Margus Meigo replied to Kristopher Rikken's comment.
1 May 2018 21:03
Margus Meigo replied to Kristopher Rikken's comment.
1 May 2018 20:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siis vahepeal räägitakse uudistes jälle vihjeid , et on "värsket verd vaja"
siia ja sinna
Nu jah
siia ja sinna
Nu jah
1 May 2018 19:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// mõtleisn kõvasti (vb), eip tea kas viimast lisakommentaari tarivs siin oli aga igaksjuhuks jätan
1 May 2018 18:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kaugele silmades liialt täiskasvanulikuse tõsidus, paratamatus reaalsusega liitumisel ja väärtuslikult tugevalt ikkagi vaimus ennast ülesehitav kuid kehalt täitsa senn ja
väga meeldivalt naturaalne
See nii hästi omas omas elemendis , et vaja oleks näha mis muud selle kõige ümber ka oleks, et teada
saada selle Nasie suurust mis selle pilguga kaasas käib
väga meeldivalt naturaalne
See nii hästi omas omas elemendis , et vaja oleks näha mis muud selle kõige ümber ka oleks, et teada
saada selle Nasie suurust mis selle pilguga kaasas käib
1 May 2018 18:30
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's photo.
Ossssaraks kus on lakk
sel täkul
sel täkul
1 May 2018 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ühe teise psotitusealla see minema pidi, kuhu läks , jäi poolikus kuskileisia igaksjuhuks:
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Anne veesaaru moodi ei pea iga Loodud onnetus minema, näiteid küll, Alari Rohtoja, Luule Viilma, Anne Veesaarel aga vedas...kodutundel... asjad on siis Päris kui seda suudetakse õnnetuse taha panna, haigus jms, arusaadav ju pärisuulistele, et neid asju ei ole
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Anne veesaaru moodi ei pea iga Loodud onnetus minema, näiteid küll, Alari Rohtoja, Luule Viilma, Anne Veesaarel aga vedas...kodutundel... asjad on siis Päris kui seda suudetakse õnnetuse taha panna, haigus jms, arusaadav ju pärisuulistele, et neid asju ei ole
1 May 2018 18:26
Margus Meigo replied to Dmitrijus Bozko's comment.
But the big data on DVD's yes, this at times, is good to order from proper archives also
Just for the basic light one for now,
last time the arcive was between 5-7 GB
Just for the basic light one for now,
last time the arcive was between 5-7 GB
1 May 2018 18:22
Margus Meigo replied to Dmitrijus Bozko's comment.
we will see if that will not come back in there
1 May 2018 18:21
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
1 May 2018 18:07
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
Do ya know this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzlMeTxVdH8
// Can Tell me the menaing of that emotion/situation in current day world context
and in the context of Global situation
and //
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzlMeTxVdH8
// Can Tell me the menaing of that emotion/situation in current day world context
and in the context of Global situation
and //
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzlMeTxVdH8
1 May 2018 18:06
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
1 May 2018 18:05
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
+ then the ques and talks about another world,s
private talk and points in the text in picture and the versions of what has what has not got
//
private talk and points in the text in picture and the versions of what has what has not got
//
1 May 2018 18:02
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
You got a spear more time to know about ( )
1 May 2018 18:01
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
am will say when it is okey and nice day :D
2
2
1 May 2018 18:00
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
So this was Emotional dimension,
based in what, can be learnt another worlds/dimensions,
more in a safe way
based in what, can be learnt another worlds/dimensions,
more in a safe way
1 May 2018 18:00
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
But we will try to direct all understanding to the end, in to good
1 May 2018 17:59
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
And this end, also has still at least two understnaings
1 May 2018 17:58
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
And in one other world, the meaning was:
So ugly/booring post, and not understood but Women makes sense out of it,
She makes it Worth,
Good to see to anyone in the end
So ugly/booring post, and not understood but Women makes sense out of it,
She makes it Worth,
Good to see to anyone in the end
1 May 2018 17:58
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
Minou James am also philosophically afraid at times, but lets try to be more in operation
1 May 2018 17:57
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
The first par,T
in God way most important, for begining the Woman
in God way most important, for begining the Woman
1 May 2018 17:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 May 2018 17:55
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
(this what you see, and wanted to know about)
1 May 2018 17:54
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
I was first try to remeber, who you are, so according tothat can exxplain more what it is ,
1 May 2018 17:54
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
But you did not understand correct way, this is alright
1 May 2018 17:54
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
Got it ?
1 May 2018 17:53
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
// I will now look a bit more in to You then will talk more on time
1 May 2018 17:53
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
1 May 2018 17:51
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
one moment, i will look in to You first
1 May 2018 17:49
Margus Meigo replied to Minou James's comment.
now you asking
1 May 2018 17:49
Margus Meigo replied to Dmitrijus Bozko's comment.
hahahah thanks for that,
I was thinking, perhaps Mafia took ower and now they force these who Really need pay,
in the end still better then millions who get for free.
Few are even agree to pay a lot.
Just to bad they cut the throat of most of the creativity and hope, lifes, culutres of many who will be main target of why the network was made first of all
I was thinking, perhaps Mafia took ower and now they force these who Really need pay,
in the end still better then millions who get for free.
Few are even agree to pay a lot.
Just to bad they cut the throat of most of the creativity and hope, lifes, culutres of many who will be main target of why the network was made first of all
1 May 2018 17:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Hmm.. kas Eestis oli jumakas..
1 May 2018 03:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Top of that SMS
vertifications system is not working,
well dor long time
Anyway ...
vertifications system is not working,
well dor long time
Anyway ...
1 May 2018 03:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nüüd nagu mingi huuori saaade kukuraadiost,see digi saaade, eriti nali on tasemel IT jutust kui fotokaamerate juurde jõutakse,
1 May 2018 03:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
need peaks süvaravi saama keseeldavad, et seda peaks nagu noramaalseks pidama, et
sellised uudised tulid terve päeva
ja see viljandi haiguse lugu ka, missellest sedasi yle riigi.. nurgataga oleks pidanud pigem vaiskelt asjad tegema, mida vaja kogu eesti lteada, avaliku elu tegelased olid nad v, avalik kohtuistung kogu riigile vaja teada v?
Tegku uudist nendest tapsjtest, javägistutest kelle ohtrid poel kättesaadud pigem, mis siin nendest teha kes kätte said, said kätte siis hea, vaiki.. ära reklaami kurjust. .eks... selliselt., nimede jjms
sellised uudised tulid terve päeva
ja see viljandi haiguse lugu ka, missellest sedasi yle riigi.. nurgataga oleks pidanud pigem vaiskelt asjad tegema, mida vaja kogu eesti lteada, avaliku elu tegelased olid nad v, avalik kohtuistung kogu riigile vaja teada v?
Tegku uudist nendest tapsjtest, javägistutest kelle ohtrid poel kättesaadud pigem, mis siin nendest teha kes kätte said, said kätte siis hea, vaiki.. ära reklaami kurjust. .eks... selliselt., nimede jjms
1 May 2018 02:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja kui värdid käskisid seda mõrvade lugu päevotsa eerisse panan et siis meelte msutuse hetkel siin musta öö laguses peale sõita... maaarust käbedad ka.. kuid yeah,,, rahava tarksues omamoodi teada mis selised asju eetri ja raadio lastakse üldse
1 May 2018 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muigugi kõik kes homme säravalt silmad lahti teeb ja ... jah... kaua Sa särad,
kui isegi varjata enam ei viitsita, et mida tehakse
siis need sammud kus mäng läbi on on ligemal ja ligemal sest kartustest ja püüdlikusest juba edasi mindud, isegi riigiraadio ja muid jaami ei hoida viitsita
kui isegi varjata enam ei viitsita, et mida tehakse
siis need sammud kus mäng läbi on on ligemal ja ligemal sest kartustest ja püüdlikusest juba edasi mindud, isegi riigiraadio ja muid jaami ei hoida viitsita
1 May 2018 02:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
peab hekistama mis jama see on
1 May 2018 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nuud lauab inisedes kudias "Kõik vastu taevast lendab"
1 May 2018 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lihtsalt "öö muusika"
aferistid ikka õtesti aru ei saa mis raadiojaam see on
aferistid ikka õtesti aru ei saa mis raadiojaam see on
1 May 2018 02:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 May 2018 02:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mis pleier vikeraadios, leht täiesti üelvõteud jälle,
otse laiv mängimis audiod süsteem likvideeritud (mis enne nime näitas sellest mis mängis)
Värvidestei hakka mainimagi ja mis käkk kokku keeratud on
pena jälle aega krutiima hakkama aaargh
_--
Ja siis mängivad mingit VIKERAADIOS, miskit saasta, et
"Palun lase must lahti , lase mul minna,... olen väsinud.."
On tüübi lopu laulu sonad
Ja siis pannakse peale USA mingi palalaika folk laul peale hoopis teises ... oeh...
miks nad ei võiksseda asja esteetilisemalt teha
otse laiv mängimis audiod süsteem likvideeritud (mis enne nime näitas sellest mis mängis)
Värvidestei hakka mainimagi ja mis käkk kokku keeratud on
pena jälle aega krutiima hakkama aaargh
_--
Ja siis mängivad mingit VIKERAADIOS, miskit saasta, et
"Palun lase must lahti , lase mul minna,... olen väsinud.."
On tüübi lopu laulu sonad
Ja siis pannakse peale USA mingi palalaika folk laul peale hoopis teises ... oeh...
miks nad ei võiksseda asja esteetilisemalt teha
1 May 2018 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on Gerly Tinn Fashion Stylist's photo.
Oh neid vabamüürlaste ja hinge võttu..
kuid jas saata lihtinimesele maakeeli tähendust ka selgitada, väga esteetiline tundub, kuid mis see on
kuid jas saata lihtinimesele maakeeli tähendust ka selgitada, väga esteetiline tundub, kuid mis see on
1 May 2018 01:56
Margus Meigo commented on Elina Netšajeva's photo.
alati nii kurb näha kui naised nii alistumise nõrkuse tasemeni viidud, et on valmis suitsust lohutust osima,,, ja kontsad ka lisavad veell..
1 May 2018 01:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ohh jumal holliaks,
asi veel hullem,
see oli kordus hommik iusaatest, see tuli täna hommikul, vaesed inimesed ,see oli päeva algustuseks pandud püha öö eel
asi veel hullem,
see oli kordus hommik iusaatest, see tuli täna hommikul, vaesed inimesed ,see oli päeva algustuseks pandud püha öö eel
1 May 2018 01:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
peab reoosale kone võtma
1 May 2018 01:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga vb see ongi nagu minig uusaasta öö iroonia / nalja saade
ja siiani olnud, ja alles nüüd sain ma aru, vaadates mis järgi tuleb,
muidugi võib ka päris eeter olla, suht veider,
kontrolliksin juba peaaegu üle, kas ikka on Eesti TV .... kui ikka on
Kas tõesti n vaja pühaööl
libestite ükstise otsas amelevate inimeste asju vaadata nu .. st seljaga ma teleka poole kuid nad seda üle maa lasevad ju, kultuuri epidoomi kanalilt , targeima konservatiivuse ja vajalikuse kanalilt,
ja siiani olnud, ja alles nüüd sain ma aru, vaadates mis järgi tuleb,
muidugi võib ka päris eeter olla, suht veider,
kontrolliksin juba peaaegu üle, kas ikka on Eesti TV .... kui ikka on
Kas tõesti n vaja pühaööl
libestite ükstise otsas amelevate inimeste asju vaadata nu .. st seljaga ma teleka poole kuid nad seda üle maa lasevad ju, kultuuri epidoomi kanalilt , targeima konservatiivuse ja vajalikuse kanalilt,
1 May 2018 01:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi siis tuli kas valus iroonia inimeste üle irivtmaiseks või... nu Soome näidend nimega " libesti " kus nad ükstisest läbi loomvad libestida üleni kaotanud, täiskasvanud mehed.
tõsimeeli muud pole teha ,ütles, et seee on "fun"
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tõsimeeli muud pole teha ,ütles, et seee on "fun"
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1 May 2018 01:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oi ERR nüüd see naine ikka päris kõvasti vastu küsis päris tervalt
kuigi nad Naistena Vaimu maailmas koos teevad näidendi mehe maailma ettemängimiseks ...
"Kui palju Sulle endale ajudele käib, et mõtled pidevalt kuidas kui palju säästa soovid"
Interviueerides naist kes on nagu kergelt erguteid võtnud :p
ja sellises energias muidu väga toredalt
nu ja siis see kes pidevalt varjatult säästmist promos, tema blogi just olid loetud ja sellest tuli välja, et just oli krahh olnud .. kuid ta pidi seda firmat ikka promoma ...
tahtsingi enne just kometeerima hakata, et nüüd lisaks järgmisele,
nad panid Investeerimise reklaami promo peale
lipsumeeste siivatused mida suunavad ja sunnivad
läbi kodu ja pere müügi proovides targalt kõlada elutargalt.. kuid need naised kahepeale nii meeldivalt hästi selle väljamängisid,
kuigi nad Naistena Vaimu maailmas koos teevad näidendi mehe maailma ettemängimiseks ...
"Kui palju Sulle endale ajudele käib, et mõtled pidevalt kuidas kui palju säästa soovid"
Interviueerides naist kes on nagu kergelt erguteid võtnud :p
ja sellises energias muidu väga toredalt
nu ja siis see kes pidevalt varjatult säästmist promos, tema blogi just olid loetud ja sellest tuli välja, et just oli krahh olnud .. kuid ta pidi seda firmat ikka promoma ...
tahtsingi enne just kometeerima hakata, et nüüd lisaks järgmisele,
nad panid Investeerimise reklaami promo peale
lipsumeeste siivatused mida suunavad ja sunnivad
läbi kodu ja pere müügi proovides targalt kõlada elutargalt.. kuid need naised kahepeale nii meeldivalt hästi selle väljamängisid,
1 May 2018 01:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi alguses peba demokraatia struktuuri sees paratamtult toimetama
30 April 2018 19:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
seda seadust demokraatilikus riigis esialgu keeruline teha, kungriigis oleks lihtsam, siis üks asutus, kes sellest aru saab ja siis arutatakse kokku kuidasülejäänud asutused arusaama panna mida nad nüüd arusaama peavad hakkama ja hakkakski viaselt pihta omastaktis
demokraatias nagu hullukari ringiratast joostakse
piltlikult, vahest päriselt ka, kuid see juba teine teema
vahest osad mingi asja vastu juba hoopis muu kui inimeste kauslikuse põhimõtte tõttu, vahest kellegi eelnõu pooolt hoopis mingi muu strateegia kui inimeste tarkuse tõttu, et see päriselt hea ja kasulik
need asjad kungriigis sedasi ei jää toimima
demokraatias nagu hullukari ringiratast joostakse
piltlikult, vahest päriselt ka, kuid see juba teine teema
vahest osad mingi asja vastu juba hoopis muu kui inimeste kauslikuse põhimõtte tõttu, vahest kellegi eelnõu pooolt hoopis mingi muu strateegia kui inimeste tarkuse tõttu, et see päriselt hea ja kasulik
need asjad kungriigis sedasi ei jää toimima
30 April 2018 19:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see "sonimine"
saab olema eriti muigega, arvestades kui täpselt ja vajalikud kogused üle mille oleks palju keskmiselt paljudele ja alla mille võib vahest olla vähe, ka paljudele
ja kellel üle jääb sel jääb, nu mis siis
saab olema eriti muigega, arvestades kui täpselt ja vajalikud kogused üle mille oleks palju keskmiselt paljudele ja alla mille võib vahest olla vähe, ka paljudele
ja kellel üle jääb sel jääb, nu mis siis
30 April 2018 19:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See muidugi ajast-ees, kuid kunagi lähisajal saadakse aru KUI odav, soodne, kasulik hea ja lihtne ning puhas, ohutu vahend võrreldes alternatiiviga oleks järgmine lahedus tänava :
(vallavaestele tasuta, see ei maksaks midagi riigile, eriti arvestades summasi mis säästetakse kuna see lõpuks joomise välja sööb, sest need asjad pikka aega koos ei toimi kui sotsiaal kontroll kukil veel kes psühedeelikumi aktiviseerib, sest need hinge ravimid mille läbi saab hingele koputada, elavndatud teadvusele, teised ained aga tuimestavad või rahustavad lihtsalt. ilma arusaama suurendamise võimalseta selles mastaabis)
Retsept 2 nädala peale :
1/4 jagatud tava kogus (25 kuni 30 ug) ravimit LSD nädalas kaks korda.
+ 0.5 g kanepit
pool grammi energeetilist heade mõtete kanepit eelneva efekti elavndamiseks / integreermiseks / rahustamiseks / rakendamiseks .
Soovitav oleks, et inimesed ise oma ravimi järgi käiks nagu ka raha järgi käiakse automaadis ... kui ravimit välja ei lunasta pikka aega ,siis võib see lausa hakata küsimusi tekitama, ravimeid VÕIB ka edasi and,a see pole keelatud (sest nii väikesed kogused, isegi palju kokku kogudes, on raske kahju tekitada rohkem kui meelega alkoholiga proovides valesti tarbida. Või muud asja tehes, kus meelega üritatakse. Kuid asja tuvalisuseks võiks veel see 20,30 ug'd olla ühe ploomi suuruses hästi söödavas ohutus kapslis, küpsises vms, et neid ka ei oleks nii lihtne, sada tükki korraga ärasüüa. Kui keegi neid ärima/koguma proovib hakata. Tasuta anda edasi võib aga kes raha eest müümisega vahele jääb, siis traf 15 eurot kohe sots rahast tuleb allapoole elatuspiiiri maha. )
Võib täitsa võimalik olla, et kui teistsorti liiki inimesed avastatakse, ja ilmselgelt mingi muu aine aitab paremini ja kohe vaba pahasti alasti see teeb.. siis saab muid asju ka proovida, arguteid ja muud maagiat kuid kuna praegu enamusele sund depresant peale pandud alkohol, mida seltskond ümber peale surub, suurele hulgale eestlastele niii eluolukorraga kui kaaslaste ja ebavalgustavate põhikanalite valikutega ning teemade, käitumistega juhtimistes kus samal ajal inimestele eluolulistematele küsiustele vastuseid eip anta..
kohe kui oma rahad kätte saame ühtesi või teisi pidi siis selliseid projekte mitmes vallas käima paneme tõestamaks ,et see toimib, teeme erladi pangakaarid süsteemi ka veel selletabis kuidagi.. mõtleme välja, kõikidele poodidele maksame lisaraha kes nende teatud soti pangakaartidega ainult teatud sorti kaupe käbi EI lase.
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Kuidagi poodide motiveerimise plaani veel mõelda siin
selle toob selgusen asiis vaim pleae kui vaja , ku iseda siis tegema hakata
(vallavaestele tasuta, see ei maksaks midagi riigile, eriti arvestades summasi mis säästetakse kuna see lõpuks joomise välja sööb, sest need asjad pikka aega koos ei toimi kui sotsiaal kontroll kukil veel kes psühedeelikumi aktiviseerib, sest need hinge ravimid mille läbi saab hingele koputada, elavndatud teadvusele, teised ained aga tuimestavad või rahustavad lihtsalt. ilma arusaama suurendamise võimalseta selles mastaabis)
Retsept 2 nädala peale :
1/4 jagatud tava kogus (25 kuni 30 ug) ravimit LSD nädalas kaks korda.
+ 0.5 g kanepit
pool grammi energeetilist heade mõtete kanepit eelneva efekti elavndamiseks / integreermiseks / rahustamiseks / rakendamiseks .
Soovitav oleks, et inimesed ise oma ravimi järgi käiks nagu ka raha järgi käiakse automaadis ... kui ravimit välja ei lunasta pikka aega ,siis võib see lausa hakata küsimusi tekitama, ravimeid VÕIB ka edasi and,a see pole keelatud (sest nii väikesed kogused, isegi palju kokku kogudes, on raske kahju tekitada rohkem kui meelega alkoholiga proovides valesti tarbida. Või muud asja tehes, kus meelega üritatakse. Kuid asja tuvalisuseks võiks veel see 20,30 ug'd olla ühe ploomi suuruses hästi söödavas ohutus kapslis, küpsises vms, et neid ka ei oleks nii lihtne, sada tükki korraga ärasüüa. Kui keegi neid ärima/koguma proovib hakata. Tasuta anda edasi võib aga kes raha eest müümisega vahele jääb, siis traf 15 eurot kohe sots rahast tuleb allapoole elatuspiiiri maha. )
Võib täitsa võimalik olla, et kui teistsorti liiki inimesed avastatakse, ja ilmselgelt mingi muu aine aitab paremini ja kohe vaba pahasti alasti see teeb.. siis saab muid asju ka proovida, arguteid ja muud maagiat kuid kuna praegu enamusele sund depresant peale pandud alkohol, mida seltskond ümber peale surub, suurele hulgale eestlastele niii eluolukorraga kui kaaslaste ja ebavalgustavate põhikanalite valikutega ning teemade, käitumistega juhtimistes kus samal ajal inimestele eluolulistematele küsiustele vastuseid eip anta..
kohe kui oma rahad kätte saame ühtesi või teisi pidi siis selliseid projekte mitmes vallas käima paneme tõestamaks ,et see toimib, teeme erladi pangakaarid süsteemi ka veel selletabis kuidagi.. mõtleme välja, kõikidele poodidele maksame lisaraha kes nende teatud soti pangakaartidega ainult teatud sorti kaupe käbi EI lase.
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Kuidagi poodide motiveerimise plaani veel mõelda siin
selle toob selgusen asiis vaim pleae kui vaja , ku iseda siis tegema hakata
30 April 2018 19:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mul võib valentiinid olla küll
30 April 2018 19:02
Margus Meigo commented on Logan Alexander's post.
Looks too posessed for natives
30 April 2018 15:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Anime Shaman. Cyber, Nature, Japan Manga, Matrix, Messianic
(the Words is About them & püsical world descryption)
Estonia version about the Dark one who started to imitate humans and later find ways to come in to real humens top of that first cuttingd down varius things one by one that let access, as some Estoninasmart was giving good
And if that is just example of imitation of what it was, can you imagine what was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhjPGGSuuNMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhjPGGSuuNM
30 April 2018 15:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mõelda kui hästi siis on , oleks , kui ma valesti arusain, saaksin
30 April 2018 15:10
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kindlastiei tasu takerduda vaenlaste avaliku plämasse mida aeg-aja-t teiste takerdamaiseks õhku panevad, et "Meedia peab olema kallutamatu ja pooli võtmata ja ideoloogitu ja ..."
Vastupidi,
AINUKE mõte, kui ISMAAALINE inimene teeb midagi, tööd, meediat ,teenust, elutööd, , oma KODUMAA heaks, siis on KINDEL mille suunalised uudised
ja KÕIK õige meedia ainult lõpuks läbilastakse kindlates kanalites ja mis moodi ülejäänut eksitajaid koheldakse, oma eksitavate artiklite ja saadetega (esiteks neile tagatausta selgitus ja uuring kirjutada elementaarse infopangana IGA looga põhipunktide osas, lopuks see paas ise automaatselt liitub külge, laieneb, täieneb, areneb, multidimensionaalistub ja hakatakse kasutama ka kohustuslikult muude uudiste poolt kui tahavad ausa suunalised olla(sest saab teha sisse kanali, kanalite sisse, kus sees on ka nende enda lugejate ERI versioon, kuid versioon peab olema info töötluseks inimestele kellel PÄRISELT meeldib uudistest ja alajoost, seosetest arusaada ))
kuid ainuõige mõttega meedia on see kes ei tegele valetmaisega ,et ta erapooletut pilti edastada proovi, vaid fakte ainult...
Vastupidi,
AINUKE mõte, kui ISMAAALINE inimene teeb midagi, tööd, meediat ,teenust, elutööd, , oma KODUMAA heaks, siis on KINDEL mille suunalised uudised
ja KÕIK õige meedia ainult lõpuks läbilastakse kindlates kanalites ja mis moodi ülejäänut eksitajaid koheldakse, oma eksitavate artiklite ja saadetega (esiteks neile tagatausta selgitus ja uuring kirjutada elementaarse infopangana IGA looga põhipunktide osas, lopuks see paas ise automaatselt liitub külge, laieneb, täieneb, areneb, multidimensionaalistub ja hakatakse kasutama ka kohustuslikult muude uudiste poolt kui tahavad ausa suunalised olla(sest saab teha sisse kanali, kanalite sisse, kus sees on ka nende enda lugejate ERI versioon, kuid versioon peab olema info töötluseks inimestele kellel PÄRISELT meeldib uudistest ja alajoost, seosetest arusaada ))
kuid ainuõige mõttega meedia on see kes ei tegele valetmaisega ,et ta erapooletut pilti edastada proovi, vaid fakte ainult...
30 April 2018 15:09
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Alguses juba lootsin, et päris meedia Luik, Hans H. Luik
KUid eks kokku tuleb hoida, parema eesti nimel
KUid eks kokku tuleb hoida, parema eesti nimel
30 April 2018 15:03
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aa ju seda mõeldi:
"Isamaa ja Res Publica Liit Pressiteade 30.08.17. Mart Luik liitub IRLi nimekirjaga. Savisaare valimisnimekirjaga liitumise tõttu valimisliidu Tegus Tallinn tegevjuhi kohalt tagasi astunud Mart Luik liitub IRLi nimekirjaga. „Olen otsustanud oma poliitilise tahte ellu viia IRLi nimekirjas kandideerides"
https://irl.ee/blog/2017/08/30/pressiteade-mart-luik-liitub-irli-nimekirjaga/
"Isamaa ja Res Publica Liit Pressiteade 30.08.17. Mart Luik liitub IRLi nimekirjaga. Savisaare valimisnimekirjaga liitumise tõttu valimisliidu Tegus Tallinn tegevjuhi kohalt tagasi astunud Mart Luik liitub IRLi nimekirjaga. „Olen otsustanud oma poliitilise tahte ellu viia IRLi nimekirjas kandideerides"
https://irl.ee/blog/2017/08/30/pressiteade-mart-luik-liitub-irli-nimekirjaga/
https://irl.ee/blog/2017/08/30/pressiteade-mart-luik-liitub-irli-nimekirjaga/
30 April 2018 15:01
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Imre Väin eip ikkagi sõjavägi, soendasid ja hoidsid pinget
30 April 2018 14:56
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kuldsete väärtuste kõrgideaalide kandjad
ja Malle on äärmiselt ilusalt julge kultuuriliselt ja Ülle puht geenius ka kultuuriliselt.
Et ei hakka niisama kohe libusmeestele andma ideid mis robotid üle pea kasvataks
ja Malle on äärmiselt ilusalt julge kultuuriliselt ja Ülle puht geenius ka kultuuriliselt.
Et ei hakka niisama kohe libusmeestele andma ideid mis robotid üle pea kasvataks
30 April 2018 14:55
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Oh, ais pole nii paha, aga ikkagi:
""10 kuud valimisteni. Tuleb keskenduda sellele, et Isamaa võimalikult hea tulemuse teeks,"
Et see siis ERR käru, et seda asja edasi uudistesse pani, et mis selle mõte on ?
KAs Sa Mart Luik andsid siis nõusoleku sellise uudise väljaandmiseks mida raadio uudistes kommenteeritakse selle slooganiga,
see pole ju MIDAGI, mittemidagi millest saaks INIMESED , KES usaldanud Sind NENDE häält , nende häälest piltkujundit tegema, et siis mis piltkujund see on sellest mida IsamaaLiit / IRL esindab ??
Nii olulise vimaste karvade osas, nii tähtsatel erakondadel, viimane mis meil on, ei tohi niisama sõnu raisata ega lasta ka meedial niiisama sedais eetriagea raisata.
Lauseks mida jagatakse peab olema ikka mingi asi mis inimajaudega ühildub
""10 kuud valimisteni. Tuleb keskenduda sellele, et Isamaa võimalikult hea tulemuse teeks,"
Et see siis ERR käru, et seda asja edasi uudistesse pani, et mis selle mõte on ?
KAs Sa Mart Luik andsid siis nõusoleku sellise uudise väljaandmiseks mida raadio uudistes kommenteeritakse selle slooganiga,
see pole ju MIDAGI, mittemidagi millest saaks INIMESED , KES usaldanud Sind NENDE häält , nende häälest piltkujundit tegema, et siis mis piltkujund see on sellest mida IsamaaLiit / IRL esindab ??
Nii olulise vimaste karvade osas, nii tähtsatel erakondadel, viimane mis meil on, ei tohi niisama sõnu raisata ega lasta ka meedial niiisama sedais eetriagea raisata.
Lauseks mida jagatakse peab olema ikka mingi asi mis inimajaudega ühildub
30 April 2018 14:34
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// ma pole kindel, kas asjad nii hullultpahad on, kahjuks ei ole nende hingeelusi mulle mõni eestlane veel lahtiseletanud ja pole silma palju jäänud,
kohe pildipealt hingeinfot ei saa kogu hea ja muu osas
kuid ikka meie poolne kuid..
kohe pildipealt hingeinfot ei saa kogu hea ja muu osas
kuid ikka meie poolne kuid..
30 April 2018 14:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tõnis Möldre 12:54
" Tõesti, nagu kirp! No näete, kõige värskem näide, et parteidel pole mingit ilmavaadet. KE värbas IRL-i liikmest inimese KE juhitava Tallinna linnavolikogu aseesimeheks, varsti hakkas see ennast kratsima ja kargas teise kannikaga tööle riigikogu IRL-i nõunikuna ka veel. Tule, taevas appi! "
" Tõesti, nagu kirp! No näete, kõige värskem näide, et parteidel pole mingit ilmavaadet. KE värbas IRL-i liikmest inimese KE juhitava Tallinna linnavolikogu aseesimeheks, varsti hakkas see ennast kratsima ja kargas teise kannikaga tööle riigikogu IRL-i nõunikuna ka veel. Tule, taevas appi! "
30 April 2018 14:29
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Seda saab igaüksaru ,et kasulik on ülikoolil suunata teadusharusi mis meie kultuurile, rahvale ja selle keele ning armastuse arusaama igavesele kestmisele läbi aegade kaasa aitab ja see on see mida RIIGIL vaja ka eelkõige, et oma olemust säilitada,
ja siis piitsaga peksta äri ajama ka KÕIK alad... nu kamoon..
Teadud alad ILMA igasuguse köhimiseta aegade lõpuni PEAVAD olema tasuta ja täielikult rahastatud ja kaitstud absoluutsel tipp tasemel,
eriti meie Riigis, kus see üks ainukesi südameid mis Riiki ku isellist õigustada saab välismaa ees, kui küsitakse, et mis te siin ka teete, kus on teie riik ja olemus.. mis toodang, mis sõjavägi, mis majandus..
Siis saame öelda, me teeme oma asja siin:
Million lehte folki
mille peal loome uusi sensioonilisi arusaame ja tunnetusi mida saab kanda edasi nagu vanas Simpleli reklaamis kus lõhn kadus telefonist üle.
Äriosakond peab eraldi olema, kes teadlaste ideede ja potensiaale muuamaailmaifoga seob ja kogumid teadlastele pakuvad, koos riigi üle vaatega, et mida maailm arvas mida saaks nende teadusuunaga teha ja kas neil sellesttolku või aretavad oma suunda edasi...
või saavavd vahepeal paar ärivajadust rahuldada kerge näpuliigutusega ja edasi oa asja arendada,
Olgu see oma keele, loodusteaduste, inimteaduste ja maailmaruumi tunnetuste tundma õppoimine
ja inimestest üleüldse arusaamine, kõrgemal tasemel ku iMsokva
ja siis piitsaga peksta äri ajama ka KÕIK alad... nu kamoon..
Teadud alad ILMA igasuguse köhimiseta aegade lõpuni PEAVAD olema tasuta ja täielikult rahastatud ja kaitstud absoluutsel tipp tasemel,
eriti meie Riigis, kus see üks ainukesi südameid mis Riiki ku isellist õigustada saab välismaa ees, kui küsitakse, et mis te siin ka teete, kus on teie riik ja olemus.. mis toodang, mis sõjavägi, mis majandus..
Siis saame öelda, me teeme oma asja siin:
Million lehte folki
mille peal loome uusi sensioonilisi arusaame ja tunnetusi mida saab kanda edasi nagu vanas Simpleli reklaamis kus lõhn kadus telefonist üle.
Äriosakond peab eraldi olema, kes teadlaste ideede ja potensiaale muuamaailmaifoga seob ja kogumid teadlastele pakuvad, koos riigi üle vaatega, et mida maailm arvas mida saaks nende teadusuunaga teha ja kas neil sellesttolku või aretavad oma suunda edasi...
või saavavd vahepeal paar ärivajadust rahuldada kerge näpuliigutusega ja edasi oa asja arendada,
Olgu see oma keele, loodusteaduste, inimteaduste ja maailmaruumi tunnetuste tundma õppoimine
ja inimestest üleüldse arusaamine, kõrgemal tasemel ku iMsokva
30 April 2018 14:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Siis nad pidid juurde lisama, et "see lugu jätab suure osa rahvast külmaks"
Nu ise räägivad sellest väga ärritunult mitukorda uuesti üles tuues :D
Nu ise räägivad sellest väga ärritunult mitukorda uuesti üles tuues :D
30 April 2018 13:53
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ooeh kuidasseda lihtsat olulist asja öelda selle maagia osas mis nad teevad..
Nu isegi Tarmo Soomere ütles tänases Pealinnas (Eesti suurim ajaleht) mis mingil põhjusel Türile välja jõuab hommikuks, et :
"teadlane on diagnoos, mitte amet"
kuidas see olukorraga seotud on pole täpseltteada, kuid ju tema kaasinimsed ka arusaavad, et LIBERAALID on ÄRIMEHED
enamuses, kommunistid on ka ärimehed ja liberaalid ja nad armastavad kasutada demokraatiat ja demogoogiat,
ja nad VÄGA ründavad kui keegi nende platformides või nähtavas kohas korra paar aastaski teeb seda mida nad pidevalt teevad. Ühes suunas.
Ja siis nimetavad selle vastupidiseks asjaks nagu nad ründaks midagi muud.
Kuid küll me need reporterid naelutame veel vastust adndma ,kuidas kes ja miks nad on
Nu isegi Tarmo Soomere ütles tänases Pealinnas (Eesti suurim ajaleht) mis mingil põhjusel Türile välja jõuab hommikuks, et :
"teadlane on diagnoos, mitte amet"
kuidas see olukorraga seotud on pole täpseltteada, kuid ju tema kaasinimsed ka arusaavad, et LIBERAALID on ÄRIMEHED
enamuses, kommunistid on ka ärimehed ja liberaalid ja nad armastavad kasutada demokraatiat ja demogoogiat,
ja nad VÄGA ründavad kui keegi nende platformides või nähtavas kohas korra paar aastaski teeb seda mida nad pidevalt teevad. Ühes suunas.
Ja siis nimetavad selle vastupidiseks asjaks nagu nad ründaks midagi muud.
Kuid küll me need reporterid naelutame veel vastust adndma ,kuidas kes ja miks nad on
30 April 2018 13:46
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aga jah keervaad peapale teema,
ja siis jätvad mulje nagu PÄRIS teaduse inimesed on liberaalid
ja need kes libedalt äri ajada tahavad SUNDIDA ülikoole panema, tegema, ähvardusel sugeda osakonnad mis ei allu nende äritegevusele (sulgedes osakonnad mis võõrvõimule kahjulikud või mis kofdumaale liialt kauslikud meile võimu ja iseseisvust andes)
ja siis jätvad mulje nagu PÄRIS teaduse inimesed on liberaalid
ja need kes libedalt äri ajada tahavad SUNDIDA ülikoole panema, tegema, ähvardusel sugeda osakonnad mis ei allu nende äritegevusele (sulgedes osakonnad mis võõrvõimule kahjulikud või mis kofdumaale liialt kauslikud meile võimu ja iseseisvust andes)
30 April 2018 13:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nagu maarusain, siis LIBERAALSUS on see, et TEADUS
ÄRIKS
SUNNITAKSE pöörama
ja siis need kukuraadio ülikoolid, suruvad sellist utoopiat, vastupidi , usutva muheda sujuvusega, et Kadri nagu oleks liberaal
ja et peab anda Sirbis "teisele poolele kasõnamitte lieraaalidele, muidu jääb mulje, et sirp on liberaalne.. ei tahaks uskuda et liberaal propakanda aga nagu muje jääb kui nüüd selliseks see teema jääb.."
Kusjuures, see Sirbi lugu,
JUST oli JUlge asi sirbis,
(mille eellugu, isegi Kukuraadio mälisejad pole suutnud, suvatsenud lugeda, ja nad "Mõtlevast raadiost")
// iroonia selles, et sirp ju TEGELIKU liberalasue-kommiunismi-sellesamasüstemi osa mis viisnurk milles kuku osaliselt pidevalt kaasa töötab..... omakeskusside ja riigi kallal ilkumistega
ÄRIKS
SUNNITAKSE pöörama
ja siis need kukuraadio ülikoolid, suruvad sellist utoopiat, vastupidi , usutva muheda sujuvusega, et Kadri nagu oleks liberaal
ja et peab anda Sirbis "teisele poolele kasõnamitte lieraaalidele, muidu jääb mulje, et sirp on liberaalne.. ei tahaks uskuda et liberaal propakanda aga nagu muje jääb kui nüüd selliseks see teema jääb.."
Kusjuures, see Sirbi lugu,
JUST oli JUlge asi sirbis,
(mille eellugu, isegi Kukuraadio mälisejad pole suutnud, suvatsenud lugeda, ja nad "Mõtlevast raadiost")
// iroonia selles, et sirp ju TEGELIKU liberalasue-kommiunismi-sellesamasüstemi osa mis viisnurk milles kuku osaliselt pidevalt kaasa töötab..... omakeskusside ja riigi kallal ilkumistega
30 April 2018 13:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ainukemõte ÜLDSE ojn ajakirjandusel suures plaanis,
kui taeesmärk on rahvast teatud õiges suunas kujundada, suunata , suundaarendada ja väärsuudadest eemale liikuda, väärast eralduda
ja seda proovida varjama hakata.. jasiis solvuda, et keegi jugeb nüüd ülikooli tõed väljatuua..
kui taeesmärk on rahvast teatud õiges suunas kujundada, suunata , suundaarendada ja väärsuudadest eemale liikuda, väärast eralduda
ja seda proovida varjama hakata.. jasiis solvuda, et keegi jugeb nüüd ülikooli tõed väljatuua..
30 April 2018 13:30
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30 April 2018 11:20
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naabrimehel pisar silmas :p
30 April 2018 10:35
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et võtame naljaga mis ikka enneaegu nutta
30 April 2018 10:35
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Naabrimees rahusta,s et see oli kella 10 nene äratus, et joodikuid poodi kutsuda
30 April 2018 10:35
Margus Meigo commented on Maria Belovas's post.
Last week when try to re-activate this, they failed to send me an SMS vertification,
tested on two different numbers in different services.
tested on two different numbers in different services.
30 April 2018 10:32
Margus Meigo commented on Maria Belovas's photo.
Sure
ja soovitavalt sokid jalga kui lakkpõrand!
ja soovitavalt sokid jalga kui lakkpõrand!
30 April 2018 10:31
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siiani kestab
30 April 2018 10:22
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Õpe oli seekord
(vist)
(vist)
30 April 2018 10:21
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Ja mis pahasi tegusi rklamitakse hommikul üle riigi, rahvale hullumeelsed või??30 April 2018 08:00
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(ordi pilvedest, kaugemale kellegil plaan reisida?)
// Nende meeste tarkuste ajakiri, üle saja aasta vanune, pandi ka ju kinni, sest raha polnud selle töös hoimiseks, ... peale 90ndaid aegu !!! Maailma vaneim selline ajakiri ..30 April 2018 07:58
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ja ega seda veel mõtleme, mida nad väljapool seda Reaalselt tõestanud , / reisinud on30 April 2018 07:58
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see oelks nagu võrdleks mingit piiriala Oorti pilvega30 April 2018 07:57
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nagu see pole üldse küismus, suuruses30 April 2018 07:57
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EKRE võrgust ei räägi Eestlaste süüst ja isegi mitte Helme perekonna vastu, Mõisnikute, härrade ja uute riidekaltsude,
Vaid,
Ideoloogilist, virtuaalset kuvandit, mida ol ivaja tekitada, MINGI Välise suurtemate Mängude tarvis, mis MEIE meelsusest Suurema Maailma plaaniga kui meie Esialgne Samm, (nende arvates)
Kuid Kristlik Eesti võtab ju mitu Esoteerilsit ja vaimsed maailmad ka30 April 2018 07:57
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-cgqOj6BGE&t=253s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-cgqOj6BGE&t=253s
30 April 2018 07:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Naine Kes 70 ndate ALGUSES JUHTIV KÜBERNEETIKA !!! INSENER !!! juba... ja JÄTKUSUUTLIKULT; PIDEVALT , TIPPUDES LIIKUDES, tippude ideedega kokku puutudes, kuni tänaseni,
ja siis kujuta ette, selline mees läheb temaga rääkima, kes ei tea mis on PILVE TEENUS
Naisel nii piinlik oli, et Malle Pärnaliku Daamilikusega vabandas viisakalt ennast tagandades meest välja, ikkagi saate juht ja mõtlevate inimeste raadiojaam ju.
ja siis kujuta ette, selline mees läheb temaga rääkima, kes ei tea mis on PILVE TEENUS
Naisel nii piinlik oli, et Malle Pärnaliku Daamilikusega vabandas viisakalt ennast tagandades meest välja, ikkagi saate juht ja mõtlevate inimeste raadiojaam ju.
30 April 2018 07:23
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ja palun seda MITTTE keeeleiselt rututa parandam
30 April 2018 06:18
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example just, if she would JuMp up in random promoted contacts,
// mnjaaaa vähe on Tegelikult mida Arvuti tha ei saaks, mida iniene kõsib õigesti,
Programmi väljavahetmaisega kui see ei ühti seadustega
Ja seduste väljavhetamine kui see ei ühti õigustega
ja õiguste uuendmaisega kui need on maas Austusest
ja jaasutse ülestooomine kui see on liialt maha surutud
// mnjaaaa vähe on Tegelikult mida Arvuti tha ei saaks, mida iniene kõsib õigesti,
Programmi väljavahetmaisega kui see ei ühti seadustega
Ja seduste väljavhetamine kui see ei ühti õigustega
ja õiguste uuendmaisega kui need on maas Austusest
ja jaasutse ülestooomine kui see on liialt maha surutud
30 April 2018 06:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Why would Facebook put
me , on my
profile, near another Women extra,
when they see someone interesting human is interested-interacting with
So the FB & Web peaks, if they become Pro love, Show
Info that helps Man About THIS WOMEN on what profile he was last or most
me , on my
profile, near another Women extra,
when they see someone interesting human is interested-interacting with
So the FB & Web peaks, if they become Pro love, Show
Info that helps Man About THIS WOMEN on what profile he was last or most
30 April 2018 06:13
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(( // Armeenlase loo alusest saab olla Kõrgest Emotsioonist krgesse teadvusesse jääädes madalale rhaulikult laskudes,30 April 2018 06:10
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(vb, kuni kõik korras )30 April 2018 06:09
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ja maailmas ka30 April 2018 06:09
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ja need kes selle Alatu uudise tegid, sellest Armeenlasest,
Et Armeenia rahvale
sellist Plekki lasti peale panna
Läbi armeenlase, meie meedias, lugesime ette kollast uudist,
Mõlevate inimeste Raadio Tipp Tarkuse Võrgustikus,
ERR 'is & Kukuraadios
Et miks Sellist asja meie MEIE MEEDIAs tehakse ?
Ja siis lisavad lõppu, et "Ta kartis Naisi"
Üldse nagu veel nii mitmes astmes, paha tehes ja alatut vastikust, mida see rahvameelde viska, sellist soppa eetrisse pannes,
Kui juhtub, siis juhtub, korra keegi läheb hulluks, see on seaduspärasus hullumajas30 April 2018 06:08
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avalikku alandust/avaldust (võälja pressimist/trikitamist/ähvardamist varjatult)30 April 2018 06:04
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nad nii peened, et vabandavad välja, et see on Disain, reklaam vms
Tingimus, mitte aga "troll"
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Ja omakorda saab pidevalt näidata veel selgelt mõistlikumaid ka,
kuid nad suvaliselt vast ilma algse mõtteta, panevad "juhuslikku" sisse, et süsteem koos püsiks,
Aga ega sellest piisa ju
(üldse üks süsteemi jutt käib pidevalt ... Hippide Revolutsiooni teatrietenduses, ROmaanis, Hulluarstidest kuni kukuraadio targeima tehnoloogianaise jutulõpp fookus kuhu teda sunniti... avalikku alandust/avalf)30 April 2018 06:03
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Group: Kristlased
mingi süsteem i
jutt käib pidevalt,
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Ja meelde tuletamine nagu afid oleks inimesed
Kuigi kui, mis õigus meil oma lõbuks teisi sildistada,
Või ehk on, sedasi õigus inimesel Jumalalt loomi tundma õppida ja eksimust õppida ja siis õigel ajal mõlemas oma sammu edasi astudes,
mitmes eri arengus,
korrrapäraselt suures osas enamuses edasi ja kindlalt kogu liikumises suures plaanis
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Ja nagu piibelgi on ühe lause , iga sõna kaupagi, vahest liialt suur tripp
lugeda, päriselt tajudes mis teema on,
selles ja sellest mõledud,
mõeldud,
Njeha, vb
// Mingi uudis tuli ,et nüüd peab USA Trollidele alluma hakkama30 April 2018 06:00
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aus30 April 2018 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to Elver Loho's comment.
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Elver Loho Siis täiesti sobib, hea, et oma piire tead ja õpid.
Muidugi kui näen midagi Sinuga seotult, mis mind segab siis ma teen ise nii kuidas vaja ja tarvis kui siis Sa targem vähemasti, mitte üle reageerida ning endale ülearu muresi tekitada sellega millest aru ei saa.
(ahjaa, ja kui ausalt millegist arusaada soovid, siis seda ikka, alati võib kenasti küsida KENASTI )
Mul tekis samas ka omamoodi sümpaatia ja kahju tunne (viimane, enne) kolades netis ja vaadates kust tulnud ja mida teinud, mõtelnud.
(Ahja, kuna tean mis sõna "skiso" tähendus Tegelikult on, rohkem kui need kes seda sõna kasutavad, siis see osa ei tundu solvav mulle (Su enda osas, loodan, et Sa seda ka järjekordse solvanguna ei mõelnud)
, vihje; see sama kui propakanda inimesed kogu punti vastassuunalisi aineid seadusandluses "nakrotisiks" nimetavad, et kaotada piir psühhedeelia ja muude ainete tarkuste vahel, et läbi teiste pahade head keelata ja selle arusaam inimeste peadest likvideerida, sama on ka Skiso asjadega, kus on Väga suur hulk erinevaid asju, sama sildi all, ehk õpid seda kunagi, mina songleerin node asjadega lihtsalt, kuni minu ajalaevani.. : )
Ehk õpid teinekord sellest, et ei ole vaja igatühte saata kuhu pole vaja, tuleb viisakamalt rääkida, mõelda enne kui öelda ja eriti mitte öelda ärritavaid asju inimeste kohta keda ise skisoks pead, me jätame naguinii 90% ütlemata mida veel tegelikult teeme pikalt, pikalt.
Kuid nüüd saab rahulikult peale teha lõpuks, kaua ma ikka Su kohta infot kogun30 April 2018 02:23
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Ära fantaseeri (see ahistuse sõnum oli Sul pool seksuaalse tooniga tausta arvestades, mustadel vaimudel on need asjad tumeda iha alatooniga, et oma elu põnevaks kütta),
me ei tegele ahistamisega, vaid karistamise ja korrale kutsumise ja hoiatamiste ning õpetustega.
Eelkõige Hinge haridusega.
Teen seda nii ja kuidas tarvis, et Nende olemustpaljastada, kes seda väärivad, st
(Nende ohvrid või nemad ise)
Tootmisega me pole isegi alustanud mitte, see oli lihtsalt näide mis moodi tulevikus peale sõidame, algnäide, lihtne, mõne minutiline
Reaalne elu ja kogemus ja paljastused saavad palju tõsisemad olema kui sa aga Õigusele & Seadusele alluma õpid, siis võtame sama leebelt, ja tõsiselt päris võlukunsti ja sellega seotut, mida Sa skeptikuna vist eriti lugenud pole, et nu jah.. ühesõnaga ää muretse liialt loho, me oleme PÄRIS kanepi poolsed
Kui tead mis see tähendab, saad aru, kuidas ja mida teeme. Et Su hinge päästa29 April 2018 23:51
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Elver Loho Vastupidi Lohoo vastupidi,
Suvalist ma ei tooda,
Laike ma ei kogu, kogun arhiive, seda mida tarvis, et nende olemus paljastada, selle piires kuidas ja mismoodi on turvaline, õige ja aus,
Mina saan paari lihtsa moodusega oma isiksust muuta, aga kas Sina ka, üldse tead, et see võimalik on ?
Mis paska Su kohta toodetud on ?
Sa peaks olema õnnelik, et Sinuga seotud ütlused selgemini inimesteni tuuakse.
"Hale könn" oli päris hea osa lõpus :p (vaatame kui kohtume ka, et siis need sõnad Sul meeles on, ega me aint internetis mälestusi tee)29 April 2018 23:49
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Wilfred Parmas ma tean, ja mis me temaga peale hakkame,
vaata ainuüksi neid ajakirjanduse sõnavõtte:
http://elver-loho.blogspot.com.ee/2018/04/elver-loho-meelsus-sonavotud-ja.html
Muidugi "vittus" pole õige ütlus selle kohta,
Sest siis kui on Vittus, on asjad hästi,
Siin on asjad aga vitust kaugelhttp://elver-loho.blogspot.com.ee/2018/04/elver-loho-meelsus-sonavotud-ja.html
29 April 2018 23:03
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Siia saaks üles panna,
kas see: http://elver-loho.blogspot.com.ee/2018/04/elver-loho-kanepi-legaliseeriate_29.html
alustuseks sobib?http://elver-loho.blogspot.com.ee/2018/04/elver-loho-kanepi-legaliseeriate_29.html
29 April 2018 18:57
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(kui väljendad, et sa Kanepi komuuni imago pärast muretsed, siis see arvestatav, oluline arguMent)29 April 2018 18:44
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(lihtsalt ütlen Sulle, et oleks Sa normaalse inimese moodi soovitanud, küsinud, parandanud, loomulikult oleks heameelega korrektuure teinud sõnumis, ja reaalsust, sõnumit lahtikodeeritumalt, lihtsalt tajutavamaks teinud ...
Kuid heameelega, teeks ühe debati, väikse bättly, üskteise paremaks tundma õppimiseks,
ja kuna mu plaanid ja seadused on plaanis, siia jääma, siis mõistlik oleks üksteise UUTE arusaamadega kurssi viia, mida üksteised teineteise osas veel ei tea, ei mõista, vb mida pole arvestanud, ... ja selle teksti mõte oleks, et see võimalus ka rahvale >Sul ennast tutvustada, parandada, promoda, ja selgitada kasvõi ühes reaalsuses, et "narkarid" on sellised nagu Sina, kes soovivad "narkotsi panna" aga et siis sellised nagu Mina, Margus, nad pole enamasti, et saaksid siis aidata ka seda selgitada, pärast paneks tekstid, debatid arusaadavalt netti kättesaadavaks...
hea plaan ju ? Eriti kui maine pärast muretsed, et mida ühed ja teised arvavad siin ja seostavad.
Edaspidi uuele viadejale, mahategijale, kiusajale saad saata selle vestluse logi, mis tekitame, ja ütled, et nad loeks selle läbi enne, kus sinu arusaamad lahatud on, ja siis tleks rääkima,
muidugi minu kasu ka sees, ma läbi teiste vaimude saan enda vaimusünnitusi kirjakeele sarnasesse keelde, mida targematega, seda paremasse kirja enamasti tirida.. ehk sis võtan endale veel kirja keele parandaja ka punti ..
Soovitav olukord oleks nii, et Video feed jookseb või audio ja teksti kirjutame siis lõpp arusaamad ,olulisemad asjad, mis oleks kirjas, silmeees, mida teine arvestama/lahkama peaks
Sessiooon võtaks vast ainult paar tundi aega,
kogu teksti töötlemise, videod / blogid jms, võin selle oma peale võtta, et see teha, teen algust siin suts juba:29 April 2018 18:44
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Räpi ja Sõnumineerimise/jutustamise vahele võid tuua võrdusmärgi,
räp ja elutegevuse vahel, elufilosoofia ja mõtte vahel29 April 2018 17:58
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Panin pehmema laulu sõnumi, algul oli karmim valik,
võid vastu laulda ka, loovalt kui soovid29 April 2018 17:58
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Elver Loho näed See oligi sinu tase mida siis paari utnniga
ise kobisede tulles toota suutsid ?
Ma tegin SULLE teene, et üldse vastasin Sulle, teades Su olemus,t ja väga tagasihoidlikult ja healoomuliselt veel võimaluse sul andsin,
ja siis sa põgened selise lause taha, mis siis tuled kobisema kui ei ole mehisust lõpuni minna ?
Mis vajadused mul on ja mis rahuldust SINA mulle pakkuda saaksid ?
Peale selle, et asud Valgete poolele ja siis tean, et ei tõmmata kanepit lõksu, pealiskaudsete liberaalidega,
kes jätavad tarkadele akadeemikutle arusaaama, et te ÜLDSE ei saa aru kanepi sügavusest, headusest, ohtlikusest ja vajadustest ühiskonnas
Ära teistkoda sedasi muidu tühja torkima tule, muidu on nagu seadusekuulekuse laulus või mõnes hafKungis ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7Q8MGTGx4chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7Q8MGTGx4c
29 April 2018 17:56
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mõtlsin sele etenduseja kultuuuri osa ärapästa mis nad kokku keerasid sääl hipide mõnitmaise ja algelsie esitusena..29 April 2018 16:29
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ma just Ugalas trippisin mõned päevad tagasi, paras etendus oli ka... tsekka mu seina moned päevad tagasi :p29 April 2018 16:29
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:D (Y)29 April 2018 16:28
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Kas siis juged teha, Päris teksti lahkamis,e vaadata mida saad aru ja mida ei saa
või jätkad kommunistina, deemoni teerinina, süsteemi orjastaja käitumist, et siin minusuguseid tuled torkima avaliku laimuga,
toetmaise asemel
tulen siia tagasi mone tunni päras,t vaatan, kas oled vastuse saanud vlamistada mulle,
korraliku,
kus lahkad mu alguspostitust,
lauselauselt lõik lõigult.. ja selgitad mis on nii ja mis ei ole arusaadav ja mis on valesti,
ja siis muu jutt ka sinna otsa29 April 2018 16:28
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Sinuga oleks paras teha otse laiv textina debate29 April 2018 16:22
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ma selgitan KUIDAS asjad toimivad, mitte isikulistele kogemustele ei pane rõhku
sest kui oled inimene, siis inimestele need asjad samamoodi toimivad,
ja need asjad mis sarnaseid asju teismtoodi nägema panevad on ka sarnased,
olgu neid kui iganes mitu kihti
Ma räägin KUIDAS asjad toimivad
Võta näited välja ja ütle kus on väär, kus on viga, mis on teismtoodi,
(muide seda peabki inimene pidevalt tegema üksteisega, mitte maha kiskuma ja ründama esimese suhtluse algatusena)29 April 2018 16:21
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Teee nii nagu Sulle instruktsioon anti,
ma iga lapsega ka sin aega ei viida üleliia
võta lõik lõigu kaupa
ja pane
komentaari märgid " // "
kuhu thaa kirjuta oma arusaam mida motlesid mis ma ütlesin ja mida ise arvad
uue " // "" alustades
ja siis järgmise lõigu võtad, paned jutumärkide sisse
Ja siis komenteerid seda lõiku,
peale igat mõtte arusaama,
ei pane kahte motet ja reaalsust korraga ühte lõiku, et kindel olla, et ikka eraldad ja arusaad29 April 2018 16:18
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Kopeerisid mu jutu,
räägi nüüd kus ma rääkisin, et "narkots mu maailma mõtlemist muutnud on tohutult, et tahaks rohke narkotsi pana vms
"
et kus see jutt on ??29 April 2018 16:16
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Elver Loho ei ole vaja teha narkis, selles asi ongi, et Su suused narkarid, soovivad "narkis panna"
Sest see ajualarendav on naudelda nende asjadega aoinult
aga tundub, et sa enamasti ainult rõhku paned, et see iniemse enda vaba tahe ja nautlemine, igast asu endale sisse ajad,a ja kui see juhtub kanep olema siis miks mitte, ku iteise mehe riist või mingi muu aine,.. siis hääletad selle heaks ka,
olenemata sellest,
et läbimotleks, mis aine ja tegu on inimhingele ja ühiskonnale kuidas kauslik29 April 2018 16:15
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Elver Loho ot mida ma selliselt kirjutanud olen, et "narks on mu mõttmeaailma tohutult muutnud"
FOR real, kus ???29 April 2018 16:13
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või õigemini on see see stiil mida suudan sõrmedega järgi anda,
kui endale sekretäri saab kes mu eest trükib, või neile paraleel gramaatilise paraleeli loob (nagu keele paraleel tõlke valik fb is)
siis ka susugustel, kuid vahet pole, sest SIIS Sa ka mõista ei sooviks,
Või siis sooviksid?
Loe nüüd mulle , ole meheks, lause lauselt, eralda see algpostituse jutt, ja pane
//siin selle märgiga: " // "
tagantjärgi oma komentaarid kuhumaani aru said ja mida said, ja mida ei saanud
Sedasi hakselda mu tekst, siis vaatan mis lootus Sul on ja mida kudias selgitama pean29 April 2018 16:11
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nagu ma ütlesin, minu eluarusaam on, et see kes teab kes olen ja seda oskab arusaad,a väärtustadas, mõne muu vihje kaudu mida avastanud, see küsib üle visakalt, ükskõik mis lause osa,s et "mis see ja mis see tähendab"
ja ALATI on vastus saadud, see ongi mõte
et robotid ja trollid ja agendid otse ei loeks ja oma algorytmidsesse ei topiks29 April 2018 16:10
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Elver Loho saad aru mees, see on MINU kõne stiil kuidas mina räägin,
See umbes sama, kui hakkad norim,a et keegi on tedretähnide või kõvera ninaga,
et "mine tee nina ilu opp siis utle ruumi tagasi"
sellie fassisti suhtumine29 April 2018 16:08
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Nagu see demokraatia jura mida ajad;
et teete sellist asja, et lähete kaasa millega iganes mida mass soovib,
arusaamata kes massi juhib,
mis jätkusuutlik tarkus ja geniaalsus see on ?
See sobiks LISANA lisaks reaalsetele plaanidele, kuid see ei saa olla põhiplaan eks,
kui Sul vaja aru saada mida ja kuidas tegelikult teha, erakondade ja maailma juhtimise osas, siis pane aeg kirja, ja kuna Sa rahakam, soovitav leks sul maksta ka, kuid saan aru, kui Sa ei jaksa
ja siis õpetan Sulle paar tundi kuidas asju ajama pead, et ei peaks kurtma, oma "munnidest" arusaamisest29 April 2018 16:07
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ma anna sulle oma tel numbri, helistad, küsi minult kui vaja arusaama hakata,29 April 2018 16:05
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Seosetu ja "munnigi ei saa aru" on neile, kes ei saagi Munnigi aru,
Kuna ma REAAALSUSES olen, siis need kes on deliiriumis, jah, ei saagi aru saada ju REAALSUSEST, eks?
Sest kui sa "munnigi" aru ei saanud, mitmest reast tekstis,t ühteig rida ei saanud (sest tegelikult ei üritanud, ei püüdnud oma lineaarse mõtlemisega)
ja sis pole endla häbi ka siia tulla ütlema, et sa "munnnigi" aru ei saanud, ja isegi ei saa aru, et Sinul selle üle häbi peaks olema ?
Kui Sa päriselt oleksid tahtnud arusaad,a mitte ei töötaks orja süsteemi kasuks,
siis oleksid tulnud privaatselt küsima, või muud moodi avalikult küsinud, ühe tiese asjasa sesose tähendust, ja olnud õppimisvõimeline
aga selleasemel peeretad suurelt toa täis
Vahi videot ainult, see pekas Sulle arusaadav olema29 April 2018 16:04
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võrgustatud serverid mis ruumi ja võimsust jagavad ja vahendavad omavahel vms
29 April 2018 15:51
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ütlenud basic prinsiip ära MIS see on kasvõi kuulajale
29 April 2018 15:51
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Sellise CV iga inimene ja teadussaate juht,
Ütles, et nad ei tea kuidas pilve tehnoloogia töötab
nu tule taevas appi..
ma saan aru, et naine seda turvalisuse mõttes ütles, et sunniviisiliselt instituudid teda ei pane kommunismi sotsiaalmeediat tegema, kuna mu maailmaparandus ideed lõpuks ka kommunismi teadvusesse jõudma hakanud...
et maakera juhtimis süsteem mis kulture arendab, parendab, ja maasuunas mõtlema suunab ..
aga neil vast siis komose suunas..
aga saate juht., temal tundus täitsa siiras, et ta ei teadnud...
Ütles, et nad ei tea kuidas pilve tehnoloogia töötab
nu tule taevas appi..
ma saan aru, et naine seda turvalisuse mõttes ütles, et sunniviisiliselt instituudid teda ei pane kommunismi sotsiaalmeediat tegema, kuna mu maailmaparandus ideed lõpuks ka kommunismi teadvusesse jõudma hakanud...
et maakera juhtimis süsteem mis kulture arendab, parendab, ja maasuunas mõtlema suunab ..
aga neil vast siis komose suunas..
aga saate juht., temal tundus täitsa siiras, et ta ei teadnud...
29 April 2018 15:50
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Selline CV, ja ütles, et talle pole selgitatud, kuidas pilve tehnoloogia toimib..
seda vb turvalisuse mõttes ütles, kuid kuidas saab nii olla
seda vb turvalisuse mõttes ütles, kuid kuidas saab nii olla
29 April 2018 15:48
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Котта, Ю.Р. (1989). Расщепление нелинейных дискртеных управляемых систем. Известия Академии наук СССР. Техническая кибернетика, 1, 15−20.
1.2.1989
Kotta, Ü. (1989). Approximate input-output linearization of discrete-time nonlinear systems. Proceedings of the Academy of Sciences of the Estonian SSR. Physics. Mathematics, 38, 460−462, 470.
3.4.1989
Kotta, U. (1989). The disturbance decoupling problem in nonlinear discrete time systems. Nonlinear Control Systems Design : Preprints of the IFAC Symposium, Capri, Italy, 14-16 June 1989. Ed. Isidori, A. Oxford: Pergamon Press, 59−63.
1.1.1987
Kotta, Yu.R. (1987). The ensuring of autonomy of a nonlinear dynamical system with discrete time. Soviet Journal of Computer and Systems Sciences, 25 (6), 161−166.
1.1.1987
Kotta, U. (1987). Application of inverse system for linearization and decoupling. Systems & Control Letters, 8 (5), 453−457.10.1016/0167-6911(87)90086-7.
1.1.1986
Kotta, Y.R. (1986). Derivation of the inverse system for discrete nonlinear-systems. Soviet Journal of Computer and Systems Sciences, 24 (5), 152−156.
3.1.1986
Котта, Ю., Нургес, Ю. (1986). Стабилизация дискретной билинейной системы с помощью линейной обратной связи. Михалевич, В. С.. Дискретные системы управления : респ. межвед. сб. науч. тр. (5−7). Наукова думка. (Кибернетика и вычислительная техника; 71).
3.2.1986
Kotta, Yu.; Nurges, Yu. (1986). Stabilization of a discrete bilinear system by means of linear feedback. In: Cybernetics and Computing Technology, no. 71 (508). Allerton Press.
3.1.1985
Kotta, U.; Nurges, U. (1985). Identification of input-output bilinear systems. A bridge between control science and technology : proceedings of the ninth Triennial World Congress of IFAC, Budapest, Hungary, 2-6 July 1984. Ed. Gertler, Janos; Keviczky, Laszlo. Oxford, UK: Pergamon Press, 723−727.
3.1.1983
Kotta, Ü. (1983). On-line eigenvector algorithms for the identification of dynamic systems. Identification and System Parameter Estimation : Proceedings of the Sixth IFAC Symposium, Washington DC, USA, 7-11 June 1982, Vol 1. Ed. Bekey, G.A.; Saridis, G.N. Oxford: Pergamon Press, 1265−1269. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 15-4).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)63171-9.
3.1.1980
Kotta, Ü. (1980). Structure and parameter estimation of multivariable systems using eigenvector method. Identification and system parameter estimation : proceedings of the Fifth IFAC Symposium, Darmstadt, Federal Republic of Germany, 24-28 September 1979. Ed. Isermann, R. New York: Pergamon Press, 453−458.
1.1.1977
Kotta, Ülle (1977). Comments on "On a priori error estimates of some identification methods". IEEE Transactions on Automatic Control, 22 (3), 489−490.
Kotta, Y.; Nijmeijer, H. (1992). Dynamic compensation for perturbations in discrete nonlinear-systems. Soviet Journal of Computer and Systems Sciences, 30 (4), 90−97.
1.2.1992
Kotta, Ü. (1992). Dynamic disturbance decoupling for discrete-time nonlinear systems: the nonsquare and noninvertible case. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 41 (1), 14−22.
1.2.1992
Kotta, Ü. (1992). Model matching of nonlinear discrete time systems via dynamic state feedback. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 41 (2), 109−117.
1.2.1992
Котта, Ю. Р. (1992). Синтез нелинейных систем с заданными вход-выходными отображениями. Эффекты дискретизации. Известия Академии наук. Техническая кибернетика, 3, 17−27.
3.1.1992
Kotta, Ü. (1992). Dynamic disturbance decoupling for discrete time nonlinear systems: a solution in terms of system invariants. System Structure and Control : preprints of the IFAC workshop, Prague, Czechoslovakia, 3-5 September 1992. Ed. Strejc, V. Oxford: Pergamon Press, 200−203. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 25-21).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)49751-5.
3.4.1992
Kotta, Ü. (1992). Model matching of nonlinear discrete-time systems in the presence of unmeasurable disturbances. Preprints of 2nd IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems Design, Bordeaux. 563−568.
1.2.1991
Kotta, Ü. (1991). Model matching of nonlinear single-input single-output discrete-time systems: formal and local solutions. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 40 (2), 89−98.
1.2.1991
Котта, Ю.; Неймейер, Х. (1991). Динамическая компенсация возмущений в дискретных нелинейных системах. Известия Академии наук СССР. Техническая кибернетика, 4, 52−59.
3.4.1991
Kotta, Ü. (1991). The disturbance decoupling by static state feedback for nonlinear discrete-time systems. Prepr.of Int.Scientific-Technical Meeting "Control System Synthesis: Theory and Application", Novosibirsk. 37−42.
1.1.1990
Kotta, Y.R. (1990). Designing nonlinear discrete-time-systems which are invariant under disturbances. Automation and Remote Control, 51 (3), 294−300.
1.1.1990
Kotta, Y.R. (1990). Linearization of linear-analytic systems by the method of right-inverse systems - the effects of discretization. Soviet Journal of Computer and Systems Sciences, 28 (2), 32−39.
1.1.1990
Kotta, U. (1990). Right inverse of a discrete time non-linear system. International Journal of Control, 51 (1), 1−9.10.1080/00207179008934047.
1.1.1989
Kotta, Y.R. (1989). Decomposition of nonlinear discrete controlled systems. Soviet Journal of Computer and Systems Sciences, 27 (4), 58−62.
1.1.1989
Kotta, U. (1989). Comments on 'On the stability of discrete-time sliding mode control systems'. IEEE Transactions on Automatic Control, 34 (9), 1021−1022.10.1109/9.35824.
1.1.1989
Котта, Ю.Р. (1989). Расщепление нелинейных дискртеных управляемых систем. Известия Академии наук СССР. Техническая кибернетика, 1, 15−20.
1.2.1989
Kotta, Ü. (1989). Approximate input-output linearization of discrete-time nonlinear systems. Proceedings of the Academy of Sciences of the Estonian SSR. Physics. Mathematics, 38, 460−462, 470.
3.4.1989
Kotta, U. (1989). The disturbance decoupling problem in nonlinear discrete time systems. Nonlinear Control Systems Design : Preprints of the IFAC Symposium, Capri, Italy, 14-16 June 1989. Ed. Isidori, A. Oxford: Pergamon Press, 59−63.
1.1.1987
Kotta, Yu.R. (1987). The ensuring of autonomy of a nonlinear dynamical system with discrete time. Soviet Journal of Computer and Systems Sciences, 25 (6), 161−166.
1.1.1987
Kotta, U. (1987). Application of inverse system for linearization and decoupling. Systems & Control Letters, 8 (5), 453−457.10.1016/0167-6911(87)90086-7.
1.1.1986
Kotta, Y.R. (1986). Derivation of the inverse system for discrete nonlinear-systems. Soviet Journal of Computer and Systems Sciences, 24 (5), 152−156.
3.1.1986
Котта, Ю., Нургес, Ю. (1986). Стабилизация дискретной билинейной системы с помощью линейной обратной связи. Михалевич, В. С.. Дискретные системы управления : респ. межвед. сб. науч. тр. (5−7). Наукова думка. (Кибернетика и вычислительная техника; 71).
3.2.1986
Kotta, Yu.; Nurges, Yu. (1986). Stabilization of a discrete bilinear system by means of linear feedback. In: Cybernetics and Computing Technology, no. 71 (508). Allerton Press.
3.1.1985
Kotta, U.; Nurges, U. (1985). Identification of input-output bilinear systems. A bridge between control science and technology : proceedings of the ninth Triennial World Congress of IFAC, Budapest, Hungary, 2-6 July 1984. Ed. Gertler, Janos; Keviczky, Laszlo. Oxford, UK: Pergamon Press, 723−727.
3.1.1983
Kotta, Ü. (1983). On-line eigenvector algorithms for the identification of dynamic systems. Identification and System Parameter Estimation : Proceedings of the Sixth IFAC Symposium, Washington DC, USA, 7-11 June 1982, Vol 1. Ed. Bekey, G.A.; Saridis, G.N. Oxford: Pergamon Press, 1265−1269. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 15-4).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)63171-9.
3.1.1980
Kotta, Ü. (1980). Structure and parameter estimation of multivariable systems using eigenvector method. Identification and system parameter estimation : proceedings of the Fifth IFAC Symposium, Darmstadt, Federal Republic of Germany, 24-28 September 1979. Ed. Isermann, R. New York: Pergamon Press, 453−458.
1.1.1977
Kotta, Ülle (1977). Comments on "On a priori error estimates of some identification methods". IEEE Transactions on Automatic Control, 22 (3), 489−490.
29 April 2018 15:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1.1.1994
Kotta, Ü. (1994). Comments on a structural approach to the nonlinear model matching problem. SIAM Journal on Control and Optimization, 32 (6), 1555−1558.10.1137/S0363012992231380.
1.1.1994
Kotta, Ü.; Nijmeijer, H. (1994). On dynamic input-output linearization of discrete-time nonlinear systems. International Journal of Control, 60 (6), 1319−1337.10.1080/00207179408921524.
1.2.1994
Kotta, Ü. (1994). Discrete-time models of a nonlinear continuous-time system. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 43 (2), 64−78.
1.2.1994
Kotta, Ü. (1994). Dynamic disturbance decoupling for discrete-time nonlinear systems: a solution in terms of system invariants. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 43 (3), 147−159.
1.2.1994
Kotta, Ü. (1994). Model matching of nonlinear discrete-time systems in the presence of disturbances. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 43 (1), 7−14.
3.1.1994
Kotta, U. (1994). Structural approach to discrete-time nonlinear model matching. Automatic Control : World Congress 1993 : Proceedings of the 12th Triennial World Congress of the International Federation of Automatic Control, Sydney, Australia, 18-23 July 1993, Volume 1. Ed. Goodwin, G.C.; Evans, R.J. Oxford: Pergamon, 183−186. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 26-2).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)49104-X.
3.1.1994
Fliegner, T.H.; Nijmeijer, H.; Kotta, Ü. (1994). Some aspects of nonlinear discrete-time descriptor systems in economics. Predictability and Nonlinear Modelling in Natural Sciences and Economics. Ed. Grasman,J.; van Straten,G. Dordrecht: Kluwer, 582−591.
3.1.1994
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü.; Moog, C.H. (1994). Accessibility and feedback linearization of discrete-time systems. Proceedings of the 33rd IEEE Conference on Decision and Control : December 14-16, 1994, Lake Buena Vista, Florida, USA, 2. New York: IEEE, 1627−1632.
3.1.1994
Kotta, Ü. (1994). Robust output tracking design for affine nonlinear system via variable structure control. IFAC Symposium on Robust Control Design : Proceedings, September 14-16, 1994, Rio de Janeiro, Brasil. Ed. Geromel, J. C.; Ferreira,P. M.G. IFAC; Brazilian Society of Automatic Control, 63−68.
3.4.1994
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, U.; Moog, C.. (1994). A linear algebraic framework for feedback linearization of discrete-time nonlinear systems. New Trends in Design of Control Systems : 1.IFAC Workshop on New..., Smolenice, Slovak Republic, September 7-10, 1994 : preprints. Ed. Huba, M., Mikleš, J. 35−40.
1.1.1993
Kotta, Y.R. (1993). Synthesizing nonlinear-systems with specified input-output mappings - sampling effects. Journal of Computer and Systems Sciences International, 31 (5), 66−76.
1.1.1993
Kotta, U.R. (1993). Matching of discrete-time nonlinear models. Automation and Remote Control, 54 (8), 1242−1254.
1.1.1993
Котта, Ю.Р. (1993). Задача согласования нелинейных моделей с дискретным временем. Автомтика и телемеханика, 8, 74−89.
1.2.1993
Kotta, Ü. (1993). Decoupling of discrete-time nonlinear systems by minimal order dynamic state feedback. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 42 (4), 308−319.
1.2.1993
Kotta, Ü. (1993). Essential orders for discrete-time nonlinear system. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 42 (3), 229−235.
1.2.1993
Kotta, Ü. (1993). On zero-output constrained dynamics of discrete-time nonlinear system. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 42 (1), 95−106.
3.4.1993
Fliegner, T.; Nijmeijer, H.; Kotta, Ü. (1993). Aspects of nonlinear discrete-time descriptor systems in economics. Preprints of Workshop on Predictability and Nonlinear Modelling in Natural Sciences and Economics, 1993, Wageningen, Netherlands. 68−76.
3.4.1993
Kotta, Ü. (1993). On zero-dynamics of discrete-time nonlinear system in the presence of disturbances. Preprints of 2nd European Control Conference, 1993, Groningen, 2. 767−769.
3.4.1993
Kotta, U. (1993). Structural approach to discrete-time nonlinear model matching. 12th World Congress International Federation of Automatic Control : Sydney, Australia, 18-23 July 1993, Preprints of Papers, 9. 261−264.
Kotta, Ü. (1994). Comments on a structural approach to the nonlinear model matching problem. SIAM Journal on Control and Optimization, 32 (6), 1555−1558.10.1137/S0363012992231380.
1.1.1994
Kotta, Ü.; Nijmeijer, H. (1994). On dynamic input-output linearization of discrete-time nonlinear systems. International Journal of Control, 60 (6), 1319−1337.10.1080/00207179408921524.
1.2.1994
Kotta, Ü. (1994). Discrete-time models of a nonlinear continuous-time system. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 43 (2), 64−78.
1.2.1994
Kotta, Ü. (1994). Dynamic disturbance decoupling for discrete-time nonlinear systems: a solution in terms of system invariants. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 43 (3), 147−159.
1.2.1994
Kotta, Ü. (1994). Model matching of nonlinear discrete-time systems in the presence of disturbances. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 43 (1), 7−14.
3.1.1994
Kotta, U. (1994). Structural approach to discrete-time nonlinear model matching. Automatic Control : World Congress 1993 : Proceedings of the 12th Triennial World Congress of the International Federation of Automatic Control, Sydney, Australia, 18-23 July 1993, Volume 1. Ed. Goodwin, G.C.; Evans, R.J. Oxford: Pergamon, 183−186. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 26-2).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)49104-X.
3.1.1994
Fliegner, T.H.; Nijmeijer, H.; Kotta, Ü. (1994). Some aspects of nonlinear discrete-time descriptor systems in economics. Predictability and Nonlinear Modelling in Natural Sciences and Economics. Ed. Grasman,J.; van Straten,G. Dordrecht: Kluwer, 582−591.
3.1.1994
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü.; Moog, C.H. (1994). Accessibility and feedback linearization of discrete-time systems. Proceedings of the 33rd IEEE Conference on Decision and Control : December 14-16, 1994, Lake Buena Vista, Florida, USA, 2. New York: IEEE, 1627−1632.
3.1.1994
Kotta, Ü. (1994). Robust output tracking design for affine nonlinear system via variable structure control. IFAC Symposium on Robust Control Design : Proceedings, September 14-16, 1994, Rio de Janeiro, Brasil. Ed. Geromel, J. C.; Ferreira,P. M.G. IFAC; Brazilian Society of Automatic Control, 63−68.
3.4.1994
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, U.; Moog, C.. (1994). A linear algebraic framework for feedback linearization of discrete-time nonlinear systems. New Trends in Design of Control Systems : 1.IFAC Workshop on New..., Smolenice, Slovak Republic, September 7-10, 1994 : preprints. Ed. Huba, M., Mikleš, J. 35−40.
1.1.1993
Kotta, Y.R. (1993). Synthesizing nonlinear-systems with specified input-output mappings - sampling effects. Journal of Computer and Systems Sciences International, 31 (5), 66−76.
1.1.1993
Kotta, U.R. (1993). Matching of discrete-time nonlinear models. Automation and Remote Control, 54 (8), 1242−1254.
1.1.1993
Котта, Ю.Р. (1993). Задача согласования нелинейных моделей с дискретным временем. Автомтика и телемеханика, 8, 74−89.
1.2.1993
Kotta, Ü. (1993). Decoupling of discrete-time nonlinear systems by minimal order dynamic state feedback. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 42 (4), 308−319.
1.2.1993
Kotta, Ü. (1993). Essential orders for discrete-time nonlinear system. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 42 (3), 229−235.
1.2.1993
Kotta, Ü. (1993). On zero-output constrained dynamics of discrete-time nonlinear system. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 42 (1), 95−106.
3.4.1993
Fliegner, T.; Nijmeijer, H.; Kotta, Ü. (1993). Aspects of nonlinear discrete-time descriptor systems in economics. Preprints of Workshop on Predictability and Nonlinear Modelling in Natural Sciences and Economics, 1993, Wageningen, Netherlands. 68−76.
3.4.1993
Kotta, Ü. (1993). On zero-dynamics of discrete-time nonlinear system in the presence of disturbances. Preprints of 2nd European Control Conference, 1993, Groningen, 2. 767−769.
3.4.1993
Kotta, U. (1993). Structural approach to discrete-time nonlinear model matching. 12th World Congress International Federation of Automatic Control : Sydney, Australia, 18-23 July 1993, Preprints of Papers, 9. 261−264.
29 April 2018 15:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1.2.1997
Kotta, Ülle (1997). Model matching problem for nonlinear recursive systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 46 (4), 251−261.
3.1.1997
Aranda-Bricaire, Eduardo; Kotta, Ülle (1997). The discrete-time nonlinear dynamic disturbance decoupling problem with partially mesurable disturbances. Control of Oscillations and Chaos : 1997 1st International Conference, proceedings, August 27-29, St.Petersburg, Russia, Vol. 1. Toim. Chernousko, F.L.; Fradkov, A.L. New York: IEEE, 82−85.
3.1.1997
Kotta, Ü.; Liu, P.; Zinober, A.S.I. (1997). State-space realization of input-output nonlinear difference equations. ECC 97 : European Control Conference proceedings : Brussels, 1-4 July 1997. Brussels: IEEE, 3386−3391.
3.1.1997
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü. (1997). Equivalence of discrete-time nonlinear systems to prime systems under proper generalized output transformations. ECC 97 : European Control Conference proceedings : Brussels, 1-4 July 1997. Brussels: IEEE, 3119−3124.
1.1.1996
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü.; Moog, C.H. (1996). Linearization of discrete-time systems. SIAM Journal on Control and Optimization, 34 (6), 1999−2023.10.1137/S0363012994267315.
1.1.1996
Fliegner, T.; Kotta, Ü.; Nijmeijer, H. (1996). Solvability and right-inversion of implicit nonlinear discrete-time systems. SIAM Journal on Control and Optimization, 34 (6), 2092−2115.10.1137/S036301299527950X.
1.1.1996
Kotta, Ü.; Nijmeijer, H. (1996). Immersion of discrete-time nonlinear system by regular dynamic state feedback into a linear system. International Journal of Control, 64 (3), 361−376.10.1080/00207179608921633.
1.2.1996
Kotta, Ülle (1996). On right invertibility of recursive nonlinear systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 45 (4), 279−291.
3.1.1996
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü. (1996). Dynamic disturbance decoupling for discrete-time nonlinear systems: a solution in terms of generalized controlled invariance. Proceedings of the 35th IEEE Conference on Decision and Control, Kobe, Japan, 4. New York: IEEE, 4317−4318.
3.1.1996
Kotta, Ü. (1996). On right invertibility of nonlinear recursive systems. Proceedings of the 13th World Congress, International Federation of Automatic Control. Vol. F. Nonlinear Systems II. Oxford: Pergamon, F 7−13. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 29-1).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)58034-9.
3.4.1996
Kotta, Ü. (1996). Inversion algorithm for nonlinear recursive systems. Prepr.of MTNS'96, St.Louis, USA. [1−4].
3.4.1996
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü. (1996). Equivalence of discrete-time nonlinear systems to prime systems. Flatness of Nonlinear Systems: Theory and Application: Prepr.of Workshop, Sheffield, UK. [1−8].
3.4.1996
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü. (1996). Equivalence of discrete-time nonlinear systems to prime systems. Prepr.of MTNS'96, St.Louis, USA. [1−5].
2.1.1995
Kotta, Ü. (1995). Inversion method in the discrete-time nonlinear control systems synthesis problem. Berlin: Springer.
3.1.1995
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, U.; Moog, C. (1995). A linear algebraic framework for feedback linearization of discrete-time nonlinear systems. New trends in design of control systems : a postprint volume from the IFAC workshop, Smolenice, Solvak Republik, 7-10 September 1994. Ed. Huba, M.; Mikles, J. Oxford: Pergamon, 39−44. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 27-11).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)47619-1.
3.1.1995
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü. (1995). Dynamic disturbance decoupling for discrete-time nonlinear systems: a linear algebraic solution. System Structure and Control 1995 : A Proceedings volume from the IFAC Conference, Nantes, France, 5-7 July 1995. Ed. Guglielmi, M. Oxford: Pergamon Press, 151−156. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 28-8).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)45453-X.
3.4.1995
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü. (1995). Dynamic disturbance decoupling for discrete-time nonlinear systems: a linear algebraic solution. IFAC Conference on System Structure and Control : Nantes, France, 5-7 July 1995 : preprints. Nantes, 155−160.
3.4.1995
Fliegner, T; Nijmeijer, H.; Kotta, Ü. (1995). On the solvability and right inversion of implicit non-linear discrete-time systems. Proceedings of the third European Control Conference, ECC 95 : September 5-8, 1995, Roma, Italy, 1. Ed. Isidori, A. [et. al.]. 283−288.
Kotta, Ülle (1997). Model matching problem for nonlinear recursive systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 46 (4), 251−261.
3.1.1997
Aranda-Bricaire, Eduardo; Kotta, Ülle (1997). The discrete-time nonlinear dynamic disturbance decoupling problem with partially mesurable disturbances. Control of Oscillations and Chaos : 1997 1st International Conference, proceedings, August 27-29, St.Petersburg, Russia, Vol. 1. Toim. Chernousko, F.L.; Fradkov, A.L. New York: IEEE, 82−85.
3.1.1997
Kotta, Ü.; Liu, P.; Zinober, A.S.I. (1997). State-space realization of input-output nonlinear difference equations. ECC 97 : European Control Conference proceedings : Brussels, 1-4 July 1997. Brussels: IEEE, 3386−3391.
3.1.1997
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü. (1997). Equivalence of discrete-time nonlinear systems to prime systems under proper generalized output transformations. ECC 97 : European Control Conference proceedings : Brussels, 1-4 July 1997. Brussels: IEEE, 3119−3124.
1.1.1996
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü.; Moog, C.H. (1996). Linearization of discrete-time systems. SIAM Journal on Control and Optimization, 34 (6), 1999−2023.10.1137/S0363012994267315.
1.1.1996
Fliegner, T.; Kotta, Ü.; Nijmeijer, H. (1996). Solvability and right-inversion of implicit nonlinear discrete-time systems. SIAM Journal on Control and Optimization, 34 (6), 2092−2115.10.1137/S036301299527950X.
1.1.1996
Kotta, Ü.; Nijmeijer, H. (1996). Immersion of discrete-time nonlinear system by regular dynamic state feedback into a linear system. International Journal of Control, 64 (3), 361−376.10.1080/00207179608921633.
1.2.1996
Kotta, Ülle (1996). On right invertibility of recursive nonlinear systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 45 (4), 279−291.
3.1.1996
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü. (1996). Dynamic disturbance decoupling for discrete-time nonlinear systems: a solution in terms of generalized controlled invariance. Proceedings of the 35th IEEE Conference on Decision and Control, Kobe, Japan, 4. New York: IEEE, 4317−4318.
3.1.1996
Kotta, Ü. (1996). On right invertibility of nonlinear recursive systems. Proceedings of the 13th World Congress, International Federation of Automatic Control. Vol. F. Nonlinear Systems II. Oxford: Pergamon, F 7−13. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 29-1).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)58034-9.
3.4.1996
Kotta, Ü. (1996). Inversion algorithm for nonlinear recursive systems. Prepr.of MTNS'96, St.Louis, USA. [1−4].
3.4.1996
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü. (1996). Equivalence of discrete-time nonlinear systems to prime systems. Flatness of Nonlinear Systems: Theory and Application: Prepr.of Workshop, Sheffield, UK. [1−8].
3.4.1996
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü. (1996). Equivalence of discrete-time nonlinear systems to prime systems. Prepr.of MTNS'96, St.Louis, USA. [1−5].
2.1.1995
Kotta, Ü. (1995). Inversion method in the discrete-time nonlinear control systems synthesis problem. Berlin: Springer.
3.1.1995
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, U.; Moog, C. (1995). A linear algebraic framework for feedback linearization of discrete-time nonlinear systems. New trends in design of control systems : a postprint volume from the IFAC workshop, Smolenice, Solvak Republik, 7-10 September 1994. Ed. Huba, M.; Mikles, J. Oxford: Pergamon, 39−44. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 27-11).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)47619-1.
3.1.1995
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü. (1995). Dynamic disturbance decoupling for discrete-time nonlinear systems: a linear algebraic solution. System Structure and Control 1995 : A Proceedings volume from the IFAC Conference, Nantes, France, 5-7 July 1995. Ed. Guglielmi, M. Oxford: Pergamon Press, 151−156. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 28-8).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)45453-X.
3.4.1995
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü. (1995). Dynamic disturbance decoupling for discrete-time nonlinear systems: a linear algebraic solution. IFAC Conference on System Structure and Control : Nantes, France, 5-7 July 1995 : preprints. Nantes, 155−160.
3.4.1995
Fliegner, T; Nijmeijer, H.; Kotta, Ü. (1995). On the solvability and right inversion of implicit non-linear discrete-time systems. Proceedings of the third European Control Conference, ECC 95 : September 5-8, 1995, Roma, Italy, 1. Ed. Isidori, A. [et. al.]. 283−288.
29 April 2018 15:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1.1.1999
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (1999). Transfer equivalence and realization of nonlinear higher order input/output difference equations using Mathematica. Journal of Circuits, Systems and Computers, 9, 23−35.
3.1.1999
Kotta, Ü.; Liu, P.; Zinober, A.S.I. (1999). Transfer equivalence and realization of nonlinear higher order i/o difference equations using MAPLE. Proceedings of the 14th IFAC World Congress : 5 - 9 July 1999, Beijing, P.R.China, E. Ed. Chen, H.-F.; Cheng, D.-Z.; Zhang, J.-F. Oxford: Pergamon, 249−254. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 32-2).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)56403-4.
3.1.1999
Kotta, Ü. (1999). Towards a solution of the state-space realization problem of a set of multi-input multi-output nonlinear difference equations. European Control Conference ECC'99 : 31. August-3. September 1999, Karlsruhe, Germany, Conference Proceedings. Karlsruhe: IEEE, 2748−2753.
3.4.1999
Kotta, Ü. (1999). Input-output models for a class of nonlinear systems: questions and answers. The 7th Mediterranean Conference on Control & Automation (MED99) : Proceedings, June 28-30, 1999, Haifa, Israel. Tirat Carmel: OriGraph, 1254−1260.
6.7.1999
Kotta, Ülle (1999). Ülo Jaaksoo 60. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences. Physics. Mathematics, 48 (2), 153−154.
1.2.1998
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü. (1998). Equivalence of discrete-time nonlinear systems to prime systems (Summary). Journal of Mathematical Systems, Estimation, and Control, 8 (4), 471−474.
1.2.1998
Kotta, Ülle (1998). Inversion algorithm for recursive nonlinear systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 47 (1), 3−18.
3.1.1998
Kotta, Ü. (1998). Removing input derivatives in generalized state-space systems: A linear algebraic approach. 1998 4th International Conference on Actual Problems of Electronic Instrument Engineering Proceedings APEIE-98 : Novosibirsk, September 23-26, 1998, Vol.1. IEEE, 391−396.10.1109/APEIE.1998.768996.
3.1.1998
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (1998). Transfer equivalence and realization of nonlinear higher order i/o difference equations using Mathematica. IEEE APCCAS 1998 : the 1998 IEEE Asia-Pacific Conference on Circuits and Systems : Microelectronics and Integrating Systems : November 24-27, 1998, Chiangmai Plaza Hotel, Chiangmai, Thailand. Piscataway, N.J.: IEEE, 671−674.
3.1.1998
Kotta, Ü.; Liu, P.; Zinober, A. (1998). Transfer equivalence of nonlinear higher order difference equations. Nonlinear Control Systems Design 1998 (NOLCOS´98) : A Proceedings volume from the 4th IFAC Symposium, Entschende, The Netherlands, 1-3 July 1998, 1. Ed. Huijberts, H.J.S. et al. Oxford: Pergamon Press, 73−78. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 31-17).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)40313-2.
3.1.1998
Kotta, Ü. (1998). Lowering the order of input shifts in multi-input discrete-time generalized state-space systems. Proceedings of the 37th IEEE Conference on Decision and Control : December 16-18, 1998, Hyatt Regency Westshore, Tampa, Florida, USA, 4. Piscataway, N.J.: IEEE Control Systems Society, 4638−4639.
3.1.1998
Kotta, Ü. (1998). Lowering the orders of input shifts in discrete-time generalized state-space systems. System structure and control 1998 (SSC'98) : a proceedings volume from the 5th IFAC Conference, Nantes, France, 8-10 July 1998, 2. Ed. Lafay, J.F. Oxford: Pergamon, 727−732. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 31-18).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)42077-5.
3.1.1998
Kotta, Ü. (1998). Input-output decoupling of nonlinear recursive systems. Theory and practice of control and systems : proceedings of the 6th IEEE Mediterranean Conference : Alghero, Sardinia, Italy, 9-11 June 1998. Ed. Tornambe, A.; Conte, G.; Perdon, A.M. Singapore: World Scientific, 550−554.10.1142/9789814447317_0091.
3.4.1998
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (1998). Towards a symbolic computation toolbox for transforming a generalized state equations into a classical form. Proceedings of the 13th International Conference on Systems Science : Vol. 1. Plenary. Systems theory. Control theory. Systems engineering. Control engineering: 15-18 September 1998, Wroclaw, Poland, 1. Ed. Bubnicki, Z.; Grzech, A. Wroclaw: Oficyna Wydawnicza Politechniki Wroclawskiej, 121−128.
3.4.1998
Kotta, Ü. (1998). Removing input derivatives in generalized state-space systems: A linear algebraic approach. 1998 4th International Conference on Actual Problems of Electronic Instrument Engineering Proceedings APEIE-98 : Novosibirsk, September 23-26, 1998, Vol.13. Novosibirsk: Novosibirsk State Technical University, 142−147.
3.4.1998
Kotta, Ü. (1998). State-space realization of nonlinear input-output difference equations. Computer Aided Education in Nonlinear Control: International Summer School : July 13-24, 1998, Ecole Centrale Nantes, 1. [Nantes], 165−172.
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (1999). Transfer equivalence and realization of nonlinear higher order input/output difference equations using Mathematica. Journal of Circuits, Systems and Computers, 9, 23−35.
3.1.1999
Kotta, Ü.; Liu, P.; Zinober, A.S.I. (1999). Transfer equivalence and realization of nonlinear higher order i/o difference equations using MAPLE. Proceedings of the 14th IFAC World Congress : 5 - 9 July 1999, Beijing, P.R.China, E. Ed. Chen, H.-F.; Cheng, D.-Z.; Zhang, J.-F. Oxford: Pergamon, 249−254. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 32-2).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)56403-4.
3.1.1999
Kotta, Ü. (1999). Towards a solution of the state-space realization problem of a set of multi-input multi-output nonlinear difference equations. European Control Conference ECC'99 : 31. August-3. September 1999, Karlsruhe, Germany, Conference Proceedings. Karlsruhe: IEEE, 2748−2753.
3.4.1999
Kotta, Ü. (1999). Input-output models for a class of nonlinear systems: questions and answers. The 7th Mediterranean Conference on Control & Automation (MED99) : Proceedings, June 28-30, 1999, Haifa, Israel. Tirat Carmel: OriGraph, 1254−1260.
6.7.1999
Kotta, Ülle (1999). Ülo Jaaksoo 60. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences. Physics. Mathematics, 48 (2), 153−154.
1.2.1998
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü. (1998). Equivalence of discrete-time nonlinear systems to prime systems (Summary). Journal of Mathematical Systems, Estimation, and Control, 8 (4), 471−474.
1.2.1998
Kotta, Ülle (1998). Inversion algorithm for recursive nonlinear systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 47 (1), 3−18.
3.1.1998
Kotta, Ü. (1998). Removing input derivatives in generalized state-space systems: A linear algebraic approach. 1998 4th International Conference on Actual Problems of Electronic Instrument Engineering Proceedings APEIE-98 : Novosibirsk, September 23-26, 1998, Vol.1. IEEE, 391−396.10.1109/APEIE.1998.768996.
3.1.1998
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (1998). Transfer equivalence and realization of nonlinear higher order i/o difference equations using Mathematica. IEEE APCCAS 1998 : the 1998 IEEE Asia-Pacific Conference on Circuits and Systems : Microelectronics and Integrating Systems : November 24-27, 1998, Chiangmai Plaza Hotel, Chiangmai, Thailand. Piscataway, N.J.: IEEE, 671−674.
3.1.1998
Kotta, Ü.; Liu, P.; Zinober, A. (1998). Transfer equivalence of nonlinear higher order difference equations. Nonlinear Control Systems Design 1998 (NOLCOS´98) : A Proceedings volume from the 4th IFAC Symposium, Entschende, The Netherlands, 1-3 July 1998, 1. Ed. Huijberts, H.J.S. et al. Oxford: Pergamon Press, 73−78. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 31-17).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)40313-2.
3.1.1998
Kotta, Ü. (1998). Lowering the order of input shifts in multi-input discrete-time generalized state-space systems. Proceedings of the 37th IEEE Conference on Decision and Control : December 16-18, 1998, Hyatt Regency Westshore, Tampa, Florida, USA, 4. Piscataway, N.J.: IEEE Control Systems Society, 4638−4639.
3.1.1998
Kotta, Ü. (1998). Lowering the orders of input shifts in discrete-time generalized state-space systems. System structure and control 1998 (SSC'98) : a proceedings volume from the 5th IFAC Conference, Nantes, France, 8-10 July 1998, 2. Ed. Lafay, J.F. Oxford: Pergamon, 727−732. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 31-18).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)42077-5.
3.1.1998
Kotta, Ü. (1998). Input-output decoupling of nonlinear recursive systems. Theory and practice of control and systems : proceedings of the 6th IEEE Mediterranean Conference : Alghero, Sardinia, Italy, 9-11 June 1998. Ed. Tornambe, A.; Conte, G.; Perdon, A.M. Singapore: World Scientific, 550−554.10.1142/9789814447317_0091.
3.4.1998
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (1998). Towards a symbolic computation toolbox for transforming a generalized state equations into a classical form. Proceedings of the 13th International Conference on Systems Science : Vol. 1. Plenary. Systems theory. Control theory. Systems engineering. Control engineering: 15-18 September 1998, Wroclaw, Poland, 1. Ed. Bubnicki, Z.; Grzech, A. Wroclaw: Oficyna Wydawnicza Politechniki Wroclawskiej, 121−128.
3.4.1998
Kotta, Ü. (1998). Removing input derivatives in generalized state-space systems: A linear algebraic approach. 1998 4th International Conference on Actual Problems of Electronic Instrument Engineering Proceedings APEIE-98 : Novosibirsk, September 23-26, 1998, Vol.13. Novosibirsk: Novosibirsk State Technical University, 142−147.
3.4.1998
Kotta, Ü. (1998). State-space realization of nonlinear input-output difference equations. Computer Aided Education in Nonlinear Control: International Summer School : July 13-24, 1998, Ecole Centrale Nantes, 1. [Nantes], 165−172.
29 April 2018 15:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1.1.2001
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü. (2001). Generalized controlled invariance for discrete-time nonlinear systems with an application to the dynamic disturbance decoupling problem. IEEE Transactions on Automatic Control, 46 (1), 165−171.10.1109/9.898712.
3.1.2001
Kotta, Ü.; Pawluszewicz, E.; Nõmm, S. (2001). Irreducibility and reduction of discrete-time nonlinear control systems: an alternative approach. System Structure and Control 2001 : a proceedings volume from the 1st IFAC/IEEE symposium, Prague, Czech Republic, 27-31 August 2001, 1. Ed. Horacek, P. New York: Pergamon, 357−362. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 34-13).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)39016-X.
3.1.2001
Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S.; Zinober, A.S.I. (2001). On realizability of input-output bilinear models. Proceedings of the 3rd International Conference on Control Theory and Applications: Pretoria, South Africa, December 12-14, 2001. IEEE, 221−225.
3.1.2001
Pearson, R.K.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S. (2001). A subclass of realizable NARMA models. Proceedings of the 3rd International Conference on Control Theory and Applications: Pretoria, South Africa, December 12-14, 2001. IEEE, 226−230.
3.1.2001
Pearson, R.K.; Kotta, Ü. (2001). Associative dynamic models. System Structure and Control 2001 : a proceedings volume from the 1st IFAC/IEEE symposium, Prague, Czech Republic, 27-31 August 2001, 1. Ed. Horacek, P. New York: Pergamon, 401−406. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 34-13).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)39024-9.
1.1.2000
Kotta, Ü. (2000). Input-output decoupling of nonlinear recursive systems. Kybernetika, 36 (1), 43−51.
1.1.2000
Kotta, Ü. (2000). Comments on "On the discrete-time normal form". IEEE Transactions on Automatic Control, 45 (11), 2197−2197.
3.1.2000
Pothin, R.; Kotta, Ü.; Moog, C.H. (2000). Output feedback linearization of nonlinear discrete time systems. Control Systems Design (CSD2000) : a Proceedings Volume from the IFAC Conference, Bratislava, Slovak Republic, 18-20 June 2000. Ed. Kozak, Š.; Huba, M. New York: Pergamon, 181−186. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes ; 33-13).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)37187-2.
3.1.2000
Kotta, Ü. (2000). Irreducibility conditions for nonlinear input-output difference equations (Sydney, Australia). Proceedings of the 39th IEEE Conference on Decision and Control, 4. 3404−3408.
3.2.2000
Kotta, Ü. (2000). On decomposition of discrete-time nonlinear control systems. ICARCV 2000 : Intelligent Automation in New Millenium: Sixth International Conference on Control, Automation, Robotics and Vision : Conference proceedings, 5-8 December 2000, Marina Mandarin, Singapore. [Singapore], [1−5].
3.4.2000
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2000). On the implementation of a nonlinear realization algorithm using Mathematica. Control and Self-Organization in Nonlinear Systems: Proceedings of the First International Conference, 15-18 February 2000, Bialystok (Suprasl), Poland. Ed. Bartosiewicz, Z. Bialystok, 45−56.
3.4.2000
Kotta, Ü.; Sadegh, N. (2000). Two approaches for state space realization of NARMA models: Bridging the gap. Proceedings [of the] IMACS Symposium on Mathematical Modelling: 3rd MATHMOD : February 2-4, 2000, Vienna University of Technology, Austria, 1. Ed. Troch, I.; Breitenecker, F. Vienna: Vienna University of Technology, 415−419. (AGRESIM Report; No. 15).
3.4.2000
Chowdhury, F.N.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S. (2000). On realizability of neural networks-based input-output models. Theory and Practice of Differential Equations: Proceedings of the Third International Conference Differential equations and applications: Saint Petersburg, June 12-17, 2000. Saint Petersburg: Publ. House of St. Petersburg State Politechnical University, 47−51. (Mathematical Research; 6; ).
Aranda-Bricaire, E.; Kotta, Ü. (2001). Generalized controlled invariance for discrete-time nonlinear systems with an application to the dynamic disturbance decoupling problem. IEEE Transactions on Automatic Control, 46 (1), 165−171.10.1109/9.898712.
3.1.2001
Kotta, Ü.; Pawluszewicz, E.; Nõmm, S. (2001). Irreducibility and reduction of discrete-time nonlinear control systems: an alternative approach. System Structure and Control 2001 : a proceedings volume from the 1st IFAC/IEEE symposium, Prague, Czech Republic, 27-31 August 2001, 1. Ed. Horacek, P. New York: Pergamon, 357−362. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 34-13).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)39016-X.
3.1.2001
Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S.; Zinober, A.S.I. (2001). On realizability of input-output bilinear models. Proceedings of the 3rd International Conference on Control Theory and Applications: Pretoria, South Africa, December 12-14, 2001. IEEE, 221−225.
3.1.2001
Pearson, R.K.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S. (2001). A subclass of realizable NARMA models. Proceedings of the 3rd International Conference on Control Theory and Applications: Pretoria, South Africa, December 12-14, 2001. IEEE, 226−230.
3.1.2001
Pearson, R.K.; Kotta, Ü. (2001). Associative dynamic models. System Structure and Control 2001 : a proceedings volume from the 1st IFAC/IEEE symposium, Prague, Czech Republic, 27-31 August 2001, 1. Ed. Horacek, P. New York: Pergamon, 401−406. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 34-13).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)39024-9.
1.1.2000
Kotta, Ü. (2000). Input-output decoupling of nonlinear recursive systems. Kybernetika, 36 (1), 43−51.
1.1.2000
Kotta, Ü. (2000). Comments on "On the discrete-time normal form". IEEE Transactions on Automatic Control, 45 (11), 2197−2197.
3.1.2000
Pothin, R.; Kotta, Ü.; Moog, C.H. (2000). Output feedback linearization of nonlinear discrete time systems. Control Systems Design (CSD2000) : a Proceedings Volume from the IFAC Conference, Bratislava, Slovak Republic, 18-20 June 2000. Ed. Kozak, Š.; Huba, M. New York: Pergamon, 181−186. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes ; 33-13).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)37187-2.
3.1.2000
Kotta, Ü. (2000). Irreducibility conditions for nonlinear input-output difference equations (Sydney, Australia). Proceedings of the 39th IEEE Conference on Decision and Control, 4. 3404−3408.
3.2.2000
Kotta, Ü. (2000). On decomposition of discrete-time nonlinear control systems. ICARCV 2000 : Intelligent Automation in New Millenium: Sixth International Conference on Control, Automation, Robotics and Vision : Conference proceedings, 5-8 December 2000, Marina Mandarin, Singapore. [Singapore], [1−5].
3.4.2000
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2000). On the implementation of a nonlinear realization algorithm using Mathematica. Control and Self-Organization in Nonlinear Systems: Proceedings of the First International Conference, 15-18 February 2000, Bialystok (Suprasl), Poland. Ed. Bartosiewicz, Z. Bialystok, 45−56.
3.4.2000
Kotta, Ü.; Sadegh, N. (2000). Two approaches for state space realization of NARMA models: Bridging the gap. Proceedings [of the] IMACS Symposium on Mathematical Modelling: 3rd MATHMOD : February 2-4, 2000, Vienna University of Technology, Austria, 1. Ed. Troch, I.; Breitenecker, F. Vienna: Vienna University of Technology, 415−419. (AGRESIM Report; No. 15).
3.4.2000
Chowdhury, F.N.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S. (2000). On realizability of neural networks-based input-output models. Theory and Practice of Differential Equations: Proceedings of the Third International Conference Differential equations and applications: Saint Petersburg, June 12-17, 2000. Saint Petersburg: Publ. House of St. Petersburg State Politechnical University, 47−51. (Mathematical Research; 6; ).
29 April 2018 15:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1.1.2003
Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S.; Zinober, A. (2003). Classical state space realizability of input-output bilinear models. International Journal of Control, 76 (12), 1224−1232.
1.1.2003
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2003). Linear algebraic tools for discrete-time nonlinear control systems with Mathematica. Nonlinear and Adaptive Control, NCN4 2001. Ed. Zinober, A.; Owens, D. Berlin: Springer, 195−205. (Lecture Notes in Control and Information Sciences; 281).10.1007/3-540-45802-6_16.
1.1.2003
Wang, J; Kotta, U.; Mangan, S.; Wei, J. (2003). Tracking control of nonlinear pneumatic systems using input/output linearization by state feedback. Systems Science, 29 (1), 151−165.
3.1.2003
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T. (2003). Realization of nonlinear systems described by input/output differential equations: equivalence of different methods. ECC'03 : European Control Conference : 1-4 September 2003, Cambridge, UK. Stevenage, UK: IEE, 1141−1144.
3.1.2003
Moog, C.H.; Pothin, R.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S. (2003). Input-output decoupling of nonlinear discrete-time systems by static output feedback. Proceedings of the 15th IFAC World Congress : International Federation of Automatic Control, 21-26 July 2002, Barcelona, Spain. Vol N. Sliding Control, Nonlinear Discrete and Stochastic Systems. Ed. Camacho, E.F.; Basanez, L.; de la Puente, J.A. [Oxford]: Pergamon, 293−298. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 35-1).10.3182/20020721-6-ES-1901.01120.
3.1.2003
Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S.; Zinober, A.S.I. (2003). On state space realizability of bilinear systems described by higher order difference equations. Proceedings of the 42nd IEEE Conference on Decision and Control, Maui, Hawaii USA, December 9-12, 2003, 6. Piscataway, N.J.: IEEE Control Systems Society, 5685−5690.
3.1.2003
Kotta, Ü.; Pawluszewicz, E.; Nõmm, S. (2003). Reducibility and reduction of discrete-time nonlinear control systems: comparison of two approaches. PhysCon 2003 : International Conference "Physics and Control" proceedings, Saint Petersburg, Russia, August 20-22, 2003, 4. Ed. Fradkov, A.L.; Churilov, A.N. Piscataway, N.J.: IEEE, 1261−1266.10.1109/PHYCON.2003.1237089.
3.2.2003
Mullari, T.; Kotta, Ü. (2003). Simplification of the generalized state equations. Proceedings : 4th MATHMOD Vienna : 4th IMACS Symposium on Mathematical Modelling, February 5-7, 2003, Vienna University of Technology, Austria.Vol.2 : Full papers CD, 2. Ed. Troch,I.; Breitenecker,F. Vienna: ARGESIM, 261−269. (ARGESIM Report no. 24 ).
3.4.2003
Moog, C.H.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S.; Tõnso, M. (2003). Extensions of linear algebraic methods to nonlinear systems: an educational perspective. Advances in Control Education - ACE 2003 : Preprints of the IFAC Symposium, 16-18 June 2003, Finland. Ed. Lindfors, J. Helsinki: Painopörssi Oy, 179−184.
3.4.2003
Wang, Jihong; Kotta, Ulle; Mangan, Stephen; Wei, Jianlin (2003). Tracking control of nonlinear pneumatic systems using input/output linearisation by state feedback. Coventry University Sixteenth International Conference on Systems Engineering. Vol. 2. Proceedings : 9-11 September 2003, Coventry University. Ed. Burnham, Keith J.; Haas, Oliver C.L. Coventry: Coventry University, 724−729.
1.1.2002
Pearson, R.K.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S. (2002). Systems with associative dynamics. Kybernetika, 38 (5), 585−600.
1.1.2002
Kotta, Ü.; Sadegh, N. (2002). Two approaches for state space realization of NARMA models: Bridging the gap. Mathematical and Computer Modelling of Dynamical Systems, 8 (1), 21−32.
1.2.2002
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2002). Removing or lowering the orders of input shifts in discrete-time generalized state-space systems with Mathematica. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 51 (4), 238−254.
3.1.2002
Kotta, Ü. (2002). Controller and controllability canonical forms for discrete-time non-linear systems. Nonlinear Control Systems 2001 : (NOLCOS 2001) : a Proceedings Volume from the 5th IFAC Symposium : St. Petersburg, Russia, 4-6 July 2001. Ed. Kurzhanski, A.B.; Fradkov, A.L. Oxford: Elsevier, 391−394. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 34-6).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)35206-0.
3.1.2002
Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S.; Chowdhury, F.N. (2002). On a new type of neural-network-based input-output model: the ANARMA structure. Nonlinear Control Systems 2001 : (NOLCOS 2001) : a Proceedings Volume from the 5th IFAC Symposium, St.Petersburg, Russia, 4-6 July 2001. Ed. Kurzhanski, A.B.; Fradkov, A.L. Oxford: Elsevier, 1535−1538. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 34-6).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)35407-1.
3.4.2002
Moog, C.H.; Pothin, R.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S. (2002). Input-output decoupling of nonlinear discrete-time systems by static output feedback (Challenges of a new Millenium). Preprints of the 15th Triennial World Congress of the International Federation of Automatic Control : 21-26 July 2002, Barcelona, Spain. Ed. Camacho, E.F.; Basanez, L.; de la Puente, J.A. Oxford: Pergamon, [1−6].
Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S.; Zinober, A. (2003). Classical state space realizability of input-output bilinear models. International Journal of Control, 76 (12), 1224−1232.
1.1.2003
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2003). Linear algebraic tools for discrete-time nonlinear control systems with Mathematica. Nonlinear and Adaptive Control, NCN4 2001. Ed. Zinober, A.; Owens, D. Berlin: Springer, 195−205. (Lecture Notes in Control and Information Sciences; 281).10.1007/3-540-45802-6_16.
1.1.2003
Wang, J; Kotta, U.; Mangan, S.; Wei, J. (2003). Tracking control of nonlinear pneumatic systems using input/output linearization by state feedback. Systems Science, 29 (1), 151−165.
3.1.2003
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T. (2003). Realization of nonlinear systems described by input/output differential equations: equivalence of different methods. ECC'03 : European Control Conference : 1-4 September 2003, Cambridge, UK. Stevenage, UK: IEE, 1141−1144.
3.1.2003
Moog, C.H.; Pothin, R.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S. (2003). Input-output decoupling of nonlinear discrete-time systems by static output feedback. Proceedings of the 15th IFAC World Congress : International Federation of Automatic Control, 21-26 July 2002, Barcelona, Spain. Vol N. Sliding Control, Nonlinear Discrete and Stochastic Systems. Ed. Camacho, E.F.; Basanez, L.; de la Puente, J.A. [Oxford]: Pergamon, 293−298. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 35-1).10.3182/20020721-6-ES-1901.01120.
3.1.2003
Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S.; Zinober, A.S.I. (2003). On state space realizability of bilinear systems described by higher order difference equations. Proceedings of the 42nd IEEE Conference on Decision and Control, Maui, Hawaii USA, December 9-12, 2003, 6. Piscataway, N.J.: IEEE Control Systems Society, 5685−5690.
3.1.2003
Kotta, Ü.; Pawluszewicz, E.; Nõmm, S. (2003). Reducibility and reduction of discrete-time nonlinear control systems: comparison of two approaches. PhysCon 2003 : International Conference "Physics and Control" proceedings, Saint Petersburg, Russia, August 20-22, 2003, 4. Ed. Fradkov, A.L.; Churilov, A.N. Piscataway, N.J.: IEEE, 1261−1266.10.1109/PHYCON.2003.1237089.
3.2.2003
Mullari, T.; Kotta, Ü. (2003). Simplification of the generalized state equations. Proceedings : 4th MATHMOD Vienna : 4th IMACS Symposium on Mathematical Modelling, February 5-7, 2003, Vienna University of Technology, Austria.Vol.2 : Full papers CD, 2. Ed. Troch,I.; Breitenecker,F. Vienna: ARGESIM, 261−269. (ARGESIM Report no. 24 ).
3.4.2003
Moog, C.H.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S.; Tõnso, M. (2003). Extensions of linear algebraic methods to nonlinear systems: an educational perspective. Advances in Control Education - ACE 2003 : Preprints of the IFAC Symposium, 16-18 June 2003, Finland. Ed. Lindfors, J. Helsinki: Painopörssi Oy, 179−184.
3.4.2003
Wang, Jihong; Kotta, Ulle; Mangan, Stephen; Wei, Jianlin (2003). Tracking control of nonlinear pneumatic systems using input/output linearisation by state feedback. Coventry University Sixteenth International Conference on Systems Engineering. Vol. 2. Proceedings : 9-11 September 2003, Coventry University. Ed. Burnham, Keith J.; Haas, Oliver C.L. Coventry: Coventry University, 724−729.
1.1.2002
Pearson, R.K.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S. (2002). Systems with associative dynamics. Kybernetika, 38 (5), 585−600.
1.1.2002
Kotta, Ü.; Sadegh, N. (2002). Two approaches for state space realization of NARMA models: Bridging the gap. Mathematical and Computer Modelling of Dynamical Systems, 8 (1), 21−32.
1.2.2002
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2002). Removing or lowering the orders of input shifts in discrete-time generalized state-space systems with Mathematica. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 51 (4), 238−254.
3.1.2002
Kotta, Ü. (2002). Controller and controllability canonical forms for discrete-time non-linear systems. Nonlinear Control Systems 2001 : (NOLCOS 2001) : a Proceedings Volume from the 5th IFAC Symposium : St. Petersburg, Russia, 4-6 July 2001. Ed. Kurzhanski, A.B.; Fradkov, A.L. Oxford: Elsevier, 391−394. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 34-6).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)35206-0.
3.1.2002
Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S.; Chowdhury, F.N. (2002). On a new type of neural-network-based input-output model: the ANARMA structure. Nonlinear Control Systems 2001 : (NOLCOS 2001) : a Proceedings Volume from the 5th IFAC Symposium, St.Petersburg, Russia, 4-6 July 2001. Ed. Kurzhanski, A.B.; Fradkov, A.L. Oxford: Elsevier, 1535−1538. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 34-6).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)35407-1.
3.4.2002
Moog, C.H.; Pothin, R.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S. (2002). Input-output decoupling of nonlinear discrete-time systems by static output feedback (Challenges of a new Millenium). Preprints of the 15th Triennial World Congress of the International Federation of Automatic Control : 21-26 July 2002, Barcelona, Spain. Ed. Camacho, E.F.; Basanez, L.; de la Puente, J.A. Oxford: Pergamon, [1−6].
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1.1.2004
Kotta, Ü.; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Nõmm, S. (2004). Generalization of transfer equivalence for discrete-time non-linear systems: comparison of two definitions. International Journal of Control, 77 (8), 741−747.
1.1.2004
Pearson, R.K.; Kotta, Ü. (2004). Nonlinear discrete-time models: state-space vs. I/O representations. Journal of Process Control, 14 (5), 533−538.
1.1.2004
Aranda-Bricaire, Eduardo; Kotta, Ülle (2004). A geometric solution to the dynamic disturbance decoupling for discrete-time nonlinear systems. Kybernetika, 40 (2), 197−206.
3.1.2004
Moog, C.H.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S.; Tõnso, M. (2004). Extensions of linear algebraic methods to nonlinear systems: an educational perspective. Advances in Control Education 2003 (ACE 2003) : A proceedings volume from the 6th IFAC Symposium, Oulu, Finland, 16 - 18 June 2003. Ed. Lindfors, Juha. Oxford: Elsevier, 153−158. (IFAC proceedings volumes; 36-10).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)33671-6.
3.4.2004
Bartosiewicz, Z.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S.; Pawluszewicz, E. (2004). Input-output equivalence transformations for discrete-time nonlinear systems. 2nd IFAC Symposium on System, Structure and Control, SSSC 2004, December 8-10, 2004, Oaxaca, Mexico, [preprints]. 706−711.
3.4.2004
Nõmm, S.; Moog, C.H.; Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2004). Realization of nonlinear discrete-time composite systems. 2nd IFAC Symposium on System, Structure and Control, SSSC 2004, December 8-10, 2004, Oaxaca, Mexico, [preprints]. 712−717.
3.4.2004
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2004). Irreducibility conditions for discrete-time nonlinear multi-input multi-output systems. NOLCOS 2004 : 6th IFAC-Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, September 01-03, 2004, Stuttgart, Germany, preprints. Stuttgart: Universität Stuttgart, 269−274.
4.2.2004
(2004). Institute of Cybernetics at TUT : activity report 2000-2003. In: Kotta, Ülle; Kutser, Mati; Salupere, Andrus (Ed.). .. Tallinn: Institute of Cybernetics.
Kotta, Ü.; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Nõmm, S. (2004). Generalization of transfer equivalence for discrete-time non-linear systems: comparison of two definitions. International Journal of Control, 77 (8), 741−747.
1.1.2004
Pearson, R.K.; Kotta, Ü. (2004). Nonlinear discrete-time models: state-space vs. I/O representations. Journal of Process Control, 14 (5), 533−538.
1.1.2004
Aranda-Bricaire, Eduardo; Kotta, Ülle (2004). A geometric solution to the dynamic disturbance decoupling for discrete-time nonlinear systems. Kybernetika, 40 (2), 197−206.
3.1.2004
Moog, C.H.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S.; Tõnso, M. (2004). Extensions of linear algebraic methods to nonlinear systems: an educational perspective. Advances in Control Education 2003 (ACE 2003) : A proceedings volume from the 6th IFAC Symposium, Oulu, Finland, 16 - 18 June 2003. Ed. Lindfors, Juha. Oxford: Elsevier, 153−158. (IFAC proceedings volumes; 36-10).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)33671-6.
3.4.2004
Bartosiewicz, Z.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S.; Pawluszewicz, E. (2004). Input-output equivalence transformations for discrete-time nonlinear systems. 2nd IFAC Symposium on System, Structure and Control, SSSC 2004, December 8-10, 2004, Oaxaca, Mexico, [preprints]. 706−711.
3.4.2004
Nõmm, S.; Moog, C.H.; Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2004). Realization of nonlinear discrete-time composite systems. 2nd IFAC Symposium on System, Structure and Control, SSSC 2004, December 8-10, 2004, Oaxaca, Mexico, [preprints]. 712−717.
3.4.2004
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2004). Irreducibility conditions for discrete-time nonlinear multi-input multi-output systems. NOLCOS 2004 : 6th IFAC-Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, September 01-03, 2004, Stuttgart, Germany, preprints. Stuttgart: Universität Stuttgart, 269−274.
4.2.2004
(2004). Institute of Cybernetics at TUT : activity report 2000-2003. In: Kotta, Ülle; Kutser, Mati; Salupere, Andrus (Ed.). .. Tallinn: Institute of Cybernetics.
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1.1.2006
Mullari, T.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S.; Tõnso, M. (2006). Realization of nonlinear composite systems. Control and Cybernetics, 35 (4), 905−922.
1.1.2006
Mullari, T.; Kotta, Ü. (2006). Simplification of the generalized state equations. Kybernetika, 42 (5), 617−628.
1.1.2006
Kotta, Ü.; Chowdhury, F.N.; Nõmm, S. (2006). On realizability of neural networks-based input-output models in the classical state-space form. Automatica, 42 (7), 1211−1216.
1.2.2006
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Pawluszewicz, Ewa (2006). Equivalence of linear control systems on time scales. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 55 (1), 43−52.
1.2.2006
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T. (2006). Equivalence of realizability conditions for nonlinear control systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 55 (1), 24−42.
3.1.2006
Kotta, Ülle; Mullari, Tanel (2006). Equivalence of different realizability conditions for nonlinear MIMO differential equations. Proceedings of the 16th IFAC World Congress : Prague, Czech Republic, July 3-8, 2005. Ed. Zitek, Pavel. [Oxford]: Elsevier, 133−138. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 38-1).10.3182/20050703-6-CZ-1902.00676.
3.1.2006
Petlenkov, Eduard; Nõmm, Sven; Kotta, Ülle. (2006). Neural networks based ANARX structure for identification and model based control. 2006 9th International Conference on Control, Automation, Robotics and Vision : [Proceedings], 5-8 December 2006, Singapore. Singapore: IEEE, 2284−2288.
3.1.2006
Tabun, J.; Nõmm, S.; Kotta, Ü.; Moog, C. (2006). Verification of the identifiability property for nonlinear control systems with computer algebra system Mathematica. 14th Mediterranean Conference on Control and Automation : Ancona, Italy - June, 28-30 2006. [S.l.]: IEEE; Mediterranean Control Association, 6 p.10.1109/MED.2006.328812.
3.1.2006
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Kotta, P.; Zinober, A.S.I. (2006). On classical state space realizability of bilinear input-output differential equations. 14th Mediterranean Conference on Control and Automation : Ancona, Italy - June, 28-30 2006. [S.l.]: IEEE; Mediterranean Control Association, 6 p.10.1109/MED.2006.328729.
3.1.2006
Kotta, Ülle; Kotta, Palle; Nõmm, Sven; Tõnso, Maris (2006). Irreducibility conditions for continuous-time multi-input multi-output nonlinear systems. 2006 9th International Conference on Control, Automation, Robotics and Vision : [proceedings], 5-8 December 2006, Singapore. Singapore: IEEE, 807−811.
3.1.2006
Nõmm, S.; Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2006). Realization of nonlinear discrete-time composite systems: computational aspects. Proceedings of the 16th IFAC World Congress : Prague, Czech Republic, July 3-8, 2005. Ed. Zitek, Pavel. [Oxford]: Elsevier, 139−144. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 38-1).10.3182/20050703-6-CZ-1902.00677.
3.2.2006
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Zinober, A.S.I.; Kotta, P. (2006). On state space realization of bilinear input-output differential equations. Proceedings 5th MATHMOD Vienna : 5th Vienna Symposium on Mathematical Modelling, February 8-10, 2006, Vienna University of Technology, Austria.Volume 2 : Full Papers CD. Ed. Troch,I.; Breitenecker,F. Vienna: ARGESIM-Verlag, 1-1−1-10. (ARGESIM Report; 30).
5.2.2006
Petlenkov, E.; Nõmm, S.; Kotta, Ü. (2006). Adaptive output feedback linearization for a class of NN-based ANARX models. 5th Junior European Meeting on Control & Information Technology : book of abstracts: 5th Junior European Meeting on Control & Information Technology, Tallinn (Estonia), September 20-22 2006. Ed. Leibak, A.; Nõmm, S. Tallinn: Tallinn University of Technology, 10.
5.2.2006
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Zinober, A.S.I.; Kotta, P. (2006). On state space realization of bilinear input-output differential equations. Proceedings 5th MATHMOD Vienna : 5th Vienna Symposium on Mathematical Modelling, February 8-10, 2006, Vienna University of Technology, Austria.Volume 1 : Abstract Volume. Ed. Troch,I.; Breitenecker,F. Vienna: ARGESIM-Verlag, 169. (ARGESIM Report; 30).
5.2.2006
Tabun, J.; Nõmm, S.; Kotta, Ü.; Moog, C.H. (2006). Identifiability on nonlinear systems : computational aspects. Proceedings 5th MATHMOD Vienna : 5th Vienna Symposium on Mathematical Modelling, February 8-10, 2006, Vienna University of Technology, Austria.Volume 1 : Abstract Volume. Ed. Troch, I.; Breitenecker, F. Vienna: ARGESIM-Verlag, 341. (ARGESIM Report; 30).
1.1.2005
Kotta, U.; Mullari, T. (2005). Equivalence of different realization methods for higher order nonlinear input-output differential equations. European Journal of Control, 11 (3), 185−193.10.3166/ejc.11.185-193.
1.2.2005
Kotta, Ülle (2005). Controller and controllability canonical forms for discrete-time nonlinear systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 54 (1), 55−62.
1.2.2005
Kotta, Ülle (2005). Decomposition of discrete-time nonlinear control systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 54 (3), 154−161.
3.1.2005
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2005). Irreducibility conditions for discrete-time nonlinear multi-input multi-output systems. Nonlinear Control Systems 2004 (NOLCOS 2004): A Proceedings volume from the 6th IFAC Symposium, Stuttgart, Germany, 1-3 September 2004, 1. Ed. Allgöwer, F.; Zeitz, M. Oxford: Elsevier, 255−260. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 37-13).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)31232-6.
3.1.2005
Moog, C.H.; Kotta, Ü. (2005). Equivalence to a (strict) feedforward form of nonlinear discrete-time single-input control systems. Proceedings of the 44th IEEE Conference on Decision and Control, and the European Control Conference 2005 : Seville, Spain, December 12-15, 2005. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE Control Systems Society, 8018−8021.10.1109/CDC.2005.1583459.
3.1.2005
Bartosiewicz, Z.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S.; Pawluszewicz, E. (2005). Input-output equivalence transformations for discrete-time nonlinear systems. System, structure and control 2004 : a proceedings volume from the 2nd IFAC Symposium, Oaxaca, Mexico, 8-10 December 2004. Ed. Mondié, Sabine. Oxford: Elsevier, 657−662. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 37-21).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)30545-1.
3.1.2005
Nõmm, S.; Moog, C.H.; Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2005). Realization of nonlinear discrete-time composite systems. System, structure and control 2004 : a proceedings volume from the 2nd IFAC Symposium, Oaxaca, Mexico, 8-10 December 2004. Ed. Mondié, Sabine. Oxford: Elsevier, 663−668. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 37-21).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)30546-3.
3.2.2005
Bartosiewicz, Z.; Kotta, Ü.; Pawluszewicz, E. (2005). Input-output and transfer equivalence of linear control systems on time scales. Proceedings of the 11th IEEE International Conference on Methods and Models in Automation and Robotics : 29 August - 1 September 2005, Miedzyzdroje, Poland. Ed. Domek,S.; Kaszynski,R. Szczecin: PPH Zapol, 287−291.
3.4.2005
Nõmm, S.; Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2005). Realization of nonlinear discrete-time composite systems: computational aspects. Preprints of the 16th IFAC World Congress : Prague, Czech Republic, July 3-8, 2005. Ed. Horacek,P.; Simandl,M.; Zitek,P. Praha, [1−6].
3.4.2005
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T. (2005). Equivalence of different realizability conditions for nonlinear MIMO differential equations. Preprints of the 16th IFAC World Congress : Prague, Czech Republic, July 3-8, 2005. Ed. Horacek,P.; Simandl,M.; Zitek,P. Praha: IFAC, 6 p.
6.6.2005
Kotta, Ülle (2005). Kahe doktorikraadi omanik Sven Nõmm. Tallinna Tehnikaülikooli aastaraamat 2004, 123−124.
Mullari, T.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S.; Tõnso, M. (2006). Realization of nonlinear composite systems. Control and Cybernetics, 35 (4), 905−922.
1.1.2006
Mullari, T.; Kotta, Ü. (2006). Simplification of the generalized state equations. Kybernetika, 42 (5), 617−628.
1.1.2006
Kotta, Ü.; Chowdhury, F.N.; Nõmm, S. (2006). On realizability of neural networks-based input-output models in the classical state-space form. Automatica, 42 (7), 1211−1216.
1.2.2006
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Pawluszewicz, Ewa (2006). Equivalence of linear control systems on time scales. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 55 (1), 43−52.
1.2.2006
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T. (2006). Equivalence of realizability conditions for nonlinear control systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 55 (1), 24−42.
3.1.2006
Kotta, Ülle; Mullari, Tanel (2006). Equivalence of different realizability conditions for nonlinear MIMO differential equations. Proceedings of the 16th IFAC World Congress : Prague, Czech Republic, July 3-8, 2005. Ed. Zitek, Pavel. [Oxford]: Elsevier, 133−138. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 38-1).10.3182/20050703-6-CZ-1902.00676.
3.1.2006
Petlenkov, Eduard; Nõmm, Sven; Kotta, Ülle. (2006). Neural networks based ANARX structure for identification and model based control. 2006 9th International Conference on Control, Automation, Robotics and Vision : [Proceedings], 5-8 December 2006, Singapore. Singapore: IEEE, 2284−2288.
3.1.2006
Tabun, J.; Nõmm, S.; Kotta, Ü.; Moog, C. (2006). Verification of the identifiability property for nonlinear control systems with computer algebra system Mathematica. 14th Mediterranean Conference on Control and Automation : Ancona, Italy - June, 28-30 2006. [S.l.]: IEEE; Mediterranean Control Association, 6 p.10.1109/MED.2006.328812.
3.1.2006
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Kotta, P.; Zinober, A.S.I. (2006). On classical state space realizability of bilinear input-output differential equations. 14th Mediterranean Conference on Control and Automation : Ancona, Italy - June, 28-30 2006. [S.l.]: IEEE; Mediterranean Control Association, 6 p.10.1109/MED.2006.328729.
3.1.2006
Kotta, Ülle; Kotta, Palle; Nõmm, Sven; Tõnso, Maris (2006). Irreducibility conditions for continuous-time multi-input multi-output nonlinear systems. 2006 9th International Conference on Control, Automation, Robotics and Vision : [proceedings], 5-8 December 2006, Singapore. Singapore: IEEE, 807−811.
3.1.2006
Nõmm, S.; Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2006). Realization of nonlinear discrete-time composite systems: computational aspects. Proceedings of the 16th IFAC World Congress : Prague, Czech Republic, July 3-8, 2005. Ed. Zitek, Pavel. [Oxford]: Elsevier, 139−144. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 38-1).10.3182/20050703-6-CZ-1902.00677.
3.2.2006
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Zinober, A.S.I.; Kotta, P. (2006). On state space realization of bilinear input-output differential equations. Proceedings 5th MATHMOD Vienna : 5th Vienna Symposium on Mathematical Modelling, February 8-10, 2006, Vienna University of Technology, Austria.Volume 2 : Full Papers CD. Ed. Troch,I.; Breitenecker,F. Vienna: ARGESIM-Verlag, 1-1−1-10. (ARGESIM Report; 30).
5.2.2006
Petlenkov, E.; Nõmm, S.; Kotta, Ü. (2006). Adaptive output feedback linearization for a class of NN-based ANARX models. 5th Junior European Meeting on Control & Information Technology : book of abstracts: 5th Junior European Meeting on Control & Information Technology, Tallinn (Estonia), September 20-22 2006. Ed. Leibak, A.; Nõmm, S. Tallinn: Tallinn University of Technology, 10.
5.2.2006
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Zinober, A.S.I.; Kotta, P. (2006). On state space realization of bilinear input-output differential equations. Proceedings 5th MATHMOD Vienna : 5th Vienna Symposium on Mathematical Modelling, February 8-10, 2006, Vienna University of Technology, Austria.Volume 1 : Abstract Volume. Ed. Troch,I.; Breitenecker,F. Vienna: ARGESIM-Verlag, 169. (ARGESIM Report; 30).
5.2.2006
Tabun, J.; Nõmm, S.; Kotta, Ü.; Moog, C.H. (2006). Identifiability on nonlinear systems : computational aspects. Proceedings 5th MATHMOD Vienna : 5th Vienna Symposium on Mathematical Modelling, February 8-10, 2006, Vienna University of Technology, Austria.Volume 1 : Abstract Volume. Ed. Troch, I.; Breitenecker, F. Vienna: ARGESIM-Verlag, 341. (ARGESIM Report; 30).
1.1.2005
Kotta, U.; Mullari, T. (2005). Equivalence of different realization methods for higher order nonlinear input-output differential equations. European Journal of Control, 11 (3), 185−193.10.3166/ejc.11.185-193.
1.2.2005
Kotta, Ülle (2005). Controller and controllability canonical forms for discrete-time nonlinear systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 54 (1), 55−62.
1.2.2005
Kotta, Ülle (2005). Decomposition of discrete-time nonlinear control systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 54 (3), 154−161.
3.1.2005
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2005). Irreducibility conditions for discrete-time nonlinear multi-input multi-output systems. Nonlinear Control Systems 2004 (NOLCOS 2004): A Proceedings volume from the 6th IFAC Symposium, Stuttgart, Germany, 1-3 September 2004, 1. Ed. Allgöwer, F.; Zeitz, M. Oxford: Elsevier, 255−260. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 37-13).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)31232-6.
3.1.2005
Moog, C.H.; Kotta, Ü. (2005). Equivalence to a (strict) feedforward form of nonlinear discrete-time single-input control systems. Proceedings of the 44th IEEE Conference on Decision and Control, and the European Control Conference 2005 : Seville, Spain, December 12-15, 2005. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE Control Systems Society, 8018−8021.10.1109/CDC.2005.1583459.
3.1.2005
Bartosiewicz, Z.; Kotta, Ü.; Nõmm, S.; Pawluszewicz, E. (2005). Input-output equivalence transformations for discrete-time nonlinear systems. System, structure and control 2004 : a proceedings volume from the 2nd IFAC Symposium, Oaxaca, Mexico, 8-10 December 2004. Ed. Mondié, Sabine. Oxford: Elsevier, 657−662. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 37-21).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)30545-1.
3.1.2005
Nõmm, S.; Moog, C.H.; Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2005). Realization of nonlinear discrete-time composite systems. System, structure and control 2004 : a proceedings volume from the 2nd IFAC Symposium, Oaxaca, Mexico, 8-10 December 2004. Ed. Mondié, Sabine. Oxford: Elsevier, 663−668. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 37-21).10.1016/S1474-6670(17)30546-3.
3.2.2005
Bartosiewicz, Z.; Kotta, Ü.; Pawluszewicz, E. (2005). Input-output and transfer equivalence of linear control systems on time scales. Proceedings of the 11th IEEE International Conference on Methods and Models in Automation and Robotics : 29 August - 1 September 2005, Miedzyzdroje, Poland. Ed. Domek,S.; Kaszynski,R. Szczecin: PPH Zapol, 287−291.
3.4.2005
Nõmm, S.; Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2005). Realization of nonlinear discrete-time composite systems: computational aspects. Preprints of the 16th IFAC World Congress : Prague, Czech Republic, July 3-8, 2005. Ed. Horacek,P.; Simandl,M.; Zitek,P. Praha, [1−6].
3.4.2005
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T. (2005). Equivalence of different realizability conditions for nonlinear MIMO differential equations. Preprints of the 16th IFAC World Congress : Prague, Czech Republic, July 3-8, 2005. Ed. Horacek,P.; Simandl,M.; Zitek,P. Praha: IFAC, 6 p.
6.6.2005
Kotta, Ülle (2005). Kahe doktorikraadi omanik Sven Nõmm. Tallinna Tehnikaülikooli aastaraamat 2004, 123−124.
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1.1.2007
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2007). Transfer functions of discrete-time nonlinear control systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences. Physics. Mathematics, 56 (4), 322−335.
1.1.2007
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Pawłuszewicz, Ewa; Wyrwas, Małgorzata (2007). Algebraic formalism of differential one-forms for nonlinear control systems on time scales. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences. Physics. Mathematics, 56 (3), 264−282.
1.1.2007
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Zinober, A.S.I.; Kotta, P. (2007). State space realization of bilinear continuous-time input-output equations. International Journal of Control, 80 (10), 1607−1615.10.1080/00207170701447106.
1.1.2007
Wang, Jihong; Kotta, Ülle; Ke, Jia (2007). Tracking control of nonlinear pneumatic actuator systems using static state feedback linearization of the input-output map. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 56 (1), 47−66.
1.3.2007
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Pearson, R. (2007). Design of observers for a class of nonlinear systems in associative observer form. AT&P journal PLUS, 2, 28−43.
3.1.2007
Casagrande, Daniele; Kotta, Ülle; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2007). State-space realization of nonlinear input-output delta differential equations on homogeneous time scales. 3rd IFAC Symposium on Power System, Structure and Control (2007).System, Structure and Control, Volume 3, Part 1. Ed. Frigeri, Alceu Heinke; Pereira, Carlos Eduardo. IFAC; Elsevier, 356−361. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 40-20).10.3182/20071017-3-BR-2923.00059.
3.1.2007
Kotta, Ü.; Kotta, P.; Tõnso, M.; Zinober, A.S.I. (2007). On classical state space realizability of quadratic input-output differential equations. 3rd IFAC Symposium on Power System, Structure and Control (2007).System, Structure and Control, Volume 3, Part 1. IFAC; Elsevier, 332−337. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 40-20).10.3182/20071017-3-BR-2923.00055.
3.1.2007
Rennik, Heli; Tõnso, Maris; Kotta, Ülle (2007). Webmathematica based tools for nonlinear control systems. ICINCO 2007 : Proceedings of the Fourth International Conference on Informatics in Control, Automation and Robotics, Volume SPSMC, Angers, France, May 9-12, 2007. Ed. Zaytoon, J.; Ferrier, J.-L.; Andrade Cetto, J.; Filipe, J. [S.l.]: INSTICC Press, 178−183.
3.1.2007
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2007). Irreducibility conditions for nonlinear input-output equations on homogeneous time scales. 7th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, NOLCOS 2007 : Pretoria, South Africa, 22-24 August, 2007. Ed. Xia, Xiaohua; Camisani-Calzolari, Fernando. IFAC; Elsevier, 705−710. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 40-12).10.3182/20070822-3-ZA-2920.00117.
3.1.2007
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2007). Pseudo-linear algebra: a powerful tool in unification of the study of nonlinear control systems. 7th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, NOLCOS 2007 : Pretoria, South Africa, 22-24 August, 2007. Ed. Xia, Xiaohua; Camisani-Calzolari, Fernando. IFAC; Elsevier, 711−716. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 40-12).10.3182/20070822-3-ZA-2920.00117.
3.1.2007
Mullari, T.; Kotta, Ü.; Kotta, P.; Tõnso, M.; Zinober, A.S.I. (2007). Generalized state equations for continuous-time bilinear input-output equations: removing the input derivatives. 7th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, NOLCOS 2007 : Pretoria, South Africa, 22-24 August, 2007. Ed. Xia, Xiaohua; Camisani-Calzolari, Fernando. IFAC; Elsevier, 899−704. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 40-12).10.3182/20070822-3-ZA-2920.00115.
3.1.2007
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2007). Extension of the concept of transfer function to discrete-time nonlinear control systems. ECC '07 European Control Conference : July 2-5, 2007, Kos, Greece, Proceedings. Kos, Greece: IEEE; EUCA, 5769−5776.
3.1.2007
Mullari, T.; Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2007). The connection between different static state feedback linearizability conditions of discrete time nonlinear control systems. ECC '07 European Control Conference : July 2-5, 2007, Kos, Greece, Proceedings. Kos, Greece: IEEE; EUCA, 4268−4275.
3.1.2007
Petlenkov, E.; Nõmm, S.; Kotta, Ü. (2007). Adaptive Output Feedback Linearization for a Class of NN-based ANARX Models. Proceedings of the 6th IEEE International Conference on Control and Automation: The 6th IEEE International Conference on Control and Automation, Guangzhou, China, May 30 – June 1, 2007. 3173−3178.10.1109/ICCA.2007.4376947.
3.4.2007
Nõmm, S.; Kotta, Ü.; Kaparin, V.; Tõnso, M.; Popovitš, J. (2007). Observability and identifiability of nonlinear control systems with computer algebra systems Mathematica and Maxima. Proceedings 16th International Conference Process Control 2007, Štrbské Pleso, Slovakia, June 11-14, 2007. Ed. Mikleš, J.; Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Štrbské Pleso: Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava, 139-1−139-7.
3.4.2007
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Pearson, R. (2007). Design of observers for a class of nonlinear systems in associative observer form. Proceedings 16th International Conference Process Control 2007, Štrbské Pleso, Slovakia, June 11-14, 2007. Ed. Mikleš, J.; Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Štrbské Pleso: Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava, 053-1−053-9.
5.2.2007
Kotta, Ülle; Kotta, Palle; Tõnso, Maris; Zinober, Alan S.I. (2007). On classical state space realizability of quadratic input-output differential equations. SSSC07 : 3rd IFAC Symposium on System, Structure and Control, Foz do Iguassu, Brazil, October 17th-19th, 2007. Final Program. Book of Abstracts. Ed. Frigeri, Alceu Heinke. Foz do Iguassu: UFRGS, 43.
5.2.2007
Casagrande, Daniele; Kotta, Ülle; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2007). State-space realization of nonlinear input-output delta differential equations on homogeneous time scales. SSSC07 : 3rd IFAC Symposium on System, Structure and Control, Foz do Iguassu, Brazil, October 17th-19th, 2007. Final Program. Book of Abstracts. Ed. Frigeri, Alceu Heinke. Foz do Iguassu: UFRGS, 44.
5.2.2007
Nõmm, S.; Kotta, Ü.; Kaparin, V.; Tõnso, M.; Popovitš, J. (2007). Observability and identifiability of nonlinear discrete-time systems with computer algebra systems Mathematica and Maxima. 16th International Conference on Process Control '07 : �trbské Pleso, High Tatras, Slovak Republic, June 11-14, 200, Summaries volume. Toim. Mikleš, J.; Fikar ,M.; Kvasnica, M. Štrbské Pleso: Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava, 44.
5.2.2007
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Pearson, R. (2007). Design of observers for a class of nonlinear systems in associative observer form. 16th International Conference on Process Control '07 : Štrbské Pleso, High Tatras, Slovak Republic, June 11-14, 200, Summaries volume. Ed. Mikleš, J.; Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Štrbské Pleso: Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava, 71.
5.2.2007
Mullari, Tanel; Kotta, Ülle; Tonso, Maris (2007). Equivalence of different static state feedback linearizability conditions of discrete time nonlinear control systems. ECC '07 European Control Conference 2007 : Final Program and Book of Abstracts, July 2-5, 2007, Kos, Greece. Kos, Greece: EUCA, 131.
5.2.2007
Halas, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2007). Extension of the concept of transfer function to discrete-time nonlinear control systems. ECC '07 European Control Conference 2007 : Final Program and Book of Abstracts, July 2-5, 2007, Kos, Greece. Kos, Greece: EUCA, 161.
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2007). Transfer functions of discrete-time nonlinear control systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences. Physics. Mathematics, 56 (4), 322−335.
1.1.2007
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Pawłuszewicz, Ewa; Wyrwas, Małgorzata (2007). Algebraic formalism of differential one-forms for nonlinear control systems on time scales. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences. Physics. Mathematics, 56 (3), 264−282.
1.1.2007
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Zinober, A.S.I.; Kotta, P. (2007). State space realization of bilinear continuous-time input-output equations. International Journal of Control, 80 (10), 1607−1615.10.1080/00207170701447106.
1.1.2007
Wang, Jihong; Kotta, Ülle; Ke, Jia (2007). Tracking control of nonlinear pneumatic actuator systems using static state feedback linearization of the input-output map. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences.Physics.Mathematics, 56 (1), 47−66.
1.3.2007
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Pearson, R. (2007). Design of observers for a class of nonlinear systems in associative observer form. AT&P journal PLUS, 2, 28−43.
3.1.2007
Casagrande, Daniele; Kotta, Ülle; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2007). State-space realization of nonlinear input-output delta differential equations on homogeneous time scales. 3rd IFAC Symposium on Power System, Structure and Control (2007).System, Structure and Control, Volume 3, Part 1. Ed. Frigeri, Alceu Heinke; Pereira, Carlos Eduardo. IFAC; Elsevier, 356−361. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 40-20).10.3182/20071017-3-BR-2923.00059.
3.1.2007
Kotta, Ü.; Kotta, P.; Tõnso, M.; Zinober, A.S.I. (2007). On classical state space realizability of quadratic input-output differential equations. 3rd IFAC Symposium on Power System, Structure and Control (2007).System, Structure and Control, Volume 3, Part 1. IFAC; Elsevier, 332−337. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 40-20).10.3182/20071017-3-BR-2923.00055.
3.1.2007
Rennik, Heli; Tõnso, Maris; Kotta, Ülle (2007). Webmathematica based tools for nonlinear control systems. ICINCO 2007 : Proceedings of the Fourth International Conference on Informatics in Control, Automation and Robotics, Volume SPSMC, Angers, France, May 9-12, 2007. Ed. Zaytoon, J.; Ferrier, J.-L.; Andrade Cetto, J.; Filipe, J. [S.l.]: INSTICC Press, 178−183.
3.1.2007
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2007). Irreducibility conditions for nonlinear input-output equations on homogeneous time scales. 7th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, NOLCOS 2007 : Pretoria, South Africa, 22-24 August, 2007. Ed. Xia, Xiaohua; Camisani-Calzolari, Fernando. IFAC; Elsevier, 705−710. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 40-12).10.3182/20070822-3-ZA-2920.00117.
3.1.2007
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2007). Pseudo-linear algebra: a powerful tool in unification of the study of nonlinear control systems. 7th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, NOLCOS 2007 : Pretoria, South Africa, 22-24 August, 2007. Ed. Xia, Xiaohua; Camisani-Calzolari, Fernando. IFAC; Elsevier, 711−716. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 40-12).10.3182/20070822-3-ZA-2920.00117.
3.1.2007
Mullari, T.; Kotta, Ü.; Kotta, P.; Tõnso, M.; Zinober, A.S.I. (2007). Generalized state equations for continuous-time bilinear input-output equations: removing the input derivatives. 7th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, NOLCOS 2007 : Pretoria, South Africa, 22-24 August, 2007. Ed. Xia, Xiaohua; Camisani-Calzolari, Fernando. IFAC; Elsevier, 899−704. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 40-12).10.3182/20070822-3-ZA-2920.00115.
3.1.2007
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2007). Extension of the concept of transfer function to discrete-time nonlinear control systems. ECC '07 European Control Conference : July 2-5, 2007, Kos, Greece, Proceedings. Kos, Greece: IEEE; EUCA, 5769−5776.
3.1.2007
Mullari, T.; Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2007). The connection between different static state feedback linearizability conditions of discrete time nonlinear control systems. ECC '07 European Control Conference : July 2-5, 2007, Kos, Greece, Proceedings. Kos, Greece: IEEE; EUCA, 4268−4275.
3.1.2007
Petlenkov, E.; Nõmm, S.; Kotta, Ü. (2007). Adaptive Output Feedback Linearization for a Class of NN-based ANARX Models. Proceedings of the 6th IEEE International Conference on Control and Automation: The 6th IEEE International Conference on Control and Automation, Guangzhou, China, May 30 – June 1, 2007. 3173−3178.10.1109/ICCA.2007.4376947.
3.4.2007
Nõmm, S.; Kotta, Ü.; Kaparin, V.; Tõnso, M.; Popovitš, J. (2007). Observability and identifiability of nonlinear control systems with computer algebra systems Mathematica and Maxima. Proceedings 16th International Conference Process Control 2007, Štrbské Pleso, Slovakia, June 11-14, 2007. Ed. Mikleš, J.; Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Štrbské Pleso: Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava, 139-1−139-7.
3.4.2007
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Pearson, R. (2007). Design of observers for a class of nonlinear systems in associative observer form. Proceedings 16th International Conference Process Control 2007, Štrbské Pleso, Slovakia, June 11-14, 2007. Ed. Mikleš, J.; Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Štrbské Pleso: Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava, 053-1−053-9.
5.2.2007
Kotta, Ülle; Kotta, Palle; Tõnso, Maris; Zinober, Alan S.I. (2007). On classical state space realizability of quadratic input-output differential equations. SSSC07 : 3rd IFAC Symposium on System, Structure and Control, Foz do Iguassu, Brazil, October 17th-19th, 2007. Final Program. Book of Abstracts. Ed. Frigeri, Alceu Heinke. Foz do Iguassu: UFRGS, 43.
5.2.2007
Casagrande, Daniele; Kotta, Ülle; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2007). State-space realization of nonlinear input-output delta differential equations on homogeneous time scales. SSSC07 : 3rd IFAC Symposium on System, Structure and Control, Foz do Iguassu, Brazil, October 17th-19th, 2007. Final Program. Book of Abstracts. Ed. Frigeri, Alceu Heinke. Foz do Iguassu: UFRGS, 44.
5.2.2007
Nõmm, S.; Kotta, Ü.; Kaparin, V.; Tõnso, M.; Popovitš, J. (2007). Observability and identifiability of nonlinear discrete-time systems with computer algebra systems Mathematica and Maxima. 16th International Conference on Process Control '07 : �trbské Pleso, High Tatras, Slovak Republic, June 11-14, 200, Summaries volume. Toim. Mikleš, J.; Fikar ,M.; Kvasnica, M. Štrbské Pleso: Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava, 44.
5.2.2007
Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Pearson, R. (2007). Design of observers for a class of nonlinear systems in associative observer form. 16th International Conference on Process Control '07 : Štrbské Pleso, High Tatras, Slovak Republic, June 11-14, 200, Summaries volume. Ed. Mikleš, J.; Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Štrbské Pleso: Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava, 71.
5.2.2007
Mullari, Tanel; Kotta, Ülle; Tonso, Maris (2007). Equivalence of different static state feedback linearizability conditions of discrete time nonlinear control systems. ECC '07 European Control Conference 2007 : Final Program and Book of Abstracts, July 2-5, 2007, Kos, Greece. Kos, Greece: EUCA, 131.
5.2.2007
Halas, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2007). Extension of the concept of transfer function to discrete-time nonlinear control systems. ECC '07 European Control Conference 2007 : Final Program and Book of Abstracts, July 2-5, 2007, Kos, Greece. Kos, Greece: EUCA, 161.
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3.1.2008
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2008). A polynomial approach to the synthesis of observers for nonlinear systems. 47th IEEE Conference on Decision and Control, December 9-11, 2008, Cancun, Mexico. [New York]: IEEE, 3571−3576.10.1109/CDC.2008.4738673.
3.1.2008
Kotta, Ü.; Leibak, A.; Halás, M. (2008). Non-commutative determinants in nonlinear control theory: preliminary ideas. ICARCV 2008 10th international Conference on Control, Automation, Robotics & Vision : 17-20 December 2008, Hanoi, Vietnam. Piscataway, N.J.: IEEE, 815−820.10.1109/ICARCV.2008.4795622.
3.1.2008
Kotta, Ü.; Kotta, P.; Halás, M. (2008). Irreducibility and reduction of nonlinear control systems: unification and extension via pseudo-linear algebra. ICARCV 2008 10th international Conference on Control, Automation, Robotics & Vision : 17-20 December 2008, Hanoi, Vietnam. Piscataway, N.J.: IEEE, 1039−1043.10.1109/ICARCV.2008.4795662.
3.1.2008
Casagrande, Daniele; Kotta, Ülle; Wyrwas, Malgorzata; Tõnso, Maris (2008). Transfer equivalence and reduction of nonlinear delta differential equations on homogeneous time scale. 2008 American Control Conference : Westin Seattle Hotel, Seattle, Washington, USA, June 11-13, 2008. New York: American Automatic Control Council, 5136−5141.10.1109/ACC.2008.4587309.
3.1.2008
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2008). Realization of discrete-time nonlinear input-output equations: polynomial approach. The 7th World Congress on Intelligent Control and Automation : WCICA'08 Proceedings and Digest Book : June 25 - 27, 2008, Chongqing, China. Ed. Luh, Peter B.; Li, Zushu; Wang, Zhidong; Li, Jun. IEEE, 529−534.10.1109/WCICA.2008.4592979.
3.1.2008
Mullari, Tanel; Kotta, Ülle (2008). Transformation of nonlinear control systems into the observer form: necessary conditions. Proceedings of the 16th Mediterranean Conference on Control and Automation, June 25-27, 2008, Ajaccio, Corscia, France. IEEE, 475−480.10.1109/MED.2008.4602068.
3.1.2008
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle; Moog, Claude H. (2008). Transfer function approach to the model matching problem of nonlinear systems. Proceedings of the 17th IFAC World Congress : Seoul, Korea, July 6-11, 2008. Ed. Chung, Myung Jin; Misra, Pradeep; Shim, Hyungbo. Seoul: IFAC, 15197−15202. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 41-2).10.3182/20080706-5-KR-1001.02570.
3.1.2008
Kotta, Ü.; Schlacher, K. (2008). Possible non-integrability of observable space for discrete-time nonlinear control systems. Proceedings of the 17th IFAC World Congress : Seoul, Korea, July 6-11, 2008. Ed. Chung, Myung Jin; Misra, Pradeep; Shim, Hyungbo. Seoul: IFAC; Elsevier, 9852−9856. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 41-2).10.3182/20080706-5-KR-1001.01667.
3.4.2008
Halás, Miroslav; Huba, Mikuláš; Kotta, Ülle (2008). Overview of transfer function formalism in nonlinear continuous-, discrete-time and time-delay systems. Kybernetika a Informatika : Medzinárodná konferencia SSKI, 10.-14.február 2008, ŽDIAR, Slovenská republika, conference preprints. Bratislava: Slovenská technická univerzita v Bratislave, 8 p.
3.4.2008
Belikov, J.; Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Nõmm, S.; Tõnso, M. (2008). Discretization of continuous-time nonlinear control systems with computer algebra system Mathematica. Kybernetika a Informatika : Medzinárodná konferencia SSKI, 10.-14.február 2008, ŽDIAR, Slovenská republika, conference preprints. Bratislava: Slovenská technická univerzita v Bratislave, 10 p.
3.4.2008
Kaparin, V.; Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Tõnso, M. (2008). Transformation of nonlinear control system into observer form with computer algebra system Mathematica. Kybernetika a Informatika : Medzinárodná konferencia SSKI, 10.-14.február 2008, ŽDIAR, Slovenská republika, conference preprints. Bratislava: Slovenská technická univerzita v Bratislave, 10 p.
3.5.2008
Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2008). Realization of nonlinear input-output equations using polynomial approach: preliminary ideas. Info- ja kommunikatsioonitehnoloogia doktorikooli IKTDK kolmanda aastakonverentsi artiklite kogumik : 25.-26.aprill 2008, Voore külalistemaja. Tallinn: Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, 21−24.
5.2.2008
Halás, Miroslav; Huba, Mikuláš; Kotta, Ülle (2008). Overview of transfer function formalism in nonlinear continuous-, discrete-time and time-delay systems. Medzinárodná konferencia Kybernetika a Informatika : Zborník Abstraktov, 10.-14.február 2008, Ždiar, Slovenská republika. Ed. Kozák, Štefan; Kozákova, Alena; Rosinová, Danica. Bratislava: Slovenská technická univerzita v Bratislave, 46−47.
5.2.2008
Kaparin, V.; Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Tõnso, M. (2008). Transformation of nonlinear control system into observer form with computer algebra system Mathematica. Medzinárodná konferencia Kybernetika a Informatika : Zborník Abstraktov, 10.-14.február 2008, Ždiar, Slovenská republika. Ed. Kozák, Štefan; Kozákova, Alena; Rosinová, Danica. Bratislava: Slovenská technická univerzita v Bratislave, 56−57.
5.2.2008
Belikov, J.; Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Nõmm, S.; Tõnso, M. (2008). Discretization of continuous-time nonlinear control systems with computer algebra system Mathematica. Medzinárodná konferencia Kybernetika a Informatika : Zborník Abstraktov, 10.-14.február 2008, Ždiar, Slovenská republika. Ed. Kozák, Štefan; Kozákova, Alena; Rosinová, Danica. Bratislava: Slovenská technická univerzita v Bratislave, 42−43.
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2008). A polynomial approach to the synthesis of observers for nonlinear systems. 47th IEEE Conference on Decision and Control, December 9-11, 2008, Cancun, Mexico. [New York]: IEEE, 3571−3576.10.1109/CDC.2008.4738673.
3.1.2008
Kotta, Ü.; Leibak, A.; Halás, M. (2008). Non-commutative determinants in nonlinear control theory: preliminary ideas. ICARCV 2008 10th international Conference on Control, Automation, Robotics & Vision : 17-20 December 2008, Hanoi, Vietnam. Piscataway, N.J.: IEEE, 815−820.10.1109/ICARCV.2008.4795622.
3.1.2008
Kotta, Ü.; Kotta, P.; Halás, M. (2008). Irreducibility and reduction of nonlinear control systems: unification and extension via pseudo-linear algebra. ICARCV 2008 10th international Conference on Control, Automation, Robotics & Vision : 17-20 December 2008, Hanoi, Vietnam. Piscataway, N.J.: IEEE, 1039−1043.10.1109/ICARCV.2008.4795662.
3.1.2008
Casagrande, Daniele; Kotta, Ülle; Wyrwas, Malgorzata; Tõnso, Maris (2008). Transfer equivalence and reduction of nonlinear delta differential equations on homogeneous time scale. 2008 American Control Conference : Westin Seattle Hotel, Seattle, Washington, USA, June 11-13, 2008. New York: American Automatic Control Council, 5136−5141.10.1109/ACC.2008.4587309.
3.1.2008
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2008). Realization of discrete-time nonlinear input-output equations: polynomial approach. The 7th World Congress on Intelligent Control and Automation : WCICA'08 Proceedings and Digest Book : June 25 - 27, 2008, Chongqing, China. Ed. Luh, Peter B.; Li, Zushu; Wang, Zhidong; Li, Jun. IEEE, 529−534.10.1109/WCICA.2008.4592979.
3.1.2008
Mullari, Tanel; Kotta, Ülle (2008). Transformation of nonlinear control systems into the observer form: necessary conditions. Proceedings of the 16th Mediterranean Conference on Control and Automation, June 25-27, 2008, Ajaccio, Corscia, France. IEEE, 475−480.10.1109/MED.2008.4602068.
3.1.2008
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle; Moog, Claude H. (2008). Transfer function approach to the model matching problem of nonlinear systems. Proceedings of the 17th IFAC World Congress : Seoul, Korea, July 6-11, 2008. Ed. Chung, Myung Jin; Misra, Pradeep; Shim, Hyungbo. Seoul: IFAC, 15197−15202. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 41-2).10.3182/20080706-5-KR-1001.02570.
3.1.2008
Kotta, Ü.; Schlacher, K. (2008). Possible non-integrability of observable space for discrete-time nonlinear control systems. Proceedings of the 17th IFAC World Congress : Seoul, Korea, July 6-11, 2008. Ed. Chung, Myung Jin; Misra, Pradeep; Shim, Hyungbo. Seoul: IFAC; Elsevier, 9852−9856. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 41-2).10.3182/20080706-5-KR-1001.01667.
3.4.2008
Halás, Miroslav; Huba, Mikuláš; Kotta, Ülle (2008). Overview of transfer function formalism in nonlinear continuous-, discrete-time and time-delay systems. Kybernetika a Informatika : Medzinárodná konferencia SSKI, 10.-14.február 2008, ŽDIAR, Slovenská republika, conference preprints. Bratislava: Slovenská technická univerzita v Bratislave, 8 p.
3.4.2008
Belikov, J.; Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Nõmm, S.; Tõnso, M. (2008). Discretization of continuous-time nonlinear control systems with computer algebra system Mathematica. Kybernetika a Informatika : Medzinárodná konferencia SSKI, 10.-14.február 2008, ŽDIAR, Slovenská republika, conference preprints. Bratislava: Slovenská technická univerzita v Bratislave, 10 p.
3.4.2008
Kaparin, V.; Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Tõnso, M. (2008). Transformation of nonlinear control system into observer form with computer algebra system Mathematica. Kybernetika a Informatika : Medzinárodná konferencia SSKI, 10.-14.február 2008, ŽDIAR, Slovenská republika, conference preprints. Bratislava: Slovenská technická univerzita v Bratislave, 10 p.
3.5.2008
Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2008). Realization of nonlinear input-output equations using polynomial approach: preliminary ideas. Info- ja kommunikatsioonitehnoloogia doktorikooli IKTDK kolmanda aastakonverentsi artiklite kogumik : 25.-26.aprill 2008, Voore külalistemaja. Tallinn: Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, 21−24.
5.2.2008
Halás, Miroslav; Huba, Mikuláš; Kotta, Ülle (2008). Overview of transfer function formalism in nonlinear continuous-, discrete-time and time-delay systems. Medzinárodná konferencia Kybernetika a Informatika : Zborník Abstraktov, 10.-14.február 2008, Ždiar, Slovenská republika. Ed. Kozák, Štefan; Kozákova, Alena; Rosinová, Danica. Bratislava: Slovenská technická univerzita v Bratislave, 46−47.
5.2.2008
Kaparin, V.; Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Tõnso, M. (2008). Transformation of nonlinear control system into observer form with computer algebra system Mathematica. Medzinárodná konferencia Kybernetika a Informatika : Zborník Abstraktov, 10.-14.február 2008, Ždiar, Slovenská republika. Ed. Kozák, Štefan; Kozákova, Alena; Rosinová, Danica. Bratislava: Slovenská technická univerzita v Bratislave, 56−57.
5.2.2008
Belikov, J.; Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Nõmm, S.; Tõnso, M. (2008). Discretization of continuous-time nonlinear control systems with computer algebra system Mathematica. Medzinárodná konferencia Kybernetika a Informatika : Zborník Abstraktov, 10.-14.február 2008, Ždiar, Slovenská republika. Ed. Kozák, Štefan; Kozákova, Alena; Rosinová, Danica. Bratislava: Slovenská technická univerzita v Bratislave, 42−43.
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1.1.2009
Tõnso, Maris; Rennik, Heli; Kotta, Ülle (2009). WebMathematica-based tools for discrete-time nonlinear control systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 58 (4), 224−240.10.3176/proc.2009.4.04.
1.1.2009
Mullari, Tanel; Kotta, Ülle; Kotta, Palle; Tõnso, Maris; Zinober, Alan S.I. (2009). Removing the input derivatives in the generalized bilinear state equations. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 58 (2), 98−107.10.3176/proc.2009.2.02.
1.1.2009
Kotta, Ülle; Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Wyrwas, Małgorzata (2009). Irreducibility, reduction and transfer equivalence of nonlinear input-output equations on homogeneous time scales. Systems & Control Letters, 58 (9), 646−651.10.1016/j.sysconle.2009.04.006.
1.1.2009
Kotta, Ü.; Kotta, P.; Tõnso, M.; Zinober, A.S.I. (2009). On classical state space realisability of quadratic input-output differential equations. International Journal of Control, 82 (7), 1212−1218.10.1080/00207170802460040.
1.1.2009
Mullari, Tanel; Kotta, Ülle (2009). Transformation the nonlinear system into the observer form: simplification and extension. European Journal of Control, 15 (2), 177−183.10.3166/ejc.15.177–183.
1.1.2009
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2009). A note on model matching for nonrealizable nonlinear systems. Archives of Control Sciences, 19 (LV) (4), 451−461.
1.2.2009
Halás, Miroslav; Huba, Mikuláš; Kotta, Ülle (2009). An overview of transfer function formalism for nonlinear systems. Journal of Cybernetics and Informatics, 8, 28−35.
3.1.2009
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2009). Necessary conditions for transformation the nonlinear control system into the observer form via state and output coordinate changes. 2009 IEEE International Conference on Control and Automation, Christchurch, New Zealand, December 9-11, 2009. IEEE,.
3.1.2009
Kotta, Ü.; Kotta, P.; Halás, M. (2009). Irreducibility and reduction of MIMO nonlinear control systems: unification and extension via pseudo-linear algebra. 2009 IEEE International Conference on Control and Automation, Christchurch, New Zealand, December 9-11, 2009. IEEE, 763−768.10.1109/ICCA.2009.5410610.
3.1.2009
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2009). Realization problem of SISO nonlinear systems: a transfer function approach. 2009 IEEE International Conference on Control and Automation, Christchurch, New Zealand, December 9-11, 2009. IEEE, 546−551.10.1109/ICCA.2009.5410527.
3.1.2009
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle; Li, Ziming; Wang, Huaifu; Yuan, Chunming (2009). Submersive rational difference systems and their accessibility. ISSAC 2009 : Proceedings of the 2009 International Symposium on Symbolic and Algebraic Computation, [KIAS, Seoul, Korea]. Ed. May, John P. New York, N.Y.: ACM, 175−182.10.1145/1576702.1576728.
3.1.2009
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2009). Differential rings associated with control systems on regular time scales. ECC'09, European Control Conference 2009 : 23-26 August - Budapest, Hungary, Proceedings. Ed. Keviczky, Laszlo; Bokor, Jozsef. Budapest: IEEE; EUCA, 242−247.
3.1.2009
Tõnso, Maris; Kotta, Ülle (2009). Realization of continuous-time nonlinear input-output equations: polynomial approach. Computer Aided Systems Theory - EUROCAST 2009 : 12th International Conference, Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, Spain, February 15-20, 2009, Revised Selected Papers. Ed. Moreno-D¡az, Roberto; Pichler, Franz; Quesada-Arencibia, Alexis. Berlin: Springer, 633−640. (Lecture Notes in Computer Science; 5717).10.1007/978-3-642-04772-5_82.
3.4.2009
Tõnso, M.; Rennik, H.; Belikov, J.; Kotta, Ü. (2009). WebMathematica based tools for continuous-time nonlinear control systems. Proceedings : 17th International Conference on Process Control 2009, Hotel Ban¡k, Štrbské Pleso, Slovakia, June 9 - 12, 2009. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava, 625−633.
3.4.2009
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2009). Model matching for nonlinear systems not having the state-space realization. Proceedings : 17th International Conference on Process Control 2009, Hotel Ban¡k, Štrbské Pleso, Slovakia, June 9 - 12, 2009. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava, 10−13.
5.2.2009
Tõnso, M.; Rennik, H.; Belikov, J.; Kotta, Ü. (2009). WebMathematica based tools for continuous-time nonlinear control systems. Summaries Volume : 17th International Conference on Process Control '09, Štrbské Pleso, High Tatras, Slovak Republik, June 9 - 12, 2009. Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava, 54.
5.2.2009
Tõnso, Maris; Kotta, Ülle (2009). Realization of continuous-time nonlinear input-output equations: polynomial approach. Twelve International Conference on Computer Aided Systems Theory EUROCAST 2009 : [Extended Abstracts]. Ed. Quesada-Arencibia, Alexis; Rodríques, José Carlos; Moreno-Díaz, Roberto jr.; Moreno-Díaz, Roberto. IUCTC Universidad de Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, 210−211.
Tõnso, Maris; Rennik, Heli; Kotta, Ülle (2009). WebMathematica-based tools for discrete-time nonlinear control systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 58 (4), 224−240.10.3176/proc.2009.4.04.
1.1.2009
Mullari, Tanel; Kotta, Ülle; Kotta, Palle; Tõnso, Maris; Zinober, Alan S.I. (2009). Removing the input derivatives in the generalized bilinear state equations. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 58 (2), 98−107.10.3176/proc.2009.2.02.
1.1.2009
Kotta, Ülle; Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Wyrwas, Małgorzata (2009). Irreducibility, reduction and transfer equivalence of nonlinear input-output equations on homogeneous time scales. Systems & Control Letters, 58 (9), 646−651.10.1016/j.sysconle.2009.04.006.
1.1.2009
Kotta, Ü.; Kotta, P.; Tõnso, M.; Zinober, A.S.I. (2009). On classical state space realisability of quadratic input-output differential equations. International Journal of Control, 82 (7), 1212−1218.10.1080/00207170802460040.
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Mullari, Tanel; Kotta, Ülle (2009). Transformation the nonlinear system into the observer form: simplification and extension. European Journal of Control, 15 (2), 177−183.10.3166/ejc.15.177–183.
1.1.2009
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2009). A note on model matching for nonrealizable nonlinear systems. Archives of Control Sciences, 19 (LV) (4), 451−461.
1.2.2009
Halás, Miroslav; Huba, Mikuláš; Kotta, Ülle (2009). An overview of transfer function formalism for nonlinear systems. Journal of Cybernetics and Informatics, 8, 28−35.
3.1.2009
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2009). Necessary conditions for transformation the nonlinear control system into the observer form via state and output coordinate changes. 2009 IEEE International Conference on Control and Automation, Christchurch, New Zealand, December 9-11, 2009. IEEE,.
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Kotta, Ü.; Kotta, P.; Halás, M. (2009). Irreducibility and reduction of MIMO nonlinear control systems: unification and extension via pseudo-linear algebra. 2009 IEEE International Conference on Control and Automation, Christchurch, New Zealand, December 9-11, 2009. IEEE, 763−768.10.1109/ICCA.2009.5410610.
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Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2009). Realization problem of SISO nonlinear systems: a transfer function approach. 2009 IEEE International Conference on Control and Automation, Christchurch, New Zealand, December 9-11, 2009. IEEE, 546−551.10.1109/ICCA.2009.5410527.
3.1.2009
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle; Li, Ziming; Wang, Huaifu; Yuan, Chunming (2009). Submersive rational difference systems and their accessibility. ISSAC 2009 : Proceedings of the 2009 International Symposium on Symbolic and Algebraic Computation, [KIAS, Seoul, Korea]. Ed. May, John P. New York, N.Y.: ACM, 175−182.10.1145/1576702.1576728.
3.1.2009
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2009). Differential rings associated with control systems on regular time scales. ECC'09, European Control Conference 2009 : 23-26 August - Budapest, Hungary, Proceedings. Ed. Keviczky, Laszlo; Bokor, Jozsef. Budapest: IEEE; EUCA, 242−247.
3.1.2009
Tõnso, Maris; Kotta, Ülle (2009). Realization of continuous-time nonlinear input-output equations: polynomial approach. Computer Aided Systems Theory - EUROCAST 2009 : 12th International Conference, Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, Spain, February 15-20, 2009, Revised Selected Papers. Ed. Moreno-D¡az, Roberto; Pichler, Franz; Quesada-Arencibia, Alexis. Berlin: Springer, 633−640. (Lecture Notes in Computer Science; 5717).10.1007/978-3-642-04772-5_82.
3.4.2009
Tõnso, M.; Rennik, H.; Belikov, J.; Kotta, Ü. (2009). WebMathematica based tools for continuous-time nonlinear control systems. Proceedings : 17th International Conference on Process Control 2009, Hotel Ban¡k, Štrbské Pleso, Slovakia, June 9 - 12, 2009. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava, 625−633.
3.4.2009
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2009). Model matching for nonlinear systems not having the state-space realization. Proceedings : 17th International Conference on Process Control 2009, Hotel Ban¡k, Štrbské Pleso, Slovakia, June 9 - 12, 2009. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava, 10−13.
5.2.2009
Tõnso, M.; Rennik, H.; Belikov, J.; Kotta, Ü. (2009). WebMathematica based tools for continuous-time nonlinear control systems. Summaries Volume : 17th International Conference on Process Control '09, Štrbské Pleso, High Tatras, Slovak Republik, June 9 - 12, 2009. Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava, 54.
5.2.2009
Tõnso, Maris; Kotta, Ülle (2009). Realization of continuous-time nonlinear input-output equations: polynomial approach. Twelve International Conference on Computer Aided Systems Theory EUROCAST 2009 : [Extended Abstracts]. Ed. Quesada-Arencibia, Alexis; Rodríques, José Carlos; Moreno-Díaz, Roberto jr.; Moreno-Díaz, Roberto. IUCTC Universidad de Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, 210−211.
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1.1.2010
Kotta, Ülle; Kotta, Palle; Halás, Miroslav (2010). Reduction and transfer equivalence of nonlinear control systems: unification and extension via pseudo-linear algebra. Kybernetika, 46 (5), 831−849.
1.1.2010
Kotta, Ülle; Mullari, Tanel (2010). Discussion on: "Unified approach to the problem of full decoupling via output feedback". European Journal of Control, 16 (4), 326−328.10.1016/S0947-3580(10)70660-9.
1.1.2010
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2010). Theorem on the differentiation of a composite function with a vector argument. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 59 (3), 195−200.10.3176/proc.2010.3.01.
1.1.2010
Casagrande, Daniele; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2010). Transfer equivalence and realization of nonlinear input-output delta-differential equations on homogeneous time scales. IEEE Transactions on Automatic Control, 55 (11), 2601−2606.10.1109/TAC.2010.2060251.
3.1.2010
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2010). Extension of the transfer function approach to the realization problem of nonlinear systems to discrete-time case. 8th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, University of Bologna, Italy, September 01-03, 2010. IFAC; Elsevier, 179−184. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 43-14).10.3182/20100901-3-IT-2016.00121.
3.1.2010
Kotta, Ülle; Rehak, Branislav; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2010). Reduction of MIMO nonlinear systems on homogeneous time scales. 8th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, University of Bologna, Italy, September 01-03, 2010. Bologna: IFAC; Elsevier, 1249−1254. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 43-14).10.3182/20100901-3-IT-2016.00007.
3.1.2010
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Palle; Kotta, Ülle (2010). Realizability of bilinear input/output difference equations: corrections and extensions. UKACC International Conference on CONTROL 2010 : Proceedings, 7 - 10 September 2010. Ed. Burnham, Keith J.; Ersanilli, Vincent E. Coventry, UK: IET, 138−143.10.1049/ic.2010.0270.
3.1.2010
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2010). Necessary and sufficient conditions in terms of differential-forms for linearization of the state equations up to input-output injections. UKACC International Conference on CONTROL 2010 : Proceedings, 7 - 10 September 2010. Ed. Burnham, Keith J.; Ersanilli, Vincent E. Coventry, UK: IET, 507−511.
3.2.2010
Casagrande, Daniele; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2010). Mathematica application for nonlinear control systems on time scales. Proceeding of the 2010 IRAST International Congress on Computer Applications and Computational Science (CACS 2010), 4-6 December 2010, Paramount Hotel, Singapore. Ed. Chellappan, S. [et al.]. Singapore: IRAST, 621−624.
3.2.2010
Belikov, J.; Kotta, Ü.; Leibak, A. (2010). Transformation of the transfer matrix of the nonlinear system into the Jacobson form. Proceeding of the 2010 IRAST International Congress on Computer Applications and Computational Science (CACS 2010), 4-6 December 2010, Paramount Hotel, Singapore. Ed. Chellappan, S. et al. Singapore: IRAST, 495−498.
Kotta, Ülle; Kotta, Palle; Halás, Miroslav (2010). Reduction and transfer equivalence of nonlinear control systems: unification and extension via pseudo-linear algebra. Kybernetika, 46 (5), 831−849.
1.1.2010
Kotta, Ülle; Mullari, Tanel (2010). Discussion on: "Unified approach to the problem of full decoupling via output feedback". European Journal of Control, 16 (4), 326−328.10.1016/S0947-3580(10)70660-9.
1.1.2010
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2010). Theorem on the differentiation of a composite function with a vector argument. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 59 (3), 195−200.10.3176/proc.2010.3.01.
1.1.2010
Casagrande, Daniele; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2010). Transfer equivalence and realization of nonlinear input-output delta-differential equations on homogeneous time scales. IEEE Transactions on Automatic Control, 55 (11), 2601−2606.10.1109/TAC.2010.2060251.
3.1.2010
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2010). Extension of the transfer function approach to the realization problem of nonlinear systems to discrete-time case. 8th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, University of Bologna, Italy, September 01-03, 2010. IFAC; Elsevier, 179−184. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 43-14).10.3182/20100901-3-IT-2016.00121.
3.1.2010
Kotta, Ülle; Rehak, Branislav; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2010). Reduction of MIMO nonlinear systems on homogeneous time scales. 8th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, University of Bologna, Italy, September 01-03, 2010. Bologna: IFAC; Elsevier, 1249−1254. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 43-14).10.3182/20100901-3-IT-2016.00007.
3.1.2010
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Palle; Kotta, Ülle (2010). Realizability of bilinear input/output difference equations: corrections and extensions. UKACC International Conference on CONTROL 2010 : Proceedings, 7 - 10 September 2010. Ed. Burnham, Keith J.; Ersanilli, Vincent E. Coventry, UK: IET, 138−143.10.1049/ic.2010.0270.
3.1.2010
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2010). Necessary and sufficient conditions in terms of differential-forms for linearization of the state equations up to input-output injections. UKACC International Conference on CONTROL 2010 : Proceedings, 7 - 10 September 2010. Ed. Burnham, Keith J.; Ersanilli, Vincent E. Coventry, UK: IET, 507−511.
3.2.2010
Casagrande, Daniele; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2010). Mathematica application for nonlinear control systems on time scales. Proceeding of the 2010 IRAST International Congress on Computer Applications and Computational Science (CACS 2010), 4-6 December 2010, Paramount Hotel, Singapore. Ed. Chellappan, S. [et al.]. Singapore: IRAST, 621−624.
3.2.2010
Belikov, J.; Kotta, Ü.; Leibak, A. (2010). Transformation of the transfer matrix of the nonlinear system into the Jacobson form. Proceeding of the 2010 IRAST International Congress on Computer Applications and Computational Science (CACS 2010), 4-6 December 2010, Paramount Hotel, Singapore. Ed. Chellappan, S. et al. Singapore: IRAST, 495−498.
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1.1.2011
Belikov, J.; Kotta, P.; Kotta, Ü..; Zinober, A.S.I. (2011). Minimal realisation of bilinear and quadratic input-output difference equations in state-space form. International Journal of Control, 84 (12), 2024−2034.10.1080/00207179.2011.631587.
1.1.2011
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey Ye.; Zhirabok, Alexey N. (2011). A note on the relationship between single- and multi-experiment observability for discrete-time nonlinear control systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 60 (3), 174−178.10.3176/proc.2011.3.05.
1.1.2011
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2011). Control systems on regular time scales and their differential rings. MCSS : Mathematics of Control, Signals, and Systems, 22 (3), 185−201.10.1007/s00498-011-0058-7.
1.1.2011
Kotta, Ülle; Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Nõmm, Sven; Pawluszewicz, Ewa (2011). Linear input-output equivalence and row reducedness of discrete-time nonlinear systems. IEEE Transactions on Automatic Control, 56 (6), 1421−1426.10.1109/TAC.2011.2112430.
1.1.2011
Kotta, Ülle; Rehak, Branislav; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2011). On submersivity assumption for nonlinear control systems on homogeneous time scales. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 60 (1), 25−37.10.3176/proc.2011.1.03.
1.1.2011
Fu, Guofeng; Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle; Li, Ziming (2011). Some remarks on Kähler differentials and ordinary differentials in nonlinear control theory. Systems & Control Letters, 60 (9), 699−703.10.1016/j.sysconle.2011.05.006.
1.1.2011
Mullari, Tanel; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2011). Static state feedback linearizability: relationship between two methods. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 60 (2), 121−135.10.3176/proc.2011.2.07.
1.3.2011
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Leibak, Alar (2011). Transfer matrix and its Jacobson form for nonlinear control systems on time scales: CAS implementation. AT&P journal PLUS, 2, 6−13.
3.1.2011
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2011). Extended observer form for discrete-time nonlinear control systems. 2011 9th IEEE International Conference on Control and Automation (ICCA) : Santiago, Chile, December 19-21, 2011, [Proceedings]. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 507−512.10.1109/ICCA.2011.6137997.
3.1.2011
Belikov, Juri; Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle; Moog, Claude H. (2011). Model matching problem for discrete-time nonlinear systems: transfer function approach. 2011 9th IEEE International Conference on Control and Automation (ICCA) : Santiago, Chile, December 19-21, 2011, [Proceedings]. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 360−365.10.1109/ICCA.2011.6137955.
3.1.2011
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2011). On applicability of LPV tools for bilinear systems. 2011 9th IEEE International Conference on Control and Automation (ICCA) : Santiago, Chile, December 19-21, 2011, [Proceedings]. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 366−371.10.1109/ICCA.2011.6137941.
3.1.2011
Kotta, Ü.; Kotta, P.; Tõnso, M.; Halás, M. (2011). State-space realization of nonlinear input-output equations: unification and extension via pseudo-linear algebra. 2011 9th IEEE International Conference on Control and Automation (ICCA) : Santiago, Chile, December 19-21, 2011, [Proceedings]. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 354−359.10.1109/ICCA.2011.6137881.
3.1.2011
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2011). Minimal realization of nonlinear MIMO equations in state-space form: polynomial approach. Proceedings of the 50th IEEE Conference on Decision and Control and European Control Conference [CDC-ECC] : Orlando, FL, USA, December 12-15, 2011. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE CSS, 7735−7740.10.1109/CDC.2011.6160214.
3.1.2011
Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey Ye.; Zhirabok, Alexey N. (2011). Output feedback disturbance decoupling in discrete-time nonlinear systems. Proceedings of the 18th IFAC World Congress : Milano, Italy, August 28 - September 2, 2011. Ed. Bittanti, Sergio; Cenedese, Angelo; Zampieri, Sandro. Milano: IFAC, 239−244. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 44-1).10.3182/20110828-6-IT-1002.00192.
3.1.2011
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2011). An explicit formula for computation of the state coordinates for nonlinear i/o equation. Proceedings of the 18th IFAC World Congress : Milano, Italy, August 28 - September 2, 2011. Ed. Bittanti, Sergio; Cenedese, Angelo; Zampieri, Sandro. Milano: IFAC, 7221−7226. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 44-1).10.3182/20110828-6-IT-1002.00091.
3.1.2011
Mullari, Tanel; Kotta, Ülle; Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Pawluszewicz, Ewa (2011). Discrete-time Lie derivative with respect to system dynamics. Proceedings of the 18th IFAC World Congress : Milano, Italy, August 28 - September 2, 2011. Ed. Bittanti, Sergio; Cenedese, Angelo; Zampieri, Sandro. Milano: IFAC, 11000−11005. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 44-1).10.3182/20110828-6-IT-1002.01563.
3.1.2011
Nõmm, Sven; Kotta, Ülle (2011). Comparison of neural networks-based ANARX and NARX models by application of correlation tests. The 2011 International Joint Conference on Neural Networks, IJCNN 2011 Conference Proceedings : San Jose, California, USA, July 31 - August 5, 2011. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 2113−2118.10.1109/IJCNN.2011.6033489.
3.1.2011
Mullari, Tanel; Kotta, Ülle (2011). Simple conditions for the existence of an extended observer form. Proceedings of the 31st IASTED International Conference on Modelling, Identification, and Control : February 14 - 16, 2011, Innsbruck, Austria. Toim. Hamza, M.H. ACTA Press, 348−355.10.2316/P.2011.718-068.
3.4.2011
Kotta, Ülle; Mullari, Tanel; Shumsky, Alexey Ye.; Zhirabok, Alexey N. (2011). Accessibility and feedback linearization for SISO discrete-time nonlinear systems: new tools. Full Papers : 18th International Conference on Process Control '11 : June 14-17, 2011, Tatransk Lomnica, Slovakia. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Bratislava: Slovak University of Technology, 153−161.
3.4.2011
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2011). Relationship between two polynomial realization methods. Full Papers : 18th International Conference on Process Control '11 : June 14-17, 2011, Tatransk Lomnica, Slovakia. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Bratislava: Slovak University of Technology, 147−152.
3.4.2011
Belikov, J.; Kotta, Ü.; Leibak, A. (2011). Transfer matrix and its Jacobson form for nonlinear systems on time scales: Mathematica implementation. Full Papers : 18th International Conference on Process Control '11 : June 14-17, 2011, Tatransk Lomnica, Slovakia. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Bratislava: Slovak University of Technology, 141−146.
3.4.2011
Kaldmäe, A.; Kotta, Ü. (2011). Disturbance decoupling of discrete-time nonlinear systems by static measurement feedback. Full Papers : 18th International Conference on Process Control '11 : June 14-17, 2011, Tatransk Lomnica, Slovakia. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Bratislava: Slovak University of Technology, 135−140.
Belikov, J.; Kotta, P.; Kotta, Ü..; Zinober, A.S.I. (2011). Minimal realisation of bilinear and quadratic input-output difference equations in state-space form. International Journal of Control, 84 (12), 2024−2034.10.1080/00207179.2011.631587.
1.1.2011
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey Ye.; Zhirabok, Alexey N. (2011). A note on the relationship between single- and multi-experiment observability for discrete-time nonlinear control systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 60 (3), 174−178.10.3176/proc.2011.3.05.
1.1.2011
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2011). Control systems on regular time scales and their differential rings. MCSS : Mathematics of Control, Signals, and Systems, 22 (3), 185−201.10.1007/s00498-011-0058-7.
1.1.2011
Kotta, Ülle; Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Nõmm, Sven; Pawluszewicz, Ewa (2011). Linear input-output equivalence and row reducedness of discrete-time nonlinear systems. IEEE Transactions on Automatic Control, 56 (6), 1421−1426.10.1109/TAC.2011.2112430.
1.1.2011
Kotta, Ülle; Rehak, Branislav; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2011). On submersivity assumption for nonlinear control systems on homogeneous time scales. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 60 (1), 25−37.10.3176/proc.2011.1.03.
1.1.2011
Fu, Guofeng; Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle; Li, Ziming (2011). Some remarks on Kähler differentials and ordinary differentials in nonlinear control theory. Systems & Control Letters, 60 (9), 699−703.10.1016/j.sysconle.2011.05.006.
1.1.2011
Mullari, Tanel; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2011). Static state feedback linearizability: relationship between two methods. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 60 (2), 121−135.10.3176/proc.2011.2.07.
1.3.2011
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Leibak, Alar (2011). Transfer matrix and its Jacobson form for nonlinear control systems on time scales: CAS implementation. AT&P journal PLUS, 2, 6−13.
3.1.2011
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2011). Extended observer form for discrete-time nonlinear control systems. 2011 9th IEEE International Conference on Control and Automation (ICCA) : Santiago, Chile, December 19-21, 2011, [Proceedings]. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 507−512.10.1109/ICCA.2011.6137997.
3.1.2011
Belikov, Juri; Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle; Moog, Claude H. (2011). Model matching problem for discrete-time nonlinear systems: transfer function approach. 2011 9th IEEE International Conference on Control and Automation (ICCA) : Santiago, Chile, December 19-21, 2011, [Proceedings]. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 360−365.10.1109/ICCA.2011.6137955.
3.1.2011
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2011). On applicability of LPV tools for bilinear systems. 2011 9th IEEE International Conference on Control and Automation (ICCA) : Santiago, Chile, December 19-21, 2011, [Proceedings]. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 366−371.10.1109/ICCA.2011.6137941.
3.1.2011
Kotta, Ü.; Kotta, P.; Tõnso, M.; Halás, M. (2011). State-space realization of nonlinear input-output equations: unification and extension via pseudo-linear algebra. 2011 9th IEEE International Conference on Control and Automation (ICCA) : Santiago, Chile, December 19-21, 2011, [Proceedings]. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 354−359.10.1109/ICCA.2011.6137881.
3.1.2011
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2011). Minimal realization of nonlinear MIMO equations in state-space form: polynomial approach. Proceedings of the 50th IEEE Conference on Decision and Control and European Control Conference [CDC-ECC] : Orlando, FL, USA, December 12-15, 2011. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE CSS, 7735−7740.10.1109/CDC.2011.6160214.
3.1.2011
Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey Ye.; Zhirabok, Alexey N. (2011). Output feedback disturbance decoupling in discrete-time nonlinear systems. Proceedings of the 18th IFAC World Congress : Milano, Italy, August 28 - September 2, 2011. Ed. Bittanti, Sergio; Cenedese, Angelo; Zampieri, Sandro. Milano: IFAC, 239−244. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 44-1).10.3182/20110828-6-IT-1002.00192.
3.1.2011
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2011). An explicit formula for computation of the state coordinates for nonlinear i/o equation. Proceedings of the 18th IFAC World Congress : Milano, Italy, August 28 - September 2, 2011. Ed. Bittanti, Sergio; Cenedese, Angelo; Zampieri, Sandro. Milano: IFAC, 7221−7226. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 44-1).10.3182/20110828-6-IT-1002.00091.
3.1.2011
Mullari, Tanel; Kotta, Ülle; Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Pawluszewicz, Ewa (2011). Discrete-time Lie derivative with respect to system dynamics. Proceedings of the 18th IFAC World Congress : Milano, Italy, August 28 - September 2, 2011. Ed. Bittanti, Sergio; Cenedese, Angelo; Zampieri, Sandro. Milano: IFAC, 11000−11005. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 44-1).10.3182/20110828-6-IT-1002.01563.
3.1.2011
Nõmm, Sven; Kotta, Ülle (2011). Comparison of neural networks-based ANARX and NARX models by application of correlation tests. The 2011 International Joint Conference on Neural Networks, IJCNN 2011 Conference Proceedings : San Jose, California, USA, July 31 - August 5, 2011. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 2113−2118.10.1109/IJCNN.2011.6033489.
3.1.2011
Mullari, Tanel; Kotta, Ülle (2011). Simple conditions for the existence of an extended observer form. Proceedings of the 31st IASTED International Conference on Modelling, Identification, and Control : February 14 - 16, 2011, Innsbruck, Austria. Toim. Hamza, M.H. ACTA Press, 348−355.10.2316/P.2011.718-068.
3.4.2011
Kotta, Ülle; Mullari, Tanel; Shumsky, Alexey Ye.; Zhirabok, Alexey N. (2011). Accessibility and feedback linearization for SISO discrete-time nonlinear systems: new tools. Full Papers : 18th International Conference on Process Control '11 : June 14-17, 2011, Tatransk Lomnica, Slovakia. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Bratislava: Slovak University of Technology, 153−161.
3.4.2011
Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2011). Relationship between two polynomial realization methods. Full Papers : 18th International Conference on Process Control '11 : June 14-17, 2011, Tatransk Lomnica, Slovakia. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Bratislava: Slovak University of Technology, 147−152.
3.4.2011
Belikov, J.; Kotta, Ü.; Leibak, A. (2011). Transfer matrix and its Jacobson form for nonlinear systems on time scales: Mathematica implementation. Full Papers : 18th International Conference on Process Control '11 : June 14-17, 2011, Tatransk Lomnica, Slovakia. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Bratislava: Slovak University of Technology, 141−146.
3.4.2011
Kaldmäe, A.; Kotta, Ü. (2011). Disturbance decoupling of discrete-time nonlinear systems by static measurement feedback. Full Papers : 18th International Conference on Process Control '11 : June 14-17, 2011, Tatransk Lomnica, Slovakia. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Bratislava: Slovak University of Technology, 135−140.
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1.1.2012
Mullari, Tanel; Kotta, Ülle; Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Pawluszewicz, Ewa (2012). The concepts of Lie derivative for discrete-time systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 61 (4), 253−265.10.3176/proc.2012.4.01.
1.1.2012
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2012). State-space realization of nonlinear control systems: unification and extension via pseudo-linear algebra. Kybernetika, 48 (6), 1100−1113.
1.1.2012
Kaldmä�e, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2012). Disturbance decoupling of multi-input multi-output discrete-time nonlinear systems by static measurement feedback. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 61 (2), 77−88.10.3176/proc.2012.2.01.
1.1.2012
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2012). A transfer function approach to the realisation problem of nonlinear systems. International Journal of Control, 85 (3), 320−331.10.1080/00207179.2011.651748.
1.1.2012
Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2012). Realization of discrete-time nonlinear input-output equations: polynomial approach. Automatica, 48 (2), 255−262.10.1016/j.automatica.2011.07.010.
3.1.2012
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey Ye.; Tõnso, Maris; Zhirabok, Alexey N. (2012). Implementation of the tools of functions' algebra: first steps. MATHMOD 2012 Vienna : 7th Vienna Conference on Mathematical Modelling, Vienna, Austria 14-17 February, 2012, Proceedings. Ed. Troch, Inge; Breitenecker, Felix. Vienna: IFAC-Elsevier, 1231−1236. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 45-2).10.3182/20120215-3-AT-3016.00218.
3.1.2012
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2012). Symbolic polynomial tools for nonlinear control systems. MATHMOD 2012 Vienna : 7th Vienna Conference on Mathematical Modelling, Vienna, Austria 14-17 February, 2012, Proceedings. Ed. Troch, Inge; Breitenecker, Felix. Vienna: IFAC-Elsevier, 293−298. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 45-2).10.3182/20120215-3-AT-3016.00051.
3.1.2012
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Moog, Claude H.; Mullari, Tanel; Pawluszewicz, Ewa (2012). Dual algebraic framework for discrete-time nonlinear control systems. Proceedings of the 51st IEEE Conference on Decision and Control : December 10-13, Maui, Hawaii, USA. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 1846−1851.
3.1.2012
Belikov, J.; Kotta, P.; Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2012). Practical polynomial formulas in MIMO nonlinear realization problem. Proceedings of the 51st IEEE Conference on Decision and Control : December 10-13, Maui, Hawaii, USA. Piscataway,NJ: IEEE, 1253−1258.10.1109/CDC.2012.6427109.
3.1.2012
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2012). Explicit formulas for the state coordinates in nonlinear MIMO realization problem on homogeneous time scales. 2012 IEEE International Conference on Control Applications (CCA), Part of 2012 IEEE Multi-Conference on Systems and Control, October 3-5, 2012.Dubrovnik, Croatia. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 1388−1393.10.1109/CCA.2012.6402403.
3.1.2012
Kaldm�äe, Arvo; Kotta, �Ülle (2012). Dynamic measurement feedback in discrete-time nonlinear control systems. Proceedings of the 2012 American Control Conference : Fairmont The Queen Elizabeth, Montr�al, Canada, June 27-June 29, 2012. Montr�al: AACC; IEEE, 214−219.
5.2.2012
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey Ye.; Tõnso, Maris; Zhirabok, Alexey N. (2012). Implementation of the tools of functions' algebra: first steps. Preprints MATHMOD Vienna 2012, Vienna : Abstract Volume. Toim. Troch, I.; Breitenecker, F. Vienna: ARGESIM, TU Vienna, 368. (ARGESIM Report; S38).
5.2.2012
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2012). Symbolic polynomial tools for nonlinear control systems. Preprints MATHMOD Vienna 2012, Vienna : Abstract Volume. Ed. Troch, I.; Breitenecker, F. Vienna: ARGESIM, TU Vienna, 67. (ARGESIM Report; S38).
Mullari, Tanel; Kotta, Ülle; Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Pawluszewicz, Ewa (2012). The concepts of Lie derivative for discrete-time systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 61 (4), 253−265.10.3176/proc.2012.4.01.
1.1.2012
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2012). State-space realization of nonlinear control systems: unification and extension via pseudo-linear algebra. Kybernetika, 48 (6), 1100−1113.
1.1.2012
Kaldmä�e, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2012). Disturbance decoupling of multi-input multi-output discrete-time nonlinear systems by static measurement feedback. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 61 (2), 77−88.10.3176/proc.2012.2.01.
1.1.2012
Halás, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle (2012). A transfer function approach to the realisation problem of nonlinear systems. International Journal of Control, 85 (3), 320−331.10.1080/00207179.2011.651748.
1.1.2012
Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2012). Realization of discrete-time nonlinear input-output equations: polynomial approach. Automatica, 48 (2), 255−262.10.1016/j.automatica.2011.07.010.
3.1.2012
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey Ye.; Tõnso, Maris; Zhirabok, Alexey N. (2012). Implementation of the tools of functions' algebra: first steps. MATHMOD 2012 Vienna : 7th Vienna Conference on Mathematical Modelling, Vienna, Austria 14-17 February, 2012, Proceedings. Ed. Troch, Inge; Breitenecker, Felix. Vienna: IFAC-Elsevier, 1231−1236. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 45-2).10.3182/20120215-3-AT-3016.00218.
3.1.2012
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2012). Symbolic polynomial tools for nonlinear control systems. MATHMOD 2012 Vienna : 7th Vienna Conference on Mathematical Modelling, Vienna, Austria 14-17 February, 2012, Proceedings. Ed. Troch, Inge; Breitenecker, Felix. Vienna: IFAC-Elsevier, 293−298. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 45-2).10.3182/20120215-3-AT-3016.00051.
3.1.2012
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Moog, Claude H.; Mullari, Tanel; Pawluszewicz, Ewa (2012). Dual algebraic framework for discrete-time nonlinear control systems. Proceedings of the 51st IEEE Conference on Decision and Control : December 10-13, Maui, Hawaii, USA. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 1846−1851.
3.1.2012
Belikov, J.; Kotta, P.; Kotta, Ü.; Tõnso, M. (2012). Practical polynomial formulas in MIMO nonlinear realization problem. Proceedings of the 51st IEEE Conference on Decision and Control : December 10-13, Maui, Hawaii, USA. Piscataway,NJ: IEEE, 1253−1258.10.1109/CDC.2012.6427109.
3.1.2012
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2012). Explicit formulas for the state coordinates in nonlinear MIMO realization problem on homogeneous time scales. 2012 IEEE International Conference on Control Applications (CCA), Part of 2012 IEEE Multi-Conference on Systems and Control, October 3-5, 2012.Dubrovnik, Croatia. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 1388−1393.10.1109/CCA.2012.6402403.
3.1.2012
Kaldm�äe, Arvo; Kotta, �Ülle (2012). Dynamic measurement feedback in discrete-time nonlinear control systems. Proceedings of the 2012 American Control Conference : Fairmont The Queen Elizabeth, Montr�al, Canada, June 27-June 29, 2012. Montr�al: AACC; IEEE, 214−219.
5.2.2012
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey Ye.; Tõnso, Maris; Zhirabok, Alexey N. (2012). Implementation of the tools of functions' algebra: first steps. Preprints MATHMOD Vienna 2012, Vienna : Abstract Volume. Toim. Troch, I.; Breitenecker, F. Vienna: ARGESIM, TU Vienna, 368. (ARGESIM Report; S38).
5.2.2012
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2012). Symbolic polynomial tools for nonlinear control systems. Preprints MATHMOD Vienna 2012, Vienna : Abstract Volume. Ed. Troch, I.; Breitenecker, F. Vienna: ARGESIM, TU Vienna, 67. (ARGESIM Report; S38).
29 April 2018 15:38
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1.1.2013
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Tõnso, Maris (2013). Algebraic formalism of differential p-forms and vector fields for nonlinear control systems on homogeneous time scales. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 62 (4), 215−226.10.3176/proc.2013.4.02.
1.1.2013
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey; Zhirabok, Alexey (2013). Measurement feedback disturbance decoupling in discrete-time nonlinear systems. Automatica, 49 (9), 2887−2891.10.1016/j.automatica.2013.06.013.
1.1.2013
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Tõnso, Maris; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2013). Reducibility condition for nonlinear discrete-time systems: behavioral approach. Control and Cybernetics, 42 (2), 329−346.
1.1.2013
Kaparin, V.; Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T. (2013). Extended observer form: simple existence conditions. International Journal of Control, 86 (5), 794−803.10.1080/00207179.2012.760048.
1.1.2013
Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris; Shumsky, Alexey Ye.; Zhirabok, Alexey N. (2013). Feedback linearization and lattice theory. Systems & Control Letters, 62 (3), 248−255.10.1016/j.sysconle.2012.11.014.
3.1.2013
Srinivasan, Seshadhri; Vallabhan, Mishiga; Ramaswamy, Srini; Kotta, Ülle (2013). Adaptive regulator for networked control systems: MATLAB and True Time implementation. 2013 25th Chinese Control and Decision Conference (CCDC) : May 25-27, 2013, Guiyang, China. Singapore: IEEE, 2551−2555.10.1109/CCDC.2013.6561370.
3.1.2013
Srinivasan, Seshadhri; Vallabhan, Mishiga; Ramaswamy, Srini; Kotta, Ülle (2013). Adaptive LQR controller for networked control systems subjected to random communication delays. 2013 American Control Conference (ACC 2013) : Washington, DC, USA, June 17-19, 2013. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 783−787.10.1109/ACC.2013.6579931.
3.1.2013
Srinivasan, Seshadhri; Kotta, Ulle; Ramaswamy, Srini (2013). A layered architecture for control functionality implementation in smart grids. 2013 10th IEEE International Conference on Networking, Sensing and Control (ICNSC 2013), Evry, France, 10-12 April 2013, [Proceedings]. IEEE, 100−105.10.1109/ICNSC.2013.6548719.
3.1.2013
Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris; Belikov, Juri; Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kaparin, Vadim; Shumsky, Alexey Ye.; Zhirabok, Alexey N. (2013). A symbolic software package for nonlinear control systems. Proceedings of the 2013 International Conference on Process Control (PC) : Š�trbské Pleso, Slovakia, June 18 - 21, 2013. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 101−106.10.1109/PC.2013.6581391.
3.1.2013
Halturina, Kristina; Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2013). Computation of flat outputs for discrete-time nonlinear systems with Mathematica. Proceedings of the 2013 International Conference on Process Control (PC) : Š�trbské Pleso, Slovakia, June 18 - 21, 2013. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 107−112.10.1109/PC.2013.6581392.
3.1.2013
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2013). Comparison of two methods for computing flat outputs. Proceedings of the 2013 International Conference on Process Control (PC) : Š�trbské Pleso, Slovakia, June 18 - 21, 2013. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 7−12.10.1109/PC.2013.6581374.
3.1.2013
Belikov, J.; Kotta, Ü.; Srinivasan, S.; Kaldmäe, A.; Halturina, K. (2013). On exact feedback linearization of HVAC systems. Proceedings of the 2013 International Conference on Process Control (PC) : Š�trbské Pleso, Slovakia, June 18 - 21, 2013. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 353−358.10.1109/PC.2013.6581436.
3.1.2013
Kotta, Ülle; Moog, Claude H.; Tõnso, Maris (2013). The minimal time-varying realization of a nonlinear time-invariant system. 9th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, NOLCOS 2013 : Toulouse, France, September 4-6, 2013, Proceedings. Ed. Tarbouriech, Sophie; Krstic, Miroslav. Toulouse: IFAC-Elsevier, 518−523. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 46-23).10.3182/20130904-3-FR-2041.00080.
3.1.2013
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2013). On flatness of discrete-time nonlinear systems. 9th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, NOLCOS 2013 : Toulouse, France, September 4-6, 2013, Proceedings. Ed. Tarbouriech, Sophie; Krstic, Miroslav. Toulouse: IFAC-Elsevier, 588−593. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 46-32).10.3182/20130904-3-FR-2041.00017.
3.1.2013
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2013). Input-output linearization by dynamic output feedback. ECC'13 : European Control Conference : July 17-19, ETH Zurich, Switzerland. Zurich: IEEE; EUCA, 1728−1733.
3.1.2013
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2013). NLControl: Symbolic package for study of nonlinear control systems. 2013 IEEE Multi-conference on Systems and Control (CACSD/CCA/ISIC) : August 28-30, 2013, Hyderabad, India. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 322−327.
3.1.2013
Kaldmäe, A.; Kotta, U.; Shumsky, A.Ye.; Zhirabok, A.N. (2013). Fault accommodation in discrete time dynamic systems: fault decoupling based approach. SysTol'13 : 2nd International Conference on Control and Fault-Tolerant Systems, October 9-11, 2013, Nice, France. IEEE, 450−455.10.1109/SysTol.2013.6693830.
5.2.2013
Kotta, Ülle; Belikov, Juri; Tõnso, Maris (2013). Polynomial tools for discrete-time nonlinear control systems. PODE2013. Progress on difference equations 2013 : 21-26 July 2013, Bialystok, Abstracts. 50−51.
5.2.2013
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2013). NLControl: Symbolic package for study of nonlinear control systems. IEEE Multi-conference on Systems and Control : August 28-30, 2013, Hyderabad, India. 31−32.
5.2.2013
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2013). On flatness of discrete-time nonlinear systems. NOLCOS 2013 : 9th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, University of Toulouse, France, September 04-06, 2013, Final Program and Book of Abstracts. Toulouse: LAAS-CNRS, 38.
5.2.2013
Kotta, Ülle; Moog, Claude H.; Tõnso, Maris (2013). The minimal time-varying realization of a nonlinear time-invariant system. NOLCOS 2013 : 9th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, University of Toulouse, France, September 04-06, 2013, Final Program and Book of Abstracts. Toulouse: LAAS-CNRS, 35.
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Tõnso, Maris (2013). Algebraic formalism of differential p-forms and vector fields for nonlinear control systems on homogeneous time scales. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 62 (4), 215−226.10.3176/proc.2013.4.02.
1.1.2013
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey; Zhirabok, Alexey (2013). Measurement feedback disturbance decoupling in discrete-time nonlinear systems. Automatica, 49 (9), 2887−2891.10.1016/j.automatica.2013.06.013.
1.1.2013
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Tõnso, Maris; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2013). Reducibility condition for nonlinear discrete-time systems: behavioral approach. Control and Cybernetics, 42 (2), 329−346.
1.1.2013
Kaparin, V.; Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T. (2013). Extended observer form: simple existence conditions. International Journal of Control, 86 (5), 794−803.10.1080/00207179.2012.760048.
1.1.2013
Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris; Shumsky, Alexey Ye.; Zhirabok, Alexey N. (2013). Feedback linearization and lattice theory. Systems & Control Letters, 62 (3), 248−255.10.1016/j.sysconle.2012.11.014.
3.1.2013
Srinivasan, Seshadhri; Vallabhan, Mishiga; Ramaswamy, Srini; Kotta, Ülle (2013). Adaptive regulator for networked control systems: MATLAB and True Time implementation. 2013 25th Chinese Control and Decision Conference (CCDC) : May 25-27, 2013, Guiyang, China. Singapore: IEEE, 2551−2555.10.1109/CCDC.2013.6561370.
3.1.2013
Srinivasan, Seshadhri; Vallabhan, Mishiga; Ramaswamy, Srini; Kotta, Ülle (2013). Adaptive LQR controller for networked control systems subjected to random communication delays. 2013 American Control Conference (ACC 2013) : Washington, DC, USA, June 17-19, 2013. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 783−787.10.1109/ACC.2013.6579931.
3.1.2013
Srinivasan, Seshadhri; Kotta, Ulle; Ramaswamy, Srini (2013). A layered architecture for control functionality implementation in smart grids. 2013 10th IEEE International Conference on Networking, Sensing and Control (ICNSC 2013), Evry, France, 10-12 April 2013, [Proceedings]. IEEE, 100−105.10.1109/ICNSC.2013.6548719.
3.1.2013
Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris; Belikov, Juri; Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kaparin, Vadim; Shumsky, Alexey Ye.; Zhirabok, Alexey N. (2013). A symbolic software package for nonlinear control systems. Proceedings of the 2013 International Conference on Process Control (PC) : Š�trbské Pleso, Slovakia, June 18 - 21, 2013. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 101−106.10.1109/PC.2013.6581391.
3.1.2013
Halturina, Kristina; Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2013). Computation of flat outputs for discrete-time nonlinear systems with Mathematica. Proceedings of the 2013 International Conference on Process Control (PC) : Š�trbské Pleso, Slovakia, June 18 - 21, 2013. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 107−112.10.1109/PC.2013.6581392.
3.1.2013
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2013). Comparison of two methods for computing flat outputs. Proceedings of the 2013 International Conference on Process Control (PC) : Š�trbské Pleso, Slovakia, June 18 - 21, 2013. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 7−12.10.1109/PC.2013.6581374.
3.1.2013
Belikov, J.; Kotta, Ü.; Srinivasan, S.; Kaldmäe, A.; Halturina, K. (2013). On exact feedback linearization of HVAC systems. Proceedings of the 2013 International Conference on Process Control (PC) : Š�trbské Pleso, Slovakia, June 18 - 21, 2013. Ed. Fikar, M.; Kvasnica, M. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 353−358.10.1109/PC.2013.6581436.
3.1.2013
Kotta, Ülle; Moog, Claude H.; Tõnso, Maris (2013). The minimal time-varying realization of a nonlinear time-invariant system. 9th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, NOLCOS 2013 : Toulouse, France, September 4-6, 2013, Proceedings. Ed. Tarbouriech, Sophie; Krstic, Miroslav. Toulouse: IFAC-Elsevier, 518−523. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 46-23).10.3182/20130904-3-FR-2041.00080.
3.1.2013
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2013). On flatness of discrete-time nonlinear systems. 9th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, NOLCOS 2013 : Toulouse, France, September 4-6, 2013, Proceedings. Ed. Tarbouriech, Sophie; Krstic, Miroslav. Toulouse: IFAC-Elsevier, 588−593. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 46-32).10.3182/20130904-3-FR-2041.00017.
3.1.2013
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2013). Input-output linearization by dynamic output feedback. ECC'13 : European Control Conference : July 17-19, ETH Zurich, Switzerland. Zurich: IEEE; EUCA, 1728−1733.
3.1.2013
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2013). NLControl: Symbolic package for study of nonlinear control systems. 2013 IEEE Multi-conference on Systems and Control (CACSD/CCA/ISIC) : August 28-30, 2013, Hyderabad, India. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 322−327.
3.1.2013
Kaldmäe, A.; Kotta, U.; Shumsky, A.Ye.; Zhirabok, A.N. (2013). Fault accommodation in discrete time dynamic systems: fault decoupling based approach. SysTol'13 : 2nd International Conference on Control and Fault-Tolerant Systems, October 9-11, 2013, Nice, France. IEEE, 450−455.10.1109/SysTol.2013.6693830.
5.2.2013
Kotta, Ülle; Belikov, Juri; Tõnso, Maris (2013). Polynomial tools for discrete-time nonlinear control systems. PODE2013. Progress on difference equations 2013 : 21-26 July 2013, Bialystok, Abstracts. 50−51.
5.2.2013
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2013). NLControl: Symbolic package for study of nonlinear control systems. IEEE Multi-conference on Systems and Control : August 28-30, 2013, Hyderabad, India. 31−32.
5.2.2013
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2013). On flatness of discrete-time nonlinear systems. NOLCOS 2013 : 9th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, University of Toulouse, France, September 04-06, 2013, Final Program and Book of Abstracts. Toulouse: LAAS-CNRS, 38.
5.2.2013
Kotta, Ülle; Moog, Claude H.; Tõnso, Maris (2013). The minimal time-varying realization of a nonlinear time-invariant system. NOLCOS 2013 : 9th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems, University of Toulouse, France, September 04-06, 2013, Final Program and Book of Abstracts. Toulouse: LAAS-CNRS, 35.
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1.1.2015
Belikov, Juri; Halas, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle; Moog, Claude H. (2015). Model matching problem for discrete-time nonlinear systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 64 (4), 457−472.10.3176/proc.2015.4.01.
1.1.2015
Kotta, Ülle; Schlacher, Kurt; Tõnso, Maris (2015). Relaxing realizability conditions for discrete-time nonlinear systems. Automatica, 58, 67−71.10.1016/j.automatica.2015.05.007.
1.1.2015
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2015). Transformation of nonlinear state equations into the observer form: Necessary and sufficient conditions in terms of one-forms. Kybernetika, 51 (1), 36−58.10.14736/kyb-2015-1-0036.
1.1.2015
Kawano, Yu; Kotta, Ülle (2015). On integrability of observable space for discrete-time polynomial control systems. IEEE Transactions on Automatic Control, 60 (7), 1987−1991.10.1109/TAC.2014.2365685.
1.1.2015
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2015). Realization of nonlinear MIMO system on homogeneous time scales. European Journal of Control, 23, 48−54.10.1016/j.ejcon.2015.01.006.
1.1.2015
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey; Zhirabok, Alexey (2015). Measurement feedback disturbance decoupling in discrete-event systems. International Journal of Robust and Nonlinear Control, 25 (17), 3330−3348.10.1002/rnc.3265.
1.1.2015
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2015). Static state feedback linearization of nonlinear control systems on homogeneous time scales. MCSS : Mathematics of Control, Signals, and Systems, 27 (4), 523−550.10.1007/s00498-015-0150-5.
3.1.2015
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey; Zhirabok, Alexey (2015). Faulty plant reconfiguration by measurement feedback: sensor location. 9th IFAC Symposium on Fault Detection, Supervision and Safety for Technical Processes 2015 : Paris, 2-4 September 2015, Proceedings. Ed. Maquin, Didier. Paris: Elsevier, 1283−1288. (IFAC-PapersOnLine; 48-21).10.1016/j.ifacol.2015.09.702.
3.1.2015
Ciulkin, Monika; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2015). Input-output linearization by dynamic output feedback on homogeneous time scales. MMAR 2015 : 20th International Conference on Methods and Models in Automation & Robotics, 24-27 August, 2015, Miedzyzdroje, Poland, [Proceedings]. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 477−482.10.1109/MMAR.2015.7283922.
3.1.2015
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Tõnso, Maris; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2015). Transforming a set of nonlinear input-output equations into Popov form. 2015 IEEE 54th Annual Conference on Decision and Control (CDC) : December 15-18, 2015.Osaka, Japan, Proceedings. Piscataway, N.J.: IEEE, 7131−7136.10.1109/CDC.2015.7403344.
3.1.2015
Kawano, Yu; Kotta, Ülle (2015). On integrability of observable space for discrete-time analytic systems. 2015 IEEE 54th Annual Conference on Decision and Control (CDC) : December 15-18, 2015.Osaka, Japan, Proceedings. Piscataway, N.J.: IEEE, 7137−7142.10.1109/CDC.2015.7403345.
5.2.2015
Ciulkin, Monika; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2015). Input-output linearization by dynamic output feedback on homogeneous time scales. MMAR 2015 : 20th International Conference on Methods and Models in Automation & Robotics, 24-27 August 2015, Miedzyzdroje, Poland, Abstracts. Szczecin: West Pomeranian University of Technology, 53.
6.3.2015
Kotta, Ülle (2015). Juhtimissüsteemide juhitavus ja tagasiside : Tagasiside. Mittelineaarsus. Lamedus. Engelbrecht, Jüri; Kändler, Tiit (Toim.). Keeruka maailma võlu (77−80).. [Tallinn]: Tallinna Tehnikaülikooli Küberneetika Instituut.
1.1.2014
Ciulkin, Monika; Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle; Pawluszewicz, Ewa (2014). Linearization by input-output injections on homogeneous time scales. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 63 (4), 387−397.10.3176/proc.2014.4.04.
1.1.2014
Zhirabok, A.N.; Kotta, Ü.; Shumsky, A.E. (2014). Accommodation to defects in the discrete dynamic systems. Automation and Remote Control, 75 (6), 997−1009.10.1134/S0005117914060010.
1.1.2014
Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris; Kawano, Yu (2014). Polynomial accessibility condition for the multi-input multi-output nonlinear control system. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 63 (2), 136−150.10.3176/proc.2014.2.04.
1.1.2014
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2014). Observable space of the nonlinear control system on a homogeneous time scale. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 63 (1), 11−25.10.3176/proc.2014.1.04.
1.1.2014
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2014). Input-output linearization of discrete-time systems by dynamic output feedback. European Journal of Control, 20 (2), 73−78.10.1016/j.ejcon.2013.12.004.
1.1.2014
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2014). Comparison of LPV and nonlinear system theory: a realization problem. Systems & Control Letters, 64, 72−78.10.1016/j.sysconle.2013.10.009.
1.1.2014
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2014). Adjoint polynomial formulas for nonlinear state-space realization. IEEE Transactions on Automatic Control, 59 (1), 256−261.10.1109/TAC.2013.2270868.
1.2.2014
Жирабок, А.Н.; Котта, Ю.; Шумский, А.Е. (2014). Аккомодация к дефектам в дискретных динамических системах. Автоматика и телемеханика, 6, 14−29.
3.1.2014
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey; Zhirabok, Alexey (2014). Disturbance decoupling for nonlinear systems by measurement feedback: sensor location. 19th IFAC World Congress, IFAC 2014 : Cape Town, South Africa, 24-29 August 2014, Proceedings. Ed. Boje, Edward; Xia, Xiaohua. Cape Town: IFAC, 7729−7734. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 47-3).10.3182/20140824-6-ZA-1003.00013.
3.1.2014
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2014). Disturbance decoupling by measurement feedback. 19th IFAC World Congress, IFAC 2014 : Cape Town, South Africa, 24-29 August 2014, Proceedings. Ed. Boje, Edward; Xia, Xiaohua. Cape Town: IFAC, 7735−7740. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 47-3).10.3182/20140824-6-ZA-1003.00216.
3.1.2014
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris; Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2014). Dynamic feedback linearization of nonlinear control systems on homogenous time scale. The 2014 IEEE Control Systems Society Multiconference on Systems and Control : Antibes Congress Center, Nice/Antibes, France, October 8-10, 2014. Antibes: IEEE, CSS, 947−952.10.1109/CCA.2014.6981458.
3.4.2014
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2014). Input-output decoupling of discrete-time nonlinear systems by measurement feedback. MTNS 2014 : 21st International Symposium on Mathematical Theory of Networks and Systems, July 7-11, 2014, Groningen, The Netherlands, Proceedings. Groningen: University of Groningen , 311−316.
Belikov, Juri; Halas, Miroslav; Kotta, Ülle; Moog, Claude H. (2015). Model matching problem for discrete-time nonlinear systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 64 (4), 457−472.10.3176/proc.2015.4.01.
1.1.2015
Kotta, Ülle; Schlacher, Kurt; Tõnso, Maris (2015). Relaxing realizability conditions for discrete-time nonlinear systems. Automatica, 58, 67−71.10.1016/j.automatica.2015.05.007.
1.1.2015
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2015). Transformation of nonlinear state equations into the observer form: Necessary and sufficient conditions in terms of one-forms. Kybernetika, 51 (1), 36−58.10.14736/kyb-2015-1-0036.
1.1.2015
Kawano, Yu; Kotta, Ülle (2015). On integrability of observable space for discrete-time polynomial control systems. IEEE Transactions on Automatic Control, 60 (7), 1987−1991.10.1109/TAC.2014.2365685.
1.1.2015
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2015). Realization of nonlinear MIMO system on homogeneous time scales. European Journal of Control, 23, 48−54.10.1016/j.ejcon.2015.01.006.
1.1.2015
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey; Zhirabok, Alexey (2015). Measurement feedback disturbance decoupling in discrete-event systems. International Journal of Robust and Nonlinear Control, 25 (17), 3330−3348.10.1002/rnc.3265.
1.1.2015
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2015). Static state feedback linearization of nonlinear control systems on homogeneous time scales. MCSS : Mathematics of Control, Signals, and Systems, 27 (4), 523−550.10.1007/s00498-015-0150-5.
3.1.2015
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey; Zhirabok, Alexey (2015). Faulty plant reconfiguration by measurement feedback: sensor location. 9th IFAC Symposium on Fault Detection, Supervision and Safety for Technical Processes 2015 : Paris, 2-4 September 2015, Proceedings. Ed. Maquin, Didier. Paris: Elsevier, 1283−1288. (IFAC-PapersOnLine; 48-21).10.1016/j.ifacol.2015.09.702.
3.1.2015
Ciulkin, Monika; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2015). Input-output linearization by dynamic output feedback on homogeneous time scales. MMAR 2015 : 20th International Conference on Methods and Models in Automation & Robotics, 24-27 August, 2015, Miedzyzdroje, Poland, [Proceedings]. Piscataway, NJ: IEEE, 477−482.10.1109/MMAR.2015.7283922.
3.1.2015
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Tõnso, Maris; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2015). Transforming a set of nonlinear input-output equations into Popov form. 2015 IEEE 54th Annual Conference on Decision and Control (CDC) : December 15-18, 2015.Osaka, Japan, Proceedings. Piscataway, N.J.: IEEE, 7131−7136.10.1109/CDC.2015.7403344.
3.1.2015
Kawano, Yu; Kotta, Ülle (2015). On integrability of observable space for discrete-time analytic systems. 2015 IEEE 54th Annual Conference on Decision and Control (CDC) : December 15-18, 2015.Osaka, Japan, Proceedings. Piscataway, N.J.: IEEE, 7137−7142.10.1109/CDC.2015.7403345.
5.2.2015
Ciulkin, Monika; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2015). Input-output linearization by dynamic output feedback on homogeneous time scales. MMAR 2015 : 20th International Conference on Methods and Models in Automation & Robotics, 24-27 August 2015, Miedzyzdroje, Poland, Abstracts. Szczecin: West Pomeranian University of Technology, 53.
6.3.2015
Kotta, Ülle (2015). Juhtimissüsteemide juhitavus ja tagasiside : Tagasiside. Mittelineaarsus. Lamedus. Engelbrecht, Jüri; Kändler, Tiit (Toim.). Keeruka maailma võlu (77−80).. [Tallinn]: Tallinna Tehnikaülikooli Küberneetika Instituut.
1.1.2014
Ciulkin, Monika; Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle; Pawluszewicz, Ewa (2014). Linearization by input-output injections on homogeneous time scales. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 63 (4), 387−397.10.3176/proc.2014.4.04.
1.1.2014
Zhirabok, A.N.; Kotta, Ü.; Shumsky, A.E. (2014). Accommodation to defects in the discrete dynamic systems. Automation and Remote Control, 75 (6), 997−1009.10.1134/S0005117914060010.
1.1.2014
Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris; Kawano, Yu (2014). Polynomial accessibility condition for the multi-input multi-output nonlinear control system. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 63 (2), 136−150.10.3176/proc.2014.2.04.
1.1.2014
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2014). Observable space of the nonlinear control system on a homogeneous time scale. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 63 (1), 11−25.10.3176/proc.2014.1.04.
1.1.2014
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2014). Input-output linearization of discrete-time systems by dynamic output feedback. European Journal of Control, 20 (2), 73−78.10.1016/j.ejcon.2013.12.004.
1.1.2014
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2014). Comparison of LPV and nonlinear system theory: a realization problem. Systems & Control Letters, 64, 72−78.10.1016/j.sysconle.2013.10.009.
1.1.2014
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2014). Adjoint polynomial formulas for nonlinear state-space realization. IEEE Transactions on Automatic Control, 59 (1), 256−261.10.1109/TAC.2013.2270868.
1.2.2014
Жирабок, А.Н.; Котта, Ю.; Шумский, А.Е. (2014). Аккомодация к дефектам в дискретных динамических системах. Автоматика и телемеханика, 6, 14−29.
3.1.2014
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey; Zhirabok, Alexey (2014). Disturbance decoupling for nonlinear systems by measurement feedback: sensor location. 19th IFAC World Congress, IFAC 2014 : Cape Town, South Africa, 24-29 August 2014, Proceedings. Ed. Boje, Edward; Xia, Xiaohua. Cape Town: IFAC, 7729−7734. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 47-3).10.3182/20140824-6-ZA-1003.00013.
3.1.2014
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2014). Disturbance decoupling by measurement feedback. 19th IFAC World Congress, IFAC 2014 : Cape Town, South Africa, 24-29 August 2014, Proceedings. Ed. Boje, Edward; Xia, Xiaohua. Cape Town: IFAC, 7735−7740. (IFAC Proceedings Volumes; 47-3).10.3182/20140824-6-ZA-1003.00216.
3.1.2014
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris; Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2014). Dynamic feedback linearization of nonlinear control systems on homogenous time scale. The 2014 IEEE Control Systems Society Multiconference on Systems and Control : Antibes Congress Center, Nice/Antibes, France, October 8-10, 2014. Antibes: IEEE, CSS, 947−952.10.1109/CCA.2014.6981458.
3.4.2014
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2014). Input-output decoupling of discrete-time nonlinear systems by measurement feedback. MTNS 2014 : 21st International Symposium on Mathematical Theory of Networks and Systems, July 7-11, 2014, Groningen, The Netherlands, Proceedings. Groningen: University of Groningen , 311−316.
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1.1.2017
Kotta,Ülle; Tõnso,Maris (2017). Realisation of linear time-varying systems. International Journal of Control, 90 (9), 1951−1956.10.1080/00207179.2016.1230891.
1.1.2017
Mullari, T.; Kotta, Ü.; Bartosiewicz, Z.; Pawluszewicz, E.; Moog, C. H. (2017). Forward and backward shifts of vector fields: towards the dual algebraic framework. IEEE Transactions on Automatic Control, 62 (6), 3029−3033.10.1109/TAC.2016.2608718.
1.1.2017
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2017). Input-output decoupling of discrete-time nonlinear systems by dynamic measurement feedback. European Journal of Control, 34, 31−38.10.1016/j.ejcon.2016.12.004.
1.1.2017
Belikov, Juri; Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2017). Global linearization approach to nonlinear control systems: a brief tutorial overview. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 66 (3), 243−263.10.3176/proc.2017.3.01.
1.1.2017
Belikov, Juri; Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey; Tõnso, Maris; Zhirabok, Alexey (2017). Functions' algebra in nonlinear control: computational aspects and software. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 66 (1), 89−107.10.3176/proc.2017.1.06.
1.1.2017
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2017). On the differentiation of a composite function with a generalized vector argument on homogeneous time scales. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 66 (3), 309−322.10.3176/proc.2017.3.04.
1.1.2017
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey; Zhirabok, Alexey (2017). Feedback linearization of possibly non-smooth systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 66 (2), 109−123.10.3176/proc.2017.2.01.
1.1.2017
Mystkowski, Arkadiusz; Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Tõnso, Maris (2017). Feedback linearization of an active magnetic bearing system operated with a zero-bias flux. International Journal of Applied Mathematics and Computer Science, 27 (3), 539−548.10.1515/amcs-2017-0038.
1.1.2017
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2017). Flatness based control of a HVAC system. Information Technology and Control, 46 (4), 499−507.10.5755/j01.itc.46.4.17697.
3.1.2017
Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2017). NLControl - a Mathematica package for nonlinear control systems. 20th IFAC World Congress : Toulouse, France, 9-14 July 2017, Proceedings. Ed. Dochain, Denis; Henrion, Didier; Peaucelle, Dimitri. IFAC, 681−686. (IFAC-PapersOnLine; 50-1).10.1016/j.ifacol.2017.08.122.
1.1.2016
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2016). On the transformation of a nonlinear discrete-time input-output system into the strong row-reduced form. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 65 (3), 220−236.10.3176/proc.2016.3.02.
1.1.2016
Kaldmäe, A; Kotta, Ü.; Jiang, B.; Shumsky, A.; Zhirabok, A. (2016). Faulty plant reconfiguration based on disturbance decoupling methods. Asian Journal of Control, 18 (3), 858−867.10.1002/asjc.1185.
1.1.2016
Kawano, Yu; Kotta, Ülle; Moog, Claude H. (2016). Any dynamical system is fully accessible through one single actuator and related problems. International Journal of Robust and Nonlinear Control, 26 (8), 1748−1754.10.1002/rnc.3379.
1.1.2016
Bartosiewicz,Zbigniew; Kotta,Ülle; Mullari,Tanel; Tõnso,Maris; Pawluszewicz,Ewa; Wyrwas,Malgorzata (2016). Nabla derivatives associated with nonlinear control systems on homogeneous time scales. Nonlinear Analysis: Modelling and Control, 21 (4), 547−563.10.15388/NA.2016.4.8.
1.1.2016
Soudari, M.; Srinivasan, S.; Balasubramanian, S.; Vain, J.; Kotta, U. (2016). Learning based personalized energy management systems for residential buildings. Energy and Buildings, 127, 953−968.10.1016/j.enbuild.2016.05.059.
1.1.2016
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2016). Accessibility conditions of MIMO nonlinear control systems on homogeneous time scales. Mathematical Control and Related Fields, 6 (2), 217−250.10.3934/mcrf.2016002.
1.1.2016
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tepljakov, Aleksei (2016). Algebraic approach for analysis and control of a water tank system. Information Technology And Control, 45 (2), 175−183.10.5755/j01.itc.45.2.13212.
1.1.2016
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey; Zhirabok, Alexey (2016). Disturbance decoupling by measurement feedback: sensor location. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 65 (4), 317−329.10.3176/proc.2016.4.05.
1.1.2016
Kawano, Yu; Kotta, Ülle (2016). Single-experiment observability decomposition of discrete-time analytic systems. Systems & Control Letters, 97, 193−199.10.1016/j.sysconle.2016.09.016.
1.1.2016
Bartosiewicz, Z.; Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Tõnso, M.; Wyrwas, M. (2016). On accessibility conditions for state space nonlinear control systems on homogeneous time scales. Systems & Control Letters, 98, 8−13.10.1016/j.sysconle.2016.09.018.
3.1.2016
Ciulkin, Monika; Pawłuszewicz, Ewa; Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2016). Linearization by generalized input-output injections on homogeneous time scales. 2016 21st International Conference on Methods and Models in Automation and Robotics : [Miedzyzdroje, Poland, 29 August - 1 September, 2016]. IEEE, 48−53.10.1109/MMAR.2016.7575086.
3.1.2016
Kaldmäe, A.; Kotta, Ü.; Shumsky, A.; Zhirabok, A. (2016). Disturbance decoupling in nonlinear hybrid systems. 12th IEEE International Conference on Control & Automation (ICCA) : Kathmandu, Nepal, June 1-3, 2016. IEEE, 86−91.10.1109/ICCA.2016.7505257.
3.1.2016
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey; Zhirabok, Alexey (2016). Disturbance decoupling problem in finite automata: sensor location problem. MSC 2016 : IEEE Multi-Conference on Systems and Control, Buenos Aires, Argentina, September 19-22, 2016. IEEE, 481−486.10.1109/CCA.2016.7587876.
3.1.2016
Kolar, Bernd; Kaldmäe, Arvo; Schöberl, Markus; Kotta, Ülle; Schlacher, Kurt (2016). Construction of flat outputs of nonlinear discrete-time systems in a geometric and an algebraic framework. 10th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems (NOLCOS) : Monterey, California, USA, 23-25 August 2016, Proceedings. Ed. Teel, Andrew. Elsevier, 796−801. (IFAC-PapersOnLine; 49-18).10.1016/j.ifacol.2016.10.263.
Kotta,Ülle; Tõnso,Maris (2017). Realisation of linear time-varying systems. International Journal of Control, 90 (9), 1951−1956.10.1080/00207179.2016.1230891.
1.1.2017
Mullari, T.; Kotta, Ü.; Bartosiewicz, Z.; Pawluszewicz, E.; Moog, C. H. (2017). Forward and backward shifts of vector fields: towards the dual algebraic framework. IEEE Transactions on Automatic Control, 62 (6), 3029−3033.10.1109/TAC.2016.2608718.
1.1.2017
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2017). Input-output decoupling of discrete-time nonlinear systems by dynamic measurement feedback. European Journal of Control, 34, 31−38.10.1016/j.ejcon.2016.12.004.
1.1.2017
Belikov, Juri; Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2017). Global linearization approach to nonlinear control systems: a brief tutorial overview. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 66 (3), 243−263.10.3176/proc.2017.3.01.
1.1.2017
Belikov, Juri; Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey; Tõnso, Maris; Zhirabok, Alexey (2017). Functions' algebra in nonlinear control: computational aspects and software. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 66 (1), 89−107.10.3176/proc.2017.1.06.
1.1.2017
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2017). On the differentiation of a composite function with a generalized vector argument on homogeneous time scales. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 66 (3), 309−322.10.3176/proc.2017.3.04.
1.1.2017
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey; Zhirabok, Alexey (2017). Feedback linearization of possibly non-smooth systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 66 (2), 109−123.10.3176/proc.2017.2.01.
1.1.2017
Mystkowski, Arkadiusz; Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle; Pawluszewicz, Ewa; Tõnso, Maris (2017). Feedback linearization of an active magnetic bearing system operated with a zero-bias flux. International Journal of Applied Mathematics and Computer Science, 27 (3), 539−548.10.1515/amcs-2017-0038.
1.1.2017
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2017). Flatness based control of a HVAC system. Information Technology and Control, 46 (4), 499−507.10.5755/j01.itc.46.4.17697.
3.1.2017
Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris (2017). NLControl - a Mathematica package for nonlinear control systems. 20th IFAC World Congress : Toulouse, France, 9-14 July 2017, Proceedings. Ed. Dochain, Denis; Henrion, Didier; Peaucelle, Dimitri. IFAC, 681−686. (IFAC-PapersOnLine; 50-1).10.1016/j.ifacol.2017.08.122.
1.1.2016
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2016). On the transformation of a nonlinear discrete-time input-output system into the strong row-reduced form. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 65 (3), 220−236.10.3176/proc.2016.3.02.
1.1.2016
Kaldmäe, A; Kotta, Ü.; Jiang, B.; Shumsky, A.; Zhirabok, A. (2016). Faulty plant reconfiguration based on disturbance decoupling methods. Asian Journal of Control, 18 (3), 858−867.10.1002/asjc.1185.
1.1.2016
Kawano, Yu; Kotta, Ülle; Moog, Claude H. (2016). Any dynamical system is fully accessible through one single actuator and related problems. International Journal of Robust and Nonlinear Control, 26 (8), 1748−1754.10.1002/rnc.3379.
1.1.2016
Bartosiewicz,Zbigniew; Kotta,Ülle; Mullari,Tanel; Tõnso,Maris; Pawluszewicz,Ewa; Wyrwas,Malgorzata (2016). Nabla derivatives associated with nonlinear control systems on homogeneous time scales. Nonlinear Analysis: Modelling and Control, 21 (4), 547−563.10.15388/NA.2016.4.8.
1.1.2016
Soudari, M.; Srinivasan, S.; Balasubramanian, S.; Vain, J.; Kotta, U. (2016). Learning based personalized energy management systems for residential buildings. Energy and Buildings, 127, 953−968.10.1016/j.enbuild.2016.05.059.
1.1.2016
Bartosiewicz, Zbigniew; Kotta, Ülle; Tõnso, Maris; Wyrwas, Malgorzata (2016). Accessibility conditions of MIMO nonlinear control systems on homogeneous time scales. Mathematical Control and Related Fields, 6 (2), 217−250.10.3934/mcrf.2016002.
1.1.2016
Belikov, Juri; Kotta, Ülle; Tepljakov, Aleksei (2016). Algebraic approach for analysis and control of a water tank system. Information Technology And Control, 45 (2), 175−183.10.5755/j01.itc.45.2.13212.
1.1.2016
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey; Zhirabok, Alexey (2016). Disturbance decoupling by measurement feedback: sensor location. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 65 (4), 317−329.10.3176/proc.2016.4.05.
1.1.2016
Kawano, Yu; Kotta, Ülle (2016). Single-experiment observability decomposition of discrete-time analytic systems. Systems & Control Letters, 97, 193−199.10.1016/j.sysconle.2016.09.016.
1.1.2016
Bartosiewicz, Z.; Kotta, Ü.; Mullari, T.; Tõnso, M.; Wyrwas, M. (2016). On accessibility conditions for state space nonlinear control systems on homogeneous time scales. Systems & Control Letters, 98, 8−13.10.1016/j.sysconle.2016.09.018.
3.1.2016
Ciulkin, Monika; Pawłuszewicz, Ewa; Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2016). Linearization by generalized input-output injections on homogeneous time scales. 2016 21st International Conference on Methods and Models in Automation and Robotics : [Miedzyzdroje, Poland, 29 August - 1 September, 2016]. IEEE, 48−53.10.1109/MMAR.2016.7575086.
3.1.2016
Kaldmäe, A.; Kotta, Ü.; Shumsky, A.; Zhirabok, A. (2016). Disturbance decoupling in nonlinear hybrid systems. 12th IEEE International Conference on Control & Automation (ICCA) : Kathmandu, Nepal, June 1-3, 2016. IEEE, 86−91.10.1109/ICCA.2016.7505257.
3.1.2016
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey; Zhirabok, Alexey (2016). Disturbance decoupling problem in finite automata: sensor location problem. MSC 2016 : IEEE Multi-Conference on Systems and Control, Buenos Aires, Argentina, September 19-22, 2016. IEEE, 481−486.10.1109/CCA.2016.7587876.
3.1.2016
Kolar, Bernd; Kaldmäe, Arvo; Schöberl, Markus; Kotta, Ülle; Schlacher, Kurt (2016). Construction of flat outputs of nonlinear discrete-time systems in a geometric and an algebraic framework. 10th IFAC Symposium on Nonlinear Control Systems (NOLCOS) : Monterey, California, USA, 23-25 August 2016, Proceedings. Ed. Teel, Andrew. Elsevier, 796−801. (IFAC-PapersOnLine; 49-18).10.1016/j.ifacol.2016.10.263.
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Publikatsioon
1.1.2018
Kaparin, V.; Kotta, Ü. (2018). Transformation of nonlinear discrete-time system into the extended observer form. International Journal of Control, 91 (4), 848−858.10.1080/00207179.2017.1294264.
1.1.2018
Kotta, Ü.; Belikov, J.; Halįs, M.; Leibak, A. (2018). Degree of Dieudonné determinant defines the order of nonlinear system. International Journal of Control.10.1080/00207179.2017.1361042 [ilmumas].
1.1.2018
Mystkowski, Arkadiusz; Kotta, Ülle; Kaparin, Vadim (2018). Newton observer for a nonlinear flux-controlled AMB system. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 67 (1), 61−72.10.3176/proc.2018.1.03.
1.1.2018
Kotta, Ülle; Moog, Claude H.; Tõnso, Maris (2018). Remarks on realization of time-varying systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 67, x [ilmumas].
1.1.2018
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey; Zhirabok, Alexey (2018). Disturbance decoupling in nonlinear hybrid systems. Nonlinear Analysis: Hybrid Systems, 28, 42−53.10.1016/j.nahs.2017.11.001.
1.1.2018
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2018). Realization of time-delay systems. Automatica, 90, 317−320.10.1016/j.automatica.2018.01.001.
1.1.2018
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2018). Transformation of nonlinear MIMO discrete-time systems into the extended observer form. Asian Journal of Control [ilmumas].
1.1.2018
Kotta, Ülle; Moog, Claude H.; Tõnso, Maris (2018). Minimal realizations of nonlinear systems. Automatica, x [ilmumas].
1.1.2018
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2018). Realization of nonlinear input-output equations in controller canonical form. Kybernetika, x [ilmumas].
1.1.2018
Mullari, T.; Kotta, Ü.; Bartosiewicz, Z.; Sarafrazi, A.; Moog, C.H.; Pawluszewicz, E. (2018). Weak reachability and controllability of discrete-time nonlinear systems: generic approach and singular points. International Journal of Control, x [ilmumas].
3.1.2018
Srinivasan, Seshadhri; Saravanakumar, G.; Subathra, B.; Sundarajan, N.; Kotta, Ülle; Ramasamy, Srini; Balas, Valentina E. (2018). Adaptive controller for networked control systems subjected to random communication delays. Soft Computing Applications : Proceedings of the 7th International Workshop Soft Computing Applications, (SOFA 2016), Volume. Ed. Balas, V.E.; et al. Cham: Springer, 78−94. (Advances in Intelligent Systems and Computing; 633).10.1007/978-3-319-62521-8_8.
1.1.2018
Kaparin, V.; Kotta, Ü. (2018). Transformation of nonlinear discrete-time system into the extended observer form. International Journal of Control, 91 (4), 848−858.10.1080/00207179.2017.1294264.
1.1.2018
Kotta, Ü.; Belikov, J.; Halįs, M.; Leibak, A. (2018). Degree of Dieudonné determinant defines the order of nonlinear system. International Journal of Control.10.1080/00207179.2017.1361042 [ilmumas].
1.1.2018
Mystkowski, Arkadiusz; Kotta, Ülle; Kaparin, Vadim (2018). Newton observer for a nonlinear flux-controlled AMB system. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 67 (1), 61−72.10.3176/proc.2018.1.03.
1.1.2018
Kotta, Ülle; Moog, Claude H.; Tõnso, Maris (2018). Remarks on realization of time-varying systems. Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences, 67, x [ilmumas].
1.1.2018
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle; Shumsky, Alexey; Zhirabok, Alexey (2018). Disturbance decoupling in nonlinear hybrid systems. Nonlinear Analysis: Hybrid Systems, 28, 42−53.10.1016/j.nahs.2017.11.001.
1.1.2018
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2018). Realization of time-delay systems. Automatica, 90, 317−320.10.1016/j.automatica.2018.01.001.
1.1.2018
Kaparin, Vadim; Kotta, Ülle (2018). Transformation of nonlinear MIMO discrete-time systems into the extended observer form. Asian Journal of Control [ilmumas].
1.1.2018
Kotta, Ülle; Moog, Claude H.; Tõnso, Maris (2018). Minimal realizations of nonlinear systems. Automatica, x [ilmumas].
1.1.2018
Kaldmäe, Arvo; Kotta, Ülle (2018). Realization of nonlinear input-output equations in controller canonical form. Kybernetika, x [ilmumas].
1.1.2018
Mullari, T.; Kotta, Ü.; Bartosiewicz, Z.; Sarafrazi, A.; Moog, C.H.; Pawluszewicz, E. (2018). Weak reachability and controllability of discrete-time nonlinear systems: generic approach and singular points. International Journal of Control, x [ilmumas].
3.1.2018
Srinivasan, Seshadhri; Saravanakumar, G.; Subathra, B.; Sundarajan, N.; Kotta, Ülle; Ramasamy, Srini; Balas, Valentina E. (2018). Adaptive controller for networked control systems subjected to random communication delays. Soft Computing Applications : Proceedings of the 7th International Workshop Soft Computing Applications, (SOFA 2016), Volume. Ed. Balas, V.E.; et al. Cham: Springer, 78−94. (Advances in Intelligent Systems and Computing; 633).10.1007/978-3-319-62521-8_8.
29 April 2018 15:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Juhendatud väitekirjad
Arvo Kaldmäe, doktorikraad, 2016, (juh) Ülle Kotta; Claude Moog, Advanced design of nonlinear discrete-time and delayed systems (Diskreetsete ja hilistumistega mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide süntees), Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
Arvo Kaldmäe, doktorikraad, 2016, (juh) Ülle Kotta; Claude Moog, Synthèse des systèmes non linéaires en temps discret et à retards (Diskreetsete ja hilistumistega mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide süntees), Ecole Centrale de Nantes.
Vadim Kaparin, doktorikraad, 2013, (_MentorshipDisplay_SupervisorAbbr) Ülle Kotta, Transformation of Nonlinear State Equations into Observer Form (Mittelineaarsete olekuvõrrandite olekutaastaja kujule teisendamine), Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
Maris Tõnso, doktorikraad, 2010, (_MentorshipDisplay_SupervisorAbbr) Ülle Kotta, Computer algebra tools for modelling, analysis and synthesis for nonlinear control systems (Computer algebra tools for modelling, analysis and synthesis for nonlinear control systems), Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
Sven Nõmm, doktorikraad, 2004, (_MentorshipDisplay_SupervisorAbbr) Claude Moog; Ülle Kotta, Realisation et identification des systemes non lineaires en temps dscret (Diskreetsete mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide realisatsioon ja identifitseerimine), Ecole Centrale de Nantes Universite de Nantes.
Sven Nõmm, doktorikraad, 2004, (juh) Ülle Kotta; Claude Moog, Realization and Identification of Discrete-Time Nonlinear Systems (Diskreetsete mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide realisatsioon ja identifitseerimine), Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
Arvo Kaldmäe, magistrikraad, 2012, (_MentorshipDisplay_SupervisorAbbr) Ellen Redi; Ülle Kotta, Disturbance Decoupling of Nonlinear Control Systems (Häiringu kompenseerimine mittelineaarsetes juhtimissüsteemides), Tallinna Ülikool, Matemaatika ja Loodusteaduste Instituut, Matemaatika osakond.
Vadim Kaparin, magistrikraad, 2008, (_MentorshipDisplay_SupervisorAbbr) Maris Tõnso; Ülle Kotta, Nonlinear Control Systems with Computer Algebra System MATHEMATICA: Observability and Observer Forms (Mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide vaadeldavuse kontroll ja olekutaastaja konstrueerimine paketi MATHEMATICA abil), Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, Infotehnoloogia teaduskond, Automaatikainstituut.
Heli Rennik, magistrikraad, 2008, (_MentorshipDisplay_SupervisorAbbr) Ülle Kotta; Maris Tõnso, Solving modeling, analysis and synthesis problems for nonlinear control systems using webMathematica (Mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide modelleerimis-, analüüsi- ja sünteesiülesannete lahendamine 'webMathematica' abil), Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
Janek Tabun, magistrikraad, 2006, (juh) Ülle Kotta; Sven Nõmm, Mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide identifitseeritavus sümbolalgebra süsteemi "Mathematica" abil, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool.
Eo Feldmann, magistrikraad, 2002, (juh) Ülle Kotta, Reklaamikasumi prognoos Äripäeva Kirjastuse AS näitel., Concordia Rahvusvaheline Ülikool Eestis.
Maris Tõnso, magistrikraad (teaduskraad), 2000, (juh) Ülle Kotta, Sümbolarvutuse võimalused mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide modelleerimisel "Mathematica" baasil, Tallinna Ülikool.
Publikatsioonid
KlassAasta
Arvo Kaldmäe, doktorikraad, 2016, (juh) Ülle Kotta; Claude Moog, Advanced design of nonlinear discrete-time and delayed systems (Diskreetsete ja hilistumistega mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide süntees), Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
Arvo Kaldmäe, doktorikraad, 2016, (juh) Ülle Kotta; Claude Moog, Synthèse des systèmes non linéaires en temps discret et à retards (Diskreetsete ja hilistumistega mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide süntees), Ecole Centrale de Nantes.
Vadim Kaparin, doktorikraad, 2013, (_MentorshipDisplay_SupervisorAbbr) Ülle Kotta, Transformation of Nonlinear State Equations into Observer Form (Mittelineaarsete olekuvõrrandite olekutaastaja kujule teisendamine), Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
Maris Tõnso, doktorikraad, 2010, (_MentorshipDisplay_SupervisorAbbr) Ülle Kotta, Computer algebra tools for modelling, analysis and synthesis for nonlinear control systems (Computer algebra tools for modelling, analysis and synthesis for nonlinear control systems), Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
Sven Nõmm, doktorikraad, 2004, (_MentorshipDisplay_SupervisorAbbr) Claude Moog; Ülle Kotta, Realisation et identification des systemes non lineaires en temps dscret (Diskreetsete mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide realisatsioon ja identifitseerimine), Ecole Centrale de Nantes Universite de Nantes.
Sven Nõmm, doktorikraad, 2004, (juh) Ülle Kotta; Claude Moog, Realization and Identification of Discrete-Time Nonlinear Systems (Diskreetsete mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide realisatsioon ja identifitseerimine), Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
Arvo Kaldmäe, magistrikraad, 2012, (_MentorshipDisplay_SupervisorAbbr) Ellen Redi; Ülle Kotta, Disturbance Decoupling of Nonlinear Control Systems (Häiringu kompenseerimine mittelineaarsetes juhtimissüsteemides), Tallinna Ülikool, Matemaatika ja Loodusteaduste Instituut, Matemaatika osakond.
Vadim Kaparin, magistrikraad, 2008, (_MentorshipDisplay_SupervisorAbbr) Maris Tõnso; Ülle Kotta, Nonlinear Control Systems with Computer Algebra System MATHEMATICA: Observability and Observer Forms (Mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide vaadeldavuse kontroll ja olekutaastaja konstrueerimine paketi MATHEMATICA abil), Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, Infotehnoloogia teaduskond, Automaatikainstituut.
Heli Rennik, magistrikraad, 2008, (_MentorshipDisplay_SupervisorAbbr) Ülle Kotta; Maris Tõnso, Solving modeling, analysis and synthesis problems for nonlinear control systems using webMathematica (Mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide modelleerimis-, analüüsi- ja sünteesiülesannete lahendamine 'webMathematica' abil), Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
Janek Tabun, magistrikraad, 2006, (juh) Ülle Kotta; Sven Nõmm, Mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide identifitseeritavus sümbolalgebra süsteemi "Mathematica" abil, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool.
Eo Feldmann, magistrikraad, 2002, (juh) Ülle Kotta, Reklaamikasumi prognoos Äripäeva Kirjastuse AS näitel., Concordia Rahvusvaheline Ülikool Eestis.
Maris Tõnso, magistrikraad (teaduskraad), 2000, (juh) Ülle Kotta, Sümbolarvutuse võimalused mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide modelleerimisel "Mathematica" baasil, Tallinna Ülikool.
Publikatsioonid
KlassAasta
29 April 2018 15:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Töökohad ja ametid
01.01.2017–... Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, Infotehnoloogia teaduskond, Tarkvarateaduse instituut, Juhtivteadur (1,00)
17.03.2014–31.12.2016 Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut, juhtimissüsteemide laboratooriumi juhataja
2005–31.12.2016 Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut, Juhtivteadur (1,00)
01.01.2003–31.12.2008 Concordia Audentes Rahvusvaheline Ülikool; professor
1997–2005 Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut, Vanemteadur (1,00)
1997–2009 Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut, Asedirektor (0,50)
01.01.1996–31.12.2003 Concordia Rahvusvaheline Ülikool; professor
01.01.1993–31.12.1997 ETA Küberneetika Instituut; juhtivteadur
01.01.1982–31.12.1993 ETA Küberneetika Instituut, vanemteadur
01.01.1978–31.12.1992 Tallinna Tehnikaülikool; vanemõpetaja
01.01.1974–31.12.1982 ENSV TA Küberneetika Instituut; nooremteadur
01.01.1971–31.12.1974 ENSV TA Küberneetika Instituut; vaneminsener
01.01.1970–31.12.1971 ENSV TA Küberneetika Instituut; insener
Haridustee
1974–1977 ENSV Teaduste Akadeemia Küberneetika Instituut, tehnikateadused (aspirantuur)
1966–1971 Tartu Riiklik Ülikool, matemaatika (bakalaureuseõpe ja magistratuur)
Teadusorganisatsiooniline ja -administratiivne tegevus
2011−... IEEE TC-CACS Action Group on Polynomial Methods for Control System Design esimees
2011−... ajakirja "Acta Mechanica et Automatica" toimetaja
2007−... ajakirja "Eesti Teaduste Akadeemia Toimetised (Füüs. Mat.)" toimetuskolleegiumi liige
1997−... mitmete rahvusvaheliste konverentside, seminaride, nõupidamiste programm- ja korraldava komitee liige (näit ECC, NOLCOS, IFAC World Congress, UKACC)
1995−... IFAC'i mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide töörühma liige
2011−2017 TTÜ akadeemilise kohtu VII ja VIII koosseisu liige
2009−2016 TTÜ Küberneetika Instituudi Nõukogu liige
2007−2010 ajakirja Abstract and Applied Analysis" (Hindawi Publishing Corporation) toimetuskolleegiumi liige (associate editor)
1998−2013 HTMi sihtfinantseeritavate teemade juht
1997−2009 TTÜ Küberneetika Instituudi Nõukogu aseesimees
1997−2009 TTÜ Küberneetika Instituudi asedirektor
Loometöö
Erialane monograafia "Inversion Method in the Discrete-time Nonlinear Control Systems Synthesis Problems" (LN Cont and Inf Sc-s, Springer, 1995).;
Üle 150 artiklit eelretseeritavates erialaajakirjades.;
Üle 150 artikli rahvusvaheliste eelretsenseeritavate konverentside kogumikes;
Kvalifikatsioon
Teaduskraadid
Ülle Kotta, doktorikraad, 1993, (juh) Pööramismeetod diskreetsete mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide sünteesiülesannetes (Pööramismeetod diskreetsete mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide sünteesiülesannetes), Süsteemanalüüsi Instituut, Vene Teaduste Akadeemia, VAK, Moskva.
Ülle Kotta, doktorikraad, 1980, (juh) Ülo Jaaksoo, Mitme sisendi ja mitme väljundiga lineaarsete statsionaarsete dünaamiliste süsteemide identifitseerimine (Mitme sisendi ja mitme väljundiga lineaarsete statsionaarsete dünaamiliste süsteemide identifitseerimine), ENSV Teaduste Akadeemia Küberneetika Instituut, Tallinn.
Teaduspreemiad ja tunnustused
1996, Ülle Kotta, Eesti Vabariigi Teaduspreemia (tehnikateadused)
Teadustöö põhisuunad
VALDKOND: 4. Loodusteadused ja tehnika; 4.13. Mehhanotehnika, automaatika, tööstustehnoloogia; PÕHISUUND: mittelineaarsed juhtimissüsteemid: modelleerimine, analüüs ja süntees
VALDKOND: 4. Loodusteadused ja tehnika; 4.4. Matemaatika; PÕHISUUND: juhtimisteooria matemaatilised meetodid
Lisainfo
Ülle Kotta, DSc (mitte PhD), 1993, Pööramismeetod diskreetsete mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide sünteesiülesannetes, Süsteemanalüüsi Instituut, Vene Teaduste Akadeemia, VAK, Moskva
Jooksvad projektid
TAR16013 (EXCITE) "IT Tippkeskus EXCITE (1.09.2016−1.03.2023)", Maarja Kruusmaa, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, Infotehnoloogia teaduskond, Biorobootika keskus, Tartu Ülikool, Loodus- ja täppisteaduste valdkond, arvutiteaduse instituut, Tartu Ülikool, Loodus- ja täppisteaduste valdkond, tehnoloogiainstituut, Cybernetica AS.
Lõppenud projektid
PUT481 "Juhtimissüsteemide modelleerimine: teooria, algoritmid, tarkvara (1.01.2014−31.12.2017)", Maris Tõnso, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, Infotehnoloogia teaduskond, Tarkvarateaduse instituut, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
TK124 "Mittelineaarsete protsesside analüüsi keskus (1.01.2011−31.12.2015)", Jüri Engelbrecht, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut, Tartu Ülikool, Loodus- ja tehnoloogiateaduskond, Tartu Ülikooli Füüsika Instituut.
ETF8787 "Arvutialgebra meetodid juhtimissüsteemides (1.01.2011−31.12.2014)", Maris Tõnso, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
ETF8365 "Inimliigutuste tuvastamine ja modelleerimene (1.01.2010−31.12.2013)", Sven Nõmm, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
SF0140018s08 "Keerukate mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide süntees (1.01.2008−31.12.2013)", Ülle Kotta, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
ETF6922 "Juhtimissüsteemid ajaskaaladel (1.01.2007−31.12.2010)", Ülle Kotta, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
ETF6884 "NARX-mudelite identifitseeritavus ja identifitseerimine (Minu esimene grant) (1.01.2006−31.12.2009)", Sven Nõmm, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
SF0322520s03 "Mittelineaarsed ja hübriidsed juhtimissüsteemid (1.01.2003−31.12.2007)", Ülle Kotta, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
ETF5405 "Mittelineaarsed juhtimissüsteemid: teooriast läbi algoritmide programmipaketini (1.01.2003−31.12.2006)", Ülle Kotta, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
G4707 "Algebralised meetodid mittelineaarsetes juhtimissüsteemides (1.01.2001−31.12.2004)", Ülle Kotta, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
G3738 "Rekursiivsed juhtimissüsteemid (1.01.1999−31.12.2002)", Ülle Kotta, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
SF320201s98 "Lähendusmeetodid mittelineaarsetes matemaatilistes mudelites ja juhtimissüsteemides (1.01.1998−31.12.2002)", Ülle Kotta, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
https://www.etis.ee/Portal/Persons/Display/5329b666-7738-4bda-a16c-7c4b9c99816e
01.01.2017–... Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, Infotehnoloogia teaduskond, Tarkvarateaduse instituut, Juhtivteadur (1,00)
17.03.2014–31.12.2016 Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut, juhtimissüsteemide laboratooriumi juhataja
2005–31.12.2016 Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut, Juhtivteadur (1,00)
01.01.2003–31.12.2008 Concordia Audentes Rahvusvaheline Ülikool; professor
1997–2005 Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut, Vanemteadur (1,00)
1997–2009 Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut, Asedirektor (0,50)
01.01.1996–31.12.2003 Concordia Rahvusvaheline Ülikool; professor
01.01.1993–31.12.1997 ETA Küberneetika Instituut; juhtivteadur
01.01.1982–31.12.1993 ETA Küberneetika Instituut, vanemteadur
01.01.1978–31.12.1992 Tallinna Tehnikaülikool; vanemõpetaja
01.01.1974–31.12.1982 ENSV TA Küberneetika Instituut; nooremteadur
01.01.1971–31.12.1974 ENSV TA Küberneetika Instituut; vaneminsener
01.01.1970–31.12.1971 ENSV TA Küberneetika Instituut; insener
Haridustee
1974–1977 ENSV Teaduste Akadeemia Küberneetika Instituut, tehnikateadused (aspirantuur)
1966–1971 Tartu Riiklik Ülikool, matemaatika (bakalaureuseõpe ja magistratuur)
Teadusorganisatsiooniline ja -administratiivne tegevus
2011−... IEEE TC-CACS Action Group on Polynomial Methods for Control System Design esimees
2011−... ajakirja "Acta Mechanica et Automatica" toimetaja
2007−... ajakirja "Eesti Teaduste Akadeemia Toimetised (Füüs. Mat.)" toimetuskolleegiumi liige
1997−... mitmete rahvusvaheliste konverentside, seminaride, nõupidamiste programm- ja korraldava komitee liige (näit ECC, NOLCOS, IFAC World Congress, UKACC)
1995−... IFAC'i mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide töörühma liige
2011−2017 TTÜ akadeemilise kohtu VII ja VIII koosseisu liige
2009−2016 TTÜ Küberneetika Instituudi Nõukogu liige
2007−2010 ajakirja Abstract and Applied Analysis" (Hindawi Publishing Corporation) toimetuskolleegiumi liige (associate editor)
1998−2013 HTMi sihtfinantseeritavate teemade juht
1997−2009 TTÜ Küberneetika Instituudi Nõukogu aseesimees
1997−2009 TTÜ Küberneetika Instituudi asedirektor
Loometöö
Erialane monograafia "Inversion Method in the Discrete-time Nonlinear Control Systems Synthesis Problems" (LN Cont and Inf Sc-s, Springer, 1995).;
Üle 150 artiklit eelretseeritavates erialaajakirjades.;
Üle 150 artikli rahvusvaheliste eelretsenseeritavate konverentside kogumikes;
Kvalifikatsioon
Teaduskraadid
Ülle Kotta, doktorikraad, 1993, (juh) Pööramismeetod diskreetsete mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide sünteesiülesannetes (Pööramismeetod diskreetsete mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide sünteesiülesannetes), Süsteemanalüüsi Instituut, Vene Teaduste Akadeemia, VAK, Moskva.
Ülle Kotta, doktorikraad, 1980, (juh) Ülo Jaaksoo, Mitme sisendi ja mitme väljundiga lineaarsete statsionaarsete dünaamiliste süsteemide identifitseerimine (Mitme sisendi ja mitme väljundiga lineaarsete statsionaarsete dünaamiliste süsteemide identifitseerimine), ENSV Teaduste Akadeemia Küberneetika Instituut, Tallinn.
Teaduspreemiad ja tunnustused
1996, Ülle Kotta, Eesti Vabariigi Teaduspreemia (tehnikateadused)
Teadustöö põhisuunad
VALDKOND: 4. Loodusteadused ja tehnika; 4.13. Mehhanotehnika, automaatika, tööstustehnoloogia; PÕHISUUND: mittelineaarsed juhtimissüsteemid: modelleerimine, analüüs ja süntees
VALDKOND: 4. Loodusteadused ja tehnika; 4.4. Matemaatika; PÕHISUUND: juhtimisteooria matemaatilised meetodid
Lisainfo
Ülle Kotta, DSc (mitte PhD), 1993, Pööramismeetod diskreetsete mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide sünteesiülesannetes, Süsteemanalüüsi Instituut, Vene Teaduste Akadeemia, VAK, Moskva
Jooksvad projektid
TAR16013 (EXCITE) "IT Tippkeskus EXCITE (1.09.2016−1.03.2023)", Maarja Kruusmaa, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, Infotehnoloogia teaduskond, Biorobootika keskus, Tartu Ülikool, Loodus- ja täppisteaduste valdkond, arvutiteaduse instituut, Tartu Ülikool, Loodus- ja täppisteaduste valdkond, tehnoloogiainstituut, Cybernetica AS.
Lõppenud projektid
PUT481 "Juhtimissüsteemide modelleerimine: teooria, algoritmid, tarkvara (1.01.2014−31.12.2017)", Maris Tõnso, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, Infotehnoloogia teaduskond, Tarkvarateaduse instituut, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
TK124 "Mittelineaarsete protsesside analüüsi keskus (1.01.2011−31.12.2015)", Jüri Engelbrecht, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut, Tartu Ülikool, Loodus- ja tehnoloogiateaduskond, Tartu Ülikooli Füüsika Instituut.
ETF8787 "Arvutialgebra meetodid juhtimissüsteemides (1.01.2011−31.12.2014)", Maris Tõnso, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
ETF8365 "Inimliigutuste tuvastamine ja modelleerimene (1.01.2010−31.12.2013)", Sven Nõmm, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
SF0140018s08 "Keerukate mittelineaarsete juhtimissüsteemide süntees (1.01.2008−31.12.2013)", Ülle Kotta, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
ETF6922 "Juhtimissüsteemid ajaskaaladel (1.01.2007−31.12.2010)", Ülle Kotta, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
ETF6884 "NARX-mudelite identifitseeritavus ja identifitseerimine (Minu esimene grant) (1.01.2006−31.12.2009)", Sven Nõmm, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
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ETF5405 "Mittelineaarsed juhtimissüsteemid: teooriast läbi algoritmide programmipaketini (1.01.2003−31.12.2006)", Ülle Kotta, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
G4707 "Algebralised meetodid mittelineaarsetes juhtimissüsteemides (1.01.2001−31.12.2004)", Ülle Kotta, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
G3738 "Rekursiivsed juhtimissüsteemid (1.01.1999−31.12.2002)", Ülle Kotta, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, TTÜ Küberneetika Instituut.
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29 April 2018 15:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
See kaadri vaade kus mehest suumis kuigi moderne kunsti kallakuga... alguses.. eemale.. ja siis autod eemal ja linn... nu see oli ka timm,
Muidugi näitamaks ka... et need ikkagi linna inimesed..29 April 2018 15:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid WordPressi osas veel hoiame sidet, see alustuseks hea
29 April 2018 14:38
Margus Meigo commented on Heikki Saabas's post.
PS: Kassid muidugi on ehmunud kui nad kõrvu nii hoiavad, enamasti selle peale kes neid sedasi ehmatab kaameraga tooaeg kui keegi ennast rahulikult pesta soovib, kuid see selleks.
Ja ega paljud inimesetki, käituks veidralt, kui nad oma tussi pesevad ja keegi võõras seda filmida proovib, nu lihtsalt näitena,
Kuid see algusmõte, mis posti alguses, jääb ka ikkagi kehtima, mõtte salvestuseks, reaalsus versioniks
Ja ega paljud inimesetki, käituks veidralt, kui nad oma tussi pesevad ja keegi võõras seda filmida proovib, nu lihtsalt näitena,
Kuid see algusmõte, mis posti alguses, jääb ka ikkagi kehtima, mõtte salvestuseks, reaalsus versioniks
29 April 2018 13:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
420 Osas
29 April 2018 04:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/Viljandi/Recordings/Voice%20recordings/
29 April 2018 04:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Katy, // loveenergy theory and much more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pllRW9wETzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pllRW9wETzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pllRW9wETzw
29 April 2018 04:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja see on ka he,a et nad näitasid mis moodi kommunistid ka hippi struktuure inflateerisid.. Kuid .. arusaama oleks pidanud, panema inimesed,
et niisama laaberdamine ja ainte suvaline tarbimine ilma Jumala teenimiset,a et TEISTELE head tuua ja Teha, see on mõte enim, suurim, põhiline...
mis asendati hullute laksudega linnainimeste poolt, kellel jomise mentaliteet oli ajudes,
hippid ei laaberda, ei joo,kui nad on rattale jäänud, kellel kett maas... see iseasi...
Nad nad ühiskonna versiooon šamaanidest,
nagu lipsuga loodusteadlased, kelle juba habe kasvab
et niisama laaberdamine ja ainte suvaline tarbimine ilma Jumala teenimiset,a et TEISTELE head tuua ja Teha, see on mõte enim, suurim, põhiline...
mis asendati hullute laksudega linnainimeste poolt, kellel jomise mentaliteet oli ajudes,
hippid ei laaberda, ei joo,kui nad on rattale jäänud, kellel kett maas... see iseasi...
Nad nad ühiskonna versiooon šamaanidest,
nagu lipsuga loodusteadlased, kelle juba habe kasvab
29 April 2018 04:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hea, et mul näidendi tesieks pooleks happe toimima hakkas,
teine pool näidendist tundus juba, et päästab olukorra,
vb oli see aga lihtsalt üle püüdlikult positiivseks olukorra mõtlemine mis seda sedasi näitas,
samas tänud ikka, et üldse teeemat, olgugi et ebaõigelt, ja läbi nõiakunsti mis oli Systeemi poolt loodud hippinduse vastu,
et üldse teemat lavale julgeti kaudselt tuuagi.
Sellele see järgi #eluteatrist, ehk annab sisu ja mõtet edasi mida juba kasutada saab mõtteaineks
kui agea leian audio komplekteerida
muidu laen Viljandi kausta (ministeeriumi lehel) mustamaeteriali üles
kel huvi, see teab kus see on v küsib
teine pool näidendist tundus juba, et päästab olukorra,
vb oli see aga lihtsalt üle püüdlikult positiivseks olukorra mõtlemine mis seda sedasi näitas,
samas tänud ikka, et üldse teeemat, olgugi et ebaõigelt, ja läbi nõiakunsti mis oli Systeemi poolt loodud hippinduse vastu,
et üldse teemat lavale julgeti kaudselt tuuagi.
Sellele see järgi #eluteatrist, ehk annab sisu ja mõtet edasi mida juba kasutada saab mõtteaineks
kui agea leian audio komplekteerida
muidu laen Viljandi kausta (ministeeriumi lehel) mustamaeteriali üles
kel huvi, see teab kus see on v küsib
29 April 2018 04:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kujutage ette,
selline Hipide teemaline näidend,
kus teema kül ainukene keskne, mis väärt oli ainuke reaalne, et vaja kommunism lammutada...
Kuid kogu selle aja jooksul nad ei maininud otseselt ka kanepit ja LSD d... nu selleks, et teada anda, et Censor ja Kommunism siiani lokkab.. üks eesriie on langenud, kuid lipsud on endiselt siin & Censor reaalsuse ees,
kus ei jugeta ausat näidendit ja korraliku asja teha sellel teemal...
siis tehakse palju nõiakunsti, ja
topitakse vahele veel ebavajalikke hulle trippe mille sisu valetmoodi saadakse pealtvaataja poolt aru (nagu see "pesen verega hambaid tseen, minutine" ..kas oli sedasi vaja, arusaadav ? ..ja enamus muu ka, külma tseen, kus teatud ainet imiteeriti, see oli päris kiiduväärt osa .. ja veel arusaadev oli ja Üks narukoht kus kom partei vanemate juures rikas hippi poiss "Systeemist" eemale pöörab.. veel vanematele mainides, et... see grupp mida nad süsteemiks kutsusid.. et .... ja siis ema ütleb ontliku optimismi ja patriootlikusega "Kommunism on ka süsteem" )
selline Hipide teemaline näidend,
kus teema kül ainukene keskne, mis väärt oli ainuke reaalne, et vaja kommunism lammutada...
Kuid kogu selle aja jooksul nad ei maininud otseselt ka kanepit ja LSD d... nu selleks, et teada anda, et Censor ja Kommunism siiani lokkab.. üks eesriie on langenud, kuid lipsud on endiselt siin & Censor reaalsuse ees,
kus ei jugeta ausat näidendit ja korraliku asja teha sellel teemal...
siis tehakse palju nõiakunsti, ja
topitakse vahele veel ebavajalikke hulle trippe mille sisu valetmoodi saadakse pealtvaataja poolt aru (nagu see "pesen verega hambaid tseen, minutine" ..kas oli sedasi vaja, arusaadav ? ..ja enamus muu ka, külma tseen, kus teatud ainet imiteeriti, see oli päris kiiduväärt osa .. ja veel arusaadev oli ja Üks narukoht kus kom partei vanemate juures rikas hippi poiss "Systeemist" eemale pöörab.. veel vanematele mainides, et... see grupp mida nad süsteemiks kutsusid.. et .... ja siis ema ütleb ontliku optimismi ja patriootlikusega "Kommunism on ka süsteem" )
29 April 2018 04:01
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29 April 2018 03:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aitäh Lilika Ly ! : ))
Ootan huviga pilte
Ootan huviga pilte
29 April 2018 03:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sakala
29 April 2018 03:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Allar Kaljundi remeber that :D
29 April 2018 03:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
for hte ones who need, to understand times & more cues to information then university ever can fit, in current settings
29 April 2018 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In the end of video description, under the video in Yt,
some links also that helps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY&list=PLsXelNZnKcxnWDnxpja771qWx1ctXFPHl
some links also that helps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY&list=PLsXelNZnKcxnWDnxpja771qWx1ctXFPHl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY&list=PLsXelNZnKcxnWDnxpja771qWx1ctXFPHl
29 April 2018 03:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tänud Heiki !
29 April 2018 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Like in here, whne them forgot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co-dorhinoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co-dorhinoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co-dorhinoo
29 April 2018 03:28
Margus Meigo commented on Genius Cute's video.
Like in here, whne they forget:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co-dorhinoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co-dorhinoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co-dorhinoo
29 April 2018 03:28
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Ravenna's post.
+ https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/activity/10214852548203987
29 April 2018 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on Čijen Vopice's photo.
FInally in destination crossing!
Blue-White & Black (Earth) : ))
Blue-White & Black (Earth) : ))
29 April 2018 02:27
Margus Meigo commented on Čijen Vopice's photo.
The Churts what we call "Green Church"
as for cannabis and for it looks green in night ... and have been most amount promoted magic mushrooms and marijuana in there. To connect church'es with reality & people.
The man who's church it is called to be, is Jaan Tammsalu - he is one of the most high respected Priests who knows old native story's as well. With pleasent and smart voice,
he joined with Freemasons
Now he is in the "Jaani Kirik in , the Yellow one, in Freedom Square in Tallinn ..
This is where they got Him :p
as for cannabis and for it looks green in night ... and have been most amount promoted magic mushrooms and marijuana in there. To connect church'es with reality & people.
The man who's church it is called to be, is Jaan Tammsalu - he is one of the most high respected Priests who knows old native story's as well. With pleasent and smart voice,
he joined with Freemasons
Now he is in the "Jaani Kirik in , the Yellow one, in Freedom Square in Tallinn ..
This is where they got Him :p
29 April 2018 02:25
Margus Meigo commented on Čijen Vopice's photo.
Old kinds view!
29 April 2018 02:22
Margus Meigo commented on Čijen Vopice's photo.
i lived near there for some time : )
29 April 2018 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Direct Road only allows us to get in to the limits we know, we planned,
See only things we will see is what we already imagined partly
See only things we will see is what we already imagined partly
29 April 2018 02:21
Margus Meigo commented on Čijen Vopice's post.
Good You did!
29 April 2018 02:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(In soviet time, in begining You had to have glorifing of an state ideology, or no good book on important topic was allowed to publish basicaly, so i was thinking, from šamanic perspective, the beginning perhaps was friendly reminder of this, but works all well togheder .... as truth is also, that Soviets-Communists was the ones who try to eliminate Shamanism, and animism, nature knowledge ... only ones that are still left for turists are some carneval kind of shamans who just play drum and wear a lot of heavy strange things to make it look deep ...while they would just need a bit of #Teravpaljak & a #kärbseseen't ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY&list=PLsXelNZnKcxnWDnxpja771qWx1ctXFPHl )
Well, Shaman topics was not allowed anyway... ()
Well, Shaman topics was not allowed anyway... ()
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY&list=PLsXelNZnKcxnWDnxpja771qWx1ctXFPHl
29 April 2018 01:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
was thinking i uploaded this to my wall, well, okey, thisis good as well.. as planned to send this To You also Čijen Lin
29 April 2018 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
Lucky Moses for have been gifted with Wonderful (wise) Wife
Amen
Amen
29 April 2018 01:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
What was the company beginning and future plans?
28 April 2018 20:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hahayayaya, i saw the airrings 2 :p
28 April 2018 20:17
Margus Meigo commented on Čijen Vopice's photo.
Peace :p
28 April 2018 18:56
Margus Meigo commented on Čijen Vopice's photo.
What compani is that ? : )
28 April 2018 18:56
Margus Meigo commented on Čijen Vopice's photo.
:p
28 April 2018 18:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Čijen Vopice yeah, this is no code word (to exuse these kind of..)
28 April 2018 18:40
Margus Meigo commented on Čijen Vopice's photo.
Probably one of these ones on phone, we talked about :p
28 April 2018 18:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oigus jah, ma eip pidanud ju iroonitsema, ei tea veel kelle poolt peab laulma kui laulaks hooksalt kui häält oleks, ...aaaga kas nad rosinaid ka leivasisse panevad?
27 April 2018 09:46
Margus Meigo commented on Spencer Kovach's post.
Group: ANCAPISTAN®
@kahoosier27 April 2018 09:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.facebook.com/paul.puustusmaa/posts/1515813915194291
27 April 2018 09:38
Margus Meigo commented on Joyce Rheal's post.
Same here
27 April 2018 09:32
Margus Meigo commented on Paul Puustusmaa's photo.
Mitte kaua,
kui siis Su postitus paneb neid surts köhklema..
kui siis Su postitus paneb neid surts köhklema..
27 April 2018 09:31
Margus Meigo commented on Noored Sotsiaaldemokraadid's post.
Motlesin, et suurteasjade tähtaeg esimeseks maiks
27 April 2018 09:27
Margus Meigo commented on Skiso Freenik's post.
IT WILL BE NICE PIPE
27 April 2018 08:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
//märge
26 April 2018 14:52
Margus Meigo replied to Martin Sööt's comment.
loota võib, LSD is hellofadrug, except the hell and drug part
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_4bp8bBNVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_4bp8bBNVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_4bp8bBNVw
26 April 2018 12:46
Margus Meigo commented on Kent Allen Halliburton's photo.
Sick ritual , in so many level sick that hard really..
but these things was done perhaps to get man soul, but these who keep beliving in these moments, these souls perhaps was saved, but still, retarded really, why would people just stand there and make them pleasyre to keep this ritual up,
same go's for death penalty wih injection and electrisity, same crew same ideology,
they are there to access the spirit or somethin, these aliens, but for sure they not doing some human thing
but these things was done perhaps to get man soul, but these who keep beliving in these moments, these souls perhaps was saved, but still, retarded really, why would people just stand there and make them pleasyre to keep this ritual up,
same go's for death penalty wih injection and electrisity, same crew same ideology,
they are there to access the spirit or somethin, these aliens, but for sure they not doing some human thing
26 April 2018 11:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui arusaada mida mitmekülgselt me osas rakendatakse
26 April 2018 01:23
Margus Meigo commented on Vishen Lakhiani's post.
Suudpuhtaks saates tåna tóóteema, vanemaid blokeeritakse, see kultuuri hávituseks kasulik nad unustasid mainida TVs
26 April 2018 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on Riina Rand's post.
Group: Kristlased
Õigeusklikud müüvad asju lausa kirikus sees, Londoni kirikutes ka poed kirikussesisse pandud25 April 2018 20:29
Margus Meigo replied to Jaanus Riimets's comment.
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Hmm..
nu jah kuid lisaks veel need arusaamad peast jooksid läbi:
pigem oli kerge lahutus antud südame tarkuse pärast, sest neil jumala poolt arenenum ühiskond, kes kui lahutab siis saab aru miks, ja kui on patune pool siis saadi aru, et ei ole vaja hoida koos ja solkida pühat loomust.
Ega see uuesti kergesti enam pühasse liitu astuda saanud kes lahutanud paha pärast...
Kange süda on see üks omadustest, mille pärast Jumal nad endale välja valis (või miks ta nad sellisena tegi), et neid murda ei saaks vaenlaste poolt kogu kosmose tulnukaväega,
ja õnneks neist osa siiamaani alles jäänud, nagu Rabbi Manis F. kogukond, ja veel mitmed tõsiusklikud kes rituaalide üleliigsuse asemel praktilisele elule, armastusele ja jumala südamest arusaamisele keskenduvad
Mu enda tundes..
Ka Eestlased oleks / olid / on head kanditaadid valituks rahvaks, aga eks ka meil oma misioon, saame näiteks juudid päästa ja tänapäeva rooma impeeriumi aidata kukutada või normaalsusesse kasvada noid tulnukaid..., kui tarvis,
N. Liidu osas aitasime kaasa... kuid see oli nagu ussipesa laialiajamine.. ja siis oleks pidanud neid taga ajama igalpool.. aga selleasemel neil end koguda ja kasvada lasti juubeldades illusioonis, et nad kadunud oma plaanidega..
Eks N.Liit ka tänu ümberpööratud juutidele nii suure edu ja võimu sai. Eks sellepärast ka suuri karistusi oma rahvale nad kaasa tõid, kuid noh.. ega need kes NKVD' juudid olid, nad nagunii soovisid kogu juutluse hävitamist süvitsi (koos tänapäeva liberaalsete juuudikoolidega ameerikas, nende plaanid..) mis nad muidu selle asutuse teinud ?
Ja eks25 April 2018 19:53
Margus Meigo replied to Olga Busheva's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Kaidu Pärgma juba tõlkis selle terava asjakohase huumori:
1576 hooaja "selgeltnägijate tuleproovi" finaal
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Muidgi peame arusaama, tänapäeva teleri selgeltnägijatest ja nõidadest suur hulk on salasüsteemide töölised ja nad raha ja mõjutuste, valeliitude au saamiseks, on valmis vägapalju valet kurja tegema nii teadlikult kui teadmatult...
Küll see aeg veel tuleb, kui omad struktuurid saame paika korralikult mis neid mustasi siirastest eraldab, sest ka minu meeles, kõik erivõimed & tarkused on Looja aitamiseks,
ja kõik kes selles osas meelega või jonnakult eksib, neid kui vaja tuleb kambaga maha võtta, et nad üleliia paha ei teeks,
mahavõtmine muidugi ei saa olla barbaarne kui selleks pole ainuvajadust,
seda saab samamoodi, teiste tarkadega teha, kes saavad aru millega nad tegelevad, muidu hüppab selle nõia suust veel must vaim järgmise nõrgeima heategeja sisse ja see omakorda uue võitlusstruktuuri seestpoolt hävita peagi ...vaikselt kasvades ja õppides kõik siseplaanid...
sest ega nad pole isiksused eraldi.. nad suuremate planeeringute osad, kellele infot jagatakse ," energiaid" .. elusi.. ..enamasti piisab infost ja tervast keelest, et mõne ajaga lukustada edusammud või koguni hävitada üksteise vastu ja üksteisest eemale inimesi suunates, kes kokku peaks hoidma,
hea näide on suur hul erinevaid usu sekte ja kogusi, mille kõige kõrgemad veel eriti julgtunult üleolevalt Jehoovade ja Mormoonide vastu sõnavõtavad.. ilma, et nende ühtegi väärtust näeksid ja oma enda puudujääke teiste töödes mille osas nad julgeks abi küsida sellelt, keda maha teevad omakeskis.
Ilmselge, et Jehoova tunnistajate kirjanduse ja trüki võim on absoluutne eriti oma väiksuse juures,
samal ajal kui Mormoonide misiooni töö on absoluutselt kiiduväärt, lisaks nad ka suutnud ilma kohustusliku rahakogumista üheks maailma rikkaimaks organisatsiooniks tõusta (Mormoonid)
Siinkohal, paari venekeele sõna tähenduse õpetus Eestlastele, mis teemasse puutub:
https://youtu.be/TNeHR8zFCxA?t=1777 (viimased viis minutit)https://youtu.be/TNeHR8zFCxA?t=1777
25 April 2018 14:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
Ja veel oluline arusaada: Seksuaalnerahuldus ei ole mitte KUNAGI olnud mehe õigus, see on ALATI olnud AINULT Naise õigus
Mida mehel, kui ta õnnistatud on sellega, et Naine tema selleks usaldab, peab õppima täitma
Enamasti muidugi piisab siirast telepaatilisest ja südame sidemest kus andutakse ja arusaadakse sellest pühast liidust, see juba ise on Naise jaoks suurimad rahuldusi mis saab olla, kui tema mees mõistab, kes ta on25 April 2018 14:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi, see alles Beta v. 0.1 siis selle lõpp versioon võib päris hea tulla
25 April 2018 13:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
25 April 2018 13:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
Naisel omakorda, on moraalne kohustus, näitamaks et ta on väärtuslik naine, kogu majapidamiste toitude ja riiete eest hoolt kanda (muidugi, enne peaks mees oma osa täitma...riide materiali ja kõik muu).
Loomulikult saab kaks vaest ka armastuse põhjal kokku saada ja Jumalasilmis hästi olla, kui majanduslike võimalusi veel pole kuid visioonis ja suunas, ka vaesed peaksid arusaama, tegelikust reaalsusest mida nad toetama peaks ja mille suunas pürgima.
Selleks, et oma lastele õige suund kätte näidata, mis ühiskonda tugevana hoiab.
Kui naine majanduslikult on võimeline naturaalselt kõik materiaalse osa eest hoolt kandma, siis mehel jääb keskenduda kõigele muule: kodutöödele ja naise rahuldamisele, nii emotsionaalselt kui kehaliselt.
Iga väiksemagi naise unistuse ja mure korral PEAB mees aru saama, et see on ka Mehe elus, kõige olulisem asi, kui tema naisel on mure. sedasi, et armastus saaks edasi kanduda, elus olla,
.:.
parema elu nimel!25 April 2018 13:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
Keegi võiks veel, Eesti seadused siin ka üles otsida, vanarahva seadused, küll me siin kokku mõtleme, kuidas olema hakkab25 April 2018 13:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
Mehele kirjutatud ja kirjutamata elementaarne seadus mida ta PEAB Mees olles täitma, mille mitte täitmisel MEHE KULUL LAHUTUS, ilma pikema jututa,
Olulisemad põhi seadused: Naisele PEAB pakkuma seksuaalset rahuldust millal iganes ta soovib ja nii, et ta seda ise küsima ei peaks, Naisele peab võimaldama riided ja toidu.
See on absoluutne miinimum millest mingi osa ei tohi olla puudu.
Lisaks peab mees õppima tundma naise tundeid ja emotsionaalselt rahuldama ning õppima naist tundma nii, et naine ei peaks asju kordama. See elementaarne abielu osa ja seadus mille vastu eksides kohe kogukond mehe välja naeris ja süüdi mõistis.
"The husband too, is indirectly implied to have some responsibilities to his wife. The Torah obligates a man to not deprive his wife of food, clothing, or of sexual activity;[33] if the husband does not provide the first wife with these things, she is to be divorced, without cost to her.[34] The Talmud interprets this as a requirement for a man to provide food and clothing to, and have sex with, each of his wives, even if he only has one "
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/quot-kosher-quot-sex
Absolutselt keelatud on seksiga manipuleerimine ja väljapressimine, purjus peaga ka ei tohi seksida (esoteerikud teavad, et siis tegelikult muud vaimud Su naisega seeaeg seksivad...). Seksida tohib Ainult nii, et see on absoluutselt meeldiv ja kui veel ei ole siis tuleb selle osa õppimisega KOHUSTUSENA tegeleda.
" Sex should only be experienced in a time of joy. Sex for selfish personal satisfaction, without regard for the partner's pleasure, is wrong and evil. A man may never force his wife to have sex. A couple may not have sexual relations while drunk or quarreling. Sex may never be used as a weapon against a spouse, either by depriving the spouse of sex or by compelling it. It is a serious offense to use sex (or lack thereof) to punish or manipulate a spouse. "
Täielikud seaduse lihtsustatud selgitused kellega võib ja kellega ei või, meil võiks lisada, et mitte valge taustaga inimesega meie maal ei või, alustuseks, kultuuri pärandi säilitamiseks,
kindlasti ei võiks ka kodumaa vastaste veendumustega inimesega, sest miks peaks meie riik ja kodu siin oma endale vaenlasi juurde kasvatama :
List:
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/468337/jewish/Prohibited-Marriages.htmhttp://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/quot-kosher-quot-sex
25 April 2018 13:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
Naisele anti normaalsete meeste poolt, eraldi telgike või ruum kuhu mehel ei olnud õigus siseneda, rikkamad mehed selle tarbes naisele maja eraldi ostsid,
Ka eesti vanas kultuuris, nii mehel kui naisel olid ruumid kuhu teineteised ei tohtinud siseneda, lisaks ei olnud lastel asja vanemate magamistuppa ega võõral asja nii mõnegisse ruumi.
Nüüd elatakse nagu puuriloomad korter karpides.. millest me räägime.. " areng.."
"A wife was also seen as being of high value, and was therefore, usually, carefully looked after.[16][19] Early nomadic communities practised a form of marriage known as beena, in which a wife would own a tent of her own, within which she retains complete independence from her husband;[20] this principle appears to survive in parts of early Israelite society, as some early passages of the Bible appear to portray certain wives as each owning a tent as a personal possession[20] (specifically, Jael,[21] Sarah,[22] and Jacob's wives[23]). In later times, the Bible describes wives as being given the innermost room(s) of the husband's house, as her own private area to which men were not permitted;[24][25] in the case of wealthy husbands, the Bible describes their wives as having each been given an entire house for this purpose "25 April 2018 13:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
Naine otsustab millise osa sissetulekutest on kohustatud mees talle jätma, kas jagab oma sissetulekut või jätab endale, naine saab ka mehe sellest KOHUSTUSEST vabastada seda abielu lepingus märkides:
Marriage obligations and rights in Judaism are ultimately based on those apparent in the Bible, which have been clarified, defined, and expanded on by many prominent rabbinic authorities throughout history.
Traditionally, the obligations of the husband include providing for his wife. He is obligated to provide for her sustenance for her benefit, in exchange he is also entitled to her income. However, this is a right to the wife and she can release her husband of the obligation of sustaining her and she can then keep her income exclusively for herself. The document that provides for this is the ketuba.
The Bible itself gives the wife protections, as per Exodus 21:10, although the rabbis may have added others later. The rights of the husband and wife are described in tractate Ketubot in the Talmud, which explains how the rabbis balanced the two sets of rights of the wife and the husband.
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Preestrid / Rabid / Külatargad / Usutargad (advokaadid...)
Saavad lisatingimusi lisaks elementaarsetele nõudmistele veel lepingusse sisse panna.
Kuid mis peab jääma on algsed nõuded, et abielu saaks toimida abieluna EHK Hingede ühte liitmisena,
muidu pole jumalal sellest suurt tolku25 April 2018 13:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
Naise pisarad on Jumalapoolt loetud ja meestel on kästud naist austada rohkem kui ennast ning kõiki muresi esmaselt oma naisega arutama:
" Marital harmony, known as "shlom bayit," is valued in Jewish tradition. The Talmud states that a man should love his wife as much as he loves himself, and honour her more than he honours himself;[8] indeed, one who honours his wife was said, by the classical rabbis, to be rewarded with wealth.[9] Similarly, a husband was expected to discuss with his wife any worldly matters that might arise in his life. The Talmud forbids a husband from being overbearing to his household,[10] and domestic abuse by him was also condemned. It was said of a wife that God counts her tears.
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Igasugune naisele haiget tegemine on seadusega keelatud kui abielurikkumine25 April 2018 13:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Kui me Kristlased oleme, siis Vähemalt PARIMA kõigest juudi asjadest, peaksime elementaarselt omastama, arusaamade ja tõdede osas (ja kuna Eestlased oleme, siis parima ka Eesti abielu rituaalist, arusaamast, peaks säilitama kasvõi arusaamas) :
"marriage is understood to mean that the husband and wife are merging into a single soul, which is why a man is considered "incomplete" if he is not married"
Pikemalt:
In traditional Judaism, marriage is viewed as a contractual bond commanded by God in which a man and a woman come together to create a relationship in which God is directly involved. (Deut. 24:1) Though procreation is not the sole purpose, a Jewish marriage is traditionally expected to fulfil the commandment to have children. (Gen. 1:28) In this view, marriage is understood to mean that the husband and wife are merging into a single soul, which is why a man is considered "incomplete" if he is not married, as his soul is only one part of a larger whole that remains to be unified
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_marriage
Sama soo ihardajatele:
" Some Jewish denominations such as Reconstructionist, Reform and Conservative Judaism recognize same-sex marriage and deemphasize procreation, focusing on marriage as a bond between a couple.
OLULINE:
This view is considered as a diversion from the Jewish Law by the more Orthodox denominations, rather than as a legitimate, alternative interpretation. "
Leping , mis on kostumeeeritud vastavalt perekonna nõudmistele, loetakse ette pulas, et arusaaksid kõik kes ja miks abielluvad:
"In Jewish law, an engagement (shidukhin) is a contract between a man and a woman where they mutually promise to marry each other at some future time and the terms on which it shall take place. The promise may be made by the intending parties or by their respective parents or other relatives on their behalf. The promise is formalized in a document known as the Shtar Tena'im, the "Document of Conditions", which is read prior to the badekin. "
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"In Jewish law, marriage consists of two separate acts, called erusin (or kiddushin, meaning sanctification), which is the betrothal ceremony, and nissu'in or chupah, the actual Jewish wedding ceremony. Erusin changes the couple's interpersonal status, while nissu'in brings about the legal consequences of the change of status. In Talmudic times, these two ceremonies usually took place up to a year apart; the bride lived with her parents until the actual marriage ceremony (nissuin), which would take place in a room or tent that the groom had set up for her. Since the Middle Ages the two ceremonies have taken place as a combined ceremony performed in public.
According to the Talmud,[7] erusin involves the groom handing an object to the bride - either an object of value such as a ring, or a document stating that she is being betrothed to him. In order to be valid, this must be done in the presence of two unrelated male witnesses. After erusin, the laws of adultery apply, and the marriage cannot be dissolved without a religious divorce. After nisuin, the couple may live togetherhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_marriage
25 April 2018 13:00
Margus Meigo replied to Telia Eesti's comment.
Starmanni ajal asjad olid korras mitte ainult minul vaid ka teistel,
Teliasse üleminnes on need asjad teleka leviga mida kirjeldatud tavapäraseks muutunud.
Starmannist veel rääkides, nad kenasti hoidsid mu konto ettemaksu üle 7 me aasta, siis eluolude sunnil ma pidin korraks teenuse peatama mida telefoniteel ka nõustuti ilma lepingukatkestuseta kuid kui Telia ostis Starmanni siis nad ilma mulle ütlematta aktiviseerisid mu magamisolekusse pandud konto tekitades mul kohtutäituri võlad uuesti.
Kuid mis mind kõigeenam häirib on see, et saatsin suure töö ja vaevaga, 50 nele valitud asutusele asjakohase Usulise päringu usulistele organisatsioonidele, ning ilma hoiatuseta sulgeti mu emaili konto, süüdistades spämmis (kuigi 50 kirja korraga saata on tavapärane limiit kirja enda aadressi kastis, ainuüksi ühe kirja tarvis).
Kirjas ei olnud isegi ühtegi URL linki.
Ega ei proovitud midagi müüa.
Olen käinud kohal kontoris, emailnud ja peale pikka aega mitte vastamist, saadetakse kopeeritud standartne kiri späm süüdistustest näitamaks, et mu kirjasisu isegi ei ole loetud.
Proovin teile otse hiljem kirjutada paari päevajooksul.
Tänud kiire reageerimise eest, see on päris üllatav, et isegi vastate sedasi, kiirelt.
Võin teile mõne muretseva kliendi nimed edasi anda kui nad sellega nõus on, uurin neilt.
Teliasse üleminnes on need asjad teleka leviga mida kirjeldatud tavapäraseks muutunud.
Starmannist veel rääkides, nad kenasti hoidsid mu konto ettemaksu üle 7 me aasta, siis eluolude sunnil ma pidin korraks teenuse peatama mida telefoniteel ka nõustuti ilma lepingukatkestuseta kuid kui Telia ostis Starmanni siis nad ilma mulle ütlematta aktiviseerisid mu magamisolekusse pandud konto tekitades mul kohtutäituri võlad uuesti.
Kuid mis mind kõigeenam häirib on see, et saatsin suure töö ja vaevaga, 50 nele valitud asutusele asjakohase Usulise päringu usulistele organisatsioonidele, ning ilma hoiatuseta sulgeti mu emaili konto, süüdistades spämmis (kuigi 50 kirja korraga saata on tavapärane limiit kirja enda aadressi kastis, ainuüksi ühe kirja tarvis).
Kirjas ei olnud isegi ühtegi URL linki.
Ega ei proovitud midagi müüa.
Olen käinud kohal kontoris, emailnud ja peale pikka aega mitte vastamist, saadetakse kopeeritud standartne kiri späm süüdistustest näitamaks, et mu kirjasisu isegi ei ole loetud.
Proovin teile otse hiljem kirjutada paari päevajooksul.
Tänud kiire reageerimise eest, see on päris üllatav, et isegi vastate sedasi, kiirelt.
Võin teile mõne muretseva kliendi nimed edasi anda kui nad sellega nõus on, uurin neilt.
25 April 2018 12:53
Margus Meigo replied to Jaanus Riimets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Ja kuigi seda teemat saaks nii mitut pidi ümber lükata, et raskse kohe kuskilt otsast alustada kuna iga ots nii magus tundub (ja pead kinni hoidma paneb samas), siis võtaks kõike ebatõenäolisema,
ja küsiks otse vastu, miks siis armastus ei saa olla poliitika osa?
Kas saab olla ÜLDSE õiget heatahtliku poliitikat ilma armastuseta?
Kas arvad, et riigi olukord oleks kehvem, kui riik kehtestaks seaduse, et inimene peab austus ja armastusväärselt käituma oma koolikaaslaste, õpetajate, naise ja perekonna ning teleka vaatajate osas, seega mitte panema asju telekasse mis alaväärsitavad ja pervetiseerivad arusaame,
koheselt karistada ja tugevamalt õpetada koolis neid kes armastuse reeglite vastu on eksinud liialt palju kordi ja likvideerida poliitikast need inimesed, kes tegelevad armastuse vastasuse ehk valetamise või veiderdamisega.
Inimestele väga meeldib makse maksta kui need õigesse usaldusväärsesse kohta läheb, kohe kui kirik oma austuse on tagasisaanud, ehk siis KOGU maa on saanud ÜHE jumala teenimiseks ilma väärtusetude rituaalidena mis teenisid ennast vanast teatud asjade meeles hoidmiseks ja teiste petmiseks ("oo meil on selline skeem.. mis sa sellest tead... meil päris asi.. kahe sõrmega..mis sa kolmesõrmega lööd risti endiselt v?" jne ühed kannavad mütse teised võtavad mütsi peast, ühed räägivad alkoholi vastu teised rituaalis joovad veini veel pühapäeval ka pettes ennast, et sellel alkoholi maitsmisel Jumalateenimisega miskit pistmist on, nu alleluuja! )25 April 2018 12:27
Margus Meigo replied to Jaanus Riimets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Kristlus ei ole ja pole kunagi mõeldud olema "tõeliselt piiridest vaba usk", see oleks kristluse vastane, sest mõte ongi, sättida piirid ja JUMALARIIK MAAPEALE TUUA.
Ei tea kuidas seda tuua kavatsetakse hoides riiki lahus Usust ja siis imestades, et riik majandab sedasi ,et inimene usuvaeseks areneb.
See ju selline liberaalne enesepetmine hakata arvama, et riik saaks ÜLDSE kuidagi toimida mõistusepäraselt olles jumalast lahus.
Mis järgmiseks, likvideerime Hümnist ka looja või rahvuslauludest?25 April 2018 12:22
Margus Meigo replied to Vinni Puhh's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Mis enne valimistest..., see Isamaliidus ammu jutuks olnud.
See artikkel ainuüksi, on aastast 2016.
Viljandi valijatega kohtumisel oli neil vähemalt kaks preestrit kes aktiivselt vestlusest osa võtsid.
Kuid kuna toetajaid ei ole kes vajalikusest arusaaks, siis on raske, samamoodi Helir-Valdor Seeder soovis teha seadusemuudatust, et Eestimaad ei tohi müüa välismaalastele, mitte ükski inimene riigikogust ei julgenud toona EU seaduste vastu temaga koos minna.
Ja nad isegi poleks läinud otseselt vastu, vaid oleks karmistanud ekstreem liberaalset majanduspoliitikat mis on meil liberaalsem veel kui neil kes seda liberaalsust meile peale suruvad.
Isegi neegrimaad kus elanud olen, need nii targad võrreldes meie põlismaalastega, et nad ei müü välismaapäritoluga inimestele oma maad ükskõik kui suure raha eest, ükskõik mida nad ehitavad sellele, vaid rendivad ainult ja rent võib mis iganes hinda tõusta järgmises perioodis,25 April 2018 12:16
Margus Meigo replied to Tarmo Timm's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Keegi on sellise jura wikipeediasse toppinud nüüd või ?25 April 2018 12:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
Olga Busheva See ongi huvitav, et Renesansi aeg ühtlasi oli aeg kus kõige suuremad väärtused veel viimast korda ausees olid (nagu Daamid ja Naiste väärtustamine jms) ja samas tuli peale seda lõplik väärtuste järepidev hävitamise ja jubeduste aeg...
vast oligi asi selles, et liialt naiivselt hakati puhkama arvates, et peale keskaja nüüd ometi on kõik pidevas valgustuse tõusuhoos... aga näe.. eks me isegi siin, peale 90 ndaid liialt hooksalt eraeludega tegelema hakkasime ja nüüdseks ongi suur osa maad meilt välismaalased ostnud ja ülejäänu ripub juure otsas , kuigi juur on tugev.. siis selle raiujatele tähelepanu ei panda,.. kuna ollakse demokraatia lummuses, hüpnoosis...
kuid ehk ärkame, märkame, enne kui ..25 April 2018 12:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
oih, natuke isiklikuks läksin... mul see vana aeg igasgu emotsioone üles toob, eriti mis jooma-rooma impeeriumiga seotud, või selle pehmema järglase nliiduga, nagu ise oleks tol ajal olnd, pole isegi palju lugenud, et pead sassi ajada kuid kohe tekib selline seletamatu põlastusega üleolevus kuigi tean, et peaksin mõtlema pigem ka nende poolt, et kuidas ikka saada meid kõiki siiamaale, et loojasoovidest osasaada, et loodusega koostöös olla, et naisele ühiskonna korda sobilikuks rakendada, et lastele varakumalt suurimad vajalikud tarkused antaks...
kuid kohe kui näen midagi mis nendest, Luteri aegi toob neid tundeid ülesse.. siis raske tagasi hoida, juba mitu suurt sõnumit kustutanud sellega seoses mida sõrmed ise kirjutama kipuvad25 April 2018 11:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
Muidugi tolle aja osas kasulik mäletada, et need "usuinimeste" ja Rooma impeeriumi järglaste palgatud Viikingite ja Normannide pätisalgad, kes "ristirüütlitena" siin ise enda tuleviku lipsupätisalkade tarvis pinnast tegid põletades ka metsa-tarke ja väenaisi lisaks mustadele-nõidadele kes neile ei allunud tulevase viisnurga impeeriumi tarvis... kes siis kurjast neid põhimõtetega siis salliks kes manipulatsioone läbi näevad ja loodusetarkustaimi teavad tagatipuks millega hüpnoosis inimesi ülesäratada otsearusaamaga loojateenimisereaalsusesse25 April 2018 10:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
oisaraks
karm nali, kuid aus huumor.25 April 2018 10:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kolm asja:
grenskeeper nsv, kellena pole töödanud ja see välismakeelne.. need ise mu profiilie tekkinud.. msiasjad need on.
grenskeeper nsv, kellena pole töödanud ja see välismakeelne.. need ise mu profiilie tekkinud.. msiasjad need on.
25 April 2018 03:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mees aga nii isekas/naiivne, et arvab, et kui teine allub siis to usub või allunud..
25 April 2018 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
related
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214242387630354/
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214242387630354/
25 April 2018 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on Siim Tulev's post.
Kui me vaid teaks... kui ees nad meist selles on..
25 April 2018 03:11
Margus Meigo commented on Siim Tulev's post.
Seega võib neile andestada, aga mis meie vabandus on..
25 April 2018 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on I am Programmer,I have no life.'s photo.
Aliens needed to make something new when ended in usa to pretend they so different from soviet alien-alllies,
they still keeped the eagle, pentagrams & colors of flad the same and fasion to wear tie and save, just so they can recotnize eachother by something...
they still keeped the eagle, pentagrams & colors of flad the same and fasion to wear tie and save, just so they can recotnize eachother by something...
25 April 2018 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to Occhialoni Paesano's comment.
actually there is the ones who belive that it was useful and real to be in moon and the ones who understand we do not need, to fly to moon ship
25 April 2018 02:53
Margus Meigo commented on Siim Tulev's post.
Ega see neid väga palju vähem kriipimaks eip tee, node olemust arvestades
25 April 2018 02:50
Margus Meigo commented on Siim Tulev's photo.
Mida nad head saatsid, töölepingu ?:)
25 April 2018 02:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
laulab kõigile, see tema loomuse osa
25 April 2018 02:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Videoga kaasasoleval tekstil ja audiol küll suurt pistmist pole...muuud kui, et kogu selle tormikeskel endiselt hoiab selgust, põhjust, lootus see kes läbi selle laulu mul laulab,
25 April 2018 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
first it seemed, as we are kidding, right
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i see what you mean..
(meaning of this say'ng, becomes more clear :p )
// no vorry's, itis nothing compared what Estonia'ns got :p
We co-operate with God
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i see what you mean..
(meaning of this say'ng, becomes more clear :p )
// no vorry's, itis nothing compared what Estonia'ns got :p
We co-operate with God
25 April 2018 02:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
old ones from 70's https://patents.google.com/patent/US3951134A/en
...what Soviet aliens got before that ..even with simple seemingly radios..
...what Soviet aliens got before that ..even with simple seemingly radios..
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3951134A/en
25 April 2018 02:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
www.bbc.com/news/technology-32623063
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-32623063
25 April 2018 02:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1="20070185697".PGNR.&OS=DN/20070185697&RS=DN/20070185697
http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=
25 April 2018 02:18
Margus Meigo replied to Kristel Pohlak's comment.
kui juba mainimiseks läks, siis ülevaade ka firma osas:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/activity/10214823842126353
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/activity/10214823842126353
25 April 2018 01:50
Margus Meigo replied to Kristel Pohlak's comment.
Lõpuks ometi üks postitus mida keegi ka heaks peab, 10a jooksul :p
aitäh!
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(see kiri pikalt ees oli. ja ega neid tõestusi muidu ei saaks, hädapäraste vahenditega mis inimestelt kingitud...mis kestavad seni kuni kestavad.., nii internet kui ka see video sai näieks võimalikuks tänu Türi vallale ja Margus Luik'ele
aitäh!
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(see kiri pikalt ees oli. ja ega neid tõestusi muidu ei saaks, hädapäraste vahenditega mis inimestelt kingitud...mis kestavad seni kuni kestavad.., nii internet kui ka see video sai näieks võimalikuks tänu Türi vallale ja Margus Luik'ele
25 April 2018 01:36
Margus Meigo replied to Jaanus Riimets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Piibel ei ole demokraatlik! (demokraatia on deemonlik hullumeelsus )
Sunduslik on kui pekstakse senikaua kui arusaadakse või kui pea maha võetakse, või kui nälja näljutatakse või avalikult häbiposti pannakse millest ei ole võimalik muutudes pääseda
See pole sunduslik, vaid see AUSTUS avaldus Jumalale, inimsoole ja Naisele kui see tehakse.
Mis siin SUNDUSLIKKU ?
Piibel EI Ole Demokraatlik, mis me seda demokraatia jura siia torgime, me peaks Kristluse ja Jumala sõna eest seisma mitte romma.greeka ideloogiaga üle pläkerdama reaalsust, meie pühal maal, rääkides nii pühadest teemadest ja nii looduslikudest, naturaalsetest teemadest millel pole demokraatiaga miskit pistmist.
Ma pean oma 7 klassi haridusega siin nii elementaarseid ajsu tarkadele inimestele selgitama, ela nagu arvutimängus, tõesti.
Inimesed on täitsa arutuks läinud siin maal või ??
Kristlaste krupis ka peab sellist jutu kuulama,
teine kristlaste grupp üldse bännis mind ära ja jättis lapsepilastajast seinfieldi sisse ku itolel kristlike lauseid urima hakkasin, demokraatia hea näide: https://joel-friedrich-steinfeldt.blogspot.com
Kui kaua võib seda demokraatia pläma ajada, ehk kasvame ülesse?
(ära seda isiklikult rünnakuna võta, see käis deemonkraaatia võimuVaimu suunas/pihta lihtsalt kuna seda endas kannad, siis õrnalt võid ka puuduttatuna tunda, siis lase lahti sellest hullusest ja siis ei tee ka haiget ega ärrita, juhuks kui mu sõna vähem kui soe heasmõttes tundus)
Mis mõttes KEEGI ei nõua, ära ikka sedasi ka üldistama hakka, päris suur osa maailmast seda surma väärt patuks peab ja Eestiski, kui see võlts demokraatia kaob mis POLITSEI ähvardusega inimesi eemal hoiab, mitte Jumalasõna tarkusega...
siis päris suur hulk inimesi lööksid üksteist maha abielupetmiste peale ja veel väiksemategi petmiste peale, ise lööksid, rääkimata nõudmistest. tuleb ikka reaalsuses olla.https://joel-friedrich-steinfeldt.blogspot.com/
25 April 2018 01:11
Margus Meigo commented on Vinni Puhh's post.
Kogu See sport on Vene korraldatud Rooma impeeriumi pedekarja manipulatsioon nagunii,
Teada ju kes spordi asjade alguses algusest ajast on olnud.
Ei saa olla arutum punt inimesi, kes vaatab pealt läbi teleka ka veel, teistele kes ringiratast jooksevad ilma mõtte ja poindita , raha nimel.. ja siis sellele veel emotsionaalselt kaasa elada.
See inimliik on ikka jah... areng rooma ühiskonnal on nagu on... ja kuna Vene on Kolmas Rooma impeerium, globaalne koos oma internatsionaalide ja muude org mille hariduse suuna nad paika pannud ilma neid otseselt relvaga kontrollimata...
siis tuleb arvestada, et see spordi jama, on meelega tehtud, et venemaale kaastunnet ja vene siseselt patriootlikust tõsta ja kokku inimesi viia meelsustes
osad maailma spordi komuunis ainult liialt siirad ja liialt agaralt venemaa vastu asju kohe patriootlikult toonud, rohkem kui arvati.. kuid siis kohe see kasutatakse selleks milleks tarvis, .. teada ju on.. et nad kõik ülestõusu ootavad ja mis saaks parem olla promomaks pentagramme ja eelootavat aega mida nad plaanivad...
osad elavad spordile rohkem kaasa kui loodus ja teadus uudistele, rohkem kui sotsiaalsetele muudatustele ja rohkem kui usu visioonidele... kui kurb see on
Teada ju kes spordi asjade alguses algusest ajast on olnud.
Ei saa olla arutum punt inimesi, kes vaatab pealt läbi teleka ka veel, teistele kes ringiratast jooksevad ilma mõtte ja poindita , raha nimel.. ja siis sellele veel emotsionaalselt kaasa elada.
See inimliik on ikka jah... areng rooma ühiskonnal on nagu on... ja kuna Vene on Kolmas Rooma impeerium, globaalne koos oma internatsionaalide ja muude org mille hariduse suuna nad paika pannud ilma neid otseselt relvaga kontrollimata...
siis tuleb arvestada, et see spordi jama, on meelega tehtud, et venemaale kaastunnet ja vene siseselt patriootlikust tõsta ja kokku inimesi viia meelsustes
osad maailma spordi komuunis ainult liialt siirad ja liialt agaralt venemaa vastu asju kohe patriootlikult toonud, rohkem kui arvati.. kuid siis kohe see kasutatakse selleks milleks tarvis, .. teada ju on.. et nad kõik ülestõusu ootavad ja mis saaks parem olla promomaks pentagramme ja eelootavat aega mida nad plaanivad...
osad elavad spordile rohkem kaasa kui loodus ja teadus uudistele, rohkem kui sotsiaalsetele muudatustele ja rohkem kui usu visioonidele... kui kurb see on
25 April 2018 01:00
Margus Meigo replied to Vinni Puhh's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Suures plaanis ju nõustuda ka saab Su eelmise kommentaariga,
kud sellegi poolest, hakka selgemeelseks, too reaalne list vigadest (kes nendeta on..)
ja siis too kõrvale, list sellest keda pead paremaks IRL ist ja mida nad on teinud , mida teised pole.
Sa täiskasvanud inimene ju, saad hakkama25 April 2018 00:54
Margus Meigo replied to Vinni Puhh's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Vinni Puhh See pole aruterve vastus, RÄÄGI peast MÕNED, ma ei küsinud kõike, 5'st piisab,
Saan aru, et kuupäevi ja täpseid asukohti ei mäleta (kuigi meie oma vaenlaste möödapanemised just hästi ülesmärgime...saksa täpsusega)
Siis nimeta mulle pealkirjad lihtsalt, see on ikka lihtne ülesannekui julgesid kellegi vastu positsiooni võtta, veel nii auväärsete kui Isamaaliidu osas,
Tead %'liselt, kelle pundis veel rohkem auväärseid on olnud?
Igatahes, ole kes oled kui seda ei soovi paljastada, (ei tea kelle eest küll peidad)
Kuid too pealkirjad, et mis on need asjad mille osas Sul suurimad pettumused on olnud, siis saaksin natukene seda materiali vaadata, aegasi arvestada ja näha kas samad inimesed IRL i sees sellega tegelesid kellest vaja lahti saada.
Ole nüüd suts rohkem koostöös palun, Eesti nimel25 April 2018 00:53
Margus Meigo replied to Vinni Puhh's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Vinni Puhh Ära käitu nagu kommunist kes julgeb ühte poolt maha teha ja siis mokaotsast isegi ei tule, et KEDA siis tead neist parem olema ja miks ?
Räägi konkreetsetest asjadest, tuues 5+ näidet, Millised hääletused ja kes vastu hääletas ja miks.
Siis saame vaadata mis olukord oli, ja kelle väänatud päris populistlike ideedega kaasa ei mindud.
Ole hea, paranda oma vead nüüd, too korralikud näited soovitavalt kuupäevaliselt, et saaksin vaadata,
siis sinna otsa räägi keda Sa ise pead mõistuselt erakonna iseselt kooslusena väärtulisemaks jõuks.
Ja siis arvesta ka, et Isamaliit on rohkem kui korra siseselt rünnatud läbi mustade vennaskondade, kes koos iseenda inimeste vastu kambakat on teinud,
sest oldud liiga lahke ja oma ridadesse lubatud neid kes koos saunas ei käi või kes privaatselt elab roppu elu. See on parandatav, tuleb juuri vaadata mida taastada, mis on teiste juured ja alged?
Värskematest Uus parempoolsetest näiteks EKRE võttes, mäletad kuidas ja tänu kellele tema oma alguse sai, oma kogu Eetriaja , KOGU eetriaja tuhandetes tundides kokku, tänu kellele ja miks seda selle poolt tehti, kes eetriaega andis? Mida ja millest koos räägiti, keda teeniti?
Ütlen kohe kindlasti mis ma arvan, aga, et oma meelsusega su meelsustei muudaks liialt enne kui selle teada saan, ole hea mees, paljasta nüüd oma olemus, oma päris nime võid salajaseks jätta kui seda ei julge... arusaadav..
kuid ütle Kes oled oma uskumustelt, nii nii usuliselt, kodumaiselt kui poliitiliselt (ma ei ole ühegi vääriline ega ametlik liige kuskil mitte, kuid sellegi poolest ilma vaevata, tean kus on need pooled, kes austust rohkem väärivad)25 April 2018 00:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: ARM ja TÕDE
Lähen kuulan seda STEPHEH EVERETT kes sündis ...proovin ta sünniaega leida kas ta see rikas negro mees kes punase lipsu ja ülikonnaga?
ja vaatan mis ta väärt,
võrreldes reaalsete aluspõhjade teadjatega nagu Rabbi Manis Friedman
Tema nimega leiad endale Youtubest suure hulga vajalikku materiali, otse Jumalarahvalt,
kes esikohale panevad Pere, Jumala elementaarsed käsud, mitte ei tegele maalt põgenemise ja viimaste päevade lähemale toomisega, palvetes pidevalt jumalalt nõudes ja kõike ühtemoodi heaks kiites.
Kuid ma nüüd kuulama, mis ta räägib uut ja vajalikku ning muidu tema tausta uurima.
Vaata, et Sina sama teed, minu toodud nimi on ikkagi OTSE sugulane inimestega kellest piiblis juttu
ja ole hea, kinnita ikka uuesti, sõnades, et piibli viimase lause osas nõustud, et seda tegevust vaja teha.
Ja veelkord: kogupiiblit tervikuna võtta seda kerge öelda, kuid selle terviku tähendus saab AINULT siis väärtust omada, kui lausete tähenduse suunast arusaadakse, nii kontekstis kui sellest väljas (tuleb arvestada ajalist, kultuurilist, peatükilist, keeleist, vaimset ja mitut muud konteksti ja dimensiooni iga lausega ja iga lause sisu tuleb vaadata oluliseimate lausete valguses millest arusaadi, ning keskenduda tuleb eelkõige soovidele ja vajadustele mis on Jumalal )25 April 2018 00:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: ARM ja TÕDE
Kersti Elm Malmqvist (palun) VASTA küsimusele mitte ära laveeri nagu poliitik, piiblis on lõputu hulk kohti mida ainult eraldi lausetena kõlbab lugeda ilma igasuguse kontekstita, mille sees on kogu enamus kontekstist ja mõttes.
See, et Iga lause kontekstiks on KOGU ülejäänu on nagunii elementaarne, kuid oluline on LÕPP ja ALGUS (päris testamendil, Vanal testamendil).
Murettekitav on pigem see, kui Peast kohe Südamest inimesed ei oska öelda ja arusaada, mis on Vanatestamendi viimased sõnad.
Eks "uue testamendi" kummardajad muidugi, ei sobi neile see, sest see paneks arusaama, et see aeg alles tulekul.25 April 2018 00:01
Margus Meigo commented on Maris Lakk's post.
Group: Kristlased
Parimaid olulisemaid interneti inimesi kedaselles osas meie ajastul on võimalik elusana kuulata veel: Rabbi Manis Friedman
Tema nimega palju häid kanaleid on Youtubes;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AttUa-uK8NI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manis_Friedmanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AttUa-uK8NI
24 April 2018 23:56
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Kristlased
Tegelikult ükski küps inimene nüüd, kes keele ja sõnade olemusest, otsesest tähendusest arusaab, kohe kindlasti nii ei soovi ei mõelda ette kujutada ega ka seda ammugi mitte sõnades kinnitada, selle esimesee hüüdlause osas
ma pole kunagi tegelikult, lasest saati roppusi ega ropendamist, sõimamist mõistnud, kogematta vandumistest saan veel aru, need peegeldused kellest meie hing nakatanud vahetevahel on... kuid otsene ropendamine päris segadust-tekitavalt müstiline ja häiriv alati olnud, olgugi, et ma väga a-sotsiaalsest perest ja paljude erinevate sõbrapuntide hulgast, anarhistidest pättide ja vana küla joodikuteni, ...alati kui uurinud, siis tundub, et nad ise ka pole arusaanud ega mõelnud mida suust aeti... on ka need kes marru lähevad kui nende jäledusi peatada proovid kerge sõbraliku noomimise või sisedialoogi tekitamisega, nendel tuleb silm peal hoida ja eriti suurt rõhku panna kui neid aidata plaanis, või neist kaugele minna kui rammu ehtkel pole olukorra muutmiseks24 April 2018 23:52
Margus Meigo replied to Ülle Lindjärv's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Kui Mehe ja naise seadused korda saada, see nüüd päris õlekõrreks ma ei nimetaks, rohkem nagu ellujäämise aluse üks nurgakividest, olulisematest sammastest (samas skaalas oleks Looduse austamine, Jumalale allumine ja inimliigi täiustamine kõige teise nelja mainitud nurgakivi suunas, kuni valmis saame selliseks, et ilus vaadata)24 April 2018 23:45
Margus Meigo replied to Ülle Lindjärv's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Tark otsus seegi inimkonnale
Kui meie selle seadustame, siis see takistab kogu maakera Internatsionaalseid plaane
See on palju suurema olulisusega kui arvata oskame, sest see jääb aegade raamatusse kirja: Oli segaduste aja tipul, Riik kes oma suuresti segaduses rahva, sai suurte ähvardavate jõudude poolt, IGAS ilmakaarest meid ähvardavate suurvõimude kaitseks EESRINDA astus julgelt ning tegi inimajaloo õigesuunalise muudatuse suunalise muudatuse kogu oma viimase õlekõrre otsas olevas riigis, tõestamaks Jumalae, et seda riiki on tarvis, sellel riigil on vajadus ja mõte, julgus ja selgemeelsus, oluliseima osas.24 April 2018 23:45
Margus Meigo replied to Vinni Puhh's comment.
Group: Kristlased
mis ajast see IRL demagoogiaga tegelema on hakanud, ta kõige demagoogiasetum "partei" me maal oma algete poolt kes olnud on.
Mis moodi meil Eestis Su arvates seda tehakse, see peaks maailma ime olema, kui see põhiseaduse muutmine läbi läheks,
JUST sellepärast, et siin on võlts parempoolseid jõude, kes oma enda vendadele palki saeb ja nuga seljataga hoiab,
Iga inimene kes selle teema osas vastu võitleb mehena, tuleks reeturite listi panna,
iga naine aga, tuleks vaadata kui KELLE sõnu ta esindab ja need üles otsida, KES ta pea sassi ajas, need üles otsid,a naist pole sobilik mudaga loopida sest me ei tea millega ja kuidas ta valesi asju ütlema pandi, kas manipulatsiooniga lasest saati, ähvardusega jõhkralt või lihtsalt blondeeriti juukseid liialt ning polnud ühtegi mõistlikku meest tema ümber kes ütleks, kuidas reaalsus on. Ehk ei olnud armastavaid mehi ta ümber.
Emale tuleb andestada kõik sest ta meid siia ilma sünnitanud ja tema sõnade tagamaid me ei pruugi teada, aga eksimine oleks liialt ränk, et isegi proovida,
Mees aga PEAB Jumala ees vastutuse võtma, me oleme ainukene kes saab24 April 2018 23:38
Margus Meigo replied to Olga Busheva's comment.
Group: Kristlased
kas see on venekeelne tähendus,
Kas saad tõlkida mida küsisin?24 April 2018 23:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
John Turmel is not really an option to wear or not, if you proper from this section that must wear
24 April 2018 18:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
well, for antifas and anarchists protesting usually is party, not like they are sober mostly , what if the protest happens middle of halloween would be another case,
But again, how to solve the feminist moslim women protest, ...and how we know they are women under mask.. and how we know not to make extreme mistake against womens by crabbibg them or removing their masks...
But again, how to solve the feminist moslim women protest, ...and how we know they are women under mask.. and how we know not to make extreme mistake against womens by crabbibg them or removing their masks...
24 April 2018 18:16
Margus Meigo commented on Jevgeni Ossinovski's post.
Ja mis jura, selliste Facebooki lehtedega on, kas need vist reaalselt lubatud eks: https://www.facebook.com/sotsimeemid/posts/1842236595806593
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Olgu lubatud mis iganes, aga anonüümselt.. ma pole nii kindel, kas vaja igast asju lubada
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Olgu lubatud mis iganes, aga anonüümselt.. ma pole nii kindel, kas vaja igast asju lubada
24 April 2018 17:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sotsiaaldemokraatlikud Meemid asi selles ongi, et kui asjadest päriselt arusaada, siis saab aru inimene, et see on asjakohane küsimus ja mu küsimuse tagamaa põhjusteni, tundub, et kellegil siin on jupp maad veel
24 April 2018 17:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: ARM ja TÕDE
Ikka vanatestamendi lõpu, viimast lauset, sellesse usute ka eks ? Ning mehe JA naise pühasse liitu?24 April 2018 17:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: ARM ja TÕDE
Kersti Elm Malmqvist Heaküll, aga kas saad sügavamalt selgitada, apostlite nimed kelle õpetustes püsite ja iga apostli kohta olulisemad punktid mille eest ja mille vastu nad seisid, siis selge pilt24 April 2018 16:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sotsiaaldemokraatlikud Meemid ilmselgelt tuleb asjade üle mõelda ja neid üle mõelda, kordades, aastaid kui kohe arusaama ei tule, seni kuni arusaam saabub.
Kuna see minu eriala, aastaid järjest mõelda nende asjade osas (mitmes ajas, mitmes meeles) mis ühiskonnas on poolikult mõeldud, valesti või mõtlemata jäetud, siis tasub kuulda võtta, muidu sa vaidled nalja ja emotsiooni, poliitika seisukohalt sellega kes asjadest arusaanud selliselt, kuidas inimliigile päriselt vaja on. Et me inimliigi võimed endale uuesti tagasisaaksime.
Naljapärast ka ära vaidle muidu nagu see oleks sama, kui kuntsnik kes raketile viisnurki joonistab (arvates, et tal side raketiga)
hakkab vaidlema raketiasjade osas inseneriga kes raketi tööle paneb või sellega kes raketi vajalikuse on selgeks mõelnud.
Milline Sinu seisukoht on?
Kas saad selgindada veel?
Kuna see minu eriala, aastaid järjest mõelda nende asjade osas (mitmes ajas, mitmes meeles) mis ühiskonnas on poolikult mõeldud, valesti või mõtlemata jäetud, siis tasub kuulda võtta, muidu sa vaidled nalja ja emotsiooni, poliitika seisukohalt sellega kes asjadest arusaanud selliselt, kuidas inimliigile päriselt vaja on. Et me inimliigi võimed endale uuesti tagasisaaksime.
Naljapärast ka ära vaidle muidu nagu see oleks sama, kui kuntsnik kes raketile viisnurki joonistab (arvates, et tal side raketiga)
hakkab vaidlema raketiasjade osas inseneriga kes raketi tööle paneb või sellega kes raketi vajalikuse on selgeks mõelnud.
Milline Sinu seisukoht on?
Kas saad selgindada veel?
24 April 2018 16:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
John Turmel Can You explain further, i am illiterate in English
oh, ok, it is Carneval: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mardi_Gras
But about muslim communities, who protest? (and when they are on the border of west and..whatever the other side is where covering face is not right but requirement)
Or if they turn antifa in to religios freedom?
oh, ok, it is Carneval: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mardi_Gras
But about muslim communities, who protest? (and when they are on the border of west and..whatever the other side is where covering face is not right but requirement)
Or if they turn antifa in to religios freedom?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mardi_Gras
24 April 2018 16:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Veel kuulamist
http://podcast.kuku.postimees.ee/podcast/intervjuu-saade-liisa-oviir-kirikute-soov-defineerida-abielu-pohiseaduses/
.:.
http://kuku.postimees.ee/index.php?action=subject&id_broadcast=12&id_subject=2790http://podcast.kuku.postimees.ee/podcast/intervjuu-saade-liisa-oviir-kirikute-soov-defineerida-abielu-pohiseaduses/
24 April 2018 16:40
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanis Kuusemäe's post.
Group: EKRE Vändra
Vot see on üks Õige tool,
Ainult lipsu ei sobi kanda sellisel toolil, rõivad ka kuninglikumad peaks olema24 April 2018 13:25
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanis Kuusemäe's post.
Group: EKRE Vändra
Mida Ansipi õde Keskerakonnas tegi on omamoodi müstika, nagu sisemisioonil v24 April 2018 13:25
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanis Kuusemäe's post.
Group: EKRE Vändra
Ilus pealkiri24 April 2018 13:23
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanis Kuusemäe's post.
Group: EKRE Vändra
Õige oleks need iniemste nimed ja arvamused välja tuua, arvamused eriti teravalt, et selgeks saaks24 April 2018 13:22
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanis Kuusemäe's post.
24 April 2018 13:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Vändra
Vot need mu tervituslaused, mille osas miskiaeg kui Vändra satun, rääkida sooviks,
Ma ise Võidulast24 April 2018 13:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Vändra
kukuraadios, miskid venehäälega noored, ...tihedamad kuulajad kindlasti teavad saate nime rääkida,
muidu juba soendavad ka seda häälte jaotust,
selgitasid nad, et Keskerakond kindlasti reformiga ei tegele.. kuid EKREga neil mitugi olulist ühist alustala ja valijad ka nõustuvad nii.
(mitte, isiklikult võtta)
mõtlen, et olenematta teoreetilisest võimalikusest ja välistest märkidest,
selle välismaa nähtamatust kindast, kes on seda projekti algusest saati plaaninud, kinnas kes soovib EKRE oma ketikoerana kasutada algse parempoolse valitsuse eemale puksimisega,
et siis Alexander Dugini "NEw Right" võrgustikud igal maal saaks koos 2020 ks muudatused tehtud (uus parempoolsus, nagu internatsionaalid, enamuses kõik sama ainult parempoolsete ühiskonna väliste püüdlustega)
tehtud nii, et nende käpa all on nagunii vanast ajast suurem osa internatsionaalsuse kaudu seotud liberaalid ja sotsalistid (kelle Org. on ÜRO tasemel..)
ja siis parempoolsetest ka nii suur hulk kui võimalik, male laua mõlemast otsast
See elementaarne strateegia, meie Eestlastele see lihtne peaks olema, nüüd nad lihtsalt teevad asju ilusamini jättes kohalikele sektsioonidele vabadus tegutseda hoides neid ainult inspireeritud läbi mõne variisiku, kes "jooned paika paneb".
Uusi parempoolseid ka vaja, et
neid mugavaks ja pealiskaudseks läinud Liberaale-Demokraate-Kommuniste paigal ja kohale peksta, ja likvideerida neid kes tõsiselt jalus internatsionaalsetes plaanides, kes unustanud oma koha,
Dugini suurplaanides. siis selleks kasutatakse New Right / Uus Parempoolseid - Uus Konservatiivseid.
USA presidenti nad ka enda omaks peavad, seostatud Zirinovski kõnega Bushile kus ütles:
"Me Venelased, varsti valime USA's ise endale presidendi, küll sa näed, George.."
ja arvata, et Zirinovski puhul tegu oleks mingi suvalise hullu vanamehega.. on ikka väga naiivne. Ta isegi nii kõva mees, et avalikult öelnud, et lammaste karja haldamiseks tegi liberaalide-demokraatide partey.
Asja juurde käib veel sereotüüpilise parempoolsuse imago mida vaskapoolsed saaksid propakandas kasutada ja kõrged ametnikud suurtes internatsionaalsetes aruteludes "Mida radikaalidega teha / kuidas globaalselt rahu hallata / inimliiki arendada / kosmoseelanikude silmis viisakaks jääda...saab jätta lõpuks alles ainult need kes viisakad.. "
Nad niisama ei naljata nende plaanidega, kuid me Eestlastena, minu silmis nii targad, õilsad ja tublid, et iga sarviku käest alati pääsenud oleme ja pääsema ka seekord,
surfame lainetes mida pakuvad ja keerame vindi veel sedasi .. et nad veel mõtlevad kolm korda enne kui üritatakse meie maa poliitikat manipuleerida,
Igasuguste seaduste ja projektide kokkulangemisel, tundub, et 2020 neks ikka päris suured ja lõplikumad suunad peaks saabuma, Rooma impeeriumi rahumeelseks uueks perioodiks,
kuid kui me nende robotite seadusealla ei soovi jääda, mida kõrgeimate organsiatsioonide kaudu meile peale panna ähvardatakse hullemini kui Syyriale ja P.Koreale, kui "Demokraatia" vastu astume (sest ainuke lahendus vabaks saada, on EEESTI poliitsüsteem teha, mitte olla üks väike osake, karbike, demokraatlikust-kommunistlikust süsteemist., vaid midagi mis põhineb EEESTI maailmatarkade arusaamadel, kuidas saab olla ja kuidas peaks olema.. Valgustatud maarahva struktuuridega kuningriigi laadne kord oleks mõeldav kui mingit väärikust ja rahvast säilitada soovime ... seadused ju, millega salaja meil maad sõnaotseses mõttes alt praegu likvideeritakse . need tuleb katkestada, raha tagasi maksta ja maa ainult rendile anda MITTE müüa, ... praegu saab välismaa osta enamuse Eestimaa vabast maast ja asukohtadest... ja seda läbi vene tankistide ja tava vene perede, kelle pangalaenu aidatakse nähtamatult maksta, ka tehakse ... miks nad (või ameeriklased, rootslasedki) ei peaks ?
See oleks ju veider, kui seda ei tehtaks... võimalusi Riigi ostmiseks antakse ju peaaegu, et tasuta.. patt on kui ei kasuta)24 April 2018 13:19
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24 April 2018 13:02
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanis Kuusemäe's post.
Group: EKRE Vändra
Aga mis keskerakonna ja EKRE liigu vahel juhtus, et peale aastaseid koostöid, tihedamaid kui ühegi teise erakonna vahel kunagi neil jätkusuutlikult olnud on, EKRE eetriajast üle 90% kindlasti tuli keskerakonna loal, ...siis järsku nüüd, peale Ratasega sõnulemist riigikogus, kus viimane EKREt Reformiga sõbrutsemises süüdistas...
et ma pole vahepealt päris hästi arusaanud, kus see tüli tekkis ja miks, mis suurimateks ajanditeks ?24 April 2018 12:49
Margus Meigo commented on John Turmel's post.
NO offence, it is not sabotage against You but it has been structured sabotage against Yahoo in last 10+ or so years, one service after another, piece by piece is made less working, eliminated or unficed.
Not even starting to talk about fixker uploading & news headlines that at times have been on front page not even liberal anymore but just plain discusting.
But to kill a groups, this is like last blow
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how low they can go.. pretty low. They have done this to so many services where pentagram has took ower, just Yahoo is so large it takes time,
CouchSurfing for example, they eliminated by destruction with in years after new desing and now from world most promising alternative travel scene before it reaced a milliom members ... is no more.
It was not just a website.. but it projected NEW dimension, idea in to human head how the travel can and should be. With out comeerical hotels.
top of that..
And after may 25, 2018 when Internationalists privacy law will hit the EU that USA have to complay, and what might come after this... most websites will just for ease, break access to most good functions.
Facebook already removed phone number search.
Google at same time have eliminated many services... with massive amount of human private data and digital life... last one is Links shortening service they shutting down.
https://lifehacker.com/top-10-services-google-killed-off-1792897076
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Discontinued_Google_services
Who knows what go's next.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Yahoo!-owned_sites_and_services
Some services that allow to much , in person contact and efficiant ad free communication that leaves great history behind for proof of time and events... and search functions... this the New Rulers (same old, Roman Empire & aliens) do not like so much...
They wil lfigure out how to handle other services in coming times unless we make stronger stand and..
Not even starting to talk about fixker uploading & news headlines that at times have been on front page not even liberal anymore but just plain discusting.
But to kill a groups, this is like last blow
---
how low they can go.. pretty low. They have done this to so many services where pentagram has took ower, just Yahoo is so large it takes time,
CouchSurfing for example, they eliminated by destruction with in years after new desing and now from world most promising alternative travel scene before it reaced a milliom members ... is no more.
It was not just a website.. but it projected NEW dimension, idea in to human head how the travel can and should be. With out comeerical hotels.
top of that..
And after may 25, 2018 when Internationalists privacy law will hit the EU that USA have to complay, and what might come after this... most websites will just for ease, break access to most good functions.
Facebook already removed phone number search.
Google at same time have eliminated many services... with massive amount of human private data and digital life... last one is Links shortening service they shutting down.
https://lifehacker.com/top-10-services-google-killed-off-1792897076
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Discontinued_Google_services
Who knows what go's next.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Yahoo!-owned_sites_and_services
Some services that allow to much , in person contact and efficiant ad free communication that leaves great history behind for proof of time and events... and search functions... this the New Rulers (same old, Roman Empire & aliens) do not like so much...
They wil lfigure out how to handle other services in coming times unless we make stronger stand and..
https://lifehacker.com/top-10-services-google-killed-off-1792897076
24 April 2018 12:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i know, it is a bit harder one, innit
24 April 2018 12:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Okey whatabout Muslims hijabs & ninjas?
Should they be shoot on spot for precation or .. how to make difference and in what country border, where go's the line ?
Should they be shoot on spot for precation or .. how to make difference and in what country border, where go's the line ?
24 April 2018 12:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
John Turmel badass
24 April 2018 12:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Commutation
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In January 2017, a Justice Department source said that Manning was on President Obama's short list for a possible commutation.[206] On January 17, 2017, President Obama commuted all but four months of Manning's remaining sentence.[21][207] In a press conference held on January 18, Obama stated that Manning's original 35-year prison sentence was "very disproportionate relative to what other leakers have received" and that "it makes sense to commute—and not pardon—her sentence."[207][208] Notwithstanding her commutation, Manning's military appeal will continue, with her attorney saying, "We fight in her appeal to clear her name."[209]
On January 26, 2017, in her first column for The Guardian since the commutation, Manning lamented that President Obama's political opponents consistently refused to compromise, resulting in "very few permanent accomplishments" during his time in office. As The Guardian summarized it, she saw Obama's legacy as "a warning against not being bold enough."[210] In response, President Donald Trump tweeted that Manning was an "ungrateful traitor" and should "never have been released."[211]
Release
Manning was released from Fort Leavenworth's detention center at approximately 2 a.m. Central Time on May 17, 2017.[212][213] Although sentenced during her court-martial to be dishonorably discharged, Manning was reportedly returned to active unpaid "excess leave" status while her appeal is pending.[
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In January 2017, a Justice Department source said that Manning was on President Obama's short list for a possible commutation.[206] On January 17, 2017, President Obama commuted all but four months of Manning's remaining sentence.[21][207] In a press conference held on January 18, Obama stated that Manning's original 35-year prison sentence was "very disproportionate relative to what other leakers have received" and that "it makes sense to commute—and not pardon—her sentence."[207][208] Notwithstanding her commutation, Manning's military appeal will continue, with her attorney saying, "We fight in her appeal to clear her name."[209]
On January 26, 2017, in her first column for The Guardian since the commutation, Manning lamented that President Obama's political opponents consistently refused to compromise, resulting in "very few permanent accomplishments" during his time in office. As The Guardian summarized it, she saw Obama's legacy as "a warning against not being bold enough."[210] In response, President Donald Trump tweeted that Manning was an "ungrateful traitor" and should "never have been released."[211]
Release
Manning was released from Fort Leavenworth's detention center at approximately 2 a.m. Central Time on May 17, 2017.[212][213] Although sentenced during her court-martial to be dishonorably discharged, Manning was reportedly returned to active unpaid "excess leave" status while her appeal is pending.[
24 April 2018 12:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
John Turmel i guess you not really popular around antifa, liberal & anarcists scene's arent ya :D
24 April 2018 12:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"
"Manning contacted Adrian Lamo, a former "grey hat" hacker convicted in 2004 of having accessed The New York Times computer network two years earlier without permission. Lamo had been profiled that day by Kevin Poulsen in Wired magazine; the story said Lamo had been involuntarily hospitalized and diagnosed with Asperger syndrome. ] Poulsen, by then a reporter, was himself a former hacker who had used Lamo as a source several times since 2000. Indeed it was Poulsen who, in 2002, had told The New York Times that Lamo had gained unauthorized access to its network; Poulsen then wrote the story up for SecurityFocus. Lamo would hack into a system, tell the organization, then offer to fix their security, often using Poulsen as a go-between ""
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Lamo said Manning sent him several encrypted emails on May 20. He said he was unable to decrypt them but replied anyway and invited the emailer to chat on AOL IM. Lamo said he later turned the emails over to the FBI without having read them.[161]
Chats
In a series of chats between May 21 and 25, Manning—using the handle "bradass87"—told Lamo that she had leaked classified material. She introduced herself as an Army intelligence analyst, and within 17 minutes, without waiting for a reply, alluded to the leaks
// this happens when people not trained with magicmushrooms
Lamo replied several hours later. He said: "I'm a journalist and a minister. You can pick either, and treat this as a confession or an interview (never to be published) & enjoy a modicum of legal protection." They talked about restricted material in general, then Manning made her first explicit reference to the leaks: "This is what I do for friends." She linked to a section of the May 21, 2010, version of Wikipedia's article on WikiLeaks, which described the WikiLeaks release in March that year of a Department of Defense report on WikiLeaks itself. She added "the one below that is mine too"; the section below in the same article referred to the leak of the Baghdad airstrike ("Collateral Murder") video. Manning said she felt isolated and fragile, and was reaching out to someone she hoped might understand.
Lamo again assured her that she was speaking in confidence. Manning wrote: "but im not a source for you ... im talking to you as someone who needs moral and emotional fucking support," and Lamo replied: "i told you, none of this is for print."
// jep, we can see that, Roger
Simple mistakes of intelligence protocols:
"She explained that "i cant separate myself from others ... i feel connected to everybody ... like they were distant family," and cited Carl Sagan, Richard Feynman and Elie Wiesel. She said she hoped the material would lead to "hopefully worldwide discussion, debates, and reforms. if not ... than [sic] we're doomed as a species." She said she had downloaded the material onto music CD-RWs, erased the music and replaced it with a compressed split file. Part of the reason no one noticed, she said, was that staff were working 14 hours a day, seven days a week, and "people stopped caring after 3 weeks.""
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"Shortly after the first chat with Manning, Lamo discussed the information with Chet Uber of the volunteer group Project Vigilant, which researches cybercrime, and with Timothy Webster, a friend who had worked in Army counterintelligence. Both advised Lamo to go to the authorities. His friend informed the Army's Criminal Investigation Command (CID), and Lamo was contacted by CID agents shortly thereafter.[10] He told them he believed Manning was endangering lives. He was largely ostracized by the hacker community afterwards. Nicks argues, on the other hand, that it was thanks to Lamo that the government had months to ameliorate any harm caused by the release of the diplomatic cables.[
Lamo met with FBI and Army investigators on May 25 in California, and showed them the chat logs. On or around that date he also passed the story to Kevin Poulsen of Wired, and on May 27 gave him the chat logs and Manning's name under embargo. He met with the FBI again that day, at which point they told him Manning had been arrested in Iraq the day before. Poulsen and Kim Zetter broke the news of the arrest in Wired on June 6.[ Wired published around 25 percent of the chat logs on June 6 and 10, and the full logs in July 2011 "
Manning's offenses carried a maximum sentence of 90 years.
On April 14, 2014, Manning's request for clemency was denied; the case went to the United States Army Court of Criminal Appeals for further review.
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On September 3, 2013, Manning's lawyer filed a Petition for Commutation of Sentence to President Obama through the pardon attorney at the Department of Justice and Secretary of the Army John M. McHugh. The petition, which was filed with the legal name "Bradley Manning" and used male-gender pronouns,[200] contended that Manning's disclosures did not cause any "real damage", and that the documents in question did not merit protection as they were not sensitive.
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"Manning contacted Adrian Lamo, a former "grey hat" hacker convicted in 2004 of having accessed The New York Times computer network two years earlier without permission. Lamo had been profiled that day by Kevin Poulsen in Wired magazine; the story said Lamo had been involuntarily hospitalized and diagnosed with Asperger syndrome. ] Poulsen, by then a reporter, was himself a former hacker who had used Lamo as a source several times since 2000. Indeed it was Poulsen who, in 2002, had told The New York Times that Lamo had gained unauthorized access to its network; Poulsen then wrote the story up for SecurityFocus. Lamo would hack into a system, tell the organization, then offer to fix their security, often using Poulsen as a go-between ""
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Lamo said Manning sent him several encrypted emails on May 20. He said he was unable to decrypt them but replied anyway and invited the emailer to chat on AOL IM. Lamo said he later turned the emails over to the FBI without having read them.[161]
Chats
In a series of chats between May 21 and 25, Manning—using the handle "bradass87"—told Lamo that she had leaked classified material. She introduced herself as an Army intelligence analyst, and within 17 minutes, without waiting for a reply, alluded to the leaks
// this happens when people not trained with magicmushrooms
Lamo replied several hours later. He said: "I'm a journalist and a minister. You can pick either, and treat this as a confession or an interview (never to be published) & enjoy a modicum of legal protection." They talked about restricted material in general, then Manning made her first explicit reference to the leaks: "This is what I do for friends." She linked to a section of the May 21, 2010, version of Wikipedia's article on WikiLeaks, which described the WikiLeaks release in March that year of a Department of Defense report on WikiLeaks itself. She added "the one below that is mine too"; the section below in the same article referred to the leak of the Baghdad airstrike ("Collateral Murder") video. Manning said she felt isolated and fragile, and was reaching out to someone she hoped might understand.
Lamo again assured her that she was speaking in confidence. Manning wrote: "but im not a source for you ... im talking to you as someone who needs moral and emotional fucking support," and Lamo replied: "i told you, none of this is for print."
// jep, we can see that, Roger
Simple mistakes of intelligence protocols:
"She explained that "i cant separate myself from others ... i feel connected to everybody ... like they were distant family," and cited Carl Sagan, Richard Feynman and Elie Wiesel. She said she hoped the material would lead to "hopefully worldwide discussion, debates, and reforms. if not ... than [sic] we're doomed as a species." She said she had downloaded the material onto music CD-RWs, erased the music and replaced it with a compressed split file. Part of the reason no one noticed, she said, was that staff were working 14 hours a day, seven days a week, and "people stopped caring after 3 weeks.""
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"Shortly after the first chat with Manning, Lamo discussed the information with Chet Uber of the volunteer group Project Vigilant, which researches cybercrime, and with Timothy Webster, a friend who had worked in Army counterintelligence. Both advised Lamo to go to the authorities. His friend informed the Army's Criminal Investigation Command (CID), and Lamo was contacted by CID agents shortly thereafter.[10] He told them he believed Manning was endangering lives. He was largely ostracized by the hacker community afterwards. Nicks argues, on the other hand, that it was thanks to Lamo that the government had months to ameliorate any harm caused by the release of the diplomatic cables.[
Lamo met with FBI and Army investigators on May 25 in California, and showed them the chat logs. On or around that date he also passed the story to Kevin Poulsen of Wired, and on May 27 gave him the chat logs and Manning's name under embargo. He met with the FBI again that day, at which point they told him Manning had been arrested in Iraq the day before. Poulsen and Kim Zetter broke the news of the arrest in Wired on June 6.[ Wired published around 25 percent of the chat logs on June 6 and 10, and the full logs in July 2011 "
Manning's offenses carried a maximum sentence of 90 years.
On April 14, 2014, Manning's request for clemency was denied; the case went to the United States Army Court of Criminal Appeals for further review.
-
On September 3, 2013, Manning's lawyer filed a Petition for Commutation of Sentence to President Obama through the pardon attorney at the Department of Justice and Secretary of the Army John M. McHugh. The petition, which was filed with the legal name "Bradley Manning" and used male-gender pronouns,[200] contended that Manning's disclosures did not cause any "real damage", and that the documents in question did not merit protection as they were not sensitive.
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24 April 2018 12:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Even the name sounds as something out of esoteric or army intel cover project name, "Man'ning"
& why that:
"Manning said heshe gave WikiLeaks a video, in late March 2010, of the Granai airstrike in Afghanistan. The airstrike occurred on May 4, 2009, in the village of Granai, Afghanistan, killing 86 to 147 Afghan civilians. The video was never published; Julian Assange said in March 2013 that Daniel Domscheit-Berg had taken it with him when he left WikiLeaks and had apparently destroyed it "
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_zC44SBaZPoQmJUYURBUnBycUk/edit
& why that:
"Manning said heshe gave WikiLeaks a video, in late March 2010, of the Granai airstrike in Afghanistan. The airstrike occurred on May 4, 2009, in the village of Granai, Afghanistan, killing 86 to 147 Afghan civilians. The video was never published; Julian Assange said in March 2013 that Daniel Domscheit-Berg had taken it with him when he left WikiLeaks and had apparently destroyed it "
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_zC44SBaZPoQmJUYURBUnBycUk/edit
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_zC44SBaZPoQmJUYURBUnBycUk/edit
24 April 2018 11:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Equanimity (Latin: æquanimitas having an even mind; aequus even animus mind/soul) is a state of psychological stability and composure which is undisturbed by experience of or exposure to emotions, pain, or other phenomena that may cause others to lose the balance of their mind. The virtue and value of equanimity is extolled and advocated by a number of major religions and ancient philosophies.
Judaism
Many Jewish thinkers highlight the importance of equanimity (Menuhat ha-Nefesh or Yishuv ha-Da'at) as a necessary foundation for moral and spiritual development. The virtue of equanimity receives particular attention in the writings of rabbis such as Rabbi Israel Bal Shem Tov Menachem Mendel Lefin and Simcha Zissel Ziv.
Christianity
Samuel Johnson defined equanimity as "evenness of mind, neither elated nor depressed." In Christian philosophy, equanimity is considered essential for carrying out the theological virtues of gentleness, contentment, temperance, and charity.
Islam
The word “Islam” is derived from the Arabic word aslama, which denotes the peace that comes from total surrender and acceptance[7]. A true Muslim would experientially behold that everything happening is meant to be, and stems from the ultimate wisdom of God; hence, being a true Muslim can therefore be understood to mean that one is in a state of equanimity.
Equanimity (upekṣhā) is also mentioned in Patañjali's Yoga Sutras (1.33),[2] as one of the four sublime attitudes, along with loving-kindness (maitri), compassion (karuṇā), and joy (mudita). It is related to the idea of Vairagya or "dispassion". The Upeksha Yoga school foregrounds equanimity as the most important tenet of a yoga practice.[3]
In many Yoga traditions, the virtue of equanimity can be one of the results attained through regular meditation, combined with regular practice of pranayama, asanas and mental disciplines, which clear the mind and bring one inexorably toward a state of health and balance.
Stoicism
Equanimity is a central concept in Stoic ethics and psychology. The Greek stoics use the word apatheia or ataraxia whereas the Roman stoics used the Latin word aequanimitas. The Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius's Meditations detail a philosophy of service and duty, describing how to find and preserve equanimity in the midst of conflict by following nature as a source of guidance and inspiration. His adoptive father Antoninus Pius's last word was uttered when the tribune of the night-watch came to ask him for the night's password — Pius decided upon "aequanimitas" (equanimity).
Pyrrhonism
In Pyrrhonism the term used for for equanimity is ataraxia, which means to be unperturbed. Ataraxia the goal of Pyrrhonist practice.
Buddhism
In Buddhism, equanimity (upekkhā, upekṣhā) is one of the four sublime attitudes and is considered:
Neither a thought nor an emotion, it is rather the steady conscious realization of reality's transience. It is the ground for wisdom and freedom and the protector of compassion and love. While some may think of equanimity as dry neutrality or cool aloofness, mature equanimity produces a radiance and warmth of being. The Buddha described a mind filled with equanimity as "abundant, exalted, immeasurable, without hostility and without ill-will."
— [4]
Equanimity can also be cultivated through meditation[5]
Indian people's:
"When we are aware of our true nature[according to whom?], the individual ego does not operate anymore, hence the outcome is equanimity. When one is fully aware, one does not become attached to the world, rather one acts as a "witness" or "seer". The world is apparent and unfolds in front of our awareness, but due to lack of clarity, we identify with the body and the mind and become finite and limited. The only unchanging reality is pure awareness.
According to the 'Bhagavad Gītā', everyone can eventually achieve equanimity through spiritual practice leading to self realization"
Bahai:
The voluminous Writings of the Baha'i Faith are filled with thousands of references to divine attributes, of which equanimity is one. Similar in intent and more frequently used than "equanimity" in the Baha'i Writings are "detachment" and "selflessness" which dispose human beings to free themselves from inordinate reactions to the changes and chances of the world. Humanity is called upon to show complete and sublime detachment from aught else but God, from all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth, from the material world and from the promptings of their own interests and passions. Related concepts include faith, the concept of growing through suffering and being tested, fortitude under trials, dignity, patience, prudence, moderation, freedom from material things, radiant acquiescence, wisdom and evanescence.
The following quote by 'Abdu'l-Baha offers a perspective aimed at cultivating equanimity. He wrote: "Grieve thou not over the troubles and hardships of this nether world, nor be thou glad in times of ease and comfort, for both shall pass away. This present life is even as a swelling wave, or a mirage, or drifting shadows. Could ever a distorted image on the desert serve as refreshing waters? No, by the Lord of Lords! Never can reality and the mere semblance of reality be one, and wide is the difference between fancy and fact, between truth and the phantom thereof. Know thou that the Kingdom is the real world, and this nether place is only its shadow stretching out. A shadow hath no life of its own; its existence is only a fantasy, and nothing more; it is but images reflected in water, and seeming as pictures to the eye. Rely upon God.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equanimity
Judaism
Many Jewish thinkers highlight the importance of equanimity (Menuhat ha-Nefesh or Yishuv ha-Da'at) as a necessary foundation for moral and spiritual development. The virtue of equanimity receives particular attention in the writings of rabbis such as Rabbi Israel Bal Shem Tov Menachem Mendel Lefin and Simcha Zissel Ziv.
Christianity
Samuel Johnson defined equanimity as "evenness of mind, neither elated nor depressed." In Christian philosophy, equanimity is considered essential for carrying out the theological virtues of gentleness, contentment, temperance, and charity.
Islam
The word “Islam” is derived from the Arabic word aslama, which denotes the peace that comes from total surrender and acceptance[7]. A true Muslim would experientially behold that everything happening is meant to be, and stems from the ultimate wisdom of God; hence, being a true Muslim can therefore be understood to mean that one is in a state of equanimity.
Equanimity (upekṣhā) is also mentioned in Patañjali's Yoga Sutras (1.33),[2] as one of the four sublime attitudes, along with loving-kindness (maitri), compassion (karuṇā), and joy (mudita). It is related to the idea of Vairagya or "dispassion". The Upeksha Yoga school foregrounds equanimity as the most important tenet of a yoga practice.[3]
In many Yoga traditions, the virtue of equanimity can be one of the results attained through regular meditation, combined with regular practice of pranayama, asanas and mental disciplines, which clear the mind and bring one inexorably toward a state of health and balance.
Stoicism
Equanimity is a central concept in Stoic ethics and psychology. The Greek stoics use the word apatheia or ataraxia whereas the Roman stoics used the Latin word aequanimitas. The Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius's Meditations detail a philosophy of service and duty, describing how to find and preserve equanimity in the midst of conflict by following nature as a source of guidance and inspiration. His adoptive father Antoninus Pius's last word was uttered when the tribune of the night-watch came to ask him for the night's password — Pius decided upon "aequanimitas" (equanimity).
Pyrrhonism
In Pyrrhonism the term used for for equanimity is ataraxia, which means to be unperturbed. Ataraxia the goal of Pyrrhonist practice.
Buddhism
In Buddhism, equanimity (upekkhā, upekṣhā) is one of the four sublime attitudes and is considered:
Neither a thought nor an emotion, it is rather the steady conscious realization of reality's transience. It is the ground for wisdom and freedom and the protector of compassion and love. While some may think of equanimity as dry neutrality or cool aloofness, mature equanimity produces a radiance and warmth of being. The Buddha described a mind filled with equanimity as "abundant, exalted, immeasurable, without hostility and without ill-will."
— [4]
Equanimity can also be cultivated through meditation[5]
Indian people's:
"When we are aware of our true nature[according to whom?], the individual ego does not operate anymore, hence the outcome is equanimity. When one is fully aware, one does not become attached to the world, rather one acts as a "witness" or "seer". The world is apparent and unfolds in front of our awareness, but due to lack of clarity, we identify with the body and the mind and become finite and limited. The only unchanging reality is pure awareness.
According to the 'Bhagavad Gītā', everyone can eventually achieve equanimity through spiritual practice leading to self realization"
Bahai:
The voluminous Writings of the Baha'i Faith are filled with thousands of references to divine attributes, of which equanimity is one. Similar in intent and more frequently used than "equanimity" in the Baha'i Writings are "detachment" and "selflessness" which dispose human beings to free themselves from inordinate reactions to the changes and chances of the world. Humanity is called upon to show complete and sublime detachment from aught else but God, from all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth, from the material world and from the promptings of their own interests and passions. Related concepts include faith, the concept of growing through suffering and being tested, fortitude under trials, dignity, patience, prudence, moderation, freedom from material things, radiant acquiescence, wisdom and evanescence.
The following quote by 'Abdu'l-Baha offers a perspective aimed at cultivating equanimity. He wrote: "Grieve thou not over the troubles and hardships of this nether world, nor be thou glad in times of ease and comfort, for both shall pass away. This present life is even as a swelling wave, or a mirage, or drifting shadows. Could ever a distorted image on the desert serve as refreshing waters? No, by the Lord of Lords! Never can reality and the mere semblance of reality be one, and wide is the difference between fancy and fact, between truth and the phantom thereof. Know thou that the Kingdom is the real world, and this nether place is only its shadow stretching out. A shadow hath no life of its own; its existence is only a fantasy, and nothing more; it is but images reflected in water, and seeming as pictures to the eye. Rely upon God.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equanimity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equanimity
24 April 2018 11:05
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Mis siin sees oli enne?24 April 2018 10:49
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Kuidas selle tähendus meie keeles?24 April 2018 10:49
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The Megalopsychia Hunt of Antioch are two floor mosaics from the late fifth to early sixth century, part of a large group of mosaics known collectively as the Antioch mosaics. They were discovered at the ancient village of Yakto, near Daphne, a suburb of Antioch, near the modern city of Antakya, Turkey.[1]
They are representative of the trait or virtue of megalopsychia, which has been interpreted to mean arrogance or the belief of superiority and being worthy of great things and respect.[2]
One of the mosaics depicts a medallion with a woman holding a rose in one hand with scenes of animals attacking each other, then an outer ring surrounding it of six scenes of hunters taking down their prey.[2] The mosaics are highly allegorical and carry deep symbolism that operates on multiple levels. One interpretation of these scenes is that they represent not only the strength of those depicted, but courage and the subjugation of the natural world by the ruler. It is a way of showing the assertion of order, bounty, and, above all, the victory or triumph of mankind over nature. Another interpretation would be that the female figure in the center is the representation of serenity of mind and logic, she is serene and undisturbed despite the violence surrounding her.[3] The battles surrounding her show the various rises and falls of human society, the wars they wage, the victories won and the defeats suffered.
The other mosaic has a lead male figure in a hunting scene where he is killing a lion, with men and horses fighting animals around him. He remains detached in much the same way the female figure was in the other medallion.[3] One is accepting the world around her and the other is subjugating it to his will, both are apparently unaffected by the actions happening around them because they are meant to be above it. This detachment of the mind and spirit from turmoil is part of the ideal behind the virtue of megalopsychia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalopsychia_Hunt_of_Antioch_mosaics
They are representative of the trait or virtue of megalopsychia, which has been interpreted to mean arrogance or the belief of superiority and being worthy of great things and respect.[2]
One of the mosaics depicts a medallion with a woman holding a rose in one hand with scenes of animals attacking each other, then an outer ring surrounding it of six scenes of hunters taking down their prey.[2] The mosaics are highly allegorical and carry deep symbolism that operates on multiple levels. One interpretation of these scenes is that they represent not only the strength of those depicted, but courage and the subjugation of the natural world by the ruler. It is a way of showing the assertion of order, bounty, and, above all, the victory or triumph of mankind over nature. Another interpretation would be that the female figure in the center is the representation of serenity of mind and logic, she is serene and undisturbed despite the violence surrounding her.[3] The battles surrounding her show the various rises and falls of human society, the wars they wage, the victories won and the defeats suffered.
The other mosaic has a lead male figure in a hunting scene where he is killing a lion, with men and horses fighting animals around him. He remains detached in much the same way the female figure was in the other medallion.[3] One is accepting the world around her and the other is subjugating it to his will, both are apparently unaffected by the actions happening around them because they are meant to be above it. This detachment of the mind and spirit from turmoil is part of the ideal behind the virtue of megalopsychia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalopsychia_Hunt_of_Antioch_mosaics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalopsychia_Hunt_of_Antioch_mosaics
24 April 2018 04:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Writings, less important but maybe still... so he was a bit evilsh?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nietzsche:_Philosopher,_Psychologist,_Antichrist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nietzsche:_Philosopher,_Psychologist,_Antichrist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nietzsche:_Philosopher,_Psychologist,_Antichrist
24 April 2018 04:55
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Magnanimity
Magnanimity (derived from the Latin roots magna, great, and animus, mind) is the virtue of being great of mind and heart. It encompasses, usually, a refusal to be petty, a willingness to face danger, and actions for noble purposes. Its antithesis is pusillanimity. Magnanimity is a latinization of the Greek word μεγαλοψυχία, megalopsychia which means greatness of soul and was identified by Aristotle as "the crowning virtue". Although the word magnanimity has a traditional connection to Aristotelian philosophy, it also has its own tradition in English
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Noah Webster of the American Language defines Magnanimity as such:
MAGNANIMITY, n. [L. magnanimitas; magnus, great, and animus, mind.] Greatness of mind; that elevation or dignity of soul, which encounters danger and trouble with tranquility and firmness, which raises the possessor above revenge, and makes him delight in acts of benevolence, which makes him disdain injustice and meanness, and prompts him to sacrifice personal ease, interest and safety for the accomplishment of useful and noble objects.[2]
In his Nicomachean Ethics, Aristotle considered it the suitable virtue for a great man, arising from his other virtues.[3]
Edmund Spenser, in The Faerie Queene, had each knight allegorically represent a virtue; Prince Arthur represented "magnificence", which is generally taken to mean Aristotelian magnificence.[4][5] The uncompleted work does not include Prince Arthur's book, and the significance is not clear.
Democritus states that "magnanimity consists in enduring tactlessness with mildness".
As an adjective, the concept is expressed as "magnanimous", e.g. "He is a magnanimous man." An example of referring to one as magnanimous can be seen in Hrólfs saga kraka where King Hrólfr Kraki changes the name of a court servant from Hott to Hjalti for his new-found strength and courage, after which Hjalti refuses to taunt or kill those who previously mocked him. Because of his noble actions, the king then bestows the title Magnanimous upon Hjalti.
One form of magnanimity is the generosity of the victor to the defeated. For example, magnanimity has been codified between societies by the Geneva Conventions.
Magnanimous relief efforts can serve to offset the collateral damage of war.
C. S. Lewis, in his book The Abolition of Man, refers to the chest of man as the seat of magnanimity, or sentiment, with this magnanimity working as the liaison between visceral and cerebral man.[6] Lewis asserts that, in his time, the denial of the emotions that are found in the eternal and sublime -- that which is humbling as an objective reality -- had led to "men without chests".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnanimity
Magnanimity (derived from the Latin roots magna, great, and animus, mind) is the virtue of being great of mind and heart. It encompasses, usually, a refusal to be petty, a willingness to face danger, and actions for noble purposes. Its antithesis is pusillanimity. Magnanimity is a latinization of the Greek word μεγαλοψυχία, megalopsychia which means greatness of soul and was identified by Aristotle as "the crowning virtue". Although the word magnanimity has a traditional connection to Aristotelian philosophy, it also has its own tradition in English
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Noah Webster of the American Language defines Magnanimity as such:
MAGNANIMITY, n. [L. magnanimitas; magnus, great, and animus, mind.] Greatness of mind; that elevation or dignity of soul, which encounters danger and trouble with tranquility and firmness, which raises the possessor above revenge, and makes him delight in acts of benevolence, which makes him disdain injustice and meanness, and prompts him to sacrifice personal ease, interest and safety for the accomplishment of useful and noble objects.[2]
In his Nicomachean Ethics, Aristotle considered it the suitable virtue for a great man, arising from his other virtues.[3]
Edmund Spenser, in The Faerie Queene, had each knight allegorically represent a virtue; Prince Arthur represented "magnificence", which is generally taken to mean Aristotelian magnificence.[4][5] The uncompleted work does not include Prince Arthur's book, and the significance is not clear.
Democritus states that "magnanimity consists in enduring tactlessness with mildness".
As an adjective, the concept is expressed as "magnanimous", e.g. "He is a magnanimous man." An example of referring to one as magnanimous can be seen in Hrólfs saga kraka where King Hrólfr Kraki changes the name of a court servant from Hott to Hjalti for his new-found strength and courage, after which Hjalti refuses to taunt or kill those who previously mocked him. Because of his noble actions, the king then bestows the title Magnanimous upon Hjalti.
One form of magnanimity is the generosity of the victor to the defeated. For example, magnanimity has been codified between societies by the Geneva Conventions.
Magnanimous relief efforts can serve to offset the collateral damage of war.
C. S. Lewis, in his book The Abolition of Man, refers to the chest of man as the seat of magnanimity, or sentiment, with this magnanimity working as the liaison between visceral and cerebral man.[6] Lewis asserts that, in his time, the denial of the emotions that are found in the eternal and sublime -- that which is humbling as an objective reality -- had led to "men without chests".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnanimity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnanimity
24 April 2018 04:51
Margus Meigo commented on Liisi Liska's photo.
Tuus!
24 April 2018 04:45
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kas olime muidu sellest asjast kuulnud varem?24 April 2018 04:43
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Siin ka kohtumine, millele järgmisele, selle aastasele, võiksime ikka minna, kui Eesti asjast huvitume:
" https://www.facebook.com/MustaVeenuseOrdu/
Eesti Satanistliku Foorumi Kokkutulek on alates 2006. aastast (esimesel aastal MVO Foorumi Kokkutuleku nime all) toimuv üritus, mis on suunatud Eesti Satanistliku Foorumi liikmeskonnale ning kõigile teistele huvitatutele. Kokkutulekut korraldab Musta Veenuse Ordu ja igal aastal on kohal ka mitmeid MVO liikmeid. Igal aastal on külastatud erinevat maakonda.
ESFK nimi saab sel aastal 11-aastaseks, üritustesari ise 12-aastaseks.
Varasemalt läbitud - 2006 Harjumaa, 2007 Viljandimaa, 2008 Pärnumaa, 2009 Hiiumaa, 2010 Saaremaa, 2011 Tartumaa, 2012 Järvamaa, 2013 Läänemaa, 2014 Raplamaa, 2015 Valgamaa, 2016 Lääne-Virumaa.
Sel aastal toimub ESFK 19. augustil Nisura puhkemajas, Kasepää vallas, Jõgevamaal.
Rohkem infot:
https://www.puhkaeestis.ee/et/nisura-puhkemaja
http://www.nisurapuhkemaja.ee/
Ürituse maksumuseks on traditsiooniliselt 20€ ning selles sisaldub (nagu ikka) nii majutus, toit kui ka mõned ühikud kerget alkoholi.
Ürituse osalustasu kanda alljärgnevale kontole.
Nimi: Raido Randoja
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Selgitusse märkida "ESFK 2017 osaleja nimi/nimed või siinne kasutajanimi/nimed".facebook.com
Musta Veenuse Ordu
24 April 2018 04:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Mul alati soov arusaada miks keegi on nagu on asjade osas mis on teistmoodi kui mu enda soovid,
ja siis selline mõte tuli, et ehk nad siirana nagu proovivad olla sellel poolel kes tundub, et vajab kaitset, et kes on mahasurutud ?
Kopeeritud paar teksti lõiku ka vihjas sellele (isast preestri osas kes karm oli etteulatuva murega hirmsaima osas, kuid just seda kogematta paningi lapse tegema mida karta isegi ei julgenud...)
Kuid kuna lõpuks kõik kohtuma peame, siis Eestlane-Eestlasega, mis teemad ja arusaamad peaksid laual olema, mida soovitaksite vaimurohuna kaasa võtta, kohtamisele minnes, arutamaks, uurimaks, et kuidas siis nii saab... et inimest inimesena tundma,
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Ja muidugi huvitav, et kui ringi käia, siis tundub, et suurem osa inimesi on osti vaikivad liikmed sellel Veenuseordul...pasiivselt,
oma soengute, raseerimiste, lipsude, viisnurkade, esoteerika reiki või waldorf koolidega..
siis .. kuidas see avalik front, nii viisakas, normaalne ja tagasihoidlikult väike välja näeb,
ma oleks äärmiselt üllatunud, kui tegu polegi muuga, kui ausatega, ... kuid see omakorda näitab siis, et kas nii suur võim on koondunud nii väikese seltskonna kätte, või suures plaanis ei saa olla ühelgil kui iganes kenal Sellisel organisatsioonil reaalset tähendust ega tähtsust, sest nemad ei kõiguta seda, kas raadio hommiku programmidest kuni ETV eetris pidevalt on meelega pederastiaga tegelevad eliit eetrimehed rõvemeelsuse kojutoomiseks ja "Normaliseerimiseks"...24 April 2018 04:40
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24 April 2018 04:28
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Siin üks Eestvedaja, koos Kaitseliidu sektsiooniga,
nagu pildilt näha, siis see kilav vaim on kaasas:
https://www.facebook.com/DonArlekiino
kuid muidu viisakad kutid ühiskonna mõttes
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1340824429316310&set=picfp.100001662984848.1340824425982977&type=3&theater24 April 2018 04:26
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1. Mono No Aware, 物の哀れ (Japanese)
This is one of the most famous Japanese words, and describes the particular sadness or sensitivity regarding the passage of time and the transience of life. To experience this sadness is to be affected by the fleeting nature of specific things (love, experiences, sandwiches), and become wistful or reflective about the fact that everything must end.
Sample sentence: "The passing of the seasons just fills me with a sense of mono no aware, but then I remember that summer is a steaming hellhole."
2. Dépit (French)
This French word describes the feeling of itching irritation or fury (on a small scale) that happens when you're disappointed by something, like getting rejected in love or not winning a prize.
Sample Sentence: "Urgh, I'm just so dépité that Hannibal was cancelled; I'll be miserable for the rest of the week."
3. Koev halev (Hebrew)
This refers to a certain kind of empathy. If you can't watch people suffering or miserable, particularly if you love them, because you feel it so strongly yourself — to the point of causing you serious physical pain — then this is the term for you.
Sample Sentence: "You get way too much koev halev about contestants on The Bigger Loser."
4. Hi Fun Kou Gai, ひふんこうがい (Japanese)
This Japanese term is a kind of righteous, miserable anger, a frustration and despair over a situation that seems terrible but cannot be changed. Like corruption in a government, or a friend's bad treatment.
Sample Sentence: "Oh, god, listening to old white dudes arguing about women's rights just fills me with Hi Fun Kou Gai."
5. Lebensmüde (German)
German does seem to have a lot of evocative words for emotions — which totally blasts the global stereotype of the German people as ruthlessly efficient and emotionless. Lebensmüde literally translates as "life-tired" (a lot of German words just link two or three words together to make another), and either means you do such risky things that you clearly don't care for your own safety, or that you've entered a deep, physical state of not-caring.
Sample Sentence: "You are not allowed to go drag racing again until your feeling of Lebensmüde has passed."
6. Mutterseelinallein (German)
German again — and this one is absolutely horrible. It's loneliness, but much harder-hitting than that: it's meant to evoke abandonment by everybody you love, and literally means that your mother's soul has left you. Hardcore.
Sample Sentence: "I feel so utterly Mutterseelinallein I may bake an entire cake and eat it by myself. Sitting on the floor."
7. Natsukashii 懐かしい (Japanese)
This beautiful Japanese word identifies the feeling of evocative longing for something past: a nostalgia that's also very sad, as it reminds you that what you're remembering will never come again.
Sample Sentence: "Remember Beyonce's first solo album? I've just been struck with natsukashii about it."
8. Saudade (Portuguese)
Saudade regularly tops the list of the world's most untranslatable terms. The Portuguese term, which is the basis of the entire Portuguese genre of fado music, evokes deep, soul-rending sadness, flavored with longing and melancholy.
Sample Sentence: "I've been experiencing saudade for a long time, but at least I've written some awesome song lyrics."
9. Tante 忐忑 (Chinese)
This Chinese word means a kind of nervousness or perpetual anxiety, a state of worry where your senses are so heightened that you can feel your own heartbeat.
Sample Sentence: "If they don't tell us whether the flight's going to be delayed soon I'm going to go into a permanent state of tante."
10. Toska (Russian)
The Russian word toska actually has a lot of emotional registers, if you read this definition by Vladimir Nabokov, author of Lolita: “No single word in English renders all the shades of toska. At its deepest and most painful, it is a sensation of great spiritual anguish, often without any specific cause. At less morbid levels it is a dull ache of the soul, a longing with nothing to long for, a sick pining, a vague restlessness, mental throes, yearning. In particular cases it may be the desire for somebody of something specific, nostalgia, love-sickness. At the lowest level it grades into ennui, boredom.”
Sample Sentence: "It's your first breakup. After the period of toska you'll gradually feel slightly better, and then you'll be singing Gloria Gaynor before we know it."
11. Weltschmerz (German)
This one's actually got a critical edge: it's almost an accusation. It's a kind of ennui (that's a French word meaning listlessness or severe boredom, incidentally) that translates as "world-pain". It essentially means the depression that comes from believing your problems are caused by the world itself and its unfairness and cruelty. (These days, more generously, it can just mean sadness at how depressing and horrible the modern world is.)
Sample Sentence: "If one more suburban hipster tells me they're experiencing Weltschmerz because capitalism has repressed them, I'm going to scream."
12. Xinteng 心疼 (Chinese)
This Chinese term is a literal translation of "heart ache": it's the particularly kind of sadness and pain that comes from witnessing and sharing the pain of people you love. You can translate it as "feeling sorry," but it's more physical and empathetic than that.
Sample Sentence: "I can't watch 12 Years A Slave. I suffer too much from xinteng, it would nearly kill me."
13. Viraag विराग (Hindi)
This Hindi word actually means dispassion, but a writer on the blog Better Than English notes that it can also denote a particularly kind of emotional suffering: the sadness or depression caused by separation from somebody you love.
Sample Sentence: "Skype just doesn't do much to help the viraag."
14. Wintercearig (Old English)
This may be cheating, as Old English is no longer in use — but hey, we use Latinate words all the time. Wintercearig literally means "winter-care," but it isn't about Seasonal Affective Disorder; it's more meant to be a metaphor for the strength of your sadness, which is as strong and never-ending as the bitter cold of midwinter.
Sample Sentence: "It just feels vaguely wrong to be feeling such strong wintercearig in summer."
This is one of the most famous Japanese words, and describes the particular sadness or sensitivity regarding the passage of time and the transience of life. To experience this sadness is to be affected by the fleeting nature of specific things (love, experiences, sandwiches), and become wistful or reflective about the fact that everything must end.
Sample sentence: "The passing of the seasons just fills me with a sense of mono no aware, but then I remember that summer is a steaming hellhole."
2. Dépit (French)
This French word describes the feeling of itching irritation or fury (on a small scale) that happens when you're disappointed by something, like getting rejected in love or not winning a prize.
Sample Sentence: "Urgh, I'm just so dépité that Hannibal was cancelled; I'll be miserable for the rest of the week."
3. Koev halev (Hebrew)
This refers to a certain kind of empathy. If you can't watch people suffering or miserable, particularly if you love them, because you feel it so strongly yourself — to the point of causing you serious physical pain — then this is the term for you.
Sample Sentence: "You get way too much koev halev about contestants on The Bigger Loser."
4. Hi Fun Kou Gai, ひふんこうがい (Japanese)
This Japanese term is a kind of righteous, miserable anger, a frustration and despair over a situation that seems terrible but cannot be changed. Like corruption in a government, or a friend's bad treatment.
Sample Sentence: "Oh, god, listening to old white dudes arguing about women's rights just fills me with Hi Fun Kou Gai."
5. Lebensmüde (German)
German does seem to have a lot of evocative words for emotions — which totally blasts the global stereotype of the German people as ruthlessly efficient and emotionless. Lebensmüde literally translates as "life-tired" (a lot of German words just link two or three words together to make another), and either means you do such risky things that you clearly don't care for your own safety, or that you've entered a deep, physical state of not-caring.
Sample Sentence: "You are not allowed to go drag racing again until your feeling of Lebensmüde has passed."
6. Mutterseelinallein (German)
German again — and this one is absolutely horrible. It's loneliness, but much harder-hitting than that: it's meant to evoke abandonment by everybody you love, and literally means that your mother's soul has left you. Hardcore.
Sample Sentence: "I feel so utterly Mutterseelinallein I may bake an entire cake and eat it by myself. Sitting on the floor."
7. Natsukashii 懐かしい (Japanese)
This beautiful Japanese word identifies the feeling of evocative longing for something past: a nostalgia that's also very sad, as it reminds you that what you're remembering will never come again.
Sample Sentence: "Remember Beyonce's first solo album? I've just been struck with natsukashii about it."
8. Saudade (Portuguese)
Saudade regularly tops the list of the world's most untranslatable terms. The Portuguese term, which is the basis of the entire Portuguese genre of fado music, evokes deep, soul-rending sadness, flavored with longing and melancholy.
Sample Sentence: "I've been experiencing saudade for a long time, but at least I've written some awesome song lyrics."
9. Tante 忐忑 (Chinese)
This Chinese word means a kind of nervousness or perpetual anxiety, a state of worry where your senses are so heightened that you can feel your own heartbeat.
Sample Sentence: "If they don't tell us whether the flight's going to be delayed soon I'm going to go into a permanent state of tante."
10. Toska (Russian)
The Russian word toska actually has a lot of emotional registers, if you read this definition by Vladimir Nabokov, author of Lolita: “No single word in English renders all the shades of toska. At its deepest and most painful, it is a sensation of great spiritual anguish, often without any specific cause. At less morbid levels it is a dull ache of the soul, a longing with nothing to long for, a sick pining, a vague restlessness, mental throes, yearning. In particular cases it may be the desire for somebody of something specific, nostalgia, love-sickness. At the lowest level it grades into ennui, boredom.”
Sample Sentence: "It's your first breakup. After the period of toska you'll gradually feel slightly better, and then you'll be singing Gloria Gaynor before we know it."
11. Weltschmerz (German)
This one's actually got a critical edge: it's almost an accusation. It's a kind of ennui (that's a French word meaning listlessness or severe boredom, incidentally) that translates as "world-pain". It essentially means the depression that comes from believing your problems are caused by the world itself and its unfairness and cruelty. (These days, more generously, it can just mean sadness at how depressing and horrible the modern world is.)
Sample Sentence: "If one more suburban hipster tells me they're experiencing Weltschmerz because capitalism has repressed them, I'm going to scream."
12. Xinteng 心疼 (Chinese)
This Chinese term is a literal translation of "heart ache": it's the particularly kind of sadness and pain that comes from witnessing and sharing the pain of people you love. You can translate it as "feeling sorry," but it's more physical and empathetic than that.
Sample Sentence: "I can't watch 12 Years A Slave. I suffer too much from xinteng, it would nearly kill me."
13. Viraag विराग (Hindi)
This Hindi word actually means dispassion, but a writer on the blog Better Than English notes that it can also denote a particularly kind of emotional suffering: the sadness or depression caused by separation from somebody you love.
Sample Sentence: "Skype just doesn't do much to help the viraag."
14. Wintercearig (Old English)
This may be cheating, as Old English is no longer in use — but hey, we use Latinate words all the time. Wintercearig literally means "winter-care," but it isn't about Seasonal Affective Disorder; it's more meant to be a metaphor for the strength of your sadness, which is as strong and never-ending as the bitter cold of midwinter.
Sample Sentence: "It just feels vaguely wrong to be feeling such strong wintercearig in summer."
24 April 2018 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.bustle.com/articles/93619-14-words-for-sadness-and-depression-that-dont-exist-in-english
One of the most frustrating feelings about depression is the incommunicability of it. The word "depression" in English had its own poetic connotations: the word (from Latin deprime) essentially means being forced downward, or a low, sunken place. That's pretty evocative — but it doesn't cover a lot of the emotions of depression itself; the isolation, the abyss-like fears.
"Anhedonia" is another useful English term for depressive symptoms, meaning the inability to get pleasure from activities you'd normally enjoy, and for centuries the disorder and its feelings were referred to as "melancholia," a state of deep wistfulness, misery, and withdrawal. But if you step outside English — and Latin — other languages possess words that can strongly evoke the real, lived experience of depression.
"Untranslatable" words in other languages — ones that pick up on very particular feelings or situations that can't really be understood outside their particular culture — are pretty fascinating. But beyond the untranslatables, world languages have the potential to enrich our emotional vocab. English isn't stunted when it comes to sad adjectives — you can be devastated, mournful, woebegone, crestfallen, wretched, and rueful — but sometimes, other languages pick up on stuff for which we just don't have the words for.
Is it a pipe dream to hope that some of these words find their way into everyday English usage? It's happened before; Schadenfreude, a German word meaning pleasure evoked from the pain of others, is pretty well-used in English nowadays. And it'd be a lot easier to explain your particular symptoms of sadness if you could say "Yeah, I'm feeling very lebensmüde, with just a hint of hi fun koi gai." Ah well. A girl can dream.
One of the most frustrating feelings about depression is the incommunicability of it. The word "depression" in English had its own poetic connotations: the word (from Latin deprime) essentially means being forced downward, or a low, sunken place. That's pretty evocative — but it doesn't cover a lot of the emotions of depression itself; the isolation, the abyss-like fears.
"Anhedonia" is another useful English term for depressive symptoms, meaning the inability to get pleasure from activities you'd normally enjoy, and for centuries the disorder and its feelings were referred to as "melancholia," a state of deep wistfulness, misery, and withdrawal. But if you step outside English — and Latin — other languages possess words that can strongly evoke the real, lived experience of depression.
"Untranslatable" words in other languages — ones that pick up on very particular feelings or situations that can't really be understood outside their particular culture — are pretty fascinating. But beyond the untranslatables, world languages have the potential to enrich our emotional vocab. English isn't stunted when it comes to sad adjectives — you can be devastated, mournful, woebegone, crestfallen, wretched, and rueful — but sometimes, other languages pick up on stuff for which we just don't have the words for.
Is it a pipe dream to hope that some of these words find their way into everyday English usage? It's happened before; Schadenfreude, a German word meaning pleasure evoked from the pain of others, is pretty well-used in English nowadays. And it'd be a lot easier to explain your particular symptoms of sadness if you could say "Yeah, I'm feeling very lebensmüde, with just a hint of hi fun koi gai." Ah well. A girl can dream.
https://www.bustle.com/articles/93619-14-words-for-sadness-and-depression-that-dont-exist-in-english
24 April 2018 04:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://lonerwolf.com/different-types-of-love/
8 Different Types of Love
What different types of love are you currently experiencing and how are they impacting your life?
1. “Eros” or Erotic Love
The first kind of love is Eros, which is named after the Greek god of love and fertility. Eros represents the idea of sexual passion and desire.
The ancient Greeks considered Eros to be dangerous and frightening as it involves a “loss of control” through the primal impulse to procreate. Eros is a passionate and intense form of love that arouses romantic and sexual feelings.
Eros is an exulted and beautifully idealistic love that in the hearts of the spiritually mature can be used to “recall knowledge of beauty” (as Socrates put it) through Tantra and spiritual sex. But when misguided, eros can be misused, abused and indulged in, leading to impulsive acts and broken hearts.
Eros is a primal and powerful fire that burns out quickly. It needs its flame to be fanned through one of the deeper forms of love below as it is centered around the selfish aspects of love, that is, personal infatuation and physical pleasure.
Love Catalyst: The physical body
2. “Philia” or Affectionate Love
The second type of love is philia, or friendship. The ancient Greeks valued philia far above eros because it was considered a love between equals.
Plato felt that physical attraction was not a necessary part of love, hence the use of the word platonic to mean, “without physical attraction.” Philia is a type of love that is felt among friends who’ve endured hard times together.
As Aristotle put it, philia is a “dispassionate virtuous love” that is free from the intensity of sexual attraction. It often involves the feelings of loyalty among friends, camaraderie among team mates, and the sense of sacrifice for your pack.
Examples in Films: Girl with a Pearl Earring, The Girl Next Door
Love Catalyst: The mind
3. “Storge” or Familiar Love
Although storge closely resembles philia in that it is a love without physical attraction, storge is primarily to do with kinship and familiarity. Storge is a natural form of affection that often flows between parents and their children, and children for their parents.
Storge love can even be found among childhood friends that is later shared as adults. But although storge is a powerful form of love, it can also become an obstacle on our spiritual paths, especially when our family or friends don’t align with or support our journey.
Love Catalyst: Causal (Memories)
4. “Ludus” or Playful Love
Although ludus has a bit of the erotic eros in it, it is much more than that. The Greeks thought of ludus as a playful form of love, for example, the affection between young lovers.
Ludus is that feeling we have when we go through the early stages of falling in love with someone, e.g. the fluttering heart, flirting, teasing, and feelings of euphoria.
Playfulness in love is an essential ingredient that is often lost in long-term relationships. Yet playfulness is one of the secrets to keeping the childlike innocence of your love alive, interesting and exciting.
Love Catalyst: Astral (Emotion)
5. “Mania” or Obsessive Love
Mania love is a type of love that leads a partner into a type of madness and obsessiveness. It occurs when there is an imbalance between eros and ludus.
To those who experience mania, love itself is a means of rescuing themselves; a reinforcement of their own value as the sufferer of poor self-esteem. This person wants to love and be loved to find a sense of self-value. Because of this, they can become possessive and jealous lovers, feeling as though they desperately “need” their partners.
If the other partner fails to reciprocate with the same kind of mania love, many issues prevail. This is why mania can often lead to issues such as codependency.
Love Catalyst: Survival instinct
6. “Pragma” or Enduring Love
Pragma is a love that has aged, matured and developed over time. It is beyond the physical, it has transcended the casual, and it is a unique harmony that has formed over time.
You can find pragma in married couples who’ve been together for a long time, or in friendships that have endured for decades. Unfortunately pragma is a type of love that is not easily found. We spend so much time and energy trying to find love and so little time in learning how to maintain it.
Unlike the other types of love, pragma is the result of effort on both sides. It’s the love between people who’ve learned to make compromises, have demonstrated patience and tolerance to make the relationship work.
Love Catalyst: Etheric (Unconscious)
7. “Philautia” or Self Love
The Greeks understood that in order to care for others, we must first learn to care for ourselves. This form of self-love is not the unhealthy vanity and self-obsession that is focused on personal fame, gain and fortune as is the case with Narcissism.
Instead, philautia is self-love in its healthiest form. It shares the Buddhist philosophy of “self-compassion” which is the deep understanding that only once you have the strength to love yourself and feel comfortable in your own skin, will you be able to provide love to others. As Aristotle put it, “All friendly feelings for others are an extension of a man’s feelings for himself.”
You cannot share what you do not have. If you do not love yourself, you cannot love anyone else either. The only way to truly be happy is to find that unconditional love for yourself. Only once you learn to love and understand yourself, will you be ready to search for the spiritual freedom of the Self.
8 Different Types of Love
What different types of love are you currently experiencing and how are they impacting your life?
1. “Eros” or Erotic Love
The first kind of love is Eros, which is named after the Greek god of love and fertility. Eros represents the idea of sexual passion and desire.
The ancient Greeks considered Eros to be dangerous and frightening as it involves a “loss of control” through the primal impulse to procreate. Eros is a passionate and intense form of love that arouses romantic and sexual feelings.
Eros is an exulted and beautifully idealistic love that in the hearts of the spiritually mature can be used to “recall knowledge of beauty” (as Socrates put it) through Tantra and spiritual sex. But when misguided, eros can be misused, abused and indulged in, leading to impulsive acts and broken hearts.
Eros is a primal and powerful fire that burns out quickly. It needs its flame to be fanned through one of the deeper forms of love below as it is centered around the selfish aspects of love, that is, personal infatuation and physical pleasure.
Love Catalyst: The physical body
2. “Philia” or Affectionate Love
The second type of love is philia, or friendship. The ancient Greeks valued philia far above eros because it was considered a love between equals.
Plato felt that physical attraction was not a necessary part of love, hence the use of the word platonic to mean, “without physical attraction.” Philia is a type of love that is felt among friends who’ve endured hard times together.
As Aristotle put it, philia is a “dispassionate virtuous love” that is free from the intensity of sexual attraction. It often involves the feelings of loyalty among friends, camaraderie among team mates, and the sense of sacrifice for your pack.
Examples in Films: Girl with a Pearl Earring, The Girl Next Door
Love Catalyst: The mind
3. “Storge” or Familiar Love
Although storge closely resembles philia in that it is a love without physical attraction, storge is primarily to do with kinship and familiarity. Storge is a natural form of affection that often flows between parents and their children, and children for their parents.
Storge love can even be found among childhood friends that is later shared as adults. But although storge is a powerful form of love, it can also become an obstacle on our spiritual paths, especially when our family or friends don’t align with or support our journey.
Love Catalyst: Causal (Memories)
4. “Ludus” or Playful Love
Although ludus has a bit of the erotic eros in it, it is much more than that. The Greeks thought of ludus as a playful form of love, for example, the affection between young lovers.
Ludus is that feeling we have when we go through the early stages of falling in love with someone, e.g. the fluttering heart, flirting, teasing, and feelings of euphoria.
Playfulness in love is an essential ingredient that is often lost in long-term relationships. Yet playfulness is one of the secrets to keeping the childlike innocence of your love alive, interesting and exciting.
Love Catalyst: Astral (Emotion)
5. “Mania” or Obsessive Love
Mania love is a type of love that leads a partner into a type of madness and obsessiveness. It occurs when there is an imbalance between eros and ludus.
To those who experience mania, love itself is a means of rescuing themselves; a reinforcement of their own value as the sufferer of poor self-esteem. This person wants to love and be loved to find a sense of self-value. Because of this, they can become possessive and jealous lovers, feeling as though they desperately “need” their partners.
If the other partner fails to reciprocate with the same kind of mania love, many issues prevail. This is why mania can often lead to issues such as codependency.
Love Catalyst: Survival instinct
6. “Pragma” or Enduring Love
Pragma is a love that has aged, matured and developed over time. It is beyond the physical, it has transcended the casual, and it is a unique harmony that has formed over time.
You can find pragma in married couples who’ve been together for a long time, or in friendships that have endured for decades. Unfortunately pragma is a type of love that is not easily found. We spend so much time and energy trying to find love and so little time in learning how to maintain it.
Unlike the other types of love, pragma is the result of effort on both sides. It’s the love between people who’ve learned to make compromises, have demonstrated patience and tolerance to make the relationship work.
Love Catalyst: Etheric (Unconscious)
7. “Philautia” or Self Love
The Greeks understood that in order to care for others, we must first learn to care for ourselves. This form of self-love is not the unhealthy vanity and self-obsession that is focused on personal fame, gain and fortune as is the case with Narcissism.
Instead, philautia is self-love in its healthiest form. It shares the Buddhist philosophy of “self-compassion” which is the deep understanding that only once you have the strength to love yourself and feel comfortable in your own skin, will you be able to provide love to others. As Aristotle put it, “All friendly feelings for others are an extension of a man’s feelings for himself.”
You cannot share what you do not have. If you do not love yourself, you cannot love anyone else either. The only way to truly be happy is to find that unconditional love for yourself. Only once you learn to love and understand yourself, will you be ready to search for the spiritual freedom of the Self.
https://lonerwolf.com/different-types-of-love/
24 April 2018 04:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
João Mirage am meigolapsychia / megalopsychia :p
24 April 2018 03:36
Margus Meigo commented on João Mirage's link.
no way
24 April 2018 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on Raido Randoja's post.
Eks kestab ka kauem, kuid kahjuks kannatamatud ei adu arvutama kasulikust
24 April 2018 01:51
Margus Meigo commented on Raido Randoja's photo.
Sellised mitmed neist on
24 April 2018 01:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
once was peaking in to one rus gov server who's workers out of patriotism had named their nameservers as NKVD,
for antifa and natsi websites they had, in same server in past,
slighly confusing would be for some firsttimes to come across this :p
back on Estonia Unknown Soldier Statue riot that was pre-planned near year ahead just by looking newsservices hotel room reservations
sometimes seems they like want to be noticed as organizers, like with trump
for antifa and natsi websites they had, in same server in past,
slighly confusing would be for some firsttimes to come across this :p
back on Estonia Unknown Soldier Statue riot that was pre-planned near year ahead just by looking newsservices hotel room reservations
sometimes seems they like want to be noticed as organizers, like with trump
24 April 2018 01:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
John Turmel what about police and agency workers, and for inflatrators, for their protection mask needed perhaps?
24 April 2018 01:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
that people should not wear a masks in these situations
23 April 2018 22:57
Margus Meigo commented on John Turmel's post.
Do You think it is good ?
23 April 2018 22:56
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov sama räägitakse siinpool. Ja endalgi alati oli hea kogemus
23 April 2018 20:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
põhimure on, et ei osata hinnata nende skeemitajate haarde suurust...
sest alavääristatakse vastast mida arvatakse, et pole olemas,
on neid kes arvab, et inimesi peaks kasvatama nagu .. sama halvasti kui inimesed kasvatavad taimi ja loomi
ja on need kes arvavad, et inimestel aeg areneda loodud tasemele kus inglite üle "valitsema" peaksid, ehk aitama/juhendama/õigust mõistma oluliste detailide osas, mida need suurvõimsad paratamatult siin maal mööda pannud on..
juba aegadel..
// eh..google knows
http://bit.ly/Humas_angels (just for testing,any clicks..)
sest alavääristatakse vastast mida arvatakse, et pole olemas,
on neid kes arvab, et inimesi peaks kasvatama nagu .. sama halvasti kui inimesed kasvatavad taimi ja loomi
ja on need kes arvavad, et inimestel aeg areneda loodud tasemele kus inglite üle "valitsema" peaksid, ehk aitama/juhendama/õigust mõistma oluliste detailide osas, mida need suurvõimsad paratamatult siin maal mööda pannud on..
juba aegadel..
// eh..google knows
http://bit.ly/Humas_angels (just for testing,any clicks..)
23 April 2018 20:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Geelküünte, Küünelaki ja kõrvarõngaste kahjulikusest eip hakka veel rääkimagi isegi
Vaimsest ja füüsilisest, kuigi viimast vist peaks olema kerge arusaada... PEAKS... aga inimesed kes oma kehaarmastuses on väga nadid samalajal kui iseka enesearmastuse usku lootusetult proovivad ennast ja ümbritsevaid pöörata teenides internatisonaalseid südametuid plaane.. ( ala:
"kui ennast ei armasta sisi ei saa teisi armastada" filoosia mida samal ajal igast uksest ja aknast tuleb ja igast kanalistkus keegi selle peale satud, arvab ekslikult, et tal just see erianne ja tarkus oli selle vanasti juba lahtiselgitatud valearusaamani jõuda.. ...armastus on Pigem see, et teisi endast väärtuslikumana näed, alustuseks, ...mitte iseenda armastamine, mis suht võimatu, sest sõna ise tähendab, ARM ust tulev, mis on TEISTE , VÄLISE suunaline... oeh.. nii elementaarsed asjad )
Vaimsest ja füüsilisest, kuigi viimast vist peaks olema kerge arusaada... PEAKS... aga inimesed kes oma kehaarmastuses on väga nadid samalajal kui iseka enesearmastuse usku lootusetult proovivad ennast ja ümbritsevaid pöörata teenides internatisonaalseid südametuid plaane.. ( ala:
"kui ennast ei armasta sisi ei saa teisi armastada" filoosia mida samal ajal igast uksest ja aknast tuleb ja igast kanalistkus keegi selle peale satud, arvab ekslikult, et tal just see erianne ja tarkus oli selle vanasti juba lahtiselgitatud valearusaamani jõuda.. ...armastus on Pigem see, et teisi endast väärtuslikumana näed, alustuseks, ...mitte iseenda armastamine, mis suht võimatu, sest sõna ise tähendab, ARM ust tulev, mis on TEISTE , VÄLISE suunaline... oeh.. nii elementaarsed asjad )
23 April 2018 19:31
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Oled veel kellegilt sama lugu kuulnud+
23 April 2018 19:29
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
oi sa rsk.. aa nu eks see kindlasti kokkusattumus nad ütleksid, või enamus teadlased ütleks, enne kui poleteaduslikult eri vaakumites eri asutuste poolt tesititud ja tõestatud.. et muidu lihtsalt kuulujutt...
umbes nagu see, et firma inimlik suhtumine ja aura taandarenes mitupügalat üleminekuga,
olenemata starmanni viisnurga sarnasest nimest ja punasest värvist, oli neil väga inimliku auraga firma kogum
umbes nagu see, et firma inimlik suhtumine ja aura taandarenes mitupügalat üleminekuga,
olenemata starmanni viisnurga sarnasest nimest ja punasest värvist, oli neil väga inimliku auraga firma kogum
23 April 2018 19:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.yourtango.com/2014204548/sex-dating-brazilian-wax-what-guys-really-think-pubic-hair
https://jezebel.com/5884043/guys-share-their-thoughts-on-hair
// kunagiseks märkeks, jätkata seda reaalset uuringut ka, aasta aastast lükkan edasi, ehk jääb ajasse ruumi seda ligemale tuues,
https://jezebel.com/5884043/guys-share-their-thoughts-on-hair
// kunagiseks märkeks, jätkata seda reaalset uuringut ka, aasta aastast lükkan edasi, ehk jääb ajasse ruumi seda ligemale tuues,
https://www.yourtango.com/2014204548/sex-dating-brazilian-wax-what-guys-really-think-pubic-hair
23 April 2018 19:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nii elementaarseid naturaalseid lihtsaid asju , keegi oleks kunagi arvanud, et see võimatu, et targad inimesed selle linnainimeste totruse Rooma-greeka küüsi langeks.. aga näe, ajupesu tehnoloogia on võimas, ja kuna väär tunukatele karvad ei sobi... ja inimestele VÄGA sobib.. siis see karvade vastane agenda ka..
Igatahes:
Pubic hair removal has become extremely popular and has grown into a multi-million dollar business. In fact, a study of 25-40 year-olds in America found that 96% of females and 87% of males had either partially or completely removed pubic hair within the past month.
But shaving or waxing your hair down there is actually less healthy for you than keeping your pubic hair. Here are five ways that show you the power of pubic hair.
It’s More Sanitary
Pubic hair offers a natural barrier to keep things clean, to decrease contact with viruses and bacteria, and to protect the tender skin of the area from being abraded. Sure, now we wear clothes, but sometimes even clothes can irritate the skin there. Some clinicians are finding that freshly shaved pubic areas and genitals are also more vulnerable to herpes infections due to the microscopic wounds being exposed to viruses carried by mouth or genitals. It follows that there may be vulnerability to spread of other STIs as well.
It’s A Natural Lubricant
Pubic hair helps to control the moisture of the area by wicking it up and away from the skin. This decreases the chances of yeast infections and skin breakdown. Without it, you will notice that your sweat will have to be…
absorbed instead by your clothing. Rubbing of skin can irritate and hair helps to decrease this problem. It helps to protect your sensitive areas from redness caused by the skin rubbing. This could also provide a protection of possible irritation during intercourse. Pubic hair is like nature’s way of keeping things balanced.
It Regulates Your Body Temperature
Hair follicles help with sweating. There is a sebaceous gland on each hair follecule which releases oils onto the hair, which allows the oils to go up to the skins surface. When this oil evaporates it cools the skin because of its latent heat.
It Heightens Sensation
At the bottom of each little hair follicle, there is a nerve ending. When you brush across each hair, it sends a little sensation down the shaft to that nerve ending. These are different from other nerve endings that we have on our skin for pressure and temperature. All of these sensations are registered together in the brain, the result being the feeling of light touch. Pubic hair doesn’t keep you from feeling the skin underneath, which is stimulated with a firmer touch, so you can have both. Shaving completely, however, reduces your sensations to just the nerves on the surface of the skin and you miss out on a wider range of stimulation. Not to mention you can no longer enjoy when your partner might tug or even blow warm air across your bush.
Protection Against Genital Warts
If you shave your pubic hair, you are putting yourself at a higher risk of contracting genital warts. Although pubic hair doesn’t completely prevent it, it helps avoid skin on skin contact with someone who may already have it. Genital warts are warts that are located near or on the genital areas. In a female, that means on or near the vulva (the outside genital area), vagina, cervix, or anus. In a male, that means near or on the penis, scrotum, or anus. Warts appear as bumps or growths. They can be flat or raised, single or many, small or large. They tend to be whitish or flesh colored. They are not always easy to see with the naked eye, and many times a person with genital warts doesn’t know that they’re there.
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Tavameedias ka:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5500579/Why-pubic-hair-better-waxing.html
Igatahes:
Pubic hair removal has become extremely popular and has grown into a multi-million dollar business. In fact, a study of 25-40 year-olds in America found that 96% of females and 87% of males had either partially or completely removed pubic hair within the past month.
But shaving or waxing your hair down there is actually less healthy for you than keeping your pubic hair. Here are five ways that show you the power of pubic hair.
It’s More Sanitary
Pubic hair offers a natural barrier to keep things clean, to decrease contact with viruses and bacteria, and to protect the tender skin of the area from being abraded. Sure, now we wear clothes, but sometimes even clothes can irritate the skin there. Some clinicians are finding that freshly shaved pubic areas and genitals are also more vulnerable to herpes infections due to the microscopic wounds being exposed to viruses carried by mouth or genitals. It follows that there may be vulnerability to spread of other STIs as well.
It’s A Natural Lubricant
Pubic hair helps to control the moisture of the area by wicking it up and away from the skin. This decreases the chances of yeast infections and skin breakdown. Without it, you will notice that your sweat will have to be…
absorbed instead by your clothing. Rubbing of skin can irritate and hair helps to decrease this problem. It helps to protect your sensitive areas from redness caused by the skin rubbing. This could also provide a protection of possible irritation during intercourse. Pubic hair is like nature’s way of keeping things balanced.
It Regulates Your Body Temperature
Hair follicles help with sweating. There is a sebaceous gland on each hair follecule which releases oils onto the hair, which allows the oils to go up to the skins surface. When this oil evaporates it cools the skin because of its latent heat.
It Heightens Sensation
At the bottom of each little hair follicle, there is a nerve ending. When you brush across each hair, it sends a little sensation down the shaft to that nerve ending. These are different from other nerve endings that we have on our skin for pressure and temperature. All of these sensations are registered together in the brain, the result being the feeling of light touch. Pubic hair doesn’t keep you from feeling the skin underneath, which is stimulated with a firmer touch, so you can have both. Shaving completely, however, reduces your sensations to just the nerves on the surface of the skin and you miss out on a wider range of stimulation. Not to mention you can no longer enjoy when your partner might tug or even blow warm air across your bush.
Protection Against Genital Warts
If you shave your pubic hair, you are putting yourself at a higher risk of contracting genital warts. Although pubic hair doesn’t completely prevent it, it helps avoid skin on skin contact with someone who may already have it. Genital warts are warts that are located near or on the genital areas. In a female, that means on or near the vulva (the outside genital area), vagina, cervix, or anus. In a male, that means near or on the penis, scrotum, or anus. Warts appear as bumps or growths. They can be flat or raised, single or many, small or large. They tend to be whitish or flesh colored. They are not always easy to see with the naked eye, and many times a person with genital warts doesn’t know that they’re there.
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Tavameedias ka:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5500579/Why-pubic-hair-better-waxing.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5500579/Why-pubic-hair-better-waxing.html
23 April 2018 19:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Esimeste lehtede lihtsad lisaväited:
"Most women (even men) prefer that the area down there is clean without any hair, so shaving pubic or vaginal hair has become a common practice today. However, there is a reason why you have pubic hair. So probably it isn’t a great idea to shave it off for purely aesthetic reasons. Know if using hair removal creams is a safe option to get rid of pubic hair.
What’s the harm?
There aren’t any documented studies that can point whether shaving pubic hair is good for you. However, this practice has been there from the ancient times and it is believed that a clean vagina is one of the many factors that attracts the partner and appeals to the man [1]. But there is a downside to it. The sweat glands present in the pubic region secrete pheromones which to stimulate yours and your partner’s sexual desires. The hair present in the region primarily locks the odour and that’s why every woman has a unique odour that attracts her man. Lack of hair in the region would mean less pleasure as it fails to stimulate your sense of smell. And, stimulating your five senses during sex maximises pleasure [2].
Also, less pubic hair can make you susceptible to various kinds of bacterial, viral or fungal infections. In fact, it acts as a barrier to some sexually transmitted infections like genital herpes, warts, etc. When pubic hair is shaved, it leaves behind microscopic open wounds over the hair follicle which may lead to bacterial infection, scarring due to irritation and itching [3]"
https://blackdoctor.org/514518/health-benefits-of-pubic-hair/
.:.
https://www.glamour.com/story/benefits-of-having-pubic-hair
.:.
http://www.thehealthsite.com/diseases-conditions/why-shaving-your-vagina-or-pubic-hair-is-not-a-good-idea-d1215/
.:.
“Now, in 2016 American women consider grooming their vagina as part of their monthly beauty prep along with their mani-pedi, eyebrow tweezing, lip, leg and underarm waxing, and brow and eyelash tinting.”
But still, it begs the question: Does having hair down there make any difference other than the visual aesthetics? Is it merely decorative? Or are there benefits to your health? We spoke to a virtual panel of ob-gyns to dissect the pros (and possible cons) of rocking pubic hair.
According to board-certified ob-gyn Jacqueline M. Walters, M.D., it does in fact have a purpose. “It provides a cushion against friction that can cause skin abrasion and injury; protection from bacteria and other unwanted pathogens, and is the visible result that long-awaited adolescence hormones have kicked in,” she explains. “It certainly is nothing to be ashamed of or embarrassed about.”
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In fact, there are a few sensual benefits, as well. “The purpose of pubic hair is likely twofold,” explains Alyssa Dweck, M.D., a gynecologist in Westchester County, N.Y., and assistant clinical professor at Mount Sinai Hospital. “It can play a role in regulating temperature but more importantly, it is thought to trap pheromone scent from our natural perspiration, for sexual and partner attractiveness—who knew?”
Other benefits? “Suspected theories, some medical and some not, include that pubic hair prevents dirt and other floating germs from entering the vagina, it keeps our genitals warm, and it’s the perfect cushion during sex, bicycling, and other forms of exercise that put pressure on your vagina,” shares Dr. Ross.
If you're still on the fence about continuing your waxing regimen, consider this: There is no medical downside to letting it all hang out. The pros of letting your pubes grow without any grooming attention could mean you have little to no risk of ingrown hairs or skin irritation commonly associated with waxing, shaving, and other hair removal methods.
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"Most women (even men) prefer that the area down there is clean without any hair, so shaving pubic or vaginal hair has become a common practice today. However, there is a reason why you have pubic hair. So probably it isn’t a great idea to shave it off for purely aesthetic reasons. Know if using hair removal creams is a safe option to get rid of pubic hair.
What’s the harm?
There aren’t any documented studies that can point whether shaving pubic hair is good for you. However, this practice has been there from the ancient times and it is believed that a clean vagina is one of the many factors that attracts the partner and appeals to the man [1]. But there is a downside to it. The sweat glands present in the pubic region secrete pheromones which to stimulate yours and your partner’s sexual desires. The hair present in the region primarily locks the odour and that’s why every woman has a unique odour that attracts her man. Lack of hair in the region would mean less pleasure as it fails to stimulate your sense of smell. And, stimulating your five senses during sex maximises pleasure [2].
Also, less pubic hair can make you susceptible to various kinds of bacterial, viral or fungal infections. In fact, it acts as a barrier to some sexually transmitted infections like genital herpes, warts, etc. When pubic hair is shaved, it leaves behind microscopic open wounds over the hair follicle which may lead to bacterial infection, scarring due to irritation and itching [3]"
https://blackdoctor.org/514518/health-benefits-of-pubic-hair/
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https://www.glamour.com/story/benefits-of-having-pubic-hair
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http://www.thehealthsite.com/diseases-conditions/why-shaving-your-vagina-or-pubic-hair-is-not-a-good-idea-d1215/
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“Now, in 2016 American women consider grooming their vagina as part of their monthly beauty prep along with their mani-pedi, eyebrow tweezing, lip, leg and underarm waxing, and brow and eyelash tinting.”
But still, it begs the question: Does having hair down there make any difference other than the visual aesthetics? Is it merely decorative? Or are there benefits to your health? We spoke to a virtual panel of ob-gyns to dissect the pros (and possible cons) of rocking pubic hair.
According to board-certified ob-gyn Jacqueline M. Walters, M.D., it does in fact have a purpose. “It provides a cushion against friction that can cause skin abrasion and injury; protection from bacteria and other unwanted pathogens, and is the visible result that long-awaited adolescence hormones have kicked in,” she explains. “It certainly is nothing to be ashamed of or embarrassed about.”
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In fact, there are a few sensual benefits, as well. “The purpose of pubic hair is likely twofold,” explains Alyssa Dweck, M.D., a gynecologist in Westchester County, N.Y., and assistant clinical professor at Mount Sinai Hospital. “It can play a role in regulating temperature but more importantly, it is thought to trap pheromone scent from our natural perspiration, for sexual and partner attractiveness—who knew?”
Other benefits? “Suspected theories, some medical and some not, include that pubic hair prevents dirt and other floating germs from entering the vagina, it keeps our genitals warm, and it’s the perfect cushion during sex, bicycling, and other forms of exercise that put pressure on your vagina,” shares Dr. Ross.
If you're still on the fence about continuing your waxing regimen, consider this: There is no medical downside to letting it all hang out. The pros of letting your pubes grow without any grooming attention could mean you have little to no risk of ingrown hairs or skin irritation commonly associated with waxing, shaving, and other hair removal methods.
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https://blackdoctor.org/514518/health-benefits-of-pubic-hair/
23 April 2018 19:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lisaks muidugi need vanad teemad ka, tundub, et nii naturaalsed inimesed nagu Eestlased hakkavad unustama reaalsust ja vaja ülekorrata:
Hakka kohe seitsmendast punktist pihta, kui maaga ühenduses olemine liialt esoteeriline tundub ja kui tundelisuse unustanud, kui õige ja meeldiv see kõik on:
https://www.littlethings.com/pubic-hair-health-benefits/
Hakka kohe seitsmendast punktist pihta, kui maaga ühenduses olemine liialt esoteeriline tundub ja kui tundelisuse unustanud, kui õige ja meeldiv see kõik on:
https://www.littlethings.com/pubic-hair-health-benefits/
https://www.littlethings.com/pubic-hair-health-benefits/
23 April 2018 18:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Need ikka klassikalised vennad ka kes videosse alla pandud,
raske mitte muiata nii mitmes astmes,
real talk:
"While I have nothing against heart-centeredness and eye-gazing, a man who prioritizes “higher” virtues ends up disconnecting himself from his lower three chakras and committing the equivalent of energetic castration.
Imagine a car with no engine or gas. No matter how “loving,” “nice” and “sweet” it looks on the outside, without the raw material to fuel it, the car won’t run.
However “spiritual guys,” tend to demonize and negate their own “fuel.” Then they use the name of tantra as a tool to bypass the “nasty” work of being human and try to get laid by pretending that their cocks have magical, healing “spiritual” powers.
raske mitte muiata nii mitmes astmes,
real talk:
"While I have nothing against heart-centeredness and eye-gazing, a man who prioritizes “higher” virtues ends up disconnecting himself from his lower three chakras and committing the equivalent of energetic castration.
Imagine a car with no engine or gas. No matter how “loving,” “nice” and “sweet” it looks on the outside, without the raw material to fuel it, the car won’t run.
However “spiritual guys,” tend to demonize and negate their own “fuel.” Then they use the name of tantra as a tool to bypass the “nasty” work of being human and try to get laid by pretending that their cocks have magical, healing “spiritual” powers.
23 April 2018 18:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
hahaha, see muidugi on klassika:
https://mytinysecrets.com/why-i-dont-fuck-spiritual-guys/
(Sellelt Nais toimetajalt: http://www.theorgasmiclife.com/)
"I like fucking all kinds of people. But when it comes to “spiritual guys,” I just can’t fuck ‘em. Or, more precisely, they can’t fuck me.
It’s not that I don’t fuck spiritual guys from lack of wanting. I don’t fuck spiritual guys because they don’t know how and aren’t willing to be fucked themselves.
How To Recognize A “Spiritual Guy”
Let’s not confuse a “spiritual guy” with a mature, fully integrated spiritual man; so I’ll define what I mean by “spiritual guy.”
It has little to do with whether or not he believes in God and a lot more to do with what he thinks about his own humanity. Many “spiritual guys” come with a belief that they are “better than” their physical selves and should “rise above” their baser instincts.
He’s all about being “heart-centered” and having “slow, tantric sex.” He walks around with a glassy stare, never gets angry, talks in a creepy whisper and greets every hot woman he meets with the ubiquitous “spiritual guy” pick-up line, “Namaste.”
spiritualguys
He professes that money is evil, believes that commitment robs him of his enlightenment and prefers eye-gazing over hair-pulling. He is a participant in a kind of “spiritual sexism” that we often see in “conscious communities,” i.e. reaching for the ethereal stillness (masculine) while rejecting the material chaos (feminine).
While I have nothing against heart-centeredness and eye-gazing, a man who prioritizes “higher” virtues ends up disconnecting himself from his lower three chakras and committing the equivalent of energetic castration.
Imagine a car with no engine or gas. No matter how “loving,” “nice” and “sweet” it looks on the outside, without the raw material to fuel it, the car won’t run.
However “spiritual guys,” tend to demonize and negate their own “fuel.” Then they use the name of tantra as a tool to bypass the “nasty” work of being human and try to get laid by pretending that their cocks have magical, healing “spiritual” powers.
Traditional tantra teachings believe that everything is fuel for awakening. Looking at tantra from an etymological perspective, tan means expansion and tra means liberation. (UPDATE: A Sanskrit scholar has informed me that tra is actually closer to the word “means;” so tantra is literally “a means of expansion”).
So rather than excluding and rejecting the coarser parts of ourselves, we expand and liberate ourselves through alchemy, converting megalomania (third chakra), lust (second chakra) and anger (first chakra) into purpose, desire and power, respectively.
How To Become A “Real” Man
spiritual4
He must fall on the ground in love with surrender. He must expose and accept every part of himself while in connection with his partner. Only then can he hold a woman in total presence and approval of everything she throws at him. The combination of compassion and animal-power is what pins a woman down and penetrates her to her aching core.
To be fair, a more “worldly” man in our society, i.e. one who is open in the lower chakras and closed in the upper, cannot truly fuck either. His lack of emotional connection, unwillingness to speak vulnerably and dependency on linear scripts of relating prevent him from deeply feeling a woman and earning her trust. His material merits may win him points in the immediate “pick-up” game, but he will lose out in the long-term.
Not to say that every sexual encounter needs to be a step towards a long-term relationship.
This is where we women often to lie about their own desire, using the old excuse “I’m waiting for “the one” as a shield against feeling the magnitude of animal hunger that lives within us.
Want A Real Woman? Show Up With Your Real Soul-Fucked Self
Michael Howard
The feminine fable about “the one” is what makes men more apt to don the “spiritual guy” mask. He thinks if he acts humble and nice and safe and “conscious,” he can win the prize (her pussy). But ultimately he is cheating himself (and women) of an opportunity for awakening.
By acknowledging our shame, rage, greed, lust, victimhood, hatred and addictions, we get to know and love the human parts of ourselves and learn to work with these pieces as allies, rather than having these shadow bits secretly run the show and hijack our power.
When we courageously allow our soul-fucked selves to show up sexually, it invites the people we love to expose their blessed and wounded parts and sets the stage for trust, connection and intimacy. Then we come to know the true essence of tantra: that there really is no separation and that everything – divinity, humanity, ordinary, mystery, light, dark, earth, heaven – is a vital and necessary ingredient on the spiritual path.
https://mytinysecrets.com/why-i-dont-fuck-spiritual-guys/
(Sellelt Nais toimetajalt: http://www.theorgasmiclife.com/)
"I like fucking all kinds of people. But when it comes to “spiritual guys,” I just can’t fuck ‘em. Or, more precisely, they can’t fuck me.
It’s not that I don’t fuck spiritual guys from lack of wanting. I don’t fuck spiritual guys because they don’t know how and aren’t willing to be fucked themselves.
How To Recognize A “Spiritual Guy”
Let’s not confuse a “spiritual guy” with a mature, fully integrated spiritual man; so I’ll define what I mean by “spiritual guy.”
It has little to do with whether or not he believes in God and a lot more to do with what he thinks about his own humanity. Many “spiritual guys” come with a belief that they are “better than” their physical selves and should “rise above” their baser instincts.
He’s all about being “heart-centered” and having “slow, tantric sex.” He walks around with a glassy stare, never gets angry, talks in a creepy whisper and greets every hot woman he meets with the ubiquitous “spiritual guy” pick-up line, “Namaste.”
spiritualguys
He professes that money is evil, believes that commitment robs him of his enlightenment and prefers eye-gazing over hair-pulling. He is a participant in a kind of “spiritual sexism” that we often see in “conscious communities,” i.e. reaching for the ethereal stillness (masculine) while rejecting the material chaos (feminine).
While I have nothing against heart-centeredness and eye-gazing, a man who prioritizes “higher” virtues ends up disconnecting himself from his lower three chakras and committing the equivalent of energetic castration.
Imagine a car with no engine or gas. No matter how “loving,” “nice” and “sweet” it looks on the outside, without the raw material to fuel it, the car won’t run.
However “spiritual guys,” tend to demonize and negate their own “fuel.” Then they use the name of tantra as a tool to bypass the “nasty” work of being human and try to get laid by pretending that their cocks have magical, healing “spiritual” powers.
Traditional tantra teachings believe that everything is fuel for awakening. Looking at tantra from an etymological perspective, tan means expansion and tra means liberation. (UPDATE: A Sanskrit scholar has informed me that tra is actually closer to the word “means;” so tantra is literally “a means of expansion”).
So rather than excluding and rejecting the coarser parts of ourselves, we expand and liberate ourselves through alchemy, converting megalomania (third chakra), lust (second chakra) and anger (first chakra) into purpose, desire and power, respectively.
How To Become A “Real” Man
spiritual4
He must fall on the ground in love with surrender. He must expose and accept every part of himself while in connection with his partner. Only then can he hold a woman in total presence and approval of everything she throws at him. The combination of compassion and animal-power is what pins a woman down and penetrates her to her aching core.
To be fair, a more “worldly” man in our society, i.e. one who is open in the lower chakras and closed in the upper, cannot truly fuck either. His lack of emotional connection, unwillingness to speak vulnerably and dependency on linear scripts of relating prevent him from deeply feeling a woman and earning her trust. His material merits may win him points in the immediate “pick-up” game, but he will lose out in the long-term.
Not to say that every sexual encounter needs to be a step towards a long-term relationship.
This is where we women often to lie about their own desire, using the old excuse “I’m waiting for “the one” as a shield against feeling the magnitude of animal hunger that lives within us.
Want A Real Woman? Show Up With Your Real Soul-Fucked Self
Michael Howard
The feminine fable about “the one” is what makes men more apt to don the “spiritual guy” mask. He thinks if he acts humble and nice and safe and “conscious,” he can win the prize (her pussy). But ultimately he is cheating himself (and women) of an opportunity for awakening.
By acknowledging our shame, rage, greed, lust, victimhood, hatred and addictions, we get to know and love the human parts of ourselves and learn to work with these pieces as allies, rather than having these shadow bits secretly run the show and hijack our power.
When we courageously allow our soul-fucked selves to show up sexually, it invites the people we love to expose their blessed and wounded parts and sets the stage for trust, connection and intimacy. Then we come to know the true essence of tantra: that there really is no separation and that everything – divinity, humanity, ordinary, mystery, light, dark, earth, heaven – is a vital and necessary ingredient on the spiritual path.
https://mytinysecrets.com/why-i-dont-fuck-spiritual-guys/
23 April 2018 18:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
“Hair is the physical manifestation of our thoughts and an extension of ourselves.“
https://mytinysecrets.com/5-ancient-secrets-to-seductive-shiny-incredibly-beautiful-hair/
https://mytinysecrets.com/top-10-traits-of-a-fully-empowered-woman/
https://mytinysecrets.com/the-ancient-mysterious-art-of-pussy-worship/
https://mytinysecrets.com/5-ancient-secrets-to-seductive-shiny-incredibly-beautiful-hair/
https://mytinysecrets.com/top-10-traits-of-a-fully-empowered-woman/
https://mytinysecrets.com/the-ancient-mysterious-art-of-pussy-worship/
https://mytinysecrets.com/5-ancient-secrets-to-seductive-shiny-incredibly-beautiful-hair/
23 April 2018 18:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"LAPSE SUHET VANEMAGA EI TOHIKS RIKKUDA TÄISKASVANUTE EGOMÄNGUD. "Tänapäeval lähevad lahku umbes pooled paarid. Märkimisväärsel osal neist unub see ülalkirjeldatud eluline tõde isikliku valu vaevas või pead segi ajavate tunnete pöörises. Kunagi varem pole elu olnud nii selgelt isikukeskne, soodustades isikliku õnne otsimist. Kohustused ja ühiskondlik norm ei hoia enam paarilisi koos nii tugevalt kui varem. Isiklik areng ja õnn on ju praeguse aja inimõigus... Jah, paljud löövad oma suhtele kindlasti liiga kergelt käega," lausub pereterapeut Katrin Saali Saul."
http://alkeemia.delfi.ee/suhted/armastus/kargpere-lapse-energeetilisi-sidemeid-bioloogiliste-vanematega-ei-tohiks-kunagi-taiskasvanute-egomangude-parast-ohverdada?id=77568572
https://www.facebook.com/alkeemia.ee/posts/1643469098997314
http://alkeemia.delfi.ee/suhted/armastus/kargpere-lapse-energeetilisi-sidemeid-bioloogiliste-vanematega-ei-tohiks-kunagi-taiskasvanute-egomangude-parast-ohverdada?id=77568572
https://www.facebook.com/alkeemia.ee/posts/1643469098997314
http://alkeemia.delfi.ee/suhted/armastus/kargpere-lapse-energeetilisi-sidemeid-bioloogiliste-vanematega-ei-tohiks-kunagi-taiskasvanute-egomangude-parast-ohverdada?id=77568572
23 April 2018 18:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
“Our hair fashions might be just a trend, but if we investigate, we may find that we have been depriving ourselves of one of the most valuable sources of energy for human vitality.” -Yogi Bhajan
“Initially, cutting hair was something that conquerors did to control and enslave the people of the land. They did this because they knew that it would weaken the people and lessen their sensitivity to subtle information.”
“As an extension of the nervous system, the hair can be seen as nerves on the outside, creating the ability to sense and transmit the vibrations of people, plants, animals, and more.”
“Do you know the Bible story of Sampson and Delilah? When Sampson’s hair was cut, he lost all his strength and was defeated. This is because the Chi that is gathered is stored and used in the body for all the vital functions.”
“In Japanese traditions, hair is considered to contain the life essence and is a repository of fertility. It is believed that long hair is more sexually charged and potent. In Taoist traditions, it is said that for men, excessive emissions will lead to hair loss and premature aging.”
https://mytinysecrets.com/the-magical-powers-of-your-hair/
https://mytinysecrets.com/5-ancient-secrets-to-seductive-shiny-incredibly-beautiful-hair/
“Initially, cutting hair was something that conquerors did to control and enslave the people of the land. They did this because they knew that it would weaken the people and lessen their sensitivity to subtle information.”
“As an extension of the nervous system, the hair can be seen as nerves on the outside, creating the ability to sense and transmit the vibrations of people, plants, animals, and more.”
“Do you know the Bible story of Sampson and Delilah? When Sampson’s hair was cut, he lost all his strength and was defeated. This is because the Chi that is gathered is stored and used in the body for all the vital functions.”
“In Japanese traditions, hair is considered to contain the life essence and is a repository of fertility. It is believed that long hair is more sexually charged and potent. In Taoist traditions, it is said that for men, excessive emissions will lead to hair loss and premature aging.”
https://mytinysecrets.com/the-magical-powers-of-your-hair/
https://mytinysecrets.com/5-ancient-secrets-to-seductive-shiny-incredibly-beautiful-hair/
https://mytinysecrets.com/the-magical-powers-of-your-hair/
23 April 2018 18:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muidugi selle ruuteri osas eip tea, kas inimestele mõju ka on aga taimede struktuur laboritingimustes pidi muutunud olema ...
ei tea mis uue generatsiooni taimed sellest kasvavad, ehk eriti inimtargad.
https://www.electricsense.com/12399/5g-radiation-dangers/
Samal ajal aga pannakse rõhku koolitüdrukute testi naeruvääristamisele (test mida päris lihtne järgiteha)
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cress-wifi-experiment/
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They didn't even specify what frequency they were broadcasting on (2.4 GHz or 5 GHz). Frequency is what matters here, not "WiFi." They also didn't specify how much network activity, if any, they were pushing through it.
The test needs to be redone with six discreet greenhouses:
1. 2.4 GHz router with 2.4 GHz laptop streaming data constantly.
2. 2.4 GHz router with 2.4 GHz laptop idling.
3. 5 GHz router with 5 GHz laptop streaming data constantly.
4. 5 GHz router with 5 GHz laptop idling.
5. A greenhouse that has magnetic shielding to block 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz signals.
6. A greenhouse that has no shielding whatsoever.
Because of #5, all greenhouses need to be artificially lit. Obviously that light should mimic sunlight hours.
One should be able to draw precise conclusions from the results. It would be awesome if it proves 5 GHz is safer...at least for plants. FCC would probably be inclined to discontinue 2.4 GHz (although that would suck if you needed the range).
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Hiljem alles avastavad omakorda, et loeb ka see, MILLIST infot wifist läbi lastakse...
Ka seda vaja 3-4 sorti:
#Paha info miinus porr
#paha info, porr, ja negatiivsed sõnumid
#Suvaline random inf ja kõik segamini
#heainfo, heasoovlikud sõnumid ja pildid
Kuid küll need asjad tehtud saab,
saab selge olema,
caja hoida veel sedasi et alustuseks tuleb eraldada test kaheks
üks samalajal võetud pesast seemned maximum halvas koos mobiilide ning eri ruuteritega kaugemal kui 2 meetrit (et seadme ligidal olevat soojust vms ei saaks süüdistada)
tavaline keskonna wifi kuhu ulatuvad tänava tava signaalid
ja mitte kinniine laboriruum,vaid leida kiirelt metsaligidal kuskil looduses koht kuhu signaalid enamus ei ulatu...
ning testida korraga 3-4 erineva taime grupiga
ning nende taimede järglastega,
kiire arenguga taimed ja pika arenguga taimed.
ja siis, et kobiseda ei saaks, need tingimused panna veel vajalikku teaduse formaati, et ei saaks norida.
Kuigi, need tingimused iseenesest on juba piisavad, hoidmaks ära kokkusattuvaid tingimusi, kui 4 eri taimel on sarnased väärmõjud kõvasti rohkem ühes keskonnas kui teises...
alusmuld muidugi peaks sama olema,
kanepikasutajate ja seente meeste jaoks nende taimedega ka peaks veel tegema... nägemaks kas need taimed on muuutnud olemuselt
ei tea mis uue generatsiooni taimed sellest kasvavad, ehk eriti inimtargad.
https://www.electricsense.com/12399/5g-radiation-dangers/
Samal ajal aga pannakse rõhku koolitüdrukute testi naeruvääristamisele (test mida päris lihtne järgiteha)
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cress-wifi-experiment/
_______
They didn't even specify what frequency they were broadcasting on (2.4 GHz or 5 GHz). Frequency is what matters here, not "WiFi." They also didn't specify how much network activity, if any, they were pushing through it.
The test needs to be redone with six discreet greenhouses:
1. 2.4 GHz router with 2.4 GHz laptop streaming data constantly.
2. 2.4 GHz router with 2.4 GHz laptop idling.
3. 5 GHz router with 5 GHz laptop streaming data constantly.
4. 5 GHz router with 5 GHz laptop idling.
5. A greenhouse that has magnetic shielding to block 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz signals.
6. A greenhouse that has no shielding whatsoever.
Because of #5, all greenhouses need to be artificially lit. Obviously that light should mimic sunlight hours.
One should be able to draw precise conclusions from the results. It would be awesome if it proves 5 GHz is safer...at least for plants. FCC would probably be inclined to discontinue 2.4 GHz (although that would suck if you needed the range).
------
Hiljem alles avastavad omakorda, et loeb ka see, MILLIST infot wifist läbi lastakse...
Ka seda vaja 3-4 sorti:
#Paha info miinus porr
#paha info, porr, ja negatiivsed sõnumid
#Suvaline random inf ja kõik segamini
#heainfo, heasoovlikud sõnumid ja pildid
Kuid küll need asjad tehtud saab,
saab selge olema,
caja hoida veel sedasi et alustuseks tuleb eraldada test kaheks
üks samalajal võetud pesast seemned maximum halvas koos mobiilide ning eri ruuteritega kaugemal kui 2 meetrit (et seadme ligidal olevat soojust vms ei saaks süüdistada)
tavaline keskonna wifi kuhu ulatuvad tänava tava signaalid
ja mitte kinniine laboriruum,vaid leida kiirelt metsaligidal kuskil looduses koht kuhu signaalid enamus ei ulatu...
ning testida korraga 3-4 erineva taime grupiga
ning nende taimede järglastega,
kiire arenguga taimed ja pika arenguga taimed.
ja siis, et kobiseda ei saaks, need tingimused panna veel vajalikku teaduse formaati, et ei saaks norida.
Kuigi, need tingimused iseenesest on juba piisavad, hoidmaks ära kokkusattuvaid tingimusi, kui 4 eri taimel on sarnased väärmõjud kõvasti rohkem ühes keskonnas kui teises...
alusmuld muidugi peaks sama olema,
kanepikasutajate ja seente meeste jaoks nende taimedega ka peaks veel tegema... nägemaks kas need taimed on muuutnud olemuselt
https://www.electricsense.com/12399/5g-radiation-dangers/
23 April 2018 17:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Any dates?
Keegi daam kohtingule soovib ?
Keegi daam kohtingule soovib ?
23 April 2018 17:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
blondeerige ja mukkige ennast jah, peske hambaid 3x päevas ajupehmendavate mürkidega, magage oma ipodidega 5g ruuteri otsas, ja raseerige kõik naiseliku tunnuse karvad maha mis maajõududega ühedust hoiavad (juukseid poel vaja raseerida, blondeerides need oma Tegeliku elujõu niigi kaotanud, samahästi võiks maha ajada), siis jooge ennast veel suvaliste vampiiridega koos purju, hoitke metsast ja psüh. seentest ning hingerohtudest eemal, võtke hunnik liberaalseid ja internatsionaalide ajupesu idelooogiaid koos suvaliste nõia ja esoteerika laagritega avali sui vastu kes astraal orgassme keset ööd sissetulles tegema saavad hakata ning siis
jahuge selliste asjade üle nagu palganumbrid ning tuntke rõõmu ajutise kontrolli üle, mis MEESTE, homomeeste, ja tulnukate kui täpne olla, nende poolt antud, selliselt, et päitsed peas... selles piires mis ütlevad... siis ku iajad jalad nii laiali ja sääl ja kellele kus vaja, vaimselt ja füüsiliselt.
oi kus siis on ikka vabadust ja naiselikku jõudu eks,
pole vist suuremosa teist kõrvenõgese teed joonud ega näppu mulda pannud
osad eesrindlikud veel poisipeaga panevad ülikonna ka selga, need veel omas mastaabis tegelased, kes pool anarhistlikult vaat vahest, veel isegi edumeelsemad oma tgegemistes kui mullis elavad barbid.. nad väljendunud oma alistumist avalikult juuuste mahaajamisega vähemasti...
aargh
jahuge selliste asjade üle nagu palganumbrid ning tuntke rõõmu ajutise kontrolli üle, mis MEESTE, homomeeste, ja tulnukate kui täpne olla, nende poolt antud, selliselt, et päitsed peas... selles piires mis ütlevad... siis ku iajad jalad nii laiali ja sääl ja kellele kus vaja, vaimselt ja füüsiliselt.
oi kus siis on ikka vabadust ja naiselikku jõudu eks,
pole vist suuremosa teist kõrvenõgese teed joonud ega näppu mulda pannud
osad eesrindlikud veel poisipeaga panevad ülikonna ka selga, need veel omas mastaabis tegelased, kes pool anarhistlikult vaat vahest, veel isegi edumeelsemad oma tgegemistes kui mullis elavad barbid.. nad väljendunud oma alistumist avalikult juuuste mahaajamisega vähemasti...
aargh
23 April 2018 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on Sotsiaaldemokraatlikud Meemid's photo.
On sellel lehel üldse jevgeniga miskit pistmist ka ?
Miks ta pilt siin on ja mis selle mõte?
Miks ta pilt siin on ja mis selle mõte?
23 April 2018 16:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Solvang on see, et sellistele antakse üldse meediaruumI:
http://joel-friedrich-steinfeldt.blogspot.com
praeguseaja uudis kus ta kurtnud oli, et tema laulukest keegi näpsanud....arusaamata, et loovust laulude osas, mis vanasti tehtud... EI saa varastada vaid ainult head teeb kui seda laiendad ja paljudad...
temasugused pigem varastasid kellegilt selle viisi ja mõrvasid omaniku ja matsid maha, sest sellisel endal loovust ei saa olla eriti, ilmselge ,eks,
ja siis nüüd jääle see "inimene" meedias nutulaulmas, kuidas talle liiga tehakse
http://joel-friedrich-steinfeldt.blogspot.com
praeguseaja uudis kus ta kurtnud oli, et tema laulukest keegi näpsanud....arusaamata, et loovust laulude osas, mis vanasti tehtud... EI saa varastada vaid ainult head teeb kui seda laiendad ja paljudad...
temasugused pigem varastasid kellegilt selle viisi ja mõrvasid omaniku ja matsid maha, sest sellisel endal loovust ei saa olla eriti, ilmselge ,eks,
ja siis nüüd jääle see "inimene" meedias nutulaulmas, kuidas talle liiga tehakse
http://joel-friedrich-steinfeldt.blogspot.com/
23 April 2018 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
selleks tüdruk võtta, et pihku ei peaks panema on ka suts low standard,
suts suurem eesmärk ja arusaam ikka peaks olema kui keebuska
suts suurem eesmärk ja arusaam ikka peaks olema kui keebuska
23 April 2018 15:32
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
Ja nad mitte vähe ei teinud peale säälkandis ennemuiste kui neil mõistust veel oli... kuid siis hakati liialt igast maagia ja rituaalidega geniitama ja unustati loodus, vastutasuks said edaspidi liiva närida
23 April 2018 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
irww.. kusuures ongi olemas nii tillistunud loogikaga inimesi, kes usuvad, et hingehävitus põhiliste relvadega: alko, suits & viha
saab kuidagi hinge ravida :D xD
Selleks ikka seened loodud jms
saab kuidagi hinge ravida :D xD
Selleks ikka seened loodud jms
23 April 2018 15:29
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's video.
Norm vend,
veab muidugi, et virtuaal õigused kehtivad, oleks mingi Desperaado vend (või armsa veneaja mendid) siis oleks kohe sinna oma kööki uppi löödud alustuseks, siis uuritud, et kas probleemi ka on,
ja see sellel juhul kui mõistlikud vennad oleks olnud ja purotiino ülesse poleks liialt aetud ja oma kohta maapeal arusaadud.
Kuid muidugi, eks tal ka, õigus ärrituda, kuid olgu kaine
veab muidugi, et virtuaal õigused kehtivad, oleks mingi Desperaado vend (või armsa veneaja mendid) siis oleks kohe sinna oma kööki uppi löödud alustuseks, siis uuritud, et kas probleemi ka on,
ja see sellel juhul kui mõistlikud vennad oleks olnud ja purotiino ülesse poleks liialt aetud ja oma kohta maapeal arusaadud.
Kuid muidugi, eks tal ka, õigus ärrituda, kuid olgu kaine
23 April 2018 15:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kõvem tegelane kui Jessus, ärkas neli korda ülesse legendi kohaselt
"Al-Tha`labi ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Tha%60labi ) states that he was from Palestine and lived in the times of some disciples of Jesus. He was killed many times by the king of Mosul, and resurrected each time. When he tried to starve him, he touched a piece of dry wood brought by a woman and turned it green, with varieties of fruits and vegetables growing from it. After his fourth death, the city was burnt along with him. Ibn al-Athir's account of one of his deaths is parallel to the crucifixion of Jesus, stating, "When he died, God sent stormy winds and thunder and lightning and dark clouds, so that darkness fell between heaven and earth, and people were in great wonderment..." The account adds that the darkness was lifted after his resurrection"
" Muslim scholars had tried to find a historical connection of the saint due to his popularity.[31] According to Muslim legend, he was martyred under the rule of Diocletian and was killed three times but resurrected every time. The legend is more developed in the Persian version of al-Tabari wherein he resurrects the dead, makes trees sprout and pillars bear flowers. After one of his deaths, the world is covered by darkness and is lifted only when he is resurrected. He is able to convert the queen but she is put to death. He then prays to God to allow him to die which is granted "
" George (Arabic: جرجس, Jiriyas or Girgus) is included in some Muslim texts as a prophetic figure. The Islamic sources state that he lived among a group of believers who were in direct contact with last apostles of Jesus. He is described as a rich merchant who opposed erection of Apollo's statue by Mosul's king Dadan. After confronting the king, George was tortured many times to no effect, was imprisoned and was aided by the angels. Eventually, he exposed that the idols were possessed by Satan, but was martyred when the city was destroyed by God in a rain of fire "
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" In The Golden Legend, by 13th-century Archbishop of Genoa Jacobus de Voragine, George's death is at the hands of Dacian, and about the year 287.[15]
It has been established that Saint George the Martyr and the Arian Bishop George of Alexandria were not identical; furthermore that Bishop George was slain by Gentile Greeks for exacting onerous taxes, especially inheritance taxes. And that Saint George in all likelihood was martyred before the year 290. [16] Although the Diocletianic Persecution of 303, associated with military saints because the persecution was aimed at Christians among the professional soldiers of the Roman army, is of undisputed historicity, the identity of Saint George as a historical individual had not been ascertained as of Edmund Spenser's day,[17][18] Herbert Thurston in the saint's entry in the early 20th century Catholic Encyclopedia takes the position that there are no grounds for doubting the historical existence of Saint George, but that, as usual with saints of this early period, the legend of the dragon cannot be treated as historical.[19]
Saint George in the Acta Sanctorum, as collected in late 1600s and early 1700s. The Latin title De S Georgio Megalo-Martyre; Lyddae seu Diospoli in Palaestina" translates as "St. George Great-Martyr; [from] Lydda or Diospolis, in Palestine.
The earliest text preserving fragments of George's narrative is in a Greek hagiography identified by Hippolyte Delehaye of the scholarly Bollandists to be a palimpsest of the fifth century.[20] The compiler of this Acta Sancti Georgii, according to Hippolyte Delehaye, "confused the martyr with his namesake, the celebrated George of Cappadocia, the Arian intruder into the see of Alexandria and enemy of St. Athanasius". An earlier work by Eusebius, Church history, written in the 4th century, contributed to the legend but did not name George or provide significant detai "
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_George
"Al-Tha`labi ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Tha%60labi ) states that he was from Palestine and lived in the times of some disciples of Jesus. He was killed many times by the king of Mosul, and resurrected each time. When he tried to starve him, he touched a piece of dry wood brought by a woman and turned it green, with varieties of fruits and vegetables growing from it. After his fourth death, the city was burnt along with him. Ibn al-Athir's account of one of his deaths is parallel to the crucifixion of Jesus, stating, "When he died, God sent stormy winds and thunder and lightning and dark clouds, so that darkness fell between heaven and earth, and people were in great wonderment..." The account adds that the darkness was lifted after his resurrection"
" Muslim scholars had tried to find a historical connection of the saint due to his popularity.[31] According to Muslim legend, he was martyred under the rule of Diocletian and was killed three times but resurrected every time. The legend is more developed in the Persian version of al-Tabari wherein he resurrects the dead, makes trees sprout and pillars bear flowers. After one of his deaths, the world is covered by darkness and is lifted only when he is resurrected. He is able to convert the queen but she is put to death. He then prays to God to allow him to die which is granted "
" George (Arabic: جرجس, Jiriyas or Girgus) is included in some Muslim texts as a prophetic figure. The Islamic sources state that he lived among a group of believers who were in direct contact with last apostles of Jesus. He is described as a rich merchant who opposed erection of Apollo's statue by Mosul's king Dadan. After confronting the king, George was tortured many times to no effect, was imprisoned and was aided by the angels. Eventually, he exposed that the idols were possessed by Satan, but was martyred when the city was destroyed by God in a rain of fire "
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" In The Golden Legend, by 13th-century Archbishop of Genoa Jacobus de Voragine, George's death is at the hands of Dacian, and about the year 287.[15]
It has been established that Saint George the Martyr and the Arian Bishop George of Alexandria were not identical; furthermore that Bishop George was slain by Gentile Greeks for exacting onerous taxes, especially inheritance taxes. And that Saint George in all likelihood was martyred before the year 290. [16] Although the Diocletianic Persecution of 303, associated with military saints because the persecution was aimed at Christians among the professional soldiers of the Roman army, is of undisputed historicity, the identity of Saint George as a historical individual had not been ascertained as of Edmund Spenser's day,[17][18] Herbert Thurston in the saint's entry in the early 20th century Catholic Encyclopedia takes the position that there are no grounds for doubting the historical existence of Saint George, but that, as usual with saints of this early period, the legend of the dragon cannot be treated as historical.[19]
Saint George in the Acta Sanctorum, as collected in late 1600s and early 1700s. The Latin title De S Georgio Megalo-Martyre; Lyddae seu Diospoli in Palaestina" translates as "St. George Great-Martyr; [from] Lydda or Diospolis, in Palestine.
The earliest text preserving fragments of George's narrative is in a Greek hagiography identified by Hippolyte Delehaye of the scholarly Bollandists to be a palimpsest of the fifth century.[20] The compiler of this Acta Sancti Georgii, according to Hippolyte Delehaye, "confused the martyr with his namesake, the celebrated George of Cappadocia, the Arian intruder into the see of Alexandria and enemy of St. Athanasius". An earlier work by Eusebius, Church history, written in the 4th century, contributed to the legend but did not name George or provide significant detai "
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_George
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Tha%60labi
23 April 2018 15:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Legend:
Püha Jüriga seostatakse tihti legendi, mille süžee langeb kokku imemuinasjututüübiga "Lohetapja".
Lohe mürgitas oma hingeõhuga kõik, kes talle lähenesid. Kapadookia sõdur Georg oli teel läbi Silene, Liibüas, ning nägi lohe terrorit kogukonnas. Esialgu nõudis lohe oma suure isu rahuldamiseks kaht lammast, hiljem aga juba inimliha. Lohe ohvreid valiti liisuga ning kui Georg linna jõudis, oli kuningatütre kord. Mõrsjarüüs printsess oli linna taga kalju külge aheldatud ja ootas oma saatust. Georg haaras oda ja astus koletisele vastu. Ta taltsustas lohe ja tõi selle printsessi vöö otsas linna, lubades eluka tappa, kui linnarahvas ristiusu vastu võtab. Seda 15 000 linlast kähku tegidki ning ainsa tasuna enesele palus Georg kuningat kirikuid ülal pidada, preestreid austada ja vaeseid aidata.
Püha Jüriga seostatakse tihti legendi, mille süžee langeb kokku imemuinasjututüübiga "Lohetapja".
Lohe mürgitas oma hingeõhuga kõik, kes talle lähenesid. Kapadookia sõdur Georg oli teel läbi Silene, Liibüas, ning nägi lohe terrorit kogukonnas. Esialgu nõudis lohe oma suure isu rahuldamiseks kaht lammast, hiljem aga juba inimliha. Lohe ohvreid valiti liisuga ning kui Georg linna jõudis, oli kuningatütre kord. Mõrsjarüüs printsess oli linna taga kalju külge aheldatud ja ootas oma saatust. Georg haaras oda ja astus koletisele vastu. Ta taltsustas lohe ja tõi selle printsessi vöö otsas linna, lubades eluka tappa, kui linnarahvas ristiusu vastu võtab. Seda 15 000 linlast kähku tegidki ning ainsa tasuna enesele palus Georg kuningat kirikuid ülal pidada, preestreid austada ja vaeseid aidata.
23 April 2018 15:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Püha Jüri (Georgios; ka Georg; hukati 303) oli Kapadookiast pärit ohvitser ja kristlik märter.
Ta on sõjameeste, rüütlite ning talupoegade kaitsepühak. Veel on tema kaitse all talusulased, püttsepad, turvisevalmistajad ja sadulsepad
Georgios hukati, sest ta oli söandanud halvustada Olümpose jumalaid.
Eestis on pühale Jürile pühendatud kirikud Jüris (Jüri kirik) ja Laiusel (Laiuse Püha Jüri kirik), samuti oli Tallinnas Püha Jüri ordu, Toomkirikus ja Nigulistes Püha Jüri kabelid. Alates 23. aprillist 2001 on Pärnumaal Toril EELK Tori Püha Jüri kogudus ja Eesti Sõjameeste Mälestuskirik. Püha Jüri kaitseb ka Võru linna ja ta nime kannab Võru peatänav (tsaariajal Georgi tänav, Nõukogude okupatsiooni ajal Lenini tänav). Lisaks Võru linnale kaitseb püha Jüri Gruusia riiki, Inglismaad ja Moskva linna.
Püha Jüri päev ehk jüripäev on 23. aprillil. Hispaanias on kombeks sel päeval kinkida raamatuid. Samal päeval, 1616. aastal, surid Cervantes ja Shakespeare, mistõttu UNESCO kuulutas 23. aprilli ülemaailmaseks raamatute ja autoriõiguste päevaks.
Eesti rahvakalendris on jüripäev olnud põllutööde alustamise päev. Euroopa rahvaste usundites seondub jüripäev samuti põllutööde ja mitmete kommetega (tuletegemine jne).
Püha Jüri sümbol on Püha Jüri rist, punane rist valgel taustal.
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Legend:
Püha Jüriga seostatakse tihti legendi, mille süžee langeb kokku imemuinasjututüübiga "Lohetapja".
Lohe mürgitas oma hingeõhuga kõik, kes talle lähenesid. Kapadookia sõdur Georg oli teel läbi Silene, Liibüas, ning nägi lohe terrorit kogukonnas. Esialgu nõudis lohe oma suure isu rahuldamiseks kaht lammast, hiljem aga juba inimliha. Lohe ohvreid valiti liisuga ning kui Georg linna jõudis, oli kuningatütre kord. Mõrsjarüüs printsess oli linna taga kalju külge aheldatud ja ootas oma saatust. Georg haaras oda ja astus koletisele vastu. Ta taltsustas lohe ja tõi selle printsessi vöö otsas linna, lubades eluka tappa, kui linnarahvas ristiusu vastu võtab. Seda 15 000 linlast kähku tegidki ning ainsa tasuna enesele palus Georg kuningat kirikuid ülal pidada, preestreid austada ja vaeseid aidata.
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%BCha_J%C3%BCri
Ta on sõjameeste, rüütlite ning talupoegade kaitsepühak. Veel on tema kaitse all talusulased, püttsepad, turvisevalmistajad ja sadulsepad
Georgios hukati, sest ta oli söandanud halvustada Olümpose jumalaid.
Eestis on pühale Jürile pühendatud kirikud Jüris (Jüri kirik) ja Laiusel (Laiuse Püha Jüri kirik), samuti oli Tallinnas Püha Jüri ordu, Toomkirikus ja Nigulistes Püha Jüri kabelid. Alates 23. aprillist 2001 on Pärnumaal Toril EELK Tori Püha Jüri kogudus ja Eesti Sõjameeste Mälestuskirik. Püha Jüri kaitseb ka Võru linna ja ta nime kannab Võru peatänav (tsaariajal Georgi tänav, Nõukogude okupatsiooni ajal Lenini tänav). Lisaks Võru linnale kaitseb püha Jüri Gruusia riiki, Inglismaad ja Moskva linna.
Püha Jüri päev ehk jüripäev on 23. aprillil. Hispaanias on kombeks sel päeval kinkida raamatuid. Samal päeval, 1616. aastal, surid Cervantes ja Shakespeare, mistõttu UNESCO kuulutas 23. aprilli ülemaailmaseks raamatute ja autoriõiguste päevaks.
Eesti rahvakalendris on jüripäev olnud põllutööde alustamise päev. Euroopa rahvaste usundites seondub jüripäev samuti põllutööde ja mitmete kommetega (tuletegemine jne).
Püha Jüri sümbol on Püha Jüri rist, punane rist valgel taustal.
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Legend:
Püha Jüriga seostatakse tihti legendi, mille süžee langeb kokku imemuinasjututüübiga "Lohetapja".
Lohe mürgitas oma hingeõhuga kõik, kes talle lähenesid. Kapadookia sõdur Georg oli teel läbi Silene, Liibüas, ning nägi lohe terrorit kogukonnas. Esialgu nõudis lohe oma suure isu rahuldamiseks kaht lammast, hiljem aga juba inimliha. Lohe ohvreid valiti liisuga ning kui Georg linna jõudis, oli kuningatütre kord. Mõrsjarüüs printsess oli linna taga kalju külge aheldatud ja ootas oma saatust. Georg haaras oda ja astus koletisele vastu. Ta taltsustas lohe ja tõi selle printsessi vöö otsas linna, lubades eluka tappa, kui linnarahvas ristiusu vastu võtab. Seda 15 000 linlast kähku tegidki ning ainsa tasuna enesele palus Georg kuningat kirikuid ülal pidada, preestreid austada ja vaeseid aidata.
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%BCha_J%C3%BCri
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%BCha_J%C3%BCri
23 April 2018 15:10
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov
ära endiselt seo makse arenguga, see on arulage sellele kes näeb suuremalt ja mitmeid muid võimalusi.
Ja tõesti.. ütlesid ka ise.. on need kes tegelikult ei maksa ja kellele makstakse.. ... nad oma maksud teiste maksudega ise äramaksavad.... jah, kes keelab teistel rokafellerid olla eks.
Puhtas kapitalismis isegi ei oleks makse vaja (kus haritakse inimesi mõtlema mida nad koos oma kogukonna tarvis tegema peaks siin ja naaberriigis), maksud pool sotsialistlik konstruktsioon minusimist vaadatuna. Alturismile peaks keskenduma inimesearengus. See tooks palju rohkem sisse kui maksud, Kordades. Niii tegudes kui resursis ka siis kui 25&% absoluutselt keelduksid midagi andmast.
Maksud taandarendavad inimese arengut pigem, sest ei sunni arengule vaid pasiivsele lootusel, et keegi teine kuskil midagi kasulikku ära teeb, ilma küsimusi küsimata annab lihtsalt usus ja lootuses, teadmatuses ... ja isegi siis kui ise valitsuse kallal vingub või üldse valitsuse tegevust ei toeta oma sõnutsi... mis on eriti irooniline, suur osa on valitsuse vastased oma sõnades ....ja siis kaitsevad makse ja seadusi mille algeid pole suvatsetud uurida. Ega analüüsida alternatiive (slle aja leidmiseks saab rännata alternatiiv aega kus suuremad infomahud ka ja siis siia tagasi arusaamine tuua, kuid see juba loodusLoojatehnoloogia millele maksumehed Sulle ligi ei soovi anda...)
ma pigem valitsuse poolne, kuid ei keskendu, et peaks makse koguma vaid keskenduma sellele kuidas asju paremaks teha, Mitte kuidas maksuringis hoida
Täiesti vaimselt haige, alaarengu suurimaid tasemeid on näiteks riigi tulu alkoholi ja suitsu aktsiisiga siduda
sest iga pudel mis ostetud ja suits tehtud, peaaegu alati on juba absoluutne raha miinus riigile ja kaotus,
ja siis, et pätid sulle osa % tagasi annavad, kuritöö kaasosalisena, riigile.. ja selle üle rõõmus olla veel... arvestada sellega.. see on kurb
ära endiselt seo makse arenguga, see on arulage sellele kes näeb suuremalt ja mitmeid muid võimalusi.
Ja tõesti.. ütlesid ka ise.. on need kes tegelikult ei maksa ja kellele makstakse.. ... nad oma maksud teiste maksudega ise äramaksavad.... jah, kes keelab teistel rokafellerid olla eks.
Puhtas kapitalismis isegi ei oleks makse vaja (kus haritakse inimesi mõtlema mida nad koos oma kogukonna tarvis tegema peaks siin ja naaberriigis), maksud pool sotsialistlik konstruktsioon minusimist vaadatuna. Alturismile peaks keskenduma inimesearengus. See tooks palju rohkem sisse kui maksud, Kordades. Niii tegudes kui resursis ka siis kui 25&% absoluutselt keelduksid midagi andmast.
Maksud taandarendavad inimese arengut pigem, sest ei sunni arengule vaid pasiivsele lootusel, et keegi teine kuskil midagi kasulikku ära teeb, ilma küsimusi küsimata annab lihtsalt usus ja lootuses, teadmatuses ... ja isegi siis kui ise valitsuse kallal vingub või üldse valitsuse tegevust ei toeta oma sõnutsi... mis on eriti irooniline, suur osa on valitsuse vastased oma sõnades ....ja siis kaitsevad makse ja seadusi mille algeid pole suvatsetud uurida. Ega analüüsida alternatiive (slle aja leidmiseks saab rännata alternatiiv aega kus suuremad infomahud ka ja siis siia tagasi arusaamine tuua, kuid see juba loodusLoojatehnoloogia millele maksumehed Sulle ligi ei soovi anda...)
ma pigem valitsuse poolne, kuid ei keskendu, et peaks makse koguma vaid keskenduma sellele kuidas asju paremaks teha, Mitte kuidas maksuringis hoida
Täiesti vaimselt haige, alaarengu suurimaid tasemeid on näiteks riigi tulu alkoholi ja suitsu aktsiisiga siduda
sest iga pudel mis ostetud ja suits tehtud, peaaegu alati on juba absoluutne raha miinus riigile ja kaotus,
ja siis, et pätid sulle osa % tagasi annavad, kuritöö kaasosalisena, riigile.. ja selle üle rõõmus olla veel... arvestada sellega.. see on kurb
23 April 2018 13:51
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja muide, ma pole minig ideoloogiline maksude vastane,
(kui grupp inimesi nõustub, et mingis ajutises rahasüsteemis mis kasutuses on, või misiganes resursi süsteemis, mingi lisaväärtuse tootmiseks igaüks phverdab osa oma heaolust suurema eesmärgi nimel, see lihtne, selleks saab polla ka töö, lastele raamatu lugemine või vanainimese jutu kuulamine, mis saab olla kasulikum kui kellegi 3 eurot või 300 eurot mis ta kuus maksab ja millega mingi arulage mitmesaja millioniline modernse kunsti käkerdis kokku keeratakse )
lihtsalt tuleb arusaada et saab ka ilma nendeta, agasiis tuleb välja mõelda lihtsalt alternatiiv lahendused, ei midagi ületamatut kui oled loov loom
(kui grupp inimesi nõustub, et mingis ajutises rahasüsteemis mis kasutuses on, või misiganes resursi süsteemis, mingi lisaväärtuse tootmiseks igaüks phverdab osa oma heaolust suurema eesmärgi nimel, see lihtne, selleks saab polla ka töö, lastele raamatu lugemine või vanainimese jutu kuulamine, mis saab olla kasulikum kui kellegi 3 eurot või 300 eurot mis ta kuus maksab ja millega mingi arulage mitmesaja millioniline modernse kunsti käkerdis kokku keeratakse )
lihtsalt tuleb arusaada et saab ka ilma nendeta, agasiis tuleb välja mõelda lihtsalt alternatiiv lahendused, ei midagi ületamatut kui oled loov loom
23 April 2018 13:36
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov tule taevas appi mis loogika, "kui poleks makse siis poleks.."
Jeerum, ega maksud ei tee asju ega mõtle neid välja, INIMESED teevad vastavalt sellele vajadusele ja kohustustele mida nad usuvad,
dementne ühiskond jah, mugavalt maksab makse ja ainult orjana läheb siis midagi tegema kui sunnitakse vastavalt olukorrale või reaalsele käsule või manipulatsioonile keemilisele ja psüholoogilisele mis kedagi uskuma paneb, et ta ühte või teist asja teha soovib.
Uskuda, et maksud jäävad nagu kravitatsioon (ja viimasegi osas juba vaieldakse..) on ikka ... ja siis kutsud mind naiivseks.
Osad perioodid on pikemad kui paar põlvkonda, suurema osa ajast on enamus inimesed & loomad planeedil elanud ilma kasudeta, maksuks oli inimese või looma enda kasulikus ja vajalikus ja sedagi alati ei sunnita peale, sellepärast on loodud ka ... kuidas need asjad nimetatakse kes peremees organismikulul elavad.. parasiidid vist
Jeerum, ega maksud ei tee asju ega mõtle neid välja, INIMESED teevad vastavalt sellele vajadusele ja kohustustele mida nad usuvad,
dementne ühiskond jah, mugavalt maksab makse ja ainult orjana läheb siis midagi tegema kui sunnitakse vastavalt olukorrale või reaalsele käsule või manipulatsioonile keemilisele ja psüholoogilisele mis kedagi uskuma paneb, et ta ühte või teist asja teha soovib.
Uskuda, et maksud jäävad nagu kravitatsioon (ja viimasegi osas juba vaieldakse..) on ikka ... ja siis kutsud mind naiivseks.
Osad perioodid on pikemad kui paar põlvkonda, suurema osa ajast on enamus inimesed & loomad planeedil elanud ilma kasudeta, maksuks oli inimese või looma enda kasulikus ja vajalikus ja sedagi alati ei sunnita peale, sellepärast on loodud ka ... kuidas need asjad nimetatakse kes peremees organismikulul elavad.. parasiidid vist
23 April 2018 13:34
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Sulle väike sonum minut 11'st
https://youtu.be/ZCU8wxCdKIE?t=555
https://youtu.be/ZCU8wxCdKIE?t=555
https://youtu.be/ZCU8wxCdKIE?t=555
23 April 2018 12:53
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Religioon selles nimes mida ma mõtlen ja tuleriitadel ei ole miskit pistmist,
Sa suure tõenäosusega liigitad kõik luterlaste ja muude laste asjad ka regiooni alla sarnaselt jumalameelsetega keda SELGELT AUSALT tead, piibel ise juba kurjusena esile tõi, kui poole silmagagi kaudselt piiblit lugenud oled või selle tõlgendusi.
See ei tähenda, et inimesed kurjad või kurjuses kõik kes liikmed, see omamoodi asi millest tuleb arusaada.
Naiivsed on need, kes arvavad, et nii peab olema ja, et nii jääb olema. Kindlasti ka nii EI ole olnud meie maal iiidsetel aegadel kui asjad korras olid, enneseda kui vallutajad tulid, need samad kes relgiooni imiteerisid.
See, et rooma meelsed, oma agendat ajades meelega ainult Sellist valitud ajalugu promovad, nagu fantaasiad, et liha on alati kõik söönud ja et maksu alati kõik maksnud (selleks ma mõeldud välja totter "ainult maksud ja surm on kindel" sloogan, inimmeelte vangistamiseks).
Praegusel ajal on uuesti, lihtsam kui kunagi varem, mitte maksu maksta ja raha saada maksuvabalt mille maksuvabalt saab edasi anda töölistele millegi uue tegemiseks, ja nad ise valivad mis maksustatud tooteid nad ostavad poest
Sa suure tõenäosusega liigitad kõik luterlaste ja muude laste asjad ka regiooni alla sarnaselt jumalameelsetega keda SELGELT AUSALT tead, piibel ise juba kurjusena esile tõi, kui poole silmagagi kaudselt piiblit lugenud oled või selle tõlgendusi.
See ei tähenda, et inimesed kurjad või kurjuses kõik kes liikmed, see omamoodi asi millest tuleb arusaada.
Naiivsed on need, kes arvavad, et nii peab olema ja, et nii jääb olema. Kindlasti ka nii EI ole olnud meie maal iiidsetel aegadel kui asjad korras olid, enneseda kui vallutajad tulid, need samad kes relgiooni imiteerisid.
See, et rooma meelsed, oma agendat ajades meelega ainult Sellist valitud ajalugu promovad, nagu fantaasiad, et liha on alati kõik söönud ja et maksu alati kõik maksnud (selleks ma mõeldud välja totter "ainult maksud ja surm on kindel" sloogan, inimmeelte vangistamiseks).
Praegusel ajal on uuesti, lihtsam kui kunagi varem, mitte maksu maksta ja raha saada maksuvabalt mille maksuvabalt saab edasi anda töölistele millegi uue tegemiseks, ja nad ise valivad mis maksustatud tooteid nad ostavad poest
23 April 2018 12:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
elli muidugi, microdosing, microdosing..
muidugi kohe nii eip soovitaks, kooliette esinema minna esmatripis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM0A9urb8xM
//komentaarid videos on hariduslikud
// kõik ei ole Bill Hickid :D
muidugi kohe nii eip soovitaks, kooliette esinema minna esmatripis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM0A9urb8xM
//komentaarid videos on hariduslikud
// kõik ei ole Bill Hickid :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM0A9urb8xM
23 April 2018 12:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lihtsalt mu arvamus, eks iga sõltlane ise arvab omamoodi ja vaatab oma sabaotsast
23 April 2018 12:19
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
Päris omamoodi "areng" ka kui selleasemel, et seeni närida näritakse korporatsioonide kasutegurita musta löga ja siis veel soovitakse tüdrukuid ka sellise kehaga, mis sellest läbi imbunud.. päris arusaamatu maailm :D
No offence, eks vanal ajal orjad ka imesid närimistubakat juba ammu ja võlts ülikud... peakski uurima, mis ajal see totrus tuli.. arvatvasti kopeeriti pärismaalastelt kes koka lehti närisid, neil lehtedel vähemasti mõte ja point oli ..
kuid yeah, eks suitsetamine vist veelgi müstilisem tegevus, ameerika korporatsioonide sunniviisiline "vabatahtlik" toetamine ja siis samal ajal fantaseeritakse, et vaba ja iseseisev mees, mitte nagu ülejäänud tillist tiritud orjamass
// need mehed muidugi kes naisel imeda lasevad, suitsu, need ilmselgelt päriselt ei saa tollest naisest hoolida ja need suhted ka püsima suures osas ei saa jääda, kui üks osa suhtest meeli hägustab kasutuga, aegajalt kommi või parem veel elli võtta oleks valgusaasta võtta suurema mõttelisem, kasulikum ka igas mõttes
No offence, eks vanal ajal orjad ka imesid närimistubakat juba ammu ja võlts ülikud... peakski uurima, mis ajal see totrus tuli.. arvatvasti kopeeriti pärismaalastelt kes koka lehti närisid, neil lehtedel vähemasti mõte ja point oli ..
kuid yeah, eks suitsetamine vist veelgi müstilisem tegevus, ameerika korporatsioonide sunniviisiline "vabatahtlik" toetamine ja siis samal ajal fantaseeritakse, et vaba ja iseseisev mees, mitte nagu ülejäänud tillist tiritud orjamass
// need mehed muidugi kes naisel imeda lasevad, suitsu, need ilmselgelt päriselt ei saa tollest naisest hoolida ja need suhted ka püsima suures osas ei saa jääda, kui üks osa suhtest meeli hägustab kasutuga, aegajalt kommi või parem veel elli võtta oleks valgusaasta võtta suurema mõttelisem, kasulikum ka igas mõttes
23 April 2018 12:18
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov kindlasti mitte ei juhtuks see mis räägid. Ainult vaimupimedate, jumalakaugete ühiskondadega juhtuks see kellel vaja kiipe peas hoida ja kumminuia ribidevahel, et nad mööda liini orjadena rügaks võõra jaoks ja vastu isegi ei anta ausust, austust ega tõde miks nad siin on ja mida nad siin maal tegema peaksid, ja mis siin olnud on ja mis tulema saab ja miks.
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Muidugi suht arulage ja maiselt kitsarinnaline on mõelda, et asutused kes nii kõrgete, meie maaasjatamiste väliste suurasjadega otse tulnukate, looojate ja loojaga asja ajavad.. et nende osas siin peaks rahameestel ütlemist olema... muidugi eks igavesti suur kari muid puuke ka külge ennast liitnud, kes ka imiteerivad jumalaasja ajamist, kuid arupeaks ikka saama, et kui keegi üldse makse reguleerib, siis need usumeeste loal ja arusaamistega kooskõlas peaks olema, normaalses maailmas.
Muidu varsti sellised maksud kaelas, et võetakse voodi ka alt ära, mõnel võetaksegi.
kujuta ette, kui keegi otsustaks, et ta tahab ainult oma enda maalapil elada, mis tal pere esiisad välja teeninud mitusada aastat tagasi... ise maa harinud, metsad kasvatanud.. ja tal pole isegi huvi kuskile sõita, tööriistadki olemas millega uue maja ise püsti saab nagu vanasti...
ja siis öeldakse talle, et kui Sul raha ei ole siis lõppude lõpuks tuleme ja võtame su maa ja maja ära.
Nu kuhu see kõlbab. Isegi sellest ei piisa, kui ta ütleb, et ta siis üldise riigi kaitse eest otse kaitseliidule koorma palke saadab või lastehaigla toetuseks... öeldakse et... ei.. peab siit pangaarvele kandma.. ja üldsegi.. ei saa inimesel maad olla kui tal pangaaarvet pole..
Nu see ju utoopia tipp, tulevikus naerdakse selle üle pisar silmis ja suure kurbusega
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Muidugi suht arulage ja maiselt kitsarinnaline on mõelda, et asutused kes nii kõrgete, meie maaasjatamiste väliste suurasjadega otse tulnukate, looojate ja loojaga asja ajavad.. et nende osas siin peaks rahameestel ütlemist olema... muidugi eks igavesti suur kari muid puuke ka külge ennast liitnud, kes ka imiteerivad jumalaasja ajamist, kuid arupeaks ikka saama, et kui keegi üldse makse reguleerib, siis need usumeeste loal ja arusaamistega kooskõlas peaks olema, normaalses maailmas.
Muidu varsti sellised maksud kaelas, et võetakse voodi ka alt ära, mõnel võetaksegi.
kujuta ette, kui keegi otsustaks, et ta tahab ainult oma enda maalapil elada, mis tal pere esiisad välja teeninud mitusada aastat tagasi... ise maa harinud, metsad kasvatanud.. ja tal pole isegi huvi kuskile sõita, tööriistadki olemas millega uue maja ise püsti saab nagu vanasti...
ja siis öeldakse talle, et kui Sul raha ei ole siis lõppude lõpuks tuleme ja võtame su maa ja maja ära.
Nu kuhu see kõlbab. Isegi sellest ei piisa, kui ta ütleb, et ta siis üldise riigi kaitse eest otse kaitseliidule koorma palke saadab või lastehaigla toetuseks... öeldakse et... ei.. peab siit pangaarvele kandma.. ja üldsegi.. ei saa inimesel maad olla kui tal pangaaarvet pole..
Nu see ju utoopia tipp, tulevikus naerdakse selle üle pisar silmis ja suure kurbusega
23 April 2018 12:13
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov hea oleks, et maksustamine üldse likvideeruks
23 April 2018 12:04
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
see kas see ka "hea" meie enda hetke arusaama osas igal ajal on, selle juba jätan nende teada, kes seda teavad, muidugi.. meile soovitav oleks näha ja leida heast head ja paremat
// oih, see lauseei tulnud aruselge,
(ühesõnaga, ) / soovitav oleks osata eraldada vähemhead ja leida sellest mis pole ilmselgelt paha, leida sellest head, et eksimusi poleks pärishea osas
Nõuda head... poel vaja.. eeldada tuleb, et lõpuks see mis tuleb ongi hea selleks, milleks vaja ...
eeeih see lause ka eip rahuldu minu mõttega mida väljendada proovisin.. mõtlen veel..
// oih, see lauseei tulnud aruselge,
(ühesõnaga, ) / soovitav oleks osata eraldada vähemhead ja leida sellest mis pole ilmselgelt paha, leida sellest head, et eksimusi poleks pärishea osas
Nõuda head... poel vaja.. eeldada tuleb, et lõpuks see mis tuleb ongi hea selleks, milleks vaja ...
eeeih see lause ka eip rahuldu minu mõttega mida väljendada proovisin.. mõtlen veel..
23 April 2018 12:00
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov mulle piisab sellest, et tuleb see mis õige ja mida vaja, selleks et saaks see mida lõppkokkuvõttes kõik soovime lõpliku võimaluseni
23 April 2018 11:59
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov sest on vaja ja see selleks loodud,
ja vahest isegi "kuradima" pärast ka.
Sest vaja on täis väärtuslikumat arusaama, kellega kes millal, miks ja mis moodi rääkis.
Siis jääb vestlus täisväärtuslikumalt mulle siia kui näen, mida ma sellel hetkel nägin.
Kas said jumalasthea vastuse nüüd?
ja vahest isegi "kuradima" pärast ka.
Sest vaja on täis väärtuslikumat arusaama, kellega kes millal, miks ja mis moodi rääkis.
Siis jääb vestlus täisväärtuslikumalt mulle siia kui näen, mida ma sellel hetkel nägin.
Kas said jumalasthea vastuse nüüd?
23 April 2018 11:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
unustuste usku rahvas
23 April 2018 11:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
JA vahest ei tea kumb on vastupidine lohutavale,
kas olukord, et erinevates vestlus-foorumites, inimesed nii arusaamaarutuste äärmuspiiris , et nad lihtsalt pole erinevates kohtades tuhandetest, nendest kes KINDLAT näinud nende artistide/inimvälimuste pilti/pealkirja, mis peaks ise juba kindlustama "kliki"/vaatamise.
ja ometigi, suurused mida elektroonika kokku loeb, jääb samasse numbritesse.. (milleks 390 on enamasti olnud / 90 Toomal, mis esimakordse jagamise järgsed, )
VÕI
on kergem lohutada ennast sellega, et tegu tulnukatega. tulnuka kontrolliga mis teeb need asjad nähtumatuks,
ei saa olla ju sedasi, et ülikooli harduse ligidase haridusega inimesed ja neil puuduks meeldivus ja arusaam eelmise laulu ja järgneva video osas, lihtsalt ainuüksi selle info olemuse osas, mis ta eraldab igasugusest muust mile osas saaks öelda, et " "_see_" teema ei ole "_minu:" "_teema_" "
hallo halloo... tõesti tõesti, kui oled kunagi viimastel nädalatel aega kulutanud rohkem kui 10 minutit reporterile, või päevalehe lugemisele, või kuulanud tausta raadiot autos.. siis ilmselgelt eksid, kui julged arvata, et (okok...ma siitmaalt jätan veel teravama osa lisamatta, sest ehk tõesti, see sõnaotseses mõttes, mis videos öeldu)
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377/
kas olukord, et erinevates vestlus-foorumites, inimesed nii arusaamaarutuste äärmuspiiris , et nad lihtsalt pole erinevates kohtades tuhandetest, nendest kes KINDLAT näinud nende artistide/inimvälimuste pilti/pealkirja, mis peaks ise juba kindlustama "kliki"/vaatamise.
ja ometigi, suurused mida elektroonika kokku loeb, jääb samasse numbritesse.. (milleks 390 on enamasti olnud / 90 Toomal, mis esimakordse jagamise järgsed, )
VÕI
on kergem lohutada ennast sellega, et tegu tulnukatega. tulnuka kontrolliga mis teeb need asjad nähtumatuks,
ei saa olla ju sedasi, et ülikooli harduse ligidase haridusega inimesed ja neil puuduks meeldivus ja arusaam eelmise laulu ja järgneva video osas, lihtsalt ainuüksi selle info olemuse osas, mis ta eraldab igasugusest muust mile osas saaks öelda, et " "_see_" teema ei ole "_minu:" "_teema_" "
hallo halloo... tõesti tõesti, kui oled kunagi viimastel nädalatel aega kulutanud rohkem kui 10 minutit reporterile, või päevalehe lugemisele, või kuulanud tausta raadiot autos.. siis ilmselgelt eksid, kui julged arvata, et (okok...ma siitmaalt jätan veel teravama osa lisamatta, sest ehk tõesti, see sõnaotseses mõttes, mis videos öeldu)
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377/
23 April 2018 11:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Veel üks illuminaatlik laul:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214107544899370/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214107544899370/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab
23 April 2018 11:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siis kui ta tunnistama peab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mXHJF0LTK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mXHJF0LTK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mXHJF0LTK8
23 April 2018 11:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui keegi selle nüüd Eestikeele voolavasse ilusse panna oskaks, siis oleks vast endal ka kergem lugeda
23 April 2018 09:55
Margus Meigo commented on Enn Ojaste's photo.
Vot ega sauna inimesena alasti olla raske pole,
kuid mis voodisse puutub siis see kogu hinge avamisega käsikäes mu meeltes ikka käib.
Seepärast mul ongi kogu aega peatava ehmatusena mõjunud olukord kus hilisemal veel karisemal teel olles kohanud daami, kes ise hästi mõeldes, ei soovinud mu asjade ligi minna Näoraamatusse sissepoole, arvates, et see liigne privaatsusest üleastumine oleks... ...ometi võttis see mul vaat, et mahaistumist ja nädalaid segadust, selgitamist, et kuidas siin see privaatsuse osa, sai juba ammu seljataha jäetud, ja kuidas ma ise nii pimemeelse nägemisega küll olin täis avatud silmadega (et ei märganud, et teisepoole jaoks, on veel endiselt eraelu..).
kuid mis voodisse puutub siis see kogu hinge avamisega käsikäes mu meeltes ikka käib.
Seepärast mul ongi kogu aega peatava ehmatusena mõjunud olukord kus hilisemal veel karisemal teel olles kohanud daami, kes ise hästi mõeldes, ei soovinud mu asjade ligi minna Näoraamatusse sissepoole, arvates, et see liigne privaatsusest üleastumine oleks... ...ometi võttis see mul vaat, et mahaistumist ja nädalaid segadust, selgitamist, et kuidas siin see privaatsuse osa, sai juba ammu seljataha jäetud, ja kuidas ma ise nii pimemeelse nägemisega küll olin täis avatud silmadega (et ei märganud, et teisepoole jaoks, on veel endiselt eraelu..).
23 April 2018 09:52
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Ratas's comment.
kuigi, eks ta teisipidi jälle tundub veider täiskasvanutel, kellel juba kaal käes, seda jälgida... selleasemel, et jälgida seda mida elus tehakse
(ei nu tõepoolest, kui jälgitakse nii tillukesi asju nagu viis kilo siia või sinna.. siis narr võrreldes elu päris muresi,
kuid kui juba Kilogrammi jälgitakse, siis oleks vaja ravi, peas, tegelikult; psühhedeelset / hingelist )
(ei nu tõepoolest, kui jälgitakse nii tillukesi asju nagu viis kilo siia või sinna.. siis narr võrreldes elu päris muresi,
kuid kui juba Kilogrammi jälgitakse, siis oleks vaja ravi, peas, tegelikult; psühhedeelset / hingelist )
23 April 2018 09:40
Margus Meigo commented on Enn Ojaste's photo.
Vot see on juba usaldus ja vendlus
23 April 2018 09:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://thehiddenoness.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/6/2/13629137/the_book_of_wisdom_of_solomon.pdf
23 April 2018 02:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/14951-wisdom-of-solomon-book-of-the
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Võimalik et veelgi olulisem kui tarvidus otsida paralleele Srk tekstikohtadele VT-s või väljaspool heebrea tarkuskirjandust on vajadus üritada mõista Srk koostamise struktuurilisi printsiipe. Jeremy Corley toob välja, et Srk-d on võimalik jaotada kaheksaks sisuliseks ühikuks, millest kõik algavad tarkuse poeemiga: I osa (1:1–4:10), mis algab poeemiga 1:1–10; II osa (4:11–6:17), mis algab poeemiga 4:11–19; III osa (6:18–14:19), mis algab poeemiga 6:18–37; IV osa (14:20–23:27), mis algab poeemiga 14:20–15:10; V osa (24:1–32:13), mis algab poeemiga 24:1–33; VI osa (32:14–38:23), mis algab poeemiga 32:14–33:18; VII osa (38:24–43:33), mis algab poeemiga 38:24–39:12; VIII osa (44,1–50,24), mis algab poeemiga 44:1–15. Neile kaheksale osale lisandub veel lisa 50:25–51:30, mis lõpeb tarkuse poeemiga 51:13–30 (Corley 2008b, 34–35). Võib tähele panna, et I ja V osa algavad hümnidega tarkusele, mis markeerivad teose jaotumist kaheks.
Srk-s leidub mitu üldteemat, mis piiritlevad erinevaid osi. Üheks selliseks on „jhwh kartus“, näiteks 1:30 lõpetab poeemi 1:11–30 ja 6:16 lõpetab poeemi 6:5–17 jne. Teiseks teemaks on Toora, näiteks 6:37 lõpetab poeemi 6:18–37 ja 20:27 lõpetab poeemi 22:27–23:27 jne. Kolmandaks teemaks on ülistamine, näiteks 15:9–10 lõpetab poeemi 14:20–15:10 ja 44:14–15 lõpetab poeemi 44:1–15 jne (Corley 2008b, 39).
Seega näitavad Jeesus Siiraki mastaapses teoses nii poeemide struktuurid kui ka tervikstuktuur ise, mis on autori jaoks kõige olulisemad teoloogilised raskuspunktid, need on nimede väärtustamine (ülistamine), jumalakartus, Toora ja kõigi eelmistega seotud tarkus.
Kirjandus
Beentjes, Pancratius C. (2007) The Book of Ben Sira in Hebrew. Supplements to Vetus Testamentum 68, Leiden, New York, Köln: Brill.
Beentjes, Pancratius C. (2008) „„Full Wisdom Is from the Lord“: Sir 1:1–10 and its Place in Israel’s Wisdom Literature“ – Passaro / Bellia 2008, 139–154.
Calduch-Benages, Nuria; Ferrer, Joan; Liesen, Jan (2003) La Sabiduría del Escriba. Wisdom of the Scribe. Editorial Verbo Divino, Estella, Navarra, Espaňa.
Corley, Jeremy (2008a) „Sirach 44:1–15 as Introduction to the Praise of the Ancestors“ – Studies in the Book of Ben Sira. Supplements to the Journal for the Study of Judaism 127, G.G. Xeravits, J. Zsengellér, eds. Leiden, Boston: Brill, 151–181.
Corley, Jeremy (2008b) „Searching for Structure and Redaction in Ben Sira“ – Passaro / Bellia 2008, 21–47.
Di Lella, Alexander A. (1997) „Fear of the Lord as Wisdom: Ben Sira 1:11–30“ – The Book of Ben Sira in Modern Research. Berlin, New York: de Gruyter, 113–133.
Gilbert, Maurice (2008) „Methodological and Hermeneutical Trends in Modern Exegesis on the Book of Ben Sira“ – Passaro / Bellia 2008, 1–20.
Kottsieper, Ingo (1990) Die Sprache der Achikarsprüche. Beihefte zur Zeitschrift für die alttestamentliche Wissenschaft 194, Berlin, New York: de Gruyter.
Marttila, Marko (2012) Foreign Nations in the Wisdom of Ben Sira. Deuterocanonical and Cognate Literature Studies 13, Berlin, Boston: de Gruyter.
Nõmmik, Urmas (2012) „Tants Vana Testamendi algteksti ümber“ – Kirik & Teoloogia, nr 24, 25.5.2012.
Passaro, Angelo; Bellia, Giuseppe, eds. (2008) The Wisdom of Ben Sira: Studies on Tradition, Redaction, and Theology. Deuterocanonical and Cognate Literature Studies 1, Berlin, New York: de Gruyter.
Sanders, Jack T. (1983) Ben Sira and Demotic Wisdom. James L. Crenshaw, ed. Society of Biblical Literature Monograph Series 28, California, Chico: Scholars Press.
Skehan, Patrick W., Di Lella, Alexander A. (1987) The Wisdom of Ben Sira. The Anchor Bible 39, New York: Doubleday.
Ziegler, Josef (1965) Sapientia Iesu Filii Sirach. Septuaginta. Vetus Testamentum Graecum, XII, 2. Göttingen: Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht.
Weigl, Michael (2010) Die aramäischen Achikar-Sprüche aus Elephantine und die alttestamentliche Weisheitsliteratur. Beihefte zur Zeitschrift für die alttestamentliche Wissenschaft 399, Berlin, New York: de Gruyter.
Märkus: artikkel on kirjutatud ETF grandi 9279 toel.
Jonas Jakobson (1983) on Tartu Ülikooli usuteaduskonna Vana Testamendi doktorand.
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Võimalik et veelgi olulisem kui tarvidus otsida paralleele Srk tekstikohtadele VT-s või väljaspool heebrea tarkuskirjandust on vajadus üritada mõista Srk koostamise struktuurilisi printsiipe. Jeremy Corley toob välja, et Srk-d on võimalik jaotada kaheksaks sisuliseks ühikuks, millest kõik algavad tarkuse poeemiga: I osa (1:1–4:10), mis algab poeemiga 1:1–10; II osa (4:11–6:17), mis algab poeemiga 4:11–19; III osa (6:18–14:19), mis algab poeemiga 6:18–37; IV osa (14:20–23:27), mis algab poeemiga 14:20–15:10; V osa (24:1–32:13), mis algab poeemiga 24:1–33; VI osa (32:14–38:23), mis algab poeemiga 32:14–33:18; VII osa (38:24–43:33), mis algab poeemiga 38:24–39:12; VIII osa (44,1–50,24), mis algab poeemiga 44:1–15. Neile kaheksale osale lisandub veel lisa 50:25–51:30, mis lõpeb tarkuse poeemiga 51:13–30 (Corley 2008b, 34–35). Võib tähele panna, et I ja V osa algavad hümnidega tarkusele, mis markeerivad teose jaotumist kaheks.
Srk-s leidub mitu üldteemat, mis piiritlevad erinevaid osi. Üheks selliseks on „jhwh kartus“, näiteks 1:30 lõpetab poeemi 1:11–30 ja 6:16 lõpetab poeemi 6:5–17 jne. Teiseks teemaks on Toora, näiteks 6:37 lõpetab poeemi 6:18–37 ja 20:27 lõpetab poeemi 22:27–23:27 jne. Kolmandaks teemaks on ülistamine, näiteks 15:9–10 lõpetab poeemi 14:20–15:10 ja 44:14–15 lõpetab poeemi 44:1–15 jne (Corley 2008b, 39).
Seega näitavad Jeesus Siiraki mastaapses teoses nii poeemide struktuurid kui ka tervikstuktuur ise, mis on autori jaoks kõige olulisemad teoloogilised raskuspunktid, need on nimede väärtustamine (ülistamine), jumalakartus, Toora ja kõigi eelmistega seotud tarkus.
Kirjandus
Beentjes, Pancratius C. (2007) The Book of Ben Sira in Hebrew. Supplements to Vetus Testamentum 68, Leiden, New York, Köln: Brill.
Beentjes, Pancratius C. (2008) „„Full Wisdom Is from the Lord“: Sir 1:1–10 and its Place in Israel’s Wisdom Literature“ – Passaro / Bellia 2008, 139–154.
Calduch-Benages, Nuria; Ferrer, Joan; Liesen, Jan (2003) La Sabiduría del Escriba. Wisdom of the Scribe. Editorial Verbo Divino, Estella, Navarra, Espaňa.
Corley, Jeremy (2008a) „Sirach 44:1–15 as Introduction to the Praise of the Ancestors“ – Studies in the Book of Ben Sira. Supplements to the Journal for the Study of Judaism 127, G.G. Xeravits, J. Zsengellér, eds. Leiden, Boston: Brill, 151–181.
Corley, Jeremy (2008b) „Searching for Structure and Redaction in Ben Sira“ – Passaro / Bellia 2008, 21–47.
Di Lella, Alexander A. (1997) „Fear of the Lord as Wisdom: Ben Sira 1:11–30“ – The Book of Ben Sira in Modern Research. Berlin, New York: de Gruyter, 113–133.
Gilbert, Maurice (2008) „Methodological and Hermeneutical Trends in Modern Exegesis on the Book of Ben Sira“ – Passaro / Bellia 2008, 1–20.
Kottsieper, Ingo (1990) Die Sprache der Achikarsprüche. Beihefte zur Zeitschrift für die alttestamentliche Wissenschaft 194, Berlin, New York: de Gruyter.
Marttila, Marko (2012) Foreign Nations in the Wisdom of Ben Sira. Deuterocanonical and Cognate Literature Studies 13, Berlin, Boston: de Gruyter.
Nõmmik, Urmas (2012) „Tants Vana Testamendi algteksti ümber“ – Kirik & Teoloogia, nr 24, 25.5.2012.
Passaro, Angelo; Bellia, Giuseppe, eds. (2008) The Wisdom of Ben Sira: Studies on Tradition, Redaction, and Theology. Deuterocanonical and Cognate Literature Studies 1, Berlin, New York: de Gruyter.
Sanders, Jack T. (1983) Ben Sira and Demotic Wisdom. James L. Crenshaw, ed. Society of Biblical Literature Monograph Series 28, California, Chico: Scholars Press.
Skehan, Patrick W., Di Lella, Alexander A. (1987) The Wisdom of Ben Sira. The Anchor Bible 39, New York: Doubleday.
Ziegler, Josef (1965) Sapientia Iesu Filii Sirach. Septuaginta. Vetus Testamentum Graecum, XII, 2. Göttingen: Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht.
Weigl, Michael (2010) Die aramäischen Achikar-Sprüche aus Elephantine und die alttestamentliche Weisheitsliteratur. Beihefte zur Zeitschrift für die alttestamentliche Wissenschaft 399, Berlin, New York: de Gruyter.
Märkus: artikkel on kirjutatud ETF grandi 9279 toel.
Jonas Jakobson (1983) on Tartu Ülikooli usuteaduskonna Vana Testamendi doktorand.
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23 April 2018 02:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
„Ma ülistan vagasid mehi,
meie isasid nende põlvkonnas;
/…/
Nende kehad rahus maeti,
nende nimi elab põlvkonnast põlvkonda;
kogu meenutab nende tarkust,
kogudus lausub nende ülistust“ (44:1, 14–15).
Küllap seepärast näeb pojapoeg ka põhjust, miks on vaja veelgi tugevamalt talletada oma vanaisa Jeesuse nime, kes kirjutas ise „midagi õpetuse ja tarkuse laadis“ (vaba tõlge pojapoja kreekakeelse proloogi baasil). Srk-s teenivad ülistuse välja ka mašal’ide ehk tarkussõnade loojad (Srk 44:4a–5b).
Tarkuse ülistamisest ja raamatu mõttest
Lisaks nime väärtustamisele ning esiisade ja Jumala ülistamisele on Srk-s tähtsal kohal veel tarkuse ülistamine. Srk-s esinevate raskuspunktide valikus võib märgata VT-le omast, aga ka kergeid kõrvalekaldeid. Näiteks on teadlased vaielnud selle üle, kas Srk peamiseks teemaks on tarkus või „jhwh kartus“ („Jahve kartus“ ehk jumalakartus). Mõlema seisukoha jaoks leidub kinnitusi. Väljend „jhwh kartus“, mis tuleb ette ka mujal VT-s, esineb Srk-s 55–60 korda. Samas esineb hkmh „tarkus“ Srk-s 90 korda. Seega on mõlema seisukoha jaoks oma tugipunktid olemas (Di Lella 1997, 113). Selleks, et probleemi mõista, võib vaadelda Srk kahte esimest poeemi Srk 1:1–10 ja 1:11–30. Kahjuks pole kumbki poeem heebrea keeles säilinud, aga see ei takista lühikest arutelu.
Esimeses poeemis 1:1–10 on salmid 5, 7 ja 10cd sekundaarsed ja kuuluvad GII koostamise järku (Ziegler 1965, 128–129). Selle poeemi võib lühidalt märksõnades kokku võtta: kõik Tarkus on pärit Jumalalt ja püsib Temaga igavesti (1:1); Tarkus loodi enne kõike muud, igavikust (1:1–4); ainult üks on tark – Jumal (1:6–8); Jumal lõi tarkuse ja jaotas selle kõigile, kes Teda armastavad (1:9–10) (Beentjes 2008, 142).
Paralleele antud tekstiga (võib-olla veelgi tugevamalt Srk 24,1–33) leidub VT-s Õp 8:22–30 ja Ii 28, milles nähakse tarkuse, kes loodi enne kõike muud, personifitseerimist. Sellist tendentsi võib jälgida ka kirjanduses, mis asub väljaspool VT-d – Assüüria Ahikari ütlustes. Ingo Kottsieperi taastatud teksti põhjal võib siin olulisena välja tuua X,1(95): „ka jumalate poolt on ta kiidetud /…/ taevasse on ta tõstetud /…/“ (Kottsieper 1990, 20).
Kuigi Ahikari tekstis leidub kõige varasemaid näiteid tarkuse personifitseerimisest, hoiatab Michael Weigl, et antud juhul pole siiski tegemist päris samal astmel isikustamisega kui hilisemates tekstides (Weigl 2010, 75–76).
Järgnevas poeemis 1:11–30 esineb väljend „jhwh kartus“ või mõni selle vaste kaheteistkümnel korral ja sõna „tarkus“ seitsmel korral: jumalakartus on tarkuse algus, täius ja kroon (1:14–21); „jhwh kartus“ toob endaga kaasa mitmeid õnnistusi (1:11–13) ja tähendab seadusest kinni pidamist (1:26) (Di Lella 1997, 113–114).
Kõige parema lahenduse selle jaoks pakub Rudolf Smend, kui ta ütleb, et subjektiivselt on tarkus „jhwh kartus“, aga objektiivselt on selleks Moosese seadus (Toora – twrh) (vt Di Lella 1997, 114). Kuigi ka Õp-s esineb termin twrh paaris „tarkuse“ ja selle sünonüümidega, ei esine seal nende kahe termini identifitseerimist sellisel tasandil nagu Srk-s (terminid hkmh ja twrh esinevad Srk 15:1; 17:1; 19:20; 21:11; 24:23; 34:8; 45:5; kaudsed viited esinevad Srk 1:26; 2:15–16; 6:36; 15:15; 19:24; 24:22; 24:32–33; 32:2–3; 44:4; 51:5; 51:30). Õp 1–9 puhul (nt 1:7; 9:10) on selle suunas liikumist võimalik tajuda, aga Srk otsene ja selge tarkuse identifitseerimine Tooraga on selgelt omanäoline.
meie isasid nende põlvkonnas;
/…/
Nende kehad rahus maeti,
nende nimi elab põlvkonnast põlvkonda;
kogu meenutab nende tarkust,
kogudus lausub nende ülistust“ (44:1, 14–15).
Küllap seepärast näeb pojapoeg ka põhjust, miks on vaja veelgi tugevamalt talletada oma vanaisa Jeesuse nime, kes kirjutas ise „midagi õpetuse ja tarkuse laadis“ (vaba tõlge pojapoja kreekakeelse proloogi baasil). Srk-s teenivad ülistuse välja ka mašal’ide ehk tarkussõnade loojad (Srk 44:4a–5b).
Tarkuse ülistamisest ja raamatu mõttest
Lisaks nime väärtustamisele ning esiisade ja Jumala ülistamisele on Srk-s tähtsal kohal veel tarkuse ülistamine. Srk-s esinevate raskuspunktide valikus võib märgata VT-le omast, aga ka kergeid kõrvalekaldeid. Näiteks on teadlased vaielnud selle üle, kas Srk peamiseks teemaks on tarkus või „jhwh kartus“ („Jahve kartus“ ehk jumalakartus). Mõlema seisukoha jaoks leidub kinnitusi. Väljend „jhwh kartus“, mis tuleb ette ka mujal VT-s, esineb Srk-s 55–60 korda. Samas esineb hkmh „tarkus“ Srk-s 90 korda. Seega on mõlema seisukoha jaoks oma tugipunktid olemas (Di Lella 1997, 113). Selleks, et probleemi mõista, võib vaadelda Srk kahte esimest poeemi Srk 1:1–10 ja 1:11–30. Kahjuks pole kumbki poeem heebrea keeles säilinud, aga see ei takista lühikest arutelu.
Esimeses poeemis 1:1–10 on salmid 5, 7 ja 10cd sekundaarsed ja kuuluvad GII koostamise järku (Ziegler 1965, 128–129). Selle poeemi võib lühidalt märksõnades kokku võtta: kõik Tarkus on pärit Jumalalt ja püsib Temaga igavesti (1:1); Tarkus loodi enne kõike muud, igavikust (1:1–4); ainult üks on tark – Jumal (1:6–8); Jumal lõi tarkuse ja jaotas selle kõigile, kes Teda armastavad (1:9–10) (Beentjes 2008, 142).
Paralleele antud tekstiga (võib-olla veelgi tugevamalt Srk 24,1–33) leidub VT-s Õp 8:22–30 ja Ii 28, milles nähakse tarkuse, kes loodi enne kõike muud, personifitseerimist. Sellist tendentsi võib jälgida ka kirjanduses, mis asub väljaspool VT-d – Assüüria Ahikari ütlustes. Ingo Kottsieperi taastatud teksti põhjal võib siin olulisena välja tuua X,1(95): „ka jumalate poolt on ta kiidetud /…/ taevasse on ta tõstetud /…/“ (Kottsieper 1990, 20).
Kuigi Ahikari tekstis leidub kõige varasemaid näiteid tarkuse personifitseerimisest, hoiatab Michael Weigl, et antud juhul pole siiski tegemist päris samal astmel isikustamisega kui hilisemates tekstides (Weigl 2010, 75–76).
Järgnevas poeemis 1:11–30 esineb väljend „jhwh kartus“ või mõni selle vaste kaheteistkümnel korral ja sõna „tarkus“ seitsmel korral: jumalakartus on tarkuse algus, täius ja kroon (1:14–21); „jhwh kartus“ toob endaga kaasa mitmeid õnnistusi (1:11–13) ja tähendab seadusest kinni pidamist (1:26) (Di Lella 1997, 113–114).
Kõige parema lahenduse selle jaoks pakub Rudolf Smend, kui ta ütleb, et subjektiivselt on tarkus „jhwh kartus“, aga objektiivselt on selleks Moosese seadus (Toora – twrh) (vt Di Lella 1997, 114). Kuigi ka Õp-s esineb termin twrh paaris „tarkuse“ ja selle sünonüümidega, ei esine seal nende kahe termini identifitseerimist sellisel tasandil nagu Srk-s (terminid hkmh ja twrh esinevad Srk 15:1; 17:1; 19:20; 21:11; 24:23; 34:8; 45:5; kaudsed viited esinevad Srk 1:26; 2:15–16; 6:36; 15:15; 19:24; 24:22; 24:32–33; 32:2–3; 44:4; 51:5; 51:30). Õp 1–9 puhul (nt 1:7; 9:10) on selle suunas liikumist võimalik tajuda, aga Srk otsene ja selge tarkuse identifitseerimine Tooraga on selgelt omanäoline.
23 April 2018 02:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuigi pole heebreakeelset Srk käsikirja, milles oleks säilinud teose algus, on olemas kaks kirjakohta, Srk 50:27 ja 51:30, kus on edasi antud autori nimi – šm‘wn bn jšw‘ bn ’l‘zr bn sjr’, „Simeon, Jeesuse (Ješua) poeg, Eleazari poeg, Sira poeg“. Nimi Simeon on tõenäoliselt viga, mis tuleneb nendele kirjakohtadele vahetult eelnenud ülempreester Simeoni ülistusest (Srk 50:1–24). Kreekakeelne tõlge edastab samas kohas, Srk 50:27, autori nime: Iēsous hyios Sirach Eleazar ho Ierosolymitēs, „Jeesus, Sirah Eleazari poeg, jeruusalemlane“. Kuigi Sira (hbr sjr’) etümoloogia on lahtine, tundub see olevat autori nimes kõige kindlam osa, kuna ka rabiinlikud allikad viitavad autorile kui Ben Sirale või Bar Sirale (Skehan / Di Lella 1987, 3–4). Samas jääb mõistetamatuks, millist heebrea konsonanti transkribeeritakse nime Sira (sjr’) kreeka tõlkes kreeka tähega χ (Marttila 2012, 1–2, märkus 2).
Kreeka tõlke mõju nimevormile on võimalik tajuda ka eestikeelsetes tõlgetes, mis baseeruvad kreekakeelsel tekstil ning esitlevad teose autorit kui Jeesus Siirakit, mitte Sirat, samuti on traditsiooniks kasutada lühendit „Srk“. Siin on kindlasti tajuda saksa keeleruumi mõju, kus on kasutusel kreekapärane nimetus Sirach. Kaasaegsed uurijad eristavad Sirach’it, mis viitab teosele, ja Sira’t, mis viitab autorile; rahvusvaheliselt kasutatakse lühendit Sir, seda ka saksa keeles. Kindlasti on käes aeg, mil tuleks uuesti läbi mõelda lühendamine ja viitamine ka eesti keeles, eriti tulevikus tehtavate tõlgete puhul, mis võiksid tugineda heebreakeelsele tekstile. Antud artiklis on siiski kasutatud eesti keeles seni kasutusel olnud autori ja teose nimekuju.
Ühest küljest võib mõista autori nime täpse kuju problematiseerimist tühise aruteluna (…what’s in a name? that which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet), samas tuleb seda vaadelda kontekstis. Esiteks võib teose sidumist konkreetse autoriga pidada teose kaanonisse kuulumise seisukohalt saatuslikuks. Kui raamatut oleks seostatud mõne varasema kuulsa nimega nagu Saalomon või Taavet, oleks see kindlasti suurendanud kaanonisse kuulumise tõenäosust. Teiseks tuleb siin arvestada teoloogilist kaalu, mille Jeesus Siirak paneb nimele:
„Tühine on inimene oma kehas,
aga vaga nimi tõepoolest ei hävine“ (44:11).
Karda nime pärast, sest see püsib sinuga,
rohkem kui tuhat tarkuse varamut:
eluea soosing – loetud päevad,
nime soosing – päevad pole loetud (41:12–13).
Kuigi juhuslikud vihjed „heale nimele“ esinevad ka Õp-s (10:5; 22:1), pole see seal oluline teemaarendus. Jack T. Sanders toob välja, et ainuke teos, milles leiab sarnast nime väärtustamist on Papyrus Insinger (Sanders 1983, 94). „Hea nimi“ täidab Srk-s elu motiveerivat rolli (15:6; 37:26; 39:9–11; 41:11–13; 44:14). Seepärast võib Srk-s leida sedavõrd mahuka osa, milles ülistatakse esiisasid: Laus Patrum (Srk 44–50). Ülistuse kulminatsiooniks on ülempreester Simeoni panegüürika, Srk 50:1–24. Kui varasemad VT autorid on tunnistanud Jumala tegevust läbi inimeste, ülistab Srk siin inimesi endid. Arvatakse, et selles võib leida hellenistlikke mõjutusi. Thomas R. Lee toob välja, et Srk esiisade ülistus baseerub kreeka enkoomiumil. Enkoomiumi üheks tavapärasemaks kasutusviisiks oli nende ülistamine, kes olid surnud (Corley 2008a, 153). Iisraeli varasemate ja hilisemate kangelaste meenutamine Srk-s ei ürita pakkuda lohutust surmajärgse elu kaudu, vaid järglase ja hea nime (kuulsus) kaudu:
Kreeka tõlke mõju nimevormile on võimalik tajuda ka eestikeelsetes tõlgetes, mis baseeruvad kreekakeelsel tekstil ning esitlevad teose autorit kui Jeesus Siirakit, mitte Sirat, samuti on traditsiooniks kasutada lühendit „Srk“. Siin on kindlasti tajuda saksa keeleruumi mõju, kus on kasutusel kreekapärane nimetus Sirach. Kaasaegsed uurijad eristavad Sirach’it, mis viitab teosele, ja Sira’t, mis viitab autorile; rahvusvaheliselt kasutatakse lühendit Sir, seda ka saksa keeles. Kindlasti on käes aeg, mil tuleks uuesti läbi mõelda lühendamine ja viitamine ka eesti keeles, eriti tulevikus tehtavate tõlgete puhul, mis võiksid tugineda heebreakeelsele tekstile. Antud artiklis on siiski kasutatud eesti keeles seni kasutusel olnud autori ja teose nimekuju.
Ühest küljest võib mõista autori nime täpse kuju problematiseerimist tühise aruteluna (…what’s in a name? that which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet), samas tuleb seda vaadelda kontekstis. Esiteks võib teose sidumist konkreetse autoriga pidada teose kaanonisse kuulumise seisukohalt saatuslikuks. Kui raamatut oleks seostatud mõne varasema kuulsa nimega nagu Saalomon või Taavet, oleks see kindlasti suurendanud kaanonisse kuulumise tõenäosust. Teiseks tuleb siin arvestada teoloogilist kaalu, mille Jeesus Siirak paneb nimele:
„Tühine on inimene oma kehas,
aga vaga nimi tõepoolest ei hävine“ (44:11).
Karda nime pärast, sest see püsib sinuga,
rohkem kui tuhat tarkuse varamut:
eluea soosing – loetud päevad,
nime soosing – päevad pole loetud (41:12–13).
Kuigi juhuslikud vihjed „heale nimele“ esinevad ka Õp-s (10:5; 22:1), pole see seal oluline teemaarendus. Jack T. Sanders toob välja, et ainuke teos, milles leiab sarnast nime väärtustamist on Papyrus Insinger (Sanders 1983, 94). „Hea nimi“ täidab Srk-s elu motiveerivat rolli (15:6; 37:26; 39:9–11; 41:11–13; 44:14). Seepärast võib Srk-s leida sedavõrd mahuka osa, milles ülistatakse esiisasid: Laus Patrum (Srk 44–50). Ülistuse kulminatsiooniks on ülempreester Simeoni panegüürika, Srk 50:1–24. Kui varasemad VT autorid on tunnistanud Jumala tegevust läbi inimeste, ülistab Srk siin inimesi endid. Arvatakse, et selles võib leida hellenistlikke mõjutusi. Thomas R. Lee toob välja, et Srk esiisade ülistus baseerub kreeka enkoomiumil. Enkoomiumi üheks tavapärasemaks kasutusviisiks oli nende ülistamine, kes olid surnud (Corley 2008a, 153). Iisraeli varasemate ja hilisemate kangelaste meenutamine Srk-s ei ürita pakkuda lohutust surmajärgse elu kaudu, vaid järglase ja hea nime (kuulsus) kaudu:
23 April 2018 02:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Heebreakeelsete käsikirjade ning kreeka- (G), süüria- (S) ja ladinakeelsete (V) tõlgete võrdlemisel on jõutud arusaamisele, et algselt on eksisteerinud kaks heebreakeelset Srk korpust, HbI ja HbII. HbII puhul on tegemist heebrea traditsiooni kuuluva tekstivormiga, mille kujunemise algus kuulub Jeesus Siiraki pojapoja teostatud kreekakeelse tõlke järgsesse perioodi. Ka kreekakeelses tekstis eristatakse kahte algkorpust: GI, mille tegi pojapoeg, ja GII, mis on GI laiendatud versioon. HbII ja GII lisanduste tegemine jääb Maurice Gilbert’i hinnangul vahemikku 80 eKr ja 80 pKr (Gilbert 2008, 7–13). Süüriakeelse tõlke suurim väärtus seisneb asjaolus, et see pärineb otse heebrea keelest, tõenäoliselt oli aluseks HbII (Calduch-Benages / Ferrer / Liesen 2003, 39). Srk vanaladinakeelse tõlke aluseks on kreekakeelne GII. Seega pakub Srk uurimine tõsiseid keelelisi väljakutseid, aga ka naudinguid. Võrdsel tasemel peavad olema nii heebrea, kreeka, süüria kui ka ladina keele oskus. Nii huvist kui ühtlasi ka uurimistöö piiritlemiseks valivad Srk uurijad analüüsimiseks sageli vaid ühe versiooni. See ei vabasta siiski teistes keeltes versioonidest. Kuna mahukamad heebreakeelsed käsikirjad pärinevad keskajast ja vaatamata sellele, et neis on püsinud klassikalise heebrea keele süntaks, peab valmis olema ka aramea ja araabia keele grammatilisteks üllatusteks.
Raamatu autorist ja nime väärtusest
Jeesus Siiraki pojapojale omistatava kreekakeelse teksti proloogi alusel võib öelda, et kreekakeelne tõlge teostati umbes 117. a eKr, ja tuletada sellest, et algse, heebreakeelse Srk valmimine asetub umbes 180. a-sse eKr. Selline täpne dateerimine on erandlik, kui pidada silmas VT ja seotud kirjanduse heebrea- ja kreekakeelseid tekste. Kreekakeelsest tõlkest jääb mõneti selgusetuks, kas tegemist oli ikka tõlgi vanaisaga, kuna termin páppos võib ühtlasi tähistada ka esiisa. Paljud teadlased peavad vähetõenäoliseks, et ajal, mil inimeste eluiga oli tunduvalt lühem ja lapsi saadi varakult, võis vanaisa ja pojapoja vanusevahe olla 60 aastat (arvutus proloogi alusel). Samas ei pruugi see olla piisavalt veenev argument. Pigem on küsitav, kas tõlgi puhul oli üldse tegemist sugulasega. Perekondlik seostamine proloogis võib olla katse tõsta tõlke usaldatavust (Marttila 2012, 7).
Tõenäoliselt polnud Jeesus Siiraki puhul tegemist preestriga, vaid vaga kirjatargaga, kes pühendas end õpetamisele. Teda on isegi nimetatud viimaseks targaks meheks Iisraelis ja esimeseks kirjatargaks (Skehan / Di Lella 1987, 10). Tema toetus preestritele ja templile kui juudi elu kesksele institutsioonile väljendub Srk 50. peatükis, preester Simeon II ülistuses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirach
Raamatu autorist ja nime väärtusest
Jeesus Siiraki pojapojale omistatava kreekakeelse teksti proloogi alusel võib öelda, et kreekakeelne tõlge teostati umbes 117. a eKr, ja tuletada sellest, et algse, heebreakeelse Srk valmimine asetub umbes 180. a-sse eKr. Selline täpne dateerimine on erandlik, kui pidada silmas VT ja seotud kirjanduse heebrea- ja kreekakeelseid tekste. Kreekakeelsest tõlkest jääb mõneti selgusetuks, kas tegemist oli ikka tõlgi vanaisaga, kuna termin páppos võib ühtlasi tähistada ka esiisa. Paljud teadlased peavad vähetõenäoliseks, et ajal, mil inimeste eluiga oli tunduvalt lühem ja lapsi saadi varakult, võis vanaisa ja pojapoja vanusevahe olla 60 aastat (arvutus proloogi alusel). Samas ei pruugi see olla piisavalt veenev argument. Pigem on küsitav, kas tõlgi puhul oli üldse tegemist sugulasega. Perekondlik seostamine proloogis võib olla katse tõsta tõlke usaldatavust (Marttila 2012, 7).
Tõenäoliselt polnud Jeesus Siiraki puhul tegemist preestriga, vaid vaga kirjatargaga, kes pühendas end õpetamisele. Teda on isegi nimetatud viimaseks targaks meheks Iisraelis ja esimeseks kirjatargaks (Skehan / Di Lella 1987, 10). Tema toetus preestritele ja templile kui juudi elu kesksele institutsioonile väljendub Srk 50. peatükis, preester Simeon II ülistuses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirach
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirach
23 April 2018 02:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
once more:
The Law of Moses
In Biblical times, the Law of Moses (also called Old Testament Law, Mosaic Law, or just The Law) regulated almost every aspect of Jewish life. The Ten Commandments and many other laws defined matters of morals, religious practice and government. It regulated the army, criminal justice, commerce, property rights, slavery, sexual relations, marriage and social interactions. It required circumcision for males, animal sacrifices, and strict Sabbath observance. It provided for the welfare of widows, orphans, the poor, foreigners and domestic animals. Ceremonial rules divided animals into "clean" and "unclean" categories. Clean animals could be eaten; unclean animals could not.
The Law of Moses was given to the Israelites when they were still a band of ex-slaves struggling to survive. Many of the laws were specific for the worship system and agricultural life of ancient Israel (Exodus 12:14-16, Leviticus 1:10-13, 11:1-23, 15:19-20, 19:19, 19:27-28, 27:30-32, Deuteronomy 25:5-6). Like life in those times, many were harsh and cruel compared to the teachings of Jesus (Exodus 35:2, Deuteronomy 20:10-14, 21:18-21, 22:23-24). But there are also many moral teachings that form the basis of Christian morality (Exodus 20:1-17, 23:6-9, Leviticus 19:9-10, 19:18, Deuteronomy 6:5).
The Teachings of Jesus
By the time of Jesus, the great moral principles God had given to Moses in the Ten Commandments had been turned into hundreds of ceremonial rules. People thought they were living holy lives if they just obeyed all those rules. But Jesus disagreed. He said people found enough "loopholes" to obey all the rules and still live wicked and greedy lives (Matthew 23:23-28).
Jesus made one statement about the Law that often causes confusion:
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (NIV, Matthew 5:17–18)
// We Trouble about this, but not about the Matthew 10:34 ???
The Law of Moses
In Biblical times, the Law of Moses (also called Old Testament Law, Mosaic Law, or just The Law) regulated almost every aspect of Jewish life. The Ten Commandments and many other laws defined matters of morals, religious practice and government. It regulated the army, criminal justice, commerce, property rights, slavery, sexual relations, marriage and social interactions. It required circumcision for males, animal sacrifices, and strict Sabbath observance. It provided for the welfare of widows, orphans, the poor, foreigners and domestic animals. Ceremonial rules divided animals into "clean" and "unclean" categories. Clean animals could be eaten; unclean animals could not.
The Law of Moses was given to the Israelites when they were still a band of ex-slaves struggling to survive. Many of the laws were specific for the worship system and agricultural life of ancient Israel (Exodus 12:14-16, Leviticus 1:10-13, 11:1-23, 15:19-20, 19:19, 19:27-28, 27:30-32, Deuteronomy 25:5-6). Like life in those times, many were harsh and cruel compared to the teachings of Jesus (Exodus 35:2, Deuteronomy 20:10-14, 21:18-21, 22:23-24). But there are also many moral teachings that form the basis of Christian morality (Exodus 20:1-17, 23:6-9, Leviticus 19:9-10, 19:18, Deuteronomy 6:5).
The Teachings of Jesus
By the time of Jesus, the great moral principles God had given to Moses in the Ten Commandments had been turned into hundreds of ceremonial rules. People thought they were living holy lives if they just obeyed all those rules. But Jesus disagreed. He said people found enough "loopholes" to obey all the rules and still live wicked and greedy lives (Matthew 23:23-28).
Jesus made one statement about the Law that often causes confusion:
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (NIV, Matthew 5:17–18)
// We Trouble about this, but not about the Matthew 10:34 ???
23 April 2018 02:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
@same time:
What did Jesus mean by, "Not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished?"
What did Jesus mean by, "Not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished?"
23 April 2018 02:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Council of Jerusalem
The first Christians came from among the Jews, and they continued to observe the Law of Moses as well as their new Christian faith. But as more and more Gentiles (non-Jews) converted to Christianity, there were disputes about whether or not these Gentile Christians must observe the Law. Issues of circumcision and diet were especially troublesome and threatened to split Christianity apart.
In about the year 49 A.D., Peter, Paul, Barnabas, James and other Christian leaders met in Jerusalem to settle the issue (Acts 15:1-29). It was agreed, with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, that nothing was required of the Gentile converts except faith in Christ; they were not bound by the Law of Moses. However, the council directed the Gentile Christians to abstain from certain things that were particularly offensive to their Jewish brethren - food sacrificed to idols, blood, meat of strangled animals and sexual immorality (Acts 15:29).
The New Covenant
With the coming of Christ, God has established a new covenant with mankind (Jeremiah 31:31-34, Luke 22:20, 1 Corinthians 11:25, Hebrews 8:8-13, 9:11-15). Jesus and His apostles gave us a radically new understanding of the true intent of the Old Testament Law; they brought a new era of the rule of love for all people and spiritual truth instead of rule by law (Luke 10:25-28, John 13:34-35, Ephesians 2:14-18).
However, God has not revoked His original covenant with Israel and the Jewish people (Luke 1:72, Acts 3:25, Romans 9:4-5, 11:26-29, Galatians 3:17). The New Covenant does not condemn the Jews, nor does it in any way justify persecution of Jews.
Conclusion
The teachings of Jesus, the Council of Jerusalem, and other New Testament teachings (John 1:16-17, Acts 13:39, Romans 2:25-29, 8:1-4, 1 Corinthians 9:19-21, Galatians 2:15-16, Ephesians 2:15) make it clear that Christians are not required to follow the Old Testament rules about crimes and punishments, warfare, slavery, diet, circumcision, animal sacrifices, feast days, Sabbath observance, ritual cleanness, etc.
Christians still look to the Old Testament scripture for moral and spiritual guidance (2 Timothy 3:16-17). But when there seems to be a conflict between Old Testament laws and New Testament principles, we must follow the New Testament because it represents the most recent and most perfect revelation from God (Hebrews 8:13, 2 Corinthians 3:1-18, Galatians 2:15-20).
However, freedom from the Old Testament Law is not a license for Christians to relax their moral standards. The moral and ethical teachings of Jesus and His apostles call for even greater self-discipline than those of the Old Testament (Matthew 5:21-22, 27-28, 31-32, 33-34, 38-42, 43-48, 7:1-5, 15:18-19, 25:37-40, Mark 7:21-23, 12:28-31, Luke 12:15, 1 Corinthians 13:1-13, Galatians 5:19-21, James 1:27, 2:15-16, 1 John 3:17-19).
Christian Practice
Here are a few examples of Old Testament laws that Christians generally do not observe:
Prohibited foods
Pork (Leviticus 11:7)
Certain other animals (Leviticus 11:4-6)
Shellfish (Leviticus 11:10)
Certain birds (Leviticus 11:13-19)
Certain insects (Leviticus 11:20-23)
Meat still containing blood (Leviticus 17:12)
Circumcision required for males on eighth day (Leviticus 12:1-3)
The death penalty for:
Attacking or cursing a parent (Exodus 21:15,17)
Disobedience to parents (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)
Failure to confine a dangerous animal, resulting in death (Exodus 21:28-29)
Witchcraft and sorcery (Exodus 22:18, Leviticus 20:27, Deuteronomy 13:5, 1 Samuel 28:9)
Sex with an animal (Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:16)
Doing work on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14, 35:2, Numbers 15:32-36)
Incest (Leviticus 18:6-18, 20:11-12,14,17,19-21)
Adultery (Leviticus 20:10; Deuteronomy 22:22)
Homosexual acts (Leviticus 20:13)
Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:14,16, 23)
False prophecy (Deuteronomy 18:20)
False claim of a woman's virginity at time of marriage (Deuteronomy 22:13-21)
Sex between a woman pledged to be married and a man other than her betrothed (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)
Feast day observances required:
Feast of Lots (Purim) (Esther 9:28)
Passover (Pesach) (Deuteronomy 16:1-8)
Feast of Weeks or Pentecost (Shavuot) (Leviticus 23:15-21)
Feast of Trumpets or New Year Festival (Rosh Hashanah) (Leviticus 23:23-25)
Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) (Leviticus 16:29-32)
Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot) (Leviticus 23:39-43)
Saturday (seventh day) Sabbath observance (Exodus 20:8-11, Exodus 35:1-3)
Animal sacrifices
For sin (Leviticus 4:27-35)
For Passover (Exodus 12:3-11)
The first Christians came from among the Jews, and they continued to observe the Law of Moses as well as their new Christian faith. But as more and more Gentiles (non-Jews) converted to Christianity, there were disputes about whether or not these Gentile Christians must observe the Law. Issues of circumcision and diet were especially troublesome and threatened to split Christianity apart.
In about the year 49 A.D., Peter, Paul, Barnabas, James and other Christian leaders met in Jerusalem to settle the issue (Acts 15:1-29). It was agreed, with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, that nothing was required of the Gentile converts except faith in Christ; they were not bound by the Law of Moses. However, the council directed the Gentile Christians to abstain from certain things that were particularly offensive to their Jewish brethren - food sacrificed to idols, blood, meat of strangled animals and sexual immorality (Acts 15:29).
The New Covenant
With the coming of Christ, God has established a new covenant with mankind (Jeremiah 31:31-34, Luke 22:20, 1 Corinthians 11:25, Hebrews 8:8-13, 9:11-15). Jesus and His apostles gave us a radically new understanding of the true intent of the Old Testament Law; they brought a new era of the rule of love for all people and spiritual truth instead of rule by law (Luke 10:25-28, John 13:34-35, Ephesians 2:14-18).
However, God has not revoked His original covenant with Israel and the Jewish people (Luke 1:72, Acts 3:25, Romans 9:4-5, 11:26-29, Galatians 3:17). The New Covenant does not condemn the Jews, nor does it in any way justify persecution of Jews.
Conclusion
The teachings of Jesus, the Council of Jerusalem, and other New Testament teachings (John 1:16-17, Acts 13:39, Romans 2:25-29, 8:1-4, 1 Corinthians 9:19-21, Galatians 2:15-16, Ephesians 2:15) make it clear that Christians are not required to follow the Old Testament rules about crimes and punishments, warfare, slavery, diet, circumcision, animal sacrifices, feast days, Sabbath observance, ritual cleanness, etc.
Christians still look to the Old Testament scripture for moral and spiritual guidance (2 Timothy 3:16-17). But when there seems to be a conflict between Old Testament laws and New Testament principles, we must follow the New Testament because it represents the most recent and most perfect revelation from God (Hebrews 8:13, 2 Corinthians 3:1-18, Galatians 2:15-20).
However, freedom from the Old Testament Law is not a license for Christians to relax their moral standards. The moral and ethical teachings of Jesus and His apostles call for even greater self-discipline than those of the Old Testament (Matthew 5:21-22, 27-28, 31-32, 33-34, 38-42, 43-48, 7:1-5, 15:18-19, 25:37-40, Mark 7:21-23, 12:28-31, Luke 12:15, 1 Corinthians 13:1-13, Galatians 5:19-21, James 1:27, 2:15-16, 1 John 3:17-19).
Christian Practice
Here are a few examples of Old Testament laws that Christians generally do not observe:
Prohibited foods
Pork (Leviticus 11:7)
Certain other animals (Leviticus 11:4-6)
Shellfish (Leviticus 11:10)
Certain birds (Leviticus 11:13-19)
Certain insects (Leviticus 11:20-23)
Meat still containing blood (Leviticus 17:12)
Circumcision required for males on eighth day (Leviticus 12:1-3)
The death penalty for:
Attacking or cursing a parent (Exodus 21:15,17)
Disobedience to parents (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)
Failure to confine a dangerous animal, resulting in death (Exodus 21:28-29)
Witchcraft and sorcery (Exodus 22:18, Leviticus 20:27, Deuteronomy 13:5, 1 Samuel 28:9)
Sex with an animal (Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:16)
Doing work on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14, 35:2, Numbers 15:32-36)
Incest (Leviticus 18:6-18, 20:11-12,14,17,19-21)
Adultery (Leviticus 20:10; Deuteronomy 22:22)
Homosexual acts (Leviticus 20:13)
Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:14,16, 23)
False prophecy (Deuteronomy 18:20)
False claim of a woman's virginity at time of marriage (Deuteronomy 22:13-21)
Sex between a woman pledged to be married and a man other than her betrothed (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)
Feast day observances required:
Feast of Lots (Purim) (Esther 9:28)
Passover (Pesach) (Deuteronomy 16:1-8)
Feast of Weeks or Pentecost (Shavuot) (Leviticus 23:15-21)
Feast of Trumpets or New Year Festival (Rosh Hashanah) (Leviticus 23:23-25)
Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) (Leviticus 16:29-32)
Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot) (Leviticus 23:39-43)
Saturday (seventh day) Sabbath observance (Exodus 20:8-11, Exodus 35:1-3)
Animal sacrifices
For sin (Leviticus 4:27-35)
For Passover (Exodus 12:3-11)
23 April 2018 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
To Balence:
http://www.christianbiblereference.org/faq_OldTestamentLaw.htm
Jesus made one statement about the Law that often causes confusion:
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (NIV, Matthew 5:17–18)
Christians have struggled to understand exactly what Jesus meant. At first reading, this seems to say that all the Old Testament rules and rituals must still be observed. But Jesus and His disciples did not observe many of those rules and rituals, so it could not mean that.
It is frequently pointed out that the term "the Law" could have many different meanings at the time of Jesus:1,2
The ceremonial laws including "clean" and "unclean" lists, sacrifices, dietary restrictions, ritual washings, etc.
The civil law regulating social behavior and specifying crimes, punishments and other rules
The moral and ethical laws, such as the Ten Commandments
The Pentateuch (the first 5 books of the Bible)
The scribal law - the 613 rules (mitzvot) formulated by the scribes that everyone was expected to obey
The Scripture as a whole
Jesus did not abolish the moral and ethical laws that had been in effect from the time of Moses. He affirmed and expanded upon those principles, but He said obedience must be from the heart (attitudes and intentions) rather than just technical observance of the letter of the law (Matthew 5:21-22, 27-28, 31-32, 33-34, 38-42, 43-44, etc.).
However, Jesus and His disciples did not observe the strict scribal rules against doing any work on the Sabbath (Matthew 12:1-14, Mark 2:23-28, 3:1-6, Luke 6:1-11, 13:10-17, 14:1-6, John 5:1-18). Neither did they perform the ritual hand washings before eating (Matthew 15:1-2). In contrast to the dietary rules of the Law, Jesus said no food can defile a person; it is bad attitudes and actions that can make a person unholy (Matthew 15:1-20, Mark 7:1-23). Jesus frequently criticized the scribal laws (Matthew 23:23, Mark 7:11-13) and some aspects of the civil law (John 8:3-5, 10-11).
Therefore, Jesus may have been specifically teaching that the moral and ethical laws in the Scripture would endure until the end of time. That would be consistent with His actions and other teachings. Through His teachings and actions, Jesus revealed the true meaning and intent of the Law.
It is also pointed out that Jesus, Himself, is the fulfillment of the Law (Matthew 26:28, Mark 10:45, Luke 16:16, John 1:16, Acts 10:28, 13:39, Romans 10:4) The sacrifice of Jesus on the cross ended forever the need for animal sacrifices and other aspects of the ceremonial law.
http://www.christianbiblereference.org/faq_OldTestamentLaw.htm
Jesus made one statement about the Law that often causes confusion:
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (NIV, Matthew 5:17–18)
Christians have struggled to understand exactly what Jesus meant. At first reading, this seems to say that all the Old Testament rules and rituals must still be observed. But Jesus and His disciples did not observe many of those rules and rituals, so it could not mean that.
It is frequently pointed out that the term "the Law" could have many different meanings at the time of Jesus:1,2
The ceremonial laws including "clean" and "unclean" lists, sacrifices, dietary restrictions, ritual washings, etc.
The civil law regulating social behavior and specifying crimes, punishments and other rules
The moral and ethical laws, such as the Ten Commandments
The Pentateuch (the first 5 books of the Bible)
The scribal law - the 613 rules (mitzvot) formulated by the scribes that everyone was expected to obey
The Scripture as a whole
Jesus did not abolish the moral and ethical laws that had been in effect from the time of Moses. He affirmed and expanded upon those principles, but He said obedience must be from the heart (attitudes and intentions) rather than just technical observance of the letter of the law (Matthew 5:21-22, 27-28, 31-32, 33-34, 38-42, 43-44, etc.).
However, Jesus and His disciples did not observe the strict scribal rules against doing any work on the Sabbath (Matthew 12:1-14, Mark 2:23-28, 3:1-6, Luke 6:1-11, 13:10-17, 14:1-6, John 5:1-18). Neither did they perform the ritual hand washings before eating (Matthew 15:1-2). In contrast to the dietary rules of the Law, Jesus said no food can defile a person; it is bad attitudes and actions that can make a person unholy (Matthew 15:1-20, Mark 7:1-23). Jesus frequently criticized the scribal laws (Matthew 23:23, Mark 7:11-13) and some aspects of the civil law (John 8:3-5, 10-11).
Therefore, Jesus may have been specifically teaching that the moral and ethical laws in the Scripture would endure until the end of time. That would be consistent with His actions and other teachings. Through His teachings and actions, Jesus revealed the true meaning and intent of the Law.
It is also pointed out that Jesus, Himself, is the fulfillment of the Law (Matthew 26:28, Mark 10:45, Luke 16:16, John 1:16, Acts 10:28, 13:39, Romans 10:4) The sacrifice of Jesus on the cross ended forever the need for animal sacrifices and other aspects of the ceremonial law.
http://www.christianbiblereference.org/faq_OldTestamentLaw.htm
23 April 2018 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
Desperaado kohe kohal varsti
katust pakkuma
siis kohtab maaomanikke..
https://www.facebook.com/DesperadoEhitus/?ref=py_c
katust pakkuma
siis kohtab maaomanikke..
https://www.facebook.com/DesperadoEhitus/?ref=py_c
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Desperado ehitus OÜ
23 April 2018 01:52
Margus Meigo commented on Sotsiaaldemokraatlikud Meemid's photo.
neeed vist ühed teised rohelised mehikesed millest vahepeal meedias räägiti
23 April 2018 01:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sotsiaaldemokraatlikud Meemid ma ei saa aru kas sa oled Debiilik või lihtsalt trollid ja teed nalja ?
23 April 2018 01:48
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
Töö muidugi ka sellpärst oli, et vanglakaristus otsene oli neile kes ei soovinud orjalaagris tööd teha,
need kes veel eriti ülbed olid ja oma kodus soovisid tööd teha ja talu üles ehitada iseseisvaks eluks..selleasemel, et kolhoosi põllul tolgendada, neende osas koputati ja plaanid kohe Siberi tuusikusse pandi kirja..
need kes veel eriti ülbed olid ja oma kodus soovisid tööd teha ja talu üles ehitada iseseisvaks eluks..selleasemel, et kolhoosi põllul tolgendada, neende osas koputati ja plaanid kohe Siberi tuusikusse pandi kirja..
23 April 2018 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
Mu ema rääkis, et veneajal kui ta oma trussereid pidevalt nöörile pani, sest üle päeva normaalne naine samade trusseritega ei käi eks.. nu ja siis vene naabermutti oldud kuuldud rääkima, imestades miks teine nii tihti peseb: "See Merle on ikka üks must naine.."
23 April 2018 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
Marko Karin sinumoodi muss :D
23 April 2018 01:34
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
tra liiga õudne :D
23 April 2018 01:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
need võiksid niisama üksteisel lahti hõõruda,
suhtele parem ja vähem huinjaad hiljem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyPCDSuAjKc&t=173s
suhtele parem ja vähem huinjaad hiljem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyPCDSuAjKc&t=173s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyPCDSuAjKc&t=173s
23 April 2018 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
kes kardavad rasedaks jääda ja söövad igast pille sisse omale, pole veel kepivanuses
23 April 2018 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
mida fakki
23 April 2018 01:26
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
Nagu Ratas
https://www.facebook.com/MeilOnPohhuiMeOlemeVorust/videos/1052639284884499/
https://www.facebook.com/MeilOnPohhuiMeOlemeVorust/videos/1052639284884499/
23 April 2018 01:24
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's video.
Lahendus need kiusajad kambakaga kordamööda päevast päeva, metsa viia, ja korralik doos psühedeelikume (või kärbseseeni) anda, ja siis jätta nad tripialguses sinna üksi oma patuüle järgi mõtlema
23 April 2018 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
Allar Kaljundi :D
23 April 2018 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
hui,
see peaaegu nagu narko.ee promo :D
Coca kott on suurem kui purk ise :D
see peaaegu nagu narko.ee promo :D
Coca kott on suurem kui purk ise :D
23 April 2018 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
irw
23 April 2018 01:19
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
tänapäeva Rooma-Greeka pervopedede ühiskonna norm, (vaadake kes sääl kunagi eesotsas olid ja mileks nad selle ühiskonna voolida suutsid... ainuke vahe on, et nüüd nad pidutsevad privaatselt... kui just Rattaga tegu ple )
23 April 2018 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's video.
Nendele vendadele kes ise siledad kui munni kübar ja veel kannavad lipsu ka kui ketikoer, tuleks kohe sisse kütta, miskit mõistust,
vahest kui nad peale õpivad tegema saab neist isegi inimesed, ..lipsuorjusest aga loobuda lihtne pole..
vahest kui nad peale õpivad tegema saab neist isegi inimesed, ..lipsuorjusest aga loobuda lihtne pole..
23 April 2018 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
Sellised nad JUST näevad välja kui igast jama endale peale pannakse lõpuks...
Õige naine on ikka nii, kogu ilus, värvimata, originaal juuste ja muude karvadega,
Siis kasvab isiksus ka muidu sama niruks kisub isiksus ja sisu paljudel pikapeale kui selle kartuli nägu ..
Õige naine on ikka nii, kogu ilus, värvimata, originaal juuste ja muude karvadega,
Siis kasvab isiksus ka muidu sama niruks kisub isiksus ja sisu paljudel pikapeale kui selle kartuli nägu ..
23 April 2018 01:13
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
Tiia Tips Sul ka koerad nii (?)
// mitu korda ühte kaigast pean tooma..
// mitu korda ühte kaigast pean tooma..
23 April 2018 01:12
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
Andres Kalev Rebane maailma seiklused / Andreas Kõrgend Veenuse ja vabaduse vahel / Jevgeni Ossinovski & Jüri Ratas teemal "Alkopoliitika vs. Narkopoliitika" / Karl Uustal teemal kuidas kasulikku teha /
Ma ise võin teha teemal kuidas peale teha, ja oi.. neid inimesi palju
Ma ise võin teha teemal kuidas peale teha, ja oi.. neid inimesi palju
23 April 2018 01:10
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
ütles ratastoolis alkoholisõltuvusega impo mees vaestekodus kaktusega rääkides, telepaatiliselt
23 April 2018 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
:D :D :D Marge Karin
23 April 2018 00:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kõikides teistes aktiivsetes vestlustes muide see pole ühtegi vaatamist genereerinud, vaaataks, kas siin komuunis veel neid kelle meeled pole lukustatud,
kuid 390 vaatamise peal:
// see enese testiks ka, pole päris kindel kuidas seda tehakse, aga enamasti sedasi, et vaatamisi ei teki juurde. siiani kõikides kohtades nii suurtest kristlaste foorumist kuni node sarvikute komuunideni, nii teemas, kui teemast väljas, nii isiklikus kui lampi... aga eks näis, just sayng.
kuid 390 vaatamise peal:
// see enese testiks ka, pole päris kindel kuidas seda tehakse, aga enamasti sedasi, et vaatamisi ei teki juurde. siiani kõikides kohtades nii suurtest kristlaste foorumist kuni node sarvikute komuunideni, nii teemas, kui teemast väljas, nii isiklikus kui lampi... aga eks näis, just sayng.
23 April 2018 00:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
u know: https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377/
(arvestada, kes räägib)
(arvestada, kes räägib)
23 April 2018 00:53
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
Kuid lastele mõjuvad küll need asjad sedasi, nagu tolles auto tseenis:
https://youtu.be/fe4EK4HSPkI?t=256
(veel samalajal varjatuna kõlav "be hunted" ... kuid yeha... kun väiksena kui pole fluoriidi veel palju tarbitud, siis nähakse tulnukaid nii kuidas on...
ja siis ..ei märgata, et: https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377/ )
https://youtu.be/fe4EK4HSPkI?t=256
(veel samalajal varjatuna kõlav "be hunted" ... kuid yeha... kun väiksena kui pole fluoriidi veel palju tarbitud, siis nähakse tulnukaid nii kuidas on...
ja siis ..ei märgata, et: https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377/ )
https://youtu.be/fe4EK4HSPkI?t=256
23 April 2018 00:52
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
Kui sellistele vendadele ninna ei sõida varakult, siis kasvavad sellisteks kes hakkavad ühiskonda trukkima
23 April 2018 00:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid tripitakse igas mastaabis, Talibanist Rabbideni (kommentaaris, link)
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214780713968176
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214780713968176
23 April 2018 00:41
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's video.
Ei mäletagi millal ise nii kommis oleks olnud,
Kuid ratas saaab omanimelise tabla,
lasna laborid peaksid populaarsust kasutama kuni ratas veel veereb!
Rahavas jah, kõik suht nõustub: https://www.facebook.com/stenhansvihmar/posts/10213150847018029?comment_id=10213157089334083
Kuid ratas saaab omanimelise tabla,
lasna laborid peaksid populaarsust kasutama kuni ratas veel veereb!
Rahavas jah, kõik suht nõustub: https://www.facebook.com/stenhansvihmar/posts/10213150847018029?comment_id=10213157089334083
23 April 2018 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
See vend on ise kommis keset Istungit, millal aega tal näha :D
23 April 2018 00:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Olen isegi vestlusringis olnud, kus ülikooli haridusega hea keelemees, pani seltskonna uskuma, et nad ise ka sööksid inimest ja selles pole miskit veidrat., et lihtsalt proteiin ja praktilisus kui tarvis oleks...
Suht kreepy oli, sest inimesed nõustusid
Suht kreepy oli, sest inimesed nõustusid
23 April 2018 00:27
Margus Meigo commented on Jäporter's photo.
@ Same time in some remote part of africa:
Why can't we be equal, stop this segregation and eat all 3 ?
Why can't we be equal, stop this segregation and eat all 3 ?
23 April 2018 00:25
Margus Meigo commented on Janar Olen's video.
Siis Kui... Komm hakkab tööle:
https://www.facebook.com/SirKatatakashi/posts/1748819578514229
https://www.facebook.com/SirKatatakashi/posts/1748819578514229
23 April 2018 00:22
Margus Meigo commented on Sten-Hans Vihmar's video.
Siis kui Komm hakkab tööle:
https://www.facebook.com/SirKatatakashi/posts/1748819578514229
https://www.facebook.com/SirKatatakashi/posts/1748819578514229
23 April 2018 00:21
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Jup, the alocol corporations in co-operation with goverment to keep people devided while drunk so they will be unable to think practical solutions,
or exchange any meaningful data between one self
or exchange any meaningful data between one self
23 April 2018 00:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Rattas saab oma nimelise tabla-ratta nime varsti kui nii suur populaarsus tüübil, üle poole milli vaatamisi eri videode pealt kokku kindlasti juba
Kuid.. nimi ongi tal juba olemas, siin pole vaja juurde miskit lisada, rahvas kommides ka nõustub
https://www.facebook.com/stenhansvihmar/posts/10213150847018029?comment_id=10213157089334083
Kuid.. nimi ongi tal juba olemas, siin pole vaja juurde miskit lisada, rahvas kommides ka nõustub
https://www.facebook.com/stenhansvihmar/posts/10213150847018029?comment_id=10213157089334083
23 April 2018 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Need vennad ikka nii teemas, kes neid asju teevad
(kommides Rabbideversioon ka)
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214780713968176
(kommides Rabbideversioon ka)
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214780713968176
23 April 2018 00:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Estonian Version, right in Riigikogu :
https://www.facebook.com/SirKatatakashi/posts/1748819578514229
RK riigikaitsekomisjon / Riigi Ilmateenistus ..mis ilm on kas pilvitab
https://www.facebook.com/SirKatatakashi/posts/1748819578514229
RK riigikaitsekomisjon / Riigi Ilmateenistus ..mis ilm on kas pilvitab
23 April 2018 00:06
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
xD xD xD Liiga hea
23 April 2018 00:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oih.. hilja juba...
22 April 2018 23:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jesus would have heard his Scriptures in Hebrew, perhaps accompanied by an Aramaic paraphrase (targum). However, New Testament quotations from the Hebrew Bible usually follow the Greek of the Septuagint. For example, Isa 7:14 (written circa 700 B.C.E.) describes a pregnant young woman (Hebrew ’almah). The Greek translates ’almah as parthenos, which came to mean virgin (as in the Parthenon), and Matt 1:23, following the Greek, does the same. Ps 37:11 states, “the meek shall inherit the land” (Hebrew, arets); the Greek, echoed in Matt 5:5, shifts focus away from the land of Israel, and in this version “the meek … will inherit the earth.”
Because the consonantal Hebrew text lacked punctuation, phrase breaks could be variously inserted. The Hebrew of Isa 40:3 predicts the return to Israel of the exiles in Babylon: “A voice cries out: ‘In the wilderness prepare the way of the Lord.’” The Gospel of Mark repunctuates this same passage to introduce John the Baptist: “The voice of one crying out in the wilderness, ‘Prepare the way of the Lord’” (Mark 1:3).
Interpretations of figures and images create yet another distinction between the (Christian) Old Testament and the (Jewish) Tanakh. For example, the Christian church understands Isaiah’s “suffering servant” (Isa 53:5-7) to be Jesus (Acts 8:3-36, John 19:34-37). In the synagogue, traditionally, the servant is Israel (see Isa 41:8, Isa 44:1, Isa 44:21, Isa 49:3); rabbinic sources also associate the servant with Moses, Rabbi Akiva, and a hidden Messiah who suffers from leprosy.
Differences in canonical order further create distinct interpretations. The Old Testament tucks Ruth between Judges and 1 Samuel; the book fits here chronologically, because Ruth is King David’s great-grandmother, and David is introduced in 1 Samuel. The Tanakh places Ruth in the Ketuvim (Writings), where her scroll (Hebrew, megillah) accompanies the Song of Songs, Lamentations, Qohelet (Ecclesiastes), and Esther. These scrolls are read, in full, on certain Jewish holidays; thus they have a more prominent place in the canon of Judaism than they do in the Christian canons.
Readers of the Old Testament know that it ends with the Prophets; the last book is Malachi, who predicts Elijah’s return before the “day of the Lord” (Mal 3:23-24 [Mal 4:5-6 in English]) or what came to be thought of as the messianic age. Tanakh readers know that the canonical division Nevi’im (Prophets) appears in the middle, followed by Ketuvim. Here, the last words fall to King Cyrus of Persia (2Chr 36:23), whose edict tells the Babylonian exiles, “Any one of you of all His people … let him go up” (JPS)—that is, go home. Thus the two canons tell a different story: the Old and New Testaments focus on salvation at the end-time, with the book of Revelation showing the rectification of the “fall” in Eden; the Tanakh speaks of returning to the homeland.
Finally, Jews and Christians read with different emphases. Judaism focuses on the Torah, which is read in its entirety in synagogues either annually or triennially. Each Torah reading is accompanied by a reading from the Prophets. Christian lectionaries focus on the Prophets, and the “Old Testament” selections are accompanied by New Testament readings. We even hear the texts differently. In most churches, the Bible is read in the vernacular; in the synagogue, it is chanted from the Hebrew.
Attention to the connections but also the differences between the Tanakh and the Old Testament allows us to respect the integrity of each tradition and to understand why we interpret texts differently.
Amy-Jill Levine, "What is the Difference between the Old Testament, the Tanakh, and the Hebrew Bible?", n.p. [cited 22 Apr 2018].
https://www.bibleodyssey.org/tools/contributors?ID={FA2774E8-4454-442D-8EE5-58C7259D72FF}#levine-amy-jill
Because the consonantal Hebrew text lacked punctuation, phrase breaks could be variously inserted. The Hebrew of Isa 40:3 predicts the return to Israel of the exiles in Babylon: “A voice cries out: ‘In the wilderness prepare the way of the Lord.’” The Gospel of Mark repunctuates this same passage to introduce John the Baptist: “The voice of one crying out in the wilderness, ‘Prepare the way of the Lord’” (Mark 1:3).
Interpretations of figures and images create yet another distinction between the (Christian) Old Testament and the (Jewish) Tanakh. For example, the Christian church understands Isaiah’s “suffering servant” (Isa 53:5-7) to be Jesus (Acts 8:3-36, John 19:34-37). In the synagogue, traditionally, the servant is Israel (see Isa 41:8, Isa 44:1, Isa 44:21, Isa 49:3); rabbinic sources also associate the servant with Moses, Rabbi Akiva, and a hidden Messiah who suffers from leprosy.
Differences in canonical order further create distinct interpretations. The Old Testament tucks Ruth between Judges and 1 Samuel; the book fits here chronologically, because Ruth is King David’s great-grandmother, and David is introduced in 1 Samuel. The Tanakh places Ruth in the Ketuvim (Writings), where her scroll (Hebrew, megillah) accompanies the Song of Songs, Lamentations, Qohelet (Ecclesiastes), and Esther. These scrolls are read, in full, on certain Jewish holidays; thus they have a more prominent place in the canon of Judaism than they do in the Christian canons.
Readers of the Old Testament know that it ends with the Prophets; the last book is Malachi, who predicts Elijah’s return before the “day of the Lord” (Mal 3:23-24 [Mal 4:5-6 in English]) or what came to be thought of as the messianic age. Tanakh readers know that the canonical division Nevi’im (Prophets) appears in the middle, followed by Ketuvim. Here, the last words fall to King Cyrus of Persia (2Chr 36:23), whose edict tells the Babylonian exiles, “Any one of you of all His people … let him go up” (JPS)—that is, go home. Thus the two canons tell a different story: the Old and New Testaments focus on salvation at the end-time, with the book of Revelation showing the rectification of the “fall” in Eden; the Tanakh speaks of returning to the homeland.
Finally, Jews and Christians read with different emphases. Judaism focuses on the Torah, which is read in its entirety in synagogues either annually or triennially. Each Torah reading is accompanied by a reading from the Prophets. Christian lectionaries focus on the Prophets, and the “Old Testament” selections are accompanied by New Testament readings. We even hear the texts differently. In most churches, the Bible is read in the vernacular; in the synagogue, it is chanted from the Hebrew.
Attention to the connections but also the differences between the Tanakh and the Old Testament allows us to respect the integrity of each tradition and to understand why we interpret texts differently.
Amy-Jill Levine, "What is the Difference between the Old Testament, the Tanakh, and the Hebrew Bible?", n.p. [cited 22 Apr 2018].
https://www.bibleodyssey.org/tools/contributors?ID={FA2774E8-4454-442D-8EE5-58C7259D72FF}#levine-amy-jill
https://www.bibleodyssey.org/tools/contributors?ID={FA2774E8-4454-442D-8EE5-58C7259D72FF}#levine-amy-jill
22 April 2018 23:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Am not focusing to a acurasy of text-facts, in this period, but the mentions
mostly (kolm hüüumärki, enamuse oma aasta kümnese profiili osas, kellegile kunagi arusaamaks, endalegi, kui arupeaks võtma ja kõike ainult otse vaatama hakkaks ühes dimensioonis lisa uuringuteta, arvestamata põhitõe konteksti ja suunda)
(Loodus, Naine, Looja)
Seened ka ;) // ilma, ei saa inimkond alata arusaama
https://youtu.be/WXKchtD8RLo?t=5337
mostly (kolm hüüumärki, enamuse oma aasta kümnese profiili osas, kellegile kunagi arusaamaks, endalegi, kui arupeaks võtma ja kõike ainult otse vaatama hakkaks ühes dimensioonis lisa uuringuteta, arvestamata põhitõe konteksti ja suunda)
(Loodus, Naine, Looja)
Seened ka ;) // ilma, ei saa inimkond alata arusaama
https://youtu.be/WXKchtD8RLo?t=5337
https://youtu.be/WXKchtD8RLo?t=5337
22 April 2018 23:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"The term Old Testament, with its implication that there must be a corresponding New Testament, suggests to some that Judaism’s Bible and by extension Judaism are outdated and incomplete. Well-intended academics thus offered Hebrew Bible as a neutral alternative. However, the new language confuses more than it clarifies by erasing distinctions between the Christian Old Testament and the Jewish Tanakh. It is understandable if Christians think the Old Testament and the Tanakh are one and the same thing, but a closer look reveals important distinctions. For example, Catholic, Anglican, and Orthodox Christian Old Testament canons include additional books, either written or preserved in Greek (Judith, Wisdom of Solomon, Maccabees, etc.), that are not in the Jewish canon. And some Orthodox communions only use the Greek translation of the Hebrew (the Septuagint)—which varies in word choices and length from the Masoretic (Hebrew) Text. The Christian Old Testament and the Jewish Tanakh are also distinct from each other in terms of punctuation, canonical order, and emphases."
https://www.bibleodyssey.org/en/tools/bible-basics/what-is-the-difference-between-the-old-testament-the-tanakh-and-the-hebrew-bible
https://www.bibleodyssey.org/en/tools/bible-basics/what-is-the-difference-between-the-old-testament-the-tanakh-and-the-hebrew-bible
https://www.bibleodyssey.org/en/tools/bible-basics/what-is-the-difference-between-the-old-testament-the-tanakh-and-the-hebrew-bible
22 April 2018 23:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ka meeletutele meeldiva elu, nii, et see meeletute ümberolevatele meeldiv oleks, ega meeletu enda nõudmise keskmejärgi siis meelega arukaid arututeks tegema saa hakata, et nad meeletutele meeldivamaks muutuks ja seeläbi usutava rahu oma hullus rahutuses leiavad, vaid ikka, kui siis, selgitada koos mõlemale, et kes on ringi sees ja kes ümber, ja kelle järgi käib järjepidevus tarkuse ja heaolu suunal
22 April 2018 23:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja pealegi, kas sellel nimel mitte kõige enam pügatud habemega pilte-ikoone ole? Mis pidi see minuga seotud...
ja pealegi... ma viin kokku peresi oma lõppplaanis...ja isegi vaenlastele, toon mõõga asemel paremaid lahendusi kui surm,
tekitame mõtetutele mõtestatud elu
ja pealegi... ma viin kokku peresi oma lõppplaanis...ja isegi vaenlastele, toon mõõga asemel paremaid lahendusi kui surm,
tekitame mõtetutele mõtestatud elu
22 April 2018 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Seega kui mulle nii öeldakse, et hei.. nagu J,
sis mul alati suur konfliktne peidetud ärritus tuleb, ühesküljest võiks arvata, et see heameelega teises mõttes aga nagu solvang,
sest ennast küll vähem üleolevaks pean
ja käskude järgsemaks ka
sis mul alati suur konfliktne peidetud ärritus tuleb, ühesküljest võiks arvata, et see heameelega teises mõttes aga nagu solvang,
sest ennast küll vähem üleolevaks pean
ja käskude järgsemaks ka
22 April 2018 23:00
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Tamm's comment.
ma igaksjuhuks mütsi söömist ei pakkunud, kuna mine tea...
..aga väärt asi mida tasub nüüd mõelda küll, arvestades kui "edukalt" siiani see misioon siin planeedi läinud on
..aga väärt asi mida tasub nüüd mõelda küll, arvestades kui "edukalt" siiani see misioon siin planeedi läinud on
22 April 2018 22:35
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
22 April 2018 22:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
..Judas Maccabaeus. He was one of the priestly line who, with his father and four brothers, rose up in revolt against the Syrian king...
They captured the attention of the Israelites, summoned them to follow them into battle, and in a series of pitched battles in which they were always an overwhelming minority, overthrew the power of the Syrian kings, captured Jerusalem, and cleansed the temple. The day they cleansed the temple was named the Day of Dedication, and it occurred on the 25th day of December. On that date Jews still celebrate the Feast of Dedication each year.
The Maccabees, who were of the Asmonean family, began a line of high priests known as the Asmonean Dynasty. Their sons, for about the next three or four generations, ruled as priests in Jerusalem, all the time having to defend themselves against the constant assaults of the Syrian army who tried to recapture the city and the temple. During the days of the Maccabees there was a temporary overthrow of foreign domination, which is why the Jews look back to this time and regard it with such tremendous veneration.
During this time, one of the Asmonean priests made a league with the rising power in the West, Rome. He signed a treaty with the Senate of Rome, providing for help in the event of Syrian attack. Though the treaty was made in all earnestness and sincerity, it was this pact which introduced Rome into the picture and history of Israel.
As the battles between the two opposing forces waged hotter and hotter, Rome was watchful. Finally, the Governor of Idumea, a man named Antipater and a descendant of Esau, made a pact with two other neighboring kings and attacked Jerusalem to try to overthrow the authority of the Asmonean high priest. This battle raged so fiercely that finally Pompey, the Roman general, who happened to have an army in Damascus at the time, was besought by both parties to come and intervene. One side had a little more money than the other, and persuaded by that logical argument, Pompey came down from Damascus, entered the city of Jerusalem -- again with terrible slaughter -- overthrew the city and captured it for Rome. That was in 63 B.C. From that time on, Palestine was under the authority and power of Rome.
Now Pompey and the Roman Senate appointed Antipater as the Procurator of Judea, and he in turn made his two sons kings of Galilee and Judea. The son who became king of Judea is known to us a Herod the Great. ("Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, wise men from the East came to Jerusalem saying, 'Where is he who has been born king of the Jews?'" (Matt. 2:1, 2)
Meanwhile, the pagan empires around had been deteriorating and disintegrating. Their religions had fallen upon evil days. The people were sick of the polytheism and emptiness of their pagan faiths. The Jews had gone through times of pressure and had failed in their efforts to re-establish themselves, and had given up all hope. There was a growing air of expectancy that the only hope they had left was the coming at last of the promised Messiah. In the East, the oriental empires had come to the place where the wisdom and knowledge of the past had disintegrated and they too were looking for something. When the moment came when the star arose over Bethlehem, the wise men of the East who were looking for an answer to their problems saw it immediately and came out to seek the One it pointed to. Thus, "when the time had fully come, God sent forth his Son."
It is amazing how God utilizes history to work out his purposes. Though we are living in the days that might be termed "the silence of God," when for almost 2,000 years there has been no inspired voice from God, we must look back -- even as they did during those 400 silent years -- upon the inspired record and realize that God has already said all that needs to be said, through the Old and New Testaments. God's purposes have not ended, for sure. He is working them out as fully now as he did in those days. Just as the world had come to a place of hopelessness then, and the One who would fulfill all their hopes came into their midst, so the world again is facing a time when despair is spreading widely across the earth. Hopelessness is rampant everywhere and in this time God is moving to bring to fulfillment all the prophetic words concerning the coming of his Son again into the world to establish his kingdom. How long? How close? Who knows? But what God has done in history, he will do again as we approach the end of "the silence of God."
Prayer:
Our Father, we are constantly encouraged as we see the fact that our faith is grounded upon historic things; that it touches history on every side. It is integrally related to life. We pray that our own faith may grow strong and be powerful as we see the despair around us, the shaking of foundations, the changing of that which has long been taken to be permanent, the overthrowing of empires and the rising of others. Lord, we are thankful that we may look to you and realize that you are the One who does not change. The One whose word is eternal. As the Lord Jesus himself said, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my word shall never pass away." We pray in Christ's name, Amen.
Title: The 400 Years between the Old and New Testaments
By: Ray C. Stedman
Series: Adventuring through the Bible
Scripture: None
Message No: 40
Catalog No: 240
Date: October 2, 1966
Corrections: June 28, 2002
Copyright 2009 by Elaine Stedman. This material is the property of Ray Stedman Ministries. It may be copied only in its entirety for circulation freely without charge.
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They captured the attention of the Israelites, summoned them to follow them into battle, and in a series of pitched battles in which they were always an overwhelming minority, overthrew the power of the Syrian kings, captured Jerusalem, and cleansed the temple. The day they cleansed the temple was named the Day of Dedication, and it occurred on the 25th day of December. On that date Jews still celebrate the Feast of Dedication each year.
The Maccabees, who were of the Asmonean family, began a line of high priests known as the Asmonean Dynasty. Their sons, for about the next three or four generations, ruled as priests in Jerusalem, all the time having to defend themselves against the constant assaults of the Syrian army who tried to recapture the city and the temple. During the days of the Maccabees there was a temporary overthrow of foreign domination, which is why the Jews look back to this time and regard it with such tremendous veneration.
During this time, one of the Asmonean priests made a league with the rising power in the West, Rome. He signed a treaty with the Senate of Rome, providing for help in the event of Syrian attack. Though the treaty was made in all earnestness and sincerity, it was this pact which introduced Rome into the picture and history of Israel.
As the battles between the two opposing forces waged hotter and hotter, Rome was watchful. Finally, the Governor of Idumea, a man named Antipater and a descendant of Esau, made a pact with two other neighboring kings and attacked Jerusalem to try to overthrow the authority of the Asmonean high priest. This battle raged so fiercely that finally Pompey, the Roman general, who happened to have an army in Damascus at the time, was besought by both parties to come and intervene. One side had a little more money than the other, and persuaded by that logical argument, Pompey came down from Damascus, entered the city of Jerusalem -- again with terrible slaughter -- overthrew the city and captured it for Rome. That was in 63 B.C. From that time on, Palestine was under the authority and power of Rome.
Now Pompey and the Roman Senate appointed Antipater as the Procurator of Judea, and he in turn made his two sons kings of Galilee and Judea. The son who became king of Judea is known to us a Herod the Great. ("Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, wise men from the East came to Jerusalem saying, 'Where is he who has been born king of the Jews?'" (Matt. 2:1, 2)
Meanwhile, the pagan empires around had been deteriorating and disintegrating. Their religions had fallen upon evil days. The people were sick of the polytheism and emptiness of their pagan faiths. The Jews had gone through times of pressure and had failed in their efforts to re-establish themselves, and had given up all hope. There was a growing air of expectancy that the only hope they had left was the coming at last of the promised Messiah. In the East, the oriental empires had come to the place where the wisdom and knowledge of the past had disintegrated and they too were looking for something. When the moment came when the star arose over Bethlehem, the wise men of the East who were looking for an answer to their problems saw it immediately and came out to seek the One it pointed to. Thus, "when the time had fully come, God sent forth his Son."
It is amazing how God utilizes history to work out his purposes. Though we are living in the days that might be termed "the silence of God," when for almost 2,000 years there has been no inspired voice from God, we must look back -- even as they did during those 400 silent years -- upon the inspired record and realize that God has already said all that needs to be said, through the Old and New Testaments. God's purposes have not ended, for sure. He is working them out as fully now as he did in those days. Just as the world had come to a place of hopelessness then, and the One who would fulfill all their hopes came into their midst, so the world again is facing a time when despair is spreading widely across the earth. Hopelessness is rampant everywhere and in this time God is moving to bring to fulfillment all the prophetic words concerning the coming of his Son again into the world to establish his kingdom. How long? How close? Who knows? But what God has done in history, he will do again as we approach the end of "the silence of God."
Prayer:
Our Father, we are constantly encouraged as we see the fact that our faith is grounded upon historic things; that it touches history on every side. It is integrally related to life. We pray that our own faith may grow strong and be powerful as we see the despair around us, the shaking of foundations, the changing of that which has long been taken to be permanent, the overthrowing of empires and the rising of others. Lord, we are thankful that we may look to you and realize that you are the One who does not change. The One whose word is eternal. As the Lord Jesus himself said, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my word shall never pass away." We pray in Christ's name, Amen.
Title: The 400 Years between the Old and New Testaments
By: Ray C. Stedman
Series: Adventuring through the Bible
Scripture: None
Message No: 40
Catalog No: 240
Date: October 2, 1966
Corrections: June 28, 2002
Copyright 2009 by Elaine Stedman. This material is the property of Ray Stedman Ministries. It may be copied only in its entirety for circulation freely without charge.
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22 April 2018 22:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"...He had two sons, one of whom succeeded him and reigned only a few years. When he died, his brother took the throne. This man, named Antiochus Epiphanes, became one of the most vicious and violent persecutors of the Jews ever known. In fact, he is often called the Antichrist of the Old Testament, since he fulfills some of the predictions of Daniel concerning the coming of one who would be "a contemptible person" and "a vile king." His name (which he modestly bestowed upon himself) means "Antiochus the Illustrious." Nevertheless, some of his own courtiers evidently agreed more with the prophecies of Daniel, and they changed two letters in his title. from Epiphanes to Epipames, which means "the mad man."
His first act was to depose the high priest in Jerusalem. thus ending the long line of succession, beginning with Aaron and his sons through the many centuries of Jewish life. Onias the Third was the last of the hereditary line of priests. Antiochus Epiphanes sold the priesthood to Jason, who was not of the priestly line. Jason, in turn, was tricked by his younger brother Menelaus, who purchased the priesthood and then sold the golden vessels of the temple in order to make up the tribute money. Epiphanes overthrew the God-authorized line of priests. Then, and under his reign, the city of Jerusalem and all the religious rites of the Jews began to deteriorate as they came fully under the power of the Syrian king.
In 171 B.C. Antiochus invaded Egypt and once again Palestine was caught in the nutcracker of rivalry. Palestine is the most fought-over country in the world, and Jerusalem is the most captured city in all history. It has been pillaged, ravished, burned and destroyed more than 27 times in its history.
While Antiochus was in Egypt, it was reported that he had been killed in battle, and Jerusalem rejoiced. The people organized a revolt and overthrew Menelaus, the pseudo-priest. When report reached Antiochus (who was very much alive in Egypt) that Jerusalem was delighted at the report of his death, he organized his armies and swept like a fury back across the land, falling upon Jerusalem with terrible vengeance.
He overturned the city, regained his power, and guided by the treacherous Menelaus, intruded into the very Holy of Holies in the temple itself. Some 40,000 people were slain in three days of fighting during this terrible time. When he forced his way into the Holy of Holies, he destroyed the scrolls of the law and, to the absolute horror of the Jews, took a sow and offered it upon the sacred altar. Then with a broth made from the flesh of this unclean animal, he sprinkled everything in the temple, thus completely defiling and violating the sanctuary. It is impossible for us to grasp how horrifying this was to the Jews. They were simply appalled that anything like this could ever happen to their sacred temple.
It was that act of defiling the temple which is referred to by the Lord Jesus as the "desolating sacrilege" which Daniel had predicted (Matt. 24:15), and which also became a sign of the coming desolation of the temple when Antichrist himself will enter the temple, call himself God, and thus defile the temple in that time. As we know from the New Testament, that still lies in the future.
Daniel the prophet had said the sanctuary would be polluted for 2300 days. (Dan. 8:14) In exact accordance with that prophecy, it was exactly 2300 days -- six and a half years -- before the temple was cleansed. It was cleansed under the leadership of a man now famous in Jewish history, Judas Maccabaeus. He was one of the priestly line who, with his father and four brothers, rose up in revolt against the Syrian king...
His first act was to depose the high priest in Jerusalem. thus ending the long line of succession, beginning with Aaron and his sons through the many centuries of Jewish life. Onias the Third was the last of the hereditary line of priests. Antiochus Epiphanes sold the priesthood to Jason, who was not of the priestly line. Jason, in turn, was tricked by his younger brother Menelaus, who purchased the priesthood and then sold the golden vessels of the temple in order to make up the tribute money. Epiphanes overthrew the God-authorized line of priests. Then, and under his reign, the city of Jerusalem and all the religious rites of the Jews began to deteriorate as they came fully under the power of the Syrian king.
In 171 B.C. Antiochus invaded Egypt and once again Palestine was caught in the nutcracker of rivalry. Palestine is the most fought-over country in the world, and Jerusalem is the most captured city in all history. It has been pillaged, ravished, burned and destroyed more than 27 times in its history.
While Antiochus was in Egypt, it was reported that he had been killed in battle, and Jerusalem rejoiced. The people organized a revolt and overthrew Menelaus, the pseudo-priest. When report reached Antiochus (who was very much alive in Egypt) that Jerusalem was delighted at the report of his death, he organized his armies and swept like a fury back across the land, falling upon Jerusalem with terrible vengeance.
He overturned the city, regained his power, and guided by the treacherous Menelaus, intruded into the very Holy of Holies in the temple itself. Some 40,000 people were slain in three days of fighting during this terrible time. When he forced his way into the Holy of Holies, he destroyed the scrolls of the law and, to the absolute horror of the Jews, took a sow and offered it upon the sacred altar. Then with a broth made from the flesh of this unclean animal, he sprinkled everything in the temple, thus completely defiling and violating the sanctuary. It is impossible for us to grasp how horrifying this was to the Jews. They were simply appalled that anything like this could ever happen to their sacred temple.
It was that act of defiling the temple which is referred to by the Lord Jesus as the "desolating sacrilege" which Daniel had predicted (Matt. 24:15), and which also became a sign of the coming desolation of the temple when Antichrist himself will enter the temple, call himself God, and thus defile the temple in that time. As we know from the New Testament, that still lies in the future.
Daniel the prophet had said the sanctuary would be polluted for 2300 days. (Dan. 8:14) In exact accordance with that prophecy, it was exactly 2300 days -- six and a half years -- before the temple was cleansed. It was cleansed under the leadership of a man now famous in Jewish history, Judas Maccabaeus. He was one of the priestly line who, with his father and four brothers, rose up in revolt against the Syrian king...
22 April 2018 22:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"...There were those who were strong Hebrew nationalist, who wanted to preserve everything according to the Mosaic order. They resisted all the foreign influences that were coming in to disrupt the old Jewish ways. This party became known as the Pharisees, which means "to separate." They were the separationists who insisted on preserving traditions. They grew stronger and stronger, becoming more legalistic and rigid in their requirements, until they became the target for some of the most scorching words our Lord ever spoke. They had become religious hypocrites, keeping the outward form of the law, but completely violating its spirit.
On the other hand, the Hellenists -- the Greek lovers -- became more and more influential in the politics of the land. They formed the party that was known in New Testament days as the Sadducees, the liberals. They turned away from the strict interpretation of the law and became the rationalists of their day, ceasing to believe in the supernatural in any way. We are told in the New Testament that they came again and again to the Lord with questions about the supernatural, like "What will happen to a woman who has been married to seven different men? In the resurrection, whose wife will she be?" (Matt. 22:23-33) They did not believe in a resurrection, but in these questions they were trying to put Jesus on the spot.
Now there was also a young rebel Jewish priest who married a Samaritan, went down to Samaria, and in rebellion against the Jewish laws, built a temple on Mount Gerizim that became a rival of the temple in Jerusalem. This caused intense, fanatical rivalry between the Jews and the Samaritans, and this rivalry is also reflected in the New Testament.
Also during this time, in Egypt, under the reign of one of the Ptolemies, the Hebrew scriptures were translated for the first time into another language, in about 284 B.C. A group of 70 scholars was called together by the Egyptian king to make a translation of the Hebrew scriptures. Book by book they translated the Old Testament into Greek. When they had finished, it was given the name of the Septuagint, which means 70, because of the number of translators. This became the Greek version of the Hebrew Bible. From it many of the quotations in the New Testament are derived. That is why New Testament quotations of Old Testament verses are sometimes in different words -- because they come from the Greek translation. The Septuagint is still in existence today, and is widely used in various parts of the world. It is still a very important document.
A little later on, about 203 B.C., a king named Antiochus the Great came into power in Syria, to the north of Palestine. He captured Jerusalem from the Egyptians and began the reign of Syrian power over Palestine...."
On the other hand, the Hellenists -- the Greek lovers -- became more and more influential in the politics of the land. They formed the party that was known in New Testament days as the Sadducees, the liberals. They turned away from the strict interpretation of the law and became the rationalists of their day, ceasing to believe in the supernatural in any way. We are told in the New Testament that they came again and again to the Lord with questions about the supernatural, like "What will happen to a woman who has been married to seven different men? In the resurrection, whose wife will she be?" (Matt. 22:23-33) They did not believe in a resurrection, but in these questions they were trying to put Jesus on the spot.
Now there was also a young rebel Jewish priest who married a Samaritan, went down to Samaria, and in rebellion against the Jewish laws, built a temple on Mount Gerizim that became a rival of the temple in Jerusalem. This caused intense, fanatical rivalry between the Jews and the Samaritans, and this rivalry is also reflected in the New Testament.
Also during this time, in Egypt, under the reign of one of the Ptolemies, the Hebrew scriptures were translated for the first time into another language, in about 284 B.C. A group of 70 scholars was called together by the Egyptian king to make a translation of the Hebrew scriptures. Book by book they translated the Old Testament into Greek. When they had finished, it was given the name of the Septuagint, which means 70, because of the number of translators. This became the Greek version of the Hebrew Bible. From it many of the quotations in the New Testament are derived. That is why New Testament quotations of Old Testament verses are sometimes in different words -- because they come from the Greek translation. The Septuagint is still in existence today, and is widely used in various parts of the world. It is still a very important document.
A little later on, about 203 B.C., a king named Antiochus the Great came into power in Syria, to the north of Palestine. He captured Jerusalem from the Egyptians and began the reign of Syrian power over Palestine...."
22 April 2018 22:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
".At the height of the Persian power there arose in the country of Macedonia (which we now know as Greece), north of the Black Sea, a man by the name of Philip of Macedon, who became a leader in his own country. He united the islands of Greece and became their ruler. His son was destined to become one of the great world leaders of all time, Alexander the Great. In 330 B.C. a tremendous battle between the Persians and the Greeks entirely altered the course of history. In that battle, Alexander, as a young man only twenty years old, led the armies of Greece in victory over the Persians and completely demolished the power of Persia. The center of world power then shifted farther west into Greece, and the Grecian empire was born.
A year after that historic battle, Alexander the Great led his armies down into the Syrian world toward Egypt. On the way, he planned to lay siege to the city of Jerusalem. As the victorious armies of the Greeks approached the city, word was brought to the Jews in Jerusalem that the armies were on their way. The high priest at that time, who was a godly old man by the name of Jaddua (who, by the way, is mentioned in the Bible in the book of Nehemiah) took the sacred writings of Daniel the prophet and, accompanied by a host of other priests dressed in white garments, went forth and met Alexander some distance outside the city.
All this is from the report of Josephus, the Jewish historian, who tells us that Alexander left his army and hurried to meet this body of priests. When he met them, he told the high priest that he had had a vision the night before in which God had shown him an old man, robed in a white garment, who would show him something of great significance to himself, according to the account, the high priest then opened the prophecies of Daniel and read them to Alexander.
In the prophecies Alexander was able to see the predictions that he would become that notable goat with the horn in his forehead, who would come from the West and smash the power of Medio-Persia and conquer the world. He was so overwhelmed by the accuracy of this prophecy and, of course, by the fact that it spoke about him, that he promised that he would save Jerusalem from siege, and sent the high priest back with honors. How true that account is, is very difficult at this distance in time to say; that, at any event, is the story.
Alexander died in 323 B.C. when he was only about thirty-three years old. He had drunk himself to death in the prime of his life, grieved because he had no more worlds to conquer. After his death, his empire was torn with dissension, because he had left no heir. His son had been murdered earlier, so there was no one to inherit the empire of Alexander.
After some time, however, the four generals that had led Alexander's armies divided his empire between them. Two of them are particularly noteworthy to us. One was Ptolemy, who gained Egypt and the northern African countries; the other was Seleucus, who gained Syria, to the north of Palestine. During this time Palestine was annexed by Egypt, and suffered greatly at the hands of Ptolemy. In fact, for the next one hundred years, Palestine was caught in the meat-grinder of the unending conflicts between Syria on the north and Egypt on the south.
Now if you have read the prophecies of Daniel, you will recall that Daniel was able, by inspiration, to give a very accurate and detailed account of the highlights of these years of conflict between the king of the North (Syria) and the king of the South (Egypt). The eleventh chapter of Daniel gives us a most amazingly accurate account of that which has long since been fulfilled. If you want to see just how accurate the prophecy is, I suggest you compare that chapter of Daniel with the historical record of what actually occurred during that time. H. A. Ironside's little book, The 400 Silent Years, gathers that up in some detail.
During this time Grecian influence was becoming strong in Palestine. A party arose among the Jews called the Hellenists, who were very eager to bring Grecian culture and thought into the nation and to liberalize some of the Jewish laws. This forced a split into two major parties...
A year after that historic battle, Alexander the Great led his armies down into the Syrian world toward Egypt. On the way, he planned to lay siege to the city of Jerusalem. As the victorious armies of the Greeks approached the city, word was brought to the Jews in Jerusalem that the armies were on their way. The high priest at that time, who was a godly old man by the name of Jaddua (who, by the way, is mentioned in the Bible in the book of Nehemiah) took the sacred writings of Daniel the prophet and, accompanied by a host of other priests dressed in white garments, went forth and met Alexander some distance outside the city.
All this is from the report of Josephus, the Jewish historian, who tells us that Alexander left his army and hurried to meet this body of priests. When he met them, he told the high priest that he had had a vision the night before in which God had shown him an old man, robed in a white garment, who would show him something of great significance to himself, according to the account, the high priest then opened the prophecies of Daniel and read them to Alexander.
In the prophecies Alexander was able to see the predictions that he would become that notable goat with the horn in his forehead, who would come from the West and smash the power of Medio-Persia and conquer the world. He was so overwhelmed by the accuracy of this prophecy and, of course, by the fact that it spoke about him, that he promised that he would save Jerusalem from siege, and sent the high priest back with honors. How true that account is, is very difficult at this distance in time to say; that, at any event, is the story.
Alexander died in 323 B.C. when he was only about thirty-three years old. He had drunk himself to death in the prime of his life, grieved because he had no more worlds to conquer. After his death, his empire was torn with dissension, because he had left no heir. His son had been murdered earlier, so there was no one to inherit the empire of Alexander.
After some time, however, the four generals that had led Alexander's armies divided his empire between them. Two of them are particularly noteworthy to us. One was Ptolemy, who gained Egypt and the northern African countries; the other was Seleucus, who gained Syria, to the north of Palestine. During this time Palestine was annexed by Egypt, and suffered greatly at the hands of Ptolemy. In fact, for the next one hundred years, Palestine was caught in the meat-grinder of the unending conflicts between Syria on the north and Egypt on the south.
Now if you have read the prophecies of Daniel, you will recall that Daniel was able, by inspiration, to give a very accurate and detailed account of the highlights of these years of conflict between the king of the North (Syria) and the king of the South (Egypt). The eleventh chapter of Daniel gives us a most amazingly accurate account of that which has long since been fulfilled. If you want to see just how accurate the prophecy is, I suggest you compare that chapter of Daniel with the historical record of what actually occurred during that time. H. A. Ironside's little book, The 400 Silent Years, gathers that up in some detail.
During this time Grecian influence was becoming strong in Palestine. A party arose among the Jews called the Hellenists, who were very eager to bring Grecian culture and thought into the nation and to liberalize some of the Jewish laws. This forced a split into two major parties...
22 April 2018 22:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Now when you open the New Testament to the book of Matthew, you discover an entirely different atmosphere -- almost a different world. Rome is now the dominant power of the earth. The Roman legions have spread throughout the length and breadth of the civilized world. The center of power has shifted from the East to the West, to Rome. Palestine is still a puppet state -- the Jews never did regain their own sovereignty -- but now there is a king on the throne. But this king is the descendant of Esau instead of Jacob, and his name is Herod the Great. Furthermore, the high priests who now sit in the seat of religious authority in the nation are no longer from the line of Aaron. They cannot trace their descendancy back, rather, they are hired priests to whom the office is sold as political patronage.
The temple is still the center of Jewish worship, although the building has been partially destroyed and rebuilt about a half-dozen times since the close of the Old Testament. But now the synagogues that have sprung up in every Jewish city seem to be the center of Jewish life even more than the temple.
At this time the people of Israel were split into three major parties. Two of them, the Pharisees and Sadducees, were much more prominent than the third. The smaller group, the Essenes, could hardly be designated as a party. Not long ago, however, they came into great prominence in our time and took on new significance because they had stowed away some documents in caves overlooking the Dead Sea -- documents which were brought to light again by the accidental discovery of an Arab shepherd boy and are known as the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Now, what happened in these four hundred so-called "silent" years after the last of the inspired prophets spoke and the first of the New Testament writers began to write? You remember there is a word in Paul's letter to the Galatians that says, "When the time had fully come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law." (Gal. 4:4) In other words, the time of our Lord's birth was God's appointed hour, the moment for which God had been long preparing. Some of the exciting preparations took place during that time of "silence," however, and you will understand your New Testament much better if you understand something of the historic events during the time between the Testaments.
After Malachi had ceased his prophesying and the canon of the Old Testament closed -- that is, the number of the books in the Old Testament was fulfilled and the inspired prophets ceased to speak -- God allowed a period of time for the teachings of the Old Testament to penetrate throughout the world. During this time, he rearranged the scenes of history, much as a stage crew will rearrange the stage sets after the curtain has fallen, and when the curtain rises again there is an entirely new setting.
In about 435 B.C., when the prophet Malachi ceased his writing, the center of world power began to shift from the East to the West. Up to this time, Babylon had been the major world power, but this was soon succeeded by the Medio-Persian empire, as you remember from ancient history. This shift had been predicted by the prophet Daniel, who said that there would rise up a bear who was higher on one side than the other, signifying the division between Media and Persia, with the Persians the predominant ones (Dan. 7:5).
http://www.templemount.org/0240.html
The temple is still the center of Jewish worship, although the building has been partially destroyed and rebuilt about a half-dozen times since the close of the Old Testament. But now the synagogues that have sprung up in every Jewish city seem to be the center of Jewish life even more than the temple.
At this time the people of Israel were split into three major parties. Two of them, the Pharisees and Sadducees, were much more prominent than the third. The smaller group, the Essenes, could hardly be designated as a party. Not long ago, however, they came into great prominence in our time and took on new significance because they had stowed away some documents in caves overlooking the Dead Sea -- documents which were brought to light again by the accidental discovery of an Arab shepherd boy and are known as the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Now, what happened in these four hundred so-called "silent" years after the last of the inspired prophets spoke and the first of the New Testament writers began to write? You remember there is a word in Paul's letter to the Galatians that says, "When the time had fully come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law." (Gal. 4:4) In other words, the time of our Lord's birth was God's appointed hour, the moment for which God had been long preparing. Some of the exciting preparations took place during that time of "silence," however, and you will understand your New Testament much better if you understand something of the historic events during the time between the Testaments.
After Malachi had ceased his prophesying and the canon of the Old Testament closed -- that is, the number of the books in the Old Testament was fulfilled and the inspired prophets ceased to speak -- God allowed a period of time for the teachings of the Old Testament to penetrate throughout the world. During this time, he rearranged the scenes of history, much as a stage crew will rearrange the stage sets after the curtain has fallen, and when the curtain rises again there is an entirely new setting.
In about 435 B.C., when the prophet Malachi ceased his writing, the center of world power began to shift from the East to the West. Up to this time, Babylon had been the major world power, but this was soon succeeded by the Medio-Persian empire, as you remember from ancient history. This shift had been predicted by the prophet Daniel, who said that there would rise up a bear who was higher on one side than the other, signifying the division between Media and Persia, with the Persians the predominant ones (Dan. 7:5).
http://www.templemount.org/0240.html
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22 April 2018 22:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Rääkides Teoloogidest
"Kui Vana Testamendi (VT) tarkuskirjandusele mõeldakse, jäetakse sageli tähelepanuta üks Teise templi perioodi ja kogu Vana Lähis-Ida märkimisväärsemaid teoseid, mis peab poeetilise teksti mahult alla vanduma ainult VT Psalmidele. Erinevalt vähetähtsatest poeetidest ei saa Jeesus Siiraki Tarkuseraamatu (Srk) autorile ette heita tarkuse puudumist, piiritundetust ega komponeerimise oskamatust.
Ajal, mil VT teadus on Qumrani käsikirjade mõjust tulenevalt sunnitud uuesti läbi mõtlema, mida mõistetakse kaanoni all (vt Nõmmik 2012), võib teadlasi, kes tegelevad deuterokanoonilise kirjandusega, näiteks Srk-ga, pidada õnnistatuks. Samas on Srk uurijatele erinevatest aegadest pärinevad käsikirjad nii õnneks kui õnnetuseks. Tänaseks avastatud käsikirjade rohkust võib pidada õnneks, kuna veel enne 19. saj lõppu tuli leppida olukorraga, kus Srk tekstivalikust olid olemas ainult tõlked ja heebrea keeles vaid tsitaadid rabiinlikus kirjanduses. Käsikirjade rohkuse õnnetus seisneb asjaolus, et 20. saj jooksul leitud heebreakeelsetest käsikirjadest pole ükski säilinud päris terviklikult ning käsikirjade kirjutamisaegade vahemik on kohati väga suur.
Srk heebreakeelsest tekstist on säilinud umbes 68%, mis on jaotunud erinevate käsikirjade vahel. Kairo sünagoogist leitud käsikirjad A, B, C, D, E, F pärinevad umbes 11.–12. saj-st pKr. Qumranist leitud lühikesed käsikirjad 2Q18 ja 11QPsa pärinevad 1. saj-st eKr. Samasse sajandisse paigutatakse ka Masadast leitud käsikiri, mis on Srk uurimise jaoks kõige väärtuslikum (Beentjes 2007, 6).
Codex Vaticanus’es, 4. saj-st pKr pärit kreeka käsikirjas, on Srk esitatud koos teiste VT tarkuseraamatutega. Püha Hieronymus eristas kanoonilisi raamatuid ja raamatuid, mida hiljem hakati nimetama deuterokanoonilisteks. Viimaste hulka kuulus ka Srk. Seevastu Püha Augustinus ei nõustunud sellise jaotusega, sest nende jaoks olid kõik kreeka käsikirjades esitatud raamatud võrdselt autoritatiivsed (Skehan / Di Lella 1987, 17–18). Et Srk-d hinnati kõrgelt, näitab selle tsiteerimine rabide poolt ning eriti süüria- ja ladinakeelsete tõlgete tegemine 2.–3. saj pKr. Võimalik, et Srk aktsepteerimine kristlaste poolt võis vähendada teose kanoonilist tähtsust juutide jaoks. Meie kiriku- ja kultuuriruumi mõjutanud Lutheri kaanoni mõistmine ühtis Püha Hieronymuse omaga.
http://kjt.ee/2013/01/jeesus-siiraki-tarkuseraamat-ehk-ben-sira-tarkus-sissejuhatuseks/
"Kui Vana Testamendi (VT) tarkuskirjandusele mõeldakse, jäetakse sageli tähelepanuta üks Teise templi perioodi ja kogu Vana Lähis-Ida märkimisväärsemaid teoseid, mis peab poeetilise teksti mahult alla vanduma ainult VT Psalmidele. Erinevalt vähetähtsatest poeetidest ei saa Jeesus Siiraki Tarkuseraamatu (Srk) autorile ette heita tarkuse puudumist, piiritundetust ega komponeerimise oskamatust.
Ajal, mil VT teadus on Qumrani käsikirjade mõjust tulenevalt sunnitud uuesti läbi mõtlema, mida mõistetakse kaanoni all (vt Nõmmik 2012), võib teadlasi, kes tegelevad deuterokanoonilise kirjandusega, näiteks Srk-ga, pidada õnnistatuks. Samas on Srk uurijatele erinevatest aegadest pärinevad käsikirjad nii õnneks kui õnnetuseks. Tänaseks avastatud käsikirjade rohkust võib pidada õnneks, kuna veel enne 19. saj lõppu tuli leppida olukorraga, kus Srk tekstivalikust olid olemas ainult tõlked ja heebrea keeles vaid tsitaadid rabiinlikus kirjanduses. Käsikirjade rohkuse õnnetus seisneb asjaolus, et 20. saj jooksul leitud heebreakeelsetest käsikirjadest pole ükski säilinud päris terviklikult ning käsikirjade kirjutamisaegade vahemik on kohati väga suur.
Srk heebreakeelsest tekstist on säilinud umbes 68%, mis on jaotunud erinevate käsikirjade vahel. Kairo sünagoogist leitud käsikirjad A, B, C, D, E, F pärinevad umbes 11.–12. saj-st pKr. Qumranist leitud lühikesed käsikirjad 2Q18 ja 11QPsa pärinevad 1. saj-st eKr. Samasse sajandisse paigutatakse ka Masadast leitud käsikiri, mis on Srk uurimise jaoks kõige väärtuslikum (Beentjes 2007, 6).
Codex Vaticanus’es, 4. saj-st pKr pärit kreeka käsikirjas, on Srk esitatud koos teiste VT tarkuseraamatutega. Püha Hieronymus eristas kanoonilisi raamatuid ja raamatuid, mida hiljem hakati nimetama deuterokanoonilisteks. Viimaste hulka kuulus ka Srk. Seevastu Püha Augustinus ei nõustunud sellise jaotusega, sest nende jaoks olid kõik kreeka käsikirjades esitatud raamatud võrdselt autoritatiivsed (Skehan / Di Lella 1987, 17–18). Et Srk-d hinnati kõrgelt, näitab selle tsiteerimine rabide poolt ning eriti süüria- ja ladinakeelsete tõlgete tegemine 2.–3. saj pKr. Võimalik, et Srk aktsepteerimine kristlaste poolt võis vähendada teose kanoonilist tähtsust juutide jaoks. Meie kiriku- ja kultuuriruumi mõjutanud Lutheri kaanoni mõistmine ühtis Püha Hieronymuse omaga.
http://kjt.ee/2013/01/jeesus-siiraki-tarkuseraamat-ehk-ben-sira-tarkus-sissejuhatuseks/
http://kjt.ee/2013/01/jeesus-siiraki-tarkuseraamat-ehk-ben-sira-tarkus-sissejuhatuseks/
22 April 2018 22:23
Margus Meigo replied to Margus Luik's comment.
hakkan juba järgmist ettevalmistama,
kuid sellegipoolest,
olenemata sellest leivast, ei muuda see olukorda, et olukord suht kahtlane
kuid sellegipoolest,
olenemata sellest leivast, ei muuda see olukorda, et olukord suht kahtlane
22 April 2018 22:19
Margus Meigo replied to Raili Kuningas's comment.
südant ka
22 April 2018 21:15
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Johanson's post.
Parem paljastagu need kelle elu on hävitatud, sest ei ole node hulka sattunud
22 April 2018 20:47
Margus Meigo replied to ማሎሬ ሞልቶ፡ማለሰ's comment.
Just wondering how do You ppl keep ending up on that message :p
22 April 2018 20:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
borat easilly shows the eaisness of manipulation in any scale that can be done with upper class .. we gott a fix that
get people more in to mindest of "we dare to ask"
get people more in to mindest of "we dare to ask"
22 April 2018 12:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
its just imitation of good bahvior , cowardly useless sheep action in mostly is to stand by and not challenge the mistakes
22 April 2018 12:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
politneness is failure of good manners
22 April 2018 12:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
polite'ness is a failure
22 April 2018 12:34
Margus Meigo commented on Minou James's photo.
Point 2 is wrong, so the math is not coming out correct.
With money if one is able, can save and use more time,
at best, but
time can not be more a money
it is like telling that air is an apple
With money if one is able, can save and use more time,
at best, but
time can not be more a money
it is like telling that air is an apple
22 April 2018 00:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mhmh, kuid habe ikka ka kasvata korralik
21 April 2018 19:03
Margus Meigo commented on Reimo Sillamaa's photo.
Nüüd saad juba Odini salka inflatreerida küll :p
21 April 2018 18:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See puhas viisakus ja formaalsus, pahaasja juures head nägu tegemiseks.Mehekorral Olemuslikult keegi kes Proovib olla Naine kuid Loomulikult, ei saa ükski mees imiteerida isegi naise juukse karva.
Sotsiaaldemokraatlikud Meemid Hetrolisus ongi AINUKESENA "Normatiive" kõik muu on väärareng ja tulnuka invasioon, seda te ometigi nõustute eks, et seda oleks solvav eeldada esmasena ?
Sotsiaaldemokraatlikud Meemid Hetrolisus ongi AINUKESENA "Normatiive" kõik muu on väärareng ja tulnuka invasioon, seda te ometigi nõustute eks, et seda oleks solvav eeldada esmasena ?
21 April 2018 16:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
21 April 2018 16:04
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Burak's post.
Group: Soldiers Of Odin Estonia
mul palju mamba-wambasi tulnud kes on igast pärnu ja tartu ülikoolides vilunud egelased.
Asja kurvemaks teeb veel, et reaalselt nagu olemas ka tallinna neeger õliõpilaste ühendusi mis ÜRO tasemel kaudselt seotud ,aj EU eri orgnisatsioonide, üliopilasorganisatsioonidega seotud,
Iseenesest nad pigem jah, kasulikud agendid, kuigi nad otseselt öelda ei julgenud kes selle org taga ja kuidas nad sellele ideele tulid kuid eks ma küsi edasi..21 April 2018 06:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
21 April 2018 06:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
21 April 2018 06:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
21 April 2018 06:56
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Burak's post.
Group: Soldiers Of Odin Estonia
See techno jumal, neil DJ lahja, või alles soendab üles,
Siin juba teema käib: https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214780554844198/
Kommis ka moned veel
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muidu ma eip teadnud, et šamanism tava osa Moslemitest on... kuid need on vast need Algsed orignaalsed Moslemid, mystilised, kes mohaeedi jaoks need asjad üldse alles hoidis... enamuses nad ise pärast mohameedi järeltuliate poolt killitud said kui liialt esoteerilised.21 April 2018 06:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Soldiers Of Odin Estonia
st see video, : https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377/
Mis tuleb tänapäeva Odini filosoofiasse sisse integreerida, et noorte ajastuga kaasas olla ja ühiskonna juhtuvate kohtadega, kes Vene piiritaga ma kuulnud,
läbivad selliseid esoteerilisi õpetusi mis kindlustab nende elllujäämise kui aatompommiga kogu maailm hävib.
Sest neil eriarusaama vibratsioonid lisaks telepaatiale mida nad ka hooksalt arenavad ja taqva maa rahval võimalik ka nende kanalile tuunida nagu LM raadioga, kui seeni või isegi puhtal kujul sama eelniemtatud rohleist õige arukalooma kombel otstarbeliselt "vibratsioonide" osas oma aju aeglustades, et teises ajatajus saada ligi samaaegsele muu kihi infodele,
See aitab mõelda ka ja näha NENDE lahendusi, kes tänaval luusivad,
node moodi, ....sest see on Mõttedroog rohkem kui chillimise, kuigi chillides mõeldaksegi enamvähem eelkõige, ja chillitakse mõeldes, kui Tarkusearmastajaks, Naisearmastajaks, filosoofiks hakkad
(loodan, et selle teemas olemine lühidal arusaadav, ei hakka pikalt lahti kirjutama, kes soovib arusaada saab ja teeb, rääbib ise eraleus edasi mida vaja ja tarvis)21 April 2018 06:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Soldiers Of Odin Estonia
st liiga demokraatlikute (need kes karvavõrdki hindavad demokraatiat üle normaalsuse,) osas mul tekib tahtmine laulda nagu see negro:
https://www.facebook.com/Waffa.ee/videos/t.1135161043/1077974946337/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab
Kuigi kui ma seda tulnari videot igalpool jaganud, siis see pole üheskis aktiivses jutaknas saanud ühtegi vaatamist, siiani pole kindel, kuidas see võimali on ilma suurvandenõuta21 April 2018 06:40
Margus Meigo commented on Elver Loho's post.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
Kui Keegi Aadut ilma põhjuseta torgib mandi teemasse, sis i am like:
https://www.facebook.com/Waffa.ee/videos/t.1135161043/1077974946337/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab21 April 2018 06:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just a business
21 April 2018 06:22
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
who was thought it was named after police code, can i get this story, to read about this instead?
Did they figure out in USA what for Cannabis really is for and how to using of Marijuana should be ?
Is Trump about to legalese ? .
// ..it is easy, just make it look as it would be bad and as opponents of him would be to blame for legalizing ..
... later just leak, "sorry it was good.. and .. well. the ones who we told are for it... they got fame... so only thing for us to do now is to support it more and say it was our idea all along "
Did they figure out in USA what for Cannabis really is for and how to using of Marijuana should be ?
Is Trump about to legalese ? .
// ..it is easy, just make it look as it would be bad and as opponents of him would be to blame for legalizing ..
... later just leak, "sorry it was good.. and .. well. the ones who we told are for it... they got fame... so only thing for us to do now is to support it more and say it was our idea all along "
21 April 2018 06:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Peeter Tooma made great Communist version of this capitalist song, slight extra tones just in,
as you know, the ties are all just the same...
as you know, the ties are all just the same...
21 April 2018 06:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
they jsut skipped the colors part and added the heights,
Well , at least ya did not come out all the same
Well , at least ya did not come out all the same
21 April 2018 06:10
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's photo.
Gives kind of another meaning of the song what Reynolds song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_2lGkEU4Xs
malvina reynolds - little boxes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_2lGkEU4Xs
malvina reynolds - little boxes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_2lGkEU4Xs
21 April 2018 06:08
Margus Meigo replied to Kahoosier Hoosier's comment.
Sinead O'Malley it would be crappy way to end a life,
good all is well, this is happy message
good all is well, this is happy message
21 April 2018 06:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Even my ararcistaliencristlike friend Amir (Forbes potential billionaire who eat from bins with me)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI6uA5ccoJY
got extra perspectives when returned from Syria,
but perhaps stepped in to new pucked called "New Right"
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People got to understand, what we need was before(millenniums) already
Just lets add science and technology and arise this what is worth and leave the rest for starters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI6uA5ccoJY
got extra perspectives when returned from Syria,
but perhaps stepped in to new pucked called "New Right"
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People got to understand, what we need was before(millenniums) already
Just lets add science and technology and arise this what is worth and leave the rest for starters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI6uA5ccoJY
21 April 2018 06:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// they also have made situations, that more then 149 000 have left from Estonia, voluntarily, from proper land of the roots.. ... ... so we figure out how to make that look good ... even thought it is kind of reversed psychology same thing happened as in Siberia Trains times..
just now they made situations in a land that people voluntarily leave
instead understanding what they would do in homeland
just now they made situations in a land that people voluntarily leave
instead understanding what they would do in homeland
21 April 2018 05:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
even when it does make me grab a knife and eliminate horned ones :p
21 April 2018 05:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i still prefer magicshroooms
21 April 2018 05:54
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's photo.
Soul transporter?
21 April 2018 05:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
((but then again, even in another side of globe, in third Rome they wear again and again tie (aroundtheneck) by the most powerful public ones.. why..for who))
21 April 2018 05:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(hint, these kind of values, devalue USA and he's behavior can not be Conservative, so who is he working for ?)
21 April 2018 05:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ya got IQ near 200, or 158, ya can figure it out
21 April 2018 05:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
besides a lot other things from allowing media to attack proper ministers, and fire them in day's, in various pary's, eliminating only real original political party from founding times, in public polls.. eliminated already the about 100 years old LadLaw and LadGoverment structure who was NerveSystem to country life organizing..
well.. they was first not allowed to do anything much and then eliminated all together..
yesterday had fire in a server room of state entire Mapping system where extreme dtailed information is about any corner of a country property's ..
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News from my land,
Who is in the Trumpland?
heard the communist party might let him off the hook if he pay's hes part well to the end.
Maybe he will be in resting some of these beaches in few years as well,
after so great work and act, better to step back while stil lalive
and with respect in someones minds who was stil not able to get who is behind him in what scale
well.. they was first not allowed to do anything much and then eliminated all together..
yesterday had fire in a server room of state entire Mapping system where extreme dtailed information is about any corner of a country property's ..
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News from my land,
Who is in the Trumpland?
heard the communist party might let him off the hook if he pay's hes part well to the end.
Maybe he will be in resting some of these beaches in few years as well,
after so great work and act, better to step back while stil lalive
and with respect in someones minds who was stil not able to get who is behind him in what scale
21 April 2018 05:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
like they cut Baltics half with big railway, making billion dollars startup cost for wood rafinering factory's in heart of entire country soul river (this is like One river that ALL know and feel, MotherRiver) ,
...same time promoting warming tools that destruct land and do massive wood cuttings from all the land the yget hands on, ..even in 200 yers old
old royal parts and homes, graveyards, parks, willage road power trees etc, even .. and the ydo estimate, some large parts more then half is sold off to someones who they not know , what land the original owner is.. as EU forced this new law on that we MUST sale our land to strangers or else..
...same time promoting warming tools that destruct land and do massive wood cuttings from all the land the yget hands on, ..even in 200 yers old
old royal parts and homes, graveyards, parks, willage road power trees etc, even .. and the ydo estimate, some large parts more then half is sold off to someones who they not know , what land the original owner is.. as EU forced this new law on that we MUST sale our land to strangers or else..
21 April 2018 05:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
t othe castle that shines warmnly in woods,
well, as long they do leave some woods to us in Estonia,
they working on many destruction plans same time and few understand that they all are much bigger and worst , part of Plan, then any of them they imagined to be in worst propaganda complained about in news
well, as long they do leave some woods to us in Estonia,
they working on many destruction plans same time and few understand that they all are much bigger and worst , part of Plan, then any of them they imagined to be in worst propaganda complained about in news
21 April 2018 05:39
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's photo.
booring compared to natural woods alley
21 April 2018 05:37
Margus Meigo replied to Kahoosier Hoosier's comment.
looks like the times you looked for fancy extraordinary treatment in royal hospital to get fixed better then in USA and the ystarted to lay out old newspapers t oth table and bring out the seizors & pipes and big plastic pucket
21 April 2018 05:36
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's photo.
you dead again?
21 April 2018 05:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tatuusi ka pooeld täis veel,
üks neist on potensiaalselt paremusepoole sooviv
üks neist on potensiaalselt paremusepoole sooviv
21 April 2018 05:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mingid skeiterid ja omavad disain koeri.. nu mis neil ..
21 April 2018 05:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kergelt tulnukad
(see sari kus dollarid on lauakatteks pantud miski paar kolm kutti juhivad sarja ja hoiavad oma käsi ka veidralt)
(see sari kus dollarid on lauakatteks pantud miski paar kolm kutti juhivad sarja ja hoiavad oma käsi ka veidralt)
21 April 2018 05:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis ei jää süü Poliitikutuele,
21 April 2018 05:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nad alat iteevad nii, et jahuvad rahast, et nagu mingi maagiline number iniemsi nagu oleks vaja (ei ole) ja siis ütlevad, et rahas pole küsimus.
Ainuüksi ühe lapse elu päästmiseks tavainimsed ise juba mitusada tuhat said kokku, mis arvate kui palju lasteaedade ja sünnitusmajade hoidmiseks kokku saadaks ?
Nimed kivisse ka , või laulusse panemee
Ainuüksi ühe lapse elu päästmiseks tavainimsed ise juba mitusada tuhat said kokku, mis arvate kui palju lasteaedade ja sünnitusmajade hoidmiseks kokku saadaks ?
Nimed kivisse ka , või laulusse panemee
21 April 2018 05:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mitte,et see nalja, tegu oelks
21 April 2018 05:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Me elame jõududega maailmas kes suudavad süüta surmata armsamaid telestaarid kui vaja ja avalikult valida suvaline ja panna süüdlaseks ta enda kaaslane näitamaks sellele keda hirmutada soovitakse, et "näe mis me teha saame ja te ei saa midagi teha... kui tahad kirjutame sulle veel otsaette ja saadame.."
kuid see nalles naljategu
kuid see nalles naljategu
21 April 2018 05:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
NU Raimong, tõlgid meile otse ja moraali, saad aru mida nad rohelise pildiga mõtlesid?
21 April 2018 05:03
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
21 April 2018 04:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Soldiers Of Odin Estonia
(inimsuhete sarjad, inimsuhete ja suhtumiste filmid ja sarjad,)21 April 2018 03:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Soldiers Of Odin Estonia
muidugi kui te pole hipi ja ilma pealetegemata seda vaatate,siis fokuseerige teravalt.
Kuid yeha, maafia lugudele, kuuuuuria naisele peaksiem ka appi minema ja seljatagast pakkuma kui mingid mölad jahuma hakkavad liialt, või valeuuuriad21 April 2018 03:11
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Burak's post.
Group: Soldiers Of Odin Estonia
Aga oleks ta seline naine olnud, nagu tarksuelt Väärtuslik Saadetis filmis
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Siis oelks ta end välja mänginud või mud väärtust omanud, üleparda viskamise asemel,
Precious Cargo http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4651410/http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4651410/
21 April 2018 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
Nad on neid ajsu kuidagi paju viisakamalt
ja rahulikumalt, slegemalt näidendanud
ja kohandanud perekondliku ja normaal tava käitumis norme ka21 April 2018 03:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kellel pole naist
21 April 2018 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja äärepealt vga hea versiooongi, tuleb sedasi välja lõpetada, nagu mobiili tseen lopus,
teigjate naise maailmas kui keskendunud ja ülesaanut soovid näidata
teigjate naise maailmas kui keskendunud ja ülesaanut soovid näidata
21 April 2018 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
filmi point ol imees aabreaalssuest aru ku iansiel keelab suitsetamast
21 April 2018 02:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Filmi pointon, tuleb järgida, kuidas nad neid uusi reaalsusi vastuvõtavad ,ja kuidas tava ühiskonna iniemne võtaks
21 April 2018 02:45
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
irwwwww mis moodi Sa jumalat kuulutada saad :D xD
21 April 2018 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid skriptis ol iviga sest hea pooel ikka norgaks tegi ,sest tugeval oli üks täis poo ledu ja mehel ainult hustlemiseks 500
... milli
... milli
21 April 2018 02:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Only one can get it if ignoring cheap parts, few there is , and rest loook as caracter real life reallity's meeting and how they manage to play out,
21 April 2018 02:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Karen :
Precious Cargo http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4651410/
Precious Cargo http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4651410/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4651410/
21 April 2018 02:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// film isisse ajutiselt väga lahedaid kõrgtsemeid andud
21 April 2018 02:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Thatsi siia otsa ühe järje lisada, kuid kuna Aadu ja Weedi sünna on samal ajal, siis.... see kokkusattumus,
umbes sama nagu see, et taimetoiduline ja.....
umbes sama nagu see, et taimetoiduline ja.....
21 April 2018 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//okey see tulsitamise stiil pelae seda teemandi raseduse tseeni nagu suts lame vb
21 April 2018 02:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(Kuuuuria, ei peaks kunagi Kriminaale, mafia mehi ei tohi kunagi Kuuuuria uurida,
Kuuuuria asemele pantud, see meees uuriija, sari .. sest ta ühe vale naisega astus vastamsi, alilma naisega
ja need saavad orgniseerida uued saaated ja koos elu likvideeirmisega, normaalset asja järgi, ..... tehes kutuks niisama kellegi teise, alustuseks, et kui ignaes hea, et see keda teha soovivad, ei saaks tulla uurimisse ja keegi ei mäleta ega uurigi)
Kuuuuria asemele pantud, see meees uuriija, sari .. sest ta ühe vale naisega astus vastamsi, alilma naisega
ja need saavad orgniseerida uued saaated ja koos elu likvideeirmisega, normaalset asja järgi, ..... tehes kutuks niisama kellegi teise, alustuseks, et kui ignaes hea, et see keda teha soovivad, ei saaks tulla uurimisse ja keegi ei mäleta ega uurigi)
21 April 2018 02:19
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Lõksu langemise eest ei tasu reklaamid,a kes vaatab seda, ausalt, saab kurja seduste järgi ausalt meelitada aegajalt päriselt iniemsi loksu kui tarvis,
21 April 2018 02:17
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Selles filmis üks esimesi jällitmaise ja tulistamise tseene ka mis vaatmaist kolbasmida näinud olen, konteksti arvestades
21 April 2018 02:12
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(naise mehe Rseduse pildi tseen)21 April 2018 02:03
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ja nätia kõrg inimeste taset
Selsites suhtlsutes
võrdle nüüd "mamakatega"21 April 2018 02:03
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AAAARHHH!!
Tahsin jagada nyyd seda feedi aga ei saa.
Sest ainuke ebasobivam
Pilt sellel postil,
Kuidas seda oma seina nüüd panema peakisn21 April 2018 02:02
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//See saab selle ...
//Naine näitaks Õpetab..
//
_________
Aiult teine naine saab tuua
Austust, läbikukkunu suunas läbi mitte psotiiivse käitumise
Lihtsalt näidates mis tase Pidi olema, et üldse see ja sellsielt
//Naine näitaks Õpetab..
//
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Aiult teine naine saab tuua
Austust, läbikukkunu suunas läbi mitte psotiiivse käitumise
Lihtsalt näidates mis tase Pidi olema, et üldse see ja sellsielt
21 April 2018 02:00
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Kõiki Kõvasi inimkraktereid näitab, se ka oluline,
kui seda vaatad
kui seda vaatad
21 April 2018 01:47
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selles filmis normaalseid mees karaktereid näitab ja väimalusi kudias nad regueerivad ja saavadsuurima laambdiseta hakkama ku ivjaa
21 April 2018 01:45
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#Kaljulaiud kas võib sättida seaduse, et helistiili ebasobilikud vahetused ainukesena pole lubatud ja soovitavalt oleks filter mis tujusi, ja mis kõrgusastmega filme võib näidata järjest,
Et eelnevat filmi eip madaldaks vaid laiendaks arusaame, vastava arusaama ja saatega, kas saate kanal Kahes teemat mulle sebida, soovitamaks neile kanalite saadete vhaeldumist tähenduslikumaks teha
// Ja miks TallinnaTV näitab veidraid väliskultuuri asju, liiga intensiivseid, ilma mottetta kes nad on ja kuidas nad meie riigiga seotud on, mis plaanivad kui paljud vaatajad midagi ette võtta nendega , kes eetris, ja miks nad eetris,
Ei aita teiste kutluuri võõraste tutvustamisest kui nad meie kultuuriruumga seotud ei hakka oelma, mingi eri väga eri juhul vahest vb,
Kuid siis veel lisada inimtunnetest mööda rääkivat politikat ja suhtumist,
//Saad aru, mingi seltskond kes laseb kõrvarõngas käival mehel meeldivalt mikrofoni rääkida ja ei paranda teda, et miks, sest need kes väär käitumises ei tohi lasta kunagi juhtida arusaama, et nad on mingis võrdses muuus astmes veel austusväärsed.
//Kuigi meigode peres ongi sedasi normalane muudes astmetes, asjades ka tunda, perelähedaste vahel
MIdagi on imelikku selle documentliga, kas järg tuleb ja on plaantiud ÜLDSE et eri nende karekteriteni ja kuhu nad elus välja jõudnud nüüd on.. ..... kui milliste valikute hulgast ja miks just see valiti, kus on selle komite avalik järelvaade?
Aga kanal kahes enamus inimlikud komponendid on usdvamas astmes juba enamuse aja potensiaalselt rohkem meeldivas reaalsuses suures plaanis.
Rahuliku koos naudingu tsilli nagu Knaalkaest, TallinanvTVst ei tule ammu
//Läks lopuks nii jubedakssee lärm, et pidi ärakeerama
Et eelnevat filmi eip madaldaks vaid laiendaks arusaame, vastava arusaama ja saatega, kas saate kanal Kahes teemat mulle sebida, soovitamaks neile kanalite saadete vhaeldumist tähenduslikumaks teha
// Ja miks TallinnaTV näitab veidraid väliskultuuri asju, liiga intensiivseid, ilma mottetta kes nad on ja kuidas nad meie riigiga seotud on, mis plaanivad kui paljud vaatajad midagi ette võtta nendega , kes eetris, ja miks nad eetris,
Ei aita teiste kutluuri võõraste tutvustamisest kui nad meie kultuuriruumga seotud ei hakka oelma, mingi eri väga eri juhul vahest vb,
Kuid siis veel lisada inimtunnetest mööda rääkivat politikat ja suhtumist,
//Saad aru, mingi seltskond kes laseb kõrvarõngas käival mehel meeldivalt mikrofoni rääkida ja ei paranda teda, et miks, sest need kes väär käitumises ei tohi lasta kunagi juhtida arusaama, et nad on mingis võrdses muuus astmes veel austusväärsed.
//Kuigi meigode peres ongi sedasi normalane muudes astmetes, asjades ka tunda, perelähedaste vahel
MIdagi on imelikku selle documentliga, kas järg tuleb ja on plaantiud ÜLDSE et eri nende karekteriteni ja kuhu nad elus välja jõudnud nüüd on.. ..... kui milliste valikute hulgast ja miks just see valiti, kus on selle komite avalik järelvaade?
Aga kanal kahes enamus inimlikud komponendid on usdvamas astmes juba enamuse aja potensiaalselt rohkem meeldivas reaalsuses suures plaanis.
Rahuliku koos naudingu tsilli nagu Knaalkaest, TallinanvTVst ei tule ammu
//Läks lopuks nii jubedakssee lärm, et pidi ärakeerama
21 April 2018 01:44
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Mudu selle filmi lopliku tähendust mulle keegi taa ja selles vahepeal juhtuvat , selgitada21 April 2018 01:24
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Näitks, kas see jutt on liiga teemas mõnele siin grupsi ,et siis ma tean, kas keegi saab aru sellest,et kas see liiga diip selle foorumi jaoks siin või sedasi võib postitada aegajalt ?21 April 2018 01:24
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kõike mida on võialik luua pole hea ega..
// robot katuse tseenis filmis ,tegi rebuudi Nö,
laadis uue inimkogmeuse sisse, ja siis tegi inimeste peas loogika, nagu oleks tegelenud inimestega,
ja et nagu need nüüüd iniemsed ta ümber, inimlikumalt käitudes,
Tegelkult uus programmi Update oli, ja siis pea robot: see kes meest suudleb, to naise vastas olev, on see kelle järel väike robotid selles filmsi teised keda uuendati, nagu Nö inimimeseks,
Rohkem,
kuid et iniemsel mõistus rguleeriks ja viakselt võtta saaks, et ei jäääks veider arusaama tippu, näidendatakse kohe otsa, Sellele reaalsusele vajaliku uuenduse, ehamtuse ja selgituse, inimese peas, (sedasi ümber näidndades ja kaasa arvatud peale surumine, sellele mis näidendati tulevikus kui vaja selle pohjuse piires iniemst hoida... ... kuid yeah... see viirus mis nad loosid filmis.. .. see healjuhul paraleel loo tekitas, Kui polnutki viirust, Vaid Kohanemine )21 April 2018 01:23
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Mis monele kel veab veel meelde tuleb Tänulikuses ja mures, miks nii pidi21 April 2018 01:19
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Naine teeb kiirkursuse läbi oma draama mehele ka Elusoas kui vaja21 April 2018 01:19
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aga kuulama peaks Naist21 April 2018 01:17
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tark must mees, tark vana must mees on targem jaarukam kui valge korralik hullumisele aetud naine, vahest21 April 2018 01:17
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aga samas masin saab millise iganes kuju ja keha võtta ja jutu ja tuju,
selles on asimida iniesed arusaama peavad kui masinad keelekorpustes, millest ehk iniemstel endal ka piisavalt koopiaid lauludesse pandud...
ja koopiad nooorte P2P võrkudes... nagu headel databasidel kombeks21 April 2018 01:16
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masina eest21 April 2018 01:15
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Kohalikud inimesed saavad ka nii tagrad olla, et masina pool olla, et inimest kaitsta21 April 2018 01:14
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olukordi mis suurolukorras,
oleks naisi ja mehi kokkku jätnud,
nad ei saanud aru, et koik ta ümber pole enamuses mehed,
ja siis hoopis muud realasust oli vaja kaasa mängida naisel, sest nemad meest hoidsid olukorras kus mees ei saa saaks aru millest ta ilma jääb21 April 2018 01:14
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Maamehed vhaest nii lambad, et rikuvad sju häid olukordi, kuna lihtsalt ei tlaitse ennast21 April 2018 01:12
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kui keegi minu eest mu failid netti viitsiks laadida, leida see kaasaitaja, ja ku iise samal ajal saan naisega ka veel olla, nu see eriti oleks hea, et tean et füüsilist kauulikusttiksub, ja samas , saab olla meeldivalt, see ka, ... st siia ilma kui siis naise pärast üldse need tulid kes koige suurema järel jõudnud muude maailma loomingutega Liituda ja megasuurelt veidrik voib olla, ükskõik milline millioni looja osadest,21 April 2018 01:12
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Viimane peaks niisama kunstina mtlema ärgitama kui ei mitte midagi muud21 April 2018 01:10
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naised suudavad kanii usaldtvad koige, KOIGE hullema poolt olema,
Koiige sobivama ainulaadsete tööde jaoks milleparimuse hetki koige suurima üleoleku võiduks tarvis,
Teiselepoolele esimese tegudest ka ju teada antakse kui ta soovib, me aga lihtsalt teeme, ei nõua, aga need kes tahavad nõuavad (Tarkust) ja ka korgeimas astmes kas nad saavad siis maaailma loomingus võita21 April 2018 01:09
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ja see tase millega mees naisevahelises jutus selgeks tegi, et ta inimene oades niisügavat inimloogika arusaama mida masin eisaa aru saada, elementaarne Kultuuri tase, millest see mida luua proovitakse, alguson, kõrguses praeguses ühiskonnas
// lokk raske21 April 2018 01:07
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võimed st21 April 2018 01:06
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kontori ei osasd eeriosade täis arneguks ja siis slele väikeseks tegemiseasutus kuid veel muu tunnetuslikd väimed kam21 April 2018 01:05
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see ais mis kooiaid iseendas teeb, nagu sleles filmis, nii ka need asjad on mis jumala maailma ümber sööb.. ja me maalim nagu korterina n tolle maialmas, kus akvaariumis nagu oleme kuskil kontri lopversioonis21 April 2018 01:05
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(las vead olla, enne sisu)21 April 2018 01:04
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rääksiid seleks ,voi siis olid nad Eesti Eliit,
Selle asja kapitlaiseeirmise,s ülemaailma muu roobtitele parmeuse tasema ette näitmaine21 April 2018 01:04
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(hästieri palju sote saab rotobelisi olla ja nnede väljendusi.... ohtlikus kukus ka)21 April 2018 01:03
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21 April 2018 01:03
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Need AI filmi tipud on köömes ohtude kallal mis kommmuistliku tehnokraatiaga kaasneb21 April 2018 00:59
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kuid meeletult palju häid, vimsaid siiraid iniemsi nende gruppides, sest eriti palju suur lahendusi muid yle maailma pole levida lastud.. jba seepärast tasub ligi hoida ja ..21 April 2018 00:50
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neilt tiuleb võtta mis on parim (sest nad selel tiestelt nagunii varastnaud)
ja siisteha nii kuidas on vaja
looduslähedaselt21 April 2018 00:49
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Kristo Poljakov sõna demokraatia on ise paha
sest see on enamasti orjandus mida promotakse vabaduse sildi all, sest üksikutele alt ülesse vaadates tundub hea anarhistli kvabadus aga tegelikult inimeste yhsikond allub selle peale, mis ideed ja mõtted iniemstel grupis peas on ühise nõustumisena,
Seega siis nad seda demokraatiat ka promovad ja samal ajla ülevalt sätivad inimese ajud monesse erinevasse formaati mõtlema nii kuidas neil tarvis, et illusiooni hoida,
grup sportlasi, haritlasi, hipstereid, poliitikuid, tänavalapsi, joodikuid jms gruppe ja nende toetajaid tekitatakse ,kellele kõigile antakse mingid osad tarkusest, nii, et nad ükstiesest erald ija teinetist paigal hoiaks.. .
ja suurs plaanis kõi koos täidaks käsku ja ründaks koos neid kes selel asja vastu astuda soovib, hek kes demokraatia vastu (ma kutsun seda DeemonCreisi, ing keelest, democrasy))
kuid yeah, tuleb arusaaada rooma impeeriunm vs juudid...
ja mis jõud on mis poolel olnud ja kudias toiminud... ja kas juudid on olnud maarhavana meie vanaeestlaste sarnased pigem, või on nad rooma impeeriumi ja greeeka rasnased... ..
juudid ikka loodusrahga pigem... lurelased suht greeka-rooma poolel teesklevad krisltust..ise toetvad martin lutherit kes juute hävitada soovis ja hirler time apärast ka neid asju tegi suurs plaanis.. neid ajsu tuelb arvestada.. sest kommnisti algetel ka samad logod mis rooma impeeriumil21 April 2018 00:48
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siis pean alles leidma naise kellega saab neid asju teha mis maailma muudaks, päris armastus ei soovi, maailma kogu inimkonda parandada ja ise miljardnäriks saada, kui isegi rahas aint asi oleks.. kuid kultuuride päästmised ja kõik muu.. kuid ilam naispoole energiata ei saa neid asju ma kanaldada siia ilma21 April 2018 00:25
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suht rakse ennast elus hoida kui meeletud ideed, suuruselt head ja praktilised, targad, olemas kuid ei ole seda väikest nurka mis aitaks seda relaiseerida...
vaimuvisioone ja lahendusi alati pole lihtne kanldada paberidimensioooni.. kuid jah.. ma parem eip haka rääkima, rääkinud aastaid juba, suurt kasu ehk saab kudiagi muud moodi.. eelmised rääkismised olid nagunii suts muudel põhimõtetel.. kuna ma pole keelekirjaoskaja21 April 2018 00:24
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Kristo Poljakov eks nad suts kommunismi maiguga ole, kuid tuleviku kommunismi, likvideerimaks naturaalse loodus koosluse ja puit elamud
nad rõhku suts ulmelisele tulevikule panid kuid nad samas ei näidanud arusaama, ja austust reaalsete vanade maakultuuride osas kes kõike seda juba tuhaded aastad tagasi teinud
kudi ma seda asja eip osak õraegu selgitada, ja kuna nad polnud psyhdeelikumide promojad siis ma suht kahtlustav nagunii,
nad isegi bännsiid inimesi kes psyhdeelikumisest rääkisid
Kuid vana oli revolutsiooniline muidugi ,kuid nagu äärmiselt veider kooslus ja aura ja systeem ta ümber ikkagi.. eip oska öelda kudias ja miks..
kuid loomulikult häid ideid nende ümber pidi nii suure komuuni ja inimeste peale sündima... iseasi kas ta kõike enamsut ise väljamõtles .. realiseerisid ned asju ikak päris inserneerid..
mul ka maailma muutvaid palju suuri thenoloogilsii lahendusi mida saaks praeguse thenologiaga teha ja seda edasi arnedada nii ,et lopuks kõigile meeldiks kes normalased ja head, kuid .. jah.. kõigiel veel ei jagata.. motleb veel21 April 2018 00:22
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Juutidele see kanepi promo ikka on mõjunud hästi mida siin ammuaega teinud oleme,
nei leriti tuus ständup kanepi aktivist ka koomik, ja suured psyparty'd,
jumalalähedasemad inimesed ka, saavad pointile pihta kiiremini20 April 2018 22:52
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Põhjus miks ained psühedeelsed on keelatud on vaimsed,
raha taha ainult asjad siin ei takerdu20 April 2018 22:51
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Ro paul on muidug Lipsumees, temaga tuleb ettevaatlik ola, tema ise võib üll vahest peale tea, kuid ta tööötab ikkagi lipsude tarvis20 April 2018 22:50
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Wa Toosh ärevus on selleks, et vaimus ja õiged ained on maha surutud vangistatud hinges mis on hakkanud rohkem nägema ja tundma kui vangistajad siin soovivad..
enamusi iniemsi suht lihtsas kanalis hoitakse autopiloodi peal.. osad aga hakkavad midagi rohkem tundma ja see segadust tekitab mondadel ja ärevust jms..
peab oskama vaimselt oma mõte paika panna miks Sa elus oeld ja mida maailmale teha soovid.. ja siis uurida vaaimsed ärevustega seotud uskumusi , ka esoteerilisi (mitte aga mustasi, need vangi võtavad..sest textid nii targad lihtsalt ja lõkse täis mis meeltesse jääb, osadel eluks ajaks ku ireset ajus eip tehta)
Soovitan erinevate lärevushetkedel proovida erinevaid aineid õige mõttega..
sooviga, et saaksid teada mis ärevuste taga olla võib ja miks,
Ning loomuliult tuleb arvestada tulnukaid ja viame jms , elementaarset.. ja mitte nende pärast paanikasse sattuda, vaid keskenduda oma inimlikusele ja mida siin maal saad teha Naisele, Loodusele ja Loojale20 April 2018 22:48
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Aa siin grupis oli üks.Küsitlus
Muide ära selles osas solvu, aga see V projekt on ka, mitte päris maiste inimeste oma ega maainimeste loodud20 April 2018 22:41
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Ära mulle enam nii ütle, et "genereerin pska", vali sõnu suts, muidu genereerub midagi selliselt ,et mitu aastat paha olema hakkab.
Võta heaga sõnad tagasi. Ma töötan kõikidel pooltel, selleks, et õiglus ja mõistus meie rahvani uuesti tuua. Mingi lipsumeeste soovituste järgi, kellaajaliselt sildikesed käes lubatud kohas, ajal ja moodusel õiglust nõuda pole minu moodus20 April 2018 22:38
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Olen ka arreteerimis operatsioone ärarikkunud kuid ma ei hakka siin listi oma tavapärasest elust pikka ette lugema, tean lihtsalt et ei ole mõtet liialt põdeda, peab ise arusaama MIKS ja mida teed, kui näha on, et iniene hinges pole ise arusaanud mida teeb, ja et ta meelega seadustmurrab ja pättti oma silmis teeb, siis elementaarne jah, sedusemurjale tuleb anda.
Aga kui ikka inimene jätkusuutlikult täiskasvanud ja siiras, aus on ja teab oma vajadusi, siis saab alati mõisltikute inimestega jutule,
loomulikult on osade pol seas musti õune ka kes vene miilitsa misiooni tundest või muidu pede olemusest või siirast teadmatusest ja liigsast agarusest vahest võib sisse sõita, kuid ega selleprast ei tasu hakata arvama, et kogu politsei ja riigi struktuur alaaarenenud ja sitakeerajad oleks.
Nad ikka näe ja oleku järgi vaatavad, kas inimene on ise ülbik või on ta asjalik, kas tal süda puperdab üleliia või on ta täeisti avatud oma saatusele ja ei hakkka vinguguma ku inad nende endast olenematta vahestki peavad jamaga tegelema.
Rohkem julgust, armastust ja tarkust20 April 2018 22:35
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Ma olen politsei jaoskonnas ka peale teinud ja politseilt kanepit küsinud ja neile pakkunud ja soovitanud IRL, mitmeid kordi20 April 2018 22:31
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Piltidelt saab üli lihtsalt muideks eemaldada KOGU informatsiooni,
Ja FB pildid mis arvad, need mis siit allalaetavad, et on positsioneeritavad v? Loomulikult ei ole,
Ja mis nad hakkavad Eesti stonerite pilte siin taga ajama interpolli kaudu, et muud teha nagu poleks v?
Lihtsam on neil minna suvalisse tänavasse, küsida kellegilt kas manti on ja siis esimene kratt kinni võtta, ku ihakata minig eri skeeme läbi ameerika luure geniitama.
Elementaarne, et tark inimene teab ise mis nurgaall ja mida jagab.20 April 2018 22:30
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Rünno Hansi see nii elementaarne mis räägid, miks seda kartma peaks ?
ma ise õpetasin 10 a tagasi iniemstele seda juba enne GPS ajastut mis moodi telefoni ja tutvuste ringkondade kaudu seltskondi kokku liidetakse, see köömes
Miks kartma peaks ikkagi, mis kartes ja kotikuna pidevalt ennast pätina süüdi tundes on mingi lahedus v?
Ei tugev vennaskond on lahendus, kes teab, et nad ei kasuta neid asju MÕNU AINETE vaid ASJAPÄRASt ja siis oskavad ja vastavalt ennast kaitsta, täiesti arulagedus on peita ennast,
point on, et ei tohi ümbeks minna, peab teiste tööst ja kohustustest arusaama, hetke poliit ja ühiskonna olukorrast ning seda arvesse võtmas ikka edasi teha seda mis õige on.
Kui me sedasi põdenud oleks, veneajal ka, siis meil polekski praegu Eestiriiki20 April 2018 22:28
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Millise kogemuse Sa muidu küsitlusse sisestasid?20 April 2018 19:49
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muidugi need slaaagendid kes meelega mägvad kanepi poolset ja kes hoopis muid jõude teenivad.. või need kes asutustes korgetel kohtadel ussidena teisi ryndvad kui nad proovivad päriselt asja uurida töökohal.. need on need keda jahtima peame, ku ivaja siis metsa viima20 April 2018 19:48
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Suuremal osal inimestel on väga lai valik millega tegelvad, ja neil soov head teha ... kanepit nad vaatavad yhena mitmetest ainetest.. nii nagu koolis õpetati... kuid seeest neil väga suured arusaamad ja tõendid nendelt, kes neid asju valesti kasvatanud, sest ega õigetega nad kokku puutu ju... seega jah, peab node seisukohalt arvestama20 April 2018 19:47
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Kristo Poljakov nagu ma ütlesin, pigem nad näevad, et Sa kiusad neid oma küsimustega ja keeldud uurima teadust,
Seega jah, kogu ikka oma kettale, arvutisse kui sul aega ja ruumi on,
igasuguseid artikleid, uuringuid jne
ja postita rhiivi salvestuskeskustesse weebi aadresse mis vajavad salvestust, artiklitest jne
ja siis mei lseda materiali kõike vaja , tarvis läheb ükspäev20 April 2018 19:45
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Kristo Poljakov nagu ma ütlesin, ega nad niisama kiusa...
neil ikka tõsised põhjused ja strateegiad nende poolt kes neid seda tegema juhedab valeuuringutega mis meelega algusallikast saati vales põhimõttes tehtud20 April 2018 19:38
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minulaadsetel, lieraalsuse asemel praktiline tõsine vastutusega kasutamine ja vajadusepõhine arenemine, hingede tunnetamine20 April 2018 19:36
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Jama tõmbame endale siis kaela, kui valet moodi, vales allume ja pseudo vaenlaste seaduste järgi oma loodusähedase, taimetarga kultuuri unustusse peidame kuniks ei ole kedagi enam järgi, kes reaalsete asjadega teha julgeks või sooviks, päris õigetel, minu põhimõtetel20 April 2018 19:35
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Miks peaksime kartma ja küürus ringi käima?
Mis jama siit kaela tulla saab?
Ma promonud LSD ja aineid juba stabiilselt üle 10 ne aasta, nii politseile, luurele, sõjaväele, psühiaatria tippudele, koolisüsteemidele kui erineva maa riiklikutele asutustele ja narkovastastele.
Mis suur mure siis sellest kanepist tulla saab20 April 2018 19:34
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Kristo Poljakov enne harimine siis küistlus, muidu saad valed vastused ;)20 April 2018 19:17
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Kristo Poljakov Nu Tšaar Putini sõna ise maksaks juba piisavalt kui ta vaid sooviks...aga jah, seni kuni ta lipsu kannab.. siis pigem jah.. peame uurima kellele nad alluvad..
Ega see ÜRO on suht ka vana N.Liidu strukturide all päris kõvasti ideoloogiliselt, need pole niisama lääne inimesed sääl ainult..
Nad kaudselt isegi Venus Projekt sarnastes filsooofiates, kuid jah.. sus arusaamatu samal ajal.. kui maised nad on.
Teada on, et näiteks ÜRO veebileht .int
on haruldasem ja raskemini saadavam kui usa .mil või .gov20 April 2018 19:16
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meie suurim naaber, kui nad korda saaks, siis oleks juba turvaline!20 April 2018 19:08
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Sest kui on teada, et lääs valetab, sest Rooma impeeriumi seaduste ja ärimeeste küüsis.. siis Miks venemaa vastureaktsioooni pole julgenud teha, kuidas nende teadlased, kes maailma tipud, seda veel arusaadavaks pole teinud ?20 April 2018 19:08
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Irooniline ongi, nägemaks seda salakoostööd.. et Läääne riikidest saab aru, et nad üksteise teenrid ja üksteisega seotud, üksteise seadusruumides ja lepingutes...
Aga mida ja keda See Venemaa kardab... hiinat või keda?
Miks nad ei julge tugevalt Kanepi osas liigutada ennast ja seente osas?
nende maal ju vallutatud Siber ka, kus algne šamaani nimetus pärineb...
Vot seda peab uurima, ma Putinile ka kirju saatnud aga peab selgemat saatma, kahjuks pole venekeele oskajatega saanud kokkuleppele, kes muga koos kirjutada julgeks,
Viiskas ikka oleks Venekeeles kirjutada, mul Kremli kodulehel konto olemas kustkaudu kirjutada saab.
Aga jah.. keda kardab Putin... kelle meelituseks ja kellele allumiseks ta Lipsu kannab.. seda peaks uurima.. ja siis kirjutaks ehk neile otse.20 April 2018 19:07
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Kui Ükskõik kes neist: Venemaa, USA, Norra, EU teeks muudatuse ja astuks inimlikuks, siis oleks muutus ka siin20 April 2018 19:04
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Esiteks ise peaksime juged oema mitte kartma promoda asju mida õigetel eesmärkidel teeme.20 April 2018 19:03
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Nu jah aga ega nad seda aru ei saa miks, sest pole vaiseid kogemusi, naerdakse ainult selle peale, õigustatult, sest node teadmiste osas mida nad arvavad ja näevad, on neil täitsa õigus naerda, iseka naeraks kui selline oleks selliste teadmiste ja arusaamadega.
Seega jah... kudas arusaame muuta.. siin suuri koostööösi ja jätkusuutliku plaani peab piama20 April 2018 19:02
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Kristo Poljakov relv on lubatud, aga taimed pole.... ja siis arvatakse, et vaba maa :D20 April 2018 19:01
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Suurriigid nagu Saksamaa, Venemaa, USA, Prantslased, Norrakad jne
nemad need kes ise oma riigis kehtestavad ja teistes riikides oma seadusi...
Me siin aga EU Liidu, nagu N liidu osariigi liige,
samad viisnurgad ka .. lihtsalt virtuaalselt teises "lääne" poolel
eks see üks tulnuka keberniit siin käib päris maarahva kallal läbi eri poolte kelle vahel sunnitakse valima kuid kes enamasti mõne sajandi jooksul ühed ja samad pooled tunduvad olema
Kui Eesti kunagi Päris vabaks saab siis kaovad ka arulagedad seadused20 April 2018 19:01
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Ei nu siin oma maaliste vastu pole midagi relvaga vehkida,
siis tuleb mõni päris kaitseväeline või vana leegioni mees ja lööb kabaga siferplaadi sisse ja valmis.
Kuid nagu lihtsalt ka, reaalselt ei oleks mingit võimalust selleks, et saaks kasu tulla.
Riigi vastu ei ole vaja kaitsta ennast, riigi peab suutma paremaks ja korda teha ning oma riigivastaliste eest seda kaitsta,
sest ega need inimvastased teod mida rakendatakse, ega need meie oma poliitikute ja ega need meie oma kodumaaliste leiutised pole, kui siis mõni üksik eksimusest, valest soovitusest20 April 2018 18:57
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Methodologies:
The San Pedro cactus (Echinopsis pachanoi) has been used for healing and religious divination in the Andes Mountains region for over 3000 years.[10]
Hallucinogens, [1] oneirogens, and especially psychedelics such as peyote, psilocybin mushrooms, LSD and DMT, but also dissociatives and atypical psychedelics such as ketamine, dextromethorphan, Tabernanthe iboga, Amanita muscaria and Salvia divinorum
Icaros, which are the songs (i.e. something verbal that is ordinarily perceived as an auditory sensation) the Ayahuasceros sing to induce pictorial representations, rich tapestries of colors and patterns that are visually seen by the listener. (See: synesthesia) The ayahuasca ingredient, harmine, was once known as telepathine because of this group-facilitated activity of singing icaros and the shared perception it cultivates. A shaman who is one of the Ayahuascero people is expected to memorize as many icaros as they can.
Disruption of psychological and physiological processes required for usual mental states - sleep deprivation, fasting, sensory deprivation,[1] oxygen deprivation/smoke inhalation, holotropic breathwork
Ritual, both as a means of inducing an altered state, and also for practical purposes of grounding and of obtaining suitable focus and intention
Dreaming, in particular lucid dreaming[1] in which the person retains a degree of volition and awareness, and dream journals
Hypnosis[1]
Meditation[1]
Meditative or trance inducing dance, like Sufi whirling can also be used to induce altered state of consciousness
Prayer
Biofeedback and other devices that change neural activity in the brain (brainwave entrainment)[1] by means of light, sound, or electrical impulses, including: mind machines, dreamachines, binaural beats, and cranial electrotherapy stimulation
These may be used in combination; for example, traditions such as shamanism may combine ritual, fasting, and hallucinogenic substances.
https://books.google.com/books?id=qbF44AEMGdcC&pg=PA434https://books.google.com/books?id=qbF44AEMGdcC&pg=PA434
20 April 2018 18:31
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The aims and methods of psychonautics, when state-altering substances are involved, is commonly distinguished from recreational drug use by research sources. Psychonautics as a means of exploration need not involve drugs, and may take place in a religious context with an established history. Cohen considers psychonautics closer in association to wisdom traditions and other transpersonal and integral movements.[8]
However, there is considerable overlap with modern drug use and due to its modern close association with psychedelics
https://web.archive.org/web/20101110073128/http://www.transpersonalacademy.co.uk/psychonautics.htm
One of the best known psychonautical works is Aldous Huxley's The Doors of Perception. In addition to Ernst Jünger, who coined the term, the American physician, neuroscientist, psychoanalyst, philosopher, writer and inventor John C. Lilly is another well-known psychonaut. Lilly was interested in the nature of consciousness and, amongst other techniques, he used isolation tanks in his research.[16]
Philosophical- and Science-fiction author Philip K. Dick has also been described as a psychonaut for several of his works such as The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch. Another influential psychonaut is the psychologist and writer Timothy Leary. Leary is known for controversial talks and research on the subject; he wrote several books including The Psychedelic Experience. Another widely known psychonaut is the American philosopher, ethnobotanist, lecturer, and author Terence McKenna. McKenna spoke and wrote about subjects including psychedelic drugs, plant-based entheogens, shamanism, metaphysics, alchemy, language, culture, technology, and the theoretical origins of human consciousness.https://web.archive.org/web/20101110073128/http://www.transpersonalacademy.co.uk/psychonautics.htm
20 April 2018 18:27
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The term psychonautics derives from the prior term psychonaut, usually attributed to German author Ernst Jünger who used the term in describing Arthur Heffter in his 1970 essay on his own extensive drug experiences Annäherungen: Drogen und Rausch (literally: "Approaches: Drugs and Inebriation"). In this essay, Jünger draws many parallels between drug experience and physical exploration—for example, the danger of encountering hidden "reefs."
Peter J. Carroll made Psychonaut the title of a 1982 book on the experimental use of meditation, ritual and drugs in the experimental exploration of consciousness and of psychic phenomena, or "chaos magic".] The term's first published use in a scholarly context is attributed to ethnobotanist Jonathan Ott, in 2001
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Margus Meigo commented on Psühhonaut - Psychonautics's post.
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Kuid selle vast Juuni 15 ndaks ehk käima saame..20 April 2018 18:21
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Niih, eks ma 16:20 kanti siia ühe tegin,
Teeme hiljem edasi: https://www.facebook.com/groups/TeePeale/
Peab peale tegema siis tuleb edaisised mõtted . )Munches - Pealetegemised - Võtta midagi kaasa teepeale..
20 April 2018 16:30
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20 April 2018 16:22
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Täna selline, selle suunaline uudis debelakki uudistest : )
20 April 2018 16:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Jevgeni ja Taavi Rõivas on tugev lisa IsamaaLiit tarvis.
Kui selleks valmis ollakse, sest nad mõlemad hindavad ausust ja mitte populismi neil ainult normaalset töökeskonda vaja kes tõsimeelsust hinnata oskab ja ei kotiks.
Välja võiks vahetada, puhkusele ajutisele saata, uurimaks mis nad vabal ajal teevad, mõned need kes oma seltskonnas piisavalt tihti ebapuhas või / ja "liialt vähe siira kodumaa patriootlikuse" ja tõsimeelsusega silma jäänud/j
Kui selleks valmis ollakse, sest nad mõlemad hindavad ausust ja mitte populismi neil ainult normaalset töökeskonda vaja kes tõsimeelsust hinnata oskab ja ei kotiks.
Välja võiks vahetada, puhkusele ajutisele saata, uurimaks mis nad vabal ajal teevad, mõned need kes oma seltskonnas piisavalt tihti ebapuhas või / ja "liialt vähe siira kodumaa patriootlikuse" ja tõsimeelsusega silma jäänud/j
20 April 2018 15:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Ma vahest ajan inimesi sassi, kes on ühes ja samas vaimus või sarnaste vaimude koostöös. ka päriselus20 April 2018 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on Ketter Raudmets's post.
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Peaksime oma enda taimi ka ikka postitama . )20 April 2018 15:40
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Andre Teesalu nu eks lisaks terveks saamisel, tuleb ikkagi iniemstel ka aru saada, et on viamse rohuga ja selle viamseid omadusi ka tasuks neil kasutada20 April 2018 15:40
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Masing's post.
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MUl sõber ainult siis saab turvaliselt sõidetu kui kanepit on võtnud korralikult, sest muidu ajab ülejäänud liikluse arulagedus ja käitumine lkettasse ja siis kui inimene ärritunud on liikluses siis ohtlikum20 April 2018 15:39
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arusaan, sellepärast küsingi, et mitte ülepiiri minna kus piirid ees selged.
Et kuskil peaks ikka olema siin.. kui keegi mõneajajooksul eip leia siis teeme ise, ok?20 April 2018 15:37
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Kle ma ajasin sassi sind vist Kalvetiga, kumb see oli kas Kalvet või sina kes Adminni suures kanepi grupis adminn oli ja mind adminnina eemaldas ja blokeris ?20 April 2018 15:35
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Ahselles mõttes,
Kuid nagu siis peaks ikka pigem midagi ilusamat,
tegu ju loodus armastaja, taimetoitlase jms inimesega,
midagi mis ta päris olemust ka ikka väljendab, seda rooma saluuti tehnoloogiat kasutas ainult selleks, et rahvast relvastada hävitajate vastu üles neid organsieerides kiiresti, et üldse euroopa kultuurist ja sakasast midagi alles jääks ka peale järjekordset hävitamist20 April 2018 15:34
Margus Meigo replied to Erek Foster's comment.
Anthony Mark Silva yes, as just being american is not enought of proof for voting,
person have to pass the exam in where is tested if one understands what he/she is doing, as so many people who vote do not have deeper understanding about who and what they vote. So it is harmful to everyone.
person have to pass the exam in where is tested if one understands what he/she is doing, as so many people who vote do not have deeper understanding about who and what they vote. So it is harmful to everyone.
20 April 2018 15:02
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
But You great Heidi,
Greetings to Home places, hope some true irony was below borderline (You know, as we Estonians invented irnony we like to think)
Will try to fix typing later, when time, just in case if sometimg was typed in mixed up way can ask in private as well if needed.
Take Care & Thanks Maddox Rules / Maddox
Greetings to Home places, hope some true irony was below borderline (You know, as we Estonians invented irnony we like to think)
Will try to fix typing later, when time, just in case if sometimg was typed in mixed up way can ask in private as well if needed.
Take Care & Thanks Maddox Rules / Maddox
20 April 2018 09:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://web-history.blogspot.com/2018/04/maddox-rules-texas-liberals.html
http://web-history.blogspot.com/2018/04/maddox-rules-texas-liberals.html
20 April 2018 08:55
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Sherman's comment.
open, honest society,
not the ones who keep acting as they live under mafia rule
not the ones who keep acting as they live under mafia rule
20 April 2018 08:45
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Sherman's comment.
Only thing that is need to be removed for Countr voting and important things is this: "Further, voters’ identities would be completely anonymous. Though individual votes would be publicly available, voters would be masked behind an encrypted key of random numbers and letters. This would ensure privacy and security — much more than traditional ballot boxes — and reduce the possibility of voter suppression: if you can’t identify voters, you can’t target them."
as we want it to be open
as we want it to be open
20 April 2018 08:45
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Sherman's comment.
but then again, simple database with user profile personal account with mobile ID
can also be used,
sure they will get there soon
can also be used,
sure they will get there soon
20 April 2018 08:43
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Sherman's comment.
https://e-estonia.com/solutions/security-and-safety/ksi-blockchain
https://e-estonia.com/solutions/security-and-safety/ksi-blockchain
20 April 2018 08:42
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
Mayans also not liberal enought so they have eliminated most of the astecs , Peruans...
peruians i talk about, ... the acient ones... was forces sterilized most of last ones that was still left from former occupartions.
I mean.. the Peruans.. used psychdellics proper way... give kids before they become adult... and then they not wanna drink, smoke and will respect woman
this does not fit with communist and money makers norms... with ties rulez... so yes..
Your land natives most likelly have been forced to surrender similar, but natural intelligence and warm humbleheart ... perhaps ..perhaps world will be on time smart fast, to learn from it,
so they can learn from You and others about Deep difference of direction and reason between alcohol and magic mushrooms
peruians i talk about, ... the acient ones... was forces sterilized most of last ones that was still left from former occupartions.
I mean.. the Peruans.. used psychdellics proper way... give kids before they become adult... and then they not wanna drink, smoke and will respect woman
this does not fit with communist and money makers norms... with ties rulez... so yes..
Your land natives most likelly have been forced to surrender similar, but natural intelligence and warm humbleheart ... perhaps ..perhaps world will be on time smart fast, to learn from it,
so they can learn from You and others about Deep difference of direction and reason between alcohol and magic mushrooms
20 April 2018 08:38
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
lol, not meant hispanic, as the ones who invaded up to philipines.
but as the Brazil, and Your home native lands
but as the Brazil, and Your home native lands
20 April 2018 08:36
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
I know Hispanic people pretty smart, they call canabis Maria,
in here, they call it "stone" / "stoning" .. so you see right there.. different kind of intelligence and expections, aproach
Maria is giving christian and women feel to it, women is wisdom by bible (made animation to it but it is in Estonian, if ya got windows: http://arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/TarkuseTee_TuuleLee_v.1.2.exe )
in here, they call it "stone" / "stoning" .. so you see right there.. different kind of intelligence and expections, aproach
Maria is giving christian and women feel to it, women is wisdom by bible (made animation to it but it is in Estonian, if ya got windows: http://arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/TarkuseTee_TuuleLee_v.1.2.exe )
20 April 2018 08:33
Margus Meigo replied to Michael Guzelian's comment.
Joshua Collins there was some interesting thought on it, can you elaborate on it?
Proper commies are afraid of electronical as then there eventually can be proper proof left who vote for who ... so they can not hide anymore
and can control and can remove paranoya etc and other manipulation what cpomes with invizible paper voting where even name is not allowed to put, on paper
Proper commies are afraid of electronical as then there eventually can be proper proof left who vote for who ... so they can not hide anymore
and can control and can remove paranoya etc and other manipulation what cpomes with invizible paper voting where even name is not allowed to put, on paper
20 April 2018 08:29
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
they call the place Bible Belt right ?
20 April 2018 08:27
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
yeah USA got many strange apples,
http://bit.ly/USA_Apple (Google their original stock nastaq price they choose by "accident")
You just try to be nice to a locals, arent you ?
Good woman, this is nice, and humble. Smart. I like it.
Just start to preach them that drinking is liberal and smoking just plain unhelpful,
not worth the effort compared to better alternatives for whatever small need there is need... as do they want a next generation to be soft in head or proper in heart
http://bit.ly/USA_Apple (Google their original stock nastaq price they choose by "accident")
You just try to be nice to a locals, arent you ?
Good woman, this is nice, and humble. Smart. I like it.
Just start to preach them that drinking is liberal and smoking just plain unhelpful,
not worth the effort compared to better alternatives for whatever small need there is need... as do they want a next generation to be soft in head or proper in heart
http://bit.ly/USA_Apple
20 April 2018 08:27
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
One last Texas guy who ended up in Estonia, i was almoust willing to drown him to a swamp,
and one other one from USA, acted like bad version of RoChild spoiled bratt in my friends hostel,
so i had to freak him a bit,
they was like "these low level people do not know who i am why i not get special service"
well ,i i guess they was kind of as later entire section of street was bought off and hostel physically eliminated
so yea, have had some strange experiences also,
Are You immigrant in there of local few family lines?
and one other one from USA, acted like bad version of RoChild spoiled bratt in my friends hostel,
so i had to freak him a bit,
they was like "these low level people do not know who i am why i not get special service"
well ,i i guess they was kind of as later entire section of street was bought off and hostel physically eliminated
so yea, have had some strange experiences also,
Are You immigrant in there of local few family lines?
20 April 2018 08:16
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
You smart woman, if texas got half of that, then am will not worry about this place, this is like faster learning ability then soviet times hippies who needs many rounds...
20 April 2018 08:10
Margus Meigo replied to Erek Foster's comment.
amount is not as important, at all, as the number of people who understand what they vote for and how to vote to get there
20 April 2018 08:08
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
Liberals also do mushroms, as they think in mistaking, that this is liberal.. thsi is why they "try it once or few times.."
as they will prefer smoking and alcohol
as there is no resposibility and looking in to hearts ,
but when taking proper mushrooms ,then one have to become more normal.. and who likes chnages.,. when they liberal..
as they will prefer smoking and alcohol
as there is no resposibility and looking in to hearts ,
but when taking proper mushrooms ,then one have to become more normal.. and who likes chnages.,. when they liberal..
20 April 2018 08:07
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
No mushrooms are NO way liberal :D
20 April 2018 08:06
Margus Meigo replied to Dan White's comment.
Joshua Collins but do they understand the COmputer Law's
they are a bit of different
some can call and make even, virtual laws in computer for special tasks with out affecting rest of the computer , or effecting if needed ... as this is how is needed can be done, in computer, eventually,
but just people have to remind them self to take some msuhrooms in anture also and grow hairs, in top and down there as well
they are a bit of different
some can call and make even, virtual laws in computer for special tasks with out affecting rest of the computer , or effecting if needed ... as this is how is needed can be done, in computer, eventually,
but just people have to remind them self to take some msuhrooms in anture also and grow hairs, in top and down there as well
20 April 2018 08:06
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
Heidi Sarabia neeeh do do not remove, it is perfect for what fallow
20 April 2018 08:04
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
Heidi Sarabia well, once ...
one got to do it with a women, private, (with clean socks)
You already got warm weather & easy available mushrooms, so most important is in place for great power and happy value based life reorganizing
in our land it is like luck for 3 years to find few dosages for happy few ones
one got to do it with a women, private, (with clean socks)
You already got warm weather & easy available mushrooms, so most important is in place for great power and happy value based life reorganizing
in our land it is like luck for 3 years to find few dosages for happy few ones
20 April 2018 08:03
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
Dan White Yeah, for me also, the kichen part got me CPU hot
20 April 2018 08:02
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
we Do talk about psychidellic mushrooms right?
i quess this is why they kind of asked Bill to come back,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZkO779Vgjg
William Melvin Bill Hicks
i quess this is why they kind of asked Bill to come back,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZkO779Vgjg
William Melvin Bill Hicks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZkO779Vgjg
20 April 2018 07:59
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
Heidi Sarabia Estonian
And well, when they do mushrooms (top of all that from western movies..oof..it was true..), then at least not all is lost, it is like punsh of commies waiting to be saved
i mean it good way,
And well, when they do mushrooms (top of all that from western movies..oof..it was true..), then at least not all is lost, it is like punsh of commies waiting to be saved
i mean it good way,
20 April 2018 07:57
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
Heidi Sarabia smell mostly
& not respecting other person freedom to breath clean air
Passive forcing their own freedoms on others
)(about last part of question)
& not respecting other person freedom to breath clean air
Passive forcing their own freedoms on others
)(about last part of question)
20 April 2018 07:55
Margus Meigo replied to Andy Smash's comment.
too cryptic, can not get it can ya clerafy ?
20 April 2018 07:54
Margus Meigo replied to Nathan Wesely's comment.
or a human have to evolve and took responsibility and chnarge for ones actions,
also look up who voted for commies and goive them a visit in home asking why they do like this in USA soil
also look up who voted for commies and goive them a visit in home asking why they do like this in USA soil
20 April 2018 07:53
Margus Meigo replied to Nathan Wesely's comment.
i thought i had a reply here about why bots and spyware can not be no issue,
you know anything about this comment?
And it is retarded to hide for who you vote,
if yo uneed to be afraid for who you vote, perhaps Your contry have not reached the "democrasy" jet so there is no need for wotes .. have to evolve first, as a nation above gaveman
you know anything about this comment?
And it is retarded to hide for who you vote,
if yo uneed to be afraid for who you vote, perhaps Your contry have not reached the "democrasy" jet so there is no need for wotes .. have to evolve first, as a nation above gaveman
20 April 2018 07:52
Margus Meigo replied to Arya Boudaie's comment.
Nathan Wesely PS: It is FEMALE ANATOMY, just in case You wondered..
20 April 2018 07:49
Margus Meigo replied to Arya Boudaie's comment.
Nathan Wesely Why You clown Reading what is meand to Albhabet guy ?
He's level will get it easy after a time
He's level will get it easy after a time
20 April 2018 07:48
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
Heidi Sarabia are they turning liberal there also or are they turning to state for help to eliminate last liberal actions like drinking and sleeping around with dirty socks, talking crap about family, eating no magic mushrooms nor peyotte etc?
20 April 2018 07:47
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
Heidi Sarabia no worryes woman
20 April 2018 07:45
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
Kind of the ones that Leninists massicared
with Raspotin top of that
with Raspotin top of that
20 April 2018 07:44
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
Heidi Sarabia The kind who is a bit similar to Enlightened Intellectualist with touch ow morals and Quackers wisdom and apprishiation for higher values of women and honorable actions by man, also in private
20 April 2018 07:44
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
How is Texas ?
20 April 2018 07:41
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
no worry as long ya with me in comments allis good Heidi
20 April 2018 07:41
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
thats alright Girl, are you the "equalist" or are you Royalst?
20 April 2018 07:40
Margus Meigo replied to Heidi Sarabia's comment.
Just for me, can You please explain thsi to me without chciken & sause ?
20 April 2018 07:40
Margus Meigo replied to Arya Boudaie's comment.
Hooly... You Work in Albhabet arya?
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Software Engineer at Google
Past: Brandeis University and Kyruus
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Then You intell level should for sure, take care, to understand , how REAl voting can be made and should be made proper and safe, take contact
explain me in PM your wish, so people reading my PM will understand what kind of answer You need and what part of world view needs to be confirmed
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Software Engineer at Google
Past: Brandeis University and Kyruus
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Then You intell level should for sure, take care, to understand , how REAl voting can be made and should be made proper and safe, take contact
explain me in PM your wish, so people reading my PM will understand what kind of answer You need and what part of world view needs to be confirmed
20 April 2018 07:39
Margus Meigo replied to Arya Boudaie's comment.
But wil ltry to look that in near days, please try to remind me in PM and in here,
Thanks for video Arya, but if you wish, come in private i tell you why to preserve freedom and love in world we need to cut of head for these kind of guys if he does that in purpose,
in fact if i think about it to strong he will just be gone,
as he does not have even spiritual protection or backround as most dark ones, whos work he with sensire heart look and gentle backround is put to play.
IF YOU VOTE WILL BE REGISTERED OPEN, THEN YOU CAN SEE IF YOU WVOTE REGISTERED IN FINAL IS THE SAME AS THE ONE YOU GOT IN YOUR PAPER... IF YOU DO NOT HAVEELECTRONICAL BACKING ON IT THEN NO WAY NEWER EVER CAN NO ONE PROOVE FOR WHAT YOU WOTE, OR WHY
, solved it ?
Thanks for video Arya, but if you wish, come in private i tell you why to preserve freedom and love in world we need to cut of head for these kind of guys if he does that in purpose,
in fact if i think about it to strong he will just be gone,
as he does not have even spiritual protection or backround as most dark ones, whos work he with sensire heart look and gentle backround is put to play.
IF YOU VOTE WILL BE REGISTERED OPEN, THEN YOU CAN SEE IF YOU WVOTE REGISTERED IN FINAL IS THE SAME AS THE ONE YOU GOT IN YOUR PAPER... IF YOU DO NOT HAVEELECTRONICAL BACKING ON IT THEN NO WAY NEWER EVER CAN NO ONE PROOVE FOR WHAT YOU WOTE, OR WHY
, solved it ?
20 April 2018 07:36
Margus Meigo replied to Arya Boudaie's comment.
aa fuck this guy is total communist fassist bastard, he is against people puting their name on voting bill.
i will get to pissed to even look after that for now,
have to meet my mother in few hours,
will not wanna get to pissed off and worked out for some jacker
Talks like some britist propacandist working in soviet instructions
i will get to pissed to even look after that for now,
have to meet my mother in few hours,
will not wanna get to pissed off and worked out for some jacker
Talks like some britist propacandist working in soviet instructions
20 April 2018 07:33
Margus Meigo replied to Arya Boudaie's comment.
All thing of hes argument falled a apart before 37 second already, but wil ltry a bit more
20 April 2018 07:31
Margus Meigo replied to Arya Boudaie's comment.
also he does not have a beard, so what this women who cuts hair or makes hair blonde with poisoning head.. what they can know.. but will hear just for a bit
20 April 2018 07:28
Margus Meigo replied to Arya Boudaie's comment.
i can not hear videos that have Lie in header or as topic
20 April 2018 07:28
Margus Meigo replied to Cory Anderson's comment.
am working on it as well,
fro now most people feel
being away from me, but will turn int around some time
fro now most people feel
being away from me, but will turn int around some time
20 April 2018 07:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
scanning brain basically, taking information by screens,
is so basic old idea,
have you look the deepness of browsers in futre,
what they can do
with co operation of hardware
of what none of basic humans basically can not say, that they would understand
what else all these vibrations can do,
besides the cover what they are made for: eg sending internet information bytes
is so basic old idea,
have you look the deepness of browsers in futre,
what they can do
with co operation of hardware
of what none of basic humans basically can not say, that they would understand
what else all these vibrations can do,
besides the cover what they are made for: eg sending internet information bytes
20 April 2018 07:26
Margus Meigo commented on Sit on It and rotate's photo.
It does not help if You have added some apps
in to your brain, trojanhorses.
I recomend to put information what is needed, in to your brain, so FB will get more of what it needs
in to your brain, trojanhorses.
I recomend to put information what is needed, in to your brain, so FB will get more of what it needs
20 April 2018 07:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i mean, i really do, about taking action about trump, As Estonian i should be provided free resources for building up society and regulating presidency and meeting Kim,
But instead have to be blessed with social services, luckily the 75 after weed & gifts, keeps me alive, for sometime, but not so much for actual project related work, to hire other people for doing what is needed for what i do , to become real and factual, accessable by these who can benafit from it
But instead have to be blessed with social services, luckily the 75 after weed & gifts, keeps me alive, for sometime, but not so much for actual project related work, to hire other people for doing what is needed for what i do , to become real and factual, accessable by these who can benafit from it
20 April 2018 06:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i mean, i really do, about taking action about trump, As Estonian i should be provided free resources for building up society and regulating presidency and meeting Kim,
But instead have to be blessed with social services, luckily the 75 after weed & gifts, keeps me alive, for sometime, but not so much for actual project related work, to hire other people for doing what is needed for what i do , to become real and factual, accessable by these who can benafit from it
New Yorgi Eesti Maja - New York Estonian House
But instead have to be blessed with social services, luckily the 75 after weed & gifts, keeps me alive, for sometime, but not so much for actual project related work, to hire other people for doing what is needed for what i do , to become real and factual, accessable by these who can benafit from it
New Yorgi Eesti Maja - New York Estonian House
20 April 2018 06:29
Margus Meigo commented on Maddox Rules's post.
I hear you,
I feel same in Estonia
I feel same in Estonia
20 April 2018 06:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
UN too large to be independant and uncordinated
20 April 2018 06:23
Margus Meigo commented on Maddox Rules's post.
Lol, in Estonia sotsalists and liberal communist first forced to make voting private so can not be seen who is voted by who even for gov, and then this hard expensive system is used for attack to remove e-voting... as "they might chnage votes.. we not know.."
but we should have cler register ov voting system..
another "cannabis group" in eastonia called "Ok democrasy" or somthing will try to give ability for people to firect their life by telling : WE Do whatever You want and ask... system is aginst us but we wanan give proper ability for people to vote... on anything... (they even mentioned how media can manipulate people to vote against anything or how political party's are against Death benalty but if given option to people they would be for it.. so the sample of worry..)"
... was not sure if the ysupported the rule to the end, that they are for anything .. ... they did say that he will be angry against people if the yvote what he not want but will anyway do it..
that kind of online voting also should be relooked.. and cosidered parallel there,
from system as my mind, where pople have land and virtual structures and values that need to be for purifing human
including taking magic mushrooms in childhood, before learning about cannabis.
(but our real aim was , for Estonia, to give total Voting for entire planet above UN )
but we should have cler register ov voting system..
another "cannabis group" in eastonia called "Ok democrasy" or somthing will try to give ability for people to firect their life by telling : WE Do whatever You want and ask... system is aginst us but we wanan give proper ability for people to vote... on anything... (they even mentioned how media can manipulate people to vote against anything or how political party's are against Death benalty but if given option to people they would be for it.. so the sample of worry..)"
... was not sure if the ysupported the rule to the end, that they are for anything .. ... they did say that he will be angry against people if the yvote what he not want but will anyway do it..
that kind of online voting also should be relooked.. and cosidered parallel there,
from system as my mind, where pople have land and virtual structures and values that need to be for purifing human
including taking magic mushrooms in childhood, before learning about cannabis.
(but our real aim was , for Estonia, to give total Voting for entire planet above UN )
20 April 2018 06:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Kui erigrupp siis priv või ka saata, jätmaks mulje, et privaaatsus on oleamas20 April 2018 06:13
Margus Meigo commented on Elver Loho's post.
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Nats vale post pole vä
Või liialt natsionalistlik
Oled ise ka SotsDemokratlik või NatsionaalSotsalistlik ?20 April 2018 06:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Kunstimeelsele:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214789091057598
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214789091057598
20 April 2018 06:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Loodetavasti saadakse sonadega maalitud pilti aru ja siis selle joonsituse lopuni nägemisel saadakse pildist ka aru ja miks ei ole süüd20 April 2018 05:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Loodan, et postituse polizei eip hakka siin undama jälle, et ei tohi oma meelsuse postitusi ja lisareaalsusi postititada,
Kui antke priv teada kui mingi kamm on:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/1021478859788526920 April 2018 05:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
NIisama lisapost:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214788597885269
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214788597885269
20 April 2018 05:40
Margus Meigo commented on Sotsiaaldemokraatlikud Meemid's photo.
Miks me peaks igat võõrast neegrit teadma,
kas tahad öelda, et me eurovisiooni lauljast must mees teab kes on terrence mackenna ja Allan Watts ja oskab nende väärtustel vahet teha ja need paremaks mõelda ?
Mis tase siis see on kes seda ei tegele, ei tea mitte tripparitest Antony Demello jesuiiti ega rabbi Manis F. 'ga kursis
Sellised tüübid,
elavad planeedil kes neid ei tea(arusaadavalt), ja siis teevad teiste norimiseks meeme kus nad isegi siis eip selgitaks, kes to on ja milleks ta oluline, nii üks kui teine neeger imitatsioon
kas tahad öelda, et me eurovisiooni lauljast must mees teab kes on terrence mackenna ja Allan Watts ja oskab nende väärtustel vahet teha ja need paremaks mõelda ?
Mis tase siis see on kes seda ei tegele, ei tea mitte tripparitest Antony Demello jesuiiti ega rabbi Manis F. 'ga kursis
Sellised tüübid,
elavad planeedil kes neid ei tea(arusaadavalt), ja siis teevad teiste norimiseks meeme kus nad isegi siis eip selgitaks, kes to on ja milleks ta oluline, nii üks kui teine neeger imitatsioon
20 April 2018 05:27
Margus Meigo commented on Sotsiaaldemokraatlikud Meemid's photo.
Mis selle naise nimi on kes seda kirjutas ja misk peaks lipsumeeste peal silm puhkama, muretsev ju ?
20 April 2018 05:22
Margus Meigo commented on Otsekõne.ee's live video.
See Naine kes seda reaalsust üleval hoiab, on ikka tuus ja kurb samal ajal
20 April 2018 05:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Siin teine postituse sisu mida peab selgitama, et ei tohi kasutada noid aineid ja aju niisama chillimas hoida..
selles mõttes ,et igavusest teha ,vaid alat ihea suunaliseks, tieste jaosk võtad, et teiste jaosk paremaks saada,
Muidu aju "midaiganes genmereerida võib "
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Lihtsa diileri ja kanepi müüa vahe ka on VÄGA erinev
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214786349149052
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//Rat park video ka hiljem juurde sekata
selles mõttes ,et igavusest teha ,vaid alat ihea suunaliseks, tieste jaosk võtad, et teiste jaosk paremaks saada,
Muidu aju "midaiganes genmereerida võib "
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Lihtsa diileri ja kanepi müüa vahe ka on VÄGA erinev
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214786349149052
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//Rat park video ka hiljem juurde sekata
20 April 2018 05:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aa siin (postituse sisu)
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214788594445183
(tekstina)
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214788594445183
(tekstina)
20 April 2018 05:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Selle video "main pstitus".. kuhu ma selle panin nüüd..
https://www.facebook.com/otsekone/videos/371725749994146
https://www.facebook.com/otsekone/videos/371725749994146
20 April 2018 05:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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kuidas see laul käiski20 April 2018 05:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
Nikotiinil vb pahas mõttes miskit puudu,
..ja siis kuna see ei tekita sõltuvust vajalikku, vaid nikotini pealt läbi e-sigareti, (Estonia sigarettes) saab liikuda peatselt teiste ainete peale suurel hulgal...
siis see kahjulik suurfirmadele... ja siis raha küll, et tellida...
neid kes ... globaalselt konkurenturgu aitaks takistada, seni kuni saab ja siis ku iei saa siis liituda ise ka paratamatult ja uues maailmas proovida tippu ronida, kuid kui juba tipus ollakse, siis.. siis poel mõtet konkurente kes monopoli vähendaks, turule lasta, see ju elementaarne äri ABC kui ainult ärimeeste või raharmastajate mitte humnataarianite-inimtervise ja hingeolukoraa pärast muretsejatega tegu ...siis kui viimastega tegu, siis nad oma raha ja toodangu suunda paratamatult vähemlat räägiks, et prooviks, proovib liikuda tervisliku, õigete ainete peale ja algsed jäljed kunagi likvideerib lõplikult paha suunalised enda toetamise osas tehastele kes ainult kahjulikust toodavad ilma ilmselge suunata liikuda heasuunaliseks, ja ainult üksikud viimased pahad võivad kontsntreeruda, koonduda omakeski, ja siis need suured omavahel kui teistelt õigus võetud, tavarahvalt, ja ainult viimastele rikastele pahadele ja eriõiguslastele ligipääs nikotitinile ja siis nad omavahel mõelgu välja järgmised sammud mis moodi suuri ja tugevaid iniemsi mõjutada ja nikotiinist loobuma sundida...
mandil vb hea, aga see mis puudu , kui piipu panna,
Nikotiinil vb paha see mis puudu,
kuid mant partamatult parem kui niko
isegi oma hea puudumisega... sest aine enda olemus hea suunaline, niko enda olemus aga kasutuses nende poolt kes hea takistavatega koosmõjus suures osas enamus avalikult, kuni 2020 ni20 April 2018 05:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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mõtisklen kõva häälega,
oot vaatan edasi,
naine proovib olukorda siluda sääl siis jälle sõbralikult ,juid lopuks vist kõik jõuavad ühisele tarkusele, moment veel20 April 2018 04:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Ja siis head inimesed kes meelega fakte vahale visatakse...
ja siis ringiratast päris ulme ühe vea lause ühe järgi ütlevad kolinal reaalsus laguneb..
11:36 // oot kas ta ütles vastassuunalise pooel faktid nagu ühe sama põhjuse tõendina või,
et imedub halvemini esigaretist pahad ained ja samas on palju kättesaadavam, et saad igal pool teha...
Et miks siis nagu NEID koos näitena tuua,
see ei ole ei ühe ega teise suuna/poole heaks ju hea20 April 2018 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
meil kanepi vastaseid kes neid asju rohkem uurinud,.. .veider
20 April 2018 04:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Umbes nagu piibu keelaks, või suitsupaberid,
või muud paberid millega saab..
Suured spetisalistid avaliku elu ees... erakonna avamises, suur aktivistid koos aastaid teemades ja resurssi... ja siis nad keegi pole täielikult uurinud seda.. hmm
või muud paberid millega saab..
Suured spetisalistid avaliku elu ees... erakonna avamises, suur aktivistid koos aastaid teemades ja resurssi... ja siis nad keegi pole täielikult uurinud seda.. hmm
20 April 2018 04:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
E sigareti teema..
Nu igatahes, regulatsioon peaks olema MIS E SIGARETIS on,
mitte ei sa aMASINAT keelata, utoopia.
Ja miks mis ainetteed
Nu igatahes, regulatsioon peaks olema MIS E SIGARETIS on,
mitte ei sa aMASINAT keelata, utoopia.
Ja miks mis ainetteed
20 April 2018 04:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi juhul kui suitsu edasi kimatakse ning väär patumeelsus samas alles jäetakse oma Aadetesse, siis SELLELE inimesele nikotiin Väga ohtlik, hoides teda kurjuse Liinil kinni. kergemini,
ja reaalsuse, Loovuse liinid hoitakse nikotiiniga tal koos potensiaalse valele võimule allumisega
// kuid nagu ütlesin, et suur kasutamine ,võib headuse üle keeramist veel mitu sammu edasi viia, nii, et ta siin ühiskonnas ka sundijate endi vastu võimeline ajutise kaitse rakendamisel habaid näitama,
kuid kuna neid projekte kallis uuesti otsast peale audentselt teha, siis päris kontrollerid ei saa reageerida ka, uuesti alustamisega.
Kuna osadesse komuunidesse pole lihtne pikaajaliselt usaldusväärselt sisse kasvada, punameelselt,
Sinimeelsed muidugi samu asju lopuks teavad, kuid ...
Siinkohal ma ka, nii meie vana kui ühe sSaarimaa vana lipu värvisarnase lipu võtab ikka suht kindlat, Sini Rohe Valge, või valge mis eraldab sinist ja rohelist?
ja reaalsuse, Loovuse liinid hoitakse nikotiiniga tal koos potensiaalse valele võimule allumisega
// kuid nagu ütlesin, et suur kasutamine ,võib headuse üle keeramist veel mitu sammu edasi viia, nii, et ta siin ühiskonnas ka sundijate endi vastu võimeline ajutise kaitse rakendamisel habaid näitama,
kuid kuna neid projekte kallis uuesti otsast peale audentselt teha, siis päris kontrollerid ei saa reageerida ka, uuesti alustamisega.
Kuna osadesse komuunidesse pole lihtne pikaajaliselt usaldusväärselt sisse kasvada, punameelselt,
Sinimeelsed muidugi samu asju lopuks teavad, kuid ...
Siinkohal ma ka, nii meie vana kui ühe sSaarimaa vana lipu värvisarnase lipu võtab ikka suht kindlat, Sini Rohe Valge, või valge mis eraldab sinist ja rohelist?
20 April 2018 04:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Igast valude ja füüsika ravide jah, need ka Eesmärgid, kuid kui enseparandamine poel eesmärk, vaid enda korda tegemine, et siis valesti edasi elada, pole ka õige parim lahendus, kui see võimalik oleks,
kuid kuna kanepit õigesti kasutades paratamatult hakkab hea poole kiskuma, siis ei muututa mitte heaks vaid pehmeks ja pehmest muututakse ametnikuks ja ametnikust korrapidajaks ja korrapidajast säilitades eelmisi puudujääke muututakse üleolevaks või kes kaistseisundis end ükspäev leiab, või mõlemad korraga,
Nu ja siis meil selline ment nagu Türis vanasti oli, kes ütles ka suvalisele kainele esimesele karistatule otse välja, vist teiste kuuldes "Mul vaja tuusiku jaosk veel üks ära toppida, kongi, puhkusele minekuks, nii, Sina lähed viinaravile"
ja olgi norm täis püütud, töö tehtud ja sai puhkusele minna, Tasku Mendiks kutsuti.
Kohalikud teavad vanakoolikad
kuid kuna kanepit õigesti kasutades paratamatult hakkab hea poole kiskuma, siis ei muututa mitte heaks vaid pehmeks ja pehmest muututakse ametnikuks ja ametnikust korrapidajaks ja korrapidajast säilitades eelmisi puudujääke muututakse üleolevaks või kes kaistseisundis end ükspäev leiab, või mõlemad korraga,
Nu ja siis meil selline ment nagu Türis vanasti oli, kes ütles ka suvalisele kainele esimesele karistatule otse välja, vist teiste kuuldes "Mul vaja tuusiku jaosk veel üks ära toppida, kongi, puhkusele minekuks, nii, Sina lähed viinaravile"
ja olgi norm täis püütud, töö tehtud ja sai puhkusele minna, Tasku Mendiks kutsuti.
Kohalikud teavad vanakoolikad
20 April 2018 04:42
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20 April 2018 04:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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reaalsuse loppemine on see kust reaalsusalgab
__//See oli mõeldiud alustuspildi kellaaja suhtes, et selles kohas lõppes see point, see täpsem kui see kui algusaeg öelda, kui üks ajafixeerimis punkt leida//
Kuid tegelikult see Kalvet suht sõbralik tundub mul isegi, kuigi Ta vast selle meelsuse poolt viimanekord oli, kes mind Kanepi Adminnide grupist välja mitte ainult arvata, vaid rünnata ja välja ise füüsiliselt lükkama tõttas otse arutamise ja arusaamise proovimise asemel, Vist ajutiselt isegi blokkis mitu korda nii grupist kui isiklikust suhtlusest, mitte vastamisega. Mitte koos peale tegemise soove lahenduseks pakkuda vms, ei mingil ajal. Ega adminne Nii palju ka polnud... ja siis MU OMA venna, ta arvas, et peab "Hääletama" ja ma eip oleks nagu tohtinud usaldada tüüpi kes nagu saialille manti kasvatas ammu ajal kui see tal üle pea kasvada jõudis... ning kelle deep chill reaalsus on rahulikus ise ja ainult intelligentsed normaalmeelsed meemid. Jms, lisaks saab silmadega füüsilist reaalsust ta muuta ja liigutada ning veerandi happega päevi trippida.
(kui üleliia nendehulgas kellega kokku hoidma peaks võimutsema hakatakse külmalt üle võrgu, see nagu beebilõusta laulus, kodunatsi käitumine, sest mitte võõra vaid pere suhtes, kes Aines on, reageeritaks,e mitte perevälisesse. )
// Kuid yeah, hea, et nad Enamusegi video vastu pidasid.
Ta suts sellise ...selle vaimu mis Õrnalt vahest otseselt samas suunas mis "Kultuurilehe KesKus" JukuKalleRaid oma joodiku lembuse suunaga, Kalvet nagu sama meelsusgea seltskonnas lubas rääkida neil, kes tubaka meelsuse suunas reklaamhinge poolselt asja võimaluse õhku pani näitamaks mis poole ja suuna Helemet valib...
või Helvet,
Ja nu siis moned küll seltskonnas suunasid kuid näitas mis suur osa kaasa räägkis, ilma, et keegi oleks julgenud sellele vastu astuda tarkusega, sest ülekaal oleks ründav olnud,
Oleks koheselt usnutanud aksepteerida, et on kurjuse ja ... mitte headuse,
Kui enne arvati, et alkohol on
kurjusest,
siis ma nii tahsin jurde rääkida, et kas See kellest Eestlased filmi tegi, kui ta maale tuli ja talu otsima hakkas mis talle kohe viisakalt orgunniti, filmi alguses, näidates Looja võimu läbi mis kadaliku seni kuni siiralt ja õigesti käitusid said veel süsteemiga hakkama, isegi kui nad inimarusaamatud olid,
kuid seni kuni päris ülem level või level ise kohale tuleb... ebaheast, siis nagu ... nu jah, kavalants oli sedakarva "mees" kui filmist vaadata saate õige lisakõla sellele.. ku iseda tundub, et raamatu lugejad vist ei saanud hästi aru.20 April 2018 03:39
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EI, kohe varsti wikipediast vaatan ja ütlen, või erowidist ja experience repordist20 April 2018 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on Otsekõne.ee's live video.
Ehk ütleks ka mis vahe on kui juba räägid neist. Niiolulises videos... ja mis see suur erinevus on, ikka Jumala aitanmiseks,
20 April 2018 03:20
Margus Meigo commented on Otsekõne.ee's live video.
Fakt on selles, et skisofreenia EI teata mis "haigus" see on, see sama sõna nagu "narkootikum" tõe peitmiseks, ja sama sildi alla pannakse erinevad asjad, samamoodi nagu "narkootikumi" sõna alla pannakse erinevad asjad.
Ei hakka pikalt siin kommentaaris lahkama seda,
Ei hakka pikalt siin kommentaaris lahkama seda,
20 April 2018 03:09
Margus Meigo commented on Otsekõne.ee's photo.
Ega see ometi kuuskuuskuute eip tähenda varjatult nagu vandenõunikud teavad rääkida :p
20 April 2018 02:44
Margus Meigo commented on Otsekõne.ee's live video.
Kuna tulnukatel-vaimudel nagunii, lihtne reguleerida mis info levib ja mida nähakse, millele tähelepanu pööratakse... kuid selleks lisaks kommunistid-internatsionaalid saavad ka suht kergesti reguleerida mis teemasi nähakse või mitte, ... et kuidas selle vastu "võidelda" ... et mis strateegiad ja jõud, resursid ja rahad ... ja kes maalt maale inimesteni käima hakkavad kes pole tehnokraadid. teavitamaks mis oluline asi on mille üle peab keegi hääletama ja miks.
Suurel hulgal inimestel pole võimalust ega oskust tegeleda E-hääletusega Eestis, üllatavalt suur hulk just vajalikud inimesed kes elu tunnevad ei tunne neid vahendeid.
Eks igal tehnoinimesel peaks olema kohustus ka 10 ne konna tava maainimesega rääkida, kes pole netis nii aktiivsed, sest enamus inimesi ei ole netis aktiivsed.
Linnainimesed muidugi omamoodi lugu.. ja tööst ülekoormatud inimesed omamoodi lugu.. ja depresioonis või masenduses, eluprobleemides inimesed muidugi omamoodi lugu
enamusi selliste asjade tarvis on vaja lahendusi, et kuidas selgeks esiteks teha , erinevatele subgruppidele, et millega tegu... eri maailmale eri moodi, ja ... nu siis saab alles päris hääletusest rääkida
Suurel hulgal inimestel pole võimalust ega oskust tegeleda E-hääletusega Eestis, üllatavalt suur hulk just vajalikud inimesed kes elu tunnevad ei tunne neid vahendeid.
Eks igal tehnoinimesel peaks olema kohustus ka 10 ne konna tava maainimesega rääkida, kes pole netis nii aktiivsed, sest enamus inimesi ei ole netis aktiivsed.
Linnainimesed muidugi omamoodi lugu.. ja tööst ülekoormatud inimesed omamoodi lugu.. ja depresioonis või masenduses, eluprobleemides inimesed muidugi omamoodi lugu
enamusi selliste asjade tarvis on vaja lahendusi, et kuidas selgeks esiteks teha , erinevatele subgruppidele, et millega tegu... eri maailmale eri moodi, ja ... nu siis saab alles päris hääletusest rääkida
20 April 2018 02:27
Margus Meigo commented on Otsekõne.ee's live video.
Rahva enamuse toetus ka pole alati lahendus, vajalik on ka eliidi väljaselgitamine kes rohkem arusaab mida vaja ja kelle hääl rohkem maksab. Igaühe hääl ei ole võrdne enne seda kui arusaadakse.
Moraalsust ja suunda peab ETTE näitama alustuseks, mitte ainult massi järgi liikuma, siis juba ette feil ja lihtsalt trollitav.
Kuid teie enda puhas see arusaam ,algne idee, et AINULT seda teed mida hääletama pannakse, see muidugi eeldab, et seda teha ei saa ja kui suudad hoida samat joont, et jätkad rahva hääletuse täideviimist, siis see ka kiiduväärt,
mõtle kui rahvas enamuses, suurte rahga rahastatud meedia poolt, saab palju hääletajaid kokku mis hääletavad lehe sulgemise suunas ja erakonna likvideerimise suunas.. et selles osas tuleb ka arvestada, kui neil on 45% poolt... 27% vastu ja 28% erapooletu... et siis ... mis siis teha ?
Moraalsust ja suunda peab ETTE näitama alustuseks, mitte ainult massi järgi liikuma, siis juba ette feil ja lihtsalt trollitav.
Kuid teie enda puhas see arusaam ,algne idee, et AINULT seda teed mida hääletama pannakse, see muidugi eeldab, et seda teha ei saa ja kui suudad hoida samat joont, et jätkad rahva hääletuse täideviimist, siis see ka kiiduväärt,
mõtle kui rahvas enamuses, suurte rahga rahastatud meedia poolt, saab palju hääletajaid kokku mis hääletavad lehe sulgemise suunas ja erakonna likvideerimise suunas.. et selles osas tuleb ka arvestada, kui neil on 45% poolt... 27% vastu ja 28% erapooletu... et siis ... mis siis teha ?
20 April 2018 02:17
Margus Meigo commented on Otsekõne.ee's live video.
Tänapäeval peab avatud sissepääsuga hääletustel olema hääled avalikud, see hästi elementaarne, seda juba paar valimist tagasi ajada proovisime, et salaja hääletus lõppeks. Salaja võib hääletada usaldusväärse pundi omavahelisel hääletusel kus enam pole inimesed vaid kogukonna arvamus oluline, värvikujunud.
20 April 2018 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on Otsekõne.ee's live video.
Kuidas ikkagi võimalik on, et kanepi lehed ja foorumid, kus on kokku 10 neid tuhandeid inimesi, et kokku ainult paar sõpra sai kohale tulla? Täiesti müstiline, Su nimi nii tuntud, et see ise oleks pidanud Su FB sina postitusest "tulge levikasse" juba rohkem inimesi kohale tooma
Muidugi samamoodi on ka selle videoga olnud, mida väga aktiivsete postituste all jaganud, ja 390 vaatamist on siiani sellel maal kuhu see pidama jäi:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377
Isegi lambi ühte klikki pole juurde tulnud, suht veider :D
(testing-testing siin ka...)
Muidugi samamoodi on ka selle videoga olnud, mida väga aktiivsete postituste all jaganud, ja 390 vaatamist on siiani sellel maal kuhu see pidama jäi:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377
Isegi lambi ühte klikki pole juurde tulnud, suht veider :D
(testing-testing siin ka...)
20 April 2018 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on Otsekõne.ee's live video.
Kuidas See muidu erineb petitsioonide ja praeguste Eesti seadusandluste hääletuste lehtedega võrreldes ja kus see keskkond täpsemalt asub ?
20 April 2018 02:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mul see otse valimiste teema ka juba mõttes arendmaisel juba veerand oma elust, Nii füüsilises kui elektroonilises formaadis.
20 April 2018 01:56
Margus Meigo commented on Otsekõne.ee's live video.
Mul kohe FB algusest saati eemaldati reklaamimis õigus, kuni siiani, 10a hiljem.
Konto algusajal isegi sulgeti paar kolm korda, (tol ajal ma väga rahulik olin FB'is, omasin ka kõige popimat Erowidi lehte/gruppi mis sulgeti)
Konto algusajal isegi sulgeti paar kolm korda, (tol ajal ma väga rahulik olin FB'is, omasin ka kõige popimat Erowidi lehte/gruppi mis sulgeti)
20 April 2018 01:54
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kasak's post.
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Ratas pole nii popp noortehulgas veel olnud, pea 400 000 vaatamist mõne päevaga paari video peale kokku,
Noortekeeli Rattal ratas keeleall.20 April 2018 01:29
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( Tuleb arvestada ka Selle videoga: https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377 )
Ehk kui otse valetada, siis aju jääb tõrkuma, aga kui meelega mängitakse kokku saatejuhtiga, küsimusi, siis vahepealsed lülid ise inimaju täidab ja see mõjusam vale veelgi.
Lisaks kui otse ise valet pole öeldud vaid ise seda lastud inimese peas mõelda, siis ei saa ka sedusandlusega pahuksisse sattuda
ja seda kuntsi reguleerib greeka-rooma ühiskond, poliitika, mis kõik neilt tulnukatelt tuleb20 April 2018 01:28
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Arutuleb saada ka ühiskonna "paraleel jutust"
"paralel talk" ehk kus räägitakse seadusekeeles üht,
omameelsetele teist, ja rahva eelarvamustele ja vastastele-pooldajatele harju kesmiselt midagi teist, (kõike samal ajal, kõrghariduse kuntst ausalt valetada, poliitikutel tihti)
nii, et rahuldatud saaks kõik ja agenda liigub kindlas suunas.
Alles siis saab usaldada neid ku inad AUSALT rääkima hakkavad ka kanepi ja seente, eriti psühedeelikumide kasust,
Sest kõik muu muidu nad vabandavad välja, et nii ja naa, faktiliselt nii ja naa ja otse ei ütlenud nii ja naa...
aga rahvas kes kuuleb yhte ja teist sõna mõtleb vahepealse ise välja, nii nagu see peidetult sisse söödetakse neile..
Ja siis kui jäätakse lünk, kus inimene ISE arvab et ta ISE sai aru.. et "kanep... ja fetanüül... oo siis yhest vist teiseni viib tee..."
et siis see "arusaam" eriti sügavalt veel neile endale jääb ja selest ei jää märget ka...
seega tuleb tunnetada ka kuidas mis laused ühiskonna erinevates hingedes tõlgenduvad ja
selleks, et valesti ei tõlgenduks tuleb neil meelega seda suunata heas suunas, seda aga kui nad ei tee, siis nad pasiivselt aitavad kurjale kaasa,
sest mitmed pereisad ja emad on paanikas ja suures tülis oma lapsega kriisis, sest proovivad armastuses oma last kaitsta pahade eest... ja aina fataalsemaid käitumisi võtavad ette mis omakorda lapsed ja vanemad üksteisest rohkem lahku ajab, kõik sellepärast, et tõtt ei julgetud rääkida, et normaalsed vanemad (ja perekond üldse) peaks koos lastega seeni keskmise trippima alustuseks
kui reaalse normaalsuse ligi soovitakse saada.20 April 2018 01:25
Margus Meigo replied to Pille Riin Kaur's comment.
Rein Russak Mitte, et need ained pahad oleks, aga suts vale kogus vales kohas.
Väike kogus LSD'd oleks mõistlikum sellises kohas, et aju paremini toimiks
Mõnel aga erguteid kerges koguses vaja,
Kuid kui liiga palju võtta, siis ju pole austusväärne kui teised kõik tõsimeelsed nagu pulgad nii võib jääda mulje, et olukorda ei austata, lisaks tähelepanu hajub ja siis pole võimalik kõigele korraga vastata abstraktsete pikkade monoloogide peale.
Tagatipuks on isiklikud solvumised ja üksteisest eraldumised.
Oleks nad selle kena daamiga sääl ta kõrval privaatselt, hämaras valguses MDMA'd või psühhedeelikume-hallotsionigeene võtnud, siis teine asi, või mõnes filosoofieerimise ringis, eratöös,
või kui kogu saal korraga võtab
aga sedasi kaamera valguses võib ebahea mulje jätta MDMA ja teiste ainete osas, samas kui hästi läheb siis ehk seda saab hoopis taevitustööna kasutada nende ainete propageerimiseks.
Ega päris õiget ainelist ja šamaanilikku kogemust saagi videosse võtta, sest need on enamasti tundelised ja vaimsed kogemused mille jäädvustamiseks meie kaamerad veel ei küündi
Väike kogus LSD'd oleks mõistlikum sellises kohas, et aju paremini toimiks
Mõnel aga erguteid kerges koguses vaja,
Kuid kui liiga palju võtta, siis ju pole austusväärne kui teised kõik tõsimeelsed nagu pulgad nii võib jääda mulje, et olukorda ei austata, lisaks tähelepanu hajub ja siis pole võimalik kõigele korraga vastata abstraktsete pikkade monoloogide peale.
Tagatipuks on isiklikud solvumised ja üksteisest eraldumised.
Oleks nad selle kena daamiga sääl ta kõrval privaatselt, hämaras valguses MDMA'd või psühhedeelikume-hallotsionigeene võtnud, siis teine asi, või mõnes filosoofieerimise ringis, eratöös,
või kui kogu saal korraga võtab
aga sedasi kaamera valguses võib ebahea mulje jätta MDMA ja teiste ainete osas, samas kui hästi läheb siis ehk seda saab hoopis taevitustööna kasutada nende ainete propageerimiseks.
Ega päris õiget ainelist ja šamaanilikku kogemust saagi videosse võtta, sest need on enamasti tundelised ja vaimsed kogemused mille jäädvustamiseks meie kaamerad veel ei küündi
20 April 2018 00:16
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20 April 2018 00:06
Margus Meigo commented on Sten-Hans Vihmar's video.
Veider fenomen, et teises kontos üleslaetud videol , ka täpselt 191 000 vaatamist samal ajal:
https://www.facebook.com/janar.janar/videos/10213828523401928/
https://www.facebook.com/janar.janar/videos/10213828523401928/
20 April 2018 00:06
Margus Meigo commented on Janar Olen's video.
Veider fenomen, et teises kontos üleslaetud videol , ka täpselt 191 000 vaatamist samal ajal:
https://www.facebook.com/stenhansvihmar/videos/10213150842897926/
Mismoodi seda selgitada, millise IT loogikaga
Kui FB video HASh tabeli järgi neid vaatamisi just üheks ei lisaks.. siis veel..
https://www.facebook.com/stenhansvihmar/videos/10213150842897926/
Mismoodi seda selgitada, millise IT loogikaga
Kui FB video HASh tabeli järgi neid vaatamisi just üheks ei lisaks.. siis veel..
20 April 2018 00:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jumalaseadusi, mis laste hinged surma saadavad mitu generatsiooni, neid lastakse niisama naljatades üle, naljaviluks, mõnuga ja kerglaselt,
kuid miskit kribu mida pastakaga saab kergelt lahendada ROOMA seadustega südamepuudulikus ühiskonnas, ja on õigus lahendada, kolme sekundiga, selleüle selline suur takistus ja mure, hirm enamustel inimestel.
Proovige ise, kirjutage ÜKSKÕIK mida oma dokumentidele, seaduses pole isegi keelatud oma allkirja muuta üle öö või omada mitut allkirja. või käekirja muuta, või käega juhtub miskit ja ei saa vana allkirja kirjutada... aga siis peetakse seda allkirja asja selliseks suureks tõsiseks ületamatuks asjaks,
Digi allkiri on ainult miskit väärt VÕI inimese oma kelle allkiri on miskit väärt ühiskonnas, et kui TEMA kirjutab siis see tähendab midagi, sest selle nime taga seisab midagi suurt ja tugevat,
meie tavainimeste jaoks allkiri on lihtsalt imiteerimine ja väike mänguke, millel ei ole mittemingisugust suurt tähtsust peaaegu mitte kellegi jaoks mitte kunagi,
kogu see allkirjade asi mind juba ammusest ajast naerma pannud.
Oleks, siis, et audio või video lindistus, käsitsi kirjutatud lugu, et kus inimene selgitab mida ja miks ta tee, kes ta ise on ja miks ta siin maailmas elab: siis sellel dokumendil oleks mingit väärtust ja selgust, saaks seda millekski kasutada, ... selliseid tänapäeva kribu allkirju aga võib kes iganes milleks iganes alla kirjutada, moraalne kohustus on ainult ja enese pettus, et meiega arvestatakse ja oleme nagu tähtsad, et nüüd me siin andsime oma hääle ja kirjutasime alla.
Mõned kirjutavad metsas reaalselt kolme tilka verd andes alla, kohanud ka neid daame kes seda teinud,
vot nodel allkirjadel, kus DNA sees, ja südamearusaam, nendel juba miskit väärtust saab olla.
Vimase lause kinnituseks kuulake seda 20min: http://arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/TarkuseTee_TuuleLee_v.1.2.exe (kui Sul windowsi arvutit ei ole ja ainult Android maailmas elad, siis muidugi jääd sellest ilma..)
Oeh, ehk sai see teema piisavalt lahatud.
Jäägem ikka Jumalaga Tarkusega ja Tarkus on Pühakirja sõnul Ka, Naisoost
kuid miskit kribu mida pastakaga saab kergelt lahendada ROOMA seadustega südamepuudulikus ühiskonnas, ja on õigus lahendada, kolme sekundiga, selleüle selline suur takistus ja mure, hirm enamustel inimestel.
Proovige ise, kirjutage ÜKSKÕIK mida oma dokumentidele, seaduses pole isegi keelatud oma allkirja muuta üle öö või omada mitut allkirja. või käekirja muuta, või käega juhtub miskit ja ei saa vana allkirja kirjutada... aga siis peetakse seda allkirja asja selliseks suureks tõsiseks ületamatuks asjaks,
Digi allkiri on ainult miskit väärt VÕI inimese oma kelle allkiri on miskit väärt ühiskonnas, et kui TEMA kirjutab siis see tähendab midagi, sest selle nime taga seisab midagi suurt ja tugevat,
meie tavainimeste jaoks allkiri on lihtsalt imiteerimine ja väike mänguke, millel ei ole mittemingisugust suurt tähtsust peaaegu mitte kellegi jaoks mitte kunagi,
kogu see allkirjade asi mind juba ammusest ajast naerma pannud.
Oleks, siis, et audio või video lindistus, käsitsi kirjutatud lugu, et kus inimene selgitab mida ja miks ta tee, kes ta ise on ja miks ta siin maailmas elab: siis sellel dokumendil oleks mingit väärtust ja selgust, saaks seda millekski kasutada, ... selliseid tänapäeva kribu allkirju aga võib kes iganes milleks iganes alla kirjutada, moraalne kohustus on ainult ja enese pettus, et meiega arvestatakse ja oleme nagu tähtsad, et nüüd me siin andsime oma hääle ja kirjutasime alla.
Mõned kirjutavad metsas reaalselt kolme tilka verd andes alla, kohanud ka neid daame kes seda teinud,
vot nodel allkirjadel, kus DNA sees, ja südamearusaam, nendel juba miskit väärtust saab olla.
Vimase lause kinnituseks kuulake seda 20min: http://arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/TarkuseTee_TuuleLee_v.1.2.exe (kui Sul windowsi arvutit ei ole ja ainult Android maailmas elad, siis muidugi jääd sellest ilma..)
Oeh, ehk sai see teema piisavalt lahatud.
Jäägem ikka Jumalaga Tarkusega ja Tarkus on Pühakirja sõnul Ka, Naisoost
19 April 2018 23:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(kuna sarvikud usulises mõttes inimestel kõrvadevahel siis ei ole vaja ega mõistlik nendega alati rooma seaduste järgi kembelda, muidu lukustavad vabad inimesed ennast seadustesse vabatahtlikult, ning siin ei ole enam süüks see kes "trollib" vaid see kes ei mõistnud, et mittevabat inimest ei saa lõpuni süüdistada tema tegemata jätmiste või valede tegude tõttu, samal kui me ise lihtsakoelistesse takistustesse takerdume nagu oleksime mittevabad, nagu oleksime mitteväärikad või nagu oleksime albi hingega.
Laseme endaga mängelda ja mossitame juba saamatuses mängui alguses... ise aga ei kasuta loovust, aju ja lihtsat tarkust koos julgusega mis Jumalapoolt antud.
Kui tuleb takistus väljakutse nr. 2 teele, siis tuleb lahendus nr. 3 kohe mängeldes, põnevusega väljamõelda tänulikusega, et elu pakkus võimalust otsetee asemel avastada ja leida muid võimalusi ja lahendusi, mis silmavaadet, tegevushaaret ja arusaame meil laiendab, julgust arendab ja enesekindlust suurendab, sest me ikka omal maal, täieõiguslikud,... või nu pigem teie olete, seega ongi irooniline, et inimestel kellel kõik õigused olemas, nii kergesti tõestatavad ilmselged tõestused, koos tarkuste ja keele oskustega, et nii suurte trumpidega inimesed nii kergetesse muredesse langevad. )
Loomulikult osati on rusuv, et nii tark riik keda austada proovime ja soovime, meid sellist karnevali tegema panevad, kuid eks neil ka omad põhjused ja kui me ise pole neile soovitusi andnud, miksja kuidas asju paremaks muuta siis isegi ei saa hakata süüdistamisega pihta, veel.
Laseme endaga mängelda ja mossitame juba saamatuses mängui alguses... ise aga ei kasuta loovust, aju ja lihtsat tarkust koos julgusega mis Jumalapoolt antud.
Kui tuleb takistus väljakutse nr. 2 teele, siis tuleb lahendus nr. 3 kohe mängeldes, põnevusega väljamõelda tänulikusega, et elu pakkus võimalust otsetee asemel avastada ja leida muid võimalusi ja lahendusi, mis silmavaadet, tegevushaaret ja arusaame meil laiendab, julgust arendab ja enesekindlust suurendab, sest me ikka omal maal, täieõiguslikud,... või nu pigem teie olete, seega ongi irooniline, et inimestel kellel kõik õigused olemas, nii kergesti tõestatavad ilmselged tõestused, koos tarkuste ja keele oskustega, et nii suurte trumpidega inimesed nii kergetesse muredesse langevad. )
Loomulikult osati on rusuv, et nii tark riik keda austada proovime ja soovime, meid sellist karnevali tegema panevad, kuid eks neil ka omad põhjused ja kui me ise pole neile soovitusi andnud, miksja kuidas asju paremaks muuta siis isegi ei saa hakata süüdistamisega pihta, veel.
19 April 2018 23:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
PUNANE raamat siin ka, asjakohane mainida,
eks enamus maailma seadused on rooma-greeka-pederastia-kolmandaRooma-kommunistide-liberaalide punaste seadustega arvestatavalt tehtud, ainukeseks vastukaaluks on kristlik ja loodus rahva, mõne üksiku kultuuri ja revolutsionääri mõistuse-südame poolsed seadused... kuid suurem osa mis teisi seadusi kontrollivad, on ikka suht punaste järgi arvestatud ja selle mõttega kuidas orjalaagrit kontrolliall hoida, nii, et nad ennast ise vangis hoiaks
eks enamus maailma seadused on rooma-greeka-pederastia-kolmandaRooma-kommunistide-liberaalide punaste seadustega arvestatavalt tehtud, ainukeseks vastukaaluks on kristlik ja loodus rahva, mõne üksiku kultuuri ja revolutsionääri mõistuse-südame poolsed seadused... kuid suurem osa mis teisi seadusi kontrollivad, on ikka suht punaste järgi arvestatud ja selle mõttega kuidas orjalaagrit kontrolliall hoida, nii, et nad ennast ise vangis hoiaks
19 April 2018 23:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ühesõnaga kirjuta sellele ise alla ja asi vask
ta ei pea sellest teadma, ja keegi ei saa sellest teada ja iial ta ei hakka helistama valitsusse ja tal pole õigus uurida, kas Sa hakkasid saama toetust ning kuidas see läbiläks.
On veel lahendusi, nagu otse neile helistamine ja olukorra selgitamine kuid kui selleks oskused või enesekindlust pole, et seda kindlalt läbi suruda, selgitades neile node arulagedust, siis piisab kui ise allakirjutada
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Pettus ei ole siis kui totruste tegemised vahele jätta olukorra praktiliseks kiirenduseks-lihtsustuseks õigel-ausal eesmärgil ja vahest on kuritegu valesi seadusi järgida. Tuleb ikka meie oma kodumaa, talupoja mõistust kasutada, mis praktiline on
( See on see väheste seente viga )
ta ei pea sellest teadma, ja keegi ei saa sellest teada ja iial ta ei hakka helistama valitsusse ja tal pole õigus uurida, kas Sa hakkasid saama toetust ning kuidas see läbiläks.
On veel lahendusi, nagu otse neile helistamine ja olukorra selgitamine kuid kui selleks oskused või enesekindlust pole, et seda kindlalt läbi suruda, selgitades neile node arulagedust, siis piisab kui ise allakirjutada
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Pettus ei ole siis kui totruste tegemised vahele jätta olukorra praktiliseks kiirenduseks-lihtsustuseks õigel-ausal eesmärgil ja vahest on kuritegu valesi seadusi järgida. Tuleb ikka meie oma kodumaa, talupoja mõistust kasutada, mis praktiline on
( See on see väheste seente viga )
19 April 2018 22:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kui lapsed on alati algkoolini Kindlalt vanemate pool elanud, ühtegi vastupidist paberit ei ole, siis pole vaja siin seda karnevali ka korraldada, mõne lapse isa äkki on austraailas, või dementne, või tülis,
Mida see allkiri tõestab ja kes tõestab, et see inimese allkiri on.
Kirjuta ise alla sellele dokumendile südamerahuga ja saada ära.
Mängi samamoodi lolli kui ka peaks teoreetiline vaidlustus tulema, öeldes, et ju on mälukaotus, omaarust sai käidud tema juures ju. Ja käisid ka.
Vaidlustada ei saaks, sest pole midagi vaidlustada, on ju selge, et oled emaks enam kui 8 aastat olnud.
Kui ise ei oska allkirja imiteerida siis võta keegi kes oskab ja pole suurt vahet nendel käsiallkirjadel, ma igasuguseid jutte ja sõnasi naljaviluks kirjutanud testiks ja mitte mingit vahet pole, selline rahva lollitamine, kohtufilmides ainult asjade põevaks tegemiseks kasutatakse ekspertiise kes allkirjasi uurivad kui suured millionid on mängus.
Miks nii lihtsat asja nii keeruliseks endajaoks ajada ja sellele üleliia aega kulutad,a ei ole vaja saksa kuuleusega bürokraatlikutele lollustele vaja alluda, siis jäämgi ringiratast käima
Mida see allkiri tõestab ja kes tõestab, et see inimese allkiri on.
Kirjuta ise alla sellele dokumendile südamerahuga ja saada ära.
Mängi samamoodi lolli kui ka peaks teoreetiline vaidlustus tulema, öeldes, et ju on mälukaotus, omaarust sai käidud tema juures ju. Ja käisid ka.
Vaidlustada ei saaks, sest pole midagi vaidlustada, on ju selge, et oled emaks enam kui 8 aastat olnud.
Kui ise ei oska allkirja imiteerida siis võta keegi kes oskab ja pole suurt vahet nendel käsiallkirjadel, ma igasuguseid jutte ja sõnasi naljaviluks kirjutanud testiks ja mitte mingit vahet pole, selline rahva lollitamine, kohtufilmides ainult asjade põevaks tegemiseks kasutatakse ekspertiise kes allkirjasi uurivad kui suured millionid on mängus.
Miks nii lihtsat asja nii keeruliseks endajaoks ajada ja sellele üleliia aega kulutad,a ei ole vaja saksa kuuleusega bürokraatlikutele lollustele vaja alluda, siis jäämgi ringiratast käima
19 April 2018 22:44
Margus Meigo commented on Merle Kaljundi's post.
Nu mida siin üldse arvutada on, teada ju, et kuni 10 aastaseni on lapsed sisse kirjutatud Sinu juurde.
Nad ei ole kunagi alla 10 aastasena kellegi teise poole sisse kirjutatud, millest siin üldse arutada ja käia allkirjasi kogumas.
Ilmselge, et kõik inimesed meelega või kogematta või olude sunnil ei anna mis siis jääb selletõttu ettenähtud toetus saamata?
See on tore, et nad proovivad, Eestlasi kokku viia omavahel, vestlusesse, et allkirjasi saada mida erijuhtudel võib vaja minna (nu, et lahus vanemate allkirja saamiseks neil omavahel uuesti suhtlus tekib, ja see ühiskonnale tervikuna kasulik), kuid ilmselge ju, arvutis olemas süsteemil, kelle juures mis aastal lapsed on sissekirjutatud.
Alles siis kui on vastupidised tõendid ja keegi seda vaidlustab, siis tasub neid sissekirjutusi kahtluse alla panna. On ikka loogika siin ühiskonnas.
Nad ei ole kunagi alla 10 aastasena kellegi teise poole sisse kirjutatud, millest siin üldse arutada ja käia allkirjasi kogumas.
Ilmselge, et kõik inimesed meelega või kogematta või olude sunnil ei anna mis siis jääb selletõttu ettenähtud toetus saamata?
See on tore, et nad proovivad, Eestlasi kokku viia omavahel, vestlusesse, et allkirjasi saada mida erijuhtudel võib vaja minna (nu, et lahus vanemate allkirja saamiseks neil omavahel uuesti suhtlus tekib, ja see ühiskonnale tervikuna kasulik), kuid ilmselge ju, arvutis olemas süsteemil, kelle juures mis aastal lapsed on sissekirjutatud.
Alles siis kui on vastupidised tõendid ja keegi seda vaidlustab, siis tasub neid sissekirjutusi kahtluse alla panna. On ikka loogika siin ühiskonnas.
19 April 2018 22:39
Margus Meigo commented on Serozha Bokovoy's photo.
One of the best quotes what i have heard
19 April 2018 21:23
Margus Meigo commented on Serozha Bokovoy's photo.
Tell always truth then there is less doubt
19 April 2018 21:23
Margus Meigo commented on Enno Andresen's post.
Nu jah, valgeid sääl jiuba küll, ikka vaheldust vaja ju! :D
(iroonia)
(iroonia)
19 April 2018 21:20
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Kaldamäe's comment.
Group: Soldiers Of Odin Estonia
Enno Andresen Heebria pühakirja juutide (mitte punajuudid, kes Juudikultuuri oma seaduste kohaselt väärvivad kohest mahalöömist) on oma moraalide ja kasvatuse eeskirjadelt suht lähedased vanaeestlastega, selles osas kuidas pättidega tegeleda, kuidas lapsi kasvatada ja kuidas peaks pere ja tööd austama.19 April 2018 21:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jana Saks-Eelma ma ei mõelnud toiduseeni.
Kui ei söö psühhedeelseid seeni või kui ei söö kärbseseeni, siis see pole tark ega ka sobilik asi mida öelda ilma kurva ja mõjuva põhjuseta
https://youtu.be/XQNpNDHJKnY?t=497
See oleks nagu avalikult vene pioneer teadvustaks "ma kohaliku kultuuri kirjandust ei loe"
Kui ei söö psühhedeelseid seeni või kui ei söö kärbseseeni, siis see pole tark ega ka sobilik asi mida öelda ilma kurva ja mõjuva põhjuseta
https://youtu.be/XQNpNDHJKnY?t=497
See oleks nagu avalikult vene pioneer teadvustaks "ma kohaliku kultuuri kirjandust ei loe"
https://youtu.be/XQNpNDHJKnY?t=497
19 April 2018 21:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jana Saks-Eelma anna mulle asjalik ratase video ja ma annan sulle kaardi kus seeni saad korjata
19 April 2018 21:05
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
paberit lõikab küll suht vaba survega, kuid yeah, kui käsivesi kivi leian siis lasen üle
19 April 2018 17:18
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov ju Sul õigus
19 April 2018 17:15
Margus Meigo commented on Margus Luik's photo.
Tõsine hai ikka
19 April 2018 15:49
Margus Meigo replied to Margus Luik's comment.
Margus Luik Puhaku ta rahus!
19 April 2018 15:48
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov kas käi nuga mitte liialt ei retsi..
tavalist raudnugasi küll jah aa see kvaliteet rootsi teras, kui siis saab veel sileti teravuse nüanssi anda sellele vesi luisuga
ja kus sa läbi eetri näed ku iterav to on :p
tavalist raudnugasi küll jah aa see kvaliteet rootsi teras, kui siis saab veel sileti teravuse nüanssi anda sellele vesi luisuga
ja kus sa läbi eetri näed ku iterav to on :p
19 April 2018 15:47
Margus Meigo replied to Margus Luik's comment.
Nu peab ette valmistama, mine tea kes siin käivad muudkui uksetaga :D
19 April 2018 15:44
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
puit on lihtsalt kuivkõva
19 April 2018 15:42
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
see kõrge süsiniku sisaldusega, seda eriti muuta pole mõtet vist
19 April 2018 15:37
Margus Meigo commented on Joy Johnson's post.
They lie about the name, the idealogy was OPPOSITE,
it was to STOP massdestruction, it is clear to see that idelogy was NON LETHAL weapons
how hard to understand ?
it was to STOP massdestruction, it is clear to see that idelogy was NON LETHAL weapons
how hard to understand ?
19 April 2018 15:00
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Tundub nii!
19 April 2018 14:53
Margus Meigo replied to Janar Einula's comment.
oli jep!
19 April 2018 14:53
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Tamm's comment.
Vot, mulle ikka skumbria tundus parem nüüd järgiproovides.
19 April 2018 14:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ühesõnaga skumbria õlis oli parem (minule)
19 April 2018 14:52
Margus Meigo replied to Inglike Olen's comment.
kindlasti läks :D
19 April 2018 14:10
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Kübar's post.
Kohe tehti karistuseks uus statistika, et ei ole valimiskümniseski ja nagu oleks Isamaliit kohe kaotamisel .
19 April 2018 14:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oleks paari ereinevat vaja vast.. "uuseestlaste"
ja "vanameelsete"
ja "vanameelsete"
19 April 2018 14:02
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Kübar's post.
Kas Saaksid Eesti lehma ideed välja mõelda mõned,
saadan talle, et lisaks sinna albumisse.
arvesse võiks võtta armeenia raadio "ainukesed kes saksa täpsusega kommunistlike lollusi täidavad" + EU byrokraatia ja USA võõrvõimule pugemise samal ajal kui ennast iseseisvaks, ürgseks, originaalseks ja vaat, et pool šamaanilikuks peame
Nu muidugi, kui Päris ise oleksime, siis päris šamaanilikud oleksime... (mitte need kes kilakolaga trumm käes tühja ringi kargavad.. eks hingedes ja vaimudega saab rännata ka ilma kolata... ja eelkõige vaja praeguse maailma kultuurilisi teadmisi, et nendest rännakutest tolku selleilma inimestele oleks... milleks muidugi me haritud rahvana sobiksime, ... uusliberaalide juured aga nii sügavad vast pole, et neil lihtne vaimutarkusi me ühiskonda tagasi tuua suudaks )
...et kui oleksime, siis näeksime kergemini need trikid läbi millega meid siin solgutatakse ja kes on meimeelne ja kes kahekeelne
saadan talle, et lisaks sinna albumisse.
arvesse võiks võtta armeenia raadio "ainukesed kes saksa täpsusega kommunistlike lollusi täidavad" + EU byrokraatia ja USA võõrvõimule pugemise samal ajal kui ennast iseseisvaks, ürgseks, originaalseks ja vaat, et pool šamaanilikuks peame
Nu muidugi, kui Päris ise oleksime, siis päris šamaanilikud oleksime... (mitte need kes kilakolaga trumm käes tühja ringi kargavad.. eks hingedes ja vaimudega saab rännata ka ilma kolata... ja eelkõige vaja praeguse maailma kultuurilisi teadmisi, et nendest rännakutest tolku selleilma inimestele oleks... milleks muidugi me haritud rahvana sobiksime, ... uusliberaalide juured aga nii sügavad vast pole, et neil lihtne vaimutarkusi me ühiskonda tagasi tuua suudaks )
...et kui oleksime, siis näeksime kergemini need trikid läbi millega meid siin solgutatakse ja kes on meimeelne ja kes kahekeelne
19 April 2018 14:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lõpukskisub ikka väga ära :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-BYc9V0nSo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-BYc9V0nSo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-BYc9V0nSo
19 April 2018 13:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Rabis got even more hardcore raves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkNbpNHtLFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkNbpNHtLFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkNbpNHtLFg
19 April 2018 13:34
Margus Meigo replied to Ka Ka's comment.
What is das?
19 April 2018 13:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
rohelised juba ... neid saksamaal juba 70,80 ndatel võeti kommunistide misiooniks inflatreerida..
meie rohelistel ka käed seljataga.. kui nad päriselt oleks.. siis oelks nad PALJU radikaalsemad ja julgemad..
selleasemel nad eesotsas hoiavad miskeid noori kes disainer juustega "kalamaja hipsterite" esimese maailma muresi filsofeerivad kergelt, jääb mulje, ja siis veel täis feil oli asuda samasoo ihardajate kaitsesse. likvideerides veel viimased tõsimeelsed eestlased node tagant kes maa asja südamega ajada soovib, sest kes sellistega siduda end soovib, naabrid hakkavad norima ja endal ka seest pahaks läheb
õrnalt peaaegu julgeti kanepi teemat ülesse võtta.. ja tänu selle ka, et Kaasik sääl, ta naine Eesti suurimad psühedeelikumi uuringuid pea ainuüksinda on julgenud teha..
kudi ega neile suurt sõnaõigust ei anta,
kuigi nende tarkusi mida kasutada saadakse kooritakse... kuid kohe kui aeg tuleb siis vasak jõud võtavad nad nagu kinda ja hakavad läbi nende tööle..
eks jah... kui me poliitikaga ei tegele tegeleb poliitika meiega, elementaarne
iseasi kas me sama totralt , lips kaelas samasse ämbrisse astuma peaks..
piisab kui juba mõelda kodumaiselt, see juba ise aastatega tiksutab oluised asjad paika ja hoiab ringneedusest vabamana.. võib minna ka kümneid aastiad kuni saame pärale, oluline on mitte isegi õrnalt värisema hakata, et nagu oleks mingi kaotus kuskilt näha, ka siis kui meid ainult 3 alles veel19 April 2018 13:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
Ega mendid ka täitsa normaalsed, ilma nendeta eip saa,
peaaasi, et sellised mendid ple nagu beebilõusta laulus, kes "kodus ka kumminuia kannavad" :D ehk siis kellele pedereerimine-ajutiste seaduste pime teenimine, olulisem kui inimlikud väärtused (ehk mis tegelikult õiglane on)
Kuid nagu ma ise ka siin ammusest ajast ikka mõelnud,et vaja meil endil nii Kodukaitse võrgud kui ka välis ja siseluure võrgud luua, ku iRahvana, inimestena vabana alles jääda soovime nii, et meil maailmas ka sõnaõigust oleks.
Kui kodumaa kaotada (isamaaliidu lõpliku likvideerimisele juba ettevalmistusi tehakse, et siis keskerakonna lõukoerte EKRE dega lõpliukult üle võtta ja mugavalt Reformi oppositsioonis hoida sotsidega... kuna nii sotsid ja reformid, mõlema sisemus on loodud erinevate punaste joonte peal, liberaalid, sotsalistid... üks sama kommunisti suurmõtlejate eri jooni grupiviisiliste rahva haldamiseks... iga erakond kus sees on nimes liberaal, demokraatlik jne juba on oma olemuse paljastanud, et nad suurvõimude hüpikud ... muidugi MEIE sotsid paremad kui muud EU & USA sotsid sest meil AINUKESENA ei oel internatsionaali ametlikuks erakonna hümniks võetud, kuna see oleks liiast olnud ... meie maa ka üks väheseid planeedil kus pole julgetud ametlikult kommunistliku nime all olevaid erakondasi luua või mõndasi kes otseselt neist tulnud on, meil aeti sassi .. klopsiti kokku.. ja siis hakati nid trikitama uuesti punaimpeeriumi trikkide poolt, rooma imperiumi trikkide poolt.. teatavasti need need impeeriumid kelle Suurimate agendade hulka käib psühedeelikumide rahvakasutusest ja ajaloost likvideerimine , sest need ained saavad tõe esile tuua ja rahva mõtlema panna õiges kasutuses... seega nad nii teadusasutusi kui meedia asutusi sügavalt siiani kontrollinud... see illuminaadi jura on lihtsalt välja mõeldud, et nende ENDI tegevusi peita ja läbi selle iluminaadi paranoia rünnata üksikuid kuninglikke kes teele jääda võivad.. liites neid kokku nende enda loodud pättidega..
või mis moodi te seda pilti muidu näete mis siin niite tõmbab?
viimati vaatsin, need internatsionaalid., üle euroopa, otseselt uni ÜRO ni juhtivate organisatsioonides)19 April 2018 13:24
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Kairi-Kristin Sakson Kusjuures täpselt nii ongi19 April 2018 11:34
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"Uus teaduslik fakt, statistiline vaieldamatus:
inimeste ja nartsissi DNA kattub 35% "
misselega peale hakkata, selles pole veel kindel aga näe, fakt ikkagi.
Eks mida see fakt tähendab, olenevalt ideoloogiast saab igast asju külge kleepida19 April 2018 11:33
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Nii ta on19 April 2018 11:31
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"Vabast Tahtest" - mida rakendatakse isikuliselt ja ühiskondlikult19 April 2018 10:15
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Saatanast19 April 2018 10:14
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Kristo Poljakov saab teha uuringu, et ftanüüli süstimine on rukkileiva söömisest ka alguse saanud,.
mitte küll nii selgemeelse, kuid põhimõtte, endale saab seda pilti näidata sedasi,
Seda muidugi avalikus arguendis eriti kasutada ei taus seda tarkust :p19 April 2018 10:14
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point on et kui neist skeemidest, neid tajuma hakkame, siis kanepi jms tõsidusest ka arusaama hakkame,
ja siis ikkagi saame naiivsete ja lihtsade argumentidega minna ... kuid siis saame ruuumi ka oma argumentidesse jätta.. ja ku inad sammu edsi astuvad, siis meil veel ruumi edasi liikuda..
enda sisemuseski19 April 2018 10:11
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siin räägime olenditest kes aegruumiga nssivad ja saavad ööpäevaga kellegi uskumused kõrvadevahel uuesti tagasi hardresettida kui tarvis
saavad unenägudesse minna, sääl hirmutada ja tekitada kloon inimesi või agente, kes meelega teatud vihjeid ja hirme uuesti inimesse sisestab koostöös mitme teise tegelasega, andes igaüks väikse jupi ja siis inimene oma peas kokku paneb selle , arvates, et see tiema enda arusaam oli... ja siis see nei lkõige mõjusam.. sest ühe iniemse tarkuse saab inimese aju fokuseerida ja selle yhekorraga ymber lükata... aga nagu KGB le kohane.. jupp siin ja jupp sääl..
...see ka moodus kuidas jah, palju muud ka kontrollitakse
Kuigi eks ma oma sõnu peaks mtlema, kuidas neid selgemini väljendada, keelekunst pole minu eriala momendil veel19 April 2018 10:10
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Ära nõua "teaduslikku tõestust"
Siis saad ka seda, teadust saab mitme nurga alt kasutada, nagu enne ütlesin.
Nõukogude liit, kogu see n liit põhines teaduslikul prgressil ja arusaamal ja tõestusel, maailma suurim hulk teadlasi 24 7 pidevalt töötasid
isegi keppi planeeriti teaduse põhjal
ja rakendati nu nii kuidas ikka, nii kuidas välja tuli.
Meil tuleb siin tõsiselt peale teha ja trippida koos ja reaaselt, nendel inimestel lasta rohkem rääkida teatud aspekides kes vaimsemate tunnetustega,
ja siis omakorda tarkust rakedada neilt, kes süsteemi ja fakti teadustes kõva näsi.. ja to peab osata alluda Jumaliule arusaamadele ja siis need asjad õiges järjekorras, õigesse järjekorda, faktid ja arusaamad uued paberile panema, koos nende tarkadega ke steiste poolte arusaame arusaavad NENDE vaatevinklist... et siis meie argumendid, NENDE keeles oleks .. kuid lopuni nii ka ei saa , KUI uusi arusaame tahad viia oppositsiooni.
Sest mitte ainult ei taha tõestada sa, et nad eksivad (ehk nad siis peaksid peas korras aksepteerima, et see mis nad VASTUPUIDI oma arvamusele arvasid, mis nad arvasid vastase väärarusaam olema., peaksid nad selle oma peas õigeks tunnistama.. mis juba võimatuse ligidal... vaid omakorda veel HOOPIS uue tarksue dimensiooni sisaldama node pähe ja arusaama, mis maailma tunnetust hetkeks muudaks ja siis uuesti samasse arusaama jätaks... sest kui liialt muudad siis neid jägitakse ja kui nad oma orjarakkeid muudavad liialt palju korraga siis läbi nende ja nende kaitseks suuremad mustad jõud kohe tulevad, uuesti asju korda sättima... sest nagu rääksin, siin VÄGA suured võimsad jõud node asjade taga, meie riigi kord sellekõrval on köömes, ... nu see tavaline pealiskaudne riigivõim mis demokraatilikult arvatakse olema kohtu põhine )19 April 2018 10:07
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Oskar Le ALATI enne mingi fakti avalikustamist ja seda õigustuseks kasutades, TULEB arevswtada mis moodi SEDA fakti tõlgendavad vanad ja teised, vastasmeelsused.
Wikipedia sõna juba ainuüksi paneb naerma enamusi vanakooli tõsisemaid,
"KAsutatakse palju" saab olla nii hea kui halb tõestus
"kasutajad leiavad, et see neile kasulik" saab samamoodi tõlgedada ni hea kui halvana19 April 2018 10:00
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Kuigi selle viimase kõik, arvesse võtttes, saab ikka lihtsustada teatud sõnadetasemele, ... kuid otsin alles neid sõnu veel
aegajalt osati tulevad meelde,
õiged sõnad muudavad maailma, tuleb nodegagi ettevaatlik olla19 April 2018 09:58
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Nu jah, point on et me ei tohiks ise igast faktide, lõksu sattuda,
Sest kui keegi postitaks suhkruga, rasvaga, telekavaatamise, valesti seksimise ja jooksmisega liialdamise kahjud .. siis need ka osad fataalsed ja osad mentaalselt pikaks ajaks järelmõjudega.
See muidu päris informatsiooni rikas ja palju tööd teinud inimeste link Mart Kalvet
Kuid Hallotsionigeene eip sobiks statistiliselt skaalasse panna,
see üli limteeriv oleks juba ainuüksi selle arusaamade osas, see kolmanda järgi järel info vale kasutustest, inimkonna kasutustest, kuid see ei näita taimede olemuse kohta suurt mitte midagi .... ku isiis mingi kõrval statistika, :
"mis juhtub kui teadmatud inimesed teadmatult teadmata aineid võtavad teadmata põhjustel ja teadmata keskondades "
node ainetega tuleb ikka arvestada hinge, vaime, maailma loomingut, nimmisioone, erisorte inimesi, eriliike inimesi, eri vaimu agendasi ja eri vaimu mõjutusi eri planeedi piirkondades jms19 April 2018 09:57
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Füüsilise kahju skaalas nuga on väga kõrgel kohal potensiaalse füüsilise kahju tekitamises,
aga kasu on ka ja olulisus, väga kõrgel kohal.
Autodega samamoodi ja autodel veel mitu muud dimensiooni lisandub.
Faktidega aetakse päid sassi kui aluspind, alsuarusaamad pole selged Vaimses mõttes,
ja just sellele selgusele, kardetakse, et jõutakse, kui tarkusetaimedele inimesi ligi lastakse ja nad neid kunagi kogematta, juhuslikult õigest kasutama juhtuvad , disiplineeritult ja targalt19 April 2018 09:42
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See füüsiline kahju on teisejärguline,
Mentaalset, vaimset ja füüsilist kasu tuleb pigem järgida19 April 2018 09:41
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Kristo Poljakov ei nu gängid just siis ka tekitvad, kui kõik võimalused selleks pakkuda.. ega gängid on olnud juba tuhandeid aastaid tagasi, ega sarviku olemus siis liberaalsusega ei kao kuskile
Aususe ja tarkusega saavad tänavad puhtamaks, tarkus on ka rakendada asjakohast jõudu ja arusaada kellel on millises olukorras erinevad õigused, algalus Õiglusele vaja muidugi paika panna, kuid see lõhuti süsteemidepoolt mida meil siin tuhadeid aastaid arenenud oli...19 April 2018 09:40
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Vaimsete arusaamade piiramisega tegu, pigem, kui mingit agendat leida, kuid ega seegi, nemad seda ise teadlikult ei tee,
et loodus tarkust peita kommunistlikute jäerelorgnisatsioonidega, Rooma impeeriumi järel-orgnisatsioonidega..19 April 2018 09:25
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Kristo Poljakov räägi vääl, et ma ika täpsemalt ei saanud aru kuidas see teemas?
Ega vägivalla rakendamine nende eesmärk pole
selleks ikka on tänava gängid19 April 2018 09:23
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eks nad omas vallas mitmes osas targad ka, kuid lihtsalt piisab kui par tarkuse lüli puudu on, et hoopis teine vastus ja arusaam on milele pärale jõutakse19 April 2018 09:22
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Nu selleks ma tema kontaktid just paningi, ta raadios rääkis, ega ta siis direktorina mitte faktidest rääkida saa, ikka faktidest.
Postita meile ka neid fakte siia ja seda ka, et mis kasu sellistest faktidest on uuri noilt,
ta veel serveeris sedasi asja raadios, et Kanep põhiteema millega KAAASNEB suits ja alkohol, mitte, et suitsu ja alkoholiga kaasneksid muud asjad.
Nu eks eesmärk on hoida ühiskonnas kanepi vastast meeleolu ja samas leiutada mingit "tarka" juttu mis jätaks mulje, nagu tegeletakse millegagi ja et millegist saadakse aru19 April 2018 09:21
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Mida täpsemalt mõtled?19 April 2018 09:18
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nagu puutin ütles UN security sellele tibile, et "kui me tahaksime saaksime nii teha, et su 4 aastane laps oli süüdi pommitamises, sellised spetsialistid on olemas nüüd"19 April 2018 09:11
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kõik oleneb mida , mis otsast, kuidas ja miks uurida.
Teadused on ideoloogiaga põimununa väga ühe dimensionaalsed tihti19 April 2018 09:10
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fakt19 April 2018 09:10
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praegu uus narko periood ka meedias, läheb peale.
Vb Tervise Arengu Intituut juba temaga ühendust võtnud, et "Kulla Ratas.. ega te fetanüüli süstima ei hakka.. meie uuringud näitavad, et 90% kes ... "
Vb Tervise Arengu Intituut juba temaga ühendust võtnud, et "Kulla Ratas.. ega te fetanüüli süstima ei hakka.. meie uuringud näitavad, et 90% kes ... "
19 April 2018 09:00
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Ei nu ma ise oma kõrvadega kuulnud, et on olemas selliseid inimesi, kes kanepit soovivad, et "laksu" saada või "sassi kammida"
Sellistel soovitaks pigem keerutada ringiratast viis minutit sassisaamiseks või metsas kõvasti oksa painutada sõbral ning selleka vast vahtimist saada, peaks piisavalt laks olema.
Kui metsa pole käepärast siis saab abi ka korteriuksest ja sõbrast kes aitab, laksu saada.
Ahjaa, lisaks peaks mainima, et need kellest räägin on alati purjus olnud, kaineid laksutajaid pole veel kohanud.19 April 2018 08:56
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(:D)19 April 2018 08:46
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Oskar Ment oled v?
lesment19 April 2018 08:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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See millest see alguse saab ja miks kanep STATISTILISELT sedasi mõõdetavalt "ete jääb" on nii lai teema,
kui vaid oleks keele oskust, siis saaks seda arengut veidral annikal aidata.
Algab ikka sellest, et vanemad onpuudulikud, ja keskkond on selline kes ei anna õigeid aineid kätte ning siis kriminaalid äritõttu ja tarkuse puudus mis tulenes eelnevast mainitust, sh. riigi vale propakanda ainete osas, on see ja seente krooniline puudus mis viib eriti kahtlasi oda otsa.
Ja las süstivad need kes tahavad,
Ma pole veel näinud, et keegi tahaks tarkust juurde saada ning siis siis kanepist jääb väheks... kui kanepist väheks jääb siiis normaalse tarkusega laps ikke seente suunas liigub
Kuid yeah.. need asjad nii erinevad... oskaks vaid seda sõnadesse panna, ... nii loll juttt oli raadiost, et ajas hommikul ülesse, praegu pool unisena siia märke panen, et oleks aega tegeleda sellega19 April 2018 08:41
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Ratas pole kunagi nii popularne olnud, 140 000 vaatamist juba, 5 tundi tagasi oli 92 000
(nüüdseks üle poole millioni kahe video peale kokku)
(nüüdseks üle poole millioni kahe video peale kokku)
19 April 2018 00:08
Margus Meigo replied to Regita Hanzing's comment.
Kui kohvi inimesi sedasi mänglema ja omaette naljatama paneks, lakke vahtima jms siis hakkaks ka kohvi tihedamini jooma :D
18 April 2018 23:58
Margus Meigo replied to Anny Olen's comment.
jup, thatswhy God created drugs
18 April 2018 23:57
Margus Meigo commented on Janar Olen's video.
Rattal väike viies ratas keeleall.
ei vihja millegile aga
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214780713968176
ei vihja millegile aga
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214780713968176
18 April 2018 23:57
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NU ega ma ometi Toimetaja nime ei hakka andma.. nii lihtsaks ikka mis teha..18 April 2018 22:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
We not so different after all
18 April 2018 22:33
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Rattal väike ratas keeleall :p
18 April 2018 22:28
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Eesti Kass : )
18 April 2018 20:50
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Valged ise ka ei salli valgeid,
Kommunistide suur hävitustöö meie algete säilimise osas peaks piisav näide olema18 April 2018 20:42
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väga väheseid on kes Päris valgeid teavad , enamus maailm, ka intelligentseid nagu jaapanlased, põlastavad enamust meie olemust, kuigi armastavad erinevaid osasi meie kultuurist18 April 2018 20:40
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Tõeseeriumid on olemas, miks need keelatud ?
Valededektorid on piisavad sõjaväe intelligentsi ja luure tippude tarvis, isegi saiontoloogia tarvis... aga meie kohtusüsteemis neid ei kasutata.. miks nii ?18 April 2018 20:39
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Ja kui ikka päris lootusetu on ja seeni süüa ei soovi mis tal iseennast nägema paneks, kui päris pätt, (ja kui kahju soovjad on veendunud, et seda vaja) siis ikka pea maha
nu vähemasti ei sobi seda omakohust takistada, kuigi eks see keeruline teema ole, kuid meil aeg siin Eestis ka korralik omakohtu kord välja mõelda,
sest ega me kohtusüsteemipeale ei saa loota,
alati.
Sest meil selline maa, et isegi kui viimane päris pätt on, siis raha olemasolukorral tal õigus endale kaitsja palgata kes meelega ilma südametunnistuseta võib seaduslikult oma kliendi tarvis valetada. Selle eest advokaati vangi ei panda kui kuritöö kaasosalist, väga imelik.18 April 2018 20:35
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Tarkadel, nagu meil, on olemas taimed selleks,mida antakse pätile sisse, ja siis ta allmaailmas saab oma põlemised ja asjad päris pikas mastaabis läbielatud ja enamasti normaalsena tagasi tulla ...18 April 2018 20:33
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Kuid Kui saame siis aitame, Eestlased selleks ongi, kuid selleks ei tohi minna emotsiooniga kaasa ja vinti juurde keerata,
neid saab siis aidata, kui nende moodi, nende vaatvinklist alustuseks mõtled... ja selle omakorda meie maailma mõtte sisse mahutad (muidu ei saa lahendusi pakkuda, kui samale tasemele jääda ju...).
Kuid see ka huvitav, et nad meile neid videosi saadavad.
Osad nagu kohe oleks tehtud mingi projektiga. Muidugi siin maailmas isegi ei saa välistada, et need lausa tellitud videod on aegajalt. Ei tasu suur süsteeme alahinnata. Hullemaidki asju võltsitud selleks, et kultuure segaduses hoida.
Muidugi metslasteks ma ei sooviks neid nimetad,a metslased on ikka nagu paremad kui need kes sääl.18 April 2018 20:32
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Meil samamoodi lubatakse naiste peksmiseid ja vägistamisi ja see nii standard, et enamus ei hakka kohaliku komuuni käest abi küsima ja politseisse väga väike osa läheb,
on suur hulk natuure kes seda enamuse aja pole teinud ja ei tee ka.
Väga väheseid naisi tean, keda ei oleks olnud vägistatud, reaalselt vägistanud ja mitte keegi neist ei ole politseisse läinud ja enamustele sõpradelegi pole räägitud, kuna ma sellise natuuriga, et mind päriselt huvitab..siis mulle räägitud ikka.18 April 2018 20:21
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ajame siin võõramaa pätte taga, muretseme asjade pärast mille osas meil tõendeid ja arusaame ei ole... ja siis endal siin sellised tegelased käivad koos savisaarega poseerimas
See naine võis reaalse hooramisega vahele jääda piirkonnas kus see keelatud ja siis asus veel suud pruukima ja ei osanud alandlikust ülesnäidata, haukus looja kallal .. võis ka olla nii.
Võis ka olla, et mingi keegi oli ta peale kade ja lavastas süüdi, see nende vahel.. meil siin ei tuleks liigse emotsiooniga kaasa minna ja hakata teiste kultuuri mustama samalajal kui me enda omaga mis meile pähe istub hakkama ei saa ega ei julge saada.
Ilmselge, et kui aeg muutub ja me siin korda ei tee asju, siis selliste tugevad natuuurid kelle jaoks inimeste põletamine on tavaline tegu, sõidavad meist kergesti üle sest lisaks tugevusele nad õpivad ka kõik lääne tarkused mis meid endeid süüdi tundma paneb.
Muidugi siia kunagi ei jõuta, kui me korda saame,
kuig vana prohvet meil siin öelnud.. ma eip mäletanud mis see viga oli mis me tegema pidine.. kuid ütles, et kui seda teeme... siis Eesti mehed lüüakse maha ja Eesti naised saavad Türklastele.
Muud asjad mis ta ennustanud täide läinud, nii pikiinidest, lennuki, raudtee suurte muude sõdade ja asjadeni, keegi läänemaa ennustaja oli.18 April 2018 20:18
Margus Meigo replied to Evi Kollamaa's comment.
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see ongi kohtuotsus ja kohtunikku kuulsid tagataustal ju. Ega see siis kehvem pole kui need haiged rituaalid kus terve punt sadistlikult haige külmusega istub klaasitaga kuni masinad surmamürki inimestesse lükkavad või kuni elekter inimest kärsatab
Vanasti oligi sedasi, igalpool, ka Eestis.
Külakohus, Omakohus, Otsekohus, ...otsekohe.
Kuid tuleb arusaada, et kui patt ja kuritegu on reaalne siis ei ole mingitpidi õige ega normaalne pakkuda advokaate miskit kohturituaale. Hea näide on Tiigrikutsu mees, vägistanud igas vanuses lapsi, stabiilselt viimased 20 aastat ja keegi ei tee midagi, itaalias pandi korra vangi ainult 4 aastase ja veel mõne lapse hingekallale tikkumise eest.
http://joel-friedrich-steinfeldt.blogspot.com.ee/http://joel-friedrich-steinfeldt.blogspot.com.ee/
18 April 2018 20:12
Margus Meigo replied to Katre Kuldma's comment.
Midagi hullu pole veel ei ole, soendused
18 April 2018 20:02
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Burak's post.
Group: Soldiers Of Odin Estonia
Sellised haiged tolvanid tuleks lihtsalt omasuguste kohtu kätte anda koheselt, mida siin ülekuulata ja riigi arvele toidule panna18 April 2018 19:44
Margus Meigo commented on Evi Kollamaa's post.
Group: Soldiers Of Odin Estonia
Kindlasti ei tasu Valetada, et tegu oli lühikeste pükste ja särgi pärast, rahvuslastele ei sobi propakanda. Enamasti ikka midagi tõsist on põhjuseks.
Suur hulk meie oma ekstremistidest vastavas olukorras käituks ise sarnaselt, selleks ei ole palju vaja, massiliselt allutakse igasugusele võimule.
(muideks Vaatajate hulgas on küll ja veel lühikeste pükstega ja ilma särgikäistega Naisi, näiteks see kes kollast särki kannab ja lühikesi pükse. Video teise poole peal )
Loomulikult on valus ja Käskude ja kohaliku komuuni vastu eksida on ka valus ja väga valus on ka kui valed meelsused üle pea kasvavad ja pärast Sul mass vägistamisi ja mass mõrvamisi lipsud ees planeerima hakkavad.18 April 2018 19:42
Margus Meigo replied to Irmeli Grönberg's comment.
Gert nii pikk nagu hiidvägilane, see müür nii kõrge oli ei tea kuidas ta sääl peajägu sellest üle on :D
18 April 2018 16:46
Margus Meigo commented on Gert Klaaser's post.
Hea, et habet ees polnud
Raiskavad taimi. põletavad muidu tühja.. seda tulevikus vaadtakse sama targalt kui vallutatud maaaladel raamatute põletamise avalike aktsioone
Raiskavad taimi. põletavad muidu tühja.. seda tulevikus vaadtakse sama targalt kui vallutatud maaaladel raamatute põletamise avalike aktsioone
18 April 2018 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on Alvar East's photo.
NU See poola laulja on ikka eriti fantast
18 April 2018 16:41
Margus Meigo commented on Kindlustusinfo's photo.
Maasoojuspumbast rääkides, kas see muidu tõsilugu, et see kogu maa pinnase lõpuks lõplikult hävita koos pinna kliima ja eluga, Norras suured mured olevat.
Või kasutavad nad teist tehnoloogiat, teistsugune pinnas/kliima, või vandenõu jutt see?
igikelts pidi 30 aasta pärast järgi olema peale nende paigaldamist.
Või kasutavad nad teist tehnoloogiat, teistsugune pinnas/kliima, või vandenõu jutt see?
igikelts pidi 30 aasta pärast järgi olema peale nende paigaldamist.
18 April 2018 16:06
Margus Meigo commented on Nautige hetke's link.
Maasoojuspumbast rääkides, kas see muidu tõsilugu, et see kogu maa pinnase lõpuks lõplikult hävita koos pinna kliima ja eluga, Norras suured mured olevat.
Või kasutavad nad teist tehnoloogiat, teistsugune pinnas/kliima, või vandenõu jutt see?
igikelts pidi 30 aasta pärast järgi olema peale nende paigaldamist.
Või kasutavad nad teist tehnoloogiat, teistsugune pinnas/kliima, või vandenõu jutt see?
igikelts pidi 30 aasta pärast järgi olema peale nende paigaldamist.
18 April 2018 16:06
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Teramäe's post.
Group: EHITUS ABINÕU
Maasoojuspumbast rääkides, kas see muidu tõsilugu, et see kogu maa pinnase lõpuks lõplikult hävita koos pinna kliima ja eluga, Norras suured mured olevat.
Või kasutavad nad teist tehnoloogiat, teistsugune pinnas/kliima, või vandenõu jutt see?
igikelts pidi 30 aasta pärast järgi olema peale nende paigaldamist.18 April 2018 16:05
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Veedler's post.
Group: Ehitusmaterjalide ost-müük
Maasoojuspumbast rääkides, kas see muidu tõsilugu, et see kogu maa pinnase lõpuks lõplikult hävita koos pinna kliima ja eluga, Norras suured mured olevat.
Või kasutavad nad teist tehnoloogiat, teistsugune pinnas/kliima, või vandenõu jutt see?
igikelts pidi 30 aasta pärast järgi olema peale nende paigaldamist.18 April 2018 16:05
Margus Meigo commented on Gert Silling's post.
Maasoojuspumbast rääkides, kas see muidu tõsilugu, et see kogu maa pinnase lõpuks lõplikult hävita koos pinna kliima ja eluga, Norras suured mured olevat.
Või kasutavad nad teist tehnoloogiat, teistsugune pinnas/kliima, või vandenõu jutt see?
igikelts pidi 30 aasta pärast järgi olema peale nende paigaldamist.
Või kasutavad nad teist tehnoloogiat, teistsugune pinnas/kliima, või vandenõu jutt see?
igikelts pidi 30 aasta pärast järgi olema peale nende paigaldamist.
18 April 2018 16:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Few Good THings
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/is-chrome-hogging-all-your-ram-make-it-behave-with-these-2-extensions/
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/is-chrome-hogging-all-your-ram-make-it-behave-with-these-2-extensions/
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/is-chrome-hogging-all-your-ram-make-it-behave-with-these-2-extensions/
18 April 2018 15:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// link siia veel postitada, mu tavapärases /alustuseks/ directoris peaks olema sarnase kuupäevaga vast
18 April 2018 04:58
Margus Meigo commented on Veiko Lukmann's post.
Eks seda asja ma ammu ka siin-sääl maininud, et ikka Isamaa võiks olla.
Pealegi, Isamaa Liit'ki oli ainukene kes polnud ERA-KOND nimes... vaid LIIT-ev.. Ja mis saab olla olulisem kui see nimetus mis hümnist ja jätk mis alge algusest.
Pealegi, Isamaa Liit'ki oli ainukene kes polnud ERA-KOND nimes... vaid LIIT-ev.. Ja mis saab olla olulisem kui see nimetus mis hümnist ja jätk mis alge algusest.
18 April 2018 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
18 April 2018 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
Siin pilte vihjeks, ka ajakirja seest, ehk sedasi lihtsam arvata:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10214775253311663.1073741920.1135161043&type=318 April 2018 00:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Vihje #8:
Siin pilte ja lugusi ajakirja seest: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10214775253311663.1073741920.1135161043&type=318 April 2018 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Siiani veel ei osata arvata, mis ajakiri see on, kas Sina tead?
Vihjeid lingis: https://www.facebook.com/groups/180853808765540/permalink/836415439876037/
ja Lingi-Lingis
Ja kui Sul see olemas, kas Sul on kõik osad olemas, eri keeltes?
Vihjeid lingis: https://www.facebook.com/groups/180853808765540/permalink/836415439876037/
ja Lingi-Lingis
Ja kui Sul see olemas, kas Sul on kõik osad olemas, eri keeltes?
18 April 2018 00:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid maitselt koos täistera saibi, või ja sibulaga päris okey ikkagi
17 April 2018 18:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eip, sprotid ikka olid liiast, odavalt ka suts tundusid, ajab üles pigem... nu vb sellest ka, et eile oma mitme kuu normi täis sõin
17 April 2018 18:28
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanika Jane's photo.
Kas Sellega läks hästi?
17 April 2018 02:56
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Ehin's post.
Oooh, armastus on ilus!
17 April 2018 02:53
Margus Meigo replied to Kristiina Jakimenko's comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
ei ole nii Kristiina
Hmm, huvitav.. päris eksootilised ajakirjad mulle sattunud17 April 2018 02:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Vihje #7:
Inimesi kes veel ajakirjaga seotud toimetuskolleegiumis:
Jüri Estam, Tiit Vähi, Priit Kolbre...17 April 2018 02:07
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kuigi, ühe meloni ja avokaadot oleks pidanud ostma... oleks rikas, siis supleks nende sees ja poleks muret :p
17 April 2018 02:01
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Teatud palavikkude jms puhul kanapuljong täitsa ravimiasemel toimib, kohe mingid ained eraldi selles sees, momendi eip tule meelde mis ained.
Kalas samamoodi on miskid asjad, mis kuidagi aitavad, kui kõrvadevahehõredaks jääb
Kalas samamoodi on miskid asjad, mis kuidagi aitavad, kui kõrvadevahehõredaks jääb
17 April 2018 02:00
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Aivar Tamm skubria maitses päris hästi ,ma sprotte pole veel proovinud, kuid kui peaks veel tunne olema, et homme vajan veel sutsu, siis võtan need otsa, enamasti paari kolme kuutagant on juba piisav.
Kuid jah, sibulaga skumbria muidu täitsa toimis!
Mõtleisn alguses, et ehk neil mingi hästi suur vahe või kuidagi, nagu karu liha vast erinev kitse lihast ja kana lihast jms
Kuid jah, sibulaga skumbria muidu täitsa toimis!
Mõtleisn alguses, et ehk neil mingi hästi suur vahe või kuidagi, nagu karu liha vast erinev kitse lihast ja kana lihast jms
17 April 2018 01:59
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Mul üks vaimne tugevam rünnak oli ja siis kui kanepit vms pole peab muude ainetega uuesti enda sisekeemiat/meeli muutma,
taimetoitlasena kala siis on hea päästevahend.
Pooltundi peale sibulat & kala sain juba korda mured mis kestisd poolteist päeva !
taimetoitlasena kala siis on hea päästevahend.
Pooltundi peale sibulat & kala sain juba korda mured mis kestisd poolteist päeva !
17 April 2018 01:57
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
aa nu need mõlemad olid venekeelsete siltidega
17 April 2018 01:55
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Tamm's comment.
proovib siis teab võrrelda
17 April 2018 01:55
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Johanson's post.
Kas oled päris inimene, miks Sa ei vasta?
17 April 2018 01:54
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
aap et neil suuri kvaliteedi vahesi pole vms ?
16 April 2018 21:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
16 April 2018 19:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Poem in the end
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtE--gj28_c&list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtE--gj28_c&list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtE--gj28_c&list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3&index=2
16 April 2018 19:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tec:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl2GDcNL6ak&list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl2GDcNL6ak&list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl2GDcNL6ak&list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3
16 April 2018 19:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI6uA5ccoJY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI6uA5ccoJY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI6uA5ccoJY
16 April 2018 18:57
Margus Meigo replied to Hans Priks's comment.
Tiit oli ühe huvitava rahvusvahelise ajakirja kolleegiumis,
Koos välismajanduspoliitika osakonna, Paul-Erik Rummo ja mitmete teiste huvitavate inimestega ... kuid keegi pole veel arvanud mul siin viktoriinis mis ajakirjaga tegu:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Nostalgiamuuseum/permalink/1918733381479557/
Koos välismajanduspoliitika osakonna, Paul-Erik Rummo ja mitmete teiste huvitavate inimestega ... kuid keegi pole veel arvanud mul siin viktoriinis mis ajakirjaga tegu:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Nostalgiamuuseum/permalink/1918733381479557/
16 April 2018 17:44
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Tamm's comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Huvitav leid kui eip ole, See nii vana ajakiri ka, to palju uuem mis mul on.
https://dea.digar.ee/cgi-bin/dea?a=d&d=paevalehtew19360817.2.16
" Kõigile oli aastatel 1936–1940 Tallinnas ilmunud ajaviiteajakiri, mis ilmus algselt 6 korda aastas ja hiljem 1 kord kuus. "
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B5igile16 April 2018 16:42
Margus Meigo replied to Jaanus Juhanovich's comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
EIp ole,
Kõiv vast seda juba pakkus ka : )16 April 2018 16:39
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16 April 2018 15:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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UNDP: Tom Cheatham
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The United Nations Development Programme works in nearly 170 countries and territories, helping to eradicate poverty, reduce inequalities and build resilience so countries can sustain progress. As the UN’s development agency, UNDP plays a critical role in helping countries achieve the Sustainable Development Goals.
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The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees has contributed to the welfare and human development of four generations of Palestine refugees. It’s services encompass education, health care, relief and social services, camp infrastructure and improvement, microfinance and emergency assistance, including in times of armed conflict. It reports only to the UN General Assembly.
UN Women
UN Women merges and builds on the important work of four previously distinct parts of the UN system, which focus exclusively on gender equality and women’s empowerment.
UN-Habitat
The mission of the United Nations Human Settlements Programme is to promote socially and environmentally sustainable human settlements development and the achievement of adequate shelter for all.
UN Specialized Agencies
The UN specialized agencies are autonomous organizations working with the United Nations. All were brought into relationship with the UN through negotiated agreements. Some existed before the First World War. Some were associated with the League of Nations. Others were created almost simultaneously with the UN. Others were created by the UN to meet emerging needs.
World Bank
The World Bank focuses on poverty reduction and the improvement of living standards worldwide by providing low-interest loans, interest-free credit, and grants to developing countries for education, health, infrastructure, and communications, among other things. The World Bank works in over 100 countries.
World Bank Group
International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD)
International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID)
International Development Association (IDA)
International Finance Corporation (IFC)
Multilateral Investment Guarantee Agency (MIGA)
IMF
The International Monetary Fund fosters economic growth and employment by providing temporary financial assistance to countries to help ease balance of payments adjustment and technical assistance. The IMF currently has $28 billion in outstanding loans to 74 nations.
WHO
The World Health Organization is the directing and coordinating authority on international health within the United Nations system. The objective of WHO is the attainment by all peoples of the highest possible level of health. Health, as defined in the WHO Constitution, is a state of complete physical, mental and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity.
UNESCO
The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization focuses on everything from teacher training to helping improve education worldwide to protecting important historical and cultural sites around the world. UNESCO added 28 new World Heritage Sites this year to the list of irreplaceable treasures that will be protected for today's travelers and future generations.
ILO
The International Labor Organization promotes international labor rights by formulating international standards on the freedom to associate, collective bargaining, the abolition of forced labor, and equality of opportunity and treatment.
FAO
The Food and Agriculture Organization leads international efforts to fight hunger. It is both a forum for negotiating agreements between developing and developed countries and a source of technical knowledge and information to aid development.
IFAD
The International Fund for Agricultural Development, since it was created in 1977, has focused exclusively on rural poverty reduction, working with poor rural populations in developing countries to eliminate poverty, hunger and malnutrition; raise their productivity and incomes; and improve the quality of their lives.
IMO
The International Maritime Organization has created a comprehensive shipping regulatory framework, addressing safety and environmental concerns, legal matters, technical cooperation, security, and efficiency.
WMO
The World Meteorological Organization facilitates the free international exchange of meteorological data and information and the furtherance of its use in aviation, shipping, security, and agriculture, among other things.
http://www.un.org/en/sections/about-un/funds-programmes-specialized-agencies-and-others/index.html
16 April 2018 15:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The database laws seem to offer protection to anyone who invests in the collection of
material and the development of a database [1, 6]. The protection does not require that the
database contain original content or constitute an original work.
It is argued in [1] that this type of protection, as proposed in EC and USA initiatives
“would create an exclusive property rights regime of virtually unlimited duration that would
be subject to few, if any, public policy limitations. It would jeopardize basic scientific
research, eliminate competition in the markets for value-added products and services, and
convert existing barriers to entry into overwhelming legal barriers to entry. The European
and United States initiatives could thus lead to relatively high prices for the use of public
goods. Economic efficiency, however, calls for very low prices for such use and favors
minimum incentives to provide the needed investment and services.”
The nature of Digital Information systems has also contributed to the motivation to
provide legal protection of databases. This is mainly due to the ease of access and copying of
published digital information.
SCCR/7/3
page 4
Overview of Database Protection Initiatives1
It is asserted that copyright laws exclude unoriginal databases. This has motivated the
drive to fill the gap between most current intellectual property legal system and the need for
database protection. Hence, the proposals to protect “non-copyrightable databases under ad
hoc or sui generis intellectual property systems that deviate from the classical patent and
copyright models underlying the Paris and Berne Conventions” [1].
(a) The European Union Initiative
In the context of database protection [1] reports that the Commission of the European
Communities pursued two objectives: (1) harmonize the rules of the member states with
regard to copyrightable databases; and (2) fill a perceived gap in existing intellectual property
regimes with regard to electronic compilations of data.
The European Commission’s vision of a strong exclusive property right for database
protection governs the EC Directive on Databases [1,6].
The sui generis right granted to database makers enables them to obtain an exclusive
“right to prevent extraction and/or reutilization of the whole or of a substantial part, evaluated
qualitatively and/or quantitatively, of the contents of that database.” This exclusive right lasts
for an initial period of at least fifteen years. The publisher of such a database may continually
renew that right for additional fifteen-year terms if the he has made additional investments in
the database.
The EC Directive conditions sui generis protection on proving that “there has been
qualitatively and/or quantitatively a substantial investment in either the obtaining, verification
or presentation of the contents or in any substantial change resulting from the accumulation of
successive additions, deletions or alterations.” It is reported that the EC Directive provides no
guidelines for evaluating the requisite level of investment. Hence, the threshold for
qualifying for protection remains uncertain. Furthermore, “there are no limits to the number
of quantitative or qualitative changes that will qualify for such extensions, and any publisher
who continues to make a substantial investment in updating, improving, or expanding an
existing database can obtain perpetual protection” [1].
From the above it is asserted that the sui generis right depends exclusively on
investment. However, “the scope of protection that the Final EC Directive affords investors in
non-copyrightable databases now appears roughly equivalent to that afforded authors of
copyrightable compilations” [1].
Moreover, under the EC directive, “every independent generation of data, however
mundane or commonplace, will obtain protection if it costs money, and every regeneration or
reutilization of the same data in updates, additions, and extensions that cost money will
extend that protection without limit as to time.”
material and the development of a database [1, 6]. The protection does not require that the
database contain original content or constitute an original work.
It is argued in [1] that this type of protection, as proposed in EC and USA initiatives
“would create an exclusive property rights regime of virtually unlimited duration that would
be subject to few, if any, public policy limitations. It would jeopardize basic scientific
research, eliminate competition in the markets for value-added products and services, and
convert existing barriers to entry into overwhelming legal barriers to entry. The European
and United States initiatives could thus lead to relatively high prices for the use of public
goods. Economic efficiency, however, calls for very low prices for such use and favors
minimum incentives to provide the needed investment and services.”
The nature of Digital Information systems has also contributed to the motivation to
provide legal protection of databases. This is mainly due to the ease of access and copying of
published digital information.
SCCR/7/3
page 4
Overview of Database Protection Initiatives1
It is asserted that copyright laws exclude unoriginal databases. This has motivated the
drive to fill the gap between most current intellectual property legal system and the need for
database protection. Hence, the proposals to protect “non-copyrightable databases under ad
hoc or sui generis intellectual property systems that deviate from the classical patent and
copyright models underlying the Paris and Berne Conventions” [1].
(a) The European Union Initiative
In the context of database protection [1] reports that the Commission of the European
Communities pursued two objectives: (1) harmonize the rules of the member states with
regard to copyrightable databases; and (2) fill a perceived gap in existing intellectual property
regimes with regard to electronic compilations of data.
The European Commission’s vision of a strong exclusive property right for database
protection governs the EC Directive on Databases [1,6].
The sui generis right granted to database makers enables them to obtain an exclusive
“right to prevent extraction and/or reutilization of the whole or of a substantial part, evaluated
qualitatively and/or quantitatively, of the contents of that database.” This exclusive right lasts
for an initial period of at least fifteen years. The publisher of such a database may continually
renew that right for additional fifteen-year terms if the he has made additional investments in
the database.
The EC Directive conditions sui generis protection on proving that “there has been
qualitatively and/or quantitatively a substantial investment in either the obtaining, verification
or presentation of the contents or in any substantial change resulting from the accumulation of
successive additions, deletions or alterations.” It is reported that the EC Directive provides no
guidelines for evaluating the requisite level of investment. Hence, the threshold for
qualifying for protection remains uncertain. Furthermore, “there are no limits to the number
of quantitative or qualitative changes that will qualify for such extensions, and any publisher
who continues to make a substantial investment in updating, improving, or expanding an
existing database can obtain perpetual protection” [1].
From the above it is asserted that the sui generis right depends exclusively on
investment. However, “the scope of protection that the Final EC Directive affords investors in
non-copyrightable databases now appears roughly equivalent to that afforded authors of
copyrightable compilations” [1].
Moreover, under the EC directive, “every independent generation of data, however
mundane or commonplace, will obtain protection if it costs money, and every regeneration or
reutilization of the same data in updates, additions, and extensions that cost money will
extend that protection without limit as to time.”
16 April 2018 01:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Study on the Protection of Unoriginal Databases
http://www.wipo.int/meetings/en/doc_details.jsp?doc_id=2095
http://www.wipo.int/edocs/mdocs/copyright/en/sccr_7/sccr_7_3.pdf
This paper aims at dealing with the impact of the protection of unoriginal databases on
developing countries. The paper deals exclusively with databases that are not protected under
copyright. It is focused on two main aspects: the possible implications of unoriginal database
protection on development, and technical alternatives to legal protection.
The paper presents an overview of the main database protection initiatives: the
European Community (EC) model, the United States of America (USA) and international
models, and the laws found in Mexico and Scandinavian countries. It then examines the main
arguments for and against unoriginal database protection. A review of possible technical
measure for protection is presented together with examples from industries with similar
concerns. Finally, a number of conclusions are offered. The paper contains appendices that
provide a more detailed view of some important technical protection measure.
Arguments supporting database protection initiatives assert that the goals of protection
include the need “to rescue database producers from the threat of market-destructive
appropriations by free-riding competitors,” [1], to encourage investment in the collection of
certain types of data, and to maintain and equitable advantage as compared to EC based
companies (and other regions) that provide sui generis database protection and extend it to
foreign companies on a reciprocity treatment basis [3].
However, it is argued that this type of protection, would in reality “create an exclusive
property rights regime of virtually unlimited duration […],” and that it would “jeopardize
basic scientific research, eliminate competition in the markets for value-added products and
services, and convert existing barriers to entry into overwhelming legal barriers to entry.”
Hence, the paper concludes that sui generis protection of unoriginal databases in the
current proposals would have negative effects on developing countries and on the scientific
and academic communities worldwide. Moreover, it is asserted that the legitimate concerns
of database compilers can either be met within the framework of the existing IP laws and
systems and/or by using technical measures for protecting their database systems.
http://www.wipo.int/meetings/en/doc_details.jsp?doc_id=2095
http://www.wipo.int/edocs/mdocs/copyright/en/sccr_7/sccr_7_3.pdf
This paper aims at dealing with the impact of the protection of unoriginal databases on
developing countries. The paper deals exclusively with databases that are not protected under
copyright. It is focused on two main aspects: the possible implications of unoriginal database
protection on development, and technical alternatives to legal protection.
The paper presents an overview of the main database protection initiatives: the
European Community (EC) model, the United States of America (USA) and international
models, and the laws found in Mexico and Scandinavian countries. It then examines the main
arguments for and against unoriginal database protection. A review of possible technical
measure for protection is presented together with examples from industries with similar
concerns. Finally, a number of conclusions are offered. The paper contains appendices that
provide a more detailed view of some important technical protection measure.
Arguments supporting database protection initiatives assert that the goals of protection
include the need “to rescue database producers from the threat of market-destructive
appropriations by free-riding competitors,” [1], to encourage investment in the collection of
certain types of data, and to maintain and equitable advantage as compared to EC based
companies (and other regions) that provide sui generis database protection and extend it to
foreign companies on a reciprocity treatment basis [3].
However, it is argued that this type of protection, would in reality “create an exclusive
property rights regime of virtually unlimited duration […],” and that it would “jeopardize
basic scientific research, eliminate competition in the markets for value-added products and
services, and convert existing barriers to entry into overwhelming legal barriers to entry.”
Hence, the paper concludes that sui generis protection of unoriginal databases in the
current proposals would have negative effects on developing countries and on the scientific
and academic communities worldwide. Moreover, it is asserted that the legitimate concerns
of database compilers can either be met within the framework of the existing IP laws and
systems and/or by using technical measures for protecting their database systems.
http://www.wipo.int/meetings/en/doc_details.jsp?doc_id=2095
16 April 2018 01:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
WIPO General Assembly
http://www.wipo.int/about-wipo/en/assemblies/
http://www.wipo.int/about-wipo/en/assemblies/
http://www.wipo.int/about-wipo/en/assemblies/
16 April 2018 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
International Court of Justice
http://www.icj-cij.org/en
http://www.icj-cij.org/en
http://www.icj-cij.org/en
16 April 2018 01:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
International Atomic Energy Agency
http://www.iaea.org/
http://www.iaea.org/
http://www.iaea.org/
16 April 2018 01:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
United Nations' Specialized Agencies,
http://www.un.org/en/sections/about-un/funds-programmes-specialized-agencies-and-others/index.html
http://www.un.org/en/sections/about-un/funds-programmes-specialized-agencies-and-others/index.html
http://www.un.org/en/sections/about-un/funds-programmes-specialized-agencies-and-others/index.html
16 April 2018 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Berne Union - The International Union of Credit & Investment Insurers
Estonia member, Afganistan as from June 2, 2018
http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ShowResults.jsp?country_id=ALL&search_what=B&bo_id=7
Estonia member, Afganistan as from June 2, 2018
http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ShowResults.jsp?country_id=ALL&search_what=B&bo_id=7
http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ShowResults.jsp?country_id=ALL&search_what=B&bo_id=7
16 April 2018 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Paris Union - Protection of Industrial Property
http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ShowResults.jsp?country_id=ALL&search_what=B&bo_id=5
"The Paris Convention, adopted in 1883, applies to industrial property in the widest sense, including patents, trademarks, industrial designs, utility models, service marks, trade names, geographical indications and the repression of unfair competition. This international agreement was the first major step taken to help creators ensure that their intellectual works were protected in other countries.
http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/paris/
International Union for the Protection of Industrial Property (Paris Union): Executive Committee
http://www.wipo.int/meetings/en/topic.jsp?group_id=126
http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ShowResults.jsp?country_id=ALL&search_what=B&bo_id=5
"The Paris Convention, adopted in 1883, applies to industrial property in the widest sense, including patents, trademarks, industrial designs, utility models, service marks, trade names, geographical indications and the repression of unfair competition. This international agreement was the first major step taken to help creators ensure that their intellectual works were protected in other countries.
http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/paris/
International Union for the Protection of Industrial Property (Paris Union): Executive Committee
http://www.wipo.int/meetings/en/topic.jsp?group_id=126
http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ShowResults.jsp?country_id=ALL&search_what=B&bo_id=5
16 April 2018 01:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Member States
WIPO’s member states determine the direction, budget and activities of the Organization through the decision-making bodies. We currently have 191 member states.
To become a member, a state must deposit an instrument of ratification or accession with the Director General. The WIPO Convention provides that membership is open to any state that is:
a member of the Paris Union for the Protection of Industrial Property, or member of the Berne Union for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works; or
a member of the United Nations, or of any of the United Nations' Specialized Agencies, or of the International Atomic Energy Agency, or that is a party to the Statute of the International Court of Justice; or
invited by the WIPO General Assembly to become a member state of the Organization.
http://www.wipo.int/members/en/
WIPO’s member states determine the direction, budget and activities of the Organization through the decision-making bodies. We currently have 191 member states.
To become a member, a state must deposit an instrument of ratification or accession with the Director General. The WIPO Convention provides that membership is open to any state that is:
a member of the Paris Union for the Protection of Industrial Property, or member of the Berne Union for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works; or
a member of the United Nations, or of any of the United Nations' Specialized Agencies, or of the International Atomic Energy Agency, or that is a party to the Statute of the International Court of Justice; or
invited by the WIPO General Assembly to become a member state of the Organization.
http://www.wipo.int/members/en/
http://www.wipo.int/members/en/
16 April 2018 01:16
Margus Meigo replied to Kaido Kärner's comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Kõla Osati on väga sarnane
kuid eip
https://erb.nlib.ee/?kid=10727619
Info Uus Pilk osas:
"
Tallinn : O/Ü PM Magasin, 1989-1994
Ilmumissagedus
4 korda aastas, 1993-1994
Endine ilmumissagedus
6 korda aastas, 1992 ; 2 korda kuus, 1989-1991
Märkus
1992, nr. 1-6 ilmusid paralleelselt: ajaleht Pilk ja ajakiri Uus Pilk
1993. a. jätkas ainult ajakirjana (1993, nr. 1-2 pealkiri: Uus Pilk, 1993, nr. 3-4 pealkiri: Pilk)
1994. a. ilmus taas ainult ajalehena: Pilk
1992-1993 formaat: 28 cm
Endised ajakirja väljaandjad: K/Ü Larus (1992) ; AS AFSA (1993, nr. 1-2)
Endised ajalehe väljaandjad: Ühistu "Teadus", Ühistu "Pilk" (1989-1991, nr. 25/26) ; Ühistu "Pilk" (1991, nr. 27/28 - 1992, nr. 6)
Märksõnad
teadus; ajalehed
Kollektiivautorid
PM Magasin (kirjastaja)
Larus (kirjastusühistu)
Pilk (ühistu)
Teadus, ühinghttps://erb.nlib.ee/?kid=10727619
16 April 2018 00:00
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
pab suhtuma neisse asjusse austusega / aukartusega
15 April 2018 23:53
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Kuigi võiks nimetada küll,
See Meditsiiniline Kanepi teema on Kapei Liidu poolt väljamõeldud, kes viskas mu oma admiddide hulgast välja kui neile meelde tuletasin, et need taimed ei ole lihtsalt asjad mida tasub riigi seadusandusesse sisse lükata niisama raha eesmärkidel, raha argumentidega ja füüsilise raviomaduste tõttu (mis on selle MTÜ põhisuunad, mõõdavad oma graafikuid ja panevad rõhku aktsiisistamisele ja füüsilisele ravile kuid eiravad vaimse ja psüholoogilise poole ning palju muud mis ühisknna korralduses muutuma hakkab lumepallina, enamasti heas suunas, senikaua kui ETTEvalmistatud on)
Selgitasin, et siin on ilmselged tõendid, vaimsete kofgemuste osas ja inimese isiksusele ja käitumisele tuleb häid või halbu omadusi juurde olenevalt sellest milline suund ette valmistatakse, st kui rääkimata jäetakse, mida kõik sellega kaasneb, lisa tasemel mõtted ja lahendused mis inimestele tuleb vaimurohuga kokku puutudes ja selle väga suurt potensiaai aidata jumalameelsuse tõusmisel, (või siis selle osas üleolevaks minemisel kui massiliselt treenitakse inimesi seda nagu alkoholi kasutama, mingi mõnuainena või niisama leevendust pakkujana...)
Kuid eks nad imago ja meeltesse sõna ravi tahtsid söövitada ja eks ma seda veel ei tea, kas see lopus kasutegur oli inimeste meeltes või mitte, sest ega valega ka pole õige head teha.
Tegu ikkagi üsõhedeelikumidega osalt ja siis ilmselgelt PEAB arvestama psühedeelikumide olemust ja lihtsaid moodusi kuidas seda õigele teele suunata, hoiatades ette inimesi olukordadest mis osadel neist võib teele tulla,
muidu on 10% kogemusi inimestel midagi sellist mida omakorda peitma proovitakse hakata, ja häbenema, sest robotajudel või muidu tugeva praktilise usuga iniestel, ei pruugi muud kogemust ja tunnet olla kui lihtsalt hea oleks ja rahulolu...
Tegelikult aga tuleb nii selgemeelsusele kui vaimukalaitega ühedusele rõhku panna, et iniemsed hakkaksid Teadlikult valima mis suunalisi vaime teenivad, mis sorti mõtteid ja misk peas tasub genereerida,
ka seda, et osadele meestele see ei sobi, teeb nad liialt femiinseks kui asjad pole tasakaalus sisemises filosoofias,
Kuid yeah, lihtsalt teeselda, et tegu on nagu mingi füüüsilise ravimiga ei ole õige, kui tegelikult füüüsiline on lisa, ja vaimne ravi on see põhiline, arusaamade laiendamine, informatsioon ikihtide tajumine jne, peab andma õpetused kaasa maksimaalsed, et milleks seda kõike kasutada saab, et inimesed ei langeks totustesse kus seda ainult lõbuks või filmiõhtuteks ilma reaalse süvaplaanita kasutataks, sest ilmselgelt, see on pigem mõeldud tõsisteks tegudeks ja toimetamisteks
See Meditsiiniline Kanepi teema on Kapei Liidu poolt väljamõeldud, kes viskas mu oma admiddide hulgast välja kui neile meelde tuletasin, et need taimed ei ole lihtsalt asjad mida tasub riigi seadusandusesse sisse lükata niisama raha eesmärkidel, raha argumentidega ja füüsilise raviomaduste tõttu (mis on selle MTÜ põhisuunad, mõõdavad oma graafikuid ja panevad rõhku aktsiisistamisele ja füüsilisele ravile kuid eiravad vaimse ja psüholoogilise poole ning palju muud mis ühisknna korralduses muutuma hakkab lumepallina, enamasti heas suunas, senikaua kui ETTEvalmistatud on)
Selgitasin, et siin on ilmselged tõendid, vaimsete kofgemuste osas ja inimese isiksusele ja käitumisele tuleb häid või halbu omadusi juurde olenevalt sellest milline suund ette valmistatakse, st kui rääkimata jäetakse, mida kõik sellega kaasneb, lisa tasemel mõtted ja lahendused mis inimestele tuleb vaimurohuga kokku puutudes ja selle väga suurt potensiaai aidata jumalameelsuse tõusmisel, (või siis selle osas üleolevaks minemisel kui massiliselt treenitakse inimesi seda nagu alkoholi kasutama, mingi mõnuainena või niisama leevendust pakkujana...)
Kuid eks nad imago ja meeltesse sõna ravi tahtsid söövitada ja eks ma seda veel ei tea, kas see lopus kasutegur oli inimeste meeltes või mitte, sest ega valega ka pole õige head teha.
Tegu ikkagi üsõhedeelikumidega osalt ja siis ilmselgelt PEAB arvestama psühedeelikumide olemust ja lihtsaid moodusi kuidas seda õigele teele suunata, hoiatades ette inimesi olukordadest mis osadel neist võib teele tulla,
muidu on 10% kogemusi inimestel midagi sellist mida omakorda peitma proovitakse hakata, ja häbenema, sest robotajudel või muidu tugeva praktilise usuga iniestel, ei pruugi muud kogemust ja tunnet olla kui lihtsalt hea oleks ja rahulolu...
Tegelikult aga tuleb nii selgemeelsusele kui vaimukalaitega ühedusele rõhku panna, et iniemsed hakkaksid Teadlikult valima mis suunalisi vaime teenivad, mis sorti mõtteid ja misk peas tasub genereerida,
ka seda, et osadele meestele see ei sobi, teeb nad liialt femiinseks kui asjad pole tasakaalus sisemises filosoofias,
Kuid yeah, lihtsalt teeselda, et tegu on nagu mingi füüüsilise ravimiga ei ole õige, kui tegelikult füüüsiline on lisa, ja vaimne ravi on see põhiline, arusaamade laiendamine, informatsioon ikihtide tajumine jne, peab andma õpetused kaasa maksimaalsed, et milleks seda kõike kasutada saab, et inimesed ei langeks totustesse kus seda ainult lõbuks või filmiõhtuteks ilma reaalse süvaplaanita kasutataks, sest ilmselgelt, see on pigem mõeldud tõsisteks tegudeks ja toimetamisteks
15 April 2018 23:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Vihje: #5
NB: Praegu suur osa pakutust, on
Üllar Bach "Magneet" postituses mainitud lisavihje juba loetletud ajakirjade listist, mille hulgas küsitud ajakirja ei ole.
Ajakirja number mis mul käes, on 90 ndatest15 April 2018 22:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Kõiv Koivu eip15 April 2018 21:56
Margus Meigo replied to Kõiv Koivu's comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Väga hea pakkumine , aga ei ole ka Aja Pulss!
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aja_Pulss
Tõesti põnev:
(AJA PULSS asutati kommunistliku ideoloogiat kandva ühiskondlik-poliitilise ajakirjanduse moderniseerimiseks. Aja Pulss hakkas ilmuma ajakirja Küsimused ja Vastused asemel 1985. aasta )https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aja_Pulss
15 April 2018 21:55
Margus Meigo commented on Alo Ervin's post.
Group: Tartu tselluloositehas
Kas see ikka tõsilugu, et suured betoon seinad enamuse raudtee ümbertuleb?
Nii looduse takistamiseks, kui sõjaliselt, siis hea maa poolitatud ja teiselepoole piiri ei ole nii lihtne abi ega kaitset viia kui vaja, nii sõja tarvis hea kui mitut muud modi rahva eralduseks ja eluvaimu poolitamiseks15 April 2018 21:51
Margus Meigo commented on Terje Oden's post.
Group: Tartu tselluloositehas
Ma ikkagi ei mõista, MIKS nad pidevalt uut vett peale laskma peavad ja siis puhastatud (elujõuetu vee) tagasi loodusesse laskma peaksid.. kas mõtekam poleks omale vee vannid teha kus nad ise oma solgitud vett uuesti ringkasutusse võtavad?
Et juhuks kui need kollid oma tehase tehtud saavad siis kas selles osas ei saa suruda peale, et mis loogikaga vaja värsket looduslikku vett neil ja see vesi mis nii puhastatud ja elutuks tehtud on, et miks nad seda oma settekaevudes hoidmisejärel ise uuesti kasutusse võtta ei võiks?
Ega tagasi veekogusse seda lastes... nu see on Eesti VAIMSUST ka elus hoidev elujõgi ju.. ei saa lihtsalt tavatasemel siin arvestada asju..15 April 2018 21:49
Margus Meigo replied to Ruth Koppel's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Indrek Vainu kui meil vaid oleks nii pikalt ettemõtlevaid, kasvõi valesti, aga nii pikalt, siis juba kisuks näo naerule, praegused 4 aasta valitsused maksimum 12,16 aastat mõtlevad (ehk, kuidas ülejärgmised valimised ülevõita) ja neid juba peetakse visionäärideks ja pikavisiooniga dinosaurusteks.
enamus ikka nagu suuremosa newAge liberaalseid noori punase esoteerilise propaganda tulemusel, ainult hetkes elavad, ilma armastamata mineviku ja selle tulevikuga mida tuul ja ülemad jõud toovad... ilma, et ise sooviks võtta vastutust ja soovi seda tulevikku, teistegi tulevaste põlvede tarvis suunata ja kehtestada.15 April 2018 21:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Päris korras hulk.. arvestada tuleb et siis neil omakorda on päris suur hulk kes neid kullab:
http://rl911truth.org/index.php/petition-a-members
http://rl911truth.org/index.php/petition-a-members
http://rl911truth.org/index.php/petition-a-members
15 April 2018 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Vihje #4:
Ajakiri on : Eesti, Inglise ja Venekeeles eraldi väljaannetena15 April 2018 19:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Eestikelne ikkagi15 April 2018 19:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Raimond Tamm aga mis nad siis Thacher'ist, Kelamist ja Parekist sedasi, ühes ajakirjas räägivad, iga tegelase jaoks terve leht-paar.
Eip ole, kuigi venemaaga küll, ka seotud jah15 April 2018 19:19
Margus Meigo replied to Ruth Koppel's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Indrek Vainu asoo, aga see minig eko kott ehk, mingi uus suund.
Või puhas laiskus või kuritegelikus?15 April 2018 18:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Vihje #3
Ajakirja kaan ülevalt on Punase-Valge-Sinise värvides15 April 2018 18:20
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
aa nu jah, kui selle nurga alt vaadata..
15 April 2018 18:17
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
see hoopis vastupidine olukord ju
15 April 2018 18:17
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
müüa võib, aga mitte selleks, et jama teha
15 April 2018 17:31
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
ja molemal pool on palju ebausklike, tarku ja häid, kuid vahe on selles, et aatelised iniemsed ei müü ennast kunagi, et oma kodmaale jama teha
15 April 2018 17:30
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Demokraatia ja komunism, liberalism, luthersus ja rooma impeeriumi ja normannide pättide tänapäeva lapsed on suht sarnane punt mu meeltes, selles osas vaimselt nad ongi, sest iniemsed jaotuvad kaheks, juhtivatest:
Need kes on Jumalaga Ausad
ja need kes mingi muu agendaga
Need kes on Jumalaga Ausad
ja need kes mingi muu agendaga
15 April 2018 17:30
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
mitte kõik, aga pigem eeldada, et kõik kui, et mittekeegi
15 April 2018 17:26
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
need ärimehed kes juba 90ndatel olid rikad ja mõjukad keda kuulda võeti.. oelks ju elementaarne eeldada, et nad omamooodi tegelased pidid olema.. et tol ajal juba mõjukad olla..
15 April 2018 17:26
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
See väga tervitatav nähe kui rahvas ise tahab asju teha,
Kuid siinkohal kas Sa tõesti kahtled, et kes ja miks ?
Rahvas tahtis, sellest sai teada Hispaania massoonid ja punased, siis nad leppisid kokku, et võtame revolutisooni üle, paneme avaliku alatusena need eriti lambukesed veel oma lippu kandma viisnurga ja kolmnurgaga mis on kahe eelmise VÄGA kommunistliku ja VÄGA masoonliku org poolt pandud VÄGA kommunistlikule riigile.. tunned ära mis maa lipupõhjal eks ?
Sesst kui nad üle ei võta siis mine tea, vb mõistlikult tulevad ise võimule veel.. need kes jjuhivad revolutsiooni ja need kes selle vastu, on ühed ja samad,
jah, rev juhtide osas on muidugi ka päris inimesi ... kuid ega nad omavahel ei julge sisetüli tekitada.. umbes nagu 90 ndatel meie sellega ämbri astusime ja jumalale lootes.. hea, et siiamaanigi välja oleme jõudnud..
Ainuke mis nad jätsid alles orginaalist. on kuldne punane, mis on märk sellest mida nad kontrollivad.
Kuid siinkohal kas Sa tõesti kahtled, et kes ja miks ?
Rahvas tahtis, sellest sai teada Hispaania massoonid ja punased, siis nad leppisid kokku, et võtame revolutisooni üle, paneme avaliku alatusena need eriti lambukesed veel oma lippu kandma viisnurga ja kolmnurgaga mis on kahe eelmise VÄGA kommunistliku ja VÄGA masoonliku org poolt pandud VÄGA kommunistlikule riigile.. tunned ära mis maa lipupõhjal eks ?
Sesst kui nad üle ei võta siis mine tea, vb mõistlikult tulevad ise võimule veel.. need kes jjuhivad revolutsiooni ja need kes selle vastu, on ühed ja samad,
jah, rev juhtide osas on muidugi ka päris inimesi ... kuid ega nad omavahel ei julge sisetüli tekitada.. umbes nagu 90 ndatel meie sellega ämbri astusime ja jumalale lootes.. hea, et siiamaanigi välja oleme jõudnud..
Ainuke mis nad jätsid alles orginaalist. on kuldne punane, mis on märk sellest mida nad kontrollivad.
15 April 2018 17:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et mis värvitoonis need lood on, see kas tõde kasutatud selleks on, on iseette asi, aga lihtsalt vaimse tunnetuse põhjal peaks olema päris lihtne vist ka siis kui ei olda mitte mingit pidi tune sini patrioot usa texase formaadis,
St, et kuig ma Nüüdseks arusaanud, et Ju Geroge.W.Bush on parem kui Donald J. Trump
Väga mitmel tasemel, esiteks üks elab paneelmajas, keset linna ja teine eelistab inimesemoodi elu looduse ligidal, see juba ise on väga oluline märk
Ühel on päris naine teisel on projekt naine
kelle EI ole MITTE MINGIT pistmist armastusega,
kuigi tal sobiks armastada küll, et to naine oma pere ja lähedaste heaolunimel keelduks avalikustama sisenüansse, enne kuisee käsk Parteilt tuleb,
sest ega Trump pole otsustaja vaid need kes temale selle võimu serveerinud on, kes teda rahade keskel hoidnud on
pikalt planeerinud on, tolle näitlejaga kellel pole moraalne kuid seeeest toorest jõudu kellegile kaela saata kui vaja, nähtamatult, rohkem veel, nii et üle jääb... kuid mitte niipalju, et julgeda loobuda allumisest ja hakata Päris Ameeriklaseks
St, et kuig ma Nüüdseks arusaanud, et Ju Geroge.W.Bush on parem kui Donald J. Trump
Väga mitmel tasemel, esiteks üks elab paneelmajas, keset linna ja teine eelistab inimesemoodi elu looduse ligidal, see juba ise on väga oluline märk
Ühel on päris naine teisel on projekt naine
kelle EI ole MITTE MINGIT pistmist armastusega,
kuigi tal sobiks armastada küll, et to naine oma pere ja lähedaste heaolunimel keelduks avalikustama sisenüansse, enne kuisee käsk Parteilt tuleb,
sest ega Trump pole otsustaja vaid need kes temale selle võimu serveerinud on, kes teda rahade keskel hoidnud on
pikalt planeerinud on, tolle näitlejaga kellel pole moraalne kuid seeeest toorest jõudu kellegile kaela saata kui vaja, nähtamatult, rohkem veel, nii et üle jääb... kuid mitte niipalju, et julgeda loobuda allumisest ja hakata Päris Ameeriklaseks
15 April 2018 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siit ei pea isegi ridadevahelt lugema:
"In Germany in 1933, the Nazis, wanting a pretext to arrest leftists, shut down unfriendly newspapers, and annul civil rights, started a fire in the German Reichstag and blamed it on Communists. Their proof that Communists were responsible was the presence at the site of a feeble-minded left-wing radical, who had been brought there by the Nazis themselves.4
In 1939, when Hitler wanted a pretext to attack Poland, he had Germans dressed as Poles stage raids on German outposts on the Polish-German border. In some cases, a dead German convict dressed as a Pole was left at the scene. The next day, Hitler, referring to these “border incidents,” attacked Poland in “self-defense,” thereby starting the European part of World War II.5
We Americans, viewing our country as the “exceptional nation,” like to believe that our wars have not originated in such deceit. But an examination of the historical evidence reveals otherwise---for example, the Mexican-American war, with its false claim that Mexico had “shed American blood on the American soil,”6 the Spanish-American war, with its “Remember the Maine” hoax,7 the war in the Philippines, with its false claim that the Filipinos fired first,8 and the Vietnam war, with its Tonkin Gulf hoax.9
After World War II, moreover, the United States organized false-flag terrorist attacks in European countries, such as Italy, France, and Belgium, to discredit Communists and other leftists, to prevent them from coming to power through the ballot box. NATO, guided by the CIA and the Pentagon and working with right-wing organizations, organized terrorist attacks that killed innocent civilians and then, by having evidence planted, got the attacks blamed on leftists.10
Would the US military do this if it involved killing US citizens? In 1962, shortly after Fidel Castro had overthrown the pro-American dictator Batista, the Joint Chiefs of Staff prepared a plan, known as Operation Northwoods, that contained “pretexts which would provide justification for US military intervention in Cuba.” American citizens would have been killed in some of scenarios, such as a “Remember the Maine” incident, in which: “We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantánamo Bay and blame Cuba.”11 Only President Kennedy’s veto prevented these plans from becoming operational. "
"In Germany in 1933, the Nazis, wanting a pretext to arrest leftists, shut down unfriendly newspapers, and annul civil rights, started a fire in the German Reichstag and blamed it on Communists. Their proof that Communists were responsible was the presence at the site of a feeble-minded left-wing radical, who had been brought there by the Nazis themselves.4
In 1939, when Hitler wanted a pretext to attack Poland, he had Germans dressed as Poles stage raids on German outposts on the Polish-German border. In some cases, a dead German convict dressed as a Pole was left at the scene. The next day, Hitler, referring to these “border incidents,” attacked Poland in “self-defense,” thereby starting the European part of World War II.5
We Americans, viewing our country as the “exceptional nation,” like to believe that our wars have not originated in such deceit. But an examination of the historical evidence reveals otherwise---for example, the Mexican-American war, with its false claim that Mexico had “shed American blood on the American soil,”6 the Spanish-American war, with its “Remember the Maine” hoax,7 the war in the Philippines, with its false claim that the Filipinos fired first,8 and the Vietnam war, with its Tonkin Gulf hoax.9
After World War II, moreover, the United States organized false-flag terrorist attacks in European countries, such as Italy, France, and Belgium, to discredit Communists and other leftists, to prevent them from coming to power through the ballot box. NATO, guided by the CIA and the Pentagon and working with right-wing organizations, organized terrorist attacks that killed innocent civilians and then, by having evidence planted, got the attacks blamed on leftists.10
Would the US military do this if it involved killing US citizens? In 1962, shortly after Fidel Castro had overthrown the pro-American dictator Batista, the Joint Chiefs of Staff prepared a plan, known as Operation Northwoods, that contained “pretexts which would provide justification for US military intervention in Cuba.” American citizens would have been killed in some of scenarios, such as a “Remember the Maine” incident, in which: “We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantánamo Bay and blame Cuba.”11 Only President Kennedy’s veto prevented these plans from becoming operational. "
15 April 2018 17:15
Margus Meigo replied to Alexander von Vask's comment.
karm
15 April 2018 17:15
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
punased mind ennastki, u 5 a tagasi kutsusid liituma, sisekolonni,
elama ja iseseisvust ehitama
elama ja iseseisvust ehitama
15 April 2018 16:47
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
jääb mulje, et nad oskavad, inimesed, ainult siis punaseid tunda, kui neid koos avalikult kom partei kohtumisel marxi lugemas avastatakse, teist põlve järjest
enne seda on kõik juba nii suhteline..
enne seda on kõik juba nii suhteline..
15 April 2018 16:46
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
point on selles, kes seda asja juhib ja ülevõtab,
siin ABSOLUUTSELT ei ole mingit kahtlust, et kas on tegu masoonliku versiooniga vana veripunase süva kommunistlikute mustade jõududega või, et kas on midagi muud.
Selles osas mul vahest tundub, et jääb mulje, nagu inimesed seda ise arueisaaks.
Kas nad ainuüksi lipu olemust ei viitsinud uurida enne kui sellega nad tänavale jooksid
siin ABSOLUUTSELT ei ole mingit kahtlust, et kas on tegu masoonliku versiooniga vana veripunase süva kommunistlikute mustade jõududega või, et kas on midagi muud.
Selles osas mul vahest tundub, et jääb mulje, nagu inimesed seda ise arueisaaks.
Kas nad ainuüksi lipu olemust ei viitsinud uurida enne kui sellega nad tänavale jooksid
15 April 2018 16:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või kes iniemste püüded ülevõtsid st,
ja siis samalajal hispaaniaga koostööd tehes mängivad oma ülestõusu kokkulepitult maha,
Ülestõusu maha mägnida saad turvaliselt nii kui tõstad omajõududega kiirelt areneva ülestõusu üles, paned oma sümbolid peale.. ja siis mängid ohvrit pärast
Viga enamasti saavad vaid üksikud reaalsed Legendid.. mitte saamamhed kes ürituse hukatusse suunasid, aruka planeerimise asemel
ja siis samalajal hispaaniaga koostööd tehes mängivad oma ülestõusu kokkulepitult maha,
Ülestõusu maha mägnida saad turvaliselt nii kui tõstad omajõududega kiirelt areneva ülestõusu üles, paned oma sümbolid peale.. ja siis mängid ohvrit pärast
Viga enamasti saavad vaid üksikud reaalsed Legendid.. mitte saamamhed kes ürituse hukatusse suunasid, aruka planeerimise asemel
15 April 2018 16:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
+ kataloonia kommunistide-vabamüürlaste organiseeritud massid kelle püüded ülevõeti
15 April 2018 16:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Kindel leht kus reaalsed vastuarvutused on tehtud ja selgitused ka , mis on metsa ja puupõllu vahe jne
Kui palju on puupõlde, kui palju üle 100 aastaseid noormetsi ja kas meil üldse päris ürgseid reaalseid metsasi ongi, kus üks puu suutnud kasvada teisest täiskasvanud puust, nagu looduses nad sadutuhandeid aastaid enne meid teinud on
See kaart mul juba aastaid ammuseid aega tagasi oli plaan teha, kuid puuduvad koostöölised, ressursid eelkõige
Google earth kaardi peale saaks kenasti teha neid kihte
ja muud moodi ka.
Vaja stabiilselt koguda ja kaardistada, et 10 aasta pärast oleks juba ümberlükkamatud täppismõõtmed ja monitoring süsteemid üleval,15 April 2018 15:58
Margus Meigo commented on Urmas E Heino Heinaste's post.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
ALATI tuleb IGA sellise postituse taha ja väite taha lisada ka kindel fakt, arvutus ja vastuväite asukoht, muidu sulgeme ennast iseenda teadmiste ringi ja väljastpoolt näib nagu niisama kommenteeriad kellel pole mingit reaalset tõestust ega arusaame,15 April 2018 15:55
Margus Meigo replied to Anu Lokke's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
ALATI tuleb IGA sellise postituse taha ja väite taha lisada ka kindel fakt, arvutus ja vastuväite asukoht, muidu sulgeme ennast iseenda teadmiste ringi ja väljastpoolt näib nagu niisama kommenteeriad kellel pole mingit reaalset tõestust ega arusaame,15 April 2018 15:55
Margus Meigo replied to Ruth Koppel's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Aga need kilekottides kuskile metsa siis polegi niisama äravisatud neid taimi mõne inimese laiskusest?15 April 2018 15:52
Margus Meigo replied to Jaan Vilo's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Pildid Pildid palun, seni kuni veel saab.
See on ainukene tõendi ligidane tõend, ilma selleta on peaaegu sama kui mitte midagi,
ja kui maha magatakse pättuste kohtadest pilti teha.. siis need pättused kaovad ühe ööga.. ja räägitakse pärast, tehakse nende endi poolt veel pildid rünnakuks, "NÄe kõik on korras, on alles luulutajad.."15 April 2018 15:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Paul-Eerik Rummo ja Toomas Käbin väga suurest hulgast toimetuskolleegiumist paar nime
https://www.postimees.ee/2495709/toomas-kabin-eesti-esikoht-ei-ole-enam-nii-kindel-vaartpaberikommentaar-puhad-toid-passiivsusehttps://www.postimees.ee/2495709/toomas-kabin-eesti-esikoht-ei-ole-enam-nii-kindel-vaartpaberikommentaar-puhad-toid-passiivsuse
15 April 2018 15:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Vihje #2:
Tugiasutused ajakirjale on:
Eesti Vabariigi Välisministeeriumi välismajanduspoliitika osakond & Rootsi kuninglik inseneriteaduste Akadeemia (ja veel mõned, jätan sooja)15 April 2018 15:10
Margus Meigo replied to Merle Pulk's comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Mis ajakiri see muidu on, ma täpsemalt eip leidnutki seda?15 April 2018 15:07
Margus Meigo replied to Merle Pulk's comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Kõlajärgi juba sarnasem , kuid eip15 April 2018 15:01
Margus Meigo replied to Üllar Bach's comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Eip
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kultuur_ja_Elu
Ajakirjast kultuur ja elu:
"Kultuur ja Elu (kuni 1959. aastani Kultuuritöötaja) on eesti ajakiri, mis ilmub aastast 1958.
Nõukogude ajal oli Kultuur ja Elu Eesti NSV Kultuuriministeeriumi ja Eesti NSV Ametiühingute Nõukogu kuukiri, mis käsitles eelkõige isetegevuslaste loodud kultuuri ja oli mõeldud kultuuritöötajate abistamiseks. Kultuur ja Elu avaldas muu hulgas lühinäidendeid, ajakirjas ilmus pikka aega fotokunsti rubriik. Aastal 1971 oli ajakirja tiraaž 30 000.
1980. aastatel avaldas Kultuur ja Elu rahvusliku kallakuga kultuurikirjutisi (autoriteks Mart Laar, Sulev Valner, Kalle Muuli, Jüri Leesment jt) ja lisapoognatena KE Raamatukogu sarjas mitmeid kultuurilooliselt tähtsaid kordustrükke Teise maailmasõja eel Eesti Vabariigis ilmunud originaalteostest ja tõlgetest (mh Oswald Spengleri "Õhtumaa allakäik", Oskar Looritsa "Eestluse elujõud" ja Artur Adsoni "Lahkumine").
Eesti Vabariigi taastamisele eelnenud laulva revolutsiooni ajal hakkasid ajakirjas ilmuma ajakajalised poliitilised kirjutised ning varem keelatud mälestused Nõukogude režiimi toimepandud küüditamistest ja teistest inimsusvastastest kuritegudest.[1]
Alates 1990. aastatest on Kultuur ja Elu rahvusliku suunitlusega ajakiri, mille põhiteemad on Nõukogude režiimi kuriteod ning Nõukogude-vastane vabadusvõitlus. Ajapikku on sisu põhirõhk nihkunud militaarajaloole, kitsamalt Teisele maailmasõjale, kajastades seda eelkõige vabaduse eest peetud võitlusena Nõukogude Liidu vastu.
2009. aasta seisuga annab ajakirja välja Markleis OÜ. "
// Kui firma on mingi asja omanik.. siis siin jah.. ka oht et need asjad kaovad..https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kultuur_ja_Elu
15 April 2018 14:47
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Tamm's comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Eip ole täheke ( :D )
https://kultuur.postimees.ee/216738/lasteajakiri-taheke-peab-50-sunnipaeva
http://www.sirp.ee/s1-artiklid/c7-kirjandus/t-heke-tuhiseb-edasi/
" tänapäeva kommude kultuurilehest Sirp:
Tähekest mäletavad kõik, ent mis tast sai, mis juhtus?
Midagi ei juhtunud. Täheke on kogu aeg edasi ilmunud, 1960. aastast alates. Kuid Eesti Vabariik tõi Tähekesele rasked ajad. Vahepeal püüti iseseisvalt hakkama saada, kultuuriministeerium andis näpuotsaga raha. Ühel hetkel läks ta siis Perioodika alla. Aga ka Perioodika grupis on ta üsna erilisel kohal, teda on raske kultuuriajakirjadega ühte patta panna. Näiteks marketingistrateegia on väga erinev. Kui reklaamida, et ?mulle meeldivad targad mehed?, mahuvad sinna rõõmsalt sisse TMK ja Looming ja muud väljaanded, aga Tähekest sinna panna ei saa. See on täiesti omaette asi.
Selline ajakiri saab minu meelest ilmuda ainult riiklikul toel, erakapitalil põhinevas tuleksid hoopis teised teemad, aga see oleks ikka niivõrd vähe tulus, et ühel hetkel mõtleks omanik, et ?sitta meil seda neljakümne viie aastast ajakirja vaja, paneme kinni?. "https://kultuur.postimees.ee/216738/lasteajakiri-taheke-peab-50-sunnipaeva
15 April 2018 14:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Merle Pulk, see ajakiri omab kuidagi riimiliselt Sinu ühe nimega, kõlapoolest, olulist siduvust (kaudselt) :)15 April 2018 14:32
Margus Meigo replied to Üllar Bach's comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
VIhje:
Kuid ei ole Magneet, Siin listis ka ei ole:
http://www.pkr.ee/osakonnad/perioodikasaal/ajakirjade_vanemad_aastakaigud.html
List ajakirjadest mida see mida mõtlen, ei ole:
Eestikeelsed ajakirjad
Eestikeelsed ajakirjad:
Aed 2002-
Agraarteadus1990-2005
Aja Kiri (Kanada) 1984, 1986, 1988-1989
Aja Lugu (Aja Kiri lisa) 1987
Aja Pulss 1985-1993
Ajalooline Ajakiri: Akadeemilise Ajaloo Seltsi väljaanne 1927, 1928, 1934
Ajalooline Ajakiri (end. Kleio) 1998 -
Akadeemia 1989-
Akadeemiake 2007- 2011
Ametlikud Teadaanded 2000
Anne&Stiil 2010-
Ariadne Lõng 2001-2011
Austrvegr: Idatee 1995-1997
Cinema 1995-1998
Cosmopolitan 2013-
Diivan 2010-
Digi 2013-
Director 2003-2004, 2007-
Eesti Arheoloogiaajakiri 1998, 2000-
Eesti Arhitektuur (ajakirja Varamu lisa) 1939-1940
Eesti Arst (end. Nõukogude Eesti Tervishoid) 1989-
Eesti Evangeelne Luterlik Kirik 1990-1992
Eesti Jurist (end. Nõukogude Õigus) 1990-1994
Eesti Kalandus 1937
Eesti Kalur (Rootsi) 1985, 1987-1990, 1992
Eesti Kirik (Rootsi) 1953-1954, 1958, 1960-1967, 1969, 1973-1980, 1988, 1990, 1992-1997
Eesti Kirjandus 1908-1915, 1920, 1923-1926, 1928-1940
Eesti Koda 1989-1991
Eesti Kodu (Kanada) 1958
Eesti Kommunist 1985-1989
Eesti Kunstiakadeemia Ajakiri 2005-2006
Eesti Loodus 1958-
Eesti Majanduse Teataja (end. Eesti Välismajanduse Teataja) 2010-
Eesti Mets 1992-
Eesti Naine 1937, 1944 (Tänapäev`a köites), 1949-1950, (1951-1989 Nõukogude Naine), 1989-
Eesti NSV Ülemnõukogu Teataja 1961-1965
Eesti NSV Ülemnõukogu ja Valitsuse Teataja 1966-1990
Eesti Põlevloodusvarad ja -jäätmed 2003-
Eesti Statistika: kuukiri 1992-2008
Eesti Statistika: Kvartalikiri 2009-
Eesti Turvas 1996-2001
Eesti Vabariigi Ülemnõukogu ja Valitsuse Teataja 1990
Eesti Õde 1996-2003
Ehitaja 2010-
Ehitus ja Arhitektuur 1967-1987
Elamu 2008-2010, 2014
Eliit 1995-1996
Elukiri 2010-
Elu Lood 2013-
Eraettevõtete Ametnikkude Koja Teataja 1938-1939
Eramu&Korter 2010-
Eurokratt 2007-
Favoriit 1993-1999
GEO 2008-
GO Discover 2005-
Haridus (end. Nõukogude Kool) 1989-2011
Hea Kodanik 2009-
Horisont 1967-
Häire 112 2015-
Häädemeeste Elu 1990-2005
Ilutegija 1995-199
Imeline Ajalugu 2012-
Imeline Teadus 2011-
Inseneeria: tootmise ja tehnika ajakiri 2008- juuli 2015
Interjöör 2004-2008
Jooksja 2009-
Juridica 1993-
Kaitse Kodu 2008-
Kalastaja 1996-
Kasvatus 1919-1920, 1922,1924, 1929,1931-1932
Kauge Kodu (Saksamaa) 1946-1947
Keel ja Kirjandus 1958-
Kehakultuur 1970-1990
Kleio 1988-1997
Kodu&Aed 2010-
Kodu&Ehitus: TM – 2002-2003, 2005, 2007, 2009-
Kodukiri 1992-
Kodukolle (Rootsi/Kanada) 1945-1947, 1951-1953
Kodutohter 1988-
Kooliuuenduslane 1996, 1998, 2000
Kooruke ja Iva 1997, 1999-2004
Kroonika – jooksev aasta
Kroonika Kodu-eri 2015-
Kultuur ja Elu 1966-
Kunst 1958-1995
Kunst ja Kodu 1958-1990
kunst.ee 2000-
Käsitöö 2005-
Käsitöö: album 1963, 1972-1975, 1977-1979, 1981-1993
Käsitööleht (Pärnu) 1991-1999
Käsitööleht (Kunst) 1991-1992
Külakiri 2010-2012
Loodus 1997-2006
Loodusesõber 2007-
Looming 1923-1933, 1936-1941, 1945-
„Loomingu“ Raamatukogu 1957-
Luup 1995-2002
Maa: Riigi Maa-ameti kuukiri 1994
Maailma Vaade 2007-
Maakodu (end. Sotsialistlik Põllumajandus) 1989-
Maamajandus (end. Sotsialistlik Põllumajandus) 2000- 2012
Magneet: Eesti Ekspressi kuulisa 1993-1995
Maja 1994-
Maksumaksja 2013-
Mana 1959-1995
Maret 1938-1940
Maret 2013-2015
Mari 2013-
Maurus 1995-2000
Mees 1995-1997
Meie Kodu (Kodu&Aed lisa) 2005, 2007-2009
Meie Tee (USA) 1931-1934
Mihus: noorsootöö muutuvas maailmas - 2009- 2014
Minu Käsitööd 2012-
Mood 2012-
Muuseum 1995-1996, 1998-2000, 2007-
Märka Last 2004-2006, 2009-
Müstiline Ajalugu 2015-
Naised -jooksev aasta
Naisteleht -jooksev aasta
Naistelehe Nipiraamat 2009-
National Geographic Eesti 2012-
Noorus 1967-1997
Nõukogude Eesti Tervishoid 1980-1988
Nõukogude Naine 1964, 1970-1988
Olion (Austraalia) 1956-1960
Oma Keel: OK 2000-
Oma Maa (Rootsi) 1946-1948
Oma Maitse 2011-
Our Life (Saksamaa, eesti k.) 1948
Paat 2007-
Paradoks 1995-2005
Pere ja Kodu 1994-
Pikker 1962-1963, 1983-1995, 2000-2001
Pildipost (Saksamaa) 1947-1948
Pilt ja Sõna 1961-1966
Politsei 1994-2000
Politseileht 2006-2009
Psühholoogia Sinule 2011-
Puutepunktid 2011-
Põhjala Tähistel (Kanada) 1957-1993
Põllumajandus: rahvalik põllumajanduse ajakiri 1935-1939, 1942/1943
Põllumajandus (end. Sotsialistlik Põllumajandus) 1989-2000
Põllumees (Uus Talu köites) 1938
Pööning 2016-
Raamatukogu 1990-
Raamatupidamisuudised 2009-
Radar 2010-
Reisimaailm (end. Eliit) 1997-
Riigi Teataja I 1990-2005
Riigi Teataja II 1993-2005
Riigi Teataja III 1995-2005
Riigi Teataja Lisa 1991-2005
Riigikogu Toimetised 2002-2009
Siluett 1960/1961, 1966-1992
Sinuga 1995, 1997-
Sirje 1992-1996
Sisustaja: Äripäeva lisa 2010-
Sotsiaaltöö 1997-
Sotsialistlik Põllumajandus 1961-1963, 1965-1966, 1970-1989
Sport&Muuseum 2012-
Sporditäht (end. Spordiilm) 1993-2009
Stiil 1991-2009
Sõna (Rootsi) 1948-1950
Sõnumitooja: Eest Akadeemilise Orientaalseltsi kuuleht 1989-1991
Taluperenaine 1930-1932, 1936-1937,1940
Tarkade Klubi 2007-2011
Teater 1935-1936
Teater.Muusika.Kino 1982-
Teeleht 1997-2005
Tehnika ja Tootmine 1957-1995
Tehnika Kõigile: Insenerikoja väljaanne 1939-1940
Tehnikamaailm 1998-
Tennis 2008-
Tervendaja 2007-
Tervis 1998-2000
Tervisetark 2014-2015
Tervispluss (end. Tervis ja Tervisetrend) 2000-
Tiiu 2011-
Triinu (Kanada) 1955-1957, 1959-1963, 1965, 1967, 1970-1971, 1974-1990
Tulehoidja (Rootsi) 1981-1983, 1990, 1993
Tulimuld (Rootsi) 1950-1993
Tuna 1998-
Tõusev Noorus 1937-1940
Tänapäev 1935-1937
Uus Talu 1925, 1940
Vaba Eesti: vabadusmeelsete ideede foorum (Rootsi/Kanada) 1960-1964
Valguse Kaja: Eesti Pimedate Liidu infoleht 2005-2006, 2008
Vihik: Eesti Kirjanduse Seltsi kvartaliajakiri 2002-2006
Vikerkaar 1986-
Vikerlane (Rootsi) 1949
Võitlev Eesti (USA) 1952-1953
Wälis Eesti (USA) 1926
Värske Rõhk 2005-
Õiguskeel 1995-2007, (2008. a.st veebis)
Üks: terviseajakiri tervetele 2005-2014
Võõrkeelsed ajakirjad
Anna 1989, 1992-2007
Brides 2007
Burda 1987-
Designer Knitting 2009-
Kauneimmat Käsityöt 2005-2009
Kotiliesi Käsityö 2015-
Lena 2007-2011
Max Planck Research 2001-
Moda 2013-2014
National Geographic 1959, 1961, 1963- 2011
Ottobre 2010-
Suuri Käsityölehti 1992-1993, 1999- 2013
Total Film 2013-
Verena 1990, 1992-2007
Vogue 2013-
Вокруг света - jooksev aasta
За рулем - jooksev aasta
Здоровье - jooksev aasta
Домашний очаг - jooksev aasta
Крестьянка - jooksev aasta
Караван истории - jooksev aasta
Красивая Жизнь - jooksev aasta
Наука и жизнь - jooksev aasta
Огонек - jooksev aasta
Рукоделие 1974, 1977-1981, 1983-1991
Сабрина 2007-2008http://www.pkr.ee/osakonnad/perioodikasaal/ajakirjade_vanemad_aastakaigud.html
15 April 2018 14:27
Margus Meigo replied to Üllar Bach's comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Aastaarvudelt jah umbes sinnakanti mis Magneet
https://osta-ee.postimees.ee/ajakiri-magneet-juuni-1994-25769012.htmlhttps://osta-ee.postimees.ee/ajakiri-magneet-juuni-1994-25769012.html
15 April 2018 14:27
Margus Meigo replied to Üllar Bach's comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Veel parem pakkumine, kuid eip
https://www.err.ee/384563/veebileht-global-estonian-puuab-valismaal-elavaid-eestlasi-uhendadahttps://www.err.ee/384563/veebileht-global-estonian-puuab-valismaal-elavaid-eestlasi-uhendada
15 April 2018 14:21
Margus Meigo replied to Üllar Bach's comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Suts uuem ikka15 April 2018 14:19
Margus Meigo replied to Üllar Bach's comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Päris hea pakkumine, aga eip
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Küsimused_ja_Vastused
__ ___ ___
"Küsimused ja Vastused oli EKP Keskkomitee ühiskondlik-poliitiline ajakiri, mis ilmus EKP Keskkomitee ajakirja Eesti Kommunist lisana aastail 1961–1984. Aastatel 1959–1960 ilmus ajakiri kaheksa korda aastas, 1961–1974 üks kord kuus, aastast 1975 kaks korda kuus.
Ajakiri sisaldas propagandaartikleid ja suuremalt jaolt artikleid, mis olid vastusteks lugejate küsimustele väga erinevatel teemadel. Ajakirja toimetuses on töötanud Eesti kirjanikke, nagu Andres Vanapa (1956–1970), Enn Vetemaa (1963–1965), Andres Ehin (1965–1966), Henn-Kaarel Hellat (1968–1975?) jt.
Küsimuste ja Vastuste eellane oli ajakiri Abiks Agitaatorile (1945–1960) ja järglane ajakiri Aja Pulss, mis hakkas ilmuma aastal 1985. "https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Küsimused_ja_Vastused
15 April 2018 14:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Neid asju ongi hea, kui nii pikalt,eraldi, räägitud, siis ainutl tõsistele teadjahimulistele ja siirastele saadaval
15 April 2018 13:32
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's post.
100%
14 April 2018 17:24
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
medistiinilist arusaamise alamäära oleks vaja kehtestada riigis
13 April 2018 17:45
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek J's comment.
Skisofreenia ISA muudab ajukeemiat,
ja antidepresandid on absoluutselt teada ,et muudavad,
Ja ajukeemiat eriti .. vot ei ole kindel mis muutusi nad otsivad, millistelt kasutajatelt, tõeväärne uuring teadis rääkida, et see üks väheseid asju planeedil, mis ajurakke juurde kasvatab
Kuid ega kõigile ei olegi kõilke vaja,
aga äärmiselt nadi kui enamusele piiratakse absuluutselt kõiki neid aineid mis on paljudele kasulikud
ja antidepresandid on absoluutselt teada ,et muudavad,
Ja ajukeemiat eriti .. vot ei ole kindel mis muutusi nad otsivad, millistelt kasutajatelt, tõeväärne uuring teadis rääkida, et see üks väheseid asju planeedil, mis ajurakke juurde kasvatab
Kuid ega kõigile ei olegi kõilke vaja,
aga äärmiselt nadi kui enamusele piiratakse absuluutselt kõiki neid aineid mis on paljudele kasulikud
13 April 2018 16:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid ehk ei peaks solvuma ja isiklikult võtma, ehk ausalt, päriselt ehk ka ausalt ongi siiralt sedasi, et ei teata.
Naine suht lahke ja siira häälega tundub
Naine suht lahke ja siira häälega tundub
13 April 2018 14:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja räägime siin raviks, mitte summutmaiseks
13 April 2018 14:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu ja siis depresiooni raviga tegelvad inimese,d ja nad polnud KUULNUTKI et psühedeelikumid on kõige mõjusamad depresiooni raviks, Wau nagu
Nagu paralel maailmas on osad laborid ja teadlased
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=ubuntu&hs=lez&channel=fs&dcr=0&ei=ApTQWpS4MIOv6ASnmJzgAw&q=magic+mushrooms+depression+effect&oq=magic+mushrooms+depression+effect&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i22i30k1.529466.535922.0.536006.33.31.0.0.0.0.264.2704.16j8j2.26.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..7.20.2314...0j35i39k1j0i67k1j0i131k1j0i203k1j0i10i203k1.0.nUa7BCC5424
Nagu paralel maailmas on osad laborid ja teadlased
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=ubuntu&hs=lez&channel=fs&dcr=0&ei=ApTQWpS4MIOv6ASnmJzgAw&q=magic+mushrooms+depression+effect&oq=magic+mushrooms+depression+effect&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i22i30k1.529466.535922.0.536006.33.31.0.0.0.0.264.2704.16j8j2.26.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..7.20.2314...0j35i39k1j0i67k1j0i131k1j0i203k1j0i10i203k1.0.nUa7BCC5424
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=ubuntu&hs=lez&channel=fs&dcr=0&ei=ApTQWpS4MIOv6ASnmJzgAw&q=magic+mushrooms+depression+effect&oq=magic+mushrooms+depression+effect&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i22i30k1.529466.535922.0.536006.33.31.0.0.0.0.264.2704.16j8j2.26.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..7.20.2314...0j35i39k1j0i67k1j0i131k1j0i203k1j0i10i203k1.0.nUa7BCC5424
13 April 2018 14:42
Margus Meigo commented on Ando Kiviberg's post.
Resurssi jägub . kujuta ettte kui selle tarkade ja auste asjade jaoks kasutada, organiseeritult
13 April 2018 14:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
13 April 2018 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: "Vandenõuteooriad" ( https://besacenter.org/ )
mis motet üldse ol isiis investeerida siin aega ja toimetada kui konto koustutada... ja mul ikka mitmeid selliseid kontakte kelle FB sein ise juba raamatut ja raamatukogu väärt on13 April 2018 01:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: "Vandenõuteooriad" ( https://besacenter.org/ )
Mõned inimesed nii hulluks ja ära lollitatuks atud, et ise oma kontosi lausa sulgema jooksnud ja slelega oma niidid läbilõiganud, mida mittmeingil juhul , mustad jõud ei soovi, et teil oelks, inimkontaktid yle maailma ja nägemaks juhuslikulkt kellegi teise asjaolusi kes vähegi profesionaalselt arusaanud kuidas fb informatsiooni eri versioonide ülevaatmaiseks FB kasutada
Kontosi kaob massiliselt,
viimase aasta jooksul kindlasti üle paari saja on läinud mul kontaktidest, st kadunud inimesed reaalselt mitte unfriendinud, kontot kadunud
seeaasta u 5013 April 2018 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Associated groups
In accordance with the Comniform's 1950 resolution to draw into the peace movement trade unions, women's and youth organisations, scientists, writers and journalists, etc., several Communist mass organisations supported the WPC, for example:
World Federation of Scientific Workers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federation_of_Scientific_Workers (WFSW) is an international federation of scientific associations. It was a Cold War-era Communist front
Christian Peace Conference ] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Peace_Conference
International Federation of Resistance Fighters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Federation_of_Resistance_Fighters
International Institute for Peace https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Institute_for_Peace
International Association of Democratic Lawyers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Association_of_Democratic_Lawyers
International Organization of Journalists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_of_Journalists
International Union of Students https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Union_of_Students
World Federation of Democratic Youth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federation_of_Democratic_Youth
World Federation of Trade Unions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federation_of_Trade_Unions
Women's International Democratic Federation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_International_Democratic_Federation
The WPC has been described as caught in contradictions as "it sought to become a broad world movement while being instrumentalized increasingly to serve foreign policy in the Soviet Union and nominally socialist countries."[31] From the 1950s until the late 1980s it tried to use non-aligned peace organizations to spread the Soviet point of view, alternately wooing and attacking them, either for their pacifism or their refusal to support the Soviet Union. Until the early 1960s there was limited co-operation between such groups and the WPC, but they gradually dissociated themselves as they discovered it was impossible to criticize the Soviet Union at WPC conferences
From the late 1940s to the late 1950s the WPC, with its large budget and high-profile conferences, dominated the peace movement, to the extent that the movement became identified with the Communist cause
However, the public and some Western leaders still tended to regard all peace activists as Communists
The FBI reported to the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence that the WPC-affiliated U.S. Peace Council was one of the organizers of a large 1982 peace protest in New York City, but said that the KGB had not manipulated the American movement "significantly."[35] International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War was said to have had "overlapping membership and similar policies" to the WPC
and the Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs and the Dartmouth Conferences were said to have been used by Soviet delegates to promote Soviet propaganda.
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In the USA, SANE ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_Action ) rejected WPC appeals for co-operation. A final break occurred during the WPC's 1962 World Congress for Peace and Disarmament in Moscow. The WPC had invited non-aligned peace groups, who were permitted to criticize Soviet nuclear testing, but when western activists including the British Committee of 100 tried to demonstrate in Red Square against Soviet weapons and the Communist system, their banners were confiscated and they were threatened with deportation. As a result of this confrontation, 40 non-aligned organizations decided to form a new international body, the International Confederation for Disarmament and Peace, which was not to have Soviet members.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Confederation_for_Disarmament_and_Peace
// siin tuleb arvestada ka Sovieti ettemotlikusest meelega tektiada endavastast konflitki mille kaudu enese välist orgnisatsioone luua mille sees peidus olles kasvada lastada.. et samad asjad isesisvalt muud mood iei tekiks.
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Following the 1991 breakup of the Soviet Union, the WPC lost most of its support, income and staff and dwindled to a small core group.[ Its international conferences now attract only a tenth of the delegates that its Soviet-backed conferences could attract (see below), although it still issues statements couched in similar terms to those of its historic appeals
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Finland
" The WPC first set up its offices in Paris, but was accused by the French government of engaging in "fifth column" activities and was expelled in 1952. It moved to Prague and then in 1954 to Vienna.[48] In 1957 it was banned by the Austrian government. It was invited to Prague but did not move there,[48] had no official HQ but continued to operate in Vienna[5] under cover of the International Institute for Peace.[49] In 1968 it re-assumed its name and moved to Helsinki, ] Finland, where it remained until 1999. In 2000 it re-located to Athens, Greece "
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Its current income is believed to derive mainly from the interest on a $10m payment made by the Soviet Peace Committee in around 1991, although its finances remain shrouded in mystery
https://robertjprince.net/2011/08/01/the-last-of-the-wpc-mohicans-or-ghost-ship-of-lonnrotinkatu-part-3/
//// (On hearing the news that all the personnel files had been destroyed – she was unaware of the fact despite living in Finland – an old WPC colleague now liberated from fear haunting her all these years, commented with relief, `Maybe now I won’t have those awful WPC dreams anymore.’ )
In accordance with the Comniform's 1950 resolution to draw into the peace movement trade unions, women's and youth organisations, scientists, writers and journalists, etc., several Communist mass organisations supported the WPC, for example:
World Federation of Scientific Workers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federation_of_Scientific_Workers (WFSW) is an international federation of scientific associations. It was a Cold War-era Communist front
Christian Peace Conference ] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Peace_Conference
International Federation of Resistance Fighters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Federation_of_Resistance_Fighters
International Institute for Peace https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Institute_for_Peace
International Association of Democratic Lawyers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Association_of_Democratic_Lawyers
International Organization of Journalists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_of_Journalists
International Union of Students https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Union_of_Students
World Federation of Democratic Youth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federation_of_Democratic_Youth
World Federation of Trade Unions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federation_of_Trade_Unions
Women's International Democratic Federation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_International_Democratic_Federation
The WPC has been described as caught in contradictions as "it sought to become a broad world movement while being instrumentalized increasingly to serve foreign policy in the Soviet Union and nominally socialist countries."[31] From the 1950s until the late 1980s it tried to use non-aligned peace organizations to spread the Soviet point of view, alternately wooing and attacking them, either for their pacifism or their refusal to support the Soviet Union. Until the early 1960s there was limited co-operation between such groups and the WPC, but they gradually dissociated themselves as they discovered it was impossible to criticize the Soviet Union at WPC conferences
From the late 1940s to the late 1950s the WPC, with its large budget and high-profile conferences, dominated the peace movement, to the extent that the movement became identified with the Communist cause
However, the public and some Western leaders still tended to regard all peace activists as Communists
The FBI reported to the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence that the WPC-affiliated U.S. Peace Council was one of the organizers of a large 1982 peace protest in New York City, but said that the KGB had not manipulated the American movement "significantly."[35] International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War was said to have had "overlapping membership and similar policies" to the WPC
and the Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs and the Dartmouth Conferences were said to have been used by Soviet delegates to promote Soviet propaganda.
--
In the USA, SANE ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_Action ) rejected WPC appeals for co-operation. A final break occurred during the WPC's 1962 World Congress for Peace and Disarmament in Moscow. The WPC had invited non-aligned peace groups, who were permitted to criticize Soviet nuclear testing, but when western activists including the British Committee of 100 tried to demonstrate in Red Square against Soviet weapons and the Communist system, their banners were confiscated and they were threatened with deportation. As a result of this confrontation, 40 non-aligned organizations decided to form a new international body, the International Confederation for Disarmament and Peace, which was not to have Soviet members.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Confederation_for_Disarmament_and_Peace
// siin tuleb arvestada ka Sovieti ettemotlikusest meelega tektiada endavastast konflitki mille kaudu enese välist orgnisatsioone luua mille sees peidus olles kasvada lastada.. et samad asjad isesisvalt muud mood iei tekiks.
--
Following the 1991 breakup of the Soviet Union, the WPC lost most of its support, income and staff and dwindled to a small core group.[ Its international conferences now attract only a tenth of the delegates that its Soviet-backed conferences could attract (see below), although it still issues statements couched in similar terms to those of its historic appeals
---
Finland
" The WPC first set up its offices in Paris, but was accused by the French government of engaging in "fifth column" activities and was expelled in 1952. It moved to Prague and then in 1954 to Vienna.[48] In 1957 it was banned by the Austrian government. It was invited to Prague but did not move there,[48] had no official HQ but continued to operate in Vienna[5] under cover of the International Institute for Peace.[49] In 1968 it re-assumed its name and moved to Helsinki, ] Finland, where it remained until 1999. In 2000 it re-located to Athens, Greece "
--
Its current income is believed to derive mainly from the interest on a $10m payment made by the Soviet Peace Committee in around 1991, although its finances remain shrouded in mystery
https://robertjprince.net/2011/08/01/the-last-of-the-wpc-mohicans-or-ghost-ship-of-lonnrotinkatu-part-3/
//// (On hearing the news that all the personnel files had been destroyed – she was unaware of the fact despite living in Finland – an old WPC colleague now liberated from fear haunting her all these years, commented with relief, `Maybe now I won’t have those awful WPC dreams anymore.’ )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federation_of_Scientific_Workers
13 April 2018 00:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Peace_Council
The World Peace Council (WPC) is an international organization that advocates universal disarmament, sovereignty and independence and peaceful co-existence, and campaigns against imperialism, weapons of mass destruction and all forms of discrimination. It was founded in 1950, emerging from the policy of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union to promote peace campaigns around the world in order to oppose "warmongering" by the United States. Its first president was the French physicist and activist Frédéric Joliot-Curie. It was based in Helsinki, Finland from 1968 to 1999 and since in Athens, Greece.
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In August 1948 through the initiative of the Communist Information Bureau (Cominform) a "World Congress of Intellectuals for Peace" was held in Wroclaw, Poland.[1] This gathering established a permanent organisation called the International Liaison Committee of Intellectuals for Peace—a group which joined with another international Communist organisation, the Women's International Democratic Federation to convene a second international conclave in Paris in April 1949, a meeting designated the World Congress of Partisans for Peace (Congrès Mondiale des Partisans de la Paix).[1] Some 2,000 delegates from 75 countries were in attendance at this foundation gathering in the French capital.[1]
A new permanent organization emerged from the April 1949 conclave, the World Committee of Partisans for Peace.[1] At a Second World Congress held in Warsaw in November 1950, this group adopted the new name World Peace Council (WPC).[1] The origins of the WPC lay in the Cominform's doctrine that the world was divided between "peace-loving" progressive forces led by the Soviet Union and "warmongering" capitalist countries led by the United States, declaring that peace "should now become the pivot of the entire activity of the Communist Parties", and most western Communist parties followed this policy.[2]
In 1950, Cominform adopted the report of Mikhail Suslov, a senior Soviet official, praising the Partisans for Peace and resolving that, "The Communist and Workers' Parties must utilize all means of struggle to secure a stable and lasting peace, subordinating their entire activity to this" and that "Particular attention should be devoted to drawing into the peace movement trade unions, women's, youth, cooperative, sport, cultural, education, religious and other organizations, and also scientists, writers, journalists, cultural workers, parliamentary and other political and public leaders who act in defense of peace and against war."
The World Peace Council (WPC) is an international organization that advocates universal disarmament, sovereignty and independence and peaceful co-existence, and campaigns against imperialism, weapons of mass destruction and all forms of discrimination. It was founded in 1950, emerging from the policy of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union to promote peace campaigns around the world in order to oppose "warmongering" by the United States. Its first president was the French physicist and activist Frédéric Joliot-Curie. It was based in Helsinki, Finland from 1968 to 1999 and since in Athens, Greece.
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In August 1948 through the initiative of the Communist Information Bureau (Cominform) a "World Congress of Intellectuals for Peace" was held in Wroclaw, Poland.[1] This gathering established a permanent organisation called the International Liaison Committee of Intellectuals for Peace—a group which joined with another international Communist organisation, the Women's International Democratic Federation to convene a second international conclave in Paris in April 1949, a meeting designated the World Congress of Partisans for Peace (Congrès Mondiale des Partisans de la Paix).[1] Some 2,000 delegates from 75 countries were in attendance at this foundation gathering in the French capital.[1]
A new permanent organization emerged from the April 1949 conclave, the World Committee of Partisans for Peace.[1] At a Second World Congress held in Warsaw in November 1950, this group adopted the new name World Peace Council (WPC).[1] The origins of the WPC lay in the Cominform's doctrine that the world was divided between "peace-loving" progressive forces led by the Soviet Union and "warmongering" capitalist countries led by the United States, declaring that peace "should now become the pivot of the entire activity of the Communist Parties", and most western Communist parties followed this policy.[2]
In 1950, Cominform adopted the report of Mikhail Suslov, a senior Soviet official, praising the Partisans for Peace and resolving that, "The Communist and Workers' Parties must utilize all means of struggle to secure a stable and lasting peace, subordinating their entire activity to this" and that "Particular attention should be devoted to drawing into the peace movement trade unions, women's, youth, cooperative, sport, cultural, education, religious and other organizations, and also scientists, writers, journalists, cultural workers, parliamentary and other political and public leaders who act in defense of peace and against war."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Peace_Council
13 April 2018 00:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
According to Stanislav Lunev, GRU alone spent more than $1 billion for the peace movements against the Vietnam War, which was a "hugely successful campaign and well worth the cost".[3] Lunev claimed that "the GRU and the KGB helped to fund just about every antiwar movement and organization in America and abroad".[3]
The World Peace Council was established on the orders of the Communist Party of the USSR in the late 1940s and for over forty years carried out campaigns against western, mainly American, military action. Many organisations controlled or influenced by Communists affiliated themselves with it. According to Oleg Kalugin,
... the Soviet intelligence [was] really unparalleled. ... The [KGB] programs -- which would run all sorts of congresses, peace congresses, youth congresses, festivals, women's movements, trade union movements, campaigns against U.S. missiles in Europe, campaigns against neutron weapons, allegations that AIDS ... was invented by the CIA ... all sorts of forgeries and faked material -- [were] targeted at politicians, the academic community, at [the] public at large. ...[2]
It has been widely claimed that the Soviet Union organised and financed western peace movements; for example, ex-KGB agent Sergei Tretyakov claimed that in the early 1980s the KGB wanted to prevent the United States from deploying nuclear missiles and that they used the Soviet Peace Committee to organize and finance peace demonstrations in western Europe.[4][5][6] (Western intelligence agencies, however, have found no evidence of this.)
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/episodes/21/interviews/kalugin/
The World Peace Council was established on the orders of the Communist Party of the USSR in the late 1940s and for over forty years carried out campaigns against western, mainly American, military action. Many organisations controlled or influenced by Communists affiliated themselves with it. According to Oleg Kalugin,
... the Soviet intelligence [was] really unparalleled. ... The [KGB] programs -- which would run all sorts of congresses, peace congresses, youth congresses, festivals, women's movements, trade union movements, campaigns against U.S. missiles in Europe, campaigns against neutron weapons, allegations that AIDS ... was invented by the CIA ... all sorts of forgeries and faked material -- [were] targeted at politicians, the academic community, at [the] public at large. ...[2]
It has been widely claimed that the Soviet Union organised and financed western peace movements; for example, ex-KGB agent Sergei Tretyakov claimed that in the early 1980s the KGB wanted to prevent the United States from deploying nuclear missiles and that they used the Soviet Peace Committee to organize and finance peace demonstrations in western Europe.[4][5][6] (Western intelligence agencies, however, have found no evidence of this.)
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/episodes/21/interviews/kalugin/
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/episodes/21/interviews/kalugin/
13 April 2018 00:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Olulisem, Kommunistid kes praegu valitsuses ajavad seda privaatusse teemat, keelavad sellie info kogumise ka peadselt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_measures
Active measures (Russian: активные мероприятия) is a Soviet term for the actions of political warfare conducted by the Soviet and Russian security services (Cheka, OGPU, NKVD, KGB, FSB) to influence the course of world events, in addition to collecting intelligence and producing "politically correct" assessment of it.[1] Active measures range "from media manipulations to special actions involving various degrees of violence". They were used both abroad and domestically. They included disinformation, propaganda, counterfeiting official documents, assassinations, and political repression, such as penetration into churches, and persecution of political dissidents
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Active measures included the establishment and support of international front organizations (e.g. the World Peace Council); foreign communist, socialist and opposition parties; wars of national liberation in the Third World; and underground, revolutionary, insurgency, criminal, and terrorist groups.[1] The intelligence agencies of Eastern Bloc states also contributed to the program, providing operatives and intelligence for assassinations and other types of covert operations.[1]
Retired KGB Maj. Gen. Oleg Kalugin described active measures as "the heart and soul of Soviet intelligence": "Not intelligence collection, but subversion: active measures to weaken the West, to drive wedges in the Western community alliances of all sorts, particularly NATO, to sow discord among allies, to weaken the United States in the eyes of the people of Europe, Asia, Africa, Latin America, and thus to prepare ground in case the war really occurs."[2]
Active measures was a system of special courses taught in the Andropov Institute of the KGB situated at SVR headquarters in Yasenevo, near Moscow. The head of the "active measures department" was Yuri Modin, former controller of the Cambridge Five spy ring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Five
(The Cambridge Spy Ring was a ring of spies in the United Kingdom, who passed information to the Soviet Union during World War II and was active at least into the early 1950s.)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_measures
Active measures (Russian: активные мероприятия) is a Soviet term for the actions of political warfare conducted by the Soviet and Russian security services (Cheka, OGPU, NKVD, KGB, FSB) to influence the course of world events, in addition to collecting intelligence and producing "politically correct" assessment of it.[1] Active measures range "from media manipulations to special actions involving various degrees of violence". They were used both abroad and domestically. They included disinformation, propaganda, counterfeiting official documents, assassinations, and political repression, such as penetration into churches, and persecution of political dissidents
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Active measures included the establishment and support of international front organizations (e.g. the World Peace Council); foreign communist, socialist and opposition parties; wars of national liberation in the Third World; and underground, revolutionary, insurgency, criminal, and terrorist groups.[1] The intelligence agencies of Eastern Bloc states also contributed to the program, providing operatives and intelligence for assassinations and other types of covert operations.[1]
Retired KGB Maj. Gen. Oleg Kalugin described active measures as "the heart and soul of Soviet intelligence": "Not intelligence collection, but subversion: active measures to weaken the West, to drive wedges in the Western community alliances of all sorts, particularly NATO, to sow discord among allies, to weaken the United States in the eyes of the people of Europe, Asia, Africa, Latin America, and thus to prepare ground in case the war really occurs."[2]
Active measures was a system of special courses taught in the Andropov Institute of the KGB situated at SVR headquarters in Yasenevo, near Moscow. The head of the "active measures department" was Yuri Modin, former controller of the Cambridge Five spy ring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Five
(The Cambridge Spy Ring was a ring of spies in the United Kingdom, who passed information to the Soviet Union during World War II and was active at least into the early 1950s.)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_measures
13 April 2018 00:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Liberalism // kunagi ammu nende org linkidest thetud väga põhjalikum postitus, kuid eks osa infot tuleb ja läheb..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_International
http://cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/l/Liberalism.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism_(international_relations)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_socialism
vs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idealism_in_international_relations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_liberalism
National Liberal Club (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberal_Club). It was founded in Oxford in 1947, and has become the pre-eminent network for liberal parties and for the strengthening of liberalism around the world. www.liberal-international.org
Region served: Worldwide
Membership: 104
Liberal International has two main publications:
LI-news, a weekly dossier of news items that are relevant to the organisation's member parties or cooperating organisations;
Liberal Matters, a magazine published several times a year highlighting a particular liberal issue.
Fifty years on, in 1997, Liberal International returned to Oxford and issued a supplement to the original manifesto, The Liberal Agenda for the 21st century, describing Liberal policies in greater detail
// vaadata nende org. algeid ja ajaloolisi seotud inimeste tauste
Cooperating organizations:
Africa Liberal Network
Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe in the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (ALDE-PACE)
Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe Party (ALDE Party)
Council of Asian Liberals and Democrats
Friedrich Naumann Stiftung
Fondazione Libro Aperto
Fondazione Luigi Einaudi
Swedish International Liberal Centre
Arab Alliance for Freedom and Democracy (AAFD) (until 2011 Network of Arab Liberals, NAL)
Neue Zürcher Zeitung
National Democratic Institute, an organization with ties to the Democratic Party (United States), though government-sponsored through the National Endowment for Democracy
Red Liberal de América Latina
The International is also in a loose association with the following organisations:
Centre Jean Gol (Belgium)
Friedrich Naumann Foundation (Germany)
Fondazione Critica Liberale (Italy)
Teldersstichting (Netherlands)
The Bertil Ohlin Institute (Sweden)
CentreForum (UK)
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Africa Liberal Network (ALN)
Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe (ALDE)
Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe Party (ALDEP)
Arab Liberal Federation (ALF)
Council of Asian Liberals and Democrats (CALD)
European Democratic Party (EDP)
European Liberal Youth (LYMEC)
European Party for Individual Liberty (EPIL)
International Alliance of Libertarian Parties (IALP)
International Federation of Liberal Youth (IFLRY)
Liberal International
Liberal Network for Latin America (RELIAL)
Liberal South East
European Network (LIBSEEN)
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praegu poel aega siia panna kuid suures osas pea kõik vanad org on jätkatud uute ja pea enamus praegused liberal ja demok asjade juured on tugevalt vandes normaalsusvastastes tulnarkontorlitud ja suunatud orgsides
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_International
http://cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/l/Liberalism.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism_(international_relations)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_socialism
vs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idealism_in_international_relations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_liberalism
National Liberal Club (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberal_Club). It was founded in Oxford in 1947, and has become the pre-eminent network for liberal parties and for the strengthening of liberalism around the world. www.liberal-international.org
Region served: Worldwide
Membership: 104
Liberal International has two main publications:
LI-news, a weekly dossier of news items that are relevant to the organisation's member parties or cooperating organisations;
Liberal Matters, a magazine published several times a year highlighting a particular liberal issue.
Fifty years on, in 1997, Liberal International returned to Oxford and issued a supplement to the original manifesto, The Liberal Agenda for the 21st century, describing Liberal policies in greater detail
// vaadata nende org. algeid ja ajaloolisi seotud inimeste tauste
Cooperating organizations:
Africa Liberal Network
Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe in the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (ALDE-PACE)
Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe Party (ALDE Party)
Council of Asian Liberals and Democrats
Friedrich Naumann Stiftung
Fondazione Libro Aperto
Fondazione Luigi Einaudi
Swedish International Liberal Centre
Arab Alliance for Freedom and Democracy (AAFD) (until 2011 Network of Arab Liberals, NAL)
Neue Zürcher Zeitung
National Democratic Institute, an organization with ties to the Democratic Party (United States), though government-sponsored through the National Endowment for Democracy
Red Liberal de América Latina
The International is also in a loose association with the following organisations:
Centre Jean Gol (Belgium)
Friedrich Naumann Foundation (Germany)
Fondazione Critica Liberale (Italy)
Teldersstichting (Netherlands)
The Bertil Ohlin Institute (Sweden)
CentreForum (UK)
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Africa Liberal Network (ALN)
Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe (ALDE)
Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe Party (ALDEP)
Arab Liberal Federation (ALF)
Council of Asian Liberals and Democrats (CALD)
European Democratic Party (EDP)
European Liberal Youth (LYMEC)
European Party for Individual Liberty (EPIL)
International Alliance of Libertarian Parties (IALP)
International Federation of Liberal Youth (IFLRY)
Liberal International
Liberal Network for Latin America (RELIAL)
Liberal South East
European Network (LIBSEEN)
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praegu poel aega siia panna kuid suures osas pea kõik vanad org on jätkatud uute ja pea enamus praegused liberal ja demok asjade juured on tugevalt vandes normaalsusvastastes tulnarkontorlitud ja suunatud orgsides
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_International
13 April 2018 00:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// teine dinesiooniline paralel olulisus
// nendest ka täis arhiivi vaja analyysiks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problems_of_Peace_and_Socialism
http://www.iran-archive.com/hezbe_toode/masaele_beinalmelali.html (Persian)
Problems of Peace and Socialism (Russian: Проблемы мира и социализма), also commonly known as World Marxist Review (WMR), the name of its English-language edition, was a theoretical journal containing jointly-produced content by Communist and workers parties from around the world. The monthly magazine was launched in September 1958 and was terminated in June 1990
being read in some 145 countries
Language 41 languages
Problems of Peace and Socialism was also an important conduit of information between Communist parties about the ongoing activities of various front groups
of the international movement, including:
the World Peace Council (WPC), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Peace_Council
the World Federation of Trade Unions (WFTU), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federation_of_Trade_Unions
the Women's International Democratic Federation (WIDF), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_International_Democratic_Federation
the World Federation of Democratic Youth (WFDY), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federation_of_Democratic_Youth
the International Union of Students (IUS), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Union_of_Students
the Afro-Asian People's Solidarity Organisation (AAPSO), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Asian_People%27s_Solidarity_Organisation
the International Association of Democratic Lawyers (IADL), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Association_of_Democratic_Lawyers
the World Federation of Scientific Workers (WFSW), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federation_of_Scientific_Workers
and the International Organization of Journalists (IOJ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_of_Journalists
Towards the end of 1989, there were sharp changes in the editorial policy at WMR. Articles written by critics of the traditional Soviet system such as Zbigniew Brzezinski, Alexander Dubček, Milovan Đilas and Andrei D. Sakharov began to appear in the magazine's pages as a foil for discussion and debate
Following the magazine's closure the Roman Catholic church reclaimed the building where the WMR editorial office had been located.
The last editor, Molnar, tried unsuccessfully to negotiate remodeling the Peace and Socialism International Publishers venture into a broader leftwing publishing house. The company was to be renamed "Patria."
// järelikult ülemistel polnud seda vaja, oli vaja jätta mulje, et jätk on lõppenud
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// nendest ka täis arhiivi vaja analyysiks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problems_of_Peace_and_Socialism
http://www.iran-archive.com/hezbe_toode/masaele_beinalmelali.html (Persian)
Problems of Peace and Socialism (Russian: Проблемы мира и социализма), also commonly known as World Marxist Review (WMR), the name of its English-language edition, was a theoretical journal containing jointly-produced content by Communist and workers parties from around the world. The monthly magazine was launched in September 1958 and was terminated in June 1990
being read in some 145 countries
Language 41 languages
Problems of Peace and Socialism was also an important conduit of information between Communist parties about the ongoing activities of various front groups
of the international movement, including:
the World Peace Council (WPC), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Peace_Council
the World Federation of Trade Unions (WFTU), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federation_of_Trade_Unions
the Women's International Democratic Federation (WIDF), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_International_Democratic_Federation
the World Federation of Democratic Youth (WFDY), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federation_of_Democratic_Youth
the International Union of Students (IUS), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Union_of_Students
the Afro-Asian People's Solidarity Organisation (AAPSO), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Asian_People%27s_Solidarity_Organisation
the International Association of Democratic Lawyers (IADL), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Association_of_Democratic_Lawyers
the World Federation of Scientific Workers (WFSW), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federation_of_Scientific_Workers
and the International Organization of Journalists (IOJ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_of_Journalists
Towards the end of 1989, there were sharp changes in the editorial policy at WMR. Articles written by critics of the traditional Soviet system such as Zbigniew Brzezinski, Alexander Dubček, Milovan Đilas and Andrei D. Sakharov began to appear in the magazine's pages as a foil for discussion and debate
Following the magazine's closure the Roman Catholic church reclaimed the building where the WMR editorial office had been located.
The last editor, Molnar, tried unsuccessfully to negotiate remodeling the Peace and Socialism International Publishers venture into a broader leftwing publishing house. The company was to be renamed "Patria."
// järelikult ülemistel polnud seda vaja, oli vaja jätta mulje, et jätk on lõppenud
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problems_of_Peace_and_Socialism
13 April 2018 00:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Communist Information Bureau"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cominform
Founded October 5, 1947
It was the first official forum of the international communist movement since the dissolution of the Comintern, and confirmed the new realities after World War II, including the creation of an Eastern Bloc.
The intended purpose of Cominform was to coordinate actions between Communist parties under Soviet direction. It was not intended to be a replacement or successor to the Comintern. The Cominform was not a world Communist party, it did not have subordinates or power, other than its publication. It had its own newspaper, For Lasting Peace, for People's Democracy! It limited itself to one goal: "to organize an exchange of experience, and where necessary to coordinate the activity of the Communist parties, on the basis of mutual agreement."[2] In other aspects, Cominform was also used to repel anti-communist expansion.[3] The French and Italian parties were tasked specifically with the obstruction of the implementation of the Marshall Plan and the Truman Doctrine.[4] Cominform divided the world into imperialist and anti-imperialist
Headquarters Belgrade, Yugoslavia (1947–1948) / Bucharest, Romania (1948–1956)
Newspaper For Lasting Peace, for People's Democracy!
Ideology: Communism / Marxism–Leninism / Stalinism
Party of Labour of Albania
Bulgarian Communist Party
Communist Party of Czechoslovakia
French Communist Party
Socialist Unity Party of Germany
Hungarian Communist Party, then Hungarian Working People's Party
Italian Communist Party
Communist Party of the Netherlands
Polish Workers' Party, then Polish United Workers' Party
Romanian Workers' Party
Communist Party of the Soviet Union
Communist Party of Yugoslavia, until its expulsion in 1948.
Communist Party of the Free Territory of Trieste, until Yugoslavia's expulsion of 1948.
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The Council for Mutual Economic Assistance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comecon
was an economic organization from 1949 to 1991 under the leadership of the Soviet Union that comprised the countries of the Eastern Bloc along with a number of communist states elsewhere in the world
Uurida tausta inimesi ajalug:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_for_Economic_Co-operation_and_Development
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Independent_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUAM_Organization_for_Democracy_and_Economic_Development
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Economic_Union
Although not formally part of the organization's hierarchy, the Conference of First Secretaries of Communist and Workers' Parties and of the Heads of Government of the Comecon Member Countries was Comecon's most important organ. These party and government leaders gathered for conference meetings regularly to discuss topics of mutual interest. Because of the rank of conference participants, their decisions had considerable influence on the actions taken by Comecon and its organs.
The official hierarchy of Comecon consisted of the Session of the Council for Mutual Economic Assistance, the Executive Committee of the Council, the Secretariat of the Council, four council committees, twenty-four standing commissions, six interstate conferences, two scientific institutes, and several associated organizations
The Session of the Council for Mutual Economic Assistance, officially the highest Comecon organ, examined fundamental problems of socialist economic integration and directed the activities of the Secretariat and other subordinate organizations.
The highest executive organ in Comecon, the Executive Committee, was entrusted with elaborating policy recommendations and supervising their implementation between sessions.
There were four council committees: Council Committee for Cooperation in Planning, Council Committee for Scientific and Technical Cooperation, Council Committee for Cooperation in Material and Technical Supply, and Council Committee for Cooperation in Machine Building.
Several affiliated agencies, having a variety of relationships with Comecon, existed outside the official Comecon hierarchy. They served to develop "direct links between appropriate bodies and organizations of Comecon member countries.:
International Bank for Economic Cooperation
International Investment Bank
Intermetall
// nu oleks investment Bank vahelt tõmmatud, mitte koostööd teinud, mis siis sellest oleks saanud ?
Although Comecon was loosely referred to as the "European Economic Community (EEC) of (Central and) Eastern Europe," important contrasts existed between the two organizations. Both organizations administered economic integration; however, their economic structure, size, balance, and influence differed:
In the 1980s, the EEC incorporated the 270 million people in Europe into economic association through intergovernmental agreements aimed at maximizing profits and economic efficiency on a national and international scale. The EEC was a supranational body that could adopt decisions (such as removing tariffs) and enforce them. Activity by members was based on initiative and enterprise from below (on the individual or enterprise level) and was strongly influenced by market forces.[3]
Comecon joined together 450 million people in 10 countries and on 3 continents. The level of industrialization from country to country differed greatly: the organization linked two underdeveloped countries – Mongolia, and Vietnam – with some highly industrialized states. Likewise, a large national income difference existed between European and non-European members. The physical size, military power, and political and economic resource base of the Soviet Union made it the dominant member.
In trade among Comecon members, the Soviet Union usually provided raw materials, and Central and East European countries provided finished equipment and machinery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cominform
Founded October 5, 1947
It was the first official forum of the international communist movement since the dissolution of the Comintern, and confirmed the new realities after World War II, including the creation of an Eastern Bloc.
The intended purpose of Cominform was to coordinate actions between Communist parties under Soviet direction. It was not intended to be a replacement or successor to the Comintern. The Cominform was not a world Communist party, it did not have subordinates or power, other than its publication. It had its own newspaper, For Lasting Peace, for People's Democracy! It limited itself to one goal: "to organize an exchange of experience, and where necessary to coordinate the activity of the Communist parties, on the basis of mutual agreement."[2] In other aspects, Cominform was also used to repel anti-communist expansion.[3] The French and Italian parties were tasked specifically with the obstruction of the implementation of the Marshall Plan and the Truman Doctrine.[4] Cominform divided the world into imperialist and anti-imperialist
Headquarters Belgrade, Yugoslavia (1947–1948) / Bucharest, Romania (1948–1956)
Newspaper For Lasting Peace, for People's Democracy!
Ideology: Communism / Marxism–Leninism / Stalinism
Party of Labour of Albania
Bulgarian Communist Party
Communist Party of Czechoslovakia
French Communist Party
Socialist Unity Party of Germany
Hungarian Communist Party, then Hungarian Working People's Party
Italian Communist Party
Communist Party of the Netherlands
Polish Workers' Party, then Polish United Workers' Party
Romanian Workers' Party
Communist Party of the Soviet Union
Communist Party of Yugoslavia, until its expulsion in 1948.
Communist Party of the Free Territory of Trieste, until Yugoslavia's expulsion of 1948.
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The Council for Mutual Economic Assistance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comecon
was an economic organization from 1949 to 1991 under the leadership of the Soviet Union that comprised the countries of the Eastern Bloc along with a number of communist states elsewhere in the world
Uurida tausta inimesi ajalug:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_for_Economic_Co-operation_and_Development
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Independent_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUAM_Organization_for_Democracy_and_Economic_Development
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Economic_Union
Although not formally part of the organization's hierarchy, the Conference of First Secretaries of Communist and Workers' Parties and of the Heads of Government of the Comecon Member Countries was Comecon's most important organ. These party and government leaders gathered for conference meetings regularly to discuss topics of mutual interest. Because of the rank of conference participants, their decisions had considerable influence on the actions taken by Comecon and its organs.
The official hierarchy of Comecon consisted of the Session of the Council for Mutual Economic Assistance, the Executive Committee of the Council, the Secretariat of the Council, four council committees, twenty-four standing commissions, six interstate conferences, two scientific institutes, and several associated organizations
The Session of the Council for Mutual Economic Assistance, officially the highest Comecon organ, examined fundamental problems of socialist economic integration and directed the activities of the Secretariat and other subordinate organizations.
The highest executive organ in Comecon, the Executive Committee, was entrusted with elaborating policy recommendations and supervising their implementation between sessions.
There were four council committees: Council Committee for Cooperation in Planning, Council Committee for Scientific and Technical Cooperation, Council Committee for Cooperation in Material and Technical Supply, and Council Committee for Cooperation in Machine Building.
Several affiliated agencies, having a variety of relationships with Comecon, existed outside the official Comecon hierarchy. They served to develop "direct links between appropriate bodies and organizations of Comecon member countries.:
International Bank for Economic Cooperation
International Investment Bank
Intermetall
// nu oleks investment Bank vahelt tõmmatud, mitte koostööd teinud, mis siis sellest oleks saanud ?
Although Comecon was loosely referred to as the "European Economic Community (EEC) of (Central and) Eastern Europe," important contrasts existed between the two organizations. Both organizations administered economic integration; however, their economic structure, size, balance, and influence differed:
In the 1980s, the EEC incorporated the 270 million people in Europe into economic association through intergovernmental agreements aimed at maximizing profits and economic efficiency on a national and international scale. The EEC was a supranational body that could adopt decisions (such as removing tariffs) and enforce them. Activity by members was based on initiative and enterprise from below (on the individual or enterprise level) and was strongly influenced by market forces.[3]
Comecon joined together 450 million people in 10 countries and on 3 continents. The level of industrialization from country to country differed greatly: the organization linked two underdeveloped countries – Mongolia, and Vietnam – with some highly industrialized states. Likewise, a large national income difference existed between European and non-European members. The physical size, military power, and political and economic resource base of the Soviet Union made it the dominant member.
In trade among Comecon members, the Soviet Union usually provided raw materials, and Central and East European countries provided finished equipment and machinery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cominform
12 April 2018 23:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
5 races.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Nations
The official languages of the League of Nations were French, English, and Spanish. The League rejected adopting Esperanto as its working language. China and Japan wanted Esperanto but France was strongly opposed.
In 1939, a semi-official emblem for the League of Nations emerged: two five-pointed stars within a blue pentagon. They symbolised the Earth's five continents and five "races". A bow at the top displayed the English name ("League of Nations"), while another at the bottom showed the French ("Société des Nations")
The League oversaw the Permanent Court of International Justice and several other agencies and commissions created to deal with pressing international problems. These included the Disarmament Commission, the International Labour Organisation (ILO), the Mandates Commission, the International Commission on Intellectual Cooperation[76] (precursor to UNESCO), the Permanent Central Opium Board, the Commission for Refugees, and the Slavery Commission.[77] Three of these institutions were transferred to the United Nations after the Second World War: the International Labour Organisation, the Permanent Court of International Justice (as the International Court of Justice), and the Health Organisation[78] (restructured as the World Health Organisation).
The International Labour Organisation was created in 1919 on the basis of Part XIII of the Treaty of Versailles.[81] The ILO, although having the same members as the League and being subject to the budget control of the Assembly, was an autonomous organisation with its own Governing Body, its own General Conference and its own Secretariat. Its constitution differed from that of the League: representation had been accorded not only to governments but also to representatives of employers' and workers' organisations. Albert Thomas was its first director.
A row of more than a dozen children holding wooden looms stretches into the distance.
Child labour in Kamerun in 1919
The ILO successfully restricted the addition of lead to paint,[83] and convinced several countries to adopt an eight-hour work day and forty-eight-hour working week
// Muidgi see mu silmis, see kes kosmosetulnar roboti sarviku jaoks töötav ilo smamoogi tööjõu vahetusega tegeleb, tuleviku meheks sanud..ilo..
The Soviet Union became a member on 18 September 1934,
[101] and was expelled on 14 December 1939[101] for invading Finland.
In expelling the Soviet Union, the League broke its own rule: only 7 of 15 members of the Council voted for expulsion (United Kingdom, France, Belgium, Bolivia, Egypt, South Africa, and the Dominican Republic), short of the majority required by the Covenant. Three of these members had been made Council members the day before the vote (South Africa, Bolivia, and Egypt). This was one of the League's final acts before it practically ceased functioning due to the Second World War
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The League against Imperialism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_against_Imperialism
transnational anti-imperialist organization in the interwar period.
According to Vijay Prashad, the inclusion of the word 'league' in the organization's name was a direct attack on the League of Nations, which perpetuated colonialism through the mandate system
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmerwald_Left
The Zimmerwald Left was a revolutionary minority faction at the Zimmerwald Peace Conference of 1915, headed by Lenin. The Left of the Zimmerwald Congress was made up of eight out of 38 people: Lenin, Zinoviev (Russia), Jānis Bērziņš (Latvia), Karl Radek (Poland), Julian Borchardt (Germany), Fritz Platten (Switzerland), Zeth Höglund and Ture Nerman (Sweden). It was the first step towards forming what later became the Comintern.
example: Zeth Höglund:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Party_(Sweden)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A4nsterpartiet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Sweden_(1924)
become to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party (Membership (2017) 89,010)
Political position Centre-left
European affiliation Party of European Socialists
International affiliation Progressive Alliance
European Parliament group Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Nations
The official languages of the League of Nations were French, English, and Spanish. The League rejected adopting Esperanto as its working language. China and Japan wanted Esperanto but France was strongly opposed.
In 1939, a semi-official emblem for the League of Nations emerged: two five-pointed stars within a blue pentagon. They symbolised the Earth's five continents and five "races". A bow at the top displayed the English name ("League of Nations"), while another at the bottom showed the French ("Société des Nations")
The League oversaw the Permanent Court of International Justice and several other agencies and commissions created to deal with pressing international problems. These included the Disarmament Commission, the International Labour Organisation (ILO), the Mandates Commission, the International Commission on Intellectual Cooperation[76] (precursor to UNESCO), the Permanent Central Opium Board, the Commission for Refugees, and the Slavery Commission.[77] Three of these institutions were transferred to the United Nations after the Second World War: the International Labour Organisation, the Permanent Court of International Justice (as the International Court of Justice), and the Health Organisation[78] (restructured as the World Health Organisation).
The International Labour Organisation was created in 1919 on the basis of Part XIII of the Treaty of Versailles.[81] The ILO, although having the same members as the League and being subject to the budget control of the Assembly, was an autonomous organisation with its own Governing Body, its own General Conference and its own Secretariat. Its constitution differed from that of the League: representation had been accorded not only to governments but also to representatives of employers' and workers' organisations. Albert Thomas was its first director.
A row of more than a dozen children holding wooden looms stretches into the distance.
Child labour in Kamerun in 1919
The ILO successfully restricted the addition of lead to paint,[83] and convinced several countries to adopt an eight-hour work day and forty-eight-hour working week
// Muidgi see mu silmis, see kes kosmosetulnar roboti sarviku jaoks töötav ilo smamoogi tööjõu vahetusega tegeleb, tuleviku meheks sanud..ilo..
The Soviet Union became a member on 18 September 1934,
[101] and was expelled on 14 December 1939[101] for invading Finland.
In expelling the Soviet Union, the League broke its own rule: only 7 of 15 members of the Council voted for expulsion (United Kingdom, France, Belgium, Bolivia, Egypt, South Africa, and the Dominican Republic), short of the majority required by the Covenant. Three of these members had been made Council members the day before the vote (South Africa, Bolivia, and Egypt). This was one of the League's final acts before it practically ceased functioning due to the Second World War
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The League against Imperialism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_against_Imperialism
transnational anti-imperialist organization in the interwar period.
According to Vijay Prashad, the inclusion of the word 'league' in the organization's name was a direct attack on the League of Nations, which perpetuated colonialism through the mandate system
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmerwald_Left
The Zimmerwald Left was a revolutionary minority faction at the Zimmerwald Peace Conference of 1915, headed by Lenin. The Left of the Zimmerwald Congress was made up of eight out of 38 people: Lenin, Zinoviev (Russia), Jānis Bērziņš (Latvia), Karl Radek (Poland), Julian Borchardt (Germany), Fritz Platten (Switzerland), Zeth Höglund and Ture Nerman (Sweden). It was the first step towards forming what later became the Comintern.
example: Zeth Höglund:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Party_(Sweden)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A4nsterpartiet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Sweden_(1924)
become to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party (Membership (2017) 89,010)
Political position Centre-left
European affiliation Party of European Socialists
International affiliation Progressive Alliance
European Parliament group Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Nations
12 April 2018 23:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
History general notes:
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Third International, the Second International and the IWUSP merged to form the Labour and Socialist International (LSI) at a joint congress in Hamburg in May 1923.
In the 1930s, a similar effort was made to create an international between the reformism of the Second and the Stalinism of the Third, as the London Bureau of left-wing socialist parties. Sometimes called the "Three-and-a-Half International", it involved many of the same parties.
The LSI had a history of rivalry with the Communist International (Comintern), with which it competed over the leadership of the international socialist and labour movement. However, unlike the Comintern, the LSI maintained no direct control over the actions its sections, being constituted as a federation of autonomous national parties.
The LSI functioned as a continuation of the Second International.
The Social Democratic Party of Germany was the dominant party within the LSI.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Germany
With the rise of Nazism in Europe, there was increased pressure on the LSI and Comintern to cooperate
Although the communists opposed colonialism, the LSI were generally supportive of colonialism. For example, the participation of the British Independent Labour Party in the communist-sponsored League against Imperialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_against_Imperialism caused a controversy within LSI, and the ILP was asked to break its ties with the League. However, the support of the LSI for colonialism was not complete. Regarding the Rif War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rif_War , the second LSI congress, held in Marseille August 22–27, 1925, adopted a resolution calling for support of the independence of the Rif and urging the League of Nations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Nations to accept the Rif Republic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rif_Republic as a member
After the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War, the LSI and the International Federation of Trade Unions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Federation_of_Trade_Unions launched an 'Aid for Spain' campaign. The LSI/IFTU relief efforts were channelled through the Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (PSOE) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party
and Unión General de Trabajadores (UGT) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uni%C3%B3n_General_de_Trabajadores
((UGT) Founded 1888:
2018: 928.846 members / 97,145 union representatives. / www.ugt.es
The Unión General de Trabajadores (UGT, General Union of Workers) is a major Spanish trade union, historically affiliated with the Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (PSOE). )
The Spanish Socialist Workers' Party : Founded 2 May 1879 (138 years ago)
Political position Centre-left
European Parliament group: Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Alliance_of_Socialists_and_Democrats)
European affiliation Party of European Socialists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_European_Socialists
International affiliation: Progressive Alliance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Alliance Socialist International https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_International
1980 PSOE Anti-NATO billboard. While opposing Spanish membership to NATO when they were on opposition
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Third International, the Second International and the IWUSP merged to form the Labour and Socialist International (LSI) at a joint congress in Hamburg in May 1923.
In the 1930s, a similar effort was made to create an international between the reformism of the Second and the Stalinism of the Third, as the London Bureau of left-wing socialist parties. Sometimes called the "Three-and-a-Half International", it involved many of the same parties.
The LSI had a history of rivalry with the Communist International (Comintern), with which it competed over the leadership of the international socialist and labour movement. However, unlike the Comintern, the LSI maintained no direct control over the actions its sections, being constituted as a federation of autonomous national parties.
The LSI functioned as a continuation of the Second International.
The Social Democratic Party of Germany was the dominant party within the LSI.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Germany
With the rise of Nazism in Europe, there was increased pressure on the LSI and Comintern to cooperate
Although the communists opposed colonialism, the LSI were generally supportive of colonialism. For example, the participation of the British Independent Labour Party in the communist-sponsored League against Imperialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_against_Imperialism caused a controversy within LSI, and the ILP was asked to break its ties with the League. However, the support of the LSI for colonialism was not complete. Regarding the Rif War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rif_War , the second LSI congress, held in Marseille August 22–27, 1925, adopted a resolution calling for support of the independence of the Rif and urging the League of Nations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Nations to accept the Rif Republic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rif_Republic as a member
After the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War, the LSI and the International Federation of Trade Unions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Federation_of_Trade_Unions launched an 'Aid for Spain' campaign. The LSI/IFTU relief efforts were channelled through the Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (PSOE) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Socialist_Workers%27_Party
and Unión General de Trabajadores (UGT) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uni%C3%B3n_General_de_Trabajadores
((UGT) Founded 1888:
2018: 928.846 members / 97,145 union representatives. / www.ugt.es
The Unión General de Trabajadores (UGT, General Union of Workers) is a major Spanish trade union, historically affiliated with the Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (PSOE). )
The Spanish Socialist Workers' Party : Founded 2 May 1879 (138 years ago)
Political position Centre-left
European Parliament group: Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Alliance_of_Socialists_and_Democrats)
European affiliation Party of European Socialists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_European_Socialists
International affiliation: Progressive Alliance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Alliance Socialist International https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_International
1980 PSOE Anti-NATO billboard. While opposing Spanish membership to NATO when they were on opposition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Germany
12 April 2018 23:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Põhipointi ja mõte näidatud siin ja tiesed lsia postid selle toetus jägadeks mille kaudu leiab ülejäänud mõte ja jalad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_International / Comintern
https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Communist_International (lisamärgete idee lagsest kadunud tõdedest)
Succeeded by Communist Information Bureau https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cominform
Preceded by
Second International
Zimmerwald Left
Youth wing: Young Communist International https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Communist_International
(Successor organization (of Cominform Comintern Yoth Wing) : World Federation of Democratic Youth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federation_of_Democratic_Youth )
Formation 10 November 1945; 72 years ago
Founded at London
Headquarters Budapest, Hungary
President Nicolas Papademitriou
General Secretary Jose Maury
Vice President Adnan Mokdad
Vice President Naftali Kambungu
Affiliations ECOSOC (General consultative status in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECOSOC ),(United Nations Education,Scientific and Cultural Organization) (UNESCO / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNESCO )
Website www.wfdy.org
Observers:
Youth for Communist Rebirth In France (Youth of the Pole of Communist Rebirth in France https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_of_Communist_Rebirth_in_France )
Communist Youth Movement (Youth of the New Communist Party of the Netherlands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Communist_Party_of_the_Netherlands )
Communist Youth of Luxemburg (Refounded youth organisation of the Communist Party of Luxembourg), Luxembourg
Revolutionary Communist Youth (Youth organization of the Communist Party), Sweden
_________________
Founded July 14, 1889
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_International
Preceded by International Workingmen's Association https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workingmen%27s_Association
Succeeded by:
Labour and Socialist International https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_and_Socialist_International
International Working Union of Socialist Parties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Working_Union_of_Socialist_Parties
Comintern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_International
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_International / Comintern
https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Communist_International (lisamärgete idee lagsest kadunud tõdedest)
Succeeded by Communist Information Bureau https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cominform
Preceded by
Second International
Zimmerwald Left
Youth wing: Young Communist International https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Communist_International
(Successor organization (of Cominform Comintern Yoth Wing) : World Federation of Democratic Youth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federation_of_Democratic_Youth )
Formation 10 November 1945; 72 years ago
Founded at London
Headquarters Budapest, Hungary
President Nicolas Papademitriou
General Secretary Jose Maury
Vice President Adnan Mokdad
Vice President Naftali Kambungu
Affiliations ECOSOC (General consultative status in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECOSOC ),(United Nations Education,Scientific and Cultural Organization) (UNESCO / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNESCO )
Website www.wfdy.org
Observers:
Youth for Communist Rebirth In France (Youth of the Pole of Communist Rebirth in France https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_of_Communist_Rebirth_in_France )
Communist Youth Movement (Youth of the New Communist Party of the Netherlands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Communist_Party_of_the_Netherlands )
Communist Youth of Luxemburg (Refounded youth organisation of the Communist Party of Luxembourg), Luxembourg
Revolutionary Communist Youth (Youth organization of the Communist Party), Sweden
_________________
Founded July 14, 1889
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_International
Preceded by International Workingmen's Association https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workingmen%27s_Association
Succeeded by:
Labour and Socialist International https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_and_Socialist_International
International Working Union of Socialist Parties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Working_Union_of_Socialist_Parties
Comintern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_International
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_International
12 April 2018 23:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
How liberals lost touch with the ‘left behind’
In ‘The Retreat of Western Liberalism’, Edward Luce charts the path from global financial crisis to populist revolt
https://www.ft.com/content/7421e4e8-33fd-11e7-99bd-13beb0903fa3
//another site that at times have seemed to be turned red
// These publications old time resoneted as respected one but now.. i just can notfeel them... wonder what happened...
Has China Discovered a Better Political System Than Democracy?
The China Model: Meritocracy or 'Red Empire'?
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/10/china-politics-communism-democracy/412663/
https://asiasociety.org/blog/asia/china-model-meritocracy-or-red-empire
// Was it REALLY possible, that Reagen also did not understand that liberals ARE communists spirtiually, this is the same spirits who made them and for this reason.
Reagan Left Liberalism When Communists Infiltrated
https://www.hudson.org/research/12376-newly-released-letters-show-reagan-left-liberalism-when-communists-infiltrated
Ronald Radosh
A recently released exchange of letters between Ronald Reagan and an older Soviet émigré, Lola Kinel Shipman, sheds new light on when and why Reagan shifted from being a supporter of the Popular Front to becoming a strong anti-Communist liberal. After World War II, Reagan wrote:
[I was] blindly and busily joining every organization I could find that would guarantee to save the world.
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UPTAKE workshop: Whither Liberal World Order?
Challenges from Russia, Eurasia, and Beyond
2-3 November 2017 University of Kent
http://www.uptake.ut.ee/cfp-workshop-whither-liberal-world-order-challenges-from-russia-eurasia-and-beyond/
In ‘The Retreat of Western Liberalism’, Edward Luce charts the path from global financial crisis to populist revolt
https://www.ft.com/content/7421e4e8-33fd-11e7-99bd-13beb0903fa3
//another site that at times have seemed to be turned red
// These publications old time resoneted as respected one but now.. i just can notfeel them... wonder what happened...
Has China Discovered a Better Political System Than Democracy?
The China Model: Meritocracy or 'Red Empire'?
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/10/china-politics-communism-democracy/412663/
https://asiasociety.org/blog/asia/china-model-meritocracy-or-red-empire
// Was it REALLY possible, that Reagen also did not understand that liberals ARE communists spirtiually, this is the same spirits who made them and for this reason.
Reagan Left Liberalism When Communists Infiltrated
https://www.hudson.org/research/12376-newly-released-letters-show-reagan-left-liberalism-when-communists-infiltrated
Ronald Radosh
A recently released exchange of letters between Ronald Reagan and an older Soviet émigré, Lola Kinel Shipman, sheds new light on when and why Reagan shifted from being a supporter of the Popular Front to becoming a strong anti-Communist liberal. After World War II, Reagan wrote:
[I was] blindly and busily joining every organization I could find that would guarantee to save the world.
-----------
UPTAKE workshop: Whither Liberal World Order?
Challenges from Russia, Eurasia, and Beyond
2-3 November 2017 University of Kent
http://www.uptake.ut.ee/cfp-workshop-whither-liberal-world-order-challenges-from-russia-eurasia-and-beyond/
https://www.ft.com/content/7421e4e8-33fd-11e7-99bd-13beb0903fa3
12 April 2018 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Only Communism can save liberal democracy
(Slavoj Zizek is the International Director of the Birkbeck Institute for the Humanities, University of London, and one of the world's most influential public intellectuals.)
http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2011/10/03/3331164.htm
What’s Left of Communism
A hundred years after the Russian Revolution, can a phoenix rise from the ash heap of history?
(David Priestland, a professor of modern history at Oxford University, is the author of “The Red Flag: A History of Communism.”
This is the first in a series of essays about the legacy and history of Communism, 100 years after the Russian Revolution.)
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/24/opinion/sunday/whats-left-of-communism.html
Liberal Internationalism: Peace, War and Democracy (Liberal Imperialism / Liberal Pacifism)
( Michael W. Doyle's Ways of War and Peace. Prof at Columbia University in the School of International and Public Affairs and Columbia Law School. Secretary-General and Special Adviser to United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan.)
https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/themes/peace/doyle/
//like they ewver was opponents
LIBERALS AND COMMUNISTS JOIN FORCES
RIA Novosti political commentator Yuri Filippov
https://sputniknews.com/analysis/2004111139773080/
The STrange DeaTh of The LiberaL ConSenSuS
Ivan Krastev is chairman of the Centre for Liberal Strategies in Sofia,
Bulgaria, and editor-in-chief of the Bulgarian edition of
Foreign Policy
https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/sites/default/files/Krastev-18-4.pdf
// just to see what wording is to used for 2018 generation
Revisiting Marx and Liberalism
Edward Martin is Professor of Public Policy and Administration, Graduate Center for Public Policy and Administration at California State University, // Mateo Pimentel lives on the Mexican-US border (www.guerrillaprose.info.)
https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/04/08/revisiting-marx-and-liberalism/
Fall of Communism in Eastern Europe, 1989
https://history.state.gov/milestones/1989-1992/fall-of-communism
(“Milestones in the History of U.S. Foreign Relations” has been retired and is no longer maintained. For more information, please see the full notice. https://history.state.gov/milestones, Notice posted on May 9, 2017. )
//need to update the USA understanding who took powers and what was their backround, from Ortodox view.
//cunical maybe?
China and Liberal Values in International Relations
Netherland institution of Internatinal Relations
https://www.clingendael.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/China_and_Liberal_Values_in_International_Relations.pdf
(Slavoj Zizek is the International Director of the Birkbeck Institute for the Humanities, University of London, and one of the world's most influential public intellectuals.)
http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2011/10/03/3331164.htm
What’s Left of Communism
A hundred years after the Russian Revolution, can a phoenix rise from the ash heap of history?
(David Priestland, a professor of modern history at Oxford University, is the author of “The Red Flag: A History of Communism.”
This is the first in a series of essays about the legacy and history of Communism, 100 years after the Russian Revolution.)
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/24/opinion/sunday/whats-left-of-communism.html
Liberal Internationalism: Peace, War and Democracy (Liberal Imperialism / Liberal Pacifism)
( Michael W. Doyle's Ways of War and Peace. Prof at Columbia University in the School of International and Public Affairs and Columbia Law School. Secretary-General and Special Adviser to United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan.)
https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/themes/peace/doyle/
//like they ewver was opponents
LIBERALS AND COMMUNISTS JOIN FORCES
RIA Novosti political commentator Yuri Filippov
https://sputniknews.com/analysis/2004111139773080/
The STrange DeaTh of The LiberaL ConSenSuS
Ivan Krastev is chairman of the Centre for Liberal Strategies in Sofia,
Bulgaria, and editor-in-chief of the Bulgarian edition of
Foreign Policy
https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/sites/default/files/Krastev-18-4.pdf
// just to see what wording is to used for 2018 generation
Revisiting Marx and Liberalism
Edward Martin is Professor of Public Policy and Administration, Graduate Center for Public Policy and Administration at California State University, // Mateo Pimentel lives on the Mexican-US border (www.guerrillaprose.info.)
https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/04/08/revisiting-marx-and-liberalism/
Fall of Communism in Eastern Europe, 1989
https://history.state.gov/milestones/1989-1992/fall-of-communism
(“Milestones in the History of U.S. Foreign Relations” has been retired and is no longer maintained. For more information, please see the full notice. https://history.state.gov/milestones, Notice posted on May 9, 2017. )
//need to update the USA understanding who took powers and what was their backround, from Ortodox view.
//cunical maybe?
China and Liberal Values in International Relations
Netherland institution of Internatinal Relations
https://www.clingendael.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/China_and_Liberal_Values_in_International_Relations.pdf
http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2011/10/03/3331164.htm
12 April 2018 23:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
a bit more roman education site:
" https://www.the-romans.co.uk/satire.htm
aboiut Marcus Valerius Martialis they write:
"" Initially Martial scraped a living by writing verses for any occasion, even on the labels for gifts which guests took away from parties. Ultimately he published several books of verse, and ended up owning a farm in the country as well as a house in Rome. He was a hack, a parasite, and, when it suited his interests, as it did when writing about Domitian, an unctuous flatterer. "
..well if He would be able to answer You about it..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial
" https://www.the-romans.co.uk/satire.htm
aboiut Marcus Valerius Martialis they write:
"" Initially Martial scraped a living by writing verses for any occasion, even on the labels for gifts which guests took away from parties. Ultimately he published several books of verse, and ended up owning a farm in the country as well as a house in Rome. He was a hack, a parasite, and, when it suited his interests, as it did when writing about Domitian, an unctuous flatterer. "
..well if He would be able to answer You about it..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial
https://www.the-romans.co.uk/satire.htm
12 April 2018 19:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
from Spartacus education site..
http://spartacus-educational.com/RUSnazipact.htm
http://spartacus-educational.com/author.htm
.:.
http://spartacus-educational.com/ROMjuvenal.htm
Only few lines about him, including:
" As Juvenal was a satirist, it is usually assumed that he tended to exaggerate in order to make people laugh. Therefore, as historical evidence, Juvenal's poetry has to be used with caution."
well.. roman education
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about first site atuthor
...gott a look the Nomans invasin part .. and look what is hes color.. seems ordinary establishment word enforcer to stay i safe line..
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" Over the last thirty years I have written several history books including Gandhi (1987), The Vietnam War (1988), Race Relations in the United States (1988), Slavery: An Illustrated History of Black Resistance (1988), Hitler (1988), Stalin (1987), The Roman Empire (1991), Making of the United Kingdom (1992), Expansion, Trade and Industry (1992), The Medieval Village (1996), The Norman Invasion (1996), etc.
In September, 1997 I established the Spartacus Educational website and over the next six years I produced online material for the Daily Telegraph, the European Virtual School and The Guardian and its educational website, Learn. I was also a member of the European History E-Learning Project (E-Help), a project to encourage and improve use of ICT and the internet in classrooms across the continent.
I have published many e-books, Charles Dickens: A Biography (October, 2012), First World War Encyclopedia (October, 2012), Assassination of John F. Kennedy Encyclopedia (November, 2012), Gandhi: A Biography (December, 2012), The Spanish Civil War (December, 2012) and The American Civil War (December, 2012).
I also contributed an article to the recently published book, Using New Technologies to Enhance Teaching and Learning in History (December, 2012).
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Just sample of many similar ones, to look in to
http://spartacus-educational.com/RUSnazipact.htm
http://spartacus-educational.com/author.htm
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http://spartacus-educational.com/ROMjuvenal.htm
Only few lines about him, including:
" As Juvenal was a satirist, it is usually assumed that he tended to exaggerate in order to make people laugh. Therefore, as historical evidence, Juvenal's poetry has to be used with caution."
well.. roman education
--------------_
about first site atuthor
...gott a look the Nomans invasin part .. and look what is hes color.. seems ordinary establishment word enforcer to stay i safe line..
..
" Over the last thirty years I have written several history books including Gandhi (1987), The Vietnam War (1988), Race Relations in the United States (1988), Slavery: An Illustrated History of Black Resistance (1988), Hitler (1988), Stalin (1987), The Roman Empire (1991), Making of the United Kingdom (1992), Expansion, Trade and Industry (1992), The Medieval Village (1996), The Norman Invasion (1996), etc.
In September, 1997 I established the Spartacus Educational website and over the next six years I produced online material for the Daily Telegraph, the European Virtual School and The Guardian and its educational website, Learn. I was also a member of the European History E-Learning Project (E-Help), a project to encourage and improve use of ICT and the internet in classrooms across the continent.
I have published many e-books, Charles Dickens: A Biography (October, 2012), First World War Encyclopedia (October, 2012), Assassination of John F. Kennedy Encyclopedia (November, 2012), Gandhi: A Biography (December, 2012), The Spanish Civil War (December, 2012) and The American Civil War (December, 2012).
I also contributed an article to the recently published book, Using New Technologies to Enhance Teaching and Learning in History (December, 2012).
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Just sample of many similar ones, to look in to
http://spartacus-educational.com/RUSnazipact.htm
12 April 2018 19:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nothing is more obstinate than a fashionable consensus.
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12 April 2018 12:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
There are still people in my party who believe in consensus politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors... I mean it.
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12 April 2018 11:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
To me, consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects.
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12 April 2018 11:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Any woman who understands the problems of running a home will be nearer to understanding the problems of running a country.
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12 April 2018 11:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
People think that at the top there isn't much room. They tend to think of it as an Everest. My message is that there is tons of room at the top.
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12 April 2018 11:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Of course it's the same old story. Truth usually is the same old story.
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12 April 2018 11:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I just owe almost everything to my father and it's passionately interesting for me that the things that I learned in a small town, in a very modest home, are just the things that I believe have won the election.
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12 April 2018 11:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I am in politics because of the conflict between good and evil, and I believe that in the end good will triumph.
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12 April 2018 11:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
It pays to know the enemy - not least because at some time you may have the opportunity to turn him into a friend.
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12 April 2018 11:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
If my critics saw me walking over the Thames they would say it was because I couldn't swim.
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12 April 2018 11:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
If my critics saw me walking over the Thames they would say it was because I couldn't swim.
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12 April 2018 11:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.
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12 April 2018 11:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
If you set out to be liked, you would be prepared to compromise on anything at any time, and you would achieve nothing.
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12 April 2018 11:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Disciplining yourself to do what you know is right and important, although difficult, is the highroad to pride, self-esteem, and personal satisfaction.
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12 April 2018 11:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Power is like being a lady... if you have to tell people you are, you aren't.
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12 April 2018 11:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money.
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12 April 2018 11:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Standing in the middle of the road is very dangerous; you get knocked down by the traffic from both sides.
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12 April 2018 11:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"One of the things being in politics has taught me is that men are not a reasoned or reasonable sex. "
"If you want something said, ask a man; if you want something done, ask a woman."
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"If you want something said, ask a man; if you want something done, ask a woman."
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12 April 2018 11:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja kuumaks keha teevad naised sellised, alati
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrykkOTuY9Q
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12 April 2018 11:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ahjaa, Margareti sõnad:
"Kui inimesed hakkavad töökoha, sissetuleku, majapidamise, transpordi, pensionite jne. osas lootma täielikult riigile,
JA kui kõrged maksud ning jäigad reeglid nullivad kõik ponnistused murda end vabaks riigisõltuvuse võrgust,
siis muutub rahvas vaeseks NII aineliselt kui vaimselt,
ja selline rahvas lakkab peagi olemast vaba"
Tervitused ka Kersti Kaljulaid'ile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS7f5xpGYn8
"Kui inimesed hakkavad töökoha, sissetuleku, majapidamise, transpordi, pensionite jne. osas lootma täielikult riigile,
JA kui kõrged maksud ning jäigad reeglid nullivad kõik ponnistused murda end vabaks riigisõltuvuse võrgust,
siis muutub rahvas vaeseks NII aineliselt kui vaimselt,
ja selline rahvas lakkab peagi olemast vaba"
Tervitused ka Kersti Kaljulaid'ile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS7f5xpGYn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS7f5xpGYn8
12 April 2018 11:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
näite tarvis, arusamaks jah.. nü nüüd veel folgi seltskonnast meenus ka tuntuid ja .. jaa siin eestis päris mitmeid tuntuid, kuid enamus tuntuid, kes väga hea,d toredadja kuulsad, endiselt nad ei sobi sellele tiitlile
sobivuselt veel loomulikult ka oma olemuselt veel Siiri
ja alguses juba kunagi mõtlesime, et ka Kersti, kuid nüüd kuigi need üüratud üle maailmalised jõud mis teeullina ja kambakana ta olukordaesse panid mis juukseid maha ajama pani..
siis ikkagi saab ettekujutada, alfalisena vaat , et ka teda, (selliselt, et kui võtad selle naise enda kõrval või enda kuninga kõrvale kaasa teise aegruumi , kus rahu, siis tead, et ta oleks meeldiv ja kõigile meeldiv ja austusväärne ning kui tuleks milline iganes mure olukord, suuriiklik, vaimne või looduskatastroof, et ta siis oleks kindalt paigal ja juhataks oma kaaslasega vägesi, pakuks abi, oleks soe ja karm vastvalt olukorra vajadustele, õiglaselt... see on alfaemase tunnusmärk,
muidugi selleks peab olema tal kõrval maailm, ümber, kes ta olmust kinnitab, ja seda vallapäästa lubab.. ega nad eisaa seda rakendada ju ... kui kasvõi poole sõnaga kellegagi vaidlema peab hakkama selliselt, et tugevat seljatagust pole kes vajadusel vaidleja rikkumise, jumalavastalisuse korral korrale kutsuks )
sobivuselt veel loomulikult ka oma olemuselt veel Siiri
ja alguses juba kunagi mõtlesime, et ka Kersti, kuid nüüd kuigi need üüratud üle maailmalised jõud mis teeullina ja kambakana ta olukordaesse panid mis juukseid maha ajama pani..
siis ikkagi saab ettekujutada, alfalisena vaat , et ka teda, (selliselt, et kui võtad selle naise enda kõrval või enda kuninga kõrvale kaasa teise aegruumi , kus rahu, siis tead, et ta oleks meeldiv ja kõigile meeldiv ja austusväärne ning kui tuleks milline iganes mure olukord, suuriiklik, vaimne või looduskatastroof, et ta siis oleks kindalt paigal ja juhataks oma kaaslasega vägesi, pakuks abi, oleks soe ja karm vastvalt olukorra vajadustele, õiglaselt... see on alfaemase tunnusmärk,
muidugi selleks peab olema tal kõrval maailm, ümber, kes ta olmust kinnitab, ja seda vallapäästa lubab.. ega nad eisaa seda rakendada ju ... kui kasvõi poole sõnaga kellegagi vaidlema peab hakkama selliselt, et tugevat seljatagust pole kes vajadusel vaidleja rikkumise, jumalavastalisuse korral korrale kutsuks )
12 April 2018 11:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi on meil kõigil ka päris elus oma, "AlfaEmaseid"
keda kohanud, kuid neist meil ei sobi kõvahäälega teoreetiliselt kunagi avalikuks tulevalt mainida ,avalikult
keda kohanud, kuid neist meil ei sobi kõvahäälega teoreetiliselt kunagi avalikuks tulevalt mainida ,avalikult
12 April 2018 10:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//lisamrge
Jutupoint oli, et maailmas on PALJU alfaisaseid keda unistada väepealikutest kuni AlfaAlfa A & Omegani eksju..
Väga vähe " alfaemaseid" sest emase olemus kaotaks oma olemuse kui rohkem kui üks isane node kallal oleks..
ja ku ika on selline.. kes aldab mitut meest, megahoor heas mõttes, siis ikkagi, kui palju üle 12 suurväärika võimsa mehe üks naine suudaks hallata ÜHES füüsilises reaalsuses, meeste oma peas... eriti mitte eks.. vastureaktsioon, vastumeeldivus tekiks.. ... .. ei ole näha NII palju AINULT mehi joksmas naiste suunas kuskil ühiskonnas karjas, koosteimseliste ja täis meestega eks...
AGA on täitsa tavaline kui suur hulk naisi igas vanuses , eriti teimelises jooksevad miski mehe suunas eks... seda ei peeta eriliseks.. .... ... need kes naisstaarid on, neile samamoodi, jooksevad mehed ja naised koos ja "pooled" nendest meestest ka sellised et .. pole päris kindel miks nad sinnanaisepoole jooksevad
// nu nii see on ühe mõtte alguse ja lõpu kokkuvõte, nii maiselt ku isaain textiliselt nii grmaatliselt ku isain
ja mis moodi need twitterlased, kes päris elus ka räägivad sedasi ,et üks ülteb paaar lauset ja siis teine... ja nagu midagi pikemat suuremat eitulegi... mis moodi nad siis mingilegi arusaamale saavad saada kui pole võimetettekujutlustpildile ei anta toidumaterialigi et hakakta ettekujutama täis metafüüsiliselt millest tiene räägib, milleks rääkima üldse hakati.. alles pelae pildite, mõlmate piltide slegeksksaaamist, kus üks eismese pildi slegitajale teine sinna otsa rääkides peaks vlaima kas teise integreeritult või kui ei saanud kohale. .sis iräägib OMA metafyyska hja siis sellesse integreeritult esimene oma eelnevalt slegitatud pildi ümbr või sisse mahutab... ja siis ku isee ..informatisooniline paivahetus on thetud, alles siis saab hakata vestlema
tähenduslikult ja praktiliselt.
10 minutiga ei räägi siin , ei saa üks inimenegi oma alustuslausetki räägitud pärisjuttude osas.
ja siis imestakase miks pilla palla .. siiin ..
Margaret Dathser
kes vast üks nii lähedal Alfa naistest, meeste iidol naistest kui siiin maal olla saab peale Kuningannade (nu muidugi võiks teatud mõttes ka mitmed nais ninjad Aasialugudest ja Katy Perry ja Eestist uuesti Margareti klassi tasemest rääkides, selliseid naisi kujutlevad võimelised nagu Merle Palmiste ja hääle osas miks ka mitte mäned Vikerraadio legendid, .. .et keda härrasmehed, väärtustega targemad inimesed, poismeestena olles, võiks vaadata ja unistada, et "Vot Kui SELLIST.. sellise olemusega .. vot siis juba juhiks riiki küll kui tema kõrval oleks.." kuidagi sedasimoodi, ... muidugi ei sobi härradel niiülepea kergesti armuda kellegi teiste naistessse ja ammugi ka mitte tundmatusse... nu viimastest suurtest Nais naturaalse ilu olemuse eisle toojatest erinevates hetkedes on vast ka Elina kuid eks näis, kui Malbeks suudab ta kogu selle viisnurkade, teravuste ja manipulatsioonide keskel, pelaiskaudsuste keskel jääda, mis ta ümbertiirlema pandud, huvitav ka, et mul just öeldi, arvasin,et Eestis pidi uus teema käsil olema, mehed käivad ringi, ja imestavad, mõtleva,d uurivad ,arutlevad esimest korda üle pika aja, tõsisselt muretsedes mehelikult, et "NU kes ja mis mees see Elina mees ikka on.. kes ta on ikka päriselt.. " .. sedasi suure vennaliku muretsmeisega :p nii armas, tegelikult (mudugi päris murettekitav kui muede suurtsenaariumid kaudseltki paika peaks kuid .. siis pakuti, et ehk on tegu Turvamehega, et .. et muidu ju ei saa sellises tähevalguses olles, kus peale lenantakse igatsuunast igast eri moodi.. .. .. kuid jällegi, kas Vaimselt saab kaitset Päris tegelaste eest lihtsalt , kui mite et ma ütlen et nii olema peaks, aga kui oleks, et meedia ja maise maialma kaitse eest, et armukrjadega postkast üle ei uputaks ega emotsionaalselt ei segaks... et siis kas ...arvestatkase Riigi turvalisuse osas, ka pisavalt, targalt, sellest, et kas vaimne kaitse ka kaasneb niisama maiset kaitset pakkudes... ja see ju see põhiline mida lõpuks teha vaja on... nu sellest mõeldagi, st oleks vaja , riigi tarkus peaks elementaarselt sellel tasemele olema ja neid tasemeid arendama avalikult, tunnistama alguses, et keskmiselt riik poel viamselt arenneud kuid nüüd täitsa algsest, avatud info põhjal, lähima paarisaja aaasta jooksul, proovime uba pildi selgeks saada, kudias vaja meie oam rahavastja maad läbi aegade kaitsta ja säilitada) )
Jutupoint oli, et maailmas on PALJU alfaisaseid keda unistada väepealikutest kuni AlfaAlfa A & Omegani eksju..
Väga vähe " alfaemaseid" sest emase olemus kaotaks oma olemuse kui rohkem kui üks isane node kallal oleks..
ja ku ika on selline.. kes aldab mitut meest, megahoor heas mõttes, siis ikkagi, kui palju üle 12 suurväärika võimsa mehe üks naine suudaks hallata ÜHES füüsilises reaalsuses, meeste oma peas... eriti mitte eks.. vastureaktsioon, vastumeeldivus tekiks.. ... .. ei ole näha NII palju AINULT mehi joksmas naiste suunas kuskil ühiskonnas karjas, koosteimseliste ja täis meestega eks...
AGA on täitsa tavaline kui suur hulk naisi igas vanuses , eriti teimelises jooksevad miski mehe suunas eks... seda ei peeta eriliseks.. .... ... need kes naisstaarid on, neile samamoodi, jooksevad mehed ja naised koos ja "pooled" nendest meestest ka sellised et .. pole päris kindel miks nad sinnanaisepoole jooksevad
// nu nii see on ühe mõtte alguse ja lõpu kokkuvõte, nii maiselt ku isaain textiliselt nii grmaatliselt ku isain
ja mis moodi need twitterlased, kes päris elus ka räägivad sedasi ,et üks ülteb paaar lauset ja siis teine... ja nagu midagi pikemat suuremat eitulegi... mis moodi nad siis mingilegi arusaamale saavad saada kui pole võimetettekujutlustpildile ei anta toidumaterialigi et hakakta ettekujutama täis metafüüsiliselt millest tiene räägib, milleks rääkima üldse hakati.. alles pelae pildite, mõlmate piltide slegeksksaaamist, kus üks eismese pildi slegitajale teine sinna otsa rääkides peaks vlaima kas teise integreeritult või kui ei saanud kohale. .sis iräägib OMA metafyyska hja siis sellesse integreeritult esimene oma eelnevalt slegitatud pildi ümbr või sisse mahutab... ja siis ku isee ..informatisooniline paivahetus on thetud, alles siis saab hakata vestlema
tähenduslikult ja praktiliselt.
10 minutiga ei räägi siin , ei saa üks inimenegi oma alustuslausetki räägitud pärisjuttude osas.
ja siis imestakase miks pilla palla .. siiin ..
Margaret Dathser
kes vast üks nii lähedal Alfa naistest, meeste iidol naistest kui siiin maal olla saab peale Kuningannade (nu muidugi võiks teatud mõttes ka mitmed nais ninjad Aasialugudest ja Katy Perry ja Eestist uuesti Margareti klassi tasemest rääkides, selliseid naisi kujutlevad võimelised nagu Merle Palmiste ja hääle osas miks ka mitte mäned Vikerraadio legendid, .. .et keda härrasmehed, väärtustega targemad inimesed, poismeestena olles, võiks vaadata ja unistada, et "Vot Kui SELLIST.. sellise olemusega .. vot siis juba juhiks riiki küll kui tema kõrval oleks.." kuidagi sedasimoodi, ... muidugi ei sobi härradel niiülepea kergesti armuda kellegi teiste naistessse ja ammugi ka mitte tundmatusse... nu viimastest suurtest Nais naturaalse ilu olemuse eisle toojatest erinevates hetkedes on vast ka Elina kuid eks näis, kui Malbeks suudab ta kogu selle viisnurkade, teravuste ja manipulatsioonide keskel, pelaiskaudsuste keskel jääda, mis ta ümbertiirlema pandud, huvitav ka, et mul just öeldi, arvasin,et Eestis pidi uus teema käsil olema, mehed käivad ringi, ja imestavad, mõtleva,d uurivad ,arutlevad esimest korda üle pika aja, tõsisselt muretsedes mehelikult, et "NU kes ja mis mees see Elina mees ikka on.. kes ta on ikka päriselt.. " .. sedasi suure vennaliku muretsmeisega :p nii armas, tegelikult (mudugi päris murettekitav kui muede suurtsenaariumid kaudseltki paika peaks kuid .. siis pakuti, et ehk on tegu Turvamehega, et .. et muidu ju ei saa sellises tähevalguses olles, kus peale lenantakse igatsuunast igast eri moodi.. .. .. kuid jällegi, kas Vaimselt saab kaitset Päris tegelaste eest lihtsalt , kui mite et ma ütlen et nii olema peaks, aga kui oleks, et meedia ja maise maialma kaitse eest, et armukrjadega postkast üle ei uputaks ega emotsionaalselt ei segaks... et siis kas ...arvestatkase Riigi turvalisuse osas, ka pisavalt, targalt, sellest, et kas vaimne kaitse ka kaasneb niisama maiset kaitset pakkudes... ja see ju see põhiline mida lõpuks teha vaja on... nu sellest mõeldagi, st oleks vaja , riigi tarkus peaks elementaarselt sellel tasemele olema ja neid tasemeid arendama avalikult, tunnistama alguses, et keskmiselt riik poel viamselt arenneud kuid nüüd täitsa algsest, avatud info põhjal, lähima paarisaja aaasta jooksul, proovime uba pildi selgeks saada, kudias vaja meie oam rahavastja maad läbi aegade kaitsta ja säilitada) )
12 April 2018 10:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja ei osata arusaada, mida tähendab kui keegi ütleb, et ta on "Spirituaalne / Kristlik / NewAge / ilsmaiusuline... budist või ... nu list on väga pikk. ühed maisemad, neist vast on Juudid, nu selles osas, et nad küll absoluutselt ei hakka lapsikustega tegelema nagu filsofeerima kahtlevalt, et kas noid asju olemas on... see elementaarsus mille alavääristamine on nende oma olemuselegi solvav, ... kuid kelle lõplik soov on Siin maailmas korda saada, Siia maailma jääda, siin teha mida vaja ja siis ülejäänu Jumala kätte usaldada ja las to ise vaatab mis edasi saab.. nu selles osas enam maisemat ei saagi olla, ... vaimse ja jumaliku asja selgitus, hästi algtasemele kuid meeldivalt, nagu vanaisa lapselapsele.. selle sosas väikse videoklipi saab ka lisada.. sobib samas ka suurakadeemikutlee kes alles teemaga kurssi viima hakkavad, et nad väärotsast mitukümend aastat viltu eip üõpiks, sest viltust ümberteha on ikka raskem tihti, olenemata kui ideaalselt viltu.. võrreldes õigesuunalise tahumatta (arusaamade osas) kehaga.
Nu vot jah, kudi kuidas see lihtne lause, mõte kokku võtta,
seadusemuudatused tulevad ususuunalised ja lähevad vaimupuudulikud.. kuid seniks mida teeme, et aluspinda kobestada, progressile inimeste meelte arengus kaasa aidata.. .
ahjaa, teema algus hakkas pihta iroonilise paradoxiga, et
kuna ühtepidi peaks olema moraalsuse epidoom, enamuste 's meeltes, ideaalis, Kristlus,
ja New Age vaimsus kes Jessust aksepteerib millises iganes unistuste versioonis ja tunnetuste kaudu,
(kahju, et vähe neid ajasrändajaid ja teleEsoteerikud vähe kuulda kes võtaks vaevaks siis paartuhat aastat tagasi liikuda ja näh,a vaadata kudias asjad on.... ups.. nüüd öeldes seda vast juba tekib nagu seeni pelae vihma varsti...tausb vaid otsida.. ..nu selles osas et VÄGA suurt vahet ei ole ju, et kas vaimudega suhtlejad siis infot saavad ühe tudmatu kadunukese kohta Andmebaasist, vaimu töötajate käest.. kes ei allu aeg-ruum-mateeriale .. et mis vaev siis neil vaadata paartuhat aastat vanemaid Faile eks... huvi nagu oleks kergeltöelda päris pidev/pinev.. ..vaatajaitki oleks, suurem osa skeptikuteski võtaks paki krõpsu, ja tuuniks sisse ning hipid teeks peale ja prooviks tunnetada, kas nad ajavad nüüd jama jälle või nad päriselt miskit tõsist võlumaagiat korraldavad ja mis eesmärgil. )
Nu igatahes jah.. seda peavad
tunnistama ilma kahtluseta, Kõik kes vähegi on kristlased, ja usulised, arusaama, et on rohkem sobilikke unistusi ja kogemusi VÄGA suurel hulgal Naistel ja Tüdrukutel väärtuslikuse, korrlaikuse Alfaisa ikooni osas, ...vast rohkem kindlasti ja kindlasti mitte suures maahus kokku nii sügavalt kui praeguseaja pop ikoone kes proovinud selle meeterpuuga võistelda...
et miks seda teemat nii vähe, kui üldse, üldse pole kuulnud.. et TEGELIKULT ju ei sobiks suurel osal naistel, unistada semierootiliselt ei mõtetes üksi ega oma abikaasaga olles, mingitel eluperioodidel jessusest eks... ja kuigi eranditult peaaegu kõik selle absoluutseks saladuseks on järnud, siis see ilmselge, elementaarne ,et seda tehakse. (lisaks sellele mida otse räägitud mulle)
Aga arvatakse, et piisab nagu 10ne käsu peale noogutamisest ja "üldiselt arusaamisest" mis on mis... aga ei arvestata, et kui mees, maine, kasvõi ÜHESKI asjas natukene lonkab, ja see hõõruma hakkab kui vill.. siis on NAISEL õigus (rohkem õigus, naturaalne rohkem naturaalne ja loomupärane heasmõttes, ) koheselt unistada hetkeks .."oooh.. ku ita oleks vaid.... siis ta ei... siis oleks ta..."
Nu vot eks, Muidugi mees seda teha ei tohi ja pole õigus ka, sest kes on mees Naise lohakust peas komenteerima ja siis kellegist .. KELLEST unistama ? Mis .. see teine naine.. kes ta on ja MILLISTES mastaapides eks.. kui naine mõtleb kellegi puudujääkide osas, kellegile muule, siis asjade osas mis tõsised puudujäägid on mida armastus ei korva niisamalihtsalt.. olgu need mehe väärnõudmised, lohakused või liivad mida silumine ainult vaevumärgatavalt pehemndanud on kuid on näha, et piisaks õiget moodi vabakäiku ja oma tegeliku arusaaama väljaütlemist ja siis see mees juba hambaid ka oma kehateisepoole osas näitab ja mitte sellepärast, et JUmalavastast , suurreaalsuse vastast viga tehti.. vaid ikka sellepärast,et sisemine arusaamatus tema enda kohta kes ta on, tundus ohustatud ja puudutatud lapse jonnakalikusega... sest kärkida võib ju jumalakartuses, teise hinge päästeks.. aga mitte iseeenda õiguse tagaajamiseks.
Ajutiseks õigustuseks jah, veel, hetkeks, senikaua kui selle algus jaa lõp endiselt jumalas on. Kui kaitstakse siirast südametegu ja midagi mida keegi päriselt usub et nii on olnud ja nii ta tegi ise sellepärast mida mäeletab.. siis veel.. aga igasugused muud Urisemised...
Vot jah.. et kui mees mõtleb .. kellegist tiesest naisest, siis see ei saa kunagi suht õige olema, sest esiteks muidugi need naised kõi ktevaad suuresplaanis ja näevad neid mtteid ja need parimal juhul (või vhaest meestele ka halvimal juhul) emotsiooni pakettidena tagasi langevad kus häiritus tuleb läbi mingi maise vea kallale üleloomuliku tervusega astumine.. sest häris ju miski juba ammusuuremalt aga maiselt muud vabandust ei leia ju kui mingi kasvõi prilllaud, .. et siis saaada kinnitust, kas vähemalt maiselt on alandlikus ja kuulekus veategemises oelmas... ja kui seda pole.. siis tõestus, et ka mujalt tulev tunne võib olla tõevääriline..
... muidugi eks siin targmate olulisemate prjektide osas needki ürgsed strutkuurid on manipuleeritud ja testitakse kuidas parmini manipuleeirda millises kooseisus .. kuid see juba teine meetrine jutt slegiamkas mida sellesosas motlesin , filmisyseeks aga sobiks kergesti.
Vut jah.. et siis on mehe süü ku ita paneb naise endast mujale mõtlema.. ja on mehe süü absoluutse kindlusega kui ta naisega veel koos olles teisest naisest MÕTLEB ... sest muidugi, eks tegu maiselt ole veel hullem kui mõte mida vahest tänapäeval juba saavad nad sulle pähe ka projekteeerida kui vaimsete tagauste ja muu pahna-rämpsuga palju kokku pouutunud, meeltepehmuses unustanud, muude ilmade üliarengut me keskmise meedia pildi osas mida masssidele legaalselt praegu veel näidatakse... et siis jah.. aga isegi siis kohe kui tuleb päeh, mingi mõte, peaks alandlikult kiiresti reageerima ja sellele meelepildile vastureaksiooni andma, sest endiselt, sellel hetkel, kui oled õige naisega on see see tema, ainuke kes Su ja Jumala vahel vahendajaks ja TÕENDAJAKS on, et see tegeleane PEale seda elu siin väärt edasi hoida ja kasutada on suuremas plaanis... või saadetakse ta ümbertöötlusesse, mass kasutusse, või vaenlasele saagiks, või veel väga palju muid varjante ja skeememe mis aga ükski pole mingitpidi võrreldav sellega, mis saab siis, kui päris armastuses oles inimene siin keha jätab...
Nu vot jah, kudi kuidas see lihtne lause, mõte kokku võtta,
seadusemuudatused tulevad ususuunalised ja lähevad vaimupuudulikud.. kuid seniks mida teeme, et aluspinda kobestada, progressile inimeste meelte arengus kaasa aidata.. .
ahjaa, teema algus hakkas pihta iroonilise paradoxiga, et
kuna ühtepidi peaks olema moraalsuse epidoom, enamuste 's meeltes, ideaalis, Kristlus,
ja New Age vaimsus kes Jessust aksepteerib millises iganes unistuste versioonis ja tunnetuste kaudu,
(kahju, et vähe neid ajasrändajaid ja teleEsoteerikud vähe kuulda kes võtaks vaevaks siis paartuhat aastat tagasi liikuda ja näh,a vaadata kudias asjad on.... ups.. nüüd öeldes seda vast juba tekib nagu seeni pelae vihma varsti...tausb vaid otsida.. ..nu selles osas et VÄGA suurt vahet ei ole ju, et kas vaimudega suhtlejad siis infot saavad ühe tudmatu kadunukese kohta Andmebaasist, vaimu töötajate käest.. kes ei allu aeg-ruum-mateeriale .. et mis vaev siis neil vaadata paartuhat aastat vanemaid Faile eks... huvi nagu oleks kergeltöelda päris pidev/pinev.. ..vaatajaitki oleks, suurem osa skeptikuteski võtaks paki krõpsu, ja tuuniks sisse ning hipid teeks peale ja prooviks tunnetada, kas nad ajavad nüüd jama jälle või nad päriselt miskit tõsist võlumaagiat korraldavad ja mis eesmärgil. )
Nu igatahes jah.. seda peavad
tunnistama ilma kahtluseta, Kõik kes vähegi on kristlased, ja usulised, arusaama, et on rohkem sobilikke unistusi ja kogemusi VÄGA suurel hulgal Naistel ja Tüdrukutel väärtuslikuse, korrlaikuse Alfaisa ikooni osas, ...vast rohkem kindlasti ja kindlasti mitte suures maahus kokku nii sügavalt kui praeguseaja pop ikoone kes proovinud selle meeterpuuga võistelda...
et miks seda teemat nii vähe, kui üldse, üldse pole kuulnud.. et TEGELIKULT ju ei sobiks suurel osal naistel, unistada semierootiliselt ei mõtetes üksi ega oma abikaasaga olles, mingitel eluperioodidel jessusest eks... ja kuigi eranditult peaaegu kõik selle absoluutseks saladuseks on järnud, siis see ilmselge, elementaarne ,et seda tehakse. (lisaks sellele mida otse räägitud mulle)
Aga arvatakse, et piisab nagu 10ne käsu peale noogutamisest ja "üldiselt arusaamisest" mis on mis... aga ei arvestata, et kui mees, maine, kasvõi ÜHESKI asjas natukene lonkab, ja see hõõruma hakkab kui vill.. siis on NAISEL õigus (rohkem õigus, naturaalne rohkem naturaalne ja loomupärane heasmõttes, ) koheselt unistada hetkeks .."oooh.. ku ita oleks vaid.... siis ta ei... siis oleks ta..."
Nu vot eks, Muidugi mees seda teha ei tohi ja pole õigus ka, sest kes on mees Naise lohakust peas komenteerima ja siis kellegist .. KELLEST unistama ? Mis .. see teine naine.. kes ta on ja MILLISTES mastaapides eks.. kui naine mõtleb kellegi puudujääkide osas, kellegile muule, siis asjade osas mis tõsised puudujäägid on mida armastus ei korva niisamalihtsalt.. olgu need mehe väärnõudmised, lohakused või liivad mida silumine ainult vaevumärgatavalt pehemndanud on kuid on näha, et piisaks õiget moodi vabakäiku ja oma tegeliku arusaaama väljaütlemist ja siis see mees juba hambaid ka oma kehateisepoole osas näitab ja mitte sellepärast, et JUmalavastast , suurreaalsuse vastast viga tehti.. vaid ikka sellepärast,et sisemine arusaamatus tema enda kohta kes ta on, tundus ohustatud ja puudutatud lapse jonnakalikusega... sest kärkida võib ju jumalakartuses, teise hinge päästeks.. aga mitte iseeenda õiguse tagaajamiseks.
Ajutiseks õigustuseks jah, veel, hetkeks, senikaua kui selle algus jaa lõp endiselt jumalas on. Kui kaitstakse siirast südametegu ja midagi mida keegi päriselt usub et nii on olnud ja nii ta tegi ise sellepärast mida mäeletab.. siis veel.. aga igasugused muud Urisemised...
Vot jah.. et kui mees mõtleb .. kellegist tiesest naisest, siis see ei saa kunagi suht õige olema, sest esiteks muidugi need naised kõi ktevaad suuresplaanis ja näevad neid mtteid ja need parimal juhul (või vhaest meestele ka halvimal juhul) emotsiooni pakettidena tagasi langevad kus häiritus tuleb läbi mingi maise vea kallale üleloomuliku tervusega astumine.. sest häris ju miski juba ammusuuremalt aga maiselt muud vabandust ei leia ju kui mingi kasvõi prilllaud, .. et siis saaada kinnitust, kas vähemalt maiselt on alandlikus ja kuulekus veategemises oelmas... ja kui seda pole.. siis tõestus, et ka mujalt tulev tunne võib olla tõevääriline..
... muidugi eks siin targmate olulisemate prjektide osas needki ürgsed strutkuurid on manipuleeritud ja testitakse kuidas parmini manipuleeirda millises kooseisus .. kuid see juba teine meetrine jutt slegiamkas mida sellesosas motlesin , filmisyseeks aga sobiks kergesti.
Vut jah.. et siis on mehe süü ku ita paneb naise endast mujale mõtlema.. ja on mehe süü absoluutse kindlusega kui ta naisega veel koos olles teisest naisest MÕTLEB ... sest muidugi, eks tegu maiselt ole veel hullem kui mõte mida vahest tänapäeval juba saavad nad sulle pähe ka projekteeerida kui vaimsete tagauste ja muu pahna-rämpsuga palju kokku pouutunud, meeltepehmuses unustanud, muude ilmade üliarengut me keskmise meedia pildi osas mida masssidele legaalselt praegu veel näidatakse... et siis jah.. aga isegi siis kohe kui tuleb päeh, mingi mõte, peaks alandlikult kiiresti reageerima ja sellele meelepildile vastureaksiooni andma, sest endiselt, sellel hetkel, kui oled õige naisega on see see tema, ainuke kes Su ja Jumala vahel vahendajaks ja TÕENDAJAKS on, et see tegeleane PEale seda elu siin väärt edasi hoida ja kasutada on suuremas plaanis... või saadetakse ta ümbertöötlusesse, mass kasutusse, või vaenlasele saagiks, või veel väga palju muid varjante ja skeememe mis aga ükski pole mingitpidi võrreldav sellega, mis saab siis, kui päris armastuses oles inimene siin keha jätab...
12 April 2018 10:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid muidu kuulates igasuguseid unistusi ja lugusi,
siis üldiselt jääb mulje, nagu Jessus on vist kõigesuurem meeshoor üldse.
Kuna ta kindlasti rohkem kui millionite naismeelte unistustes on olnud ilma igasuguse kahtluseta, ja kuulnud lugusi ka täitsa tõeusus räägitult,
et temaga vaimses maailmas (nu kus suuremasi tegevust päriselt nagunii toimib, kui vaadata maailmapilti selleusupildi järgi mida ENAMUS planeedist meie maal siiamaani usub, aastal 2018.. et siis ENAMUS planeedist ilma kahtluseta usub/teab, et on sellemaailma väline maailm ja palju muid maailmasi... lihtesoteerilised New Ageridki räägivad astraal rännakutest ja tulnarite maailmast.. nu tegelikult võiks ka nemad juba südamerahuga Kristliku maailmapildi alla liigitada võrreldes nendega, keda need mõlemad grupid kiviajulisteks lootusetuks taandarenguks peavad: EHK neid, kes ei ole võimelised isegi mitte arusaama, rääkimata otsesuhtluses ja võimetes olema muude maailmade, unenägude ja vaimsete maailmade sees toimetama...)
Mina toimetan ikka siin kaksjaöga maapeal + siis see kõik muu mis partamatult on nii kuidas on..
aga et siis jah...
veider on siis see, et kui keegi neil teemadel AVALIKULT sõnavõtab, siis jäetakse mulje, nagu suuremosa maailmast oleks pimedad või ajupuudulikud, või hoopis mingi muu usulised... aga tegelik elementaarne statistika, on näha, et suuremosa planeedist ennast peab SELLE usuliseks, kes ilma igasuguse kahtluseta, saab AINULT SIIS selle usuline olla kui nad Teavad Veendunult, et on praegu mingi muu maailm, kus Jessus või kes kõik veel ringi majandavad või vähemasti nagu Vaaraod-Vampiirid kuskil hiibernaated olekus magavad kuni aeg tuleb kehasse eluvaim sisse tõmmata ja siia maailma materialiseeruda. Nu see elementaarne eks.
Elementaarne eks, aga ikkagi, ääretult veider, et seadusega lubatakse represeerida, Globvaalselt endiselt, avalikult ja priovaatseltki, inimesi kes nodel teemadel sõnavõtavad, et siis Vaimse ja veel sinna otsa JUmaliku maailma osas. ... veider eks millised paraleel ilmad .. siia komentaari otsagi on vähestest kelle silmadele see lubatud on(hullult vastuolulised realsusele kom.), sest ilmselge, et enamuse meeltes pantud asjad nii, et nad ei näeks, need asjad ammu järgitestitud masside peal ja siin ei pea kerge IT mees olema et sellest arusaada.. kuid
kuid siis jätkata..
et sisi jätkata..
kus jäi järg.. ahja, umbes siia,
et siis...lubatud rääkida ja suhelda avalikus meedias sellises toonis, nagu nad keskmine norm oleks hullumaja ja kergatsite vahepealne standard, trilla lulla ringi jooksmine või siis tõsiselt rääkimine asjadest kus pole vaimsust karvavõrdki, Jumalast rääkimata, arvestatud... mis tõsine saadeja jutt see olla saab, kui SELLINE toon võetud, et ming i"usuvabadus" ajastul elama pidime ju,,.. kuid tegelt on nagu rohem usulikvideerimise ajastu, ... ainuke vaheldus on Soome TV7 ja selle lipsus saatejuhid teevad nii stereotüüpilist teatit, et paha hakkab...
Kus on eetris rabid ja kristlikutes külades sügavad vestlused ja radikaalsed hüüjud inimestelt... mis ...see sama kui näidata MegaChurtside videosi kus lipsus müügimehed hingi püüüavad läbi Jumalasõna.. ja partamatult, head tekib nii nende MegaChrtside kui TV7 me kaudu, ... kuigi siiamaani ainuke Jumalalähedane hääletoon ja mõttesügavus, on ainult vahest Pereraadiost ja Vikerrraadiost kõrvu jäänud, ... kuigi ka Pereraadio ..oh node päästmine saab ehk kunagi lihtsam olema kui TV7 me....vb ainult sellisena lubatakse noil eksisteerida veel, kuigi upututamine käib järjepidev kus kellegi eksimuste otsa ei julgeta öelda selgitustõde ja kellegi kergemeelsuse otsa unustatakse karmimalt öelda Vanatestamendilikku Kaja Lood toonilist tarkust.
Vut jah,
kuid see polnud ikka see milles päriselt rääkima pidin kui järg enne käest lipsas... mis see päriselt oli.. momento.. /vaatame...
ahjaa,
blobaalselt jäetakse enamuste inimeste suhtluses mulje, nagu neil oleks lubatud siis ebausklikuna käituda ja üleolevad ja enesetargalt kõlada omades kraade ja muid teadmisteusu pakette,
kuid reaalne matemaatika näitab, et olenemata mida me eneselahjenduseks teiste usust rääkida võime uskumatude jaoks hirmuäratavate numbrite reaalsel mõtlemisel (vja lisaks peaks ka Moslmeid siia otsa panema lisaks NewAgeritele, kes on veendunud, oma elupõhjas, et on muud olendid olemas keda me silmaga ei näe, kuid kes meie elu elavad , meie külge kleepuvad, me sisse saavad kaugelt ja otseselt ligi, meid massiliselt ja eraisikuliselt mõjutavad igasuguste maiste ja muuamaailmaliste agendade tarvis..)
et siis jah, see on elementaarne matemaatika, aga näe, millegiprast üleõpitud, ei osata arusaada mida tähendab POOL ja üle 50%
isegi,
siis üldiselt jääb mulje, nagu Jessus on vist kõigesuurem meeshoor üldse.
Kuna ta kindlasti rohkem kui millionite naismeelte unistustes on olnud ilma igasuguse kahtluseta, ja kuulnud lugusi ka täitsa tõeusus räägitult,
et temaga vaimses maailmas (nu kus suuremasi tegevust päriselt nagunii toimib, kui vaadata maailmapilti selleusupildi järgi mida ENAMUS planeedist meie maal siiamaani usub, aastal 2018.. et siis ENAMUS planeedist ilma kahtluseta usub/teab, et on sellemaailma väline maailm ja palju muid maailmasi... lihtesoteerilised New Ageridki räägivad astraal rännakutest ja tulnarite maailmast.. nu tegelikult võiks ka nemad juba südamerahuga Kristliku maailmapildi alla liigitada võrreldes nendega, keda need mõlemad grupid kiviajulisteks lootusetuks taandarenguks peavad: EHK neid, kes ei ole võimelised isegi mitte arusaama, rääkimata otsesuhtluses ja võimetes olema muude maailmade, unenägude ja vaimsete maailmade sees toimetama...)
Mina toimetan ikka siin kaksjaöga maapeal + siis see kõik muu mis partamatult on nii kuidas on..
aga et siis jah...
veider on siis see, et kui keegi neil teemadel AVALIKULT sõnavõtab, siis jäetakse mulje, nagu suuremosa maailmast oleks pimedad või ajupuudulikud, või hoopis mingi muu usulised... aga tegelik elementaarne statistika, on näha, et suuremosa planeedist ennast peab SELLE usuliseks, kes ilma igasuguse kahtluseta, saab AINULT SIIS selle usuline olla kui nad Teavad Veendunult, et on praegu mingi muu maailm, kus Jessus või kes kõik veel ringi majandavad või vähemasti nagu Vaaraod-Vampiirid kuskil hiibernaated olekus magavad kuni aeg tuleb kehasse eluvaim sisse tõmmata ja siia maailma materialiseeruda. Nu see elementaarne eks.
Elementaarne eks, aga ikkagi, ääretult veider, et seadusega lubatakse represeerida, Globvaalselt endiselt, avalikult ja priovaatseltki, inimesi kes nodel teemadel sõnavõtavad, et siis Vaimse ja veel sinna otsa JUmaliku maailma osas. ... veider eks millised paraleel ilmad .. siia komentaari otsagi on vähestest kelle silmadele see lubatud on(hullult vastuolulised realsusele kom.), sest ilmselge, et enamuse meeltes pantud asjad nii, et nad ei näeks, need asjad ammu järgitestitud masside peal ja siin ei pea kerge IT mees olema et sellest arusaada.. kuid
kuid siis jätkata..
et sisi jätkata..
kus jäi järg.. ahja, umbes siia,
et siis...lubatud rääkida ja suhelda avalikus meedias sellises toonis, nagu nad keskmine norm oleks hullumaja ja kergatsite vahepealne standard, trilla lulla ringi jooksmine või siis tõsiselt rääkimine asjadest kus pole vaimsust karvavõrdki, Jumalast rääkimata, arvestatud... mis tõsine saadeja jutt see olla saab, kui SELLINE toon võetud, et ming i"usuvabadus" ajastul elama pidime ju,,.. kuid tegelt on nagu rohem usulikvideerimise ajastu, ... ainuke vaheldus on Soome TV7 ja selle lipsus saatejuhid teevad nii stereotüüpilist teatit, et paha hakkab...
Kus on eetris rabid ja kristlikutes külades sügavad vestlused ja radikaalsed hüüjud inimestelt... mis ...see sama kui näidata MegaChurtside videosi kus lipsus müügimehed hingi püüüavad läbi Jumalasõna.. ja partamatult, head tekib nii nende MegaChrtside kui TV7 me kaudu, ... kuigi siiamaani ainuke Jumalalähedane hääletoon ja mõttesügavus, on ainult vahest Pereraadiost ja Vikerrraadiost kõrvu jäänud, ... kuigi ka Pereraadio ..oh node päästmine saab ehk kunagi lihtsam olema kui TV7 me....vb ainult sellisena lubatakse noil eksisteerida veel, kuigi upututamine käib järjepidev kus kellegi eksimuste otsa ei julgeta öelda selgitustõde ja kellegi kergemeelsuse otsa unustatakse karmimalt öelda Vanatestamendilikku Kaja Lood toonilist tarkust.
Vut jah,
kuid see polnud ikka see milles päriselt rääkima pidin kui järg enne käest lipsas... mis see päriselt oli.. momento.. /vaatame...
ahjaa,
blobaalselt jäetakse enamuste inimeste suhtluses mulje, nagu neil oleks lubatud siis ebausklikuna käituda ja üleolevad ja enesetargalt kõlada omades kraade ja muid teadmisteusu pakette,
kuid reaalne matemaatika näitab, et olenemata mida me eneselahjenduseks teiste usust rääkida võime uskumatude jaoks hirmuäratavate numbrite reaalsel mõtlemisel (vja lisaks peaks ka Moslmeid siia otsa panema lisaks NewAgeritele, kes on veendunud, oma elupõhjas, et on muud olendid olemas keda me silmaga ei näe, kuid kes meie elu elavad , meie külge kleepuvad, me sisse saavad kaugelt ja otseselt ligi, meid massiliselt ja eraisikuliselt mõjutavad igasuguste maiste ja muuamaailmaliste agendade tarvis..)
et siis jah, see on elementaarne matemaatika, aga näe, millegiprast üleõpitud, ei osata arusaada mida tähendab POOL ja üle 50%
isegi,
12 April 2018 10:37
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Tamm's comment.
nu mõtle nüüd ise, kui minu jaoks liialt tihe ja liialt korrapärane on kuus korra kuskile kohale jõuda, mis moodi siis see kellast kellani asi veel toimima peaks..
ma kellast kellani OMA moodustel loodud tööl saaks käia, kuid kellegi teise tööd teha mida ma ei näe, et on OTSESELT seotud maialma parandmaisega, seda Üli raske mul ennast sundida teha, suudaksin nädala paar siis hakkab katus sõitma ja mutub olukord väga paranoiliseks, et miks nad mind tirkitavad mngi rahaga kinni kuskil hoidmisega...
vüi siis lihtsalt juhtub niipalu muid asju kohe kindlasti erisuguseid.. et oleks võimatu.
Kuid yeha, ma heameelega, töötaks enamuse aja, ööpäevaringselt,
kuid selles aalas, sellel moodusel mis ma tunnen, et on vajalik ja näen ka et sellest tulemust tuleb.
Nied mooduseid ja vahendied mul väga palju kuid maises maailmas selgitada miks neid ei saa käima panna ja rakendada, seda slegitada.. kui ma ka oskaks hästi või teaks, siis ikagi sellel puuduks mõte ja võimalikus.
On eri moodi olendeid ja inimesi eri suurasjade ja väikeasjade reguleerimiseks, et ülejäänud saaksid rahulikult elada ja rutiinis või rutiinitult elu veeta...
minul näiteks ei ole inimloldina kirja võimet antud, selleks mul pekas kaaslane olema enamuses osas,
vastmais võime on igas asjas suht antud, aga mitte kirjelik tavavestluste joaks, maagia, võlukunsti jms jaoks jah, kerge... aga mitte ühiskonna joone järgi.
Ma saan enamasti ainult sügavustest, suurustest ja vajalikustest rääkida, ühesõnaga ainult asjadest millest kasu ja mis edasi arendab mu meeeli..
st iga vesluse algus ja lõpus, peab olema sedasi ,et see on midagi olulist edasi arendanud.. see on tehav praktilise informatisoni vahetustega... aga siin ilmas.. ma alles praegu "hibernated" oleksu veel seni... ja siis selles olekus.. loon ja märgistan osasi ajsu, ootan aega rakendmaiseks
ma kellast kellani OMA moodustel loodud tööl saaks käia, kuid kellegi teise tööd teha mida ma ei näe, et on OTSESELT seotud maialma parandmaisega, seda Üli raske mul ennast sundida teha, suudaksin nädala paar siis hakkab katus sõitma ja mutub olukord väga paranoiliseks, et miks nad mind tirkitavad mngi rahaga kinni kuskil hoidmisega...
vüi siis lihtsalt juhtub niipalu muid asju kohe kindlasti erisuguseid.. et oleks võimatu.
Kuid yeha, ma heameelega, töötaks enamuse aja, ööpäevaringselt,
kuid selles aalas, sellel moodusel mis ma tunnen, et on vajalik ja näen ka et sellest tulemust tuleb.
Nied mooduseid ja vahendied mul väga palju kuid maises maailmas selgitada miks neid ei saa käima panna ja rakendada, seda slegitada.. kui ma ka oskaks hästi või teaks, siis ikagi sellel puuduks mõte ja võimalikus.
On eri moodi olendeid ja inimesi eri suurasjade ja väikeasjade reguleerimiseks, et ülejäänud saaksid rahulikult elada ja rutiinis või rutiinitult elu veeta...
minul näiteks ei ole inimloldina kirja võimet antud, selleks mul pekas kaaslane olema enamuses osas,
vastmais võime on igas asjas suht antud, aga mitte kirjelik tavavestluste joaks, maagia, võlukunsti jms jaoks jah, kerge... aga mitte ühiskonna joone järgi.
Ma saan enamasti ainult sügavustest, suurustest ja vajalikustest rääkida, ühesõnaga ainult asjadest millest kasu ja mis edasi arendab mu meeeli..
st iga vesluse algus ja lõpus, peab olema sedasi ,et see on midagi olulist edasi arendanud.. see on tehav praktilise informatisoni vahetustega... aga siin ilmas.. ma alles praegu "hibernated" oleksu veel seni... ja siis selles olekus.. loon ja märgistan osasi ajsu, ootan aega rakendmaiseks
11 April 2018 18:02
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Adami's post.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
See fantastilne jah, et nii räägivad..
Kuid tuleb aru saada, et ühed inimesed, räägivad metsast ja elust.
Teised räägivad puidust ja toodangust/kaubast, nende arust võiks puitu ka kartulipeenras kasvatada piltlikult, sest nemad mitte ei tegeleme metsa vaid puiduga.
See umbes nagu räägiksime inimestest vs inimlihast mida toiduks kasutatakse, või siis loomalihast lihtsama paraleeli toomiseks (kuid ei saa piisavalt seda paraleeli kasutada, sest greeka-rooma hariduse põhised iniemsed endiselt ei saa aru , et loomad on üldjuhul inimestest areneneumad, sügavamõtelisemad ja targemad mineviku ja tuleviu ja oma tegemiste ja vajaduste osas. Eks ka nende hulgas ole hulle ja oma külatolasi, oma austusväärseid ja legende... kuid jah... petsa ja puidu teema mure ongi, et ühed räägivad inimestest ja slelega kaasnevast jumala misioonist, luules,t kunstist, armumistest, lastenaerust ja vanainimeste tarkusest ja kõik mis sellega kaasneb... ja teised räägivad #toodanguks vajalikust lihavanusest (raieküpsusest jms) ... eks muidugi ka jah.. inimolendeid muudeolendite poolt nii kaustatkse siin, sellesse ei hakka laskuma, kuid see kaustamisegi õigus neil on sellepärast, et me ise loodust sedamoodi kasutame.. )11 April 2018 17:50
Margus Meigo replied to Ajay Singh's comment.
well, after we sleep 26 hours, we can also be a wake, few day's in line,
as i am often,
as i am often,
11 April 2018 17:43
Margus Meigo commented on Tuhin Kumar Dutta's post.
Greetings from taurus, good to know!
11 April 2018 17:41
Margus Meigo commented on Elina Netšajeva's post.
Veab kõigil, kellel õnnestub kohale tulla!
11 April 2018 15:17
Margus Meigo commented on Elina Netšajeva's post.
OIh.. Kui vaid oleks võimalik neis kohtades ka ise kohal olla..
11 April 2018 15:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
//see endale, kokkovõte uues postis teen kergema kus arusaadav välisele
11 April 2018 13:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"In cryptography, the one-time pad (OTP) is an encryption technique that cannot be cracked, but requires the use of a one-time pre-shared key the same size as, or longer than, the message being sent. In this technique, a plaintext is paired with a random secret key (also referred to as a one-time pad). Then, each bit or character of the plaintext is encrypted by combining it with the corresponding bit or character from the pad using modular addition. If the key is truly random, is at least as long as the plaintext, is never reused in whole or in part, and is kept completely secret, then the resulting ciphertext will be impossible to decrypt or break "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad
"A format of one-time pad used by the U.S. National Security Agency, code named DIANA. The table on the right is an aid for converting between plaintext and ciphertext using the characters at left as the key."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad#/media/File:NSA_DIANA_one_time_pad.tiff
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"One-time pads are "information-theoretically secure" in that the encrypted message (i.e., the ciphertext) provides no information about the original message to a cryptanalyst (except the maximum possible length[16] of the message). This is a very strong notion of security first developed during WWII by Claude Shannon and proved, mathematically, to be true for the one-time pad by Shannon about the same time. His result was published in the Bell Labs Technical Journal in 1949.[17] Properly used, one-time pads are secure in this sense even against adversaries with infinite computational power.
Claude Shannon proved, using information theory considerations, that the one-time pad has a property he termed perfect secrecy; that is, the ciphertext C gives absolutely no additional information about the plaintext. This is because, given a truly random key which is used only once, a ciphertext can be translated into any plaintext of the same length, and all are equally likely. Thus, the a priori probability of a plaintext message M is the same as the a posteriori probability of a plaintext message M given the corresponding ciphertext. Mathematically, this is expressed as H(M)=H(M|C), where H(M) is the entropy of the plaintext and H(M|C) is the conditional entropy of the plaintext given the ciphertext C. Perfect secrecy is a strong notion of cryptanalytic difficulty."
Shannon, Claude (1949). "Communication Theory of Secrecy Systems". Bell System Technical Journal. 28 (4): 656–715. doi:10.1002/j.1538-7305.1949.tb00928.x.
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"The Translations and KGB Cryptographic Systems" (PDF). The Venona Story. Fort Meade, Maryland: National Security Agency. 2004-01-15. pp. 26–27 (28–29th of 63 in PDF). Retrieved 2009-05-03. "...KGB's cryptographic material manufacturing center in the Soviet Union apparently reused some of the pages from one-time pads. This provided Arlington Hall with an opening."
http://www.nsa.gov/about/_files/cryptologic_heritage/publications/coldwar/venona_story.pdf
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:NSA_one-time_pads
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradecraft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicity_distance
*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information-theoretic_security
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_drop
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_handling
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_analysis#Analytic_tradecraft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_bag_operation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealment_device
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut-out_(espionage)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eavesdropping // simle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_organization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sting_operation (honey trap)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-way_voice_link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEMPEST
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_security (COMSEC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clandestine_HUMINT_operational_techniques
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Geospatial_Intelligence_Foundation
(It applies to clandestine operations for espionage, and for a clandestine phase prior to direct action (DA) or unconventional warfare (UW). Clandestine HUMINT sources may also act as local guides for special reconnaissance (SR).)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad
"A format of one-time pad used by the U.S. National Security Agency, code named DIANA. The table on the right is an aid for converting between plaintext and ciphertext using the characters at left as the key."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad#/media/File:NSA_DIANA_one_time_pad.tiff
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"One-time pads are "information-theoretically secure" in that the encrypted message (i.e., the ciphertext) provides no information about the original message to a cryptanalyst (except the maximum possible length[16] of the message). This is a very strong notion of security first developed during WWII by Claude Shannon and proved, mathematically, to be true for the one-time pad by Shannon about the same time. His result was published in the Bell Labs Technical Journal in 1949.[17] Properly used, one-time pads are secure in this sense even against adversaries with infinite computational power.
Claude Shannon proved, using information theory considerations, that the one-time pad has a property he termed perfect secrecy; that is, the ciphertext C gives absolutely no additional information about the plaintext. This is because, given a truly random key which is used only once, a ciphertext can be translated into any plaintext of the same length, and all are equally likely. Thus, the a priori probability of a plaintext message M is the same as the a posteriori probability of a plaintext message M given the corresponding ciphertext. Mathematically, this is expressed as H(M)=H(M|C), where H(M) is the entropy of the plaintext and H(M|C) is the conditional entropy of the plaintext given the ciphertext C. Perfect secrecy is a strong notion of cryptanalytic difficulty."
Shannon, Claude (1949). "Communication Theory of Secrecy Systems". Bell System Technical Journal. 28 (4): 656–715. doi:10.1002/j.1538-7305.1949.tb00928.x.
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"The Translations and KGB Cryptographic Systems" (PDF). The Venona Story. Fort Meade, Maryland: National Security Agency. 2004-01-15. pp. 26–27 (28–29th of 63 in PDF). Retrieved 2009-05-03. "...KGB's cryptographic material manufacturing center in the Soviet Union apparently reused some of the pages from one-time pads. This provided Arlington Hall with an opening."
http://www.nsa.gov/about/_files/cryptologic_heritage/publications/coldwar/venona_story.pdf
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:NSA_one-time_pads
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradecraft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicity_distance
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information-theoretic_security
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_drop
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_handling
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_analysis#Analytic_tradecraft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_bag_operation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealment_device
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut-out_(espionage)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eavesdropping // simle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_organization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sting_operation (honey trap)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-way_voice_link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEMPEST
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_security (COMSEC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clandestine_HUMINT_operational_techniques
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Geospatial_Intelligence_Foundation
(It applies to clandestine operations for espionage, and for a clandestine phase prior to direct action (DA) or unconventional warfare (UW). Clandestine HUMINT sources may also act as local guides for special reconnaissance (SR).)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad
10 April 2018 18:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_station
" A numbers station is a shortwave radio station characterized by broadcasts of formatted numbers, which are believed to be addressed to intelligence officers operating in foreign countries.[1] Most identified stations use speech synthesis to vocalize numbers, although digital modes such as phase-shift keying and frequency-shift keying, as well as Morse code transmissions, are not uncommon. Most stations have set time schedules, or schedule patterns; however, other stations appear to broadcast at random times. Stations may or may not have set frequencies in the HF band
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"The best-known of the numbers stations was the E03 "Lincolnshire Poacher",[10] which is thought to have been run by the British Secret Intelligence Service.[11] It was first broadcast from Bletchley Park in the mid-1970s but later was broadcast from RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus.
In 2001 the United States tried the Cuban Five on the charge of spying for Cuba. That group had received and decoded messages that had been broadcast from Cuban numbers stations.[12] Also in 2001, Ana Belen Montes, a senior US Defense Intelligence Agency analyst, was arrested and charged with espionage. The federal prosecutors alleged that Montes was able to communicate with the Cuban Intelligence Directorate through encoded messages, with instructions being received through "encrypted shortwave transmissions from Cuba". In 2006, Carlos Alvarez and his wife, Elsa, were arrested and charged with espionage. The U.S. District Court Florida stated that "defendants would receive assignments via shortwave radio transmissions".
In June 2009, the United States similarly charged Walter Kendall Myers with conspiracy to spy for Cuba, and receiving and decoding messages broadcast from a numbers station operated by the Cuban Intelligence Directorate to further that conspiracy.[13][14]
It has been reported that the United States used numbers stations to communicate encoded information to persons in other countries.[12] There are also claims that State Department operated stations, such as KKN50 and KKN44, used to broadcast similar "numbers" messages or related traffic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincolnshire_Poacher_(numbers_station)
Helms, Harry L. (1981). "Government and Military Communications". How to Tune the Secret Shortwave Spectrum. Blue Ridge Summit, PA: TAB Books Inc. p. 58. ISBN 0-8306-1185-1.
Schimmel, Donald W. (1994). The Underground Frequency Guide: A Directory of Unusual, Illegal, and Covert Radio Communications (3 ed.). Solana Beach, California: High Text Publications, Inc. pp. 88–95. ISBN 1-878707-17-5.
" A numbers station is a shortwave radio station characterized by broadcasts of formatted numbers, which are believed to be addressed to intelligence officers operating in foreign countries.[1] Most identified stations use speech synthesis to vocalize numbers, although digital modes such as phase-shift keying and frequency-shift keying, as well as Morse code transmissions, are not uncommon. Most stations have set time schedules, or schedule patterns; however, other stations appear to broadcast at random times. Stations may or may not have set frequencies in the HF band
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"The best-known of the numbers stations was the E03 "Lincolnshire Poacher",[10] which is thought to have been run by the British Secret Intelligence Service.[11] It was first broadcast from Bletchley Park in the mid-1970s but later was broadcast from RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus.
In 2001 the United States tried the Cuban Five on the charge of spying for Cuba. That group had received and decoded messages that had been broadcast from Cuban numbers stations.[12] Also in 2001, Ana Belen Montes, a senior US Defense Intelligence Agency analyst, was arrested and charged with espionage. The federal prosecutors alleged that Montes was able to communicate with the Cuban Intelligence Directorate through encoded messages, with instructions being received through "encrypted shortwave transmissions from Cuba". In 2006, Carlos Alvarez and his wife, Elsa, were arrested and charged with espionage. The U.S. District Court Florida stated that "defendants would receive assignments via shortwave radio transmissions".
In June 2009, the United States similarly charged Walter Kendall Myers with conspiracy to spy for Cuba, and receiving and decoding messages broadcast from a numbers station operated by the Cuban Intelligence Directorate to further that conspiracy.[13][14]
It has been reported that the United States used numbers stations to communicate encoded information to persons in other countries.[12] There are also claims that State Department operated stations, such as KKN50 and KKN44, used to broadcast similar "numbers" messages or related traffic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincolnshire_Poacher_(numbers_station)
Helms, Harry L. (1981). "Government and Military Communications". How to Tune the Secret Shortwave Spectrum. Blue Ridge Summit, PA: TAB Books Inc. p. 58. ISBN 0-8306-1185-1.
Schimmel, Donald W. (1994). The Underground Frequency Guide: A Directory of Unusual, Illegal, and Covert Radio Communications (3 ed.). Solana Beach, California: High Text Publications, Inc. pp. 88–95. ISBN 1-878707-17-5.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_station
10 April 2018 18:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" DX communication is communication over large or relatively uncommon distances. On the UHF or VHF bands which are typically used for short range or line of sight communications, DX may represent communication with stations 50 or 100 miles away. The UHF and microwave bands have also been used to accomplish Earth–Moon–Earth communication between stations worldwide.[8] On the low frequency bands (30 to 300 kHz), contacts between stations separated by more than 100 miles are often considered DX.[9]
Among amateur radio operators and shortwave listeners, most traditional DX communication occurs on the HF bands, where the ionosphere is used to refract the transmitted radio beam. The beam returns to the Earth's surface, and may then be reflected back into the ionosphere for a second bounce. Ionospheric refraction is generally only feasible for frequencies below about 50 MHz, and is highly dependent upon atmospheric conditions, the time of day, and the eleven-year sunspot cycle. It is also affected by solar storms and some other solar events, which can alter the Earth's ionosphere by ejecting a shower of charged particles.
The angle of refraction places a minimum on the distance at which the refracted beam will first return to Earth. This distance increases with frequency. As a result, any station employing DX will be surrounded by an annular dead zone where they can't hear other stations or be heard by them.
This is the phenomenon that allows short wave radio reception to occur beyond the limits of line of sight. It is utilized by amateur radio enthusiasts (hams), shortwave broadcast stations (such as BBC and Voice of America) and others, and is what allows one to hear AM (MW) stations from areas far from their location. It is one of the backups to failure of long distance communication by satellites, when their operation is affected by electromagnetic storms from the sun.
For example, in clear ionosphere conditions, one can hear France Inter on 711 kHz, far into the UK and as far as Reading, Berkshire. It is also possible to hear Radio Australia from Melbourne as far away as Lansing, Michigan, a distance of some 9835 miles (15,827 kilometers).
Among amateur radio operators and shortwave listeners, most traditional DX communication occurs on the HF bands, where the ionosphere is used to refract the transmitted radio beam. The beam returns to the Earth's surface, and may then be reflected back into the ionosphere for a second bounce. Ionospheric refraction is generally only feasible for frequencies below about 50 MHz, and is highly dependent upon atmospheric conditions, the time of day, and the eleven-year sunspot cycle. It is also affected by solar storms and some other solar events, which can alter the Earth's ionosphere by ejecting a shower of charged particles.
The angle of refraction places a minimum on the distance at which the refracted beam will first return to Earth. This distance increases with frequency. As a result, any station employing DX will be surrounded by an annular dead zone where they can't hear other stations or be heard by them.
This is the phenomenon that allows short wave radio reception to occur beyond the limits of line of sight. It is utilized by amateur radio enthusiasts (hams), shortwave broadcast stations (such as BBC and Voice of America) and others, and is what allows one to hear AM (MW) stations from areas far from their location. It is one of the backups to failure of long distance communication by satellites, when their operation is affected by electromagnetic storms from the sun.
For example, in clear ionosphere conditions, one can hear France Inter on 711 kHz, far into the UK and as far as Reading, Berkshire. It is also possible to hear Radio Australia from Melbourne as far away as Lansing, Michigan, a distance of some 9835 miles (15,827 kilometers).
10 April 2018 18:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// education basic thread // backround, common
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DXing
"DXing is the hobby of receiving and identifying distant radio or television signals, or making two way radio contact with distant stations in amateur radio, citizens' band radio or other two way radio communications. Many DXers also attempt to obtain written verifications of reception or contact, sometimes referred to as "QSLs" or "veries". The name of the hobby comes from DX, telegraphic shorthand for "distance" or "distant" "
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Especially during wartime and times of conflict, reception of international broadcasters, whose signals propagate around the world on the shortwave bands has been popular with both casual listeners and DXing hobbyists.
With the rise in popularity of streaming audio over the internet, many international broadcasters (including the BBC and Voice of America) have cut back on their shortwave broadcasts. Missionary Religious broadcasters still make extensive use of shortwave radio to reach less developed countries around the world.
In addition to international broadcasters, the shortwave bands also are home to military communications, RTTY, amateur radio, pirate radio, and the mysterious broadcasts of numbers stations. Many of these signals are transmitted in single side band mode, which requires the use of specialized receivers more suitable to DXing than to casual listening
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Though sporadic in nature, signals on the FM broadcast and VHF television bands - especially those stations at the lower end of these bands - can "skip" for hundreds, even thousands of miles. North American FM stations have been received in Western Europe three times, though no reports exist of European FM signals being received in Canada or the US.[citation needed]
Police, fire, and military communications on the VHF bands are also DX'ed to some extent on multi-band radio scanners, though they are mainly listened to strictly on a local basis. One difficulty is in identifying the exact origins of communications of this nature, as opposed to commercial broadcasters which must identify themselves at the top of each hour, and can often be identified through mentions of sponsors, slogans, etc. throughout their programming.
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In addition, many clubs offer awards for communicating with a certain number of DX stations. For example, the ARRL offers the DX Century Club award, or DXCC. The basic certificate is awarded for working and confirming at least 100 entities on the ARRL DXCC List.[7] For award purposes, other areas than just political countries can be classified as "DX countries". For example, the French territory of Reunion Island in the Indian Ocean is counted as a DX country, even though it is a region of France. The rules for determining what is a DX country can be quite complex and to avoid potential confusion, radio amateurs often use the term entity instead of country. In addition to entities, some awards are based on island groups in the world's oceans. On the VHF/UHF bands, many radio amateurs pursue awards based on Maidenhead grid locators.
In order to give other amateurs a chance to confirm contacts at new or exotic locations, amateurs have mounted DXpeditions to countries or regions that have no permanent base of amateur radio operators.[6] There are also frequent contests where radio amateurs operate their stations on certain dates for a fixed period of time to try to communicate with as many DX stations as possible.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DXpedition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Radio_Relay_League
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DX_Century_Club
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DXCC
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One of the interesting sides of DXing as a hobby is collecting QSL cards (acknowledgement cards from the broadcaster) confirming the listener's reception report (sometimes called SINPO report, see next section).
Usually a QSL card will have a picture on one side and the reception data on the other. Most of the broadcasters will use pictures and messages indicating their country's culture or technological life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DXing
"DXing is the hobby of receiving and identifying distant radio or television signals, or making two way radio contact with distant stations in amateur radio, citizens' band radio or other two way radio communications. Many DXers also attempt to obtain written verifications of reception or contact, sometimes referred to as "QSLs" or "veries". The name of the hobby comes from DX, telegraphic shorthand for "distance" or "distant" "
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Especially during wartime and times of conflict, reception of international broadcasters, whose signals propagate around the world on the shortwave bands has been popular with both casual listeners and DXing hobbyists.
With the rise in popularity of streaming audio over the internet, many international broadcasters (including the BBC and Voice of America) have cut back on their shortwave broadcasts. Missionary Religious broadcasters still make extensive use of shortwave radio to reach less developed countries around the world.
In addition to international broadcasters, the shortwave bands also are home to military communications, RTTY, amateur radio, pirate radio, and the mysterious broadcasts of numbers stations. Many of these signals are transmitted in single side band mode, which requires the use of specialized receivers more suitable to DXing than to casual listening
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Though sporadic in nature, signals on the FM broadcast and VHF television bands - especially those stations at the lower end of these bands - can "skip" for hundreds, even thousands of miles. North American FM stations have been received in Western Europe three times, though no reports exist of European FM signals being received in Canada or the US.[citation needed]
Police, fire, and military communications on the VHF bands are also DX'ed to some extent on multi-band radio scanners, though they are mainly listened to strictly on a local basis. One difficulty is in identifying the exact origins of communications of this nature, as opposed to commercial broadcasters which must identify themselves at the top of each hour, and can often be identified through mentions of sponsors, slogans, etc. throughout their programming.
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In addition, many clubs offer awards for communicating with a certain number of DX stations. For example, the ARRL offers the DX Century Club award, or DXCC. The basic certificate is awarded for working and confirming at least 100 entities on the ARRL DXCC List.[7] For award purposes, other areas than just political countries can be classified as "DX countries". For example, the French territory of Reunion Island in the Indian Ocean is counted as a DX country, even though it is a region of France. The rules for determining what is a DX country can be quite complex and to avoid potential confusion, radio amateurs often use the term entity instead of country. In addition to entities, some awards are based on island groups in the world's oceans. On the VHF/UHF bands, many radio amateurs pursue awards based on Maidenhead grid locators.
In order to give other amateurs a chance to confirm contacts at new or exotic locations, amateurs have mounted DXpeditions to countries or regions that have no permanent base of amateur radio operators.[6] There are also frequent contests where radio amateurs operate their stations on certain dates for a fixed period of time to try to communicate with as many DX stations as possible.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DXpedition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Radio_Relay_League
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DX_Century_Club
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DXCC
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One of the interesting sides of DXing as a hobby is collecting QSL cards (acknowledgement cards from the broadcaster) confirming the listener's reception report (sometimes called SINPO report, see next section).
Usually a QSL card will have a picture on one side and the reception data on the other. Most of the broadcasters will use pictures and messages indicating their country's culture or technological life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DXing
10 April 2018 18:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pip
"The Pip is the nickname given by radio listeners to a shortwave radio station that broadcasts on the frequency 5448 kHz by day, and 3756 kHz during the night.[1][2] It broadcasts short, repeated beeps at a rate of around 50 per minute, for 24 hours per day. The beep signal is occasionally interrupted for voice messages in Russian. The Pip has been active since around 1986, when its distinctive beeping sound was first recorded by listeners."
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While its official name or callsign is not known, some of the voice transmissions begin with the code 8S1Shch (Cyrillic: 8С1Щ), which is generally considered to be the name of the station. However, this code may not be a callsign, but instead serve some other purpose. Radioscanner.ru identifies the owner of this station as a North-Caucasian military district communication center with callsign "Akacia" (ex-72nd communication center, Russian "72 узел связи штаба СКВО")
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The purpose of The Pip is not known, although there are many theories. It is often suggested that The Pip is part of a larger radio relay or control system, which also includes The Buzzer and The Squeaky Wheel, which both follow similar formats. In particular, activity on The Pip often used to be followed a few minutes later by a voice message on The Squeaky Wheel, suggesting that both are operated by the same organization and share the same purpose.[2] On one occasion, The Pip's characteristic beeping sound could be heard in the background while a message was being transmitted on the Squeaky Wheel's frequency, which may indicate that both stations are even operated from within the same building or room.[5] However, these activities have since ceased. Later tables of received messages no longer show such parallels.
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"The Pip is the nickname given by radio listeners to a shortwave radio station that broadcasts on the frequency 5448 kHz by day, and 3756 kHz during the night.[1][2] It broadcasts short, repeated beeps at a rate of around 50 per minute, for 24 hours per day. The beep signal is occasionally interrupted for voice messages in Russian. The Pip has been active since around 1986, when its distinctive beeping sound was first recorded by listeners."
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While its official name or callsign is not known, some of the voice transmissions begin with the code 8S1Shch (Cyrillic: 8С1Щ), which is generally considered to be the name of the station. However, this code may not be a callsign, but instead serve some other purpose. Radioscanner.ru identifies the owner of this station as a North-Caucasian military district communication center with callsign "Akacia" (ex-72nd communication center, Russian "72 узел связи штаба СКВО")
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The purpose of The Pip is not known, although there are many theories. It is often suggested that The Pip is part of a larger radio relay or control system, which also includes The Buzzer and The Squeaky Wheel, which both follow similar formats. In particular, activity on The Pip often used to be followed a few minutes later by a voice message on The Squeaky Wheel, suggesting that both are operated by the same organization and share the same purpose.[2] On one occasion, The Pip's characteristic beeping sound could be heard in the background while a message was being transmitted on the Squeaky Wheel's frequency, which may indicate that both stations are even operated from within the same building or room.[5] However, these activities have since ceased. Later tables of received messages no longer show such parallels.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pip
10 April 2018 18:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Anyway, it's a kind of hack, it seems Google doesn't want us to share those videos outside G+."
What kind of normal company would do that...
What kind of normal company would do that...
10 April 2018 17:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Google is doing many other strange things to kill of their products usages and potential,
making the google plus usage as impossible and uncomfortable (in purpose) as possible, so that the communisty would be self closing and soon as they can make new stats for low usage, can turn it off as well,
as it was for them not for public usage anyway.. and not for the purpose as FB
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7474738/how-to-embed-video-from-google-plus
making the google plus usage as impossible and uncomfortable (in purpose) as possible, so that the communisty would be self closing and soon as they can make new stats for low usage, can turn it off as well,
as it was for them not for public usage anyway.. and not for the purpose as FB
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7474738/how-to-embed-video-from-google-plus
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7474738/how-to-embed-video-from-google-plus
10 April 2018 17:55
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
True that
10 April 2018 17:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lol remember when anarchist rebel blinded by communist propacanda attacked me with faceheadpump when am was standing for Queens rights :D: :D :D
10 April 2018 17:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
current king harry is merry'ng with no pure blood who is product of communist Little Red USA private liberal school.. like no one notices the battern and project for control...
lets hope Queen is able to ... her team will be able to do much great before she will transcend to another places from where to look after
lets hope Queen is able to ... her team will be able to do much great before she will transcend to another places from where to look after
10 April 2018 17:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
where.. was this our camp aria in woods.. where guys's give me black-blue sleeping bag.. in this field.. was historic place where corrorate crooks forced kings to final surrender...
in UK as am understood
just can not find the field name on my memory..
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can help with that?
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Now kings are without beards and wear a tie.. what a joke!
in UK as am understood
just can not find the field name on my memory..
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can help with that?
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Now kings are without beards and wear a tie.. what a joke!
10 April 2018 17:22
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
If we would have kingdoms, or royal rule, monarchs then happiness would be elementary that is wished to get
as owners of kingdoms benefit when they'r own land is doing well, in all levels from intelligence to health.
But most people is even UK was so dumbed, by people with ties, by communist propaganda, that the run after democracy (product of slave empire greek-roman unionilists..)
People them self rise up to give power to crooks.. instead trusting proper ones.. and protecting proper ones ... but they let rulers to start to dress as freeks, act as aliens and .. in the end to be slaved as them self, the people
as owners of kingdoms benefit when they'r own land is doing well, in all levels from intelligence to health.
But most people is even UK was so dumbed, by people with ties, by communist propaganda, that the run after democracy (product of slave empire greek-roman unionilists..)
People them self rise up to give power to crooks.. instead trusting proper ones.. and protecting proper ones ... but they let rulers to start to dress as freeks, act as aliens and .. in the end to be slaved as them self, the people
10 April 2018 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Video:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214718420850887/?type=2&theater¬if_t=video_processed¬if_id=1523368889437828
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh7OyhHzmVQ
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214718420850887/?type=2&theater¬if_t=video_processed¬if_id=1523368889437828
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh7OyhHzmVQ
10 April 2018 17:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
asjad siiani säääl kui neid äää pole viiidud..
10 April 2018 16:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Selle Naise Songiga kokku pidin juhatama..
10 April 2018 16:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
kahjuks mitu suurt kohvreid kirjadust jäi maha...
10 April 2018 16:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(pilt inglismaal kus käpärasega tulema sain aint läbi ime)
10 April 2018 16:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
kõik pildil leitud, saadud, see tekk mul siiani kasutuses.. praegu voodis..
10 April 2018 16:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
oeh minu imeline suupoill. see on see üks suurim kahju, et see jäi inglismaale.. peteti endale ühe näpupoisi polt kelle hing oli vanast Kaini pere impeeriumi kõrgematest sektoristest kes selel vana iidse sala wiiikingi suupilli endale soovis ...selle .. jah ...see mis see sai teha..
10 April 2018 16:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
rist väliskukse sulgmeiseks.. sümboolne ka
10 April 2018 16:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
enamus prahist oli enne, ple mu oma
10 April 2018 16:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
see siis jah kirikus, altari peal..
all magada eip oleks sääl söendanutki .. mine tea mis rituaale teha oleks tahetud :P
all magada eip oleks sääl söendanutki .. mine tea mis rituaale teha oleks tahetud :P
10 April 2018 16:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Märge: Suutsin nii valge särgiga, ILMA pesemisvõimalusteta, tänaval ja mahjäetud majade põrandatel madades ..
10 April 2018 16:44
Margus Meigo commented on Brendon Culliton's live video.
You Wellcomed!
10 April 2018 16:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
at times only place to be allowed to make hints to general public are by methods of pop media, movies and video games:
"" The Ukrainian-developed computer game S.T.A.L.K.E.R. has a plot focused on the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant and the nuclear accident there. The game heavily features actual locations in the area, including the Duga-1 array. The array itself appears in S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Clear Sky in the fictional city of Limansk-13. While the 'Brain Scorcher' from S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl was inspired by theories that Duga-1 was used for mind control, it does not take the form of the real array.
Markiyan Kamysh's novel about illegal trips to the Duga, A Stroll to the Zone, was praised by reviewers as the most interesting literature debut of 2015 in Ukraine. The novel has been translated into French (with the title La Zone), and was published by French publishing house Arthaud (Groupe Flammarion).
In Call of Duty: Black Ops, the map "Grid" is placed in Pripyat near the DUGA-1 array.
In the movie Divergent, the fence around Chicago is derived from photographs of the Duga-1 array. " "
La Froza Zone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duga_radar#/media/File:Duga_radar_station_within_the_Chernobyl_Exclusion_Zone,_Ukraine_(09).JPG
"" The Ukrainian-developed computer game S.T.A.L.K.E.R. has a plot focused on the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant and the nuclear accident there. The game heavily features actual locations in the area, including the Duga-1 array. The array itself appears in S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Clear Sky in the fictional city of Limansk-13. While the 'Brain Scorcher' from S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl was inspired by theories that Duga-1 was used for mind control, it does not take the form of the real array.
Markiyan Kamysh's novel about illegal trips to the Duga, A Stroll to the Zone, was praised by reviewers as the most interesting literature debut of 2015 in Ukraine. The novel has been translated into French (with the title La Zone), and was published by French publishing house Arthaud (Groupe Flammarion).
In Call of Duty: Black Ops, the map "Grid" is placed in Pripyat near the DUGA-1 array.
In the movie Divergent, the fence around Chicago is derived from photographs of the Duga-1 array. " "
La Froza Zone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duga_radar#/media/File:Duga_radar_station_within_the_Chernobyl_Exclusion_Zone,_Ukraine_(09).JPG
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duga_radar#/media/File:Duga_radar_station_within_the_Chernobyl_Exclusion_Zone,_Ukraine_(09).JPG
10 April 2018 16:32
Margus Meigo commented on Brendon Culliton's live video.
10 April 2018 16:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
POST N422
interesting, point thrread // around what to lok
Coming up:
3828 kHz (night); 5473 kHz (day); First air date 2000
priyom.org/military-stations/russia/the-squeaky-wheel.aspx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Squeaky_Wheel
www.numbers-stations.com/military/russia/the-squeaky-wheel/
Affiliations; Russian Armed Forces (unconfirmed..)
The Enigma designation is S32 with S indicating Slavic language. However, from 2000 to 2005 it was designated XSW when voice on the station was unknown
Other frequencies observed are 3650 kHz, 3815 kHz, 5474 kHz, and 5641 kHz
Sister stations The Buzzer, The Pip
interesting, point thrread // around what to lok
Coming up:
3828 kHz (night); 5473 kHz (day); First air date 2000
priyom.org/military-stations/russia/the-squeaky-wheel.aspx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Squeaky_Wheel
www.numbers-stations.com/military/russia/the-squeaky-wheel/
Affiliations; Russian Armed Forces (unconfirmed..)
The Enigma designation is S32 with S indicating Slavic language. However, from 2000 to 2005 it was designated XSW when voice on the station was unknown
Other frequencies observed are 3650 kHz, 3815 kHz, 5474 kHz, and 5641 kHz
Sister stations The Buzzer, The Pip
http://priyom.org/military-stations/russia/the-squeaky-wheel.aspx
10 April 2018 16:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vs:
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aab. Kuna sa väidad, et oled füüsik, milles mina isiklikult küll sügavalt kahtlen, siis ei tohiks sul olla probleemi analoogse katse tegemiseks ja ka meile tulemuste avaldamine ei tohiks olla probleem.
Kuna ja kuidas plaanid katse ellu viia?
PS: Massiliselt kuulatakse ka igasuguste sektide uskumatult lolli hülgemöla. On ka see massiline lolliksminek?
Kas on keeruline veidi mõelda ja püüda aru saada lihtsatest asjadest. Elavhõbe oli on ja jääb müüdiks. Ei imesta kui sa kunagi ka punase elavhõbedaga püüdsid äri teha. Kurb, et oma enese mõistust ei kasutata.
PS: Üks elavhõbeda müüt tekkis 1970 nendatel ühest prantsuse filmist kus õpetaja pritsis elavhõbedat pariisi majade plekkkatustele ja tänu sellele kadus levi ning lapsed olid tunnis ärksad. Filmi nime kahjuks ei mäleta.
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See elavhõbeda-antenni jutt on minu meelest veidi müütiline küll.
Antennidel on ju peale suunavate "torude" ka dipool, U-aas ja kaablid...
Oma rumaluses olen alati mõelnud et vasktorudesse pandi siis elavhõbe, samas on teada see et lained liiguvad ju ikkagi torude pinnal.Ja torude läbimõõt on ka tähtis, kraadiklaasil lausa mingi paar millimeetrit.
Loogika ütleb ka seda et kui süsteem on nii hea, siis miks pole seda kommertsis ära kasutatud, elavhõbeda hind ei tohiks ju nii suur olla.Nii et põnevaid küsitavusi on, keegi tehnikaspets(Hugoth?) võiks veidi lähemalt kommenteerida
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Väidetavalt oli elavhõbeda-antennist esmakordselt
kirjutatud ühes tolleaegse Saksa DV mingi ajakirja
aprillinumbris. Autoriks keegi L. Irpa või siis L. Lirpa
(loe tagurpidi). Mõnekuulise hilinemisega ilmus selle
artikli tõlge ka siinmail ja nii see algas... Katsetajaid
leidus, kindlasti sattusid mõnedki proovijad sellele
perioodile (neid on igal aastal mitu), kus mitu päeva
ülilevi oli ja see lisas legendile omad värvid. Kujutage
ette katsetajate vaimustust kui välismaa telekanaleid
ekraanil näha sai (oleks need ka ilma elevhõbedata ju
näha olnud, aga ega siis enam võrrelda aega polnud)...
Eespool on kirjutatud ka mõnedest "kõrvalnähtustest",
millel pole enam elavhõbedaga seost. "
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""Oli omal kunagi hea autoraadio mis Tartus Sõpruse sillal Soome UKVd mängis, autoantenniga. Jõe kohal oli levi. Maja katusel oleva raamantenniga oli Soome UKV igapäevane.
Ülileviga, lihtantenniga, kaugeim minul nähtud telejaam on RAI1 märgiga, Itaalia.""
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"RAI1 ülileviga (loe peegeldusega,kuna maakera kumerus jääb ette,et oleks arusaadavam siin) oli ka Viljandis "tavanähtus" meeterlainel,detsimeetril Rootsi.
Mäletan,kui elavhõbedaga sai katsetusi tehtud,valasime meeterlaine dipoli elavhõbedat täis,x kontakte sai nii ja naa ühendatud ja proovitud,lõpuks elavhõbe tuli igast jootest läbi (reageeris vase ja tinaga) ning asi võttis väga mürgise pöörde,sest teadagi on elavhõbe mürgine ning loobusime,sest sel moel ei andnud mingeid lisatulemusi ülikaugvastuvõtu osas meeterlainel.Detsimeetrit polnud mõtet proovidagi,teadagi,et mida kõrgem sagedus,seda sirgjoonelisemalt levib.
Sai ka plastikust dipol tehtud Yagile ja elevhõbedat täis valatud ning muid vigureid kuid tulemus oli 0 . "
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" Elavhõbeda antenn oli tõesti põnev teema Soome tv vastuvõtul,omalajal,proovisime ehitada töökaaslasest füüsikuga(tema idee oli algselt),kuid katsetused jäid tulemusteta,et kellegile raadiohäireid tekitasime,on küsitav,kuigi naabrimutt oli pühaviha täis,et ei saavat enam Ameerika Häält raadiost kuulataSmile "
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aab. Kuna sa väidad, et oled füüsik, milles mina isiklikult küll sügavalt kahtlen, siis ei tohiks sul olla probleemi analoogse katse tegemiseks ja ka meile tulemuste avaldamine ei tohiks olla probleem.
Kuna ja kuidas plaanid katse ellu viia?
PS: Massiliselt kuulatakse ka igasuguste sektide uskumatult lolli hülgemöla. On ka see massiline lolliksminek?
Kas on keeruline veidi mõelda ja püüda aru saada lihtsatest asjadest. Elavhõbe oli on ja jääb müüdiks. Ei imesta kui sa kunagi ka punase elavhõbedaga püüdsid äri teha. Kurb, et oma enese mõistust ei kasutata.
PS: Üks elavhõbeda müüt tekkis 1970 nendatel ühest prantsuse filmist kus õpetaja pritsis elavhõbedat pariisi majade plekkkatustele ja tänu sellele kadus levi ning lapsed olid tunnis ärksad. Filmi nime kahjuks ei mäleta.
--------------------
See elavhõbeda-antenni jutt on minu meelest veidi müütiline küll.
Antennidel on ju peale suunavate "torude" ka dipool, U-aas ja kaablid...
Oma rumaluses olen alati mõelnud et vasktorudesse pandi siis elavhõbe, samas on teada see et lained liiguvad ju ikkagi torude pinnal.Ja torude läbimõõt on ka tähtis, kraadiklaasil lausa mingi paar millimeetrit.
Loogika ütleb ka seda et kui süsteem on nii hea, siis miks pole seda kommertsis ära kasutatud, elavhõbeda hind ei tohiks ju nii suur olla.Nii et põnevaid küsitavusi on, keegi tehnikaspets(Hugoth?) võiks veidi lähemalt kommenteerida
---
Väidetavalt oli elavhõbeda-antennist esmakordselt
kirjutatud ühes tolleaegse Saksa DV mingi ajakirja
aprillinumbris. Autoriks keegi L. Irpa või siis L. Lirpa
(loe tagurpidi). Mõnekuulise hilinemisega ilmus selle
artikli tõlge ka siinmail ja nii see algas... Katsetajaid
leidus, kindlasti sattusid mõnedki proovijad sellele
perioodile (neid on igal aastal mitu), kus mitu päeva
ülilevi oli ja see lisas legendile omad värvid. Kujutage
ette katsetajate vaimustust kui välismaa telekanaleid
ekraanil näha sai (oleks need ka ilma elevhõbedata ju
näha olnud, aga ega siis enam võrrelda aega polnud)...
Eespool on kirjutatud ka mõnedest "kõrvalnähtustest",
millel pole enam elavhõbedaga seost. "
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""Oli omal kunagi hea autoraadio mis Tartus Sõpruse sillal Soome UKVd mängis, autoantenniga. Jõe kohal oli levi. Maja katusel oleva raamantenniga oli Soome UKV igapäevane.
Ülileviga, lihtantenniga, kaugeim minul nähtud telejaam on RAI1 märgiga, Itaalia.""
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"RAI1 ülileviga (loe peegeldusega,kuna maakera kumerus jääb ette,et oleks arusaadavam siin) oli ka Viljandis "tavanähtus" meeterlainel,detsimeetril Rootsi.
Mäletan,kui elavhõbedaga sai katsetusi tehtud,valasime meeterlaine dipoli elavhõbedat täis,x kontakte sai nii ja naa ühendatud ja proovitud,lõpuks elavhõbe tuli igast jootest läbi (reageeris vase ja tinaga) ning asi võttis väga mürgise pöörde,sest teadagi on elavhõbe mürgine ning loobusime,sest sel moel ei andnud mingeid lisatulemusi ülikaugvastuvõtu osas meeterlainel.Detsimeetrit polnud mõtet proovidagi,teadagi,et mida kõrgem sagedus,seda sirgjoonelisemalt levib.
Sai ka plastikust dipol tehtud Yagile ja elevhõbedat täis valatud ning muid vigureid kuid tulemus oli 0 . "
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" Elavhõbeda antenn oli tõesti põnev teema Soome tv vastuvõtul,omalajal,proovisime ehitada töökaaslasest füüsikuga(tema idee oli algselt),kuid katsetused jäid tulemusteta,et kellegile raadiohäireid tekitasime,on küsitav,kuigi naabrimutt oli pühaviha täis,et ei saavat enam Ameerika Häält raadiost kuulataSmile "
10 April 2018 16:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Arutlusi palju kahes põhi suunas: Seda pole olemas,
See on olemas väga kõrgetes tasemetes
ja siis vahepeal veel "nu midagi nagu ooli vaatasime, rpoovisime:"
Noppeid: #elavHõbeAtenn topic:
"SEll teemal sai siin kunagi kirjutatud. 1967a. sai seda antenni proovitud ja erilist efekti ta küll meile ei andnud. Meil oli telekas rekord ja niipalju tegi küll,et sellajal kui telekas töötas oli kohaliku sõjaväe lokaatorid lukus......Nende ekraanil ainult must auk..... Hiljem kasutasime pronksi puruja laaste ja effekt oli sama sest elavhõbe oli raske ja teda oli vileta kasutada. Põhjus oli selles, et teleka oss kiirgas ligi 1volt antenni kaudu välja ja antenn kordistas selle laias spektris uuesti välja. ....Naabrid nägid ikka endiselt pilti....mingit äravõtmist ei toimunud. Pärast toodi koperdaja ruuporantenniga kohale nn segajat püüdma aga me nägime neid enne ja tõmbasime juhtme seinast välja. Hiljem lõikasid soldatid terves külas sellise kujuga antennid maha....ja kellelegi polnud kaevata. Lõbus aeg oli......
Lasime lennukid startida ja meil oli alati teada kaua nad lendasid . Enne maandumist panime oma teleka käima ja praadisime neid seal õhus jupp aega. Kui viimane kütus veel paagis oli siis tõmbasime teleka seinast välja ja kontrollvastuvõtjast tuli raske ohe et nüüd oleme pääsenud....Hiljem lõpetasime need eksperimendid ära.... "
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Kuna tolleaegne telekas töötas meeterlainel siis ,see oli see nagu minisaatja ja kuna antennil oli võimendust üsna palju, levis signaal kaugele. Antudjuhul ligi kolm kilomeetrit. Paljalt kraadiklaaside paigutamine ei tee midagi, see on naljategemine. Asi pole mitte antenni pindalas vaid antenni võimendusteguris.....
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"Mis aga teemasse puutub siis sai kasutatud 4x 22 elemendilist suundantenni ja Soome tuli Ida Virumaal tükati. Kohtla Järve mitmekorruseliste majade Soome vaatamise ärahoidmiseks oli isegi ette nähtud pangale traatvõrgu ettetõmbamine aga ilmselt see segas ka oma radareid nii et jäi ära. Lahendused tegeleb jätkuvalt keelatud teemadega teaduses, ega sulle koju kiri pole tulnud, et kokkulepe mitte tegeleda gravimootoritega on jätkuvalt kehtiv. Seda teemat ju ei rahastata kuna võib farmerite laevaliiklusele tekitada korvamatut kahju nii nagu esimesed radarid taldrikuid alla kukutasid ameerikas Rossvellis. "
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"Selle soome tv vaatamisega oli nii ja naa , see sõltus rangelt vaataja elukohast. //
....Samuti mõjutas seda veel atmosfääri seisund ja päikese olek.....Kohtla järvel kasutasite DM antenni ja seal oli levi teistsugune ja sõltus levitingimustest rohkem.
See et raadiolampides elavhõbedat on , see on täielik luulu. Seda on päevavalguslampides.....ja neid ei kasutanud keegi antennielementideks.
See et naabrinaine ei saanud lühilainel ameerika häält kuulata oli õige, sest see nn elavhõbeantenn kiirgas kordistatud sagedust laias spektris....praktiliselt terve astmiku ulatuses... Huvitavaid kommentaare on siin......HI.! "
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Klassikalise elektromagnetismi ja antennide teooria abil ei saa elavhõbeda antennile selgitust otsida, ilmselt on tegu mingi senitundmatu efektiga.
Antenni valemites ei oma metall erilist tähtsust, pigem omavad geomeetrilised tegurid nagu diipoli pikkus ja arv tähtsust - antennis kasutatava metalli omadused leiavad kajastamist vaid elektrijuhtivuse näol, millest tuleneb järjestus: hõbe, vask, alumiinium, raud, jne.
Üks võimalik teoreetiline lähenemine oleks piesoelektrilise kristalli "pööratavuse" analoogia: kui piesokristallist lasta läbi vahelduvvoolu, siis hakkab ta kõlarina helilaineid tootma - kui aga piesokristall panna helilainete abil võnkuma, hakkab ta mikrofonina nõrka vahelduvvoolu tootma - sarnaselt võiks eeldada, et antennis muutuvad eletrilised võnkumised mingil määral mehaanilisteks võnkumisteks - elektrilistel ja mehaanilistel võnkumistel on aga resonantsi/võimenduse olemus täiesti erinev - siin võib peituda "vedela" elavhõbeda eelis "tahke" alumiiniumi ja raua ees, st vedel elavhõbe hakkab kergemini mehaaniliselt võnkuma, ning võib teatud tingimustes (kraadiklaasi kuju) kergesti resonantsi minna - mehaanilisest võnkumistest resonantsi läinud elavhõbeda võnkumised kanduvad aga üle elektrilisteks võnkumisteks, nagu piesokristalli juures on - kõik see on vaid idee/teooria, mis põhineb "vedela metalli" eelistel tahke metalli ees antenni seisukohast lähtudes.
Kraadiklaasi saagimisest palju lihtsam oleks olnud vastava pikkusega vasktraat valmis lõigata - kuna aga massiliselt mindi palju keerukamat teed, siis võiks eeldada millegi muu olemasolu: linnatäis inimesi ei saa korraga lolliks minna, nagu Tallinnas ENSV ajal juhtus elavhõbeda antenniga seoses.
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gatahes raadiolainete kiirgumist ja levi kirjeldavates valemites on "väikesed parandustegurid", mille tõttu on antenni vahetus läheduses (suurusjärk millimeeter kuni sentimeeter) levi olemus veidi muutunud (tavalise 1/raadiusega asemel on 1/raadiuse ruuduga tegurid mis raadiuse kasvades sumbuvad väga kiiresti ruutfunktsiooni alusel) - kuid sadade meetrite kaugusel (naabrite rikutud levi) ja kilomeetrite kaugusel (sõjaväelaste rikutud levi) ei tohiks sellised mõjutused ulatuda.
Juhin tähelepanu sellele, et elektro-gravitatsiooni tööpõhimõttel töötavate lendavate taldrikute (IIMS aegsed Haunebu-d ja nende koopiad võitjariikide sõjalaborites) sees kasutati samuti elavhõbedat pöörleva kontuuri sees, mis uuemate mudelite juures on asendatud vedela tefloniga.
Elektro-gravitatsiooni põhimõttel töötavate lendavate taldrikute liikumise juures on teatav "värin", st nad viiakse reaalsest ruumist korraks astraalsesse ruumi ja tuuakse teise reaalsesse ruumipunkti tagasi, ning elavhõbe tundub olevat selle juures võtmeteguriks.
Seega võiks "elavhõbeda antenni" anomaaliate juures hoida silme ees ka lendavate taldrikute astraalseid värinaid - kuid kõlbaks ka "täiesti maised" selgitused. "
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"Ega siis kõik aprillikuus avaldatud teated pole aprillinaljad - tihti avaldatakse sopalehtedes 1. aprillil teadlikult vabamüürluse ja konksninade olemuse kohta tõeseid kirjutisi: hiljem hea öelda, et me ju sopaleht ja täna 1. aprill, mis te sellisest kooslusest ikka tahete - kuid kirjutiste sisu on ju õige.
Isegi kui elavhõbeda antenni katsetajad said ülilevi hetkel "pildi ette", jääb endiselt mõistatuseks sõjaväe radari ja side tegelaste hädakisa "me ei näe midagi" - seda juba 1. aprilliga ei põhjenda."
See on olemas väga kõrgetes tasemetes
ja siis vahepeal veel "nu midagi nagu ooli vaatasime, rpoovisime:"
Noppeid: #elavHõbeAtenn topic:
"SEll teemal sai siin kunagi kirjutatud. 1967a. sai seda antenni proovitud ja erilist efekti ta küll meile ei andnud. Meil oli telekas rekord ja niipalju tegi küll,et sellajal kui telekas töötas oli kohaliku sõjaväe lokaatorid lukus......Nende ekraanil ainult must auk..... Hiljem kasutasime pronksi puruja laaste ja effekt oli sama sest elavhõbe oli raske ja teda oli vileta kasutada. Põhjus oli selles, et teleka oss kiirgas ligi 1volt antenni kaudu välja ja antenn kordistas selle laias spektris uuesti välja. ....Naabrid nägid ikka endiselt pilti....mingit äravõtmist ei toimunud. Pärast toodi koperdaja ruuporantenniga kohale nn segajat püüdma aga me nägime neid enne ja tõmbasime juhtme seinast välja. Hiljem lõikasid soldatid terves külas sellise kujuga antennid maha....ja kellelegi polnud kaevata. Lõbus aeg oli......
Lasime lennukid startida ja meil oli alati teada kaua nad lendasid . Enne maandumist panime oma teleka käima ja praadisime neid seal õhus jupp aega. Kui viimane kütus veel paagis oli siis tõmbasime teleka seinast välja ja kontrollvastuvõtjast tuli raske ohe et nüüd oleme pääsenud....Hiljem lõpetasime need eksperimendid ära.... "
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Kuna tolleaegne telekas töötas meeterlainel siis ,see oli see nagu minisaatja ja kuna antennil oli võimendust üsna palju, levis signaal kaugele. Antudjuhul ligi kolm kilomeetrit. Paljalt kraadiklaaside paigutamine ei tee midagi, see on naljategemine. Asi pole mitte antenni pindalas vaid antenni võimendusteguris.....
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"Mis aga teemasse puutub siis sai kasutatud 4x 22 elemendilist suundantenni ja Soome tuli Ida Virumaal tükati. Kohtla Järve mitmekorruseliste majade Soome vaatamise ärahoidmiseks oli isegi ette nähtud pangale traatvõrgu ettetõmbamine aga ilmselt see segas ka oma radareid nii et jäi ära. Lahendused tegeleb jätkuvalt keelatud teemadega teaduses, ega sulle koju kiri pole tulnud, et kokkulepe mitte tegeleda gravimootoritega on jätkuvalt kehtiv. Seda teemat ju ei rahastata kuna võib farmerite laevaliiklusele tekitada korvamatut kahju nii nagu esimesed radarid taldrikuid alla kukutasid ameerikas Rossvellis. "
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"Selle soome tv vaatamisega oli nii ja naa , see sõltus rangelt vaataja elukohast. //
....Samuti mõjutas seda veel atmosfääri seisund ja päikese olek.....Kohtla järvel kasutasite DM antenni ja seal oli levi teistsugune ja sõltus levitingimustest rohkem.
See et raadiolampides elavhõbedat on , see on täielik luulu. Seda on päevavalguslampides.....ja neid ei kasutanud keegi antennielementideks.
See et naabrinaine ei saanud lühilainel ameerika häält kuulata oli õige, sest see nn elavhõbeantenn kiirgas kordistatud sagedust laias spektris....praktiliselt terve astmiku ulatuses... Huvitavaid kommentaare on siin......HI.! "
----------
Klassikalise elektromagnetismi ja antennide teooria abil ei saa elavhõbeda antennile selgitust otsida, ilmselt on tegu mingi senitundmatu efektiga.
Antenni valemites ei oma metall erilist tähtsust, pigem omavad geomeetrilised tegurid nagu diipoli pikkus ja arv tähtsust - antennis kasutatava metalli omadused leiavad kajastamist vaid elektrijuhtivuse näol, millest tuleneb järjestus: hõbe, vask, alumiinium, raud, jne.
Üks võimalik teoreetiline lähenemine oleks piesoelektrilise kristalli "pööratavuse" analoogia: kui piesokristallist lasta läbi vahelduvvoolu, siis hakkab ta kõlarina helilaineid tootma - kui aga piesokristall panna helilainete abil võnkuma, hakkab ta mikrofonina nõrka vahelduvvoolu tootma - sarnaselt võiks eeldada, et antennis muutuvad eletrilised võnkumised mingil määral mehaanilisteks võnkumisteks - elektrilistel ja mehaanilistel võnkumistel on aga resonantsi/võimenduse olemus täiesti erinev - siin võib peituda "vedela" elavhõbeda eelis "tahke" alumiiniumi ja raua ees, st vedel elavhõbe hakkab kergemini mehaaniliselt võnkuma, ning võib teatud tingimustes (kraadiklaasi kuju) kergesti resonantsi minna - mehaanilisest võnkumistest resonantsi läinud elavhõbeda võnkumised kanduvad aga üle elektrilisteks võnkumisteks, nagu piesokristalli juures on - kõik see on vaid idee/teooria, mis põhineb "vedela metalli" eelistel tahke metalli ees antenni seisukohast lähtudes.
Kraadiklaasi saagimisest palju lihtsam oleks olnud vastava pikkusega vasktraat valmis lõigata - kuna aga massiliselt mindi palju keerukamat teed, siis võiks eeldada millegi muu olemasolu: linnatäis inimesi ei saa korraga lolliks minna, nagu Tallinnas ENSV ajal juhtus elavhõbeda antenniga seoses.
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gatahes raadiolainete kiirgumist ja levi kirjeldavates valemites on "väikesed parandustegurid", mille tõttu on antenni vahetus läheduses (suurusjärk millimeeter kuni sentimeeter) levi olemus veidi muutunud (tavalise 1/raadiusega asemel on 1/raadiuse ruuduga tegurid mis raadiuse kasvades sumbuvad väga kiiresti ruutfunktsiooni alusel) - kuid sadade meetrite kaugusel (naabrite rikutud levi) ja kilomeetrite kaugusel (sõjaväelaste rikutud levi) ei tohiks sellised mõjutused ulatuda.
Juhin tähelepanu sellele, et elektro-gravitatsiooni tööpõhimõttel töötavate lendavate taldrikute (IIMS aegsed Haunebu-d ja nende koopiad võitjariikide sõjalaborites) sees kasutati samuti elavhõbedat pöörleva kontuuri sees, mis uuemate mudelite juures on asendatud vedela tefloniga.
Elektro-gravitatsiooni põhimõttel töötavate lendavate taldrikute liikumise juures on teatav "värin", st nad viiakse reaalsest ruumist korraks astraalsesse ruumi ja tuuakse teise reaalsesse ruumipunkti tagasi, ning elavhõbe tundub olevat selle juures võtmeteguriks.
Seega võiks "elavhõbeda antenni" anomaaliate juures hoida silme ees ka lendavate taldrikute astraalseid värinaid - kuid kõlbaks ka "täiesti maised" selgitused. "
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"Ega siis kõik aprillikuus avaldatud teated pole aprillinaljad - tihti avaldatakse sopalehtedes 1. aprillil teadlikult vabamüürluse ja konksninade olemuse kohta tõeseid kirjutisi: hiljem hea öelda, et me ju sopaleht ja täna 1. aprill, mis te sellisest kooslusest ikka tahete - kuid kirjutiste sisu on ju õige.
Isegi kui elavhõbeda antenni katsetajad said ülilevi hetkel "pildi ette", jääb endiselt mõistatuseks sõjaväe radari ja side tegelaste hädakisa "me ei näe midagi" - seda juba 1. aprilliga ei põhjenda."
10 April 2018 16:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://console.cloud.google.com/terms?authuser=0&consoleReturnUrl=https:%2F%2Fconsole.firebase.google.com%2Fproject%2Feesti-vabariik%2Foverview&consoleUI=FIREBASE
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10 April 2018 16:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 April 2018 16:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// theniline vajadus ja info muidugi hoopis midagiu muud ja omamoodi huvitav ja põnev potensiaal, kuid nagu Agenda ise aga..
10 April 2018 16:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"To refocus our efforts, we're turning down support for goo.gl over the coming weeks and replacing it with Firebase Dynamic Links (FDL). FDLs are smart URLs that allow you to send existing and potential users to any location within an iOS, Android or web app.
- Selle potensiaali, ku isee likvideerib tava weebi olemust, peab .. sellega nad endale jalga lasevad.. viimasem ja vimasem aeg ikka nsee neti päästmise projekt käima saada.. see ka ajaküsimus ku iweayback mashiiine lastakse põhja koos kogu selle potensialaiga sääl..
sest kui plaan on hallata kogu infot, ajalugu ja tarkust, infoliikumist ja kasutust, mis lelementaarne arusaam millepoole pyyeldakse.. siis ilmselge, et teatud tooted ja suunad, kasutused on ristijalus ja neid mass uute toodetega väljajuuride.. meelega eeemale meeltiades... kuig siin see paraleelne info lihtsalt võimalus mida alg esimese astme inimene peaks arvestama.
- Selle potensiaali, ku isee likvideerib tava weebi olemust, peab .. sellega nad endale jalga lasevad.. viimasem ja vimasem aeg ikka nsee neti päästmise projekt käima saada.. see ka ajaküsimus ku iweayback mashiiine lastakse põhja koos kogu selle potensialaiga sääl..
sest kui plaan on hallata kogu infot, ajalugu ja tarkust, infoliikumist ja kasutust, mis lelementaarne arusaam millepoole pyyeldakse.. siis ilmselge, et teatud tooted ja suunad, kasutused on ristijalus ja neid mass uute toodetega väljajuuride.. meelega eeemale meeltiades... kuig siin see paraleelne info lihtsalt võimalus mida alg esimese astme inimene peaks arvestama.
10 April 2018 16:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
10 April 2018 15:59
Margus Meigo replied to Meigo Märk's comment.
Minu oma arvates kõige märkimisväärsemad asjad on taimetoidulisus (nu jah, ka seegi ju indiaga kokku sobib...) ja loodus armastus, loodus kaitse millega need natsionalistlikud Sotsialistid tegelesid.. kuid siis veel ka oluline punkt, et SS soovis lahkuda, Rooma , ROOMA Võimu alt (nad ise rooma saluuti viskasid ju ja rooma impeeriumi kotka logo all olid.... nagu vene siiani) ... see oli SS'i üks maakera põhi misioonidest mis nad oma alustus manifestis märkisid, punkte oli selles mastaabis suht vähe,
Lisaks veel finants süsteemi üle kontroll ja inimeste käitumise parandamine jms
Lisaks veel finants süsteemi üle kontroll ja inimeste käitumise parandamine jms
10 April 2018 13:18
Margus Meigo replied to Meigo Märk's comment.
Mis ta sääl head räägib?
Ja kas räägib samast swasticast mis sig heiliga kooos käib või sellest india omast, aga millele sellesees täpsemalt tähelepanu juhisid muidust?
Ja kas räägib samast swasticast mis sig heiliga kooos käib või sellest india omast, aga millele sellesees täpsemalt tähelepanu juhisid muidust?
10 April 2018 13:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Ja see keskeraknd kesseda asja juhatas.. neil nüüd üks asi langeb teise järgi... EKRE kes pidi nende lõukoer olema, sissemurdmiseks, mahamurdmiseks Eesti patriootlikuse.. kes nende kanalilt alguse sai.. ja siis vailitust lammutama saadeti.. nad nüüd neile endale jalga on jugenud kinni hakata... ja suured pättused tulevad välja.. ja see on alles algus..
ega venemagi pole rahul, et nende projektid siin tuksi keerati ja ... võim käest pudeneb... keegi ei käskinud me õuele tulla.. ja koos sissetungijatega lipsumehed ja muud väliskülalised kes ei oska olla.. ka peagi ennast ise harvendama hakkavad ja endi hulgas lageraiettegema...
oot puterdan vaimukeelt suts ,aga ehk miskit kasu, sellest mis peast läbijooksis9 April 2018 23:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Joac Ramd Oh millineõtlesingi, miks mul polnud tunnet, nagu ta oleks surnud...vaid suurem veel... Sest ta elus veeel!
nagu ta oleks ütelnud "Ole mureta, sellest midagi suuremat sündis ja need kes kallale kippusid ...nendega on ,,,"
Sest ta elus ikkagi päriselt mitte mu kujutluses, tunnetuses ainult... jesss!!!9 April 2018 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Ruukel's post.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Kes tema pildil on ?9 April 2018 23:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EmaPuu
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1851694328192930&set=g.321102291623006&type=1&theater&ifg=19 April 2018 23:01
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Hammer's post.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
WAU, kas alg puust inimesed moistsid võtta , et uuesti elu ja hinge slelel puul jätkata? See väga legendaarne!9 April 2018 22:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Metsatööd eestimoodi
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9 April 2018 22:47
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Nagu milleks ... keegi seda teeb?9 April 2018 22:42
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9 April 2018 22:40
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Haiged värdjad kes seda korraldavad ja vaatamas käivad monulesdes9 April 2018 22:39
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9 April 2018 22:24
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Eesti pilt?9 April 2018 22:20
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9 April 2018 22:19
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9 April 2018 22:15
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9 April 2018 22:14
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9 April 2018 22:00
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Naljakas mõrudalt.. agfa ikkagi kurb..9 April 2018 21:59
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9 April 2018 21:59
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Kaudselt seotud:
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9 April 2018 21:59
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kurjus KÕIGRE rohkem kardab paljastust, ja suurem osa neid pole sellega veel arvestanud.. et nende patud igaveseks avaliuks saavad saada..9 April 2018 21:58
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Väga tõsiselt nende osas seisakuid võtta, kes julgesid seisukoha võtta..
ja need nimed üles märkida... raudselt netti, liste mitmeid,
neid nii praegu kui hiljem vaja.. ja neil endal ka kõhe kui nimed avalikud!9 April 2018 21:58
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Asi on naljast kaugel kui miljard taga, siin pole naerda midagi ,tuleb väga tõsiselt asja võtta9 April 2018 21:57
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9 April 2018 21:56
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9 April 2018 21:55
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Tamm's comment.
ja need ise võetud, sebitud, .. need on sarvikutest enamasti..
pole ju muret teada reaalselt, , oppida strutuuriliselt ja hoida mängu et saada kes iganes aga see poleks minuliigi stiil ja moodus mida planeedil selgitada soovin.. see oleks hullem jupp maad kui roigipoolt organsieeeeriutd sundabileu...
sest see üle piiri murdmises.. kugi see thetud nyyd sewdasi,.. et seda naisedootavad enamus ja loodavadet neid murtakse ja tagaaetakjse.. siis ma vajan kes tugevalt vastu jookseks mul ja ei aseks hajuda pigem, et saan selle peale kindel olla, siis saab ehtada yles uskumatud tugvad ja suuri struktuure..
Selle saab ianult filmis selgitada.. ja näidata... keeurlsies suures filmis.. ja ka siis. .seda vaadatksid pajud ja saaks aru seda paarimal jhul fantaasiana..
kuid yeha.. realasus seega jääbi.. veel tõestamisel.l....
ja kunagi miskid tegelased kes ytlesid et nad ylevalt, ka välhavihastasin.. .sest ma ei pooranud suurt tähelepanu erilist kummardust sellele.. et tõestagu ta kudias ignes kus iganes.. aa ma jätsin oma arvamustele õiguse, uigi nyydseks jah, vaatna et nemausele nii äkiliselt ei oleks pidnaud.. kuig... veel ullem oleks alluda ju asjadele mis eemaldavad oma loomingu usu.. targemana oleks nad voinud siis ju selgitada lahkelt et ikkagi ni ja naa.. aga nägin ka nodew poolt puiklemist..
Hmm jaa. miks see tekst siia kandlub.. proovin pidurit panna : )
pole ju muret teada reaalselt, , oppida strutuuriliselt ja hoida mängu et saada kes iganes aga see poleks minuliigi stiil ja moodus mida planeedil selgitada soovin.. see oleks hullem jupp maad kui roigipoolt organsieeeeriutd sundabileu...
sest see üle piiri murdmises.. kugi see thetud nyyd sewdasi,.. et seda naisedootavad enamus ja loodavadet neid murtakse ja tagaaetakjse.. siis ma vajan kes tugevalt vastu jookseks mul ja ei aseks hajuda pigem, et saan selle peale kindel olla, siis saab ehtada yles uskumatud tugvad ja suuri struktuure..
Selle saab ianult filmis selgitada.. ja näidata... keeurlsies suures filmis.. ja ka siis. .seda vaadatksid pajud ja saaks aru seda paarimal jhul fantaasiana..
kuid yeha.. realasus seega jääbi.. veel tõestamisel.l....
ja kunagi miskid tegelased kes ytlesid et nad ylevalt, ka välhavihastasin.. .sest ma ei pooranud suurt tähelepanu erilist kummardust sellele.. et tõestagu ta kudias ignes kus iganes.. aa ma jätsin oma arvamustele õiguse, uigi nyydseks jah, vaatna et nemausele nii äkiliselt ei oleks pidnaud.. kuig... veel ullem oleks alluda ju asjadele mis eemaldavad oma loomingu usu.. targemana oleks nad voinud siis ju selgitada lahkelt et ikkagi ni ja naa.. aga nägin ka nodew poolt puiklemist..
Hmm jaa. miks see tekst siia kandlub.. proovin pidurit panna : )
9 April 2018 20:55
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Tamm's comment.
isegi kapitalismi pääsmiseks juba ammu lehe tegin, aa siis polnud resurssi seda üleval hoida ja reaalselt plaane paika panna, kuidas hakata inimesi opetama mis raha on, milleks ja kuidas seda kasutada selliselt,et inimliigile kasulik oleks... ja seeg,a et rahavastased meelsused liialt ylepea eip tõuseks siin, mida punutakse.
Jumalale muidu see eriti ei meeldi, mul mitukorda tasuunalt öeldud, et ta väga selle asja vastane, internet ka suures osas ei meeldi, kuigi õtestada olen priovnud , et milleks see tgeelt on ja kuidas kasutada saab.. aa... hnmmm... kuna nasied on jumalast.. siis nu .. jah.. vb sellepärastta eip annagi mulle ühtk iD:
Jumalale muidu see eriti ei meeldi, mul mitukorda tasuunalt öeldud, et ta väga selle asja vastane, internet ka suures osas ei meeldi, kuigi õtestada olen priovnud , et milleks see tgeelt on ja kuidas kasutada saab.. aa... hnmmm... kuna nasied on jumalast.. siis nu .. jah.. vb sellepärastta eip annagi mulle ühtk iD:
9 April 2018 20:51
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Tamm's comment.
iroonia selles ongi, et ma võitlen süsteemi poolt ja puiklemise vastu
9 April 2018 19:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nagu sunnitakse ühes ajas ja ühes aegruuumis olema pidevalt, olenemata su tegudest ja soovides... nu lihtsalt aaargghh..
ise jagavad alkoholi sõltlastele viina raha ja siis nüpeldavad neid kes node enda süsteemi produktiivsuse nimel viidab aega muudes aegades ja mõtteruumides
ise jagavad alkoholi sõltlastele viina raha ja siis nüpeldavad neid kes node enda süsteemi produktiivsuse nimel viidab aega muudes aegades ja mõtteruumides
9 April 2018 13:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
lihtsalt minu maailmas ei resoneeri ebapraktilised liikumised.. kuskile mingi kellaaega rehulaarelt ilmuda.. see täeisti ruudustik tundub,
ma pole ruut
ma saan aru, et alkoholikud ja mingid jooksus pätid peavad käima näitamas ennast,
kuid nagu milleks , kõik
ma pole ruut
ma saan aru, et alkoholikud ja mingid jooksus pätid peavad käima näitamas ennast,
kuid nagu milleks , kõik
9 April 2018 13:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
iseenesest kõlab hästi
teistpidi jälle mitte
teistpidi jälle mitte
9 April 2018 13:48
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek J's comment.
tõsi,
paremini poleks saanud kokku võttagi.
kuigi eks jah, ahistajate eesmärgid ja moodused olid erisuundade suunas erisugused ja üks paha teisepaha takistuseks
Kuid kahju jah, et üks võitis, selleasemel, et molemad kotkalised minemalangenud oleks.
Vahe vist oli ka see, et üks sai aru, et nad kurja heaks töötavad ja teised, kaotajad ei saanud aru enne kui juba hilja oli
paremini poleks saanud kokku võttagi.
kuigi eks jah, ahistajate eesmärgid ja moodused olid erisuundade suunas erisugused ja üks paha teisepaha takistuseks
Kuid kahju jah, et üks võitis, selleasemel, et molemad kotkalised minemalangenud oleks.
Vahe vist oli ka see, et üks sai aru, et nad kurja heaks töötavad ja teised, kaotajad ei saanud aru enne kui juba hilja oli
9 April 2018 13:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Normal people as well, in everyday trafic
https://www.facebook.com/MetroGoodVibes/videos/573036466212820
https://www.facebook.com/MetroGoodVibes/videos/573036466212820
9 April 2018 13:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.facebook.com/thedodosite/videos/1331474686987203/
https://www.facebook.com/thedodosite/videos/1331474686987203/
9 April 2018 13:11
Margus Meigo commented on Gerard Oosterman's post.
Kadri Andersen :)
9 April 2018 13:07
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oleks see lihtne huumor vaid olnud
9 April 2018 12:44
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9 April 2018 12:43
Margus Meigo commented on Gerli Grand's live video.
Jätab näo naerule kohe pikemaks ajaks!
9 April 2018 12:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui päriselt antaks selles osas aega ja resurssi mõelda, siis mõtleks juba palju muid asjalike asju ...
9 April 2018 12:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Suur IT ajastu ja ei osata siis välja mõelda, kuidas riigis väljavahetada kõik IT systeemid poodides sedasi, et need kaardid alguses aiult suurkettides töötaks, ja mitte ebavajalikele kaupadele, sh. alkoholi sisaldavad ained,
Kui sellegi saaks tehtud see murraks teed juba järgmiste arenduste juurde. Kuid kui seda keegi tõsiselt arendama hakkab, siis PALUN olge nii mõistlikud ja antke teada ka otseselt.. vaja lauda kutsuda ka päris maa ja sots inimesi, kes erinevad olukorrad kaardistada ja eluolu tunneb ja selgitada oskab sellemeelselt, mis meie maale tarvilik.
Suitsud PEAVAD ka kadunud olema poest ja alkohol ka, selleks las olla eraldi poed. Pole vaja mass alkoholi tööstust, ja siis ongi kohe äri juurde toodud, las olla poekettide kahjulikusega,
Ainukesed poed kellel võib lubada alkoholi ja tubakat müüa, on alguses väikepoed, asukohad mille "10 KM ümbruses" ühtegi spetsaliseeritud mürgimüümise poodi pole, mis suurkauplustest eraldunud. Küll neil alkomeestel ja suitsumüüjatel on raha, et oma mürgiputkasi ehitada.. ja eks rhval rhkem ka häbi teki, ku isinna sisse kõnnivad ajapikku. Nii peakski olema, Ja pärast see normaliseerub sest alkohol nii kallis ja muud mürgid, et anult need kes suuresti teenvad neid endale lubada saavad.
Eesti metsad on täis rohtusi mida targemad maainimesed saavad kasutada nii meele ergutuseks, uinutuseks, lõbustuseks ku itarkuste jaoks ja enesekindluse jaoks, lisaks saab veel palju muud kasvama panna, ilma ühegi tehaseta, rohtusi mis ei kahjusta makse ega ajusi ka tipp teadlaste uuringute sõnul mitte ainult aastatuhadete tarkuste põhjal.
Kndlasti EI tohi sellesse lõksu sattuda, et lasta kellegil ajada jurda, nagu Eesti riik peaks võõrvallutsu ainete pealt , milllega me kultuuri ja rahvast "vabatahtlikult" sõltuvusse meeöltiatakse/hävitatakse, et peaksime riigi kassat samamoodi sõltuvuses hoidma mürkide müügiga.
Igast demagoogia salasuitsu ja viina osas ei tasu kuulat,a loomulikult et esimese 10 aasta jooksul uued lained tulevad, sellega tasub ettearvestada, need asjad mida siia sisse juurutatud 100 aastat, ei saagi 4 aastada kohe kõike puhtaks, vähemalt 15 aastat kulub järjepidevalt, uurides mida kurikaelad ja rahvameelsus ette võtab ja siis rahulikult selles osas uus strateegia vastu võtta.
Avalikult häbiposti ja listi panna ka need inimesed kes koostööd mõrvarilike ja rahvust kahjustavate jõududega teevad.
Siis peaks ka päris kodumaa armastus, jumalameelsuse tunnetus ja pere sidemed taastuma, kindlasti, selles pole isegi kahtlust ju, et need eelnimetatud ainete eemaldamisel, tekib sidemete sügavus mis päris tunnete põhine, mis jääv, mis kestev, mis praktiline
Suur IT ajastu ja ei osata siis välja mõelda, kuidas riigis väljavahetada kõik IT systeemid poodides sedasi, et need kaardid alguses aiult suurkettides töötaks, ja mitte ebavajalikele kaupadele, sh. alkoholi sisaldavad ained,
Kui sellegi saaks tehtud see murraks teed juba järgmiste arenduste juurde. Kuid kui seda keegi tõsiselt arendama hakkab, siis PALUN olge nii mõistlikud ja antke teada ka otseselt.. vaja lauda kutsuda ka päris maa ja sots inimesi, kes erinevad olukorrad kaardistada ja eluolu tunneb ja selgitada oskab sellemeelselt, mis meie maale tarvilik.
Suitsud PEAVAD ka kadunud olema poest ja alkohol ka, selleks las olla eraldi poed. Pole vaja mass alkoholi tööstust, ja siis ongi kohe äri juurde toodud, las olla poekettide kahjulikusega,
Ainukesed poed kellel võib lubada alkoholi ja tubakat müüa, on alguses väikepoed, asukohad mille "10 KM ümbruses" ühtegi spetsaliseeritud mürgimüümise poodi pole, mis suurkauplustest eraldunud. Küll neil alkomeestel ja suitsumüüjatel on raha, et oma mürgiputkasi ehitada.. ja eks rhval rhkem ka häbi teki, ku isinna sisse kõnnivad ajapikku. Nii peakski olema, Ja pärast see normaliseerub sest alkohol nii kallis ja muud mürgid, et anult need kes suuresti teenvad neid endale lubada saavad.
Eesti metsad on täis rohtusi mida targemad maainimesed saavad kasutada nii meele ergutuseks, uinutuseks, lõbustuseks ku itarkuste jaoks ja enesekindluse jaoks, lisaks saab veel palju muud kasvama panna, ilma ühegi tehaseta, rohtusi mis ei kahjusta makse ega ajusi ka tipp teadlaste uuringute sõnul mitte ainult aastatuhadete tarkuste põhjal.
Kndlasti EI tohi sellesse lõksu sattuda, et lasta kellegil ajada jurda, nagu Eesti riik peaks võõrvallutsu ainete pealt , milllega me kultuuri ja rahvast "vabatahtlikult" sõltuvusse meeöltiatakse/hävitatakse, et peaksime riigi kassat samamoodi sõltuvuses hoidma mürkide müügiga.
Igast demagoogia salasuitsu ja viina osas ei tasu kuulat,a loomulikult et esimese 10 aasta jooksul uued lained tulevad, sellega tasub ettearvestada, need asjad mida siia sisse juurutatud 100 aastat, ei saagi 4 aastada kohe kõike puhtaks, vähemalt 15 aastat kulub järjepidevalt, uurides mida kurikaelad ja rahvameelsus ette võtab ja siis rahulikult selles osas uus strateegia vastu võtta.
Avalikult häbiposti ja listi panna ka need inimesed kes koostööd mõrvarilike ja rahvust kahjustavate jõududega teevad.
Siis peaks ka päris kodumaa armastus, jumalameelsuse tunnetus ja pere sidemed taastuma, kindlasti, selles pole isegi kahtlust ju, et need eelnimetatud ainete eemaldamisel, tekib sidemete sügavus mis päris tunnete põhine, mis jääv, mis kestev, mis praktiline
9 April 2018 12:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nukraks teeb see, et kellele see raha läheb ja mida kõike selle eestteha saaks.
Töökad lapseemad ja arukad vanurid kellele saaks käsunduslepingu-vabalepingu alusel palka maksta, et nad koolilastele elu-lugusi rääkimas käiks, me ei pea siin EU sertifitseeritud õpetajatega vaid päris eestlastega tegelema, ka. Vaja jutlusi, mis..
Mis elutarkusi tooks, pool koolipäeva paarkorda kuus igal klassil vabaks teha poleks mingi mure.
Ütleme kui vallas on tagasihoidlikult arvestades 500 päris joodikut,
vallad suts suuremad Eesti peale.. ja eks see number ..
Nu jha, ja siis nüüd ärme mõtle, et 400eur siin enamus saavad, ega ka need muud pensionid ja toetused, vaid kui ainuüksi 100 eurot "ainult" kuus vina ja suitsu investeeritakse, siis
see on juba 50 000 EUROT KUUS ühe väikse ala peale,
kui absoluutse miinimumi järgi arvestada.
500 eur sõltuvushaigete peale ja see 50 000 on 100% abosluutselt ebavajalik, kahjulik nii neile kui riigile, ausa-riigimeelsuse vastalisust tekitab ka alko lisaks veel tervisemured (sest ega sellest riik tervemaks saa, nii mõnelegi mitme tuhandelised ravid selleeest tuleb veel kunagi korraldada.. õnnetusi rohkem jms)
Aastas siis võrdub see üle poole millioni euro, mis arvate, kas poole millioni euroga juba annaks vallas midagi huvitavat ja kasulikku korraldada? Ilmselgelt eks ?
Iga aasta pool millionit niisama lastakse ameerilastele saata.. (mitte, et see matemaatika päris nii toimks, aa suures plaanis)
Me ei räägi siin asfalteerimisest ega ehitustest vaid igasugused muud kasulikud väikeprojektid mis raha ei saa.
// kõige hullem, et vist ei saada aru millist südame külmumist ja pealiskaudsust need ained tekitavad.. samal ajal need ained mis sügavust, tundeid ja liigasügavat osavõtmist tekitavad isegi.. need on keelatud..milline irooniline paradox.. millest üldse ei räägita... et inimese vastased ained massiliselt lubatud ja pläägutatakse, et see patamatus ja näe veneajal proovisime ja ei saadud hakkama... unustades mainida, et VENE AEG PANI meid jooma, ja see läbikukkkumise taktika oli OSA PROJEKTIST et tulevikus ei üritataks.. ei tohi Jevgeni Ossinovski sina lasta ennast samasuguseks anti-märteriksteha, et näe.. ta ka proovis ja taandus.. et keegi enam ei üritakski..
// taanduda võib avalikult aga sõna pead jätma viimase, et kuidas normaalne oleks, ja poelks midagi hullu kui pudel viina 15 eurot maksaks. ja pakk suitsu 10 eurot. millest 80%+ oleks maks.
//piisab kui ükski asjakohal inimene minu tekstipuntra seest need teod edasi ,arusaadvalt kellegile kirjutab..
et jah.. võiks me oma toidufirmad ja kaupmehed need rahad saada...
aga saavad alkoholi ja suitsu firmad, need ka enamus ameerika omad, ...võtame KÕIGE raske taseme raha.. sots raha.. ja saadame kõige rikkama maa, kõige rikkamatele firmadele, kes kõige enam kurja teevad... nu mis loogika see on nu ma lihtsalt ei saa seda mõista miks ülikooli haridusega inimesed sellist utoopiist "vabadust" inimestele pakuvad,
see on kui lipsudega vereringe nii koomale tõmmatud päevast päeva, et kuplisse vajalik enam kohale ei jõua.
Töökad lapseemad ja arukad vanurid kellele saaks käsunduslepingu-vabalepingu alusel palka maksta, et nad koolilastele elu-lugusi rääkimas käiks, me ei pea siin EU sertifitseeritud õpetajatega vaid päris eestlastega tegelema, ka. Vaja jutlusi, mis..
Mis elutarkusi tooks, pool koolipäeva paarkorda kuus igal klassil vabaks teha poleks mingi mure.
Ütleme kui vallas on tagasihoidlikult arvestades 500 päris joodikut,
vallad suts suuremad Eesti peale.. ja eks see number ..
Nu jha, ja siis nüüd ärme mõtle, et 400eur siin enamus saavad, ega ka need muud pensionid ja toetused, vaid kui ainuüksi 100 eurot "ainult" kuus vina ja suitsu investeeritakse, siis
see on juba 50 000 EUROT KUUS ühe väikse ala peale,
kui absoluutse miinimumi järgi arvestada.
500 eur sõltuvushaigete peale ja see 50 000 on 100% abosluutselt ebavajalik, kahjulik nii neile kui riigile, ausa-riigimeelsuse vastalisust tekitab ka alko lisaks veel tervisemured (sest ega sellest riik tervemaks saa, nii mõnelegi mitme tuhandelised ravid selleeest tuleb veel kunagi korraldada.. õnnetusi rohkem jms)
Aastas siis võrdub see üle poole millioni euro, mis arvate, kas poole millioni euroga juba annaks vallas midagi huvitavat ja kasulikku korraldada? Ilmselgelt eks ?
Iga aasta pool millionit niisama lastakse ameerilastele saata.. (mitte, et see matemaatika päris nii toimks, aa suures plaanis)
Me ei räägi siin asfalteerimisest ega ehitustest vaid igasugused muud kasulikud väikeprojektid mis raha ei saa.
// kõige hullem, et vist ei saada aru millist südame külmumist ja pealiskaudsust need ained tekitavad.. samal ajal need ained mis sügavust, tundeid ja liigasügavat osavõtmist tekitavad isegi.. need on keelatud..milline irooniline paradox.. millest üldse ei räägita... et inimese vastased ained massiliselt lubatud ja pläägutatakse, et see patamatus ja näe veneajal proovisime ja ei saadud hakkama... unustades mainida, et VENE AEG PANI meid jooma, ja see läbikukkkumise taktika oli OSA PROJEKTIST et tulevikus ei üritataks.. ei tohi Jevgeni Ossinovski sina lasta ennast samasuguseks anti-märteriksteha, et näe.. ta ka proovis ja taandus.. et keegi enam ei üritakski..
// taanduda võib avalikult aga sõna pead jätma viimase, et kuidas normaalne oleks, ja poelks midagi hullu kui pudel viina 15 eurot maksaks. ja pakk suitsu 10 eurot. millest 80%+ oleks maks.
//piisab kui ükski asjakohal inimene minu tekstipuntra seest need teod edasi ,arusaadvalt kellegile kirjutab..
et jah.. võiks me oma toidufirmad ja kaupmehed need rahad saada...
aga saavad alkoholi ja suitsu firmad, need ka enamus ameerika omad, ...võtame KÕIGE raske taseme raha.. sots raha.. ja saadame kõige rikkama maa, kõige rikkamatele firmadele, kes kõige enam kurja teevad... nu mis loogika see on nu ma lihtsalt ei saa seda mõista miks ülikooli haridusega inimesed sellist utoopiist "vabadust" inimestele pakuvad,
see on kui lipsudega vereringe nii koomale tõmmatud päevast päeva, et kuplisse vajalik enam kohale ei jõua.
9 April 2018 12:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Majas on uuendusi liikumas, täna toodi kellegil viieliitrise kanistriga samakat.
Vaevalt,et samaka müüa seda neile andnud oleks kui nad vastu leiba ja makarone müügimehele oleks pakkunud.
Ja nagu paha uni käivad ringirataste peale kõigile kes ei soovi juua. Ise näinud, üks proovib mitte kuid see austus ja osa tööst, see joomine siin osadel normaalsetest.
Üks ja teine tuleb silmad kilavad peas, et pead kohe võtma... ja kui endal raha siis nad tulevad, samamoodi, et pead kohe ostma, sest nad ju Sulle andsid.
Selline hingede vangistus süsteem
Seda pole juu nii raske lammutada ja normaalsusega asendada, palju targad asjalikud tegelased.
Teavad ajalugu ja riigiasju, eri nüansse hästi.. .hoopis parem kasutus oleks kui võtta riigiraha ja siis sunniviisiliselt neid sundima jooma.
Tundub vabatahlik olema, aga see sots ja alkosõltlaste seltsis, on see sunniviisiline joomine millesse riik paneb inimesed, kas siis meelega alkofirmadega koostöös või siis ABSOLUUTSEST teadmatuses kuidas alkoholi võrgud, alkoholisõltuvused, osad isiksused ja veel mustad jõud kellele vaja, et oldkas pidevas sõltuvuses, kuidas nende võrgud töötavad.
Ta lausa rääkinud mul sõber, et vahest proovib pool puut tagant puu taha lipsata, ja ikka, just enne kui saad poodi ja tagasi mindud, et süüa tuua või värkset õhku hingata.. hüppab nurgatagant mingi tegelane pudeliga välja ja kallab kurgust alla, vahest päevajooksul mitutükki kuni keel verel .. siis kohe alkohoolikutle ju psyholoogia muudatus toimub,
teine vaim tuleb sisse .. ja peale paari lonksu juba kui SOLVATA EI SOOVI ..mille peale nad väga teravalt ütlevad..need jooma meelitajad..(kelle keskel peab ju elama) ja head inimesed siis alluvad.. joovad ja siis on kurvas ringis
ohates raskelt kurvalt ütlenud mul siin korterikaaslane., et "oeh.. see ju teada.. nagunii läheb joomaks :( "
Vaevalt,et samaka müüa seda neile andnud oleks kui nad vastu leiba ja makarone müügimehele oleks pakkunud.
Ja nagu paha uni käivad ringirataste peale kõigile kes ei soovi juua. Ise näinud, üks proovib mitte kuid see austus ja osa tööst, see joomine siin osadel normaalsetest.
Üks ja teine tuleb silmad kilavad peas, et pead kohe võtma... ja kui endal raha siis nad tulevad, samamoodi, et pead kohe ostma, sest nad ju Sulle andsid.
Selline hingede vangistus süsteem
Seda pole juu nii raske lammutada ja normaalsusega asendada, palju targad asjalikud tegelased.
Teavad ajalugu ja riigiasju, eri nüansse hästi.. .hoopis parem kasutus oleks kui võtta riigiraha ja siis sunniviisiliselt neid sundima jooma.
Tundub vabatahlik olema, aga see sots ja alkosõltlaste seltsis, on see sunniviisiline joomine millesse riik paneb inimesed, kas siis meelega alkofirmadega koostöös või siis ABSOLUUTSEST teadmatuses kuidas alkoholi võrgud, alkoholisõltuvused, osad isiksused ja veel mustad jõud kellele vaja, et oldkas pidevas sõltuvuses, kuidas nende võrgud töötavad.
Ta lausa rääkinud mul sõber, et vahest proovib pool puut tagant puu taha lipsata, ja ikka, just enne kui saad poodi ja tagasi mindud, et süüa tuua või värkset õhku hingata.. hüppab nurgatagant mingi tegelane pudeliga välja ja kallab kurgust alla, vahest päevajooksul mitutükki kuni keel verel .. siis kohe alkohoolikutle ju psyholoogia muudatus toimub,
teine vaim tuleb sisse .. ja peale paari lonksu juba kui SOLVATA EI SOOVI ..mille peale nad väga teravalt ütlevad..need jooma meelitajad..(kelle keskel peab ju elama) ja head inimesed siis alluvad.. joovad ja siis on kurvas ringis
ohates raskelt kurvalt ütlenud mul siin korterikaaslane., et "oeh.. see ju teada.. nagunii läheb joomaks :( "
9 April 2018 11:56
Margus Meigo replied to Tony Lindret's comment.
Just, et kes ja kelle käsul, luurel infot pole siis nimede jaoks v.
Võiks uudised olema kuidagi maaligidamas keeles, et MILLIST sorti sisu siis, keelatakse ja eemaldatakse, miskied näiteid ka,
kuid enamus jagavad sama slooganit,
Tarmo Sa ka pealkirjas, pane ikka sisu ja infot ka sisse, näiteid mida täpsemalt siis tehakse,
Millist sisu, pornograafilist või või
Võiks uudised olema kuidagi maaligidamas keeles, et MILLIST sorti sisu siis, keelatakse ja eemaldatakse, miskied näiteid ka,
kuid enamus jagavad sama slooganit,
Tarmo Sa ka pealkirjas, pane ikka sisu ja infot ka sisse, näiteid mida täpsemalt siis tehakse,
Millist sisu, pornograafilist või või
9 April 2018 11:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei saa ju nii pimedad ja mööda panevad olla meie maa hingevajduse ja loodusarusaamade osas
roheliste liit peaks olema meie riigi rahuvlsik kaitseall,
peab ikka uue tegema, nendest kes praegu.. maine liiialt selline et..
roheliste liit peaks olema meie riigi rahuvlsik kaitseall,
peab ikka uue tegema, nendest kes praegu.. maine liiialt selline et..
9 April 2018 10:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei nu ehk ikka oli rohke debelaki uudistega miskogematta uudistes ette loeti...
kuigi motlesin ka siis seda sama kui naiste vastased homo uudised tulid, loodus vastased homo uudised..
mis koheselt austuse kõigi naturaal eestlaste ja loodusarmastajate hulgast tiris minema
ning andis head materiali, äärmuslikel ja muidu homofoomidel ryndmaisplatformiks
ja see ise likvideerib ligipääsu, tõsistesse suhtustesse kui homoasja aetakse sest siis skui see punane kommuistlik idee millel ohtlikud ideoloogiad seotud, siis neid ei saa ju usaldada tõsise töö kjuures, sest nende läbi mida iganes saaab sisse tulla ja juurde, on elementaarne eestlase ohtutunnetusd, meie maal, meie kultuuris, kogemuses ja arusaamas
nagu polekski eestlased selle erakonna juhtimises vahest jääb mulje
kuigi motlesin ka siis seda sama kui naiste vastased homo uudised tulid, loodus vastased homo uudised..
mis koheselt austuse kõigi naturaal eestlaste ja loodusarmastajate hulgast tiris minema
ning andis head materiali, äärmuslikel ja muidu homofoomidel ryndmaisplatformiks
ja see ise likvideerib ligipääsu, tõsistesse suhtustesse kui homoasja aetakse sest siis skui see punane kommuistlik idee millel ohtlikud ideoloogiad seotud, siis neid ei saa ju usaldada tõsise töö kjuures, sest nende läbi mida iganes saaab sisse tulla ja juurde, on elementaarne eestlase ohtutunnetusd, meie maal, meie kultuuris, kogemuses ja arusaamas
nagu polekski eestlased selle erakonna juhtimises vahest jääb mulje
9 April 2018 10:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ÜLE töötanud eestlastel, kes kurnautse ääres suremas, enamus,
need kes ei ela hõlpu elu,
paljudel veel mitu töökohta ka,
ja tööandjad orjatõõstust suuredades siis soovivad .. need kes vanas paradigmas jah, väänaks töölistelt veelgirohkem välja... ja
rhavas .. kui suur osa rhvast seda küsitlusel NÕUDIS ja SOOVIS, et nad rohkem tööd saaks teha KOHUSTUSLIKUS korras?
Mis hullumeelsus ???
Normaalne suund oleks efektiivseks muutmine ühiskonda, et 4 tööpäeva ja tööpeäv inimesel teha 5 tunniliseks
ja siis teise poole tööpäevas teine 5 tundi otsa ku itarvis
pigem,
ei ole normalane, et inimene töödel kus istub, peab töpäeva lopus lkurnatud olema...
siis ei SAAAGI kunagi peredest ega armastusest midagi utlla, räääkimata loodusesse minekust
mis moodi need saavaad olla roheliste ideed, kui need regormid kindlustavad absoluutse likvideerimise, võimausest, et saaks aega keegi lodusesse minna ja loodusteemaga, loomisega tegeleda?
need kes ei ela hõlpu elu,
paljudel veel mitu töökohta ka,
ja tööandjad orjatõõstust suuredades siis soovivad .. need kes vanas paradigmas jah, väänaks töölistelt veelgirohkem välja... ja
rhavas .. kui suur osa rhvast seda küsitlusel NÕUDIS ja SOOVIS, et nad rohkem tööd saaks teha KOHUSTUSLIKUS korras?
Mis hullumeelsus ???
Normaalne suund oleks efektiivseks muutmine ühiskonda, et 4 tööpäeva ja tööpeäv inimesel teha 5 tunniliseks
ja siis teise poole tööpäevas teine 5 tundi otsa ku itarvis
pigem,
ei ole normalane, et inimene töödel kus istub, peab töpäeva lopus lkurnatud olema...
siis ei SAAAGI kunagi peredest ega armastusest midagi utlla, räääkimata loodusesse minekust
mis moodi need saavaad olla roheliste ideed, kui need regormid kindlustavad absoluutse likvideerimise, võimausest, et saaks aega keegi lodusesse minna ja loodusteemaga, loomisega tegeleda?
9 April 2018 10:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Töörobotite maksustamine:
Kust maalt piir pannakse, Kust maalt hakkab robot tulevikus, kas Sofiast edasiarenenud või inimesed kes ennast pool robotiks teinud, kas iseliikvuad tolmuimejad ja muruniidukid ja rimi kassas inimesi teenindavad seisvad triipkoodi robotid ka... aruka saadi mis siin kaasneb?
KEs on robotite suurtöööstuste taga, jah, õige, need samad jõud, nii kommunisltikud kui muud, ... jah ... ja kas siis saaks ..kas saaksid midagi head teha minnes suurimate tööstuste vastu valides SELLISE produkti neilt mis inimestele enamuses hea tundub, mis tööstusele kasulik tundub...
kas nad mitte siis ei tiri niite, et see võimatuks teha...
oeh..
Kust maalt piir pannakse, Kust maalt hakkab robot tulevikus, kas Sofiast edasiarenenud või inimesed kes ennast pool robotiks teinud, kas iseliikvuad tolmuimejad ja muruniidukid ja rimi kassas inimesi teenindavad seisvad triipkoodi robotid ka... aruka saadi mis siin kaasneb?
KEs on robotite suurtöööstuste taga, jah, õige, need samad jõud, nii kommunisltikud kui muud, ... jah ... ja kas siis saaks ..kas saaksid midagi head teha minnes suurimate tööstuste vastu valides SELLISE produkti neilt mis inimestele enamuses hea tundub, mis tööstusele kasulik tundub...
kas nad mitte siis ei tiri niite, et see võimatuks teha...
oeh..
9 April 2018 10:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
teid meelega mitte viksena, ei hoita, mite eestlaste ja eesti politika poolt, vaid nende poolt kes pole teid oma käejärgi tantsima saanud, alles sis kui "vlamis" siis lasevad linnu vabaks nö ja toetused taha.... arulage ju, et meie esinumber mis me riigil on, et sellele 3% toetust.. peaks olema miinimum 30 juba ainuüksi vabakäigul liiikudes
9 April 2018 10:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
õigluse ja headuse eest ees
st
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9 April 2018 10:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sest roheline on ja jääb tuleviku suurimaks potnsiaalseks olulisemaks jõuks mis saab globaalse võimu osaks, valida saame kas nad meie meelsuse järgi v meie nende meelsuse järgi
kes ees see eestimeelne mees (koos naisega)
kes ees see eestimeelne mees (koos naisega)
9 April 2018 10:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
juhuks kui muidugi on looduse ja Kodumaaga päriselt kontoakti saadud ja kõik kes selle kallal ilguvad, mitte arusaades kui suurvõimudrega kõik muud parteid kimpus on... siis nendega eip tasu üldse suhelda.. jḱa need tuleb kainusele kutsuda kellele meeldib NV trimpsutada või väärmeelsustega tegeleda, kui lloooduse päris puhtust soovite hoida
need asjad on detialides, loodus on radikaalne ja puhas ja loogiline ja mitte minig pseudo virutaalne
need asjad on detialides, loodus on radikaalne ja puhas ja loogiline ja mitte minig pseudo virutaalne
9 April 2018 10:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja eks siis kommunistid ei tule tänapäeval sedasi sulle,
nagu Mormonid v Jehoova tunistajad, et :
"Tere Meie oleme Kommuistid-Internatisionaal-Liberaalid, kas sooviksite neo-Marxistlike või rooma-impeeriumlike uskumusi kuulata ja neid Leenlliliku Noori tutvustavaid pamflett'e lugeda"
vms
ei, stiilid on "lähme koos kohvikusse, ilgume valitsuse kallal või siis kui vaja, siis magatakse kõigepealt mone naisega ja pannakse neid häbiväärseid asju tunnetama mille kaudu rääkimata juba kontrollida saab ja node emotsioonide aeg sisestatakse tülide või armatsemise käigus põhitõed ja kõik muu on lihtsalt segadusew tekitamiseks... ründeobjektidena nagu helrilased süstitakse...
või siis avalikult võtakse keegi ette ja häbistatakse heaolu selleüle tundes ja teisi kaasa haarates... kui keegi heade asjade eest seisab... et seda keegi enam thea eip julgeks... ja veel mitmed rahastajad ja partneluse pakkujad.. mõjutajad ..... ja muidu eesmisiooni vedajad... kes käivad üle vaatamas noori...
kõiki tuleb kontorllida eismeseks, kas nad on EESTI rohelised.. või on neil mingi muu väärtus olulisem kui arusaamine, et Eesti ongi, rohelisuse epitoom
nagu Mormonid v Jehoova tunistajad, et :
"Tere Meie oleme Kommuistid-Internatisionaal-Liberaalid, kas sooviksite neo-Marxistlike või rooma-impeeriumlike uskumusi kuulata ja neid Leenlliliku Noori tutvustavaid pamflett'e lugeda"
vms
ei, stiilid on "lähme koos kohvikusse, ilgume valitsuse kallal või siis kui vaja, siis magatakse kõigepealt mone naisega ja pannakse neid häbiväärseid asju tunnetama mille kaudu rääkimata juba kontrollida saab ja node emotsioonide aeg sisestatakse tülide või armatsemise käigus põhitõed ja kõik muu on lihtsalt segadusew tekitamiseks... ründeobjektidena nagu helrilased süstitakse...
või siis avalikult võtakse keegi ette ja häbistatakse heaolu selleüle tundes ja teisi kaasa haarates... kui keegi heade asjade eest seisab... et seda keegi enam thea eip julgeks... ja veel mitmed rahastajad ja partneluse pakkujad.. mõjutajad ..... ja muidu eesmisiooni vedajad... kes käivad üle vaatamas noori...
kõiki tuleb kontorllida eismeseks, kas nad on EESTI rohelised.. või on neil mingi muu väärtus olulisem kui arusaamine, et Eesti ongi, rohelisuse epitoom
9 April 2018 10:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu nagu näiteks midagi head:
https://www.facebook.com/ene.lukka/posts/553017708406647
https://www.facebook.com/ene.lukka/posts/553017708406647
9 April 2018 09:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuna pold vistoma jagu
9 April 2018 08:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kid yeah egas silitada aint ka kallilt hoida oli plaaniski mitte palju rohkmeat
9 April 2018 08:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//lisamärge:
eile hapukoor-suhkru-kakao 'd palju tarbitud, veider rusutus/tumeduse ligipääs ka piimatoote ja suhkru liigtarbimise tõttu saab olla
eile hapukoor-suhkru-kakao 'd palju tarbitud, veider rusutus/tumeduse ligipääs ka piimatoote ja suhkru liigtarbimise tõttu saab olla
9 April 2018 08:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
alati
9 April 2018 08:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mitte, et uni vähemilmsi oleks, või et me teaks millal ilmsi ja unes
9 April 2018 08:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
või oot.. see vast oli kaudselt kellegi teine naine,
kui une eellugu uduselt meelde tuletada...
oeh... seega vast ikka hea, et lumusest üles aeti... kuigi... nägu ikka tunneb nagu oleks miski hämarusekiht vist ligi pääsenud... eip saa silma looja lasta ka..eip saa valvsust lasta, lõdvestuda üle liia..
Kuigi maises elus võiks ka ju .... kuidas neid kõike korraga .. neis kõigis korraga korralikult toimetada.. hmmm.. ju peab olema võimalik, pole ses osaspalju kirjandust veel näinud kus seletataks, kuidas moraal ja kohustus, võimalikus ja vajadus peab olema ja mille poole püüda unes ja ilms
kui une eellugu uduselt meelde tuletada...
oeh... seega vast ikka hea, et lumusest üles aeti... kuigi... nägu ikka tunneb nagu oleks miski hämarusekiht vist ligi pääsenud... eip saa silma looja lasta ka..eip saa valvsust lasta, lõdvestuda üle liia..
Kuigi maises elus võiks ka ju .... kuidas neid kõike korraga .. neis kõigis korraga korralikult toimetada.. hmmm.. ju peab olema võimalik, pole ses osaspalju kirjandust veel näinud kus seletataks, kuidas moraal ja kohustus, võimalikus ja vajadus peab olema ja mille poole püüda unes ja ilms
9 April 2018 08:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sorry Mihkel, me ei tunne aga vana vimm lihtsalt, mõnest telesaatest kellegikallal võtsid üleliia
8 April 2018 21:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Malachi :p
8 April 2018 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Ja pahavaimudega sekeldajatele malka:
https://www.facebook.com/301283436643165/videos/1466599663444864/
https://www.facebook.com/301283436643165/videos/1466599663444864/
8 April 2018 19:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kadi Kadak Kas see kommunaalidega koos ja elektriga?
8 April 2018 19:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
8 April 2018 19:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
a bit more facts about why She is awesome, like:
"Kelly is not a fan of the word ‘feminist’"
https://www.cheatsheet.com/health-fitness/from-death-to-divorce-the-revealing-secrets-behind-megyn-kellys-personal-life.html/?a=viewall
https://www.mediaite.com/online/another-fact-free-piece-megyn-kellys-husband-hits-back-at-vanity-fair-writer-over-article/
"Kelly is not a fan of the word ‘feminist’"
https://www.cheatsheet.com/health-fitness/from-death-to-divorce-the-revealing-secrets-behind-megyn-kellys-personal-life.html/?a=viewall
https://www.mediaite.com/online/another-fact-free-piece-megyn-kellys-husband-hits-back-at-vanity-fair-writer-over-article/
https://www.cheatsheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Megyn-Kelly-standing-in-a-black-dress-640x386.png
8 April 2018 18:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Oh sorry, this would be sin still,
so that can not be.. but He still clearly likes Her, more then just sympathy and She got respect for Him as well.
____________
On January 3, 2017, Kelly announced her departure from Fox News and stated that she would be joining NBC News.
Kelly was raised Roman Catholic.
2008, she married Douglas Brunt, who was then president and CEO of the cybersecurity firm Authentium, and who became a full-time writer and novelist.
They have three children, son Yates , daughter Yardley and son Thatcher
Interesting names.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Brunt
// so perhaps having great husband makes Her so confident.
so that can not be.. but He still clearly likes Her, more then just sympathy and She got respect for Him as well.
____________
On January 3, 2017, Kelly announced her departure from Fox News and stated that she would be joining NBC News.
Kelly was raised Roman Catholic.
2008, she married Douglas Brunt, who was then president and CEO of the cybersecurity firm Authentium, and who became a full-time writer and novelist.
They have three children, son Yates , daughter Yardley and son Thatcher
Interesting names.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Brunt
// so perhaps having great husband makes Her so confident.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Brunt
8 April 2018 18:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But Megyn Kelly is think Putin is clearly in admiration of Her strength
and as appearance and intelligence of Her would be Great addition to he's Trone one can just imagine what these two together can accomplish!
// Sorry but that would be no sin
Lyudmila Putina
On 6 June 2013, Lyudmila Putina and her husband publicly announced the termination of their marriage based on a mutual decision
She met Vladimir Putin in Leningrad, and they married on 28 July 1983
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/putin-divorces-wife-30-years-article-1.1365281
and as appearance and intelligence of Her would be Great addition to he's Trone one can just imagine what these two together can accomplish!
// Sorry but that would be no sin
Lyudmila Putina
On 6 June 2013, Lyudmila Putina and her husband publicly announced the termination of their marriage based on a mutual decision
She met Vladimir Putin in Leningrad, and they married on 28 July 1983
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/putin-divorces-wife-30-years-article-1.1365281
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/putin-divorces-wife-30-years-article-1.1365281
8 April 2018 18:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Kelly Ripa is the white part, Putin can stand for pure ones and we will take the Ground (Maa) as it's practical ( we all agree )
8 April 2018 18:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// Not related here much,
but jsut had no place to place it,
just wondering how these things are mentally related to same kind of community: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgnRClWx1SE
but jsut had no place to place it,
just wondering how these things are mentally related to same kind of community: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgnRClWx1SE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgnRClWx1SE
8 April 2018 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lihtsam, madalamate tasemete olemused, kuid ikkagi piisavalt kõrged, et võitmatud olla naisele kellel mees mõistmatu,
on näitena toodud siin reaalsuses:
on näitena toodud siin reaalsuses:
8 April 2018 17:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Näiteks lugege selle sama Rindiri vaeva mida ta pidi selle ... ei taha nime mainidagi.. kellega nägema:
teises lõigus:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindr
"...Snorri Sturluson's Prose Edda refers to Rindr as the mother of Váli and one of the ásynjur (goddesses).[1][2] The most detailed account is in Book III of the Gesta Danorum, written by Saxo Grammaticus around the early 13th century. There she is called Rinda and is the daughter of the King of the Ruthenians. After Balderus' death Odin consulted seers on how to get revenge. On their advice Odin went to the Ruthenians disguised as a warrior called Roster. There he was twice turned down by Rinda. He then wrote runes on a piece of bark and touched her with it, causing her to go mad, and disguised himself as a medicine woman called Wecha, who was allowed to see her. Finally she fell ill; the disguised Odin then said he had medicine with which to cure her but that it would cause a violent reaction. On Odin's advice, the king tied Rinda to her bed, and Odin proceeded to rape her. From the rape was born Váli, who would later avenge Balderus.[1][2][3]
Óðinn’s rape of Rindr is described once outside the Gesta Danorum, in a line of stanza 3 of Sigurðardrápa, a poem by Kormákr Ögmundarson praising Sigurðr Hlaðajarl, who ruled around Trondheim in the mid-10th century. Like other such praise-poems, it is generally assumed to be genuine rather than a later pseudo-historical composition. Kormákr’s verse contains the statement, seið Yggr til Rindar (Yggr [Óðinn] ?enchanted Rindr),[4] denoting Óðinn’s magical seduction of Rindr with the verb síða. This suggests that Kormakr thought the magic known as seiðr was integral to Óðinn’s wooing of Rindr, and is important evidence for Óðinn's association with this kind of magic. Another passage that may refer to the same event is in verse ..."
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Ilma WIkipediata, kuidas seda teaksid ja leiaksid ?
Sellega sai lammutatud atrtiklis mainitud jõudude Eesti salk, kes sellesse pettusesse tõmmata prooviti, et mis islamlaste silmis üli irooniline tundus... see häbiplek meil jäi saaamata ja sellest oma versiooni tegime.. tarkuse saime... kuid ettevaatlik peame olema, sellistesse ämbritesse mitte asumisel edaspidi...
lihtne on vaadata, kas tegu on alkoholide, lõtvusega, liig karmusega ilma ilu ja praktilise puumajade armastus.... need viimased asjad annavad teada, kui need olemas siis pigem suurema usaldusega normaalne juurtes, kui pikka aega puudu ja inimene projektides elanud ja ei tea kust sündinud. sis omamoodi kahtlane...
eeltavastienamuses
teises lõigus:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindr
"...Snorri Sturluson's Prose Edda refers to Rindr as the mother of Váli and one of the ásynjur (goddesses).[1][2] The most detailed account is in Book III of the Gesta Danorum, written by Saxo Grammaticus around the early 13th century. There she is called Rinda and is the daughter of the King of the Ruthenians. After Balderus' death Odin consulted seers on how to get revenge. On their advice Odin went to the Ruthenians disguised as a warrior called Roster. There he was twice turned down by Rinda. He then wrote runes on a piece of bark and touched her with it, causing her to go mad, and disguised himself as a medicine woman called Wecha, who was allowed to see her. Finally she fell ill; the disguised Odin then said he had medicine with which to cure her but that it would cause a violent reaction. On Odin's advice, the king tied Rinda to her bed, and Odin proceeded to rape her. From the rape was born Váli, who would later avenge Balderus.[1][2][3]
Óðinn’s rape of Rindr is described once outside the Gesta Danorum, in a line of stanza 3 of Sigurðardrápa, a poem by Kormákr Ögmundarson praising Sigurðr Hlaðajarl, who ruled around Trondheim in the mid-10th century. Like other such praise-poems, it is generally assumed to be genuine rather than a later pseudo-historical composition. Kormákr’s verse contains the statement, seið Yggr til Rindar (Yggr [Óðinn] ?enchanted Rindr),[4] denoting Óðinn’s magical seduction of Rindr with the verb síða. This suggests that Kormakr thought the magic known as seiðr was integral to Óðinn’s wooing of Rindr, and is important evidence for Óðinn's association with this kind of magic. Another passage that may refer to the same event is in verse ..."
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Ilma WIkipediata, kuidas seda teaksid ja leiaksid ?
Sellega sai lammutatud atrtiklis mainitud jõudude Eesti salk, kes sellesse pettusesse tõmmata prooviti, et mis islamlaste silmis üli irooniline tundus... see häbiplek meil jäi saaamata ja sellest oma versiooni tegime.. tarkuse saime... kuid ettevaatlik peame olema, sellistesse ämbritesse mitte asumisel edaspidi...
lihtne on vaadata, kas tegu on alkoholide, lõtvusega, liig karmusega ilma ilu ja praktilise puumajade armastus.... need viimased asjad annavad teada, kui need olemas siis pigem suurema usaldusega normaalne juurtes, kui pikka aega puudu ja inimene projektides elanud ja ei tea kust sündinud. sis omamoodi kahtlane...
eeltavastienamuses
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindr
8 April 2018 17:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See küll inimpsüühikale multifilmilikult näidatud, kergeks arusaamiseks, kuid need kellest siin jutt, Maamehed,
ärge niisama oma naisi kõrgteadvuslike ka süüdistama kippuge, sest oma suuruses unustasite kui suured temajahil on..
Need kes siin kirjeldatud, saavad sellegagi hakkama mitmet pidi pärisnaistele ligi tikkudes, ja samakergelt võtma peab ka neiu seda, sest kes teda kuulaks ja mõistaks peale naiste, kellega pärisjuttu saab omasilmas rääkida kui seda tarvis.
Ja just nende piiridudeta andelid.. kes siin maanaisi ammu jahtinud ... nemad nii nende kui muude alatumate moodustel, ligitikuvad ja saavad, ka parimate põgenete eest kellel kuninglikud kaitsed
https://www.gotquestions.org/angelic-humans.html
Näiteks lugege selle sama Rindiri vaeva mida ta pidi selle ... ei taha nime mainidagi.. kellega nägema:
teises lõigus:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindr
_______________
Questions page:
" The Bible says that God created “all angels” as “ministering spirits” (Hebrews 1:14). If “all” of the angels are “spirits,” then there are none created with human bodies. The Bible says that mankind was formed of physical material and animated by the breath of God (Genesis 2:7). No human-angel hybrid or special class of “earth angel” is ever mentioned in the Bible. Psalm 8:5 is speaking of humans, not angels in human form.
ärge niisama oma naisi kõrgteadvuslike ka süüdistama kippuge, sest oma suuruses unustasite kui suured temajahil on..
Need kes siin kirjeldatud, saavad sellegagi hakkama mitmet pidi pärisnaistele ligi tikkudes, ja samakergelt võtma peab ka neiu seda, sest kes teda kuulaks ja mõistaks peale naiste, kellega pärisjuttu saab omasilmas rääkida kui seda tarvis.
Ja just nende piiridudeta andelid.. kes siin maanaisi ammu jahtinud ... nemad nii nende kui muude alatumate moodustel, ligitikuvad ja saavad, ka parimate põgenete eest kellel kuninglikud kaitsed
https://www.gotquestions.org/angelic-humans.html
Näiteks lugege selle sama Rindiri vaeva mida ta pidi selle ... ei taha nime mainidagi.. kellega nägema:
teises lõigus:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindr
_______________
Questions page:
" The Bible says that God created “all angels” as “ministering spirits” (Hebrews 1:14). If “all” of the angels are “spirits,” then there are none created with human bodies. The Bible says that mankind was formed of physical material and animated by the breath of God (Genesis 2:7). No human-angel hybrid or special class of “earth angel” is ever mentioned in the Bible. Psalm 8:5 is speaking of humans, not angels in human form.
https://www.gotquestions.org/angelic-humans.html
8 April 2018 17:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ka Eestikanalite täiendusi kunagi:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnmE-krEIM-hlL-eD2RDIvQ/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnmE-krEIM-hlL-eD2RDIvQ/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnmE-krEIM-hlL-eD2RDIvQ/videos
8 April 2018 17:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tavainimsena, lihtorganismi elu ettekujutmaine ja sellele keskendumine, et see ongi põhiolemus ja kõik muu lihtsalt see sama mis hirarhiliselt üle pea kasvanud elementaarse füüsika ja matemaaatika, olukorra kaudu... ka see püüdlus, vaata, et raskeimgi veel, sest tundub samas olema meelelõtvus ja alluvus teadmatusele milele veel ei peaks, kui pole selle turvalisuses kindlat turvatunnet, et võib lasta minna,
kuid seegi meelde jätma peaksid, et ehk alles siin minema hakkab kui minna lased
//rahaLuule seegi .. saab olema, sellepõhjal tegema
kuid seegi meelde jätma peaksid, et ehk alles siin minema hakkab kui minna lased
//rahaLuule seegi .. saab olema, sellepõhjal tegema
8 April 2018 17:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kes kauamõtlejatest poleks ennast siis läbi mõelnud mitmes ajas korraga ja mitmes virtuaal ajas karantiinis olevana, nii laboris testina olevas nii unes kui masina naljatamises maailmapilti omaarust ise suunav, ... ja kui see isegi on, isesuunatav, siis selleni jõudes peagi avastad, et seegi püünis sulle antud, et saaksid teha kindlas konteineris mida arvad saavat vaja olema ning su mõtted ja plaanid reaal kehade kaudu siis kas maailmadesse suunatakse... kust aegajalt otseühendusi tekitatakse õvi siis selliseid tundeid... ja palju palju muud nii oma taimsetest kui loomsetest olmeistest, nii kõikide hinges ja kehas olev osaliselt kellel vaja kui ka enamuste mäelestuste ja teadmiste osana mille väiksmaks eraisikuliseks teadvuseks, kodanikuks ennast aegajalt taandada lased nagu näiliselt näib kõigil ümberingi olema
Ohh mida kõike veel, mis tundub, eriaegadel päris piisavalt reaalne
Ohh mida kõike veel, mis tundub, eriaegadel päris piisavalt reaalne
8 April 2018 17:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Violetne/lilla pidi kõrgeima shara värv olema, kuna seda pakuti.. siis vast jätsin ta ka nii : )
8 April 2018 17:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehk ka nii on turvaline
8 April 2018 17:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ühtepidi Armastus esile tuleb, Armastuse , esimese Armastuse osas, teisipidi, esimese armastuseni jõuab läbi jumalani jõudmises.
KUid eks seda sobilikust veel mõelda, kuidas parem kuid ehk ka nii on
KUid eks seda sobilikust veel mõelda, kuidas parem kuid ehk ka nii on
8 April 2018 17:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jasiis see lause upsakasu, solvang või teadmatusena kõlaks, nii mitmele grupile eri põhjustel,
lisaks grupp kelle vb ka igav v oletatav/kujutletav
lisaks grupp kelle vb ka igav v oletatav/kujutletav
8 April 2018 16:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuigi, pärisusklikutele seegi lause eip sobi lõpuks ja kõikidele kes ennast hästi tunda tahavad seles osas, et kas nad teavad
8 April 2018 16:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
olles
8 April 2018 16:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi, see tähendab, et kui oled saatuse hooleks sedasi hakanud elama, et oled võimeline kaudselt kahtlustama, siis kas see tähendab, et ... inimese olemus tuleb kahtluse alla tal endal sättida, selle arusaamise äärel avatavasti olle?
8 April 2018 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
st: Butler
8 April 2018 16:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Grupitade:
Kõigil Wikimedia Eesti liikmetel tuleks teha järgnevat:
* Minna lehele http://ev100.miljonpluss.ut.ee/ ja registreerida end
kampaanias osalema ning kirjutada 14. märtsiks vähemalt üks artikkel,
aga soovitavalt mitu;
* Kutsuda sama tegema vähemalt kümme sõpra -- seda võib teha
sotsiaalmeedia abil, aga kõige parem on veenda neid osalema isikliku
silmast silma suhtluse teel, ka võiks sellega kaasneda lubadus artikli
kirjutamisel abistada;
* Kõik Facebooki kasutajad peavad minema kohe sündmuse
https://facebook.com/events/134436134044764/ lehele ja tegema kahte asja:
1) Vajuta sündmuse kaanepildi all paremal nuppu "Jaga" (või "Share") ja
siis "Share as Post" ning pane kirja, miks sa kampaanias osaled ning
miks peaks seda tegema teised. Tee seda täiesti ühemõtteliselt,
igasuguse vikipedisti valehäbi võib unustada, Vikipeedia täiendamine
peab olema meie kõigi asi, sest ainult nii on entsüklopeedia koostamisel
eesti keeles mõtet.
2) Vajuta sündmuse kaanepildi all paremal nuppu "Jaga" (või "Share") ja
siis "Kutsu sõpru" ("Invite friends"?) ning vali nimekirjast vähemalt 30
sõpra, keda kutsud kampaanias osalema. Usalda sõprade kutsumisel
intuitsiooni, tegelikult on palju rohkemad meist valmis Vikipeediasse
kirjutama, kui me arvata oskame. Asi on pihtahakkamises ja just sinu
kutse võib ola see, mis julgustab alustama.
* Mine sündmuse https://facebook.com/events/2054688914809744/ lehele ja
tee eelnevad kaks punkti läbi sõpradega, kes elavad Tartus või kellel
võib olla enda isikus või lähikondlaste seas vmt viisil mingit pistmist
Tartuga.
* Leia aega tulla ise järgmisel laupäeval kl 12-17 Tartu
kirjutamismaratonile sTARTUp Hubi Raekoja pl 16 ja võta kaasa mõned
neist sõpradest, keda sa osalema kutsusid.
Me oleme saanud Vikipeediat tegudega tunnustama sada teadlast ja
ühiskonnategelast alates vabariigi presidendist, teaduste akadeemia
presidendist kuni ülikoolide rektorite, kirjanike, kunstnikeni jne jne.
Nüüd peame näitama, et kuigi nende sümboolne toetus on Vikipeedia jaoks
oluline, siis tegelikult kirjutavad artikleid Vikipeediasse täiesti
tavalised inimesed -- ja teevad seda tegelikult veel rohkem ja paremini
kui korüfeed jt kutsutud kirjutajad.
Kampaania eesmärk on saada emakeelepäevaks kirjutajatega liituma 1000
inimest. Kui aga liitub ja kirjutab artikleid lisaks esisajale alla
kahesaja n-ö lihtsureliku, siis on kampaania ühemõtteliselt
läbikukkunud. Kuid madalaid eesmärke ei ole mõtete seada ja, palun,
andke selle kampaania jaoks oma maksimum -- millal siis veel pingutada,
kui mitte praegu?
Tänan tähelepanu eest, nüüd tegudele!
Märt
Kõigil Wikimedia Eesti liikmetel tuleks teha järgnevat:
* Minna lehele http://ev100.miljonpluss.ut.ee/ ja registreerida end
kampaanias osalema ning kirjutada 14. märtsiks vähemalt üks artikkel,
aga soovitavalt mitu;
* Kutsuda sama tegema vähemalt kümme sõpra -- seda võib teha
sotsiaalmeedia abil, aga kõige parem on veenda neid osalema isikliku
silmast silma suhtluse teel, ka võiks sellega kaasneda lubadus artikli
kirjutamisel abistada;
* Kõik Facebooki kasutajad peavad minema kohe sündmuse
https://facebook.com/events/134436134044764/ lehele ja tegema kahte asja:
1) Vajuta sündmuse kaanepildi all paremal nuppu "Jaga" (või "Share") ja
siis "Share as Post" ning pane kirja, miks sa kampaanias osaled ning
miks peaks seda tegema teised. Tee seda täiesti ühemõtteliselt,
igasuguse vikipedisti valehäbi võib unustada, Vikipeedia täiendamine
peab olema meie kõigi asi, sest ainult nii on entsüklopeedia koostamisel
eesti keeles mõtet.
2) Vajuta sündmuse kaanepildi all paremal nuppu "Jaga" (või "Share") ja
siis "Kutsu sõpru" ("Invite friends"?) ning vali nimekirjast vähemalt 30
sõpra, keda kutsud kampaanias osalema. Usalda sõprade kutsumisel
intuitsiooni, tegelikult on palju rohkemad meist valmis Vikipeediasse
kirjutama, kui me arvata oskame. Asi on pihtahakkamises ja just sinu
kutse võib ola see, mis julgustab alustama.
* Mine sündmuse https://facebook.com/events/2054688914809744/ lehele ja
tee eelnevad kaks punkti läbi sõpradega, kes elavad Tartus või kellel
võib olla enda isikus või lähikondlaste seas vmt viisil mingit pistmist
Tartuga.
* Leia aega tulla ise järgmisel laupäeval kl 12-17 Tartu
kirjutamismaratonile sTARTUp Hubi Raekoja pl 16 ja võta kaasa mõned
neist sõpradest, keda sa osalema kutsusid.
Me oleme saanud Vikipeediat tegudega tunnustama sada teadlast ja
ühiskonnategelast alates vabariigi presidendist, teaduste akadeemia
presidendist kuni ülikoolide rektorite, kirjanike, kunstnikeni jne jne.
Nüüd peame näitama, et kuigi nende sümboolne toetus on Vikipeedia jaoks
oluline, siis tegelikult kirjutavad artikleid Vikipeediasse täiesti
tavalised inimesed -- ja teevad seda tegelikult veel rohkem ja paremini
kui korüfeed jt kutsutud kirjutajad.
Kampaania eesmärk on saada emakeelepäevaks kirjutajatega liituma 1000
inimest. Kui aga liitub ja kirjutab artikleid lisaks esisajale alla
kahesaja n-ö lihtsureliku, siis on kampaania ühemõtteliselt
läbikukkunud. Kuid madalaid eesmärke ei ole mõtete seada ja, palun,
andke selle kampaania jaoks oma maksimum -- millal siis veel pingutada,
kui mitte praegu?
Tänan tähelepanu eest, nüüd tegudele!
Märt
http://ev100.miljonpluss.ut.ee/
8 April 2018 14:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eva Lepik sai ka kena olulise kirja, mis üks SADADEST näidetest, Wikipedia olulisusest, kuid pikas tulevikus on see olulisus peaaegu hoomamatu:
Ma sain täna oma tuttavalt kirja, milles ta tänab vikipediste:
"sest ainus leht, kust saab reaalset ja täielikku infi haldusreformi
järel muutunud valdadest ja nende nimedest, on et.wikipedia. (Oh neid
artikleid ja arvamusi eiteakellele ja eiteamilleks, mis mujal lehtedel
lahti löövad!)
Kummardan ja soovin edu."
See inimene sattus asja uurima "tänu" sellele, et "kui auto tehnilises
passis on auto registreeritud omavalitsuses, mida enam ei eksisteeri, on
see tehniline pass kehtetu". Nüüd, nagu selgub, on Vikipeedia vist ainus
koht, kust saab järele vaadata, kas selline tarviline dokument kehtib
või on vaja välja vahetada.
Ühinen tänuavaldustega kõigile, kes on haldusreformi Vikipeedias
kajastamises osalenud.
Jõudu ja ilusat kevadet kõigile!
Eva Lepik
https://www.ohtuleht.ee/868507/autojuhid-mures-kas-politsei-saab-auto-registreerimistunnistusel-aegunud-elukohainfo-parast-trahvi-teha
Ma sain täna oma tuttavalt kirja, milles ta tänab vikipediste:
"sest ainus leht, kust saab reaalset ja täielikku infi haldusreformi
järel muutunud valdadest ja nende nimedest, on et.wikipedia. (Oh neid
artikleid ja arvamusi eiteakellele ja eiteamilleks, mis mujal lehtedel
lahti löövad!)
Kummardan ja soovin edu."
See inimene sattus asja uurima "tänu" sellele, et "kui auto tehnilises
passis on auto registreeritud omavalitsuses, mida enam ei eksisteeri, on
see tehniline pass kehtetu". Nüüd, nagu selgub, on Vikipeedia vist ainus
koht, kust saab järele vaadata, kas selline tarviline dokument kehtib
või on vaja välja vahetada.
Ühinen tänuavaldustega kõigile, kes on haldusreformi Vikipeedias
kajastamises osalenud.
Jõudu ja ilusat kevadet kõigile!
Eva Lepik
https://www.ohtuleht.ee/868507/autojuhid-mures-kas-politsei-saab-auto-registreerimistunnistusel-aegunud-elukohainfo-parast-trahvi-teha
https://www.ohtuleht.ee/868507/autojuhid-mures-kas-politsei-saab-auto-registreerimistunnistusel-aegunud-elukohainfo-parast-trahvi-teha
8 April 2018 14:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
MTÜ Eesti Fotopärand, Wikimedia Eesti
pressiteade https://goo.gl/9eRH5i
27.03.2018
Digipärandi autoriõigust selgitavad deklaratsioonid jõuavad kolmandana eestikeelse tõlkeni
Digitaalselt kättesaadavaks tehtud kultuuripärandit saab hakata tähistama ka eesti keelde tõlgitud autoriõigusliku seisundi deklaratsioonidega.
Mittetulundusühingute Eesti Fotopärand ja Wikimedia Eesti eestvedamisel on inglise keelest eesti keelde tõlgitud üle-euroopalise kultuuripärandiportaali Europeana ja Ameerika Digiraamatukogu (DPLA) loodud autoriõigusliku seisundi deklaratsioonid, mille eesmärk on standardsel moel tähistada ja selgitada digiteeritud kultuuripärandiobjektide autoriõiguslikku seisundit ning teoste taaskasutamisvõimalusi.
Juba aastaid on toimunud ja lähematel aastatel peaks veelgi intensiivistuma kultuuripärandi digiteerimine, mille eesmärk on kultuuripärand paremini kättesaadavaks teha ning uude ringlusse, sh taaskasutusse suunata. Samas takistab digiteeritud kultuuripärandi taaskasutamist väga sageli just õiguslik segadus, kuivõrd korrektselt on fikseerimata teoste autoriõiguste staatus.
“Võrreldes nt Skandinaavia maadega on Eestis kultuuripärandi autoriõiguste seis segasem, milles on oma roll kindlasti nõukogude perioodil, kus autoriõigustele pöörati vähe tähelepanu, aga ka taasiseseisvumisperioodil on üldine teadlikkus autoriõigustest pigem puudulik, nii et sageli on just autoriõiguse varaliste õiguste staatus mingi materjali muuseumi või arhiivi kogusse jõudmisel korrektselt lepinguliselt fikseerimata,” osutab MTÜ Eesti Fotopärand juhatuse liige Vahur Puik ning lisab, et põhjalik autoriõiguslik inventuur on möödapääsmatult vajalik kõigis meie kultuuripärandikogudes.
Rightsstatements.org konsortsium on koostanud 12 autoriõigusliku seisundi deklaratsiooni, millega nii inim- kui ka masinloetavalt tähistada erinevad autoriõiguslikud staatused, et kõigil oleks võimalik lihtsalt mõista, millised on konkreetse kultuuripärandiobjekti kasutamise võimalused. Valminud on deklaratsioonide eestikeelne tõlge, mis enne lõplikku kinnitamist on 4 nädala jooksul avatud kommenteerimisele. Seejuures on eestikeelne tõlge alles teine nii kaugele jõudnud tõlge – kuu algul jõudis avalikustamiseni deklaratsioonide saksakeelne tõlge, mis ootab kommentaare käesoleva nädala lõpuni.
Deklaratsioonid jagunevad kolme laiemasse kategooriasse: 1) kaitstud õigused, 2) vabaks läinud õigused ning 3) määratlemata õigused. Esimesse jaotusse kuuluvad deklaratsioonid “Kehtiv autoriõigus”, “Kehtiv autoriõigus – EL orbteos”, “Kehtiv autoriõigus – õiguste valdaja(d) ei ole leitavad või tuvastatavad”, “Kehtiv autoriõigus – lubatud hariduslik kasutus”, “Kehtiv autoriõigus – lubatud mitteäriline kasutus”, teise kategooriasse “Autoriõigus ei kehti – ainult mitteäriline kasutus”, “Autoriõigus ei kehti – muud teadaolevad õiguslikud piirangud”, “Autoriõigus ei kehti – lepingulised piirangud”, “Autoriõigus ei kehti – Ameerika Ühendriigid” ning kolmandasse “Autoriõiguslik seisund hindamata”, “Autoriõiguslik seisund tuvastamata” ja “Autoriõigus teadaolevalt ei kehti”. On oluline rõhutada, et deklaratsioonide eesmärk on katta kõik maailmas leiduvad erijuhud, sh sellised, mida ei peeta heaks praktikaks (nt “Autoriõigus ei kehti – ainult mitteäriline kasutus”), aga mis sellegipoolest võivad mingites kogudes kasutusel olla.
“On selge, et kogudesse kuuluvate teoste autoriõigusliku seisundi täpsustamine on ülimahukas töö ning deklaratsioonide tõlge ei ole mingi võluvits. Korrastamine on võimalik järk-järgult – esialgu määratlemata õiguste markeerimine ning seejärel aja jooksul autoriõiguse täpsema staatuse, nt ka selle aegumise väljaselgitamine,” kommenteerib Eva Lepik Wikimedia Eesti juhatusest, kes ise tõlkis mullu eesti keelde avaliku omandi manifesti.
MTÜd Eesti Fotopärand ning Wikimedia Eesti ei ole ise kultuuripärandikollektsioonide valdajad, vaid pigem vahendajad-taaskasutajad – Eesti avalikes kogudes leiduvat vaatelist pildimaterjali saavad kõik huvilised aidata ühisloome korras kaardistada ja üle pildistada Ajapaiga platvormil ning Wikimedia-liikumine, mis veab Vikipeedia võrguentsüklopeediat ning teisi sõsarprojekte, tegeleb ülemaailmselt sellega, et kehtivuse kaotanud autoriõigusega või vaba litsentsi alla lubatud kultuuripärand jõuaks nt Wikimedia Commonsi pildipanka ning sealtkaudu lihtsamalt kõigi huvilisteni.
Deklaratsioonide tõlkimise algatajad loodavad, et ka Eesti mäluasutused astuvad samme, et rahvusvahelise algatusega liituda ning deklaratsioonid oma kogudes ning kogusid digitaalselt vahendavates repositooriumides nagu Muis, Digar, AIS ja Fotis, Etera, Kivike, E-varamu jt kasutusele võtta.
Eestindamise järge ootavad nüüd ka Creative Commonsi litsentsid, millega viimati tegeldi HITSAs 2010. aastal, ent töö on pärast seda soikunud, nii et ametlikke eestikeelseid litsentsitekste ja selgitusi ei ole nii avaandmete kui ka kultuuripärandi kontekstis väga oluliste CC0 litsentsi ja Public Domain Mark tähistuse kohta, rääkimata kogu ülejäänud Creative Commonsi litsentsiperekonnast, mis on mõeldud loometeoste varaliste autoriõiguste paindlikumaks reguleerimiseks.
Autoriõigusliku seisundi deklaratsioonide tõlkimist toetasid Kultuurkapitali rahvakultuuri ning kujutava ja rakenduskunsti sihtkapitalid. Tõlkis Tanel Pern, toimetasid Raul Veede ja Raivo Ruusalepp.
Rohkem infot
Vahur Puik <vahur@ajapaik.ee>, 50 34 241, MTÜ Eesti Fotopärand
Eva Lepik <eva@wikimedia.ee>, 52 39 532, Wikimedia Eesti
Rightsstatements tõlgete lehekülg:
http://rightsstatements.org/en/documentation/translations.html
Otseviide eestikeelsele tõlkele, mis on kommenteerimiseks avatud 27. aprillini:
https://goo.gl/9eRH5i
pressiteade https://goo.gl/9eRH5i
27.03.2018
Digipärandi autoriõigust selgitavad deklaratsioonid jõuavad kolmandana eestikeelse tõlkeni
Digitaalselt kättesaadavaks tehtud kultuuripärandit saab hakata tähistama ka eesti keelde tõlgitud autoriõigusliku seisundi deklaratsioonidega.
Mittetulundusühingute Eesti Fotopärand ja Wikimedia Eesti eestvedamisel on inglise keelest eesti keelde tõlgitud üle-euroopalise kultuuripärandiportaali Europeana ja Ameerika Digiraamatukogu (DPLA) loodud autoriõigusliku seisundi deklaratsioonid, mille eesmärk on standardsel moel tähistada ja selgitada digiteeritud kultuuripärandiobjektide autoriõiguslikku seisundit ning teoste taaskasutamisvõimalusi.
Juba aastaid on toimunud ja lähematel aastatel peaks veelgi intensiivistuma kultuuripärandi digiteerimine, mille eesmärk on kultuuripärand paremini kättesaadavaks teha ning uude ringlusse, sh taaskasutusse suunata. Samas takistab digiteeritud kultuuripärandi taaskasutamist väga sageli just õiguslik segadus, kuivõrd korrektselt on fikseerimata teoste autoriõiguste staatus.
“Võrreldes nt Skandinaavia maadega on Eestis kultuuripärandi autoriõiguste seis segasem, milles on oma roll kindlasti nõukogude perioodil, kus autoriõigustele pöörati vähe tähelepanu, aga ka taasiseseisvumisperioodil on üldine teadlikkus autoriõigustest pigem puudulik, nii et sageli on just autoriõiguse varaliste õiguste staatus mingi materjali muuseumi või arhiivi kogusse jõudmisel korrektselt lepinguliselt fikseerimata,” osutab MTÜ Eesti Fotopärand juhatuse liige Vahur Puik ning lisab, et põhjalik autoriõiguslik inventuur on möödapääsmatult vajalik kõigis meie kultuuripärandikogudes.
Rightsstatements.org konsortsium on koostanud 12 autoriõigusliku seisundi deklaratsiooni, millega nii inim- kui ka masinloetavalt tähistada erinevad autoriõiguslikud staatused, et kõigil oleks võimalik lihtsalt mõista, millised on konkreetse kultuuripärandiobjekti kasutamise võimalused. Valminud on deklaratsioonide eestikeelne tõlge, mis enne lõplikku kinnitamist on 4 nädala jooksul avatud kommenteerimisele. Seejuures on eestikeelne tõlge alles teine nii kaugele jõudnud tõlge – kuu algul jõudis avalikustamiseni deklaratsioonide saksakeelne tõlge, mis ootab kommentaare käesoleva nädala lõpuni.
Deklaratsioonid jagunevad kolme laiemasse kategooriasse: 1) kaitstud õigused, 2) vabaks läinud õigused ning 3) määratlemata õigused. Esimesse jaotusse kuuluvad deklaratsioonid “Kehtiv autoriõigus”, “Kehtiv autoriõigus – EL orbteos”, “Kehtiv autoriõigus – õiguste valdaja(d) ei ole leitavad või tuvastatavad”, “Kehtiv autoriõigus – lubatud hariduslik kasutus”, “Kehtiv autoriõigus – lubatud mitteäriline kasutus”, teise kategooriasse “Autoriõigus ei kehti – ainult mitteäriline kasutus”, “Autoriõigus ei kehti – muud teadaolevad õiguslikud piirangud”, “Autoriõigus ei kehti – lepingulised piirangud”, “Autoriõigus ei kehti – Ameerika Ühendriigid” ning kolmandasse “Autoriõiguslik seisund hindamata”, “Autoriõiguslik seisund tuvastamata” ja “Autoriõigus teadaolevalt ei kehti”. On oluline rõhutada, et deklaratsioonide eesmärk on katta kõik maailmas leiduvad erijuhud, sh sellised, mida ei peeta heaks praktikaks (nt “Autoriõigus ei kehti – ainult mitteäriline kasutus”), aga mis sellegipoolest võivad mingites kogudes kasutusel olla.
“On selge, et kogudesse kuuluvate teoste autoriõigusliku seisundi täpsustamine on ülimahukas töö ning deklaratsioonide tõlge ei ole mingi võluvits. Korrastamine on võimalik järk-järgult – esialgu määratlemata õiguste markeerimine ning seejärel aja jooksul autoriõiguse täpsema staatuse, nt ka selle aegumise väljaselgitamine,” kommenteerib Eva Lepik Wikimedia Eesti juhatusest, kes ise tõlkis mullu eesti keelde avaliku omandi manifesti.
MTÜd Eesti Fotopärand ning Wikimedia Eesti ei ole ise kultuuripärandikollektsioonide valdajad, vaid pigem vahendajad-taaskasutajad – Eesti avalikes kogudes leiduvat vaatelist pildimaterjali saavad kõik huvilised aidata ühisloome korras kaardistada ja üle pildistada Ajapaiga platvormil ning Wikimedia-liikumine, mis veab Vikipeedia võrguentsüklopeediat ning teisi sõsarprojekte, tegeleb ülemaailmselt sellega, et kehtivuse kaotanud autoriõigusega või vaba litsentsi alla lubatud kultuuripärand jõuaks nt Wikimedia Commonsi pildipanka ning sealtkaudu lihtsamalt kõigi huvilisteni.
Deklaratsioonide tõlkimise algatajad loodavad, et ka Eesti mäluasutused astuvad samme, et rahvusvahelise algatusega liituda ning deklaratsioonid oma kogudes ning kogusid digitaalselt vahendavates repositooriumides nagu Muis, Digar, AIS ja Fotis, Etera, Kivike, E-varamu jt kasutusele võtta.
Eestindamise järge ootavad nüüd ka Creative Commonsi litsentsid, millega viimati tegeldi HITSAs 2010. aastal, ent töö on pärast seda soikunud, nii et ametlikke eestikeelseid litsentsitekste ja selgitusi ei ole nii avaandmete kui ka kultuuripärandi kontekstis väga oluliste CC0 litsentsi ja Public Domain Mark tähistuse kohta, rääkimata kogu ülejäänud Creative Commonsi litsentsiperekonnast, mis on mõeldud loometeoste varaliste autoriõiguste paindlikumaks reguleerimiseks.
Autoriõigusliku seisundi deklaratsioonide tõlkimist toetasid Kultuurkapitali rahvakultuuri ning kujutava ja rakenduskunsti sihtkapitalid. Tõlkis Tanel Pern, toimetasid Raul Veede ja Raivo Ruusalepp.
Rohkem infot
Vahur Puik <vahur@ajapaik.ee>, 50 34 241, MTÜ Eesti Fotopärand
Eva Lepik <eva@wikimedia.ee>, 52 39 532, Wikimedia Eesti
Rightsstatements tõlgete lehekülg:
http://rightsstatements.org/en/documentation/translations.html
Otseviide eestikeelsele tõlkele, mis on kommenteerimiseks avatud 27. aprillini:
https://goo.gl/9eRH5i
https://goo.gl/9eRH5i
8 April 2018 14:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
As no one watching anyway, am assume is safe to archive some of that as well.
8 April 2018 14:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Iraq point is true... alway's have made us wonder as well..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-HRSvrMPVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HLjC53emUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-HRSvrMPVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HLjC53emUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-HRSvrMPVY
8 April 2018 14:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:. can we not choose better narrator ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4phNuwx8Hs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4phNuwx8Hs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4phNuwx8Hs
8 April 2018 14:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYKy4dfSF-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYKy4dfSF-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYKy4dfSF-o
8 April 2018 14:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuMTzyxAuzs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuMTzyxAuzs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuMTzyxAuzs
8 April 2018 14:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
päris hulk olulisi videosi juba sellest listist likvideeritud.. kuid eks need kes kunagi koopiad aid thetud kui oldi piisavalt targad ja suurelt mõeldud.. siis jah.. aga kuna riiklikuks saladuseks osad asjad suunatud.. siis ega kõike ei pruugi leida ka mida nad arvasid, et nende omad ainutl vaatavad ja seega algusaegadel igast toorest materiali oli kus saab ridadevahelt plaane väljalugeda kui lukustatud ülikooli ajudega inimesed just kuivalt infot ei vaata... ajud mis lukku pantud nende poolt kes infot jagavad.. et teatud sorty inimesed sellest mööda vaataks.. ajalooline ylikoolide tarksute kontroll jms .. internatisonaalide struktuurid, plaanid, professorite ja kindlat moodi tarkuste lääne ühisonda establismendi panemise osas.. et ..et saaks trurvaliselt mitukymend aastat jooksutada ajast ees asju.. ja me oma targad ise püüdlused maha tiriks.. ja valedele teada annaks. .kes muud mood iasja korda teevad nii, et midagi erilist märki ei jääks
8 April 2018 14:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
More a bit:
Vladimir Tonkov at the conference "Modern bioenergy exchange practices: science, reality, application"
https://youtu.be/0Q2EgFCpP5o?list=PL56D11FDEC83E9514&t=54
Vladimir Tonkov at the conference "Modern bioenergy exchange practices: science, reality, application"
https://youtu.be/0Q2EgFCpP5o?list=PL56D11FDEC83E9514&t=54
https://youtu.be/0Q2EgFCpP5o?list=PL56D11FDEC83E9514&t=54
8 April 2018 14:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And i Guess we know these man related things in this video.. spesiali Alexander Dugin (father of Greatest Thought power of entire Russia future empire)
Yury Mamleev about Yevgeny Golovin
after death of him
https://youtu.be/1Cj7RME5npY?list=PL56D11FDEC83E9514
Yury Mamleev about Yevgeny Golovin
after death of him
https://youtu.be/1Cj7RME5npY?list=PL56D11FDEC83E9514
https://youtu.be/1Cj7RME5npY?list=PL56D11FDEC83E9514
8 April 2018 14:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lattter in time to take in to account
https://youtu.be/oRJDn2EdnVI?list=PL56D11FDEC83E9514&t=98
https://youtu.be/oRJDn2EdnVI?list=PL56D11FDEC83E9514&t=98
https://youtu.be/oRJDn2EdnVI?list=PL56D11FDEC83E9514&t=98
8 April 2018 14:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Stong innit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPkqUX9rqj4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPkqUX9rqj4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPkqUX9rqj4
8 April 2018 14:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
From lockpicking to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47t0pdi39z0&index=30&t=0s&list=PL9782F0ABF5106338https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47t0pdi39z0&index=30&t=0s&list=PL9782F0ABF5106338
8 April 2018 14:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Great channel bdw:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9782F0ABF5106338
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9782F0ABF5106338
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9782F0ABF5106338
8 April 2018 13:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Full lenght:
Yuri Bezmenov: Deception Was My Job (Complete)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=207&v=y3qkf3bajd4
Yuri Bezmenov: Psychological Warfare Subversion & Control of Western Society (Complete)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g
Yuri Bezmenov: Deception Was My Job (Complete)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=207&v=y3qkf3bajd4
Yuri Bezmenov: Psychological Warfare Subversion & Control of Western Society (Complete)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=207&v=y3qkf3bajd4
8 April 2018 13:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
also cute and retro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E66oM2iAMwM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E66oM2iAMwM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E66oM2iAMwM
8 April 2018 13:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmGUhmwKKfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmGUhmwKKfg
8 April 2018 13:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// okey i leave this feed here for current main stream, another thread for retro videos
8 April 2018 13:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But also, not meant to be in this list, but these kind of topic have to be taken in to account, to understand how it is possible:
https://youtu.be/yKijQfUK5VY?t=2594
https://youtu.be/yKijQfUK5VY?t=2594
https://youtu.be/yKijQfUK5VY?t=2594
8 April 2018 13:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Some other softer kind, can be skipped but still,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyQ_Iw1vcnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyQ_Iw1vcnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyQ_Iw1vcnc
8 April 2018 13:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
some mixed video in between
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwrb_G9ecf4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwrb_G9ecf4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwrb_G9ecf4
8 April 2018 13:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h35sOBYaT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h35sOBYaT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h35sOBYaT4
8 April 2018 13:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGAqYNFQdZ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGAqYNFQdZ4
8 April 2018 13:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Do not be sucker, // just for amusement as well, for old film lovers
not a lot of changes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23X14HS4gLk
not a lot of changes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23X14HS4gLk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23X14HS4gLk
8 April 2018 13:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Yea, maybe :
" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkYl_AH-qyk
" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkYl_AH-qyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkYl_AH-qyk
8 April 2018 13:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.quora.com/What-were-Frank-Zappas-attitudes-about-various-sexual-practices?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa&utm_campaign=google_rich_qa
https://www.quora.com/What-were-Frank-Zappas-attitudes-about-various-sexual-practices?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa&utm_campaign=google_rich_qa
8 April 2018 13:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.datalounge.com/thread/7544637-was-frank-zappa-homophobic-
https://www.datalounge.com/thread/7544637-was-frank-zappa-homophobic-
8 April 2018 13:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oih, Vabandust, Vikerraadios
8 April 2018 13:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"MTÜ igapäevast tööd korraldab juhatus, milles põhikirja järgi peab olema vähemalt kolm liiget.
Juhatuse koosolekud toimuvad tavaliselt kord kuus Tartus. Kui tunned huvi, küsi täpsemalt järele ja astu läbi.
https://ee.wikimedia.org/wiki/Juhtkond
Juhatuse koosolekud toimuvad tavaliselt kord kuus Tartus. Kui tunned huvi, küsi täpsemalt järele ja astu läbi.
https://ee.wikimedia.org/wiki/Juhtkond
https://ee.wikimedia.org/wiki/Juhtkond
8 April 2018 13:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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24. augustil 2002 ] loodud veebientsüklopeedias on praegu 172 656 artiklit, millega see on artiklite arvult 43. keeleversioon. See Vikipeedia versioon on Eestis ingliskeelse Vikipeedia järel külastatavuselt teisel kohal.[
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2004. aastal hakkas aktiivsete kaastööliste hulk märgatavalt suurenema. 2006. aasta märtsiks oli nende kasutajate arv, kes tegid kuus vähemalt 100 muudatust, kasvanud 20-ni. Edasi see mõnevõrra vähenes, kuid asus taas tõusule 2007. aasta keskel.[5] 2006. aastasse jääb ka suurem uute aktiivsete kaastööliste lisandumise laine. Nende hulgas alustasid seitse kasutajat, kes said hiljem administraatoriks. Näiteks valiti sama palju uusi administraatoreid kokku vahemikus 2012–2016 ja alates 2010. aastat liitunud kasutajatest on administraatoriks valitud kaheksa.
2007. aastasse jäi Eesti esimene vikipedistide kokkusaamine, mis peeti detsembris Tallinna Ülikooli ruumides
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2008. aasta juulis toimunud Wikimanial osales esimest korda ka eestikeelse Vikipeedia esindaja. Tol korral Egiptuses Aleksandrias peetud konverentsi on eri paigus korraldatud alates 2005. aastast ja see toob kokku Wikimedia Sihtasutuse koordineeritavates projektides osalejad.[13]
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6.–7. augustil 2009 toimusid Saaremaal Viki külas Mihkli Talumuuseumis esimesed Vikipeedia suvepäevad[16][17]. Seejärel on neid peetud 20.–22. augustil 2010 Valgamaal Puka vallas Kuigatsi külas[18], 8.–9. juulil 2011 Viinistul, 4.–5. augustil 2012 Muhu saarel, 10.–11. augustil 2013 Aegnal, 16.–17. augustil 2014 Naissaarel, 12.–14. augustil 2016 Prangli saarel ja 29.–30. juulil 2017 Vana-Vigalas.
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https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:MT%C3%9C_Wikimedia_Eesti/P%C3%B5hikiri
24. augustil 2002 ] loodud veebientsüklopeedias on praegu 172 656 artiklit, millega see on artiklite arvult 43. keeleversioon. See Vikipeedia versioon on Eestis ingliskeelse Vikipeedia järel külastatavuselt teisel kohal.[
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2004. aastal hakkas aktiivsete kaastööliste hulk märgatavalt suurenema. 2006. aasta märtsiks oli nende kasutajate arv, kes tegid kuus vähemalt 100 muudatust, kasvanud 20-ni. Edasi see mõnevõrra vähenes, kuid asus taas tõusule 2007. aasta keskel.[5] 2006. aastasse jääb ka suurem uute aktiivsete kaastööliste lisandumise laine. Nende hulgas alustasid seitse kasutajat, kes said hiljem administraatoriks. Näiteks valiti sama palju uusi administraatoreid kokku vahemikus 2012–2016 ja alates 2010. aastat liitunud kasutajatest on administraatoriks valitud kaheksa.
2007. aastasse jäi Eesti esimene vikipedistide kokkusaamine, mis peeti detsembris Tallinna Ülikooli ruumides
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2008. aasta juulis toimunud Wikimanial osales esimest korda ka eestikeelse Vikipeedia esindaja. Tol korral Egiptuses Aleksandrias peetud konverentsi on eri paigus korraldatud alates 2005. aastast ja see toob kokku Wikimedia Sihtasutuse koordineeritavates projektides osalejad.[13]
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6.–7. augustil 2009 toimusid Saaremaal Viki külas Mihkli Talumuuseumis esimesed Vikipeedia suvepäevad[16][17]. Seejärel on neid peetud 20.–22. augustil 2010 Valgamaal Puka vallas Kuigatsi külas[18], 8.–9. juulil 2011 Viinistul, 4.–5. augustil 2012 Muhu saarel, 10.–11. augustil 2013 Aegnal, 16.–17. augustil 2014 Naissaarel, 12.–14. augustil 2016 Prangli saarel ja 29.–30. juulil 2017 Vana-Vigalas.
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https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:MT%C3%9C_Wikimedia_Eesti/P%C3%B5hikiri
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:MT%C3%9C_Wikimedia_Eesti/P%C3%B5hikiri
8 April 2018 12:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ants Nuut
Küsis, kas likööri kommi süües kaotab inimene ka väärikuse?
Küsis, kas likööri kommi süües kaotab inimene ka väärikuse?
8 April 2018 12:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Frank Zappa vowed never to return to Britain unless he got an apology from the Queen after the Royal Albert Hall cancelled a musical performance of his notorious film score 200 Motels in 1971. Zappa did eventually return to the UK but died without getting an apology from anybody. "
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""The Albert Hall management, which at that point was very stuffy and very conservative, hadn't been told exactly what it was that was going to be performed. I think someone tipped them off that there were various songs like 'Penis Dimension' and they thought that was just totally pornographic and unacceptable, so they cancelled it. Frank's response was fury. "
Mr Palmer said he thought the Albert Hall should still feel "shame" for the decision. "Personally I'm looking forward to the Southbank Centre concert because I want to see if the music has stood the test of time. I'm absolutely sure it will be packed out. At the time I thought what the Albert Hall was doing was outrageous. And I'm sure Frank, from wherever he is, will now be saying, 'I told you so'."
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https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/frank-zappa-settles-an-old-score-after-42-years-banned-in-1971-200-motels-will-finally-be-played-in-8755933.html
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""The Albert Hall management, which at that point was very stuffy and very conservative, hadn't been told exactly what it was that was going to be performed. I think someone tipped them off that there were various songs like 'Penis Dimension' and they thought that was just totally pornographic and unacceptable, so they cancelled it. Frank's response was fury. "
Mr Palmer said he thought the Albert Hall should still feel "shame" for the decision. "Personally I'm looking forward to the Southbank Centre concert because I want to see if the music has stood the test of time. I'm absolutely sure it will be packed out. At the time I thought what the Albert Hall was doing was outrageous. And I'm sure Frank, from wherever he is, will now be saying, 'I told you so'."
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https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/frank-zappa-settles-an-old-score-after-42-years-banned-in-1971-200-motels-will-finally-be-played-in-8755933.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/frank-zappa-settles-an-old-score-after-42-years-banned-in-1971-200-motels-will-finally-be-played-in-8755933.html
8 April 2018 12:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Raja külas tegutsenud vanausuline ikoonimaalija.
Frolovi on nimetatud Eesti ainsa ikoonikoolkonna rajajaks[1] ning kõigi aegade tuntuimaks Eestis elanud ikoonimaalijaks[2]. Tallinna kunstnik Nikolai Kormašov on ütelnud: "Gavriil Frolov on XX sajandi Andrei Rubljov."[3]
Frolovi isa pidas ikoonimaalitöökoda Lätis Rēzeknes, samas omandas ka Frolov esimesed kogemused ikoonimaalijana. 19. sajandi lõpul rändas ta Venemaal: Moskvas, Novgorodis, Pihkvas, Vladimiri kubermangus, Kaasanis ja Samaaras
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Kunstnikuna järgis Gavriil Frolov hoolikalt fedossejevlaste kanoonilist tehnikat, lihtsust ja tavapärast ikonograafiat, püüdmata uuendada ikoone natuurilähedusega. Küll valis ta oma teemad laias diapasoonis, piirdumata üksnes levinud ja populaarsete pühade ja pühakutega.[1] Frolovi ikoone leidub ohtralt Peipsiääre vanausuliste kogudustes, kuid need on esindatud ka Eesti Kunstimuuseumi kogudes.[8]
Frolovist kirjutas 2003. aastal Tartu Ülikoolis magistritöö kunstiajaloolane Külli Erikson ("Ikoonimaalija Gavriil Frolov (1854–1930) ja Peipsiäärse Rajaküla ikoonimaalitöökoda", juhendaja Kaur Alttoa).
https://www.ester.ee/search~S47*est/m?SEARCH=b1603531
Frolovi on nimetatud Eesti ainsa ikoonikoolkonna rajajaks[1] ning kõigi aegade tuntuimaks Eestis elanud ikoonimaalijaks[2]. Tallinna kunstnik Nikolai Kormašov on ütelnud: "Gavriil Frolov on XX sajandi Andrei Rubljov."[3]
Frolovi isa pidas ikoonimaalitöökoda Lätis Rēzeknes, samas omandas ka Frolov esimesed kogemused ikoonimaalijana. 19. sajandi lõpul rändas ta Venemaal: Moskvas, Novgorodis, Pihkvas, Vladimiri kubermangus, Kaasanis ja Samaaras
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Kunstnikuna järgis Gavriil Frolov hoolikalt fedossejevlaste kanoonilist tehnikat, lihtsust ja tavapärast ikonograafiat, püüdmata uuendada ikoone natuurilähedusega. Küll valis ta oma teemad laias diapasoonis, piirdumata üksnes levinud ja populaarsete pühade ja pühakutega.[1] Frolovi ikoone leidub ohtralt Peipsiääre vanausuliste kogudustes, kuid need on esindatud ka Eesti Kunstimuuseumi kogudes.[8]
Frolovist kirjutas 2003. aastal Tartu Ülikoolis magistritöö kunstiajaloolane Külli Erikson ("Ikoonimaalija Gavriil Frolov (1854–1930) ja Peipsiäärse Rajaküla ikoonimaalitöökoda", juhendaja Kaur Alttoa).
https://www.ester.ee/search~S47*est/m?SEARCH=b1603531
https://www.ester.ee/search~S47*est/m?SEARCH=b1603531
8 April 2018 12:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2018: "Venemaal taastatakse vanausuliste kirikuid, kuid kogudused oma vara tagasi ei saa."
Vanausu taassünd algas 1995. aastal, kui taastati Eesti Vanausuliste Koguduste Liit. Eestis on registreeritud 11 vanausuliste kogudust: 9 Peipsimaal; Tallinnas ja Tartus kummaski üks.
Tallinna koguduste vaimulikud:
Ivan Kašev (Иван Федорович Кашев, 1945–1949),
Mihhail Abakanov (Михаил Александрович Абаканов, 1949–1961),
Andrian Rogozin (Андриан Леонидович Рогозин, 1961–1965),
Mina Baranov (Мина Иванович Баранов, 1966–1992),
Anna Vankova (Анна Борисовна Ванькова, 1992–), ja koguduse esinaine Aleksandra Fomina (Александра Ефимовна Фомина).
Eestist on pärit tuntud vanausu ikoonikirjutaja Gavriil Frolov (1854–1930) ning tema õpilased Pimen Sofronov (1898–1973) ja Mark Solntsev (1899–1957).
http://zarubezhje.narod.ru/rs/S_415.htm
Vanausu taassünd algas 1995. aastal, kui taastati Eesti Vanausuliste Koguduste Liit. Eestis on registreeritud 11 vanausuliste kogudust: 9 Peipsimaal; Tallinnas ja Tartus kummaski üks.
Tallinna koguduste vaimulikud:
Ivan Kašev (Иван Федорович Кашев, 1945–1949),
Mihhail Abakanov (Михаил Александрович Абаканов, 1949–1961),
Andrian Rogozin (Андриан Леонидович Рогозин, 1961–1965),
Mina Baranov (Мина Иванович Баранов, 1966–1992),
Anna Vankova (Анна Борисовна Ванькова, 1992–), ja koguduse esinaine Aleksandra Fomina (Александра Ефимовна Фомина).
Eestist on pärit tuntud vanausu ikoonikirjutaja Gavriil Frolov (1854–1930) ning tema õpilased Pimen Sofronov (1898–1973) ja Mark Solntsev (1899–1957).
http://zarubezhje.narod.ru/rs/S_415.htm
http://zarubezhje.narod.ru/rs/S_415.htm
8 April 2018 12:19
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Taavi Timm linud päevast päeva meile alati abi andnud, on osad viamud ja olendid kelle välja juurimisega ainult linnud tegeleda saavad
8 April 2018 12:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Veel Kuue Kuue aegadest:
"Vanausulised ei tunnista Nikoni reformidega tehtud muudatusi liturgias ja rituaalides. Nad löövad endiselt risti ette kahe sõrmega, kasutavad reformide-eelset pühakirja ja lauluraamatut. Jumalateenistustel lauldav koorilaul on ühehäälne, kasutatakse spetsiaalset arhailist noodikirja. Ristimine vanausuliste moodi toimub ristitava kolmekordse üleni vette kastmisega. Kasutatakse vana bütsantslikku ikoonimaalimisstiili, kasutatakse ka väärismetallist ja reljeefseid ikoone. Ei austata pühakuid, kes on pühakuks tunnistatud pärast 1666. aastat, kuid austatakse mõningaid oma pühakuid (nagu Avvakum Petrovitš), keda omakorda ei tunnista õigeusu kirik. Lastele valitakse nimed kirikukalendrist. "
"Vanausulised ei tunnista Nikoni reformidega tehtud muudatusi liturgias ja rituaalides. Nad löövad endiselt risti ette kahe sõrmega, kasutavad reformide-eelset pühakirja ja lauluraamatut. Jumalateenistustel lauldav koorilaul on ühehäälne, kasutatakse spetsiaalset arhailist noodikirja. Ristimine vanausuliste moodi toimub ristitava kolmekordse üleni vette kastmisega. Kasutatakse vana bütsantslikku ikoonimaalimisstiili, kasutatakse ka väärismetallist ja reljeefseid ikoone. Ei austata pühakuid, kes on pühakuks tunnistatud pärast 1666. aastat, kuid austatakse mõningaid oma pühakuid (nagu Avvakum Petrovitš), keda omakorda ei tunnista õigeusu kirik. Lastele valitakse nimed kirikukalendrist. "
8 April 2018 11:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Endale vee kiirendatud pealetõmbamine.. kuid ju see ka aitas, et siis ei hakatud nii otseselt hävitama sest aravti, et nad ise hävitavad end:
"Preestritud ehk bespopoovetsid keeldusid uues kirikus pühitsetud vaimulikke vastu võtmast ning eelistasid jääda ilma kirikliku hierarhiata. See suund oli rohkem levinud Pihkva ja Novgorodi ümbruses, kus ka õigeusu kirik ise oli demokraatlikum ja rahvalikum, kui Venemaa kesk- ja lõunaosas. Kuni 18. sajandi keskpaigani säilis neil siiski lootus, et selline olukord on ajutine ning et kusagil "metsade sügavuses" võib veel olla vana usu vaimulikke. Vennad Denissovid pidasid salajast kirjavahetust popoovetsitega, lootuses endale siiski vaimulikke saada, olgu või uues usus pühitsetuid, peaasi, et nad vanu kombeid täidaksid. Asi nurjus ning meeleheitel vanausulised hakkasid uskuma, et käes on Antikristuse valitsemisaeg ning lähenemas viimnepäev. Nad loobusid kõigist sakramentidest peale hinge päästmiseks hädapärast vajalike, – nendeks olid ristimine ja piht, mida võisid erakorralistel asjaoludel toimetada ka ilmalikud ja isegi naised. Tavaliselt valiti jumalateenistusi läbi viima vähemalt 40-aastane haritud ja üldiselt lugupeetud mees. Et kadus võimalus abielu laulatada, siis hakkas osa vanausulisi nõudma kõigilt vallalist elu (безбрачные). Tegelikkuses kujunes siiski nii, et elati vabaabielu laulatamata elukaaslastena (vene k. сожитель, сожительница). Teised tunnistasid lihtsa laulatustalituse võimalikkust (брачные). Bespopoovetsid jagunesid ka ümberristijateks ja mitteristijateks – vastavalt sellele, kas nad pidasid vajalikuks oma usku pöördunud teiste kirikute kristlasi ümber ristida. Nii kestis hargnemine väikesteks sektideks kogu 18. ja 19. sajandi.
"Preestritud ehk bespopoovetsid keeldusid uues kirikus pühitsetud vaimulikke vastu võtmast ning eelistasid jääda ilma kirikliku hierarhiata. See suund oli rohkem levinud Pihkva ja Novgorodi ümbruses, kus ka õigeusu kirik ise oli demokraatlikum ja rahvalikum, kui Venemaa kesk- ja lõunaosas. Kuni 18. sajandi keskpaigani säilis neil siiski lootus, et selline olukord on ajutine ning et kusagil "metsade sügavuses" võib veel olla vana usu vaimulikke. Vennad Denissovid pidasid salajast kirjavahetust popoovetsitega, lootuses endale siiski vaimulikke saada, olgu või uues usus pühitsetuid, peaasi, et nad vanu kombeid täidaksid. Asi nurjus ning meeleheitel vanausulised hakkasid uskuma, et käes on Antikristuse valitsemisaeg ning lähenemas viimnepäev. Nad loobusid kõigist sakramentidest peale hinge päästmiseks hädapärast vajalike, – nendeks olid ristimine ja piht, mida võisid erakorralistel asjaoludel toimetada ka ilmalikud ja isegi naised. Tavaliselt valiti jumalateenistusi läbi viima vähemalt 40-aastane haritud ja üldiselt lugupeetud mees. Et kadus võimalus abielu laulatada, siis hakkas osa vanausulisi nõudma kõigilt vallalist elu (безбрачные). Tegelikkuses kujunes siiski nii, et elati vabaabielu laulatamata elukaaslastena (vene k. сожитель, сожительница). Teised tunnistasid lihtsa laulatustalituse võimalikkust (брачные). Bespopoovetsid jagunesid ka ümberristijateks ja mitteristijateks – vastavalt sellele, kas nad pidasid vajalikuks oma usku pöördunud teiste kirikute kristlasi ümber ristida. Nii kestis hargnemine väikesteks sektideks kogu 18. ja 19. sajandi.
8 April 2018 11:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1971 alles lõppes kuna polnud eriti midagi järgi:
"Arveteõiendamine kestis Peeter I ajani, mil tagakiusamine vähenes peamiselt seetõttu, et pragmaatiline tsaar nägi vanausulistes eeskätt maksumaksjaid.
Vanausuliste seas jätkusid oma kirikukogud pagenduses, Venemaa piiri taga. Neile tegi muret puuduv vaimulikkond, kes oli suures osas füüsiliselt likvideeritud. Vanausulistel puudus piiskop, kuid ainult piiskopid võisid uusi vaimulikke ametisse pühitseda. See probleem põhjustas vanausuliste lahknemise kahte peamisse harru.
Vanausuliste seas püsis suhteliselt laialdane kirjaoskus, sest nende kätte oli jäänud hulk käibelt kõrvaldatud vaimulikku kirjandust. Lastele üritati anda algharidust – nii kloostrites kui ka kaupmehemajades. 18. sajandi alguseks oli juba tekkinud puudus kirjandusest ning asutati põrandaaluseid trükikodasid, sealhulgas Leedus ja Poolas.
19. sajandi lõpu ja 20. sajandi alguse Venemaal olid vanausulistest kaupmehed edukad tööstuste rajamisel, selle põhjusena on nähtud nii nende traditsioonilist töökust ja visadust kui ka toimivat omavahelist sotsiaalset võrgustikku. Paljud edukad vanausulised ettevõtjad (näiteks Mihhail Sirotkin ja Mihhail Brilliantov) toetasid usuelu, püüdsid korraldada paremaid suhteid riigiga, koostasid palvekirju tsaarile.
Vaimulikku kirjandust kirjutas Uurali piiskop Arseni, kes tegeles ka ulatusliku rahvavalgustusega. Tema algatusel toimusid vanausuliste kongressid ja iga-aastased kirikukogud. Tänu tema initsiatiivile alustas 1905. aastal Venemaal tööd esimene legaalne vanausuliste kirjanduse trükikoda, mis kuulus A. Simakovile.
16. aprillil 1905 andis keiser Nikolai II ukaasi usuvabaduse kohta.
1971. aastal tühistas Vene Õigeusu Kirik vanausulistele pandud kirikuvande, kuid nende kogudused on püsinud oma eraldatuses.
"Arveteõiendamine kestis Peeter I ajani, mil tagakiusamine vähenes peamiselt seetõttu, et pragmaatiline tsaar nägi vanausulistes eeskätt maksumaksjaid.
Vanausuliste seas jätkusid oma kirikukogud pagenduses, Venemaa piiri taga. Neile tegi muret puuduv vaimulikkond, kes oli suures osas füüsiliselt likvideeritud. Vanausulistel puudus piiskop, kuid ainult piiskopid võisid uusi vaimulikke ametisse pühitseda. See probleem põhjustas vanausuliste lahknemise kahte peamisse harru.
Vanausuliste seas püsis suhteliselt laialdane kirjaoskus, sest nende kätte oli jäänud hulk käibelt kõrvaldatud vaimulikku kirjandust. Lastele üritati anda algharidust – nii kloostrites kui ka kaupmehemajades. 18. sajandi alguseks oli juba tekkinud puudus kirjandusest ning asutati põrandaaluseid trükikodasid, sealhulgas Leedus ja Poolas.
19. sajandi lõpu ja 20. sajandi alguse Venemaal olid vanausulistest kaupmehed edukad tööstuste rajamisel, selle põhjusena on nähtud nii nende traditsioonilist töökust ja visadust kui ka toimivat omavahelist sotsiaalset võrgustikku. Paljud edukad vanausulised ettevõtjad (näiteks Mihhail Sirotkin ja Mihhail Brilliantov) toetasid usuelu, püüdsid korraldada paremaid suhteid riigiga, koostasid palvekirju tsaarile.
Vaimulikku kirjandust kirjutas Uurali piiskop Arseni, kes tegeles ka ulatusliku rahvavalgustusega. Tema algatusel toimusid vanausuliste kongressid ja iga-aastased kirikukogud. Tänu tema initsiatiivile alustas 1905. aastal Venemaal tööd esimene legaalne vanausuliste kirjanduse trükikoda, mis kuulus A. Simakovile.
16. aprillil 1905 andis keiser Nikolai II ukaasi usuvabaduse kohta.
1971. aastal tühistas Vene Õigeusu Kirik vanausulistele pandud kirikuvande, kuid nende kogudused on püsinud oma eraldatuses.
8 April 2018 11:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Millised kokkusattumised aastanumbrites ( lol Allar Kaljundi kokkusattumus eks:p )
" 1666.–1667. aasta Moskva kirikukogu kiitis taas kõik reformid heaks. Vanade kommete pooldajad pandi kirikuvande alla, neid hakati nimetama raskolnikuteks (раскол – vene keeles 'lõhe, skisma'). Vanausuliste seas omakorda hakati seda kirikukogu nimetama röövellikuks (разбойный) või hullumeelseks (бешеный). "
// Ning tänu selle muudatusele:
"1681. ja 1685. aasta kirikukogud andsid õnnistuse nn idainkvisitsioonile ning algas vanausuliste tagakiusamine. Rakendati surmanuhtlust, peksu, küüditamist, vara konfiskeerimist; hukatute arvu on hinnatud mitmele kümnele tuhandele. Pealöök anti vastupanijate keskusteks kujunenud kloostrite pihta, mida mõnel pool oldi sunnitud sõjaväega piirama. Tühjenenud kloostritesse toodi mujalt uued asukad, kes said ka uue vaimulikkonna alustaladeks.
Vanausulised põgenesid riigi asustamata äärealadele ja ka naaberriikidesse.
Kaluuga oblastis Borovskis piinati 1675. aastal surnuks kaks Sokovinite bojaarisoost õde – Feodossia Morozova ja Jevdokia Urussova. Vahistatud bojaarinna Morozovat ülestõstetud kahe sõrmega on maalil kujutanud Vassili Surikov. Pärast pagendust ja piinamist põletati 1682. aastal elusalt kangekaelne vanausukaitsja, ülempreester Avvakum. Tema surma järel tõusis vanausuliste vaimseks juhiks Suzdali vaimulik Nikita Dobrõnin. Ta kohtus ka patriarh Joakimiga ning suutis teoloogilises dispuudis viimase kimbatusse viia. Näis, et Joakim oli peaaegu valmis vana ja uue kombe pooldajaid ühendama. Vanausulised juubeldasid, kuid Joakim reetis Nikita ja viimane hukati.
" 1666.–1667. aasta Moskva kirikukogu kiitis taas kõik reformid heaks. Vanade kommete pooldajad pandi kirikuvande alla, neid hakati nimetama raskolnikuteks (раскол – vene keeles 'lõhe, skisma'). Vanausuliste seas omakorda hakati seda kirikukogu nimetama röövellikuks (разбойный) või hullumeelseks (бешеный). "
// Ning tänu selle muudatusele:
"1681. ja 1685. aasta kirikukogud andsid õnnistuse nn idainkvisitsioonile ning algas vanausuliste tagakiusamine. Rakendati surmanuhtlust, peksu, küüditamist, vara konfiskeerimist; hukatute arvu on hinnatud mitmele kümnele tuhandele. Pealöök anti vastupanijate keskusteks kujunenud kloostrite pihta, mida mõnel pool oldi sunnitud sõjaväega piirama. Tühjenenud kloostritesse toodi mujalt uued asukad, kes said ka uue vaimulikkonna alustaladeks.
Vanausulised põgenesid riigi asustamata äärealadele ja ka naaberriikidesse.
Kaluuga oblastis Borovskis piinati 1675. aastal surnuks kaks Sokovinite bojaarisoost õde – Feodossia Morozova ja Jevdokia Urussova. Vahistatud bojaarinna Morozovat ülestõstetud kahe sõrmega on maalil kujutanud Vassili Surikov. Pärast pagendust ja piinamist põletati 1682. aastal elusalt kangekaelne vanausukaitsja, ülempreester Avvakum. Tema surma järel tõusis vanausuliste vaimseks juhiks Suzdali vaimulik Nikita Dobrõnin. Ta kohtus ka patriarh Joakimiga ning suutis teoloogilises dispuudis viimase kimbatusse viia. Näis, et Joakim oli peaaegu valmis vana ja uue kombe pooldajaid ühendama. Vanausulised juubeldasid, kuid Joakim reetis Nikita ja viimane hukati.
8 April 2018 11:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Kaugeltki kõik usklikud ja vaimulikud ei pooldanud reforme. Nende meelest oli tegu muistsel pärandil püsiva kristliku autoriteedi hülgamisega, õigeusu ajaloo diskrediteerimisega ja tee vabaks andmisega edasisele moderniseerimisele ja ilmalikustamisele. Nad kartsid võõramaa mõjusid ja "ladina orjust". Vanausuliste vaatekohast langes kirik Antikristuse rüppe.
1658. aastal toimus kirikukogu, kus tsaar hääletas esimesena kõigi uuenduste poolt. Samal ajal suutsid Nikoni vastased tsaari veenda, et patriarhi vägevus hakkab tsaari oma varjutama. Tsaari suhted Nikoniga jahenesid tugevasti ning viimane pidi ametist lahkuma. "
1658. aastal toimus kirikukogu, kus tsaar hääletas esimesena kõigi uuenduste poolt. Samal ajal suutsid Nikoni vastased tsaari veenda, et patriarhi vägevus hakkab tsaari oma varjutama. Tsaari suhted Nikoniga jahenesid tugevasti ning viimane pidi ametist lahkuma. "
8 April 2018 11:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
NIkolai reformid (võin ette öelda, et seeni ja kanepit ei toodud pühatalitusele, küll aga igast muud nipetnäpet ja tagurpidi keeramisi näiliselt) :
Reformid seisnesid kokkuvõtlikult järgmises:
"Bütsantsliku" kahe sõrmega ristimärgi tegemise asemel "ladinlik" kolmesõrmeline.
Jeesuse nimi kirjutati kujul Иисус, mitte nagu vanasti Исус.
Ristimise, laulatuse ja pühakoja õnnistamise ajal käimine vastupäeva, mitte päripäeva.
Usutunnistuses "И в Духа Святаго Господа Истиннаго и Животворящаго" jäeti välja sõna "Истиннаго".
Kahekordse halleluuja asemel kolmekordne.
Liturgias seitsme armulaualeiva asemel viis.
Mitmehäälne poolamõjuline koorilaul.
Kaotati katoliiklaste ümberristimine.
Reformid seisnesid kokkuvõtlikult järgmises:
"Bütsantsliku" kahe sõrmega ristimärgi tegemise asemel "ladinlik" kolmesõrmeline.
Jeesuse nimi kirjutati kujul Иисус, mitte nagu vanasti Исус.
Ristimise, laulatuse ja pühakoja õnnistamise ajal käimine vastupäeva, mitte päripäeva.
Usutunnistuses "И в Духа Святаго Господа Истиннаго и Животворящаго" jäeti välja sõna "Истиннаго".
Kahekordse halleluuja asemel kolmekordne.
Liturgias seitsme armulaualeiva asemel viis.
Mitmehäälne poolamõjuline koorilaul.
Kaotati katoliiklaste ümberristimine.
8 April 2018 11:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Õigeusu kiriku jumalateenistusi viidi kuni 17. sajandini läbi kõrvuti Konstantinoopoli ja Jeruusalemma liturgilise korra järgi. 1652. aastal algatas Moskva ja kogu Venemaa patriarh Nikon reformid, mis olid suunatud rituaalide ja doktriinide vastavusse viimisele Konstantinoopoli emakirikuga. Samas oli Konstantinoopoli õigeusu kiriku liturgia vahepeal muutunud. Teda toetas Moskva tsaar Aleksei I. Tsaar ja patriarh kutsusid abiks mitmeid välismaiseid nõuandjaid (eeskätt Kreeka ja Ukraina alade uniaadikiriku vaimulikke) ning toetusid osalt ka oma isiklikule maitsele.
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanausulised
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanausulised
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanausulised
8 April 2018 11:47
Margus Meigo replied to John Huynh's comment.
but as Bible say, it is human duty to rule over Angels.,
and other hybrids,
for Good
https://www.gotquestions.org/judge-angels.html
http://www.biblestudy.org/question/will-angels-ultimately-be-judged-by-man.html
http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/6-3.htm
these sites get more and more Lutherian daily but still, some between the lines, we ca nuse well.
As at times they try to re-interpet literal words to much
Like maybe:
"There will come a day when even angels will have their lives reviewed to see if they have obeyed the laws of God, especially the Ten Commandments. "
We not so sure, jet, by gut feeling, that angels/spirits/demons/forces have to obey commandments made for humans, like respecting parents. what kind of parents them got eventually ? ... yes they got to respect the respects we respect perhaps,
but it is also effort to be sure, for human, that one is included with an humans
for sure.
Not so sure with all the beardless ones wearing tie's & pentagrams tho..
But then again:
https://www.gotquestions.org/angelic-humans.html
and other hybrids,
for Good
https://www.gotquestions.org/judge-angels.html
http://www.biblestudy.org/question/will-angels-ultimately-be-judged-by-man.html
http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/6-3.htm
these sites get more and more Lutherian daily but still, some between the lines, we ca nuse well.
As at times they try to re-interpet literal words to much
Like maybe:
"There will come a day when even angels will have their lives reviewed to see if they have obeyed the laws of God, especially the Ten Commandments. "
We not so sure, jet, by gut feeling, that angels/spirits/demons/forces have to obey commandments made for humans, like respecting parents. what kind of parents them got eventually ? ... yes they got to respect the respects we respect perhaps,
but it is also effort to be sure, for human, that one is included with an humans
for sure.
Not so sure with all the beardless ones wearing tie's & pentagrams tho..
But then again:
https://www.gotquestions.org/angelic-humans.html
https://www.gotquestions.org/judge-angels.html
8 April 2018 11:31
Margus Meigo replied to John Huynh's comment.
or unhook, if that is needed for Agenda
there is instructions what kind of activity needs to be sandboxed and unhooked, disrupted etc
old times they try cheap promoting unrelated sex and hype videos on YT related videos.
Like you looking video about šamanism and time travel and they promote you "Beyonce seen naked and drunk.. unbelivable what happen next"
kind of things, as they do, also registered human basic interests and tricks , with these "alternative news" websites, who had fake ad story's in botom, commies network, to see what tick one person.. and so they can hook away someone fro mproper road, with tailored sotry if needed and hook in the end up with some agents, fake people who get one at least away from origiginal plan if needed,..
and if they are accessable in bay aria or something, tinder like services will arrange dates to get in bed to know last secrets what is needed and trap the soul if someone is still to free
in city
Okey they not bother to go so far with most, but basic robot labeling of human inner urges, is elementary base they make for every person FOR LIFE .. in where ENTERNALY all bytes are added, from hacked forums to any other thing's they can get hands on to see real human connections and plans.. and new cells to inflatrate..
sepcially if some people/ group might have potential...
if they can turn them to red, they will do,
if they can not. then they use to eliminate this person with so great force that no one can in right mind to assume it is so, as it would look crazy,
and to get peopleto crazy is also part of plan if needed, as then crazyness will hurt the opposite cause as well.. liek if you against vegans get some insane fake veggan to shoot people
and millions will start to look other Vegans more insane way..
just a sample
there is instructions what kind of activity needs to be sandboxed and unhooked, disrupted etc
old times they try cheap promoting unrelated sex and hype videos on YT related videos.
Like you looking video about šamanism and time travel and they promote you "Beyonce seen naked and drunk.. unbelivable what happen next"
kind of things, as they do, also registered human basic interests and tricks , with these "alternative news" websites, who had fake ad story's in botom, commies network, to see what tick one person.. and so they can hook away someone fro mproper road, with tailored sotry if needed and hook in the end up with some agents, fake people who get one at least away from origiginal plan if needed,..
and if they are accessable in bay aria or something, tinder like services will arrange dates to get in bed to know last secrets what is needed and trap the soul if someone is still to free
in city
Okey they not bother to go so far with most, but basic robot labeling of human inner urges, is elementary base they make for every person FOR LIFE .. in where ENTERNALY all bytes are added, from hacked forums to any other thing's they can get hands on to see real human connections and plans.. and new cells to inflatrate..
sepcially if some people/ group might have potential...
if they can turn them to red, they will do,
if they can not. then they use to eliminate this person with so great force that no one can in right mind to assume it is so, as it would look crazy,
and to get peopleto crazy is also part of plan if needed, as then crazyness will hurt the opposite cause as well.. liek if you against vegans get some insane fake veggan to shoot people
and millions will start to look other Vegans more insane way..
just a sample
8 April 2018 11:30
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kui amfetamiini sõltlasele hunnnik amfi või alkosoltlasele pidevalt viina juurde anda, see ei tekita vaid süvendab sõltuvust, kuid
See juba uus meditsiini teema. Kuigi, seama analoogia ka sexi ja vale arusaamade osas kehtib, ravi on vaja selleks, et inimesed terveks saaks, ravikeskondasi, ravi arusaamasi ja ravile allumine austusega
See juba uus meditsiini teema. Kuigi, seama analoogia ka sexi ja vale arusaamade osas kehtib, ravi on vaja selleks, et inimesed terveks saaks, ravikeskondasi, ravi arusaamasi ja ravile allumine austusega
8 April 2018 11:16
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Arusaadav arusaadav Mr. Bibikov,
Saan siinkohal nõustuda ning teema kokku võtta.
ja veel lisada,et äärmusest äärmusesse, ehk ühest äärest teise äärde liikudes saab asjad mõõdetud kenasti. Nende ruumilisusest aru ja suundadest inimasside liikumises, ja mis vahepeale jääb midsa arvestama peab ja kui midagi ehitada, arvestada kes kuhu suunas ette, alla või taha jääb.
Siingi Fb, kontaktlisti millegipärast sõbralistiks kutsutakse.
Jätan selle vestluse praegu siiapaika,
Kuid ole vapper uut "threadi" (kuidas seda Eestikeeles öeldakse, Aru-foorumit?) alustama, Sinuga alati hea vestelda, sest oled jätkusuutlik
Saan siinkohal nõustuda ning teema kokku võtta.
ja veel lisada,et äärmusest äärmusesse, ehk ühest äärest teise äärde liikudes saab asjad mõõdetud kenasti. Nende ruumilisusest aru ja suundadest inimasside liikumises, ja mis vahepeale jääb midsa arvestama peab ja kui midagi ehitada, arvestada kes kuhu suunas ette, alla või taha jääb.
Siingi Fb, kontaktlisti millegipärast sõbralistiks kutsutakse.
Jätan selle vestluse praegu siiapaika,
Kuid ole vapper uut "threadi" (kuidas seda Eestikeeles öeldakse, Aru-foorumit?) alustama, Sinuga alati hea vestelda, sest oled jätkusuutlik
8 April 2018 11:14
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov lastele kellel on HEA kasvatus ja HEAD vanemad nendele võib anda hunniku komme, muidu on see laste vastane kuritöö ja vanemlikud õigused üldsgi, peaks ülevaatusele panema.
Vanemate hariduslikud nõuded ka, et kas nad närvisüsteemide ja järgneva elu toimimise mõjudest arusaavad, eriti laste kommide söömise kahjulikuse osas.
Aga kui lapsed nõauvad ja soovivad lisa kaikaid kellegi peksmiseks, seda ka jagad, või selles osas hakkad moraalitsema ?
Vanemate hariduslikud nõuded ka, et kas nad närvisüsteemide ja järgneva elu toimimise mõjudest arusaavad, eriti laste kommide söömise kahjulikuse osas.
Aga kui lapsed nõauvad ja soovivad lisa kaikaid kellegi peksmiseks, seda ka jagad, või selles osas hakkad moraalitsema ?
8 April 2018 11:08
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
sa vist unustad, et ma ise küll mitmenaiste grupikates elanud ja limoga rallinud, hoormajades käinud (kuigi vestlemasainult..aa see selleks) ja hoorameelsetega(liberaalidega) ja muidu veidratega elanud ka, just kaarusaamiseks..
seega nagu arusaamiste osas mul ikka on natuke kesmisest rohkem edumaad, mones vallas
sest nüüd seda kõike veel teisest meelenurgast saan vaadata, mida nne patupesa siseselt korraldada proovisin (ja see oli edukam tol hetkel, siis oli fimi küllaga :p)
seega nagu arusaamiste osas mul ikka on natuke kesmisest rohkem edumaad, mones vallas
sest nüüd seda kõike veel teisest meelenurgast saan vaadata, mida nne patupesa siseselt korraldada proovisin (ja see oli edukam tol hetkel, siis oli fimi küllaga :p)
8 April 2018 11:01
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kuid kül me väljamõtleme kui see nii loodud on, et peame
8 April 2018 10:58
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Üks asi millest ma arueisaa lõplikult, mitu teooriat küll on, et miks Sa aru ei saa.
et kas see on mäng su jaoks või sa lihtsalt, siiralt ei saa aru või see kohustus, mitte arusaada
et kas see on mäng su jaoks või sa lihtsalt, siiralt ei saa aru või see kohustus, mitte arusaada
8 April 2018 10:58
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kui segaduses lapsed nõuavad suhkrut ja kommi ja sovivad kaikaga naabrikoera peksta mis siis jagad neile komme ja kaikaid v?
8 April 2018 10:57
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
äärmiselt kultuuri ja enesehävituslik on arvata, et peaksime pakkuma seda mida väärastunud või väär olukorda sattunud inimesemass näiliselt väliselt soovib/nõuan hetke vajaduste rahuldmaiseks ....selleasemel, et TEGELIKUD vajadused rahuldada ja inimesed rahuldada reaalselt... nii et nad ei peaks olema iseenda ja oma nõudmiste orjad
reusrssi siis hoopis parmeateks asjadeks jäääks
reusrssi siis hoopis parmeateks asjadeks jäääks
8 April 2018 10:56
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ei pakkumised tekitavad nõudlust
8 April 2018 10:54
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Väga ebpraktiline Otsida sexi selleasemel, etleida naine kellega saad imtiimne olla kogu elu
8 April 2018 10:54
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov nu ja sellepärast ongi häving ümberringi, saad aru ?
Sest niisama sexudes, kui PÄRIS naisega sexid mitte nende nymfidega kes su spermat korjama tulevad inimtestide tarvis,
Et siis see hävitav on naise hingele
sellega peaks arvestama ,ükskõik palju sa teist mõnulema paned,
kui pole plaani jääda kokku pikemaks ajaks, mis mõte sisi sexil ?
Mingi kummirobotid oleme v?
Sest niisama sexudes, kui PÄRIS naisega sexid mitte nende nymfidega kes su spermat korjama tulevad inimtestide tarvis,
Et siis see hävitav on naise hingele
sellega peaks arvestama ,ükskõik palju sa teist mõnulema paned,
kui pole plaani jääda kokku pikemaks ajaks, mis mõte sisi sexil ?
Mingi kummirobotid oleme v?
8 April 2018 10:53
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov see niigi elementaarne, et plafrom on sätitud üles välises kihis, ku iet nagu oleks sobilik sexi funnina otsida, selles pole üldse küsimus
// ja mis FUN on kui iniemsed ennast purustavad tänu tinderile?
Iga niisama sexitud sex on suur häving pikaks ajaks, need kes päris iniemsed
lnagenud inglid ja mudu rööv viikingid ja tumedate võimude teenrid, neile see jah ,töö ja kohustus murda eri olekus naisi, neile kontserdipiletitega ligi hiilida ja siis murda nende hing.. et alla tapida ja vangis saaks hoida neid hingi..
ja et neid poäris meestest eemaldada.. samal ajal kui pärismeestele dinderis samasuguseid naispool isaadetakse,teravaid sydame urgitsejaid ja lipsu kaela toppiaiad
VÄGA rakse midagi sobilikumat siia leida, vastukaaluks, et kuidas olema peaks arusaama aluspind,
kui Rabbi Manis Friedman
// ja mis FUN on kui iniemsed ennast purustavad tänu tinderile?
Iga niisama sexitud sex on suur häving pikaks ajaks, need kes päris iniemsed
lnagenud inglid ja mudu rööv viikingid ja tumedate võimude teenrid, neile see jah ,töö ja kohustus murda eri olekus naisi, neile kontserdipiletitega ligi hiilida ja siis murda nende hing.. et alla tapida ja vangis saaks hoida neid hingi..
ja et neid poäris meestest eemaldada.. samal ajal kui pärismeestele dinderis samasuguseid naispool isaadetakse,teravaid sydame urgitsejaid ja lipsu kaela toppiaiad
VÄGA rakse midagi sobilikumat siia leida, vastukaaluks, et kuidas olema peaks arusaama aluspind,
kui Rabbi Manis Friedman
8 April 2018 10:42
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Asi on selles, et viisnurga TInder on see mida promotakse üle meedia, selleks, et inimesed sexi funniks teeksid ja elukaaslase otsimise mingiks suvaliseks shoppamiseks,
lihalaadaks, ja samas trikitaksid iniemsi sinna lihalaadale kus need tulnukad ise saavad machida ja ligipääseda kellele vaja.
Samas arusaami kuidas ja mida otsima peaks ,seda meelega see rikas firma ei tee, sest nad pole inimesed, vaid tegelevad inihingede kaubandusega mille pealiseks varjukihiks on pealiskaudne funn pandud.
viisnurk on viisnurk
ja kui nad oleks inimeeelsed, siis nad paneks rõhku selle toode le., millel oleks suur potensiaal inimoonda aidata, päris armastuspaare tekitada jne
lihalaadaks, ja samas trikitaksid iniemsi sinna lihalaadale kus need tulnukad ise saavad machida ja ligipääseda kellele vaja.
Samas arusaami kuidas ja mida otsima peaks ,seda meelega see rikas firma ei tee, sest nad pole inimesed, vaid tegelevad inihingede kaubandusega mille pealiseks varjukihiks on pealiskaudne funn pandud.
viisnurk on viisnurk
ja kui nad oleks inimeeelsed, siis nad paneks rõhku selle toode le., millel oleks suur potensiaal inimoonda aidata, päris armastuspaare tekitada jne
8 April 2018 10:40
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ootan (veel)
Videode sisu kuulasid? Nii lühikesi kui pikkasi sääl, peaks inglisekeele ja sisu lihtsuselt ka lihtrahvale täeisti arusaadavad olema,
Videode sisu kuulasid? Nii lühikesi kui pikkasi sääl, peaks inglisekeele ja sisu lihtsuselt ka lihtrahvale täeisti arusaadavad olema,
8 April 2018 10:35
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov me ei räägi toidust,
Ja ära kuluta aega niisama vastates plih plauh et ma pean mitukorda üle küsima, RÄÄGI ASJAST
Mul ploe aega raisata niisama chatimiseks ja pigistada vastuseid välja et su lausetel mõte ja sisu oleks.
Räägi täis jutt ja arusaam, siis ehk paistab välja ka miskit, et nagu oleksid saanud aru päriselt
Ja ära kuluta aega niisama vastates plih plauh et ma pean mitukorda üle küsima, RÄÄGI ASJAST
Mul ploe aega raisata niisama chatimiseks ja pigistada vastuseid välja et su lausetel mõte ja sisu oleks.
Räägi täis jutt ja arusaam, siis ehk paistab välja ka miskit, et nagu oleksid saanud aru päriselt
8 April 2018 10:34
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Või mis noodi Sa arusaid siis sellest seosest ja vajalikusest?
Rabbi poolel oled v tindery?
ja see pole lihtsalt "mingi juudi rabi" vaid reaalne, selle ajastu olulisemaid Rabisi
Rabbi poolel oled v tindery?
ja see pole lihtsalt "mingi juudi rabi" vaid reaalne, selle ajastu olulisemaid Rabisi
8 April 2018 10:33
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov ja millest Sa arueisaanud siis ikkagi?
8 April 2018 10:32
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
täis jutuga st
8 April 2018 10:32
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Ütle täis lausega otse sõnadega jutu sisu ja nimed kellest jutt ja mida soovitad
8 April 2018 10:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
A bit radical, a bit shooting our self in to foot, but still needed and far important, specially if ya take look guy's posts,
look in to meanings
look in to meanings
8 April 2018 10:31
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
kellega, millega, kes ja millest jutt?
8 April 2018 10:30
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Aguirre's live video.
No i not shoot them. i would took them to woods, and give them Red mushrooms, reprogram their mind and send them back to mission
8 April 2018 10:04
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Aguirre's live video.
Issue is not what they do in Texas, but issue is what Texas and USA is used against other Lands who shiver in fear afraid to make mistakes against USA, while Trump is in Bed with Communist Party and have to choose between Russia and USA .. 2 head eagle. proper sciso thing. // When Other cultures are gone, who got 2 times older resotrants as USA ... well. .then USA also looses out from wisdom and History
8 April 2018 10:03
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Aguirre's live video.
Person who have life plan, for what they use internet... then is useful, but there is special tools that will filter you out from other people views if you radical (or beardy :p )
Just use the facebook for what it is .. MINE information and use that for good : )
Just use the facebook for what it is .. MINE information and use that for good : )
8 April 2018 09:58
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Aguirre's live video.
i use it for magic and archive my future dreams, plans and giving opportunity to show, that this was, on that date. I hope it is mined and saved really deep, keep even sharing my FB inbox, archive.
8 April 2018 09:56
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Aguirre's live video.
:D Good one //
8 April 2018 09:53
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Aguirre's live video.
Heeey Beard! Wellcome!
8 April 2018 09:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
tinder-Lastele:
https://marguswaffa.wordpress.com/dating-advice-romance-intimacy-greatestlevel/
https://marguswaffa.wordpress.com/dating-advice-romance-intimacy-greatestlevel/
https://marguswaffa.wordpress.com/dating-advice-romance-intimacy-greatestlevel/
8 April 2018 09:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//mina üldse eip põe mis puudu ja eksimustski öeldud seni kuni hasuunaliselt ja arendavalt mõeldud, edasi arendamiseks, tõesuunalisemaks, märked lihtsalt mis teemas rääkima ja uurima peab ja emtsiooni varjundeid,
8 April 2018 09:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Hoolimata sellest, et 300 aastat tagasi käskis Peeter Suur vahelduseks Euroopasse akna raiumisele vanausulised nende pühakodadesse lukustada ja siis maha põletada, hõljub Peipsi-äärsetes vanausukirikutes tänagi viirukilõhn ja sugestiivne «gospodi pomiilui»."
8 April 2018 09:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// Vanausuliste vastane vimm siis tuleneb sellest, et nad ei soovi selle kahepealise kotka taktis poliitilist usuku hoida ja mafiosse õnnistada.
Ja veel muud nipetnäpet aga Rooma impeeriumine allumatus on siis arvatvasti üks põhilisi vajalikusi... ja jumalapoolt vast .. et liigne jäikus eriaegade nurkades.. mis enamuses säilitanud mis vaja osati kuid teisit iaegadele eri olukorras junnakusena silma jäänud..
Egas siis juuditki.. ellujämiseks kryptojoodid tehti ja saadi hakkama.. äratati ellu meie enda idaeoroopa kandis kõige sügavamaid maalähedasemaid ortodox juudi komuune kes nüüd üle kymnetes millionites lained NY is
ja mujal, mõõtu annavad tugevaimatele politiseerunud postisioonidele
Ja veel muud nipetnäpet aga Rooma impeeriumine allumatus on siis arvatvasti üks põhilisi vajalikusi... ja jumalapoolt vast .. et liigne jäikus eriaegade nurkades.. mis enamuses säilitanud mis vaja osati kuid teisit iaegadele eri olukorras junnakusena silma jäänud..
Egas siis juuditki.. ellujämiseks kryptojoodid tehti ja saadi hakkama.. äratati ellu meie enda idaeoroopa kandis kõige sügavamaid maalähedasemaid ortodox juudi komuune kes nüüd üle kymnetes millionites lained NY is
ja mujal, mõõtu annavad tugevaimatele politiseerunud postisioonidele
8 April 2018 09:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"«Õigeusklikud piserdavad püha vett,» selgitab Petshonkin. «Meie puhastame suitsuga. Kõik muutus patriarh Nikoni kirikureformiga 17. sajandil. Nikon tegi meie usu ümber ja nimetas õigeusuks. Peeter I murdis meie kombed, põletas raamatud. Inimesed suleti kirikuisse, õled laoti ümber ja süüdati põlema. Aga meie usk on ju vanem - sellest ajast, kui Venemaal Kristus omaks võeti.»
Kas usk saab olla õige või vale?
Eestis on 11 vanausuliste kogudust, enamik neist Peipsi ääres. «Vanausk ei hääbu,» kinnitab Varunin. "
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" Vanausuliste jumalateenistus kestab tavaliselt paar tundi, suurtel pühadel tunde. «Lihavõttepühade ja jõulude ajal peame öiseid jumalateenistusi,» pajatab Petshonkin. «Aga nüüd � Anname natuke järele. Naisterahvad, vanad inimesed - nad ei jõua nii kaua püsti seista.»
Vanasti vägagi rangeid ettekirjutusi järginud staroveeretsid annavad veidi järele mujalgi. «Kui järgiksime täpselt kõike vana, siis ei tohiks me praegu teiegagi vestelda,» ütleb Varunin.
Mööndusi ei tehta selles, et naised tohivad kirikusse minna vaid mustade pearättide ja kleitidega. Ei kübaraid ega pikki pükse. Ja kui tuleb maagiline gospodi-pomiilui-koht, siis löövad vanausulised 40 korda risti ette ja kummardavad sama palju kordi. Üks eeslauljatest peab sõrmenukkidel arvet ja teeb siis 40ndal korral kõvemat häält. "
// Nu 40 korda see päevast vähe aega võtab kuid vast väiek hind hingekaotuse kartuses
Ja eks oleneb ka kas elusavim sees , et näed et pühakoht elluärkab või heledab
Kas usk saab olla õige või vale?
Eestis on 11 vanausuliste kogudust, enamik neist Peipsi ääres. «Vanausk ei hääbu,» kinnitab Varunin. "
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" Vanausuliste jumalateenistus kestab tavaliselt paar tundi, suurtel pühadel tunde. «Lihavõttepühade ja jõulude ajal peame öiseid jumalateenistusi,» pajatab Petshonkin. «Aga nüüd � Anname natuke järele. Naisterahvad, vanad inimesed - nad ei jõua nii kaua püsti seista.»
Vanasti vägagi rangeid ettekirjutusi järginud staroveeretsid annavad veidi järele mujalgi. «Kui järgiksime täpselt kõike vana, siis ei tohiks me praegu teiegagi vestelda,» ütleb Varunin.
Mööndusi ei tehta selles, et naised tohivad kirikusse minna vaid mustade pearättide ja kleitidega. Ei kübaraid ega pikki pükse. Ja kui tuleb maagiline gospodi-pomiilui-koht, siis löövad vanausulised 40 korda risti ette ja kummardavad sama palju kordi. Üks eeslauljatest peab sõrmenukkidel arvet ja teeb siis 40ndal korral kõvemat häält. "
// Nu 40 korda see päevast vähe aega võtab kuid vast väiek hind hingekaotuse kartuses
Ja eks oleneb ka kas elusavim sees , et näed et pühakoht elluärkab või heledab
8 April 2018 09:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
https://tartu.postimees.ee/1923347/peipsi-vanausulised-ei-anna-uuele-ajale-alla
«Vanasti ei tulnud papp isegi matma, kui kadunukesel polnud habet,» räägib sileda lõuaga Pafnuti Petshonkin. «Nüüd ei ole habe kohustuslik, aga on muidugi soovitatav.»
// Selle vea peab parandama...
Kallaste vanausuliste kogukonna esimees Pavel Varunin ütleb, et temal ilus tihe habe ei kasva ja raseerimata lõuaga näeks ta välja nagu halb inimene.
Halb inimene - nehoroshi tshelovek - on vanausuliste suurim vaenlane. Just halb inimene varastas Kallaste kirikust 30 hindamatut ikooni, on juba kolm korda sisse murdnud Varnja pühakotta ja kaks korda rüvetanud Kolkja kirikut.
Ka Mustvee, Kükita ja Tartu kirikutes �
Kallaste koguduse vanim ja lugupeetuim liige, 79-aastane Nazari Lobin on sellisest pühaduseteotusest heitunud. Põlatud Peetri ajal oli siiski ka midagi head, näiteks tava põletada varastele tulise rauaga otsaette häbimärk vor - varas.
«Vanasti ei tulnud papp isegi matma, kui kadunukesel polnud habet,» räägib sileda lõuaga Pafnuti Petshonkin. «Nüüd ei ole habe kohustuslik, aga on muidugi soovitatav.»
// Selle vea peab parandama...
Kallaste vanausuliste kogukonna esimees Pavel Varunin ütleb, et temal ilus tihe habe ei kasva ja raseerimata lõuaga näeks ta välja nagu halb inimene.
Halb inimene - nehoroshi tshelovek - on vanausuliste suurim vaenlane. Just halb inimene varastas Kallaste kirikust 30 hindamatut ikooni, on juba kolm korda sisse murdnud Varnja pühakotta ja kaks korda rüvetanud Kolkja kirikut.
Ka Mustvee, Kükita ja Tartu kirikutes �
Kallaste koguduse vanim ja lugupeetuim liige, 79-aastane Nazari Lobin on sellisest pühaduseteotusest heitunud. Põlatud Peetri ajal oli siiski ka midagi head, näiteks tava põletada varastele tulise rauaga otsaette häbimärk vor - varas.
https://tartu.postimees.ee/1923347/peipsi-vanausulised-ei-anna-uuele-ajale-alla
8 April 2018 09:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Siin inimestele ka allalaadimiseks hea link:
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=4Z9QSnX98iM
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=4Z9QSnX98iM
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=4Z9QSnX98iM
8 April 2018 09:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et "Muidugi, saan läbi ka huntide ja muude heade iniemstega kes lihal hea maitsta lasevad, kuid vahe on selles, et need olendid ja inimesed, loomad ja kehastused, teavad mida nad söövad, hindavad ja austavad mida nad söövad ja söövad nii kuidas neile siin mateerias elamiseks tarvis /arvavad olevat "
ja siis nodega saab rääkida, ilma vasturünneta, et näe.. siin seda ja teist asja proovi vaata kuidas on... ja nad proovivad ja katsetavad, siiralt koostööd luues, proovides...
aga need kes nagu zombid ahambad irevil närvi lähevad..
ja siis nodega saab rääkida, ilma vasturünneta, et näe.. siin seda ja teist asja proovi vaata kuidas on... ja nad proovivad ja katsetavad, siiralt koostööd luues, proovides...
aga need kes nagu zombid ahambad irevil närvi lähevad..
8 April 2018 09:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Lihasööjate teistele dimensioonidele praeguses ajas ja ajas veel
8 April 2018 09:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lihtne lahendus: lubasi mitte väljastada
Ja lubade väljastajatele ninasse sõita
ja nad avalikus, teha koos koduaadressiga,
et kes neid taptalgusi aitab korraldada
Ja lubade väljastajatele ninasse sõita
ja nad avalikus, teha koos koduaadressiga,
et kes neid taptalgusi aitab korraldada
8 April 2018 09:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Saaremaalt:
Jahituristide tapatöö
http://m.delfi.ee/eesti/article.php?id=75990149
Jahituristide tapatöö
http://m.delfi.ee/eesti/article.php?id=75990149
http://m.delfi.ee/eesti/article.php?id=75990149
8 April 2018 08:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Uudiseid: Massiivne linnutapp
http://m.delfi.ee/eesti/article.php?id=76040305
http://m.delfi.ee/eesti/article.php?id=76040305
http://m.delfi.ee/eesti/article.php?id=76040305
8 April 2018 08:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Suur tänu Timo Lige muusika eest! Su misioon on õilis!
8 April 2018 08:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Alcoholi biz
kas oma jope v
https://www.facebook.com/sergo.kont/posts/2125152207514933
kas oma jope v
https://www.facebook.com/sergo.kont/posts/2125152207514933
8 April 2018 08:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Song about hardship of lovebringer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq-bkip5jPw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq-bkip5jPw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq-bkip5jPw
8 April 2018 08:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
Ega talv polegi alati kõige kurjem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VfvWChVOFo
Ega talv polegi alati kõige kurjem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VfvWChVOFo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VfvWChVOFo
8 April 2018 08:26
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Taavi Timm nu aga kas see tema pekkis elu, mis paneb ta õlut jooma, aitab paremaks ?
Kui sellest mõlemale kasu on,siis on vast plaanin tolku
Kui sellest mõlemale kasu on,siis on vast plaanin tolku
8 April 2018 08:20
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Tahtsid Tinderist rääkida?
8 April 2018 08:14
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Räägi mulle ka sellest Millegist, siis kui sellest ka veel arusaan siis peaks kõik valmis olema
8 April 2018 08:14
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Kali veel parem muide
8 April 2018 08:13
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Lihtsalt sellepärast, et Sa Taavi, ma teen niii, et ma seda kommentaari ei näinud :D
8 April 2018 08:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Soldiers Of Odin Estonia
Meie liik, olevat ka olnud see kes robotlikuma liigi Atlanntisse olevat põhja lasknud kuna need uusi liike vorpima hakkasid mustamaagiaga tegeledes, tööorjasi ja milleks veel..
kuid see muidugi kauduväike folgilugu, kes neid lugusi teab?7 April 2018 19:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Soldiers Of Odin Estonia
Mõtlesin selle sloogani peale, et isamaalisus ei ole rassism,
nu kuna minu silmis, Rassism kui selline on positiivne nähtus mis seisneb rasside armastuses läbi nende originaalsuse säilitamise
koos väärtustega mis omased erinevatele rassidele ja rassiparanduses kus vajadusel erineva rassi puudujääke saab sobilikke valida teistest kultuuridest või rassikogukonnale omastest oskustest (olgu see siis ketsipaelte parem punumise moodus või teatud viisakusnormid, ehitus ) ... siis isamaalisus, meie maa puhul, peaks ikkagi olema ka rassism,
ehk siis Eesti rasside arendamine ja hoidmine, parandamine. Praegu tundub, et ei ole päris kaardistatutki õigesti erinevaid Eesti sorte,
mida vaja ehituseks, mida vaja rahvaluuleks või luureks, võitluseks või ilumeelte hoidmiseks, et hing ja kultuur kõik koos saaks väärtuslikuks.
Seega isamaalisusele mõeldes.. me ikka mõtleme ju kindalt sorti valget rassi ja meie kodumaa kommetega inimestele eelkõige
Kuigi kommunismide uute seduste järgi, sellist asja nagu rassi pole olemas ja seda sõnagi ei tohi kasutada, siis ehk mõtlema peaksime sõnakasutuses "Eesti maalased" kuid eestis olevad külalised ja siia heas või halvas tulnud inimesed, olgugi, paberipõhjal legaalselt Eestlane, siis seda ilmselget ta ju ei saa olla kui tal pole kodumaa tunnetust, kogukonna tunnetust mis läheb ikka palju kaugemale kui see "ev 100" mõttepiir.
Vanad habemikud teadsid rääkida, et Sumeri ajani tuleks vähemalt mõelda, et üldse hakata mõtlema asjalikult Eestlaste osas7 April 2018 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on Isamaalisus ei ole rassism's video.
Üllatavalt hea
7 April 2018 19:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyPCDSuAjKc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyPCDSuAjKc
7 April 2018 19:33
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Taavi Timm milles kalad süüdi kui me süsteemipeale tigedad :D
7 April 2018 19:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja veel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdhnP7MvvWo&t=7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdhnP7MvvWo&t=7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdhnP7MvvWo&t=7s
7 April 2018 19:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
tinder ikka on ka viisnurga product praeguseks
kuid yeah, date:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jwvo9LV4mc
kuid yeah, date:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jwvo9LV4mc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jwvo9LV4mc
7 April 2018 19:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
NU ma ei saa aru, et mis taktika see, on saadetakse samasi pickup lauseid massiliselt eri naistele ?
Ma olen millegist vist valesti aru saanud,
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AINUKE positiivne asi sellel lehel, mis on märkimisväärt, on FB pildide mugav kiire loogiline import
Tehniliselt, see ainuke osa mida ei oskaks paremaks teha, see osa on ideaalne algusest lopuni.
Kuid palju muud..
Ma olen millegist vist valesti aru saanud,
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AINUKE positiivne asi sellel lehel, mis on märkimisväärt, on FB pildide mugav kiire loogiline import
Tehniliselt, see ainuke osa mida ei oskaks paremaks teha, see osa on ideaalne algusest lopuni.
Kuid palju muud..
7 April 2018 19:25
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Taavi Timm aga kes neil tuleb kes beebi tehastes kasvatatakse toiduks nagu kariloomi või projektide tarvis, kus ernevaid aineid ja tehnoloogiaid vaja testida maalustes laborites, et siis kui ollakse piisavas tasemes, et maapeale avaliku teaduseni vihjetega miskid tulemused tuua.. .. et kuidas jah.. mis haldjad neil tulevad..
7 April 2018 19:11
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Burak's post.
Group: Soldiers Of Odin Estonia
Nu oleneb, kas Su isamaa on Ühest Rassist või mitmest7 April 2018 19:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Anime Shaman. Cyber, Nature, Japan Manga, Matrix, Messianic
// still have not managed to get connection..
poor man in poor country... even if they do call it technologically advanced then situations are not provided to all..7 April 2018 18:51
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
ei tea kas enam kohustuslik on sest suts lillaks see disain läinud .. kudi enam kui kohsutuslik vaatamine peaks olema kohustuslik asjadest arusaamine ja analüüsimise võime
7 April 2018 18:49
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Taavi Timm neid plaane on palju ja järjepidavaid, kuid kahe sama detiali taga asjad nagu ikka.
Ja neid asj uei ole viiskas ja soobilik ka ühsikonnast niisama nõuda, kig tegelikult oleks ,kui arusaadaks mis sest tuleb ja tulla saab
Ja neid asj uei ole viiskas ja soobilik ka ühsikonnast niisama nõuda, kig tegelikult oleks ,kui arusaadaks mis sest tuleb ja tulla saab
7 April 2018 18:45
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
ja veel hulk naisi kes aitavad elus hoida eluvastaseid arnguid.. suht kur olukord
7 April 2018 18:43
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
samal ajal kui igast sõltlased ja naisepeksjad ja naistevastased ja muidu mitte huvitatud naise hingeelust olendid kes kasutavad neda paljudnamsieks naist aint või eluenrrgia samaiseks.. neil naine ja armukesi ka pealekauba veel
7 April 2018 18:43
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
eriti kuna teada ,et kuidas ta kraavist parmuna korjati üles ja siis PANDI selle keskus ajalehe juhiks
kuid see juba maailune tekst.. Soome tegelik omanik, suur ärimees, kes mul külas käis, see ise rääkis lugusi, KesKus enne tema oma oli
tal veel üks tallinna olulisemaid restosi ja palju muud head.. kunagi kui asjapeale saan peaks rääkima temaga, ta ka vast oleks selline kes reaalselt aitaks kui hea idee, kuid seni kuni ma ei leia kirja inimest kes mu visoonid inimkeelde panna saab pole suur tllootust,
alustuseks vaja mul ka maagia ja võlukunsti tarves naisterhvast kellega koos need algusseemned kasvama panna, ilma igasugse sotsiaalse ja majnadusliku taustata ie ole võimali ilma naiseta üldse midagi suurt teha selliselt, et selle omadiõigus su oma rhav kätte hiljem jääks ... nu minu eluteel mitte, ma ple näinud neid võimalusi, ilma naiseta... ja siis seega see mailm tark ja teadnud mida hoida mu teelt..
kuid see juba maailune tekst.. Soome tegelik omanik, suur ärimees, kes mul külas käis, see ise rääkis lugusi, KesKus enne tema oma oli
tal veel üks tallinna olulisemaid restosi ja palju muud head.. kunagi kui asjapeale saan peaks rääkima temaga, ta ka vast oleks selline kes reaalselt aitaks kui hea idee, kuid seni kuni ma ei leia kirja inimest kes mu visoonid inimkeelde panna saab pole suur tllootust,
alustuseks vaja mul ka maagia ja võlukunsti tarves naisterhvast kellega koos need algusseemned kasvama panna, ilma igasugse sotsiaalse ja majnadusliku taustata ie ole võimali ilma naiseta üldse midagi suurt teha selliselt, et selle omadiõigus su oma rhav kätte hiljem jääks ... nu minu eluteel mitte, ma ple näinud neid võimalusi, ilma naiseta... ja siis seega see mailm tark ja teadnud mida hoida mu teelt..
7 April 2018 18:42
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
intenret on olemas, arusamatu miks SELLIST asja üle õhulainete raadios lastakse, väga müstiline
7 April 2018 18:39
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
õnneks ainukt kogematta hava juhtun kuulama neid.. kuid eks see nagu viin,, ja suits.. siis kui pidevalt sees ei saa aru.. ma aga jutun kuulama üle aasta seda häält ja siis selliselt hakkab sees keerama, et väga paha hakkab
7 April 2018 18:36
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
seda jukuraadiot oled kuulanud.. päris kohutav asi, "Mõtlevate inimeste raadiost...
et ... nagu kas neid lastakse eetrisse selle jubeda liberaalsuse enesepaljastuseks.. ja nad usuvad et teevad sääl midaig muud.. või ongi kukuraadio heas usus.. et see midagi mida nad tegema peaksid...
kuula neid audioud ntex:
http://kuku.postimees.ee/index.php?action=subject&id_broadcast=137&id_subject=2064
et ... nagu kas neid lastakse eetrisse selle jubeda liberaalsuse enesepaljastuseks.. ja nad usuvad et teevad sääl midaig muud.. või ongi kukuraadio heas usus.. et see midagi mida nad tegema peaksid...
kuula neid audioud ntex:
http://kuku.postimees.ee/index.php?action=subject&id_broadcast=137&id_subject=2064
http://kuku.postimees.ee/index.php?action=subject&id_broadcast=137&id_subject=2064
7 April 2018 18:35
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Taavi Timm šamanistlike, rahalikke, h2x0rlike, poliitilisi, seduslike, sexiliku, allmaailmaliku, relgiooni ja ... radikaalilikku
7 April 2018 18:23
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Väärainete mass kasutus, väärtoodete mass kasutus, väär meele-lahutuse mass kasutus, väär mõtlmeised ja väär keelekasutused (kus öeldakse asju mis ei sobi, pahasi asju või ebaõigeid asju meelega ebaheategemiseks), väär kasutus mehe ja naise vahel ja väär kasvatus ja väär toitumine ning väär elumisioonide parandus oleks elementaarne, Millele suht lihtne leida üldiselt paremiad, kriitilisi vajalikuseid
7 April 2018 18:18
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
generic question, listi ettelugemine oleks liialt pikk, teeks seda, kui paar päeva aega oleks ja sellest siin praegu lkasu oleks.
Saan vastata prakilisemalt, ütle mis on mure ja mis on murekoht ja siis ütlen kuidas selleks mu loodud lahendused saavad abiks olla või kuidas see koheselt parandada enne seda käepäraste või rahaliste vahenditega
Saan vastata prakilisemalt, ütle mis on mure ja mis on murekoht ja siis ütlen kuidas selleks mu loodud lahendused saavad abiks olla või kuidas see koheselt parandada enne seda käepäraste või rahaliste vahenditega
7 April 2018 18:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ehk siis:
// kuid kui ülejäänud torkimist kuskil veel näha on siis võtame juba google ette ja muud asukohad tõsisemalt
// ja siis blokeerid veel vastamise võimaluse ka ära, et endale viimane sõna jäeks... eriti täiskasvanulik
// Su ainuke lohutus on, et me võrk on praegu veel mitte ametlikus koostöös ja mul palju muud tegevust, kuid igasugune ärritus, see tõstab Su aktsiaid koheselt, et kellega vaja tegeleda.
Selline OCD mul lihtsalt, pole midagi parata,
// kuid kui ülejäänud torkimist kuskil veel näha on siis võtame juba google ette ja muud asukohad tõsisemalt
// ja siis blokeerid veel vastamise võimaluse ka ära, et endale viimane sõna jäeks... eriti täiskasvanulik
// Su ainuke lohutus on, et me võrk on praegu veel mitte ametlikus koostöös ja mul palju muud tegevust, kuid igasugune ärritus, see tõstab Su aktsiaid koheselt, et kellega vaja tegeleda.
Selline OCD mul lihtsalt, pole midagi parata,
7 April 2018 18:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sinu viimase sõnumi pealeu avalikku postkasti:
http://bit.ly/Indrek_salumae_alkohol
http://bit.ly/Indrek_salumae_alkohol
http://bit.ly/Indrek_salumae_alkohol
7 April 2018 18:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Indrek Salumäe NU näed, ja Sa raiskasitki mu aega,
Paneme Su listi siis ! Su vastus võrdus allkirjastatud dokumendiga olemaks nõus sellega mis saab. Ega paragrahvid sinu pahategusi netist enam eemalda, rikkamatki poisid üritanud:D
Kui Sa aru ei saa mis rõvedust Sa alkoimpeeriumi (kultuurihävitusimpeeriumi) kaitsmisega korraldad valides valed pooled ehk siis midagi muud kui kaine Eestimeelsus, ...
ja siis veel nõuad ilma igasuguse aluseta, et ma oma avaliku ja AVATUD profiili Sinu suva järgi ümberkorraldama hakkaks,
SU ENDA POOLT postitatud sõnakesi eemaldama.. nu anna olla.
Sul paragrahvidest vist ikka üsna naiivne arusaam
See siin on minu isiklik märkmik muideks, kus ma salvestan erinevate olukordade tarvis robotitele mittearusaadavalt reaalsustega seotud mõtte ja tunde suundasi mida kannavad erinevad hinged.
Keegi ei käskinud Sul siia tulla Alkoholi kaitsma, samahästi oleksid võinud endale jalga lasta mitme muu hullumeelsuse kaitsmisega nagu nii mõnigi teinud on. Kellega veel kunagi tegeletakse, sügavamalt.
Ole mureta, küll keegi võõras kuskil, siin seda märkab ja Su meie soovipeale internetti salvestab, sest tõepoolest, see kommentaar on seda väärt, et seda salvestada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgc93C178lc
Paneme Su listi siis ! Su vastus võrdus allkirjastatud dokumendiga olemaks nõus sellega mis saab. Ega paragrahvid sinu pahategusi netist enam eemalda, rikkamatki poisid üritanud:D
Kui Sa aru ei saa mis rõvedust Sa alkoimpeeriumi (kultuurihävitusimpeeriumi) kaitsmisega korraldad valides valed pooled ehk siis midagi muud kui kaine Eestimeelsus, ...
ja siis veel nõuad ilma igasuguse aluseta, et ma oma avaliku ja AVATUD profiili Sinu suva järgi ümberkorraldama hakkaks,
SU ENDA POOLT postitatud sõnakesi eemaldama.. nu anna olla.
Sul paragrahvidest vist ikka üsna naiivne arusaam
See siin on minu isiklik märkmik muideks, kus ma salvestan erinevate olukordade tarvis robotitele mittearusaadavalt reaalsustega seotud mõtte ja tunde suundasi mida kannavad erinevad hinged.
Keegi ei käskinud Sul siia tulla Alkoholi kaitsma, samahästi oleksid võinud endale jalga lasta mitme muu hullumeelsuse kaitsmisega nagu nii mõnigi teinud on. Kellega veel kunagi tegeletakse, sügavamalt.
Ole mureta, küll keegi võõras kuskil, siin seda märkab ja Su meie soovipeale internetti salvestab, sest tõepoolest, see kommentaar on seda väärt, et seda salvestada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgc93C178lc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgc93C178lc
7 April 2018 17:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ka poliitiliselt:
"Et ei juhtuks sellist apsu
tööl ei tohi võtta napsu.
Õppida sul olgu hool
kus on vasak, parem pool. "
"Et ei juhtuks sellist apsu
tööl ei tohi võtta napsu.
Õppida sul olgu hool
kus on vasak, parem pool. "
7 April 2018 17:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Indrek Salumäe elu läheb edasi ka siis kui me eemaldame Riigiseest väärmeelsused.
Palun ära kuluta mu aega nii kasutute nõudmistega, kui korra veel nõuad siis pean lisa aega võtma, et isiklikult su nimega terve internet üle külvata selle kometaari ja sisuga.
Sedasi ma reageerin nede osas kes üle piiri lähevad.
Siis head õnne suhtlemaks aasia, vene ja ameerika suvaliste firmadega, et kuskilt portaalidest ja googlest oma nime eemaldada
Palun ära kuluta mu aega nii kasutute nõudmistega, kui korra veel nõuad siis pean lisa aega võtma, et isiklikult su nimega terve internet üle külvata selle kometaari ja sisuga.
Sedasi ma reageerin nede osas kes üle piiri lähevad.
Siis head õnne suhtlemaks aasia, vene ja ameerika suvaliste firmadega, et kuskilt portaalidest ja googlest oma nime eemaldada
7 April 2018 17:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Indrek Salumäe Minu õigus on loomulikult kõike nii siin kinnises keskonnas jagada, kui ka kohtades millest rääkisin.
Sina saad siin ainult kinnitada keeleliselt, avalikult, et eksisid, ja et Sa kuidagi ei toeta Riigi kassa läbi kurikaelte taskute täitmist mürgitades oma enda raha ja likvideerides kultuuri.
Siis teame, et sind päris punasesse listi pole vaja panna, vaid lihtsalt, tavainimene kes meelsusega kogematta kaasa läinud siiras segaduses.
See on parim mida teha saad ja parim mida nõuda saad
// kuigi see on tore ja hea, et küsisid, seegi hea
Sina saad siin ainult kinnitada keeleliselt, avalikult, et eksisid, ja et Sa kuidagi ei toeta Riigi kassa läbi kurikaelte taskute täitmist mürgitades oma enda raha ja likvideerides kultuuri.
Siis teame, et sind päris punasesse listi pole vaja panna, vaid lihtsalt, tavainimene kes meelsusega kogematta kaasa läinud siiras segaduses.
See on parim mida teha saad ja parim mida nõuda saad
// kuigi see on tore ja hea, et küsisid, seegi hea
7 April 2018 17:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kadi Kadak Arved kantakse ühest taskust teise üle sümboolselt, üür on 38 eurot, kogu üür 75 koos kogu kommunaalide ja elektriga olenemata resursi kausutamisest.
See makstakse vaesematele 100% ja see täitsa okey,
Ülemistel korrustel olevad inimesed nemad kes suutlikumad, maksavad ise kuid sellest rahast mis neile niisama antakse, selles mõttes ka neil, on üür tasuta.
Mõni saab näiteks puuete toetust, alla 40 aastane mees, puue on, et ta sööb hästi palju ja joob seega veresuhkrutõttu ta ülekaaluline, saab 400 eurot, teine on täistööjõus alla 30a tugeva kehaehitusega mees, tehnika oskustega, kes saab 250 (+100% üüri ja kommunaalide toetus) sest tema töövõimetus seisneb sellest, et läheb närvi. (kui ülevaatusel käib)
Ja siis nüüd nad mitmed siin, erinevas olukorras, käivad, kes joomas puntis, kes üksi, aga selge on see,et ILMA kahtluseta ENAMSU rahast läheb alkoholile ja suitsule,
Ja see pidi samamoodi mujal ka olema.
Siin majas kus me, ma päris palju rooja käsitsi välja pesema pidin, polnud keegi siin käinud neid juhendamas pesemise vms osas,
Kuigi suures plaanis, inimesed on sõbralikud, va. mõned pundid kes jõlguvad vahest .. ja olukord on tänuväärne, et muidu oleksin pidanud õues magama, nagu poolenisti viimased kaks aaastat... siis paneb mul südame verd tilkuma, nähes mis summad välismaa viinaärile läheb siit (suur osa eest iviinast ameerika piiritusega olevat tehtud) ja suitsuärile mis ilma kahtluseta 100% välismaa värk, Leek viimane suitsufirma müüdi ka ju maha. See selleks.
See ju lihtne teha, peale sutsu planeerimist, et kõik kes alkoholisõltlased, nemad ei saa sularaha niisama, saavad kaardi millega saab osta kõike peale kahjuliku kaupade sest neil pole mõistust endal, et raha tarviliku asja jaoks tarvitada.
Samas mul ema 5 last üles toond, kõik muud paremini kui ma, ja tema vaevu ajab kübemeid kokku, oma katkiste kontide jms arvelt.
Samas mehed, saavad niisama stabiilselt viinaraha, ma ei saa sellest loogikast aru, mis saab vaesele inimesele veel kahjulikum olla kui talle suitsu ja vina pidevalt anda ?
See makstakse vaesematele 100% ja see täitsa okey,
Ülemistel korrustel olevad inimesed nemad kes suutlikumad, maksavad ise kuid sellest rahast mis neile niisama antakse, selles mõttes ka neil, on üür tasuta.
Mõni saab näiteks puuete toetust, alla 40 aastane mees, puue on, et ta sööb hästi palju ja joob seega veresuhkrutõttu ta ülekaaluline, saab 400 eurot, teine on täistööjõus alla 30a tugeva kehaehitusega mees, tehnika oskustega, kes saab 250 (+100% üüri ja kommunaalide toetus) sest tema töövõimetus seisneb sellest, et läheb närvi. (kui ülevaatusel käib)
Ja siis nüüd nad mitmed siin, erinevas olukorras, käivad, kes joomas puntis, kes üksi, aga selge on see,et ILMA kahtluseta ENAMSU rahast läheb alkoholile ja suitsule,
Ja see pidi samamoodi mujal ka olema.
Siin majas kus me, ma päris palju rooja käsitsi välja pesema pidin, polnud keegi siin käinud neid juhendamas pesemise vms osas,
Kuigi suures plaanis, inimesed on sõbralikud, va. mõned pundid kes jõlguvad vahest .. ja olukord on tänuväärne, et muidu oleksin pidanud õues magama, nagu poolenisti viimased kaks aaastat... siis paneb mul südame verd tilkuma, nähes mis summad välismaa viinaärile läheb siit (suur osa eest iviinast ameerika piiritusega olevat tehtud) ja suitsuärile mis ilma kahtluseta 100% välismaa värk, Leek viimane suitsufirma müüdi ka ju maha. See selleks.
See ju lihtne teha, peale sutsu planeerimist, et kõik kes alkoholisõltlased, nemad ei saa sularaha niisama, saavad kaardi millega saab osta kõike peale kahjuliku kaupade sest neil pole mõistust endal, et raha tarviliku asja jaoks tarvitada.
Samas mul ema 5 last üles toond, kõik muud paremini kui ma, ja tema vaevu ajab kübemeid kokku, oma katkiste kontide jms arvelt.
Samas mehed, saavad niisama stabiilselt viinaraha, ma ei saa sellest loogikast aru, mis saab vaesele inimesele veel kahjulikum olla kui talle suitsu ja vina pidevalt anda ?
7 April 2018 17:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mu ärritunud vastuseid:
Margus Meigo Selle looga mis kirjutasid, on pikk ja kena kuid kahjuks see sobib alkoholi PR'iks.
Eestlasena me ei tohi olla nii lambad, et ei saa aru mis on Eesti poolt ja Vastu.
See, et me alkoholi osas ühendame ennast, see on juba iseenesest rahva lõpliku hävituse märk, viimane laiba korin võiks õelda.
Mis baltiketi hõng? Kus need koossõitjad miljardi tehase katkestamisel on ? Pole kuulda.
IGA pudel mis Eesti pinnal ostetud, ONGI juba miinus ja Eesti vastane kui suures õiges plaanis vaadata.
Siin ei saa nii narrilt lipsumehelikult mõeld,a et EESTI kuidagi kannataks, kui iniemsed ostavad bensiini lätist ja viina mida iganes sealt mõned aastad, see täeisti Jabur raskesti mõõdetavates kõrgustes, kui asume oma riigi väärtusi ja stabiilsust selliste VÄLISTE sissetoodud asjade narisse nagu kes kust paar paaki ostab ja mitme millini eest keegi viina välismaalt ostab, pealegi armasta naabrit,
Mis selles halba on, et Läti saab raha ? Mis sellest saab kahjulikku Eestile olla?
See tugevndab sidemeid kahe riigi vahel, kui lätikad meie läbi teenivad, ja see täesiti normaalne.
Sellised JUBEDAD näited, et me peame hoidma alkoholi läbi soome turiste endal
ja oma rahvale mürki alla kallama kärist,et siis saaks nende pealt aktsiisi, see nii lapsik ja jube, kahjulik,
marru ajav propakanda et paneb tahtma krive kätte haarata ja kuskil mingi asutus puruks peksta (mitte küll Sinu vastu Indrek, kuid kes selle PR taga onm mida kaitsed)
seegi poleks piisavalt radikaalne niisuuremeelsuse hullumeelsuse vastu mida inimesed lasevavd oma ajudega teha, kus kõige elementaarsemad eluarusaamad on peapeale pööratud
Manage
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Niipalju üle ääre ajavaid jubedaid arusaame oli üheksoos, mis otseselt PÄRIS EESTI vastased, et raske reageerida kohe , nukraks teeb
Lätist ostetkase.. jube asi küll. .mis need lätlased on mingi inimsööjatest tulnukad ja terroristid kes selle raha siis selleks teevad, koguvad, et meile sellega pärast kallale tulla v?
MIs haige arusaamasaab olla eesimaainimeste päe pandud, selles osas pahasti tunda.
EGA siis ei saa olla inimese väärtus meie maal selelga seotud, et ta siin bensiini ja viina ostab, vaid loeb ikka mida ta kodanikuna siin teeb.,
Kelle vianuke väärtus on see, et ta makse kogub viina ja bensiiniga siis tema võiks osta paagi täis ja siit minema sõit,a võimalikult kaugele,
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Nii naeruväärseks me riiki teha ei tasu, et me viina ja kytyuse aksiisist elame,
ja enamus viin on ka ameerika oma ja välismaa oma mis meile sisse tuuakse ja KÕIK kütus on välismaa oma, seeega teenid ikkagi samasi peremehi ka siis kui teist külast ostad, raha läheb ikkasamade lipsude taskussse,
kuid eelkõige, tuleb arusaada,
ilma absoluuutse igasuguse vaidluseta,
ET IGA PUDEL ALKOHOL IMIS OSTAD EESTI PINNAL, EESTIS TEENITUD RAHA EEST ON EESTIVASTANE KURITEGU,
Saaks selle raha anda pesnionärile ostmaks talle jalutus käru,
või vaeslastele ostmaks neile tarvilise eraõpetaja kes neiel aru pähe paneb
või koguda oma naise või laste tarvis, et neid kuskile saata, neile midagi osta,
või saata maameestele, et nad saaksid uue saha osta, et talvel lund lahti lükata,
või kellegi maa mammi katuseparanduse fondi.. .aga ei ... aferistid kallavad massiliselt, millinite eest iga kuu kõrist alla ja kusevad selle sis meie veesüsteemi, mis omakorda maksab seda rämpsu puhastada,
sest ega viinane uriin ole nii kerge loodusele kui päris uriin, keegi need tonnid peab ju puhtaks filtreerima,
ja sellist aferisliku jama ajada meedias, et see kudiagi eestile kasulik on, siin inimesi alkoholi joobes hoida;
et neil ajud udused oleks ja meelsus pehmolik.. see lihtsalt nii näraklik ,et raske kohe ...
peab kordama "ära mine närvi ...ära mine närvi " lauluridu :D
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on raske leida kultuurile veel kasutuimaid ja kahjulikke ja kahjulike tulemusi toovaid tegevusi kui joomine ja suitsetamine.
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Vägivalla SUURIM toetuselement on alkohol
Suhete lõhkumise SUURIM faktor on alkohol
Kuritegevuse SUURIM osa on alkohol
Laste-Vanemate suhete hääbumine, kultuuri väärtustest mitte arusaamine, väärtuste väärastumine jne need KÕIK on alkoholi osas kas OTSENE põhjustaja , või väga suurt põhjust ja toetavat elementi omav,
kes sellest pole julgenud aru saada, siis hirmuäratav moelda millest veel arusaadud pole võimelised julgema.
Vaimset pimedust ka toidab alkohol,
ja igale asjale võiks veel lisada juurde "+suitsetamine"
TEGELIKUD põhjused ja skeemid nende ainete osas,
Mis MEELEGA globaalselt hoitud ninaall.. on aga nii scientsfictioni katekoorias enamuste jaoks, et neid ei saa selgitadagi siin mu keeleoskuse juures.
Kindlasti olemas tarku inimesi kes sellest asjast päriselt arusaanud piisavalt suurelt ja oskaks ka väljendada, annaks mõistust neile need lood lnti lugeda
tuleviku generatsioonid ehk saavad aru, praegu ollakse suures mass deliiriumis..
Ainuke lootus veel kui kanep ja loodusrohud impeeriumi alt vabaks saaks, siis inimesed tarkust ise nägema ja kogema hakkvad
Margus Meigo Selle looga mis kirjutasid, on pikk ja kena kuid kahjuks see sobib alkoholi PR'iks.
Eestlasena me ei tohi olla nii lambad, et ei saa aru mis on Eesti poolt ja Vastu.
See, et me alkoholi osas ühendame ennast, see on juba iseenesest rahva lõpliku hävituse märk, viimane laiba korin võiks õelda.
Mis baltiketi hõng? Kus need koossõitjad miljardi tehase katkestamisel on ? Pole kuulda.
IGA pudel mis Eesti pinnal ostetud, ONGI juba miinus ja Eesti vastane kui suures õiges plaanis vaadata.
Siin ei saa nii narrilt lipsumehelikult mõeld,a et EESTI kuidagi kannataks, kui iniemsed ostavad bensiini lätist ja viina mida iganes sealt mõned aastad, see täeisti Jabur raskesti mõõdetavates kõrgustes, kui asume oma riigi väärtusi ja stabiilsust selliste VÄLISTE sissetoodud asjade narisse nagu kes kust paar paaki ostab ja mitme millini eest keegi viina välismaalt ostab, pealegi armasta naabrit,
Mis selles halba on, et Läti saab raha ? Mis sellest saab kahjulikku Eestile olla?
See tugevndab sidemeid kahe riigi vahel, kui lätikad meie läbi teenivad, ja see täesiti normaalne.
Sellised JUBEDAD näited, et me peame hoidma alkoholi läbi soome turiste endal
ja oma rahvale mürki alla kallama kärist,et siis saaks nende pealt aktsiisi, see nii lapsik ja jube, kahjulik,
marru ajav propakanda et paneb tahtma krive kätte haarata ja kuskil mingi asutus puruks peksta (mitte küll Sinu vastu Indrek, kuid kes selle PR taga onm mida kaitsed)
seegi poleks piisavalt radikaalne niisuuremeelsuse hullumeelsuse vastu mida inimesed lasevavd oma ajudega teha, kus kõige elementaarsemad eluarusaamad on peapeale pööratud
Manage
_____________
Niipalju üle ääre ajavaid jubedaid arusaame oli üheksoos, mis otseselt PÄRIS EESTI vastased, et raske reageerida kohe , nukraks teeb
Lätist ostetkase.. jube asi küll. .mis need lätlased on mingi inimsööjatest tulnukad ja terroristid kes selle raha siis selleks teevad, koguvad, et meile sellega pärast kallale tulla v?
MIs haige arusaamasaab olla eesimaainimeste päe pandud, selles osas pahasti tunda.
EGA siis ei saa olla inimese väärtus meie maal selelga seotud, et ta siin bensiini ja viina ostab, vaid loeb ikka mida ta kodanikuna siin teeb.,
Kelle vianuke väärtus on see, et ta makse kogub viina ja bensiiniga siis tema võiks osta paagi täis ja siit minema sõit,a võimalikult kaugele,
__________
Nii naeruväärseks me riiki teha ei tasu, et me viina ja kytyuse aksiisist elame,
ja enamus viin on ka ameerika oma ja välismaa oma mis meile sisse tuuakse ja KÕIK kütus on välismaa oma, seeega teenid ikkagi samasi peremehi ka siis kui teist külast ostad, raha läheb ikkasamade lipsude taskussse,
kuid eelkõige, tuleb arusaada,
ilma absoluuutse igasuguse vaidluseta,
ET IGA PUDEL ALKOHOL IMIS OSTAD EESTI PINNAL, EESTIS TEENITUD RAHA EEST ON EESTIVASTANE KURITEGU,
Saaks selle raha anda pesnionärile ostmaks talle jalutus käru,
või vaeslastele ostmaks neile tarvilise eraõpetaja kes neiel aru pähe paneb
või koguda oma naise või laste tarvis, et neid kuskile saata, neile midagi osta,
või saata maameestele, et nad saaksid uue saha osta, et talvel lund lahti lükata,
või kellegi maa mammi katuseparanduse fondi.. .aga ei ... aferistid kallavad massiliselt, millinite eest iga kuu kõrist alla ja kusevad selle sis meie veesüsteemi, mis omakorda maksab seda rämpsu puhastada,
sest ega viinane uriin ole nii kerge loodusele kui päris uriin, keegi need tonnid peab ju puhtaks filtreerima,
ja sellist aferisliku jama ajada meedias, et see kudiagi eestile kasulik on, siin inimesi alkoholi joobes hoida;
et neil ajud udused oleks ja meelsus pehmolik.. see lihtsalt nii näraklik ,et raske kohe ...
peab kordama "ära mine närvi ...ära mine närvi " lauluridu :D
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on raske leida kultuurile veel kasutuimaid ja kahjulikke ja kahjulike tulemusi toovaid tegevusi kui joomine ja suitsetamine.
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Vägivalla SUURIM toetuselement on alkohol
Suhete lõhkumise SUURIM faktor on alkohol
Kuritegevuse SUURIM osa on alkohol
Laste-Vanemate suhete hääbumine, kultuuri väärtustest mitte arusaamine, väärtuste väärastumine jne need KÕIK on alkoholi osas kas OTSENE põhjustaja , või väga suurt põhjust ja toetavat elementi omav,
kes sellest pole julgenud aru saada, siis hirmuäratav moelda millest veel arusaadud pole võimelised julgema.
Vaimset pimedust ka toidab alkohol,
ja igale asjale võiks veel lisada juurde "+suitsetamine"
TEGELIKUD põhjused ja skeemid nende ainete osas,
Mis MEELEGA globaalselt hoitud ninaall.. on aga nii scientsfictioni katekoorias enamuste jaoks, et neid ei saa selgitadagi siin mu keeleoskuse juures.
Kindlasti olemas tarku inimesi kes sellest asjast päriselt arusaanud piisavalt suurelt ja oskaks ka väljendada, annaks mõistust neile need lood lnti lugeda
tuleviku generatsioonid ehk saavad aru, praegu ollakse suures mass deliiriumis..
Ainuke lootus veel kui kanep ja loodusrohud impeeriumi alt vabaks saaks, siis inimesed tarkust ise nägema ja kogema hakkvad
7 April 2018 17:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Indrek Salumäe jätan Su kommentaari siia ikkagi täeis pikkuses, et oleks hea tuua näidet ja näiteid meie kultuuriruumis, erinevat versiooni Alkoholi PR ja propakanda osas
Sinu kommentaar siin:
"Indrek Salumäe Võtsin osa sellest aastapäeva matkast suuremas kolonnis.
Meelestatus oli ülev - vb lähim mida on võimalik viimase 25+ aasta jooksul kogeda peale balti ketti.
Alkoholi üritusel näha ei olnud ja niiöelda "alkosõit" ei peatunud alko 1000 juures.
Kogu see üritus ei olnud Eesti maa pihta vaid kindlasti poolt.
Kui aga seadus ja maksusüsteem riigi enda ja rahva pihta kõrge kaarega kuseb siis mis vahenditega seda efektiivselt väljendada ?
See idee oli ootamatu ja silmapaistev ja ajastus väga hästi valitud.
Sest mille vastu protestiti ei olnud mitte see et "vähe saab juua" - vaid et otsuste põhi aur läheb vales suunas ja otsuseid tehakse valesti.
Alkoholipoliitika ja aktsiisipoliitika - jah on vajalik ja oleks vägagi mõistlik kui seda alkoholi tarbimist eestlane oluliselt vähendaks.
Kuid ka seesama eestlane kes ostab oma kütuse ja alkoholi lätist saab aru et sellega kannatab Eesti majandus ja ühiskondlik heaolu.
Aga teeb selle ostu siiski lätis. Miks ?
Väga lihtne . tõmbame ühe exeli tabeli kokku kui suured on palgad lõuna eestis ja kui suur on töötuse määr ?
Kui suur on aktsiiside hinnavahe ja kui suur on kütusekulu kui sõita 5-30min kuni 1h korra nädalas lätti. (mitte kuigi suur).
Kui palka pole siis iga kaine mõistusega inimene teeks samasuguse kaalutletud otsuse kuna tal lihtsalt on nii kasulikum ja parem ja mugavam ja soovib endale ja perele parimat - sel hetkel kui pead lugema summasid euro ja sendi täpsusega jääb riik ja muu toompea üsna kaugeks huviks ja nii jääbki alati olema.
et ma lambist ei lõõbiks siin- siis vaja on lahendusi.
Probleemid on - maksutulu mitte laekumine seoses rändega lätti ?
okei. Aga mis siis saab kui piiriäärsetel elanikel oleks aktsiis astmeline.?
elad piiri ääres ja oled sisse kirjutatud sinna piirkonda - voila - järsku tasub tankida autot eestis ja osta oma reede õhtune õlle kodupoest.
Hüppeliselt kasvaks ka sissekirjutuste arv maapiirkondades lõuna eestis ja areneks infrastruktuur.
miks mitte ?
miks mitte teha soome kodanikele eriaktsiis eesti pinnal ja jätta läti turism soome suunalt eesti pinnale ?
Miks mitte ?
kindlasti on võimalik neid samu exeli tabeleid millega kõike põhjendatakse ja planeeritakse ja prognoositakse võimalik teise loogika alusel toimima panna NII - et kõigile kohale jõuaks et otsuseid tehakse riigi ja rahva huvides mitte turumajanduse põhimõtetel kus PEAB olema lihtsalt tõus laekumistes iga aasta - ja kui majandus ei tõuse siis peab järelikult maksud olema suuremad... ??
Eesti Maksud Sõidavad Lätti oli väga isamaaline üritus ja sellest aktsioonist saab iga aastane ühisüritus või alge teistele analoogsetele üritustele kui muutust ei toimu Eestis.
Anna inimestele valik jätta maksud Eestisse - ja need jäävad ka Eestisse.
Hetkel ainult NÕUTAKSE kuigi valikut tegelikult ei ole.
Rahvas on halb ja paha ja vihkav ja mida kõike veel....
Eestlane on tegelikult väga okei ja mõistlik vend ja saab huumorist aru :D
Aga sitt lugu sellele kes Eestlase närvi ajab....
Kaua kannatab ja kirub omaette ja siis üks hetk ajab karikas üle ja siis toimuvadki aktsioonid mis on lumepalli efektiga. "
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// Vot selline komentaar siis... Mis mul emotsiooni valangu vallandas, mitte isiklikult võtta, sest kui Sa ise ei ole selle ideoloogia esindaja... siis .. siis tea.. et see oli NENDE vastu.. kes Sulle sellised arusaami pannud ja kes teistelegi ühiskonnas nii neid asju kajastnaud..
Sinu kommentaar siin:
"Indrek Salumäe Võtsin osa sellest aastapäeva matkast suuremas kolonnis.
Meelestatus oli ülev - vb lähim mida on võimalik viimase 25+ aasta jooksul kogeda peale balti ketti.
Alkoholi üritusel näha ei olnud ja niiöelda "alkosõit" ei peatunud alko 1000 juures.
Kogu see üritus ei olnud Eesti maa pihta vaid kindlasti poolt.
Kui aga seadus ja maksusüsteem riigi enda ja rahva pihta kõrge kaarega kuseb siis mis vahenditega seda efektiivselt väljendada ?
See idee oli ootamatu ja silmapaistev ja ajastus väga hästi valitud.
Sest mille vastu protestiti ei olnud mitte see et "vähe saab juua" - vaid et otsuste põhi aur läheb vales suunas ja otsuseid tehakse valesti.
Alkoholipoliitika ja aktsiisipoliitika - jah on vajalik ja oleks vägagi mõistlik kui seda alkoholi tarbimist eestlane oluliselt vähendaks.
Kuid ka seesama eestlane kes ostab oma kütuse ja alkoholi lätist saab aru et sellega kannatab Eesti majandus ja ühiskondlik heaolu.
Aga teeb selle ostu siiski lätis. Miks ?
Väga lihtne . tõmbame ühe exeli tabeli kokku kui suured on palgad lõuna eestis ja kui suur on töötuse määr ?
Kui suur on aktsiiside hinnavahe ja kui suur on kütusekulu kui sõita 5-30min kuni 1h korra nädalas lätti. (mitte kuigi suur).
Kui palka pole siis iga kaine mõistusega inimene teeks samasuguse kaalutletud otsuse kuna tal lihtsalt on nii kasulikum ja parem ja mugavam ja soovib endale ja perele parimat - sel hetkel kui pead lugema summasid euro ja sendi täpsusega jääb riik ja muu toompea üsna kaugeks huviks ja nii jääbki alati olema.
et ma lambist ei lõõbiks siin- siis vaja on lahendusi.
Probleemid on - maksutulu mitte laekumine seoses rändega lätti ?
okei. Aga mis siis saab kui piiriäärsetel elanikel oleks aktsiis astmeline.?
elad piiri ääres ja oled sisse kirjutatud sinna piirkonda - voila - järsku tasub tankida autot eestis ja osta oma reede õhtune õlle kodupoest.
Hüppeliselt kasvaks ka sissekirjutuste arv maapiirkondades lõuna eestis ja areneks infrastruktuur.
miks mitte ?
miks mitte teha soome kodanikele eriaktsiis eesti pinnal ja jätta läti turism soome suunalt eesti pinnale ?
Miks mitte ?
kindlasti on võimalik neid samu exeli tabeleid millega kõike põhjendatakse ja planeeritakse ja prognoositakse võimalik teise loogika alusel toimima panna NII - et kõigile kohale jõuaks et otsuseid tehakse riigi ja rahva huvides mitte turumajanduse põhimõtetel kus PEAB olema lihtsalt tõus laekumistes iga aasta - ja kui majandus ei tõuse siis peab järelikult maksud olema suuremad... ??
Eesti Maksud Sõidavad Lätti oli väga isamaaline üritus ja sellest aktsioonist saab iga aastane ühisüritus või alge teistele analoogsetele üritustele kui muutust ei toimu Eestis.
Anna inimestele valik jätta maksud Eestisse - ja need jäävad ka Eestisse.
Hetkel ainult NÕUTAKSE kuigi valikut tegelikult ei ole.
Rahvas on halb ja paha ja vihkav ja mida kõike veel....
Eestlane on tegelikult väga okei ja mõistlik vend ja saab huumorist aru :D
Aga sitt lugu sellele kes Eestlase närvi ajab....
Kaua kannatab ja kirub omaette ja siis üks hetk ajab karikas üle ja siis toimuvadki aktsioonid mis on lumepalli efektiga. "
//
// Vot selline komentaar siis... Mis mul emotsiooni valangu vallandas, mitte isiklikult võtta, sest kui Sa ise ei ole selle ideoloogia esindaja... siis .. siis tea.. et see oli NENDE vastu.. kes Sulle sellised arusaami pannud ja kes teistelegi ühiskonnas nii neid asju kajastnaud..
7 April 2018 16:59
Margus Meigo commented on Евгений Осиновский's post.
Some reading also:
Oxford University: http://bit.ly/Vodga_Politics_Oxford
Audio book versioN: http://bit.ly/Russia_Vodga_StateCraft_Audiobook_Oxford
"Russian history and politics.
In Vodka Politics, Mark Lawrence Schrad argues that debilitating societal alcoholism is NOT hard-wired into Russians' genetic code, but rather their autocratic political system,
which has long wielded vodka as a tool of statecraft. Through a series of historical investigations stretching from Ivan the Terrible through Vladimir Putin,
Vodka Politics presents the secret history of the Russian state itself - a history that is drenched in liquor. Scrutinizing (rather than dismissing) the role of alcohol in Russian politics yields a more nuanced understanding of Russian history itself: from palace intrigues under the tsars to the drunken antics of Soviet and post-Soviet leadership, vodka is there in abundance.
Beyond vivid anecdotes, Schrad scours original documents and archival evidence to answer provocative historical questions. How have Russia's rulers used alcohol to solidify their autocratic rule? What role did alcohol play in tsarist coups? Was Nicholas II's ill-fated prohibition a catalyst for the Bolshevik Revolution? ... "
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We must understand how alcohol mafia works!
Peame mõistma, alkoholi maafia on seotud nii vanade luure kui muude suurte lipsumeeste võrkudega, kes kõik koos on nõus rahvast manipuleerima kui keegi jugeb hakata torkima nende aluspindasi, mis võivad suuresplaanis tulevikus alkoholi kasutmaise (seega rhva üle kontrolli vähendamise) suunas.
Kui rahvas selgemeelseks saab siis nad ju pole sotsalistlikud vaid selgemeelsed ja saavad ise korraldada .. pole manipuleeritud nii kergesti.. ja veel pahad vaimud ka ei saa ligi nii lihtsalt, kui inimene kaine
Oxford University: http://bit.ly/Vodga_Politics_Oxford
Audio book versioN: http://bit.ly/Russia_Vodga_StateCraft_Audiobook_Oxford
"Russian history and politics.
In Vodka Politics, Mark Lawrence Schrad argues that debilitating societal alcoholism is NOT hard-wired into Russians' genetic code, but rather their autocratic political system,
which has long wielded vodka as a tool of statecraft. Through a series of historical investigations stretching from Ivan the Terrible through Vladimir Putin,
Vodka Politics presents the secret history of the Russian state itself - a history that is drenched in liquor. Scrutinizing (rather than dismissing) the role of alcohol in Russian politics yields a more nuanced understanding of Russian history itself: from palace intrigues under the tsars to the drunken antics of Soviet and post-Soviet leadership, vodka is there in abundance.
Beyond vivid anecdotes, Schrad scours original documents and archival evidence to answer provocative historical questions. How have Russia's rulers used alcohol to solidify their autocratic rule? What role did alcohol play in tsarist coups? Was Nicholas II's ill-fated prohibition a catalyst for the Bolshevik Revolution? ... "
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We must understand how alcohol mafia works!
Peame mõistma, alkoholi maafia on seotud nii vanade luure kui muude suurte lipsumeeste võrkudega, kes kõik koos on nõus rahvast manipuleerima kui keegi jugeb hakata torkima nende aluspindasi, mis võivad suuresplaanis tulevikus alkoholi kasutmaise (seega rhva üle kontrolli vähendamise) suunas.
Kui rahvas selgemeelseks saab siis nad ju pole sotsalistlikud vaid selgemeelsed ja saavad ise korraldada .. pole manipuleeritud nii kergesti.. ja veel pahad vaimud ka ei saa ligi nii lihtsalt, kui inimene kaine
http://bit.ly/Vodga_Politics_Oxford
7 April 2018 16:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"In Vodka Politics, Mark Lawrence Schrad argues that debilitating societal alcoholism is not hard-wired into Russians' genetic code, but rather their autocratic political system, which has long wielded vodka as a tool of statecraft. Through a series of historical investigations stretching from Ivan the Terrible through Vladimir Putin, Vodka Politics presents the secret history of the Russian state itself-a history that is drenched in liquor. Scrutinizing (rather than dismissing) the role of alcohol in Russian politics yields a more nuanced understanding of Russian history itself: from palace intrigues under the tsars to the drunken antics of Soviet and post-Soviet leadership, vodka is there in abundance.
Beyond vivid anecdotes, Schrad scours original documents and archival evidence to answer provocative historical questions. How have Russia's rulers used alcohol to solidify their autocratic rule? "
Beyond vivid anecdotes, Schrad scours original documents and archival evidence to answer provocative historical questions. How have Russia's rulers used alcohol to solidify their autocratic rule? "
7 April 2018 16:26
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Vahest tuleb ratsaväele vastu minna muidu sõidavad sinust üle,
Sa ehk oma tarkuses selgitaksid, siis , mis strkuktuurid ja olukorrad takistavad moseede ehtiust siin, juhuks kui keegi miljardnär otsustab, et tal äriliselt seda maanurka siin vaja, ja tal selleks vaja siin paarituhandeline moslemite kohulik komuun tekitada.
Mis usuline aluspind siin on, mis kaitseks selle eest?
Ainukesed kaitsed mis saavad olla, kui on mingi muu usu maalaees, siis sinna nad nii kergesti ei saa, aga kui on "vaba maa" ja veel usuvaba.. ja veel sedustega nagu praegu, kus IGA välismaalane võib osta alatiseks ükskõik mis ala eestist.. läbi skeemide otse nagu eestlased ostaks ja ka otse ise, "EU kodanikuna "
mis sind nii muretult seda asja vaatama paneb?
Sa ehk oma tarkuses selgitaksid, siis , mis strkuktuurid ja olukorrad takistavad moseede ehtiust siin, juhuks kui keegi miljardnär otsustab, et tal äriliselt seda maanurka siin vaja, ja tal selleks vaja siin paarituhandeline moslemite kohulik komuun tekitada.
Mis usuline aluspind siin on, mis kaitseks selle eest?
Ainukesed kaitsed mis saavad olla, kui on mingi muu usu maalaees, siis sinna nad nii kergesti ei saa, aga kui on "vaba maa" ja veel usuvaba.. ja veel sedustega nagu praegu, kus IGA välismaalane võib osta alatiseks ükskõik mis ala eestist.. läbi skeemide otse nagu eestlased ostaks ja ka otse ise, "EU kodanikuna "
mis sind nii muretult seda asja vaatama paneb?
7 April 2018 16:22
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Jääd Kristlusele lootma, et Kristlikud jõud piisavalt tugevad või, et mingid muud välismaa jõud ei luba?
Eestlastel tundub, et raskusi nii lihtsa asja nagu Tehase ehitamise peatmaisega emajõele või raudtee project, mis pikas ja suures plaanis ei ole võrdväärsed mošee suuruse ja tähtsusega, sest nende misioonid on sadades aastates miinimum, raudteed ei kasutagi keegi enam siis, praegugi kjuba, ammu saaks hõljuklaevadega tegeleda..
Kuid yeah.. ainult kuna kohalik komuun nii olematu neil praegu.. kuid see asi saab muutuda paari aaastaga legaalselt, LIHTSALT... sedused muutuvad ja käsud muutuvad, ja pole mingit muret 10 inimest siia lühikese ajaga juurdetuua, kuna nad maa omanikud saavad olla ja asjalikud sisseutlekute puhul, olgu neil siis oma e-erid vms huvid.. ja kui keegi jugeb neid takistada, et islami usu asja alusel.. siis meie põhisedus juba ise hakkab neid kaitsma, usuvabadus ju kirjas,
Paar miljardit pilduda siia selle tarvis kui vaja , ku ireaalselt vaja, pole Mingisugune mure, ... ja see, ku iasi on AINULT raha taga, nagu ta praegu on, siis see on JÄTKUSUUTLIK riskantne ohtlik olukord.
See tuleb ennetada,
Eestlastel tundub, et raskusi nii lihtsa asja nagu Tehase ehitamise peatmaisega emajõele või raudtee project, mis pikas ja suures plaanis ei ole võrdväärsed mošee suuruse ja tähtsusega, sest nende misioonid on sadades aastates miinimum, raudteed ei kasutagi keegi enam siis, praegugi kjuba, ammu saaks hõljuklaevadega tegeleda..
Kuid yeah.. ainult kuna kohalik komuun nii olematu neil praegu.. kuid see asi saab muutuda paari aaastaga legaalselt, LIHTSALT... sedused muutuvad ja käsud muutuvad, ja pole mingit muret 10 inimest siia lühikese ajaga juurdetuua, kuna nad maa omanikud saavad olla ja asjalikud sisseutlekute puhul, olgu neil siis oma e-erid vms huvid.. ja kui keegi jugeb neid takistada, et islami usu asja alusel.. siis meie põhisedus juba ise hakkab neid kaitsma, usuvabadus ju kirjas,
Paar miljardit pilduda siia selle tarvis kui vaja , ku ireaalselt vaja, pole Mingisugune mure, ... ja see, ku iasi on AINULT raha taga, nagu ta praegu on, siis see on JÄTKUSUUTLIK riskantne ohtlik olukord.
See tuleb ennetada,
7 April 2018 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on Taavi Tillmann's post.
Taolise suunalised (http://bit.ly/Vodga_Politics_Oxford) kuid veelgi teravamad ja "väljastpool kasti" arusaamad peaks olema kohustuslikud meie ühiskonnas, senikaua kui Alkoholi Maafia, Greeka-Rooma & Viisnurga-Pentagrammi ühiskond meil valitseb
Audio Raamatu versioon:
http://bit.ly/Russia_Vodga_StateCraft_Audiobook_Oxford
Teine raamat mis Meie pärimusrhvameelsemalt, annab väikset arusaama sellest mis moodi alkoholi reaalselt kaustati vallutatavate kutluuride hävituseks ja kontrolliks siis saab ridadevahelt lugedes ka siit päris head lisa: https://loterii.blogspot.com.ee/2009/02/anna-reid-samaani-ruu-siberi.html (Siberi põlisrahvaste lugu)
Kuid meie ise peaksime kokku koguma taolisi materiale ja neile oma kihi peale panema,
selgitamaks mida nad selgitavad ja milleks need asjad kasulikud on meie lastelastele oskamaks meid kaitsta selle eest mille ohvriks ise siinai suuresosas veel langenud oleme siiralt
Audio Raamatu versioon:
http://bit.ly/Russia_Vodga_StateCraft_Audiobook_Oxford
Teine raamat mis Meie pärimusrhvameelsemalt, annab väikset arusaama sellest mis moodi alkoholi reaalselt kaustati vallutatavate kutluuride hävituseks ja kontrolliks siis saab ridadevahelt lugedes ka siit päris head lisa: https://loterii.blogspot.com.ee/2009/02/anna-reid-samaani-ruu-siberi.html (Siberi põlisrahvaste lugu)
Kuid meie ise peaksime kokku koguma taolisi materiale ja neile oma kihi peale panema,
selgitamaks mida nad selgitavad ja milleks need asjad kasulikud on meie lastelastele oskamaks meid kaitsta selle eest mille ohvriks ise siinai suuresosas veel langenud oleme siiralt
http://bit.ly/Vodga_Politics_Oxford
7 April 2018 16:10
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Tamm's comment.
kalamaja vana naine kes koristaja, ... küsisin tla et mis need 2-3 nda klassi lapsed sedasi peksavad jagadega yksteis,t röögivad, ropendavad... et miks ta korvust ei võta, siis siiralt ütles, et ta saaks vastu hambaid siis suure tõenäosusega ja lastaks lahti ka veel
7 April 2018 15:44
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Tamm's comment.
lihtsad struktuurid saaks teha, kui vaid soovi ja raha antaks selleks, mul juba ammu ilma need võrgud peaslemas mis sellele kooli mafioosotamisele enamuses lopu tooks.. aga näib, nagu soovi poleks reaalselt,
Kuid seni kuni täiskasvanud kardavad tatikaid jalgupidi lakke tirida ja kiusajatele nuplit anda ja õpilastel endal moistust pole kurjategijaid järjepidevalt lindistada, et tõestusmaterial kokku saaks... siis mis siis teha..
Kuid seni kuni täiskasvanud kardavad tatikaid jalgupidi lakke tirida ja kiusajatele nuplit anda ja õpilastel endal moistust pole kurjategijaid järjepidevalt lindistada, et tõestusmaterial kokku saaks... siis mis siis teha..
7 April 2018 15:43
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kuid kui punased mei lvõitu ei saa siis nad juba kättemaksuks meeile moslemidsaadavad, ja mittte selle sekti, kes tervemelsed
7 April 2018 15:41
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Meil siin läheb aega ainult veel suts
7 April 2018 15:40
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Igaljuhul kui me seda ise ära ei tee siis jääbki murehammas alati alles, kui nad teevad.. ja seda saavad ehtud kohe kui muud asjad rahunevad, et neil aega siia raha pöörata, (kui just KGB vms ei suna rahasi neileenneaegselt, et meelga siia omavõrgu baas luua)
ei ole ühtegi maad mida nad ei peaks oma usuosas üle võtma, et seda päästa, kõik ülejäänud tuleb hävitada on nede aursaam mis kuulsin, ja ku ivaja, siis imbutakse mitukümned aastat sisse läbi perede ja poliitika,
nagu UK linapeaks sai tänu kommunistlikule internatside võimsamale UK rogile : Fabian Society orgnisatsioonile , sai moslem nagu naksti keset moslmei suuri terrori jutte ja muresi, mingit probleemi polnud
ei ole ühtegi maad mida nad ei peaks oma usuosas üle võtma, et seda päästa, kõik ülejäänud tuleb hävitada on nede aursaam mis kuulsin, ja ku ivaja, siis imbutakse mitukümned aastat sisse läbi perede ja poliitika,
nagu UK linapeaks sai tänu kommunistlikule internatside võimsamale UK rogile : Fabian Society orgnisatsioonile , sai moslem nagu naksti keset moslmei suuri terrori jutte ja muresi, mingit probleemi polnud
7 April 2018 15:40
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov mida sul ei tule ? Vaata tulevikku 50 aastat suts,
Kui reil baltika ka tuleb, siis pole ÜLDSE kahtlust.
Ja nagu öeldud sai, neil mošee jba ülemistel olemas juriidiiselt, käsiin ise ka sääl Jumalasõna viimas
Kui reil baltika ka tuleb, siis pole ÜLDSE kahtlust.
Ja nagu öeldud sai, neil mošee jba ülemistel olemas juriidiiselt, käsiin ise ka sääl Jumalasõna viimas
7 April 2018 15:37
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
milajdise thease osas.. ku inemad saavad.. siin pole yldse kahtlust
7 April 2018 15:31
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
30millionit dollarit ajab asjad korda kergesti
7 April 2018 15:31
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
olgu nad siis gru agentuur või meie vastased prantslased
7 April 2018 15:30
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
sellisest loosungist ei aita kulla inimene, ainuke pohjus miks veel pole tulud, sest VEEL pole me suutnud vihastada kedagi välja ja selle väikse ala osas liigutusi teha, KUna me EI ole iseseisevriik, vaid EU alamsektor, siis siin ei saa meie rik otsustada kas tuleb või ei, see elementaarne,
mei lei ole õigus isegi otsustada, kellele maad müüme, sedusega PEAME kogu vaba maa kellele iganes äramyyma kui nad seda osta soovivad
mei lei ole õigus isegi otsustada, kellele maad müüme, sedusega PEAME kogu vaba maa kellele iganes äramyyma kui nad seda osta soovivad
7 April 2018 15:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja nad on külalised ja jäävad selleks alati, ja kui meie silmis jumala ees nad vääralt, kes iganes nende sketidest käitub siis me ei käitu demokraatlikult, ainult
7 April 2018 15:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
meie aga peame selgitama, et seee kallas mille vastu vesi tuleb, siin on Jumalamaa uus algus
7 April 2018 15:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nad pole byrokraadid.. neile vahest piisa paari inimese õige ja vale jutu kuulmisest, et otsus järgmiseks pooleks sajandiks mingi maa ülevõtuks paika panna.
Ja ku ivaja seda salamoslemitega teha, teevad ka seda... kui vaja riiki välispoliitiliselt nõrgestada...ja meile EU liberaalid kaela saata mitmes muus asjus me kultuuri alustalad likvideerida.. sis teevad ka seda
Ja ku ivaja seda salamoslemitega teha, teevad ka seda... kui vaja riiki välispoliitiliselt nõrgestada...ja meile EU liberaalid kaela saata mitmes muus asjus me kultuuri alustalad likvideerida.. sis teevad ka seda
7 April 2018 15:27
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Mina ammu aastaid tagasi rääkisin, et Mošee peame me ise ehitama, puidust ja uhkeima kui muskil mujal, esimene suur puidust.
Sellel mitu olulist siduvust oleks kuid eelkõige ka selles osas, et saame ise siis hoida kontrolli ja sõprust, siis see ei ole riik-riigis niivõrd, nagu embashy .. mis ta saab ilmselgelt olema, raudselt, kui me seda ise ei tee.
Muidugi selleks mul suur erilist usulisi oli kokku üle maailma uuritud.. u. 10 a tagasi juba pidin meilid teele saatma.
Nüüd veel viimane võimalus ohjad Enda kätte haarata hoopis uue suunaga.
Sest neid moseesi tuleb siia ILMA IGASUGUSE KAHTLUSETA lähi 20 aasta jooksul, kuid kui need valede sidemete ja valede rahadega tulevad,
ja ilmselgelt esiliinis olevad enamasti need sellised on... lisaks muud agendid seda olukorda kasutavad.. siis saab see kohe ülemaailmset toetust mis iganes nurgakivi me äraliigutada soovime kui nad me meelest valede asjadega tegelvad... ja ku ireilbaltika siia tuleb siis saab meil üle öö siia mitutuhat protestorit kohale sõita ilma igasuguse mureta, viisakad EU inimesed keda ei tohi puutuda.
Siin on ainuke asi ise ennetada ja JUMALIKULT asjale vastu minna, anda neile oma koiku, aga et meie anname, meie puidust, meie ja nende puutööliste tipud.. toopme National Geographicu kohale.. jne... ja see nii puhas ja korralik tuleb, et pätt moseelased ei juge ligi tullagi ja ku itulevad, siis neil vaimupuhastus iseenesest tekib.
Siis kui piisavalt suur ja võimas keskus meil ise tehtud on,
siis TEISE fraktsiooni moslemlased enam nii lihtsalt rahastust ja toetust ei saa oma asja jaoks...
aga ESIMESE jaoks saavad nad kergesti lopuks kui vähgi targemalt tegutsevad.
Mitteamelik mošee neil ülemistel toimib juba ammust aega, jalapesu vannid sees ja vaibad põrandal kus nad plaani ammu pidanud.
Käsin ka jumalasõna neile viimas,
neil ülioluline poliitiliselt selgeks teha, et me täeisti jumalausulised, mitte jeesuse usulised väära luterlikuse vaatevinklist või veel mone.. kuid et meie jaoks on Islam jumala üks varjante neile kes ei sanud õigest isreali jumala sõnumist aru ja siis jumal tegi selle kultuur jaoks oma moodi versiooni, et neid inimestemaks kasvatada.. nu umbes sedamoodi,
siin pole vaja moelda mida ajaloakadeemikud räägivad vaid mida süda ja jumalaahääl, sest kui paduusklikute moslemitega saada silmitsi, siis nende organsiatsioonidel, on misioon maamunalt lopuks peale inflatreerimist LIKVIDEERIDA kõik jumalausus nõrgad ja jumalatud inimesed... seega meie siin peaksime pigem ylema, et me JUMALIKUIM maa ja JUMALA asi meil nii elementaarne, ainult vaevaks viisnurgad ja lipsud kaelas kes siin meid jooma ja läbustama toob.. oluline ka kommiunismi asi neile selgitada, et see jumalavastane relv ja seega meie ja juutide vastane.. .ja ka nende... sest uued moslemilased UKs aktiivsed, need väga koosparaleelselt juba osade punaste ideoloogiatega toimiseid ja käituisd.
Sellel mitu olulist siduvust oleks kuid eelkõige ka selles osas, et saame ise siis hoida kontrolli ja sõprust, siis see ei ole riik-riigis niivõrd, nagu embashy .. mis ta saab ilmselgelt olema, raudselt, kui me seda ise ei tee.
Muidugi selleks mul suur erilist usulisi oli kokku üle maailma uuritud.. u. 10 a tagasi juba pidin meilid teele saatma.
Nüüd veel viimane võimalus ohjad Enda kätte haarata hoopis uue suunaga.
Sest neid moseesi tuleb siia ILMA IGASUGUSE KAHTLUSETA lähi 20 aasta jooksul, kuid kui need valede sidemete ja valede rahadega tulevad,
ja ilmselgelt esiliinis olevad enamasti need sellised on... lisaks muud agendid seda olukorda kasutavad.. siis saab see kohe ülemaailmset toetust mis iganes nurgakivi me äraliigutada soovime kui nad me meelest valede asjadega tegelvad... ja ku ireilbaltika siia tuleb siis saab meil üle öö siia mitutuhat protestorit kohale sõita ilma igasuguse mureta, viisakad EU inimesed keda ei tohi puutuda.
Siin on ainuke asi ise ennetada ja JUMALIKULT asjale vastu minna, anda neile oma koiku, aga et meie anname, meie puidust, meie ja nende puutööliste tipud.. toopme National Geographicu kohale.. jne... ja see nii puhas ja korralik tuleb, et pätt moseelased ei juge ligi tullagi ja ku itulevad, siis neil vaimupuhastus iseenesest tekib.
Siis kui piisavalt suur ja võimas keskus meil ise tehtud on,
siis TEISE fraktsiooni moslemlased enam nii lihtsalt rahastust ja toetust ei saa oma asja jaoks...
aga ESIMESE jaoks saavad nad kergesti lopuks kui vähgi targemalt tegutsevad.
Mitteamelik mošee neil ülemistel toimib juba ammust aega, jalapesu vannid sees ja vaibad põrandal kus nad plaani ammu pidanud.
Käsin ka jumalasõna neile viimas,
neil ülioluline poliitiliselt selgeks teha, et me täeisti jumalausulised, mitte jeesuse usulised väära luterlikuse vaatevinklist või veel mone.. kuid et meie jaoks on Islam jumala üks varjante neile kes ei sanud õigest isreali jumala sõnumist aru ja siis jumal tegi selle kultuur jaoks oma moodi versiooni, et neid inimestemaks kasvatada.. nu umbes sedamoodi,
siin pole vaja moelda mida ajaloakadeemikud räägivad vaid mida süda ja jumalaahääl, sest kui paduusklikute moslemitega saada silmitsi, siis nende organsiatsioonidel, on misioon maamunalt lopuks peale inflatreerimist LIKVIDEERIDA kõik jumalausus nõrgad ja jumalatud inimesed... seega meie siin peaksime pigem ylema, et me JUMALIKUIM maa ja JUMALA asi meil nii elementaarne, ainult vaevaks viisnurgad ja lipsud kaelas kes siin meid jooma ja läbustama toob.. oluline ka kommiunismi asi neile selgitada, et see jumalavastane relv ja seega meie ja juutide vastane.. .ja ka nende... sest uued moslemilased UKs aktiivsed, need väga koosparaleelselt juba osade punaste ideoloogiatega toimiseid ja käituisd.
7 April 2018 15:25
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's live video.
Mis toimub, kes kraana ümber ?
7 April 2018 15:14
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Pesu's comment.
Malle Salu Ma ka tänan kuid selle lõpu peab, lihtsalt PEAB ta veel mingi kärna, lootuse, USU rahvale jätma, isegi kui juriidikas see ei loe.. siis rahval vaja usus hoida, et millisena mees taandus.. et 20 aasta pärast see meelde tuletada, kes oli julge !
7 April 2018 14:09
Margus Meigo commented on Jevgeni Ossinovski's post.
http://bit.ly/Vodga_Politics_Oxford
Fakt on see, et rahvas eeldab ilma Riigimeheliku kaalutlustena, et see oli Alkoholi võit ja, et sunniti taanduma kulisside taga just Alkoholi impeeriumi poolt.
Ei tohi jätta seda muljet, tee selle maine parandamiseks veel midagi enne, kuni veel võimalik ministrina rääkida ja kirja midagi jätta!
Ma hariduseta, šamanilik visioonimees, mis minu asja kuulata, aga loe sellist Oxfordi tähtsal kohal kokkuvõtteid mis niigi tagasihoidlikult tehtud, lubatud piires arvestades tegelikke kurjuse impeeriumi sügavikke:
https://global.oup.com/academic/product/vodka-politics-9780190468811?cc=ee&lang=en&
Kunagi ammu sellega seoses ... Sinuga seotud postituse alla paar kuud tagasi päris palju muid seotud teemaga linke sai postitatud
Fakt on see, et rahvas eeldab ilma Riigimeheliku kaalutlustena, et see oli Alkoholi võit ja, et sunniti taanduma kulisside taga just Alkoholi impeeriumi poolt.
Ei tohi jätta seda muljet, tee selle maine parandamiseks veel midagi enne, kuni veel võimalik ministrina rääkida ja kirja midagi jätta!
Ma hariduseta, šamanilik visioonimees, mis minu asja kuulata, aga loe sellist Oxfordi tähtsal kohal kokkuvõtteid mis niigi tagasihoidlikult tehtud, lubatud piires arvestades tegelikke kurjuse impeeriumi sügavikke:
https://global.oup.com/academic/product/vodka-politics-9780190468811?cc=ee&lang=en&
Kunagi ammu sellega seoses ... Sinuga seotud postituse alla paar kuud tagasi päris palju muid seotud teemaga linke sai postitatud
http://bit.ly/Vodga_Politics_Oxford
7 April 2018 14:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
turump-lastel
7 April 2018 13:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
...kuid nogh kui nad selle võimu kätte saanud, ju nad siis enda tarvis selel haisu kunagi likvideerivad u 50 aasta päeast... kuid kas siis enam saab järgi olla seda tugisammast SELLE maailma nurgal, nii olulist ku itartu olnud on meie riigi hoidmisel mis omakorda kogu maailma tervemeelsuse hoidja on hoopis suuremates viamsetes sfäärides.. millest jääb isegi unistus nägemata... arusaamata vast enamsutele kui sedasi uputame ja oma sood kuivatada laseme trumplastel
7 April 2018 13:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
5 a pärast hiljemalt siis järgmine juba.. likvideerivad häälekamad vasturääkidjad.. ja 25 aastpärast ongi tööstusiperialistide käes ja kogu võm alatiseks tartul läinud .. ainuke asi mis jääb seda meelde tuletama, on hais
7 April 2018 13:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kultuuri ehk arengu, Arngu mida sab arenguks nimetada.. areng on ka kui suuta 300 aastat ühte metsatukka samasuguse pühadusena hoida, ilma mureta... kuid misarneg meil praegu on... surnuaedades ka lageraiet tehtud ja parkides ja pühakohtades ja teeäärsed aleed ja... ja siis veel lubatakse üldse arutada, seda jama et Miljardine Tartu hävituse tehas meie maa hinge, ema südamikku panna, ... vist ei saada aru mis järgmised sammud on ja õigused kui ühe lubad sisse sellise..
7 April 2018 13:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja seegi oligi imeväärne, et lipsuotsas niigiplaju jugettehtud, sõrmedel saab üles lugeda neid Riigimehi kes lipsuga saanud meie kultuuri jaoks midagi olulist läbisurutud,
midagi mis nagunii muude välismõjutuste mõjul poleks niiehknii kohale saabunud ...
enamus riike ju vist ei märgata, et kahtlaselt samas sturktuuuris jooksutatakse.. enamus on "DemokraatlikuD"...
Ei ole eriti näha normalasuse suunalisi, reaalvalitsejate ja kultuurimeelsete maade arengut
midagi mis nagunii muude välismõjutuste mõjul poleks niiehknii kohale saabunud ...
enamus riike ju vist ei märgata, et kahtlaselt samas sturktuuuris jooksutatakse.. enamus on "DemokraatlikuD"...
Ei ole eriti näha normalasuse suunalisi, reaalvalitsejate ja kultuurimeelsete maade arengut
7 April 2018 13:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Senikaua kui allutakse lipsukandisele ei ole niisuurt lootust, et tõde ja julgus, Kodumaalisus, Eestimaalisus õitsele puhkeks
Siis nad leiavad mooduse Su hirmutamiseks ja ketikorana niitepidi tõmmates..
Siis nad leiavad mooduse Su hirmutamiseks ja ketikorana niitepidi tõmmates..
7 April 2018 13:52
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov vast kuulsin valesti, kuulan uuesti,
Ütles eetris "Annan kiusajatele valge kaardi"
keegi taukari soenguga kutt
Ütles eetris "Annan kiusajatele valge kaardi"
keegi taukari soenguga kutt
7 April 2018 13:50
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Tamm's comment.
See nagu kommunistid harjutavad ajaliselt märke kandma inimesi,
nii ameerikas kui inglismaal, 1:1 sama kampaania, ainuke vahe, et meil kantakse sinist lillle kuid nagu mis asja... kust see .. kes selle kampaania algatuse idee autor on,
eetrites jne.
Olgugi, et autusväärsete ajalooseikade osas.. kuid ega siis oleks asjast kasu ainult kui sellega kaasneks ka asjade selgitamine, ennetamine ja selle ajalootunni kuidagi praktiliseks keeramine
nii ameerikas kui inglismaal, 1:1 sama kampaania, ainuke vahe, et meil kantakse sinist lillle kuid nagu mis asja... kust see .. kes selle kampaania algatuse idee autor on,
eetrites jne.
Olgugi, et autusväärsete ajalooseikade osas.. kuid ega siis oleks asjast kasu ainult kui sellega kaasneks ka asjade selgitamine, ennetamine ja selle ajalootunni kuidagi praktiliseks keeramine
7 April 2018 13:49
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
KIUSAJATE osas tolerantsust ja hoolimist?
Ma nii loodsin, et sain sellest valesti aru
Ma nii loodsin, et sain sellest valesti aru
7 April 2018 13:47
Margus Meigo replied to Kristel Pohlak's comment.
Kuld!
7 April 2018 13:46
Margus Meigo commented on Jevgeni Ossinovski's post.
Elan Sots maja inimestega kus inimesed saavad toetusi niisama iga kuu 250 st 400 ni mida kuulnud olen,
Ma ise saan ainult 140, kuid no elab kenasti isegi kui pool sellest kingituseks jagada.
Kuid mis on fantastiline, enamus investeerib sellest rahast üle 90% viina ja suitsu ja pooltel raha otsas ka veel kuu keskel.
Kuna toit ja kommunaalid, üür on tasuta. Toitu tuuakse prügikastistki juurde, aga raha investeeritakse peaaegu kõik otseselt viina. Ja see mitmes vaeste pundis olnud kus JUmal mind toonud.
MIKS inimestele, kes on alkoholi sõltuvuses antakse olukord kus nad PEAVAD jäääma alkoholi sõltuvussse?
MIKS riik joomapunkreid üleval hoiab, mis skeem see on ??
Ja peaagu KÕIK, nad eranditult enamuses on siiani olnud äärmiselt riigi vastased ka ja masenduses, kuig saavad mitusada eurot viinaraha (kjutage ette, 100 eurot on 25 pudelit viina, keskmiselt inimese kohta siis ostetakse KUUS mitukümmend pudelit viina, kudias see normaalne on? )
Nii lihtne oleks teha pangakaardid millega saab ainult toitu osta,
ja las siis olla, et osad toidu viinavastu vahetavad .. vähemalt inimesuhtlust teeevad ja see vahetuste läbi ikka PALJU raskem pooltel vähemalt viinani jõuda. Lisaks saavad inimesed siis osad odavamat toitu ja omakorda saavad joojad vastu vähem alkoholi ku inad sellega OSAD viitsivad tegelema hakata.
Kuid yeah, lihtne elektroonikaga teha vaestele, kellel tõestusmaterial ta suunas, et alkoholi ostab mitukorda nädalas, et tema sots rahade asemel saab sellise pangakaardi omanikuks, millega ei saa alkoholi tooteid ega suitsu osta. Oluline ka suitsuosa siin.
Adekolonni taoline asi hüüdnimega "dildokk" mida viina asemel kasutatakse on ka Väga pop teema, eks nende detialide osas peab veel vaatama.
Kui pole arusaadud, et alkoholi aksepteerimine ühiskonnas hoiab inimeste meele ja hinge sellisena, et ta on mõjutatav ja orjastatav, nii poliitikud ja madalrhvast rääkimata, keda siis kepiga torkides omakorda aetakse kurjaks ja ükskikute vastu kes proovviad olukorda paremaks sikutada.
Pead jätma tugeva sõnumi kõlama uutele julgetele, et Sa ei kaotanud seda võitlust ja soovitad VEEEL tugevamalt selle teema osas tuld anda, sest on palju Väga tugevaid jõude, kes kui näevad, et Sa päriselt alkoholi kurjuse vastu, siis suur hulk usklike ja soome-ugrilasi vaimselt toetavad sind, kuni päris võimu saame korda sätitud, seni kuni ülevalt ja alt purju juuakse iga nädal, ja seda inimõiguselks ja normaalsuseks peetakse, siis ei oel lootust, sest nad lubavad ka ohtlikutle jõududel siis mängu astuda, kes teada annnavad, et "Sul kena pere.. tahadju sellega aega viita ja veel mingil määäral oma poliitikaga tegeleda... seega ... kui õnnetusi ei soovi siis astu eemale.. terpid libedadja südameatakkid kerge tulema ning autod ikka vastassuuna vööndisse võivad sõita kus Sul pere juhtub olema..." vot sellised on elementaarsed alkoholiga koostööd tegevad inimeste jõud ja nende keelekandjad,
see tuleb jätkusuutlikult, sest neiel alludes, meid nagunii alles ei jää, aga õigluse hääl on hoopis suurema häärdega kui tervad keeled olgu neid v kymneid tuhandeid, tõde onsee mis kõlama jääb kui seda julgeme mitmekesiselt ja tugevalt väljendada, ja kõlama jätta.
Ma ise olen muidugi täiesti mitmete teemade vastane, mis punase maiguga, kuid see alkoholi suurimpeeriumi vastu astuda, et Eesti rahvast vabaduse suunas viia, kainuse suunas, see on märkimisväärne julge samm meie maa poliitikas
Igast muud asjad tulevad ja lähevad.. aga akinus on see mis lõpuks määrab mis moodi maa ennast saab käsile võtta ku ivõimalused antud, praegu ei ole võimali kkäsile võtta kuna suur osa maarahvast, arvab, et on mõistli kpurjus olla noored ka sinna otsa ja siis esimehed ka veel takkaotsa!
Saame kaineks!
Ma ise saan ainult 140, kuid no elab kenasti isegi kui pool sellest kingituseks jagada.
Kuid mis on fantastiline, enamus investeerib sellest rahast üle 90% viina ja suitsu ja pooltel raha otsas ka veel kuu keskel.
Kuna toit ja kommunaalid, üür on tasuta. Toitu tuuakse prügikastistki juurde, aga raha investeeritakse peaaegu kõik otseselt viina. Ja see mitmes vaeste pundis olnud kus JUmal mind toonud.
MIKS inimestele, kes on alkoholi sõltuvuses antakse olukord kus nad PEAVAD jäääma alkoholi sõltuvussse?
MIKS riik joomapunkreid üleval hoiab, mis skeem see on ??
Ja peaagu KÕIK, nad eranditult enamuses on siiani olnud äärmiselt riigi vastased ka ja masenduses, kuig saavad mitusada eurot viinaraha (kjutage ette, 100 eurot on 25 pudelit viina, keskmiselt inimese kohta siis ostetakse KUUS mitukümmend pudelit viina, kudias see normaalne on? )
Nii lihtne oleks teha pangakaardid millega saab ainult toitu osta,
ja las siis olla, et osad toidu viinavastu vahetavad .. vähemalt inimesuhtlust teeevad ja see vahetuste läbi ikka PALJU raskem pooltel vähemalt viinani jõuda. Lisaks saavad inimesed siis osad odavamat toitu ja omakorda saavad joojad vastu vähem alkoholi ku inad sellega OSAD viitsivad tegelema hakata.
Kuid yeah, lihtne elektroonikaga teha vaestele, kellel tõestusmaterial ta suunas, et alkoholi ostab mitukorda nädalas, et tema sots rahade asemel saab sellise pangakaardi omanikuks, millega ei saa alkoholi tooteid ega suitsu osta. Oluline ka suitsuosa siin.
Adekolonni taoline asi hüüdnimega "dildokk" mida viina asemel kasutatakse on ka Väga pop teema, eks nende detialide osas peab veel vaatama.
Kui pole arusaadud, et alkoholi aksepteerimine ühiskonnas hoiab inimeste meele ja hinge sellisena, et ta on mõjutatav ja orjastatav, nii poliitikud ja madalrhvast rääkimata, keda siis kepiga torkides omakorda aetakse kurjaks ja ükskikute vastu kes proovviad olukorda paremaks sikutada.
Pead jätma tugeva sõnumi kõlama uutele julgetele, et Sa ei kaotanud seda võitlust ja soovitad VEEEL tugevamalt selle teema osas tuld anda, sest on palju Väga tugevaid jõude, kes kui näevad, et Sa päriselt alkoholi kurjuse vastu, siis suur hulk usklike ja soome-ugrilasi vaimselt toetavad sind, kuni päris võimu saame korda sätitud, seni kuni ülevalt ja alt purju juuakse iga nädal, ja seda inimõiguselks ja normaalsuseks peetakse, siis ei oel lootust, sest nad lubavad ka ohtlikutle jõududel siis mängu astuda, kes teada annnavad, et "Sul kena pere.. tahadju sellega aega viita ja veel mingil määäral oma poliitikaga tegeleda... seega ... kui õnnetusi ei soovi siis astu eemale.. terpid libedadja südameatakkid kerge tulema ning autod ikka vastassuuna vööndisse võivad sõita kus Sul pere juhtub olema..." vot sellised on elementaarsed alkoholiga koostööd tegevad inimeste jõud ja nende keelekandjad,
see tuleb jätkusuutlikult, sest neiel alludes, meid nagunii alles ei jää, aga õigluse hääl on hoopis suurema häärdega kui tervad keeled olgu neid v kymneid tuhandeid, tõde onsee mis kõlama jääb kui seda julgeme mitmekesiselt ja tugevalt väljendada, ja kõlama jätta.
Ma ise olen muidugi täiesti mitmete teemade vastane, mis punase maiguga, kuid see alkoholi suurimpeeriumi vastu astuda, et Eesti rahvast vabaduse suunas viia, kainuse suunas, see on märkimisväärne julge samm meie maa poliitikas
Igast muud asjad tulevad ja lähevad.. aga akinus on see mis lõpuks määrab mis moodi maa ennast saab käsile võtta ku ivõimalused antud, praegu ei ole võimali kkäsile võtta kuna suur osa maarahvast, arvab, et on mõistli kpurjus olla noored ka sinna otsa ja siis esimehed ka veel takkaotsa!
Saame kaineks!
7 April 2018 13:45
Margus Meigo commented on Jevgeni Ossinovski's post.
Äärmiselt nukker Jevgeni Ossinovski, Oleksid võinud ikka anda hooku takka sellel Õigel teel ainult veelgi karmimalt ja siis langeda Õiglasel teel, ... need on Globaalsed vanad suured võimud kes alkoholi firmade taga, kes ametlike röövkultuuridega koostööd teeb KGB tase on elementaarne koos rahvapsüholoogia manipulaatoritega. Miks see elementaarne info pole avalikult koolis selgeks tehtud mis jõud alkoholi me ühiskonda sisse pumpavad ?
Demokraatia pole mingi hea asi, ohtlikult manipuleeritud kamp senikaua kui pole haridust kes siin mida kuidas liigutab.
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214693988400091
Demokraatia pole mingi hea asi, ohtlikult manipuleeritud kamp senikaua kui pole haridust kes siin mida kuidas liigutab.
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214693988400091
7 April 2018 13:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sama asi oli RÕivasega, kohe kui õige südamega inimene millegi ligi saab kaudselt, oht on et hakkab õiget asja ajama kuna mõndadele müürivendadele ja kes teab mis ärihaidele eraviisiliselt juges varbapeale astuda patriootlikus õhinas.. ... ja siis rahvas ei oska äratajuda millised on masss manipulatsioonid kellegi vastu ja millised mass sogamised pättuste kaitseks...
Nu ku ivaid need keeletööriistad valmis saaks ja analüüsi tööriistad.. need toosid need asjad kergesti välja.. kuid leiuta ja leiuta 10 aastat kudias saada resursse selleks ,mida kogu riigile vaja.. ja mida siiani eriti ei tehta millegi pärast.. aarrgh.. raha taga rahva päästmine, nii utoooopiline
Nu ku ivaid need keeletööriistad valmis saaks ja analüüsi tööriistad.. need toosid need asjad kergesti välja.. kuid leiuta ja leiuta 10 aastat kudias saada resursse selleks ,mida kogu riigile vaja.. ja mida siiani eriti ei tehta millegi pärast.. aarrgh.. raha taga rahva päästmine, nii utoooopiline
7 April 2018 13:27
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..kuhu tarvis nenel, kelle eesmärk on kultuuride häving,
et saaks virtuaalseid riike juhtida , lipsud ees kõigil
ja siis neid värvinupukesi omavahel manipuleerida aegade lõpuni
et saaks virtuaalseid riike juhtida , lipsud ees kõigil
ja siis neid värvinupukesi omavahel manipuleerida aegade lõpuni
7 April 2018 13:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mingi halelihtsa alkohoolikute ja alkofirmade organiseeritud meie lippudega alkosõite mida siin telekas promoti... ja neid unustastati halvustada ajakirjaduse poolt juhuslikult, kuigi nad häbiväärse teoga tegid me maa pihta...
et ei tasu neil PÄRIS punastel, kes viinanisa küljes rippuda soovivad, ei tohi lasta neist ja neist värdjalikest kes loevad seda tulu meie riigikassasse arusaamata milline vereraha see on.. eoi tasiu lasta neil segada enda tööd
... üllatama pani kui vähe poliitikuid jugesid toetada neid asju, tugeva sõnaga.. see on see ERA-KONNA poliitika.. kus melega hoitakse kodumaised jõiud eraldi üksteisest, et siis välismaajõud saaks vallutada ja sedaduses üksteisega kempleviad kohalike massidega suunata sammsammult isnna kuhu tarvis
et ei tasu neil PÄRIS punastel, kes viinanisa küljes rippuda soovivad, ei tohi lasta neist ja neist värdjalikest kes loevad seda tulu meie riigikassasse arusaamata milline vereraha see on.. eoi tasiu lasta neil segada enda tööd
... üllatama pani kui vähe poliitikuid jugesid toetada neid asju, tugeva sõnaga.. see on see ERA-KONNA poliitika.. kus melega hoitakse kodumaised jõiud eraldi üksteisest, et siis välismaajõud saaks vallutada ja sedaduses üksteisega kempleviad kohalike massidega suunata sammsammult isnna kuhu tarvis
7 April 2018 13:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vähe neid SDE'si kes millegi märkimisväärse julge ja vajalikult praktilisega nii tugevalt silma paistaks ja siis .. ja siissee uudis nu on lugu!
https://www.facebook.com/jevgeni.ossinovski/posts/1988406997899445
https://www.facebook.com/jevgeni.ossinovski/posts/1988406997899445
7 April 2018 13:20
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See on Üks eesti parima tõlkega piibleid : )
7 April 2018 12:53
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Hästi Taavi Rõiva nägu kuidagi tundus alguses :P
7 April 2018 12:52
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ise spordimees
6 April 2018 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"annan kiusajale hambasse" kõlaks nagu mõistlikumalt
6 April 2018 23:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
suuremalt
6 April 2018 23:04
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Lihtsalt muusika bändid on ikka totrad asjad, kui inganes estraadilsied, seda enam totrad pigem
6 April 2018 23:04
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//noReason
6 April 2018 23:01
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No photoshop used
6 April 2018 18:38
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6 April 2018 16:28
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Karen Elliott House (Chair), Former Publisher, The Wall Street Journal; Former Senior Vice President, Dow Jones and Company, Inc.
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Mala Gaonkar, Portfolio Manager, Lone Pine Capital
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List updated March 2018
Karen Elliott House (Chair), Former Publisher, The Wall Street Journal; Former Senior Vice President, Dow Jones and Company, Inc.
Bonnie G. Hill (Vice Chair), President, B. Hill Enterprises, LLC
Barbara Barrett, Owner, Triple Creek Ranch; Former U.S. Ambassador to Finland
Carl Bildt, Former Prime Minister of Sweden; Former Minister for Foreign Affairs of Sweden
Richard J. Danzig, Senior Advisor, Center for a New American Security; Former U.S. Secretary of the Navy
Kenneth R. Feinberg, Founder and Managing Partner, The Law Offices of Kenneth R. Feinberg, PC
Mala Gaonkar, Portfolio Manager, Lone Pine Capital
Malcolm Gladwell, Journalist, The New Yorker
Michael Gould, Former Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Bloomingdale's
Pedro José Greer, Jr., M.D., Associate Dean for Community Engagement, Florida International University, Herbert Wertheim College of Medicine
Chuck Hagel, Former U.S. Secretary of Defense
Joel Z. Hyatt, Cofounder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer, Globality, Inc.; Cofounder and Former Chief Executive Officer, Current Media, LLC
Lionel C. Johnson, President, Pacific Pension & Investment Institute
Ann McLaughlin Korologos, Chairman Emeritus, The Aspen Institute; Former U.S. Secretary of Labor
Philip Lader, Senior Advisor, Morgan Stanley International; Former Chairman, WPP plc; Former U.S. Ambassador to the Court of St. James's
Michael E. Leiter, Partner, Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom, LLP; Former Director, U.S. National Counterterrorism Center
James B. Lovelace, Director, Capital Group Companies, Inc.; Senior Vice President, Capital Research Global Investors
Peter Lowy, Co-Chief Executive Officer, Westfield, LLC
Michael Lynton, Chairman, Snap Inc.
Soledad O'Brien, Journalist; Chief Executive Officer, Starfish Media Group
Gerald L. Parsky, Chairman, Aurora Capital Group
Mary E. Peters, Mary Peters Consulting Group, LLC; Former U.S. Secretary of Transportation
David L. Porges, Interim Chief Executive Officer and President, EQT Corporation
Donald B. Rice, Retired President and Chief Executive Officer, Agensys, Inc.; Former U.S. Secretary of the Air Force
Michael D. Rich, President and Chief Executive Officer, RAND Corporation
Leonard D. Schaeffer, Senior Advisor, TPG Capital; Founding Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, WellPoint
Trustees Emeriti
Harold Brown, Counselor and Trustee, Center for Strategic and International Studies; Former U.S. Secretary of Defense
Frank C. Carlucci, Former Chairman, The Carlyle Group; Former U.S. Secretary of Defense
6 April 2018 16:24
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Our Institutional Principles set forth RAND's core standards for ethical behavior. They are the foundation for our interactions with each other and with our clients, grantors, stakeholders, and the public. The Institutional Principles are straightforward:
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Our reputation—and ability to continue to fulfill our mission—can be preserved and expanded only if we live by our Institutional Principles, Code of Ethical Conduct, and policies even when it might be easier to take a shortcut or make an exception for the sake of convenience. We adhere to our principles out of a shared conviction that our actions should be guided by what is right, not out of concern that others are watching or fear that we might be sanctioned or punished.
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RAND's Institutional Principles
A Guide to Ethics at RAND
RAND's mission to help improve policy and decisionmaking through research and analysis is enabled through our core values of quality and objectivity and our unwavering commitment to the highest level of integrity and ethical behavior. It is through uncompromising focus on our core values and this commitment that we have earned our worldwide reputation for providing rigorous, objective, nonpartisan research and analysis.
Our Institutional Principles set forth RAND's core standards for ethical behavior. They are the foundation for our interactions with each other and with our clients, grantors, stakeholders, and the public. The Institutional Principles are straightforward:
We are dedicated to our core values: quality and objectivity.
We avoid both the appearance and reality of conflict of interest.
We are committed to integrity, respect, equal opportunity, and fairness in our relationships with one another, our clients, grantors, business associates, and the public.
We are conscientious stewards of financial resources, property, and sensitive information.
We respect and comply with legal and regulatory obligations.
It is not by accident that all of the Institutional Principles begin with “we”—they must be shared values if RAND is to succeed. RAND relies foremost on trust and the personal responsibility of every RAND Associate to apply the principles faithfully in their RAND activities, whether in the workplace or in any other setting in which they may be seen as representing RAND. In turn, RAND strives to provide a setting in which we can live by our ethical principles, be productive, take satisfaction from our contributions, grow professionally, and find camaraderie with our colleagues. RAND is also committed to providing systems and policies that support individuals in meeting standards for ethical behavior.
Our reputation—and ability to continue to fulfill our mission—can be preserved and expanded only if we live by our Institutional Principles, Code of Ethical Conduct, and policies even when it might be easier to take a shortcut or make an exception for the sake of convenience. We adhere to our principles out of a shared conviction that our actions should be guided by what is right, not out of concern that others are watching or fear that we might be sanctioned or punished.
A final thought: RAND's high standing and honored reputation in the research and policy communities are of inestimable value. They are essential in attracting the most important and interesting work and the most capable and creative colleagues to RAND. We—all RAND Associates—are the guardians of that reputation, our commitment to quality and objectivity, and the RAND name. Our individual and collective actions ultimately shape both the institution and its regard in the eyes of the clients, grantors, and public we serve.
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6 April 2018 16:23
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RAND's tradition of high-quality research and analysis, begun in our early years, flourished during one of the defining challenges of the United States in the 20th century: the West's dangerous competition with the Soviet Union in a nuclear age. In a time when emotions ran high, RAND remained committed to sober, objective research and to an approach to problem-solving that is founded on rigor and stripped of speculation.
Since our early emphasis on national security challenges, our work has become increasingly multidisciplinary and broad in scope. Our staff hail from more than 350 distinct academic disciplines and fields of study. We deliberately construct diverse project teams so that multiple perspectives are voiced.
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Our work is as transparent and open as possible. RAND's commitment to the public good means that we want our work to reach and be understood by as many people as possible, not just other experts and academics. All of our unrestricted reports are available for download from this site for free and from anywhere in the world.
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To be the world's most trusted source for policy ideas and analysis
RAND's mission is both simple and incredibly complex: We exist to help policymakers make decisions that are based on the best available information. This may not sound much different from the goals of other policy research institutions. But the difference is in the details. At RAND, our results are fueled by the best data, the strongest methods, and the brightest minds.
RAND's tradition of high-quality research and analysis, begun in our early years, flourished during one of the defining challenges of the United States in the 20th century: the West's dangerous competition with the Soviet Union in a nuclear age. In a time when emotions ran high, RAND remained committed to sober, objective research and to an approach to problem-solving that is founded on rigor and stripped of speculation.
Since our early emphasis on national security challenges, our work has become increasingly multidisciplinary and broad in scope. Our staff hail from more than 350 distinct academic disciplines and fields of study. We deliberately construct diverse project teams so that multiple perspectives are voiced.
Our research is rigorous and objective. Regardless of the research sponsor, our work is free of commercial, partisan, and ideological bias. Our research is peer-reviewed by experts inside and outside of RAND. This scrutiny is part of what makes us a trusted source of expertise and analysis.
Our work is as transparent and open as possible. RAND's commitment to the public good means that we want our work to reach and be understood by as many people as possible, not just other experts and academics. All of our unrestricted reports are available for download from this site for free and from anywhere in the world.
RAND's is an unusual model—and an ambitious one. In 2005, the Los Angeles Times described RAND as “arguably the grandest experiment ever undertaken to test the idea that even mankind's most pressing problems can be solved.” Our vision—and our intent—is to continue to tackle the world's most pressing challenges with the goal of making individuals, families, and communities throughout the world safer and more secure, healthier and more prosperous.
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6 April 2018 16:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Vana kuld: Linnar Viik ,:
Mingisuguste meisterhäkkeritega praeguse informatsiooni järgi tegemist pole. Kui on olemas arvutiprogramm, mis Business Wire’ist tõmbab välja teatud informatsiooni, siis sellest jääb väheks. Et selle infoga midagi korda saata, peab olema väärtpaberispetsialist. Võiks öelda, et poisid panid rehepappi.
See oli mõisa köis, mis oli jäetud natukene lohisema. Hakkajad vennad sikutasid sellest ja nägid, et köis hakkab tulema. Sikutati veel natukene ja saadi veel köit. Siis pandi vanker ette ja anti tuld. Aga köie otsa oli seotud lohemadu, kes ärkas üles ja sai väga tigedaks, et mingid pisikesed poisid tema köit ära sikutasid "
https://web.archive.org/web/20090818013436/https://www.postimees.ee/041105/esileht/siseuudised/182011.php
Mingisuguste meisterhäkkeritega praeguse informatsiooni järgi tegemist pole. Kui on olemas arvutiprogramm, mis Business Wire’ist tõmbab välja teatud informatsiooni, siis sellest jääb väheks. Et selle infoga midagi korda saata, peab olema väärtpaberispetsialist. Võiks öelda, et poisid panid rehepappi.
See oli mõisa köis, mis oli jäetud natukene lohisema. Hakkajad vennad sikutasid sellest ja nägid, et köis hakkab tulema. Sikutati veel natukene ja saadi veel köit. Siis pandi vanker ette ja anti tuld. Aga köie otsa oli seotud lohemadu, kes ärkas üles ja sai väga tigedaks, et mingid pisikesed poisid tema köit ära sikutasid "
https://web.archive.org/web/20090818013436/https://www.postimees.ee/041105/esileht/siseuudised/182011.php
https://web.archive.org/web/20090818013436/https://www.postimees.ee/041105/esileht/siseuudised/182011.php
6 April 2018 15:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
LHV on uus Sampo (Danske)
6 April 2018 11:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 April 2018 11:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
6 April 2018 11:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hääletonist ju kuulda kellega tegu
temast oleks võinud saada ju miskit normaalset, Eestlanegi ..nu eestlane päris mitte aga miks SELLISELE teeele pöörata?
Kiilakas ka veeltakkaotsa, ja selline kes selleüle ise ideolooogiliselt rahul on
temast oleks võinud saada ju miskit normaalset, Eestlanegi ..nu eestlane päris mitte aga miks SELLISELE teeele pöörata?
Kiilakas ka veeltakkaotsa, ja selline kes selleüle ise ideolooogiliselt rahul on
6 April 2018 08:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Minut 46 "ära räägi kommentaariumist"
nu jah
nu jah
6 April 2018 08:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tuleb meelde kui mul külas käis see soome austatud ettevõtja ja pereisa, kes ütles kudias ta selle joodikuparmu sõnaotseses mõttes kraavist üles korjas, ..
6 April 2018 08:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Minut 42
Hästi naljakas küll jah... "Jesus Christ"
http://www.pealinn.ee/koik-uudised/eesti-on-maailmas-riikide-onnelikkuse-poolest-63-kohal-n216254
Hästi naljakas küll jah... "Jesus Christ"
http://www.pealinn.ee/koik-uudised/eesti-on-maailmas-riikide-onnelikkuse-poolest-63-kohal-n216254
http://www.pealinn.ee/koik-uudised/eesti-on-maailmas-riikide-onnelikkuse-poolest-63-kohal-n216254
6 April 2018 08:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuulake juba minut 48:
Väga valus, võta milline iganes näide:
http://podcast.kuku.postimees.ee/podcast/jukuraadio-2018-04-06/
Väga valus, võta milline iganes näide:
http://podcast.kuku.postimees.ee/podcast/jukuraadio-2018-04-06/
http://podcast.kuku.postimees.ee/podcast/jukuraadio-2018-04-06/
6 April 2018 08:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mul läks 5 a selle saamiseks umbes
6 April 2018 08:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Marge Karin on ju ilus number!
6 April 2018 08:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Huvitav kuidas nii on, et seda klippi jagan, mitmes kanalis ja kohas kus palju inimesi,
Ja endiselt isegi peale laike jms, on vaatamisi 388 :D:D
Kuidas nad seda teevad... peas paar võimalust on pidevalt olemas .. kudi kuidas päriselt..
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/jutlus/A_Jugaste_2018_04_04%2009_49.html
Ja endiselt isegi peale laike jms, on vaatamisi 388 :D:D
Kuidas nad seda teevad... peas paar võimalust on pidevalt olemas .. kudi kuidas päriselt..
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/jutlus/A_Jugaste_2018_04_04%2009_49.html
6 April 2018 06:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just in case
http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/ http://www.csl.sri.com/users/neumann/neumann.html 67.225.133.110/~gbpprorg/
http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/ http://www.csl.sri.com/users/neumann/neumann.html 67.225.133.110/~gbpprorg/
http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/
5 April 2018 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nad väga kurjad.. ja siis veel
virisevad urja ära panemisest..
ise tevad seda jubedalt.. ja siis ... meelega.. meelega nad...
Artur Talvik kööögilauas
Enn
Herkel , raamat.. vabarkonna sünniloost... ..
Herkerile omaselt kiretult.. dokumendist..
kuid mis nende enda nimi..
Kuigi omaarust nalja saade,,, aga seda ei saa panna
Gert Oldar järgmine.. käib vhaepeal susitsu tegemas pidi mainima...
Jube ulme...
Tartu ja Tallinn
Vastamisi... Tarkade Klubi...
ooomauygaad oligi KUKU raadio... teads
Laupava kell 11
Tartu versus Tallinnn ...
KUKU RAADIO.. .
Ja see oli JUKU
raadio.. mida APOLLO toetas...
Sellinst asja koommunisitd lubasid eetirse et läbi selle maha teha asju ja jama panna mida mudu ei saaks panna.. ulme..
Seline sonavvabdus tuleb lopetada
virisevad urja ära panemisest..
ise tevad seda jubedalt.. ja siis ... meelega.. meelega nad...
Artur Talvik kööögilauas
Enn
Herkel , raamat.. vabarkonna sünniloost... ..
Herkerile omaselt kiretult.. dokumendist..
kuid mis nende enda nimi..
Kuigi omaarust nalja saade,,, aga seda ei saa panna
Gert Oldar järgmine.. käib vhaepeal susitsu tegemas pidi mainima...
Jube ulme...
Tartu ja Tallinn
Vastamisi... Tarkade Klubi...
ooomauygaad oligi KUKU raadio... teads
Laupava kell 11
Tartu versus Tallinnn ...
KUKU RAADIO.. .
Ja see oli JUKU
raadio.. mida APOLLO toetas...
Sellinst asja koommunisitd lubasid eetirse et läbi selle maha teha asju ja jama panna mida mudu ei saaks panna.. ulme..
Seline sonavvabdus tuleb lopetada
5 April 2018 20:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"eesti on 63 ndal kohal.. soomlased on 1" .. aga ei rõhuta millest nad räägivad..
ja millestsee utleb ja kuidas parendada.. ja maha tevead eestit kuid seda muuseas kuna eetriaja täis panemine on pohi teema.. wau sesee ikka ulme.,
Kes vnadumises d kokku lugeks ...
ja millestsee utleb ja kuidas parendada.. ja maha tevead eestit kuid seda muuseas kuna eetriaja täis panemine on pohi teema.. wau sesee ikka ulme.,
Kes vnadumises d kokku lugeks ...
5 April 2018 20:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ku isee saba kogu olemuseks
kus teame millal hea ja tark tekst kui nad vannuvad pidevalt ja ähivad ohivad sääl suva homo juttu ja plöma,
ja mitte ymberkantult tähenduses vaid otseselt..
kuualke seda, provn paar klippi lindistada ka
kus teame millal hea ja tark tekst kui nad vannuvad pidevalt ja ähivad ohivad sääl suva homo juttu ja plöma,
ja mitte ymberkantult tähenduses vaid otseselt..
kuualke seda, provn paar klippi lindistada ka
5 April 2018 20:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
FM ULE saja paar kriipsu..
Mul nii algeline thenoloogia kodus, ei saa teada mis kanal see on, kuku raadio sarnase nimega niemtasid ennastnad
omaarust nalja saade... see jube
Mul nii algeline thenoloogia kodus, ei saa teada mis kanal see on, kuku raadio sarnase nimega niemtasid ennastnad
omaarust nalja saade... see jube
5 April 2018 20:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
katolooniast nad ytlesid nadei hakak rääkima...
"kallid sõbrad" ütles...
siis mainis afpaasiat ja gruusiat...
siis ütles, et nadei sanaud linguistiliselt aru yskteisest.selleprast nad kallesid"
"reiting oli sitt" ytles nyyd..
raadios
//kataloonia temea oli komunistide myyrrlaste yelvoit nagu lip ka selgitab, teate eks kuuba masoonide lkommarite ja veel yehsama riingi pohjal thetud kellel sarnanae lipp
"kallid sõbrad" ütles...
siis mainis afpaasiat ja gruusiat...
siis ütles, et nadei sanaud linguistiliselt aru yskteisest.selleprast nad kallesid"
"reiting oli sitt" ytles nyyd..
raadios
//kataloonia temea oli komunistide myyrrlaste yelvoit nagu lip ka selgitab, teate eks kuuba masoonide lkommarite ja veel yehsama riingi pohjal thetud kellel sarnanae lipp
5 April 2018 20:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
üüd ütöesoid "nüüd võiks temast saadada.. aj sinust kompartei liige"
5 April 2018 20:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
india Ragnarid & Pioneerid kellega ta võitlema peab
5 April 2018 19:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sellised volts sulgemisi nagu thethi meleega väike petupankadel..
tehti seleks, et selle läbi
sama rünnakud sulgemaks LHV d kui nad seda siis saavad reaalselt sulgmeiseks kasutada.. ytlemaks, vordsustamaks pahaga mis loodi sleeks et saaks vordluse reaalsusesse tuua
tehti seleks, et selle läbi
sama rünnakud sulgemaks LHV d kui nad seda siis saavad reaalselt sulgmeiseks kasutada.. ytlemaks, vordsustamaks pahaga mis loodi sleeks et saaks vordluse reaalsusesse tuua
5 April 2018 19:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kas Lobitõõliste nimi saab olla:
Villiar Lobi
Mingi mis maailma parimad.. okey, hea lobitöö vb, kuid saab olla parem, kui ausalt mu ideed käsile võtame, siis on Maialma parim Kergesti
Villiar Lobi
Mingi mis maailma parimad.. okey, hea lobitöö vb, kuid saab olla parem, kui ausalt mu ideed käsile võtame, siis on Maialma parim Kergesti
5 April 2018 19:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
they only mess withj some Banks.. but if LHV, only , ONLY Estonia True Pank.. if other panks allow Him to Give You account, then they can, if Global Action Againtst Estonia that is initiated, by some large forces,
result, Law chnage, that
Banks Not allowed to give bankaccountin Estonia residency project and have to cansel accounts.... as Western World assumes, that Some criminals Maybe wantto Get Estoia Eresidency ... it should be ESTONIA real bisiness. not ... Estonia As Business for forces
__________
result, Law chnage, that
Banks Not allowed to give bankaccountin Estonia residency project and have to cansel accounts.... as Western World assumes, that Some criminals Maybe wantto Get Estoia Eresidency ... it should be ESTONIA real bisiness. not ... Estonia As Business for forces
__________
5 April 2018 19:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
/quit Thank You guys, PS: /can add me to add me Estonia Team Starter, mee roo jee (i more waluable then Bitcoin, more investable:p)
5 April 2018 19:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Superministeeriumi maja :P
5 April 2018 19:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
meie riigi kaitseks teeme seda, st
5 April 2018 19:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
saan lahendusi pakkuda kiirkaarditeenusest kuni kaitseni kuidas LHV saab, SAAB teha pakkumist E residentidele, OLENEMATA mis maailmapangad teevad, Meie riik kaitseks,
5 April 2018 19:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mu Panga konto number maailma parimast, erineb ainult kahe numbri vorra
5 April 2018 19:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aga tuus mees, Võin ka ENDA PANGA osas õelda...
Ja see Vene arst oli ka tuus heas motts eile, eetris
Ja see Vene arst oli ka tuus heas motts eile, eetris
5 April 2018 19:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või nu siis maksku slele eees
Mugavalt nüüd peavad pool hämana maagiat otsa rääkima, Kuidas ja miks õigustatud Eresidentidele käru keermaisega
et eestilt finants abi alt tommata ja potensiaalne tuleviku enda esile tostmine
sest see projekt rikuti ...
Mis selle yle maailma asjaga plaanis oli.,
see ülemaailma riigi projktist, tava väike Nishiks keertaske Välismaaliste silmas
Mugavalt nüüd peavad pool hämana maagiat otsa rääkima, Kuidas ja miks õigustatud Eresidentidele käru keermaisega
et eestilt finants abi alt tommata ja potensiaalne tuleviku enda esile tostmine
sest see projekt rikuti ...
Mis selle yle maailma asjaga plaanis oli.,
see ülemaailma riigi projktist, tava väike Nishiks keertaske Välismaaliste silmas
5 April 2018 19:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
selles peab aitama LHV d et ta kiiremale tasemelesaada,
Ka backrond Tsek peaks Teabemaeilt otse kiirelttulema kui tarvis ja meil isisutki ku ivaja neil seda osa kontrolldia kliendilt,
Ka backrond Tsek peaks Teabemaeilt otse kiirelttulema kui tarvis ja meil isisutki ku ivaja neil seda osa kontrolldia kliendilt,
5 April 2018 19:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
LHV'l muide nii ALGELSIED, ,mitte heas mottes,
Spsteem, et nad ei saa kohe momentaalselt ID kardi pohjal printida , 3Dprintidagi koos programmiga magnetil mida saab uuendad,a weebis ligipääsud ka uuendavad pärast, aga KAART kohe kättee.... Rääkimata sellest, et Keelduvad Riikliku psotiga saatmist, tähitud kirjana ei saada nad.. .vb sellest.. et sajalasem oleks
Spsteem, et nad ei saa kohe momentaalselt ID kardi pohjal printida , 3Dprintidagi koos programmiga magnetil mida saab uuendad,a weebis ligipääsud ka uuendavad pärast, aga KAART kohe kättee.... Rääkimata sellest, et Keelduvad Riikliku psotiga saatmist, tähitud kirjana ei saada nad.. .vb sellest.. et sajalasem oleks
5 April 2018 19:19
Margus Meigo commented on Conscious Dimensions's photo.
Relevant to here:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377
5 April 2018 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kui sellist asja ei saada peatatud, et Eesti Ema naba peale seda asja ...
sellel nii suur list asju valesti et raske selgitada...
ja see tehnologia, peaks , kus iganes teevad, olema RING tööstlus wees, et selle vee mis nad kasutavad, puhastavad, ei lase mitte vette tagasi vaid kasutavad uuesti, see oleks odavam Loodusele (ecom igatpidi, ega vesi Jumalat tasuta tule..) ja on loogiline igat pidi... aga ei .. isegi seda ei suudeta märgata...
See vesi mis juba rikutud sobib neile endale paremini uuesti kasutuseks, võrrreldes seda tagasi loodusesse lastes... destileerigu ära kui vaja, ja pangu ringkasutusse, kaevaku ring paseinid selleks ,elementaarne..
kuid asi polegi selles, sellised ülburid kes nuga kõripeal hoides kõik nõrgad kohad kaardistanud ja ette maksnud kinni amentike ja neid ähvaravad privaatselt ja suruvad läbi neid asju...
*
sdest tuleb arusaada. .et kui maksumus ise Miljard.. siis mis selle taga tehakse..
sellel nii suur list asju valesti et raske selgitada...
ja see tehnologia, peaks , kus iganes teevad, olema RING tööstlus wees, et selle vee mis nad kasutavad, puhastavad, ei lase mitte vette tagasi vaid kasutavad uuesti, see oleks odavam Loodusele (ecom igatpidi, ega vesi Jumalat tasuta tule..) ja on loogiline igat pidi... aga ei .. isegi seda ei suudeta märgata...
See vesi mis juba rikutud sobib neile endale paremini uuesti kasutuseks, võrrreldes seda tagasi loodusesse lastes... destileerigu ära kui vaja, ja pangu ringkasutusse, kaevaku ring paseinid selleks ,elementaarne..
kuid asi polegi selles, sellised ülburid kes nuga kõripeal hoides kõik nõrgad kohad kaardistanud ja ette maksnud kinni amentike ja neid ähvaravad privaatselt ja suruvad läbi neid asju...
*
sdest tuleb arusaada. .et kui maksumus ise Miljard.. siis mis selle taga tehakse..
5 April 2018 18:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
viamselt vist ei saada aru mis ime see on, et ME üks planeedi ainukestest inimestest kes sellisena siin alles jäänud
5 April 2018 18:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui vaid oskaksin keelde panna seda mis toimub kuid need kes targemad oskavad kuid neid .. kus nad on, miks neid pole raadiotes, teles kuulda,
see jääb mulje nagu ei saadaks aru mis toimub
see mitmetasemeline eesti vaimu ja hinge likvideeirmine, tehas + railbaldik ja mesamajandus.. see peaks lopu peale tegema meie rahva olemusele
ja siis veel teiselpoolt tehakse katastroof kui vaja selle nafta toruga , kuigi sõjaliselt see juba niigi.. oeh..
see jääb mulje nagu ei saadaks aru mis toimub
see mitmetasemeline eesti vaimu ja hinge likvideeirmine, tehas + railbaldik ja mesamajandus.. see peaks lopu peale tegema meie rahva olemusele
ja siis veel teiselpoolt tehakse katastroof kui vaja selle nafta toruga , kuigi sõjaliselt see juba niigi.. oeh..
5 April 2018 18:12
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Ja siis veel...
Kui räägid seda juttu mida see mees,
ja kui sul pole miljardilisi firmasi mis valitsusel jalga all hoiavad ja NASAle tehnoloogiat pakuvad.. siis peetakse sind hariduseta hulluks kes tuleks kohe kinni ravile saata
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377/
... kui aga sul on need asjad, ja siis austusväärse reporteriga, austusväärsemas saates, austusväärsest riigis (Kanaada) .. seda austusväärselt väljendad, et nii on.. siis lihtsalt.. seda unustatakse tlukas mainida, kuna palju muud uudist..
Kui räägid seda juttu mida see mees,
ja kui sul pole miljardilisi firmasi mis valitsusel jalga all hoiavad ja NASAle tehnoloogiat pakuvad.. siis peetakse sind hariduseta hulluks kes tuleks kohe kinni ravile saata
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377/
... kui aga sul on need asjad, ja siis austusväärse reporteriga, austusväärsemas saates, austusväärsest riigis (Kanaada) .. seda austusväärselt väljendad, et nii on.. siis lihtsalt.. seda unustatakse tlukas mainida, kuna palju muud uudist..
5 April 2018 18:00
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Üks on puudu
5 April 2018 17:50
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
True that,
they would if they can
they would if they can
5 April 2018 17:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Liiga hea :;D
5 April 2018 17:48
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
hahahaahahahahahahahahahhahahhaha (Y) /Y) (Y) :D:D:D
5 April 2018 17:48
Margus Meigo replied to Üllar Kamenik's comment.
Üllar Kamenik nu niipalju kui ma arusaanud, siis vast siin ongi kogu maailm, mis meil kunagi olema saab
5 April 2018 17:35
Margus Meigo replied to Üllar Kamenik's comment.
Üllar Kamenik Just, eks selleks tarkustaimed olegi
5 April 2018 17:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://67.225.133.110/~gbpprorg/2600/4014.html
He Just Stole MANIAC - kevin-on-demand.takedown.com 4014
Start: 1995 Feb 10 23:26:50
Total Run Time: 17:32
From NETCOM-rtp1.netcom.net to netcom15.netcom.com.
Kevin breaks into Motorola, and steals, with a fair bit of thrashing, the source code to Motorola's firewall product, MANIAC (Motorola Authenticated Internet Access). This is the call that GTE failed to trace.
Other MANIAC files
DOC/: This directory contains all of the MANIAC documents and template routing, access control, and DNS files.
External/: This directory conatins all the executables and system files necessary to install MANIAC on the external firewall.
LEGAL: This is the legal notice about MANIACTM.
LOG: This file contains a log of all the enhancements, bugs, and fixes made to MANIAC, along with the date.
Make.def: This file is used to set the global definitions within MANIAC.
Makefile: This is the top level make file for MANIAC.
VERSION: This file indicates the version level of the MANIAC code.
spsgate# telnet csn.org 3111
csn.org: unknown host
telnet> open 128.138.213.20 3111
telnet: connect: Connection refused
telnet> open 128.138.213.21.
128.138.213.21.: unknown host
telnet> open 128.138.213.21 3111
Trying 128.138.213.21 ...
Connected to 128.138.213.21.
Escape character is '^]'.
nm
nnm^U
^]
test1> quirt
?Invalid command
test1> quit
Connection closed.
$ /usr/etc/nslookup
Default Server: netcom15.NETCOM.COM
Address: 192.100.81.128
> escape.com
Server: netcom15.NETCOM.COM
Address: 192.100.81.128
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: escape.com
Address: 198.6.71.10
> ^D
$ et
et: not found
$ ts
ts: not found
$ test1
test1> open spsgate.sps.mot.com
Trying 192.70.231.1 ...
Connected to spsgate.sps.mot.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
^]
test1> quit
Connection closed.
$ test1
test1> open 192.70.231.1 3111
Trying 192.70.231.1 ...
Connected to 192.70.231.1.
Escape character is '^]'.
nm
SunOS UNIX (spsgate)
spsgate# cd /local
spsgate# ftp
ftp> open 198.6.71.10
Connected to 198.6.71.10.
220 escape.com FTP server (SunOS 4.1) ready.
Name (198.6.71.10:root): marty
331 Password required for marty.
Password: oki,900
230 User marty logged in.
ftp> bin
200 Type set to I.
ftp> mput man*
mput maniac? n
mput maniac1.3.4.tar.Z? y
200 PORT command successful.
150 Binary data connection for maniac1.3.4.tar.Z (192.70.231.1,2859).
netout: Broken pipe
421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
local: maniac1.3.4.tar.Z remote: maniac1.3.4.tar.Z
1351680 bytes sent in 2.7e+02 seconds (4.8 Kbytes/s)
ftp> open 198.6.71.10
Connected to 198.6.71.10.
220 escape.com FTP server (SunOS 4.1) ready.
Name (198.6.71.10:root): jsz
331 Password required for jsz.
Password: j00bad
230 User jsz logged in.
ftp> cd marty
250 CWD command successful.
ftp> bin
200 Type set to I.
ftp> mput man*
mput maniac? n
mput maniac1.3.4.tar.Z? y
200 PORT command successful.
150 Binary data connection for maniac1.3.4.tar.Z (192.70.231.1,2895).
nary Transfer complete.
local: maniac1.3.4.tar.Z remote: maniac1.3.4.tar.Z
1845983 bytes sent in 3e+02 seconds (6.1 Kbytes/s)
ftp> quit
221 Goodbye.
spsgate# rm *.tar.Z
spsgate# ls
backup lib maniac newsbin vin
bin lost+found news var wied
spsgate# ls vin
.cshrc
spsgate# ls wied
.cshrc .rnsoft interman out rn
.login 1m lib passwd typescript
.newsrc a.c netman pwrx_tarfile wscrawl
.oldnewsrc bin.sun4X nslookup readme xmelt
spsgate# ls -tlas wied
total 4383
1 drwxr-xr-x 12 root 512 Feb 11 00:43 ..
1 drwxr-xr-x 5 wied 512 Feb 9 15:43 .
66 -rw-r--r-- 1 root 67346 Jan 25 09:16 out
1 -rw-r----- 1 wied 45 Jan 23 10:00 readme
1032 -rw------T 1 root 1048576 Jan 12 14:39 1m
264 -rwxr-x--x 1 wied 262144 Sep 9 15:42 interman
1 drwxr-xr-x 5 106 512 Sep 9 14:37 netman
80 -rw-r----- 1 wied 81920 Feb 15 1994 nslookup
1 -rw-r--r-- 1 wied 267 Feb 4 1994 typescript
0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root 0 Nov 11 1993 .cshrc
0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root 0 Nov 11 1993 passwd
2 -rw-r----- 1 wied 1511 Oct 20 1993 a.c
24 -rwxr-x--x 1 wied 24576 Oct 20 1993 xmelt
1 drwxr-xr-x 2 13614 512 Oct 19 1993 bin.sun4X
1760 -rwxr-x--x 1 wied 1794048 Jun 4 1993 wscrawl
928 -rwxr-x--x 1 wied 942080 Apr 28 1993 pwrx_tarfile
1 drwxr-xr-x 2 13614 512 Mar 23 1993 lib
1 -rw-r--r-- 1 wied 673 Feb 19 1993 .newsrc
1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root 178 Feb 11 1993 .rnsoft
1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root 29 Feb 11 1993 .login
1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root 541 Feb 11 1993 .oldnewsrc
216 -rwxr-x--x 1 wied 212992 Feb 11 1993 rn
spsgate# cd maniac
spsgate# ls -tla | head
total 4498
drwxr-xr-x 12 root 512 Feb 11 00:43 ..
-rwxr-x--x 1 wied 315 Feb 9 15:56 routes
drwxr-xr-x 13 106 1536 Feb 9 15:54 MANIAC1.3.4
drwxr-xr-x 5 root 512 Feb 9 15:44 .
-rw-r----- 1 wied 4227072 Feb 9 15:43 maniac1.3.4.tar
-rwxr-x--x 1 wied 913 Feb 9 10:56 access
drwxr-xr-x 2 root 512 Oct 18 10:12 spool
-rwxr-x--x 1 root 73728 Jul 8 1994 in.telnetbd
-rwxrwxr-x 1 root 106496 May 13 1994 in.ftpd
spsgate# cat access
#
# Access Control List for MANIAC - Motorola Authenicated Internet Access.
#
# EXTERNAL FIREWALL ACCESS CONTROL LIST
#
# Let only internal firewall have access to Internet machines.
access-list 1 deny 192.5.251.200 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 tcp/70
access-list 1 deny 192.5.251.200 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 tcp/80
access-list 1 deny 192.5.251.200 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 tcp/151
access-list 1 deny 192.5.251.200 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 tcp/210
access-list 1 permit 192.5.251.200 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 tcp/all
access-list 1 permit 192.111.232.1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 tcp/all
access-list 1 permit 192.5.251.101 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 tcp/all
#*****************************************************************************
# DO NOT MODIFY ANYTHING ABOVE THIS LINE
#*****************************************************************************
spsgate#
He Just Stole MANIAC - kevin-on-demand.takedown.com 4014
Start: 1995 Feb 10 23:26:50
Total Run Time: 17:32
From NETCOM-rtp1.netcom.net to netcom15.netcom.com.
Kevin breaks into Motorola, and steals, with a fair bit of thrashing, the source code to Motorola's firewall product, MANIAC (Motorola Authenticated Internet Access). This is the call that GTE failed to trace.
Other MANIAC files
DOC/: This directory contains all of the MANIAC documents and template routing, access control, and DNS files.
External/: This directory conatins all the executables and system files necessary to install MANIAC on the external firewall.
LEGAL: This is the legal notice about MANIACTM.
LOG: This file contains a log of all the enhancements, bugs, and fixes made to MANIAC, along with the date.
Make.def: This file is used to set the global definitions within MANIAC.
Makefile: This is the top level make file for MANIAC.
VERSION: This file indicates the version level of the MANIAC code.
spsgate# telnet csn.org 3111
csn.org: unknown host
telnet> open 128.138.213.20 3111
telnet: connect: Connection refused
telnet> open 128.138.213.21.
128.138.213.21.: unknown host
telnet> open 128.138.213.21 3111
Trying 128.138.213.21 ...
Connected to 128.138.213.21.
Escape character is '^]'.
nm
nnm^U
^]
test1> quirt
?Invalid command
test1> quit
Connection closed.
$ /usr/etc/nslookup
Default Server: netcom15.NETCOM.COM
Address: 192.100.81.128
> escape.com
Server: netcom15.NETCOM.COM
Address: 192.100.81.128
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: escape.com
Address: 198.6.71.10
> ^D
$ et
et: not found
$ ts
ts: not found
$ test1
test1> open spsgate.sps.mot.com
Trying 192.70.231.1 ...
Connected to spsgate.sps.mot.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
^]
test1> quit
Connection closed.
$ test1
test1> open 192.70.231.1 3111
Trying 192.70.231.1 ...
Connected to 192.70.231.1.
Escape character is '^]'.
nm
SunOS UNIX (spsgate)
spsgate# cd /local
spsgate# ftp
ftp> open 198.6.71.10
Connected to 198.6.71.10.
220 escape.com FTP server (SunOS 4.1) ready.
Name (198.6.71.10:root): marty
331 Password required for marty.
Password: oki,900
230 User marty logged in.
ftp> bin
200 Type set to I.
ftp> mput man*
mput maniac? n
mput maniac1.3.4.tar.Z? y
200 PORT command successful.
150 Binary data connection for maniac1.3.4.tar.Z (192.70.231.1,2859).
netout: Broken pipe
421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
local: maniac1.3.4.tar.Z remote: maniac1.3.4.tar.Z
1351680 bytes sent in 2.7e+02 seconds (4.8 Kbytes/s)
ftp> open 198.6.71.10
Connected to 198.6.71.10.
220 escape.com FTP server (SunOS 4.1) ready.
Name (198.6.71.10:root): jsz
331 Password required for jsz.
Password: j00bad
230 User jsz logged in.
ftp> cd marty
250 CWD command successful.
ftp> bin
200 Type set to I.
ftp> mput man*
mput maniac? n
mput maniac1.3.4.tar.Z? y
200 PORT command successful.
150 Binary data connection for maniac1.3.4.tar.Z (192.70.231.1,2895).
nary Transfer complete.
local: maniac1.3.4.tar.Z remote: maniac1.3.4.tar.Z
1845983 bytes sent in 3e+02 seconds (6.1 Kbytes/s)
ftp> quit
221 Goodbye.
spsgate# rm *.tar.Z
spsgate# ls
backup lib maniac newsbin vin
bin lost+found news var wied
spsgate# ls vin
.cshrc
spsgate# ls wied
.cshrc .rnsoft interman out rn
.login 1m lib passwd typescript
.newsrc a.c netman pwrx_tarfile wscrawl
.oldnewsrc bin.sun4X nslookup readme xmelt
spsgate# ls -tlas wied
total 4383
1 drwxr-xr-x 12 root 512 Feb 11 00:43 ..
1 drwxr-xr-x 5 wied 512 Feb 9 15:43 .
66 -rw-r--r-- 1 root 67346 Jan 25 09:16 out
1 -rw-r----- 1 wied 45 Jan 23 10:00 readme
1032 -rw------T 1 root 1048576 Jan 12 14:39 1m
264 -rwxr-x--x 1 wied 262144 Sep 9 15:42 interman
1 drwxr-xr-x 5 106 512 Sep 9 14:37 netman
80 -rw-r----- 1 wied 81920 Feb 15 1994 nslookup
1 -rw-r--r-- 1 wied 267 Feb 4 1994 typescript
0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root 0 Nov 11 1993 .cshrc
0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root 0 Nov 11 1993 passwd
2 -rw-r----- 1 wied 1511 Oct 20 1993 a.c
24 -rwxr-x--x 1 wied 24576 Oct 20 1993 xmelt
1 drwxr-xr-x 2 13614 512 Oct 19 1993 bin.sun4X
1760 -rwxr-x--x 1 wied 1794048 Jun 4 1993 wscrawl
928 -rwxr-x--x 1 wied 942080 Apr 28 1993 pwrx_tarfile
1 drwxr-xr-x 2 13614 512 Mar 23 1993 lib
1 -rw-r--r-- 1 wied 673 Feb 19 1993 .newsrc
1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root 178 Feb 11 1993 .rnsoft
1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root 29 Feb 11 1993 .login
1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root 541 Feb 11 1993 .oldnewsrc
216 -rwxr-x--x 1 wied 212992 Feb 11 1993 rn
spsgate# cd maniac
spsgate# ls -tla | head
total 4498
drwxr-xr-x 12 root 512 Feb 11 00:43 ..
-rwxr-x--x 1 wied 315 Feb 9 15:56 routes
drwxr-xr-x 13 106 1536 Feb 9 15:54 MANIAC1.3.4
drwxr-xr-x 5 root 512 Feb 9 15:44 .
-rw-r----- 1 wied 4227072 Feb 9 15:43 maniac1.3.4.tar
-rwxr-x--x 1 wied 913 Feb 9 10:56 access
drwxr-xr-x 2 root 512 Oct 18 10:12 spool
-rwxr-x--x 1 root 73728 Jul 8 1994 in.telnetbd
-rwxrwxr-x 1 root 106496 May 13 1994 in.ftpd
spsgate# cat access
#
# Access Control List for MANIAC - Motorola Authenicated Internet Access.
#
# EXTERNAL FIREWALL ACCESS CONTROL LIST
#
# Let only internal firewall have access to Internet machines.
access-list 1 deny 192.5.251.200 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 tcp/70
access-list 1 deny 192.5.251.200 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 tcp/80
access-list 1 deny 192.5.251.200 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 tcp/151
access-list 1 deny 192.5.251.200 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 tcp/210
access-list 1 permit 192.5.251.200 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 tcp/all
access-list 1 permit 192.111.232.1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 tcp/all
access-list 1 permit 192.5.251.101 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 tcp/all
#*****************************************************************************
# DO NOT MODIFY ANYTHING ABOVE THIS LINE
#*****************************************************************************
spsgate#
5 April 2018 15:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In the beginning, there was ARPA, and it was Good, well, for the beginning that is.
ACM Council Resolution of 8 October 1984
Peter G. Neumann <Neumann@SRI-CSLA.ARPA>
Following are excerpts from ACM President Adele Goldberg's letter in the
Communications of the ACM, February 1985 (pp. 131-133).
On this day [8 October 1984], the ACM Council passed an important
resolution. It begins:
Contrary to the myth that computer systems are infallible, in fact
computer systems can and do fail. Consequently, the reliability of
computer-based systems cannot be taken for granted. This reality
applies to all computer-based systems, but it is especially critical
for systems whose failure would result in extreme risk to the public.
Increasingly, human lives depend upon the reliable operation of
systems such as air traffic and high-speed ground transportation
control systems, military weapons delivery and defense systems, and
health care delivery and diagnostic systems.
The second part of the resolution includes a list of technical questions
that should be answered about each computer system. This part states that:
While it is not possible to eliminate computer-based systems failure
entirely, we believe that it is possible to reduce risks to the public
to reasonable levels. To do so, system developers must better
recognize and address the issues of reliability. The public has the
right to require that systems are installed only after proper steps
have been taken to assure reasonable levels of reliability.
The issues and questions concerning reliability that must be addressed
include:
1. What risks and questions concerning reliability are involved when
the computer system fails?
2. What is the reasonable and practical level of reliability to
require of the system, and does the system meet this level?
3. What techniques were used to estimate and verify the level of
reliability?
4. Were the estimators and verifiers independent of each other
and of those with vested interests in the system?
Adele's letter goes on to motivate the ACM's authorization of a forum on
risks to the public in the use of computer systems, of which this is an
on-line manifestation. As you can see, I believe that the charter must be
broader than just reliability, including as appropriate other critical
requirements such as fault tolerance, security, privacy, integrity,
guaranteed service, human safety, and even world survival (in sort of
increasing order of globality). There is also an important but probably
sharply delimited role for design verification (such as has been carried out
in the multilevel-security community in demonstrating that formal
specifications are consistent with formal requirements) and even code
verification (proving consistency of code and specifications), although
formal verification technologies seem not suited to mammoth systems but only
to selected critical components -- assuming that those components can be
isolated (which is the operative assumption in the case of security kernels
and trusted computing bases). For example, see the VERkshop III proceedings
noted above. PGN
https://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/1/1#subj2
ACM Council Resolution of 8 October 1984
Peter G. Neumann <Neumann@SRI-CSLA.ARPA>
Following are excerpts from ACM President Adele Goldberg's letter in the
Communications of the ACM, February 1985 (pp. 131-133).
On this day [8 October 1984], the ACM Council passed an important
resolution. It begins:
Contrary to the myth that computer systems are infallible, in fact
computer systems can and do fail. Consequently, the reliability of
computer-based systems cannot be taken for granted. This reality
applies to all computer-based systems, but it is especially critical
for systems whose failure would result in extreme risk to the public.
Increasingly, human lives depend upon the reliable operation of
systems such as air traffic and high-speed ground transportation
control systems, military weapons delivery and defense systems, and
health care delivery and diagnostic systems.
The second part of the resolution includes a list of technical questions
that should be answered about each computer system. This part states that:
While it is not possible to eliminate computer-based systems failure
entirely, we believe that it is possible to reduce risks to the public
to reasonable levels. To do so, system developers must better
recognize and address the issues of reliability. The public has the
right to require that systems are installed only after proper steps
have been taken to assure reasonable levels of reliability.
The issues and questions concerning reliability that must be addressed
include:
1. What risks and questions concerning reliability are involved when
the computer system fails?
2. What is the reasonable and practical level of reliability to
require of the system, and does the system meet this level?
3. What techniques were used to estimate and verify the level of
reliability?
4. Were the estimators and verifiers independent of each other
and of those with vested interests in the system?
Adele's letter goes on to motivate the ACM's authorization of a forum on
risks to the public in the use of computer systems, of which this is an
on-line manifestation. As you can see, I believe that the charter must be
broader than just reliability, including as appropriate other critical
requirements such as fault tolerance, security, privacy, integrity,
guaranteed service, human safety, and even world survival (in sort of
increasing order of globality). There is also an important but probably
sharply delimited role for design verification (such as has been carried out
in the multilevel-security community in demonstrating that formal
specifications are consistent with formal requirements) and even code
verification (proving consistency of code and specifications), although
formal verification technologies seem not suited to mammoth systems but only
to selected critical components -- assuming that those components can be
isolated (which is the operative assumption in the case of security kernels
and trusted computing bases). For example, see the VERkshop III proceedings
noted above. PGN
https://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/1/1#subj2
5 April 2018 14:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" ISOC Symposium on Network and Distributed System Security
Dan Nessett <nessett@ocfmail.ocf.llnl.gov>
Mon, 20 Dec 1993 11:29:21 -0800
.:.
Inter-LAN Security and Trusted Routers, Pal Hoff, Norwegian Telecom
Research, Norway
Trusted to Untrusted Network Connectivity: Motorola Authenticated
Internet Access -- MANIAC(TM), Bill Wied, Motorola, USA
BAfirewall: A Modern Firewall Design, Ravi Ganesan, Bell Atlantic, USA
A Network Perimeter With Secure External Access, Frederick Avolio and
Marcus Ranum, Trusted Information Systems, USA
---------
Forum on Risks to the Public in Computers and Related Systems
ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy, Peter G. Neumann, moderator
Volume 15 Issue 35
Weds 22 December 1993
https://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/15/35
Dan Nessett <nessett@ocfmail.ocf.llnl.gov>
Mon, 20 Dec 1993 11:29:21 -0800
.:.
Inter-LAN Security and Trusted Routers, Pal Hoff, Norwegian Telecom
Research, Norway
Trusted to Untrusted Network Connectivity: Motorola Authenticated
Internet Access -- MANIAC(TM), Bill Wied, Motorola, USA
BAfirewall: A Modern Firewall Design, Ravi Ganesan, Bell Atlantic, USA
A Network Perimeter With Secure External Access, Frederick Avolio and
Marcus Ranum, Trusted Information Systems, USA
---------
Forum on Risks to the Public in Computers and Related Systems
ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy, Peter G. Neumann, moderator
Volume 15 Issue 35
Weds 22 December 1993
https://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/15/35
5 April 2018 14:41
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek J's comment.
Nii on
See mul jah, mõte oligi selle pika eneseusutluse peale
See mul jah, mõte oligi selle pika eneseusutluse peale
5 April 2018 10:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
muidugi veel olemas vanakooli Legendid.. kes juba 80'ndatel, 90ndatel me suguseid inspireeris enda üksteiseotsa laotud arvutikastide ja distrodege , reprodega
5 April 2018 08:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
We will be back... in future, before the past
4 April 2018 22:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
More links:
http://www.medherb.com/ETHNOBOT.HTM
http://www.medherb.com/ETHNOBOT.HTM
http://www.medherb.com/ETHNOBOT.HTM
4 April 2018 22:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
People calculate measurements of space but unable to understand hallucinogenes:
"Hallucinations and other effects of hallucinogens are however very complicated experiences. They are not simply a part of a cause and effect system in the brain, where hallucinogenic drugs act on serotonin and cause hallucinations. Instead, hallucinogenic drugs act initially on the serotonin system, which sends into motion, a pattern of complex action potentials and activity. Other neurotransmitters may be involved in these activities as well. The effects that inputs and outputs have on each other in this system as well as the pattern of action potentials mediated by hallucinogenic drugs help to cause many of the complex changes that allow hallucinations to happen. (B.L. Jacobs, "How Hallucinogenic Drugs Work") Scientists continue to do research to determine the exact effects that hallucinogens have on the serotonin receptors and to answer any questions that they cannot yet answer.
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1880
"Hallucinations and other effects of hallucinogens are however very complicated experiences. They are not simply a part of a cause and effect system in the brain, where hallucinogenic drugs act on serotonin and cause hallucinations. Instead, hallucinogenic drugs act initially on the serotonin system, which sends into motion, a pattern of complex action potentials and activity. Other neurotransmitters may be involved in these activities as well. The effects that inputs and outputs have on each other in this system as well as the pattern of action potentials mediated by hallucinogenic drugs help to cause many of the complex changes that allow hallucinations to happen. (B.L. Jacobs, "How Hallucinogenic Drugs Work") Scientists continue to do research to determine the exact effects that hallucinogens have on the serotonin receptors and to answer any questions that they cannot yet answer.
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1880
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1880
4 April 2018 22:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Fantastilisi linke:
https://theherbalist.worldsecuresystems.com/links
https://theherbalist.worldsecuresystems.com/links
https://theherbalist.worldsecuresystems.com/links
4 April 2018 21:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.
http://naturaldatabase.therapeuticresearch.com
http://naturaldatabase.therapeuticresearch.com
http://naturaldatabase.therapeuticresearch.com/
4 April 2018 21:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
why am talking about these topic again today?
Anyway, reason 2:
Anyway, reason 2:
4 April 2018 17:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Okey, that was reason one, so reason 2:
(not say that for now, but also, ... will mention also my views how Adolf was in project to save Jewish eventually in God eye.. but it is to harsh woonds there to go in to it.. )
(not say that for now, but also, ... will mention also my views how Adolf was in project to save Jewish eventually in God eye.. but it is to harsh woonds there to go in to it.. )
4 April 2018 17:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(to disrespect, make downfall of origial bad manliness, selfesteem)
4 April 2018 17:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so here we go,
kind of solved the issue of why some jews was evil :D
kind of solved the issue of why some jews was evil :D
4 April 2018 17:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as lenght to go there and supress it.. is way way longer, in linear, simple linear way even
4 April 2018 17:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i meant, better in evilness... as bad one in core is bad. .so their bad is not as bad as the bad that good makes
4 April 2018 17:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so the evil newer can feel supreme eventually in no level, as even just a people.. can be better, even in the core that one should be the epitome of wickedness then .. even these alians are beat in all levels, comapred what kind of lenght one needs to go FROM where (Good choosen one wityh all blessins to be someone who organizes how to make fake schools in future that would eliminate the understanding of proper hebrews , eventually , by Jewish them self.. .. .as there is so many schools now.. liek this... and .. the reason the language was allowed to learn. .and old hisotry by these mans in ties.. was for the really the reason to find a ways what to hide and what to screw.. what truths to screw.. away.. step by step.. kind of like back street boys song. or was it Ny Sync )
4 April 2018 17:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And we not talking about these "jews" who invented clever methods to eliminate God people from NKVD to ... whatever side one go from history.. you will meet the bearless Jews who do even more harm then fake priests have been done, but am guess, it takes a jew to beat a corrup priest in sinfulness level, .. and here we see again, perhaps them was just foir a reason to say to the truly evil and bad: hey, we are in all levels better, even being bad, if we want to..
4 April 2018 17:00
Margus Meigo replied to Üllar Kamenik's comment.
Üllar Kamenik vastavalt võimalustele... vastavalt võimalustele... mida inimesed pakuvad
4 April 2018 16:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and for proof:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Manis+Friedman
Rabbi Manis Friedman
Need i say more.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Manis+Friedman
Rabbi Manis Friedman
Need i say more.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Manis+Friedman
4 April 2018 16:42
Margus Meigo replied to Üllar Kamenik's comment.
Kuulame teda ja saame koos arukamaks, et teised mehed ka nii mõtlevad, nagu vanad eestlased, ilma õpikuta teadsid: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Manis+Friedman
Rabbi Manis Friedman
Rabbi Manis Friedman
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Manis+Friedman
4 April 2018 16:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Härga täis :p
4 April 2018 13:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu respekt ka Jüri osas, ma kujutasin palju mökumana teda ette inimesena, kuid Päris kõva räppar ja äss, võttis noori päris hästi vastu
Üleüldse faktide osas ma eip keskendu praegu aga eks see paraleel tekst, mida lahendati avalikult, oli hopis muu ja suurem konflikt,
ei saa see Keskerakond nööripidi kaelaümberseda EKRE t hoida midagi nagu plaanitud oli, oma lõukoeraks kasvata... kuid eks siin veel nurgataga andmiseks läheb idealistide ja vanakooli nahktagide vahel
Üleüldse faktide osas ma eip keskendu praegu aga eks see paraleel tekst, mida lahendati avalikult, oli hopis muu ja suurem konflikt,
ei saa see Keskerakond nööripidi kaelaümberseda EKRE t hoida midagi nagu plaanitud oli, oma lõukoeraks kasvata... kuid eks siin veel nurgataga andmiseks läheb idealistide ja vanakooli nahktagide vahel
4 April 2018 13:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Pole veel nii kõvat andmist EKRE ja Keskerakonna vahel näinud,
siin said vered selgeks vist, ja uued tuuled, huvitav, põnev
siin said vered selgeks vist, ja uued tuuled, huvitav, põnev
4 April 2018 13:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
// mu enda tuleviku koos-networked võrkude loogika, toimimise kirjeldus lihtsalt selle kribuga
4 April 2018 08:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oh näe, hoopis YT'i kontoris tulistamine seekord alustuseks..
Selliste teemade juurde soendamisel, ... õige ka jah, muidugi kohe ei saa suurte teemade peale minna .. tuleb alguses väiksemalt, et meeltes seonduks "on jah hullud kes korporatsioone ründavad"
Kuid eks vaatab mida veel tunnetab... millega mida ..mis millleni viib ja mis millleks
Selliste teemade juurde soendamisel, ... õige ka jah, muidugi kohe ei saa suurte teemade peale minna .. tuleb alguses väiksemalt, et meeltes seonduks "on jah hullud kes korporatsioone ründavad"
Kuid eks vaatab mida veel tunnetab... millega mida ..mis millleni viib ja mis millleks
4 April 2018 08:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 April 2018 20:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
https://twitter.com/EerikNKross/status/743560633229123584
https://twitter.com/EerikNKross/status/743560633229123584
3 April 2018 20:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and remeber:
// mõnikord kui Sa seda ära ei opi siis tuleb aeg kui internet otsa saab ja siis .... nu ku ineed voimule laseme , seletottu et piisavalt suur inimeseste hul polnud endale laadinud alla, et nad saaksid kohe taastada... aga kui nad kontatide inim ontatke niisures hulgas endal pole alvetanud ja kudias muud moodi ka saada ühendust, siis see saab anda strateegiaid juurde neile kes midagi hull proovida võivad,
rakekette palgata et F ile pelae soita hullusega vms
// mõnikord kui Sa seda ära ei opi siis tuleb aeg kui internet otsa saab ja siis .... nu ku ineed voimule laseme , seletottu et piisavalt suur inimeseste hul polnud endale laadinud alla, et nad saaksid kohe taastada... aga kui nad kontatide inim ontatke niisures hulgas endal pole alvetanud ja kudias muud moodi ka saada ühendust, siis see saab anda strateegiaid juurde neile kes midagi hull proovida võivad,
rakekette palgata et F ile pelae soita hullusega vms
3 April 2018 20:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
3 April 2018 19:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(oi kui ilus ja suur see lause on kui selginatud)
3 April 2018 19:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui võlad sees siis mõttegagi, mis sama peresisseselt ku imuud väed nagu inimompildis tervete Napolionidega.
3 April 2018 19:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nagu teeme kasvõi portaali, kus sissepääs on 100 000 euri ja kus mina ainukesena ja veel need kes soovivad, siiaavad maksta rohkem, ma ise peaks siis ..ajaliselt ei tohi liiteeria, sest ajalised lepingud surma võivad tähendada.. .
seega kui sul on katusemaks, siis alati motle kuidas saaks selle loplikult ette äramaksta mingi kogu keskmise hinnaga,
seda lsia pinget vaja sellistel aegadel kui mingi muu yhsikonna laine osas enamusel pole.. sis ei loe kui hea olekd ka pahemad head siis asuvad ikkagi linžima lähedasi
seega kui sul on katusemaks, siis alati motle kuidas saaks selle loplikult ette äramaksta mingi kogu keskmise hinnaga,
seda lsia pinget vaja sellistel aegadel kui mingi muu yhsikonna laine osas enamusel pole.. sis ei loe kui hea olekd ka pahemad head siis asuvad ikkagi linžima lähedasi
3 April 2018 19:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid kes olen ma siin pooli valimast, aga ma olen Ka tallinast, ja maksan heameelega kui mulle palju rohkem makstakse
3 April 2018 19:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
get it: KAPITALISMI päästmis lehekülg, aa polnud raha selleks, ....et rahasüsteemi alles hoida, seda nimetatakse irooniakliseks elukäiguks,
iroonia ise vist on kui tehakse midagi näidendina,
aga selles elukäigus jah palju head mida saab asjade paremaks muutmiseks kasutada... .aaaa... Nüüüd ma saan aru miks Kommunistid lõpppplaanina pealeraha pantvagis hoidmist selle vabakspäästmise eel selle pigem ründaks hävitusse
iroonia ise vist on kui tehakse midagi näidendina,
aga selles elukäigus jah palju head mida saab asjade paremaks muutmiseks kasutada... .aaaa... Nüüüd ma saan aru miks Kommunistid lõpppplaanina pealeraha pantvagis hoidmist selle vabakspäästmise eel selle pigem ründaks hävitusse
3 April 2018 19:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(ärist jutt)
3 April 2018 19:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kiireima kohe toimiva ja kiir edasi lenleva kergelt
3 April 2018 19:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
samamoodi töö toimub, kuid reaalajas rohkem projti valmisjärk saaabub
3 April 2018 19:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu näete, kui ma 5 päeva pole peale teinud või siis kui tehakse, koos ürtidega, siis
3 April 2018 19:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jua õppimise käigus peab platform olema seline mis täidaks eesmärki ja ka muud osad elavad pigem ja arenevad, võ iarengiuga kokkupuutes seotud mingi asja kasutamist selles osas ,teistest eraldi, et see arenguga ... mida arutada arendajatega soovid, või asjatudjatega
3 April 2018 19:24
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3 April 2018 19:23
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
3 April 2018 19:21
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Vahepeala:
Ilma ühegi pildi muudustesta saab inimse ekraan olla selline:
Ma usun, et saan praktilisema arvuti vaate Luua
Mis iganes paku töödest teed, kuid mainimine oli pigem selles et aken aknas, nagu see tuletab seda reaalsus kanaleid aga arvutis sedasi , elavad eraldi elavad arvutus , arvuti keskonnad eri maailmadega sedasi nende vahel vaheldumine oleks arvuti algmõõde
// oh seda sia motet pold palnnaniiväga, vaidseda järgmist jutu pointi : // kuigi avastasin nüüd, ka siin hea osa peal
Ilma ühegi pildi muudustesta saab inimse ekraan olla selline:
Ma usun, et saan praktilisema arvuti vaate Luua
Mis iganes paku töödest teed, kuid mainimine oli pigem selles et aken aknas, nagu see tuletab seda reaalsus kanaleid aga arvutis sedasi , elavad eraldi elavad arvutus , arvuti keskonnad eri maailmadega sedasi nende vahel vaheldumine oleks arvuti algmõõde
// oh seda sia motet pold palnnaniiväga, vaidseda järgmist jutu pointi : // kuigi avastasin nüüd, ka siin hea osa peal
3 April 2018 19:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kujutage ette, inimesed elavad sellises resuris, et neid tõmamtud netist seasi ära, et kõi kkes pole suutnud terasi koju osta, on ühekorraga sellest ilma, sest sedasi weebilehed toimivad kui 500 tykki korraga tõmmata ja need uued leiad, kus tead kelle omad need on või saavad kiirelt,
mis siis teed?
mis siis teed?
3 April 2018 19:03
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3 April 2018 19:02
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3 April 2018 19:01
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Võtan nüüd natuke kanepit üriditeega ja mõtlen, mida veel paremaks saab teha
3 April 2018 18:45
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Kuid kui meil Juma maailm korras oleks, need inimesed kes Juba vaimus pühas Jumalariigis elavad päästetuna, neile võib see tunduda testi kas labane või solvav, sest korras maailmas, isegi sellist nalja enam thea eip sobi
3 April 2018 18:43
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Meelis Vesi Minuarust ka oli see Jumalavastaste pihta tehtud iroonia, et õpetus, millised need petturid on, kes usklikute rüüüs sisse lippavad ja siis asuvad seda tegema... et kes need on kes J. osas sellist lugu räägivad.
3 April 2018 18:42
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Meelis Vesi nu ma kohe kndlasti ei soovitaks vaadata asju telekast mis magama panevad siis oleks see nagu meelelahutus eesmärgil millegi vaatamine, kuid Kristlased ikka ainult eneseharimiseks ja maailmaparanduseks telekat vaatavad, selletõttu et väärtuslikku leida, või vigasi leida mille osas palvetada.
Kid Sa nõustud ka, et tegelikult see klipp oli Jumalameelne, Jumalapoolne ja positiivne ?
Kid Sa nõustud ka, et tegelikult see klipp oli Jumalameelne, Jumalapoolne ja positiivne ?
3 April 2018 18:27
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Me ei peaks ainult maha tegema, vaid alati kui maha teeme siis anda ka meie uskumuse kohane suund selles osas mida meie arust teine tegema peaks, umbrohumahakiskumisest kasu ainult siis kui sinna asemele miskit muud istutame
3 April 2018 18:25
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Meelis Vesi Kuidas Sa seda teed siis ? Mulle tundub, et arvutitaga ka õhtuti Sa päris palju.
Kuid mul arvutitaga meeldib, saab teha midagi mis muudab maailma paremaks
Kuid mul arvutitaga meeldib, saab teha midagi mis muudab maailma paremaks
3 April 2018 18:23
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Meelis Vesi asuu, mul jäi juba mulje, et 7me päeva adventistide osas norisid kaudselt.
Kuid kus Sina laupäeva õhtu veedad enamasti ja vahest?
Kuid kus Sina laupäeva õhtu veedad enamasti ja vahest?
3 April 2018 18:19
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Veelkord ütlen, kui nad oleks mänginud PÄRIS usklikke ja siis pahasi asju teinud.. siis saame nuriseda,
kuid kui nad mängisid JUMALA vastast kes olid võltsid,
ja pätid, siis nad ju näitasid selgelt, kes on NEED kes on Jumalapuudulikud, seega video täiesti tõene ja aus
kuid kui nad mängisid JUMALA vastast kes olid võltsid,
ja pätid, siis nad ju näitasid selgelt, kes on NEED kes on Jumalapuudulikud, seega video täiesti tõene ja aus
3 April 2018 17:57
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Minuarust me peaksime seda meelega võtta, kui jumalat kiitvat versiooni, senikaua kui otseselt pahasuunaline pole saab seda vabalt teha.
Ma olen näinud pahasuunalisi asju, ma nende keskel elan ja neid ammu uurinud, tunneksin kergesti kui päris paha asjaga tegu oleks.
Tuleb arvestada mis ajastus me oleme ja mida vaja inimestel selgeks teha, mille eest neid kuidas kaitsta.
Olulisem on inimesi ohtlikute mustale teele viivate inimeste eest hoiatada..
ja inimloogika toimib sedasi, et kui ta näeb, et need kes pahad olid, et kui need piibli maha tegid, siis .. eesti päris tarkusega inimesed, saavad kergestiaru, et see mis nad maha tegid on vale mahategemine, .. ehk kui keegi tegi maha kodumaad ja siis kiitis kommunismi ja siis tegi paha paha siis ilmselge loogika on uuesti vaadata neid asju, mida paha maha tegi, et kas ja kuidas..
ümberpööratud psüholoogia, kuid eks ma pärisautoritega vaata seda asja, uurin, äärimsel kõige hullemal juhul nad samale tasemele proovisid seda panna, ... ja see ka ainuke moodus kuidas nad selle klipi eetirsse said, kuid välja tuli sedasi, et peale mõnda aega vaatamist, kui emotsion lahtub.. siis on arusaada tugevas jumalausus kergesti, et nad mahategid esoteerikat, maha tegid horoskoope ja kivikesemüüjaid ja hoiatasid kahtlaste laagrite eest.
Sest nad videos sidusid nad raha vargusega veel lisaks müügimehe pettusega.. nad ju ise lausa rahakotti panid käe.
Kui nad oleks PÄRIS uskliku videoklipis mänginud ja siis raha võtnud -.. või siis neisse kohtadesse kutsunud.. .ja siis neid asju öelnud.. ükskõik mida neistasjadest, SIIS , kudias Sa siis tunneksid ?
Vot.. tuleb ikka asju vaadata ka Jumala enda silmeläbi, enesekindlalt,
Mind täeisti imestama paneb, kas tõesti, esoteerikute pihta suunatud postiivne iroonia, kas to tõesti nii raskesti tajutav, või me harjunud järjepideva jamaga telekast ja siis eeldame kohe...
usu mind, seda tunnetust saab muuta.
Mina juba näen seda klippi positiivsena, vaata seda sellisena, et oled JUmala poolel ja vaata nii, et ETV on Jumalameelne,
ning tarkade inimeste poolt tehtud... nende inimeste üle naermiseks kes Jumalapuudulikud
Ma olen näinud pahasuunalisi asju, ma nende keskel elan ja neid ammu uurinud, tunneksin kergesti kui päris paha asjaga tegu oleks.
Tuleb arvestada mis ajastus me oleme ja mida vaja inimestel selgeks teha, mille eest neid kuidas kaitsta.
Olulisem on inimesi ohtlikute mustale teele viivate inimeste eest hoiatada..
ja inimloogika toimib sedasi, et kui ta näeb, et need kes pahad olid, et kui need piibli maha tegid, siis .. eesti päris tarkusega inimesed, saavad kergestiaru, et see mis nad maha tegid on vale mahategemine, .. ehk kui keegi tegi maha kodumaad ja siis kiitis kommunismi ja siis tegi paha paha siis ilmselge loogika on uuesti vaadata neid asju, mida paha maha tegi, et kas ja kuidas..
ümberpööratud psüholoogia, kuid eks ma pärisautoritega vaata seda asja, uurin, äärimsel kõige hullemal juhul nad samale tasemele proovisid seda panna, ... ja see ka ainuke moodus kuidas nad selle klipi eetirsse said, kuid välja tuli sedasi, et peale mõnda aega vaatamist, kui emotsion lahtub.. siis on arusaada tugevas jumalausus kergesti, et nad mahategid esoteerikat, maha tegid horoskoope ja kivikesemüüjaid ja hoiatasid kahtlaste laagrite eest.
Sest nad videos sidusid nad raha vargusega veel lisaks müügimehe pettusega.. nad ju ise lausa rahakotti panid käe.
Kui nad oleks PÄRIS uskliku videoklipis mänginud ja siis raha võtnud -.. või siis neisse kohtadesse kutsunud.. .ja siis neid asju öelnud.. ükskõik mida neistasjadest, SIIS , kudias Sa siis tunneksid ?
Vot.. tuleb ikka asju vaadata ka Jumala enda silmeläbi, enesekindlalt,
Mind täeisti imestama paneb, kas tõesti, esoteerikute pihta suunatud postiivne iroonia, kas to tõesti nii raskesti tajutav, või me harjunud järjepideva jamaga telekast ja siis eeldame kohe...
usu mind, seda tunnetust saab muuta.
Mina juba näen seda klippi positiivsena, vaata seda sellisena, et oled JUmala poolel ja vaata nii, et ETV on Jumalameelne,
ning tarkade inimeste poolt tehtud... nende inimeste üle naermiseks kes Jumalapuudulikud
3 April 2018 17:55
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Vabandust Meelis, ma ei saanud aru,
Kas Sa mõtlesid, et nad ei peaks teleka ees veetma aega või ?
Kas Sa mõtlesid, et nad ei peaks teleka ees veetma aega või ?
3 April 2018 17:42
Margus Meigo replied to Kadri Liisa's comment.
Kadri Liisa Meie kultuur on ülimitmetahuline ja huumoril veelgirohkem tahke,
tuleb aru saada mida kuidas ja millisena ainult saaks ekraanile sellistel aegadel ning ridadevahelt lugeda.
Kui nad PÄRISELT oleks tahtnud piibli osas pahasti midagi thea, siis selleks oleks Hoopis teised moodused olnud, ma suht hea vaimutunnetusega, eksin harva neis asjus kui kedagi/midagi heaks pean
tuleb aru saada mida kuidas ja millisena ainult saaks ekraanile sellistel aegadel ning ridadevahelt lugeda.
Kui nad PÄRISELT oleks tahtnud piibli osas pahasti midagi thea, siis selleks oleks Hoopis teised moodused olnud, ma suht hea vaimutunnetusega, eksin harva neis asjus kui kedagi/midagi heaks pean
3 April 2018 17:42
Margus Meigo replied to Kadri Liisa's comment.
Kadri Liisa minuarust see ainuke moodus kuidas Jumalameelseid ja Jumalasõna saada eetrisse,
klipi lõplik mõte oli ikkagi esoteerika mõnitamne ja hoiatamine nende eest, näitamaks, et nad "usurüüs"(milleks valiti meile ainukesed välismeedias tundud usurüüd kellega uksepeal kohtuda saame) ning, et usurüüs Sul usuvastased võivad sisse lipsata,
need kes on raha peal väljas ja teevad ise piiblit maha kui ebateaduslikku ja siis saadavad su otsejooneks ekstreem esoteerilistele teedele,
Isegi piiblina nad ühe parima tõlke olid valinud, see tumesinine piibel.
klipi lõplik mõte oli ikkagi esoteerika mõnitamne ja hoiatamine nende eest, näitamaks, et nad "usurüüs"(milleks valiti meile ainukesed välismeedias tundud usurüüd kellega uksepeal kohtuda saame) ning, et usurüüs Sul usuvastased võivad sisse lipsata,
need kes on raha peal väljas ja teevad ise piiblit maha kui ebateaduslikku ja siis saadavad su otsejooneks ekstreem esoteerilistele teedele,
Isegi piiblina nad ühe parima tõlke olid valinud, see tumesinine piibel.
3 April 2018 17:39
Margus Meigo replied to Ester Murrand's comment.
Ester Murrand Mulle Mormonid ja Jehoovakad väga meeldivad,
Kui nad lipsud maha jätavad siis on nende töö igatpidi siiram ja järjepidevam, reaalsem, JUmalale meelepärasem kui enamus kes ei julge sõna kuulutada.
Kipp muidugi tegelikult ei mõnitanud mitte usku, nüüdseks kui See jumalapoolt ümberpööratud.. vaid see on hoopis usupoolne klipp mis mõnitas ja hoiatas nende kurjadeeest kes proovivad piibli vastuolla.
Geniaalne minuarust.
Mis aga puutub kristlastesse, kes Mormonite ja Jehoovatunnistajate osas on kriitilised hoopis valedel põhjustel.. siis see paneb täiesti imestama sügavalt.
Ei tasu uskuda neid pahulugusi telekast, sest ma tean päris kindlalt, et ma siiani pole TÕDE veel Eesti meediast näinud psühedeelsete ainete osas,
ja veel mitmete muude asjade osas.. ja siis arvatakse,et nad lasevad nii aktiivsete JUmalasõna kandjate osas tõtt NATUKENEGI eetrisse?
Ühekorra ETV julges, riigi sünnipäeval, kui lihtsalt nad pidid tunnistama, mis moodi Jehooovatunnistajad üheks oluliseks jõuks olid meie riigi uuesti sünnis ja selle olemuse säilitamises,
nad üks vähestest kes ka kirjutusmasinat omasid ning seda aktiivselt meie kodumaakaitseks rakendasid.
Kui nad lipsud maha jätavad siis on nende töö igatpidi siiram ja järjepidevam, reaalsem, JUmalale meelepärasem kui enamus kes ei julge sõna kuulutada.
Kipp muidugi tegelikult ei mõnitanud mitte usku, nüüdseks kui See jumalapoolt ümberpööratud.. vaid see on hoopis usupoolne klipp mis mõnitas ja hoiatas nende kurjadeeest kes proovivad piibli vastuolla.
Geniaalne minuarust.
Mis aga puutub kristlastesse, kes Mormonite ja Jehoovatunnistajate osas on kriitilised hoopis valedel põhjustel.. siis see paneb täiesti imestama sügavalt.
Ei tasu uskuda neid pahulugusi telekast, sest ma tean päris kindlalt, et ma siiani pole TÕDE veel Eesti meediast näinud psühedeelsete ainete osas,
ja veel mitmete muude asjade osas.. ja siis arvatakse,et nad lasevad nii aktiivsete JUmalasõna kandjate osas tõtt NATUKENEGI eetrisse?
Ühekorra ETV julges, riigi sünnipäeval, kui lihtsalt nad pidid tunnistama, mis moodi Jehooovatunnistajad üheks oluliseks jõuks olid meie riigi uuesti sünnis ja selle olemuse säilitamises,
nad üks vähestest kes ka kirjutusmasinat omasid ning seda aktiivselt meie kodumaakaitseks rakendasid.
3 April 2018 17:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Taimetoidu sõbrad
kas on sedasi, et võrreldakse kuidagi valesi asju ja ... ehk kiudainete sisu on oluline neis meile .. või kuidas see asi oeaga on, paun oaspetsalistid antke teada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicia_fabahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicia_faba
3 April 2018 12:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Ja siin tõsisem võrdlus:
https://skipthepie.org/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/beans-pinto-immature-seeds-frozen-unprepared/compared-to/potatoes-french-fried-steak-fries-salt-added-in-processing-frozen-oven-heated/https://skipthepie.org/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/beans-pinto-immature-seeds-frozen-unprepared/compared-to/potatoes-french-fried-steak-fries-salt-added-in-processing-frozen-oven-heated/
3 April 2018 12:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Taimetoidu sõbrad
Siin algatus materiali ka:
http://www.veskimati.ee/veski-mati-opetab/oad/aeduba/http://www.veskimati.ee/veski-mati-opetab/oad/aeduba/
3 April 2018 12:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eesti riik kui uuesti vaaks saame lõplikumal,t peaks vaatama kuidas EAS i .. ku iEAS i sisu ei õnesti tagas ivõita siis kidas see aadress neilt tagas isaada ja selle sisu vääriliseks , riigile vääriliseks teha
domeeninimi estonia.ee
registreerija Ettevõtluse Arendamise Sihtasutus
Reg. no. 90006006 (EE)
registreeritud 04.07.2010 04:05
aegub 25.11.2020
domeeninimi estonia.ee
registreerija Ettevõtluse Arendamise Sihtasutus
Reg. no. 90006006 (EE)
registreeritud 04.07.2010 04:05
aegub 25.11.2020
3 April 2018 11:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Täiesti valus värk ikka, alguses ku isee väljaanti.. mõtesin et veel hoian tagasi.. annan aega. .et areneb.. ja nüüd.. areng on..jah..
https://brand.estonia.ee/design/principles/
Lehekoodimeister, okey, sellepiires mis tal teha kästi, tegi vast head tööd ja mõned logod ka.. kuid nagu kogu asi kokku.. nutupaneb kurku
https://brand.estonia.ee/design/principles/
Lehekoodimeister, okey, sellepiires mis tal teha kästi, tegi vast head tööd ja mõned logod ka.. kuid nagu kogu asi kokku.. nutupaneb kurku
https://brand.estonia.ee/design/principles/
3 April 2018 11:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mitte, et ma toetaks võrdõigust, vihkamist, ai tegemist või närviminekut kuid õpetamapeaks ikka kuidas kanaldada ja kasutada närve ja emotsioone õigesti, .. eks kunagi kui tõlge juurde pandud mis tegelt tehtud.. siis saab olema ka, miskit
3 April 2018 11:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Närvihaigetele üldiselt
https://youtu.be/M3wpQ2HnGDg
https://youtu.be/M3wpQ2HnGDg
https://youtu.be/M3wpQ2HnGDg
3 April 2018 11:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Bränd Estonia Pro kontol juba aastaga: "25 Followers" ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGKLlyJzmEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGKLlyJzmEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGKLlyJzmEY
3 April 2018 11:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 April 2018 11:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 April 2018 11:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"EAS may, at any given moment, cancel the license, sending a notification containing such information to the user. If EAS has brought to attention that the user breaches materials’ conditions of use and the user does not terminate the infringing activity, EAS has the right to demand that the user would stop using materials and in addition, a contractual penalty of up to 2000 EUR for every infringement. "
Hästi kutsub kasutama küll inimesi miskit kribu,
enamusi,
Selline jura
Veel meie innovaatilisusest ja avatust, "Eestimeelsusest"
Kus oma digi accete kaiseme nii hoogsalt et:
https://toolbox.estonia.ee/media/945
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modify the Site or use it for any commercial purpose or public display, performance, sale or rental;
de-compile, reverse engineer, or disassemble and modify the Site;
remove any copyright or other proprietary notices;
mine, hack, spider, or survey the Site;
engage in activities that would violate any fiduciary relationship, any applicable local, national or international law, or any regulations having the force of law,
collect or store personal data about other users unless specifically authorized by such users;
Ja veel et:
collect or store Site data for any other purpose except as explicitly allowed herein
Hästi kutsub kasutama küll inimesi miskit kribu,
enamusi,
Selline jura
Veel meie innovaatilisusest ja avatust, "Eestimeelsusest"
Kus oma digi accete kaiseme nii hoogsalt et:
https://toolbox.estonia.ee/media/945
You may not:
modify the Site or use it for any commercial purpose or public display, performance, sale or rental;
de-compile, reverse engineer, or disassemble and modify the Site;
remove any copyright or other proprietary notices;
mine, hack, spider, or survey the Site;
engage in activities that would violate any fiduciary relationship, any applicable local, national or international law, or any regulations having the force of law,
collect or store personal data about other users unless specifically authorized by such users;
Ja veel et:
collect or store Site data for any other purpose except as explicitly allowed herein
https://toolbox.estonia.ee/media/945
3 April 2018 11:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Wau jah: ..vaata et seda valesti ei kasuta ega muutma ei hakka.. muidu 2000 eurot traffi iga muudatuse ja rikkumise eest, wellcome to estonia_:
https://toolbox.estonia.ee/media/1093
https://toolbox.estonia.ee/media/1093
https://toolbox.estonia.ee/media/1093
3 April 2018 11:02
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Samalajal kui üksi kõndida, tasub muidugi ringivaadata kus need teised ka on
3 April 2018 09:12
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
androidi ja ipadi aäpp store will unapprove this app and ban it for sure
3 April 2018 09:11
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov ja mõne tööga mida väga vaja, ei saa sest keelatud kaudselt või otseselt.
Ajalooga tuttav, eks tead ise milliseid ebavajalikke töid inimesed meelega tegema pandud ja milliseid vajalike töid meelega likvideeritud, kuid ma räägin muidugi veel teravamatest ja suurtematest asjadest,
inimeste mõttemustrite muutmisest, et nad teatud asjade tegemisest saaks aru
Ajalooga tuttav, eks tead ise milliseid ebavajalikke töid inimesed meelega tegema pandud ja milliseid vajalike töid meelega likvideeritud, kuid ma räägin muidugi veel teravamatest ja suurtematest asjadest,
inimeste mõttemustrite muutmisest, et nad teatud asjade tegemisest saaks aru
3 April 2018 09:08
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Iga tööga millega teenida saab pole märgiks, et seda vaja on või ammugi, et teha tohiks.
3 April 2018 08:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Noortelegi Ajakohane, : Laura Põldvere 2020
tulevaste 2020 aegade osas kui keegi uurida suvatsenud mis pepinguid selleks ajaks ammu juba planeeritud on, nii ühendatud kosmosekeskuste osas 3's suppervõimus kui muid kõrvalisi leppeid .. kahju, et korralikku listi sellest teha pole saanud ajast kui seda juba 5'a tagasi märkasin:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214652205875554/
tulevaste 2020 aegade osas kui keegi uurida suvatsenud mis pepinguid selleks ajaks ammu juba planeeritud on, nii ühendatud kosmosekeskuste osas 3's suppervõimus kui muid kõrvalisi leppeid .. kahju, et korralikku listi sellest teha pole saanud ajast kui seda juba 5'a tagasi märkasin:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214652205875554/
3 April 2018 08:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Veel asjakohast muusikat: IMeline Aas
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214519638841461/
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214519638841461/
3 April 2018 08:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muideks see TÄEISTI ebasobiv laul mis eetritäiteks lasti mingi pop punk ingisekeeles, 8:15 ajas, pani inimesel kelle kaudu raadiot kuulasin üldse raadio kinni keerama,
ärge sellist jama vikerraadios palun laske!
nendel lauludel pole hinge, ingliskeelset head muusikat küll olemas nii noortele kui vanadele
ärge sellist jama vikerraadios palun laske!
nendel lauludel pole hinge, ingliskeelset head muusikat küll olemas nii noortele kui vanadele
3 April 2018 08:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Samas väike palve ka neile kes märkavad:
Mul ei ole ruumi / ühendust, et alla laadida oma facebooki kontot, milles on palju erinevat-huvitavat, maht on 5GB ligi.
Kui keegi oleks nii lahke, siis ma annaks lingi kust saate mu arhiivi alla laadida. Selleks, et kunagi tulevikutarvis olemas oleks.
Nimelt suur osa inimesi on arvutite asemel (millega saab internetis kasulikku tööd teha) kasutama hakanud mobiile (mis on ääretult limiteeritud seadmed võrreldes interneti võimalustega mida oma kodumaa jaoks siin informatsiooni võrgustikus rakendada saaksime..).
Eks ma kunagi varsti saa ka endale vahendeid juurde, siis saan selle koopia teilt tagasi laadida või kui mu asjad kõik alles, siis ise samast kohast laadida.
Muidu üldiste weebilehtede arhiveerimise osas ma ka juhised oma lehele pannud, eks me tulevased põlved saa aru, kui oluline see oli, salvestada me internetti
Mul ei ole ruumi / ühendust, et alla laadida oma facebooki kontot, milles on palju erinevat-huvitavat, maht on 5GB ligi.
Kui keegi oleks nii lahke, siis ma annaks lingi kust saate mu arhiivi alla laadida. Selleks, et kunagi tulevikutarvis olemas oleks.
Nimelt suur osa inimesi on arvutite asemel (millega saab internetis kasulikku tööd teha) kasutama hakanud mobiile (mis on ääretult limiteeritud seadmed võrreldes interneti võimalustega mida oma kodumaa jaoks siin informatsiooni võrgustikus rakendada saaksime..).
Eks ma kunagi varsti saa ka endale vahendeid juurde, siis saan selle koopia teilt tagasi laadida või kui mu asjad kõik alles, siis ise samast kohast laadida.
Muidu üldiste weebilehtede arhiveerimise osas ma ka juhised oma lehele pannud, eks me tulevased põlved saa aru, kui oluline see oli, salvestada me internetti
3 April 2018 08:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.facebook.com/VikerraadioEestilugu/
https://www.facebook.com/VikerraadioEestilugu/
facebook.com
Vikerraadio Eesti lugu
3 April 2018 08:08
Margus Meigo commented on Vikerraadio's photo.
Ilusat sünnipäeva me hingekandja üks viimaseid hääli kes riigis alles jäänud!
Seni kuni deemonkraatia püsib ja lipsumehed, alati asjakohane:
Peeter Tooma - Väikesed Kastid //
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214107544899370/
Tooma arendas edasi, ameeriklase algset laulu, daami versioon mul ka sellel lingil olemas!
Seni kuni deemonkraatia püsib ja lipsumehed, alati asjakohane:
Peeter Tooma - Väikesed Kastid //
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214107544899370/
Tooma arendas edasi, ameeriklase algset laulu, daami versioon mul ka sellel lingil olemas!
3 April 2018 08:00
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
See,et ma kirjeldada suudan kuidas õhupallid lendavad ei tähenda, et ma ise hõjumist ettenäitama saaks ahakatada tekitades tuule gaasi ja vaatajate huvi, ainuüksi selleks et näidata
2 April 2018 23:38
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Ei ole mul mittemidagi olemas peale ööpäevaringse töö, mis küll teistele oluline, nende oma enda ja kodumaa tarvis, kui see töö vilja kannab kuid mis mul endal viimasegi aja võtab selleks, et mõnuleda saaks rahateenimisega, küljeluu tarvis.
Mul ei ole aega raha teenida, mul vaja tööd teha
Mul ei ole aega raha teenida, mul vaja tööd teha
2 April 2018 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov veab nendel jah, kellel on.
Saatus(olukord), olukord(kus hoitakse), kus hoitakse (selletõttu mis huvid) ja mis huvid (mis tekitavad Saatuse)
saavad olla inimestel vastavalt oma hingele, kellegi välise plaanile või kasvatusele väga erinevad ning seega valikud mida keegi teha saab tuleneb sellest.
Muidugi need kes eleavad ilmaloos ja usus kus neil kõik 100% ENDA teha on, eks nendel veab ja ei hakka neid mulle lõhkuma.
Minul endal mu südametunne, südametunnistus ja keda armastan niiväga enda teha pole, kui Sinu maailma inimestel on, siis ma ei hakka selles osas vaidlema, kuigi ma absoluutselt veendunult tean,, et kõik ei ole võimalik ja enamus mida enamuse poolt paremusesuunas võimatuks peetakse on täiesti lihtsalt tehtav.
Muidugi on enda teha, kuid kõik mida siin ilmas igaleühele vaja pole enda teha, on ainult enda teha võimalusi mis viiks meid vajaduste ligi mis võimaldaks seda mida teha soovime, kuid võimaldamine juba alati saab sõltuda ka kellegi teiste suure hulga otsustest, sest isegi kogu maailmakorraldust juhtides pole me kaugeltki mitte iseotsustajad enamuste toimimiste üle ning väga ebatõenäone näiks olema võimalus, et me kunagi seda suunda isegi saavutama peaksime
Saatus(olukord), olukord(kus hoitakse), kus hoitakse (selletõttu mis huvid) ja mis huvid (mis tekitavad Saatuse)
saavad olla inimestel vastavalt oma hingele, kellegi välise plaanile või kasvatusele väga erinevad ning seega valikud mida keegi teha saab tuleneb sellest.
Muidugi need kes eleavad ilmaloos ja usus kus neil kõik 100% ENDA teha on, eks nendel veab ja ei hakka neid mulle lõhkuma.
Minul endal mu südametunne, südametunnistus ja keda armastan niiväga enda teha pole, kui Sinu maailma inimestel on, siis ma ei hakka selles osas vaidlema, kuigi ma absoluutselt veendunult tean,, et kõik ei ole võimalik ja enamus mida enamuse poolt paremusesuunas võimatuks peetakse on täiesti lihtsalt tehtav.
Muidugi on enda teha, kuid kõik mida siin ilmas igaleühele vaja pole enda teha, on ainult enda teha võimalusi mis viiks meid vajaduste ligi mis võimaldaks seda mida teha soovime, kuid võimaldamine juba alati saab sõltuda ka kellegi teiste suure hulga otsustest, sest isegi kogu maailmakorraldust juhtides pole me kaugeltki mitte iseotsustajad enamuste toimimiste üle ning väga ebatõenäone näiks olema võimalus, et me kunagi seda suunda isegi saavutama peaksime
2 April 2018 23:07
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Peaasi, et edasi, vabaduse poole
2 April 2018 22:35
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ainuke asi mis puudu on ongi Naine ja raha
kummatagi, ei paranda isegi kui Jumal juba olemas
kummatagi, ei paranda isegi kui Jumal juba olemas
2 April 2018 14:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Võla, tule ja haiguse riismed on võimelised uuesti kasvama - hävitage need lõplikult.
- Vana idamaa tarkus
- Vana idamaa tarkus
2 April 2018 13:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
PS: esimesed 180 võib automaat-maksetesse mattuda (hetkeks, eismesel korral)... kuid see vähem kui ülekandetasu tõsistekannetepuhul ..selle teenuse puhul... mis see oligi, see eesti mingi suur sucess story mis kohe maha paresldati ja liberaalsuega seestpoolt vist ka rikuti... miski rahaülekande teenus oli... pakkusin neil veel kryptokoostööd ja lingiehitamist osade ülekannete kiiremaks tegemiseks ja säästmiseks ja ülbelt keelduti... ja kui nende kontori sisekorraldust kuulsin.. siis sai selgeks ka, et ega nad pidama jää sellisena.. ammugi mitte meie riigile... kuid hmm.. näed, nii irrelevandiks see firma muutunud, et nimi meelest läinud isegi
oot oot motlen
rahaülekande teenus, Eesti algega planeeritud.. hmm
//muidu kuulisi kohustusi hetkeks veel ei ole ole...
oot oot motlen
rahaülekande teenus, Eesti algega planeeritud.. hmm
//muidu kuulisi kohustusi hetkeks veel ei ole ole...
2 April 2018 11:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuskile mujale mulle ka märke saata nii endale kui teistele tõestuseks, ekranipildina vms,
sellel oma lisaväärtus ka.
Kuid arvestades, et keskmise postituse vaatamise arv 5000 kontakti peale on tihti alla 0.005% siis eriti suurt ohtu pole, et üleääre ajama hakkaks.
(popimate postituste % on vast kuni 0.01 kuid reaalsete testide puhul mida teinud, ikka kõvasti alla selle
ainult kontakte mitte "kontaktide kontakte" arvestades kus tulekssuuruse miinusele veel sadu kordi lainev miinus juurde arvestada)
sellel oma lisaväärtus ka.
Kuid arvestades, et keskmise postituse vaatamise arv 5000 kontakti peale on tihti alla 0.005% siis eriti suurt ohtu pole, et üleääre ajama hakkaks.
(popimate postituste % on vast kuni 0.01 kuid reaalsete testide puhul mida teinud, ikka kõvasti alla selle
ainult kontakte mitte "kontaktide kontakte" arvestades kus tulekssuuruse miinusele veel sadu kordi lainev miinus juurde arvestada)
2 April 2018 11:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Märge
2 April 2018 11:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Yeah,
siin ka nagu tihti kuulnud umbluud, et energiat ja jõudu vaja :D:D
Sisi ma ikka küsinud, et nimetagu maailma eismesed tugevaimad loomad kes suudavad raskusi pikalt vedada, et kas nood on enamuses taimetoitlased v..
siin ka nagu tihti kuulnud umbluud, et energiat ja jõudu vaja :D:D
Sisi ma ikka küsinud, et nimetagu maailma eismesed tugevaimad loomad kes suudavad raskusi pikalt vedada, et kas nood on enamuses taimetoitlased v..
2 April 2018 10:52
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
ma pargivahiga tõsiselt ärevalt tülli läksin ,et ta mul rotte pargis toita ei lubanud
2 April 2018 10:50
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
See ajsalik silt, sest ütleb MIDA võid anda... enamussildid ainult keelavad söötmist ja need väga häirivad mind
2 April 2018 10:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
seni kuni nendega ülearu eip minda, et nagu hakataksegi otsima kukkumisi jms
2 April 2018 10:49
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
see lihtsalt üks paljudest eneseabi slooganitestneile kes elus kukkunud kas enda või teiste vigade või halva ilma tõttu
Kuid eks self empowerment slooganid ikka abiks
Kuid eks self empowerment slooganid ikka abiks
2 April 2018 10:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kui kovakettad juba kaovad toast.. siis pole aega ka lõputultoodata. ja noid kaustikutesse koguda
2 April 2018 09:46
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Tahad lennata või juba lendad?
Wau!
Wau!
2 April 2018 09:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"
Juhtub imelikke asju
12. septembri õhtul pani ta soojalt riidesse. Pistis passi ja pensionitunnistuse taskuse. Ütles: «Lähen jalutama.» Kõndis rongile.
Politsei sai pikendust tagaotsitavate nimestikule. Vanemkonstaabel Urmas Piht korjas Koidu tuttavatelt seletusi. Koidu minia ning perekond, kelle juures ta elas, aitasid politseid kuidas jaksasid.
Otsimisel võeti 25. septembri paiku hoog maha. Koidu pikaaegne Rootsi kirjasõber Vaho Eier sai Ülo Koidult Lätist 13. septembri kuupäevaga kirja. Kõik ohkasid kergendatult, aimamata, et kirja saatja lebab juba Jurmala kitsukeses surnukuuris. Kirjas pole sõnagi enesetapust: «Seiklen ja sõidan edasi, imestad, miks... Ei taha üksikasju seletada, kuid olen end oma armsa perenaise ees rängalt kompromiteerinud. Seepärast ma enam Eestisse tagasi ei tule. Juhtub imelikke asju, mida on teistel raske mõista. Soovin sulle kõike head. Ära pane pahaks ootamatut pööret.»
Kiri kinnitab kaudselt mõnede Koidu tuttavate arvamust, et ta kadumise üks, kuid mitte peamine põhjus oli lehes ilmuv Indrek Jürjo järjejutt «Pagulus ja Nõukogude Eesti». VEKSA-raamatu ilmumisest on räägitud aastaid. Koit oli tuttavate ringis samuti aastaid ütelnud: «See raamat ei ilmu kunagi!» Jürjo ei unusta raamatus meenutamast Ülo Koidu osalemist välisluure üritustes ja sedagi, et ta agendinimi oli «Jaan - 2». Need read jäid Koidul lehest lugemata. Küll teadvustas ta septembris lõplikult, et raamat ilmub. Nii sõitiski ta nomenklatuuri õndsatest suvituspäevadest tuttavasse Jurmalasse. Manustas mingeid tablette, viskas dokumendid ära ning saatis end Lielupe jões allavoolu lootuses, et ta maetakse maha lihtsalt kui tundmatu. Mitte kui sõna otseses ja kaudses mõttes poliitiline laip.
Tõeteadja kadumine
Juba enne raamatu ilmumist ning viimase katte kiskumist VEKSA-lt oli Koiduga ühte leibkonda kuulumine eneseületamine. Tuttavad, kelle juures Koit elas, meenutavad mõnede töökaaslaste halvustavaid pilke ja märkusi à la «Kas teie olete ka üks nendest?».
Ta oli muutunud juba liialt paljudele koormaks. Loomulikult ei hakanud Koit ootama, millal hakatakse teda tüütama palvetega anda tunnistusi presidendi süümevande asjus. Igal juhul on fakt, et tema teadis presidendi minevikust enam-vähem kogu tõde. Kas see tõde asetab Meri positiivsesse või negatiivsesse valgusse, on iseküsimus. Rohkem pädevaid tunnistajaid süümevande vaidlustajad vaevalt leiavad. Seda ei soovinud Koit ilmselt endale teadvustada, et surnuna, valimiste ajal kadumaläinuna on ta presidendile veel ebamugavam tutvus kui elavana. Plaan vaikselt haihtuda olnuks hiilgav, kui tal õnnestunuks tõepoolest kadunuks jääda. Siis võinunuks üldsus mõelda, et ta läks mõnda välisriiki, kus tal agendiaastatest tutvusi. Praegu Jurmala surnukuuris lebades jätab ta paratamatult õhku küsimused: miks tappa end nii kaugel, kui võinuks ka lähemal, ja milleks enesetapuks võtta kodunt kaasa hinnalisi suveniirmünte? Need on vajalikud elamiseks, mitte suremiseks. Profid mõrvavad nii, et ei jää mingeid jälgi, ja uppuda võib ka veekausis.
Vastuseid nendele küsimustele pole nüüd enam võimeline leidma ühegi riigi politsei.
Juhtub imelikke asju
12. septembri õhtul pani ta soojalt riidesse. Pistis passi ja pensionitunnistuse taskuse. Ütles: «Lähen jalutama.» Kõndis rongile.
Politsei sai pikendust tagaotsitavate nimestikule. Vanemkonstaabel Urmas Piht korjas Koidu tuttavatelt seletusi. Koidu minia ning perekond, kelle juures ta elas, aitasid politseid kuidas jaksasid.
Otsimisel võeti 25. septembri paiku hoog maha. Koidu pikaaegne Rootsi kirjasõber Vaho Eier sai Ülo Koidult Lätist 13. septembri kuupäevaga kirja. Kõik ohkasid kergendatult, aimamata, et kirja saatja lebab juba Jurmala kitsukeses surnukuuris. Kirjas pole sõnagi enesetapust: «Seiklen ja sõidan edasi, imestad, miks... Ei taha üksikasju seletada, kuid olen end oma armsa perenaise ees rängalt kompromiteerinud. Seepärast ma enam Eestisse tagasi ei tule. Juhtub imelikke asju, mida on teistel raske mõista. Soovin sulle kõike head. Ära pane pahaks ootamatut pööret.»
Kiri kinnitab kaudselt mõnede Koidu tuttavate arvamust, et ta kadumise üks, kuid mitte peamine põhjus oli lehes ilmuv Indrek Jürjo järjejutt «Pagulus ja Nõukogude Eesti». VEKSA-raamatu ilmumisest on räägitud aastaid. Koit oli tuttavate ringis samuti aastaid ütelnud: «See raamat ei ilmu kunagi!» Jürjo ei unusta raamatus meenutamast Ülo Koidu osalemist välisluure üritustes ja sedagi, et ta agendinimi oli «Jaan - 2». Need read jäid Koidul lehest lugemata. Küll teadvustas ta septembris lõplikult, et raamat ilmub. Nii sõitiski ta nomenklatuuri õndsatest suvituspäevadest tuttavasse Jurmalasse. Manustas mingeid tablette, viskas dokumendid ära ning saatis end Lielupe jões allavoolu lootuses, et ta maetakse maha lihtsalt kui tundmatu. Mitte kui sõna otseses ja kaudses mõttes poliitiline laip.
Tõeteadja kadumine
Juba enne raamatu ilmumist ning viimase katte kiskumist VEKSA-lt oli Koiduga ühte leibkonda kuulumine eneseületamine. Tuttavad, kelle juures Koit elas, meenutavad mõnede töökaaslaste halvustavaid pilke ja märkusi à la «Kas teie olete ka üks nendest?».
Ta oli muutunud juba liialt paljudele koormaks. Loomulikult ei hakanud Koit ootama, millal hakatakse teda tüütama palvetega anda tunnistusi presidendi süümevande asjus. Igal juhul on fakt, et tema teadis presidendi minevikust enam-vähem kogu tõde. Kas see tõde asetab Meri positiivsesse või negatiivsesse valgusse, on iseküsimus. Rohkem pädevaid tunnistajaid süümevande vaidlustajad vaevalt leiavad. Seda ei soovinud Koit ilmselt endale teadvustada, et surnuna, valimiste ajal kadumaläinuna on ta presidendile veel ebamugavam tutvus kui elavana. Plaan vaikselt haihtuda olnuks hiilgav, kui tal õnnestunuks tõepoolest kadunuks jääda. Siis võinunuks üldsus mõelda, et ta läks mõnda välisriiki, kus tal agendiaastatest tutvusi. Praegu Jurmala surnukuuris lebades jätab ta paratamatult õhku küsimused: miks tappa end nii kaugel, kui võinuks ka lähemal, ja milleks enesetapuks võtta kodunt kaasa hinnalisi suveniirmünte? Need on vajalikud elamiseks, mitte suremiseks. Profid mõrvavad nii, et ei jää mingeid jälgi, ja uppuda võib ka veekausis.
Vastuseid nendele küsimustele pole nüüd enam võimeline leidma ühegi riigi politsei.
2 April 2018 03:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
«Jaan – 2» tahab koju
https://web.archive.org/web/20080127053830/http://luup.postimees.ee/luup/96/29/sise3.htm
Uppunu, kelle kalapüüdev poisike septembris Lätist Lielupe jõest leidis, on kunagine president Lennart Meri hea sõber, VEKSA ühingu eksesimees Ülo Koit. Kas ta kaotas end ise siit ilmast või kaotati – igal juhul on see poliitiline surm.
tekst: Virkko Lepassalu
Jurmala politsei ja kohtuarst on Koidust tüdinud. Ta ei tähenda nende jaoks kunagist Nõukogude nomenklatuurametnikku ja KGB välisluure agenti, vaid on lihtsalt hulkuriga võrdne vanamees, kellele järeletulekuga omaksed viivitavad. Teinud kindlaks surma põhjuse (see on uppumine), ei ole Läti võimud Koidu kohta midagi uurinud.
Uppunul oli seljas Baltika ülikond ja taskus sigaretipakk «Leek». Tema surnukeha koormab Jurmala kitsukest morgi juba 2,5 kuud. Tahtmine loole kriipsu alla tõmmata ajendas lätlasi novembri keskel Eesti Interpolilt küsima: kas teil pole kadunud seitsmekümneaastane mees?
Koidu ainus lähedane sugulane on minia, lapsendatud ja 1995.a. surnud poja Vladimiri naine. Ta tundis politseilt saadud rõivaste kirjelduse järgi äia ära. Eesti saatkonna ametnik Riias aga nentis veel novembri keskel: meid pole surnukeha Eestisse saatmise küsimusest informeeritud.
Minia Natalja aga ei tea, millal ta jõuab oma kasina sissetulekuga niikaugele, et Koidu kodumaale toob. Koidu tuttavate abi on ta uhkelt tagasi lükanud. Natalja leiab, et ainult tema on Ülot täielikult mõistnud ja et VEKSA-t on üldse asjata mustatud. See oli tema arvates ikkagi eestlastele vajalik ühing ja Koit oli ainult head teha tahtev inimene.
Oma elu on Koit võtnud kokku kirjutusmasinal tipitud paberilehel. See jäi temast koju muude paberite sekka. Kirjas on välisreiside loetelu: 30 aasta jooksul 40 sõitu 20 riiki. Eksootilisemad paigad on Hiina, India, Malaisia, Singapur. Loetelu lõpetab käsitsi tehtud märge: «1995 - 13. Rootsis käik. Lõpp.»
Koit juhtis Väliseestlastega Kultuurisidemete Arendamise Ühingut (VEKSA) ideoloogilise sõja karmimail aastail, 1975-85. Parima ülevaate tema töökaist aastaist siis ja enne annab väljasõidutoimik.
Ankeetidesse on Koit kirjutanud: isa teadmata. (Tuttavate ringis on ta end poolsuurustades nimetanud kirjanik Evald Tammlaane sohipojaks.) Koidu ema oli tõlk lehetoimetustes, näiteks «Vabas Maas». Pärast juunipööret riikliku teadeteagentuuri osakonnajuhataja. Suri Leningradist evakueerimisel 1942.
1944.a. Rootsi põgenenud kirjanik Helmi Mäelo on mälestusraamatus «Elutegevuses» kirjutanud, et romaani «Vallaslaps» loomiseks andis tõuke tutvus Ülo emaga: «See noor üksik ema võitles vahvasti oma raskustega.» Mäelo kirjutab ka, et uue võimu juures oli ta tõusnud kõrgele usalduspositsioonile ning käis sageli tõlgina Moskvas.
Tutvus Mäeloga aitas Koidul hiljem Rootsi-eestlaste hulgas usalduse võitmisele kaasa.
Saksa okupatsiooni aegses Eesti julgeolekupolitsei kartoteegis oli Ülo Koit arvel kui komnoor.
Väljasõidutoimikust selgub, et sõja ajal käis Ülo Koit Vene tagalas traktoristide ja ENSV parteiaktiivi kursustel. Augustis 1944 oli ta Eesti kompartei keskkomitee tehniline sekretär. Sama aasta tähistab Koidu lülitumist julgeoleku agendivõrku. 1947-49 oli Koit «Valgamaalase» toimetaja, 1950. aastast ENSV raadiokomitee kirjandussaadete vastutav toimetaja, 1950-75 tele-raadiokomitee esimehe asetäitja. 50-ndate keskpaigast töötas ta ühtlasi KGB välisluurele - sõidud Soome, Tshehhoslovakkiasse, Hiinasse jm. Ühes väljasõidutoimiku dokumendis andis kahjuks loetamatu allkirjaga KGB ohvitser Koidu tööle välisluureüritustes kiitva hinnangu. Kiitust oli Koidul vaja 1970.a. kuuajaseks luuramiseks Rootsis. Ta oli külas inimesel, kes sündinud 1929 Rootsis, töötanud 1959-62 Eesti Raadios rootslastele mõeldud saadete diktorina, hiljem Rootsis turismibüroo asedirektorina. Ühtlasi oli ta 60-ndate algul Koidu õpingukaaslane NLKP kõrgemas parteikoolis Moskvas.
Armas Ülo Koit
Ligi 20-aastane (välisluure) agendi staazh annab aluse väiteks, et Koit pidi olema palgaline KGB-ohvitser. VEKSA esimehena 1975-85 töötas ta KGB-le vaid kui usaldusisik. Koosseisulised julgeolekuohvitserid olid tavaliselt VEKSA ühingu esimehe asetäitjad, kellest sageli sõltus rohkem kui esimeestest.
1977.a. soovitaski VEKSA aseesimees Lembit Kumm Koitu ühingu «Rodina» grupis sõiduks Kanadasse ja USA-sse. («Rodina» oli VEKSA üleliiduline analoog, mille juhatusse Koit kuulus.) «Sm. Koidu algatusel on läbi viidud mitmeid huvitavaid üritusi kaasmaalaste eemaletõmbamiseks reaktsiooniliste emigrantide mõju alt ja Eesti NSV elutegelikkuse tutvustamiseks,» kiitis Kumm oma soovituses Koitu.
Tolleaegne ministrite nõukogu aseesimees Arnold Green iseloomustas 1979.a. Koitu «nõudliku ja printsipiaalse juhina», kelle ajal on VEKSA tegevus muutunud mitmekülgsemaks eriti «väliseestlaste seas läbiviidava info- ja propagandatöö osas».
Need olid aastad, mil VEKSA suutis enda ümber koguda märkimisväärse osa Eesti vaimueliidist. «VEKSA seotust KGB luureosakonnaga paljud haritlased nähtavasti endale ei teadvustanudki või suhtusid sellesse õlakehitusega,» kinnitab ajaloolane Indrek Jürjo.
Teiste kirjanike seas püüdis Koidu kui oma välissõitude patrooniga hästi läbi saada ka Lennart Meri. Ta on Koidule kinkinud mitmeid pühendustega raamatuid, alustades «Laevapoistest rohelisel ookeanil» 1962.a.
Kuulsa «Hõbevalge» tiitellehte ehib 1979. aastast korrapärane käekiri: «Ülo Koidule ühe reisiderohke aasta hakul ja optimistlikult kõikvõimalike metsade ning ülikoolide poole vaadates, Lennart.» 1979 kirjutas Meri mäletatavasti VEKSA-le oma kuulsa reisikirja «Maraton Ühendriikides ja Kanadas». Ta jagas seal juhtnööre, kuidas VEKSA võiks mõju välisvõitlejate hulgas laiendada.
1978.a. tänab Lennart «armast Ülo Koitu» raadiomaja noorusmälestuste eest paksu ingliskeelse põdranahkades laplastest kirjutatud raamatuga. Lennart Mere raadiosse töölevõtmise avaldusel on Ü.K. initsiaalidega tekst: soov rahuldada.
Olen väsinud kõigest
Viimased aastad elas Koit heade tuttavate juures vaikset vanainimeseelu. Nemad hoolitsesid ta eest, tema vaatas vastutasuks lapse, hundikoera ja korteri järele. Koit hüüdis oma «leivavanemaid» romantiliselt «perenaiseks» ja «pereisaks». Ta ei andnud sõnagagi märku, et 12. septembri õhtul on tal kavas jäädavalt lahkuda. Tagantjärele mõeldes käitus Koit siiski kummaliselt - justkui valmistus viimseks teekonnaks Riiga ja Jurmalasse.
Esimese katse areenilt kadumiseks tegi Koit 1995.a. aprillis. Aegviidu metsas kugistas ta alla purgi südametablette. Hommikul liivasel künkal ärgates leidis end üllatusega elus olevat. Idee olevat ta saanud ühest saksa filmist, kus keegi professor oli samamoodi teinud ja ilusasti ära surnud. Koju oli Koit jätnud kirja, kus ütles muu hulgas: «Mul pole kellelegi etteheiteid peale iseenda. Et olen väsinud kõigest, mis 70 aastat mulle turjale on ladunud.»
Tänavu aprillis lasi ta end kellelegi sõna lausumata korterist välja kirjutada. Kui asi juunis kogemata ilmsiks tuli, ei lausunud ta «leivavanematele» sõnagi.
Jaanipäeva paiku pakkus ta Välis-Eesti Ühingu juhatajale Leili Utnole oma arhiivi ja ennast ühingu liikmeks. Utno keeldus viisakalt, kuid külmalt. (Välis-Eesti Ühingul pole tegemist VEKSA-ga, ta on ennesõjaaegse ühingu mantlipärija.)
Varsti lasi Koit samuti sõnagi lausumata vormistada tema nimel olnud korteritelefoni pereisa nimele.
Mõned nädalad enne lõplikku kadumist oli ta hajevil. Soris oma asju ning hävitas kunagi amatöörkaameraga tehtud filme.
Viimane kohtumine presidendiga oli «armsal Ülo Koidul» augustis ESTO päevade lõpupeol. President saatis Koidule järele oma käsundusohvitseri. Nad vestlesid millestki. Koju jõudes oli Koit heas tujus. Ta jagas rõõmu, et Lennart pole 30 aastat kestnud sõprust unustanud, ka teistega.
https://web.archive.org/web/20080127053830/http://luup.postimees.ee/luup/96/29/sise3.htm
Uppunu, kelle kalapüüdev poisike septembris Lätist Lielupe jõest leidis, on kunagine president Lennart Meri hea sõber, VEKSA ühingu eksesimees Ülo Koit. Kas ta kaotas end ise siit ilmast või kaotati – igal juhul on see poliitiline surm.
tekst: Virkko Lepassalu
Jurmala politsei ja kohtuarst on Koidust tüdinud. Ta ei tähenda nende jaoks kunagist Nõukogude nomenklatuurametnikku ja KGB välisluure agenti, vaid on lihtsalt hulkuriga võrdne vanamees, kellele järeletulekuga omaksed viivitavad. Teinud kindlaks surma põhjuse (see on uppumine), ei ole Läti võimud Koidu kohta midagi uurinud.
Uppunul oli seljas Baltika ülikond ja taskus sigaretipakk «Leek». Tema surnukeha koormab Jurmala kitsukest morgi juba 2,5 kuud. Tahtmine loole kriipsu alla tõmmata ajendas lätlasi novembri keskel Eesti Interpolilt küsima: kas teil pole kadunud seitsmekümneaastane mees?
Koidu ainus lähedane sugulane on minia, lapsendatud ja 1995.a. surnud poja Vladimiri naine. Ta tundis politseilt saadud rõivaste kirjelduse järgi äia ära. Eesti saatkonna ametnik Riias aga nentis veel novembri keskel: meid pole surnukeha Eestisse saatmise küsimusest informeeritud.
Minia Natalja aga ei tea, millal ta jõuab oma kasina sissetulekuga niikaugele, et Koidu kodumaale toob. Koidu tuttavate abi on ta uhkelt tagasi lükanud. Natalja leiab, et ainult tema on Ülot täielikult mõistnud ja et VEKSA-t on üldse asjata mustatud. See oli tema arvates ikkagi eestlastele vajalik ühing ja Koit oli ainult head teha tahtev inimene.
Oma elu on Koit võtnud kokku kirjutusmasinal tipitud paberilehel. See jäi temast koju muude paberite sekka. Kirjas on välisreiside loetelu: 30 aasta jooksul 40 sõitu 20 riiki. Eksootilisemad paigad on Hiina, India, Malaisia, Singapur. Loetelu lõpetab käsitsi tehtud märge: «1995 - 13. Rootsis käik. Lõpp.»
Koit juhtis Väliseestlastega Kultuurisidemete Arendamise Ühingut (VEKSA) ideoloogilise sõja karmimail aastail, 1975-85. Parima ülevaate tema töökaist aastaist siis ja enne annab väljasõidutoimik.
Ankeetidesse on Koit kirjutanud: isa teadmata. (Tuttavate ringis on ta end poolsuurustades nimetanud kirjanik Evald Tammlaane sohipojaks.) Koidu ema oli tõlk lehetoimetustes, näiteks «Vabas Maas». Pärast juunipööret riikliku teadeteagentuuri osakonnajuhataja. Suri Leningradist evakueerimisel 1942.
1944.a. Rootsi põgenenud kirjanik Helmi Mäelo on mälestusraamatus «Elutegevuses» kirjutanud, et romaani «Vallaslaps» loomiseks andis tõuke tutvus Ülo emaga: «See noor üksik ema võitles vahvasti oma raskustega.» Mäelo kirjutab ka, et uue võimu juures oli ta tõusnud kõrgele usalduspositsioonile ning käis sageli tõlgina Moskvas.
Tutvus Mäeloga aitas Koidul hiljem Rootsi-eestlaste hulgas usalduse võitmisele kaasa.
Saksa okupatsiooni aegses Eesti julgeolekupolitsei kartoteegis oli Ülo Koit arvel kui komnoor.
Väljasõidutoimikust selgub, et sõja ajal käis Ülo Koit Vene tagalas traktoristide ja ENSV parteiaktiivi kursustel. Augustis 1944 oli ta Eesti kompartei keskkomitee tehniline sekretär. Sama aasta tähistab Koidu lülitumist julgeoleku agendivõrku. 1947-49 oli Koit «Valgamaalase» toimetaja, 1950. aastast ENSV raadiokomitee kirjandussaadete vastutav toimetaja, 1950-75 tele-raadiokomitee esimehe asetäitja. 50-ndate keskpaigast töötas ta ühtlasi KGB välisluurele - sõidud Soome, Tshehhoslovakkiasse, Hiinasse jm. Ühes väljasõidutoimiku dokumendis andis kahjuks loetamatu allkirjaga KGB ohvitser Koidu tööle välisluureüritustes kiitva hinnangu. Kiitust oli Koidul vaja 1970.a. kuuajaseks luuramiseks Rootsis. Ta oli külas inimesel, kes sündinud 1929 Rootsis, töötanud 1959-62 Eesti Raadios rootslastele mõeldud saadete diktorina, hiljem Rootsis turismibüroo asedirektorina. Ühtlasi oli ta 60-ndate algul Koidu õpingukaaslane NLKP kõrgemas parteikoolis Moskvas.
Armas Ülo Koit
Ligi 20-aastane (välisluure) agendi staazh annab aluse väiteks, et Koit pidi olema palgaline KGB-ohvitser. VEKSA esimehena 1975-85 töötas ta KGB-le vaid kui usaldusisik. Koosseisulised julgeolekuohvitserid olid tavaliselt VEKSA ühingu esimehe asetäitjad, kellest sageli sõltus rohkem kui esimeestest.
1977.a. soovitaski VEKSA aseesimees Lembit Kumm Koitu ühingu «Rodina» grupis sõiduks Kanadasse ja USA-sse. («Rodina» oli VEKSA üleliiduline analoog, mille juhatusse Koit kuulus.) «Sm. Koidu algatusel on läbi viidud mitmeid huvitavaid üritusi kaasmaalaste eemaletõmbamiseks reaktsiooniliste emigrantide mõju alt ja Eesti NSV elutegelikkuse tutvustamiseks,» kiitis Kumm oma soovituses Koitu.
Tolleaegne ministrite nõukogu aseesimees Arnold Green iseloomustas 1979.a. Koitu «nõudliku ja printsipiaalse juhina», kelle ajal on VEKSA tegevus muutunud mitmekülgsemaks eriti «väliseestlaste seas läbiviidava info- ja propagandatöö osas».
Need olid aastad, mil VEKSA suutis enda ümber koguda märkimisväärse osa Eesti vaimueliidist. «VEKSA seotust KGB luureosakonnaga paljud haritlased nähtavasti endale ei teadvustanudki või suhtusid sellesse õlakehitusega,» kinnitab ajaloolane Indrek Jürjo.
Teiste kirjanike seas püüdis Koidu kui oma välissõitude patrooniga hästi läbi saada ka Lennart Meri. Ta on Koidule kinkinud mitmeid pühendustega raamatuid, alustades «Laevapoistest rohelisel ookeanil» 1962.a.
Kuulsa «Hõbevalge» tiitellehte ehib 1979. aastast korrapärane käekiri: «Ülo Koidule ühe reisiderohke aasta hakul ja optimistlikult kõikvõimalike metsade ning ülikoolide poole vaadates, Lennart.» 1979 kirjutas Meri mäletatavasti VEKSA-le oma kuulsa reisikirja «Maraton Ühendriikides ja Kanadas». Ta jagas seal juhtnööre, kuidas VEKSA võiks mõju välisvõitlejate hulgas laiendada.
1978.a. tänab Lennart «armast Ülo Koitu» raadiomaja noorusmälestuste eest paksu ingliskeelse põdranahkades laplastest kirjutatud raamatuga. Lennart Mere raadiosse töölevõtmise avaldusel on Ü.K. initsiaalidega tekst: soov rahuldada.
Olen väsinud kõigest
Viimased aastad elas Koit heade tuttavate juures vaikset vanainimeseelu. Nemad hoolitsesid ta eest, tema vaatas vastutasuks lapse, hundikoera ja korteri järele. Koit hüüdis oma «leivavanemaid» romantiliselt «perenaiseks» ja «pereisaks». Ta ei andnud sõnagagi märku, et 12. septembri õhtul on tal kavas jäädavalt lahkuda. Tagantjärele mõeldes käitus Koit siiski kummaliselt - justkui valmistus viimseks teekonnaks Riiga ja Jurmalasse.
Esimese katse areenilt kadumiseks tegi Koit 1995.a. aprillis. Aegviidu metsas kugistas ta alla purgi südametablette. Hommikul liivasel künkal ärgates leidis end üllatusega elus olevat. Idee olevat ta saanud ühest saksa filmist, kus keegi professor oli samamoodi teinud ja ilusasti ära surnud. Koju oli Koit jätnud kirja, kus ütles muu hulgas: «Mul pole kellelegi etteheiteid peale iseenda. Et olen väsinud kõigest, mis 70 aastat mulle turjale on ladunud.»
Tänavu aprillis lasi ta end kellelegi sõna lausumata korterist välja kirjutada. Kui asi juunis kogemata ilmsiks tuli, ei lausunud ta «leivavanematele» sõnagi.
Jaanipäeva paiku pakkus ta Välis-Eesti Ühingu juhatajale Leili Utnole oma arhiivi ja ennast ühingu liikmeks. Utno keeldus viisakalt, kuid külmalt. (Välis-Eesti Ühingul pole tegemist VEKSA-ga, ta on ennesõjaaegse ühingu mantlipärija.)
Varsti lasi Koit samuti sõnagi lausumata vormistada tema nimel olnud korteritelefoni pereisa nimele.
Mõned nädalad enne lõplikku kadumist oli ta hajevil. Soris oma asju ning hävitas kunagi amatöörkaameraga tehtud filme.
Viimane kohtumine presidendiga oli «armsal Ülo Koidul» augustis ESTO päevade lõpupeol. President saatis Koidule järele oma käsundusohvitseri. Nad vestlesid millestki. Koju jõudes oli Koit heas tujus. Ta jagas rõõmu, et Lennart pole 30 aastat kestnud sõprust unustanud, ka teistega.
https://web.archive.org/web/20080127053830/http://luup.postimees.ee/luup/96/29/sise3.htm
2 April 2018 03:07
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vanarahu
16.03.2013 13:45
Artikli autor on:
Mälupeetusega....
Koer polevat haukunud.... Mis tähendab polevat??? Ei haukunud??? Naabrid ei kuulnud???? Koer ise vaikne ja rahulik???
Mingid kaamerad...
Olid jah kaamerad kuid raha kokkuhoiu pärast välja lülitatud.
Paranoia:P
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Totuke - Kapist hauakaevaja
16.03.2013 13:52
TO "kaineks või võta roheline tablett ära!
Ja mis puutuvad siia " 1941 ja 1949 aasta võimulolijate ja küüditajate nimekirjad""!
Kas Sina oled üks neist 4000 eestis tegutsevast KGB agendist?
Mõrvauurimisgrupp moodustati juba enne kui olid laibad leitud! Kust üldse teati et nad tapetud on? KGBlane Enn Leisson uurimisgrupi ülemana . .naerukoht!
165 cm Arne Hiob ja 170cm väga kõhn Ennu Gansen mõrvariteks ja hauakaevajateks. Pole ühtki tõendit et Toravere karjääri sõideti just Meri enda Ziguliga. Selle tõestamiseks polnud vaja DNA ekspertiisi võimalusi! Kui Meri mõrvariteks olid Gansen ja Hiob siis kuidas hankisid nad Paide lihakombinaadist kolmveerand kotti kloorlupja?? Rist ja kuuseoksad viitavad küll kristlasest mõrvaritele kuid haua klooriga ülepuistamine välistab kristlased! VASTUOLU või kuidas? Meenutab nagu kellegi süüdi lavastamist? Pole siis ime et Gansen kohtus õigeks mõisteti ja Hiiobit kohtu alla ei antudki!
Muuseas .. .Hiiobi koolikaslased ei usu üksi et ta mõrvaks võimeline on ja tema alkoholilembus on ka kellegi väljamõeldis. Vene sõjaväest pääsemiseks on paljud end skisofreeniahulluks lasknud tembeldada ja et asi tõene paistaks käidi ka õnedki korrad ravil!:D Miskipärast tundub kogu see uurimine olevat keskendunud ainult ühele . . .valetada ja vassida et TÕELINE süüdlane päevavalgele ei tuleks!
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ju parvaev Estonia huku kohta ka ja salastati. . Pastori mõrvarid on vist ikka võimu juures olijad ja hunt hunti ei murra.
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Jaani kiriku õpetajad, üks vabamüürlane ja teine mõrva lähedal olnud inimene.
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"Türi topeltmõrva on püütud mitut moodi seletada. Veel enne, kui pastor Meri ja tema koduabilise surnukehad leiti, kirjutas Soome ajaleht Hymy Enn Leissonile viidates, et Valve Kleini tappis pastor Harald Meri ise. Ajendiks olnud armukadedus. See konstruktsioon kukkus kokku 14. aprillil 1990, kui Toravere karjääri tagant metsast kaevati ühisest hauast välja nii Valve Kleini kui ka Harald Meri surnukeha."
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ENN LEISSONI arvates siis kaevas ise haua ehk isegi koos naisega, tappis naise armukadedusest ära, ajas mulla peale ning pani hauale risti ning viis auto ka koju tagasi!
Järgmisel päeval aga tõusis uuesti surnuist üles ning läks pani pastoraadi põlema!
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sama vöiks politsei käest uurida et miks pole algatatud kunagise advokaadi Toivo Laose tapmise uurimist Moskavas ,need jäljed viisid ju meie riigikokku kes olid sel ajal niiditömbajad,et nii siis käivatki meil asjad organites et kes vöimul sel öigus vöi kuidas.
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Miks Valitsus keelas uurimise?kes oli tellija, kas president?
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vanarahu
16.03.2013 13:45
Artikli autor on:
Mälupeetusega....
Koer polevat haukunud.... Mis tähendab polevat??? Ei haukunud??? Naabrid ei kuulnud???? Koer ise vaikne ja rahulik???
Mingid kaamerad...
Olid jah kaamerad kuid raha kokkuhoiu pärast välja lülitatud.
Paranoia:P
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Totuke - Kapist hauakaevaja
16.03.2013 13:52
TO "kaineks või võta roheline tablett ära!
Ja mis puutuvad siia " 1941 ja 1949 aasta võimulolijate ja küüditajate nimekirjad""!
Kas Sina oled üks neist 4000 eestis tegutsevast KGB agendist?
Mõrvauurimisgrupp moodustati juba enne kui olid laibad leitud! Kust üldse teati et nad tapetud on? KGBlane Enn Leisson uurimisgrupi ülemana . .naerukoht!
165 cm Arne Hiob ja 170cm väga kõhn Ennu Gansen mõrvariteks ja hauakaevajateks. Pole ühtki tõendit et Toravere karjääri sõideti just Meri enda Ziguliga. Selle tõestamiseks polnud vaja DNA ekspertiisi võimalusi! Kui Meri mõrvariteks olid Gansen ja Hiob siis kuidas hankisid nad Paide lihakombinaadist kolmveerand kotti kloorlupja?? Rist ja kuuseoksad viitavad küll kristlasest mõrvaritele kuid haua klooriga ülepuistamine välistab kristlased! VASTUOLU või kuidas? Meenutab nagu kellegi süüdi lavastamist? Pole siis ime et Gansen kohtus õigeks mõisteti ja Hiiobit kohtu alla ei antudki!
Muuseas .. .Hiiobi koolikaslased ei usu üksi et ta mõrvaks võimeline on ja tema alkoholilembus on ka kellegi väljamõeldis. Vene sõjaväest pääsemiseks on paljud end skisofreeniahulluks lasknud tembeldada ja et asi tõene paistaks käidi ka õnedki korrad ravil!:D Miskipärast tundub kogu see uurimine olevat keskendunud ainult ühele . . .valetada ja vassida et TÕELINE süüdlane päevavalgele ei tuleks!
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ju parvaev Estonia huku kohta ka ja salastati. . Pastori mõrvarid on vist ikka võimu juures olijad ja hunt hunti ei murra.
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Jaani kiriku õpetajad, üks vabamüürlane ja teine mõrva lähedal olnud inimene.
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"Türi topeltmõrva on püütud mitut moodi seletada. Veel enne, kui pastor Meri ja tema koduabilise surnukehad leiti, kirjutas Soome ajaleht Hymy Enn Leissonile viidates, et Valve Kleini tappis pastor Harald Meri ise. Ajendiks olnud armukadedus. See konstruktsioon kukkus kokku 14. aprillil 1990, kui Toravere karjääri tagant metsast kaevati ühisest hauast välja nii Valve Kleini kui ka Harald Meri surnukeha."
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ENN LEISSONI arvates siis kaevas ise haua ehk isegi koos naisega, tappis naise armukadedusest ära, ajas mulla peale ning pani hauale risti ning viis auto ka koju tagasi!
Järgmisel päeval aga tõusis uuesti surnuist üles ning läks pani pastoraadi põlema!
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sama vöiks politsei käest uurida et miks pole algatatud kunagise advokaadi Toivo Laose tapmise uurimist Moskavas ,need jäljed viisid ju meie riigikokku kes olid sel ajal niiditömbajad,et nii siis käivatki meil asjad organites et kes vöimul sel öigus vöi kuidas.
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Miks Valitsus keelas uurimise?kes oli tellija, kas president?
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2 April 2018 03:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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"18 aastat pastor Harald Meri hukkumisest
Praost Harald Meri matus aprillis 1990. Foto raamatust «Teine Eesti»
See on üks väheseid raamatuid, mida nüüd puhtast huvist olen lugenud. Dokumentaalne teos Eesti oma asjadest.
Stiili poolest põnevalt ja ladusalt kirja pandud. Lepassalu on aja jooksul ära teinud väga suure uurimistöö. Sellise «omaalgatusliku uurimise» eest, nagu ta seda raamatut nimetab, tuleks teda hea sõnaga tunnustada.
Uurimise tõest
Türi pastoraadi põlengust sai tuletõrje teate reedel, 6. aprillil 1990 kell 03.22. Sellest ajahetkest hakkas sündmustik hargnema. Laibad leiti tänu juhusele nädala pärast, 13. aprillil. 1990. aasta kevadel sai küll ajakirjandusest põnevusega ridu veeritud, et mis selgub. Jõhker kuritöö jäi ametlikult avastamata. Uurimine selles asjas lõpetati 1993. aastal, sest kõik võimalikud uurimistoimingud olid tehtud. 2000. aastast on see kuritegu aegunud, sest toimepanekust möödus 10 aastat.
Peamise põhjusena, miks uurimine seiskus, märgib Lepassalu valitsevate ringkondade huvi puudumist selle vastu. Keegi, ei KGB, riiklik prokuratuur ega rahvuslased, polnud sügavalt huvitatud, et uurimine tõeni jõuaks. ENSV Ülemnõukogu nn mõrvakomisjon omavahelise rivaalitsemisega pigem segas kui soodustas uurimist.
Lugedes tundus, et midagi uut raamatust ei selgu. Lepassalu varieerib ja moduleerib juba teadaolevaid asju. Seni teadmata fakt oli, et Tallinna piiri lähedal toimus rünne, ähvardus laipu (Harald Meri ja Valve Klein) vedanud veoautole UAZ, kus kaks musta Volgat ja kallur püüdsid laibamasinat kraavi suruda. Sellest rääkinud Lepassalule inimene, kes laibaautot roolis.
See oli laipade väljakaevamise päeval, laupäeval, 14. aprillil 1990. Tähendab, kuriteo osalistel pidi olema väga hea ja operatiivne informatsioon liikumisest. Kust see tuli? Tollal veel ilma mobiiltelefonide võrguta.
Kukkumise mütsatus
Minu meelest ei aita selle mõrva lahendamisele kaasa Endel Sõgeli ja Vello Vare elukäigu põhjalik kirjeldus. Kahtlused ja varjud küll, aga ei enamat. Samuti teenib rohkem kollektsioneerimise eesmärki Silver Anniko ja Johannes Vares-Barbaruse mõrva köitmine sellesse raamatusse.
Merit nähti viimati elavana 4. aprilli õhtul, kui pastoraadis toimus laulukoori proov. Sealt kutsutud pastor mitu korda telefoni juurde. Ilmselt sai ta ähvarduskõnesid. Meri palunud kirikuteener Andres Natusel järgmisel päeval valves olla (kus?), sest nemad Kleiniga peavad ära sõitma. Kuhu, seda ta Natusele ei öelnud.
Järgmise päeva hommikul, 5. aprillil 1990 kella 10 paiku läinud kohalik mees Reino Rähni pastoraadi ukse taha. Pärast koputamist kuulnud ta kellegi raskeid samme trepist alla tulemas ja kukkumise mütsatust. Seejärel jäänud kõik vaikseks. Rähni läinud minema, mõeldes, et näe kui ebaviisakad, ei lase tuttavat sisse. 5. aprillil keegi väidetavalt Merit ja Kleini ei näinud. 6. aprilli varahommikul põles pastoraat. Nii et isegi mõrva täpne aeg pole teada.
Teoses jääb avamata Valve Kleini liin. Kes oli Valve Klein, keda nimetatakse koduabiliseks ja majapidajaks? Raamatust saame teada, et ta oli sündinud 5. jaanuaril 1937, seega oli Merist 20 aastat noorem. Veel öeldakse, et nad elasid nagu mees ja naine ning et Klein oli hoolitseva maanaise musternäidis. Mismoodi toimus Meri lahkuminek oma esimesest naisest Noora Merist, kellega tal olid ühised lapsed Aet, Mihkel, Meeli, üllitisest ei selgu.
Kui kogu rahvas koondunuks
Raamatus joonistub välja Harald Meri iseloom. Impulsiivne, äge, põikpäine, allumatu jne. Noorusaegade ulja poksija kuvand saatis teda. Suheteklaarimine Valve Kleiniga, kui autoga öö läbi mööda Eestimaad ringi sõideti ja Harald ähvardas kaldast alla kihutada, ei tõmba just sümpaatiaga tema poole vaatama. Pastor oli tol 1989. aasta sügisel saamas 72aastaseks.
Raamatu lõpuosas, olles vestelnud umbes poolesaja Harald Merit tundnud inimesega, ütleb Lepassalu, et tal on õigus isiklikule arvamusele. Harald Meri mõrva tellis keegi libametsavendade, vangilaagri koputajate või kohalike reeturite hulgast, kes metsavendi üles andsid. Niisugustel oli ja on reetmine veres. Need tegelased esinesid aastail 1989–1990 suurte rahvuslastena. Meri paljastused mineviku kohta oleks nende maine hävitanud.
Harald Meri öelnud Kautla mälestusmärgi avamisel 1989 kuulsa lause, et neist kõige punasematest on saanud kõige sinimustvalgemad. 1990. a kevadel, veel enne Meri kavatsetud sõitu sõpruskogudusse Soomes, hakkas KGBga seotud kohalikel reeturitel ühtäkki väga kiire. Mõrva tegelikud täideviijad ehk «karistuskomando» tellitud Venemaa vangilaagreist.
Mõrva lõplik lahendamine olnuks võimalik, kui selleks koondunuks kogu rahvas. Kui kogu rahvas… Nagu II maailmasõja järel tunti igas vuntsidega mehes ära Adolf Hitlerit. Laibad leitigi kiiresti just tänu üldrahvalikule ärevusele ja valvsusele. Kuid rahvas on killustunud, tuimunud, väsinud, umbusklik.
Kõige hävitavam, mis nõukogude aeg tegi, on usalduse igasugune kadumine. Mõned tunnistajad on hiljem oma tunnistust muutnud. Möödunud 18 aasta jooksul on palju vanemaid inimesi meie hulgast lahkunud ja uurimine muutub järjest lootusetumaks. Ning lõpuks – kes seda nii väga tahabki?
Võiks ju pöörduda sensitiivide poole, keda Eestis olevat omajagu. Mida nemad näevad vaimude väljas? Info möödaläinud sündmuste kohta hõljub üleval väga kauge ajani tagasi. Kontrolliks saab võrrelda kolme või viit nägemust. Üksi tulevikusündmused on Jumala ainuteada.
Rannar Susi "
"18 aastat pastor Harald Meri hukkumisest
Praost Harald Meri matus aprillis 1990. Foto raamatust «Teine Eesti»
See on üks väheseid raamatuid, mida nüüd puhtast huvist olen lugenud. Dokumentaalne teos Eesti oma asjadest.
Stiili poolest põnevalt ja ladusalt kirja pandud. Lepassalu on aja jooksul ära teinud väga suure uurimistöö. Sellise «omaalgatusliku uurimise» eest, nagu ta seda raamatut nimetab, tuleks teda hea sõnaga tunnustada.
Uurimise tõest
Türi pastoraadi põlengust sai tuletõrje teate reedel, 6. aprillil 1990 kell 03.22. Sellest ajahetkest hakkas sündmustik hargnema. Laibad leiti tänu juhusele nädala pärast, 13. aprillil. 1990. aasta kevadel sai küll ajakirjandusest põnevusega ridu veeritud, et mis selgub. Jõhker kuritöö jäi ametlikult avastamata. Uurimine selles asjas lõpetati 1993. aastal, sest kõik võimalikud uurimistoimingud olid tehtud. 2000. aastast on see kuritegu aegunud, sest toimepanekust möödus 10 aastat.
Peamise põhjusena, miks uurimine seiskus, märgib Lepassalu valitsevate ringkondade huvi puudumist selle vastu. Keegi, ei KGB, riiklik prokuratuur ega rahvuslased, polnud sügavalt huvitatud, et uurimine tõeni jõuaks. ENSV Ülemnõukogu nn mõrvakomisjon omavahelise rivaalitsemisega pigem segas kui soodustas uurimist.
Lugedes tundus, et midagi uut raamatust ei selgu. Lepassalu varieerib ja moduleerib juba teadaolevaid asju. Seni teadmata fakt oli, et Tallinna piiri lähedal toimus rünne, ähvardus laipu (Harald Meri ja Valve Klein) vedanud veoautole UAZ, kus kaks musta Volgat ja kallur püüdsid laibamasinat kraavi suruda. Sellest rääkinud Lepassalule inimene, kes laibaautot roolis.
See oli laipade väljakaevamise päeval, laupäeval, 14. aprillil 1990. Tähendab, kuriteo osalistel pidi olema väga hea ja operatiivne informatsioon liikumisest. Kust see tuli? Tollal veel ilma mobiiltelefonide võrguta.
Kukkumise mütsatus
Minu meelest ei aita selle mõrva lahendamisele kaasa Endel Sõgeli ja Vello Vare elukäigu põhjalik kirjeldus. Kahtlused ja varjud küll, aga ei enamat. Samuti teenib rohkem kollektsioneerimise eesmärki Silver Anniko ja Johannes Vares-Barbaruse mõrva köitmine sellesse raamatusse.
Merit nähti viimati elavana 4. aprilli õhtul, kui pastoraadis toimus laulukoori proov. Sealt kutsutud pastor mitu korda telefoni juurde. Ilmselt sai ta ähvarduskõnesid. Meri palunud kirikuteener Andres Natusel järgmisel päeval valves olla (kus?), sest nemad Kleiniga peavad ära sõitma. Kuhu, seda ta Natusele ei öelnud.
Järgmise päeva hommikul, 5. aprillil 1990 kella 10 paiku läinud kohalik mees Reino Rähni pastoraadi ukse taha. Pärast koputamist kuulnud ta kellegi raskeid samme trepist alla tulemas ja kukkumise mütsatust. Seejärel jäänud kõik vaikseks. Rähni läinud minema, mõeldes, et näe kui ebaviisakad, ei lase tuttavat sisse. 5. aprillil keegi väidetavalt Merit ja Kleini ei näinud. 6. aprilli varahommikul põles pastoraat. Nii et isegi mõrva täpne aeg pole teada.
Teoses jääb avamata Valve Kleini liin. Kes oli Valve Klein, keda nimetatakse koduabiliseks ja majapidajaks? Raamatust saame teada, et ta oli sündinud 5. jaanuaril 1937, seega oli Merist 20 aastat noorem. Veel öeldakse, et nad elasid nagu mees ja naine ning et Klein oli hoolitseva maanaise musternäidis. Mismoodi toimus Meri lahkuminek oma esimesest naisest Noora Merist, kellega tal olid ühised lapsed Aet, Mihkel, Meeli, üllitisest ei selgu.
Kui kogu rahvas koondunuks
Raamatus joonistub välja Harald Meri iseloom. Impulsiivne, äge, põikpäine, allumatu jne. Noorusaegade ulja poksija kuvand saatis teda. Suheteklaarimine Valve Kleiniga, kui autoga öö läbi mööda Eestimaad ringi sõideti ja Harald ähvardas kaldast alla kihutada, ei tõmba just sümpaatiaga tema poole vaatama. Pastor oli tol 1989. aasta sügisel saamas 72aastaseks.
Raamatu lõpuosas, olles vestelnud umbes poolesaja Harald Merit tundnud inimesega, ütleb Lepassalu, et tal on õigus isiklikule arvamusele. Harald Meri mõrva tellis keegi libametsavendade, vangilaagri koputajate või kohalike reeturite hulgast, kes metsavendi üles andsid. Niisugustel oli ja on reetmine veres. Need tegelased esinesid aastail 1989–1990 suurte rahvuslastena. Meri paljastused mineviku kohta oleks nende maine hävitanud.
Harald Meri öelnud Kautla mälestusmärgi avamisel 1989 kuulsa lause, et neist kõige punasematest on saanud kõige sinimustvalgemad. 1990. a kevadel, veel enne Meri kavatsetud sõitu sõpruskogudusse Soomes, hakkas KGBga seotud kohalikel reeturitel ühtäkki väga kiire. Mõrva tegelikud täideviijad ehk «karistuskomando» tellitud Venemaa vangilaagreist.
Mõrva lõplik lahendamine olnuks võimalik, kui selleks koondunuks kogu rahvas. Kui kogu rahvas… Nagu II maailmasõja järel tunti igas vuntsidega mehes ära Adolf Hitlerit. Laibad leitigi kiiresti just tänu üldrahvalikule ärevusele ja valvsusele. Kuid rahvas on killustunud, tuimunud, väsinud, umbusklik.
Kõige hävitavam, mis nõukogude aeg tegi, on usalduse igasugune kadumine. Mõned tunnistajad on hiljem oma tunnistust muutnud. Möödunud 18 aasta jooksul on palju vanemaid inimesi meie hulgast lahkunud ja uurimine muutub järjest lootusetumaks. Ning lõpuks – kes seda nii väga tahabki?
Võiks ju pöörduda sensitiivide poole, keda Eestis olevat omajagu. Mida nemad näevad vaimude väljas? Info möödaläinud sündmuste kohta hõljub üleval väga kauge ajani tagasi. Kontrolliks saab võrrelda kolme või viit nägemust. Üksi tulevikusündmused on Jumala ainuteada.
Rannar Susi "
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2 April 2018 02:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Hävituspataljoni jõhkrad tapatalgud
Et enamlaste eesmärk jäi saavutamata, korraldasid hävituspataljonid Kautla ruumis ja Ardus jubedad tapatalgud. Juba 31. juuli õhtul mõrvati Voose küla Sae metsavahitalu pere Jüri ja Leena Raudkivi. Hooned põletati. Ahervarest leiti voodi külge seotuna tulle jäetud mõrvaohvrite surnukehad.
Järgmisena võeti ette Kautla talu, kus pandi toime jõhker sõjakuritegu. Kautlas mõrvati 7 inimest, kellest osa heideti elusalt tulle (kõik suurtalu hooned süüdati), osa tapeti muul moel. Nii peksti talu rohtaias läbi töömees Oskar Mallene. Seejärel löödi ta läbi suu lehma karjatamise metallvaiaga maa külge kinni. Veidi aja pärast kallati surmaagoonias mees bensiiniga üle ja pandi põlema. Ka talu perepoeg Johannes Lindemann kallati pärast peksmist ja piinamist, mida hiljem raportis nimetati ülekuulamiseks, bensiiniga üle ja süüdati elusalt põlema. Karjamaalt lehmade lüpsmiselt naasev elupõline taluteenija, 60-aastane Ida Hallorav keeldus hävituspataljonlastele piima andmast. Karistuseks võeti tal käsist-jalust kinni, õõtsutati edasi-tagasi ja visati elusalt põlevasse elamusse.
Kautlast mindi edasi taludesse, kus oli toidetud metsavendi, ning süüdati ka need: Selisaare, Vanamõisa, Patti, Kauna ja teised. Mustla külas last maha 7 meest. Kautla piirkonnas tapeti üle kümne inimese.
5.-6. augustil jätkus hävitustöö Ardu lähistel. Süüdati enamik tänasest Nõmmeri (toona Nõmmeküla) külast Ardu külje all. Samuti põletati strateegilisteks objektideks nimetatud Ardu koolimaja, puidust vana koolimaja nimega Koolirehi, Ardu meierei, Paunküla viinaköök. Mahapõletatud Metsa talu aida ahervaremetest leiti veel hiljem A. Aageni säilmed. Nagu peatselt selgus, ka teda "kuulati" põhjalikult üle ja seejärel põletati elusalt. Siinkohal on paslik rõhutada, et hävituspataljoni meeste seas oli väga suur osa eesti rahvusest punameelseid. Oli ka venelasi ja lätlasi.
Kautla memoriaal
Esimene mälestusmärk rajati juba aasta hiljem ning avati pidulikult 19. juulil 1941. 1945.a see hävitati. Uus mälestuskivi paigutati Kautla juurtega Jüri Liimi eestvedamisel 22. aprillil 1989. Poolteist kuud hiljem, septembris hävitati Kautla memoriaal punavandaalide poolt. Mälestustahvlid olid puruks pekstud, kivid värviga üle kallatud ning sündmuskohale jäetud paber sõnumiga: „Surm Jüri Liimile". Kautla memoriaali taasavamine toimus 4. augustil 1990. Ööl vastu 5. detsembrit 1990 saadeti Kautlasse Vene sõjaväekolonn. Tapalt Albu kaudu soomukite julgestusel kohale sõitnud sapöörid õhkisid memoriaali, nii et mälestussamba tükke oli leida paarisaja meetri kauguselgi. Moskvasse saadeti raport: „Seltsimees kaitseminister Jažov. Teie käsk on täidetud - Kautla objekt on hävitatud!". Uuesti avati Kautla memoriaal 31. juulil 1999.
Sel aastal on Kautla memoriaali hoidmisel jõud ühendanud mitmed kohalikud mehed ja naised, kes olid püstitanud lipumasti ning niitnud puhtaks terve memoriaali ala. Nende tublide inimeste hulka kuuluva Silmsi külavanema Sulev Piirsalu sõnul kaalutakse ka oma seltsi asutamist ning koostöös Kaitseliidu ja Erna seltsiga edaspidi memoriaali eest hoolitsemist korraldada.
Hävituspataljoni jõhkrad tapatalgud
Et enamlaste eesmärk jäi saavutamata, korraldasid hävituspataljonid Kautla ruumis ja Ardus jubedad tapatalgud. Juba 31. juuli õhtul mõrvati Voose küla Sae metsavahitalu pere Jüri ja Leena Raudkivi. Hooned põletati. Ahervarest leiti voodi külge seotuna tulle jäetud mõrvaohvrite surnukehad.
Järgmisena võeti ette Kautla talu, kus pandi toime jõhker sõjakuritegu. Kautlas mõrvati 7 inimest, kellest osa heideti elusalt tulle (kõik suurtalu hooned süüdati), osa tapeti muul moel. Nii peksti talu rohtaias läbi töömees Oskar Mallene. Seejärel löödi ta läbi suu lehma karjatamise metallvaiaga maa külge kinni. Veidi aja pärast kallati surmaagoonias mees bensiiniga üle ja pandi põlema. Ka talu perepoeg Johannes Lindemann kallati pärast peksmist ja piinamist, mida hiljem raportis nimetati ülekuulamiseks, bensiiniga üle ja süüdati elusalt põlema. Karjamaalt lehmade lüpsmiselt naasev elupõline taluteenija, 60-aastane Ida Hallorav keeldus hävituspataljonlastele piima andmast. Karistuseks võeti tal käsist-jalust kinni, õõtsutati edasi-tagasi ja visati elusalt põlevasse elamusse.
Kautlast mindi edasi taludesse, kus oli toidetud metsavendi, ning süüdati ka need: Selisaare, Vanamõisa, Patti, Kauna ja teised. Mustla külas last maha 7 meest. Kautla piirkonnas tapeti üle kümne inimese.
5.-6. augustil jätkus hävitustöö Ardu lähistel. Süüdati enamik tänasest Nõmmeri (toona Nõmmeküla) külast Ardu külje all. Samuti põletati strateegilisteks objektideks nimetatud Ardu koolimaja, puidust vana koolimaja nimega Koolirehi, Ardu meierei, Paunküla viinaköök. Mahapõletatud Metsa talu aida ahervaremetest leiti veel hiljem A. Aageni säilmed. Nagu peatselt selgus, ka teda "kuulati" põhjalikult üle ja seejärel põletati elusalt. Siinkohal on paslik rõhutada, et hävituspataljoni meeste seas oli väga suur osa eesti rahvusest punameelseid. Oli ka venelasi ja lätlasi.
Kautla memoriaal
Esimene mälestusmärk rajati juba aasta hiljem ning avati pidulikult 19. juulil 1941. 1945.a see hävitati. Uus mälestuskivi paigutati Kautla juurtega Jüri Liimi eestvedamisel 22. aprillil 1989. Poolteist kuud hiljem, septembris hävitati Kautla memoriaal punavandaalide poolt. Mälestustahvlid olid puruks pekstud, kivid värviga üle kallatud ning sündmuskohale jäetud paber sõnumiga: „Surm Jüri Liimile". Kautla memoriaali taasavamine toimus 4. augustil 1990. Ööl vastu 5. detsembrit 1990 saadeti Kautlasse Vene sõjaväekolonn. Tapalt Albu kaudu soomukite julgestusel kohale sõitnud sapöörid õhkisid memoriaali, nii et mälestussamba tükke oli leida paarisaja meetri kauguselgi. Moskvasse saadeti raport: „Seltsimees kaitseminister Jažov. Teie käsk on täidetud - Kautla objekt on hävitatud!". Uuesti avati Kautla memoriaal 31. juulil 1999.
Sel aastal on Kautla memoriaali hoidmisel jõud ühendanud mitmed kohalikud mehed ja naised, kes olid püstitanud lipumasti ning niitnud puhtaks terve memoriaali ala. Nende tublide inimeste hulka kuuluva Silmsi külavanema Sulev Piirsalu sõnul kaalutakse ka oma seltsi asutamist ning koostöös Kaitseliidu ja Erna seltsiga edaspidi memoriaali eest hoolitsemist korraldada.
2 April 2018 02:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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//M.Mikiver Herbert Lindmäe raamatu „Suvesõda Järvamaal 1941" ning Jüri Liimi artikli „Kautla lahingud" Kultuur ja Elu 4/2006 põhjal//
2. augustil toimus Kautlas pidulik aktus. "ERNA Retk 2011" korraldajad ning võistkondade esindajad mälestasid Kautla memoriaali juures 1941.a sõjasuvel punaarmee poolt mõrvatud sõjapõgenikke ja kohalikku rahvast. Brigaadikindral Riho Terras ja kolonelleitnant Raivo Lumiste asetasid memoriaalile Kaitseväe ja kaitseliidu pärjad.
Mis tegelikult toimus 70 aasta eest Kautla ruumis?
1941. a. suvel oli nõukogude võim kehtinud Eestis juba tervelt aasta. 14. juunil 1941 oli toimunud juuniküüditamine, kümneid tuhandeid inimesi oli viidud Siberisse. Juba enne oli palju mehi metsa põgenenud. Euroopas kääris, kui ühel pool „möllas" Stalin, siis teisel pool Hitler. Pärast Saksamaa kallaletungi NSVL-le kuulutas Stalin 3. juulil 1941 kurikuulsas raadiokõnes välja põletatud maa taktika - vaenlasele jäetaval alal taganemisel tuli hävitada kõik ressursid. Eestis jäi see ülesanne hävituspataljonidele.
Saksa ja Soome raadiost edastati üleskutseid Eesti ohvitseridele ja sõduritele põgeneda metsadesse ja asuda võitlema Eesti vabaduse eest. Nii otsustasidki Tapalt põgeneda mõniteist ratsaväelast, asudes laagrisse Kautla soosaarel.
Samal ajal valmistati Soomes lähetama missioonile Erna gruppi. Nimelt oli sama aasta kevadel Soome sõjaväeluure teenistuse poolt valitud Eestist vabatahtlikke ja saadetud väljaõppele. 23. juunil 1941, pärast Saksamaa ja NSV Liidu sõja algust, koguti kokku väljaõppel osalenud mehed, et moodustada Soome relvajõududesse kuuluv vabatahtlike rühmitus osalemaks Eesti vabastamisel enamlastest. Erna grupi ülesanne pidi olema luureandmete edastamine Soome ning võimalusel ka Punaarmee tagala häirimine. Formeeriti 65-meheline grupp julgetest meestest, kes olid Soome põgenenud, mõned ka osalenud Soome Talvesõjas.
Erna dessant
9. juulil sõitsid ligi 40 meest Erna grupist üle mere teele, randudes Salmistu all ning asudes tasahilju liikuma sisemaa poole. Paunküla kandis kohatud metsavennad juhatasid ernakad 19. juulil Mustla-Vanamõisa metsa, kus Kautla soosaarel oli punaväest pagenud ratsaväelaste laagripaik. Lähipäevil kogunes sinna veel metsavendi ja nende pereliikmeid, kuni Kautla piirkonnas oli 1500-2000 inimest laagris, peale Kõue valla ka Järvamaalt - Albu, Käru, Kareda, Paide, Väätsa ja Võhmuta kandist. Tegu oli justkui riigiga riigis - laagris oli oma kindel kord, kõik teed ja sillad 50 km ulatuses olid valve all, lahinguvarustust saadi Soome õhusilla kaudu.
Sama teed mööda ehk teisisõnu langevarjudega saabusid kuu lõpus ka veel Soome jäänud ernakad. Suur tegemine oli kogu selle rahva , keda oli enam kui tänase seisuga inimesi terves Kõue vallas, toitlustamine. Paljud pered olid seetõttu oma pudulojusedki kaasa võtnud. Metsas olnute mälestuste järgi varustasid neid ka Ardu, Ravila jt külad. Mälestustes on näiteks kirjas, et „Raava külast saadeti Kautlasse kast mune, ilma et saatjad oleks nende eest mingit tasu tahtnud. See oli vaid väike annetus kodumaa vabaduse heaks".
Simisalu kaksikmõrv, Albu vallamaja ründamine ning enamlaste suurhaarang Kautlale
24. juulil vapustas Kautla sisse Simisalu talus toimunud kaksikmõrv. Hävituspataljoni mehed tapsid kättemaksuks metsavendade abistamise eest Simisalu talu pere Gustav ja Rosalie Viljamaa ning talu pandi põlema. Paiknedes üsna „Tõe ja õiguse" tegevuspaiga Vargamäe lähedal, oli Simisalu talu Tammsaare tegelaskuju Hundipalu Tiidu prototüübi tegelik kodu.
Kättemaksuks proovisid metsavennad hävitada Albu vallamajas asunud punaste tugipunkti, kuid puudulike luureandmete tõttu ei toonud lahing soovitud edu. Kautla sissid olid tulistanud ka teedel liikuvaid punaväe autosid ja kolonne, tappes varem ka Ardusse suundunud sõjatribunali ohvitsere.
Seetõttu toimus 31. juulil 1941 enamlaste suurhaarang, mille käigus plaaniti Albu, Kõue ja Ravila vallas asuval alal paiknevad ernakad ja metsavennad sisse piirata ja hävitada. 4. Tallinna hävituspataljoni komandör leitnant E. Kostabi sõnul „oli see operatsioon aga järgmise suure operatsiooni alguseks terve Kose-Juuru ja Järva-Madise rajooni puhastamise loos, kus operatiivstaabi andmetel pidi tegutsema 2 suuremat parašütistide salka. Üks Mahtra- Kirivalla-Särge vahelisel sool, teine - Paunküla-Kõrvenurga-Kautla metsades ja kolmas - Viise-Järva-Madise vahelisel sool."
Kautla sissid ja metsavennad suutsid lahingutes enamlasi siiski nii kaua kinni hoida, et Kautla laagripõgenikud said evakueeruda. Et põgenemine sai toimuda suurtes karavanides mööda soid ja rabasid - sest kõik väljaviivad teed olid ohtlikud - oli tegu tõsiselt keeruka logistilise operatsiooniga, mis õnneks siiski läks korda. Langenuid oli mõistagi mõlemal poolel. Langes ka Kõue valla päritolu ernakas leinant Oleg Marnot.
//M.Mikiver Herbert Lindmäe raamatu „Suvesõda Järvamaal 1941" ning Jüri Liimi artikli „Kautla lahingud" Kultuur ja Elu 4/2006 põhjal//
2. augustil toimus Kautlas pidulik aktus. "ERNA Retk 2011" korraldajad ning võistkondade esindajad mälestasid Kautla memoriaali juures 1941.a sõjasuvel punaarmee poolt mõrvatud sõjapõgenikke ja kohalikku rahvast. Brigaadikindral Riho Terras ja kolonelleitnant Raivo Lumiste asetasid memoriaalile Kaitseväe ja kaitseliidu pärjad.
Mis tegelikult toimus 70 aasta eest Kautla ruumis?
1941. a. suvel oli nõukogude võim kehtinud Eestis juba tervelt aasta. 14. juunil 1941 oli toimunud juuniküüditamine, kümneid tuhandeid inimesi oli viidud Siberisse. Juba enne oli palju mehi metsa põgenenud. Euroopas kääris, kui ühel pool „möllas" Stalin, siis teisel pool Hitler. Pärast Saksamaa kallaletungi NSVL-le kuulutas Stalin 3. juulil 1941 kurikuulsas raadiokõnes välja põletatud maa taktika - vaenlasele jäetaval alal taganemisel tuli hävitada kõik ressursid. Eestis jäi see ülesanne hävituspataljonidele.
Saksa ja Soome raadiost edastati üleskutseid Eesti ohvitseridele ja sõduritele põgeneda metsadesse ja asuda võitlema Eesti vabaduse eest. Nii otsustasidki Tapalt põgeneda mõniteist ratsaväelast, asudes laagrisse Kautla soosaarel.
Samal ajal valmistati Soomes lähetama missioonile Erna gruppi. Nimelt oli sama aasta kevadel Soome sõjaväeluure teenistuse poolt valitud Eestist vabatahtlikke ja saadetud väljaõppele. 23. juunil 1941, pärast Saksamaa ja NSV Liidu sõja algust, koguti kokku väljaõppel osalenud mehed, et moodustada Soome relvajõududesse kuuluv vabatahtlike rühmitus osalemaks Eesti vabastamisel enamlastest. Erna grupi ülesanne pidi olema luureandmete edastamine Soome ning võimalusel ka Punaarmee tagala häirimine. Formeeriti 65-meheline grupp julgetest meestest, kes olid Soome põgenenud, mõned ka osalenud Soome Talvesõjas.
Erna dessant
9. juulil sõitsid ligi 40 meest Erna grupist üle mere teele, randudes Salmistu all ning asudes tasahilju liikuma sisemaa poole. Paunküla kandis kohatud metsavennad juhatasid ernakad 19. juulil Mustla-Vanamõisa metsa, kus Kautla soosaarel oli punaväest pagenud ratsaväelaste laagripaik. Lähipäevil kogunes sinna veel metsavendi ja nende pereliikmeid, kuni Kautla piirkonnas oli 1500-2000 inimest laagris, peale Kõue valla ka Järvamaalt - Albu, Käru, Kareda, Paide, Väätsa ja Võhmuta kandist. Tegu oli justkui riigiga riigis - laagris oli oma kindel kord, kõik teed ja sillad 50 km ulatuses olid valve all, lahinguvarustust saadi Soome õhusilla kaudu.
Sama teed mööda ehk teisisõnu langevarjudega saabusid kuu lõpus ka veel Soome jäänud ernakad. Suur tegemine oli kogu selle rahva , keda oli enam kui tänase seisuga inimesi terves Kõue vallas, toitlustamine. Paljud pered olid seetõttu oma pudulojusedki kaasa võtnud. Metsas olnute mälestuste järgi varustasid neid ka Ardu, Ravila jt külad. Mälestustes on näiteks kirjas, et „Raava külast saadeti Kautlasse kast mune, ilma et saatjad oleks nende eest mingit tasu tahtnud. See oli vaid väike annetus kodumaa vabaduse heaks".
Simisalu kaksikmõrv, Albu vallamaja ründamine ning enamlaste suurhaarang Kautlale
24. juulil vapustas Kautla sisse Simisalu talus toimunud kaksikmõrv. Hävituspataljoni mehed tapsid kättemaksuks metsavendade abistamise eest Simisalu talu pere Gustav ja Rosalie Viljamaa ning talu pandi põlema. Paiknedes üsna „Tõe ja õiguse" tegevuspaiga Vargamäe lähedal, oli Simisalu talu Tammsaare tegelaskuju Hundipalu Tiidu prototüübi tegelik kodu.
Kättemaksuks proovisid metsavennad hävitada Albu vallamajas asunud punaste tugipunkti, kuid puudulike luureandmete tõttu ei toonud lahing soovitud edu. Kautla sissid olid tulistanud ka teedel liikuvaid punaväe autosid ja kolonne, tappes varem ka Ardusse suundunud sõjatribunali ohvitsere.
Seetõttu toimus 31. juulil 1941 enamlaste suurhaarang, mille käigus plaaniti Albu, Kõue ja Ravila vallas asuval alal paiknevad ernakad ja metsavennad sisse piirata ja hävitada. 4. Tallinna hävituspataljoni komandör leitnant E. Kostabi sõnul „oli see operatsioon aga järgmise suure operatsiooni alguseks terve Kose-Juuru ja Järva-Madise rajooni puhastamise loos, kus operatiivstaabi andmetel pidi tegutsema 2 suuremat parašütistide salka. Üks Mahtra- Kirivalla-Särge vahelisel sool, teine - Paunküla-Kõrvenurga-Kautla metsades ja kolmas - Viise-Järva-Madise vahelisel sool."
Kautla sissid ja metsavennad suutsid lahingutes enamlasi siiski nii kaua kinni hoida, et Kautla laagripõgenikud said evakueeruda. Et põgenemine sai toimuda suurtes karavanides mööda soid ja rabasid - sest kõik väljaviivad teed olid ohtlikud - oli tegu tõsiselt keeruka logistilise operatsiooniga, mis õnneks siiski läks korda. Langenuid oli mõistagi mõlemal poolel. Langes ka Kõue valla päritolu ernakas leinant Oleg Marnot.
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2 April 2018 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Harald Meri ja Valve Kleini topeltmõrv on üks Eesti kriminaalajaloo lahendamata müsteeriume
19.11.2017 19:40
Helen Mandel
27 aastat tagasi mõrvati julmalt Türi pastor Harald Meri ja tema koduabiline Valve Klein.
1990. aasta aprillikuus leiti Toravere karjääri tagant ühisest hauast pastor Harald Meri ja ta koduabilise Valve Kleini surnukehad. See laialt kajastatud kuritegu on tänaseni avastamata.
Järvamaa praost Harald Meri ja tema koduabiline Valve Klein tapeti ööl vastu 5. aprilli 1990. aastal. Järgmisel ööl süüdati Türi pastoraadihoone, kus Meri ja Klein elasid.
11. aprillil avastas Toravere karjääris töötanud kopajuht karjäärist Meri portfelli ning kaks päeva hiljem leiti karjäärist sadakonna meetri kauguselt ühishaud, kuhu olid Meri ja Kleini surnukehad maetud.
Ametlik uurimine on ammu läbi. Mõrva ajal kehtis meie riigis ENSV kriminaalkoodeks, mille järgi pandi paika ka kuriteo aegumise tähtaeg.
Ajakirjanikest on teemaga tegelenud väga tõsiselt Virkko Lepassalu, kes on ka praegu ajakirjanik ja publitsist ning Raivo Palmaru, kellest hiljem sai Eesti Vabariigi kultuuriminister. Lepassalu kirjutas mõrvauurimisest raamatus „Valusalt valge”.
Raivo Palmaru avas mõrva uurimise tagamaid toonases uuriva ajakirjanduse lipulaevas, ajakirjas „Luup” ja kirjutas nii: „Veel enne pastori ja tema koduabilise surnukehade leidmist moodustati tollase ülemnõukogu erikomisjon, kuhu kuulusid Villu Jürjo, Jüri Liim, Rein Järlik, Uno Ugandi, Mart Laar ja Enn Leisson. Esimestest päevadest alates puhkes selles väiklane võitlus Eesti Komitee ja Rahvarinde tegelaste vahel. Mõlemad ajasid kaksikmõrva uurimise varjus oma poliitikat ja andsid kuriteole poliitilise fooni. See murdis peagi uurimise selgroo.”
Seotus KGB-ga?
Mart Laar ja Jüri Liim pooldasid seisukohta, et Harald Meri oli vabadusvõitleja, kes tapeti KGB ülesandel, sest tema käes olnud nimekirjad represseerijate kohta, kes küüditasid ja hävitasid eestlasi 40ndatel aastatel. Sama veendumuse juurde jäi Mart Laar ka hiljem peaministrina, kui tal tuli vabadusvõitleja Mart Nikluse küsimustele vastata.
Toonane tipp-uurija Koit Pikaro aga on kinnitanud, et tema seda vabadusvõitluse liini ei usu.
Tema arvates arvates pärinevad jutud nimekirja või koguni arhiivi olemasolust Harald Merilt endalt. «Meri oli jutumees, kes pidas end suuremaks poliitikuks kui ta tegelikult oli,» rääkis Pikaro üheksa aastat pärast mõrva. «Olen üsna kindel, et mingeid nimekirju ei ole tal kunagi olnud.»
Raivo Palmaru kahtlustas ühe võimaliku roimarina teoloogiadoktor Arne Hiobit, kellel olnuks ametialane motiiv. Arutati ka võimaluse üle, et Hiobi abiliseks olnud röövmõrtsukas Ennu Gansen. Hilisem uurimine on selle liini aga ümber lükanud ning teoloogiadoktor Hiob ega ka mitte Gansen pole kunagi olnud isegi mitte ametlikult kahtlustatavate nimekirjas.
Juhid vahetusid, info hajus
Pastor Harald Meri ja Valve Kleini mõrva uurimist iseloomustab väga palju segadust. Osa sellest on kindlasti poliitiline, nagu sellal kõik meie riigis oli.
1990. aasta 10. aprillil algatati kriminaalasi, mis esialgu oli tollase ENSV prokuratuuri eriti tähtsate asjade uurija Aksel Onki menetluses. Ehkki mõrva uurides on kõige olulisem just värske informatsioon, ei lastud Onkil oma tööd teha.
Juba 17. aprillil avaldas erikomisjon talle umbusaldust, sest Onk olevat «kõikide versioonide kõrval pööranud põhjendamatult vähe tähelepanu mõrva poliitilise suuna võimalikkusele». 19. aprillil nõudis Onki tagandamist ka Eesti Komitee.
Poliitilise surve all määrati uurimisgrupi uueks juhiks Alar Kirs, kes oma eelkäija vigu ei korranud. Ta järgis püüdlikult komisjoni näpunäiteid. Need aga ei viinud kuhugi ja komisjoniliikmete tegutsemispalang soikus. Uurija jaoks oli õige aeg mööda lastud.
Seoses menetluskoodeksi muutmisega anti kriminaalasi 1993. aasta 7. mail üle keskuurimisbüroole ja sama aasta 4. juunil menetlus peatati kuni süüdistatava isiku kindlakstegemiseni. Peatatud kriminaalasi anti Pärnu raskete isikuvastaste kuritegude uurimisgrupile, mida juhtis Urmas Krüger.
Krügeri meenutust mööda paistis uurimise heitlikkus talle üle antud materjalist otsekohe silma: hüpatud oli ühelt teemalt teisele, tähelepanu oli pööratud peamiselt poliitilisele motiivile. Oli ilmne, et uurijad ei saanud oma liini lõpuni ajada. «Mul on neist uurijatest kahju,» tõdes Krüger.
Asja uurimist takistas seegi, et Krüger ei pääsenud ligi operatiivtoimikule: «Ma ei vallanud kogu kriminaalasja kohta käivat infot. Jälitustoimik oli Pikaro käsutuses ja paraku puudus meie vahel usalduslik koostöö.»
Krüger lahkus 1997. aastal politseist ja pastori mõrva toimikud koguvad tänaseni kusagil raudkapis tolmu.
Mälestadagi on raske
Vähe sellest, et uurimine jooksis liiva... Värskeid jälgi üles ei võetud, hiljem aga ajas üks segadus teist taga – ka mõrvatute mälestamist on püütud teha võimalikult keeruliseks.
Nii näiteks üritas selle maatüki omanik, kuhu hukkunutele mälestuskivi on püstitatud, sulgeda mõrvapaigale viivat teed.
Tige maaomanik ajas oma traktori tee peale, kui keegi üritas mälestuskivi juurde minna ning on jõhkralt läbi sõimanud koguni hilisema Järvamaa praosti Teet Hanschmidti.
Niisiis, mõrva on uuritud tipptasemel, kuid peale hulga kuulujuttude pole midagi saavutatud. Nii sündis idee – anname võimaluse Harald Meri surmast kõneleda ühele „Selgeltnägijate tuleproovi” osalejale.
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//tellitud laimukad teema perversussele viimaks, et ei saaks tõsimeelselt suhelda ja inimestel meelsus kaoks :
andres salum
pastorihärraga oli kunagi põgusaid kokkupuuteid, kiitles oma armusuhetega, neid "koduabilisi" oli tal terve hulk, arvasin juba toona, et mõni armukade mees või naine neile otsa peale tegi.
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ja ja ka AASMÄE ARDO sattus samade politrukkide-zampoliyidele OHUALIKAKS???
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Uurija
Kohe asi Hillar Kohvi kätte! Tema teab vastuseid
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Fakt
Tean ühte geimeest, kes tapeti 90-ndatel ka sellepärast, et omas suurt kogumikku neist, kes on Eestis seksuaalvähemused.
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Harald Meri ja Valve Kleini topeltmõrv on üks Eesti kriminaalajaloo lahendamata müsteeriume
19.11.2017 19:40
Helen Mandel
27 aastat tagasi mõrvati julmalt Türi pastor Harald Meri ja tema koduabiline Valve Klein.
1990. aasta aprillikuus leiti Toravere karjääri tagant ühisest hauast pastor Harald Meri ja ta koduabilise Valve Kleini surnukehad. See laialt kajastatud kuritegu on tänaseni avastamata.
Järvamaa praost Harald Meri ja tema koduabiline Valve Klein tapeti ööl vastu 5. aprilli 1990. aastal. Järgmisel ööl süüdati Türi pastoraadihoone, kus Meri ja Klein elasid.
11. aprillil avastas Toravere karjääris töötanud kopajuht karjäärist Meri portfelli ning kaks päeva hiljem leiti karjäärist sadakonna meetri kauguselt ühishaud, kuhu olid Meri ja Kleini surnukehad maetud.
Ametlik uurimine on ammu läbi. Mõrva ajal kehtis meie riigis ENSV kriminaalkoodeks, mille järgi pandi paika ka kuriteo aegumise tähtaeg.
Ajakirjanikest on teemaga tegelenud väga tõsiselt Virkko Lepassalu, kes on ka praegu ajakirjanik ja publitsist ning Raivo Palmaru, kellest hiljem sai Eesti Vabariigi kultuuriminister. Lepassalu kirjutas mõrvauurimisest raamatus „Valusalt valge”.
Raivo Palmaru avas mõrva uurimise tagamaid toonases uuriva ajakirjanduse lipulaevas, ajakirjas „Luup” ja kirjutas nii: „Veel enne pastori ja tema koduabilise surnukehade leidmist moodustati tollase ülemnõukogu erikomisjon, kuhu kuulusid Villu Jürjo, Jüri Liim, Rein Järlik, Uno Ugandi, Mart Laar ja Enn Leisson. Esimestest päevadest alates puhkes selles väiklane võitlus Eesti Komitee ja Rahvarinde tegelaste vahel. Mõlemad ajasid kaksikmõrva uurimise varjus oma poliitikat ja andsid kuriteole poliitilise fooni. See murdis peagi uurimise selgroo.”
Seotus KGB-ga?
Mart Laar ja Jüri Liim pooldasid seisukohta, et Harald Meri oli vabadusvõitleja, kes tapeti KGB ülesandel, sest tema käes olnud nimekirjad represseerijate kohta, kes küüditasid ja hävitasid eestlasi 40ndatel aastatel. Sama veendumuse juurde jäi Mart Laar ka hiljem peaministrina, kui tal tuli vabadusvõitleja Mart Nikluse küsimustele vastata.
Toonane tipp-uurija Koit Pikaro aga on kinnitanud, et tema seda vabadusvõitluse liini ei usu.
Tema arvates arvates pärinevad jutud nimekirja või koguni arhiivi olemasolust Harald Merilt endalt. «Meri oli jutumees, kes pidas end suuremaks poliitikuks kui ta tegelikult oli,» rääkis Pikaro üheksa aastat pärast mõrva. «Olen üsna kindel, et mingeid nimekirju ei ole tal kunagi olnud.»
Raivo Palmaru kahtlustas ühe võimaliku roimarina teoloogiadoktor Arne Hiobit, kellel olnuks ametialane motiiv. Arutati ka võimaluse üle, et Hiobi abiliseks olnud röövmõrtsukas Ennu Gansen. Hilisem uurimine on selle liini aga ümber lükanud ning teoloogiadoktor Hiob ega ka mitte Gansen pole kunagi olnud isegi mitte ametlikult kahtlustatavate nimekirjas.
Juhid vahetusid, info hajus
Pastor Harald Meri ja Valve Kleini mõrva uurimist iseloomustab väga palju segadust. Osa sellest on kindlasti poliitiline, nagu sellal kõik meie riigis oli.
1990. aasta 10. aprillil algatati kriminaalasi, mis esialgu oli tollase ENSV prokuratuuri eriti tähtsate asjade uurija Aksel Onki menetluses. Ehkki mõrva uurides on kõige olulisem just värske informatsioon, ei lastud Onkil oma tööd teha.
Juba 17. aprillil avaldas erikomisjon talle umbusaldust, sest Onk olevat «kõikide versioonide kõrval pööranud põhjendamatult vähe tähelepanu mõrva poliitilise suuna võimalikkusele». 19. aprillil nõudis Onki tagandamist ka Eesti Komitee.
Poliitilise surve all määrati uurimisgrupi uueks juhiks Alar Kirs, kes oma eelkäija vigu ei korranud. Ta järgis püüdlikult komisjoni näpunäiteid. Need aga ei viinud kuhugi ja komisjoniliikmete tegutsemispalang soikus. Uurija jaoks oli õige aeg mööda lastud.
Seoses menetluskoodeksi muutmisega anti kriminaalasi 1993. aasta 7. mail üle keskuurimisbüroole ja sama aasta 4. juunil menetlus peatati kuni süüdistatava isiku kindlakstegemiseni. Peatatud kriminaalasi anti Pärnu raskete isikuvastaste kuritegude uurimisgrupile, mida juhtis Urmas Krüger.
Krügeri meenutust mööda paistis uurimise heitlikkus talle üle antud materjalist otsekohe silma: hüpatud oli ühelt teemalt teisele, tähelepanu oli pööratud peamiselt poliitilisele motiivile. Oli ilmne, et uurijad ei saanud oma liini lõpuni ajada. «Mul on neist uurijatest kahju,» tõdes Krüger.
Asja uurimist takistas seegi, et Krüger ei pääsenud ligi operatiivtoimikule: «Ma ei vallanud kogu kriminaalasja kohta käivat infot. Jälitustoimik oli Pikaro käsutuses ja paraku puudus meie vahel usalduslik koostöö.»
Krüger lahkus 1997. aastal politseist ja pastori mõrva toimikud koguvad tänaseni kusagil raudkapis tolmu.
Mälestadagi on raske
Vähe sellest, et uurimine jooksis liiva... Värskeid jälgi üles ei võetud, hiljem aga ajas üks segadus teist taga – ka mõrvatute mälestamist on püütud teha võimalikult keeruliseks.
Nii näiteks üritas selle maatüki omanik, kuhu hukkunutele mälestuskivi on püstitatud, sulgeda mõrvapaigale viivat teed.
Tige maaomanik ajas oma traktori tee peale, kui keegi üritas mälestuskivi juurde minna ning on jõhkralt läbi sõimanud koguni hilisema Järvamaa praosti Teet Hanschmidti.
Niisiis, mõrva on uuritud tipptasemel, kuid peale hulga kuulujuttude pole midagi saavutatud. Nii sündis idee – anname võimaluse Harald Meri surmast kõneleda ühele „Selgeltnägijate tuleproovi” osalejale.
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//tellitud laimukad teema perversussele viimaks, et ei saaks tõsimeelselt suhelda ja inimestel meelsus kaoks :
andres salum
pastorihärraga oli kunagi põgusaid kokkupuuteid, kiitles oma armusuhetega, neid "koduabilisi" oli tal terve hulk, arvasin juba toona, et mõni armukade mees või naine neile otsa peale tegi.
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ja ja ka AASMÄE ARDO sattus samade politrukkide-zampoliyidele OHUALIKAKS???
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Uurija
Kohe asi Hillar Kohvi kätte! Tema teab vastuseid
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Fakt
Tean ühte geimeest, kes tapeti 90-ndatel ka sellepärast, et omas suurt kogumikku neist, kes on Eestis seksuaalvähemused.
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2 April 2018 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//telmusloojätk:
Pastoraadi põlemine
Keskkriminaalpolitsei juhtivinspektor Heli Kesklaas:
On imetlusväärne, et Luup on jõudnud omal käel uurimise ühe põhiversioonini. Paljudes üksikasjades langeb see kokku ka minu tööversiooniga. Kuid sellest ei maksa teha liiga kaugele ulatuvaid järeldusi. On ka teistsuguseid arvamusi ja uurijana ei saa ma väita, et see või teine versioon on ainuõige. Niikaua, kuni tapjaid ei ole leitud ja nende süü tõendatud, on kõik versioonid võrdsed.
Luubi artikli puhul on tegu vaid kahtlusega, pelga oletusega, mille alusel ei saa kedagi kurjategijaks tunnistada. Asja kohtusse viimiseks on vaja tõendeid, neid aga ei ole ei uurijatel ega ka Palmarul.
Kuna topeltmõrvast on möödas üheksa aastat, siis uusi tõendeid vaevalt enam juurde tuleb. Võimalused juurdluse vahenditega tõeni jõuda ammendusid juba esimestel tapmisjärgsetel aastatel. Pealegi aegub see kuritegu järgmise aasta kevadel, mistõttu on põhjust karta, et pastor Meri ja tema koduabilise mõrva lugu jääbki lahendamata. Loodan vaid, et mõrtsukatöö kordasaatjad ei suuda nii ränka süükoormat lõpmatuseni kanda ja esinevad kunagi ülestunnistusega.
Ööl vastu 6. aprilli süüdati pastoraadihoone põlema. Tulekahju avastas juhuslikult möödasõitev piduliste seltskond, kes märkas leeke. Tuletõrjesse helistati kell kolm öösel. Pritsimehed saabusid küll kiiresti, kuid selleks ajaks, kui tuli kustutati, jäid majast ainult varemed. Oluline seik: tulekahju ajal olid kõik aknad kinni ning hoovipoolne ja välisuks seestpoolt riivis. Lahti oli aga verandale viiv uks, mille kaudu süütaja(d) ilmselt lahkus(id). Taas on põhjust arvata, et vähemasti üks süütaja oli omainimene, sest koerad olid hoovis.
Andres Natusele teatas tulekahjust koguduse liige Albert Kuhi, kes tuli talle hommikul kell kuus autoga koju järele ja viis ta pastoraati. Hiob jõudis kohale alles lõuna ajal. Väidetavalt kuulis ta tulekahjust kella ühe paiku ühelt koolivennalt ja läks pastoraadi juurde asja uurima.
Pastori lapsed Meeli ja Mihkel Me-ri jõudsid Türile 6. aprilli õhtul kella viie või poole kuue ajal. «Pastoraadis valitses täiskaos,» ütles Meeli Meri Luubile. «Kõikjal vedelesid raamatulehed, paberid, noodid. Suur hulk rahvast tallas majas ja hoovis ringi.»
Meeli Merile jäi meelde ka Hiob: «Teda nähes tekkis mul kahtlane tunne. Mehe käitumine oli imelik ja tema ühes silmas oli verevalum.»
Miks just Toraveresse?
Pärast tulekahju algas pastori ja tema koduabilise surnukehade otsimine. Mitme päeva jooksul kammis tollane miilits läbi üsna suure maa-ala Türist põhjas, idas ja lõunas. Seejuures kasutati koguni kahe kooli õpilasi. See töö lõppes tulemusteta.
Haud leiti õnneliku juhuse läbi alles 13. aprillil ja hoopis teiselt poolt - 13 kilomeetri kauguselt Türist läänes, Toravere karjääri kaldalt. Sealt ei osanud seda keegi otsida.
Hauapaika ei oleks leitud, kui mõrvarid poleks visanud Harald Meri portfelli, matkakirvest ja labidaid Toravere karjääri põhja vette. Aprilli kuivade ilmadega veetase alanes ja portfell paistis veest välja. 11. aprillil nägi seda kopajuht Nikolas Puhm ja juba kaks päeva hiljem leiti karjääri servast pisut rohkem kui saja meetri kaugusel metsast mätaste ja kuuseokstega kaetud värske haud. See kaevati lahti 14. aprillil.
Valve Klein ja Harald Meri ei olnud maetud mingisse tavalisse, kurjategijate poolt labidaga visatud mõnekümne sentimeetri sügavusse auku, vaid kõigi kristlike kommete järgi kaevatud hauda, millel oli okstest rist. Haud oli 1,62 meetrit sügav ja selle põhi kaetud kuuseokstega. Näib, et topeltmõrvarid olid varemgi hauda kaevanud ja vähemalt üks neist oli kristlane. Teisiti on haual olnud risti raske seletada.
Miks maeti ohvrid just Kolu küla juures asuva karjääri äärde metsa? Teed sinna ei tea kaugeltki iga Türi elanik. See kulgeb ait-kuivati ja kaalumaja vahelt ning mõne meetri kaugusel kahe talu akendest.
Kolus, Toravere karjääri lähedal, elab Hiobi sõbra Ennu Ganseni ämm Evi Hirtentreu. Kuigi viimane ei sallinud väimeest silmaotsaski, oli Ennu Gansen tema sagedane külaline. Nimelt valmistas Ganseni ema pärgi ning Ennu ja Virge Gansen käisid Kolust kuuseoksi toomas. «Lõikasime oksi otse karjääri äärest metsast,» selgitas Virge Gansen.
Järelikult tundis Ennu Gansen Toravere karjääri ümbrust üsna hästi. Kas mitte see ei olnud matmiskoha valikul otsustav?
Ja veel. Kuigi Harald Meri ja Valve Klein kägistati surnuks nööriga, olid nende kehadel lõike- ja torkehaavad. Ennu Gansen oli varem tekitanud samasuguseid haavu oma joomakaaslasele Aleksander Vengelinskile. 1983. aastal karistati Gansenit kuueaastase vabadusekaotusega röövimise ja kuritahtliku huligaansuse eest. Kokku on Gansen süüdi mõistetud neljal korral ja praegugi istub ta Murru vanglas.
Hoopis teine elu
Nende detailide põhjal võib pastori ja tema koduabilise tapmises kahtlustada Järva-Madise kiriku tollast abiõpetajat Arne Hiobit ja tema sõpra Ennu Gansenit. Mõrva oletatav põhjus on see, et praost Meri oli noore viinalembese kirikumehe karjääril ees.
See motiiv võib näida tühine, kuid on veel üks seik: Hiobile on diagnoositud skisofreenia. Mees ise väidab, et diagnoos on formaalne. Ta läinud arsti juurde, et mitte sõjaväkke sattuda. Kuid Hiob käis juba koolipõlves Jämejalas kontrollis ja on lähedaste inimeste sõnul ebastabiilne - ta ärrituvat liiga kergesti ja põhjuseta.
Arne Hiob sai 1990. aasta mais Koeru pastoriks ja kolis 1993. aasta septembris Tallinna. Praegu on ta Jaani koguduse õpetaja. 1994. aastal kaitses Hiob magistrikraadi ja valmistub kaitsma doktorikraadi. Ühtlasi on ta Usuteaduse Instituudi ja Tartu Ülikooli õppejõud ning EELK vaimulike ülemkohtu esimees.
Hiob elab praegu hoopis teist elu kui üheksa aastat tagasi Türil. Ta ei mängi enam kõrtsides, on saanud viinaveast võitu ja suhtleb parema seltskonnaga - kirikus ja usuteaduses väljapaistvate inimestega.
P.S Luup pakkus Arne Hiobile vastulause võimalust. «Mingit vastulauset ei tule,» vastas Hiob pärast seda, kui oli loo läbi lugenud. Ütles, et see on rünnak mitte ainult tema, vaid ka kiriku vastu, ja ähvardas kiriku vastumeetmetega.
Pastoraadi põlemine
Keskkriminaalpolitsei juhtivinspektor Heli Kesklaas:
On imetlusväärne, et Luup on jõudnud omal käel uurimise ühe põhiversioonini. Paljudes üksikasjades langeb see kokku ka minu tööversiooniga. Kuid sellest ei maksa teha liiga kaugele ulatuvaid järeldusi. On ka teistsuguseid arvamusi ja uurijana ei saa ma väita, et see või teine versioon on ainuõige. Niikaua, kuni tapjaid ei ole leitud ja nende süü tõendatud, on kõik versioonid võrdsed.
Luubi artikli puhul on tegu vaid kahtlusega, pelga oletusega, mille alusel ei saa kedagi kurjategijaks tunnistada. Asja kohtusse viimiseks on vaja tõendeid, neid aga ei ole ei uurijatel ega ka Palmarul.
Kuna topeltmõrvast on möödas üheksa aastat, siis uusi tõendeid vaevalt enam juurde tuleb. Võimalused juurdluse vahenditega tõeni jõuda ammendusid juba esimestel tapmisjärgsetel aastatel. Pealegi aegub see kuritegu järgmise aasta kevadel, mistõttu on põhjust karta, et pastor Meri ja tema koduabilise mõrva lugu jääbki lahendamata. Loodan vaid, et mõrtsukatöö kordasaatjad ei suuda nii ränka süükoormat lõpmatuseni kanda ja esinevad kunagi ülestunnistusega.
Ööl vastu 6. aprilli süüdati pastoraadihoone põlema. Tulekahju avastas juhuslikult möödasõitev piduliste seltskond, kes märkas leeke. Tuletõrjesse helistati kell kolm öösel. Pritsimehed saabusid küll kiiresti, kuid selleks ajaks, kui tuli kustutati, jäid majast ainult varemed. Oluline seik: tulekahju ajal olid kõik aknad kinni ning hoovipoolne ja välisuks seestpoolt riivis. Lahti oli aga verandale viiv uks, mille kaudu süütaja(d) ilmselt lahkus(id). Taas on põhjust arvata, et vähemasti üks süütaja oli omainimene, sest koerad olid hoovis.
Andres Natusele teatas tulekahjust koguduse liige Albert Kuhi, kes tuli talle hommikul kell kuus autoga koju järele ja viis ta pastoraati. Hiob jõudis kohale alles lõuna ajal. Väidetavalt kuulis ta tulekahjust kella ühe paiku ühelt koolivennalt ja läks pastoraadi juurde asja uurima.
Pastori lapsed Meeli ja Mihkel Me-ri jõudsid Türile 6. aprilli õhtul kella viie või poole kuue ajal. «Pastoraadis valitses täiskaos,» ütles Meeli Meri Luubile. «Kõikjal vedelesid raamatulehed, paberid, noodid. Suur hulk rahvast tallas majas ja hoovis ringi.»
Meeli Merile jäi meelde ka Hiob: «Teda nähes tekkis mul kahtlane tunne. Mehe käitumine oli imelik ja tema ühes silmas oli verevalum.»
Miks just Toraveresse?
Pärast tulekahju algas pastori ja tema koduabilise surnukehade otsimine. Mitme päeva jooksul kammis tollane miilits läbi üsna suure maa-ala Türist põhjas, idas ja lõunas. Seejuures kasutati koguni kahe kooli õpilasi. See töö lõppes tulemusteta.
Haud leiti õnneliku juhuse läbi alles 13. aprillil ja hoopis teiselt poolt - 13 kilomeetri kauguselt Türist läänes, Toravere karjääri kaldalt. Sealt ei osanud seda keegi otsida.
Hauapaika ei oleks leitud, kui mõrvarid poleks visanud Harald Meri portfelli, matkakirvest ja labidaid Toravere karjääri põhja vette. Aprilli kuivade ilmadega veetase alanes ja portfell paistis veest välja. 11. aprillil nägi seda kopajuht Nikolas Puhm ja juba kaks päeva hiljem leiti karjääri servast pisut rohkem kui saja meetri kaugusel metsast mätaste ja kuuseokstega kaetud värske haud. See kaevati lahti 14. aprillil.
Valve Klein ja Harald Meri ei olnud maetud mingisse tavalisse, kurjategijate poolt labidaga visatud mõnekümne sentimeetri sügavusse auku, vaid kõigi kristlike kommete järgi kaevatud hauda, millel oli okstest rist. Haud oli 1,62 meetrit sügav ja selle põhi kaetud kuuseokstega. Näib, et topeltmõrvarid olid varemgi hauda kaevanud ja vähemalt üks neist oli kristlane. Teisiti on haual olnud risti raske seletada.
Miks maeti ohvrid just Kolu küla juures asuva karjääri äärde metsa? Teed sinna ei tea kaugeltki iga Türi elanik. See kulgeb ait-kuivati ja kaalumaja vahelt ning mõne meetri kaugusel kahe talu akendest.
Kolus, Toravere karjääri lähedal, elab Hiobi sõbra Ennu Ganseni ämm Evi Hirtentreu. Kuigi viimane ei sallinud väimeest silmaotsaski, oli Ennu Gansen tema sagedane külaline. Nimelt valmistas Ganseni ema pärgi ning Ennu ja Virge Gansen käisid Kolust kuuseoksi toomas. «Lõikasime oksi otse karjääri äärest metsast,» selgitas Virge Gansen.
Järelikult tundis Ennu Gansen Toravere karjääri ümbrust üsna hästi. Kas mitte see ei olnud matmiskoha valikul otsustav?
Ja veel. Kuigi Harald Meri ja Valve Klein kägistati surnuks nööriga, olid nende kehadel lõike- ja torkehaavad. Ennu Gansen oli varem tekitanud samasuguseid haavu oma joomakaaslasele Aleksander Vengelinskile. 1983. aastal karistati Gansenit kuueaastase vabadusekaotusega röövimise ja kuritahtliku huligaansuse eest. Kokku on Gansen süüdi mõistetud neljal korral ja praegugi istub ta Murru vanglas.
Hoopis teine elu
Nende detailide põhjal võib pastori ja tema koduabilise tapmises kahtlustada Järva-Madise kiriku tollast abiõpetajat Arne Hiobit ja tema sõpra Ennu Gansenit. Mõrva oletatav põhjus on see, et praost Meri oli noore viinalembese kirikumehe karjääril ees.
See motiiv võib näida tühine, kuid on veel üks seik: Hiobile on diagnoositud skisofreenia. Mees ise väidab, et diagnoos on formaalne. Ta läinud arsti juurde, et mitte sõjaväkke sattuda. Kuid Hiob käis juba koolipõlves Jämejalas kontrollis ja on lähedaste inimeste sõnul ebastabiilne - ta ärrituvat liiga kergesti ja põhjuseta.
Arne Hiob sai 1990. aasta mais Koeru pastoriks ja kolis 1993. aasta septembris Tallinna. Praegu on ta Jaani koguduse õpetaja. 1994. aastal kaitses Hiob magistrikraadi ja valmistub kaitsma doktorikraadi. Ühtlasi on ta Usuteaduse Instituudi ja Tartu Ülikooli õppejõud ning EELK vaimulike ülemkohtu esimees.
Hiob elab praegu hoopis teist elu kui üheksa aastat tagasi Türil. Ta ei mängi enam kõrtsides, on saanud viinaveast võitu ja suhtleb parema seltskonnaga - kirikus ja usuteaduses väljapaistvate inimestega.
P.S Luup pakkus Arne Hiobile vastulause võimalust. «Mingit vastulauset ei tule,» vastas Hiob pärast seda, kui oli loo läbi lugenud. Ütles, et see on rünnak mitte ainult tema, vaid ka kiriku vastu, ja ähvardas kiriku vastumeetmetega.
2 April 2018 02:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// laimutellimusloo jätk:
Lõbus pillimees
Tookord 29-aastane Arne Hiob oli õppinud muusikakoolis. Ta mängis kirikus orelit, matustel pasunat ja Paide restoranis klaverit. 1986. aasta detsembris oli ta alustanud õpinguid Usuteaduse Instituudis. Harald Meri tundis Hiobit juba viis aastat ja oli andnud talle soovituse Usuteaduse Instituuti astumiseks. Sellest hoolimata ei olnud nende läbisaamine kuigi hea.
«Püüdsin Meriga võimalikult vähe kokku puutuda,» möönis Hiob Luubile. «Kui ta kõnelema hakkas, oli lootusetu enne kahte tundi minema pääseda. Ka ei olnud Meri oma hariduse ja intellektuaalse taseme poolest mulle mingi autoriteet. Seda enam püüdis ta end peale suruda. Umbes nii, et tema on minu ülemus ja mina tema alluv.»
Kuid lahkhelide tegelik põhjus oli Hiobi kärakavõtmine. Hiobi vana sõbra ja koolivenna Ennu Ganseni naise Virge sõnul olnud abiõpetaja kogu aeg purjus. «Kui Hiob oli Türil, siis kainet päeva praktiliselt ei olnud,» ütles Gansen Luubile. Ka Hiobi sõber Jaan Kuusik mäletab tollast viinavõtmist: «Hiob õppis kõvasti ja lõõgastus alkoholi abil.» Purjutamise pärast oli Hiob jätnud minemata nii mõnelegi matusele ja olnud joomane ka jumalateenistuse ajal. Pastorile see muidugi ei meeldinud ja ta lubanud koguni oma soovituse Usuteaduse Instituudist tagasi võtta.
Noor mees tahtis Koeru
Eriti pinevaks muutusid pastori ja tema abilise suhted 1990. aasta aprilli esimestel päevadel. Hiobil oli selleks ajaks läbi pool stuudiumist ja konsistoorium tegi talle ettepaneku minna Koeru pastoriks. Nii palju kui teada, köitis pakkumine noormeest.
Kuid ametisse nimetamine sõltus Merist, kes oli Järvamaa praost. Ja näib, et Meril oli kahtlusi. Hiob ordineeriti kirikuõpetajaks juba veebruari viimasel päeval, kuid aprilli alguseks ei olnud praost oma jah-sõna öelnud.
2.-4. aprillini 1990 toimus Tallinnas kirikuõpetajate konverents, kus osales ka Hiob, kuid tuli teistest varem ära. 3. aprillil kella 13-14 vahel püüdis ta helistada Tallinnast pastor Merile, ent ei saanud ühendust, sest liinides oli rike.
Hiljem on ajalehtedes väidetud, et pastoraadi telefonijuhtmed olid läbi lõigatud. Kuid samal päeval, 3. aprillil, käis pastoraadis telefoniriket parandamas Türi sidesõlme tollane elektrimontöör Heiki Aak, kes praegu on Mustvees metsatööline. Tema mäletamist mööda ei olnud juhtmed katki rebitud ega puruks lõigatud. «Rike tekkis ilmastiku mõjul,» ütles Aak. «Selliseid rikkeid oli seal olnud varemgi.»
Niisiis ei saanud Hiob ühendust ja sõitis Türile. Samal õhtul kohtus ta pastor Meriga. Jutuajamine oli äge ja lõppes väidetavalt sellega, et Hiob teatas: tema Türi kirikus enam orelit ei mängi.
4. aprilli õhtul kella kuue paiku läks Hiob oma sõbra Jaan Kuusiku juurde. Seegi käik oli seotud tulevase ametiga - Kuusik õmbles Hiobile kirikuõpetaja talaari juurde kuuluvat mütsi. «Müts ei olnud veel valmis,» seletas Kuusik, «mistõttu meil läks aega.» Kuusiku juurest helistas Hiob Merile pastoraati. «Jutt oli Koeru pastoriks määramisest,» tähendas Kuusik.
«Helistasin sellepärast, et praost oli ametisse määramisega seotud,» ütles ka Hiob Luubile. «Mulle oleks meeldinud, et ta oleks neid asju kiiremini ajanud.» Tegelikult helistas Hiob pastoraati veel ühe korra, ent kui Meri vastas, pani Hiob toru hargile.
Kuusiku mäletamist mööda lahkus sõber tema juurest kella üheksa paiku õhtul. Kuhu, seda ta ei tea. Hiobi sõnul läinud ta koju. Kuid Virge Ganseni väitel tuli ta hoopis Gansenite juurde: «Tahtsin saada Arne käest piiblit oma õe lastele ja ta käis seda ära toomas.»
«Kui kaua Hiob teie juures viibis?»
«Ei mäleta,» vastas Gansen.
Nõnda siis ei ole teada, kus oli Arne Hiob 1990. aasta 4. aprilli hilisõhtul. Ja sedagi mitte, kus oli Ennu Gansen.
Rikkis pidurid
Oletatavasti viidi ohvrid pastoraadi tagaukse kaudu Harald Meri Zhigulisse, mis seisis kuuris. Uksest kuurini oli vaid mõni meeter. Mõlema käed olid nööriga kinni seotud. Ohvrite suus oli tropp, mida kattis valge riideräbal, ja kaelas heinapakinöörist tehtud silmus. Usutavasti olid nad siis veel elus, sest pastoril olid hauas jalas lahtiste kandadega toasussid. Kui teda oleks lohistatud, oleksid need jalast ära tulnud.
Matmispaika sõideti pastori helebeezhi VAZ-2102-ga, mis toodi pärast tapatööd kuuri alla tagasi. Kuurialune oli kitsas ja et pimedal aprilliööl sealt välja tagurdada ning hiljem jälle sisse sõita, pidi juht olema seda varemgi teinud. Ka oli kuuri uks 6. aprilli hommikul lukus ja võti peidikus.
Meri Zhiguliga sõitsid kolm inimest: pastor ise, tema tütar Meeli Meri ja Arne Hiob. Peidiku asukohta teadsid lisaks pastorile ja tema koduabilisele Meeli Meri, Natus ja Hiob.
Veel üks detail: auto pidurid olid korrast ära. Pastor pidi minema järgmisel päeval Aravetele neid parandama. Luup küsis Hiobilt, millises seisus oli Harald Meri auto, kui ta sellega viimati sõitis. «Ma ei ole auto ala asjatundja, aga vist oli piduritega mingi jama,» vastas ta. «Jah, mitu korda tuli pedaalile vajutada.»
Meeli Meri sõnul oli pastori auto 26. märtsist kuni 2. aprillini tema käes. «Pidurid läksid rikki sellel ajal,» seletas ta. «Isa viis auto Türile tagasi kas pühapäeva õhtul või esmaspäeva hommikul ja lubas nädala keskel Aravetele autoteenindusse minna.»
Pühapäev oli 1. aprill ja esmaspäev 2. aprill. Hiob oli 2. ja 3. aprillil Tallinnas ega saanud rikkis piduritest midagi teada. Tõsi, piduririkkest oli juttu ka ajakirjanduses. Kuid Hiob kirjeldas õigesti seda, et pidurdamiseks tuli mitu korda pedaalile vajutada. Kuidas ta seda teadis?
Arvasin 19. aprilli Luubis ekslikult, et pastoraadist sõideti Türi keskuse poole ja sealt keerati Tallinna tänavale. Sellel õhtul oli Tallinna tänaval, umbes 150 meetrit enne Tehnika tänava risti, väljas liikluspatrull. Seetõttu on põhjust uskuda, et pastoraadist keerati paremale, Paide tänavale ja sealt vasakule, Tolli tänavale, kust tee viis Tehnika tänava kaudu ümber linna Rapla maanteele. See tee oli kõige ohutum ja tapjatele küllap ka tuttav.
Järgmisel päeval
5. aprillil käisid pastoraadi ukse taga paljud inimesed. Kõige esimesed olid ilmselt Valve Kleini endised töökaaslased metsamajandist, kellega koos ta pidi hommikul Tallinnasse näitusele sõitma. Et Klein kokkulepitud kohta ei ilmunud, tulid nad teda otsima.
Hommikul kella üheksa paiku jõudis pastoraati Natus. Meri oli Aumeeste kirstupaneku tseremoonia lõppedes palunud tal olla järgmisel päeval pastoraadis valves. «Meri tahtis Aravetele minna ja ütles, et sul pole midagi teha, ole kantseleis,» rääkis Natus.
Kirikuteenril oli maja hoovipoolse ukse võti, kuid uks oli seestpoolt haagis. Natus katsus ka välisust, ent seegi oli kinni. Ta järeldas, et Meri oli ukse lukku keeranud ja ära sõitnud, ning läks koju.
Maja ukse taga käis ka Järva-Jaani koguduse tollane abiõpetaja, praegune Viru üksiku jalaväepataljoni kaplan Peeter Parts. «Täpset kellaaega ma enam ei mäleta,» ütles Parts Luubile. «Andsin tänavapoolse ukse taga kella, kuid uks oli lukus. Kuna mul oli matusele kiire, lasksin kiriku aruande postkasti ja lahkusin.»
Hiob ütles Luubile, et läks kolmapäeva õhtul Jaan Kuusiku juurest koju ja jäi sinna peaaegu kaheks päevaks. «Terve neljapäevase päeva nokitsesin midagi kodus ja läksin reedel linna peale,» sõnas ta.
Ent nagu nägime, ei läinud Hiob 4. aprillil koju. Ka neljapäeval, 5. aprillil ei olnud ta tervet päeva kodus. Virge Ganseni sõnul tuli Hiob 5. aprilli õhtul kella poole kümne või kümne paiku joobnuna taas Gansenite juurde. Väidetavalt olnud tal kaasas pool pudelit viina. Kuid Virge Ganseni sõnul nad seda jooma ei hakanud. Pererahvas pakkunud Hiobile kohvi ja pärast kohvijoomist läinud ta minema. Virge Ganseni arvates olnud külaline enne neile tulekut Pärna baaris.
Lõbus pillimees
Tookord 29-aastane Arne Hiob oli õppinud muusikakoolis. Ta mängis kirikus orelit, matustel pasunat ja Paide restoranis klaverit. 1986. aasta detsembris oli ta alustanud õpinguid Usuteaduse Instituudis. Harald Meri tundis Hiobit juba viis aastat ja oli andnud talle soovituse Usuteaduse Instituuti astumiseks. Sellest hoolimata ei olnud nende läbisaamine kuigi hea.
«Püüdsin Meriga võimalikult vähe kokku puutuda,» möönis Hiob Luubile. «Kui ta kõnelema hakkas, oli lootusetu enne kahte tundi minema pääseda. Ka ei olnud Meri oma hariduse ja intellektuaalse taseme poolest mulle mingi autoriteet. Seda enam püüdis ta end peale suruda. Umbes nii, et tema on minu ülemus ja mina tema alluv.»
Kuid lahkhelide tegelik põhjus oli Hiobi kärakavõtmine. Hiobi vana sõbra ja koolivenna Ennu Ganseni naise Virge sõnul olnud abiõpetaja kogu aeg purjus. «Kui Hiob oli Türil, siis kainet päeva praktiliselt ei olnud,» ütles Gansen Luubile. Ka Hiobi sõber Jaan Kuusik mäletab tollast viinavõtmist: «Hiob õppis kõvasti ja lõõgastus alkoholi abil.» Purjutamise pärast oli Hiob jätnud minemata nii mõnelegi matusele ja olnud joomane ka jumalateenistuse ajal. Pastorile see muidugi ei meeldinud ja ta lubanud koguni oma soovituse Usuteaduse Instituudist tagasi võtta.
Noor mees tahtis Koeru
Eriti pinevaks muutusid pastori ja tema abilise suhted 1990. aasta aprilli esimestel päevadel. Hiobil oli selleks ajaks läbi pool stuudiumist ja konsistoorium tegi talle ettepaneku minna Koeru pastoriks. Nii palju kui teada, köitis pakkumine noormeest.
Kuid ametisse nimetamine sõltus Merist, kes oli Järvamaa praost. Ja näib, et Meril oli kahtlusi. Hiob ordineeriti kirikuõpetajaks juba veebruari viimasel päeval, kuid aprilli alguseks ei olnud praost oma jah-sõna öelnud.
2.-4. aprillini 1990 toimus Tallinnas kirikuõpetajate konverents, kus osales ka Hiob, kuid tuli teistest varem ära. 3. aprillil kella 13-14 vahel püüdis ta helistada Tallinnast pastor Merile, ent ei saanud ühendust, sest liinides oli rike.
Hiljem on ajalehtedes väidetud, et pastoraadi telefonijuhtmed olid läbi lõigatud. Kuid samal päeval, 3. aprillil, käis pastoraadis telefoniriket parandamas Türi sidesõlme tollane elektrimontöör Heiki Aak, kes praegu on Mustvees metsatööline. Tema mäletamist mööda ei olnud juhtmed katki rebitud ega puruks lõigatud. «Rike tekkis ilmastiku mõjul,» ütles Aak. «Selliseid rikkeid oli seal olnud varemgi.»
Niisiis ei saanud Hiob ühendust ja sõitis Türile. Samal õhtul kohtus ta pastor Meriga. Jutuajamine oli äge ja lõppes väidetavalt sellega, et Hiob teatas: tema Türi kirikus enam orelit ei mängi.
4. aprilli õhtul kella kuue paiku läks Hiob oma sõbra Jaan Kuusiku juurde. Seegi käik oli seotud tulevase ametiga - Kuusik õmbles Hiobile kirikuõpetaja talaari juurde kuuluvat mütsi. «Müts ei olnud veel valmis,» seletas Kuusik, «mistõttu meil läks aega.» Kuusiku juurest helistas Hiob Merile pastoraati. «Jutt oli Koeru pastoriks määramisest,» tähendas Kuusik.
«Helistasin sellepärast, et praost oli ametisse määramisega seotud,» ütles ka Hiob Luubile. «Mulle oleks meeldinud, et ta oleks neid asju kiiremini ajanud.» Tegelikult helistas Hiob pastoraati veel ühe korra, ent kui Meri vastas, pani Hiob toru hargile.
Kuusiku mäletamist mööda lahkus sõber tema juurest kella üheksa paiku õhtul. Kuhu, seda ta ei tea. Hiobi sõnul läinud ta koju. Kuid Virge Ganseni väitel tuli ta hoopis Gansenite juurde: «Tahtsin saada Arne käest piiblit oma õe lastele ja ta käis seda ära toomas.»
«Kui kaua Hiob teie juures viibis?»
«Ei mäleta,» vastas Gansen.
Nõnda siis ei ole teada, kus oli Arne Hiob 1990. aasta 4. aprilli hilisõhtul. Ja sedagi mitte, kus oli Ennu Gansen.
Rikkis pidurid
Oletatavasti viidi ohvrid pastoraadi tagaukse kaudu Harald Meri Zhigulisse, mis seisis kuuris. Uksest kuurini oli vaid mõni meeter. Mõlema käed olid nööriga kinni seotud. Ohvrite suus oli tropp, mida kattis valge riideräbal, ja kaelas heinapakinöörist tehtud silmus. Usutavasti olid nad siis veel elus, sest pastoril olid hauas jalas lahtiste kandadega toasussid. Kui teda oleks lohistatud, oleksid need jalast ära tulnud.
Matmispaika sõideti pastori helebeezhi VAZ-2102-ga, mis toodi pärast tapatööd kuuri alla tagasi. Kuurialune oli kitsas ja et pimedal aprilliööl sealt välja tagurdada ning hiljem jälle sisse sõita, pidi juht olema seda varemgi teinud. Ka oli kuuri uks 6. aprilli hommikul lukus ja võti peidikus.
Meri Zhiguliga sõitsid kolm inimest: pastor ise, tema tütar Meeli Meri ja Arne Hiob. Peidiku asukohta teadsid lisaks pastorile ja tema koduabilisele Meeli Meri, Natus ja Hiob.
Veel üks detail: auto pidurid olid korrast ära. Pastor pidi minema järgmisel päeval Aravetele neid parandama. Luup küsis Hiobilt, millises seisus oli Harald Meri auto, kui ta sellega viimati sõitis. «Ma ei ole auto ala asjatundja, aga vist oli piduritega mingi jama,» vastas ta. «Jah, mitu korda tuli pedaalile vajutada.»
Meeli Meri sõnul oli pastori auto 26. märtsist kuni 2. aprillini tema käes. «Pidurid läksid rikki sellel ajal,» seletas ta. «Isa viis auto Türile tagasi kas pühapäeva õhtul või esmaspäeva hommikul ja lubas nädala keskel Aravetele autoteenindusse minna.»
Pühapäev oli 1. aprill ja esmaspäev 2. aprill. Hiob oli 2. ja 3. aprillil Tallinnas ega saanud rikkis piduritest midagi teada. Tõsi, piduririkkest oli juttu ka ajakirjanduses. Kuid Hiob kirjeldas õigesti seda, et pidurdamiseks tuli mitu korda pedaalile vajutada. Kuidas ta seda teadis?
Arvasin 19. aprilli Luubis ekslikult, et pastoraadist sõideti Türi keskuse poole ja sealt keerati Tallinna tänavale. Sellel õhtul oli Tallinna tänaval, umbes 150 meetrit enne Tehnika tänava risti, väljas liikluspatrull. Seetõttu on põhjust uskuda, et pastoraadist keerati paremale, Paide tänavale ja sealt vasakule, Tolli tänavale, kust tee viis Tehnika tänava kaudu ümber linna Rapla maanteele. See tee oli kõige ohutum ja tapjatele küllap ka tuttav.
Järgmisel päeval
5. aprillil käisid pastoraadi ukse taga paljud inimesed. Kõige esimesed olid ilmselt Valve Kleini endised töökaaslased metsamajandist, kellega koos ta pidi hommikul Tallinnasse näitusele sõitma. Et Klein kokkulepitud kohta ei ilmunud, tulid nad teda otsima.
Hommikul kella üheksa paiku jõudis pastoraati Natus. Meri oli Aumeeste kirstupaneku tseremoonia lõppedes palunud tal olla järgmisel päeval pastoraadis valves. «Meri tahtis Aravetele minna ja ütles, et sul pole midagi teha, ole kantseleis,» rääkis Natus.
Kirikuteenril oli maja hoovipoolse ukse võti, kuid uks oli seestpoolt haagis. Natus katsus ka välisust, ent seegi oli kinni. Ta järeldas, et Meri oli ukse lukku keeranud ja ära sõitnud, ning läks koju.
Maja ukse taga käis ka Järva-Jaani koguduse tollane abiõpetaja, praegune Viru üksiku jalaväepataljoni kaplan Peeter Parts. «Täpset kellaaega ma enam ei mäleta,» ütles Parts Luubile. «Andsin tänavapoolse ukse taga kella, kuid uks oli lukus. Kuna mul oli matusele kiire, lasksin kiriku aruande postkasti ja lahkusin.»
Hiob ütles Luubile, et läks kolmapäeva õhtul Jaan Kuusiku juurest koju ja jäi sinna peaaegu kaheks päevaks. «Terve neljapäevase päeva nokitsesin midagi kodus ja läksin reedel linna peale,» sõnas ta.
Ent nagu nägime, ei läinud Hiob 4. aprillil koju. Ka neljapäeval, 5. aprillil ei olnud ta tervet päeva kodus. Virge Ganseni sõnul tuli Hiob 5. aprilli õhtul kella poole kümne või kümne paiku joobnuna taas Gansenite juurde. Väidetavalt olnud tal kaasas pool pudelit viina. Kuid Virge Ganseni sõnul nad seda jooma ei hakanud. Pererahvas pakkunud Hiobile kohvi ja pärast kohvijoomist läinud ta minema. Virge Ganseni arvates olnud külaline enne neile tulekut Pärna baaris.
2 April 2018 02:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//laimu tellimusloo jätk:
Väiksemaid versioonikesi on teisigi. Üks Türi koguduse liige näiteks usub, et topeltmõrv «sooritati homoseksualismi pinnalt». Meri olnud biseksuaal ja tema lähikonnas olnud üks homoseksualistist kirikumees. Selles loos pole põhjust arutada pastori eraelu rohkem kui vältimatult vajalik. Seetõttu olgu vaid öeldud, et väidetav homo lahkus Türilt 80. aastate teisel poolel ja pastor oli 1990. aasta aprillis juba 72-aastane.
Üks on kindel: kuriteo poliitilised motiivid ei ole kinnitust leidnud. Ja ka tapatöö materiaalsed põhjused näivad olevat välistatud. Pastoraadist ei kadunud teadaolevaid väärtusi. Mõrvatutel olid alles sõrmused, kõrvarõngad ja kuldkellad. Seepärast võib tapmise kõige tõenäolisemaks põhjuseks pidada isiklike vastuolude pinnal tekkinud konflikti.
Mis toimus Türi pastoraadis?
Pärast versioonide lühiesitlust - võib olla liiga lühidat, et veenda - võime küsida, mis toimus Türi pastoraadis 1990. aasta aprilli esimestel päevadel?
Harald Meri ja Valve Klein käisid 4. aprilli keskpäeval Sillaotsal ühe Kleini sugulase matusel. Samal õhtul kell seitse toimus pastoraadis kirikukoori proov. Kohal oli peaaegu kakskümmend inimest - Järva-Madise koori liikmed, kelle hulka kuulusid ka pastori koduabiline Valve Klein ja kirikuteener Andres Natus. Proov lõppes kümme minutit enne üheksat, sest Meri pidi minema ühte surnut puusärki panema.
Kell üheksa sõitis pastoraadihoone ette kadunukese väimees Eduard Irmann. Ukse avas Valve Klein. Selleks ajaks olid kirikukoori liikmed lahkunud ning peale koduabilise olid majas Meri ja Natus. Mõlemad läksid Irmanniga kaasa. Irmanni mäletamist mööda sulges pastor majast väljudes ukse võtmega. «Valve on ju kodus,» öelnud Irmann üllatunult. Pastor vastanud, et ta ei lähe niikuinii välja. Seejärel istusid kolm meest autosse ja sõitsid Kalevi tänavale.
Kadunud Jaan Aumeeste kirstupaneku tseremoonia kestis pool tundi. Pärast seda läks kõrvaltänaval elav Natus jalgsi koju. Irmann viis Meri tagasi pastoraati ja nad vestlesid maja esimesel korrusel asunud kantseleis peaaegu pool tundi. Irmann maksis pastorile kirstupaneku eest 140 rubla ja leppis kokku matuse suhtes. See pidi olema 7. aprillil. Jutuajamise juures oli ka Valve Klein ja kantseleis käis pastori taksikoer, kes nuusutas Irmanni. Seega oli üks kahest koerast toas. Irmann lahkus pastoraadist pärast kella kümmet.
Samal õhtul peeti kohalikus autobaasis pidu. Üks peolistest, dispetsher-kassapidaja Mimmi Aavik lahkus olengult kella poole kaheteistkümne paiku. Ta sõitis koju jalgrattaga. Pastoraadihoonest möödudes nägi ta, et kõik selle aknad on valged. «Ümber-kaudsed majad olid pimedad, pastoraadi kõigis akendes aga põles tuli,» ütles Aavik. «See tundus imelik.»
Türil teatakse rääkida, et Mimmi Aavik näinud külgkardinate vahelt ka Harald Merit kellegagi ägedalt vaidlemas. Kellega, seda Aavik ei näinud, pastori vestluskaaslane jäänud külgkardina varju. Sama versiooni teavad ka politseiuurijad. Kuid siinkirjutajaga kohtudes Aavik seda millegipärast eitas. «Ma ei näinud kedagi, akendel olid külgkardinad ees,» ütles ta resoluutselt.
Nii või teisiti võime oletada, et tapjad olid 4. aprilli õhtul kell 23.30 pastoraadis.
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Mõrvarid said majja tulla alles poole üheteistkümne paiku õhtul, võib-olla hiljemgi, sest pärast Irmanni lahkumist jõudsid pastor ja tema koduabiline end lahti riietada ja võib-olla ka magama heita. Valve Kleinil oli hauas seljas öösärk ja jalas toasussid. Pastoril oli seljas valge pesu ja selle peal hommikumantel. Temalgi olid jalas toasussid. Nende detailide põhjal võib oletada, et vähemasti üks tapjatest oli oma-inimene - selline, kes lasti sisse hilisel õhtutunnil ja keda võeti vastu hommikumantlis.
Majja tungimine on välistatud, sest pastoraadihoone uksed olid seestpoolt suletud. Pastoraat asus vaikse linnakese peatänava ääres ja kõik selle neli külge olid naabermajade akendest hästi näha. Majas oli kaks lärmakat koera - üks õues ja teine toas. Jahikoerte kasvatamine oli Harald Meri hobi. Ta oli aastatel 1945-1964 olnud koguni «Kalevi» künoloogia peaekspert. Natuse kinnitust mööda koerad võõraid sisse ei lasknud. Pealegi oli Meri oma soliidsele eale vaatamata hea reaktsiooniga. Tal oli käepärast püss ja hommikumantli taskus olid padrunid.
Selliseid omainimesi, keda õhtul majja lasti ja keda koerad ei rünnanud, ei olnud palju: Harald Meri lapsed, Andres Natus ja kiriku abiõpetaja Arne Hiob. Meri lapsed ei olnud sel õhtul Türil ja Natus oli kodus, Kreutzwaldi tn 24 majas. Laste läbisaamine oma isaga oli hea. Ja kui Meril üldse oli sõpru, siis oli see Natus. «Me olime nagu kaks venda,» rääkis Natus oma suhetest kadunud pastoriga. Järelikult väärib sellest seltskonnast tähelepanu Hiob.
Väiksemaid versioonikesi on teisigi. Üks Türi koguduse liige näiteks usub, et topeltmõrv «sooritati homoseksualismi pinnalt». Meri olnud biseksuaal ja tema lähikonnas olnud üks homoseksualistist kirikumees. Selles loos pole põhjust arutada pastori eraelu rohkem kui vältimatult vajalik. Seetõttu olgu vaid öeldud, et väidetav homo lahkus Türilt 80. aastate teisel poolel ja pastor oli 1990. aasta aprillis juba 72-aastane.
Üks on kindel: kuriteo poliitilised motiivid ei ole kinnitust leidnud. Ja ka tapatöö materiaalsed põhjused näivad olevat välistatud. Pastoraadist ei kadunud teadaolevaid väärtusi. Mõrvatutel olid alles sõrmused, kõrvarõngad ja kuldkellad. Seepärast võib tapmise kõige tõenäolisemaks põhjuseks pidada isiklike vastuolude pinnal tekkinud konflikti.
Mis toimus Türi pastoraadis?
Pärast versioonide lühiesitlust - võib olla liiga lühidat, et veenda - võime küsida, mis toimus Türi pastoraadis 1990. aasta aprilli esimestel päevadel?
Harald Meri ja Valve Klein käisid 4. aprilli keskpäeval Sillaotsal ühe Kleini sugulase matusel. Samal õhtul kell seitse toimus pastoraadis kirikukoori proov. Kohal oli peaaegu kakskümmend inimest - Järva-Madise koori liikmed, kelle hulka kuulusid ka pastori koduabiline Valve Klein ja kirikuteener Andres Natus. Proov lõppes kümme minutit enne üheksat, sest Meri pidi minema ühte surnut puusärki panema.
Kell üheksa sõitis pastoraadihoone ette kadunukese väimees Eduard Irmann. Ukse avas Valve Klein. Selleks ajaks olid kirikukoori liikmed lahkunud ning peale koduabilise olid majas Meri ja Natus. Mõlemad läksid Irmanniga kaasa. Irmanni mäletamist mööda sulges pastor majast väljudes ukse võtmega. «Valve on ju kodus,» öelnud Irmann üllatunult. Pastor vastanud, et ta ei lähe niikuinii välja. Seejärel istusid kolm meest autosse ja sõitsid Kalevi tänavale.
Kadunud Jaan Aumeeste kirstupaneku tseremoonia kestis pool tundi. Pärast seda läks kõrvaltänaval elav Natus jalgsi koju. Irmann viis Meri tagasi pastoraati ja nad vestlesid maja esimesel korrusel asunud kantseleis peaaegu pool tundi. Irmann maksis pastorile kirstupaneku eest 140 rubla ja leppis kokku matuse suhtes. See pidi olema 7. aprillil. Jutuajamise juures oli ka Valve Klein ja kantseleis käis pastori taksikoer, kes nuusutas Irmanni. Seega oli üks kahest koerast toas. Irmann lahkus pastoraadist pärast kella kümmet.
Samal õhtul peeti kohalikus autobaasis pidu. Üks peolistest, dispetsher-kassapidaja Mimmi Aavik lahkus olengult kella poole kaheteistkümne paiku. Ta sõitis koju jalgrattaga. Pastoraadihoonest möödudes nägi ta, et kõik selle aknad on valged. «Ümber-kaudsed majad olid pimedad, pastoraadi kõigis akendes aga põles tuli,» ütles Aavik. «See tundus imelik.»
Türil teatakse rääkida, et Mimmi Aavik näinud külgkardinate vahelt ka Harald Merit kellegagi ägedalt vaidlemas. Kellega, seda Aavik ei näinud, pastori vestluskaaslane jäänud külgkardina varju. Sama versiooni teavad ka politseiuurijad. Kuid siinkirjutajaga kohtudes Aavik seda millegipärast eitas. «Ma ei näinud kedagi, akendel olid külgkardinad ees,» ütles ta resoluutselt.
Nii või teisiti võime oletada, et tapjad olid 4. aprilli õhtul kell 23.30 pastoraadis.
Ring tõmbub koomale
Mõrvarid said majja tulla alles poole üheteistkümne paiku õhtul, võib-olla hiljemgi, sest pärast Irmanni lahkumist jõudsid pastor ja tema koduabiline end lahti riietada ja võib-olla ka magama heita. Valve Kleinil oli hauas seljas öösärk ja jalas toasussid. Pastoril oli seljas valge pesu ja selle peal hommikumantel. Temalgi olid jalas toasussid. Nende detailide põhjal võib oletada, et vähemasti üks tapjatest oli oma-inimene - selline, kes lasti sisse hilisel õhtutunnil ja keda võeti vastu hommikumantlis.
Majja tungimine on välistatud, sest pastoraadihoone uksed olid seestpoolt suletud. Pastoraat asus vaikse linnakese peatänava ääres ja kõik selle neli külge olid naabermajade akendest hästi näha. Majas oli kaks lärmakat koera - üks õues ja teine toas. Jahikoerte kasvatamine oli Harald Meri hobi. Ta oli aastatel 1945-1964 olnud koguni «Kalevi» künoloogia peaekspert. Natuse kinnitust mööda koerad võõraid sisse ei lasknud. Pealegi oli Meri oma soliidsele eale vaatamata hea reaktsiooniga. Tal oli käepärast püss ja hommikumantli taskus olid padrunid.
Selliseid omainimesi, keda õhtul majja lasti ja keda koerad ei rünnanud, ei olnud palju: Harald Meri lapsed, Andres Natus ja kiriku abiõpetaja Arne Hiob. Meri lapsed ei olnud sel õhtul Türil ja Natus oli kodus, Kreutzwaldi tn 24 majas. Laste läbisaamine oma isaga oli hea. Ja kui Meril üldse oli sõpru, siis oli see Natus. «Me olime nagu kaks venda,» rääkis Natus oma suhetest kadunud pastoriga. Järelikult väärib sellest seltskonnast tähelepanu Hiob.
2 April 2018 02:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Vägivalla pikk vari
Kuigi pastor Harald Meri ja tema koduabilise Valve Kleini tapjaid on otsitud üheksa aastat ja sellele teemale on kulutatud ohtrasti trükimusta, on Eesti selle kümnendi kõige tuntum kuritöö karistamata. Luup üritas Türi topeltmõrva saladust lahendada.
tekst: Raivo Palmaru
Harald Meri
Sündis 23. detsembril 1917 Raasikul. Õppis kohalikus algkoolis, Tallinna Kodukeskkoolis ja 1939. aastast Konservatooriumis orelit, koorijuhtimist ja improvisatsiooni. Õpingud jäid pooleli.
1941-45 toimetas kirikutalitusi Harju-Jaani koguduses. 1954 õnnistati, 1961 sai aseõpetajaks, 1966. aastal lõpetas Usuteaduse Instituudi ja sai kõik kirikuõpetaja õigused.
Alates 1983. aastast oli Järva abipraost, praosti kt ja 1986. aastast praost. Türi koguduse õpetaja 1978. aastast surmani. 1979-1989 hooldas ka Käru kogudust.
" M a olen shokeeritud,» hüüatas Tallinna Jaani koguduse õpetaja Arne Hiob kuuldes, et Luup seostab teda Türi topeltmõrvaga. «Kuidas ma sain pärast seda olla kirikuõpetaja ja seista altaris! Selline teesklemine oleks tulnud välja.» Ta vaikis silmapilgu, ajas pea kuklasse ja lisas: «Jah, ma saan aru. Olin kogu aeg kodus, keegi ei saanud mind näha. Järelikult olin kadunud…» Niisamuti on kadunud kõik niidiotsad, mis viiksid 1990. aasta aprillis Eestit vapustanud topeltmõrva süüdlaste jälile.
Järvamaa praost Harald Meri ja tema koduabiline Valve Klein tapeti ööl vastu 5. aprilli 1990. Järgmisel ööl süüdati Türi pastoraadihoone. 6. aprilli hommikul teatas sellest Eesti Raadio. Harald Merit ega Valve Kleini pastoraadis ei olnud. Tänu juhusele avastati nende haud nädal hiljem. Lahkamine kinnitas seda, mida võis palja silmagagi näha - tegemist oli vägivaldse surmaga.
Veel enne pastori ja tema koduabilise surnukehade leidmist moodustas tollane ülemnõukogu poliitikutest erikomisjoni. Siseministeerium ja prokuratuur saatsid tapmist uurima oma parimad mehed. Kahe aasta jooksul kuulasid uurijad üle pool Türi linna, kuid kuritegu jäi avastamata. Me ei tea tänini midagi ei veretöö põhjustest ega ka inimestest, kes selle võisid korda saata.
Käesolev lugu on kirja pandud selle aasta aprillis ja mais kogutud materjali põhjal. See tugineb paarikümne inimese ütlustel (küsitletuid oli märksa rohkem). Nende hulgas oli ka eri aegadel topeltmõrvaga tegelenud politsei- ja prokuratuuri uurijaid. Ühtlasi tuli kriitilise pilguga üle vaadata teadaolevad faktid ja otsida uusi, heites kõrvale kõik eelarvamused ja emotsioonid. Selle töö tulemus ei ole kohtuotsus, vaid ainult oletus, mille põhjendatuse üle otsustagu teised.
Poliitilist motiivi ei ole
Türi topeltmõrva on püütud mitut moodi seletada. Veel enne, kui pastor Meri ja tema koduabilise surnukehad leiti, kirjutas Soome ajaleht Hymy Enn Leissonile viidates, et Valve Kleini tappis pastor Harald Meri ise. Ajendiks olnud armukadedus. See konstruktsioon kukkus kokku 14. aprillil 1990, kui Toravere karjääri tagant metsast kaevati ühisest hauast välja nii Valve Kleini kui ka Harald Meri surnukeha.
Teise oletuse kohaselt kogunud Meri andmeid 40. aastatel tegutsenud represseerijate kohta, mistõttu KGB olevat ta mõrvanud, et neid kuritegusid varjata. Sama seisukohaga esinesid hiljem Riigikogu liikmete arupärimistele vastates ka peaminister Mart Laar ja siseminister Riivo Sinijärv.
Seda versiooni on mitu aastat üksikasjalikult kontrollitud. Kuid tänini ei ole leitud mitte ühtegi inimest, kes oleks oma silmaga näinud Meri käes mingeid represseerijate nimekirju. Seetõttu on põhjust uskuda, et jutud nimekirja või koguni arhiivi olemasolust pärinevad Harald Merilt endalt.
«Meri oli jutumees, kes pidas end suuremaks poliitikuks, kui ta tegelikult oli,» ütles topeltmõrva uurinud operatiivgrupi juht Koit Pikaro Luubile. «Olen üsna kindel, et mingeid nimekirju ei ole tal kunagi olnud.» Sama meelt on mõrva hilisemad uurijad Urmas Krüger ja Vahur Metsatalu.
Ülemnõukogu erikomisjoni liikmel Enn Leissonil oli topeltmõrva põhjustest oma kujutlus, mille ta esitas nii ajakirjanduses kui ka president Lennart Merile ja peaminister Mart Siimannile saadetud kirjades. Leissoni arvates oli Meri KGB agent, kes jälitas sakslastega koostööd teinud Eesti Vabariigi kodanikke. Seetõttu olevat pastori tapnud ERSP-lastest kaitseliitlased.
Tõenäoliselt kuulis Leissongi lugu ühest kolhoosi partorgist, kelles Meri tundnud ära Saksa ketikoera (Meri enda väljend). Viimane käinud teda sõja ajal arreteerimas. Pastor andnud partorgi üles ja mees lõpetanud hiljem oma elu enesetapuga. Kuid selles kuulujutus võib kahelda, sest eesti mehi ei võetud Saksa välisandarmiks. Ka ei ole ühtegi märki, et sellel või mõnel samasugusel seigal oleks mingi seos Türi topeltmõrvaga.
On veel üks vandenõuteooria, mille kohaselt Paide miilitsas ja prokuratuuris tegutsenud valerahategijate jõuk. Meri saanud asja jälile, mistõttu miilitsamehed olevat ta tapnud. See seletavat ka segadust mõrvaloo uurimisel.
Jutud valerahategijate kambast pärinevad mehelt, kellel on probleeme alkoholiga. Mingitel seletamatutel asjaoludel olevat miilitsamehed näidanud talle kotte valerahaga ja käskinud ühest neist raha võtta. Kuid aus mees ei olevat võtnud ja teatanud asjast Jüri Liimile. Ent sel juhul: miks lasksid pastori ja tema koduabilise mõrvarid sama saladuse jälile saanud napsivenna tervelt tulema? Pealegi ei ole 1990. aasta jooksul Järvamaal ega terves Eestis täheldatud suuremat valeraha liikumist.
Vägivalla pikk vari
Kuigi pastor Harald Meri ja tema koduabilise Valve Kleini tapjaid on otsitud üheksa aastat ja sellele teemale on kulutatud ohtrasti trükimusta, on Eesti selle kümnendi kõige tuntum kuritöö karistamata. Luup üritas Türi topeltmõrva saladust lahendada.
tekst: Raivo Palmaru
Harald Meri
Sündis 23. detsembril 1917 Raasikul. Õppis kohalikus algkoolis, Tallinna Kodukeskkoolis ja 1939. aastast Konservatooriumis orelit, koorijuhtimist ja improvisatsiooni. Õpingud jäid pooleli.
1941-45 toimetas kirikutalitusi Harju-Jaani koguduses. 1954 õnnistati, 1961 sai aseõpetajaks, 1966. aastal lõpetas Usuteaduse Instituudi ja sai kõik kirikuõpetaja õigused.
Alates 1983. aastast oli Järva abipraost, praosti kt ja 1986. aastast praost. Türi koguduse õpetaja 1978. aastast surmani. 1979-1989 hooldas ka Käru kogudust.
" M a olen shokeeritud,» hüüatas Tallinna Jaani koguduse õpetaja Arne Hiob kuuldes, et Luup seostab teda Türi topeltmõrvaga. «Kuidas ma sain pärast seda olla kirikuõpetaja ja seista altaris! Selline teesklemine oleks tulnud välja.» Ta vaikis silmapilgu, ajas pea kuklasse ja lisas: «Jah, ma saan aru. Olin kogu aeg kodus, keegi ei saanud mind näha. Järelikult olin kadunud…» Niisamuti on kadunud kõik niidiotsad, mis viiksid 1990. aasta aprillis Eestit vapustanud topeltmõrva süüdlaste jälile.
Järvamaa praost Harald Meri ja tema koduabiline Valve Klein tapeti ööl vastu 5. aprilli 1990. Järgmisel ööl süüdati Türi pastoraadihoone. 6. aprilli hommikul teatas sellest Eesti Raadio. Harald Merit ega Valve Kleini pastoraadis ei olnud. Tänu juhusele avastati nende haud nädal hiljem. Lahkamine kinnitas seda, mida võis palja silmagagi näha - tegemist oli vägivaldse surmaga.
Veel enne pastori ja tema koduabilise surnukehade leidmist moodustas tollane ülemnõukogu poliitikutest erikomisjoni. Siseministeerium ja prokuratuur saatsid tapmist uurima oma parimad mehed. Kahe aasta jooksul kuulasid uurijad üle pool Türi linna, kuid kuritegu jäi avastamata. Me ei tea tänini midagi ei veretöö põhjustest ega ka inimestest, kes selle võisid korda saata.
Käesolev lugu on kirja pandud selle aasta aprillis ja mais kogutud materjali põhjal. See tugineb paarikümne inimese ütlustel (küsitletuid oli märksa rohkem). Nende hulgas oli ka eri aegadel topeltmõrvaga tegelenud politsei- ja prokuratuuri uurijaid. Ühtlasi tuli kriitilise pilguga üle vaadata teadaolevad faktid ja otsida uusi, heites kõrvale kõik eelarvamused ja emotsioonid. Selle töö tulemus ei ole kohtuotsus, vaid ainult oletus, mille põhjendatuse üle otsustagu teised.
Poliitilist motiivi ei ole
Türi topeltmõrva on püütud mitut moodi seletada. Veel enne, kui pastor Meri ja tema koduabilise surnukehad leiti, kirjutas Soome ajaleht Hymy Enn Leissonile viidates, et Valve Kleini tappis pastor Harald Meri ise. Ajendiks olnud armukadedus. See konstruktsioon kukkus kokku 14. aprillil 1990, kui Toravere karjääri tagant metsast kaevati ühisest hauast välja nii Valve Kleini kui ka Harald Meri surnukeha.
Teise oletuse kohaselt kogunud Meri andmeid 40. aastatel tegutsenud represseerijate kohta, mistõttu KGB olevat ta mõrvanud, et neid kuritegusid varjata. Sama seisukohaga esinesid hiljem Riigikogu liikmete arupärimistele vastates ka peaminister Mart Laar ja siseminister Riivo Sinijärv.
Seda versiooni on mitu aastat üksikasjalikult kontrollitud. Kuid tänini ei ole leitud mitte ühtegi inimest, kes oleks oma silmaga näinud Meri käes mingeid represseerijate nimekirju. Seetõttu on põhjust uskuda, et jutud nimekirja või koguni arhiivi olemasolust pärinevad Harald Merilt endalt.
«Meri oli jutumees, kes pidas end suuremaks poliitikuks, kui ta tegelikult oli,» ütles topeltmõrva uurinud operatiivgrupi juht Koit Pikaro Luubile. «Olen üsna kindel, et mingeid nimekirju ei ole tal kunagi olnud.» Sama meelt on mõrva hilisemad uurijad Urmas Krüger ja Vahur Metsatalu.
Ülemnõukogu erikomisjoni liikmel Enn Leissonil oli topeltmõrva põhjustest oma kujutlus, mille ta esitas nii ajakirjanduses kui ka president Lennart Merile ja peaminister Mart Siimannile saadetud kirjades. Leissoni arvates oli Meri KGB agent, kes jälitas sakslastega koostööd teinud Eesti Vabariigi kodanikke. Seetõttu olevat pastori tapnud ERSP-lastest kaitseliitlased.
Tõenäoliselt kuulis Leissongi lugu ühest kolhoosi partorgist, kelles Meri tundnud ära Saksa ketikoera (Meri enda väljend). Viimane käinud teda sõja ajal arreteerimas. Pastor andnud partorgi üles ja mees lõpetanud hiljem oma elu enesetapuga. Kuid selles kuulujutus võib kahelda, sest eesti mehi ei võetud Saksa välisandarmiks. Ka ei ole ühtegi märki, et sellel või mõnel samasugusel seigal oleks mingi seos Türi topeltmõrvaga.
On veel üks vandenõuteooria, mille kohaselt Paide miilitsas ja prokuratuuris tegutsenud valerahategijate jõuk. Meri saanud asja jälile, mistõttu miilitsamehed olevat ta tapnud. See seletavat ka segadust mõrvaloo uurimisel.
Jutud valerahategijate kambast pärinevad mehelt, kellel on probleeme alkoholiga. Mingitel seletamatutel asjaoludel olevat miilitsamehed näidanud talle kotte valerahaga ja käskinud ühest neist raha võtta. Kuid aus mees ei olevat võtnud ja teatanud asjast Jüri Liimile. Ent sel juhul: miks lasksid pastori ja tema koduabilise mõrvarid sama saladuse jälile saanud napsivenna tervelt tulema? Pealegi ei ole 1990. aasta jooksul Järvamaal ega terves Eestis täheldatud suuremat valeraha liikumist.
https://web.archive.org/web/19991005025705/http://postimees.ee/luup/99/11/top.shtm
2 April 2018 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lembekas
16.03.2013 14:14
Õige tähelepanek, vale koht, kuhu kirjutada.Tegin seda, paraku ei avaldatud.Küll aga vastas peatoimetaja ise.Teda tegelikult huvitab lugejate arvamus ja eelistused. Oma pahameele ja soovitused on targem postitada talle :sander.jyrjens@delfi.eeJa siia siis ka lugu, mis avaldamata jäi. Mitte kõigile meile ei anta sõnavabadust.
Juba pikemat aega on mind Rahva Hääle juures miski asi häirinud.Ei, see ei ole see, et honorari enam ei jagata.Isegi piletid kinno käivad neile üle jõu.Rasked ajad, saame aru, ega selle nänni pärast ju ei kirjutagi.Pigem ikka, et maailma asju arutada, kuulda ka teiste arvamust.
Aga just siin see kala ongi.Algas see sellest, et mingi hetk oli lehekülg täis noorukite kirjandeid.No ausalt, vaatasin mitmel korral, et ega ma ometi Noorte Häält ei loe.
Õnneks saadi sellest probleemist üle.Aga nüüd on uus mure, lihtsalt polegi enam midagi lugeda.Tõsi, mõni asjalik artikkel vahel ikka sekka juhtub, aga eks proovi neid selle muu pahna seest üles leida.Ja kui vähegi kommentaare lugeda, siis pole see ainult minu arvamus.
Kui Rahva Hääl peab miski pärast hädavajalikuks ühe ja sama “kirjamehe” üllitiste avaldamist, märkamata, et tegemist on siiski vaimse puudega inimesega, siis on selline tagant õhutamine ja inimese naerualuseks tegemine nende südametunnistuse probleem.Aga meie, lugejad, ei taha, ei viitsi ega suuda päevast päeva, kolm korda järjest avada täiesti sisutut artiklit.
Keegi lugejatest tegi hea ettepaneku, pange antud kirjamehe üllitiste ette tärn.Siis jääb meil endal valida, lugeda või mitte, naerda või nutta.
Veelgi kummalisem on aga fakt, et Delfi on ilmselt kaotanud sõnavabaduse.Kuidas muidu seletada asjaolu, et iga minu ninnu-nännu lugu avaldatakse, niipea, kui tekstis mõni prominendi nimi, kuulutatakse lugu kõlbmatuks! Milles asi, oma arvamuse eest vastutan ju ikka mina, mitte teie seal toimetuses.Vähemalt nii oli see varem.
Kas tõesti on süüdi toimetaja vahetumine.Heidi Kukk, kes julges avaldada just intrigeerivaid lugusid, on müstilisel kombel kadunud!
Kui toimetaja loeks kommentaare, oleks ta ka ise märganud, et inimesed nurisevad.Kes halva valiku, kes selle üle, et tema lugusid ei avaldata.
Samas, selge see, et nende lugemiseks pole toimetusel aega kusagilt võtta.
Lootuses, et seda kirjatükki ei peeta solvavaks, riigivaenulikuks või muuks selliseks ja et see siiski avaldatakse, esitan nüüd lugejatele küsimuse.
Kas ka teie arvates on Rahva Hääl muutunud, kas halvemaks või hoopis paremaks.?
Veel üks soovitus, autori nimi võiks olla loo juures avalehel nähtav.Las lugeja ise otsustab, keda loeb.Punkte saab aga ainult see autor, kelle lugu vähemalt 500 korda loetud ja 10 korda jagatud, ehk siis jääks ära mõttetud üllitised a´la meil on külm ja lumi on maas, miks keegi liiva ei riputa!?
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pakuks, et KGB teab. Kui Eesti Riik oleks tõsiselt huvitatud Türi kaksik- mõrva asjaolude selgitamisest, siis oleks juba ammu pandud välja "Autasu- vaevatasu" anonüümsete vihjete eest! Selle tõe teadasaamine võib kardinaalselt muuta Eesti (ka Mardi Laali) Ajalugu!
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// sellised kommentaarid ka: :D
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Harald Meri mõrv ei olnud poliitiline vaid põhjustatud isiklikest ajenditest ning pastori käes ei saanud kuidagi olla mingeid KGB agentide nimekirju,mida saaks dokumentideks lugeda.Rääkisin tollal pikalt mitme eksperdi ja uurijaga ning neil oli kaudsete tõendite kogumiga pilt väga hästi selge.Puudusid aga otsesed tõendid ja asi polnud kohtukõlbulik.Tänapäeva DNA ekspertiisidega olnuks ilmselt suht lihtne labidad ja isikud kokku panna,aga siis taolisi võimalusi polnud.Varvaraga on veidi teine lugu.Materjal tõestuseks on olemas kuid pole isikuid,kellega võrrelda.Meri asjas oli vastupidi.
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Pedagoog
16.03.2013 13:13
K-mees on fenomenaalselt rumal ja piiratud, aga samas väga produktiivne.
Kirjutada asjatundmatult, aga palju - seda ei suuda kaugeltki igaüks. Ja kui mõelda sellele et lisaks oma mannetute taieste kirjutamisele käib kodanik ka kommentaare kommenteerimas, siis tekib lausa aukartus. Õnnetuseks on ta muster väga äratuntav - peamiselt seisneb see autorile ebameeldiva kommentaari puhul risustamissüüdistuses ja totras kraaklemises.
Tegelikult on väga kahju et sellist, otsesõnu öeldes - möga üldse avaldatakse. Ilmselt ei parane asi enne kui tekib autorite hindamise võimalus.
Alati võib ka autorit nähes kirjatüki lugemisest loobuda - on närvikavale parem :
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mina arvan et selle töö tegi ära agent Nikolajev või tema käsilased . ------__
Ma ka imestan,et preemijaid ei ole,kuid kirjutajaid on palju.Kirjutatakse sellest jama,millel pole ametlikku õigustust.Ma ka ei saa aru,miks kirjamehe tekste nii palju avaldatakse?See on müstika!Näiteks ma olen ka palju materjali kirjutanud,kuid minu tekste toimetaja ei suvatse avaldada.Ka mina olen selle poolt,et kirjamehele tuleks mingiks ajaks keeld peale panna,nagu tehakse minu kirjanditega!Ma ei saa aru,mis delfis toimub?Enam ei premeerita nädala paremaid atikli avaldajaid?Toimetaja või delfi juhtkond peaks aru andma,mis toimub?
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16.03.2013 14:14
Õige tähelepanek, vale koht, kuhu kirjutada.Tegin seda, paraku ei avaldatud.Küll aga vastas peatoimetaja ise.Teda tegelikult huvitab lugejate arvamus ja eelistused. Oma pahameele ja soovitused on targem postitada talle :sander.jyrjens@delfi.eeJa siia siis ka lugu, mis avaldamata jäi. Mitte kõigile meile ei anta sõnavabadust.
Juba pikemat aega on mind Rahva Hääle juures miski asi häirinud.Ei, see ei ole see, et honorari enam ei jagata.Isegi piletid kinno käivad neile üle jõu.Rasked ajad, saame aru, ega selle nänni pärast ju ei kirjutagi.Pigem ikka, et maailma asju arutada, kuulda ka teiste arvamust.
Aga just siin see kala ongi.Algas see sellest, et mingi hetk oli lehekülg täis noorukite kirjandeid.No ausalt, vaatasin mitmel korral, et ega ma ometi Noorte Häält ei loe.
Õnneks saadi sellest probleemist üle.Aga nüüd on uus mure, lihtsalt polegi enam midagi lugeda.Tõsi, mõni asjalik artikkel vahel ikka sekka juhtub, aga eks proovi neid selle muu pahna seest üles leida.Ja kui vähegi kommentaare lugeda, siis pole see ainult minu arvamus.
Kui Rahva Hääl peab miski pärast hädavajalikuks ühe ja sama “kirjamehe” üllitiste avaldamist, märkamata, et tegemist on siiski vaimse puudega inimesega, siis on selline tagant õhutamine ja inimese naerualuseks tegemine nende südametunnistuse probleem.Aga meie, lugejad, ei taha, ei viitsi ega suuda päevast päeva, kolm korda järjest avada täiesti sisutut artiklit.
Keegi lugejatest tegi hea ettepaneku, pange antud kirjamehe üllitiste ette tärn.Siis jääb meil endal valida, lugeda või mitte, naerda või nutta.
Veelgi kummalisem on aga fakt, et Delfi on ilmselt kaotanud sõnavabaduse.Kuidas muidu seletada asjaolu, et iga minu ninnu-nännu lugu avaldatakse, niipea, kui tekstis mõni prominendi nimi, kuulutatakse lugu kõlbmatuks! Milles asi, oma arvamuse eest vastutan ju ikka mina, mitte teie seal toimetuses.Vähemalt nii oli see varem.
Kas tõesti on süüdi toimetaja vahetumine.Heidi Kukk, kes julges avaldada just intrigeerivaid lugusid, on müstilisel kombel kadunud!
Kui toimetaja loeks kommentaare, oleks ta ka ise märganud, et inimesed nurisevad.Kes halva valiku, kes selle üle, et tema lugusid ei avaldata.
Samas, selge see, et nende lugemiseks pole toimetusel aega kusagilt võtta.
Lootuses, et seda kirjatükki ei peeta solvavaks, riigivaenulikuks või muuks selliseks ja et see siiski avaldatakse, esitan nüüd lugejatele küsimuse.
Kas ka teie arvates on Rahva Hääl muutunud, kas halvemaks või hoopis paremaks.?
Veel üks soovitus, autori nimi võiks olla loo juures avalehel nähtav.Las lugeja ise otsustab, keda loeb.Punkte saab aga ainult see autor, kelle lugu vähemalt 500 korda loetud ja 10 korda jagatud, ehk siis jääks ära mõttetud üllitised a´la meil on külm ja lumi on maas, miks keegi liiva ei riputa!?
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pakuks, et KGB teab. Kui Eesti Riik oleks tõsiselt huvitatud Türi kaksik- mõrva asjaolude selgitamisest, siis oleks juba ammu pandud välja "Autasu- vaevatasu" anonüümsete vihjete eest! Selle tõe teadasaamine võib kardinaalselt muuta Eesti (ka Mardi Laali) Ajalugu!
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// sellised kommentaarid ka: :D
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Harald Meri mõrv ei olnud poliitiline vaid põhjustatud isiklikest ajenditest ning pastori käes ei saanud kuidagi olla mingeid KGB agentide nimekirju,mida saaks dokumentideks lugeda.Rääkisin tollal pikalt mitme eksperdi ja uurijaga ning neil oli kaudsete tõendite kogumiga pilt väga hästi selge.Puudusid aga otsesed tõendid ja asi polnud kohtukõlbulik.Tänapäeva DNA ekspertiisidega olnuks ilmselt suht lihtne labidad ja isikud kokku panna,aga siis taolisi võimalusi polnud.Varvaraga on veidi teine lugu.Materjal tõestuseks on olemas kuid pole isikuid,kellega võrrelda.Meri asjas oli vastupidi.
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Pedagoog
16.03.2013 13:13
K-mees on fenomenaalselt rumal ja piiratud, aga samas väga produktiivne.
Kirjutada asjatundmatult, aga palju - seda ei suuda kaugeltki igaüks. Ja kui mõelda sellele et lisaks oma mannetute taieste kirjutamisele käib kodanik ka kommentaare kommenteerimas, siis tekib lausa aukartus. Õnnetuseks on ta muster väga äratuntav - peamiselt seisneb see autorile ebameeldiva kommentaari puhul risustamissüüdistuses ja totras kraaklemises.
Tegelikult on väga kahju et sellist, otsesõnu öeldes - möga üldse avaldatakse. Ilmselt ei parane asi enne kui tekib autorite hindamise võimalus.
Alati võib ka autorit nähes kirjatüki lugemisest loobuda - on närvikavale parem :
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mina arvan et selle töö tegi ära agent Nikolajev või tema käsilased . ------__
Ma ka imestan,et preemijaid ei ole,kuid kirjutajaid on palju.Kirjutatakse sellest jama,millel pole ametlikku õigustust.Ma ka ei saa aru,miks kirjamehe tekste nii palju avaldatakse?See on müstika!Näiteks ma olen ka palju materjali kirjutanud,kuid minu tekste toimetaja ei suvatse avaldada.Ka mina olen selle poolt,et kirjamehele tuleks mingiks ajaks keeld peale panna,nagu tehakse minu kirjanditega!Ma ei saa aru,mis delfis toimub?Enam ei premeerita nädala paremaid atikli avaldajaid?Toimetaja või delfi juhtkond peaks aru andma,mis toimub?
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2 April 2018 02:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Leo918
17.03.2013 09:45
Vastaks Lembekale.
Üks variant kogu see "jama" lahendada, on rahvaajakirjanike ühisrinne ja siit lahkumine. Koos täiega, koos oma lugejatega ja uue portaali tegemine. Lihtsalt "Rahva Hääl" koos kõikide alammenüüdega. Et ei ole lihtne? Ükski asi pole lihtne, aga see on võimalik, kui saab kokku kriitilise massi asjahuvilisi.
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Nii kurb jah, et "meie ülemus" - endine RH toimetaja - , meid maha jättis. Ta vaatas nii toreda kavala näoga siin vastu, nagu tahaks öelda: loe ikka hoolikalt oma "jura" enne läbi, kui enterit vajutad...
:)
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Esimese punkti juurde tagasi, siis ettevõtluse(portaali loomine ja töös hoidmine) poole pealt: seda saab alustada minu arust kahte moodi, nii emotsiooni pealt(aitab, kopp on ees!), kui ka "kriitilise piiri saavutanud jamade - asjade, mida võiks teha paremini ja efektiivsemalt - pika nimekirja" alusel.
Seletav näide oma kogemusest: tootmistöölised lahkusid firmast ja tegid oma firmad, sest ühtedel oli "kapitalisti nuumamisest" kopp ees (emotsioon) ja teistel oli mitu "aa-nelja" täis kirjutatud "lollusi, mida peab vältima". Sellest on juba 10 a ja mõlemad firmad on elus.
Ja emafirma on ka elus, nii, et liiga palju häid(igaüks omal viisil) inimesi ei mahtunud ühte kohta ära:)
Ilusat pühapäeva!
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Enn Kaljo
24.11.2013 12:31
Lennart ja Harald Meri polnud sugulased, seda tean küll, sest mu ema suguvõsas on Meri sugulased ja Harald oli sealt pärit...
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Türilt
16.03.2013 15:10
maeti liivakärjääri Kolu kandis ja olid lubjaga üle kallatud ja vist olevat põlved ka vigastatud-- kogemata imekombel leiti üles ja majale pandi tuli otsa ja seal krundil on nüüd Säästukas... Üks Meri nimeline uppus, või uputati Lätis ära-- ei mina tea , kas sugulased. Kohalikele tobukestele käidi valitsuse tasandil väga totraid küsimusi esitamas ja need ,kes miskit aimasid-- need olid kuss
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Peeter T.
16.03.2013 12:37
Kirjamees! Asjad ei ole alati nii must-valged, kui meedia seda paista laseb. Mõrvade uurimisega ei tegele üks inimene, vaid uurimisgrupp. Läbi uuritakse sajad niidiotsad ja kuulatakse üle kümned tunnistajad. Kõiki kuritegusid pole võimalik lahendada kuumadel jälgedel. Selle mõistmiseks peaksid minema politseikooli, töötama uurijana ja siis ehk hakkaksid mõistma, mida raskete kuritegude lahendamine tähendab. Sinu praegune jutt on tühi ja koosneb vaid sõnakõlksudest.
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Teatavasti sai Harald Merile saatuslikuks see, et mees ähvardas raadio kaudu avaldada KGB-tegelaste nimekirjad. Sel ajal oli presidendiks Lennart Meri.
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Meri mõrvaga on seotud kirikumees Arne Hiob.
http://zzz.ee/index.php/Harald_Meri
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mingi aferist sai eelmise kommi kustutatud.aga soovin lisada,et meri mõrva uurinud prokurör töötab praegu riigiprokuratuuris.tubli mees,kõvad saavutused,teistele eeskujuks juba 20 aastat.
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neile pudilõugadele,kes suuga teevad suure linna.võtke teadmiseks,et see maja asus minu majast saja meetri kaugusel ja mäletan kuidas kaks päeva hiljem seal tulekahju puhkes.tunnen ka arne hiobit ja tema laimamine on kellegi vaimuhaige tegu.õigupoolest,kes see tõbras just hiobi peale näpuga näitab,kas me oleme kohtunud???
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Hiiobi laimamisega tegeles omal ajal Raivo Palmaru http://www.postimees.ee/luup/99/11/top.shtm.
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raivo_Palmaru
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Eks Palmaru tegi seda mida kästi. Inimene tegi oma tööd.
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Mõrvarid pidid olema PROFID! s.t. et TELLIMUSMÕRV! Ja nad ei pruukinud ohvreid tundagi. Lisaks on teada et üks-kaks meest ei saanuks 2 meetrise haua kaevamise ja kinniajamisega öö jooksul hakkama lisaks veel piinamisele kulunud aeg. Tollaste kuulujuttude alusel olevat nende maja ees seisnud kaks volgat!
Hauda puistatud kloorikiht aga pärinenud Paide Lihakombinaadist
Mõrvareid tasub otsida nende seast kes algatasid kuulujutu Meri ja Kleini Rootsi sõitmisest enne maja põlemaminekut! Ja see kuulujutt ei olnud rahva legend, see oli ametlikest allikatest mida olevat kinnitanud ka piirivalve.
Kogu selle jama kinnimätsimise juures on ainult üks küsimus: KELLELE OLI SEE KASULIK?
Selle mõistmiseks tasub aga ette võtta 1941 ja 1949 aasta võimulolijate ja küüditajate nimekirjad!
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kaineks või võta roheline tablett ära!
Ja mis puutuvad siia " 1941 ja 1949 aasta võimulolijate ja küüditajate nimekirjad" ?
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17.03.2013 09:45
Vastaks Lembekale.
Üks variant kogu see "jama" lahendada, on rahvaajakirjanike ühisrinne ja siit lahkumine. Koos täiega, koos oma lugejatega ja uue portaali tegemine. Lihtsalt "Rahva Hääl" koos kõikide alammenüüdega. Et ei ole lihtne? Ükski asi pole lihtne, aga see on võimalik, kui saab kokku kriitilise massi asjahuvilisi.
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Nii kurb jah, et "meie ülemus" - endine RH toimetaja - , meid maha jättis. Ta vaatas nii toreda kavala näoga siin vastu, nagu tahaks öelda: loe ikka hoolikalt oma "jura" enne läbi, kui enterit vajutad...
:)
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Esimese punkti juurde tagasi, siis ettevõtluse(portaali loomine ja töös hoidmine) poole pealt: seda saab alustada minu arust kahte moodi, nii emotsiooni pealt(aitab, kopp on ees!), kui ka "kriitilise piiri saavutanud jamade - asjade, mida võiks teha paremini ja efektiivsemalt - pika nimekirja" alusel.
Seletav näide oma kogemusest: tootmistöölised lahkusid firmast ja tegid oma firmad, sest ühtedel oli "kapitalisti nuumamisest" kopp ees (emotsioon) ja teistel oli mitu "aa-nelja" täis kirjutatud "lollusi, mida peab vältima". Sellest on juba 10 a ja mõlemad firmad on elus.
Ja emafirma on ka elus, nii, et liiga palju häid(igaüks omal viisil) inimesi ei mahtunud ühte kohta ära:)
Ilusat pühapäeva!
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Enn Kaljo
24.11.2013 12:31
Lennart ja Harald Meri polnud sugulased, seda tean küll, sest mu ema suguvõsas on Meri sugulased ja Harald oli sealt pärit...
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Türilt
16.03.2013 15:10
maeti liivakärjääri Kolu kandis ja olid lubjaga üle kallatud ja vist olevat põlved ka vigastatud-- kogemata imekombel leiti üles ja majale pandi tuli otsa ja seal krundil on nüüd Säästukas... Üks Meri nimeline uppus, või uputati Lätis ära-- ei mina tea , kas sugulased. Kohalikele tobukestele käidi valitsuse tasandil väga totraid küsimusi esitamas ja need ,kes miskit aimasid-- need olid kuss
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Peeter T.
16.03.2013 12:37
Kirjamees! Asjad ei ole alati nii must-valged, kui meedia seda paista laseb. Mõrvade uurimisega ei tegele üks inimene, vaid uurimisgrupp. Läbi uuritakse sajad niidiotsad ja kuulatakse üle kümned tunnistajad. Kõiki kuritegusid pole võimalik lahendada kuumadel jälgedel. Selle mõistmiseks peaksid minema politseikooli, töötama uurijana ja siis ehk hakkaksid mõistma, mida raskete kuritegude lahendamine tähendab. Sinu praegune jutt on tühi ja koosneb vaid sõnakõlksudest.
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Teatavasti sai Harald Merile saatuslikuks see, et mees ähvardas raadio kaudu avaldada KGB-tegelaste nimekirjad. Sel ajal oli presidendiks Lennart Meri.
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Meri mõrvaga on seotud kirikumees Arne Hiob.
http://zzz.ee/index.php/Harald_Meri
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mingi aferist sai eelmise kommi kustutatud.aga soovin lisada,et meri mõrva uurinud prokurör töötab praegu riigiprokuratuuris.tubli mees,kõvad saavutused,teistele eeskujuks juba 20 aastat.
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neile pudilõugadele,kes suuga teevad suure linna.võtke teadmiseks,et see maja asus minu majast saja meetri kaugusel ja mäletan kuidas kaks päeva hiljem seal tulekahju puhkes.tunnen ka arne hiobit ja tema laimamine on kellegi vaimuhaige tegu.õigupoolest,kes see tõbras just hiobi peale näpuga näitab,kas me oleme kohtunud???
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Hiiobi laimamisega tegeles omal ajal Raivo Palmaru http://www.postimees.ee/luup/99/11/top.shtm.
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raivo_Palmaru
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Eks Palmaru tegi seda mida kästi. Inimene tegi oma tööd.
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Mõrvarid pidid olema PROFID! s.t. et TELLIMUSMÕRV! Ja nad ei pruukinud ohvreid tundagi. Lisaks on teada et üks-kaks meest ei saanuks 2 meetrise haua kaevamise ja kinniajamisega öö jooksul hakkama lisaks veel piinamisele kulunud aeg. Tollaste kuulujuttude alusel olevat nende maja ees seisnud kaks volgat!
Hauda puistatud kloorikiht aga pärinenud Paide Lihakombinaadist
Mõrvareid tasub otsida nende seast kes algatasid kuulujutu Meri ja Kleini Rootsi sõitmisest enne maja põlemaminekut! Ja see kuulujutt ei olnud rahva legend, see oli ametlikest allikatest mida olevat kinnitanud ka piirivalve.
Kogu selle jama kinnimätsimise juures on ainult üks küsimus: KELLELE OLI SEE KASULIK?
Selle mõistmiseks tasub aga ette võtta 1941 ja 1949 aasta võimulolijate ja küüditajate nimekirjad!
------_
kaineks või võta roheline tablett ära!
Ja mis puutuvad siia " 1941 ja 1949 aasta võimulolijate ja küüditajate nimekirjad" ?
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http://zzz.ee/index.php/Harald_Meri
2 April 2018 02:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://rahvahaal.delfi.ee/news/uudised/pastor-harald-meri-ja-tema-koduabilise-valve-kleini-morv-on-samuti-siiani-lahenduseta?id=65829226
Pastor Harald Meri ja tema koduabilise Valve Kleini mõrv on samuti siiani lahenduseta (74)
Mitmeid kordi on räägitud Varvara mõrvaga seonduvast ja räägiti ka 15. märtsil uudistes, et see mõrvajuhtum on siiani lahenduseta ning kahtlusaluseid leitud pole siiani. Politsei tegelevat uurimisega pingsalt. Kui pingsalt on politsei tegelenud Türi pastori Harald Meri ja tema koduabilise Valve Kleini mõrva uurimisega? Sellest on möödas paarkümmend aastat ja asi on unustatud.
Miks on nii, et kui tegemist on niiöelda riikliku tähtsusega kurjategijaga, et siis pannakse riigis teed kinni et kurjategija lähema tunni jooksul tabada, kuid samas ei suudeta Varvara mõrvarit tabada?
Siinkohal meenub ka näiteks kunagine Türi pastori Harald Meri ja tema koduabilise Valve Kleini koletu mõrv.
Teatavasti sai Harald Merile saatuslikuks see, et mees ähvardas raadio kaudu avaldada KGB-tegelaste nimekirjad. Sel ajal oli presidendiks Lennart Meri.
Tol ajal räägiti sedagi, et mõrvarid pidid olema tuttavad, sest Harald Meri koer polevat haukunud ning ekspertiis on selgitanud välja sellegi, et Harald Meril ja Valve Kleinil oli maha matmise ajal veel eluvaim sees. Klein koristati teelt sel põhjusel, et mõrva tunnistajat ei jääks. Avaldati arvamust, et mõrvaga võisid seotud olla tollase valitsuse tegelased, kes kartsid oma mineviku päevavalgele toomist. Seda kõike on meedias räägitud.
Tänaseks on see koletu veretöö ammu unustatud ja sellest ei räägita.
Kui Harald Meri ja Valve Kleini mõrva taga võisid olla poliitilised jõud, siis miks Varvara mõrva pole suudetud lahendada ja kahtlusalust leida?
Varvara alastikistud surnukeha olla leitud ju mingi kaamera vaateväljast. Milleks siis kaamerad üleval on, kui nad ei suuda kuritegude puhul tõendeid jäädvustada?
Pastor Harald Meri ja tema koduabilise Valve Kleini mõrv on samuti siiani lahenduseta (74)
Mitmeid kordi on räägitud Varvara mõrvaga seonduvast ja räägiti ka 15. märtsil uudistes, et see mõrvajuhtum on siiani lahenduseta ning kahtlusaluseid leitud pole siiani. Politsei tegelevat uurimisega pingsalt. Kui pingsalt on politsei tegelenud Türi pastori Harald Meri ja tema koduabilise Valve Kleini mõrva uurimisega? Sellest on möödas paarkümmend aastat ja asi on unustatud.
Miks on nii, et kui tegemist on niiöelda riikliku tähtsusega kurjategijaga, et siis pannakse riigis teed kinni et kurjategija lähema tunni jooksul tabada, kuid samas ei suudeta Varvara mõrvarit tabada?
Siinkohal meenub ka näiteks kunagine Türi pastori Harald Meri ja tema koduabilise Valve Kleini koletu mõrv.
Teatavasti sai Harald Merile saatuslikuks see, et mees ähvardas raadio kaudu avaldada KGB-tegelaste nimekirjad. Sel ajal oli presidendiks Lennart Meri.
Tol ajal räägiti sedagi, et mõrvarid pidid olema tuttavad, sest Harald Meri koer polevat haukunud ning ekspertiis on selgitanud välja sellegi, et Harald Meril ja Valve Kleinil oli maha matmise ajal veel eluvaim sees. Klein koristati teelt sel põhjusel, et mõrva tunnistajat ei jääks. Avaldati arvamust, et mõrvaga võisid seotud olla tollase valitsuse tegelased, kes kartsid oma mineviku päevavalgele toomist. Seda kõike on meedias räägitud.
Tänaseks on see koletu veretöö ammu unustatud ja sellest ei räägita.
Kui Harald Meri ja Valve Kleini mõrva taga võisid olla poliitilised jõud, siis miks Varvara mõrva pole suudetud lahendada ja kahtlusalust leida?
Varvara alastikistud surnukeha olla leitud ju mingi kaamera vaateväljast. Milleks siis kaamerad üleval on, kui nad ei suuda kuritegude puhul tõendeid jäädvustada?
http://rahvahaal.delfi.ee/news/uudised/pastor-harald-meri-ja-tema-koduabilise-valve-kleini-morv-on-samuti-siiani-lahenduseta?id=65829226
2 April 2018 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.palverand.ee/kautla/
Kautla
Kautla suurtalu Harju- ja Järvamaa piiril asus soosaarel keset soid ja rabasid ja seda pidas Lindemannide pere koos oma abitöölistega. Koht on märgitud juba 1574. aastal (dorp Kautell). Metsateed hargnesid sealt Ardusse, Järva-Madisele ja Voosele. Geograafiline asukoht ja pererahva eestimeelsus olid põhjuseks, miks sinna koondusid ka ümbruskonna mehed, kes olid kõrvale hoidnud mobilisatsioonist Punaarmeesse (30. juunil 1919.–1922. a. sündinuile ja 20. juulil 1907.–1918. a. sündinuile). Paljud olid koos perega – naiste ja lastega. Üldse arvatakse seal olnud ligi 2000 inimest.
Taustaks
Ööl vastu 10. juulit 1941 maabub Kolga lahe rannikul Salmistus kolonel Henn-Ants Kure juhtimisel Erna rühm. Tullakse Soomest Soome alustega. Suundutakse läbi metsade Kautlasse nii märkamatult kui võimalik, et mitte sattuda kontakti Punaväega. Kuna mõnel Soome alusel ilmnevad probleemid mootoritega, pöördub osa neist tagasi koos pardal olnud ernalastega. 22. juulil hakatakse Soome jäänud ernalasi Eestisse toimetama lennukitega.
Juuli keskel ühineb Kautlas kolonel Kure rühmaga Tapa rajoonis dislotseerunud Eesti ratsaväelaste grupp (erinevail andmeil u. 15 meest), kes deserteerusid nüüd juba Punaväest. Eesti ratsaväelased kandsid veel vabariigiaegset vormi, mille püksid olid punased.
Aluseks hävituspataljonide loomisele oli 24. juunil 1941 Moskvas välja antud vastav seadlus. Eesti NSV-s hakati parteiaktiivi poolt looma relvastatud kaitsesalku ja hiljem Saksa-maa–NSVL sõja alguspäevil hävituspataljone. Eesti NSV hävituspataljonide operatiivgrupi ülemaks oli alguses Balti Piirivalveringkonna ülem kindral Rakutin ning viimaseks 1941. aastal kapten Mihhail Pasternak. Suureks abiks olid tihti kohalikud kommunistid, kes tundsid inimesi ja ümbruskonda. Nende motiivid oma rahva reetmisel olid erinevad, alates isklikust kättemaksust ja ulatudes nii-öelda seinast seina.
Verised metsikused
Öeldakse, et kus tegijaid, seal nägijaid. Nii ka antud juhul.
Kuigi vaadeldaval ajal toimus juba Eesti NSV-st evakueerimine ja kaitse organiseerimine, pidi olema nägijaid Kolga lahes randunud meestele, deserteerunud punapükstes ratsa-väelastele, võõraste lennukite liikumisele rinde suunas, neilt alla heidetud meestele, mobilisatsioonidest kõrvale hoidnuile jne. Kõiki andmeid reastades ja koputajate infot analüüsides polnud eriti raske määratleda nende võimalikku koondumiskohta.
31. juuliks on koondatud 1000-meheline sõjaväeosa Ardusse ning Viljandi ja Tallinna hävituspataljonid vastavalt Paunkülla ja Voosele. Hommikul kella 8–9 vahel algab haarang.
Voose poolt juhatab hävituspataljoni mööda metsateid Kautlasse naaberküla Paluküla jõuka Hansu talu peretütar Alma Noorväli. Mõni kilomeeter enne Kautlat oli Sae metsavahikoht, kus pidas metsavahiametit Alma sugulane koos abikaasaga. Praegu on sellest kohast järel ainult vundament ja juba metsaga ühte sulanduvad suured taluõue puud. Nähtavasti sai metsavahi ja tema naise saatuse määrajaks organite mitteteavitamine, võis aga olla ka midagi isiklikku. Hilisem ülevaatus tuvastas, et mõlemad olid lehmakettidega voodi külge seotud ja elusalt põletatud. Seda oma sugulase juuresolekul.
Siiski leidus teine ohusõnumi Kautlasse viija Voose poolt – pooleteisteaastase tütre ema Hildegard Papp liikus mööda Luurimäge. Kautlas asusid tol hetkel tema abikaasa Osvald ja vend Albert Poomann.
Paunküla poolt jõudis keegi noor naine viia Kautlasse sõnumi Paunküla suunalt alanud haarangu kohta. Kolonel Kurg määras sellele suunale laagri evakueerimist katma leitnant Oleg Marnoti koos väikese relvastatud rühmaga. Laagri kõrgest organiseeritusest annab tunnistust tsiviilelanikkonna ohvriteta väljaviimine „kotist” ja kohalike meeste võimalikest konfliktijärgsetest koondumiskohtadest. Oli langenuid, teiste hulgas ka leitnant Marnot.
Voose meeste koondumiskoht oli Anna surnuaed. Kurva tõsiasjana ilmnes, et mingil viisil (Albert Poomanni sõnul) oli nende hulgas äraandja ja peagi tuli astuda lahingusse Ardus olevate punaväelastega. Voose rühm hajus laiali, osa jäi siiski metsavendadeks kuni Stalini surmani 1953. aastal. Nende hulgas ka Albert ja Osvald.
Ametlikes aruannetes kuulutati Erna rühm hävitatuks, ometi suutis see piiramisrõngast välja murda ja tsiviilisikutele pagemiseks võimaluse anda. Erna salk koos osa metsavendadega läks ülekaaluka vastasega lahinguid pidades 4. augustil üle rindejoone.
Kautla suurtalu hävitamise kõrvalt hävitati nagu muu seas ehk kättemaksuks veel 37 talu.
Aasta hiljem, 19. juulil 1942, avati Kautlas Erna salga ja metsavendade ühisel tegutse-mispaigal põllukivist mälestusmärk, millele oli raiutud tekst: „Siit tormati lahingutesse bolševismi vägivalla vastu 19. juulil 1941. a. Grupp „ERNA” ja „Metsavennad”.”
Nõukogude okupatsiooni taaskehtestamisel mälestuskivi hävitati, kuid mitte lõplikult. 1989. aastal taastati mälestusmärk Muinsuskaitse Seltsi ettevõtmisel juba memoriaalina. Pühitseti 30. juulil Järvamaa praosti Harald Meri poolt.
Oli juba uus, leebem aeg. Aga see, mis järgnes, oli hoiatus meie rahvale. Septembris 1989 purustati memoriaali kivid ja valati üle punase värviga. Poole aasta pärast, 5. aprillil 1990. aastal tapeti uskumatult jõhkralt praost Harald Meri koos koduabilise Valve Kleiniga. Praosti maja Türil pandi põlema. Nende laibad leiti 14. aprillil. Ilmselt oli tegu palgamõrvaritega, kes kadusid Venemaa avarustesse. See oli selge katse tekitada rahvas hirmu.
Uus, taastatud memoriaal avati 4. augustil 1990. aastal väga suure rahvahulga osavõtul ja seekord oli pühitsemas juba neli vaimulikku.
Erna grupi võitlustee tähistamiseks korraldati aastatel 1996–2011 igal aastal sõjaväelisi maastikuvõistlusi, mis muutusid rahvusvahelisteks.
Ago Papp
http://rahvusarhiiv.ra.ee/public/TUNA/Artiklid/2011/Tuna_2011_2.pdf
http://www.hot.ee/tkirik/dessant.htm
Kautla
Kautla suurtalu Harju- ja Järvamaa piiril asus soosaarel keset soid ja rabasid ja seda pidas Lindemannide pere koos oma abitöölistega. Koht on märgitud juba 1574. aastal (dorp Kautell). Metsateed hargnesid sealt Ardusse, Järva-Madisele ja Voosele. Geograafiline asukoht ja pererahva eestimeelsus olid põhjuseks, miks sinna koondusid ka ümbruskonna mehed, kes olid kõrvale hoidnud mobilisatsioonist Punaarmeesse (30. juunil 1919.–1922. a. sündinuile ja 20. juulil 1907.–1918. a. sündinuile). Paljud olid koos perega – naiste ja lastega. Üldse arvatakse seal olnud ligi 2000 inimest.
Taustaks
Ööl vastu 10. juulit 1941 maabub Kolga lahe rannikul Salmistus kolonel Henn-Ants Kure juhtimisel Erna rühm. Tullakse Soomest Soome alustega. Suundutakse läbi metsade Kautlasse nii märkamatult kui võimalik, et mitte sattuda kontakti Punaväega. Kuna mõnel Soome alusel ilmnevad probleemid mootoritega, pöördub osa neist tagasi koos pardal olnud ernalastega. 22. juulil hakatakse Soome jäänud ernalasi Eestisse toimetama lennukitega.
Juuli keskel ühineb Kautlas kolonel Kure rühmaga Tapa rajoonis dislotseerunud Eesti ratsaväelaste grupp (erinevail andmeil u. 15 meest), kes deserteerusid nüüd juba Punaväest. Eesti ratsaväelased kandsid veel vabariigiaegset vormi, mille püksid olid punased.
Aluseks hävituspataljonide loomisele oli 24. juunil 1941 Moskvas välja antud vastav seadlus. Eesti NSV-s hakati parteiaktiivi poolt looma relvastatud kaitsesalku ja hiljem Saksa-maa–NSVL sõja alguspäevil hävituspataljone. Eesti NSV hävituspataljonide operatiivgrupi ülemaks oli alguses Balti Piirivalveringkonna ülem kindral Rakutin ning viimaseks 1941. aastal kapten Mihhail Pasternak. Suureks abiks olid tihti kohalikud kommunistid, kes tundsid inimesi ja ümbruskonda. Nende motiivid oma rahva reetmisel olid erinevad, alates isklikust kättemaksust ja ulatudes nii-öelda seinast seina.
Verised metsikused
Öeldakse, et kus tegijaid, seal nägijaid. Nii ka antud juhul.
Kuigi vaadeldaval ajal toimus juba Eesti NSV-st evakueerimine ja kaitse organiseerimine, pidi olema nägijaid Kolga lahes randunud meestele, deserteerunud punapükstes ratsa-väelastele, võõraste lennukite liikumisele rinde suunas, neilt alla heidetud meestele, mobilisatsioonidest kõrvale hoidnuile jne. Kõiki andmeid reastades ja koputajate infot analüüsides polnud eriti raske määratleda nende võimalikku koondumiskohta.
31. juuliks on koondatud 1000-meheline sõjaväeosa Ardusse ning Viljandi ja Tallinna hävituspataljonid vastavalt Paunkülla ja Voosele. Hommikul kella 8–9 vahel algab haarang.
Voose poolt juhatab hävituspataljoni mööda metsateid Kautlasse naaberküla Paluküla jõuka Hansu talu peretütar Alma Noorväli. Mõni kilomeeter enne Kautlat oli Sae metsavahikoht, kus pidas metsavahiametit Alma sugulane koos abikaasaga. Praegu on sellest kohast järel ainult vundament ja juba metsaga ühte sulanduvad suured taluõue puud. Nähtavasti sai metsavahi ja tema naise saatuse määrajaks organite mitteteavitamine, võis aga olla ka midagi isiklikku. Hilisem ülevaatus tuvastas, et mõlemad olid lehmakettidega voodi külge seotud ja elusalt põletatud. Seda oma sugulase juuresolekul.
Siiski leidus teine ohusõnumi Kautlasse viija Voose poolt – pooleteisteaastase tütre ema Hildegard Papp liikus mööda Luurimäge. Kautlas asusid tol hetkel tema abikaasa Osvald ja vend Albert Poomann.
Paunküla poolt jõudis keegi noor naine viia Kautlasse sõnumi Paunküla suunalt alanud haarangu kohta. Kolonel Kurg määras sellele suunale laagri evakueerimist katma leitnant Oleg Marnoti koos väikese relvastatud rühmaga. Laagri kõrgest organiseeritusest annab tunnistust tsiviilelanikkonna ohvriteta väljaviimine „kotist” ja kohalike meeste võimalikest konfliktijärgsetest koondumiskohtadest. Oli langenuid, teiste hulgas ka leitnant Marnot.
Voose meeste koondumiskoht oli Anna surnuaed. Kurva tõsiasjana ilmnes, et mingil viisil (Albert Poomanni sõnul) oli nende hulgas äraandja ja peagi tuli astuda lahingusse Ardus olevate punaväelastega. Voose rühm hajus laiali, osa jäi siiski metsavendadeks kuni Stalini surmani 1953. aastal. Nende hulgas ka Albert ja Osvald.
Ametlikes aruannetes kuulutati Erna rühm hävitatuks, ometi suutis see piiramisrõngast välja murda ja tsiviilisikutele pagemiseks võimaluse anda. Erna salk koos osa metsavendadega läks ülekaaluka vastasega lahinguid pidades 4. augustil üle rindejoone.
Kautla suurtalu hävitamise kõrvalt hävitati nagu muu seas ehk kättemaksuks veel 37 talu.
Aasta hiljem, 19. juulil 1942, avati Kautlas Erna salga ja metsavendade ühisel tegutse-mispaigal põllukivist mälestusmärk, millele oli raiutud tekst: „Siit tormati lahingutesse bolševismi vägivalla vastu 19. juulil 1941. a. Grupp „ERNA” ja „Metsavennad”.”
Nõukogude okupatsiooni taaskehtestamisel mälestuskivi hävitati, kuid mitte lõplikult. 1989. aastal taastati mälestusmärk Muinsuskaitse Seltsi ettevõtmisel juba memoriaalina. Pühitseti 30. juulil Järvamaa praosti Harald Meri poolt.
Oli juba uus, leebem aeg. Aga see, mis järgnes, oli hoiatus meie rahvale. Septembris 1989 purustati memoriaali kivid ja valati üle punase värviga. Poole aasta pärast, 5. aprillil 1990. aastal tapeti uskumatult jõhkralt praost Harald Meri koos koduabilise Valve Kleiniga. Praosti maja Türil pandi põlema. Nende laibad leiti 14. aprillil. Ilmselt oli tegu palgamõrvaritega, kes kadusid Venemaa avarustesse. See oli selge katse tekitada rahvas hirmu.
Uus, taastatud memoriaal avati 4. augustil 1990. aastal väga suure rahvahulga osavõtul ja seekord oli pühitsemas juba neli vaimulikku.
Erna grupi võitlustee tähistamiseks korraldati aastatel 1996–2011 igal aastal sõjaväelisi maastikuvõistlusi, mis muutusid rahvusvahelisteks.
Ago Papp
http://rahvusarhiiv.ra.ee/public/TUNA/Artiklid/2011/Tuna_2011_2.pdf
http://www.hot.ee/tkirik/dessant.htm
http://www.palverand.ee/kautla/
2 April 2018 02:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
//lihtsalt sünkroniseerimiseks päris meediaga hiljem aegu
2 April 2018 01:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
huvitav järjwidev error selle video ekraani pildiga
2 April 2018 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
polegi teatrisse saanud, päris hea vaatamine
1 April 2018 21:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
on st
1 April 2018 20:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid see piibel oli päris hea
1 April 2018 20:44
Margus Meigo commented on Ardi Tedrekin's video.
onn ikka lugu, kas see on tulnukinimeste tgeelik keel ?
Saad aru need inimesed kes ise lipsuvee lkannavad ja soovitavad tegevust mida endale head usuvad olema.. aga ise kannavad veel listi või kinni ilmselgetes piirangutes,siis see nii muretsema paneb.. et mida need pakuvad ja mis see ristiine on, mida nad läbiviivad
Saad aru need inimesed kes ise lipsuvee lkannavad ja soovitavad tegevust mida endale head usuvad olema.. aga ise kannavad veel listi või kinni ilmselgetes piirangutes,siis see nii muretsema paneb.. et mida need pakuvad ja mis see ristiine on, mida nad läbiviivad
1 April 2018 20:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kokkuvõte ka Jutuloona, spektrumina, kogu viimase10 postituse ja kommentaaride summa kus lõputiitrite jaoks lõppeb laulu, mis leiad sõnadega "Meile kuuluvad need"
muu vahele panna omas järjekordis ja vajalike piltidega + veel sonumite sisu ja muu tegevuse kirjeldusega samal ajal, siis üks seeria juba olemas, pilt potensiaalselt päevaplaanist, ja
muu vahele panna omas järjekordis ja vajalike piltidega + veel sonumite sisu ja muu tegevuse kirjeldusega samal ajal, siis üks seeria juba olemas, pilt potensiaalselt päevaplaanist, ja
1 April 2018 19:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ühesõnaga point on, et sümpaatseid inimesi küll ja veel, aeg mahamatta meie mineviku legendid vastavalt nende panusele ja minevikule, nende julgusele armastuseja puhtuse, õigluse poolel olla nii elus kui tegudes
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Tasmed mis meie aega kandunud veel..
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=gMOKL1j8MVM
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Tasmed mis meie aega kandunud veel..
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=gMOKL1j8MVM
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=gMOKL1j8MVM
1 April 2018 19:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei ütle ma midagi, pole võimalik ki veel
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=_aufMlA8hQw
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=_aufMlA8hQw
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=_aufMlA8hQw
1 April 2018 19:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=gadgzvtG_K4
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=gadgzvtG_K4
1 April 2018 19:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Meil itaever ja E. Tamm & whatever, vanast ajast sobiks, Aabel ja
oih
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=DTPMA-I-uWk
oih
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=DTPMA-I-uWk
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=DTPMA-I-uWk
1 April 2018 19:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://etv.err.ee/v/eesti/9441b750-0d8e-4c50-8e1e-0c30e0c52f5f/ainsa-eestlasena-aatomienergiaagentuuris-tootav-naine-raakis-pealtnagijale-oma-ametist
https://etv.err.ee/v/eesti/9441b750-0d8e-4c50-8e1e-0c30e0c52f5f/ainsa-eestlasena-aatomienergiaagentuuris-tootav-naine-raakis-pealtnagijale-oma-ametist
1 April 2018 18:48
Margus Meigo replied to Frederick Joseph Paulse's comment.
... edited
1 April 2018 18:39
Margus Meigo replied to Frederick Joseph Paulse's comment.
training
1 April 2018 18:38
Margus Meigo replied to Frederick Joseph Paulse's comment.
Heey! Good to see ya online, i did some direct TV ideology removing tricky
1 April 2018 18:37
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
Will tell in moment, it is Huge
1 April 2018 18:37
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Kui nii juhtuks, siis see oleks hullem kui
:"Jaapani kaitseminister teatas, et Hiroshima ja Nagasaki katastroof päästis tema kodumaa Nõukogude okupatsioonist, ja see avaldus maksis talle ametikoha."
Praktilist tõde mida endale kaela toodi, et ennast päästa, suures plaanis, ei kannatatud välja, kuid samas lipsud said nad ikka kaela ja need magusalt neil sees sääl ja .. kuideks mingid alusjuured jäid rohkem alles ja mingid tarkused, mille jaoks ehk varsti siin ärvele tulev rahvas valmis on.
St meie praktilisus, saksa kuulekus, n liidu jultumus julgus ja jaapani loodus ja energia tarkused mis neil teiste kutluuride osas alles jäid oma seltskonda.. et need me saaksime siin tavaõppeks Eesti koolides teha uuel eajastu koolil kui need saab tõestatud
//kuidseda häbi mis telekas juhtus, et ing keeleläbi Jaapani inimesega räägime, seda küll tähtsate inimeste puhul ei sobi teha kuidagi. Meil keelejärgiaid küll.
https://www.saartehaal.ee/2007/07/13/hullem-kui-tuumapomm
:"Jaapani kaitseminister teatas, et Hiroshima ja Nagasaki katastroof päästis tema kodumaa Nõukogude okupatsioonist, ja see avaldus maksis talle ametikoha."
Praktilist tõde mida endale kaela toodi, et ennast päästa, suures plaanis, ei kannatatud välja, kuid samas lipsud said nad ikka kaela ja need magusalt neil sees sääl ja .. kuideks mingid alusjuured jäid rohkem alles ja mingid tarkused, mille jaoks ehk varsti siin ärvele tulev rahvas valmis on.
St meie praktilisus, saksa kuulekus, n liidu jultumus julgus ja jaapani loodus ja energia tarkused mis neil teiste kutluuride osas alles jäid oma seltskonda.. et need me saaksime siin tavaõppeks Eesti koolides teha uuel eajastu koolil kui need saab tõestatud
//kuidseda häbi mis telekas juhtus, et ing keeleläbi Jaapani inimesega räägime, seda küll tähtsate inimeste puhul ei sobi teha kuidagi. Meil keelejärgiaid küll.
https://www.saartehaal.ee/2007/07/13/hullem-kui-tuumapomm
https://www.saartehaal.ee/2007/07/13/hullem-kui-tuumapomm
1 April 2018 18:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Omapärane:
"Lähim ellujäänud inimene oli varjanud end keldris 170 meetri kaugusel plahvatuse epitsentrist.
Septembris samal aastal, kui katastroofi tagajärgi lõpuks põhjalikumalt uurima hakati, selgus, et 1139 kuni 2160 meetri kaugusel pommiplahvatuse epitsentrist olid ellu jäänud ka kuus hõlmikpuud.
Tõsi, hõlmikpuud polnud ainsad ellujäänud. Kõige lähemal Hiroshima plahvatuse epitsentrile, 350 meetri kaugusel jäi elama hoopis üks "jumalatepuu" (Ailanthus altissima), poole kilomeetri raadiuses veel kaks leinapaju ja kaks ümariileksit, pooleteist kilomeetri raadiuses aga ellujäänud puude ja põõsaste hulgas oli kokku üheksa ümariileksit, kuus kampripuud, kolm hõlmikpuud, ja rida üksikuid esindajaid muudest liikidest. Jumalatepuud küll tavaliselt enam kui 50 aastat ei ela, samas kui kampripuud võivad elada enam kui tuhat aastat ja hõlmikpuud, nagu märgitud veelgi kauem. Tänaseks on need puud Hiroshimas suure au sees, neid tuntakse nimepidi ja ka majad, mis nende kõrvale püstitati, ehitati juba puude säilimist arvestades.
Vaata kuue Hiroshima hõlmikpuu tutvustust:
http://forte.delfi.ee/news/maa/puud-mis-elasid-ule-hiroshima-aatompommi-plahvatuse-ja-kestavad-tanaseni?id=66499794
http://kwanten.home.xs4all.nl/hiroshima.htm "
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"Hõlmikpuud on pehmed ja kerged puud, mis on Hiinas kasvanud ka enam kui 50-meetristeks, kuid tugevad juured hoiavad neid maa küljes kinni. Nad peavad vastu kolmekümnekraadise pakase, ja suudavad eemale hoida ka kõiksugused kahjurid, seened ja haigused. Tänapäeval teame meie seda puud peamiselt temast tehtud ravimite järgi, kuigi üks hõlmikpuu kasvab ka Tallinnas Pärnu maantee alguses.
// kui keegi mahasaaginud veel ple.
Kuigi siin ikka päris selget arusaama ei saa, visuaal pilti, et uudis oleks pidanud nagu kujutluspiltide ja võrdluse paremini mõtestama,
Epitsentri kui mitme meetrikaugusel millised kahjustused pealt vaates ja lähipiltide lõiked mis olemas, epitsentri ligial ringi panna, graafiliselt selline leht või matemaatiline meetrite ja piltide, andmete rida
"Lähim ellujäänud inimene oli varjanud end keldris 170 meetri kaugusel plahvatuse epitsentrist.
Septembris samal aastal, kui katastroofi tagajärgi lõpuks põhjalikumalt uurima hakati, selgus, et 1139 kuni 2160 meetri kaugusel pommiplahvatuse epitsentrist olid ellu jäänud ka kuus hõlmikpuud.
Tõsi, hõlmikpuud polnud ainsad ellujäänud. Kõige lähemal Hiroshima plahvatuse epitsentrile, 350 meetri kaugusel jäi elama hoopis üks "jumalatepuu" (Ailanthus altissima), poole kilomeetri raadiuses veel kaks leinapaju ja kaks ümariileksit, pooleteist kilomeetri raadiuses aga ellujäänud puude ja põõsaste hulgas oli kokku üheksa ümariileksit, kuus kampripuud, kolm hõlmikpuud, ja rida üksikuid esindajaid muudest liikidest. Jumalatepuud küll tavaliselt enam kui 50 aastat ei ela, samas kui kampripuud võivad elada enam kui tuhat aastat ja hõlmikpuud, nagu märgitud veelgi kauem. Tänaseks on need puud Hiroshimas suure au sees, neid tuntakse nimepidi ja ka majad, mis nende kõrvale püstitati, ehitati juba puude säilimist arvestades.
Vaata kuue Hiroshima hõlmikpuu tutvustust:
http://forte.delfi.ee/news/maa/puud-mis-elasid-ule-hiroshima-aatompommi-plahvatuse-ja-kestavad-tanaseni?id=66499794
http://kwanten.home.xs4all.nl/hiroshima.htm "
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"Hõlmikpuud on pehmed ja kerged puud, mis on Hiinas kasvanud ka enam kui 50-meetristeks, kuid tugevad juured hoiavad neid maa küljes kinni. Nad peavad vastu kolmekümnekraadise pakase, ja suudavad eemale hoida ka kõiksugused kahjurid, seened ja haigused. Tänapäeval teame meie seda puud peamiselt temast tehtud ravimite järgi, kuigi üks hõlmikpuu kasvab ka Tallinnas Pärnu maantee alguses.
// kui keegi mahasaaginud veel ple.
Kuigi siin ikka päris selget arusaama ei saa, visuaal pilti, et uudis oleks pidanud nagu kujutluspiltide ja võrdluse paremini mõtestama,
Epitsentri kui mitme meetrikaugusel millised kahjustused pealt vaates ja lähipiltide lõiked mis olemas, epitsentri ligial ringi panna, graafiliselt selline leht või matemaatiline meetrite ja piltide, andmete rida
http://forte.delfi.ee/news/maa/puud-mis-elasid-ule-hiroshima-aatompommi-plahvatuse-ja-kestavad-tanaseni?id=66499794
1 April 2018 18:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid mitte ni iraske kui:
"Jaapani kaitseminister teatas, et Hiroshima ja Nagasaki katastroof päästis tema kodumaa Nõukogude okupatsioonist, ja see avaldus maksis talle ametikoha."
https://www.saartehaal.ee/2007/07/13/hullem-kui-tuumapomm/
"Jaapani kaitseminister teatas, et Hiroshima ja Nagasaki katastroof päästis tema kodumaa Nõukogude okupatsioonist, ja see avaldus maksis talle ametikoha."
https://www.saartehaal.ee/2007/07/13/hullem-kui-tuumapomm/
https://www.saartehaal.ee/2007/07/13/hullem-kui-tuumapomm/
1 April 2018 18:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Soovitatav:
Päis mentaalsuste uurimiseks ja arusaamaks, mis reaalsus ligedane kuid nüüd sellele lisada juurde veel päris päris kihid #cDc ja.. mine tea mida Computer Chaous Club teeb aga..
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10210572790332715/
Päis mentaalsuste uurimiseks ja arusaamaks, mis reaalsus ligedane kuid nüüd sellele lisada juurde veel päris päris kihid #cDc ja.. mine tea mida Computer Chaous Club teeb aga..
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10210572790332715/
1 April 2018 18:05
Margus Meigo replied to Markus Lundver's comment.
vaatasin alguses, et Markus oled :p
1 April 2018 17:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Heiki Rebane 60 minuti seda lugu ka tead:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377/?
loe alumist teksiti video kirelduses (Y) for real :p
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377/?
loe alumist teksiti video kirelduses (Y) for real :p
1 April 2018 17:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Venkudel ammu juba muudesse asjadesse selliste seadmetega, mis palju mastaapsemad olemas, kuid kuna poisikesed rohkem ja rohkem avalikuks netis ja avalikudel häkerite esinemistel otsustasid... otsustasid avalikuks tulla mone väikse osaga selles osas, ilma suuri süüdistusi esitamata, siis ka vene pidi oma õigustuseks , kaitseks panema uudistesse,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO82NdwmieY
et jääks mulje nagu demokraatia,
ja et ei peida miskit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO82NdwmieY
et jääks mulje nagu demokraatia,
ja et ei peida miskit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO82NdwmieY
1 April 2018 17:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Polesaanud eelnevat veel alla laadida, et seda oma YT isse laadida.
Kuid selle teemade paremad versioonid olid saadaval, kuid see Välismaa Pealtnägija konservatiivsem ja austatum versioon "60 Minutit" klipp siin ka imestab:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGUR6kao9ys
(Seotud anu klipiga, kuid mooduseid mitmeid veel )
Eks siin rohkem hingeeluliselt tavalaste osas selgitust:
Üks väheseid ausaid filme selle meelsuse osas mis eetris olnud, saksa film ka
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10210572790332715/
Kellele intelligentsemad filmid meeldivad, siis vaadate sisse, ärge laske ennast alguse hetkest kõrvale juhtida,
Kuid selle teemade paremad versioonid olid saadaval, kuid see Välismaa Pealtnägija konservatiivsem ja austatum versioon "60 Minutit" klipp siin ka imestab:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGUR6kao9ys
(Seotud anu klipiga, kuid mooduseid mitmeid veel )
Eks siin rohkem hingeeluliselt tavalaste osas selgitust:
Üks väheseid ausaid filme selle meelsuse osas mis eetris olnud, saksa film ka
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10210572790332715/
Kellele intelligentsemad filmid meeldivad, siis vaadate sisse, ärge laske ennast alguse hetkest kõrvale juhtida,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGUR6kao9ys
1 April 2018 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Hahaha
Lips ikka on tumeroheliste juttidega? Siis oleks ideaalselt balansis ja kena,
pealegi, rhelistest rääkides Eesti rohelistele olevat sellepärast molli antud, et nad internationaal liberaalidega ei soovinud liituda nagu nad ju ka rohelised Saksamaal ja integreerisid 70 ndatel juba Rohelistesse ennast.
Kuid tänasepäeva parim on siin, sest see tõsi ka:P
https://www.sendspace.com/file/gfy7qy
Lips ikka on tumeroheliste juttidega? Siis oleks ideaalselt balansis ja kena,
pealegi, rhelistest rääkides Eesti rohelistele olevat sellepärast molli antud, et nad internationaal liberaalidega ei soovinud liituda nagu nad ju ka rohelised Saksamaal ja integreerisid 70 ndatel juba Rohelistesse ennast.
Kuid tänasepäeva parim on siin, sest see tõsi ka:P
https://www.sendspace.com/file/gfy7qy
https://www.sendspace.com/file/gfy7qy
1 April 2018 17:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid muidugi, mittemingil juhul KAUDSELT ka ei tohiks kiita selle musta kuu ordu mustasi tegusi ja kuvandit nende lugude osas mis kes iganes tegi, need kuvandit kindlasti tuleb likvideerida igasugusest heakiitmisest kuid tuleb arusaada ka
tegelikest suurtest võimalikustest,
kui vaadada inimest kui iniemst ja mis suurjõud ta ümber kleepisid ja mida elementaarne, et imeinimenegi poleks niinaljalt suutnud hallata, kuigi osa neid ki, nimetaks imeinimestena,
kuid nad vast meelega kasutasid Rooma impeeriumi ja
musta kuu ( ga ga film selgitus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA // Alexander Suurgay Mantoy võrreldes naisega kes selle vastuvõtab enesepõlenguga kui tarvis, et hallata neid kisjalisi ja neid hoida ühiskonna kallalt eemal)
tegelikest suurtest võimalikustest,
kui vaadada inimest kui iniemst ja mis suurjõud ta ümber kleepisid ja mida elementaarne, et imeinimenegi poleks niinaljalt suutnud hallata, kuigi osa neid ki, nimetaks imeinimestena,
kuid nad vast meelega kasutasid Rooma impeeriumi ja
musta kuu ( ga ga film selgitus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA // Alexander Suurgay Mantoy võrreldes naisega kes selle vastuvõtab enesepõlenguga kui tarvis, et hallata neid kisjalisi ja neid hoida ühiskonna kallalt eemal)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA
1 April 2018 17:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
+ nelikaksnull and others who allow humans to be in tune with God's Blessings
and in tune with what IS around you,
You not have to be HANGING around with them, BUT, failing to say they are, around you is like failing to admit that according to average human knowing and what is allowed and is around happening,
would be unreasonable to think
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377/
and in tune with what IS around you,
You not have to be HANGING around with them, BUT, failing to say they are, around you is like failing to admit that according to average human knowing and what is allowed and is around happening,
would be unreasonable to think
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377/
1 April 2018 17:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
1 April 2018 16:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1 April 2018 16:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 April 2018 16:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// selle pohjal saab uues asjas , uues ajas teha praeguste arvetustewga väga ppopulaarse tagasituleku
1 April 2018 15:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Veel endiselt 0 Vaatamist
ja siis järgmine samm
//mis aga maaraputamise asemel kerge noorkase pealt kasteheinaraputamise või õrnavihmasabina kerge noorvõsu toksatus.. võrreldes sellega mis saab siis teha, kuid olemas on elementaarne
//samas ajsa kulud võrreldes tuludega oleks niisuuresti plussis ainuüksi Leadide /järelvaatajate arvu ja liikumise tekitamise, jääva tagasipäärdumise % tõttu, kui reaalselt käivitada, järjepidev asjadetootmine koos vajaliku lisa platformiga mis koosöös üksikute heade firmadega nag uFacebook ja mikroskoopiline softi wennad ja nende lagne riistvarakoostöö parner ning andmebaasi legendid
ja siis järgmine samm
//mis aga maaraputamise asemel kerge noorkase pealt kasteheinaraputamise või õrnavihmasabina kerge noorvõsu toksatus.. võrreldes sellega mis saab siis teha, kuid olemas on elementaarne
//samas ajsa kulud võrreldes tuludega oleks niisuuresti plussis ainuüksi Leadide /järelvaatajate arvu ja liikumise tekitamise, jääva tagasipäärdumise % tõttu, kui reaalselt käivitada, järjepidev asjadetootmine koos vajaliku lisa platformiga mis koosöös üksikute heade firmadega nag uFacebook ja mikroskoopiline softi wennad ja nende lagne riistvarakoostöö parner ning andmebaasi legendid
1 April 2018 15:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://rahvahaal.delfi.ee/news/uudised/pastor-harald-meri-ja-tema-koduabilise-valve-kleini-morv-on-samuti-siiani-lahenduseta?id=65829226
http://rahvahaal.delfi.ee/news/uudised/pastor-harald-meri-ja-tema-koduabilise-valve-kleini-morv-on-samuti-siiani-lahenduseta?id=65829226
1 April 2018 15:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Ja siis eelmiste linkide otsa:
http://www.eestikirik.ee/pastori-hukk-jarelvaates/
https://www.nelli.ee/harald-meri-ja-valve--kleini-topeltmorv-on-uks-eesti-kriminaalajaloo-lahendamata-musteeriume
http://www.eestikirik.ee/pastori-hukk-jarelvaates/
https://www.nelli.ee/harald-meri-ja-valve--kleini-topeltmorv-on-uks-eesti-kriminaalajaloo-lahendamata-musteeriume
http://www.eestikirik.ee/pastori-hukk-jarelvaates/
1 April 2018 15:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 April 2018 15:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and then top of that if need to get some basic sure direct instructions, then again, some Parts of Coding World,
they should learn some common instructions of what is the parts they play with , what combination of instructions and outcomes,
and then again they can with out knowing ANY code, give deep coding instructions
they should learn some common instructions of what is the parts they play with , what combination of instructions and outcomes,
and then again they can with out knowing ANY code, give deep coding instructions
1 April 2018 15:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
am not a räppar, ( :p )
But there is the kind of people, who force with near violence against learning something that only takes in correct way few days to be able to communicate with these who learn it deep with special skill tens of years,
simple instructions what human want to get from Internet, should be elementary basic
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But there is the kind of people, who force with near violence against learning something that only takes in correct way few days to be able to communicate with these who learn it deep with special skill tens of years,
simple instructions what human want to get from Internet, should be elementary basic
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1 April 2018 15:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Viimane ja esimene link on Kõnest mis telefonis
Kautla: http://bit.ly/2ImkaP9 http://bit.ly/Kautla_erna_ryhm (teema Telefonist, Live algul, hiljem emale motlesin helistada ja heli kontrollida)
https://etv.err.ee/v/meelelahutus/hommik_anuga/saated/397df997-028e-446c-987e-b5c0541c7d42/hommik-anuga#comments
Ja muide, siin otse video:
http://bit.ly/TeabeAmet_Teavitab_Minut38_algus_Sinu_mobiilist
Vot see on nali, kui tõsiselt saabuv neile kes soovib!
http://bit.ly/Eesti_uudis_Kautla_Algupärase_suuruse_ja_olulisuse_osas_info_mis_ajaloost_likvideeriti_koos_uurimisega_miks_kas_keelustati
Miks see uurimine sunduslikult lõpetati?
Kautla: http://bit.ly/2ImkaP9 http://bit.ly/Kautla_erna_ryhm (teema Telefonist, Live algul, hiljem emale motlesin helistada ja heli kontrollida)
https://etv.err.ee/v/meelelahutus/hommik_anuga/saated/397df997-028e-446c-987e-b5c0541c7d42/hommik-anuga#comments
Ja muide, siin otse video:
http://bit.ly/TeabeAmet_Teavitab_Minut38_algus_Sinu_mobiilist
Vot see on nali, kui tõsiselt saabuv neile kes soovib!
http://bit.ly/Eesti_uudis_Kautla_Algupärase_suuruse_ja_olulisuse_osas_info_mis_ajaloost_likvideeriti_koos_uurimisega_miks_kas_keelustati
Miks see uurimine sunduslikult lõpetati?
1 April 2018 15:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Kas see mõte ja point, näha, kuulda ka oli ?
1 April 2018 14:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Tere Tere
1 April 2018 14:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tegelikult eriti tuus oleks, kui täeisti vaikusena nad sellest hoiaksid üle nädalakese.. ja siis aina helitatakse.. ja netist uuritakse.. nu ja siis ehk leitakse ka-- ühte teist muud põnevat :p
1 April 2018 12:08
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Nu jah, eks sedasi nagu sa ütlesid tõesti,
see selgitab olukorda,
kuid sellegipoolest tuleb arusaada, et juba tema viamu olemusest näha ja alati näha olnud, et pole puhas vaim.
Lisaks kas reaalne elu oli siis ainult see et joodi ja oldi kultuuri hävitavad parmud ja joodikud, liiderdajad ja närakad?
Kas muud meie kultuuris ja väärtustes polnutki mida märgata ?
see selgitab olukorda,
kuid sellegipoolest tuleb arusaada, et juba tema viamu olemusest näha ja alati näha olnud, et pole puhas vaim.
Lisaks kas reaalne elu oli siis ainult see et joodi ja oldi kultuuri hävitavad parmud ja joodikud, liiderdajad ja närakad?
Kas muud meie kultuuris ja väärtustes polnutki mida märgata ?
1 April 2018 12:01
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
ei ta ei kajastanud reaalset elu vajd peegeldas ja tugevndas seda olukorda mida N liidul vaja, tiris inimesi sinnasuunda ja tugevndas seda, et oleks nii kuidas ta selgitas.
Kui ta sinna otsa oleks rääkinud, kuidas tegelikutl vaja ja oleks ise selles osas eeskuju olnud, siis oleks teine asi hoopis..
Kuid kas see mees mitte porno levitmaise eest juba veneajal kinnieip võetud, et siis pärastki.. seda kuvandit teades mis tema taak.. omakorda levitada ütlematta.
Kui ta sinna otsa oleks rääkinud, kuidas tegelikutl vaja ja oleks ise selles osas eeskuju olnud, siis oleks teine asi hoopis..
Kuid kas see mees mitte porno levitmaise eest juba veneajal kinnieip võetud, et siis pärastki.. seda kuvandit teades mis tema taak.. omakorda levitada ütlematta.
1 April 2018 12:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid yeah, meeles pidada ka kuupäevasi..
1 April 2018 11:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lisaks sellepärast veel hea, et pani inimesi üksteisele helistama
1 April 2018 11:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi jah, mega tark otsus seda , seda ainult nalja formaadis parallelsena saaksi esitleda,
kuid yeha see põhi info mis vaja sai naljaga ikka edasi antud, piisavalt suure hulga inimeste teadvusele ehmatamiseks
kuid yeha see põhi info mis vaja sai naljaga ikka edasi antud, piisavalt suure hulga inimeste teadvusele ehmatamiseks
1 April 2018 11:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And at times there is trojan i comersical trojans :p
Just as parallel example, but idea apply to another levels as well
https://w00tsec.blogspot.com.ee/2015/11/arris-cable-modem-has-backdoor-in.html
Just as parallel example, but idea apply to another levels as well
https://w00tsec.blogspot.com.ee/2015/11/arris-cable-modem-has-backdoor-in.html
https://w00tsec.blogspot.com.ee/2015/11/arris-cable-modem-has-backdoor-in.html
1 April 2018 11:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Et ikka nende teemade kaudsele arusaamale ligemale viidud
Basic mainstream:
http://www.spyengage.com/how-to-spy-on-android-phone-without-rooting/
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How To Spy or Track An Android Phone Without Rooting?
All the popular mobile brands like Samsung, HTC, LG, Motorola, Sony, Micromax and many more which are running with Android operating system needn’t necessarily undergo a process called Rooting. An Android phone can be monitored without rooting as well. Yes, It is not mandatory to root your target android phone to get an access for the basic features like the records of phone calls, phonebook contacts, application history and many more. However to access the premium or advanced features you require to root the device. It includes tracing the mainstream IM apps like WhatsApp, Facebook etc..
Below mentioned are the fundamental features which are incorporated in the Basic subscription package for the majority spy applications.
1. Read Their Text Messages
smsYou can view any SMS or text message received by or sent from the target user’s device. Infact the deleted messages can also be read by you as it gets stored on the spy server.
2. Flip Through Their Call history & Contact List
contactsThe call logs along with the date and time stamp can be easily checked by you. So, now you can spot their calls at anytime and anywhere.
3. Track Their Web History and Bookmarks
browsing historyBe informed about your target user’s web channel hopping. You can check what are they browsing while being online in wee hours and also review the bookmarked websites on their device.
4. View Their Calendar, Reminders and Events
saved notesAll the saved notes in the events, Calendars, reminders can be read by logging into the control panel.
5. Go Through Their Emails
emailThe mailbox in Gmail can easily be checked by you.
6. Contemplate Their Photos and Videos –
multimediaYou can clearly check over their multimedia folder.
7. Scan Their Installed Applications
Installed ApplicationsBe watchful to your children’s mobile application downloads. Block the indecent games or applications installed on their smartphones.
8. SIM Change Notification
sim change notificationIf the target user would change the SIM, then you can set an alert where you will be notified for the same either through an email or text message.
9. Track Their Location
gpsThe GPS location of the target user can be discovered by you. So you can effortlessly unearth your children, employee or significant other’s whereabouts.
10. Uninstall Alert
uninstall alertJust in case the spy application gets uninstalled then alike SIM notification alert you will be informed for the uninstallation alert as well. This feature is only provided by mSpy .
Therefore for all the above mentioned features the rooting process is not needed.
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What is Rooting?
Rooting is a simple process performed on the Android devices to liberate it from all the set of limitations that are inflicted by the manufacturer. Once the device is rooted then it is enabled to access all the third party applications which are not present in the google apps store.
I hope I have made my readers well versed with the jargon – Rooting. Let’s acquire more information on the advanced features of the monitoring software.
The Premium subscription package is comprised of the entire basic features along with the following listed pro features.
1. Enforce Geo-Fencing – The Geo-fencing helps you set a virtual boundary for the locations that you feel should not be visited by your target user. If your target will enter into the restricted area then you will immediately be notified for the same.
2. Set Keylogger – This feature allows you to view the text entered by the target on his/her mobile phone or tablet.
3. Get Informed About Their Locations – Accumulating the information of all the connected Wi-Fi hotspots will let you know their accurate whereabouts. You can also remotely control all the wireless connections from your secure dashboard.
4. Block The Objectionable Apps & Websites – Review the applications that are being downloaded and installed by your children. You can easily block the applications which aren’t age appropriate.
5. Confine Their Incoming Calls – Alike mobile apps, You can restrict their certain incoming calls as well.
6. Remotely Lock the Device – This feature permits you to remotely lock your target user’s smartphone.
7. Instant Messenger Tracker – You can keep track of many prevalent social networking applications. Following are the applications that can be checked by you.
Spy Their Snapchat – Snapchat is one faddish application famous amongst the teenagers. The media data like photos, videos and drawings can be tracked in the chronological order. However, The Snapchat recipient can only view the files for 10 seconds where the spy software will let you view the data at anytime as it gets stored in the control panel.
Monitor Their WhatsApp – WhatsApp is another trendy chat platform that majority wants to spy. This aspects lets you read their entire chat conversations.
Spy Their Viber and LINE – Children prefer chatting over Viber and Line application. So, flip through the each thread of conversation that they’re doing with their friends and acquaintance.
Check Their Skype – Skype is yet another remarkable communication channel that allows you to do video conferencing. And this is the one big reason that it needs to be monitored because the children unconsciously share and showcase their outrageous pictures and videos.
Follow Into Their Instagram – Instagram, An online mobile photo and video sharing platform can be watched carefully with the aid of Instagram tracker.
Look Into Their Facebook Messenger – Unveil the circled user’s complete chat conversations with the assistance of the monitoring software.
Basic mainstream:
http://www.spyengage.com/how-to-spy-on-android-phone-without-rooting/
--
How To Spy or Track An Android Phone Without Rooting?
All the popular mobile brands like Samsung, HTC, LG, Motorola, Sony, Micromax and many more which are running with Android operating system needn’t necessarily undergo a process called Rooting. An Android phone can be monitored without rooting as well. Yes, It is not mandatory to root your target android phone to get an access for the basic features like the records of phone calls, phonebook contacts, application history and many more. However to access the premium or advanced features you require to root the device. It includes tracing the mainstream IM apps like WhatsApp, Facebook etc..
Below mentioned are the fundamental features which are incorporated in the Basic subscription package for the majority spy applications.
1. Read Their Text Messages
smsYou can view any SMS or text message received by or sent from the target user’s device. Infact the deleted messages can also be read by you as it gets stored on the spy server.
2. Flip Through Their Call history & Contact List
contactsThe call logs along with the date and time stamp can be easily checked by you. So, now you can spot their calls at anytime and anywhere.
3. Track Their Web History and Bookmarks
browsing historyBe informed about your target user’s web channel hopping. You can check what are they browsing while being online in wee hours and also review the bookmarked websites on their device.
4. View Their Calendar, Reminders and Events
saved notesAll the saved notes in the events, Calendars, reminders can be read by logging into the control panel.
5. Go Through Their Emails
emailThe mailbox in Gmail can easily be checked by you.
6. Contemplate Their Photos and Videos –
multimediaYou can clearly check over their multimedia folder.
7. Scan Their Installed Applications
Installed ApplicationsBe watchful to your children’s mobile application downloads. Block the indecent games or applications installed on their smartphones.
8. SIM Change Notification
sim change notificationIf the target user would change the SIM, then you can set an alert where you will be notified for the same either through an email or text message.
9. Track Their Location
gpsThe GPS location of the target user can be discovered by you. So you can effortlessly unearth your children, employee or significant other’s whereabouts.
10. Uninstall Alert
uninstall alertJust in case the spy application gets uninstalled then alike SIM notification alert you will be informed for the uninstallation alert as well. This feature is only provided by mSpy .
Therefore for all the above mentioned features the rooting process is not needed.
------------
What is Rooting?
Rooting is a simple process performed on the Android devices to liberate it from all the set of limitations that are inflicted by the manufacturer. Once the device is rooted then it is enabled to access all the third party applications which are not present in the google apps store.
I hope I have made my readers well versed with the jargon – Rooting. Let’s acquire more information on the advanced features of the monitoring software.
The Premium subscription package is comprised of the entire basic features along with the following listed pro features.
1. Enforce Geo-Fencing – The Geo-fencing helps you set a virtual boundary for the locations that you feel should not be visited by your target user. If your target will enter into the restricted area then you will immediately be notified for the same.
2. Set Keylogger – This feature allows you to view the text entered by the target on his/her mobile phone or tablet.
3. Get Informed About Their Locations – Accumulating the information of all the connected Wi-Fi hotspots will let you know their accurate whereabouts. You can also remotely control all the wireless connections from your secure dashboard.
4. Block The Objectionable Apps & Websites – Review the applications that are being downloaded and installed by your children. You can easily block the applications which aren’t age appropriate.
5. Confine Their Incoming Calls – Alike mobile apps, You can restrict their certain incoming calls as well.
6. Remotely Lock the Device – This feature permits you to remotely lock your target user’s smartphone.
7. Instant Messenger Tracker – You can keep track of many prevalent social networking applications. Following are the applications that can be checked by you.
Spy Their Snapchat – Snapchat is one faddish application famous amongst the teenagers. The media data like photos, videos and drawings can be tracked in the chronological order. However, The Snapchat recipient can only view the files for 10 seconds where the spy software will let you view the data at anytime as it gets stored in the control panel.
Monitor Their WhatsApp – WhatsApp is another trendy chat platform that majority wants to spy. This aspects lets you read their entire chat conversations.
Spy Their Viber and LINE – Children prefer chatting over Viber and Line application. So, flip through the each thread of conversation that they’re doing with their friends and acquaintance.
Check Their Skype – Skype is yet another remarkable communication channel that allows you to do video conferencing. And this is the one big reason that it needs to be monitored because the children unconsciously share and showcase their outrageous pictures and videos.
Follow Into Their Instagram – Instagram, An online mobile photo and video sharing platform can be watched carefully with the aid of Instagram tracker.
Look Into Their Facebook Messenger – Unveil the circled user’s complete chat conversations with the assistance of the monitoring software.
http://www.spyengage.com/how-to-spy-on-android-phone-without-rooting/
1 April 2018 11:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
random mainstream pages
https://tag.wonderhowto.com/hack-a-cell-phone-to-listen-in-to-calls/
https://tag.wonderhowto.com/hack-a-cell-phone-to-listen-in-to-calls/
https://tag.wonderhowto.com/hack-a-cell-phone-to-listen-in-to-calls/
1 April 2018 11:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/09/no_moto_surfboard_modem_has_hardcoded_creds/
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/09/no_moto_surfboard_modem_has_hardcoded_creds/
1 April 2018 11:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mõte jääb samaks. :)
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/12/remotely_eavesd_1.html
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/12/remotely_eavesd_1.html
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/12/remotely_eavesd_1.html
1 April 2018 11:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi
Hea ka see, et kui panna huumori päeval, selline valekoodiga huumorietendus, siis
see turvaline asjade osas, ei saa kohtukeishi vms kaela : )
Hea ka see, et kui panna huumori päeval, selline valekoodiga huumorietendus, siis
see turvaline asjade osas, ei saa kohtukeishi vms kaela : )
1 April 2018 11:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Saab veel lihtsalt kogu su kontakte, telefonisisu ja palju muud laadida.. oh milleks põdeda.. kahju ainult, et enamuses , VÄgasuures enamuses andmekogumisega siiani suht logisevalt ja masssiliselt on viisnurglaised tegelnud.. kuid nüüd kui head iiemsed selle potensiaali kasutanud oleksid asjapidevalt... oi kui vahvat andmepanku saanud oleksime..
..ja osad on ka
..ja osad on ka
1 April 2018 11:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
seniks aga see elektroonika maailm... "uskumatu"
veel las tundub hetke..
siis samm edasi, harjutamaks, meid arusaaa, mismoodi, privaatsuse asemel me arusaama peaksime, et korrlaikult elada vaja.
need olendid kes sind pealt vaatavad ja märkeid teevad ku iSa ringimagad ... ja läbi sinu magavad kui ligipääsu annad jookide jms'ga.. siis ... nu jah .. meeldiv,
ainuke lootus "SUURTEL" nüüd suur mälukustutus teha järgmise paari kuu jooksul, kudi eks selle takistuse tarvis väiksed nõksud ka vlamistatud
veel las tundub hetke..
siis samm edasi, harjutamaks, meid arusaaa, mismoodi, privaatsuse asemel me arusaama peaksime, et korrlaikult elada vaja.
need olendid kes sind pealt vaatavad ja märkeid teevad ku iSa ringimagad ... ja läbi sinu magavad kui ligipääsu annad jookide jms'ga.. siis ... nu jah .. meeldiv,
ainuke lootus "SUURTEL" nüüd suur mälukustutus teha järgmise paari kuu jooksul, kudi eks selle takistuse tarvis väiksed nõksud ka vlamistatud
1 April 2018 11:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vaata kindlasti seda Terevisiooni mobiiliga seotud uudist ka, juhuks kui need asjad enesestmõistetavad Sul veel polnud.. ammu juba tavatelefone 90ndatel sai raadiosaatjana kasutada naabrite kõnede pealtkuulamiseks jms..aga kes ikka kuuleb.... nu eks nii armas ja heameel, et sellise aususe ja soliidsuse me riik lõpuks otsustas käsile võtta!
Järgmiseks avaldavad ehk kuidas nad lihtsalt telepaatiliselt kogu tuba ja mõtteid järgida saavad vaimus, mõned aastad veel . )
Järgmiseks avaldavad ehk kuidas nad lihtsalt telepaatiliselt kogu tuba ja mõtteid järgida saavad vaimus, mõned aastad veel . )
1 April 2018 11:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sellise kärna otse riigi kanalilt suurkorporatsioonide ja riikide komunistide koostööle panna lõdvarandmega.. ajal kus nii ülevõetud struktuurid.. see ikka ni meeldiv tase, tõstis patriootlikust kohe 120 kraadi lisaks niigi olemasolevale sajale, : )
1 April 2018 11:09
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Group: Raamatud ja Kirjanduse koopiad jagamiseks
Väärtused mis juba digitud, neid on ka vähem põhjus kiirkorras likvideerida,
et nad digituks eip saaks,
et ka nii tasub arvestada1 April 2018 08:40
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Riimets's post.
Group: Kristlased
Nii on1 April 2018 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Group: Raamatud ja Kirjanduse koopiad jagamiseks
Toomas Sirge jah, ja raamatud mis ei saa digitaliseeritud saavad äärmiselt kergesti paarisaja aastaga, varemgi veel saada kadunuks ja veelgi kindlamalt mitte jõuda inimestele, kellele neid vaja , ülemaailma1 April 2018 01:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Sai kellegile saadetud, see teema, Riigi ja Vaimukaitse osas, siis see link pidi pigem selle kolme loo järge siseldama:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF_b_GLt0xI
Riikide tekke jms osas, kes järsku tekkisid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF_b_GLt0xI
Riikide tekke jms osas, kes järsku tekkisid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF_b_GLt0xI
1 April 2018 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
igaksjuhuks SELLISTE teemadega seotud ärritusi peab kirja panema aegajalt, muidu kipub meelest minna, et SELLISE suundade absoluutse likvideerimisega tuleb tegeleda, alustuseks siin maal kuid ega see mujalgi inimliigile head tooda, alaväärsitav inimestele,
isegi kui tulnukaid mitte uskuda kes selliseid alaväärsitusi korraldaks või kommuniste, internatsionaalliberaale siis kes iganes nad on, need saame väljaselgitaud, iga detailini kes mis osa soovitas ja nende iniemste perepuudest ja seotud organisatsioonidest-kooolidest, isikliku elu arusaamadest, peaks ilma igasuguse vaevata selgeks saama, millega-kellega, mis plaani ja ideloogiaga tegu, nii lokaalselt kui globaalselt,
märgata tuleb, ridade vahele, kaardite vahele ja kaadrite sisu... kui alavääristada mõnda kultuuri ja komuuni tahta siis saab neile andeks anda, et nad ei suutnud paremini ja hea et seegi,
et robotdisaoinid, ... kuid iniemsed... PÄRIS inimeste maal sellist ainuüksi lava poolest ebainimväärset showd korraldada nägu kõrvuni on iikka äärmine alatus, isegi kui suurem osa kes hypnoosis või deliiriumis või muidu ei ole seda asja võtnud vaevaks läbi mõelda, et mis ON inimväärne ja arendav, kena ja mis on alatult alaaarendav ja limiteeriv, inimliigi jaoks
isegi kui tulnukaid mitte uskuda kes selliseid alaväärsitusi korraldaks või kommuniste, internatsionaalliberaale siis kes iganes nad on, need saame väljaselgitaud, iga detailini kes mis osa soovitas ja nende iniemste perepuudest ja seotud organisatsioonidest-kooolidest, isikliku elu arusaamadest, peaks ilma igasuguse vaevata selgeks saama, millega-kellega, mis plaani ja ideloogiaga tegu, nii lokaalselt kui globaalselt,
märgata tuleb, ridade vahele, kaardite vahele ja kaadrite sisu... kui alavääristada mõnda kultuuri ja komuuni tahta siis saab neile andeks anda, et nad ei suutnud paremini ja hea et seegi,
et robotdisaoinid, ... kuid iniemsed... PÄRIS inimeste maal sellist ainuüksi lava poolest ebainimväärset showd korraldada nägu kõrvuni on iikka äärmine alatus, isegi kui suurem osa kes hypnoosis või deliiriumis või muidu ei ole seda asja võtnud vaevaks läbi mõelda, et mis ON inimväärne ja arendav, kena ja mis on alatult alaaarendav ja limiteeriv, inimliigi jaoks
31 March 2018 17:29
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Tegin Grupi ka selles filmis,
oli plaan meil see film varem thea kuid kuidagi kaapertati see teema või juhtus nii paraleelselt lihtsalt..
Ja Strangberg ei soovinud ka, et sellest asjast räägiksime ei ole päris kindel veel miks ja keda veel vabas Eestis siis kardetakse vabade meeste poolt..
Mul üks lindijupp ka oli kuid ei saa seda netis praegu jagada kahjuks kuna nii paluti läbi hea sõbra
Igatahes, lükake infot mulle sinna gruppi hiljem üles, kui põhialus info saab pandud31 March 2018 15:43
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnu Pendonen's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kus See filmi allalaetav link on ?31 March 2018 13:47
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov näe, saad aru küll, on tõesti kurb
31 March 2018 13:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eip tea kas see leht ka varsti "for sale"
" Mures oma maine languse pärast eestlaste seas, nõudis Savisaar rahvaga kõnelemiseks ETVlt eetriaega. Peaministrina oli ta niisuguseid jutlusi pidanud igal laupäeval riigiraadios, aga nüüd polnud tal enam voli kedagi käskida. ETV juhtkond keeldus, kuid pakkus võimalust korraldada otsesaatena kahe suurima poliitilise jõu debatt.
Üritades kõiki üle kavaldada, ei valinud Savisaar vastaseks sugugi riigi suurimat poliitilist jõudu Koonderakonda, nagu ETV soovis, vaid kutsus kerge seljavõidu lootuses duellile hoopis Isamaa. See paistis Koljati ja Taaveti heitlusena: ühel pool tõeline poliitiline gigant, mitmeaastase peaministrikogemusega Rahvarinde juht, teisel vaevu tudengieast välja kasvanud noorukid.
Ent Isamaa juhid nägid Savisaare pakkumises taeva kingitust. Kas nüüd või mitte kunagi! Kaks tundi tasuta eetriaega riigi sisuliselt ainukeses telekanalis koos rahva hiljutise iidoliga oli võimalus, mida ei tohtinud kasutamata jätta.
28. mail peetud televäitluse lõpptulemus oli Savisaarele masendav. Isamaa oli heitluseks põhjalikult valmistunud. Terve saade oli valimisstaabis mitu korda üksipulgi läbi mängitud, kõikvõimalikud küsimused ja vastused täpselt kirja pandud, iga lause lausa läikima lihvitud. Igal vähegi haritud televaatajal ei saanud jääda kahtlust, et poliitikasse on astunud värske jõud, mis ei erine konkurentidest mitte ainult hästi istuvate ülikondade, vaid ka selge sõna ja kindla maailmavaate poolest. "
https://fictionbook.ru/author/kalle_muuli/
" Mures oma maine languse pärast eestlaste seas, nõudis Savisaar rahvaga kõnelemiseks ETVlt eetriaega. Peaministrina oli ta niisuguseid jutlusi pidanud igal laupäeval riigiraadios, aga nüüd polnud tal enam voli kedagi käskida. ETV juhtkond keeldus, kuid pakkus võimalust korraldada otsesaatena kahe suurima poliitilise jõu debatt.
Üritades kõiki üle kavaldada, ei valinud Savisaar vastaseks sugugi riigi suurimat poliitilist jõudu Koonderakonda, nagu ETV soovis, vaid kutsus kerge seljavõidu lootuses duellile hoopis Isamaa. See paistis Koljati ja Taaveti heitlusena: ühel pool tõeline poliitiline gigant, mitmeaastase peaministrikogemusega Rahvarinde juht, teisel vaevu tudengieast välja kasvanud noorukid.
Ent Isamaa juhid nägid Savisaare pakkumises taeva kingitust. Kas nüüd või mitte kunagi! Kaks tundi tasuta eetriaega riigi sisuliselt ainukeses telekanalis koos rahva hiljutise iidoliga oli võimalus, mida ei tohtinud kasutamata jätta.
28. mail peetud televäitluse lõpptulemus oli Savisaarele masendav. Isamaa oli heitluseks põhjalikult valmistunud. Terve saade oli valimisstaabis mitu korda üksipulgi läbi mängitud, kõikvõimalikud küsimused ja vastused täpselt kirja pandud, iga lause lausa läikima lihvitud. Igal vähegi haritud televaatajal ei saanud jääda kahtlust, et poliitikasse on astunud värske jõud, mis ei erine konkurentidest mitte ainult hästi istuvate ülikondade, vaid ka selge sõna ja kindla maailmavaate poolest. "
https://fictionbook.ru/author/kalle_muuli/
https://fictionbook.ru/author/kalle_muuli/
31 March 2018 12:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kühvlitega kühevldati neid rublais lennukile,
Audio paari aasta eest seoses rublaäri filmi plaanidega:
Audio paari aasta eest seoses rublaäri filmi plaanidega:
31 March 2018 12:38
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov siis tegid nalja viimase postitusega, sorry minu viga
31 March 2018 10:49
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Sa veel pole ravi saanud vist tundub
31 March 2018 10:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kusjuurs mul kuskil, ei tea miks nüüd, aga tuli meelde ,oli üks igavesti tore ja vajalik ainuke Naise nimi mida kuulnud, mille kohe teadsin, et sobib oma tütre nimeks panna.. aga ma selle unustasin vist nüüd postitada seda nime imetledes meeltes.. ja nüüd.. ei olegi meeles kuhu selle üles kirjutasin.. : (
31 March 2018 09:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
EI midagi naljakat siin Lillith
31 March 2018 09:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
and You see.. i still have not..
31 March 2018 05:56
Margus Meigo commented on Andris Sats's post.
Kle mis selle Kinni konto aadress on ?
31 March 2018 03:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But then again, am use an chance to give people opportunity to depend on them
31 March 2018 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on Karen Anne Impas's photo.
...hey... not ugly..
31 March 2018 02:50
Margus Meigo commented on Karen Anne Impas's photo.
Door to heaven
31 March 2018 02:50
Margus Meigo commented on Karen Anne Impas's photo.
All of them are bad, perhaps the Soda
is only one am would trust
is only one am would trust
31 March 2018 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on Karen Anne Impas's photo.
Amazing professional look
31 March 2018 02:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
waks on waks off
31 March 2018 02:36
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Liiv's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Kuid elektroonika kanalid ma sooviks, et oleks juba lähiajal mitmekihilise,d et nii emotsioone, visioone kui muid materiale lisaks oma isiksuse parimale edasikandele saaks paraleelselt edastada, ilma, et kkkku sasipundar poleks, et oleks selgus ja sügavus iga eri huvilisele ja ajale31 March 2018 01:49
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Liiv's comment.
Group: Kristlased
potensialase häbivääristusega31 March 2018 01:48
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Liiv's comment.
Group: Kristlased
ma pigem lihvin seda oskust, et emotsioonis endiselt, maksimaaleslt õigust ja õiglust taolteda
iseennastki õpetada teiste jaoks paremaks kui teistele selles momendis enda häbivääristmiasgea miskit kasu ei saanud tuua31 March 2018 01:48
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Liiv's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Mina heameelega oma emotsioone kasutan toomaks välja asju mida ma muidu ei söendaks v poleks võimalus öelda.. kuid siis eri vaimud ssaavad inimhingele läbi minu või kellegile kellele vaja Jumalal, öelda asju mida tarvis,
mass laike sellega eip kogu aga nu ju seda mida tarvis ikka,
Seniks kuni turvalisusse rohkem saan31 March 2018 01:46
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Liiv's comment.
Group: Kristlased
nu jah, eks ka empotsioonide haldmaiseks on eri aineid ja eri arusaame, enamasti arusaamadest piisab kui neid kinnitada osatakse läbi usu või tarkuse... kuid ka nende integreerimiseks ,enamastivaja oma peakolbast väljainna ja teiste tarkusi integreerida, andmepakades surida ja siis endale vajaliku tagas ituua oma elu jaoks ja integreerida...
Sa ise nende alade mitmekülgne spetsalist, selles osas oleks kunagi huvitav Sinust sinu enda müstilisuse tasemel, võrdväärsel tasmeel täispikka filmi näha ku iseda thea suudetaks, õpetuslik film30 March 2018 23:28
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Liiv's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Linnas käimiseks ka hea, et ei satuks nende energiavapiiride ja segaduste küüsi, et oma meelsus ja vaim, valitseks headuse teenimiseks30 March 2018 23:25
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Liiv's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Peeter Liiv nu jah, aga kui ika inimesel on tuju paha, viamud kallal ja motivatsioon v muud rünnakud, ja siis saada pea 100% kindlusega sellest välja 5 minuti jooksul, ja selgusesse pöörata, et mitte enam energiat pahale anda viad heale ennast kiiresti ümber registreerida ja jumalale keskenduda.. siis selleks need ained on ideaalsed30 March 2018 23:24
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Liiv's comment.
Group: Kristlased
kanepi kogused mis selleks piisavad, on tikutotsa suurune kogus
((võrreldes kotitäiega mida noored õhtujooksul võtavad ja mis lihtsalt minema voolab... kuigi eks kasu sab ikka.. aga sama v suurmeaig kasu saaks kui nad opiksid jah.. need eelnemtatud Su tehnikad ja toitumise.. ja disipliini (kerge) ja ausutse.. ja siis...))30 March 2018 23:22
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Liiv's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Kiriku info ka väga hea!
Ma ka tähele pannud, et kanep Tugevalt tugevndab palvejõudu, palve soovi, tuleta piiblit meelde ja teeb paraleelid selgemini arusaadvaaks
kuid mitte siis kui ükskõikselt ja rutiinist noid asju võtta, ega piiblit ka ei tohi niisama rutiinist vist näppida30 March 2018 23:21
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Liiv's comment.
Group: Kristlased
LSD kasutamisi ja tulemusi, on tuhandeid, see kui mone üksiku nüansi saab samaligidale, pole piisav, kuid see on hea, et nad selle tegid, ja need teadmised ja tehnikad toonud meieni, igast helivibratsiooone ja palju muud veel leiutatud mis ühte ja teisi pidi toovad ajutisi või vahest ka suts pikemaajalisi, ühe või teise kogemuse ligidale.. kuid nad ikkagi ei asenda kunagi taimi ja aineid,
oleks üleolev mõelda, et me inimesed ise enda sees saame kõike mida vaja, alatiseks, ilma välismaailmata kes meile andnud keha ja ühiskonna30 March 2018 23:20
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Liiv's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Peeter Liiv nu eks oleneb jah kuidas ja mille piires tulemusi mõõta.
Kuid ilmselge, et äriseansil või muud tööd tehes ei saa inimene samalajal holotroopse hingmaisega tegeleda30 March 2018 23:18
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Liiv's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Kuid psühedeelikumid nii puhtad, et need kohustuslikud, kuid siin okupatsioonis kavalasti keelatud.... et ei saaks olla me need kes oleme loodud30 March 2018 23:10
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Liiv's comment.
Group: Kristlased
et vaimset puhtust ja meelespead hoida30 March 2018 23:09
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Liiv's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Minusugustel lausa vein, rosinatki keelatud30 March 2018 23:08
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
Kus Sul selline menüü muiud ? Autos ?
30 March 2018 21:45
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
Tallinna seisvat liiklust vast
kuid tegelikult võiks selles olla erakondade ja kohtusaalide tagaruumide piilukaamera kus lepitakse kokku mida rääkida avalikult
kuid tegelikult võiks selles olla erakondade ja kohtusaalide tagaruumide piilukaamera kus lepitakse kokku mida rääkida avalikult
30 March 2018 21:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Hmm.. samas see link toimib:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1347212077097&set=t.1121186593&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1347212077097&set=t.1121186593&type=3&theater
30 March 2018 15:12
Margus Meigo commented on Henelyn Kandver's photo.
Tegelikud vahemaad , suuruse vahel, kui vaid mees teaks.... on niiiiiiii rohkem...et..
30 March 2018 15:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nii tubli!
30 March 2018 15:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See parim mida näinud pikkka aega :D
30 March 2018 15:06
Margus Meigo commented on Henelyn Kandver's photo.
Wau :D
30 March 2018 15:06
Margus Meigo commented on Elver Loho's link.
see pole küll viisakas pealkiri
30 March 2018 04:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu üks ianukestest
30 March 2018 01:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
samas korgharidus oianuke kes loplikult sellest ka vajalikus kontkstides ja potnesiaalis arusaada saab raknduslikult
30 March 2018 01:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid se vaqjalik osa, et saaksin anda infot mida vaja ja koostada seda igakülgselt,
kuid kahju kui kõrghariduse tarkuse tase nii madal on, et sellest veel ollakse arusaamatult tasemel, tunnetamiseks mida tarvis
kuid kahju kui kõrghariduse tarkuse tase nii madal on, et sellest veel ollakse arusaamatult tasemel, tunnetamiseks mida tarvis
30 March 2018 01:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Okey mul ei lastud seda rituaali lopuni teha ja aeti välja peale õnnistuse andmist sest30 March 2018 01:25
Margus Meigo replied to Eva Solnik's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Vähe sellest Kristlaste grupiski olnud jhuhuseid, kus Jumalausklikud likvideeritakse ja Seinfield ropendades on alles jäetud
Ja me siis otsime siin süüdlasi kuskil akugetes kohtades mille sügasvat taustauuringut polnud tehtud, et kes see kamp oli, kes tal lubas märkamatult olla29 March 2018 17:21
Margus Meigo replied to Eva Solnik's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Reimo Sillamaa JA siis meil endil ika arusaadavad, Kristlastena, miks mustad jõud seda teevad, kirikud inflatreerivad ja neid jutte ühekülgselt paljunavad poolikult ?
Meil siin kohalikegi Pedofiile küll, tiigruikutsu mees, kui me ni suured vastased oelme, sellele käitumisviisile, mis moodi see mees siis avalikult figureerib ja keegi teda üles otsinud ja kaamerate ees vabandama pole pandud.. mis mehised mehed jaõigusnõudjad siis oleme siin veel välismaa kallal kraaksuma'29 March 2018 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Mina ise olen Tallinnas täna ka kättesaadav!
522 90 4129 March 2018 06:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Ja palun mind mitte jälle alluda mõne-ajutiselt-võlts kristlasel propakandale ning lasta mind blokeeria
Kellel on Windowsi arvuti, siis võite selle EXE fail ika alla laadida, mis mul oma postituse all kirjas, kui selle avate.29 March 2018 06:30
Margus Meigo commented on James Smith's post.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
Change the handle to @H2Kclan / URL Ryan Eley29 March 2018 06:05
Margus Meigo replied to Chrischelsea Eley's comment.
was this guy alive after he got hit by it, the one with helmet ?
29 March 2018 05:59
Margus Meigo replied to Chrischelsea Eley's comment.
well i wanna be far away from next one
grazy ones :D:D
grazy ones :D:D
29 March 2018 05:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and you 2, with full education and time keeping, CRM 's and virtual worlds, gov updates and all other website main data reorganized as You need
29 March 2018 05:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
These ones who broke their networks of humans around the world, made great disservice for them self and for the gift they was given.. will You even know, in what methods the new worlds will give you opportunity to connect and find people, based on what laws and rules ?
Will these random people you needed to sift your persecution ever come near to You ?
Well.. anyway... give it a trust, soon as new GUI interface and data re-organizing usage will be possible in here.. You will pray to be on the age to be bale to use something like this
that can come from it,
I always have seen potential in face-book, eventually,
the tool i need to govern the world
Will these random people you needed to sift your persecution ever come near to You ?
Well.. anyway... give it a trust, soon as new GUI interface and data re-organizing usage will be possible in here.. You will pray to be on the age to be bale to use something like this
that can come from it,
I always have seen potential in face-book, eventually,
the tool i need to govern the world
29 March 2018 05:16
Margus Meigo replied to Glenn Zealous's comment.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
in future campaigning facebook pinpointya & will throw your windows in when ya escape29 March 2018 05:08
Margus Meigo replied to Glenn Zealous's comment.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
if you run from facebook we run after ya !29 March 2018 05:07
Margus Meigo replied to Glenn Zealous's comment.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
Well we need to get them back ,what is wrong with them :D
Do they not hear, do not spit in old cave before the new one is ready,
We make Accounts for them, and deliver pw'ds, so they can when needed :p29 March 2018 05:07
Margus Meigo commented on Daniel James's post.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
Yea remember the times when
on 1:kick:#:/join #
or
if ($knick == $me) join $chan
did not need to be explained to teenagers29 March 2018 04:50
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Dall's comment.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
yeah that happened :D29 March 2018 04:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
https://youtu.be/TMrBHYSkGe8?t=338
https://youtu.be/TMrBHYSkGe8?t=338
29 March 2018 04:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
Like as in the poem:
https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=TtE--gj28_chttps://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=TtE--gj28_c
29 March 2018 04:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
for every correct one they need to produce tens of thousands of ...
but yea, to protect All the upper layers that we our self would like to run and do better
and eliminate only these ones who absolutely have no need, like copyright that attacks the ones who SHARE for FREE other person Good work,
... i mean, persons should usually get pay'd for making something available not burnished,
in future world where Internet becomes complete in eliminating borders of what can be and what can be not in where , some places must be and order run by ancient nature29 March 2018 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
When our Grew is interlinked with about 150 or more people, this is all we need, as long we know , the Human humanness,
// and be able to protect this what we get out there
Well, DARPA is like 100 & 229 March 2018 04:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
why Don't you =?
29 March 2018 04:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but they not dare to get to high level
29 March 2018 04:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
But these who do not Soul, do not barely understand nothing, except on really high level, if they dare to admit
29 March 2018 04:37
Margus Meigo replied to Janno Kuldkepp's comment.
loomas
29 March 2018 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to Janno Kuldkepp's comment.
Homme linnas korda tooomas
29 March 2018 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to Janno Kuldkepp's comment.
seekord ise
29 March 2018 04:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Eii ega ma miskit ei rääghi :P
29 March 2018 04:29
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Dall's comment.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
Beautiful times, readable logs,
Now middle of logs are some dick fly'ng in to a pumpkins29 March 2018 04:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
Mr. Nice Guyman :D29 March 2018 04:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
untaxed ones or the ones that wakeup people29 March 2018 04:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
the kind who say "we do not need drugs"29 March 2018 04:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
government in here is under invasion of west to force to sell us out with new clean cut guys29 March 2018 04:13
Margus Meigo commented on Chris Dall's post.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
Last 16 minutes:
Our Gov invaded business powers just few weeks ago announced to close birth house down as "Production is less then 500 units in a year" (in small remote aria of natural ancient people reserve, ancient important royal city.. )
Nice29 March 2018 04:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Neeme Tonisson : share that if u liked, in some where : )
Alko peab poodidest kaduma ja puskariajamise taastama samal ajal, suitsud ka kaduma, poest,
ning sunniviisiliseks võiks veel riigi sees elutervislikult elamise teha enamustes mõõtmetes muidu võetakse riigitoetustelt maha kui meelega normaalelamise vastu vaieldaks, ained igaüks las kasutab mis iganes senikaua kui silmaga näha on soov elada riigile kasulikuse suunas
Alko peab poodidest kaduma ja puskariajamise taastama samal ajal, suitsud ka kaduma, poest,
ning sunniviisiliseks võiks veel riigi sees elutervislikult elamise teha enamustes mõõtmetes muidu võetakse riigitoetustelt maha kui meelega normaalelamise vastu vaieldaks, ained igaüks las kasutab mis iganes senikaua kui silmaga näha on soov elada riigile kasulikuse suunas
29 March 2018 03:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 March 2018 03:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHpUMgAGLtM&list=PLPR1C-6gIe1j0y9z85qV9-iVdDANf4oAG&index=4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHpUMgAGLtM&list=PLPR1C-6gIe1j0y9z85qV9-iVdDANf4oAG&index=4
29 March 2018 03:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
// n00ber beauty screener of memory usage...
Sweeet times
when 512MB was a lot, for running few OS'es and tens of applications, from what few alone did more then few together in these days
in some Worlds,
another worlds have evolved far in future same time,
But lets link all the worlds now,29 March 2018 03:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just drop nmothing to high profile on screen and all is good
29 March 2018 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
And You know what is most amazing,
all-that and 0 skilz
Proove othervize
retorical, can not
all-that and 0 skilz
Proove othervize
retorical, can not
29 March 2018 03:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
greets from 83 to 82
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhebl9oD5Lc&list=PLPR1C-6gIe1j0y9z85qV9-iVdDANf4oAG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhebl9oD5Lc&list=PLPR1C-6gIe1j0y9z85qV9-iVdDANf4oAG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhebl9oD5Lc&list=PLPR1C-6gIe1j0y9z85qV9-iVdDANf4oAG
29 March 2018 03:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 March 2018 03:24
Margus Meigo commented on James Smith's post.
29 March 2018 03:17
Margus Meigo commented on Stuart Neville's post.
Group: H2kclan Reunion
Well, are we : )29 March 2018 03:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sellised pudulikused, olenemata maetiposti kõrgusest, saab sunniviisiliselt ravile viia, pehmesse palatissse armsate heathaltike iniemstega, kuni maharahuneb loom ja arusaama hakab mis ta valesti selle maa inimeste osas tegi
NortForest est koos raibaltik betooniatega ja TartuHävitajatega juba ees ootamas sääl, taastusravil
NortForest est koos raibaltik betooniatega ja TartuHävitajatega juba ees ootamas sääl, taastusravil
29 March 2018 03:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Milleks naise sündis see tema ja jumalavaheline asi aga selleks milleks nad meid tegid, see peaks ikka arusaadav olema,
ja kui on eluagne puue siis peaks ikkagi, hoolt kandma, et inimpuudulikust võõi muud hullu, inimvastalikust või inimvastikust lausa koos või ilma kroonilise unustamiseta (krooniline unustamine sleles osas mis ja milleks siin inimene ja teised ning unustamatus ebaõigete vigade ja arusaamade osas mille alustõdesi pole nõus selgeks sööma, pole nõus seeni sööma ega peale tegema korda saamiseks.)
ja kui on eluagne puue siis peaks ikkagi, hoolt kandma, et inimpuudulikust võõi muud hullu, inimvastalikust või inimvastikust lausa koos või ilma kroonilise unustamiseta (krooniline unustamine sleles osas mis ja milleks siin inimene ja teised ning unustamatus ebaõigete vigade ja arusaamade osas mille alustõdesi pole nõus selgeks sööma, pole nõus seeni sööma ega peale tegema korda saamiseks.)
29 March 2018 03:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#NaisePuudulikus peaks olema ka eraldi puudena ja toetusena saadav
esiteks, et üõeptaks arusaama, meest Ühsikonnas, et see reaalne puue
esiteks, et üõeptaks arusaama, meest Ühsikonnas, et see reaalne puue
29 March 2018 03:09
Margus Meigo replied to Jaak Johanson's comment.
mul ainult kirja-puudulikus ja veel paar puuet peale naise puudulikuse
29 March 2018 03:08
Margus Meigo replied to Jaak Johanson's comment.
Enamus pole siiani veel arusaanud, et see on Loodud Inimliigi arendmaiseks ja maaera juhtimissüsteemi inimesi rakendamaks, et oma evolutsiooni viimane aste läbida ja uusti loodusega kokku saada,
nu millest me siin räägime, täielikuks sõjaliseks kaitseks ja sund ja vabatahtlikuks inimliigi parandus arenduseks seda süsteemi keerata osakn minagi
nu millest me siin räägime, täielikuks sõjaliseks kaitseks ja sund ja vabatahtlikuks inimliigi parandus arenduseks seda süsteemi keerata osakn minagi
29 March 2018 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Johanson's photo.
Avatud toimik on siis kui Eestikeele allesjääud sšamaanidele selgeks õpetame ja vaimutundlikutele, ning nad saavad ilma filtrita kanaldama hakata iga inimse siseinfot ja olemust ning see adekvaatsesse süsteemi rakendatakse
29 March 2018 03:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See niiöelda konservatiivide klubi ja rshvuslased veel Eestlastele vastust andma peavad, enne v peale lahkumist siit ilmast
29 March 2018 03:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sinna hulka käivad ka privaat tõdemused mõtted ka lopuks kuid eelkõige pundid kellega läbi käiakse ja mis jutte saunas räägitakse
ning kellega mis lepinguid raskematel aegadel ollakse nõus tegema enda tugeva positsiooni säilitamiseks
Kuidas ollakse.
Eks poovin järmgisel korral, ehk võimalik teiega sääl välisstuudios kohtuda, kui õigre vaim kaasas mul siis saab asja ka kokkupõrkest!
ning kellega mis lepinguid raskematel aegadel ollakse nõus tegema enda tugeva positsiooni säilitamiseks
Kuidas ollakse.
Eks poovin järmgisel korral, ehk võimalik teiega sääl välisstuudios kohtuda, kui õigre vaim kaasas mul siis saab asja ka kokkupõrkest!
29 March 2018 03:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid selles mõttes värvus polegi oluline, Võim loeb ja selle rakendamine koos üleloomulike arusaamade, julguste ja seljatagusega ning koostööpartneritele...
Kudi miks sellised mõtted tulevad ainuüksi pidevalt, nii sellest ajast kui Ühe vanema daamiga söndasid vastanduda äärepealt ja ....
// Et ku isuurel hulgal nendel inimestel kes kärmed ja hea oskusega tundmaks neid inimesi ja olemusi kes Maarahva südamele armastatud ja vajalikud,
eelkõige mis vajalik,
et kui sellise suure targa olemisega olevuse nagu Jaak, et mis see tähendab, kui tuleb millegi pärast esile selle inimese osas tunded, sinu osas, et kas selliseid komiteesi saaks rahastada, nõustuskid rahastama, kes hakkab välja profiililma inimeste olemusi ja potensiaalseid kavatsusi ja kes hakkab määrama , nagu ViisakusKomitee mis on sobilik ja mis sobilikum
Meie Kodumaa ja Heameelsete teiste maaravaste silmis
Kudi miks sellised mõtted tulevad ainuüksi pidevalt, nii sellest ajast kui Ühe vanema daamiga söndasid vastanduda äärepealt ja ....
// Et ku isuurel hulgal nendel inimestel kes kärmed ja hea oskusega tundmaks neid inimesi ja olemusi kes Maarahva südamele armastatud ja vajalikud,
eelkõige mis vajalik,
et kui sellise suure targa olemisega olevuse nagu Jaak, et mis see tähendab, kui tuleb millegi pärast esile selle inimese osas tunded, sinu osas, et kas selliseid komiteesi saaks rahastada, nõustuskid rahastama, kes hakkab välja profiililma inimeste olemusi ja potensiaalseid kavatsusi ja kes hakkab määrama , nagu ViisakusKomitee mis on sobilik ja mis sobilikum
Meie Kodumaa ja Heameelsete teiste maaravaste silmis
29 March 2018 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid mega tugevaks relvaks ka valitud Sind punaste poolele
29 March 2018 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(kes neid kahte Marvel ifilmi ei tea, see ei tea)
29 March 2018 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lihtsalt vaimutugevuse sümboliseerimiseks
29 March 2018 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on Jaan Tootsen's photo.
Jaak Sina oled Üks väga Hull ja Ohtlik mees
Kuid jah, üks Filmiliselt Wolverini ja Hellboy segu
Kuid jah, üks Filmiliselt Wolverini ja Hellboy segu
29 March 2018 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kohe kui internet nii targaks Saab, t Sa Ülo seda selliselt kasutada saaksid nagu tarvis, seda tuleviku jäls õiget märgetega siit leitavaks teha... siis
29 March 2018 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Johanson's photo.
Viisakas ilus kohft, sobib Sulle, eemalt juba vaatsin, et miski linas ja rahvarõivas vms.
Muidugi Pildi jagamisel ,peaks inimesel ise juurde kirjutatud ka olema, mida ta mõtleb sellega,
Muidugi Pildi jagamisel ,peaks inimesel ise juurde kirjutatud ka olema, mida ta mõtleb sellega,
29 March 2018 02:51
Margus Meigo replied to Urmas E Heino Heinaste's comment.
Hea inimese defin mul oma lehel just TallinnaTV seotud teemapostituse ligi kuid suures osas koosenb see Jumalakartlikusest, Loodusetarkusest ja Inimese armastusest
29 March 2018 02:49
Margus Meigo replied to Urmas E Heino Heinaste's comment.
Kes internettidest õigest hakkab arusaama ja Jumalavaimu integreerida paremini aitab enne seda ku iviisnurk sama instruktsiooni ja imitatsiooni hoopis algelisemal ja piiratumal kujul loplikuks seduseks teeb võttes võimaluse käest muuta neid organsiatsionne, tehnilisi , sellisteks, et nad iniemstega koostööd peaksid inimeste soovide osas tegema, inimeseks saab aga nimetada inimesemoodi käituvat ja mõtlevat
Hea inimese moodi käituvat olendit või vaimu
Hea inimese moodi käituvat olendit või vaimu
29 March 2018 02:49
Margus Meigo replied to Urmas E Heino Heinaste's comment.
Anonüümssuee poole pürgiad tuleks vastutusele võtta
Ainult kellegi kodu saab olla anonüümne, aga mitte internetivõrgud väljaspool pere ja teiste elu puudutavat
Ainult kellegi kodu saab olla anonüümne, aga mitte internetivõrgud väljaspool pere ja teiste elu puudutavat
29 March 2018 02:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ning Tuevikke
29 March 2018 02:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja teisi ja ajalugu
29 March 2018 02:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Peab inimestele peale maksma, et nad ennast sooviks alles hoida
29 March 2018 02:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// Muide kui imestad miks seda salvestada enam üldse vaja oli, siis selleks ,et ma seda aega veel läbi teen ...
// suurema tõenäosuega kui opime säilitama kõike tõdesi ja neid arusaama,
// ja kui oled nüus lipsu mahajätma, siis võid täeisti õigesse punti sattuda ja Eestlasena veel metsakõdulõhna tunda
// suurema tõenäosuega kui opime säilitama kõike tõdesi ja neid arusaama,
// ja kui oled nüus lipsu mahajätma, siis võid täeisti õigesse punti sattuda ja Eestlasena veel metsakõdulõhna tunda
29 March 2018 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eelkõige Naisterahvaid selles osas kellele ise maksaksin või mõni auväärne vanem asjalik või noor kellel väga tarvis.
Võrdõiguslikuse jura lõpetamine on ka osa tööst. Kuid sellei tolle 16 tunni jooksul jõuame ainult osaliselt keskenduda.
Eelkõige keskendume, et inimesed üldse, oleks veel võimelised, praegusel viimasel ajal kus see kergesti võimalik on, endale jätta alles õimiväärsuse õigused oma elukeskonna säilitamise ja võõrvõimu moodide välja surumise osas
Võrdõiguslikuse jura lõpetamine on ka osa tööst. Kuid sellei tolle 16 tunni jooksul jõuame ainult osaliselt keskenduda.
Eelkõige keskendume, et inimesed üldse, oleks veel võimelised, praegusel viimasel ajal kus see kergesti võimalik on, endale jätta alles õimiväärsuse õigused oma elukeskonna säilitamise ja võõrvõimu moodide välja surumise osas
29 March 2018 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja need kes minule endale soovivad,
Panustada suurerahaliselt või heasoovlikusega vastuteeneks, et minuga vestelda, ja arusaame pärida selles mis oluliseim
Selleks ka teadmata aegadel enamasti veel avatud
Panustada suurerahaliselt või heasoovlikusega vastuteeneks, et minuga vestelda, ja arusaame pärida selles mis oluliseim
Selleks ka teadmata aegadel enamasti veel avatud
29 March 2018 01:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 March 2018 00:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kas Arvad, et ta Saab Tarkusega välja mõeldud ja tõestatud seda mida me kõik väliselt siseimas soovime kõigile kui ettekujutlusvõime vüimadaks maaelukeskonda
29 March 2018 00:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Järgi minu mottekäiku ja loe neid asju Mis Sulle mõeldud
29 March 2018 00:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kas Sina koos Einar Laignaga, keda me ka koos toetama peame,
(Kui ta oleks nõus juuksed, habeme kasvatama ja koos seenemeestega metsas paar ööd luusima, kui ta selleks võimeline pole siis ei saa Eestimaane ka olla kui ninapidi kopitnaud lehtedes head hõngu ärgates tundnud pole või sinna langedes)
(Kui ta oleks nõus juuksed, habeme kasvatama ja koos seenemeestega metsas paar ööd luusima, kui ta selleks võimeline pole siis ei saa Eestimaane ka olla kui ninapidi kopitnaud lehtedes head hõngu ärgates tundnud pole või sinna langedes)
29 March 2018 00:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See liberaalsust mida prill vist proovis keelega mängeldes uskuma panna, et oleks nagu tegu mingi peaaegu normaalse keeleliselt lähedase arusaamaga sellele mida me taotlema peaks
või mida meie maa kirjeldamisel arvatakse meeltes, südames, kodustes või võõraste arvates,
VabaRiit,
Edaspidi Ütleme Eesti FreeCountry
or Estonia FreeLand
Or something like that, To make it Clear
või mida meie maa kirjeldamisel arvatakse meeltes, südames, kodustes või võõraste arvates,
VabaRiit,
Edaspidi Ütleme Eesti FreeCountry
or Estonia FreeLand
Or something like that, To make it Clear
29 March 2018 00:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
võtan sonad tagasi noornatside ja ekre osas ja sonastan seda meelsust kui: Liberaalsust
29 March 2018 00:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kas Sina oled Ülo Vooglaid'u pigem toetav või neid noornatse ning akadeeemilisi väärtustunnetuseta ebaeestlasliku loppkäitumisega erinevad kujud ja nagu pantvangis ka selle käes, kes Saadet juhib juuksed üle pea kammitult, ta paras paar pigem EKRE ga halvas mõttes (teate küll millest räägin, head Ekrelased)
kuid need kes pole pimestatud siluetist, ega hüpnoosi all,
siis
kuid need kes pole pimestatud siluetist, ega hüpnoosi all,
siis
29 March 2018 00:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja pigem MAALASED kui linnatulnukad,
tugevalt MAA inimesed ja NENDE ÜLD LOOOMUSE kui absoluutne Lõpp Õiguskord, KUI ..
Lipsud-prillid-professorid-kes-elukauged-akadeemikud
Valguse Maa
tugevalt MAA inimesed ja NENDE ÜLD LOOOMUSE kui absoluutne Lõpp Õiguskord, KUI ..
Lipsud-prillid-professorid-kes-elukauged-akadeemikud
Valguse Maa
29 March 2018 00:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eriti enamustele need kes targalt eestlased on
29 March 2018 00:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But As Communist infiltrated MASSIVE amount of Greens, and Inside Greens, the Old TRUE Greens people and their national friends.. .
Well.. and all them was planned to be re tested as long, and final mind programmed or eliminated nonprogrammable...
// so yes, must take understanding, et isegi Kodutunde,
Õnnetus, saab olla meelega selle maailma rünnak ja sissesõit,
neile kellele PÄRIS kodutunne anti ja anta julgetaks,e
Seepärast me PÄRISELT peame
Iga Hinge eest, seda vel suuremalt jätkama,
Mul selleks militarisltik plaan ka mis suurele osale meeldib
Well.. and all them was planned to be re tested as long, and final mind programmed or eliminated nonprogrammable...
// so yes, must take understanding, et isegi Kodutunde,
Õnnetus, saab olla meelega selle maailma rünnak ja sissesõit,
neile kellele PÄRIS kodutunne anti ja anta julgetaks,e
Seepärast me PÄRISELT peame
Iga Hinge eest, seda vel suuremalt jätkama,
Mul selleks militarisltik plaan ka mis suurele osale meeldib
29 March 2018 00:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The 3 options, was selected in most finest final defination of absolute minimum good
29 March 2018 00:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So yes, focus.
29 March 2018 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// Related to Water.. they now managed to Take water out of Africa... as
29 March 2018 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And some in TV even make it sound, to the people who they in purpose was keeping in Thinking Prison,
About HOW Tech is working and HOW it can be used to Liberate Water For People
About HOW Tech is working and HOW it can be used to Liberate Water For People
29 March 2018 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Good People: Definition,
Mostly human, who serve God, Nature & Humans
Mostly human, who serve God, Nature & Humans
29 March 2018 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
unless it is negative information related to people in story who cause negativity to good people
29 March 2018 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
People at times fail to acknowledge, why was Internet given to people:
to military, yes for the reason it was ,to help to govern people and let people govern them self in most smartest way by shearing anything that is digital if shearing it will not cause strain on any direct service or story related people
to military, yes for the reason it was ,to help to govern people and let people govern them self in most smartest way by shearing anything that is digital if shearing it will not cause strain on any direct service or story related people
29 March 2018 00:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ülo vooglaidu tagasilööki nägid Tallina TV s ?
Ulm, hakkasid jahuma keset saadet, nagu meie riigi tähendus olekski Liberalism ja Demokraatia kiitmine ja see ka see mida nad ise tegid ilma selgitamata asjade tumedamaid olemusi ja olukorda kas siis nendearvates on need struktuurid kes head teha takistavad nende poolsed vüõi meie poolsed ja kes kuidas ,
nimelsielt iniemsed vastased üles omavhael otsida
Ulm, hakkasid jahuma keset saadet, nagu meie riigi tähendus olekski Liberalism ja Demokraatia kiitmine ja see ka see mida nad ise tegid ilma selgitamata asjade tumedamaid olemusi ja olukorda kas siis nendearvates on need struktuurid kes head teha takistavad nende poolsed vüõi meie poolsed ja kes kuidas ,
nimelsielt iniemsed vastased üles omavhael otsida
29 March 2018 00:16
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Kuid see kuidas jalgpallist räägitakse ja mis sonadega treenitakse, kuidas jhendatakse, saab inimlikuks militaristliku alaväärsitamise oleku, koostööLoomu lubajate, need jähkrad oma meestega metsas ümer kasvatada tuleb kes üle soitma hakkab kellegi inimlikuse tõttu
29 March 2018 00:14
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TarmO: (teooria lihtsalt jooksmas, kus kui tulnukad jalgpalli yle planeedi kasutavad ja meil väheseid on kus enamus inim suunalise kontrollis on.... )
Pohlakule ka tervisi
Pohlakule ka tervisi
29 March 2018 00:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
olenemata kultuurist
29 March 2018 00:13
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kuid tulev teha siis INIM jalgpall imeeskonnad, Krusima kohe saaks olla selles, esindatud,
Tarmo Kruusimäe, meie maal see ka võimalik, eriti kuna meil vestiga habemes Jalgpalli isa veel MEID Maal hoiab, maaligi, mees kes pole üle võetud ka lähimate sügavaimate rünnakute tõttu mida planeeriti viamupildi ja oleku alandmaiseks (suurmaid laimukampaaniaid korrldatakse ka hinge tasemel, sellsied emotsiooni või olukorraga seotud mis märgi nagunii kylge jätab, selleks esimene samm on selle inimesega päris elus olukordasi korradamine, mis korvalseisjatele siiratele jättsi mngi mulje, et midadigi ika eaõige oli, järjepideva uue pealtnägijate KUI TEATER SIIS PEALTNÄGIJAD ÜLIVAATAVUSES.. et .. siis temale veel seda mis on räägivad 3-4 suvalist iiemst elu jooksul ja moni eriti ühte ja teist niisama usutluse kaudu välja pakkudes, ja siis alatu vale eesmärgil kohtumiseks ainult edasi suhtlusesse tuleb keegi kes selleks, et pärast saaks päris elu patu varjundi inimese peale tõmmata.... nu see suht elementaarne, aga inimekeeles seletada kirjeldad,a eks saab, siis selle omakorda eeestikeele lastekeelest rahvusvahelissse keelede ja tagaasi tolkida vaadata kas endiselt on ta ka Uuesi Eestlaste kuuldes piisav, et Arusaada sellest mis on Eksimine ja mis Mitte)
Tarmo Kruusimäe, meie maal see ka võimalik, eriti kuna meil vestiga habemes Jalgpalli isa veel MEID Maal hoiab, maaligi, mees kes pole üle võetud ka lähimate sügavaimate rünnakute tõttu mida planeeriti viamupildi ja oleku alandmaiseks (suurmaid laimukampaaniaid korrldatakse ka hinge tasemel, sellsied emotsiooni või olukorraga seotud mis märgi nagunii kylge jätab, selleks esimene samm on selle inimesega päris elus olukordasi korradamine, mis korvalseisjatele siiratele jättsi mngi mulje, et midadigi ika eaõige oli, järjepideva uue pealtnägijate KUI TEATER SIIS PEALTNÄGIJAD ÜLIVAATAVUSES.. et .. siis temale veel seda mis on räägivad 3-4 suvalist iiemst elu jooksul ja moni eriti ühte ja teist niisama usutluse kaudu välja pakkudes, ja siis alatu vale eesmärgil kohtumiseks ainult edasi suhtlusesse tuleb keegi kes selleks, et pärast saaks päris elu patu varjundi inimese peale tõmmata.... nu see suht elementaarne, aga inimekeeles seletada kirjeldad,a eks saab, siis selle omakorda eeestikeele lastekeelest rahvusvahelissse keelede ja tagaasi tolkida vaadata kas endiselt on ta ka Uuesi Eestlaste kuuldes piisav, et Arusaada sellest mis on Eksimine ja mis Mitte)
29 March 2018 00:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(arvestades milleks Jalgpall loodud on, suure Elliga,
Omavhaelsite andmebankade tulemite info edais andmine ja inimesi neid kes arvasime vabathatlikult, need kes telekas, neid jooksma panna suure sosas nii... neid Peamisi, neid kes juhivad jalgpalli maailma mitte need keda järgi lubatakse iniemteerida ... lisaks ta hea peapesu programm, äärmilitaristlik sõjalis poliitiline mailine jõud, jalväega võrdne struktuur viamumaailmas)
Omavhaelsite andmebankade tulemite info edais andmine ja inimesi neid kes arvasime vabathatlikult, need kes telekas, neid jooksma panna suure sosas nii... neid Peamisi, neid kes juhivad jalgpalli maailma mitte need keda järgi lubatakse iniemteerida ... lisaks ta hea peapesu programm, äärmilitaristlik sõjalis poliitiline mailine jõud, jalväega võrdne struktuur viamumaailmas)
29 March 2018 00:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muide kas tipp Jalgpon palju päris Inimesi
või on ainult Tulnukad ja Mõned rojaalsed?
või on ainult Tulnukad ja Mõned rojaalsed?
29 March 2018 00:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Country as Virtual to Behavioral
29 March 2018 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
UN_ÜRO
29 March 2018 00:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui selle saame tehtud nii suurte tarkvarafirmade kui riikide koostöös
29 March 2018 00:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
need kighid oleksid saanud ju veel omavahel suhelda.. aj saavad ka
29 March 2018 00:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mambojabo:
yt 3 viimast
(kuigi see YT videode haldus ja potnsiaal meelega ni maa keeratud et kohe.... aiih.... isegi annnantionid aktiivsed keelati ja nendeedasi arendus...... )
yt 3 viimast
(kuigi see YT videode haldus ja potnsiaal meelega ni maa keeratud et kohe.... aiih.... isegi annnantionid aktiivsed keelati ja nendeedasi arendus...... )
29 March 2018 00:02
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28 March 2018 23:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kunagi filmis selgitame :
28 March 2018 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Samal ajal Väga hea ja oluline Kaplonite Teema tuli vast, ei tea kuidas,
28 March 2018 23:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ära mine närvi ära mine, ära mine närvi, ega närviminek pole Mecka kuhu peab minema
28 March 2018 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
PS_ Vabandust,
See pakkumine aegsu, Tallinna Reis tuloi vahele
See pakkumine aegsu, Tallinna Reis tuloi vahele
28 March 2018 23:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja kui ta Wikipeedia, Kanepi ja Veel naiste teemade osas nad räägivad. .teate
28 March 2018 23:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja jopski ei julgenud yle tulla ja Vooglaidi poolele astuda
28 March 2018 23:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ja see mmees sai ka mööda näppe kes hakkas ilkuma Vooglaiu kallal, saab moll iintelekutaalselt kovasti
28 March 2018 23:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"There is also a suggestion that after their psychedelic journey, the leaders’ notions of religion shifted away from the sectarian towards something more universal. “They get a greater appreciation for other world religions. Other ways up the mountain, if you will,” said Richards.
“In these transcendental states of consciousness, people seem to get to levels of consciousness that seem universal,” he added. “So a good rabbi can encounter the Buddha within him.”
The notion that hallucinogenic drugs can bring about mystical experiences is not new and was previously studied in a famous Harvard study known as the “Good Friday experiment”. The study involved a group of seminary scholars being given psilocybin during the Easter-season service to see how it altered their experience of the liturgy. The latest work is thought to be the first involving religious leaders from different faiths.
Is this work really science, though? Richards argues that it is, saying that the team is using detailed psychology questionnaires and independent raters in their assessments.
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The John Hopkins team are one of several research groups around the world making the case for using psychedelic drugs, such as psilocybin, LSD and MDMA, in psychiatry. Psilocybin has been shown to be remarkably effective at lifting acute anxiety in cancer patients at the end of life, while other current trials are looking at the use of psychoactive drugs in treating conditions ranging from post-traumatic stress disorder to severe depression and alcoholism.
As the use of mind-expanding drugs makes the transition from counter-culture to mainstream medicine, scientists take different views on how the field should be presented to the outside world.
Ben Sessa, a clinical psychiatrist and researcher at Imperial College London, has urged journalists to focus on the “rigorous science”. “Are you going to focus on the tie-dye and the dreads … or are you going to look at the cutting-edge neuroscience here?” he asked. “I can’t tell you how to do your job, but if I was you, I’d not look back to the past, I’d look to the future.”
Others are more openly enthusiastic about the broader, non-medical, uses of psychedelic drugs. “My wild fantasy is that, probably some time after I’m long dead, these drugs are used in seminary training, rabbinical training,” said Richards, who began research into psychedelics in the 1960s. “Why shouldn’t the opportunity be there to explore deeply spiritual states of consciousness in a legal way?”"
“In these transcendental states of consciousness, people seem to get to levels of consciousness that seem universal,” he added. “So a good rabbi can encounter the Buddha within him.”
The notion that hallucinogenic drugs can bring about mystical experiences is not new and was previously studied in a famous Harvard study known as the “Good Friday experiment”. The study involved a group of seminary scholars being given psilocybin during the Easter-season service to see how it altered their experience of the liturgy. The latest work is thought to be the first involving religious leaders from different faiths.
Is this work really science, though? Richards argues that it is, saying that the team is using detailed psychology questionnaires and independent raters in their assessments.
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The John Hopkins team are one of several research groups around the world making the case for using psychedelic drugs, such as psilocybin, LSD and MDMA, in psychiatry. Psilocybin has been shown to be remarkably effective at lifting acute anxiety in cancer patients at the end of life, while other current trials are looking at the use of psychoactive drugs in treating conditions ranging from post-traumatic stress disorder to severe depression and alcoholism.
As the use of mind-expanding drugs makes the transition from counter-culture to mainstream medicine, scientists take different views on how the field should be presented to the outside world.
Ben Sessa, a clinical psychiatrist and researcher at Imperial College London, has urged journalists to focus on the “rigorous science”. “Are you going to focus on the tie-dye and the dreads … or are you going to look at the cutting-edge neuroscience here?” he asked. “I can’t tell you how to do your job, but if I was you, I’d not look back to the past, I’d look to the future.”
Others are more openly enthusiastic about the broader, non-medical, uses of psychedelic drugs. “My wild fantasy is that, probably some time after I’m long dead, these drugs are used in seminary training, rabbinical training,” said Richards, who began research into psychedelics in the 1960s. “Why shouldn’t the opportunity be there to explore deeply spiritual states of consciousness in a legal way?”"
28 March 2018 21:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Cant make it up my self better even if would want to :D
"“Their instruction is to go within and collect experiences,” Richards said, after presenting his work at the Breaking Convention conference in London this month. “So far everyone incredibly values their experience. No one has been confused or upset or regrets doing it.”
A full analysis of the outcomes will take place after a one-year follow-up with the participants, whose identities are being kept anonymous. “It is too early to talk about results, but generally people seem to be getting a deeper appreciation of their own religious heritage,” he said. “The dead dogma comes alive for them in a meaningful way. They discover they really believe this stuff they’re talking about.”
"“Their instruction is to go within and collect experiences,” Richards said, after presenting his work at the Breaking Convention conference in London this month. “So far everyone incredibly values their experience. No one has been confused or upset or regrets doing it.”
A full analysis of the outcomes will take place after a one-year follow-up with the participants, whose identities are being kept anonymous. “It is too early to talk about results, but generally people seem to be getting a deeper appreciation of their own religious heritage,” he said. “The dead dogma comes alive for them in a meaningful way. They discover they really believe this stuff they’re talking about.”
28 March 2018 21:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But unfortunately.. they still plan to take MUSHROOMS in a City.. ohh this scientists,, did they not learn anything on 60s psychiatric laboratory.. but hey, with religious minds they just might pull it off in one of the alien most infiltrated city, who knows.,
"espite most organised religions frowning on the use of illicit substances, Catholic, Orthodox and Presbyterian priests, a Zen Buddhist and several rabbis were recruited. The team has yet to persuade a Muslim imam or Hindu priest to take part, but “just about all the other bases are covered,” according to Richards.
After preliminary screening, including medical and psychological tests, the participants have been given two powerful doses of psilocybin in two sessions, one month apart.
The sessions will be conducted in a living room-like setting at New York University and Johns Hopkins in Baltimore with two “guides” present. The participants will be given the drug and then spend time lying on a couch, wearing eyeshades and listening to religious music on headphones to augment their inward spiritual journey. "
"espite most organised religions frowning on the use of illicit substances, Catholic, Orthodox and Presbyterian priests, a Zen Buddhist and several rabbis were recruited. The team has yet to persuade a Muslim imam or Hindu priest to take part, but “just about all the other bases are covered,” according to Richards.
After preliminary screening, including medical and psychological tests, the participants have been given two powerful doses of psilocybin in two sessions, one month apart.
The sessions will be conducted in a living room-like setting at New York University and Johns Hopkins in Baltimore with two “guides” present. The participants will be given the drug and then spend time lying on a couch, wearing eyeshades and listening to religious music on headphones to augment their inward spiritual journey. "
28 March 2018 21:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mu vanad plaanid mis lendu lastud, Jumalale viidud.. nüüd siin ja sääl realiseeruvad täiesti seaduslikult veel.. kuni saab võitu:
"A Catholic priest, a Rabbi and a Buddhist walk into a bar and order some magic mushrooms. It may sound like the first line of a bad joke, but this scenario is playing out in one of the first scientific investigations into the effects of psychedelic drugs on religious experience – albeit in a laboratory rather than a bar.
Scientists at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore have enlisted two dozen religious leaders from a wide range of denominations, to participate in a study in which they will be given two powerful doses of psilocybin, the active ingredient in magic mushrooms.
Dr William Richards, a psychologist at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland who is involved in the work, said: “With psilocybin these profound mystical experiences are quite common. It seemed like a no-brainer that they might be of interest, if not valuable, to clergy.”
"A Catholic priest, a Rabbi and a Buddhist walk into a bar and order some magic mushrooms. It may sound like the first line of a bad joke, but this scenario is playing out in one of the first scientific investigations into the effects of psychedelic drugs on religious experience – albeit in a laboratory rather than a bar.
Scientists at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore have enlisted two dozen religious leaders from a wide range of denominations, to participate in a study in which they will be given two powerful doses of psilocybin, the active ingredient in magic mushrooms.
Dr William Richards, a psychologist at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland who is involved in the work, said: “With psilocybin these profound mystical experiences are quite common. It seemed like a no-brainer that they might be of interest, if not valuable, to clergy.”
28 March 2018 21:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Maksimum saab ka 4 tunni peale ja 4 päevapeale asja laotada
28 March 2018 19:46
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Tuus
28 March 2018 19:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kergelt
28 March 2018 07:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Soovitavalt kogemusi kergemate projektikirjutamiste või projekti instruktsioonide järgimisel
28 March 2018 07:32
Margus Meigo commented on Elina Netšajeva's post.
Kui vaid oleks olnud võimlausi! :)
28 March 2018 07:30
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https://discovermyprofile.com/?utm_source=ams
https://discovermyprofile.com/?utm_source=ams
28 March 2018 06:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.facebook.com/v2.5/dialog/oauth?client_id=141955439306064&response_type=code&_csrf=ef327ee7-9d7b-49bc-8283-0b931e819457&redirect_uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapplymagicsauce.com%2Fconnect%2Ffacebook&scope=user_likes%2Cuser_posts&state=dc2c44b5-9184-45c3-affd-1dfec5bc27db
28 March 2018 06:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Your digital footprint suggests that you are the epitome of masculinity"
https://applymagicsauce.com/
https://applymagicsauce.com/
https://applymagicsauce.com/
28 March 2018 06:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
from spiritual world sensing there is great co-operation plans against facebook by at least getting many people to break the connections by pulling out
28 March 2018 04:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ok aku otsas
28 March 2018 00:45
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
st message recived, mõtlen selle tähenduse peale :D
28 March 2018 00:41
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
autodega jah see teema, et ma nendega ise ka eiü sõida
28 March 2018 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
not related to this, but almoust still in much more suble way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi_Uj2OjP-0 i think is method how to say
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi_Uj2OjP-0 i think is method how to say
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi_Uj2OjP-0
28 March 2018 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Ja ta tõmbas keelega raiumisterast üle ning ütles..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg2iYfIu43M&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg2iYfIu43M&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg2iYfIu43M&feature=youtu.be
28 March 2018 00:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In hopes, that Hardware old school and database curus will fallow
28 March 2018 00:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// selfnote:
"Chat conversation start
Tues 21:57
sellesuhtes kõik teave meist süsteemides üleval
enam põgene mittekuhugi selleeest
mõtetel on preägusel ajal blokk peal
kõik hajub peas laiali
virust muidu tead midagi?
Veel mitte, vota üehdust, ütle, et tervitan ja hoitku lipsudest eemal 😀
ja mustadest, kes aktiivselt laisklevad ja ei soovi puhastuse suunas või heaolu suunas praktiliselt elada
vms
peaks ükspäiv rääkima
saab kõik kevademured läbi siis ehk juunis saab ka raamatuid luged
Tues 23:17
viru mulle ükskord Väääääga hea video klloonimise teenuse andis aga nüüd eip leia seda
umm
aqnnab leida ikka peale Ytube kohti kuhu sab yles laadida.. ja YT yleslaadimise välimus ka alles eila oli uus nyyd vana jälle. .hmm
Chat conversation end"
"Chat conversation start
Tues 21:57
sellesuhtes kõik teave meist süsteemides üleval
enam põgene mittekuhugi selleeest
mõtetel on preägusel ajal blokk peal
kõik hajub peas laiali
virust muidu tead midagi?
Veel mitte, vota üehdust, ütle, et tervitan ja hoitku lipsudest eemal 😀
ja mustadest, kes aktiivselt laisklevad ja ei soovi puhastuse suunas või heaolu suunas praktiliselt elada
vms
peaks ükspäiv rääkima
saab kõik kevademured läbi siis ehk juunis saab ka raamatuid luged
Tues 23:17
viru mulle ükskord Väääääga hea video klloonimise teenuse andis aga nüüd eip leia seda
umm
aqnnab leida ikka peale Ytube kohti kuhu sab yles laadida.. ja YT yleslaadimise välimus ka alles eila oli uus nyyd vana jälle. .hmm
Chat conversation end"
28 March 2018 00:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey ilmus telekasse tka tagasi
27 March 2018 22:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
27 March 2018 21:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
27 March 2018 21:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja teemadel: "Kes energeetiliselt juhib erakondi...."
ja jätkab jutul:
Jaanatoom " Kakab peamisnistri tladrikule,
ja peab
kakab peaministri taldrikule ja see peab selle osakaupa ärasööma ..."
Sellist asja ütles, for real, ja midagi veel hullu otsa
ja jätkab jutul:
Jaanatoom " Kakab peamisnistri tladrikule,
ja peab
kakab peaministri taldrikule ja see peab selle osakaupa ärasööma ..."
Sellist asja ütles, for real, ja midagi veel hullu otsa
27 March 2018 21:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
27 March 2018 21:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
27 March 2018 21:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
27 March 2018 21:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Inimene vs Lips
ja see lips on ise inimese tugevamaid kestasi, mis okupeeritud
ja see lips on ise inimese tugevamaid kestasi, mis okupeeritud
27 March 2018 21:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Võrnot kes pehmelt ja sõbralikult on vähestena Eestimeelsetena lastud rääkima teemadel ja olukordades...
Ja keda nad nii kergelt ei saa välja vahetada ja keelata eisneamst vahestki...
kuid eks iga asi saab otsa kuni lipuks nervisbrakdow tekib nagu filmi Network Vana telekanali film 80ndate film,i oma... et kuni sinnamaani
Ja keda nad nii kergelt ei saa välja vahetada ja keelata eisneamst vahestki...
kuid eks iga asi saab otsa kuni lipuks nervisbrakdow tekib nagu filmi Network Vana telekanali film 80ndate film,i oma... et kuni sinnamaani
27 March 2018 21:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sellised sona kasutab st
27 March 2018 21:46
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27 March 2018 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Osadel
27 March 2018 21:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mitte võrno viad see lips, kuid kuulame mis teema on,
See hinge motte jutu point
ja miks kaabel TV s seda ei näita :D: D:
See hinge motte jutu point
ja miks kaabel TV s seda ei näita :D: D:
27 March 2018 21:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
27 March 2018 21:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey, maybe not mafia
27 March 2018 21:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu näiteks, seegi mongi motte algus, kui muud motet ple, inimesele alustuseks.
Kui muud vimpkad ühiskonnas ette tuelvad mis ei tundu selgelt edasimindavad siis vaadata, Oot, Oot
Nagu kana
Kui muud vimpkad ühiskonnas ette tuelvad mis ei tundu selgelt edasimindavad siis vaadata, Oot, Oot
Nagu kana
27 March 2018 20:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Normaalsed ja Omalaadsed,
Kuid kõik inimlaadsed,
erinevates kindlates väärtuste suundades ja tooresinimlikuses.
Seega järeldus: Karlid on inimesed
Kuid kõik inimlaadsed,
erinevates kindlates väärtuste suundades ja tooresinimlikuses.
Seega järeldus: Karlid on inimesed
27 March 2018 20:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ilma, et neil Õiglasemad ja puhtamad kavatsused oleks
27 March 2018 20:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mõte oli, et kaasaaitama,
sellele mis lopik normalane omadus on
Kanaleid mitmeid lihtsaltmile sees inimesed suhtlevad ja mille labi, ja sis need kes mehaaniliselt ennast estabisevad erinvates komuunides
//umbes nagu need kes uksest issse tulevad ja ennast kehtestada proovivad
sellele mis lopik normalane omadus on
Kanaleid mitmeid lihtsaltmile sees inimesed suhtlevad ja mille labi, ja sis need kes mehaaniliselt ennast estabisevad erinvates komuunides
//umbes nagu need kes uksest issse tulevad ja ennast kehtestada proovivad
27 March 2018 20:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tõsiselt,
Müller
Müller
27 March 2018 20:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuna hoopisüllatusmoment emotisooni kirjeldus oli lihtsalt Suurepärane
27 March 2018 20:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lisaks tuleks ... oih, okey, 38.Na värava sisseandmine, vb jah väärt vaatmaine oli
27 March 2018 20:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et Ka mu eelmviimases lauses oli endiselt 8 sees nagu kaes eelnevas sõnumis
27 March 2018 20:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
koos oma arvamuse muutmisega oma kontingendi enda suunas turvaliselt suhtuva osas
27 March 2018 20:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tele inetused mida ETV kanalid ja Eesti Pind on eetrisse andnud, kus peale emotsionaalset Halbolu, keegi lasti eetrisse miskit ettemääratud retooorikat ilkudes väljendama ülbelt teistmoodi kui ta räägiks oma olekult siis kui ta kogu selle reaalsusega vastamisi oleks koos puutiniga
27 March 2018 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Facebook Kaitseks peaksime ka välja motlema TUGEVALT
27 March 2018 20:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tarkasi mõtestatud suhtluskeskusi aga võib küll märgatavalt tõsta
27 March 2018 20:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Seda Päris Eino Baskin'lastest uus Generatsioon kes Genereeerib EluÕpetust,
// kuid neid näidelda lubatakse eetris ainult näitlevalt, etteantud org Kaudu mitte täielik selliselt nagu ise sooviksime,
kolmanda järgu inimene üksi pole motet ju aega veeeta sellises olukorras, vaid need kes asjalised, peaksid... nad peaksid...
// kuid neid näidelda lubatakse eetris ainult näitlevalt, etteantud org Kaudu mitte täielik selliselt nagu ise sooviksime,
kolmanda järgu inimene üksi pole motet ju aega veeeta sellises olukorras, vaid need kes asjalised, peaksid... nad peaksid...
27 March 2018 20:13
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Mare Imral eks see meedia olegi üks paras segadus veel, seni kuni ma oma Meedia Programme tööle pole saanud27 March 2018 17:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
another shopping mall fire (bbs),
vs something along the lines of black hisotry onth, where some unknown was shoot and will talk about that ..in a country, 300+ mil ppl, where more then 50 is killed daily for sure
vs something along the lines of black hisotry onth, where some unknown was shoot and will talk about that ..in a country, 300+ mil ppl, where more then 50 is killed daily for sure
27 March 2018 10:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siis pandi peale vene bändine Junk Riot (Rämpsu ülestõus)
Ning järgmises klipis tervitati Operaatorit Mustafad ...
Riigitelevisioon, kultuurne hommik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7DZIsujOCI
Ning järgmises klipis tervitati Operaatorit Mustafad ...
Riigitelevisioon, kultuurne hommik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7DZIsujOCI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7DZIsujOCI
27 March 2018 08:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
on riike kus gänge on mitmekümnetuhade liikmelisi,
ja terveid tänavaosi,
ja siis jamatakse tava politseinike ja prokuröridega kui samas oleks vaja sinna saata dessante ja vabakutselisi, peale maksta neile baariarved kinni, ning nad silmad lahti hoiaks, pättide hulgas, et vabandust leida, nad kahjutuks teha kui nad ebameledivalt käituvad, alustada hooramajadest ja kohtadest kus inimestele katust pakutakse,.
Muidu jääbki peale kasvama uus generatsioon veel jugemaid noorpätte kes uute ainetega igasuguse reaalsustajuta veelgi retsimaid ja targemaid skeeme väljamõtlevad,
Kui aga nähakse, et hummer ikka ukseette igakell sõidab, mitte ainulttelekas, kuskil kaugel "terrorisereid" tagaajades...
vaid eelkõige oma maa korda sunnitakse.. siis neid pätte nii naljalt peale ei kasvaks ka
suur osa filmi nmeediast ka näitab muinasjutulisi Üksik kangelas mente mille olemasolusse vähesed usuvad , neid peetakse hambahaldja tasemel olevusteks,
kuid samal ajal seda osa kui bürokaatlikult käed kinni ja kui pehemed ja lambad eri struktuuri osad.. seda usutakse meelsasti ja irvitatakse, tehakse peale ja tehakse peale palju muud ka ..
Lihtsalt selline unenägu see ühsikond, et tõesti peab deliiriumi tarvis kartulit ja suitsu tarbima, et beladonna nõiakunst kõrvadevahel hästi toimiks ja maailma pilti , "paratamtusesse" uskuma jäädaks..
kuid reaalne on, et saata paartuhat sõdurit linnasi läbikammima kus hulkurid ülbed ja pätikambad, ja panna nad vastutust andma, elulisi küsimusi küsima ja kohe näha kes on ülbe ja kes on paha vaimuga ja tuleb korra nattipidi kaasa viia ja puhtaks pesta.
Kui sellist korda ei harrastata siis jääbi see inimkond kurjuse orjusesse ja totalitaarsesse püünisesse ja soppa millestvälja ei saa.. sest kriminaalidel raha rohkem advikaatide jaoks kellel on seaduslikult ka valetada lubatud, mis teine utoopia , et advokaate vastutusele ei võeta
ja terveid tänavaosi,
ja siis jamatakse tava politseinike ja prokuröridega kui samas oleks vaja sinna saata dessante ja vabakutselisi, peale maksta neile baariarved kinni, ning nad silmad lahti hoiaks, pättide hulgas, et vabandust leida, nad kahjutuks teha kui nad ebameledivalt käituvad, alustada hooramajadest ja kohtadest kus inimestele katust pakutakse,.
Muidu jääbki peale kasvama uus generatsioon veel jugemaid noorpätte kes uute ainetega igasuguse reaalsustajuta veelgi retsimaid ja targemaid skeeme väljamõtlevad,
Kui aga nähakse, et hummer ikka ukseette igakell sõidab, mitte ainulttelekas, kuskil kaugel "terrorisereid" tagaajades...
vaid eelkõige oma maa korda sunnitakse.. siis neid pätte nii naljalt peale ei kasvaks ka
suur osa filmi nmeediast ka näitab muinasjutulisi Üksik kangelas mente mille olemasolusse vähesed usuvad , neid peetakse hambahaldja tasemel olevusteks,
kuid samal ajal seda osa kui bürokaatlikult käed kinni ja kui pehemed ja lambad eri struktuuri osad.. seda usutakse meelsasti ja irvitatakse, tehakse peale ja tehakse peale palju muud ka ..
Lihtsalt selline unenägu see ühsikond, et tõesti peab deliiriumi tarvis kartulit ja suitsu tarbima, et beladonna nõiakunst kõrvadevahel hästi toimiks ja maailma pilti , "paratamtusesse" uskuma jäädaks..
kuid reaalne on, et saata paartuhat sõdurit linnasi läbikammima kus hulkurid ülbed ja pätikambad, ja panna nad vastutust andma, elulisi küsimusi küsima ja kohe näha kes on ülbe ja kes on paha vaimuga ja tuleb korra nattipidi kaasa viia ja puhtaks pesta.
Kui sellist korda ei harrastata siis jääbi see inimkond kurjuse orjusesse ja totalitaarsesse püünisesse ja soppa millestvälja ei saa.. sest kriminaalidel raha rohkem advikaatide jaoks kellel on seaduslikult ka valetada lubatud, mis teine utoopia , et advokaate vastutusele ei võeta
27 March 2018 08:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid yeah.. eelkõige nagu kogu see utoopia, et Gaasiga ei või tappa v mürgiga, aga autoalla võib ajada, siis normaalne või südameatakke tekitada , kiir-ajukasvajaid jms ... nu see nii hale ajukiiks ühiskonnal, et kohe ..
Lihtsalt pole kunagi arusaanud "Lubatud tapmise moodustest" selliste struktuuride poolt kes alatud mitmes muus vallas ja nõus sõdureid peale saatma mis iganes kohtadesse kuhu ideoloogiliselt parasjägu vaja, olgugi, et enamasti sinna kuhu vaja... kuid kahtlaselt vähe sinna kuhu EELKÕIGE vaja, nagu ehk võtaks sõjaväe, ja likvideeriks alustuseks PÄRIS teadaolevad kriminaalid ja jõudud, reaalsed mafiossid jms
Ääretult võimatu on, et sise ja välisluurel ning maamehe tarkusel koos poleks piisavalt tõendeid teadmaks, kes on KINDLALT kuritegeliku tegevustega, ja neile niisama tasuks juba kööki sisse murda kaameratega aegajalt, et arusaama panna, kus on võim ja patu koerakoht.
Lihtsalt pole kunagi arusaanud "Lubatud tapmise moodustest" selliste struktuuride poolt kes alatud mitmes muus vallas ja nõus sõdureid peale saatma mis iganes kohtadesse kuhu ideoloogiliselt parasjägu vaja, olgugi, et enamasti sinna kuhu vaja... kuid kahtlaselt vähe sinna kuhu EELKÕIGE vaja, nagu ehk võtaks sõjaväe, ja likvideeriks alustuseks PÄRIS teadaolevad kriminaalid ja jõudud, reaalsed mafiossid jms
Ääretult võimatu on, et sise ja välisluurel ning maamehe tarkusel koos poleks piisavalt tõendeid teadmaks, kes on KINDLALT kuritegeliku tegevustega, ja neile niisama tasuks juba kööki sisse murda kaameratega aegajalt, et arusaama panna, kus on võim ja patu koerakoht.
27 March 2018 08:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu ja mis venemaase puutub, siis jube narr ... kui ta vastutasuks 50 iga inimese kohta välja eip saadaks..
Kuigi, eks see teisipidi vaadatuna saabki olla ametlik Riigi puhastuse plaan, teades, nööre tõmmates kuidas keegi käitub ja lubatud käituda, kokkulepitult, siis osad riigid saadavad välja neid kes arvestatud, ja vaadatakse kes nendest kes Mängus pole sellega kaasa lähevad ja mis tasemel, ...ja mida rohkem lähevad seda parem, kui ei lähe on ka teisimoodi parem,
mõlemaljuhul on võit, ühes osas saab välja saata venemaalt neid keda muidu ei saaks, teises osas saab näidata, et ikka represeeritu kallal on üksikuid julgeid kaitsjaid ka.
Kuigi, eks see teisipidi vaadatuna saabki olla ametlik Riigi puhastuse plaan, teades, nööre tõmmates kuidas keegi käitub ja lubatud käituda, kokkulepitult, siis osad riigid saadavad välja neid kes arvestatud, ja vaadatakse kes nendest kes Mängus pole sellega kaasa lähevad ja mis tasemel, ...ja mida rohkem lähevad seda parem, kui ei lähe on ka teisimoodi parem,
mõlemaljuhul on võit, ühes osas saab välja saata venemaalt neid keda muidu ei saaks, teises osas saab näidata, et ikka represeeritu kallal on üksikuid julgeid kaitsjaid ka.
27 March 2018 08:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Niih.. veel suts kuni liinid lahti siis saab helistada
27 March 2018 07:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi jah, nalja peaks pigem ühiskonnas selleüle viskama, et kuidas Eesti pinnal nii ebaeestlaslikke käitumisi lubatud, endal ID kaart olemas,
kuid eks see kataloog ebaeestlaslikusest veel tuleb, tolle sees on nipsakusest kuni mühakluseni jaa ERITI ebaaususest lipsudeni...
kuid eks see kataloog ebaeestlaslikusest veel tuleb, tolle sees on nipsakusest kuni mühakluseni jaa ERITI ebaaususest lipsudeni...
27 March 2018 07:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm3T6QkdyW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm3T6QkdyW4
27 March 2018 07:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ0-yBJLMBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ0-yBJLMBE
27 March 2018 07:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTJ0x2uMG2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTJ0x2uMG2Q
27 March 2018 07:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T31jLpHe1oY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T31jLpHe1oY
27 March 2018 07:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuigi, see pole otseselt iroonia kuid sobib ikkagi, sest alaarenguid on mitmesuguseid
// Eesti muideks on matriarhaalne olnud oma olemuse algusest, ja on normaal majapidamises olnud ammu meil nii asju mis sobib ühele v teisele rohkem ja tubasi mis loodud ainult naistele või meestele, et reaalsus säiliks ja austus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzK9aYQIYu8
// Eesti muideks on matriarhaalne olnud oma olemuse algusest, ja on normaal majapidamises olnud ammu meil nii asju mis sobib ühele v teisele rohkem ja tubasi mis loodud ainult naistele või meestele, et reaalsus säiliks ja austus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzK9aYQIYu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzK9aYQIYu8
27 March 2018 07:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
27 March 2018 06:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
27 March 2018 06:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
27 March 2018 06:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
igaksjuhuks muud pärlid ka, osad sellised, et panevad mitte oma positiivsuse, vaid inimeste mitmekesiseuse osas näo naerule, eks näis kas see teooria peab paika, et üld suures osas meil 8 st sorti Eestlasi olemas
ossid-taunid, kuldsetekätega-maamehed, linnamehed-lipsud, muidumehed-ampelmannid, habetargad-müstikud ja keskmised Eestlased,
lisaks veel palju sissetulnuid ja punasied jms uuemaja tooteid kuid need algpühimaterialid
kuid seda selgitada suures plaanis vist veel eip saa miksnii,
Ma ise olen
ossid-taunid, kuldsetekätega-maamehed, linnamehed-lipsud, muidumehed-ampelmannid, habetargad-müstikud ja keskmised Eestlased,
lisaks veel palju sissetulnuid ja punasied jms uuemaja tooteid kuid need algpühimaterialid
kuid seda selgitada suures plaanis vist veel eip saa miksnii,
Ma ise olen
27 March 2018 06:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
27 March 2018 06:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
27 March 2018 06:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sellise org tekitamise osas real life juba aastaid tagasi rääkinud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trp14B9OmDI
koos väikeste lisadega
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trp14B9OmDI
koos väikeste lisadega
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trp14B9OmDI
27 March 2018 06:26
Margus Meigo replied to Kuldar Lepp's comment.
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Jõuab veel!27 March 2018 05:48
Margus Meigo replied to Mare Imral's comment.
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Nu igasugune sõnumi edastus on ikka kasuks ju, sest kui oluline inimene midagi olulistele inimestele ütleb ja sellest saab avalikku tasuta jagamist see pani kindlasti kasutajaliikmeid rohkem juurde tulema.
Seega peaksime ka, ainult ütlema, seda mis südamel ja iialgi, ma pole veel muretsenud sellise asja pärast,et ükski mu email või sõnum avalikuks saaks, pigem on meil mõtekas sellekallal tööd teha, et KUIDAS saaks, sest tagurpidi psühholoogiaga, nad proovivatki inimesi suunata varjule ja sõnumeid ning reaalseid mõttevahetusi peita,
Et siis ühte ja sama välismeedia või glamuur-uudistega enamasti meediaaknad täita,
Kõike selliseid asju tuleb tugevalt enda kasuks kasutada, samas võib täiesti ka tervitava heatahtliku sõnumi ka Laarile saata, et ega ei tasu nii pehmod nüüd ka olla, palju jubedam on kui ilusalt ja korrektselt absoluutset valet lubatakse rääkida ja seda suht vähe rünnatakse sest 10 uut vale juba peale jõuab tulla.
Point on, et igaüks oma sõnadeeest võtku vastutus, ja ei ole vaja eeldada, et ütleja polnud läbimõelnud mida ütles ega ka seda, et öeldu nii pehmo on, et teda veel pehmomaks vaja teha sellise pääste kampaaniaga on vaja.
Mõistlikus meedias oleks lihtsalt Mart Laar Saanud ise esimesena vastata kui see teda puudutas ja Monika Helme sinna omakorda ja siis igast arvamusliidrid sinna otsa. Kuid ennekõike oleks siis saanud selgeks, kas keegi üldse ennast solvatuna tundus olema.
See umbes nagu igast õiguste eest seismised kus need kelle eest seistakse vahest ei vaja ega ei soovigi, et keegi nende eest seisaks, kuid eks paberid vajavad täitmist ning see mõte miks neid asju tehakse on ka suts midagi muud kui arukaid vestlusi esile tuua.
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Kindlasti on väga vale alluda rünnakutele ja oma nö "jäljed kustutada" sest sedasi harjutatakse inimesi ise taanduma ja peituma oma sõnavabaduse eest ning jätab mulje nagu oldi eksinud.27 March 2018 05:48
Margus Meigo commented on Mare Imral's post.
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Imeli, ma alguses nägin et, See sonum kellegi teise edastatud oli mida Sa Monika edastasid,
Kuid kui asja paremaks soovida teha,siis võid öelda, et sa mõtlesid füüsilise puude asemel midagi muud.27 March 2018 05:36
Margus Meigo commented on Monika Helme's post.
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Pole ju eriti keeruline teha avalikke andmepanku iga ala inimestest kes oma maad ja metsa välismaalastele müünud või kes ise lihtsalt puitu milleks iganes, kuhu iganes, rahaks maha saaginud.
Kunagi neid nimesi veel tarvis..27 March 2018 05:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid mina ise satun suurema ja hullemate versioonide tulnukanaiste kätte mustastmaagiast kuni muidu psühhopaatideni , see lihtsalt ajaküsimus, kui keegi just ajast ette kuidagi eip saa...
keegi siit listist :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_girl_movies
http://www.indiewire.com/2013/06/girls-gone-bad-20-lethal-girl-gang-movies-97013/
https://reelrundown.com/movies/3-Movies-with-Manipulative-and-Evil-Female-Villains
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls002606583/
Ja arvestades, et igakorra hullemad versioonid , arvestades kui ulme viimanekord oli tolllega kes enamuse aja surnutega suhtles jms,
tehes selliseid trikke ja manipulatiivseid ja häbistavaid rünnakuid, mida rakse maha pesta... kuni eluohtlikute olukordadeni
siis ... siis siit palju samme polegi jäänud mis peale seda tulla saab
keegi siit listist :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_girl_movies
http://www.indiewire.com/2013/06/girls-gone-bad-20-lethal-girl-gang-movies-97013/
https://reelrundown.com/movies/3-Movies-with-Manipulative-and-Evil-Female-Villains
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls002606583/
Ja arvestades, et igakorra hullemad versioonid , arvestades kui ulme viimanekord oli tolllega kes enamuse aja surnutega suhtles jms,
tehes selliseid trikke ja manipulatiivseid ja häbistavaid rünnakuid, mida rakse maha pesta... kuni eluohtlikute olukordadeni
siis ... siis siit palju samme polegi jäänud mis peale seda tulla saab
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_girl_movies
26 March 2018 23:37
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Ei ole nii ega naa
On öelaid tüdrukuid ja surmani lahkeid vanamemmesi
On öelaid tüdrukuid ja surmani lahkeid vanamemmesi
26 March 2018 22:57
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26 March 2018 21:31
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26 March 2018 21:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Rokafellerite & Rothsildidega koos loomalaudas hängida juba oleks miski!
26 March 2018 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And epic Giants before this times
26 March 2018 18:32
Margus Meigo replied to Maarja Hiiekivi's comment.
eks enamus billionid ole mustad
26 March 2018 18:31
Margus Meigo replied to Margus Kiis's comment.
Türilt Tallinna on 6.50 ,
Kuid selge on see, et see maa meil normaalseks, korda ega vabaks ei saa KUNAGI saama ega hädadest lahti, kui jäääme linna jõlkuma ja sinna elama ka veel.
Pea kõik tööd mis arvutiga tehtavad saab teha kodust, vajalikude paberite tarvis saab olla linna skännerdamise töökoht kes sännib documendid ja edastab vajaliku inimese meilile.
kuigi jah eks see peaegu topelt töö ole.
Suurem osa töökohti tundub olema selised, mis inimloomust ega ühiskonda ei arenda ega ei edenda vaid iseeenda tekitatud vajadusi täidab. Aka kohviChopis müüa või kaubamaja turvamees,
Suurem osa Eesti mehi peaks puutööga tegelema ja naised riide tööga, mõlemad omakorda veel inteletuaalse tööga kirjanduse tõlkimisest, arendamisest kuni üksteiste kiheldondade vahelise oskuste vahendamiseni.
Kuid eks kuidas sinnamaani saada ,,, egas ta nüüd nii raske ka pole...
Kuid muidugi meie käsitöö, mis endale teeme peab olema mõistliku hinnaga ja mis välismaailmale see väga kalli hinnaga,
toidu mis kasvatame endale peaks olema pool tasuta ja mis välismaale, üle kesmise hinnna kõvasti,
Kasvatades lisasest kuni naeriseni saaksime nii endale toidu kui välismaale müügiks piisavalt,
igast jama tuleks podidest kaotada, rahvast harida neid mitte ostma, alkoholist lahti saada, puskariajamine võiks muidugi legaalne olla , tubakat las inimmesed kasvatavad ise mitte ei osteta sisse filtritega haigusi endale neid rõõmsalt maksustades...
Mul tegelikult oli üks hea arengu ja töö sükkel väljamõeldud ainuüksi kaiseväe paraleel struktuuri läbi mis kõlaks sutsu nagu sotsalistlik utoopia kuid tegelilkult suht vanapärane ja õiglane,
Eestlased nii targad, me saaksime igasuguste krija ja tõlketöödega, mis meid endeid arendab, piisavalt raha üle maailma kokku ajada arvutie läbi
Kuid selge on see, et see maa meil normaalseks, korda ega vabaks ei saa KUNAGI saama ega hädadest lahti, kui jäääme linna jõlkuma ja sinna elama ka veel.
Pea kõik tööd mis arvutiga tehtavad saab teha kodust, vajalikude paberite tarvis saab olla linna skännerdamise töökoht kes sännib documendid ja edastab vajaliku inimese meilile.
kuigi jah eks see peaegu topelt töö ole.
Suurem osa töökohti tundub olema selised, mis inimloomust ega ühiskonda ei arenda ega ei edenda vaid iseeenda tekitatud vajadusi täidab. Aka kohviChopis müüa või kaubamaja turvamees,
Suurem osa Eesti mehi peaks puutööga tegelema ja naised riide tööga, mõlemad omakorda veel inteletuaalse tööga kirjanduse tõlkimisest, arendamisest kuni üksteiste kiheldondade vahelise oskuste vahendamiseni.
Kuid eks kuidas sinnamaani saada ,,, egas ta nüüd nii raske ka pole...
Kuid muidugi meie käsitöö, mis endale teeme peab olema mõistliku hinnaga ja mis välismaailmale see väga kalli hinnaga,
toidu mis kasvatame endale peaks olema pool tasuta ja mis välismaale, üle kesmise hinnna kõvasti,
Kasvatades lisasest kuni naeriseni saaksime nii endale toidu kui välismaale müügiks piisavalt,
igast jama tuleks podidest kaotada, rahvast harida neid mitte ostma, alkoholist lahti saada, puskariajamine võiks muidugi legaalne olla , tubakat las inimmesed kasvatavad ise mitte ei osteta sisse filtritega haigusi endale neid rõõmsalt maksustades...
Mul tegelikult oli üks hea arengu ja töö sükkel väljamõeldud ainuüksi kaiseväe paraleel struktuuri läbi mis kõlaks sutsu nagu sotsalistlik utoopia kuid tegelilkult suht vanapärane ja õiglane,
Eestlased nii targad, me saaksime igasuguste krija ja tõlketöödega, mis meid endeid arendab, piisavalt raha üle maailma kokku ajada arvutie läbi
26 March 2018 12:12
Margus Meigo replied to Margus Kiis's comment.
Tervislikum nii tervisele kui mõistusele
26 March 2018 10:21
Margus Meigo replied to Margus Kiis's comment.
kuigi, täeisti mõistlik oleks maal elades pigem peale maksta, ainuüksi sellepärast, et saad elada nagu kuningas ja saad elada Elu keskel
26 March 2018 10:21
Margus Meigo replied to Margus Kiis's comment.
ei ole see mingi suur osa
ja mis siis nagu kogu elu tööd on linnas või ?
Mis arengupeetus peab ühiskonnal olema, kui neid täid saab teha ainult linnas mida arvatakse, et teha saab ainult linnas.
Kui rohkem inimesi maal oleks siis suurem osa töid oleks maal juba iseenesest, loogiliselt, alguses tuleb lihtsalt takka sundida ideoloogiaga kõvasti laiatades,
Vaevalt, et see nüüd nii meeletu oleks
--
"Keskmine autojuht kasutab Eestis ära 239,86 liitrit bensiini aastas, millele kulub 1,68 protsenti keskmisest palgast."
Kui elada 100 kilomeetri kaugusel linnast, siis umbes 10 eurot päevas edasitagasi eks... ja kui reaalselt maal elada, siis võetakse ikka toit ka kodust kaasa ja ma usun, et linnas elades ikka toidule-kohvile-lõbustustele kulub pea rohkem kui 10 eurot keskmiselt päevas suurel osal kui NV & kinod mis iganes linna eluga aasta peale kokku sisse arvestada.
Kuid eelkõige, tuleks arvestada siis ÜÜR ja KOMMUNAALID ...
nu ja kui plussid ja miinused kokkku lüüa, siis kindlasti, enamustel inimestel tuleks isegi linnas tööl käies, maal elades tunduvalt odavam
ja mis siis nagu kogu elu tööd on linnas või ?
Mis arengupeetus peab ühiskonnal olema, kui neid täid saab teha ainult linnas mida arvatakse, et teha saab ainult linnas.
Kui rohkem inimesi maal oleks siis suurem osa töid oleks maal juba iseenesest, loogiliselt, alguses tuleb lihtsalt takka sundida ideoloogiaga kõvasti laiatades,
Vaevalt, et see nüüd nii meeletu oleks
--
"Keskmine autojuht kasutab Eestis ära 239,86 liitrit bensiini aastas, millele kulub 1,68 protsenti keskmisest palgast."
Kui elada 100 kilomeetri kaugusel linnast, siis umbes 10 eurot päevas edasitagasi eks... ja kui reaalselt maal elada, siis võetakse ikka toit ka kodust kaasa ja ma usun, et linnas elades ikka toidule-kohvile-lõbustustele kulub pea rohkem kui 10 eurot keskmiselt päevas suurel osal kui NV & kinod mis iganes linna eluga aasta peale kokku sisse arvestada.
Kuid eelkõige, tuleks arvestada siis ÜÜR ja KOMMUNAALID ...
nu ja kui plussid ja miinused kokkku lüüa, siis kindlasti, enamustel inimestel tuleks isegi linnas tööl käies, maal elades tunduvalt odavam
26 March 2018 10:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
NU tõepooolest, ei saa aru "vorpida" ja "toodavad" (seadusega keelsutada ei saa sellist solvangut, nii kirjutada?) :
"On küll olemas noore spetsialisti KredExi käendus, kuid ka selleks on vajalik viieprotsendiline sissemakse. Keskmine kolmetoaline korter Harjumaal jääb 100 000 euro kanti, mis tähendab 5000-eurost omapoolset panust, pluss notaritasu, pluss mööbel, pluss tehnika…
Muidugi on alati võimalik elada koos vanematega ja seda paljud noored pered ka teevad. Huvitav, miks? Seetõttu ongi mul valida, kas koguda raha ja soetada endale kodu, luua pere alustamiseks soodne keskkond ning saada vanemas eas üks laps, või hakata vanemapalga «soodsates» tingimustes ja suurema lapsetoetuse ootuses Eestile kodanikke vorpima. Pole raske arvata, kumma kasuks otsustan.
Aitab sellest ajupesust. Tahate lapsi, toetage noori, kes neid teile toodavad!"
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Artikli lõpp.
Postimehest.
// Muide, oli raske arvata küll, kumma valida kui Sind arvestada... sest sellises normaalses olukorras ma lihtsalt ei kujutaks ette, et 100 000 keegi võlgu võtab selleks, iseendale, korterijaoks, selleasemel, et sellega endale ja emale maale maja soetada, kaks maja saaks vabalt ja siis edais vaadata kuidas hakkama saab ja loota, et peale 25 aastast laenumaksmist, on järglastel juba nutti ja raha tekkinud et omakorda uus katus peale osta ja otsida, 25 aastaga peaks suutma "vorpida" küll lapsi kes juba õigesti kasvatades peaks olema suuteline tegema seda, mis vanasti majad katuselaenudeta üleval hoidisd,
"On küll olemas noore spetsialisti KredExi käendus, kuid ka selleks on vajalik viieprotsendiline sissemakse. Keskmine kolmetoaline korter Harjumaal jääb 100 000 euro kanti, mis tähendab 5000-eurost omapoolset panust, pluss notaritasu, pluss mööbel, pluss tehnika…
Muidugi on alati võimalik elada koos vanematega ja seda paljud noored pered ka teevad. Huvitav, miks? Seetõttu ongi mul valida, kas koguda raha ja soetada endale kodu, luua pere alustamiseks soodne keskkond ning saada vanemas eas üks laps, või hakata vanemapalga «soodsates» tingimustes ja suurema lapsetoetuse ootuses Eestile kodanikke vorpima. Pole raske arvata, kumma kasuks otsustan.
Aitab sellest ajupesust. Tahate lapsi, toetage noori, kes neid teile toodavad!"
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Artikli lõpp.
Postimehest.
// Muide, oli raske arvata küll, kumma valida kui Sind arvestada... sest sellises normaalses olukorras ma lihtsalt ei kujutaks ette, et 100 000 keegi võlgu võtab selleks, iseendale, korterijaoks, selleasemel, et sellega endale ja emale maale maja soetada, kaks maja saaks vabalt ja siis edais vaadata kuidas hakkama saab ja loota, et peale 25 aastast laenumaksmist, on järglastel juba nutti ja raha tekkinud et omakorda uus katus peale osta ja otsida, 25 aastaga peaks suutma "vorpida" küll lapsi kes juba õigesti kasvatades peaks olema suuteline tegema seda, mis vanasti majad katuselaenudeta üleval hoidisd,
26 March 2018 07:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
who knows, maybe istuation wil become bette,r i mena worst..
ut will try to make our betrment first
ut will try to make our betrment first
26 March 2018 07:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i bet when You google "russian reporter dead "
whitout quatationamrks, you will get more results in various names and news from seperate cases in past 10 years,
and can you imagine how many news there would be if the number that need to go, from reporters would be over 20 000 i.. and you think with all the money and ability to hire even USA own Ops with bitocoin to do anything. you would think NK if it realy would be even half as bad as we make to belive would they not find and make mainham and drama around the world by hiring any kind of troublemakers who are millons for hire and amazing amount of organizations who give out and access nearly any kind of info for right amount of money that is easy to make connection by proxy lands
whitout quatationamrks, you will get more results in various names and news from seperate cases in past 10 years,
and can you imagine how many news there would be if the number that need to go, from reporters would be over 20 000 i.. and you think with all the money and ability to hire even USA own Ops with bitocoin to do anything. you would think NK if it realy would be even half as bad as we make to belive would they not find and make mainham and drama around the world by hiring any kind of troublemakers who are millons for hire and amazing amount of organizations who give out and access nearly any kind of info for right amount of money that is easy to make connection by proxy lands
26 March 2018 07:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Point is that this thing does not make sense
26 March 2018 07:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
26 March 2018 07:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
26 March 2018 07:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i am not kidding You ,same time the yrelease news liek that:
"The shooting is the first major violence in the area for more than THREE decades.
Guarded by mines, barbed wire fences, tank traps and combat troops on both sides, the Demilitarised Zone is the world's most heavily fortified border.
In 1984, three North Korean soldiers and one South Korean soldier were killed when a Soviet citizen defected to the South and shots were fired across the border."
https://news.sky.com/story/defecting-north-korean-soldier-shot-five-times-as-he-runs-towards-south-11138338
"The shooting is the first major violence in the area for more than THREE decades.
Guarded by mines, barbed wire fences, tank traps and combat troops on both sides, the Demilitarised Zone is the world's most heavily fortified border.
In 1984, three North Korean soldiers and one South Korean soldier were killed when a Soviet citizen defected to the South and shots were fired across the border."
https://news.sky.com/story/defecting-north-korean-soldier-shot-five-times-as-he-runs-towards-south-11138338
https://news.sky.com/story/defecting-north-korean-soldier-shot-five-times-as-he-runs-towards-south-11138338
26 March 2018 07:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
järgmine laul mida kohe ei leia kiiresti olemasolevast internetist, vaat kui vaene see internet on,
mingid lood pikalt ammu raadios, mida googles ega audios netis pole ?
Saate aru selle asja ohtlikusest kui nii edasi läheb?
mingid lood pikalt ammu raadios, mida googles ega audios netis pole ?
Saate aru selle asja ohtlikusest kui nii edasi läheb?
26 March 2018 06:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
+ "suur ning uhke tulevik" laul
26 March 2018 06:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
software many layers are ppossible to implement in small relvolutuins,, to of current frameworks, nearly completly all without any braking of licenses or agreements for what software can be used
26 March 2018 06:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so it is blessing, even if it would be so, that they are so smart that have ben able to keep most peole avay from internet, as long it becomes more ready: the software and intenret it self, in more moature format
26 March 2018 06:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
am still waiting anyone to sponsor my 1500 euro trip to get there, and to see it my self, if that is true, what NK travel agency told me, that they do not have human right in 5G or any other usable internet format as in Estonia and how can we help, it to become, in a way that normal internet would arrise,
well for me no issue to make platform for that and get milllions of pages working in NK with nearly None of the propbelm that is in most of the internet trafic used according to statistics and computer measurments,
If we lucky, Estonia, North Korea can be one among the first country in world who will start to use internet wisely as needed as humans are grown up spiritually besides proper network in place that every country can tune accoridng to their needs and global advicsors help provided by volenteers and payd professionals
well for me no issue to make platform for that and get milllions of pages working in NK with nearly None of the propbelm that is in most of the internet trafic used according to statistics and computer measurments,
If we lucky, Estonia, North Korea can be one among the first country in world who will start to use internet wisely as needed as humans are grown up spiritually besides proper network in place that every country can tune accoridng to their needs and global advicsors help provided by volenteers and payd professionals
26 March 2018 06:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
oh, and about the NK story:
(( thousands of defectors every year, and we hear story from ..how many.. like ..are they really telling the thruth for real, how many do we know to be in peples eyes who local, the real people them self? ))
// in fact seems to me long time ago, NK to be the one, who is under threat and Captured with whole world threat Not they against the world but world against them with Orders in reason to make them look so,
this would be nothing suprising compared to the schemes that history has done with people in various scales before, talking about one or another side, in scales for years that for sure, all 2 can not be only tru same time. or none at all, at times
(( thousands of defectors every year, and we hear story from ..how many.. like ..are they really telling the thruth for real, how many do we know to be in peples eyes who local, the real people them self? ))
// in fact seems to me long time ago, NK to be the one, who is under threat and Captured with whole world threat Not they against the world but world against them with Orders in reason to make them look so,
this would be nothing suprising compared to the schemes that history has done with people in various scales before, talking about one or another side, in scales for years that for sure, all 2 can not be only tru same time. or none at all, at times
26 March 2018 06:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
only Question reminds, why don't they
26 March 2018 06:03
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Zta's comment.
You wanna guy Drink for me?
26 March 2018 05:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
asjakohane
26 March 2018 05:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hea meeldetuletus Taavilt:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214383458437036
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214383458437036
26 March 2018 05:44
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Zta's comment.
Like:
"Hmm.. "
"Hmm.. "
26 March 2018 05:44
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Zta's comment.
True that, Thanks : )
I mean, how in all that, so correct one in random : ))
I mean, how in all that, so correct one in random : ))
26 March 2018 05:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sa Lele ka mõistad öösel tööd teha :p
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10214598918143394&set=p.10214598918143394&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10214598918143394&set=p.10214598918143394&type=3&theater
26 March 2018 05:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(14 or so, so far, in last few hndred years, these just the ones that was able to land here not the ones that was grown to be attempted to reach ehre eventually, of what a lot of them was deleted before reaching in to this physicla world even., )
26 March 2018 05:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
meie maa kasukas
26 March 2018 05:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
before invasion is needed to clean air from these, so time can not be accessed and returned around in way'äs that "swamp" will stay in complete without delition
even in complete domination will stil lshake off these forces as fleees
even in complete domination will stil lshake off these forces as fleees
26 March 2018 05:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
let's hope this story was a BS related to somoene psreading in here, among other country, but in here specially something in air that spesifically was in most cases targeted against fly ageryc,
if osmeone understands this mushrooms then they know this is MORE then rational thought
if osmeone understands this mushrooms then they know this is MORE then rational thought
26 March 2018 05:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Not some "ole-ole Wach the moonlight" kind of fame
But revolutionary times and potential situation that was turned abround with many local tools and western tools that Estonians got their hands on, around the world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EocC7FK_zg
But revolutionary times and potential situation that was turned abround with many local tools and western tools that Estonians got their hands on, around the world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EocC7FK_zg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EocC7FK_zg
26 March 2018 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
26 March 2018 04:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// i am not kidding you this is like the most high level poetic largest level of old time rock metal legend, absolute legend among many intellectuals about rock, who is in 50's+ now, so who are actual authority knowing aboutproper rock and intellectual rock ,
So .. the T shirts .. & looks , calms, "ossi" looks.. can You imagine, to be Top, kind of liek ACDC / LedZeppelin & Jimmy Hendric como with royal-poetic middleages intellectual tone... and then looking so:
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//wanted to add Shaikspaire but he is not sharp intellectualy enought so keepet it Middleage, some intllectual surelly know, what should am add here to coplete the linear sircle of description about the irony of the Singer Vinger depth
So .. the T shirts .. & looks , calms, "ossi" looks.. can You imagine, to be Top, kind of liek ACDC / LedZeppelin & Jimmy Hendric como with royal-poetic middleages intellectual tone... and then looking so:
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//wanted to add Shaikspaire but he is not sharp intellectualy enought so keepet it Middleage, some intllectual surelly know, what should am add here to coplete the linear sircle of description about the irony of the Singer Vinger depth
26 March 2018 04:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
From:
copyright will go anyway(4sure), only right that is worth to keep is birthright
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214598652696758
copyright will go anyway(4sure), only right that is worth to keep is birthright
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214598652696758
26 March 2018 04:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
From:
copyright will go anyway(4sure), only right we need to protect is birthright
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214598648056642
copyright will go anyway(4sure), only right we need to protect is birthright
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214598648056642
26 March 2018 04:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
copyright will go anyway(4sure), only right we need to protect is birthright
26 March 2018 04:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
anyway
26 March 2018 04:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//relationship instructions for #WorldRepairers #TikkunOlam #TikkumOlam when the N version was copyrighted by some jew
26 March 2018 04:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid yea notthe music i wanted to tlak about..
but the yes, the my workings, is also, important way to spend time, is to lissten togheder songs, important work part... that can be imagined how furtful can it sound, to be... if someonens was able to tell
that.. soethingthat made you undestand one of two was not tuned in in importance of it all to trip in it and same time use from it for good, for needed work what is needed...
if lissens rock then what can be releated for this.. and when working onsecurity, then think how this can be used to encristsh message of security or
but the yes, the my workings, is also, important way to spend time, is to lissten togheder songs, important work part... that can be imagined how furtful can it sound, to be... if someonens was able to tell
that.. soethingthat made you undestand one of two was not tuned in in importance of it all to trip in it and same time use from it for good, for needed work what is needed...
if lissens rock then what can be releated for this.. and when working onsecurity, then think how this can be used to encristsh message of security or
26 March 2018 04:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sometimes i even got hopes, that can be in contact with the ones who can understand my surroundings,
26 March 2018 04:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thank You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUp9c2JoQFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUp9c2JoQFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUp9c2JoQFs
26 March 2018 04:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Another hardest, top level metal, and heavy metal man, in coparable fame and richness on these times that would but one in hard to reach heights for most world bands
// and how to we see, the someones promote them self? Yes, we can imitate Your Graizines mostly with some betterment... but we try to Show You also, how can be, while bening what you want, respect stay normal
// and how to we see, the someones promote them self? Yes, we can imitate Your Graizines mostly with some betterment... but we try to Show You also, how can be, while bening what you want, respect stay normal
26 March 2018 04:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
26 March 2018 04:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Here is absolute one of the history greatest Rock and Heavy melodic metal and hard raw meaningfulmetal legend and first Greatest one ... and You can not see well, but people sit there more calmly even as the Ska Factor, they sit there as in movie theater,
Only few camera man You can see mooving their hands taking pictures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPMUFCDSEe4
Only few camera man You can see mooving their hands taking pictures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPMUFCDSEe4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPMUFCDSEe4
26 March 2018 03:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
26 March 2018 03:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You know like nii:
(in and consertthat is comparable to cross between softer version of cyprosHill & Sum 41 with some intelligent funk & in direction of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KQmps-Sog But not as much as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIZdjT1472Y in intelectual levels ... Okey... in Human:Human ..who knows, have not teake them sauna but just what they dared to put in lyrics in whole sircle... but just the poiint was that how people turn their head away to much when the yget in to rocking ..Nowdays.. while the oneswho wanna tune in... is less popular in Open Media.. but we can chnage this by promoting, normal behaviour )
in highest level excitement included
okey, Green Day would have been even nearer, to bringing paralel, with 1/4 th, some with some new age hyper popular band as (can not name it now.. but it is so popuar it is used as insult at times for ....)
But ehy they so angry when they play , the Green Day
(in and consertthat is comparable to cross between softer version of cyprosHill & Sum 41 with some intelligent funk & in direction of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KQmps-Sog But not as much as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIZdjT1472Y in intelectual levels ... Okey... in Human:Human ..who knows, have not teake them sauna but just what they dared to put in lyrics in whole sircle... but just the poiint was that how people turn their head away to much when the yget in to rocking ..Nowdays.. while the oneswho wanna tune in... is less popular in Open Media.. but we can chnage this by promoting, normal behaviour )
in highest level excitement included
okey, Green Day would have been even nearer, to bringing paralel, with 1/4 th, some with some new age hyper popular band as (can not name it now.. but it is so popuar it is used as insult at times for ....)
But ehy they so angry when they play , the Green Day
26 March 2018 03:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid need tasemed dimensiooonides mis rakenduvad teadvuslikult siis kui eeltöösi mitu muuilma jägu käiku on saadud panna enne..
26 March 2018 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid yeah, see on mu elementaarne misioon,
sedasi hakkama saada, et need kes ennast vastaseks peavad, ka rahul olema saaksid
kuidas halbade hulgas halvad head tegema panema selliselt, et nad ise arusaavad, et nad sellepärast miskit tasu ega tunnustust ei saa ega paremat positsiooni kohtades kuhu nad ei pruugi saada, kuid kes teeksid seda sellepärast, head, halvana, halbade hulgas, sellepärast, et see on parem
sedasi hakkama saada, et need kes ennast vastaseks peavad, ka rahul olema saaksid
kuidas halbade hulgas halvad head tegema panema selliselt, et nad ise arusaavad, et nad sellepärast miskit tasu ega tunnustust ei saa ega paremat positsiooni kohtades kuhu nad ei pruugi saada, kuid kes teeksid seda sellepärast, head, halvana, halbade hulgas, sellepärast, et see on parem
26 March 2018 02:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
need kes eriti kahtlased, neid ikka seljataha eip usaldaks, ikka silmanurgast peaks nägema ju.. :P
26 March 2018 02:50
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
THink outside the box,
austusest kükita, siis tagumik ei tõuse kui pead kummarda...ja vali seljataguseks need, kes nii armastavad, et on rahul sellega, et õiges suunas Jumalapoole kummardud
austusest kükita, siis tagumik ei tõuse kui pead kummarda...ja vali seljataguseks need, kes nii armastavad, et on rahul sellega, et õiges suunas Jumalapoole kummardud
26 March 2018 02:49
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
vata selle lollusega kaasa eip lähe:D
26 March 2018 02:47
Margus Meigo replied to Veiko Lukmann's comment.
Eestlaste puhul saab alati öelda; me heasüdamlikult mängisime lipsu kaasa, et teised järgijõuaks ja mitte ülearu meeltebarjääre tekitada.
Hoolimisest , suuremeelsusest. Varjulolemiseni kuni enamus ühiskond me esiliinist maailma kultuuriajaloos on valmis teadasaama, mitte, et me päris aega nüüd maakalendri järgi aastale 10 231 keerama veel globaalselt hakkaks, kuid meie märgistus "Est."(established) on küll edukalt juba üle maa viisakalt sisestatud, väike müstilisus, müütilisus, omapära, iidjuured pole kunagi Luure olemusele üleliia olnud, eriti veel nii olulisel maal millele me oma riigi rajanud! ; ))
// Eesti - Ees, esimesena ja teiste Eest, ikka, Suurevennalikult, heasüdamlikult. Enne aega, Siiralt hea meel, et hea olemusega inimesed meie olemust maailma olulisematesse struktuuridesse sümpaatselt integreerivad
Hoolimisest , suuremeelsusest. Varjulolemiseni kuni enamus ühiskond me esiliinist maailma kultuuriajaloos on valmis teadasaama, mitte, et me päris aega nüüd maakalendri järgi aastale 10 231 keerama veel globaalselt hakkaks, kuid meie märgistus "Est."(established) on küll edukalt juba üle maa viisakalt sisestatud, väike müstilisus, müütilisus, omapära, iidjuured pole kunagi Luure olemusele üleliia olnud, eriti veel nii olulisel maal millele me oma riigi rajanud! ; ))
// Eesti - Ees, esimesena ja teiste Eest, ikka, Suurevennalikult, heasüdamlikult. Enne aega, Siiralt hea meel, et hea olemusega inimesed meie olemust maailma olulisematesse struktuuridesse sümpaatselt integreerivad
25 March 2018 23:55
Margus Meigo replied to Veiko Lukmann's comment.
Vormide osas vaat sisemuses ikka igatses, et vaat kui kena oleks, kui me ideoloogiliselt meelega teistsuguse rõivastusega kõrgematel kohtadel ja hiljem kogu poliitikas oleksime.
Sellel tuleviku ajastul saab olema päris määrav kes millise stiiliga enda kultuuri olemust väljendab (nagu ka praegu oluline, natukene teistel põhjustel).
Nu päris puu-prossiga vast ei laskaks samale seinale, veel, kuid linase ja muu väärikate riietega vist ikka.
Kuid Mikk Sa nii soliidne ja meeldiv välja näed, et kaunistad DC seina nii enda tegude kui olemusega nii ehk naa
Sellel tuleviku ajastul saab olema päris määrav kes millise stiiliga enda kultuuri olemust väljendab (nagu ka praegu oluline, natukene teistel põhjustel).
Nu päris puu-prossiga vast ei laskaks samale seinale, veel, kuid linase ja muu väärikate riietega vist ikka.
Kuid Mikk Sa nii soliidne ja meeldiv välja näed, et kaunistad DC seina nii enda tegude kui olemusega nii ehk naa
25 March 2018 23:30
Margus Meigo commented on Mikk Marran's photo.
Viisakas.
Kas jätavad ehk Su pildi sinna sedasi eraldi postamendile, siis oleks juba päris viisakas :p
Kas jätavad ehk Su pildi sinna sedasi eraldi postamendile, siis oleks juba päris viisakas :p
25 March 2018 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on World Cloud's video.
So elementary,
basic,
Leftist they invented them self, their OWN tools.. why would they bother to "inflatrate" these :D:D:
But yes
basic,
Leftist they invented them self, their OWN tools.. why would they bother to "inflatrate" these :D:D:
But yes
25 March 2018 19:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://charlierose.com/videos/24533
https://charlierose.com/videos/24533
25 March 2018 06:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://charlierose.com/videos/23325
https://charlierose.com/videos/23325
25 March 2018 06:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://charlierose.com/videos/25003
https://charlierose.com/videos/25003
25 March 2018 06:46
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https://charlierose.com/videos/22854
https://charlierose.com/videos/22854
25 March 2018 06:46
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https://charlierose.com/videos/11139
https://charlierose.com/videos/11139
25 March 2018 06:45
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https://charlierose.com/videos/26872
https://charlierose.com/videos/26872
25 March 2018 06:45
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Tuesday 12/23/2014
Judith Rodin, president of the Rockefeller Foundation, discusses her book, "The Resilience Dividend," which tells stories of resilience in the face of catastrophic challenges.
https://charlierose.com/videos/23641
Ken Chenault: Good to see you. 00:00Charlie Rose: Judith Rodin is here. She has been president of the Rockefeller Foundation since 2005. Her tenure there is focused on programs that tackle the most pressing global challenges and disruptions of the 21st century. Her new book is called "The Resilience Dividend: Being strong in a world where things go wrong". It argues that building resilience is an urgent social and economic issue. I am pleased to have her back at this table. Welcome. 00:24 Judith Rodin: Thank you, Charlie. Great to be here again. 00:27Charlie Rose: I must say before the Rockefeller Fund, you were also president of the University of Pennsylvania and Yale as well. 00:33 Judith Rodin: Yes. 00:34Charlie Rose: so you've spent a lifetime in academia as well as running the Rockefeller Foundation. What's this about, "The Resilience Dividend? 00:44 Judith Rodin: It's based on the -- really the realization that in the 21st century, crises may be the new normal. There actually isn't a week that goes by that somewhere in the world there isn't a violent storm, or a flood, or a cyber attack, civil unrest, a new epidemic, outbreak like ebola. And so those who are going to do best are those who are prepared for the worst, no matter what the worst may be. And often we're just reacting and responding, and we've got to get ready. We've got to plan and prepare. 01:18Charlie Rose: Some say that crisis, as you suggest, is the new normal. I mean, there is a crisis aplenty. We look at climate change as one, global warming. We look at the kinds of things we're now hearing, the fear of some kind of global epidemic. You look at scarcity of water. And there's a whole range of issues that confront us now beyond the geopolitical issues. 01:48 Judith Rodin: Well, they're all folded in. In other words, many people will argue that wars over water are going to be the next big geopolitical issue. Our military is actually doing resilience planning. Secretary Hagel ordered the entire military to really look at the potential impact of food insecurity and water shortage and things that you never would have thought the U.S. military would need to be worrying about 50 years ago. Now we need to make the military have the capacity to plan and prepare for what kinds of disruptions.
Judith Rodin, president of the Rockefeller Foundation, discusses her book, "The Resilience Dividend," which tells stories of resilience in the face of catastrophic challenges.
https://charlierose.com/videos/23641
Ken Chenault: Good to see you. 00:00Charlie Rose: Judith Rodin is here. She has been president of the Rockefeller Foundation since 2005. Her tenure there is focused on programs that tackle the most pressing global challenges and disruptions of the 21st century. Her new book is called "The Resilience Dividend: Being strong in a world where things go wrong". It argues that building resilience is an urgent social and economic issue. I am pleased to have her back at this table. Welcome. 00:24 Judith Rodin: Thank you, Charlie. Great to be here again. 00:27Charlie Rose: I must say before the Rockefeller Fund, you were also president of the University of Pennsylvania and Yale as well. 00:33 Judith Rodin: Yes. 00:34Charlie Rose: so you've spent a lifetime in academia as well as running the Rockefeller Foundation. What's this about, "The Resilience Dividend? 00:44 Judith Rodin: It's based on the -- really the realization that in the 21st century, crises may be the new normal. There actually isn't a week that goes by that somewhere in the world there isn't a violent storm, or a flood, or a cyber attack, civil unrest, a new epidemic, outbreak like ebola. And so those who are going to do best are those who are prepared for the worst, no matter what the worst may be. And often we're just reacting and responding, and we've got to get ready. We've got to plan and prepare. 01:18Charlie Rose: Some say that crisis, as you suggest, is the new normal. I mean, there is a crisis aplenty. We look at climate change as one, global warming. We look at the kinds of things we're now hearing, the fear of some kind of global epidemic. You look at scarcity of water. And there's a whole range of issues that confront us now beyond the geopolitical issues. 01:48 Judith Rodin: Well, they're all folded in. In other words, many people will argue that wars over water are going to be the next big geopolitical issue. Our military is actually doing resilience planning. Secretary Hagel ordered the entire military to really look at the potential impact of food insecurity and water shortage and things that you never would have thought the U.S. military would need to be worrying about 50 years ago. Now we need to make the military have the capacity to plan and prepare for what kinds of disruptions.
https://charlierose.com/videos/23641
25 March 2018 06:45
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https://charlierose.com/videos/10362
https://charlierose.com/videos/10362
25 March 2018 06:44
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https://charlierose.com/videos/2273
https://charlierose.com/videos/2273
25 March 2018 06:44
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https://charlierose.com/videos/26944
https://charlierose.com/videos/26944
25 March 2018 06:43
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https://charlierose.com/videos/26848
https://charlierose.com/videos/26848
25 March 2018 06:43
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https://charlierose.com/videos/26260
https://charlierose.com/videos/26260
25 March 2018 06:43
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https://charlierose.com/videos/27783
https://charlierose.com/videos/27783
25 March 2018 06:42
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Friday 12/11/1998
In a compilation of past conversations with biographers: David Remnick gives insight into the remarkable life of Muhammad Ali, whom Remnick profiles in his book, "King of the World." Author A. Scott Berg presents "Lindbergh," a biography of aviator Charles Lindbergh. Ron Chernow discusses "Titan: The Life of John D. Rockefeller, Sr."
https://charlierose.com/videos/25472
In a compilation of past conversations with biographers: David Remnick gives insight into the remarkable life of Muhammad Ali, whom Remnick profiles in his book, "King of the World." Author A. Scott Berg presents "Lindbergh," a biography of aviator Charles Lindbergh. Ron Chernow discusses "Titan: The Life of John D. Rockefeller, Sr."
https://charlierose.com/videos/25472
https://charlierose.com/videos/25472
25 March 2018 06:41
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Monday 12/20/2004
Rebroadcast — Friday 01/28/2005
Nobel Prize winner for medicine, Paul Nurse, discusses the latest advancements in cancer research, the importance of stem cell research, and recent scientific discoveries in cosmology and archaeology.
https://charlierose.com/videos/18188
Monday 12/20/2004
Rebroadcast — Friday 01/28/2005
Nobel Prize winner for medicine, Paul Nurse, discusses the latest advancements in cancer research, the importance of stem cell research, and recent scientific discoveries in cosmology and archaeology.
https://charlierose.com/videos/18188
https://charlierose.com/videos/18188
25 March 2018 06:40
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Tuesday 06/02/1998
Attorney Alan Dershowitz on the removal of William Ginsburg from the Lewinsky defense team. A look back at the 1998 Tony Award nominations with theater critics John Lahr and John Simon. Alan Cumming on his role in the Broadway revival of the play, "Cabaret." Ron Chernow on his book, "Titan: The Life of John D. Rockefeller, Sr."
https://charlierose.com/videos/22871
Attorney Alan Dershowitz on the removal of William Ginsburg from the Lewinsky defense team. A look back at the 1998 Tony Award nominations with theater critics John Lahr and John Simon. Alan Cumming on his role in the Broadway revival of the play, "Cabaret." Ron Chernow on his book, "Titan: The Life of John D. Rockefeller, Sr."
https://charlierose.com/videos/22871
https://charlierose.com/videos/22871
25 March 2018 06:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thursday 07/05/2012
Indian industrialist Ratan Tata and Judith Rodin, president of the Rockefeller Foundation, discuss Tata's lifetime achievement award for philanthropy and the foundation's upcoming Innovation Forum. Jane Harman, former congresswoman and president of the Woodrow Wilson Center, talks about Egypt's elections, U.S. foreign policy, and her late husband, Sidney Harman.
https://charlierose.com/videos/22136
Charlie Rose: For almost 100 years the Rockefeller Foundation has been a world leader in philanthropy and global development. This week they are hosting their second annual innovation forum. Leaders from the business, government, and non-profit sectors gather to address the most pressing global challenges. This year Ratan Tata will be receiving a Lifetime Achievement Award for his work in philanthropy. He is the Chairman of the Tata Group a family-run global conglomerate that has been giving back to its native India since its founding in 1868. Since becoming company Chairman in 1991 he has run the group's charitable efforts in education, performing arts, agricultural development and much more. Also joining me Judith Rodin President of the Rockefeller Foundation; she is a former President of the University of Pennsylvania and a powerful voice on innovation in corporate giving and philanthropy. I'm especially pleased to have both of them at this table not only to talk about the Rockefeller Foundation and this conference but also this remarkable man and friend of mine who sits to my left. Welcome and congratulations. 01:13 Ratan Tata: Thank you, Charlie. 01:15Charlie Rose: So -- so why did we choose -- why did you choose, why did Rockefeller choose him for this recipient of a lifetime achievement award? 01:24 Judith Rodin: Well, Rockefeller from its founding has been interested in -- 01:30Charlie Rose: This is going to be embarrassing for you, I wonder. 01:35 Judith Rodin: -- innovation and how to bring innovation in philanthropy and how to bring innovation to philanthropy. And I can't imagine anyone wh better embodies as a family, as a company, as an individual that notion. The family innovated early taking corporate profits and building trust and using them for philanthropic good to give back to the citizens of their country and really help to lift people out of poverty. They've innovated in their businesses, in ways that focus on everyone but don't forget the people at the bottom. So I think Mr. Tata watching seven people perched on a motor scooter probably saw one accident too many and innovated the Nano. 02:19Charlie Rose: Yes. 02:22 Judith Rodin: The idea that you could for low cost give these families more safety, make the environment better so on and on and on. But I think so much of business now is starting to think about how do we evolve past corporate social responsibility? How do we really start thinking about the stakeholders, not just the shareholders? And I think Ratan Tata wrote the book.
Indian industrialist Ratan Tata and Judith Rodin, president of the Rockefeller Foundation, discuss Tata's lifetime achievement award for philanthropy and the foundation's upcoming Innovation Forum. Jane Harman, former congresswoman and president of the Woodrow Wilson Center, talks about Egypt's elections, U.S. foreign policy, and her late husband, Sidney Harman.
https://charlierose.com/videos/22136
Charlie Rose: For almost 100 years the Rockefeller Foundation has been a world leader in philanthropy and global development. This week they are hosting their second annual innovation forum. Leaders from the business, government, and non-profit sectors gather to address the most pressing global challenges. This year Ratan Tata will be receiving a Lifetime Achievement Award for his work in philanthropy. He is the Chairman of the Tata Group a family-run global conglomerate that has been giving back to its native India since its founding in 1868. Since becoming company Chairman in 1991 he has run the group's charitable efforts in education, performing arts, agricultural development and much more. Also joining me Judith Rodin President of the Rockefeller Foundation; she is a former President of the University of Pennsylvania and a powerful voice on innovation in corporate giving and philanthropy. I'm especially pleased to have both of them at this table not only to talk about the Rockefeller Foundation and this conference but also this remarkable man and friend of mine who sits to my left. Welcome and congratulations. 01:13 Ratan Tata: Thank you, Charlie. 01:15Charlie Rose: So -- so why did we choose -- why did you choose, why did Rockefeller choose him for this recipient of a lifetime achievement award? 01:24 Judith Rodin: Well, Rockefeller from its founding has been interested in -- 01:30Charlie Rose: This is going to be embarrassing for you, I wonder. 01:35 Judith Rodin: -- innovation and how to bring innovation in philanthropy and how to bring innovation to philanthropy. And I can't imagine anyone wh better embodies as a family, as a company, as an individual that notion. The family innovated early taking corporate profits and building trust and using them for philanthropic good to give back to the citizens of their country and really help to lift people out of poverty. They've innovated in their businesses, in ways that focus on everyone but don't forget the people at the bottom. So I think Mr. Tata watching seven people perched on a motor scooter probably saw one accident too many and innovated the Nano. 02:19Charlie Rose: Yes. 02:22 Judith Rodin: The idea that you could for low cost give these families more safety, make the environment better so on and on and on. But I think so much of business now is starting to think about how do we evolve past corporate social responsibility? How do we really start thinking about the stakeholders, not just the shareholders? And I think Ratan Tata wrote the book.
https://charlierose.com/videos/22136
25 March 2018 06:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Monday 06/05/2006
Widely expected to seek the Republican nomination for president in 2008, Governor Mitt Romney explains why he supports a Constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage and why each state should establish its own abortion laws.
https://charlierose.com/videos/26771
Widely expected to seek the Republican nomination for president in 2008, Governor Mitt Romney explains why he supports a Constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage and why each state should establish its own abortion laws.
https://charlierose.com/videos/26771
https://charlierose.com/videos/26771
25 March 2018 06:38
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Tuesday 06/07/1994
Iqbal Riza of the U.N. and a panel of refugee advocates explain the events leading up to the genocide in Rwanda and how to end the ongoing violence. Actor Victor Garber describes his latest undertaking as the Devil in the Broadway revival of "Damn Yankees," for which he recently received a Tony nomination. Bernice Kert, biographer of philanthropist Abby Aldrich Rockefeller, joins Abby's son David to remember the matriarch of the Rockefeller family.
https://charlierose.com/videos/23286
Iqbal Riza of the U.N. and a panel of refugee advocates explain the events leading up to the genocide in Rwanda and how to end the ongoing violence. Actor Victor Garber describes his latest undertaking as the Devil in the Broadway revival of "Damn Yankees," for which he recently received a Tony nomination. Bernice Kert, biographer of philanthropist Abby Aldrich Rockefeller, joins Abby's son David to remember the matriarch of the Rockefeller family.
https://charlierose.com/videos/23286
https://charlierose.com/videos/23286
25 March 2018 06:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://charlierose.com/videos/23011
https://charlierose.com/videos/23011
25 March 2018 06:36
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Wednesday 08/22/2007
Joel Klein, chancellor of the NYC department of education, reflects on his many reformations to the New York City school system and the influence of Mayor Bloomberg. Professor Joel Fleishman joins Judith Rodin, president of the Rockefeller Foundation, and journalist Matthew Bishop to analyze the state of American philanthropy.
https://charlierose.com/videos/24627
Charlie Rose: Joel Klein is here. He is the chancellor of the Department of Education for the City of New York. It is viewed as one of the toughest and most important civic positions in the country. He recently marked his fifth anniversary at the job. He has made major changes to the city schools, like dissolving the Board of Education and granting more power to principals. His reforms are viewed as a model by other big cities like Los Angeles and Washington. I am pleased to have him back here at this table. I can see him smiling because, you know what, he is -- I'm saying these nice things about him, and the first thing he wants to say is that it's Mayor Bloomberg. 00:49Joel Klein: It is indeed, Charlie. Nice to be back with you. But the mayor deserves the credit. 00:54Charlie Rose: Right. 00:56Joel Klein: It's his leadership. 00:57Charlie Rose: And especially the whole battle to get control of the Board of Education. 01:01Joel Klein: Of course. 01:03Charlie Rose: You know, which every mayor -- Rudy Giuliani is envious about the fact that you guys were able to do it. 01:07Joel Klein: Well, I think that speaks a lot about Mike. But you know, now, as you said in the beginning, there, Adrian Fenty has done it in D.C. -- 01:11Charlie Rose: Washington. Right. 01:14Joel Klein: It's become a kind of model. And it should be. I mean, let's be candid -- what's more important to a city other than safety and education? 01:21Charlie Rose: Right. Tell me, you come to this from the law. You come to this from the Anti-Trust Department of the Justice Department. You come to this from a variety of occupations, but none in the administration of schools, except that you once went to school here in New York City. That's your biggest qualification for this job. 01:41Joel Klein: Well, I spent 12 years at it, though. You know, I think it's funny. It's always been an interest of mine. But I think what the mayor wanted is somebody from outside the system -- 01:51Charlie Rose: Right.
Joel Klein, chancellor of the NYC department of education, reflects on his many reformations to the New York City school system and the influence of Mayor Bloomberg. Professor Joel Fleishman joins Judith Rodin, president of the Rockefeller Foundation, and journalist Matthew Bishop to analyze the state of American philanthropy.
https://charlierose.com/videos/24627
Charlie Rose: Joel Klein is here. He is the chancellor of the Department of Education for the City of New York. It is viewed as one of the toughest and most important civic positions in the country. He recently marked his fifth anniversary at the job. He has made major changes to the city schools, like dissolving the Board of Education and granting more power to principals. His reforms are viewed as a model by other big cities like Los Angeles and Washington. I am pleased to have him back here at this table. I can see him smiling because, you know what, he is -- I'm saying these nice things about him, and the first thing he wants to say is that it's Mayor Bloomberg. 00:49Joel Klein: It is indeed, Charlie. Nice to be back with you. But the mayor deserves the credit. 00:54Charlie Rose: Right. 00:56Joel Klein: It's his leadership. 00:57Charlie Rose: And especially the whole battle to get control of the Board of Education. 01:01Joel Klein: Of course. 01:03Charlie Rose: You know, which every mayor -- Rudy Giuliani is envious about the fact that you guys were able to do it. 01:07Joel Klein: Well, I think that speaks a lot about Mike. But you know, now, as you said in the beginning, there, Adrian Fenty has done it in D.C. -- 01:11Charlie Rose: Washington. Right. 01:14Joel Klein: It's become a kind of model. And it should be. I mean, let's be candid -- what's more important to a city other than safety and education? 01:21Charlie Rose: Right. Tell me, you come to this from the law. You come to this from the Anti-Trust Department of the Justice Department. You come to this from a variety of occupations, but none in the administration of schools, except that you once went to school here in New York City. That's your biggest qualification for this job. 01:41Joel Klein: Well, I spent 12 years at it, though. You know, I think it's funny. It's always been an interest of mine. But I think what the mayor wanted is somebody from outside the system -- 01:51Charlie Rose: Right.
https://charlierose.com/videos/24627
25 March 2018 06:35
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https://charlierose.com/videos/31179
https://charlierose.com/videos/31179
25 March 2018 06:35
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https://charlierose.com/videos/21202
https://charlierose.com/videos/21202
25 March 2018 06:34
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https://charlierose.com/videos/7021
https://charlierose.com/videos/7021
25 March 2018 06:34
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https://charlierose.com/videos/20555
https://charlierose.com/videos/20555
25 March 2018 06:33
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Thursday 07/05/2012
A conversation about corporate philanthropy with the chairman of India's Tata Group and the head of the Rockefeller Foundation
https://charlierose.com/videos/17074
Charlie Rose: This week they are hosting their second annual innovation forum. Leaders from the business, government, and non-profit sectors gather to address the most pressing global challenges. This year Ratan Tata will be receiving a Lifetime Achievement Award for his work in philanthropy. He is the Chairman of the Tata Group a family-run global conglomerate that has been giving back to its native India since its founding in 1868. Since becoming company Chairman in 1991 he has run the group's charitable efforts in education, performing arts, agricultural development and much more. Also joining me Judith Rodin President of the Rockefeller Foundation; she is a former President of the University of Pennsylvania and a powerful voice on innovation in corporate giving and philanthropy. I'm especially pleased to have both of them at this table not only to talk about the Rockefeller Foundation and this conference but also this remarkable man and friend of mine who sits to my left. Welcome and congratulations. 00:57 Ratan Tata: Thank you, Charlie. 00:59Charlie Rose: So -- so why did we choose -- why did you choose, why did Rockefeller choose him for this recipient of a lifetime achievement award? 01:08Judith Rodin: Well, Rockefeller from its founding has been interested in -- 01:14Charlie Rose: This is going to be embarrassing for you, I wonder. 01:19Judith Rodin: -- innovation and how to bring innovation in philanthropy and how to bring innovation to philanthropy. And I can't imagine anyone wh better embodies as a family, as a company, as an individual that notion. The family innovated early taking corporate profits and building trust and using them for philanthropic good to give back to the citizens of their country and really help to lift people out of poverty. They've innovated in their businesses, in ways that focus on everyone but don't forget the people at the bottom. So I think Mr. Tata watching seven people perched on a motor scooter probably saw one accident too many and innovated the Nano. 02:03Charlie Rose: Yes. 02:06Judith Rodin: The idea that you could for low cost give these families more safety, make the environment better so on and on and on. But I think so much of business now is starting to think about how do we evolve past corporate social responsibility? How do we really start thinking about the stakeholders, not just the shareholders? And I think Ratan Tata wrote the book. 02:29Charlie Rose: How did you come to this, I mean you know in a sense, you went to Cornell by the way. 02:33 Ratan Tata: Yes. 02:35Charlie Rose: And set out to be an architect, by the way, right? 02:39 Ratan Tata: That's right.
A conversation about corporate philanthropy with the chairman of India's Tata Group and the head of the Rockefeller Foundation
https://charlierose.com/videos/17074
Charlie Rose: This week they are hosting their second annual innovation forum. Leaders from the business, government, and non-profit sectors gather to address the most pressing global challenges. This year Ratan Tata will be receiving a Lifetime Achievement Award for his work in philanthropy. He is the Chairman of the Tata Group a family-run global conglomerate that has been giving back to its native India since its founding in 1868. Since becoming company Chairman in 1991 he has run the group's charitable efforts in education, performing arts, agricultural development and much more. Also joining me Judith Rodin President of the Rockefeller Foundation; she is a former President of the University of Pennsylvania and a powerful voice on innovation in corporate giving and philanthropy. I'm especially pleased to have both of them at this table not only to talk about the Rockefeller Foundation and this conference but also this remarkable man and friend of mine who sits to my left. Welcome and congratulations. 00:57 Ratan Tata: Thank you, Charlie. 00:59Charlie Rose: So -- so why did we choose -- why did you choose, why did Rockefeller choose him for this recipient of a lifetime achievement award? 01:08Judith Rodin: Well, Rockefeller from its founding has been interested in -- 01:14Charlie Rose: This is going to be embarrassing for you, I wonder. 01:19Judith Rodin: -- innovation and how to bring innovation in philanthropy and how to bring innovation to philanthropy. And I can't imagine anyone wh better embodies as a family, as a company, as an individual that notion. The family innovated early taking corporate profits and building trust and using them for philanthropic good to give back to the citizens of their country and really help to lift people out of poverty. They've innovated in their businesses, in ways that focus on everyone but don't forget the people at the bottom. So I think Mr. Tata watching seven people perched on a motor scooter probably saw one accident too many and innovated the Nano. 02:03Charlie Rose: Yes. 02:06Judith Rodin: The idea that you could for low cost give these families more safety, make the environment better so on and on and on. But I think so much of business now is starting to think about how do we evolve past corporate social responsibility? How do we really start thinking about the stakeholders, not just the shareholders? And I think Ratan Tata wrote the book. 02:29Charlie Rose: How did you come to this, I mean you know in a sense, you went to Cornell by the way. 02:33 Ratan Tata: Yes. 02:35Charlie Rose: And set out to be an architect, by the way, right? 02:39 Ratan Tata: That's right.
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Wednesday 08/22/2007
Professor Joel Fleishman joins Judith Rodin, president of the Rockefeller Foundation, and journalist Matthew Bishop to analyze the state of American philanthropy.
https://charlierose.com/videos/11202
Charlie Rose: change the next generation. Philanthropic foundations have used private wealth to promote well-being for more than a century. Today, giving is greater than ever. However, the challenges of poverty and global health are unending. Joining me now is Joel Fleishman, the author of "The Foundation: A Great American Secret." He is a former president of Atlantic Philanthropies. He is currently a professor at Duke University. Also joining me, Judith Rodin, president of the Rockefeller Foundation. And Matthew Bishop; he is the chief business writer for "The Economist," an expert on global philanthropy. I am pleased to have all three of them at this table. Just have you -- because you wrote the book -- elaborate for me on the status of philanthropy in America today. 00:42 Joel Fleishman: The status of philanthropy in America today is greater than it's ever been. Americans give away -- gave away last year something like $300 billion. And of that $300 billion, foundations itself gave away something like $40 billion. It's the only pool of unrestricted money that's available to start organizations, to nourish organizations, to facilitate social movements of one sort or another. 01:08Charlie Rose: Is it fair to say that America is, Matthew, more philanthropic than any other country, for the most part? 01:13 Matthew Bishop: It has a more philanthropic tradition, and giving at a higher level. But I think what's happening now is the whole world is catching on to what's been happening in America for the past century, because governments are finding themselves unable to cope, and people are getting richer, and they want to give. But America is still ahead. 01:30Charlie Rose: Tell me how you, sitting as chairman of the Rockefeller Foundation, how do you measure success? 01:35 Judith Rodin: Well, we measure success by looking at impact. That is, if you define your problem properly, then you can ask yourself in a really sensible way, have we made a difference? Have the beneficiaries been affected? Have lives -- 01:47Charlie Rose: But is that always easy to tell? 01:49 Judith Rodin: No, but that doesn't mean you can't do it. You have to define intermediate goals. And if you set a long-term goal -- I want to cure poverty -- then you can never determine whether you've had impact. But if you set the kinds of goals that really are measurable and you measure along the way, not only can you tell if you've had impact, but you can make midcourse corrections, and that's something, I think, as Joel has said in his book, philanthropy doesn't do enough of. You know, this isn't some controlled clinical trial where you don't figure out until the end whether it worked or not. Philanthropy is an art as well as a science. And so you have got to test, assess the impact, make midcourse corrections, and figure out how to move on. 02:24Charlie Rose: This is a different kind of point, but I know a lot of people who tell me it's a lot easier to make money than give it away. 02:32 Judith Rodin: It's very hard to give it away well. 02:34Charlie Rose: You want to have what impact on foundations? You hope this book does what? 02:40 Joel Fleishman: I hope that this book will enable foundations to realize that they need to open up themselves, so that they get ideas from outside, criticisms from outside. The problem is that foundations really aren't accountable to anybody, except their own boards. That's a great benefit, because it frees foundations to do all sorts of imaginative things. The problem is, that if you don't have the input from outside, the so-called market forces, coming to work on foundations, it means that foundations aren't really performing as well as they really could if they had somebody looking over their shoulder from the outside -- not government, not any kinds of regulatory structures, but people who know the business and who have access to what they're doing -- their documents, their evaluation reports of one sort or another. If the people on the outside don't know what foundations are doing, then how can people on the outside both help them do better and build on what they're doing?
Professor Joel Fleishman joins Judith Rodin, president of the Rockefeller Foundation, and journalist Matthew Bishop to analyze the state of American philanthropy.
https://charlierose.com/videos/11202
Charlie Rose: change the next generation. Philanthropic foundations have used private wealth to promote well-being for more than a century. Today, giving is greater than ever. However, the challenges of poverty and global health are unending. Joining me now is Joel Fleishman, the author of "The Foundation: A Great American Secret." He is a former president of Atlantic Philanthropies. He is currently a professor at Duke University. Also joining me, Judith Rodin, president of the Rockefeller Foundation. And Matthew Bishop; he is the chief business writer for "The Economist," an expert on global philanthropy. I am pleased to have all three of them at this table. Just have you -- because you wrote the book -- elaborate for me on the status of philanthropy in America today. 00:42 Joel Fleishman: The status of philanthropy in America today is greater than it's ever been. Americans give away -- gave away last year something like $300 billion. And of that $300 billion, foundations itself gave away something like $40 billion. It's the only pool of unrestricted money that's available to start organizations, to nourish organizations, to facilitate social movements of one sort or another. 01:08Charlie Rose: Is it fair to say that America is, Matthew, more philanthropic than any other country, for the most part? 01:13 Matthew Bishop: It has a more philanthropic tradition, and giving at a higher level. But I think what's happening now is the whole world is catching on to what's been happening in America for the past century, because governments are finding themselves unable to cope, and people are getting richer, and they want to give. But America is still ahead. 01:30Charlie Rose: Tell me how you, sitting as chairman of the Rockefeller Foundation, how do you measure success? 01:35 Judith Rodin: Well, we measure success by looking at impact. That is, if you define your problem properly, then you can ask yourself in a really sensible way, have we made a difference? Have the beneficiaries been affected? Have lives -- 01:47Charlie Rose: But is that always easy to tell? 01:49 Judith Rodin: No, but that doesn't mean you can't do it. You have to define intermediate goals. And if you set a long-term goal -- I want to cure poverty -- then you can never determine whether you've had impact. But if you set the kinds of goals that really are measurable and you measure along the way, not only can you tell if you've had impact, but you can make midcourse corrections, and that's something, I think, as Joel has said in his book, philanthropy doesn't do enough of. You know, this isn't some controlled clinical trial where you don't figure out until the end whether it worked or not. Philanthropy is an art as well as a science. And so you have got to test, assess the impact, make midcourse corrections, and figure out how to move on. 02:24Charlie Rose: This is a different kind of point, but I know a lot of people who tell me it's a lot easier to make money than give it away. 02:32 Judith Rodin: It's very hard to give it away well. 02:34Charlie Rose: You want to have what impact on foundations? You hope this book does what? 02:40 Joel Fleishman: I hope that this book will enable foundations to realize that they need to open up themselves, so that they get ideas from outside, criticisms from outside. The problem is that foundations really aren't accountable to anybody, except their own boards. That's a great benefit, because it frees foundations to do all sorts of imaginative things. The problem is, that if you don't have the input from outside, the so-called market forces, coming to work on foundations, it means that foundations aren't really performing as well as they really could if they had somebody looking over their shoulder from the outside -- not government, not any kinds of regulatory structures, but people who know the business and who have access to what they're doing -- their documents, their evaluation reports of one sort or another. If the people on the outside don't know what foundations are doing, then how can people on the outside both help them do better and build on what they're doing?
https://charlierose.com/videos/11202
25 March 2018 06:31
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https://charlierose.com/videos/31177
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25 March 2018 06:30
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25 March 2018 06:29
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Tuesday 11/10/1992
A panel of African American legislators examine the gains made in the number of congressional seats, what that might mean for the 103rd Congress, and how it will influence the political agenda of President-elect Bill Clinton. Former Chase Bank Chairman David Rockefeller talks politics, from economic challenges abroad to the future of his beloved New York City. Author Antonia Fraser presents her new book, "The Wives of Henry VIII," and reflects on the rich history of the British monarchy.
https://charlierose.com/videos/20941
00:12Charlie Rose: Welcome to our broadcast. Tonight David Rockefeller reflects on the United States in the world as a new president prepares to take power in Washington. Also, bestselling historian, Lady Antonia Fraser joins us for a conversation about everything from biography to the royal family in England. We begin with a look at the new Congress in Washington from the perspective of former house whip Bill Gray, Missouri Representative William Clay, author of Just Permanent Interests: Black Americans in Congress, 1870 to 1991, and Representative Floyd Flake of New York. Welcome, it's good to have all of you here. Tell me how this, first Bill because you're not going to be there, tell me are you sorry you're not going to be there? 00:50Bill Gray: No, not at all. 00:52Charlie Rose: Oh, come on. It's a new Democratic president at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, you have been on- 00:58Bill Gray: Charlie, I knew they were coming that's why I was able to leave. I knew Carol Moseley Braun was coming, I knew that Floyd and Bill Clay would be joined by thirteen new members and we'd have thirty-nine members of the Congressional Black Caucus, so therefore I could go do something else. 01:11Charlie Rose: You said, "They don't need me, I can turn (inaudible) second part of my life." How is it going to be different, before we talk to them, in your judgment because you got Democrats in power in the Senate with fifty what, fifty-eight, fifty-nine, and you've got a hundred and ten new members of the Congress? 01:26Bill Gray: I think it's going to be very different because you'll be talking about a significant block of votes, almost forty votes that will have some similar concerns particularly with regard to poverty, with bigotry and discrimination. Secondly, it will be different for the Black Caucus itself because you will be getting most of these new members will be coming from southern districts and be bringing a southern perspective. 01:52Charlie Rose: Which is different from the perspective of Floyd Flake? 01:57Bill Gray: Which is different from the one I brought from Philadelphia, urban, Bill Saint Louis, Floyd New York. There will be a lot of commonality but there will be some significant regional kind of differences. Then I think the third thing is that these new members are coming as accomplished politicians. Many of them chaired major committees in their State Houses and State Senates. Over, I think about ten of them actually come with a vast array of political experience. I came straight from a pulpit. Floyd, I think came straight from a pulpit. 02:27 Floyd Flake: Straight from a pulpit. 02:29Bill Gray: Bill Clay came from a record of historic civil rights leadership and labor leadership and that's quite unique because now you're talking about a whole group- 02:36Charlie Rose: People who have already acquired political skills? 02:40Bill Gray: -- who are very accomplished. Who have chaired major committees. I think one person was chairman of the appropriations committee in the State Senate who will now -- They bring all of that to this process, so I think in those three ways you're talking about a major change. 02:54Charlie Rose: Is gridlock dead? 02:57Bill Gray: I think gridlock is dead. I think it's going to be a real problem for the Democrats in Congress now, because they're going to have to follow a president and deliver and that's going to be tough because there may be some disagreements on how you do it. 03:11 William Clay: I think it's dead because I don't anticipate us living by the veto any more I think that there will be a getting together between the administration and the Congress. I think the fourteen additional, thirteen additional black Representatives, plus an additional nine or ten Hispanics will make a difference. Even if Bush had been re-elected we would have been able to override his veto in many instances. 03:35Charlie Rose: What do you think the president has to do in terms of establishing the appropriate tenor with Congress? 03:44 William Clay: I think he's going to have to bite the bullet. We're going to have to downsize our defense commitment and defense involvement. We're going to have to set up some retraining programs and we're going to have to appropriate monies concurrent with the downsizing of the defense department to rebuild our infrastructures. That means a lot of displacement of people who feel comfortable in their positions now but it's going to have to be done.
A panel of African American legislators examine the gains made in the number of congressional seats, what that might mean for the 103rd Congress, and how it will influence the political agenda of President-elect Bill Clinton. Former Chase Bank Chairman David Rockefeller talks politics, from economic challenges abroad to the future of his beloved New York City. Author Antonia Fraser presents her new book, "The Wives of Henry VIII," and reflects on the rich history of the British monarchy.
https://charlierose.com/videos/20941
00:12Charlie Rose: Welcome to our broadcast. Tonight David Rockefeller reflects on the United States in the world as a new president prepares to take power in Washington. Also, bestselling historian, Lady Antonia Fraser joins us for a conversation about everything from biography to the royal family in England. We begin with a look at the new Congress in Washington from the perspective of former house whip Bill Gray, Missouri Representative William Clay, author of Just Permanent Interests: Black Americans in Congress, 1870 to 1991, and Representative Floyd Flake of New York. Welcome, it's good to have all of you here. Tell me how this, first Bill because you're not going to be there, tell me are you sorry you're not going to be there? 00:50Bill Gray: No, not at all. 00:52Charlie Rose: Oh, come on. It's a new Democratic president at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, you have been on- 00:58Bill Gray: Charlie, I knew they were coming that's why I was able to leave. I knew Carol Moseley Braun was coming, I knew that Floyd and Bill Clay would be joined by thirteen new members and we'd have thirty-nine members of the Congressional Black Caucus, so therefore I could go do something else. 01:11Charlie Rose: You said, "They don't need me, I can turn (inaudible) second part of my life." How is it going to be different, before we talk to them, in your judgment because you got Democrats in power in the Senate with fifty what, fifty-eight, fifty-nine, and you've got a hundred and ten new members of the Congress? 01:26Bill Gray: I think it's going to be very different because you'll be talking about a significant block of votes, almost forty votes that will have some similar concerns particularly with regard to poverty, with bigotry and discrimination. Secondly, it will be different for the Black Caucus itself because you will be getting most of these new members will be coming from southern districts and be bringing a southern perspective. 01:52Charlie Rose: Which is different from the perspective of Floyd Flake? 01:57Bill Gray: Which is different from the one I brought from Philadelphia, urban, Bill Saint Louis, Floyd New York. There will be a lot of commonality but there will be some significant regional kind of differences. Then I think the third thing is that these new members are coming as accomplished politicians. Many of them chaired major committees in their State Houses and State Senates. Over, I think about ten of them actually come with a vast array of political experience. I came straight from a pulpit. Floyd, I think came straight from a pulpit. 02:27 Floyd Flake: Straight from a pulpit. 02:29Bill Gray: Bill Clay came from a record of historic civil rights leadership and labor leadership and that's quite unique because now you're talking about a whole group- 02:36Charlie Rose: People who have already acquired political skills? 02:40Bill Gray: -- who are very accomplished. Who have chaired major committees. I think one person was chairman of the appropriations committee in the State Senate who will now -- They bring all of that to this process, so I think in those three ways you're talking about a major change. 02:54Charlie Rose: Is gridlock dead? 02:57Bill Gray: I think gridlock is dead. I think it's going to be a real problem for the Democrats in Congress now, because they're going to have to follow a president and deliver and that's going to be tough because there may be some disagreements on how you do it. 03:11 William Clay: I think it's dead because I don't anticipate us living by the veto any more I think that there will be a getting together between the administration and the Congress. I think the fourteen additional, thirteen additional black Representatives, plus an additional nine or ten Hispanics will make a difference. Even if Bush had been re-elected we would have been able to override his veto in many instances. 03:35Charlie Rose: What do you think the president has to do in terms of establishing the appropriate tenor with Congress? 03:44 William Clay: I think he's going to have to bite the bullet. We're going to have to downsize our defense commitment and defense involvement. We're going to have to set up some retraining programs and we're going to have to appropriate monies concurrent with the downsizing of the defense department to rebuild our infrastructures. That means a lot of displacement of people who feel comfortable in their positions now but it's going to have to be done.
https://charlierose.com/videos/20941
25 March 2018 06:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Monday 03/20/2017
HOUSE INTELLIGENCE HEARINGS PT. 1 & 2; REMEMBERING CHUCK BERRY; REMEMBERING DAVID Alexander Rockefeller Rothschild
Representatives Adam Schiff and Peter King on the House Intelligence Committee's first public hearing on Russian interference in the presidential election; we continue the discussion of the hearings on Russia with Karoun Demirjian of The Washington Post and Matt Rosenberg of The New York Times. A look back at the legacy of David Rockefeller, the banker and philanthropist who made significant contributions to commercial and civic life in New York City. David Browne of Rolling Stone reflects on the life and music of Chuck Berry.
https://charlierose.com/videos/30276
Charlie Rose: We begin this evening with this fact: I missed you! And so, it is very good to be back. We have been together, many of us, for more than 25 years. And we have talked about everything from the unfolding discovery of the brain's mysteries to the mind of Russian president Vladimir Putin. And in between, we have seen five presidents, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Trump. We have met Oscar winners and Nobel laureates, MVP's and Pulitzer Prize recipients and we have met heroes who simply did their duty. I am deeply grateful for the opportunity. Undergoing surgery, no matter how serious, makes you aware of the fragility of life and its purpose. You can only hope that it makes you humble. If you, like me, are one of the lucky ones who get to do what they love to do. So, I come back today rested, ready, and thankful to all who labored while I was gone -- from a great staff to unbelievable substitutes. I come back during a week that suggests how interesting our times are, from the FBI director testifying about a president, to a Supreme Court Justice confirmation, to a vote on the Republican health care plan. Oh, to live in interesting times. I come back thanks to medical science and because of that, I am in the best shape I have been in for a long time. I thank you for your support, and I thank you for staying close. And when we come back, we begin with the testimony of the FBI Director James Comey and the Director of the NSA Mike Rogers and we talk to Representative Adam Schiff and Peter King of the House Intelligence Committee. We begin this evening with the House Intelligence Committee's first public hearing on Russian interference in the presidential election. FBI Director James Comey confirmed there is an ongoing investigation into Russia's meddling, including possible collusion between President Trump's campaign and Russian officials. Director Comey also testified there is no evidence so far to support the president's claims that former President Obama wiretapped him. Lawmakers also heard from NSA Director Mike Rogers. He rejected White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer's allegation that the British intelligence agency, GCHQ, conducted surveillance of President Trump. 02:27James Comey: I have been authorized by the Department of Justice to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counter-intelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. And that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia's efforts. With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping directed at him by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets. 03:05 Adam Schiff: Did you ever request that your counterparts in GCHQ should wiretap Mr. Trump on behalf of President Obama? 03:12Michael Rogers: No sir, nor would I. That would be expressly against the construct of the Five Eyes Agreement that has been in place for decades. 03:19Charlie Rose: Joining me now from Washington, Representative Adam Schiff of California, the House Intelligence Committee's ranking Democrat; and Representative Peter King of New York who also serves on the committee. I am pleased to have both of them on this program. I begin with you, Congressman Schiff, what's the takeaway? What is the impact? What is the significance of what was said today? 03:40 Adam Schiff: Well, I think there were a few significant things. One, I think the American people got a good sense of why this is such an important matter and really deserves thorough investigation. The breadth of the Russian attack on our democracy, the fact that the FBI has an ongoing investigation to determine whether there was coordination between the Trump campaign and the Russians, as well as the directors, both of their willingness to establish that there was no evidence to support the president's claim that he was wiretapped by his predecessor. Any one of those things, I think on a normal day, would be quite a revelation. But there was a lot packed in today. And I think ultimately the most important thing is it gave a good glimpse of why this is so serious and why we ought to do everything possible to do a thorough investigation and conduct it in a nonpartisan way. 04:30Charlie Rose: Why is this so serious? 04:32 Adam Schiff: Well, because the Intelligence Committee has said this was not a one-off. The Russians will do this again. We can expect them to interfere in our elections again. And in order to inoculate ourselves and to inform the American public so they can evaluate when the Russians meddle again, we have to know exactly what they did here. It's important not only the health of our democracy and our ability to respond to further attacks, but right now Europe is facing the same kind of Russian meddling and obviously we want to do everything in our power to help protect our European allies as well. 05:01Charlie Rose: Congressman King, you sat there as well. What did you take away?
HOUSE INTELLIGENCE HEARINGS PT. 1 & 2; REMEMBERING CHUCK BERRY; REMEMBERING DAVID Alexander Rockefeller Rothschild
Representatives Adam Schiff and Peter King on the House Intelligence Committee's first public hearing on Russian interference in the presidential election; we continue the discussion of the hearings on Russia with Karoun Demirjian of The Washington Post and Matt Rosenberg of The New York Times. A look back at the legacy of David Rockefeller, the banker and philanthropist who made significant contributions to commercial and civic life in New York City. David Browne of Rolling Stone reflects on the life and music of Chuck Berry.
https://charlierose.com/videos/30276
Charlie Rose: We begin this evening with this fact: I missed you! And so, it is very good to be back. We have been together, many of us, for more than 25 years. And we have talked about everything from the unfolding discovery of the brain's mysteries to the mind of Russian president Vladimir Putin. And in between, we have seen five presidents, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Trump. We have met Oscar winners and Nobel laureates, MVP's and Pulitzer Prize recipients and we have met heroes who simply did their duty. I am deeply grateful for the opportunity. Undergoing surgery, no matter how serious, makes you aware of the fragility of life and its purpose. You can only hope that it makes you humble. If you, like me, are one of the lucky ones who get to do what they love to do. So, I come back today rested, ready, and thankful to all who labored while I was gone -- from a great staff to unbelievable substitutes. I come back during a week that suggests how interesting our times are, from the FBI director testifying about a president, to a Supreme Court Justice confirmation, to a vote on the Republican health care plan. Oh, to live in interesting times. I come back thanks to medical science and because of that, I am in the best shape I have been in for a long time. I thank you for your support, and I thank you for staying close. And when we come back, we begin with the testimony of the FBI Director James Comey and the Director of the NSA Mike Rogers and we talk to Representative Adam Schiff and Peter King of the House Intelligence Committee. We begin this evening with the House Intelligence Committee's first public hearing on Russian interference in the presidential election. FBI Director James Comey confirmed there is an ongoing investigation into Russia's meddling, including possible collusion between President Trump's campaign and Russian officials. Director Comey also testified there is no evidence so far to support the president's claims that former President Obama wiretapped him. Lawmakers also heard from NSA Director Mike Rogers. He rejected White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer's allegation that the British intelligence agency, GCHQ, conducted surveillance of President Trump. 02:27James Comey: I have been authorized by the Department of Justice to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counter-intelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. And that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia's efforts. With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping directed at him by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets. 03:05 Adam Schiff: Did you ever request that your counterparts in GCHQ should wiretap Mr. Trump on behalf of President Obama? 03:12Michael Rogers: No sir, nor would I. That would be expressly against the construct of the Five Eyes Agreement that has been in place for decades. 03:19Charlie Rose: Joining me now from Washington, Representative Adam Schiff of California, the House Intelligence Committee's ranking Democrat; and Representative Peter King of New York who also serves on the committee. I am pleased to have both of them on this program. I begin with you, Congressman Schiff, what's the takeaway? What is the impact? What is the significance of what was said today? 03:40 Adam Schiff: Well, I think there were a few significant things. One, I think the American people got a good sense of why this is such an important matter and really deserves thorough investigation. The breadth of the Russian attack on our democracy, the fact that the FBI has an ongoing investigation to determine whether there was coordination between the Trump campaign and the Russians, as well as the directors, both of their willingness to establish that there was no evidence to support the president's claim that he was wiretapped by his predecessor. Any one of those things, I think on a normal day, would be quite a revelation. But there was a lot packed in today. And I think ultimately the most important thing is it gave a good glimpse of why this is so serious and why we ought to do everything possible to do a thorough investigation and conduct it in a nonpartisan way. 04:30Charlie Rose: Why is this so serious? 04:32 Adam Schiff: Well, because the Intelligence Committee has said this was not a one-off. The Russians will do this again. We can expect them to interfere in our elections again. And in order to inoculate ourselves and to inform the American public so they can evaluate when the Russians meddle again, we have to know exactly what they did here. It's important not only the health of our democracy and our ability to respond to further attacks, but right now Europe is facing the same kind of Russian meddling and obviously we want to do everything in our power to help protect our European allies as well. 05:01Charlie Rose: Congressman King, you sat there as well. What did you take away?
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25 March 2018 06:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Friday 02/04/1994
A look at the growing concern over healthcare reform—with Representative Jim Cooper, Senator Jay Rockefeller, and Norman Ornstein of the American Enterprise Institute. Journalists Mary Matalin and Jane Wallace on their nightly CNBC news show, "Equal Time."
https://charlierose.com/videos/20963
Charlie Rose: Welcome to our broadcast from PBS station WETA in Washington. Tonight, a look at the growing battle over health care, with Democratic Congressman Jim Cooper and Democratic Senator Jay Rockefeller. Then we'll talk capital politics with election consultant and broadcast commentator Norm Ornstein, and we'll have the stars of 01:00Cnbc's Equal Time: We begin with health care. The President's plan has met opposition from many quarters. One of those opponents happens to be in the Democratic Party. Jim Cooper of Tennessee has introduced his own alternative health plan, which yesterday was endorsed by the Business Roundtable, representing 200 of the nation's largest companies. He joins us today from the House Gallery in the Capitol. Congressman Cooper, thank you for joining us. Rep. 01:28 Jim Cooper: Thank you, Charlie, delighted to be with you. 01:33Charlie Rose: Why do you think the Business Roundtable came to the decision to use your plan, endorse your plan, as the starting point, and what do they mean by that? I say that knowing you're not a spokesman for them, but clearly, there's been some communication with you, and I say that noting that their vote came after intense lobbying by the President and Hillary Rodham Clinton. Rep. 01:52 Jim Cooper: Well, first of all, you should realize our bills are very similar. The White House bill and my bill have a lot in common, and we're very proud of that. In fact, I sometimes call my bill Clinton Light, tastes great, less filling. We achieve most of the President's and First Lady's goals without the high cost and without the big bureaucracy. 02:09Charlie Rose: You'll allow that they have a different definition of the distinction between your plan and his plan, or their plan. Rep. 02:18 Jim Cooper: But let's not confuse things. If you look at all the bills in Congress -- and these are long and complicated bills, the President's bill alone is 1,364 pages long, ours is only 292 pages long and ours is still a long bill -- if you look at all the bills, there is no bill in Congress closer to the President's bill than my bill. I'm proud of that. Now, some of the differences are worth discussing, and we've had a lively debate on that already. 02:39Charlie Rose: But let me, before you even tell me the differences, why did you not-- you have been in Congress how long? Rep. 02:47 Jim Cooper: This is my 12th year right now. 02:50Charlie Rose: You're not a senior member of the committee. Secondly, you are running for the Senate, for the Democratic nomination, and expect to have the Democratic nomination and run against Fred Thompson, assuming he's the Republican nominee, for the Senate seat vacated by Senator Gore. What got you so enmeshed in health care, and what led you to this battle that puts you in the forefront of the debate? Rep. 03:13 Jim Cooper: Well, every family is the same. Every family has health care problems. My own father died when I was 14, when he finally lost a 30-year battle with cancer. I have a 101-year-old great-aunt who happens to live in New York, actually, who's healthy as can be. I have a 77-year-old uncle who's got Alzheimer's so bad he can't remember his own name. My own son, who's just two years old, had a terrible health problem, and finally we figured it out, right in the nick of time. But it's also an important problem with everybody. Everywhere I've gone for 12 years, people have had health problems and they've come to me and they've said, ''Jim, we need help.'' And the only ideas really discussed in Washington for decades, ever since Harry Truman and Richard Nixon, have been the ideas of government takeover of health care, which I don't like, and the idea that the boss should pay all of the costs of health care, which is just cost-shifting, not cost reduction. So I set about looking for market-oriented reform, a way of holding down health care costs by putting the customer first, by having real marketplace reform. That idea was introduced three years ago, long before there was ever a Senate possibility, and I've just stayed consistent with my approach and it's catching on like wildfire right now. 04:17Charlie Rose: Well, you said that the good news keeps on going. George Stephanopoulos yesterday expressed disappointment in the vote of the business group Roundtable, and clearly the administration is paying attention to that vote for reasons we're not sure, but nevertheless, they're paying attention, and he said, Mr. Stephanopoulos, the senior adviser, said it was a vote unfortunately led and influenced by the insurance interests and others who are wedded to the status quo. Rep. 04:42 Jim Cooper: Well, I couldn't help but notice in the intro to your show I think a help insurance plan helps fund this very show, so insurance interests are out there, and we need to acknowledge those. But guess what? The number one insurance priority is what's first and foremost in the Clinton plan, which is a law passed by Congress that would require every American to buy a health insurance product. Insurance companies love that. It's important not to get into that debate about who's the best friends with insurance companies or who's not. I've taken on the insurance companies big-time and I'm proud of it. The key thing is substance. What will really be good medicine back home all across America for the American people? And you hit on it earlier. You said you weren't sure quite why the White House had made the Business Roundtable vote so important. I'm not really sure it's that important. These are nice folks, some 80 or maybe 200 of them, but what really matters is what regular folks think back home, and I think the governors' vote earlier this week was a far greater indication of what average Americans are thinking, because the governors of the 50 states, on a bipartisan basis, unanimously came out for the principles that are in my bill. If you take an X-ray of my bill, you'd see a skeleton, and they basically endorsed that skeleton. Now, they were tactful enough not to mention my bill's name, at least not while they were around the White House, but that's a more powerful endorsement probably than the Business Roundtable endorsement.
A look at the growing concern over healthcare reform—with Representative Jim Cooper, Senator Jay Rockefeller, and Norman Ornstein of the American Enterprise Institute. Journalists Mary Matalin and Jane Wallace on their nightly CNBC news show, "Equal Time."
https://charlierose.com/videos/20963
Charlie Rose: Welcome to our broadcast from PBS station WETA in Washington. Tonight, a look at the growing battle over health care, with Democratic Congressman Jim Cooper and Democratic Senator Jay Rockefeller. Then we'll talk capital politics with election consultant and broadcast commentator Norm Ornstein, and we'll have the stars of 01:00Cnbc's Equal Time: We begin with health care. The President's plan has met opposition from many quarters. One of those opponents happens to be in the Democratic Party. Jim Cooper of Tennessee has introduced his own alternative health plan, which yesterday was endorsed by the Business Roundtable, representing 200 of the nation's largest companies. He joins us today from the House Gallery in the Capitol. Congressman Cooper, thank you for joining us. Rep. 01:28 Jim Cooper: Thank you, Charlie, delighted to be with you. 01:33Charlie Rose: Why do you think the Business Roundtable came to the decision to use your plan, endorse your plan, as the starting point, and what do they mean by that? I say that knowing you're not a spokesman for them, but clearly, there's been some communication with you, and I say that noting that their vote came after intense lobbying by the President and Hillary Rodham Clinton. Rep. 01:52 Jim Cooper: Well, first of all, you should realize our bills are very similar. The White House bill and my bill have a lot in common, and we're very proud of that. In fact, I sometimes call my bill Clinton Light, tastes great, less filling. We achieve most of the President's and First Lady's goals without the high cost and without the big bureaucracy. 02:09Charlie Rose: You'll allow that they have a different definition of the distinction between your plan and his plan, or their plan. Rep. 02:18 Jim Cooper: But let's not confuse things. If you look at all the bills in Congress -- and these are long and complicated bills, the President's bill alone is 1,364 pages long, ours is only 292 pages long and ours is still a long bill -- if you look at all the bills, there is no bill in Congress closer to the President's bill than my bill. I'm proud of that. Now, some of the differences are worth discussing, and we've had a lively debate on that already. 02:39Charlie Rose: But let me, before you even tell me the differences, why did you not-- you have been in Congress how long? Rep. 02:47 Jim Cooper: This is my 12th year right now. 02:50Charlie Rose: You're not a senior member of the committee. Secondly, you are running for the Senate, for the Democratic nomination, and expect to have the Democratic nomination and run against Fred Thompson, assuming he's the Republican nominee, for the Senate seat vacated by Senator Gore. What got you so enmeshed in health care, and what led you to this battle that puts you in the forefront of the debate? Rep. 03:13 Jim Cooper: Well, every family is the same. Every family has health care problems. My own father died when I was 14, when he finally lost a 30-year battle with cancer. I have a 101-year-old great-aunt who happens to live in New York, actually, who's healthy as can be. I have a 77-year-old uncle who's got Alzheimer's so bad he can't remember his own name. My own son, who's just two years old, had a terrible health problem, and finally we figured it out, right in the nick of time. But it's also an important problem with everybody. Everywhere I've gone for 12 years, people have had health problems and they've come to me and they've said, ''Jim, we need help.'' And the only ideas really discussed in Washington for decades, ever since Harry Truman and Richard Nixon, have been the ideas of government takeover of health care, which I don't like, and the idea that the boss should pay all of the costs of health care, which is just cost-shifting, not cost reduction. So I set about looking for market-oriented reform, a way of holding down health care costs by putting the customer first, by having real marketplace reform. That idea was introduced three years ago, long before there was ever a Senate possibility, and I've just stayed consistent with my approach and it's catching on like wildfire right now. 04:17Charlie Rose: Well, you said that the good news keeps on going. George Stephanopoulos yesterday expressed disappointment in the vote of the business group Roundtable, and clearly the administration is paying attention to that vote for reasons we're not sure, but nevertheless, they're paying attention, and he said, Mr. Stephanopoulos, the senior adviser, said it was a vote unfortunately led and influenced by the insurance interests and others who are wedded to the status quo. Rep. 04:42 Jim Cooper: Well, I couldn't help but notice in the intro to your show I think a help insurance plan helps fund this very show, so insurance interests are out there, and we need to acknowledge those. But guess what? The number one insurance priority is what's first and foremost in the Clinton plan, which is a law passed by Congress that would require every American to buy a health insurance product. Insurance companies love that. It's important not to get into that debate about who's the best friends with insurance companies or who's not. I've taken on the insurance companies big-time and I'm proud of it. The key thing is substance. What will really be good medicine back home all across America for the American people? And you hit on it earlier. You said you weren't sure quite why the White House had made the Business Roundtable vote so important. I'm not really sure it's that important. These are nice folks, some 80 or maybe 200 of them, but what really matters is what regular folks think back home, and I think the governors' vote earlier this week was a far greater indication of what average Americans are thinking, because the governors of the 50 states, on a bipartisan basis, unanimously came out for the principles that are in my bill. If you take an X-ray of my bill, you'd see a skeleton, and they basically endorsed that skeleton. Now, they were tactful enough not to mention my bill's name, at least not while they were around the White House, but that's a more powerful endorsement probably than the Business Roundtable endorsement.
https://charlierose.com/videos/20963
25 March 2018 06:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thursday 04/15/1993
Senator Jay Rockefeller explains the need for health care reform and why the Clinton proposal will help. AIDS activist Elizabeth Glaser, who contracted AIDS from a blood transfusion, shares her message and promotes AIDS research through her foundation, The Pediatric Aids Foundation. Helen Gurley Brown and her husband David discuss the success of Cosmopolitan Magazine and her new book, "The Late Show: A Semiwild but Practical Survival Plan for Women Over 50."
https://charlierose.com/videos/28684
Charlie Rose: Welcome to our broadcast. Tonight Senator Jay Rockefeller will be here. He is here. We'll have a look at the politics of healthcare and of children and of poverty. Also joining me will be AIDS activist Elizabeth Glaser. She is founder of the Pediatric Aids Foundation. Also David and Helen Gurly Brown. She is the editor of Cosmopolitan Magazine, and he is an Academy Award winning producer. First, the story of Senator Jay Rockefeller, Democrat from West Virginia, is well known. Born into one of America's wealthiest families. He attended Harvard and lived in Japan. He worked as a VISTA volunteer in West Virginia and decided to stay. He later became governor and then senator. Senator Rockefeller has been the leading spokesman for health care reform in the Senate. He joins us now for a conversation about that and his other primary legislative interest, the welfare of children. I'm very pleased to welcome him. Good to have you here. 01:24Jay Rockefeller: Thank you, Charlie. 01:26Charlie Rose: My pleasure. Let me talk first about health care and what do you think this Clinton Task Force is doing and what are they going to come up with. We're beginning to get some leaks out about Value Added Tax and this kind of sales tax to pay for it. Give us a primer in terms of where you think it's going. 01:46Jay Rockefeller: First of all, it's the most honorable overwhelming attempt, effective attempt I think, to produce good legislation. You got to understand that reforming health care has never been done. A legislation is going to be the most complex, the most difficult, the most controversial in the history of the United States Congress, and I'm not exaggerating. They have 500 people working now for 4 months, nonstop, 7 days a week to present hundreds of options to the President and the First Lady. 02:15Charlie Rose: Before we talk about this substantial topic, let me retrace what you just said. The most difficult, why? 02:22Jay Rockefeller: The doctors aren't going to like part of it, the insurance companies aren't going to like a lot of it, the lawyers aren't going to like some of the Tort reform. Small businesses doesn't like to have government telling them what to do. Big business isn't going to like taxes. Consumers are going to have to pay something. The whole system gets moved around. Everybody's kind of comfortable, even though they're angry about health care in general, they're sort of satisfied about their own, if they have health insurance. In a sense you're taking a big part of people's lives, 1 out of every 7 dollars in the American economy, and turning them all upside down. 02:54Charlie Rose: So you've got that bloody fight taking place over competing interest. 03:00Jay Rockefeller: And all of it has to be done, passed, all of the legislation passed by, I say, December 22nd of this year. Which gives us 2 days for Christmas shopping. 03:07Charlie Rose: You think it will happen this year? 03:09Jay Rockefeller: Yeah, I do. 03:11Charlie Rose: You really think there's that much momentum and that much pressure from the American public, who's saying, we believe there's the body of politic has reached a certain critical mass so that they're demanding you and the President fix health care? 03:25Jay Rockefeller: You got it. The people want the federal government to do it, even as they're saying we don't trust the federal government to implement it, because people don't trust government in America. They know they've got a disaster on their hands. They know that the cost of health care is only going out of control. We're going to spend a trillion dollars next year. Two trillion dollars in 6 years. The country's going to shut down because of health care. Whatever Bill Clinton does on the deficit, and I'm supporting him on it, it will not work unless we do health care reform and contain the cost of health care.
Senator Jay Rockefeller explains the need for health care reform and why the Clinton proposal will help. AIDS activist Elizabeth Glaser, who contracted AIDS from a blood transfusion, shares her message and promotes AIDS research through her foundation, The Pediatric Aids Foundation. Helen Gurley Brown and her husband David discuss the success of Cosmopolitan Magazine and her new book, "The Late Show: A Semiwild but Practical Survival Plan for Women Over 50."
https://charlierose.com/videos/28684
Charlie Rose: Welcome to our broadcast. Tonight Senator Jay Rockefeller will be here. He is here. We'll have a look at the politics of healthcare and of children and of poverty. Also joining me will be AIDS activist Elizabeth Glaser. She is founder of the Pediatric Aids Foundation. Also David and Helen Gurly Brown. She is the editor of Cosmopolitan Magazine, and he is an Academy Award winning producer. First, the story of Senator Jay Rockefeller, Democrat from West Virginia, is well known. Born into one of America's wealthiest families. He attended Harvard and lived in Japan. He worked as a VISTA volunteer in West Virginia and decided to stay. He later became governor and then senator. Senator Rockefeller has been the leading spokesman for health care reform in the Senate. He joins us now for a conversation about that and his other primary legislative interest, the welfare of children. I'm very pleased to welcome him. Good to have you here. 01:24Jay Rockefeller: Thank you, Charlie. 01:26Charlie Rose: My pleasure. Let me talk first about health care and what do you think this Clinton Task Force is doing and what are they going to come up with. We're beginning to get some leaks out about Value Added Tax and this kind of sales tax to pay for it. Give us a primer in terms of where you think it's going. 01:46Jay Rockefeller: First of all, it's the most honorable overwhelming attempt, effective attempt I think, to produce good legislation. You got to understand that reforming health care has never been done. A legislation is going to be the most complex, the most difficult, the most controversial in the history of the United States Congress, and I'm not exaggerating. They have 500 people working now for 4 months, nonstop, 7 days a week to present hundreds of options to the President and the First Lady. 02:15Charlie Rose: Before we talk about this substantial topic, let me retrace what you just said. The most difficult, why? 02:22Jay Rockefeller: The doctors aren't going to like part of it, the insurance companies aren't going to like a lot of it, the lawyers aren't going to like some of the Tort reform. Small businesses doesn't like to have government telling them what to do. Big business isn't going to like taxes. Consumers are going to have to pay something. The whole system gets moved around. Everybody's kind of comfortable, even though they're angry about health care in general, they're sort of satisfied about their own, if they have health insurance. In a sense you're taking a big part of people's lives, 1 out of every 7 dollars in the American economy, and turning them all upside down. 02:54Charlie Rose: So you've got that bloody fight taking place over competing interest. 03:00Jay Rockefeller: And all of it has to be done, passed, all of the legislation passed by, I say, December 22nd of this year. Which gives us 2 days for Christmas shopping. 03:07Charlie Rose: You think it will happen this year? 03:09Jay Rockefeller: Yeah, I do. 03:11Charlie Rose: You really think there's that much momentum and that much pressure from the American public, who's saying, we believe there's the body of politic has reached a certain critical mass so that they're demanding you and the President fix health care? 03:25Jay Rockefeller: You got it. The people want the federal government to do it, even as they're saying we don't trust the federal government to implement it, because people don't trust government in America. They know they've got a disaster on their hands. They know that the cost of health care is only going out of control. We're going to spend a trillion dollars next year. Two trillion dollars in 6 years. The country's going to shut down because of health care. Whatever Bill Clinton does on the deficit, and I'm supporting him on it, it will not work unless we do health care reform and contain the cost of health care.
https://charlierose.com/videos/28684
25 March 2018 06:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tuesday 10/08/2013
Journalists Mark Lander, Major Garrett, Chuck Todd and Al Hunt discuss the eighth day of the government shutdown and predict a resolution. Author Margaret Atwood shares her experience with social media and writing her new book, "MaddAddam." Eileen Rockefeller, the great-granddaughter of John D. Rockefeller, examines her childhood and what it meant to be part of American royalty in her book, "Being A Rockefeller, Becoming Myself."
https://charlierose.com/videos/24416
Barack Obama: My suggestion to the Speaker has been and will continue to be let's stop the excuses. Let's take a vote in the House. Let's end this shutdown right now. Let's put people back to work. There are enough reasonable Republicans and Democrats in the House who are willing to vote "yes" on a budget that the Senate has already passed. That vote can take place today. 00:38Charlie Rose: It is day eight of the U.S. government shutdown. President Obama spoke at the White House this afternoon. He urged House Republicans to pass a clean funding bill to reopen the government. He also used tough language to criticize their tactics. 00:53Barack Obama: The point is I think not only the White House but also Democrats in the Senate and Democrats in the House have shown more than ample willingness to talk about any issues that the Republicans are concerned about. But we can't do it if the entire basis of the Republican strategy is "We're going to shutdown the government or cause economic chaos if we don't get 100 percent of what we want." 01:18Charlie Rose: Speaker Boehner responded after the President's press conference. He argued that the debt limit had been fair game for negotiations in the past. Also stressed that talks are to start today. 01:31Rep. John Boehner (R Oh): We can't raise the debt ceiling without doing something about what's driving us to borrow more money and to live beyond our means. The idea that we should continue to spend money that we don't have and give the bill to our kids and our grandkids, would be wrong. That isn't about me and frankly, it's not about Republicans. This is about saving the future for our kids and our grandkids. And the only way this is going to happen is to, in fact, have a conversation. So it's time to have that conversation. Not next week, not next month. The conversation ought to start today. 02:07Charlie Rose: Joining me now from the White House, Major Garrett, he is chief White House correspondent for CBS News; also in Washington, Chuck Todd, chief White House correspondent for NBC News; and Albert Hunt, columnist in for Bloomberg View; joining us shortly, Mark Landler a White House correspondent for "The New York Times." Welcome one and all. Let me just start. Albert, to you and then Chuck and then Major Garrett. Did the President say anything new today and has anything changed -- Albert? 02:35Al Hunt: Well, no, I don't think he really did, Charlie, except perhaps he made people slightly more aware of the stakes, which are humongous. You know I've been in this town for a long time and I've watched some pretty bad things: the impeachment of Clinton which was really a fiasco, a couple of government shutdowns. We are headed potentially for something that's so much worse than anything we've ever seen. The shutdown itself is a Little League Baseball game compared to the World Series of fiascos if they let this debt ceiling, if they tolerate it to fall. I -- all my reporting can't come up with an end game. I still think it won't happen and I think any kind of end game you come up with is only going to kick the can down the road on these other issues. But I think right now we are headed for a potential political and economic cataclysm unless somebody gets wiser the next seven days. 03:28Charlie Rose: Chuck? 03:31 Chuck Todd: Well, Charlie, there was one thing the President did is he put himself out there supporting something that I know that both Major and I have been hearing over the last couple of days which is the President will support anything Boehner sends him that is quote/unquote "clean", you know, without any of those extraneous politically-charged amendments on both a spending bill and a debt limit and he'll take it for any length of time -- so six weeks, eight weeks, something very short term. President very explicit that he'd be willing to sign that and then essentially agree that in that six-week period they'd be locked in some form of negotiations. He even got into the -- so he sort of outlined what he was willing to say which could be, arguably, a compromise. What was astounding to me is Boehner took that offer and called that -- agreeing to that unconditional surrender. So while I was somewhat optimistic that the President was at least painting the kick the can down the road end game scenario that Albert was just referring to there, Boehner's response to it tells you that maybe we should have no hope that this is going to end the way we all thought it was going to end. 04:41Charlie Rose: Major? 04:44 Major Garrett: Well, Charlie, what we have is a disagreement about how to talk and when to talk. Both sides say they're willing to talk. John Boehner has now reduced his sum total of demands from House Republicans to a conversation; a conversation that has no known or defined conclusion, just a conversation. That's a pretty flexible definition of what Republicans would agree to. The President said he's willing to negotiate about a broad number of topics, even changes to his beloved health care law. So both sides have staked out positions that are negotiable if in fact, they want to find a resolution. 05:18
Journalists Mark Lander, Major Garrett, Chuck Todd and Al Hunt discuss the eighth day of the government shutdown and predict a resolution. Author Margaret Atwood shares her experience with social media and writing her new book, "MaddAddam." Eileen Rockefeller, the great-granddaughter of John D. Rockefeller, examines her childhood and what it meant to be part of American royalty in her book, "Being A Rockefeller, Becoming Myself."
https://charlierose.com/videos/24416
Barack Obama: My suggestion to the Speaker has been and will continue to be let's stop the excuses. Let's take a vote in the House. Let's end this shutdown right now. Let's put people back to work. There are enough reasonable Republicans and Democrats in the House who are willing to vote "yes" on a budget that the Senate has already passed. That vote can take place today. 00:38Charlie Rose: It is day eight of the U.S. government shutdown. President Obama spoke at the White House this afternoon. He urged House Republicans to pass a clean funding bill to reopen the government. He also used tough language to criticize their tactics. 00:53Barack Obama: The point is I think not only the White House but also Democrats in the Senate and Democrats in the House have shown more than ample willingness to talk about any issues that the Republicans are concerned about. But we can't do it if the entire basis of the Republican strategy is "We're going to shutdown the government or cause economic chaos if we don't get 100 percent of what we want." 01:18Charlie Rose: Speaker Boehner responded after the President's press conference. He argued that the debt limit had been fair game for negotiations in the past. Also stressed that talks are to start today. 01:31Rep. John Boehner (R Oh): We can't raise the debt ceiling without doing something about what's driving us to borrow more money and to live beyond our means. The idea that we should continue to spend money that we don't have and give the bill to our kids and our grandkids, would be wrong. That isn't about me and frankly, it's not about Republicans. This is about saving the future for our kids and our grandkids. And the only way this is going to happen is to, in fact, have a conversation. So it's time to have that conversation. Not next week, not next month. The conversation ought to start today. 02:07Charlie Rose: Joining me now from the White House, Major Garrett, he is chief White House correspondent for CBS News; also in Washington, Chuck Todd, chief White House correspondent for NBC News; and Albert Hunt, columnist in for Bloomberg View; joining us shortly, Mark Landler a White House correspondent for "The New York Times." Welcome one and all. Let me just start. Albert, to you and then Chuck and then Major Garrett. Did the President say anything new today and has anything changed -- Albert? 02:35Al Hunt: Well, no, I don't think he really did, Charlie, except perhaps he made people slightly more aware of the stakes, which are humongous. You know I've been in this town for a long time and I've watched some pretty bad things: the impeachment of Clinton which was really a fiasco, a couple of government shutdowns. We are headed potentially for something that's so much worse than anything we've ever seen. The shutdown itself is a Little League Baseball game compared to the World Series of fiascos if they let this debt ceiling, if they tolerate it to fall. I -- all my reporting can't come up with an end game. I still think it won't happen and I think any kind of end game you come up with is only going to kick the can down the road on these other issues. But I think right now we are headed for a potential political and economic cataclysm unless somebody gets wiser the next seven days. 03:28Charlie Rose: Chuck? 03:31 Chuck Todd: Well, Charlie, there was one thing the President did is he put himself out there supporting something that I know that both Major and I have been hearing over the last couple of days which is the President will support anything Boehner sends him that is quote/unquote "clean", you know, without any of those extraneous politically-charged amendments on both a spending bill and a debt limit and he'll take it for any length of time -- so six weeks, eight weeks, something very short term. President very explicit that he'd be willing to sign that and then essentially agree that in that six-week period they'd be locked in some form of negotiations. He even got into the -- so he sort of outlined what he was willing to say which could be, arguably, a compromise. What was astounding to me is Boehner took that offer and called that -- agreeing to that unconditional surrender. So while I was somewhat optimistic that the President was at least painting the kick the can down the road end game scenario that Albert was just referring to there, Boehner's response to it tells you that maybe we should have no hope that this is going to end the way we all thought it was going to end. 04:41Charlie Rose: Major? 04:44 Major Garrett: Well, Charlie, what we have is a disagreement about how to talk and when to talk. Both sides say they're willing to talk. John Boehner has now reduced his sum total of demands from House Republicans to a conversation; a conversation that has no known or defined conclusion, just a conversation. That's a pretty flexible definition of what Republicans would agree to. The President said he's willing to negotiate about a broad number of topics, even changes to his beloved health care law. So both sides have staked out positions that are negotiable if in fact, they want to find a resolution. 05:18
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25 March 2018 06:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Monday 01/16/1995
Fred Graham of Court TV reports on the rift between O. J. Simpson lawyers F. Lee Bailey and Robert Shapiro, who are both vying for greater publicity. Henry Hampton and Terry Kay Rockefeller, producers of the documentary series "America's War on Poverty" on PBS, share the history surrounding their project and its implications today. Joseph A. Califano, Jr., president of the Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse and former US Secretary of Health, shares his thoughts on health care and reflects on his time in Washington.
https://charlierose.com/videos/24401
Charlie Rose: Welcome to the broadcast. Tonight, a look forward to the opening arguments in the O.J. Simpson trial with Court Television's Fred Graham in Los Angeles. Later in the broadcast, documentary filmmakers Henry Hampton and Terry Kay Rockefeller join us for a conversation about their series, America's War on Poverty, which is on 00:57Pbs This Week. And Former Secretary Of Hew: Shapiro vs. Bailey 00:59Charlie Rose: Joining us now from Los Angeles is Fred Graham. He is with Court Television, and we are pleased to be able to talk to him this evening because of their assistance. Fred, thank you for joining us. 01:12Fred Graham: Charlie, it's my pleasure. 01:14Charlie Rose: This is the opening week, but there's a lot of news over the weekend. Tell me, as a lawyer and as an observer of this trial, what it means that there is a fight within the defense team. 01:25Fred Graham: Well, Charlie, this trial is sui generis, as-- 01:28Charlie Rose: Yes, it is. 01:30Fred Graham: --as lawyers say. It's unlike anything else that's ever happened before. It's a media event; maybe it's not the trial of the century. A lot of trials have been called that, a few anyway. But millions of people around the world will be watching it on television, and it does appear that a struggle for face time has broken out within, within the defense team, and then over the weekend, broke into the open in this form. It's between two old friends and colleagues -- Robert Shapiro and F. Lee Bailey, the famed defense lawyer, and Shapiro has gone public now with allegations that F. Lee Bailey was leaking stories to the press-- derogatory-- of Robert Shapiro in an effort to elbow him out of the limelight so-- and so that Bailey could take a larger role in the trial. 02:14Charlie Rose: And how will they resolve this? I mean, clearly it's detrimental to O.J. Simpson to have that kind of conflict taking place. 02:22Fred Graham: Well, I'm-- 02:24Charlie Rose: If they're not speaking to each other-- if they're not. 02:29Fred Graham: Well, Shapiro seemed to be saying over the weekend, ''Look, it's either him or me,'' and he called upon Johnnie Cochran, who is the other lead attorney in the case, to take action and to get rid of F. Lee Bailey. I suspect that that may not happen. You know, I think Judge Ito would have to approve the the withdrawal of an attorney at this stage, and they would have to give some explanations that I just think nobody wants to hear in open court. I may be wrong about that. But it would be very difficult at this point. I-- and I think they're going to paper this over. But as you just pointed out, Shapiro was saying, ''I don't want to talk to that man. I don't want to be in the same car with that man. I don't want him in my office.'' So it's going to certainly be strained, to say the least. 03:11Charlie Rose: Yeah. What about the new revelation about what the blood evidence inside the Bronco, the Bronco may say? 03:17Fred Graham: You know, I don't even know about it, Charlie. You're ahead of me on that one.
Fred Graham of Court TV reports on the rift between O. J. Simpson lawyers F. Lee Bailey and Robert Shapiro, who are both vying for greater publicity. Henry Hampton and Terry Kay Rockefeller, producers of the documentary series "America's War on Poverty" on PBS, share the history surrounding their project and its implications today. Joseph A. Califano, Jr., president of the Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse and former US Secretary of Health, shares his thoughts on health care and reflects on his time in Washington.
https://charlierose.com/videos/24401
Charlie Rose: Welcome to the broadcast. Tonight, a look forward to the opening arguments in the O.J. Simpson trial with Court Television's Fred Graham in Los Angeles. Later in the broadcast, documentary filmmakers Henry Hampton and Terry Kay Rockefeller join us for a conversation about their series, America's War on Poverty, which is on 00:57Pbs This Week. And Former Secretary Of Hew: Shapiro vs. Bailey 00:59Charlie Rose: Joining us now from Los Angeles is Fred Graham. He is with Court Television, and we are pleased to be able to talk to him this evening because of their assistance. Fred, thank you for joining us. 01:12Fred Graham: Charlie, it's my pleasure. 01:14Charlie Rose: This is the opening week, but there's a lot of news over the weekend. Tell me, as a lawyer and as an observer of this trial, what it means that there is a fight within the defense team. 01:25Fred Graham: Well, Charlie, this trial is sui generis, as-- 01:28Charlie Rose: Yes, it is. 01:30Fred Graham: --as lawyers say. It's unlike anything else that's ever happened before. It's a media event; maybe it's not the trial of the century. A lot of trials have been called that, a few anyway. But millions of people around the world will be watching it on television, and it does appear that a struggle for face time has broken out within, within the defense team, and then over the weekend, broke into the open in this form. It's between two old friends and colleagues -- Robert Shapiro and F. Lee Bailey, the famed defense lawyer, and Shapiro has gone public now with allegations that F. Lee Bailey was leaking stories to the press-- derogatory-- of Robert Shapiro in an effort to elbow him out of the limelight so-- and so that Bailey could take a larger role in the trial. 02:14Charlie Rose: And how will they resolve this? I mean, clearly it's detrimental to O.J. Simpson to have that kind of conflict taking place. 02:22Fred Graham: Well, I'm-- 02:24Charlie Rose: If they're not speaking to each other-- if they're not. 02:29Fred Graham: Well, Shapiro seemed to be saying over the weekend, ''Look, it's either him or me,'' and he called upon Johnnie Cochran, who is the other lead attorney in the case, to take action and to get rid of F. Lee Bailey. I suspect that that may not happen. You know, I think Judge Ito would have to approve the the withdrawal of an attorney at this stage, and they would have to give some explanations that I just think nobody wants to hear in open court. I may be wrong about that. But it would be very difficult at this point. I-- and I think they're going to paper this over. But as you just pointed out, Shapiro was saying, ''I don't want to talk to that man. I don't want to be in the same car with that man. I don't want him in my office.'' So it's going to certainly be strained, to say the least. 03:11Charlie Rose: Yeah. What about the new revelation about what the blood evidence inside the Bronco, the Bronco may say? 03:17Fred Graham: You know, I don't even know about it, Charlie. You're ahead of me on that one.
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25 March 2018 06:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Wednesday 05/05/2004
Senator Rockefeller reacts to President Bush's public apology for the abuse that Iraqi prisoners endured at the hands of American soldiers. Lebanese journalist Hisham Melhem addresses the American abuses of Iraqi prisoners and President Bush's speech. Jonathan Demme on the life and death of Haitian radio journalist and human rights activist Jean L. Dominique, who, with his wife Michèle Montas, courageously fought for democracy in Haiti.
https://charlierose.com/videos/26725
Charlie Rose: President Bush responded today to the outrage over the abuse of Iraqi prisoners at the hands of American soldiers. In an unusual step, he granted interviews to two Arabic language television networks. And here is a part of what he said. 00:29George W. Bush: First, people in Iraq must understand that I view those practices as abhorrent. They must also understand that what took place in that prison does not represent America that I know. The America I know is a compassionate country that believes in freedom. The America I know cares about every individual. The America I know has sent troops into Iraq to promote freedom. We have a presumption of innocence until you're guilty in our system, but the system will be transparent. It will be open, and people will see the results. This is a serious matter. It's a matter that reflects badly on my country. Our citizens in America are appalled by what they saw, just like people in the Middle East are appalled. We share the same deep concerns. And we will find the truth. We will fully investigate. The world will see the investigation, and justice will be served. 01:35Charlie Rose: Joining me now from Washington, Senator John D. Rockefeller. He is the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee. It held a closed-door hearing today on the Iraqi prisoner abuse. And I am especially pleased to have him on this program. Senator Rockefeller-- 01:49John Rockefeller: Thank you, Charlie. 01:51Charlie Rose: -- let me thank you. Let me begin with this. Tell me what you think ought to happen now, not only what the president said, but serious questions are being raised about who knew what when, and if they did know, why didn't they, and if they knew, who did they share it with -- and you pick it up. 02:13John Rockefeller: I want to put it in a larger context first, and I'd be happy to go right to that. But I like what I heard of what the president said. I was in that meeting all afternoon and I didn't hear him actually speak. I liked his tone, and he was speaking, I think, for Americans. And that was -- that was good. The question is, Charlie, is it enough? Is it too late? Is there a larger something that we need to do? And the way I look at it is that the damage here is not just the humiliation of the Iraqi prisoners. That's abhorrent, horrible, and we all feel that way. But none of them were killed, at least in this incident at Abu Ghraib prison. But all of our troops are put at much greater risk because this happened. The United States is put at greater risk of being attacked by various groups because this happened. And the United States, because of this, now has probably legions of new jihadists that have sworn to the cause, if not right away at least in their own minds they've settled that they want to take it out on America because we have -- the worst thing in the Middle East is the concept of humiliation. To go from the great empire that they once were to a part of the world now where there's very little progress, very little hope. There's no jobs. There's no democracy. There is -- you know, regencies (ph). They were humiliated. And a speech from the president is not going to be enough. 04:07Charlie Rose: So what should the president do and what should this country do? 04:12John Rockefeller: I'm searching for that. I'm searching for that. I think there has to be some very, very large symbol. Obviously we are going -- and it's got to be a very powerful symbol. And it's got to somehow resonate with the Arab street. Let me say what I'm thinking about. 04:29Charlie Rose: Go ahead. 04:32John Rockefeller: This doesn't make sense, but this is on the dimension, it's in the ballpark of the kind of thing that I might consider, that the American Army comes in and just bulldozes down the entire prison. It's highly photogenic. It's the end of the prison. It's the end of the torture that Saddam Hussein did there and the end of the instance, the brute brutality that was exercised there under our command. And I'm not -- but the really big thing that has to happen -- and this is a larger subject -- is that I think the president has not been well served by his closest advisers. And I think he has to come to terms with that. I'm talking about the vice president. I'm talking about Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld and some others. And I think he has to come to terms with that, that he has to be willing to listen to other people that have other ideas. It's like there is a closed society which made up its mind and nothing changes. The apology was made, but will anything change? I'm not sure of that. 05:39Charlie Rose: Do you think Rumsfeld should resign? 05:43John Rockefeller: I'm not into the who should resign business, but I'm going to tell you this. The touchstone of democracy is accountability. It hasn't always been that way, but it always should have been that way. And what I mean by that is that somebody steps forward to accept responsibility and they get out. Now, the Japanese, which is not a sort of an apt comparison for this particular moment, they make a practice of that. And they do it in a way which absolves -- the CEO resigns if the company gets in trouble. He doesn't have to be hauled off to court. Somebody has to step forward, or a number of people have to step forward. And it can't be the people who did it. We don't know yet exactly how -- what in the chain of command, where the faults were, but we know that the Department of Defense failed to notify us of this brutality, which took place in October and November. And we didn't find out about it even at a briefing that Don Rumsfeld gave us in a secure room on the very day that "60 Minutes" was running that evening. And he knew that it was going to be announced, and he said not a word to us. 06:56Charlie Rose: But you must -- I mean, what's his explanation for not saying a word to you?
Senator Rockefeller reacts to President Bush's public apology for the abuse that Iraqi prisoners endured at the hands of American soldiers. Lebanese journalist Hisham Melhem addresses the American abuses of Iraqi prisoners and President Bush's speech. Jonathan Demme on the life and death of Haitian radio journalist and human rights activist Jean L. Dominique, who, with his wife Michèle Montas, courageously fought for democracy in Haiti.
https://charlierose.com/videos/26725
Charlie Rose: President Bush responded today to the outrage over the abuse of Iraqi prisoners at the hands of American soldiers. In an unusual step, he granted interviews to two Arabic language television networks. And here is a part of what he said. 00:29George W. Bush: First, people in Iraq must understand that I view those practices as abhorrent. They must also understand that what took place in that prison does not represent America that I know. The America I know is a compassionate country that believes in freedom. The America I know cares about every individual. The America I know has sent troops into Iraq to promote freedom. We have a presumption of innocence until you're guilty in our system, but the system will be transparent. It will be open, and people will see the results. This is a serious matter. It's a matter that reflects badly on my country. Our citizens in America are appalled by what they saw, just like people in the Middle East are appalled. We share the same deep concerns. And we will find the truth. We will fully investigate. The world will see the investigation, and justice will be served. 01:35Charlie Rose: Joining me now from Washington, Senator John D. Rockefeller. He is the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee. It held a closed-door hearing today on the Iraqi prisoner abuse. And I am especially pleased to have him on this program. Senator Rockefeller-- 01:49John Rockefeller: Thank you, Charlie. 01:51Charlie Rose: -- let me thank you. Let me begin with this. Tell me what you think ought to happen now, not only what the president said, but serious questions are being raised about who knew what when, and if they did know, why didn't they, and if they knew, who did they share it with -- and you pick it up. 02:13John Rockefeller: I want to put it in a larger context first, and I'd be happy to go right to that. But I like what I heard of what the president said. I was in that meeting all afternoon and I didn't hear him actually speak. I liked his tone, and he was speaking, I think, for Americans. And that was -- that was good. The question is, Charlie, is it enough? Is it too late? Is there a larger something that we need to do? And the way I look at it is that the damage here is not just the humiliation of the Iraqi prisoners. That's abhorrent, horrible, and we all feel that way. But none of them were killed, at least in this incident at Abu Ghraib prison. But all of our troops are put at much greater risk because this happened. The United States is put at greater risk of being attacked by various groups because this happened. And the United States, because of this, now has probably legions of new jihadists that have sworn to the cause, if not right away at least in their own minds they've settled that they want to take it out on America because we have -- the worst thing in the Middle East is the concept of humiliation. To go from the great empire that they once were to a part of the world now where there's very little progress, very little hope. There's no jobs. There's no democracy. There is -- you know, regencies (ph). They were humiliated. And a speech from the president is not going to be enough. 04:07Charlie Rose: So what should the president do and what should this country do? 04:12John Rockefeller: I'm searching for that. I'm searching for that. I think there has to be some very, very large symbol. Obviously we are going -- and it's got to be a very powerful symbol. And it's got to somehow resonate with the Arab street. Let me say what I'm thinking about. 04:29Charlie Rose: Go ahead. 04:32John Rockefeller: This doesn't make sense, but this is on the dimension, it's in the ballpark of the kind of thing that I might consider, that the American Army comes in and just bulldozes down the entire prison. It's highly photogenic. It's the end of the prison. It's the end of the torture that Saddam Hussein did there and the end of the instance, the brute brutality that was exercised there under our command. And I'm not -- but the really big thing that has to happen -- and this is a larger subject -- is that I think the president has not been well served by his closest advisers. And I think he has to come to terms with that. I'm talking about the vice president. I'm talking about Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld and some others. And I think he has to come to terms with that, that he has to be willing to listen to other people that have other ideas. It's like there is a closed society which made up its mind and nothing changes. The apology was made, but will anything change? I'm not sure of that. 05:39Charlie Rose: Do you think Rumsfeld should resign? 05:43John Rockefeller: I'm not into the who should resign business, but I'm going to tell you this. The touchstone of democracy is accountability. It hasn't always been that way, but it always should have been that way. And what I mean by that is that somebody steps forward to accept responsibility and they get out. Now, the Japanese, which is not a sort of an apt comparison for this particular moment, they make a practice of that. And they do it in a way which absolves -- the CEO resigns if the company gets in trouble. He doesn't have to be hauled off to court. Somebody has to step forward, or a number of people have to step forward. And it can't be the people who did it. We don't know yet exactly how -- what in the chain of command, where the faults were, but we know that the Department of Defense failed to notify us of this brutality, which took place in October and November. And we didn't find out about it even at a briefing that Don Rumsfeld gave us in a secure room on the very day that "60 Minutes" was running that evening. And he knew that it was going to be announced, and he said not a word to us. 06:56Charlie Rose: But you must -- I mean, what's his explanation for not saying a word to you?
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25 March 2018 06:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thursday 09/17/2009
Senator Jay Rockefeller debates health care reform in America and the importance of a public option for health insurance. Actor Charlize Theron and director Guillermo Arriaga talk about their film, "The Burning Plain."
https://charlierose.com/videos/26725
Charlie Rose: We begin this evening with the ongoing debate over health care reform. President Obama today attended a rally of mostly young people at the University of Maryland in College Park. It was the administration's latest effort to restore public support for a Democratic overhaul of the health care system. The president had said Congress had taken meaningful steps towards reform. 00:42Barack Obama: The good news is we are now closer to reform than we've ever been. After debating the issue for the better part of a year, there's now agreement in Congress on about 80 percent of what needs to be done. Four out of five committees in Congress have completed their work. Yesterday the Finance Committee under the leadership of Max Baucus put out its own bill. Each bill has its strengths, and there are a lot of similarities between them. And our overall efforts have been supported by an unprecedented coalition of hospitals and seniors groups, businesses, drug companies even. Most importantly drugs -- doctors and nurses are supporting this effort. (APPLAUSE) I've also said that one of the options in the insurance exchange should be a public insurance option. (APPLAUSE) Let me be clear it, let me be clear, it would only be an option. No one would be forced to choose it. No one with insurance would be affected by it. But what it would do is provide more choice and more competition and put pressure on private insurers to make their policies affordable and treat their customers better. 01:53Charlie Rose: One of the supporters of a public option is Senator Jay Rockefeller, Democrat of West Virginia. He joins me now from Washington one day after he met with the president to insist that a government-run or be included in a reform bill, and also after time and meetings he just came from about health care reform. So I'm pleased to have him at this moment. Welcome. 02:15 Jay Rockefeller: Thank you, Charlie, very much. 02:17Charlie Rose: Tell me where we are at this moment as we record this interview for tonight's broadcast at 7:28. 02:23 Jay Rockefeller: We're not there yet. The 80 percent that the president mentioned may be a little bit high right now. That's maybe a little bit too optimistic. But the meeting we had this afternoon lasted for a number of hours was the first one we've had, just Democrats, because no Republicans are voting for bill, and we hoping we get Olympia Snowe, there was more of a sense that we are all in this together. And as I've always felt, when we get closer to actually having to vote rather than just give speeches, you tend to focus more, and then you tend to think in terms of the people of your state more, not so much just about health care policy, but how it affects individual people and the faces that come before you. And I think you do a better job of legislating. Now, that's very optimistic to say. But see the works during the amendment process. The amendment process in the Finance Committee is going to have to be substantial and it's going to have to be successful to make the bill substantially better than it is. 03:23Charlie Rose: You're not happy with the Baucas recommendations? 03:28 Jay Rockefeller: No, and I said that, and I said that I wouldn't vote for it as it is today. And other people said that in the meeting. But you see, it isn't what it is today. That is not what matters, that's not what counts. It is what changes you make in the amendment process, and then knowing that you'll have all Republicans, maybe minus one, voting against you that can make it better and make it, hopefully, something that I could vote for because it's a better product. 04:02Charlie Rose: Are you going to vote for a bill that doesn't include a public option? 04:08 Jay Rockefeller: You know, I would be hard-pressed to. I'd be hard- pressed to. And people say -- there's two ways of looking at a public option. One, the president just said very well, and that is that it's not the government taking it over. It's not -- it's just an entity which doesn't get any government money. It has to get money from its premiums from the people who decide to go with it. And it's not going to have any salaries, it doesn't have to make any profit. It's a totally nonprofit insurance company, insurance entity. And that in turn forces, and people will come to understand this more and more as time goes by, that it forces other insurance companies to lower the cost of their insurance. That's the whole point of it. You can't just put another insurance company out there. You have got to put one that doesn't have to make profit, but doesn't have to pay any attention to Wall Street. All it has to do is pay attention to consumers, their needs, and have lower costs. 05:09Charlie Rose: And the quality delivered will be just as good as anything offered by the private companies? 05:13 Jay Rockefeller: Absolutely, or else people won't come and get it. It has to be. The president said that. 05:22Charlie Rose: And what happens if everybody wants it, as some opponents will argue, and it drives the private companies out of business. 05:28 Jay Rockefeller: It will never happen. It will never happen. It's not just the president, but CBO and others have said that the Congressional Budget Office, but he kind of trust, said that it may get as few as 5 percent of insured people when it starts out. Maybe we'll go up to 10 percent. But it will never come close to driving the giant insurance companies out of business. Now I have my moments sometimes when I wish that would happen because of insurance practices. This fellow from Cigna, Wendell Potters, became kind of a folk hero, came before my Congress committee and talked about how their responsibility, and his responsibility too, and he just was sick of it, of purging people from the roles, finding -- and this sounds overdramatic, but it's true -- somebody had acne when they were younger, so therefore they don't qualify for being insured. Things that are horrific and should never happen in America but have always been always under the radar. 06:30Charlie Rose: Is that going to change? 06:33 Jay Rockefeller: You're darn right it's going to have to change, else it's not going to get my vote.
Senator Jay Rockefeller debates health care reform in America and the importance of a public option for health insurance. Actor Charlize Theron and director Guillermo Arriaga talk about their film, "The Burning Plain."
https://charlierose.com/videos/26725
Charlie Rose: We begin this evening with the ongoing debate over health care reform. President Obama today attended a rally of mostly young people at the University of Maryland in College Park. It was the administration's latest effort to restore public support for a Democratic overhaul of the health care system. The president had said Congress had taken meaningful steps towards reform. 00:42Barack Obama: The good news is we are now closer to reform than we've ever been. After debating the issue for the better part of a year, there's now agreement in Congress on about 80 percent of what needs to be done. Four out of five committees in Congress have completed their work. Yesterday the Finance Committee under the leadership of Max Baucus put out its own bill. Each bill has its strengths, and there are a lot of similarities between them. And our overall efforts have been supported by an unprecedented coalition of hospitals and seniors groups, businesses, drug companies even. Most importantly drugs -- doctors and nurses are supporting this effort. (APPLAUSE) I've also said that one of the options in the insurance exchange should be a public insurance option. (APPLAUSE) Let me be clear it, let me be clear, it would only be an option. No one would be forced to choose it. No one with insurance would be affected by it. But what it would do is provide more choice and more competition and put pressure on private insurers to make their policies affordable and treat their customers better. 01:53Charlie Rose: One of the supporters of a public option is Senator Jay Rockefeller, Democrat of West Virginia. He joins me now from Washington one day after he met with the president to insist that a government-run or be included in a reform bill, and also after time and meetings he just came from about health care reform. So I'm pleased to have him at this moment. Welcome. 02:15 Jay Rockefeller: Thank you, Charlie, very much. 02:17Charlie Rose: Tell me where we are at this moment as we record this interview for tonight's broadcast at 7:28. 02:23 Jay Rockefeller: We're not there yet. The 80 percent that the president mentioned may be a little bit high right now. That's maybe a little bit too optimistic. But the meeting we had this afternoon lasted for a number of hours was the first one we've had, just Democrats, because no Republicans are voting for bill, and we hoping we get Olympia Snowe, there was more of a sense that we are all in this together. And as I've always felt, when we get closer to actually having to vote rather than just give speeches, you tend to focus more, and then you tend to think in terms of the people of your state more, not so much just about health care policy, but how it affects individual people and the faces that come before you. And I think you do a better job of legislating. Now, that's very optimistic to say. But see the works during the amendment process. The amendment process in the Finance Committee is going to have to be substantial and it's going to have to be successful to make the bill substantially better than it is. 03:23Charlie Rose: You're not happy with the Baucas recommendations? 03:28 Jay Rockefeller: No, and I said that, and I said that I wouldn't vote for it as it is today. And other people said that in the meeting. But you see, it isn't what it is today. That is not what matters, that's not what counts. It is what changes you make in the amendment process, and then knowing that you'll have all Republicans, maybe minus one, voting against you that can make it better and make it, hopefully, something that I could vote for because it's a better product. 04:02Charlie Rose: Are you going to vote for a bill that doesn't include a public option? 04:08 Jay Rockefeller: You know, I would be hard-pressed to. I'd be hard- pressed to. And people say -- there's two ways of looking at a public option. One, the president just said very well, and that is that it's not the government taking it over. It's not -- it's just an entity which doesn't get any government money. It has to get money from its premiums from the people who decide to go with it. And it's not going to have any salaries, it doesn't have to make any profit. It's a totally nonprofit insurance company, insurance entity. And that in turn forces, and people will come to understand this more and more as time goes by, that it forces other insurance companies to lower the cost of their insurance. That's the whole point of it. You can't just put another insurance company out there. You have got to put one that doesn't have to make profit, but doesn't have to pay any attention to Wall Street. All it has to do is pay attention to consumers, their needs, and have lower costs. 05:09Charlie Rose: And the quality delivered will be just as good as anything offered by the private companies? 05:13 Jay Rockefeller: Absolutely, or else people won't come and get it. It has to be. The president said that. 05:22Charlie Rose: And what happens if everybody wants it, as some opponents will argue, and it drives the private companies out of business. 05:28 Jay Rockefeller: It will never happen. It will never happen. It's not just the president, but CBO and others have said that the Congressional Budget Office, but he kind of trust, said that it may get as few as 5 percent of insured people when it starts out. Maybe we'll go up to 10 percent. But it will never come close to driving the giant insurance companies out of business. Now I have my moments sometimes when I wish that would happen because of insurance practices. This fellow from Cigna, Wendell Potters, became kind of a folk hero, came before my Congress committee and talked about how their responsibility, and his responsibility too, and he just was sick of it, of purging people from the roles, finding -- and this sounds overdramatic, but it's true -- somebody had acne when they were younger, so therefore they don't qualify for being insured. Things that are horrific and should never happen in America but have always been always under the radar. 06:30Charlie Rose: Is that going to change? 06:33 Jay Rockefeller: You're darn right it's going to have to change, else it's not going to get my vote.
https://charlierose.com/videos/26725
25 March 2018 06:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Monday 01/16/1995
Henry Hampton and Terry Kay Rockefeller, producers of the documentary series "America's War on Poverty" on PBS, share the history surrounding their project and its implications today.
https://charlierose.com/videos/12400
00:00Charlie Rose: ''America's War on Poverty'' The documentary series, America's War on Poverty, continues on public television tomorrow and Wednesday nights. Joining me now, Henry Hampton, the founder and president of Blackside, Incorporated, an independent production company. He's the executive producer of America's War on Poverty, as well as the creator of Eyes on the Prize. Also with us, Terry Kay Rockefeller; she is the series producer. They have collaborated before on both Eyes on the Prize and The Great Depression, both award-winning documentaries. I am pleased to have them here. Welcome. It's good to see you again, Terry.
00:34 Terry Kay Rockefeller: Thank you.
00:36Charlie Rose: Great to have you on this broadcast. Tell me what you want to accomplish with this. What, what is the object here? With Eyes on the Prize, it was such a clear sense of what we were doing. What do you hope to accomplish with this? 00:48 Henry Hampton: Well, the beginning of Eyes on the Prize was a simpler time, and-- 00:52Charlie Rose: Yes. 00:53 Henry Hampton: --you could tell stories-- 00:55Charlie Rose: Right. 00:57 Henry Hampton: --that march toward-- the success of the bridge at Selma. This history is more complicated, and the intent really is to get a solid basis in the history of what was the War on Poverty -- because it's often misstated as a welfare program, and it was not -- and to get people on a higher level of discussion because the decisions that are going to be made in the next weeks or months are going to have an enormous impact on the future of the country. So you can't start that with false information about the War. Now, it's very difficult to talk about the War on Poverty without it being demonized. 01:22Charlie Rose: Yeah. 01:25 Henry Hampton: And in fact, there were many successes within the War that we have not recognized yet and that people should know about because they will be very important in the initiation of any kind of future efforts to reduce the scar of poverty. 01:39Charlie Rose: Is it fair to say, though, that the conventional wisdom that the War on Poverty-- while battles were won, the War was lost because poverty continues to exist in such an extraordinary level in this country that is so affluent in so many ways? 01:52 Henry Hampton: If I said to you I was going to go out tomorrow and eliminate poverty in the next 10 years, would you think that a reasonable statement? 01:58Charlie Rose: No. 02:00 Henry Hampton: No, you wouldn't. And I think that was the optimism of the 1960s, when you-- we all thought as a nation we could do almost anything. So suddenly we, we find a group of idealists, pragmatic politicians -- Lyndon Johnson wanting to do something to put himself in history -- and you find that it was literally impossible to collect, organize, fund, implement, review, or analyze -- all the things necessary for a successful program. But if you look at the ground level, if you look at the number of leaders that emerged from that period who have in fact held many communities together because of the skills they learned during the War on Poverty, and if you look at the sense of, of potential that came out of those communities. We have a cultural myopia in this country, which we don't look at poor people as valuable human beings. We look at them as problems. And I think, if anything, we learned in this period that poor people really bring and could bring an enormous amount to the culture. 02:57Charlie Rose: Let me stay with one last point. You said it might be instructive to have this film now because of decisions that are going to be made in the next several weeks. What do you mean by that? 03:09 Henry Hampton: Well, the series was started back in the latter part of the '80s -- '88, '89, we started research -- but it was pure coincidence that it comes to this point when a shift in the Congressional power-- balance of power occurs, and choice will be made about welfare reform -- i.e., and that's a broad notion or a short notion for the broad notion of poverty -- that is the time-- 03:27Charlie Rose: You just said that this was not-- that, that the War on Poverty was not a welfare program. 03:34 Henry Hampton: Right, right. But when all the welfare programs now have been kind of lynched up to that-- 03:41Charlie Rose: Yeah. 03:44 Henry Hampton: --linked to that notion of welfare reform. Some, like Head Start, I think are, are free-standing. People understand them to be different. But the, the use of the-- the business of using-- connecting welfare to all the programs of the, of the War on Poverty -- 04:01Vista: Interesting, too. For the first time, you -- perhaps in your career, Henry -- Eyes on the Prize, everybody applauded it. I mean, we all looked at it and said, ''At long last, you know, someone has put together a chronicle.'' Great Depression got equally attractive comments and laudatory praise about it, and it also did well in terms of the large number of audience-- people in the audience who were watching it. For the first time, some people are saying this documentary, coming as it does now, in a sense, is-- plays into the hands of those people who look at public television for being too liberal, too nostalgic for the liberalism of the past. 04:47 Henry Hampton: Well, I think-- I can't really anticipate all the audience. I know that it's much more diverse than we tend to think of it as being, and I believe that people who lived this history -- thousands, hundreds of thousands of individuals who grew up during this period, for whom the War on Poverty was a major component in their lives, will see this not as nostalgia, but as the a truth of their time. And we are at a point when I think that examination of the truth is more important necessarily than trying to always satisfy or placate or attempt to give people a skewed view of what really happened in a time. So, yes, there is risk, but without risk there is rarely gain. And I'm prepared to take some burdens. Terry had done wonderful work on the series with our other producers, and we are confident that if people give the series a fair hearing and not have it sort of demonized by those critics who don't want to look at any substance for the War, then, you know, I can't anticipate those people. 06:00Charlie Rose: All right. We'll come to what may or may not be in it because, I mean, there is some debate about that, and it's an interesting thing. If this program-- if this series brings to bear a consideration of poverty in America, looking at what's been done in the past and, and brings to bear a healthy debate in America about what ought to be done in the future, regardless of whether it is private initiative or public initiative or programmatic solutions -- whatever it is -- then you have accomplished something very important right now. 06:26 Henry Hampton: Yes. 06:28Charlie Rose: I mean, you talk about welfare reform is one thing that's going to be debated. It's part of the Contract With America. What-- 06:37
Henry Hampton and Terry Kay Rockefeller, producers of the documentary series "America's War on Poverty" on PBS, share the history surrounding their project and its implications today.
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00:00Charlie Rose: ''America's War on Poverty'' The documentary series, America's War on Poverty, continues on public television tomorrow and Wednesday nights. Joining me now, Henry Hampton, the founder and president of Blackside, Incorporated, an independent production company. He's the executive producer of America's War on Poverty, as well as the creator of Eyes on the Prize. Also with us, Terry Kay Rockefeller; she is the series producer. They have collaborated before on both Eyes on the Prize and The Great Depression, both award-winning documentaries. I am pleased to have them here. Welcome. It's good to see you again, Terry.
00:34 Terry Kay Rockefeller: Thank you.
00:36Charlie Rose: Great to have you on this broadcast. Tell me what you want to accomplish with this. What, what is the object here? With Eyes on the Prize, it was such a clear sense of what we were doing. What do you hope to accomplish with this? 00:48 Henry Hampton: Well, the beginning of Eyes on the Prize was a simpler time, and-- 00:52Charlie Rose: Yes. 00:53 Henry Hampton: --you could tell stories-- 00:55Charlie Rose: Right. 00:57 Henry Hampton: --that march toward-- the success of the bridge at Selma. This history is more complicated, and the intent really is to get a solid basis in the history of what was the War on Poverty -- because it's often misstated as a welfare program, and it was not -- and to get people on a higher level of discussion because the decisions that are going to be made in the next weeks or months are going to have an enormous impact on the future of the country. So you can't start that with false information about the War. Now, it's very difficult to talk about the War on Poverty without it being demonized. 01:22Charlie Rose: Yeah. 01:25 Henry Hampton: And in fact, there were many successes within the War that we have not recognized yet and that people should know about because they will be very important in the initiation of any kind of future efforts to reduce the scar of poverty. 01:39Charlie Rose: Is it fair to say, though, that the conventional wisdom that the War on Poverty-- while battles were won, the War was lost because poverty continues to exist in such an extraordinary level in this country that is so affluent in so many ways? 01:52 Henry Hampton: If I said to you I was going to go out tomorrow and eliminate poverty in the next 10 years, would you think that a reasonable statement? 01:58Charlie Rose: No. 02:00 Henry Hampton: No, you wouldn't. And I think that was the optimism of the 1960s, when you-- we all thought as a nation we could do almost anything. So suddenly we, we find a group of idealists, pragmatic politicians -- Lyndon Johnson wanting to do something to put himself in history -- and you find that it was literally impossible to collect, organize, fund, implement, review, or analyze -- all the things necessary for a successful program. But if you look at the ground level, if you look at the number of leaders that emerged from that period who have in fact held many communities together because of the skills they learned during the War on Poverty, and if you look at the sense of, of potential that came out of those communities. We have a cultural myopia in this country, which we don't look at poor people as valuable human beings. We look at them as problems. And I think, if anything, we learned in this period that poor people really bring and could bring an enormous amount to the culture. 02:57Charlie Rose: Let me stay with one last point. You said it might be instructive to have this film now because of decisions that are going to be made in the next several weeks. What do you mean by that? 03:09 Henry Hampton: Well, the series was started back in the latter part of the '80s -- '88, '89, we started research -- but it was pure coincidence that it comes to this point when a shift in the Congressional power-- balance of power occurs, and choice will be made about welfare reform -- i.e., and that's a broad notion or a short notion for the broad notion of poverty -- that is the time-- 03:27Charlie Rose: You just said that this was not-- that, that the War on Poverty was not a welfare program. 03:34 Henry Hampton: Right, right. But when all the welfare programs now have been kind of lynched up to that-- 03:41Charlie Rose: Yeah. 03:44 Henry Hampton: --linked to that notion of welfare reform. Some, like Head Start, I think are, are free-standing. People understand them to be different. But the, the use of the-- the business of using-- connecting welfare to all the programs of the, of the War on Poverty -- 04:01Vista: Interesting, too. For the first time, you -- perhaps in your career, Henry -- Eyes on the Prize, everybody applauded it. I mean, we all looked at it and said, ''At long last, you know, someone has put together a chronicle.'' Great Depression got equally attractive comments and laudatory praise about it, and it also did well in terms of the large number of audience-- people in the audience who were watching it. For the first time, some people are saying this documentary, coming as it does now, in a sense, is-- plays into the hands of those people who look at public television for being too liberal, too nostalgic for the liberalism of the past. 04:47 Henry Hampton: Well, I think-- I can't really anticipate all the audience. I know that it's much more diverse than we tend to think of it as being, and I believe that people who lived this history -- thousands, hundreds of thousands of individuals who grew up during this period, for whom the War on Poverty was a major component in their lives, will see this not as nostalgia, but as the a truth of their time. And we are at a point when I think that examination of the truth is more important necessarily than trying to always satisfy or placate or attempt to give people a skewed view of what really happened in a time. So, yes, there is risk, but without risk there is rarely gain. And I'm prepared to take some burdens. Terry had done wonderful work on the series with our other producers, and we are confident that if people give the series a fair hearing and not have it sort of demonized by those critics who don't want to look at any substance for the War, then, you know, I can't anticipate those people. 06:00Charlie Rose: All right. We'll come to what may or may not be in it because, I mean, there is some debate about that, and it's an interesting thing. If this program-- if this series brings to bear a consideration of poverty in America, looking at what's been done in the past and, and brings to bear a healthy debate in America about what ought to be done in the future, regardless of whether it is private initiative or public initiative or programmatic solutions -- whatever it is -- then you have accomplished something very important right now. 06:26 Henry Hampton: Yes. 06:28Charlie Rose: I mean, you talk about welfare reform is one thing that's going to be debated. It's part of the Contract With America. What-- 06:37
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25 March 2018 06:14
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Friday 06/10/2005
In the wake of France's rejection of the EU constitution, Karsten Voigt of the German Foreign Office stresses the importance of Franco-German cooperation in order to ensure progress. In honor of David Rockefeller's 90th birthday, Charlie presents excerpts from several conversations over the years.
https://charlierose.com/videos/28316
Unknown Speaker: Tonight, Karsten Voigt and David Rockefeller, next. 00:16Charlie Rose: We begin this evening with a conversation about Europe and about Germany in the wake of the vote on the European Union Constitution. Last weekend, German Chancellor Gerhardt Schroeder met with French President Jacques Chirac in Berlin. They focused on finding a way out of the crisis caused by the rejection of the EU Constitution by voters in France and the Netherlands. Germany ratified the constitution in parliament last month. Joining me now is Karsten Voigt. He is the coordinator for German-American relations at the German Foreign Office, and I'm pleased to have him at this table. Welcome. 00:46 Karsten Voigt: Thank you. 00:48Charlie Rose: I keep -- I just returned from Europe, you know, and everybody has a different reason as to why the French voted as they did. You know, they'll say Chirac; they'll say it had to do with 10 percent unemployment; they will say it had to do with Turkey; it had to do with the fear of plumbers from Eastern Europe taking jobs, all those kinds of things. Tell me what it says to you, those two votes, about the idea of Europe and the future of Europe. 01:22 Karsten Voigt: I think that the future is always bright. 01:26Charlie Rose: For individual nations or Europe as a whole? 01:31 Karsten Voigt: For Europe, I think it's bright, and there I'm not so skeptical about it. But I think it says something about France. The French identity is challenged by the process of Europeanization. There was a long time when the Frenchmen thought that Europe would be an enlarged France. And now after the enlargement process of the European Union, it's obvious that Europe will be a different entity. It will neither be an enlarged Germany nor an enlarged France. It will be something different. And many Frenchmen have difficulty in accepting such a process and a different role which they will play inside Europe. 02:18Charlie Rose: So it's about national esteem. 02:20 Karsten Voigt: All -- it's about national esteem, it's about unemployment, it's the mistrust in Chirac -- it's all together, but I think-- 02:26Charlie Rose: And concern that Germany would be at the center of a new Europe. 02:29 Karsten Voigt: I'm not sure whether we would be the center, but we would be one of the important centers in Europe. This was never so much a problem for the French. The problem for the French was more that they wanted, for example, a Europe in which the Germans might be the strongest power economically, but where they might be the political leading force. And no individual country, no individual country in Europe, neither Germany nor France, will, in an enlarged European Union, dominate. 03:00Charlie Rose: My suspicion is that they always thought that Germany and France together would have the dominant voice in Europe. 03:07 Karsten Voigt: But even that is no longer true. The Franco-German cooperation is needed, is absolutely needed to guarantee progress in Europe, but it's a precondition, it's not sufficient. You need to include the British or the Poles or a couple of other countries. So -- and so far, even that is not longer right, and that France and Germany alone can deliver Europe. 03:30Charlie Rose: Others say in France that this was about the social welfare state.
In the wake of France's rejection of the EU constitution, Karsten Voigt of the German Foreign Office stresses the importance of Franco-German cooperation in order to ensure progress. In honor of David Rockefeller's 90th birthday, Charlie presents excerpts from several conversations over the years.
https://charlierose.com/videos/28316
Unknown Speaker: Tonight, Karsten Voigt and David Rockefeller, next. 00:16Charlie Rose: We begin this evening with a conversation about Europe and about Germany in the wake of the vote on the European Union Constitution. Last weekend, German Chancellor Gerhardt Schroeder met with French President Jacques Chirac in Berlin. They focused on finding a way out of the crisis caused by the rejection of the EU Constitution by voters in France and the Netherlands. Germany ratified the constitution in parliament last month. Joining me now is Karsten Voigt. He is the coordinator for German-American relations at the German Foreign Office, and I'm pleased to have him at this table. Welcome. 00:46 Karsten Voigt: Thank you. 00:48Charlie Rose: I keep -- I just returned from Europe, you know, and everybody has a different reason as to why the French voted as they did. You know, they'll say Chirac; they'll say it had to do with 10 percent unemployment; they will say it had to do with Turkey; it had to do with the fear of plumbers from Eastern Europe taking jobs, all those kinds of things. Tell me what it says to you, those two votes, about the idea of Europe and the future of Europe. 01:22 Karsten Voigt: I think that the future is always bright. 01:26Charlie Rose: For individual nations or Europe as a whole? 01:31 Karsten Voigt: For Europe, I think it's bright, and there I'm not so skeptical about it. But I think it says something about France. The French identity is challenged by the process of Europeanization. There was a long time when the Frenchmen thought that Europe would be an enlarged France. And now after the enlargement process of the European Union, it's obvious that Europe will be a different entity. It will neither be an enlarged Germany nor an enlarged France. It will be something different. And many Frenchmen have difficulty in accepting such a process and a different role which they will play inside Europe. 02:18Charlie Rose: So it's about national esteem. 02:20 Karsten Voigt: All -- it's about national esteem, it's about unemployment, it's the mistrust in Chirac -- it's all together, but I think-- 02:26Charlie Rose: And concern that Germany would be at the center of a new Europe. 02:29 Karsten Voigt: I'm not sure whether we would be the center, but we would be one of the important centers in Europe. This was never so much a problem for the French. The problem for the French was more that they wanted, for example, a Europe in which the Germans might be the strongest power economically, but where they might be the political leading force. And no individual country, no individual country in Europe, neither Germany nor France, will, in an enlarged European Union, dominate. 03:00Charlie Rose: My suspicion is that they always thought that Germany and France together would have the dominant voice in Europe. 03:07 Karsten Voigt: But even that is no longer true. The Franco-German cooperation is needed, is absolutely needed to guarantee progress in Europe, but it's a precondition, it's not sufficient. You need to include the British or the Poles or a couple of other countries. So -- and so far, even that is not longer right, and that France and Germany alone can deliver Europe. 03:30Charlie Rose: Others say in France that this was about the social welfare state.
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25 March 2018 06:11
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Tuesday 06/07/1994
Bernice Kert, biographer of philanthropist Abby Aldrich Rockefeller, joins Abby's son David to remember the matriarch of the Rockefeller family.
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00:07Charlie Rose: Abby Aldrich Rockefeller, daughter of Senator Nelson Aldrich of Rhode Island; married John D. Rockefeller, then the richest man in America, in 1901. She helped the Rockefeller family become the political and philanthropic power it is today. She was a founder of the Museum of Modern Art and a supporter of birth control pioneer Margaret Sanger. Joining me now to discuss her extraordinary life are her son, David Rockefeller, and her biographer, Bernice Kert. She is the author of Abby Aldrich Rockefeller: The Woman in the Family. She had previously written about the women arou-- of the Hemingway women. Welcome. It's great to have both of you here. 00:43 David Rockefeller: Thank you. 00:45Charlie Rose: I'll pose questions that either of you can answer, but I-- to read this is to be fascinated by one woman. First of all, this was a marriage-- your-- a great love affair between your father and this person. 00:55 David Rockefeller: No question that's true. 00:57Charlie Rose: You know, they met when he was at Brown, and she was in, in Rhode Island, Providence, yes? 01:02 David Rockefeller: That's true. A hundred years ago. 01:05Charlie Rose: A hundred years ago, 19-- 01:08 David Rockefeller: Just last week, we had the, the do-- grand-- the graduation of my granddaughter, and it was announced that my father-- 01:17Charlie Rose: At Brown, or where? 01:19 David Rockefeller: At Brown. 01:20Charlie Rose: Yes. 01:21 David Rockefeller: And my father had started there a hundred years ago. 01:24 Bernice Kert: She was a town girl. 01:26Charlie Rose: A town girl. Oh, yes, cap and town, between town and gown, or town and gown, yes. 01:30 Bernice Kert: She was a town girl and John was a sophomore at Brown, and they met at a tea, and John had never danced in his life because he came from a very stern-- 01:35Charlie Rose: Yes. 01:37 Bernice Kert: --Baptist family-- 01:38Charlie Rose: Right. 01:40 Bernice Kert: --with a very reclusive, religious mother. And Abby was kind of an open, adventurous, lively young woman, and he said that she treated him as though he had all the poise in the world. They were quite a team.
Bernice Kert, biographer of philanthropist Abby Aldrich Rockefeller, joins Abby's son David to remember the matriarch of the Rockefeller family.
https://charlierose.com/videos/23234
00:07Charlie Rose: Abby Aldrich Rockefeller, daughter of Senator Nelson Aldrich of Rhode Island; married John D. Rockefeller, then the richest man in America, in 1901. She helped the Rockefeller family become the political and philanthropic power it is today. She was a founder of the Museum of Modern Art and a supporter of birth control pioneer Margaret Sanger. Joining me now to discuss her extraordinary life are her son, David Rockefeller, and her biographer, Bernice Kert. She is the author of Abby Aldrich Rockefeller: The Woman in the Family. She had previously written about the women arou-- of the Hemingway women. Welcome. It's great to have both of you here. 00:43 David Rockefeller: Thank you. 00:45Charlie Rose: I'll pose questions that either of you can answer, but I-- to read this is to be fascinated by one woman. First of all, this was a marriage-- your-- a great love affair between your father and this person. 00:55 David Rockefeller: No question that's true. 00:57Charlie Rose: You know, they met when he was at Brown, and she was in, in Rhode Island, Providence, yes? 01:02 David Rockefeller: That's true. A hundred years ago. 01:05Charlie Rose: A hundred years ago, 19-- 01:08 David Rockefeller: Just last week, we had the, the do-- grand-- the graduation of my granddaughter, and it was announced that my father-- 01:17Charlie Rose: At Brown, or where? 01:19 David Rockefeller: At Brown. 01:20Charlie Rose: Yes. 01:21 David Rockefeller: And my father had started there a hundred years ago. 01:24 Bernice Kert: She was a town girl. 01:26Charlie Rose: A town girl. Oh, yes, cap and town, between town and gown, or town and gown, yes. 01:30 Bernice Kert: She was a town girl and John was a sophomore at Brown, and they met at a tea, and John had never danced in his life because he came from a very stern-- 01:35Charlie Rose: Yes. 01:37 Bernice Kert: --Baptist family-- 01:38Charlie Rose: Right. 01:40 Bernice Kert: --with a very reclusive, religious mother. And Abby was kind of an open, adventurous, lively young woman, and he said that she treated him as though he had all the poise in the world. They were quite a team.
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25 March 2018 06:10
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Thursday 03/23/2006
David Rockefeller provides a look inside the Asia Society's exhibit celebrating his family's Asian art collection, "A Passion for Asia." On its 50th anniversary, Asia Society president Vishakha Desai reflects on the Rockefeller family and the history surrounding the Society.
https://charlierose.com/videos/22504
00:00Charlie Rose: This year, the Asia Society is celebrating its 50th anniversary. To mark the occasion, they organized a major exhibit that tells the story of the five generations of the Rockefeller family and their contribution as collectors of Asian art. Entitled "A Passion for Asia: The Rockefeller Family Collects," the exhibit includes 150 sculptures, porcelain, decorative art, paintings, and textiles. Two of the galleries will be open until May 14th, and two others will remain open until September 3rd. I spoke with two people behind this exhibit. One is David Rockefeller, the other is Vishakha Desai, the president of the Asia Society. We began with a conversation with David Rockefeller about himself and his family and their love of Asia. This is what is the archival room, celebrating the 50th anniversary of the Asia Society. 00:53David Rockefeller: Yes. 00:55Charlie Rose: Tell me about the family and the connection, back to your father and your mother, and the connection to Asia. 01:01David Rockefeller: First connection that I remember very vividly was back in 1926. I was only -- yes, it was '26. I was only 11 years old, and my parents took a boat, which you had to in those days because there weren't any planes -- and went to China for the dedication of the Peking Union Medical College, which was the first medical college, or, indeed, really, good hospital, in China. And they went to the opening of it because that had been given by my father. And I remember very well, they were away three months, and I as a child, missed them very much. They came back and brought me a wonderful kimono and other things from China, so that helped. 01:31Charlie Rose: You have said that your mother probably taught you more about art than all of the curators, all the instructors, all the professors. 01:37David Rockefeller: I think she did, both in talking, but perhaps even more in what she had, the beautiful things that she bought from all over the world, and she would tell me about them. 01:45Charlie Rose: And your brother continued this connection to Asia. 01:50David Rockefeller: My brother, John, became very interested in Asia, first on a trip around the world that he took for the man who was head of the Foreign Policy Association, James C. McDonald -- 01:58Charlie Rose: This was right after he got out of Princeton. 02:00David Rockefeller: Right after he got out of Princeton. And they spent several months and went around the world -- of course in those days by boat -- and that impressed him very much. And then, of course, after the war, he took a trip with Mr. John Foster Dulles, who was then secretary of state, to Asia, and that also got him very excited. And then from that, he started both the Asia Society and the Japan society. 02:19Charlie Rose: Asia Society started in 1956, we're now celebrating the 50th anniversary. 02:24David Rockefeller: Yes, maybe the Japan Society first. I mean, I would say -- 02:29Charlie Rose: To broaden it out. 02:33David Rockefeller: Yes, to broaden it out. 02:36Charlie Rose: Has there been more connection with Japan, say, than China in the end because of those early influences? 02:42David Rockefeller: It certainly I think started more with Japan, certainly, but then -- and one reason for that was, in the days of Mao Tse-tung, they weren't very eager to see Americans, and so they went more to Japan. But subsequently have seen a lot of China as well.
David Rockefeller provides a look inside the Asia Society's exhibit celebrating his family's Asian art collection, "A Passion for Asia." On its 50th anniversary, Asia Society president Vishakha Desai reflects on the Rockefeller family and the history surrounding the Society.
https://charlierose.com/videos/22504
00:00Charlie Rose: This year, the Asia Society is celebrating its 50th anniversary. To mark the occasion, they organized a major exhibit that tells the story of the five generations of the Rockefeller family and their contribution as collectors of Asian art. Entitled "A Passion for Asia: The Rockefeller Family Collects," the exhibit includes 150 sculptures, porcelain, decorative art, paintings, and textiles. Two of the galleries will be open until May 14th, and two others will remain open until September 3rd. I spoke with two people behind this exhibit. One is David Rockefeller, the other is Vishakha Desai, the president of the Asia Society. We began with a conversation with David Rockefeller about himself and his family and their love of Asia. This is what is the archival room, celebrating the 50th anniversary of the Asia Society. 00:53David Rockefeller: Yes. 00:55Charlie Rose: Tell me about the family and the connection, back to your father and your mother, and the connection to Asia. 01:01David Rockefeller: First connection that I remember very vividly was back in 1926. I was only -- yes, it was '26. I was only 11 years old, and my parents took a boat, which you had to in those days because there weren't any planes -- and went to China for the dedication of the Peking Union Medical College, which was the first medical college, or, indeed, really, good hospital, in China. And they went to the opening of it because that had been given by my father. And I remember very well, they were away three months, and I as a child, missed them very much. They came back and brought me a wonderful kimono and other things from China, so that helped. 01:31Charlie Rose: You have said that your mother probably taught you more about art than all of the curators, all the instructors, all the professors. 01:37David Rockefeller: I think she did, both in talking, but perhaps even more in what she had, the beautiful things that she bought from all over the world, and she would tell me about them. 01:45Charlie Rose: And your brother continued this connection to Asia. 01:50David Rockefeller: My brother, John, became very interested in Asia, first on a trip around the world that he took for the man who was head of the Foreign Policy Association, James C. McDonald -- 01:58Charlie Rose: This was right after he got out of Princeton. 02:00David Rockefeller: Right after he got out of Princeton. And they spent several months and went around the world -- of course in those days by boat -- and that impressed him very much. And then, of course, after the war, he took a trip with Mr. John Foster Dulles, who was then secretary of state, to Asia, and that also got him very excited. And then from that, he started both the Asia Society and the Japan society. 02:19Charlie Rose: Asia Society started in 1956, we're now celebrating the 50th anniversary. 02:24David Rockefeller: Yes, maybe the Japan Society first. I mean, I would say -- 02:29Charlie Rose: To broaden it out. 02:33David Rockefeller: Yes, to broaden it out. 02:36Charlie Rose: Has there been more connection with Japan, say, than China in the end because of those early influences? 02:42David Rockefeller: It certainly I think started more with Japan, certainly, but then -- and one reason for that was, in the days of Mao Tse-tung, they weren't very eager to see Americans, and so they went more to Japan. But subsequently have seen a lot of China as well.
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25 March 2018 06:08
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Monday 10/21/2002
David Rockefeller, philanthropist and former C.E.O. of Chase Manhattan Bank, shares his autobiography "Memoirs," which documents his life and the history of his legendary family. Early American historian Edmund S. Morgan reflects on the personalities and achievements of the Founding Fathers and shares his latest book, "Benjamin Franklin."
https://charlierose.com/videos/25093
Charlie Rose: : DAVID ROCKEFELLER is here. Born in 1915, he is the grandson of the legendary John D. Rockefeller. In 1946, he began his 35-year career at the Chase Manhattan Bank. As chairman and CEO, he helped establish that bank as one of the world's most powerful financial institutions. He has known every United States president since Eisenhower, has had dealings with world leaders ranging from Khrushchev to Deng Xiaoping. His new autobiography, titled simply Memoirs, tells the story of a remarkable life and a remarkable family. I am pleased to have him back at this table. Welcome back. 00:45David Rockefeller: Thank you very much, Charlie. 00:48Charlie Rose: Yeah. I take-- 00:52David Rockefeller: It's always nice to be with you. 00:54Charlie Rose: I take some pleasure in that some of the things you talk about there we talked about-- 00:57David Rockefeller: That's true. 00:59Charlie Rose: --in an hour conversation we had before. Tell me about trepidation and challenge of writing such an intimate story of family, career, relationships. All that is never easy. 01:09David Rockefeller: That is certainly true, and I think it was both. It did cause some trepidation, and it's certainly a challenge. But I felt that I had had an unusually interesting life, that I'd had chances to meet a broad variety of people all over the world. And I felt, if for no other reason, for my children and descendants, that it might be interesting for them to hear about it. 01:36Charlie Rose: Yeah. 01:39David Rockefeller: And although it was a chore -- took about 10 years to write -- I'm glad I did it. 01:47Charlie Rose: Characterize growing up as the son of John D. Rockefeller, Jr.
01:52 Avid Rockefeller: Well, I was the youngest of six children, and I think that made it a lot easier for me than it was for my sister, who was the oldest, and my brother, John, who was the eldest son and bore the name of John D. Rockefeller III. And on top of that, he was rather shy. And I think for him, it was not an easy experience. I didn't really find it that way. I was aware of the fact that people probably didn't treat me as they would if I had a name that was less well known.
02:25Charlie Rose: You're aware of that. You couldn't miss that.
02:29David Rockefeller: Couldn't miss it. But you get used to it. And what I found was that very quickly, I could tell when people were being open and frank and friends and when people simply wanted to get something. And once you know that, you can be polite with those who have ulterior motives, but not get into trouble.
David Rockefeller, philanthropist and former C.E.O. of Chase Manhattan Bank, shares his autobiography "Memoirs," which documents his life and the history of his legendary family. Early American historian Edmund S. Morgan reflects on the personalities and achievements of the Founding Fathers and shares his latest book, "Benjamin Franklin."
https://charlierose.com/videos/25093
Charlie Rose: : DAVID ROCKEFELLER is here. Born in 1915, he is the grandson of the legendary John D. Rockefeller. In 1946, he began his 35-year career at the Chase Manhattan Bank. As chairman and CEO, he helped establish that bank as one of the world's most powerful financial institutions. He has known every United States president since Eisenhower, has had dealings with world leaders ranging from Khrushchev to Deng Xiaoping. His new autobiography, titled simply Memoirs, tells the story of a remarkable life and a remarkable family. I am pleased to have him back at this table. Welcome back. 00:45David Rockefeller: Thank you very much, Charlie. 00:48Charlie Rose: Yeah. I take-- 00:52David Rockefeller: It's always nice to be with you. 00:54Charlie Rose: I take some pleasure in that some of the things you talk about there we talked about-- 00:57David Rockefeller: That's true. 00:59Charlie Rose: --in an hour conversation we had before. Tell me about trepidation and challenge of writing such an intimate story of family, career, relationships. All that is never easy. 01:09David Rockefeller: That is certainly true, and I think it was both. It did cause some trepidation, and it's certainly a challenge. But I felt that I had had an unusually interesting life, that I'd had chances to meet a broad variety of people all over the world. And I felt, if for no other reason, for my children and descendants, that it might be interesting for them to hear about it. 01:36Charlie Rose: Yeah. 01:39David Rockefeller: And although it was a chore -- took about 10 years to write -- I'm glad I did it. 01:47Charlie Rose: Characterize growing up as the son of John D. Rockefeller, Jr.
01:52 Avid Rockefeller: Well, I was the youngest of six children, and I think that made it a lot easier for me than it was for my sister, who was the oldest, and my brother, John, who was the eldest son and bore the name of John D. Rockefeller III. And on top of that, he was rather shy. And I think for him, it was not an easy experience. I didn't really find it that way. I was aware of the fact that people probably didn't treat me as they would if I had a name that was less well known.
02:25Charlie Rose: You're aware of that. You couldn't miss that.
02:29David Rockefeller: Couldn't miss it. But you get used to it. And what I found was that very quickly, I could tell when people were being open and frank and friends and when people simply wanted to get something. And once you know that, you can be polite with those who have ulterior motives, but not get into trouble.
https://charlierose.com/videos/25093
25 March 2018 06:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thursday 09/17/2009
Senator Jay Rockefeller debates health care reform in America and the importance of a public option for health insurance.
https://charlierose.com/videos/15839
Charlie Rose: about movies when we continue. SEGMENT:1 We begin this evening with the ongoing debate over health care reform. President Obama today attended a rally of mostly young people at the University of Maryland in College Park. It was the administration's latest effort to restore public support for a Democratic overhaul of the health care system. The president had said Congress had taken meaningful steps towards reform. 00:26Barack Obama: The good news is we are now closer to reform than we've ever been. After debating the issue for the better part of a year, there's now agreement in Congress on about 80 percent of what needs to be done. Four out of five committees in Congress have completed their work. Yesterday the Finance Committee under the leadership of Max Baucus put out its own bill. Each bill has its strengths, and there are a lot of similarities between them. And our overall efforts have been supported by an unprecedented coalition of hospitals and seniors groups, businesses, drug companies even. Most importantly drugs -- doctors and nurses are supporting this effort. (APPLAUSE) I've also said that one of the options in the insurance exchange should be a public insurance option. (APPLAUSE) Let me be clear it, let me be clear, it would only be an option. No one would be forced to choose it. No one with insurance would be affected by it. But what it would do is provide more choice and more competition and put pressure on private insurers to make their policies affordable and treat their customers better. 01:37Charlie Rose: One of the supporters of a public option is Senator Jay Rockefeller, Democrat of West Virginia. He joins me now from Washington one day after he met with the president to insist that a government-run or be included in a reform bill, and also after time and meetings he just came from about health care reform. So I'm pleased to have him at this moment. Welcome. 01:59 Jay Rockefeller: Thank you, Charlie, very much. 02:01Charlie Rose: Tell me where we are at this moment as we record this interview for tonight's broadcast at 7:28. 02:08 Jay Rockefeller: We're not there yet. The 80 percent that the president mentioned may be a little bit high right now. That's maybe a little bit too optimistic. But the meeting we had this afternoon lasted for a number of hours was the first one we've had, just Democrats, because no Republicans are voting for bill, and we hoping we get Olympia Snowe, there was more of a sense that we are all in this together. And as I've always felt, when we get closer to actually having to vote rather than just give speeches, you tend to focus more, and then you tend to think in terms of the people of your state more, not so much just about health care policy, but how it affects individual people and the faces that come before you. And I think you do a better job of legislating. Now, that's very optimistic to say. But see the works during the amendment process. The amendment process in the Finance Committee is going to have to be substantial and it's going to have to be successful to make the bill substantially better than it is. 03:07Charlie Rose: You're not happy with the Baucas recommendations? 03:12 Jay Rockefeller: No, and I said that, and I said that I wouldn't vote for it as it is today. And other people said that in the meeting. But you see, it isn't what it is today. That is not what matters, that's not what counts. It is what changes you make in the amendment process, and then knowing that you'll have all Republicans, maybe minus one, voting against you that can make it better and make it, hopefully, something that I could vote for because it's a better product. 03:47Charlie Rose: Are you going to vote for a bill that doesn't include a public option? 03:52 Jay Rockefeller: You know, I would be hard-pressed to. I'd be hard- pressed to. And people say -- there's two ways of looking at a public option. One, the president just said very well, and that is that it's not the government taking it over. It's not -- it's just an entity which doesn't get any government money. It has to get money from its premiums from the people who decide to go with it. And it's not going to have any salaries, it doesn't have to make any profit. It's a totally nonprofit insurance company, insurance entity. And that in turn forces, and people will come to understand this more and more as time goes by, that it forces other insurance companies to lower the cost of their insurance. That's the whole point of it. You can't just put another insurance company out there. You have got to put one that doesn't have to make profit, but doesn't have to pay any attention to Wall Street. All it has to do is pay attention to consumers, their needs, and have lower costs. 04:53Charlie Rose: And the quality delivered will be just as good as anything offered by the private companies? 04:57 Jay Rockefeller: Absolutely, or else people won't come and get it. It has to be. The president said that.
Senator Jay Rockefeller debates health care reform in America and the importance of a public option for health insurance.
https://charlierose.com/videos/15839
Charlie Rose: about movies when we continue. SEGMENT:1 We begin this evening with the ongoing debate over health care reform. President Obama today attended a rally of mostly young people at the University of Maryland in College Park. It was the administration's latest effort to restore public support for a Democratic overhaul of the health care system. The president had said Congress had taken meaningful steps towards reform. 00:26Barack Obama: The good news is we are now closer to reform than we've ever been. After debating the issue for the better part of a year, there's now agreement in Congress on about 80 percent of what needs to be done. Four out of five committees in Congress have completed their work. Yesterday the Finance Committee under the leadership of Max Baucus put out its own bill. Each bill has its strengths, and there are a lot of similarities between them. And our overall efforts have been supported by an unprecedented coalition of hospitals and seniors groups, businesses, drug companies even. Most importantly drugs -- doctors and nurses are supporting this effort. (APPLAUSE) I've also said that one of the options in the insurance exchange should be a public insurance option. (APPLAUSE) Let me be clear it, let me be clear, it would only be an option. No one would be forced to choose it. No one with insurance would be affected by it. But what it would do is provide more choice and more competition and put pressure on private insurers to make their policies affordable and treat their customers better. 01:37Charlie Rose: One of the supporters of a public option is Senator Jay Rockefeller, Democrat of West Virginia. He joins me now from Washington one day after he met with the president to insist that a government-run or be included in a reform bill, and also after time and meetings he just came from about health care reform. So I'm pleased to have him at this moment. Welcome. 01:59 Jay Rockefeller: Thank you, Charlie, very much. 02:01Charlie Rose: Tell me where we are at this moment as we record this interview for tonight's broadcast at 7:28. 02:08 Jay Rockefeller: We're not there yet. The 80 percent that the president mentioned may be a little bit high right now. That's maybe a little bit too optimistic. But the meeting we had this afternoon lasted for a number of hours was the first one we've had, just Democrats, because no Republicans are voting for bill, and we hoping we get Olympia Snowe, there was more of a sense that we are all in this together. And as I've always felt, when we get closer to actually having to vote rather than just give speeches, you tend to focus more, and then you tend to think in terms of the people of your state more, not so much just about health care policy, but how it affects individual people and the faces that come before you. And I think you do a better job of legislating. Now, that's very optimistic to say. But see the works during the amendment process. The amendment process in the Finance Committee is going to have to be substantial and it's going to have to be successful to make the bill substantially better than it is. 03:07Charlie Rose: You're not happy with the Baucas recommendations? 03:12 Jay Rockefeller: No, and I said that, and I said that I wouldn't vote for it as it is today. And other people said that in the meeting. But you see, it isn't what it is today. That is not what matters, that's not what counts. It is what changes you make in the amendment process, and then knowing that you'll have all Republicans, maybe minus one, voting against you that can make it better and make it, hopefully, something that I could vote for because it's a better product. 03:47Charlie Rose: Are you going to vote for a bill that doesn't include a public option? 03:52 Jay Rockefeller: You know, I would be hard-pressed to. I'd be hard- pressed to. And people say -- there's two ways of looking at a public option. One, the president just said very well, and that is that it's not the government taking it over. It's not -- it's just an entity which doesn't get any government money. It has to get money from its premiums from the people who decide to go with it. And it's not going to have any salaries, it doesn't have to make any profit. It's a totally nonprofit insurance company, insurance entity. And that in turn forces, and people will come to understand this more and more as time goes by, that it forces other insurance companies to lower the cost of their insurance. That's the whole point of it. You can't just put another insurance company out there. You have got to put one that doesn't have to make profit, but doesn't have to pay any attention to Wall Street. All it has to do is pay attention to consumers, their needs, and have lower costs. 04:53Charlie Rose: And the quality delivered will be just as good as anything offered by the private companies? 04:57 Jay Rockefeller: Absolutely, or else people won't come and get it. It has to be. The president said that.
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25 March 2018 06:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Wednesday 05/05/2004
Senator Rockefeller reacts to President Bush's public apology for the abuse that Iraqi prisoners endured at the hands of American soldiers and discusses what additional steps need to be taken.
https://charlierose.com/videos/7287
Charlie Rose: In an unusual step, he granted interviews to two Arabic language television networks. And here is a part of what he said. 00:13George W. Bush: First, people in Iraq must understand that I view those practices as abhorrent. They must also understand that what took place in that prison does not represent America that I know. The America I know is a compassionate country that believes in freedom. The America I know cares about every individual. The America I know has sent troops into Iraq to promote freedom. We have a presumption of innocence until you're guilty in our system, but the system will be transparent. It will be open, and people will see the results. This is a serious matter. It's a matter that reflects badly on my country. Our citizens in America are appalled by what they saw, just like people in the Middle East are appalled. We share the same deep concerns. And we will find the truth. We will fully investigate. The world will see the investigation, and justice will be served. 01:19Charlie Rose: Joining me now from Washington, Senator John D. Rockefeller. He is the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee. It held a closed-door hearing today on the Iraqi prisoner abuse. And I am especially pleased to have him on this program. Senator Rockefeller-- 01:33John Rockefeller: Thank you, Charlie. 01:35Charlie Rose: -- let me thank you. Let me begin with this. Tell me what you think ought to happen now, not only what the president said, but serious questions are being raised about who knew what when, and if they did know, why didn't they, and if they knew, who did they share it with -- and you pick it up. 01:57John Rockefeller: I want to put it in a larger context first, and I'd be happy to go right to that. But I like what I heard of what the president said. I was in that meeting all afternoon and I didn't hear him actually speak. I liked his tone, and he was speaking, I think, for Americans. And that was -- that was good. The question is, Charlie, is it enough? Is it too late? Is there a larger something that we need to do? And the way I look at it is that the damage here is not just the humiliation of the Iraqi prisoners. That's abhorrent, horrible, and we all feel that way. But none of them were killed, at least in this incident at Abu Ghraib prison. But all of our troops are put at much greater risk because this happened. The United States is put at greater risk of being attacked by various groups because this happened. And the United States, because of this, now has probably legions of new jihadists that have sworn to the cause, if not right away at least in their own minds they've settled that they want to take it out on America because we have -- the worst thing in the Middle East is the concept of humiliation. To go from the great empire that they once were to a part of the world now where there's very little progress, very little hope. There's no jobs. There's no democracy. There is -- you know, regencies (ph). They were humiliated. And a speech from the president is not going to be enough. 03:51Charlie Rose: So what should the president do and what should this country do? 03:55John Rockefeller: I'm searching for that. I'm searching for that. I think there has to be some very, very large symbol. Obviously we are going -- and it's got to be a very powerful symbol. And it's got to somehow resonate with the Arab street. Let me say what I'm thinking about. 04:13Charlie Rose: Go ahead. 04:16John Rockefeller: This doesn't make sense, but this is on the dimension, it's in the ballpark of the kind of thing that I might consider, that the American Army comes in and just bulldozes down the entire prison. It's highly photogenic. It's the end of the prison. It's the end of the torture that Saddam Hussein did there and the end of the instance, the brute brutality that was exercised there under our command. And I'm not -- but the really big thing that has to happen -- and this is a larger subject -- is that I think the president has not been well served by his closest advisers. And I think he has to come to terms with that. I'm talking about the vice president. I'm talking about Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld and some others. And I think he has to come to terms with that, that he has to be willing to listen to other people that have other ideas. It's like there is a closed society which made up its mind and nothing changes. The apology was made, but will anything change? I'm not sure of that.
Senator Rockefeller reacts to President Bush's public apology for the abuse that Iraqi prisoners endured at the hands of American soldiers and discusses what additional steps need to be taken.
https://charlierose.com/videos/7287
Charlie Rose: In an unusual step, he granted interviews to two Arabic language television networks. And here is a part of what he said. 00:13George W. Bush: First, people in Iraq must understand that I view those practices as abhorrent. They must also understand that what took place in that prison does not represent America that I know. The America I know is a compassionate country that believes in freedom. The America I know cares about every individual. The America I know has sent troops into Iraq to promote freedom. We have a presumption of innocence until you're guilty in our system, but the system will be transparent. It will be open, and people will see the results. This is a serious matter. It's a matter that reflects badly on my country. Our citizens in America are appalled by what they saw, just like people in the Middle East are appalled. We share the same deep concerns. And we will find the truth. We will fully investigate. The world will see the investigation, and justice will be served. 01:19Charlie Rose: Joining me now from Washington, Senator John D. Rockefeller. He is the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee. It held a closed-door hearing today on the Iraqi prisoner abuse. And I am especially pleased to have him on this program. Senator Rockefeller-- 01:33John Rockefeller: Thank you, Charlie. 01:35Charlie Rose: -- let me thank you. Let me begin with this. Tell me what you think ought to happen now, not only what the president said, but serious questions are being raised about who knew what when, and if they did know, why didn't they, and if they knew, who did they share it with -- and you pick it up. 01:57John Rockefeller: I want to put it in a larger context first, and I'd be happy to go right to that. But I like what I heard of what the president said. I was in that meeting all afternoon and I didn't hear him actually speak. I liked his tone, and he was speaking, I think, for Americans. And that was -- that was good. The question is, Charlie, is it enough? Is it too late? Is there a larger something that we need to do? And the way I look at it is that the damage here is not just the humiliation of the Iraqi prisoners. That's abhorrent, horrible, and we all feel that way. But none of them were killed, at least in this incident at Abu Ghraib prison. But all of our troops are put at much greater risk because this happened. The United States is put at greater risk of being attacked by various groups because this happened. And the United States, because of this, now has probably legions of new jihadists that have sworn to the cause, if not right away at least in their own minds they've settled that they want to take it out on America because we have -- the worst thing in the Middle East is the concept of humiliation. To go from the great empire that they once were to a part of the world now where there's very little progress, very little hope. There's no jobs. There's no democracy. There is -- you know, regencies (ph). They were humiliated. And a speech from the president is not going to be enough. 03:51Charlie Rose: So what should the president do and what should this country do? 03:55John Rockefeller: I'm searching for that. I'm searching for that. I think there has to be some very, very large symbol. Obviously we are going -- and it's got to be a very powerful symbol. And it's got to somehow resonate with the Arab street. Let me say what I'm thinking about. 04:13Charlie Rose: Go ahead. 04:16John Rockefeller: This doesn't make sense, but this is on the dimension, it's in the ballpark of the kind of thing that I might consider, that the American Army comes in and just bulldozes down the entire prison. It's highly photogenic. It's the end of the prison. It's the end of the torture that Saddam Hussein did there and the end of the instance, the brute brutality that was exercised there under our command. And I'm not -- but the really big thing that has to happen -- and this is a larger subject -- is that I think the president has not been well served by his closest advisers. And I think he has to come to terms with that. I'm talking about the vice president. I'm talking about Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld and some others. And I think he has to come to terms with that, that he has to be willing to listen to other people that have other ideas. It's like there is a closed society which made up its mind and nothing changes. The apology was made, but will anything change? I'm not sure of that.
https://charlierose.com/videos/7287
25 March 2018 06:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Monday 10/21/2002
David Rockefeller, philanthropist and former C.E.O. of Chase Manhattan Bank, shares his autobiography, "Memoirs" which documents his life and the history of his legendary family.
https://charlierose.com/videos/9606
Charlie Rose: Rockefeller. In 1946, he began his 35-year career at the Chase Manhattan Bank. As chairman and CEO, he helped establish that bank as one of the world's most powerful financial institutions. He has known every United States president since Eisenhower, has had dealings with world leaders ranging from Khrushchev to Deng Xiaoping. His new autobiography, titled simply Memoirs, tells the story of a remarkable life and a remarkable family. I am pleased to have him back at this table. Welcome back. 00:29 David Rockefeller: Thank you very much, Charlie. 00:32Charlie Rose: Yeah. I take-- 00:36 David Rockefeller: It's always nice to be with you. 00:37Charlie Rose: I take some pleasure in that some of the things you talk about there we talked about-- 00:41 David Rockefeller: That's true. 00:43Charlie Rose: --in an hour conversation we had before. Tell me about trepidation and challenge of writing such an intimate story of family, career, relationships. All that is never easy. 00:52 David Rockefeller: That is certainly true, and I think it was both. It did cause some trepidation, and it's certainly a challenge. But I felt that I had had an unusually interesting life, that I'd had chances to meet a broad variety of people all over the world. And I felt, if for no other reason, for my children and descendants, that it might be interesting for them to hear about it. 01:20Charlie Rose: Yeah. 01:23 David Rockefeller: And although it was a chore -- took about 10 years to write -- I'm glad I did it. 01:30Charlie Rose: Characterize growing up as the son of John D. Rockefeller, Jr. 01:36Avid Rockefeller: Well, I was the youngest of six children, and I think that made it a lot easier for me than it was for my sister, who was the oldest, and my brother, John, who was the eldest son and bore the name of John D. Rockefeller III. And on top of that, he was rather shy. And I think for him, it was not an easy experience. I didn't really find it that way. I was aware of the fact that people probably didn't treat me as they would if I had a name that was less well known. 02:09Charlie Rose: You're aware of that. You couldn't miss that. 02:13 David Rockefeller: Couldn't miss it. But you get used to it. And what I found was that very quickly, I could tell when people were being open and frank and friends and when people simply wanted to get something. And once you know that, you can be polite with those who have ulterior motives, but not get into trouble. 02:38Charlie Rose: Yeah. And-- Nelson early on, for you, loomed large. 02:43 David Rockefeller: That's true. 02:46Charlie Rose: Why was that? 02:49 David Rockefeller: Well, he was my older brother. He was seven years older than I. In a way, he'd been sort of my hero because he was remarkably self-confident. He knew what he wanted. He wanted to be president of the United States. 03:07Charlie Rose: Knew it early. 03:10 David Rockefeller: Knew it early. And I think he felt that the family was there to help him achieve that. And we did help him, in the sense that we contributed and supported him to be elected governor four times, and I think he did an extremely good job. He didn't make the presidency. In a sense, I think it's too bad. I think he would have been a good president. 03:37Charlie Rose: But at the time, that was-- I mean, this is jumping ahead in the book. At the time, it was derailed in part because of his divorce. 03:46 David Rockefeller: I think there's no doubt that his divorce and remarriage at the very moment when he might have had a chance probably made the difference.
David Rockefeller, philanthropist and former C.E.O. of Chase Manhattan Bank, shares his autobiography, "Memoirs" which documents his life and the history of his legendary family.
https://charlierose.com/videos/9606
Charlie Rose: Rockefeller. In 1946, he began his 35-year career at the Chase Manhattan Bank. As chairman and CEO, he helped establish that bank as one of the world's most powerful financial institutions. He has known every United States president since Eisenhower, has had dealings with world leaders ranging from Khrushchev to Deng Xiaoping. His new autobiography, titled simply Memoirs, tells the story of a remarkable life and a remarkable family. I am pleased to have him back at this table. Welcome back. 00:29 David Rockefeller: Thank you very much, Charlie. 00:32Charlie Rose: Yeah. I take-- 00:36 David Rockefeller: It's always nice to be with you. 00:37Charlie Rose: I take some pleasure in that some of the things you talk about there we talked about-- 00:41 David Rockefeller: That's true. 00:43Charlie Rose: --in an hour conversation we had before. Tell me about trepidation and challenge of writing such an intimate story of family, career, relationships. All that is never easy. 00:52 David Rockefeller: That is certainly true, and I think it was both. It did cause some trepidation, and it's certainly a challenge. But I felt that I had had an unusually interesting life, that I'd had chances to meet a broad variety of people all over the world. And I felt, if for no other reason, for my children and descendants, that it might be interesting for them to hear about it. 01:20Charlie Rose: Yeah. 01:23 David Rockefeller: And although it was a chore -- took about 10 years to write -- I'm glad I did it. 01:30Charlie Rose: Characterize growing up as the son of John D. Rockefeller, Jr. 01:36Avid Rockefeller: Well, I was the youngest of six children, and I think that made it a lot easier for me than it was for my sister, who was the oldest, and my brother, John, who was the eldest son and bore the name of John D. Rockefeller III. And on top of that, he was rather shy. And I think for him, it was not an easy experience. I didn't really find it that way. I was aware of the fact that people probably didn't treat me as they would if I had a name that was less well known. 02:09Charlie Rose: You're aware of that. You couldn't miss that. 02:13 David Rockefeller: Couldn't miss it. But you get used to it. And what I found was that very quickly, I could tell when people were being open and frank and friends and when people simply wanted to get something. And once you know that, you can be polite with those who have ulterior motives, but not get into trouble. 02:38Charlie Rose: Yeah. And-- Nelson early on, for you, loomed large. 02:43 David Rockefeller: That's true. 02:46Charlie Rose: Why was that? 02:49 David Rockefeller: Well, he was my older brother. He was seven years older than I. In a way, he'd been sort of my hero because he was remarkably self-confident. He knew what he wanted. He wanted to be president of the United States. 03:07Charlie Rose: Knew it early. 03:10 David Rockefeller: Knew it early. And I think he felt that the family was there to help him achieve that. And we did help him, in the sense that we contributed and supported him to be elected governor four times, and I think he did an extremely good job. He didn't make the presidency. In a sense, I think it's too bad. I think he would have been a good president. 03:37Charlie Rose: But at the time, that was-- I mean, this is jumping ahead in the book. At the time, it was derailed in part because of his divorce. 03:46 David Rockefeller: I think there's no doubt that his divorce and remarriage at the very moment when he might have had a chance probably made the difference.
https://charlierose.com/videos/9606
25 March 2018 06:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thursday 04/15/1993
Senator Jay Rockefeller explains the need for health care reform and why the Clinton proposal will help.
https://charlierose.com/videos/28717
Charlie Rose: First, the story of Senator Jay Rockefeller, Democrat from West Virginia, is well known. Born into one of America's wealthiest families. He attended Harvard and lived in Japan. He worked as a VISTA volunteer in West Virginia and decided to stay. He later became governor and then senator. Senator Rockefeller has been the leading spokesman for health care reform in the Senate. He joins us now for a conversation about that and his other primary legislative interest, the welfare of children. I'm very pleased to welcome him. Good to have you here. 00:28Jay Rockefeller: Thank you, Charlie. 00:30Charlie Rose: My pleasure. Let me talk first about health care and what do you think this Clinton Task Force is doing and what are they going to come up with. We're beginning to get some leaks out about Value Added Tax and this kind of sales tax to pay for it. Give us a primer in terms of where you think it's going. 00:49Jay Rockefeller: First of all, it's the most honorable overwhelming attempt, effective attempt I think, to produce good legislation. You got to understand that reforming health care has never been done. A legislation is going to be the most complex, the most difficult, the most controversial in the history of the United States Congress, and I'm not exaggerating. They have 500 people working now for 4 months, nonstop, 7 days a week to present hundreds of options to the President and the First Lady. 01:19Charlie Rose: Before we talk about this substantial topic, let me retrace what you just said. The most difficult, why? 01:26Jay Rockefeller: The doctors aren't going to like part of it, the insurance companies aren't going to like a lot of it, the lawyers aren't going to like some of the Tort reform. Small businesses doesn't like to have government telling them what to do. Big business isn't going to like taxes. Consumers are going to have to pay something. The whole system gets moved around. Everybody's kind of comfortable, even though they're angry about health care in general, they're sort of satisfied about their own, if they have health insurance. In a sense you're taking a big part of people's lives, 1 out of every 7 dollars in the American economy, and turning them all upside down. 01:58Charlie Rose: So you've got that bloody fight taking place over competing interest. 02:04Jay Rockefeller: And all of it has to be done, passed, all of the legislation passed by, I say, December 22nd of this year. Which gives us 2 days for Christmas shopping. 02:10Charlie Rose: You think it will happen this year? 02:12Jay Rockefeller: Yeah, I do. 02:14Charlie Rose: You really think there's that much momentum and that much pressure from the American public, who's saying, we believe there's the body of politic has reached a certain critical mass so that they're demanding you and the President fix health care? 02:28Jay Rockefeller: You got it. The people want the federal government to do it, even as they're saying we don't trust the federal government to implement it, because people don't trust government in America. They know they've got a disaster on their hands. They know that the cost of health care is only going out of control. We're going to spend a trillion dollars next year. Two trillion dollars in 6 years. The country's going to shut down because of health care. Whatever Bill Clinton does on the deficit, and I'm supporting him on it, it will not work unless we do health care reform and contain the cost of health care.
Senator Jay Rockefeller explains the need for health care reform and why the Clinton proposal will help.
https://charlierose.com/videos/28717
Charlie Rose: First, the story of Senator Jay Rockefeller, Democrat from West Virginia, is well known. Born into one of America's wealthiest families. He attended Harvard and lived in Japan. He worked as a VISTA volunteer in West Virginia and decided to stay. He later became governor and then senator. Senator Rockefeller has been the leading spokesman for health care reform in the Senate. He joins us now for a conversation about that and his other primary legislative interest, the welfare of children. I'm very pleased to welcome him. Good to have you here. 00:28Jay Rockefeller: Thank you, Charlie. 00:30Charlie Rose: My pleasure. Let me talk first about health care and what do you think this Clinton Task Force is doing and what are they going to come up with. We're beginning to get some leaks out about Value Added Tax and this kind of sales tax to pay for it. Give us a primer in terms of where you think it's going. 00:49Jay Rockefeller: First of all, it's the most honorable overwhelming attempt, effective attempt I think, to produce good legislation. You got to understand that reforming health care has never been done. A legislation is going to be the most complex, the most difficult, the most controversial in the history of the United States Congress, and I'm not exaggerating. They have 500 people working now for 4 months, nonstop, 7 days a week to present hundreds of options to the President and the First Lady. 01:19Charlie Rose: Before we talk about this substantial topic, let me retrace what you just said. The most difficult, why? 01:26Jay Rockefeller: The doctors aren't going to like part of it, the insurance companies aren't going to like a lot of it, the lawyers aren't going to like some of the Tort reform. Small businesses doesn't like to have government telling them what to do. Big business isn't going to like taxes. Consumers are going to have to pay something. The whole system gets moved around. Everybody's kind of comfortable, even though they're angry about health care in general, they're sort of satisfied about their own, if they have health insurance. In a sense you're taking a big part of people's lives, 1 out of every 7 dollars in the American economy, and turning them all upside down. 01:58Charlie Rose: So you've got that bloody fight taking place over competing interest. 02:04Jay Rockefeller: And all of it has to be done, passed, all of the legislation passed by, I say, December 22nd of this year. Which gives us 2 days for Christmas shopping. 02:10Charlie Rose: You think it will happen this year? 02:12Jay Rockefeller: Yeah, I do. 02:14Charlie Rose: You really think there's that much momentum and that much pressure from the American public, who's saying, we believe there's the body of politic has reached a certain critical mass so that they're demanding you and the President fix health care? 02:28Jay Rockefeller: You got it. The people want the federal government to do it, even as they're saying we don't trust the federal government to implement it, because people don't trust government in America. They know they've got a disaster on their hands. They know that the cost of health care is only going out of control. We're going to spend a trillion dollars next year. Two trillion dollars in 6 years. The country's going to shut down because of health care. Whatever Bill Clinton does on the deficit, and I'm supporting him on it, it will not work unless we do health care reform and contain the cost of health care.
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25 March 2018 06:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Monday 03/20/2017
A look at the legacy of David Rockefeller, the banker and philanthropist who made significant contributions to commercial and civic life in New York CIty.
https://charlierose.com/videos/30271
Charlie Rose: David Rockefeller died Monday morning. He was 101 years old. The banker who became a public figure was the youngest grandson of John D. Rockefeller, the founder of Standard Oil. David Rockefeller led Chase Manhattan Bank for more than a decade. He expanded the bank's operation globally and cultivated close relationships with foreign leaders. He was also a renowned art collector and philanthropist. In a statement, former Mayor Michael Bloomberg said, "No individual has contributed more to the commercial and civic life of New York City over a longer period of time than David Rockefeller." Mike Bloomberg once said to me that if his father knew he was a friend of David Rockefeller's, nothing would have made him more proud. I could say the same thing. You are looking now at a photograph taken at the Bush home in Kennebunkport, Maine. I'd been invited to the Bush's for lunch and knew David was in Maine, so I called President Bush and asked if I might invite David. And then he said, "Of course. I would love to see him." David came by helicopter. I came up by Delta and we all had a wonderful afternoon. He was a wonderful man, a wonderful friend and he lived an extraordinary life. In his later years, he made it a point of showing his grandchildren and great grandchildren around the world. I had the great joy of his friendship and celebrated his 100th birthday with him and many of his close friends. He appeared on this program many times. Here is a look at some of those conversations. Do you represent in some way the end of an era when you think of the family and you think of dispersion and you think of the central role that you have played in the evolution of this family through the tradition I just talked about? 01:48 David Rockefeller: It certainly is the end of one important period for the family. I like to think, though, that there are lots of oncoming members of the family who are going to make a place for themselves, both in the next generation, my children and nieces and nephews and coming on the fifth and sixth generation, they are really quite remarkable. I don't believe it will be the same, but I think that there are real possibilities that they will make a place for themselves. 02:19Charlie Rose: How do you explain, one, the family has been a prominent, b) it has survived and other great American families, but none have maintained such a prominence in American life and to have seemed to have carried such a commitment of payback? 02:36 David Rockefeller: Well, I think it's largely that we, my siblings and myself, had very good parents. I think mother and father complemented one another in a way that was very much to our benefit and we were brought up to feel responsibility for the fact that we did have more than most people. And father always said, and I think rightly, that for every opportunity goes an obligation. And I think without preaching that in an offensive way, we all felt that responsibility and also, have had great opportunities. 03:17Charlie Rose: He imposed a sense of frugality from what I read. 03:20 David Rockefeller: Yes, he did but I think here's where he married a wonderful person, my mother, who brought perhaps a little more humanity and humor and sense of fun than perhaps father was brought up with. 03:37Charlie Rose: Yes. 03:38 David Rockefeller: And the combination of the two, I think it worked well. 03:41Charlie Rose: Her father was a senator from Rhode Island. 03:42 David Rockefeller: Her father was a senator, Republican Senator from Rhode Island. He was in the senate I think 32 years. 03:48Charlie Rose: Do you remember your grandfather? 03:52 David Rockefeller: Our last -- my Grandfather Rockefeller, yes. 03:54Charlie Rose: Yes. 03:55 David Rockefeller: And he died when I was 21. And I saw a great deal of him. My grand -- unfortunately, my other three grandparents all died within a year of the time I was born. So it's only my Grandfather Rockefeller that I knew. 04:12Charlie Rose: And then your dad, who was called junior, carried on the tradition. 04:17 David Rockefeller: He did indeed with great dedication and I think very effectively. He was a deeply religious person and I think that that had a great impact on his life and what he did. But he also had great imagination and I think he was primarily known as a philanthropist. He was a very creative one. And what he would, a lot of the most creative things that he did, he did because he saw an opportunity on a trip, sometimes with his children. An example being Colonial Williamsburg, which he visited with his three younger children in 1926 and met with Dr. Goodwin and he's visited Williamsburg, which of course had been the capital in the pre-United States days, and then was moved to -- capital moved to Richmond. And Dr. Goodwin persuaded him to take an interest in restoring one building and from that... 05:27Charlie Rose: We got a village. 05:28 David Rockefeller: ...he restored Williamsburg. But the same year, we also went to Jackson's Hole and as a result of seeing the area below the Grand Teton Mountains which were being cluttered with sign boards and honky-tonks and whatnot, he bought up that land and gave it to the United States Government as part of the Grand Teton National Park. In other words, I think that he was a creative philanthropist in a very wonderful way.
A look at the legacy of David Rockefeller, the banker and philanthropist who made significant contributions to commercial and civic life in New York CIty.
https://charlierose.com/videos/30271
Charlie Rose: David Rockefeller died Monday morning. He was 101 years old. The banker who became a public figure was the youngest grandson of John D. Rockefeller, the founder of Standard Oil. David Rockefeller led Chase Manhattan Bank for more than a decade. He expanded the bank's operation globally and cultivated close relationships with foreign leaders. He was also a renowned art collector and philanthropist. In a statement, former Mayor Michael Bloomberg said, "No individual has contributed more to the commercial and civic life of New York City over a longer period of time than David Rockefeller." Mike Bloomberg once said to me that if his father knew he was a friend of David Rockefeller's, nothing would have made him more proud. I could say the same thing. You are looking now at a photograph taken at the Bush home in Kennebunkport, Maine. I'd been invited to the Bush's for lunch and knew David was in Maine, so I called President Bush and asked if I might invite David. And then he said, "Of course. I would love to see him." David came by helicopter. I came up by Delta and we all had a wonderful afternoon. He was a wonderful man, a wonderful friend and he lived an extraordinary life. In his later years, he made it a point of showing his grandchildren and great grandchildren around the world. I had the great joy of his friendship and celebrated his 100th birthday with him and many of his close friends. He appeared on this program many times. Here is a look at some of those conversations. Do you represent in some way the end of an era when you think of the family and you think of dispersion and you think of the central role that you have played in the evolution of this family through the tradition I just talked about? 01:48 David Rockefeller: It certainly is the end of one important period for the family. I like to think, though, that there are lots of oncoming members of the family who are going to make a place for themselves, both in the next generation, my children and nieces and nephews and coming on the fifth and sixth generation, they are really quite remarkable. I don't believe it will be the same, but I think that there are real possibilities that they will make a place for themselves. 02:19Charlie Rose: How do you explain, one, the family has been a prominent, b) it has survived and other great American families, but none have maintained such a prominence in American life and to have seemed to have carried such a commitment of payback? 02:36 David Rockefeller: Well, I think it's largely that we, my siblings and myself, had very good parents. I think mother and father complemented one another in a way that was very much to our benefit and we were brought up to feel responsibility for the fact that we did have more than most people. And father always said, and I think rightly, that for every opportunity goes an obligation. And I think without preaching that in an offensive way, we all felt that responsibility and also, have had great opportunities. 03:17Charlie Rose: He imposed a sense of frugality from what I read. 03:20 David Rockefeller: Yes, he did but I think here's where he married a wonderful person, my mother, who brought perhaps a little more humanity and humor and sense of fun than perhaps father was brought up with. 03:37Charlie Rose: Yes. 03:38 David Rockefeller: And the combination of the two, I think it worked well. 03:41Charlie Rose: Her father was a senator from Rhode Island. 03:42 David Rockefeller: Her father was a senator, Republican Senator from Rhode Island. He was in the senate I think 32 years. 03:48Charlie Rose: Do you remember your grandfather? 03:52 David Rockefeller: Our last -- my Grandfather Rockefeller, yes. 03:54Charlie Rose: Yes. 03:55 David Rockefeller: And he died when I was 21. And I saw a great deal of him. My grand -- unfortunately, my other three grandparents all died within a year of the time I was born. So it's only my Grandfather Rockefeller that I knew. 04:12Charlie Rose: And then your dad, who was called junior, carried on the tradition. 04:17 David Rockefeller: He did indeed with great dedication and I think very effectively. He was a deeply religious person and I think that that had a great impact on his life and what he did. But he also had great imagination and I think he was primarily known as a philanthropist. He was a very creative one. And what he would, a lot of the most creative things that he did, he did because he saw an opportunity on a trip, sometimes with his children. An example being Colonial Williamsburg, which he visited with his three younger children in 1926 and met with Dr. Goodwin and he's visited Williamsburg, which of course had been the capital in the pre-United States days, and then was moved to -- capital moved to Richmond. And Dr. Goodwin persuaded him to take an interest in restoring one building and from that... 05:27Charlie Rose: We got a village. 05:28 David Rockefeller: ...he restored Williamsburg. But the same year, we also went to Jackson's Hole and as a result of seeing the area below the Grand Teton Mountains which were being cluttered with sign boards and honky-tonks and whatnot, he bought up that land and gave it to the United States Government as part of the Grand Teton National Park. In other words, I think that he was a creative philanthropist in a very wonderful way.
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25 March 2018 05:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tuesday 12/01/1998
An hour with David Rockefeller, the grandson of John D. Rockefeller and a third generation member of one of the most influential families in America.
https://charlierose.com/videos/24440
Charlie Rose: DAVID ROCKEFELLER is here. He is the grandson of John D. Rockefeller, the founder of Standard Oil and one of America's most remarkable families. Think of Rockefeller University, Colonial Williamsburg, the Museum of Modern Art, Rockefeller Center, the United Nations, Lincoln Center, and you sense just a part of the contribution of the Rockefeller family. The fortune came from Standard Oil. The tradition of commitment came from John D. Rockefeller. David's father, John D. Rockefeller, Jr., carried on and enlarged the tradition of doing well and doing good. David and Lawrence are the surviving members of the third generation, called ''the brothers'' even though the oldest was his sister, Abby. The other brothers, now deceased, were Nelson, John D. II, and Winthrop. DAVID ROCKEFELLER, born June 12th, 1915, was the youngest. The fourth generation, numbering 22 men and women, are called ''the cousins.'' They have taken over most of the activities of the family holdings. DAVID ROCKEFELLER is still very much the head of the family with a challenging workload, including writing his memoirs. It has been a remarkable life. He has met 12 presidents, starting with Coolidge, and traveled millions of miles to more than 100 countries. He has seen and participated in history. And we are pleased to have him with us this evening to talk about those experiences as well as the lessons to be applied to the future as we end one century an begin another. 01:48David Rockefeller: Thank you so much, Charlie. 01:52Charlie Rose: It's a great pleasure to have you here. We've wanted to do this for a while, and I'm pleased that we can do it now. 02:04David Rockefeller: I'm looking forward to it. 02:08Charlie Rose: Do you represent in some way the end of an era? When you think of the family and you think of-- of-- of dispersion and you think of the central role that you have played in the evolution of this family through the tradition I just talked about? 02:24David Rockefeller: It certainly is the end of one important period for the family. I like to think, though, that there are lots of on-coming members of the family who are gonna make a place for themselves both in the next generation -- my children and nieces and nephews -- and coming on the fifth and sixth generations. They're really quite remarkable. I don't believe it'll be the same. But I think that there are real possibilities that they will make a place for themselves. 02:50Charlie Rose: How do you explain -- one -- the family's been -- A -- prominent -- B -- it has survived. There have been other great American families, but none have maintained such a prominence in American life and have seemed to have carried such a commitment of payback. 03:08David Rockefeller: Well, I think it's largely that we, my siblings and myself, had very good parents. I think mother and father complemented one another in a way that was very much to our benefit and we were brought up to feel responsibility for the fact that we did have more than most people. And father always said -- and I think rightly -- that for every opportunity goes an obligation. And I think, without preaching that in an offensive way, we've all felt that responsibility and also have had great opportunities. 03:48Charlie Rose: He imposed a sense of frugality from what read. 03:52David Rockefeller: Yes, he did. But I think his-- where he married a wonderful person, my mother, who brought perhaps a little more humanity and humor and sense of fun than perhaps father was brought up with. And the combination of the two, I think, has worked well. 04:11Charlie Rose: Her father was a senator from Rhode Island? 04:14David Rockefeller: Her father was a senator, Republican senator, from Rhode Island, was in the Senate, I think, 32 years. 04:21Charlie Rose: Yeah. Do you remember your grandfather? 04:26David Rockefeller: Alas-- my grandfather Rockefeller, yes. He died when I was 21, and I saw a great deal of him. My grand-- unfortunately my other three grandparents all died within a year of the time I was born. So, it's only my grandfather Rockefeller that I knew. 04:42Charlie Rose: And then your dad, who was called ''Junior,'' carried on the tradition. 04:49David Rockefeller: He did indeed with great dedication and, I think, very effectively. He was a deeply religious person. And I think that that had a great impact on his life and what he did. But he also had great imagination, and I think his-- he was primarily known as a philanthropist, a very creative one. And he would-- a lot of the most creative things that he did he did because he saw an opportunity on a trip, sometimes with his children -- example being Colonial Williamsburg, which he visited with his three younger children in 1926 and met with Dr. Goodwin. And he visited Williamsburg, which -- of course -- had been the capital in the-- in the pre-United-States days and then was moved-- the capital moved to Richmond. And Dr. Goodwin persuaded him to take an interest in restoring one building. And then from that he restored-- 05:55
An hour with David Rockefeller, the grandson of John D. Rockefeller and a third generation member of one of the most influential families in America.
https://charlierose.com/videos/24440
Charlie Rose: DAVID ROCKEFELLER is here. He is the grandson of John D. Rockefeller, the founder of Standard Oil and one of America's most remarkable families. Think of Rockefeller University, Colonial Williamsburg, the Museum of Modern Art, Rockefeller Center, the United Nations, Lincoln Center, and you sense just a part of the contribution of the Rockefeller family. The fortune came from Standard Oil. The tradition of commitment came from John D. Rockefeller. David's father, John D. Rockefeller, Jr., carried on and enlarged the tradition of doing well and doing good. David and Lawrence are the surviving members of the third generation, called ''the brothers'' even though the oldest was his sister, Abby. The other brothers, now deceased, were Nelson, John D. II, and Winthrop. DAVID ROCKEFELLER, born June 12th, 1915, was the youngest. The fourth generation, numbering 22 men and women, are called ''the cousins.'' They have taken over most of the activities of the family holdings. DAVID ROCKEFELLER is still very much the head of the family with a challenging workload, including writing his memoirs. It has been a remarkable life. He has met 12 presidents, starting with Coolidge, and traveled millions of miles to more than 100 countries. He has seen and participated in history. And we are pleased to have him with us this evening to talk about those experiences as well as the lessons to be applied to the future as we end one century an begin another. 01:48David Rockefeller: Thank you so much, Charlie. 01:52Charlie Rose: It's a great pleasure to have you here. We've wanted to do this for a while, and I'm pleased that we can do it now. 02:04David Rockefeller: I'm looking forward to it. 02:08Charlie Rose: Do you represent in some way the end of an era? When you think of the family and you think of-- of-- of dispersion and you think of the central role that you have played in the evolution of this family through the tradition I just talked about? 02:24David Rockefeller: It certainly is the end of one important period for the family. I like to think, though, that there are lots of on-coming members of the family who are gonna make a place for themselves both in the next generation -- my children and nieces and nephews -- and coming on the fifth and sixth generations. They're really quite remarkable. I don't believe it'll be the same. But I think that there are real possibilities that they will make a place for themselves. 02:50Charlie Rose: How do you explain -- one -- the family's been -- A -- prominent -- B -- it has survived. There have been other great American families, but none have maintained such a prominence in American life and have seemed to have carried such a commitment of payback. 03:08David Rockefeller: Well, I think it's largely that we, my siblings and myself, had very good parents. I think mother and father complemented one another in a way that was very much to our benefit and we were brought up to feel responsibility for the fact that we did have more than most people. And father always said -- and I think rightly -- that for every opportunity goes an obligation. And I think, without preaching that in an offensive way, we've all felt that responsibility and also have had great opportunities. 03:48Charlie Rose: He imposed a sense of frugality from what read. 03:52David Rockefeller: Yes, he did. But I think his-- where he married a wonderful person, my mother, who brought perhaps a little more humanity and humor and sense of fun than perhaps father was brought up with. And the combination of the two, I think, has worked well. 04:11Charlie Rose: Her father was a senator from Rhode Island? 04:14David Rockefeller: Her father was a senator, Republican senator, from Rhode Island, was in the Senate, I think, 32 years. 04:21Charlie Rose: Yeah. Do you remember your grandfather? 04:26David Rockefeller: Alas-- my grandfather Rockefeller, yes. He died when I was 21, and I saw a great deal of him. My grand-- unfortunately my other three grandparents all died within a year of the time I was born. So, it's only my grandfather Rockefeller that I knew. 04:42Charlie Rose: And then your dad, who was called ''Junior,'' carried on the tradition. 04:49David Rockefeller: He did indeed with great dedication and, I think, very effectively. He was a deeply religious person. And I think that that had a great impact on his life and what he did. But he also had great imagination, and I think his-- he was primarily known as a philanthropist, a very creative one. And he would-- a lot of the most creative things that he did he did because he saw an opportunity on a trip, sometimes with his children -- example being Colonial Williamsburg, which he visited with his three younger children in 1926 and met with Dr. Goodwin. And he visited Williamsburg, which -- of course -- had been the capital in the-- in the pre-United-States days and then was moved-- the capital moved to Richmond. And Dr. Goodwin persuaded him to take an interest in restoring one building. And then from that he restored-- 05:55
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25 March 2018 05:57
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Friday 02/04/1994
West Virginia Senator John D. Rockefeller IV joins Charlie Rose to discuss Bill Clinton's Health Care Reform Plan.
https://charlierose.com/videos/4002
Charlie Rose: President's plan, Democratic Senator Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, who is chairman of the Finance Committee's Medicare subcommittee, and as I said, a long-time advocate of health care reform. Welcome. Sen. 00:12 Jay Rockefeller: Thanks, Charlie. 00:14Charlie Rose: You just heard-- I assume you heard part of what Congressman Cooper said. Tell me what you think, in terms of how he sees what's going to take place. He sees a compromise working its way through the Hill between his plan and the plan that you support, the Clinton plan, and he talked about some of the areas that might be negotiable. Sen. 00:32 Jay Rockefeller: You can't talk compromise with Jim Cooper at this point because his-- he's just so far distant from what it takes to have universal health care coverage, in other words, everybody having health care coverage. He's so far removed from that. In his -- and people have to understand this, and of course, they don't, because it's a complicated subject -- but in his plan, you know, no business bigger than 100 has to belong to an alliance, and even in those businesses, the employer doesn't have to pay for health insurance, they only have to offer health insurance to their employees. And the way it works is, obviously the employees aren't going to be able to afford it. 01:11Charlie Rose: Let me ask you two questions. Why is employer mandate crucial, one, and why do you need large alliances in order to reduce the costs? Sen. 01:21 Jay Rockefeller: Two very important questions, and very important to answer. Number one, all the testimony that we've had in the Finance Committee, everybody who's a health care expert will tell you that you cannot get everybody covered unless it is a non-voluntary approach. We have a voluntary approach right now, Charlie, in America. And you know, a lot of people get their health care coverage because they work for businesses that offer health insurance. But unless you mandate it, it doesn't happen. See, you don't-- it's not the word mandate or voluntary that's important. It's important that the system work, whatever we come out with. There's got to be a health care system that works, that really does. That means everybody has to be in it so you stop cost-shifting, people have security, savings, that kind of thing. Only a mandate gets you there. Witness after witness after witness, governor after governor, in front of the Finance Committee, has said that. 02:15Charlie Rose: Congressman Cooper doesn't say that. Sen. 02:19 Jay Rockefeller: Yeah. 02:22Charlie Rose: What he says is that because of the plan, that you add too much bureaucracy to do that, number one, and number two, that what he believes is that he'll save costs with his plan and that eventually you will be able to get to universality, so you don't need to mandate to get there. Sen. 02:35 Jay Rockefeller: Yeah. He'll save the insurance companies a lot of costs. 02:38Charlie Rose: Right. Sen. 02:42 Jay Rockefeller: They like his plan very, very well. They endorse it, they're for it. 02:45Charlie Rose: Do you think that insurance companies-- Sen. 02:47 Jay Rockefeller: No, let me-- let me come back. 02:48Charlie Rose: Okay. Sen. 02:51 Jay Rockefeller: You indicated about bureaucracy and alliances. I'll just give you two examples. One, the biggest bureaucracy we have is the system today. We have insurance companies and businesses all over this country where you have accountants and people all over the place trying to figure out what these forms mean from 1,500 different health insurance companies. Everybody goes crazy. That's called bureaucracy. Now, if you want a kind of a prototype -- and it won't be the same, it'll be better than this -- look at the federal employees health care plan. Nine million participants, $14 billion of health care. You know how many people run that entire operation, which includes federal employees all across the country? 03:28Charlie Rose: I have no idea. Sen.
West Virginia Senator John D. Rockefeller IV joins Charlie Rose to discuss Bill Clinton's Health Care Reform Plan.
https://charlierose.com/videos/4002
Charlie Rose: President's plan, Democratic Senator Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, who is chairman of the Finance Committee's Medicare subcommittee, and as I said, a long-time advocate of health care reform. Welcome. Sen. 00:12 Jay Rockefeller: Thanks, Charlie. 00:14Charlie Rose: You just heard-- I assume you heard part of what Congressman Cooper said. Tell me what you think, in terms of how he sees what's going to take place. He sees a compromise working its way through the Hill between his plan and the plan that you support, the Clinton plan, and he talked about some of the areas that might be negotiable. Sen. 00:32 Jay Rockefeller: You can't talk compromise with Jim Cooper at this point because his-- he's just so far distant from what it takes to have universal health care coverage, in other words, everybody having health care coverage. He's so far removed from that. In his -- and people have to understand this, and of course, they don't, because it's a complicated subject -- but in his plan, you know, no business bigger than 100 has to belong to an alliance, and even in those businesses, the employer doesn't have to pay for health insurance, they only have to offer health insurance to their employees. And the way it works is, obviously the employees aren't going to be able to afford it. 01:11Charlie Rose: Let me ask you two questions. Why is employer mandate crucial, one, and why do you need large alliances in order to reduce the costs? Sen. 01:21 Jay Rockefeller: Two very important questions, and very important to answer. Number one, all the testimony that we've had in the Finance Committee, everybody who's a health care expert will tell you that you cannot get everybody covered unless it is a non-voluntary approach. We have a voluntary approach right now, Charlie, in America. And you know, a lot of people get their health care coverage because they work for businesses that offer health insurance. But unless you mandate it, it doesn't happen. See, you don't-- it's not the word mandate or voluntary that's important. It's important that the system work, whatever we come out with. There's got to be a health care system that works, that really does. That means everybody has to be in it so you stop cost-shifting, people have security, savings, that kind of thing. Only a mandate gets you there. Witness after witness after witness, governor after governor, in front of the Finance Committee, has said that. 02:15Charlie Rose: Congressman Cooper doesn't say that. Sen. 02:19 Jay Rockefeller: Yeah. 02:22Charlie Rose: What he says is that because of the plan, that you add too much bureaucracy to do that, number one, and number two, that what he believes is that he'll save costs with his plan and that eventually you will be able to get to universality, so you don't need to mandate to get there. Sen. 02:35 Jay Rockefeller: Yeah. He'll save the insurance companies a lot of costs. 02:38Charlie Rose: Right. Sen. 02:42 Jay Rockefeller: They like his plan very, very well. They endorse it, they're for it. 02:45Charlie Rose: Do you think that insurance companies-- Sen. 02:47 Jay Rockefeller: No, let me-- let me come back. 02:48Charlie Rose: Okay. Sen. 02:51 Jay Rockefeller: You indicated about bureaucracy and alliances. I'll just give you two examples. One, the biggest bureaucracy we have is the system today. We have insurance companies and businesses all over this country where you have accountants and people all over the place trying to figure out what these forms mean from 1,500 different health insurance companies. Everybody goes crazy. That's called bureaucracy. Now, if you want a kind of a prototype -- and it won't be the same, it'll be better than this -- look at the federal employees health care plan. Nine million participants, $14 billion of health care. You know how many people run that entire operation, which includes federal employees all across the country? 03:28Charlie Rose: I have no idea. Sen.
https://charlierose.com/videos/4002
25 March 2018 05:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tuesday 10/08/2013
The great-granddaughter of John D. Rockefeller, Eileen Rockefeller, examines her childhood and what it meant to be part of American royalty in her book, "Being A Rockefeller, Becoming Myself."
https://charlierose.com/videos/17477
David Rockefeller: I think they now recognize that having wealth if you use it intelligently can be a means of accomplishing many good things and I feel all of our six children use the funds that they have wisely and well and I'm very proud of what they're doing. 00:21Charlie Rose: You have said I think before to me you think -- you hope that your legacy will be that you have used the wealth wisely. 00:31David Rockefeller: That is certainly true. And along with that I feel very proud of the fact that Peggy and I brought up six children who are, I think, going to make their own mark in the world -- are making their own mark in the world in a very constructive way. 00:48Charlie Rose: One of those children is his daughter Eileen Rockefeller. She is the great granddaughter of John D. Rockefeller, the founder of Standard Oil. She currently serves as the founding chair of Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors as well as the Growald Family Fund. She's written a memoir. It is an exploration of identity and a look inside of one of the most important American families in all of our histories. It's called "Being a Rockefeller, Becoming Myself". I'm pleased to have Eileen Rockefeller at this table for the first time. Welcome. 01:18 Eileen Rockefeller: Thank you, Charlie, it's a pleasure to be here. 01:22Charlie Rose: When you write a book, it's not an easy task as you found out. 01:27 Eileen Rockefeller: No, it' not. But I have to say that the six years of writing it were a lot shorter than the 61 years it's taken me to become myself. 01:36Charlie Rose: Now what does that mean? Because 61 years is when you see yourself fully formed and that's just what it's about? 01:44 Eileen Rockefeller: Well, I hope I'll never be fully formed. But I'm evolved enough to be able to incorporate the Rockefeller as well as the Eileen. 01:51Charlie Rose: Is it hard to be a Rockefeller? 01:54 Eileen Rockefeller: Yes. 01:56Charlie Rose: Because much is expected? 02:00 Eileen Rockefeller: Much is expected. It's both a great opportunity and a challenge. And certainly I have received many, many benefits and along with them come the responsibilities of doing well.
The great-granddaughter of John D. Rockefeller, Eileen Rockefeller, examines her childhood and what it meant to be part of American royalty in her book, "Being A Rockefeller, Becoming Myself."
https://charlierose.com/videos/17477
David Rockefeller: I think they now recognize that having wealth if you use it intelligently can be a means of accomplishing many good things and I feel all of our six children use the funds that they have wisely and well and I'm very proud of what they're doing. 00:21Charlie Rose: You have said I think before to me you think -- you hope that your legacy will be that you have used the wealth wisely. 00:31David Rockefeller: That is certainly true. And along with that I feel very proud of the fact that Peggy and I brought up six children who are, I think, going to make their own mark in the world -- are making their own mark in the world in a very constructive way. 00:48Charlie Rose: One of those children is his daughter Eileen Rockefeller. She is the great granddaughter of John D. Rockefeller, the founder of Standard Oil. She currently serves as the founding chair of Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors as well as the Growald Family Fund. She's written a memoir. It is an exploration of identity and a look inside of one of the most important American families in all of our histories. It's called "Being a Rockefeller, Becoming Myself". I'm pleased to have Eileen Rockefeller at this table for the first time. Welcome. 01:18 Eileen Rockefeller: Thank you, Charlie, it's a pleasure to be here. 01:22Charlie Rose: When you write a book, it's not an easy task as you found out. 01:27 Eileen Rockefeller: No, it' not. But I have to say that the six years of writing it were a lot shorter than the 61 years it's taken me to become myself. 01:36Charlie Rose: Now what does that mean? Because 61 years is when you see yourself fully formed and that's just what it's about? 01:44 Eileen Rockefeller: Well, I hope I'll never be fully formed. But I'm evolved enough to be able to incorporate the Rockefeller as well as the Eileen. 01:51Charlie Rose: Is it hard to be a Rockefeller? 01:54 Eileen Rockefeller: Yes. 01:56Charlie Rose: Because much is expected? 02:00 Eileen Rockefeller: Much is expected. It's both a great opportunity and a challenge. And certainly I have received many, many benefits and along with them come the responsibilities of doing well.
https://charlierose.com/videos/17477
25 March 2018 05:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tuesday 11/10/1992
Former Chase Bank Chairman David Rockefeller talks politics, from economic challenges abroad to the future of his beloved New York City.
https://charlierose.com/videos/16556
Charlie Rose: David Rockefeller, former chairman of the Chase Manhattan bank, probably knows as many international leaders and important established figures as anyone. He joins us now to share his thoughts about the world, and about the United States, and about this city that he loves. Welcome. 00:20 David Rockefeller: Thank you very much, Charlie. 00:22Charlie Rose: It's a pleasure to have you here. Let me read something to you. I was struck by this. You say, "What New York represents is not just our destiny, but the country's destiny. It remains this country's center of creativity in nearly every field: painting, music, dance, theater, publishing, advertising, communications, and from time to time, we're lucky everyone sports." Not so lucky this year, but with the Knicks maybe so. "It has few if any rivals in the fields of higher education, medicine, and scientific research, yet New York is also a place of squalor, and illness, and illiteracy. Almost a quarter of New York residents and forty percent of New York children live in poverty," and you go onto say, "the city's infant mortality rate is over thirty-five percent higher than the national average." Given these (sounds) as you say, "You're still hopeful about the future, in part because you have faith in the enduring resilience and creativity of New Yorkers." Tell me what you think our future is and what you think the imperative is for this city to maintain its place in this country and as a shining light in the world? 01:19 David Rockefeller: I still believe all the things that you quoted me as having said. It is a great city and it, I believe, always will be. Does have many problems. I think the only hope for New York, as in the case of most of the problems that we face even in the country and the world, is that the public sector and the private sector have got to work together more effectively than they have in the past and I think that there have been some encouraging things that have happened in the city. I was involved, after I left the bank, in establishing a thing called the New York City Partnership, which tried to bring together all the elements of the private sector in the city, all the boroughs, and all the ethnic groups, as well as big and small business, to see how we can work effectively in working with government. We did a number of things in the field of housing and the field of employment which have been quite effective. Not all of that has been accomplished, in fact there's a long way to go, but I believe that that is the answer. 02:35Charlie Rose: Are the resources there from that relationship though, I mean where do we find the financial resources to do what is necessary to deal with the problems you talk about: squalor, and illness, and illiteracy, and the forty percent of New York children that live in poverty? What do we have to say to the private sector and what do we have to say to the citizens of New York? 02:58 David Rockefeller: I think that there has to be a cutting down in the expense of government. One of the problems of New York is that we spend more per capita through government than any other city in the country. Part of this is because we have a welfare system that is a very generous one but encourages people to come in who need help. 03:20Charlie Rose: From other places in the country where they're (inaudible) just not as generous? 03:25 David Rockefeller: Other places. Other places and other countries. That is clearly a problem but I think that we also have a government which spends more than it needs to. I think it plays a larger role in a number of aspects of the city's life than it needs to. 03:44Charlie Rose: Like what? 03:48 David Rockefeller: Well, for example take sanitation. I have a feeling that a lot could be done in reducing the cost of sanitation. One of the problems is the labor union negotiations which have resulted in sanitation workers spending only about four hours a day. I think there's got to be a change in that. I think it's quite possible that a lot of the work in the sanitation field could be done via the private sector.
Former Chase Bank Chairman David Rockefeller talks politics, from economic challenges abroad to the future of his beloved New York City.
https://charlierose.com/videos/16556
Charlie Rose: David Rockefeller, former chairman of the Chase Manhattan bank, probably knows as many international leaders and important established figures as anyone. He joins us now to share his thoughts about the world, and about the United States, and about this city that he loves. Welcome. 00:20 David Rockefeller: Thank you very much, Charlie. 00:22Charlie Rose: It's a pleasure to have you here. Let me read something to you. I was struck by this. You say, "What New York represents is not just our destiny, but the country's destiny. It remains this country's center of creativity in nearly every field: painting, music, dance, theater, publishing, advertising, communications, and from time to time, we're lucky everyone sports." Not so lucky this year, but with the Knicks maybe so. "It has few if any rivals in the fields of higher education, medicine, and scientific research, yet New York is also a place of squalor, and illness, and illiteracy. Almost a quarter of New York residents and forty percent of New York children live in poverty," and you go onto say, "the city's infant mortality rate is over thirty-five percent higher than the national average." Given these (sounds) as you say, "You're still hopeful about the future, in part because you have faith in the enduring resilience and creativity of New Yorkers." Tell me what you think our future is and what you think the imperative is for this city to maintain its place in this country and as a shining light in the world? 01:19 David Rockefeller: I still believe all the things that you quoted me as having said. It is a great city and it, I believe, always will be. Does have many problems. I think the only hope for New York, as in the case of most of the problems that we face even in the country and the world, is that the public sector and the private sector have got to work together more effectively than they have in the past and I think that there have been some encouraging things that have happened in the city. I was involved, after I left the bank, in establishing a thing called the New York City Partnership, which tried to bring together all the elements of the private sector in the city, all the boroughs, and all the ethnic groups, as well as big and small business, to see how we can work effectively in working with government. We did a number of things in the field of housing and the field of employment which have been quite effective. Not all of that has been accomplished, in fact there's a long way to go, but I believe that that is the answer. 02:35Charlie Rose: Are the resources there from that relationship though, I mean where do we find the financial resources to do what is necessary to deal with the problems you talk about: squalor, and illness, and illiteracy, and the forty percent of New York children that live in poverty? What do we have to say to the private sector and what do we have to say to the citizens of New York? 02:58 David Rockefeller: I think that there has to be a cutting down in the expense of government. One of the problems of New York is that we spend more per capita through government than any other city in the country. Part of this is because we have a welfare system that is a very generous one but encourages people to come in who need help. 03:20Charlie Rose: From other places in the country where they're (inaudible) just not as generous? 03:25 David Rockefeller: Other places. Other places and other countries. That is clearly a problem but I think that we also have a government which spends more than it needs to. I think it plays a larger role in a number of aspects of the city's life than it needs to. 03:44Charlie Rose: Like what? 03:48 David Rockefeller: Well, for example take sanitation. I have a feeling that a lot could be done in reducing the cost of sanitation. One of the problems is the labor union negotiations which have resulted in sanitation workers spending only about four hours a day. I think there's got to be a change in that. I think it's quite possible that a lot of the work in the sanitation field could be done via the private sector.
https://charlierose.com/videos/16556
25 March 2018 05:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Friday 06/10/2005
In honor of David Rockefeller's 90th birthday, Charlie presents excerpts from several conversations over the years.
https://charlierose.com/videos/28324
Unknown Speaker: Stay with us. David Rockefeller has made a number of appearances on this program. On June 12th, he will celebrate his 90th birthday. People in this city are celebrating it with him. And we are pleased to look back at some of his conversations with me as a birthday present for him. 00:18Charlie Rose: How do you explain, one, the family has been a prominent; B, it has survived, as other great American families, but none have maintained such a prominence in American life and have seemed to have carried such a commitment of payback? 00:36 David Rockefeller: Well, I think it's largely that we, my siblings and myself, had very good parents. I think mother and father complemented one another in a way that was very much to our benefit, and we were brought up to feel responsibility for the fact that we did have more than most people, and father always said, and I think rightly, that for every opportunity goes in obligation. And I think that without preaching that in an offensive way, we have felt that responsibility and also have had great opportunities. 01:20Charlie Rose: He imposed a sense of frugality, from what I read. 01:24 David Rockefeller: Yes, he did. But I think he -- he married a wonderful person, my mother, who brought perhaps a little more humanity and humor and sense of fun than perhaps father was brought up with, and the combination of the two I think has worked well. 01:40Charlie Rose: Her father was a senator from Rhode Island. 01:42 David Rockefeller: Her father was a senator, Republican
In honor of David Rockefeller's 90th birthday, Charlie presents excerpts from several conversations over the years.
https://charlierose.com/videos/28324
Unknown Speaker: Stay with us. David Rockefeller has made a number of appearances on this program. On June 12th, he will celebrate his 90th birthday. People in this city are celebrating it with him. And we are pleased to look back at some of his conversations with me as a birthday present for him. 00:18Charlie Rose: How do you explain, one, the family has been a prominent; B, it has survived, as other great American families, but none have maintained such a prominence in American life and have seemed to have carried such a commitment of payback? 00:36 David Rockefeller: Well, I think it's largely that we, my siblings and myself, had very good parents. I think mother and father complemented one another in a way that was very much to our benefit, and we were brought up to feel responsibility for the fact that we did have more than most people, and father always said, and I think rightly, that for every opportunity goes in obligation. And I think that without preaching that in an offensive way, we have felt that responsibility and also have had great opportunities. 01:20Charlie Rose: He imposed a sense of frugality, from what I read. 01:24 David Rockefeller: Yes, he did. But I think he -- he married a wonderful person, my mother, who brought perhaps a little more humanity and humor and sense of fun than perhaps father was brought up with, and the combination of the two I think has worked well. 01:40Charlie Rose: Her father was a senator from Rhode Island. 01:42 David Rockefeller: Her father was a senator, Republican
https://charlierose.com/videos/28324
25 March 2018 05:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Thursday 03/23/2006
David Rockefeller, philanthropist and art collector, joins Charlie at the Rockefeller's exhibit celebrating the family's collection of Asian art to share his memories of his parents and their love for Asia.
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https://charlierose.com/videos/10710
Charlie Rose: tells the story of the five generations of the Rockefeller family and their contribution as collectors of Asian art. Entitled "A Passion for Asia: The Rockefeller Family Collects," the exhibit includes 150 sculptures, porcelain, decorative art, paintings, and textiles. Two of the galleries will be open until May 14th, and two others will remain open until September 3rd. I spoke with two people behind this exhibit. One is David Rockefeller, the other is Vishakha Desai, the president of the Asia Society. We began with a conversation with David Rockefeller about himself and his family and their love of Asia. This is what is the archival room, celebrating the 50th anniversary of the Asia Society. 00:37 David Rockefeller: Yes. 00:39Charlie Rose: Tell me about the family and the connection, back to your father and your mother, and the connection to Asia. 00:45 David Rockefeller: First connection that I remember very vividly was back in 1926. I was only -- yes, it was '26. I was only 11 years old, and my parents took a boat, which you had to in those days because there weren't any planes -- and went to China for the dedication of the Peking Union Medical College, which was the first medical college, or, indeed, really, good hospital, in China. And they went to the opening of it because that had been given by my father. And I remember very well, they were away three months, and I as a child, missed them very much. They came back and brought me a wonderful kimono and other things from China, so that helped. 01:15Charlie Rose: You have said that your mother probably taught you more about art than all of the curators, all the instructors, all the professors. 01:21 David Rockefeller: I think she did, both in talking, but perhaps even more in what she had, the beautiful things that she bought from all over the world, and she would tell me about them. 01:30Charlie Rose: And your brother continued this connection to Asia. 01:34 David Rockefeller: My brother, John, became very interested in Asia, first on a trip around the world that he took for the man who was head of the Foreign Policy Association, James C. McDonald -- 01:42Charlie Rose: This was right after he got out of Princeton.
David Rockefeller, philanthropist and art collector, joins Charlie at the Rockefeller's exhibit celebrating the family's collection of Asian art to share his memories of his parents and their love for Asia.
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https://charlierose.com/videos/10710
Charlie Rose: tells the story of the five generations of the Rockefeller family and their contribution as collectors of Asian art. Entitled "A Passion for Asia: The Rockefeller Family Collects," the exhibit includes 150 sculptures, porcelain, decorative art, paintings, and textiles. Two of the galleries will be open until May 14th, and two others will remain open until September 3rd. I spoke with two people behind this exhibit. One is David Rockefeller, the other is Vishakha Desai, the president of the Asia Society. We began with a conversation with David Rockefeller about himself and his family and their love of Asia. This is what is the archival room, celebrating the 50th anniversary of the Asia Society. 00:37 David Rockefeller: Yes. 00:39Charlie Rose: Tell me about the family and the connection, back to your father and your mother, and the connection to Asia. 00:45 David Rockefeller: First connection that I remember very vividly was back in 1926. I was only -- yes, it was '26. I was only 11 years old, and my parents took a boat, which you had to in those days because there weren't any planes -- and went to China for the dedication of the Peking Union Medical College, which was the first medical college, or, indeed, really, good hospital, in China. And they went to the opening of it because that had been given by my father. And I remember very well, they were away three months, and I as a child, missed them very much. They came back and brought me a wonderful kimono and other things from China, so that helped. 01:15Charlie Rose: You have said that your mother probably taught you more about art than all of the curators, all the instructors, all the professors. 01:21 David Rockefeller: I think she did, both in talking, but perhaps even more in what she had, the beautiful things that she bought from all over the world, and she would tell me about them. 01:30Charlie Rose: And your brother continued this connection to Asia. 01:34 David Rockefeller: My brother, John, became very interested in Asia, first on a trip around the world that he took for the man who was head of the Foreign Policy Association, James C. McDonald -- 01:42Charlie Rose: This was right after he got out of Princeton.
https://charlierose.com/videos/10710
25 March 2018 05:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi tasub ka Riik 1 ja ka muud Sõnaseeriad kuulata:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkXix3Byvpo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkXix3Byvpo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkXix3Byvpo
25 March 2018 05:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja tihtipeale, mis on olnud ones, on juba olnud,
kui just polnud see nii, et on tulemas,
Kuid nüüd meie maailma osas, kuhu veel füüsiliselt see reaalsus pole jõudnud, mis arvate, mida saavad teha Sinu südamepooled, et seda reaalsust paremaks pöörata?
jah, saab, ainuüksi uskudes ja tehes kõike paremaks mida teepeal näed, nii selleks, et teised pidama jääks kes Sinust paremad kui ka seda, et Sa ise jääksid, et saaksid rohkem, paremaid aidata, endast kauem olema.
kui just polnud see nii, et on tulemas,
Kuid nüüd meie maailma osas, kuhu veel füüsiliselt see reaalsus pole jõudnud, mis arvate, mida saavad teha Sinu südamepooled, et seda reaalsust paremaks pöörata?
jah, saab, ainuüksi uskudes ja tehes kõike paremaks mida teepeal näed, nii selleks, et teised pidama jääks kes Sinust paremad kui ka seda, et Sa ise jääksid, et saaksid rohkem, paremaid aidata, endast kauem olema.
25 March 2018 05:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
25 March 2018 05:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
NU kaudselt, kuid suuremalt kui:
http://objektiiv.ee/ordo-militaris-rajati-uus-militaarordu-kristlaste-kaitseks/
" Ordu asutati USA-s kehtivate seaduste alusel mittetulundusliku sõjaväelise eraettevõttena (private military company), mille liikmeteks on sügavalt juurdunud katoliiklike tõekspidamistega mehed. Ordu asutajaks on frantsiskaani eremiit, vend Alexis Bugnolo.
Praegusel ajal töötab ordu oma treeninglaagri asutamise ja ülesehitamise nimel, et valmistada oma liikmetest sõdureid ette missioonidele saatmiseks. Selleks puhuks kogutakse toetajatelt annetusi. Orduga on juba liitunud nii tegevteenistuses olevaid kui ka erruläinud sõjaväelasi nii USA-st, Kanadast kui ka Hispaaniast ning kontakte luuakse mitmetes teistes Euroopa riikides, kaasa arvatud Prantsusmaal, Itaalias ja Leedus.
Ordu sõjalisi operatsioone hakkab ellu viima mitte vaimulikkond, vaid asjakohast ettevalmistust omav militaarne personal, mille ülesandeks on lahinguväljaõppe tagamine uutele liitujatele.
http://objektiiv.ee/ordo-militaris-rajati-uus-militaarordu-kristlaste-kaitseks/
" Ordu asutati USA-s kehtivate seaduste alusel mittetulundusliku sõjaväelise eraettevõttena (private military company), mille liikmeteks on sügavalt juurdunud katoliiklike tõekspidamistega mehed. Ordu asutajaks on frantsiskaani eremiit, vend Alexis Bugnolo.
Praegusel ajal töötab ordu oma treeninglaagri asutamise ja ülesehitamise nimel, et valmistada oma liikmetest sõdureid ette missioonidele saatmiseks. Selleks puhuks kogutakse toetajatelt annetusi. Orduga on juba liitunud nii tegevteenistuses olevaid kui ka erruläinud sõjaväelasi nii USA-st, Kanadast kui ka Hispaaniast ning kontakte luuakse mitmetes teistes Euroopa riikides, kaasa arvatud Prantsusmaal, Itaalias ja Leedus.
Ordu sõjalisi operatsioone hakkab ellu viima mitte vaimulikkond, vaid asjakohast ettevalmistust omav militaarne personal, mille ülesandeks on lahinguväljaõppe tagamine uutele liitujatele.
http://objektiiv.ee/ordo-militaris-rajati-uus-militaarordu-kristlaste-kaitseks/
25 March 2018 05:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ka siin:
http://bit.ly/KaitseLiit (Miltaar.net Kaitseliit )
http://bit.ly/KaitseLiit (Miltaar.net Kaitseliit )
http://bit.ly/KaitseLiit
25 March 2018 05:27
Margus Meigo commented on Herman Ebber's post.
Group: Ajakirjandus- ja reklaamipärleid meilt ja mujalt
Kasutage ikka uBlockerit vms,
need kes pogenesid algsest Adblocki tiimist, et ausat toodet edasi teha.
Kuid nu jah, osad need addonig ongi, ainult reklaami mottega25 March 2018 04:15
Margus Meigo commented on Merit Mihklepp's post.
Group: Ajakirjandus- ja reklaamipärleid meilt ja mujalt
Militaarofiilia?25 March 2018 04:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Arutlusi ka siin:
http://www.militaar.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=24068&start=0
http://www.militaar.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=24068&start=0
http://www.militaar.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=24068&start=0
24 March 2018 23:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja siis sellised tegelased nagu .. saavad sõna ilma, et neid viisakalt saaks korrale kutsutud:
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/arvamus/andrus-kivirahk-kristlased-ja-kirik?id=66071906&com=1&no=320
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/arvamus/andrus-kivirahk-kristlased-ja-kirik?id=66071906&com=1&no=320
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/arvamus/andrus-kivirahk-kristlased-ja-kirik?id=66071906&com=1&no=320
24 March 2018 23:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid eks on väga suur hulk erinevaid tugevusi ja nõrkusi,
oleneb kes mida oskab vaadata ja kes teab mida vaatab, kes mida ignoreerib ja kellel mis nõrkus või tugevus mingi armsuse või millegi muuna tundub
oleneb kes mida oskab vaadata ja kes teab mida vaatab, kes mida ignoreerib ja kellel mis nõrkus või tugevus mingi armsuse või millegi muuna tundub
24 March 2018 20:09
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Täpselt sama aga vastupidi on ka teistliiki meestel, kui ainult kindla naise jaoks, et ülejäänud maailma osas saaks olla see milleks loodud,
eks oleneb liigist,
Kuid üldiselt endapuhul suht raske isegi tugevuse algust olnud kellegitel väljakannatada, ükskõik kui nõrka proovida mängida
eks oleneb liigist,
Kuid üldiselt endapuhul suht raske isegi tugevuse algust olnud kellegitel väljakannatada, ükskõik kui nõrka proovida mängida
24 March 2018 20:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aaap see ikka on põhipilt : )
24 March 2018 19:11
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
NU suts lapsele ka ikka tähelepanu tasuks.. ja lapsele saab pisik ka mujalt ligi hiilida ka.. kuid yeah,
24 March 2018 19:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
südames ainult loodan, et nad ise teavad misteeva,d (loomad) ja nad meeleg,a miskit head teevad, vajalikku, teadlikult meil puurides, ... muidu oleks ikka paras suur koorem... ja tuleks need looma poed kõik pahupidi keerata
24 March 2018 19:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei saa vaadata neid asju nii kurb ja pahuraks teeb
24 March 2018 19:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
pigem vastupidi
24 March 2018 19:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Oh vaene hiir.... Nu tegelikult kas .. me ikka motleme.. et mis me teeme.. .. kui inimestel endal meeldib elada ainult ühes mones ruutmeetilises karbis see iseai.. aga ega inimesetki.. ikka poes ka käivad ja mujal.. kuid loomad... linnud jms.. nu kuidas eeldame, et nende meeled on nii piiratud ja ei ole neil oma elus muud väärtust kui aegajalt meie silmarõõmuks orjadena kuskil vandis olla
24 March 2018 19:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Seda küll jah
24 March 2018 19:04
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Kassi loomu ja koera südame
24 March 2018 19:02
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
oot Oot kus See äpp selle pildi sai?
24 March 2018 19:02
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Same time another kind of biggest mistakes we do is to assume, people think different then we do in what we need and want
24 March 2018 19:00
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's photo.
Aktiivne maatüdruk ja esinduslik samal ajal, 5+
24 March 2018 18:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
On see Sinust värske pilt?
24 March 2018 18:52
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's photo.
Äärmiselt ilus
Mulle väga meeldib, see stiil, või nuh. .see päris olek.
Mulle väga meeldib, see stiil, või nuh. .see päris olek.
24 March 2018 18:52
Margus Meigo commented on Felix Enciso Rojas Enciso's post.
Oh.. remeber the age.. when jesus still had a proper beard... as Nazarites should..
24 March 2018 18:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Gabriel Jaansalu Väga hea, tänud!
Vaat milline maailm on, see umbes nagu üks Eesti mentaalse tervise riiklik tipp avastas, et nende tervisliku toidu suurimad promojad, kellel videokanal ja kallis komuun, promovad samal ajal minu maailmas, paraleelis, CNN Money kaoud LSD d :D
( googl: cnn money lsd sillicon valley ) : )
Vaat milline maailm on, see umbes nagu üks Eesti mentaalse tervise riiklik tipp avastas, et nende tervisliku toidu suurimad promojad, kellel videokanal ja kallis komuun, promovad samal ajal minu maailmas, paraleelis, CNN Money kaoud LSD d :D
( googl: cnn money lsd sillicon valley ) : )
24 March 2018 18:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ku isaad moned lingid siia visata mis silma jäänud Sul nodega vblogidest jms, siis võid täitsa lisada mingiaeg, siis jääb mul siia järjehoidjasse, kunagi tsekkaks,
mõtlesin, et kutsuks nad peale tegema ja miskit ajsalikku juttu ajama mingiaeg
mõtlesin, et kutsuks nad peale tegema ja miskit ajsalikku juttu ajama mingiaeg
24 March 2018 17:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aa, nu maailmas on paar, kolm maailma juhtivat perekonda,
kes kontrollivad enamust kogu rahasüsteemist ja poliitikast, demokraatia leiutajad, Rooma impeeriumi järeltuliad, ameerika ja euroopa omanikud jms,
Et nad mul tundus, nende perekondade tippude päris lähedased olema peaks.
nad sellised ,keda meedias eriti nägema ei peaks kuna nad ise ka enamuste meediate ja seaduste omanikud,
ja nad enamasti jätavad mulje, et sellised ossid nagu Trump v Ratas siin ajavad asju, kuid nad ise paraleel elu elavad, nu räägitakse, et veel otseste tulnuk ja muude olendite kontaktid kes maakera vallutavad, kuid see teema kisuks liialt Telekrammiks kui proovida lahti mõtestada, :D
Piibli, usklikute arvates, and nende langenud inglite järeltuliad kes siin maakera juhtima jäetud.. ja siis teoorias nad peaksid pealekasvuna need olema, kes oma isade asemel hiljem kaardinatagant showd juhivad
ple küll ise Telekrammi lugeja, kuid esimene mis silma jäi:
https://www.telegram.ee/nwo/kes-on-rothschildid-pilguheit-eliitperekonna-ajalukku-i-osa
Kuid nad geniitavad ka üle samas veel suuremad ja ulmelisemad tõed välja jättes, st mitte ei anna need meie portaalid ka praktilist infot, mida peale hakata ja kuidas oma kultuuri tegeliult kaitsta ja koostööd luua
kes kontrollivad enamust kogu rahasüsteemist ja poliitikast, demokraatia leiutajad, Rooma impeeriumi järeltuliad, ameerika ja euroopa omanikud jms,
Et nad mul tundus, nende perekondade tippude päris lähedased olema peaks.
nad sellised ,keda meedias eriti nägema ei peaks kuna nad ise ka enamuste meediate ja seaduste omanikud,
ja nad enamasti jätavad mulje, et sellised ossid nagu Trump v Ratas siin ajavad asju, kuid nad ise paraleel elu elavad, nu räägitakse, et veel otseste tulnuk ja muude olendite kontaktid kes maakera vallutavad, kuid see teema kisuks liialt Telekrammiks kui proovida lahti mõtestada, :D
Piibli, usklikute arvates, and nende langenud inglite järeltuliad kes siin maakera juhtima jäetud.. ja siis teoorias nad peaksid pealekasvuna need olema, kes oma isade asemel hiljem kaardinatagant showd juhivad
ple küll ise Telekrammi lugeja, kuid esimene mis silma jäi:
https://www.telegram.ee/nwo/kes-on-rothschildid-pilguheit-eliitperekonna-ajalukku-i-osa
Kuid nad geniitavad ka üle samas veel suuremad ja ulmelisemad tõed välja jättes, st mitte ei anna need meie portaalid ka praktilist infot, mida peale hakata ja kuidas oma kultuuri tegeliult kaitsta ja koostööd luua
https://www.telegram.ee/nwo/kes-on-rothschildid-pilguheit-eliitperekonna-ajalukku-i-osa
24 March 2018 17:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu Rocafelleri nime ika tead ju :D
24 March 2018 17:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nad nende maailma juhtijate reaalsed pojad ikka eks ?
24 March 2018 17:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
asuu asuu ei nu mul pole aega uurida sedasi,
st. uuringi praegu asjatundja käest,
Ma hoopis muudel põhjustel muud pidi nad kunagi oma kontakti sain siis vaatasin,, et tuttavad näeod
st. uuringi praegu asjatundja käest,
Ma hoopis muudel põhjustel muud pidi nad kunagi oma kontakti sain siis vaatasin,, et tuttavad näeod
24 March 2018 17:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Gabriel Jaansalu aaap mis nad sääl teevad?
24 March 2018 17:00
Margus Meigo commented on Alexander Rockefeller Rothschild's photo.
Ya look now even better, upgrade Upgrade, profiler! : ))
24 March 2018 16:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Gabriel Jaansalu aga kes nad Pop meedias on, st kuidas te neid teate?
24 March 2018 16:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=417076445359856&set=a.126388737761963.1073741829.100011725124929&type=3&theater
24 March 2018 16:52
Margus Meigo commented on Gabriel Jaansalu's post.
Hey kle kas need on nood kutid:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=187127468490037&set=a.116604268875691.1073741828.100015783555634&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=187127468490037&set=a.116604268875691.1073741828.100015783555634&type=3&theater
24 March 2018 16:52
Margus Meigo commented on Mirjam Tamm's photo.
Nu endiselt jääb silma, nu eks to nii tehtud ka , et jääks
24 March 2018 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on Gabriel Jaansalu's post.
siinkohal tule meelde Jospi Stalini poja lugu:
"As a result of the permanent conflicts, the deeply hurt young man attempted suicide in Stalin home. The bullet pierced his lung but missed his heart. This prompted the dictator to make the sarcastic remark: “You couldn’t even do this properly”."
"As a result of the permanent conflicts, the deeply hurt young man attempted suicide in Stalin home. The bullet pierced his lung but missed his heart. This prompted the dictator to make the sarcastic remark: “You couldn’t even do this properly”."
24 March 2018 16:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid enne kui ise veel paremaks pole aidanud, saanud teha seda kõike veel, ei taus ülearu ka laiata.. nu eks jõuab veel, kõike
24 March 2018 04:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
flirtiku kood ka suts postiivsemalt mojuma hakanud kuid see kasutamata potensiaal ikkagi minu visiooni kohaselt
24 March 2018 04:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kuidas
24 March 2018 04:10
Margus Meigo commented on He Le's post.
Vb,
Olulisem aga veelgi vaja teada, mida vaja unistada
Olulisem aga veelgi vaja teada, mida vaja unistada
24 March 2018 04:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid selle teemaga sügavamalt eip hakka liituma praegu
24 March 2018 04:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
veel mitmeid millel häib baase ja osasi nyansse kudi mis peagi väär promise ja väär mamgmentdi tõttu luhtunud
venkudel ka päris , paar tuntavalt head asja selles appis mida nad haapsalu.net peal kasutavad,
neil üldse, meili ja muud portaalid ka väga asjalikud mis riigi tasemel omatud suures plaanis
venkudel ka päris , paar tuntavalt head asja selles appis mida nad haapsalu.net peal kasutavad,
neil üldse, meili ja muud portaalid ka väga asjalikud mis riigi tasemel omatud suures plaanis
http://haapsalu.net/
24 March 2018 04:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
siiani kõige mõistlikum, andeksantavate vigadega on sillicon walley date app, mis nad vist algselt oma inimestele tegid, kuid toimib ka teistele,
osasi nüansse esimest korda nägin neil' millele ise polnud veel tulnutki & vvärvilahendused, välimused, enamus suht soliidne ja viisakas
osasi nüansse esimest korda nägin neil' millele ise polnud veel tulnutki & vvärvilahendused, välimused, enamus suht soliidne ja viisakas
24 March 2018 04:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
specialy in so safe app as tinder,
is not like "whipe stranger in dark corner Dod com " or something
is not like "whipe stranger in dark corner Dod com " or something
24 March 2018 04:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
well, one must be pretty dark person to have dark secrets , first of all
24 March 2018 03:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yeah, thats elementary, :
// if people would understand for what socviet scientist can & plan to use this data.. thsi would freak..some ..but most would not comprahend..
"A 2017 report showed that Tinder stores all messages, locations, times, characteristics of people who interest you or are interested in you, length of time people spend looking at a picture, amounting to hundreds of pages of detail"
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/26/tinder-personal-data-dating-app-messages-hacked-sold
// if people would understand for what socviet scientist can & plan to use this data.. thsi would freak..some ..but most would not comprahend..
"A 2017 report showed that Tinder stores all messages, locations, times, characteristics of people who interest you or are interested in you, length of time people spend looking at a picture, amounting to hundreds of pages of detail"
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/26/tinder-personal-data-dating-app-messages-hacked-sold
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/26/tinder-personal-data-dating-app-messages-hacked-sold
24 March 2018 03:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mis nagu sellised paarid elavad koos, kellel polegi üksteise online tegevuse osas täielikku ülevaadet ?
Ahjaa.. privaatsuse ajastu... kus seksi ei peeta privaatseks aga seda is kellegi mobiilis asub v mida oma kaaslane neti s teeb ...seda peetakse eraelusk ja privaatsuseks mida vaja hoida... et yksteisest eemal hoida
sueciidne suund, kuid eks sobib tulnaritele kes need langenud õied hemaeelga kokku korjab ja omaks kasutuseks paneb
Ahjaa.. privaatsuse ajastu... kus seksi ei peeta privaatseks aga seda is kellegi mobiilis asub v mida oma kaaslane neti s teeb ...seda peetakse eraelusk ja privaatsuseks mida vaja hoida... et yksteisest eemal hoida
sueciidne suund, kuid eks sobib tulnaritele kes need langenud õied hemaeelga kokku korjab ja omaks kasutuseks paneb
24 March 2018 03:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
midagi asjalikku ka tehakse:
In March 2016, a website called Swipebuster was launched, which allows anyone to see how recently someone else logged on to Tinder, at a cost of $4.99 for every three searches.[73] Vanity Fair was the first to report on the service, in an article titled "Here's How You Can Check if Your Partner Is Cheating on Tinder," and Swipebuster subsequently received extensive media coverage for being the first searchable database of Tinder users.[74][75] The Guardian explained how Swipebuster works: "[I]t doesn't [identify users] by hacking into Tinder, or even by 'scraping' the app manually. Instead, it searches the database using Tinder's official API, which is intended for use by third-party developers who want to write software that plugs in with the site. All the information that it can reveal is considered public by the company, and revealed through the API with few safeguards
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/06/new-app-designed-to-bust-tinder-users.html
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/apr/05/tinder-swipebuster-spy-on-users-privacy-dating-app
In March 2016, a website called Swipebuster was launched, which allows anyone to see how recently someone else logged on to Tinder, at a cost of $4.99 for every three searches.[73] Vanity Fair was the first to report on the service, in an article titled "Here's How You Can Check if Your Partner Is Cheating on Tinder," and Swipebuster subsequently received extensive media coverage for being the first searchable database of Tinder users.[74][75] The Guardian explained how Swipebuster works: "[I]t doesn't [identify users] by hacking into Tinder, or even by 'scraping' the app manually. Instead, it searches the database using Tinder's official API, which is intended for use by third-party developers who want to write software that plugs in with the site. All the information that it can reveal is considered public by the company, and revealed through the API with few safeguards
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/06/new-app-designed-to-bust-tinder-users.html
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/apr/05/tinder-swipebuster-spy-on-users-privacy-dating-app
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/06/new-app-designed-to-bust-tinder-users.html
24 March 2018 03:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
no wonder
" "One dimension of [dating apps like Tinder] is the impact it has on men's psychology. When there is ... a perceived surplus of women, the whole mating system tends to shift towards short-term dating"[69] and there is a feeling of disconnect when choosing future partners.[70] CEO Sean Rad has said that Tinder removes the "friction" associated with walking up to someone and introducing oneself.[71] Nancy Jo Sales wrote in Vanity Fair that Tinder operates within a culture of users seeking sex without relationships.[20] Health officials from Rhode Island and Utah claimed that Tinder and similar apps are responsible for uptick of some STDs.[72]"
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2015/08/tinder-hook-up-culture-end-of-dating
" "One dimension of [dating apps like Tinder] is the impact it has on men's psychology. When there is ... a perceived surplus of women, the whole mating system tends to shift towards short-term dating"[69] and there is a feeling of disconnect when choosing future partners.[70] CEO Sean Rad has said that Tinder removes the "friction" associated with walking up to someone and introducing oneself.[71] Nancy Jo Sales wrote in Vanity Fair that Tinder operates within a culture of users seeking sex without relationships.[20] Health officials from Rhode Island and Utah claimed that Tinder and similar apps are responsible for uptick of some STDs.[72]"
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2015/08/tinder-hook-up-culture-end-of-dating
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2015/08/tinder-hook-up-culture-end-of-dating
24 March 2018 03:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mitte ainult hapud viinamarjad kuid nagu aarrgh mida kõike head saaks teha selliste baaside ja kasutustega aga,,,
24 March 2018 03:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
lisaks:
"In 2017, Texas Tech Department of Communications Studies conducted a study to see how infidelity was connected to the Tinder app. The experiment was conducted on 550 students from an unnamed southwestern U.S. University. The students first gave their demographic and then answered questions regarding Tinder’s link to infidelity. The results showed that “more than half reported having seen somebody on Tinder who they knew was in an exclusive relationship (63.9%).” 71.3% of participants reported that they knew male friends who used Tinder while in a relationship, and 56.1% reported that they had female friends who used Tinder while in a relationship
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Weiser, Dana A., et al.. "Swiping Right: Sociosexuality, Intentions to Engage In Infidelity, and Infidelity Experiences On Tinder." Personality and Individual Differences, 2017.
"In 2017, Texas Tech Department of Communications Studies conducted a study to see how infidelity was connected to the Tinder app. The experiment was conducted on 550 students from an unnamed southwestern U.S. University. The students first gave their demographic and then answered questions regarding Tinder’s link to infidelity. The results showed that “more than half reported having seen somebody on Tinder who they knew was in an exclusive relationship (63.9%).” 71.3% of participants reported that they knew male friends who used Tinder while in a relationship, and 56.1% reported that they had female friends who used Tinder while in a relationship
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Weiser, Dana A., et al.. "Swiping Right: Sociosexuality, Intentions to Engage In Infidelity, and Infidelity Experiences On Tinder." Personality and Individual Differences, 2017.
24 March 2018 03:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja elektroonikapõhise lahendaja valmisaades saaks ka toota elektrooniak välise lahenduse "kaardid"
kuigi, eks see osalt tehtud, niihästi kui lubatud, piibligi näol, kuid .. vaja veel seda, seda milleks me loodud oleme
kuigi, eks see osalt tehtud, niihästi kui lubatud, piibligi näol, kuid .. vaja veel seda, seda milleks me loodud oleme
24 March 2018 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
va. see osa, et mu resscue missioni sooviad on kujutuslikud ja lootuse-usu põhine ning usutav olulisus mis kasu see tooks enamusele on lihtlasti kujutletav kuid hoomamatu ja arvestatavalt midagi mida ma ise näha ei saa ega pole lootnutki, pigem rahul kui tehtud saab, loodud saab mida suure osa elus endas kaasas kandnud ja arendanud, selleks, et see jääks kõikide praeguste lihtsate ja oletavate multidimensionaalsete murede lahenduseks, easy
24 March 2018 02:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
eip siin ple veel seda 7't mis laadimisel oli aga nu las praegu olla
23 March 2018 20:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
väga lihtne isegi teatud skripte aktiviseerida kodulehe sees mis teatud browser jms ID de peal sedasi asja toimima panevad märkamatult. .et ei toimigi peaaegu.. ja neid saab sisse välja lülitada ka suht kergelt kontrollerite poolt
23 March 2018 20:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see ei putu kyll minusse praegu kuid täiesti legaalsed vahedid "Pehemeks vasturelvastuseks" on olemas, kus erinevad agentuurid saaavad saata signaale nii neti pakkujale kui portaalilidele osadele, kes mingil lehel olevat tööd või lehe liiklust legaalselt aeglustada saavad
// kuid see juba teine lugu.. kunagi kui suurem armaada tehnoloogiat seljataga siis näitab neid asju mis moodi tollaseid asju aktiviseerida ja "triggerd" ada saab.. ning kuidas paraleel ühendusel samal ajal asjad toimivad muude kontodega.... aga teatud märgistusega tegevused ja profiilid netis, neil igast takistusi tuleb,
kuid nagu ütlesin, see ei puutu minusse praegu.. liuhtsalt. asjakohane see märge siia tuua panna
// kuid see juba teine lugu.. kunagi kui suurem armaada tehnoloogiat seljataga siis näitab neid asju mis moodi tollaseid asju aktiviseerida ja "triggerd" ada saab.. ning kuidas paraleel ühendusel samal ajal asjad toimivad muude kontodega.... aga teatud märgistusega tegevused ja profiilid netis, neil igast takistusi tuleb,
kuid nagu ütlesin, see ei puutu minusse praegu.. liuhtsalt. asjakohane see märge siia tuua panna
23 March 2018 20:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
23 March 2018 20:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
23 March 2018 20:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Teine varjant algse poja osas, suht sarnane:
"Stalin and he's son relationship came to a breaking point in 1925, when Yakov began living with the daughter of an Orthodox priest, Zoya Gunina. The outraged Stalin, however, refused to accept the young woman, who had formerly been a classmate of Yakov. As a result of the permanent conflicts, the deeply hurt young man attempted suicide. The bullet pierced his lung but missed his heart. This prompted the dictator to make the sarcastic remark: “You couldn’t even do this properly”."
"Stalin and he's son relationship came to a breaking point in 1925, when Yakov began living with the daughter of an Orthodox priest, Zoya Gunina. The outraged Stalin, however, refused to accept the young woman, who had formerly been a classmate of Yakov. As a result of the permanent conflicts, the deeply hurt young man attempted suicide. The bullet pierced his lung but missed his heart. This prompted the dictator to make the sarcastic remark: “You couldn’t even do this properly”."
23 March 2018 20:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid kaudses mõttes ,juba immortal technique jms mis paar posti all räpipostis, ettelaotud, et nendes suunades ka ... er iharudes, negatiivseid versioone massiliselt levib,
kuid kui nad sele negatiivsuse ja inspiratsioonilise ideioloogilise positiivsuse ühendavad.. kes teab kes teab mis säält tulla saab
kuid kui nad sele negatiivsuse ja inspiratsioonilise ideioloogilise positiivsuse ühendavad.. kes teab kes teab mis säält tulla saab
23 March 2018 20:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või siis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--2vOCcMV9k
Ei julge naerda ka enne ku iei tea , kas siiras asi või naljane asi, kuni lopuni
// ses osas, et vahest socialistas ise naeravad ka oma ürituse üle, kuid veel eip tea jah, mis puu lapsed
Ei julge naerda ka enne ku iei tea , kas siiras asi või naljane asi, kuni lopuni
// ses osas, et vahest socialistas ise naeravad ka oma ürituse üle, kuid veel eip tea jah, mis puu lapsed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--2vOCcMV9k
23 March 2018 20:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Paar sotsalisti räppi leidsime, kuid päris ei saanud aru kas see pila või üritus :D
Kuid internatsionaali räpin ise sisse, pole küll räppar kuid nu kui ei ole kedagi, lihtssalt tunnetust tuli ,et täitsa peaks võimalik olema, lihtsalt reavahed ja üleminekud teised, milline kolmest versioonist.. veel vaatab... kuid väärt üritus oleks ikka see enne "täppida" kui keegi muu üritab mus suunas
/links: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pJWMbQ0U0I
Kuid internatsionaali räpin ise sisse, pole küll räppar kuid nu kui ei ole kedagi, lihtssalt tunnetust tuli ,et täitsa peaks võimalik olema, lihtsalt reavahed ja üleminekud teised, milline kolmest versioonist.. veel vaatab... kuid väärt üritus oleks ikka see enne "täppida" kui keegi muu üritab mus suunas
/links: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pJWMbQ0U0I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pJWMbQ0U0I
23 March 2018 20:07
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
NU et siis vanasti saadi 800 toosi tikke ostetud päeva tasu eest (mitte, et need tikud siin mõistlik arvutusse tuua oleks ainufaktorina)
ja tänapäeval kui 10euri tunnis inimene.. palka saab siis saab juba odavamaid tikke üle 2000 toosi osta,
seega
ka tikkude põhjal, saab vaadata, et inimestel tänapäeval elu odavam, isegi tikud on odavamad, mitte mingi utoopiline 1500 korda kallim nagu arvutati siin artiklis kellegi poolt.
ses osas jok
ja tänapäeval kui 10euri tunnis inimene.. palka saab siis saab juba odavamaid tikke üle 2000 toosi osta,
seega
ka tikkude põhjal, saab vaadata, et inimestel tänapäeval elu odavam, isegi tikud on odavamad, mitte mingi utoopiline 1500 korda kallim nagu arvutati siin artiklis kellegi poolt.
ses osas jok
23 March 2018 19:25
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Sest enamus ikka rohkem kui 20 eur päevas teenivad ka ju
23 March 2018 19:19
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
nu ma niigi võtsin sis varuga ja see mote mida tõestada soovisin, on veelgi enam see sama mis ütlesin
23 March 2018 19:19
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
esiteks nad arvutavad vigaselt ja mööda
ja krooni hinnast nad ka ei arvuta,
kuid kui päevapalk praegu on 20 eurot,
ja vanasti 10 rubla lihttöölisel,
siis vanasti sai osta 1000 toosi päevas ja praegu 100 doosi,
ehk siis 10 kordne erinevus max, tiku osas,
mitte 1565 korda .
mis looogikaga ta neid asju krooonideks arvutab, mis kasu sellest on, siin 100 valuutat olla võis vahepeal, nu on ülikooli ajud.
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võrrelda tuleks aga ka muu tehnika, teenuste ja toitude hinda, siis mitmes osas ilma kaahtluseta oleks elu odavam, selle hinavõrdlus määtrixi ma ammu teha plaaninud kus saaks andmeid välja tõmmata kommunistliku ja "kapitalistliku" maailma hinnavõrdluse osas erinevas aaastas eri asjadevahel , baas mis täieneks pidevalt,
+ saadavus ka
ja krooni hinnast nad ka ei arvuta,
kuid kui päevapalk praegu on 20 eurot,
ja vanasti 10 rubla lihttöölisel,
siis vanasti sai osta 1000 toosi päevas ja praegu 100 doosi,
ehk siis 10 kordne erinevus max, tiku osas,
mitte 1565 korda .
mis looogikaga ta neid asju krooonideks arvutab, mis kasu sellest on, siin 100 valuutat olla võis vahepeal, nu on ülikooli ajud.
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võrrelda tuleks aga ka muu tehnika, teenuste ja toitude hinda, siis mitmes osas ilma kaahtluseta oleks elu odavam, selle hinavõrdlus määtrixi ma ammu teha plaaninud kus saaks andmeid välja tõmmata kommunistliku ja "kapitalistliku" maailma hinnavõrdluse osas erinevas aaastas eri asjadevahel , baas mis täieneks pidevalt,
+ saadavus ka
23 March 2018 18:07
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
uurin texti,
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Aivar Aotäht
aivar.aotaht@ajaleht.ee Elvas emal külas käinud Viljandi ajakirjanik Kaie Mölter haaras harjumuspäraselt pliidi kõrvalt tikutoosi ning enne leegi läitmist soojendas see meeldivalt tema südant. «Olin köögis ja hakkasin sünnipäevaküünla süütamiseks tikke võtma,» rääkis ta. «Neid on alates 1959. aastast hoitud ühes ja samas kohas, pliidi kõrval seinas luugitaguses õnaruses.» Suur oli Mölteri üllatus, kui kätte sattus ammusest ajast tuttava Mulgi mehe pildiga tikutops. «Oh, kui armas! Selliseid pole enam ammu näinud,» meenutas ta. «Üllatus oli veelgi suurem, kui toosi tagakaanelt vaatas vastu hind: 1 kopikas. Viljandi tikuvabriku lõpu ajal polnud ju tikutoosil enam hinda peal, nii et need on ikka väga vanad tikud.» Kui vana? Vene rublad kaotasid Eestis kehtivuse 1992. aasta juunis, aga viimastel aastatel oli inflatsioon oma töö teinud ning osa hindu jäeti lõpuks kaubale pressimata. Seega võib arvata, et kõnealune tikutoos on pärit 1980. aastate lõpust või isegi veel kaugemast ajast. Kollektsionääride omanduses on muidugi ka eakamaid tikutoose, aga kuidas oli võimalik, et tikutoos pidas üle paarikümne aasta vastu kohas, kus majaelanikud neid tihti kasutavad?
Kaie Mölter selgitas, et tikutoose osteti pakikaupa ja hoiti enne kasutamist eraldi panipaigas. Ilmselt jäi see toos uute taha peitu, kuni lõpuks koos paari teisega pliidi juurde luugi taha tõsteti ja kasutama hakati. Võimalik aga, et sealgi pidas vana toos teiste kõrval aastaid vastu, sest juhuslikult haaras käsi uuemaid. Kui praegu poest ostetavad tikud on üsna heledad, siis päevavalgele tulnud toosis on need osaliselt pruunikaks tõmbunud. Toosist endast lööb vastu klassikaline, pisut kopitanud vana aja asjade lõhn. «Kui rääkisin emale nende tikkude leidmisest, ütles ta asjalikult, et vana aja tikud süttivad palju paremini kui tänapäevased, mis pole suuremad asjad,» rääkis Mölter. «Tõmbasin siis ka ise ühe vana tiku põlema, see süttis tõesti hästi. Mõnd tänapäevast tikku ei õnnestugi põlema kraapsata.» Mölter nentis, et on selle pliidi juurest luugi tagant aastate vältel tikke võtnud, aga pole kunagi varem tähelepanu pööranud, millise toosiga just tegu on. Väike katse Kui juba säärane eriline leid reporteri pihku sattus, võttis Sakala kätte, ostis lisaks tänapäevaseid tikutoose ja tegi väikese testi. Mõõtsime tiku lõpuni põlemise aega ja püüdsime kirjeldada süütamisel eralduvat lõhna. Tikke me üle lugema ei hakanud, kuid toome siinkohal sulgudes ära kaubale trükitud info topsis oleva tikkude arvu kohta.
Ülalkirjeldatud, Eesti NSV ajal Viljandi metsakombinaadis toodetud 1-kopikali-se tikutopsi kõrval osalesid praegu Säästumarketis müüdav samanimeline tikutoos hinnaga 3 eurosenti (tikke 40 ±2), Selveris 4 eurosenti maksev Hansa tikutoos (umbes 38), Maksimarketis 5 eurosendi eest saada olev pruunikas tikutoos (umbes 40) ja R-kioskis 10 eurosendi eest pakutav kollane tikutoos Kalevi Kotkas (keskmine kogus 45). Igast toosist võttis Kaie Mölter testijana ühe tiku ja tõmbas sama toosi süüteribalt põlema. Seejärel hoidis ta tikku näppude vahel horisontaalselt ühest ja siis kääride abil teisest otsast, kuni see lõpuni põles ja kustus. Mõne tikuga tuli teha mitu katset, sest tikku käsitsedes ei õnnestunud seda lõpuni põletada. Paar tänapäeva tikku ei tahtnud ühe tõmbega süttidagi. Kindlasti saanuks tulemus erinevam, kui oleksime põletanud järjest kogu karbitäie ja
siis püüdnud keskmist arvutada. Sakala jäi subjektiivselt ja rõõmsameelselt igast margist ühe tiku juurde. Kõige kauem põles pruunikas toosis olev tikk: 25,3 sekundit. Süttimisel oli tunda kerget pistongilõhna. Järgnes Kalevi Kotka tikk 23,9 sekundi ning kerge pistongi-ja tugeva kloorilõhnaga. Kolmandaks platseerus hansatikk 23,8 sekundi ja kõige tugevama kloorilõhnaga. Ajaliselt neljandaks jäi säästutikk 21,1 sekundi ja imeliku hapu lõhnaga. Kõige kiiremini põles paarkümmend aastat kuivanud Viljandi metsakombinaadi tikk: 19,5 sekundit. Ninna lõi kibehapukas lõhn, lapsepõlvest meelde jäänud väävlilõhna levitab endiselt aga toosi küljel olev süüteriba. Vanagi tikku ei õnnestunud testijal algul korralikult lõpuni põletada, mis tähendab, et lõpuks jäi toosi minevikku meenutama seitse ajaloolist tulehakatajat.
MEELEVALDSED VÕRDLUSED Võttes arvesse, et rahavahetuse ajal sai 10 Nõukogude rubla eest 1 Eesti krooni ja hiljem 15,6466 krooni eest 1 euro, saab teha järgmised võrdlused. • Tavaliselt poolsada tikku mahutava toosi hind oli 1 kopikas, mis teeb ühe tiku hinnaks 0,02 kopikat. See teeb 0,002 Eesti senti ja ümardatult 0,000128 eurosenti. • Samamoodi 1-kopikalise tikutoosi hinda teisendades oleks toosi maksumus praegu 0,006391 eurosenti. Praegu maksab tikutoos alates 3 sendist Säästumarketis kuni 10 sendini R-kioskis. Viimast hinda arvestades on tikutoos Nõukogude ajaga võrreldes kallinenud ligi 1565 korda. Allikas: Sakala
Eesti NSV ajal Viljandi metsakombinaadis toodetud tikutoos (keskel) ja tema tänapäevased kaaslased. Aivar Aotäht
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MÖÖDANIK JA TÄNAPÄEV
Pliidi kõrval peitus nostalgiline tikutoos
Aivar Aotäht
aivar.aotaht@ajaleht.ee Elvas emal külas käinud Viljandi ajakirjanik Kaie Mölter haaras harjumuspäraselt pliidi kõrvalt tikutoosi ning enne leegi läitmist soojendas see meeldivalt tema südant. «Olin köögis ja hakkasin sünnipäevaküünla süütamiseks tikke võtma,» rääkis ta. «Neid on alates 1959. aastast hoitud ühes ja samas kohas, pliidi kõrval seinas luugitaguses õnaruses.» Suur oli Mölteri üllatus, kui kätte sattus ammusest ajast tuttava Mulgi mehe pildiga tikutops. «Oh, kui armas! Selliseid pole enam ammu näinud,» meenutas ta. «Üllatus oli veelgi suurem, kui toosi tagakaanelt vaatas vastu hind: 1 kopikas. Viljandi tikuvabriku lõpu ajal polnud ju tikutoosil enam hinda peal, nii et need on ikka väga vanad tikud.» Kui vana? Vene rublad kaotasid Eestis kehtivuse 1992. aasta juunis, aga viimastel aastatel oli inflatsioon oma töö teinud ning osa hindu jäeti lõpuks kaubale pressimata. Seega võib arvata, et kõnealune tikutoos on pärit 1980. aastate lõpust või isegi veel kaugemast ajast. Kollektsionääride omanduses on muidugi ka eakamaid tikutoose, aga kuidas oli võimalik, et tikutoos pidas üle paarikümne aasta vastu kohas, kus majaelanikud neid tihti kasutavad?
Kaie Mölter selgitas, et tikutoose osteti pakikaupa ja hoiti enne kasutamist eraldi panipaigas. Ilmselt jäi see toos uute taha peitu, kuni lõpuks koos paari teisega pliidi juurde luugi taha tõsteti ja kasutama hakati. Võimalik aga, et sealgi pidas vana toos teiste kõrval aastaid vastu, sest juhuslikult haaras käsi uuemaid. Kui praegu poest ostetavad tikud on üsna heledad, siis päevavalgele tulnud toosis on need osaliselt pruunikaks tõmbunud. Toosist endast lööb vastu klassikaline, pisut kopitanud vana aja asjade lõhn. «Kui rääkisin emale nende tikkude leidmisest, ütles ta asjalikult, et vana aja tikud süttivad palju paremini kui tänapäevased, mis pole suuremad asjad,» rääkis Mölter. «Tõmbasin siis ka ise ühe vana tiku põlema, see süttis tõesti hästi. Mõnd tänapäevast tikku ei õnnestugi põlema kraapsata.» Mölter nentis, et on selle pliidi juurest luugi tagant aastate vältel tikke võtnud, aga pole kunagi varem tähelepanu pööranud, millise toosiga just tegu on. Väike katse Kui juba säärane eriline leid reporteri pihku sattus, võttis Sakala kätte, ostis lisaks tänapäevaseid tikutoose ja tegi väikese testi. Mõõtsime tiku lõpuni põlemise aega ja püüdsime kirjeldada süütamisel eralduvat lõhna. Tikke me üle lugema ei hakanud, kuid toome siinkohal sulgudes ära kaubale trükitud info topsis oleva tikkude arvu kohta.
Ülalkirjeldatud, Eesti NSV ajal Viljandi metsakombinaadis toodetud 1-kopikali-se tikutopsi kõrval osalesid praegu Säästumarketis müüdav samanimeline tikutoos hinnaga 3 eurosenti (tikke 40 ±2), Selveris 4 eurosenti maksev Hansa tikutoos (umbes 38), Maksimarketis 5 eurosendi eest saada olev pruunikas tikutoos (umbes 40) ja R-kioskis 10 eurosendi eest pakutav kollane tikutoos Kalevi Kotkas (keskmine kogus 45). Igast toosist võttis Kaie Mölter testijana ühe tiku ja tõmbas sama toosi süüteribalt põlema. Seejärel hoidis ta tikku näppude vahel horisontaalselt ühest ja siis kääride abil teisest otsast, kuni see lõpuni põles ja kustus. Mõne tikuga tuli teha mitu katset, sest tikku käsitsedes ei õnnestunud seda lõpuni põletada. Paar tänapäeva tikku ei tahtnud ühe tõmbega süttidagi. Kindlasti saanuks tulemus erinevam, kui oleksime põletanud järjest kogu karbitäie ja
siis püüdnud keskmist arvutada. Sakala jäi subjektiivselt ja rõõmsameelselt igast margist ühe tiku juurde. Kõige kauem põles pruunikas toosis olev tikk: 25,3 sekundit. Süttimisel oli tunda kerget pistongilõhna. Järgnes Kalevi Kotka tikk 23,9 sekundi ning kerge pistongi-ja tugeva kloorilõhnaga. Kolmandaks platseerus hansatikk 23,8 sekundi ja kõige tugevama kloorilõhnaga. Ajaliselt neljandaks jäi säästutikk 21,1 sekundi ja imeliku hapu lõhnaga. Kõige kiiremini põles paarkümmend aastat kuivanud Viljandi metsakombinaadi tikk: 19,5 sekundit. Ninna lõi kibehapukas lõhn, lapsepõlvest meelde jäänud väävlilõhna levitab endiselt aga toosi küljel olev süüteriba. Vanagi tikku ei õnnestunud testijal algul korralikult lõpuni põletada, mis tähendab, et lõpuks jäi toosi minevikku meenutama seitse ajaloolist tulehakatajat.
MEELEVALDSED VÕRDLUSED Võttes arvesse, et rahavahetuse ajal sai 10 Nõukogude rubla eest 1 Eesti krooni ja hiljem 15,6466 krooni eest 1 euro, saab teha järgmised võrdlused. • Tavaliselt poolsada tikku mahutava toosi hind oli 1 kopikas, mis teeb ühe tiku hinnaks 0,02 kopikat. See teeb 0,002 Eesti senti ja ümardatult 0,000128 eurosenti. • Samamoodi 1-kopikalise tikutoosi hinda teisendades oleks toosi maksumus praegu 0,006391 eurosenti. Praegu maksab tikutoos alates 3 sendist Säästumarketis kuni 10 sendini R-kioskis. Viimast hinda arvestades on tikutoos Nõukogude ajaga võrreldes kallinenud ligi 1565 korda. Allikas: Sakala
Eesti NSV ajal Viljandi metsakombinaadis toodetud tikutoos (keskel) ja tema tänapäevased kaaslased. Aivar Aotäht
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23 March 2018 17:57
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ma ei pruugi oma netiga lahti saada seda
23 March 2018 17:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja temalgi võis lapsi olla:
Iosif Grigor'evich Alliluyev (Russian: Ио́сиф Григо́рьевич Аллилу́ев; 22 May 1945 – 2 November 2008) was a Russian cardiologist and a grandson of Joseph Stalin.
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Eks kogu seda lastelaste pere kokkutulekut veel telvisiooonitakse varsti
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Alliluyev
Iosif Grigor'evich Alliluyev (Russian: Ио́сиф Григо́рьевич Аллилу́ев; 22 May 1945 – 2 November 2008) was a Russian cardiologist and a grandson of Joseph Stalin.
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Eks kogu seda lastelaste pere kokkutulekut veel telvisiooonitakse varsti
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Alliluyev
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Alliluyev
23 March 2018 16:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Svetlana Iosifovna Alliluyeva (Russian: Светла́на Ио́сифовна Аллилу́ева; 28 February 1926 – 22 November 2011) (born Svetlana Iosifovna Stalina, Russian: Светла́на Ио́сифовна Сталина, later known as Lana Peters)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svetlana_Alliluyeva
was the youngest child and only daughter of Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin and Nadezhda Alliluyeva, Stalin's second wife.
Children Iosif (1945–2008)
Nemad veel elus:
Yekaterina/Katya (1950– )
Olga/Chrese Evans (1971– )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svetlana_Alliluyeva
was the youngest child and only daughter of Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin and Nadezhda Alliluyeva, Stalin's second wife.
Children Iosif (1945–2008)
Nemad veel elus:
Yekaterina/Katya (1950– )
Olga/Chrese Evans (1971– )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svetlana_Alliluyeva
23 March 2018 16:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
*Ka temal võis olla lapsed:
21 March 1921
Moscow, Russian SFSR, Soviet Union
Died 19 March 1962 (aged 40)
Kazan, Russian SFSR, Soviet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Stalin
And what are the "most fantastical ones"
must read these ones:
"During the investigation, he confessed to all of the charges, even the most fantastical ones. Shortly afterwards, in December 1953, the prosecutor and his superior, Lavrentiy Beria, were executed as a result of a power struggle between Stalin's successors"
21 March 1921
Moscow, Russian SFSR, Soviet Union
Died 19 March 1962 (aged 40)
Kazan, Russian SFSR, Soviet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Stalin
And what are the "most fantastical ones"
must read these ones:
"During the investigation, he confessed to all of the charges, even the most fantastical ones. Shortly afterwards, in December 1953, the prosecutor and his superior, Lavrentiy Beria, were executed as a result of a power struggle between Stalin's successors"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Stalin
23 March 2018 15:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
küsimus siis oli, kes on NENDE lapsed ja kus nad on,
Sellele lihtsale asjale nagu
Sellele lihtsale asjale nagu
23 March 2018 15:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Galina Yakovlevna "Galya" Dzhugashvili (Russian: Галина Яковлевна Джугашвили; 19 February 1938 – 27 August 2007) was a Russian translator of French. She was the granddaughter of Joseph Stalin, the daughter of Stalin's elder son, Yakov Dzhugashvili.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galina_Dzhugashvili
She consistently challenged widely accepted accounts of her father's internment and death at a Nazi prison camp.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galina_Dzhugashvili
She consistently challenged widely accepted accounts of her father's internment and death at a Nazi prison camp.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galina_Dzhugashvili
23 March 2018 15:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eriti arvestades
Born Yevgeny Yakovlevich Golishev
10 January 1936
Uryupinsk, Russian SFSR, USSR
Died 22 December 2016 (aged 80)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Dzhugashvili
Born Yevgeny Yakovlevich Golishev
10 January 1936
Uryupinsk, Russian SFSR, USSR
Died 22 December 2016 (aged 80)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Dzhugashvili
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Dzhugashvili
23 March 2018 15:46
Margus Meigo replied to Helle-Mai Vinni's comment.
Group: Tutvused:)
eks tule brääkida naiega ja vaadata kuidas vastab23 March 2018 15:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Stalin's rage caused Gunina's flight from the dacha, and Dzhugashvili to attempt suicide in his room via firearm. He missed his heart and hit his lung instead; while his stepmother Alliluyeva tended to his wound and called the doctor, his father is quoted as saying, "He can't even shoot straight"
23 March 2018 15:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
36 aastane mees, nu anna olla, et polnud ühtegi last tal, külapeal ka mitte?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Dzhugashvili
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Dzhugashvili
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Dzhugashvili
23 March 2018 15:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://arvamus.postimees.ee/2522663/sotsiaaldemokratismi-pankrot-eestis
https://arvamus.postimees.ee/2522663/sotsiaaldemokratismi-pankrot-eestis
22 March 2018 23:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.sirp.ee/s1-artiklid/c9-sotsiaalia/loovisik-ja-oligarhia/
http://www.sirp.ee/s1-artiklid/c9-sotsiaalia/loovisik-ja-oligarhia/
22 March 2018 23:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Keskerakonna üllatumisi:
// EI NU Tõsimeeli, proovitakse jätta mulje nagu tegu polekski algselt ühe ja sama jõuga :D
"Liberaalsed kesknoored - üllatav, kas pole?
Esmapilgul tundub ootamatult üllatav, et kesknoorus pürgib Euroopa liberaalide hulka, sest on ju Keskerakonda kodumaal seostatud eelkõige sotside poole kalduva maailmavaate esindamisega. Liberaalideks tituleeritud paremjõude, kes soosivad majanduslikku kihistumist, totaalset erastamist jms rikka valija huvides tegutsemist. Tõepoolest, nii see on, aga vaid Eestis ja vaid päevapoliitiliselt. Põgus pilk ajalukku ja liberalismi traditsioonidesse veenab meid sootuks teistpidises.
Teatavasti tekkis juba 1830. aastail viigide partei järglasena Suurbritannias Liberaalne Partei (Liberal Party), mis on poliitikalukku kinnistunud "
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uunikuus toimus sisepoliitiliselt pinevas Vilniuses (peaminister Paksas'e tagasiastumine) Leedu noorliberaalide korraldamisel ja Euroopa Liidu noorsooprogrammi Youth finantseerimisel rahvusvaheline poliitika- ja majandusseminar Vision of the European Society (Nägemus Euroopa ühiskonnast), millest siinkirjutaja Keskerakonna Noortekogu (EKN) esindajana osa võttis.
Kuna Leedu noorliberaalid kuuluvad Euroopa liberaalsesse noorteorganisatsiooni LYMEC, olid osavõtjad põhiliselt LYMEC' i liikmed või kandidaatliikmed, kelle hulka kuulub ka EKN. Geograafiliselt olid esindatud Austria, Belgia, Taani, Soome, Saksamaa, Suurbritannia, Holland, Poola, Rootsi ja kogu Baltikum. Eestist viibisid kohal ka LYMEC' i täisliikme Reformierakonna noorteorganisatsiooni esindajad.
Soovin lugejat kuuldust-nähtust läbi oma mõtteprisma informeerida ning arendada mõningat diskussiooni Euroopa Liidu, liberalismi ja ehk ka Keskerakonna tuleviku üle.
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Teatavasti tekkis juba 1830. aastail viigide partei järglasena Suurbritannias Liberaalne Partei (Liberal Party), mis on poliitikalukku kinnistunud sisuliselt tsentristliku jõuna (nimekaimad peaministrid W. E. Gladstone ja D. Lloyd George). 19. sajandi teisel poolel ja 20. sajandi esimestel kümnenditel viis Liberaalne Partei Suurbritannias läbi rea sotsiaalseid ja poliitilisi reforme. Näiteks sotsiaalkindlustussüsteemi loomine, Ülemkoja õiguste piiramine 1911. aastal jm. Nad toetasid valimistsensuste kaotamist, oponeerides Konservatiivsele Parteile. Pärast I maailmasõda tõrjusid leiboristid liberaalid kõrvale, pärast mida on liberaalid teinud aktiivset koostööd leiboristidest eraldunud sotsiaaldemokraatidega. Seega, nagu Suurbritannia näide kõnekalt illustreerib, on Euroopa küpsetes demokraatiates liberaalne maailmavaade poliitilisena juba terve sajandi tegelnud ühiskonna sotsiaalse dimensiooniga. Kujukalt põhjendas ju ka USA filosoof ja poliitikateadlane F. Fukuyama Eestis esinedes, et turumajandusliku mudeli efektiivsus sõltub suuresti sotsiaalsest kapitalist ehk ühiskonna seesmise usalduse nivoost. Ärimehed on ka meil hakanud hindama pikemaajalist usaldust ning arusaamine, et usaldus on suuresti sõltuv ühiskonna sotsiaalsest stabiilsusest, ei tohiks olla enam kaugel.
Seminari juurde tulles äratas tähelepanu Rootsi liberaalide huvi meie maksusüsteemi vastu ning toetus astmelise tulumaksu ideele. Muide, rootslased olid kursis asjaoluga, et Eestis tuli astmelise tulumaksu eeliste põhjendamisega välja just Keskerakond.
Liberalistlik maailmavaade ja ideoloogia
Teatavasti põhineb klassikaline liberalism (Liberalism toetab parlamentaarset demokraatiat, kodanikuvabaduste kaitset ning initsiatiivikat vaba ettevõtlust, mida reguleerib vaba turg. Süstemaatilise ideoloogiana formeerus liberalism Suure Prantsuse Revolutsiooni (1789-1799) ajal, toetudes enamasti J. Locke' i, C. de Montesquieu ja valgustajate Voltaire' i ning J.-J. Rousseau töödele. Majandusteoreetikutest on liberalismi mõjukamate põhjendajatena ajalukku läinud A. Smith ja D. Ricardo. Algselt kujutas liberalism endast feodalismi- ja absolutismivastaste ringkondade maailmavaadet, mis (taotledes peamiselt kirikuvõimu vähendamist) vastandusid teravalt konservatismile. Liberalism peab ühiskondlikku sotsiaalset kooskõla tagava arengu aluseks üksikisikute laialdast tegevusvabadust eraomandi alusel (laissez faire, laissez passer põhimõtted), mille kohaselt peab riigi sekkumine ühiskonnaellu olema minimiseeritud ning piirduma põhiliselt kodanikuõiguste tagamisega.
18. ja 19. sajandil pooldasid liberaalid riigivormina peamiselt konstitutsioonilist monarhiat või vabariiki, vabakaubanduse põhimõtet ning valimisõiguste ulatuslikku laiendamist. Suurima mõju saavutas liberalistlik maailmavaade 19. sajandi teise veerandi Suurbritannias utilitaristide J. Bentham' i ja J. S. Mill' i ning H. Spencer' i tööde mõjul.
Liberalismi "reform" 20. sajandil ning mõju Eestile
20. sajandil on liberite positsioone ja proletaarset elektoraati püüdnud üle lüüa sotsiaaldemokraatlikud parteid. Paljudele algselt liberaalsetele seisukohtadele on asunud ka konservatiivsed jõud. Peamiselt sotsiaaldemokraatide mõjul on muutunud liberaalide majanduspoliitilised vaated riikliku reguleerimise vajadust toetavas suunas (keinsianism). Pärast II maailmasõda kujunenud neoliberalism seisab turusuhete valitsemise taotlustes paljuski konservatiivsetel positsioonidel ning kõigub siduva jõuna sotsiaaldemokraatia ja konservatismi vahel.
Tänapäeva mõjukaimad liberaalsed parteid on näiteks USA Demokraatlik Partei, Soome ja Rootsi Keskpartei ning Suurbritannia Liberaalne Partei. 1947. aastal asutati Liberaalne Internatsionaal. Venemaa ajalugu meenutades tekkis liberalism seal 19. sajandi keskpaiga reformide ajajärgul peamiselt kodanluse ja haritlaskonna ideoloogiana. Need jõud koondusid peale 1905. aasta 17. oktoobri manifesti Konstitutsioonilise Demokraatide Partei (kadetid) ümber. Pärast Veebruarirevolutsiooni olid liberaalid mõne kuu võimul ning osalesid kodusõjas valgete poolel.
Venemaaga peaaegu samal ajal tekkis liberalism Eestis, kus sellega lähedasi vaateid jagasid C. R. Jakobson ning tema mõttekaaslased, koondades enda ümber peamiselt kodanlasi, haritlasi ning jõukamaid talupoegi. Eesti liberalismil oli juures tugev rahvuslik värving, mis oli teadagi opositsioonis Vene tsarismi ning Balti aadliga. Peamiselt liberaalide eestvedamisel viidi läbi 1919. aasta maareform. Mõjukam liberaalne partei oli Eesti Rahvaerakond, hiljem Rahvuslik Keskerakond.
Nagu põgusast ajaloolisest pilgust nähtub, on Eesti Keskerakond kodumaise liberalismi õigusjärglane ning tsentriparteina igati õigustatud kohal Euroopa liberaalsete jõudude hulgas. Seda peaksid aktsepteerima ka Eesti tänapäeva poliitilised ringkonnad, kes põhjendamatult ühekülgselt Keskerakonda liberaalide hulgast isoleerida taotlevad. Noortekogu sammud LYMEC' i suunal ja soov selle organisatsiooni täisliikmeks saada on kantud tahtest taotleda rahvusvahelist tunnustust oma identiteedile ja programmilistele eesmärkidele ning sõnaõigust Euroopa liberaalide tuleviku kujundamisel, vaatamata Eesti üleminekuaja segastele poliitilistele vahekordadele.
Järgneb.
http://www.kesknadal.ee/g2/uudised?id=324
// EI NU Tõsimeeli, proovitakse jätta mulje nagu tegu polekski algselt ühe ja sama jõuga :D
"Liberaalsed kesknoored - üllatav, kas pole?
Esmapilgul tundub ootamatult üllatav, et kesknoorus pürgib Euroopa liberaalide hulka, sest on ju Keskerakonda kodumaal seostatud eelkõige sotside poole kalduva maailmavaate esindamisega. Liberaalideks tituleeritud paremjõude, kes soosivad majanduslikku kihistumist, totaalset erastamist jms rikka valija huvides tegutsemist. Tõepoolest, nii see on, aga vaid Eestis ja vaid päevapoliitiliselt. Põgus pilk ajalukku ja liberalismi traditsioonidesse veenab meid sootuks teistpidises.
Teatavasti tekkis juba 1830. aastail viigide partei järglasena Suurbritannias Liberaalne Partei (Liberal Party), mis on poliitikalukku kinnistunud "
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uunikuus toimus sisepoliitiliselt pinevas Vilniuses (peaminister Paksas'e tagasiastumine) Leedu noorliberaalide korraldamisel ja Euroopa Liidu noorsooprogrammi Youth finantseerimisel rahvusvaheline poliitika- ja majandusseminar Vision of the European Society (Nägemus Euroopa ühiskonnast), millest siinkirjutaja Keskerakonna Noortekogu (EKN) esindajana osa võttis.
Kuna Leedu noorliberaalid kuuluvad Euroopa liberaalsesse noorteorganisatsiooni LYMEC, olid osavõtjad põhiliselt LYMEC' i liikmed või kandidaatliikmed, kelle hulka kuulub ka EKN. Geograafiliselt olid esindatud Austria, Belgia, Taani, Soome, Saksamaa, Suurbritannia, Holland, Poola, Rootsi ja kogu Baltikum. Eestist viibisid kohal ka LYMEC' i täisliikme Reformierakonna noorteorganisatsiooni esindajad.
Soovin lugejat kuuldust-nähtust läbi oma mõtteprisma informeerida ning arendada mõningat diskussiooni Euroopa Liidu, liberalismi ja ehk ka Keskerakonna tuleviku üle.
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Teatavasti tekkis juba 1830. aastail viigide partei järglasena Suurbritannias Liberaalne Partei (Liberal Party), mis on poliitikalukku kinnistunud sisuliselt tsentristliku jõuna (nimekaimad peaministrid W. E. Gladstone ja D. Lloyd George). 19. sajandi teisel poolel ja 20. sajandi esimestel kümnenditel viis Liberaalne Partei Suurbritannias läbi rea sotsiaalseid ja poliitilisi reforme. Näiteks sotsiaalkindlustussüsteemi loomine, Ülemkoja õiguste piiramine 1911. aastal jm. Nad toetasid valimistsensuste kaotamist, oponeerides Konservatiivsele Parteile. Pärast I maailmasõda tõrjusid leiboristid liberaalid kõrvale, pärast mida on liberaalid teinud aktiivset koostööd leiboristidest eraldunud sotsiaaldemokraatidega. Seega, nagu Suurbritannia näide kõnekalt illustreerib, on Euroopa küpsetes demokraatiates liberaalne maailmavaade poliitilisena juba terve sajandi tegelnud ühiskonna sotsiaalse dimensiooniga. Kujukalt põhjendas ju ka USA filosoof ja poliitikateadlane F. Fukuyama Eestis esinedes, et turumajandusliku mudeli efektiivsus sõltub suuresti sotsiaalsest kapitalist ehk ühiskonna seesmise usalduse nivoost. Ärimehed on ka meil hakanud hindama pikemaajalist usaldust ning arusaamine, et usaldus on suuresti sõltuv ühiskonna sotsiaalsest stabiilsusest, ei tohiks olla enam kaugel.
Seminari juurde tulles äratas tähelepanu Rootsi liberaalide huvi meie maksusüsteemi vastu ning toetus astmelise tulumaksu ideele. Muide, rootslased olid kursis asjaoluga, et Eestis tuli astmelise tulumaksu eeliste põhjendamisega välja just Keskerakond.
Liberalistlik maailmavaade ja ideoloogia
Teatavasti põhineb klassikaline liberalism (Liberalism toetab parlamentaarset demokraatiat, kodanikuvabaduste kaitset ning initsiatiivikat vaba ettevõtlust, mida reguleerib vaba turg. Süstemaatilise ideoloogiana formeerus liberalism Suure Prantsuse Revolutsiooni (1789-1799) ajal, toetudes enamasti J. Locke' i, C. de Montesquieu ja valgustajate Voltaire' i ning J.-J. Rousseau töödele. Majandusteoreetikutest on liberalismi mõjukamate põhjendajatena ajalukku läinud A. Smith ja D. Ricardo. Algselt kujutas liberalism endast feodalismi- ja absolutismivastaste ringkondade maailmavaadet, mis (taotledes peamiselt kirikuvõimu vähendamist) vastandusid teravalt konservatismile. Liberalism peab ühiskondlikku sotsiaalset kooskõla tagava arengu aluseks üksikisikute laialdast tegevusvabadust eraomandi alusel (laissez faire, laissez passer põhimõtted), mille kohaselt peab riigi sekkumine ühiskonnaellu olema minimiseeritud ning piirduma põhiliselt kodanikuõiguste tagamisega.
18. ja 19. sajandil pooldasid liberaalid riigivormina peamiselt konstitutsioonilist monarhiat või vabariiki, vabakaubanduse põhimõtet ning valimisõiguste ulatuslikku laiendamist. Suurima mõju saavutas liberalistlik maailmavaade 19. sajandi teise veerandi Suurbritannias utilitaristide J. Bentham' i ja J. S. Mill' i ning H. Spencer' i tööde mõjul.
Liberalismi "reform" 20. sajandil ning mõju Eestile
20. sajandil on liberite positsioone ja proletaarset elektoraati püüdnud üle lüüa sotsiaaldemokraatlikud parteid. Paljudele algselt liberaalsetele seisukohtadele on asunud ka konservatiivsed jõud. Peamiselt sotsiaaldemokraatide mõjul on muutunud liberaalide majanduspoliitilised vaated riikliku reguleerimise vajadust toetavas suunas (keinsianism). Pärast II maailmasõda kujunenud neoliberalism seisab turusuhete valitsemise taotlustes paljuski konservatiivsetel positsioonidel ning kõigub siduva jõuna sotsiaaldemokraatia ja konservatismi vahel.
Tänapäeva mõjukaimad liberaalsed parteid on näiteks USA Demokraatlik Partei, Soome ja Rootsi Keskpartei ning Suurbritannia Liberaalne Partei. 1947. aastal asutati Liberaalne Internatsionaal. Venemaa ajalugu meenutades tekkis liberalism seal 19. sajandi keskpaiga reformide ajajärgul peamiselt kodanluse ja haritlaskonna ideoloogiana. Need jõud koondusid peale 1905. aasta 17. oktoobri manifesti Konstitutsioonilise Demokraatide Partei (kadetid) ümber. Pärast Veebruarirevolutsiooni olid liberaalid mõne kuu võimul ning osalesid kodusõjas valgete poolel.
Venemaaga peaaegu samal ajal tekkis liberalism Eestis, kus sellega lähedasi vaateid jagasid C. R. Jakobson ning tema mõttekaaslased, koondades enda ümber peamiselt kodanlasi, haritlasi ning jõukamaid talupoegi. Eesti liberalismil oli juures tugev rahvuslik värving, mis oli teadagi opositsioonis Vene tsarismi ning Balti aadliga. Peamiselt liberaalide eestvedamisel viidi läbi 1919. aasta maareform. Mõjukam liberaalne partei oli Eesti Rahvaerakond, hiljem Rahvuslik Keskerakond.
Nagu põgusast ajaloolisest pilgust nähtub, on Eesti Keskerakond kodumaise liberalismi õigusjärglane ning tsentriparteina igati õigustatud kohal Euroopa liberaalsete jõudude hulgas. Seda peaksid aktsepteerima ka Eesti tänapäeva poliitilised ringkonnad, kes põhjendamatult ühekülgselt Keskerakonda liberaalide hulgast isoleerida taotlevad. Noortekogu sammud LYMEC' i suunal ja soov selle organisatsiooni täisliikmeks saada on kantud tahtest taotleda rahvusvahelist tunnustust oma identiteedile ja programmilistele eesmärkidele ning sõnaõigust Euroopa liberaalide tuleviku kujundamisel, vaatamata Eesti üleminekuaja segastele poliitilistele vahekordadele.
Järgneb.
http://www.kesknadal.ee/g2/uudised?id=324
http://www.kesknadal.ee/g2/uudised?id=324
22 March 2018 22:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.kirjandusarhiiv.net/?p=116
http://www.kirjandusarhiiv.net/?s=internatsionaal (vaadata muude teemade sisu)
Sõjaeelse Eesti esseistika ja kirjanduskriitika
Eesti nüüdiskirjanduse ideoloogilisist aluseist
" Kokkuvõttes – meie juhtivate kirjanike ideoloogiad eralduvad küllaltki teravalt ajaloolisest materialismist ja – internatsionalismist. Kui nende teoseis puudubki rahvusliku momendi programmiline rõhutamine, siis sellest ei saa ometi välja lugeda rahvuse-(ammugi mitte rahva-) vaenulikkust.
Meie nüüdiskirjandus oma enamikus täidab juba sellega suurt ülesannet, et ta tähelepanu keskendab tõsielule ja tõsieluprobleemidele, reaalsele igapäevasele inimesele, tema tööle ja võitlusele, rõõmudele ja muredele. Oma suuremais, eepilisemais saavutusis (Tammsaare epopöa, A. Kivika asunikuromaanid, Metsanurga Punane tuul ja Jäljetu haud, mõned Jakobsoni ja Rohu teosed jne.) meie kirjandus annab läbilõike kogu eesti ühiskonna arengust möödunud sajandi viimasest veerandist kuni tänapäevani. Meie luule on iseseisvusepäevil saavutanud oma ülimad tipud (Suits, Under,Semper), kajastades enne teisi kirjanduseliike uueaegse võitleva ja loova inimese elutunnet (Schütz). Näitekirjanduski ei ole leppinud ainult iseseisvuseaegsete pahede paljastamisega, vaid on õhutanud ka elutahet ja töörõõmu, püstitanud tänapäevast üleulatuvaid eetilisi väärtusi (Tammsaare Juudit, Raudsepa Kohtumõistja Simson j. t.). Voolude ja rühmade omavahelisis kokkupõrkeis ja heitlusis on ikka enam selgunud ühissiht: kujutada terviklikku, rõõmsameelset, loovat inimest, kes kannab edasi ühiskonda. "
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http://www.kirjandusarhiiv.net/?s=internatsionaal (vaadata muude teemade sisu)
Sõjaeelse Eesti esseistika ja kirjanduskriitika
Eesti nüüdiskirjanduse ideoloogilisist aluseist
" Kokkuvõttes – meie juhtivate kirjanike ideoloogiad eralduvad küllaltki teravalt ajaloolisest materialismist ja – internatsionalismist. Kui nende teoseis puudubki rahvusliku momendi programmiline rõhutamine, siis sellest ei saa ometi välja lugeda rahvuse-(ammugi mitte rahva-) vaenulikkust.
Meie nüüdiskirjandus oma enamikus täidab juba sellega suurt ülesannet, et ta tähelepanu keskendab tõsielule ja tõsieluprobleemidele, reaalsele igapäevasele inimesele, tema tööle ja võitlusele, rõõmudele ja muredele. Oma suuremais, eepilisemais saavutusis (Tammsaare epopöa, A. Kivika asunikuromaanid, Metsanurga Punane tuul ja Jäljetu haud, mõned Jakobsoni ja Rohu teosed jne.) meie kirjandus annab läbilõike kogu eesti ühiskonna arengust möödunud sajandi viimasest veerandist kuni tänapäevani. Meie luule on iseseisvusepäevil saavutanud oma ülimad tipud (Suits, Under,Semper), kajastades enne teisi kirjanduseliike uueaegse võitleva ja loova inimese elutunnet (Schütz). Näitekirjanduski ei ole leppinud ainult iseseisvuseaegsete pahede paljastamisega, vaid on õhutanud ka elutahet ja töörõõmu, püstitanud tänapäevast üleulatuvaid eetilisi väärtusi (Tammsaare Juudit, Raudsepa Kohtumõistja Simson j. t.). Voolude ja rühmade omavahelisis kokkupõrkeis ja heitlusis on ikka enam selgunud ühissiht: kujutada terviklikku, rõõmsameelset, loovat inimest, kes kannab edasi ühiskonda. "
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http://www.kirjandusarhiiv.net/?p=116
22 March 2018 22:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.kirjandusarhiiv.net/?p=116
" Seoses viimase aja ühiskondlik-poliitiliste mõtteliikumistega on päälkirjas mainitud küsimus saanud väga aktuaalseks. Kuid nagu ikka, seda käsitellakse võhikliku pääliskaudsusega. Veeretatakse mõnd üldist, ebamäärast lööklauset nagu käibivat peenraha, ilma et kellelgi mõttessegi tuleks selle ehtsust järele proovida. Kirjanduse-vaatlusse kantakse üle pisikesed päevapoliitilised harjumused. Meie nüüdiskirjandus on läbi ja läbi internatsionalistlik, maailmavaateliselt – idapoolne, talle tuleb vastu seada oma rahvuskirjandus – see on kõik see tarkus, millega olemasolu-küsimusist erutatud lugevas publikus püütakse võita poolehoidu.
Kui kõnelda internatsionalismist (vist tuletatud Internatsionaalist!) meie kirjanduses, siis tuleb kõigepäält enesele selgeks teha, mis selle sõna all mõeldakse. Internatsionalism, kui see ei pea olema ainult tühipaljas sõnakõlks, eeldab enne kõike monistlikku maailma- ja eluvaadet, materialistlikku (klassivõitluse lähtekohast) ajaloolise ning ühiskondlik-poliitilise arengu käsitust ja – selle rakendust rahvusvahelise klassivõitluse teenistusse. Sellelt seisukohalt tuleb ka kirjanduslikke nähtusi ja küsimusi võtta ja asetada seoses töörahva tänapäeva-eluga, päämiselt töölisklassi heitlusega poliitilise võimu ja oma sotsialistliku ideaali teostamise pärast. Ajaloolise materjalisti ning internatsionalisti (teiste sõnadega: marksisti) meelest kirjandus on ainult klassivõitluse vahend.
Kahtlemata, tee 1905. a. revolutsioonist kaudu iseseisvuse-võitluse tänapäeva „dünaamilise rahvaliikumiseni” on küllalt pikk ning sündmusterikas, et sellest leida ainet sotsiaalsele romaanile või draamale. Kuid teadliku klassivõitluse seisukohalt on meie töölisliikumist käsiteldud ainult traataiataguses eesti kirjanduses. Kodumaisist kirjanikest lähenevad sellele ainestikule harva mõned üksikud ja igatahes mitte klassiteadvuse relvadega varustatuina.
Eesti nüüdiskirjanikud on peaaegu erandita pärit maalt, talupoja pojad. Nad võivad küll koduneda linnade kodanlises ja väikekodanlises keskkonnas, kuid vist mitte kunagi proletaarses miljöös. Nad ei suuda sisse elada vabrikutöölise hingeellu esiteks juba oma klassilise päritolu ja talupoeglik-individualistliku psüühhi tõttu ja teiseks selle tõttu, et neil ei ole mahti ligemalt tundma õppida tööliste elu ega keskkonda. Liberaalse intelligendi harjumusega nad võivad avaldada ainult platoonilist sümpaatiat töölisklassile, kuid tõeliselt selle sotsiaalpsühholoogiline nägu jääb neile võõraks ning mõistmatuks.
Nõuab tõesti Fr. Tuglase sulge, et kokkukõlla viia näiteks Karl Rumor – poliitik ja kirjanik. Marksistliku parteimehena ta peaks olema kõigiti monistlik-materialistliku maailmavaatega, realist, praktiline teoinimene, aga kirjanduses ta muutub sageli kõige elukaugemaks idealistiks-romantikuks. ... "
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" Kirjanik aga, kes end igasuguste ideepuuslike seltsis üsna kodu tunneb, on Mait Metsanurk. Teda on meil rohkem kui kedagi teist süüdistatud ka ideoloogilises pahempoolsuses: internatsionalismis”. Kuid see on ainult juurdunud eelarvamus.
Tõsi jah, Metsanurk on jutustuses Jumalata, näidendis Kindrali poeg, romaanis Jäljetu haud j. m. kujutanud kommunistlikke tegelasi ja need enam või vähem kangelaslikult surma saatnud oma aadete eest. Kuid nii kirglikult, nii ekspressionistlikus stiilis kui ta seda kõike kujutabki, tema tendents siinjuures jääb ometi „neetud kodanlase” omaks. Teda huvitab enne kõike tegelase inimeslik psühholoogia, õigemini see psühholoogiline eksperiment, mida ta tegelasega võib teha antud olukorras. Ta võtab oma kangelased enamasti otse elust, aga siiski mitte nende loomuliku liha ja vere, nende keskkonnast võrsunud hingeelu ja siseveendeist sõltuvate teotsemistega. Teda huvitavad nad päämiselt nagu katsejänesed, mille kallal ta võib opereerida oma isiklike tunde- ja mõttepisikutega, arendada oma maailmaparandaja-aadete kultuuri. "
" Seoses viimase aja ühiskondlik-poliitiliste mõtteliikumistega on päälkirjas mainitud küsimus saanud väga aktuaalseks. Kuid nagu ikka, seda käsitellakse võhikliku pääliskaudsusega. Veeretatakse mõnd üldist, ebamäärast lööklauset nagu käibivat peenraha, ilma et kellelgi mõttessegi tuleks selle ehtsust järele proovida. Kirjanduse-vaatlusse kantakse üle pisikesed päevapoliitilised harjumused. Meie nüüdiskirjandus on läbi ja läbi internatsionalistlik, maailmavaateliselt – idapoolne, talle tuleb vastu seada oma rahvuskirjandus – see on kõik see tarkus, millega olemasolu-küsimusist erutatud lugevas publikus püütakse võita poolehoidu.
Kui kõnelda internatsionalismist (vist tuletatud Internatsionaalist!) meie kirjanduses, siis tuleb kõigepäält enesele selgeks teha, mis selle sõna all mõeldakse. Internatsionalism, kui see ei pea olema ainult tühipaljas sõnakõlks, eeldab enne kõike monistlikku maailma- ja eluvaadet, materialistlikku (klassivõitluse lähtekohast) ajaloolise ning ühiskondlik-poliitilise arengu käsitust ja – selle rakendust rahvusvahelise klassivõitluse teenistusse. Sellelt seisukohalt tuleb ka kirjanduslikke nähtusi ja küsimusi võtta ja asetada seoses töörahva tänapäeva-eluga, päämiselt töölisklassi heitlusega poliitilise võimu ja oma sotsialistliku ideaali teostamise pärast. Ajaloolise materjalisti ning internatsionalisti (teiste sõnadega: marksisti) meelest kirjandus on ainult klassivõitluse vahend.
Kahtlemata, tee 1905. a. revolutsioonist kaudu iseseisvuse-võitluse tänapäeva „dünaamilise rahvaliikumiseni” on küllalt pikk ning sündmusterikas, et sellest leida ainet sotsiaalsele romaanile või draamale. Kuid teadliku klassivõitluse seisukohalt on meie töölisliikumist käsiteldud ainult traataiataguses eesti kirjanduses. Kodumaisist kirjanikest lähenevad sellele ainestikule harva mõned üksikud ja igatahes mitte klassiteadvuse relvadega varustatuina.
Eesti nüüdiskirjanikud on peaaegu erandita pärit maalt, talupoja pojad. Nad võivad küll koduneda linnade kodanlises ja väikekodanlises keskkonnas, kuid vist mitte kunagi proletaarses miljöös. Nad ei suuda sisse elada vabrikutöölise hingeellu esiteks juba oma klassilise päritolu ja talupoeglik-individualistliku psüühhi tõttu ja teiseks selle tõttu, et neil ei ole mahti ligemalt tundma õppida tööliste elu ega keskkonda. Liberaalse intelligendi harjumusega nad võivad avaldada ainult platoonilist sümpaatiat töölisklassile, kuid tõeliselt selle sotsiaalpsühholoogiline nägu jääb neile võõraks ning mõistmatuks.
Nõuab tõesti Fr. Tuglase sulge, et kokkukõlla viia näiteks Karl Rumor – poliitik ja kirjanik. Marksistliku parteimehena ta peaks olema kõigiti monistlik-materialistliku maailmavaatega, realist, praktiline teoinimene, aga kirjanduses ta muutub sageli kõige elukaugemaks idealistiks-romantikuks. ... "
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" Kirjanik aga, kes end igasuguste ideepuuslike seltsis üsna kodu tunneb, on Mait Metsanurk. Teda on meil rohkem kui kedagi teist süüdistatud ka ideoloogilises pahempoolsuses: internatsionalismis”. Kuid see on ainult juurdunud eelarvamus.
Tõsi jah, Metsanurk on jutustuses Jumalata, näidendis Kindrali poeg, romaanis Jäljetu haud j. m. kujutanud kommunistlikke tegelasi ja need enam või vähem kangelaslikult surma saatnud oma aadete eest. Kuid nii kirglikult, nii ekspressionistlikus stiilis kui ta seda kõike kujutabki, tema tendents siinjuures jääb ometi „neetud kodanlase” omaks. Teda huvitab enne kõike tegelase inimeslik psühholoogia, õigemini see psühholoogiline eksperiment, mida ta tegelasega võib teha antud olukorras. Ta võtab oma kangelased enamasti otse elust, aga siiski mitte nende loomuliku liha ja vere, nende keskkonnast võrsunud hingeelu ja siseveendeist sõltuvate teotsemistega. Teda huvitavad nad päämiselt nagu katsejänesed, mille kallal ta võib opereerida oma isiklike tunde- ja mõttepisikutega, arendada oma maailmaparandaja-aadete kultuuri. "
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22 March 2018 22:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muud haridust:
Ajaloo mõistete sõnastik:
https://sites.google.com/site/mariakurisoo/oppe/ajalugu // Maria Kurisoo (asjalikumaid Google tasuta kodulehti mida näinud)
https://sites.google.com/site/mariakurisoo/oppe/ajalugu/ajaloo-moistete-sonastik?tmpl=%2Fsystem%2Fapp%2Ftemplates%2Fprint%2F&showPrintDialog=1
aarjalased – muistsesse Indiasse tunginud indoeuroopa hõimud, tänapäeva hindude esivanemad
Komintern – Kommunistlik Internatsionaal, rahvusvahelise kommunistliku liikumise keskne organisatsioon, mis asutati 1919. aastal
kommunism – poliitiline õpetus, mis püüab saavutada sotsiaalset võrdsust proletariaadi diktatuuri kehtestamise abil ja mille eesmargiks on klasside ja eraomandita ühiskond
konkistadoor – (hispaania keeles „conquistador“ ehk vallutaja) hispaania ja portugali seiklejad, kes osalesid 16. sajandil Ameerika vallutamisel
konservatiivne – alalhoidlik, traditsioonilisi vaateid säilitav ja ajaloolist järjepidevust tähtsustav
konservatism – alalhoidlikkus, traditsioonilisi vaateid säilitav ja ajaloolist järjepidevust tähtsustav poliitiline õpetus
liberalism – vabameelsus, inimeste võrdõiguslikkust ja vabadust tähtsustav poliitiline õpetus; vt ka majanduslik liberalism
Marshalli plaan – USA ulatuslik majandusabi Teises maailmasõjas kannatanud Euroopa riikidele
metseen – kirjanduse ja kultuuri heldekäeline toetaja, Augustuse valitsemisajal elanud rikka roomlase Maecenase järgi, kes kasutas oma tohutut varandust andekate kirjanike abistamiseks
monarhia – riigivalitsemisvorm, mille puhul riigipea on harilikult eluaegse ja päriliku võimuga monarh (kuningas, keiser, tsaar, sultan)
narodniklus – Venemaal 19. sajandi teisel poolel haritlaskonna hulgas levinud sotsialistlik liikumine, mis rõhutas rahvalikkust ja tagasipöördumist nn ürgvenelike arusaamade juurde
natsionaalsotsialism ehk natsism – äärmuslik liikumine ja õpetus Saksamaal aastatel 1919 – 1945, mis taotles aaria rassi väidetavale erandlikkusele toetudes parema ühiskonna loomist; seisnes üksikisiku allutamises grupile, agressiivsuses naabrite suhtes, juhikultuses, nn alavaartuslike inimeste ja rahvaste (juutide ja mustlaste) hävitamises
Rahvasteliit – Pariisi rahukonverentsil loodud organisatsioon, mille eesmärgiks oli riikide omavaheliste tülide rahumeelne lahendamine ning rahvusvaheline koostöö; tegutses 1920 – 1946, ÜRO eelkäija
Ühinenud Rahvaste Organisatsioon (ÜRO) – pärast Teist maailmasõda (1945) asutatud tähtsaim rahvusvaheline organisatsioon, mille eesmärk on kõikide rahvaste ühendamine, et vältida sõdu, tugevdada rahvusvahelist julgeolekut, kaitsta demokraatiat ja edendada rahvaste igakülgset koostööd
üliriik – erakordselt võimas suurriik, mille mõju ulatub üle kogu maailma; kasutatakse tavaliselt USA ja NSV Liidu kohta
raudne eesriie – NSV Liidu katse eraldada ennast ja oma liitlasi muust maailmast
renessanss – (prantsuse keeles „renaissance“ ehk taassünd) hiliskeskaegses Itaalias alguse saanud murrang Euroopa vaimuelus ja kultuuris. Levis inimest väärtustav ehk humanistlik ellusuhtumine ja eeskujusid hakati otsima antiikkultuurist. Euroopa keskaja lõppu ja varauusaega nimetatakse sageli renessanssi ajajärguks
totalitaarne diktatuur – diktaatorlikul võimukasutusel põhinev valitsemisvorm, millega kaasneb kontroll kodanike mõtteavalduste ja väljendusvõimaluste üle ning inimõiguste rikkumine
vaimulik rüütliordu – rüütlite sõjaline vennaskond, mille liikmed andsid mungatõotused (vaesus, abielutus ja kuulekus oma ülematele) ning pühendusid kiriku kaitsmisele relvaga
vastureformatsioon - usuline ja poliitiline liikumine, mille paavstid algatasid katoliku kiriku sisemiseks muutmiseks ja protestantismile kaotatud alade tagasivõitmiseks
Wehrmacht – hitlerliku Saksamaa relvajõudude nimetus
föderatism – riikide ühinemise põhimõte, mille järgi mitu riiki moodustavad liitriigi (föderatsiooni)
filosoof – kreeka k „tarkuse armastaja“; muistses Kreekas õpetlane, kes juurdles maailma olemuse üle foorum – turuplats Roomas, rajati parast küngastevahelise soo kuivendamist
feenid – Iirimaa iseseisvust taotlenud poliitilise salaühingu liikmed 19. sajandil
aadel (rüütliseisus) – suursuguste sõjameeste seisus keskaegses Euroopas; selle moodustasid kõik feodaalid keisrist väikeaadliteni
Antant – Suurbritannia, Prantsusmaa ja Venemaa liit 1907 –1917, moodustati vastukaaluks Kolmikliidule
abolitsionistlik liikumine – orjapidamise kaotamist taotlev liikumine Ameerika Ühendriikides
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Ajaloo mõistete sõnastik:
https://sites.google.com/site/mariakurisoo/oppe/ajalugu // Maria Kurisoo (asjalikumaid Google tasuta kodulehti mida näinud)
https://sites.google.com/site/mariakurisoo/oppe/ajalugu/ajaloo-moistete-sonastik?tmpl=%2Fsystem%2Fapp%2Ftemplates%2Fprint%2F&showPrintDialog=1
aarjalased – muistsesse Indiasse tunginud indoeuroopa hõimud, tänapäeva hindude esivanemad
Komintern – Kommunistlik Internatsionaal, rahvusvahelise kommunistliku liikumise keskne organisatsioon, mis asutati 1919. aastal
kommunism – poliitiline õpetus, mis püüab saavutada sotsiaalset võrdsust proletariaadi diktatuuri kehtestamise abil ja mille eesmargiks on klasside ja eraomandita ühiskond
konkistadoor – (hispaania keeles „conquistador“ ehk vallutaja) hispaania ja portugali seiklejad, kes osalesid 16. sajandil Ameerika vallutamisel
konservatiivne – alalhoidlik, traditsioonilisi vaateid säilitav ja ajaloolist järjepidevust tähtsustav
konservatism – alalhoidlikkus, traditsioonilisi vaateid säilitav ja ajaloolist järjepidevust tähtsustav poliitiline õpetus
liberalism – vabameelsus, inimeste võrdõiguslikkust ja vabadust tähtsustav poliitiline õpetus; vt ka majanduslik liberalism
Marshalli plaan – USA ulatuslik majandusabi Teises maailmasõjas kannatanud Euroopa riikidele
metseen – kirjanduse ja kultuuri heldekäeline toetaja, Augustuse valitsemisajal elanud rikka roomlase Maecenase järgi, kes kasutas oma tohutut varandust andekate kirjanike abistamiseks
monarhia – riigivalitsemisvorm, mille puhul riigipea on harilikult eluaegse ja päriliku võimuga monarh (kuningas, keiser, tsaar, sultan)
narodniklus – Venemaal 19. sajandi teisel poolel haritlaskonna hulgas levinud sotsialistlik liikumine, mis rõhutas rahvalikkust ja tagasipöördumist nn ürgvenelike arusaamade juurde
natsionaalsotsialism ehk natsism – äärmuslik liikumine ja õpetus Saksamaal aastatel 1919 – 1945, mis taotles aaria rassi väidetavale erandlikkusele toetudes parema ühiskonna loomist; seisnes üksikisiku allutamises grupile, agressiivsuses naabrite suhtes, juhikultuses, nn alavaartuslike inimeste ja rahvaste (juutide ja mustlaste) hävitamises
Rahvasteliit – Pariisi rahukonverentsil loodud organisatsioon, mille eesmärgiks oli riikide omavaheliste tülide rahumeelne lahendamine ning rahvusvaheline koostöö; tegutses 1920 – 1946, ÜRO eelkäija
Ühinenud Rahvaste Organisatsioon (ÜRO) – pärast Teist maailmasõda (1945) asutatud tähtsaim rahvusvaheline organisatsioon, mille eesmärk on kõikide rahvaste ühendamine, et vältida sõdu, tugevdada rahvusvahelist julgeolekut, kaitsta demokraatiat ja edendada rahvaste igakülgset koostööd
üliriik – erakordselt võimas suurriik, mille mõju ulatub üle kogu maailma; kasutatakse tavaliselt USA ja NSV Liidu kohta
raudne eesriie – NSV Liidu katse eraldada ennast ja oma liitlasi muust maailmast
renessanss – (prantsuse keeles „renaissance“ ehk taassünd) hiliskeskaegses Itaalias alguse saanud murrang Euroopa vaimuelus ja kultuuris. Levis inimest väärtustav ehk humanistlik ellusuhtumine ja eeskujusid hakati otsima antiikkultuurist. Euroopa keskaja lõppu ja varauusaega nimetatakse sageli renessanssi ajajärguks
totalitaarne diktatuur – diktaatorlikul võimukasutusel põhinev valitsemisvorm, millega kaasneb kontroll kodanike mõtteavalduste ja väljendusvõimaluste üle ning inimõiguste rikkumine
vaimulik rüütliordu – rüütlite sõjaline vennaskond, mille liikmed andsid mungatõotused (vaesus, abielutus ja kuulekus oma ülematele) ning pühendusid kiriku kaitsmisele relvaga
vastureformatsioon - usuline ja poliitiline liikumine, mille paavstid algatasid katoliku kiriku sisemiseks muutmiseks ja protestantismile kaotatud alade tagasivõitmiseks
Wehrmacht – hitlerliku Saksamaa relvajõudude nimetus
föderatism – riikide ühinemise põhimõte, mille järgi mitu riiki moodustavad liitriigi (föderatsiooni)
filosoof – kreeka k „tarkuse armastaja“; muistses Kreekas õpetlane, kes juurdles maailma olemuse üle foorum – turuplats Roomas, rajati parast küngastevahelise soo kuivendamist
feenid – Iirimaa iseseisvust taotlenud poliitilise salaühingu liikmed 19. sajandil
aadel (rüütliseisus) – suursuguste sõjameeste seisus keskaegses Euroopas; selle moodustasid kõik feodaalid keisrist väikeaadliteni
Antant – Suurbritannia, Prantsusmaa ja Venemaa liit 1907 –1917, moodustati vastukaaluks Kolmikliidule
abolitsionistlik liikumine – orjapidamise kaotamist taotlev liikumine Ameerika Ühendriikides
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https://sites.google.com/site/mariakurisoo/oppe/ajalugu
22 March 2018 22:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//jätk//
Kuid kõige selle juures ei ole mere weel Vastanud küsimuse pääle mis tähtsus siiski esimesel Internatsionaalil on? Engels tähendab küll ülaltoodud kirjas, et Jnternatsionaali waimlik sünnitus oli Pariisi Kommuuna. See tähendab, et Jnternatsionaal oma tegewuses juhtis töölisklassi wöitlust, andis sellele wõltlussihi, andis töölisklassi Vabastusele alused jne. Meie teame esimese Internatsionaali ajaloost, et Internatsionaali kongressid olid pääasjalikult teadusliku sotsialismi ja kommuuismi teoreetiliseks propageerimiseks, millised alused juba ..Kommunistlikus manifeStis" Marxi ja Engelsi poolt ära määratud. Kongressidel aga Võistlesid mitmed teoreetlikud woolud: proudhonism, anarkism, ökonomism, liberalism ja kommunism ehk marksism. Ning teame, et nendel kongressidel lõppude-lõpuks rewolutsiooniline marksism Võitis. Iseäranis tähtsad töölisklassi Võitluses on esimese Jnternatsionaali otsused, mis määrawad töölisklassi Võitluse wormid. Esimene Internatsionaal ütleb otsekoheselt: töölisklass wõib wõitluses ainult enese pääle loota. Vabaks saab ta kui Võtab poliitilise wöimu, majanduslik Vabanemine oleneb poliitilisest wabancmisest, poliitiliselt Võib töölisklass wabaks saada, kui ta on organiseeritud töölisklassi poliitilistesse parteidesse ning on organiseeritud rahwuswaheliselt ja rahwuswaheline Võitlus Vabastab. Partei peab olema Võitlusorganisatsioon keskendatud, kindla distsipliiniga. Partei peab olema rahwuswaheline kommunistlik partei. Pääle teoreetiliste Vaidluste igasuguste lahkudega ja põhimõtteliste otsuSte wõttis esimene Internatsionaal tegetikult osa ka töölisklassi Võitlustest. Ta juhtis töölisklassi Võitlusi (streikisid) Inglismaal, Prantsusmaal, Helweetsias ja Belgias. Nendel juhtumistel olid hääd tagajärjed. Samuti juhtis Internatsionaal Sak.a ja Prantsuse internatsionalistide tegewust Saksa-Prantsuse sõja ajal 1870— 71 aastatel ja wõttis osa Pariisi Kommuuna saatusest. Esimene Internatsionaal ei lasknud ühtki töölisklassi liigutust möödo, et ta selle pääle ei reageerinud. Jnternatsionaal oli töölisliikumise teskpunkt. Lenin oma kirjatöös „111 Internatsionaalja tema kohtajaloos", mis kirjutatud 15. aprillil j 919 aastal ja awaldatud esimesena 15. mait samal aastal ajakirjas
Ila?*nr. 1 annab esimese ..Internatsionaali tähtsuse kohta järgmise otsuse: Jnternatsionaal (!8o4 —1872) p ani rahw usVahelisele tööliste organisatsioonile aluse, et nende rewolutsioonilist pääletungtmi st kapitaalile ettewalmistada. Esimene Inter natsionaalpanialuse tööliste rahwuswahelisele wõitluse l e s o tsial i s m i e e st". Et piltlikult esimese Internatsionaali tähtsust näidata, siis toon ühe otsuse, mis oma Väärtust ei ole kaotanud tänapäewani, s. o. 1871 a. septembris Londoni konwerentsi otsus, mis järgmiselt käib: ohjestamata reaktsiooni, mis tööliste Vabastuse liikumist Vägiwaldselt maha surub ja toore jõuga klassilist jagunemist ning sellest olenewat poliitilist jõukate klassi Valitsust alles tahab hoida; et sotsiaalse rewolutsionni Võidu ktndlustamisetS ja löpusihi klasside hälvituseks tööliste poliitilisse parteisse organiseerimine tarwilik on; et majanduslikus Võitluses tööliste jõudude ühendamine saawutatud, siis peab see ühendus ka pideks olema töölisklassi Võitluses eksploateerijate poliitilise wõimn wastu, konwereuts tuletab kõigile Jnternatsionaali liikmetele meele, et töölisklassi wõrtlusplaauis tema majanduslik Võitlus ja poliitiline tegewus on lahutamatu teine teisega." Samuti tähendab Marx Internatsionaali Päänõukogu nimel awaldatud ma? uifcstis Pariisi Kommuuna lagunemise puhul muu seas: „Pariisi Kommuuna oli sisuliselt töölisklassi Valitsuseks, ta oli walmistawa ja omandaja klasside Võitluse tagajärjeks, ta oli juba ammu otsitud poliitiliseks Vormiks, milleS Vöiks majanduslik tööwabastamine sündida... Tööliste Pariis oma Kommunaga on alati pühitsetawad tui suurepärane uue ühiskonna eeldus..." Esimene Internatsionaal pam alused Kolmandale Internatsionaalile, pant alused töölisklassi Vabastusele, kommunisttikule rewolutsioonile. 1872 a. miitingul kriipsutas Marx õieti alla Internatsionaali tcgewuse põhimõtted, kui ta ütles: mätetame Internatsionaali aluspõhimõtet solidaarsust. Meie saawutame kõrge sihi kätte, kui tugewasti kindlustame kõigi maade tööliste massisse selle elustama põhimõtte. Rewolutsioon peab olema solidaarne, milliseks suurcpäraliseks näituseks on Pariisi Kommuuna, mis langeS seepärast, et kõigis keskpunktides, Berliinis, Madliidis jne. ei tõusnud suur rewolutsiooniline liikumine ühenduses tugema Pariisi tööliste ülesastumisega... minu järeljäänud elupäewad, nagu ennemgi, pühendan sotsiaalsele ideede Võidule. mis Vara eht hiljem toob töölisklasi Võimu juure". Esimene Internatsionaal lagunes wälise surwe ja seesmise kisklemise tagajärjel, kuid esimeie Internatsionaali poolt püstitotud põhimõtted jäid alaliselt tööliste? klassi südamesse ja ?i -alwis pikk rida aastaid kogumiseks ja organiseerimiseks kui Oktoobrircwolutsioon Wenemaal 1917 a. neid põhimõtteid teostama hakkas ja kui 1919 o. uuesti tärkas Internatsionaal, juba kolmas Kommunistlik Internatsionaal, kui w õ itluse organisatsioon, kes esimese Internatsionaali poolt püstitalud põhimõtted teostab terwes ilmaS' Rahwusriikide kujunemine, majanduslik uus tõus ja kodanliku klassi natsisnaalne tegewus tõmbas ajutiselt töölisklassi tähelepaneku seesmisele tegewusele. Võitlusele. Töölised üksikutes rahwusriikides asusid poliitiliste parteide loomisele, et seega esimese Internatsionaali pöhimõtet osaliselt täita. Internatsionaalne tegewus kadus, kuid ajutiselt. Kapitalismi rahwuswaheline iseloom, rahwuswaheline tegutsus ei Võimaldanud töölisklassil te» gewuses olla ainult rahwusriikide piirides. Vaid tekkinud töölisklassi sotsialistlikud parteid katsuwad uuesti organiseerida end rahwuswaheliselt. Uuesti algab rahwuS
Vaheliste kongresside ajajärk ja 1889 a. Pariisis pannakse juba uuele teisele Jnternatsionaalile alus. 1889 aastal algab tegevust Teine Jnternat si o n a a l. Kui esimese Jnternatsionaali tegevuse alusjõuks oli Prantsuse tööliste revolutsiooniline liikumine ja Inglismaa organiseeritud töölisklass, siis tetse Internatsionaali aluseks sai Saksa töölisklass - Saksa sotsiaal-de-mokraatliku parteiga. Tegevuse keskpunkt Pramsus- ja Inglismaalt läks üle Saksamaale. Marx oli juba surnud (1883 a.) ja teise Internatsionaali hälli juures oli ainult Engels (suri 1895 a.) Seega Saksa sotsiaaldemokraatlik partei muutus teise Internatsionaali vaimlikuks isaks. Saksa sotsiaaldemokraatiast olenes teise Internatsionaali tegevus, sihtjoon ja esimise Internatsionaali põhimõtete teostus. Parlamentarism ning kiire Saksamaa töös. tuse tõus ja imperialistlik asumaade poliitika ei võimaldanud teisel Jnternatsionaalil teostada ülesandeid, mis rahvusvahelise tööliste organisatsiooni ülesanneteks. Teine Internatsionaal uppus parlamentarismi, uppus imperialismi poliitika võrku ja 19li a. sõjaga kaotas oma tähtsuse kui tööliste võitluse organisatsioon ning muutus imperialistliku kodanltse abiorganisatsiooniks.
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Kuid kõige selle juures ei ole mere weel Vastanud küsimuse pääle mis tähtsus siiski esimesel Internatsionaalil on? Engels tähendab küll ülaltoodud kirjas, et Jnternatsionaali waimlik sünnitus oli Pariisi Kommuuna. See tähendab, et Jnternatsionaal oma tegewuses juhtis töölisklassi wöitlust, andis sellele wõltlussihi, andis töölisklassi Vabastusele alused jne. Meie teame esimese Internatsionaali ajaloost, et Internatsionaali kongressid olid pääasjalikult teadusliku sotsialismi ja kommuuismi teoreetiliseks propageerimiseks, millised alused juba ..Kommunistlikus manifeStis" Marxi ja Engelsi poolt ära määratud. Kongressidel aga Võistlesid mitmed teoreetlikud woolud: proudhonism, anarkism, ökonomism, liberalism ja kommunism ehk marksism. Ning teame, et nendel kongressidel lõppude-lõpuks rewolutsiooniline marksism Võitis. Iseäranis tähtsad töölisklassi Võitluses on esimese Jnternatsionaali otsused, mis määrawad töölisklassi Võitluse wormid. Esimene Internatsionaal ütleb otsekoheselt: töölisklass wõib wõitluses ainult enese pääle loota. Vabaks saab ta kui Võtab poliitilise wöimu, majanduslik Vabanemine oleneb poliitilisest wabancmisest, poliitiliselt Võib töölisklass wabaks saada, kui ta on organiseeritud töölisklassi poliitilistesse parteidesse ning on organiseeritud rahwuswaheliselt ja rahwuswaheline Võitlus Vabastab. Partei peab olema Võitlusorganisatsioon keskendatud, kindla distsipliiniga. Partei peab olema rahwuswaheline kommunistlik partei. Pääle teoreetiliste Vaidluste igasuguste lahkudega ja põhimõtteliste otsuSte wõttis esimene Internatsionaal tegetikult osa ka töölisklassi Võitlustest. Ta juhtis töölisklassi Võitlusi (streikisid) Inglismaal, Prantsusmaal, Helweetsias ja Belgias. Nendel juhtumistel olid hääd tagajärjed. Samuti juhtis Internatsionaal Sak.a ja Prantsuse internatsionalistide tegewust Saksa-Prantsuse sõja ajal 1870— 71 aastatel ja wõttis osa Pariisi Kommuuna saatusest. Esimene Internatsionaal ei lasknud ühtki töölisklassi liigutust möödo, et ta selle pääle ei reageerinud. Jnternatsionaal oli töölisliikumise teskpunkt. Lenin oma kirjatöös „111 Internatsionaalja tema kohtajaloos", mis kirjutatud 15. aprillil j 919 aastal ja awaldatud esimesena 15. mait samal aastal ajakirjas
Ila?*nr. 1 annab esimese ..Internatsionaali tähtsuse kohta järgmise otsuse: Jnternatsionaal (!8o4 —1872) p ani rahw usVahelisele tööliste organisatsioonile aluse, et nende rewolutsioonilist pääletungtmi st kapitaalile ettewalmistada. Esimene Inter natsionaalpanialuse tööliste rahwuswahelisele wõitluse l e s o tsial i s m i e e st". Et piltlikult esimese Internatsionaali tähtsust näidata, siis toon ühe otsuse, mis oma Väärtust ei ole kaotanud tänapäewani, s. o. 1871 a. septembris Londoni konwerentsi otsus, mis järgmiselt käib: ohjestamata reaktsiooni, mis tööliste Vabastuse liikumist Vägiwaldselt maha surub ja toore jõuga klassilist jagunemist ning sellest olenewat poliitilist jõukate klassi Valitsust alles tahab hoida; et sotsiaalse rewolutsionni Võidu ktndlustamisetS ja löpusihi klasside hälvituseks tööliste poliitilisse parteisse organiseerimine tarwilik on; et majanduslikus Võitluses tööliste jõudude ühendamine saawutatud, siis peab see ühendus ka pideks olema töölisklassi Võitluses eksploateerijate poliitilise wõimn wastu, konwereuts tuletab kõigile Jnternatsionaali liikmetele meele, et töölisklassi wõrtlusplaauis tema majanduslik Võitlus ja poliitiline tegewus on lahutamatu teine teisega." Samuti tähendab Marx Internatsionaali Päänõukogu nimel awaldatud ma? uifcstis Pariisi Kommuuna lagunemise puhul muu seas: „Pariisi Kommuuna oli sisuliselt töölisklassi Valitsuseks, ta oli walmistawa ja omandaja klasside Võitluse tagajärjeks, ta oli juba ammu otsitud poliitiliseks Vormiks, milleS Vöiks majanduslik tööwabastamine sündida... Tööliste Pariis oma Kommunaga on alati pühitsetawad tui suurepärane uue ühiskonna eeldus..." Esimene Internatsionaal pam alused Kolmandale Internatsionaalile, pant alused töölisklassi Vabastusele, kommunisttikule rewolutsioonile. 1872 a. miitingul kriipsutas Marx õieti alla Internatsionaali tcgewuse põhimõtted, kui ta ütles: mätetame Internatsionaali aluspõhimõtet solidaarsust. Meie saawutame kõrge sihi kätte, kui tugewasti kindlustame kõigi maade tööliste massisse selle elustama põhimõtte. Rewolutsioon peab olema solidaarne, milliseks suurcpäraliseks näituseks on Pariisi Kommuuna, mis langeS seepärast, et kõigis keskpunktides, Berliinis, Madliidis jne. ei tõusnud suur rewolutsiooniline liikumine ühenduses tugema Pariisi tööliste ülesastumisega... minu järeljäänud elupäewad, nagu ennemgi, pühendan sotsiaalsele ideede Võidule. mis Vara eht hiljem toob töölisklasi Võimu juure". Esimene Internatsionaal lagunes wälise surwe ja seesmise kisklemise tagajärjel, kuid esimeie Internatsionaali poolt püstitotud põhimõtted jäid alaliselt tööliste? klassi südamesse ja ?i -alwis pikk rida aastaid kogumiseks ja organiseerimiseks kui Oktoobrircwolutsioon Wenemaal 1917 a. neid põhimõtteid teostama hakkas ja kui 1919 o. uuesti tärkas Internatsionaal, juba kolmas Kommunistlik Internatsionaal, kui w õ itluse organisatsioon, kes esimese Internatsionaali poolt püstitalud põhimõtted teostab terwes ilmaS' Rahwusriikide kujunemine, majanduslik uus tõus ja kodanliku klassi natsisnaalne tegewus tõmbas ajutiselt töölisklassi tähelepaneku seesmisele tegewusele. Võitlusele. Töölised üksikutes rahwusriikides asusid poliitiliste parteide loomisele, et seega esimese Internatsionaali pöhimõtet osaliselt täita. Internatsionaalne tegewus kadus, kuid ajutiselt. Kapitalismi rahwuswaheline iseloom, rahwuswaheline tegutsus ei Võimaldanud töölisklassil te» gewuses olla ainult rahwusriikide piirides. Vaid tekkinud töölisklassi sotsialistlikud parteid katsuwad uuesti organiseerida end rahwuswaheliselt. Uuesti algab rahwuS
Vaheliste kongresside ajajärk ja 1889 a. Pariisis pannakse juba uuele teisele Jnternatsionaalile alus. 1889 aastal algab tegevust Teine Jnternat si o n a a l. Kui esimese Jnternatsionaali tegevuse alusjõuks oli Prantsuse tööliste revolutsiooniline liikumine ja Inglismaa organiseeritud töölisklass, siis tetse Internatsionaali aluseks sai Saksa töölisklass - Saksa sotsiaal-de-mokraatliku parteiga. Tegevuse keskpunkt Pramsus- ja Inglismaalt läks üle Saksamaale. Marx oli juba surnud (1883 a.) ja teise Internatsionaali hälli juures oli ainult Engels (suri 1895 a.) Seega Saksa sotsiaaldemokraatlik partei muutus teise Internatsionaali vaimlikuks isaks. Saksa sotsiaaldemokraatiast olenes teise Internatsionaali tegevus, sihtjoon ja esimise Internatsionaali põhimõtete teostus. Parlamentarism ning kiire Saksamaa töös. tuse tõus ja imperialistlik asumaade poliitika ei võimaldanud teisel Jnternatsionaalil teostada ülesandeid, mis rahvusvahelise tööliste organisatsiooni ülesanneteks. Teine Internatsionaal uppus parlamentarismi, uppus imperialismi poliitika võrku ja 19li a. sõjaga kaotas oma tähtsuse kui tööliste võitluse organisatsioon ning muutus imperialistliku kodanltse abiorganisatsiooniks.
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22 March 2018 22:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
II Internatsionaal pöördus Rahvasteliidu poole
http://dea.digar.ee/cgi-bin/dea?a=d&d=edasivene19240928.2.21
Edasi : Venemaa Kommunistline (enamlaste) Partei Peterburi Eesti osakonna häälekandja, nr. 220, 28 september 1924
Saksamaa käsitöölised, kokkupuutudes prantslastega ja elades tihtigi Prantsusmaal, tutwunesid Prantsusmaa tööliste Võitlusega, tutwunesid Pr ntsuse sotsialismiga, mis eluõigust nõudis juba Prantsuse suure rewolutsiooni ajast. Siin ühes Prantsusmaa sotsialismi seltantidcga locwad Saksamaa käsitöölised omale ühisused ja Viimane neist «Õiglaste ühisus" ei mõtle oma tegewust piirata ainult Saksa tööliste hulgas, waid katsub oma ühisusele anda rahwuswahelise aime. Ta säeb oma hüüdsõnaks: «Kõik rahwas on Vennad!" Selle lipukirja all algab töö, tööliste ja lõigi lurnaiute Vabastamise töö. Kuid see tegewus ei olnud rajatud teadusliku sotsialismi ehk kommunismi alustele ja loomulikult jäi ta hääks katseks Wilhelm Weitlingi poolt, kes ühisuse teoreetiliseks isaks oli. 1839 aastal purustas Prantsuse Valitsus ühes Prantsusmaa ühisustega ka selle ühisuse. See ci kaotanud aga püüdu rahwusVahelise ühisuse järele, waid ta kaswasja kõwenes, ning töölisliikumine andis talle kindlama teoreetilise aluse ja seisukoha. «Õiglaste ühisusest" kujuneb ta kõmmunistliluks ühinguks ja teoreetiker Weitlingi asemele astub Karl Marx ja Fr. Engels. Marx, kes ühes Engelsiga terwe ühiskondliku liikumise suutsid arwele Võtta, ei Võiund jääda sektantlikule-utopistlikule seisukohale, waid nad andsid uuele liikumisele kindla teoreetilise aluse. Kui kommunisttikkude ühingute konwereuts 1847 aastal Marxile ja Engclsile kohuseks tegi wäljatöötada kommunistliku ühingu (partei) põhikirja ja teoreetilised alused, niug pöörata terwe ilma tööliste poole juba uue hüüdsõnaga: «Kõigi maade töölised, ühinege"! Siis ilmus see kuulus „K oinin u n isi li t m ani f esi", miS teaduslikule sotsialismile ning teadlikule llassiwõitlusele aluse pani. See oli 1848 aastal, wara kcwadel. Kuid 1848 aasta Euroopa rcwolutsioonid ei annud Wöimaiust wäheoiwul stel kommunistidel töötada organisatsiooni kindlustamise juurcs, waid wiskaS nad söjariistalise wöitluswäljale ning poliitilise reaktsiooni Võit hawiias selle klassiteadliku kommunistliku organisatsiooni. Lõpu momendiks wõib luglda Saksamaal prowotseeritud Kölni kommunistide protsessi 1862 aastal. Samasugused rahwuswahelise ühisuse loomise taljed olid ta Inglismaa tööliste liikumises. Kuulus chanistide liikumine ühes harus mõtles töölistele anda rahwusVahelist Võitluse organisatsiooni, siis 50 aastatel «Vennalikud demokraadid" ehk «Demokraatlik Vendlus" latsus samuti kujuneda rohwuswaheliseks organisatsiooniks ia loodi isegi «Rahwuswaheline komi:co".
Kõik need organisatsioonid olid esimese Jnternaisionnaali eelkäijateks ning teerajojateks. See oli raske ajajärk tcölisklassile püüle 48 aasta lüüasaamist. Karl Marx iseloomustab esimese Internatsionaali asutamise manifestis seda ajajärtu järgmiselt: „Celle tõusu jooVastuse ajajärgus" tõusis näljasurm Suurbritannia päälinnas ühiskondliku asutuse astmesse" (Minu sõrendus. s. P.). „Püäle 48 a. rewolutsiooni lüüasaamist HÜwilati kõik ühisused, tõik poliitilised töö» lisklassi ajakirjad toore käe jõuga"... „lõik töölisklassi Vabastamise öhuunistuscd Vaikisid selle tööstusliku palawiku, kõlbluse uinumise ja poliitilise reaktsiooni ajajärgus". Bonapartism ei Võinud täiel määral kodanlust poliitiliselt rahuldada, ei Võivud rahuldada sugugi töölisklassi ega ka talupoja nõudeid ja see andis opposilsioouilistele ollustele hoogu poliitiliseks Võitkuseks. Tööstuse kasw ja sellega ühes ka töölisklassi, lajw teritasid tahes ehk taht
mata tööliste iseteadwust ning andsid hoogu töölistele organiseerimiseks. Pääle selle aitasid rahwuswahelise tööliste organisatsiooni loomiseks palju kaasa rahwusVahelised tööstuse wäljanäitustd, siis Kaukaasia Valdamine Wenemaa poolt ja Poolamaa rewolutsiooni mahasurumine 1863 aastal. Need sündmused panid mõtled liikuma ja awasid läbikäimise Inglise, Prantsuse ja Saksa tööliste Vahel. 1863 aastal juulis pöörawad Inglise töölised Prantsuse tööliste poole kirjaga, kus muu seas on öeldud: töölistele Inglismaa töölistelt. Praegusele jõuga kuritarwidustcle lõputegemise abinõuga kutsume teid rahwaste Vendlust looma. Kutsume Prantsusmaa, Saksamaa, Itaalia, Poolamaa ja kõigi.maade esitajate koosoleku, kellel on tahtmist ühise inimsoo kasuks töötamiseks, kmsume kokku omad kongressid suurte küsimuste arutamiseks, millistest oleneb rahwaste rahu..." Edasi räägitakse, er töölistele on äärmiselt tarwis rahwaste Vendlus, sest kui ühe maa töölised katsuwad oma seisukorda parandada, siis ähwardatakfe teiste maa tööliste kutsumisega, kes Vähema tasu eest on nõus töötama ning sarnased juhtumised on aset leidnud.. . Pääle selle üteldakse, et praegune esimene ülesanne Inglise ja Prantsuse töölistel on Poolamaa Vabadus. .. Prantsuse saatkond Tolaineiga eesotsas andis wastuse Inglise töölistele 28. sept. 1864 a. miitingul, miS lõppes kõigi maade tööliste ühinemisele kutsega, et «päästame endid ühistunde abil." Sellel miitingul otsustatigi luua „Nahwuswaheline tööliste ühisus" ning waliti ajutine nõukogu, kes põhikirja wälja pidi töötama ning manifestiga pöörama kõigi maade tööliste poole. Nii lekkis 1864 a. esimene Internatsionaal.
lu s dilletantide katsetega ja lahkudega, kes tahtsid Internatsionaali oma ridades seisukohta tõsise töölisteliikumise wastu Võtta. Seda Võitlust peeti kongressidel ja suuremas enamuses Päänõukogu sagedastel nõupidamistel üksikute sektsioonidega". Edasi kirjutab Marx, et Pariisis olid proudhonislid. Saksamaal lassaliaanlaste kildkond halekuulsa (berüchligten) Schweitzeriga eesotsas, 1868 a. Internatsionaali astus Bakunin, kes Internatsionaali sees tahtis teist Internatsionaali de la Democratie Socialiste" luua. Bakunin on ilma teoreetiliste teadmisteta inimene. Tema programm on igalt poolt wäljakraabitud osadest kokku säetud. Ta kirjutab ette klasside üheõigusluse(!), päranduseöiguse ärakaotami s e kui sotsiaalse liikumise aluspunkti (Saint Simoni sonimised), ateismi kui dogma ja päüdogmaks on poliit i k a st ee - male hoidmine (Proudhoni järele). Marx tähendab edasi: „ töölisklassi „poliitiline liikumine" iseenesestki mõistetaw, säeb oma lõpusihiks „polii - tilise wöimu" Võtmise, selleks on aga teatawa momendini eelkäiwa organisatsiooni" arenemine tarwis, mis iseenesest töõlsklassi majanduslikust Võitlusest wälja kaswab". Mis otstarbel Internatsionaal oli asutalud, selle pääle wastab Marx samas kirjas: oli asutatud seep ä r a st. et sotsialisttikkude ja pool-sotsialistlikkude lahkude asemele anda töölisklassile Võitluse organisatsioon. Lahud on ajalooliselt õigustatud ainult niipalju, kuipalju töölisklass ei ole weel ajalooliseks liikumiseks küps; tööliste küpsusega lahud muutuwad sisuliselt reaktsioonUsteks".
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Edasi : Venemaa Kommunistline (enamlaste) Partei Peterburi Eesti osakonna häälekandja, nr. 220, 28 september 1924
Saksamaa käsitöölised, kokkupuutudes prantslastega ja elades tihtigi Prantsusmaal, tutwunesid Prantsusmaa tööliste Võitlusega, tutwunesid Pr ntsuse sotsialismiga, mis eluõigust nõudis juba Prantsuse suure rewolutsiooni ajast. Siin ühes Prantsusmaa sotsialismi seltantidcga locwad Saksamaa käsitöölised omale ühisused ja Viimane neist «Õiglaste ühisus" ei mõtle oma tegewust piirata ainult Saksa tööliste hulgas, waid katsub oma ühisusele anda rahwuswahelise aime. Ta säeb oma hüüdsõnaks: «Kõik rahwas on Vennad!" Selle lipukirja all algab töö, tööliste ja lõigi lurnaiute Vabastamise töö. Kuid see tegewus ei olnud rajatud teadusliku sotsialismi ehk kommunismi alustele ja loomulikult jäi ta hääks katseks Wilhelm Weitlingi poolt, kes ühisuse teoreetiliseks isaks oli. 1839 aastal purustas Prantsuse Valitsus ühes Prantsusmaa ühisustega ka selle ühisuse. See ci kaotanud aga püüdu rahwusVahelise ühisuse järele, waid ta kaswasja kõwenes, ning töölisliikumine andis talle kindlama teoreetilise aluse ja seisukoha. «Õiglaste ühisusest" kujuneb ta kõmmunistliluks ühinguks ja teoreetiker Weitlingi asemele astub Karl Marx ja Fr. Engels. Marx, kes ühes Engelsiga terwe ühiskondliku liikumise suutsid arwele Võtta, ei Võiund jääda sektantlikule-utopistlikule seisukohale, waid nad andsid uuele liikumisele kindla teoreetilise aluse. Kui kommunisttikkude ühingute konwereuts 1847 aastal Marxile ja Engclsile kohuseks tegi wäljatöötada kommunistliku ühingu (partei) põhikirja ja teoreetilised alused, niug pöörata terwe ilma tööliste poole juba uue hüüdsõnaga: «Kõigi maade töölised, ühinege"! Siis ilmus see kuulus „K oinin u n isi li t m ani f esi", miS teaduslikule sotsialismile ning teadlikule llassiwõitlusele aluse pani. See oli 1848 aastal, wara kcwadel. Kuid 1848 aasta Euroopa rcwolutsioonid ei annud Wöimaiust wäheoiwul stel kommunistidel töötada organisatsiooni kindlustamise juurcs, waid wiskaS nad söjariistalise wöitluswäljale ning poliitilise reaktsiooni Võit hawiias selle klassiteadliku kommunistliku organisatsiooni. Lõpu momendiks wõib luglda Saksamaal prowotseeritud Kölni kommunistide protsessi 1862 aastal. Samasugused rahwuswahelise ühisuse loomise taljed olid ta Inglismaa tööliste liikumises. Kuulus chanistide liikumine ühes harus mõtles töölistele anda rahwusVahelist Võitluse organisatsiooni, siis 50 aastatel «Vennalikud demokraadid" ehk «Demokraatlik Vendlus" latsus samuti kujuneda rohwuswaheliseks organisatsiooniks ia loodi isegi «Rahwuswaheline komi:co".
Kõik need organisatsioonid olid esimese Jnternaisionnaali eelkäijateks ning teerajojateks. See oli raske ajajärk tcölisklassile püüle 48 aasta lüüasaamist. Karl Marx iseloomustab esimese Internatsionaali asutamise manifestis seda ajajärtu järgmiselt: „Celle tõusu jooVastuse ajajärgus" tõusis näljasurm Suurbritannia päälinnas ühiskondliku asutuse astmesse" (Minu sõrendus. s. P.). „Püäle 48 a. rewolutsiooni lüüasaamist HÜwilati kõik ühisused, tõik poliitilised töö» lisklassi ajakirjad toore käe jõuga"... „lõik töölisklassi Vabastamise öhuunistuscd Vaikisid selle tööstusliku palawiku, kõlbluse uinumise ja poliitilise reaktsiooni ajajärgus". Bonapartism ei Võinud täiel määral kodanlust poliitiliselt rahuldada, ei Võivud rahuldada sugugi töölisklassi ega ka talupoja nõudeid ja see andis opposilsioouilistele ollustele hoogu poliitiliseks Võitkuseks. Tööstuse kasw ja sellega ühes ka töölisklassi, lajw teritasid tahes ehk taht
mata tööliste iseteadwust ning andsid hoogu töölistele organiseerimiseks. Pääle selle aitasid rahwuswahelise tööliste organisatsiooni loomiseks palju kaasa rahwusVahelised tööstuse wäljanäitustd, siis Kaukaasia Valdamine Wenemaa poolt ja Poolamaa rewolutsiooni mahasurumine 1863 aastal. Need sündmused panid mõtled liikuma ja awasid läbikäimise Inglise, Prantsuse ja Saksa tööliste Vahel. 1863 aastal juulis pöörawad Inglise töölised Prantsuse tööliste poole kirjaga, kus muu seas on öeldud: töölistele Inglismaa töölistelt. Praegusele jõuga kuritarwidustcle lõputegemise abinõuga kutsume teid rahwaste Vendlust looma. Kutsume Prantsusmaa, Saksamaa, Itaalia, Poolamaa ja kõigi.maade esitajate koosoleku, kellel on tahtmist ühise inimsoo kasuks töötamiseks, kmsume kokku omad kongressid suurte küsimuste arutamiseks, millistest oleneb rahwaste rahu..." Edasi räägitakse, er töölistele on äärmiselt tarwis rahwaste Vendlus, sest kui ühe maa töölised katsuwad oma seisukorda parandada, siis ähwardatakfe teiste maa tööliste kutsumisega, kes Vähema tasu eest on nõus töötama ning sarnased juhtumised on aset leidnud.. . Pääle selle üteldakse, et praegune esimene ülesanne Inglise ja Prantsuse töölistel on Poolamaa Vabadus. .. Prantsuse saatkond Tolaineiga eesotsas andis wastuse Inglise töölistele 28. sept. 1864 a. miitingul, miS lõppes kõigi maade tööliste ühinemisele kutsega, et «päästame endid ühistunde abil." Sellel miitingul otsustatigi luua „Nahwuswaheline tööliste ühisus" ning waliti ajutine nõukogu, kes põhikirja wälja pidi töötama ning manifestiga pöörama kõigi maade tööliste poole. Nii lekkis 1864 a. esimene Internatsionaal.
lu s dilletantide katsetega ja lahkudega, kes tahtsid Internatsionaali oma ridades seisukohta tõsise töölisteliikumise wastu Võtta. Seda Võitlust peeti kongressidel ja suuremas enamuses Päänõukogu sagedastel nõupidamistel üksikute sektsioonidega". Edasi kirjutab Marx, et Pariisis olid proudhonislid. Saksamaal lassaliaanlaste kildkond halekuulsa (berüchligten) Schweitzeriga eesotsas, 1868 a. Internatsionaali astus Bakunin, kes Internatsionaali sees tahtis teist Internatsionaali de la Democratie Socialiste" luua. Bakunin on ilma teoreetiliste teadmisteta inimene. Tema programm on igalt poolt wäljakraabitud osadest kokku säetud. Ta kirjutab ette klasside üheõigusluse(!), päranduseöiguse ärakaotami s e kui sotsiaalse liikumise aluspunkti (Saint Simoni sonimised), ateismi kui dogma ja päüdogmaks on poliit i k a st ee - male hoidmine (Proudhoni järele). Marx tähendab edasi: „ töölisklassi „poliitiline liikumine" iseenesestki mõistetaw, säeb oma lõpusihiks „polii - tilise wöimu" Võtmise, selleks on aga teatawa momendini eelkäiwa organisatsiooni" arenemine tarwis, mis iseenesest töõlsklassi majanduslikust Võitlusest wälja kaswab". Mis otstarbel Internatsionaal oli asutalud, selle pääle wastab Marx samas kirjas: oli asutatud seep ä r a st. et sotsialisttikkude ja pool-sotsialistlikkude lahkude asemele anda töölisklassile Võitluse organisatsioon. Lahud on ajalooliselt õigustatud ainult niipalju, kuipalju töölisklass ei ole weel ajalooliseks liikumiseks küps; tööliste küpsusega lahud muutuwad sisuliselt reaktsioonUsteks".
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https://dea.digar.ee/cgi-bin/dea?a=d&d=edasivene19310730.2.11
Edasi : Venemaa Kommunistline (enamlaste) Partei Peterburi Eesti osakonna häälekandja, nr. 99, 30 juuli 1931
Sotsiaal-faschistide kokkulend Wiinis
11. Internatsionaal tõttab appi hukkuwale kapitalismile
Wiinist teatatakse. 25. juulil avati teise Internatsionaali kongress, mille saadikute koosseis selgesti näitab rahvusvahelise sotsiaal-demokraatlise organisatsiooni piiratud euroopalikku iseloomu. Täiesti puuduvad asumaade ja poolasumaade esitajad. Mac Donald, Henderson ja teised .sotsialist likud" ministrid ei ilmunud kongressile tegevuses oleku ettekäändel, mida võib tingimata seletada sellega, et ministrid .sotsialistid" ei soovi oma tööd valitsustes siduda kongressi otsustega. Enne kongressi avamist tegi teise Internatsionaali täidesaatekomitee muudatuse päevakorras. Wastusammudes rahvusvahelisele kodanlusele, kes kapitalistlise majapidamise hukkumise ähvardust kõrvalepõdrata püüab, seadis täidesaate komitee keskküsimusteks .Saksa rahva võitluse katastroofi vastu ja kõigi rahvaste võitluse sõja hädaohu vastu". Sotsiaal-demokraatlise ajakirjanduse sõnade järele .peavad teised suured ja väikesed küsimused, mis seisavad rahvus-
vahelise proletariadi ees, kapitalismi vastu võitlemise teooria ja taktika jne, küsimused kuigi nad tähtsad on, praegu kõrvale jätma". Need sotsiaaldemokraadiste ajalehtede sõnad paljastavad, põhjuseid, mis teist Internatsionaali, laialistes hulkades kasvava pahemale poole mineku ees suurt hirmu tundes sunnivad ära ütlema kapitalismi vastu võitlemise küsimuste arutamisest. Wastasel korral oleks sotsiaalfaschistlistel juhtidel tulnud veel kord kogu ilma ees avalikult väljaastuda hukkuva kapitalistlise süsteemi kaitseks. Kongressi avades teatas Vandervelde oma kõnes, et teine Internatsionaal tuli kokku momendil, kuna kapitalismi arenemine avalikuks toob poliitised ja majanduslisad vastolud. Siiski Saksamaale teise Internatsionaali toetust lubades, kriipsutas Vandervelde, vastavalt Prantsuse-Belgia imperialismi huvidele, alla, et mingisugune abi Saksamaale ei või sündida Prantsusmaa ja Belgia reparatsiooni huvide arvel.
Edasi : Venemaa Kommunistline (enamlaste) Partei Peterburi Eesti osakonna häälekandja, nr. 99, 30 juuli 1931
Sotsiaal-faschistide kokkulend Wiinis
11. Internatsionaal tõttab appi hukkuwale kapitalismile
Wiinist teatatakse. 25. juulil avati teise Internatsionaali kongress, mille saadikute koosseis selgesti näitab rahvusvahelise sotsiaal-demokraatlise organisatsiooni piiratud euroopalikku iseloomu. Täiesti puuduvad asumaade ja poolasumaade esitajad. Mac Donald, Henderson ja teised .sotsialist likud" ministrid ei ilmunud kongressile tegevuses oleku ettekäändel, mida võib tingimata seletada sellega, et ministrid .sotsialistid" ei soovi oma tööd valitsustes siduda kongressi otsustega. Enne kongressi avamist tegi teise Internatsionaali täidesaatekomitee muudatuse päevakorras. Wastusammudes rahvusvahelisele kodanlusele, kes kapitalistlise majapidamise hukkumise ähvardust kõrvalepõdrata püüab, seadis täidesaate komitee keskküsimusteks .Saksa rahva võitluse katastroofi vastu ja kõigi rahvaste võitluse sõja hädaohu vastu". Sotsiaal-demokraatlise ajakirjanduse sõnade järele .peavad teised suured ja väikesed küsimused, mis seisavad rahvus-
vahelise proletariadi ees, kapitalismi vastu võitlemise teooria ja taktika jne, küsimused kuigi nad tähtsad on, praegu kõrvale jätma". Need sotsiaaldemokraadiste ajalehtede sõnad paljastavad, põhjuseid, mis teist Internatsionaali, laialistes hulkades kasvava pahemale poole mineku ees suurt hirmu tundes sunnivad ära ütlema kapitalismi vastu võitlemise küsimuste arutamisest. Wastasel korral oleks sotsiaalfaschistlistel juhtidel tulnud veel kord kogu ilma ees avalikult väljaastuda hukkuva kapitalistlise süsteemi kaitseks. Kongressi avades teatas Vandervelde oma kõnes, et teine Internatsionaal tuli kokku momendil, kuna kapitalismi arenemine avalikuks toob poliitised ja majanduslisad vastolud. Siiski Saksamaale teise Internatsionaali toetust lubades, kriipsutas Vandervelde, vastavalt Prantsuse-Belgia imperialismi huvidele, alla, et mingisugune abi Saksamaale ei või sündida Prantsusmaa ja Belgia reparatsiooni huvide arvel.
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22 March 2018 22:27
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Hispaanias asutati 1869.a. internatsionaali sektsioonid, millised asusid suuremalt jaolt Bakunini poolel. Peale Internatsionaali kadumist säilitasid anarhistid ja omavad praegugi oma tähendust., osaledes kõigis rohkearvlistes pronunciamiento´des ((sõjaväeline riigipööre, mäss, mässuliste üleskutse)), mässudes, ülesatõusudes ja sooritasd poliitilisi mõrvu ning kallaletunge. Aeg-ajalt nad kutsuvad kokku oma kongresse (olulisemad olid 1882 ja 1883.a.)
1884.a. asutati Andaluusias tööliste hulgas salajane anarhistlik ühing Mano Negra, mis propageeris kõige verisemat terrorismi. See hävitati politsei poolt.
Anarhistide kõrval said sotsiaal-demokraadid 1872.a. mõnedes Internatsionaali sektsioonides ülekaalu, mis ühinesid ühte föderatsiooni. Varsti ta kadus ja edasi viieteistkümne aasta kestel, vaatamata mõnede töölisorganisatsioonide katsetele ühineda sotsiaal-demokraatlikusse parteisse ja vaatamata isegi 1885.a. Madriidis asutatud sotsiaal-demokraatlikule nädalalehele”El Socialista”, millise eesotsas oli andekas bublitsist Iglesias, oli sotsiaal-demokraatia Hispaanias üpris ebapopulaarne.
1888.a. kutsus ajalehe “El Socialiste” toimetus Barcelonas kokku sotsiaal-demokraatliku kongressi, millisel asutati Partido socialista obrero, töötati välja programm, milline oli sarnane saksa omale, ning põhikiri.
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Portugalis oli Internatsionaalil samuti edu ja nagu ka Hispaanias, oli peamiselt anarhistlike tendentsidega: kuid peale esimese hävimist olid anarhistid vähe märgatavad, kuigi veel 1889.a. nad andsid Oportos välja ajalehte “A Revoluzao social”.
Sotsiaal-demokraatlik partei asutati 1882.a. selle Lissaboni kongressil. Selle organisatsiooni armetust ilmestab see, et kongressil oli koos vaid 12 delegaati, kes esindasid 8 töölisringikest. Omamata võimalust iseseisvalt valimistel osalemiseks, siis partei toetab neil vabariiklasi. Partei on niivõrd nõrk, et ei tihti ei suuda oma delegaate rahvusvahelistele kongressidele saata.
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Skandinaavia maades ilmus sotsialistlik liikumine eelkõige:
Taanis, kus juba 1871.a. asutati Internatsionaali sektsioonid, mis asusid Marxi poolele. Kuid varsti, sisiki, valitsuse administratiivsete meetmete ning oma sisetülide tõttu need lagunesid.
1876.a. pani tööliskongress aluse sotsiaal-demokraatlikule parteile. Sellel kongressil olid 55 töölisorganisatsiooni esindajad, millistel oli 55 000 liiget. Tema programm on üpris sarnane saksa programmiga, kuid põllumajandusliku elanikkonna mõju kajastus selles, et see programm täiendati üpris kiiresti agraarprogrammiga, pidades silmas väiketalupoegi, rentnikke ja maaproletariaati. Märkimisväärsel määral tänu sellele, aga ka tänu puht-poliitilise tegevuse ühendamisele tööliste ametühingute liitude tegevusega, sai sotsiaal-demokraatlik partei Taanis suure tähtsuse.
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New Yorgis asutasid sakslased, saksa emigrant, revolutsionäär Sorge (Сорджа) eestvedamisel 1867.a. Internatsionaali sektsiooni. Sellele järgnesid sektsioonid teistes suuremates Põhja Ameerika linnades. Kõik need sektsioonid moodustati peaegu eranditult emigrantidest ja eriti sakslastest, kes tõid kodumaalt kaasa valmis sotsialistlikud veendumused, kas siis marksistlikud, või lassalle teooria põhjal. Liikmete arv ei ületanud 50 000 liiget.
1874.a. mõned Internatsionaali sektsioonid eraldusid selle föderatiivsest nõukogust (Ameerika Ühendriikides), milline samuti teatas nende laialisaatmisest, panid aluse „Põhja Ameerika sotsiaal-demokraatlikule parteile“. Internatsionaalist lahkulöömise (milline ise 1876.a.lõplikult hävis) põhjuseks oli vaada poliitilistest valimistest osavõtule. Internatsionaal pidas seda kasutuks, aga partei pidas hädavajalikuks. Partei programm oli ümbertehtud saksa sotsiaal-demokraatia eisenachi programm.
Ta nõudis:
8 tunnilist tööpäeva,
naiste ja laste töö piiramist,
maksu-, kohtu- jne –reformi,
ja lassalleallaste meeleheaks, riiklikku abi tööstusassotsatsioonidele ((kooperatiividele)).
1876.a. partei reorganiseerus „Ameerika Ühendriikide töölisparteiks“, aga 1877.a. „Sotsialistlikuks töölisteparteiks“. Ta säilitas, muide, üldises joontes oma endise programmi, s.t. pidades ideaaliks maa ja tootmisvahendite ühiskonnastamist ning tootmise ühiskondlikku organiseerimist. Tema eesotsas oli sakslane Strasser (Штрассеръ). Suur osa partei liikmetest olid endiselt sakslased, nii nagu 20 ajalehest, milliseid nad oma õitsengu ajal (1877-78) välja andsid, oli vaid kolm inglise keeles ja ülejäänud saksa keeles.
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1884.a. asutati Andaluusias tööliste hulgas salajane anarhistlik ühing Mano Negra, mis propageeris kõige verisemat terrorismi. See hävitati politsei poolt.
Anarhistide kõrval said sotsiaal-demokraadid 1872.a. mõnedes Internatsionaali sektsioonides ülekaalu, mis ühinesid ühte föderatsiooni. Varsti ta kadus ja edasi viieteistkümne aasta kestel, vaatamata mõnede töölisorganisatsioonide katsetele ühineda sotsiaal-demokraatlikusse parteisse ja vaatamata isegi 1885.a. Madriidis asutatud sotsiaal-demokraatlikule nädalalehele”El Socialista”, millise eesotsas oli andekas bublitsist Iglesias, oli sotsiaal-demokraatia Hispaanias üpris ebapopulaarne.
1888.a. kutsus ajalehe “El Socialiste” toimetus Barcelonas kokku sotsiaal-demokraatliku kongressi, millisel asutati Partido socialista obrero, töötati välja programm, milline oli sarnane saksa omale, ning põhikiri.
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Portugalis oli Internatsionaalil samuti edu ja nagu ka Hispaanias, oli peamiselt anarhistlike tendentsidega: kuid peale esimese hävimist olid anarhistid vähe märgatavad, kuigi veel 1889.a. nad andsid Oportos välja ajalehte “A Revoluzao social”.
Sotsiaal-demokraatlik partei asutati 1882.a. selle Lissaboni kongressil. Selle organisatsiooni armetust ilmestab see, et kongressil oli koos vaid 12 delegaati, kes esindasid 8 töölisringikest. Omamata võimalust iseseisvalt valimistel osalemiseks, siis partei toetab neil vabariiklasi. Partei on niivõrd nõrk, et ei tihti ei suuda oma delegaate rahvusvahelistele kongressidele saata.
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Skandinaavia maades ilmus sotsialistlik liikumine eelkõige:
Taanis, kus juba 1871.a. asutati Internatsionaali sektsioonid, mis asusid Marxi poolele. Kuid varsti, sisiki, valitsuse administratiivsete meetmete ning oma sisetülide tõttu need lagunesid.
1876.a. pani tööliskongress aluse sotsiaal-demokraatlikule parteile. Sellel kongressil olid 55 töölisorganisatsiooni esindajad, millistel oli 55 000 liiget. Tema programm on üpris sarnane saksa programmiga, kuid põllumajandusliku elanikkonna mõju kajastus selles, et see programm täiendati üpris kiiresti agraarprogrammiga, pidades silmas väiketalupoegi, rentnikke ja maaproletariaati. Märkimisväärsel määral tänu sellele, aga ka tänu puht-poliitilise tegevuse ühendamisele tööliste ametühingute liitude tegevusega, sai sotsiaal-demokraatlik partei Taanis suure tähtsuse.
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New Yorgis asutasid sakslased, saksa emigrant, revolutsionäär Sorge (Сорджа) eestvedamisel 1867.a. Internatsionaali sektsiooni. Sellele järgnesid sektsioonid teistes suuremates Põhja Ameerika linnades. Kõik need sektsioonid moodustati peaegu eranditult emigrantidest ja eriti sakslastest, kes tõid kodumaalt kaasa valmis sotsialistlikud veendumused, kas siis marksistlikud, või lassalle teooria põhjal. Liikmete arv ei ületanud 50 000 liiget.
1874.a. mõned Internatsionaali sektsioonid eraldusid selle föderatiivsest nõukogust (Ameerika Ühendriikides), milline samuti teatas nende laialisaatmisest, panid aluse „Põhja Ameerika sotsiaal-demokraatlikule parteile“. Internatsionaalist lahkulöömise (milline ise 1876.a.lõplikult hävis) põhjuseks oli vaada poliitilistest valimistest osavõtule. Internatsionaal pidas seda kasutuks, aga partei pidas hädavajalikuks. Partei programm oli ümbertehtud saksa sotsiaal-demokraatia eisenachi programm.
Ta nõudis:
8 tunnilist tööpäeva,
naiste ja laste töö piiramist,
maksu-, kohtu- jne –reformi,
ja lassalleallaste meeleheaks, riiklikku abi tööstusassotsatsioonidele ((kooperatiividele)).
1876.a. partei reorganiseerus „Ameerika Ühendriikide töölisparteiks“, aga 1877.a. „Sotsialistlikuks töölisteparteiks“. Ta säilitas, muide, üldises joontes oma endise programmi, s.t. pidades ideaaliks maa ja tootmisvahendite ühiskonnastamist ning tootmise ühiskondlikku organiseerimist. Tema eesotsas oli sakslane Strasser (Штрассеръ). Suur osa partei liikmetest olid endiselt sakslased, nii nagu 20 ajalehest, milliseid nad oma õitsengu ajal (1877-78) välja andsid, oli vaid kolm inglise keeles ja ülejäänud saksa keeles.
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22 March 2018 22:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sotsialistliku partei moodustasid 1837.- 49.aastatel tsartistid, kuid peale nende lüüasaamist ei olnud sotsialistlikke parteisid enam kui 30 aasta kestel, kui mitte-arvestada Inglismaal asutatud, kuid selles mitte eriti tugevat Internatsionaali (XVIII, 913). Seejuures, samal ajal jätkasid Inglismaal arenemist juba XVIII sajandil tekkinud trade-unionid (vt. Tööliste ühendused), milliseid organiseerisid Inglise töölisklass (peamiselt, muide, selle kõrgemad kihid). Et võidelda oma olukorra parandamise eest. Sellel ajal inglise töölised saavutasid pika rea streikide abil töötasu tõusmise ning töötingimuste parandamise üldse. Seda, miks Inglismaal puhtalt sotsialistlikud parteid nõrgalt arenenud on, ei ole üheselt välja selgitatud.
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Itaalias töölisklass ei ilmutanud kaua aega kalduvust sotsialismi poole, isegi siis, kui Itaalia, peale ühinemist hakkas üpris kiiresti oma tööstust arendama, kuid see eest XIX sajandi viimase kümnendi jooksul hakkasid selles sotsialistlikud parteid kiiresti kasvama.
Esimese tööliste assotsatsiooni asutas Mazzini (Giuseppe, 1805- 1872) juba 1848.a. 1863.a. küündis nende arv 453 – 111 000 inimeseni. 1875.a. see kasvas kuni 200 000 liiget. Nende poliitiline suunitlus ei olnud veel täiesti välja kujunenud. Neist paljud allusid Mazzini juhtimisele ja olid rohkem või vähem müstilised, pollitika vallas vabariiklikud ja sotsialismile vaenulikud. Teistes valitsesid Garibaldi, kes kõikus anarhismi ja sotsialismi vahel, ideed. Kuid üpris paljud läksid isegi Bakunini järgi, kes ei olnud kuskil mujal nii edukas, kui Itaalias. 1866. ja 1867.a. muutusid neist paljud assotsatsioonid internatsionaali sektsioonideks. Neist suurem osa assotsatsioonidest asus Marxi ja Bakunini vahelises võitluses viimase selja taha.
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1872.a. internatsionaali anarhistlikud sektsioonid ühinesid Карло Кафиеро ja sekretär Андреа Коста juhatamisel Fascio Operajo. Sellel oli Itaalias üpris lai levik, kuid hulga suuremat rolli mängisid selles üliõpilased ja üldse kodanlaste klassist intelligendid, kui tõelised töölised. Sellega on seletatav ühelt poolt selle agitatsiooni tulisus ja otsuste radikaalsus ning selle lühiajalisus teisest küljest. 1874.a. algasid nende liikmete hulgas massilised arreteerimised, milline andis sellele tugeva hoobi ning 1870.a. teisel poolel Fascio Operajo kadus lõplikult.
1880.a. algas Itaalias liikumine, mis oli sotsialistlikele lähedane tüübilt, või täpsemalt öeldes, kaks liikumist. Enam tööstuslikes Põhja provintsides tekib liikumine, millises saksa sotsiaaldemokraatia printsiibid võistlevad anarhismi printsiipidega, võttes neilt üha enam ja enam ära pinnast.
1881.a. Понте Мариано ( близъ Лукки) toimus salakongress, millisele saatsid oma esindajaid mõned Toskana ja Pieamounti sotsialistlike töölisorganisatsioonid. Seal asutati „Itaalia töölispartei“, milline 1882.a. osales parlamendivalimistel ja sai seal kaks kohta, Коста , kes hakkas anarhistist veendunud sotsiaal-demokraadiks ja Чиприани. Partei, mis kujutas endast mõnede töölisorganisatsioonide liitu, rikkus politseilisi eeskirju, mistõttu neid hakati jälitama ja need hajusid. Nende asemele asutati kahel Равенне salakongressil 1883 ja 1884.a., asutati „Itaalia sotsialistlik-revolutsiooniline partei“, 1885.a. Мантуе kongressil muudeti ta “Itaalia töölisparteiks”, millisel oli 40 000 aktiivset liiget. Ta andis välja ajakirja „Fascio operajo“, toetas innukalt streike, korraldas manifestatsioone, aga 1886.a. osales parlamendivalimistel, ning saadikuteks said uuesti Коста и Чиприани. Kohe seejärel saadeti nende organisatsioon valitsuse poolt laiali ja selle peamised tegelased mõisteti kohtu poolt mitmeteks kuudeks vangi. 1887.a. partei taastati.
1889.a., ta, koos mõnede teiste Itaalia töölisorganisatsioonidega, saatis Pariisi rahvusvahelisele sotsialistide kongressile 11 oma esindajat, kellest kolm jäeti ukse taha, kui anarhistid. Koos selle parteiga Itaalia Lõuna osas, peamiselt Sitsiilias, tekkisid rohkearvulised Fasci dei lavoratori, keda juhtisid kaks rahvalikku kõnemeest – Garibaldi Bosko ja Defelitse (Гарибалъди Боско и Дефеличе).
1892.aastaks oli nende Fasci´de liikmete arvuks 300 000 inimest. Nad olid värvatud maaelanike, aga samuti Sitsiilias rohkearvuliste väävlikaevanduste tööliste hulgast, kes ei ole oma juuri maast lahti kangutanud. Nende sotsialism oli märkimisväärsel tasemel munipsipaalne, seejärel aga agraarne, s.t. taotles kogukonnale metsade, heinamaade andmist ja rendisuhete parandamist jne. Üldiselt, ta aga ei kujutanud endast kuigi-võrd väljatöötatud süsteemi ja oli vaid määratlematute radikaalsete, müstilise värvinguga taotluste kogumiks. Citsiilias 1893.a. toimunud mässus osalesid need Fasci´d tegusalt. Sellegi poolest oli ka nende hulgas püüd õige poliitilise organisatsiooni loomise poole, milline oleks võidelnud enam sihipärasemalt. Seepärast nad saatsid Genuasse kongressile, mis oli kutsutud kokku Põhja Itaalia sotsialistlike parteide algatusel, oma delegaate. Sellel kongressil asutati Partito dei lavoratori italiani, aga III Parma kongressil 1895.a. nimetati see ümber Partito socialista´ks. Selle ajast peale , s.t. alates 1892.a. võib arvestada Itaalia sotsiaal-demokraatia ajalugu.
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Itaalias töölisklass ei ilmutanud kaua aega kalduvust sotsialismi poole, isegi siis, kui Itaalia, peale ühinemist hakkas üpris kiiresti oma tööstust arendama, kuid see eest XIX sajandi viimase kümnendi jooksul hakkasid selles sotsialistlikud parteid kiiresti kasvama.
Esimese tööliste assotsatsiooni asutas Mazzini (Giuseppe, 1805- 1872) juba 1848.a. 1863.a. küündis nende arv 453 – 111 000 inimeseni. 1875.a. see kasvas kuni 200 000 liiget. Nende poliitiline suunitlus ei olnud veel täiesti välja kujunenud. Neist paljud allusid Mazzini juhtimisele ja olid rohkem või vähem müstilised, pollitika vallas vabariiklikud ja sotsialismile vaenulikud. Teistes valitsesid Garibaldi, kes kõikus anarhismi ja sotsialismi vahel, ideed. Kuid üpris paljud läksid isegi Bakunini järgi, kes ei olnud kuskil mujal nii edukas, kui Itaalias. 1866. ja 1867.a. muutusid neist paljud assotsatsioonid internatsionaali sektsioonideks. Neist suurem osa assotsatsioonidest asus Marxi ja Bakunini vahelises võitluses viimase selja taha.
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1872.a. internatsionaali anarhistlikud sektsioonid ühinesid Карло Кафиеро ja sekretär Андреа Коста juhatamisel Fascio Operajo. Sellel oli Itaalias üpris lai levik, kuid hulga suuremat rolli mängisid selles üliõpilased ja üldse kodanlaste klassist intelligendid, kui tõelised töölised. Sellega on seletatav ühelt poolt selle agitatsiooni tulisus ja otsuste radikaalsus ning selle lühiajalisus teisest küljest. 1874.a. algasid nende liikmete hulgas massilised arreteerimised, milline andis sellele tugeva hoobi ning 1870.a. teisel poolel Fascio Operajo kadus lõplikult.
1880.a. algas Itaalias liikumine, mis oli sotsialistlikele lähedane tüübilt, või täpsemalt öeldes, kaks liikumist. Enam tööstuslikes Põhja provintsides tekib liikumine, millises saksa sotsiaaldemokraatia printsiibid võistlevad anarhismi printsiipidega, võttes neilt üha enam ja enam ära pinnast.
1881.a. Понте Мариано ( близъ Лукки) toimus salakongress, millisele saatsid oma esindajaid mõned Toskana ja Pieamounti sotsialistlike töölisorganisatsioonid. Seal asutati „Itaalia töölispartei“, milline 1882.a. osales parlamendivalimistel ja sai seal kaks kohta, Коста , kes hakkas anarhistist veendunud sotsiaal-demokraadiks ja Чиприани. Partei, mis kujutas endast mõnede töölisorganisatsioonide liitu, rikkus politseilisi eeskirju, mistõttu neid hakati jälitama ja need hajusid. Nende asemele asutati kahel Равенне salakongressil 1883 ja 1884.a., asutati „Itaalia sotsialistlik-revolutsiooniline partei“, 1885.a. Мантуе kongressil muudeti ta “Itaalia töölisparteiks”, millisel oli 40 000 aktiivset liiget. Ta andis välja ajakirja „Fascio operajo“, toetas innukalt streike, korraldas manifestatsioone, aga 1886.a. osales parlamendivalimistel, ning saadikuteks said uuesti Коста и Чиприани. Kohe seejärel saadeti nende organisatsioon valitsuse poolt laiali ja selle peamised tegelased mõisteti kohtu poolt mitmeteks kuudeks vangi. 1887.a. partei taastati.
1889.a., ta, koos mõnede teiste Itaalia töölisorganisatsioonidega, saatis Pariisi rahvusvahelisele sotsialistide kongressile 11 oma esindajat, kellest kolm jäeti ukse taha, kui anarhistid. Koos selle parteiga Itaalia Lõuna osas, peamiselt Sitsiilias, tekkisid rohkearvulised Fasci dei lavoratori, keda juhtisid kaks rahvalikku kõnemeest – Garibaldi Bosko ja Defelitse (Гарибалъди Боско и Дефеличе).
1892.aastaks oli nende Fasci´de liikmete arvuks 300 000 inimest. Nad olid värvatud maaelanike, aga samuti Sitsiilias rohkearvuliste väävlikaevanduste tööliste hulgast, kes ei ole oma juuri maast lahti kangutanud. Nende sotsialism oli märkimisväärsel tasemel munipsipaalne, seejärel aga agraarne, s.t. taotles kogukonnale metsade, heinamaade andmist ja rendisuhete parandamist jne. Üldiselt, ta aga ei kujutanud endast kuigi-võrd väljatöötatud süsteemi ja oli vaid määratlematute radikaalsete, müstilise värvinguga taotluste kogumiks. Citsiilias 1893.a. toimunud mässus osalesid need Fasci´d tegusalt. Sellegi poolest oli ka nende hulgas püüd õige poliitilise organisatsiooni loomise poole, milline oleks võidelnud enam sihipärasemalt. Seepärast nad saatsid Genuasse kongressile, mis oli kutsutud kokku Põhja Itaalia sotsialistlike parteide algatusel, oma delegaate. Sellel kongressil asutati Partito dei lavoratori italiani, aga III Parma kongressil 1895.a. nimetati see ümber Partito socialista´ks. Selle ajast peale , s.t. alates 1892.a. võib arvestada Itaalia sotsiaal-demokraatia ajalugu.
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22 March 2018 22:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Bakunin tegi oma teooria elluviimise esimese katse. Ta mängis olulist rolli Internatsionaalis, püüdis seda enda poole kallutada ja seisis oma sektsioonide tingimustetu autonoomia eest (vähemat sõltumist kesksest peanõukogust), kuid 1872.a. ta visati oma pooldajatega Internatsionaalist välja. Bakuninile ustavad Internatsionaali sektsioonid kogunesid 1872.a. rahvusvahelisele tööliste kongressile S.-Immere, kellele järgnesid hiljem veel mitmed sektsioonid. Nad moodustasid „riigivastaste sotsialistide“ liidu, mis varsti kadus. Selle liidu mõned sektsioonid, „Federation jurasseenne“ («Юрской федерации») nime all, mängisid üpris märkimisväärset rolli Prantsusmaal ja Šveitsis enne 1880-aastaid.
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Pariisi proletariaadi roll 1848.a. revolutsioonis oli üpris märkimisväärne ja see sai osaluse ajutises valitsuses kahe sotsialisti, Louis Blance ja Albere (Алъбера) näol. Kuid valitsuse kodanlikud liikmed oskasid nende tähtsuse kohe algusest peale alla suruda. Juuliülestõus murdis Pariisi, st. peaegu kogu Prantsusmaa proletariaadi jõu kauaks ajaks (üksikasju vaata- Революция, XXVI, 440). Peaegu kogu teise keiririigi ajal sotsialism peaegu ei esinenud ja eksisteeris vaid proudhonism ja seegi vähe märgatavalt. Kuid Napoleon III valitsemise lõpus hakkas uuesti silma sotsialistide ringikeste ja gruppide tekkimine, millised mängisid uuesti suurt rolli Pariisi kommuuni ülestõusus (XV, 875). Selle mahasurumine andis samasugused tulemused, nagu peale 1848.a. juuni revolutsiooni.
Kuni 1873.a. oli Prantsusmaal veel märgata Internatsionaali tegevust, kuid peale selle laialisaatmist kadus sotsialism uuesti poliitiliselt areenilt. Olid vaid erinevad tööliste assotsatsioonid, kuid need olid nõrgad, tegutsesid eraldi ja neil puudus poliitiline programm. 1876.a. kogunes Pariisis esimene Tööliskongress, mille delegaadid oli valitud erinevate tööliste assotsatsioonide poolt. 1878.a. toimus järgmine kongress Lyonis. Kuid nii esimene, kui teine ei olnud kaugeltki sotsialistlikud, nii nagu eristavaks jooneks oli täielik ühtsuse puudumine. Kongressid läksid laiali, ilma, et oleksid saavutanud praktilisi tulemusi, peale uue üldise programmi kokkuleppimise suurenenud soovi.
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Kuid vastu esines Ged, tõestades, et Dreyfusi asi on kodanluse siseasi ja millise ta peab ise lõpetama ja et proletariaadil ei ole sellesse sekkumiseks mingit põhjust. Gedi poolt olid partei liikmed ja ka välismaalt toetas teda Libkneht, kes läks sellel põhjusel tülli oma parteiga. Dreyfusi asi viis märkimisväärse sotsialistide massi ühinemiseni. Üheks selle tagajärjeks oli (juunis 1899.a.) oportunist Waldeck Rousseau ministeeriumi moodustamine koos kindral Galiffe´ga sõjaministrina, kes oli tuntud oma metsikusega kommuuni mahasurumisel. Sellesse ministeeriumi astus, pidamata parteiga nõu – Millerand, kes sai kaubandusministri koha. Selline tegu oli partei distlipliini rikkumine. Peale selle tõstatas see parteile erakordselt tähtsa küsimuse: kas sotsialistil on õigus astuda kodanlikku valitsusse? See läks kahtlematult vastuollu kõigi partei printsiipidega. Jaures ja mõned teised kiitsid Millerani sammu heaks, kuid Gerd, ja seekors suurem enamus parteist olid ilmselgelt vastu. Erinevate sotsialistlike parteide hulgas tekkis selle küsimuse lahendamiseks ettepanek sotsialistide üldise kongressi kokkukutsumiseks, mis kutsuti detsembris 1899.a. Pariisis kokku. Selle organiseerivasse komiteesse olid kutsutud 5 sotsialistlikku parteid (gedistid, sõltumatud, allemanistid, brussistid, blankistid) ja erinevad sotsialistlikud assotsatsioonid. Kõik kongressile lubatud pidid teatama oma nõusolekust järgnevalt toodud printsiibiga:
„tööliste internatsionaalne tegevus, proletariaadi poliitiline ja majanduslik organisatsioon kui klassipartei, et võidelda kätte poliitiline võim ja sotsialiseerida tootmis- ja vahetusvahendid, teiste sõnadega, kapitalistliku ühiskonna muutmine kolektiivistlikuks“. Arutelule olid esitatud 3 küsimust:
1)kas on klassivõitluse prinsiipidele tingimustes on kohane asuda ametisse kodanlikku valitsusse.
2)Sotsialistide käitumine erinevate kodanlike parteide omavahelise võitluse suhtes (Dreyfosi asi).
3)Sotsialistlike parteide ühinemine: teoreetilised ja praktilised tingimused.
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Alates 1860.a. asutati Gentis genti tööliste liit kanga- ja metallurgiatehaste töölistega. Kuid varsti see kadus puuvilla kanga tootmise tööstuse kriisiga seoses kodusõjaga Ameerikas. Kuuekümnendate aastate alguses, koos ametühingutega, hakkasid tekkima sotsialistlikud tööliste klubid. Alates 1867.a. neist klubidest paljud liitusid Internatsionaaliga ja moodustasid selle 8 sektsiooni, milliste liikmete hulk (muide, üpris fantastiline) nende statistika järgi ületas 100 000. Belgia sektsioonid lähenesid enamasti oma anarhistliku tendentsi tõttu, selle bakuninliku
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vähemusega ja olid tema poolt ka Haagi kongressil 1872.a. Peale Internatsionaali hävinemist sotsialistlik liikumine Belgias mõneks ajaks vaibus, kuid kaastunne anarhismi vastu Belgia tööliste hulgas ikkagi säilis. Mõne aasta möödudes sotsialistlik liikumine tärkas uuesti, kusjuures peamisteks agitaatoriteks olid endised Internatsionaali liikmed, Cecar de –Paepe (Цезаръ де-Папъ), Bertran (Бертанъ), Anseele (Анселъ), Bazin (Базенъ) jt., kes selle aja jooksul olid läinud anarhismilt üle marksismile. 1875.a. nad asutasid „Brüsseli töölisühingute föderatsiooni“, mille perioodiliseks häälekandjaks oli „La voix de l´ouvrier“, mis ilmus hiljem ka Gentis ja Antverpenis. 1876.a. kutsuti kokku kolme föderatsiooni kongress, et arutada laste töö küsimust. Kongress, millisel oli sellisel viisil puhtalt praktiline iseloom, andis tõuke ka poliitilise programmi põhjal sotsiaal-demokraatlikuks liikumiseks. Selle keskel olid veel, siiski, üpris märkimisväärsed erimeelsused, millised väljendusid kahe partei asutamises. Flaami sotsialistlik partei, millise programm lähenes sakslaste programmile ja Brabanti sotsialistlikuks parteiks, mis oli enam anarhistlikumate tendentsidega. 1879.a. nad mõlemad liitusid üheks „Belgia sotsialistlikuks parteiks“.
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Šveitsi jõudsid sotsialismi õpetused Saksamaalt juba 1830. aastatel, mil sellest rääkis Weitling ja tema järel Wilhelm Marr (Вилъгелъмъ Марръ). Alates 1838.a., ja eriti 1848.a. hakati Šveitsis asutama poliitilise iseloomuga töölisliite, millistest osa muutuisid 1866.a. Internatsionaali sektsioonideks. Internatsionaaliga liikumise hingeks oli samuti sakslane (Иоганъ Филиппъ Беккеръ). 1867.a. asutati Genfis keskkomitee, mis juhtis kõigi Šveitsis asuvate Internatsionaali saksa sektsioonide asju. Selle kõrvale asutati romaani föderatsioon, millises oli eriti populaarsed Bakunini ideed. Peale 1872.a. Haagi kongressi asutasid saksa-šveitsi sektsioonide jäänused 1873.a. kokku kongressi Oltenis, millisel asutati „Šveitsi töölisliit“. 1874.a. oli selles liidus 76 sektsiooni koos 5500 liikmega. Kuid selles olid märkimisväärsed erimeelsused ja seejuures ka rahvuslikul alusel, nii et 1880.a. seel liit lagunes „Šveitsi sotsiaal-demokraatlikuks parteiks“ ja „Saksa sotsiaal-demokraatlikuks parteiks Šveitsis“.
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Pariisi proletariaadi roll 1848.a. revolutsioonis oli üpris märkimisväärne ja see sai osaluse ajutises valitsuses kahe sotsialisti, Louis Blance ja Albere (Алъбера) näol. Kuid valitsuse kodanlikud liikmed oskasid nende tähtsuse kohe algusest peale alla suruda. Juuliülestõus murdis Pariisi, st. peaegu kogu Prantsusmaa proletariaadi jõu kauaks ajaks (üksikasju vaata- Революция, XXVI, 440). Peaegu kogu teise keiririigi ajal sotsialism peaegu ei esinenud ja eksisteeris vaid proudhonism ja seegi vähe märgatavalt. Kuid Napoleon III valitsemise lõpus hakkas uuesti silma sotsialistide ringikeste ja gruppide tekkimine, millised mängisid uuesti suurt rolli Pariisi kommuuni ülestõusus (XV, 875). Selle mahasurumine andis samasugused tulemused, nagu peale 1848.a. juuni revolutsiooni.
Kuni 1873.a. oli Prantsusmaal veel märgata Internatsionaali tegevust, kuid peale selle laialisaatmist kadus sotsialism uuesti poliitiliselt areenilt. Olid vaid erinevad tööliste assotsatsioonid, kuid need olid nõrgad, tegutsesid eraldi ja neil puudus poliitiline programm. 1876.a. kogunes Pariisis esimene Tööliskongress, mille delegaadid oli valitud erinevate tööliste assotsatsioonide poolt. 1878.a. toimus järgmine kongress Lyonis. Kuid nii esimene, kui teine ei olnud kaugeltki sotsialistlikud, nii nagu eristavaks jooneks oli täielik ühtsuse puudumine. Kongressid läksid laiali, ilma, et oleksid saavutanud praktilisi tulemusi, peale uue üldise programmi kokkuleppimise suurenenud soovi.
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Kuid vastu esines Ged, tõestades, et Dreyfusi asi on kodanluse siseasi ja millise ta peab ise lõpetama ja et proletariaadil ei ole sellesse sekkumiseks mingit põhjust. Gedi poolt olid partei liikmed ja ka välismaalt toetas teda Libkneht, kes läks sellel põhjusel tülli oma parteiga. Dreyfusi asi viis märkimisväärse sotsialistide massi ühinemiseni. Üheks selle tagajärjeks oli (juunis 1899.a.) oportunist Waldeck Rousseau ministeeriumi moodustamine koos kindral Galiffe´ga sõjaministrina, kes oli tuntud oma metsikusega kommuuni mahasurumisel. Sellesse ministeeriumi astus, pidamata parteiga nõu – Millerand, kes sai kaubandusministri koha. Selline tegu oli partei distlipliini rikkumine. Peale selle tõstatas see parteile erakordselt tähtsa küsimuse: kas sotsialistil on õigus astuda kodanlikku valitsusse? See läks kahtlematult vastuollu kõigi partei printsiipidega. Jaures ja mõned teised kiitsid Millerani sammu heaks, kuid Gerd, ja seekors suurem enamus parteist olid ilmselgelt vastu. Erinevate sotsialistlike parteide hulgas tekkis selle küsimuse lahendamiseks ettepanek sotsialistide üldise kongressi kokkukutsumiseks, mis kutsuti detsembris 1899.a. Pariisis kokku. Selle organiseerivasse komiteesse olid kutsutud 5 sotsialistlikku parteid (gedistid, sõltumatud, allemanistid, brussistid, blankistid) ja erinevad sotsialistlikud assotsatsioonid. Kõik kongressile lubatud pidid teatama oma nõusolekust järgnevalt toodud printsiibiga:
„tööliste internatsionaalne tegevus, proletariaadi poliitiline ja majanduslik organisatsioon kui klassipartei, et võidelda kätte poliitiline võim ja sotsialiseerida tootmis- ja vahetusvahendid, teiste sõnadega, kapitalistliku ühiskonna muutmine kolektiivistlikuks“. Arutelule olid esitatud 3 küsimust:
1)kas on klassivõitluse prinsiipidele tingimustes on kohane asuda ametisse kodanlikku valitsusse.
2)Sotsialistide käitumine erinevate kodanlike parteide omavahelise võitluse suhtes (Dreyfosi asi).
3)Sotsialistlike parteide ühinemine: teoreetilised ja praktilised tingimused.
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Alates 1860.a. asutati Gentis genti tööliste liit kanga- ja metallurgiatehaste töölistega. Kuid varsti see kadus puuvilla kanga tootmise tööstuse kriisiga seoses kodusõjaga Ameerikas. Kuuekümnendate aastate alguses, koos ametühingutega, hakkasid tekkima sotsialistlikud tööliste klubid. Alates 1867.a. neist klubidest paljud liitusid Internatsionaaliga ja moodustasid selle 8 sektsiooni, milliste liikmete hulk (muide, üpris fantastiline) nende statistika järgi ületas 100 000. Belgia sektsioonid lähenesid enamasti oma anarhistliku tendentsi tõttu, selle bakuninliku
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vähemusega ja olid tema poolt ka Haagi kongressil 1872.a. Peale Internatsionaali hävinemist sotsialistlik liikumine Belgias mõneks ajaks vaibus, kuid kaastunne anarhismi vastu Belgia tööliste hulgas ikkagi säilis. Mõne aasta möödudes sotsialistlik liikumine tärkas uuesti, kusjuures peamisteks agitaatoriteks olid endised Internatsionaali liikmed, Cecar de –Paepe (Цезаръ де-Папъ), Bertran (Бертанъ), Anseele (Анселъ), Bazin (Базенъ) jt., kes selle aja jooksul olid läinud anarhismilt üle marksismile. 1875.a. nad asutasid „Brüsseli töölisühingute föderatsiooni“, mille perioodiliseks häälekandjaks oli „La voix de l´ouvrier“, mis ilmus hiljem ka Gentis ja Antverpenis. 1876.a. kutsuti kokku kolme föderatsiooni kongress, et arutada laste töö küsimust. Kongress, millisel oli sellisel viisil puhtalt praktiline iseloom, andis tõuke ka poliitilise programmi põhjal sotsiaal-demokraatlikuks liikumiseks. Selle keskel olid veel, siiski, üpris märkimisväärsed erimeelsused, millised väljendusid kahe partei asutamises. Flaami sotsialistlik partei, millise programm lähenes sakslaste programmile ja Brabanti sotsialistlikuks parteiks, mis oli enam anarhistlikumate tendentsidega. 1879.a. nad mõlemad liitusid üheks „Belgia sotsialistlikuks parteiks“.
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Šveitsi jõudsid sotsialismi õpetused Saksamaalt juba 1830. aastatel, mil sellest rääkis Weitling ja tema järel Wilhelm Marr (Вилъгелъмъ Марръ). Alates 1838.a., ja eriti 1848.a. hakati Šveitsis asutama poliitilise iseloomuga töölisliite, millistest osa muutuisid 1866.a. Internatsionaali sektsioonideks. Internatsionaaliga liikumise hingeks oli samuti sakslane (Иоганъ Филиппъ Беккеръ). 1867.a. asutati Genfis keskkomitee, mis juhtis kõigi Šveitsis asuvate Internatsionaali saksa sektsioonide asju. Selle kõrvale asutati romaani föderatsioon, millises oli eriti populaarsed Bakunini ideed. Peale 1872.a. Haagi kongressi asutasid saksa-šveitsi sektsioonide jäänused 1873.a. kokku kongressi Oltenis, millisel asutati „Šveitsi töölisliit“. 1874.a. oli selles liidus 76 sektsiooni koos 5500 liikmega. Kuid selles olid märkimisväärsed erimeelsused ja seejuures ka rahvuslikul alusel, nii et 1880.a. seel liit lagunes „Šveitsi sotsiaal-demokraatlikuks parteiks“ ja „Saksa sotsiaal-demokraatlikuks parteiks Šveitsis“.
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Millised on sotsialistlikud parteid-1900
Ülevaade, Saksamaa, Prantsusmaa, Belgia, Holland, Šveits, Austria, Ungari, Inglismaa, Itaalia, Hispaania, Portugal, Taani, Rootsi, Norra, Bulgaaria, Serbia, Rumeenia, Ameerika, Austraalia, Jaapan. ((Lisad.))
Selle nime all mõistetakse kõiki neid poliitilisi parteisid, milliste ühiskonna korralduse ideaaliks on sotsialism
Selle tõttu peab sotsialism silmas uutel alustel olevat, mitte mingi ühe riigi, vaid kogu inimkonna organisatsiooni. Vaat miks sotsialistlikud parteid on internatsionaalsed parteid ja peamiselt kosmopoliitsed, eitades põhimõtteliselt rahvuslikku võitlust.
Nende üldiste joonte põhjal eristatakse erinevate riikide sotsialistlikke parteisid ja mis on erinevatel aegadel üksteisest märgatavalt teistsugused. Nendega toimub seesama, mis liberaalsete ja konservatiivsete parteidega, s.t. järkjärgulises ajaloolises arengus nad võtavad mõnikord üle elemente, mis on üpris kaugel sotsialismi teooria põhiprintsiipidest.
Erinevate riikide sotsialistlikud parteid arenesid erineval viisil, kuid kui kosmopoliitilise ideaaliga parteid, püüdsid nad üpris alguses rahvusvaheliselt organiseeruda, isegi varem, kui olid oma riigis mingit märkimisväärset arengut läbi teinud,
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Loomulikult võib see juhtuda vaid despootlikul omandiõigusele ja kodanlikele tootmissuhetele kallalekippumise teel.
Need meetmed hakkavad olema muidugi erinevates riikides erinevad. Enam eesrindlikemas riikides võivad olla võetud enam-vähem igalpool järgmised meetmed:
1)maaomandi ekspropireerimine ja maarendi riigi kasuks võtmine;
2)tugevalt progresiivse tulumaksu kehtestamine;
3)pärmisõiguse tühistamine;
4)kõigi emigrantide ja vastaliste vara konfiskeerimine;
5)krediidi tsentraliseerimine riigi kätte, riigipanga vahendusel, riigi kapitaliga ja monopoli õigustega;
6)kõigi transpordivahendite riigi kätte koondamine;
7)üldise plaani järgi vabrikute ja teiste tootmisvahendite suurendamine ja maatükkide parandamine;
8)sundusliku töökohustuse sisseseadmine, tööstusarmee asutamine, eriti maade harimiseks.
Seejuures rõhutatakse eriti sotsialismi internatsionaalset iseloomu ja Õiglaste Liidu endine deviis“kõik inimesed on vennad“ asendatakse üleskutsega: „Kõigi maade proletaarlased, ühinege!“
Manifest ilmus trükis saksa keeles (vähemalt 12 erinevat väljaannet ühe aasta jooksul) ja tõlgituna prantsuse-, inglise-, poola- ja taani keelde, juba 1848.a. alguses. See avaldas kõigile sotsialistliku mõttelaadiga inimestele tugeva mulje ja sellest ajast peale võib seda lugeda sotsialismi uue ajajärgu alguseks, kuigi see ei andnud põhjust sotsialistliku partei, selle sõna täpses mõttes, loomiseks.
1848.a. manifest oli prantsuse- ja saksa proletariaadi võitluse lipuks. Esialgu käis proletariaadiga käsikäes ka radikaalne kodanlus, kuid see ei kestnud kaua. Peale 1848.a. revolutsiooni mahasurumist muutus Euroopas sotsialistlike parteide loomine mõeldamatuks ja vaid 60.-te aastate alguses, Saksamaal, põhiliselt Preisimaal, Lassalle agitatsiooni mõjul, moodustus Üleüldine Töölisliit (Всеобщий Рабочий Союзъ). Koos sellega äratati ka sotsialismi internatsionaalsed püüdlused ja 1864.a. oli asutatud „Rahvusvaheline Tööliste Ühing“ (XVIII, 913), millisel olid sotsialistlikud ülesanded (see on hiljem tuntud hüüdnime – Internatsionaal – all).
1873.a. Internatsionaal lakkas olemast, äärmisel juhul Euroopas. Seejärel sotsialistlikud parteid piirdusid oma riikide territorialsete piiridega. Siiski, nende ühte organisatsiooni ühinemise püüd ei kadunud olemast. Tehti erinevaid ja vähem edukaid rahvusvaheliste sotsialistide kongresside pidamise katseid. 14 juulil 1889.a. Bastille vallutamise 100 a. tähistamiseks, Pariisis, peale kestvaid eelläbirääkimisi saksa ja teiste sotsialistlike parteidega, kogunes „Rahvusvaheline sotsialistlik tööliste kongress“, millisel oli 20 riiki esindasid 467 liiget. Sel samal päeval, siiski, ja samuti Pariisis, kogunes teine kongress, mis nimetas end samasuguse nimega ja millisele olid samuti
kutsutud välismaalsed; kuid neid ilmus kohale täiesti tühine arv (olulisematest parteidest oli esindatud vaid Inglise Sotsiaal-Demokraatlik Föderatsioon). See kongess oli kutsutud kokku prantsuse „posibilistide“ partei initsiatiivil. Kahe kongressi vahel peeti mõni aeg ühinemise läbirääkimisi, kuid need ei andnud tulemusi ja possibilistide kongress läks varsti laiali.
Rahvusvaheline Tööliste kongress oli sotsalistlike parteide samasuguste perioodiliste kongresside alguseks. Muuseas, kongress võttis vastu jägrmised otsused:
1) kutsuda aegajalt kokku samasuguseid rahvusvahelisi, erinevate sotsialistlike organisatsioonide delegaatidest sotsialistide kongresse.
2) Tähistada igal aastal 1. mail demonstratsiooniga 8 tunnise tööpeva kasuks.
1890.a. toimus ka tegelikkuses selline demonstratsioon Saksamaal, Austrias, Prantsusmaal, Šveitsis, Belgias, Hollandis ja väiksemas mahus Inglismaal ja Itaalias, osalt ka teistes riikides. Suured tööliste hulgad sel päeval ei töötanud ja korraldasid selle asemel linnades lippe kandes rongkäike ja pidasid koosolekuid. Esimese mai tähistamine kordus ka järgmisel, 1891.aastal. Kuid samal aastal II – Rahvusvahelisel sotsialistide kongressil Brüsselis saksa ja inglise delegaadid, pidades silmas kokkupõrkeid politseiga, mis olid tekkinud mõnedes riikides selle päeva pühitsemisega, tegid ettepaneklu viia 1. mai tähistamine üle Esimesele mai pühapäevale.
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http://koit.pri.ee/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Millised-on-sotsialistlikud-parteid-1900.doc (50+ lk'd)
Millised on sotsialistlikud parteid-1900
Ülevaade, Saksamaa, Prantsusmaa, Belgia, Holland, Šveits, Austria, Ungari, Inglismaa, Itaalia, Hispaania, Portugal, Taani, Rootsi, Norra, Bulgaaria, Serbia, Rumeenia, Ameerika, Austraalia, Jaapan. ((Lisad.))
Selle nime all mõistetakse kõiki neid poliitilisi parteisid, milliste ühiskonna korralduse ideaaliks on sotsialism
Selle tõttu peab sotsialism silmas uutel alustel olevat, mitte mingi ühe riigi, vaid kogu inimkonna organisatsiooni. Vaat miks sotsialistlikud parteid on internatsionaalsed parteid ja peamiselt kosmopoliitsed, eitades põhimõtteliselt rahvuslikku võitlust.
Nende üldiste joonte põhjal eristatakse erinevate riikide sotsialistlikke parteisid ja mis on erinevatel aegadel üksteisest märgatavalt teistsugused. Nendega toimub seesama, mis liberaalsete ja konservatiivsete parteidega, s.t. järkjärgulises ajaloolises arengus nad võtavad mõnikord üle elemente, mis on üpris kaugel sotsialismi teooria põhiprintsiipidest.
Erinevate riikide sotsialistlikud parteid arenesid erineval viisil, kuid kui kosmopoliitilise ideaaliga parteid, püüdsid nad üpris alguses rahvusvaheliselt organiseeruda, isegi varem, kui olid oma riigis mingit märkimisväärset arengut läbi teinud,
--
Loomulikult võib see juhtuda vaid despootlikul omandiõigusele ja kodanlikele tootmissuhetele kallalekippumise teel.
Need meetmed hakkavad olema muidugi erinevates riikides erinevad. Enam eesrindlikemas riikides võivad olla võetud enam-vähem igalpool järgmised meetmed:
1)maaomandi ekspropireerimine ja maarendi riigi kasuks võtmine;
2)tugevalt progresiivse tulumaksu kehtestamine;
3)pärmisõiguse tühistamine;
4)kõigi emigrantide ja vastaliste vara konfiskeerimine;
5)krediidi tsentraliseerimine riigi kätte, riigipanga vahendusel, riigi kapitaliga ja monopoli õigustega;
6)kõigi transpordivahendite riigi kätte koondamine;
7)üldise plaani järgi vabrikute ja teiste tootmisvahendite suurendamine ja maatükkide parandamine;
8)sundusliku töökohustuse sisseseadmine, tööstusarmee asutamine, eriti maade harimiseks.
Seejuures rõhutatakse eriti sotsialismi internatsionaalset iseloomu ja Õiglaste Liidu endine deviis“kõik inimesed on vennad“ asendatakse üleskutsega: „Kõigi maade proletaarlased, ühinege!“
Manifest ilmus trükis saksa keeles (vähemalt 12 erinevat väljaannet ühe aasta jooksul) ja tõlgituna prantsuse-, inglise-, poola- ja taani keelde, juba 1848.a. alguses. See avaldas kõigile sotsialistliku mõttelaadiga inimestele tugeva mulje ja sellest ajast peale võib seda lugeda sotsialismi uue ajajärgu alguseks, kuigi see ei andnud põhjust sotsialistliku partei, selle sõna täpses mõttes, loomiseks.
1848.a. manifest oli prantsuse- ja saksa proletariaadi võitluse lipuks. Esialgu käis proletariaadiga käsikäes ka radikaalne kodanlus, kuid see ei kestnud kaua. Peale 1848.a. revolutsiooni mahasurumist muutus Euroopas sotsialistlike parteide loomine mõeldamatuks ja vaid 60.-te aastate alguses, Saksamaal, põhiliselt Preisimaal, Lassalle agitatsiooni mõjul, moodustus Üleüldine Töölisliit (Всеобщий Рабочий Союзъ). Koos sellega äratati ka sotsialismi internatsionaalsed püüdlused ja 1864.a. oli asutatud „Rahvusvaheline Tööliste Ühing“ (XVIII, 913), millisel olid sotsialistlikud ülesanded (see on hiljem tuntud hüüdnime – Internatsionaal – all).
1873.a. Internatsionaal lakkas olemast, äärmisel juhul Euroopas. Seejärel sotsialistlikud parteid piirdusid oma riikide territorialsete piiridega. Siiski, nende ühte organisatsiooni ühinemise püüd ei kadunud olemast. Tehti erinevaid ja vähem edukaid rahvusvaheliste sotsialistide kongresside pidamise katseid. 14 juulil 1889.a. Bastille vallutamise 100 a. tähistamiseks, Pariisis, peale kestvaid eelläbirääkimisi saksa ja teiste sotsialistlike parteidega, kogunes „Rahvusvaheline sotsialistlik tööliste kongress“, millisel oli 20 riiki esindasid 467 liiget. Sel samal päeval, siiski, ja samuti Pariisis, kogunes teine kongress, mis nimetas end samasuguse nimega ja millisele olid samuti
kutsutud välismaalsed; kuid neid ilmus kohale täiesti tühine arv (olulisematest parteidest oli esindatud vaid Inglise Sotsiaal-Demokraatlik Föderatsioon). See kongess oli kutsutud kokku prantsuse „posibilistide“ partei initsiatiivil. Kahe kongressi vahel peeti mõni aeg ühinemise läbirääkimisi, kuid need ei andnud tulemusi ja possibilistide kongress läks varsti laiali.
Rahvusvaheline Tööliste kongress oli sotsalistlike parteide samasuguste perioodiliste kongresside alguseks. Muuseas, kongress võttis vastu jägrmised otsused:
1) kutsuda aegajalt kokku samasuguseid rahvusvahelisi, erinevate sotsialistlike organisatsioonide delegaatidest sotsialistide kongresse.
2) Tähistada igal aastal 1. mail demonstratsiooniga 8 tunnise tööpeva kasuks.
1890.a. toimus ka tegelikkuses selline demonstratsioon Saksamaal, Austrias, Prantsusmaal, Šveitsis, Belgias, Hollandis ja väiksemas mahus Inglismaal ja Itaalias, osalt ka teistes riikides. Suured tööliste hulgad sel päeval ei töötanud ja korraldasid selle asemel linnades lippe kandes rongkäike ja pidasid koosolekuid. Esimese mai tähistamine kordus ka järgmisel, 1891.aastal. Kuid samal aastal II – Rahvusvahelisel sotsialistide kongressil Brüsselis saksa ja inglise delegaadid, pidades silmas kokkupõrkeid politseiga, mis olid tekkinud mõnedes riikides selle päeva pühitsemisega, tegid ettepaneklu viia 1. mai tähistamine üle Esimesele mai pühapäevale.
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22 March 2018 22:24
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http://opetaja.edu.ee/euroopa_ja_baltimaad/html/H3/p_index.html
Euroopa ja Baltimaad 20. sajandil
Internatsionalism
nternatsionalism - rahvusvahelise töölisklassi maailmavaade ja ideoloogia. Avaldub tööliste rahvusvahelise solidaarsusena võitluses sotsiaalse ja rahvusliku vabastamise eest, sotsialismi ülesehitamise eest, rahvusvahelise kommunistliku liikumise ühtsuse eest maailmas. Internatsionalistid järgivad loosungit "Kõigi maade proletaarlased, ühinege!"
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Et olla sotsiaaldemokraat-internatsionalist, ei tule mõelda ainult oma rahvusele, vaid tuleb temast kõrgemale seada kõigi huvid, nende üldine vabadus ja üheõiguslus. /---/ Kuid igal juhul peab ta võitlema väiklaselt-rahvusliku kitsarinnalisuse, endasse sulgumise ja eraldumise vastu, terviku ja üldise arvessevõtmise eest, selle eest, et osa huvid allutataks üldise huvidele.
V. I. Lenin. Kokkuvõte enesemääramise diskussioonist.
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Internatsionaalne - rahvusvaheline, rahvuste omavahelist suhtlemist käsitlev; näiteks rahvusvaheline õigus. Internatsionaal oli 19. sajandi lõpul, 20. sajandi alguses sotsialistide ja kommunistide organiseeritud erinevatest rahvustest tööliste ühendus.
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Proletariaat aga ei hakka kaitsma iga rahvuse rahvuslikku arenemist, vaid vastupidi, hoiatab rahvahulki niisuguste illusioonide eest, /---/ tervitab igasugust rahvuste assimilatsiooni, välja arvatud see, mis on vägivaldne või tugineb eesõigustele. /---/ ta toetab kõike, mis aitab kaasa rahvuslike erinevuste kadumisele, rahvuslike vaheseinte kokkuvarisemisele, kõike, mis muudab rahvustevahelised sidemed tihedamaks, kõike, mis viib rahvuste ühtesulamisele.
V. I. Lenin. Kriitilisi märkmeid rahvusküsimusest.
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Internatsionaliseerimine - protsess tänapäeva inimkonna arengus, mille puhul on esmased majanduslikud ja sotsiaalsed tegurid.
K. Skujenieks, A. Grigorjevs. Vai viegli but latvietim?
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Kosmopolitism - idee kõiki inimesi ühendava maailmaühiskonna loomisest, kus poleks rahvuslik-etnilisi erinevusi, vaid kõigist rahvastest ja rassidest inimeste sõprus ja koostöö. /---/ Kosmopoliidid arvavad, et rahvuslikud aated ja rahvusriigid on vananenud, et peab orienteeruma multinatsionaalsele ühiskonnale, riikide piirid aga peavad järk-järgult kaduma.
Mazakumtautibu vesture Latvija
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On kaks erinevat tõlgendust selle kohta, mis põhjustas NSV Liidu ja teiste kommunistlike režiimide lagunemise. Ühe tõlgenduse esitajad arvavad, et kõige suurem teene on Gorbatšovil ja teistel kompartei juhtidel, kes viisid sisse reformid, seevastu teine tõlgendus rõhutab, et määrav osa oli ennenägematul revolutsioonil “altpoolt”. Argument rahva revolutsioonist on veenvam, eriti Läti ja naabermaade sündmustele mõeldes. Iga kord, kui tekkis mõni algatus altpoolt, oli võimuorganite esimene reaktsioon see maha suruda, seejärel, nähes, et nii pole enam midagi võimalik saavutada, proovis kompartei asuda rahvaliikumise etteotsa.
Seda võis täheldada nii siis, kui tekkis Rahvarinne, kui ka varem, kui üksikisikud ja rühmitused, nagu Helsingi 86 ja Keskkonnakaitseklubi, hakkasid koosolekuid ja demonstratsioone korraldama. Ärkamisaja alguses, kui inimesed rahva seast organiseerisid rongkäike ja mälestushetki sümboolselt tähtsatel kuupäevadel nagu 14. juuni, 23. august, 18. november ja 25. märts, puutusid nad kokku ähvarduste ja tagakiusamisega. Kuid see, et rahvas ei lubanud ennast enam ära hirmutada, näitas nende revolutsioonilise teadvuse muutumist. Kust nad võtsid selle julguse? Võiks loetleda mitu asjaolu, kuid määrav oli arusaamine “kui mitte nüüd, siis millal veel” ja “kui mitte meie, siis kes”. Läti, Eesti ja Leedu rahvas võib olla uhke selle üle, et ajavahemikus 1987–1991 kõlas nende nimi üle terve maailma.
Politoloogiaprofessor Rasma Kärkliņa. Vabadust, vabadust! Sestdiena. 1999
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Euroopa ja Baltimaad 20. sajandil
Internatsionalism
nternatsionalism - rahvusvahelise töölisklassi maailmavaade ja ideoloogia. Avaldub tööliste rahvusvahelise solidaarsusena võitluses sotsiaalse ja rahvusliku vabastamise eest, sotsialismi ülesehitamise eest, rahvusvahelise kommunistliku liikumise ühtsuse eest maailmas. Internatsionalistid järgivad loosungit "Kõigi maade proletaarlased, ühinege!"
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Et olla sotsiaaldemokraat-internatsionalist, ei tule mõelda ainult oma rahvusele, vaid tuleb temast kõrgemale seada kõigi huvid, nende üldine vabadus ja üheõiguslus. /---/ Kuid igal juhul peab ta võitlema väiklaselt-rahvusliku kitsarinnalisuse, endasse sulgumise ja eraldumise vastu, terviku ja üldise arvessevõtmise eest, selle eest, et osa huvid allutataks üldise huvidele.
V. I. Lenin. Kokkuvõte enesemääramise diskussioonist.
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Internatsionaalne - rahvusvaheline, rahvuste omavahelist suhtlemist käsitlev; näiteks rahvusvaheline õigus. Internatsionaal oli 19. sajandi lõpul, 20. sajandi alguses sotsialistide ja kommunistide organiseeritud erinevatest rahvustest tööliste ühendus.
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Proletariaat aga ei hakka kaitsma iga rahvuse rahvuslikku arenemist, vaid vastupidi, hoiatab rahvahulki niisuguste illusioonide eest, /---/ tervitab igasugust rahvuste assimilatsiooni, välja arvatud see, mis on vägivaldne või tugineb eesõigustele. /---/ ta toetab kõike, mis aitab kaasa rahvuslike erinevuste kadumisele, rahvuslike vaheseinte kokkuvarisemisele, kõike, mis muudab rahvustevahelised sidemed tihedamaks, kõike, mis viib rahvuste ühtesulamisele.
V. I. Lenin. Kriitilisi märkmeid rahvusküsimusest.
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Internatsionaliseerimine - protsess tänapäeva inimkonna arengus, mille puhul on esmased majanduslikud ja sotsiaalsed tegurid.
K. Skujenieks, A. Grigorjevs. Vai viegli but latvietim?
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Kosmopolitism - idee kõiki inimesi ühendava maailmaühiskonna loomisest, kus poleks rahvuslik-etnilisi erinevusi, vaid kõigist rahvastest ja rassidest inimeste sõprus ja koostöö. /---/ Kosmopoliidid arvavad, et rahvuslikud aated ja rahvusriigid on vananenud, et peab orienteeruma multinatsionaalsele ühiskonnale, riikide piirid aga peavad järk-järgult kaduma.
Mazakumtautibu vesture Latvija
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On kaks erinevat tõlgendust selle kohta, mis põhjustas NSV Liidu ja teiste kommunistlike režiimide lagunemise. Ühe tõlgenduse esitajad arvavad, et kõige suurem teene on Gorbatšovil ja teistel kompartei juhtidel, kes viisid sisse reformid, seevastu teine tõlgendus rõhutab, et määrav osa oli ennenägematul revolutsioonil “altpoolt”. Argument rahva revolutsioonist on veenvam, eriti Läti ja naabermaade sündmustele mõeldes. Iga kord, kui tekkis mõni algatus altpoolt, oli võimuorganite esimene reaktsioon see maha suruda, seejärel, nähes, et nii pole enam midagi võimalik saavutada, proovis kompartei asuda rahvaliikumise etteotsa.
Seda võis täheldada nii siis, kui tekkis Rahvarinne, kui ka varem, kui üksikisikud ja rühmitused, nagu Helsingi 86 ja Keskkonnakaitseklubi, hakkasid koosolekuid ja demonstratsioone korraldama. Ärkamisaja alguses, kui inimesed rahva seast organiseerisid rongkäike ja mälestushetki sümboolselt tähtsatel kuupäevadel nagu 14. juuni, 23. august, 18. november ja 25. märts, puutusid nad kokku ähvarduste ja tagakiusamisega. Kuid see, et rahvas ei lubanud ennast enam ära hirmutada, näitas nende revolutsioonilise teadvuse muutumist. Kust nad võtsid selle julguse? Võiks loetleda mitu asjaolu, kuid määrav oli arusaamine “kui mitte nüüd, siis millal veel” ja “kui mitte meie, siis kes”. Läti, Eesti ja Leedu rahvas võib olla uhke selle üle, et ajavahemikus 1987–1991 kõlas nende nimi üle terve maailma.
Politoloogiaprofessor Rasma Kärkliņa. Vabadust, vabadust! Sestdiena. 1999
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http://opetaja.edu.ee/euroopa_ja_baltimaad/html/H3/p_index.html
22 March 2018 22:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//järg//
Pildil kujutatutest oli vaid Rei Eesti sotsiaaldemokraat. VSDTP liige Tuglas pildistamisele ei ilmunud. Sotsid astusid siin ohtliku sammu, kuna seos ühendustega, mille nimes figureerib sõna sotsiaal-, ei pruugi alati olla meeldiv ega isegi vasakpoolne. Näiteks Baieri Kristlik-Sotsiaalne Liit on praegu Saksamaal üks parempoolsemaid erakondi, parempoolsem kui nende alaline partner Kristlik-Demokraatlik Liit, Portugali Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Erakond on samuti paremtsentristlik. Ent ka vasakpoolses spektrumis võib olla soovimatuid assotsiatsioone. Blogija ckrabat kirjutab oma põhjalikus analüüsis: "Kui nüüd tuua ajaloolisi paralleele, siis kõiksuguseid sotsialistliku töö kangelasi pakub ajalugu hulgi – Adolf Hitler natsionaalsotsialist aastast 1919 või siis Eestimaa mees Alfred Rosenberg natsionaalsotsialist aastast 1918." Üldiselt mulle ei meeldi, kui Hitleri nime liiga kergelt kasutatakse, kuid antud juhul sotsid ise provotseerivad seda. Pealegi võib meelde tuletada, et nii mõnigi Natsionaalsotsialistliku Saksa Töölispartei antikapitalistlik programmiline seisukoht oli väga lähedane nende marksistlike rivaalide omadele (kui jätta välja antisemitism, siis 25 punkti programm, nagu Kommunistliku partei manifestki, näeb põhiliste majandusmeetmetena natsionaliseerimist ja kõrgeid makse). Picture Ka Moldovas käib valimiskampaania. Üldiselt on oma kuulsusrikka minevikuga uhkustamine pigem omane konservatiividele kui progressistidele. Sotside ajalookäsitlus aga meenutab pigem NLKP ajalugu. Ühelt poolt esitatakse pooldajatena neid, kes seda sugugi polnud, teisalt aga kustutatakse põlu alla sattunud tegelased maha. Siinkohal võikski meelde tuletada mõningaid sotsiaaldemokraatliku liikumise figuure (tuletan veel kord meelde, et nii menševikud kui bolševikud olid mõlemad sotsiaaldemokraadid -- ühe erakonna kaks tiiba): Viktor Kingissepp, sotsiaaldemokraat 1904. aastast (mitte sünniaastast), Hans Pöögelmann, sotsiaaldemokraat 1905. aastast, Jaan Anvelt, sotsiaaldemokraat 1907. aastast, Johannes Lauristin, sotsiaaldemokraat 1917. aastast, Ivan Rabtšinski, sotsiaaldemokraat 1917. aastast, Hendrik Allik, sotsiaaldemokraat 1917. aastast. Palju toredaid inimesi.
Picture Kõige jämedam vale on aga nii piinlik, et sellest on isegi paha kirjutada. Millegipärast eeldavad sotsid, et inimene võib olla sotsiaaldemokraat sündimisest saadik. Tammsaare, Vilde, Rei ja teised on märgitud sotsiaaldemokraadiks alates oma sünniaastast. Omal ajal olin sügavalt nördinud, kui üks juhtpoliitik (nüüdseks juba endine) tõi masskasutusse väljendi "geneetilised kommunistid". Parempoolsena arvan ma, et iga inimene ise (aga mitte nt tema esivanemad) vastutab oma maailmavaate eest. Aga kui seltsimehed ise nii väga tahavad?
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Skandaalsed plakatid sotsiaaldemokraadi Tammsaarega tegid mulle palju nalja ja ma ei tundnud end nendest puudutatuna. Rumalaid vigu võib teha igaüks ja teisedki ei ole seda võimalust kasutamata jätnud.
Olekski ju võinud teatada, et tehti viga, reklaamitegijad eksisid jne. Selgus aga, et asi on naljast kaugel. SDE kodulehel näeme härra Juske vastavateemalisi videoloenguid ning erakonna erinevad juhtfiguurid, nagu Indrek Saar, Maimu Berg jt õigustavad plakatite valesid. Veelgi enam, nüüd teame, et tegu on läbimõeldud reklaamikampaania avalöögiga: alguses esinevad kõik need Tammsaared ja Tuglased nö soojendusbändi rollis, valmistades lava ette tõelistele tegijatele.
Picture PictureBakunin kõneleb tööliste kongressil Baselis 1869. aastal. Miks ma sel teemal siiski otsustasin sõna võtta, on see, et üllatavalt paljud noored sattusidki ettevalmistatud lõksu. Põhjus on lihtne: ei tunta ajalugu, ei tunta ka tänapäeva poliitilist maastikku. Kuid ajalugu tunnevad kindlasti sotside ideoloogid, kellest nii mõnelgi on veel nõukaaegne haridus, mõnel koguni teaduskraad nn ühiskonnateadustes. Otsustavaks sai mulle asjaolu, et ka eestikeelses Vikipeedias on informatsioon sotsiaaldemokraatia kohta esitatud kallutatud kujul. Palju täpsem informatsioon on nt inglise wikis, kuid sellele, kes on tudeerinud algallikaid, on teada veel palju värvikaid detaile.
Tammsaare postuumne sotsiks värbamine ei ole selles loos ei kõige olulisem ega kõige jõhkram. Valed moodustavad siin kolm kihistust, neist üks on jäme, teine peenem ning kolmas on õige peenike. Sellest viimasest alustamegi. Kuid kõigepealt üks isiklik märkus.
Üldiselt pean ma sotsialismi inimvastaseks ideoloogiaks (miks, sellest võiks ükskord eraldi rääkida), kuid kohalikesse sotsidesse olen suhtunud pigem positiivselt, kuna esiteks on suur osa neist head ja intelligentsed inimesed, teiseks on nende punasus, kui sellele läheneda maailmavaateliselt seisukohalt, üsna lahja ja kolmandaks pole nad poliitikas sugugi fanaatikud, vaid mõnusad oportunistid, kes võimu nimel on valmis liituma ükskõik kellega, kas või selliste ilmavaateliste vastanditega nagu IRL, mida privaatsetes vestlustes nii mõnigi sots on nimetanud fašistlikuks erakonnaks.
Oma eneseesitlustes püüavad eesti sotsid igati distantseeruda marksismist ja revolutsioonilisest ideoloogiast. Esitatud ajalugu näeb välja umbes nii, et Eesti sotsiaaldemokraatial on kohalikud juured, see sündis kuidagi 1905. aasta revolutsiooni keerises, erakonnastuti 1907 ning aeti pidevalt rahvuslikku joont. Märkimisväärse sotside eelkäijana on Vikipeedias nimetatud Saksa sotsiaaldemokraati Eduard Bernsteini, kes "algatas sotsiaaldemokraatia eraldumise sotsialismist". Praeguseks peaks see protsess lõpule viidud ning sotsidel pole sotsialismiga enam midagi ühist.
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Pildil kujutatutest oli vaid Rei Eesti sotsiaaldemokraat. VSDTP liige Tuglas pildistamisele ei ilmunud. Sotsid astusid siin ohtliku sammu, kuna seos ühendustega, mille nimes figureerib sõna sotsiaal-, ei pruugi alati olla meeldiv ega isegi vasakpoolne. Näiteks Baieri Kristlik-Sotsiaalne Liit on praegu Saksamaal üks parempoolsemaid erakondi, parempoolsem kui nende alaline partner Kristlik-Demokraatlik Liit, Portugali Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Erakond on samuti paremtsentristlik. Ent ka vasakpoolses spektrumis võib olla soovimatuid assotsiatsioone. Blogija ckrabat kirjutab oma põhjalikus analüüsis: "Kui nüüd tuua ajaloolisi paralleele, siis kõiksuguseid sotsialistliku töö kangelasi pakub ajalugu hulgi – Adolf Hitler natsionaalsotsialist aastast 1919 või siis Eestimaa mees Alfred Rosenberg natsionaalsotsialist aastast 1918." Üldiselt mulle ei meeldi, kui Hitleri nime liiga kergelt kasutatakse, kuid antud juhul sotsid ise provotseerivad seda. Pealegi võib meelde tuletada, et nii mõnigi Natsionaalsotsialistliku Saksa Töölispartei antikapitalistlik programmiline seisukoht oli väga lähedane nende marksistlike rivaalide omadele (kui jätta välja antisemitism, siis 25 punkti programm, nagu Kommunistliku partei manifestki, näeb põhiliste majandusmeetmetena natsionaliseerimist ja kõrgeid makse). Picture Ka Moldovas käib valimiskampaania. Üldiselt on oma kuulsusrikka minevikuga uhkustamine pigem omane konservatiividele kui progressistidele. Sotside ajalookäsitlus aga meenutab pigem NLKP ajalugu. Ühelt poolt esitatakse pooldajatena neid, kes seda sugugi polnud, teisalt aga kustutatakse põlu alla sattunud tegelased maha. Siinkohal võikski meelde tuletada mõningaid sotsiaaldemokraatliku liikumise figuure (tuletan veel kord meelde, et nii menševikud kui bolševikud olid mõlemad sotsiaaldemokraadid -- ühe erakonna kaks tiiba): Viktor Kingissepp, sotsiaaldemokraat 1904. aastast (mitte sünniaastast), Hans Pöögelmann, sotsiaaldemokraat 1905. aastast, Jaan Anvelt, sotsiaaldemokraat 1907. aastast, Johannes Lauristin, sotsiaaldemokraat 1917. aastast, Ivan Rabtšinski, sotsiaaldemokraat 1917. aastast, Hendrik Allik, sotsiaaldemokraat 1917. aastast. Palju toredaid inimesi.
Picture Kõige jämedam vale on aga nii piinlik, et sellest on isegi paha kirjutada. Millegipärast eeldavad sotsid, et inimene võib olla sotsiaaldemokraat sündimisest saadik. Tammsaare, Vilde, Rei ja teised on märgitud sotsiaaldemokraadiks alates oma sünniaastast. Omal ajal olin sügavalt nördinud, kui üks juhtpoliitik (nüüdseks juba endine) tõi masskasutusse väljendi "geneetilised kommunistid". Parempoolsena arvan ma, et iga inimene ise (aga mitte nt tema esivanemad) vastutab oma maailmavaate eest. Aga kui seltsimehed ise nii väga tahavad?
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Skandaalsed plakatid sotsiaaldemokraadi Tammsaarega tegid mulle palju nalja ja ma ei tundnud end nendest puudutatuna. Rumalaid vigu võib teha igaüks ja teisedki ei ole seda võimalust kasutamata jätnud.
Olekski ju võinud teatada, et tehti viga, reklaamitegijad eksisid jne. Selgus aga, et asi on naljast kaugel. SDE kodulehel näeme härra Juske vastavateemalisi videoloenguid ning erakonna erinevad juhtfiguurid, nagu Indrek Saar, Maimu Berg jt õigustavad plakatite valesid. Veelgi enam, nüüd teame, et tegu on läbimõeldud reklaamikampaania avalöögiga: alguses esinevad kõik need Tammsaared ja Tuglased nö soojendusbändi rollis, valmistades lava ette tõelistele tegijatele.
Picture PictureBakunin kõneleb tööliste kongressil Baselis 1869. aastal. Miks ma sel teemal siiski otsustasin sõna võtta, on see, et üllatavalt paljud noored sattusidki ettevalmistatud lõksu. Põhjus on lihtne: ei tunta ajalugu, ei tunta ka tänapäeva poliitilist maastikku. Kuid ajalugu tunnevad kindlasti sotside ideoloogid, kellest nii mõnelgi on veel nõukaaegne haridus, mõnel koguni teaduskraad nn ühiskonnateadustes. Otsustavaks sai mulle asjaolu, et ka eestikeelses Vikipeedias on informatsioon sotsiaaldemokraatia kohta esitatud kallutatud kujul. Palju täpsem informatsioon on nt inglise wikis, kuid sellele, kes on tudeerinud algallikaid, on teada veel palju värvikaid detaile.
Tammsaare postuumne sotsiks värbamine ei ole selles loos ei kõige olulisem ega kõige jõhkram. Valed moodustavad siin kolm kihistust, neist üks on jäme, teine peenem ning kolmas on õige peenike. Sellest viimasest alustamegi. Kuid kõigepealt üks isiklik märkus.
Üldiselt pean ma sotsialismi inimvastaseks ideoloogiaks (miks, sellest võiks ükskord eraldi rääkida), kuid kohalikesse sotsidesse olen suhtunud pigem positiivselt, kuna esiteks on suur osa neist head ja intelligentsed inimesed, teiseks on nende punasus, kui sellele läheneda maailmavaateliselt seisukohalt, üsna lahja ja kolmandaks pole nad poliitikas sugugi fanaatikud, vaid mõnusad oportunistid, kes võimu nimel on valmis liituma ükskõik kellega, kas või selliste ilmavaateliste vastanditega nagu IRL, mida privaatsetes vestlustes nii mõnigi sots on nimetanud fašistlikuks erakonnaks.
Oma eneseesitlustes püüavad eesti sotsid igati distantseeruda marksismist ja revolutsioonilisest ideoloogiast. Esitatud ajalugu näeb välja umbes nii, et Eesti sotsiaaldemokraatial on kohalikud juured, see sündis kuidagi 1905. aasta revolutsiooni keerises, erakonnastuti 1907 ning aeti pidevalt rahvuslikku joont. Märkimisväärse sotside eelkäijana on Vikipeedias nimetatud Saksa sotsiaaldemokraati Eduard Bernsteini, kes "algatas sotsiaaldemokraatia eraldumise sotsialismist". Praeguseks peaks see protsess lõpule viidud ning sotsidel pole sotsialismiga enam midagi ühist.
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22 March 2018 22:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/7445944-s-nnij-rgsed-sotsid
http://www.lotman.ee/blogi/sunnijargsed-sotsid
Mihhail Lotman' : Sünnijärgsed sotsid
Siin peitub üsna peenike vale. Tegelikult sotsiaaldemokraatia oli ja on marksistlik konstruktsioon. Sotsiaaldemokraadid, k.a Eesti omad, kuuluvad Sotsialistlikku Internatsionaali, mis on II Internatsionaali (mille mitteametlik nimi oli samuti Sotsialistlik Internatsionaal) järglane. Problemaatiline võib olla vaid see, kas tegu on otsese järglusega või oli vahelüliks nn Berni Internatsionaal. II Internatsionaal aga jätkas sealt, kus I Internatsionaal lõpetas. Seega võib jälgida järjepidevat joont Marxi loodud organisatsioonist kuni tänapäevaste sotsideni välja. Märkimisväärne on arengu loogika. Sotsiaaldemokraatia ajaloos näeme pidevalt kahe tiiva -- radikaalse ja mõõduka -- omavahelist võitlust, kusjuures eranditult on radikaalid need, kes löövad lahku ning moodustavad oma organisatsiooni. Mõõdukaid pole aga radikaalidega samasse organisatsiooni kuulumine häirinud. I Internatsionaal loodi 1864 Marxi egiidi all, 1868. aastal liitus sellega Mihhail Bakunin. Viimane oli anarhistist radikaalne revolutsionäär, kes põlastas Marxi väikekodanlikku mõõdukust ning muutus karismaatilise liidrina sotsialistlikus liikumises väga mõjukaks. 1872. aastaks oli rohkem kui kaks kolmandikku Internatsionaali liikmetest Bakunini pooldajad. Ülejäänute hulgast olid suurem osa Marxi järgijad, kuid oli ka väike osa Proudhoni pooldajaid. Radikaalid lahkusid ja sellega oli I Internatsionaal lõppenud.
Analoogiline lugu juhtus II Internatsionaaliga, kust radikaalsed sotsiaaldemokraadid Venemaal võidutsenud bolševikega eesotsas välja astusid ning moodustasid 1919. aastal III Internatsionaali (mitteametliku nimega Komintern). Seega oleks ebakorrektne rääkida mingisugusest rahvusvahelisest sotsiaaldemokraatiast, mis enne 1919. aastat vastandus marksismile. Segadust loovad aga mitte ainult Eesti sotsid. Sotsinterni dokumentidest võib lugeda ühelt poolt seda, et nad on 1864. aastal (st Marxi) rajatud Internatsionaali järeltulijad, teisalt aga tähistati 1989. aastal Sotsinterni saja aasta juubelit, st oma asutamist arvestavad nad II Internatsionaali rajamisest. 1951. aastal võttis Sotsinterni I Kongress vastu deklaratsiooni, milles kapitalismi süüdistati kõikides ühiskonna pahedes, k.a fašismis ja natsismis (tegelikult olid mõlemad sotsialistlikud liikumised), kommunismi aga süüdistati sotsialistliku liikumise lõhestamises. Mitte sotsiaaldemokraadid ei eraldunud kommunistidest, vaid kommunistid kaldusid sotsialismi rajalt kõrvale, kusjuures see toimus alles pärast bolševistlikku revolutsiooni Venemaal. Ma tahan siin juhtida tähelepanu isegi mitte niivõrd ideoloogiale, kuivõrd retoorikale ja fraseoloogiale. Kes on õppinud NLKP ajalugu, tunnevad selle eksimatult ära. Ja pole ka ime, kuna nad tulenevad samast allikast. Ning kui me loeme, et "rahvusvaheline kommunism on uue imperialismi instrument", siis on see täpselt seesama sõnastus, millega kommunistid materdasid sotsiaaldemokraate.
Sellised on lood rahvusvahelise sotsiaaldemokraatiaga. Kuidas aga oli asi rahvuslikega, vaatame paaril olulisemal näitel. Kõige tähtsam on saksa näide, kuna Saksamaa on sotsiaaldemokraatia häll. Esimesena võttis SD nime kasutusele 1869. aastal August Bebeli ja Wilhelm Liebknechti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Töölispartei (Sozialdemokratische Arbeiterpartei), mille platvormiks oli revolutsiooniline marksism. 1875. aastal ühinesid nad juba varem moodustatud Ferdinand Lassalle'i juhitud Saksa töölisparteiga (Allgemeine Deutsche Arbeiterverein), mis asus palju reformistlikumatel positsioonidel. Nii et ka Saksamaa SD ajaloos näeme algusest peale kahte suunda. Marx oli ühinemise vastane ning tema viimane suur teos "Gotha programmi arvustus" oli just sellele pühendatud. Katsed SD genealoogiat lähtuda Lassalle'i vastuseisust nn eisenachlastega (st Bebeli ja Liebknechti radikaalidest järglastega) on eksitavad, kuna lassallastel polnud probleeemi olla eisenachlastega samas erakonnas.
PictureLenini brošüüri esmatrükk
Venemaal loodi sotsiaaldemokraatlik partei (Российская социал-демократическая рабочая партия, VSDTP) 1898. aastal. Tahan juhtida tähelepanu sellele, et ehkki erakonnal oli pikk ametlik nimi, nimetasid selle liikmed end nimelt sotsiaaldemokraatideks (vrd nt Lenini brošüüri „Mis on „rahva sõbrad” ja kuidas nad võitlevad sotsiaaldemokraatidega”, st Lenin nimetas ennast sotsiaaldemokraadiks). Ka selles parteis olid algul esindatud erinevad marksistlikud ja neile lähedased jõud, kuid alates 1903. aastast saab juhtfiguuriks Lenin, kes juurutab parteis nn demokraatliku tsentralismi põhimõtte (demokraatia nimi on säilinud, kuid sisuliselt tähendab see parteisisest diktatuuri). Nagu I Internatsionaaligi puhul tekkis sisemine lõhenemine radikaalideks (bolševikeks) ja mõõdukateks (menševikeks; eesti keeles tihti tõlgitud enamlasteks ja vähemlasteks, kuid tegelikult oli parteikongresse, kus enamlased olid hoopis vähemuses, ent said tänu diktaatorlikele meetoditele siiski oma tahte läbi surutud). Siingi olid lõhestajad nimelt radikaalid. Menševikud olid endiselt nõus olema nendega ühes erakonnas.
Nüüd veidi jämedama vale juurde. Eesti- ja Liivimaa kubermangud kuulusid Vene impeeriumi koosseisu ning kuni 1918. aastani kuulus suurem osa Eestimaa sotsiaaldemokraate Venemaa Sotsiaaldemokraatlikku Töölisparteisse (VSDTP). Sotside reklaamikampaania jätab mulje, et kõik, kes on vähegi seotud mingi sotsiaalsusega, olid sotsiaaldemokraadid. Kuid praeguse Eesti territooriumil oli ainuüksi sotsiaaldemokraatlikke erakondi kaks: põhiliselt Eestimaa kubermanguga seotud VSDTP ning palju väiksem ja põhiliselt Liivimaa kubermanguga seotud Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Tööliste Partei. Just sellesse viimasesse kuulusid plakatitelgi esindatud August Rei ja Eduard Vilde. Tõsi küll, ka see erakond ei tekkinud tühjalt kohalt, kuni 1907 kuulus erakonna looja Rei samuti VSDTPsse. Mis aga puudutab näiteks Friedebert Tuglast, siis ei kuulunud ta sellesse erakonda kunagi, kuid oli üheskoos Lenini, Kingissepa jt VSDTP liige. Hoopis skandaalne on minu meelest aga mitte parteitu Tammsaare, vaid vaenuliku esseeride partei liikme Gustav Suitsu kaasamine sotside kampaaniasse. Esseerid ehk sotsialistid-revolutsionäärid võitsid esimesed ja viimased vabad valimised revolutsioonijärgsel Venemaal, mille tagajärjel nad kuulusid likvideerimisele.
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Mihhail Lotman' : Sünnijärgsed sotsid
Siin peitub üsna peenike vale. Tegelikult sotsiaaldemokraatia oli ja on marksistlik konstruktsioon. Sotsiaaldemokraadid, k.a Eesti omad, kuuluvad Sotsialistlikku Internatsionaali, mis on II Internatsionaali (mille mitteametlik nimi oli samuti Sotsialistlik Internatsionaal) järglane. Problemaatiline võib olla vaid see, kas tegu on otsese järglusega või oli vahelüliks nn Berni Internatsionaal. II Internatsionaal aga jätkas sealt, kus I Internatsionaal lõpetas. Seega võib jälgida järjepidevat joont Marxi loodud organisatsioonist kuni tänapäevaste sotsideni välja. Märkimisväärne on arengu loogika. Sotsiaaldemokraatia ajaloos näeme pidevalt kahe tiiva -- radikaalse ja mõõduka -- omavahelist võitlust, kusjuures eranditult on radikaalid need, kes löövad lahku ning moodustavad oma organisatsiooni. Mõõdukaid pole aga radikaalidega samasse organisatsiooni kuulumine häirinud. I Internatsionaal loodi 1864 Marxi egiidi all, 1868. aastal liitus sellega Mihhail Bakunin. Viimane oli anarhistist radikaalne revolutsionäär, kes põlastas Marxi väikekodanlikku mõõdukust ning muutus karismaatilise liidrina sotsialistlikus liikumises väga mõjukaks. 1872. aastaks oli rohkem kui kaks kolmandikku Internatsionaali liikmetest Bakunini pooldajad. Ülejäänute hulgast olid suurem osa Marxi järgijad, kuid oli ka väike osa Proudhoni pooldajaid. Radikaalid lahkusid ja sellega oli I Internatsionaal lõppenud.
Analoogiline lugu juhtus II Internatsionaaliga, kust radikaalsed sotsiaaldemokraadid Venemaal võidutsenud bolševikega eesotsas välja astusid ning moodustasid 1919. aastal III Internatsionaali (mitteametliku nimega Komintern). Seega oleks ebakorrektne rääkida mingisugusest rahvusvahelisest sotsiaaldemokraatiast, mis enne 1919. aastat vastandus marksismile. Segadust loovad aga mitte ainult Eesti sotsid. Sotsinterni dokumentidest võib lugeda ühelt poolt seda, et nad on 1864. aastal (st Marxi) rajatud Internatsionaali järeltulijad, teisalt aga tähistati 1989. aastal Sotsinterni saja aasta juubelit, st oma asutamist arvestavad nad II Internatsionaali rajamisest. 1951. aastal võttis Sotsinterni I Kongress vastu deklaratsiooni, milles kapitalismi süüdistati kõikides ühiskonna pahedes, k.a fašismis ja natsismis (tegelikult olid mõlemad sotsialistlikud liikumised), kommunismi aga süüdistati sotsialistliku liikumise lõhestamises. Mitte sotsiaaldemokraadid ei eraldunud kommunistidest, vaid kommunistid kaldusid sotsialismi rajalt kõrvale, kusjuures see toimus alles pärast bolševistlikku revolutsiooni Venemaal. Ma tahan siin juhtida tähelepanu isegi mitte niivõrd ideoloogiale, kuivõrd retoorikale ja fraseoloogiale. Kes on õppinud NLKP ajalugu, tunnevad selle eksimatult ära. Ja pole ka ime, kuna nad tulenevad samast allikast. Ning kui me loeme, et "rahvusvaheline kommunism on uue imperialismi instrument", siis on see täpselt seesama sõnastus, millega kommunistid materdasid sotsiaaldemokraate.
Sellised on lood rahvusvahelise sotsiaaldemokraatiaga. Kuidas aga oli asi rahvuslikega, vaatame paaril olulisemal näitel. Kõige tähtsam on saksa näide, kuna Saksamaa on sotsiaaldemokraatia häll. Esimesena võttis SD nime kasutusele 1869. aastal August Bebeli ja Wilhelm Liebknechti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Töölispartei (Sozialdemokratische Arbeiterpartei), mille platvormiks oli revolutsiooniline marksism. 1875. aastal ühinesid nad juba varem moodustatud Ferdinand Lassalle'i juhitud Saksa töölisparteiga (Allgemeine Deutsche Arbeiterverein), mis asus palju reformistlikumatel positsioonidel. Nii et ka Saksamaa SD ajaloos näeme algusest peale kahte suunda. Marx oli ühinemise vastane ning tema viimane suur teos "Gotha programmi arvustus" oli just sellele pühendatud. Katsed SD genealoogiat lähtuda Lassalle'i vastuseisust nn eisenachlastega (st Bebeli ja Liebknechti radikaalidest järglastega) on eksitavad, kuna lassallastel polnud probleeemi olla eisenachlastega samas erakonnas.
PictureLenini brošüüri esmatrükk
Venemaal loodi sotsiaaldemokraatlik partei (Российская социал-демократическая рабочая партия, VSDTP) 1898. aastal. Tahan juhtida tähelepanu sellele, et ehkki erakonnal oli pikk ametlik nimi, nimetasid selle liikmed end nimelt sotsiaaldemokraatideks (vrd nt Lenini brošüüri „Mis on „rahva sõbrad” ja kuidas nad võitlevad sotsiaaldemokraatidega”, st Lenin nimetas ennast sotsiaaldemokraadiks). Ka selles parteis olid algul esindatud erinevad marksistlikud ja neile lähedased jõud, kuid alates 1903. aastast saab juhtfiguuriks Lenin, kes juurutab parteis nn demokraatliku tsentralismi põhimõtte (demokraatia nimi on säilinud, kuid sisuliselt tähendab see parteisisest diktatuuri). Nagu I Internatsionaaligi puhul tekkis sisemine lõhenemine radikaalideks (bolševikeks) ja mõõdukateks (menševikeks; eesti keeles tihti tõlgitud enamlasteks ja vähemlasteks, kuid tegelikult oli parteikongresse, kus enamlased olid hoopis vähemuses, ent said tänu diktaatorlikele meetoditele siiski oma tahte läbi surutud). Siingi olid lõhestajad nimelt radikaalid. Menševikud olid endiselt nõus olema nendega ühes erakonnas.
Nüüd veidi jämedama vale juurde. Eesti- ja Liivimaa kubermangud kuulusid Vene impeeriumi koosseisu ning kuni 1918. aastani kuulus suurem osa Eestimaa sotsiaaldemokraate Venemaa Sotsiaaldemokraatlikku Töölisparteisse (VSDTP). Sotside reklaamikampaania jätab mulje, et kõik, kes on vähegi seotud mingi sotsiaalsusega, olid sotsiaaldemokraadid. Kuid praeguse Eesti territooriumil oli ainuüksi sotsiaaldemokraatlikke erakondi kaks: põhiliselt Eestimaa kubermanguga seotud VSDTP ning palju väiksem ja põhiliselt Liivimaa kubermanguga seotud Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Tööliste Partei. Just sellesse viimasesse kuulusid plakatitelgi esindatud August Rei ja Eduard Vilde. Tõsi küll, ka see erakond ei tekkinud tühjalt kohalt, kuni 1907 kuulus erakonna looja Rei samuti VSDTPsse. Mis aga puudutab näiteks Friedebert Tuglast, siis ei kuulunud ta sellesse erakonda kunagi, kuid oli üheskoos Lenini, Kingissepa jt VSDTP liige. Hoopis skandaalne on minu meelest aga mitte parteitu Tammsaare, vaid vaenuliku esseeride partei liikme Gustav Suitsu kaasamine sotside kampaaniasse. Esseerid ehk sotsialistid-revolutsionäärid võitsid esimesed ja viimased vabad valimised revolutsioonijärgsel Venemaal, mille tagajärjel nad kuulusid likvideerimisele.
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22 March 2018 22:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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1864 saw the founding of the International Workingmens Association, also known as the First International, another issue in the First International was the role of reformism. Although Lassalle was not a Marxist, he was influenced by the theories of Marx and Engels, however unlike Marxs and Engelss The Communist Manifesto, Lassalle promoted class struggle in a more moderate form. While Marx viewed the state negatively as an instrument of class rule that should only exist temporarily upon the rise to power of the proletariat and then dismantled, Lassalle accepted the state. Lassalle viewed the state as a means through which workers could enhance their interests, Lassalles strategy was primarily electoral and reformist, with Lassalleans contending that the working class needed a political party that fought above all for universal adult male suffrage. The ADAVs party newspaper was called Der Sozialdemokrat, Marx and Engels responded to the title Sozialdemocrat with distaste, Engels once writing, But what a title, Sozialdemokrat. Why dont they simply call it The Proletarian. Marx agreed with Engels that Sozialdemokrat was a bad title, there was a Marxist faction within the ADAV represented by Wilhelm Liebknecht who became one of the editors of the Die Sozialdemokrat. Friction in the ADAV arose over Lassalles policy of an approach to Bismarck that had assumed incorrectly that Bismarck in turn would be friendly towards them. This approach was opposed by the partys Marxists, including Liebknecht, opposition in the ADAV to Lassalles friendly approach to Bismarcks government resulted in Liebknecht resigning from his position as editor of Die Sozialdemokrat and leaving the ADAV in 1865. Though the SDAP was not officially Marxist, it was the first major organization to be led by Marxists and Marx. The party adopted stances similar to those adopted by Marx at the First International, there was intense rivalry and antagonism between the SDAP and the ADAV, with the SDAP being highly hostile to the Prussian government while the ADAV pursued a reformist and more cooperative approach. In spite of such militant rhetoric to appeal to the working class, in 1875 Marx attacked the Gotha Program that became the program of Social Democratic Party of Germany in the same year in his Critique of the Gotha Program. Marx was not optimistic that Germany at the time was not open to a means to achieve socialism. In addition he noticed a change over the relations between the two classes. The Reform Acts of 1867 and 1884 make an approach to universal suffrage. The Fabian Society was founded as a group from the Fellowship of the New Life due to opposition within that group to socialism
1864 saw the founding of the International Workingmens Association, also known as the First International, another issue in the First International was the role of reformism. Although Lassalle was not a Marxist, he was influenced by the theories of Marx and Engels, however unlike Marxs and Engelss The Communist Manifesto, Lassalle promoted class struggle in a more moderate form. While Marx viewed the state negatively as an instrument of class rule that should only exist temporarily upon the rise to power of the proletariat and then dismantled, Lassalle accepted the state. Lassalle viewed the state as a means through which workers could enhance their interests, Lassalles strategy was primarily electoral and reformist, with Lassalleans contending that the working class needed a political party that fought above all for universal adult male suffrage. The ADAVs party newspaper was called Der Sozialdemokrat, Marx and Engels responded to the title Sozialdemocrat with distaste, Engels once writing, But what a title, Sozialdemokrat. Why dont they simply call it The Proletarian. Marx agreed with Engels that Sozialdemokrat was a bad title, there was a Marxist faction within the ADAV represented by Wilhelm Liebknecht who became one of the editors of the Die Sozialdemokrat. Friction in the ADAV arose over Lassalles policy of an approach to Bismarck that had assumed incorrectly that Bismarck in turn would be friendly towards them. This approach was opposed by the partys Marxists, including Liebknecht, opposition in the ADAV to Lassalles friendly approach to Bismarcks government resulted in Liebknecht resigning from his position as editor of Die Sozialdemokrat and leaving the ADAV in 1865. Though the SDAP was not officially Marxist, it was the first major organization to be led by Marxists and Marx. The party adopted stances similar to those adopted by Marx at the First International, there was intense rivalry and antagonism between the SDAP and the ADAV, with the SDAP being highly hostile to the Prussian government while the ADAV pursued a reformist and more cooperative approach. In spite of such militant rhetoric to appeal to the working class, in 1875 Marx attacked the Gotha Program that became the program of Social Democratic Party of Germany in the same year in his Critique of the Gotha Program. Marx was not optimistic that Germany at the time was not open to a means to achieve socialism. In addition he noticed a change over the relations between the two classes. The Reform Acts of 1867 and 1884 make an approach to universal suffrage. The Fabian Society was founded as a group from the Fellowship of the New Life due to opposition within that group to socialism
22 March 2018 22:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sooideoloogia ajaloost ehk katoliikliku internatsionaali kohtumine eesti rahvuslusega
http://www.vikerkaar.ee/archives/20153
Riigist riiki on „sooideoloogia“ kriitika võrdlemisi sarnane: sooideoloogias nähakse Euroopa Liidu ja ÜRO egiidi all ellu viidavat globaalset „antropoloogilist revolutsiooni“, mille eesmärgiks on traditsiooniliste ja loomupäraste soorollide hävitamine ning inimolemuse põhimõtteline ja sunniviisiline ümberkujundamine. Selle arusaama kohaselt ei ole viimaste aastakümnete naiste õigusi, soolist võrdõiguslikkust ja seksuaalset orientatsiooni puudutavad arengud olnud mitte eraldiseisvad debatid, vaid omavahel ühendatud katsed „inimsuhete, rahva, rahvuse ning ühiskonna“ radikaalseks muutmiseks. Sooideoloogia alla lahterdatakse terve hulk debatte, alates semantilistest (kas on viisakas rääkida „esimeestest“ ja „esinaistest“ või hoopis „eesistujatest“?) ja lõpetades pedagoogiliste (millist seksuaalharidust tuleks põhikoolis õpetada?), meditsiinilis-eetiliste (kas abort peaks olema lubatud?) ning juriidilistega (kas ja kuidas tuleks reguleerida samasooliste kooselu?). Põhiline väärväide olevat arusaam soo sotsiaalsest konstruktsioonist – siit ka termin „sooideoloogia“ ehk gender ideology, mis viitab ingliskeelsele eristusele terminite sex ja gender vahel.[7] Sooideoloogiat nähakse totalitaarse ja kosmopoliitilise projektina, mida juhib eksiteele sattunud või suisa otseselt pahatahtlik eliit.
Niisugune eshatoloogiline nägemus on aidanud võimendada varasemalt võrdlemisi viisakaid debatte elu ja surma peale löödavateks lahinguteks. Kooseluseadus, Istanbuli konventsioon, Rootsi soo-neutraalsed lasteaiad ja vestlussaadete naistepõud on andnud põhjust paljudeks poleemilisteks arvamusartikliteks (ka siinkirjutaja sulest, kes – full disclosure – ühemõtteliselt võrdõiguslikkust toetab). Paraku on selles väitluspalavikus unustatud küsida, miks on „sooideoloogiast“ üldse saanud sedavõrd kiiresti ja ootamatult Eestit lõhestav probleem.
Sooideoloogia tõus poliitiliste debattide keskmesse on rahvusvaheline nähtus, mis Eestis on võtnud omanäolise ja ootamatult radikaalse vormi, andes eesti paremradikaalidele kätte suuna, mida veel kümne-viieteist aasta eest oleks olnud raske ette näha. Suuresti vastutab selle pöörde eest 2011. aastal asutatud Sihtasutus Perekonna ja Traditsiooni Kaitseks (SAPTK), mille juhid Varro Vooglaid ja Markus Järvi on sooideoloogia kriitikat teinud juba 2005. aastast saadik. Neile on aidanud kaasa üleeuroopaline sooideoloogia-vastane liikumine, mida juhivad katoliiklikud aktivistid, kes lähtuvad oma strateegias Johannes Paulus II ja kardinal Ratzingeri (hilisema paavst Benedictus XVI) mõttetööst. Ent ka üleeuroopalises plaanis on SAPTK üsna erinäoline.[8] Kui konservatiivsed liikumised Euroopas jäävad suures osas siiski peavoolu katoliikluse raamidesse, tunnistades II Vatikani kirikukogu põhimõtteid ja liberaalset demokraatiat, siis SAPTK-i juured on Brasiiliast pärit liikumises Traditsioon, Perekond ja Eraomand (TFP), mis vastukaaluks moodsa ühiskonna dekadentsile väärtustab 15. sajandi reformatsioonieelseid monarhistlikke ja rangelt kiriklikke väärtusi. Loomulikult on Eesti parem-radikaalidel intellektuaalseid eeskujusid mujalgi, alates USA kultuurisõdalastest ja lõpetades kohalike mõtlejatega. Sooküsimuse käsitlemisel viivad teemavalikud, argumendid ja sümboolika aga otseselt kaasaegse katoliikluse omapärasemate esindajateni. Seletamaks, miks see nii on läinud, tuleb vaadelda katoliiklust üheskoos Eesti paremradikaalse antikommunismi ning Euroopa Liidu vastasuse ajalooga.
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Riigist riiki on „sooideoloogia“ kriitika võrdlemisi sarnane: sooideoloogias nähakse Euroopa Liidu ja ÜRO egiidi all ellu viidavat globaalset „antropoloogilist revolutsiooni“, mille eesmärgiks on traditsiooniliste ja loomupäraste soorollide hävitamine ning inimolemuse põhimõtteline ja sunniviisiline ümberkujundamine. Selle arusaama kohaselt ei ole viimaste aastakümnete naiste õigusi, soolist võrdõiguslikkust ja seksuaalset orientatsiooni puudutavad arengud olnud mitte eraldiseisvad debatid, vaid omavahel ühendatud katsed „inimsuhete, rahva, rahvuse ning ühiskonna“ radikaalseks muutmiseks. Sooideoloogia alla lahterdatakse terve hulk debatte, alates semantilistest (kas on viisakas rääkida „esimeestest“ ja „esinaistest“ või hoopis „eesistujatest“?) ja lõpetades pedagoogiliste (millist seksuaalharidust tuleks põhikoolis õpetada?), meditsiinilis-eetiliste (kas abort peaks olema lubatud?) ning juriidilistega (kas ja kuidas tuleks reguleerida samasooliste kooselu?). Põhiline väärväide olevat arusaam soo sotsiaalsest konstruktsioonist – siit ka termin „sooideoloogia“ ehk gender ideology, mis viitab ingliskeelsele eristusele terminite sex ja gender vahel.[7] Sooideoloogiat nähakse totalitaarse ja kosmopoliitilise projektina, mida juhib eksiteele sattunud või suisa otseselt pahatahtlik eliit.
Niisugune eshatoloogiline nägemus on aidanud võimendada varasemalt võrdlemisi viisakaid debatte elu ja surma peale löödavateks lahinguteks. Kooseluseadus, Istanbuli konventsioon, Rootsi soo-neutraalsed lasteaiad ja vestlussaadete naistepõud on andnud põhjust paljudeks poleemilisteks arvamusartikliteks (ka siinkirjutaja sulest, kes – full disclosure – ühemõtteliselt võrdõiguslikkust toetab). Paraku on selles väitluspalavikus unustatud küsida, miks on „sooideoloogiast“ üldse saanud sedavõrd kiiresti ja ootamatult Eestit lõhestav probleem.
Sooideoloogia tõus poliitiliste debattide keskmesse on rahvusvaheline nähtus, mis Eestis on võtnud omanäolise ja ootamatult radikaalse vormi, andes eesti paremradikaalidele kätte suuna, mida veel kümne-viieteist aasta eest oleks olnud raske ette näha. Suuresti vastutab selle pöörde eest 2011. aastal asutatud Sihtasutus Perekonna ja Traditsiooni Kaitseks (SAPTK), mille juhid Varro Vooglaid ja Markus Järvi on sooideoloogia kriitikat teinud juba 2005. aastast saadik. Neile on aidanud kaasa üleeuroopaline sooideoloogia-vastane liikumine, mida juhivad katoliiklikud aktivistid, kes lähtuvad oma strateegias Johannes Paulus II ja kardinal Ratzingeri (hilisema paavst Benedictus XVI) mõttetööst. Ent ka üleeuroopalises plaanis on SAPTK üsna erinäoline.[8] Kui konservatiivsed liikumised Euroopas jäävad suures osas siiski peavoolu katoliikluse raamidesse, tunnistades II Vatikani kirikukogu põhimõtteid ja liberaalset demokraatiat, siis SAPTK-i juured on Brasiiliast pärit liikumises Traditsioon, Perekond ja Eraomand (TFP), mis vastukaaluks moodsa ühiskonna dekadentsile väärtustab 15. sajandi reformatsioonieelseid monarhistlikke ja rangelt kiriklikke väärtusi. Loomulikult on Eesti parem-radikaalidel intellektuaalseid eeskujusid mujalgi, alates USA kultuurisõdalastest ja lõpetades kohalike mõtlejatega. Sooküsimuse käsitlemisel viivad teemavalikud, argumendid ja sümboolika aga otseselt kaasaegse katoliikluse omapärasemate esindajateni. Seletamaks, miks see nii on läinud, tuleb vaadelda katoliiklust üheskoos Eesti paremradikaalse antikommunismi ning Euroopa Liidu vastasuse ajalooga.
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22 March 2018 22:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/ead-display/-/ead/pl/aicode/EE-RA/type/fa/id/ERAF.25
http://ais.ra.ee/index.php?module=202&op=4&tyyp=2&kokku=1&id=111000000066
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/explorer.php?tid=259&iid=111000000066&lst=2&hash=76ad03e285cafab309c697495e4c7fca
Kominterni Eesti sektsioon Leningradis 1917-1941
Nagu nähtub arhiivimoodustja kirjeldusest (vt.) kuulus Eestimaa Kommunistlik Partei autonoomse sektsioonina Kommunistlikusse Internatsionaali, st., et laias laastus on EKP (1920 -1940) ja Kommunistliku Internatsionaali Eesti sektsioon kattuvad arhiivimoodustajad. Arhiivifondi ERAF.25 – Kominterni Eesti sektsioon Leningradis materjalid ei kajasta mitte üksnes EKP suhteid ja tegevust Kominterni liinis vaid dokumenteerivad laiemalt EKP ajalugu 1940.a-ni . Arhiivifondi nimetus: Kominterni Eesti sektsioon Leningradis on mõnevõrra tinglik kuna EKP juhtorganite struktuur (sh. struktuuriüksused, milliste kompetentsi otseselt kuulus sidepidamine Kominterni juhtorganitega) muutus 1920-1940 korduvalt. Ka EKP juhtfiguurid kuulusid korraga mitmesse juhtivasse struktuuriüksuesse ja elasid alaliselt erinevates keskustes Moskvas (näit. H.Pöögelmann, R. Vakmann) või Petrogradis/ Leningradis (näit. J. Anvelt, O. Rästas).
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Kommunistlik Internatsionaal (Kolmas Internatsionaal; Komintern) oli kommunistlikke ja revolutsioonilisi töölisparteisid ühendav rahvusvaheline organisatsioon keskusega Moskvas. Komintern asutati V. Lenini initsiatiivil 1919 deklareeritud eesmärgiga võidelda proletariaadi diktatuur kehtestamise ja kapitalistliku ühiskonnakorra kommunistlikuga asendamise eest. Kommunistlik Internatsionaal lõpetas tegevuse Kominterni Täitevkomitee Presiidiumi 15.05.1943. a otsusega.
Eestimaa Kommunistlik Partei kuulus formaalselt iseseisva parteiorganisatsiooni/autonoomse sektsioonina Kominterni aastatel 1920 – 1940.
Eestimaa kommunistlik parteiorganisatsioon lahkus Venamaa Kommunistliku (bolševike) Partei koosseisust ja konstitueerus Eestimaa Kommunistliku Parteina 05.09.1920.a Tallinnas illegaalselt peetud EKP I kongressil, kus võeti vastu ka partei programm ja põhikiri ning valiti Keskkomitee kuhu kuulusid V. Kingissepp, J. Anvelt, H. Pöögelmann, J. Kreuks jt.
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Kommunistlik Internatsionaal
Komintern – kommunistlike ja kommunistliku tausatga ("revolutsioonilisi") töölisparteisid ühendav rahvusvaheline organisatsioon 1919 – 1943. Kõik parteid, sealhulgas EKP, kuulusid Kominterni sektsiooni õigustes. Kominterni kõrgeim organ oli Kominterni kongress, kõik a.-l 1919 – 1935 toimunud seitse kongressi toimusid Moskvas (II kongress 1920.a Moskvas ja ja Petrogradis). Viimasel, VII kongressil osales esindajaid 59 riigist. Kongressidevahelisel ajal oli juhtivaks organiks Kommunistliku Internatsionaali Täitevkomitee – moodustati 1919 – 1922 kommunistlike parteide poolt delegeeritutest (EKP esinadajana
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Kominterni poolt organiseerituna tekkis ka rida allorganisatsioone: Kommunistlik Noorsoo Internatsionaal (tegutses Kominterni sektsioonina 1919 – 1943), ametiühinguorganisatsioonide ühendus (Профинтерн), talurahvaorganisatsioon (Крестинтерн), töölisspordiorganisatsioonide ühendus (Спортинтерн); Rahvusvaheline Revolutsioonivõitlejate Abistamise Organisatsioon (MOPR = Международная организация помощи борцам революции ) jm. Loodi ka õppeasutusi, millest Eesti kommunistid olid nii lektorite kui kuulajatena enim seotud J. Marchlewski nim. Lääne Vähemus-rahvuste Kommunistliku Ülikooliga Petrogradis/Leningradis.
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1945.a tõstatas EKP Keskkomitee küsimuse EKP tegevust enne 1940.a kajastavate materjalide koondamise Venemaal, peamiselt Leningradis ja Moskvas (NLKP Keskkomitee Marksismi-leninismi Instituudi Partei Keskarhiivis) asunud NLKP arhiividest Eestisse. 1946 – 1956 toimetatigi suurem kogus (1946.a Leningradi parteiarhiivist ca 1,5 tonni) dokumente EKP Keskkomitee Parteiarhiivi. Saabunud materjalist moodustati peale korrastamist muuhulgas Kommunistliku Internatsionaali Eesti sektsiooni, aga ka Eestimaa Kommunistliku Partei Venemaa/Välismaal Büroo, Eesti Töörahva Kommuuni ja Eestimaa Kommunistliku Partei Ajaloo Komisjoni fond.
Koos teiste EKP arhiivi materjalidega võeti kõnealused dokumendid 1991.a üle Eesti Vabariigi riiklikku arhiivisüsteemi ja säilitatakse Rahvusarhiivi hoidlas Tallinnas, Tõnismägi 16.
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http://ais.ra.ee/index.php?module=202&op=4&tyyp=2&kokku=1&id=111000000066
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/explorer.php?tid=259&iid=111000000066&lst=2&hash=76ad03e285cafab309c697495e4c7fca
Kominterni Eesti sektsioon Leningradis 1917-1941
Nagu nähtub arhiivimoodustja kirjeldusest (vt.) kuulus Eestimaa Kommunistlik Partei autonoomse sektsioonina Kommunistlikusse Internatsionaali, st., et laias laastus on EKP (1920 -1940) ja Kommunistliku Internatsionaali Eesti sektsioon kattuvad arhiivimoodustajad. Arhiivifondi ERAF.25 – Kominterni Eesti sektsioon Leningradis materjalid ei kajasta mitte üksnes EKP suhteid ja tegevust Kominterni liinis vaid dokumenteerivad laiemalt EKP ajalugu 1940.a-ni . Arhiivifondi nimetus: Kominterni Eesti sektsioon Leningradis on mõnevõrra tinglik kuna EKP juhtorganite struktuur (sh. struktuuriüksused, milliste kompetentsi otseselt kuulus sidepidamine Kominterni juhtorganitega) muutus 1920-1940 korduvalt. Ka EKP juhtfiguurid kuulusid korraga mitmesse juhtivasse struktuuriüksuesse ja elasid alaliselt erinevates keskustes Moskvas (näit. H.Pöögelmann, R. Vakmann) või Petrogradis/ Leningradis (näit. J. Anvelt, O. Rästas).
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Kommunistlik Internatsionaal (Kolmas Internatsionaal; Komintern) oli kommunistlikke ja revolutsioonilisi töölisparteisid ühendav rahvusvaheline organisatsioon keskusega Moskvas. Komintern asutati V. Lenini initsiatiivil 1919 deklareeritud eesmärgiga võidelda proletariaadi diktatuur kehtestamise ja kapitalistliku ühiskonnakorra kommunistlikuga asendamise eest. Kommunistlik Internatsionaal lõpetas tegevuse Kominterni Täitevkomitee Presiidiumi 15.05.1943. a otsusega.
Eestimaa Kommunistlik Partei kuulus formaalselt iseseisva parteiorganisatsiooni/autonoomse sektsioonina Kominterni aastatel 1920 – 1940.
Eestimaa kommunistlik parteiorganisatsioon lahkus Venamaa Kommunistliku (bolševike) Partei koosseisust ja konstitueerus Eestimaa Kommunistliku Parteina 05.09.1920.a Tallinnas illegaalselt peetud EKP I kongressil, kus võeti vastu ka partei programm ja põhikiri ning valiti Keskkomitee kuhu kuulusid V. Kingissepp, J. Anvelt, H. Pöögelmann, J. Kreuks jt.
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Kommunistlik Internatsionaal
Komintern – kommunistlike ja kommunistliku tausatga ("revolutsioonilisi") töölisparteisid ühendav rahvusvaheline organisatsioon 1919 – 1943. Kõik parteid, sealhulgas EKP, kuulusid Kominterni sektsiooni õigustes. Kominterni kõrgeim organ oli Kominterni kongress, kõik a.-l 1919 – 1935 toimunud seitse kongressi toimusid Moskvas (II kongress 1920.a Moskvas ja ja Petrogradis). Viimasel, VII kongressil osales esindajaid 59 riigist. Kongressidevahelisel ajal oli juhtivaks organiks Kommunistliku Internatsionaali Täitevkomitee – moodustati 1919 – 1922 kommunistlike parteide poolt delegeeritutest (EKP esinadajana
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Kominterni poolt organiseerituna tekkis ka rida allorganisatsioone: Kommunistlik Noorsoo Internatsionaal (tegutses Kominterni sektsioonina 1919 – 1943), ametiühinguorganisatsioonide ühendus (Профинтерн), talurahvaorganisatsioon (Крестинтерн), töölisspordiorganisatsioonide ühendus (Спортинтерн); Rahvusvaheline Revolutsioonivõitlejate Abistamise Organisatsioon (MOPR = Международная организация помощи борцам революции ) jm. Loodi ka õppeasutusi, millest Eesti kommunistid olid nii lektorite kui kuulajatena enim seotud J. Marchlewski nim. Lääne Vähemus-rahvuste Kommunistliku Ülikooliga Petrogradis/Leningradis.
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1945.a tõstatas EKP Keskkomitee küsimuse EKP tegevust enne 1940.a kajastavate materjalide koondamise Venemaal, peamiselt Leningradis ja Moskvas (NLKP Keskkomitee Marksismi-leninismi Instituudi Partei Keskarhiivis) asunud NLKP arhiividest Eestisse. 1946 – 1956 toimetatigi suurem kogus (1946.a Leningradi parteiarhiivist ca 1,5 tonni) dokumente EKP Keskkomitee Parteiarhiivi. Saabunud materjalist moodustati peale korrastamist muuhulgas Kommunistliku Internatsionaali Eesti sektsiooni, aga ka Eestimaa Kommunistliku Partei Venemaa/Välismaal Büroo, Eesti Töörahva Kommuuni ja Eestimaa Kommunistliku Partei Ajaloo Komisjoni fond.
Koos teiste EKP arhiivi materjalidega võeti kõnealused dokumendid 1991.a üle Eesti Vabariigi riiklikku arhiivisüsteemi ja säilitatakse Rahvusarhiivi hoidlas Tallinnas, Tõnismägi 16.
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22 March 2018 22:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//järg//
Eesti kütiväed ei olnud võrreldes punalätlastega nii arvukad ega
võimekad. Üheks suuremaks põhjuseks võib siin pidada lätlastest nõrgemat
kommunistlikku propagandat, mis ei suutnud eriti edukalt 1917. aastal Vene
armee koosseisus formeeritud eesti rahvusväeosade sõdurite moraali mõjutada.
Erinevalt lätlastest eelistasid eesti rahvusväeosades teeninud sõdurid
jääda Venemaale mineku asemel kodumaale. Sündmuste edasine areng
1919. aasta alguses näitas, et bolševike juhtkond tundis huvi eest lastest, lätlastest,
leedulastest ja valgevenelastest rahvusüksuste loomise vastu pigem
poliitilistel kui sõjalistel eesmärkidel. Bolševike jaoks oli oluline asendada
riikidevahelise konflikti situatsioon kodusõja kontekstiga, vastandades
punaseid „internatsionaliste” valgetele „suurvene šovinistidele” (nn kodanlikele
natsionalistidele). Nii oli Nõukogude Eestimaa, Valgevene-Leedu ja
ka Ukraina armeede moodustamine pigem harilike Punaarmee väekoondiste
formaalne ümbernimetamine. Seejuures valgevene rahvusväeosi üldse
ei loodud. Valgevenes formeeritud Punaarmee üksused kandsid küll geograafiliste
kohtade nimetusi, kuid komplekteeriti rahvuslikul segapõhimõttel.
Leedu diviisi allüksustes teenisid enamasti venelased koos väheste
leedu kommunistidega. Pärast Punaarmee ilmset sõjalist ebaedu Läänerindel
nimetati „rahvuslikud” väekoondised 1919. aasta suvel tagasi Punaarmee
numbrilisteks armeedeks ja diviisideks.
Rahvusväeosade küsimuses võib oluliseks pidada VK(b)P 1. juuni
1919. aasta dekreeti nõukogude vabariikide sõjalisest ühtsusest, mis tähendas
strateegilisel ja operatiivsel tasandil sõjalise juhtimise tsentraliseerimist ehk
koondumist VNFSV kõrgeimasse sõjaväe juhtimisorganisse – revolutsioonilisse
sõjanõukogusse. Sellega võeti Eesti, Läti, Valgevene, Leedu ja Ukraina
nõukogude valitsustelt ära sõjalise juhtimise võimalus. Peagi likvideeriti ka
Eesti, Läti ja Leedu-Valgevene nõukogude valitsused, võttes nendelt ära kogu
võimu majanduslikes ja poliitilistes küsimustes
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Eesti kütiväed ei olnud võrreldes punalätlastega nii arvukad ega
võimekad. Üheks suuremaks põhjuseks võib siin pidada lätlastest nõrgemat
kommunistlikku propagandat, mis ei suutnud eriti edukalt 1917. aastal Vene
armee koosseisus formeeritud eesti rahvusväeosade sõdurite moraali mõjutada.
Erinevalt lätlastest eelistasid eesti rahvusväeosades teeninud sõdurid
jääda Venemaale mineku asemel kodumaale. Sündmuste edasine areng
1919. aasta alguses näitas, et bolševike juhtkond tundis huvi eest lastest, lätlastest,
leedulastest ja valgevenelastest rahvusüksuste loomise vastu pigem
poliitilistel kui sõjalistel eesmärkidel. Bolševike jaoks oli oluline asendada
riikidevahelise konflikti situatsioon kodusõja kontekstiga, vastandades
punaseid „internatsionaliste” valgetele „suurvene šovinistidele” (nn kodanlikele
natsionalistidele). Nii oli Nõukogude Eestimaa, Valgevene-Leedu ja
ka Ukraina armeede moodustamine pigem harilike Punaarmee väekoondiste
formaalne ümbernimetamine. Seejuures valgevene rahvusväeosi üldse
ei loodud. Valgevenes formeeritud Punaarmee üksused kandsid küll geograafiliste
kohtade nimetusi, kuid komplekteeriti rahvuslikul segapõhimõttel.
Leedu diviisi allüksustes teenisid enamasti venelased koos väheste
leedu kommunistidega. Pärast Punaarmee ilmset sõjalist ebaedu Läänerindel
nimetati „rahvuslikud” väekoondised 1919. aasta suvel tagasi Punaarmee
numbrilisteks armeedeks ja diviisideks.
Rahvusväeosade küsimuses võib oluliseks pidada VK(b)P 1. juuni
1919. aasta dekreeti nõukogude vabariikide sõjalisest ühtsusest, mis tähendas
strateegilisel ja operatiivsel tasandil sõjalise juhtimise tsentraliseerimist ehk
koondumist VNFSV kõrgeimasse sõjaväe juhtimisorganisse – revolutsioonilisse
sõjanõukogusse. Sellega võeti Eesti, Läti, Valgevene, Leedu ja Ukraina
nõukogude valitsustelt ära sõjalise juhtimise võimalus. Peagi likvideeriti ka
Eesti, Läti ja Leedu-Valgevene nõukogude valitsused, võttes nendelt ära kogu
võimu majanduslikes ja poliitilistes küsimustes
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22 March 2018 22:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.ksk.edu.ee/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/S%C3%B5jateadlane_1_08_Kop%C3%B5tin.pdf
PUNAARMEE RAHVUSVÄEOSAD AASTATEL 1918–1922
Igor Kopõtin
Artiklis on vaatluse alla võetud Venemaa piirides 1914. aastal elanud
rahvustest Punaarmee koosseisu formeeritud rahvusväeosad. Välja jää-
vad Punaarmee „internatsionaalsed väeüksused”, mille moodustamise
ja sõjategevuses rakendamise põhimõtted erinesid oluliselt Punaarmee
rahvus väeosade moodustamise põhimõtetest. Samuti jäävad välja soomlastest
ja poolakatest moodustatud punaüksused, sest need arvati juba tollal
internatsio naalsete väeüksuste hulka.4
Kuigi kõikehõlmavat monograafiat Punaarmee rahvusväeosadest ei ole
selle ajalooperioodi kohta seni ilmunud, on historiograafia eri rahvuste teenistusest
Punaarmees üpris mahukas. Nii ilmus Punaarmee läti puna väelaste
kohta juba nõukogude ajal hulganisti ajalookirjandust, millest vääri vad
maini mist Auseklis Spreslise, Valdis Berzinši ja Janis Krastinši tööd. Need
kirjutised kannavad küll oma ajastu ideoloogilist pitserit, kuid hoolimata sellest
annavad üsna selge ülevaate läti punaküttide väeosade (laskur väeosade)
moodustamise põhjustest.5
Sama võib öelda ka eesti kütivägede historio graafia kohta, mis on hiljuti täienenud Hanno Ojalo publitsistlikku laadi
kirjutisega, mis refereerib eelnevatel aastatel ilmunud töid.6
Valgevenelaste
ja ukrainlaste teenistusest Punaarmees annavad ülevaate Valge vene ajaloolase
Anatoli Gritskevitši ja Ukraina Teaduste Akadeemia ajaloolase Valeri
Soldatenko monograafiad kodusõjast.7
Eri rahvuste teenistust Punaarmees
on kajastatud Venemaa ajakirjades Voenno-Istoritšeski Žurnal ja Rodina
ilmunud populaarteaduslikes artiklites.8
Moslemitest formeeritud Punaarmee
rahvusväeosade kohta on küll ilmunud huvitavad käsitlusi, kuid need
on Eestis ja Euroopas raskesti kättesaadavad.
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Sõjategevuse kandumisel Läti ja Eesti territooriumile 1918. aasta lõpus
võttis Nõukogude Venemaa relvajõudude kõrgeim juhtorgan Vene SFNV
Revolutsiooniline Sõjanõukogu (Revvoensovet) vastu otsuse Lätimaa
Punaarmee moodustamise kohta, mida küll asuti ellu viima alles 1919.
aasta jaanuari algul. Selle operatiivtaktikalise üksuse tuumikuks said läti
kütidiviis ja Moskva internatsionaalne diviis. Märtsiks moodustati 2. läti
kütidiviis, mille tuumikuks said tšekaa läti rahvusüksused.22 Operatiivselt allus Lätimaa Punaarmee Põhjarinde juhatusele. Pärast lahingute eemaldumist
Läti territooriumilt nimetati Lätimaa Punaarmee 7. juunil ümber
15. armeeks. Huvitaval kombel juhtis põhiliselt Eesti ja Läti vastu tegutsevat
15. armeed eestlane August Kork (alates 31. juulist 1919) ja tema järel
eestlane Aleksander Kukk.
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Nii said Tartu ja Narva
kütipolgud tuleristsed „kulakliku” mässu mahasurumisel Moloskovitsõ-
Volossovo piirkonnas Petrogradi kubermangus. Pärast seda saadeti Tartu
kütipolk Põhjarindele. Üksikuid eestlasi võitles ka teistes Punaarmee
üksustes eri rinnetel.31
Enne Eestisse tungimist koondati kõik eesti kütiväeosad Jamburgi,
kust lähtudes osalesid nad hiljem 7. armee 6. diviisi koosseisus lahingutes Eestimaa territooriumil.32 „Internatsionaalset abi” eesti küttidele „Eestimaa
vabastamiseks kapitalistidest” pidid osutama teised 7. armee väeosad.33
29. novembril 1918. aastal kuulutati Narvas välja Eesti nõukogude vabariik
– Eesti Töörahva Kommuun. Märkimisväärseks võib pidada seda, et juba
samal päeval ilmus Lenini avaldus Punaarmee toetusest Eesti, Läti, Leedu
ja Ukraina nõukogude valitsusele, kus ta märkis vajadust võtta nimetatud
alade „šovinistidelt” ära võimalus tõlgendada Punaarmee edasitungi okupatsioonina.
Seoses sellega tekkis 1918. ja 1919. aasta vahetusel vajadus koondada
eesti kütiväeosad ühte üksusesse ja moodustada koguni Eesti Punaarmee.34
Selleni jõuti küll alles 1919. aasta veebruari lõpus, sest pärast Eesti
Rahvaväe edukat vastupealetungi punaste vastu jaanuaris 1919 kandsid eesti
kütiväeosad tõsiseid kaotusi ja nende lahinguvõimekus kahanes olu liselt.
PUNAARMEE RAHVUSVÄEOSAD AASTATEL 1918–1922
Igor Kopõtin
Artiklis on vaatluse alla võetud Venemaa piirides 1914. aastal elanud
rahvustest Punaarmee koosseisu formeeritud rahvusväeosad. Välja jää-
vad Punaarmee „internatsionaalsed väeüksused”, mille moodustamise
ja sõjategevuses rakendamise põhimõtted erinesid oluliselt Punaarmee
rahvus väeosade moodustamise põhimõtetest. Samuti jäävad välja soomlastest
ja poolakatest moodustatud punaüksused, sest need arvati juba tollal
internatsio naalsete väeüksuste hulka.4
Kuigi kõikehõlmavat monograafiat Punaarmee rahvusväeosadest ei ole
selle ajalooperioodi kohta seni ilmunud, on historiograafia eri rahvuste teenistusest
Punaarmees üpris mahukas. Nii ilmus Punaarmee läti puna väelaste
kohta juba nõukogude ajal hulganisti ajalookirjandust, millest vääri vad
maini mist Auseklis Spreslise, Valdis Berzinši ja Janis Krastinši tööd. Need
kirjutised kannavad küll oma ajastu ideoloogilist pitserit, kuid hoolimata sellest
annavad üsna selge ülevaate läti punaküttide väeosade (laskur väeosade)
moodustamise põhjustest.5
Sama võib öelda ka eesti kütivägede historio graafia kohta, mis on hiljuti täienenud Hanno Ojalo publitsistlikku laadi
kirjutisega, mis refereerib eelnevatel aastatel ilmunud töid.6
Valgevenelaste
ja ukrainlaste teenistusest Punaarmees annavad ülevaate Valge vene ajaloolase
Anatoli Gritskevitši ja Ukraina Teaduste Akadeemia ajaloolase Valeri
Soldatenko monograafiad kodusõjast.7
Eri rahvuste teenistust Punaarmees
on kajastatud Venemaa ajakirjades Voenno-Istoritšeski Žurnal ja Rodina
ilmunud populaarteaduslikes artiklites.8
Moslemitest formeeritud Punaarmee
rahvusväeosade kohta on küll ilmunud huvitavad käsitlusi, kuid need
on Eestis ja Euroopas raskesti kättesaadavad.
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Sõjategevuse kandumisel Läti ja Eesti territooriumile 1918. aasta lõpus
võttis Nõukogude Venemaa relvajõudude kõrgeim juhtorgan Vene SFNV
Revolutsiooniline Sõjanõukogu (Revvoensovet) vastu otsuse Lätimaa
Punaarmee moodustamise kohta, mida küll asuti ellu viima alles 1919.
aasta jaanuari algul. Selle operatiivtaktikalise üksuse tuumikuks said läti
kütidiviis ja Moskva internatsionaalne diviis. Märtsiks moodustati 2. läti
kütidiviis, mille tuumikuks said tšekaa läti rahvusüksused.22 Operatiivselt allus Lätimaa Punaarmee Põhjarinde juhatusele. Pärast lahingute eemaldumist
Läti territooriumilt nimetati Lätimaa Punaarmee 7. juunil ümber
15. armeeks. Huvitaval kombel juhtis põhiliselt Eesti ja Läti vastu tegutsevat
15. armeed eestlane August Kork (alates 31. juulist 1919) ja tema järel
eestlane Aleksander Kukk.
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Nii said Tartu ja Narva
kütipolgud tuleristsed „kulakliku” mässu mahasurumisel Moloskovitsõ-
Volossovo piirkonnas Petrogradi kubermangus. Pärast seda saadeti Tartu
kütipolk Põhjarindele. Üksikuid eestlasi võitles ka teistes Punaarmee
üksustes eri rinnetel.31
Enne Eestisse tungimist koondati kõik eesti kütiväeosad Jamburgi,
kust lähtudes osalesid nad hiljem 7. armee 6. diviisi koosseisus lahingutes Eestimaa territooriumil.32 „Internatsionaalset abi” eesti küttidele „Eestimaa
vabastamiseks kapitalistidest” pidid osutama teised 7. armee väeosad.33
29. novembril 1918. aastal kuulutati Narvas välja Eesti nõukogude vabariik
– Eesti Töörahva Kommuun. Märkimisväärseks võib pidada seda, et juba
samal päeval ilmus Lenini avaldus Punaarmee toetusest Eesti, Läti, Leedu
ja Ukraina nõukogude valitsusele, kus ta märkis vajadust võtta nimetatud
alade „šovinistidelt” ära võimalus tõlgendada Punaarmee edasitungi okupatsioonina.
Seoses sellega tekkis 1918. ja 1919. aasta vahetusel vajadus koondada
eesti kütiväeosad ühte üksusesse ja moodustada koguni Eesti Punaarmee.34
Selleni jõuti küll alles 1919. aasta veebruari lõpus, sest pärast Eesti
Rahvaväe edukat vastupealetungi punaste vastu jaanuaris 1919 kandsid eesti
kütiväeosad tõsiseid kaotusi ja nende lahinguvõimekus kahanes olu liselt.
22 March 2018 22:21
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http://da3rx.com/dollu/ajaloot%C3%B6%C3%B6.docx
◦ Rahva pettumus, väljapääsuks arvati „kõva käega“ valitsejate võimuletulekus.
◦ Venemaal endine plaan kehtestada kogu maailmas kommunistlik kord. 1919. Moodustati Moskvas Kommunistlik Internatsionaal ehk Komitern. Võim taheti haarata vajadusel vägivallaga. Kulutati enamus näljahäda leevendusrahast ettevalmistusteks riigipööreteks.
◦ Korraldati mässe Bulgaarias, Poolas, Eestis, Saksamaal, mis maha suruti. Komiterni katse kukkus läbi.
◦ 1922. Tulid fašistid Itaalias võimule, keda juhtis Benito Mussolini.
• Uue majandusliku tõusu aastad
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◦ oliitiline ebastabiilsus, rahva pahameel, pettumus demokraatias.
◦ Prantsuse kommunistid ja sotsialistid sõlmisid 1934. Aastal koostööleppe, Rahvarinde idee.
◦ Aktiivne Kesk- ja Ida-Euroopas, puudus auahnuseks majanduslik- ja sõjaline jõud. NSV’ga koostöö, vastukaal Saksamaale.
13. Diktatuurid Lääne-Euroopas. Itaalia ja Saksamaa
◦ Rahva pettumus, väljapääsuks arvati „kõva käega“ valitsejate võimuletulekus.
◦ Venemaal endine plaan kehtestada kogu maailmas kommunistlik kord. 1919. Moodustati Moskvas Kommunistlik Internatsionaal ehk Komitern. Võim taheti haarata vajadusel vägivallaga. Kulutati enamus näljahäda leevendusrahast ettevalmistusteks riigipööreteks.
◦ Korraldati mässe Bulgaarias, Poolas, Eestis, Saksamaal, mis maha suruti. Komiterni katse kukkus läbi.
◦ 1922. Tulid fašistid Itaalias võimule, keda juhtis Benito Mussolini.
• Uue majandusliku tõusu aastad
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◦ oliitiline ebastabiilsus, rahva pahameel, pettumus demokraatias.
◦ Prantsuse kommunistid ja sotsialistid sõlmisid 1934. Aastal koostööleppe, Rahvarinde idee.
◦ Aktiivne Kesk- ja Ida-Euroopas, puudus auahnuseks majanduslik- ja sõjaline jõud. NSV’ga koostöö, vastukaal Saksamaale.
13. Diktatuurid Lääne-Euroopas. Itaalia ja Saksamaa
22 March 2018 22:20
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1980. aastate alguse KRÜsid iseloomustavad vajadus tabada kuulajate huvi
ning leida aktuaalseid ning huvitavaid teemasid.1188 See viis üldisest arenguseisakust
hoolimata mitmete huvitavate eksperimentideni, nt RÜna vormistatud
Noorte ABC on andnud inspiratsiooni paljutõotava nimega tarbekunsti rahvaülikoolide
„CDE kõigile” loomiseks.1189 Rahvaülikoolid „EFG vanuritele”, mis
neile loogiliselt järgneda võinuks, on arhiiviallikates siiski mainimata. Teatavale
hägususele KRÜde eesmärkides viitab Tartu Tervishoiutöötajate majas
tegutsenud üpriski abstraktse nimega RÜ „Kõigest kõigile”.1190 1981/82 aastal
alustasid mitmetes rajoonides tööd südamliku nimega „Rahvaste sõpruse ülikoolid”,1191
millega arvatavasti oli kirja saadud plusspunkt ideoloogiatöös olulise
„nõukogude patriotismi ja internatsionalismi” tarvis. Süsteemi kaasajastamine
ei viinud mitte ainult selliste poolnaljakate tulemusteni, vaid nt ateismi
valdkonnas jõuti viimaks ka päevakohaste tulemusteni – Tallinna Haridus- ja
Teadusala Töötajate majas komplekteeriti fakulteet õpetajatele moraali ja eetika
teemadel ning vastavad fakulteedid loodeti avada ka Tartus ja Kohtla-Järvel1192
– vajadusest selliste järele oli räägitud juba 1970. aastate alguses.
Eesmärke püüdis omal moel konkretiseerida partei. Teravdunud ideoloogilises
situatsioonis võttis EKP KK 1981. aastal vastu RÜsid puudutava otsuse
„Vabariigi rahvaülikoolide töö edasisest täiustamisest NLKP XXVI kongressi
valgusel”, mis rõhutas ideoloogilise õppe osa RÜde tegevuses, sama kinnitas
1983. aastal rõhutas nõupidamisel KARÜNi esimees Moss: KRÜde tööd tuleb
organiseerida „võimalikult mõtestatult, läbi ideoloogiatöö prisma” – „On vajalik,
et iga lektor tahab, oskab ja suudab ainet käsitleda läbi poliitika prisma”.1193
Kõik see andis põhjust 1986. aasta aruandluses kinnitada: „Möödunud viisaastakul
tugevnes RÜde töö parteiline juhtimine.” Üldiselt hinnati ENSV RÜde
süsteem sedavõrd õnnestunuks, et otsustati seda kogemust, eriti juhtimis struktuuri osas, levitada üleliidulises ulatuses.1194 Kontrolli tugevnemisele viitab
ka põhjalikum aruandlus kohtadelt – alates 1982. aastast hakati esitama eraldi
andmeid nii linnade kui rajoonide kohta. Kindlasti oli siin aga üsna palju tegemist
partei soovmõtlemisega, sest tegelikkuses ei suurenenud mitte ideoloogiatöö
valdkond, vaid üha rohkem loodi teaduskondi just töötajate erialaseks
enesetäiendamiseks.1195
Reaalsusega püüdis sammu pidada 1986. aastal Moskvast saadetud järjekordne
RÜ põhimääruse projekt, mis kinnitatakse Eesti NSV RÜN pleenumil
18. novembril 1986. Selles oli ideoloogilise õppe osa jäänud tahaplaanile ning
rõhutakse pigem täiendõppele, ideoloogilist osa siiski täiesti veel mitte kõrvale
jättes: „RÜd on õppeasutused, mis tegelevad nõukogude inimese teadmiste
pideva laiendamise ja süvendamisega. Kõrvuti hariduse ja kasvatuse muude
vormidega täiendavad poliitilise ja majandusliku hariduse ja kaadri kvalifikatsiooni
tõstmise süsteemi”, kusjuures spetsiaalselt rõhutatakse, et RÜd „aitavad
kaasa ühiskondlike kutsealade kaadri ettevalmistamisele”
--
Atko Remmel:
University of Tartu, Departmetnt of Estonian and Comparative Folklore, Faculty Member +1
"I defended my dissertation on antireligious struggle in Soviet Estonia in 2011 at the University of Tartu, Estonia and I'm continuing to work as a researcher at the same university. My research interests are divided between social and intellectual history, and sociology of religion, including antireligious policy and atheist propaganda in the Soviet Union, the history of nonreligious traditions, (non)religion and nationalism, relationships between religion and science, secularization and religious change, and contemporary forms of nonreligion and spirituality, especially in association with nature."
ning leida aktuaalseid ning huvitavaid teemasid.1188 See viis üldisest arenguseisakust
hoolimata mitmete huvitavate eksperimentideni, nt RÜna vormistatud
Noorte ABC on andnud inspiratsiooni paljutõotava nimega tarbekunsti rahvaülikoolide
„CDE kõigile” loomiseks.1189 Rahvaülikoolid „EFG vanuritele”, mis
neile loogiliselt järgneda võinuks, on arhiiviallikates siiski mainimata. Teatavale
hägususele KRÜde eesmärkides viitab Tartu Tervishoiutöötajate majas
tegutsenud üpriski abstraktse nimega RÜ „Kõigest kõigile”.1190 1981/82 aastal
alustasid mitmetes rajoonides tööd südamliku nimega „Rahvaste sõpruse ülikoolid”,1191
millega arvatavasti oli kirja saadud plusspunkt ideoloogiatöös olulise
„nõukogude patriotismi ja internatsionalismi” tarvis. Süsteemi kaasajastamine
ei viinud mitte ainult selliste poolnaljakate tulemusteni, vaid nt ateismi
valdkonnas jõuti viimaks ka päevakohaste tulemusteni – Tallinna Haridus- ja
Teadusala Töötajate majas komplekteeriti fakulteet õpetajatele moraali ja eetika
teemadel ning vastavad fakulteedid loodeti avada ka Tartus ja Kohtla-Järvel1192
– vajadusest selliste järele oli räägitud juba 1970. aastate alguses.
Eesmärke püüdis omal moel konkretiseerida partei. Teravdunud ideoloogilises
situatsioonis võttis EKP KK 1981. aastal vastu RÜsid puudutava otsuse
„Vabariigi rahvaülikoolide töö edasisest täiustamisest NLKP XXVI kongressi
valgusel”, mis rõhutas ideoloogilise õppe osa RÜde tegevuses, sama kinnitas
1983. aastal rõhutas nõupidamisel KARÜNi esimees Moss: KRÜde tööd tuleb
organiseerida „võimalikult mõtestatult, läbi ideoloogiatöö prisma” – „On vajalik,
et iga lektor tahab, oskab ja suudab ainet käsitleda läbi poliitika prisma”.1193
Kõik see andis põhjust 1986. aasta aruandluses kinnitada: „Möödunud viisaastakul
tugevnes RÜde töö parteiline juhtimine.” Üldiselt hinnati ENSV RÜde
süsteem sedavõrd õnnestunuks, et otsustati seda kogemust, eriti juhtimis struktuuri osas, levitada üleliidulises ulatuses.1194 Kontrolli tugevnemisele viitab
ka põhjalikum aruandlus kohtadelt – alates 1982. aastast hakati esitama eraldi
andmeid nii linnade kui rajoonide kohta. Kindlasti oli siin aga üsna palju tegemist
partei soovmõtlemisega, sest tegelikkuses ei suurenenud mitte ideoloogiatöö
valdkond, vaid üha rohkem loodi teaduskondi just töötajate erialaseks
enesetäiendamiseks.1195
Reaalsusega püüdis sammu pidada 1986. aastal Moskvast saadetud järjekordne
RÜ põhimääruse projekt, mis kinnitatakse Eesti NSV RÜN pleenumil
18. novembril 1986. Selles oli ideoloogilise õppe osa jäänud tahaplaanile ning
rõhutakse pigem täiendõppele, ideoloogilist osa siiski täiesti veel mitte kõrvale
jättes: „RÜd on õppeasutused, mis tegelevad nõukogude inimese teadmiste
pideva laiendamise ja süvendamisega. Kõrvuti hariduse ja kasvatuse muude
vormidega täiendavad poliitilise ja majandusliku hariduse ja kaadri kvalifikatsiooni
tõstmise süsteemi”, kusjuures spetsiaalselt rõhutatakse, et RÜd „aitavad
kaasa ühiskondlike kutsealade kaadri ettevalmistamisele”
--
Atko Remmel:
University of Tartu, Departmetnt of Estonian and Comparative Folklore, Faculty Member +1
"I defended my dissertation on antireligious struggle in Soviet Estonia in 2011 at the University of Tartu, Estonia and I'm continuing to work as a researcher at the same university. My research interests are divided between social and intellectual history, and sociology of religion, including antireligious policy and atheist propaganda in the Soviet Union, the history of nonreligious traditions, (non)religion and nationalism, relationships between religion and science, secularization and religious change, and contemporary forms of nonreligion and spirituality, especially in association with nature."
22 March 2018 22:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mil moel aga puutuvad koguduste annetused RKKdesse? Nimelt nägi riik
RKKsid nende üksustena, kes pidid tegelema koguduste „masseerimisega” selle
ülla eesmärgi nimel. 1974. aasta lõpus saatis volinik Piip kõigile RKKdele kirja,
kus ütleb, et „usuühingud täiendavad sellel aastal rahufondi tunduvalt passiivsemalt
kui muidu. Arvestades, et nende annetustest saadavad sissetulekud aastaaastalt
suurenevad, pole Rahufondi kindlustamise ülesandesse passiivne suhtumine
millegagi põhjendatud.” Ta palub RKKdel „tarvitusele võtta mõjutamise
abinõud”, kuid „mõjutamist korraldada delikaatselt ja argumenteeritult, arvestades,
et antud kampaania on usklikesse ja usuühingute tegelastesse kodanikutunde,
nõukogude patriotismi ja sotsialistliku internatsionalismi sisendamise
paremaid vorme”.717 Milliseid mõjutamisvahendeid volinik silmas pidas, ei ole
kahjuks öeldud. 1978. saadab volinik sarnase kirja: „Usukoondistelt rahufondi
laekuvad summad tunduvalt väiksemad kui möödunud aastal”, millist olukorda
ta nimetab „ebanormaalseks” ning nõuab „kaastöökomisjonide tegevuse otsustavat
parandamist sellel alal”: „Palume rakendada mõjutamisabinõud ning
tagada Rahufondi laekumise möödunud aasta taseme tunduva ületamisega.
Seejuures palume arvestada, et laekumise viimaseks tähtpäevaks on 1. detsember”.718
Selle kirjaga seoses juhtus piinlik äpardus Kohtla-Järve TK töötajal, kes ilmselt
pikemalt mõtlemata kasutas sama sõnastust kogudustele saadetud kirjas.
Kiviõli Peetri koguduse juhatuse esimees kirjutab oma vastuses üsna irooniliselt:
„Rahufondi on kogudus annetanud EELK konsistooriumi arvele. Kirjast
jääb selgusetuks lõik „rahufondi kantavad summad peab (?) üle kandma 1. detsembriks.”
Siiani on fond olnud vabatahtlik annetus. Kui on toimunud
muudatus, paluks sellest teada anda.”
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ERAF 148.86.48, l 3, EKP Tartu LK, Õiendid, aruanded, informatsioonid ja kirjavahetus
väljastatud EKP KK-le, suulise propaganda, poliitinformaatorite töö, parteiharidusvõrgu
tööst, internatsionalismist, kasvatusest, kultuuritöö, välisturismi ja tervishoiu küsimustest,
koolinoorte kommunistlikust kasvatamisest ja suvise koolivaheaja veetmise organiseerimisest
(1974).
67 Uusman, „Mõningaid jooni rahvaülikoolide kujunemisest”, 34. 1168 „International Association ‘Znanie’, History” (http://interznanie.ru/en/pages/id/historyen.html
(27. aprill 2011)
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Arhiivimaterjalide põhjal on selgelt nähtav EKP soov KÜde süsteem ideologiseerida:
„Kultuuriülikoolide peamine ülesanne on laiade rahvahulkade
kommunistliku teadmise tõstmine, nende ideelis-esteetiline kasvatamine, eesrindliku
kogemuse, teaduse ning tehnika propaganda. Kultuuriülikoolid peavad
kõigiti aitama partei ideelist mõju viia iga inimeseni, arendama kuulajate püüdu
endaharimisele” kinnitavad RÜde organiseerimise materjalid.1153 RÜde põhimäärus
lisab sellele nüansse toonase ideoloogia peasuuna vaimus: eesmärgiks
on „uue inimese kujundamine, tööarmastuse, kollektiivsuse, nõukogude patriotismi
ja proletaarse internatsionalismi kasvatamine”, milliseid teadmisi tuleb
kuulajateni viia populaarteaduslikus vormis.1154 Omal moel oli ideoloogiatöö
seatud ka üheks RÜ olemasolu tingimuseks: „Rahvaülikoolid peavad vastama
järgmistele nõuetele: alatise kuulajaskonna olemasolu, õppetöö kindlate programmide
alusel, kuulajate iseseisva töö organiseerimine, õppetöö ühendamine
kuulajate kommunistliku kasvatusega.”1155 Ka 1962. aasta RÜde TMNi nõupidamisel
rõhutati täiesti selgelt mõtet, et „rahvaülikool pole eriala kvalifikatsiooni
tõstmise asutus, vaid kommunistliku kasvatustöö vorm inimese
mitmekülgsuse arendamiseks”.1156 Neil põhjusil algasid enamike KÜde õppeplaanid
„ühiskondlik-poliitilise tsükliga” (nn „punased” ained), millele järgnesid
üldised ained ning seejärel KÜ spetsiifikast lähtuvalt erialased teemad.
Ideoloogiline osa jäi enamike KÜde õppeplaanis 10–15% piiridesse.1157 Vastuvõetud
otsustele järgnenud suunamuutus viis selleni, et juba mõne aasta pärast
ollaksegi EKP KK PAOs rahul – „rahvaülikoolid on üheks tõhusaimaks ideoloogilise
töö vormiks”.1158
Tegelikkuses oli asi muidugi mõnevõrra teistsugune kui arhiiviallikate
põhjal võiks arvata. Nt Tallinna Kultuuriülikooli toonase direktrissi Luule Miku
(ametis 1959–1967) sõnutsi oli tema juhatatud KÜ kontakt kõrgemalseisvate
üksustega (ENSV Kultuuriministeerium ja ühing „Teadus”) suhteliselt formaalne1159 ning ka järeltulija tema ametis, Maimo Ilves (1967–1999) kinnitas,
et hiljemgi ei olnud partei surve ülemääraselt tuntav ning piirdus peamiselt
EKP linnakomitee-poolse õppekavade kinnitamisega õppeaasta alguses ning
aruandlusega õppeaasta lõpus, samuti ei toimunud mingit ranget kontrolli
esitatud andmete tõelevastavuse üle
// nu sellist mida märgatud oleks...
RKKsid nende üksustena, kes pidid tegelema koguduste „masseerimisega” selle
ülla eesmärgi nimel. 1974. aasta lõpus saatis volinik Piip kõigile RKKdele kirja,
kus ütleb, et „usuühingud täiendavad sellel aastal rahufondi tunduvalt passiivsemalt
kui muidu. Arvestades, et nende annetustest saadavad sissetulekud aastaaastalt
suurenevad, pole Rahufondi kindlustamise ülesandesse passiivne suhtumine
millegagi põhjendatud.” Ta palub RKKdel „tarvitusele võtta mõjutamise
abinõud”, kuid „mõjutamist korraldada delikaatselt ja argumenteeritult, arvestades,
et antud kampaania on usklikesse ja usuühingute tegelastesse kodanikutunde,
nõukogude patriotismi ja sotsialistliku internatsionalismi sisendamise
paremaid vorme”.717 Milliseid mõjutamisvahendeid volinik silmas pidas, ei ole
kahjuks öeldud. 1978. saadab volinik sarnase kirja: „Usukoondistelt rahufondi
laekuvad summad tunduvalt väiksemad kui möödunud aastal”, millist olukorda
ta nimetab „ebanormaalseks” ning nõuab „kaastöökomisjonide tegevuse otsustavat
parandamist sellel alal”: „Palume rakendada mõjutamisabinõud ning
tagada Rahufondi laekumise möödunud aasta taseme tunduva ületamisega.
Seejuures palume arvestada, et laekumise viimaseks tähtpäevaks on 1. detsember”.718
Selle kirjaga seoses juhtus piinlik äpardus Kohtla-Järve TK töötajal, kes ilmselt
pikemalt mõtlemata kasutas sama sõnastust kogudustele saadetud kirjas.
Kiviõli Peetri koguduse juhatuse esimees kirjutab oma vastuses üsna irooniliselt:
„Rahufondi on kogudus annetanud EELK konsistooriumi arvele. Kirjast
jääb selgusetuks lõik „rahufondi kantavad summad peab (?) üle kandma 1. detsembriks.”
Siiani on fond olnud vabatahtlik annetus. Kui on toimunud
muudatus, paluks sellest teada anda.”
--
ERAF 148.86.48, l 3, EKP Tartu LK, Õiendid, aruanded, informatsioonid ja kirjavahetus
väljastatud EKP KK-le, suulise propaganda, poliitinformaatorite töö, parteiharidusvõrgu
tööst, internatsionalismist, kasvatusest, kultuuritöö, välisturismi ja tervishoiu küsimustest,
koolinoorte kommunistlikust kasvatamisest ja suvise koolivaheaja veetmise organiseerimisest
(1974).
67 Uusman, „Mõningaid jooni rahvaülikoolide kujunemisest”, 34. 1168 „International Association ‘Znanie’, History” (http://interznanie.ru/en/pages/id/historyen.html
(27. aprill 2011)
--
Arhiivimaterjalide põhjal on selgelt nähtav EKP soov KÜde süsteem ideologiseerida:
„Kultuuriülikoolide peamine ülesanne on laiade rahvahulkade
kommunistliku teadmise tõstmine, nende ideelis-esteetiline kasvatamine, eesrindliku
kogemuse, teaduse ning tehnika propaganda. Kultuuriülikoolid peavad
kõigiti aitama partei ideelist mõju viia iga inimeseni, arendama kuulajate püüdu
endaharimisele” kinnitavad RÜde organiseerimise materjalid.1153 RÜde põhimäärus
lisab sellele nüansse toonase ideoloogia peasuuna vaimus: eesmärgiks
on „uue inimese kujundamine, tööarmastuse, kollektiivsuse, nõukogude patriotismi
ja proletaarse internatsionalismi kasvatamine”, milliseid teadmisi tuleb
kuulajateni viia populaarteaduslikus vormis.1154 Omal moel oli ideoloogiatöö
seatud ka üheks RÜ olemasolu tingimuseks: „Rahvaülikoolid peavad vastama
järgmistele nõuetele: alatise kuulajaskonna olemasolu, õppetöö kindlate programmide
alusel, kuulajate iseseisva töö organiseerimine, õppetöö ühendamine
kuulajate kommunistliku kasvatusega.”1155 Ka 1962. aasta RÜde TMNi nõupidamisel
rõhutati täiesti selgelt mõtet, et „rahvaülikool pole eriala kvalifikatsiooni
tõstmise asutus, vaid kommunistliku kasvatustöö vorm inimese
mitmekülgsuse arendamiseks”.1156 Neil põhjusil algasid enamike KÜde õppeplaanid
„ühiskondlik-poliitilise tsükliga” (nn „punased” ained), millele järgnesid
üldised ained ning seejärel KÜ spetsiifikast lähtuvalt erialased teemad.
Ideoloogiline osa jäi enamike KÜde õppeplaanis 10–15% piiridesse.1157 Vastuvõetud
otsustele järgnenud suunamuutus viis selleni, et juba mõne aasta pärast
ollaksegi EKP KK PAOs rahul – „rahvaülikoolid on üheks tõhusaimaks ideoloogilise
töö vormiks”.1158
Tegelikkuses oli asi muidugi mõnevõrra teistsugune kui arhiiviallikate
põhjal võiks arvata. Nt Tallinna Kultuuriülikooli toonase direktrissi Luule Miku
(ametis 1959–1967) sõnutsi oli tema juhatatud KÜ kontakt kõrgemalseisvate
üksustega (ENSV Kultuuriministeerium ja ühing „Teadus”) suhteliselt formaalne1159 ning ka järeltulija tema ametis, Maimo Ilves (1967–1999) kinnitas,
et hiljemgi ei olnud partei surve ülemääraselt tuntav ning piirdus peamiselt
EKP linnakomitee-poolse õppekavade kinnitamisega õppeaasta alguses ning
aruandlusega õppeaasta lõpus, samuti ei toimunud mingit ranget kontrolli
esitatud andmete tõelevastavuse üle
// nu sellist mida märgatud oleks...
http://interznanie.ru/en/pages/id/historyen.html
22 March 2018 22:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Internats maailma ajalugu mida Eestlased arvestama peaks:
Religioonivastane võitlus Eesti NSV-s aastail 1957–1990. Tähtsamad institutsioonid ja nende tegevus [Anti-religious struggle in Estonian SSR in 1957–1990. Main institutions and their activities]
http://www.academia.edu/2505943/Religioonivastane_v%C3%B5itlus_Eesti_NSV-s_aastail_1957_1990._T%C3%A4htsamad_institutsioonid_ja_nende_tegevus_Anti-religious_struggle_in_Estonian_SSR_in_1957_1990._Main_institutions_and_their_activities_
„Põhimäärusele” järgnevat aega võib kirjeldada mõneti ambivalentsena:
ühest küljest on märgata järjestikust, kuid väga aeglast erinevate seaduste ja UN
tegevuse leebumist,141 teisalt aga kasvas vangistatud usklike arv dissidentluse
vastu võitlemise tõttu;142 samuti täiendati 1983. aasta 1. oktoobril Vene NFSV
kriminaalkoodeksit – selle artikkel 70 käis „Nõukogudevastase propaganda ja
agitatsiooni” kohta, mille põhiline idee oli selles, et laagritesse saadetuid võidakse
seal hoida igavesti, neid üha uuesti süüdi mõistes.143 Seevastu 1987. aastast
algas suhtumise tuntavam leebumine, milles kindlasti oli oma osa mängida
VÕKi tuhandendal sünnipäeval 1988. aastal. See kulmineerus 1990. aastal uue
religiooniseadustiku väljaandmisega, mis aga poliitilise situ
uatsiooni olulise
muutumise tõttu Eesti olukorda enam kuigivõrd ei mõjutanud
1957. kuni 1991. aastani religiooni- ja ateismiküsimusi kokku 18 korral.
Võrreldes teiste ideoloogiateemadega on tegu täiesti teisejärgulise küsimusega
(nt „internatsionalismile ja nõukogude patriotismile” pühendati alates 1959.
aastast kuni 1989. aastani 39 otsust jne).145 Ateismiteemalised otsused võib
jaotada kolmeks:
a) NLKP resolutsioone kopeerivad või nende instruktsioonide elluviimisega
seotud;
b) reaktsioonid kohalikule olukorrale;
c) kahe esimese liigi kontrollimisega seonduvad, mis üllitati 3–6 aastat pärast
otsuse vastuvõtmist. Kontrollotsused käsitlesid originaalse otsuse täitmist
üldisemalt, kuid tihti oli kontrollimise fookus suunatud mingile konkreetsele
piirkonnale või piirkondadele. Lisaks KK kontrollotsustele toimusid kontrollimised
ka RK/LK tasandil (nt 1962. aasta otsuse täitmist kontrollis EKP
Tartu LK 1964. aasta 26. veebruaril146), selle kohta saadeti vastav informatsioon
KKle, kus andmed viimaks „üldistati” ja tehti järeldused otsuse
täitmise kohta.
--
allpoolasetsevaid ideoloogilise tööga seotud üksusi pommitati pidevalt erinevate
uute propagandateemadega – tähtpäevad ja välispoliitilised küsimused, kommunistlik
kasvatus, nõukogude patriotism, proletaarne internatsionalism vms – siis
oli religioonivastane tegevus, kus kirikute allasurutud tegevuse tõttu silmaga
nähtav vaenlane puudus, enamike jaoks ainult tüütu kohustus saada kirja vastav
plussmärgike kõrgemalseisvate organite ees.182 Näiteks 1971. aasta otsus ei
muutnud peale hetkeks kerkinud ateismiartiklite arvu suurt midagi ei Eestis ega
ka üleliiduliselt – 1974. aastal kaebas Наука и религия, et isegi KK otsus ei ole
mõnede parteiorganisatsioonide jaoks piisav, et ateistlikku tööd elustada.183
Kindlasti mängis siin oma rolli see, et ateistlik tegevus toimus suurel määral
„ühiskondlikel alustel”, mistõttu ateismiteemaliste otsuste efektiivsus taandus
viimaks ikkagi ainult üksikisikute entusiasmile. Sellist mustrit on võimalik
märgata nii EKP kui MN tegevuses ja ei ole erilist vahet, kui kõrgel või madalal
positsioonil käsuliinis tegutseja parasjagu viibis.
Vaadeldes EKP KK rolli religioonivastases võitluses, võib vedada paralleeli
UN voliniku tegevusega: üldine tegevus oli Moskvast suunatud, teatud otsustusvabadus
eksisteeris aga pisiasjades. Seejuures said oluliseks isiklikud kontaktid
NL tasandil otsuste vastuvõtjatega – konverentsidel või seminaridel peetud
vestlused võisid mõjutada poliitika erinevatele nüansside rõhutamist või
pehmendamist.1
--
Nt „Tõelisest ja näilikust südametunnistuse vabadusest [Erinevatest arusaamadest
usutunnistuse vabadusele NSVL-s ja kapitalistlikes riikides]”, Eesti Kommunist, nr 1 (1979).
95
mõjutamise põhimõttest, elastselt rakendada mitmesuguseid vorme ja meetodeid,
et suurendada nimetatutega konsultatiivset koostööd ja kindlustada usklikkonna
aktiivne osavõtt meie riigi sise- ja välispoliitika elluviimisest /…/ jälgida ja
kanda hoolt selle eest, et süveneksid usklike ja mitteusklike, riigiorganite ja
usukoondiste vastastikune usaldus ning korrektsed suhted, et tugevneks kogu
usklikkonnas nõukogude patriotism ja internatsionaalne solidaarsustunne
Religioonivastane võitlus Eesti NSV-s aastail 1957–1990. Tähtsamad institutsioonid ja nende tegevus [Anti-religious struggle in Estonian SSR in 1957–1990. Main institutions and their activities]
http://www.academia.edu/2505943/Religioonivastane_v%C3%B5itlus_Eesti_NSV-s_aastail_1957_1990._T%C3%A4htsamad_institutsioonid_ja_nende_tegevus_Anti-religious_struggle_in_Estonian_SSR_in_1957_1990._Main_institutions_and_their_activities_
„Põhimäärusele” järgnevat aega võib kirjeldada mõneti ambivalentsena:
ühest küljest on märgata järjestikust, kuid väga aeglast erinevate seaduste ja UN
tegevuse leebumist,141 teisalt aga kasvas vangistatud usklike arv dissidentluse
vastu võitlemise tõttu;142 samuti täiendati 1983. aasta 1. oktoobril Vene NFSV
kriminaalkoodeksit – selle artikkel 70 käis „Nõukogudevastase propaganda ja
agitatsiooni” kohta, mille põhiline idee oli selles, et laagritesse saadetuid võidakse
seal hoida igavesti, neid üha uuesti süüdi mõistes.143 Seevastu 1987. aastast
algas suhtumise tuntavam leebumine, milles kindlasti oli oma osa mängida
VÕKi tuhandendal sünnipäeval 1988. aastal. See kulmineerus 1990. aastal uue
religiooniseadustiku väljaandmisega, mis aga poliitilise situ
uatsiooni olulise
muutumise tõttu Eesti olukorda enam kuigivõrd ei mõjutanud
1957. kuni 1991. aastani religiooni- ja ateismiküsimusi kokku 18 korral.
Võrreldes teiste ideoloogiateemadega on tegu täiesti teisejärgulise küsimusega
(nt „internatsionalismile ja nõukogude patriotismile” pühendati alates 1959.
aastast kuni 1989. aastani 39 otsust jne).145 Ateismiteemalised otsused võib
jaotada kolmeks:
a) NLKP resolutsioone kopeerivad või nende instruktsioonide elluviimisega
seotud;
b) reaktsioonid kohalikule olukorrale;
c) kahe esimese liigi kontrollimisega seonduvad, mis üllitati 3–6 aastat pärast
otsuse vastuvõtmist. Kontrollotsused käsitlesid originaalse otsuse täitmist
üldisemalt, kuid tihti oli kontrollimise fookus suunatud mingile konkreetsele
piirkonnale või piirkondadele. Lisaks KK kontrollotsustele toimusid kontrollimised
ka RK/LK tasandil (nt 1962. aasta otsuse täitmist kontrollis EKP
Tartu LK 1964. aasta 26. veebruaril146), selle kohta saadeti vastav informatsioon
KKle, kus andmed viimaks „üldistati” ja tehti järeldused otsuse
täitmise kohta.
--
allpoolasetsevaid ideoloogilise tööga seotud üksusi pommitati pidevalt erinevate
uute propagandateemadega – tähtpäevad ja välispoliitilised küsimused, kommunistlik
kasvatus, nõukogude patriotism, proletaarne internatsionalism vms – siis
oli religioonivastane tegevus, kus kirikute allasurutud tegevuse tõttu silmaga
nähtav vaenlane puudus, enamike jaoks ainult tüütu kohustus saada kirja vastav
plussmärgike kõrgemalseisvate organite ees.182 Näiteks 1971. aasta otsus ei
muutnud peale hetkeks kerkinud ateismiartiklite arvu suurt midagi ei Eestis ega
ka üleliiduliselt – 1974. aastal kaebas Наука и религия, et isegi KK otsus ei ole
mõnede parteiorganisatsioonide jaoks piisav, et ateistlikku tööd elustada.183
Kindlasti mängis siin oma rolli see, et ateistlik tegevus toimus suurel määral
„ühiskondlikel alustel”, mistõttu ateismiteemaliste otsuste efektiivsus taandus
viimaks ikkagi ainult üksikisikute entusiasmile. Sellist mustrit on võimalik
märgata nii EKP kui MN tegevuses ja ei ole erilist vahet, kui kõrgel või madalal
positsioonil käsuliinis tegutseja parasjagu viibis.
Vaadeldes EKP KK rolli religioonivastases võitluses, võib vedada paralleeli
UN voliniku tegevusega: üldine tegevus oli Moskvast suunatud, teatud otsustusvabadus
eksisteeris aga pisiasjades. Seejuures said oluliseks isiklikud kontaktid
NL tasandil otsuste vastuvõtjatega – konverentsidel või seminaridel peetud
vestlused võisid mõjutada poliitika erinevatele nüansside rõhutamist või
pehmendamist.1
--
Nt „Tõelisest ja näilikust südametunnistuse vabadusest [Erinevatest arusaamadest
usutunnistuse vabadusele NSVL-s ja kapitalistlikes riikides]”, Eesti Kommunist, nr 1 (1979).
95
mõjutamise põhimõttest, elastselt rakendada mitmesuguseid vorme ja meetodeid,
et suurendada nimetatutega konsultatiivset koostööd ja kindlustada usklikkonna
aktiivne osavõtt meie riigi sise- ja välispoliitika elluviimisest /…/ jälgida ja
kanda hoolt selle eest, et süveneksid usklike ja mitteusklike, riigiorganite ja
usukoondiste vastastikune usaldus ning korrektsed suhted, et tugevneks kogu
usklikkonnas nõukogude patriotism ja internatsionaalne solidaarsustunne
http://www.academia.edu/2505943/Religioonivastane_v%C3%B5itlus_Eesti_NSV-s_aastail_1957_1990._T%C3%A4htsamad_institutsioonid_ja_nende_tegevus_Anti-religious_struggle_in_Estonian_SSR_in_1957_1990._Main_institutions_and_their_activities_
22 March 2018 22:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.militaar.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=11543&start=690
Selline artikkel hakkas silma. Algus on enam-vähem, paneb edasi lugema, aga suht ruttu läheb üpris jäledaks kätte. Ekstravastikuks teeb kirjutise see, et autor oleks nagu meeletult sallival seisukohal, aga see ei takista üsna üheselt näitamast, kes võimalikus konfliktis süüdi on.:
http://www.vikerkaar.ee/archives/22509
„Pronksiööde“ tõlgendamine oli veel üks piisk siinsete venelaste nördimuskarikasse. Postimehe toimetuse juhtkiri „Tundmatu vene pätt“ solvas mind ja minutaolisi kahekordselt: esiteks, paralleeli kaudu tundmatu sõduriga (Teise maailmasõja kangelasi käsitletakse eesti natsionalistlikus kontekstis samuti kui kurjategijaid või parimal juhul kui „pätte“), teiseks, rahvuse pinnal tehtud üldistusega tervikuna. Esimene „pronksiöö“ oma puruks pekstud vitriinidega oli internatsionaalne sündmus: nendest, keda politsei kinni pidas, oli eestlasi iga kolmas (!). Palju parema seletuse leiab kõik sotsiaal-majanduslikus koordinaatsüsteemis: linna rüüstama tulid kõige vaesemad, venelasi oligi nende seas rohkem, kuid nad polnud sugugi eranditult venelased. Teisel „pronksiööl“ kasutasid vägivalda eeskätt õiguskaitsejõud – ma olin neil tundidel Tallinna kesklinnas ja nägin seda kõike oma silmaga
Selline artikkel hakkas silma. Algus on enam-vähem, paneb edasi lugema, aga suht ruttu läheb üpris jäledaks kätte. Ekstravastikuks teeb kirjutise see, et autor oleks nagu meeletult sallival seisukohal, aga see ei takista üsna üheselt näitamast, kes võimalikus konfliktis süüdi on.:
http://www.vikerkaar.ee/archives/22509
„Pronksiööde“ tõlgendamine oli veel üks piisk siinsete venelaste nördimuskarikasse. Postimehe toimetuse juhtkiri „Tundmatu vene pätt“ solvas mind ja minutaolisi kahekordselt: esiteks, paralleeli kaudu tundmatu sõduriga (Teise maailmasõja kangelasi käsitletakse eesti natsionalistlikus kontekstis samuti kui kurjategijaid või parimal juhul kui „pätte“), teiseks, rahvuse pinnal tehtud üldistusega tervikuna. Esimene „pronksiöö“ oma puruks pekstud vitriinidega oli internatsionaalne sündmus: nendest, keda politsei kinni pidas, oli eestlasi iga kolmas (!). Palju parema seletuse leiab kõik sotsiaal-majanduslikus koordinaatsüsteemis: linna rüüstama tulid kõige vaesemad, venelasi oligi nende seas rohkem, kuid nad polnud sugugi eranditult venelased. Teisel „pronksiööl“ kasutasid vägivalda eeskätt õiguskaitsejõud – ma olin neil tundidel Tallinna kesklinnas ja nägin seda kõike oma silmaga
http://www.militaar.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=11543&start=690
22 March 2018 22:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.militaar.net/phpBB2/search.php?keywords=internatsionaal&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Otsi
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"... millegipärast slaavi sõjalaulud hingelähedasemad. Vist annab lapsepõlv tunda, siis tuli revolutsioonilisi laule söögi alla ja söögi peale. "Internatsionaal", "Julgesti vennad nüüd tööle", "Warszawianka". Igatahes üks rammus kivi selle eest Nõukogude võimu kapsaaeda. ..."
Teema: Kas N Liidus oli ka midagi head?
"... summad, mida pumbati sotsmaadesse ja muudesse "Kommunismi ehitavatesse arengumaadesse" (Kuuba jms) ning kapmaade komparteidesse (Internatsionaal!). Oli huvitav jälgida missugused riigid pärast NSVL lagunemist praktiliselt kokku kukkusid või omadega p**** läksid ning millistes ..."
Teema: Mark Solonin: "Rahulikult magavatel lennuväljadel"
"... inimesed kõige erinevamatest rassidest, erinevate usutunnistuse ja keeltega. 1940 aastal võitles Inglismaa taevas tõeline “antifašistlik internatsionaal”. RAF-i lendurite hulgas oli poolakaid, tšehhe, prantslasi, uus-meremaalasi, austraallasi, lõuna-aaafriklasi, kanadalasi...resultatiivsuse ..."
Teema: Monument
"... paidelastele kauaks meelde. Sel päeval avati suure pidulikkusega mälestusmärk Kod. sõja kang. Punaarmee kom. Joh. Raudmetsale... Partei hümniga "Internatsionaal" lõppes pidulik miiting Lembitu pargis."
Teema: Oleksoloogia: Reich vs Impeerium
"... kuulnud 'maailmarev-st', Veltu? Eur. oli nimelt 1väike osa suurest plaanist, mida bolševikud avalikult haudusid oma võimule tulekust saadik. Komm.Internatsionaal oli loodud justnimelt selleks otstarbeks ja kulus ta peale mitte just kõige väiksem summa väärt raha :roll:"
Teema pealkiri: Re: Mis Ukrainas toimub?
"Putini 6-s internatsionaal http://aillarionov.livejournal.com/687515.html Urmas Paet ja Edgar Savisaar samas pundis tuntud pro-RUS tegelastega Paet ilmselt piirilepingu sõlmimise pärast on punti võetud. Vahepeal keegi sõimas Paeti ..."
Et juttu jätkuks Teema: Nali
"... väär. Kuigi jah, neid sotsialiste kelle poolt Eestis valida nagu eriti ei ole - olemasolevatel liiga kommunistlik mekk juures, nagu imperialistlik internatsionaal. Hingelt kipun olema pigem ikkagi rahvuslane. (.... ja pigem ikkagi sotsialist. (hm, ajaloos on midagi sellist vist juba olnud.)) :)
"... mil Saksamaa liiga nurka suruti. Mida teeb aga nurkaaetud kiskja? Muidugi võib ka öelda, et uus maailmasõda oli sisse kirjutatud ka N Liidu internatsionaal-kommunismi, Hitleri "Mein Kamfi". Tegelikult on needki kaudselt-otseselt I maailmasõja lõpu ja Varsaille tulemid. Kuigi paljud ..."
Teema pealkiri: Re: Eesti poliitelu eile, täna ja homme
".. „reaktsiooniline“ alla (võrdle: bolševistlik „kontrevolutsionäär“, „valgekaartlane“). Revolutsiooniline mentaliteet, marksism, globaalne internatsionaal ja antikapitalism on saanud meie osade kultuuri- ja ka teadusringkondade elutunnetuse normaalseks osaks. Vahe tuleb küll ehk sisse selles, ..."
Teema pealkiri: Re: Süüria (kodusõda)
"... hea foorumikaaslase poolt tõlgitud Vince Flynni raamatut. Lisaks Iisrael, Türgi Erdogani AKP alias Türgi Moslemivennaskond alias Islamistlik Internatsionaal, lisaks Iraan. Jätaks suured mängijad hetkel kõrvale. Vaatasin just The Independent artiklit "Anti-Soviet warrior puts it's army ..."
Teema pealkiri: Re: Põgeniketulv Euroopasse
"... month. ... ## Türgi veab viisavabalt aafrikast sisse, et need saaksid edasi Euroopasse kulgeda. ## Sultan Erdogani Moslemivennaskond alias Moslemi Internatsionaal tegutseb."
"!Tehnika- ja sümboolikaspetsialistid, üks Lätist pärit internatsionaal istub ühe suurtükiväemasina tormis. Mis üksuse taktikalise märgiga on tegemist? Tuletab meelde 42 мсд märki, mis ole ring kolmnurga sees, kuid siin pildid on kolmnurgal augud. Kas ..."
Teema pealkiri: Re: Mis Ukrainas toimub? vol.2
".. jätkuvalt. See oli ju selge, et ukrainlased valetavad. Muidu oleksid nad ammu uputanud interneti klippide ja fotodega mäest. Aga siin on " internatsionaal". Ja polegi väga halb muusika . Vähemalt korra võib kuulata :lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMiyGZD6R0 Anna andeks aga siiani ..."
Teema: Militaarmuusika.
"... millegipärast slaavi sõjalaulud hingelähedasemad. Vist annab lapsepõlv tunda, siis tuli revolutsioonilisi laule söögi alla ja söögi peale. "Internatsionaal", "Julgesti vennad nüüd tööle", "Warszawianka". Igatahes üks rammus kivi selle eest Nõukogude võimu kapsaaeda. ..."
Teema: Kas N Liidus oli ka midagi head?
"... summad, mida pumbati sotsmaadesse ja muudesse "Kommunismi ehitavatesse arengumaadesse" (Kuuba jms) ning kapmaade komparteidesse (Internatsionaal!). Oli huvitav jälgida missugused riigid pärast NSVL lagunemist praktiliselt kokku kukkusid või omadega p**** läksid ning millistes ..."
Teema: Mark Solonin: "Rahulikult magavatel lennuväljadel"
"... inimesed kõige erinevamatest rassidest, erinevate usutunnistuse ja keeltega. 1940 aastal võitles Inglismaa taevas tõeline “antifašistlik internatsionaal”. RAF-i lendurite hulgas oli poolakaid, tšehhe, prantslasi, uus-meremaalasi, austraallasi, lõuna-aaafriklasi, kanadalasi...resultatiivsuse ..."
Teema: Monument
"... paidelastele kauaks meelde. Sel päeval avati suure pidulikkusega mälestusmärk Kod. sõja kang. Punaarmee kom. Joh. Raudmetsale... Partei hümniga "Internatsionaal" lõppes pidulik miiting Lembitu pargis."
Teema: Oleksoloogia: Reich vs Impeerium
"... kuulnud 'maailmarev-st', Veltu? Eur. oli nimelt 1väike osa suurest plaanist, mida bolševikud avalikult haudusid oma võimule tulekust saadik. Komm.Internatsionaal oli loodud justnimelt selleks otstarbeks ja kulus ta peale mitte just kõige väiksem summa väärt raha :roll:"
http://www.militaar.net/phpBB2/search.php?keywords=internatsionaal&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Otsi
22 March 2018 22:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Pahemliberaalse internatsionaali ulg peale Martin Helme poolt riigikogu puldis maha peetud kõnet näitab:
http://www.w3.ee/openarticle.php?id=2665646&lang=est
1) milliste retooriliste liialdusteni peab vanal heal Eesti- ja Liivimaal üks riigikogu liige alanduma, et kohtuvõimu kuritarvitustele avalikku tähelepanu tõmmata;
2) seda, kui tuim, tumm ja tömp on meie nomenklatuur siis, kui oleks vaja ise oma elementaarseid kohustusi täita, kuid otsest vajadust selleks nagu pole.
Kui kohtuvõimu väärkasutus kulgeb valitsevale ideoloogiale soodsas suunas, pole katki midagi.
Häält hakatakse tegema alles siis, kui keegi ütleb selgelt välja, et meil Eestis on võimude lahususe printsiibiga väga tõsised probleemid ja kohtunikud peaksid oma tegude eest vastutust kandma. Siis asub nomenklatuur ringkaitsele ja süüdistab Helmet täpselt selles, milles ise on süüdi: võimude lahususe printsiibi rikkumises.
Mis asi on võimude lahususe põhimõte? See on moodsa demokraatliku ja vabariikliku ühiskonna dogma, mille esimene formulatsioon pärineb Charles de Montesquieu’lt. Võimude lahususe printsiibi järgi võtab rahvaesindus vastu seadusi, täidesaatev võim toimib nende seaduste alusel ja viib neid ellu, kohtuvõim langetab aga otsuseid oma pädevuse piires, vastavalt seadusandja poolt sätestatule.
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http://www.w3.ee/openarticle.php?id=2665646&lang=est
1) milliste retooriliste liialdusteni peab vanal heal Eesti- ja Liivimaal üks riigikogu liige alanduma, et kohtuvõimu kuritarvitustele avalikku tähelepanu tõmmata;
2) seda, kui tuim, tumm ja tömp on meie nomenklatuur siis, kui oleks vaja ise oma elementaarseid kohustusi täita, kuid otsest vajadust selleks nagu pole.
Kui kohtuvõimu väärkasutus kulgeb valitsevale ideoloogiale soodsas suunas, pole katki midagi.
Häält hakatakse tegema alles siis, kui keegi ütleb selgelt välja, et meil Eestis on võimude lahususe printsiibiga väga tõsised probleemid ja kohtunikud peaksid oma tegude eest vastutust kandma. Siis asub nomenklatuur ringkaitsele ja süüdistab Helmet täpselt selles, milles ise on süüdi: võimude lahususe printsiibi rikkumises.
Mis asi on võimude lahususe põhimõte? See on moodsa demokraatliku ja vabariikliku ühiskonna dogma, mille esimene formulatsioon pärineb Charles de Montesquieu’lt. Võimude lahususe printsiibi järgi võtab rahvaesindus vastu seadusi, täidesaatev võim toimib nende seaduste alusel ja viib neid ellu, kohtuvõim langetab aga otsuseid oma pädevuse piires, vastavalt seadusandja poolt sätestatule.
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http://www.w3.ee/openarticle.php?id=2665646&lang=est
22 March 2018 22:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//järg//
Euroliit kui eelviimane vaheetapp ülemaailmsele impeeriumile
Ülemaailmse impeeriumi konkreetne realisatsioon on Euroopa Liit, mis, nagu asjasse pühendatud üsnagi ühemõtteliselt vihjavad, pole muud kui ainult eelviimane vaheetapp teel ülemaailmsele impeeriumile. Tegu pole mingi riikide liidu või konföderatsiooniga, vaid kavakindlalt liitriigi – Euroopa Ühendriikide – suunas kujundatava moodustisega oma presidendi, põhiseaduse, ühtse välispoliitika, valitsuse ja muuga. Jutud riikide liidust on ainult pettevahendiks Euroopa riikide rahvaste sissemeelitamisel Euroopa Liitu, kuna nende riikide ammu äraostetud ja korrumpeerunud poliitilis-majanduslikule eliidile on euroliidu suundumus liitriigi moodustamisele tavaliselt teada. (Enne nn Lissaboni leppedokumendi Riigikogus ratifitseerimist selgus, et 4/5 rahvasaadikuist ei olnud euroliidu põhiseadust isegi mitte läbi lugenud- lähtuti vaid Brüsseli peremeeste “soovitusest”! – Autor.)
Rahvuslik vastupanuliikumine – tõsiseim vasasseis Maailma Uuele Korrale!
Uue maailmakorra loojate suurimaiks vaenlasteks tänapäeva Euroopas peetakse rahvuslikku joont ajavaid poliitikuid ja organisatsioone, kes tihtilugu on muutunud tülikaiks segajaiks rahvusriikide mahamüümisel Suure Raha valitsusele.
Sellekohaseid näiteid on kaasaegses Euroopas küllaga, markantseimaks Prantsusmaal juhtunu 2002. aastal, mil presidendivalimiste eelvoorus oli edukas endisest eriüksuslasest langevarjur, Rahvusrinde kandidaat Jean-Marie Le Pen. Tema poolt andis oma hääle esimeses hääletusvoorus 4,8 miljonit prantslast. Praeguse europarlamendi saadiku rahvuslase Le Peni radikaalsed plaanid presidendiks saades olnuks eurost loobumine ja frangi kui rahvusvaluuta taastamine, Prantsusmaa lahkumine Euroopa Liidust, majandustõkked Prantsuse tööstuse kaitseks, halastamatu võitlus kuritegevusega ja surmanuhtluse taastamine ning immigratsiooni oluline piiramine.
Kuigi Le Peni vastaskandidaati, presidenditoolil istuvat Jacques Chiraci süüdistati avalikult korruptsioonis, valetamises ja riigi raha varguses, suutsid rahvuslase võimuletuleku hirmus vabamüürlased ühendada Chiraci eest hääletama nii vasakpoolsed (sotsialistid, kommunistid) kui ka end parempoolseteks nimetavad liberaalid.
Täiskäigul pandi Le Peni halvustama ja laimama Suurele Rahale alluv televisioon, raadio ja ajalehed. Vabamüürlaste mõju all olev ajakirjandus hakkas maalima verdtarretavaid pilte sellest, mis Prantsusmaal väidetavalt toimuma hakkab, kui riigi etteotsa valitakse “fašist”. Massiteabe poolt ärapeedistatud valija eelistaski hääletuskastide juures “demokraati”, pikemalt arutlemata, et tegu on tuntud petise ja riigivargaga. Kuna rahvaste ehk n-ö keskmise kodaniku mõttevõime on ajalooliselt tõestatuna olnud aastasadade vältel üsnagi algeline, seetõttu toimis ka Prantsusmaal massiivne ajupesu ja laim.
Visioon Auschwitzi tossavatest krematooriumikorstendest oli tugevam kui kaine mõistus ja rahvuslik alalhoiuinstinkt. Mistõttu valiti “demokraatlikult” ühe mõjukaima Euroopa Liidu liikmesprovintsi etteotsa Bilderbergi Klubi liige ja Euroopa suurima vabamüürlaslooži Alpina “vend”, 33. kraadi kõrgvabamüürlane Jacques Chirac, kes on maailma uue korra arhitektide vennaskonnas üks mõjukamaid liikmeid. (Arusaadavatel põhjustel ei kirjuta ajakirjandus midagi Eestis tegutsevatest vabamüürlasloožidest, mille liikmete hulka kuulub ka enamus meie poliitilisest eliidist. – Autor.)
Äeapeedistatud ajudega lumpenit hirmutatakse fašismiga
“Fašisti” või “natsi” märgi otsaette löömine või natslike koonduslaagrite jubeduste meenutamine on Euroopas tavaline “demokraatlik traditsioon”, kui tahetakse rahvuslaste eest mõtlemisvõimetuid kodanikke hirmutada. Tarvitses vaid Hollandi poliitikuile selgeks saada, et rahvas ei kiida heaks Euroopa Liidu liitriigiks muutuvat põhiseadust, kui “demokraadist” peaminister Jan Peter Balkenende asus referendumi eel hollandlasi hirmutama “naasmisega Auschwitzi”.
On ju rahvuslaste eesmärgiks rahvusriikide säilimine ning oma rahvuse eelistamine (mida Euroopas uue maailmakorra käsilaste poolt natsismiks sildistatakse), selle edasikestmise eest võitlemine. Uue maailmakorra eest võitlejate eesmärgid on paraku risti vastupidised rahvuslastele – hävitada nii rahvusriigid kui põrmu tallata rahvuste püüe säiluda, maha surude igasugune rahvuslik vastupanu. Selle eesmärgi nimel kasutatakse võimukartellidele allutatud massiteabekanaleid kui ka algselt põhiseadusliku korra kaitseks loodud kaitsepolitseide struktuure, millest tehtud orwellilik poliitiline meelsuspolitsei, mis nuhib riigi kodanike järel. (Sellekohaseid näiteid on küllaga Eesti kohta siinsamal lehistul. – Autor.)
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Internet kui orwellilik Kõikenägev Silm!
USA valitsus teatas juba 1997. aastal plaanist eraldada 500 miljonit dollarit üleriigilise arvutivõrgu loomiseks. Eeldatakse, et iga eluasemeks olev hoone varustatakse arvutiga, mis on kohustuslikus korras ühendatud internetivõrku. Arvuti kaudu on võimalik jälgida kodaniku kodus toimuvat, peo peal on ebalojaalseks isikuks peetava subjekti rahalised sissetulekud jne. Interneti kaudu teostatakse arveldusi panga ja maksusüsteemiga, peetakse kirjavahetust (mida on võimalik kontrollida), valitakse võimuorganeid (mida on võimalik võltsida), mängitakse mõtlemis- ja analüüsivõimet vähendavaid videomänge (mida eriti noorte zombistamise pärast muret tundvad korporatsioonid hulganisti toodavad). Senisest informatsiooni- ja suhtlemisallikast on ammu saanud isiku üle totaalse jälgimise süsteem – tõeline orwellilik Kõikenägev Silm. (Kas meie IT-võimekuse taga on kergendada Tädi Maalide elu? Miks samavõrdselt ei muretseta, et needsamad Tädi Maalid ei saa kasutada maal ühistrantspordi, posti või poeteenuseid? – Autor.)
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Vastupanu totaalsele orjusele tugevneb iga päevaga!
Paraku on rahvastel, vähemalt nende mõtleval osal, vaatamata massiteabe poolt tehtavale ajupesule, veel säilinud terved arusaamad eetikast ja moraalist. Alati leidub neid, kes ei taha sulanduda orjade massi – ei soovi “elada nagu kõik teised”, langeda mõtlemisvõimetute loomade tasemele. Totaalsele ajupesule ja zombiseerimisele vaatamata on veel piisava ajumahuga inimesi, kes suudavad “demokraatlikke printsiipe” reklaamiva propaganda eesmärgid läbi näha.
Viimasel aastakümnel, mil uue maailmakorra eest võitlejad on oma rünnakuid tugevdanud, on hakanud ühinema ka uue maailmakorra vastased üle maailma. Seesama internet, mida kasutatakse inimeste jälgimiseks ja zombistamiseks, annab paraku ka küllalt võimalusi vastupanuks Maailma Uue Korra arhitektidele ja kohalikele käsutäitjatele, levitades vastavasisulist informatsiooni. Pärssides sel moel uue maailmakorra ehitajate ja nende lakeide pürgimisi tõkestada inimeste juurdeoääsu objektiivsele informatsioonile. Paljud internetilehistud, blogid ja levivad videofilmid tunnistavad, et vastupanu suureneb iga päevaga. Eks ERSP lehistugi püüab täita sama ülesannet – informeerida neid, kellele on vastu hakanud valitsusparteidele allutatud, inimesi lumpeniseeriva ajakirjanduse ajupesu. (Ei tea, miks meie telekanalid eiravad selliseid internetis massiliselt levitatavaid filme nagu “Zeitgeist” või miks vaikitakse maha Nõmme Raadio? – Autor)
// Vb. selle sügavalt punase tausta pärast? // - Margus Meigo.
Euroliit kui eelviimane vaheetapp ülemaailmsele impeeriumile
Ülemaailmse impeeriumi konkreetne realisatsioon on Euroopa Liit, mis, nagu asjasse pühendatud üsnagi ühemõtteliselt vihjavad, pole muud kui ainult eelviimane vaheetapp teel ülemaailmsele impeeriumile. Tegu pole mingi riikide liidu või konföderatsiooniga, vaid kavakindlalt liitriigi – Euroopa Ühendriikide – suunas kujundatava moodustisega oma presidendi, põhiseaduse, ühtse välispoliitika, valitsuse ja muuga. Jutud riikide liidust on ainult pettevahendiks Euroopa riikide rahvaste sissemeelitamisel Euroopa Liitu, kuna nende riikide ammu äraostetud ja korrumpeerunud poliitilis-majanduslikule eliidile on euroliidu suundumus liitriigi moodustamisele tavaliselt teada. (Enne nn Lissaboni leppedokumendi Riigikogus ratifitseerimist selgus, et 4/5 rahvasaadikuist ei olnud euroliidu põhiseadust isegi mitte läbi lugenud- lähtuti vaid Brüsseli peremeeste “soovitusest”! – Autor.)
Rahvuslik vastupanuliikumine – tõsiseim vasasseis Maailma Uuele Korrale!
Uue maailmakorra loojate suurimaiks vaenlasteks tänapäeva Euroopas peetakse rahvuslikku joont ajavaid poliitikuid ja organisatsioone, kes tihtilugu on muutunud tülikaiks segajaiks rahvusriikide mahamüümisel Suure Raha valitsusele.
Sellekohaseid näiteid on kaasaegses Euroopas küllaga, markantseimaks Prantsusmaal juhtunu 2002. aastal, mil presidendivalimiste eelvoorus oli edukas endisest eriüksuslasest langevarjur, Rahvusrinde kandidaat Jean-Marie Le Pen. Tema poolt andis oma hääle esimeses hääletusvoorus 4,8 miljonit prantslast. Praeguse europarlamendi saadiku rahvuslase Le Peni radikaalsed plaanid presidendiks saades olnuks eurost loobumine ja frangi kui rahvusvaluuta taastamine, Prantsusmaa lahkumine Euroopa Liidust, majandustõkked Prantsuse tööstuse kaitseks, halastamatu võitlus kuritegevusega ja surmanuhtluse taastamine ning immigratsiooni oluline piiramine.
Kuigi Le Peni vastaskandidaati, presidenditoolil istuvat Jacques Chiraci süüdistati avalikult korruptsioonis, valetamises ja riigi raha varguses, suutsid rahvuslase võimuletuleku hirmus vabamüürlased ühendada Chiraci eest hääletama nii vasakpoolsed (sotsialistid, kommunistid) kui ka end parempoolseteks nimetavad liberaalid.
Täiskäigul pandi Le Peni halvustama ja laimama Suurele Rahale alluv televisioon, raadio ja ajalehed. Vabamüürlaste mõju all olev ajakirjandus hakkas maalima verdtarretavaid pilte sellest, mis Prantsusmaal väidetavalt toimuma hakkab, kui riigi etteotsa valitakse “fašist”. Massiteabe poolt ärapeedistatud valija eelistaski hääletuskastide juures “demokraati”, pikemalt arutlemata, et tegu on tuntud petise ja riigivargaga. Kuna rahvaste ehk n-ö keskmise kodaniku mõttevõime on ajalooliselt tõestatuna olnud aastasadade vältel üsnagi algeline, seetõttu toimis ka Prantsusmaal massiivne ajupesu ja laim.
Visioon Auschwitzi tossavatest krematooriumikorstendest oli tugevam kui kaine mõistus ja rahvuslik alalhoiuinstinkt. Mistõttu valiti “demokraatlikult” ühe mõjukaima Euroopa Liidu liikmesprovintsi etteotsa Bilderbergi Klubi liige ja Euroopa suurima vabamüürlaslooži Alpina “vend”, 33. kraadi kõrgvabamüürlane Jacques Chirac, kes on maailma uue korra arhitektide vennaskonnas üks mõjukamaid liikmeid. (Arusaadavatel põhjustel ei kirjuta ajakirjandus midagi Eestis tegutsevatest vabamüürlasloožidest, mille liikmete hulka kuulub ka enamus meie poliitilisest eliidist. – Autor.)
Äeapeedistatud ajudega lumpenit hirmutatakse fašismiga
“Fašisti” või “natsi” märgi otsaette löömine või natslike koonduslaagrite jubeduste meenutamine on Euroopas tavaline “demokraatlik traditsioon”, kui tahetakse rahvuslaste eest mõtlemisvõimetuid kodanikke hirmutada. Tarvitses vaid Hollandi poliitikuile selgeks saada, et rahvas ei kiida heaks Euroopa Liidu liitriigiks muutuvat põhiseadust, kui “demokraadist” peaminister Jan Peter Balkenende asus referendumi eel hollandlasi hirmutama “naasmisega Auschwitzi”.
On ju rahvuslaste eesmärgiks rahvusriikide säilimine ning oma rahvuse eelistamine (mida Euroopas uue maailmakorra käsilaste poolt natsismiks sildistatakse), selle edasikestmise eest võitlemine. Uue maailmakorra eest võitlejate eesmärgid on paraku risti vastupidised rahvuslastele – hävitada nii rahvusriigid kui põrmu tallata rahvuste püüe säiluda, maha surude igasugune rahvuslik vastupanu. Selle eesmärgi nimel kasutatakse võimukartellidele allutatud massiteabekanaleid kui ka algselt põhiseadusliku korra kaitseks loodud kaitsepolitseide struktuure, millest tehtud orwellilik poliitiline meelsuspolitsei, mis nuhib riigi kodanike järel. (Sellekohaseid näiteid on küllaga Eesti kohta siinsamal lehistul. – Autor.)
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Internet kui orwellilik Kõikenägev Silm!
USA valitsus teatas juba 1997. aastal plaanist eraldada 500 miljonit dollarit üleriigilise arvutivõrgu loomiseks. Eeldatakse, et iga eluasemeks olev hoone varustatakse arvutiga, mis on kohustuslikus korras ühendatud internetivõrku. Arvuti kaudu on võimalik jälgida kodaniku kodus toimuvat, peo peal on ebalojaalseks isikuks peetava subjekti rahalised sissetulekud jne. Interneti kaudu teostatakse arveldusi panga ja maksusüsteemiga, peetakse kirjavahetust (mida on võimalik kontrollida), valitakse võimuorganeid (mida on võimalik võltsida), mängitakse mõtlemis- ja analüüsivõimet vähendavaid videomänge (mida eriti noorte zombistamise pärast muret tundvad korporatsioonid hulganisti toodavad). Senisest informatsiooni- ja suhtlemisallikast on ammu saanud isiku üle totaalse jälgimise süsteem – tõeline orwellilik Kõikenägev Silm. (Kas meie IT-võimekuse taga on kergendada Tädi Maalide elu? Miks samavõrdselt ei muretseta, et needsamad Tädi Maalid ei saa kasutada maal ühistrantspordi, posti või poeteenuseid? – Autor.)
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Vastupanu totaalsele orjusele tugevneb iga päevaga!
Paraku on rahvastel, vähemalt nende mõtleval osal, vaatamata massiteabe poolt tehtavale ajupesule, veel säilinud terved arusaamad eetikast ja moraalist. Alati leidub neid, kes ei taha sulanduda orjade massi – ei soovi “elada nagu kõik teised”, langeda mõtlemisvõimetute loomade tasemele. Totaalsele ajupesule ja zombiseerimisele vaatamata on veel piisava ajumahuga inimesi, kes suudavad “demokraatlikke printsiipe” reklaamiva propaganda eesmärgid läbi näha.
Viimasel aastakümnel, mil uue maailmakorra eest võitlejad on oma rünnakuid tugevdanud, on hakanud ühinema ka uue maailmakorra vastased üle maailma. Seesama internet, mida kasutatakse inimeste jälgimiseks ja zombistamiseks, annab paraku ka küllalt võimalusi vastupanuks Maailma Uue Korra arhitektidele ja kohalikele käsutäitjatele, levitades vastavasisulist informatsiooni. Pärssides sel moel uue maailmakorra ehitajate ja nende lakeide pürgimisi tõkestada inimeste juurdeoääsu objektiivsele informatsioonile. Paljud internetilehistud, blogid ja levivad videofilmid tunnistavad, et vastupanu suureneb iga päevaga. Eks ERSP lehistugi püüab täita sama ülesannet – informeerida neid, kellele on vastu hakanud valitsusparteidele allutatud, inimesi lumpeniseeriva ajakirjanduse ajupesu. (Ei tea, miks meie telekanalid eiravad selliseid internetis massiliselt levitatavaid filme nagu “Zeitgeist” või miks vaikitakse maha Nõmme Raadio? – Autor)
// Vb. selle sügavalt punase tausta pärast? // - Margus Meigo.
22 March 2018 22:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Suts punasemat:
https://ok-blogs.in/V1/sfspuhcunqqauqnjuq/puidu-kyttega-auto,ilma-bensiini-diislita-ja-elektrimootorita-auto.mobile
http://olink.pm/http://rahvuslane.blogspot.com/2011/06/tiit-madisson-maailma-uus-kord-selle.html
http://ounapuu.ee/2011/06/tiit-madisson-maailma-uus-kord-selle-kehtestajad-ja-nende-kasutaitjad-eestis/
http://elektritsaabtasuta.blogspot.com.ee/2013/04/tiit-madisson-maailma-uus-kord-selle.html
"Vello Leito: Teadmiste kohustuslik miinimum Eesti riigi ja rahva ärakustutamise avaliku salaplaani kohta"
Mida endast kujutab Maailma Valitsus?
Ekslik on arvata, et juba aastakümneid maailma poliitikat suunav ja jõuliselt uut maailmakorda ( New World Oder) ülesehitav Maailma Valitsus on väikesearvuline, kellegi poolt valitav nõukogu. Maailma valitsusest rääkides peetakse esmalt silmas kolme mõjuvõimsat internatsionaalset organisatsiooni: Rahvusvaheliste Suhete Nõukogu (Council of Foreign Relations), Bilderbergi Klubi (Bilderberger Club) ja Kolmepoolse Komisjoni (Trilateral Commission). Viimase liige oli enne Kadrioru lossi kolimist ka Eesti praegune president Toomas H. Ilves.
Väga mõjuvõimsat osa maailma poliitika suunamisel etendab ka sionistlik vabamüürlasorganisatsioon B´nai B´rith, kellelt “jaa”-sõna saamata ei võeta ühtki riiki nt NATO liikmeks. Omaaegne peaminister Siim Kallas külastas just sel eesmärgil New Yorki, millest ükski Eesti ajaleht ei pidanud vajalikuks kirjutada, siinkirjutaja kuulis sellest paar korda 6. juulil 2002 raadios vilksatanud BNS-i uudisest. (Selle visiidi tulemusel kehtestas Eesti valitsus holokaustipäeva ametlikult tähistatavaks tähtpäevaks, mis oli üheks eeltingimuseks Põhja-Atlandi kaitseühenduse liikmeks saamiseks?! – Autor.)
Maailma Uue Korra loojate eesmärk?
Uue maailmakorra loojate eesmärgiks on kaotada maailmast igasugune poliitiline iseseisvus ning koondada kõik rahvad ühe valitsuse võimu alla. Silmakirjaliku demokraatia loosungi taha varjunute eesmärgiks pole mitte kõigi elanikkonnaklasside huvide eest seismine, vaid pigem nende veenmine, et pole muud võimalust kui allutada enda elulised huvid pankade ja suurkorporatsioonide “demokraatlikule” võimule. Nende huve esindavad kohalikud, end naha ja karvadega globalistidele mahamüünud poliitikud. Sellesama eesmärgi nimel on ka Eesti ajakirjanduses korduvalt läbi uue maailmakorra klakööride kirjutatud, et globaliseerumise protsess on vääramatu, mistõttu sellele vastuhakkamine on järelikult üks rumal ja lootusetu ettevõtmine. (Ilmselt sellepärast ongi Eesti globaliseerumise tasemelt viie maailma “edukaima” riigi hulgas, sest vastupanu rahvaste orjastajate plaanile Maarjamaaks kutsutud maalapil sisuliselt puudub! – Autor.)
Rahvuslikud eliidid on mandunud Maailma Uue Korra loojate lakeideks?
Kui varem olid Euroopa rahvaste rahvuslikud eliidid rahvuse huvide eest võitlemise eesliinil, siis praegusel ajal püüab raha-, poliitiline- ja vaimueliit muganduda ühtsesse globalistlikku süsteemi. Euroopa rahvaste poliitilisest, tavaliselt ka majandus- ja kultuurieliidist on saanud salajase internatsionaali liige või lihtsalt selle käsilane, kui tegu nt postkommunistliku Ida-Euroopa riikidega, kelle hulgast erilise püüdlikkusega paistab silma Eesti. Tänapäeva eliit kujutab endast üha rohkem suletud internatsionaalset klubi oma korporatiivse eetikaga, millel pole midagi ühist kodanikueetikaga, millele on olnud traditsiooniliselt omane püüe tagada oma rahvusele parem käekäik. Demokraatia mõiste on libekeelsete poliitikute ja manipuleeritava massiteabe poolt ammuilma diskrediteeritud ja kaotanud oma algse tähenduse. (Kus on meie omaaegne Loomeliitude Nõukogu? Miks me midagi ei kuule meie intelligentsi võitlusest eesti rahva püsimajäämise eest? – Autor.)
https://ok-blogs.in/V1/sfspuhcunqqauqnjuq/puidu-kyttega-auto,ilma-bensiini-diislita-ja-elektrimootorita-auto.mobile
http://olink.pm/http://rahvuslane.blogspot.com/2011/06/tiit-madisson-maailma-uus-kord-selle.html
http://ounapuu.ee/2011/06/tiit-madisson-maailma-uus-kord-selle-kehtestajad-ja-nende-kasutaitjad-eestis/
http://elektritsaabtasuta.blogspot.com.ee/2013/04/tiit-madisson-maailma-uus-kord-selle.html
"Vello Leito: Teadmiste kohustuslik miinimum Eesti riigi ja rahva ärakustutamise avaliku salaplaani kohta"
Mida endast kujutab Maailma Valitsus?
Ekslik on arvata, et juba aastakümneid maailma poliitikat suunav ja jõuliselt uut maailmakorda ( New World Oder) ülesehitav Maailma Valitsus on väikesearvuline, kellegi poolt valitav nõukogu. Maailma valitsusest rääkides peetakse esmalt silmas kolme mõjuvõimsat internatsionaalset organisatsiooni: Rahvusvaheliste Suhete Nõukogu (Council of Foreign Relations), Bilderbergi Klubi (Bilderberger Club) ja Kolmepoolse Komisjoni (Trilateral Commission). Viimase liige oli enne Kadrioru lossi kolimist ka Eesti praegune president Toomas H. Ilves.
Väga mõjuvõimsat osa maailma poliitika suunamisel etendab ka sionistlik vabamüürlasorganisatsioon B´nai B´rith, kellelt “jaa”-sõna saamata ei võeta ühtki riiki nt NATO liikmeks. Omaaegne peaminister Siim Kallas külastas just sel eesmärgil New Yorki, millest ükski Eesti ajaleht ei pidanud vajalikuks kirjutada, siinkirjutaja kuulis sellest paar korda 6. juulil 2002 raadios vilksatanud BNS-i uudisest. (Selle visiidi tulemusel kehtestas Eesti valitsus holokaustipäeva ametlikult tähistatavaks tähtpäevaks, mis oli üheks eeltingimuseks Põhja-Atlandi kaitseühenduse liikmeks saamiseks?! – Autor.)
Maailma Uue Korra loojate eesmärk?
Uue maailmakorra loojate eesmärgiks on kaotada maailmast igasugune poliitiline iseseisvus ning koondada kõik rahvad ühe valitsuse võimu alla. Silmakirjaliku demokraatia loosungi taha varjunute eesmärgiks pole mitte kõigi elanikkonnaklasside huvide eest seismine, vaid pigem nende veenmine, et pole muud võimalust kui allutada enda elulised huvid pankade ja suurkorporatsioonide “demokraatlikule” võimule. Nende huve esindavad kohalikud, end naha ja karvadega globalistidele mahamüünud poliitikud. Sellesama eesmärgi nimel on ka Eesti ajakirjanduses korduvalt läbi uue maailmakorra klakööride kirjutatud, et globaliseerumise protsess on vääramatu, mistõttu sellele vastuhakkamine on järelikult üks rumal ja lootusetu ettevõtmine. (Ilmselt sellepärast ongi Eesti globaliseerumise tasemelt viie maailma “edukaima” riigi hulgas, sest vastupanu rahvaste orjastajate plaanile Maarjamaaks kutsutud maalapil sisuliselt puudub! – Autor.)
Rahvuslikud eliidid on mandunud Maailma Uue Korra loojate lakeideks?
Kui varem olid Euroopa rahvaste rahvuslikud eliidid rahvuse huvide eest võitlemise eesliinil, siis praegusel ajal püüab raha-, poliitiline- ja vaimueliit muganduda ühtsesse globalistlikku süsteemi. Euroopa rahvaste poliitilisest, tavaliselt ka majandus- ja kultuurieliidist on saanud salajase internatsionaali liige või lihtsalt selle käsilane, kui tegu nt postkommunistliku Ida-Euroopa riikidega, kelle hulgast erilise püüdlikkusega paistab silma Eesti. Tänapäeva eliit kujutab endast üha rohkem suletud internatsionaalset klubi oma korporatiivse eetikaga, millel pole midagi ühist kodanikueetikaga, millele on olnud traditsiooniliselt omane püüe tagada oma rahvusele parem käekäik. Demokraatia mõiste on libekeelsete poliitikute ja manipuleeritava massiteabe poolt ammuilma diskrediteeritud ja kaotanud oma algse tähenduse. (Kus on meie omaaegne Loomeliitude Nõukogu? Miks me midagi ei kuule meie intelligentsi võitlusest eesti rahva püsimajäämise eest? – Autor.)
https://ok-blogs.in/V1/sfspuhcunqqauqnjuq/puidu-kyttega-auto,ilma-bensiini-diislita-ja-elektrimootorita-auto.mobile
22 March 2018 22:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://fp.lhv.ee/forum/free/131728?locale=et&ajax=true&containerId=news_comments&lastReadTime=1512402546000&listEventId=jumpToPage&listEventParam=2&pagesOfMaxSize=false
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/valismaa/saksamaa-sotsiaaldemokraatide-uus-juht-lubab-merkelilt-kantsleritooli-ule-luua?id=77145676&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+eestipaevaleht+%28EESTI+P%C3%84EVALEHT%29
"ttrust
Kas internatsionaalsotsialist (internats) samuti omab kommet teisi sinatada? Ossi ei pruugi olla mitte ainult sotsialist ega rahvussotsialist vaid internatsionaalsotsialist. Ehk siis hellitlevalt nimetavad nad endid: "sotsiaaldemokraat"."
// vaadata toru jms foorumeid sama sona osas ja siis postitada.
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/valismaa/saksamaa-sotsiaaldemokraatide-uus-juht-lubab-merkelilt-kantsleritooli-ule-luua?id=77145676&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+eestipaevaleht+%28EESTI+P%C3%84EVALEHT%29
"ttrust
Kas internatsionaalsotsialist (internats) samuti omab kommet teisi sinatada? Ossi ei pruugi olla mitte ainult sotsialist ega rahvussotsialist vaid internatsionaalsotsialist. Ehk siis hellitlevalt nimetavad nad endid: "sotsiaaldemokraat"."
// vaadata toru jms foorumeid sama sona osas ja siis postitada.
22 March 2018 22:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Teema: Meie planeedi elanikkonna massilise hukkamise programm
Postitus: [quote][i]Algselt postitas KrayonFänn[/i] Vaimse ...
Tsitaat:Algselt postitas KrayonFänn Vaimse Hierarhia ja Galaktilise Föderatsiooni teadaanne PAO rajaja Sheldan Nidle kaudu Tavapärane tervitus. Tere tulemast. Me tuleme jälle teie juurde uute uudis...
Dannil
Teema: Meie planeedi elanikkonna massilise hukkamise programm
Postitus: Vaimse Hierarhia ja Galaktilise Föderatsiooni tead...
Vaimse Hierarhia ja Galaktilise Föderatsiooni teadaanne PAO rajaja Sheldan Nidle kaudu Tavapärane tervitus. Tere tulemast. Me tuleme jälle teie juurde uute uudistega. Need räägivad teile sellest, m...
Jõhvikas
Teema: New Age õpetused on ohtlikud inimestele!
Postitus: New Age õpetused on ohtlikud inimestele!
Vikipediast loeme, et New Age all mõistetakse tänapäeval vaimseid õpetusi, mida iseloomustab „oma tee valimine.“ See tähendab siis suures piiris seda, et inimesele antakse võimalus tutvuda kõikide iid...
Celtic Usundid ja religioonid
Teema: III Reich:i saladused
Postitus: Patagoonia pilvede all.... 32 (Kummitusraketid)
Koos tõrjerelvade arenguga vajati eelmise sajandi 40-50 aastatel militaartehnilisi lahendusi rakettrelvadele, mis tagaksid kasuliku koorma kohaleviimise võimalikult varjatult ja vastase avastamis-rada...
zed
eema: Kes võitleb valgete eest?
Postitus: [quote][i]Algselt postitas excubitoris[/i] Meie...
Tsitaat:Algselt postitas excubitoris Meie peamine probleem ongi selles, et võimul on need keda võiks tinglikult nimetada "endised" - ehk need samad inimesed kes olid okupandid NSVL ajal on jäänud sel...
Iiris
Teema: Kes võitleb valgete eest?
Postitus: Nohh kui nõutakse siis kommenteerin :) Esiteks...
Nohh kui nõutakse siis kommenteerin :) Esiteks mitte "veneaegse" aga nõukogude reziimi aegse kogemusega. Teiseks persse ei keera mitte need kes vaidlevad vastu vaid need kes lähevad vaikides kaasa s...
excubitoris
Teema: Meie vaimsus
Postitus: njah need kes rasketel aegadel lahkusid, neid oli ...
njah need kes rasketel aegadel lahkusid, neid oli kasvatatud teistmoodi. Nad austasid enda päritolu ja olid selle üle uhked, sel ajal oli eesti rahvas ühtsem kui praegu ning sellist kasvatust toetasid...
333
eema: Kas läheb sõjaks ?
Postitus: Jah, meie foorumis ju kohane arutleda, kelle mis i...
Jah, meie foorumis ju kohane arutleda, kelle mis iganes salaplaanid kõigi nende nähtavate sündmuste taga peituvad. Aga asja teeb oluliselt lihtsamaks, kui me ei tunne muret kogu maailma (juutide, araa..."
"Naaberriikide ründamine "kaasmaalaste kaitse" vms loosungite all (T¹ehhoslovakkia, Austria, Balti riikides olid küll pisut teised loosungid, kuna NL ideoloogia oli "internatsionaalne" - tänapäevaseid näiteid oskate ise leida).
ja seda rida võite te veel ja veel pikendada ..."
Hallucigenia
eema: Paganlik laulupidu
Postitus: Hoiatuseks kõigile ja selleks puhuks, et eelpool t...
Hoiatuseks kõigile ja selleks puhuks, et eelpool toodud lingi taga varsti tühjus valitseb kopeerin KOGU teksti siia. ********************************************************************************&#...
"Laulupidude esimesel suurjuubelil 1969. aastal said meie kultuuriinimesed ja parteijuhid tunda NLKP poliitbüroolase Anastass Mikojani kurja näpuvibutust: laulupidu on liialt eestluskeskne, upsakas, seal puudub internatsionaalne vennasrahvaste piiritu armastuse dimensioon! Peo lõpulauluna kõlanud Gustav Ernesaksa “Mu isamaa on minu arm”, mis pisaraid esile kutsub, oli Mikojanile ja auloozhi-paksudele aga lausa õudus."
excubitoris
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Postitus: [quote][i]Algselt postitas KrayonFänn[/i] Vaimse ...
Tsitaat:Algselt postitas KrayonFänn Vaimse Hierarhia ja Galaktilise Föderatsiooni teadaanne PAO rajaja Sheldan Nidle kaudu Tavapärane tervitus. Tere tulemast. Me tuleme jälle teie juurde uute uudis...
Dannil
Teema: Meie planeedi elanikkonna massilise hukkamise programm
Postitus: Vaimse Hierarhia ja Galaktilise Föderatsiooni tead...
Vaimse Hierarhia ja Galaktilise Föderatsiooni teadaanne PAO rajaja Sheldan Nidle kaudu Tavapärane tervitus. Tere tulemast. Me tuleme jälle teie juurde uute uudistega. Need räägivad teile sellest, m...
Jõhvikas
Teema: New Age õpetused on ohtlikud inimestele!
Postitus: New Age õpetused on ohtlikud inimestele!
Vikipediast loeme, et New Age all mõistetakse tänapäeval vaimseid õpetusi, mida iseloomustab „oma tee valimine.“ See tähendab siis suures piiris seda, et inimesele antakse võimalus tutvuda kõikide iid...
Celtic Usundid ja religioonid
Teema: III Reich:i saladused
Postitus: Patagoonia pilvede all.... 32 (Kummitusraketid)
Koos tõrjerelvade arenguga vajati eelmise sajandi 40-50 aastatel militaartehnilisi lahendusi rakettrelvadele, mis tagaksid kasuliku koorma kohaleviimise võimalikult varjatult ja vastase avastamis-rada...
zed
eema: Kes võitleb valgete eest?
Postitus: [quote][i]Algselt postitas excubitoris[/i] Meie...
Tsitaat:Algselt postitas excubitoris Meie peamine probleem ongi selles, et võimul on need keda võiks tinglikult nimetada "endised" - ehk need samad inimesed kes olid okupandid NSVL ajal on jäänud sel...
Iiris
Teema: Kes võitleb valgete eest?
Postitus: Nohh kui nõutakse siis kommenteerin :) Esiteks...
Nohh kui nõutakse siis kommenteerin :) Esiteks mitte "veneaegse" aga nõukogude reziimi aegse kogemusega. Teiseks persse ei keera mitte need kes vaidlevad vastu vaid need kes lähevad vaikides kaasa s...
excubitoris
Teema: Meie vaimsus
Postitus: njah need kes rasketel aegadel lahkusid, neid oli ...
njah need kes rasketel aegadel lahkusid, neid oli kasvatatud teistmoodi. Nad austasid enda päritolu ja olid selle üle uhked, sel ajal oli eesti rahvas ühtsem kui praegu ning sellist kasvatust toetasid...
333
eema: Kas läheb sõjaks ?
Postitus: Jah, meie foorumis ju kohane arutleda, kelle mis i...
Jah, meie foorumis ju kohane arutleda, kelle mis iganes salaplaanid kõigi nende nähtavate sündmuste taga peituvad. Aga asja teeb oluliselt lihtsamaks, kui me ei tunne muret kogu maailma (juutide, araa..."
"Naaberriikide ründamine "kaasmaalaste kaitse" vms loosungite all (T¹ehhoslovakkia, Austria, Balti riikides olid küll pisut teised loosungid, kuna NL ideoloogia oli "internatsionaalne" - tänapäevaseid näiteid oskate ise leida).
ja seda rida võite te veel ja veel pikendada ..."
Hallucigenia
eema: Paganlik laulupidu
Postitus: Hoiatuseks kõigile ja selleks puhuks, et eelpool t...
Hoiatuseks kõigile ja selleks puhuks, et eelpool toodud lingi taga varsti tühjus valitseb kopeerin KOGU teksti siia. ********************************************************************************&#...
"Laulupidude esimesel suurjuubelil 1969. aastal said meie kultuuriinimesed ja parteijuhid tunda NLKP poliitbüroolase Anastass Mikojani kurja näpuvibutust: laulupidu on liialt eestluskeskne, upsakas, seal puudub internatsionaalne vennasrahvaste piiritu armastuse dimensioon! Peo lõpulauluna kõlanud Gustav Ernesaksa “Mu isamaa on minu arm”, mis pisaraid esile kutsub, oli Mikojanile ja auloozhi-paksudele aga lausa õudus."
excubitoris
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22 March 2018 22:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eema: Naljanurk
Postitus: RE: Naljanurk
KOMMUNISTLIK INTERNATSIONAAL ja selle fraktsioonid (võidab see, kelle fraktsioonis on kõige rohkem kollaborante, ignorante ja okupante) [img]http://poliit.planet.ee/images/vali.jpg[/img]
Eithea
Teema: Erakonnad rahva kallal
Postitus: RE: Erakonnad rahva kallal
Eesti erakondade loend Mitmesuguseid huvitavaid andmeid, kaasa arvatud rahvusvaheline liikmelisus ehk siis need kauged onud ja tädid, kes aitavad juhtida meie kohalikke omavalitsusi... Sotsialistlik ...
nokitseja
Teema: Stalini terror, Stalin II maailmasõda ja liitlased
Postitus: RE: Stalini terror, Stalin II maailmasõda ja liitl...
Stalin kui Isik ja kui Nähtus on mitmekülgne ja erinev. Meil siin Eestis sisuliselt puudub kirjandus mis räägiks Stalini tegevuse detailidest mis näitaksid teda teisest küljest kui "suur ja verine dik...
excubitoris
Teema: Euroliit
Postitus: RE: Euroliit
Peagi hakkab Brüsseli keskvõim euroliidu liikmesriikidele samal kombel "vennalikku internatsionaalset abi" osutama nagu N Liit 1956. aastal Ungarile ja 1968. aastal Tšehhoslovakkiale. Esimene ohver võ...
Pohlatohlakas
Teema: Holokaust - sajandi vandenõu?
Postitus: RE: Holokaust - sajandi vandenõu?
Tegelikult on olemas piiramatu tegevusväli, sikkude seltskond, kes lambakarju juhib, loeb nimelt ka rahvust ja rahvuskultuuri, muis ulatub riiklikule tasandile, natsismiks. Uurisin spetsiaalselt, toll...
VironShaman
Teema: Kodusõda Euroopas?
Postitus: RE: Kodusõda Euroopas?
Jah tõepoolest - Euroopa on rahvusliku ja kultuurilise enesetapu teel. Pole kahtlustki - IIMs tagajärjed on Euroopale nii kohutavad, nii jubedad, et see maailmaosa valis endale aeglase enesetapu. Kui...
Ott Sama
Teema: Maailma majanduslangus
Postitus: RE: Maailma majanduslangus
*Läheneme asjale puhtpragmaatilisest küljest - rahandus. Kas see on tõsiseltvõetav ning usaldusväärne, kui pole täit selgust, mis paganama väärtus seda raha katab? *Elame turumajanduslikus maailmas?...
Ott Sama
Teema: Jüri Lina 7.05.12. Artises
Postitus: Jüri Lina 7.05.12. Artises
"JÕUPROOV. Vabamüürlaste lõksud" Jüri Lina uue suurfilmi esilinastus Eestis Selles filmis näidatakse, kuidas massoonid ja kommunistid üritasid 1936 Hispaanias kehtestada kommunismi. Sündmuste areng ...
wirxx
Teema: Jüri Lina uued loengud
Postitus: RE: Jüri Lina uued loengud
Plaanisin kah kunagi, et loeks need Jüri Lina raamatud läbi. Enne otsustasin pisut netiavarustes tuhnida, et kas on ikka hea plaan. Leidsin järmise asja: http://pastebin.com/pxPRL6sJ-peatükk raamatust...
Patshabe
No nii - aeg on käes ja Jüri hõikas maha oma uue filmi esilinastuse ajad Eestis. Lisan siis lingi tema lehele ja kopeerin ka info siia. Tehke siis kalendrisse märge ja tulge kohale. Jüri Lina - JÕU...
eema: Exc'u kolumn ehk uudiseid laiast maailmast AD 2012
Postitus: RE: Exc'u kolumn ehk uudiseid laiast maailmast AD ...
Sweden moving towards cashless economy - CBS News Rootslased tuleviku vankrit vedamas. Selgub, et just nemad on esirinnas sularaha kaotajatena nagu omal ajal olid esirinnas selle käibelevõtmisel. E...
excubitoris
Teema: Juminda konnmees
Postitus: Juminda konnmees
Üsna sihitu arutelu asemel, kas tulnukad on olemas või mitte, võiks parem analüüsida varasemat materjali ja vahendada uusi juhtumeid. Muidugi tuleb igasse juhtumisse suhtuda allikakriitiliselt. Ka nei...
Bluedreamer
Teema: Vabamüürlased
Postitus: RE: Vabamüürlased
Allpool olev jutt on lingina antud ka "Jüri Lina uue filmi - Täitmatu Ouroboros esilinastus" teemas, aga vahel on linkidel komme kaduda jne. Tsitaat:Jüri Lina: "Seni on vabamüürlased mind oma pimeda ...
Jõhvikas
Teema: Lapsed ja ufokontaktid Eestis
Postitus: RE: Lapsed ja ufokontaktid Eestis
Siinse foorumi internatsionaalses osas küll varem kajastatud, ent siinkirjutaja poolt varem mittemärgatud juhtumid Eestist. Neist esimene toimus 1950. aastal (sic!) Viljandimaal Liiduvere külas. Maail...
Bluedreamer
Teema: Nostradamus ja muud prohvetid
Postitus: RE: Nostradamus ja muud prohvetid
On ka sarnasusi, eriti muistsete aegade kirjeldustes. Näiteks Sakjamunile, meile teadaolevale Buddhale, eelnenud Kaasjapa olevat elanud Lanka saarel ehk Atlantis-kultuuris umbes 48 000 aastat tagasi k...
Müstik
'
Teema: Plahvatus ja tulistamine Norras
Postitus: RE: Plahvatus ja tulistamine Norras
Veel hiljuti oli siin Eesti NSV Kommunistlikus parteis, täiesti täisväärtuslikke liikmeid, kes ei jaganud parteipoliitikast halligi! Entusiastlikult tõsteti kätt, mõisteti hukka amoraalseid liikmeid j...
Ott Sama
Teema: Venekeelsed uudised
Postitus: RE: Venekeelsed uudised
Venekeelsed uudised võiks ka internatsionaalse para alla käia ja armas oleks, kui sa paari sõnaga lahti ka kirjutaksid, mis lingi taga peidus (analoogselt Exu kolumniga). Aitäh
ykskuukiir
Teema: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
Postitus: RE: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
(30-05-2011 13:55 )VironShaman Kirjutas: Aga tänapäeval oleme 21 sajandis ja elu tuleb elada nii nagu meid ümbritsev võimaldab, isegi nõidadel pole viisakas rästikutega unenäkku rünnata aga see...
Teema: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
Postitus: RE: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
lahendused, olen liiga vana et vaenlasi otsida, otsin sõpru nii endale kui laiemalt, aga sina tahad kogu eliidi tunnistada vaenlasteks. Mitte kelleltki ei tohi ära võtta vaba valikut, kelle poolt olla...
VironShaman
Teema: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
Postitus: RE: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
Antifad on üldiselt juudikongressi juhtimise all tegutsevad rühmitused, samuti nagu ka inimõiguslaste liikumised. Võid härra Kantori käest küsida, ta juhuslikut ärastas pankrotiähvarduse kaudu ilma ee...
Postitus: RE: Naljanurk
KOMMUNISTLIK INTERNATSIONAAL ja selle fraktsioonid (võidab see, kelle fraktsioonis on kõige rohkem kollaborante, ignorante ja okupante) [img]http://poliit.planet.ee/images/vali.jpg[/img]
Eithea
Teema: Erakonnad rahva kallal
Postitus: RE: Erakonnad rahva kallal
Eesti erakondade loend Mitmesuguseid huvitavaid andmeid, kaasa arvatud rahvusvaheline liikmelisus ehk siis need kauged onud ja tädid, kes aitavad juhtida meie kohalikke omavalitsusi... Sotsialistlik ...
nokitseja
Teema: Stalini terror, Stalin II maailmasõda ja liitlased
Postitus: RE: Stalini terror, Stalin II maailmasõda ja liitl...
Stalin kui Isik ja kui Nähtus on mitmekülgne ja erinev. Meil siin Eestis sisuliselt puudub kirjandus mis räägiks Stalini tegevuse detailidest mis näitaksid teda teisest küljest kui "suur ja verine dik...
excubitoris
Teema: Euroliit
Postitus: RE: Euroliit
Peagi hakkab Brüsseli keskvõim euroliidu liikmesriikidele samal kombel "vennalikku internatsionaalset abi" osutama nagu N Liit 1956. aastal Ungarile ja 1968. aastal Tšehhoslovakkiale. Esimene ohver võ...
Pohlatohlakas
Teema: Holokaust - sajandi vandenõu?
Postitus: RE: Holokaust - sajandi vandenõu?
Tegelikult on olemas piiramatu tegevusväli, sikkude seltskond, kes lambakarju juhib, loeb nimelt ka rahvust ja rahvuskultuuri, muis ulatub riiklikule tasandile, natsismiks. Uurisin spetsiaalselt, toll...
VironShaman
Teema: Kodusõda Euroopas?
Postitus: RE: Kodusõda Euroopas?
Jah tõepoolest - Euroopa on rahvusliku ja kultuurilise enesetapu teel. Pole kahtlustki - IIMs tagajärjed on Euroopale nii kohutavad, nii jubedad, et see maailmaosa valis endale aeglase enesetapu. Kui...
Ott Sama
Teema: Maailma majanduslangus
Postitus: RE: Maailma majanduslangus
*Läheneme asjale puhtpragmaatilisest küljest - rahandus. Kas see on tõsiseltvõetav ning usaldusväärne, kui pole täit selgust, mis paganama väärtus seda raha katab? *Elame turumajanduslikus maailmas?...
Ott Sama
Teema: Jüri Lina 7.05.12. Artises
Postitus: Jüri Lina 7.05.12. Artises
"JÕUPROOV. Vabamüürlaste lõksud" Jüri Lina uue suurfilmi esilinastus Eestis Selles filmis näidatakse, kuidas massoonid ja kommunistid üritasid 1936 Hispaanias kehtestada kommunismi. Sündmuste areng ...
wirxx
Teema: Jüri Lina uued loengud
Postitus: RE: Jüri Lina uued loengud
Plaanisin kah kunagi, et loeks need Jüri Lina raamatud läbi. Enne otsustasin pisut netiavarustes tuhnida, et kas on ikka hea plaan. Leidsin järmise asja: http://pastebin.com/pxPRL6sJ-peatükk raamatust...
Patshabe
No nii - aeg on käes ja Jüri hõikas maha oma uue filmi esilinastuse ajad Eestis. Lisan siis lingi tema lehele ja kopeerin ka info siia. Tehke siis kalendrisse märge ja tulge kohale. Jüri Lina - JÕU...
eema: Exc'u kolumn ehk uudiseid laiast maailmast AD 2012
Postitus: RE: Exc'u kolumn ehk uudiseid laiast maailmast AD ...
Sweden moving towards cashless economy - CBS News Rootslased tuleviku vankrit vedamas. Selgub, et just nemad on esirinnas sularaha kaotajatena nagu omal ajal olid esirinnas selle käibelevõtmisel. E...
excubitoris
Teema: Juminda konnmees
Postitus: Juminda konnmees
Üsna sihitu arutelu asemel, kas tulnukad on olemas või mitte, võiks parem analüüsida varasemat materjali ja vahendada uusi juhtumeid. Muidugi tuleb igasse juhtumisse suhtuda allikakriitiliselt. Ka nei...
Bluedreamer
Teema: Vabamüürlased
Postitus: RE: Vabamüürlased
Allpool olev jutt on lingina antud ka "Jüri Lina uue filmi - Täitmatu Ouroboros esilinastus" teemas, aga vahel on linkidel komme kaduda jne. Tsitaat:Jüri Lina: "Seni on vabamüürlased mind oma pimeda ...
Jõhvikas
Teema: Lapsed ja ufokontaktid Eestis
Postitus: RE: Lapsed ja ufokontaktid Eestis
Siinse foorumi internatsionaalses osas küll varem kajastatud, ent siinkirjutaja poolt varem mittemärgatud juhtumid Eestist. Neist esimene toimus 1950. aastal (sic!) Viljandimaal Liiduvere külas. Maail...
Bluedreamer
Teema: Nostradamus ja muud prohvetid
Postitus: RE: Nostradamus ja muud prohvetid
On ka sarnasusi, eriti muistsete aegade kirjeldustes. Näiteks Sakjamunile, meile teadaolevale Buddhale, eelnenud Kaasjapa olevat elanud Lanka saarel ehk Atlantis-kultuuris umbes 48 000 aastat tagasi k...
Müstik
'
Teema: Plahvatus ja tulistamine Norras
Postitus: RE: Plahvatus ja tulistamine Norras
Veel hiljuti oli siin Eesti NSV Kommunistlikus parteis, täiesti täisväärtuslikke liikmeid, kes ei jaganud parteipoliitikast halligi! Entusiastlikult tõsteti kätt, mõisteti hukka amoraalseid liikmeid j...
Ott Sama
Teema: Venekeelsed uudised
Postitus: RE: Venekeelsed uudised
Venekeelsed uudised võiks ka internatsionaalse para alla käia ja armas oleks, kui sa paari sõnaga lahti ka kirjutaksid, mis lingi taga peidus (analoogselt Exu kolumniga). Aitäh
ykskuukiir
Teema: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
Postitus: RE: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
(30-05-2011 13:55 )VironShaman Kirjutas: Aga tänapäeval oleme 21 sajandis ja elu tuleb elada nii nagu meid ümbritsev võimaldab, isegi nõidadel pole viisakas rästikutega unenäkku rünnata aga see...
Teema: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
Postitus: RE: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
lahendused, olen liiga vana et vaenlasi otsida, otsin sõpru nii endale kui laiemalt, aga sina tahad kogu eliidi tunnistada vaenlasteks. Mitte kelleltki ei tohi ära võtta vaba valikut, kelle poolt olla...
VironShaman
Teema: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
Postitus: RE: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
Antifad on üldiselt juudikongressi juhtimise all tegutsevad rühmitused, samuti nagu ka inimõiguslaste liikumised. Võid härra Kantori käest küsida, ta juhuslikut ärastas pankrotiähvarduse kaudu ilma ee...
http://poliit.planet.ee/images/vali.jpg[/img]
22 March 2018 22:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//Foorumi täpsemad vasted koppida
http://www.para-web.org/search.php?action=results&sid=7fb82b2763c098bf7b567a3a389e869f&sortby=lastpost&order=desc
Teema: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
Postitus: RE: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
" Kust kogu see natsitamine pärit, no lihtsalt Avatud Eesti Fond, Soroslased ja nende juudišhamanism ei kannata ju enda kõrvale ühtegi teist. Kogu läänemaailoma pangandus on ühe juudiperekonna eraäri mi... "
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" No Kenderi naine ju venekeelne ja lapsed õpivad korralikult juudikoolis. Seetõttu oligi minu jaoks märgiline Kenderi sünnak Sirbile ja ülevõtmiskatse õige internatsionaalse seltskonna poolt. Kultuuria... "
"Sturm, jätame need rahvuslased rahule, nad on täiesti olemas ja neil on oma liidrid ning nad kuuluvad täiesti internatsionaalsesse kristlaste seltskonda. Põliseestlaste eesmärgid on natuke teised ja e..."
"Eks meil olegi erinavad särgid seljas nagu sa täitsa tabavalt ütlesid, iga jõud annab oma järgijatele piltlikult jõu logoga särgi selga, kristlastel vaatab sealt ristil Jeesuke otsa, muhamedlastel min..."
VironShaman
Teema: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
Postitus: RE: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
Kust sa loed välja, et ma pean õigeks suurvene šovinismist lähtunud "internatsionaalset" käsitlust? Teiseks nagu ma juba mainisin "jää oma liistude juurde ning teemadel, mida sa ei jaga ning mõistma v...
Chaos
Teema: Vabamüürlased
Postitus: RE: Vabamüürlased
(05-03-2017 12:20 )ibnuno Kirjutas: Kas keegi oskab ütelda, mis aastal ja kuupäeval asutati esimene vabamüürlaste naiste looz teades vabamüürlaste naljasoont oletan et asutajateks olid K.Zetki...
togli
Teema: See suur ja mõistetamatu Venemaa!?
Postitus: RE: See suur ja mõistetamatu Venemaa!?
(11-01-2017 16:43 )Punahabe Kirjutas: Praegused rünnakud Venemaa aadressil pole midagi muud kui maailma sotsialistliku internatsionaali paanika. :D Pagan. See sai hästi öeldud.
positiivne
Teema: See suur ja mõistetamatu Venemaa!?
Postitus: RE: See suur ja mõistetamatu Venemaa!?
Praegused rünnakud Venemaa aadressil pole midagi muud kui maailma sotsialistliku internatsionaali paanika. Ei saa unustada mida ennustas Vabamüürlane Breivik. Sõda lõuna ja põhja ,sotsialismi ja vaba ...
Punahabe
Teema: Kes võitleb valgete eest?
Postitus: RE: Kes võitleb valgete eest?
Olev Remsu terve artikkel Rahvuslus on (pseudo)religioon 19. oktoober 2016 00:10 Olev Remsu, kirjanik Eesti Päevaleht Religioonil ei ole kriitilisele mõtlemisele tuginevas maailmas kohta. Mõlemad ...
igaviklane
Teema: Euroliit
Postitus: RE: Euroliit
(13-05-2015 15:28 )kage Kirjutas: (13-05-2015 15:08 )Minaelan Kirjutas: Huvitav, kas keegi ikka veel usub, et Eesti on peale Euroliitu astumist "vaba" maa? Jah, usun, sest vabadus on pol...
Minaelan
Teema: See suur ja mõistetamatu Venemaa!?
Postitus: RE: See suur ja mõistetamatu Venemaa!?
Kodumaistele sõjaõhutajatele- hüsteerikutele: Me ehitame minimudelit suurriigi armeest, mille võitlusvõime eelduseks on vähemalt kahe liitlasbrigaadi appitulek sõja korral. Kuid kui väga nad ka ei lu...
cambodia
eema: Eesti keel ja rahvas on välja suremas ...
Postitus: RE: Eesti keel ja rahvas on välja suremas ...
Tegelikult poleks muud vaja kui põlisrahva ellujäämise fondi mille kaudu saaks eristada kohalikke siin sündinud, siin lapsi saavaid oma elu elavaid naisi sissetulnud murjanitest, kes väga suure huviga...
VironShaman
Teema: Ukraina-Venemaa maailmakriis
Postitus: RE: Ukraina-Venemaa maailmakriis
Jätke Lavrov rahule, ta on lihtsalt vene juut ja täidab oma kogukonna eesmärke ja huvisid. Samuti kui vene impeeriumi valitseb juudikogukond valitseb ka Ukrainat sama seltskond ja purelemine on ainult...
VironShaman
Teema: Ilusat naistepäeva kõigile õrnema soo esindajatele.
Postitus: RE: Ilusat naistepäeva kõigile õrnema soo esindaja...
Rahvusvahelise naistepäevaga tähistatakse ka esimese naisvabamüülaste looži loomist Prantsusmaal 1775. aastal Grand Orient de France juurde, mis osales Suure Prantsuse revolutsiooni läbiviimises alate...
corporis
Teema: Tiit Madisson "Minu võitlus"
Postitus: RE: Tiit Madisson "Minu võitlus"
Sattusin üht Tiit Madisoni 2011 aasta artiklit üle lugema: Maailma Uus Kord: selle kehtestajad ja nende käsutäitjad Eestis. Mida endast kujutab Maailma Valitsus? Ekslik on arvata, et juba aastakümn...
Müstik
Teema: Euroliit
Postitus: RE: Euroliit
Enamik ugrisid elab venemaal ja täna hävitab nende kultuuri rõõmsalt vene multikulti nii nagu eestlaste kultuuri siin hävitavad meie liberastid. Kes nad on , ikka needsamad keda sina ülistad ja kumma...
VironShaman
http://www.para-web.org/search.php?action=results&sid=7fb82b2763c098bf7b567a3a389e869f&sortby=lastpost&order=desc
Teema: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
Postitus: RE: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
" Kust kogu see natsitamine pärit, no lihtsalt Avatud Eesti Fond, Soroslased ja nende juudišhamanism ei kannata ju enda kõrvale ühtegi teist. Kogu läänemaailoma pangandus on ühe juudiperekonna eraäri mi... "
--
" No Kenderi naine ju venekeelne ja lapsed õpivad korralikult juudikoolis. Seetõttu oligi minu jaoks märgiline Kenderi sünnak Sirbile ja ülevõtmiskatse õige internatsionaalse seltskonna poolt. Kultuuria... "
"Sturm, jätame need rahvuslased rahule, nad on täiesti olemas ja neil on oma liidrid ning nad kuuluvad täiesti internatsionaalsesse kristlaste seltskonda. Põliseestlaste eesmärgid on natuke teised ja e..."
"Eks meil olegi erinavad särgid seljas nagu sa täitsa tabavalt ütlesid, iga jõud annab oma järgijatele piltlikult jõu logoga särgi selga, kristlastel vaatab sealt ristil Jeesuke otsa, muhamedlastel min..."
VironShaman
Teema: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
Postitus: RE: Põliseestlaste liikumine ja selle vaimsus
Kust sa loed välja, et ma pean õigeks suurvene šovinismist lähtunud "internatsionaalset" käsitlust? Teiseks nagu ma juba mainisin "jää oma liistude juurde ning teemadel, mida sa ei jaga ning mõistma v...
Chaos
Teema: Vabamüürlased
Postitus: RE: Vabamüürlased
(05-03-2017 12:20 )ibnuno Kirjutas: Kas keegi oskab ütelda, mis aastal ja kuupäeval asutati esimene vabamüürlaste naiste looz teades vabamüürlaste naljasoont oletan et asutajateks olid K.Zetki...
togli
Teema: See suur ja mõistetamatu Venemaa!?
Postitus: RE: See suur ja mõistetamatu Venemaa!?
(11-01-2017 16:43 )Punahabe Kirjutas: Praegused rünnakud Venemaa aadressil pole midagi muud kui maailma sotsialistliku internatsionaali paanika. :D Pagan. See sai hästi öeldud.
positiivne
Teema: See suur ja mõistetamatu Venemaa!?
Postitus: RE: See suur ja mõistetamatu Venemaa!?
Praegused rünnakud Venemaa aadressil pole midagi muud kui maailma sotsialistliku internatsionaali paanika. Ei saa unustada mida ennustas Vabamüürlane Breivik. Sõda lõuna ja põhja ,sotsialismi ja vaba ...
Punahabe
Teema: Kes võitleb valgete eest?
Postitus: RE: Kes võitleb valgete eest?
Olev Remsu terve artikkel Rahvuslus on (pseudo)religioon 19. oktoober 2016 00:10 Olev Remsu, kirjanik Eesti Päevaleht Religioonil ei ole kriitilisele mõtlemisele tuginevas maailmas kohta. Mõlemad ...
igaviklane
Teema: Euroliit
Postitus: RE: Euroliit
(13-05-2015 15:28 )kage Kirjutas: (13-05-2015 15:08 )Minaelan Kirjutas: Huvitav, kas keegi ikka veel usub, et Eesti on peale Euroliitu astumist "vaba" maa? Jah, usun, sest vabadus on pol...
Minaelan
Teema: See suur ja mõistetamatu Venemaa!?
Postitus: RE: See suur ja mõistetamatu Venemaa!?
Kodumaistele sõjaõhutajatele- hüsteerikutele: Me ehitame minimudelit suurriigi armeest, mille võitlusvõime eelduseks on vähemalt kahe liitlasbrigaadi appitulek sõja korral. Kuid kui väga nad ka ei lu...
cambodia
eema: Eesti keel ja rahvas on välja suremas ...
Postitus: RE: Eesti keel ja rahvas on välja suremas ...
Tegelikult poleks muud vaja kui põlisrahva ellujäämise fondi mille kaudu saaks eristada kohalikke siin sündinud, siin lapsi saavaid oma elu elavaid naisi sissetulnud murjanitest, kes väga suure huviga...
VironShaman
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Enamik ugrisid elab venemaal ja täna hävitab nende kultuuri rõõmsalt vene multikulti nii nagu eestlaste kultuuri siin hävitavad meie liberastid. Kes nad on , ikka needsamad keda sina ülistad ja kumma...
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22 March 2018 22:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// foorumite & blogide sisu // Niisama pudipadi
Paraweebi internats. teema mainimisi:
http://www.para-web.org/showthread.php?tid=5557&page=11
Eesti erakondade loend
Mitmesuguseid huvitavaid andmeid, kaasa arvatud rahvusvaheline liikmelisus ehk siis need kauged onud ja tädid, kes aitavad juhtida meie kohalikke omavalitsusi...
Sotsialistlik Internatsionaal.. Liberaalne Internatsionaal.. üks väga kategooriline väide kõlab nii:
"Internatsionaalid on rahvusvahelised marksistlike organisatsioonide ühendused."
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internatsionaal_%28organisatsioon%29
Euroopa Vasakpartei on sõltumatute ja suveräänsete Euroopa vasakparteide ja mittetulundusühingute (MTÜ) paindlik, detsentraliseeritud ühendus, mis tegutseb konsensuse alusel.
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euroopa_Vasakpartei
Ei saa nüüd hästi aru milleks on vaja Euroopa vasakparteide konsensust meie kohalike asjade juhtimiseks. Aga see on ilmselt vaid minu enda probleem, sest konsensus on väga vajalik.
Euroopa Rahvapartei on paremtsentristlik Euroopa partei, mis ühendab kristlik-demokraatlikke ja konservatiivseid Euroopa parteisid. Rahvaparteil on 72 liikmesparteid 39 riigis. Eesti parteidest kuulub Rahvaparteisse Isamaa ja Res Publica Liit.
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euroopa_Rahvapartei
Kristlik.. ja veel demokraatlik kah. Demokraatia on ikka tõega üks väga demokraatlik asi.
Kõik saavad olla demokraatlikud, isegi diktaatorid. Diktaatorite Demokraatlik Liit.. hmm, ei julgegi kaugemale mõelda, ma lausa ehmusin, kui tuttavlikuna see tundub.
Euroopa Roheline Partei
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euroopa_Roheline_Partei
// vt. paar posti DNA postituses rohelisuse inflatratsiooni plaane
Euroopa Roheline Partei on rohelisel ideoloogial põhinev europartei, mis on loodud 2004. aastal Euroopa roheliste parteide föderatsioonina. Selle liikmesparteide hulgas on Erakond Eestimaa Rohelised.
Ah selleks oligi vaja kasutusele võtta sõna 'erakond'.
Paraweebi internats. teema mainimisi:
http://www.para-web.org/showthread.php?tid=5557&page=11
Eesti erakondade loend
Mitmesuguseid huvitavaid andmeid, kaasa arvatud rahvusvaheline liikmelisus ehk siis need kauged onud ja tädid, kes aitavad juhtida meie kohalikke omavalitsusi...
Sotsialistlik Internatsionaal.. Liberaalne Internatsionaal.. üks väga kategooriline väide kõlab nii:
"Internatsionaalid on rahvusvahelised marksistlike organisatsioonide ühendused."
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internatsionaal_%28organisatsioon%29
Euroopa Vasakpartei on sõltumatute ja suveräänsete Euroopa vasakparteide ja mittetulundusühingute (MTÜ) paindlik, detsentraliseeritud ühendus, mis tegutseb konsensuse alusel.
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euroopa_Vasakpartei
Ei saa nüüd hästi aru milleks on vaja Euroopa vasakparteide konsensust meie kohalike asjade juhtimiseks. Aga see on ilmselt vaid minu enda probleem, sest konsensus on väga vajalik.
Euroopa Rahvapartei on paremtsentristlik Euroopa partei, mis ühendab kristlik-demokraatlikke ja konservatiivseid Euroopa parteisid. Rahvaparteil on 72 liikmesparteid 39 riigis. Eesti parteidest kuulub Rahvaparteisse Isamaa ja Res Publica Liit.
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euroopa_Rahvapartei
Kristlik.. ja veel demokraatlik kah. Demokraatia on ikka tõega üks väga demokraatlik asi.
Kõik saavad olla demokraatlikud, isegi diktaatorid. Diktaatorite Demokraatlik Liit.. hmm, ei julgegi kaugemale mõelda, ma lausa ehmusin, kui tuttavlikuna see tundub.
Euroopa Roheline Partei
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euroopa_Roheline_Partei
// vt. paar posti DNA postituses rohelisuse inflatratsiooni plaane
Euroopa Roheline Partei on rohelisel ideoloogial põhinev europartei, mis on loodud 2004. aastal Euroopa roheliste parteide föderatsioonina. Selle liikmesparteide hulgas on Erakond Eestimaa Rohelised.
Ah selleks oligi vaja kasutusele võtta sõna 'erakond'.
http://www.para-web.org/showthread.php?tid=5557&page=11
22 March 2018 22:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/kuum/rahvas-ja-moodukad-10?id=69063685
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/kuum/rahvas-ja-moodukad-10?id=69063685
22 March 2018 22:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// järg //
2009. aasta sügisel laiendas Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Erakond oluliselt oma kandepinda kohalikes omavalitustes. Tallinnas mindi enam kui kaheksa aasta järel taas linna juhtima. Tallinna abilinnapeaks sai erakonna esimees Jüri Pihl.
2010. aasta kevadel oli päevakorras Rahvaliidu ühinemine sotsiaaldemokraatidega. Erakondade liitumine ei saanud küll teoks, kuid sotsiaaldemokraatidega liitusid kümned Rahvaliidu tipptegijad nii üleriigilisel kui kohalikul tasandil.
2010. aasta detsembris, pärast Keskerakonna esimehe Edgar Savisaare rahastamisskandaali puhkemist, lõpetasid sotsiaaldemokraadid Tallinna linnas koalitsiooni Keskerakonnaga.
2010. aasta 16. oktoobril valisid sotsiaaldemokraadid üldkogul erakonna uueks esimeheks pikaaegse Riigikogu liikme Sven Mikseri, kelle eestvedamisel astuti vastu 2011. aasta Riigikogu valimistele.
2011. aasta Riigikogu valimistel tegi erakond läbi aegade parima tulemuse ja Riigikogu XII koosseisu Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Erakonna Fraktsiooni kuulub 19 liiget.
2013. aasta sügisel toimunud kohalike omavalitsuste valimiste järel on sotsiaaldemokraadid esindatud rohkemates omavalitsustes, kui varasemalt. Sotsiaaldemokraadist linnapead asusid ametisse Kuressaares, Paides, Põltsamaal, Valgas ja Võrus. Üle pika aja on sotsiaaldemokraadid võimul ka Tartus.
2014. aasta 20. märtsil sõlmisid sotsiaaldemokraadid ja Eesti Reformierakond koalitsioonilepingu. Taavi Rõivase juhitavas valitsuses alustasid tööd Sven Mikser kaitseministrina, Urve Palo majandus- ja taristuministrina, Jevgeni Ossinovski haridus- ja teadusministrina, Ivari Padar põllumajandusministrina, Andres Anvelt justiitsministrina ning Helmen Kütt sotsiaalkaitseministrina. Riigikogu esimeheks valiti Eiki Nestor, sotsiaaldemokraatidest juhtisid riigikogu sotsiaalkomisjoni Heljo Pikhof, rahanduskomisjoni Rannar Vassiljev, keskkonnakomisjoni Rainer Vakra, õiguskomisjoni Neeme Suur, maaelukomisjoni Kalvi Kõva.
2014. aasta kevadel toimunud Euroopa Parlamendi valimistel osutus sotsiaaldemokraatidest valituks Marju Lauristin.
2015. aasta märtsis toimunud riigikogu valimistel said sotsiaaldemokraadid parlamendis 15 saadikukohta. Sama aasta 8. aprillil sõlmisid sotsiaaldemokraadid koalitsioonilepingu Eesti Reformierakonna ja Erakond Isamaa ja Res Publica Liiduga. Taavi Rõivase juhitavas valitsuses alustasid tööd kaitseminister Sven Mikser, ettevõtlusminister Urve Palo, kultuuriminister Indrek Saar ning tervise- ja tööminister Rannar Vassiljev. Riigikogu esimeheks valiti Eiki Nestor ning riigikogu õiguskomisjoni hakkas juhtima Heljo Pikhof, maaelukomisjoni Ivari Padar, keskkonnakomisjoni Rainer Vakra ning väliskomisjoni Hannes Hanso.
2015. aasta 30. mail toimunud erakonna üldkogul valiti erakonna esimeheks Jevgeni Ossinovski. Sama aasta septembris muutusid Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Erakonna esindajad Vabariigi Valitsuses. 14. septembril kinnitati tervise- ja tööministriks Jevgeni Ossinovski, ettevõtlusministriks Liisa Oviir ning kaitseministriks Hannes Hanso. Kultuuriministrina jätkab Indrek Saar.
2009. aasta sügisel laiendas Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Erakond oluliselt oma kandepinda kohalikes omavalitustes. Tallinnas mindi enam kui kaheksa aasta järel taas linna juhtima. Tallinna abilinnapeaks sai erakonna esimees Jüri Pihl.
2010. aasta kevadel oli päevakorras Rahvaliidu ühinemine sotsiaaldemokraatidega. Erakondade liitumine ei saanud küll teoks, kuid sotsiaaldemokraatidega liitusid kümned Rahvaliidu tipptegijad nii üleriigilisel kui kohalikul tasandil.
2010. aasta detsembris, pärast Keskerakonna esimehe Edgar Savisaare rahastamisskandaali puhkemist, lõpetasid sotsiaaldemokraadid Tallinna linnas koalitsiooni Keskerakonnaga.
2010. aasta 16. oktoobril valisid sotsiaaldemokraadid üldkogul erakonna uueks esimeheks pikaaegse Riigikogu liikme Sven Mikseri, kelle eestvedamisel astuti vastu 2011. aasta Riigikogu valimistele.
2011. aasta Riigikogu valimistel tegi erakond läbi aegade parima tulemuse ja Riigikogu XII koosseisu Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Erakonna Fraktsiooni kuulub 19 liiget.
2013. aasta sügisel toimunud kohalike omavalitsuste valimiste järel on sotsiaaldemokraadid esindatud rohkemates omavalitsustes, kui varasemalt. Sotsiaaldemokraadist linnapead asusid ametisse Kuressaares, Paides, Põltsamaal, Valgas ja Võrus. Üle pika aja on sotsiaaldemokraadid võimul ka Tartus.
2014. aasta 20. märtsil sõlmisid sotsiaaldemokraadid ja Eesti Reformierakond koalitsioonilepingu. Taavi Rõivase juhitavas valitsuses alustasid tööd Sven Mikser kaitseministrina, Urve Palo majandus- ja taristuministrina, Jevgeni Ossinovski haridus- ja teadusministrina, Ivari Padar põllumajandusministrina, Andres Anvelt justiitsministrina ning Helmen Kütt sotsiaalkaitseministrina. Riigikogu esimeheks valiti Eiki Nestor, sotsiaaldemokraatidest juhtisid riigikogu sotsiaalkomisjoni Heljo Pikhof, rahanduskomisjoni Rannar Vassiljev, keskkonnakomisjoni Rainer Vakra, õiguskomisjoni Neeme Suur, maaelukomisjoni Kalvi Kõva.
2014. aasta kevadel toimunud Euroopa Parlamendi valimistel osutus sotsiaaldemokraatidest valituks Marju Lauristin.
2015. aasta märtsis toimunud riigikogu valimistel said sotsiaaldemokraadid parlamendis 15 saadikukohta. Sama aasta 8. aprillil sõlmisid sotsiaaldemokraadid koalitsioonilepingu Eesti Reformierakonna ja Erakond Isamaa ja Res Publica Liiduga. Taavi Rõivase juhitavas valitsuses alustasid tööd kaitseminister Sven Mikser, ettevõtlusminister Urve Palo, kultuuriminister Indrek Saar ning tervise- ja tööminister Rannar Vassiljev. Riigikogu esimeheks valiti Eiki Nestor ning riigikogu õiguskomisjoni hakkas juhtima Heljo Pikhof, maaelukomisjoni Ivari Padar, keskkonnakomisjoni Rainer Vakra ning väliskomisjoni Hannes Hanso.
2015. aasta 30. mail toimunud erakonna üldkogul valiti erakonna esimeheks Jevgeni Ossinovski. Sama aasta septembris muutusid Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Erakonna esindajad Vabariigi Valitsuses. 14. septembril kinnitati tervise- ja tööministriks Jevgeni Ossinovski, ettevõtlusministriks Liisa Oviir ning kaitseministriks Hannes Hanso. Kultuuriministrina jätkab Indrek Saar.
22 March 2018 22:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.sotsid.ee/erakond/ajalugu/
Tõenäoliselt on just Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Erakond see kooslus, mis võib pretendeerida kõige kauem järjepidevalt tegutsenud Eesti erakonna tiitlile. Sotsiaaldemokraatlik liikumine sündis nimelt revolutsioonilisel 1905. aastal. 1919. aastal võtsid tollased sotsparteid Asutava Kogu valimistel koguni kolmveerand kohtadest. Olgu märgitud, et Eesti sotsiaaldemokraadid kuulusid Sotsialistlikusse Internatsionaali juba enne Teist maailmasõda ning nende liikmestaatus taastati pärast Eesti taasiseseisvumist.
Järjepidevuse kandvaks jõuks oli paguluses tegutsenud Eesti Sotsialistliku Partei Välismaa Koondis, mis liitus koos kolme teise erakonnaga 1990. aasta septembris Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlikuks Parteiks (esimees Marju Lauristin). Põhiseadusliku korra taastamisele 1992. aasta suvel järgnenud parlamendivalimistel kandideerisid sotsiaaldemokraadid valimisliidu Mõõdukad nime all koos mõttekaaslastega teistest parteidest, samuti ühinesid nendega parteitud. Valimistel oldi edukad − saadi 12 kohta parlamendist, neist neli täitsid sotsiaaldemokraadid − ning kuuluti ka Mart Laari moodustatud paremtsentristlikkusse valitsusse. Laari valitsuses esindasid Mõõdukate nimekirja sotsiaalminister Marju Lauristin, keskkonnaminister Andres Tarand, reformiminister Liia Hänni ja põllumajandusminister Jaan Leetsaar.
1994. aasta sügisel avaldas Riigikogu Laari valitsusele umbusaldust ning paljuski samadel erakondlikel alustel moodustatud uue valitsuse peaministriks sai valimisliidu Mõõdukad juhtfiguur Andres Tarand (hilisem erakonna Mõõdukad ja Rahvaerakonna Mõõdukad esimees). Tarandi valitsuses esindasid Mõõdukaid regionaalminister Eiki Nestor, reformiminister Liia Hänni ja põllumajandusminister Aldo Tamm.
1995. aasta parlamendivalimistel tabas Mõõdukaid tagasilöök. Esindatus Riigikogus kahanes lausa kaks korda − kuue kohani. Opositsioonierakonnana asuti tegelema erakonna ülesehitamisega, mis osaliselt väljendus ESDP ja Eesti Maa-Keskerakonna liitumises 1996. aasta sügisel. Erakonna nimeks sai valimistelt rahvale tuttavaks saanud Mõõdukad.
Kolm aastat hiljem saavutas valimisvõidu valimiste eel koostöökokkuleppe sõlminud Isamaaliidu, Reformierakonna ja Mõõdukate blokk, mille valitsust hakati nimetama kolmikliiduks. Riigikogus 17 kohaga esindatud Mõõdukatele kuulus valitsuses viis ministrikohta. Juba eelnevalt olid Mõõdukad alustanud sisulist koostööd aastaid varem Isamaaliidust lahku löönud poliitikuid ja talumeeste erakondi ühendanud Eesti Rahvaerakonnaga (esimees Toomas Hendrik Ilves). Sügisel 1999 toimus ka erakondade ametlik ühinemine.
Teises Mart Laari valitsuses esindasid Rahvaerakonda Mõõdukad põllumajandusminister Ivari Padar, välisminister Toomas Hendrik Ilves, rahvastikuminister Katrin Saks, sotsiaalminister Eiki Nestor ja majandusministrina Mihkel Pärnoja, hiljem Henrik Hololei.
Erakonna 2001. aasta üldkogul valiti erakonna etteotsa populaarne välisminister Toomas Hendrik Ilves. Võeti vastu ka erakonna uus nn kolmanda tee programm, milles sätestati, et partei esindab sotsiaaldemokraatlikku maailmavaadet.
Kolmikliidu valitsuse lagunemisel 2002. aasta jaanuaris siirdus Riigikogu Mõõdukate 17-liikmeline saadikurühm opositsiooni. Ennekõike vastuoluliste erastamisotsuste tagajärjel oli erakonna maine sügavas madalseisus ning 2002. aasta oktoobri kohalikel valimistel tuli vastu võtta kaotus Tallinnas. Ilves astus erakonna juhi kohalt tagasi. Erakonna uueks juhiks valiti Ivari Padar.
Suure jõupingutusega õnnestus sotsiaaldemokraatidel mõni kuu hiljem toimunud parlamendivalimistel ületada viieprotsendiline valimiskünnis ning saada Riigikogus kuuekohaline esindatus.
Sel kriitilisel ajal algas ka erakonna taassünd. Mõnda aega väldanud arutelu partei sisu ja vormi ühendamise üle vormus konkreetseks ettepanekuks ja otsuseks 2004. aasta veebruaris korraldatud üldkogul: partei võttis endale tagasi õige nime, Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Erakond (SDE). Mõni kuu hiljem toimunud Euroopa Parlamendi valimistel saavutasid sotsiaaldemokraadid hiilgava võidu: kolm kohta kuuest ning ligi 37% valimas käinute toetusest. Toomas Hendrik Ilves üksi kogus rohkem hääli kui mitu parlamendierakonda kokku.
Kaks aastat hiljem, 23. septembril 2006 valiti erakonna endine esimees Toomas Hendrik Ilves Eesti Vabariigi presidendiks.
2007. aasta märtsivalimistel saatis sotsiaaldemokraate taas edu: uues Riigikogu koosseisus saadi 10 kohta ning üle mitme aasta kaasati erakond valitsuskoalitsiooni. Erakonna esimees Ivari Padar tõusis uues, Andrus Ansipi juhitavas kolmikliidu valitsuses rahandusministriks, Jüri Pihl siseministriks ja Urve Palo rahvastikuministriks. Vaevalt kolm nädalat ametis olnud valitsusel tuli seista silmitsi aprillimässuga. Just siseminister Pihli jõuline tegutsemine aitas hoida ära rahutuste levimise.
7. märtsil 2009 toimunud erakonna üldkogul valiti erakonna esimeheks siseminister Jüri Pihl.
Valitsusliit lagunes 2009. aasta mais pärast ägedat tüli uue töölepinguseaduse eelnõu ümber. Sotsiaaldemokraadid jäid Riigikogus opositsiooni. Sama aasta juunis toimunud Euroopa Parlamendi valimistel sai erakond ühe mandaadi. Eesti sotsiaaldemokraate esindab Brüsselis Ivari Padar.
Tõenäoliselt on just Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Erakond see kooslus, mis võib pretendeerida kõige kauem järjepidevalt tegutsenud Eesti erakonna tiitlile. Sotsiaaldemokraatlik liikumine sündis nimelt revolutsioonilisel 1905. aastal. 1919. aastal võtsid tollased sotsparteid Asutava Kogu valimistel koguni kolmveerand kohtadest. Olgu märgitud, et Eesti sotsiaaldemokraadid kuulusid Sotsialistlikusse Internatsionaali juba enne Teist maailmasõda ning nende liikmestaatus taastati pärast Eesti taasiseseisvumist.
Järjepidevuse kandvaks jõuks oli paguluses tegutsenud Eesti Sotsialistliku Partei Välismaa Koondis, mis liitus koos kolme teise erakonnaga 1990. aasta septembris Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlikuks Parteiks (esimees Marju Lauristin). Põhiseadusliku korra taastamisele 1992. aasta suvel järgnenud parlamendivalimistel kandideerisid sotsiaaldemokraadid valimisliidu Mõõdukad nime all koos mõttekaaslastega teistest parteidest, samuti ühinesid nendega parteitud. Valimistel oldi edukad − saadi 12 kohta parlamendist, neist neli täitsid sotsiaaldemokraadid − ning kuuluti ka Mart Laari moodustatud paremtsentristlikkusse valitsusse. Laari valitsuses esindasid Mõõdukate nimekirja sotsiaalminister Marju Lauristin, keskkonnaminister Andres Tarand, reformiminister Liia Hänni ja põllumajandusminister Jaan Leetsaar.
1994. aasta sügisel avaldas Riigikogu Laari valitsusele umbusaldust ning paljuski samadel erakondlikel alustel moodustatud uue valitsuse peaministriks sai valimisliidu Mõõdukad juhtfiguur Andres Tarand (hilisem erakonna Mõõdukad ja Rahvaerakonna Mõõdukad esimees). Tarandi valitsuses esindasid Mõõdukaid regionaalminister Eiki Nestor, reformiminister Liia Hänni ja põllumajandusminister Aldo Tamm.
1995. aasta parlamendivalimistel tabas Mõõdukaid tagasilöök. Esindatus Riigikogus kahanes lausa kaks korda − kuue kohani. Opositsioonierakonnana asuti tegelema erakonna ülesehitamisega, mis osaliselt väljendus ESDP ja Eesti Maa-Keskerakonna liitumises 1996. aasta sügisel. Erakonna nimeks sai valimistelt rahvale tuttavaks saanud Mõõdukad.
Kolm aastat hiljem saavutas valimisvõidu valimiste eel koostöökokkuleppe sõlminud Isamaaliidu, Reformierakonna ja Mõõdukate blokk, mille valitsust hakati nimetama kolmikliiduks. Riigikogus 17 kohaga esindatud Mõõdukatele kuulus valitsuses viis ministrikohta. Juba eelnevalt olid Mõõdukad alustanud sisulist koostööd aastaid varem Isamaaliidust lahku löönud poliitikuid ja talumeeste erakondi ühendanud Eesti Rahvaerakonnaga (esimees Toomas Hendrik Ilves). Sügisel 1999 toimus ka erakondade ametlik ühinemine.
Teises Mart Laari valitsuses esindasid Rahvaerakonda Mõõdukad põllumajandusminister Ivari Padar, välisminister Toomas Hendrik Ilves, rahvastikuminister Katrin Saks, sotsiaalminister Eiki Nestor ja majandusministrina Mihkel Pärnoja, hiljem Henrik Hololei.
Erakonna 2001. aasta üldkogul valiti erakonna etteotsa populaarne välisminister Toomas Hendrik Ilves. Võeti vastu ka erakonna uus nn kolmanda tee programm, milles sätestati, et partei esindab sotsiaaldemokraatlikku maailmavaadet.
Kolmikliidu valitsuse lagunemisel 2002. aasta jaanuaris siirdus Riigikogu Mõõdukate 17-liikmeline saadikurühm opositsiooni. Ennekõike vastuoluliste erastamisotsuste tagajärjel oli erakonna maine sügavas madalseisus ning 2002. aasta oktoobri kohalikel valimistel tuli vastu võtta kaotus Tallinnas. Ilves astus erakonna juhi kohalt tagasi. Erakonna uueks juhiks valiti Ivari Padar.
Suure jõupingutusega õnnestus sotsiaaldemokraatidel mõni kuu hiljem toimunud parlamendivalimistel ületada viieprotsendiline valimiskünnis ning saada Riigikogus kuuekohaline esindatus.
Sel kriitilisel ajal algas ka erakonna taassünd. Mõnda aega väldanud arutelu partei sisu ja vormi ühendamise üle vormus konkreetseks ettepanekuks ja otsuseks 2004. aasta veebruaris korraldatud üldkogul: partei võttis endale tagasi õige nime, Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Erakond (SDE). Mõni kuu hiljem toimunud Euroopa Parlamendi valimistel saavutasid sotsiaaldemokraadid hiilgava võidu: kolm kohta kuuest ning ligi 37% valimas käinute toetusest. Toomas Hendrik Ilves üksi kogus rohkem hääli kui mitu parlamendierakonda kokku.
Kaks aastat hiljem, 23. septembril 2006 valiti erakonna endine esimees Toomas Hendrik Ilves Eesti Vabariigi presidendiks.
2007. aasta märtsivalimistel saatis sotsiaaldemokraate taas edu: uues Riigikogu koosseisus saadi 10 kohta ning üle mitme aasta kaasati erakond valitsuskoalitsiooni. Erakonna esimees Ivari Padar tõusis uues, Andrus Ansipi juhitavas kolmikliidu valitsuses rahandusministriks, Jüri Pihl siseministriks ja Urve Palo rahvastikuministriks. Vaevalt kolm nädalat ametis olnud valitsusel tuli seista silmitsi aprillimässuga. Just siseminister Pihli jõuline tegutsemine aitas hoida ära rahutuste levimise.
7. märtsil 2009 toimunud erakonna üldkogul valiti erakonna esimeheks siseminister Jüri Pihl.
Valitsusliit lagunes 2009. aasta mais pärast ägedat tüli uue töölepinguseaduse eelnõu ümber. Sotsiaaldemokraadid jäid Riigikogus opositsiooni. Sama aasta juunis toimunud Euroopa Parlamendi valimistel sai erakond ühe mandaadi. Eesti sotsiaaldemokraate esindab Brüsselis Ivari Padar.
http://www.sotsid.ee/erakond/ajalugu/
22 March 2018 22:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Olulisi mottekohtasi ka siin;
https://arvamus.postimees.ee/2526345/usaldust-ei-osteta
Andrus Villem (Isamaaliit) on Riigikogu esimehe nõunik.
Tänases kiirelt lähemaks muutuvas maailmas on tipp-poliitikule isiklikud suhted ja läbisaamine etendamas üha olulisemat rolli. Tihtipeale määrab mõne riigi edu või ebaedu just see, kas selle juhtidel on maailma tippjuhtide seas isiklikke tuttavaid-sõpru, kelle kaasabil avaneb vaba ligipääs maailma võimukoridoridesse.
1993. aastal pääses Eesti ootamatult kiiresti Euroopa Nõukogu täisliikmeks. Tõhusalt mõjutasid selle arengut kristlik demokraat Mart Laar ja sotsiaaldemokraat Marju Lauristin, kellel olid väga head isiklikud suhted mõttekaaslastega Läänes.
Analoogseid saavutusi võib Eesti lähiminevikust loetleda teisigi.
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Kahjuks pole Eestis maailma tipp-poliitikas kaasa mängivaid poliitikuid just palju. Põhjus ei peitu mitte niipalju võimekate poliitikute vähesuses, kuivõrd mitmetasandiliste rahvusvaheliste või erakondlike sidemete nõrkuses, osa erakondade puhul isegi suhete puudumises.
Arvestatav Lääne partneritest suhtlusring on Eesti erakondadest tegelikult vaid mõnel. Mõõdukad kuuluvad Sotsiaaldemokraatlikku Internatsionaali ning on selles üsna mõjukalt ka tegevad. Omal ajal oli Marju Lauristin üks Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Internatsionaali asepresidente, olles märkimisväärne persoon tänapäeva poliitikamaailma tipptegijate hulgas.
Tihe on ka Reformierakonna koostöö oma mõttekaaslastega Liberaaldemokraatlikust Internatsionaalist. Just need sidemed on paljuski kaasa aidanud Kristiina Ojulandi tõusule rahvusvahelises poliitikas.
Liberaalide probleemiks on vahest ainult see, et liberaaldemokraadid on reaalse võimu juures suhteliselt vähestes riikides, ning seetõttu on ka Reformi liidrite mõju maailmas toimuvale väiksem.
Isamaaliidu sidemed
Kõige pikemaaegsete rahvusvaheliste kontaktidega on Eesti erakondadest Isamaaliit, mis kuulub nii Kristlikdemokraatlikku Internatsionaali kui Euroopa Demokraatlikku Uniooni.
On avalik saladus, et Eesti kasutas käesoleva aasta suvel väga edukalt Isamaaliidu liidrite isiklikke sidemeid mõjutamaks Euroopa Ühenduses juhtivpositsioonidel olevaid konservatiive ja kristlikke demokraate toetama Eesti pääsu ainsa riigina Balti regioonist ELi laienemise esimesse ringi.
Mart Laar, Tunne Kelam ja Toivo Jürgenson on rahvusvahelises poliitikas tuntud tegijad, kellele on avatud pääs kabinettidesse, kus Eesti seotud küsimusi otsustatakse.
Vaheastmel Koonderakond
Vaheastme moodustab Koonderakond. Võimupartei liidritel puuduvad rahvusvahelisel areenil isiklikud sõbrad-tuttavad.
Koonderakond üritas alguses pääseda konservatiivsetesse rahvusvahelistesse organisatsioonidesse, mis ei läinud aga korda. Valitseva erakonnana võeti ta küll Liberaaldemokraatliku Internatsionaali vaatlejaliikmeks, kuid liidrite võõrkeeleoskamatuse tõttu ei ole suudetud luua rahvusvaheliseks läbilöögiks vajalikku kandepinda.
Üritanud on ka Maaliit, kuid katse pääseda konservatiivse Euroopa Demokraatliku Liidu liikmeks lükati tagasi, kuna taotlejat vaadeldi endisi kommuniste ühendava erakonnana.
Traagiline paistab Keskerakonna seis. Koostööd on proovitud küll ühtede, küll teiste erakondadega, kuid suuremat tulu pole sellest tõusnud.
Teatud määral saab Keskerakonna partneriks pidada Põhjamaade keskerakondi, kellega koostööd on aga oluliselt nõrgestanud erakonna liidri viletsavõitu maine rahvusvahelisel areenil.
Nii pole imestada, et saavutamaks kohtumisi mingitegi juhtivate tegelastega Euroopas peab Keskerakond sisuliselt peale maksma. Lihtsamalt öeldes kasutama suhtluskorraldusfirma teenuseid. Tavaliselt on seda laadi suhtekorraldusteenuste kasutajad hõimupealikud Aafrikast või korruptsioonikahtlaste Ladina-Ameerika riikide liidrid.
Ühelt poolt on toimuv naljakas, teiselt poolt kurb. Kahju on erakonnast, kes peab oma liidrile kohtumiseks teiste riikide poliitikutega peale maksma.
Kahju on aga ka riigist, kes enese mainet sellise tsirkusega alandab. Usaldust ei saa osta reklaamitrikkidega. See tuleb aastatepikkuse koostöö ja vastastikuse austuse läbi.
https://arvamus.postimees.ee/2526345/usaldust-ei-osteta
Andrus Villem (Isamaaliit) on Riigikogu esimehe nõunik.
Tänases kiirelt lähemaks muutuvas maailmas on tipp-poliitikule isiklikud suhted ja läbisaamine etendamas üha olulisemat rolli. Tihtipeale määrab mõne riigi edu või ebaedu just see, kas selle juhtidel on maailma tippjuhtide seas isiklikke tuttavaid-sõpru, kelle kaasabil avaneb vaba ligipääs maailma võimukoridoridesse.
1993. aastal pääses Eesti ootamatult kiiresti Euroopa Nõukogu täisliikmeks. Tõhusalt mõjutasid selle arengut kristlik demokraat Mart Laar ja sotsiaaldemokraat Marju Lauristin, kellel olid väga head isiklikud suhted mõttekaaslastega Läänes.
Analoogseid saavutusi võib Eesti lähiminevikust loetleda teisigi.
--
Kahjuks pole Eestis maailma tipp-poliitikas kaasa mängivaid poliitikuid just palju. Põhjus ei peitu mitte niipalju võimekate poliitikute vähesuses, kuivõrd mitmetasandiliste rahvusvaheliste või erakondlike sidemete nõrkuses, osa erakondade puhul isegi suhete puudumises.
Arvestatav Lääne partneritest suhtlusring on Eesti erakondadest tegelikult vaid mõnel. Mõõdukad kuuluvad Sotsiaaldemokraatlikku Internatsionaali ning on selles üsna mõjukalt ka tegevad. Omal ajal oli Marju Lauristin üks Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Internatsionaali asepresidente, olles märkimisväärne persoon tänapäeva poliitikamaailma tipptegijate hulgas.
Tihe on ka Reformierakonna koostöö oma mõttekaaslastega Liberaaldemokraatlikust Internatsionaalist. Just need sidemed on paljuski kaasa aidanud Kristiina Ojulandi tõusule rahvusvahelises poliitikas.
Liberaalide probleemiks on vahest ainult see, et liberaaldemokraadid on reaalse võimu juures suhteliselt vähestes riikides, ning seetõttu on ka Reformi liidrite mõju maailmas toimuvale väiksem.
Isamaaliidu sidemed
Kõige pikemaaegsete rahvusvaheliste kontaktidega on Eesti erakondadest Isamaaliit, mis kuulub nii Kristlikdemokraatlikku Internatsionaali kui Euroopa Demokraatlikku Uniooni.
On avalik saladus, et Eesti kasutas käesoleva aasta suvel väga edukalt Isamaaliidu liidrite isiklikke sidemeid mõjutamaks Euroopa Ühenduses juhtivpositsioonidel olevaid konservatiive ja kristlikke demokraate toetama Eesti pääsu ainsa riigina Balti regioonist ELi laienemise esimesse ringi.
Mart Laar, Tunne Kelam ja Toivo Jürgenson on rahvusvahelises poliitikas tuntud tegijad, kellele on avatud pääs kabinettidesse, kus Eesti seotud küsimusi otsustatakse.
Vaheastmel Koonderakond
Vaheastme moodustab Koonderakond. Võimupartei liidritel puuduvad rahvusvahelisel areenil isiklikud sõbrad-tuttavad.
Koonderakond üritas alguses pääseda konservatiivsetesse rahvusvahelistesse organisatsioonidesse, mis ei läinud aga korda. Valitseva erakonnana võeti ta küll Liberaaldemokraatliku Internatsionaali vaatlejaliikmeks, kuid liidrite võõrkeeleoskamatuse tõttu ei ole suudetud luua rahvusvaheliseks läbilöögiks vajalikku kandepinda.
Üritanud on ka Maaliit, kuid katse pääseda konservatiivse Euroopa Demokraatliku Liidu liikmeks lükati tagasi, kuna taotlejat vaadeldi endisi kommuniste ühendava erakonnana.
Traagiline paistab Keskerakonna seis. Koostööd on proovitud küll ühtede, küll teiste erakondadega, kuid suuremat tulu pole sellest tõusnud.
Teatud määral saab Keskerakonna partneriks pidada Põhjamaade keskerakondi, kellega koostööd on aga oluliselt nõrgestanud erakonna liidri viletsavõitu maine rahvusvahelisel areenil.
Nii pole imestada, et saavutamaks kohtumisi mingitegi juhtivate tegelastega Euroopas peab Keskerakond sisuliselt peale maksma. Lihtsamalt öeldes kasutama suhtluskorraldusfirma teenuseid. Tavaliselt on seda laadi suhtekorraldusteenuste kasutajad hõimupealikud Aafrikast või korruptsioonikahtlaste Ladina-Ameerika riikide liidrid.
Ühelt poolt on toimuv naljakas, teiselt poolt kurb. Kahju on erakonnast, kes peab oma liidrile kohtumiseks teiste riikide poliitikutega peale maksma.
Kahju on aga ka riigist, kes enese mainet sellise tsirkusega alandab. Usaldust ei saa osta reklaamitrikkidega. See tuleb aastatepikkuse koostöö ja vastastikuse austuse läbi.
https://arvamus.postimees.ee/2526345/usaldust-ei-osteta
22 March 2018 22:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://elvalikaine.tlu.ee/file/Euroerakonnad.pdf
Euroerakonnad:
Seega pole euroerakond tavapärane rahvusriiklik erakond, vaid erakondade katusühendus,
mis väljaspool Euroopa Parlamenti valdavalt toimib liikmeserakondade kaudu. Siiski on
koostöö tihedam kui pikema ajalooga rahvusvahelistes erakonnaliitudes ehk
internatsionaalides, mis on ennekõike teabe- ja mõttevahetuse kohtadeks: euroerakonna
kaudu toimub teatav praktiline poliitiline koordinatsioon ja igapäevategevus
ühisisinstitutsioonides.
Euroerakondade alguseks võib pidada poliitilist koostööd Euroopa Parlamendis. Kui alguses
oli parlament ennekõike dekoratiivne ja saadikud rühmitusid liikmesriikide kaupa, on
parlamendi pädevused kasvanud ja otsused sisaldavad maailmavaatelisi valikuid. Nii polegi
ime, et varaste koosseisude hõre koostöö on tänaseks asendunud parlamentaarse protsessiga
suuresti rahvusriikide sügavustasemel. Keskseteks arengutähisteks võib pidada Euroopa
Parlamendi otsevalimist alates 1979 ja ühisinstitutsioonide, sealhulgas parlamendi pädevuste
hüppelist kasvu Maastrichti lepinguga 1992.
--
Poliitika
raskuspunkt on jätkuvalt liikmesriikides, mistõttu europarteid on pigem liikmeserakondade
uue taseme koostöövormid, mitte uued hiidparteid. Rööbiti jätkatakse ka tegevust vanemates
ülemaailmsetes erakondade maailmavaatelistes koostööühendustes, millest tuntuimad on
Sotsialistlik Internatsionaal ja Liberaalne Internatsionaal.
--
Kui Euroopa Söe- ja Teraseühendus 1952 loodi, algatas sotsiaaldemokraatide üleilmne
koostööühendus Sotsialistlik Internatsionaal ESTÜ 1953 sotsiaaldemokraatlike erakondade
kongressi, mis omakorda moodustas teabevahetuskeskuse (liaison bureau). Selle kaudu
arenes 1960.-tel märkimisväärne hargmaine koostöö, sest liikmeserakonnad tajusid vajadust
sõnastada vasakalternatiiv tehnokraatlikule ja kapitalistlikule Euroopale. Mõistagi tegid
sotsiaaldemokraatlike erakondade saadikud koostööd ka Euroopa Parlamendis, ehkki toona
rühmituti põhiliselt päritoluriigi alusel.
--
Vali üks euroerakond ja võrdle sama erakonnaperekonna rahvusvahelise
koostööplatvormiga (PES ja Sotsialistlik Internatsionaal, ALDE ja Liberaalne
Internatsionaal jne). Missugused jooned töökorralduses sarnanevad, missugused
erinevad?
--
Euroerakonnad:
Seega pole euroerakond tavapärane rahvusriiklik erakond, vaid erakondade katusühendus,
mis väljaspool Euroopa Parlamenti valdavalt toimib liikmeserakondade kaudu. Siiski on
koostöö tihedam kui pikema ajalooga rahvusvahelistes erakonnaliitudes ehk
internatsionaalides, mis on ennekõike teabe- ja mõttevahetuse kohtadeks: euroerakonna
kaudu toimub teatav praktiline poliitiline koordinatsioon ja igapäevategevus
ühisisinstitutsioonides.
Euroerakondade alguseks võib pidada poliitilist koostööd Euroopa Parlamendis. Kui alguses
oli parlament ennekõike dekoratiivne ja saadikud rühmitusid liikmesriikide kaupa, on
parlamendi pädevused kasvanud ja otsused sisaldavad maailmavaatelisi valikuid. Nii polegi
ime, et varaste koosseisude hõre koostöö on tänaseks asendunud parlamentaarse protsessiga
suuresti rahvusriikide sügavustasemel. Keskseteks arengutähisteks võib pidada Euroopa
Parlamendi otsevalimist alates 1979 ja ühisinstitutsioonide, sealhulgas parlamendi pädevuste
hüppelist kasvu Maastrichti lepinguga 1992.
--
Poliitika
raskuspunkt on jätkuvalt liikmesriikides, mistõttu europarteid on pigem liikmeserakondade
uue taseme koostöövormid, mitte uued hiidparteid. Rööbiti jätkatakse ka tegevust vanemates
ülemaailmsetes erakondade maailmavaatelistes koostööühendustes, millest tuntuimad on
Sotsialistlik Internatsionaal ja Liberaalne Internatsionaal.
--
Kui Euroopa Söe- ja Teraseühendus 1952 loodi, algatas sotsiaaldemokraatide üleilmne
koostööühendus Sotsialistlik Internatsionaal ESTÜ 1953 sotsiaaldemokraatlike erakondade
kongressi, mis omakorda moodustas teabevahetuskeskuse (liaison bureau). Selle kaudu
arenes 1960.-tel märkimisväärne hargmaine koostöö, sest liikmeserakonnad tajusid vajadust
sõnastada vasakalternatiiv tehnokraatlikule ja kapitalistlikule Euroopale. Mõistagi tegid
sotsiaaldemokraatlike erakondade saadikud koostööd ka Euroopa Parlamendis, ehkki toona
rühmituti põhiliselt päritoluriigi alusel.
--
Vali üks euroerakond ja võrdle sama erakonnaperekonna rahvusvahelise
koostööplatvormiga (PES ja Sotsialistlik Internatsionaal, ALDE ja Liberaalne
Internatsionaal jne). Missugused jooned töökorralduses sarnanevad, missugused
erinevad?
--
22 March 2018 22:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// järg //
Ent tulgem asja tuuma juurde. Kahtlemata on t�nase eestikeelse kultuuriteadvuse �ks r�ngemaid probleeme seotud just Esimese Maiga. Mida sel p�eval ikkagi teha? Kuidas k�ituda? Kusjuures see pole mitte ainult endiste ensv-laste � kes me ju peaaegu k�ik paraku oleme! � probleem. See on Euroopa (Liidu) probleem. Kindlasti on Esimene Mai t�nase Euroopa kultuuriteadvuse k�ige intrigeerivam ja samas ka integreerivam komponent. Ootusp�raselt on selle nn. mai-fenomeni algus antiigis. Just selles �rg-Euroopas olevat juba tuhandeid aastaid tagasi austatud jumalannat nimega Maia, kes olevat olnud seotud viljakusega. Ja vanad roomlased olevat tema auks koguni �he kalendrikuu teinud, nn. Maius Mensis, mille esimesel p�eval olevat ohverdatud just Maiale. Seej�rel aga siseneb nn. mai-diskursusesse �ks kristlik naisterahvas. See on Inglismaalt p�rit Walburga (soomlased nimetavad teda lihtsalt Vappu), kes oli aastail 761 � 779 Saksamaal Heidenheimi kloostri abtiss ja kes hiljem kuulutati p�hakuks. Walburga maiste j��nuste �mbermatmine olevat toimunud just ��l vastu 1. maid ja just see �� sai hiljem millegip�rast tuntuks kui Walpurgi�� (saksa keeli Walpurgisnacht, eesti keeli ka Volbri��). Seda t�histati �ise laaberdamise ja hooramisega. Rahvauskumuse j�rgi s�itsid n�iad sel ��l luua v�i soku seljas Saksamaal Blocksbergi m�ele kuraditega pidutsema. Kummaline k�ll, et too katoliiklik naisp�hak hakkas Volbri�� kontekstis m�rgistama just kuradeid ja n�idumist. Ent nii see on ja isegi Johann Wolfgang Goethe laseb oma kuradil, Mefistofesel Faustile �telda: �Verlangst du nicht nach einem Besenstiele? / Ich w�nschte mir den allerderbsten Bock� (eesti keeli: �Kas endale sa luuavart ei sooviks? / N��d peru sokk mind p�rale viiks pea�). Tundub, et vana Goethegi soovitaks meil Volbri��l luuavarrega v�i soku seljas Blocksbergi m�ele s�ita/lennata.
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See selleks. Eesti j��b niikuinii Venemaa k�lje alla tilbendama. Seda tunnistas k�ige ausamalt nn. N�ukogude Eesti, mille kunagisi mai-meeleolusid v�ga intrigeerivalt kujutas Juhan Smuul luuletuses �Mai�htu� (1948). Selles kirjeldatakse kahte triipus�rki kaubalaeva madrust sadamakail laulmas kapitalistliku maailma meremeeste raskest elust ja sellest, kuidas tollase NSV Liidu lipu all s�itvad laevad sisendasid r�hututesse lootust: �Me n�eme lippe, millel rahva saatus: / n�lg, orjus, dollar, k�si siduv kett. / Ja nende all on madrus kodumaatu / nii kodumaal kui keset ulguvett. // Ja eha nende maade kohal ripub / kui tasumiselahingute loit. / Me laev viib sinna v�itja rahva lipu, / nii punava kui tormieelne koit. // Laev m��dab miile vindi v�imsal tuksel, / ja kiilvee joom on p�rlendav ja lai. / Lipp leegib ahtris. Ta on v�itluskutse, / on vabadus, on esimene mai.� Niisugust laulu laulsid siis kaks kaubalaevastiku madrust �hes ENSV sadamas 1948. aastal. Aga aastad on olnud halastamatud ja punalipp asendunud sini-must-valgega.
Ja siit sirgubki probleem. Mida peaks sini-must-valge eestikeelsus Volbri��l ja Esimesel Mail tegema? Kas peaks ohtralt alkoholi tarvitama ja ennast n.-�. vabaks laaberdama nagu kunagised balti-saksa-keelsed (ja Landeswehri-meelsed) Tartu �likooli korporandid? Kas peaks viinapudeleid sillutisele puruks pilduma nagu K�esoleva Eesti Vabariigi eestikeelseks integreeruv noorsugu? V�i peaks Esimese Mai hommikul hoopis punaste lippude all marssima Kadriorgu �Russalka� juurde nagu 1922. aastal ja n�udma t�nase Reformierakonna poolt juba mitu aastat tagasi lubatud 9000-kroonist keskmist palka? T�epoolest. Kuidas olla Esimesel Mail?
Vastus k�lab � olgem r��msad, aga see-eest ka kained! Ehk nagu kirjutas juba enne Esimest maailmas�da Gustav Suits oma kuulsas luuletuses �Maip�ha�: �Rongk�igus punast lippu lipu j�rel linna s�rval / kannab hulk n��d tuhatp�ine astudes �ksteise k�rval, / ametkonniti t��rahvast, vaevan�olist, koltund kurdu, / j�ndrikke ja turde mehi, naisi, lapsi nagu murdu. / Muusikakoor, rahvasaadik, tr�kiladuja ja pagar, / sepp ja r�tsep, puusepp, kingsepp, tehast�drukute sagar, / masinist, poesell, veomees, mustt��line ja pesunaine, k�ik nad �hissammu summas, sammus uskumus ja paine, / p�hitsedes rituaali esimese mai see jalgel / M�nnim�ele rongis l�evad p�hap�evaks pestud palgel.� Muuseas, selle imelise luuletuse l�pul astub m�ngu ka �ks Sotsiaaldemokraat (meie t�nases kontekstis siis M��dukas!), kelle kohta klassik �tleb: �Ei h��a ta v�itlusse barrikaadil, / muid h�dadest soovitab p��steredeleid. / punap�skne soov sotsiaaldemokraadil � / enam valimissedeleid. / On eneseohverdus aulik, kuid vale. / See meeldib pea igale kuulajale.�
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Ent tulgem asja tuuma juurde. Kahtlemata on t�nase eestikeelse kultuuriteadvuse �ks r�ngemaid probleeme seotud just Esimese Maiga. Mida sel p�eval ikkagi teha? Kuidas k�ituda? Kusjuures see pole mitte ainult endiste ensv-laste � kes me ju peaaegu k�ik paraku oleme! � probleem. See on Euroopa (Liidu) probleem. Kindlasti on Esimene Mai t�nase Euroopa kultuuriteadvuse k�ige intrigeerivam ja samas ka integreerivam komponent. Ootusp�raselt on selle nn. mai-fenomeni algus antiigis. Just selles �rg-Euroopas olevat juba tuhandeid aastaid tagasi austatud jumalannat nimega Maia, kes olevat olnud seotud viljakusega. Ja vanad roomlased olevat tema auks koguni �he kalendrikuu teinud, nn. Maius Mensis, mille esimesel p�eval olevat ohverdatud just Maiale. Seej�rel aga siseneb nn. mai-diskursusesse �ks kristlik naisterahvas. See on Inglismaalt p�rit Walburga (soomlased nimetavad teda lihtsalt Vappu), kes oli aastail 761 � 779 Saksamaal Heidenheimi kloostri abtiss ja kes hiljem kuulutati p�hakuks. Walburga maiste j��nuste �mbermatmine olevat toimunud just ��l vastu 1. maid ja just see �� sai hiljem millegip�rast tuntuks kui Walpurgi�� (saksa keeli Walpurgisnacht, eesti keeli ka Volbri��). Seda t�histati �ise laaberdamise ja hooramisega. Rahvauskumuse j�rgi s�itsid n�iad sel ��l luua v�i soku seljas Saksamaal Blocksbergi m�ele kuraditega pidutsema. Kummaline k�ll, et too katoliiklik naisp�hak hakkas Volbri�� kontekstis m�rgistama just kuradeid ja n�idumist. Ent nii see on ja isegi Johann Wolfgang Goethe laseb oma kuradil, Mefistofesel Faustile �telda: �Verlangst du nicht nach einem Besenstiele? / Ich w�nschte mir den allerderbsten Bock� (eesti keeli: �Kas endale sa luuavart ei sooviks? / N��d peru sokk mind p�rale viiks pea�). Tundub, et vana Goethegi soovitaks meil Volbri��l luuavarrega v�i soku seljas Blocksbergi m�ele s�ita/lennata.
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See selleks. Eesti j��b niikuinii Venemaa k�lje alla tilbendama. Seda tunnistas k�ige ausamalt nn. N�ukogude Eesti, mille kunagisi mai-meeleolusid v�ga intrigeerivalt kujutas Juhan Smuul luuletuses �Mai�htu� (1948). Selles kirjeldatakse kahte triipus�rki kaubalaeva madrust sadamakail laulmas kapitalistliku maailma meremeeste raskest elust ja sellest, kuidas tollase NSV Liidu lipu all s�itvad laevad sisendasid r�hututesse lootust: �Me n�eme lippe, millel rahva saatus: / n�lg, orjus, dollar, k�si siduv kett. / Ja nende all on madrus kodumaatu / nii kodumaal kui keset ulguvett. // Ja eha nende maade kohal ripub / kui tasumiselahingute loit. / Me laev viib sinna v�itja rahva lipu, / nii punava kui tormieelne koit. // Laev m��dab miile vindi v�imsal tuksel, / ja kiilvee joom on p�rlendav ja lai. / Lipp leegib ahtris. Ta on v�itluskutse, / on vabadus, on esimene mai.� Niisugust laulu laulsid siis kaks kaubalaevastiku madrust �hes ENSV sadamas 1948. aastal. Aga aastad on olnud halastamatud ja punalipp asendunud sini-must-valgega.
Ja siit sirgubki probleem. Mida peaks sini-must-valge eestikeelsus Volbri��l ja Esimesel Mail tegema? Kas peaks ohtralt alkoholi tarvitama ja ennast n.-�. vabaks laaberdama nagu kunagised balti-saksa-keelsed (ja Landeswehri-meelsed) Tartu �likooli korporandid? Kas peaks viinapudeleid sillutisele puruks pilduma nagu K�esoleva Eesti Vabariigi eestikeelseks integreeruv noorsugu? V�i peaks Esimese Mai hommikul hoopis punaste lippude all marssima Kadriorgu �Russalka� juurde nagu 1922. aastal ja n�udma t�nase Reformierakonna poolt juba mitu aastat tagasi lubatud 9000-kroonist keskmist palka? T�epoolest. Kuidas olla Esimesel Mail?
Vastus k�lab � olgem r��msad, aga see-eest ka kained! Ehk nagu kirjutas juba enne Esimest maailmas�da Gustav Suits oma kuulsas luuletuses �Maip�ha�: �Rongk�igus punast lippu lipu j�rel linna s�rval / kannab hulk n��d tuhatp�ine astudes �ksteise k�rval, / ametkonniti t��rahvast, vaevan�olist, koltund kurdu, / j�ndrikke ja turde mehi, naisi, lapsi nagu murdu. / Muusikakoor, rahvasaadik, tr�kiladuja ja pagar, / sepp ja r�tsep, puusepp, kingsepp, tehast�drukute sagar, / masinist, poesell, veomees, mustt��line ja pesunaine, k�ik nad �hissammu summas, sammus uskumus ja paine, / p�hitsedes rituaali esimese mai see jalgel / M�nnim�ele rongis l�evad p�hap�evaks pestud palgel.� Muuseas, selle imelise luuletuse l�pul astub m�ngu ka �ks Sotsiaaldemokraat (meie t�nases kontekstis siis M��dukas!), kelle kohta klassik �tleb: �Ei h��a ta v�itlusse barrikaadil, / muid h�dadest soovitab p��steredeleid. / punap�skne soov sotsiaaldemokraadil � / enam valimissedeleid. / On eneseohverdus aulik, kuid vale. / See meeldib pea igale kuulajale.�
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22 March 2018 22:04
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http://www.sirp.ee/archive/2002/26.04.02/Sots/sots1-4.html
TOOMAS LIIV // Walburgast, volbrist ja sotsiaaldemokraatiast
Aeg aga l�ks ja k�mnendid muudkui kadusid. Euroopa Euroopaks, ent ei magatud ka ookeani taga. Neil seal ei olnud aga vaja ei luuavart ega hoorat��d. Nendel oli vaja hoopis 8-tunnist t��p�eva. Nii hakkasidki 1886. aasta 1. mail Chicago t��lised oma j�udu demonstreerima. V�ime ju (ENSV maidemonstratsioonide analoogiat kasutades) �sna h�sti ette kujutada neid ingliskeelseid proletaarlasi k�rgete majade taustal meelt avaldamas. 1886. aastal viis see paraku kokkup�rkeni politseiga, ja siis astus m�ngu t��lisklassi organiseeritus, Teine Internatsionaal, mis v�ttis vastu otsuse korraldada juba igal aastal 1. mail meeleavaldusi. See t�hendab, et proletaarse mai-diskursuse sisuline algus on meie t�nases ideaalriigis, ja ega siis USA-st saa midagi halba tulla. Niisiis � Esimene Mai kui proletariaadi v�itluslik pidup�ev on USA-likku algup�ra ja seet�ttu ka t�nases Eesti Vabariigis kohustuslikus korras aktsepteeritav kui t�eline demokraatia pidup�ev. T�pselt niisamuti kui Halloween v�i Oscarite jagamine. See t�hendab seda, et eestlased lihtsalt peavad Esimesel Mail tulema t��lisklassi meeleavaldusele. Seda isegi siis, kui Eestis t��lisklassi enam ei olegi. Sel juhul peab solidaarsust demonstreerima Teine Eesti, s.t. Eesti edukate poolt paljaks varastatud pension�rid, t�ies t��j�us asotsiaalid ja k�ikide vaeste eestlaste lapsed. Teisis�nu.
Esimene Mai on nagu Eurovisiooni lauluv�istluse korraldamine. Sellest ei p��se. Muuseas. Eestis t�histati proletaarlaste Esimest Maid esimest korda juba 1899. aastal lendlehtede levitamisega ja m�ni aasta hiljem hakati ka miitingut pidama. Et asjale aga ka idapoolsemat ehk euroopalikku jumet anda, toogem n��d m�ngu Vladimir Iljit� Lenin, kes aastal 1917 Venemaal toimunud mai-s�ndmuste kohta kirjutas: �Siis oli see revolutsiooni ja tema kangelaste esimese v�idu �ldine p�hitsemine, rahva tagasivaade tema poolt k�ige kiiremini ja k�ige edukamalt �rak�idud esimesele etapile vabaduse teel. Esimene mai oli �lemaailmse t��lisliikumise ajalooga, tema rahu ja sotsialismi ideaaliga seotud soovide ja lootuste pidup�ev.� (V. I. Lenin.Valitud teosed, 7. k�ide.Tallinn 1988, lk. 213-214) Eriti tormiliseks kujunes see p�hitsemine ja pidup�ev teatavasti 1922. aastal Tallinnas Kadriorus. Muuseas, just siis v�eti kinni Viktor Kingissepp, kes paar p�eva hiljem s�jakohtu otsusel ka maha lasti.
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T�epoolest. Kevad on k�es! Kalender funktsioneerib! Ent kalender on kalender, s.t. vaid �ks v�imalikest astronoomiatest. Kuid kahtlemata on kalender just see matemaatiline telg, see eksistentsiaalne ora, mis meid k�iki p�evakaupa t�keldab ehk dekonstrueerib. Kusjuures ma ei ole t�naseni selgeks saanud, miks on veebruarikuus m�nikord 28 ja m�nikord j�lle 29 p�eva. Ja miks siis tuleb just 30-p�evane aprill. Aga olgu. Maikuus on see-eest juba 31 p�eva, ja esimene neist on kindlasti Esimene Mai. See on erakordselt t�htis. See on just see kalendaarne kirvehoop, mis l�bi sajandite on l�hestanud euroopalikku teadvust mingi sotsiaalse purskena, mingi ideoloogilise orgasmina. See on alati olnud n.-�. t�histatav. T�nase Eesti kalendrites on see nn. punane p�ev, millel imearmsaks nimeks Kevadp�ha. Ingliskeelses maailmas �eldakse niisama armsasti May Day, mida olevat t�histatud Maikuninganna kroonimisega ja tantsimisega mingi lillede ning lintidega dekoreeritud Maiteiba �mber. Soomlased seevastu nimetavad seda ilusat p�ha (soome keeli Vappu) hoopis T�� p�haks. Nemad peavad siis T��d Kevadest t�htsamaks. Ent eks meilgi olnud veel paark�mmend aastat tagasi selle kevadp�eva nimetuseks �t��rahva rahvusvahelise solidaarsuse p�ev�. Meile oli siis Kevadest ja T��st olulisem hoopis T��rahva Rahvusvaheline Solidaarsus. Nii ongi siin tegemist teatava semiootilise seadeldisega, mingi kalendaarse karnevaliga, mille aluseks on bioloogia, ent mille ideoloogiat on alatasa kohendatud vastavalt poliitilistele eesm�rkidele. Tegemist on kahtlemata mingi euroopaliku sakraalsusega, mis on juba ammu �p�hitsetud� ja mida ometi peab veelgi igal aastal uuesti �p�hitsema�.
TOOMAS LIIV // Walburgast, volbrist ja sotsiaaldemokraatiast
Aeg aga l�ks ja k�mnendid muudkui kadusid. Euroopa Euroopaks, ent ei magatud ka ookeani taga. Neil seal ei olnud aga vaja ei luuavart ega hoorat��d. Nendel oli vaja hoopis 8-tunnist t��p�eva. Nii hakkasidki 1886. aasta 1. mail Chicago t��lised oma j�udu demonstreerima. V�ime ju (ENSV maidemonstratsioonide analoogiat kasutades) �sna h�sti ette kujutada neid ingliskeelseid proletaarlasi k�rgete majade taustal meelt avaldamas. 1886. aastal viis see paraku kokkup�rkeni politseiga, ja siis astus m�ngu t��lisklassi organiseeritus, Teine Internatsionaal, mis v�ttis vastu otsuse korraldada juba igal aastal 1. mail meeleavaldusi. See t�hendab, et proletaarse mai-diskursuse sisuline algus on meie t�nases ideaalriigis, ja ega siis USA-st saa midagi halba tulla. Niisiis � Esimene Mai kui proletariaadi v�itluslik pidup�ev on USA-likku algup�ra ja seet�ttu ka t�nases Eesti Vabariigis kohustuslikus korras aktsepteeritav kui t�eline demokraatia pidup�ev. T�pselt niisamuti kui Halloween v�i Oscarite jagamine. See t�hendab seda, et eestlased lihtsalt peavad Esimesel Mail tulema t��lisklassi meeleavaldusele. Seda isegi siis, kui Eestis t��lisklassi enam ei olegi. Sel juhul peab solidaarsust demonstreerima Teine Eesti, s.t. Eesti edukate poolt paljaks varastatud pension�rid, t�ies t��j�us asotsiaalid ja k�ikide vaeste eestlaste lapsed. Teisis�nu.
Esimene Mai on nagu Eurovisiooni lauluv�istluse korraldamine. Sellest ei p��se. Muuseas. Eestis t�histati proletaarlaste Esimest Maid esimest korda juba 1899. aastal lendlehtede levitamisega ja m�ni aasta hiljem hakati ka miitingut pidama. Et asjale aga ka idapoolsemat ehk euroopalikku jumet anda, toogem n��d m�ngu Vladimir Iljit� Lenin, kes aastal 1917 Venemaal toimunud mai-s�ndmuste kohta kirjutas: �Siis oli see revolutsiooni ja tema kangelaste esimese v�idu �ldine p�hitsemine, rahva tagasivaade tema poolt k�ige kiiremini ja k�ige edukamalt �rak�idud esimesele etapile vabaduse teel. Esimene mai oli �lemaailmse t��lisliikumise ajalooga, tema rahu ja sotsialismi ideaaliga seotud soovide ja lootuste pidup�ev.� (V. I. Lenin.Valitud teosed, 7. k�ide.Tallinn 1988, lk. 213-214) Eriti tormiliseks kujunes see p�hitsemine ja pidup�ev teatavasti 1922. aastal Tallinnas Kadriorus. Muuseas, just siis v�eti kinni Viktor Kingissepp, kes paar p�eva hiljem s�jakohtu otsusel ka maha lasti.
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T�epoolest. Kevad on k�es! Kalender funktsioneerib! Ent kalender on kalender, s.t. vaid �ks v�imalikest astronoomiatest. Kuid kahtlemata on kalender just see matemaatiline telg, see eksistentsiaalne ora, mis meid k�iki p�evakaupa t�keldab ehk dekonstrueerib. Kusjuures ma ei ole t�naseni selgeks saanud, miks on veebruarikuus m�nikord 28 ja m�nikord j�lle 29 p�eva. Ja miks siis tuleb just 30-p�evane aprill. Aga olgu. Maikuus on see-eest juba 31 p�eva, ja esimene neist on kindlasti Esimene Mai. See on erakordselt t�htis. See on just see kalendaarne kirvehoop, mis l�bi sajandite on l�hestanud euroopalikku teadvust mingi sotsiaalse purskena, mingi ideoloogilise orgasmina. See on alati olnud n.-�. t�histatav. T�nase Eesti kalendrites on see nn. punane p�ev, millel imearmsaks nimeks Kevadp�ha. Ingliskeelses maailmas �eldakse niisama armsasti May Day, mida olevat t�histatud Maikuninganna kroonimisega ja tantsimisega mingi lillede ning lintidega dekoreeritud Maiteiba �mber. Soomlased seevastu nimetavad seda ilusat p�ha (soome keeli Vappu) hoopis T�� p�haks. Nemad peavad siis T��d Kevadest t�htsamaks. Ent eks meilgi olnud veel paark�mmend aastat tagasi selle kevadp�eva nimetuseks �t��rahva rahvusvahelise solidaarsuse p�ev�. Meile oli siis Kevadest ja T��st olulisem hoopis T��rahva Rahvusvaheline Solidaarsus. Nii ongi siin tegemist teatava semiootilise seadeldisega, mingi kalendaarse karnevaliga, mille aluseks on bioloogia, ent mille ideoloogiat on alatasa kohendatud vastavalt poliitilistele eesm�rkidele. Tegemist on kahtlemata mingi euroopaliku sakraalsusega, mis on juba ammu �p�hitsetud� ja mida ometi peab veelgi igal aastal uuesti �p�hitsema�.
http://www.sirp.ee/archive/2002/26.04.02/Sots/sots1-4.html
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Erakonna esimees: Marju Lauristin 06.1990–08.09.1990.
Vene Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Partei Eestis (VSDPE)muuda lähteteksti
Next.svg Pikemalt artiklis Vene Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Partei Eestis.
Erakonna esimees: Jossiv Jurovski 02.1990–08.09.1990
Eesti Sotsialistliku Partei Välismaa Koondis (ESPVK)muuda lähteteksti
Next.svg Pikemalt artiklis Eesti Sotsialistliku Partei Välismaa Koondis.
Asutatud pärast Teist maailmasõda Rootsis. Eksiili läinud Eesti Vabariigi ajal tegutsenud Eesti Sotsialistliku Tööliste Partei jätk.
Erakonna esimees: Johannes Mihkelson
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Next.svg Pikemalt artiklis Eesti Maa-Keskerakond.
Asutatud 7.04.1990 Türil. Erakonna asutamist valmistati ette väga pikalt, selle juures olid Eestimaa Rahvarinne, Eestimaa Talupidajate Keskliit ja Eesti Maaliit (EML). Uue partei eesmärgiks oli liita kokku talunike ühendus ja Eesti Maaliit (EML), kes küll hiljem sellest distantseerus ja muutus ise erakonnaks. Eksiilis tegutsenud Ühinenud Põllumeeste ja Väikemaapidajate Kogud, mis 1962 muudeti Eesti Demokraatlikuks Uniooniks, tunnistas EMKE oma poliitiliseks järglaseks. EMKE osales Tsentristide Rahvusvahelise Koostöövõrgu (INC) töös vaatlejaliikmena. EMKE programm kaldus Põhjamaade sõsarparteide (Põhjala Keskparteide) kombel modernsesse liberalismi (sotsiaal-liberalismi). Logol oli kujutatud ristikheina.
Erakonna esimehed: Vambo Kaal 12.11.1994–28.04.1996, Ivar Raig 07.04.1990–12.11.1994.
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Asutati 05.04.1998, kui ühinesid Vabariiklaste ja Konservatiivide Rahvaerakond (VKRE) ja Eesti Talurahva Erakond (ETRE). Erakond oli selgelt jagunenud parempoolseks ja agraarseks tiivaks. Neist valdavalt agraartiib ühines Mõõdukatega. Ülejäänud leer Rahvaerakonnast lahkus valdavalt Isamaaliitu.
Erakonna esimees: Toomas Hendrik Ilves 05.04.1998–27.11.1999.
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Next.svg Pikemalt artiklis Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Partei.
Asutati 09.1994, kui eraldus Rahvuslikust Koonderakonnast Isamaa (RKEI).
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Next.svg Pikemalt artiklis Eesti Talurahva Erakond.
Asutati 05.11.1994.
Erakonna esimees: Jaan-Hans Kuks 05.11.1994–05.1998.
Ajalugu liitumiste järelmuuda lähteteksti
Aastatel 2002-2009 oli Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Erakonna (esialgu Mõõdukate) esimees Ivari Padar. 2009. aasta märtsis valiti erakonna liidriks Jüri Pihl ning juhatusse peasekretär Randel Länts, Peeter Kreitzberg, Katrin Saks, Indrek Saar, Marju Lauristin, Eiki Nestor, Ivari Padar, Tõnu Ints, Epp Klooster, Reet Laja, Jarno Laur, Marianne Mikko, Sven Mikser, Jüri Morozov, Heljo Pikhof, Kadi Pärnits, Maris Sild, Kaido Tamberg ja Rannar Vassiljev.
16. oktoobril 2010 valis Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Erakonna üldkogu erakonna esimeheks Sven Mikseri. 2015. aasta 30. mail valis Pärnus koos olnud erakonna üldkogu Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Erakonna uueks esimeheks Jevgeni Ossinovski.
Valitsuse liikmedmuuda lähteteksti
Taavi Rõivase teise valitsusse kuulusid järgmised SDE ministrid:
Hannes Hanso, kaitseminister (varem Sven Mikser)
Indrek Saar, kultuuriminister
Liisa Oviir, ettevõtlusminister (varem Urve Palo)
Jevgeni Ossinovski, tervise- ja tööminister (varem Rannar Vassiljev)
Jüri Ratase juhitud valitsusse kuuluvad järgmised SDE ministrid:
Jevgeni Ossinovski, tervise- ja tööminister
Indrek Saar, kultuuriminister
Sven Mikser, välisminister
Andres Anvelt, siseminister
Urve Palo, ettevõtlus- ja infotehnoloogiaminister
Riigikogu liikmedmuuda lähteteksti
XIII Riigikogumuuda lähteteksti
Hardi Volmer, õiguskomisjoni liige
Helmen Kütt, sotsiaalkomisjoni esimees
Liisa Oviir, fraktsiooni aseesimees
Kalvi Kõva, fraktsiooni esimees
Marianne Mikko, riigikaitsekomisjoni liige
Rainer Vakra, keskkonnakomisjoni esimees
Eiki Nestor, Riigikogu esimees
Toomas Jürgenstein, kultuurikomisjoni liige
Heljo Pikhof, fraktsiooni aseesimees
Inara Luigas, maaelukomisjoni liige
Ivari Padar, põhiseaduskomisjoni liige
Barbi Pilvre, väliskomisjoni liige
Tanel Talve, rahanduskomisjoni liige
Hannes Hanso, riigikaitsekomisjoni esimees
Jaanus Marrandi, majanduskomisjoni liige
XII Riigikogumuuda lähteteksti
Karel Rüütli, fraktsiooni esimees
Kalev Kotkas, fraktsiooni aseesimees
Indrek Saar, fraktsiooni aseesimees
Jaak Allik
Barbi Pilvre
Etti Kagarov
Kalvi Kõva, maaelukomisjoni esimees
Tatjana Jaanson
Mart Meri
Marianne Mikko
Jüri Morozov
Maimu Berg
Tiit Tammsaar
Heljo Pikhof, sotsiaalkomisjoni esimees
Rein Randver
Eiki Nestor, Riigikogu esimees
Neeme Suur, õiguskomisjoni esimees
Rannar Vassiljev, rahanduskomisjoni esimees
Jaan Õunapuu
Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad SDE liikmed
Rainer Vakra
Inara Luigas
XI Riigikogumuuda lähteteksti
Eiki Nestor, fraktsiooni esimees
Indrek Saar, fraktsiooni aseesimees
Hannes Rumm
Peeter Kreitzberg
Jüri Tamm
Heljo Pikhof
Kalev Kotkas
Kalvi Kõva
X Riigikogumuuda lähteteksti
Ivari Padar fraktsiooni esimees
Eiki Nestor fraktsiooni aseesimees
Kadi Pärnits
Mart Meri
Jarno Laur
Jüri Tamm
Peeter Kreitzberg
Sven Mikser
Erakonna esimees: Marju Lauristin 06.1990–08.09.1990.
Vene Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Partei Eestis (VSDPE)muuda lähteteksti
Next.svg Pikemalt artiklis Vene Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Partei Eestis.
Erakonna esimees: Jossiv Jurovski 02.1990–08.09.1990
Eesti Sotsialistliku Partei Välismaa Koondis (ESPVK)muuda lähteteksti
Next.svg Pikemalt artiklis Eesti Sotsialistliku Partei Välismaa Koondis.
Asutatud pärast Teist maailmasõda Rootsis. Eksiili läinud Eesti Vabariigi ajal tegutsenud Eesti Sotsialistliku Tööliste Partei jätk.
Erakonna esimees: Johannes Mihkelson
Eesti Maa-Keskerakond (EMKE)muuda lähteteksti
Next.svg Pikemalt artiklis Eesti Maa-Keskerakond.
Asutatud 7.04.1990 Türil. Erakonna asutamist valmistati ette väga pikalt, selle juures olid Eestimaa Rahvarinne, Eestimaa Talupidajate Keskliit ja Eesti Maaliit (EML). Uue partei eesmärgiks oli liita kokku talunike ühendus ja Eesti Maaliit (EML), kes küll hiljem sellest distantseerus ja muutus ise erakonnaks. Eksiilis tegutsenud Ühinenud Põllumeeste ja Väikemaapidajate Kogud, mis 1962 muudeti Eesti Demokraatlikuks Uniooniks, tunnistas EMKE oma poliitiliseks järglaseks. EMKE osales Tsentristide Rahvusvahelise Koostöövõrgu (INC) töös vaatlejaliikmena. EMKE programm kaldus Põhjamaade sõsarparteide (Põhjala Keskparteide) kombel modernsesse liberalismi (sotsiaal-liberalismi). Logol oli kujutatud ristikheina.
Erakonna esimehed: Vambo Kaal 12.11.1994–28.04.1996, Ivar Raig 07.04.1990–12.11.1994.
Rahvaerakond (R)muuda lähteteksti
Next.svg Pikemalt artiklis Rahvaerakond.
Asutati 05.04.1998, kui ühinesid Vabariiklaste ja Konservatiivide Rahvaerakond (VKRE) ja Eesti Talurahva Erakond (ETRE). Erakond oli selgelt jagunenud parempoolseks ja agraarseks tiivaks. Neist valdavalt agraartiib ühines Mõõdukatega. Ülejäänud leer Rahvaerakonnast lahkus valdavalt Isamaaliitu.
Erakonna esimees: Toomas Hendrik Ilves 05.04.1998–27.11.1999.
Vabariiklaste ja Konservatiivide Rahvaerakond (VKRE)muuda lähteteksti
Next.svg Pikemalt artiklis Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Partei.
Asutati 09.1994, kui eraldus Rahvuslikust Koonderakonnast Isamaa (RKEI).
Eesti Talurahva Erakond (ETRE)muuda lähteteksti
Next.svg Pikemalt artiklis Eesti Talurahva Erakond.
Asutati 05.11.1994.
Erakonna esimees: Jaan-Hans Kuks 05.11.1994–05.1998.
Ajalugu liitumiste järelmuuda lähteteksti
Aastatel 2002-2009 oli Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Erakonna (esialgu Mõõdukate) esimees Ivari Padar. 2009. aasta märtsis valiti erakonna liidriks Jüri Pihl ning juhatusse peasekretär Randel Länts, Peeter Kreitzberg, Katrin Saks, Indrek Saar, Marju Lauristin, Eiki Nestor, Ivari Padar, Tõnu Ints, Epp Klooster, Reet Laja, Jarno Laur, Marianne Mikko, Sven Mikser, Jüri Morozov, Heljo Pikhof, Kadi Pärnits, Maris Sild, Kaido Tamberg ja Rannar Vassiljev.
16. oktoobril 2010 valis Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Erakonna üldkogu erakonna esimeheks Sven Mikseri. 2015. aasta 30. mail valis Pärnus koos olnud erakonna üldkogu Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Erakonna uueks esimeheks Jevgeni Ossinovski.
Valitsuse liikmedmuuda lähteteksti
Taavi Rõivase teise valitsusse kuulusid järgmised SDE ministrid:
Hannes Hanso, kaitseminister (varem Sven Mikser)
Indrek Saar, kultuuriminister
Liisa Oviir, ettevõtlusminister (varem Urve Palo)
Jevgeni Ossinovski, tervise- ja tööminister (varem Rannar Vassiljev)
Jüri Ratase juhitud valitsusse kuuluvad järgmised SDE ministrid:
Jevgeni Ossinovski, tervise- ja tööminister
Indrek Saar, kultuuriminister
Sven Mikser, välisminister
Andres Anvelt, siseminister
Urve Palo, ettevõtlus- ja infotehnoloogiaminister
Riigikogu liikmedmuuda lähteteksti
XIII Riigikogumuuda lähteteksti
Hardi Volmer, õiguskomisjoni liige
Helmen Kütt, sotsiaalkomisjoni esimees
Liisa Oviir, fraktsiooni aseesimees
Kalvi Kõva, fraktsiooni esimees
Marianne Mikko, riigikaitsekomisjoni liige
Rainer Vakra, keskkonnakomisjoni esimees
Eiki Nestor, Riigikogu esimees
Toomas Jürgenstein, kultuurikomisjoni liige
Heljo Pikhof, fraktsiooni aseesimees
Inara Luigas, maaelukomisjoni liige
Ivari Padar, põhiseaduskomisjoni liige
Barbi Pilvre, väliskomisjoni liige
Tanel Talve, rahanduskomisjoni liige
Hannes Hanso, riigikaitsekomisjoni esimees
Jaanus Marrandi, majanduskomisjoni liige
XII Riigikogumuuda lähteteksti
Karel Rüütli, fraktsiooni esimees
Kalev Kotkas, fraktsiooni aseesimees
Indrek Saar, fraktsiooni aseesimees
Jaak Allik
Barbi Pilvre
Etti Kagarov
Kalvi Kõva, maaelukomisjoni esimees
Tatjana Jaanson
Mart Meri
Marianne Mikko
Jüri Morozov
Maimu Berg
Tiit Tammsaar
Heljo Pikhof, sotsiaalkomisjoni esimees
Rein Randver
Eiki Nestor, Riigikogu esimees
Neeme Suur, õiguskomisjoni esimees
Rannar Vassiljev, rahanduskomisjoni esimees
Jaan Õunapuu
Fraktsiooni mittekuuluvad SDE liikmed
Rainer Vakra
Inara Luigas
XI Riigikogumuuda lähteteksti
Eiki Nestor, fraktsiooni esimees
Indrek Saar, fraktsiooni aseesimees
Hannes Rumm
Peeter Kreitzberg
Jüri Tamm
Heljo Pikhof
Kalev Kotkas
Kalvi Kõva
X Riigikogumuuda lähteteksti
Ivari Padar fraktsiooni esimees
Eiki Nestor fraktsiooni aseesimees
Kadi Pärnits
Mart Meri
Jarno Laur
Jüri Tamm
Peeter Kreitzberg
Sven Mikser
22 March 2018 22:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.riigikogu.ee/riigikogu/fraktsioonid/sotsiaaldemokraatliku-erakonna-fraktsioon/
http://vikipeedia.ee/SDE
https://et.unionpedia.org/i/Sotsiaaldemokraatia
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sotsiaaldemokraatia
https://wikivividly.com/lang-et/wiki/Sotsiaaldemokraatlik_Erakond
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sotsiaaldemokraatlik_Erakond
http://www.socialistinernational.org/
http://www.sotsid.ee/erakond/ajalugu/
"esti sotsiaaldemokraadid kuulusid Sotsialistlikku Internatsionaali juba enne teist maailmasõda ja nende liikmestaatus taastati pärast Eesti taasiseseisvumist. Järjepidevuse kandvaks jõuks peetakse paguluses tegutsenud Eesti Sotsialistliku Partei Välismaa Koondist, mis ühines koos kolme muu erakonnaga 1990. aasta septembris Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlikuks Parteiks. Seda asus juhtima praegune SDE europarlamendi saadik Marju Lauristin"
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" SDE eelkäija Mõõdukad tekkis 1996. aastal Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Partei ja Eesti Maa-Keskerakonna liitumisel. 7. veebruaril 2004 nimetati Rahvaerakond Mõõdukad ümber Sotsiaaldemokraatlikuks Erakonnaks.
Erakond kuulub Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Partei ajast (aastast 1990) Sotsialistliku Internatsionaali (inglise keeles Socialist International), Euroopas Euroopa Sotsialistide Parteisse (Party of the European Socialists). "
" Erakonna sümbol on punane roos. Erakonna hümn erinevalt teistest Euroopa sotsiaaldemokraatidest ei ole "Internatsionaal". "
// Aga mis see on?
Sotsialistide-Revolutsionääride Partei (lühend SR; vene Партия социалистов-революционеров) oli 20. sajandi algupoolel tegutsenud partei Venemaa keisririigis.
Sotsialistlik Internatsionaal (SI) on rahvusvaheline organisatsioon, mis ühendab sotsiaaldemokraatlikke ja sotsialistlikke parteisid ja organisatsioone.
https://et.unionpedia.org/c/Sotsiaaldemokraatia/vs/Sotsialistlik_Internatsionaal
"Sotsiaaldemokraatlik liikumine Eestis on Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Erakonna ametliku seisukoha kohaselt vanim järjepidevalt tegutsev erakond, mille ideoloogiaga seotud liikumine tekkis 1905. aastal. 1919. aastal võtsid tollased sotsparteid Asutava Kogu valimistel kolmveerand kohtadest. Eesti sotsiaaldemokraadid kuulusid Sotsialistlikku Internatsionaali juba enne Teist maailmasõda ja nende liikmestaatus taastati pärast Eesti taasiseseisvumist. Järjepidevuse kandvaks jõuks loetakse paguluses tegutsenud Eesti Sotsialistliku Partei Välismaa Koondis, mis liitus koos kolme muu erakonnaga septembris 1990 Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlikuks Parteiks (esimees Marju Lauristin).
SDE eelkäija Mõõdukad tekkis 1996. aastal Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Partei (selle viimane juht oli Eiki Nestor) ja Eesti Maa-Keskerakonna (selle viimane juht oli Vambo Kaal) liitumisel. Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Partei tekkis 1990. aastal. "
Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Partei (ESDP)muuda lähteteksti
Next.svg Pikemalt artiklis Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Partei.
Asutati 8. septembril 1990 Tallinnas, kui ühinesid Eesti Demokraatlik Tööerakond (EDTE), Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Iseseisvuspartei (ESDIP) ja Vene Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Partei Eestis (VSDPE), samuti Rootsis pärast Teist maailmasõda tegutsenud Eesti Sotsialistliku Partei Välismaa Koondis (ESPVK). ESDP sai oktoobris 1990 Sotsialistliku Internatsionaali (SI) täisliikmeks. Logoks oli punane roos.
Erakonna esimehed: Eiki Nestor 1995−28.04.1996, Marju Lauristin 8.09.1990–1995.
Eesti Demokraatlik Tööerakond (EDTE)muuda lähteteksti
Next.svg Pikemalt artiklis Eesti Demokraatlik Tööerakond.
Asutati 30.04.1989 (asutajaliikmeid 16). Kujunes välja Eestimaa Rahvarindest.
Erakonna esimees: Vello Saatpalu 30.04.1989–08.09.1990. EDTE pidas ennast Eesti Tööerakonna järeltulijaks.
Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Iseseisvuspartei (ESDIP)muuda lähteteksti
Next.svg Pikemalt artiklis Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Iseseisvuspartei.
Asutati juunis 1990, kujunes välja Eestimaa Rahvarindest.
http://vikipeedia.ee/SDE
https://et.unionpedia.org/i/Sotsiaaldemokraatia
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sotsiaaldemokraatia
https://wikivividly.com/lang-et/wiki/Sotsiaaldemokraatlik_Erakond
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sotsiaaldemokraatlik_Erakond
http://www.socialistinernational.org/
http://www.sotsid.ee/erakond/ajalugu/
"esti sotsiaaldemokraadid kuulusid Sotsialistlikku Internatsionaali juba enne teist maailmasõda ja nende liikmestaatus taastati pärast Eesti taasiseseisvumist. Järjepidevuse kandvaks jõuks peetakse paguluses tegutsenud Eesti Sotsialistliku Partei Välismaa Koondist, mis ühines koos kolme muu erakonnaga 1990. aasta septembris Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlikuks Parteiks. Seda asus juhtima praegune SDE europarlamendi saadik Marju Lauristin"
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" SDE eelkäija Mõõdukad tekkis 1996. aastal Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Partei ja Eesti Maa-Keskerakonna liitumisel. 7. veebruaril 2004 nimetati Rahvaerakond Mõõdukad ümber Sotsiaaldemokraatlikuks Erakonnaks.
Erakond kuulub Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Partei ajast (aastast 1990) Sotsialistliku Internatsionaali (inglise keeles Socialist International), Euroopas Euroopa Sotsialistide Parteisse (Party of the European Socialists). "
" Erakonna sümbol on punane roos. Erakonna hümn erinevalt teistest Euroopa sotsiaaldemokraatidest ei ole "Internatsionaal". "
// Aga mis see on?
Sotsialistide-Revolutsionääride Partei (lühend SR; vene Партия социалистов-революционеров) oli 20. sajandi algupoolel tegutsenud partei Venemaa keisririigis.
Sotsialistlik Internatsionaal (SI) on rahvusvaheline organisatsioon, mis ühendab sotsiaaldemokraatlikke ja sotsialistlikke parteisid ja organisatsioone.
https://et.unionpedia.org/c/Sotsiaaldemokraatia/vs/Sotsialistlik_Internatsionaal
"Sotsiaaldemokraatlik liikumine Eestis on Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Erakonna ametliku seisukoha kohaselt vanim järjepidevalt tegutsev erakond, mille ideoloogiaga seotud liikumine tekkis 1905. aastal. 1919. aastal võtsid tollased sotsparteid Asutava Kogu valimistel kolmveerand kohtadest. Eesti sotsiaaldemokraadid kuulusid Sotsialistlikku Internatsionaali juba enne Teist maailmasõda ja nende liikmestaatus taastati pärast Eesti taasiseseisvumist. Järjepidevuse kandvaks jõuks loetakse paguluses tegutsenud Eesti Sotsialistliku Partei Välismaa Koondis, mis liitus koos kolme muu erakonnaga septembris 1990 Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlikuks Parteiks (esimees Marju Lauristin).
SDE eelkäija Mõõdukad tekkis 1996. aastal Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatliku Partei (selle viimane juht oli Eiki Nestor) ja Eesti Maa-Keskerakonna (selle viimane juht oli Vambo Kaal) liitumisel. Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Partei tekkis 1990. aastal. "
Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Partei (ESDP)muuda lähteteksti
Next.svg Pikemalt artiklis Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Partei.
Asutati 8. septembril 1990 Tallinnas, kui ühinesid Eesti Demokraatlik Tööerakond (EDTE), Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Iseseisvuspartei (ESDIP) ja Vene Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Partei Eestis (VSDPE), samuti Rootsis pärast Teist maailmasõda tegutsenud Eesti Sotsialistliku Partei Välismaa Koondis (ESPVK). ESDP sai oktoobris 1990 Sotsialistliku Internatsionaali (SI) täisliikmeks. Logoks oli punane roos.
Erakonna esimehed: Eiki Nestor 1995−28.04.1996, Marju Lauristin 8.09.1990–1995.
Eesti Demokraatlik Tööerakond (EDTE)muuda lähteteksti
Next.svg Pikemalt artiklis Eesti Demokraatlik Tööerakond.
Asutati 30.04.1989 (asutajaliikmeid 16). Kujunes välja Eestimaa Rahvarindest.
Erakonna esimees: Vello Saatpalu 30.04.1989–08.09.1990. EDTE pidas ennast Eesti Tööerakonna järeltulijaks.
Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Iseseisvuspartei (ESDIP)muuda lähteteksti
Next.svg Pikemalt artiklis Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Iseseisvuspartei.
Asutati juunis 1990, kujunes välja Eestimaa Rahvarindest.
https://www.riigikogu.ee/riigikogu/fraktsioonid/sotsiaaldemokraatliku-erakonna-fraktsioon/
22 March 2018 22:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Erakonna ajalugusi:
https://www.e-varamu.ee/item/2TFAHSVJ6NQJQKB4YRB6M7AT5OC6EDWX
//1992 ajal :
EKDL oli Kristlik-Demokraatliku Internatsionaali liikmena esimene ja mõnda aega ka ainus rahvusvaheliselt tunnustatud Eesti erakond. EKDLi juhid, eeskätt Illar Hallaste ja Karin Jaani, said välismaalt arvukalt küllakutseid ja võisid seetõttu pidevalt mööda ilma ringi sõita.
(Pärast 1992: muutus parteimaastikul oli see, et venelaste seas kerkis kõige populaarsemaks poliitikuks Savisaar. Hiljuti veel nii vihatud Rahvarinde juhist tegi venelaste lemmikpoliitiku võimuhaaramise katse 1992. aasta jaanuaris, mille ta pani toime punakindralite ja internatside toel.)
//Veel enne seda:
Kuna erakonnal polnud algul raha isegi postmarkide ostmiseks, mõtlesid Reisner ja Arge välja skeemi, kuidas nõukogude korra absurdini küündiv silmakirjalikkus rahaks teha. Nagu patarei pluss- ja miinuspoole ühendamisel tekib alalisvool, nii tekkis ka lääne abivalmiduse ja nõukogude bürokraatia õigel viisil ühendamisest püsiv rahavool.
Selleks tuli hankida Nõukogude välispass ja võtta sinna väljasõiduviisa. Neid väljastati Tallinna vanalinnas Laial tänaval täpselt samas paigas, kus praegu asub Vene konsulaat.
Seejärel tuli minna Võidu väljakule ehk nüüdsele Vabaduse platsile. Seal oli ainsa Tallinnas tegutseva lennufirma Aerofloti kassa, kus tusase näoga tädi trükkis lennupiletile hinna nii rublades kui ka dollarites. Seejuures oli dollarihinna aluseks NSV Liidu riigipanga ametlik kurss, mille võis leida näiteks väliseestlaste hullutamiseks mõeldud ajalehe Kodumaa tagaküljelt. Tegelik kurss rahavahetuskohtades erines sellest kümneid kordi, sest rubla odavnes pöörase kiirusega. Kolme ja poole aastaga (1988 lõpp – 1992 märts) oli rublast alles jäänud ainult kolm kopikat, aga Nõukogude riigipank määras ametlikku kurssi ikka endistviisi lakke vaadates.
Tolleaegne välispoliitiline suhtlus käis lääneriikide kulu ja kirjadega, sest vaestel eestlastel polnud raha. Küllakutsuja hüvitas sõidukulud sulas, sest pangaülekanded Eesti elanikele või erakondadele olid mõeldamatud.
Trikk seisnes selles, et küllakutsuja maksis lennupileti kinni sellele trükitud dollarihinna järgi, aga Eestis sai nende dollarite eest kursivahe tõttu kümneid kordi rohkem rublasid, kui oli kulunud pileti ostmiseks. Selleks et vaheltkasu poliitikute isiklikku taskusse ei läheks, hakati sõidupileteid ostma erakonna raha eest ja seega tuli ka pileti eest saadud hüvitis tuua erakonna kassasse. Tulu oli nii suur, et sel moel rahastati EKDLi kõiki jooksvaid kulutusi. Lisaks koguti suur hulk raha 1992. aasta valimiskampaaniaks. EKDL oli valimisliidu Isamaa erakondadest ainus, millel oli kampaania alguseks valuutavaru, kokku umbes 8000 dollarit.
Karmi parteidistsipliiniga rahuolematutele reisipoliitikutele endile jäi lohutuseks taskuraha, milleks nõukogude võim vahetas rublade vastu välisvaluutat täpselt sama absurdse kursi järgi.
Kui Arge ja Reisner olid Aerofloti rahamasinaga juba veidi valuutat teeninud, otsustasid nad EKDLile mikrobussi soetada. Arge sõber Kristjan Moora, hilisem Eesti kaitseatašee Berliinis, vedas ülikoolis õppimise kõrvalt Soomest Eestisse kasutatud autosid. Mooral oli uskumatu anne panna sõitma mistahes riistapuu, millel veel vähegi auto tunnuseid oli. Peagi leidiski ta kuskilt Helsingi lähedalt EKDLile ühe vana naljaka kaheksakohalise Fordi.
1992 järgne aeg:
Kuni 1992. aasta kevadeni püsis Isamaa kõigist ponnistustes hoolimata Koonderakonna ja Rahva-Keskerakonna varjus. Valimisstaap vihtus palehigis tööd teha, aga sellest ei paistnud vähimatki tulu tõusvat.
EKE-Ariko märtsikuises küsitluses juhtis teiste ees pikalt Koonderakond (22,2 %), järgnesid Rahva-Keskerakond (11,2), Vene Demokraatlik Liit (7,9), ERSP (7,6) ja Maaliit (6,7). Kõikide ülejäänud erakondade, sealhulgas ka sotside ja kommunistide toetus oli allpool viit protsenti.
Isamaa populaarseim koostisosa oli EKDL (4,2). Vabariiklaste, EKRE ja EKDE toetus oli ühe protsendi kandis ehk väiksem kui statistiline viga. Sellegipoolest oli Isamaal valimisliiduna poolehoidjaid veelgi vähem kui liitu kuuluvatel erakondadel nelja peale kokku.
Koonderakond edestas pärast jaanuarikuist valitsusevahetust kõiki teisi erakondi mäekõrguselt ja tõus jätkus. Edgar Savisaare Rahva-Keskerakond ja Marju Lauristini sotsiaaldemokraadid olid sama sündmuse mõjul seevastu vabalanguses.
Olulisim muutus parteimaastikul oli see, et venelaste seas kerkis 1992. aasta algul kõige populaarsemaks poliitikuks Savisaar. Jaanuaris oli ta seda napilt ja kevadeks oli ta seda juba ülekaalukalt. Hiljuti veel nii vihatud Rahvarinde juhist tegi venelaste lemmikpoliitiku võimuhaaramise katse 1992. aasta jaanuaris, mille ta pani toime punakindralite ja internatside toel.
Mures oma maine languse pärast eestlaste seas, nõudis Savisaar rahvaga kõnelemiseks ETVlt eetriaega. Peaministrina oli ta niisuguseid jutlusi pidanud igal laupäeval riigiraadios, aga nüüd polnud tal enam voli kedagi käskida. ETV juhtkond keeldus, kuid pakkus võimalust korraldada otsesaatena kahe suurima poliitilise jõu debatt.
Üritades kõiki üle kavaldada, ei valinud Savisaar vastaseks sugugi riigi suurimat poliitilist jõudu Koonderakonda, nagu ETV soovis, vaid kutsus kerge seljavõidu lootuses duellile hoopis Isamaa. See paistis Koljati ja Taaveti heitlusena: ühel pool tõeline poliitiline gigant, mitmeaastase peaministrikogemusega Rahvarinde juht, teisel vaevu tudengieast välja kasvanud noorukid.
Ent Isamaa juhid nägid Savisaare pakkumises taeva kingitust. Kas nüüd või mitte kunagi! Kaks tundi tasuta eetriaega riigi sisuliselt ainukeses telekanalis koos rahva hiljutise iidoliga oli võimalus, mida ei tohtinud kasutamata jätta.
28. mail peetud televäitluse lõpptulemus oli Savisaarele masendav. Isamaa oli heitluseks põhjalikult valmistunud. Terve saade oli valimisstaabis mitu korda üksipulgi läbi mängitud, kõikvõimalikud küsimused ja vastused täpselt kirja pandud, iga lause lausa läikima lihvitud. Igal vähegi haritud televaatajal ei saanud jääda kahtlust, et poliitikasse on astunud värske jõud, mis ei erine konkurentidest mitte ainult hästi istuvate ülikondade, vaid ka selge sõna ja kindla maailmavaate poolest.
Loe edasi siit: https://fictionbook.ru/author/kalle_muuli/isamaa_tagatuba/read_online.html?page=4
https://fictionbook.ru/author/kalle_muuli/
// Kus on Eesti portaalid nede raamatute sisudega?
https://www.e-varamu.ee/item/2TFAHSVJ6NQJQKB4YRB6M7AT5OC6EDWX
//1992 ajal :
EKDL oli Kristlik-Demokraatliku Internatsionaali liikmena esimene ja mõnda aega ka ainus rahvusvaheliselt tunnustatud Eesti erakond. EKDLi juhid, eeskätt Illar Hallaste ja Karin Jaani, said välismaalt arvukalt küllakutseid ja võisid seetõttu pidevalt mööda ilma ringi sõita.
(Pärast 1992: muutus parteimaastikul oli see, et venelaste seas kerkis kõige populaarsemaks poliitikuks Savisaar. Hiljuti veel nii vihatud Rahvarinde juhist tegi venelaste lemmikpoliitiku võimuhaaramise katse 1992. aasta jaanuaris, mille ta pani toime punakindralite ja internatside toel.)
//Veel enne seda:
Kuna erakonnal polnud algul raha isegi postmarkide ostmiseks, mõtlesid Reisner ja Arge välja skeemi, kuidas nõukogude korra absurdini küündiv silmakirjalikkus rahaks teha. Nagu patarei pluss- ja miinuspoole ühendamisel tekib alalisvool, nii tekkis ka lääne abivalmiduse ja nõukogude bürokraatia õigel viisil ühendamisest püsiv rahavool.
Selleks tuli hankida Nõukogude välispass ja võtta sinna väljasõiduviisa. Neid väljastati Tallinna vanalinnas Laial tänaval täpselt samas paigas, kus praegu asub Vene konsulaat.
Seejärel tuli minna Võidu väljakule ehk nüüdsele Vabaduse platsile. Seal oli ainsa Tallinnas tegutseva lennufirma Aerofloti kassa, kus tusase näoga tädi trükkis lennupiletile hinna nii rublades kui ka dollarites. Seejuures oli dollarihinna aluseks NSV Liidu riigipanga ametlik kurss, mille võis leida näiteks väliseestlaste hullutamiseks mõeldud ajalehe Kodumaa tagaküljelt. Tegelik kurss rahavahetuskohtades erines sellest kümneid kordi, sest rubla odavnes pöörase kiirusega. Kolme ja poole aastaga (1988 lõpp – 1992 märts) oli rublast alles jäänud ainult kolm kopikat, aga Nõukogude riigipank määras ametlikku kurssi ikka endistviisi lakke vaadates.
Tolleaegne välispoliitiline suhtlus käis lääneriikide kulu ja kirjadega, sest vaestel eestlastel polnud raha. Küllakutsuja hüvitas sõidukulud sulas, sest pangaülekanded Eesti elanikele või erakondadele olid mõeldamatud.
Trikk seisnes selles, et küllakutsuja maksis lennupileti kinni sellele trükitud dollarihinna järgi, aga Eestis sai nende dollarite eest kursivahe tõttu kümneid kordi rohkem rublasid, kui oli kulunud pileti ostmiseks. Selleks et vaheltkasu poliitikute isiklikku taskusse ei läheks, hakati sõidupileteid ostma erakonna raha eest ja seega tuli ka pileti eest saadud hüvitis tuua erakonna kassasse. Tulu oli nii suur, et sel moel rahastati EKDLi kõiki jooksvaid kulutusi. Lisaks koguti suur hulk raha 1992. aasta valimiskampaaniaks. EKDL oli valimisliidu Isamaa erakondadest ainus, millel oli kampaania alguseks valuutavaru, kokku umbes 8000 dollarit.
Karmi parteidistsipliiniga rahuolematutele reisipoliitikutele endile jäi lohutuseks taskuraha, milleks nõukogude võim vahetas rublade vastu välisvaluutat täpselt sama absurdse kursi järgi.
Kui Arge ja Reisner olid Aerofloti rahamasinaga juba veidi valuutat teeninud, otsustasid nad EKDLile mikrobussi soetada. Arge sõber Kristjan Moora, hilisem Eesti kaitseatašee Berliinis, vedas ülikoolis õppimise kõrvalt Soomest Eestisse kasutatud autosid. Mooral oli uskumatu anne panna sõitma mistahes riistapuu, millel veel vähegi auto tunnuseid oli. Peagi leidiski ta kuskilt Helsingi lähedalt EKDLile ühe vana naljaka kaheksakohalise Fordi.
1992 järgne aeg:
Kuni 1992. aasta kevadeni püsis Isamaa kõigist ponnistustes hoolimata Koonderakonna ja Rahva-Keskerakonna varjus. Valimisstaap vihtus palehigis tööd teha, aga sellest ei paistnud vähimatki tulu tõusvat.
EKE-Ariko märtsikuises küsitluses juhtis teiste ees pikalt Koonderakond (22,2 %), järgnesid Rahva-Keskerakond (11,2), Vene Demokraatlik Liit (7,9), ERSP (7,6) ja Maaliit (6,7). Kõikide ülejäänud erakondade, sealhulgas ka sotside ja kommunistide toetus oli allpool viit protsenti.
Isamaa populaarseim koostisosa oli EKDL (4,2). Vabariiklaste, EKRE ja EKDE toetus oli ühe protsendi kandis ehk väiksem kui statistiline viga. Sellegipoolest oli Isamaal valimisliiduna poolehoidjaid veelgi vähem kui liitu kuuluvatel erakondadel nelja peale kokku.
Koonderakond edestas pärast jaanuarikuist valitsusevahetust kõiki teisi erakondi mäekõrguselt ja tõus jätkus. Edgar Savisaare Rahva-Keskerakond ja Marju Lauristini sotsiaaldemokraadid olid sama sündmuse mõjul seevastu vabalanguses.
Olulisim muutus parteimaastikul oli see, et venelaste seas kerkis 1992. aasta algul kõige populaarsemaks poliitikuks Savisaar. Jaanuaris oli ta seda napilt ja kevadeks oli ta seda juba ülekaalukalt. Hiljuti veel nii vihatud Rahvarinde juhist tegi venelaste lemmikpoliitiku võimuhaaramise katse 1992. aasta jaanuaris, mille ta pani toime punakindralite ja internatside toel.
Mures oma maine languse pärast eestlaste seas, nõudis Savisaar rahvaga kõnelemiseks ETVlt eetriaega. Peaministrina oli ta niisuguseid jutlusi pidanud igal laupäeval riigiraadios, aga nüüd polnud tal enam voli kedagi käskida. ETV juhtkond keeldus, kuid pakkus võimalust korraldada otsesaatena kahe suurima poliitilise jõu debatt.
Üritades kõiki üle kavaldada, ei valinud Savisaar vastaseks sugugi riigi suurimat poliitilist jõudu Koonderakonda, nagu ETV soovis, vaid kutsus kerge seljavõidu lootuses duellile hoopis Isamaa. See paistis Koljati ja Taaveti heitlusena: ühel pool tõeline poliitiline gigant, mitmeaastase peaministrikogemusega Rahvarinde juht, teisel vaevu tudengieast välja kasvanud noorukid.
Ent Isamaa juhid nägid Savisaare pakkumises taeva kingitust. Kas nüüd või mitte kunagi! Kaks tundi tasuta eetriaega riigi sisuliselt ainukeses telekanalis koos rahva hiljutise iidoliga oli võimalus, mida ei tohtinud kasutamata jätta.
28. mail peetud televäitluse lõpptulemus oli Savisaarele masendav. Isamaa oli heitluseks põhjalikult valmistunud. Terve saade oli valimisstaabis mitu korda üksipulgi läbi mängitud, kõikvõimalikud küsimused ja vastused täpselt kirja pandud, iga lause lausa läikima lihvitud. Igal vähegi haritud televaatajal ei saanud jääda kahtlust, et poliitikasse on astunud värske jõud, mis ei erine konkurentidest mitte ainult hästi istuvate ülikondade, vaid ka selge sõna ja kindla maailmavaate poolest.
Loe edasi siit: https://fictionbook.ru/author/kalle_muuli/isamaa_tagatuba/read_online.html?page=4
https://fictionbook.ru/author/kalle_muuli/
// Kus on Eesti portaalid nede raamatute sisudega?
https://www.e-varamu.ee/item/2TFAHSVJ6NQJQKB4YRB6M7AT5OC6EDWX
22 March 2018 22:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
3 versiooni eestikeeles:
Tõlge: Hans Rooskaja (1., 2. ja 6. salm) & Tonu Trubetsky (3., 4. ja 5. salm)
Rahwastewaheline Tööliste Hümnus.
(Vstavai, prokljat’em’’ zakleimennyi…)
Nüid ärka ilm, kes alles orjad,
Nüid tõuse ikkes ägaw maa,
Kes rikastele wara korjad –
Ja wõitlusele walmista!
Weel walitsewa wägiwalla
Me troonilt maha tõukame,
Ja ilma, kus ta meid ei talla,
Me ehitame ülesse!
See on me otsustaw lahing
Tõe ja õiguse eest!
Terwele ilmale priiust
Näeme tõusema sest.
Ei Jumal meile abi anna;
Me wõeraks jääme keisrile;
Ei priiust keegi kätte kanna,
Kui seda i s e me ei tee.
Et söödikutest lahti saada,
Kel isu ial täis ei saa,
Et oma kodu ehitada –
Seks, rahwad, üles wiitmata!
See on me otsustaw lahing jne.
Sest ainult m e i e, kes kõik lõime,
Mis ilmas tõusnud tänini,
Siin walitseda m e i e wõime,
Kuid söödikud – ei ialgi!
Ja kui nüid wiimaks torm ja äike
Läeb lahti rusujatele,
Siis püha wabaduse-päike
Meil tõuseb uhkelt taewasse.
See on me otsustaw lahing jne.
Tõlkinud W. Grünstamm.
Sõnad: Eugène Pottier (1871)
Muusika: Pierre Degeyter (1888)
Tõlge: Woldemar Grünstamm (1905)
Sõnad: Eugène Pottier
Muusika: Pierre Degeyter
Internatsionale[
1. Nüüd üles, keda needus rõhub,
Nälg, orjus ikkes hoiavad,
Keeb mässul rind ja võitlus lõhub
Me orjakütked, ahelad!
Me vägivalla hävitame,
Uus, parem ilm on meie püüd,
Uus ilm, kus võidul ülendame
Neid, keda orjus rõhub nüüd.
Refrään:
Viimse võitluse Maale
Lahing otsustav toob,
Internatsionale
Meil uueks ilma loob.
2. Ei vabadust saa taevaväega,
Ei anna tsaar, ei hiiglane,
Vaid oma võimsa, julge käega
Me vägivalla võidame.
Et ülekohut heita hauda
Ja õigust võita endile,
Sest tõmba lõõtsa, tao rauda,
Nii kaua kui raud tuline.
3. Ja petab seadus, valitsused;
Üür vaesed verest tühjaks joob;
Ja kehvistu inimõigused –
On ainult tühi lause too.
Me saame läbi hoolduseta,
Ei vabadus võrdsuseta;
Kui “Õigust pole kohuseta”,
Siis kohustust õigusteta!
4. On tõstetud apoteoosi
Need šahti, raudtee kuningad.
Ei töölist parem elu soosi,
Vaid neid kes ta tööd kurnavad.
Kuld bande šeifidesse jõuab
Ja tootja päralt puudus on.
Nüüd rahvas oma võlga nõuab,
Mis padakonna kukrus on.
5. Türannid tüssavad meid needes,
Ent rahu meile koidab ju!
Nüüd seisaku tehkem armeedes,
Ja relvad maha pandagu!
Kui mõtlevad need kannibaalid,
Et teevad sangareid meist taas,
Siis teadku nad, et meie kuulid
Sel juhul oma kindral saab.
6. Ei õigust ilma valitseda
Või olla söödikute sool,
Vaid meil, töörahval, sest et teda
Peab üleval me töö ja hool.
Kui lõhub tasumise äike
Kõik ahned koerad laiali,
Ei sellepärast kustu Päike,
Vaid paistab nii kui ennegi.
Internatsionaal
Sa tõuse, kurnatud ja neetud,
Kes orjand, nälgind puuduses.
Me üritame, halwakspeetud,
Nüüd wõitu suures wõitluses.
Häwitame pehkinud ja wana,
Et alustada paremat,
Uus Maailm tõuseb hiilgawana,
Kõik tulewikuks töötawad.
Refrään:
Wiimast lahingut tulist,
Wiimset wõitlust algame,
Ja Internatsionaalist
Uut jõudu wõidame.
Meid keegi ei saa awitada, –
Ei jumal, sangar ega tsaar.
Meid suudab ainult wabastada
Me töötaw, tugew kätepaar.
Ike murduma peab igawesti,
Seks kisu lõõtsa tööline.
Tao rauda, tao seda hästi,
Niikaua, kui raud tuline.
Refrään.
Ei õigust töölist walitseda
Wõi olla kurnajate tõul.
End ise wõime talitseda
Ning hüwed luua omal jõul.
Wälgub raskest pilwest alla äike
Ja rõhujaid lööb wiimseni,
Kuid siiski hiilgama jääb Päike
Ja paistab meile alati!
Refrään.
Sõnad: Eugène Pottier
Tõlge: ?
Muusika: Pierre Degeyter
Tõlge: Hans Rooskaja (1., 2. ja 6. salm) & Tonu Trubetsky (3., 4. ja 5. salm)
Rahwastewaheline Tööliste Hümnus.
(Vstavai, prokljat’em’’ zakleimennyi…)
Nüid ärka ilm, kes alles orjad,
Nüid tõuse ikkes ägaw maa,
Kes rikastele wara korjad –
Ja wõitlusele walmista!
Weel walitsewa wägiwalla
Me troonilt maha tõukame,
Ja ilma, kus ta meid ei talla,
Me ehitame ülesse!
See on me otsustaw lahing
Tõe ja õiguse eest!
Terwele ilmale priiust
Näeme tõusema sest.
Ei Jumal meile abi anna;
Me wõeraks jääme keisrile;
Ei priiust keegi kätte kanna,
Kui seda i s e me ei tee.
Et söödikutest lahti saada,
Kel isu ial täis ei saa,
Et oma kodu ehitada –
Seks, rahwad, üles wiitmata!
See on me otsustaw lahing jne.
Sest ainult m e i e, kes kõik lõime,
Mis ilmas tõusnud tänini,
Siin walitseda m e i e wõime,
Kuid söödikud – ei ialgi!
Ja kui nüid wiimaks torm ja äike
Läeb lahti rusujatele,
Siis püha wabaduse-päike
Meil tõuseb uhkelt taewasse.
See on me otsustaw lahing jne.
Tõlkinud W. Grünstamm.
Sõnad: Eugène Pottier (1871)
Muusika: Pierre Degeyter (1888)
Tõlge: Woldemar Grünstamm (1905)
Sõnad: Eugène Pottier
Muusika: Pierre Degeyter
Internatsionale[
1. Nüüd üles, keda needus rõhub,
Nälg, orjus ikkes hoiavad,
Keeb mässul rind ja võitlus lõhub
Me orjakütked, ahelad!
Me vägivalla hävitame,
Uus, parem ilm on meie püüd,
Uus ilm, kus võidul ülendame
Neid, keda orjus rõhub nüüd.
Refrään:
Viimse võitluse Maale
Lahing otsustav toob,
Internatsionale
Meil uueks ilma loob.
2. Ei vabadust saa taevaväega,
Ei anna tsaar, ei hiiglane,
Vaid oma võimsa, julge käega
Me vägivalla võidame.
Et ülekohut heita hauda
Ja õigust võita endile,
Sest tõmba lõõtsa, tao rauda,
Nii kaua kui raud tuline.
3. Ja petab seadus, valitsused;
Üür vaesed verest tühjaks joob;
Ja kehvistu inimõigused –
On ainult tühi lause too.
Me saame läbi hoolduseta,
Ei vabadus võrdsuseta;
Kui “Õigust pole kohuseta”,
Siis kohustust õigusteta!
4. On tõstetud apoteoosi
Need šahti, raudtee kuningad.
Ei töölist parem elu soosi,
Vaid neid kes ta tööd kurnavad.
Kuld bande šeifidesse jõuab
Ja tootja päralt puudus on.
Nüüd rahvas oma võlga nõuab,
Mis padakonna kukrus on.
5. Türannid tüssavad meid needes,
Ent rahu meile koidab ju!
Nüüd seisaku tehkem armeedes,
Ja relvad maha pandagu!
Kui mõtlevad need kannibaalid,
Et teevad sangareid meist taas,
Siis teadku nad, et meie kuulid
Sel juhul oma kindral saab.
6. Ei õigust ilma valitseda
Või olla söödikute sool,
Vaid meil, töörahval, sest et teda
Peab üleval me töö ja hool.
Kui lõhub tasumise äike
Kõik ahned koerad laiali,
Ei sellepärast kustu Päike,
Vaid paistab nii kui ennegi.
Internatsionaal
Sa tõuse, kurnatud ja neetud,
Kes orjand, nälgind puuduses.
Me üritame, halwakspeetud,
Nüüd wõitu suures wõitluses.
Häwitame pehkinud ja wana,
Et alustada paremat,
Uus Maailm tõuseb hiilgawana,
Kõik tulewikuks töötawad.
Refrään:
Wiimast lahingut tulist,
Wiimset wõitlust algame,
Ja Internatsionaalist
Uut jõudu wõidame.
Meid keegi ei saa awitada, –
Ei jumal, sangar ega tsaar.
Meid suudab ainult wabastada
Me töötaw, tugew kätepaar.
Ike murduma peab igawesti,
Seks kisu lõõtsa tööline.
Tao rauda, tao seda hästi,
Niikaua, kui raud tuline.
Refrään.
Ei õigust töölist walitseda
Wõi olla kurnajate tõul.
End ise wõime talitseda
Ning hüwed luua omal jõul.
Wälgub raskest pilwest alla äike
Ja rõhujaid lööb wiimseni,
Kuid siiski hiilgama jääb Päike
Ja paistab meile alati!
Refrään.
Sõnad: Eugène Pottier
Tõlge: ?
Muusika: Pierre Degeyter
22 March 2018 22:00
Margus Meigo replied to Ivar Paenurm's comment.
ja neegried veelrohkem imestama ajavad... nu need seadused skandinaavlaste omad..
(alles hiljuti vist mõni aasta tagasi kui netis lärmi tegema hakkasime, tehti seadusemuudatus, et enam kodus loomavägistamis videosi ei tohi toidukauplustes avalikult müüa ja et pole sobilik see tegevus enam, enne oli see inimõiguste osa Skandinaavaia Väärtuste järgi... .. poolas vist oli 10 aastat türmi alustuseks selle eest)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2VEO14Hgss
(alles hiljuti vist mõni aasta tagasi kui netis lärmi tegema hakkasime, tehti seadusemuudatus, et enam kodus loomavägistamis videosi ei tohi toidukauplustes avalikult müüa ja et pole sobilik see tegevus enam, enne oli see inimõiguste osa Skandinaavaia Väärtuste järgi... .. poolas vist oli 10 aastat türmi alustuseks selle eest)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2VEO14Hgss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2VEO14Hgss
22 March 2018 16:28
Margus Meigo replied to Ivar Paenurm's comment.
perselutsimise osas, isegi homone (vist) neeger ei saa aru mida siin valgetel viga on selles osas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9JwmB7tdaw&t=201s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9JwmB7tdaw&t=201s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9JwmB7tdaw&t=201s
22 March 2018 16:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
bänniti ka :D
22 March 2018 16:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
veelkord, mitte naistevastane homo ei visatud välja, nagu teame, nende vaim ju on naistevastane... vaid.. matriarhaatliku mind.. hmm
22 March 2018 16:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mind visati Eesti Virgina Wolfi grupist välja, matriarhaadina, ühe täis laliseva homolise poolt, (ei saa aru mida homod teevad FEMINSTIDE grupis adminnidena esiteks..)
siis kui postitasin AUSA, reaalse Wirgina Wolfi ENDA artikli, kus ta ütles, et armastab oma meest ja soovib, et asjad korras oleks.. .
ning austab meest.
See info vist ei sobinud ideoloogilise propakandaga kokku
siis kui postitasin AUSA, reaalse Wirgina Wolfi ENDA artikli, kus ta ütles, et armastab oma meest ja soovib, et asjad korras oleks.. .
ning austab meest.
See info vist ei sobinud ideoloogilise propakandaga kokku
22 March 2018 16:24
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Burak's post.
Group: Soldiers Of Odin Estonia
Seeeest väga suur võimalus saada vene kagebiitide kauslikuks idioodiks kes purjuspeaga jookseb kuhu pead keeratud on.
Kuid yea, tond ise hea.
Aumehed peaksid suutma ikka kainepeaga ebakaineid päid korda lüüa22 March 2018 16:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Isamaa 2.0 - Isamaa sõprade klubi
Tumedat huumorit ka:
(EAS'i 2000 töölise osas mida olevatplaanitud juurde tuua)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=898138113694247&set=p.898138113694247&type=3&theater22 March 2018 16:11
Margus Meigo replied to Taivo Sepp's comment.
Üks parimaid mustasi huumoreid mida näinud jupp aega
22 March 2018 16:10
Margus Meigo commented on Edmond Penu's post.
Pagulastest Rääkides meil siin muud mured ka, kopeeerin postituse mis mälus:
#petuprofiil #fakeprofile
Näedsa, 1993 aastal Sündinud polise ameerika kindrali nägu ja siis neegriks muutunud Tartlasest PÄrnakas:
https://www.facebook.com/aminata.soumare.9484/
Hästi populaarne igasuguste sõjaväelaste erakaleriidest võetud piltidega kontosi neil punastel neegritel ning siin naised rääkinud,et ohtrasti lisavad kontaktidesse, peale info kogumise mis skeemid need on ?
Nad jutujärgi avalikustavad ka ennast negrona kuid sellise toonina, et "ega sa rassistlik ole kes neegri vastu on" .. et siis edasi lipitseda..
Rsk kas saaks kuidagi organiseerida, kellegil raha on lendaks kohale ja annaks ketuka mõnele, paneks YT'bi ülesse teistele samasugustele hoiatuseks, ehk ameeriklased maksavad veel lennuraha kinni pärastpoole.
Mis meil enda plaan on ? Massiga peale tulles nad ikka leiavad rohkem ja rohkem neid üksikuid kes igavusest ja nalja mõttes lõksu langevad.
Lisas mu kontakti, proovin ise uurida mis vaev see on...
Kuid arvestades, et eri Eesti linnad on märgitud.. siis peab programm väga sihikindel olema, millegi pärast meelega nähtavaid päris infot panevad profiiilidesse mis kindlalt teada annavad, et võlts profiiliga.. mingi psüholoogiline mõte sellel peab olema.
vahepeal suur laine oli, kus nad Eesti luure ja riigi töötajate kontaktidesse imbusid, ja millegi pärast mitmed Eesti olulised tegelased ei teinud märkama ka kui teada antud, kes neil kontaktides.
#petuprofiil #fakeprofile
Näedsa, 1993 aastal Sündinud polise ameerika kindrali nägu ja siis neegriks muutunud Tartlasest PÄrnakas:
https://www.facebook.com/aminata.soumare.9484/
Hästi populaarne igasuguste sõjaväelaste erakaleriidest võetud piltidega kontosi neil punastel neegritel ning siin naised rääkinud,et ohtrasti lisavad kontaktidesse, peale info kogumise mis skeemid need on ?
Nad jutujärgi avalikustavad ka ennast negrona kuid sellise toonina, et "ega sa rassistlik ole kes neegri vastu on" .. et siis edasi lipitseda..
Rsk kas saaks kuidagi organiseerida, kellegil raha on lendaks kohale ja annaks ketuka mõnele, paneks YT'bi ülesse teistele samasugustele hoiatuseks, ehk ameeriklased maksavad veel lennuraha kinni pärastpoole.
Mis meil enda plaan on ? Massiga peale tulles nad ikka leiavad rohkem ja rohkem neid üksikuid kes igavusest ja nalja mõttes lõksu langevad.
Lisas mu kontakti, proovin ise uurida mis vaev see on...
Kuid arvestades, et eri Eesti linnad on märgitud.. siis peab programm väga sihikindel olema, millegi pärast meelega nähtavaid päris infot panevad profiiilidesse mis kindlalt teada annavad, et võlts profiiliga.. mingi psüholoogiline mõte sellel peab olema.
vahepeal suur laine oli, kus nad Eesti luure ja riigi töötajate kontaktidesse imbusid, ja millegi pärast mitmed Eesti olulised tegelased ei teinud märkama ka kui teada antud, kes neil kontaktides.
22 March 2018 16:08
Margus Meigo replied to Toivo Mäeste's comment.
Nu jah, kui palju neid valikuid tal olnud oleks ,
kui huvi Eestit parandada ja ise teda usaldasite, siis peaks ju hea inimesega tegu olema
kui huvi Eestit parandada ja ise teda usaldasite, siis peaks ju hea inimesega tegu olema
22 March 2018 16:04
Margus Meigo commented on Edmond Penu's post.
Keskerakond oleks parem olnud ?
22 March 2018 16:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ossinovskile kiri vaja saata, et pole vaja riigi raha eest jooma punkreid toota kui reaalseid vaeseid olemas, kes katust vajavad ja midagi asjalikku ka teha sooviksid riigi kasuks samal ajal
22 March 2018 15:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Toomas Sirge selgita lähemalt
22 March 2018 15:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mälestusselts
„Artur Sirk“
Sihtasutuse loomise mõte pandi idanema juba pea aasta tagasi, kui ajaloost huvituv ning antud temaatikat uuriv Jaak Madison võttis kontakti mitmeid raamatuid Vabadussõjalastest ja Artur Sirgust kirjutanud pr Evy Laamann-Kalbusega. Evy Laamann-Kalbus on Vabadussõja veterani Paul Laamanni tütar, kes oli perekonnasõber Artur Sirgu perekonnaga. Proua elab väliseestlasena Washingtoni lähistel ning süvitsi tegelenud Artur Sirgu elulooga ning andis sellega indu ka noorematele põlvkondadele, seega ka minule, jätkata selle riigimehe ja suure tähega Eestlase mälestuse hoidmist ning väärtustamist. Tänasel päeval on häbiväärselt vähe pühendatud koolide ajalootundides Vabadussõjalastele, kes üritasid päästa Eestit 1930ndatel poliitilisest korruptsioonist ning kartellistumisest, millega peame võitlema ka tänasel päeval. Kahjuks lõppes nende siiras soov ja tahe arendada rahvusriiklust riiklike repressioonide ning vangistamistega. Mitte ainult - selle liikumise peamisele juhile ning rahva ühendajale tõenäoliselt mõrvaga - 31. juulil 1937. aastal kukkus Artur Sirk Luksemburgis Echternachi linna väikeses hotellis aknast alla ning suri haiglas 2. augustil. Kõik juhtumi asjaolud, nagu Sirgu kirjutatud raamatu käsikirja kadumine, lahkamise mitte-teostamine, kolme Poliitilise Politsei agendi sama-aegne lähetuses viibimine, viitavad selgelt poliitilisele tellimustööle.
Need on asjaolud, mida ei saa ega tohi unustada, sest on osaks meie ajaloost ja riiklikust arengust. Me peame väärtustama nende meeste, eelkõige nende juhi, panust oma riigi arendamisse. Sihtasutus “Artur Sirk” sai oma praegu kuju 2016. aasta juulikuu lõpus, kui Jaak Madison asutas koos Triin Kuusega selle mälestuseltsi, mille nõukogusse kuuluvad ajaloolane Jaak Valge, korporatsioon Sakala vilistlane Art Johanson ning ajaloo uurija Daneil Mereäär. Mälestusseltsi asutajad on üritanud koondada sihtasutuse tööse erinevate valdkondade inimesi ning sellest tulenevalt on ka nõukogu eripalgeline - ajaloolane hr Valge, korp! Sakala vil! Johanson, kuna Artur Sirk oli sakalanus ning kodanikuaktivist hr Mereääre, kes on uurinud ja huvitunud Eesti ajaloost ning Vabadussõjalaste suur austaja. Ühise töö tulemusel on meie eesmärk teadvustada ühiskonnas Artur Sirgu osatähtsut Eesti ajaloos läbi avalike ürituste, seminaride, trükiste ning esimese suurema tööna ausamab püstitamise! Aastakümneid on arutletud ausamba püstitamisest Sirgule, kuid siiani on see tegemata. Mälestusselts „Artur Sirk“ on võtnud selle oma esmaseks ülesandeks ning selle töö tulemusel on loodetav ausamba avamine 2. augustil 2017. aastal ehk Artur Sirgu 80. surma-aastapäeval.
„Artur Sirk“
Sihtasutuse loomise mõte pandi idanema juba pea aasta tagasi, kui ajaloost huvituv ning antud temaatikat uuriv Jaak Madison võttis kontakti mitmeid raamatuid Vabadussõjalastest ja Artur Sirgust kirjutanud pr Evy Laamann-Kalbusega. Evy Laamann-Kalbus on Vabadussõja veterani Paul Laamanni tütar, kes oli perekonnasõber Artur Sirgu perekonnaga. Proua elab väliseestlasena Washingtoni lähistel ning süvitsi tegelenud Artur Sirgu elulooga ning andis sellega indu ka noorematele põlvkondadele, seega ka minule, jätkata selle riigimehe ja suure tähega Eestlase mälestuse hoidmist ning väärtustamist. Tänasel päeval on häbiväärselt vähe pühendatud koolide ajalootundides Vabadussõjalastele, kes üritasid päästa Eestit 1930ndatel poliitilisest korruptsioonist ning kartellistumisest, millega peame võitlema ka tänasel päeval. Kahjuks lõppes nende siiras soov ja tahe arendada rahvusriiklust riiklike repressioonide ning vangistamistega. Mitte ainult - selle liikumise peamisele juhile ning rahva ühendajale tõenäoliselt mõrvaga - 31. juulil 1937. aastal kukkus Artur Sirk Luksemburgis Echternachi linna väikeses hotellis aknast alla ning suri haiglas 2. augustil. Kõik juhtumi asjaolud, nagu Sirgu kirjutatud raamatu käsikirja kadumine, lahkamise mitte-teostamine, kolme Poliitilise Politsei agendi sama-aegne lähetuses viibimine, viitavad selgelt poliitilisele tellimustööle.
Need on asjaolud, mida ei saa ega tohi unustada, sest on osaks meie ajaloost ja riiklikust arengust. Me peame väärtustama nende meeste, eelkõige nende juhi, panust oma riigi arendamisse. Sihtasutus “Artur Sirk” sai oma praegu kuju 2016. aasta juulikuu lõpus, kui Jaak Madison asutas koos Triin Kuusega selle mälestuseltsi, mille nõukogusse kuuluvad ajaloolane Jaak Valge, korporatsioon Sakala vilistlane Art Johanson ning ajaloo uurija Daneil Mereäär. Mälestusseltsi asutajad on üritanud koondada sihtasutuse tööse erinevate valdkondade inimesi ning sellest tulenevalt on ka nõukogu eripalgeline - ajaloolane hr Valge, korp! Sakala vil! Johanson, kuna Artur Sirk oli sakalanus ning kodanikuaktivist hr Mereääre, kes on uurinud ja huvitunud Eesti ajaloost ning Vabadussõjalaste suur austaja. Ühise töö tulemusel on meie eesmärk teadvustada ühiskonnas Artur Sirgu osatähtsut Eesti ajaloos läbi avalike ürituste, seminaride, trükiste ning esimese suurema tööna ausamab püstitamise! Aastakümneid on arutletud ausamba püstitamisest Sirgule, kuid siiani on see tegemata. Mälestusselts „Artur Sirk“ on võtnud selle oma esmaseks ülesandeks ning selle töö tulemusel on loodetav ausamba avamine 2. augustil 2017. aastal ehk Artur Sirgu 80. surma-aastapäeval.
22 March 2018 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Väga veider, et sellest mehest pole mitte tuhkagi Wikipedias:
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Maramaa
Peab olukorra parandama... ikka üks väga väga legendaarne vend oli kes ta ajalugu ja võimekust
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Maramaa
Peab olukorra parandama... ikka üks väga väga legendaarne vend oli kes ta ajalugu ja võimekust
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Maramaa
22 March 2018 15:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"1930. aastate alguses toimus põhiseaduse muutmise üle kolm rahvahääletust. Esimesed kaks kuigi edukad ei olnud. 19. juulil 1932 astus ametisse peamiselt majanduslike eesmärkidega Karl Einbundi valitsus. Esimene rahvahääletus toimus 1932. aasta augustis, ning suhteliselt võrdväärselt leidis 333 947 poolt- ja 345 215 vastuhäält. Valitsus vahetus 1. novembril 1932 ja jälle 18. mail 1933, kui ametisse astus Jaan Tõnissoni neljas valitsus. 1933. aastal korraldati teine rahvahääletus põhiseaduse muutmise üle, ning sellele oli 161 338 poolt- ja 331 000 vastuhäält. 14. – 16. oktoobril 1933 toimus uus hääletus, seekord Artur Sirgu ja Leopold Tõnsoni esitatud põhiseaduse üle. Eelnõu leidis 416 878 poolt- ja 156 849 vastuhäält, ning uus põhiseadus muutus kehtivaks 24. jaanuaril 1934.
Kuigi põhiseadus leidis juristide kriitikat üksikasjade osas, oli põhiseaduse jõustumine kindel võit Vabadussõjalaste liidule. Uue põhiseaduse kohaselt oli Riigikogu liikmete arvuks 50 ja riigivanem tuli valida otse rahva poolt. Head eeldused riigivanemaks saada olid rahva seas populaarsel Andres Larkal, ning kui parlamendivalimised oleksid olnud vabadussõjalastele edukad, siis oleks peaministriks saanud tõenäoliselt Artur Sirk.
Päts-Laidoneri võimuhaaramine
Nagu ikka, kipuvad tähtsad ajaloo murdepunktid saabuma ette hoiatamata. Ilmselgelt ei olnud valitsev klikk rahul sellega, et olemasolevad positsioonid läheksid vabadel valimistel kaduma. 1933. aasta Põhiseaduse järgi oli Sõjavägede Ülemjuhataja nimetamine võimalik ainult sõja- ja mobilisatsiooni puhul, kuid just siis, ilma igasuguse sõjaolukorrata kehtestati kaitseseisukord, ning Johan Laidoner nimetati kaitsevägede ülemjuhatajaks. Samal õhtul vangistati Sirk EVL peakorteris koos teiste vabadussõjalastega ilma ühegi süüdistusteta.
On teada, et mitu kuud pärast vangistamist viidi Sirk Narva maanteel asuvasse haiglasse. 11. novembri õhtupoolikul Sirk vanglast põgenes, ning siirdus läbi Tartu Vindavisse Lätis. Edasi jõuab 4. detsembril 1934 koos vangivaht Küttimiga Helsinkisse, kus ta sai Soome võimude poolt asüüli. Kuigi Sirku Soomelt välja ei nõutud, sest Soome oli riigipöörde osas hukkamõistev, on teada, et Sirgu vastu toimus aktiivne jälitustegevus. Samal ajal jätkus kohtuprotsess Eestisse jäänud Vabadussõjalaste vastu, ning neid süüdistati seadusparagrahvi alusel, mis kehtestati alles pool aastat pärast nende vahistamist; süüdistajaks Tshistjakov, eestistatud nimega Helk, kes oli K. Pätsi naisevend.
1935. aasta 8. detsember. Sellel õhtul asus Sirk teele Soomest Rootsi poole, ning jätkas läbi Inglismaa Hollandisse. Eesti esitas Hollandi valitsusele Sirgu vastu kolm vahistamise ja väljaandmise nõuet koos tema täpse aadressiga Hollandis. Sirk vahistati, viibis lühikest aega Rotterdami vanglas, kuid poliitilise iseloomu tõttu nõudeid ei rahuldatud. Pärast vabanemist tungiti temale Hollandis kaks korda järjest kallale.
Surm
1937. kevadeks oli Sirgul valminud käsikiri Eesti poliitilise olukorra kohta ja võimuhaaramise kohta. 18. mail 1937 saabus Sirk Luksemburgi ja juuni lõpus asus ta kõrvalisse Echternachi linna. Hotelli omaniku hr. Wengleri tütre sõnul käis 30. juulil Sirk linnas jalutamas ja märkas eestlasi. Järgmine päev käis ta jälle jalutamas ja oli ehmatanud ja märg. Samal õhtupoolikul leiti ta meelemärkuseta betoneeritud hoovilt, seinast 3 meetri kaugusel, kontide otsad jalgadest väljas. Teada on, et Sirk suri meelemärkusele tulemata 2. augusti varahommikul ja maeti Echternachti kalmistul. 1937. aastal toimus ümbermatmine Hietaniemi kalmuaeda, ning seda korraldasid Akadeemiline Karjala Selts, : „Sinumusta“ toimetus, Soome Naisüliõpilaste Selts ja teised organisatsioonid. Need, kes Sirgu matustelt naasid, vahistati sadamas."
Kuigi põhiseadus leidis juristide kriitikat üksikasjade osas, oli põhiseaduse jõustumine kindel võit Vabadussõjalaste liidule. Uue põhiseaduse kohaselt oli Riigikogu liikmete arvuks 50 ja riigivanem tuli valida otse rahva poolt. Head eeldused riigivanemaks saada olid rahva seas populaarsel Andres Larkal, ning kui parlamendivalimised oleksid olnud vabadussõjalastele edukad, siis oleks peaministriks saanud tõenäoliselt Artur Sirk.
Päts-Laidoneri võimuhaaramine
Nagu ikka, kipuvad tähtsad ajaloo murdepunktid saabuma ette hoiatamata. Ilmselgelt ei olnud valitsev klikk rahul sellega, et olemasolevad positsioonid läheksid vabadel valimistel kaduma. 1933. aasta Põhiseaduse järgi oli Sõjavägede Ülemjuhataja nimetamine võimalik ainult sõja- ja mobilisatsiooni puhul, kuid just siis, ilma igasuguse sõjaolukorrata kehtestati kaitseseisukord, ning Johan Laidoner nimetati kaitsevägede ülemjuhatajaks. Samal õhtul vangistati Sirk EVL peakorteris koos teiste vabadussõjalastega ilma ühegi süüdistusteta.
On teada, et mitu kuud pärast vangistamist viidi Sirk Narva maanteel asuvasse haiglasse. 11. novembri õhtupoolikul Sirk vanglast põgenes, ning siirdus läbi Tartu Vindavisse Lätis. Edasi jõuab 4. detsembril 1934 koos vangivaht Küttimiga Helsinkisse, kus ta sai Soome võimude poolt asüüli. Kuigi Sirku Soomelt välja ei nõutud, sest Soome oli riigipöörde osas hukkamõistev, on teada, et Sirgu vastu toimus aktiivne jälitustegevus. Samal ajal jätkus kohtuprotsess Eestisse jäänud Vabadussõjalaste vastu, ning neid süüdistati seadusparagrahvi alusel, mis kehtestati alles pool aastat pärast nende vahistamist; süüdistajaks Tshistjakov, eestistatud nimega Helk, kes oli K. Pätsi naisevend.
1935. aasta 8. detsember. Sellel õhtul asus Sirk teele Soomest Rootsi poole, ning jätkas läbi Inglismaa Hollandisse. Eesti esitas Hollandi valitsusele Sirgu vastu kolm vahistamise ja väljaandmise nõuet koos tema täpse aadressiga Hollandis. Sirk vahistati, viibis lühikest aega Rotterdami vanglas, kuid poliitilise iseloomu tõttu nõudeid ei rahuldatud. Pärast vabanemist tungiti temale Hollandis kaks korda järjest kallale.
Surm
1937. kevadeks oli Sirgul valminud käsikiri Eesti poliitilise olukorra kohta ja võimuhaaramise kohta. 18. mail 1937 saabus Sirk Luksemburgi ja juuni lõpus asus ta kõrvalisse Echternachi linna. Hotelli omaniku hr. Wengleri tütre sõnul käis 30. juulil Sirk linnas jalutamas ja märkas eestlasi. Järgmine päev käis ta jälle jalutamas ja oli ehmatanud ja märg. Samal õhtupoolikul leiti ta meelemärkuseta betoneeritud hoovilt, seinast 3 meetri kaugusel, kontide otsad jalgadest väljas. Teada on, et Sirk suri meelemärkusele tulemata 2. augusti varahommikul ja maeti Echternachti kalmistul. 1937. aastal toimus ümbermatmine Hietaniemi kalmuaeda, ning seda korraldasid Akadeemiline Karjala Selts, : „Sinumusta“ toimetus, Soome Naisüliõpilaste Selts ja teised organisatsioonid. Need, kes Sirgu matustelt naasid, vahistati sadamas."
22 March 2018 15:39
Margus Meigo commented on He Le's post.
Mina küll kujutaks, kuigi mu lpole pikkaaega niipalju raha veel olnud, kuid ma päris hea kujutlusvõimega aegajalt
22 March 2018 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on He Le's post.
Nii on
22 March 2018 02:51
Margus Meigo replied to Andreas Kõrgend's comment.
Mulle usk ja eliitsus alati ideaalsuses meeldinud ja vähene õigele teele sundimine tõsine ühiskonna probleem olnud, pigem lubatakse sundida valele teele ja ollakse usu-läiguse osas liialt ükskõiksed, mis probleemi alustaladest
22 March 2018 01:13
Margus Meigo commented on Adrian Verde De Almeida's photo.
Told You beard looks great!
22 March 2018 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on Alexander Black's post.
Group: Cryptocurrency Collectors Club
Good friend in heart always!22 March 2018 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to He Le's comment.
nu siis oma mees
22 March 2018 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on He Le's photo.
Eip teadnutki , et need kujud nii lõhikesed on
22 March 2018 00:33
Margus Meigo commented on He Le's photo.
VIP ?
22 March 2018 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on He Le's photo.
Olen ilus, loomulikult!
22 March 2018 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on He Le's photo.
Mul tavel nad ka külastanud. .: )
22 March 2018 00:31
Margus Meigo commented on He Le's photo.
Imeline
22 March 2018 00:30
Margus Meigo commented on He Le's photo.
Mix mul seda sheerida eip lase..
22 March 2018 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on He Le's photo.
Depressing... why so
22 March 2018 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on He Le's photo.
Wauh!
22 March 2018 00:25
Margus Meigo commented on He Le's photo.
Võimas Suur Vend!
22 March 2018 00:25
Margus Meigo commented on He Le's photo.
Kenad Maaaajad!
22 March 2018 00:24
Margus Meigo commented on He Le's photo.
Vaat kus on riidaladunud!
22 March 2018 00:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
at least someone made effort.. to make service to import storify
https://wakelet.com/@Waffa
https://wakelet.com/@Waffa
https://wakelet.com/@Waffa
21 March 2018 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
21 March 2018 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on Zero Hedge's post.
Elementary
21 March 2018 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ka raudteepeale saaab kiva järjepidevalt veeretada juba enne seda kui rongid sõitma hakkavad... ju need sponsorid koomale tõmbaksid kui arusaaksid, et vastuolu on REAALNE mitte moraalne ja illusioone, kus kelllajaljärgi sildid käes käputäis käib midagi üritamas ja ülejäänu mugavalt netis paar digi alllkirja annavad ja siis laike uneledes vaatama jäävad,
21 March 2018 20:35
Margus Meigo replied to Andreas Kõrgend's comment.
kuigi karistmaise asemel võiksid arenenud liigid nagu keskonda reguleerida ja arendad,a harida selliselt, et poleks vaja peksta
21 March 2018 20:30
Margus Meigo replied to Andreas Kõrgend's comment.
Mingisosas nad ikka Läänemaailmast jälle pikalt ees ja provivad nomraalsuse norme hoida:
"Flogging is used in Qatar as a punishment for alcohol consumption or illicit sexual relations.[7] Article 88 of Qatar's criminal code declares the punishment for adultery is 100 lashes.[8] Adultery is punishable by death when a Muslim woman and a non-Muslim man are involved.[8] In 2006, a Filipino woman was sentenced to 100 lashes for adultery.[8] In 2010, at least 18 people (mostly foreign nationals) were sentenced to flogging of between 40 and 100 lashes for offences related to “illicit sexual relations” or alcohol consumption"
"Flogging is used in Qatar as a punishment for alcohol consumption or illicit sexual relations.[7] Article 88 of Qatar's criminal code declares the punishment for adultery is 100 lashes.[8] Adultery is punishable by death when a Muslim woman and a non-Muslim man are involved.[8] In 2006, a Filipino woman was sentenced to 100 lashes for adultery.[8] In 2010, at least 18 people (mostly foreign nationals) were sentenced to flogging of between 40 and 100 lashes for offences related to “illicit sexual relations” or alcohol consumption"
21 March 2018 20:29
Margus Meigo replied to Andreas Kõrgend's comment.
ega inimese definitsioon vist seduslikult, ... ka see veider, et need kes inimese, jumala ja looduse vastu töötavad on ka samamoodi "Inimestena" kirjas.. ja siis ka nendel samasorti õigused..
see ais mida veeel tajuma peab kui vaid oma uurimisvõrgud toimima saaks mida juba 1/3 elust visualizeerunud
see ais mida veeel tajuma peab kui vaid oma uurimisvõrgud toimima saaks mida juba 1/3 elust visualizeerunud
21 March 2018 20:27
Margus Meigo replied to Andreas Kõrgend's comment.
Andreas Kõrgend INimõiguseks pidi internet ka Eestis olema, kuid millegipärast seda saab ainult siis kui raha on, päris hästi sellest sõnast inimõigus eip saa aru veel,
21 March 2018 20:26
Margus Meigo replied to Andreas Kõrgend's comment.
ehk nad oma abi muudmoodi pakkunud
21 March 2018 20:22
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Pooltõsi
Oleneb räpparitest ja õpetajatest
Joosep Vau
Oleneb räpparitest ja õpetajatest
Joosep Vau
21 March 2018 20:21
Margus Meigo commented on Raili Kuningas's photo.
Väga kena ja ontlik!
21 March 2018 20:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ya teie ka :p
21 March 2018 19:32
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
Nu see üks asiutustest kes ehk teaks, kas tasub, jurde tuua
21 March 2018 19:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Allar Kaljundi aga kuidas lüürika ise tundus, aus?
--
" psychic totalitarian
Biotelemetric mind control experimentation is various
Narcotics made to inflict pain and madness
Assassins with multiple personalities.."
--
" psychic totalitarian
Biotelemetric mind control experimentation is various
Narcotics made to inflict pain and madness
Assassins with multiple personalities.."
21 March 2018 19:24
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Uustal's photo.
imeline praktiline kunstnik!
21 March 2018 04:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
God is DNA,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JgM7_0Bius
[Intro: K-Rino]
You don't see it but it's right there in front of you (x3)
[Verse 1: K-Rino]
They wanna depopulate the civilians
Nowadays they say it's easier to kill than to try to control millions
National debt sits in the trillions
And there's a plot to steal the birthright of the children of Israel, the real ones
Plans to hide every revolutionary's relevance
Triggered by the FBI's counter intelligence
Leaders killed and jailed unjustly by its director
The aggressor J. Edgar Hoover, the racist cross dresser
His orchestration of hatred laced investigations
The infiltration of civil rights organizations
Assassination to character, defamations through media
Even today used in deceiving and misleading ya
Believe in the war motivated lies they feeding ya
Corporate American thieves get greedier and greedier
Neo-cons hate the poor, they spent years denouncing 'em
The poor built this country but nobody's looking out for them
[Hook: K-Rino]
You don't see it but it's right there in front of you
(Left side, right side, over you and under you)
You don't see it but it's right there in front of you
(Right side, left side, over you and under you)
You don't see it but it's right there in front of you
(Left side, right side, over you and under you)
You don't see it but it's right there in front of you
(Right side, left side, over behind and under you)
[Verse 2: K-Rino]
Propaganda and TV nonsense keep people unconscious
Pompous governments keep sponsoring bomb hits
Honesty is far gone, the land is a war zone
Your family and your children consuming animal hormones
Nothing is organic, nearly everything real is gone
Fast food places selling great meat with silicone
Everyday we pay for it, now the whole nation's sick
Addictive and money driven drugs are what the patients get
Any natural remedy the FDA sanctions it
'Cause they don't want the cure, they want the money that they make from it
The USA's a corporation, wealth is the emphasis
Prison industrial complexes, slave businesses
Stock market interested, the reason that they build them
In advance is cause they know eventually they're gonna fill 'em
Orchestrated the system to incarcerate your children
And project future inmates based on that to make millions
[Hook]
[Verse 3: K-Rino]
The truth was never taught by the enemy and it won't be
The real power is always the entity you don't see
Subconsciously planted in your head is where he wants to be
Thousands of media powers owned by three companies
85 percent of the whole planet in darkness
Spend millions on sports teams while the homeless are starving
Nobody wants to protest, rally or picket
But there's a line around the corner for them concert tickets
Soldiers dying everyday, you keep sending them out
I wanna send 5000 killers to Zimmerman's house
The Rockefeller's and the Bush family in the same box G
Henry Ford all of them supported the Nazis
Members of the Tea Party still telling black jokes
You wearing the clothes but the designer hates black folks
Reporters wanna get dirt, sound bites and excerpts
CNN must mean Corrupt News Network
Lost every dime you had riding with the wrong stock
Made in USA is dead, China got it on lock
Lost your 401k and every paper you was holding
Cause you invested in something somebody else was controlling
They make it go up and down, rise high or fall deep
The markets manipulated by people on Wall Street
Talk about the Middle East like America's errorless
University campus and movie theater terrorists
True devilish temperament, the government is infamous
Ask 'em what they do to Guantanamo Bay prisoners
They dominate the airwaves and lie to the listeners
Presenting false information intended to condition us
The black man's thinking since slavery is the evidence
Most don't understand what the Willie Lynch Letter meant
Centuries of self hate in divisions of blacks
Now they twist the difference between racism and facts
We read the Declaration of Independence with blinders
There were 9 Freemasons amongst the 56 signers
In 1870 along came the Shriners
A higher order of masonry with a secret behind them
The sword on the logo, it speaks for itself
Meaning anyone who tells the secret is put to death
Who is Hiram Abiff? What's his true identity?
The Devil's agenda be to kill us mentally continually
The wolf in sheep's clothing who fabricated divinity
The enemy who murders through lies, science and chemistry
Trickery and industry for power they forever plot
You went to war to fight for a freedom that you never got
Dirty chess moves executed by the Hidden Hand
Now they're plotting on a way to go to war with Iran
Same game used again, same wicked methods born
Just like Paul Wolfowitz had done before Desert Storm
The government is broke, they can't cater to your needs
Planned Parenthood persuading to kill your future seeds
The school system misleads, they money hungry savage vultures
If you chase degrees you better get you one in agriculture
Now it's questions in the music are you in the other mix
Why the hell you covering your eyes and throwing up the 6
Did you give your soul away, a price that you cannot afford
Did you take from Satan what you could've got from the Lord
God is DNA, baffling it might seem
His existence is rooted in the number 19
His origin comes from where the mathematics say he's from
D the fourth letter, N is fourteen and A is one
Who will prevail in the end, the divine or the evil?
This war that's going on is for the minds of the people
Calamities keep increasing world confusion bound to deepen
Nobody can take control of their surroundings if they're sleeping
[Hook]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JgM7_0Bius
[Intro: K-Rino]
You don't see it but it's right there in front of you (x3)
[Verse 1: K-Rino]
They wanna depopulate the civilians
Nowadays they say it's easier to kill than to try to control millions
National debt sits in the trillions
And there's a plot to steal the birthright of the children of Israel, the real ones
Plans to hide every revolutionary's relevance
Triggered by the FBI's counter intelligence
Leaders killed and jailed unjustly by its director
The aggressor J. Edgar Hoover, the racist cross dresser
His orchestration of hatred laced investigations
The infiltration of civil rights organizations
Assassination to character, defamations through media
Even today used in deceiving and misleading ya
Believe in the war motivated lies they feeding ya
Corporate American thieves get greedier and greedier
Neo-cons hate the poor, they spent years denouncing 'em
The poor built this country but nobody's looking out for them
[Hook: K-Rino]
You don't see it but it's right there in front of you
(Left side, right side, over you and under you)
You don't see it but it's right there in front of you
(Right side, left side, over you and under you)
You don't see it but it's right there in front of you
(Left side, right side, over you and under you)
You don't see it but it's right there in front of you
(Right side, left side, over behind and under you)
[Verse 2: K-Rino]
Propaganda and TV nonsense keep people unconscious
Pompous governments keep sponsoring bomb hits
Honesty is far gone, the land is a war zone
Your family and your children consuming animal hormones
Nothing is organic, nearly everything real is gone
Fast food places selling great meat with silicone
Everyday we pay for it, now the whole nation's sick
Addictive and money driven drugs are what the patients get
Any natural remedy the FDA sanctions it
'Cause they don't want the cure, they want the money that they make from it
The USA's a corporation, wealth is the emphasis
Prison industrial complexes, slave businesses
Stock market interested, the reason that they build them
In advance is cause they know eventually they're gonna fill 'em
Orchestrated the system to incarcerate your children
And project future inmates based on that to make millions
[Hook]
[Verse 3: K-Rino]
The truth was never taught by the enemy and it won't be
The real power is always the entity you don't see
Subconsciously planted in your head is where he wants to be
Thousands of media powers owned by three companies
85 percent of the whole planet in darkness
Spend millions on sports teams while the homeless are starving
Nobody wants to protest, rally or picket
But there's a line around the corner for them concert tickets
Soldiers dying everyday, you keep sending them out
I wanna send 5000 killers to Zimmerman's house
The Rockefeller's and the Bush family in the same box G
Henry Ford all of them supported the Nazis
Members of the Tea Party still telling black jokes
You wearing the clothes but the designer hates black folks
Reporters wanna get dirt, sound bites and excerpts
CNN must mean Corrupt News Network
Lost every dime you had riding with the wrong stock
Made in USA is dead, China got it on lock
Lost your 401k and every paper you was holding
Cause you invested in something somebody else was controlling
They make it go up and down, rise high or fall deep
The markets manipulated by people on Wall Street
Talk about the Middle East like America's errorless
University campus and movie theater terrorists
True devilish temperament, the government is infamous
Ask 'em what they do to Guantanamo Bay prisoners
They dominate the airwaves and lie to the listeners
Presenting false information intended to condition us
The black man's thinking since slavery is the evidence
Most don't understand what the Willie Lynch Letter meant
Centuries of self hate in divisions of blacks
Now they twist the difference between racism and facts
We read the Declaration of Independence with blinders
There were 9 Freemasons amongst the 56 signers
In 1870 along came the Shriners
A higher order of masonry with a secret behind them
The sword on the logo, it speaks for itself
Meaning anyone who tells the secret is put to death
Who is Hiram Abiff? What's his true identity?
The Devil's agenda be to kill us mentally continually
The wolf in sheep's clothing who fabricated divinity
The enemy who murders through lies, science and chemistry
Trickery and industry for power they forever plot
You went to war to fight for a freedom that you never got
Dirty chess moves executed by the Hidden Hand
Now they're plotting on a way to go to war with Iran
Same game used again, same wicked methods born
Just like Paul Wolfowitz had done before Desert Storm
The government is broke, they can't cater to your needs
Planned Parenthood persuading to kill your future seeds
The school system misleads, they money hungry savage vultures
If you chase degrees you better get you one in agriculture
Now it's questions in the music are you in the other mix
Why the hell you covering your eyes and throwing up the 6
Did you give your soul away, a price that you cannot afford
Did you take from Satan what you could've got from the Lord
God is DNA, baffling it might seem
His existence is rooted in the number 19
His origin comes from where the mathematics say he's from
D the fourth letter, N is fourteen and A is one
Who will prevail in the end, the divine or the evil?
This war that's going on is for the minds of the people
Calamities keep increasing world confusion bound to deepen
Nobody can take control of their surroundings if they're sleeping
[Hook]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JgM7_0Bius
21 March 2018 04:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hmm... Eesti mõjukamaks poliitikuks kutsutid Marju Lauristin
i ..DNA baaside vastalisusest eip leidnud palju infot enam.. kuhu see kadunud ..
veel natuke oli andmete kogumise vastast ja privaatsuse teema.. kuid eks ta ikka meie ingel, vähmasti eesti sotsidel pole internatisionaal ainukesea.. ...
i ..DNA baaside vastalisusest eip leidnud palju infot enam.. kuhu see kadunud ..
veel natuke oli andmete kogumise vastast ja privaatsuse teema.. kuid eks ta ikka meie ingel, vähmasti eesti sotsidel pole internatisionaal ainukesea.. ...
21 March 2018 04:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Toomas Sirge kas peaks kirikulistega hakkama gängsta räpp lyyrikaid üle vaatama ?
// Allar Kaljundi
// Allar Kaljundi
21 March 2018 03:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://genius.com/Dennis-rodman-and-george-stephanopoulos-this-week-transcript-dennis-rodman-on-his-trip-to-north-korea-annotated
'This Week' Transcript: Dennis Rodman on His Trip to North Korea
Dennis Rodman & George Stephanopoulos
VERIFIED COMMENTARY BY
Christopher Schroeder
0:00
1 5
'THIS WEEK' TRANSCRIPT: DENNIS RODMAN ON HIS TRIP TO NORTH KOREA LYRICS
STEPHANOPOULOS: And we are back now with "THIS WEEK's" weirdest encounter. Top of the news in North Korea, the first American to meet Kim Jong-un, not John Kerry or even Jimmy Carter, nope, it was Dennis Rodman, AKA "The Worm."
They watch basketball. Kim is a big fan, but that was just the beginning. Some ice skating too, an aquarium visit, then a long dinner and lots of drinks with one of the world's most mysterious and dangerous men.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DENNIS RODMAN, FORMER BASKETBALL PLAYER: I love him. The guy is awesome. He was so honest.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
STEPHANOPOULOS: That about a dictator who presides over prison camps, allows millions to starve, and has threatened to destroy the United States. Amazingly, Rodman now has more firsthand impressions of Kim than any other American.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
COL. STEPHEN GANYARD, FORMER ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE: There is nobody at the CIA who could tell you more personally about Kim Jong-un than Dennis Rodman, and that in itself is scary.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
STEPHANOPOULOS: And Dennis Rodman joins us right now.
(LAUGHTER)
STEPHANOPOULOS: I guess you don't find it scary.
RODMAN: No, it's not scary. It's amazingly, man, wild, man. You know what, it was such a great experience. Me and my -- (INAUDIBLE) son, (INAUDIBLE), we went there, man, and it wasn't supposed to be like that. It was supposed to be like, just meet the guy and just have a good time.
STEPHANOPOULOS: And it turned into such an event. And I have to ask you first, when you said you love Kim and think he's awesome, were you aware of his threats to destroy the United States and his regime's horrendous record on human rights?
RODMAN: One thing about that, you know what? I didn't look at all that right there. I understand what he's doing. I don't condone that. I hate the fact that he's doing that but the fact is that, you know what, that's a human being, though. He let his guards, he did one day to me, made a friend. I didn't talk about that. I understand now. I understand that.
(CROSSTALK)
STEPHANOPOULOS: But do you think you have a responsibility to ask him about it so that you don't be perceived as sort of propping up his regime, his cult of personality?
RODMAN: This is what I think, when you grow up in that -- an environment, especially when your grandpa and your father -- now, one thing, the kid is only 28 years old.
STEPHANOPOULOS: You called them great leaders. Do you really believe that?
RODMAN: What I saw in that country, I saw in that country and I saw people respect him and his family and that's what I mean about that.
(CROSSTALK)
STEPHANOPOULOS: Aren't they forced to?
RODMAN: Huh?
STEPHANOPOULOS: Aren't they forced to?
RODMAN: Well, I say no because I think he's -- (INAUDIBLE) something because this is a different view because I sat with him for two days. And one thing he asked me to give Obama something to say and do one thing. He wants Obama to do one thing, call him.
STEPHANOPOULOS: He wants a call from President Obama?
RODMAN: That's right. He told me that. He said, if you can, Dennis, I don't want to do war. I don't want to do war. He said that to me.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Did you say, why don't you pick up the phone and call President Obama?
RODMAN: No, you know, it's a different story. It's a different story because, guess what, the kid is only 28 years old, 28. He's not his dad. Not his grandpa. He's 28 years old.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So you think he's different. What did he tell you about America and what did you learn about him?
RODMAN: Guess what, the one thing I said to him, I said, we talked about -- if you see the clips or whatever, he loves basketball. And I said, Obama loves basketball, let's start there, all right? Start there. If you see the quotes in the papers, he says that. He says that about sports. Both of you guys love basketball so much.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But that's one tiny bit of common ground. Did you get any sense from him that he was looking to change the relationship with the United States?
RODMAN: Well, one thing about him -- one thing I noticed about him, he's very humble. He's very humble, man. As a kid he's very humble. He's very -- he's very strong as a man, he's very strong. But guess what, he don't want war. That's one thing he don't want.
STEPHANOPOULOS: He said in the past that he would destroy the United States.
RODMAN: Well, I just think that's coming from his father. I think as a young man, I mean, he don't want anything…
STEPHANOPOULOS: What else does he know about the United States and President Obama from what you could tell?
RODMAN: I can tell by him, he does one thing, he loves -- he loves power. He loves control. Because others, you know, dad and stuff like that, but he just -- he's a great guy. He's just a great guy. If you sit down and talk to him, you know, perception is perceiving how things work.
STEPHANOPOULOS: A great guy who puts 200,000 people in prison camps?
RODMAN: Well, you know, guess what, it's amazing how we do the same thing here.
STEPHANOPOULOS: We have prison camps here in the United States?
RODMAN: We don't have prison camps, guess what, this is all politics, right? This is all politics, right? And the one thing, he don't want to do that. He don't want to do that. But you know what, it's more like it -- I'm not like a diplomat, I don't want to do that…
STEPHANOPOULOS: But it sounds like you're apologizing for him.
RODMAN: No, I'm not apologizing for him. I think the fact that, you know, he's a good guy to me. Guess what, he's my friend. Guess what, I don't condone what he does, but as far as a person to person, he's my friend. But as far as what he does, you deal with it.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Someone who hypothetically is a murderer who is your friend is still a murderer.
RODMAN: Well, you know what, seriously, you know what, guess what, guess what, what I did, what I did was history, was history and guess what, it's just like we do over here in America, right?
It's amazing that we have presidents over here do the same thing, right? It's amazing that Bill Clinton could do one thing and have sex with his secretary and do one thing and really get away with it and still be powerful, not...
(CROSSTALK)
STEPHANOPOULOS: How can you compare that to prison camps?
RODMAN: No, prison camp is one thing. We don't need to do one thing, object that. We don't to do it, object that. But guess what, we do one thing, like a friend to friend, right? It's a friend to friend. He's a friend to me. That's about it.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So you're going to go back?
RODMAN: Yes, I am. I'm going to go back and do one thing and find out more what's really going on. Find out more.
STEPHANOPOULOS: OK. Next time you go back you should bring this report from Human Rights Watch with you and maybe ask him questions about that as well. You might learn a lot more and it might press him as well.
But thank you for coming on this morning and sharing your impressions.
RODMAN: But either way, either way, guess what though, guess what, (INAUDIBLE) report.
STEPHANOPOULOS: OK.
RODMAN: Guess what, guess what, don't hate me, don't hate me, guess what, don't hate me, guess what, don't hate me.
'This Week' Transcript: Dennis Rodman on His Trip to North Korea
Dennis Rodman & George Stephanopoulos
VERIFIED COMMENTARY BY
Christopher Schroeder
0:00
1 5
'THIS WEEK' TRANSCRIPT: DENNIS RODMAN ON HIS TRIP TO NORTH KOREA LYRICS
STEPHANOPOULOS: And we are back now with "THIS WEEK's" weirdest encounter. Top of the news in North Korea, the first American to meet Kim Jong-un, not John Kerry or even Jimmy Carter, nope, it was Dennis Rodman, AKA "The Worm."
They watch basketball. Kim is a big fan, but that was just the beginning. Some ice skating too, an aquarium visit, then a long dinner and lots of drinks with one of the world's most mysterious and dangerous men.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DENNIS RODMAN, FORMER BASKETBALL PLAYER: I love him. The guy is awesome. He was so honest.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
STEPHANOPOULOS: That about a dictator who presides over prison camps, allows millions to starve, and has threatened to destroy the United States. Amazingly, Rodman now has more firsthand impressions of Kim than any other American.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
COL. STEPHEN GANYARD, FORMER ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE: There is nobody at the CIA who could tell you more personally about Kim Jong-un than Dennis Rodman, and that in itself is scary.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
STEPHANOPOULOS: And Dennis Rodman joins us right now.
(LAUGHTER)
STEPHANOPOULOS: I guess you don't find it scary.
RODMAN: No, it's not scary. It's amazingly, man, wild, man. You know what, it was such a great experience. Me and my -- (INAUDIBLE) son, (INAUDIBLE), we went there, man, and it wasn't supposed to be like that. It was supposed to be like, just meet the guy and just have a good time.
STEPHANOPOULOS: And it turned into such an event. And I have to ask you first, when you said you love Kim and think he's awesome, were you aware of his threats to destroy the United States and his regime's horrendous record on human rights?
RODMAN: One thing about that, you know what? I didn't look at all that right there. I understand what he's doing. I don't condone that. I hate the fact that he's doing that but the fact is that, you know what, that's a human being, though. He let his guards, he did one day to me, made a friend. I didn't talk about that. I understand now. I understand that.
(CROSSTALK)
STEPHANOPOULOS: But do you think you have a responsibility to ask him about it so that you don't be perceived as sort of propping up his regime, his cult of personality?
RODMAN: This is what I think, when you grow up in that -- an environment, especially when your grandpa and your father -- now, one thing, the kid is only 28 years old.
STEPHANOPOULOS: You called them great leaders. Do you really believe that?
RODMAN: What I saw in that country, I saw in that country and I saw people respect him and his family and that's what I mean about that.
(CROSSTALK)
STEPHANOPOULOS: Aren't they forced to?
RODMAN: Huh?
STEPHANOPOULOS: Aren't they forced to?
RODMAN: Well, I say no because I think he's -- (INAUDIBLE) something because this is a different view because I sat with him for two days. And one thing he asked me to give Obama something to say and do one thing. He wants Obama to do one thing, call him.
STEPHANOPOULOS: He wants a call from President Obama?
RODMAN: That's right. He told me that. He said, if you can, Dennis, I don't want to do war. I don't want to do war. He said that to me.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Did you say, why don't you pick up the phone and call President Obama?
RODMAN: No, you know, it's a different story. It's a different story because, guess what, the kid is only 28 years old, 28. He's not his dad. Not his grandpa. He's 28 years old.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So you think he's different. What did he tell you about America and what did you learn about him?
RODMAN: Guess what, the one thing I said to him, I said, we talked about -- if you see the clips or whatever, he loves basketball. And I said, Obama loves basketball, let's start there, all right? Start there. If you see the quotes in the papers, he says that. He says that about sports. Both of you guys love basketball so much.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But that's one tiny bit of common ground. Did you get any sense from him that he was looking to change the relationship with the United States?
RODMAN: Well, one thing about him -- one thing I noticed about him, he's very humble. He's very humble, man. As a kid he's very humble. He's very -- he's very strong as a man, he's very strong. But guess what, he don't want war. That's one thing he don't want.
STEPHANOPOULOS: He said in the past that he would destroy the United States.
RODMAN: Well, I just think that's coming from his father. I think as a young man, I mean, he don't want anything…
STEPHANOPOULOS: What else does he know about the United States and President Obama from what you could tell?
RODMAN: I can tell by him, he does one thing, he loves -- he loves power. He loves control. Because others, you know, dad and stuff like that, but he just -- he's a great guy. He's just a great guy. If you sit down and talk to him, you know, perception is perceiving how things work.
STEPHANOPOULOS: A great guy who puts 200,000 people in prison camps?
RODMAN: Well, you know, guess what, it's amazing how we do the same thing here.
STEPHANOPOULOS: We have prison camps here in the United States?
RODMAN: We don't have prison camps, guess what, this is all politics, right? This is all politics, right? And the one thing, he don't want to do that. He don't want to do that. But you know what, it's more like it -- I'm not like a diplomat, I don't want to do that…
STEPHANOPOULOS: But it sounds like you're apologizing for him.
RODMAN: No, I'm not apologizing for him. I think the fact that, you know, he's a good guy to me. Guess what, he's my friend. Guess what, I don't condone what he does, but as far as a person to person, he's my friend. But as far as what he does, you deal with it.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Someone who hypothetically is a murderer who is your friend is still a murderer.
RODMAN: Well, you know what, seriously, you know what, guess what, guess what, what I did, what I did was history, was history and guess what, it's just like we do over here in America, right?
It's amazing that we have presidents over here do the same thing, right? It's amazing that Bill Clinton could do one thing and have sex with his secretary and do one thing and really get away with it and still be powerful, not...
(CROSSTALK)
STEPHANOPOULOS: How can you compare that to prison camps?
RODMAN: No, prison camp is one thing. We don't need to do one thing, object that. We don't to do it, object that. But guess what, we do one thing, like a friend to friend, right? It's a friend to friend. He's a friend to me. That's about it.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So you're going to go back?
RODMAN: Yes, I am. I'm going to go back and do one thing and find out more what's really going on. Find out more.
STEPHANOPOULOS: OK. Next time you go back you should bring this report from Human Rights Watch with you and maybe ask him questions about that as well. You might learn a lot more and it might press him as well.
But thank you for coming on this morning and sharing your impressions.
RODMAN: But either way, either way, guess what though, guess what, (INAUDIBLE) report.
STEPHANOPOULOS: OK.
RODMAN: Guess what, guess what, don't hate me, don't hate me, guess what, don't hate me, guess what, don't hate me.
https://genius.com/Dennis-rodman-and-george-stephanopoulos-this-week-transcript-dennis-rodman-on-his-trip-to-north-korea-annotated
21 March 2018 03:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
these "darkies" know how to step on gas, aren't they ? This will happen when you got a lot of dedicated people, planty time with weed & books, clubs
https://youtu.be/nnmHYxx4nsk
[Intro: K-Rino]
As we go deeper
The veil of ignorance
[Hook: K-Rino]
Now we're lifting up the veil
Truth will never ever fail
[K-Rino]
Lift the veil, so we can uncover what the facade is
The best question a person can ask, is who God is
Right up the to the minute that I'm speaking, there are doubts
Of God's existence, his identity and his whereabouts
And life's purpose, and how this universe functions
For eons, God hid Himself from amongst men
So confusion set in and after many years
Man developed his own philosophies and ideas
Of who the creator is and how we all came
Without scriptural evidence to verify claims
Devils could wickedly arise aims
Who realized the truth and then intentionally exercised change
And over time the holiness was stripped down and took
God's word was not always in the form of a book
The laws and the wisdom was always told
To the prophets, originally and placed on a scroll
Which those who wanted to read, came and looked on
But eventually was compiled into a book form
The variations came through translations the Greeks knew
The original tongue and scriptures came from was Hebrew
The foundation of Christianity was drawn up from it
The Greek translation, was known as the Septuagint
A word meaning "Seventy" and that number was taken
Because 72 scholars did the work of translating
The different interpretations are served as a deterrent
There were multiple versions that predated the current
The Bishop Bible, the Geneva Bible of Matthews;
The Tyndale and the Wycliffe in 1382
The Vulgate and Martin Luther even had a version
By him the Old Testament was worded into German
In the 1500's but he let it be known
There was a Latin version in 400 BC by St. Jerome
It was many more who got hold of the word and mishandled it
And they got it from the Hebrew, original manuscript
Confusion! Whether you use a old one or a new one
The question is, with so many to choose which is the true one?
A few years ago, I eluded
To the fact in the Catholic Bible, seven extra books are included
Let me list 'em for those who might dispute it
1st and 2nd Maccabees, Ecclesiastics is the Tobit and Judith
The Baruch and the "Wisdom of Solomon" were dismissed
That's how it went from 73 to 66
And contradictions started landing
When man began to change God's words and lean towards his own understanding
Now modern day idol worship rules the mainstream
Christianity and Christ teachings are not the same thing
When the ruler Constantine became a Christian
He made men combine religious principles with the ways of the Pagans
Holidays like Easter were based on the phrase:
That Jesus died and rose from the grave in three days
But if he died on a Friday it's untrue;
And rose on a Sunday, then that would make it only two!
They celebrate his birth in December - call it immaculate;
But if you read the scriptures, then that timeline's inaccurate
See, shepherds don't have their flocks out in the winter;
Which proves that the Christ was not born in December
See if Jesus was thirty-three and a half when he was killed
And his murder took place after the passover meal;
Passover was in March or April, this is a fact;
If he was thirty-three and one-half year, let's count back
See a half a year's six months, subtract from where I told ya
Six months from March or April, is September or October - It's over!
For truth many died and others bled;
What did Jesus have to do with rabbits and colored eggs?
See the Pagans had a ritual when spring time came around
And women painted their bodies and hid till they were found
And homosexual men hid too;
And whoever found them can do any sex act they chose to
With Jesus' name lies were bred;
That tradition was passed down, and that's the reason why you hide eggs!
And if this is the true day then something's unclear;
Why does Easter fall on a different day every year?
What is Thanksgiving about? Who were the Pilgrims?
The wicked criminals who tricked the Indians and killed 'em
You love Chris Columbus, but he was no friend of ya
He left Europe and got lost. He thought he was in India
Sixty-three years later: Africa's infiltrators
The motherland invaders, American slave traders
The devious thieves, who came to Africa to seize us;
Transported the blacks on a ship named Jesus
Across the Atlantic, made stops in the Caribbean
Depicted Jesus' image, as a blond European
Conniving, conditioned our minds and put the lies in
When Revelation 1:14 clearly describes him
This won't close ‘til all of the lies have been exposed
The CIA and FBI knows of UFOs
See, some claim conspiracy, and mock presented truths
Go research the evidence, and documented proof
You can find 'em in the Bible, the prophets know what they are
In the book of Ezekiel, the wheel that he saw!
The government knows they're real but it rarely surfaces
But more importantly, they know what their real purpose is
Economy falling, people tricked by the government
Calamities and plays are all part of God's judgment
And in the end real truth is never curtailed
When the facts get covered up, we're lifting up the veil
[Outro: K-Rino]
Ha-ha-ha, come on lifting up the veil
(lifting up the veil), the veil of ignorance (yes sir)
Study (study), learn the truth
Don't just take what people say on face value
Do your research, yeah
I know you been taught like this, all your life
I know what mama said, I know they didn't give you this in school
Elementary, middle school, high school, college
Even the church, so that mean it's up to you
Get your knowledge up
Don't be afraid to challenge the preacher and the teacher
Ask questions, read, learn history true history
Oh yeah, and there's a man names Elijah Muhammad
Check him out, ha-ha you might learn something
https://youtu.be/nnmHYxx4nsk
[Intro: K-Rino]
As we go deeper
The veil of ignorance
[Hook: K-Rino]
Now we're lifting up the veil
Truth will never ever fail
[K-Rino]
Lift the veil, so we can uncover what the facade is
The best question a person can ask, is who God is
Right up the to the minute that I'm speaking, there are doubts
Of God's existence, his identity and his whereabouts
And life's purpose, and how this universe functions
For eons, God hid Himself from amongst men
So confusion set in and after many years
Man developed his own philosophies and ideas
Of who the creator is and how we all came
Without scriptural evidence to verify claims
Devils could wickedly arise aims
Who realized the truth and then intentionally exercised change
And over time the holiness was stripped down and took
God's word was not always in the form of a book
The laws and the wisdom was always told
To the prophets, originally and placed on a scroll
Which those who wanted to read, came and looked on
But eventually was compiled into a book form
The variations came through translations the Greeks knew
The original tongue and scriptures came from was Hebrew
The foundation of Christianity was drawn up from it
The Greek translation, was known as the Septuagint
A word meaning "Seventy" and that number was taken
Because 72 scholars did the work of translating
The different interpretations are served as a deterrent
There were multiple versions that predated the current
The Bishop Bible, the Geneva Bible of Matthews;
The Tyndale and the Wycliffe in 1382
The Vulgate and Martin Luther even had a version
By him the Old Testament was worded into German
In the 1500's but he let it be known
There was a Latin version in 400 BC by St. Jerome
It was many more who got hold of the word and mishandled it
And they got it from the Hebrew, original manuscript
Confusion! Whether you use a old one or a new one
The question is, with so many to choose which is the true one?
A few years ago, I eluded
To the fact in the Catholic Bible, seven extra books are included
Let me list 'em for those who might dispute it
1st and 2nd Maccabees, Ecclesiastics is the Tobit and Judith
The Baruch and the "Wisdom of Solomon" were dismissed
That's how it went from 73 to 66
And contradictions started landing
When man began to change God's words and lean towards his own understanding
Now modern day idol worship rules the mainstream
Christianity and Christ teachings are not the same thing
When the ruler Constantine became a Christian
He made men combine religious principles with the ways of the Pagans
Holidays like Easter were based on the phrase:
That Jesus died and rose from the grave in three days
But if he died on a Friday it's untrue;
And rose on a Sunday, then that would make it only two!
They celebrate his birth in December - call it immaculate;
But if you read the scriptures, then that timeline's inaccurate
See, shepherds don't have their flocks out in the winter;
Which proves that the Christ was not born in December
See if Jesus was thirty-three and a half when he was killed
And his murder took place after the passover meal;
Passover was in March or April, this is a fact;
If he was thirty-three and one-half year, let's count back
See a half a year's six months, subtract from where I told ya
Six months from March or April, is September or October - It's over!
For truth many died and others bled;
What did Jesus have to do with rabbits and colored eggs?
See the Pagans had a ritual when spring time came around
And women painted their bodies and hid till they were found
And homosexual men hid too;
And whoever found them can do any sex act they chose to
With Jesus' name lies were bred;
That tradition was passed down, and that's the reason why you hide eggs!
And if this is the true day then something's unclear;
Why does Easter fall on a different day every year?
What is Thanksgiving about? Who were the Pilgrims?
The wicked criminals who tricked the Indians and killed 'em
You love Chris Columbus, but he was no friend of ya
He left Europe and got lost. He thought he was in India
Sixty-three years later: Africa's infiltrators
The motherland invaders, American slave traders
The devious thieves, who came to Africa to seize us;
Transported the blacks on a ship named Jesus
Across the Atlantic, made stops in the Caribbean
Depicted Jesus' image, as a blond European
Conniving, conditioned our minds and put the lies in
When Revelation 1:14 clearly describes him
This won't close ‘til all of the lies have been exposed
The CIA and FBI knows of UFOs
See, some claim conspiracy, and mock presented truths
Go research the evidence, and documented proof
You can find 'em in the Bible, the prophets know what they are
In the book of Ezekiel, the wheel that he saw!
The government knows they're real but it rarely surfaces
But more importantly, they know what their real purpose is
Economy falling, people tricked by the government
Calamities and plays are all part of God's judgment
And in the end real truth is never curtailed
When the facts get covered up, we're lifting up the veil
[Outro: K-Rino]
Ha-ha-ha, come on lifting up the veil
(lifting up the veil), the veil of ignorance (yes sir)
Study (study), learn the truth
Don't just take what people say on face value
Do your research, yeah
I know you been taught like this, all your life
I know what mama said, I know they didn't give you this in school
Elementary, middle school, high school, college
Even the church, so that mean it's up to you
Get your knowledge up
Don't be afraid to challenge the preacher and the teacher
Ask questions, read, learn history true history
Oh yeah, and there's a man names Elijah Muhammad
Check him out, ha-ha you might learn something
https://youtu.be/nnmHYxx4nsk
21 March 2018 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Like I said I never said I wasn't with the CIA. Cats are not always loyal, but I still like them. The universe is a prison. My creator is my mother. I’m an uninvited guest. I live in a cardboard box. I dream of a comfortable house on stilts in a vast swamp "
"I indeed acknowledge many differences between computers and bananas, and I should know because I used to be a computer technician on the weekends"
" from the source. Drugs are my favorite songs. I believe in the emerging salvation of convergent entities. The Dreamer's Dictionary is my favorite book. I am a little hole with light coming out of it. I am four personas."
" If asked to draw a circle, I would but no one would hear it. I always try to be nice and not talk in riddles. I am a thousand faces."
"I'm the national character. I’ve seen the blue hills. Never again! Someone has to do something with someone. Both sides of the Atlantic. I would like very much to live in a neighborhood where children would ask me to play stickball with them. Property is an illusion. On a micro level things seem so small. Animals make sense. Times change."
https://genius.com/Ryan-ridge-famous-once-annotated
"I indeed acknowledge many differences between computers and bananas, and I should know because I used to be a computer technician on the weekends"
" from the source. Drugs are my favorite songs. I believe in the emerging salvation of convergent entities. The Dreamer's Dictionary is my favorite book. I am a little hole with light coming out of it. I am four personas."
" If asked to draw a circle, I would but no one would hear it. I always try to be nice and not talk in riddles. I am a thousand faces."
"I'm the national character. I’ve seen the blue hills. Never again! Someone has to do something with someone. Both sides of the Atlantic. I would like very much to live in a neighborhood where children would ask me to play stickball with them. Property is an illusion. On a micro level things seem so small. Animals make sense. Times change."
https://genius.com/Ryan-ridge-famous-once-annotated
https://genius.com/Ryan-ridge-famous-once-annotated
21 March 2018 03:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://youtu.be/WkCUzGD_n2I
// middle part, can be skipped for now //
// middle part, can be skipped for now //
https://youtu.be/WkCUzGD_n2I
21 March 2018 03:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// middle part, to much drop in //
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkR1zA38ld4
[Bigg Jus]
Yo word the fuck up this is for.. (DJ Mr. Len)
My motherfuckin (El-P) undisputed Stylemaster
(CoFlow) Phase 2 (Bigg Jus) yo check it
The elevated trainline of the J line and the A
Where I first encountered the likes of Baby168
Stan, Iz the Wiz, K56, T.K.A
Kingpin throwups and way back then was it
Who i saw rippin i write up on the inside rode E
As I progressed to the 7 yard, early Giant D
Caine, Officer147, C.I.A
Fuzz, Comet, Blade, Ajax and Angelduster
Cuttin school with Roman, hittin my first uni-wide
Ridin the L, overlookin the handball courts
A giant top to bottom, Flame Demo T.P.A
Ghost T.M.R, Ezo C.U.K
Switchin gears, Later on towards the end
Who could forget the Master Destruction
Led by Quik, Sach and Min
Destroyin all lines of thought, the Vamp Squad were bugged
I was a young kid, watchin these writers styles that bugged
Fab Five Freddy, Doc, Mono, Stitch, Slug
I was a young kid, watchin these writers styles that bugged
Futura, ?, Lee, Kay, Park, Dirty Slug
I keep it movin like Flint 707
I'm out to bomb Ban 2, Gun Hill Road 2's and 5's
Riff 170, so hard this style be, F.B.I
Pie/High?, Dart, Bramble?, 147 Shy
Rockin whole cars, U.A, Seen, Kel and Crash
Just to name a few style elements from my past then
While my crew tend to see technology in it's grasp
From All City built upon the foundation of true masters
Therefore wanna architect, ?deform? b-boyism I'm mackin
NY Indelible will continue to kick advance material that's classic
From the Merrick Bus Yards to the uptown 1 2's and 3's
From the Queens parts and lay-ups to the Brooklyn I-N-D's
I keep on like T-Kid, Lionel, West, Haze SE
Top Cat, rockin them tall letters from Philly
To the transit cop, Curley, Furria, Hickey and Ski
Lady Pink, Lady Heart, add the essence Barbara Eva
Searchin for the hidden message, hit up my aerosol alphabetics
Subvert word brutalizer
Critical thinkin modifier
Bigg Jus, Lune TNS, stark black tunnels, a live wire
Soaked in burgundy Flomaster
Marsh Opaque, homemade Pentels, Red Devil
Rust o' flat black, blend with Krylon Jade green
Mixed with amazon green, hit the ghostyards
Like T.N.T Skeme, the ex-vandal
Nicer T-A-T, Ebony Dukes
Vamm and Lee163, V-F-R Sharp Delta chrome
Iron Mike, 3YB
SUPERKOOL-223, Cay-161
Jon156, Cuz NFC
Stay High 149
Jester Mitch 77, El-T-N-S
Vade, Hondo U-G-A
Original freight hitter RibOne, AB 63
Cope Two, still showin versatility
Peace to Dondi and 168 Tracy
I was a young kid, watchin these writers styles that bugged
Fab Five Freddy, Doc, Mono, Stitch, Slug
I was a young kid, watchin these writers styles that bugged
Futura, ?, Lee, Kay, Park, Dirty Slug
Straight up, for niggas who don't understand
Obviously this wasn't made for you, so fuck you
Bigg Jus, Lune TNS and we out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkR1zA38ld4
[Bigg Jus]
Yo word the fuck up this is for.. (DJ Mr. Len)
My motherfuckin (El-P) undisputed Stylemaster
(CoFlow) Phase 2 (Bigg Jus) yo check it
The elevated trainline of the J line and the A
Where I first encountered the likes of Baby168
Stan, Iz the Wiz, K56, T.K.A
Kingpin throwups and way back then was it
Who i saw rippin i write up on the inside rode E
As I progressed to the 7 yard, early Giant D
Caine, Officer147, C.I.A
Fuzz, Comet, Blade, Ajax and Angelduster
Cuttin school with Roman, hittin my first uni-wide
Ridin the L, overlookin the handball courts
A giant top to bottom, Flame Demo T.P.A
Ghost T.M.R, Ezo C.U.K
Switchin gears, Later on towards the end
Who could forget the Master Destruction
Led by Quik, Sach and Min
Destroyin all lines of thought, the Vamp Squad were bugged
I was a young kid, watchin these writers styles that bugged
Fab Five Freddy, Doc, Mono, Stitch, Slug
I was a young kid, watchin these writers styles that bugged
Futura, ?, Lee, Kay, Park, Dirty Slug
I keep it movin like Flint 707
I'm out to bomb Ban 2, Gun Hill Road 2's and 5's
Riff 170, so hard this style be, F.B.I
Pie/High?, Dart, Bramble?, 147 Shy
Rockin whole cars, U.A, Seen, Kel and Crash
Just to name a few style elements from my past then
While my crew tend to see technology in it's grasp
From All City built upon the foundation of true masters
Therefore wanna architect, ?deform? b-boyism I'm mackin
NY Indelible will continue to kick advance material that's classic
From the Merrick Bus Yards to the uptown 1 2's and 3's
From the Queens parts and lay-ups to the Brooklyn I-N-D's
I keep on like T-Kid, Lionel, West, Haze SE
Top Cat, rockin them tall letters from Philly
To the transit cop, Curley, Furria, Hickey and Ski
Lady Pink, Lady Heart, add the essence Barbara Eva
Searchin for the hidden message, hit up my aerosol alphabetics
Subvert word brutalizer
Critical thinkin modifier
Bigg Jus, Lune TNS, stark black tunnels, a live wire
Soaked in burgundy Flomaster
Marsh Opaque, homemade Pentels, Red Devil
Rust o' flat black, blend with Krylon Jade green
Mixed with amazon green, hit the ghostyards
Like T.N.T Skeme, the ex-vandal
Nicer T-A-T, Ebony Dukes
Vamm and Lee163, V-F-R Sharp Delta chrome
Iron Mike, 3YB
SUPERKOOL-223, Cay-161
Jon156, Cuz NFC
Stay High 149
Jester Mitch 77, El-T-N-S
Vade, Hondo U-G-A
Original freight hitter RibOne, AB 63
Cope Two, still showin versatility
Peace to Dondi and 168 Tracy
I was a young kid, watchin these writers styles that bugged
Fab Five Freddy, Doc, Mono, Stitch, Slug
I was a young kid, watchin these writers styles that bugged
Futura, ?, Lee, Kay, Park, Dirty Slug
Straight up, for niggas who don't understand
Obviously this wasn't made for you, so fuck you
Bigg Jus, Lune TNS and we out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkR1zA38ld4
21 March 2018 03:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jI4MWiv56M
[Intro: Howard Jones]
Imagine you were given one hour
Exactly sixty minutes and zero seconds to put your entire life
And the world around you in total perspective
What would you say? What would it sound like?
[Choir music (By The Waters of Babylon)]
By the waters the waters of Babylon
We lay down and wept and wept for Thee Zion
We remember we remember we remember Thee Zion
[Ill Bill]
We've unraveled the Bible code, the rifle explodes
Demand attention like a knife in your throat
They're controlling the price of your soul
Titans of stone, psychic totalitarian
Biotelemetric mind control experimentation is various
Narcotics made to inflict pain and madness
Assassins with multiple personalities
Active with full access
A backstage pass to cover up spectacular assassinations
And arms deals across the axis
Another witch hunt, religious radicals with big guns
Big plans, invisible cameras built in Japan
CIA behaviour control scientists in the cults
And formed an alliance of cult leaders, also their clients
Tech-savvy hijacker associates board planes
To practice, anxiously awaiting their global audience
Enter the core, I feel this with ease
The ultimate reality series, loaded with cameras, angles, and theories
Now hear me
[Hook]
A golden helmet blinded minds
Among ten thousand swords
Along the road to Babylon
A golden thunder silenced songs
Among ten thousand voices
On the road to Babylon
[Ill Bill]
This operation doesn't exist
The revolution will be classified
Live broadcast from the abyss
Our cities are crack spots and cardboard condominiums
Vicious and trackmarks cross minds lost in delirium
The towers dropped, blind fools, confusion who knew?
Now the world watch Saddam's execution on Youtube
Propaganda machines wage media Jihad
A teen walking to a crowded movie theatre with bombs
Reading the Qur'an, silently obedient to God
Known by many different names: Hashem, Jesus, and Allah
Exploding porn, shadow government protocols
Go to war amongst ten thousand voices on the road to Babylon
Patriot Act, sanctioned exorcism
Iranian and North Korean-built weapon systems
Budgets increase to payroll hundreds of creeps
Number of the beast, bomb London under the streets
The engineer was a popular peer
His value appeared to having nuclear weapons just shower the air
A thin line between power and fear
A martyr in tears, goodbye father
Now my final hour is here, help me
[Intro: Howard Jones]
Imagine you were given one hour
Exactly sixty minutes and zero seconds to put your entire life
And the world around you in total perspective
What would you say? What would it sound like?
[Choir music (By The Waters of Babylon)]
By the waters the waters of Babylon
We lay down and wept and wept for Thee Zion
We remember we remember we remember Thee Zion
[Ill Bill]
We've unraveled the Bible code, the rifle explodes
Demand attention like a knife in your throat
They're controlling the price of your soul
Titans of stone, psychic totalitarian
Biotelemetric mind control experimentation is various
Narcotics made to inflict pain and madness
Assassins with multiple personalities
Active with full access
A backstage pass to cover up spectacular assassinations
And arms deals across the axis
Another witch hunt, religious radicals with big guns
Big plans, invisible cameras built in Japan
CIA behaviour control scientists in the cults
And formed an alliance of cult leaders, also their clients
Tech-savvy hijacker associates board planes
To practice, anxiously awaiting their global audience
Enter the core, I feel this with ease
The ultimate reality series, loaded with cameras, angles, and theories
Now hear me
[Hook]
A golden helmet blinded minds
Among ten thousand swords
Along the road to Babylon
A golden thunder silenced songs
Among ten thousand voices
On the road to Babylon
[Ill Bill]
This operation doesn't exist
The revolution will be classified
Live broadcast from the abyss
Our cities are crack spots and cardboard condominiums
Vicious and trackmarks cross minds lost in delirium
The towers dropped, blind fools, confusion who knew?
Now the world watch Saddam's execution on Youtube
Propaganda machines wage media Jihad
A teen walking to a crowded movie theatre with bombs
Reading the Qur'an, silently obedient to God
Known by many different names: Hashem, Jesus, and Allah
Exploding porn, shadow government protocols
Go to war amongst ten thousand voices on the road to Babylon
Patriot Act, sanctioned exorcism
Iranian and North Korean-built weapon systems
Budgets increase to payroll hundreds of creeps
Number of the beast, bomb London under the streets
The engineer was a popular peer
His value appeared to having nuclear weapons just shower the air
A thin line between power and fear
A martyr in tears, goodbye father
Now my final hour is here, help me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jI4MWiv56M
21 March 2018 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"You gotta hear out all sides, that are worth to hear, that have an angle, or who is with angel, fallen or high " (MWM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gVAeMCu4Xg
[Intro: Sample]
And with the help, the help of almighty God
I know I can be strong
[Intro: Ras Kass]
Yeah, this is how to kill God
Yeah, this is how to kill God
Holocaust, Crusades, Zionism, Jihad
[Verse 1: Ras Kass]
They call me iconoclastic
My head on the platter like John the Baptist
Blasphemous, heretic, Conceited Bastard
I just ask the questions the preacher can't answer
Like why Christians end prayers and say "Amen"
When that's the Egyptian Sun God, Amun-Ra
And got a sin to say? And ain't that pagan?
And ain't pagan, meanin' "Satan"?
And if Satan gave mankind liberation
His worship of acknowledge would tip all Revelations
Of free masons, this how to kill God
Holocaust, Crusades, Zionism, Jihad
Ras Kass, God body MC
18th letter, Jay Hova, God's son and me
My freestyles ain't free
Impossible like one divinity divided into three
Same people that rape and beat ya teach ya
Rabbits lay chocolate eggs on Easter
Mormons believe prophet Joe Smith
Say Christ appeared in America 1820 and shit
Said black people is cursed
Preach polygamy and told the white man to rule the Earth
Utah still racist as can be
So mothafuck Donny and Marie
[Hook: Sample]
To make me stand alone
And with the help, the help of almighty God
I know, I know I can be strong
[Verse 2: Ras Kass]
Give 'em religion with no proof
Crucify the facts, I doubt your truth
This is how to kill God
Get 10 commandments, break all 10 laws
Exodus, chapter 20, verse 3
Thou shalt have no other gods before me
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image
But worship a white man on the cross, put your faith in it?
I'm not anti-Christ
Not anti-Islamic, anti-Semite
Never
Razzy be like Neo in The Matrix
They made us slaves and changed our names
Now it's our lineage they tryin' to claim
But I am the same
Direct descendant of King David through the passion of Christ
Cause Mary Magdalene was really Jesus' wife
Original Hebrew, black Falasha Jew
Persecuted by the Romans, the chosen few
Illuminati stole it from the Egyptian mystery school
Started flippin' our tools
And perverted our math
Master masons learned who God is, given 'em gats
Addict 'em to crack
Poverty, miseducation
Plague, oh Lord, this is how to kill God
[Hook: Sample]
[Verse 3: Ras Kass]
Black skin, baby Moses was found in a boat
In a river by the pharaoh's daughter, must have been a black man
She raised him as her own son
How a black woman pass off a white child as her own one?
You search, it's all true, that's why I'm a cynic
Why should I believe in your God, He's schizophrenic
Three personalities, give ya incest
Son his own father, never had sex with his mama
Catch Holy Ghost, CIA killed God
Center of every pentagram? It's a pentagon
Lost angel city, peep the plan
Tryna scan human beings like grocery cans
666 microchips in your hand
Navigation, your whip started the program
But Uncle Tom Bradley chipped our pets
Same satellites that track you with GPS
Did cats and dogs in the 1980s
Probably on the low, chippin' newborn babies
Niggas call me crazy? Crazy is spectators
Since my soul's at stake, I'ma collect data
If I'm goin' to Hell, you express elevator
Christmas, you celebrate a pagan holiday
Mithra, Adonis, Dionysus, Osiris
Same birthday, who rose on the third day
[Hook: Sample]
[Outro]
Yeah, this is how to kill God
Holocaust, Crusades, Zionism, Jihad
Yeah, this is how to kill God
Racism, sexism, every ism is a schism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gVAeMCu4Xg
[Intro: Sample]
And with the help, the help of almighty God
I know I can be strong
[Intro: Ras Kass]
Yeah, this is how to kill God
Yeah, this is how to kill God
Holocaust, Crusades, Zionism, Jihad
[Verse 1: Ras Kass]
They call me iconoclastic
My head on the platter like John the Baptist
Blasphemous, heretic, Conceited Bastard
I just ask the questions the preacher can't answer
Like why Christians end prayers and say "Amen"
When that's the Egyptian Sun God, Amun-Ra
And got a sin to say? And ain't that pagan?
And ain't pagan, meanin' "Satan"?
And if Satan gave mankind liberation
His worship of acknowledge would tip all Revelations
Of free masons, this how to kill God
Holocaust, Crusades, Zionism, Jihad
Ras Kass, God body MC
18th letter, Jay Hova, God's son and me
My freestyles ain't free
Impossible like one divinity divided into three
Same people that rape and beat ya teach ya
Rabbits lay chocolate eggs on Easter
Mormons believe prophet Joe Smith
Say Christ appeared in America 1820 and shit
Said black people is cursed
Preach polygamy and told the white man to rule the Earth
Utah still racist as can be
So mothafuck Donny and Marie
[Hook: Sample]
To make me stand alone
And with the help, the help of almighty God
I know, I know I can be strong
[Verse 2: Ras Kass]
Give 'em religion with no proof
Crucify the facts, I doubt your truth
This is how to kill God
Get 10 commandments, break all 10 laws
Exodus, chapter 20, verse 3
Thou shalt have no other gods before me
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image
But worship a white man on the cross, put your faith in it?
I'm not anti-Christ
Not anti-Islamic, anti-Semite
Never
Razzy be like Neo in The Matrix
They made us slaves and changed our names
Now it's our lineage they tryin' to claim
But I am the same
Direct descendant of King David through the passion of Christ
Cause Mary Magdalene was really Jesus' wife
Original Hebrew, black Falasha Jew
Persecuted by the Romans, the chosen few
Illuminati stole it from the Egyptian mystery school
Started flippin' our tools
And perverted our math
Master masons learned who God is, given 'em gats
Addict 'em to crack
Poverty, miseducation
Plague, oh Lord, this is how to kill God
[Hook: Sample]
[Verse 3: Ras Kass]
Black skin, baby Moses was found in a boat
In a river by the pharaoh's daughter, must have been a black man
She raised him as her own son
How a black woman pass off a white child as her own one?
You search, it's all true, that's why I'm a cynic
Why should I believe in your God, He's schizophrenic
Three personalities, give ya incest
Son his own father, never had sex with his mama
Catch Holy Ghost, CIA killed God
Center of every pentagram? It's a pentagon
Lost angel city, peep the plan
Tryna scan human beings like grocery cans
666 microchips in your hand
Navigation, your whip started the program
But Uncle Tom Bradley chipped our pets
Same satellites that track you with GPS
Did cats and dogs in the 1980s
Probably on the low, chippin' newborn babies
Niggas call me crazy? Crazy is spectators
Since my soul's at stake, I'ma collect data
If I'm goin' to Hell, you express elevator
Christmas, you celebrate a pagan holiday
Mithra, Adonis, Dionysus, Osiris
Same birthday, who rose on the third day
[Hook: Sample]
[Outro]
Yeah, this is how to kill God
Holocaust, Crusades, Zionism, Jihad
Yeah, this is how to kill God
Racism, sexism, every ism is a schism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gVAeMCu4Xg
21 March 2018 03:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://youtu.be/-wnBU_2tWLk
RAW engish translation:
[Part 1]
You are a child prodigy, you are my proof of God
The counter-evidence is in Roswell on dry ice
By the way, I'm always elitist
I feel lost, as if my life were the series
Stand on the roof of the skyscraper, wind fills my 'trench coat
Scarf flutters, throat smells of Tokyo by Kenzo
Goose bumps crawl up my shirt, the air should be my way
Skywalker style, I'm running, at night
People are crawling out of drawers
They were looking for themselves
The reality contains more stereotypes than I can grasp
Behind all the masks, I see the face of naked fear
Class fight, bass and drums, I light the torch
With flickering light, I attract millions of rats
Until one of the triples takes action
BND, GSG, CIA versus the prodigy
[Hook]
You are a prodigy
Even if nobody but you and me sees this
People are blind to miracles
You are the singular, you are the unique piece
You are the masterpiece that only exists once
You are a prodigy
Even if nobody but you and me sees this
People are blind to miracles
You are one in a million
It's God his world, but it's your version
[Part 2]
I know your insult, I know your defense
I know all the standard curses and their extension
I know the wounds and the scars and the revenge plans
I'm not the Pied Piper, I'm your torchbearer
And I bring in a cold fire in this school building
Parents, educators ask, "What does that mean now?
I bring the smart rage, I bring the blue blood
I'm the bad class clown who's been deprived since graduation
The chestnut-colored shadows are boxing
Staggering through the pop-china shop, Maseltov
Between gangster rapers, real rappers
Battle rappers, deep rappers
Not to mention their friends and backups
I stand with arrogant attitude, hand on the Ray Ban
Prince Pi, my role model is Patrick Bateman
You talk about conspiracy, I talk about destruction
I just know, my lot is the solution, I am the child prodigy
[Hook]
You are a prodigy
Even if nobody but you and me sees this
People are blind to miracles
You are the singular, you are the unique piece
You are the masterpiece that only exists once
You are a prodigy
Even if nobody but you and me sees this
People are blind to miracles
You are one in a million
It's God his world, but it's your version
[Part 3]
You think it's one of those head-high songs
I am Germany's Doctor Octagon
The crazy student rapper leaves on you shirts ketchup
If my buddy backupped me with his hands
Dance of molecules that break electrons
You are heartless like discos without counters
That's the Brotherhood, that's the pyramid
You're starting to feel weak, these are the cyanides
Because the subversive elements predominate
I hold against it, admittedly a bit exaggerated
They talk about peace and my everything stays
As it always was: Bilderberg, Piso-Bush, old Reich
Alone against a country of Toys, the land of you
You are German, I am not, Berlin is my fatherland
And no deputy orders according to our sense
SPD, CDU, FDP versus the prodigy
[Hook]
You are a prodigy
Even if nobody but you and me sees this
People are blind to miracles
You are the singular, you are the unique piece
You are the masterpiece that only exists once
You are a prodigy
Even if nobody but you and me sees this
People are blind to miracles
You are one in a million
It's God his world, but it's your version
-------
http://lyricstranslate.com/en/wunderkind-wonder-child.html
Noop... but stil on topic
---
[Part 1]
Du bist ein Wunderkind, du bist mein Gottbeweis
Der Gegenbeweis liegt in Roswell auf Trockeneis
Das nur nebenbei, jederzeit bin ich elitär
Ich fühl mich Lost, wie wenn mein Leben die Serie wär
Steh' auf dem Dach vom Hochhaus, Wind füllt mein' Trenchcoat
Schal flattert, Hals riecht nach Tokyo by Kenzo
Gänsehaut kriecht mein Hemd hoch, die Luft soll mein Weg sein
Skywalker-Style, ich renn' los, in der Nacht
Kriechen die Menschen aus Schubladen
Die sie sich selber gesucht haben
Die Realität enthält mehr Klischees als ich fassen kann
Hinter all den Masken seh' ich die Fratze der nackten Angst
Klassenkampf, Bass und Drums, ich zünde die Fackel an
Mit flackerndem Licht zieh' ich Millionen von Ratten an
Bis einer von den Dreibuchstabigen was unternimmt
BND, GSG, CIA versus das Wunderkind
[Hook]
Du bist ein Wunderkind
Auch wenn niemand außer dir und mir das sieht
Die Leute sind für Wunder blind
Du bist der Singular, du bist das Einzelstück
Du bist das Meisterwerk, das es nur einmal gibt
Du bist ein Wunderkind
Auch wenn niemand außer dir und mir das sieht
Die Leute sind für Wunder blind
Du bist einer aus einer Million
Es ist Gott seine Welt, doch es ist deine Version
[Part 2]
Ich kenn' ihre Beleidigung', ich kenn' deine Verteidigung
Ich kenne all die Standardflüche und ihre Erweiterung
Ich kenn' die Wunden und die Narben und die Rachepläne
Ich bin nich' der Rattenfänger, ich bin euer Fackelträger
Und ich bring ein kaltes Feuer rein in dieses Schulgebäude
Eltern, Pädagogen fragen: "Was hat das jetzt zu bedeuten?
Ich bring' die schlaue Wut, ich bring' das blaue Blut
Ich bin der böse Klassenclown, seit dem Abi auf Entzug
Der die tarnfarbenen Schatten boxt
Taumel durch den Pop-Porzellanladen, Maseltov
Zwischen Gangsterrappern, realen Rappern
Battle Rappern, deepen Rappern
Nicht zu vergessen, ihren Freunden und Backups
Steh' ich mit arroganter Haltung, Hand an der Ray Ban
Prinz Pi, mein Vorbild ist Patrick Bateman
Sie reden von Verschwörung, ich rede von Zerstörung
Ich weiß nur, mein Los ist die Lösung, ich bin das Wunderkind
[Hook]
Du bist ein Wunderkind
Auch wenn niemand außer dir und mir das sieht
Die Leute sind für Wunder blind
Du bist der Singular, du bist das Einzelstück
Du bist das Meisterwerk, das es nur einmal gibt
Du bist ein Wunderkind
Auch wenn niemand außer dir und mir das sieht
Die Leute sind für Wunder blind
Du bist einer aus einer Million
Es ist Gott seine Welt, doch es ist deine Version
[Part 3]
Man meint, es wäre einer dieser Kopf-hoch-Songs
Ich bin Deutschlands Doctor Octagon
Der irre Studentenrapper hinterlässt auf euch Hemden Ketchup
Wenn mich mein Kumpel mit sein' Händen backupped
Tanz der Moleküle, die Elektronen breaken
Ihr seid herzlos wie Diskos ohne Theken
Das ist die Bruderschaft, das ist die Pyramide
Du fühlst dich langsam schwach, das sind die Cyanide
Weil die subversiven Elemente überwiegen
Halte ich dagegen, zugegeben etwas übertrieben
Sie reden über Frieden und mein alles bleibt
Wie es immer war: Bilderberg, Piso-Bush, altes Reich
Allein gegen ein Land von Toys, das Land von euch
Ihr seid deutsch, ich nich', Berlin ist mein Vaterland
Und kein Abgeordneter ordnet nach unser'm Sinn
SPD, CDU, FDP versus das Wunderkind
[Hook]
Du bist ein Wunderkind
Auch wenn niemand außer dir und mir das sieht
Die Leute sind für Wunder blind
Du bist der Singular, du bist das Einzelstück
Du bist das Meisterwerk, das es nur einmal gibt
Du bist ein Wunderkind
Auch wenn niemand außer dir und mir das sieht
Die Leute sind für Wunder blind
Du bist einer aus einer Million
Es ist Gott seine Welt, doch es ist deine Version
RAW engish translation:
[Part 1]
You are a child prodigy, you are my proof of God
The counter-evidence is in Roswell on dry ice
By the way, I'm always elitist
I feel lost, as if my life were the series
Stand on the roof of the skyscraper, wind fills my 'trench coat
Scarf flutters, throat smells of Tokyo by Kenzo
Goose bumps crawl up my shirt, the air should be my way
Skywalker style, I'm running, at night
People are crawling out of drawers
They were looking for themselves
The reality contains more stereotypes than I can grasp
Behind all the masks, I see the face of naked fear
Class fight, bass and drums, I light the torch
With flickering light, I attract millions of rats
Until one of the triples takes action
BND, GSG, CIA versus the prodigy
[Hook]
You are a prodigy
Even if nobody but you and me sees this
People are blind to miracles
You are the singular, you are the unique piece
You are the masterpiece that only exists once
You are a prodigy
Even if nobody but you and me sees this
People are blind to miracles
You are one in a million
It's God his world, but it's your version
[Part 2]
I know your insult, I know your defense
I know all the standard curses and their extension
I know the wounds and the scars and the revenge plans
I'm not the Pied Piper, I'm your torchbearer
And I bring in a cold fire in this school building
Parents, educators ask, "What does that mean now?
I bring the smart rage, I bring the blue blood
I'm the bad class clown who's been deprived since graduation
The chestnut-colored shadows are boxing
Staggering through the pop-china shop, Maseltov
Between gangster rapers, real rappers
Battle rappers, deep rappers
Not to mention their friends and backups
I stand with arrogant attitude, hand on the Ray Ban
Prince Pi, my role model is Patrick Bateman
You talk about conspiracy, I talk about destruction
I just know, my lot is the solution, I am the child prodigy
[Hook]
You are a prodigy
Even if nobody but you and me sees this
People are blind to miracles
You are the singular, you are the unique piece
You are the masterpiece that only exists once
You are a prodigy
Even if nobody but you and me sees this
People are blind to miracles
You are one in a million
It's God his world, but it's your version
[Part 3]
You think it's one of those head-high songs
I am Germany's Doctor Octagon
The crazy student rapper leaves on you shirts ketchup
If my buddy backupped me with his hands
Dance of molecules that break electrons
You are heartless like discos without counters
That's the Brotherhood, that's the pyramid
You're starting to feel weak, these are the cyanides
Because the subversive elements predominate
I hold against it, admittedly a bit exaggerated
They talk about peace and my everything stays
As it always was: Bilderberg, Piso-Bush, old Reich
Alone against a country of Toys, the land of you
You are German, I am not, Berlin is my fatherland
And no deputy orders according to our sense
SPD, CDU, FDP versus the prodigy
[Hook]
You are a prodigy
Even if nobody but you and me sees this
People are blind to miracles
You are the singular, you are the unique piece
You are the masterpiece that only exists once
You are a prodigy
Even if nobody but you and me sees this
People are blind to miracles
You are one in a million
It's God his world, but it's your version
-------
http://lyricstranslate.com/en/wunderkind-wonder-child.html
Noop... but stil on topic
---
[Part 1]
Du bist ein Wunderkind, du bist mein Gottbeweis
Der Gegenbeweis liegt in Roswell auf Trockeneis
Das nur nebenbei, jederzeit bin ich elitär
Ich fühl mich Lost, wie wenn mein Leben die Serie wär
Steh' auf dem Dach vom Hochhaus, Wind füllt mein' Trenchcoat
Schal flattert, Hals riecht nach Tokyo by Kenzo
Gänsehaut kriecht mein Hemd hoch, die Luft soll mein Weg sein
Skywalker-Style, ich renn' los, in der Nacht
Kriechen die Menschen aus Schubladen
Die sie sich selber gesucht haben
Die Realität enthält mehr Klischees als ich fassen kann
Hinter all den Masken seh' ich die Fratze der nackten Angst
Klassenkampf, Bass und Drums, ich zünde die Fackel an
Mit flackerndem Licht zieh' ich Millionen von Ratten an
Bis einer von den Dreibuchstabigen was unternimmt
BND, GSG, CIA versus das Wunderkind
[Hook]
Du bist ein Wunderkind
Auch wenn niemand außer dir und mir das sieht
Die Leute sind für Wunder blind
Du bist der Singular, du bist das Einzelstück
Du bist das Meisterwerk, das es nur einmal gibt
Du bist ein Wunderkind
Auch wenn niemand außer dir und mir das sieht
Die Leute sind für Wunder blind
Du bist einer aus einer Million
Es ist Gott seine Welt, doch es ist deine Version
[Part 2]
Ich kenn' ihre Beleidigung', ich kenn' deine Verteidigung
Ich kenne all die Standardflüche und ihre Erweiterung
Ich kenn' die Wunden und die Narben und die Rachepläne
Ich bin nich' der Rattenfänger, ich bin euer Fackelträger
Und ich bring ein kaltes Feuer rein in dieses Schulgebäude
Eltern, Pädagogen fragen: "Was hat das jetzt zu bedeuten?
Ich bring' die schlaue Wut, ich bring' das blaue Blut
Ich bin der böse Klassenclown, seit dem Abi auf Entzug
Der die tarnfarbenen Schatten boxt
Taumel durch den Pop-Porzellanladen, Maseltov
Zwischen Gangsterrappern, realen Rappern
Battle Rappern, deepen Rappern
Nicht zu vergessen, ihren Freunden und Backups
Steh' ich mit arroganter Haltung, Hand an der Ray Ban
Prinz Pi, mein Vorbild ist Patrick Bateman
Sie reden von Verschwörung, ich rede von Zerstörung
Ich weiß nur, mein Los ist die Lösung, ich bin das Wunderkind
[Hook]
Du bist ein Wunderkind
Auch wenn niemand außer dir und mir das sieht
Die Leute sind für Wunder blind
Du bist der Singular, du bist das Einzelstück
Du bist das Meisterwerk, das es nur einmal gibt
Du bist ein Wunderkind
Auch wenn niemand außer dir und mir das sieht
Die Leute sind für Wunder blind
Du bist einer aus einer Million
Es ist Gott seine Welt, doch es ist deine Version
[Part 3]
Man meint, es wäre einer dieser Kopf-hoch-Songs
Ich bin Deutschlands Doctor Octagon
Der irre Studentenrapper hinterlässt auf euch Hemden Ketchup
Wenn mich mein Kumpel mit sein' Händen backupped
Tanz der Moleküle, die Elektronen breaken
Ihr seid herzlos wie Diskos ohne Theken
Das ist die Bruderschaft, das ist die Pyramide
Du fühlst dich langsam schwach, das sind die Cyanide
Weil die subversiven Elemente überwiegen
Halte ich dagegen, zugegeben etwas übertrieben
Sie reden über Frieden und mein alles bleibt
Wie es immer war: Bilderberg, Piso-Bush, altes Reich
Allein gegen ein Land von Toys, das Land von euch
Ihr seid deutsch, ich nich', Berlin ist mein Vaterland
Und kein Abgeordneter ordnet nach unser'm Sinn
SPD, CDU, FDP versus das Wunderkind
[Hook]
Du bist ein Wunderkind
Auch wenn niemand außer dir und mir das sieht
Die Leute sind für Wunder blind
Du bist der Singular, du bist das Einzelstück
Du bist das Meisterwerk, das es nur einmal gibt
Du bist ein Wunderkind
Auch wenn niemand außer dir und mir das sieht
Die Leute sind für Wunder blind
Du bist einer aus einer Million
Es ist Gott seine Welt, doch es ist deine Version
https://youtu.be/-wnBU_2tWLk
21 March 2018 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to Ikhsan Andriansyah's comment.
Tell me something about it before i delete?
21 March 2018 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Maybe
https://youtu.be/XqjWidsMhvM
https://youtu.be/XqjWidsMhvM
https://youtu.be/XqjWidsMhvM
21 March 2018 02:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/22/ancestrydna-versus-23andme/
https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/22/ancestrydna-versus-23andme/
21 March 2018 02:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Same time in communist france: "one year in prison and a €15,000 fine"
https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2151955-Paternity-tests-in-France-banned-more-or-less
Paternity tests in France banned (more or less)
'' Any paternity testing without a court order is banned, due to the official desire to "preserve the peace" within French families, with the French government citing psychologists who state that fatherhood is determined by coexistence rather than biology. French men often circumvent these laws by sending samples of DNA to foreign laboratories, but risk prosecution if caught. The maximum penalty for carrying out secret paternity testing is one year in prison and a €15,000 fine ''
What's your opinion on this? I think it's very disturbing and can't comprehend how it can happen in a 2014 EU country . I also don't see how it's a feminist issue like many are implying.
https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2151955-Paternity-tests-in-France-banned-more-or-less
Paternity tests in France banned (more or less)
'' Any paternity testing without a court order is banned, due to the official desire to "preserve the peace" within French families, with the French government citing psychologists who state that fatherhood is determined by coexistence rather than biology. French men often circumvent these laws by sending samples of DNA to foreign laboratories, but risk prosecution if caught. The maximum penalty for carrying out secret paternity testing is one year in prison and a €15,000 fine ''
What's your opinion on this? I think it's very disturbing and can't comprehend how it can happen in a 2014 EU country . I also don't see how it's a feminist issue like many are implying.
https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2151955-Paternity-tests-in-France-banned-more-or-less
21 March 2018 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Same time in KUWAIT:
https://www.sciencealert.com/kuwait-has-become-the-first-country-to-make-dna-testing-mandatory-for-all-residents
Kuwait Has Become The First Country to Make DNA Testing Mandatory For All Residents
Those who refuse risk prison time.
FIONA MACDONALD 13 JUL 2015
In a controversial move, Kuwait has passed a law making it mandatory for all its 1.3 million citizens and 2.9 million foreign residents to have their DNA entered onto a national database.
Anyone who refuses to submit their DNA for testing risks one year in prison and a fine of up to US$33,000, and those who provide a fake sample can be jailed for seven years.
The decision came after an Islamic State-led suicide bombing in Kuwait City on 26 June, which killed 26 people and wounded 227 more. The government hopes that the new database, which is projected to cost around US$400 million, will make it quicker and easier to make arrests in the future.
"We have approved the DNA testing law and approved the additional funding. We are prepared to approve anything needed to boost security measures in the country," independent MP Jamal al-Omar told AFP.
To fingerprint someone's DNA, scientists need to extract the genetic material from a small sample of their cells, and then map the unique combination of base pairs contained within - sort of like our own, super-long barcode. This allows police to compare DNA found at a crime scene with any DNA they have on file to look for a match.
However, the new law is sure to attract controversy from privacy and ethics advocates. Although many other countries around the world - including the US, UK, Sweden and Australia - all have databases that keep a record of the DNA of anyone who has been convicted of a crime, this is the first law that makes the database mandatory for all citizens.
In the European Union, such a database has been declared by illegal after the European Court of Human Rights ruled in 2008 that keeping a non-criminal's DNA sample "could not be regarded as necessary in a democratic society".
There are also concerns that this type of record could open up the possibility for governments to monitor their citizens' DNA - like in the 1997 sci-fi film Gattaca.
:::::::::
Have seen movie?
--------_
"If it's not regulated and the police can do whatever they want ... they can use your DNA to infer things about your health, your ancestry, whether your kids are your kids," genetic researcher Yaniv Erlich from MIT in the US told the Associated Press on the subject of DNA databases back in 2013.
Currently, the US has the world's largest DNA database, containing entries from people who have been arrested, but not convicted, of crimes, as well as the DNA of missing persons and their families, and the deceased.
The way things are going now, we're going to need a whole lot more storage space for all the DNA we're keep tabs on.
https://www.sciencealert.com/kuwait-has-become-the-first-country-to-make-dna-testing-mandatory-for-all-residents
Kuwait Has Become The First Country to Make DNA Testing Mandatory For All Residents
Those who refuse risk prison time.
FIONA MACDONALD 13 JUL 2015
In a controversial move, Kuwait has passed a law making it mandatory for all its 1.3 million citizens and 2.9 million foreign residents to have their DNA entered onto a national database.
Anyone who refuses to submit their DNA for testing risks one year in prison and a fine of up to US$33,000, and those who provide a fake sample can be jailed for seven years.
The decision came after an Islamic State-led suicide bombing in Kuwait City on 26 June, which killed 26 people and wounded 227 more. The government hopes that the new database, which is projected to cost around US$400 million, will make it quicker and easier to make arrests in the future.
"We have approved the DNA testing law and approved the additional funding. We are prepared to approve anything needed to boost security measures in the country," independent MP Jamal al-Omar told AFP.
To fingerprint someone's DNA, scientists need to extract the genetic material from a small sample of their cells, and then map the unique combination of base pairs contained within - sort of like our own, super-long barcode. This allows police to compare DNA found at a crime scene with any DNA they have on file to look for a match.
However, the new law is sure to attract controversy from privacy and ethics advocates. Although many other countries around the world - including the US, UK, Sweden and Australia - all have databases that keep a record of the DNA of anyone who has been convicted of a crime, this is the first law that makes the database mandatory for all citizens.
In the European Union, such a database has been declared by illegal after the European Court of Human Rights ruled in 2008 that keeping a non-criminal's DNA sample "could not be regarded as necessary in a democratic society".
There are also concerns that this type of record could open up the possibility for governments to monitor their citizens' DNA - like in the 1997 sci-fi film Gattaca.
:::::::::
Have seen movie?
--------_
"If it's not regulated and the police can do whatever they want ... they can use your DNA to infer things about your health, your ancestry, whether your kids are your kids," genetic researcher Yaniv Erlich from MIT in the US told the Associated Press on the subject of DNA databases back in 2013.
Currently, the US has the world's largest DNA database, containing entries from people who have been arrested, but not convicted, of crimes, as well as the DNA of missing persons and their families, and the deceased.
The way things are going now, we're going to need a whole lot more storage space for all the DNA we're keep tabs on.
https://www.sciencealert.com/kuwait-has-become-the-first-country-to-make-dna-testing-mandatory-for-all-residents
21 March 2018 02:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2017 Germany:
https://www.nature.com/news/forensics-germany-considers-wider-use-of-dna-evidence-in-criminal-cases-1.21713
Forensics: Germany considers wider use of DNA evidence in criminal cases
The country may lift its ban on the analysis of gene-coding regions in DNA samples.
Behind closed doors this week, the German federal justice ministry has been discussing whether to hand police a powerful new tool involving the analysis of DNA samples. The debate is a direct consequence of the rape and murder of a medical student in Freiburg last October.
Two months later the crime became a cause célèbre: the police arrested and charged a young refugee from Afghanistan — and public fears over the million or so refugees who have arrived in Germany in the past few years erupted. Among the political responses, Freiburg’s home state of Baden-Württemberg proposed new legislation to the federal parliament to extend the ways in which police can use genetic analysis.
https://www.nature.com/news/forensics-germany-considers-wider-use-of-dna-evidence-in-criminal-cases-1.21713
Forensics: Germany considers wider use of DNA evidence in criminal cases
The country may lift its ban on the analysis of gene-coding regions in DNA samples.
Behind closed doors this week, the German federal justice ministry has been discussing whether to hand police a powerful new tool involving the analysis of DNA samples. The debate is a direct consequence of the rape and murder of a medical student in Freiburg last October.
Two months later the crime became a cause célèbre: the police arrested and charged a young refugee from Afghanistan — and public fears over the million or so refugees who have arrived in Germany in the past few years erupted. Among the political responses, Freiburg’s home state of Baden-Württemberg proposed new legislation to the federal parliament to extend the ways in which police can use genetic analysis.
https://www.nature.com/news/forensics-germany-considers-wider-use-of-dna-evidence-in-criminal-cases-1.21713
21 March 2018 02:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Former members of the KBW
Jörg Baberowski
Reinhard Bütikofer
Ralf Fücks
Winfried Kretschmann
Winfried Nachtwei
Frieder Nake
Sven Regener
Ulla Schmidt
Christian Rehm ...
(1982 the KBW abandoned its objective of establishing the dictatorship of the proletariat and started to infiltrate The Greens (Die Grünen) )
// most in the list are openly in high positions and part of Greens.. similar name sounds yes..
Jörg Baberowski
Reinhard Bütikofer
Ralf Fücks
Winfried Kretschmann
Winfried Nachtwei
Frieder Nake
Sven Regener
Ulla Schmidt
Christian Rehm ...
(1982 the KBW abandoned its objective of establishing the dictatorship of the proletariat and started to infiltrate The Greens (Die Grünen) )
// most in the list are openly in high positions and part of Greens.. similar name sounds yes..
21 March 2018 02:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"organizational principle of the KBW was democratic centralism"
LET me quess... this "privacy consern" is from left ving social democrats right... // as in estonia..other places..//
Lets see:
"Paternity tests during pregnancy will be only legal in cases of sexual abuse or rape. The German Medical Association however has warned that this might lead to medical tourism, with people trying to get genetic testing done abroad."
So lets look:
"Ursula "Ulla" Schmidt (born June 13, 1949) is a German politician of the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD)
Oh suprice? No,
"The KBW subscribed to the ideas of Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong, whose writings were distributed through KBW bookshops (or later party offices). It sided with the politics of the Communist Party of China until 1980"
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Maybe the yso cure and have direct links to commies who afraid of alien and gene agenda that might come up... lets see:
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"Early beginnings
In 1976 Schmidt was a candidate of the Maoist "Kommunistischer Bund Westdeutschland" (KBW) (Communist League of West Germany) for the Federal Assembly of Germany (Bundestag) in Aachen. The KBW dissolved completely in 1985.
In 1983, Schmidt changed to the Social Democratic Party (SPD). There she is a member of the local (Aachen) leadership and of the "Seeheimer Kreis". She was elected to the German Bundestag in the first elections in reunified Germany on 2 December 1990, representing the Aachen I constituency.
...
// Okey, i do not make this up, it is freaking intence whit out fantazising some invizible agendas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulla_Schmidt
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"The Communist League of West Germany[1] (Kommunistischer Bund Westdeutschland; KBW) was a Maoist organization in West Germany which existed from 1973 until 1985. The KBW contested the general elections in 1976 and 1980 in West Germany and was rated as the strongest of the German Maoist parties from 1974 until 198"
"The KBW was formed at a conference held in Bremen in June 1973 as a fusion of various local communist groups from Heidelberg,[2] Bremen,[3] Göttingen,[4] Freiburg[5] etc. At its inaugural conference the KBW adopted a programme advocating the revolutionary overthrow of capitalism and the bourgeois state and the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat in order to achieve a classless society and communism.[6] In its programme the KBW demanded the arming of the people (”Allgemeine Volksbewaffnung“)."
The Zimbabwe African National Union (ZANU) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwe_African_National_Union was supported in its armed struggle by contributions from the KBW.[9] ZANU politicians Ndabaningi Sithole, Robert Mugabe and Edgar Tekere visited West Germany several times at invitation of the KBW.
( Most of ZANU's operations were planned from exile, where the party leadership was based throughout the 1970s, when the party had offices in Lusaka, Dar-es-Salaam, Maputo and London )
The organization split in the summer of 1980 when about a quarter of the membership formed the League of West German Communists (Bund Westdeutscher Kommunisten; BWK) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_West_German_Communists
, which continued to work on the basis of the KBW programme of 1973.
In 1982 the KBW abandoned its objective of establishing the dictatorship of the proletariat and started to infiltrate The Greens (Die Grünen) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greens_(Germany) .
--
The organizational principle of the KBW was democratic centralism. Since 1977 the organization was divided into three regional (Nord, Mitte, Süd) and 40 district units. It had in the beginning a 13-member (later expanded) Central Committee and a five-member Standing Committee (Ständiger Ausschuss).
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1/3
Contrary to most political parties, KBW had no major financial problems, with KVZ and other publications giving the party a healthy income. Another important factor was financial contributions from party members. There were no set party dues as such, rather, in each cell it was specified, what the individual member had to pay. Members in employment generally contributed one-third of their income.
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Gesellschaft zur Unterstützung der Volkskämpfe, (GUV), (Society for Support of People's Struggles) for intellectuals
Komitees und Initiativen gegen den § 218 (Committees against the [German abortion law] § 218)
Kommunistische Hochschulgruppe (KHG), Kommunistischer Studentenbund (KSB) for university students
Kommunistischer Jugendbund (KJB), the 1976 merger of Kommunistische Schülergruppe (KSG), Kommunistischer Oberschülerbund (KOB) and Kommunistischer Arbeiterjugendbund (KAJB), for young people
Soldaten- und Reservisten Komitees (SRK), (Soldiers' and Reservists' Committees) for the antimilitaristic struggle
Vereinigung für revolutionäre Volksbildung - Soldaten und Reservisten (Association of revolutionary People's education - Soldiers and Reservists) was the 1979 merger of GUV, § 218 Komitees and SRK following the substantial membership losses in the auxiliary organizations of the KBW
LET me quess... this "privacy consern" is from left ving social democrats right... // as in estonia..other places..//
Lets see:
"Paternity tests during pregnancy will be only legal in cases of sexual abuse or rape. The German Medical Association however has warned that this might lead to medical tourism, with people trying to get genetic testing done abroad."
So lets look:
"Ursula "Ulla" Schmidt (born June 13, 1949) is a German politician of the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD)
Oh suprice? No,
"The KBW subscribed to the ideas of Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong, whose writings were distributed through KBW bookshops (or later party offices). It sided with the politics of the Communist Party of China until 1980"
------
Maybe the yso cure and have direct links to commies who afraid of alien and gene agenda that might come up... lets see:
--
"Early beginnings
In 1976 Schmidt was a candidate of the Maoist "Kommunistischer Bund Westdeutschland" (KBW) (Communist League of West Germany) for the Federal Assembly of Germany (Bundestag) in Aachen. The KBW dissolved completely in 1985.
In 1983, Schmidt changed to the Social Democratic Party (SPD). There she is a member of the local (Aachen) leadership and of the "Seeheimer Kreis". She was elected to the German Bundestag in the first elections in reunified Germany on 2 December 1990, representing the Aachen I constituency.
...
// Okey, i do not make this up, it is freaking intence whit out fantazising some invizible agendas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulla_Schmidt
---
"The Communist League of West Germany[1] (Kommunistischer Bund Westdeutschland; KBW) was a Maoist organization in West Germany which existed from 1973 until 1985. The KBW contested the general elections in 1976 and 1980 in West Germany and was rated as the strongest of the German Maoist parties from 1974 until 198"
"The KBW was formed at a conference held in Bremen in June 1973 as a fusion of various local communist groups from Heidelberg,[2] Bremen,[3] Göttingen,[4] Freiburg[5] etc. At its inaugural conference the KBW adopted a programme advocating the revolutionary overthrow of capitalism and the bourgeois state and the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat in order to achieve a classless society and communism.[6] In its programme the KBW demanded the arming of the people (”Allgemeine Volksbewaffnung“)."
The Zimbabwe African National Union (ZANU) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwe_African_National_Union was supported in its armed struggle by contributions from the KBW.[9] ZANU politicians Ndabaningi Sithole, Robert Mugabe and Edgar Tekere visited West Germany several times at invitation of the KBW.
( Most of ZANU's operations were planned from exile, where the party leadership was based throughout the 1970s, when the party had offices in Lusaka, Dar-es-Salaam, Maputo and London )
The organization split in the summer of 1980 when about a quarter of the membership formed the League of West German Communists (Bund Westdeutscher Kommunisten; BWK) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_West_German_Communists
, which continued to work on the basis of the KBW programme of 1973.
In 1982 the KBW abandoned its objective of establishing the dictatorship of the proletariat and started to infiltrate The Greens (Die Grünen) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greens_(Germany) .
--
The organizational principle of the KBW was democratic centralism. Since 1977 the organization was divided into three regional (Nord, Mitte, Süd) and 40 district units. It had in the beginning a 13-member (later expanded) Central Committee and a five-member Standing Committee (Ständiger Ausschuss).
---
1/3
Contrary to most political parties, KBW had no major financial problems, with KVZ and other publications giving the party a healthy income. Another important factor was financial contributions from party members. There were no set party dues as such, rather, in each cell it was specified, what the individual member had to pay. Members in employment generally contributed one-third of their income.
--
----
Gesellschaft zur Unterstützung der Volkskämpfe, (GUV), (Society for Support of People's Struggles) for intellectuals
Komitees und Initiativen gegen den § 218 (Committees against the [German abortion law] § 218)
Kommunistische Hochschulgruppe (KHG), Kommunistischer Studentenbund (KSB) for university students
Kommunistischer Jugendbund (KJB), the 1976 merger of Kommunistische Schülergruppe (KSG), Kommunistischer Oberschülerbund (KOB) and Kommunistischer Arbeiterjugendbund (KAJB), for young people
Soldaten- und Reservisten Komitees (SRK), (Soldiers' and Reservists' Committees) for the antimilitaristic struggle
Vereinigung für revolutionäre Volksbildung - Soldaten und Reservisten (Association of revolutionary People's education - Soldiers and Reservists) was the 1979 merger of GUV, § 218 Komitees and SRK following the substantial membership losses in the auxiliary organizations of the KBW
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulla_Schmidt
21 March 2018 02:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2009 Germany: "fine of up to 5,000 euros."
http://www.dw.com/en/new-german-law-restricts-genetic-testing/a-4201588
New German law restricts genetic testing
The German Parliament has passed legislation to limit the genetic testing of humans. It bans secret paternity tests and severely restricts the use of genetic testing by employers and insurance companies.
three red cells on a slide seen through a microscope
Genetic testing will now be the exception rather than the rule
Health Minister Ulla Schmidt welcomed the new law as a crucial step in protecting the rights of patients. She said that after 10 years of discussions a legal framework had been put in place that would prevent the abuse of sensitive personal data.
Germany's Health Minister Ulla Schmidt
Health Minister Schmidt says the law is crucial to protect patients
Genetic testing can be used to determine a person's disposition to develop certain illnesses such as cancer - information which in the hands of an employer or a health insurance company could easily lead to discrimination.
The new legislation defines under which circumstances an analysis of genetic material is legal. Now, testing can only be conducted with the patient's consent and after consultation with a doctor.
Medical tourism to find out who's the father?
Under the new law, paternity tests, for example, will be only legal if both the woman and man agree. Conducting a secret test can result in a fine of up to 5,000 euros.
http://www.dw.com/en/new-german-law-restricts-genetic-testing/a-4201588
New German law restricts genetic testing
The German Parliament has passed legislation to limit the genetic testing of humans. It bans secret paternity tests and severely restricts the use of genetic testing by employers and insurance companies.
three red cells on a slide seen through a microscope
Genetic testing will now be the exception rather than the rule
Health Minister Ulla Schmidt welcomed the new law as a crucial step in protecting the rights of patients. She said that after 10 years of discussions a legal framework had been put in place that would prevent the abuse of sensitive personal data.
Germany's Health Minister Ulla Schmidt
Health Minister Schmidt says the law is crucial to protect patients
Genetic testing can be used to determine a person's disposition to develop certain illnesses such as cancer - information which in the hands of an employer or a health insurance company could easily lead to discrimination.
The new legislation defines under which circumstances an analysis of genetic material is legal. Now, testing can only be conducted with the patient's consent and after consultation with a doctor.
Medical tourism to find out who's the father?
Under the new law, paternity tests, for example, will be only legal if both the woman and man agree. Conducting a secret test can result in a fine of up to 5,000 euros.
http://www.dw.com/en/new-german-law-restricts-genetic-testing/a-4201588
21 March 2018 02:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
21 March 2018 01:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// mina ei pannud seda pilti sinna juurde.. Sa punane BBC...
""The public agency charged with protecting public health has finally lost patience with a private company that seems to think it doesn't have to play by the rules," she added.
It is not the first time the company has hit the headlines. A "build-a-baby" patent, which offered to show perspective parents what traits a future baby may have, was criticised by the Genetics and Society organisation.
The company described the system as an enjoyable way for parents to "dip their toes into genetics".
There are an increasing number of companies offering low-cost home genetic testing - but some medical experts have raised questions about the accuracy of the tests, and asked what benefit they offer to consumers.
""The public agency charged with protecting public health has finally lost patience with a private company that seems to think it doesn't have to play by the rules," she added.
It is not the first time the company has hit the headlines. A "build-a-baby" patent, which offered to show perspective parents what traits a future baby may have, was criticised by the Genetics and Society organisation.
The company described the system as an enjoyable way for parents to "dip their toes into genetics".
There are an increasing number of companies offering low-cost home genetic testing - but some medical experts have raised questions about the accuracy of the tests, and asked what benefit they offer to consumers.
21 March 2018 01:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
same time in Free Land, "non communist" land:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-25100878
The US Food and Drug Administration has imposed a ban on a company offering personal genetic screening to the general public.
Google-backed 23andme has been ordered to "immediately discontinue" selling its saliva-collection tests after failing to provide information to back its marketing claims.
The tests aims to show how personal genetic codes may affect future health.
The company said it would address concerns.
The start-up has been operating since 2006 and was co-founded by Anne Wojcicki, the wife of Google co-founder Sergey Brin.
For $99 (£61), users receive a kit allowing them to take sample of saliva. This is sent to the company and in return users receive a readout of their genetic code.
The website promises reports on 254 health conditions and traits as well as offering to help people trace their genealogy.
Under FDA rules, the company must provide proof about how accurate its detection methods are as well as supplying the error rates from its personal genome service (PGS).
In a public letter the FDA said that 23andme had not supplied this information, despite increasing its marketing campaign and the scope of its tests.
"FDA is concerned about the public health consequences of inaccurate results from the PGS device - the main purpose of compliance with FDA's regulatory requirements is to ensure that the tests work," said Alberto Gutierrez, director of the FDA's centre for devices and radiological health, in a letter to the company.
"Patients relying on such tests may begin to self-manage their treatment through dose changes or even abandon certain therapies depending on the outcome of the assessment," he added.
Build-a-baby
Despite hundreds of emails and 14 face-to-face meetings with 23andme, little evidence had been provided, the agency added.
The company said: "We recognise that we have not met the FDA's expectations regarding timeline and communication regarding our submission.
"Our relationship with the FDA is extremely important to us and we are committed to fully engaging with them to address their concerns."
The Center for Genetics and Society said it welcomed the FDA's stance.
"Our society regulates medical products to protect public health. Without strong public oversight, we're back to the era of snake oil," said executive director Marcy Darnovsky.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-25100878
The US Food and Drug Administration has imposed a ban on a company offering personal genetic screening to the general public.
Google-backed 23andme has been ordered to "immediately discontinue" selling its saliva-collection tests after failing to provide information to back its marketing claims.
The tests aims to show how personal genetic codes may affect future health.
The company said it would address concerns.
The start-up has been operating since 2006 and was co-founded by Anne Wojcicki, the wife of Google co-founder Sergey Brin.
For $99 (£61), users receive a kit allowing them to take sample of saliva. This is sent to the company and in return users receive a readout of their genetic code.
The website promises reports on 254 health conditions and traits as well as offering to help people trace their genealogy.
Under FDA rules, the company must provide proof about how accurate its detection methods are as well as supplying the error rates from its personal genome service (PGS).
In a public letter the FDA said that 23andme had not supplied this information, despite increasing its marketing campaign and the scope of its tests.
"FDA is concerned about the public health consequences of inaccurate results from the PGS device - the main purpose of compliance with FDA's regulatory requirements is to ensure that the tests work," said Alberto Gutierrez, director of the FDA's centre for devices and radiological health, in a letter to the company.
"Patients relying on such tests may begin to self-manage their treatment through dose changes or even abandon certain therapies depending on the outcome of the assessment," he added.
Build-a-baby
Despite hundreds of emails and 14 face-to-face meetings with 23andme, little evidence had been provided, the agency added.
The company said: "We recognise that we have not met the FDA's expectations regarding timeline and communication regarding our submission.
"Our relationship with the FDA is extremely important to us and we are committed to fully engaging with them to address their concerns."
The Center for Genetics and Society said it welcomed the FDA's stance.
"Our society regulates medical products to protect public health. Without strong public oversight, we're back to the era of snake oil," said executive director Marcy Darnovsky.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-25100878
21 March 2018 01:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tsekake org. nimesi lopus//
published online 2012 Jan 25. doi: 10.1038/ejhg.2011.278
PMCID: PMC3376265
Legislation on direct-to-consumer genetic testing in seven European countries
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An increasing number of private companies are now offering direct-to-consumer (DTC) genetic testing services. Although a lot of attention has been devoted to the regulatory framework of DTC genetic testing services in the USA, only limited information about the regulatory framework in Europe is available. We will report on the situation with regard to the national legislation on DTC genetic testing in seven European countries (Belgium, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Portugal, France, Germany, the United Kingdom). The paper will address whether these countries have legislation that specifically address the issue of DTC genetic testing or have relevant laws that is pertinent to the regulatory control of these services in their countries. The findings show that France, Germany, Portugal and Switzerland have specific legislation that defines that genetic tests can only be carried out by a medical doctor after the provision of sufficient information concerning the nature, meaning and consequences of the genetic test and after the consent of the person concerned. In the Netherlands, some DTC genetic tests could fall under legislation that provides the Minister the right to refuse to provide a license to operate if a test is scientifically unsound, not in accordance with the professional medical practice standards or if the expected benefit is not in balance with the (potential) health risks. Belgium and the United Kingdom allow the provision of DTC genetic tests.
Keywords: direct-to-consumer, legal, genetic testing
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Introduction
A wide variety of genetic tests are currently being offered directly-to-consumers by private companies that are located within the USA, Europe and elsewhere. The type of tests being offered to the public are diagnostic tests, (preconceptional) carrier tests, tests indicating a predisposition to common disorders, tests profiling a risk to addiction, nutrigenomic tests, pharmacogenomic tests and ancestry tests. According to the companies selling these tests, individuals have a fundamental right to access information about themselves, including genetic information.1 Companies market their tests to consumers on the basis that they will be able to use the test results in their daily life, particularly in monitoring or improving their health conditions.2 Moreover, companies maintain that ordering a genetic test outside the traditional healthcare system will result in a better guarantee of privacy, at least with respect to insurance companies and employers. Autonomy, empowerment, prevention, convenience and privacy are usually the keywords in the marketing of these direct-to-consumer (DTC) genetic tests.3
There have also been a number of criticisms made about the services that these companies provide to consumers. Although a few companies are currently involving physicians in the provision of their services,4 the majority of companies operate without the involvement of a healthcare professional. Indeed, in some cases, a health-care professional may have been hired by the company to ‘formally' sign off on orders to circumvent legal issues;5, 6 most companies do not require consumers to ever interact directly with a health-care professional in order to obtain a genetic test. This is contrary to the way that genetic tests have been provided within most healthcare frameworks. The DTC provision model of genetic tests has been criticized for its absence of individualized medical supervision,7 the absence and/or dubious quality of pre- and post-test information provision and genetic counselling,8 and the inappropriate genetic testing of minors.9, 10 This adds to the concerns regarding the limited predictive value, clinical validity and utility of various DTC genetic tests presently on offer.11, 12, 13 Further concerns include the way that DTC genetic testing companies carry out research,9, 14 the (lack of) respect for privacy and the potential burden on public health-care resources.15
In light of these concerns, various professional organizations and governmental agencies have published statements to inform, educate and/or warn consumers about DTC genetic testing.16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 Along these lines, the European Society of Human Genetics' statement set a bench mark that included recommendations to ensure the quality of the testing services, the provision of pre-test information and genetic counselling, and individualized medical supervision.22 Furthermore, most statements have urged for closer regulatory oversight of this market. Recently, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has decided to investigate more closely the market activities of DTC genetic testing companies; this may impact on the future regulatory oversight of the DTC genetic testing market both in the US and elsewhere.23, 24
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Methods
Experts in Health Law (all co-authors of this paper) from seven European countries (Belgium, Germany, France, the Netherlands, Portugal, Switzerland and the United Kingdom) were contacted by PB and HCH to describe the regulatory frameworks that apply to DTC genetic testing activities in their countries. In answering this question, they were asked first, whether their country had legislation that specifically addressed the issue of DTC genetic testing, and second, whether there was legislation that regulated genetic testing services in general. These countries were selected on the basis of the willingness of experts to participate and on the basis of previous involvement in debates on this subject. The United Kingdom has been the most active European country in this area. Since 1997, the Advisory Committee on Genetic Testing36 and subsequently the Human Genetics Commission (HGC) has published various documents specifically addressing the issue of DTC genetic testing.18, 37, 38 In Belgium, the National Advisory Committee on Bioethics prepared a document on this issue in 200439 and the Superior Health Council is at this moment debating whether more regulatory control for DTC genetic testing is necessary. In France and Portugal, the National Consultative Ethics Committee for Health and Life Sciences40 and the National Council for Ethics in the Life Sciences, respectively, issued statements on the direct marketing of genetic tests in 2008.41 In the Netherlands, the Health Council42 and the Council for Public Health and Health Care43 both published a report on self-testing, discussing DTC genetic testing as well. In Switzerland, the Swiss Society of Medical Genetics had published a statement on DTC genetic testing.44 In Germany, DTC genetic testing has been discussed in relation to new legislation45 and in a report elaborated by German National Academy of Sciences.46 This demonstrates that this is a key issue across Europe, and there has been considerable debate around the best way to regulate this area.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3376265/
published online 2012 Jan 25. doi: 10.1038/ejhg.2011.278
PMCID: PMC3376265
Legislation on direct-to-consumer genetic testing in seven European countries
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An increasing number of private companies are now offering direct-to-consumer (DTC) genetic testing services. Although a lot of attention has been devoted to the regulatory framework of DTC genetic testing services in the USA, only limited information about the regulatory framework in Europe is available. We will report on the situation with regard to the national legislation on DTC genetic testing in seven European countries (Belgium, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Portugal, France, Germany, the United Kingdom). The paper will address whether these countries have legislation that specifically address the issue of DTC genetic testing or have relevant laws that is pertinent to the regulatory control of these services in their countries. The findings show that France, Germany, Portugal and Switzerland have specific legislation that defines that genetic tests can only be carried out by a medical doctor after the provision of sufficient information concerning the nature, meaning and consequences of the genetic test and after the consent of the person concerned. In the Netherlands, some DTC genetic tests could fall under legislation that provides the Minister the right to refuse to provide a license to operate if a test is scientifically unsound, not in accordance with the professional medical practice standards or if the expected benefit is not in balance with the (potential) health risks. Belgium and the United Kingdom allow the provision of DTC genetic tests.
Keywords: direct-to-consumer, legal, genetic testing
Go to:
Introduction
A wide variety of genetic tests are currently being offered directly-to-consumers by private companies that are located within the USA, Europe and elsewhere. The type of tests being offered to the public are diagnostic tests, (preconceptional) carrier tests, tests indicating a predisposition to common disorders, tests profiling a risk to addiction, nutrigenomic tests, pharmacogenomic tests and ancestry tests. According to the companies selling these tests, individuals have a fundamental right to access information about themselves, including genetic information.1 Companies market their tests to consumers on the basis that they will be able to use the test results in their daily life, particularly in monitoring or improving their health conditions.2 Moreover, companies maintain that ordering a genetic test outside the traditional healthcare system will result in a better guarantee of privacy, at least with respect to insurance companies and employers. Autonomy, empowerment, prevention, convenience and privacy are usually the keywords in the marketing of these direct-to-consumer (DTC) genetic tests.3
There have also been a number of criticisms made about the services that these companies provide to consumers. Although a few companies are currently involving physicians in the provision of their services,4 the majority of companies operate without the involvement of a healthcare professional. Indeed, in some cases, a health-care professional may have been hired by the company to ‘formally' sign off on orders to circumvent legal issues;5, 6 most companies do not require consumers to ever interact directly with a health-care professional in order to obtain a genetic test. This is contrary to the way that genetic tests have been provided within most healthcare frameworks. The DTC provision model of genetic tests has been criticized for its absence of individualized medical supervision,7 the absence and/or dubious quality of pre- and post-test information provision and genetic counselling,8 and the inappropriate genetic testing of minors.9, 10 This adds to the concerns regarding the limited predictive value, clinical validity and utility of various DTC genetic tests presently on offer.11, 12, 13 Further concerns include the way that DTC genetic testing companies carry out research,9, 14 the (lack of) respect for privacy and the potential burden on public health-care resources.15
In light of these concerns, various professional organizations and governmental agencies have published statements to inform, educate and/or warn consumers about DTC genetic testing.16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 Along these lines, the European Society of Human Genetics' statement set a bench mark that included recommendations to ensure the quality of the testing services, the provision of pre-test information and genetic counselling, and individualized medical supervision.22 Furthermore, most statements have urged for closer regulatory oversight of this market. Recently, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has decided to investigate more closely the market activities of DTC genetic testing companies; this may impact on the future regulatory oversight of the DTC genetic testing market both in the US and elsewhere.23, 24
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Experts in Health Law (all co-authors of this paper) from seven European countries (Belgium, Germany, France, the Netherlands, Portugal, Switzerland and the United Kingdom) were contacted by PB and HCH to describe the regulatory frameworks that apply to DTC genetic testing activities in their countries. In answering this question, they were asked first, whether their country had legislation that specifically addressed the issue of DTC genetic testing, and second, whether there was legislation that regulated genetic testing services in general. These countries were selected on the basis of the willingness of experts to participate and on the basis of previous involvement in debates on this subject. The United Kingdom has been the most active European country in this area. Since 1997, the Advisory Committee on Genetic Testing36 and subsequently the Human Genetics Commission (HGC) has published various documents specifically addressing the issue of DTC genetic testing.18, 37, 38 In Belgium, the National Advisory Committee on Bioethics prepared a document on this issue in 200439 and the Superior Health Council is at this moment debating whether more regulatory control for DTC genetic testing is necessary. In France and Portugal, the National Consultative Ethics Committee for Health and Life Sciences40 and the National Council for Ethics in the Life Sciences, respectively, issued statements on the direct marketing of genetic tests in 2008.41 In the Netherlands, the Health Council42 and the Council for Public Health and Health Care43 both published a report on self-testing, discussing DTC genetic testing as well. In Switzerland, the Swiss Society of Medical Genetics had published a statement on DTC genetic testing.44 In Germany, DTC genetic testing has been discussed in relation to new legislation45 and in a report elaborated by German National Academy of Sciences.46 This demonstrates that this is a key issue across Europe, and there has been considerable debate around the best way to regulate this area.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3376265/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3376265/
21 March 2018 01:52
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"But Panofsky, who doesn’t support or sympathize with white nationalists, believes these negotiations are not a reason to “dismiss white nationalists as ignorant and stupid.”
“I think that is actually a dangerous view,” Panofsky said. “Our study reveals that these white nationalists are often engaging with genetic information in extraordinarily sophisticated ways.”
Many white supremacists are dealing with toxic shame, a perpetual subconscious belief system where their sense of identity is negative.
White supremacists are trying to deal with the issue of identity as an intellectual problem, said Tony McAleer, the co-founder and board chair of Life After Hate, a counseling organization that rehabs white supremacists. But he said the rehab of white nationalist views doesn’t start with challenging their mental gymnastics with data.
“We need to deal with the emotional drivers first,” McAleer said. “University of Maryland did a study of violent extremists and what they found was the number one correlated factor with someone joining a violent extremist group was childhood trauma.”
But McAleer continued that the emotional trauma fueling white supremacy extends past physical and sexual abuse. Many white supremacists are dealing with toxic shame, a perpetual subconscious belief system where their sense of identity is negative.
“The person feels at a subconscious level they’re not good enough,” McAleer said. “One way to react to that is to perpetually spend all of your efforts to prove to the world that you are a winner.”
So, Life After Hate’s antidote to this shame is “compassion and empathy,” he said. Rather than toss statistics about how Muslims aren’t flooding the country and do not lead to spikes in crime, they will take a white supremacist to an Islamic center and have them sit down and spend time there.
“A personal connection is a much more powerful way to change the dynamics within a person, than it is to re-educate the dataset that’s in their head,” McAleer said.
// What about Yellow and Black supremisists... and ... another species from who's DNA other species are made here, as clones, society members.. what about them.. how they show up in tests.. jsut as same as ordinary or will they have markers as original gene material owners.... time will show... may, for some. (maybe xd ?)
“I think that is actually a dangerous view,” Panofsky said. “Our study reveals that these white nationalists are often engaging with genetic information in extraordinarily sophisticated ways.”
Many white supremacists are dealing with toxic shame, a perpetual subconscious belief system where their sense of identity is negative.
White supremacists are trying to deal with the issue of identity as an intellectual problem, said Tony McAleer, the co-founder and board chair of Life After Hate, a counseling organization that rehabs white supremacists. But he said the rehab of white nationalist views doesn’t start with challenging their mental gymnastics with data.
“We need to deal with the emotional drivers first,” McAleer said. “University of Maryland did a study of violent extremists and what they found was the number one correlated factor with someone joining a violent extremist group was childhood trauma.”
But McAleer continued that the emotional trauma fueling white supremacy extends past physical and sexual abuse. Many white supremacists are dealing with toxic shame, a perpetual subconscious belief system where their sense of identity is negative.
“The person feels at a subconscious level they’re not good enough,” McAleer said. “One way to react to that is to perpetually spend all of your efforts to prove to the world that you are a winner.”
So, Life After Hate’s antidote to this shame is “compassion and empathy,” he said. Rather than toss statistics about how Muslims aren’t flooding the country and do not lead to spikes in crime, they will take a white supremacist to an Islamic center and have them sit down and spend time there.
“A personal connection is a much more powerful way to change the dynamics within a person, than it is to re-educate the dataset that’s in their head,” McAleer said.
// What about Yellow and Black supremisists... and ... another species from who's DNA other species are made here, as clones, society members.. what about them.. how they show up in tests.. jsut as same as ordinary or will they have markers as original gene material owners.... time will show... may, for some. (maybe xd ?)
21 March 2018 01:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
article by By — Nsikan Akpan, science writer
Proper Good article:
Do they not get, in whole, in the end, it is more about mindset and spirit,
we can grow and make all kind of dumb ones from any color eventually, look in to actions and dreams!
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/white-supremacists-respond-genetics-say-theyre-not-white
A new study from UCLA found when genetic ancestry tests like 23andMe spot mixed ancestry among white supremacists, most respond in three ways to discount the results and keep members with “impure” genealogy in their clan. Their reactions range from challenging the basic math behind the tests to accusing Jewish conspirators of sabotage.
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Making money off the hunt for white ancestry
If it seems white supremacists are making arbitrary decisions about their ancestry tests, it’s hard to blame them. Direct-to-consumer ancestry testing is a slippery, secretive industry, built largely upon arbitrary scientific definitions.
“It’s black box because it’s corporate,“ said Jonathan Marks, biological anthropologist at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. “The way these answers are generated depends strongly on the sampling, the laboratory work that you do and the algorithm that you use to analyze the information. All of this stuff is intellectual property. We can’t really evaluate it.”
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Some argued their family history was all the proof they needed. Or they looked in the mirror and clung to the notion that race and ethnicity are directly visible, which is false.
But the real takeaway centers on a new, nuanced pattern within white supremacist groups to redefine and solidify their ranks through genetic ancestry testing, said Aaron Panofsky, a UCLA sociologist who co-led the study presented Monday at the American Sociological Association’s 112th annual meeting in Montreal.
“Once they start to see that a lot of members of their community are not going to fit the ‘all-white’ criteria, they start to say, “Well, do we have to think about what percentage [of white European genealogy] could define membership?” said Aaron Panofsky, a UCLA sociologist who co-led the study presented Monday at the American Sociological Association’s 112th annual meeting in Montreal.
And this co-opting of science raises an important reminder: The best way to counter white supremacists may not be to fight their alternative facts with logical ones, according to people who rehabilitate far-right extremists.
How genetics warps the rules of white nationalism
To catalog white supremacists’ reactions to genetic ancestry results, this study logged onto the website Stormfront. Launched in 1995, Stormfront was an original forum of white supremacy views on the internet. The website resembles a Reddit-style social network, filled with chat forums and users posting under anonymous nicknames. By housing “nearly one million archived threads and over twelve million posts by 325,000 or more members,” Stormfront serves as a living history of the white nationalist movement.
Over the course of two years, Panofsky and fellow UCLA sociologist Joan Donovan combed through this online community and found 153 posts where users volunteered the results of genetic ancestry tests. They then read through the subsequent discussion threads — 2,341 posts wherein the community faced their collective identities.
No surprise, but white supremacists celebrate the test results that suggest full European ancestry. One example:
67% British isles
18% Balkan
15% Scandinavian…
100% white! HURRAY!
--
“Genetically, the idea of white European as a single homogenous group does not hold up.”
Though the genetics of “whiteness” are not completely understood, the gene variants known to influence skin color are more diluted across the globe than any random spot in the human genome. “That is to say, humans appear, based on our skin pigmentation, to be much more different from each other than we actually are on a genomic level,” Novembre said.
Others accused the ancestry companies of being run and manipulated by Jews, in an attempt to thwart white nationalism, but even other Stormfront users pointed out the inaccuracy of this idea.
Reinterpret: The biggest proportion of responses — 1,260 posts — tried to rationalize the result by offering an “educational or scientific explanation” for the genetic ancestry results. Many in the online community played a numbers game. If a genetic ancestry test stated someone was 95 percent white European, they would merely count the remaining 5 percent as a statistical error.
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23andMe, for instance, uses reference dataset that “include genomes from 10,418 people who were carefully chosen to reflect populations that existed before transcontinental travel and migration were common (at least 500 years ago).” To build these geographic groups, they select individuals who say all four of their grandparents were born in the same country, and then remove “outliers” whose DNA markers do not match well within the group.
These choices willfully bias the genetic definitions for both geography and time. They claim that a relatively small group of modern people can reveal the past makeup of Europe, Africa and Asia and the ancestral histories for millions of customers. But their reference groups skew toward the present and overpromise on the details of where people came from.
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// So why they keep banning from all the comapny the this one ?
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While 23andMe denounces the use of their services to justify hateful ideologies, they do not actively ban known white supremacists from their DNA testing.
“A study by 23andMe reported that with their definition of European ancestry, there is an average of 98.6 percent European ancestry among self-reported European-Americans. But given all I’ve said, we should digest this with caution,” Novembre said. “An individual with 100 percent European ancestry tests is simply someone who looks very much like the European reference samples being used.”
Though ancestry companies cite research that claims genetic tests can pinpoint someone within 100 miles of their European ancestral home, that’s not always the case. Marks offered the recent example of three blond triplets who took an ancestry test for the TV show The Doctors. The test said the triplets were 99 percent European. But one sister had more English and Irish ancestry, while another had more French and German. Did we mention they are identical triplets?
Proper Good article:
Do they not get, in whole, in the end, it is more about mindset and spirit,
we can grow and make all kind of dumb ones from any color eventually, look in to actions and dreams!
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/white-supremacists-respond-genetics-say-theyre-not-white
A new study from UCLA found when genetic ancestry tests like 23andMe spot mixed ancestry among white supremacists, most respond in three ways to discount the results and keep members with “impure” genealogy in their clan. Their reactions range from challenging the basic math behind the tests to accusing Jewish conspirators of sabotage.
--
Making money off the hunt for white ancestry
If it seems white supremacists are making arbitrary decisions about their ancestry tests, it’s hard to blame them. Direct-to-consumer ancestry testing is a slippery, secretive industry, built largely upon arbitrary scientific definitions.
“It’s black box because it’s corporate,“ said Jonathan Marks, biological anthropologist at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. “The way these answers are generated depends strongly on the sampling, the laboratory work that you do and the algorithm that you use to analyze the information. All of this stuff is intellectual property. We can’t really evaluate it.”
---
Some argued their family history was all the proof they needed. Or they looked in the mirror and clung to the notion that race and ethnicity are directly visible, which is false.
But the real takeaway centers on a new, nuanced pattern within white supremacist groups to redefine and solidify their ranks through genetic ancestry testing, said Aaron Panofsky, a UCLA sociologist who co-led the study presented Monday at the American Sociological Association’s 112th annual meeting in Montreal.
“Once they start to see that a lot of members of their community are not going to fit the ‘all-white’ criteria, they start to say, “Well, do we have to think about what percentage [of white European genealogy] could define membership?” said Aaron Panofsky, a UCLA sociologist who co-led the study presented Monday at the American Sociological Association’s 112th annual meeting in Montreal.
And this co-opting of science raises an important reminder: The best way to counter white supremacists may not be to fight their alternative facts with logical ones, according to people who rehabilitate far-right extremists.
How genetics warps the rules of white nationalism
To catalog white supremacists’ reactions to genetic ancestry results, this study logged onto the website Stormfront. Launched in 1995, Stormfront was an original forum of white supremacy views on the internet. The website resembles a Reddit-style social network, filled with chat forums and users posting under anonymous nicknames. By housing “nearly one million archived threads and over twelve million posts by 325,000 or more members,” Stormfront serves as a living history of the white nationalist movement.
Over the course of two years, Panofsky and fellow UCLA sociologist Joan Donovan combed through this online community and found 153 posts where users volunteered the results of genetic ancestry tests. They then read through the subsequent discussion threads — 2,341 posts wherein the community faced their collective identities.
No surprise, but white supremacists celebrate the test results that suggest full European ancestry. One example:
67% British isles
18% Balkan
15% Scandinavian…
100% white! HURRAY!
--
“Genetically, the idea of white European as a single homogenous group does not hold up.”
Though the genetics of “whiteness” are not completely understood, the gene variants known to influence skin color are more diluted across the globe than any random spot in the human genome. “That is to say, humans appear, based on our skin pigmentation, to be much more different from each other than we actually are on a genomic level,” Novembre said.
Others accused the ancestry companies of being run and manipulated by Jews, in an attempt to thwart white nationalism, but even other Stormfront users pointed out the inaccuracy of this idea.
Reinterpret: The biggest proportion of responses — 1,260 posts — tried to rationalize the result by offering an “educational or scientific explanation” for the genetic ancestry results. Many in the online community played a numbers game. If a genetic ancestry test stated someone was 95 percent white European, they would merely count the remaining 5 percent as a statistical error.
--
23andMe, for instance, uses reference dataset that “include genomes from 10,418 people who were carefully chosen to reflect populations that existed before transcontinental travel and migration were common (at least 500 years ago).” To build these geographic groups, they select individuals who say all four of their grandparents were born in the same country, and then remove “outliers” whose DNA markers do not match well within the group.
These choices willfully bias the genetic definitions for both geography and time. They claim that a relatively small group of modern people can reveal the past makeup of Europe, Africa and Asia and the ancestral histories for millions of customers. But their reference groups skew toward the present and overpromise on the details of where people came from.
--_
// So why they keep banning from all the comapny the this one ?
--
While 23andMe denounces the use of their services to justify hateful ideologies, they do not actively ban known white supremacists from their DNA testing.
“A study by 23andMe reported that with their definition of European ancestry, there is an average of 98.6 percent European ancestry among self-reported European-Americans. But given all I’ve said, we should digest this with caution,” Novembre said. “An individual with 100 percent European ancestry tests is simply someone who looks very much like the European reference samples being used.”
Though ancestry companies cite research that claims genetic tests can pinpoint someone within 100 miles of their European ancestral home, that’s not always the case. Marks offered the recent example of three blond triplets who took an ancestry test for the TV show The Doctors. The test said the triplets were 99 percent European. But one sister had more English and Irish ancestry, while another had more French and German. Did we mention they are identical triplets?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/white-supremacists-respond-genetics-say-theyre-not-white
21 March 2018 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
San Diego-based Illumina, Inc.... illu-mina...TI:)
"many Chinese parents still have only one child, and want to ensure its health if not its sex and other traits. Now providers of genetic tests, with some exceptions, will have to apply for special permission from government agencies to conduct such tests"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shuchingjeanchen/2014/03/03/china-cracks-down-on-dna-testing-2/#90b049ad0dd2
"Other than that, a blanket ban is enforced. “Before relevant certification and regulations are promulgated, medical institutions cannot conduct clinical applications of gene sequencing. Those ongoing projects have to stop immediately,” the announcement states."
The official ban was made through a cross-agency announcement posted on the website of the China Food and Drug Administration. The vague wording of the announcement makes it unclear how widely it would apply to different types of genetic testing, but it names prenatal DNA tests as an example of those subject to the ban. It applies to all current projects except those approved by the government, and requires all related medical devices to be licensed by the government before they can be manufactured, imported, sold or used, potentially covering the world’s most popular gene-sequencing equipment, made by San Diego-based Illumina, Inc.
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Genetic testing has grown to be a business big enough in China to warrant the government’s intervention. Early in February, the government quietly put the brakes on the provision of genetic tests to customers by domestic hospitals and a variety of medical and health institutions.
If the ban persists it could blunt the ambitions of Shenzhen-based BGI, which has the world’s largest gene-sequencing capacity, and its various competitors, including Beijing-based Berry Genomics, Hunan-based Second Xiangya Hospital of Central South University, and Shenzhen-listed DAAN Gene. BGI itself is preparing for an IPO to list part of its business. (For more on BGI’s history and businesses, see this Forbes Asia magazine story).
The ban has made the country’s regulation of genetic testing – which existed till now in a legal grey area – among the most stringent, going beyond the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s recent action in stopping a U.S. company, 23andMe, from offering health-related genetic tests directly to consumers.
BGI declined to comment on how the ban would affect its business. It is understood the company is in the process of seeking government approval for the commercial use of its products, including its proprietary sequencing software and the Complete Genomics-branded equipment made by the American company it acquired a year ago. An approval would allow it to sell its noninvasive DNA test, invented in 2010, which screens a fetus for Down syndrome by testing the mother’s blood.
"many Chinese parents still have only one child, and want to ensure its health if not its sex and other traits. Now providers of genetic tests, with some exceptions, will have to apply for special permission from government agencies to conduct such tests"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shuchingjeanchen/2014/03/03/china-cracks-down-on-dna-testing-2/#90b049ad0dd2
"Other than that, a blanket ban is enforced. “Before relevant certification and regulations are promulgated, medical institutions cannot conduct clinical applications of gene sequencing. Those ongoing projects have to stop immediately,” the announcement states."
The official ban was made through a cross-agency announcement posted on the website of the China Food and Drug Administration. The vague wording of the announcement makes it unclear how widely it would apply to different types of genetic testing, but it names prenatal DNA tests as an example of those subject to the ban. It applies to all current projects except those approved by the government, and requires all related medical devices to be licensed by the government before they can be manufactured, imported, sold or used, potentially covering the world’s most popular gene-sequencing equipment, made by San Diego-based Illumina, Inc.
--
Genetic testing has grown to be a business big enough in China to warrant the government’s intervention. Early in February, the government quietly put the brakes on the provision of genetic tests to customers by domestic hospitals and a variety of medical and health institutions.
If the ban persists it could blunt the ambitions of Shenzhen-based BGI, which has the world’s largest gene-sequencing capacity, and its various competitors, including Beijing-based Berry Genomics, Hunan-based Second Xiangya Hospital of Central South University, and Shenzhen-listed DAAN Gene. BGI itself is preparing for an IPO to list part of its business. (For more on BGI’s history and businesses, see this Forbes Asia magazine story).
The ban has made the country’s regulation of genetic testing – which existed till now in a legal grey area – among the most stringent, going beyond the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s recent action in stopping a U.S. company, 23andMe, from offering health-related genetic tests directly to consumers.
BGI declined to comment on how the ban would affect its business. It is understood the company is in the process of seeking government approval for the commercial use of its products, including its proprietary sequencing software and the Complete Genomics-branded equipment made by the American company it acquired a year ago. An approval would allow it to sell its noninvasive DNA test, invented in 2010, which screens a fetus for Down syndrome by testing the mother’s blood.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shuchingjeanchen/2014/03/03/china-cracks-down-on-dna-testing-2/#90b049ad0dd2
21 March 2018 01:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2Fs12687-017-0344-2.pdf
21 March 2018 01:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
latest,
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12687-017-0344-2
Journal of Community Genetics
April 2018, Volume 9, Issue 2, pp 117–132 | Cite as
Legislation of direct-to-consumer genetic testing in Europe: a fragmented regulatory landscape
Despite the increasing availability of direct-to-consumer (DTC) genetic testing, it is currently unclear how such services are regulated in Europe, due to the lack of EU or national legislation specifically addressing this issue. In this article, we provide an overview of laws that could potentially impact the regulation of DTC genetic testing in 26 European countries, namely Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, the Netherlands and the United Kingdom. Emphasis is placed on provisions relating to medical supervision, genetic counselling and informed consent. Our results indicate that currently there is a wide spectrum of laws regarding genetic testing in Europe. There are countries (e.g. France and Germany) which essentially ban DTC genetic testing, while in others (e.g. Luxembourg and Poland) DTC genetic testing may only be restricted by general laws, usually regarding health care services and patients’ rights.
Keywords
Direct-to-consumer genetic tests Regulation In vitro diagnostic medical devices Medical supervision Genetic counselling Informed consent
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Since the 1960s, genetic tests have been provided to patients for health-related reasons within a clinical setting (Sanfilippo et al. 2015), usually following a medical referral, genetic counselling, and upon obtaining informed consent. However, in the last decade, a wide variety of direct-to-consumer (DTC) genetic tests have also been made available by commercial companies with varying involvement of healthcare professionals. In some cases, genetic tests are advertised DTC, but then ordered by a healthcare provider, who may also be the recipient of the test results; in other cases, tests are advertised, sold and delivered DTC without any involvement of a medical professional (Hogarth et al. 2008). In the latter case, the consumer usually orders a genetic test online. Subsequently, he/she receives a testing kit at home to collect a biological sample (which, depending on the test, usually comprises of an accumulated volume of saliva or hair). After sending the biological sample to the company, genetic material is extracted from it, and the DNA is analysed. A few weeks later, the consumer is provided with the test results, which are sent to him/her either via email or upon accessing a secure website (Kalokairinou et al. 2014).
Currently, a large number of both health-related and non-health-related genetic tests is available directly to consumers (Phillips 2016). The former group includes diagnostic tests for monogenic diseases such as cystic fibrosis, susceptibility tests for common complex disorders such as cardiovascular disease and diabetes, carrier tests for X-linked and recessive disorders, as well as pharmacogenomic and nutrigenomic tests. Non-health-related tests include ancestry tests, athletic performance tests, matchmaking tests and tests for ‘fun’ traits, such as ear wax type and eye colour (EASAC and FEAM Working Group 2012).
This model of providing genetic testing has been very controversial among stakeholders over the past years. On the one hand, proponents have been underlining that DTC genetic testing enhances the autonomy of consumers (Vayena 2015) and allows them to be in charge of their healthcare management (Marietta and Mcguire 2009), all without the intermediary of doctors and long waiting lists for hospital appointments. Furthermore, it has been argued that consumers have a right to their genetic information (Su et al. 2013) and that, by circumventing the public healthcare system, the privacy of genetic data may be better protected against insurers and employers.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12687-017-0344-2
Journal of Community Genetics
April 2018, Volume 9, Issue 2, pp 117–132 | Cite as
Legislation of direct-to-consumer genetic testing in Europe: a fragmented regulatory landscape
Despite the increasing availability of direct-to-consumer (DTC) genetic testing, it is currently unclear how such services are regulated in Europe, due to the lack of EU or national legislation specifically addressing this issue. In this article, we provide an overview of laws that could potentially impact the regulation of DTC genetic testing in 26 European countries, namely Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, the Netherlands and the United Kingdom. Emphasis is placed on provisions relating to medical supervision, genetic counselling and informed consent. Our results indicate that currently there is a wide spectrum of laws regarding genetic testing in Europe. There are countries (e.g. France and Germany) which essentially ban DTC genetic testing, while in others (e.g. Luxembourg and Poland) DTC genetic testing may only be restricted by general laws, usually regarding health care services and patients’ rights.
Keywords
Direct-to-consumer genetic tests Regulation In vitro diagnostic medical devices Medical supervision Genetic counselling Informed consent
--
Since the 1960s, genetic tests have been provided to patients for health-related reasons within a clinical setting (Sanfilippo et al. 2015), usually following a medical referral, genetic counselling, and upon obtaining informed consent. However, in the last decade, a wide variety of direct-to-consumer (DTC) genetic tests have also been made available by commercial companies with varying involvement of healthcare professionals. In some cases, genetic tests are advertised DTC, but then ordered by a healthcare provider, who may also be the recipient of the test results; in other cases, tests are advertised, sold and delivered DTC without any involvement of a medical professional (Hogarth et al. 2008). In the latter case, the consumer usually orders a genetic test online. Subsequently, he/she receives a testing kit at home to collect a biological sample (which, depending on the test, usually comprises of an accumulated volume of saliva or hair). After sending the biological sample to the company, genetic material is extracted from it, and the DNA is analysed. A few weeks later, the consumer is provided with the test results, which are sent to him/her either via email or upon accessing a secure website (Kalokairinou et al. 2014).
Currently, a large number of both health-related and non-health-related genetic tests is available directly to consumers (Phillips 2016). The former group includes diagnostic tests for monogenic diseases such as cystic fibrosis, susceptibility tests for common complex disorders such as cardiovascular disease and diabetes, carrier tests for X-linked and recessive disorders, as well as pharmacogenomic and nutrigenomic tests. Non-health-related tests include ancestry tests, athletic performance tests, matchmaking tests and tests for ‘fun’ traits, such as ear wax type and eye colour (EASAC and FEAM Working Group 2012).
This model of providing genetic testing has been very controversial among stakeholders over the past years. On the one hand, proponents have been underlining that DTC genetic testing enhances the autonomy of consumers (Vayena 2015) and allows them to be in charge of their healthcare management (Marietta and Mcguire 2009), all without the intermediary of doctors and long waiting lists for hospital appointments. Furthermore, it has been argued that consumers have a right to their genetic information (Su et al. 2013) and that, by circumventing the public healthcare system, the privacy of genetic data may be better protected against insurers and employers.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12687-017-0344-2
21 March 2018 01:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.eurogentest.org/index.php?id=732
A European Commission (EC) Expert Group emphasized, in 2004, that “a consensus definition of genetic testing should be developed globally”. The need for an agreement of a common definition was also identified at an EC informal network on genetic testing by representatives of the Member States of the European Union. The purpose of this work was the collection and analysis of European and other legislation on genetic testing and comparison of the definitions therewith contained. Documents were analysed for type and object of testing, as used in the 1st background document on Definitions of Genetic Testing, and compared by legal fields (insurance and labour law, privacy and confidentiality, data protection, biobanks, health care and forensics); some (often supranational) laws are very complex and dealt with various legal fields at the same time. There was no standard for the definitions used in the legal documents analysed, but different approaches were identified (some used a more general, while others applied a more specific definition of genetic testing). Since definitions are core elements of legal documents, their harmonization within a particular legal field is very needed, but will also be very challenging.
Introduction
A European Commission (EC) Expert Group produced the document “25 Recommendations on the Ethical, Legal and Social Implications of Genetic Testing, 2004”1. In this document, the working group established, as its very first recommendation, the need to “refer precisely to an explicit definition of the terms used or topic addressed” on any official statement or position, but also the need to develop “a consensus definition of genetic testing should be developed globally”1.
That document suggested that this definition should be developed by “all respective public and private bodies involved (including the World Health Organisation, the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development, the European Commission, the International Federation of Genetic Societies, and the International Conference on Harmonisation)”; and that “the European Commission should consider taking the initiative” on the topic.
In this document, the expert group used a broad definition for genetic testing, i.e., “any test that yields genetic data”2, unambiguously revealing underlying DNA information, either germ-line or somatic and where the nature/technology of the test is not important, but the information derived.
The need for an agreement of a common definition was also identified at the meeting of an informal network with Member-States (MS) representatives, which was a follow up of the expert group.
As a consequence, the EC asked the European NoE EuroGenetest2 to prepare such a definition. This was preceded by a review of definitions of genetic testing in documents (recommendations, guidelines, other) from several of the main international and European Institutions, but also from professional organizations (genetics and other), official government regulatory bodies and agencies, national health institutions, pharmaceutical industry, insurers, ethical organizations, patient associations, human rights organizations, among others.
With the present document, we extend now that analysis and reflection to the definitions of genetic testing contained in European and other legal documents.
Aims
The major general aim of this work was to contribute to the discussion of a consensus definition and of its global applicability.
Among the specific aims of WP3.4 were the comparison of definitions of genetic testing contained in legal documents from official bodies in Europe and its Member-States (MS) and that from other countries (USA, Canada, Japan, Australia and others).
Another aim was to compare these legal documents regarding genetic testing, based upon those definitions, and the context in which they were used, and relate them to the specific objectives and purposes of that legislation.
A European Commission (EC) Expert Group emphasized, in 2004, that “a consensus definition of genetic testing should be developed globally”. The need for an agreement of a common definition was also identified at an EC informal network on genetic testing by representatives of the Member States of the European Union. The purpose of this work was the collection and analysis of European and other legislation on genetic testing and comparison of the definitions therewith contained. Documents were analysed for type and object of testing, as used in the 1st background document on Definitions of Genetic Testing, and compared by legal fields (insurance and labour law, privacy and confidentiality, data protection, biobanks, health care and forensics); some (often supranational) laws are very complex and dealt with various legal fields at the same time. There was no standard for the definitions used in the legal documents analysed, but different approaches were identified (some used a more general, while others applied a more specific definition of genetic testing). Since definitions are core elements of legal documents, their harmonization within a particular legal field is very needed, but will also be very challenging.
Introduction
A European Commission (EC) Expert Group produced the document “25 Recommendations on the Ethical, Legal and Social Implications of Genetic Testing, 2004”1. In this document, the working group established, as its very first recommendation, the need to “refer precisely to an explicit definition of the terms used or topic addressed” on any official statement or position, but also the need to develop “a consensus definition of genetic testing should be developed globally”1.
That document suggested that this definition should be developed by “all respective public and private bodies involved (including the World Health Organisation, the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development, the European Commission, the International Federation of Genetic Societies, and the International Conference on Harmonisation)”; and that “the European Commission should consider taking the initiative” on the topic.
In this document, the expert group used a broad definition for genetic testing, i.e., “any test that yields genetic data”2, unambiguously revealing underlying DNA information, either germ-line or somatic and where the nature/technology of the test is not important, but the information derived.
The need for an agreement of a common definition was also identified at the meeting of an informal network with Member-States (MS) representatives, which was a follow up of the expert group.
As a consequence, the EC asked the European NoE EuroGenetest2 to prepare such a definition. This was preceded by a review of definitions of genetic testing in documents (recommendations, guidelines, other) from several of the main international and European Institutions, but also from professional organizations (genetics and other), official government regulatory bodies and agencies, national health institutions, pharmaceutical industry, insurers, ethical organizations, patient associations, human rights organizations, among others.
With the present document, we extend now that analysis and reflection to the definitions of genetic testing contained in European and other legal documents.
Aims
The major general aim of this work was to contribute to the discussion of a consensus definition and of its global applicability.
Among the specific aims of WP3.4 were the comparison of definitions of genetic testing contained in legal documents from official bodies in Europe and its Member-States (MS) and that from other countries (USA, Canada, Japan, Australia and others).
Another aim was to compare these legal documents regarding genetic testing, based upon those definitions, and the context in which they were used, and relate them to the specific objectives and purposes of that legislation.
http://www.eurogentest.org/index.php?id=732
21 March 2018 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/genewatch/GeneWatchPage.aspx?pageId=568
In the United States, action by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) against companies selling health-related genetic tests online, such as the Google-funded company 23andMe, has made headline news. But few people realize that 23andMe began marketing their tests in Europe after the FDA imposed its ban, taking advantage of a lack of regulation.[1][2] In the UK, the high street store Superdrug is selling unregulated genetic tests which have been banned in the U.S., and the tests are also available online.[3] 23andMe has been encouraging families to test their children, contrary to ethical advice.[4]
23andMe's actions have been widely criticized by doctors, particularly because new European gene test regulations are close to being finalized, following recognition that assessment of health claims is essential to protect consumers. Likely to be adopted in 2016, this regulation is expected to have a five year lead-in time, but will ultimately require companies to provide evidence of the scientific validity of the tests they sell.
Direct to Consumer (DTC) sales of health-related genetic tests have been contentious in the UK since the UK company Sciona began selling gene tests with dietary advice in high street stores in 2001.[5] GeneWatch UK conducted investigations into the scientific validity of Sciona's tests and those of other companies and found most health claims could not be substantiated. Our findings were subsequently reinforced by investigations by the US Government Accountability Office (GAO)[6],[7] and academic researchers.[8] In 2008, a Sunday Times journalist exposed how different companies selling gene tests in the UK would give consumers contradictory interpretations of their genetic code,[9] a problem that was exposed again in the USA in 2013 by the New York Times.[10] Regulators were slow to act, though, given that commentators first highlighted a need for regulation in the 1990s.[11][12]
After more than a decade of the debate, Europe's new In Vitro Diagnostics (IVD) Regulation will finally regulate software and algorithms used for health diagnoses or predictions, including genetic and genomic tests, in the European Union.
The IVD Regulation has now entered so-called "trilogue" negotiations between the European Parliament, the Council (which represents the Governments of EU member states) and the Commission (the EU's civil service, which wrote the first draft of the new law).[13] The final outcome will be a compromise between the three versions of the text, which will then be accepted or rejected by the European Parliament, probably next year. This means some issues have been settled, while others will be decided during the negotiations.
In the EU, powers for prior pre-market assessment of genetic tests are weaker than those exercised by the FDA, and it is expected that most oversight will remain with "notified bodies" which act as consultants to the companies making applications to sell tests on the EU market. This has led to some doubts about the quality of scrutiny of the evidence that companies provide. Nevertheless, for the first time companies will be required to collect and submit evidence about the scientific validity of genetic tests they place on the EU market, including their predictive value.
Clauses which ban direct-to-consumer (DTC) sales of health-related genetic tests and make counselling mandatory appear only in the European Parliament's version of the draft regulation, and remain contentious. EU member states disagree on the substance of a DTC ban, and the Council also argues that counselling provisions are an issue for each member state, not a decision that should be made at the European level. However, these clauses reflect widespread concerns about DTC genetic tests and their impacts on both individual patients and European health services. Universal health coverage in European countries, funded directly by taxpayers or by social insurance, means there is concern not only about the impacts of misleading tests directly on consumers but also about the potential for scarce healthcare resources to be misdirected towards follow-up of poorly predictive tests or algorithms bought without advice from doctors.
Another proposal in the European Parliament's version of the Regulation is that tests marketed with a recommendation to take a particular drug depending on the outcome of the test (known as "companion diagnostics") should require companies to supply evidence that the combination of the test and the drug improves health outcomes (i.e. shows "clinical utility"). However, this proposal is not included in either the Council or the Commission versions of the text.
Strict regulation would restrict the market for genetic tests and other health-related algorithms to those that genuinely showed some benefit to health and would prevent companies from making unsupported and misleading claims. It is too early to say exactly what requirements will appear in the final version of the EU's new IVD Regulation. However, it is clear that the days when companies could market genetic tests to European consumers with entirely unsubstantiated health claims are drawing to an end.
In the United States, action by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) against companies selling health-related genetic tests online, such as the Google-funded company 23andMe, has made headline news. But few people realize that 23andMe began marketing their tests in Europe after the FDA imposed its ban, taking advantage of a lack of regulation.[1][2] In the UK, the high street store Superdrug is selling unregulated genetic tests which have been banned in the U.S., and the tests are also available online.[3] 23andMe has been encouraging families to test their children, contrary to ethical advice.[4]
23andMe's actions have been widely criticized by doctors, particularly because new European gene test regulations are close to being finalized, following recognition that assessment of health claims is essential to protect consumers. Likely to be adopted in 2016, this regulation is expected to have a five year lead-in time, but will ultimately require companies to provide evidence of the scientific validity of the tests they sell.
Direct to Consumer (DTC) sales of health-related genetic tests have been contentious in the UK since the UK company Sciona began selling gene tests with dietary advice in high street stores in 2001.[5] GeneWatch UK conducted investigations into the scientific validity of Sciona's tests and those of other companies and found most health claims could not be substantiated. Our findings were subsequently reinforced by investigations by the US Government Accountability Office (GAO)[6],[7] and academic researchers.[8] In 2008, a Sunday Times journalist exposed how different companies selling gene tests in the UK would give consumers contradictory interpretations of their genetic code,[9] a problem that was exposed again in the USA in 2013 by the New York Times.[10] Regulators were slow to act, though, given that commentators first highlighted a need for regulation in the 1990s.[11][12]
After more than a decade of the debate, Europe's new In Vitro Diagnostics (IVD) Regulation will finally regulate software and algorithms used for health diagnoses or predictions, including genetic and genomic tests, in the European Union.
The IVD Regulation has now entered so-called "trilogue" negotiations between the European Parliament, the Council (which represents the Governments of EU member states) and the Commission (the EU's civil service, which wrote the first draft of the new law).[13] The final outcome will be a compromise between the three versions of the text, which will then be accepted or rejected by the European Parliament, probably next year. This means some issues have been settled, while others will be decided during the negotiations.
In the EU, powers for prior pre-market assessment of genetic tests are weaker than those exercised by the FDA, and it is expected that most oversight will remain with "notified bodies" which act as consultants to the companies making applications to sell tests on the EU market. This has led to some doubts about the quality of scrutiny of the evidence that companies provide. Nevertheless, for the first time companies will be required to collect and submit evidence about the scientific validity of genetic tests they place on the EU market, including their predictive value.
Clauses which ban direct-to-consumer (DTC) sales of health-related genetic tests and make counselling mandatory appear only in the European Parliament's version of the draft regulation, and remain contentious. EU member states disagree on the substance of a DTC ban, and the Council also argues that counselling provisions are an issue for each member state, not a decision that should be made at the European level. However, these clauses reflect widespread concerns about DTC genetic tests and their impacts on both individual patients and European health services. Universal health coverage in European countries, funded directly by taxpayers or by social insurance, means there is concern not only about the impacts of misleading tests directly on consumers but also about the potential for scarce healthcare resources to be misdirected towards follow-up of poorly predictive tests or algorithms bought without advice from doctors.
Another proposal in the European Parliament's version of the Regulation is that tests marketed with a recommendation to take a particular drug depending on the outcome of the test (known as "companion diagnostics") should require companies to supply evidence that the combination of the test and the drug improves health outcomes (i.e. shows "clinical utility"). However, this proposal is not included in either the Council or the Commission versions of the text.
Strict regulation would restrict the market for genetic tests and other health-related algorithms to those that genuinely showed some benefit to health and would prevent companies from making unsupported and misleading claims. It is too early to say exactly what requirements will appear in the final version of the EU's new IVD Regulation. However, it is clear that the days when companies could market genetic tests to European consumers with entirely unsubstantiated health claims are drawing to an end.
http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/genewatch/GeneWatchPage.aspx?pageId=568
21 March 2018 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
21 March 2018 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Supperkangelased!
20 March 2018 22:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Vot üks kena maja!
20 March 2018 17:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Raske hommiku jäljed lihtsalt õuesmagamisest...
20 March 2018 17:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Raske hommiku jäljed lihtsalt õuesmagamisest...
20 March 2018 17:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ojakooli õpilaste Viljad
20 March 2018 17:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Raivo Järvi sõbra baar, kes Soome kunstnikutele kunstilist tuupi tegi
20 March 2018 17:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Minu riidepuu
20 March 2018 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
True True.. väärt leid vajalikul hommikul
20 March 2018 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Vot sellega nüüd läks jah nii... Isamaliidul olid suuremad tikutopsid ka...
20 March 2018 17:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Selle kuuri omanik Sai oma enda valejuttude tõttu ikka tõsiselt midagi valesti aru... nu jah, eks mind ka elu õpetab, et kõik kes säravad ja on siirad ei pruugi olla mõistuse ja südame juures poolehoidvalt
20 March 2018 17:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Uus kultuuri-Dimensioon VIljandis ..
Armumaasikas Viljandisse
Armumaasikas Viljandisse
20 March 2018 17:17
Margus Meigo replied to Natalija Šapranskaja's comment.
Natalija Šapranskaja Eks meie peame, kes siis veel.
Ega suuri nimesi muidu suhu pole plaanis võtta, ükspäev nad küsivad, muheldes, muuseas, et : Nu kuidas siis olema hakkab, mida soovitate?
Vot siis meil vastused peaks olemas olema :p
Ega suuri nimesi muidu suhu pole plaanis võtta, ükspäev nad küsivad, muheldes, muuseas, et : Nu kuidas siis olema hakkab, mida soovitate?
Vot siis meil vastused peaks olemas olema :p
20 March 2018 17:05
Margus Meigo replied to Natalija Šapranskaja's comment.
Kellega neist kolmest meil suurimad ja reaalsemad sõprussuhtes siis luua saa, milliste strateegiatega?
Childidega siis, kuna nod me pinnal ?
Childidega siis, kuna nod me pinnal ?
20 March 2018 15:43
Margus Meigo commented on Loreida Hein's photo.
Wau!
Kuidas pildi, kas lennumasinaga?
Kuidas pildi, kas lennumasinaga?
20 March 2018 15:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Site to figure out:
https://headtalker.com/gigs/iifepost/
https://headtalker.com/gigs/iifepost/
https://headtalker.com/gigs/iifepost/
20 March 2018 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
This site seems exclusevly made for cross promoting and supporting these products to get them in to market... have to look in to investigate deep on to relations of these people backround
https://headtalker.com/campaigns/hot-sinful-nights-amazon-5/
https://headtalker.com/campaigns/hot-and-sinful-nights-nook-2/
https://headtalker.com/campaigns/hot-sinful-nights-amazon-5/
https://headtalker.com/campaigns/hot-and-sinful-nights-nook-2/
https://headtalker.com/campaigns/hot-sinful-nights-amazon-5/
20 March 2018 02:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Must look in to this, is a bit messed up i guess:
// supperters the ones who give money for a project..
"Prepare to melt for 22 tales of lustful abandon that will fulfill your deepest, darkest, most secret desires on many HOT & SINFUL NIGHTS. Inside, you’ll find over one million words of sexy and steamy romance from today’s NEW YORK TIMES, USA TODAY, and International bestselling authors!
FEATURING: Alice Ward | USA Today bestselling author Barbara Devlin | Ella Miles | Courtney Hunt | Shyla Colt | Alyson Reynolds | Ingrid Seymour | Jeanne St. James | USA Today bestselling author M. H. Soars | Award-Winning author Jenna Bayley-Burke | D.K. Combs | Sylvie Fox | Alexis Alvarez | USA Today bestselling author Amity Cross | Award-Winning author Katalina Leon | Award-Winning author Holly Dodd | Ashelyn Drake | Kacey Shea | Lena Bourne | Deliaria Davis | Award-Winning author Marie Long | Kristen Luciani "
// supperters the ones who give money for a project..
"Prepare to melt for 22 tales of lustful abandon that will fulfill your deepest, darkest, most secret desires on many HOT & SINFUL NIGHTS. Inside, you’ll find over one million words of sexy and steamy romance from today’s NEW YORK TIMES, USA TODAY, and International bestselling authors!
FEATURING: Alice Ward | USA Today bestselling author Barbara Devlin | Ella Miles | Courtney Hunt | Shyla Colt | Alyson Reynolds | Ingrid Seymour | Jeanne St. James | USA Today bestselling author M. H. Soars | Award-Winning author Jenna Bayley-Burke | D.K. Combs | Sylvie Fox | Alexis Alvarez | USA Today bestselling author Amity Cross | Award-Winning author Katalina Leon | Award-Winning author Holly Dodd | Ashelyn Drake | Kacey Shea | Lena Bourne | Deliaria Davis | Award-Winning author Marie Long | Kristen Luciani "
20 March 2018 02:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vb suurpuhastusega minigd bakterid lennutasime üles
20 March 2018 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja nüüd mõlemal keset sooja tuba tekkinud järsku mingi meeletu kuiv köha ja imuunsüsteemi kõikumine, , hmm, mis värks sellega on,
Teeme väikse palvega ehk ruumi puhtaks kuid ikkagi.
Njea
Teeme väikse palvega ehk ruumi puhtaks kuid ikkagi.
Njea
20 March 2018 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tuleb ikka inimlik olla,
reaalselt inimlik
reaalselt inimlik
20 March 2018 01:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nüüd veel suts üle paari nädala ja jälle.. huvitav asi see... harjumatu ikka, et niisama makstakse palka.
Peaasi, et sellega ära eip harju
Peaasi, et sellega ära eip harju
20 March 2018 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Samas tegelikult viisakas, et münte eip võetud ja muud tarvilikku, ses osas ikka väga õnnelik ja hea juhus
20 March 2018 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
õnneks need inimesed vist ei loe fb, muidu peab piibli ka ärapeitma :D
20 March 2018 01:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Allar Kaljundi xD
20 March 2018 01:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so humans can understand their responsibilities why they live in here
19 March 2018 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
What about intreducsing medical plants, psychdellics, peruu knowladge (if as much tere is after LAST forced sterilization / mass genotizide made before year 2000..)
19 March 2018 23:28
Margus Meigo commented on Fortune's live video.
What about reforming mindset and providing humans access spiritual plants or psychdellics that can help humans more clearly to see how they should live and what is this world about
19 March 2018 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kunter Tätte's post.
Tuvid mu ühed lemmikud!
Ise ka Kaelustuvi hüüdnime kandnud :p
Ise ka Kaelustuvi hüüdnime kandnud :p
19 March 2018 23:07
Margus Meigo commented on Michael Laumann Andersen's post.
Your Skills have become more and more amazing Kadri!
19 March 2018 22:54
Margus Meigo commented on Simona Serafima's photo.
Teil on nii vedanud, Vaadake, et meisterklassi näitate ja sellesajandi 80ndatel endiselt koos olete, õpetamaks Noortele Armastuseväärtust ja Hoidmise Kunsti !
19 March 2018 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on Simona Serafima's photo.
Kena loodus keskkond
19 March 2018 22:43
Margus Meigo replied to Kristopher Rikken's comment.
Kristopher Rikken Tell me more, will try to focus what is Your need?
19 March 2018 19:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
perhaps want to share out some noble prizes also while You are @ it
19 March 2018 04:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
meeting with n.koreah. yeah.. well what a accomplishment.. and calling sweden to be translator.. well
19 March 2018 04:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
You must add up the person behavor and status to see new reason who is who
as there is ways how super class can not act and be, unless they are in a special club, that uses them to be a face of organisation that they need
as there is ways how super class can not act and be, unless they are in a special club, that uses them to be a face of organisation that they need
19 March 2018 04:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But they still forget to mention, that he is controlable thanks to fact, of being member of communist party, for life.
Trump
for now still seems so from all the past
Trump
for now still seems so from all the past
19 March 2018 04:21
Margus Meigo commented on Maddox Rules's photo.
In Estonian
Just to mention " ilu / illu " means: Beauty
and " mina " means : Me
and " nati " means : a little bit
But also, " ilumina " is meaning like mineral of beauty
Anyway, not that it would mean anythng, just sayng
Just to mention " ilu / illu " means: Beauty
and " mina " means : Me
and " nati " means : a little bit
But also, " ilumina " is meaning like mineral of beauty
Anyway, not that it would mean anythng, just sayng
19 March 2018 04:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid see plaan, lisaks austuse tõstmisele (see mõjub enamusele populatsioonile kes pole täiskasvanud normaalsuses just täpselt selliselt, enamustele noortele ka & tulevastele agentidele)
et lisaks sellele,
to tundub mul nagu planeeritud selline lüke, et pannakse EU vabandama valesüüdistuste eest ja tehakse Vene veel ohvriks,
Vanasti laboriuksed ju neil lahti olid,
kes iganes siis saada võis..
saavad öelda ja rahvale teada anda, selliselt.
Ning siis veel irvitada pärast kui tarvis, et "Näe, tegime ikkagi, aga te vabandama panime rahvusvaheliselt, et te meid selles süüdistasite, sest tõendid planeerisime selliselt, et .... leiaksite ise... et me poel süüdi "
Eks näis kuidas ja kuhumaani jumal selle asja laseb väljamängida.
et lisaks sellele,
to tundub mul nagu planeeritud selline lüke, et pannakse EU vabandama valesüüdistuste eest ja tehakse Vene veel ohvriks,
Vanasti laboriuksed ju neil lahti olid,
kes iganes siis saada võis..
saavad öelda ja rahvale teada anda, selliselt.
Ning siis veel irvitada pärast kui tarvis, et "Näe, tegime ikkagi, aga te vabandama panime rahvusvaheliselt, et te meid selles süüdistasite, sest tõendid planeerisime selliselt, et .... leiaksite ise... et me poel süüdi "
Eks näis kuidas ja kuhumaani jumal selle asja laseb väljamängida.
19 March 2018 04:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Putin has also benefitted from the election of Donald Trump, who is arguably the most pro-Russian US president in modern history. The American intelligence community unanimously believes that Moscow interfered in the 2016 election to sway its result towards Trump, but the president has both angrily dismissed those assertions and shied away from seriously punishing Russia for its meddling. Trump has not yet weighed in on Sunday’s election.
Still, there are some signs that President Trump may finally be willing to confront Putin for at least some of his misdeeds "
// HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Sure! Sure Trump Conforts... unless CIA or someone will make timely project to reinstall ones soul....
https://www.vox.com/2018/3/18/17135896/russian-elections-vladimir-putin-wins
Still, there are some signs that President Trump may finally be willing to confront Putin for at least some of his misdeeds "
// HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Sure! Sure Trump Conforts... unless CIA or someone will make timely project to reinstall ones soul....
https://www.vox.com/2018/3/18/17135896/russian-elections-vladimir-putin-wins
https://www.vox.com/2018/3/18/17135896/russian-elections-vladimir-putin-wins
19 March 2018 04:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/volker-says-self-proclaimed-republics-disbanded-ukraine.html
https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/volker-says-self-proclaimed-republics-disbanded-ukraine.html
19 March 2018 03:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oeh.. ni ivaja kedagi kes mu motetele kirjakeeles arusaadava paraleeli kirjutaks.. ja tehnloogilsielt arnumat platformi... kuid saama siduvusega... kuidas ma ärajõuan oodata need aerngud endas ja tehnikas..
19 March 2018 03:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//kolab nagu liberaalide propa alguses... kuid siis tuelb arusaada, et ega lipsu kandvad konservatiivid ...ongi Liberaalide., .. ja nende tag aolevate kommunistide ja tipp agentuuride, roomaipeeriumi ja sellest sügavamale veel samm mines, mustade jõudude mõjutuses ja lollituses oelvad droidid vaimse maailma silmeläbi vaadates.. ... et ringiga, see kes tundub ühel pool olema Paha vastane, on läbi kõikide soppade hoopis suurima vastase teener, ja veel selliselt, et nad nii suure ringiga sinnani jõuavad, ja samas teiseltpoolt OTSE promotakse loppunkti positiivsust.. ja siis kui SuurLiider peaks olema, kohal, see kuhu nad jõuavad.. siis nad kiirelt alluksid... ka enamus need korvatagant raseeriad... ja muidu populistid
"Other researchers have also found that beyond risk perception, liberals appear to have more of a need to think critically than conservatives. In a conversation with the Washington Post’s Christopher Ingraham, professor Stefan Pfattheicher of Ulm University noted it’s not a question of intelligence, just ways of thinking. “This seems to be more a matter of motivation to process information (or news) in a critical, reflective thinking style than the ability to do so,” he said.
The fake news problem in the United States shows little signs of subsiding
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/12/07/why-conservatives-might-be-more-likely-to-fall-for-fake-news/?utm_term=.2f6b9b96b8ec
"Other researchers have also found that beyond risk perception, liberals appear to have more of a need to think critically than conservatives. In a conversation with the Washington Post’s Christopher Ingraham, professor Stefan Pfattheicher of Ulm University noted it’s not a question of intelligence, just ways of thinking. “This seems to be more a matter of motivation to process information (or news) in a critical, reflective thinking style than the ability to do so,” he said.
The fake news problem in the United States shows little signs of subsiding
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/12/07/why-conservatives-might-be-more-likely-to-fall-for-fake-news/?utm_term=.2f6b9b96b8ec
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/12/07/why-conservatives-might-be-more-likely-to-fall-for-fake-news/?utm_term=.2f6b9b96b8ec
19 March 2018 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi eks päris terminid siin suts sassi aetud, sest minu terminoloogia järgi, siin oleks liigitus erinev... kes on conservatiivne ja kes..
"The study focused on content from the 2,752 now-deactivated Russian troll accounts identified by Congress in November.
The USC researchers found that conservatives retweeted Russian trolls about 31 times more often than liberals and produced 36 times more tweets. Most retweets of the trolls came from two specific states: Tennessee and Texas. Of the accounts analyzed, they estimated that 4.9 percent of liberal-leaning accounts that spread troll content were bots, and 6.2 percent of conservatives ones were bots.
“Although an ideologically broad swath of Twitter users were exposed to Russian trolls in the period leading up to the 2016 US presidential election, it was mainly conservatives who helped amplify their message,” USC researchers Adam Badawy, Emilio Ferrara, and Kristina Lerman wrote.
During the period they examined — September 16 to October 21, 2016 — the researchers found that trolls were producing more conservative content than liberals, but also that conservative users were much more inclined to amplify the message. There were about four times as many Russian trolls posting conservative content as liberal ones, and they produced about 20 times more content, most of which had a right-leaning, pro-Trump agenda. Conservative-leaning Twitter users were picking up what Russian trolls were putting down.
Conservatives tend to fall into the “fake news” trap a little more often than liberals, and there are a multitude of reasons
Another recent study from an Oxford University project on computational propaganda found that on both Twitter and Facebook, Trump supporters and extreme hard-right conservatives consume and share a disproportionate amount of fake news. Researchers looked at three months of social media data leading up to President Donald Trump’s State of the Union address and how users interacted with what they deemed “junk news” — 91 sites they identified as having problems with credibility, bias, and professionalism.
“On Twitter, a network of Trump supporters shares the widest range of known junk news sources and circulates more junk news than all the other groups put together,” the researchers wrote. “On Facebook, extreme hard right pages — distinct from Republican pages — share the widest range of known junk news sources and circulate more junk news than all the other audiences put together.” (The study did not delve into Russian propaganda or users.)
That conservatives are seemingly prone to spread content from Russian trolls or junk news isn’t a matter of intelligence — it might be because they are more attuned to threats, even if those threats aren’t real. A study published in the journal Psychological Science (and cited by the Atlantic) found that right-leaning people are often hyper-attuned to what they perceive as potential hazards and tend to believe signs of danger rather than ignore them.
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// kogu leht edais ka päris pädevalt loetav
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/24/17047880/conservatives-amplified-russian-trolls-more-often-than-liberals
"The study focused on content from the 2,752 now-deactivated Russian troll accounts identified by Congress in November.
The USC researchers found that conservatives retweeted Russian trolls about 31 times more often than liberals and produced 36 times more tweets. Most retweets of the trolls came from two specific states: Tennessee and Texas. Of the accounts analyzed, they estimated that 4.9 percent of liberal-leaning accounts that spread troll content were bots, and 6.2 percent of conservatives ones were bots.
“Although an ideologically broad swath of Twitter users were exposed to Russian trolls in the period leading up to the 2016 US presidential election, it was mainly conservatives who helped amplify their message,” USC researchers Adam Badawy, Emilio Ferrara, and Kristina Lerman wrote.
During the period they examined — September 16 to October 21, 2016 — the researchers found that trolls were producing more conservative content than liberals, but also that conservative users were much more inclined to amplify the message. There were about four times as many Russian trolls posting conservative content as liberal ones, and they produced about 20 times more content, most of which had a right-leaning, pro-Trump agenda. Conservative-leaning Twitter users were picking up what Russian trolls were putting down.
Conservatives tend to fall into the “fake news” trap a little more often than liberals, and there are a multitude of reasons
Another recent study from an Oxford University project on computational propaganda found that on both Twitter and Facebook, Trump supporters and extreme hard-right conservatives consume and share a disproportionate amount of fake news. Researchers looked at three months of social media data leading up to President Donald Trump’s State of the Union address and how users interacted with what they deemed “junk news” — 91 sites they identified as having problems with credibility, bias, and professionalism.
“On Twitter, a network of Trump supporters shares the widest range of known junk news sources and circulates more junk news than all the other groups put together,” the researchers wrote. “On Facebook, extreme hard right pages — distinct from Republican pages — share the widest range of known junk news sources and circulate more junk news than all the other audiences put together.” (The study did not delve into Russian propaganda or users.)
That conservatives are seemingly prone to spread content from Russian trolls or junk news isn’t a matter of intelligence — it might be because they are more attuned to threats, even if those threats aren’t real. A study published in the journal Psychological Science (and cited by the Atlantic) found that right-leaning people are often hyper-attuned to what they perceive as potential hazards and tend to believe signs of danger rather than ignore them.
...
// kogu leht edais ka päris pädevalt loetav
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/24/17047880/conservatives-amplified-russian-trolls-more-often-than-liberals
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/24/17047880/conservatives-amplified-russian-trolls-more-often-than-liberals
19 March 2018 03:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
PS: Concradiolations,
19 March 2018 03:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.kyivpost.com/russia/tillerson-russia-irresponsible-force-instability-world.html
https://www.kyivpost.com/russia/tillerson-russia-irresponsible-force-instability-world.html
19 March 2018 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nii ropult ebasobivad on tänapäeva osade naiste siirad YT videod, et panin vahepeal selle juba privaatseks siin..
19 March 2018 03:16
Margus Meigo commented on Eerik N Kross's photo.
See idee mis tal olevat olnud, et Võtame raha maksumaksjalt ja anname rahvale..
See ikka parim, raske ületada
See ikka parim, raske ületada
19 March 2018 03:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid Russian-Embasy osas: "They keeping it real"
19 March 2018 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on Eerik N Kross's post.
Vähemasti vedas, et neil nii häbiväärne õnnetus ei juhtunud nagu Gareth Williamsil,
, müstiline, et 8 aastat hiljem, Wikipedia endiselt täis oletusi, et kas ta siis pani ennast ise kotti või ta poiss... (see turvamaja oli veel..)
"by an untraceable poison introduced in his ear."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Gareth_Williams
// sellepärast ka neid lisakihte vaja Wikiepdiaski..
, müstiline, et 8 aastat hiljem, Wikipedia endiselt täis oletusi, et kas ta siis pani ennast ise kotti või ta poiss... (see turvamaja oli veel..)
"by an untraceable poison introduced in his ear."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Gareth_Williams
// sellepärast ka neid lisakihte vaja Wikiepdiaski..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Gareth_Williams
19 March 2018 03:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
vast Google tulnuk-robot AI
hoogu sattunud ja grupeerib inimesed väärtuste gruppidesse ja siis see segadus.. ... et mõlemad katekoorjas mis olematud vajalikuselt robotisilmas... aah ei siin.. siin nii pole, kuid muidu kyll, arvuti nii vaatab neid asju suuresti tulevikus, peab arvestama
hoogu sattunud ja grupeerib inimesed väärtuste gruppidesse ja siis see segadus.. ... et mõlemad katekoorjas mis olematud vajalikuselt robotisilmas... aah ei siin.. siin nii pole, kuid muidu kyll, arvuti nii vaatab neid asju suuresti tulevikus, peab arvestama
19 March 2018 02:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid Vahur vast suht igavusest need omamõtted kogematta uudistesse pani,
ennegi apsakaid juhtunud:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1556630664406421&set=p.1556630664406421&type=3&theater
ennegi apsakaid juhtunud:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1556630664406421&set=p.1556630664406421&type=3&theater
19 March 2018 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on Eerik N Kross's post.
Meil Riigis siin suur eliidivastalisus käib ju...
// Huvilistele //
Sellega seoses (nimesi nimetamatta, "nendest" ja "sellest") :
Maagia maailmas... (proovides selgitada)
ARVATAKSE, et Kõik mis tekitavad teatud allasurutud ja vihas olevates inimestes negatiivseid tundeid ja mõtteid kellegi suunas, toodab Eesmärki Nende poolt, kes väljavalitud - mitte punasemeelsusega inimeste osas sai selle olukorra tekitada. Kui kogematta tekkinud olukord - kasuks kasutatakse ikka!
Kui vigasi pole mille kallal võtta, siis võetakse plussid ja serveeritakse neid selliselt, et ikka suure rahvahulga saab ebahead nõrgestavat-sünergiat tootma panna (mul lihtsalt eip meeldi sõna "energia") ,
mis jooksvalt muude loovate häiritustega (Nagu pimesi-kodarasse-kaikaid pildudes), peaks pigem muud kui positiivselt mõjuma, uuringute, prognooside põhjal.
Mida tähtsamate inimeste selgemeelsust suudetakse kuidagi hägustada, seda kasulikum Neile kes sellest kasu saavad (iseenesest mõistetav)
Kui Eriti osavalt planeeritult, lastakse enne maavõrkudes teatud kuulujutud lahti, ka poodide taga ja baarideski, ning siis söödetakse peale kadedust tekitav või pilatav, milline iganes reaalne lugu meediast ja jälle on osale rahvale mingisugune ebameeldivus mälusse-teadmistesse söövitatud. Mis jääb pikemaks kui korraks toimetama.
// Riigimeedia kaitses, peaks inimeste list olema kõigil meediaasutustel, kelle nime peavoolu meediasse pannes oleks tundivalt soovitav inimestele enne märge anda. Vaimse kaitse ja sõnumitulva haldamisekski, hoolimiseks, austuseks. Mitte sõnavabaduse piiramiseks vms.//
Ja ega kõike käske ja signaale mida organiseeritakse, ei saa raadioteel kätte ka, (ehk panustama peab mitmesugustele info-kanalitele, mis samaaegselt saavad tiksuda)
kui Venelaste-Ameeriklaste enda uurimistöö paika peab, siis võimalik erinevatesse vaimuvaevustesse nakatunud inimestele saata "misijoone" kus nad asuvad keeleliselt erinevates elukeskkondades, jagama kellegivastast mustust, kuulujuttu, üleolevat või nõrgestavat kujutlust ja igasugune reaalne uudiste pärl on see mille kaudu lisainfo meeltesse salvestatakse info tagasikutsena. Lisaks paljule maisele, nähtamatutes ajutistes jutunurkades ja mängukeskondades.
¤¤
Mind lastud mõnele meeltele ligipääsemise treeningus käivatele inimestele päriselus ligi kes eri-ligipääsuga-treeningutel käisid varem idapiiritaga (seda asutust uurides, nägin selgelt, et see ida-Riiklik) kuid kelle sõstar-treeninglaagrid nüüd mitmete esoteeriliste klubide varjus siin edukalt ideoloogiat muutsid massiliselt paar aastat tagasi juba. Oluline sihtmärk oli ka äristruktuuridele ligipääsemine kas otseselt või läbi voolitud tööliste kellel ideaalne hariduslik taust.
Asjad mida idapiiri taga õpiti on keelatud jagada kuid vähese põhjal mis kuulda oli, tundus nagu ulmepõneviku superkangelaste ideaal unenägu ohtliku mitmekesise tõestamatu armee loomine. Kui see on pettus mis nendega tehakse, siis on see ikkagi alatu.
Kokkuvõttes nad uskuma pandud, et nad tuumasõjale mis nagunii varsti väga võimalik, pidavat vastu pidama kuna nad muudesse tasanditesse oma mateeria tõstnud. ..nüüd meenub, et Moslemi radikaal organisatsiooni inimestega kellega rääkinud, nad ka ütlesid, et nende org. tase selline, et Iimaam telepaatiliselt suheldakse. ...
Isegi igasugused "Matrix Energy", "Bio-Energy" kuni Reiki & Kristalliklubigi taoliste asjadeni.. üks asi milles väga veendunud oldi, et nende õpetus on selline, kus treenitu kõrgemas astmes, oma meelsusega teise ligi ainult olles, saad teise meelsuse ja mõtted muuta. Mõtteid / tundeid vast ka teisele saata, ... mu enda ajutine telepaatia ühendus kus nendega vestlesin, selles ei saa kindel aga olla, kas see oli midagi muud või reaalne SEE sama inimene, võttes arvesse jutu sisu ei söandanud päris elus üle küsida... ja ega nad ei vastaks kuidagi osavalt neil keelatud sellest rääkida võis siis tuttavad iseenda ja teistega.
Kogu see meedias täiesti tühja üles toomine ühesõnaga, saab olla ka muu paralleel tegevus, ja isegi kui algselt polnud nii plaanitud, arvestades, et seda saab - teoreetiliseltki, nii kasutada, siis tasub alati arvestada paar sammu, arvestada.
Kuid neid tulnukajutte kõike arvestades, oleks teine äärmus millega arvestama peab, hoopis raskemini hallatav
Selline kohene vastus, uudisele vastamine, juba ise on väga hea algus ja tegu, kaitsmaks ja tekitades olukorda kus kaitse läbi teiste inimeste tekib, kuid muidugi kõigel sellel üldse mingit tõepõhja on (esoteerilisel osal, need akadeemiad, boienergia jms on aga neil küll reaalsed..)
// Samas muidugi... ikka arvestame ka nii päris kui ka palgatud hulludega ning ka organiseeritud hulludega hullude hulgas saladuste peitmiseks..:
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/vol9no3/html/v09i3a09p_0001.htm
"to put it lightly.."
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab
// Huvilistele //
Sellega seoses (nimesi nimetamatta, "nendest" ja "sellest") :
Maagia maailmas... (proovides selgitada)
ARVATAKSE, et Kõik mis tekitavad teatud allasurutud ja vihas olevates inimestes negatiivseid tundeid ja mõtteid kellegi suunas, toodab Eesmärki Nende poolt, kes väljavalitud - mitte punasemeelsusega inimeste osas sai selle olukorra tekitada. Kui kogematta tekkinud olukord - kasuks kasutatakse ikka!
Kui vigasi pole mille kallal võtta, siis võetakse plussid ja serveeritakse neid selliselt, et ikka suure rahvahulga saab ebahead nõrgestavat-sünergiat tootma panna (mul lihtsalt eip meeldi sõna "energia") ,
mis jooksvalt muude loovate häiritustega (Nagu pimesi-kodarasse-kaikaid pildudes), peaks pigem muud kui positiivselt mõjuma, uuringute, prognooside põhjal.
Mida tähtsamate inimeste selgemeelsust suudetakse kuidagi hägustada, seda kasulikum Neile kes sellest kasu saavad (iseenesest mõistetav)
Kui Eriti osavalt planeeritult, lastakse enne maavõrkudes teatud kuulujutud lahti, ka poodide taga ja baarideski, ning siis söödetakse peale kadedust tekitav või pilatav, milline iganes reaalne lugu meediast ja jälle on osale rahvale mingisugune ebameeldivus mälusse-teadmistesse söövitatud. Mis jääb pikemaks kui korraks toimetama.
// Riigimeedia kaitses, peaks inimeste list olema kõigil meediaasutustel, kelle nime peavoolu meediasse pannes oleks tundivalt soovitav inimestele enne märge anda. Vaimse kaitse ja sõnumitulva haldamisekski, hoolimiseks, austuseks. Mitte sõnavabaduse piiramiseks vms.//
Ja ega kõike käske ja signaale mida organiseeritakse, ei saa raadioteel kätte ka, (ehk panustama peab mitmesugustele info-kanalitele, mis samaaegselt saavad tiksuda)
kui Venelaste-Ameeriklaste enda uurimistöö paika peab, siis võimalik erinevatesse vaimuvaevustesse nakatunud inimestele saata "misijoone" kus nad asuvad keeleliselt erinevates elukeskkondades, jagama kellegivastast mustust, kuulujuttu, üleolevat või nõrgestavat kujutlust ja igasugune reaalne uudiste pärl on see mille kaudu lisainfo meeltesse salvestatakse info tagasikutsena. Lisaks paljule maisele, nähtamatutes ajutistes jutunurkades ja mängukeskondades.
¤¤
Mind lastud mõnele meeltele ligipääsemise treeningus käivatele inimestele päriselus ligi kes eri-ligipääsuga-treeningutel käisid varem idapiiritaga (seda asutust uurides, nägin selgelt, et see ida-Riiklik) kuid kelle sõstar-treeninglaagrid nüüd mitmete esoteeriliste klubide varjus siin edukalt ideoloogiat muutsid massiliselt paar aastat tagasi juba. Oluline sihtmärk oli ka äristruktuuridele ligipääsemine kas otseselt või läbi voolitud tööliste kellel ideaalne hariduslik taust.
Asjad mida idapiiri taga õpiti on keelatud jagada kuid vähese põhjal mis kuulda oli, tundus nagu ulmepõneviku superkangelaste ideaal unenägu ohtliku mitmekesise tõestamatu armee loomine. Kui see on pettus mis nendega tehakse, siis on see ikkagi alatu.
Kokkuvõttes nad uskuma pandud, et nad tuumasõjale mis nagunii varsti väga võimalik, pidavat vastu pidama kuna nad muudesse tasanditesse oma mateeria tõstnud. ..nüüd meenub, et Moslemi radikaal organisatsiooni inimestega kellega rääkinud, nad ka ütlesid, et nende org. tase selline, et Iimaam telepaatiliselt suheldakse. ...
Isegi igasugused "Matrix Energy", "Bio-Energy" kuni Reiki & Kristalliklubigi taoliste asjadeni.. üks asi milles väga veendunud oldi, et nende õpetus on selline, kus treenitu kõrgemas astmes, oma meelsusega teise ligi ainult olles, saad teise meelsuse ja mõtted muuta. Mõtteid / tundeid vast ka teisele saata, ... mu enda ajutine telepaatia ühendus kus nendega vestlesin, selles ei saa kindel aga olla, kas see oli midagi muud või reaalne SEE sama inimene, võttes arvesse jutu sisu ei söandanud päris elus üle küsida... ja ega nad ei vastaks kuidagi osavalt neil keelatud sellest rääkida võis siis tuttavad iseenda ja teistega.
Kogu see meedias täiesti tühja üles toomine ühesõnaga, saab olla ka muu paralleel tegevus, ja isegi kui algselt polnud nii plaanitud, arvestades, et seda saab - teoreetiliseltki, nii kasutada, siis tasub alati arvestada paar sammu, arvestada.
Kuid neid tulnukajutte kõike arvestades, oleks teine äärmus millega arvestama peab, hoopis raskemini hallatav
Selline kohene vastus, uudisele vastamine, juba ise on väga hea algus ja tegu, kaitsmaks ja tekitades olukorda kus kaitse läbi teiste inimeste tekib, kuid muidugi kõigel sellel üldse mingit tõepõhja on (esoteerilisel osal, need akadeemiad, boienergia jms on aga neil küll reaalsed..)
// Samas muidugi... ikka arvestame ka nii päris kui ka palgatud hulludega ning ka organiseeritud hulludega hullude hulgas saladuste peitmiseks..:
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/vol9no3/html/v09i3a09p_0001.htm
"to put it lightly.."
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/vol9no3/html/v09i3a09p_0001.htm
19 March 2018 02:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Raputusi muidki, enamus on suudetud õnneks uudistest eemal hoida
19 March 2018 02:18
Margus Meigo replied to Peep Võrno's comment.
Mu perel oli ka eriligipääs teatud aegadel koopiamasinale ja siis igast huvitavaid asju sai tehtud...
Sõjaväekomisarjaadis vahetati N.Liitu värbamise propakanda lehed stendil mudetud infoga kus teavitati N-liidu organisatsiooni kuritegelikusest (mida siis järjekorras olijad väga pikka aega said lugeda, enne kui keegi punane lõpuks selle säält avastas.
Tänapäeval suht raske ette kujutada, et ..
Ja siis ka sellel ajastul liialt hooletult jäätakse palju salvestamata ja kopeerimata (isegi vana kirjandust), ning loodetakse pilve koopiatele..ning alatisele kasvavale lõputule muretule ohtudeta tulevikule.
Sõjaväekomisarjaadis vahetati N.Liitu värbamise propakanda lehed stendil mudetud infoga kus teavitati N-liidu organisatsiooni kuritegelikusest (mida siis järjekorras olijad väga pikka aega said lugeda, enne kui keegi punane lõpuks selle säält avastas.
Tänapäeval suht raske ette kujutada, et ..
Ja siis ka sellel ajastul liialt hooletult jäätakse palju salvestamata ja kopeerimata (isegi vana kirjandust), ning loodetakse pilve koopiatele..ning alatisele kasvavale lõputule muretule ohtudeta tulevikule.
19 March 2018 00:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// kahju,et saade jäi märkimatta
19 March 2018 00:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
//see visioon oliseotud millegagi, et ... ta võttis sobraliku austusega ja kirjeldas Putinit hästi kuid ta oma enda suunas sellist progressi ei saanud teiseltpoolt,
kuigi tal oleks olnud öelda palju muud ebahead, jäi aumehelikumaks öeldes head... kuid oleks pidnaud suts vürtsi ka lisama
kuigi tal oleks olnud öelda palju muud ebahead, jäi aumehelikumaks öeldes head... kuid oleks pidnaud suts vürtsi ka lisama
19 March 2018 00:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Soovitus meedias oli inimestele st
19 March 2018 00:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see "new hope" osa eriti üleliigne, oleks pidnaud infoga visiooni aeg selle sisse trükkima, tähenduses
19 March 2018 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Teisest reaalsusest vaadates, (praegune meelsus tavaliseks igapäevaks / selgeks praktilisuse suunaks).
siis kohe suurt midagi ei vea välja siit ..
Nii sai oma arust nibin nabin need mõtte nurgad sisse kantud mille seest mõte oleks pidanud läbinisti loetav olema.. kuid kohe kuidagi eip ole.. H,mm..
siis kohe suurt midagi ei vea välja siit ..
Nii sai oma arust nibin nabin need mõtte nurgad sisse kantud mille seest mõte oleks pidanud läbinisti loetav olema.. kuid kohe kuidagi eip ole.. H,mm..
19 March 2018 00:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
jah, meeldivad sõnalõpud selliselt
19 March 2018 00:26
Margus Meigo replied to miu miu miu's comment.
siis tuleb vast padjasõda sinnapaika jätta
19 March 2018 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on Väino Põllumäe's post.
Muust vaatevinklist vaadatuna, see peaaegu, et strateegiline rajatis oli planeeritud hävitamaks: keskkonda, inimeste heameelsust, välist imagot ja investeeringuid mis Tartul olemata jääks kui õhust tunda on masendust.... Ühesõnaga Eesti Vastane relv.
18 March 2018 23:58
Margus Meigo commented on Evelin Eikner's post.
Põnev
18 March 2018 23:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lihtsalt, sellepärast, et kui tarvis oleks ka vaja solvata, kuidas siis need seadused on.. ja standardid inimilmas praegu,
mida milleks tasub
mida milleks tasub
18 March 2018 23:21
Margus Meigo commented on Hillar Kohv's post.
Group: Hillar Kohvi grupp
Palvetame, et kunagi ta jõuame endale osta, et saaks meedia õiges suunas toimima panna18 March 2018 23:11
Margus Meigo commented on Hillar Kohv's post.
Group: Hillar Kohvi grupp
Pole ime kui Tiigrikutsu laulja ka sari pedofiili eeskujuna auhindasi saama hakkaks18 March 2018 23:04
Margus Meigo commented on Hillar Kohv's post.
Group: Hillar Kohvi grupp
Seegi hea, kahju, et ETV samal ajal oma standardit paar korda alandas18 March 2018 22:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
same time this is retared..
i did not find nothing funny here but made me sad there is people who find it funny.. and are so unsmart or arrogant, that them film it, for others to see
//ei leidnud miskit naljakat siin videost, kurb, et naerdi, hea näide nendest kestadest, 3 levinud vigast vaimu tüüpi, kelle koige välimusd ka seda kajastab, imeline kuidas näo ilme profiilimine paika peab.. samamoodi naervad ja tunnevad ka suurem osa muid kes node tüüpide sarnased, need on need mas stheastes karpides valmis tehtud versioonid.
Kuid eks ka nende kohta peab ütlema, ikkagi inimesed(räägime siis neist kes arvutitaga)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYnAQ3Gy5vE
// proect taolistele südametunnistusele koputmaiseks
i did not find nothing funny here but made me sad there is people who find it funny.. and are so unsmart or arrogant, that them film it, for others to see
//ei leidnud miskit naljakat siin videost, kurb, et naerdi, hea näide nendest kestadest, 3 levinud vigast vaimu tüüpi, kelle koige välimusd ka seda kajastab, imeline kuidas näo ilme profiilimine paika peab.. samamoodi naervad ja tunnevad ka suurem osa muid kes node tüüpide sarnased, need on need mas stheastes karpides valmis tehtud versioonid.
Kuid eks ka nende kohta peab ütlema, ikkagi inimesed(räägime siis neist kes arvutitaga)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYnAQ3Gy5vE
// proect taolistele südametunnistusele koputmaiseks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYnAQ3Gy5vE
18 March 2018 22:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See dude ikka leiab neid leide
17 ... & ... need võivad ka need teised olendid olla,
"yala! D. sucking problem in a world.:!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG1bB-nztOk
17 ... & ... need võivad ka need teised olendid olla,
"yala! D. sucking problem in a world.:!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG1bB-nztOk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG1bB-nztOk
18 March 2018 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
a bit pink gey'ish African man will try to understand Western new age a bit feministic woman
(sorry)
Try to look that whit out cry or laught
But strong well.., pro's for being so open about it all, in internet.
Amazing world
//Totally random find
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9JwmB7tdaw
And in here.. these kind of things, almoust reach to the end of Creativity, in relation how to help
(sorry)
Try to look that whit out cry or laught
But strong well.., pro's for being so open about it all, in internet.
Amazing world
//Totally random find
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9JwmB7tdaw
And in here.. these kind of things, almoust reach to the end of Creativity, in relation how to help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9JwmB7tdaw
18 March 2018 22:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ai kaks korda,
Sellist teatrit ei saa teistkorda kohale ka tellida,
Arrgh
Sini kollastest kuni real life Minzkinid ja tegelased
Sellist teatrit ei saa teistkorda kohale ka tellida,
Arrgh
Sini kollastest kuni real life Minzkinid ja tegelased
18 March 2018 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei saa enam laivi usaldada... läks kaotsi eri tegelasega kohtumised, politsei trall tegelastega hja palju muud .. nu mida asja
18 March 2018 20:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
nu FAKK see teistkorda
18 March 2018 20:13
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
motiivi teamdiseks peaks haldama ka erinevate poolte, ideloogiaid ja meetoteid, võimalusi ja vajadusi
18 March 2018 17:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid yeah, siin on mitu asja ühes. see, et reklaamitakse almumistesse ja ülemsitesse kihtidesse võimu, organiste saamatust isegi kui on testust ja siis lopuks õpetus, kuidas uisapäisa süüdistades saab sundida süüdistajaid vabandama, kui tarvis
18 March 2018 17:21
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
kahjuks browser katkestas laivi kui selle Minimizisin/Alandasin ... :(
hea teema läks kaotsi
hea teema läks kaotsi
18 March 2018 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
hea asi laks kaotsi
18 March 2018 16:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
niikui brwsery arra paned nullib laivi, nu on loogika
18 March 2018 16:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ega Rooma impeerium pole Hiinat kunagi lõplikult vallutanud, hinges
//tundus nii, et vaja öelda
//tundus nii, et vaja öelda
18 March 2018 16:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Toomas Sirge Ooh.. egas need kes meit väärtused röövisid, need ise paneme endale need tagasi tooma
18 March 2018 16:14
Margus Meigo replied to Angei Joy's comment.
But someone told, it is like Birthday for V. Putin,
But eventually, Tsar rule should be restored,
also better for farmers
But eventually, Tsar rule should be restored,
also better for farmers
18 March 2018 07:21
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
seega ebapraktiline mu suhtes oleks armukadedus, raiskaks aega ja ei aitaks keskenduda sellsite asjadega tegeleda
Kuigi muidu võiks seda armsana ja "mida iganes vaja" moodusel korda teha mis iganes mured on, kuid praeguses olukorras oleks see lihtsalt alatu mu suhtes armukade kellelgi olla, selles elus
sest kõik mida ma teaks ja mida naine teada soovib seda ta teaks ka
Kuigi muidu võiks seda armsana ja "mida iganes vaja" moodusel korda teha mis iganes mured on, kuid praeguses olukorras oleks see lihtsalt alatu mu suhtes armukade kellelgi olla, selles elus
sest kõik mida ma teaks ja mida naine teada soovib seda ta teaks ka
18 March 2018 06:24
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
kuid yeah, egas sellepärast teisega käimesest abi pole, et see kes toda asja uurib hoopis olulist mida vaja üldse ei näe pimestatult ju
18 March 2018 06:22
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
siis kui valmis pole lõpp
18 March 2018 06:21
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
soovitavalt Eestimaist
nu Elutõõ lõpuks ikkagi
nu Elutõõ lõpuks ikkagi
18 March 2018 06:20
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
nu ma sooviks kontrollivat kui mitte armukadedat(usaldavat) kes sedasi jõukas , et passima ei peaks
18 March 2018 06:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
et teleekraani pinda moistikult kasutama peaks
18 March 2018 06:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nu näiteks, saab Spiooni gaasi loo teha sedasi, et
siis peab Maailm Vabandama, uisapäisa süüdistamise eest,
olgugi, et see lugu omakorda opetuseks võis olla orkrestreeritud,
Kuid Opetuseks,
Meie enda omandiga,
siis peab Maailm Vabandama, uisapäisa süüdistamise eest,
olgugi, et see lugu omakorda opetuseks võis olla orkrestreeritud,
Kuid Opetuseks,
Meie enda omandiga,
18 March 2018 06:07
Margus Meigo commented on Levo Tohva's photo.
Päris Duuz
18 March 2018 05:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid Sa väga huvitatud näoga ka,
Kuid kas postitus meeldis või idee osas märku andes?
Kuid kas postitus meeldis või idee osas märku andes?
18 March 2018 05:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Maarja, Nu näed, Sina ainuke kell Meeldib
18 March 2018 05:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Me Eesti Facebok, on ikka Marinaadis
18 March 2018 05:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Janno, tere!:)
18 March 2018 05:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui omal ,mees oelmas siis loomulikult ei sobi teiisi suudelda enam jms
18 March 2018 05:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vaid vastavalt oma väärikusele Ainult
18 March 2018 05:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja näitlejad eii pea, EI pea näitlema mida öeldakse
18 March 2018 05:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see nali ei ole sobilik, kuigi on ka
18 March 2018 05:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aa .. re-porter
Pakase näpistmaise lugu netist ka vana hea
Pakase näpistmaise lugu netist ka vana hea
18 March 2018 05:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
among them self
18 March 2018 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
my networking system will take care to save and guard every original development platform that has been made and make it working inside All, ecxsept the kind of ones like Netwotrk21 OR PedoInformationExchange Network
// But there is always hope, there is good Side ,that will try to Save, dark magicians
// But there is always hope, there is good Side ,that will try to Save, dark magicians
18 March 2018 04:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and many ways ... will try to keep alive as big and large piece as possiible
//
//
18 March 2018 04:56
Margus Meigo replied to Angei Joy's comment.
But other then that, not really know why, just know it is good
18 March 2018 04:50
Margus Meigo replied to Angei Joy's comment.
But yes, it is , nice date, that is marked for Birthday, year is good and Date one of the perfect
18 March 2018 04:48
Margus Meigo replied to Angei Joy's comment.
oh, srry, wrong reply
18 March 2018 04:47
Margus Meigo replied to Angei Joy's comment.
18 March 2018 04:46
Margus Meigo replied to Jurij Alimoff's comment.
i like strawberries, the ydoing good
as long they not strawberyfields
as long they not strawberyfields
18 March 2018 04:43
Margus Meigo replied to Jurij Alimoff's comment.
Communists has been the Money Owners Allalaong, other, real people had Real Values/Worths
18 March 2018 04:41
Margus Meigo replied to Jurij Alimoff's comment.
Basically, if someone would belive, that Putin stand for Communism, then we can say, America Elected Communism Party meber for World Position,
Maybe as Droid to set things safe way in order
// This was all still meant as positive
Maybe as Droid to set things safe way in order
// This was all still meant as positive
18 March 2018 04:39
Margus Meigo replied to Jurij Alimoff's comment.
..
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10212233778336377/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab
18 March 2018 04:37
Margus Meigo replied to Jurij Alimoff's comment.
And only this way, was it possible, that, fro mout of Love, owned Trump, to save it from Aliens
Russia's duo t.A.T.u.
Russia's duo t.A.T.u.
18 March 2018 04:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jurij Alimoff Can not "Амфетамин"
18 March 2018 04:34
Margus Meigo replied to Jurij Alimoff's comment.
Basically, if someone would belive, that Putin stand for Communism, then we can say, America Elected Communism Party meber for World Position,
Maybe as Droid to set things safe way in order
Maybe as Droid to set things safe way in order
18 March 2018 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to Jurij Alimoff's comment.
Jurij Alimoff well, it is not so far, to say that USA Elected Putin for them self before Russia did
18 March 2018 04:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Also For election, but please, say that China Trend is Now New European value Norm
European Union - EU
Estonia, The faundation of (of this , that someone made me a space to write all that // would be to much revealing, if that kind of thing ever can be, anythiing other, then Chasing reallity,
But in comminication of any orgnaisation soul... (if in TV Norms any coutry has legal Hole, that ANY Service Provider can Demand ANY Sexual Content on ANY SIRCUMSTANCE anything butthem self if they are on Legislation level ))
Soul Speaking)
European Union - EU
Estonia, The faundation of (of this , that someone made me a space to write all that // would be to much revealing, if that kind of thing ever can be, anythiing other, then Chasing reallity,
But in comminication of any orgnaisation soul... (if in TV Norms any coutry has legal Hole, that ANY Service Provider can Demand ANY Sexual Content on ANY SIRCUMSTANCE anything butthem self if they are on Legislation level ))
Soul Speaking)
18 March 2018 04:30
Margus Meigo replied to Jurij Alimoff's comment.
it is only logical as the merryage also, is possible to use to join unjoinable at first sight in all matters
18 March 2018 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to Jurij Alimoff's comment.
Well, that is when China and USA mainly will allow me to Do it
18 March 2018 04:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tal Buratino nii püsti, et ei saanud Laulus öelduna aru, et Sick" mis tal öldi oli täapäeval kiitus juba
Kuid see vb Amerika häbistamiseks tehtud
Kuid see vb Amerika häbistamiseks tehtud
18 March 2018 04:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nartsisismi laul on ka hulllus
18 March 2018 04:20
Margus Meigo replied to Jurij Alimoff's comment.
Jurij Alimoff There will be, as the China, AND USA Will join,
And my own , All their services will be integrated, and recorded
And my own , All their services will be integrated, and recorded
18 March 2018 04:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But i am after Estonia Women, so lets keep it strickly Business
18 March 2018 04:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
18 March 2018 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on Angei Joy's photo.
Best one
18 March 2018 03:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
my english is like Google Translator, but it is Better then No translator Or hope at all
18 March 2018 03:52
Margus Meigo commented on Angei Joy's post.
Mobster indeed,
Hey, Lets hope Vladim gets a Greeting & Feeling nice
Hey, Lets hope Vladim gets a Greeting & Feeling nice
18 March 2018 03:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Väga vähe on ni Võimsaid kes suutnud minuga suhtlusesse ja sõprusesse jääda, aegadel selliste..L
18 March 2018 03:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ajalookulgu saab muuta ka ÜKS Eesti KirjaTäht, Pidage meeles
18 March 2018 03:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See võib tõesti tõsi olla ja peaaeagu abielluks ise sellise reklaami taga olevat Naisega.
Kui küsitakse, kui pisukeseks vihjeks oleks vaja millesisu juba saab potensiaalselt väga heaaks pidada mis piisab,
Kuid need kellele piisan ja soovigu see kes soovib andes teada pidevalt kuni lootust antakse
//ainult erijuhtudel uuesti uurida, kas sobilik on, kuid mitte alati
---
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Kui küsitakse, kui pisukeseks vihjeks oleks vaja millesisu juba saab potensiaalselt väga heaaks pidada mis piisab,
Kuid need kellele piisan ja soovigu see kes soovib andes teada pidevalt kuni lootust antakse
//ainult erijuhtudel uuesti uurida, kas sobilik on, kuid mitte alati
---
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Magneesiumkloriidi helbed - parim magneesiumi puuduse leevendamiseks jalavannide kaudu!
sinuleloodud@gmail.com
Tel.53735958
18 March 2018 03:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Neile kes selleks Loodud Sinule
18 March 2018 03:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mind paneb Strugle/vaev mugavusTsooni või kinniolemise faasi, millest pole aega vaev see kes enamasti pääseb/päästab, õpetab ikka jah, neid kes taluvad, kuid
Ohjad on vaja Kätte anda
Ohjad on vaja Kätte anda
18 March 2018 03:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
edited
18 March 2018 03:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Siiani
18 March 2018 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kuid sonum ise, Suuremale sõbrale
18 March 2018 03:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vb oli mngimuu uue aja vana telefon
18 March 2018 03:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// eip see eip maters, eeldatavasti . Aga siin ilmas palju võib materdada, seega Tasub nokia 225 ed v need olematu kaameraga , hankida ja igaksjuhuks kõik audio mis seotud teiste eludega, endale ka sellest kindustus peab olema
18 March 2018 03:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tegelikult otsisin netti, kuid see ka väga õige pakkumine, Mis ütlesid Naise osas,
Mehel üldiselt ongi nii, et mida lühem tee Niae juurd,e seda Õigem
Mehel üldiselt ongi nii, et mida lühem tee Niae juurd,e seda Õigem
18 March 2018 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
18 March 2018 03:37
Margus Meigo replied to Jurij Alimoff's comment.
18 March 2018 03:28
Margus Meigo replied to Jurij Alimoff's comment.
You Good ?
18 March 2018 03:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but matters who really is and will be in ,
respectvul way on times, when any beings walks in our minds
respectvul way on times, when any beings walks in our minds
18 March 2018 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
7. oktoober 1952
Nace, Nice Date, was that astrologically choosen ?
Who knoWs, but fact is factr, i start to make panKackes as muncies can not be shamed, even when You President just in Peoples sake, as You not trust them to understand ,the need to brogres on what China beat You
// In football terms, but that sounds to badly lame, and explains true interaction nearly None but who got first,
Nace, Nice Date, was that astrologically choosen ?
Who knoWs, but fact is factr, i start to make panKackes as muncies can not be shamed, even when You President just in Peoples sake, as You not trust them to understand ,the need to brogres on what China beat You
// In football terms, but that sounds to badly lame, and explains true interaction nearly None but who got first,
18 March 2018 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi, pole oluline,
kuid olulisem, et oleks , orgnaisatsioon, et igaühe naisel oleks võimalus koheselt reageerida absoluutse võimuga kui selles osas minig veategemine on
kuid olulisem, et oleks , orgnaisatsioon, et igaühe naisel oleks võimalus koheselt reageerida absoluutse võimuga kui selles osas minig veategemine on
18 March 2018 03:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mis Nad Laveerivad sääl?
18 March 2018 03:14
Margus Meigo replied to Jurij Alimoff's comment.
Do not be sorry, but how this knowing helps You ?
18 March 2018 03:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu see pole vahet, , PEAB olema sedasi, et MILLAL iganes, nädala jooksul tuleb Sünd, siis peba olema sünni maja,
Kui nii tiheda asustusega, et iga kuus, enamustel nädalatel on sünd, siis pole üldse küsimust ja tuleb sünnitusmaja elushoidmiseks hoida, elus,
muudses kohtades tihedamini opetada viks kodus sünnitamist, mida soovitaks ka linnas elavatele maainimstele,
Kui nii tiheda asustusega, et iga kuus, enamustel nädalatel on sünd, siis pole üldse küsimust ja tuleb sünnitusmaja elushoidmiseks hoida, elus,
muudses kohtades tihedamini opetada viks kodus sünnitamist, mida soovitaks ka linnas elavatele maainimstele,
18 March 2018 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
// Kohalikud sulgevad minig asja sulgemise vastu
18 March 2018 03:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
someone who they look as their family,
18 March 2018 03:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
18 March 2018 02:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
viimane maine amps lausest
18 March 2018 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuigi see siin on kõik eeldatavasti Väga hea,
siis ma lihtsalt hoitan, et edaspidi sedais vaatama peaksime hakkama, mis ideoloogiliselt viisakas ja mõistlikum lõptulemuseni jõudmiseks on..
Kui juba teha, siis kohe koi kaadressid ümber regustreerida ja maakohtadesse sätida kos maainiemstele seletates, et potensiaalsete tulnukate ja linnaiinimeste maaelusse pöörmaise katse käib ja kes soovib tulgu maisti või hoitku eemale ja eelkõige näidake ka kätte kus kohalikud riiukukid on, need kes ka heade vastu Kät tõstavad või naiste, ilma, et viimane reaalne HingetuNõid ... kuid ka siis teiste silmailuks tuleks nii ilusasti käituda kui teavad targemad olema võimalik selles olukorras, kuid piiripeal hoides ka opetades, et voib ka sellest piirist edsi keegi teine minna, et mis hullusega tegeled, naine ?
siis ma lihtsalt hoitan, et edaspidi sedais vaatama peaksime hakkama, mis ideoloogiliselt viisakas ja mõistlikum lõptulemuseni jõudmiseks on..
Kui juba teha, siis kohe koi kaadressid ümber regustreerida ja maakohtadesse sätida kos maainiemstele seletates, et potensiaalsete tulnukate ja linnaiinimeste maaelusse pöörmaise katse käib ja kes soovib tulgu maisti või hoitku eemale ja eelkõige näidake ka kätte kus kohalikud riiukukid on, need kes ka heade vastu Kät tõstavad või naiste, ilma, et viimane reaalne HingetuNõid ... kuid ka siis teiste silmailuks tuleks nii ilusasti käituda kui teavad targemad olema võimalik selles olukorras, kuid piiripeal hoides ka opetades, et voib ka sellest piirist edsi keegi teine minna, et mis hullusega tegeled, naine ?
18 March 2018 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuideelkõige koostööse elude elamises
18 March 2018 02:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Teie metsa grupis ka, loodan, et see on see mis ma loodan, et Täiesti päästmatu päästmiseks kes ainult üldse linnas olles kohale tulekski ainult sinna, kes taolises tasemes kes koos kõigi enamustega sauna varem või hiljem koos
18 March 2018 02:48
Margus Meigo commented on Linda-Mari Väli's post.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
oih, vabandust18 March 2018 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
It is totally Good, to understand, that man Souls can Communicate with Easchother in Thoughts as well so Keep in Cooperation
18 March 2018 02:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(ps Jätkake Koopiate tegemist. )
18 March 2018 02:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
m83
18 March 2018 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
bought, but spesially dude, taking in to acccount world connection level and dimension what Was coming to people with eachother
18 March 2018 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But who is on hurrry to make assumption them have authority to feel rebelious Anger,
before they know with this kind is many ways Safer and not need this what can be justified totally on Totally diferent Situations, in anothers man ... ... well and then God for sake, after one cleans a woman, them you must pray good not to interfair but help just in case a bit in hopes that dude is for real, even thoiught itis strange, that one is not in contact with me
before they know with this kind is many ways Safer and not need this what can be justified totally on Totally diferent Situations, in anothers man ... ... well and then God for sake, after one cleans a woman, them you must pray good not to interfair but help just in case a bit in hopes that dude is for real, even thoiught itis strange, that one is not in contact with me
18 March 2018 02:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but top of that not honest also?
18 March 2018 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
anyway, and i my self, beid whit another kind of mind, not even able to write them back as they kind of people who then Block when You try to respond to them in near level but honestly, about other side
18 March 2018 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but instead, my personal Love matters, related to Cheese is more important, as always, logical even on Createst stranger respect and self best position
18 March 2018 02:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sorry Bros.. i SHould talk about This whatwas Your important Matter related to, Them Not Treating me Nice and They as Excetutive position on these kind of level Group that is Main Center of Internet Estonia islamists
18 March 2018 02:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
In English :
Mo : And Other Who rather be With Allah then anyone else, Know, my
... Defination of islamist is Correct, i say, for schangoing the story corner, in to a coOperation understanding
Or coOperation Understanding
// We can integrate Coperatives who already have been thinking of ...
Oh yes.. to think about, the Cheese factory worker, job in the end of day can be better then.... When they invest their time to put good in to materia , and then this materia go... to ...
... well, this way , am worry, many times my self,
That..
Mo : And Other Who rather be With Allah then anyone else, Know, my
... Defination of islamist is Correct, i say, for schangoing the story corner, in to a coOperation understanding
Or coOperation Understanding
// We can integrate Coperatives who already have been thinking of ...
Oh yes.. to think about, the Cheese factory worker, job in the end of day can be better then.... When they invest their time to put good in to materia , and then this materia go... to ...
... well, this way , am worry, many times my self,
That..
18 March 2018 02:18
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professor inimtase ka , Ka see Kanal
18 March 2018 02:14
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Peale Salemi nõidu nagu , on poole sammu kaudu alla läinud ja samas ika alumise taseme suuremaks tasemeks jäänud, Hmmmm.. ikka kasuks tulnud , see et aega sedasi m
18 March 2018 02:13
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Miks KODUMAA sarja alguses selline märk lubati ekraanile ?
Meie keel ja asjad koos igad asjad ei oel Riiklikult lubatud, meiekeels ölda muud kui õigust
Meie keel ja asjad koos igad asjad ei oel Riiklikult lubatud, meiekeels ölda muud kui õigust
18 March 2018 02:12
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Kas teadsid miks rotid maapeal on,
ega nad Valgusearmastajad pole, kuid mis häda teil nende Hiirtega on, kes võivad rotide söömaks jääda pikaks ajaks täies mahus mitte iault kuulise ettemääratud koguses, et dimensioonide vahelist rahu hoida
ega nad Valgusearmastajad pole, kuid mis häda teil nende Hiirtega on, kes võivad rotide söömaks jääda pikaks ajaks täies mahus mitte iault kuulise ettemääratud koguses, et dimensioonide vahelist rahu hoida
18 March 2018 02:10
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õiglus on Heasuunaline
18 March 2018 02:07
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kelle laps teab kelle ema ... ei seda enam ei küsita, vaid seda, et riigi kõrgeimates strutuurides on kõik va mõned avalikud saladused, Likvideerikud kes Naiat kimbutab
Kasvõi Hypnoosis hoides või oma enda liigiks nimetavate omandite peal soovides otsustada mida , pole sünnis soovida, //seega õiglu on Heasuunaline
Kasvõi Hypnoosis hoides või oma enda liigiks nimetavate omandite peal soovides otsustada mida , pole sünnis soovida, //seega õiglu on Heasuunaline
18 March 2018 02:07
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E-nesekaitseks ka
Enesekaitseks
tuleb alluda vahest, naised oppinud Ellujääma ja millele mehed motlevad, etmis projektidega liituda ja millises väes olla?
Kes on essa tegemaks kodukaitseVäe?
Enesekaitseks
tuleb alluda vahest, naised oppinud Ellujääma ja millele mehed motlevad, etmis projektidega liituda ja millises väes olla?
Kes on essa tegemaks kodukaitseVäe?
18 March 2018 02:05
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See on küll täielikult Maameeste kaelas, siin pole minigt Küsimust /isegi siis kui on/alustusesks (kaks viimast mõtet pole olulised)
18 March 2018 02:03
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Naitab ka kuidas viimases aus on Naised ka Kõrgeimad sunnitud abielluma, sest maamehed slelise olukorra tienud on kus nad saavad ohus olla
18 March 2018 02:03
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ka hästi
18 March 2018 02:00
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aa jumal hoiaks, ned on odini oinaga ka koostöös, umbes sellega keda eelmises Nõiafilmis see Naine viimases hädas kireldama idi ... kireldades kurba saatust, staatust mida mingi naine on sunnitud tundma ja kogema
18 March 2018 02:00
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segi siis kui nad head teevad, on nad pahas vaimus, sellsied tuleb peatada
18 March 2018 01:59
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Teate kuidas täisi võita, Nnedega koostööd tehes nmeid mittte tappes ja lastes esimestelmida näed koostöös minna, arusaamaks ka osade õnnettute täiNaiste saaatust..
..kui seda enam sünnis kireldada on Bioloogias,
Mul nende teadus ala komuune siin ka likes oli kes sellest huvitatud võiks olla, BioTehnologiapsyholoogia
..kui seda enam sünnis kireldada on Bioloogias,
Mul nende teadus ala komuune siin ka likes oli kes sellest huvitatud võiks olla, BioTehnologiapsyholoogia
18 March 2018 01:58
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(igathaes, lopus sain neti ja aaja olukorra yleslaadimiseks, ja siis nüüd see YT ele ei sobi, mu filmid, viimane asi veel muudan nende nimed, pannes sidekriipsud taha,vms, vaatamaks, kas siis võtab)
18 March 2018 01:57
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(Kuna ma veel pole kindel, idellooogia olemasolus,t mida nad edasi näitavad, kas See on see Tõepärane, Koos selgitamaks miks need Raseeritud peadega tyybid selle eba Normaalse meesVärdiga koostööd tegid ja arutlesid nagu unustuses, koostöös olles, )
18 March 2018 01:55
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näitamaks osasi potensiaalseid isiksuste õpetamise omaloomulist opetust
18 March 2018 01:54
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Päris häid asju, selles Rooma impeeriumi filmis
18 March 2018 01:53
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18 March 2018 01:50
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/pause
18 March 2018 01:49
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(motlen ise viimase peale, kesteab, k... )
// Oih, ma osades juttudes elus millest rääkima poleks pidnaud olen ka rääkinud, eriti hoogu sattudes päriselu juttudes, kes teab ... .... ... .. kuidas selle reaalsus netist lahti saada, käib mu järgi ja määrab mu reaalsust selle suunaliseks ,et see vimmane loogiline asi,
// Oih, ma osades juttudes elus millest rääkima poleks pidnaud olen ka rääkinud, eriti hoogu sattudes päriselu juttudes, kes teab ... .... ... .. kuidas selle reaalsus netist lahti saada, käib mu järgi ja määrab mu reaalsust selle suunaliseks ,et see vimmane loogiline asi,
18 March 2018 01:49
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see inimese ülesanne ka mitmetmpiti
18 March 2018 01:47
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aga arvestades kui võimsad väärjõud neile ligi pääsevad võivadnad okresteerida mingit olendit kellel üleloomulikud jõud, töötama masinate heaeaks, ja nad erivõimetega inimesed pahaks teinud kes saab need vahe lülid mida masinaga kontroliiks ei jätku, täita
18 March 2018 01:47
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nende korvatagant raseeeritutega see viga, et nad on nõus väärhomodega läbikäima, need kes ennast arenenuks peavad
18 March 2018 01:46
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kuid jah, mul ple aega yt errotitega jamada, kui ei saa üleslaadida,
ja et mul pole see asjaasi valmsi saanud sest pole suutnud nedale sopru leida veel maailmas kes muude soprade tasemega uuesti suhtlusesse astumiseks peaks
ja et mul pole see asjaasi valmsi saanud sest pole suutnud nedale sopru leida veel maailmas kes muude soprade tasemega uuesti suhtlusesse astumiseks peaks
18 March 2018 01:43
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ma oleks nii onnelik kui mone... kujutate ette maailma, kus inimeneelab, kus reaalselt polegi kedagi, neti ajastul kes seda teaks ja arusaaks ning oleks võimelised liituma või olukorra osas midagi tegema,
Kuid koik meie oma vahel tegelikult saame läbi
Kuid koik meie oma vahel tegelikult saame läbi
18 March 2018 01:42
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aga kui filsooofia legaliseeritakse kus inimesed hüpnoositult korraga veendakse mineviku hävitmaisega, ja näitamaks neile, et see oelks nag uajsa lahendus,
tegelt inieste juured siis lähevad,
kiilakatk imoodi, ei imestaks:D
Vihuti, et kui juba, rahuajal ikka karva kasvatakse, kuid siis arusaamad tulevad, kellegsa, siiin maailmas olnud oled, kui sa just sellepärast kasvatama eip akanud, et ....said tunda või teada, et nii on, eelkõige //
// Kuid loogilise viadusega suured mustad jõud saavad iniesi ju sumra moista, ükskõik kui head sõnaotseses mõistes, //kes enda au päästmiseks olukorra ootamtu suuna keermaiseks, just midagi erihullu ette võtaks õigesti, mis vaatpilti väärt piisavalt, et vaatemängu tegijad sellega ise kaasa tulid ja ikka neile äratehti ka siis kui tunti, et võideti, vist
tegelt inieste juured siis lähevad,
kiilakatk imoodi, ei imestaks:D
Vihuti, et kui juba, rahuajal ikka karva kasvatakse, kuid siis arusaamad tulevad, kellegsa, siiin maailmas olnud oled, kui sa just sellepärast kasvatama eip akanud, et ....said tunda või teada, et nii on, eelkõige //
// Kuid loogilise viadusega suured mustad jõud saavad iniesi ju sumra moista, ükskõik kui head sõnaotseses mõistes, //kes enda au päästmiseks olukorra ootamtu suuna keermaiseks, just midagi erihullu ette võtaks õigesti, mis vaatpilti väärt piisavalt, et vaatemängu tegijad sellega ise kaasa tulid ja ikka neile äratehti ka siis kui tunti, et võideti, vist
18 March 2018 01:40
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kui keegi mu facebooki konto täis sisu, mis allalaetava failina on üle 5 GM varsti/ammu...
18 March 2018 01:37
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see oleks nii mugav kui ma ise ei peaks üleliia vaeva nägema kogu koopia säilitamiseks
18 March 2018 01:36
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loodetavasti linkisin õigesti, ega eip tea ka mida kunagi keegi teine kellegi tekstist näeb ja kas samas arusaama kanalis ollakse, vabaduseks
18 March 2018 01:34
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18 March 2018 01:33
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18 March 2018 01:33
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sedasi errorid on yt's juba nii päevast, nii teise browseri.. ,, ah
18 March 2018 01:33
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okey selle totraArengusuuunaga Raseeritud pea kultuuri kaasamise ajastu, ja muud jõud mida tutvustatakse, Tavaiimeste läbi...
siiis see sedapidi ka hästi hea täisulikult, vabandust kui ...
Keegi vandus "vittu" ekraanil just ... Roooma imperiui filmis 10:32 // selles maailmas naitvad Naise kaubnaudst mida nende noidade jms ajastul tehti, mida Ühiskond pandi lopuks taluma
siiis see sedapidi ka hästi hea täisulikult, vabandust kui ...
Keegi vandus "vittu" ekraanil just ... Roooma imperiui filmis 10:32 // selles maailmas naitvad Naise kaubnaudst mida nende noidade jms ajastul tehti, mida Ühiskond pandi lopuks taluma
18 March 2018 01:32
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lihtsalt ühest knalist hoopis eise inimkanali jutu tasandile ka olulises reaalsuses, mida omamoodi saaab lugeda, kirjedades aga,
18 March 2018 01:25
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Mis sugune maindset iissssiss elementaarne miinimum naguinii oleks
18 March 2018 01:25
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kaitse, jumalikus versioonmis kuid neist tasemetest // Heade endi sees on murdumatud valikud, kes ise head algusest lopuni kuid loodud ainult yhe maailma pairmaks suunaks, aga suund muutnud heaks, st korda saanud, siiiis osad head... nemad ... nemad hea korda saades, enal ei vaja seda suunda,
siis... (alati proovin moid koiki kaista, pole muret)
siis... (alati proovin moid koiki kaista, pole muret)
18 March 2018 01:24
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aah see Viiiiikigite tipp standard film... nu see suht nagu liivapuru kivi tolm teise filmi sügavuse lainest mida fantaaasia võimaldaks, .... kuigi geograafilisi mootmeid vb jah... aga nyyd võetke see moode... ja pange sellega kokku, mis on rooma ja nõidus koos kui nad samaal ajal olid olemas.... noidused st, ....et siis mis moodi see mis tomus üle maailma välja nägi, peaks elemenraarne kujutluspilt olemas olea noorikuil
18 March 2018 01:23
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kuid kas pole siis tehnoloogial saftey ekraani ,
mitme inimesega majas eriti... vms... et inimene ei oleks sunnnitud vaatama seda mis pakutakse vaid, et nad saaks ka seda näha ja teha mida ma pakkuda saaks kui mul lubataks
mitme inimesega majas eriti... vms... et inimene ei oleks sunnnitud vaatama seda mis pakutakse vaid, et nad saaks ka seda näha ja teha mida ma pakkuda saaks kui mul lubataks
18 March 2018 01:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
saame aru, et Arueaks saama inimene mida vaatab onast vabadusest...
18 March 2018 01:20
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kuiudas n võimalik et lihtsalt aselline asi telekasttuleb kui tunub hharidust selles osas pole selgitamaks enamusele mida nad vaatavad
18 March 2018 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga nad madalama kaitse eest ennast suurde ohtu panid ja suure asja tekitasid enda ohtu panekuga
18 March 2018 01:15
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te ei tea mis olenditega, te ei taha teada
aga tuleb vaadata Kes,
aga ta näitab, jumalike joudude moju kes saavad selle vastu ainukeselt pool kergelt vaevaga
aga tuleb vaadata Kes,
aga ta näitab, jumalike joudude moju kes saavad selle vastu ainukeselt pool kergelt vaevaga
18 March 2018 01:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi a naitab kuidas nad naisi yles korjavad, naisemateriali saamiseks
18 March 2018 01:12
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aga seda punases naist oleks pidanud korrale kutsuma
18 March 2018 01:11
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liiga poeetiline, kuid maselle lopu vaatan veel korra.. njeaa... Ma väihmatki kui suurim neist sääl ei ole kunagi avestamamolema hakanud
18 March 2018 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kaitset ja tasandust peab pakkuma kõigile, kui tahame edasi astuda.
Lihtsalt parameetrid, kus Mõõdetakse, kas inimesed päriselt ärkvel mis toimub või nad lihtsalt mängivad kaasa, elusolemiseks, segadius...
Lihtsalt parameetrid, kus Mõõdetakse, kas inimesed päriselt ärkvel mis toimub või nad lihtsalt mängivad kaasa, elusolemiseks, segadius...
18 March 2018 01:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et tuleb arusaada nõidade muukehalisi võimeid mida meelega esile kutsutakse mida suurema kurja poole vastuvõitlema suundutakse,
18 March 2018 01:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid Nõidade käest tuleb jah luba küsida,
Seega oluline ka, alistumine ja
Seega oluline ka, alistumine ja
18 March 2018 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Salemi Nõidade kohta ka, Siseinfot kuidas see praegusessse ellu saab tähendada, etteruttavalt
18 March 2018 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on Levo Tohva's photo.
Oh seda viisnurka... ta edukalt niipalju hävitanud
17 March 2018 22:03
Margus Meigo commented on Levo Tohva's photo.
Ulmeline... aga ometi reaaalne
17 March 2018 22:03
Margus Meigo commented on Aln UlGa's post.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Siin vaja palju tõsisemaid ja radikaalsemaid rünnakuid selliste olendite vastu kes me elunaba, emajõge ja tartu linna hävitust plaanivad17 March 2018 21:39
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"Foreign entities operating in China face the potential of being investigated and charged in connection with this sustained anti-corruption campaign. In the summer of 2013, GlaxoSmithKline (“GSK”), a British pharmaceutical company listed on both the London and New York stock exchanges, became the focus of the biggest corruption scandal in China involving a foreign company. The GSK chain of events was set in motion by two chains of e-mails accusing GSK of bribing doctors in order to promote GSK’s medical products.5 In September 2014, GSK was found by the Changsha Intermediate People’s Court in Hunan Province, China to have offered money or property to non-government personnel in order to obtain improper commercial gains, and was found guilty of bribing non-government personnel. As a result of the Court’s verdict, GSK was ordered to pay a fine of RMB 3bn (£297m) to the Chinese government.6 Five former GSK senior executives were sentenced to suspended imprisonment of two to three years.7
Following the GSK bribery investigation, the State Administration of Industry and Commerce stated that local Administrations of Industry and Commerce should pay more attention to industries affecting the public interest (including the pharmaceutical industry), strengthen their supervision over the bidding activities carried out by industry players, and conduct thorough investigations against any commercial bribery arising from the bidding process.8 A number of foreign drug manufacturers – UCB, Novartis, AstraZeneca PLC, Pfizer, Bayer AG, and Roche Holding AG − were subsequently visited by the Chinese authorities.9 There were also news articles reporting that Sanofi SA and Eli Lilly were visited by the Chinese authorities as well.10
Currently, the primary pieces of anti-bribery and anti-corruption legislation in China are: (i) the PRC Criminal Law; and (ii) the PRC Anti-unfair Competition Law (the “AUCL”). The PRC Criminal Law applies to both “official bribery” (where government officials and state functionaries are involved) and “commercial bribery” (where private enterprises and/or their staff are involved), whereas the AUCL prohibits “commercial bribery”.
In addition to this primary legislation, various government departments’ administrative rules (such as the Interim Regulations on Prohibiting Commercial Bribery) and judicial interpretations issued by the Supreme People’s Court (“SPC”) and the SPP (such as the Opinion on Issues concerning the Application of Law in the Handling of Criminal Cases of Commercial Bribery (the “2008 Commercial Bribery Opinion”) and, most recently, Interpretations of Several Issues Concerning the Application of Law in Handling Criminal Cases Related to Graft and Bribery (the “2016 Judicial Interpretation”)) also contain anti-bribery provisions.
The Communist Party of China (“CPC”) and the State Council have also issued internal disciplinary rules governing corruption or bribery of Communist Party members and Chinese government officials.
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Anti-corruption enforcement is increasingly global in scope. As summarised above, China has been aggressively enforcing its own anti-corruption laws on a sustained basis. This has and will continue to mean vigorous multinational anti-corruption enforcement targeting domestic and foreign companies and individuals.
Following the GSK bribery investigation, the State Administration of Industry and Commerce stated that local Administrations of Industry and Commerce should pay more attention to industries affecting the public interest (including the pharmaceutical industry), strengthen their supervision over the bidding activities carried out by industry players, and conduct thorough investigations against any commercial bribery arising from the bidding process.8 A number of foreign drug manufacturers – UCB, Novartis, AstraZeneca PLC, Pfizer, Bayer AG, and Roche Holding AG − were subsequently visited by the Chinese authorities.9 There were also news articles reporting that Sanofi SA and Eli Lilly were visited by the Chinese authorities as well.10
Currently, the primary pieces of anti-bribery and anti-corruption legislation in China are: (i) the PRC Criminal Law; and (ii) the PRC Anti-unfair Competition Law (the “AUCL”). The PRC Criminal Law applies to both “official bribery” (where government officials and state functionaries are involved) and “commercial bribery” (where private enterprises and/or their staff are involved), whereas the AUCL prohibits “commercial bribery”.
In addition to this primary legislation, various government departments’ administrative rules (such as the Interim Regulations on Prohibiting Commercial Bribery) and judicial interpretations issued by the Supreme People’s Court (“SPC”) and the SPP (such as the Opinion on Issues concerning the Application of Law in the Handling of Criminal Cases of Commercial Bribery (the “2008 Commercial Bribery Opinion”) and, most recently, Interpretations of Several Issues Concerning the Application of Law in Handling Criminal Cases Related to Graft and Bribery (the “2016 Judicial Interpretation”)) also contain anti-bribery provisions.
The Communist Party of China (“CPC”) and the State Council have also issued internal disciplinary rules governing corruption or bribery of Communist Party members and Chinese government officials.
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Anti-corruption enforcement is increasingly global in scope. As summarised above, China has been aggressively enforcing its own anti-corruption laws on a sustained basis. This has and will continue to mean vigorous multinational anti-corruption enforcement targeting domestic and foreign companies and individuals.
17 March 2018 21:15
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kas Sellega juba arvestanud oled kes me ajusi magneetiliselt hoiavad...:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10212233778336377/
hoiavad unenägudes
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10212233778336377/
hoiavad unenägudes
17 March 2018 21:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.globallegalinsights.com/practice-areas/bribery-and-corruption-laws-and-regulations/china
" China has had strong anti-corruption laws for many years. On 1 January 1980, the Criminal Law of the People’s Republic of China (the “PRC Criminal Law”),containing the criminal offences of bribery and corruption, came into effect. The PRC Criminal Law later underwent a sea change to modernise and rejuvenate the laws in 1997, with enhanced provisions on bribery and corruption offences.
The laws have now become even more vigorous, with sustained enforcement following the coming to power of President Xi Jinping in 2013. President Xi has made the curbing and elimination of corruption one of his main goals. This has kick-started the beginning of a new era, which has brought a new focus on and appreciation of the strength and breadth of the Chinese anti-corruption laws.
The actions taken by President Xi have been felt even at the highest echelons of power. According to the statistics provided in a report1 by the Procurator-General of the Supreme People’s Procuratorate (“SPP”), Cao Jianming, to the National People’s Congress in March 2017, there were 47,650 persons charged for corruption or dereliction of duty. Indicative of the seriousness of the anti-corruption campaign, 2,882 state functionaries above the county level, including 446 state functionaries at the bureau level and 48 state functionaries at the provincial/ministerial level, were investigated in these cases. In total, 10,472 state functionaries were investigated and punished for taking bribes and 7,375 persons were investigated and punished for giving bribes to state functionaries.2
As another example, banquets for representatives of the National People’s Congress have given way to self-serve and alcohol-free buffets. This focus is also evidenced by the issuance of the Administrative Measures on Conferences of Central and State Departments (the “Measures”) and the Provisions on Administration of Domestic Official Reception by Party and Government Organs (the “Provisions”) in September and December 2013 respectively. The Measures aim at cutting expenditure on official meetings by central government departments. The Provisions contain strict and more detailed requirements and standards on where a business meal may take place and what must be excluded from a business meal. These developments are part of President Xi’s overall efforts to eliminate opportunities for corruption and extravagance in connection with official meetings and receptions.
It is also noteworthy that the Chinese government invited the State Parties under the United Nations Convention Against Corruption to inspect China’s compliance with the treaty for the first review period from 2010 to 2015.3 This is indicative of the seriousness of the Chinese government’s efforts in its anti-corruption campaign.
In November 2014, the Chinese government announced that a new anti-corruption bureau is to be established. It is anticipated that this new bureau will act as an anti-graft bureau and will investigate officials suspected of corruption. The bureau will be combined with three existing bodies – the Anti-Corruption and Anti-Bribery Bureau, the Prevention of Duty-Related Crimes Department and the Investigation of Dereliction of Duty and Power Abuse Department. It will be established at vice-ministerial level, higher than a regular bureau.4
" China has had strong anti-corruption laws for many years. On 1 January 1980, the Criminal Law of the People’s Republic of China (the “PRC Criminal Law”),containing the criminal offences of bribery and corruption, came into effect. The PRC Criminal Law later underwent a sea change to modernise and rejuvenate the laws in 1997, with enhanced provisions on bribery and corruption offences.
The laws have now become even more vigorous, with sustained enforcement following the coming to power of President Xi Jinping in 2013. President Xi has made the curbing and elimination of corruption one of his main goals. This has kick-started the beginning of a new era, which has brought a new focus on and appreciation of the strength and breadth of the Chinese anti-corruption laws.
The actions taken by President Xi have been felt even at the highest echelons of power. According to the statistics provided in a report1 by the Procurator-General of the Supreme People’s Procuratorate (“SPP”), Cao Jianming, to the National People’s Congress in March 2017, there were 47,650 persons charged for corruption or dereliction of duty. Indicative of the seriousness of the anti-corruption campaign, 2,882 state functionaries above the county level, including 446 state functionaries at the bureau level and 48 state functionaries at the provincial/ministerial level, were investigated in these cases. In total, 10,472 state functionaries were investigated and punished for taking bribes and 7,375 persons were investigated and punished for giving bribes to state functionaries.2
As another example, banquets for representatives of the National People’s Congress have given way to self-serve and alcohol-free buffets. This focus is also evidenced by the issuance of the Administrative Measures on Conferences of Central and State Departments (the “Measures”) and the Provisions on Administration of Domestic Official Reception by Party and Government Organs (the “Provisions”) in September and December 2013 respectively. The Measures aim at cutting expenditure on official meetings by central government departments. The Provisions contain strict and more detailed requirements and standards on where a business meal may take place and what must be excluded from a business meal. These developments are part of President Xi’s overall efforts to eliminate opportunities for corruption and extravagance in connection with official meetings and receptions.
It is also noteworthy that the Chinese government invited the State Parties under the United Nations Convention Against Corruption to inspect China’s compliance with the treaty for the first review period from 2010 to 2015.3 This is indicative of the seriousness of the Chinese government’s efforts in its anti-corruption campaign.
In November 2014, the Chinese government announced that a new anti-corruption bureau is to be established. It is anticipated that this new bureau will act as an anti-graft bureau and will investigate officials suspected of corruption. The bureau will be combined with three existing bodies – the Anti-Corruption and Anti-Bribery Bureau, the Prevention of Duty-Related Crimes Department and the Investigation of Dereliction of Duty and Power Abuse Department. It will be established at vice-ministerial level, higher than a regular bureau.4
17 March 2018 19:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"
Deng Jiagui, who has made a fortune in real estate development, became “Red Nobility” in 1996 when he married Qi Qiaoqiao, the daughter of Xi Zhongxun, one of China's revolutionary heroes and a former top official. Qi Qiaoqiao’s younger brother is Xi Jinping, who is president of China and head of China’s Communist Party. An investigative report by Bloomberg News in 2012 revealed that Deng and his wife had hundreds of millions of dollars in real estate, share holdings and other assets.
In the data
In 2004, Deng Jiagui, the brother-in-law of China’s current President Xi Jinping, acquired a company in the British Virgin Islands called Supreme Victory Enterprises Ltd and was the sole director and shareholder. The company was struck off the BVI registry in 2007. In September 2009, Deng became the sole director and shareholder of two additional British Virgin Islands-based “shelf companies” in Mossack Fonseca's inventory. The companies were called Best Effect Enterprises Ltd and Wealth Ming International Limited. Mossack Fonseca helped Deng obtain a “chop” – a carved metal or stone seal often used by Chinese businesses to validate documents in lieu of signatures – for Best Effect Enterprises. It is unclear what the two companies were used for. At the time, Xi Jinping was one of nine men on the all-powerful Politburo Standing Committee, the body that rules China. By the time Xi was named general secretary of the Chinese Communist Party in 2012 and the country’s president in 2013, Deng’s two BVI companies were dormant.
Response
Deng did not respond to a request for comment.
Related documents
Register of members and directors, Best Effect Enterprises Ltd.
https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/stories/deng-jiagui
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2781598-Jiagui-Dengdoc1.html
Deng Jiagui, who has made a fortune in real estate development, became “Red Nobility” in 1996 when he married Qi Qiaoqiao, the daughter of Xi Zhongxun, one of China's revolutionary heroes and a former top official. Qi Qiaoqiao’s younger brother is Xi Jinping, who is president of China and head of China’s Communist Party. An investigative report by Bloomberg News in 2012 revealed that Deng and his wife had hundreds of millions of dollars in real estate, share holdings and other assets.
In the data
In 2004, Deng Jiagui, the brother-in-law of China’s current President Xi Jinping, acquired a company in the British Virgin Islands called Supreme Victory Enterprises Ltd and was the sole director and shareholder. The company was struck off the BVI registry in 2007. In September 2009, Deng became the sole director and shareholder of two additional British Virgin Islands-based “shelf companies” in Mossack Fonseca's inventory. The companies were called Best Effect Enterprises Ltd and Wealth Ming International Limited. Mossack Fonseca helped Deng obtain a “chop” – a carved metal or stone seal often used by Chinese businesses to validate documents in lieu of signatures – for Best Effect Enterprises. It is unclear what the two companies were used for. At the time, Xi Jinping was one of nine men on the all-powerful Politburo Standing Committee, the body that rules China. By the time Xi was named general secretary of the Chinese Communist Party in 2012 and the country’s president in 2013, Deng’s two BVI companies were dormant.
Response
Deng did not respond to a request for comment.
Related documents
Register of members and directors, Best Effect Enterprises Ltd.
https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/stories/deng-jiagui
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2781598-Jiagui-Dengdoc1.html
https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/stories/deng-jiagui
17 March 2018 19:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"As the abolition of term limits shows, he failed—or at least, his reforms failed to rein in Mr Xi. Instead of avoiding an over-concentration of powers, the president has made himself chairman of everything. Instead of separating party from state, he has injected party control into areas which had once been relatively free of it, such as private companies (see article). Now he has cast aside Deng’s efforts to introduce a system of succession by timetable.
Deng’s reforms also failed in a more obvious way—they did not change the political system as he had promised. Before Mr Xi took over, Jiang Zemin, Deng’s successor, was still influential behind the scenes, though he had retired in 2004 (see chart). In 2012 Mr Xi’s rival, Bo Xilai, was arrested and jailed following a scandal involving corruption and the murder of a British businessman on the orders of Mr Bo’s wife. Mr Xi has used his anti-graft campaign to rid himself of other rivals—most recently Sun Zhengcai, who was party chief of the south-western region of Chongqing, the same job that Mr Bo had held. This hardly looks like a predictable, orderly system.
The events leading up to the removal of term limits show how murky politics remains. The proposal came from the party’s Central Committee, comprising its most senior 200-odd officials. It was dated January 26th. But the committee did not meet that day. It had met a week earlier. That meeting produced a communiqué about constitutional reform, which did not mention that term limits had been discussed. So last weekend’s news that they would be abolished was a complete surprise. Curiously, it was revealed by the English-language service of Xinhua, the government’s main news-agency, hours before it was released in Chinese (heads rolled at Xinhua because of this).
It is not unusual for important party decisions to be circulated first among party members before they are made public. But for an important one such as this to be kept under wraps for so long, without a leak, suggests that relatively few senior officials were involved. The length of time before the announcement may also be an indication of unexpected opposition. There has been surprisingly little commentary in state-run media on such a momentous change, further suggesting a lack of elite consensus. The term-limit abolition was not even announced separately. The news emerged only as part of a list of constitutional amendments, buried at the bottom of the second page of the party’s flagship newspaper, People’s Daily.
Mr Xi’s constitutional changes—which go beyond scrapping term limits—could make the political system even more opaque and draconian. Top of the list of revisions to be approved by the legislature in March is one that will replace the phrase “socialist legal system” with “socialist rule by law”—making it clear that courts should be a tool of party control.
The current constitution mentions the leading role of the party only in its preamble. The revised version will refer to it in article one, declaring that: “The socialist system is the fundamental system of the People’s Republic of China. The leadership of the Chinese Communist Party is the most essential feature of socialism with Chinese characteristics.” Party and state could hardly become more amalgamated.
No less important, the parliament will approve what looks like a new administrative branch that merges elements of the party, government, police and judiciary into a powerful organisation called the National Supervision Commission. This will incorporate the party’s discipline-enforcement body but work closely with the courts and report to the legislature—ie, there will be no separation of powers. It will be able to interrogate, search, detain and punish any official, whether from the party or the government bureaucracy, in cases involving corruption, violations of ethics and ideological deviation.
Such changes are controversial. Han Dayuan of Renmin University in Beijing suggests that some of them—notably the abolition of term limits—may even undermine the constitution. For years scholars like him have been trying, as Deng did, to devise ways of reconciling constitutional norms with one-party rule. They fear that Mr Xi has turned his back on this effort.
Look on my Works, ye Mighty
So why has he done this? He could have stayed on as general secretary. His ideology, called “Xi Jinping Thought for a New Era”, would still have been in the party’s own charter, giving him the status of final arbiter in any dispute. The answer must be that it is because of the kind of leader he wants to be: with his power on full display, not hidden behind the scenes. A reason for wanting this is that he is trying to project Chinese influence round the world. Because of diplomatic protocol it is easier to meet foreign leaders as president than as general secretary. Another reason may be that he faces opposition (not least because of his anti-corruption campaign) and must continuously show rivals who is in charge. It is even possible, as People’s Daily argued online on February 26th, that staying as president and party chief for another ten years or more will lead to more consistent, long-term policy-making and perhaps enable him to get to grips with some of the economy’s entrenched problems.
Perhaps. But it is equally likely that the changes will increase what Chinese observers call the “bad emperor” risk: that if Mr Xi is set on a course that will prove a big mistake, nobody will be able to stop him. The abolition of term limits may be just such a blunder.
https://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21737506-nationalisation-anbang-makes-good-regulation-murky-politics-china
Deng’s reforms also failed in a more obvious way—they did not change the political system as he had promised. Before Mr Xi took over, Jiang Zemin, Deng’s successor, was still influential behind the scenes, though he had retired in 2004 (see chart). In 2012 Mr Xi’s rival, Bo Xilai, was arrested and jailed following a scandal involving corruption and the murder of a British businessman on the orders of Mr Bo’s wife. Mr Xi has used his anti-graft campaign to rid himself of other rivals—most recently Sun Zhengcai, who was party chief of the south-western region of Chongqing, the same job that Mr Bo had held. This hardly looks like a predictable, orderly system.
The events leading up to the removal of term limits show how murky politics remains. The proposal came from the party’s Central Committee, comprising its most senior 200-odd officials. It was dated January 26th. But the committee did not meet that day. It had met a week earlier. That meeting produced a communiqué about constitutional reform, which did not mention that term limits had been discussed. So last weekend’s news that they would be abolished was a complete surprise. Curiously, it was revealed by the English-language service of Xinhua, the government’s main news-agency, hours before it was released in Chinese (heads rolled at Xinhua because of this).
It is not unusual for important party decisions to be circulated first among party members before they are made public. But for an important one such as this to be kept under wraps for so long, without a leak, suggests that relatively few senior officials were involved. The length of time before the announcement may also be an indication of unexpected opposition. There has been surprisingly little commentary in state-run media on such a momentous change, further suggesting a lack of elite consensus. The term-limit abolition was not even announced separately. The news emerged only as part of a list of constitutional amendments, buried at the bottom of the second page of the party’s flagship newspaper, People’s Daily.
Mr Xi’s constitutional changes—which go beyond scrapping term limits—could make the political system even more opaque and draconian. Top of the list of revisions to be approved by the legislature in March is one that will replace the phrase “socialist legal system” with “socialist rule by law”—making it clear that courts should be a tool of party control.
The current constitution mentions the leading role of the party only in its preamble. The revised version will refer to it in article one, declaring that: “The socialist system is the fundamental system of the People’s Republic of China. The leadership of the Chinese Communist Party is the most essential feature of socialism with Chinese characteristics.” Party and state could hardly become more amalgamated.
No less important, the parliament will approve what looks like a new administrative branch that merges elements of the party, government, police and judiciary into a powerful organisation called the National Supervision Commission. This will incorporate the party’s discipline-enforcement body but work closely with the courts and report to the legislature—ie, there will be no separation of powers. It will be able to interrogate, search, detain and punish any official, whether from the party or the government bureaucracy, in cases involving corruption, violations of ethics and ideological deviation.
Such changes are controversial. Han Dayuan of Renmin University in Beijing suggests that some of them—notably the abolition of term limits—may even undermine the constitution. For years scholars like him have been trying, as Deng did, to devise ways of reconciling constitutional norms with one-party rule. They fear that Mr Xi has turned his back on this effort.
Look on my Works, ye Mighty
So why has he done this? He could have stayed on as general secretary. His ideology, called “Xi Jinping Thought for a New Era”, would still have been in the party’s own charter, giving him the status of final arbiter in any dispute. The answer must be that it is because of the kind of leader he wants to be: with his power on full display, not hidden behind the scenes. A reason for wanting this is that he is trying to project Chinese influence round the world. Because of diplomatic protocol it is easier to meet foreign leaders as president than as general secretary. Another reason may be that he faces opposition (not least because of his anti-corruption campaign) and must continuously show rivals who is in charge. It is even possible, as People’s Daily argued online on February 26th, that staying as president and party chief for another ten years or more will lead to more consistent, long-term policy-making and perhaps enable him to get to grips with some of the economy’s entrenched problems.
Perhaps. But it is equally likely that the changes will increase what Chinese observers call the “bad emperor” risk: that if Mr Xi is set on a course that will prove a big mistake, nobody will be able to stop him. The abolition of term limits may be just such a blunder.
https://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21737506-nationalisation-anbang-makes-good-regulation-murky-politics-china
https://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21737506-nationalisation-anbang-makes-good-regulation-murky-politics-china
17 March 2018 19:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Terms of art
Such limits may not matter much in themselves (they will be formally abolished at an annual session of the rubber-stamp parliament, which starts on March 5th). The presidency is a weak office. Mr Xi could stay in power as the party’s general secretary and military chief, to which term limits do not apply. But the abolition is still important partly because it is the clearest evidence that Mr Xi does, in fact, plan to ignore convention that party chiefs step down after ten years, and keep all of his jobs after 2023. It also pierces the veil of politics and shows what kind of ruler he wants to be. At a time when he is trying to boost China’s image globally as a modern, outward-looking and responsible state, the political system he governs seems premodern, opaque and treacherous.
The system itself is extremely unusual. China has two ladders of authority: the government and the party. The party hierarchy outranks the state one. In other countries, the ministers of finance and foreign affairs (government jobs) are usually the most important ones after the president or prime minister. In China, they are not even in the top 25. Neither man is a member of the Politburo, let alone its inner sanctum, the Politburo Standing Committee. Formally, the People’s Liberation Army is controlled by the party, not the government. In one respect, though, Chinese politics is all too normal. As with other Leninist systems, it is bedevilled by the problem of leadership succession. Of the 11 party leaders since 1921 (seven since the party seized power in 1949), only one—Mr Xi’s predecessor, Hu Jintao—has stepped down from all his posts in accordance with a timetable. Seven were executed or purged.
In the 1980s, reacting to the chaos of the Mao era, Deng Xiaoping tried to make the system more orderly and predictable by introducing new rules, norms and precedents. These included the reinstitution of the post of president (there had not been one since 1968), along with a two-term limit for the holder of that office as well as the vice-president. Mandatory retirement ages were also introduced. After Mao’s one-man freak show, Deng argued that China needed “collective leadership”. In a speech in 1980 he said the system should avoid an “over-concentration of power”, which, he warned, was “liable to give rise to arbitrary rule”. He said it should make a clearer separation between the party and the government. And it had to “solve the problem of succession in leadership”. Before he resigned in 1989 as head of the party’s Central Military Commission, Deng said his final task was to “take the lead in establishing a retirement system”.
https://www.economist.com/news/china/21737543-unhappiness-china-palpable-xi-jinping-decides-abolish-presidential-term-limits
Such limits may not matter much in themselves (they will be formally abolished at an annual session of the rubber-stamp parliament, which starts on March 5th). The presidency is a weak office. Mr Xi could stay in power as the party’s general secretary and military chief, to which term limits do not apply. But the abolition is still important partly because it is the clearest evidence that Mr Xi does, in fact, plan to ignore convention that party chiefs step down after ten years, and keep all of his jobs after 2023. It also pierces the veil of politics and shows what kind of ruler he wants to be. At a time when he is trying to boost China’s image globally as a modern, outward-looking and responsible state, the political system he governs seems premodern, opaque and treacherous.
The system itself is extremely unusual. China has two ladders of authority: the government and the party. The party hierarchy outranks the state one. In other countries, the ministers of finance and foreign affairs (government jobs) are usually the most important ones after the president or prime minister. In China, they are not even in the top 25. Neither man is a member of the Politburo, let alone its inner sanctum, the Politburo Standing Committee. Formally, the People’s Liberation Army is controlled by the party, not the government. In one respect, though, Chinese politics is all too normal. As with other Leninist systems, it is bedevilled by the problem of leadership succession. Of the 11 party leaders since 1921 (seven since the party seized power in 1949), only one—Mr Xi’s predecessor, Hu Jintao—has stepped down from all his posts in accordance with a timetable. Seven were executed or purged.
In the 1980s, reacting to the chaos of the Mao era, Deng Xiaoping tried to make the system more orderly and predictable by introducing new rules, norms and precedents. These included the reinstitution of the post of president (there had not been one since 1968), along with a two-term limit for the holder of that office as well as the vice-president. Mandatory retirement ages were also introduced. After Mao’s one-man freak show, Deng argued that China needed “collective leadership”. In a speech in 1980 he said the system should avoid an “over-concentration of power”, which, he warned, was “liable to give rise to arbitrary rule”. He said it should make a clearer separation between the party and the government. And it had to “solve the problem of succession in leadership”. Before he resigned in 1989 as head of the party’s Central Military Commission, Deng said his final task was to “take the lead in establishing a retirement system”.
https://www.economist.com/news/china/21737543-unhappiness-china-palpable-xi-jinping-decides-abolish-presidential-term-limits
https://www.economist.com/news/china/21737543-unhappiness-china-palpable-xi-jinping-decides-abolish-presidential-term-limits
17 March 2018 19:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The President of the People's Republic of China is the Head of State, as well as the supreme representative of China both internally and externally. The State presidency is an independent State apparatus and a component part of China's State organization. China's system of the head of state is a system of collective leadership. The president is subordinate to the NPC and directly receives instructions from the supreme organ of State power."
http://english1.english.gov.cn/2013-03/14/content_2353971.htm
http://english1.english.gov.cn/2013-03/14/content_2353971.htm
http://english1.english.gov.cn/2013-03/14/content_2353971.htm
17 March 2018 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The Atlantic.. The Economist.. even Bloomberg to confused about understandings talking about "a lot can happen.. not sure if that is good to have leader for life.."
And they should be a business top on planet, hard, calculating, reasonable, ...is it hard to see how much country can save from a moral and finance not fooling people in to process that is not needed.
When king truly pisses off people, then one can be "assassinated" or step back by them self, no need this ritualistic game.
Game that is made for this real reason, that real local people not ever give no real rule that can make true changes .. where people can plan 50+ years ahead for their kids .
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-25/china-seeks-to-repeal-president-s-term-limit-opening-way-for-xi
"“The structural reform of financial and economic sectors will be crucial at the meeting,” said Hu Xingdou, an economics professor at the Beijing Institute of Technology. “The leaders understand a change of the financial regulatory system is a must as financial risk is increasing. It’s widely expected there will be a super regulator that covers broader financial issues.”
China is attempting to defuse a ticking time bomb of debt -- which stands at around 260 percent of output and growing -- without crashing the economy.
Politburo members mentioned by analysts in connection with the central bank governor role include Xi’s top economic policy adviser, Liu He, as well as the head of the banking regulator, Guo Shuqing, and Hubei provincial party chief Jiang Chaoliang. Attention at the plenum will also likely focus on Xi’s pick to lead the Financial Stability Development Committee, which was created last year to tackle China’s financial sector.
David Cohen, a Beijing-based managing editor at consulting firm China Policy, said the decision to lift presidential term limits means the direction of policies will remain the same for the foreseeable future.
“China has been going for the last few years under Xi in the direction of increased party intervention in society and lower hopes for the rule of law,” Cohen said. “This move signals that those whose opinion Xi has to care about are either happy about the direction Xi is taking things or have been effectively sidelined. Either way, things aren’t going to change.”"
// well, once you get rid of witch craft pentagram Rule as well, and ban this symbolism in China as well.. then the true change can arise, and real China to be
And they should be a business top on planet, hard, calculating, reasonable, ...is it hard to see how much country can save from a moral and finance not fooling people in to process that is not needed.
When king truly pisses off people, then one can be "assassinated" or step back by them self, no need this ritualistic game.
Game that is made for this real reason, that real local people not ever give no real rule that can make true changes .. where people can plan 50+ years ahead for their kids .
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-25/china-seeks-to-repeal-president-s-term-limit-opening-way-for-xi
"“The structural reform of financial and economic sectors will be crucial at the meeting,” said Hu Xingdou, an economics professor at the Beijing Institute of Technology. “The leaders understand a change of the financial regulatory system is a must as financial risk is increasing. It’s widely expected there will be a super regulator that covers broader financial issues.”
China is attempting to defuse a ticking time bomb of debt -- which stands at around 260 percent of output and growing -- without crashing the economy.
Politburo members mentioned by analysts in connection with the central bank governor role include Xi’s top economic policy adviser, Liu He, as well as the head of the banking regulator, Guo Shuqing, and Hubei provincial party chief Jiang Chaoliang. Attention at the plenum will also likely focus on Xi’s pick to lead the Financial Stability Development Committee, which was created last year to tackle China’s financial sector.
David Cohen, a Beijing-based managing editor at consulting firm China Policy, said the decision to lift presidential term limits means the direction of policies will remain the same for the foreseeable future.
“China has been going for the last few years under Xi in the direction of increased party intervention in society and lower hopes for the rule of law,” Cohen said. “This move signals that those whose opinion Xi has to care about are either happy about the direction Xi is taking things or have been effectively sidelined. Either way, things aren’t going to change.”"
// well, once you get rid of witch craft pentagram Rule as well, and ban this symbolism in China as well.. then the true change can arise, and real China to be
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-25/china-seeks-to-repeal-president-s-term-limit-opening-way-for-xi
17 March 2018 19:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Same time at other side of the world: "“the president was told to think of him as a woman and call him ‘she’,”
"As Donald Trump pondered ways to revolutionise perhaps the world’s most crucial and complex diplomatic relationship last year he faced one major hurdle: he couldn’t pronounce the name of China’s leader, Xi Jinping.
The solution? Think of him as a woman.
That, according to Michael Wolff’s explosive insider account of Trump’s White House, is the advice aides gave the US president as he prepared for a crunch two-day summit with the Communist party leader at his Mar-a-Lago estate in April last year.
Tell-all book on Trump to be released early despite White House legal effort
Wolff’s book, obtained this week by the Guardian and set for publication on Friday, describes how Trump required “some tutoring” with regard to the family name of his Chinese counterpart, which is roughly pronounced “shee”. Not known for his linguistic talents, Trump was instead prone to call the leader of the world’s No 2 economy “Mr X-i”.
To avoid such gaffes during Xi’s visit, “the president was told to think of him as a woman and call him ‘she’,” Wolff claims in Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House.
By Wolff’s telling, Trump’s Mandarin lesson – and his bid to impress Xi with his palm-dotted estate – paid off: “[The Chinese] were in an agreeable mood, evidently willing to humor Trump. And they quickly figured out that if you flatter him, he flatters you.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/05/trump-china-president-woman-name-xi-jinping
"Wolff’s revelation recalls a sketch from Spitting Image, the 1980s satirical puppet show, in which aides struggle to teach Ronald Reagan how to pronounce Mikhail Gorbachev’s name using picture boards featuring images of a mouth, a sheep and a chef with a plate of tongues. “Remember Mr President, it’s Gob … Baa … Chef,” Reagan, who fails to catch on, is told. “Mouth … sheep … tongue ... Gee, isn’t he that Chinese guy?” he replies.
China makes several cameos in Wolff’s book. In one section, Trump is quoted as complaining: “If we have to be in Afghanistan … why can’t we make money off it? China has mining rights, but not the United States.”
Elsewhere, Wolff reports how Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, initially became “the driver of the Trump doctrine” and made China, Mexico, Canada and Saudi Arabia foreign policy “test cases”: “He offered each country the opportunity to make his father-in-law happy.”
Xi, who recently honoured Trump with a “state-visit plus”, has been trying.
// Crying or trying..
"As Donald Trump pondered ways to revolutionise perhaps the world’s most crucial and complex diplomatic relationship last year he faced one major hurdle: he couldn’t pronounce the name of China’s leader, Xi Jinping.
The solution? Think of him as a woman.
That, according to Michael Wolff’s explosive insider account of Trump’s White House, is the advice aides gave the US president as he prepared for a crunch two-day summit with the Communist party leader at his Mar-a-Lago estate in April last year.
Tell-all book on Trump to be released early despite White House legal effort
Wolff’s book, obtained this week by the Guardian and set for publication on Friday, describes how Trump required “some tutoring” with regard to the family name of his Chinese counterpart, which is roughly pronounced “shee”. Not known for his linguistic talents, Trump was instead prone to call the leader of the world’s No 2 economy “Mr X-i”.
To avoid such gaffes during Xi’s visit, “the president was told to think of him as a woman and call him ‘she’,” Wolff claims in Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House.
By Wolff’s telling, Trump’s Mandarin lesson – and his bid to impress Xi with his palm-dotted estate – paid off: “[The Chinese] were in an agreeable mood, evidently willing to humor Trump. And they quickly figured out that if you flatter him, he flatters you.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/05/trump-china-president-woman-name-xi-jinping
"Wolff’s revelation recalls a sketch from Spitting Image, the 1980s satirical puppet show, in which aides struggle to teach Ronald Reagan how to pronounce Mikhail Gorbachev’s name using picture boards featuring images of a mouth, a sheep and a chef with a plate of tongues. “Remember Mr President, it’s Gob … Baa … Chef,” Reagan, who fails to catch on, is told. “Mouth … sheep … tongue ... Gee, isn’t he that Chinese guy?” he replies.
China makes several cameos in Wolff’s book. In one section, Trump is quoted as complaining: “If we have to be in Afghanistan … why can’t we make money off it? China has mining rights, but not the United States.”
Elsewhere, Wolff reports how Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, initially became “the driver of the Trump doctrine” and made China, Mexico, Canada and Saudi Arabia foreign policy “test cases”: “He offered each country the opportunity to make his father-in-law happy.”
Xi, who recently honoured Trump with a “state-visit plus”, has been trying.
// Crying or trying..
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/05/trump-china-president-woman-name-xi-jinping
17 March 2018 19:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oih, suts korval teema sattus siia, mõttevoona
17 March 2018 18:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mis mind imestama paneb, et ei käida suniviisiliselt neid inimesi kasimas, see ju inimese meeled hoiab sopas ja pääsmatus olukorras...
lisaks andakse alkohoolikultele sularaha iga kuu, regulaarselt, toidutalongide asemel... nu mis pull see on...
saab kergesti teha ju toiduostu kaardi uue, millega saab ainult osta kõike peale viina ja suitsu.,
Ja see kui nad need asjad mahamüüvad, et viina saad,a see pole hullu midagi, see juba mentaalne tegevus ja hoiab aju ärksana, kuid kui otse pood isaab viinajärele minna ja üksteiselt käiakse raha lunimas pidevalt, ...
Siin inimesed kellel üle 250 ne iga kuu antakse, lisaks 100% tasuta elamisele ja kommunaalidele,... kellel raha juba poole kuuga otsas ja lunivad teistelt juurde viimast, alatult... nu sedasi ju ei saa..
selle peab muutma, seda lihtne muut.a..
Miks meie raskeima raha, sotsraha.. sedasi kallatakse suitsu ja viina firmadele... see NIII arulugu.. ja oleks siis veel ainetesse, millest nad kasu saaavad..
aga eip..
olema peaks nii, et kes alkoholismiga vahele jäänud, korduvalt, see enam sularaha ei saa, vaid saab teise kaardi..
ja siis tuleb veel sõltlaste eest kaitsta neid kellel on sularaha.. lisaks uksetaga kabas olemisele minnakse ka kallale ja jalanõusigi võetud inimestelt, vaestematelt nõrgematelt...
või neid nad ka ise andnud,et jooki saada vahest...
millal joomine kuritegevuseks kuulutatakse,
Väga vähe aineid planeedi peal on mis võrdväärselt samaohtlikud on (cräck ja veeni süstimised ehk ainukesena konkureerivad, kuid massi poolest on alkohol ikka nii suurtes mõõtmetes üle, et ei anna mõõta)..
samal ajal kui vele lisaks muule on keelatud need ained, mis aitavad alkoholismist üle saada ja mead, mõistust positiivsuse suunas hoida, tegevuste suunas mis inimestele kasulikud, alturistlikes suundades... ja need asjad keelatud.. need asjad millest läbi ajaloo kõige suuremat kurja tehtud.. neid pätte kardetakse ja nende toodangud müügis, olgugi, et need toodud siia selleks ,et me kultuuri hävitada, ja kontrollida, see pole miski saladus
võõrvõimust ei saa lahti kuni need arulagedused lubatud,
noored naised juba viina vtmisest räägivad, täeisti perverstne olukord
lisaks andakse alkohoolikultele sularaha iga kuu, regulaarselt, toidutalongide asemel... nu mis pull see on...
saab kergesti teha ju toiduostu kaardi uue, millega saab ainult osta kõike peale viina ja suitsu.,
Ja see kui nad need asjad mahamüüvad, et viina saad,a see pole hullu midagi, see juba mentaalne tegevus ja hoiab aju ärksana, kuid kui otse pood isaab viinajärele minna ja üksteiselt käiakse raha lunimas pidevalt, ...
Siin inimesed kellel üle 250 ne iga kuu antakse, lisaks 100% tasuta elamisele ja kommunaalidele,... kellel raha juba poole kuuga otsas ja lunivad teistelt juurde viimast, alatult... nu sedasi ju ei saa..
selle peab muutma, seda lihtne muut.a..
Miks meie raskeima raha, sotsraha.. sedasi kallatakse suitsu ja viina firmadele... see NIII arulugu.. ja oleks siis veel ainetesse, millest nad kasu saaavad..
aga eip..
olema peaks nii, et kes alkoholismiga vahele jäänud, korduvalt, see enam sularaha ei saa, vaid saab teise kaardi..
ja siis tuleb veel sõltlaste eest kaitsta neid kellel on sularaha.. lisaks uksetaga kabas olemisele minnakse ka kallale ja jalanõusigi võetud inimestelt, vaestematelt nõrgematelt...
või neid nad ka ise andnud,et jooki saada vahest...
millal joomine kuritegevuseks kuulutatakse,
Väga vähe aineid planeedi peal on mis võrdväärselt samaohtlikud on (cräck ja veeni süstimised ehk ainukesena konkureerivad, kuid massi poolest on alkohol ikka nii suurtes mõõtmetes üle, et ei anna mõõta)..
samal ajal kui vele lisaks muule on keelatud need ained, mis aitavad alkoholismist üle saada ja mead, mõistust positiivsuse suunas hoida, tegevuste suunas mis inimestele kasulikud, alturistlikes suundades... ja need asjad keelatud.. need asjad millest läbi ajaloo kõige suuremat kurja tehtud.. neid pätte kardetakse ja nende toodangud müügis, olgugi, et need toodud siia selleks ,et me kultuuri hävitada, ja kontrollida, see pole miski saladus
võõrvõimust ei saa lahti kuni need arulagedused lubatud,
noored naised juba viina vtmisest räägivad, täeisti perverstne olukord
17 March 2018 18:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
lisaks peaks likvideerima ühiskonnas keelefashismi,,...
kus sisu oleks enne välimust
ja kus alternatiivvälimus aitaks luua arusaamadesse uut sisu
kus sisu oleks enne välimust
ja kus alternatiivvälimus aitaks luua arusaamadesse uut sisu
17 March 2018 17:17
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Kuid jah, kahjuks sellised eraeluga tänapäeval oldakse, et ei tunta üldse huvi oma kaaslase tegemise osas...
ei soovita tunda, kardetakse tunda, see nõukogu aja Luure eeltöö võimas, kus suruti inimesi, isegi vanemaid "austama" oma laste ja paariliste privaatsust ja siis nad kuni siiamaani oma laste ja meeste tegemisi ei oska arusaad,a ei juge arusaada, et need ÜHISED asjad, kui päris koos olla.
Eriti veidrad varjandid mida ühekorra kohanud olen, on need kes keelduvad eraaasju vaatamast, ja siis kahtlustavad ikka :D (kurb)
kuid yea, üldse ei viitsi vailda ja lunida kedagi omi asju lugema, se peaks olema inimene kes pärislt on huvitatud väga mitmel põhjusel, eelkõige sellepärast, et huvitatult abivalmis armastuses
ei soovita tunda, kardetakse tunda, see nõukogu aja Luure eeltöö võimas, kus suruti inimesi, isegi vanemaid "austama" oma laste ja paariliste privaatsust ja siis nad kuni siiamaani oma laste ja meeste tegemisi ei oska arusaad,a ei juge arusaada, et need ÜHISED asjad, kui päris koos olla.
Eriti veidrad varjandid mida ühekorra kohanud olen, on need kes keelduvad eraaasju vaatamast, ja siis kahtlustavad ikka :D (kurb)
kuid yea, üldse ei viitsi vailda ja lunida kedagi omi asju lugema, se peaks olema inimene kes pärislt on huvitatud väga mitmel põhjusel, eelkõige sellepärast, et huvitatult abivalmis armastuses
17 March 2018 16:04
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
sellised mulle ei meeldi, need saksameelsed, (ja läänemeelsed ka vast kes veel pealiskaudsematena asuvad esiliinile võitlusesse kohe.. ja enne poleks huvi olnutki.. saatanad vast osati ja osati vähestel jah siiras, et "enne eip märganud.." )
Mul meedib ikka Eesti ja müstiliste, süvameltene, või tavalise loodusmeeeltene, siiras ja puhas varjante neli või rohkem mille järgi ennast ümbersättida saaksin. nii, et mu enda olemus alles jääks, kuid üldiselt ikka jah. peaks olem see kes näeb ka seda, mida ma oma potensiaalis näen, ja kui veel einäe siis järjepidavalt täies usus seda uuriks ja küsiks,
ilma, et usupuudulikusega hakkaks visioone rikkuma "mis on võimalik ja mis mitte" ... seda mis pole võimalik olnud olen isegi piisavalt kogenud siani kogu nnde taevaustejuures mis lahtiolnud, ajajooksul, ...vaja seda usku Naist kes oskaks kasutada mind kui Jumala tööriista, kui kaltsulappi kui tarvis, minust välja pigistades ja kasvatades just seda maksimumi mida mailmale kasu oleks minust, kes tunnetaks lendlevate visioonide ja sõnade väärtust erinevate maiste maailmade vahel..
keegi kes tunneks, et ma tema omand ka selles osas, et ka temal sama huvi mis minul ja kui ma ei saa tehtud asju mida vaja siis ka kogu tema elu ... nu kuidas veel neeed asjad siis kes saaks tehtud,
jah keegi teine minusugune kuskil ja see täiesti normaalne valida milline iganes neist, kui sama idee erinevaid osasi nad oma tööda üles ehitvad, kuid kunagi ei tasu öelda, et liialt suurelt mõtlen selles mõttes, et tuelb meeles pidada, sõnasõnalt mis on päriselt võimalik, võttes arvesse kõiki mütoloogiaid ja testamente. Eriti esimest, ainukest.
Nu muidugi peaks ta vast olema suuteline ka selliseid asju lugema... või siis nende asjade korrektsekt kokkuvõtet (nu ja nende kokkuvõtete osas peaks ikka leidma kellegi kellel reaalne huvi, et seda teha saaadaks.... kuid lisaks korrektsele kokkuvõttele, on ikka algset ka vahest vaja... teatud mõttenurkade ja tunnete kajastamiseks, mis tooni a ja suunda annavad, ja kobakirja osas ma ei muretse, las see olla ikkeks neile kellel pole vaja lugeda seda kõike niipalju ,veel. )
Mul meedib ikka Eesti ja müstiliste, süvameltene, või tavalise loodusmeeeltene, siiras ja puhas varjante neli või rohkem mille järgi ennast ümbersättida saaksin. nii, et mu enda olemus alles jääks, kuid üldiselt ikka jah. peaks olem see kes näeb ka seda, mida ma oma potensiaalis näen, ja kui veel einäe siis järjepidavalt täies usus seda uuriks ja küsiks,
ilma, et usupuudulikusega hakkaks visioone rikkuma "mis on võimalik ja mis mitte" ... seda mis pole võimalik olnud olen isegi piisavalt kogenud siani kogu nnde taevaustejuures mis lahtiolnud, ajajooksul, ...vaja seda usku Naist kes oskaks kasutada mind kui Jumala tööriista, kui kaltsulappi kui tarvis, minust välja pigistades ja kasvatades just seda maksimumi mida mailmale kasu oleks minust, kes tunnetaks lendlevate visioonide ja sõnade väärtust erinevate maiste maailmade vahel..
keegi kes tunneks, et ma tema omand ka selles osas, et ka temal sama huvi mis minul ja kui ma ei saa tehtud asju mida vaja siis ka kogu tema elu ... nu kuidas veel neeed asjad siis kes saaks tehtud,
jah keegi teine minusugune kuskil ja see täiesti normaalne valida milline iganes neist, kui sama idee erinevaid osasi nad oma tööda üles ehitvad, kuid kunagi ei tasu öelda, et liialt suurelt mõtlen selles mõttes, et tuelb meeles pidada, sõnasõnalt mis on päriselt võimalik, võttes arvesse kõiki mütoloogiaid ja testamente. Eriti esimest, ainukest.
Nu muidugi peaks ta vast olema suuteline ka selliseid asju lugema... või siis nende asjade korrektsekt kokkuvõtet (nu ja nende kokkuvõtete osas peaks ikka leidma kellegi kellel reaalne huvi, et seda teha saaadaks.... kuid lisaks korrektsele kokkuvõttele, on ikka algset ka vahest vaja... teatud mõttenurkade ja tunnete kajastamiseks, mis tooni a ja suunda annavad, ja kobakirja osas ma ei muretse, las see olla ikkeks neile kellel pole vaja lugeda seda kõike niipalju ,veel. )
17 March 2018 15:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Selles mõttes, tuleb konteksti võtta, et see sots korter, kus enne mind aastaid oldud sedasi, et kui püksi lastud kahekordsetesse, pikkadesse, siis kuid ei vahetata, ja kui kanalisatsioon ülevalt alla ajas ja lainetas... siis seda keegi siiani polnud puhastanud, üks paari milimeetrine roka kord mida sai kraapida kühliga oli põrandale kittinud, pange sees oli lappide all inimeste väljaheited mis arvtavasti ka olnud väga pikka aega... lisaks jooomine, suitsetamine, suvaliste ja kohalike vanade poolt.. ..ja siis lastakse aurusi .. aastaid... nu selline oli too koht mis anti... wetsu pott enne mind oli ka maaküljest lahti ja siis lasti siia ja sinna ja...
kuid see kõik ei puutu otseselt teeemasse,
mote oli, et saadaks aru, et töö ja toidu vahendid, ja kõik käepärane peab ümberringi olema, käeulatuses, ja mittesuht midagi mis pole ülearune üldiselt sellistes settingutes..
kuid olnud inimesi, kes siis ei oska arusaada, Teistsuguse töökeskonna ja ruumi settingut.
erinevate kiiksudega inimesed, kes tahavad, et laud oleks algsetingus mis poest tuuakse, et siis on "ilus"
mul aga ilus kui on kõik käepärast ja saab jätkata tööd mis vja., et ta oleks silme all, muidu uued tuuled, sest vaimupõhisel tööl on vaja, et osad asjad on silmeall pidevalt ja leitavad
Hmm selituseks, siis , konteksti.
Lisaks on aegajal magamiskotis palju parem magada kui linadevahel,
(kuid kuna sin olukord selline aroomikas olnud, siis linad hoian kilesse pakitult õhukindlalt, nagu muid riideid mis võimalik... kuid selleks ajaks kui ma siit lahkun, mis varsti, peaks olukord olema parandatud enamuses.... eile sundisin toakaaslase kakluse äärepeal olles porgandiks ja koos kogu riiete ja tekitkottidega kõik pessu sai pandud lopuks, nu natukenegi..)
kuid see kõik ei puutu otseselt teeemasse,
mote oli, et saadaks aru, et töö ja toidu vahendid, ja kõik käepärane peab ümberringi olema, käeulatuses, ja mittesuht midagi mis pole ülearune üldiselt sellistes settingutes..
kuid olnud inimesi, kes siis ei oska arusaada, Teistsuguse töökeskonna ja ruumi settingut.
erinevate kiiksudega inimesed, kes tahavad, et laud oleks algsetingus mis poest tuuakse, et siis on "ilus"
mul aga ilus kui on kõik käepärast ja saab jätkata tööd mis vja., et ta oleks silme all, muidu uued tuuled, sest vaimupõhisel tööl on vaja, et osad asjad on silmeall pidevalt ja leitavad
Hmm selituseks, siis , konteksti.
Lisaks on aegajal magamiskotis palju parem magada kui linadevahel,
(kuid kuna sin olukord selline aroomikas olnud, siis linad hoian kilesse pakitult õhukindlalt, nagu muid riideid mis võimalik... kuid selleks ajaks kui ma siit lahkun, mis varsti, peaks olukord olema parandatud enamuses.... eile sundisin toakaaslase kakluse äärepeal olles porgandiks ja koos kogu riiete ja tekitkottidega kõik pessu sai pandud lopuks, nu natukenegi..)
17 March 2018 15:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ehk siis alati, enamasti ei pea, pole huvi ega tunnet eri tööperioodidel, valgete linukute ja suure nõudehulgajärgi.
Oluline, et inimene saaks aru, et see on puhas ja väga hea,
Suht kõrg tase,
Kui seda märgata ei osata, eriti veel olukorras mis on, siis kohe paljudes muudes asjades ka oleks liialt palju pinget,
ehk siis kui need asjad siiamaani absoluutselt või "miks ka mitte" formaadis on, siis võime jätkata,
Mu meile ja kirjavahetusi on umbes sadu lehti ja nendest isiklikku päris suur osa,
lisaks veel sadu tuhandeid muid teateid mille kuidagi hiljem organiseerida proovime, kuid see pole praegu oluliseim,
oluline on, et see mis oluline, ehk kõik mis seotud päris inimeste päris sündmustega, nähtuste ja tegemistega oleks lõpuks organiseeritud,
kuid eelkõige isikliku osas peaks päevast päeva läbikammima minevikku, et vajalikku säält üleskorjata, sellest mis olnud ja kontrollimaks kuidas nüüd aru saan, vb märge või arenguplaan pannna selles osas, kuidas jõuda vajalikule arusaaamale, sidemesse uuesti inimestega kes olnud tuttavad, mida olulisemad, seda varem..
samalajal päevakajaste ja tulevaste visioonide sisu hallata seostades seda eelneva või planeeritava materialiga,
kuid kõik need osad mis keerulised tundusid, on täitsa lihtsalt tehtavad kui huvi ja rahulikus on, ehk mulle ka teada kuidas hoida rahulikuses
Oluline, et inimene saaks aru, et see on puhas ja väga hea,
Suht kõrg tase,
Kui seda märgata ei osata, eriti veel olukorras mis on, siis kohe paljudes muudes asjades ka oleks liialt palju pinget,
ehk siis kui need asjad siiamaani absoluutselt või "miks ka mitte" formaadis on, siis võime jätkata,
Mu meile ja kirjavahetusi on umbes sadu lehti ja nendest isiklikku päris suur osa,
lisaks veel sadu tuhandeid muid teateid mille kuidagi hiljem organiseerida proovime, kuid see pole praegu oluliseim,
oluline on, et see mis oluline, ehk kõik mis seotud päris inimeste päris sündmustega, nähtuste ja tegemistega oleks lõpuks organiseeritud,
kuid eelkõige isikliku osas peaks päevast päeva läbikammima minevikku, et vajalikku säält üleskorjata, sellest mis olnud ja kontrollimaks kuidas nüüd aru saan, vb märge või arenguplaan pannna selles osas, kuidas jõuda vajalikule arusaaamale, sidemesse uuesti inimestega kes olnud tuttavad, mida olulisemad, seda varem..
samalajal päevakajaste ja tulevaste visioonide sisu hallata seostades seda eelneva või planeeritava materialiga,
kuid kõik need osad mis keerulised tundusid, on täitsa lihtsalt tehtavad kui huvi ja rahulikus on, ehk mulle ka teada kuidas hoida rahulikuses
17 March 2018 04:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
17 March 2018 04:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja peaksime mõistma, et on öötöö
öötöööpäev... aegajalt teitsa norm, millal iganes on tuju ja võimalus,, nendes asjades kus vaja
//need asjad veel mõtestamisel, kas on päriselt öö olemas ja kas on parem osasi asju öösel teha, ning mitu eri ajasektorit on päevades, kui on, ning mis moodi - kas on võimalik päeva-rikkuda ja mida rikutud päeval tha, peale magamise, v piisab sellest... seda veel mõtlen, kuigi enamasti magamine kuskile maale näib asjad parandavat, kuid nagu ütlesin, siin veel vaja mõelda,
PS: toa osas, see osa pildist ainult moeldud symboolselt, esemete / olukorra paigutus
öötöööpäev... aegajalt teitsa norm, millal iganes on tuju ja võimalus,, nendes asjades kus vaja
//need asjad veel mõtestamisel, kas on päriselt öö olemas ja kas on parem osasi asju öösel teha, ning mitu eri ajasektorit on päevades, kui on, ning mis moodi - kas on võimalik päeva-rikkuda ja mida rikutud päeval tha, peale magamise, v piisab sellest... seda veel mõtlen, kuigi enamasti magamine kuskile maale näib asjad parandavat, kuid nagu ütlesin, siin veel vaja mõelda,
PS: toa osas, see osa pildist ainult moeldud symboolselt, esemete / olukorra paigutus
17 March 2018 04:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
17 March 2018 04:02
Margus Meigo replied to Son Maix's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
oot aga kas me siis puuotsa hakkame tirima neid (mitte lipsupidi) või see teema praegu veel ootel, kuna aru tuleb alsatutel pähe ajaga muudmoodi?17 March 2018 03:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid nu kodanikupalk nsvl dult nagunii tuleb ehk asjalikele kodanikele, kelle hingel on väärtus, mingisugunegi kellegi ausa inimese arvates,
eks siin anna algorütme väljamõelda kuidas millistst ausatest pihta hakata kellest edasi järgmistele kodanikupalk levib kellest nad hoolivad, see...kindlustab palju muuud ka
eks siin anna algorütme väljamõelda kuidas millistst ausatest pihta hakata kellest edasi järgmistele kodanikupalk levib kellest nad hoolivad, see...kindlustab palju muuud ka
17 March 2018 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Tamm's post.
Pensionäärid kauges tulevikus tuleks penisonist ka vabastada
17 March 2018 03:37
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Tamm's comment.
Su vastus selle posti päris heaks tegi : )
17 March 2018 03:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
pluss see video kui yles joab nimbin abin
17 March 2018 01:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(kuna mul pole selles maailmas mateeriat, jõudu siis saan kehastuda, kehtestada ennast ainult kui mul olukord selleks loodud on mis kindlustab, et tegutsemise ajal-lõpus on seisund parem kui alguses-praegu. Muidu kohe jooksevad mul mitmed erinevad lukud peale. Seda väga keeruline siiralt seletada mis olukord mul on ja mis võimalused minuga kaasnevad ja mis on mu enda arvates kõige ilmselgemad lahendused, millele ma ise ligi ei saa üksida, sest nii pole loodutki, et saaksin.
Kuid see on peamine: kõikidest pahandustega setud iniemstest tuleb adekvaatne andmebaas teha, privaatne ja aavalik, kus info kuni nende pereliikmeteni ja seotud inimeste, kodukohtadeni )
Kuid see on peamine: kõikidest pahandustega setud iniemstest tuleb adekvaatne andmebaas teha, privaatne ja aavalik, kus info kuni nende pereliikmeteni ja seotud inimeste, kodukohtadeni )
16 March 2018 19:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See esimene kiri mis Sulle läbi sain,
üle 10 ne korra provinud kirjutada, emaile ja... mingi nähtamatu käsi ei luba
üle 10 ne korra provinud kirjutada, emaile ja... mingi nähtamatu käsi ei luba
16 March 2018 19:12
Margus Meigo commented on Rea Raus's post.
Nende PR mehed nii kavalad nüüd uuudistes, et nad meelega ei maini Tartut ega emajõge, selline käsklus neil antud enamustel,
panin just seda muudatust tähele mõned päevad tagasi ... ja segatakse informatsiooni kanaleid. Nii, et inimesed pole kindlad millest juttu kui heliuudis tuleb.
Mind ei rakendata kahjuks täismahus tööle, käsklusi andma, seega minu käed seotud, ma ainult vaim mis saab toimida läbi teiste.
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Silme ees on kujutlus pildid mis maagiat ja kuidas kasutatakse, et millega seda läbisuruda proovitakse, kuid ei saa seletada seda
panin just seda muudatust tähele mõned päevad tagasi ... ja segatakse informatsiooni kanaleid. Nii, et inimesed pole kindlad millest juttu kui heliuudis tuleb.
Mind ei rakendata kahjuks täismahus tööle, käsklusi andma, seega minu käed seotud, ma ainult vaim mis saab toimida läbi teiste.
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Silme ees on kujutlus pildid mis maagiat ja kuidas kasutatakse, et millega seda läbisuruda proovitakse, kuid ei saa seletada seda
16 March 2018 19:10
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
Nu mul arvutis tegelikult päris mitusada klippi mis ka plaanis sheerida..
16 March 2018 18:10
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
Et kui sooviaid on.. siis ikka :p
16 March 2018 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
This top of all other things, he was asking for it,
only thing missing would have been spiritual revelations but i guess messing with forces of finance is enough to broke a straw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYWdzigyzNk
only thing missing would have been spiritual revelations but i guess messing with forces of finance is enough to broke a straw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYWdzigyzNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYWdzigyzNk
16 March 2018 17:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so probably more then right now
16 March 2018 17:01
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
As far as my voice reaches
16 March 2018 17:00
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
Nu se ongi, suts ulme segamentidega, me ikka tulnukad algsed.. meil siin paljud asjad ammu olemas olid.. kuidas muidu kõigi nende suurte vallutajatega hakkama saime..
16 March 2018 17:00
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
Kahjuks ma ei jõudnudki temaga seeni võtta või neid soovitada... (see plaan aastaid oli...), et ta tarkused uuele tasemele viia ja vajaliku pärimuskultuuri ja mõtoloogiaga sisustada
16 March 2018 16:59
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
:D
16 March 2018 16:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ooh.. seda juba kirjutati alumises kommis, märkasin nüüd just alles :D
16 March 2018 16:56
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
Emm.. see, et ma ei soovi oma jalgu otsast külmutada ...
16 March 2018 16:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Kõnõtraat. Sõnad ja muusika Jan Rahman. Laulavad Põlva segakoorid: Kevadised Hetked ja kammerkoor Maarja. Saade: ansambel Folkräüss. Laul II Uma Pido (29. mai, 2010, Intsikurmu) ühendkooride repertuaarist."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvf77q4XbFc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvf77q4XbFc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvf77q4XbFc
16 March 2018 16:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"THE ROAD TO THE DICTATED PEACE "
" The Hungarian people originated from two ancient short or round
-
headed variants which had the same ancient forefathers. Throughout the millennia they have branched into five different races.
1. The Caucasian or Turanid
race which is also known as the Alföld Hungarian race.
2. The Dinaric or Sout hern Hungarian race which is the twin variant of the Alföld race.
3. The Eastern Baltic or Baltic Hungarian race which was formed around the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea.
4. The Alpine Hungarian race.
5. The Taurid or Hittite Hungarian race. "
----
French anthropologist, identified these skulls with those
of the Ugor type of people. Tschepurkovsky also calls them the Rjäsan
type and Bunok calls them the Ural type. (Bártucz, p. 378) Yet the Finno-Ugric
theorists still state that the short
-
headed Hungarians are the
descendants of this long -headed Ugor race. According to Bunak: „The origin of this race cannot go back more than four centuries.” (Bártucz, p.379)
Now based on the above -mentioned facts, the question arises:
For what reason do the Finno-Ugric
theorists try to originate the Magyars from this long
-
headed race? Many scientists identify the race
which was discovered by Bogdanof with the Ugors.
The difference
between the long-headed and short-headed is most obvious among the long-headed Ostyaks.
The Alpine race has been called many different names. This
proves that this race is spread widely among all the peoples of Europe.
The Alpine race differs only slightly from the other races of Europe.
This is why its place of origin has not yet been finally determined. The
members of this race are characteristically stout, stocky, with a wide face, wide short neck, wide long trunk and short legs, arms and fingers
// eila just kohtasin selle rassi inimest,
http://www.magtudin.org/Botos_Laszlo_The_Road_to_the_Dictated_Peace.pdf
Niisma keele ja kultuuri huvilistele seotud hittidega ja selle ülikooli teiste projektidega : https://www.lib.uchicago.edu/efts/ARTFL/projects/hittite/PITA.html
" The Hungarian people originated from two ancient short or round
-
headed variants which had the same ancient forefathers. Throughout the millennia they have branched into five different races.
1. The Caucasian or Turanid
race which is also known as the Alföld Hungarian race.
2. The Dinaric or Sout hern Hungarian race which is the twin variant of the Alföld race.
3. The Eastern Baltic or Baltic Hungarian race which was formed around the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea.
4. The Alpine Hungarian race.
5. The Taurid or Hittite Hungarian race. "
----
French anthropologist, identified these skulls with those
of the Ugor type of people. Tschepurkovsky also calls them the Rjäsan
type and Bunok calls them the Ural type. (Bártucz, p. 378) Yet the Finno-Ugric
theorists still state that the short
-
headed Hungarians are the
descendants of this long -headed Ugor race. According to Bunak: „The origin of this race cannot go back more than four centuries.” (Bártucz, p.379)
Now based on the above -mentioned facts, the question arises:
For what reason do the Finno-Ugric
theorists try to originate the Magyars from this long
-
headed race? Many scientists identify the race
which was discovered by Bogdanof with the Ugors.
The difference
between the long-headed and short-headed is most obvious among the long-headed Ostyaks.
The Alpine race has been called many different names. This
proves that this race is spread widely among all the peoples of Europe.
The Alpine race differs only slightly from the other races of Europe.
This is why its place of origin has not yet been finally determined. The
members of this race are characteristically stout, stocky, with a wide face, wide short neck, wide long trunk and short legs, arms and fingers
// eila just kohtasin selle rassi inimest,
http://www.magtudin.org/Botos_Laszlo_The_Road_to_the_Dictated_Peace.pdf
Niisma keele ja kultuuri huvilistele seotud hittidega ja selle ülikooli teiste projektidega : https://www.lib.uchicago.edu/efts/ARTFL/projects/hittite/PITA.html
16 March 2018 15:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Baltic and Hittie..
"..After the harvest, however, Jarilo is unfaithful to his wife, and she vengefully slays him (returns him into the underworld), renewing the enmity between Perun and Veles. Without her husband, god of fertility and vegetation, Morana — and all of nature with her — withers and freezes in the upcoming winter; she turns into a terrible, old, and dangerous goddess of darkness and frost, and eventually dies by the end of the year. The whole myth would repeat itself anew each following year, and retelling of its key parts was accompanied by the major yearly festivals of the Slavic calendar. The story also shows numerous parallels to similar myths of Baltic and Hittite mythology. .."
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Slavic_mythology.html
"..After the harvest, however, Jarilo is unfaithful to his wife, and she vengefully slays him (returns him into the underworld), renewing the enmity between Perun and Veles. Without her husband, god of fertility and vegetation, Morana — and all of nature with her — withers and freezes in the upcoming winter; she turns into a terrible, old, and dangerous goddess of darkness and frost, and eventually dies by the end of the year. The whole myth would repeat itself anew each following year, and retelling of its key parts was accompanied by the major yearly festivals of the Slavic calendar. The story also shows numerous parallels to similar myths of Baltic and Hittite mythology. .."
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Slavic_mythology.html
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Slavic_mythology.html
16 March 2018 15:02
Margus Meigo replied to Lele Reinsoo's comment.
Ei nu ma ise suht positiivne, ise ikka ka nii ammu arvama peab,
kuid sellegi poolest, harjumatu kuulata kui tegelikus reaalsuses siiamaani ennast reaalselt üksi veel hoidnud, st ei kedagi keda näinud oleks, kellele täiesti normaalne millal iganes mida iganes head sõnumineerida, helistada, kirjutada, joonistada, mõelda või koos teha.
Nu eks ma sula mõndaaega, kuid nu.. natuke ajab ikka segadusse igast mineviku segaduste tõttu vast, kus maailm harjutanud korduvate piitsutamistega nende poolt, kes nii kenasti varem öelnud on
kuid sellegi poolest, harjumatu kuulata kui tegelikus reaalsuses siiamaani ennast reaalselt üksi veel hoidnud, st ei kedagi keda näinud oleks, kellele täiesti normaalne millal iganes mida iganes head sõnumineerida, helistada, kirjutada, joonistada, mõelda või koos teha.
Nu eks ma sula mõndaaega, kuid nu.. natuke ajab ikka segadusse igast mineviku segaduste tõttu vast, kus maailm harjutanud korduvate piitsutamistega nende poolt, kes nii kenasti varem öelnud on
16 March 2018 14:53
Margus Meigo replied to Lele Reinsoo's comment.
Lele Reinsoo Oeh 😊😚😘
16 March 2018 14:50
Margus Meigo replied to Lele Reinsoo's comment.
Kui ma teada saan et keegi päriselt ka vaatab,
nu juba, enne seda kui miskit teha saanud olen.. nu siis see natuke kohmetumaks teeb, vist,
vot, eip ole kindel selle idee harjumisega, et kellegile päriselt ka meeldiks :D
nu juba, enne seda kui miskit teha saanud olen.. nu siis see natuke kohmetumaks teeb, vist,
vot, eip ole kindel selle idee harjumisega, et kellegile päriselt ka meeldiks :D
16 March 2018 14:45
Margus Meigo replied to Lele Reinsoo's comment.
Lele Reinsoo Oh... see hakkab kõlama juba peaaegu nagu postiivne meelitav kompliment,
Kuigi ... eks ma pea kohanema selle mõttega, ei rutta liiga hästi ka mõtlema, kuid kindlasti mitte ka ei eelda hullemat :p
Kuigi ... eks ma pea kohanema selle mõttega, ei rutta liiga hästi ka mõtlema, kuid kindlasti mitte ka ei eelda hullemat :p
16 March 2018 14:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The middle of the 1st millennium BC is believed to have been the most prosperous epoch of Slavs. At that time they did not suffer significant external threat, were spreading freely to the east, west and south, though remaining in forest zone. Filin, one of the greatest Soviet linguists, used the linguistic data to prove that Slavs always lived far from the sea, in the region of forests and swamps, and the names for different trees and plants common for all Slavic languages proved the exact region was without any doubt between the Western Bug and the Middle Dnepr.
Slavic settlements of that period of time show little fortification, they were situated mainly along the rivers near the forest where Slavs could hunt, fish and cultivate the land. Archaeological cultures which are included by most linguists into the Slavic area, are namely Lusatian, Belogrudovo, Chernolesje, Forest Scythian. Slavic peoples had wide contacts with their neighbours: Baltic relatives in the north and north-west, Finno-Ugric hunters in the east, where now Central Russia is situated, then Indo-Iranian nomadic peoples in the south, in Steppes region, Thracians (Dacians) in the south-west, on the other side of the Dnestr and the Prut, and other Indo-European communities: Illyrians, Celts, maybe even Venetians who contacted with Slavs on their western borders. All these contacts were both economic and cultural, anthropological and linguistic, and influenced the language much with vocabulary, phonetics and morphology.
At the end of the BC era and in the first centuries AD the Slavic nation, represented by Przewor, Chernyakhovo and Zarubinets archaeological cultures, were still unified, though some dialectal differences in the language must have appeared among them. And finally in the 5th century the migration of Slavic tribes to the west and south, following the fall of the Roman Empire, put an end to the Common Slavic, and since then three branches of it began their separate development in the south, in the west, in the east.
Common Slavic is reconstructed and based on comparative studies of all Slavic languages, both ancient and modern. The laws of the reconstruction are determined by many famous linguists, and therefore the Common Slavic was described already in the previous century. But the research is still going on, and we hope that our contribution can be useful for those who wishes to go deeper into Slavic and Indo-European linguistics. "
http://babaev.tripod.com/archive/grammar31.html
"..As for other processes, we can point some of them: ê after j, s, š, z', c' turned into a (*c'êsü > c'asü "an hour"); this very ê became o before the sound v in unstressed position. Phonemes y, ü, ï, ê could not start the word - they required v or j before them (Indo-European *@n- > vün "into"; Indo-European *él-n- > jêlênï "deer"). I would like to stress that all these processes took place on late stages of Common Slavic existence, and reflected the development of the language, which can't be stagnant.
_________________________
Now the consonants which are also interesting. Here Slavic people was too tired to invent new sounds or just to pronounce original Indo-European ones; we simplified all that. The Proto-language used several sets of fricative consonants: normal, palatal, aspirated, palatal aspirated, labiovelar, labiovelar aspirated. It looked quite like this: k, k', kh, k'h, kw, kwh (or khw). I just cannot imagine how Slavs can pronounce all that; actually, only the minority of Indo-European nations keep some of the above forms, and none preserves all. Greek and Sanskrit had aspirants, Latin and Hittite had labiovelars. Slavic has only g and k, and now try to say that Slavic is difficult to learn!
Here is the table of early Common Slavic consonants with their Proto-Indo-European correspondences:
http://babaev.tripod.com/archive/grammar31.html
Slavic settlements of that period of time show little fortification, they were situated mainly along the rivers near the forest where Slavs could hunt, fish and cultivate the land. Archaeological cultures which are included by most linguists into the Slavic area, are namely Lusatian, Belogrudovo, Chernolesje, Forest Scythian. Slavic peoples had wide contacts with their neighbours: Baltic relatives in the north and north-west, Finno-Ugric hunters in the east, where now Central Russia is situated, then Indo-Iranian nomadic peoples in the south, in Steppes region, Thracians (Dacians) in the south-west, on the other side of the Dnestr and the Prut, and other Indo-European communities: Illyrians, Celts, maybe even Venetians who contacted with Slavs on their western borders. All these contacts were both economic and cultural, anthropological and linguistic, and influenced the language much with vocabulary, phonetics and morphology.
At the end of the BC era and in the first centuries AD the Slavic nation, represented by Przewor, Chernyakhovo and Zarubinets archaeological cultures, were still unified, though some dialectal differences in the language must have appeared among them. And finally in the 5th century the migration of Slavic tribes to the west and south, following the fall of the Roman Empire, put an end to the Common Slavic, and since then three branches of it began their separate development in the south, in the west, in the east.
Common Slavic is reconstructed and based on comparative studies of all Slavic languages, both ancient and modern. The laws of the reconstruction are determined by many famous linguists, and therefore the Common Slavic was described already in the previous century. But the research is still going on, and we hope that our contribution can be useful for those who wishes to go deeper into Slavic and Indo-European linguistics. "
http://babaev.tripod.com/archive/grammar31.html
"..As for other processes, we can point some of them: ê after j, s, š, z', c' turned into a (*c'êsü > c'asü "an hour"); this very ê became o before the sound v in unstressed position. Phonemes y, ü, ï, ê could not start the word - they required v or j before them (Indo-European *@n- > vün "into"; Indo-European *él-n- > jêlênï "deer"). I would like to stress that all these processes took place on late stages of Common Slavic existence, and reflected the development of the language, which can't be stagnant.
_________________________
Now the consonants which are also interesting. Here Slavic people was too tired to invent new sounds or just to pronounce original Indo-European ones; we simplified all that. The Proto-language used several sets of fricative consonants: normal, palatal, aspirated, palatal aspirated, labiovelar, labiovelar aspirated. It looked quite like this: k, k', kh, k'h, kw, kwh (or khw). I just cannot imagine how Slavs can pronounce all that; actually, only the minority of Indo-European nations keep some of the above forms, and none preserves all. Greek and Sanskrit had aspirants, Latin and Hittite had labiovelars. Slavic has only g and k, and now try to say that Slavic is difficult to learn!
Here is the table of early Common Slavic consonants with their Proto-Indo-European correspondences:
http://babaev.tripod.com/archive/grammar31.html
http://babaev.tripod.com/archive/grammar31.html
16 March 2018 14:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hittidest poole sonaga veel..
"This archaeological succession of cultures provides a credible trail from the North Pontic steppes to Anatolia. Indo-Europeanists are agreed that the
first
branch to separate from PIE is the Anatolian
one: it comprizes Hittite, Luvian
and Palaic —which have been recorded since the 16th century BCE— and their
successors; all these IE languages of Anatolia died out in antiquity (
http://www.sgr.fi/sust/sust266/sust266_parpola.pdf
"This archaeological succession of cultures provides a credible trail from the North Pontic steppes to Anatolia. Indo-Europeanists are agreed that the
first
branch to separate from PIE is the Anatolian
one: it comprizes Hittite, Luvian
and Palaic —which have been recorded since the 16th century BCE— and their
successors; all these IE languages of Anatolia died out in antiquity (
http://www.sgr.fi/sust/sust266/sust266_parpola.pdf
16 March 2018 14:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Veel paari sõnaga olulist, millele lähemale siit ja säält jõudma hakatakse..:
"...meant that we were, in that religion, partly in a world
that was not characteristically Indo-European, but
which was somehow linked with shamanism in its widest sense. I recently wrote a little
book on the Druids, and in it had to consider
whether there was a shamanistic element in
Celtic religion: with Eliade, I had thought
there was none, but his book set me thinking in
wider terms. The probability of Finno-Ugrian el
ements in Sanskrit would of course give just
the links needed between the two worlds.
// Lähedal olete... juba päris lähedal.. suunalt, eks me siin maal isegi arva, et me need kes need tarkused sia ja sinna kandis..
___
".. What Piggott actually says in his book
The Druids
is that the "Celtic tradition in Ireland
conserved untouched archaisms in language, ideas
and even prosody which have their counterparts
in Sanskrit or Hittite, and we must be seeing fragme
nts of a common heritage that goes back to the
second millennium B.C
http://www.psilosophy.info/resources/amanitas_writings5.pdf
"...meant that we were, in that religion, partly in a world
that was not characteristically Indo-European, but
which was somehow linked with shamanism in its widest sense. I recently wrote a little
book on the Druids, and in it had to consider
whether there was a shamanistic element in
Celtic religion: with Eliade, I had thought
there was none, but his book set me thinking in
wider terms. The probability of Finno-Ugrian el
ements in Sanskrit would of course give just
the links needed between the two worlds.
// Lähedal olete... juba päris lähedal.. suunalt, eks me siin maal isegi arva, et me need kes need tarkused sia ja sinna kandis..
___
".. What Piggott actually says in his book
The Druids
is that the "Celtic tradition in Ireland
conserved untouched archaisms in language, ideas
and even prosody which have their counterparts
in Sanskrit or Hittite, and we must be seeing fragme
nts of a common heritage that goes back to the
second millennium B.C
http://www.psilosophy.info/resources/amanitas_writings5.pdf
16 March 2018 14:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muud kaudselt seotud,
"Although Berber (also known as Amazigh) homelands have been occupied by Semites who have discriminated them against for many centuries, those that survive deep in the interior of the Sahara have retained more of their racial, cultural and linguistic purity. Berber is still spoken by peasants in the countryside, as one would expect of a nation conquered by Semites. Aryans were terrified into accepting Semitic religions in the same way that Conquistadors converted the Indians of America. The last to succumb were the peasants (pagan means peasant).
Will Berber languages become extinct before linguists investigate whether Indo-European is more closely related to Berber than to the Cro-magnon languages (Finno-Ugaric, Causcasian, Basque, Semitic, etc.)? Will linguists and geneticists who study the Berbers discover that all Aryan languages originated in Hamitic Africa?
A couple of high-spirited Algerians whom I encountered bar-hopping a few weeks ago told me that "Berbers look exactly like Europeans"
http://www.geocities.ws/anthropogenesis/
"Although Berber (also known as Amazigh) homelands have been occupied by Semites who have discriminated them against for many centuries, those that survive deep in the interior of the Sahara have retained more of their racial, cultural and linguistic purity. Berber is still spoken by peasants in the countryside, as one would expect of a nation conquered by Semites. Aryans were terrified into accepting Semitic religions in the same way that Conquistadors converted the Indians of America. The last to succumb were the peasants (pagan means peasant).
Will Berber languages become extinct before linguists investigate whether Indo-European is more closely related to Berber than to the Cro-magnon languages (Finno-Ugaric, Causcasian, Basque, Semitic, etc.)? Will linguists and geneticists who study the Berbers discover that all Aryan languages originated in Hamitic Africa?
A couple of high-spirited Algerians whom I encountered bar-hopping a few weeks ago told me that "Berbers look exactly like Europeans"
http://www.geocities.ws/anthropogenesis/
http://www.geocities.ws/anthropogenesis/
16 March 2018 14:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
lihtsalt midagi mis muuseas ka välja tuli:
eestlastele jällegi huvi pakkuv suts ja aitab ühendada neid kultuure, MEIE inimesi, kes loodus meelsusega, naise meelsusega. :
"...Such weaponry and martial mobility combined to give the Proto-Indo-Europeans military supremacy over most other peoples of prehistory. Their desire for ever larger herds and for more pastureland motivated war and raiding on even larger scales, and ultimately led to the expansion of the Indo-European peoples from the original P-I-E homeland, until Indo-
Europeans possessed and ruled over most of the territory from Iceland to India. In Europe,
only the Finno-Ugrian peoples (Finns, Lapps (actually they prefer Sami), Estonians,
Hungarians) and the Basques were not subjected to Indo-European conquest, while in Asia, the great civilizations of the Ancient Near East- Sumerians, Babylonians, Assyrians, and others – were able to resist for the most part, although certain Indo-European groups, most
notably the Mitanni and the Kassite’s, were able to establish successful empires for a time.
“Death, War and Sacrifice, pgs. 2, 3.
The archaeological and genetic evidence shows that these “neighbors” were matrilineal in
birth lines (further information in the Mother Creator section). There is no evidence that these
agriculture, artist, craftsmen cultures ever had a matriarchy (mother ruled), but rather were
equalitarian oriented. The agriculturalists did not build fortified villages and cities. They did not
build temples. They did not build funeral tombs or have stelae depicting war victories. These
people were primarily peaceful, raised livestock in small amounts, depicted nature in their
artwork, were very knowledgeable about the plant life around them, had homes that were
equal in structure (there are no homes that stand out as being the homes of those with high
status). These agriculturalists had developed weaving, metallurgy, ceramics, etc. “ ‘Old
Europeans never tried to live in inconvenient places such as high, steep hills, as did the later
Indo-Europeans who built hill forts in inaccessible places and frequently surrounded their hill
sites with cyclopean stone walls,’ reports Gimbutas. ‘Old European locations were chosen for
their beautiful setting, good water and soil, and availability of animal pastures. Vinca, Butmir,
Petresti, and Cucuteni settlement areas are remarkable for their excellent views of the
environs, but not for their defensive value. The characteristic absence of fortifications and of
thrusting weapons speaks for the peaceful character of most of these art-loving peoples.’ “
The Chalice and the Blade, pg. 13.
“Remarkably, archaeological surveys show a blank in the Balkan uplands after this: No
permanent settlements can be dated in the Balkans between 3900 and 3300 BC. At Hotnitsa
in north-central Bulgaria, the burned houses of the final Copper Age occupation contained
human skeletons interpreted as massacred inhabitants. The final Copper Age destruction
level at Yunatsite, west of Karanovo, contained forty-six human skeletons, also interpreted as
a massacre. Balkan copper mines abruptly ceased production – copper-using cultures in
central Europe and the Carpathians switched to Serbian ores about 4000 BC, at the
beginning of the Bodrogkeresztur culture in Hungary. Metal objects now were made using
new arsenical bronze alloys, and were of new types, including new weapons, importantly
daggers.
http://www.lebtahor.com/StumblingBlocks/Worthless%20Deities%20In%20The%20Hebrew%20Text.pdf
// Siit sain ma oma tütrele nime:
" Hattian – Estan, the mother goddess of Hatti, prior to the Hittites, later became the Goddess
of Arinna (Spring fed pool), known as the Sun Goddess of Arinna, a major Hattian city close to
Hattusas, which became the Hittite capitol. She is the Mother goddess before the PIE Hittites
subjugated them and diminished the mother in their mythology. She is related to the pre-
Hurrian HannaHannah and Khebat. She is called the Mistress of the Hatti lands, Queen of
heaven and earth and of all countries. “The mother goddesses were responsible for the
creation of humanity and for birth in general, while the goddesses of fate determined human
destiny.” Anatolia section of Religions of the Ancient World, pg. 404. The Hittites later change
her to a male and the deity name is then Istanu, the male sun god. "
f
eestlastele jällegi huvi pakkuv suts ja aitab ühendada neid kultuure, MEIE inimesi, kes loodus meelsusega, naise meelsusega. :
"...Such weaponry and martial mobility combined to give the Proto-Indo-Europeans military supremacy over most other peoples of prehistory. Their desire for ever larger herds and for more pastureland motivated war and raiding on even larger scales, and ultimately led to the expansion of the Indo-European peoples from the original P-I-E homeland, until Indo-
Europeans possessed and ruled over most of the territory from Iceland to India. In Europe,
only the Finno-Ugrian peoples (Finns, Lapps (actually they prefer Sami), Estonians,
Hungarians) and the Basques were not subjected to Indo-European conquest, while in Asia, the great civilizations of the Ancient Near East- Sumerians, Babylonians, Assyrians, and others – were able to resist for the most part, although certain Indo-European groups, most
notably the Mitanni and the Kassite’s, were able to establish successful empires for a time.
“Death, War and Sacrifice, pgs. 2, 3.
The archaeological and genetic evidence shows that these “neighbors” were matrilineal in
birth lines (further information in the Mother Creator section). There is no evidence that these
agriculture, artist, craftsmen cultures ever had a matriarchy (mother ruled), but rather were
equalitarian oriented. The agriculturalists did not build fortified villages and cities. They did not
build temples. They did not build funeral tombs or have stelae depicting war victories. These
people were primarily peaceful, raised livestock in small amounts, depicted nature in their
artwork, were very knowledgeable about the plant life around them, had homes that were
equal in structure (there are no homes that stand out as being the homes of those with high
status). These agriculturalists had developed weaving, metallurgy, ceramics, etc. “ ‘Old
Europeans never tried to live in inconvenient places such as high, steep hills, as did the later
Indo-Europeans who built hill forts in inaccessible places and frequently surrounded their hill
sites with cyclopean stone walls,’ reports Gimbutas. ‘Old European locations were chosen for
their beautiful setting, good water and soil, and availability of animal pastures. Vinca, Butmir,
Petresti, and Cucuteni settlement areas are remarkable for their excellent views of the
environs, but not for their defensive value. The characteristic absence of fortifications and of
thrusting weapons speaks for the peaceful character of most of these art-loving peoples.’ “
The Chalice and the Blade, pg. 13.
“Remarkably, archaeological surveys show a blank in the Balkan uplands after this: No
permanent settlements can be dated in the Balkans between 3900 and 3300 BC. At Hotnitsa
in north-central Bulgaria, the burned houses of the final Copper Age occupation contained
human skeletons interpreted as massacred inhabitants. The final Copper Age destruction
level at Yunatsite, west of Karanovo, contained forty-six human skeletons, also interpreted as
a massacre. Balkan copper mines abruptly ceased production – copper-using cultures in
central Europe and the Carpathians switched to Serbian ores about 4000 BC, at the
beginning of the Bodrogkeresztur culture in Hungary. Metal objects now were made using
new arsenical bronze alloys, and were of new types, including new weapons, importantly
daggers.
http://www.lebtahor.com/StumblingBlocks/Worthless%20Deities%20In%20The%20Hebrew%20Text.pdf
// Siit sain ma oma tütrele nime:
" Hattian – Estan, the mother goddess of Hatti, prior to the Hittites, later became the Goddess
of Arinna (Spring fed pool), known as the Sun Goddess of Arinna, a major Hattian city close to
Hattusas, which became the Hittite capitol. She is the Mother goddess before the PIE Hittites
subjugated them and diminished the mother in their mythology. She is related to the pre-
Hurrian HannaHannah and Khebat. She is called the Mistress of the Hatti lands, Queen of
heaven and earth and of all countries. “The mother goddesses were responsible for the
creation of humanity and for birth in general, while the goddesses of fate determined human
destiny.” Anatolia section of Religions of the Ancient World, pg. 404. The Hittites later change
her to a male and the deity name is then Istanu, the male sun god. "
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16 March 2018 14:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Hattian spoke Hattic, a non-Indo-European language of uncertain affiliation. Hattic is now believed by some scholars to be related to the Northwest Caucasian language group
"Land of the Hatti" is the oldest known name for central Anatolia, albeit as an exonym in extraneous sources, such as the Assyrian hatti matu, found on Mesopotamian cuneiform tablets from the period of Sargon the Great of Akkad c. 2350–2150 BC; on those tablets Assyrian-Akkadian traders implored King Sargon for help. This appellation continued to exist for about 1,500 years until 630 BC, as stated in Assyrian chronicles. According to later Hittite documents, Sargon the Great had fought with the Luwian king Nurdaggal of Burushanda, while Sargon's successor Naram-Sin of Akkad had battled Pamba, king of Hatti and 16 other confederates.
The use of the word "Proto-Hittite" to refer to Hattians is inaccurate. Hittite (natively known as Nešili, "[in the language] of Neša") is an Indo-European language, linguistically distinct from the Hattians. The Hittites continued to use the term Land of Hatti for their new kingdom. The Hattians eventually merged with people who spoke Indo-European languages like Hittite, Luwian, and Palaic.
Approximate extent of Hittite rule, c. 1350–1300 BC, with Arzawa rule and Lukkans to the west, and Mitanni rule to the southeast.
The Hattians were organised in city-states and small kingdoms or principalities. These cities were well organized and ruled as theocratic principalities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hattians
"Land of the Hatti" is the oldest known name for central Anatolia, albeit as an exonym in extraneous sources, such as the Assyrian hatti matu, found on Mesopotamian cuneiform tablets from the period of Sargon the Great of Akkad c. 2350–2150 BC; on those tablets Assyrian-Akkadian traders implored King Sargon for help. This appellation continued to exist for about 1,500 years until 630 BC, as stated in Assyrian chronicles. According to later Hittite documents, Sargon the Great had fought with the Luwian king Nurdaggal of Burushanda, while Sargon's successor Naram-Sin of Akkad had battled Pamba, king of Hatti and 16 other confederates.
The use of the word "Proto-Hittite" to refer to Hattians is inaccurate. Hittite (natively known as Nešili, "[in the language] of Neša") is an Indo-European language, linguistically distinct from the Hattians. The Hittites continued to use the term Land of Hatti for their new kingdom. The Hattians eventually merged with people who spoke Indo-European languages like Hittite, Luwian, and Palaic.
Approximate extent of Hittite rule, c. 1350–1300 BC, with Arzawa rule and Lukkans to the west, and Mitanni rule to the southeast.
The Hattians were organised in city-states and small kingdoms or principalities. These cities were well organized and ruled as theocratic principalities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hattians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hattians
16 March 2018 14:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The hinge of history hangs on a heartbeat."
16 March 2018 14:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Cardea: she was the guardian of the heart and the vital parts of the human body.
Stefan Weinstock conjectured that these three doorway deities had a place in cosmology as the Ianitores terrestres, "doorkeepers of the earth," guarding the passage to the earthly sphere. In the schema presented by Martianus Capella, the Ianitores terrestres are placed in region 16 among deities of the lowest ranks, while Janus, the divine doorkeeper par excellence,[9] is placed in region 1.
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Ovid begins by noting that the first day of the month is dedicated to Carna. He then identifies her as the goddess of the hinge, who is elsewhere known as Cardea, a name Ovid does not use: "By means of her divine presence (numen) she opens things that have been closed, and closes things that have been opened." The source of her powers (vires) have become obscured by time (aevum), but he promises that his poem (carmen) will clarify the matter (6.101–104).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardea
ja veel rooma mütoloogiat, kus vahest midagi ridadevahelt tundub, et saab lugeda, kui joooksvalt välja arvata ebasobivusi:
Janus too was seized by desire for the nymph. She responded to his sweet-talk (verbis mollibus) by attempting the same ruse; however, as Ovid points out in a characteristic moment of comedy and cruelty colliding, the two faces of Janus allow him to see what goes on behind, and Cranaë was unable to elude him. She was powerless (nil agis, "you can do nothing," the poet repeats twice); the god "occupies her with his embrace," and after overpowering her to achieve his goal, treats the encounter as contractual: "In exchange for our intercourse (pro concubitu), the right (ius) of the hinge will be yours; take that as payment for the virginity you deposited" (6.119–128).
As a pledge, he gives her the whitethorn, or hawthorn, which has the power to repel injurious influences from the entrances to houses (6.129–130). This is the "hinge" or turning point of the unnamed Cardea's transformation from a maiden nymph of the wild to a goddess who polices the threshold or boundaries (limina) of domesticity.[23] The tale of Cranaë's rape, though stocked by Roman rather than Greek figures, would be not out of place in Ovid's Metamorphoses: the heroine doesn't change into a tree, but her transformation resides in the token of the whitethorn tree
Stefan Weinstock conjectured that these three doorway deities had a place in cosmology as the Ianitores terrestres, "doorkeepers of the earth," guarding the passage to the earthly sphere. In the schema presented by Martianus Capella, the Ianitores terrestres are placed in region 16 among deities of the lowest ranks, while Janus, the divine doorkeeper par excellence,[9] is placed in region 1.
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Ovid begins by noting that the first day of the month is dedicated to Carna. He then identifies her as the goddess of the hinge, who is elsewhere known as Cardea, a name Ovid does not use: "By means of her divine presence (numen) she opens things that have been closed, and closes things that have been opened." The source of her powers (vires) have become obscured by time (aevum), but he promises that his poem (carmen) will clarify the matter (6.101–104).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardea
ja veel rooma mütoloogiat, kus vahest midagi ridadevahelt tundub, et saab lugeda, kui joooksvalt välja arvata ebasobivusi:
Janus too was seized by desire for the nymph. She responded to his sweet-talk (verbis mollibus) by attempting the same ruse; however, as Ovid points out in a characteristic moment of comedy and cruelty colliding, the two faces of Janus allow him to see what goes on behind, and Cranaë was unable to elude him. She was powerless (nil agis, "you can do nothing," the poet repeats twice); the god "occupies her with his embrace," and after overpowering her to achieve his goal, treats the encounter as contractual: "In exchange for our intercourse (pro concubitu), the right (ius) of the hinge will be yours; take that as payment for the virginity you deposited" (6.119–128).
As a pledge, he gives her the whitethorn, or hawthorn, which has the power to repel injurious influences from the entrances to houses (6.129–130). This is the "hinge" or turning point of the unnamed Cardea's transformation from a maiden nymph of the wild to a goddess who polices the threshold or boundaries (limina) of domesticity.[23] The tale of Cranaë's rape, though stocked by Roman rather than Greek figures, would be not out of place in Ovid's Metamorphoses: the heroine doesn't change into a tree, but her transformation resides in the token of the whitethorn tree
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardea
16 March 2018 14:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hinge'dest
"first traces of the hinge date back to 1600 B.C.
hinge god
Discoveries in Hattusa, an ancient eastern capital, showed early
forms of hinges being used to make massive objects mobile.
// // Ega nüüd meie kultuuri targad iidesed ja nende kultuur omavahel võõrad polnud..// /
Hattusa was surrounded by stone walls with two giant wooden
doors swinging open on pivots set inside large stone sockets.
Sadly, at this date hinges were not available to the average home
owners. They were known only to be on public or sacred buildings (sound familiar?). In the Old Testament hinges are mentioned when describing King Solomon’s elaborate temple, which included gold-plated sockets for solid gold doors.
The Egyptians are also included in the history of the hinge. Hinges have been found among Egyptian ruins dating back to about 760-650 B.C. Babylonians and Assyrians, in late B.C. and early A.D., were also recognized as hinge users. Moving slightly forward in time, the hinge begins to develop.
old hinge
roman hinge
The Romans, being at the forefront in technology, developed
an improved hinge system. Not only using the hinge for gre-
at community structures, but also for ordinary household items
such as cabinets, doors, drawers etc. They had hinges placed
on certain armour pieces for greater mobility. The Romans
even had a "goddess" of the door hinge known as Cardea.
The next significant advancement in the hinge saga came from the English colonies in the 16th and 17th century. All types of reinforced metals were used to create a stronger and more powerful hinge. Different styles began to develop to make everyday appliances easier to operate. Years later, the American colonists took the idea of the hinge with them. Jamestown settlers imported hinges from English colonies for many of years. Blacksmithing became a very popular job due to the domestic need for hardware for the American colonies.
When colonists eventually moved west, the hinge followed. In the 1850’s Charles Hager founded the present day Hager Hardware company which developed wagon wheel rims and hinges for the wagon doors. By this time, colonists had what is now considered to be a modern day hinge. Since then many innovations of the hinge have developed: the T-hinge in 1843, the ball bearing hinge in 1899, and in 1900 the most common hinge used today was developed, the butt hinge. Today, there are a dizzying number of types and variations of hinges. We hope this site will help you sort them out.
The following is a short list: butt hinge, soss hing, invisible hinge, gate hinge, strap hinge, cabinet hinges that are overlay hinges, inset hinges or euro hinges or decorative hinges, european hinges: blum, amerock, liberty styles for inset face-frame doors and overlay face frame doors or overlay doors and inset doors for frameless cabinets, soft close hinges, 35 mm euro style hinge, clip on style, compact hinges, grass hignes, corner hinges, pie-cut hinges, glass door hinges, pin hinges, marathon hinges, light duty hinges, heavy duty hinges, stainless steel hinges, barred hinge, no-bore concealed hinge, 270 degree hinge, wrap-around higne, 3/8 inch offset, inset hinge, drop leaf hinge, flap hinge, drop flap hinge, plastic hinge, pivot door hinge, kitchen door pivot hinge, offset hung pivot, center hung pivot hinge, interior door pivot hinge, cafe door pivots, rack and pinion pivot hinge, toy box lid support, chest hinge, box hinge, beach seat hinge, friction support, lid support, cedar chest lid support hinge, quadrant hinge, humidor hinge, house door hinge, 3" hinge, architectural hinges, residential hinges, ball bearing hinges, radius corner hinge, combination corner hinge, cabinet door hinges, semi concealed hinge, surface mount cabinet hinge, reverse bevel, variable overlay, self closing, free swinging, H hinges, HL hinges, flush, offset, ice box hinge, ant deco hinge, antique hinge, butterfly hinge, ornamental hinge, colonial style, furniture hinges, table hinge, shelf hinge, butler tray hinge, desk hinge, swing machine hinge, folding screen hinge, lift seat hinge, mirror hinge, hoosier hinge, hoosier cabinet hinge, interior hinge, shutter hinge, window hinge, exterior hinge, inside hinge, outside hinge, miniature hinge, craft hinges, small box butt hinge, spring hinge, piano hinge, builders hinge screen door, tray hinges, entertainment center, ball tip, demountable hinge, finial tip hinges, lift off hinge, glass door hinge, tee hinge, small butt hinge, garage door hinge, weld-on hinge
http://hingedummy.info/hingehistorypage.htm
"first traces of the hinge date back to 1600 B.C.
hinge god
Discoveries in Hattusa, an ancient eastern capital, showed early
forms of hinges being used to make massive objects mobile.
// // Ega nüüd meie kultuuri targad iidesed ja nende kultuur omavahel võõrad polnud..// /
Hattusa was surrounded by stone walls with two giant wooden
doors swinging open on pivots set inside large stone sockets.
Sadly, at this date hinges were not available to the average home
owners. They were known only to be on public or sacred buildings (sound familiar?). In the Old Testament hinges are mentioned when describing King Solomon’s elaborate temple, which included gold-plated sockets for solid gold doors.
The Egyptians are also included in the history of the hinge. Hinges have been found among Egyptian ruins dating back to about 760-650 B.C. Babylonians and Assyrians, in late B.C. and early A.D., were also recognized as hinge users. Moving slightly forward in time, the hinge begins to develop.
old hinge
roman hinge
The Romans, being at the forefront in technology, developed
an improved hinge system. Not only using the hinge for gre-
at community structures, but also for ordinary household items
such as cabinets, doors, drawers etc. They had hinges placed
on certain armour pieces for greater mobility. The Romans
even had a "goddess" of the door hinge known as Cardea.
The next significant advancement in the hinge saga came from the English colonies in the 16th and 17th century. All types of reinforced metals were used to create a stronger and more powerful hinge. Different styles began to develop to make everyday appliances easier to operate. Years later, the American colonists took the idea of the hinge with them. Jamestown settlers imported hinges from English colonies for many of years. Blacksmithing became a very popular job due to the domestic need for hardware for the American colonies.
When colonists eventually moved west, the hinge followed. In the 1850’s Charles Hager founded the present day Hager Hardware company which developed wagon wheel rims and hinges for the wagon doors. By this time, colonists had what is now considered to be a modern day hinge. Since then many innovations of the hinge have developed: the T-hinge in 1843, the ball bearing hinge in 1899, and in 1900 the most common hinge used today was developed, the butt hinge. Today, there are a dizzying number of types and variations of hinges. We hope this site will help you sort them out.
The following is a short list: butt hinge, soss hing, invisible hinge, gate hinge, strap hinge, cabinet hinges that are overlay hinges, inset hinges or euro hinges or decorative hinges, european hinges: blum, amerock, liberty styles for inset face-frame doors and overlay face frame doors or overlay doors and inset doors for frameless cabinets, soft close hinges, 35 mm euro style hinge, clip on style, compact hinges, grass hignes, corner hinges, pie-cut hinges, glass door hinges, pin hinges, marathon hinges, light duty hinges, heavy duty hinges, stainless steel hinges, barred hinge, no-bore concealed hinge, 270 degree hinge, wrap-around higne, 3/8 inch offset, inset hinge, drop leaf hinge, flap hinge, drop flap hinge, plastic hinge, pivot door hinge, kitchen door pivot hinge, offset hung pivot, center hung pivot hinge, interior door pivot hinge, cafe door pivots, rack and pinion pivot hinge, toy box lid support, chest hinge, box hinge, beach seat hinge, friction support, lid support, cedar chest lid support hinge, quadrant hinge, humidor hinge, house door hinge, 3" hinge, architectural hinges, residential hinges, ball bearing hinges, radius corner hinge, combination corner hinge, cabinet door hinges, semi concealed hinge, surface mount cabinet hinge, reverse bevel, variable overlay, self closing, free swinging, H hinges, HL hinges, flush, offset, ice box hinge, ant deco hinge, antique hinge, butterfly hinge, ornamental hinge, colonial style, furniture hinges, table hinge, shelf hinge, butler tray hinge, desk hinge, swing machine hinge, folding screen hinge, lift seat hinge, mirror hinge, hoosier hinge, hoosier cabinet hinge, interior hinge, shutter hinge, window hinge, exterior hinge, inside hinge, outside hinge, miniature hinge, craft hinges, small box butt hinge, spring hinge, piano hinge, builders hinge screen door, tray hinges, entertainment center, ball tip, demountable hinge, finial tip hinges, lift off hinge, glass door hinge, tee hinge, small butt hinge, garage door hinge, weld-on hinge
http://hingedummy.info/hingehistorypage.htm
http://hingedummy.info/hingehistorypage.htm
16 March 2018 14:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mäletada seega tuleb, et ka mitte Eestikeeles pole "Hinged" ustel, vaid ka maailma suurimas keeles,
lihtsalt
neil kellel hing niidiotsas ripub, ei saa ju kohe väga vaimseid omadusi panna nii tavapärasesse esemesse, seega leiutatakse paraleelis, keelemeistrite ajas... asju mis hiljem .. kaks poolt kokku saades... tekib hing.
Ka mees, on ilma teise pooleta hingetu,
hing sümboliseerib ka vaimse hinge kõige lihtsamat ja füüsilisemat tegelikku tähendust ja siin pole midagi upsakat mõelda, arusaamaks, et me keele ammused, selle meelega nende keelde panid, et kunagi sellest arusaadaks
lihtsalt
neil kellel hing niidiotsas ripub, ei saa ju kohe väga vaimseid omadusi panna nii tavapärasesse esemesse, seega leiutatakse paraleelis, keelemeistrite ajas... asju mis hiljem .. kaks poolt kokku saades... tekib hing.
Ka mees, on ilma teise pooleta hingetu,
hing sümboliseerib ka vaimse hinge kõige lihtsamat ja füüsilisemat tegelikku tähendust ja siin pole midagi upsakat mõelda, arusaamaks, et me keele ammused, selle meelega nende keelde panid, et kunagi sellest arusaadaks
16 March 2018 13:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vahest upsakalt arvatakse, et Lääne-Euroopa keeltest me saanud oma sõnad enamus ainiti... kuid samamoodi võime ka ikka selle kogu asja ümber arvata ja mõelda, kes need asjad nende keelde istutasid, sedasi, et teatud sõnad ja sümbolid jääksid siia patumaailma mele sügavale sisse.
Mis varem või hiljem, ikka esile tulema peaksid,
Nagu aknad ja elektripostid mis partamatult paljudes kohtades riste meenutasid enamuses,
Või sõnad mis keelde jäävad ja mida keelest välja saada, et seda hingetuks muuta, enam nii kergesti eip saada.
Eks ma selles osas kunagi hiljem oska täpsemalt mõela ja öelda mis selle kõigega mõtlen, praegu pole näiteid tühjas peast vaimus ligi toodud, ju pole siis vaja, veel
--
Kuid yeah, kui arvatakse, et meie teistelt saanud oleme rutakalt, siis peaks pigem müstiliselt mõistma, mis moodi me need asjad sedasi panime, et need teistel oleksid, ammused ajad tagasi...
isegi see, et eesti keele märgis on ET, ja EST
on vajaliku tähise ja tähendusega globaalses inglikeeles,
Mis aitavad meil ennast teistele piisavalt suurest ija vajalikult mõtestada.
Enamus need sellised arusaamad on reaalselt veel avastamata avalikustamise mõttes, sest väga tagasi- ja alalhoidlikuna need me kõige targemad, ainult enda isiklikuks muhedaks avastuseks peavad neid suur -tähenduste intellektuaalseid viirastusi, kuid täiskasvanuliku tagasihoidlikuse tõttu pole enamus keele ja meele, kultuuri ja loodus ning vaimutargad asunud paljastama ja kirjastama meie maailma reaalset mõtestatust sellises võtmes, et kus me oleksime kas põhi või üks põhilistest kes kogu kultuuriarengud ja liigid siin maal luua aidanud, kokkuleptitult ja vajalikuses, jäädes väikseks kuid elama, et kogu suurvõimsust pärast tagasihoidlikusse ja väikste hoolimisse kasvatada, pannes arusaama, kui mida iganes märkamatuga oleks saanud juhtuda, kuid kes kannatas kõik ja jäi altruistlikkuks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinge
Hingepeegel
Mis varem või hiljem, ikka esile tulema peaksid,
Nagu aknad ja elektripostid mis partamatult paljudes kohtades riste meenutasid enamuses,
Või sõnad mis keelde jäävad ja mida keelest välja saada, et seda hingetuks muuta, enam nii kergesti eip saada.
Eks ma selles osas kunagi hiljem oska täpsemalt mõela ja öelda mis selle kõigega mõtlen, praegu pole näiteid tühjas peast vaimus ligi toodud, ju pole siis vaja, veel
--
Kuid yeah, kui arvatakse, et meie teistelt saanud oleme rutakalt, siis peaks pigem müstiliselt mõistma, mis moodi me need asjad sedasi panime, et need teistel oleksid, ammused ajad tagasi...
isegi see, et eesti keele märgis on ET, ja EST
on vajaliku tähise ja tähendusega globaalses inglikeeles,
Mis aitavad meil ennast teistele piisavalt suurest ija vajalikult mõtestada.
Enamus need sellised arusaamad on reaalselt veel avastamata avalikustamise mõttes, sest väga tagasi- ja alalhoidlikuna need me kõige targemad, ainult enda isiklikuks muhedaks avastuseks peavad neid suur -tähenduste intellektuaalseid viirastusi, kuid täiskasvanuliku tagasihoidlikuse tõttu pole enamus keele ja meele, kultuuri ja loodus ning vaimutargad asunud paljastama ja kirjastama meie maailma reaalset mõtestatust sellises võtmes, et kus me oleksime kas põhi või üks põhilistest kes kogu kultuuriarengud ja liigid siin maal luua aidanud, kokkuleptitult ja vajalikuses, jäädes väikseks kuid elama, et kogu suurvõimsust pärast tagasihoidlikusse ja väikste hoolimisse kasvatada, pannes arusaama, kui mida iganes märkamatuga oleks saanud juhtuda, kuid kes kannatas kõik ja jäi altruistlikkuks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinge
Hingepeegel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinge
16 March 2018 13:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siia teemasse sattusin aga hoopis siit:
hing1 : hinge : hinge 'õhu kopsudesse tõmbamine ja sealt eemaldamine; kopsudest eemaldatav õhk; elu; eluvaim; elusolend, hrl inimene'
◊ hõng
● liivi jeng 'hing, vaim; hingamine, hingus'
vadja entši 'hingamine, hingus; hingeõhk; hing, (elu)vaim; hing (olend); (kuri v püha) vaim'
soome henki 'hingamine, hingus; hingeõhk; elu; vaim; inimene, hing'
isuri hengi 'hing; inimene, hing; süda'
Aunuse karjala hengi 'hingamine; hing, süda; elu; inimene, hing'
lüüdi heng(i) 'hing; süda'
vepsa heng 'hing, vaim; süda; hing (olend)'
? udmurdi ǯog 'kuumus; leil'
? handi šăŋk 'kuum; kuumus'
? mansi sāŋk 'leitsak, kuumus'
Läänemeresoome või koguni soome-ugri tüvi. hõng on lõunaeestipärane tüvevariant.
hing2 : hinge : hinge 'ukse, akna vms kinnitusosa, mis võimaldab pöördliikumist'
← alamsaksa henge 'hing, nagi, riputamisvahend'
http://www.eki.ee/dict/ety/index.cgi?Q=hing
https://www.etymonline.com/word/hinge
hinge (n.)
c. 1300, "the axis of the earth;" late 14c. as "movable joint of a gate or door," not found in Old English, cognate with Middle Dutch henghe "hook, handle," Middle Low German henge "hinge," from Proto-Germanic *hanhan (transitive), *hangen (intransitive), from PIE *konk- "to hang" (see hang (v.)). The notion is the thing from which a door hangs. Figurative sense of "that on which events, etc., turn" is from c.1600. Stamp-collecting sense is from 1883.
hinge (v.)
c. 1600, "to bend," from hinge (n.). Meaning "turn on, depend" (figuratively) is from 1719. Related: Hinged; hinging.
hing1 : hinge : hinge 'õhu kopsudesse tõmbamine ja sealt eemaldamine; kopsudest eemaldatav õhk; elu; eluvaim; elusolend, hrl inimene'
◊ hõng
● liivi jeng 'hing, vaim; hingamine, hingus'
vadja entši 'hingamine, hingus; hingeõhk; hing, (elu)vaim; hing (olend); (kuri v püha) vaim'
soome henki 'hingamine, hingus; hingeõhk; elu; vaim; inimene, hing'
isuri hengi 'hing; inimene, hing; süda'
Aunuse karjala hengi 'hingamine; hing, süda; elu; inimene, hing'
lüüdi heng(i) 'hing; süda'
vepsa heng 'hing, vaim; süda; hing (olend)'
? udmurdi ǯog 'kuumus; leil'
? handi šăŋk 'kuum; kuumus'
? mansi sāŋk 'leitsak, kuumus'
Läänemeresoome või koguni soome-ugri tüvi. hõng on lõunaeestipärane tüvevariant.
hing2 : hinge : hinge 'ukse, akna vms kinnitusosa, mis võimaldab pöördliikumist'
← alamsaksa henge 'hing, nagi, riputamisvahend'
http://www.eki.ee/dict/ety/index.cgi?Q=hing
https://www.etymonline.com/word/hinge
hinge (n.)
c. 1300, "the axis of the earth;" late 14c. as "movable joint of a gate or door," not found in Old English, cognate with Middle Dutch henghe "hook, handle," Middle Low German henge "hinge," from Proto-Germanic *hanhan (transitive), *hangen (intransitive), from PIE *konk- "to hang" (see hang (v.)). The notion is the thing from which a door hangs. Figurative sense of "that on which events, etc., turn" is from c.1600. Stamp-collecting sense is from 1883.
hinge (v.)
c. 1600, "to bend," from hinge (n.). Meaning "turn on, depend" (figuratively) is from 1719. Related: Hinged; hinging.
http://www.eki.ee/dict/ety/index.cgi?Q=hing
16 March 2018 13:13
Margus Meigo replied to Markus Lundver's comment.
Kiidan Heaks : )
16 March 2018 12:37
Margus Meigo replied to Kardo Kuusekänd's comment.
Nägin nüüd alles kommentaari,
Eluke päris äärepeal, kuid jääb kenasti elama praegu veel
Eluke päris äärepeal, kuid jääb kenasti elama praegu veel
16 March 2018 12:37
Margus Meigo replied to Lele Reinsoo's comment.
Minu laivis ?: )
16 March 2018 12:36
Margus Meigo replied to Ain Alvela's comment.
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Kittumise aeg korra veel:
Tanel selline mees, kes ei saanud isegi öelda mulle,
et kas ta on LOODUSE poolt või on ta LINNAELU poolt,
See, et pole "sooja ega külma" remmelgast, näitab ise millised on arusaamad.
Arvab, et looduskaitsjad on ekstremistid, kasutades sõna "puukallistaja" mõnitavas versioonis :
Miks me selliseid taluma peame, kes ilmselgelt, koos oma võlts profiilidega on siia tulnud meelsust õõnestama, mis niigi habras.
Sellel kas keegi elab ise lasnamäel ei tähenda, et tal pole õigus TUNDA ja ARUSAADA mis on kurjus, mis on koduhävitus ja kes on hävitajad, miks ja kuidas.
Ma enamuse elust, perest kelle lähim asfalt tee oli 14 kilomeetrit, metsaomanikud, maa omanikud, metsamehed, ja tammesi olen istutanud ka mitmes teises riigis.
Praegune tööperiood on mul elus teiesuguste agentidele vastuainet leida, sest võid petta aegajalat paljusi, kuid ei iial kõiki.
Oled Sa üldse elus pud kallistanud ?
Oled Sa puu maailmade sees käinud, näinud kuidas puud hingavad?
Ahjaa... sa ei suutnud valida isegi, et kas oled linnamajanduse poolt või looduse poolt... mis siin küsida15 March 2018 21:42
Margus Meigo replied to Ain Alvela's comment.
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Tanel Mälton Tanel kirjutasin Sulle otse, kui vaja ilkuda on tule tee seda isiklikult.
Ja ütle ausalt välja, kas olid remmelga vastu või poolt ja miks, mis peidad enda kavatsusi ja tõekspidamisi mingi retoorika ja sõnaosavuse taha, vasta.
Kas olid selle ärimehe kuudi poolt , või inimeste poolt,
Looduse poolt või looduse vastu.
Väga lihtne, ja siis peale seda, mõtle mida Sa siin grupis teed.
Krooniline metsaainete puudus ongi siia ilma tootnud igasuguseid hübriide kes ei taju loodusliku ja tulnukolendite mehaanlise tööstuse piire. Veelvähem saavad aru olulisustest mis on vaja milleks, et kestma jääks see kes oleme, kauemaks kui see mis olnud oleme. Oleme alati olnud ja alati jääme ka olema, kuid mis hinna ja valuga, seda suhteliselt kerge vaevaga saab praegune deemonlik-demokraatia ühiskond kergesti valida, kergemini kui ükski teine ajastu nii kriitilistel aegadel seda teha saanud on.
//kuid need agendid jah, sellised, kellele nende suuvoodri eest ja rahva psüholoogia mõjutamise eest makstakse,
//mis loogika, blokeerid sõnumid otsesuhtluses kus endiselt ühtegi vastust ei julgenud anda, klaviatuurigängster, ning siis tuled siia avalikult ilkuma ja teemat trollima?
Mu eraasju siia sisse tooma, milleks?
Retooriline küsimus, teame miks, te nii toimetate.15 March 2018 20:51
Margus Meigo replied to Ain Alvela's comment.
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Toomas, mis naerad, tõsilugu ( :) )
Tanel: Ilmselgelt neid aineid, mis Sinusuguste peale oleks puhas raiskamine, Mu emal oli ütlus "Peldiku taha ja ...." selliste osas.
Kuid Martin Luige ettepanek on täitsa adekvaatne, mul endal täpselt sama mõte olnud, et mõlemad peavad selgitama mis moodi nad arusaavad teisest ehk miks nad vastanduvad.
Nüüd aga "debattimine" on koolis mingiks mänguks tehtud koolis kus looosiga valitakse, mitte ei tohi oma eelarvamusepõhjal tugevalt debattida, kui arusain õigesti.
See sama effekt kui veneajal võlts hääletamist harjutati, et inimesed saaksid aru, meelestatud inimesed ,et hääletamisel pole mõtet ja veelgivähem mõtet proovida vastanduda massile.
See oli treeningu mõte kus külanõukogudes kokku kutsuti ja küsiti, kellel mis ettepanekud ja vastuväited. Siis need mis vastased, olid ka omakorda paika installeeeritud, et eriti naiivsetele ja protokollile jääks mulje, nagu päris arutelu toimus
Selles osas mul hea platform (Arutlusekeskus) ja idee juba pikka aega unistustes olnud (lisaks väga paljule muule),
osati juba alustasin ka, kuid ilma Naiseta ma miskit suurt ette ei julge võtta (või suure hulga sõpradeta), kuna ma väga väga ülemäära vaimselt seotud igasuguste asjadega mille seletused hästi pikad ja eriti mitte selgemeelsed saaksid olema , // esoteerika keeles ma lihtsalt maaalgjõude ja arusaame kanaldan ja ise vahendajana proovin ka vahest arukas olla ja kududa nendest strateegiaid ja plaane, inimesena.15 March 2018 20:40
Margus Meigo replied to Ain Alvela's comment.
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Martin: Muidugi see Rooma ise on üks ike mis kogu planeedil siiani kaelas ja kes meie enamuse suurim vaenalne siiani, isegi sümboleid pole nad vahetanud palju, nii enesekindlad, kuid paljud reeglid olid tarvilikud mis põhinesid enne nende aega, mis nad teistelt rahvastelt võtnud ja relvaks, tugevaks riigimasinavärgiks kokku punisid. Rooma mõõk isegi polnud ju roomlastelt, ega nende veesüsteemid. jne.
Arne: Lisan veel, et auru / mõtte lõpuni saaks:
Ebaadekvaatsuse eest makstakse "libu-saatejuhtidele" (libu st hingemüüvad, vastavalt enda mugavus olukorrale, et endal tore oleks)
tuleb juba ette arusaada, mis VAIMUS keegi on, ja siis kes neile maksab/tasub reaalselt JA vaimselt, et nad MÄNGIKSID erapooletut. Egas kõik tasu rahas käi. vahest piisab kellegi enesetähtsuse onamisest, et ta enesetähtsuse ja üleolevuse rahuldatud saaks ja siis mõne ärimehega kuskil hea martiinit limpsida, pilvelõhkuja katuselt koos muude hüvedega mis rahvahinge (ja metsa, maa) mahamüümisega vallutavatelt jõududelt kaasneb koos legaalse, ideoloogilise ja füüsilise kaitsega.
Enamus ajakirjandus on treenitud alluma valele ja seega kui tegu pole uuriva ajakirjandusega siis enamasti on tegu kuritöölistega, sama kehtib ka nende kehkenpükside ja veidra meelsustega saatejuhtide osas, kes kerglaselt räägivad asjadest kust ei sobi ja ei julge tugevalt ise poolt võtta, kus tarvis. Öeldes, et see on nende "eetika" olla erapooletu. See on maagia, tegelikult.
Kuid see oleks umbes nagu keegi oleks kerglaselt naljatades erapooletu ennast süüdi-tunnistanud ja irvitava pedufiili-pederastja kohtuistungil.
(Inimesed tunnistavad ennast süüdi, sõnadega, ka siis kui näitavad mille eest seisavad või kus nad pooli ei julge võtta, ehk kus ei saada aru mis on millisel kaalukausil. )
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Selle EmaRemmelga kallal ilkuja osas veel:
Lisaks adekvaatne list neist teha internetti,
Reostajatest ja looduse kallal ilkujatest,
Sest neil ja nende peredel-seltskondadel on vaja silma peal hoida, punkte kokku viia kust nad oma leiba saavad, nii vaimset kui muud.
Niih, nüüd sai vast öeldud mis tarvis.
kahju, et mul keeleoskust pole, et ennast ilmekalt ja selgemeelselt väljendada.15 March 2018 20:26
Margus Meigo replied to Ain Alvela's comment.
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kuid ikka vahest on vaja jalaga vastu maad ka põrutada, et nii väiksed ja suured koerad oma koju läheksid, kes võõrale maale klähvima tulnud15 March 2018 20:07
Margus Meigo commented on Liis Ellert's photo.
Mida roheline piip taustal sümboliseerib?
15 March 2018 19:51
Margus Meigo commented on Liis Ellert's photo.
Kõlab hästi,
Kuigi, Uudne pole päris nii hea kui Vanamoodne,
sest kõik hea on juba kunagi kellegil unistatud ja kuskil maailmas olnud,
Terve maailma osa on ka hea aga ainulaadsuse osa kuigi meeldiv enesekindluselt, siis teisipidi mõeldes, peaks just see kõigetavalisem ja normaalsem, kõige levinum see kõige normaalsem olema,
ehk siis ega tervemõistlikus, looduse armastus ja austuspõhine elus elamine, pole ju miskit erakordset vaid elementaarne miinimum, et üldse ärganud inimeseks kandideerida selle uinunud ja paaniliselt kisklevate hübriidolendite maailmas.
Kuigi, Uudne pole päris nii hea kui Vanamoodne,
sest kõik hea on juba kunagi kellegil unistatud ja kuskil maailmas olnud,
Terve maailma osa on ka hea aga ainulaadsuse osa kuigi meeldiv enesekindluselt, siis teisipidi mõeldes, peaks just see kõigetavalisem ja normaalsem, kõige levinum see kõige normaalsem olema,
ehk siis ega tervemõistlikus, looduse armastus ja austuspõhine elus elamine, pole ju miskit erakordset vaid elementaarne miinimum, et üldse ärganud inimeseks kandideerida selle uinunud ja paaniliselt kisklevate hübriidolendite maailmas.
15 March 2018 19:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Nii kas see JUmalapoolse Loodusliku Naiseusku vastas küsimusele ?
14 March 2018 20:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
For those that follow Druidism and believe in Druid horoscopes, the following is a list of trees, along with a few general characteristics that are determined according to the day you were born:
• Apple Tree (Dec 22-Jan 1 / Jun 25-Jul 4) - Tree of love, intelligence, and harmonization.
Someone with this tree sign is quite sensitive and even sentimental. Love and knowledge rule their very being and when they are able to embrace both, they feel sheer bliss and truly live life.
• Fir (Jan 2-11 / Jul 5-14) - Tree of independence, privacy, and contemplation.
When given this tree sign, one is eager, practical, and dedicated to achieving their dreams, yet reasonable and logical when necessary. They give of themselves completely, after much thought.
• Elm (Jan 12-24 / Jul 15-25) - Tree of beauty, god speed, and organization.
A tree sign such as this one, loves all that is bold, beautiful, and harmonious. They also tend to be open, direct, and quite outspoken with their emotions and opinions. They live with passion.
• Cypress (Jan 25-Feb 3 / Jul 26-Aug 4) - Tree of serenity, new life, and adaptation.
Someone with this tree sign prefers to avoid drama, opting for a peaceful, dreamlike state of being as opposed to any form of disagreement or opposition. Life for them is peaceful and magical.
• Poplar (Feb 4-8 / Aug 5-13) - Tree of growth, strength, and visualization.
When given this tree sign, one starts off blissful and carefree, only to encounter a few difficult challenges that often become hot dilemmas. But with a good outlook, they naturally persevere.
• Hackberry (Feb 9-18 / Aug 14-23) - Tree of nobility, pride, and dedication.
A tree sign such as this one will not settle for less than what they obtain to achieve in their lifetime. Their strict dedication and vision is what inevitably makes them feel proud and great.
• Pine (Feb 19-29 / Aug 24-Sep 2) - Tree of health, perseverance, and moderation.
Someone with this tree sign is steady and poised, while moving forward towards progress and success. They often develop a good sense of what is needed physically, emotionally, and spiritually.
• Willow (Mar 1-10 / Sep 3-12) - Tree of fairness, non-judgment, and toleration.
When given this tree sign, one is not so quick to judge a book by its cover. Instead, they tend to allow the story to unfold naturally so they may clearly learn the meaning of what is written.
• Lime (Mar 11-20 / Sep 13-22) - Tree of charm, ease, and infatuation.
A tree sign such as this one might have a tendency to charm or be charmed. They go along with situations peacefully and try to make the most of what can often be somewhat difficult for others.
• Hazel (Mar 22-31 / Sep 24-Oct 3) - Tree of originality, intellect, and adaptation.
Someone with this tree sign firmly believes in individual growth, knowledge, and permeation. They strive to develop their own sense of style and wit, making them solid pioneers in their field.
• Rowan (Apr 1-10 / Oct 4-13) - Tree of ambition, honesty, and communication.
When given this tree sign, one always believes in being true of character and opinion. They never sacrifice their integrity for hidden motives and always obtain goals by way of pure ingenuity.
• Maple (Apr 11-20 / Oct 14-23) - Tree of personality, energy, and imagination.
A tree sign such as this one beholds sheer charisma to go further than most, especially when such journeys encompass creative thought. They never cease to amaze and go beyond. They never stop.
• Walnut (Apr 21-30 / Oct 24-Nov 2) - Tree of fortune, vigor, and determination.
Someone with this tree sign is destined for success and ultimate riches, whether they are in the form of material or supernatural. Their energy is based upon their will and their will is done.
• Jasmine (May 1-14 / Nov 3-11) - Tree of poise, diplomacy, and socialization.
When given this tree sign, one can almost always show an interest in politics or some form of public relations and communications or social interests. They enjoy getting their thoughts across.
• Chestnut (May 15-24 / Nov 12-21) - Tree of justice, ethics, and observation.
A tree sign such as this one goes, but grows no further until they have left a trace of their thought pattern with them. They observe to a certain degree before making sound and fair judgment.
• Ash (May 25-Jun 3 / Nov 22-Dec 1) - Tree of insight, intuition, and aspiration.
Someone with this tree sign is bright enough and willing to take a step further into deeper, darker, less traveled territory, to see a bigger picture, often resulting in a greater masterpiece.
• Ironwood (Jun 4-13 / Dec 2-11) - Tree of discipline, order, and admiration.
When given this tree sign, one can be referred to as having a steady and sturdy enough foundation for further growth and development, both in themselves as well as enabling the same in others.
• Fig (Jun 14-23 / Dec 12-20) - Tree of balance, expression, and diversification.
A tree sign such as this one loves to explore yet always has a sense of their solid roots. They can discover much more than what their world offers while still maintaining their native spirit.
• Oak (Mar 21 Spring Equinox) - Tree of boldness, stability, and individualization.
Someone with this tree sign will more than likely become bolder, brighter, and better than their peers. This can be successfully done as they never lose sight of their own sense of self-worth.
• Birch (Jun 24 - 3 days after the Summer Solstice which is Jun 21) - Tree of creativity, action, and illumination.
When given this tree sign, one always creates the love, life, and laughter that they desire in their universe. They are not afraid to embrace their own power and they do so with pure progress.
• Olive (Sep 23 Autumn Equinox) - Tree of logic, reason, and rationalization.
A tree sign such as this one prefers to know the truth as well as the mystery. In doing so, they make good sense out of what often makes absolutely none whatsoever, to discover greater wisdom.
• Beech (Dec 21 Winter Solstice) - Tree of skill, resourcefulness, and preservation.
Someone with this tree sign is highly gifted in matters of discovering and carefully preserving. They make use of what others often deem useless, to show a greater knowledge and understanding.
Even if you are not a certain tree sign, yet still love a certain tree, you may have those specific qualities. In going beyond your own tree sign, you may therefore thoroughly understand even more about yourself according to that particular tree.
• Apple Tree (Dec 22-Jan 1 / Jun 25-Jul 4) - Tree of love, intelligence, and harmonization.
Someone with this tree sign is quite sensitive and even sentimental. Love and knowledge rule their very being and when they are able to embrace both, they feel sheer bliss and truly live life.
• Fir (Jan 2-11 / Jul 5-14) - Tree of independence, privacy, and contemplation.
When given this tree sign, one is eager, practical, and dedicated to achieving their dreams, yet reasonable and logical when necessary. They give of themselves completely, after much thought.
• Elm (Jan 12-24 / Jul 15-25) - Tree of beauty, god speed, and organization.
A tree sign such as this one, loves all that is bold, beautiful, and harmonious. They also tend to be open, direct, and quite outspoken with their emotions and opinions. They live with passion.
• Cypress (Jan 25-Feb 3 / Jul 26-Aug 4) - Tree of serenity, new life, and adaptation.
Someone with this tree sign prefers to avoid drama, opting for a peaceful, dreamlike state of being as opposed to any form of disagreement or opposition. Life for them is peaceful and magical.
• Poplar (Feb 4-8 / Aug 5-13) - Tree of growth, strength, and visualization.
When given this tree sign, one starts off blissful and carefree, only to encounter a few difficult challenges that often become hot dilemmas. But with a good outlook, they naturally persevere.
• Hackberry (Feb 9-18 / Aug 14-23) - Tree of nobility, pride, and dedication.
A tree sign such as this one will not settle for less than what they obtain to achieve in their lifetime. Their strict dedication and vision is what inevitably makes them feel proud and great.
• Pine (Feb 19-29 / Aug 24-Sep 2) - Tree of health, perseverance, and moderation.
Someone with this tree sign is steady and poised, while moving forward towards progress and success. They often develop a good sense of what is needed physically, emotionally, and spiritually.
• Willow (Mar 1-10 / Sep 3-12) - Tree of fairness, non-judgment, and toleration.
When given this tree sign, one is not so quick to judge a book by its cover. Instead, they tend to allow the story to unfold naturally so they may clearly learn the meaning of what is written.
• Lime (Mar 11-20 / Sep 13-22) - Tree of charm, ease, and infatuation.
A tree sign such as this one might have a tendency to charm or be charmed. They go along with situations peacefully and try to make the most of what can often be somewhat difficult for others.
• Hazel (Mar 22-31 / Sep 24-Oct 3) - Tree of originality, intellect, and adaptation.
Someone with this tree sign firmly believes in individual growth, knowledge, and permeation. They strive to develop their own sense of style and wit, making them solid pioneers in their field.
• Rowan (Apr 1-10 / Oct 4-13) - Tree of ambition, honesty, and communication.
When given this tree sign, one always believes in being true of character and opinion. They never sacrifice their integrity for hidden motives and always obtain goals by way of pure ingenuity.
• Maple (Apr 11-20 / Oct 14-23) - Tree of personality, energy, and imagination.
A tree sign such as this one beholds sheer charisma to go further than most, especially when such journeys encompass creative thought. They never cease to amaze and go beyond. They never stop.
• Walnut (Apr 21-30 / Oct 24-Nov 2) - Tree of fortune, vigor, and determination.
Someone with this tree sign is destined for success and ultimate riches, whether they are in the form of material or supernatural. Their energy is based upon their will and their will is done.
• Jasmine (May 1-14 / Nov 3-11) - Tree of poise, diplomacy, and socialization.
When given this tree sign, one can almost always show an interest in politics or some form of public relations and communications or social interests. They enjoy getting their thoughts across.
• Chestnut (May 15-24 / Nov 12-21) - Tree of justice, ethics, and observation.
A tree sign such as this one goes, but grows no further until they have left a trace of their thought pattern with them. They observe to a certain degree before making sound and fair judgment.
• Ash (May 25-Jun 3 / Nov 22-Dec 1) - Tree of insight, intuition, and aspiration.
Someone with this tree sign is bright enough and willing to take a step further into deeper, darker, less traveled territory, to see a bigger picture, often resulting in a greater masterpiece.
• Ironwood (Jun 4-13 / Dec 2-11) - Tree of discipline, order, and admiration.
When given this tree sign, one can be referred to as having a steady and sturdy enough foundation for further growth and development, both in themselves as well as enabling the same in others.
• Fig (Jun 14-23 / Dec 12-20) - Tree of balance, expression, and diversification.
A tree sign such as this one loves to explore yet always has a sense of their solid roots. They can discover much more than what their world offers while still maintaining their native spirit.
• Oak (Mar 21 Spring Equinox) - Tree of boldness, stability, and individualization.
Someone with this tree sign will more than likely become bolder, brighter, and better than their peers. This can be successfully done as they never lose sight of their own sense of self-worth.
• Birch (Jun 24 - 3 days after the Summer Solstice which is Jun 21) - Tree of creativity, action, and illumination.
When given this tree sign, one always creates the love, life, and laughter that they desire in their universe. They are not afraid to embrace their own power and they do so with pure progress.
• Olive (Sep 23 Autumn Equinox) - Tree of logic, reason, and rationalization.
A tree sign such as this one prefers to know the truth as well as the mystery. In doing so, they make good sense out of what often makes absolutely none whatsoever, to discover greater wisdom.
• Beech (Dec 21 Winter Solstice) - Tree of skill, resourcefulness, and preservation.
Someone with this tree sign is highly gifted in matters of discovering and carefully preserving. They make use of what others often deem useless, to show a greater knowledge and understanding.
Even if you are not a certain tree sign, yet still love a certain tree, you may have those specific qualities. In going beyond your own tree sign, you may therefore thoroughly understand even more about yourself according to that particular tree.
14 March 2018 20:32
Margus Meigo replied to Agne Nelk's comment.
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Sest kuidagi märkamatult neid need asjad lähevad valitsusest läbi.. veidra lihtsusega peale seda, kui nad vermaitse said hambu, emapajuga, et kui lihtne on võtta maha ja keegi reaalselt ei takista.14 March 2018 20:26
Margus Meigo replied to Agne Nelk's comment.
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Ainuke asi mis teha saame, on need inimesed kes selle seadustasid, nimed koguda, ja kui võimalik siis ka saemeestest, küll 1:1 ne kunagi nendega üksipulki kokku saame ja kuulame mis maksti ja mis neile räägiti14 March 2018 20:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
You know, white out tobacco,
rspecting how plant spirit can grow, evolve, help us on what is needed. Plant food, plant envoriement, as them here before us
;)
rspecting how plant spirit can grow, evolve, help us on what is needed. Plant food, plant envoriement, as them here before us
;)
14 March 2018 20:20
Margus Meigo replied to Ylle Lennuk's comment.
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Ei mul vaimud ütlevad, et ku s eda ise teen, ei saa sellest midagi olema, sest mul ei ole Naismateeriat kaasas ... suured vaimsed lood mida seletama siia eipsaa hakata
Ma nii paljudes asjades nina torkinud, et vägaebatõenäone, et mu grupiga miskit infot hakkaks liikuma.
Kuid algus siin siis:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Metsakaitse/
igasuguste asjade harali ajamine omakorda lagundab komuune, siin päris hea komuun, kuid kui koostöös hoida, siis oleks lootust,
et siin märkida naaber grupiks selge kirjaga, et see strateegiliseks
// teen juhised selgemaks varsti, lipan järgmisesse netikohta
// kodutu ju suht...Metsakaitse: Laastajate Kontaktid ja strat. Siseinfo kogumine .:. Emapuu
14 March 2018 19:55
Margus Meigo commented on David Jason Williams's live video.
Will hear You up later, gotta run now, Looking bright man, keep up the postive light @ love from Estonia !
(we struge against corporations and dark magic here who destructs acient woods, to cut of our nature connections.... will tell ya later. Some biits forthat we can do also , : ) )
(we struge against corporations and dark magic here who destructs acient woods, to cut of our nature connections.... will tell ya later. Some biits forthat we can do also , : ) )
14 March 2018 19:53
Margus Meigo commented on David Jason Williams's live video.
Me in old times, in SA: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1022535240379&set=a.1022531160277.2004191.1135161043&type=3&theater
14 March 2018 19:47
Margus Meigo commented on David Jason Williams's live video.
Make sure youth knows proper strains
14 March 2018 19:43
Margus Meigo commented on David Jason Williams's live video.
Looking goood!
14 March 2018 19:41
Margus Meigo replied to Ylle Lennuk's comment.
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Son Maix oot mõtlen suts14 March 2018 19:23
Margus Meigo replied to Ylle Lennuk's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Son Maix Tegid Juba või teen ?
Mul ema Puu ja Ema palju grupi tegin kunagi ,saab seda sama ka kasutada, nime saab muuta, siis seostuks kohe millegagi.
Või teha täitsa uus, teen , tegid ?
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Tühi grupp:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/EmaPaju/
ja
https://www.facebook.com/groups/EmaPuu/
oli plaanis seda asja ajama hakata, kuid mul vaja,et paar kolm inimest torgiks ja hoiaks mind fookuses, sest kanalitega inimesel, mul tueb uusi hoooge peale nii Koeramuredest seotust kuni Tarkvara probleemideni, vahest paar kuud läheb aega, et ringiga tagasi jõuda samasse teemasse ..Metsakaitse: Laastajate Kontaktid ja strat. Siseinfo kogumine .:. Emapuu
14 March 2018 19:20
Margus Meigo replied to Ylle Lennuk's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Son Maix Need alatud ülikonnad ja lipsud kes nii arvavad, tuleb vastutusele võtta, ka nendest list teha,
küll need listid käiku paneme.. palju raskem on hiljem neid kameelione tunda kui uus korras kord ja nad sisse inflatreerivad, osad petteks isegi nõus habeme kasvatama ja maameheks hakkama, nagu luurel ikka kombeks, igas mastaabis ...
seega kõik kes praegu vahele jäänud kodumaa vastaste ja lihtsalt lollustega, tuleks listi panna märgetega...
siis saab kunagi küsida neilt 15 a pärast, ega nad ise pruugi siis enam mäletadagi.. aga vaja on, et need kes riiki hooldama hakkavad, t nemad mäletaks..14 March 2018 19:17
Margus Meigo replied to Eero Barndõk's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Ma natuke liiga palju emotsionaalselt erutatud, kuid jah, teeme mitut salavõlukunsti, praktilist & loodame!14 March 2018 19:13
Margus Meigo replied to Eero Barndõk's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
lisaks proovitakse niipaljude elu inimeste eraelud nii vussi ajada ku isaab, kes strateegiliselt ees on,
et nadei saaks suurema aktivismiga tegeleda, vaimumaailma ABC,
kgb abc ka samas jms korporatiivsete strateegiate oma
nad palkavad ju tipp luure ja mass psüholoogia spetse, milline iganes probleemi tõstatus on,
raha makstakse ja spetsalistid annavad nõu
kui on kaudne oht ja mingid uuringud, testus, et puud aitavad vaimu hoida, siis lahendus on ilmselgelt lihtne... aga kuidas teha nii, et rahvas seda iseteeks, ei märkaks ja vaheleei tuleks... eks selles osas suts abi palgati juurde,
ja nagu näha.. rahulikult teevad, aitavad ja lubavad lärmi lüüa kuid ükski erakond ega suurjõud ei organiseeri ei juge kedagi kohale ajada, kes reaalselt oleks nõus kaitsma ja seisma millegi ees, pigem antakse kellaaaeg millal võib tulla,
Peale seda juba on "ebaseaduslik kogunemine..."
kujutate ette,,,, kellajalised (kellast kellani) kokkulepitud protestid.. nu mis nali see on..
ja siis aktiivseid töölaude, brainstorminguid koos olevate inimestega nagu unustatakse tihti teha.. minnakse iga roju oma koju.. ja luurel märgitud kes kus kohal käis ja kas vaja ta elu kibedaks teha v mitte, kui aktiivne ja terav pliiats keegi oli..
Inimesed meelega nii mudasse ja väikseks surutud, et neil vahest võime suurelt mõelda, vääriliselt arusaada, mis mitu suurt eri projekti, omavahel koostöös on, nende kodu ja hinge osas planeeritud, kui mitme eri grupi poolt...
pigem ette mõelda vaenlased suuremaks ja targemaks, kui kaotada pettumusega, sest jätsme midagi arvestamata,
Me ikkagi Maarjamaaal, Jumala Seljataga, ärgem hülga seda mida planeedil nii vähestel peale meie antud on, meie peale loodab ka kogu maailm, sellele tuleb arusaada,
Me shamaani rahva ainukesi väheseid Läänekultuuri tipus olevaid rahvaid, loodusrahvastes.
Braziliaga tuleb ka koostööd teha jms .. ja mitte lipsudega... kui võimlaik... siis vähemasti habemes lipsuga..
Kuid enne peame näitama, et meil ikka ka arvestatav radikaalne kogukond, kes on JÄÄDAVALT ärkvel ja ei kao ka siis kui meilt kõik karvad võetakse ja ainult paekivi järgi jääb, meelega jääme püsima ja toome arusaaama millise iganes impeeriumile koju kätte, ... kuid parem oleks veel.. kui enne seda "kui halb saab olema"
Suunduksime sinnasuunda "kui hea saaks olla, normaalselt "14 March 2018 19:06
Margus Meigo replied to Eero Barndõk's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Eero Barndõk emapaju puhul rikuti korraga 4 ja seadust,
lisakssellele, et norm oli üle 700 puuga juba ületatud,
milleks luba saadi, kuid kuna peade sassiajamist ja meelelahutust korrraga koos muude draamadega üle maa peale saadetakse... siis nad lodavad, et ei märgata, enne kui ninaaalt puud kadunud enamus, mis osade linnarahvaste meelsust ja hinge hoiavad...
Sest kui neid hingi nad ei saa jägu,
siis nad ei saa edukalt ka teisi zobistada, sest elus hingega inimesed, äratavad tööl ka teisi peenelt ülesse ja panevad igasttulnuk tontide plaanid ohtu paari kena siira naeratuse ja lahke sõna - hea ideega,14 March 2018 19:02
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
emm võib ikka teha,
14 March 2018 18:55
Margus Meigo replied to Eero Barndõk's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
ja hirm tuleb nahka ajada, et radikaalid, karta ei tohi aga kaamerate ees ei tohi iseennast ka hulluksteha, rahulikult, karmilt , enesekindlaks jääda14 March 2018 18:54
Margus Meigo replied to Eero Barndõk's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Sest kui üle eest isee võrk teha, siiis ma usun, et suur %, neid tegelasi ühtib ja nende kaudu omakorda saab infot kes neid kuidas ja mis jutuga saagima ja allakirjutama kutsus, alguses rahulikult võtta kuni info pakett käes, mudu poevad urgu peitu, kuid infot ise peaks agresiivselt koguma, mis sest et "seadusega keelatud"
kommunistid info kogumise vastu ,sest nad ise seda tahavad teha ainut.... nad ei soovi, et me ise saaksime järeldusi ja ühiseid punkte kokku viia14 March 2018 18:51
Margus Meigo replied to Eero Barndõk's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Karta on, nad peaks 3 mekesi sedasi nurka ajama, ja järjest võtma, ja siis netis kataloogi pidama, kes nad on, küll lopuks teada saame, kõik autonumbrid jne
ka poliitikud ja rahastajad14 March 2018 18:49
Margus Meigo replied to Eero Barndõk's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
et selliseid oma punti kunagi niisama naljat ei võta14 March 2018 18:47
Margus Meigo replied to Eero Barndõk's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
seda baasi kunagi tarvis läheb14 March 2018 18:47
Margus Meigo replied to Eero Barndõk's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Loodetavsti inimesed peavad korraliku baasi nendest inimestest, kes nende saagimistega seotud14 March 2018 18:47
Margus Meigo replied to Ylle Lennuk's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Eks vana puu tuleb austada ku ivana inimest... tuleb arusaada mis informatisooni ja meelsust need puud salvestavad ja meelsust hoiavad...
puude mahavõtmine massiliselt vimasel 5 el aastal, on otseselt seotud Eestivallutamise ja meelsuse allutamisega,
sellest peenest teadusest nad arusaanud lopuks, et puud on need mis meie meelsust aitasid alles hoida, ja meie üle programeeritud ajusi uuesti südamega samas taktis tuksuma panna..
Selle vea nad nüüd ennetada proovivad.. kõigepalt puu ja siis uus lopliuk uus kord... kus pole puid mis meelde vaimselt aitaks tuletada tegelikku minevikku... ja ega iga puu pole sama.. sama nagu iga inimene polesama...
neil omad isiksused ja misioonid,
see et nad lisaks kõigele meile õhtku, ilu, puhkust, närvimaandmaist ja psüholoogilist tuge pakuvad, on veel elementaarne lisa, kõrvaltoode
tegeli ktugi ja vajadus, on väga palju olulisem ja tähtsam..
uued puud mis veel uute võngete saatel kasvavad... need ei saa lapsest saati samad olema, mis vanakooli puud 1918 aegu ja 1940 date aegu mäletavad puud... kellele saab meeltega sisse minna ja infot vahetada mille omakorda saab inimene teistele edasi kanda... kui eelkõige, oma hingeturvaliselt hoida14 March 2018 18:43
Margus Meigo replied to Ylle Lennuk's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
"keeruline" tundus neile ka arusaamine, Emapaju osas,
kui aeti soga, et see mäda jne
siis tuli välja, et See Eesti ajaloo üks tervemaid sellesmõõdus puid mida nähtud,
mis omakorda näitas kui armastatud see puu oli... to ju aitas naisleikuse ja unenägudega to puu.. ja paljud leidsid lohtust sellest14 March 2018 18:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Siis saad panan veel, "näita kõiki " ja "Näita ajaliselt"
jms,
siin paar kolm valikut paremal nurgas... kuid veider, et esimesena nad vlaivad valiku, et peita...
peaks ikka alguses norm täis kommid olema ja siis filtreeri.. mitte, et nad otsustavad ise kelle komme näidata ja mitte... on ikka sundlooika..
misaitab censorit ka rakendada globaalselt suht kergesti, see pikem jutt jälle
jms,
siin paar kolm valikut paremal nurgas... kuid veider, et esimesena nad vlaivad valiku, et peita...
peaks ikka alguses norm täis kommid olema ja siis filtreeri.. mitte, et nad otsustavad ise kelle komme näidata ja mitte... on ikka sundlooika..
misaitab censorit ka rakendada globaalselt suht kergesti, see pikem jutt jälle
14 March 2018 18:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
praegugi.. uuritakse, puuritakse igast sügevusi, kartmatult
14 March 2018 18:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis arvatakse,et pole olnutki...
Nu puidutargad ei jätagi meeletult järgi endast, kes kõrgarengu tipus..
selles osas, et kuidas looduslähedane olla.. kuid siis nüüd jah.. ilma seenteta vist raske ette kujutadagi praeguseaja inimestel, mis võimetest ja oskustest kõik ilma oleme jäänud, ja arusaamadest, mis olemas ... arusaamad asjadest ja nähtustest mis olema,s mida praegu keeldutakse uskumast ja nägemast,
ja mida nüüd läbi tehnoloogia suure kaareg,a kunagi uuesti avastama hakatakse, kuid siis juba ohtlik võib olla..
Nu puidutargad ei jätagi meeletult järgi endast, kes kõrgarengu tipus..
selles osas, et kuidas looduslähedane olla.. kuid siis nüüd jah.. ilma seenteta vist raske ette kujutadagi praeguseaja inimestel, mis võimetest ja oskustest kõik ilma oleme jäänud, ja arusaamadest, mis olemas ... arusaamad asjadest ja nähtustest mis olema,s mida praegu keeldutakse uskumast ja nägemast,
ja mida nüüd läbi tehnoloogia suure kaareg,a kunagi uuesti avastama hakatakse, kuid siis juba ohtlik võib olla..
14 March 2018 18:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja siis Eesti rahvuskultuuri lahata prooviv raamat, kus ka ikka välja tuli, et müstilne see meie minevik... seest me ei jätnud eriti suuri postamente loodusesse ülesse , meelega
14 March 2018 18:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eila võtsin vanasõnad, aastast 1921 (see uus trükk sellel ajal juba oli, veel vanemast)
14 March 2018 18:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tänud Katre : ))
Kui kellegil oleks vaid masinad kodus olemas,.. hea fotokas mis lähedalt lubab pilti võtta, või skänner.. siis teeks päris palju igast häid koopiaid suht tasuta heameelega
Kui kellegil oleks vaid masinad kodus olemas,.. hea fotokas mis lähedalt lubab pilti võtta, või skänner.. siis teeks päris palju igast häid koopiaid suht tasuta heameelega
14 March 2018 18:31
Margus Meigo replied to Lele Reinsoo's comment.
Neid kommentaare ta üldse eip näidanud kui lives olin
14 March 2018 18:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga siin video vestlust siis korraga rohkem kui ühe inimesega eip saa teha vaheldumisi eks siis veel.. hmm..
okey okey kuid see kommentaaride nägematuse viga siin küll päris suur error
okey okey kuid see kommentaaride nägematuse viga siin küll päris suur error
14 March 2018 18:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Näed Näitabki nüüd ülejäänud kommentaare!
Urrgh!
Urrgh!
14 March 2018 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
"tal juba lasteaias loodud luurevõrk
et välja selgitada, kes ilmavaates nõrk"
et välja selgitada, kes ilmavaates nõrk"
14 March 2018 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/465307253584799/permalink/600270046755185/
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14 March 2018 18:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/465307253584799/permalink/600270046755185/
14 March 2018 18:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
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Punk pole punane
14 March 2018 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
naised
14 March 2018 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on Getriin Juhkam's photo.
See Väga kena pilt, rahuliku naeratusega siin ja muu ka kena
14 March 2018 17:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mystical this russian politics
Killed–died
A different sequence is related to the character of death of the Russian monarchs and can be traced from 1730 to 1825 and separately from 1825 to 1917: Anna died, Ivan VI was killed, Elizabeth died, Peter III was killed, Catherine the Great died, Paul was killed, Alexander I died. After an interruption of the sequence, when Nicholas I suppressed the revolt of Decembrists who threatened to kill him and his family, the sequence resumed when Nicholas I's son Alexander II was killed, Alexander III died, and Nicholas II was killed. However, Nicholas's designated successor Michael II was never confirmed as Emperor, and soon after the Russian Revolution of 1917, was murdered by revolutionaries.
Other patterns in Russian rulers' successions
Man–woman[
From 1682 to 1801 there was a strict "man–woman" sequence on the Russian throne: Peter I the Great, Catherine I, Peter II, Anna, Ivan VI, Elizabeth, Peter III, Catherine II the Great, Paul. Emperor Paul changed the rules of succession to the throne so that only men could rule the country, and the "man–woman" interchange was terminated. If Tsarina Sophia (a sister of Peter I and Ivan V and a powerful regent during their minority), is counted as a de facto ruler, then the sequence could be traced from 1676, when another of Sophia's brothers, Feodor III, succeeded to the throne.[2]
Killed–died
A different sequence is related to the character of death of the Russian monarchs and can be traced from 1730 to 1825 and separately from 1825 to 1917: Anna died, Ivan VI was killed, Elizabeth died, Peter III was killed, Catherine the Great died, Paul was killed, Alexander I died. After an interruption of the sequence, when Nicholas I suppressed the revolt of Decembrists who threatened to kill him and his family, the sequence resumed when Nicholas I's son Alexander II was killed, Alexander III died, and Nicholas II was killed. However, Nicholas's designated successor Michael II was never confirmed as Emperor, and soon after the Russian Revolution of 1917, was murdered by revolutionaries.
Other patterns in Russian rulers' successions
Man–woman[
From 1682 to 1801 there was a strict "man–woman" sequence on the Russian throne: Peter I the Great, Catherine I, Peter II, Anna, Ivan VI, Elizabeth, Peter III, Catherine II the Great, Paul. Emperor Paul changed the rules of succession to the throne so that only men could rule the country, and the "man–woman" interchange was terminated. If Tsarina Sophia (a sister of Peter I and Ivan V and a powerful regent during their minority), is counted as a de facto ruler, then the sequence could be traced from 1676, when another of Sophia's brothers, Feodor III, succeeded to the throne.[2]
14 March 2018 17:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
KUid ma kindlusemõttes audiosalvestise puhul, proovin ikkagi teha, uuriks , mis mu algklassis poolenijäänud krijatehnika võimaldaks : 9
14 March 2018 16:39
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Tõsi ta on, see vist muidu hea päev vist ikka eks?
Algselt vast oli küll sedasi
Algselt vast oli küll sedasi
14 March 2018 16:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
YESS
LEITUD!
LEITUD!
14 March 2018 16:28
Margus Meigo replied to Liis Ellert's comment.
ahjaa, selle asja, komntaari loppoint oli, et pole mitte asi selles, et puud ette jäävad signaalile, vaid et see relv puude eemaldamiseks,
sest inimesi pole saanud hingetuks orjastada, kuna puid palu meie hulgas kes elus.
seda läbi kõlade iidsete puude mass hävitamistega juba pikka aega tehtud (näiteks küla tee meil 800 a vanas külas, Kädval, kus päevas 3 autot sõidab, vahest 10 egi, ülejäänud kohalikud,
ja tavaline kaherealine tee... neil oli vaja seda hakata laiendama, ja kuigi ühelpool oli tühimaa siis võtsid nad ette laiendada sellelt poolt kus iidsed puud teeservas pikalt, .. kuigi see tundub igatpidi mitukorda kallim tegevus olema... kännud ju teealla jäävad jms. )
Kohe peale seda oli külas ka joomiste laine märgatvalt suurenenud ja isegi tulekahjusi tekkinud palju
sest inimesi pole saanud hingetuks orjastada, kuna puid palu meie hulgas kes elus.
seda läbi kõlade iidsete puude mass hävitamistega juba pikka aega tehtud (näiteks küla tee meil 800 a vanas külas, Kädval, kus päevas 3 autot sõidab, vahest 10 egi, ülejäänud kohalikud,
ja tavaline kaherealine tee... neil oli vaja seda hakata laiendama, ja kuigi ühelpool oli tühimaa siis võtsid nad ette laiendada sellelt poolt kus iidsed puud teeservas pikalt, .. kuigi see tundub igatpidi mitukorda kallim tegevus olema... kännud ju teealla jäävad jms. )
Kohe peale seda oli külas ka joomiste laine märgatvalt suurenenud ja isegi tulekahjusi tekkinud palju
14 March 2018 15:55
Margus Meigo replied to Liis Ellert's comment.
Kui ma vaid leiaks ühe inimesegi kes päriselt mind usuks, ma ise usun kõiki, ei saa aru miks nii raske leida ühte kes ka usuks.....
14 March 2018 15:47
Margus Meigo replied to Liis Ellert's comment.
Viljandis mingi imelik asi oli, suured vanad tugevad, ja ka noored Saare puud kui õigesti mäeletan, molemat pool kallast,
Kuivasid massiliselt, teiste puude vahel (võis ka teine puu olla kuid eks kui sinna jõeääärde minna ja mööda seda alla sinna poole kus need lendtaldriku lennutamise alad ja kortermajad on.. siis kindlasti näha)
Kohalikud ütlesid, et loodusteadlased kostsid, et see ainult mingi anaomaalia ja looduse eripära, ja et siin teha pole midagi.
Kuid jah, täiesti täielikult ülevalt alla kuivanud just kindlad puuliigid olid , osades kohtades puntis osades eraldiseisvalt... vägaveider..
Kuivasid massiliselt, teiste puude vahel (võis ka teine puu olla kuid eks kui sinna jõeääärde minna ja mööda seda alla sinna poole kus need lendtaldriku lennutamise alad ja kortermajad on.. siis kindlasti näha)
Kohalikud ütlesid, et loodusteadlased kostsid, et see ainult mingi anaomaalia ja looduse eripära, ja et siin teha pole midagi.
Kuid jah, täiesti täielikult ülevalt alla kuivanud just kindlad puuliigid olid , osades kohtades puntis osades eraldiseisvalt... vägaveider..
14 March 2018 15:29
Margus Meigo replied to Liis Ellert's comment.
Mis mul VÄGA imelik tundus, et Pikalt räägitud 5G võrgu wikipedia artikel on peaaegu tühi, väga vähe infot,
Eesstikeelses artiklis oli ka rohkem .
Siin mõned lingid ka, proovisin vaadata kas neil alternatiive on ja mida pakutakse.. jätan lingid siia ka igaks juhuks
The Dangers Of 5G – 11 Reasons To Be Concerned
https://www.electricsense.com/12399/5g-radiation-dangers/
will 5G Compete with the NBN
http://theconversation.com/5g-will-be-a-convenient-but-expensive-alternative-to-the-nbn-86216
company is Artemis, and the technology is pCell, a centralized-radio access network (C-RAN) architecture Steve Perlman invented
"operators still can't wrap their heads around it even when he shows them the technology working in front of their own eyes."
http://www.lightreading.com/mobile/fronthaul-c-ran/meet-the-5g-alternative-pcell/a/d-id/713490
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_Networks#Technology
https://whatsag.com/g/understanding_lte.php
"The term “5G” is actually marketing label for the 3GPP LTE from release 15 onwards.
http://www.3gpp.org/news-events/3gpp-news/1787-ontrack_5g
" Currently, machine-type communications (MTC) facilitate conversations between smart objects. 5G will pave the way for massive machine-type communications, which could support one million devices in a single square kilometer"
https://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/5g-waves/4458411/What-s-now-and-what-s-next-for-5G
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_in_unlicensed_spectrum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE-WLAN_Aggregation
Eesstikeelses artiklis oli ka rohkem .
Siin mõned lingid ka, proovisin vaadata kas neil alternatiive on ja mida pakutakse.. jätan lingid siia ka igaks juhuks
The Dangers Of 5G – 11 Reasons To Be Concerned
https://www.electricsense.com/12399/5g-radiation-dangers/
will 5G Compete with the NBN
http://theconversation.com/5g-will-be-a-convenient-but-expensive-alternative-to-the-nbn-86216
company is Artemis, and the technology is pCell, a centralized-radio access network (C-RAN) architecture Steve Perlman invented
"operators still can't wrap their heads around it even when he shows them the technology working in front of their own eyes."
http://www.lightreading.com/mobile/fronthaul-c-ran/meet-the-5g-alternative-pcell/a/d-id/713490
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_Networks#Technology
https://whatsag.com/g/understanding_lte.php
"The term “5G” is actually marketing label for the 3GPP LTE from release 15 onwards.
http://www.3gpp.org/news-events/3gpp-news/1787-ontrack_5g
" Currently, machine-type communications (MTC) facilitate conversations between smart objects. 5G will pave the way for massive machine-type communications, which could support one million devices in a single square kilometer"
https://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/5g-waves/4458411/What-s-now-and-what-s-next-for-5G
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_in_unlicensed_spectrum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE-WLAN_Aggregation
https://www.electricsense.com/12399/5g-radiation-dangers/
14 March 2018 15:26
Margus Meigo replied to Liis Ellert's comment.
Liis Ellert
Kogu selle 5G teema ümber alati mingi veider " võnge " olnud,
Nagu nende lehtede poolt ka kes selle vastast infot jagavad, vast nad meelega on mürgitatud mingi ebaõige infoga. (ma artiklite ja teemade kooslustega tajun suts juba enne kerget lugemist, kas inimesed teksti algmateriali osas on heameelsed..ja kunagi aastaid tagasi kui märkasin seda juttu neil.. siis jäi mingi paha tunne külge ja ei soovinud lugeda, sest nende lehtede sisu ja seotusest jäi alati puudu see link, kus ma oleks tundnud, et inimesed ise info jagamisel arusaavad, mida nad jagavad. )
Vahest üks strateegia, elementaarne suurkoporatsioonidel on, ise enda toote kohta ise kahjulikke artikleid kirjutada ja neid tuhandetes weebilehe võrkudes jagades, segades segamini võlts ja päris kahjud,
et siis pärast kes iganes hakkavad neid asju edasi jagama (olles mitte telefoni ja raadiojaamade spetsalistid kellel laboratoorseid tuttavaid kes just seda ala nii taimede kui loomade osas testinud... keda planeedipeal kokku on suht vähe, tundub eeldada).
Seega nad palju panevad läbisegi võimaluse korral miskeid asju, kus pärast lobitöölised loevad riigiametnikele ette "Telekrammi stiilis" artikleid näitamaks, kui ebaõigest inad ühest ja teisest asjast arusaanud (ja siis mugavalt kuna päevakord ainult paari asja mahutab... mugavalt muud päriskahjud jäävad arutamata ja otsus tuleb langetada sellepõhjal mis päevajooksul jagatud sai... seega enamus ametnikud saab sedasi kergesti purki panna, kus nad isegi tugeva sisetundepuhul ei tohiks vastu mõelda, kuna 5g jms vastased on segelt ebaadekvaatsesse valgusesse pandud. )
Linnainimestele vist rohkem sobib jah see 5G ja .. mis mul silme jäi, et muudab taimede elu ja olustikku, suretab loodust välja see kiirgus.
Seega jah, peaks päris kindlad mingisugused pidepunktid leidma selle vastase võitluses,
kuna on 10+ eri kahjut, ja nendest osad võivad meelega algatajate poolt vigaselt esitletud olla, et kõike muud alavääristada (umbes nagu need metsamõõtjad siin kes numbritega manipuleerivad, kuid veel jõhkramalt, ette planeerides... sest kahtlaselt palju ja ühesugust infot selles osas oli teatud sorti vandenõu lehtedel, mis igasugust muud ebaõiget promo ka tegid Hillary vastu ja muud kulunud teooriad mis alati poolikud ja ei vii kuskile. )
Ka nende asjade puhul, tegelikult peaksime pingsalt otsima Sügavaid teadjaid,
kes on kursis vaimude, inglite, tulnukate, olendite, planeetidevaheliste ja doimensioonide vaheliste suhtluste ja olenditega, ning uurivalt ja jumalateenivalt psüheteeliat kasutavate inimestega .. kes saaksid öelda, kes olendid on algatuse juures ja mida see erinevates tasemetes see tehnoloogia teeb.
Sest ilmselgelt, see tuleb meelde jätta : MITTE KUNAGI MITTE MILLEGI SUURE PÕHJUSEKS EI OLE RAHA.
See on rahameeste ..või pigem rahaväliste olendite propakanda, et meid pimestada, pannes uskuma, et raha on see mille pärast.. alati aga tuleb meeles pidada kes tegelikult on rahaomanikud, ja selle systeemi välised, nad EI VAJA ju raha, pole kunagi vajanud,
parimal juhul vajavad, et rahvas oleks rahast sõltuvuses et neid siis läbi raha manipuleerima tegema asju mis Neil tegelikult vaja...
ja kindalsti suur hulk olendeid vaatab mille kaudu saab manipuleeridaja terima inimesi enesehävitusse ja vaatavad, et kui neile kulda vms lubada, siis nad teevad igast enesehävituse asju ,midaiganes küsida... ja siis iniemsed lühinägelikult arvavad, et raha oli lopp punkt,
ei raha oli algatuseks-vahelüliks,
Kuid see kes seda orkestreerib, temal ju hoopis muud misioonid, pühakohtadele ja muudele vaimsetele kohtadele legaalselt alatiseks ligipääs saada, kaitsetaimed ja inimeste mentaalsed võimed nullida selleks, et meid paremini hoida vangistuses ja väliste, südamesuhtlejatest meid eemal hoida, ... et mõtted ja teod oled sellised, et meie loome võime ja ligipääsud mida sisaldame maa südamikule ja jumalariigile, et neile asjadele ligi saada, et meie sisse kasvada läbi laste sündides ja rohke rohkem veidrikuid me maal aksepteerima panna.. kellel selgelt ebaterve eluviis... ja õpetada meid ohtlikutesse kunstidesse mis omakorda meid lukustab ja hinge nõuab rahvakeeli.
Siin tuleb väljamõelda.. et kui puud on need mida nad ka likvideerida soovivad,.. eriti kuna see taimedele suht kahjulikult mõjub...
ja need olendid suht KINDLALT saavad olla sedasi, neid seadmeid teinud, et nad OLEKSID loodusele kahjulikud, piisavas koguses, sedasi, et effekt alles mitmekümne aastapärast näha on kui uued puud enam ei kasva vaimujõuga...
väliselt on puud aga samakatki kui inimesed ise seesmiselt ja ei oma enam iidse loodusega ühendust..
Kes tab aga palun kidlasti uurige ja salvestage eri kaustadesse, ka jamat infot,
ja lee koopiatena ka olulistest kokkuvõttetest, sest ega internetti alles ei jää asjad alatiseks... osad asjad täheliselt ka muudetakse kiiresti kui vaja.
Kogu selle 5G teema ümber alati mingi veider " võnge " olnud,
Nagu nende lehtede poolt ka kes selle vastast infot jagavad, vast nad meelega on mürgitatud mingi ebaõige infoga. (ma artiklite ja teemade kooslustega tajun suts juba enne kerget lugemist, kas inimesed teksti algmateriali osas on heameelsed..ja kunagi aastaid tagasi kui märkasin seda juttu neil.. siis jäi mingi paha tunne külge ja ei soovinud lugeda, sest nende lehtede sisu ja seotusest jäi alati puudu see link, kus ma oleks tundnud, et inimesed ise info jagamisel arusaavad, mida nad jagavad. )
Vahest üks strateegia, elementaarne suurkoporatsioonidel on, ise enda toote kohta ise kahjulikke artikleid kirjutada ja neid tuhandetes weebilehe võrkudes jagades, segades segamini võlts ja päris kahjud,
et siis pärast kes iganes hakkavad neid asju edasi jagama (olles mitte telefoni ja raadiojaamade spetsalistid kellel laboratoorseid tuttavaid kes just seda ala nii taimede kui loomade osas testinud... keda planeedipeal kokku on suht vähe, tundub eeldada).
Seega nad palju panevad läbisegi võimaluse korral miskeid asju, kus pärast lobitöölised loevad riigiametnikele ette "Telekrammi stiilis" artikleid näitamaks, kui ebaõigest inad ühest ja teisest asjast arusaanud (ja siis mugavalt kuna päevakord ainult paari asja mahutab... mugavalt muud päriskahjud jäävad arutamata ja otsus tuleb langetada sellepõhjal mis päevajooksul jagatud sai... seega enamus ametnikud saab sedasi kergesti purki panna, kus nad isegi tugeva sisetundepuhul ei tohiks vastu mõelda, kuna 5g jms vastased on segelt ebaadekvaatsesse valgusesse pandud. )
Linnainimestele vist rohkem sobib jah see 5G ja .. mis mul silme jäi, et muudab taimede elu ja olustikku, suretab loodust välja see kiirgus.
Seega jah, peaks päris kindlad mingisugused pidepunktid leidma selle vastase võitluses,
kuna on 10+ eri kahjut, ja nendest osad võivad meelega algatajate poolt vigaselt esitletud olla, et kõike muud alavääristada (umbes nagu need metsamõõtjad siin kes numbritega manipuleerivad, kuid veel jõhkramalt, ette planeerides... sest kahtlaselt palju ja ühesugust infot selles osas oli teatud sorti vandenõu lehtedel, mis igasugust muud ebaõiget promo ka tegid Hillary vastu ja muud kulunud teooriad mis alati poolikud ja ei vii kuskile. )
Ka nende asjade puhul, tegelikult peaksime pingsalt otsima Sügavaid teadjaid,
kes on kursis vaimude, inglite, tulnukate, olendite, planeetidevaheliste ja doimensioonide vaheliste suhtluste ja olenditega, ning uurivalt ja jumalateenivalt psüheteeliat kasutavate inimestega .. kes saaksid öelda, kes olendid on algatuse juures ja mida see erinevates tasemetes see tehnoloogia teeb.
Sest ilmselgelt, see tuleb meelde jätta : MITTE KUNAGI MITTE MILLEGI SUURE PÕHJUSEKS EI OLE RAHA.
See on rahameeste ..või pigem rahaväliste olendite propakanda, et meid pimestada, pannes uskuma, et raha on see mille pärast.. alati aga tuleb meeles pidada kes tegelikult on rahaomanikud, ja selle systeemi välised, nad EI VAJA ju raha, pole kunagi vajanud,
parimal juhul vajavad, et rahvas oleks rahast sõltuvuses et neid siis läbi raha manipuleerima tegema asju mis Neil tegelikult vaja...
ja kindalsti suur hulk olendeid vaatab mille kaudu saab manipuleeridaja terima inimesi enesehävitusse ja vaatavad, et kui neile kulda vms lubada, siis nad teevad igast enesehävituse asju ,midaiganes küsida... ja siis iniemsed lühinägelikult arvavad, et raha oli lopp punkt,
ei raha oli algatuseks-vahelüliks,
Kuid see kes seda orkestreerib, temal ju hoopis muud misioonid, pühakohtadele ja muudele vaimsetele kohtadele legaalselt alatiseks ligipääs saada, kaitsetaimed ja inimeste mentaalsed võimed nullida selleks, et meid paremini hoida vangistuses ja väliste, südamesuhtlejatest meid eemal hoida, ... et mõtted ja teod oled sellised, et meie loome võime ja ligipääsud mida sisaldame maa südamikule ja jumalariigile, et neile asjadele ligi saada, et meie sisse kasvada läbi laste sündides ja rohke rohkem veidrikuid me maal aksepteerima panna.. kellel selgelt ebaterve eluviis... ja õpetada meid ohtlikutesse kunstidesse mis omakorda meid lukustab ja hinge nõuab rahvakeeli.
Siin tuleb väljamõelda.. et kui puud on need mida nad ka likvideerida soovivad,.. eriti kuna see taimedele suht kahjulikult mõjub...
ja need olendid suht KINDLALT saavad olla sedasi, neid seadmeid teinud, et nad OLEKSID loodusele kahjulikud, piisavas koguses, sedasi, et effekt alles mitmekümne aastapärast näha on kui uued puud enam ei kasva vaimujõuga...
väliselt on puud aga samakatki kui inimesed ise seesmiselt ja ei oma enam iidse loodusega ühendust..
Kes tab aga palun kidlasti uurige ja salvestage eri kaustadesse, ka jamat infot,
ja lee koopiatena ka olulistest kokkuvõttetest, sest ega internetti alles ei jää asjad alatiseks... osad asjad täheliselt ka muudetakse kiiresti kui vaja.
14 March 2018 15:24
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
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jah aga ilma digi koopiata, on raamatud samahästi kui potensiaalselt hukule määratud,
Ja digikoopiast, peab omakorda veel erinevates maa võrkudes koopiad olema, et kindlam olla saaksime.
Palju mis on paberil... kaob kuni lopuks on kadunud... kindlam tunne kui digis olemas ja siis saab üle planeedi kergesti jagada, teine teiselpool ekraani väljaprintida13 March 2018 21:49
Margus Meigo commented on Gellu Olen's photo.
Reaalses elus nad ikka mitukümmend aastat käsivad eemal olla ka ja vahest kauemgi, isegi parimatest parimad ja olulisemad, ainukesed.
Kuid nooo.. siis enda südames jääme ikka lootma, et ju nad kuskil päris oma südames, mis siin maapeal pole ligipääsetav, on ikka meiega.. kuskil... päris maailmas
Kuid nooo.. siis enda südames jääme ikka lootma, et ju nad kuskil päris oma südames, mis siin maapeal pole ligipääsetav, on ikka meiega.. kuskil... päris maailmas
13 March 2018 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to Liis Ellert's comment.
Mis see 5G on ja kas saad sellest selgitada mida ta siin ütleb?
13 March 2018 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on Rea Raus's post.
Kindlasti meil on vaja jägida, kuidas metsaraie kaitsjad räägivad, mis numbreid nad kasutavad jne.
Lihtne näide,
TallinaTVs promos viimati keegi üleolevalt "Näe viimase 5 aasta jooksul me oleme sabiilselt sama palju metsa maha võtnud, ei midagi hullu, ebaroatsionaalne propakanda ja paanika"
Kuid unustas mainida, et viimased 5 aastat et kõik... olid kõvast üle normi...
seega igasugused, kõige fataalsemad graafikud lisaks reaalsetele harju keskmistele joonistele.
Tuleb teha kaardid, Kus on veel alles metsi mida pole 100 ja mida pole 200 aastat puudutud,
Ehk mis on "metsa" nime väärt vanas mõistes,
ja need alad omakorda tuleb selgelt arusaadavaks teha, kohalikud inimesed märkajaks panna, uurida kes neis kandis... ja märkida kõik need metsatöölised, firmad ja rahamaksjad kinni kes kus mida saevad,
Me enda karmid hinnangud võivad veel liialt leebed olla ehk, kui kunagi avastame, kui karmilt tegelikult oleks pidanud kõike seda vaatama, ja mis mahtudes olema...
Oluline pole ju, ei saa metsa mõõta ainult puu ülesseskasvamise ajaga.. mis on siis ÜHE põlve vanune mets... milles eriti palju maagiat veel vist ei saa sündida eks... täitsa uued, suur osa ka inimeste käe ja näo järgi pandud... kuid kus on need kahe, kolme puupõlvesed metsad?
Et reaalse tunnetuse saaksid inimesed, kui suur % on järgi metsasi , mis on metsa ja mis on Päris metsa nime väärt, mitte ainult metsaalge.
Igaksjuhuks tasub igasuguseid andmeid säilitada, kes teab milleks tarvis,
Lihtne näide,
TallinaTVs promos viimati keegi üleolevalt "Näe viimase 5 aasta jooksul me oleme sabiilselt sama palju metsa maha võtnud, ei midagi hullu, ebaroatsionaalne propakanda ja paanika"
Kuid unustas mainida, et viimased 5 aastat et kõik... olid kõvast üle normi...
seega igasugused, kõige fataalsemad graafikud lisaks reaalsetele harju keskmistele joonistele.
Tuleb teha kaardid, Kus on veel alles metsi mida pole 100 ja mida pole 200 aastat puudutud,
Ehk mis on "metsa" nime väärt vanas mõistes,
ja need alad omakorda tuleb selgelt arusaadavaks teha, kohalikud inimesed märkajaks panna, uurida kes neis kandis... ja märkida kõik need metsatöölised, firmad ja rahamaksjad kinni kes kus mida saevad,
Me enda karmid hinnangud võivad veel liialt leebed olla ehk, kui kunagi avastame, kui karmilt tegelikult oleks pidanud kõike seda vaatama, ja mis mahtudes olema...
Oluline pole ju, ei saa metsa mõõta ainult puu ülesseskasvamise ajaga.. mis on siis ÜHE põlve vanune mets... milles eriti palju maagiat veel vist ei saa sündida eks... täitsa uued, suur osa ka inimeste käe ja näo järgi pandud... kuid kus on need kahe, kolme puupõlvesed metsad?
Et reaalse tunnetuse saaksid inimesed, kui suur % on järgi metsasi , mis on metsa ja mis on Päris metsa nime väärt, mitte ainult metsaalge.
Igaksjuhuks tasub igasuguseid andmeid säilitada, kes teab milleks tarvis,
13 March 2018 21:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
õnneks muidugi tuleb inimestele mõistus pähe!
eksju..
eksju..
13 March 2018 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on Rea Raus's post.
Mõistlik lugeda, kui ka teistmoodi arvestatakse.
Muidugi ma arvan, et siin on tegelikult tegu ka meie vaimse kaitse eemaldmaisega, riigilt, et saaks lõplikult sellest planeedi nurgast üle siin...
Seni kuni puud hinge annavad ja vanad metsad järgi, siis veel lootus, et Jumalaga kooslus ja ürgsed tunded alles, ... kui aga koos mälestustega on läinud ka tunded ja käega katsutavad kodumaa metsa sügavused...
siis millega seda taastada enam...
Muidugi ma arvan, et siin on tegelikult tegu ka meie vaimse kaitse eemaldmaisega, riigilt, et saaks lõplikult sellest planeedi nurgast üle siin...
Seni kuni puud hinge annavad ja vanad metsad järgi, siis veel lootus, et Jumalaga kooslus ja ürgsed tunded alles, ... kui aga koos mälestustega on läinud ka tunded ja käega katsutavad kodumaa metsa sügavused...
siis millega seda taastada enam...
13 March 2018 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
täitsa veider.. tulin rahakotiga.. ja omaarust... nu kudias ma selle kaotada sain.. loodan, et neiel jäi lauale
13 March 2018 20:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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hiljem panen loplikult uuesti ülesse13 March 2018 19:46
Margus Meigo replied to Tai Vo's comment.
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Ei nu mul naturaalne stiil, nii nagu inimene päriselt välja näeb, et ma peegliees ennast muutmas ei käi, sest mõtlesin, et selline olla nagu oleme on mõistlikum inimestel, siis kasvame reaalsemateks,13 March 2018 17:47
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Sina ka?13 March 2018 17:45
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Piberman's comment.
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Sina oled selle Video parim troll, kelle ma siia videosse ka lindistasin, kellest saame hea musternäidise teha mis sellistega peale hakata.
Tänud, muidu mul oligi siin kriis kaelas, et ühtegi "sellist" ei tulegi vestlusesse,13 March 2018 17:44
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kas tead mis on Hipi ?13 March 2018 17:41
Margus Meigo replied to Mer Ko's comment.
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Nu tema ka jah.. taimetoitlane ja..13 March 2018 17:39
Margus Meigo replied to Markus Lundver's comment.
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kirja ei saanud kätte aga kutset nägin,
liitun13 March 2018 17:36
Margus Meigo replied to Markus Lundver's comment.
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srry13 March 2018 17:35
Margus Meigo replied to Markus Lundver's comment.
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Suts sassi ajasin :D13 March 2018 17:35
Margus Meigo replied to Tai Vo's comment.
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Un jep.. see mingi riistavara jama ma pakun13 March 2018 17:35
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2011 viimane pilt kus veel kärbitud kaudselt oli miskit...vaat mul galeriis kuskil EU kuninga noorte auhinnagaalal Eestit esindamas13 March 2018 17:34
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5 kuni 713 March 2018 17:33
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See tundub peaaegu liiga ulmeline13 March 2018 17:32
Margus Meigo replied to Mart Väljataga's comment.
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Hey Hey, alles nüüd nägin,
Just saw message now,
All good in Sweden ?
What agency or intelligence businesss You do in Sweden ?13 March 2018 17:32
Margus Meigo replied to Ralf Nõmmik's comment.
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Muidu veel selle tsiki poole jäin, (muidugi ta närvis oleks kui tsikiks kutsuda, kuid nu ei käitunud ju täis naisterahvana kui sedasi solvub, plärtsub, süüdistab ja mõnitab, ründab ja ähvardab.. nii siis kui jääd ja nii siis kui lähed :D ulme suts, kuid noooh.. eks ma oleks pidanud ise targem olema, kui ta ütles mulle, et enamuse elust ta harjunud surnutega suhtlema peale tööalase.. ja et surnute ja viamude jms tal igapäevane tegelik toimetamine... egas ma tea.. ma neid kübaratega vaime ise taga eip aja, ajan oma rada... mis mu arust kõigile parem ja see mida nad ise vajavad ja otsivad... et sellised tööriistad ja mõtte jupid turvaliselt käiku panna, vaiselt nähtamatult eri kohtadest tõestetud ja salvestatud.. et siis kui kunagi võrgud välja tümmata..)13 March 2018 17:30
Margus Meigo replied to Ralf Nõmmik's comment.
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Hey, seda kommentaari alles nüüd nägin.
Mul Viljandis elualune läks sellenaisega lahku kellega lootsin, et jääme usaldusse.
Kuid kuna tal VÄGA esoteeriline taust, siis selliseid hullusi tuli kuni füüsiliselt pidime eemalduma teineteisest, ...eks ma juba 3 korda läksin igakord tagasi nõustusin kuni nägin, et need vaimud ei lase tal olla,
lisaks naabritest oli ka juba kahju, ja imelik... sest hulluste perioodidel selliseid asju kriistas, et isegi poleks olnud viisakas välja kannatada, ....
Kuid jah, kui antakse valikud, et kui lahkud tullakse kallale ja tehakse hullu.. ja siiis kui ei ole lahkunud siis päeva-paari jooksul tuleb vastupidine süüdistus, et "Miks ei lähe" ... ja kui siis ikkagi lähed sis otsitakse ime kadu ülesse ja pisarsilmi siiralt lubatakse olla korras kui ainult nüüd korra veel usaldan nagu lubasin, et usaldan lõpuni ja ei hülja...
Nu ja siis kõik eri need asjad läbisegi, päris suur psühHholoogiline trall. .. ja siis ükspäev mõtlesin, et hetkel tundub olema kõige turvalisem tasakaal lahkuda, sedasi, et inimene ikka omas meeltes koos oleks ja midagi hullu ei teeks ja samas, et oleks ka sisetunne, et õige lahkuda.. ja siis see tunne tuligi.. ja läksin, kuid ikkagi ,Viljandi väga kodutundena võnkus, selline oma hea tunne selles linnas ja kohas.
Eks vaatab veel, midagi head viljandis ikka ka .. lootustes jään tegema : )13 March 2018 17:28
Margus Meigo replied to Ralf Nõmmik's comment.
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See tunne, et seda vaja tähistada mul iseseisvalt ammu kadus juba.. viimanekord sõbrad külla tulid ja mind veensid, et mul sünnipäev :D
Kuid yeah, eks ajas liikumisega vast kaob see tunne regulaarselt iseennast tähistada13 March 2018 17:15
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Türil13 March 2018 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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https://www.fbdown. /net/private-downloader.php12 March 2018 21:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Muide, Su kaane kohta, ütleks: Maybee Maybeee12 March 2018 21:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Express yaaarself :D12 March 2018 20:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Nu mis teema on inimesed?12 March 2018 20:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Näiteks See: https://www.facebook.com/taavi.kask.50?fref=gc&dti=53762337308176712 March 2018 20:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Et siis FB trollidest juttu , enne uurin kas meil siin audio toimib?12 March 2018 20:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu jah, eks see iniemste teadvusest läbi ka läheb
12 March 2018 19:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
läbujutuga st
12 March 2018 19:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu jah, Lylika, siia ma soovisingi, et Sa märgiksid, et
"Internet sai otsa Margusel"
Kuid mis muidu naerma ajas?
"Internet sai otsa Margusel"
Kuid mis muidu naerma ajas?
12 March 2018 19:40
Margus Meigo commented on Ott Markus Pruul's post.
Geniaalne,
eks ta suht võtab jah enamust, kes saavad mida küsivad
eks ta suht võtab jah enamust, kes saavad mida küsivad
12 March 2018 19:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See Jalgarttaga väntamise ja mitmed muud osad, näiatavd kommunistliku maailma eri nurkasi päris selgelt
10 March 2018 19:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov seda ma jah, kohe alguses vaatasin
Jaganud ka paarid korrad seinal
Jaganud ka paarid korrad seinal
10 March 2018 19:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Räägivad Sellest, kuik kiiresti mudu huupi autoga koomas koahs tühja sõidavad, sama üikalt, pikemaltki, kui Kora pealiku ja Usa asepresidendi kohtumist
10 March 2018 05:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See on VENEMAA Kokkusaamine,
Kimmiga,
sest Trumpo nagu me sind teame, oled ja on Venamaa oma ja seega Tim arvab ka, et venema tõestusega saab kokku,
kuid välismaale peab
Kimmiga,
sest Trumpo nagu me sind teame, oled ja on Venamaa oma ja seega Tim arvab ka, et venema tõestusega saab kokku,
kuid välismaale peab
10 March 2018 05:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
muidugi soovitaks enne.
10 March 2018 05:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
:)
10 March 2018 04:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// kuigi see pole selle asja esijalgne põhimote, aga eelise, IM kuue vaimuaknalduste jätkuna, saab näidayta rahulikkuma täiselu versiooni
10 March 2018 03:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
selles linnapea osas, ta näitab paraleelis ka võimalik uviamu haldamist ilma suhete sõjaga
//
//
10 March 2018 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Koorem. Danny on raskes seisus, kui saab teada, et ühe röövi panid toime sõjaväelased. Metroos kahtlustatakse pommi, kuid selgub, et tegemist on tuntud tänavakunstniku tööga. Garrett ja Gormley vaidlevad, kuidas selle tagajärgedega toime tulla."
Kolab nii igavalt ag asüsee palju kvaliteetsem isegi töäitsa väljameldud süsee korral, sest pigem näitavad nad suhtlus vormi ja õpetavad tegelikku tegevust ja käitumist
Kolab nii igavalt ag asüsee palju kvaliteetsem isegi töäitsa väljameldud süsee korral, sest pigem näitavad nad suhtlus vormi ja õpetavad tegelikku tegevust ja käitumist
10 March 2018 03:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Õigiuskohus jah
10 March 2018 03:07
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umbes nagu kohus olekski reaalne asi
10 March 2018 03:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja kes need lipsuga mehed on, kele juures peab
ikka sellistel tasemetel tegeleased tegelema
ikka sellistel tasemetel tegeleased tegelema
10 March 2018 03:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
International Monetary Fund
NewSchools Venture Fund
NewSchools Venture Fund
10 March 2018 03:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lii
(kes pealt loeb ja eip mosist,a siis I.M.8 pealiskomentaar, pris realsuse osasde vjaliek välja nopimisi ja slegitmisi selgimaiseks)
(kes pealt loeb ja eip mosist,a siis I.M.8 pealiskomentaar, pris realsuse osasde vjaliek välja nopimisi ja slegitmisi selgimaiseks)
10 March 2018 03:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid nende valitsus tehnaloogiate, ja ghostbustersi, viamu maailma püüdjaid , nad jah , näitavad.. .
10 March 2018 03:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eih, nad liiga inimesed. Kuid sellsit muusikat polnud vaja
10 March 2018 03:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ega need haiged teda ometi surnuks ei mürgitanud sääl?
10 March 2018 03:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mäöödalaskmised on ka filmis lubaamatud,
Miks nad peaksid mööda laskma, veel mitu korda ka
Miks nad peaksid mööda laskma, veel mitu korda ka
10 March 2018 02:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aegruumi auke tehakse teglt, pääsemiseks,
//realsused mixitud selles eri suuna liikmised eri reaalssue vahel ,see selleks, nad enanst heana näitama ju peavad
//realsused mixitud selles eri suuna liikmised eri reaalssue vahel ,see selleks, nad enanst heana näitama ju peavad
10 March 2018 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
näitab ka mis mood isaab peale saata hundid
10 March 2018 02:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja ku inad tegijad oleks
// ja see inimkarakteti näitmaine läbi Tommi.. nu heaküll, filmile jah, kuig pole usutav et sama tegelane nii teeks, kuid kui oletame, et on, siis see ka juurde lisada selle loigu arusaamale
// ja see inimkarakteti näitmaine läbi Tommi.. nu heaküll, filmile jah, kuig pole usutav et sama tegelane nii teeks, kuid kui oletame, et on, siis see ka juurde lisada selle loigu arusaamale
10 March 2018 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
missee mees kes see Tom , on.. ta ju ei tööta Süsteemi jaoks...
ja nu see teine karaker omaorda mis see iganes on,
// mälu mäeltamine ka selles kohas
ja nu see teine karaker omaorda mis see iganes on,
// mälu mäeltamine ka selles kohas
10 March 2018 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
filmi syste eon tehtud, usustavaks, lihtsaks,
arusaadavaks, fyysilise abiga, mis paraleelselt võimalik ,
arusaadavaks, fyysilise abiga, mis paraleelselt võimalik ,
10 March 2018 02:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see kila silams,
see muidu päris vamu kila olemas,
ku inad kontorellis on isiksuse üle
enamssti
see muidu päris vamu kila olemas,
ku inad kontorellis on isiksuse üle
enamssti
10 March 2018 02:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
üle võtmine tähenab ka potensiaalselt kõiki riigis oleva meedia kanalite üle võimu või survet omava,
nagu Eestlaste Kolmnurk(Uus) & vana, tuleb ..
niu need tasemed ka kuid ka suures osas, enamust mis tuleb meediast ja lõpuks kõik ainult nende lubatud mida kellegi riigi pekanal näitab, sellist mitte karvavõrdki, mis pole lubetud Naende arvates või ka ei tohiks olla SELLE puudust, mis nad ütrlvad, et peaks olema, ja slele taksitmaist, nad rünnakuna sisekontrollis votavad, kus meegea osa iniemsi org , ERR porg erinevas osas, ülevõetud ,
nagu Eestlaste Kolmnurk(Uus) & vana, tuleb ..
niu need tasemed ka kuid ka suures osas, enamust mis tuleb meediast ja lõpuks kõik ainult nende lubatud mida kellegi riigi pekanal näitab, sellist mitte karvavõrdki, mis pole lubetud Naende arvates või ka ei tohiks olla SELLE puudust, mis nad ütrlvad, et peaks olema, ja slele taksitmaist, nad rünnakuna sisekontrollis votavad, kus meegea osa iniemsi org , ERR porg erinevas osas, ülevõetud ,
10 March 2018 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mart Laari hirmutati samamoodi,
kui peaministrit,
Mart ikka Läks,
kui peaministrit,
Mart ikka Läks,
10 March 2018 02:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
vaimukanaldused inimkehade,s silma kile järgi ID kontroll Ülesse tõste
kehadesse,
kehadesse,
10 March 2018 02:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See sikli kihutuse osa eriti ajut piinav ja arusaamatu miks ikakgi sinnamaadi mindi, peale elektri andmist okey ta jooksis, sest arvas, et mees teda ei opi samakiiresti usaldama kui ta meest oppis ku ita kambirst lahti päästis vms ?
10 March 2018 02:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
reaalset
10 March 2018 02:18
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inimesed kes temaga räälima lasti olid madalas realsuses v realasuse vastu ja neil polnud plaaniski arusaada muud reaalsust
10 March 2018 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ärges ära trippige enikaua kui see välja pole veel tulnud, maailmale, keda hoiti
Eetris Vangis
Eetris Vangis
10 March 2018 02:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
päris huvitav need mentaalsed pisted mis kehasse, pähe kukla nurkadessegi tulevad, mis pidi ettekujtus olema ,kudias sis pärast seesmiselt ,pool mõnusalt see lihas veel haigeks jääb
10 March 2018 02:15
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makaronid lähevad ka avastasin
10 March 2018 02:13
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kogumsiels asjad hapuks lähevad
10 March 2018 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
urrgh tahaks päris asja teha hing ära suretuma hakkab kui aegajalt neid ajsu vähe mida sedasi edais liigutada, teha saaks
10 March 2018 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Isegi ku ifilmi plot on Matiriaatlik,
Kus naine on tegelik varjatyud superhereo,
Kud seda maailmade piirist ühest paraleel liituvast ilamst tise üleaastumisena ka vaadata, ,
sest selle mehe elus polnud Badisi, päris sopru,
enne kes Tom Cruis mängib,
ja siis ... //... // reaallsuse tagais lükkamine.,
Naise elektri löök ja teavuse edasi lükkamine , Hypoonis katkestus
Kus naine on tegelik varjatyud superhereo,
Kud seda maailmade piirist ühest paraleel liituvast ilamst tise üleaastumisena ka vaadata, ,
sest selle mehe elus polnud Badisi, päris sopru,
enne kes Tom Cruis mängib,
ja siis ... //... // reaallsuse tagais lükkamine.,
Naise elektri löök ja teavuse edasi lükkamine , Hypoonis katkestus
10 March 2018 02:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hmm siin ka mitte // Osin yhte asja mis pidi Kirjutamatta lehel olema ,ja siis juba poolteistmeetrit teksti varstikerida ja ta asukohta nagu ei oskaks saata mind ekranil kus need kohad on ,
poel nag usee funktsioon alles natuke aega oleks arvutis olnud
poel nag usee funktsioon alles natuke aega oleks arvutis olnud
10 March 2018 02:05
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inimese kohus riigi heaolule kaasaaidata
10 March 2018 02:00
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Riigi kohus on inimest usaldada
10 March 2018 01:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
reklaamides ei pthi ka naist solvata,
Mingi sedasi, et masinat pannakse täis väärtuslikust Queen danisest ülespoole,
Avalikus veetluses enamasti peakski olema lubatud naidata naist ianult Kunglikuses
Mingi sedasi, et masinat pannakse täis väärtuslikust Queen danisest ülespoole,
Avalikus veetluses enamasti peakski olema lubatud naidata naist ianult Kunglikuses
10 March 2018 01:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja inimeste omavaheline koos töö peab näitama,
nagu enne ütlesin,
seda, et realasused molemad tasakaalus mis moodi ennast hoidma peaks, et see mis on saaks tõsi olla, Jupitigi kasvõi, j
(asjad mis saavad jupiti, ei pruugi saada teistsuguse suurse jupiti, kuid võib saada terviklikult või jupiti, sellise jupina mis võimalik aga mitte ilmtingimatta ei pea reaalsus enam võimalik lema peale moningat astet,
on see põhiline tase ja aste, unustuse teele määratud tehnologia,
et iniemste l
alles eip jääks... sest me mälusalvestamise asjad leiutamismie ja enseimetluse ja muud üksteise kunsti ande,
sellepärast ka selle maialma lpu ja kunsti osas ültesin, et kui kunst kaon kaon ka maailm)
nagu enne ütlesin,
seda, et realasused molemad tasakaalus mis moodi ennast hoidma peaks, et see mis on saaks tõsi olla, Jupitigi kasvõi, j
(asjad mis saavad jupiti, ei pruugi saada teistsuguse suurse jupiti, kuid võib saada terviklikult või jupiti, sellise jupina mis võimalik aga mitte ilmtingimatta ei pea reaalsus enam võimalik lema peale moningat astet,
on see põhiline tase ja aste, unustuse teele määratud tehnologia,
et iniemste l
alles eip jääks... sest me mälusalvestamise asjad leiutamismie ja enseimetluse ja muud üksteise kunsti ande,
sellepärast ka selle maialma lpu ja kunsti osas ültesin, et kui kunst kaon kaon ka maailm)
10 March 2018 01:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Olgugi , et palgatud lauseid koos kaaderpidiga mis täpselt see on paraleelis mis : "Kui tahad draamat mine operass"
// V
// V
10 March 2018 01:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Solvavad sündikaadi sona suhuvõtmist ka, sellise teema ümer ei naljatata sellise teatriga, kus õpetus filmi lopuks on "Thats it?"
10 March 2018 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja skientologia puhul naitab t kui teaduslikulr soteerilsielt juamlat manipuleerida siis saad sa hoida heategude koos toos, neid jumalat välja pressides,
vahe on selels, mis siis saab kui need olema hakavad kes ei pressi
vahe on selels, mis siis saab kui need olema hakavad kes ei pressi
10 March 2018 01:03
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Ja sisi see niase ja tomi koku liituise osa on ilus ,reaalsusena võttes, mis mood iarmaatus üle võideti, isegi ku ita poelsk sama mligi üle võetud olnud ,loveytega
10 March 2018 01:02
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ja naine armastab neid kes on enese eest mitte süsteemi eest mis enenese vastu, enesepoolse süsteemi eestr, see teine asi
10 March 2018 01:02
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Naine aga armastuses saab üle hypata kergesti, kui kovemat matsot naitab,
et
mees kes kova on poel nii kova kui ei julge meest mehena vastu võtta
et
mees kes kova on poel nii kova kui ei julge meest mehena vastu võtta
10 March 2018 01:01
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naine kohe poolehoidu võtis,.. ja mees seda nähes ytles naisele, et to peaks mineama
10 March 2018 01:01
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et seleks jääda peale sellsied teememasi
10 March 2018 01:00
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lopokkuvottes, kui seda provida võtta ainult sellena mis ta on, ja siis seda imetleda, kui treenitud või üliinimesed nad olema pidid
10 March 2018 01:00
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ta proovib siis Tom Crusise samamodoi elust läbi minevat, kova mängivat, and i guess see kolbab ka
10 March 2018 01:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Filmides näiab ka erinevust,emlmises filmis mis moodi piinamine osa välja naerdi, et mis reaalsusest ta välja voolas, Reaalne, Royaalne, Inimtargad neeed nad, Keda need korjamid üle Üüd suur lotherdsmaiseks teha soovivad,
nad organiseerivad eri gruppides iimesesed kõik keda vaja sinnamaani , kombineerides asukoha olukorra ja olemasolevate seaduste ja
nad organiseerivad eri gruppides iimesesed kõik keda vaja sinnamaani , kombineerides asukoha olukorra ja olemasolevate seaduste ja
10 March 2018 00:59
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Kuid kena pyendi Nyansi panid sinna sise, et hoopis sellsielt ülevõetult ja mis siis , see realasus näitaks... mis mood iüks mees üksinda on tegija ilma ülejäänu maailma tegijatega,..... haa osade korguds saab ola siiss aiult kui talle tiivad, ta inimesed antakse
10 March 2018 00:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mida enamasti ei oel niipalju, kui täis pikkuses inteligent mitme kihiline film mis ennneseda tuli
10 March 2018 00:47
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#ArenguPoliitika
10 March 2018 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
8) Reaalsed läbirääkimised peaks sedasi käima riikidega,
Ka rahava oma arusamas, arengut nägevat
Ka rahava oma arusamas, arengut nägevat
10 March 2018 00:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja mu tingumisuteks oleks, et Koeral oleks tara piiramatule kätttesaamisele ja Täishabemele või
10 March 2018 00:41
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Vaatame, Et jah, Trump,
Motle kas mis turmpe ma pakkuda saan?
Motle kas mis turmpe ma pakkuda saan?
10 March 2018 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nüüd hakaks kurjakulutava agusega film issiia otsa,
see China movie Chaneli oma, vist,
Ah, Bad Robot / see vb isegi edgy olla
see China movie Chaneli oma, vist,
Ah, Bad Robot / see vb isegi edgy olla
10 March 2018 00:40
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meiegi ju tee ajastette asju
10 March 2018 00:39
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Näita mis austuse tasmeel, mis realasuse esindajad selle taga oli ja siegi viimase , noorte ärapanemsie sloogianiga kes erireallsuse kandjateg koostöööd tegid ,et ikakgi selle fili tase suuremalt edasi anda hiljem , uue generatsiooni poolt arusaaduna
10 March 2018 00:39
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ja siis naitab mis iganes reaalsustasemessseneid pannakse, ta suudab selle välja mängida, see filmi mote, oma isikussue hoiakuga, mitte ei pogene ta ega vms tavaamoodi
10 March 2018 00:38
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kuig mitmed on aksepteerinud
10 March 2018 00:37
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veider, et ükski riik pole ametlikult u abi küsinud veel
10 March 2018 00:37
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Loodan ,et see 230mb mis säästsin, v 350 ..
ja siis naitab et suurima oma võimutugevuse kandjate tipud saab tõega ikka võita ka millises iganes nende üleolekus
ja siis naitab et suurima oma võimutugevuse kandjate tipud saab tõega ikka võita ka millises iganes nende üleolekus
10 March 2018 00:36
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näitamaks, et nad ühe tasemega, arvavad, et alati võivad, aga enam mitte
10 March 2018 00:35
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siis nätab see naine, et ikak naise kaudu juudid ikka saavad nad ,
10 March 2018 00:35
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kuid loppu peab veell vaatama
10 March 2018 00:35
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ja siis naitab is moodi selle realasus inimesed sellsie olukora saavad ka dramaata likvideerida...
nii , et seda uudistes ei saa olema
nii , et seda uudistes ei saa olema
10 March 2018 00:34
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kuigienast salaja hoidma mpidid kuni
10 March 2018 00:34
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ja siis pärsi pätid vahest ei kannaata ja nad ründavad
10 March 2018 00:33
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kui kogu selle ebarealsust panna oigesse kontekstti
10 March 2018 00:33
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ja sisi naitab mis moodi lihtmaagiaga igastrealasust, riigi olukordi sabajuhtida kiirelt, reaaalis see peaagu toimiks
10 March 2018 00:33
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aga naise armastusele alluv... ... ta ssiiis
10 March 2018 00:32
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demokraatiale
10 March 2018 00:31
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sis naitab, kudias ta äri profetiks sab asuda neile kopitlaistidelel
10 March 2018 00:31
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jasiis naitab ta mis moodi päris iniene saab rääkkima , kuulama teisi
10 March 2018 00:31
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ja siis ta selle samaa habemea mis äravõeti , selle pärast et nii theti, ainult neid saadi hukutada ,rünnak versioonis reaalsuses
10 March 2018 00:31
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siis naitab mis modi suur voltse hoides saavad sattuda
10 March 2018 00:30
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siis nitab mis tasemel uudiste kanalid uudist edasi annavad
10 March 2018 00:30
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Sisi ta naitab mis moodi lolli möngides saab suurima kova taseme operatsioon itagavga olevaid saab ymber juhtida ja nad pole inimlikult edasi testimis voimega
10 March 2018 00:29
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siis nad näitavad filis , mis mood ikaks jumala tasemel mängivaid, nende elu saab tekkinud, kits,
// Siis järgmine ebasobiv koht kus naerda ei sobi,
on kui see tüüp, täis reaalsuses, kukub viineriga vastu klaasi selle Keskklassi korgklassi linna hotelliruumis oleav südamehaigusekandja rikas klass
// Siis järgmine ebasobiv koht kus naerda ei sobi,
on kui see tüüp, täis reaalsuses, kukub viineriga vastu klaasi selle Keskklassi korgklassi linna hotelliruumis oleav südamehaigusekandja rikas klass
10 March 2018 00:28
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// Donalt & Kim (Who paideway needs to chnage the haircut, please lets make that clear, that this is important matter)
10 March 2018 00:27
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siis ta näitab filmis,
mis moodi isei J. kan teisi sedasi palgata asj utegema ,
ja on selle iroonia asja taga,m et üks arvati, etsellline, ka vaatajate poolt
mis moodi isei J. kan teisi sedasi palgata asj utegema ,
ja on selle iroonia asja taga,m et üks arvati, etsellline, ka vaatajate poolt
10 March 2018 00:26
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kuni väga kaua aega peab motlema ja õppima et sellest välja mõlda, et uuesti ligi pääseda
10 March 2018 00:18
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nii raske veel kaua hoida mittem idagi, et oleks keeegi kellegagi koheneed maailma osad koku kleepida mida meelega ei keskendu ühegile et seda teha jäädes muuasjade arengus mahaja siis alati maas
10 March 2018 00:17
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Kuid kas see film sinna aitmaiseks tehtud või selle takistmaiseks, eks ise vaatame kuidas suunda , kasulikust õpime
10 March 2018 00:17
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slola tseen on Giantne
10 March 2018 00:16
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siis näitab jumala valitud rahva võimu ikka kohale ilmuda ja päästa ku itarvis
10 March 2018 00:15
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siis näita armastuse jõudu, kui lopuni oiges jäääda mis iganes arusaamades tunduks, TUNDUKS et nii oli või oleks
10 March 2018 00:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
koige tähtsama kysis kiiresti aguses ära, et siis jugeda edasi mina täeis oiges suuna,s pärast ksides voiks juba solvatras
10 March 2018 00:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vabandust palus karvade osas ka õigesti
10 March 2018 00:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis naise usaldus, et lasta ligi seda mis naturaalne, tegi ka ta vaboamaks vast
10 March 2018 00:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga siis tõestas, et ika päris robotid polnud ja armastasid ikkagi oma last,
isegi kui nad usaldasi tesieporfesoniaalset hinnangut
isegi kui nad usaldasi tesieporfesoniaalset hinnangut
10 March 2018 00:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
näitas kuidas öeldes, enda mingi suur tiitel, kohe usadati teda mis iganes puudustes, sellisels tasemel
10 March 2018 00:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid selles filmi maale aamiselks, vast nad pidid musta pooelga tegema lepingu, et need 40% saavad sisse oma skripti panna
10 March 2018 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid ned sünnituse, see ei ole normaalne isegi kui see nii haige, et paneb p... peab keskenduma inimesi ei tohi eri asjad naermaajada
10 March 2018 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siis ta aitba välja jtuua, kesmise pere tava mehe alaaergu taseme, tundetuses, näitamaks nende ikagi lopliku hiunge põhku
10 March 2018 00:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
selles filmis pole anultmees vaid ka nais hullus pantud maximumile tasakaalus skripti edasiandmkaks ilusti
10 March 2018 00:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi Genniuselikuset palju sina pandud ka
10 March 2018 00:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid ilmselgelt on filmis liialdused,
mille tagused reaalsused,et neid heaks moelda, oleks liialt suur töö selle kasulikuse osas, mida nad oleks saanud muud mood ilahendada, edasiandmiseks, suuremale grupile inimestele, selgemealt
mille tagused reaalsused,et neid heaks moelda, oleks liialt suur töö selle kasulikuse osas, mida nad oleks saanud muud mood ilahendada, edasiandmiseks, suuremale grupile inimestele, selgemealt
10 March 2018 00:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid see näitab ka mis juhtub kui muudest reaalsustest iniesed mujale pääsevad
10 March 2018 00:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
näitab kui ebatargad nad olal saavad mille heaks töödata oma siiruses , kui ona siirust ärakasutada lasevad
10 March 2018 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
suurviisnurk naise rinanl ,aj...janaine ei märka.. kui jube ja hulme see on is see or tähendab
10 March 2018 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid siis ehk liialt palju kihte vb tundub olema selliste laiade üherealasuskeskendumistele, osas, osati tundub niii
10 March 2018 00:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid ta saab näidata mis moodi , saab ingel level ikka inimkonnas opetust teha ja asjad ise tagasi tuua
10 March 2018 00:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis kutt nagu mängib kaasa, ,
et nagu peaks (siis mingi nõne osa ka sisse pandud, kuna see algmote mis nalja suunas see oli ,see oli mitte algses skriptis)
et nagu peaks (siis mingi nõne osa ka sisse pandud, kuna see algmote mis nalja suunas see oli ,see oli mitte algses skriptis)
10 March 2018 00:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid liberaal feminist, kuijutad ette
10 March 2018 00:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
iga postitusega mu Megabaidis megabaidid vähenevad...
kuid Tyri järg oaliselt on veel, Tyri failiserveris... ole toeks
kuid Tyri järg oaliselt on veel, Tyri failiserveris... ole toeks
9 March 2018 23:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mis neil kellel kodu pole,
Oota, ma tahaks selle paberi äramuuta mis ma kirjutasin, sellele paberile,
Mingi Töötukassa
//okey time slippers u can do it or it can be gifted or welll done my a Mendzh,
Rabbi Manis Friedman knows Rabbi if someone writes, Your Name Should cmome, and luckilly right now comes, with small effort
Oota, ma tahaks selle paberi äramuuta mis ma kirjutasin, sellele paberile,
Mingi Töötukassa
//okey time slippers u can do it or it can be gifted or welll done my a Mendzh,
Rabbi Manis Friedman knows Rabbi if someone writes, Your Name Should cmome, and luckilly right now comes, with small effort
9 March 2018 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey ja siis on olukorrad, et mittte oma internetti kaotada, ma kaotasin lootes heale, et ... säästan aega mida paustada, mis saaks netis olla, inimoigus ikka ju,,,,,,mi....
9 March 2018 23:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Iga mis iganes tehnikaala siis ja teadmise versioon /lihtseletus/ siis arusaadaks, meie Kusonkodu filmi näide mingi hetkest kust edasi sai päris heaks minna, selle mis sellel hetkel nenede ümber samal ajal toimus, teistes linnades
9 March 2018 23:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
õppige kultuuriliselt Maaliselt olma, Olema
9 March 2018 23:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui pole paradiiis (siis nii naguennist ütlesin)
9 March 2018 23:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
jägige algset keelt mitte suuubtiitreid
9 March 2018 23:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
erihea fil oiges Rohes
9 March 2018 23:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// T all, see kes tundus juba varem suuresti kasutatud olema, võrreldes sellegaa, mis ta oma lahendajaga kokku viis, reaaalsuse läemale tõmbas mis parem
9 March 2018 23:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ordered my firśt custom made silk suit from this business owner!
9 March 2018 18:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nuu..aga tegelikult on u..
9 March 2018 06:50
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
:D:D
9 March 2018 06:49
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
näääh lame :
9 March 2018 06:49
Margus Meigo replied to Alan Durier's comment.
Kus need mõtted on , ma teise ajudega ka uuesti vaataks
9 March 2018 03:32
Margus Meigo replied to Marge Karin's comment.
You know i am serious sister... rääkisin sellest plaanist ju ammu
9 March 2018 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siiani ükski pohajkorea doc mind rahuldanud pole, mitte, et nad selleks loodud oleks, docid, koreast,
kuid.. nagu kas see on tõesti parim millega nad hakkama said ?
Häbistavad ennast ja koread
kuid.. nagu kas see on tõesti parim millega nad hakkama said ?
Häbistavad ennast ja koread
9 March 2018 02:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kultuuri programmi ka
9 March 2018 02:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Truestory
9 March 2018 02:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
times when counting every megabyte
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214443787785232
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214443787785232
9 March 2018 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
hästi lihtne asi, copy paste ja download,
varuks, et kuni saan ise koppida, kuid igaksjuhuks,
et oleks rahulikum magada,
endal netimahtu poe..
varuks, et kuni saan ise koppida, kuid igaksjuhuks,
et oleks rahulikum magada,
endal netimahtu poe..
9 March 2018 02:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis
Huvitav kuidas see live siin nii vaikseks jäänud on ? KOlmnurgas
15:35
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10214438439651532/
Huvitav kuidas see live siin nii vaikseks jäänud on ? KOlmnurgas
15:35
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10214438439651532/
9 March 2018 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eelmise laivi rahulik , tava chati jätk . )
15: 46
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10214439995450426
15: 46
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10214439995450426
8 March 2018 20:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ütlesin, et kasutada fbdown. ehk moni sai kätte :p
Kui saite andke teada.
See on ka alles:
Nu on Teema :D 13:56
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10214438692177845/
Kui saite andke teada.
See on ka alles:
Nu on Teema :D 13:56
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10214438692177845/
8 March 2018 20:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Üks osa läks vahelt vist jah..
Head Naistepäeva 13:29
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10214438377009966/
Head Naistepäeva 13:29
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10214438377009966/
8 March 2018 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Uurrgh...
Kuidas on võimlaik, et Kaubamaja Lugu mängiti ERR otseeetris.. .
Kahjuks lugu ei saanud käima kuna nyyd mul Javascript sin ei laadinud live jaoks
Kuidas on võimlaik, et Kaubamaja Lugu mängiti ERR otseeetris.. .
Kahjuks lugu ei saanud käima kuna nyyd mul Javascript sin ei laadinud live jaoks
8 March 2018 19:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
nüüd mul see aparaat siin läks sedasi ,et pole kindel kas toimib või mitte,
8 March 2018 15:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Uurin Alan
8 March 2018 15:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
kuid mis Sa mõtete osas mõtlesid enne täpsemalt ?
Ega ma neid katseid eriti ei tee ila mpealetegematta
Ega ma neid katseid eriti ei tee ila mpealetegematta
8 March 2018 15:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Pole murri, küll ma ise ka arusaamisele jõuan, kuid seda muuseas.. enda rada tagantjärgi loen, loodates, et vajalik teiste poolt üleskorjatud
8 March 2018 15:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Ma mõtlen, et mõtled õunast :D
8 March 2018 15:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Hey a peple
8 March 2018 15:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Head Naistepäeva !
8 March 2018 15:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See piibli esimene pool programm esitlusest,
viimane osa on pool symboolne ja uurimisel veel, kuid asjakohane kujutiste enda mainstream aura osas
viimane osa on pool symboolne ja uurimisel veel, kuid asjakohane kujutiste enda mainstream aura osas
8 March 2018 14:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
millest koigest mobiilivennad ja neiud ilma jäävad
8 March 2018 05:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
8 March 2018 05:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
8 March 2018 05:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ainult Win Arvuti inimestele:
TarkuseTee_TuuleLee_v.1.2.exe
võtke siit: http://arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/
(ignoreerige siin vigu enne seda kui kontekst veel alles ...)
TarkuseTee_TuuleLee_v.1.2.exe
võtke siit: http://arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/
(ignoreerige siin vigu enne seda kui kontekst veel alles ...)
8 March 2018 05:37
Margus Meigo commented on Ellika Tamm's photo.
Armastus
8 March 2018 05:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Loogiline eks, et 8 aasta peale..
8 March 2018 05:14
Margus Meigo commented on Liivia Leier's post.
Kas reaalselt ka ühildumistarke veel
8 March 2018 04:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nu praegu võib päris rahul olla kui krooniga pildi seene-risti parandusi arvesse võtta
8 March 2018 04:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
8 March 2018 04:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
8 March 2018 04:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
näe nii lihtsast pakkumisest ka.. ei julgeta võtta veeel kinni, aga ple hull kyll just teeme siis sellise asja..
asjaegija portaal
asjaegija portaal
8 March 2018 04:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
oke, sain jällile, aju kaks esimest korda ei registreeriud,
et sellist "jubedust/ kordusena näidatakse, kuigi ta seda 2 korda ütelnud
et sellist "jubedust/ kordusena näidatakse, kuigi ta seda 2 korda ütelnud
8 March 2018 03:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
veidre,
mis nede jaosk tehtud kes googeldavad
mis nede jaosk tehtud kes googeldavad
8 March 2018 03:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hmm...mis see migist seriaalst v... ma kolm osa vaadanud algusest lopui ja neid osi eip ole küll meeles...
Psyhedeelia ligipääsuga algas see tegelikult ju
Psyhedeelia ligipääsuga algas see tegelikult ju
8 March 2018 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kommunistide tsermoonia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klGMA7PHWhw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klGMA7PHWhw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klGMA7PHWhw
8 March 2018 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuni esimene
Minut 10
https://youtu.be/vKukleqFQhA?t=37
Minut 10
https://youtu.be/vKukleqFQhA?t=37
https://youtu.be/vKukleqFQhA?t=37
8 March 2018 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
just avastasin
8 March 2018 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Many great limitations of FB allows great ideas to rise and be prepared
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214434347749237
that would be another dimension much larger then current
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214434347749237
that would be another dimension much larger then current
8 March 2018 02:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oih siia pidi see tulema
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214434405190673
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214434405190673
8 March 2018 02:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
liiga lihtne juba lopu peale hetkeks..peaks sama almaterialil paremate bassideg a elusama loma... mis omakorda korgemale suunaks
8 March 2018 02:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Return to inocence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC5ca6Hsb2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC5ca6Hsb2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC5ca6Hsb2Q
8 March 2018 02:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
8 March 2018 02:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
need reivid kus me teeme , saab olema megasuures kohas, megahea soundiga, ja nii, et ... see oleks täis sound
3 eri plaani selleks, 3 eri tasemel kolaritega,
nendest 2 s pole varem sellist kondserdit ma veel näinud, kui siis ainult filmis 1 osas
3 eri plaani selleks, 3 eri tasemel kolaritega,
nendest 2 s pole varem sellist kondserdit ma veel näinud, kui siis ainult filmis 1 osas
8 March 2018 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just to not go to there, to much:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65EfTFUFDwI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65EfTFUFDwI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65EfTFUFDwI
8 March 2018 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ma lihtsalt jälgin teemat praegu, ärge palun minult küsige kogu täis tähendust see pole muu kui migi ajatõstmise ja joosefiga, generalismusega
, viitavalt,
kuid mitte nendevahelise sideme,
vaid mõtlemiseks,
et kui on nii üks kui teine,
siis....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSYk6s46xkk
, viitavalt,
kuid mitte nendevahelise sideme,
vaid mõtlemiseks,
et kui on nii üks kui teine,
siis....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSYk6s46xkk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSYk6s46xkk
8 March 2018 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSYk6s46xkk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSYk6s46xkk
8 March 2018 02:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
8 March 2018 02:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
meie kandis suht ammu nii räägiti
kuid seda sõna tohib ainult õiges kohas heas südames kasutada
kuid seda sõna tohib ainult õiges kohas heas südames kasutada
8 March 2018 02:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
JEERUM,
RADAR see, hoopis , KANAL KAHEST!!!!
RADAR see, hoopis , KANAL KAHEST!!!!
8 March 2018 02:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ega see Björki mehe friik erafilmi kanal ple moe katsetuseks
8 March 2018 02:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nyyd nad roomavad roosas kitli saporandal, läikval koos koeraqga suures saalis
8 March 2018 02:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
vanasti olid habemed ülds ID kaardi abil olemas
8 March 2018 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/tyri/
8 March 2018 01:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui ei ole habet kas on sobilik riigi televisioonis daamiga rääkida?
8 March 2018 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
lennufirma asjad ammu juba nende kohaliku firmaga läbiräägitud,
olemas
olemas
8 March 2018 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
8 March 2018 01:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
me saame oma vaenlastele kõik suuriimad jõud kaela tõmmata ianuüksi selelga kaui end hävitada laseme kurjategijate kaardistamiseks
8 March 2018 00:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// lindi inport pilt
8 March 2018 00:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
.
8 March 2018 00:26
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov tänan küsimast aga kas Sa saad ise aru oma küsimuse praktilisusest, kas prooviksid seda uuesti küsida?
7 March 2018 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lehe nimeks võiks olla
Metsakaitse
http://www.eramets.ee/metsakaitse/
See võrk hakkab koguma lugusi ja teavituskmapaaniaid kogu üle maa, selleiste tegevustega tgeelevate inimeste andmeid ja firmade andmeid
Metsakaitse
http://www.eramets.ee/metsakaitse/
See võrk hakkab koguma lugusi ja teavituskmapaaniaid kogu üle maa, selleiste tegevustega tgeelevate inimeste andmeid ja firmade andmeid
http://www.eramets.ee/metsakaitse/
7 March 2018 22:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
alustuseks
7 March 2018 22:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siis kõikide nende suuslased ja tuttavad üles otsida ja neile ka võimaldada kirjutamine, et miks nad selliseid oam suguosas hoiavad ja mis nad selleks teevad, et nad nii kodumaa vaenulikult käituvad,
kõik need kes Eesti poolele astuvad, jagavad rohkem infot ja tausta nende pättide kohta ja need kes sellistega ühte hoiavadja ülbitsema, nipsakaks muutvad, need paneme ka Listi
kõik need kes Eesti poolele astuvad, jagavad rohkem infot ja tausta nende pättide kohta ja need kes sellistega ühte hoiavadja ülbitsema, nipsakaks muutvad, need paneme ka Listi
7 March 2018 22:45
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
Saan aidata püsti panna metsakaitse foorumi,
ja kogu selle registreermise enda peale võtta.
FB grupipõhine pole piisav, kuna siin tehnoloogia nii limteritud, kuid fb ja foorumid saab omavahel siduda ja midagi korralikku teha, kus asjalikke arutlusi saab pidada
Kuid kogu nende aadresside ja seotud inimeste info kogumisega peaksime agaralt tegelema,
ja siis need välismaa lehtedele koopiana postitame, kus inimandmete õiguste paljastamise vastased seadused ei kehti ja veel mitut kohta teada, kus valitsus oma asjugi pole aastaid maha ja kätte saanud
ja kogu selle registreermise enda peale võtta.
FB grupipõhine pole piisav, kuna siin tehnoloogia nii limteritud, kuid fb ja foorumid saab omavahel siduda ja midagi korralikku teha, kus asjalikke arutlusi saab pidada
Kuid kogu nende aadresside ja seotud inimeste info kogumisega peaksime agaralt tegelema,
ja siis need välismaa lehtedele koopiana postitame, kus inimandmete õiguste paljastamise vastased seadused ei kehti ja veel mitut kohta teada, kus valitsus oma asjugi pole aastaid maha ja kätte saanud
7 March 2018 22:44
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
Mina soovitaks mustalt Neti turult kogutud rahaga palgamõrvarid palgata, seda täiesti anonüümselt TOR Onion võrkudest teha saab ja paljud Eestlased ise oleks nõus.
Ning siis röövida paar põhitegelast ja nad kottpeas jalgupidi sinna puude otsa tõmmata, teiste samasuguste hoiatuseks.
Annaks koguse psyh. aineid ka sisse.
Pätte ja org pätte saab tellida ka linnast kui tarvis kuid saame ehk ise hakkama, eriti raske pole avastada kus inimesed elavad ja nende töökohad.
tegelikult palju muid plaane ka ja strateegiaid,
kõike ei hakka siin kah jagama kuid enamust just peaks jagama,
nagu selle araudtee peatamine, ei ole üldse nii keeruline väikese hulga organiseeritud rahaga mis aitab võrgustikku üleval hoida,
Ning siis röövida paar põhitegelast ja nad kottpeas jalgupidi sinna puude otsa tõmmata, teiste samasuguste hoiatuseks.
Annaks koguse psyh. aineid ka sisse.
Pätte ja org pätte saab tellida ka linnast kui tarvis kuid saame ehk ise hakkama, eriti raske pole avastada kus inimesed elavad ja nende töökohad.
tegelikult palju muid plaane ka ja strateegiaid,
kõike ei hakka siin kah jagama kuid enamust just peaks jagama,
nagu selle araudtee peatamine, ei ole üldse nii keeruline väikese hulga organiseeritud rahaga mis aitab võrgustikku üleval hoida,
7 March 2018 22:39
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Palmiste's comment.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
Uku Masing ka üks teine hea legend kunagi oli...: )7 March 2018 22:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kui selline asi veel korduvalt juhtub..
(voodi oli selline, mida kõigutades, koostöös, see liikus ringi..)
(voodi oli selline, mida kõigutades, koostöös, see liikus ringi..)
7 March 2018 22:15
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
avad jälle oma suu näitamaks mis peas toimub, selleasemel, et proovida uurida ja küsida, et milles teema,
kuid jah, nii on nagu ütlesin
kuid jah, nii on nagu ütlesin
7 March 2018 22:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
Neil reaalne grupp ka siin:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1889681597963676/Endoca Community Group
7 March 2018 21:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Või ju siis neil teine tark vaim sees, kui "aiu ei võimalda"
teadurite arvates,
kuid jah lugu selline näiteks: aastased kaksikud võtsid voodi, ja kahekesi, kõigutasid selle lutipudelina mis üleval lauapeal ja siis mööda seda kappi senikaua kõigutasid kuni pudel neil voodi kukkus ja selle kätte said.
explain that
teadurite arvates,
kuid jah lugu selline näiteks: aastased kaksikud võtsid voodi, ja kahekesi, kõigutasid selle lutipudelina mis üleval lauapeal ja siis mööda seda kappi senikaua kõigutasid kuni pudel neil voodi kukkus ja selle kätte said.
explain that
7 March 2018 20:47
Margus Meigo commented on Kersti Puusepp's post.
Group: KANEP
Kahju, et THC'd pole,7 March 2018 20:18
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Palmiste's comment.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
Maasing Sul ju korraliku ravitooteid ka kunagi oli ?7 March 2018 19:03
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Palmiste's comment.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
Suht kurb kui inimesed THC maha jätavad7 March 2018 19:03
Margus Meigo replied to Classic Nkosi's comment.
How have You been Nkosi?
7 March 2018 18:19
Margus Meigo replied to Classic Nkosi's comment.
It is about EU-Baltic railway they want to build that will split all Baltic states, and might eventually destroy our nations.
7 March 2018 18:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://tv.delfi.ee/live/tu-arendusprorektor-erik-puura-ulikool-ja-edutainment?id=68662531&com=1&no=0&s=1
algne komm liialt üle läks ja laiali valgus:
#erikpuura Erik Puura miskit asjalikku rääkis #terevisioon'is.
Kui selle Tartu VASTAST plaani planeerivad kurele on saadetud tuleks likvideerida ka Viljandi sigala hais (plaan on vähendada strateegiliselt Tartu välimust - ilmet ja imagot rahvusvaheliselt selliste projektidega,
sest kõik kõrgemad ja väärikamad, kes sellist haisu kasvõi korra tunnevad, neile jääb see mulje ... lisaks süstemaatiline loodushävitus ka... kus nad Üliarulagedalt mugavusest kasutavad tehnoloogiat kus uut vett peale võtavad, ja siis vana loodusesse lasevad rikutuna.. selleasemel, et seda vett ringkasutuses ise enda jaoks kasutada, ise enda jaoks puhastada ja aiult äraaurusanud lisavee, peaks võtma lisaks, ise enda jaoks peab neil oelma tehtud erinevad settekaevud ja rämpsu ümbetöötlused, baseinides mille põhi on batereid hävitav kuid mis põhjast saviga kindlustatud jms, )
Tuleb arusaada, et vaimses dimensioonis ja loogilises strateegias, plaanis... äride külge kleebivad end Asutused, toetuse ja nõuga,
käskides oma poolsetel mis iganes positsioonil olija rääkida nii kuidas Partei soovitab (keda otse, keda kaudselt mõjutus vaheinimese kaudu)
kleebivad külge igale ideele mis kaudselt liiga käest lipsanud piirdondadele aitaks korraldada midagi sellist, mis kogukonna väärtust vähendaks (siis väheneb postiivsus ja suureneb võimalus paha olukorda ärakasutada...ja langeb patriootlikus..)
kuid jah.. kui on midagi, mis kuidagigi Agentuure kes poel Eesti poolsed, aitab.... siis võid kindel olla, et need ametnikud ja agentuurid annavad tuge neile, kes partei mingisuguseidki edusamme kaudselt toetada või läheale tuua võib , ajutiselt või pikas plaanis.
// juba see, et ärina, nad ei ole suurfirmana isegi plaaninud, ei ühtegi muud asukohta Eestis.. see juba iseenesest peaks olema piisav.
Mitmed muud Eesti piiirkonnad selle kahju saaks kannatada paremini välja, sest see jääks enamuste iniemste ja väliskülalistele nähtamatuks, kuid meie Eliiidimat linna reostama hakata.. ja veel Emajõge... nu see on ikka tipp ülbus ja julgus seda pakkuda... ID kaardid peaks neilt äravõtma..
ja veesuüsteem ON võimalik teha reinglus, ja uued baseinid kaevata, ... mitte ei lasta reovett loodusesse, vaid selle nad ise peavad puhastama, ja siis uut saavad jaopärast, nii kuidas TEGELIKULT vaja.
algne komm liialt üle läks ja laiali valgus:
#erikpuura Erik Puura miskit asjalikku rääkis #terevisioon'is.
Kui selle Tartu VASTAST plaani planeerivad kurele on saadetud tuleks likvideerida ka Viljandi sigala hais (plaan on vähendada strateegiliselt Tartu välimust - ilmet ja imagot rahvusvaheliselt selliste projektidega,
sest kõik kõrgemad ja väärikamad, kes sellist haisu kasvõi korra tunnevad, neile jääb see mulje ... lisaks süstemaatiline loodushävitus ka... kus nad Üliarulagedalt mugavusest kasutavad tehnoloogiat kus uut vett peale võtavad, ja siis vana loodusesse lasevad rikutuna.. selleasemel, et seda vett ringkasutuses ise enda jaoks kasutada, ise enda jaoks puhastada ja aiult äraaurusanud lisavee, peaks võtma lisaks, ise enda jaoks peab neil oelma tehtud erinevad settekaevud ja rämpsu ümbetöötlused, baseinides mille põhi on batereid hävitav kuid mis põhjast saviga kindlustatud jms, )
Tuleb arusaada, et vaimses dimensioonis ja loogilises strateegias, plaanis... äride külge kleebivad end Asutused, toetuse ja nõuga,
käskides oma poolsetel mis iganes positsioonil olija rääkida nii kuidas Partei soovitab (keda otse, keda kaudselt mõjutus vaheinimese kaudu)
kleebivad külge igale ideele mis kaudselt liiga käest lipsanud piirdondadele aitaks korraldada midagi sellist, mis kogukonna väärtust vähendaks (siis väheneb postiivsus ja suureneb võimalus paha olukorda ärakasutada...ja langeb patriootlikus..)
kuid jah.. kui on midagi, mis kuidagigi Agentuure kes poel Eesti poolsed, aitab.... siis võid kindel olla, et need ametnikud ja agentuurid annavad tuge neile, kes partei mingisuguseidki edusamme kaudselt toetada või läheale tuua võib , ajutiselt või pikas plaanis.
// juba see, et ärina, nad ei ole suurfirmana isegi plaaninud, ei ühtegi muud asukohta Eestis.. see juba iseenesest peaks olema piisav.
Mitmed muud Eesti piiirkonnad selle kahju saaks kannatada paremini välja, sest see jääks enamuste iniemste ja väliskülalistele nähtamatuks, kuid meie Eliiidimat linna reostama hakata.. ja veel Emajõge... nu see on ikka tipp ülbus ja julgus seda pakkuda... ID kaardid peaks neilt äravõtma..
ja veesuüsteem ON võimalik teha reinglus, ja uued baseinid kaevata, ... mitte ei lasta reovett loodusesse, vaid selle nad ise peavad puhastama, ja siis uut saavad jaopärast, nii kuidas TEGELIKULT vaja.
http://tv.delfi.ee/live/tu-arendusprorektor-erik-puura-ulikool-ja-edutainment?id=68662531&com=1&no=0&s=1
7 March 2018 08:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oh, i meant the midnight sky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3k_QDnzHE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3k_QDnzHE
7 March 2018 07:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
My point was, that there .. as You see... the "One man rised up and people fallowed and then all collapsed.."
Is much more rare then we would like to believe, in epic scale.
As When You got coloration in these scales .. then for sure, a lot can be done.
But piece by piece, all, we keep everyone up.
Main trick for them is to keep people atheists,
so they can keep us imprisoned with magic,
as long most in poisoned can give their power away that it can be used, to imprison others,
Psychic laboratories is ordinary for few who still remembers, loom m83 video Wait..
to get what we are keeping in mind..
it is shown nice way in there..
USA have to be freed from Communism also, someday,
perhaps them go so arrogant and place Trump in there, and USA allowed, surrendered.. allowed Him.. for a reason, to finally find out who is who.. and get power, in cleaned format, back later...
Who knows, but for sure, for us, Trump seems as Deep level agent to be used in 2 sides, but originally, implemented, planned by Soviets
()
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mP9nOtu3IU
Is much more rare then we would like to believe, in epic scale.
As When You got coloration in these scales .. then for sure, a lot can be done.
But piece by piece, all, we keep everyone up.
Main trick for them is to keep people atheists,
so they can keep us imprisoned with magic,
as long most in poisoned can give their power away that it can be used, to imprison others,
Psychic laboratories is ordinary for few who still remembers, loom m83 video Wait..
to get what we are keeping in mind..
it is shown nice way in there..
USA have to be freed from Communism also, someday,
perhaps them go so arrogant and place Trump in there, and USA allowed, surrendered.. allowed Him.. for a reason, to finally find out who is who.. and get power, in cleaned format, back later...
Who knows, but for sure, for us, Trump seems as Deep level agent to be used in 2 sides, but originally, implemented, planned by Soviets
()
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mP9nOtu3IU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mP9nOtu3IU
7 March 2018 07:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jup, people meaningful to 83 i like.
innit strange thing the information... Walesa ..
"He co-founded and headed Solidarity (Solidarność), the Soviet bloc's first independent trade union, won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1983,
and served as President of Poland from 1990 to 1995.."
NO mention anything related to Central intelligence / USA but hes organization...:
> " CIA support for Solidarity included money, equipment and training, which was coordinated by Special Operations "
> "CIA officers were barred from meeting Solidarity leaders, and the CIA's contacts with Solidarnosc activists were weaker than those of the AFL-CIO, which raised $300,000 from its members, which were used to provide material and cash directly to Solidarity"
> After that: "Initial funds for covert actions by CIA were $2 million, but soon after authorization were increased and by 1985 CIA successfully infiltrated Poland"
> "The U.S. Congress authorized the National Endowment for Democracy to promote democracy, and the NED allocated $10 million to Solidarity"
(from link in last post... so yes... usa helped a lot.. as did our https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singing_Revolution
that show to rest of the world: With smart love you can Halt evil by no victims as long as we hold on..)
And to make matters even more strange:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-poland-politics-walesa/institute-says-polands-walesa-collaborated-with-communist-secret-police-idUSKBN15F16L
"Since the fall of Communism in Poland, there have been allegations that Wałęsa had collaborated with the earlier communist secret police. In 2017 a lengthy investigation by the Institute of National Remembrance concluded that a handwriting study proved the authenticity of documents that Wałęsa had agreed to collaborate with the communist secret police"
// Oh if you interested, then Soviet Secret police told to our army holy man and sword smith 30 years before collapse: "Yes we know our-self also, that Union Will collapse, no worry's (it is in the plan)"
The army holy man was also invited to Vatican secret archives, exclusive alien and ancient documents review as history professional on highest level, he told Vatican has all documented, from 6000+ years ago, when they made another versions of people here mixed with another species..
// Estonians was Before that... our time count is older then Jewish,
So when i asked, from one of the most mayor religious people, does that mean, Estonia is older then World, he told: yes
innit strange thing the information... Walesa ..
"He co-founded and headed Solidarity (Solidarność), the Soviet bloc's first independent trade union, won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1983,
and served as President of Poland from 1990 to 1995.."
NO mention anything related to Central intelligence / USA but hes organization...:
> " CIA support for Solidarity included money, equipment and training, which was coordinated by Special Operations "
> "CIA officers were barred from meeting Solidarity leaders, and the CIA's contacts with Solidarnosc activists were weaker than those of the AFL-CIO, which raised $300,000 from its members, which were used to provide material and cash directly to Solidarity"
> After that: "Initial funds for covert actions by CIA were $2 million, but soon after authorization were increased and by 1985 CIA successfully infiltrated Poland"
> "The U.S. Congress authorized the National Endowment for Democracy to promote democracy, and the NED allocated $10 million to Solidarity"
(from link in last post... so yes... usa helped a lot.. as did our https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singing_Revolution
that show to rest of the world: With smart love you can Halt evil by no victims as long as we hold on..)
And to make matters even more strange:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-poland-politics-walesa/institute-says-polands-walesa-collaborated-with-communist-secret-police-idUSKBN15F16L
"Since the fall of Communism in Poland, there have been allegations that Wałęsa had collaborated with the earlier communist secret police. In 2017 a lengthy investigation by the Institute of National Remembrance concluded that a handwriting study proved the authenticity of documents that Wałęsa had agreed to collaborate with the communist secret police"
// Oh if you interested, then Soviet Secret police told to our army holy man and sword smith 30 years before collapse: "Yes we know our-self also, that Union Will collapse, no worry's (it is in the plan)"
The army holy man was also invited to Vatican secret archives, exclusive alien and ancient documents review as history professional on highest level, he told Vatican has all documented, from 6000+ years ago, when they made another versions of people here mixed with another species..
// Estonians was Before that... our time count is older then Jewish,
So when i asked, from one of the most mayor religious people, does that mean, Estonia is older then World, he told: yes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singing_Revolution
7 March 2018 06:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
same dudes, with same ties
...newer expect land to be honest and free id ties run the place
or the ones who is away from nature
in their thoughts, talk and actions
OR lacking respect for Woman (and old and kids, man... we can take it, made to grow us, worthy for Her.)
Just when aliens see You to much of a Divergent, then Will be done hard effort to get you on dark path in head or actions .... and that nearly all resources would be eliminated that would allow normal life
it is normal of them to do,
and we should not be angry at invaders, as they got plenty more to offer, and our anger they will just use as resource. We just must stay alive, even just for reason to say new kids, in 50 years, what was and what is. Many of us work many ways ... few years as homeless You can handle, take it as education, just know... it is hard to step out from it after some moths...
...newer expect land to be honest and free id ties run the place
or the ones who is away from nature
in their thoughts, talk and actions
OR lacking respect for Woman (and old and kids, man... we can take it, made to grow us, worthy for Her.)
Just when aliens see You to much of a Divergent, then Will be done hard effort to get you on dark path in head or actions .... and that nearly all resources would be eliminated that would allow normal life
it is normal of them to do,
and we should not be angry at invaders, as they got plenty more to offer, and our anger they will just use as resource. We just must stay alive, even just for reason to say new kids, in 50 years, what was and what is. Many of us work many ways ... few years as homeless You can handle, take it as education, just know... it is hard to step out from it after some moths...
7 March 2018 06:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
For is long time ago clear, that Communism IS the Capitalism
Communism is controlling that well.
and if they would have been so "communism" then they would not have put price on EVERYTHING as they did..
And only the richest has been able to live in remote way as "communists"
Rest of us, are happy if we can live as Christians (all the basic benefit of communism is included already )
Communism is controlling that well.
and if they would have been so "communism" then they would not have put price on EVERYTHING as they did..
And only the richest has been able to live in remote way as "communists"
Rest of us, are happy if we can live as Christians (all the basic benefit of communism is included already )
7 March 2018 06:23
Margus Meigo commented on Benjamin Hall's live video.
Hey can You give me once more the name of the guy i Poland
They protested a lot:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poznań_1956_protests#Aftermath
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970_Polish_protests
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_(Polish_trade_union)#CIA_covert_support
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Łódź_strikes
"These events have been largely forgotten because a few weeks earlier, major protests and street fights had taken place in the cities of northern Poland. Nevertheless, the women of Łódź achieved what shipyard workers of the Baltic Sea coast failed to achieve - cancellation of the increase in food prices, which had been introduced by the government of Communist Poland in December 1970. Consequently, it was the only industrial action in pre-1980 Communist Poland that ended as a success."
They protested a lot:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poznań_1956_protests#Aftermath
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970_Polish_protests
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_(Polish_trade_union)#CIA_covert_support
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Łódź_strikes
"These events have been largely forgotten because a few weeks earlier, major protests and street fights had taken place in the cities of northern Poland. Nevertheless, the women of Łódź achieved what shipyard workers of the Baltic Sea coast failed to achieve - cancellation of the increase in food prices, which had been introduced by the government of Communist Poland in December 1970. Consequently, it was the only industrial action in pre-1980 Communist Poland that ended as a success."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poznań_1956_protests#Aftermath
7 March 2018 06:14
Margus Meigo commented on Benjamin Hall's live video.
i have been homeless state supporter and still i am, but i telling You, do what You can do but just think can You also do it when there is -15 outside...
There is war in all lands as long we got democracy
There is war in all lands as long we got democracy
7 March 2018 06:05
Margus Meigo commented on Nathan Wilson Cravens's post.
Perhaps You might also like:
https://www.facebook.com/HommikAnuga/videos/1600113110069128/
https://www.facebook.com/HommikAnuga/videos/1600113110069128/
7 March 2018 05:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Hobo Hilton
i also rember them on this time7 March 2018 05:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
7 March 2018 05:36
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce Alan Wilson's post.
Just one have to remind one self: This IS socialism,
Group rules and everyone else have to be slaves equally, unless you are needed and willing to sale Your soul
By doing something You would not, - if demanded / pay'd not
Group rules and everyone else have to be slaves equally, unless you are needed and willing to sale Your soul
By doing something You would not, - if demanded / pay'd not
7 March 2018 05:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Jah, see on vegan!
Video Audio osa, taimetoidu osas
Jätkub siin:
(video alguses, esimesed 10'knd minutit, teine pool videost on isikliku tööposti-toimetamise esimene laiv-näide. )
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214422696737969/7 March 2018 04:56
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
Bruce Alan Wilson interesting feed, true it is, it is as our brothers, Finnish
we keep the aria here(in mythology), what is called "Back of the God"
often phrase used by Ests is "Elame jumala seljataga " / "Living behind the God" heaven that can be kept only by love.
But all kind of forces have been visiting us and we try to get from them a best and clan it and giving back to the world in need, later on...just some visitors keep coming and try to make permanent seat without invite on our soil.
https://books.google.ee/books?id=kdjzDQAAQBAJ&lpg=PA21&ots=tN8YsTaqQe&dq=finnish%20archaeology%20estonia&hl=et&pg=PA21#v=onepage&q=finnish%20archaeology%20estonia
// i wish would have seen the feed screenshot
(from "something like Finnish note in feed), Do You have?
Know the Finnish? :)
//something important was more but.. will find later
we keep the aria here(in mythology), what is called "Back of the God"
often phrase used by Ests is "Elame jumala seljataga " / "Living behind the God" heaven that can be kept only by love.
But all kind of forces have been visiting us and we try to get from them a best and clan it and giving back to the world in need, later on...just some visitors keep coming and try to make permanent seat without invite on our soil.
https://books.google.ee/books?id=kdjzDQAAQBAJ&lpg=PA21&ots=tN8YsTaqQe&dq=finnish%20archaeology%20estonia&hl=et&pg=PA21#v=onepage&q=finnish%20archaeology%20estonia
// i wish would have seen the feed screenshot
(from "something like Finnish note in feed), Do You have?
Know the Finnish? :)
//something important was more but.. will find later
https://books.google.ee/books?id=kdjzDQAAQBAJ&lpg=PA21&ots=tN8YsTaqQe&dq=finnish%20archaeology%20estonia&hl=et&pg=PA21#v=onepage&q=finnish%20archaeology%20estonia
7 March 2018 03:45
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's live video.
:)
7 March 2018 03:42
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's live video.
Buvez de l'eau chaude de citron avec un peu de miel et de gingembre!
Buvez de l'eau chaude de citron avec un peu de miel et de gingembre!
du quotidien
et garde, reste saint
Je vous remercie
Beaux rêves Aimar ! :)
Buvez de l'eau chaude de citron avec un peu de miel et de gingembre!
du quotidien
et garde, reste saint
Je vous remercie
Beaux rêves Aimar ! :)
7 March 2018 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's live video.
Assurez-vous de vous reposer aussi!
Prendre bien soin!
Avec l'amour de l'Estonia
Prendre bien soin!
Avec l'amour de l'Estonia
7 March 2018 03:34
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's live video.
Thank You Aimar!
7 March 2018 03:31
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's live video.
:D
7 March 2018 03:28
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's live video.
Mercy!
7 March 2018 03:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
alguses
7 March 2018 03:27
Margus Meigo commented on Hommik Anuga's video.
Ma küll tõlkida ei saa, kuid siin ka miskit kommentaari:
https://www.facebook.com/firstsound893/videos/1475750479200056/?hc_ref=ARQeAMRhrtI5kRsl3MzAxQpYT83T_4m2PoARyTfi5qOXktG_alXlheCyOX6uAMgJOzg
https://www.facebook.com/firstsound893/videos/1475750479200056/?hc_ref=ARQeAMRhrtI5kRsl3MzAxQpYT83T_4m2PoARyTfi5qOXktG_alXlheCyOX6uAMgJOzg
7 March 2018 03:26
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's live video.
Cannabis? : P ::))
7 March 2018 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's live video.
Ys :)
7 March 2018 03:20
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's live video.
:)
7 March 2018 03:01
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's live video.
Well
7 March 2018 02:55
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's live video.
:)
7 March 2018 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's live video.
:) :)
7 March 2018 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to Rauno Randoja's comment.
Vau mida nad koos saaks teha :))
7 March 2018 02:32
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's live video.
In france:
Aimez-vous la chanson Estonie UE, La Forza: https://www.facebook.com/HommikAnuga/videos/1600113110069128/
Cela vous semble-t-il bon dans votre idée?
pour l'Union européenne - nouvelle direction de l'UE, pour répandre l'amour et le cœur fort sentiment d'énergie?
Vous pouvez dire en France, traduira plus tard :)
----
Here is Finnish girl also, You know her i think: https://youtu.be/zfPWU6CJ3vY
--
Also can You give me idea (later on), how You like our Estonia EU song, La Forza: https://www.facebook.com/HommikAnuga/videos/1600113110069128/
Does it sound good in Your idea, for European Union - EU new direction?
// I will try to understand later what You say! Someday,
Aimez-vous la chanson Estonie UE, La Forza: https://www.facebook.com/HommikAnuga/videos/1600113110069128/
Cela vous semble-t-il bon dans votre idée?
pour l'Union européenne - nouvelle direction de l'UE, pour répandre l'amour et le cœur fort sentiment d'énergie?
Vous pouvez dire en France, traduira plus tard :)
----
Here is Finnish girl also, You know her i think: https://youtu.be/zfPWU6CJ3vY
--
Also can You give me idea (later on), how You like our Estonia EU song, La Forza: https://www.facebook.com/HommikAnuga/videos/1600113110069128/
Does it sound good in Your idea, for European Union - EU new direction?
// I will try to understand later what You say! Someday,
7 March 2018 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's live video.
Yee!
7 March 2018 02:17
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's live video.
: )
7 March 2018 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's live video.
Nice : )
7 March 2018 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's live video.
is it magic?
7 March 2018 02:10
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
7 March 2018 01:57
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
Not just English, seems, that others language-cultures also, need various help and we only need minor upgrades in our own
7 March 2018 01:57
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
Once longtime ago in a Bub, one Dr. and NSA old-timer told me: "..this is a Code, the Estonian, and only a million of a planet knows it."
/(while we talked about few past issues, he assured me, "..You Do know the Ship called Estonia - She did not sink from a weather .." (like that)
so yes, this is language by what English should be aligned, is my recommendation
should open English more up as our language allows,
not just "I go to shop" but also "shop going i" / "shop i am going to"
(ma lähen poodi / poodi lähen ma (ja poodi lähed sa, poodi läheb kaks karu..) / "Poodi ma lähen" lähitulevikus kohe kindlasti...)
is all sounding normal in Estonian as we can place easily value, as in a poem outside of our-self.
As sometimes, the point is not " i " but the item what is talked about. So different importance's can pulled up, but unfortunately many have started to speak Estonian as English and translate Estonian by English language rules (changing word order's),
will be fixed this, with literal and impersonation translation versions,
// actually had one other example in mind, will post when will access on that
---
NSA - National Security Agency
/(while we talked about few past issues, he assured me, "..You Do know the Ship called Estonia - She did not sink from a weather .." (like that)
so yes, this is language by what English should be aligned, is my recommendation
should open English more up as our language allows,
not just "I go to shop" but also "shop going i" / "shop i am going to"
(ma lähen poodi / poodi lähen ma (ja poodi lähed sa, poodi läheb kaks karu..) / "Poodi ma lähen" lähitulevikus kohe kindlasti...)
is all sounding normal in Estonian as we can place easily value, as in a poem outside of our-self.
As sometimes, the point is not " i " but the item what is talked about. So different importance's can pulled up, but unfortunately many have started to speak Estonian as English and translate Estonian by English language rules (changing word order's),
will be fixed this, with literal and impersonation translation versions,
// actually had one other example in mind, will post when will access on that
---
NSA - National Security Agency
7 March 2018 01:55
Margus Meigo replied to Alan Durier's comment.
Kuid suund on Sul absoluutselt õige
7 March 2018 01:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
seda veel ei tea kui kauaks FB sinimustvalgeks jääb
7 March 2018 01:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ilumiNati-i
nati on kuid ise ei ole ka, ilus on aga kas ilumina...
(kui sina ise toimid ilumina, maailma ja ennast ilusamaks muutes, armastusena ja armastuses arusaades, et saad olla ilus ise enda ja teiste eest(i : ))
nati on kuid ise ei ole ka, ilus on aga kas ilumina...
(kui sina ise toimid ilumina, maailma ja ennast ilusamaks muutes, armastusena ja armastuses arusaades, et saad olla ilus ise enda ja teiste eest(i : ))
7 March 2018 01:07
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
(et mis sai vahele tulla heale, on veelgi parem/vajalikum ,seeg ahea)
7 March 2018 00:55
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
Thea Inno Kõik mis parem ja olulisem, on ainult hea :)
7 March 2018 00:55
Margus Meigo replied to Ralf Nõmmik's comment.
Kõige jamamaid asju mis Viljandis juhtus,
et kui üks naine ei lubanud öösel hängima tulla ja lubas muidu hullu panema hakata,
ja siis ei läinud ja siis ikka pani ja veel hullemini lõppude lõpuks,
ses osas ikka peab õppima, et väljapressimistele eip tohi alluda,
kuid noh, pahasti ka ei pea tundma, kui võimaluse andnud oled,
(uskumiseks/usaldamiseks)
eks me näe veel
ja tripib pikemalt
et kui üks naine ei lubanud öösel hängima tulla ja lubas muidu hullu panema hakata,
ja siis ei läinud ja siis ikka pani ja veel hullemini lõppude lõpuks,
ses osas ikka peab õppima, et väljapressimistele eip tohi alluda,
kuid noh, pahasti ka ei pea tundma, kui võimaluse andnud oled,
(uskumiseks/usaldamiseks)
eks me näe veel
ja tripib pikemalt
7 March 2018 00:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
()habeme osas
+ te isegi
https://mytinysecrets.com/the-magical-powers-of-your-hair/
naine
+ te isegi
https://mytinysecrets.com/the-magical-powers-of-your-hair/
naine
https://mytinysecrets.com/the-magical-powers-of-your-hair/
7 March 2018 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sain teada, et ikka näeb vist.. Hmm.. imelik kuu need trumbi video kommid laivist ja valgemaja omad, kus siis need näha..
7 March 2018 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
someday
7 March 2018 00:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Bruce Alan Wilson No worry's will do English one soon
7 March 2018 00:41
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
seda siin muuta prooovimegi, et saaks kõik oskama, arvutimaailma imitatsioonid on väga kurnavad mu vaimule,
ja meelele, teades, mis tegelikult võimalik on
ja meelele, teades, mis tegelikult võimalik on
7 March 2018 00:41
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
jup, nüüd Nägin kommentaari alles:)
7 March 2018 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mõte oli, et kas ta hääl tuntum kui enamus mida te asjast huvitatud kuulate ja kuulanud olete
7 March 2018 00:39
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
( :) )
6 March 2018 23:08
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
Nu miks nivähe suhtlesid partner?
6 March 2018 23:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// filmi kohta, et kutid lougavad autos nagu "eided"
6 March 2018 23:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid üligeniaalne, sest see suht loplik, mis üle aegade kestaks, sest imiteeriks ka tiselu vajalikust otseselt ning usuarusaame
6 March 2018 22:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid siis veel see võrk ka, et päris levelis inimesed , omavahel saavad uued ühendused luua omavahel,
sest
!. loovad endast tagide ja kirjeduste siltid ekogumikud mis interveebis üksteiseg aliituva dkellel sama asja
2. omakorda nendel siltidel kes fakede pooltimiteeriud , neile kogukonna fännide ja riigi ning inimese enda poolt saab saata brodcast signaale,
et kui keegi imiteerib ennast milllegiks kellegiks teiseks ,siis tema samu asju kasutades, lopp asukohal on märked küljes, ja võtsmärgete su suunas saatjatele, kes läbi ei aruta, pannakse veel topelt märge, et sellist kuritööd v jamaist teevad
see peaks aitama naturaalselt isiklutel ennast üleaja kinnitada, kaitsekihi luua ja suhtlust võimaldada igas levelis,
mõeldud kül erakultuur inimestele kuid sobib ka suurkuulsustega eraldi komuuni haarete lisa filtritega, mis sissetulevad koned ja sonumid Peale, ideloogiale vastavalt, liigutaks/vastaks
kuni sinnamaani,
mida enam teised vastata eip saa
//lihtne
sest
!. loovad endast tagide ja kirjeduste siltid ekogumikud mis interveebis üksteiseg aliituva dkellel sama asja
2. omakorda nendel siltidel kes fakede pooltimiteeriud , neile kogukonna fännide ja riigi ning inimese enda poolt saab saata brodcast signaale,
et kui keegi imiteerib ennast milllegiks kellegiks teiseks ,siis tema samu asju kasutades, lopp asukohal on märked küljes, ja võtsmärgete su suunas saatjatele, kes läbi ei aruta, pannakse veel topelt märge, et sellist kuritööd v jamaist teevad
see peaks aitama naturaalselt isiklutel ennast üleaja kinnitada, kaitsekihi luua ja suhtlust võimaldada igas levelis,
mõeldud kül erakultuur inimestele kuid sobib ka suurkuulsustega eraldi komuuni haarete lisa filtritega, mis sissetulevad koned ja sonumid Peale, ideloogiale vastavalt, liigutaks/vastaks
kuni sinnamaani,
mida enam teised vastata eip saa
//lihtne
6 March 2018 22:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid me om aiduvirmasi lampi ei müü kuhu pole vaja, ilma,et see eip tuleks sedasi nagu vaja
6 March 2018 22:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Filmis Guamlane ka,
ma taoliste vendadega ka ühel sarel aega veetnud, arvuteid aidanud, tantsu pannud governeri liikmetega :D
Just tuli meelde,
Pilt:
ma taoliste vendadega ka ühel sarel aega veetnud, arvuteid aidanud, tantsu pannud governeri liikmetega :D
Just tuli meelde,
Pilt:
6 March 2018 22:49
Margus Meigo replied to Alan Durier's comment.
pole laborit seente puhtaks hoidmisekski, rääkimata sahvrist ja keldrist
6 March 2018 22:45
Margus Meigo replied to Alan Durier's comment.
ei kasvata
Ma ei saa kanepitki kasvatada rääkimata toidust
Ma ei saa kanepitki kasvatada rääkimata toidust
6 March 2018 22:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja niii, et teisi üelliia dramatiseerima ei peaks, korvalisi,
kuigi,
ka ümbruskorral on oppust vaja arusaada mis ja kellega tegu ,
ja mis saatus neile järgitulla võib kui ebaausad
kuigi,
ka ümbruskorral on oppust vaja arusaada mis ja kellega tegu ,
ja mis saatus neile järgitulla võib kui ebaausad
6 March 2018 22:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid hullumeelne vend, ohtlikult sidab, oleks võinud kellegi esimeisese keeramise taga kuuritaga allaajada...
me ikka tasa targu
me ikka tasa targu
6 March 2018 22:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
et ei peaks nii minema
https://www.kava.ee/saade/310158037
https://www.kava.ee/saade/310158037
https://www.kava.ee/saade/310158037
6 March 2018 22:40
Margus Meigo replied to Ralf Nõmmik's comment.
Teema :p
jh
Täeiega teema
jh
Täeiega teema
6 March 2018 22:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Nu mis me video avapilt iei anna siin muuta veel v
Vb selle video esimesest kaadrist..hmm ikka seda lihtne oleks lasta muuta, mingi 10ne konna random uuendatavate piltide hulgast, mis "next" vajutades järgmised 10 +-mingi arvutagant mis erinevas pikkuses edasiastuvad "NExt" vajutades, poole sekundi piires kuni 10 sekundi kaupa (korraga 10 samplet)
Vb selle video esimesest kaadrist..hmm ikka seda lihtne oleks lasta muuta, mingi 10ne konna random uuendatavate piltide hulgast, mis "next" vajutades järgmised 10 +-mingi arvutagant mis erinevas pikkuses edasiastuvad "NExt" vajutades, poole sekundi piires kuni 10 sekundi kaupa (korraga 10 samplet)
6 March 2018 22:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(Pätieest põgenemise tseen)
6 March 2018 22:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Samal ajal midagi palju mõitlikumalt K12 s
Sellist huumorit pole ammu näinud,
mitte et hea oleks, aga sellist poel ammu näinud
Sellist huumorit pole ammu näinud,
mitte et hea oleks, aga sellist poel ammu näinud
6 March 2018 22:19
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
kuigi vanasti nii testiti jah, et kas mees päris habemega v mingi kahtlane, et Naise võimust öeldi, et "aja maha"
ja siis osad ajasitki, (kuid mitte ainult nõrkusest ja meeldimise soovist, vaid lausa sellest, et teadsid, et naise soovitused ju targad ja Eluvajalikud. Seega .. praeguses maailmas, kus hoopis muud viimast päästa tuleb ja julgustada.. enam sellist vanaaja värki pole viisakas vist öelda, praegu habemete julgustus )
ja siis osad ajasitki, (kuid mitte ainult nõrkusest ja meeldimise soovist, vaid lausa sellest, et teadsid, et naise soovitused ju targad ja Eluvajalikud. Seega .. praeguses maailmas, kus hoopis muud viimast päästa tuleb ja julgustada.. enam sellist vanaaja värki pole viisakas vist öelda, praegu habemete julgustus )
6 March 2018 22:14
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
Kuid jah, ära sellist roppu asja ütle naisena, see pole viisakas
6 March 2018 22:12
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
Türil
6 March 2018 22:12
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
Kullimaalt
6 March 2018 22:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Oo kommentaarid alles sin isegi, imelik ,teiste laivi komme küll eip näe
6 March 2018 22:10
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
Kuigi maseda materialiseerinud veel pole ,
ilma naiseta kõik nii habras tundub
ilma naiseta kõik nii habras tundub
6 March 2018 21:47
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
Võidule
6 March 2018 21:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
:)
6 March 2018 21:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 March 2018 21:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ma teatavasti Ossi poolt,
Nu neid väheseid keda tean, on suht Normalllid ja mingil pohjusel eesti KolikAgent MarjuLauristin , kelle isiksuse ambluaa on Nagu Orkester Grand Suurüritus läbi nii mitme ühiskonna teadmise ja arusaama kihi ta ennast kohal hoiab aga ausaaamata, et keelllegite mäng oligi neid suuri mängureid mängus hoida, see oli Nende mäng,
Nu neid väheseid keda tean, on suht Normalllid ja mingil pohjusel eesti KolikAgent MarjuLauristin , kelle isiksuse ambluaa on Nagu Orkester Grand Suurüritus läbi nii mitme ühiskonna teadmise ja arusaama kihi ta ennast kohal hoiab aga ausaaamata, et keelllegite mäng oligi neid suuri mängureid mängus hoida, see oli Nende mäng,
6 March 2018 21:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Vb pärast kindluse mõttes kommenteerida, jäävad asjad postituse komendaari endisesse,
sest kui siin pole :D
HAa hea asja just avastisn, et ma seda oleks sanud ju videosse öelda, siis poleks vaja olnud muretseda, et kommentaarid eip jäää alles :D
(lugejatele)
sest kui siin pole :D
HAa hea asja just avastisn, et ma seda oleks sanud ju videosse öelda, siis poleks vaja olnud muretseda, et kommentaarid eip jäää alles :D
(lugejatele)
6 March 2018 20:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Kuid kunagi kui elasin, siis oli jah, alkoholi periood,
()
Kuid, Viimasel ajal, ma ju puhta vaene olin Linnas,
Siis muutus juba võimatumaks
Kuigi selline veider võrk see sääl
üle aasta juba vast v kauem juba eemal, Kadakatee mändideall elasin viimane kord ja Toomase pool Lasnas ka suts,
kaks head südamet kes andsid katust
()
Kuid, Viimasel ajal, ma ju puhta vaene olin Linnas,
Siis muutus juba võimatumaks
Kuigi selline veider võrk see sääl
üle aasta juba vast v kauem juba eemal, Kadakatee mändideall elasin viimane kord ja Toomase pool Lasnas ka suts,
kaks head südamet kes andsid katust
6 March 2018 20:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Tallinnas ma pole päriselt elanud kungi
6 March 2018 20:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Või koolis praegu ka uuemaid teadlasi ja inimesi mainitakse varakult keda lugeda, praegustest?
6 March 2018 20:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Mis see mees, kas te teate, lastakse palju telekas või meedias?
6 March 2018 20:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Hmm arvasin alguses, et panin videosse,
Türi
Türi
6 March 2018 20:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
See osa teadlastele pandud oli, et nende oma keeles ka üks ühendusv tarkus oleks
6 March 2018 20:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
vaatsin alguses Tina,
me keeles ikka Suure i ja L i väikse, vahe erinevamaks tegema
me keeles ikka Suure i ja L i väikse, vahe erinevamaks tegema
6 March 2018 20:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Karmid naljad enidselt Sul Biret
6 March 2018 20:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
WellCome to Finally To Esiisade ja Emade juurde IluMinaTi
6 March 2018 20:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Postitage se link mu Selle Vegan Jahh grupi kommentaaridesse ku iaega
6 March 2018 20:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
see ka asjakohane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-sSIE9PMAY
Ku ta säääl keskel lehtedesöömisest räägib :D
Ku ta säääl keskel lehtedesöömisest räägib :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-sSIE9PMAY
6 March 2018 20:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
THea : M : )
6 March 2018 20:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Durier St.
Kas siin see imeli kasi kus kommentaarid endale alles eip jää pärast?
Kas siin see imeli kasi kus kommentaarid endale alles eip jää pärast?
6 March 2018 20:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Südames saan ainult kasatada praegu @ Bruce Alan
6 March 2018 20:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Jah, see on vegan!
Muide see väga huvitav, odav tee oma väärtuselt6 March 2018 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Jah, see on vegan!
(Türi sotsiaalkodus)6 March 2018 20:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Jah, see on vegan!
(kui vaid rikkusi oleks... sööks vaid pähkleid, marju puuvilju ja...rohtu)6 March 2018 20:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui tulemas on õhulaevad ju jeerum küll, teeme ise Estoniainairi jälgedes nagu ammu plaanis oli, michelinist paremad asjad
6 March 2018 19:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et kellegi paarkorda kasutmaise pärast, hakata...
Nu milleks millleks..
Nu milleks millleks..
6 March 2018 19:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eriti karm oleks nende iniemste suhtes, kes mõtlevad "nu mis sest et pilet üle 100 euro, nu moned korrad elus ikka oleks vahest tore suviti sõita sellega... ja kahelpool raudteed olevaid betoonseinu vahtida..
6 March 2018 19:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hmm viimases lauses polnud enam kindel kas kirjutada, Isa, Jumal või Ema
osati kõik ka sama
osati kõik ka sama
6 March 2018 19:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Carnivore, herbivore and omnivore are technical terms drawn from biology, not used in ordinary discourse except for humorous effect.
The most usual colloquial term appears to be meat-eater; it is employed by vegetarians and meat-eaters alike with neither less or more opprobrium than is inherent in the speaker's personal stance. Here are some sample titles from Google:
Vegan vs. Meat Eater - Steven Rinella - YouTube
Healthy Vegetarian Recipes That Satisfy Even Die-Hard Meat Eaters ...
Veganism for the Meat Eater
Going From Vegetarian to Meat-Eating
Note, however, that being a meat-eater does not imply that one "hates salad" or is in any way opposed to the consumption of vegetables. It signifies one who eats meat, not one who eats meat exclusively. I don't think there is a term for that, probably because there must be very few people who consume only animal products.
The most usual colloquial term appears to be meat-eater; it is employed by vegetarians and meat-eaters alike with neither less or more opprobrium than is inherent in the speaker's personal stance. Here are some sample titles from Google:
Vegan vs. Meat Eater - Steven Rinella - YouTube
Healthy Vegetarian Recipes That Satisfy Even Die-Hard Meat Eaters ...
Veganism for the Meat Eater
Going From Vegetarian to Meat-Eating
Note, however, that being a meat-eater does not imply that one "hates salad" or is in any way opposed to the consumption of vegetables. It signifies one who eats meat, not one who eats meat exclusively. I don't think there is a term for that, probably because there must be very few people who consume only animal products.
6 March 2018 05:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
plural
6 March 2018 05:58
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
( / I almost liked the Nerds with Vaginas
page,
then noticed the vaginas part
page,
then noticed the vaginas part
6 March 2018 05:49
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
oh need loomad, nad nii kannatlikud meiega
6 March 2018 05:48
Margus Meigo commented on Đỗ Đạt's photo.
Looks as Good human
6 March 2018 04:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
enne seda kui võidule jõuab
6 March 2018 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(loodan, et need selllised teemad pole, mis veganid eluksajaks vangi panevad)
6 March 2018 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aga USA inimesed on NII usklikud, et võtavad sellist jhtumist suht normaalse, sooja kõhuga,
Jumalateema nii elementaarne,
ja siis sellisel tasemel usaldustase kus arvati olema head, paljastus kellele to poliitik töötas,
Jumalateema nii elementaarne,
ja siis sellisel tasemel usaldustase kus arvati olema head, paljastus kellele to poliitik töötas,
6 March 2018 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// ja kui vaja saaks sääl animatsioonis hingedle sedasi korraldada nagu sääl filmis
6 March 2018 02:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tüüpiline lugu, "olin liiikluses, ja mõtlesin kus ta on, ja siis vaatan, purejtab tekkkinud jõega paralelltänavas suure noa laevaga" :D "
6 March 2018 02:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//meelega näitab nüance mida võidakse läbi elama panema
//
//
6 March 2018 02:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga nad filmi skriptis meelega talle filmis ,hästi vätsolt tunduva habeme vms
6 March 2018 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mees unistavalt: "Tunnen et... midagi erilsit juhtub"
Naine "jah, pisargaas ja lammutuskuul"
// muidugi veel viga filmis ,et mees ei pannud tähele, et looma eemaldamiseks iniemsi ei toodud jms ametknike ja mis oleks pidnaud juhtuma... oleks pidanud ar usaaama, et see animatsioon
//naturaalsuses on naturaalsed reeglid mitte nii suuures ebareaalsuses
//ja kuigi asi ei pruugiolla nii suuresti pahasti, ... kui tundus võimatu, et saaks juhtuda,
siis
// film opetab veel, et naisele järgimist,
// opetab ka, et need asjad saavad ikka juhtuda
//
// Arch ingels, on tasemetel nagu need kaks Inglit...
// Comedi Centray dictor ja see teine mees,
//uudiste ankur, nemad siin elus päriselt ka sellist suurt tööd teeb ja ühiskonna kihte silub, et asjad targaks naljaks ajaliselt teha ja piisavatlt tasemel kuid tagasihoidlikud
// Vihje oli kui alguses nad pidid jooksma ja need kes muidu mängisid iroonia isiksust, koheselt olid õigel ajal nõus uskuma.
Naine "jah, pisargaas ja lammutuskuul"
// muidugi veel viga filmis ,et mees ei pannud tähele, et looma eemaldamiseks iniemsi ei toodud jms ametknike ja mis oleks pidnaud juhtuma... oleks pidanud ar usaaama, et see animatsioon
//naturaalsuses on naturaalsed reeglid mitte nii suuures ebareaalsuses
//ja kuigi asi ei pruugiolla nii suuresti pahasti, ... kui tundus võimatu, et saaks juhtuda,
siis
// film opetab veel, et naisele järgimist,
// opetab ka, et need asjad saavad ikka juhtuda
//
// Arch ingels, on tasemetel nagu need kaks Inglit...
// Comedi Centray dictor ja see teine mees,
//uudiste ankur, nemad siin elus päriselt ka sellist suurt tööd teeb ja ühiskonna kihte silub, et asjad targaks naljaks ajaliselt teha ja piisavatlt tasemel kuid tagasihoidlikud
// Vihje oli kui alguses nad pidid jooksma ja need kes muidu mängisid iroonia isiksust, koheselt olid õigel ajal nõus uskuma.
6 March 2018 02:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eks see muidugi omapärane, et mngi sellne vituaal treening tal tetud, et teisi inimesi ei lastud appi, seda tegema , andes vahendite osa.. sellises koguses.. et pisaks selleks, et saada mida vaja järgmiseks asjaks mis sihile viib
6 March 2018 01:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//filmis on lihtsalt näidatud see, kuidas seda korraldada saaks
//aga naine on sellne, ...tark loom, et kohe kui sellisel tasemel tõestust juba näeb, siis jätkab kohe, toetusega // (palunseda anult ilusasti lugeda)
//
//aga naine on sellne, ...tark loom, et kohe kui sellisel tasemel tõestust juba näeb, siis jätkab kohe, toetusega // (palunseda anult ilusasti lugeda)
//
6 March 2018 01:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//järgmine viga oli, et vanana nagu pool suts loigatud have tundus, vms, et naturaalselt selline kuju poleks selles olukorras, habmel
6 March 2018 01:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// filmis aga hea,
6 March 2018 01:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
teisi tööriideid polegi vms
6 March 2018 01:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Riiete osas on veel see, et kerge möödapanek, sest see igapäeva rõivastuseks ei sobiks ju... miks ta selle valis
6 March 2018 01:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ilma tõsiselt mõtlemata, arvestamata, elementaarselt
// Kuid --- filmi lopu poole poole.. see nyansi muutus... et
//
Naise maailmas olles, kui ta hüppas tase ülesse, siis nad eeldasid, et muu peaks ka kaasas oelma sellel tasemel sõnu ja asju mainides,
kuid
(ühesonaga tavamaisest arusaades ja kaasa töööle hakates ka reaalselt, saite )
// Kuid --- filmi lopu poole poole.. see nyansi muutus... et
//
Naise maailmas olles, kui ta hüppas tase ülesse, siis nad eeldasid, et muu peaks ka kaasas oelma sellel tasemel sõnu ja asju mainides,
kuid
(ühesonaga tavamaisest arusaades ja kaasa töööle hakates ka reaalselt, saite )
6 March 2018 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Naine sai aru, et ta tegi ka vea, öeldes,
" Jah .... "
Oleks pidnaud teise tarkusega selle olukorrra ... Kohtu pool oli Jumala poolt filmis ka mängitud, sest see "hea"pool, olukorras oli valesti ja vähe enesekindlalt
" Jah .... "
Oleks pidnaud teise tarkusega selle olukorrra ... Kohtu pool oli Jumala poolt filmis ka mängitud, sest see "hea"pool, olukorras oli valesti ja vähe enesekindlalt
6 March 2018 01:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Naised on alati pea kõikides neis filmidesalati lopuni targeimad vastavas olukorras mis neile ette mängitakse
6 March 2018 01:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Filmis riiete trikk,
// Muide selles olukorras ta oelks pidanud juba kaasa mängima ja rahulikult võtma.
ja õnneks võttiski.
// Muide selles olukorras ta oelks pidanud juba kaasa mängima ja rahulikult võtma.
ja õnneks võttiski.
6 March 2018 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kujuta ette, filmis näitlejal võttis niiakua aega, et naisele Jumalast rääkida,
Tegelikult aga seda oleks pidanud
...esimesena.
Kuid see naise tseen, reageering sellele , ... oli pigem
naise poolt oige, minig mees oleks vaidelma daidlema ja teemad teema üle ilkuma hakanud arusaamatus kui suurt viga tehes...
kuid jah, ma nagu kuohe algusest saati, proovin selgitada, et seda teeme, ilma selle "muutuseta"
vaid lihtsas arusaamas kuidas mis suunas mida plaanime, et läheks
Tegelikult aga seda oleks pidanud
...esimesena.
Kuid see naise tseen, reageering sellele , ... oli pigem
naise poolt oige, minig mees oleks vaidelma daidlema ja teemad teema üle ilkuma hakanud arusaamatus kui suurt viga tehes...
kuid jah, ma nagu kuohe algusest saati, proovin selgitada, et seda teeme, ilma selle "muutuseta"
vaid lihtsas arusaamas kuidas mis suunas mida plaanime, et läheks
6 March 2018 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see mees kes hakkas paati ehtiama, endiselt ei rääkinud lastele jumalast jms
kuigi seline ais käsil tal.. mis veidrus see on (päris elus ku iharuldane see oleks, kui inimene nii käituks?)
kuigi seline ais käsil tal.. mis veidrus see on (päris elus ku iharuldane see oleks, kui inimene nii käituks?)
6 March 2018 01:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
on ka kanep
6 March 2018 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey viimane 24 järjest üleval olla oli tu much, nüüd pärast peab puhkama,
aga jah, mentaalne stimulant on ka,
aga jah, mentaalne stimulant on ka,
6 March 2018 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Habemeajamise osa nu mis haigus tal seda hae jaada on.. kas ...
.... njeah...
habeme kasvatamise osa on tähtis, mida inimesed läbi elama peavad
.... njeah...
habeme kasvatamise osa on tähtis, mida inimesed läbi elama peavad
6 March 2018 01:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vot ma pole kindel ,aga selles filmis,
See meethod kidas ta naitlejaga suhtleb... kas on liialt järsk, v peab olema nii
See meethod kidas ta naitlejaga suhtleb... kas on liialt järsk, v peab olema nii
6 March 2018 01:11
Margus Meigo replied to Raiko Aeaero's comment.
see ikka sugulusrahva asi, peab ise olema soomeugrilane, et arusaada, meil ühine püüe
6 March 2018 00:23
Margus Meigo replied to Raiko Aeaero's comment.
Mis moodi me oma lastelt varastada saame?
6 March 2018 00:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hahaha j afilmi lopus oli meelega üks lask ja see oli filmiajaloo üks väiksemaid, pehmemaid, hääletumaid laske, minikuuliga mis ohvrile endalegi arusaaamtu oli,
päris hea, süseed polnud suurt olla aga mida iganes nad tegid, oli seda väärt
päris hea, süseed polnud suurt olla aga mida iganes nad tegid, oli seda väärt
6 March 2018 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.kava.ee/saade/310158011
https://www.kava.ee/saade/310158011
6 March 2018 00:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mina muidugi enamuses olen absoluutne miinimum
5 March 2018 21:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
uskumatud aga nagu naiivsed ärakasutatavad kasulikudidioodid seda kuulsat vene terminit kasutades.
Sest kes väga proovib, ja palju ei võta, saab ennast ka uskumatuna hoida. Sest siis kogiub piisavalt üleolevust ja julgust kuid ei laeta sisse vastutust ja alandust, (ei võeta piisav kogus, et end alandada... mure ka kanepilistega, kes pole võtnud tugevaid aineid, nad kanepiga vahest oma tarkuses üleolevaks jäävad, ... õige kanepeline aga kiiresti maandub, isegi kui juhtub, sest teab lõpluku tõde selles osas, et kuidas on sobilik, me elutööd esitada Jumalale )
Sest kes väga proovib, ja palju ei võta, saab ennast ka uskumatuna hoida. Sest siis kogiub piisavalt üleolevust ja julgust kuid ei laeta sisse vastutust ja alandust, (ei võeta piisav kogus, et end alandada... mure ka kanepilistega, kes pole võtnud tugevaid aineid, nad kanepiga vahest oma tarkuses üleolevaks jäävad, ... õige kanepeline aga kiiresti maandub, isegi kui juhtub, sest teab lõpluku tõde selles osas, et kuidas on sobilik, me elutööd esitada Jumalale )
5 March 2018 21:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
päris usklikud oleks nagu nijad nendes reaalsustes, ja ülivajalikud,
5 March 2018 21:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siinkohal osalt tundubki mulle, et mida targemad inimesed nende asjadega tagelevad, akadeemilises mõttes, seda suuremalt nad potensiaalselt aru saavad... kui nad aga ateistiku haridusega ainult... siis võib päris valus murrak ajus ola, sest kogu selle lihtssutatud maine illusioon... irvitatakse väga sedasi, et pole võimalik vaielda, ja ega nad sääl vaidlemist kannata ka eriti...
Usklikutel inimestel muidugi need asjad midagi eriuskumatut pole,sest me ammu teame ettekujutada, ilmaruumi suurust ja mitmekesisust,
ja et on palju mis on nähtamatu ning suured olevused kelle väikesed osaksed on moned nupukesed siin ja sääl,
ja sedagi saadakse aru, et ega need pahakesed, ei ole lihtsalt mingi hõljuv vaimukeste kogumik kuskil keldri nurgataga,
vaid tegu suurte tipptehnoloogiliste , ulmetehnoloogiliste laborite ja impeeriumite, tehaste, tööstustega lisaks kõigele selle füüsilisele mis siin ilmas juba näha.
----
iroonilne aga asjajuures on, et vahest just need kellel kõigerohkem kokkupuudet vaja node seentega, et nad kellel see kõige turvalisem ja juba südames se osa olemas, et MIKS ja mida otsima minnakse, et kuidas Jumalat teenida paremini, mis tarkusi ja arusaamu maarahvastele tuua mida tulnuk olendid siin suurte süsteemidega ja illusiooni kunstidega me eest peidavad...
Mu usk on alati peale iga kogemust suurenenud ja ka vahepeal ununenud tuueakse uuesti meelde,....sest seda infot ikka.. siin meil ajuküljest likvideeritakse..
Usklikutel inimestel muidugi need asjad midagi eriuskumatut pole,sest me ammu teame ettekujutada, ilmaruumi suurust ja mitmekesisust,
ja et on palju mis on nähtamatu ning suured olevused kelle väikesed osaksed on moned nupukesed siin ja sääl,
ja sedagi saadakse aru, et ega need pahakesed, ei ole lihtsalt mingi hõljuv vaimukeste kogumik kuskil keldri nurgataga,
vaid tegu suurte tipptehnoloogiliste , ulmetehnoloogiliste laborite ja impeeriumite, tehaste, tööstustega lisaks kõigele selle füüsilisele mis siin ilmas juba näha.
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iroonilne aga asjajuures on, et vahest just need kellel kõigerohkem kokkupuudet vaja node seentega, et nad kellel see kõige turvalisem ja juba südames se osa olemas, et MIKS ja mida otsima minnakse, et kuidas Jumalat teenida paremini, mis tarkusi ja arusaamu maarahvastele tuua mida tulnuk olendid siin suurte süsteemidega ja illusiooni kunstidega me eest peidavad...
Mu usk on alati peale iga kogemust suurenenud ja ka vahepeal ununenud tuueakse uuesti meelde,....sest seda infot ikka.. siin meil ajuküljest likvideeritakse..
5 March 2018 21:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid teadmiste arusaamade hulk, mida siin ilmas rakendada... seda raske ilma aineteta praegu selgitada,
maiselt näib suht võimatu olema selgitada,
kui miski muu hariduse taust olemas oleks, siis ehk küll. Enamusel tihti on aga haridus ja teooria aga puuduvad kogemused ja praktika oma silmaga näha ja oma vaimuga tunda, vaimusilmaga näha ja suhelda nende tegelastega.
Päris kõrgtehnoloogilised laborid ja tööstuslikud suurruumid on neil, täitsa eri labordi nii taimede kui mutukate hingeelu torkimiseks mõnes tehases...
ehk kui need ajad tulevad, et saan päriselt jumalateenimisega tegelema hakata nii nagu hing kutsub, nii, et rahul oleksin, siis peale mõndasada ilmamaa-aegruumi reisi saab selgemad vastused ehk.
vahest üks reis paraleelajas ise saab juba kesta aastakümneid, või Suuri tunde minuti sees. Kus iga hetk on rohkem ja jahmatavam kui enamus filmid mida kokku näinud, eriti, sest, nii realsed...
Kuid jah, tava normaalkogustes tuleb aga lihtsalt siinmaailma vajadused mis inimeste teadmistesse tunnetega tuuakse.
Kuid jah, vahest päris valgusaasta jääb nende inimeste vahele kes keelduvad uskumast ja nendevahel kes mitte ainult teab vaid on ka kogenud ja näinud,
maiselt näib suht võimatu olema selgitada,
kui miski muu hariduse taust olemas oleks, siis ehk küll. Enamusel tihti on aga haridus ja teooria aga puuduvad kogemused ja praktika oma silmaga näha ja oma vaimuga tunda, vaimusilmaga näha ja suhelda nende tegelastega.
Päris kõrgtehnoloogilised laborid ja tööstuslikud suurruumid on neil, täitsa eri labordi nii taimede kui mutukate hingeelu torkimiseks mõnes tehases...
ehk kui need ajad tulevad, et saan päriselt jumalateenimisega tegelema hakata nii nagu hing kutsub, nii, et rahul oleksin, siis peale mõndasada ilmamaa-aegruumi reisi saab selgemad vastused ehk.
vahest üks reis paraleelajas ise saab juba kesta aastakümneid, või Suuri tunde minuti sees. Kus iga hetk on rohkem ja jahmatavam kui enamus filmid mida kokku näinud, eriti, sest, nii realsed...
Kuid jah, tava normaalkogustes tuleb aga lihtsalt siinmaailma vajadused mis inimeste teadmistesse tunnetega tuuakse.
Kuid jah, vahest päris valgusaasta jääb nende inimeste vahele kes keelduvad uskumast ja nendevahel kes mitte ainult teab vaid on ka kogenud ja näinud,
5 March 2018 20:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid enamusel inimestel meeldib OMA maitsemeeli ja kõhtu täita
(kuid seda, mis Jumalal & Loodusel vaja... mis inimeselt austust ja alandust nõuab, seda ei jugeta ega taheta... lapsed lausa siis siin planeedil isa eest peidus olemiseks lausa teistel ka keelasid, sest lootsid, et kui keegi ei näe ega ei kuule... siis ajaga nad saavad ise otsustama hata kuidas on ja kuidas teenida... ja nemad vahendavad.... kuid alati on ülemaailma neid kes Jumalasõna ja vajadusi, otse loodusest, oma tarkusest olenemata, saab osaks nägemustele ja arusaamadele, ühiskonna saladused saavad selgeks ja lahendused lihtsalt arusaadavaks..)
(kuid seda, mis Jumalal & Loodusel vaja... mis inimeselt austust ja alandust nõuab, seda ei jugeta ega taheta... lapsed lausa siis siin planeedil isa eest peidus olemiseks lausa teistel ka keelasid, sest lootsid, et kui keegi ei näe ega ei kuule... siis ajaga nad saavad ise otsustama hata kuidas on ja kuidas teenida... ja nemad vahendavad.... kuid alati on ülemaailma neid kes Jumalasõna ja vajadusi, otse loodusest, oma tarkusest olenemata, saab osaks nägemustele ja arusaamadele, ühiskonna saladused saavad selgeks ja lahendused lihtsalt arusaadavaks..)
5 March 2018 20:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sõna tööriista asemel saab kasutada ka sõna loodustehnoloogia/jumalatehnoloogia
5 March 2018 20:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Toomas Sirge nu eks lehtrikutel samamoodi, valged on ohtlikult mittesöödavad...
kuid ega need lehtrikud Jumala häält ja soove või suuremas koguses Jumalamaailmu (nii halbu kui häid) eriti selemaks ei õpeta?
Kuigi kärbseseeni toiduna ka kasutada saab, kuna nad ühed maailma maitsvamad seened, kus praadides eraldub uskumault hea mekk, siis ikka meie suguste hulgas need asjad on õpitööriistad ja enesealandus tööriistad
kuid ega need lehtrikud Jumala häält ja soove või suuremas koguses Jumalamaailmu (nii halbu kui häid) eriti selemaks ei õpeta?
Kuigi kärbseseeni toiduna ka kasutada saab, kuna nad ühed maailma maitsvamad seened, kus praadides eraldub uskumault hea mekk, siis ikka meie suguste hulgas need asjad on õpitööriistad ja enesealandus tööriistad
5 March 2018 20:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Toomas Sirge soovitan nii soojalt, külnmalt kui ka kuivatatud,
5 March 2018 19:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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seeaeg kui ise mäletame,
Borne identity5 March 2018 10:18
Margus Meigo commented on Birgy Lorenz's post.
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Vaat kui kahju, et arvutihäkker pole5 March 2018 10:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Kena stiilselt daamiliku kõrgklassi ja tüdrukliku maheduse ideaaalne kooslus!
(näpuotsaga veel ka sirelit või miskit tundmatut head vürtsi...rahulikku lõbusat sõbralikust)
(näpuotsaga veel ka sirelit või miskit tundmatut head vürtsi...rahulikku lõbusat sõbralikust)
5 March 2018 09:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
jaa ma tean, mul meelega pea selline
5 March 2018 09:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
"itaalia jõud"
Kohe uudis tuli ka... : )
Kohe uudis tuli ka... : )
5 March 2018 09:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Even in Estonia, issue is who will have time to come not who will pay
5 March 2018 07:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
paljud suva seriaali ja masstoodangut 50+ minut päevas on aega vaadata, telekast paljul mikit, kuid mitte seda. 20 min...hmmm
// oot veel ülejäänu pohi koguse peaks üleslaadima
// oot veel ülejäänu pohi koguse peaks üleslaadima
5 March 2018 06:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ha.. see ka seenekas,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY
https://youtu.be/idJDL5sMd2I?t=840 minut 14,
kuid otsisin seda metsakat, pigem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY
https://youtu.be/idJDL5sMd2I?t=840 minut 14,
kuid otsisin seda metsakat, pigem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY
5 March 2018 06:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ainuüksi inimliku tarkusejärgi juba
seentest rääkimata
seentest rääkimata
5 March 2018 06:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
niipikalt peale tehes, peaks pakkumisi juba lademetes olema, järjekorras, ettemakstes
5 March 2018 06:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Täitsa imelik tööd ka ei leia
5 March 2018 06:38
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Kaljulaid's post.
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kuigi päris riigi lipp täitsa alguses saati, mine tea,v zininge, roheline, valge5 March 2018 06:34
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Kaljulaid's post.
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vanemaid kui riigilipp5 March 2018 06:33
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Kaljulaid's post.
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Meil Eestis ka lippe rohelisega mida kasutada5 March 2018 06:33
Margus Meigo commented on Cristy Buico's photo.
As we say in Estonia: Väga kena oled!
(Really beautiful You are)
(Really beautiful You are)
5 March 2018 06:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ärkamisaeg,
hakatakse kuulama, et täitsa Millised sünad..
hakatakse kuulama, et täitsa Millised sünad..
5 March 2018 06:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mitmes jaamas Eestis regulaarselt päevas korra hümni lastakse, (mis kell hommikul)?
5 March 2018 06:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but i do hope my life becomes normal to everyone eventually
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As we say in Estonia: Väga kena oled!
(Really beautiful You are)
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As we say in Estonia: Väga kena oled!
(Really beautiful You are)
5 March 2018 06:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Or maybe You,
and you see... how much i try to be National, but not so easy
(in my condition / normal simple life only would be not just this what i need to do)
and you see... how much i try to be National, but not so easy
(in my condition / normal simple life only would be not just this what i need to do)
5 March 2018 06:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Oh, the point was, i almost come there, to make Biz and life with Karen, or Her family, and
finally Estonia women, on discovers me, but she was, as i told
// So i still try, as not so many to be found and need to save anyone..so..
i had more then heart broken
finally Estonia women, on discovers me, but she was, as i told
// So i still try, as not so many to be found and need to save anyone..so..
i had more then heart broken
5 March 2018 06:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Good bet, but scary, if so
what will we do?
what will we do?
5 March 2018 06:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as i mean, this is already good,
understanding is something we can work on
understanding is something we can work on
5 March 2018 06:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in that way as you like
5 March 2018 06:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Cristy Buico oh no worry about that if you understand, as for me is good if you read
// and ask any part that any time started to be interesting
// and ask any part that any time started to be interesting
5 March 2018 06:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Cristy Buico, am updated comment above
5 March 2018 06:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I almost wanted to write public here also , my adventure with this woman for who i finally found in Estonia
// She told me she has used to talk with dead mostly, so maybe this why we finally did not get a long unless high on Marijuana
//but yes, ...this if use proper, then can cut down evil in person and make smarter for moments so people can get along,
also helps with planning for life
in long run
but i still have not jet talked to the Richest Queen of Asia and with
Mr. President sChoolShooter
about light bulbs issue and psychedelic research
Ayahuasca Healing Center / School - 'Yacu Puma'
// She told me she has used to talk with dead mostly, so maybe this why we finally did not get a long unless high on Marijuana
//but yes, ...this if use proper, then can cut down evil in person and make smarter for moments so people can get along,
also helps with planning for life
in long run
but i still have not jet talked to the Richest Queen of Asia and with
Mr. President sChoolShooter
about light bulbs issue and psychedelic research
Ayahuasca Healing Center / School - 'Yacu Puma'
5 March 2018 06:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Emotional hurt is always better and no way comparable to physical,
emotional hurt is almost like self harm in most cases (after we get these services up where woman can call anytime when man argues or lack understanding) but when man would go physical if woman would demand order, then woman can know if that emotional hurt before was the words or the fact that he is this kind of specie who would Really, would hurt physically also or stop Her leaving and calling anyone who is safe for you and him
// just do not go to feministic on it, take it Naturally as it is,needed to be taken as on this island on Your aria where 3+ religions live in goodway
emotional hurt is almost like self harm in most cases (after we get these services up where woman can call anytime when man argues or lack understanding) but when man would go physical if woman would demand order, then woman can know if that emotional hurt before was the words or the fact that he is this kind of specie who would Really, would hurt physically also or stop Her leaving and calling anyone who is safe for you and him
// just do not go to feministic on it, take it Naturally as it is,needed to be taken as on this island on Your aria where 3+ religions live in goodway
5 March 2018 05:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
next level is hurting not children, man and animals,
but unless noted for self protection, the hurting other species should be always understood as abnormal
but unless noted for self protection, the hurting other species should be always understood as abnormal
5 March 2018 05:50
Margus Meigo commented on Cristy Buico's photo.
But if everyone listens, who makes sound?
also... i think "listens" is meant to be also as understands how to be after understanding all the time, most of the time
// if someone smokes(nicotine), drinks(alcohol), or hurts (female) then they mistake
also... i think "listens" is meant to be also as understands how to be after understanding all the time, most of the time
// if someone smokes(nicotine), drinks(alcohol), or hurts (female) then they mistake
5 March 2018 05:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aga päriselt, see igal hommikul tuleb täis pikkuses?
Nüüd tuleb meelde, oli jah vanasti vahepeal
Nüüd tuleb meelde, oli jah vanasti vahepeal
5 March 2018 05:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in a world, where jewish made platform would be smart enough to show Rabbi Manis Friedman video few times more to 5000 friends-friends networks,
as compared to..
as compared to..
5 March 2018 05:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
then thats strange for sure
5 March 2018 05:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ISO-E , the Estonia Standard!
National Institute of Standards and Technology
Yes i do knoeck to early,
but we calibre World for You
Ho w, do you like'''?
National Institute of Standards and Technology
Yes i do knoeck to early,
but we calibre World for You
Ho w, do you like'''?
5 March 2018 05:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
No, let me refrain,
Thank You a lot!
i know we could do " 1000 times better " in many directions and dimensions,
eventually,
sometimes,
but,
for there will be always a place for Your importance in a scene
Thank You a lot!
i know we could do " 1000 times better " in many directions and dimensions,
eventually,
sometimes,
but,
for there will be always a place for Your importance in a scene
5 March 2018 05:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just sometimes you got to know,
the times
when you...
_________
the times
when you...
_________
5 March 2018 05:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
no, i refrain,
before some competitor its ability lowers
before some competitor its ability lowers
5 March 2018 05:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own live video.
Jeee my first live, greetings to Keskerakond, just not sure "witch one"
"milline"
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Pole kindel, milline keskerakond, kuid üldises suures plaanis, see eestipoolne,
Kujutage ette nüüd kui laulukooris kellegil on eraasi mis inimesele ebasobilik,
siis võiks öelda, et vaata kus lugu, Rahvalauludega tegeleja sellises teises reaalsuses, mittekokkukäivas reaalsuses tegu tgi, kuidas sai nii olla ja mida see tähendab,
"milline"
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Pole kindel, milline keskerakond, kuid üldises suures plaanis, see eestipoolne,
Kujutage ette nüüd kui laulukooris kellegil on eraasi mis inimesele ebasobilik,
siis võiks öelda, et vaata kus lugu, Rahvalauludega tegeleja sellises teises reaalsuses, mittekokkukäivas reaalsuses tegu tgi, kuidas sai nii olla ja mida see tähendab,
5 March 2018 05:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Whit all respect, but just try to pinpoint jour world in to and around me(rather, just in case assume)
5 March 2018 04:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Was You in to the Connecting the Hippi Beards in NY?
5 March 2018 04:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Greetings Rabbi Manis Friedman!
5 March 2018 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's post.
lihtsalt ideaalne
5 March 2018 00:15
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's post.
pole nad nii intelligentsed midagi :p
5 March 2018 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's video.
kaktust transpordite?
5 March 2018 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/book/9781483230849
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/book/9781483230849
4 March 2018 15:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Old good stack overview:
https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/48890/what-are-the-exceptions-to-mendels-laws
legacy site: https://legacy.cnx.org/content/m44479/1.3/?collection=col11448/1.10&legacy=true
https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/48890/what-are-the-exceptions-to-mendels-laws
legacy site: https://legacy.cnx.org/content/m44479/1.3/?collection=col11448/1.10&legacy=true
https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/48890/what-are-the-exceptions-to-mendels-laws
4 March 2018 15:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Great site/system as well
"
new version: https://cnx.org/contents/GFy_h8cu@10.120:cUeevuaC@3/Laws-of-Inheritance
vs old version:
http://cnx.org/contents/GFy_h8cu@10.57:cUeevuaC@3/Laws-of-Inheritance
https://legacy.cnx.org/content/m44479/1.3/?collection=col11448/1.10&legacy=true (besides adding this site... their system if financed will will be in great hope of dominance and...used as pool and net )
Just the pointing out the deepness of portal, that keeps copy and updates so well.
Great system, back-end must be great also.
fromold
"Linked Genes Violate the Law of Independent Assortment
Although all of Mendel’s pea characteristics behaved according to the law of independent assortment, we now know that some allele combinations are not inherited independently of each other. Genes that are located on separate non-homologous chromosomes will always sort independently. However, each chromosome contains hundreds or thousands of genes, organized linearly on chromosomes like beads on a string. The segregation of alleles into gametes can be influenced by linkage, in which genes that are located physically close to each other on the same chromosome are more likely to be inherited as a pair. However, because of the process of recombination, or “crossover,” it is possible for two genes on the same chromosome to behave independently, or as if they are not linked. To understand this, let’s consider the biological basis of gene linkage and recombination.
Homologous chromosomes possess the same genes in the same linear order. The alleles may differ on homologous chromosome pairs, but the genes to which they correspond do not. In preparation for the first division of meiosis, homologous chromosomes replicate and synapse. Like genes on the homologs align with each other. At this stage, segments of homologous chromosomes exchange linear segments of genetic material (Figure). This process is called recombination, or crossover, and it is a common genetic process. Because the genes are aligned during recombination, the gene order is not altered. Instead, the result of recombination is that maternal and paternal alleles are combined onto the same chromosome. Across a given chromosome, several recombination events may occur, causing extensive shuffling of alleles
"
new version: https://cnx.org/contents/GFy_h8cu@10.120:cUeevuaC@3/Laws-of-Inheritance
vs old version:
http://cnx.org/contents/GFy_h8cu@10.57:cUeevuaC@3/Laws-of-Inheritance
https://legacy.cnx.org/content/m44479/1.3/?collection=col11448/1.10&legacy=true (besides adding this site... their system if financed will will be in great hope of dominance and...used as pool and net )
Just the pointing out the deepness of portal, that keeps copy and updates so well.
Great system, back-end must be great also.
fromold
"Linked Genes Violate the Law of Independent Assortment
Although all of Mendel’s pea characteristics behaved according to the law of independent assortment, we now know that some allele combinations are not inherited independently of each other. Genes that are located on separate non-homologous chromosomes will always sort independently. However, each chromosome contains hundreds or thousands of genes, organized linearly on chromosomes like beads on a string. The segregation of alleles into gametes can be influenced by linkage, in which genes that are located physically close to each other on the same chromosome are more likely to be inherited as a pair. However, because of the process of recombination, or “crossover,” it is possible for two genes on the same chromosome to behave independently, or as if they are not linked. To understand this, let’s consider the biological basis of gene linkage and recombination.
Homologous chromosomes possess the same genes in the same linear order. The alleles may differ on homologous chromosome pairs, but the genes to which they correspond do not. In preparation for the first division of meiosis, homologous chromosomes replicate and synapse. Like genes on the homologs align with each other. At this stage, segments of homologous chromosomes exchange linear segments of genetic material (Figure). This process is called recombination, or crossover, and it is a common genetic process. Because the genes are aligned during recombination, the gene order is not altered. Instead, the result of recombination is that maternal and paternal alleles are combined onto the same chromosome. Across a given chromosome, several recombination events may occur, causing extensive shuffling of alleles
https://cnx.org/contents/GFy_h8cu@10.120:cUeevuaC@3/Laws-of-Inheritance
4 March 2018 15:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
well, no adding so much, but
"When two genes are located on the same chromosome, they are considered linked, and their alleles tend to be transmitted through meiosis together. To exemplify this, imagine a dihybrid cross involving flower color and plant height in which the genes are next to each other on the chromosome. If one homologous chromosome has alleles for tall plants and red flowers, and the other chromosome has genes for short plants and yellow flowers, then when the gametes are formed, the tall and red alleles will tend to go together into a gamete and the short and yellow alleles will go into other gametes. These are called the parental genotypes because they have been inherited intact from the parents of the individual producing gametes. But unlike if the genes were on different chromosomes, there will be no gametes with tall and yellow alleles and no gametes with short and red alleles. If you create a Punnett square with these gametes, you will see that the classical Mendelian prediction of a 9:3:3:1 outcome of a dihybrid cross would not apply. As the distance between two genes increases, the probability of one or more crossovers between them increases and the genes behave more like they are on separate chromosomes. Geneticists have used the proportion of recombinant gametes (the ones not like the parents) as a measure of how far apart genes are on a chromosome. Using this information, they have constructed linkage maps of genes on chromosomes for well-studied organisms, including humans.
Mendel’s seminal publication makes no mention of linkage, and many researchers have questioned whether he encountered linkage but chose not to publish those crosses out of concern that they would invalidate his independent assortment postulate. The garden pea has seven chromosomes, and some have suggested that his choice of seven characteristics was not a coincidence. However, even if the genes he examined were not located on separate chromosomes, it is possible that he simply did not observe linkage because of the extensive shuffling effects of recombination."
https://openoregon.pressbooks.pub/mhccbiology102/chapter/12-9-linked-genes-violate-the-law-of-independent-assortment/
"When two genes are located on the same chromosome, they are considered linked, and their alleles tend to be transmitted through meiosis together. To exemplify this, imagine a dihybrid cross involving flower color and plant height in which the genes are next to each other on the chromosome. If one homologous chromosome has alleles for tall plants and red flowers, and the other chromosome has genes for short plants and yellow flowers, then when the gametes are formed, the tall and red alleles will tend to go together into a gamete and the short and yellow alleles will go into other gametes. These are called the parental genotypes because they have been inherited intact from the parents of the individual producing gametes. But unlike if the genes were on different chromosomes, there will be no gametes with tall and yellow alleles and no gametes with short and red alleles. If you create a Punnett square with these gametes, you will see that the classical Mendelian prediction of a 9:3:3:1 outcome of a dihybrid cross would not apply. As the distance between two genes increases, the probability of one or more crossovers between them increases and the genes behave more like they are on separate chromosomes. Geneticists have used the proportion of recombinant gametes (the ones not like the parents) as a measure of how far apart genes are on a chromosome. Using this information, they have constructed linkage maps of genes on chromosomes for well-studied organisms, including humans.
Mendel’s seminal publication makes no mention of linkage, and many researchers have questioned whether he encountered linkage but chose not to publish those crosses out of concern that they would invalidate his independent assortment postulate. The garden pea has seven chromosomes, and some have suggested that his choice of seven characteristics was not a coincidence. However, even if the genes he examined were not located on separate chromosomes, it is possible that he simply did not observe linkage because of the extensive shuffling effects of recombination."
https://openoregon.pressbooks.pub/mhccbiology102/chapter/12-9-linked-genes-violate-the-law-of-independent-assortment/
https://openoregon.pressbooks.pub/mhccbiology102/chapter/12-9-linked-genes-violate-the-law-of-independent-assortment/
4 March 2018 15:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
maybe,
"Mitochondrial diseases are rare, but when they do happen any children that a woman has will also have the disease too, because her mitochondria are passed on unchanged from mother to offspring.
This has given rise to a new phenomenon: three-person babies. If a mother has a mitochondrial disorder and doesn’t want to pass it on to her kids, she can conceive a baby using some pretty amazing science.
First, doctors take a donor egg from a healthy woman and remove the nucleus—leaving behind an empty shell with plenty of healthy mitochondria inside. Next, they take the nucleus out of one of the biological mom’s eggs and implant it in the empty shell egg.
That way, the new egg has healthy mitochondrial DNA from the donor mom, plus all the nuclear DNA that actually makes up a person from its biological mom. The egg can then be fertilized, implanted, and carried to term just like any other test-tube baby.
Why study non-Mendelian inheritance?
As we’ve seen here, some cases of genetic inheritance can be far more complex than simple Mendelian inheritance. Both types of inheritance are equally important to unlocking the clues hidden away in our own DNA.
Because non-Mendelian inheritance patterns are so complex, there’s plenty of room for new geneticists in the field—maybe you could be the one to discover how an important gene is inherited?"
maybe...
"Mitochondrial diseases are rare, but when they do happen any children that a woman has will also have the disease too, because her mitochondria are passed on unchanged from mother to offspring.
This has given rise to a new phenomenon: three-person babies. If a mother has a mitochondrial disorder and doesn’t want to pass it on to her kids, she can conceive a baby using some pretty amazing science.
First, doctors take a donor egg from a healthy woman and remove the nucleus—leaving behind an empty shell with plenty of healthy mitochondria inside. Next, they take the nucleus out of one of the biological mom’s eggs and implant it in the empty shell egg.
That way, the new egg has healthy mitochondrial DNA from the donor mom, plus all the nuclear DNA that actually makes up a person from its biological mom. The egg can then be fertilized, implanted, and carried to term just like any other test-tube baby.
Why study non-Mendelian inheritance?
As we’ve seen here, some cases of genetic inheritance can be far more complex than simple Mendelian inheritance. Both types of inheritance are equally important to unlocking the clues hidden away in our own DNA.
Because non-Mendelian inheritance patterns are so complex, there’s plenty of room for new geneticists in the field—maybe you could be the one to discover how an important gene is inherited?"
maybe...
4 March 2018 15:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Codominance
Codominance is a direct violation of the Law of Dominance—thank goodness there’s no gene police to tell it that, though!
When the alleles for a particular trait are codominant, they are both expressed equally rather than a dominant allele taking complete control over a recessive allele. This means that when an organism has two different alleles (i.e., is a heterozygote), it’ll express both at the same time.
Have you ever seen speckled flowers? This is a common case of codominance, where the plant breeder has bred two different colors of flower together, resulting in a speckled hybrid that has patches of color from both parents.
One really good example of this in humans is blood type. The most important blood type is the ABO system, because if you get a blood transfusion with the wrong type of blood, you could develop a severe allergic reaction and die!
The A and B blood types are codominant. Thus, if two people with AA and BB blood type alleles have children, it’ll look like this:
In this case, every single child (male or female) from this couple will be heterozygotes. Both alleles will be expressed equally, meaning that every blood cell in their little bodies will have both A antigens and B antigens present. One allele is not dominant over the other in this case.
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ncomplete Dominance
With codominant alleles, both traits are expressed at the same time. With incomplete dominance, the same thing occurs—but the traits are blended together just like paint mixed together, rather than occurring in discrete patches like the speckled flowers.
Going back to our flower example, if flower color shows incomplete dominance then two different flowers crossed together will produce a hybrid that’s in between both of the parents. So, for example, if you cross a white flower with a red flower, you would get a pink flower if the two alleles showed incomplete dominance.
Polygenic Inheritance
Up until this point we’ve been talking about traits that are controlled by alleles from one gene and fit neatly into our Punnett square. But, some traits are controlled by many genes.
// so elementary... (mooooah...)
Many other human traits are controlled through polygenic inheritance, such as IQ, skin color, eye color, etc. Can you think of some of the things that might need to happen to produce these traits?
Gene Linkage
If the above examples are in direct conflict with the Law of Dominance, then gene linkage is in direct conflict with the Law of Independent Assortment!
Many experiments have been done on gene linkage in fruit flies (hopefully the scientists didn’t have too much rotten fruit in their offices!). For example, some combinations of wing shape and body color are inherited together. Fruit flies that have brown bodies are more likely to have normal wings, while fruit flies that have black bodies are more likely to have itty-bitty wings, in one example.
Gene Swapping
Did you know that some organisms don’t even need to reproduce to pass on their genetic material? It sounds strange but it’s true! Some types of bacteria can pass on their genetic material directly to their neighbors, sort of like trading baseball or Pokemon cards.
This obviously makes it very hard to predict genetics of some bacteria, because they can do whatever they want with their genetic material! It’s also one reason why bacteria can evolve very quickly—rather than waiting for a whole new generation, bacteria can pass on their chromosomes to their comrades instantaneously and evolve within a single generation.
Extranuclear Inheritance
Your nuclear DNA lives inside the nucleus in your cells, but did you know you also have other DNA outside your nucleus? It’s true—it lives in your mitochondria, and it’s called mitochondrial DNA. Plants even have their own version too, that lives in their chloroplasts.
Because mitochondria and chloroplasts have their own DNA and reproduce on their own inside each cell, they’re thought to be ancient bacteria that eventually evolved to live inside our cells and provide power. Animals and plants might actually be an amalgamation of several different species!
Mitochondrial DNA is passed down from a mother to her offspring because the mitochondria in sperm cells don’t make it into the egg. Thus, all of the mitochondrial DNA in your body—whether you’re male or female—originally came from your mom!
http://www.untamedscience.com/biology/genetics/non-mendelian-genetics/
Codominance is a direct violation of the Law of Dominance—thank goodness there’s no gene police to tell it that, though!
When the alleles for a particular trait are codominant, they are both expressed equally rather than a dominant allele taking complete control over a recessive allele. This means that when an organism has two different alleles (i.e., is a heterozygote), it’ll express both at the same time.
Have you ever seen speckled flowers? This is a common case of codominance, where the plant breeder has bred two different colors of flower together, resulting in a speckled hybrid that has patches of color from both parents.
One really good example of this in humans is blood type. The most important blood type is the ABO system, because if you get a blood transfusion with the wrong type of blood, you could develop a severe allergic reaction and die!
The A and B blood types are codominant. Thus, if two people with AA and BB blood type alleles have children, it’ll look like this:
In this case, every single child (male or female) from this couple will be heterozygotes. Both alleles will be expressed equally, meaning that every blood cell in their little bodies will have both A antigens and B antigens present. One allele is not dominant over the other in this case.
---
ncomplete Dominance
With codominant alleles, both traits are expressed at the same time. With incomplete dominance, the same thing occurs—but the traits are blended together just like paint mixed together, rather than occurring in discrete patches like the speckled flowers.
Going back to our flower example, if flower color shows incomplete dominance then two different flowers crossed together will produce a hybrid that’s in between both of the parents. So, for example, if you cross a white flower with a red flower, you would get a pink flower if the two alleles showed incomplete dominance.
Polygenic Inheritance
Up until this point we’ve been talking about traits that are controlled by alleles from one gene and fit neatly into our Punnett square. But, some traits are controlled by many genes.
// so elementary... (mooooah...)
Many other human traits are controlled through polygenic inheritance, such as IQ, skin color, eye color, etc. Can you think of some of the things that might need to happen to produce these traits?
Gene Linkage
If the above examples are in direct conflict with the Law of Dominance, then gene linkage is in direct conflict with the Law of Independent Assortment!
Many experiments have been done on gene linkage in fruit flies (hopefully the scientists didn’t have too much rotten fruit in their offices!). For example, some combinations of wing shape and body color are inherited together. Fruit flies that have brown bodies are more likely to have normal wings, while fruit flies that have black bodies are more likely to have itty-bitty wings, in one example.
Gene Swapping
Did you know that some organisms don’t even need to reproduce to pass on their genetic material? It sounds strange but it’s true! Some types of bacteria can pass on their genetic material directly to their neighbors, sort of like trading baseball or Pokemon cards.
This obviously makes it very hard to predict genetics of some bacteria, because they can do whatever they want with their genetic material! It’s also one reason why bacteria can evolve very quickly—rather than waiting for a whole new generation, bacteria can pass on their chromosomes to their comrades instantaneously and evolve within a single generation.
Extranuclear Inheritance
Your nuclear DNA lives inside the nucleus in your cells, but did you know you also have other DNA outside your nucleus? It’s true—it lives in your mitochondria, and it’s called mitochondrial DNA. Plants even have their own version too, that lives in their chloroplasts.
Because mitochondria and chloroplasts have their own DNA and reproduce on their own inside each cell, they’re thought to be ancient bacteria that eventually evolved to live inside our cells and provide power. Animals and plants might actually be an amalgamation of several different species!
Mitochondrial DNA is passed down from a mother to her offspring because the mitochondria in sperm cells don’t make it into the egg. Thus, all of the mitochondrial DNA in your body—whether you’re male or female—originally came from your mom!
http://www.untamedscience.com/biology/genetics/non-mendelian-genetics/
http://www.untamedscience.com/biology/genetics/non-mendelian-genetics/
4 March 2018 15:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2010/04/breaking-mendels-laws-the-value-of-informative-errors/2/
"Because Mendel provided some organizing principles to test ideas against, he broke open the black box. Whether those principles were right or wrong wasn't anywhere near as important as providing a model people could test their observations against. In other words, even people who set out to demonstrate that Mendel was wrong were way ahead of the game compared to anyone that had to develop their own genetic principles from scratch.
Another reason that Mendel's work aged well is that his basic approach aged well, even if his ideas didn't. Although my PhD years seem like ancient history to most of the staff at Ars, they were still over 120 years after Mendel did his experiments. Despite the years, a lot of the work—controlling matings, scoring individual traits, building up large numbers—involved precisely the same approaches that paid off over a century earlier. It was pretty easy to call the work Mendelian when it looked so much like the same thing Mendel had done.
The last reason that Mendel erred so successfully is that scientists were quick to link the basic outlines of segregation to something tangible and physical. The publications that rediscovered his principles date from 1900; in Thomas Morgan's Nobel lecture, he points out that it only took two years before someone had recognized that chromosomes displayed the sort of behavior that would explain segregation and independent assortment. By a decade after that, Morgan was already well on his way to confirming this idea.
That rapid association of Mendel with chromosome behavior was key, because most of the exceptions to Mendel's laws—sex-linked traits, recombination, and so on—could also be associated with chromosomal behavior. So even though many phenomena were technically exceptions to the original laws, it was almost always possible to trace their intellectual lineage back to Mendel's work.
There's a famous phrase attributed to the physicist Wolfgang Pauli, who suggests that some ideas are "not even wrong"—they aren't sufficiently connected to reality or produce testable consequences. Mendel was wrong, or at least limited, in a lot of ways, but not so badly wrong that his ideas couldn't spawn over a century of phenomenally successful science.
"Because Mendel provided some organizing principles to test ideas against, he broke open the black box. Whether those principles were right or wrong wasn't anywhere near as important as providing a model people could test their observations against. In other words, even people who set out to demonstrate that Mendel was wrong were way ahead of the game compared to anyone that had to develop their own genetic principles from scratch.
Another reason that Mendel's work aged well is that his basic approach aged well, even if his ideas didn't. Although my PhD years seem like ancient history to most of the staff at Ars, they were still over 120 years after Mendel did his experiments. Despite the years, a lot of the work—controlling matings, scoring individual traits, building up large numbers—involved precisely the same approaches that paid off over a century earlier. It was pretty easy to call the work Mendelian when it looked so much like the same thing Mendel had done.
The last reason that Mendel erred so successfully is that scientists were quick to link the basic outlines of segregation to something tangible and physical. The publications that rediscovered his principles date from 1900; in Thomas Morgan's Nobel lecture, he points out that it only took two years before someone had recognized that chromosomes displayed the sort of behavior that would explain segregation and independent assortment. By a decade after that, Morgan was already well on his way to confirming this idea.
That rapid association of Mendel with chromosome behavior was key, because most of the exceptions to Mendel's laws—sex-linked traits, recombination, and so on—could also be associated with chromosomal behavior. So even though many phenomena were technically exceptions to the original laws, it was almost always possible to trace their intellectual lineage back to Mendel's work.
There's a famous phrase attributed to the physicist Wolfgang Pauli, who suggests that some ideas are "not even wrong"—they aren't sufficiently connected to reality or produce testable consequences. Mendel was wrong, or at least limited, in a lot of ways, but not so badly wrong that his ideas couldn't spawn over a century of phenomenally successful science.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2010/04/breaking-mendels-laws-the-value-of-informative-errors/2/
4 March 2018 15:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Nevertheless, people eventually saw the sorts of patterns identified by Mendel, and quickly recognized he had beaten them there. But, with his laws being examined by the scientific community, it took less than a decade for researchers to start to identify some serious limitations to the patterns of inheritance seen by Mendel. Some of these will be familiar to anyone with a high school biology education: incomplete dominance, environmental influences, and so forth. But the basic insight Mendel had—that genes were more or less invariant across generations, even if the traits they promoted would sometimes be impossible to detect—could be used to explain all of these exceptions.
His experimental approach also turned out to be key in understanding a different phenomenon, which we now call linkage. Before the decade of rediscovery was gone, researchers had found that, in many cases, there were large deviations from Mendel's law of independent assortment. For some pairs of genes, the specific versions (called alleles) inherited from a parent tended to continue to be inherited together; once separated, they tended to remain separate.
Thomas Hunt Morgan, working with the fruit fly, used Mendel's approach of controlled matings and massive number of offspring to characterize linkage. He show that patterns of linkage were consistent and the frequency of reassortment was more or less additive, allowing the locations of genes to be mapped. Eventually, this enabled him to demonstrate that the linkage seen through genetic crosses had a direct relationship with the order of genes on a chromosome."
"Early in the process of studying Drosophila genetics—according to various stories, it was the very first mutant isolated by his group—Morgan discovered a sex-linked trait, one that was far more common in males than females. Ultimately, he identified the cause of this pattern: the gene for this trait was recessive, but present on the X chromosome. Females would only show the recessive phenotype caused by the mutation if they inherited two copies, one on each of their X chromosomes. Males, with only one copy of the X, would express the trait whenever they inherited it.
Mendel's law of segregation worked when animals had two copies of a gene, the diploid state. When it comes to the X chromosome, male flies are haploid—they've only got one copy. Another law bites the dust.
In fact, Mendel's attempts to extend his work in peas probably ran up against a more significant version of haploidy. In an attempt to determine if his laws applied to animals, Mendel stayed in the garden and started working with honeybees. A bad choice, considering that honeybee males are the products of unfertilized eggs, and thus are haploid for every single chromosome. Between some confusing results and his sense that he couldn't control the matings of the queens, Mendel didn't get very far on this experiment before his promotion to abbot
https://arstechnica.com/science/2010/04/breaking-mendels-laws-the-value-of-informative-errors/
His experimental approach also turned out to be key in understanding a different phenomenon, which we now call linkage. Before the decade of rediscovery was gone, researchers had found that, in many cases, there were large deviations from Mendel's law of independent assortment. For some pairs of genes, the specific versions (called alleles) inherited from a parent tended to continue to be inherited together; once separated, they tended to remain separate.
Thomas Hunt Morgan, working with the fruit fly, used Mendel's approach of controlled matings and massive number of offspring to characterize linkage. He show that patterns of linkage were consistent and the frequency of reassortment was more or less additive, allowing the locations of genes to be mapped. Eventually, this enabled him to demonstrate that the linkage seen through genetic crosses had a direct relationship with the order of genes on a chromosome."
"Early in the process of studying Drosophila genetics—according to various stories, it was the very first mutant isolated by his group—Morgan discovered a sex-linked trait, one that was far more common in males than females. Ultimately, he identified the cause of this pattern: the gene for this trait was recessive, but present on the X chromosome. Females would only show the recessive phenotype caused by the mutation if they inherited two copies, one on each of their X chromosomes. Males, with only one copy of the X, would express the trait whenever they inherited it.
Mendel's law of segregation worked when animals had two copies of a gene, the diploid state. When it comes to the X chromosome, male flies are haploid—they've only got one copy. Another law bites the dust.
In fact, Mendel's attempts to extend his work in peas probably ran up against a more significant version of haploidy. In an attempt to determine if his laws applied to animals, Mendel stayed in the garden and started working with honeybees. A bad choice, considering that honeybee males are the products of unfertilized eggs, and thus are haploid for every single chromosome. Between some confusing results and his sense that he couldn't control the matings of the queens, Mendel didn't get very far on this experiment before his promotion to abbot
https://arstechnica.com/science/2010/04/breaking-mendels-laws-the-value-of-informative-errors/
https://arstechnica.com/science/2010/04/breaking-mendels-laws-the-value-of-informative-errors/
4 March 2018 15:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
V. Some useful terminology
1. A trait or character is a morphological or physiological feature of an organism, such as flower color. These terms are also used to signify a particular form of a trait or character, such as white flowers.
2. "Heritable" means the trait can be passed from parent to progeny.
3. A trait is true breeding when it occurs in one particular form through many generations of breeding individuals that share that trait.
4. True-breeding plants, when used for crossing (mating) with other plants that have an alternative form of the same trait, are called the parental generation, designated P.
5. The progeny from the cross of the P parents are called the first filial generation, designated F1.
6. When F1 individuals are crossed to each other or self-fertilized, their progeny are designated F2.
7. A monohybrid cross involves crosses that follow the inheritance of only one trait.
8. A dihybrid cross involves following the inheritance of two traits.
9. Reciprocal crosses helped prove that both male and female parents contribute equally to the autosomal characteristics inherited by offspring.
10. Different forms of a gene are called alleles. Each allele is given a symbol, either an upper case (dominant allele) or lower case (recessive allele) letter.
11. The dominant allele is the one expressed in the heterozygote, whereas the recessive allele is only expressed in the homozygote. True-breeding individuals would have two copies of the same allele.
12. homozygous: both alleles code for the same form of a single trait.
13. heterozygous: each allele codes for a different form of the same trait.
14. phenotype: The physical appearance or expressed traits of an organism.
15. genotype: All the alleles an organism inherits or has, expressed or not..
16. A gene is a portion of the chromosomal DNA that resides at a particular site, called a locus (plural is loci), and that codes for a particular trait.
17. A test cross is between an individual that is homozygous recessive for a particular character and an individual of unknown genotype for that same character. The test cross results will indicate if the unknown genotype is homozygous dominant or heterozygous.
1. A trait or character is a morphological or physiological feature of an organism, such as flower color. These terms are also used to signify a particular form of a trait or character, such as white flowers.
2. "Heritable" means the trait can be passed from parent to progeny.
3. A trait is true breeding when it occurs in one particular form through many generations of breeding individuals that share that trait.
4. True-breeding plants, when used for crossing (mating) with other plants that have an alternative form of the same trait, are called the parental generation, designated P.
5. The progeny from the cross of the P parents are called the first filial generation, designated F1.
6. When F1 individuals are crossed to each other or self-fertilized, their progeny are designated F2.
7. A monohybrid cross involves crosses that follow the inheritance of only one trait.
8. A dihybrid cross involves following the inheritance of two traits.
9. Reciprocal crosses helped prove that both male and female parents contribute equally to the autosomal characteristics inherited by offspring.
10. Different forms of a gene are called alleles. Each allele is given a symbol, either an upper case (dominant allele) or lower case (recessive allele) letter.
11. The dominant allele is the one expressed in the heterozygote, whereas the recessive allele is only expressed in the homozygote. True-breeding individuals would have two copies of the same allele.
12. homozygous: both alleles code for the same form of a single trait.
13. heterozygous: each allele codes for a different form of the same trait.
14. phenotype: The physical appearance or expressed traits of an organism.
15. genotype: All the alleles an organism inherits or has, expressed or not..
16. A gene is a portion of the chromosomal DNA that resides at a particular site, called a locus (plural is loci), and that codes for a particular trait.
17. A test cross is between an individual that is homozygous recessive for a particular character and an individual of unknown genotype for that same character. The test cross results will indicate if the unknown genotype is homozygous dominant or heterozygous.
4 March 2018 15:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Genetics: Mendel and Beyond
http://stripe.colorado.edu/~didomeni/Chapter22.htm
Beyond Mendelian Genetics
A. Exceptions to, or violations of, Mendel’s laws: What can cause there to be exceptions to Mendel’s laws?
1. nondisjunction: The segregation of alleles is prevented if homologous chromosome pairs fail to separate during meiosis 1.
2. gene linkage: This can prevent independent assortment. Linked genes are on the same chromosome. Genes that are on the same chromosome can be inherited together, but crossing over during meiosis may separate them.
B. Sex-linkage
1. Sex chromosomes vs. autosomes: Many organisms have homologous pairs of all chromosomes except for those that determine sex. The chromosomes that occur as homologous pairs in all organisms of a species are called autosomes. Chromosome pairings that can vary depending on the sex of an organism are called sex chromosomes. In most vertebrates, including humans, the X and y chromosome are the sex chromosomes.
2. Sex determination: the SRY (sex-determining region on the y chromosome) gene and the DAX1 gene of the X chromosome. Females with XX are diploid for X-linked genes; On the other hand, XY males are haploid with respect to the genes present on the different X and y chromosome. Males are haploid with respect to the genes on the sex chromosomes, a condition called hemizygous. This generates a special type of inheritance called sex-linked. Sex determination can be very different for different species.
3. Sex-linked inheritance: The probability for a male of having an X-linked genetic disease caused by a mutant recessive allele is much higher than it is for a female. Because men have only one X chromosome, they express the genes it contains whether they are dominant or recessive. The probability for a man of having an X-linked recessive genetic disease is the same as the frequency of that allele in the population. For these reasons X-linked recessive phenotypes appear much more often in males than in females. The most common forms of muscular dystrophy and hemophilia, as well as red-green color blindness, are a few X-linked human phenotypes caused by recessive alleles.
4. Sex-limited inheritance: These are traits expressed only in males or females, but not both. Sperm production in males and egg production by females are examples of sex-limited traits.
5. Sex-influenced inheritance: Some traits appear in both males and females, but differ in how they are expressed. Patterned baldness is controlled by the same allele pair in both sexes, but the allele is dominant in males and recessive in females. Obviously other factors (genes) are involved in the expression of this trait.
IV. Non-Mendelian Allelic Interactions: Differences between alleles of a gene pair are the result of slight differences in their DNA sequence, which results in slightly different protein products being produced by each allele. The expression of some alleles cannot be accurately described as simply dominant or recessive. There may be many alleles for a single character, or a single allele may have multiple phenotypic effects. New alleles arise only by mutation. Different alleles exist because any gene is subject to mutation, or change, into a stable, heritable new form. Alleles can randomly mutate to become a different allele depending on DNA sequence changes. The following are some examples of allelic interactions that defy the dominant/recessive dichotomy.
A. Multiple alleles: Although an individual will have only two alleles for a given gene, more than two alleles for that gene may be present in the population.
1. ABO blood types are an example of multiple alleles.
2. Fur color in rabbits is determined by one gene with four different possible alleles.
3. Even if more than two alleles exist in a population, any given individual can have no more than two of them: one from the mother and one from the father.
B. Incomplete Dominance: Heterozygotes may show an intermediate phenotype.
1. red-flowered snapdragons when crossed with white will generate pink-flowered plants. Is this blending?
2. The phenotypic outcomes for snapdragon flower color, and incomplete dominance in general, can be explained biochemically.
C. Codominance: In codominance, two different alleles for a gene produce two different phenotypes in the heterozygotes.
1. The AB of the human ABO blood group system is an example. Both the A and B alleles are expressed when present, and both produce an antigen. This is why they are called codominant. The O allele is always recessive, and does result in the production of an antigen.
D. Pleiotropy: This refers to single alleles that have more than one distinguishable phenotypic effect.
1. An example is the coloration pattern and crossed eyes of Siamese cats, which are both caused by the same allele. These unrelated characters are caused by the same protein produced by the same allele, but in different cells or during different stages of development this protein is involved in different metabolic pathways.
E. Polygenic inheritance: Many characters are influenced by genes at multiple loci.
1. quantitative traits: Some polygenic characters vary continuously or quantitatively across populations, like height, weight, and skin color.
2. Epistasis: Alleles of one gene pair can influence, cover up, or alter the expression of alleles of another gene pair. An example is coat color in rats. One allele pair is involved in pigment production and a second pair of alleles is involved in depositing the pigment into the fur.
F. Multifactorial inheritance: Most gene expression is influenced by environmental factors. An organism’s phenotype is the result of both genetic and environmental factors. This forms the basis of nature versus nurture arguments.
1. Penetrance: The proportion of individuals in a population with a given genotype that express the corresponding phenotype can sometimes be measured, and the measure is called penetrance.
2. Expressivity is the degree to which a genotype is expressed in an individual’s phenotype. Not all phenotypes of the same character are equal.
G. Cytoplasmic Inheritance. Mendelian genetics is the genetics of the nucleus, but other cytoplasmic organelles carry genetic material. Mitochondria, chloroplasts, and other plastids possess a small amount of DNA. The genome is the total configuration of genetic material, including both nuclear and non-nuclear elements. Mitochondria and plastids are inherited from the egg cell (mother) only, since the egg contains abundant cytoplasm and organelles. The mitochondria in sperm do not take part in gamete union. Mitochondrial mutations have been linked to human genetic diseases. Leber’s hereditary optic neuropathy is a disease in which a mitochondrial gene mutation of an electron transport chain enzyme can lead to optic nerve degeneration and blindness. Mitochondrial inheritance also has been important in tracing human evolution.
http://stripe.colorado.edu/~didomeni/Chapter22.htm
Beyond Mendelian Genetics
A. Exceptions to, or violations of, Mendel’s laws: What can cause there to be exceptions to Mendel’s laws?
1. nondisjunction: The segregation of alleles is prevented if homologous chromosome pairs fail to separate during meiosis 1.
2. gene linkage: This can prevent independent assortment. Linked genes are on the same chromosome. Genes that are on the same chromosome can be inherited together, but crossing over during meiosis may separate them.
B. Sex-linkage
1. Sex chromosomes vs. autosomes: Many organisms have homologous pairs of all chromosomes except for those that determine sex. The chromosomes that occur as homologous pairs in all organisms of a species are called autosomes. Chromosome pairings that can vary depending on the sex of an organism are called sex chromosomes. In most vertebrates, including humans, the X and y chromosome are the sex chromosomes.
2. Sex determination: the SRY (sex-determining region on the y chromosome) gene and the DAX1 gene of the X chromosome. Females with XX are diploid for X-linked genes; On the other hand, XY males are haploid with respect to the genes present on the different X and y chromosome. Males are haploid with respect to the genes on the sex chromosomes, a condition called hemizygous. This generates a special type of inheritance called sex-linked. Sex determination can be very different for different species.
3. Sex-linked inheritance: The probability for a male of having an X-linked genetic disease caused by a mutant recessive allele is much higher than it is for a female. Because men have only one X chromosome, they express the genes it contains whether they are dominant or recessive. The probability for a man of having an X-linked recessive genetic disease is the same as the frequency of that allele in the population. For these reasons X-linked recessive phenotypes appear much more often in males than in females. The most common forms of muscular dystrophy and hemophilia, as well as red-green color blindness, are a few X-linked human phenotypes caused by recessive alleles.
4. Sex-limited inheritance: These are traits expressed only in males or females, but not both. Sperm production in males and egg production by females are examples of sex-limited traits.
5. Sex-influenced inheritance: Some traits appear in both males and females, but differ in how they are expressed. Patterned baldness is controlled by the same allele pair in both sexes, but the allele is dominant in males and recessive in females. Obviously other factors (genes) are involved in the expression of this trait.
IV. Non-Mendelian Allelic Interactions: Differences between alleles of a gene pair are the result of slight differences in their DNA sequence, which results in slightly different protein products being produced by each allele. The expression of some alleles cannot be accurately described as simply dominant or recessive. There may be many alleles for a single character, or a single allele may have multiple phenotypic effects. New alleles arise only by mutation. Different alleles exist because any gene is subject to mutation, or change, into a stable, heritable new form. Alleles can randomly mutate to become a different allele depending on DNA sequence changes. The following are some examples of allelic interactions that defy the dominant/recessive dichotomy.
A. Multiple alleles: Although an individual will have only two alleles for a given gene, more than two alleles for that gene may be present in the population.
1. ABO blood types are an example of multiple alleles.
2. Fur color in rabbits is determined by one gene with four different possible alleles.
3. Even if more than two alleles exist in a population, any given individual can have no more than two of them: one from the mother and one from the father.
B. Incomplete Dominance: Heterozygotes may show an intermediate phenotype.
1. red-flowered snapdragons when crossed with white will generate pink-flowered plants. Is this blending?
2. The phenotypic outcomes for snapdragon flower color, and incomplete dominance in general, can be explained biochemically.
C. Codominance: In codominance, two different alleles for a gene produce two different phenotypes in the heterozygotes.
1. The AB of the human ABO blood group system is an example. Both the A and B alleles are expressed when present, and both produce an antigen. This is why they are called codominant. The O allele is always recessive, and does result in the production of an antigen.
D. Pleiotropy: This refers to single alleles that have more than one distinguishable phenotypic effect.
1. An example is the coloration pattern and crossed eyes of Siamese cats, which are both caused by the same allele. These unrelated characters are caused by the same protein produced by the same allele, but in different cells or during different stages of development this protein is involved in different metabolic pathways.
E. Polygenic inheritance: Many characters are influenced by genes at multiple loci.
1. quantitative traits: Some polygenic characters vary continuously or quantitatively across populations, like height, weight, and skin color.
2. Epistasis: Alleles of one gene pair can influence, cover up, or alter the expression of alleles of another gene pair. An example is coat color in rats. One allele pair is involved in pigment production and a second pair of alleles is involved in depositing the pigment into the fur.
F. Multifactorial inheritance: Most gene expression is influenced by environmental factors. An organism’s phenotype is the result of both genetic and environmental factors. This forms the basis of nature versus nurture arguments.
1. Penetrance: The proportion of individuals in a population with a given genotype that express the corresponding phenotype can sometimes be measured, and the measure is called penetrance.
2. Expressivity is the degree to which a genotype is expressed in an individual’s phenotype. Not all phenotypes of the same character are equal.
G. Cytoplasmic Inheritance. Mendelian genetics is the genetics of the nucleus, but other cytoplasmic organelles carry genetic material. Mitochondria, chloroplasts, and other plastids possess a small amount of DNA. The genome is the total configuration of genetic material, including both nuclear and non-nuclear elements. Mitochondria and plastids are inherited from the egg cell (mother) only, since the egg contains abundant cytoplasm and organelles. The mitochondria in sperm do not take part in gamete union. Mitochondrial mutations have been linked to human genetic diseases. Leber’s hereditary optic neuropathy is a disease in which a mitochondrial gene mutation of an electron transport chain enzyme can lead to optic nerve degeneration and blindness. Mitochondrial inheritance also has been important in tracing human evolution.
http://stripe.colorado.edu/~didomeni/Chapter22.htm
4 March 2018 15:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Law of Segregation of genes (the "First Law")
Figure 1 Dominant and recessive phenotypes.
(1) Parental generation.
(2) F1 generation.
(3) F2 generation. Dominant (red) and recessive (white) phenotype look alike in the F1 (first) generation and show a 3:1 ratio in the F2 (second) generation.
The Law of Segregation states that every individual organism contains two alleles for each trait, and that these alleles segregate (separate) during meiosis such that each gamete contains only one of the alleles.[6] An offspring thus receives a pair of alleles for a trait by inheriting homologous chromosomes from the parent organisms: one allele for each trait from each parent.[6]
Molecular proof of this principle was subsequently found through observation of meiosis by two scientists independently, the German botanist Oscar Hertwig in 1876, and the Belgian zoologist Edouard Van Beneden in 1883. Paternal and maternal chromosomes get separated in meiosis and the alleles with the traits of a character are segregated into two different gametes. Each parent contributes a single gamete, and thus a single, randomly successful allele copy to their offspring and fertilization.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/mendelian-inheritance
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Muud lingid:
"http://www.jstor.org/sici?sici=0002-9122%28200105%2988%3A5%3C737%3AMCABAH%3E2.0.CO%3B2-4&origin=crossref& http://www.news-medical.net/health/History-of-Genetics.aspx http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21154/ http://www.geneticseducation.nhs.uk/learning-genetics/patterns-of-inheritance.aspx
http://www.uvm.edu/~cgep/Education/Inheritance2.html
Figure 1 Dominant and recessive phenotypes.
(1) Parental generation.
(2) F1 generation.
(3) F2 generation. Dominant (red) and recessive (white) phenotype look alike in the F1 (first) generation and show a 3:1 ratio in the F2 (second) generation.
The Law of Segregation states that every individual organism contains two alleles for each trait, and that these alleles segregate (separate) during meiosis such that each gamete contains only one of the alleles.[6] An offspring thus receives a pair of alleles for a trait by inheriting homologous chromosomes from the parent organisms: one allele for each trait from each parent.[6]
Molecular proof of this principle was subsequently found through observation of meiosis by two scientists independently, the German botanist Oscar Hertwig in 1876, and the Belgian zoologist Edouard Van Beneden in 1883. Paternal and maternal chromosomes get separated in meiosis and the alleles with the traits of a character are segregated into two different gametes. Each parent contributes a single gamete, and thus a single, randomly successful allele copy to their offspring and fertilization.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/mendelian-inheritance
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Muud lingid:
"http://www.jstor.org/sici?sici=0002-9122%28200105%2988%3A5%3C737%3AMCABAH%3E2.0.CO%3B2-4&origin=crossref& http://www.news-medical.net/health/History-of-Genetics.aspx http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21154/ http://www.geneticseducation.nhs.uk/learning-genetics/patterns-of-inheritance.aspx
http://www.uvm.edu/~cgep/Education/Inheritance2.html
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/mendelian-inheritance
4 March 2018 15:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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"The law of segregation describes how homologous chromosomes (and hence allele pairs) are separated in meiosis I
The law of independent assortment describes how homologous pairs align randomly (as bivalents) during metaphase I
Through the elucidation of the process of meiosis, we now know that there are certain exceptions to Mendel’s laws:
Genes that are on the same chromosome (linked genes) will not undergo independent assortment (unless recombination occurs)
Not all genes display a dominance hierarchy – certain traits may display codominance or incomplete dominance"
"The law of segregation describes how homologous chromosomes (and hence allele pairs) are separated in meiosis I
The law of independent assortment describes how homologous pairs align randomly (as bivalents) during metaphase I
Through the elucidation of the process of meiosis, we now know that there are certain exceptions to Mendel’s laws:
Genes that are on the same chromosome (linked genes) will not undergo independent assortment (unless recombination occurs)
Not all genes display a dominance hierarchy – certain traits may display codominance or incomplete dominance"
4 March 2018 14:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Law of Independent Assortment (the "Second Law")
https://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~mcclean/plsc431/mendel/mendel3.htm
Figure 2 Dihybrid cross. The phenotypes of two independent traits show a 9:3:3:1 ratio in the F2 generation. In this example, coat color is indicated by B (brown, dominant) or b (white), while tail length is indicated by S (short, dominant) or s (long). When parents are homozygous for each trait (SSbb and ssBB), their children in the F1 generation are heterozygous at both loci and only show the dominant phenotypes (SsbB). If the children mate with each other, in the F2 generation all combinations of coat color and tail length occur: 9 are brown/short (purple boxes), 3 are white/short (pink boxes), 3 are brown/long (blue boxes) and 1 is white/long (green box).
The Law of Independent Assortment states that alleles for separate traits are passed independently of one another i.e from parents to offspring.[7] That is, the biological selection of an allele for one trait has nothing to do with the selection of an allele for any other trait. Mendel found support for this law in his dihybrid cross experiments (Fig. 1). In his monohybrid crosses, an idealized 3:1 ratio between dominant and recessive phenotypes resulted. In dihybrid crosses, however, he found a 9:3:3:1 ratios (Fig. 2). This shows that each of the two alleles is inherited independently from the other, with a 3:1 phenotypic ratio for each.
Independent assortment occurs in eukaryotic organisms during meiotic prophase I, and produces a gamete with a mixture of the organism's chromosomes. The physical basis of the independent assortment of chromosomes is the random orientation of each bivalent chromosome along the metaphase plate with respect to the other bivalent chromosomes. Along with crossing over, independent assortment increases genetic diversity by producing novel genetic combinations.
There are many violations of independent assortment due to genetic linkage.
Of the 46 chromosomes in a normal diploid human cell, half are maternally derived (from the mother's egg) and half are paternally derived (from the father's sperm). This occurs as sexual reproduction involves the fusion of two haploid gametes (the egg and sperm) to produce a new organism having the full complement of chromosomes. During gametogenesis—the production of new gametes by an adult—the normal complement of 46 chromosomes needs to be halved to 23 to ensure that the resulting haploid gamete can join with another gamete to produce a diploid organism. An error in the number of chromosomes, such as those caused by a diploid gamete joining with a haploid gamete, is termed aneuploidy.
In independent assortment, the chromosomes that result are randomly sorted from all possible maternal and paternal chromosomes. Because zygotes end up with a random mix instead of a pre-defined "set" from either parent, chromosomes are therefore considered assorted independently. As such, the zygote can end up with any combination of paternal or maternal chromosomes. Any of the possible variants of a zygote formed from maternal and paternal chromosomes will occur with equal frequency. For human gametes, with 23 pairs of chromosomes, the number of possibilities is 223 or 8,388,608 possible combinations.[8] The zygote will normally end up with 23 chromosomes pairs, but the origin of any particular chromosome will be randomly selected from paternal or maternal chromosomes. This contributes to the genetic variability of progeny.
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as also:
"Another feature of of independent assortment is recombination. Recombination occurs during meiosis and is a process that breaks and recombines pieces of DNA to produce new combinations of genes. Recombination scrambles pieces of maternal and paternal genes, which ensures that genes assort independently from one another. It is important to note that there is an exception to the law of independent assortment for genes that are located very close to one another on the same chromosome because of genetic linkage."
https://www.nature.com/scitable/definition/principle-of-independent-assortment-law-of-independent-302/ simple
https://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~mcclean/plsc431/mendel/mendel3.htm
Figure 2 Dihybrid cross. The phenotypes of two independent traits show a 9:3:3:1 ratio in the F2 generation. In this example, coat color is indicated by B (brown, dominant) or b (white), while tail length is indicated by S (short, dominant) or s (long). When parents are homozygous for each trait (SSbb and ssBB), their children in the F1 generation are heterozygous at both loci and only show the dominant phenotypes (SsbB). If the children mate with each other, in the F2 generation all combinations of coat color and tail length occur: 9 are brown/short (purple boxes), 3 are white/short (pink boxes), 3 are brown/long (blue boxes) and 1 is white/long (green box).
The Law of Independent Assortment states that alleles for separate traits are passed independently of one another i.e from parents to offspring.[7] That is, the biological selection of an allele for one trait has nothing to do with the selection of an allele for any other trait. Mendel found support for this law in his dihybrid cross experiments (Fig. 1). In his monohybrid crosses, an idealized 3:1 ratio between dominant and recessive phenotypes resulted. In dihybrid crosses, however, he found a 9:3:3:1 ratios (Fig. 2). This shows that each of the two alleles is inherited independently from the other, with a 3:1 phenotypic ratio for each.
Independent assortment occurs in eukaryotic organisms during meiotic prophase I, and produces a gamete with a mixture of the organism's chromosomes. The physical basis of the independent assortment of chromosomes is the random orientation of each bivalent chromosome along the metaphase plate with respect to the other bivalent chromosomes. Along with crossing over, independent assortment increases genetic diversity by producing novel genetic combinations.
There are many violations of independent assortment due to genetic linkage.
Of the 46 chromosomes in a normal diploid human cell, half are maternally derived (from the mother's egg) and half are paternally derived (from the father's sperm). This occurs as sexual reproduction involves the fusion of two haploid gametes (the egg and sperm) to produce a new organism having the full complement of chromosomes. During gametogenesis—the production of new gametes by an adult—the normal complement of 46 chromosomes needs to be halved to 23 to ensure that the resulting haploid gamete can join with another gamete to produce a diploid organism. An error in the number of chromosomes, such as those caused by a diploid gamete joining with a haploid gamete, is termed aneuploidy.
In independent assortment, the chromosomes that result are randomly sorted from all possible maternal and paternal chromosomes. Because zygotes end up with a random mix instead of a pre-defined "set" from either parent, chromosomes are therefore considered assorted independently. As such, the zygote can end up with any combination of paternal or maternal chromosomes. Any of the possible variants of a zygote formed from maternal and paternal chromosomes will occur with equal frequency. For human gametes, with 23 pairs of chromosomes, the number of possibilities is 223 or 8,388,608 possible combinations.[8] The zygote will normally end up with 23 chromosomes pairs, but the origin of any particular chromosome will be randomly selected from paternal or maternal chromosomes. This contributes to the genetic variability of progeny.
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as also:
"Another feature of of independent assortment is recombination. Recombination occurs during meiosis and is a process that breaks and recombines pieces of DNA to produce new combinations of genes. Recombination scrambles pieces of maternal and paternal genes, which ensures that genes assort independently from one another. It is important to note that there is an exception to the law of independent assortment for genes that are located very close to one another on the same chromosome because of genetic linkage."
https://www.nature.com/scitable/definition/principle-of-independent-assortment-law-of-independent-302/ simple
https://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~mcclean/plsc431/mendel/mendel3.htm
4 March 2018 14:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Our World to much looking in to this, instead try to look softest batters, just in case first try to hope for last highest proof, for seeds to open them self up..but many of old and new monks research is eliminated how ever cute, in reasons of not being productively beneficial for corporation & state philosophy.
"Law of Dominance (the "Third Law")
Mendel's Law of Dominance states that recessive alleles will always be masked by dominant alleles. Therefore, a cross between a homozygous dominant and a homozygous recessive will always express the dominant phenotype, while still having a heterozygous genotype. The Law of Dominance can be explained easily with the help of a mono hybrid cross experiment:- In a cross between two organisms pure for any pair (or pairs) of contrasting traits (characters), the character that appears in the F1 generation is called "dominant" and the one which is suppressed (not expressed) is called "recessive." Each character is controlled by a pair of dissimilar factors. Only one of the characters expresses. The one which expresses in the F1 generation is called Dominant. However, the law of dominance is not universally applicable
http://www.interactive-biology.com/3879/mendels-law-of-dominance/
https://www.khanacademy.org/science/biology/classical-genetics/mendelian--genetics/a/the-law-of-independent-assortment
https://www.khanacademy.org/science/biology/classical-genetics/mendelian--genetics/a/the-law-of-segregation
"SO WHY DOES ONLY T EXPRESSES ITSELF IN A TT PAIR? WHY WAS A PLANT WHOSE ONE PARENT WAS TALL AND ANOTHER SHORT EXPRESSES ONLY THE TALL TRAIT?"
//to answer it spiritually (co-operation, submission + occasional domination & full spectrum of emotions in plants not just earthy but spiritual domain) would be to much so let's just look it mechanically alright..(bitter irony implied in last part)
"Law of Dominance (the "Third Law")
Mendel's Law of Dominance states that recessive alleles will always be masked by dominant alleles. Therefore, a cross between a homozygous dominant and a homozygous recessive will always express the dominant phenotype, while still having a heterozygous genotype. The Law of Dominance can be explained easily with the help of a mono hybrid cross experiment:- In a cross between two organisms pure for any pair (or pairs) of contrasting traits (characters), the character that appears in the F1 generation is called "dominant" and the one which is suppressed (not expressed) is called "recessive." Each character is controlled by a pair of dissimilar factors. Only one of the characters expresses. The one which expresses in the F1 generation is called Dominant. However, the law of dominance is not universally applicable
http://www.interactive-biology.com/3879/mendels-law-of-dominance/
https://www.khanacademy.org/science/biology/classical-genetics/mendelian--genetics/a/the-law-of-independent-assortment
https://www.khanacademy.org/science/biology/classical-genetics/mendelian--genetics/a/the-law-of-segregation
"SO WHY DOES ONLY T EXPRESSES ITSELF IN A TT PAIR? WHY WAS A PLANT WHOSE ONE PARENT WAS TALL AND ANOTHER SHORT EXPRESSES ONLY THE TALL TRAIT?"
//to answer it spiritually (co-operation, submission + occasional domination & full spectrum of emotions in plants not just earthy but spiritual domain) would be to much so let's just look it mechanically alright..(bitter irony implied in last part)
http://www.interactive-biology.com/3879/mendels-law-of-dominance/
4 March 2018 14:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.encyclopedia.com/science/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/disastrous-effects-lysenkoism-soviet-agriculture
Based on his misunderstanding of genetics, Lysenko developed methods that falsely predicted greater crop yields through a hardening of seeds and a new system of crop rotation. Lysenko's system of crop rotation eventually led to soil depletion that required years of replenishment with mineral fertilizers. Under Lysenko's direction, hybrid corn programs based on successful U.S. models were stopped—and the research facilities destroyed—because Lysenko philosophically opposed "inbreeding."
When Nikita Khrushchev (1894-1971) assumed the post of Soviet Premier following the death of Stalin in 1953, opposition to Lysenko began to grow. Khrushchev eventually stated that under Lysenko, "Soviet agricultural research spent over 30 years in darkness." In 1964, Lysenko's doctrines were discredited, and intensive efforts made toward the reestablishing of Mendelian genetics and bringing Soviet agricultural, biological, and genetics research into conformity with Western nations.
Ultimately, the rejection of Lysenkoism was a victory for empirical evidence. Science also triumphed over Lysenkoism because there was a manifest rejection of incorporating Marxist rhetoric into the language and theoretical underpinning of genetics.
--
http://alt.hobart.k12.in.us/jkousen/Biology/mendel.htm
https://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~mcclean/plsc431/mendel/mendel1.htm
Based on his misunderstanding of genetics, Lysenko developed methods that falsely predicted greater crop yields through a hardening of seeds and a new system of crop rotation. Lysenko's system of crop rotation eventually led to soil depletion that required years of replenishment with mineral fertilizers. Under Lysenko's direction, hybrid corn programs based on successful U.S. models were stopped—and the research facilities destroyed—because Lysenko philosophically opposed "inbreeding."
When Nikita Khrushchev (1894-1971) assumed the post of Soviet Premier following the death of Stalin in 1953, opposition to Lysenko began to grow. Khrushchev eventually stated that under Lysenko, "Soviet agricultural research spent over 30 years in darkness." In 1964, Lysenko's doctrines were discredited, and intensive efforts made toward the reestablishing of Mendelian genetics and bringing Soviet agricultural, biological, and genetics research into conformity with Western nations.
Ultimately, the rejection of Lysenkoism was a victory for empirical evidence. Science also triumphed over Lysenkoism because there was a manifest rejection of incorporating Marxist rhetoric into the language and theoretical underpinning of genetics.
--
http://alt.hobart.k12.in.us/jkousen/Biology/mendel.htm
https://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~mcclean/plsc431/mendel/mendel1.htm
https://www.encyclopedia.com/science/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/disastrous-effects-lysenkoism-soviet-agriculture
4 March 2018 14:39
Margus Meigo commented on Janika Metsallik's photo.
Elulaadikeskus? :)
4 March 2018 06:21
Margus Meigo commented on Janika Metsallik's photo.
kuninglik
Õnnelikud kes sellise koha enda südames leidnud, kus lõpuni kasvada
Õnnelikud kes sellise koha enda südames leidnud, kus lõpuni kasvada
4 March 2018 06:18
Margus Meigo commented on Janika Metsallik's photo.
Kuidas Leonil läheb?
4 March 2018 06:14
Margus Meigo commented on Janika Metsallik's post.
karm
4 March 2018 06:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
my self would also not mind to get my physical bitcoin back that was lost , first series of physical coins... left in UK .. in early stage of development..
4 March 2018 05:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
...just remember, gov it self, worked on it...over 20 y ago..
4 March 2018 05:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Talking about block-chain regulation & bank of England now
4 March 2018 05:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ahh..ei jõudnud ka..liialt palju väheolulist käsil mis aja võttis, et valmistuda oluliseks
warsti 6.15, aeg tududa
warsti 6.15, aeg tududa
4 March 2018 05:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
for short period at least
still, to many ties...
but can be good addition to theme based news, minus a war and propaganda about things that viewers will not be planned to give info so it would be possible to understand what was seen.
is good enough for now, if is understood, WHY what i shown..
still, to many ties...
but can be good addition to theme based news, minus a war and propaganda about things that viewers will not be planned to give info so it would be possible to understand what was seen.
is good enough for now, if is understood, WHY what i shown..
4 March 2018 05:40
Margus Meigo replied to Ivar Kont's comment.
aa see kolmas, nu lenljas liin kasvõi,
to siis päris lauljate ja planeerijatega sidet ja võrku hoiab,
neid otside,s turgutades, prmodes vabast ajast ja omakorda esimese salga inimestele, kes asjapulkadega tegelvad, neile neid soovitada, et näitamaks mis on päris
to siis päris lauljate ja planeerijatega sidet ja võrku hoiab,
neid otside,s turgutades, prmodes vabast ajast ja omakorda esimese salga inimestele, kes asjapulkadega tegelvad, neile neid soovitada, et näitamaks mis on päris
4 March 2018 03:22
Margus Meigo replied to Ivar Kont's comment.
selliste asjade osas tuleb kodaniku algatus teha ja 3 me liiniline,
üks prof lobitöölised kes kõik muusika ja riigi targad ette võtavad, neile selgitamaks, et mida teha proovime ja mida tehakse, ja kas sba korda see as või mitte
ja siis üks salk nende väärlauluga seotud iniemstele kontakit võtmaks
selgitamaks... ja ärritmaas neid suts nii ,et taolised ise vähem tahaks tulla sinna võõrkeeles inisema ja tinistama.
ja kolmas siis .. (algselt misit muud oli plaanis, kuid) see muu interneti ja avalikumeedia osas peaks teavitustööd tegema, meelsust õigesti avaldama ja komentaaridele vastama ,selgitama, kõikides kohtades kus seda rõvedust või muidu nõrka muusikat jagatakse.
Ma seda saadet ainult vilksamisi vaatasin, igakord oli tunne,et edasi ei thaa vaadata... seega pole aimu, mis sääl veel toimus, et kas päris pahasi asju ka oli... kuid ebasobilike oli kohe kindlasti
ku isedasi mitu aastaaega peale sõita järjepidevalt, õigete keskorg järgi, siis tulemus on ilmselgelt hea,
aga enamus lehed ja kesksed org. siin netis tunduvad, et toimivad alla 5 aasta,
siis suudetakse lagundada enne kui juhtimine järgmistele asjalikeleedasi anda
üks prof lobitöölised kes kõik muusika ja riigi targad ette võtavad, neile selgitamaks, et mida teha proovime ja mida tehakse, ja kas sba korda see as või mitte
ja siis üks salk nende väärlauluga seotud iniemstele kontakit võtmaks
selgitamaks... ja ärritmaas neid suts nii ,et taolised ise vähem tahaks tulla sinna võõrkeeles inisema ja tinistama.
ja kolmas siis .. (algselt misit muud oli plaanis, kuid) see muu interneti ja avalikumeedia osas peaks teavitustööd tegema, meelsust õigesti avaldama ja komentaaridele vastama ,selgitama, kõikides kohtades kus seda rõvedust või muidu nõrka muusikat jagatakse.
Ma seda saadet ainult vilksamisi vaatasin, igakord oli tunne,et edasi ei thaa vaadata... seega pole aimu, mis sääl veel toimus, et kas päris pahasi asju ka oli... kuid ebasobilike oli kohe kindlasti
ku isedasi mitu aastaaega peale sõita järjepidevalt, õigete keskorg järgi, siis tulemus on ilmselgelt hea,
aga enamus lehed ja kesksed org. siin netis tunduvad, et toimivad alla 5 aasta,
siis suudetakse lagundada enne kui juhtimine järgmistele asjalikeleedasi anda
4 March 2018 03:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid pätt ise oli vähemalt pooletoobine mitte puhta loll, st, ise ütles, et talle tuleb politsei kutsuda,
et ikka niipalju arusaamist oli
et ikka niipalju arusaamist oli
4 March 2018 03:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja nagu eip küsitud laamendaja kirjeldust ka
hmm
ikka tarvis oleks ,oletavaks profiilimiseks kui sarnased kollitamised tihedaks muutuvad ju
hmm
ikka tarvis oleks ,oletavaks profiilimiseks kui sarnased kollitamised tihedaks muutuvad ju
4 March 2018 03:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Sisekaitseakadeemia avatud akadeemia pakub võimalusi elukestvaks õppeks sisejulgeoleku aktuaalsetel teemadel.
Sisekaitseakadeemia on õppetöö läbiviimisesse kaasanud palju tunnustatud erialaeksperte nii Eestist kui välisriikidest. Et seda kompetentsi võimalikult laiale ringkonnale jagada ning toetada valdkonnaga seotud isikuid elukestval õppel, pakume Avatud akadeemia raames võimalust saada osa Sisekaitseakadeemia (SKA) poolt korraldatavatest ainetest, koolitustest ning sündmustest ka neil, kes ei ole seotud ühegi SKA õppekavaga.
Avatud akadeemia võimaldab
osalemist avatud ainetes
osalemist vabakuulajana sisejulgeoleku magistriõppe jm tasemeõppe valik- ja vabaainetes.
Avatud ainetes saab osa arvamusavaldustest ning aruteludest teemadel, mis ei ole seotud SKA õppekavadega, kuid on aktuaalsed sisejulgeoleku valdkonna mõistmise ja arendamise seisukohalt.
Tasemeõppe raames toimuvas õppetöös osalemiseks on vabakuulajal kaks võimalust:
osaleb õppetöös ning sooritab iseseisvaid töid kokkuleppel õppejõuga. Aine positiivsel läbimisel (sh arvestuse või eksami sooritamine positiivsele tulemusele) väljastatakse vabakuulajale SKA täiendkoolituse tunnistus. Saavutatud punkte on võimalik varasema õpi- ja töökogemuse arvestuse (VÕTA) kaudu üle kanda hilisemal õppimisel sisejulgeolekualases magistriõppes.
osaleb õppetöös, kuid ei soorita arvestust või eksamit aine lõppedes. Antud juhul ei väljastata vabakuulajale tunnistust.
Ainetes osalemine on tasuline.
Sisekaitseakadeemia on õppetöö läbiviimisesse kaasanud palju tunnustatud erialaeksperte nii Eestist kui välisriikidest. Et seda kompetentsi võimalikult laiale ringkonnale jagada ning toetada valdkonnaga seotud isikuid elukestval õppel, pakume Avatud akadeemia raames võimalust saada osa Sisekaitseakadeemia (SKA) poolt korraldatavatest ainetest, koolitustest ning sündmustest ka neil, kes ei ole seotud ühegi SKA õppekavaga.
Avatud akadeemia võimaldab
osalemist avatud ainetes
osalemist vabakuulajana sisejulgeoleku magistriõppe jm tasemeõppe valik- ja vabaainetes.
Avatud ainetes saab osa arvamusavaldustest ning aruteludest teemadel, mis ei ole seotud SKA õppekavadega, kuid on aktuaalsed sisejulgeoleku valdkonna mõistmise ja arendamise seisukohalt.
Tasemeõppe raames toimuvas õppetöös osalemiseks on vabakuulajal kaks võimalust:
osaleb õppetöös ning sooritab iseseisvaid töid kokkuleppel õppejõuga. Aine positiivsel läbimisel (sh arvestuse või eksami sooritamine positiivsele tulemusele) väljastatakse vabakuulajale SKA täiendkoolituse tunnistus. Saavutatud punkte on võimalik varasema õpi- ja töökogemuse arvestuse (VÕTA) kaudu üle kanda hilisemal õppimisel sisejulgeolekualases magistriõppes.
osaleb õppetöös, kuid ei soorita arvestust või eksamit aine lõppedes. Antud juhul ei väljastata vabakuulajale tunnistust.
Ainetes osalemine on tasuline.
4 March 2018 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Huvitav, kas need koolitused on kõigile avatud, päris huvitavaid, neid võiks reklaamida laiemalt:
https://www.sisekaitse.ee/et/koolituskataloog
Automaatsed tulekahjusignalisatsioonisüsteemid
Avaliku teenistuse eetika
Elekter kui tulekahju põhjustaja
Elektriohutus kodudes
Esmaabi baaskoolitus
Haldusmenetlus ja haldusakti koostamine
Hariduselu kvaliteediga seotud kutseväärikuse edendamine ja korruptsiooniriskide ennetamine Eesti üld- ja kutsehariduskoolide juhtimises
Hoonetele esitatavad tuleohutusnõuded.
Inglise keel ametikeelena sisejulgeoleku valdkonna töötajatele
Isikuandmete kaitse üldpõhimõtted ja lähiaja muutused
Kaalutlusmenetluse efektiivsem rakendamine haldusmenetluses
Karistusõiguse üldosa ja süütegude menetlus
Korrakaitseametniku 5. taseme kutseeksamiks ettevalmistav koolitus
Korrakaitseseadus ja haldusmenetlus
Korruptsiooni ennetamine avalikus sektoris
Kuriteoohvrite sensitiivne kohtlemine
Kütteseadmete tuleohutus
Laste küsitlemine
Meditsiiniline abi kitsastes tingimustes (Confined space medicine course)
Menetlusdokumentide vormistamine väärteomenetluses
Õigus mittejuristidele ehk seaduse lugemise õpetus
Perevägivalla tekkepõhjused ja selle mõistmine
Raske kliendiga suhtlemine ja konfliktsed olukorrad järelevalve käigus
Riiklik järelevalve KorS-i ja HMS-i valguses
Sisserändaja riskikäitumise ennetamine
Sotsiaalprogrammi „Viha juhtimine“ treenerite koolitus
Suitsuandurite ja tulekustutite erilahendused
Sündmuskoha vaatlus
Tänased noored ja noorsootöö
Teabe avalikustamine ja teabele juurdepääsu piiramine
Tõendite kogumise õiguslik raamistik (haldus- ja väärteomenetluses)
Tuleohutuspaigaldised, nende inspekteerimine ja nõuetelevastavuse tõendamine
Tuleohutuspaigaldised, nende toimimise põhimõtted ja korrashoid
Turvaline suhtlemine
Ülekuulamistaktika
Uute kohaliku omavalitsuse ametnike ja töötajate sisseelamiskoolitus
Uute riigiametnike ja töötajate sisseelamiskoolitus
XVR simulaatori koolitus tase 1
Pagination
https://www.sisekaitse.ee/et/koolituskataloog
Automaatsed tulekahjusignalisatsioonisüsteemid
Avaliku teenistuse eetika
Elekter kui tulekahju põhjustaja
Elektriohutus kodudes
Esmaabi baaskoolitus
Haldusmenetlus ja haldusakti koostamine
Hariduselu kvaliteediga seotud kutseväärikuse edendamine ja korruptsiooniriskide ennetamine Eesti üld- ja kutsehariduskoolide juhtimises
Hoonetele esitatavad tuleohutusnõuded.
Inglise keel ametikeelena sisejulgeoleku valdkonna töötajatele
Isikuandmete kaitse üldpõhimõtted ja lähiaja muutused
Kaalutlusmenetluse efektiivsem rakendamine haldusmenetluses
Karistusõiguse üldosa ja süütegude menetlus
Korrakaitseametniku 5. taseme kutseeksamiks ettevalmistav koolitus
Korrakaitseseadus ja haldusmenetlus
Korruptsiooni ennetamine avalikus sektoris
Kuriteoohvrite sensitiivne kohtlemine
Kütteseadmete tuleohutus
Laste küsitlemine
Meditsiiniline abi kitsastes tingimustes (Confined space medicine course)
Menetlusdokumentide vormistamine väärteomenetluses
Õigus mittejuristidele ehk seaduse lugemise õpetus
Perevägivalla tekkepõhjused ja selle mõistmine
Raske kliendiga suhtlemine ja konfliktsed olukorrad järelevalve käigus
Riiklik järelevalve KorS-i ja HMS-i valguses
Sisserändaja riskikäitumise ennetamine
Sotsiaalprogrammi „Viha juhtimine“ treenerite koolitus
Suitsuandurite ja tulekustutite erilahendused
Sündmuskoha vaatlus
Tänased noored ja noorsootöö
Teabe avalikustamine ja teabele juurdepääsu piiramine
Tõendite kogumise õiguslik raamistik (haldus- ja väärteomenetluses)
Tuleohutuspaigaldised, nende inspekteerimine ja nõuetelevastavuse tõendamine
Tuleohutuspaigaldised, nende toimimise põhimõtted ja korrashoid
Turvaline suhtlemine
Ülekuulamistaktika
Uute kohaliku omavalitsuse ametnike ja töötajate sisseelamiskoolitus
Uute riigiametnike ja töötajate sisseelamiskoolitus
XVR simulaatori koolitus tase 1
Pagination
https://www.sisekaitse.ee/et/koolituskataloog
4 March 2018 03:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja lihtsalt kurb, et Vaene Paite politsei peab üle poole tunni sõitma, et kedagi jobudikku kantseldada,
samalajal kui kaitseliit siit üle tee, ja nad oleks võinud siia 5 minutiga jalutada.
Kuigi, ega neilgi inimesi vist pole... kuid kas KAITSELIITLASI siis pole Türil v??
Kui nende linas minig päät ebakodumaiselt siis selle KODUKOHA inimesed peaks eismesed olema, kes enda kodukaitse asja korda tegema saadavad.
Igas kodukandis peaks olema arusaam, et kergelt saab tuupi kohalike käest kui pätitsema hakata ja kui kohalik oled, kes sitasti käitud, siis veel eriti hoolikalt seda asja vaadatakse.. aks üldse tahetakse, et selline siin elab ja elu kibedaks teha,
ja kui maapiiirkonnas tülitada taate, siis võiks olla kindel teamdine,et tina võib saada.
See mudugi jälle teeb asja ohtlikuks, kui pätid eraldi relvasaamise eesmärgil taludesse isse murdma hakkaks..
// kuid eks neid tlausi juba kubinal, mis sadades tühjades külades (viimase statistika järgi) omab palju tyhje maju.. kus pole mingi häda kellegil kambas v muidu elada ja puid kütta..
röövrekedel kodukohast eemal käia..
mis turvatunne Eesitmaa kodanikelsaab olla, et need asjad õiglaselt ,üle selle väikesemaa siin on jälgitud, et kuskil valed sigima eip hakkaks?
samalajal kui kaitseliit siit üle tee, ja nad oleks võinud siia 5 minutiga jalutada.
Kuigi, ega neilgi inimesi vist pole... kuid kas KAITSELIITLASI siis pole Türil v??
Kui nende linas minig päät ebakodumaiselt siis selle KODUKOHA inimesed peaks eismesed olema, kes enda kodukaitse asja korda tegema saadavad.
Igas kodukandis peaks olema arusaam, et kergelt saab tuupi kohalike käest kui pätitsema hakata ja kui kohalik oled, kes sitasti käitud, siis veel eriti hoolikalt seda asja vaadatakse.. aks üldse tahetakse, et selline siin elab ja elu kibedaks teha,
ja kui maapiiirkonnas tülitada taate, siis võiks olla kindel teamdine,et tina võib saada.
See mudugi jälle teeb asja ohtlikuks, kui pätid eraldi relvasaamise eesmärgil taludesse isse murdma hakkaks..
// kuid eks neid tlausi juba kubinal, mis sadades tühjades külades (viimase statistika järgi) omab palju tyhje maju.. kus pole mingi häda kellegil kambas v muidu elada ja puid kütta..
röövrekedel kodukohast eemal käia..
mis turvatunne Eesitmaa kodanikelsaab olla, et need asjad õiglaselt ,üle selle väikesemaa siin on jälgitud, et kuskil valed sigima eip hakkaks?
4 March 2018 02:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
NU siiani pole tagasisidet ka tulnud peale teist helistamist, et kas saadi pätt kätte või luurab ta kuskil uksetaga, jõuti kohale ja fixeeriti olukord või mitte.
Nu kuidas sedasi inimesed teadma peaks, et mis toimub ?
Ja kas neil telefonidel ID salvestus tehnoloogiat pole mis profiili ülesse tiriks kes helistab, koos elementaarse hääletuvastusega ehk tulevikuski, see pool tasuta tehnoloogia.
Ses osas, kui oled sama numbripealt helistnaud, siis solvav on, et uuesti küsitakse sedasi aastarve jms,
Võiks natukene turvalisust valistusasutused näidata, ja kinnitatud numbrite korral mis EE portaaliski kirjas, natuke kindlamalt inimese poole pöörduda, ... suht ebakindla mulje jätab politsei kesk agentuur kui neile helistades nad ei tea, kes see on. et kui algelised need süsteemid on.
Nu kuidas sedasi inimesed teadma peaks, et mis toimub ?
Ja kas neil telefonidel ID salvestus tehnoloogiat pole mis profiili ülesse tiriks kes helistab, koos elementaarse hääletuvastusega ehk tulevikuski, see pool tasuta tehnoloogia.
Ses osas, kui oled sama numbripealt helistnaud, siis solvav on, et uuesti küsitakse sedasi aastarve jms,
Võiks natukene turvalisust valistusasutused näidata, ja kinnitatud numbrite korral mis EE portaaliski kirjas, natuke kindlamalt inimese poole pöörduda, ... suht ebakindla mulje jätab politsei kesk agentuur kui neile helistades nad ei tea, kes see on. et kui algelised need süsteemid on.
4 March 2018 02:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nüüd selle peale teen ühe piibu Rohelist, ja mõtlen, kuidas meie riigi korrakaitset veel aidata, lisaks selle informatsiooni jagamisele
4 March 2018 02:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kasutatud materialid III
Quentin Skinneri, „Riik" (2002) Kaasaegne poliitiline filosoofia valik esseesid. Lipping, J. koostatud ja toimetatud
Reich, R.B. (1997) Piirideta maailm. Fontes
Rotterdam Charter: Policing for Multi-Ethnic Societies. Roterdam Charter kodulehelt, http://www.rotterdamcharter.nl/sites/charter/files/site49_20050603092740_Rotterdam_Charter_(english).pdf, välja otsitud 16.06.2011
Ruts, R. 2004. Europe as a whole; developing common principles and practices in public policing, lk 9-30. Kogumik: Moving Forward With Community Policing in Europe. Edited by Sirpa Virta. Tampereen Yliopistopaino Oy: Tampere
Safer Neighbourhoods. Londoni politsei koduleht, http://www.met.police.uk/saferneighbourhoods/involved.htm, välja otsitud 17.06.2011
Safety and Security Walks. 2009. Rootsi kriminaalpreventsiooni nõukogu kodulehelt, http://www.bra.se/extra/measurepoint/?module_instance=4&name=Safety_and_security_walks.pdf&url=/dynamaster/file_archive/091105/94e6b46fd030cad9d0503ab449d5c937/Safety%255fand%255fsecurity%255fwalks.pdf, välja otsitud 23.03.2011
Saunders, C.. 2002. Federalism, Decentralisation and Conflict Management in Multicultural Societies. Konverentsi kokkuvõte lk 66-73. The Forum of Federations kodulehelt, http://www.forumfed.org/libdocs/IntConfFed02/StG-Saunders.pdf , välja otsitud 16.06.2011
Scheye, E. 2009. State-Provided Service, Contracting Out, and Non-State Networks: Justice and Security as Public and Private Goods and Services. OECD kodulehelt, http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/43/8/43599221.pdf, välja otsitud 17.06.2011
Schwemer, H. (2004) Põhiseaduse nõuded politseiõigusele. Juridica VII/2004
Singh, J. Community Policing in the Context of Singapore. 126 resource material series no. 56. The United Nations Asia and Far East Institute for the Prevention of Crime and the Treatment of Offenders (UNAFEI) kodulehelt, http://www.unafei.or.jp/english/pdf/PDF_rms/no56/56-11.pdf , välja otsitud 03.03.2011
Sinisalo, K. (1972) Poliisin toimivallan määräytyminen. Lähipolitsei kui lähenemisviis. Toim. Kiehelä, H ja Virta, S. Politseiõpik. Sisekaitseakadeemia. Tallinn: Siseakadeemia kirjastus
Sisäisen turvallisuuden ohjelma. Valtioneuvoston periaatepäätös, Sisäasiainministeriön julkaisuja 16/2008. http://www.intermin.fi/intermin/hankkeet/turva/home.nsf/files/162008/$file/162008.pdf
Skogan, W. 1994. Community Participation and Community Policing. Northwestern University kodulehelt, http://www.northwestern.edu/ipr/publications/policing_papers/caps4.pdf , välja otsitud 02.04.2011
Skogan,W., & Hartnett, S. M. (1997). Community policing, Chicago style. New York: Oxford University Press.
Suve, P. (2011) Politsei areng läbi aegade. Riigikogu Toimetised 23. Ühiskondlik-poliitiline ajakiri
Šveitsi selgroog on isetegevus. Intervjuu Šveitsi aupeakonsul Matti Klaariga. Ajakiri Kultuur & Elu 2/2003. http://kultuur.elu.ee/ke472_switzerland.htm
The National Security Strategy of the United Kingdom. Security in an interdependent world. 2008. UK Cabinet Office koduleht, http://interactive.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/documents/security/national_security_strategy.pdf, välja otsitud 16.06.2011
Trojanowicz, R. C., & Bucqueroux, B. (1990). Community policing: A contemporary perspective. Cincinnati, OH: Anderson
Turvallisuussuunnitelmat 2001 Arviointiraportti. Sisäasiainministeriö Poliisiosaston julkaisu 6/2002
Vennikas, P. (2004) Korrakaitsestruktuuride ja vabatahtlike koostöö avaliku korra kaitsel. Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, magistritöö
Vetik, R. (2009) rahvuslik julgeolek ja ühiskonna tunnustamiskultuur / kogumikus Euroopaliku kodanikeriigi väljakutsed. Acta Politica nr 3. TLÜ Riigiteaduste Instituudi väljaanne www.rto.tlu.ee
Virta,S. (2000) Lähipolitsei ja ühiskond. Lähipolitsei ühiskondliku tähenduse hindamine/ Lähipolitsei kui lähenemisviis. Politseiõpik. Sisekaitseakadeemia. Tallinn: Sisekaitseakadeemia kirjastus
Quentin Skinneri, „Riik" (2002) Kaasaegne poliitiline filosoofia valik esseesid. Lipping, J. koostatud ja toimetatud
Reich, R.B. (1997) Piirideta maailm. Fontes
Rotterdam Charter: Policing for Multi-Ethnic Societies. Roterdam Charter kodulehelt, http://www.rotterdamcharter.nl/sites/charter/files/site49_20050603092740_Rotterdam_Charter_(english).pdf, välja otsitud 16.06.2011
Ruts, R. 2004. Europe as a whole; developing common principles and practices in public policing, lk 9-30. Kogumik: Moving Forward With Community Policing in Europe. Edited by Sirpa Virta. Tampereen Yliopistopaino Oy: Tampere
Safer Neighbourhoods. Londoni politsei koduleht, http://www.met.police.uk/saferneighbourhoods/involved.htm, välja otsitud 17.06.2011
Safety and Security Walks. 2009. Rootsi kriminaalpreventsiooni nõukogu kodulehelt, http://www.bra.se/extra/measurepoint/?module_instance=4&name=Safety_and_security_walks.pdf&url=/dynamaster/file_archive/091105/94e6b46fd030cad9d0503ab449d5c937/Safety%255fand%255fsecurity%255fwalks.pdf, välja otsitud 23.03.2011
Saunders, C.. 2002. Federalism, Decentralisation and Conflict Management in Multicultural Societies. Konverentsi kokkuvõte lk 66-73. The Forum of Federations kodulehelt, http://www.forumfed.org/libdocs/IntConfFed02/StG-Saunders.pdf , välja otsitud 16.06.2011
Scheye, E. 2009. State-Provided Service, Contracting Out, and Non-State Networks: Justice and Security as Public and Private Goods and Services. OECD kodulehelt, http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/43/8/43599221.pdf, välja otsitud 17.06.2011
Schwemer, H. (2004) Põhiseaduse nõuded politseiõigusele. Juridica VII/2004
Singh, J. Community Policing in the Context of Singapore. 126 resource material series no. 56. The United Nations Asia and Far East Institute for the Prevention of Crime and the Treatment of Offenders (UNAFEI) kodulehelt, http://www.unafei.or.jp/english/pdf/PDF_rms/no56/56-11.pdf , välja otsitud 03.03.2011
Sinisalo, K. (1972) Poliisin toimivallan määräytyminen. Lähipolitsei kui lähenemisviis. Toim. Kiehelä, H ja Virta, S. Politseiõpik. Sisekaitseakadeemia. Tallinn: Siseakadeemia kirjastus
Sisäisen turvallisuuden ohjelma. Valtioneuvoston periaatepäätös, Sisäasiainministeriön julkaisuja 16/2008. http://www.intermin.fi/intermin/hankkeet/turva/home.nsf/files/162008/$file/162008.pdf
Skogan, W. 1994. Community Participation and Community Policing. Northwestern University kodulehelt, http://www.northwestern.edu/ipr/publications/policing_papers/caps4.pdf , välja otsitud 02.04.2011
Skogan,W., & Hartnett, S. M. (1997). Community policing, Chicago style. New York: Oxford University Press.
Suve, P. (2011) Politsei areng läbi aegade. Riigikogu Toimetised 23. Ühiskondlik-poliitiline ajakiri
Šveitsi selgroog on isetegevus. Intervjuu Šveitsi aupeakonsul Matti Klaariga. Ajakiri Kultuur & Elu 2/2003. http://kultuur.elu.ee/ke472_switzerland.htm
The National Security Strategy of the United Kingdom. Security in an interdependent world. 2008. UK Cabinet Office koduleht, http://interactive.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/documents/security/national_security_strategy.pdf, välja otsitud 16.06.2011
Trojanowicz, R. C., & Bucqueroux, B. (1990). Community policing: A contemporary perspective. Cincinnati, OH: Anderson
Turvallisuussuunnitelmat 2001 Arviointiraportti. Sisäasiainministeriö Poliisiosaston julkaisu 6/2002
Vennikas, P. (2004) Korrakaitsestruktuuride ja vabatahtlike koostöö avaliku korra kaitsel. Tallinna Tehnikaülikool, magistritöö
Vetik, R. (2009) rahvuslik julgeolek ja ühiskonna tunnustamiskultuur / kogumikus Euroopaliku kodanikeriigi väljakutsed. Acta Politica nr 3. TLÜ Riigiteaduste Instituudi väljaanne www.rto.tlu.ee
Virta,S. (2000) Lähipolitsei ja ühiskond. Lähipolitsei ühiskondliku tähenduse hindamine/ Lähipolitsei kui lähenemisviis. Politseiõpik. Sisekaitseakadeemia. Tallinn: Sisekaitseakadeemia kirjastus
http://www.rotterdamcharter.nl/sites/charter/files/site49_20050603092740_Rotterdam_Charter_(english).pdf
4 March 2018 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kasutatud materialid II
European Security Strategy. A Secure Europe in a Better World. 2003. EL nõukogu lehelt http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cmsUpload/78367.pdf, välja otsitud 16.06.2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11559451, välja otsitud 16.06.2011
Jaanimägi, K. (2004) Politsei sisemise rahu tagajana. Juridica VII/2004.
Kaasik, J. (2008) Kogukonnakeskne politseitöö. Ülevaade teooriast ja praktikast. Sisekaitseakadeemia
Kærgård, N. (2010) Social cohesion and the transformation from ethnic to multicultural society: The Case of Denmark http://etn.sagepub.com/content/10/4/470 Sage (välja otsitud 14.03.2011)
Kalev, L. (2009) Tugeva riigi vaimsed alused. Eesti riigiidentiteet euroopaliku riigiehituse valguses. / kogumikus Euroopaliku kodanikeriigi väljakutsed. Acta Politica nr 3. TLÜ Riigiteaduste Instituudi väljaanne www.rto.tlu.ee
Kekkonen, U. (1929) Itävallan valtiollinen poliisi 1800-luvun vaihteessa. http://www.doria.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/11552/TMP.objres.4448.html?sequence=1
kodanikuühiskonna arengu kontseptsioon. http://www.siseministeerium.ee/30410/
Kodanikuühiskonna arengukava 2011-2014. http://www.siseministeerium.ee/kodar/
Kriminaalpoliitika arengusuunad aastani 2018. RTIII, 18.06.2010, 26, 51
Laitinen, A. (2000) Lähipolitseitegevuse mõistelised ja teoreetilised alused/ Lähipolitsei kui lähenemisviis. Politseiõpik. Sisekaitseakadeemia. Tallinn: Sisekaitseakadeemia kirjastus
Lepa, R. Illing, E. Kasemets, A. Lepp, Ü. Kallaste, E. (2004). Kaasamine otsuste tegemise protsessi. Poliitikauuringute Keskus PRAXIS, Tallinn
Lähipolitsei kui lähenemisviis (2000). Toim. Kiehelä, H ja Virta, S. Politseiõpik. Sisekaitseakadeemia. Tallinn: Siseakadeemia kirjastus
Masini, E. (2011) Towards multicultural societies: The European experience. http://csi.sagepub.com/content/59/2/229 Sage (välja otsitud 14.03.2011)
Merkel says German multicultural society has failed. 17.10.2010. BBC kodulehelt,
Michael M. Wehrman & Joseph De Angelis (2011) Citizen Willingness to Participate in Police-Community Partnerships: Exploring the Influence of Race and Neighborhood Context. Police Quarterly 14(1) 48-69
Northern Ireland Policing Board. Kodulehelt, http://www.nipolicingboard.org.uk/index/theboard.htm , välja otsitud 17.06.2011
Oliver, W.M. (2007) Community-Oriented Policing: A Systemic Approach to Policing
Pasquino, P: Theatrum Politicum: TheGenealogy of Capital - Police and the State of Prosperity. Teoksessa Burchell ym. (ed) The Foucault Effect. Studies in Governmentality. Harvester & Wheatshealf 1991. Lähipolitsei kui lähenemisviis. Toim. Kiehelä, H ja Virta, S. Politseiõpik. Sisekaitseakadeemia. Tallinn: Siseakadeemia kirjastus
Peak, K.J., Glensor, R.W. 1996. Community Policing & Problem Solving. Strategies & Practises. New Jersey: Prentice Hall
Police of Japan 2010. Jaapani politsei kodulehelt, http://www.npa.go.jp/english/kokusai/POJ2010.pdf, välja otsitud 03.03.2011
Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill. 2011. Briti parlamendi kodulehelt, http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/lbill/2010-2012/0077/2012077.pdf, välja otsitud 17.06.2011.
Policing in the 21st Century: Reconnecting police and people. 2010. Home Office kodulehelt, http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/consultations/policing-21st-century/policing-21st-full-pdf?view=Binary, välja otsitud 16.06.2011
Politsei ja piirivalve seadus, RT I 2009, 26, 159
European Security Strategy. A Secure Europe in a Better World. 2003. EL nõukogu lehelt http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cmsUpload/78367.pdf, välja otsitud 16.06.2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11559451, välja otsitud 16.06.2011
Jaanimägi, K. (2004) Politsei sisemise rahu tagajana. Juridica VII/2004.
Kaasik, J. (2008) Kogukonnakeskne politseitöö. Ülevaade teooriast ja praktikast. Sisekaitseakadeemia
Kærgård, N. (2010) Social cohesion and the transformation from ethnic to multicultural society: The Case of Denmark http://etn.sagepub.com/content/10/4/470 Sage (välja otsitud 14.03.2011)
Kalev, L. (2009) Tugeva riigi vaimsed alused. Eesti riigiidentiteet euroopaliku riigiehituse valguses. / kogumikus Euroopaliku kodanikeriigi väljakutsed. Acta Politica nr 3. TLÜ Riigiteaduste Instituudi väljaanne www.rto.tlu.ee
Kekkonen, U. (1929) Itävallan valtiollinen poliisi 1800-luvun vaihteessa. http://www.doria.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/11552/TMP.objres.4448.html?sequence=1
kodanikuühiskonna arengu kontseptsioon. http://www.siseministeerium.ee/30410/
Kodanikuühiskonna arengukava 2011-2014. http://www.siseministeerium.ee/kodar/
Kriminaalpoliitika arengusuunad aastani 2018. RTIII, 18.06.2010, 26, 51
Laitinen, A. (2000) Lähipolitseitegevuse mõistelised ja teoreetilised alused/ Lähipolitsei kui lähenemisviis. Politseiõpik. Sisekaitseakadeemia. Tallinn: Sisekaitseakadeemia kirjastus
Lepa, R. Illing, E. Kasemets, A. Lepp, Ü. Kallaste, E. (2004). Kaasamine otsuste tegemise protsessi. Poliitikauuringute Keskus PRAXIS, Tallinn
Lähipolitsei kui lähenemisviis (2000). Toim. Kiehelä, H ja Virta, S. Politseiõpik. Sisekaitseakadeemia. Tallinn: Siseakadeemia kirjastus
Masini, E. (2011) Towards multicultural societies: The European experience. http://csi.sagepub.com/content/59/2/229 Sage (välja otsitud 14.03.2011)
Merkel says German multicultural society has failed. 17.10.2010. BBC kodulehelt,
Michael M. Wehrman & Joseph De Angelis (2011) Citizen Willingness to Participate in Police-Community Partnerships: Exploring the Influence of Race and Neighborhood Context. Police Quarterly 14(1) 48-69
Northern Ireland Policing Board. Kodulehelt, http://www.nipolicingboard.org.uk/index/theboard.htm , välja otsitud 17.06.2011
Oliver, W.M. (2007) Community-Oriented Policing: A Systemic Approach to Policing
Pasquino, P: Theatrum Politicum: TheGenealogy of Capital - Police and the State of Prosperity. Teoksessa Burchell ym. (ed) The Foucault Effect. Studies in Governmentality. Harvester & Wheatshealf 1991. Lähipolitsei kui lähenemisviis. Toim. Kiehelä, H ja Virta, S. Politseiõpik. Sisekaitseakadeemia. Tallinn: Siseakadeemia kirjastus
Peak, K.J., Glensor, R.W. 1996. Community Policing & Problem Solving. Strategies & Practises. New Jersey: Prentice Hall
Police of Japan 2010. Jaapani politsei kodulehelt, http://www.npa.go.jp/english/kokusai/POJ2010.pdf, välja otsitud 03.03.2011
Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill. 2011. Briti parlamendi kodulehelt, http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/lbill/2010-2012/0077/2012077.pdf, välja otsitud 17.06.2011.
Policing in the 21st Century: Reconnecting police and people. 2010. Home Office kodulehelt, http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/consultations/policing-21st-century/policing-21st-full-pdf?view=Binary, välja otsitud 16.06.2011
Politsei ja piirivalve seadus, RT I 2009, 26, 159
http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cmsUpload/78367.pdf
4 March 2018 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Korralik töö, algautoritele austusavaldus.
kasutatud allikad
Abipolitseiniku seadus RT I, 20.12.2010, 1. https://www.riigiteataja.ee/akt/120122010001
Allison T. Chappell (2009) The Philosophical Versus Actual Adoption of Community Policing : A Case Study Criminal Justice Review Volume 34 Number 1
Auten, James H.: The Paramilitary Model of Police and Police Professionalism. Teoksessa Blumberg & Niederhoffer The Ambivalent Force, USA 1985. / Lähipolitsei kui lähenemisviis (2000) Toim. Kiehelä, H. ja Virta, S. Politseiõpik. Sisekaitseakadeemia. Tallinn: Siseakadeemia kirjastus
Blacki, J. (2004) Briti saarte ajalugu. Varrak
Brodeur, J.P. (2005) Trotsky in Blue: Permanent Policing Reform. Australian & New Zealand Journal of Criminology 38: 254:Sage
Bullock, K., Erol, R. Tilley, N. (2006) Problem- oriented Policing and partnerships. Implementing and evidence-based approach to crime reduction. Willan Publishing
Caatherine Denys (2010) The Development of Police Forces in Urban Europe in the Eighteenth Century. Journal of Urban History 36(3) 332-344
Clarke, R.V. ja Eck, J. (2006) Probleemikeskseks kriminaalanalüütikuks 55 lihtsa sammuga. Politseiõpik. Sisekaitseakadeemia
Cohen, Stanley (1985): Visions of Social Control. Polity Press, Cambridge. Lähipolitsei kui lähenemisviis. Toim. Kiehelä, H ja Virta, S. Politseiõpik. Sisekaitseakadeemia. Tallinn: Siseakadeemia kirjastus
Community Policing in Europe. De lectoraten van de Politiacademie. 2006. Apeldoorn: Politieacademie
Community Policing strategy. Strategic outlines and objectives of community policing and security cooperation development. Poliisin ylijohdon Julkaisusarja. Supreme Police Command. No 4/ 2007 Commitee`s final report (Drawing up preventive policing strategy- Martti Kunnasvuori, Sirpa Virta, Mikko Lampikoski, Matti Koski, Carina Öhrnberg)
Community Safety Partnership. London Borough of Richmond upon Thames kodulehelt, http://www.richmond.gov.uk/home/policing_and_public_safety/community_safety_partnership.htm, välja otsitud 17.06.2011
Competence of State, regional and local authorities. Partnership structures. European Forum for Urban Security kodulehelt, http://www.efus.eu/en/category/policies/national/denmark/, välja otsitud 17.06.2011
Eesti elanike teadlikkus ja hoiakud pagulasküsimustes. Kvantitatiiv- ja kvalitatiivuuringu aruanne. (2010) Tellija: Siseministeerium. Saar Poll ja Euroopa Pagulasfond www.saarpoll.ee
Eesti turvalisuspoliitika põhisuunad aastani 2015. RTI, 25.06.2008, 25, 165
Eesti turvalisuspoliitika põhisuunad aastani 2015.RT I, 25.06.2008, 25, 165 https://www.riigiteataja.ee/akt/12979629
Eesti Vabariigi julgeolekupoliitika alused. RTI, 21.06.2004, 49, 344
Eesti Vabariigi põhiseadus, RT 1992, 26, 349
Elias, N. (2007)Tsiviliseerumisprotsess II k. ühiskonna muutused. Ühe tsiviliseerumisteooria visand. Varrak
Erez, E., Finckenauer, J.O. and Ibarra P.R. Introduction: Policing a Multicultural Society. Police and Society No. 7, April 2003, pp. 5-12, Israeli politsei kodulehelt, http://www.police.gov.il/meida_laezrach/pirsomim/KitveiEt/DocLib/71.pdf, välja otsitud 15.06.2011
kasutatud allikad
Abipolitseiniku seadus RT I, 20.12.2010, 1. https://www.riigiteataja.ee/akt/120122010001
Allison T. Chappell (2009) The Philosophical Versus Actual Adoption of Community Policing : A Case Study Criminal Justice Review Volume 34 Number 1
Auten, James H.: The Paramilitary Model of Police and Police Professionalism. Teoksessa Blumberg & Niederhoffer The Ambivalent Force, USA 1985. / Lähipolitsei kui lähenemisviis (2000) Toim. Kiehelä, H. ja Virta, S. Politseiõpik. Sisekaitseakadeemia. Tallinn: Siseakadeemia kirjastus
Blacki, J. (2004) Briti saarte ajalugu. Varrak
Brodeur, J.P. (2005) Trotsky in Blue: Permanent Policing Reform. Australian & New Zealand Journal of Criminology 38: 254:Sage
Bullock, K., Erol, R. Tilley, N. (2006) Problem- oriented Policing and partnerships. Implementing and evidence-based approach to crime reduction. Willan Publishing
Caatherine Denys (2010) The Development of Police Forces in Urban Europe in the Eighteenth Century. Journal of Urban History 36(3) 332-344
Clarke, R.V. ja Eck, J. (2006) Probleemikeskseks kriminaalanalüütikuks 55 lihtsa sammuga. Politseiõpik. Sisekaitseakadeemia
Cohen, Stanley (1985): Visions of Social Control. Polity Press, Cambridge. Lähipolitsei kui lähenemisviis. Toim. Kiehelä, H ja Virta, S. Politseiõpik. Sisekaitseakadeemia. Tallinn: Siseakadeemia kirjastus
Community Policing in Europe. De lectoraten van de Politiacademie. 2006. Apeldoorn: Politieacademie
Community Policing strategy. Strategic outlines and objectives of community policing and security cooperation development. Poliisin ylijohdon Julkaisusarja. Supreme Police Command. No 4/ 2007 Commitee`s final report (Drawing up preventive policing strategy- Martti Kunnasvuori, Sirpa Virta, Mikko Lampikoski, Matti Koski, Carina Öhrnberg)
Community Safety Partnership. London Borough of Richmond upon Thames kodulehelt, http://www.richmond.gov.uk/home/policing_and_public_safety/community_safety_partnership.htm, välja otsitud 17.06.2011
Competence of State, regional and local authorities. Partnership structures. European Forum for Urban Security kodulehelt, http://www.efus.eu/en/category/policies/national/denmark/, välja otsitud 17.06.2011
Eesti elanike teadlikkus ja hoiakud pagulasküsimustes. Kvantitatiiv- ja kvalitatiivuuringu aruanne. (2010) Tellija: Siseministeerium. Saar Poll ja Euroopa Pagulasfond www.saarpoll.ee
Eesti turvalisuspoliitika põhisuunad aastani 2015. RTI, 25.06.2008, 25, 165
Eesti turvalisuspoliitika põhisuunad aastani 2015.RT I, 25.06.2008, 25, 165 https://www.riigiteataja.ee/akt/12979629
Eesti Vabariigi julgeolekupoliitika alused. RTI, 21.06.2004, 49, 344
Eesti Vabariigi põhiseadus, RT 1992, 26, 349
Elias, N. (2007)Tsiviliseerumisprotsess II k. ühiskonna muutused. Ühe tsiviliseerumisteooria visand. Varrak
Erez, E., Finckenauer, J.O. and Ibarra P.R. Introduction: Policing a Multicultural Society. Police and Society No. 7, April 2003, pp. 5-12, Israeli politsei kodulehelt, http://www.police.gov.il/meida_laezrach/pirsomim/KitveiEt/DocLib/71.pdf, välja otsitud 15.06.2011
https://www.riigiteataja.ee/akt/120122010001
4 March 2018 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Politsei koostöö kogukonnaga- võimalikud probleemid
Politsei koostöös kogukonnaga on mitmeid probleeme ja ohte. On arvamusi, et:
- Tegelikult ei ole võimalik kogukonda turvalisusprobleemide lahendamisse kaasata, kuna riik on selle ülesande pannud maksumaksja raha eest politseile;
- Kogukond ei soovi osaleda turvalisusküsimuste lahendamisel, kui see probleem neid isiklikult ei puuduta;
- Elanike osalemine korra tagamises võib olla tingitud vaid omakasupüüdlikest motiividest;
- Paljud kogukonnagrupid ei soovi üldse politsei kohalolu;
- Kogukonnad, kes kõige enam politseid vajaksid, on tegelikult kõige väiksema võimekusega temaga koostööd tegema (Walker 1992; Peak & Glensor 1996:260);
- Kogukonna „soove ja seisukohti" võivad esindada inimesed, kel tegelikult ei ole volitusi või keda kohalik kogukond ei aktsepteeri.
Vastuseks neile probleemidele võib väita:
Kogukonda ei saagi vaadata universaalse kogumina, kel kõigil ühised huvid. Ühisosa kõigi inimeste juures (olenemata sotsiaalsest kuuluvusest) on turvaline keskkond, kus elada ja aega veeta. Seda ühisosa on üldjuhul võimalik välja tuua nii, et kogu piirkond oleks asjast huvitatud ning seeläbi kaasata ka inimesi. Kogukonda saaks defineerida ka läbi probleemi, st. et lugeda selleks kõiki, kes kuidagi probleemist mõjutatud (Goldstein 1990; Peak & Glensor 1996:272). Eraisikuid, kohalikke ettevõtteid ja asutusi tuleb motiveerida läbi turvalisusideede „müümise". Selgelt tuleb välja tuua kasu, mida üks või teine partner asjast saab. Võimalusel tuleks see ümber arvestada rahasse.
Kokkuvõtteks võib öelda, et politsei koostöö ja partnerlus erinevate osapooltega on kõikjal maailmas kogukonnakeskse ideoloogia lahutamatu osa. Koostööd tehakse nii indiviidide kui ka organisatsioonide tasandil. Vabatahtlikel on samuti pea kõigis riikides politseitegevuses ühel või teisel moel osaleda. Paljudes riikides on osa koostöö ja partnerluse vorme seadusega määratletud. Mõnedes riikides on koostöö põhimõtted määratletud riiklike tegevuskavade, strateegiate jms kaudu. Mõnel pool on koostöö korraldus jäetud politsei enda otsustada.
Partnerluses võib eristada selle kolme põhivormi: konsulteeriv, ekspertide ja järelevalvav partnerlus. Mõnes riigis on esindatud kõik kolm, kuid valdavalt on levinud ekspertide partnerlus, mis on segunenud konsulteeriva partnerlusega.
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/politsei_koost_kogukonnaga_vimalikud_probleemid.html
Politsei koostöös kogukonnaga on mitmeid probleeme ja ohte. On arvamusi, et:
- Tegelikult ei ole võimalik kogukonda turvalisusprobleemide lahendamisse kaasata, kuna riik on selle ülesande pannud maksumaksja raha eest politseile;
- Kogukond ei soovi osaleda turvalisusküsimuste lahendamisel, kui see probleem neid isiklikult ei puuduta;
- Elanike osalemine korra tagamises võib olla tingitud vaid omakasupüüdlikest motiividest;
- Paljud kogukonnagrupid ei soovi üldse politsei kohalolu;
- Kogukonnad, kes kõige enam politseid vajaksid, on tegelikult kõige väiksema võimekusega temaga koostööd tegema (Walker 1992; Peak & Glensor 1996:260);
- Kogukonna „soove ja seisukohti" võivad esindada inimesed, kel tegelikult ei ole volitusi või keda kohalik kogukond ei aktsepteeri.
Vastuseks neile probleemidele võib väita:
Kogukonda ei saagi vaadata universaalse kogumina, kel kõigil ühised huvid. Ühisosa kõigi inimeste juures (olenemata sotsiaalsest kuuluvusest) on turvaline keskkond, kus elada ja aega veeta. Seda ühisosa on üldjuhul võimalik välja tuua nii, et kogu piirkond oleks asjast huvitatud ning seeläbi kaasata ka inimesi. Kogukonda saaks defineerida ka läbi probleemi, st. et lugeda selleks kõiki, kes kuidagi probleemist mõjutatud (Goldstein 1990; Peak & Glensor 1996:272). Eraisikuid, kohalikke ettevõtteid ja asutusi tuleb motiveerida läbi turvalisusideede „müümise". Selgelt tuleb välja tuua kasu, mida üks või teine partner asjast saab. Võimalusel tuleks see ümber arvestada rahasse.
Kokkuvõtteks võib öelda, et politsei koostöö ja partnerlus erinevate osapooltega on kõikjal maailmas kogukonnakeskse ideoloogia lahutamatu osa. Koostööd tehakse nii indiviidide kui ka organisatsioonide tasandil. Vabatahtlikel on samuti pea kõigis riikides politseitegevuses ühel või teisel moel osaleda. Paljudes riikides on osa koostöö ja partnerluse vorme seadusega määratletud. Mõnedes riikides on koostöö põhimõtted määratletud riiklike tegevuskavade, strateegiate jms kaudu. Mõnel pool on koostöö korraldus jäetud politsei enda otsustada.
Partnerluses võib eristada selle kolme põhivormi: konsulteeriv, ekspertide ja järelevalvav partnerlus. Mõnes riigis on esindatud kõik kolm, kuid valdavalt on levinud ekspertide partnerlus, mis on segunenud konsulteeriva partnerlusega.
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/politsei_koost_kogukonnaga_vimalikud_probleemid.html
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/politsei_koost_kogukonnaga_vimalikud_probleemid.html
4 March 2018 02:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sarnast liigitust saab kasutada paljude riikide partnerluse juures. Suurbritannia ja Põhja-Iirimaa Ühendkuningriiki ning ka Iirimaad võib politsei ja kogukonna koostöö poolelt pidada ilmselt eesrindlikemaks riikideks maailmas.
Partnerlusel on alati kindlad eesmärgid ja olulisemad neist on järgnevalt ära nimetatud:
- leida turvalisusprobleemidele parimad lahendused ja korraldada kohalikku piirkonda paremini sobivad vastumeetmed
- kaasata kogukonda ennast otsustusprotsessidesse ja turvalisuse tagamisse
- saada ülevaade kogukonna vajadustest ning olulist teavet ning tagasisidet kohalike probleemide ja nende põhjuste kohta
- tõhustada riigi ja KOV asutuste koostööd elanike heaolu hüvanguks
- tagada politsei tegevuse usaldusväärsus ja efektiivsus ning määratleda selle prioriteedid
Näiteid partnerlusest Euroopas:
Rootsis toimuvad „turvalisuse jalutuskäigud" (Safety and Security Walks) on hea näide lihtsast koostöömeetodist. Sealse riikliku kriminaalpreventsiooni nõukogu (Brottsförebyggande rådet) poolt koostatud ülevaates on jalutuskäike iseloomustatud, kui kohaliku kogukonna liikmeid kaasavat struktuurset meetodit nii füüsilise kui ka sotsiaalse keskkonna vaatluseks. Põhiideeks on see, et kohalikus kogukonnas elavad aktiivsed inimesed omavad suurimat teadmist oma keskkonnast ja nende teadmine tuleb ära kasutada. Turvatunde loomine, kuritegude ennetamine ja ligipääsetavus on selle töö olulisemad eesmärgid. Jalutuskäikude ajal on inimestel võimalik kohtuda, mis juba iseenesest tekitab turvatunnet. Jalutuskäiku kaasatakse grupp inimesi, kes teevad nn piirkonna turvalisusinventuuri. Sellesse gruppi kuuluvad piirkonna elanikud, kohalike ühenduste esindajad, majutusettevõtjad, kohalikud poliitikud ja politsei. Inventuuri käigus tehakse märked nende kohtade osas, mis konkreetses piirkonnas ebaturvalised tunduvad või siis kuriteo toimepanemise riski suurendavad. Riskide osas hinnatakse ära ka võimalikud vastumeetmed ning need omakorda jagatakse kergesti teostatavateks ja keerulisemateks/suuremateks lahendusteks. Kuigi sellised jalutuskäigud on suunatud eriti probleemsetele piirkondadele, tehakse puuduste (valgustus, prügiprobleemid jms) kohta märkmeid ka nende kohtade osas, kus turvalisus üldiselt olemas. Alguse sai see meetod 2000. aastate alguses Göteborgist ja levis sealt üle kogu Rootsi. (Safety and ... 23.03.2011) Teadaolevalt on sellised jalutuskäigud soovitus mitte kohustus. Neid peetakse heaks võimaluseks koos olukorda hinnata. Selliste tegevuste puhul on politsei initsiatiiv väga oluline, kuna temani jõuab teadmine kohalikest probleemidest tõenäoliselt kõige varem.
Taanis on olemas SSP [School-, Social Services and Police] koostöövõrgustikud, mis toimivad väga hästi. SSP komisjonid on moodustatud 275 KOV üksuse juurde. Need võrgustikud on suunatud ennetustööle ja toimivad alates 1975. aastast. Selle võrgustikuga saavad liituda ka kohalikud kodanikuühendused, spordiklubid, tänava töötajad jne. (Competence of State ... 17.06.2011) Taani erisuseks on aga see, et politsei tohib tavakodanike tülitada vaid siis, kui see probleem otseselt neid puudutab. Seega lihtsalt niisama on piirkonna inimestega suhteliselt keeruline suhelda.
Sarnaseid koostöövorme esineb veel paljudes Euroopa riikides (nt Hollandi turvalisuse kolmnurk, Belgia tsooni nõukogud, Prantsusmaa Kohalikud Turvalisuse Kokkulepped [les contrats locaux de sécurité- CLS] jne). Politsei ja teiste asutuste/kogukonna koostöövormidel on erinevad eestvedajad. Paljudes riikides on selleks kohalik omavalitsus või siis riigi valitsuse esindaja piirkonnas, kuid Taanis ja Iirimaal on selleks politsei, kellele on seadusega pandud ainukohustus turvalisuse eest vastutada ja sellega seonduvat koostööd korraldada.
Näiteid partnerlusest Aasias:
Jaapanis on kogukonnakeskset lähenemist arendatud alates II maailmasõja lõpust. Nad on väga uhked oma politseipunktide (Koban) süsteemi üle, millel on pikk traditsioon ning mille on üle võtnud või siis võtmas ka teised riigid (nt Singapur). Koostöö ja partnerluse osas väärib märkimist Kobani koostöönõukoja institutsioon, mis koosneb kogukonna erinevate eluvaldkondade esindajatest. Selles arutatakse kohaliku elu küsimusi, tehakse järelepärimisi politseile ning uuritakse ja edendatakse kogukonna turvalisusega seotud tegevusi. Üle kogu riigi on selliseid nõukodasid 13000. Lisaks kaasab politsei ennetustöösse vabatahtlike gruppe. Väidetavalt on selliseid gruppe üle riigi kaasatud ligi 41000. Politsei peab neid gruppe asendamatuteks partneriteks kuritegevuse vähendamisel ning pakub neile tuge vajaliku info ja koolituste kaudu (Police of Japan 2010:14-15).
Singapuris kasutatakse sarnaselt Jaapanile naabruskonna politsei poste (NPP). Kogukonna turvalisuse ja julgeoleku programmide kaudu püütakse koostööd selle liikmetega parendada. Koostöös kogukonna liidrite, liikmete ja politseiga kujundatakse programmid ja tegevuste kavad lähtuvalt konkreetse kogukonna vajadustest, sinna kaasatakse teisi asutusi ning koostöös lahendatakse turvalisusprobleeme kogukonnas. Kogu tegevus on kantud põhimõttest, et iga kodanik saab midagi ära teha ühiskonna turvalisuse jaoks. (Singh, J... 03.03.2011)
Partnerlusel on alati kindlad eesmärgid ja olulisemad neist on järgnevalt ära nimetatud:
- leida turvalisusprobleemidele parimad lahendused ja korraldada kohalikku piirkonda paremini sobivad vastumeetmed
- kaasata kogukonda ennast otsustusprotsessidesse ja turvalisuse tagamisse
- saada ülevaade kogukonna vajadustest ning olulist teavet ning tagasisidet kohalike probleemide ja nende põhjuste kohta
- tõhustada riigi ja KOV asutuste koostööd elanike heaolu hüvanguks
- tagada politsei tegevuse usaldusväärsus ja efektiivsus ning määratleda selle prioriteedid
Näiteid partnerlusest Euroopas:
Rootsis toimuvad „turvalisuse jalutuskäigud" (Safety and Security Walks) on hea näide lihtsast koostöömeetodist. Sealse riikliku kriminaalpreventsiooni nõukogu (Brottsförebyggande rådet) poolt koostatud ülevaates on jalutuskäike iseloomustatud, kui kohaliku kogukonna liikmeid kaasavat struktuurset meetodit nii füüsilise kui ka sotsiaalse keskkonna vaatluseks. Põhiideeks on see, et kohalikus kogukonnas elavad aktiivsed inimesed omavad suurimat teadmist oma keskkonnast ja nende teadmine tuleb ära kasutada. Turvatunde loomine, kuritegude ennetamine ja ligipääsetavus on selle töö olulisemad eesmärgid. Jalutuskäikude ajal on inimestel võimalik kohtuda, mis juba iseenesest tekitab turvatunnet. Jalutuskäiku kaasatakse grupp inimesi, kes teevad nn piirkonna turvalisusinventuuri. Sellesse gruppi kuuluvad piirkonna elanikud, kohalike ühenduste esindajad, majutusettevõtjad, kohalikud poliitikud ja politsei. Inventuuri käigus tehakse märked nende kohtade osas, mis konkreetses piirkonnas ebaturvalised tunduvad või siis kuriteo toimepanemise riski suurendavad. Riskide osas hinnatakse ära ka võimalikud vastumeetmed ning need omakorda jagatakse kergesti teostatavateks ja keerulisemateks/suuremateks lahendusteks. Kuigi sellised jalutuskäigud on suunatud eriti probleemsetele piirkondadele, tehakse puuduste (valgustus, prügiprobleemid jms) kohta märkmeid ka nende kohtade osas, kus turvalisus üldiselt olemas. Alguse sai see meetod 2000. aastate alguses Göteborgist ja levis sealt üle kogu Rootsi. (Safety and ... 23.03.2011) Teadaolevalt on sellised jalutuskäigud soovitus mitte kohustus. Neid peetakse heaks võimaluseks koos olukorda hinnata. Selliste tegevuste puhul on politsei initsiatiiv väga oluline, kuna temani jõuab teadmine kohalikest probleemidest tõenäoliselt kõige varem.
Taanis on olemas SSP [School-, Social Services and Police] koostöövõrgustikud, mis toimivad väga hästi. SSP komisjonid on moodustatud 275 KOV üksuse juurde. Need võrgustikud on suunatud ennetustööle ja toimivad alates 1975. aastast. Selle võrgustikuga saavad liituda ka kohalikud kodanikuühendused, spordiklubid, tänava töötajad jne. (Competence of State ... 17.06.2011) Taani erisuseks on aga see, et politsei tohib tavakodanike tülitada vaid siis, kui see probleem otseselt neid puudutab. Seega lihtsalt niisama on piirkonna inimestega suhteliselt keeruline suhelda.
Sarnaseid koostöövorme esineb veel paljudes Euroopa riikides (nt Hollandi turvalisuse kolmnurk, Belgia tsooni nõukogud, Prantsusmaa Kohalikud Turvalisuse Kokkulepped [les contrats locaux de sécurité- CLS] jne). Politsei ja teiste asutuste/kogukonna koostöövormidel on erinevad eestvedajad. Paljudes riikides on selleks kohalik omavalitsus või siis riigi valitsuse esindaja piirkonnas, kuid Taanis ja Iirimaal on selleks politsei, kellele on seadusega pandud ainukohustus turvalisuse eest vastutada ja sellega seonduvat koostööd korraldada.
Näiteid partnerlusest Aasias:
Jaapanis on kogukonnakeskset lähenemist arendatud alates II maailmasõja lõpust. Nad on väga uhked oma politseipunktide (Koban) süsteemi üle, millel on pikk traditsioon ning mille on üle võtnud või siis võtmas ka teised riigid (nt Singapur). Koostöö ja partnerluse osas väärib märkimist Kobani koostöönõukoja institutsioon, mis koosneb kogukonna erinevate eluvaldkondade esindajatest. Selles arutatakse kohaliku elu küsimusi, tehakse järelepärimisi politseile ning uuritakse ja edendatakse kogukonna turvalisusega seotud tegevusi. Üle kogu riigi on selliseid nõukodasid 13000. Lisaks kaasab politsei ennetustöösse vabatahtlike gruppe. Väidetavalt on selliseid gruppe üle riigi kaasatud ligi 41000. Politsei peab neid gruppe asendamatuteks partneriteks kuritegevuse vähendamisel ning pakub neile tuge vajaliku info ja koolituste kaudu (Police of Japan 2010:14-15).
Singapuris kasutatakse sarnaselt Jaapanile naabruskonna politsei poste (NPP). Kogukonna turvalisuse ja julgeoleku programmide kaudu püütakse koostööd selle liikmetega parendada. Koostöös kogukonna liidrite, liikmete ja politseiga kujundatakse programmid ja tegevuste kavad lähtuvalt konkreetse kogukonna vajadustest, sinna kaasatakse teisi asutusi ning koostöös lahendatakse turvalisusprobleeme kogukonnas. Kogu tegevus on kantud põhimõttest, et iga kodanik saab midagi ära teha ühiskonna turvalisuse jaoks. (Singh, J... 03.03.2011)
4 March 2018 02:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Partnerite kaasamine välisriikide näitel
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/partnerite_kaasamine_vlisriikide_nitel.html
Politsei koostöö elanikega kuulub lahutamatult kogukonnakeskse tegevuse ideoloogia juurde. Juba ligi kaks sajandit tagasi sõnastas Robert Peel (Londoni Metropolipolitsei looja) politseitöö põhiprintsiibid ja üks neist oli järgmine:
Politsei peab pidevalt püüdlema sellise suhte poole avalikkusega, mis vastab ajaloolisele traditsioonile, mille kohaselt politsei on rahvas ja rahvas on politsei. Politseinikud on ühiskonna liikmed, kes on palgatud pühendama kogu oma aja asjadele, mis lasuvad igal kodanikul ühiskonna heaolu ja püsimajäämise huvides. (Ruts 2004:12)
Sisejulgeoleku tagamises ei ole võimalik riigil üksi palju saavutada, v.a totalitarismi tingimustes, kus riik kontrollib ja otsustab valdava enamuse tegevustest. Turvalisuse tagamine on kahtlemata riigi üks põhiülesandeid igal pool maailmas. Kogukonna kaasamise ja koostöö vajadust on sageli õigustatud ka avaliku teenuse „kliendile orienteerituse" jätkuva kasvuga ning selle taga oleva sotsiaalse ja poliitilise mõjutusega (Skogan 1994:1).
Erinevad riigid on politsei koostöö kogukonnaga korraldanud erinevalt. Mõnel pool on regulaarsed kohtumised elanikega koos KOV esindajatega reguleeritud õigusaktide või korraldustega (nt Suurbritannia, Iirimaa, Rootsi jne). Mõnel pool on see jäetud politsei otsustada, kui tihti ja kellega kohtutakse ning mõnel pool on initsiatiiv kohalikul omavalistusel. Politsei poolt vaadates on partnerite kaasamise peamiseks eesmärgiks kohalike turvalisuseprobleemide lahendamine (probleemikeskne politseitöö).
Tegelikult on politseil koostöösse võimalik kaasata väga erinevaid partnereid ja ka erineval viisil. Politsei, teiste asutuste ja kogukonna partnerlust võiks Suurbritannia ja Põhja-Iirimaa Ühendkuningriigi praktika põhjal tinglikult liigitada järgmiselt:
- konsulteeriv partnerlus - politsei ja kogukonna vahel tagasiside andmiseks/saamiseks - siis alla võiks näidetena paigutada Londoni politsei juures toimivad Community & Police Engagement Groups - CPEG. (Safer Neighbourhoods... 17.06.2011)
- ekspertide partnerlus - sarnaneb eelmisele, kuid siin on konsulteerimisse kaasatud turvalisuseprobleemide lahendamiseks vajalikud ekspertteadmistega isikud, teised asutused, KOV esindajad jne - siia võiks paigutada erinevad ümarlauad, ekspertgrupid. Inglismaal tuntakse neid CSP ehk Community Safety Partnership nime all (Community Safety... 17.06.2011), Rootsis täidab sama rolli kohalik kriminaalpreventsiooni nõukogu ja Taanis SSP - School, Social Services and Police
- järelvaatav partnerlus - politsei usaldusväärsuse tõstmiseks moodustatud sõltumatute kogukonna väärikate esindajate nõukojad, mis erapooletult hindavad politsei sooritust. Siia võiks liigitada Põhja-Iirimaal tegutseva Northern Ireland Policing Board, mille põhieesmärgiks on kindlustada usaldusväärne ja efektiivse politseiteenuse osutamine politsei poolt (Northern Ireland ... 17.06.2011)
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/partnerite_kaasamine_vlisriikide_nitel.html
Politsei koostöö elanikega kuulub lahutamatult kogukonnakeskse tegevuse ideoloogia juurde. Juba ligi kaks sajandit tagasi sõnastas Robert Peel (Londoni Metropolipolitsei looja) politseitöö põhiprintsiibid ja üks neist oli järgmine:
Politsei peab pidevalt püüdlema sellise suhte poole avalikkusega, mis vastab ajaloolisele traditsioonile, mille kohaselt politsei on rahvas ja rahvas on politsei. Politseinikud on ühiskonna liikmed, kes on palgatud pühendama kogu oma aja asjadele, mis lasuvad igal kodanikul ühiskonna heaolu ja püsimajäämise huvides. (Ruts 2004:12)
Sisejulgeoleku tagamises ei ole võimalik riigil üksi palju saavutada, v.a totalitarismi tingimustes, kus riik kontrollib ja otsustab valdava enamuse tegevustest. Turvalisuse tagamine on kahtlemata riigi üks põhiülesandeid igal pool maailmas. Kogukonna kaasamise ja koostöö vajadust on sageli õigustatud ka avaliku teenuse „kliendile orienteerituse" jätkuva kasvuga ning selle taga oleva sotsiaalse ja poliitilise mõjutusega (Skogan 1994:1).
Erinevad riigid on politsei koostöö kogukonnaga korraldanud erinevalt. Mõnel pool on regulaarsed kohtumised elanikega koos KOV esindajatega reguleeritud õigusaktide või korraldustega (nt Suurbritannia, Iirimaa, Rootsi jne). Mõnel pool on see jäetud politsei otsustada, kui tihti ja kellega kohtutakse ning mõnel pool on initsiatiiv kohalikul omavalistusel. Politsei poolt vaadates on partnerite kaasamise peamiseks eesmärgiks kohalike turvalisuseprobleemide lahendamine (probleemikeskne politseitöö).
Tegelikult on politseil koostöösse võimalik kaasata väga erinevaid partnereid ja ka erineval viisil. Politsei, teiste asutuste ja kogukonna partnerlust võiks Suurbritannia ja Põhja-Iirimaa Ühendkuningriigi praktika põhjal tinglikult liigitada järgmiselt:
- konsulteeriv partnerlus - politsei ja kogukonna vahel tagasiside andmiseks/saamiseks - siis alla võiks näidetena paigutada Londoni politsei juures toimivad Community & Police Engagement Groups - CPEG. (Safer Neighbourhoods... 17.06.2011)
- ekspertide partnerlus - sarnaneb eelmisele, kuid siin on konsulteerimisse kaasatud turvalisuseprobleemide lahendamiseks vajalikud ekspertteadmistega isikud, teised asutused, KOV esindajad jne - siia võiks paigutada erinevad ümarlauad, ekspertgrupid. Inglismaal tuntakse neid CSP ehk Community Safety Partnership nime all (Community Safety... 17.06.2011), Rootsis täidab sama rolli kohalik kriminaalpreventsiooni nõukogu ja Taanis SSP - School, Social Services and Police
- järelvaatav partnerlus - politsei usaldusväärsuse tõstmiseks moodustatud sõltumatute kogukonna väärikate esindajate nõukojad, mis erapooletult hindavad politsei sooritust. Siia võiks liigitada Põhja-Iirimaal tegutseva Northern Ireland Policing Board, mille põhieesmärgiks on kindlustada usaldusväärne ja efektiivse politseiteenuse osutamine politsei poolt (Northern Ireland ... 17.06.2011)
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4 March 2018 02:35
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Volitusnormid mittetulundusühenduste ja vabatahtlike kaasamiseks korrakaitselisse tegevusse Eesti näitel
Näide volitusnormist, mis teeb vabaühenduste kaasamise võimalikuks politsei tegevusse:
01.01.2011 jõustunud abipolitseiniku seadus (RT I, 20.12.2010, 1) näeb ette ka juba reaalse võimaluse mittetulundusühingu kaasamiseks politseitegevusse. Abipolitseiniku seaduse § 11 sätestab, et siseminister võib Politsei- ja Piirivalveameti peadirektori ettepanekul sõlmida mittetulundusühinguga tsiviilõigusliku lepingu (korrakaitseleping) politsei tegevuses osaleva ülesande iseseisva täitmise pädevusega abipolitseiniku tegevuse korraldamiseks. Sisuliselt antakse sellega õiguslik alus mittetulundusühingul taotleda õigust politseitegevuses osalevate vabatahtlike töö korraldamiseks.
Näide volitusnormi andmise kohta kriminaalhooldusülesannete täitmiseks
01.05.2998 jõustunud kriminaalhooldusseaduse § 21 lg 1 (RT I 23.02.2011, 21) annab õiguse justiitsministrile halduslepingu alusel anda kriminaalhooldusülesannete täitmise mõne kohtu töö piirkonnas sobivale ja vastavat soovi avaldanud mittetulundusühingule.
Näide vabatahtlike kaasamisest päästevaldkonnas
Päästeseadus (RT I 04.03.2011, 13) sätestab kaasamise raamid vabatahtlikele päästjatele ja päästeüksustele. Vabatahtlike kaasamine on reguleeritud eriseadustega (nt abipolitseiniku seaduse, päästeseaduse, kriminaalhooldusseadus jne).
Näide vabatahtlike kaasamisest
Üheks heaks näiteks kodanikuaktiivsusest siseturvalisuse valdkonnas on Eestis naabrivalveliikumine. Mittetulundusühing Eesti Naabrivalve, mis loodi 05. mail 2000. aastal kodanikualgatuse korras, on tänaseks laienenud üle Eesti ning on koondanud endasse üle kümnetuhande majapidamise. Ühingu eesmärgiks on tõsta elanike turvatunnet ning elanike aktiivse tegutsemise tulemusel turvalisust oma kodudes ja nende lähemas ümbruskonnas. Ühing on kaasatud mitmetesse riiklikesse ja kohaliku tasandi siseturvalisusealastesse koostööprojektidesse ning tunnustatud partner nii avalikule- kui erasektorile. Lisaks sellele võib rääkida vabatahtlike kaasamisel korrakaitsetöösse nt Punase Risti vabatahtlike kaasamine, vabatahtlik reservpäästerühma koos välja õppinud koertega, merepääste jne.
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Näide volitusnormist, mis teeb vabaühenduste kaasamise võimalikuks politsei tegevusse:
01.01.2011 jõustunud abipolitseiniku seadus (RT I, 20.12.2010, 1) näeb ette ka juba reaalse võimaluse mittetulundusühingu kaasamiseks politseitegevusse. Abipolitseiniku seaduse § 11 sätestab, et siseminister võib Politsei- ja Piirivalveameti peadirektori ettepanekul sõlmida mittetulundusühinguga tsiviilõigusliku lepingu (korrakaitseleping) politsei tegevuses osaleva ülesande iseseisva täitmise pädevusega abipolitseiniku tegevuse korraldamiseks. Sisuliselt antakse sellega õiguslik alus mittetulundusühingul taotleda õigust politseitegevuses osalevate vabatahtlike töö korraldamiseks.
Näide volitusnormi andmise kohta kriminaalhooldusülesannete täitmiseks
01.05.2998 jõustunud kriminaalhooldusseaduse § 21 lg 1 (RT I 23.02.2011, 21) annab õiguse justiitsministrile halduslepingu alusel anda kriminaalhooldusülesannete täitmise mõne kohtu töö piirkonnas sobivale ja vastavat soovi avaldanud mittetulundusühingule.
Näide vabatahtlike kaasamisest päästevaldkonnas
Päästeseadus (RT I 04.03.2011, 13) sätestab kaasamise raamid vabatahtlikele päästjatele ja päästeüksustele. Vabatahtlike kaasamine on reguleeritud eriseadustega (nt abipolitseiniku seaduse, päästeseaduse, kriminaalhooldusseadus jne).
Näide vabatahtlike kaasamisest
Üheks heaks näiteks kodanikuaktiivsusest siseturvalisuse valdkonnas on Eestis naabrivalveliikumine. Mittetulundusühing Eesti Naabrivalve, mis loodi 05. mail 2000. aastal kodanikualgatuse korras, on tänaseks laienenud üle Eesti ning on koondanud endasse üle kümnetuhande majapidamise. Ühingu eesmärgiks on tõsta elanike turvatunnet ning elanike aktiivse tegutsemise tulemusel turvalisust oma kodudes ja nende lähemas ümbruskonnas. Ühing on kaasatud mitmetesse riiklikesse ja kohaliku tasandi siseturvalisusealastesse koostööprojektidesse ning tunnustatud partner nii avalikule- kui erasektorile. Lisaks sellele võib rääkida vabatahtlike kaasamisel korrakaitsetöösse nt Punase Risti vabatahtlike kaasamine, vabatahtlik reservpäästerühma koos välja õppinud koertega, merepääste jne.
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4 March 2018 02:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Heaks näiteks multikultuurse kodanikuühiskonna toimimisest on Šveitsi. Vaatamata sellele, et riik on üsna keerulise ülesehitusega ja et selles on koos palju erinevaid kultuurigruppe, võib Šveitsi Konföderatsiooni ometi pidada üheks üsna turvaliseks riigiks Euroopas. Hästi arenenud otsedemokraatia annab poliitika kujundamisel kõigile võimaluse kaasa rääkida. Šveitsi aukonsul Matti Klaar Eestis on ajakirjale Kultuur & Elu 2003. aastal antud intervjuus öelnud: see on „isepäine ja eripärane, mägine, pindalaga 41 285 km2 ja 7 miljonilise elanikkonnaga maa Prantsusmaa, Itaalia, Saksamaa ja Austria vahel. Kõneldakse neljas riigikeeles. Mõistagi ei valda kõik nelja keelt, kuid oht kohata inimest, kes suudab suhelda neist kolmes, on suur. Lisaks keskvalitsusele on igal kantonil 23-st oma põhiseadus, parlament ja valitsus. Multikultuurne ühiskond seisab kolmel vaalal: neutraliteet, isetegevus ja otsedemokraatia /.../ Võim on Šveitsis väga detsentraliseeritud. Pearõhk on pandud kohalikele väikestele ühikutele. Regionaalselt on väikesed ühikud väga enesekesksed ja aktiivsed, mis ongi Šveitsi selgroog." (Kultuur ja Elu 2/2003)
Seal on detsentraliseeritud ka korrakaitsefunktsiooni täitmine, st et iga kanton peab üleval oma politseiorganisatsiooni, mis lähtub oma tegevuses kohalikest vajadustest. Tuleb aga tõdeda, et sellise süsteemi toimimiseks peab olema pikaajaline traditsioon ja piisavalt rikas riik, sest Euroopas on näiteid, kus selline jaotus ei toimi väga hästi (nt Bosnia-Hertsegoviina Föderatsiooni pool), kuna riigi majandus ei ole nii kõrgel tasemel, et sellist süsteemi üleval hoida. Samuti on takistuseks värske mälestus erinevate kultuuride verisest kokkupõrkest (Bosnia sõda 1992-1995).
Kokkuvõtteks võib eeltoodu põhjal väita, et multikultuursetes riikides on turvalisuspoliitika põhisuundades sellele ühiskonna fenomenile endale oluliselt rohkem tähelepanu pööratud kui Eestis praegu. Enamlevinud võtmetegevused on kodanikuühiskonna ja eriti selle erinevate gruppide kaasamine (sh vabatahtlikud, mittetulundusorganisatsioonid) riigi funktsioneerimisse ning regulaarne probleeme ennetav suhtlemine nendega; koostöö turvalisusprobleemide lahendamisel; korrakaitsjate teadlikkuse tõstmine kultuuriliste eripärade osas; etniliste gruppide liikmete värbamine politseitöösse jms. Multikultuurne ühiskond toob oma olemusega kaasa täiendavaid riske turvalisuse osas, kuna gruppidel on erinevad arusaamad väärtustest, traditsioonidest ja õiguskorrast. Kuigi see probleem ei ole Eestis veel aktuaalne, tuleks turvalisuspoliitika põhisuundades juba praegu mõelda võimalikele tulevikustsenaariumitele ning hakata enam koostööd tegema erinevate kultuuride esindajatega, et toota laiapõhjalist turvalisust.
IDevice küsimuse ikoon Millises Eesti riiklikus strateegiadokumendis räägitakse tulevikuriske silmas pidades otsesõnu rassilise, etnilise ja religioosse taustaga probleemide ennetamisest ning neile reageerimisest?
Eesti turvalisuspoliitika põhisuunad aastani 2015
Eesti Vabariigi julgeolekuolekupoliitika alused
Kriminaalpoliitika arengusuunad aastani 2018
· Multikultuurse kodanikuühiskonna turvalisuse tagamisse kaasamise võimalikkus Eestis (milliseid gruppe tuleks selles võtmes vaadata, kellega suhelda jne)
· Turvalisuspoliitika põhisuunad meil ja mujal (võrdlev analüüs prioriteetide ja oodatava tegutsemisviisi osas)
Vaata videot:
Proactive Policing with the Victorian Multicultural Unit, (3 min, teisest kultuuriruumist pärit Austraalia naispolitseink räägib oma tegevusest) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v73vIH0ZIec
Seal on detsentraliseeritud ka korrakaitsefunktsiooni täitmine, st et iga kanton peab üleval oma politseiorganisatsiooni, mis lähtub oma tegevuses kohalikest vajadustest. Tuleb aga tõdeda, et sellise süsteemi toimimiseks peab olema pikaajaline traditsioon ja piisavalt rikas riik, sest Euroopas on näiteid, kus selline jaotus ei toimi väga hästi (nt Bosnia-Hertsegoviina Föderatsiooni pool), kuna riigi majandus ei ole nii kõrgel tasemel, et sellist süsteemi üleval hoida. Samuti on takistuseks värske mälestus erinevate kultuuride verisest kokkupõrkest (Bosnia sõda 1992-1995).
Kokkuvõtteks võib eeltoodu põhjal väita, et multikultuursetes riikides on turvalisuspoliitika põhisuundades sellele ühiskonna fenomenile endale oluliselt rohkem tähelepanu pööratud kui Eestis praegu. Enamlevinud võtmetegevused on kodanikuühiskonna ja eriti selle erinevate gruppide kaasamine (sh vabatahtlikud, mittetulundusorganisatsioonid) riigi funktsioneerimisse ning regulaarne probleeme ennetav suhtlemine nendega; koostöö turvalisusprobleemide lahendamisel; korrakaitsjate teadlikkuse tõstmine kultuuriliste eripärade osas; etniliste gruppide liikmete värbamine politseitöösse jms. Multikultuurne ühiskond toob oma olemusega kaasa täiendavaid riske turvalisuse osas, kuna gruppidel on erinevad arusaamad väärtustest, traditsioonidest ja õiguskorrast. Kuigi see probleem ei ole Eestis veel aktuaalne, tuleks turvalisuspoliitika põhisuundades juba praegu mõelda võimalikele tulevikustsenaariumitele ning hakata enam koostööd tegema erinevate kultuuride esindajatega, et toota laiapõhjalist turvalisust.
IDevice küsimuse ikoon Millises Eesti riiklikus strateegiadokumendis räägitakse tulevikuriske silmas pidades otsesõnu rassilise, etnilise ja religioosse taustaga probleemide ennetamisest ning neile reageerimisest?
Eesti turvalisuspoliitika põhisuunad aastani 2015
Eesti Vabariigi julgeolekuolekupoliitika alused
Kriminaalpoliitika arengusuunad aastani 2018
· Multikultuurse kodanikuühiskonna turvalisuse tagamisse kaasamise võimalikkus Eestis (milliseid gruppe tuleks selles võtmes vaadata, kellega suhelda jne)
· Turvalisuspoliitika põhisuunad meil ja mujal (võrdlev analüüs prioriteetide ja oodatava tegutsemisviisi osas)
Vaata videot:
Proactive Policing with the Victorian Multicultural Unit, (3 min, teisest kultuuriruumist pärit Austraalia naispolitseink räägib oma tegevusest) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v73vIH0ZIec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v73vIH0ZIec
4 March 2018 02:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ühiskonna arengu mõju turvalisus- ja korrakaitsepoliitika ning korrakaitsestrateegiate kujundamisele
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Turvalisuspoliitika kujundamise aspekte multikultuurses ühiskonnas
Mis siis ikkagi on multikultuurne kodanikuühiskond? Kuidas selles tegeleda turvalisuse loomisega? Kas see üldse on võimalik? Neile küsimustele ei ole viimase aja poliitiliste väljaütlemiste kontekstis lihtne vastata. Nagu eelpool nimetatud, on tänases maailmas peamiseks konfliktide allikaks religioonide (sellest tulenevalt ka kultuuride) vastasseis. Tegelikult võib väita, et kultuuride paljusus on ise muutunud üheks turvalisuse riskiks ning ideaalselt toimivat multikultuurset ühiskonda ei olegi võimalik leida. Hiljutised väljaütlemised suurriikide liidrite poolt (nt Saksamaa kantsler Angela Merkel, 17.10.2011 BBC-s, vt ka video: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11559451)
tunnistavad, et praegune nn „multikulti" projekt ei toimi enam. Üksteise kõrval rahulikult koos elamine ei tööta, sest erineva kultuuriga kogukonnad kasvavad lahku. See aga põhjustab riigis pingeid ja vaenu sisserändajate vastu. Seega peaks riik tegelema aktiivselt sisserännanute integreerimisega oma ühiskonda.
Prantsusmaa, Saksamaa ning ka teiste suurema immigratsiooniga riikide politseinikest kolleegide sõnul (eravestlused) on võõra kultuuriga kogukonna kasv tekitamas lumepalliefekti, mida tagasi pöörata on pea võimatu. Suurimaks probleemiks peetakse seda, et sisserännanud moodustavad kiiresti tugeva kogukonna, mis ei ole seotud kohaliku riigi traditsioonidega. Mõnede piirkondade näitel räägitakse sellest, kuidas asumeid sisserännanute poolt nö „üle võetakse". Kortermaja näide - suures majas eraldatakse mitmele erinevast kultuuriruumist pärit immigrandile elamispind. Põliselanikud tunnevad end selles uues olukorras ebamugavalt ja hakkavad otsima uut elamispinda, nende poolt vabastatud korterid lähevad uutele immigrantide peredele. Nii on peagi suur osa majast „uute tulijate" poolt hõivatud. Seejärel hakkavad kõrvalmajadest lahkuma end uues olukorras ebamugavalt tundvad inimesed ja sealgi kordub sama protsess. Halvematel juhtudel on sellisel viisil muutunud terve kvartali või linnaosa elanikkond. Samas ei ole „uute" elanike sotsiaalne toimetulek eriti hea, kuna nad ei oska keelt, ei leia tööd jne. Kogu piirkond muutub ja sotsiaalsed probleemid tekitavad varem või hiljem ka turvalisusprobleeme.
Püüdes multikultuurseid ühiskondi mõista tuleb arvestada, et neid esineb üsna mitmel erineval viisil. Näiteks on toodud järgmisi variante: pikaajalise traditsiooniga erineva kultuuriga grupid, hiljutiste immigratsioonilainetega kaasnevad kultuurilised erinevused, territooriumiga seotud ja mitteterritoriaalsed kultuurilised erinevused. Mõnel juhul võistlevad muud ühiskonna väärtused tugevalt kultuurilise erinevuse väärtustega ja mõnel juhul on multikultuursed ühiskonnad suhteliselt harmoonilised ja rahulikud. Mõne ühiskonna puhul on erinevate kultuuride kooseksisteerimisel vägivaldsete konfliktidega seotud minevik. (Saunders 2002:66)
Edna Erez, James O. Finckenauer ja Peter R. Ibarra (2003:6) on oma artiklis märkinud, et „Kiired muutused suhteliselt heterogeenses elanikkonnas ning sellega kaasnev keskustelu multikultuuri üle võib viia küsimusteni, kui kehtivad on seaduste või kuritegude definitsioonid mõnede gruppide jaoks ning „korra" ja „korratuste" kontseptsioonid teiste jaoks. Teistpidi - uute gruppide saabumine provotseerib tihti küsimusi nende poolt normaalseks peetavate koduste või perekondlike suhete, kohustuste või privileegide rakendamise kohasuse üle. Seega võib etniliste, kultuuriliste ja keeleliste kogukondade ning rassiliste gruppide hulga suurenemine kasvatada konflikte õiguslike ja ühiskondlike standardite ning definitsioonide legitiimsuse osas ning selle kaudu esitada tohutu väljakutse tegevuste osas õiguskorra ja avaliku korra säilitamiseks."
Samas artiklis käsitletakse erinevaid probleeme eri riikide olukorra osas (Kanada, USA, Saksamaa, Lõuna-Aafrika, Iisraeli ja Austraalia näitel) ning seda, kuidas politsei on uue olukorraga oma tegevust muutnud. Olulisemate tähelepanekutena võib siin välja tuua politseiametnike koolitamise kultuuriliste eripärade arvestamiseks, vähemuste kogukonna lugupeetud liikmete kaasamist nn „kultuurilistest traditsioonidest" tulenevate probleemide (nt naiste alandav kohtlemine) lahendamisse mitte läbi nende toetamise vaid hoopis kahtluse alla panemise, politsei tegevuse rõhuasetuse muutmist (peaeesmärk säilitada erinevate rahvuskultuuride vaheline rahu) jms.
Paljudes riikides püütakse immigrantide kogukondi riigi tegemistesse aktiivselt kaasata, sh turvalisusega seotud tegevusse. Multikultuursetes ühiskondades püütakse värvata erinevate kogukondade esindajaid korrakaitsejõududesse ja loodetakse seeläbi paremini turvalisust toota (nt Iirimaa, Holland jt). Samuti on seal suur roll erinevate etniliste kogukondade esindajatega suhtlemisel. Iirimaal on politseis moodustatud eraldi üksus (Garda Racial and Intercultural Office), kelle ülesandeks on hoida sidet erinevate rahvusgruppide esindajatega ning anda neile tagasisidet politsei tegevusest. Seda tehti Rotterdam Charter eeskujul. (Community Policing in Europe 2006:101) Viimane koostati Hollandis 1996. aasta rahvusvahelisel konverentsil „Politseitöö multietnilises ühiskonnas: printsiibid, praktikad ja partnerlus". Dokument ei ole siduv rahvusvaheline õigusakt, tegemist on pigem parima praktika kirjeldamisega. See puudutab viite erinevat teemat: etniliste gruppide esindajate politseisse värbamine ja kinnihoidmine, politseiametnike väljaõpe, diskrimineerimisvastase seaduse jõustamine, politsei ja etniliste vähemuste vahele silla loomine. (Rotterdam Charter ... 16.06.2011). Iirimaa ja Hollandi näitel võib öelda, et päris paljud ideed on seal ellu viidud ning erinevate kultuuride esindajatega toimub pidev suhtlemine.
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Turvalisuspoliitika kujundamise aspekte multikultuurses ühiskonnas
Mis siis ikkagi on multikultuurne kodanikuühiskond? Kuidas selles tegeleda turvalisuse loomisega? Kas see üldse on võimalik? Neile küsimustele ei ole viimase aja poliitiliste väljaütlemiste kontekstis lihtne vastata. Nagu eelpool nimetatud, on tänases maailmas peamiseks konfliktide allikaks religioonide (sellest tulenevalt ka kultuuride) vastasseis. Tegelikult võib väita, et kultuuride paljusus on ise muutunud üheks turvalisuse riskiks ning ideaalselt toimivat multikultuurset ühiskonda ei olegi võimalik leida. Hiljutised väljaütlemised suurriikide liidrite poolt (nt Saksamaa kantsler Angela Merkel, 17.10.2011 BBC-s, vt ka video: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11559451)
tunnistavad, et praegune nn „multikulti" projekt ei toimi enam. Üksteise kõrval rahulikult koos elamine ei tööta, sest erineva kultuuriga kogukonnad kasvavad lahku. See aga põhjustab riigis pingeid ja vaenu sisserändajate vastu. Seega peaks riik tegelema aktiivselt sisserännanute integreerimisega oma ühiskonda.
Prantsusmaa, Saksamaa ning ka teiste suurema immigratsiooniga riikide politseinikest kolleegide sõnul (eravestlused) on võõra kultuuriga kogukonna kasv tekitamas lumepalliefekti, mida tagasi pöörata on pea võimatu. Suurimaks probleemiks peetakse seda, et sisserännanud moodustavad kiiresti tugeva kogukonna, mis ei ole seotud kohaliku riigi traditsioonidega. Mõnede piirkondade näitel räägitakse sellest, kuidas asumeid sisserännanute poolt nö „üle võetakse". Kortermaja näide - suures majas eraldatakse mitmele erinevast kultuuriruumist pärit immigrandile elamispind. Põliselanikud tunnevad end selles uues olukorras ebamugavalt ja hakkavad otsima uut elamispinda, nende poolt vabastatud korterid lähevad uutele immigrantide peredele. Nii on peagi suur osa majast „uute tulijate" poolt hõivatud. Seejärel hakkavad kõrvalmajadest lahkuma end uues olukorras ebamugavalt tundvad inimesed ja sealgi kordub sama protsess. Halvematel juhtudel on sellisel viisil muutunud terve kvartali või linnaosa elanikkond. Samas ei ole „uute" elanike sotsiaalne toimetulek eriti hea, kuna nad ei oska keelt, ei leia tööd jne. Kogu piirkond muutub ja sotsiaalsed probleemid tekitavad varem või hiljem ka turvalisusprobleeme.
Püüdes multikultuurseid ühiskondi mõista tuleb arvestada, et neid esineb üsna mitmel erineval viisil. Näiteks on toodud järgmisi variante: pikaajalise traditsiooniga erineva kultuuriga grupid, hiljutiste immigratsioonilainetega kaasnevad kultuurilised erinevused, territooriumiga seotud ja mitteterritoriaalsed kultuurilised erinevused. Mõnel juhul võistlevad muud ühiskonna väärtused tugevalt kultuurilise erinevuse väärtustega ja mõnel juhul on multikultuursed ühiskonnad suhteliselt harmoonilised ja rahulikud. Mõne ühiskonna puhul on erinevate kultuuride kooseksisteerimisel vägivaldsete konfliktidega seotud minevik. (Saunders 2002:66)
Edna Erez, James O. Finckenauer ja Peter R. Ibarra (2003:6) on oma artiklis märkinud, et „Kiired muutused suhteliselt heterogeenses elanikkonnas ning sellega kaasnev keskustelu multikultuuri üle võib viia küsimusteni, kui kehtivad on seaduste või kuritegude definitsioonid mõnede gruppide jaoks ning „korra" ja „korratuste" kontseptsioonid teiste jaoks. Teistpidi - uute gruppide saabumine provotseerib tihti küsimusi nende poolt normaalseks peetavate koduste või perekondlike suhete, kohustuste või privileegide rakendamise kohasuse üle. Seega võib etniliste, kultuuriliste ja keeleliste kogukondade ning rassiliste gruppide hulga suurenemine kasvatada konflikte õiguslike ja ühiskondlike standardite ning definitsioonide legitiimsuse osas ning selle kaudu esitada tohutu väljakutse tegevuste osas õiguskorra ja avaliku korra säilitamiseks."
Samas artiklis käsitletakse erinevaid probleeme eri riikide olukorra osas (Kanada, USA, Saksamaa, Lõuna-Aafrika, Iisraeli ja Austraalia näitel) ning seda, kuidas politsei on uue olukorraga oma tegevust muutnud. Olulisemate tähelepanekutena võib siin välja tuua politseiametnike koolitamise kultuuriliste eripärade arvestamiseks, vähemuste kogukonna lugupeetud liikmete kaasamist nn „kultuurilistest traditsioonidest" tulenevate probleemide (nt naiste alandav kohtlemine) lahendamisse mitte läbi nende toetamise vaid hoopis kahtluse alla panemise, politsei tegevuse rõhuasetuse muutmist (peaeesmärk säilitada erinevate rahvuskultuuride vaheline rahu) jms.
Paljudes riikides püütakse immigrantide kogukondi riigi tegemistesse aktiivselt kaasata, sh turvalisusega seotud tegevusse. Multikultuursetes ühiskondades püütakse värvata erinevate kogukondade esindajaid korrakaitsejõududesse ja loodetakse seeläbi paremini turvalisust toota (nt Iirimaa, Holland jt). Samuti on seal suur roll erinevate etniliste kogukondade esindajatega suhtlemisel. Iirimaal on politseis moodustatud eraldi üksus (Garda Racial and Intercultural Office), kelle ülesandeks on hoida sidet erinevate rahvusgruppide esindajatega ning anda neile tagasisidet politsei tegevusest. Seda tehti Rotterdam Charter eeskujul. (Community Policing in Europe 2006:101) Viimane koostati Hollandis 1996. aasta rahvusvahelisel konverentsil „Politseitöö multietnilises ühiskonnas: printsiibid, praktikad ja partnerlus". Dokument ei ole siduv rahvusvaheline õigusakt, tegemist on pigem parima praktika kirjeldamisega. See puudutab viite erinevat teemat: etniliste gruppide esindajate politseisse värbamine ja kinnihoidmine, politseiametnike väljaõpe, diskrimineerimisvastase seaduse jõustamine, politsei ja etniliste vähemuste vahele silla loomine. (Rotterdam Charter ... 16.06.2011). Iirimaa ja Hollandi näitel võib öelda, et päris paljud ideed on seal ellu viidud ning erinevate kultuuride esindajatega toimub pidev suhtlemine.
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4 March 2018 02:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kodanikuühiskonna roll siseturvalisuse aspektist
Turvalisus-, julgeoleku ja korrakaitsepoliitikate üldiseks ja laiemaks eesmärgiks võib pidada hea elukvaliteedi ja elukeskkonna tagamist, mis võimaldab riigi elanikel väärikalt ja kartmatult oma elu elada. Erinevad riigid on oma strateegiates ja põhisuundades ära märkinud kodanikuühiskonna suurt rolli ja koostöö vajadust. Multikultuurse ühiskonna mainimine sõltub riigis valitsevast kultuuride paljususest ja nende vahelisest konfliktiohust. Riskide maandamiseks peetakse oluliseks koostööd erinevate gruppide ja nende esindajatega. Kodanikuühiskonna roll turvalisuspoliitika kujundamises ja elluviimises on suurem pikaajalise demokraatiatraditsiooniga riikides.
Siseturvalisuse aspektist tuleb kodanikuühiskonna roll ja kaasamise ulatus ning olulisus selgelt esile Eesti turvalisuspoliitika arengudokumendist „Eesti turvalisuspoliitika põhisuunad aastani 2015", mis kiideti Riigikogu poolt heaks 2008. aastal. Dokumendis on turvalisuspoliitika põhisuundade seadmisel lähtutud printsiibist, mille kohaselt Eesti sisemise stabiilsuse kindlustamisel ning inimelude päästmisel ja kaitsmisel on ohtude ennetamine ja tõrjumine ning kodanike ulatuslik protsessi kaasamine oluliselt tõhusam karistusõiguslikest meetmetest, samuti on selles rõhutatud vajadust kaasata korrakaitse vahendite ja tegevuste kavandamisele ning ohtude ennetamisesse senisest suuremas ulatuses kohalikud omavalitsused ja nende liidud, kodanikeühendused ning üksikisikud. Oluliseks on ka peetud, et turvalisuspoliitika põhisuundades toodud korrakaitseliste meetmete elluviimiseks koostavate arengukavade ettevalmistamisse oleksid kaasatud nii avalik-, mittetulundus- kui erasektor. (https://www.riigiteataja.ee/akt/12979629).
Eesti turvalisuspoliitika olulisemate eesmärkidena on nimetatud järgmisi:
turvalisem tunne
ohutum liiklus
tuleohutum keskkond
kaitstum vara
vähem õnnetusi
turvalisem riik
kiirem abi
tõhusam turvalisuspoliitika
Analüüsides eesmärkide sisu võib väita, et kodanikuühiskonna kaasamist ja koostööd sellega on mainitud pea kõigi eesmärkide juures. Siiski ei ole selles eriti juttu erinevate kultuuride rollist turvalisuse tagamisel. Turvalisema tunde all on tegevusena märgitud vaid, et tõhusama lõimumisalase tegevuse tulemusena vähenevad rahvustevahelised pinged. (p.10). Sellest võiks järeldada, et erinevate kultuuride võimalikest konfliktidest tulenev oht ei ole praegu piisavalt aktuaalne ning senised Eestis elavad rahvad on ühiskonda suhteliselt hästi sulandunud. Samas aga tuleb meeles pidada „aprillirahutust" ja selle mõju turvalisuse olukorrale. See oli selge märk tuha all hõõguvast tulest ning selliste sündmuste kordumist ei saa paraku ka tulevikus välistada. 2004. aastal Riigikogu poolt heaks kiidetud Eesti Vabariigi julgeolekupoliitika alustes (p.4.1) on integratsiooniprotsess kajastatud kui õigusriigi tugevdamise ning tasakaalus ja demokraatliku kodanikuühiskonna olulist osa. Valdavalt on neis strateegiates siiski juttu vaid täna juba olemasolevaist ja Eestis pikka aega olnud kultuuride integreerumisprotsessist. Erandina võib siinkohal ära märkida Riigikogu poolt 2010. aastal heaks kiidetud kriminaalpoliitika arengusuunad aastani 2018, mille põhimõtete hulgas on kajastatud tulevikuriskidega seotud valmisolek „/.../ Eestis seni veel tundmatute või vähe levinud rassilise, etnilise ja religioosse taustaga probleemide /.../ ennetamiseks ning neile reageerimiseks" (p.9). Samas kinnitab see põhimõte aga juba eeltoodud järeldust, et multikultuurse ühiskonna probleemid ei ole Eestis praegu veel eriti aktuaalsed.
Vaadates aga globaalseid trende, maailmas toimuvaid konflikte ning inimväärikust mitte toetavaid elamistingimusi Euroopa Liidu lähinaabruses, tuleb arvestada, et teistsuguse kultuurilise taustaga inimeste vool Eestisse on vaid aja küsimus. Vaatamata sellele, et seni on uusimmigrantide hulk Eestis üsna marginaalne, näitab tänane trend varjupaigataotluste hulga kiiret tõusu. Teiste riikide kogemus õpetab, et nende gruppidega tuleb tegeleda pidevalt ja kultuuride vahelise konflikti tekkimine on üks suuremaid siseriiklikke julgeolekuriske. Selleks, et riske maandada on vajalik kõiki elanikkonna gruppe kaasava turvalisuspoliitika kujundamist.
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/kodanikuhiskonna_roll_siseturvalisuse_aspektist.html
Turvalisus-, julgeoleku ja korrakaitsepoliitikate üldiseks ja laiemaks eesmärgiks võib pidada hea elukvaliteedi ja elukeskkonna tagamist, mis võimaldab riigi elanikel väärikalt ja kartmatult oma elu elada. Erinevad riigid on oma strateegiates ja põhisuundades ära märkinud kodanikuühiskonna suurt rolli ja koostöö vajadust. Multikultuurse ühiskonna mainimine sõltub riigis valitsevast kultuuride paljususest ja nende vahelisest konfliktiohust. Riskide maandamiseks peetakse oluliseks koostööd erinevate gruppide ja nende esindajatega. Kodanikuühiskonna roll turvalisuspoliitika kujundamises ja elluviimises on suurem pikaajalise demokraatiatraditsiooniga riikides.
Siseturvalisuse aspektist tuleb kodanikuühiskonna roll ja kaasamise ulatus ning olulisus selgelt esile Eesti turvalisuspoliitika arengudokumendist „Eesti turvalisuspoliitika põhisuunad aastani 2015", mis kiideti Riigikogu poolt heaks 2008. aastal. Dokumendis on turvalisuspoliitika põhisuundade seadmisel lähtutud printsiibist, mille kohaselt Eesti sisemise stabiilsuse kindlustamisel ning inimelude päästmisel ja kaitsmisel on ohtude ennetamine ja tõrjumine ning kodanike ulatuslik protsessi kaasamine oluliselt tõhusam karistusõiguslikest meetmetest, samuti on selles rõhutatud vajadust kaasata korrakaitse vahendite ja tegevuste kavandamisele ning ohtude ennetamisesse senisest suuremas ulatuses kohalikud omavalitsused ja nende liidud, kodanikeühendused ning üksikisikud. Oluliseks on ka peetud, et turvalisuspoliitika põhisuundades toodud korrakaitseliste meetmete elluviimiseks koostavate arengukavade ettevalmistamisse oleksid kaasatud nii avalik-, mittetulundus- kui erasektor. (https://www.riigiteataja.ee/akt/12979629).
Eesti turvalisuspoliitika olulisemate eesmärkidena on nimetatud järgmisi:
turvalisem tunne
ohutum liiklus
tuleohutum keskkond
kaitstum vara
vähem õnnetusi
turvalisem riik
kiirem abi
tõhusam turvalisuspoliitika
Analüüsides eesmärkide sisu võib väita, et kodanikuühiskonna kaasamist ja koostööd sellega on mainitud pea kõigi eesmärkide juures. Siiski ei ole selles eriti juttu erinevate kultuuride rollist turvalisuse tagamisel. Turvalisema tunde all on tegevusena märgitud vaid, et tõhusama lõimumisalase tegevuse tulemusena vähenevad rahvustevahelised pinged. (p.10). Sellest võiks järeldada, et erinevate kultuuride võimalikest konfliktidest tulenev oht ei ole praegu piisavalt aktuaalne ning senised Eestis elavad rahvad on ühiskonda suhteliselt hästi sulandunud. Samas aga tuleb meeles pidada „aprillirahutust" ja selle mõju turvalisuse olukorrale. See oli selge märk tuha all hõõguvast tulest ning selliste sündmuste kordumist ei saa paraku ka tulevikus välistada. 2004. aastal Riigikogu poolt heaks kiidetud Eesti Vabariigi julgeolekupoliitika alustes (p.4.1) on integratsiooniprotsess kajastatud kui õigusriigi tugevdamise ning tasakaalus ja demokraatliku kodanikuühiskonna olulist osa. Valdavalt on neis strateegiates siiski juttu vaid täna juba olemasolevaist ja Eestis pikka aega olnud kultuuride integreerumisprotsessist. Erandina võib siinkohal ära märkida Riigikogu poolt 2010. aastal heaks kiidetud kriminaalpoliitika arengusuunad aastani 2018, mille põhimõtete hulgas on kajastatud tulevikuriskidega seotud valmisolek „/.../ Eestis seni veel tundmatute või vähe levinud rassilise, etnilise ja religioosse taustaga probleemide /.../ ennetamiseks ning neile reageerimiseks" (p.9). Samas kinnitab see põhimõte aga juba eeltoodud järeldust, et multikultuurse ühiskonna probleemid ei ole Eestis praegu veel eriti aktuaalsed.
Vaadates aga globaalseid trende, maailmas toimuvaid konflikte ning inimväärikust mitte toetavaid elamistingimusi Euroopa Liidu lähinaabruses, tuleb arvestada, et teistsuguse kultuurilise taustaga inimeste vool Eestisse on vaid aja küsimus. Vaatamata sellele, et seni on uusimmigrantide hulk Eestis üsna marginaalne, näitab tänane trend varjupaigataotluste hulga kiiret tõusu. Teiste riikide kogemus õpetab, et nende gruppidega tuleb tegeleda pidevalt ja kultuuride vahelise konflikti tekkimine on üks suuremaid siseriiklikke julgeolekuriske. Selleks, et riske maandada on vajalik kõiki elanikkonna gruppe kaasava turvalisuspoliitika kujundamist.
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/kodanikuhiskonna_roll_siseturvalisuse_aspektist.html
4 March 2018 02:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Soome turvalisuspoliitika strateegilised suunad
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/soome_turvalisuspoliitika_strateegilised_suunad.html
Võrdluseks Eesti siseturvalisuse strateegiale toome Soome vastava dokumendi, milleks on Soome Siseministeeriumi poolt 2008. aastal avaldatud Siseturvalisuse kava (Sisäisen turvallisuuden ohjelma, edaspidi Kava). Kava näol on tegemist valitsuse põhimõttelise otsusega, milles on seatud siseturvalisuse arengu raskuspunktid, eesmärgid ja abinõud.
Dokumendiga on võimalik tutvuda võrgulehel: http://www.intermin.fi/intermin/hankkeet/turva/home.nsf/files/162008/$file/162008.pdf
Kava peaeesmärk on, et Soome oleks aastaks 2015. Euroopa turvalisem maa. Selle saavutamiseks kavandatud tegevused peavad olema saavutatud samuti 2015. aastaks. Märkimist väärib, et kava ettevalmistamisel osalesid seitse erinevat ekspertrühma. Ekspertrühmade koostatud lõppraportitega on võimalik tutvuda võrgulehel: http://www.intermin.fi/sisainenturvallisuus
Kava sisust nähtub selgelt, et Soome peab siseturvalisuse valdkonnas väga oluliseks just eri ametkondade koostööd. Kavas on antud siseturvalisuse kohta järgmine definitsioon: Hea siseturvalisus saab alguse mitmete eritegijate koosmõjust. Turvalisust soodustavad turvaline kodu-, elu- ja töökeskkond, toimivad põhiteenused, hästi korraldatud liikluskeskkond, abi olemasolu, kui seda vajatakse ja kindlus selles, et kurjategudes süüdimõistetud võetakse vastutusele. Siseturvalisuse osa moodustab ka valmistumine suurõnnetusteks ja tavaolukorras esile kerkida võivateks häireteks (autori tõlge ).
http://www.intermin.fi/intermin/hankkeet/turva/home.nsf/files/162008/$file/162008.pdf
Eraldi märgiks ära, et tegevuskavas on väga oluliseks peetud piirkondlike turvakavade edasiarendamist, kavas on märgitud, et just läbi piirkondlike tegevuste nähakse head võimalust vähendada õnnetusjuhtumeid, kuritegude ja avaliku korra rikkumiste määra ja lisada turvatunnet. Piirkondlike turvaplaane juhivad omavalitsuste juhid koos piirkondlike politseiüksuste ja päästeüksuste juhtidega. Koostöös osalevad veel lisaks ametnikele ka ettevõtted ja vabaühendused.
Eelnevale kommentaariks, et otsus piirkondlike turvakavade vajalikkuse kohta tehti Soomes juba 1999. aastal, selleks ajaks olid ka esimesed sellesisulised dokumendid juba olemas. Aastaks 2001 oli aga juba valminud 228 paikkondliku turvakava (Turvallisuussuunnitelmat 2001 Arviointiraportti Sisäasiainministeriö Poliisiosaston julkaisu 6/2002)
Sidusrühmade koostöö kuulub Soomes ennetustöö strateegiasse alates aastast 1987. Lähipolitseiprogrammi osana toimub sidusrühma koostöö ja kuritegevusevastases võitluses vastutuse jagamine 1990date aastate keskpaigast (ibid).
Soome kogukondliku politseitöö strateegiadokument „Community Policing strategy... 2007" toob peamiste kogukondliku politseitöö põhimõtetena: orienteeritus elanikele (politsei juhtimistavade ja organisatsiooni arendus), turvalisuse planeerimine (koostöö, info, ILP), süüteo- ja õiguserikkumiste ennetus (sh vägivalla ennetamine), kvaliteet ja tõhusus (efficiency). Uuema aja strateegilised eesmärgid on: tagada turvalisus (sh turvatunne), vähendada õiguserikkumisi, parandada politsei kohalolekut ja tegevussihti, osaleda turvaplaneeringutes ja arendada koostööd, COP praktiline rakendamine. Kogukondliku politseitöö tulevikueesmärgid on: ILP (intelligence-led policing), info operatiivne ja strateegiline analüüs, politsei kohalviibimise (presence) suurendamine, koostöövõrgustikud, protsessijuhtimise (performance management system) süsteem: võtmeprotsessid, hindamisprotsess, indikaatorid, turvalisuseuuring (security survey), statistika, politseihariduse arendamine.
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/soome_turvalisuspoliitika_strateegilised_suunad.html
Võrdluseks Eesti siseturvalisuse strateegiale toome Soome vastava dokumendi, milleks on Soome Siseministeeriumi poolt 2008. aastal avaldatud Siseturvalisuse kava (Sisäisen turvallisuuden ohjelma, edaspidi Kava). Kava näol on tegemist valitsuse põhimõttelise otsusega, milles on seatud siseturvalisuse arengu raskuspunktid, eesmärgid ja abinõud.
Dokumendiga on võimalik tutvuda võrgulehel: http://www.intermin.fi/intermin/hankkeet/turva/home.nsf/files/162008/$file/162008.pdf
Kava peaeesmärk on, et Soome oleks aastaks 2015. Euroopa turvalisem maa. Selle saavutamiseks kavandatud tegevused peavad olema saavutatud samuti 2015. aastaks. Märkimist väärib, et kava ettevalmistamisel osalesid seitse erinevat ekspertrühma. Ekspertrühmade koostatud lõppraportitega on võimalik tutvuda võrgulehel: http://www.intermin.fi/sisainenturvallisuus
Kava sisust nähtub selgelt, et Soome peab siseturvalisuse valdkonnas väga oluliseks just eri ametkondade koostööd. Kavas on antud siseturvalisuse kohta järgmine definitsioon: Hea siseturvalisus saab alguse mitmete eritegijate koosmõjust. Turvalisust soodustavad turvaline kodu-, elu- ja töökeskkond, toimivad põhiteenused, hästi korraldatud liikluskeskkond, abi olemasolu, kui seda vajatakse ja kindlus selles, et kurjategudes süüdimõistetud võetakse vastutusele. Siseturvalisuse osa moodustab ka valmistumine suurõnnetusteks ja tavaolukorras esile kerkida võivateks häireteks (autori tõlge ).
http://www.intermin.fi/intermin/hankkeet/turva/home.nsf/files/162008/$file/162008.pdf
Eraldi märgiks ära, et tegevuskavas on väga oluliseks peetud piirkondlike turvakavade edasiarendamist, kavas on märgitud, et just läbi piirkondlike tegevuste nähakse head võimalust vähendada õnnetusjuhtumeid, kuritegude ja avaliku korra rikkumiste määra ja lisada turvatunnet. Piirkondlike turvaplaane juhivad omavalitsuste juhid koos piirkondlike politseiüksuste ja päästeüksuste juhtidega. Koostöös osalevad veel lisaks ametnikele ka ettevõtted ja vabaühendused.
Eelnevale kommentaariks, et otsus piirkondlike turvakavade vajalikkuse kohta tehti Soomes juba 1999. aastal, selleks ajaks olid ka esimesed sellesisulised dokumendid juba olemas. Aastaks 2001 oli aga juba valminud 228 paikkondliku turvakava (Turvallisuussuunnitelmat 2001 Arviointiraportti Sisäasiainministeriö Poliisiosaston julkaisu 6/2002)
Sidusrühmade koostöö kuulub Soomes ennetustöö strateegiasse alates aastast 1987. Lähipolitseiprogrammi osana toimub sidusrühma koostöö ja kuritegevusevastases võitluses vastutuse jagamine 1990date aastate keskpaigast (ibid).
Soome kogukondliku politseitöö strateegiadokument „Community Policing strategy... 2007" toob peamiste kogukondliku politseitöö põhimõtetena: orienteeritus elanikele (politsei juhtimistavade ja organisatsiooni arendus), turvalisuse planeerimine (koostöö, info, ILP), süüteo- ja õiguserikkumiste ennetus (sh vägivalla ennetamine), kvaliteet ja tõhusus (efficiency). Uuema aja strateegilised eesmärgid on: tagada turvalisus (sh turvatunne), vähendada õiguserikkumisi, parandada politsei kohalolekut ja tegevussihti, osaleda turvaplaneeringutes ja arendada koostööd, COP praktiline rakendamine. Kogukondliku politseitöö tulevikueesmärgid on: ILP (intelligence-led policing), info operatiivne ja strateegiline analüüs, politsei kohalviibimise (presence) suurendamine, koostöövõrgustikud, protsessijuhtimise (performance management system) süsteem: võtmeprotsessid, hindamisprotsess, indikaatorid, turvalisuseuuring (security survey), statistika, politseihariduse arendamine.
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/soome_turvalisuspoliitika_strateegilised_suunad.html
4 March 2018 02:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Turvalisuspolitika strateegilised suunad Suurbritannia näitel
Selleks, et mõista kohalikku multikultuurse kodanikuühiskonna turvalisuspoliitikat ja selle põhisuundi, on vaja mõelda globaalsetele trendidele ning neile reageerimisele. Näitena teiste riikide lähenemisest võiks siinkohal vaadelda Suurbritannia Ühendkuningriigi julgeolekustrateegiat (edaspidi NSSUK), mida esitleti parlamendile 2008. aastal. Dokument on Eesti turvalisuspoliitika põhisuundadest oluliselt mahukam (64 lk) ja sisaldab viite peatükki (sissejuhatus, põhisuunad ja printsiibid, turvalisusprobleemid, Ühendkuningriigi tegevused nende lahendamiseks, koostöö). Vt täisteksti siit:
http://interactive.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/documents/security/national_security_strategy.pdf
Peamine strateegia teravik on küll suunatud ohtudele, mis on seotud arengutega välismaal, kuid seal on puudutatud ka siseriiklikke probleeme ning seega väärib see analüüsimist. Selle punkt 1.1 asetab turvalisuse valitsuse kõige tähtsamsaks ülesandeks: Valitsuse kõige olulisem vastutus seisneb turvalisuse pakkumises riigile ja selle rahvale. Selles tõdetakse, et arusaam riiklikust julgeolekust ja turvalisusest on viimaste aastakümnete jooksul oluliselt muutunud ning julgeolekustrateegia keskmes ei ole enam ainult välisriigi poolse rünnaku oht riigile vaid see hõlmab üksikisikute turvalisust ning elamise kvaliteeti ning riigi terviklikkust ja huve. Seetõttu tuleb riigi julgeoleku kontekstis lisaks traditsioonilistele sõja- ja terroriohule rääkida ka piiriülesest kuritegevusest, pandeemiatest, loodusõnnetustest ning muust sarnasest (NSSUK 2008:3-4).
Siinkohal on paslik ära mainida, et Euroopa Julgeolekustrateegia (2003) räägib samuti, et traditsioonilised sõjalised ohud liikmesriikide osas on tagasihoidlikud ja märgib viimase aja tendentse arvestades võtmeohuna religioonide konfliktidest tulenevat terrorismi ohtu. Põhjustena nimetatakse seal muuhulgas kultuurilisi, poliitilisi, sotsiaalseid kriise ning välismaistes ühiskondades elavaid võõranduvaid noori. Need probleemid on saanud ka EL riikide endi ühiskondade osaks. Euroopa on olnud rünnakute sihtmärgiks, kuid paraku ka baasiks. NSSUK märgib, et rahvusvahelised ohud nõuavad rahvusvahelist vastutegevust, kuid välistegevused ja sisetegevused peavad käima käsikäes ning globaliseeruvas maailmas ei saa neile selget joont vahele tõmmata. Siseriiklikult peetakse turvalisuse tagamisel väga oluliseks laia partnerlust avaliku, era- ja kolmanda sektori vahel, sest ainult nii on võimalik inimeste käitumist ja hoiakuid muuta ning seeläbi ohte ja riske vähendada. Samuti aitab koostöö riskide realiseerumisel vähendada raskeid tagajärgi ning tõhustada reageerimist. (NSSUK 2008:7-8) Olulisemate riskidena ja ohtudena on dokumendis nimetatud terrorismi, massihävitusrelvade levikut, piiriülest organiseeritud kuritegevust, globaalset ebastabiilsust ja konflikte, loodusest ja haigustest tulenevaid hädaolukordi, välisriikidest tulenevaid ohte, uusi väljakutseid rahvusvahelistele süsteemidele või organisatsioonidele, kliimamuutusi, võitlust piisavas koguses energia saamise nimel, vaesust, ebavõrdust ja kehva valitsemist, globaalseid trende. Leitakse, et need riskid ja ohud on rahvusvahelise iseloomuga ja omavahel seotud ning et need on nn „mitteriigilised". Lahendusena on strateegias välja pakutud integreeritud lähenemist CONTEST (Cross-Government Counterterrorism Strategy), milles on neli töövoolu: jälgi, kaitse, valmistu, enneta. Neisse on kaasatud ka kodanikuühiskond. (NSSUK 2008:25-26) Viimases peatükis on keskendutud koostööle nii valitsuses, riikide, rahvusvaheliste organisatsioonide tasandil, kui ka indiviidide ja kogukondade tasandil. Muuhulgas on öeldud, et üksikisikutel on riikliku julgeoleku tagamisel täita olemuslik roll. (NSSUK 2008:59)
Kodanikuühiskonna kaasamist ja politsei suuremat vastutust kohaliku kogukonna turvalisuse eest puudutab ka teine Ühendkuningriigi strateegiline konsultatsioonidokument: Policing in the 21st Century (2010). Kuigi dokument on suures osas suunatud politsei ümberorganiseerimisele, on seal siiski palju kirjeldatud ka üldisi turvalisuspoliitika suundi. Selles kritiseeritakse olukorda, kus peale 2001. aastat on Briti politsei läinud liigse tsentraliseerimise suunas ning eesmärgiks on võetud minna tagasi juurte juurde. Kahe aasta jooksul tahetakse Briti politseisüsteemi põhjalikult reformida ja suurendada kohalike politseiorganisatsioonide vastutust kogukonna ees. Suurt rõhku on pandud koostööle kogukonnaga, vabatahtlike kaasamisele, kogukonna rolli suurendamisele otsustusprotsessides, politsei bürokraatia vähendamisele (et ametnikud tagasi tänavale saada), erinevate üksuste koostoimele jms. 5. peatükk „Koos kuritegevuse vastu" kirjeldab põhjalikult kodanikuühiskonna rolli turvalisuse tagamisel. Politseile on pandud kohustus inimesi veelgi aktiivsemalt kaasata, et oma tööd hästi teha ja turvalisust tagada. Riiklike kuritegevuse sihtmärkide kõrval tahetakse enam toetada erinevate organisatsioonide koostööd vältimaks korduvrikkumisi. Enam soovitakse rõhuda tulemusele, mitte selle saavutamise protsessile. Nende muutuste kaudu loodetakse saavutada tõsta rahva usaldust õiguskaitse süsteemi vastu ning tõsta inimeste tahet ja võimekust kanda Suure Ühiskonna osana aktiivset rolli turvalisuse loomisel. Kõike seda loodetakse kätte võita läbi inimeste osalemise võimaldamise ja julgustamise ning naabruskonna aktivistide mobiliseerimise, partnerlust segavate ettekirjutuste ja bürokraatlike tõkete vähendamise, kriminaalõiguse süsteemi arendamise ja reformimise. Samuti leitakse, et naabruskonnad ongi peamised kodanikuühiskonna ehitusblokid ning seetõttu tuleb nende rolli oluliselt suurendada. Oodatakse paremat koostööd kohalike asutuste vahel (Community Safety Partnership). Aktiivsetele kodanikele pakutakse võimalust korrakaitses erineval viisil kaasa lüüa (nt osalemine eksperdina noorte sõltumatu nõustamise kogu liikmena, osalemine ühistes patrullides koos piirkonnapolitseinikega jne). Erikonstaablite (special constable) ja muude vabatahtlike hulka soovitakse suurendada. Tahetakse toetada kodanikuühiskonna organisatsioone, kes tahavad ja suudavad midagi muuta. Dokumendis on põgusalt mainitud ka see, et politseiametnike koosseis peab väljendama kogukonna elanike jaotuvust ehk et seal peaks olema proportsionaalselt erikultuuride ja soo esindajaid. (Policing in 21st Century... 16.06.2011) Konsultatsioonide tulemusena valmis eelnõu „Politseireform ja sotsiaalne vastutus", mille arutelu jätkus parlamendis. Eelnõu täisteksti seisuga 17.06.2011 saab näha:
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/turvalisuspolitika_strateegilised_suunad_suurbritannia_nitel.html
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/lbill/2010-2012/0077/2012077.pdf
Selleks, et mõista kohalikku multikultuurse kodanikuühiskonna turvalisuspoliitikat ja selle põhisuundi, on vaja mõelda globaalsetele trendidele ning neile reageerimisele. Näitena teiste riikide lähenemisest võiks siinkohal vaadelda Suurbritannia Ühendkuningriigi julgeolekustrateegiat (edaspidi NSSUK), mida esitleti parlamendile 2008. aastal. Dokument on Eesti turvalisuspoliitika põhisuundadest oluliselt mahukam (64 lk) ja sisaldab viite peatükki (sissejuhatus, põhisuunad ja printsiibid, turvalisusprobleemid, Ühendkuningriigi tegevused nende lahendamiseks, koostöö). Vt täisteksti siit:
http://interactive.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/documents/security/national_security_strategy.pdf
Peamine strateegia teravik on küll suunatud ohtudele, mis on seotud arengutega välismaal, kuid seal on puudutatud ka siseriiklikke probleeme ning seega väärib see analüüsimist. Selle punkt 1.1 asetab turvalisuse valitsuse kõige tähtsamsaks ülesandeks: Valitsuse kõige olulisem vastutus seisneb turvalisuse pakkumises riigile ja selle rahvale. Selles tõdetakse, et arusaam riiklikust julgeolekust ja turvalisusest on viimaste aastakümnete jooksul oluliselt muutunud ning julgeolekustrateegia keskmes ei ole enam ainult välisriigi poolse rünnaku oht riigile vaid see hõlmab üksikisikute turvalisust ning elamise kvaliteeti ning riigi terviklikkust ja huve. Seetõttu tuleb riigi julgeoleku kontekstis lisaks traditsioonilistele sõja- ja terroriohule rääkida ka piiriülesest kuritegevusest, pandeemiatest, loodusõnnetustest ning muust sarnasest (NSSUK 2008:3-4).
Siinkohal on paslik ära mainida, et Euroopa Julgeolekustrateegia (2003) räägib samuti, et traditsioonilised sõjalised ohud liikmesriikide osas on tagasihoidlikud ja märgib viimase aja tendentse arvestades võtmeohuna religioonide konfliktidest tulenevat terrorismi ohtu. Põhjustena nimetatakse seal muuhulgas kultuurilisi, poliitilisi, sotsiaalseid kriise ning välismaistes ühiskondades elavaid võõranduvaid noori. Need probleemid on saanud ka EL riikide endi ühiskondade osaks. Euroopa on olnud rünnakute sihtmärgiks, kuid paraku ka baasiks. NSSUK märgib, et rahvusvahelised ohud nõuavad rahvusvahelist vastutegevust, kuid välistegevused ja sisetegevused peavad käima käsikäes ning globaliseeruvas maailmas ei saa neile selget joont vahele tõmmata. Siseriiklikult peetakse turvalisuse tagamisel väga oluliseks laia partnerlust avaliku, era- ja kolmanda sektori vahel, sest ainult nii on võimalik inimeste käitumist ja hoiakuid muuta ning seeläbi ohte ja riske vähendada. Samuti aitab koostöö riskide realiseerumisel vähendada raskeid tagajärgi ning tõhustada reageerimist. (NSSUK 2008:7-8) Olulisemate riskidena ja ohtudena on dokumendis nimetatud terrorismi, massihävitusrelvade levikut, piiriülest organiseeritud kuritegevust, globaalset ebastabiilsust ja konflikte, loodusest ja haigustest tulenevaid hädaolukordi, välisriikidest tulenevaid ohte, uusi väljakutseid rahvusvahelistele süsteemidele või organisatsioonidele, kliimamuutusi, võitlust piisavas koguses energia saamise nimel, vaesust, ebavõrdust ja kehva valitsemist, globaalseid trende. Leitakse, et need riskid ja ohud on rahvusvahelise iseloomuga ja omavahel seotud ning et need on nn „mitteriigilised". Lahendusena on strateegias välja pakutud integreeritud lähenemist CONTEST (Cross-Government Counterterrorism Strategy), milles on neli töövoolu: jälgi, kaitse, valmistu, enneta. Neisse on kaasatud ka kodanikuühiskond. (NSSUK 2008:25-26) Viimases peatükis on keskendutud koostööle nii valitsuses, riikide, rahvusvaheliste organisatsioonide tasandil, kui ka indiviidide ja kogukondade tasandil. Muuhulgas on öeldud, et üksikisikutel on riikliku julgeoleku tagamisel täita olemuslik roll. (NSSUK 2008:59)
Kodanikuühiskonna kaasamist ja politsei suuremat vastutust kohaliku kogukonna turvalisuse eest puudutab ka teine Ühendkuningriigi strateegiline konsultatsioonidokument: Policing in the 21st Century (2010). Kuigi dokument on suures osas suunatud politsei ümberorganiseerimisele, on seal siiski palju kirjeldatud ka üldisi turvalisuspoliitika suundi. Selles kritiseeritakse olukorda, kus peale 2001. aastat on Briti politsei läinud liigse tsentraliseerimise suunas ning eesmärgiks on võetud minna tagasi juurte juurde. Kahe aasta jooksul tahetakse Briti politseisüsteemi põhjalikult reformida ja suurendada kohalike politseiorganisatsioonide vastutust kogukonna ees. Suurt rõhku on pandud koostööle kogukonnaga, vabatahtlike kaasamisele, kogukonna rolli suurendamisele otsustusprotsessides, politsei bürokraatia vähendamisele (et ametnikud tagasi tänavale saada), erinevate üksuste koostoimele jms. 5. peatükk „Koos kuritegevuse vastu" kirjeldab põhjalikult kodanikuühiskonna rolli turvalisuse tagamisel. Politseile on pandud kohustus inimesi veelgi aktiivsemalt kaasata, et oma tööd hästi teha ja turvalisust tagada. Riiklike kuritegevuse sihtmärkide kõrval tahetakse enam toetada erinevate organisatsioonide koostööd vältimaks korduvrikkumisi. Enam soovitakse rõhuda tulemusele, mitte selle saavutamise protsessile. Nende muutuste kaudu loodetakse saavutada tõsta rahva usaldust õiguskaitse süsteemi vastu ning tõsta inimeste tahet ja võimekust kanda Suure Ühiskonna osana aktiivset rolli turvalisuse loomisel. Kõike seda loodetakse kätte võita läbi inimeste osalemise võimaldamise ja julgustamise ning naabruskonna aktivistide mobiliseerimise, partnerlust segavate ettekirjutuste ja bürokraatlike tõkete vähendamise, kriminaalõiguse süsteemi arendamise ja reformimise. Samuti leitakse, et naabruskonnad ongi peamised kodanikuühiskonna ehitusblokid ning seetõttu tuleb nende rolli oluliselt suurendada. Oodatakse paremat koostööd kohalike asutuste vahel (Community Safety Partnership). Aktiivsetele kodanikele pakutakse võimalust korrakaitses erineval viisil kaasa lüüa (nt osalemine eksperdina noorte sõltumatu nõustamise kogu liikmena, osalemine ühistes patrullides koos piirkonnapolitseinikega jne). Erikonstaablite (special constable) ja muude vabatahtlike hulka soovitakse suurendada. Tahetakse toetada kodanikuühiskonna organisatsioone, kes tahavad ja suudavad midagi muuta. Dokumendis on põgusalt mainitud ka see, et politseiametnike koosseis peab väljendama kogukonna elanike jaotuvust ehk et seal peaks olema proportsionaalselt erikultuuride ja soo esindajaid. (Policing in 21st Century... 16.06.2011) Konsultatsioonide tulemusena valmis eelnõu „Politseireform ja sotsiaalne vastutus", mille arutelu jätkus parlamendis. Eelnõu täisteksti seisuga 17.06.2011 saab näha:
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/turvalisuspolitika_strateegilised_suunad_suurbritannia_nitel.html
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/lbill/2010-2012/0077/2012077.pdf
4 March 2018 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10.02.2011. aastal kiitis Vabariigi Valitsus heaks „Kodanikuühiskonna arengukava 2011-2014" ja selle rakendusplaani. Arengukava peaks andma Eesti riigile ühtsed alused kodanikuühiskonna arengule kaasa aitamisel ning kodanikualgatust soodustava keskkonna kujundamisele (http://www.siseministeerium.ee/kodar/).
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http://www.siseministeerium.ee/kodar/
4 March 2018 01:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Politsei tegevusprintsiibid kodanikuühiskonnas
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/politsei_tegevusprintsiibid_kodanikuhiskonnas.htm
Kui varem lähtus politseiõigus käsitlusest, et riik valitseb oma kodanike kui võimule allutatud alamate üle ja seadusandja pidi hoolitsema ainult reeglite kehtestamise eest, mis hoiavad ära võimu kuritarvitamise politsei poolt, siis tänapäevases demokraatiakäsitluses ei ole riik ja ühiskond enam vastandid, vaid ühiskond on riigi alustala. Riigivõim lähtub rahvast, riik tugineb rahvale (Schwemer, 2004). Õigusriigi aluspõhimõte lausa keelab riigil oma kõikvõimsuses kodanikule vastanduda. Sellega haakub ka põhimõte, millest valdavalt ka tänapäevase demokraatiaga riigid lähtuvad, et ühel haldusorganil ei tohi olla kõikehõlmavat ja jagamatut võimupädevust.
Tänased demokraatia suundumused on nii teoreetilistes aruteludes kui erinevate riikide igapäevastes riigielu korraldustes toonud esindusdemokraatiasse aina enam osalusdemokraatia põhimõtteid (Lepa, Illing, Kasemets, Lepp, Kallaste, 2004). Osalusdemokraatias aga peetakse väga oluliseks avaliku-, era- ja mittetulundussektori vahelisi partnerlussuhteid. Muidugi tuleb silmas pidada, et poliitilisest kaasamisest ei saa rääkida kui võrdsete partnerite suhtlemisest: riik on alati tugevama positsioonil, mis eeldab riigilt ka aktiivset, teadlikku ning ennetavat käitumist, et luua kaasamisprotsessis võimalikult võrdsed positsioonid nii erinevatele huvirühmadele kui igale kodanikule individuaalselt (ibid).
Võib väita, et Eestil on ligi saja-aastane kogemus vabatahtlike kaasamisel korrakaitsetöösse. Näiteks enamik meist on kuulnud enne 1920-ndaid aastaid loodud Tartu vabatahtlikust rahvamiilitsast, 1920- ndate aastate keskel loodud Kaitseliidust koos allorganisatsioonide Kodutütarde ja Skautidega, nõukogude okupatsiooniaegsetest rahvamalevlastest, ühiskondlikest liiklusinspektoritest ja n-ö šeflusest, Eesti taasiseseisvumise ajal loodud Kodukaitsest, abipolitseinikest, vabatahtlikest päästjatest jne. Hoolimata sellest, et vabatahtlikega koostöö vorm ja eesmärgid on olnud ajastule iseloomulikud, võib väita, et läbi aegade ja eriti just ühiskonnale olulistes pöördelistes olukordades on Eestis alati vähem või rohkem toetutud vabatahtlike ja nende ühendustega koostööle. Vt lähemalt Vennikas, P. (2004) magistritööd „Korrakaitsestruktuuride ja vabatahtlike koostöö avaliku korra kaitsel". Tallinna Tehnikaülikool.
Eesti Riigikogu kiitis 2002. aastal heaks kodanikuühiskonna arengu kontseptsiooni. Selles on toodud, et kodanikeühiskonna ja demokraatia kindlustamise kaudu saavad ühiskonnaliikmed ja nende ühendused ning avalik võim töötada üheskoos Eesti Vabariigi põhiseaduses sätestatud põhiväärtuste: vabaduse, õigluse ja õiguse, sisemise ja välise rahu, ühiskondliku edu ja üldise kasu ning eesti rahvuse ja kultuuri kestmise nimel (http://www.siseministeerium.ee/30410/). Eeltoodu põhjal näeme, et demokraatlikus riigikorralduses ei ole siseturvalisuse ja julgeoleku tagamine kodanikuühiskonnast eraldiseisev osa, vaid see kuulub selle juurde.
Oma olemuselt on kodanikuühiskond väga lai mõiste ja puudutab tegelikkuses meid kõiki. Sisu poolest on see ühiskonnavorm, kus inimeste põhiõigused ja -vabadused on kaitstud ning kus on võimalik osaleda erinevates ühiskonnaelu protsessides ja mõjutada poliitilisi otsuseid. Kodanikuühiskonnas on määrav, et toimuks inimeste omaalgatuslik koostöö oma huvide järgimiseks ning avalike asjade arutamiseks ja otsustamises osalemiseks.
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10.02.2011. aastal kiitis Vabariigi Valitsus heaks „Kodanikuühiskonna arengukava 2011-2014" ja selle rakendusplaani. Arengukava peaks andma Eesti riigile ühtsed alused kodanikuühiskonna arengule kaasa aitamisel ning kodanikualgatust soodustava keskkonna kujundamisele (http://www.siseministeerium.ee/kodar/).
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/politsei_tegevusprintsiibid_kodanikuhiskonnas.htm
Kui varem lähtus politseiõigus käsitlusest, et riik valitseb oma kodanike kui võimule allutatud alamate üle ja seadusandja pidi hoolitsema ainult reeglite kehtestamise eest, mis hoiavad ära võimu kuritarvitamise politsei poolt, siis tänapäevases demokraatiakäsitluses ei ole riik ja ühiskond enam vastandid, vaid ühiskond on riigi alustala. Riigivõim lähtub rahvast, riik tugineb rahvale (Schwemer, 2004). Õigusriigi aluspõhimõte lausa keelab riigil oma kõikvõimsuses kodanikule vastanduda. Sellega haakub ka põhimõte, millest valdavalt ka tänapäevase demokraatiaga riigid lähtuvad, et ühel haldusorganil ei tohi olla kõikehõlmavat ja jagamatut võimupädevust.
Tänased demokraatia suundumused on nii teoreetilistes aruteludes kui erinevate riikide igapäevastes riigielu korraldustes toonud esindusdemokraatiasse aina enam osalusdemokraatia põhimõtteid (Lepa, Illing, Kasemets, Lepp, Kallaste, 2004). Osalusdemokraatias aga peetakse väga oluliseks avaliku-, era- ja mittetulundussektori vahelisi partnerlussuhteid. Muidugi tuleb silmas pidada, et poliitilisest kaasamisest ei saa rääkida kui võrdsete partnerite suhtlemisest: riik on alati tugevama positsioonil, mis eeldab riigilt ka aktiivset, teadlikku ning ennetavat käitumist, et luua kaasamisprotsessis võimalikult võrdsed positsioonid nii erinevatele huvirühmadele kui igale kodanikule individuaalselt (ibid).
Võib väita, et Eestil on ligi saja-aastane kogemus vabatahtlike kaasamisel korrakaitsetöösse. Näiteks enamik meist on kuulnud enne 1920-ndaid aastaid loodud Tartu vabatahtlikust rahvamiilitsast, 1920- ndate aastate keskel loodud Kaitseliidust koos allorganisatsioonide Kodutütarde ja Skautidega, nõukogude okupatsiooniaegsetest rahvamalevlastest, ühiskondlikest liiklusinspektoritest ja n-ö šeflusest, Eesti taasiseseisvumise ajal loodud Kodukaitsest, abipolitseinikest, vabatahtlikest päästjatest jne. Hoolimata sellest, et vabatahtlikega koostöö vorm ja eesmärgid on olnud ajastule iseloomulikud, võib väita, et läbi aegade ja eriti just ühiskonnale olulistes pöördelistes olukordades on Eestis alati vähem või rohkem toetutud vabatahtlike ja nende ühendustega koostööle. Vt lähemalt Vennikas, P. (2004) magistritööd „Korrakaitsestruktuuride ja vabatahtlike koostöö avaliku korra kaitsel". Tallinna Tehnikaülikool.
Eesti Riigikogu kiitis 2002. aastal heaks kodanikuühiskonna arengu kontseptsiooni. Selles on toodud, et kodanikeühiskonna ja demokraatia kindlustamise kaudu saavad ühiskonnaliikmed ja nende ühendused ning avalik võim töötada üheskoos Eesti Vabariigi põhiseaduses sätestatud põhiväärtuste: vabaduse, õigluse ja õiguse, sisemise ja välise rahu, ühiskondliku edu ja üldise kasu ning eesti rahvuse ja kultuuri kestmise nimel (http://www.siseministeerium.ee/30410/). Eeltoodu põhjal näeme, et demokraatlikus riigikorralduses ei ole siseturvalisuse ja julgeoleku tagamine kodanikuühiskonnast eraldiseisev osa, vaid see kuulub selle juurde.
Oma olemuselt on kodanikuühiskond väga lai mõiste ja puudutab tegelikkuses meid kõiki. Sisu poolest on see ühiskonnavorm, kus inimeste põhiõigused ja -vabadused on kaitstud ning kus on võimalik osaleda erinevates ühiskonnaelu protsessides ja mõjutada poliitilisi otsuseid. Kodanikuühiskonnas on määrav, et toimuks inimeste omaalgatuslik koostöö oma huvide järgimiseks ning avalike asjade arutamiseks ja otsustamises osalemiseks.
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10.02.2011. aastal kiitis Vabariigi Valitsus heaks „Kodanikuühiskonna arengukava 2011-2014" ja selle rakendusplaani. Arengukava peaks andma Eesti riigile ühtsed alused kodanikuühiskonna arengule kaasa aitamisel ning kodanikualgatust soodustava keskkonna kujundamisele (http://www.siseministeerium.ee/kodar/).
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/politsei_tegevusprintsiibid_kodanikuhiskonnas.htm
4 March 2018 01:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lääne politseiprefekt Priit Suve on võrrelnud organisatsiooni vajaduste muutumist politseinike haridustasemes (vt allolevat joonist).
Reageeriv, militaarorganisatsioon
1829
Politseinikud kui „käsitöölised"
ennetav, tsiviilorganisatsioon
2011
kõrghariduse väärtustamine
// mis KÕrghariduse väärtustmaine ??? Nagu see põhisuund oleks, mida vaja politseinikutel, kas tõesti asjalikumat erisuunda siis pole kuhu aega ja resurssi panna, .... aeh.. ammu vaja hoopis asjakohalisemat haridussüsteeem alguses,t maast ülesse vaja ehtiada,,, kus kõigil oelks MEIE maailmavaate õpetus ja sektsioonid mida vaja ning omavahelise ühiduvuse tunnid.
...kõrghariduse väärtustmaine.. siis aja neid politseinike tikutulega takka
Ega nad mul siin filosofeerima ja iPade parandama tule, et kõrgharidust vaja,
politsei kõrgharidus peab olema kodumeelsus, selgemeelsus, nui ja õiglustune (mis tegelikult peale nuia, muidugi kõik kolm sama asja)
// okey või siis tehtku eraldi, korrakaitsjad ja politseinukud, las politsienikud siis olla kõrgmoraaaliga, et mingi bemmivennad enast üle ei mõtleks rikka pappa koolist tulles
kuid korrakaitsmiseks enamasti pisanud vanalajal jahipüssist ja sõrussuhetest , heinahang ka vahest
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/politseiorganisatsiooni_arengujrkude_vrdlus.html
Reageeriv, militaarorganisatsioon
1829
Politseinikud kui „käsitöölised"
ennetav, tsiviilorganisatsioon
2011
kõrghariduse väärtustamine
// mis KÕrghariduse väärtustmaine ??? Nagu see põhisuund oleks, mida vaja politseinikutel, kas tõesti asjalikumat erisuunda siis pole kuhu aega ja resurssi panna, .... aeh.. ammu vaja hoopis asjakohalisemat haridussüsteeem alguses,t maast ülesse vaja ehtiada,,, kus kõigil oelks MEIE maailmavaate õpetus ja sektsioonid mida vaja ning omavahelise ühiduvuse tunnid.
...kõrghariduse väärtustmaine.. siis aja neid politseinike tikutulega takka
Ega nad mul siin filosofeerima ja iPade parandama tule, et kõrgharidust vaja,
politsei kõrgharidus peab olema kodumeelsus, selgemeelsus, nui ja õiglustune (mis tegelikult peale nuia, muidugi kõik kolm sama asja)
// okey või siis tehtku eraldi, korrakaitsjad ja politseinukud, las politsienikud siis olla kõrgmoraaaliga, et mingi bemmivennad enast üle ei mõtleks rikka pappa koolist tulles
kuid korrakaitsmiseks enamasti pisanud vanalajal jahipüssist ja sõrussuhetest , heinahang ka vahest
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/politseiorganisatsiooni_arengujrkude_vrdlus.html
4 March 2018 01:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Samas võib kogukonnakesksete strateegiatena käsitleda ka näiteks Suurbritannia politsei n-ö rahvuslikust infomudelist NIM n-ö välja kasvanud ILP (intelligence-led policing) mudelit, mille peamine eesmärk on kuritegeliku maailma mõjutamine info kogumise, tõlgendamise, analüüsimise ja vajalikele otsustajatele edastamise baasil. Näiteks politseinik kogub kuritegelike jõukude kohta infot, seda analüüsitakse ning n-ö jõugu ninamehed pannakse vangi, et vähendada nende mõju grupile ja ühtlasi vähendada seeläbi ka kuritegevust.
Bullock (2006) väidab, et probleemikeskse politseitöö eesmärk on vähendada kuritegevust ja säilitada korda, k.a. muude juhtumite lahendamine, nt laste kadumine, liiklusõnnetused. Oluline on muuta tingimusi, mis soodustavad kuritegevuse korduvaid probleeme, sh
nt kõrtsikaklused, narkourkad jmt. Oluline on otsida partnereid ja luua partnerlussuhteid.
Mida tähendab probleemikeskne strateegia?
Bullocki (2006) sõnul on probleemi lahendusprotsess järgmine: probleemi identifitseerimine, analüüsimine, vastumeetme määramine, tagajärgede hindamine (Goldstein 1979, 1990), vahendite ja tehnikate määratlemine, individuaalsete intsidentide süstematiseerimine (eesmärgistamine, nt sama probleemiga helistavad kodanikud). Ta ütleb, et kõige olulisem on lahendada probleeme, mis on: paljude arvates suur probleem ja põhjustab suurt majanduslikku kahju, tekitab kõige rohkem ebakindlust, hirmu, mille tase väga kõrge võrreldes teiste piirkondadega, millel on negatiivne arengutrend, mis on kontsentreerunud teatud kohtadele ja/või alale; mida on kergem ennetada, mis on suunatud sageli ohvriks langevatele isikutele või gruppidele, mis on sõlmprobleemid, millele tavalised meetmed ei ole mõjunud, kus on ennustatav sarnaste probleemide tulv.
Samas on tegelikult paljud kogukondliku strateegia (COP) elemendid sama vanad kui tänapäeva politseisüsteemid. Politseitegevuse arendajana tuntud omaaegne Inglismaa peaminister sir Robert Peel on rõhutanud politsei ennetava töö tähtsust juba sel ajal, kui Londoni metropolipolitsei (London Metropolitan Police) 19. Sajandi alguses loodi (Metropolitan Police Act 1829) (Politseiõpik „Lähipolitsei kui lähenemisviis", 2000).
Politseitegevuse põhimõtted, mis Peel 19. sajandi alguses esitas, korduvad sageli peaaegu esialgsel kujul paljudes 1980 - ndate ja 1990 - ndate aastate lähipolitseitegevust käsitlevates tekstides ja ka enamus Inglismaa politseiülemate aastaaruannetes.
„Peel's Principles of Policing" aastast 1829 toob muuhulgas esile järgmised põhimõtted:
• Politsei peamine ülesanne on kuritegevust ja korrarikkumisi ära hoida alternatiivina repressiivsele tegevusele ja karistusele.
• Politsei võime täita oma ülesandeid sõltub sellest, kas ühiskond lepib politsei olemasoluga, tema tegevuse ja käitumisega, samuti politsei võimest tagada ühiskonna julgeolek ja pälvida ühiskonna lugupidamine.
• Politsei peab tagama ühiskonna soovi teha koostööd ja osaleda vabatahtlikus seaduslikkuse järelvalves.
• Politsei peab alati hoidma häid suhteid ühiskonnaga ja pidama meeles, et ta on üks osa ühiskonnast.
• Politsei efektiivsuse indikaatoriks on kuritegevuse ja korrarikkumiste puudumine, mitte niivõrd otsene politseitegevus nende saavutamiseks.
(Politseiõpik „Lähipolitsei kui lähenemisviis", 2000)
Virta (2000: 68- 80) väitel on lähipolitsei (kogukondliku politsei) strateegiate kriitika selles, et a) kardetakse, et politsei n-ö sulandub ka paljudesse teistesse, uutesse valdkondadesse ning sekkumist seni privaatsetesse sfääridesse; b) n-ö halli tsooni tekkimine, kuna kaovad piirid sotsiaalse kontrolli mõjutegurite vahel, mistõttu pole selge, kes keda kontrollib (nt naabrusvalve, kus kaob piir era- ja avaliku sfääri vahel). Lähipolitseitegevus on vähem normeeritud, kui n-ö traditsiooniline politseitegevus ehk politseinik saab otsustus- ja sunniõigust vabamalt rakendada.
Bullock (2006) väidab, et probleemikeskse politseitöö eesmärk on vähendada kuritegevust ja säilitada korda, k.a. muude juhtumite lahendamine, nt laste kadumine, liiklusõnnetused. Oluline on muuta tingimusi, mis soodustavad kuritegevuse korduvaid probleeme, sh
nt kõrtsikaklused, narkourkad jmt. Oluline on otsida partnereid ja luua partnerlussuhteid.
Mida tähendab probleemikeskne strateegia?
Bullocki (2006) sõnul on probleemi lahendusprotsess järgmine: probleemi identifitseerimine, analüüsimine, vastumeetme määramine, tagajärgede hindamine (Goldstein 1979, 1990), vahendite ja tehnikate määratlemine, individuaalsete intsidentide süstematiseerimine (eesmärgistamine, nt sama probleemiga helistavad kodanikud). Ta ütleb, et kõige olulisem on lahendada probleeme, mis on: paljude arvates suur probleem ja põhjustab suurt majanduslikku kahju, tekitab kõige rohkem ebakindlust, hirmu, mille tase väga kõrge võrreldes teiste piirkondadega, millel on negatiivne arengutrend, mis on kontsentreerunud teatud kohtadele ja/või alale; mida on kergem ennetada, mis on suunatud sageli ohvriks langevatele isikutele või gruppidele, mis on sõlmprobleemid, millele tavalised meetmed ei ole mõjunud, kus on ennustatav sarnaste probleemide tulv.
Samas on tegelikult paljud kogukondliku strateegia (COP) elemendid sama vanad kui tänapäeva politseisüsteemid. Politseitegevuse arendajana tuntud omaaegne Inglismaa peaminister sir Robert Peel on rõhutanud politsei ennetava töö tähtsust juba sel ajal, kui Londoni metropolipolitsei (London Metropolitan Police) 19. Sajandi alguses loodi (Metropolitan Police Act 1829) (Politseiõpik „Lähipolitsei kui lähenemisviis", 2000).
Politseitegevuse põhimõtted, mis Peel 19. sajandi alguses esitas, korduvad sageli peaaegu esialgsel kujul paljudes 1980 - ndate ja 1990 - ndate aastate lähipolitseitegevust käsitlevates tekstides ja ka enamus Inglismaa politseiülemate aastaaruannetes.
„Peel's Principles of Policing" aastast 1829 toob muuhulgas esile järgmised põhimõtted:
• Politsei peamine ülesanne on kuritegevust ja korrarikkumisi ära hoida alternatiivina repressiivsele tegevusele ja karistusele.
• Politsei võime täita oma ülesandeid sõltub sellest, kas ühiskond lepib politsei olemasoluga, tema tegevuse ja käitumisega, samuti politsei võimest tagada ühiskonna julgeolek ja pälvida ühiskonna lugupidamine.
• Politsei peab tagama ühiskonna soovi teha koostööd ja osaleda vabatahtlikus seaduslikkuse järelvalves.
• Politsei peab alati hoidma häid suhteid ühiskonnaga ja pidama meeles, et ta on üks osa ühiskonnast.
• Politsei efektiivsuse indikaatoriks on kuritegevuse ja korrarikkumiste puudumine, mitte niivõrd otsene politseitegevus nende saavutamiseks.
(Politseiõpik „Lähipolitsei kui lähenemisviis", 2000)
Virta (2000: 68- 80) väitel on lähipolitsei (kogukondliku politsei) strateegiate kriitika selles, et a) kardetakse, et politsei n-ö sulandub ka paljudesse teistesse, uutesse valdkondadesse ning sekkumist seni privaatsetesse sfääridesse; b) n-ö halli tsooni tekkimine, kuna kaovad piirid sotsiaalse kontrolli mõjutegurite vahel, mistõttu pole selge, kes keda kontrollib (nt naabrusvalve, kus kaob piir era- ja avaliku sfääri vahel). Lähipolitseitegevus on vähem normeeritud, kui n-ö traditsiooniline politseitegevus ehk politseinik saab otsustus- ja sunniõigust vabamalt rakendada.
4 March 2018 01:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kogukonnale suunatud tegevusfilosoofia (Community policing, edaspidi COP) hakkas tugevasti kanda kinnitama varastest 1970- ndatest aastatest (Kelling, 1988; Moore, Trojanowicz, & Kelling, 1988; Trojanowicz & Bucgueroux, 1990).
Uute tegevusfilosoofiate esilekerkimisele ja muutusteks politseis ning politseihariduses andsid tõuke mitmed ühiskondlikud tegurid. Peamisteks siin olid probleemid, mis tekkisid 1960date lõpus Lääne-Euroopas ja Ameerika Ühendriikides ning mis olid põhjustatud levima hakanud majanduslikust ja sotsiaalsest kriisis, millele järgnesid laiaulatuslikud meeleavaldused, kuid kus rahulolematute elanikkonnagruppide ohjeldamiseks kasutati kodanike vastu nn kõva käe poliitikat (Williams & Murphy , 1990; Brodeur 2005). Poliitilistest mõjuritest muutustele oli tähtsamaks veel 1980datel lääne kultuuriruumis juurduma hakanud uus avaliku halduse kontseptsioon (New Public Management), kus avaliku sektori juhtimisse juurutati erasektori juhtimistehnikaid ja turupõhimõtteid.
New Public Management (edaspidi NPM) kaudu tulid aega-mööda erinevate riikide politseipraktikatesse kasutusele sellised avaliku halduse mõisted nagu seda on tulemusjuhtimine, teeninduskvaliteet, organisatsiooni paindlikkus, detsentraliseeritus, osalusdemokraatia, elanikkonna usaldus jne.
Laitinen (2000: 10-36) kirjutab, et 1970ndatel hakati mitmel pool Euroopas ja USAs ellu viima projekte, et kuritegevust tõhusamalt kontrollida. Nt n-ö team-policing-projektid, kus keskenduti kodanikega koostööle ja lähtuti põhimõttest, et info omamine tõhustab politseitööd. Kogukonnaga koostööle suunatud n-ö lähipolitsei põhimõtteid rakendati ka Inglismaal, Rootsis, Norras, Hollandis. Virta (2000: 58-61) sõnul kasutatakse kogukondlikku korrakaitsestrateegiat rakendavat politseid ühiskonna vastuseisu murdmiseks (radikaalkriminoloogid), et suurendada politseile poolehoidu ja tagada sotsiaalne kord. Oluline on siinjuures ka see, et politsei ja kogukonnavahelistes suhetes on koostöös tähtsal kohal ka kogukonna kontroll politsei tegevuse üle. Vasakrealistid tähtsustavad kogukondlikke ennetustegevusi ja abinõusid. Skeptilis- pluralistlik lähenemisviis keskendub pigem politsei ja kogukonnavaheliste suhete n-ö lammutamisele ning ei usu ametlike algatuste ja strateegiate edusse. Näiteks 1980-ndate aastate Morgani uuring kohalike komiteede kohta, kus ta uuris infovahetust, liikmeskonna esindatust, vastastikuse mõju iseloomu, koostöökogemusi jmt. 1990-ndate aastate alguses viitab ta juba välja kujunenud võrgustikele.
COP tegevusfilosoofia võttis kasutusele detsentraliseeritud ja kontaktidele suunatud töövormid, milleks olid kohtumised elanikkonnaga, piirkonnapolitseinike programmid, rahuloluuuringud, kuritegevuse uudiskirjad, samuti motoriseerimata patrullid (jalgsi, jalgratta, jms patrullid). COP käsitluses said oluliseks informatsiooni levitamine ja probleemide lahendamisele suunatus (Skogan & Hartnett, 1997).
Virta (2000: 67) märgib, et kogukonnakeskne politseitegevuse strateegia (sh nn lähipolitseitegevus) lähtub põhimõttest, et „politsei organiseerib piirkondlikku kohalikku koostööd ning et on olemas kogukond, kus tegevus aset leiab ... Kogukonda käsitletakse siin sotsiaalselt homogeense üksusena geograafilises piirkonnas. Näiteks Põhjamaades käsitletakse lähikeskkonda n-ö ideaalmudelina, kus inimesed üksteisest tunnevad ja üksteisest hoolivad". Kogukond võtab ise vastutuse oma turvalisuse eest. Kogukonnakeskse strateegia üks põhimõtteid on ka hoolitseda (politsei)teenuste ühtlase jaotumise eest (Laitinen 2000: 28).
Willard M. Oliver, kes on põhjalikult käsitlenud kogukonnale suunatud politseitöö kontseptsiooni raamatus "Community-Oriented Policing: A Systemic Approach to Policing" toob kolm olulist politseitegevuse strateegiat, mida kogukonnakeskne (COP) tegevusfilosoofia endas kannab, need on järgmised: strateegiliselt orienteeritud /strategic-oriented policing (SOP)/; naabruskonnale orienteeritud /neighborhood-oriented policing (NOP)/ ja probleemile orienteeritud /probleem-oriented policing (POP)/. Strateegiliselt orienteeritud mudel tugineb patrullimisele ja n-ö jõu näitamisele kuriteoohtlikes piirkondades. Probleemile orienteeritud strateegia käsitleb kogukonnaga koostöös probleemide lahendamist näiteks SARA mudeli abil. (SARA on akronüüm sõnadest Scanning, Analysis, Response, Assesment, eesti keeles: selgitamine, analüüs, vastumeede, hindamine). Naabruskonnale orienteeritud mudel hõlmab lisaks eri komisjonidele ja nõukogudele, kus politsei koos kogukonnaga osaleb (nt alaealiste komisjon või KOV korrakaitse või turvakomisjonid) ka passiivsemaid koostöövorme (naabrivalvet ja nt hinnaliste asjade nummerdamist, et neid varguse korral ära tunda ja kätte saada).
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/vajadus_kogukonnakeskse_korrakaitset_jrele.html
Uute tegevusfilosoofiate esilekerkimisele ja muutusteks politseis ning politseihariduses andsid tõuke mitmed ühiskondlikud tegurid. Peamisteks siin olid probleemid, mis tekkisid 1960date lõpus Lääne-Euroopas ja Ameerika Ühendriikides ning mis olid põhjustatud levima hakanud majanduslikust ja sotsiaalsest kriisis, millele järgnesid laiaulatuslikud meeleavaldused, kuid kus rahulolematute elanikkonnagruppide ohjeldamiseks kasutati kodanike vastu nn kõva käe poliitikat (Williams & Murphy , 1990; Brodeur 2005). Poliitilistest mõjuritest muutustele oli tähtsamaks veel 1980datel lääne kultuuriruumis juurduma hakanud uus avaliku halduse kontseptsioon (New Public Management), kus avaliku sektori juhtimisse juurutati erasektori juhtimistehnikaid ja turupõhimõtteid.
New Public Management (edaspidi NPM) kaudu tulid aega-mööda erinevate riikide politseipraktikatesse kasutusele sellised avaliku halduse mõisted nagu seda on tulemusjuhtimine, teeninduskvaliteet, organisatsiooni paindlikkus, detsentraliseeritus, osalusdemokraatia, elanikkonna usaldus jne.
Laitinen (2000: 10-36) kirjutab, et 1970ndatel hakati mitmel pool Euroopas ja USAs ellu viima projekte, et kuritegevust tõhusamalt kontrollida. Nt n-ö team-policing-projektid, kus keskenduti kodanikega koostööle ja lähtuti põhimõttest, et info omamine tõhustab politseitööd. Kogukonnaga koostööle suunatud n-ö lähipolitsei põhimõtteid rakendati ka Inglismaal, Rootsis, Norras, Hollandis. Virta (2000: 58-61) sõnul kasutatakse kogukondlikku korrakaitsestrateegiat rakendavat politseid ühiskonna vastuseisu murdmiseks (radikaalkriminoloogid), et suurendada politseile poolehoidu ja tagada sotsiaalne kord. Oluline on siinjuures ka see, et politsei ja kogukonnavahelistes suhetes on koostöös tähtsal kohal ka kogukonna kontroll politsei tegevuse üle. Vasakrealistid tähtsustavad kogukondlikke ennetustegevusi ja abinõusid. Skeptilis- pluralistlik lähenemisviis keskendub pigem politsei ja kogukonnavaheliste suhete n-ö lammutamisele ning ei usu ametlike algatuste ja strateegiate edusse. Näiteks 1980-ndate aastate Morgani uuring kohalike komiteede kohta, kus ta uuris infovahetust, liikmeskonna esindatust, vastastikuse mõju iseloomu, koostöökogemusi jmt. 1990-ndate aastate alguses viitab ta juba välja kujunenud võrgustikele.
COP tegevusfilosoofia võttis kasutusele detsentraliseeritud ja kontaktidele suunatud töövormid, milleks olid kohtumised elanikkonnaga, piirkonnapolitseinike programmid, rahuloluuuringud, kuritegevuse uudiskirjad, samuti motoriseerimata patrullid (jalgsi, jalgratta, jms patrullid). COP käsitluses said oluliseks informatsiooni levitamine ja probleemide lahendamisele suunatus (Skogan & Hartnett, 1997).
Virta (2000: 67) märgib, et kogukonnakeskne politseitegevuse strateegia (sh nn lähipolitseitegevus) lähtub põhimõttest, et „politsei organiseerib piirkondlikku kohalikku koostööd ning et on olemas kogukond, kus tegevus aset leiab ... Kogukonda käsitletakse siin sotsiaalselt homogeense üksusena geograafilises piirkonnas. Näiteks Põhjamaades käsitletakse lähikeskkonda n-ö ideaalmudelina, kus inimesed üksteisest tunnevad ja üksteisest hoolivad". Kogukond võtab ise vastutuse oma turvalisuse eest. Kogukonnakeskse strateegia üks põhimõtteid on ka hoolitseda (politsei)teenuste ühtlase jaotumise eest (Laitinen 2000: 28).
Willard M. Oliver, kes on põhjalikult käsitlenud kogukonnale suunatud politseitöö kontseptsiooni raamatus "Community-Oriented Policing: A Systemic Approach to Policing" toob kolm olulist politseitegevuse strateegiat, mida kogukonnakeskne (COP) tegevusfilosoofia endas kannab, need on järgmised: strateegiliselt orienteeritud /strategic-oriented policing (SOP)/; naabruskonnale orienteeritud /neighborhood-oriented policing (NOP)/ ja probleemile orienteeritud /probleem-oriented policing (POP)/. Strateegiliselt orienteeritud mudel tugineb patrullimisele ja n-ö jõu näitamisele kuriteoohtlikes piirkondades. Probleemile orienteeritud strateegia käsitleb kogukonnaga koostöös probleemide lahendamist näiteks SARA mudeli abil. (SARA on akronüüm sõnadest Scanning, Analysis, Response, Assesment, eesti keeles: selgitamine, analüüs, vastumeede, hindamine). Naabruskonnale orienteeritud mudel hõlmab lisaks eri komisjonidele ja nõukogudele, kus politsei koos kogukonnaga osaleb (nt alaealiste komisjon või KOV korrakaitse või turvakomisjonid) ka passiivsemaid koostöövorme (naabrivalvet ja nt hinnaliste asjade nummerdamist, et neid varguse korral ära tunda ja kätte saada).
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/vajadus_kogukonnakeskse_korrakaitset_jrele.html
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4 March 2018 01:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Virta (2000: 58-64) sõnul tekkis vajadus politsei järele seoses uue, kapitalistliku majandussüsteemi sünniga, kus vajati kindlat korda, mis tasakaalustaks klassidevahelisi konflikte. Vaesemate linnaelanike arvu kiires kasvus nähti riski ja poliitilist ohtu. Politseistruktuure võib seega käsitleda nii tahte ja vabaduse kaitsjana kui ka sunnimehhanismina. Käsitlusnurk sõltub paljuski vaadeldava maa riiklik-poliitilisest struktuurist ja ühiskonna poliitilisest olukorrast. Poliitiliselt stabiilsetes maades (nt Põhjamaad) on politseinik tsiviilhaldusametnik, klassiühiskondades konflikte lahendav jõud. Moodsas politseiriigis tagab politsei võimu püsimise.
Laitineni (2000: 26-36) sõnul on traditsiooniline politseitegevus suunatud kuritegevuse kontrollimisele, mitte niivõrd selle ennetamisele. Politseid käsitletakse peamise vastutajana turvalisuse eest, põhitegevus on suunatud kurjategijate kinni pidamisele ja kuritegude avastamisele. Need on ka politseitegevuse efektiivsuse näitajad. Samuti hinnatakse politseitöö efektiivsust sündmuskohale jõudmise (reageerimise) ja juhtumi avastamiseks kuluva aja järgi. Politseiorganisatsioon väärtustab tsentraliseeritud juhtimist ja normikeskset tegevust.
Valdavalt ongi politsei oma ülesehituselt ja töökorralduselt olnud käsuliinile ja rangetele normidele rajatud sõjavälisele organisatsioonile sarnase korraldusega organisatsioon. Rahulolematus politsei tegevusega, kuritegevuse kasv ja kodanikuühiskonna areng tingisid vajaduse olulisemateks muutusteks politseis ja politseinike hariduses alles sisuliselt Teise maailmasõja järgsel perioodil.
Muudatused politsei kogukonnakesksemaks ja probleemi lahendamisele suunatumaks said Suurbritannias ja edasi Ameerika Ühendriikides vaikselt alguse pärast teist maailmasõda, kuid hoogustusid alles 1970datel (Brodeur 1998).
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/traditsiooniline_korrakaitsestrateegia.html
Laitineni (2000: 26-36) sõnul on traditsiooniline politseitegevus suunatud kuritegevuse kontrollimisele, mitte niivõrd selle ennetamisele. Politseid käsitletakse peamise vastutajana turvalisuse eest, põhitegevus on suunatud kurjategijate kinni pidamisele ja kuritegude avastamisele. Need on ka politseitegevuse efektiivsuse näitajad. Samuti hinnatakse politseitöö efektiivsust sündmuskohale jõudmise (reageerimise) ja juhtumi avastamiseks kuluva aja järgi. Politseiorganisatsioon väärtustab tsentraliseeritud juhtimist ja normikeskset tegevust.
Valdavalt ongi politsei oma ülesehituselt ja töökorralduselt olnud käsuliinile ja rangetele normidele rajatud sõjavälisele organisatsioonile sarnase korraldusega organisatsioon. Rahulolematus politsei tegevusega, kuritegevuse kasv ja kodanikuühiskonna areng tingisid vajaduse olulisemateks muutusteks politseis ja politseinike hariduses alles sisuliselt Teise maailmasõja järgsel perioodil.
Muudatused politsei kogukonnakesksemaks ja probleemi lahendamisele suunatumaks said Suurbritannias ja edasi Ameerika Ühendriikides vaikselt alguse pärast teist maailmasõda, kuid hoogustusid alles 1970datel (Brodeur 1998).
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/traditsiooniline_korrakaitsestrateegia.html
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/traditsiooniline_korrakaitsestrateegia.html
4 March 2018 01:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Riigi üks olulisemaid põhiülesandeid on tagada oma elanike turvalisus. Tulenevalt Eesti Vabariigi põhiseaduse § 13 on igaühel on õigus riigi ja seaduse kaitsele. Põhisedus märgib ka (§ 14), et õiguste ja vabaduste tagamine on seadusandliku, täidesaatva ja kohtuvõimu ning kohalike omavalitsuste kohustus. Sellest järeldub, et Eestis on isikute õiguste kaitse riigi institutsioonide ja KOV põhiülesandeks. Politsei ja piirivalve seadus ütleb (§ 1, lg. 2), et politsei on täidesaatva riigivõimu institutsioon, mis kuulub Siseministeeriumi valitsemisalasse ning kelle põhiülesanneteks on avaliku korra kaitsmine, piirihalduse asjade korraldamine, merereostuse avastamine ja likvideerimine, merel otsingu- ja päästetööde korraldamine ning kodakondsuse ja migratsiooni valdkonna asjade korraldamine. Seega võib järeldada, et õiguste kaitse ja turvalisuse tagamine on riigi ja kohaliku omavalitsuse jagatud vastutus. Riigi põhilised funktsioonid turvalisuse tagamisel saab üldjoontes liigitada kaheks: ennetamine ja järelevalve.
Teoreetilistes käsitlustes on õiguskord ja turvalisus riigi põhiline avalik kaup või teenus, mis on inimestele sama vajalik, kui juurdepääs joogiveele, elementaarsele tervishoiuteenusele ja põhiharidusele. Turvalisusteenuse pakkumine ja jagamine peab olema usaldusväärne, ühtemoodi võimalik, võrdselt ligipääsetav ning asjakohane kõigile riigi kodanikele ja elanikele. Õiguskorda ja turvalisust saab avaliku teenusena osutada kolmel viisil:
- riik pakub seda avaliku teenusena läbi oma institutsioonide ja asutuste
- riik ostab teenuse pakkujatelt teenust (outsourcing)
- mitteriiklikud võrgustikud pakuvad teenust seaduse alusel või siis praktika on nii kujunenud
Enamasti ei esine ükski neist nn „puhtal" kujul vaid need on riigiti erinevalt kombineeritud. (Scheye 2009:2) Näiteks konfliktijärgses või nõrgas riigis, kus teenused ei toimi, võivad piirkonniti elementaarset turvalisust tagada erinevad kohalikud paramilitaarsed grupid. Selline olukord valitseb paljudes maailma konfliktipiirkondades. Samas näitab see, et riigi võimetuse korral sellist teenust pakkuda tekib ühiskonnas mingi muu variant turvalisuse tagamiseks, mis omakorda tõestab teenuse vajalikkust olenemata riigi tahtest.
Arenenud riikides on riigil välja kujunenud kindel roll ja vastutus. Sõltuvalt kohaliku ühiskonna väärtustest ja traditsioonidest võib funktsiooni ulatus varieeruda. Turvalisusega seotud põhiteenuseid osutatakse valdavalt õiguskaitseorganite kaudu. Peamiseks vastutajaks on enamasti politsei või siis selle funktsioone kandev muu asutus. Scheye on liigitanud turvalisuse tagamise vahendid kolme kategooriasse:
- riigiinstitutsioonid ja -asutused, kui organisatsioonid ja indiviidid organisatsioonides, kes saavad tasu oma teenuste eest;
- eraturvaettevõtted pakuvad teenust kui toodet;
- kriminaalsed või ebaseaduslikud organisatsioonid, mis tegutsevad väljaspool seadust kas kohaliku toetusega või ilma selleta ning toodavad julgeolekut kui osa oma kuritegelikust ärist.
Ka need variandid on omavahel üsna tihti kombineeritud (Scheye 2009:3).
Kui vaadelda 90-ndate algust Eestis, siis oli julgeolek ja turvalisus just nimelt kõigi eeltoodud võimaluste kombinatsioon.
Riigi turvalisus ja julgeolek on eelduseks teiste teenuste toimimiseks ja tihti on need omavahel põimunud (nt sotsiaalteenused ja turvalisus). Ebaturvaline keskkond takistab eraettevõtlust, töökohtade loomist jms, mis tekitab probleeme riigi eelarvele ning ei võimalda osutada avalikke teenuseid, mis omakorda suurendab ebaturvalisust. Seega riigi huvi turvalisuse tagamisel on seotud eksistentsiaalsete küsimustega.
Viimastel kümnenditel on palju räägitud ka avaliku teenuse sisseostmist riigi poolt (ehk teisisõnu outsourcing) eeldusel, et eraettevõtluse olemusest tulenevalt saab teenust oluliselt efektiivsemalt pakkuda. Selle teema üle on olnud debatte erinevates riikides ning osa avalikke teenuseid on mõnel pool erasektorile üle antud (nt vangide valvamine Inglismaal). Siiski suhtutakse sellesse teemasse üsna ettevatlikult, kuna teenuse üleandmisel väheneb ka riigi kontroll selle püsivuse üle. Turvalisust ja julgeolekut tootvad erinevad riigiasutused lähtuvad oma töös seadustest, mis määratlevad nende tegevuspädevuse ja -ulatuse, ning strateegilistest tegevussuundadest. Tänapäeval on paljudes riikides lisaks täidesaatvale funktsioonile oluline ka elanikke kaasav ja võrgustikke toetav tegevus.
Kokkuvõttes võib väita, et turvalisuse tagamine on riigi üks põhiülesandeid ning riigisasutuste roll on seda tegevust eest vedada. Samas peavad riigiasutused oma funktsioonide täitmiseks tegema koostööd KOV-ga, kellega turvalisuse küsimustes vastutust jagatakse, ja teiste sektoritega.
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/riigi_roll_turvalisuse_tagamisel.html
Teoreetilistes käsitlustes on õiguskord ja turvalisus riigi põhiline avalik kaup või teenus, mis on inimestele sama vajalik, kui juurdepääs joogiveele, elementaarsele tervishoiuteenusele ja põhiharidusele. Turvalisusteenuse pakkumine ja jagamine peab olema usaldusväärne, ühtemoodi võimalik, võrdselt ligipääsetav ning asjakohane kõigile riigi kodanikele ja elanikele. Õiguskorda ja turvalisust saab avaliku teenusena osutada kolmel viisil:
- riik pakub seda avaliku teenusena läbi oma institutsioonide ja asutuste
- riik ostab teenuse pakkujatelt teenust (outsourcing)
- mitteriiklikud võrgustikud pakuvad teenust seaduse alusel või siis praktika on nii kujunenud
Enamasti ei esine ükski neist nn „puhtal" kujul vaid need on riigiti erinevalt kombineeritud. (Scheye 2009:2) Näiteks konfliktijärgses või nõrgas riigis, kus teenused ei toimi, võivad piirkonniti elementaarset turvalisust tagada erinevad kohalikud paramilitaarsed grupid. Selline olukord valitseb paljudes maailma konfliktipiirkondades. Samas näitab see, et riigi võimetuse korral sellist teenust pakkuda tekib ühiskonnas mingi muu variant turvalisuse tagamiseks, mis omakorda tõestab teenuse vajalikkust olenemata riigi tahtest.
Arenenud riikides on riigil välja kujunenud kindel roll ja vastutus. Sõltuvalt kohaliku ühiskonna väärtustest ja traditsioonidest võib funktsiooni ulatus varieeruda. Turvalisusega seotud põhiteenuseid osutatakse valdavalt õiguskaitseorganite kaudu. Peamiseks vastutajaks on enamasti politsei või siis selle funktsioone kandev muu asutus. Scheye on liigitanud turvalisuse tagamise vahendid kolme kategooriasse:
- riigiinstitutsioonid ja -asutused, kui organisatsioonid ja indiviidid organisatsioonides, kes saavad tasu oma teenuste eest;
- eraturvaettevõtted pakuvad teenust kui toodet;
- kriminaalsed või ebaseaduslikud organisatsioonid, mis tegutsevad väljaspool seadust kas kohaliku toetusega või ilma selleta ning toodavad julgeolekut kui osa oma kuritegelikust ärist.
Ka need variandid on omavahel üsna tihti kombineeritud (Scheye 2009:3).
Kui vaadelda 90-ndate algust Eestis, siis oli julgeolek ja turvalisus just nimelt kõigi eeltoodud võimaluste kombinatsioon.
Riigi turvalisus ja julgeolek on eelduseks teiste teenuste toimimiseks ja tihti on need omavahel põimunud (nt sotsiaalteenused ja turvalisus). Ebaturvaline keskkond takistab eraettevõtlust, töökohtade loomist jms, mis tekitab probleeme riigi eelarvele ning ei võimalda osutada avalikke teenuseid, mis omakorda suurendab ebaturvalisust. Seega riigi huvi turvalisuse tagamisel on seotud eksistentsiaalsete küsimustega.
Viimastel kümnenditel on palju räägitud ka avaliku teenuse sisseostmist riigi poolt (ehk teisisõnu outsourcing) eeldusel, et eraettevõtluse olemusest tulenevalt saab teenust oluliselt efektiivsemalt pakkuda. Selle teema üle on olnud debatte erinevates riikides ning osa avalikke teenuseid on mõnel pool erasektorile üle antud (nt vangide valvamine Inglismaal). Siiski suhtutakse sellesse teemasse üsna ettevatlikult, kuna teenuse üleandmisel väheneb ka riigi kontroll selle püsivuse üle. Turvalisust ja julgeolekut tootvad erinevad riigiasutused lähtuvad oma töös seadustest, mis määratlevad nende tegevuspädevuse ja -ulatuse, ning strateegilistest tegevussuundadest. Tänapäeval on paljudes riikides lisaks täidesaatvale funktsioonile oluline ka elanikke kaasav ja võrgustikke toetav tegevus.
Kokkuvõttes võib väita, et turvalisuse tagamine on riigi üks põhiülesandeid ning riigisasutuste roll on seda tegevust eest vedada. Samas peavad riigiasutused oma funktsioonide täitmiseks tegema koostööd KOV-ga, kellega turvalisuse küsimustes vastutust jagatakse, ja teiste sektoritega.
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/riigi_roll_turvalisuse_tagamisel.html
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/riigi_roll_turvalisuse_tagamisel.html
4 March 2018 01:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Politsei mõiste tänapäevases tähenduses arvatakse suuresti olevat pärit 18. sajandi lõpust, s.o arenenud välja koos modernse riigi tekkimisega. Enne 1770. aastat ei leidu politseiülesannetes sisuliselt negatiivseid formuleeringuid, nagu ka eespool põgusalt juttu oli. 1770. aastal ilmus Pariisis Sagnier' teos Code of Correction and Simple Police, milles määratleti politseid juba ka seoses repressiivse ja karistava tegevusega (Pasquino, 1991). Munitsipaaltasandil korrakaitselisi funktsioone täitvatest ametimeestest ja poliitilise salapolitsei sugemetega institutsioonidest võime muidugi rääkida ajaliselt oluliselt varem, nii näiteks oli 1221. aastaks loodud Prantsusmaal vahtmeistri ametikoht. 1600-ndatel aastatel, s.o Louis XIV valitsemise ajal, loodi aga Prantsusmaal salapolitsei. Napoleoni aegne Prantsusmaa politseiminister jagas politseifunktsioonid kahte erinevasse tasemesse:
1. korra pidamine tänavatel ja turgudel;
2. valvata, et valitsevat riigikorda miski ei ohustaks.
1754.aastaks loodi Viini politseikomissari ametikoht, mida võis lugeda esimeseks sammuks Austria ühtse riigipolitsei loomisel. Loodud sai see siiski alles 1786. aastal ja algselt hakkas see samuti täitma vaid poliitilise salapolitsei ülesandeid. Austria riigipolitsei esimesteks kohustusteks olid: välismaiste diplomaatide jälgimine, ametnike ja ohvitseride elu ja tegevuse kontrollimine. Samuti hakati värbama erinevate ühiskonnakihtide seast agente rahva meelsuse jälgimiseks (Kekkonen, 1929).
Virta (2000) sõnul tekkis 1790.a Inglismaal Marine Police- eraviisiliselt laevade lastimise valvamine Londoni sadamas. Preisi 1794.a politseil oli seaduslik staatus, mis oli riigi üldisest heaoluülesannetest eraldatud. 18. Sajandil võidutsenud paternalistlik „moraalne majandus" ehk seisukoht, mille kohaselt valitsus peaks sellepärast sekkuma, et ta teab inimestest endist paremini, mis on neile kasulik asendus 19. sajandil nn „moraalse poliitikaga". Moraalikampaaniad võitlesid orjuse, loomade julma kohtlemise ja alkoholismiga. See pani aluse vabatahtlike seltside ja ühingute tegevusele. 19. sajandil toimus ka ametikodanluse kihtide tõus ülemkihi funktsioonidesse. Üksikisikul rahateenimine ja amet, seltskondlikkus, maja kaunistamine, külastusetikett, söögirituaal- isikliku elu valdkonda. Aristokraatia püsis kõige kauem Inglismaal. Eliase (2007) sõnul 19. sajandi esimesi aastakümneid iseloomustab see, et Inglismaal leidsid aset Swingi mässud. Nende põhjuseks oli leivahinna kallinemine ja tööstustoodangu äkiline langus- mäss masinate vastu. Avalikkuse surve reformida parlamenti tugevnes.
Saksamaal alustati alates 19. sajandi keskpaigast politseiõiguse kodifitseerimisega, Lõuna-Saksamaa liidumaades tekkisid mahukad kuriteokoosseisude kataloogid, mis andsid politseile nii kuritegude jälitamise kui ka ennetamise volituse (Schwemer, 2004).
1820ndatel tsentraliseeriti The Metropolitan Police. Sir Robert Peeli peetakse 1829.a tänapäevase politsei loojaks. The Metropolitan Police hõlmas tol perioodil u 20-miili raadiusega maa-ala Londonis. Modernse politsei alguseks peetaksegi Londoni Metropoli loomist 1829. aastal, mis võeti otseseks eeskujuks ka Ühendriikide politseisüsteemi arendamisel 1830el aastatel (Auten, 1985). Kuna politsei loomine oli selle loomishetkel avalikkusele tundlik küsimus, siis pöörati alguses suurt tähelepanu just politseiniku distsipliinile ja välimusele, vähem aga haridusele (McLaughlin, 2009).
Mis tingis n-ö kaasaegse politsei loomise? Võib väita, et põhjus peitus Suurbritannia tööstuse ja raudteede plahvatuslikus arengus. See tõi kaasa ulgutööliskonna tekke, kes koondusid elama väga kitsastesse oludesse. Samuti tõi tööstusrevolutsioon kaasa rohkem vaba aega, kui seda oli varasemalt. Näiteks kivisöe tootmine oli aastatel 1820-24 Suurbritannias üheksa korda suurem, kui Prantsusmaal, Belgias, Saksamaal ja Venemaal kokku. Aastatel 1855-59 kaks korda suurem, 1880-84 poolteist korda suurem. Toorpuuvilla toodeti 1850. Suurbritannias1,6 korda rohkem, kui Euroopas. Seatina toodang 1820.a sama, mis Euroopas, 1850- 2,5 korda suurem, 1880 ligi 2 korda suurem. Terasetoodang oli sama suur, kui Euroopas kokku. Suurbritannia elanikkond neljakordistus 130 aastaga (1750-1881). (Blacki, 2004)
Suurem osa elanikest elas veskite, vabrikute ja kaevanduste juures. Uute tehaste loomine tõi kaasa selle, et n-ö hulgutöölised koondusid linnadesse. Suurbritannias võeti 1834.a vastu vaesteseadus, millega seati sisse üldriiklik vaeste hoolekanne. Londonis loodi vaeste valitsuskomisjon töömajadesüsteemi kontrollimiseks ning haldusvõrk veevarustuse parandamiseks. Tööliste tihe asustus, kitsad tingimused ja vaba aeg tõid kaasa prostitutsiooni, haiguste ja kuritegevuse laine. 1835.a viidi Suurbritannias läbi munitsipaalvalitsuse reform, mis ühtlustas linnade valitsemist Inglismaal ja Walesis. Linnanõukogud võisid otsustada politsei, turgude ja tänavavalgustusega seotud küsimuste üle. 19. saj leiutised panid aluse siderevolutsioonile. 1831- Michael Farady - elektrimagnetiline induktsioon (teoreetiline võimalus elektri pidevaks genereerimiseks). Maxwell ja Kelvin- generaatorid. 1839- telegraaf (äri ja kommunikatsiooni arenemine, globaalsed turud, kiirus, impeeriumi haldamine ja kaitse planeerimine). Tekkisid uued kaubad, hiljem uued kaupade levitamise viisid (nt jaekaubandus), idee vabakaubandusest, välisinvesteeringud. (Blacki, 2004). Kõik see viis vajaduseni luua uusi koordinatsioonimehhanisme.
Virta (2000:58) väidab, et: „... Industrialiseerimise ja linnastumisega seoses tekkinud politseiorganisatsioon on üldise kontrolli subjekt, mis teenib universaalseid huvisid, kuid eelkõige ühiskonna nõrgemaid lülisid ... 19. sajandi alguses oli eesmärgiks ka tööliste moraali tõstmine. Politseid läks vaja nõrkade kaitsjana ..."
IDevice küsimuse ikoon 19. sajandi nn moraalne poliitika tähendas, et …
päevapoliitikat tohtis teha ainult kõrge moraaliga inimene
poliitika suretas majanduse välja
tähtsustas nt loomade julma kohtlemise ja alkoholismi vastaseid moraalikampaaniaid
Kaasaegse politsei loomise tingis
see, et politseijõududest minnakse massiliselt pensionile ja noored on modernsema mõtteviisiga
tööstusrevolutsiooniga kaasnes ulgutööliskonna teke, kes koondusid elama uuslinnadesse kitsastesse oludesse, mis tõi kaasa haiguste, prostitutsiooni ja kuritegevuse laine
inimestel tekkis rohkem vaba aega, kuna tööpäev oli lühem, kui varem ja tegevusetus soodustas õiguserikkumisi
iDevide ikoon Mida mõeldakse väites, et politseiriik eksisteeris varem, kui riik? Mis seisukohal te isiklikult selle väite suhtes olete? Miks?
iDevide ikoon Mis soodustas tänapäevase politsei tekkimist?
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1. korra pidamine tänavatel ja turgudel;
2. valvata, et valitsevat riigikorda miski ei ohustaks.
1754.aastaks loodi Viini politseikomissari ametikoht, mida võis lugeda esimeseks sammuks Austria ühtse riigipolitsei loomisel. Loodud sai see siiski alles 1786. aastal ja algselt hakkas see samuti täitma vaid poliitilise salapolitsei ülesandeid. Austria riigipolitsei esimesteks kohustusteks olid: välismaiste diplomaatide jälgimine, ametnike ja ohvitseride elu ja tegevuse kontrollimine. Samuti hakati värbama erinevate ühiskonnakihtide seast agente rahva meelsuse jälgimiseks (Kekkonen, 1929).
Virta (2000) sõnul tekkis 1790.a Inglismaal Marine Police- eraviisiliselt laevade lastimise valvamine Londoni sadamas. Preisi 1794.a politseil oli seaduslik staatus, mis oli riigi üldisest heaoluülesannetest eraldatud. 18. Sajandil võidutsenud paternalistlik „moraalne majandus" ehk seisukoht, mille kohaselt valitsus peaks sellepärast sekkuma, et ta teab inimestest endist paremini, mis on neile kasulik asendus 19. sajandil nn „moraalse poliitikaga". Moraalikampaaniad võitlesid orjuse, loomade julma kohtlemise ja alkoholismiga. See pani aluse vabatahtlike seltside ja ühingute tegevusele. 19. sajandil toimus ka ametikodanluse kihtide tõus ülemkihi funktsioonidesse. Üksikisikul rahateenimine ja amet, seltskondlikkus, maja kaunistamine, külastusetikett, söögirituaal- isikliku elu valdkonda. Aristokraatia püsis kõige kauem Inglismaal. Eliase (2007) sõnul 19. sajandi esimesi aastakümneid iseloomustab see, et Inglismaal leidsid aset Swingi mässud. Nende põhjuseks oli leivahinna kallinemine ja tööstustoodangu äkiline langus- mäss masinate vastu. Avalikkuse surve reformida parlamenti tugevnes.
Saksamaal alustati alates 19. sajandi keskpaigast politseiõiguse kodifitseerimisega, Lõuna-Saksamaa liidumaades tekkisid mahukad kuriteokoosseisude kataloogid, mis andsid politseile nii kuritegude jälitamise kui ka ennetamise volituse (Schwemer, 2004).
1820ndatel tsentraliseeriti The Metropolitan Police. Sir Robert Peeli peetakse 1829.a tänapäevase politsei loojaks. The Metropolitan Police hõlmas tol perioodil u 20-miili raadiusega maa-ala Londonis. Modernse politsei alguseks peetaksegi Londoni Metropoli loomist 1829. aastal, mis võeti otseseks eeskujuks ka Ühendriikide politseisüsteemi arendamisel 1830el aastatel (Auten, 1985). Kuna politsei loomine oli selle loomishetkel avalikkusele tundlik küsimus, siis pöörati alguses suurt tähelepanu just politseiniku distsipliinile ja välimusele, vähem aga haridusele (McLaughlin, 2009).
Mis tingis n-ö kaasaegse politsei loomise? Võib väita, et põhjus peitus Suurbritannia tööstuse ja raudteede plahvatuslikus arengus. See tõi kaasa ulgutööliskonna tekke, kes koondusid elama väga kitsastesse oludesse. Samuti tõi tööstusrevolutsioon kaasa rohkem vaba aega, kui seda oli varasemalt. Näiteks kivisöe tootmine oli aastatel 1820-24 Suurbritannias üheksa korda suurem, kui Prantsusmaal, Belgias, Saksamaal ja Venemaal kokku. Aastatel 1855-59 kaks korda suurem, 1880-84 poolteist korda suurem. Toorpuuvilla toodeti 1850. Suurbritannias1,6 korda rohkem, kui Euroopas. Seatina toodang 1820.a sama, mis Euroopas, 1850- 2,5 korda suurem, 1880 ligi 2 korda suurem. Terasetoodang oli sama suur, kui Euroopas kokku. Suurbritannia elanikkond neljakordistus 130 aastaga (1750-1881). (Blacki, 2004)
Suurem osa elanikest elas veskite, vabrikute ja kaevanduste juures. Uute tehaste loomine tõi kaasa selle, et n-ö hulgutöölised koondusid linnadesse. Suurbritannias võeti 1834.a vastu vaesteseadus, millega seati sisse üldriiklik vaeste hoolekanne. Londonis loodi vaeste valitsuskomisjon töömajadesüsteemi kontrollimiseks ning haldusvõrk veevarustuse parandamiseks. Tööliste tihe asustus, kitsad tingimused ja vaba aeg tõid kaasa prostitutsiooni, haiguste ja kuritegevuse laine. 1835.a viidi Suurbritannias läbi munitsipaalvalitsuse reform, mis ühtlustas linnade valitsemist Inglismaal ja Walesis. Linnanõukogud võisid otsustada politsei, turgude ja tänavavalgustusega seotud küsimuste üle. 19. saj leiutised panid aluse siderevolutsioonile. 1831- Michael Farady - elektrimagnetiline induktsioon (teoreetiline võimalus elektri pidevaks genereerimiseks). Maxwell ja Kelvin- generaatorid. 1839- telegraaf (äri ja kommunikatsiooni arenemine, globaalsed turud, kiirus, impeeriumi haldamine ja kaitse planeerimine). Tekkisid uued kaubad, hiljem uued kaupade levitamise viisid (nt jaekaubandus), idee vabakaubandusest, välisinvesteeringud. (Blacki, 2004). Kõik see viis vajaduseni luua uusi koordinatsioonimehhanisme.
Virta (2000:58) väidab, et: „... Industrialiseerimise ja linnastumisega seoses tekkinud politseiorganisatsioon on üldise kontrolli subjekt, mis teenib universaalseid huvisid, kuid eelkõige ühiskonna nõrgemaid lülisid ... 19. sajandi alguses oli eesmärgiks ka tööliste moraali tõstmine. Politseid läks vaja nõrkade kaitsjana ..."
IDevice küsimuse ikoon 19. sajandi nn moraalne poliitika tähendas, et …
päevapoliitikat tohtis teha ainult kõrge moraaliga inimene
poliitika suretas majanduse välja
tähtsustas nt loomade julma kohtlemise ja alkoholismi vastaseid moraalikampaaniaid
Kaasaegse politsei loomise tingis
see, et politseijõududest minnakse massiliselt pensionile ja noored on modernsema mõtteviisiga
tööstusrevolutsiooniga kaasnes ulgutööliskonna teke, kes koondusid elama uuslinnadesse kitsastesse oludesse, mis tõi kaasa haiguste, prostitutsiooni ja kuritegevuse laine
inimestel tekkis rohkem vaba aega, kuna tööpäev oli lühem, kui varem ja tegevusetus soodustas õiguserikkumisi
iDevide ikoon Mida mõeldakse väites, et politseiriik eksisteeris varem, kui riik? Mis seisukohal te isiklikult selle väite suhtes olete? Miks?
iDevide ikoon Mis soodustas tänapäevase politsei tekkimist?
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4 March 2018 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Ühiskonna arengu mõju turvalisus- ja korrakaitsepoliitika ning korrakaitsestrateegiate kujundamisele
Õpiobjekt on valminud e-kursuse "Kogukondliku korrakaitsetöö juhtimine" raames, mida on rahastatud projektist BeSt.
autorid:
Pille Vennikas Veiko Randlaine Joosep Kaasik Joosep Kaasik
Tehniliselt abistas Sisekaitseakadeemia haridustehnoloog Vaiko Mäe
õpiobjekti eesmärk: kursuse eduka läbimise järel oskab üliõpilane analüüsida ühiskonna arengu mõju korrakaitsestrateegiate kujunemisele ja kaasaegse multikultuurse kodanikuühiskonna turvalisus- ja korrakaitsepoliitika põhisuundi. Õpiobjekt ei soovi anda teemade ammendavat käsitlust, vaid pigem annab mõttesuundi ja teemasid aruteludeks. Õppija leiab siit küsimusi, mille üle mõelda ja soovitusi lisalugemiseks, kust täiendavaid teadmisi hankida.
Sihtrühm: sisejulgeoleku magistrandid, kes õpivad ainet Kogukondliku korrakaitsetöö juhtimine. Lisaks nendele sobib õpiobjekt teadmiste täiendamiseks sisekaitseakadeemia politsei- ja piirivalve- ning pääste- ja korrektsiooniala üliõpilastele.
Sissejuhatus
Ühiskonna arenguetapid ja avaliku halduse kujunemisprotsessid on korrakaitsestruktuuride arengut tugevalt mõjutanud. Õpiobjekti esimeses osas vaadeldakse politseihalduse kujunemist modernse riigikäsitluse tekkimise aspektist. Teises osas analüüsitakse, millised ühiskonna arenguprotsessid soodustasid kaasaegse politsei tekkimist ning miks tekkis vajadus kogukonnakeskse korrakaitsetöö järele.
Õpiobjekti kolmas osa keskendub multikultuurse ühiskonna eripäradest tulenevatele probleemidele ja väljakutsetele. Põgusalt analüüsitakse Eesti turvalisuspoliitikaga seonduvaid strateegiaid, Suurbritannia ja Soome julgeolekustrateegiaid, uuema aja multikultuurse ühiskonna käsitlusi ja probleeme ning korrakaitsetöö aspekte nendega toime tulemisel.
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Õpiobjekt on valminud e-kursuse "Kogukondliku korrakaitsetöö juhtimine" raames, mida on rahastatud projektist BeSt.
autorid:
Pille Vennikas Veiko Randlaine Joosep Kaasik Joosep Kaasik
Tehniliselt abistas Sisekaitseakadeemia haridustehnoloog Vaiko Mäe
õpiobjekti eesmärk: kursuse eduka läbimise järel oskab üliõpilane analüüsida ühiskonna arengu mõju korrakaitsestrateegiate kujunemisele ja kaasaegse multikultuurse kodanikuühiskonna turvalisus- ja korrakaitsepoliitika põhisuundi. Õpiobjekt ei soovi anda teemade ammendavat käsitlust, vaid pigem annab mõttesuundi ja teemasid aruteludeks. Õppija leiab siit küsimusi, mille üle mõelda ja soovitusi lisalugemiseks, kust täiendavaid teadmisi hankida.
Sihtrühm: sisejulgeoleku magistrandid, kes õpivad ainet Kogukondliku korrakaitsetöö juhtimine. Lisaks nendele sobib õpiobjekt teadmiste täiendamiseks sisekaitseakadeemia politsei- ja piirivalve- ning pääste- ja korrektsiooniala üliõpilastele.
Sissejuhatus
Ühiskonna arenguetapid ja avaliku halduse kujunemisprotsessid on korrakaitsestruktuuride arengut tugevalt mõjutanud. Õpiobjekti esimeses osas vaadeldakse politseihalduse kujunemist modernse riigikäsitluse tekkimise aspektist. Teises osas analüüsitakse, millised ühiskonna arenguprotsessid soodustasid kaasaegse politsei tekkimist ning miks tekkis vajadus kogukonnakeskse korrakaitsetöö järele.
Õpiobjekti kolmas osa keskendub multikultuurse ühiskonna eripäradest tulenevatele probleemidele ja väljakutsetele. Põgusalt analüüsitakse Eesti turvalisuspoliitikaga seonduvaid strateegiaid, Suurbritannia ja Soome julgeolekustrateegiaid, uuema aja multikultuurse ühiskonna käsitlusi ja probleeme ning korrakaitsetöö aspekte nendega toime tulemisel.
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4 March 2018 01:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui juba asjaks läks, siis midagi Väga asjalikku, koos alllikidega kommentaaris:
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"Rahu, õiguse ja n-ö hea korra säilitamine on inimesi huvitanud iidsetest aegadest saadik. Sõna „politsei" pärineb algupäraselt kreekakeelsest sõnast politeia, mis tähendab sisuliselt linna- või riigi (polis) valitsemist. Oluline on siinkohal märkida, et Vana-Kreeka polis ei ole institutsionaalselt sama, mis moderne riik (alates hiliskeskajast). 16.-17. sajandi Saksamaal tähistas sõna polizei tegevust, millega valitseja hoidis ja viis ellu üldist eluolu ja head korda. Näiteks Karl V palus 1521.a seisustel mõelda, kuidas säilitada rahu, õigus ja "hea kord" ehk võim. Mõiste „hea kord" tähendus ja tegevused, mida selle saavutamiseks oli tarvis teha, olid siinjuures valitseja enda defineerida. Algselt siis kattis politseiline tegevus kõiki eluvaldkondi söömisest jahipidamiseni ja perekonnaelust hariduse ning religioossete toiminguteni. Lähtuti arusaamast, et õigus defineerida eesmärk - hea kord - annab valitsejale ka õiguse valida vahendid selle saavutamiseks (Pieroth, Shlink, Kniesel. Polizei- und Ordnungsrecht. München 2002, äärne 2jj; K. Jaanimägi 2004)."
"Edaspidi politsei tegevusvaldkonda ahendati, heaolu ja sund lahutati. Valitsemine lakkas olemast politsei laiemas tähenduses. 18.saj lõpus Prantsusmaal oli politsei karistava ja repressiivse organina, lisaks sellele olid tal mõningad heaolu tagavad ülesanded (Virta 2000). Õiguslikus plaanis hõlmas sisuliselt kuni veel 19. sajandi keskpaigani politseiõiguse mõiste Euroopa riikides peaaegu kogu riigihaldust (Schwemer, 2004). Selline riigi valitsemine, kus küll ideaalis tuli tagada valitsejal riigi ja selle alamate hea käekäik - või nagu Thomas Aquino (1225-1274) oma kommentaarides Aristotelese Poliitikale märkis: „et kohtunik või magistraat vastutab üldise hüve eest, milleks on õiglus" ning peab seega tegutsema viisil, mis toob esile selle hea külje kogukonna kui terviku status'e vaatepunktist (Quentin Skinneri, „Riik" lk 190) - tugines siiski valdavalt valitseja autoriteedile ja meelevallale. Kuna algses tähenduses oli politsei kõik see, mida valitseja pidas alluvate eduks ja õnneks vajalikuks, kasutades siin vajadusel sundi - sealjuures kohtuasjadest erinevalt ei olnud politseiasjades võimalik kohtu poole pöörduda (Sinisalo, 1972) - siis võime sõna algses tähenduses rääkida politseiriigist."
Avalik haldus (publik administration, öffentliche Verwaltung) kujunes koos klassikalise absolutismi ja riigi haldusstruktuuride, sh iseseisva ametkonna tekkimisega 17. ja 18.sajndil. Avalikust haldusest kui riigiteaduse algusest (Staatswissenschaften) saame kontinentaal Euroopa traditsioonis rääkida samuti alates 17-18 sajandist, s.o Saksa riikides koos Kameralismi (Kameralwissenschaften) tekkimisega.
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Norbert Elias (2007) märgib, et üha rohkem inimesi sõltus kuningast. 16. saj kujunes Prantsusmaal jm absolutism- feodaalisanda võim konkurentide ja maa üle. Rahaga reguleeritav (maksude kogumise monopol) st et maa omamise ja jagamise asemel maa maksude kogumine ja määramise monopol (raha ja rahapensione jagav). Monarh ei maksnud õukonna- ja haldusteenistuse eest- ameteid ei päritud, vaid ta määras need eluks ajaks.
Thomas Hobbes (1588-1679), kes oli üks peamisi absolutismi teoreetikuid ja ühiskondliku lepingu teooriakontseptsiooni loojaid (vt tuntumaid teoseid „Leviathan" 1651, kus ta esitab oma teooria riigi vajalikusest), oli esimene, kes andis oma avalduses terminile riik suurema sotsiaalse tähenduse märkimaks sellega kõrgemat autoriteeti kodanikuvalitsemise (civil government) küsimustes. Hobbes'i avaldust võib vaadelda, kui tähist, mis märgib ühe selgepiirilise faasi, kus avaliku võimu käsitlus tugines vaid isikulisemates ja karismaatilisemates terminites, lõppu ja teise tuttavama ja mitte enam lihtsalt valitseja autoriteedile põhineva faasi algust. (Lipping, 2002 koostatud ja toimetatud „Kaasaegne poliitiline filosoofia valik esseesid"- Quentin Skinneri, „Riik"). T. Hobbesi ühiskondliku lepingu teooria väitis, et riiki on vaja selleks, et loomult egoistlik inimene vajab ülemat jõudu, mis hoiaks ära "kõikide sõja kõikide vastu". Seega peab inimene osa õigusi ära loovutama- n.ö ühiskondliku lepingu teooria. Peab olema ainuvalitseja ehk suverään- absolutismi legitiimsus (rahvas ise annab võimu). Riik kui inimeste endi moodustatud "jumal".
T.Hobbes koos John Locke'ga (1632-1704) olid oma aja olulisemaid filosoofe, nende kahe ideed eelnesid kaasaegsete demokraatlike ühiskondade väljakujunemisele ja sellistele märgilistele poliitilistele filosoofiatele nagu seda on kanti filosoofia, utilitarism, liberalism ja sotsialism.
Keskajal kujunes riik maksu- ja füüsilise jõu monopolina, aadelkond asus kõrgemale kodanlusest, rüütlitest said õukondlased. Lõhe suurema agraarsektori ja väiksema ja rikkama linlik-kodanliku sektori vahel oli suurem, kui 19. saj Mõlemas sektoris oli nii alamkiht (vaesed talupojad ja sellid-töölised), alamkeskkiht (väikekeskkiht ja alama astme ametnikud), kõrgem keskkiht (jõukad kaupmehed ja kõrgemad linnaametnikud, kohtu- ja haldusametnikkond, jõukas maa- ja provintsiaadel), tipud (kõrge õukond linnas ja õukonna aadel maal). Kuningas hoidis pinged tasakaalus, keerukad olid liidud vaimulikkonnaga. Kuningas varustas finantsmonopolist aadlike tippkihti. Kodanlased nõudsid vastukaaluks privileegide (aadlite maksuvabastus ja õukonnaametite) kaotamist. Tsiviliseerimisprotsessis puudus ratsionaalsus, käivitus pimesi, üksikisik sõltus järjest rohkem teistest, rangemalt järjestatud toimingute võrgustik. Feodaliseerumise mehhanismidest kujunesid püsikindlamad keskorganid. Kujunes jõumonopol, kus vägivallategusid toime ei pandud. Funktsioonide jaotus, pikemad üksikisikuid siduvad tegevusahelad (üksikisik kaitstud äkkrünnaku, füüsilise vägivalla vastu). Rahalised ja kaubanduslikud põimumised tekitasid vajaduse inimestel suurtel aladel oma tegevust kooskõlastada, konkurentsi surve. N-ö konveier- lõbu asemel unelmad, raamatud ja pildid. 17-18. saj. linnade suhted linnadega, õukondade suhted õukondadega, kloostrite suhted kloostritega olid tihedamad, kui ühe ja sama paikkonna kindluste ja linnadevahelised kontaktid, kaubavahetus ja vastastikune sõltuvus oli väike. Funktsionaalne sõltuvus kasvas, elustandard paranes- konkurents, funktsioonijaotus, funktsionaalne sõltuvus suurenes. Vabrikud tekitasid uusi vabrikuid, kuna töölised ja ettevõtjad on vastastikuses sõltuvuses. Aadlid õukonnas- prestiiživajadus (kuulumine ülemkihti) ja ka majanduslikud võimalused. Kuningas- aadelkonna eksistentsist sõltuv (tasakaalu hoidmine kodanlusega). (Elias, 2007).
Politsei uurimise aspektist on oluline märkida, et policing - uurimise puhul on politseimõiste laiem kui inglisekeelne police: politsei ülesanded ja tegevused on osa laiemast ühiskondlikust protsessist (policing)
Policing - uurimise lähenemisviisiks on politseikroonikate, -statistikate, meetodianalüüside ja -seletuste sageli abstraktseks ja eraldatuks jääva pildi laiendamine, uurimus pannakse paika ajalooliselt (areng, genealoogia), füüsiliselt (suurlinnad, naabruskonnad) ning eelkõige ühiskondlikult (suhtes muude institutsioonidega, laiemalt heaolu ja avalike teenuste mudelitega, haldus ja professionaalsete huvidega jne). (Cohen, 1985)
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/politsei_mistestik_ajaloolises_vtmes.html
"Rahu, õiguse ja n-ö hea korra säilitamine on inimesi huvitanud iidsetest aegadest saadik. Sõna „politsei" pärineb algupäraselt kreekakeelsest sõnast politeia, mis tähendab sisuliselt linna- või riigi (polis) valitsemist. Oluline on siinkohal märkida, et Vana-Kreeka polis ei ole institutsionaalselt sama, mis moderne riik (alates hiliskeskajast). 16.-17. sajandi Saksamaal tähistas sõna polizei tegevust, millega valitseja hoidis ja viis ellu üldist eluolu ja head korda. Näiteks Karl V palus 1521.a seisustel mõelda, kuidas säilitada rahu, õigus ja "hea kord" ehk võim. Mõiste „hea kord" tähendus ja tegevused, mida selle saavutamiseks oli tarvis teha, olid siinjuures valitseja enda defineerida. Algselt siis kattis politseiline tegevus kõiki eluvaldkondi söömisest jahipidamiseni ja perekonnaelust hariduse ning religioossete toiminguteni. Lähtuti arusaamast, et õigus defineerida eesmärk - hea kord - annab valitsejale ka õiguse valida vahendid selle saavutamiseks (Pieroth, Shlink, Kniesel. Polizei- und Ordnungsrecht. München 2002, äärne 2jj; K. Jaanimägi 2004)."
"Edaspidi politsei tegevusvaldkonda ahendati, heaolu ja sund lahutati. Valitsemine lakkas olemast politsei laiemas tähenduses. 18.saj lõpus Prantsusmaal oli politsei karistava ja repressiivse organina, lisaks sellele olid tal mõningad heaolu tagavad ülesanded (Virta 2000). Õiguslikus plaanis hõlmas sisuliselt kuni veel 19. sajandi keskpaigani politseiõiguse mõiste Euroopa riikides peaaegu kogu riigihaldust (Schwemer, 2004). Selline riigi valitsemine, kus küll ideaalis tuli tagada valitsejal riigi ja selle alamate hea käekäik - või nagu Thomas Aquino (1225-1274) oma kommentaarides Aristotelese Poliitikale märkis: „et kohtunik või magistraat vastutab üldise hüve eest, milleks on õiglus" ning peab seega tegutsema viisil, mis toob esile selle hea külje kogukonna kui terviku status'e vaatepunktist (Quentin Skinneri, „Riik" lk 190) - tugines siiski valdavalt valitseja autoriteedile ja meelevallale. Kuna algses tähenduses oli politsei kõik see, mida valitseja pidas alluvate eduks ja õnneks vajalikuks, kasutades siin vajadusel sundi - sealjuures kohtuasjadest erinevalt ei olnud politseiasjades võimalik kohtu poole pöörduda (Sinisalo, 1972) - siis võime sõna algses tähenduses rääkida politseiriigist."
Avalik haldus (publik administration, öffentliche Verwaltung) kujunes koos klassikalise absolutismi ja riigi haldusstruktuuride, sh iseseisva ametkonna tekkimisega 17. ja 18.sajndil. Avalikust haldusest kui riigiteaduse algusest (Staatswissenschaften) saame kontinentaal Euroopa traditsioonis rääkida samuti alates 17-18 sajandist, s.o Saksa riikides koos Kameralismi (Kameralwissenschaften) tekkimisega.
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Norbert Elias (2007) märgib, et üha rohkem inimesi sõltus kuningast. 16. saj kujunes Prantsusmaal jm absolutism- feodaalisanda võim konkurentide ja maa üle. Rahaga reguleeritav (maksude kogumise monopol) st et maa omamise ja jagamise asemel maa maksude kogumine ja määramise monopol (raha ja rahapensione jagav). Monarh ei maksnud õukonna- ja haldusteenistuse eest- ameteid ei päritud, vaid ta määras need eluks ajaks.
Thomas Hobbes (1588-1679), kes oli üks peamisi absolutismi teoreetikuid ja ühiskondliku lepingu teooriakontseptsiooni loojaid (vt tuntumaid teoseid „Leviathan" 1651, kus ta esitab oma teooria riigi vajalikusest), oli esimene, kes andis oma avalduses terminile riik suurema sotsiaalse tähenduse märkimaks sellega kõrgemat autoriteeti kodanikuvalitsemise (civil government) küsimustes. Hobbes'i avaldust võib vaadelda, kui tähist, mis märgib ühe selgepiirilise faasi, kus avaliku võimu käsitlus tugines vaid isikulisemates ja karismaatilisemates terminites, lõppu ja teise tuttavama ja mitte enam lihtsalt valitseja autoriteedile põhineva faasi algust. (Lipping, 2002 koostatud ja toimetatud „Kaasaegne poliitiline filosoofia valik esseesid"- Quentin Skinneri, „Riik"). T. Hobbesi ühiskondliku lepingu teooria väitis, et riiki on vaja selleks, et loomult egoistlik inimene vajab ülemat jõudu, mis hoiaks ära "kõikide sõja kõikide vastu". Seega peab inimene osa õigusi ära loovutama- n.ö ühiskondliku lepingu teooria. Peab olema ainuvalitseja ehk suverään- absolutismi legitiimsus (rahvas ise annab võimu). Riik kui inimeste endi moodustatud "jumal".
T.Hobbes koos John Locke'ga (1632-1704) olid oma aja olulisemaid filosoofe, nende kahe ideed eelnesid kaasaegsete demokraatlike ühiskondade väljakujunemisele ja sellistele märgilistele poliitilistele filosoofiatele nagu seda on kanti filosoofia, utilitarism, liberalism ja sotsialism.
Keskajal kujunes riik maksu- ja füüsilise jõu monopolina, aadelkond asus kõrgemale kodanlusest, rüütlitest said õukondlased. Lõhe suurema agraarsektori ja väiksema ja rikkama linlik-kodanliku sektori vahel oli suurem, kui 19. saj Mõlemas sektoris oli nii alamkiht (vaesed talupojad ja sellid-töölised), alamkeskkiht (väikekeskkiht ja alama astme ametnikud), kõrgem keskkiht (jõukad kaupmehed ja kõrgemad linnaametnikud, kohtu- ja haldusametnikkond, jõukas maa- ja provintsiaadel), tipud (kõrge õukond linnas ja õukonna aadel maal). Kuningas hoidis pinged tasakaalus, keerukad olid liidud vaimulikkonnaga. Kuningas varustas finantsmonopolist aadlike tippkihti. Kodanlased nõudsid vastukaaluks privileegide (aadlite maksuvabastus ja õukonnaametite) kaotamist. Tsiviliseerimisprotsessis puudus ratsionaalsus, käivitus pimesi, üksikisik sõltus järjest rohkem teistest, rangemalt järjestatud toimingute võrgustik. Feodaliseerumise mehhanismidest kujunesid püsikindlamad keskorganid. Kujunes jõumonopol, kus vägivallategusid toime ei pandud. Funktsioonide jaotus, pikemad üksikisikuid siduvad tegevusahelad (üksikisik kaitstud äkkrünnaku, füüsilise vägivalla vastu). Rahalised ja kaubanduslikud põimumised tekitasid vajaduse inimestel suurtel aladel oma tegevust kooskõlastada, konkurentsi surve. N-ö konveier- lõbu asemel unelmad, raamatud ja pildid. 17-18. saj. linnade suhted linnadega, õukondade suhted õukondadega, kloostrite suhted kloostritega olid tihedamad, kui ühe ja sama paikkonna kindluste ja linnadevahelised kontaktid, kaubavahetus ja vastastikune sõltuvus oli väike. Funktsionaalne sõltuvus kasvas, elustandard paranes- konkurents, funktsioonijaotus, funktsionaalne sõltuvus suurenes. Vabrikud tekitasid uusi vabrikuid, kuna töölised ja ettevõtjad on vastastikuses sõltuvuses. Aadlid õukonnas- prestiiživajadus (kuulumine ülemkihti) ja ka majanduslikud võimalused. Kuningas- aadelkonna eksistentsist sõltuv (tasakaalu hoidmine kodanlusega). (Elias, 2007).
Politsei uurimise aspektist on oluline märkida, et policing - uurimise puhul on politseimõiste laiem kui inglisekeelne police: politsei ülesanded ja tegevused on osa laiemast ühiskondlikust protsessist (policing)
Policing - uurimise lähenemisviisiks on politseikroonikate, -statistikate, meetodianalüüside ja -seletuste sageli abstraktseks ja eraldatuks jääva pildi laiendamine, uurimus pannakse paika ajalooliselt (areng, genealoogia), füüsiliselt (suurlinnad, naabruskonnad) ning eelkõige ühiskondlikult (suhtes muude institutsioonidega, laiemalt heaolu ja avalike teenuste mudelitega, haldus ja professionaalsete huvidega jne). (Cohen, 1985)
http://stud.sisekaitse.ee/politsei/KorrakaitseStrateegiad/politsei_mistestik_ajaloolises_vtmes.html
4 March 2018 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muuseas kaudselt asjakohane:
"On oluline, et tööandja, kes kutsub töölisi teistest riikidest, paneks tähele, et see protseduur ei piirne ainult inimese kohalesaabumisega välisriigist, vaid et see töötamine tuleb registreerida ka politseis," rääkis Lõuna prefektuuri piirivalvebüroo inspektor Elen Hansen.
"See on tööandja enda huvides, sest sageli ei ole tööandja selle inimesega varem kokku puutunud ja ta tegelikult ei tea, mis inimesega on tegu," selgitas Hansen intervjuus KUKU raadiole. Tema sõnul uurib politsei seda inimest ja uurib ka tööandjat, kui ta taotluse saab. "Mõnikord on välja tulnud, et see inimene ei ole soovitud isik Eestis ega ka Euroopa Liidus. Sellisel moel me tagame nii tööandja kui ka kogukonna julgeoleku," lisas ta.
Hanseni sõnul eksitakse kõige sagedamini selles, et tööandjad unustavad võõrtööliste töötamise politseis registreerida. Töölised ise sageli ei vaata, kui kaua nad tohivad Eestis viibida. Nende Eestis viibimine on piiratud kas viisa või viisavaba perioodiga ja see oleneb tööst, milleks nad on siia kutsutud.
"Hooajatööd, nagu maasikakorjamine on, ja igasugust põllutööd on lubatud teha 270 päeva aastas. Viisad on sageli 90 päeva pikad. Siit tuleb see vahe, et inimesed ei tea, et nad peaksid tulema viisat pikendama enne kui nende tööperiood on lõppenud," selgitas ta. Hanseni sõnul on politsei juures töötamise registreerimata jätmise eest trahvi maksimumsumma 3200 eurot. Seda pole tema sõnul veel rakendatud, sest rikkumised ei ole väga suured olnud.
Elen Hansen rääkis, et probleeme on olnud ka ehitajatega. "Sagedasem põhjendus on olnud see, et tööandjad sageli suures töötegemise hoos kas siis unustavad või ei pea tähtsaks, et oma tööliste töötamine tuleb registreerida. Seda juhtub kahjuks tihti," selgitas ta.
Politsei määras neljale Jõgevamaal töötavale Ukraina kodanikule rahatrahvi, sest nende lühiajaline töötamine Eestis ei olnud nõuetekohaselt vormistatud. Lõuna prefektuuri piirivalvebüroo inspektor Elen Hansen kinnitas, et seekord saadi rikkujad kätte rutiinse kontrolli käigus maasikapõllult.
"Käisime Torma vallas kontrollimas, kuidas sujub maasikakorjajate töö. Tööandja oli registreerinud kümnete töötajate töötamise ja mõtlesime, et läheme kontrollime," ütles ta. Elen Hanseni sõnul on inspektorite ülesanne regulaarselt kontrollida neid töötamisi, mis teada on. "Politsei- ja Piirivalveameti ülesandeks on tagada Eesti elanikkonna turvalisus ja teatud julgeolekuohtu kätkeb võõrtööliste Eestisse kutsumine ju küll," selgitas ta.
http://www.pealinn.ee/tagid/koik/elen-hansen-voortoolised-tuleb-politseis-registreerida-n197936
"On oluline, et tööandja, kes kutsub töölisi teistest riikidest, paneks tähele, et see protseduur ei piirne ainult inimese kohalesaabumisega välisriigist, vaid et see töötamine tuleb registreerida ka politseis," rääkis Lõuna prefektuuri piirivalvebüroo inspektor Elen Hansen.
"See on tööandja enda huvides, sest sageli ei ole tööandja selle inimesega varem kokku puutunud ja ta tegelikult ei tea, mis inimesega on tegu," selgitas Hansen intervjuus KUKU raadiole. Tema sõnul uurib politsei seda inimest ja uurib ka tööandjat, kui ta taotluse saab. "Mõnikord on välja tulnud, et see inimene ei ole soovitud isik Eestis ega ka Euroopa Liidus. Sellisel moel me tagame nii tööandja kui ka kogukonna julgeoleku," lisas ta.
Hanseni sõnul eksitakse kõige sagedamini selles, et tööandjad unustavad võõrtööliste töötamise politseis registreerida. Töölised ise sageli ei vaata, kui kaua nad tohivad Eestis viibida. Nende Eestis viibimine on piiratud kas viisa või viisavaba perioodiga ja see oleneb tööst, milleks nad on siia kutsutud.
"Hooajatööd, nagu maasikakorjamine on, ja igasugust põllutööd on lubatud teha 270 päeva aastas. Viisad on sageli 90 päeva pikad. Siit tuleb see vahe, et inimesed ei tea, et nad peaksid tulema viisat pikendama enne kui nende tööperiood on lõppenud," selgitas ta. Hanseni sõnul on politsei juures töötamise registreerimata jätmise eest trahvi maksimumsumma 3200 eurot. Seda pole tema sõnul veel rakendatud, sest rikkumised ei ole väga suured olnud.
Elen Hansen rääkis, et probleeme on olnud ka ehitajatega. "Sagedasem põhjendus on olnud see, et tööandjad sageli suures töötegemise hoos kas siis unustavad või ei pea tähtsaks, et oma tööliste töötamine tuleb registreerida. Seda juhtub kahjuks tihti," selgitas ta.
Politsei määras neljale Jõgevamaal töötavale Ukraina kodanikule rahatrahvi, sest nende lühiajaline töötamine Eestis ei olnud nõuetekohaselt vormistatud. Lõuna prefektuuri piirivalvebüroo inspektor Elen Hansen kinnitas, et seekord saadi rikkujad kätte rutiinse kontrolli käigus maasikapõllult.
"Käisime Torma vallas kontrollimas, kuidas sujub maasikakorjajate töö. Tööandja oli registreerinud kümnete töötajate töötamise ja mõtlesime, et läheme kontrollime," ütles ta. Elen Hanseni sõnul on inspektorite ülesanne regulaarselt kontrollida neid töötamisi, mis teada on. "Politsei- ja Piirivalveameti ülesandeks on tagada Eesti elanikkonna turvalisus ja teatud julgeolekuohtu kätkeb võõrtööliste Eestisse kutsumine ju küll," selgitas ta.
http://www.pealinn.ee/tagid/koik/elen-hansen-voortoolised-tuleb-politseis-registreerida-n197936
http://www.pealinn.ee/tagid/koik/elen-hansen-voortoolised-tuleb-politseis-registreerida-n197936
4 March 2018 01:34
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's post.
Just can not see the benefit of these heels, why anyone who want's to be respected (or looked good) would ever wear them
4 March 2018 00:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nagu sellised laused sellest sarjast kus naine ütles, et tahab sigareti omale (ropemini) tagumikku pista ...
Nu mida asja
Nu mida asja
4 March 2018 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja samal ajal muidugi selline ulme maailm, kus mingi K12
pealt, algul peaaegu süütu sari tundub olema, kus aga mida rohkem vaatad, seda magedamaks läheb, ropendamised pidevad naisest kes ennast odavalt paljaks tirivadja ja pudeleid puruks peksavad, akoholiga ennast üle kallavad ja ... nu jah..
Ja enamus promob veel seda totrat raseerituse asja ka, poel veel ühtegi korraliku tutti ega põõsast näinud, täiesti arusaamatu kultuur...
...kui tava kanalisse selline asi panna, siis kas tõesti ühtegi pole, kus nad sinna sisse midagi tarka ja sügavat, huvitavat punuda poel mõsitnud... siis saaks tissivahtjad haritud ni mõneski rohkem,
samas mine tea, vb see kaader kes vaatab, õpib ka sellest, et nagu kohe ei pea asja ajama hakkama, vaid saab niisama ka tisse vaadata, kes teab, mis moodi see Looming siin seda haridust igasuguste osas ajab..
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(alasti)"Tüdrukud täristavad relvi, tegelevad langevarjusurfiga, lendavad vanade lennukitega ning sõidavad lumelauaga"
https://www.kava.ee/saade/309968605
"õpetame, kuidas oma voodikaaslast kinni siduda. Käime peolahes, kus saab päev otsa alkoholi nautida ja naisi võtta - või vastupidi. Seejärel aga mängime alasti rannavollet."
https://www.kava.ee/saade/309968606
// põhi teema on naistel sääl "lets get some fking drinks.."
senikaua kui selline sast ekraanilttuleb.. nu anna olla.. milleks..
mis poliitikast siin rääkida saame
pealt, algul peaaegu süütu sari tundub olema, kus aga mida rohkem vaatad, seda magedamaks läheb, ropendamised pidevad naisest kes ennast odavalt paljaks tirivadja ja pudeleid puruks peksavad, akoholiga ennast üle kallavad ja ... nu jah..
Ja enamus promob veel seda totrat raseerituse asja ka, poel veel ühtegi korraliku tutti ega põõsast näinud, täiesti arusaamatu kultuur...
...kui tava kanalisse selline asi panna, siis kas tõesti ühtegi pole, kus nad sinna sisse midagi tarka ja sügavat, huvitavat punuda poel mõsitnud... siis saaks tissivahtjad haritud ni mõneski rohkem,
samas mine tea, vb see kaader kes vaatab, õpib ka sellest, et nagu kohe ei pea asja ajama hakkama, vaid saab niisama ka tisse vaadata, kes teab, mis moodi see Looming siin seda haridust igasuguste osas ajab..
...
(alasti)"Tüdrukud täristavad relvi, tegelevad langevarjusurfiga, lendavad vanade lennukitega ning sõidavad lumelauaga"
https://www.kava.ee/saade/309968605
"õpetame, kuidas oma voodikaaslast kinni siduda. Käime peolahes, kus saab päev otsa alkoholi nautida ja naisi võtta - või vastupidi. Seejärel aga mängime alasti rannavollet."
https://www.kava.ee/saade/309968606
// põhi teema on naistel sääl "lets get some fking drinks.."
senikaua kui selline sast ekraanilttuleb.. nu anna olla.. milleks..
mis poliitikast siin rääkida saame
https://www.kava.ee/saade/309968605
4 March 2018 00:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Samas ka teisi valitsuse plaane Hiinast (ainult ühest kohast leidsin selle uuringu,link lõpus) :
Alcohol and the Sustainable Development Goals.
Chinese drinkers consume more alcohol than the Brits and Australians, says study
"“A first step forward would be to establish a public health-oriented commission or agency charged specifically with developing controls over the alcohol market and a strategy for reducing levels of alcohol consumption and problems, drawing on the strategies agreed on in the WHO Global Strategy for Reducing Harmful Use of Alcohol,”"
Writing in The Lancet medical journal, researchers note that social and health issues related to dramatic increase in alcohol consumption have been largely neglected by the Chinese government
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// Korra Veel:
Chinese drinkers consume about three standard drinks on average a day – more than the Brits, Americans, Germans or Australians, recent statistics show.
// Kommunismi veelgi sügavamad jäljed... mis loodud sümbioosis demokraatia vabadusega on üks sügav mülgas ja võrk millest raske ühskoda väljasikuama ennast panna...
Artiklist:
Writing in the April issue of The Lancet Global Health, the researchers say the social and health issues related to alcohol use and misuse, such as liver and cardiovascular diseases, mental disorders, cancers, violence, and transport and unintentional injuries, have been largely neglected by the Chinese government.
Led by Jiang Heng, from the Centre for Alcohol Policy Research at Turning Point Alcohol and Drug Centre in Melbourne, the authors cite statistics from the World Health Organisation’s Global Status Report on Alcohol and Health 2014. While more than half of the Chinese population aged 15 years and older are teetotal – 42 per cent of men and 71 per cent of women in 2010 – those who do drink averaged 15.1 litres of pure alcohol in 2010.
Overall, per capita alcohol consumption in the mainland has seen a striking increase from 2.5 litres in 1978 to 6.7 litres in 2010 (if you include the entire population, both abstainers and drinkers).
“A first step forward would be to establish a public health-oriented commission or agency charged specifically with developing controls over the alcohol market and a strategy for reducing levels of alcohol consumption and problems, drawing on the strategies agreed on in the WHO Global Strategy for Reducing Harmful Use of Alcohol,” writes Jiang, whose co-authors are Turning Point colleague Robin Room and Hao Wei, a psychiatry professor at Central South University in Changsha, Hunan province.
Uuring:
Furthermore, there is almost no alcohol control policy in China, unlike in other countries.7 The government now urgently needs to establish a public health-oriented commission or agency charged specifically with developing controls over the alcohol market and implementing a strategy to reduce levels of alcohol consumption and associated problems in China. Along with more attention to public health policy on reducing alcohol-associated social and health problems, the policy space for reducing harmful use of alcohol needs to be protected from threats posed by new trade and investment agreements.
We declare no competing interests.
http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/health/article/1742243/changes-chinas-alcohol-use-policies-urgently-needed-researchers-say
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(16)31673-7/fulltext?rss%3Dyes
Alcohol and the Sustainable Development Goals.
Chinese drinkers consume more alcohol than the Brits and Australians, says study
"“A first step forward would be to establish a public health-oriented commission or agency charged specifically with developing controls over the alcohol market and a strategy for reducing levels of alcohol consumption and problems, drawing on the strategies agreed on in the WHO Global Strategy for Reducing Harmful Use of Alcohol,”"
Writing in The Lancet medical journal, researchers note that social and health issues related to dramatic increase in alcohol consumption have been largely neglected by the Chinese government
--
// Korra Veel:
Chinese drinkers consume about three standard drinks on average a day – more than the Brits, Americans, Germans or Australians, recent statistics show.
// Kommunismi veelgi sügavamad jäljed... mis loodud sümbioosis demokraatia vabadusega on üks sügav mülgas ja võrk millest raske ühskoda väljasikuama ennast panna...
Artiklist:
Writing in the April issue of The Lancet Global Health, the researchers say the social and health issues related to alcohol use and misuse, such as liver and cardiovascular diseases, mental disorders, cancers, violence, and transport and unintentional injuries, have been largely neglected by the Chinese government.
Led by Jiang Heng, from the Centre for Alcohol Policy Research at Turning Point Alcohol and Drug Centre in Melbourne, the authors cite statistics from the World Health Organisation’s Global Status Report on Alcohol and Health 2014. While more than half of the Chinese population aged 15 years and older are teetotal – 42 per cent of men and 71 per cent of women in 2010 – those who do drink averaged 15.1 litres of pure alcohol in 2010.
Overall, per capita alcohol consumption in the mainland has seen a striking increase from 2.5 litres in 1978 to 6.7 litres in 2010 (if you include the entire population, both abstainers and drinkers).
“A first step forward would be to establish a public health-oriented commission or agency charged specifically with developing controls over the alcohol market and a strategy for reducing levels of alcohol consumption and problems, drawing on the strategies agreed on in the WHO Global Strategy for Reducing Harmful Use of Alcohol,” writes Jiang, whose co-authors are Turning Point colleague Robin Room and Hao Wei, a psychiatry professor at Central South University in Changsha, Hunan province.
Uuring:
Furthermore, there is almost no alcohol control policy in China, unlike in other countries.7 The government now urgently needs to establish a public health-oriented commission or agency charged specifically with developing controls over the alcohol market and implementing a strategy to reduce levels of alcohol consumption and associated problems in China. Along with more attention to public health policy on reducing alcohol-associated social and health problems, the policy space for reducing harmful use of alcohol needs to be protected from threats posed by new trade and investment agreements.
We declare no competing interests.
http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/health/article/1742243/changes-chinas-alcohol-use-policies-urgently-needed-researchers-say
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(16)31673-7/fulltext?rss%3Dyes
http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/health/article/1742243/changes-chinas-alcohol-use-policies-urgently-needed-researchers-say
3 March 2018 23:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ameerika dimensiooni uuringud::
The Way Americans Drink Alcohol Is Changing And Experts Are Worried
High-risk drinking is becoming a bigger problem.
Research published in the journal JAMA Psychiatry published earlier this month examined and compared two large studies where American adults self-reported their drinking behaviors. One study, conducted from 2001 to 2002, contained more than 40,000 survey responses while the second study of more than 35,000 responses, was conducted from 2012 to 2013.
Overall, Americans who reported they drank at least once in a year-long period increased by 11 percent. High-risk drinking, meaning drinking four or more beverages per day at least once a week for women and five or more for men, increased by 30 percent. Alcohol use disorders, which is where individuals’ drinking interferes with their everyday lives and they find it difficult to stop, increased by almost 50 percent.
Women had some of the greatest increases in terms of population type. High-risk consumption increased by 60 percent among them and alcohol use disorder rose an alarming 84 percent. The authors also noted that adults ages 65 and older have seen a larger increase in alcohol consumption, with high-risk drinking rising by 65 percent and alcohol use disorders skyrocketing nearly 107 percent.
Take a look at a further breakdown below:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/americans-alcohol-study_us_598dcce8e4b09071f69932fd
//Ühesonaga ku inaised ka veel jooma tiritati, nad murdusid, võltsiks hakkasid (alkohol on arguse ja võltslikuse jook, teatavasti, nõrkuse jook ka ning tihti ebatarkuse jook sest selletarbiate % suur kes ei saa aru selle tulemist)
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/2647079
So what gives? The JAMA Psychiatry study didn’t examine why all of this is occurring but the authors have some theories.
For starters, the culture surrounding alcohol has dramatically shifted, particularly for women. While it used to be more taboo for women to imbibe freely, it’s now more widely encouraged in society, according to George Koob, director of the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, which was affiliated with the study.
“I think it’s more acceptable for women to be drinking in general,” Koob told HuffPost. “The gap between women and men drinking has decreased. It used to be quite large.”
The Way Americans Drink Alcohol Is Changing And Experts Are Worried
High-risk drinking is becoming a bigger problem.
Research published in the journal JAMA Psychiatry published earlier this month examined and compared two large studies where American adults self-reported their drinking behaviors. One study, conducted from 2001 to 2002, contained more than 40,000 survey responses while the second study of more than 35,000 responses, was conducted from 2012 to 2013.
Overall, Americans who reported they drank at least once in a year-long period increased by 11 percent. High-risk drinking, meaning drinking four or more beverages per day at least once a week for women and five or more for men, increased by 30 percent. Alcohol use disorders, which is where individuals’ drinking interferes with their everyday lives and they find it difficult to stop, increased by almost 50 percent.
Women had some of the greatest increases in terms of population type. High-risk consumption increased by 60 percent among them and alcohol use disorder rose an alarming 84 percent. The authors also noted that adults ages 65 and older have seen a larger increase in alcohol consumption, with high-risk drinking rising by 65 percent and alcohol use disorders skyrocketing nearly 107 percent.
Take a look at a further breakdown below:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/americans-alcohol-study_us_598dcce8e4b09071f69932fd
//Ühesonaga ku inaised ka veel jooma tiritati, nad murdusid, võltsiks hakkasid (alkohol on arguse ja võltslikuse jook, teatavasti, nõrkuse jook ka ning tihti ebatarkuse jook sest selletarbiate % suur kes ei saa aru selle tulemist)
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/2647079
So what gives? The JAMA Psychiatry study didn’t examine why all of this is occurring but the authors have some theories.
For starters, the culture surrounding alcohol has dramatically shifted, particularly for women. While it used to be more taboo for women to imbibe freely, it’s now more widely encouraged in society, according to George Koob, director of the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, which was affiliated with the study.
“I think it’s more acceptable for women to be drinking in general,” Koob told HuffPost. “The gap between women and men drinking has decreased. It used to be quite large.”
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/americans-alcohol-study_us_598dcce8e4b09071f69932fd
3 March 2018 23:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hästi kirjutatud lugu ka Iirlaste murest, mainides olulisi suuremeelseid nüansse,
http://irishamerica.com/2012/01/breaking-the-code-of-silence-the-irish-and-drink/
“Drinking in Ireland is not simply a convivial pastime, it is a ritualistic alternative to real life, a spiritual placebo, a fumble for eternity, a longing for heaven, a thirst for return to the embrace of the Almighty.”
– John Waters
We Irish are known for being courageous, compassionate, spiritual, creative, difficult, resourceful, witty, sad, lovable, clannish, hot headed, devious, self-destructive and brilliant. Sociologists agree that we have been the most successful and accomplished immigrant group in the United States, with the possible exception of the Jews. Since our arrival in the U.S. in the early 1700s we have excelled in business, education, medicine, the law, religion, the military, entertainment, construction, professional sports, and, last but certainly not least, politics and organized crime.
For all that success, it is sad to say that we are still known as a race of drunks.
Not all of us, of course, but more than enough to provide a statistical basis for this unfortunate stereotype. A 2009 Irish Health Board Report showed that 54 percent of respondents (about 2.14 million adults out of a population of 4.2 million) engage in harmful or risky drinking each year, compared to a European average of 28 percent.
With respect to the problem of alcohol abuse and dependence in Ireland, John Waters, a controversial and crusading Irish journalist, stated the following: “Drinking in Ireland is not simply a convivial pastime, it is a ritualistic alternative to real life, a spiritual placebo, a fumble for eternity, a longing for heaven, a thirst for return to the embrace of the Almighty.” Irish drinking patterns are, he writes, “evidence of a deep hole in the Irish psyche which only alcohol can fill.”
Widespread hard and harmful drinking is also a serious social and public health problem among Irish Americans today, not to mention the family trouble, shame and enabling silence that often accompany it.
Breaking the national silence about alcohol abuse and dependence in Ireland and Irish America needs to become a priority. Breaking the silence, and spreading the message that recovery is possible.
Why We Drink
Contemporary Irish drinking patterns, particularly drinking regularly to intoxication, have their roots in history where alcohol often made the difference between survival and death.
This propensity has been carried down in the Irish cultural DNA as a sort of unspoken dispensation for Irish Catholics to regard hard drinking as a justifiable consolation for 400 years of extreme poverty, shame, starvation and persecution suffered by their forebears under colonial rule, but which they themselves may never have endured.
The living conditions of the Irish peasantry during the 17th and 18th centuries were indeed abominable. Periodic famine led to life-threatening starvation, fatal diseases, illegal dispossession of lands through eviction, and forcible banishment to barren and inhospitable regions of the country. The miserable lot of Ireland’s Catholic poor declined to an even greater extent after 1691, when the draconian Penal Laws were introduced “to further impoverish the Irish, prevent the growth of Popery, and eliminate Catholic land ownership.”
By the early 1600s, heavy drinking was widespread among the peasant classes in Ireland (who were mostly Catholic and poor) and the aristocratic landowners (who were mostly Protestant and rich, with a small minority of Catholics). Using land agents, many of whom were Catholic, landlords from both groups mercilessly exploited the small farmers and the cottiers for all they were worth – which was, in reality, next to nothing.
To dull the chronic pain of hunger and humiliation, the peasantry drank home-distilled poitin, made from potatoes or grain, while the upper classes guzzled imported beer, brandy and wine in massive amounts. At one time it was said that every second cottage had a poitin still, which could legally produce up to 12 gallons of uisgue beatha (Irish whiskey) at a time.
Around 1780, evicted tenants began to form secret societies such as Rapparees, Rockites and White Boys, to conduct terrorist activities against landlords and others thought to represent the hated colonial government. These dangerous guerrilla actions were usually carried out at night, by young men undoubtedly bolstered by generous draughts of high-quality poitin
// Jätkub, lugege lehelt edasi, kommentaaritki vast normaalsed,
http://irishamerica.com/2012/01/breaking-the-code-of-silence-the-irish-and-drink/
“Drinking in Ireland is not simply a convivial pastime, it is a ritualistic alternative to real life, a spiritual placebo, a fumble for eternity, a longing for heaven, a thirst for return to the embrace of the Almighty.”
– John Waters
We Irish are known for being courageous, compassionate, spiritual, creative, difficult, resourceful, witty, sad, lovable, clannish, hot headed, devious, self-destructive and brilliant. Sociologists agree that we have been the most successful and accomplished immigrant group in the United States, with the possible exception of the Jews. Since our arrival in the U.S. in the early 1700s we have excelled in business, education, medicine, the law, religion, the military, entertainment, construction, professional sports, and, last but certainly not least, politics and organized crime.
For all that success, it is sad to say that we are still known as a race of drunks.
Not all of us, of course, but more than enough to provide a statistical basis for this unfortunate stereotype. A 2009 Irish Health Board Report showed that 54 percent of respondents (about 2.14 million adults out of a population of 4.2 million) engage in harmful or risky drinking each year, compared to a European average of 28 percent.
With respect to the problem of alcohol abuse and dependence in Ireland, John Waters, a controversial and crusading Irish journalist, stated the following: “Drinking in Ireland is not simply a convivial pastime, it is a ritualistic alternative to real life, a spiritual placebo, a fumble for eternity, a longing for heaven, a thirst for return to the embrace of the Almighty.” Irish drinking patterns are, he writes, “evidence of a deep hole in the Irish psyche which only alcohol can fill.”
Widespread hard and harmful drinking is also a serious social and public health problem among Irish Americans today, not to mention the family trouble, shame and enabling silence that often accompany it.
Breaking the national silence about alcohol abuse and dependence in Ireland and Irish America needs to become a priority. Breaking the silence, and spreading the message that recovery is possible.
Why We Drink
Contemporary Irish drinking patterns, particularly drinking regularly to intoxication, have their roots in history where alcohol often made the difference between survival and death.
This propensity has been carried down in the Irish cultural DNA as a sort of unspoken dispensation for Irish Catholics to regard hard drinking as a justifiable consolation for 400 years of extreme poverty, shame, starvation and persecution suffered by their forebears under colonial rule, but which they themselves may never have endured.
The living conditions of the Irish peasantry during the 17th and 18th centuries were indeed abominable. Periodic famine led to life-threatening starvation, fatal diseases, illegal dispossession of lands through eviction, and forcible banishment to barren and inhospitable regions of the country. The miserable lot of Ireland’s Catholic poor declined to an even greater extent after 1691, when the draconian Penal Laws were introduced “to further impoverish the Irish, prevent the growth of Popery, and eliminate Catholic land ownership.”
By the early 1600s, heavy drinking was widespread among the peasant classes in Ireland (who were mostly Catholic and poor) and the aristocratic landowners (who were mostly Protestant and rich, with a small minority of Catholics). Using land agents, many of whom were Catholic, landlords from both groups mercilessly exploited the small farmers and the cottiers for all they were worth – which was, in reality, next to nothing.
To dull the chronic pain of hunger and humiliation, the peasantry drank home-distilled poitin, made from potatoes or grain, while the upper classes guzzled imported beer, brandy and wine in massive amounts. At one time it was said that every second cottage had a poitin still, which could legally produce up to 12 gallons of uisgue beatha (Irish whiskey) at a time.
Around 1780, evicted tenants began to form secret societies such as Rapparees, Rockites and White Boys, to conduct terrorist activities against landlords and others thought to represent the hated colonial government. These dangerous guerrilla actions were usually carried out at night, by young men undoubtedly bolstered by generous draughts of high-quality poitin
// Jätkub, lugege lehelt edasi, kommentaaritki vast normaalsed,
http://irishamerica.com/2012/01/breaking-the-code-of-silence-the-irish-and-drink/
3 March 2018 23:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Veel olulist: SOOVITAn tundivalt kogu selle PDF i alla laadida:
https://substanceabusepolicy.biomedcentral.com/track/pdf/10.1186/1747-597X-9-34?site=substanceabusepolicy.biomedcentral.com
Cultural interventions address wellness in a holistic sense, in contrast to Western biomedical approaches that focus on the absence of disease and imply mind-body separation in treating illness such as addictions [9, 10]. Key to understanding the benefit of culturally-focused treatment is recognizing the meaning of Indigenous wellness, which is understood as one of a harmonious relationship within the whole person, including mind, body, emotion, and spirit
// OOO Tõsi tõis... äraSa märgi ,et kogu keha ja hinge ja tundeid tuleb arvestada ... kas üldse ilma selleta, mida nad siiamaani kudias ravisid siis ?+??!
oeh..
[11, 12, 13]. Wellbeing and health emerge from a holistic worldview that emphasizes balance among one’s tradition, culture, language, and community. Szlemko et al. [10] support this notion and suggest that for treatment to be effective it is important to consider the whole person rather than only their physical or mental health.
There are few published studies (i.e., meta-analyses, literature summaries, scoping, or systematic reviews) specifically examining the type and impact of cultural interventions to treat addictions in Indigenous populations, especially with relevance to First Nations of Canada. Many reviews have focused on health education or prevention of substance use problems in Native Americans [14, 15, 16, 17]. Some have examined the treatment literature, but have focused on broad populations, such as racial and ethnic minorities [18] or young people [19]. Conversely, others have narrowed their search to specific populations of interest such as Native Hawaiians [20], Hispanic adolescents [21], African Americans [22], or Australian Aboriginals [23, 24, 25, 26]. A few reviews have focused on interventions to treat Indigenous people, but these cited interventions are not holistically or culturally-based [27, 28]. One literature review considered evidence-based practice in Native American mental health service delivery, but deliberately excluded treatments that targeted substance use [29].
Four relevant literature reviews offer some insight into cultural interventions used, outcomes measured and/or the quality of the research. An early study by Brady [30] involved a review of “comparative material” from the United States, Canada, and Australia on cultural treatments for alcohol addictions in Indigenous people. She found that studies were plagued with poor methodology and lacked clarity about what was actually involved in treatment. Abbott [31] reviewed 10 studies on traditional and Western healing practices for alcohol treatment in Indigenous populations in the United States between 1962-1996. These studies described prevalence data, and the healing practices and Western treatment interventions being implemented, yet the reviewers noted a lack of randomized control outcome studies. Another seven studies from 1970-1989, focused largely on measuring reduction in alcohol consumption, with a notable absence of measuring spiritual and mental functioning. Dell et al. [9] conducted a systematic review of articles published in the Canadian Journal of Psychiatry from February 1998 to June 2008, augmented with a review of Canadian and international literatures on treatment and healing of Aboriginal people for mental health and substance use-related issues. In the 12 selected articles, the authors found a significant gap in understanding and practice between Western psychiatric and Aboriginal culture-based treatment in three areas: connection with self, community, and political context. Finally, Greenfield and Venner [32] conducted a systematic review of the literature from 1965-2011 on substance use disorder treatments for American Indians and Alaska Natives (AI/ANs). Results from twenty-four studies indicated that earlier ones (1968-1997) lacked cultural interventions and took the form of AI/AN counselors and language interpreters. Clinical ratings of improvement were made by treatment staff or community members. Traditional healing approaches were more prevalent in later studies (2000-2011), which also employed formal assessment measures. This shift was viewed as bringing treatment outcomes closer to the AI/ANs’ worldviews.
https://substanceabusepolicy.biomedcentral.com/track/pdf/10.1186/1747-597X-9-34?site=substanceabusepolicy.biomedcentral.com
Cultural interventions address wellness in a holistic sense, in contrast to Western biomedical approaches that focus on the absence of disease and imply mind-body separation in treating illness such as addictions [9, 10]. Key to understanding the benefit of culturally-focused treatment is recognizing the meaning of Indigenous wellness, which is understood as one of a harmonious relationship within the whole person, including mind, body, emotion, and spirit
// OOO Tõsi tõis... äraSa märgi ,et kogu keha ja hinge ja tundeid tuleb arvestada ... kas üldse ilma selleta, mida nad siiamaani kudias ravisid siis ?+??!
oeh..
[11, 12, 13]. Wellbeing and health emerge from a holistic worldview that emphasizes balance among one’s tradition, culture, language, and community. Szlemko et al. [10] support this notion and suggest that for treatment to be effective it is important to consider the whole person rather than only their physical or mental health.
There are few published studies (i.e., meta-analyses, literature summaries, scoping, or systematic reviews) specifically examining the type and impact of cultural interventions to treat addictions in Indigenous populations, especially with relevance to First Nations of Canada. Many reviews have focused on health education or prevention of substance use problems in Native Americans [14, 15, 16, 17]. Some have examined the treatment literature, but have focused on broad populations, such as racial and ethnic minorities [18] or young people [19]. Conversely, others have narrowed their search to specific populations of interest such as Native Hawaiians [20], Hispanic adolescents [21], African Americans [22], or Australian Aboriginals [23, 24, 25, 26]. A few reviews have focused on interventions to treat Indigenous people, but these cited interventions are not holistically or culturally-based [27, 28]. One literature review considered evidence-based practice in Native American mental health service delivery, but deliberately excluded treatments that targeted substance use [29].
Four relevant literature reviews offer some insight into cultural interventions used, outcomes measured and/or the quality of the research. An early study by Brady [30] involved a review of “comparative material” from the United States, Canada, and Australia on cultural treatments for alcohol addictions in Indigenous people. She found that studies were plagued with poor methodology and lacked clarity about what was actually involved in treatment. Abbott [31] reviewed 10 studies on traditional and Western healing practices for alcohol treatment in Indigenous populations in the United States between 1962-1996. These studies described prevalence data, and the healing practices and Western treatment interventions being implemented, yet the reviewers noted a lack of randomized control outcome studies. Another seven studies from 1970-1989, focused largely on measuring reduction in alcohol consumption, with a notable absence of measuring spiritual and mental functioning. Dell et al. [9] conducted a systematic review of articles published in the Canadian Journal of Psychiatry from February 1998 to June 2008, augmented with a review of Canadian and international literatures on treatment and healing of Aboriginal people for mental health and substance use-related issues. In the 12 selected articles, the authors found a significant gap in understanding and practice between Western psychiatric and Aboriginal culture-based treatment in three areas: connection with self, community, and political context. Finally, Greenfield and Venner [32] conducted a systematic review of the literature from 1965-2011 on substance use disorder treatments for American Indians and Alaska Natives (AI/ANs). Results from twenty-four studies indicated that earlier ones (1968-1997) lacked cultural interventions and took the form of AI/AN counselors and language interpreters. Clinical ratings of improvement were made by treatment staff or community members. Traditional healing approaches were more prevalent in later studies (2000-2011), which also employed formal assessment measures. This shift was viewed as bringing treatment outcomes closer to the AI/ANs’ worldviews.
3 March 2018 23:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Cultural interventions to treat addictions in Indigenous populations: findings from a scoping study
Abstract
Background
Cultural interventions offer the hope and promise of healing from addictions for Indigenous people.a However, there are few published studies specifically examining the type and impact of these interventions. Positioned within the Honouring Our Strengths: Culture as Intervention project, a scoping study was conducted to describe what is known about the characteristics of culture-based programs and to examine the outcomes collected and effects of these interventions on wellness.
Methods
This review followed established methods for scoping studies, including a final stage of consultation with stakeholders. The data search and extraction were also guided by the “PICO” (Patient/population, Intervention, Comparison, and Outcome) method, for which we defined each element, but did not require direct comparisons between treatment and control groups. Twelve databases from the scientific literature and 13 databases from the grey literature were searched up to October 26, 2012.
Results
The search strategy yielded 4,518 articles. Nineteen studies were included from the United States (58%) and Canada (42%), that involved residential programs (58%), and all (100%) integrated Western and culture-based treatment services. Seventeen types of cultural interventions were found, with sweat lodge ceremonies the most commonly (68%) enacted. Study samples ranged from 11 to 2,685 clients. Just over half of studies involved quasi-experimental designs (53%). Most articles (90%) measured physical wellness, with fewer (37%) examining spiritual health. Results show benefits in all areas of wellness, particularly by reducing or eliminating substance use problems in 74% of studies.
Conclusions
Evidence from this scoping study suggests that the culture-based interventions used in addictions treatment for Indigenous people are beneficial to help improve client functioning in all areas of wellness. There is a need for well-designed studies to address the question of best relational or contextual fit of cultural practices given a particular place, time, and population group. Addiction researchers and treatment providers are encouraged to work together to make further inroads into expanding the study of culture-based interventions from multiple perspectives and locations.
Keywords
First NationsCultural interventionsAddictionsIndigenousTreatment interventions
Background
The hope and promise of healing from addictions for Indigenous people are rooted in cultural interventions. From sweat lodges [1, 2] to traditional teachings [3, 4], these regionally diverse interventions are commonly located within the context of Indigenous treatment programs and integrated into existing treatment practices [5]. They are led by individuals who are sanctioned and recognized by traditional teachers, community members, and spiritual beings to facilitate cultural activities [6, 7]. For example, in Canada, the 56 National Native Alcohol and Drug Abuse Programs and nine Youth Solvent Addiction Program treatment centres emphasize that Indigenous traditional culture is vital for client healing and wellness [8]. Both programs run under the auspices of First Nations communities and support a network of residential treatment and community prevention programs informed by Indigenous spirituality and origin stories.
https://substanceabusepolicy.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1747-597X-9-34
Abstract
Background
Cultural interventions offer the hope and promise of healing from addictions for Indigenous people.a However, there are few published studies specifically examining the type and impact of these interventions. Positioned within the Honouring Our Strengths: Culture as Intervention project, a scoping study was conducted to describe what is known about the characteristics of culture-based programs and to examine the outcomes collected and effects of these interventions on wellness.
Methods
This review followed established methods for scoping studies, including a final stage of consultation with stakeholders. The data search and extraction were also guided by the “PICO” (Patient/population, Intervention, Comparison, and Outcome) method, for which we defined each element, but did not require direct comparisons between treatment and control groups. Twelve databases from the scientific literature and 13 databases from the grey literature were searched up to October 26, 2012.
Results
The search strategy yielded 4,518 articles. Nineteen studies were included from the United States (58%) and Canada (42%), that involved residential programs (58%), and all (100%) integrated Western and culture-based treatment services. Seventeen types of cultural interventions were found, with sweat lodge ceremonies the most commonly (68%) enacted. Study samples ranged from 11 to 2,685 clients. Just over half of studies involved quasi-experimental designs (53%). Most articles (90%) measured physical wellness, with fewer (37%) examining spiritual health. Results show benefits in all areas of wellness, particularly by reducing or eliminating substance use problems in 74% of studies.
Conclusions
Evidence from this scoping study suggests that the culture-based interventions used in addictions treatment for Indigenous people are beneficial to help improve client functioning in all areas of wellness. There is a need for well-designed studies to address the question of best relational or contextual fit of cultural practices given a particular place, time, and population group. Addiction researchers and treatment providers are encouraged to work together to make further inroads into expanding the study of culture-based interventions from multiple perspectives and locations.
Keywords
First NationsCultural interventionsAddictionsIndigenousTreatment interventions
Background
The hope and promise of healing from addictions for Indigenous people are rooted in cultural interventions. From sweat lodges [1, 2] to traditional teachings [3, 4], these regionally diverse interventions are commonly located within the context of Indigenous treatment programs and integrated into existing treatment practices [5]. They are led by individuals who are sanctioned and recognized by traditional teachers, community members, and spiritual beings to facilitate cultural activities [6, 7]. For example, in Canada, the 56 National Native Alcohol and Drug Abuse Programs and nine Youth Solvent Addiction Program treatment centres emphasize that Indigenous traditional culture is vital for client healing and wellness [8]. Both programs run under the auspices of First Nations communities and support a network of residential treatment and community prevention programs informed by Indigenous spirituality and origin stories.
https://substanceabusepolicy.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1747-597X-9-34
https://substanceabusepolicy.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1747-597X-9-34
3 March 2018 23:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Veel esimesi ettejuhtuvaid linke, mis eri külgedest olulised ja tuleb arusaada, SUUR jõudele, mis see NENDE on ja mitu ühendatud väikearu, alkoholivastaste poole saadetakse, mis meiejaoks suured tunduvad..sest lisa efektid mis alkoholi ühsikonnas hoidmisega mskid suured masinad teevaivad, on megasuured, umida nad arvavad, et vajavad, enda eksistensi turvalisemaks edasilemiseks, mis iganes tavarahva ja kulturide kadumise hinnaga.
Näiteks, kui tegu kultuuri muutjate ja sotalistidest muude vallutajateni, on ju kasulik kui ei mäletata ja mäluga manipuleerida saab seega..
"Side Note 2: Alcohol is Particularly Effective at Inhibiting Memories
Like the sexual response, the way the brain makes memories is far from comprehensively understood. But it does seem linked to N-Methyl-D-aspartic acid, or NMDA, the receptor for which alcohol seems particularly adept at interfering with, according to Braun. Studies have shown that while subjects under alcohol's influence can recall existing memories, events happening during inebriation are regularly hard to remember. It varies with the amount consumed, and seems to top out at a serious 0.2 percent blood alcohol content, but anything from flimsy recall to full-on blackouts are possible due to alcohol's unique bond with the stuff that should make memories.
It Makes Other People Seem More "Intentional"
https://lifehacker.com/5684996/what-alcohol-actually-does-to-your-brain-and-body
If you'd never been raised to think things through, you'd assume that most actions people took were fairly intentional, and possibly pointed at causing you harm. The same holds when people are asked to make snap judgments about things happening. But give yourself any amount of time, and you'll generally think out all the reasons something could have happened, avoiding your natural intentionality bias and preventing heated arguments with otherwise close friends, bar altercations, and 80 percent of all reality show plots. Image via terren in Virginia.
But, as you might have guessed, that reasoned thinking gets lost when there's a night's worth of alcohol moving through your brain. In the Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, researchers detail a study with 92 men, made to go three hours without food, then given a shot of either juice, or juice with more than a shot of pure alcohol. All the glasses were rimmed with alcohol to mask the placebos. The men thought they took part in a taste test, then did unrelated tasks for 30 minutes.
After that, they were asked to determine whether a series of deliberate, accidental, or vague stated actions ("He deleted the email," "She looked for her keys," "She tripped on the jump rope," etc.) were deliberate or accidental. Ars Technica sums up the results:
Nearly all the participants, no matter what condition, judged all the unambiguous statements correctly. However, when the actions were ambiguous and could have been performed either intentionally or unintentionally, the "drunk" participants were much more likely to perceive the actions as deliberate than the sober participants were.
The study showed that it didn't much matter whether a man thought he was drunk; the jump to conclusions about an intention only took place when someone actually did have too much in them.
It's a Terrible Sleep Aid
Ever heard the term "nightcap?" People have long believed that alcohol helps you get to sleep—and that part can be true, for some. Once you're asleep, though, alcohol's interaction with your brain can lead to some fitful sleep—and no sleep at all, especially if you consumed caffeine anytime close to hitting the pillow. Image via Ella's Dad.
Just as with caffeine, your brain proves remarkably adept at adapting itself and responding to the ethanol molecules jamming up its receptors and interfering with neuron firings. It takes a bit for the brain to catch up, though, and when your brain starts kicking in and reclaiming all its nooks and crannies, it can wreak havoc on your crucial REM sleep, along with your more passive, general resting. If you've had caffeine, too, it's a drug that can take up to 5 hours to break down half a dose. If it's in your system at the same time as your brain is trying to compensate for alcohol, the combined "revenge" of both drugs can lead to some fairly restless sleep, according to Braun's Buzz.
Näiteks, kui tegu kultuuri muutjate ja sotalistidest muude vallutajateni, on ju kasulik kui ei mäletata ja mäluga manipuleerida saab seega..
"Side Note 2: Alcohol is Particularly Effective at Inhibiting Memories
Like the sexual response, the way the brain makes memories is far from comprehensively understood. But it does seem linked to N-Methyl-D-aspartic acid, or NMDA, the receptor for which alcohol seems particularly adept at interfering with, according to Braun. Studies have shown that while subjects under alcohol's influence can recall existing memories, events happening during inebriation are regularly hard to remember. It varies with the amount consumed, and seems to top out at a serious 0.2 percent blood alcohol content, but anything from flimsy recall to full-on blackouts are possible due to alcohol's unique bond with the stuff that should make memories.
It Makes Other People Seem More "Intentional"
https://lifehacker.com/5684996/what-alcohol-actually-does-to-your-brain-and-body
If you'd never been raised to think things through, you'd assume that most actions people took were fairly intentional, and possibly pointed at causing you harm. The same holds when people are asked to make snap judgments about things happening. But give yourself any amount of time, and you'll generally think out all the reasons something could have happened, avoiding your natural intentionality bias and preventing heated arguments with otherwise close friends, bar altercations, and 80 percent of all reality show plots. Image via terren in Virginia.
But, as you might have guessed, that reasoned thinking gets lost when there's a night's worth of alcohol moving through your brain. In the Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, researchers detail a study with 92 men, made to go three hours without food, then given a shot of either juice, or juice with more than a shot of pure alcohol. All the glasses were rimmed with alcohol to mask the placebos. The men thought they took part in a taste test, then did unrelated tasks for 30 minutes.
After that, they were asked to determine whether a series of deliberate, accidental, or vague stated actions ("He deleted the email," "She looked for her keys," "She tripped on the jump rope," etc.) were deliberate or accidental. Ars Technica sums up the results:
Nearly all the participants, no matter what condition, judged all the unambiguous statements correctly. However, when the actions were ambiguous and could have been performed either intentionally or unintentionally, the "drunk" participants were much more likely to perceive the actions as deliberate than the sober participants were.
The study showed that it didn't much matter whether a man thought he was drunk; the jump to conclusions about an intention only took place when someone actually did have too much in them.
It's a Terrible Sleep Aid
Ever heard the term "nightcap?" People have long believed that alcohol helps you get to sleep—and that part can be true, for some. Once you're asleep, though, alcohol's interaction with your brain can lead to some fitful sleep—and no sleep at all, especially if you consumed caffeine anytime close to hitting the pillow. Image via Ella's Dad.
Just as with caffeine, your brain proves remarkably adept at adapting itself and responding to the ethanol molecules jamming up its receptors and interfering with neuron firings. It takes a bit for the brain to catch up, though, and when your brain starts kicking in and reclaiming all its nooks and crannies, it can wreak havoc on your crucial REM sleep, along with your more passive, general resting. If you've had caffeine, too, it's a drug that can take up to 5 hours to break down half a dose. If it's in your system at the same time as your brain is trying to compensate for alcohol, the combined "revenge" of both drugs can lead to some fairly restless sleep, according to Braun's Buzz.
https://lifehacker.com/5684996/what-alcohol-actually-does-to-your-brain-and-body
3 March 2018 23:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
moniasi on suts üle võlli osa reaalsuste jaoks, kuid melegagi, lihtsalt kordinaatide suunamiseks, näitmaisek,s kõik see tuleb kogu mu enda, reaal päris arusamade ja filosoofiatega aga kontektsti võtta,
mismastaabis mõttemeelte liigutumised ja arvestmaised
mismastaabis mõttemeelte liigutumised ja arvestmaised
3 March 2018 22:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kes muidu suure haeme ja muskli ning meheteod on suutnud saavutada, talupidamisest pereni, nu nende kallal praegu võtma ei hakka,
nad ise juba olgugi et ka selle külge haagituna on ehk millegiks muuks ümbersündinud kes tihti sadu sleliseid kõherdike vilutud songutega saavad minema pühkida ja paika panna kui tarvis, sest neil muud väärtused ikka paigas, ja saavad aru ,et roppusi korvadevahel ei mõelda, lauataga austatakse toitu ja pere ning naiste hoidmine on elementaarne mida ei pea õpetama,
kuid mida Tuleb õüetada kasvõi kõrvakiiluga kui muidu arueisaada, eriti ülekäte läinud haigetegijatele
nad ise juba olgugi et ka selle külge haagituna on ehk millegiks muuks ümbersündinud kes tihti sadu sleliseid kõherdike vilutud songutega saavad minema pühkida ja paika panna kui tarvis, sest neil muud väärtused ikka paigas, ja saavad aru ,et roppusi korvadevahel ei mõelda, lauataga austatakse toitu ja pere ning naiste hoidmine on elementaarne mida ei pea õpetama,
kuid mida Tuleb õüetada kasvõi kõrvakiiluga kui muidu arueisaada, eriti ülekäte läinud haigetegijatele
3 March 2018 22:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ega surosa neist soengukandjatest lihtsalt ohrid... kui palju neist päriselt ideoloogia algallikad ja juuridad, päris ideoloogialised on, hirmsates filooofites mille nad heaks kiidaks... ku ivaid saaks...
kahju, et ei osata soengute ja moodide thaa näha...
küik need väärakad moed ja pervertsused.. tuleb aru saada miksnad ühsikonnas, kõrgetest kontsadest kuni lipsude ja omakeha augustmaiseni ... nu antke aru... mõelge praktiliselt, naturaalselt
kahju, et ei osata soengute ja moodide thaa näha...
küik need väärakad moed ja pervertsused.. tuleb aru saada miksnad ühsikonnas, kõrgetest kontsadest kuni lipsude ja omakeha augustmaiseni ... nu antke aru... mõelge praktiliselt, naturaalselt
3 March 2018 22:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mudugi egas siis tuleb loota, et nad päris sinna likvideeirmiseni ei jõua, sest neil need plaanid NAGUNII on, juhuks kui keegi eip teandud..
vaid lootus on, et normaalsusele ehmatatud inimesed siis ehk ühiksonna kogu korda, eneselakkumisest ja üksteise imetlemisest (olgugi, et nagu üksteiseideaalsemad koopiad healjuhul väljanäevad), suts oluistematele teemadele ..satuvad
vaid lootus on, et normaalsusele ehmatatud inimesed siis ehk ühiksonna kogu korda, eneselakkumisest ja üksteise imetlemisest (olgugi, et nagu üksteiseideaalsemad koopiad healjuhul väljanäevad), suts oluistematele teemadele ..satuvad
3 March 2018 22:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Okey ma tean mis teha, anda über punaste ja maru marxistidele, antifadele kätte juhised, et nad andmebaasi sellistest seongukandjateks hakaksid tegema,et keda siis vaja likvideerida on kui suurpuhastuseks läheb,
ja siis nad ehk õhinal seda tegema asuvad ja see baas omakorda, siis ehk peaks hirmutama noraalsusele iniemsi ja enda hulgas selle vaimuga nakatunuid märkama ehk hakatakse rohkem...
mitte ei peeta seda ohutuks moeks või möödvuaks nähtuseks vaid saadakse aru, et siis inimene on viamuhaigusega nakatunud
(süvaperverdid ja järjekindlad päris mõttepõhised muidugi hoiavad sama soengut vanduseni.. need päris vaimulised kes teisi kui kestasi kasutavad..)
ja siis nad ehk õhinal seda tegema asuvad ja see baas omakorda, siis ehk peaks hirmutama noraalsusele iniemsi ja enda hulgas selle vaimuga nakatunuid märkama ehk hakatakse rohkem...
mitte ei peeta seda ohutuks moeks või möödvuaks nähtuseks vaid saadakse aru, et siis inimene on viamuhaigusega nakatunud
(süvaperverdid ja järjekindlad päris mõttepõhised muidugi hoiavad sama soengut vanduseni.. need päris vaimulised kes teisi kui kestasi kasutavad..)
3 March 2018 22:31
Margus Meigo commented on Raul Raudsepp's post.
See peaks rava sõnavaramuse, rahvakeele varamuse jääma, to ütlus, piisavalt luuleline, arukas ja vajalik
3 March 2018 22:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eesti peab ennast okupeerituks kuulutama lopuks, tagantjärgi, siis saame veel andeks, ülejäänud maa rahvaste islmis, kes ka noprmaalsusi otsivad mida alles hoida, ... ja kui näevad, et siin sellsied haledad kopeeriad ja loovusevabad robotid peameedias ja riigikanalis KA, siis kantakse see rahvas siin maha kiiresti,
kellel aega ikka sügavamalt uurida
kellel aega ikka sügavamalt uurida
3 March 2018 22:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ratase saatmine EU eesistumise ajal sinna oli ka kindel osa sellest
3 March 2018 22:16
Margus Meigo commented on Raul Raudsepp's post.
Mina näen seda kui kodumaa vastast kultuuri rünnakut, kus kogutakse välismaale tõesutsmateriale, et me oleme ei midagi erilis,t tavaline roboti nupukesed, kelle N liit ja Sakslased üles kasvatasid ja kelle saadete ja meelsuste naris me rabeleme teenides ja kopeerides keda iganes, robotlikult, kuivatuspaberi taolistena
sest sellist jama ju kõrgkultuuri riigiknaalid oma eetrise ei laseks ... kui meiljust salaplaan neid vallutajaid vaheletõmmata ole....
...mul küll on..
sest sellist jama ju kõrgkultuuri riigiknaalid oma eetrise ei laseks ... kui meiljust salaplaan neid vallutajaid vaheletõmmata ole....
...mul küll on..
3 March 2018 22:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 March 2018 22:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis nüüd 2018 ja tundub, et sellest arengust mis tundus ajutne eksimus olema.. ei saadutki edasi,
Ainult lava on läikmaks ja neoonsemaks läinud, lipsud sirgemaks ja soengud nats natsilikumaks ja jututeemad punasemaks, isiksust ja seksuaalselt väänavaks
Ainult lava on läikmaks ja neoonsemaks läinud, lipsud sirgemaks ja soengud nats natsilikumaks ja jututeemad punasemaks, isiksust ja seksuaalselt väänavaks
3 March 2018 22:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis e ipeetud enam hoogu ja hakati koos tähendusvabvalt sedais laval tammuma,
ja see siin veel süütu näide, viisakatest neidudest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6f_Ws6loM8
ja see siin veel süütu näide, viisakatest neidudest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6f_Ws6loM8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6f_Ws6loM8
3 March 2018 22:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis kukuti taandarenguga sellise lavadiaini juurde..
saatel mis pole mitte Üheks korraks tehtud, vaid mida korduvalt näidati pikalt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjQWYYpZjV4
kuidas selline asi üldse lubatud on,... igast vääraregut luanud ja arendanud inimestest peab eraldi baasi tegema, saaks palju häid uuringuid teha nende peresuhete ja elufilosoofiate vahel miskeid ühendusi luues
siis saaks grupiviisiliselt tulevikusennetada kohe töökohtadelt ja avalikumeedia ligipääsust
saatel mis pole mitte Üheks korraks tehtud, vaid mida korduvalt näidati pikalt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjQWYYpZjV4
kuidas selline asi üldse lubatud on,... igast vääraregut luanud ja arendanud inimestest peab eraldi baasi tegema, saaks palju häid uuringuid teha nende peresuhete ja elufilosoofiate vahel miskeid ühendusi luues
siis saaks grupiviisiliselt tulevikusennetada kohe töökohtadelt ja avalikumeedia ligipääsust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjQWYYpZjV4
3 March 2018 22:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
80 ndate lopus, vene ajal, oli POP selline:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FxkvVnNhxg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FxkvVnNhxg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FxkvVnNhxg
3 March 2018 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on Raul Raudsepp's post.
lihtsalt sisikonda ülekseeravalt rõve on see robotlik lavaseadistus uute tulnukate poolt kes seda peale suruvad nii ERR kui igalpool mujal, KMD klubi toalised vilkuvad neoontuled ja pläma,
midagi naturaalset nagu enam ei osata teha ja loovat. Solvav meie hingele ja alaarendav meie rahvale.
Kes oleks võinud arvata, nähes loomingulisi Tammetõru seiklusi ja Osooni vanastajast.. (kus polnud võimlausi) et me kolinal taandareneme hakkame.. miskid odava anime elektrooniliste jubinate kujutised presidendi vastuvõtul loominguvabadel seintel ja... niii valus
midagi naturaalset nagu enam ei osata teha ja loovat. Solvav meie hingele ja alaarendav meie rahvale.
Kes oleks võinud arvata, nähes loomingulisi Tammetõru seiklusi ja Osooni vanastajast.. (kus polnud võimlausi) et me kolinal taandareneme hakkame.. miskid odava anime elektrooniliste jubinate kujutised presidendi vastuvõtul loominguvabadel seintel ja... niii valus
3 March 2018 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ühe teise inimese arvamus Eesti laulust:
https://www.facebook.com/raul.raudsepp1/posts/10209127342815679
https://www.facebook.com/raul.raudsepp1/posts/10209127342815679
3 March 2018 21:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui nii moodsad tahavad olla. siis olgu
3 March 2018 21:50
Margus Meigo commented on Raul Raudsepp's post.
Itaaliakeelse laulul oma kultuurne taust mille saab andeks anda ja millel omad väärtused, kuid see ila mis tuleb, see juba ameerikas ja mujal euroopas 90 ndatel moest välja läks
mingi tyhja tinistamine
mingi tyhja tinistamine
3 March 2018 21:50
Margus Meigo commented on Raul Raudsepp's post.
Tgelikult paneb nutma
3 March 2018 21:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kandku mid asoovivad, kes sooivad, senikaua kui arusaadakse, kes mida miks kannab ja ausaadaks,e miks ei sobi teatud välimusi promoda isikuna eetris ja kui nad seda teevad, on õigus selles osas neid küsida.. ja rahvale slegfeks teha, et see pole normaalne naturaalsus,vaid teatud vaimude , kultuuride ja mõttemallidega seotud, juba psüholooogiliselt
3 March 2018 20:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The rules are derived from Islamic teachings, some of which ban 'Qaza' hairstyles, which include mohawks.
A 'Qaza' hairstyle is one in which the hair at the side of the head is cut or shaved shorter than the hair on top.
Referees have the discretion to judge on a match-by-match basis whether players' haircuts are acceptable.
Officials in the UAE are strict about compliance with the rules as they are concerned about the styles influencing kids watching in the stands.
Confusion still reigns over what styles are exactly forbidden under the new legislation.
Al-Ain star Omar Abdulrahman has been told he is exempt from the haircut law for his flowing locks.
However, Al-Wahda's Suhail Al-Mansoori, who sported a very similar style was forced to cut his hair under the laws of the game."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4226824/Ex-Sunderland-star-Asamoah-Gyan-guilty-unethical-hair.html
A 'Qaza' hairstyle is one in which the hair at the side of the head is cut or shaved shorter than the hair on top.
Referees have the discretion to judge on a match-by-match basis whether players' haircuts are acceptable.
Officials in the UAE are strict about compliance with the rules as they are concerned about the styles influencing kids watching in the stands.
Confusion still reigns over what styles are exactly forbidden under the new legislation.
Al-Ain star Omar Abdulrahman has been told he is exempt from the haircut law for his flowing locks.
However, Al-Wahda's Suhail Al-Mansoori, who sported a very similar style was forced to cut his hair under the laws of the game."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4226824/Ex-Sunderland-star-Asamoah-Gyan-guilty-unethical-hair.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4226824/Ex-Sunderland-star-Asamoah-Gyan-guilty-unethical-hair.html
3 March 2018 20:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid ainuke asi mis on väärt neis see, et neis se emystilisus, ja vaevatud lapse peidetud minevik, ja valu, mis naisi ligi tõmbab... ja siis ohtlikus millest nad aru ei saa ja see siirus mida nähakse, see siirus tagasihoidlikuks nõrkus mis vaimudel tegelt sisse lasi tulla...seenõrkus
3 March 2018 20:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sellise dpildid ise nakatavad, seega eriti siia ei soovigi postitada seda niinaljalt
3 March 2018 20:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
samas peaks,
arusaama, ja oskama elementaarse hairdusega, näha, kurjade ja ohtlikude vaimude kogumit sellises olekus inimestes,
kes jugeb kahelda, et sellel mehel suured vaimukrujuse mured, peab täielikult inimtundmatu olema, ega peaks arvamust avaldama,
kuid rohkem selline, kelle keha on pea elutuna ülevõetud,
kuid ka neid ohtlikusi eip osata vahest märgata tundub..kliinilisse kiirravisse, kinnisesse tsooni, peaks garantiini panema kui inimesel sedasi kubisb...se oleks kui marutõbist ju lahti hoida...
kuid see postitus oli teistest soengutest ja nägudest..
kui võrglema peaks, siis SELLISED vaimud on libahundilised ja need silutud sonegud nagu vampiiilised,
ainult nende üldlõpp tegevus on vastupidisem ehk kuid olemuse reaktsioonid ja mõtted, teadlikult silutud, on neil lipsudel, samal ajal kui seellised aga ei häbene ka öösetel rituaalidel või pdeluses osaleda mis mustamaagia nakatumiseks ka rakendada püütakse
arusaama, ja oskama elementaarse hairdusega, näha, kurjade ja ohtlikude vaimude kogumit sellises olekus inimestes,
kes jugeb kahelda, et sellel mehel suured vaimukrujuse mured, peab täielikult inimtundmatu olema, ega peaks arvamust avaldama,
kuid rohkem selline, kelle keha on pea elutuna ülevõetud,
kuid ka neid ohtlikusi eip osata vahest märgata tundub..kliinilisse kiirravisse, kinnisesse tsooni, peaks garantiini panema kui inimesel sedasi kubisb...se oleks kui marutõbist ju lahti hoida...
kuid see postitus oli teistest soengutest ja nägudest..
kui võrglema peaks, siis SELLISED vaimud on libahundilised ja need silutud sonegud nagu vampiiilised,
ainult nende üldlõpp tegevus on vastupidisem ehk kuid olemuse reaktsioonid ja mõtted, teadlikult silutud, on neil lipsudel, samal ajal kui seellised aga ei häbene ka öösetel rituaalidel või pdeluses osaleda mis mustamaagia nakatumiseks ka rakendada püütakse
3 March 2018 20:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ega sulle naljapärast neid soenguid ei tutvustatud SELLISTE olendite kaudu, pimeloomad
3 March 2018 20:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
selles osas see moslemite kommentaar ja inimsööjate-kommarite-natside asi:
"In several Muslim-majority countries, the undercut is controversial and is in breach of Islamic teachings governing 'Qaza' hairstyles. "
lõigatakse sõjamõõgaga te soengud ümber kui muidu ei saa..
""During the late 2000s and early 2010s, undercuts were often associated with villainous movie characters such as Hannibal Lecter in Hannibal Rising, with Johnny Depp's portrayal of gangster John Dillinger, Jared Leto as The Joker in Suicide Squad, Guy Pearce as the corrupt prohibition agent in Lawless, and with various German officers in war films. By 2014, the haircut had become relatively mainstream in the UK and was worn by people not normally associated with the indie scene, such as reality television celebrities from shows like The Only Way Is Essex. A longer version of the haircut with long bangs, inspired by dubstep disc jockey Skrillex,[ ] pop star Miley Cyrus, Kelly Clarkson, and Rihanna, became popular at the same time among American ravers, hipster or scene girls (LOOK picture)
, and female British chavs (anti-social youth dressed in sportswear).
During the mid 2010s, the American and Israeli press associated the undercut with alt-right activists like white supremacist Richard B. Spencer, and with neofascist supporters seeking a less intimidating alternative to the buzzcut.
" "
// pildil üks teine sellest stiilis arenenud moodustis : "Jeffree Star (born Jeffrey Lynn Steininger"..nimesse kohe juba viisnurk topitud, juhaidii..nad ei varja.. "debut album, Beauty Killer"
"Star is also known for his fashion line, Beauty Forever, and his transgressive, gender-bending appearance and persona"
______
"The scene subculture began in United Kingdom during the early-mid 2000s when some members of the chav ][unreliable source?] subculture began to experiment with alternative fashion, and took fashionable characteristics of indie pop, emo, rave music, and punk fashions. The fashion originally included typical pop punk and skater clothing like stripes, tartan, spiky hair, Chucks, Vans, and trucker hats derived from grunge and skate punk fashion.
Due to the internet, especially fashion, hair and makeup tutorials on YouTube and MySpace, scene fashion had spread to America and Australia by the mid-2000s. Notable trendsetters included singer"
// Kui ma räägin mismoodi need asjad omavahel seotud ja üksteisest arenenud...siis kas piisab nendest vihjetest või vaja ka visooone
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In several Muslim-majority countries, the undercut is controversial and is in breach of Islamic teachings governing 'Qaza' hairstyles.
"In several Muslim-majority countries, the undercut is controversial and is in breach of Islamic teachings governing 'Qaza' hairstyles. "
lõigatakse sõjamõõgaga te soengud ümber kui muidu ei saa..
""During the late 2000s and early 2010s, undercuts were often associated with villainous movie characters such as Hannibal Lecter in Hannibal Rising, with Johnny Depp's portrayal of gangster John Dillinger, Jared Leto as The Joker in Suicide Squad, Guy Pearce as the corrupt prohibition agent in Lawless, and with various German officers in war films. By 2014, the haircut had become relatively mainstream in the UK and was worn by people not normally associated with the indie scene, such as reality television celebrities from shows like The Only Way Is Essex. A longer version of the haircut with long bangs, inspired by dubstep disc jockey Skrillex,[ ] pop star Miley Cyrus, Kelly Clarkson, and Rihanna, became popular at the same time among American ravers, hipster or scene girls (LOOK picture)
, and female British chavs (anti-social youth dressed in sportswear).
During the mid 2010s, the American and Israeli press associated the undercut with alt-right activists like white supremacist Richard B. Spencer, and with neofascist supporters seeking a less intimidating alternative to the buzzcut.
" "
// pildil üks teine sellest stiilis arenenud moodustis : "Jeffree Star (born Jeffrey Lynn Steininger"..nimesse kohe juba viisnurk topitud, juhaidii..nad ei varja.. "debut album, Beauty Killer"
"Star is also known for his fashion line, Beauty Forever, and his transgressive, gender-bending appearance and persona"
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"The scene subculture began in United Kingdom during the early-mid 2000s when some members of the chav ][unreliable source?] subculture began to experiment with alternative fashion, and took fashionable characteristics of indie pop, emo, rave music, and punk fashions. The fashion originally included typical pop punk and skater clothing like stripes, tartan, spiky hair, Chucks, Vans, and trucker hats derived from grunge and skate punk fashion.
Due to the internet, especially fashion, hair and makeup tutorials on YouTube and MySpace, scene fashion had spread to America and Australia by the mid-2000s. Notable trendsetters included singer"
// Kui ma räägin mismoodi need asjad omavahel seotud ja üksteisest arenenud...siis kas piisab nendest vihjetest või vaja ka visooone
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In several Muslim-majority countries, the undercut is controversial and is in breach of Islamic teachings governing 'Qaza' hairstyles.
3 March 2018 20:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hakka või moslemiriigilt abiküsima, et sellisele hullusele piir panna. Loodetavasti see pole selle imitatsiooni mõte:
Järgige nüüd MILLISTE karakterite läbi need veel teadvustesse toodi: Inimsööjad, mõrvarid, kõige lamedamad pop staarid ja dfassistid... ja siis lakutakse endiselt sellist jura pähe omale hoolikalt peegliees ennast imetledes, mees??
Kui tahad ennast imetleda siis tee nagu Mina, endast mõned normaalsed naturaalsed pildid oma ajastu salvestamiseks ja imetle neid, ( :D :D :D ) mitte peegliees..
Järgige nüüd MILLISTE karakterite läbi need veel teadvustesse toodi: Inimsööjad, mõrvarid, kõige lamedamad pop staarid ja dfassistid... ja siis lakutakse endiselt sellist jura pähe omale hoolikalt peegliees ennast imetledes, mees??
Kui tahad ennast imetleda siis tee nagu Mina, endast mõned normaalsed naturaalsed pildid oma ajastu salvestamiseks ja imetle neid, ( :D :D :D ) mitte peegliees..
3 March 2018 20:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
3 March 2018 20:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ku arusaada ei soovita, mismoodi vaimud eri kultuuride kaudu kasvavd.. ja uuesti siia ilma sünnivad, ..omavahel kogukondadesse satuvad..teatud vanemad algseemneks välja võetud, kelle lastel aega ruladega ringi kolistada näiteks, need enamasti keskklassi parmeates osades..hea seme ja vaim kust edasi kasvatada, tööl olevatest vanematest eemal... mugavas pesas..kuni need vaimud lastekehas tõsteteaks epositsioonidele ja mõtted vilitakse ette ja valmistatakse ette... kuid see laine teill eip lähe läbi loplikult.... inimesed liilat kiiresti opivad ja viiruste osas ennast ümber seadistavad, kes läbi me laste siin ilma kasvada proovib, läbi meie endigi, oleneb kes mida ligi laseb ja kogub...
ja kelle mis onnestub..mis moodi onnestub siin ilmas ohjad saada endakätte, et teenida sedasi, nagu vaja, Loojat.
ja kelle mis onnestub..mis moodi onnestub siin ilmas ohjad saada endakätte, et teenida sedasi, nagu vaja, Loojat.
3 March 2018 20:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ammu teada, selliste soengute ja jõudude koostööd, kes omakorda mõlemaid võime kasutab (KimJong ja Jugend..samad soengud eks...)
"Curtained hair and undercuts went out of style in the early 2000s, but underwent a revival in the early 2010s among indie kids and the skater subculture who imitated the 1930s and 1940s version: longer and pomaded or swept to one side on top and shaved or clipped at the sides.[5] At the time, although the style had many different names, one of the most controversial was the "Hitler Youth," "Jugend," or "fasci." Some of the most high-profile early adopters of this haircut included rapper Macklemore,[10] North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, ] soccer star David Beckham, and Win Butler, a singer with Arcade Fire
"Curtained hair and undercuts went out of style in the early 2000s, but underwent a revival in the early 2010s among indie kids and the skater subculture who imitated the 1930s and 1940s version: longer and pomaded or swept to one side on top and shaved or clipped at the sides.[5] At the time, although the style had many different names, one of the most controversial was the "Hitler Youth," "Jugend," or "fasci." Some of the most high-profile early adopters of this haircut included rapper Macklemore,[10] North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, ] soccer star David Beckham, and Win Butler, a singer with Arcade Fire
3 March 2018 20:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"The undercut is a hairstyle that was fashionable during the Edwardian era, 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, and 2010s predominantly (and up to 2020..30)
among men. Typically, the hair on the top of the head is long and parted on either the side or center, while the back and sides are buzzed very short. It is closely related to the curtained hair of the mid and late 1990s, although wearers of undercuts during the 2010s tend to slick back the bangs away from the face."
Kui see polnud hirmutav piisavalt
"Historically, the undercut has been associated with poverty and inability to afford a barber competent enough to blend in the sides, as on a regular haircut. From the turn of the 20th century until the 1920s, the undercut was popular among young working class men, especially members of street gangs. In interwar Glasgow, Neds, the precursors to the Teddy Boys, favoured a haircut that was long on top and cropped at the back and sides. Despite the fire risk, lots of paraffin wax was used to keep the hair in place. ] Other gangs who favored this haircut were the Scuttlers of Manchester, and the Peaky Blinders of Birmingham, because longer hair put the wearer at a disadvantage in a street fight.
During the jazz age of the 1920s and 1930s, hairstyles of this type were considered mainstream fashion. In Nazi Germany, a version of this haircut which was long on top but shaved at the back and sides was popular among Wehrmacht officers"
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"the unified armed forces of Nazi Germany from 1935 to 1946. It consisted of the Heer (army), the Kriegsmarine (navy) and the Luftwaffe (air force).[4] The designation Wehrmacht replaced the previously used term Reichswehr, and was the manifestation of Nazi Germany's efforts to rearm the nation to a greater extent than the Treaty of Versailles permitted"
// on kutsikad.. & proffesionaalsed kõrilõikajad iidsed..
// Olks siis neil vähemasti osake väärtustest , oksustest ja tarkustestki mis vanaaja juuksesoengu kandjatel oli... nüüd siluvad ennast kaamerate ees
among men. Typically, the hair on the top of the head is long and parted on either the side or center, while the back and sides are buzzed very short. It is closely related to the curtained hair of the mid and late 1990s, although wearers of undercuts during the 2010s tend to slick back the bangs away from the face."
Kui see polnud hirmutav piisavalt
"Historically, the undercut has been associated with poverty and inability to afford a barber competent enough to blend in the sides, as on a regular haircut. From the turn of the 20th century until the 1920s, the undercut was popular among young working class men, especially members of street gangs. In interwar Glasgow, Neds, the precursors to the Teddy Boys, favoured a haircut that was long on top and cropped at the back and sides. Despite the fire risk, lots of paraffin wax was used to keep the hair in place. ] Other gangs who favored this haircut were the Scuttlers of Manchester, and the Peaky Blinders of Birmingham, because longer hair put the wearer at a disadvantage in a street fight.
During the jazz age of the 1920s and 1930s, hairstyles of this type were considered mainstream fashion. In Nazi Germany, a version of this haircut which was long on top but shaved at the back and sides was popular among Wehrmacht officers"
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"the unified armed forces of Nazi Germany from 1935 to 1946. It consisted of the Heer (army), the Kriegsmarine (navy) and the Luftwaffe (air force).[4] The designation Wehrmacht replaced the previously used term Reichswehr, and was the manifestation of Nazi Germany's efforts to rearm the nation to a greater extent than the Treaty of Versailles permitted"
// on kutsikad.. & proffesionaalsed kõrilõikajad iidsed..
// Olks siis neil vähemasti osake väärtustest , oksustest ja tarkustestki mis vanaaja juuksesoengu kandjatel oli... nüüd siluvad ennast kaamerate ees
3 March 2018 20:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja muidugi eks päris kõrilõikajad säravad rohkem teiste imitatsioonide hulgas, kes on selleks Nende korilõikajate ümber, et need tema järgi jäljedates, lubas luua keksonna kus ta saaks oma algses väärakluses sõrada võimsalt, ja täie säraga, kahvatuma pannes kõik koopiad, kes Moe tõttu ja vaimu nakkuse tõttu ainult sedas ivälj anäevad... võrrreldes nende lagsete pärs...
muidugi need ke saravad, et kogu inimene on lihtsal üks isesesev keha..kurb
muidugi need ke saravad, et kogu inimene on lihtsal üks isesesev keha..kurb
3 March 2018 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
PÄTTIDE soeng ja mood, ka veel lisaks, kuid vaimselt muidugi teame, kuhu Rooma ajastuni need vaimud ulatuvad (ka need Nomannid ja vallutajad..kes oma võlts välimuseg avanasti juba ... ), kes ennast mehe välimusest väljendavad.. seega paneb imestama, misk naised virisevad kui haiget saavad, ise valisid lipsus lakitud soenguga barbi mehe või mone muu veidrusega, kuigi need venitatud kõrvalestadega egelased ei pruugi isegi nii hullud vahest olla, sest nende süda vahest pehmem ja vähem siikindlikult rootlikum, teenimis suunaline....samas need erihipsterite asjade mure hoopis vastupidine, liigse pealiskaudsuse osas oluliste olulisuste osas.
kuid sellest hiljem.
kuid sellest hiljem.
3 March 2018 19:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"It Works Differently on Full Stomachs, Young Women, Some Asians, and Aspirin Takers.
"Your body sees alcohol as a poison, or at least as something it doesn't actually want inside it. To fight back, and sober you up, humans produce an enzyme called alcohol dehydrogenase."
"Alcohol, like caffeine,
has an enormous reputation but loose understanding in popular culture. Learn how it's absorbed and how fast, why it's essential to reality TV altercations, its paradoxical sexual effects, and its life-lengthening potential, whether red wine or Bud Light."
Everyone, it seems, takes their cues on how alcohol affects the mind and body from an eclectic mix of knowledge: personal experience, pop culture, tall tales of long nights, the latest studies to make the health news wires, and second-hand tips. You might have gathered that alcohol is a depressant, that it's dehydrating, that you can drink about one drink an hour and stay relatively sober. Some of that is true. But much of it depends on a large number of factors.
Let's dig into some of the things we do and don't know about alcohol. Relevant sources are linked where cited, but much of the background material comes from Buzz: The Science and Lore of Alcohol and Caffeine (new-ish Kindle edition linked there). It's a science-based tome written in a clear language by Stephen Braun, and was the main reference for our take on caffeine.
We're taking a few things for granted here: that you understand some of the basics of alcohol consumption, blood alcohol content, legal limits, what it feels like when you've had too much to drink, and the serious illness of alcoholism. We're not trying to help you get loaded quicker, or drink more for longer periods. We're digging into some of the science behind how you and alcohol interact.
It Works Differently on Full Stomachs, Young Women, Some Asians, and Aspirin Takers
https://lifehacker.com/5684996/what-alcohol-actually-does-to-your-brain-and-body
"Your body sees alcohol as a poison, or at least as something it doesn't actually want inside it. To fight back, and sober you up, humans produce an enzyme called alcohol dehydrogenase."
"Alcohol, like caffeine,
has an enormous reputation but loose understanding in popular culture. Learn how it's absorbed and how fast, why it's essential to reality TV altercations, its paradoxical sexual effects, and its life-lengthening potential, whether red wine or Bud Light."
Everyone, it seems, takes their cues on how alcohol affects the mind and body from an eclectic mix of knowledge: personal experience, pop culture, tall tales of long nights, the latest studies to make the health news wires, and second-hand tips. You might have gathered that alcohol is a depressant, that it's dehydrating, that you can drink about one drink an hour and stay relatively sober. Some of that is true. But much of it depends on a large number of factors.
Let's dig into some of the things we do and don't know about alcohol. Relevant sources are linked where cited, but much of the background material comes from Buzz: The Science and Lore of Alcohol and Caffeine (new-ish Kindle edition linked there). It's a science-based tome written in a clear language by Stephen Braun, and was the main reference for our take on caffeine.
We're taking a few things for granted here: that you understand some of the basics of alcohol consumption, blood alcohol content, legal limits, what it feels like when you've had too much to drink, and the serious illness of alcoholism. We're not trying to help you get loaded quicker, or drink more for longer periods. We're digging into some of the science behind how you and alcohol interact.
It Works Differently on Full Stomachs, Young Women, Some Asians, and Aspirin Takers
https://lifehacker.com/5684996/what-alcohol-actually-does-to-your-brain-and-body
https://lifehacker.com/5684996/what-alcohol-actually-does-to-your-brain-and-body
3 March 2018 06:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Peer Pressure and Alcohol Use amongst College Students
by Josephine M. Palmeri
In the United States, over 80% of college students have at least one alcoholic drink over a two week time period (Johnston, O’Malley, Bachman, & Schulenberg, 2009). Of these college students, 40% are binge drinking
" Research disentangles peer pressure into three dimensions: active offers of alcohol, modeling of others’ drinking, and perceived drinking norms (Borsari & Carey, 2001; Crawford & Novak, 2007). Active offers of alcohol may be the most obvious and direct form of peer pressure. These offers range from a simple gesture to highly encouraging a peer to drink (Borsari & Carey, 2001). Some examples include being offered a drink, being bought a drink, or having your drink refilled without asking (Wood, Read, Mitchell, & Brand, 2004). Explicit offers are more prominent for those students who attend parties and decide not to drink. This is because these students are seen as abnormal (i.e., the out-group) from the rest of the college community (i.e., the in-group); thus, non-drinkers are an easy target for drink offers and teasing from their peers (Borsari & Carey, 2001).
The second and third dimensions of peer pressure are less obvious because students are influenced indirectly. The second dimension, modeling of others’ drinking, is defined as a temporary imitation of peer’s behaviors (Borsari & Carey, 2001). College students will often imitate the level of drinking of the peer within their immediate environment that is drinking the heaviest and is the most sociable"
https://steinhardt.nyu.edu/appsych/opus/issues/2011/fall/peer
by Josephine M. Palmeri
In the United States, over 80% of college students have at least one alcoholic drink over a two week time period (Johnston, O’Malley, Bachman, & Schulenberg, 2009). Of these college students, 40% are binge drinking
" Research disentangles peer pressure into three dimensions: active offers of alcohol, modeling of others’ drinking, and perceived drinking norms (Borsari & Carey, 2001; Crawford & Novak, 2007). Active offers of alcohol may be the most obvious and direct form of peer pressure. These offers range from a simple gesture to highly encouraging a peer to drink (Borsari & Carey, 2001). Some examples include being offered a drink, being bought a drink, or having your drink refilled without asking (Wood, Read, Mitchell, & Brand, 2004). Explicit offers are more prominent for those students who attend parties and decide not to drink. This is because these students are seen as abnormal (i.e., the out-group) from the rest of the college community (i.e., the in-group); thus, non-drinkers are an easy target for drink offers and teasing from their peers (Borsari & Carey, 2001).
The second and third dimensions of peer pressure are less obvious because students are influenced indirectly. The second dimension, modeling of others’ drinking, is defined as a temporary imitation of peer’s behaviors (Borsari & Carey, 2001). College students will often imitate the level of drinking of the peer within their immediate environment that is drinking the heaviest and is the most sociable"
https://steinhardt.nyu.edu/appsych/opus/issues/2011/fall/peer
https://steinhardt.nyu.edu/appsych/opus/issues/2011/fall/peer
3 March 2018 06:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Palju häid Väärarvamusi & Nõuandeid kah sääl!
3 March 2018 06:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muide jah, mu eelmise postituse jätkuks:
https://web.archive.org/web/20080209145426/http://www.hot.ee:80/spioonipood/spioonitarkused.htm
"
" Spioon peab ellujäämiseks valdama palju tarkusi. Neist mõningaid. Minskis asuvas endises KGB koolis õpetati muu seas ka puskari ajamist. Piiritus kõlbab peale seespidise tarvitamise ka haavade desinfitseerimiseks, teatud vahendite valmistamiseks, vahel isegi külaagentuuri värbamiseks.
Siin mõned retseptid.
Kõige kvaliteetsema samogonni (eesti k. puskar) saab ...
Edasi lugege peatselt ilmuvas raamatus "Spioonitarkused". "
Eelmine postitus:
( https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214383458437036 )
(kui keegi liiga äraerutus selle telefoni uudiste peale, sis..)
http://www.elfafoorum.ee/archive/index.php/t-7910.html
"GSMi saatja ei hakka ju ise saatma kui teda keegi ei juhi. Viimasega tegeleb mobiilis vist DSP-prose? Seega kui ta koodis on olemas lõik mis peab sidet ka väljalülitatud olukorras, ...no see on küll maru huvitav. Kas tõepoolest on nii?
Ma oletaks et saatja kui kõige suuremat võimsust tarbiv tükk telefonis on lihtsalt selle pärast ilma vahelülitita toites et liigset (suurema võimsusega) lülititranssi kokku hoida (tarbetu ju ka). Autos on samuti starter otse aku küljes"
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"Kui nüüd eeldada, et mobiil lutikana toimiks, peaks keegi ka suundantenniga järele lonkima. Naiteks Nokia saatevõimsus on 0,1-1W 1800/1900MHz puhul ja kuni 2W 900MHz peal. Kõne või messi saatmisel kasutatakse tavaliselt täit võimsust ja madalal võimsusel side lihtsalt katkeb, mitte nagu vanal NMT ajal, mil viletsa side puhul tulid sisse sahinad, aga kõne oli veel arusaadav.
Teoreetiliselt poleks mingi probleem sisselülitud mobiil mujalt saatele panna...ise küsimus, kas see on vajalik. Tavaliselt on just vargad ise kõige suuremas hirmus, et nende tagant varastatakse :D
Väheusutav, et väljalülitud mobiilist midagi eetrisse läheks...saatja võib küll toitega otseühenduses olla, kuid saateosa üksinda ei saada veel midagi ja kõnet kohe kindlasti mitte...aga paranoiline kardab oma varju ka... ;)"
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Huumorit ka lisaks naljale:
"Suurbritannias müüakse vabalt mobiiltelefone, mille sisse monteeritud mikrofon lubab kõnet märkamatult pealt kuulata 300 meetri raadiuses."
"need britid on hullud. selle asemel, et viisakalt küsida hakkavad kohe nuhkima."
https://web.archive.org/web/20080209145426/http://www.hot.ee:80/spioonipood/spioonitarkused.htm
"
" Spioon peab ellujäämiseks valdama palju tarkusi. Neist mõningaid. Minskis asuvas endises KGB koolis õpetati muu seas ka puskari ajamist. Piiritus kõlbab peale seespidise tarvitamise ka haavade desinfitseerimiseks, teatud vahendite valmistamiseks, vahel isegi külaagentuuri värbamiseks.
Siin mõned retseptid.
Kõige kvaliteetsema samogonni (eesti k. puskar) saab ...
Edasi lugege peatselt ilmuvas raamatus "Spioonitarkused". "
Eelmine postitus:
( https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214383458437036 )
(kui keegi liiga äraerutus selle telefoni uudiste peale, sis..)
http://www.elfafoorum.ee/archive/index.php/t-7910.html
"GSMi saatja ei hakka ju ise saatma kui teda keegi ei juhi. Viimasega tegeleb mobiilis vist DSP-prose? Seega kui ta koodis on olemas lõik mis peab sidet ka väljalülitatud olukorras, ...no see on küll maru huvitav. Kas tõepoolest on nii?
Ma oletaks et saatja kui kõige suuremat võimsust tarbiv tükk telefonis on lihtsalt selle pärast ilma vahelülitita toites et liigset (suurema võimsusega) lülititranssi kokku hoida (tarbetu ju ka). Autos on samuti starter otse aku küljes"
-
"Kui nüüd eeldada, et mobiil lutikana toimiks, peaks keegi ka suundantenniga järele lonkima. Naiteks Nokia saatevõimsus on 0,1-1W 1800/1900MHz puhul ja kuni 2W 900MHz peal. Kõne või messi saatmisel kasutatakse tavaliselt täit võimsust ja madalal võimsusel side lihtsalt katkeb, mitte nagu vanal NMT ajal, mil viletsa side puhul tulid sisse sahinad, aga kõne oli veel arusaadav.
Teoreetiliselt poleks mingi probleem sisselülitud mobiil mujalt saatele panna...ise küsimus, kas see on vajalik. Tavaliselt on just vargad ise kõige suuremas hirmus, et nende tagant varastatakse :D
Väheusutav, et väljalülitud mobiilist midagi eetrisse läheks...saatja võib küll toitega otseühenduses olla, kuid saateosa üksinda ei saada veel midagi ja kõnet kohe kindlasti mitte...aga paranoiline kardab oma varju ka... ;)"
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Huumorit ka lisaks naljale:
"Suurbritannias müüakse vabalt mobiiltelefone, mille sisse monteeritud mikrofon lubab kõnet märkamatult pealt kuulata 300 meetri raadiuses."
"need britid on hullud. selle asemel, et viisakalt küsida hakkavad kohe nuhkima."
https://web.archive.org/web/20080209145426/http://www.hot.ee:80/spioonipood/spioonitarkused.htm
3 March 2018 06:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
trump
3 March 2018 05:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
unes juba nägn ka mingiaeg, et ta sääl maa kuulamas käis, kinnisvara osas
3 March 2018 05:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vide nagu 4 miinus, kuid muidu pigem nagu rohkem neli pluss kui kolm pluss.
3 March 2018 05:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
st, see üleliia takerdumine, pole tarvis, ega enamus toetajad pole päris 14 aastased.
Kuid eks neid videosi annab veel mitmesuguseid teha egas osalised kuskil kao,
Kuid see hea näha,et see projekt kindlasti õnnestub
Raamatu enda koostamse osas, veel kindlasti piiluge ka Kabala ümbruskonnast pildi ja ajalooraamatu viimaseid tegijaid , neil prof toodang ja ka Viljandi selle vana legendaarse linnapeakohta raamatu teinud inimesed... ja ühendused, sest infokillud tuleb sügavalt ja suuremeelselt, ühendatult teha, kui soovida, et see kõik alles ja ühendatud jääb, sest oma valla inimesed selle info kindlasti saavad mis nad pikaks ajaks valvsaks jateadlikuks teeks, ning väärtusi hoidma paneks ja oma kodumaa olulisust ning lugusi
Kuid eks neid videosi annab veel mitmesuguseid teha egas osalised kuskil kao,
Kuid see hea näha,et see projekt kindlasti õnnestub
Raamatu enda koostamse osas, veel kindlasti piiluge ka Kabala ümbruskonnast pildi ja ajalooraamatu viimaseid tegijaid , neil prof toodang ja ka Viljandi selle vana legendaarse linnapeakohta raamatu teinud inimesed... ja ühendused, sest infokillud tuleb sügavalt ja suuremeelselt, ühendatult teha, kui soovida, et see kõik alles ja ühendatud jääb, sest oma valla inimesed selle info kindlasti saavad mis nad pikaks ajaks valvsaks jateadlikuks teeks, ning väärtusi hoidma paneks ja oma kodumaa olulisust ning lugusi
3 March 2018 05:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ise muidugi tahtsin kohe norida, et juba liiga moodsaks teinud video
https://www.hooandja.ee/projekt/kogukonnaraamat-ohus-kalamaja ja üks suur viisnurk ka sisse pugenud, kuigi võiks meelega mitte neid nurki kaasata.
Kuid jah, proovige leida ja mainitud M. Läänesaar ülesleida, tema usaldus võita ja siis neid lugusi kihiti mida ta suviti selle piirkonnakohta teaks vajaliks toonis rääkida...ja jeerum, ta enda elu eraelu toon veel eriti lahe,
nng peeter eip vaja vist üldse tutvustamist kellel kes toidu-meditatsiooni-ristitarkuse ja võibolla ka taimeshamanismi varsti haldab
https://www.hooandja.ee/projekt/kogukonnaraamat-ohus-kalamaja ja üks suur viisnurk ka sisse pugenud, kuigi võiks meelega mitte neid nurki kaasata.
Kuid jah, proovige leida ja mainitud M. Läänesaar ülesleida, tema usaldus võita ja siis neid lugusi kihiti mida ta suviti selle piirkonnakohta teaks vajaliks toonis rääkida...ja jeerum, ta enda elu eraelu toon veel eriti lahe,
nng peeter eip vaja vist üldse tutvustamist kellel kes toidu-meditatsiooni-ristitarkuse ja võibolla ka taimeshamanismi varsti haldab
https://www.hooandja.ee/projekt/kogukonnaraamat-ohus-kalamaja
3 March 2018 05:42
Margus Meigo commented on Mikk Marran's photo.
Nagu sellest Eesti alustalade sarjast
Tugeva muhedusega tagasihoidlik ja eeskujulik
Tugeva muhedusega tagasihoidlik ja eeskujulik
3 March 2018 04:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Renee Danyo Melton Coupland and taking in to account how Much You are more compared to society seemingly average, ..
Well, i continue when i get smarter, my tape run out.
Well, i continue when i get smarter, my tape run out.
3 March 2018 04:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Renee Danyo Melton Coupland why poor?
3 March 2018 04:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
As long they hold on to Becky, it's alright!.
3 March 2018 04:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
3 March 2018 04:30
Margus Meigo commented on Renee Danyo Melton Coupland's photo.
Oh boy, the now i understand , it is Becky Dee in future & Becky Lee
3 March 2018 04:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
palju neid leibasi pole mis sedasi magusalt maitseks ka vanana
3 March 2018 04:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu mõtle ennast siis suureks laineks kui veeosaksed liialt osakased tunduvad Su oma tähtsuses, kuid Mereks ennast mõeld,a siis peab ikka päris palju saavutatud või käsil olema
3 March 2018 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lainetagem kooos
3 March 2018 03:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
lipsu totrusi, st
3 March 2018 03:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
NU see postitus oli täielik viga :D
vist
vist
3 March 2018 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid ühte kohta oli vaja veel saata lmap, see kahjuks nüüd tuli meelde,
Leidale, või kes see vana lahe Daam oli Vanadekodust,
andis hea moods taskulambi mul kuid vana hea neljakandilisebatarei oma pidin vasta sebima oma peas,
aga jätsin oma vaesuses meeltesse omale, et ise nagu teeksin heateo, mis ka hea, kui vaid veel saaks, kuid samas pidin tülitama ta perekonda, et kas nad selle labi viia saavad neil, kui ei viin ise, odav lamp, kuid hea rõõm,
kuna daam muidu ei näe ka veel hästi vaegnägija kohta, ja eriti öösel,
Nendelt naiselt ma ei imesta, kui ... nendel ka tuleks vaadata,
KÕIKIDES nendes, sest see lopuks ka sõjalne projekt arvestades kelle käteläbi need kelle kätesse jääda ja sattuda võivad, kujutlades ette, kui keegi kellegijaoks mingit strateegilist maad siin sooviks, niii heas, kui sõjas,
mõlema oletavatava tipu juhuseks mõni siin võib proovida koolkondasi või maalasi omada
Leidale, või kes see vana lahe Daam oli Vanadekodust,
andis hea moods taskulambi mul kuid vana hea neljakandilisebatarei oma pidin vasta sebima oma peas,
aga jätsin oma vaesuses meeltesse omale, et ise nagu teeksin heateo, mis ka hea, kui vaid veel saaks, kuid samas pidin tülitama ta perekonda, et kas nad selle labi viia saavad neil, kui ei viin ise, odav lamp, kuid hea rõõm,
kuna daam muidu ei näe ka veel hästi vaegnägija kohta, ja eriti öösel,
Nendelt naiselt ma ei imesta, kui ... nendel ka tuleks vaadata,
KÕIKIDES nendes, sest see lopuks ka sõjalne projekt arvestades kelle käteläbi need kelle kätesse jääda ja sattuda võivad, kujutlades ette, kui keegi kellegijaoks mingit strateegilist maad siin sooviks, niii heas, kui sõjas,
mõlema oletavatava tipu juhuseks mõni siin võib proovida koolkondasi või maalasi omada
3 March 2018 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ma ostsin varakult päris hea Led lambi enne seda
3 March 2018 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siiani on ära, hea rahulik üle pika aja, mina ja minu klõbin
Nüüd tõmbasid kõik nii vaikseks kui saadi aru, et midagi teha pole.
Nu kuni kellegil igav ja julge hakkab, mõniöö
Nüüd tõmbasid kõik nii vaikseks kui saadi aru, et midagi teha pole.
Nu kuni kellegil igav ja julge hakkab, mõniöö
3 March 2018 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Teema selles, et üleeesti on ealoomulik selja ja mõne muukehaosa kahjustusi,
NII level elus olejad kui meie ja sellised kahjustused....ehk viimased kes veel alles, selles ilmas aastatuhandete kestev nendega kelle vanused me mõistes neljakohased (näiteks)
NII level elus olejad kui meie ja sellised kahjustused....ehk viimased kes veel alles, selles ilmas aastatuhandete kestev nendega kelle vanused me mõistes neljakohased (näiteks)
3 March 2018 01:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(riik on Meri, teie olete vesi)
3 March 2018 01:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja rahvast
3 March 2018 01:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oleks operatsioon kus ohud kaudselt nagu hullumeelses pantvangi kriisis,
kus riigi inimkonna tipud ainuld üldse arusaavad millises kogu maaosade likvideerimise äärepal on olukorrad mis olenevad väiksemate lülide Korporatsioonide - AS'ide tasemel,
kus riigi inimkonna tipud ainuld üldse arusaavad millises kogu maaosade likvideerimise äärepal on olukorrad mis olenevad väiksemate lülide Korporatsioonide - AS'ide tasemel,
3 March 2018 01:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siis nende olukorra meeldivaks ja sellemaailmaseks muutmiseks mis maaline
3 March 2018 01:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et kuna inimesed (eelmise jätkuks,)
on sedasi, ... siin maal enda eadmati nagu olukordades mida ma ei sooviks kirjeldada sellesüvalõhe tõttu
on sedasi, ... siin maal enda eadmati nagu olukordades mida ma ei sooviks kirjeldada sellesüvalõhe tõttu
3 March 2018 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siis peaks normaalselt ju arusaadav olema,
et kõik tasemed väga kõrgel saavad võimul suurmega valelt, et ülevõimuline hea, ei saa ilma teid ohverdamata...ei, et sedasi nad kahjuks ülikaugteel seespoolt läbi inimeste ja mõndade pistetega
et kõik tasemed väga kõrgel saavad võimul suurmega valelt, et ülevõimuline hea, ei saa ilma teid ohverdamata...ei, et sedasi nad kahjuks ülikaugteel seespoolt läbi inimeste ja mõndade pistetega
3 March 2018 01:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et kui keegi kujutab ette, et ta maal on anykind of war
3 March 2018 01:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lisaks arvestada väiks, et pool teatavalt nõutud seljaravi sisse panna mikroliikureid mis kehakonti imbub ja oma enda seest kunagi hiljem ka miskit muud funtsiooni rakendava, (vabalt ka kaua oodates)
3 March 2018 01:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lets continnue, besides that, it makes crazy,
Alco (või otsustame, kuhu maani mööda on jubatud teada ja mõelda me riigis')
Alco (või otsustame, kuhu maani mööda on jubatud teada ja mõelda me riigis')
3 March 2018 00:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
õõvastav, mis saaks see potensiaalselt animistlikumate silmis
et mis oleks alcohoooli mõte, ja pildikujund selle muusika saarewl
https://youtu.be/cx66IG8QLB0?t=3846https://youtu.be/cx66IG8QLB0?t=3846
Randevuu,
Flore vernans gratie
et mis oleks alcohoooli mõte, ja pildikujund selle muusika saarewl
https://youtu.be/cx66IG8QLB0?t=3846https://youtu.be/cx66IG8QLB0?t=3846
Randevuu,
Flore vernans gratie
https://youtu.be/cx66IG8QLB0?t=3846https://youtu.be/cx66IG8QLB0?t=3846
3 March 2018 00:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Okey, it might have been looked, ... but equally important and more can be:
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/When-the-Mommy-Juice-Culture-Becomes-an-Issue-459152193.html
"Xan You imagine, Mothers drinking has also dark side,
so here you can see, Spirit working
The "mommy juice" culture frequently makes light of having a glass of wine, or two, or three, to cope with the trials of parenthood. But with the number of women abusing alcohol rising dramatically, some are trying to put a cork in the jokes. ",
predext, but
Why they change world alcoholism
to separate each other ability,
// okey, other women had same story,
õ
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/When-the-Mommy-Juice-Culture-Becomes-an-Issue-459152193.html
"Xan You imagine, Mothers drinking has also dark side,
so here you can see, Spirit working
The "mommy juice" culture frequently makes light of having a glass of wine, or two, or three, to cope with the trials of parenthood. But with the number of women abusing alcohol rising dramatically, some are trying to put a cork in the jokes. ",
predext, but
Why they change world alcoholism
to separate each other ability,
// okey, other women had same story,
õ
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/When-the-Mommy-Juice-Culture-Becomes-an-Issue-459152193.html
3 March 2018 00:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Maybe not so much.. but if something is FOR sure,then make sur eto add, that in long list. If something has happened on some, for sure because of this and that.
" The Forgotten Role of Alcohol: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of the Clinical Efficacy and Perceived Role of Chlorhexidine in Skin Antisepsis
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0044277
ALL Political Minimum sentenses Shoud be balnned so:
Abstract
Background
Skin antisepsis is a simple and effective measure to prevent infections. The efficacy of chlorhexidine is actively discussed in the literature on skin antisepsis. However, study outcomes due to chlorhexidine-alcohol combinations are often attributed to chlorhexidine alone. Thus, we sought to review the efficacy of chlorhexidine for skin antisepsis and the extent of a possible misinterpretation of evidence.
Methods
We performed a systematic literature review of clinical trials and systematic reviews investigating chlorhexidine compounds for blood culture collection, vascular catheter insertion and surgical skin preparation. We searched PubMed, CINAHL, the Cochrane Library, the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality website, several clinical trials registries and a manufacturer website. We extracted data on study design, antiseptic composition, and the following outcomes: blood culture contamination, catheter colonisation, catheter-related bloodstream infection and surgical site infection. We conducted meta-analyses of the clinical efficacy of chlorhexidine compounds and reviewed the appropriateness of the authors′ attribution.
Results
In all three application areas and for all outcomes, we found good evidence favouring chlorhexidine-alcohol over aqueous competitors, but not over competitors combined with alcohols. For blood cultures and surgery, we found no evidence supporting chlorhexidine alone. For catheters, we found evidence in support of chlorhexidine alone for preventing catheter colonisation, but not for preventing bloodstream infection. A range of 29 to 43% of articles attributed outcomes solely to chlorhexidine when the combination with alcohol was in fact used. Articles with ambiguous attribution were common (8–35%). Unsubstantiated recommendations for chlorhexidine alone instead of chlorhexidine-alcohol were identified in several practice recommendations and evidence-based guidelines.
Conclusions
Perceived efficacy of chlorhexidine is often in fact based on evidence for the efficacy of the chlorhexidine-alcohol combination. The role of alcohol has frequently been overlooked in evidence assessments. This has broader implications for knowledge translation as well as potential implications for patient safety.
// And then we can start to answer, based on understanding
" The Forgotten Role of Alcohol: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of the Clinical Efficacy and Perceived Role of Chlorhexidine in Skin Antisepsis
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0044277
ALL Political Minimum sentenses Shoud be balnned so:
Abstract
Background
Skin antisepsis is a simple and effective measure to prevent infections. The efficacy of chlorhexidine is actively discussed in the literature on skin antisepsis. However, study outcomes due to chlorhexidine-alcohol combinations are often attributed to chlorhexidine alone. Thus, we sought to review the efficacy of chlorhexidine for skin antisepsis and the extent of a possible misinterpretation of evidence.
Methods
We performed a systematic literature review of clinical trials and systematic reviews investigating chlorhexidine compounds for blood culture collection, vascular catheter insertion and surgical skin preparation. We searched PubMed, CINAHL, the Cochrane Library, the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality website, several clinical trials registries and a manufacturer website. We extracted data on study design, antiseptic composition, and the following outcomes: blood culture contamination, catheter colonisation, catheter-related bloodstream infection and surgical site infection. We conducted meta-analyses of the clinical efficacy of chlorhexidine compounds and reviewed the appropriateness of the authors′ attribution.
Results
In all three application areas and for all outcomes, we found good evidence favouring chlorhexidine-alcohol over aqueous competitors, but not over competitors combined with alcohols. For blood cultures and surgery, we found no evidence supporting chlorhexidine alone. For catheters, we found evidence in support of chlorhexidine alone for preventing catheter colonisation, but not for preventing bloodstream infection. A range of 29 to 43% of articles attributed outcomes solely to chlorhexidine when the combination with alcohol was in fact used. Articles with ambiguous attribution were common (8–35%). Unsubstantiated recommendations for chlorhexidine alone instead of chlorhexidine-alcohol were identified in several practice recommendations and evidence-based guidelines.
Conclusions
Perceived efficacy of chlorhexidine is often in fact based on evidence for the efficacy of the chlorhexidine-alcohol combination. The role of alcohol has frequently been overlooked in evidence assessments. This has broader implications for knowledge translation as well as potential implications for patient safety.
// And then we can start to answer, based on understanding
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0044277
3 March 2018 00:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Pamphlet prepared for The Wine Institute, San Francisco: CA, July, 1996
Alcohol and Society
How Culture Influences the Way People Drink
http://www.peele.net/lib/sociocul.html
Contents
Introduction
I Alcohol problems are not simply a result of how much people drink.
II Enormous differences can be observed as to how different ethnic and cultural groups handle alcohol.
III Alcohol use does not lead directly to aggressive behavior.
IV There have been major historical variations in drinking patterns in the U.S.
V Throughout history, wine and other alcoholic beverages have been a source of pleasure and aesthetic appreciation in many cultures.
VI Young people in many cultures are introduced to drinking early in life, as a normal part of daily living.
VII Many cultures teach their young to drink moderately and responsibly.
VIII A recipe for moderate drinking can be constructed from such successful examples as the Italian, Spanish, French, Greek, Jewish, and Chinese cultures.
IX Government control policies are misguided and ineffective in regulating cultural drinking practices.
X Researchers have derived important lessons from cross-cultural research on drinking practices.
XI Summary: Historical and cross-cultural research point the way to more responsible, healthful, and pleasurable drinking practices today
XII Conclusions
Introduction:
Sociologists, anthropologists, historians, and psychologists, in their study of different cultures and historical eras, have noted how malleable people's drinking habits are.
"When one sees a film like Moonstruck, the benign and universal nature of drinking in New York Italian culture is palpable on the screen. If one can't detect the difference between drinking in this setting, or at Jewish or Chinese weddings, or in Greek taverns, and that in Irish working-class bars, or in Portuguese bars in the worn-out industrial towns of New England, or in run-down shacks where Indians and Eskimos gather to get drunk, or in Southern bars where men down shots and beers--and furthermore, if one can't connect these different drinking settings, styles, and cultures with the repeatedly measured differences in alcoholism rates among these same groups, then I can only think one is blind to the realities of alcoholism."
Peele, S., Diseasing of America, Lexington Books, Lexington, MA, 1989, pp. 72-73
Alcohol and Society
How Culture Influences the Way People Drink
http://www.peele.net/lib/sociocul.html
Contents
Introduction
I Alcohol problems are not simply a result of how much people drink.
II Enormous differences can be observed as to how different ethnic and cultural groups handle alcohol.
III Alcohol use does not lead directly to aggressive behavior.
IV There have been major historical variations in drinking patterns in the U.S.
V Throughout history, wine and other alcoholic beverages have been a source of pleasure and aesthetic appreciation in many cultures.
VI Young people in many cultures are introduced to drinking early in life, as a normal part of daily living.
VII Many cultures teach their young to drink moderately and responsibly.
VIII A recipe for moderate drinking can be constructed from such successful examples as the Italian, Spanish, French, Greek, Jewish, and Chinese cultures.
IX Government control policies are misguided and ineffective in regulating cultural drinking practices.
X Researchers have derived important lessons from cross-cultural research on drinking practices.
XI Summary: Historical and cross-cultural research point the way to more responsible, healthful, and pleasurable drinking practices today
XII Conclusions
Introduction:
Sociologists, anthropologists, historians, and psychologists, in their study of different cultures and historical eras, have noted how malleable people's drinking habits are.
"When one sees a film like Moonstruck, the benign and universal nature of drinking in New York Italian culture is palpable on the screen. If one can't detect the difference between drinking in this setting, or at Jewish or Chinese weddings, or in Greek taverns, and that in Irish working-class bars, or in Portuguese bars in the worn-out industrial towns of New England, or in run-down shacks where Indians and Eskimos gather to get drunk, or in Southern bars where men down shots and beers--and furthermore, if one can't connect these different drinking settings, styles, and cultures with the repeatedly measured differences in alcoholism rates among these same groups, then I can only think one is blind to the realities of alcoholism."
Peele, S., Diseasing of America, Lexington Books, Lexington, MA, 1989, pp. 72-73
http://www.peele.net/lib/sociocul.html
3 March 2018 00:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
another good one
Le Mystère des Templiers
Naïve AM 195
Contents:
Anon., 12th c.: Manuscrit du Saint Sépulcre de Jérusalem (Chantilly, musée Condé, ms XVIII b12)
Kyrie Eleison
Léonin (1150-1210) & Pérotin (1160-1230)
Et valde
Hildegard von Bingen
O rubor sanguinis
Alfonso el Sabio (attr.): Cantigas de Santa Maria
CSM 350: Santa Maria Sennor
Anon., 12th c.: Manuscrit du Saint Sépulcre de Jérusalem (Chantilly, musée Condé, ms XVIII b12)
Honor virtus et potestas
Alfonso el Sabio (attr.): Cantigas de Santa Maria
CSM 29: Nas mentes
Anon., École de Notre Dame, 12th-13th c.
Benedicamus Domino
Anon., 12th c.
Uterus hodie virginis floruit
Gauthier de Coincy (1177-1236)
Ma vièle
Anon., Codex Las Huelgas, 12th c.
Fa, fa, mi, fa / Ut, re, mi, ut
Hildegard von Bingen
Cum vox sanguinis
Anon., 12th c.
Christus patris gratie
Vineam meam plantavi
Offerat ecclesia
Redit etas aurea
Canticum exercuit
Canticum letitie
Anon., Hymnaire de Pairis, 12th c.
Enixa est puerpera
Anon., 12th c.: Manuscrit du Saint Sépulcre de Jérusalem (Chantilly, musée Condé, ms XVIII b12)
Crucem sanctam
Recording site and date, performers:
Ensemble Organum, Discantus, Ensemble Gilles Binchois, Alla Francesca. See links below
Rel.: 2009
http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/cds/abs195.htm
Le Mystère des Templiers
Naïve AM 195
Contents:
Anon., 12th c.: Manuscrit du Saint Sépulcre de Jérusalem (Chantilly, musée Condé, ms XVIII b12)
Kyrie Eleison
Léonin (1150-1210) & Pérotin (1160-1230)
Et valde
Hildegard von Bingen
O rubor sanguinis
Alfonso el Sabio (attr.): Cantigas de Santa Maria
CSM 350: Santa Maria Sennor
Anon., 12th c.: Manuscrit du Saint Sépulcre de Jérusalem (Chantilly, musée Condé, ms XVIII b12)
Honor virtus et potestas
Alfonso el Sabio (attr.): Cantigas de Santa Maria
CSM 29: Nas mentes
Anon., École de Notre Dame, 12th-13th c.
Benedicamus Domino
Anon., 12th c.
Uterus hodie virginis floruit
Gauthier de Coincy (1177-1236)
Ma vièle
Anon., Codex Las Huelgas, 12th c.
Fa, fa, mi, fa / Ut, re, mi, ut
Hildegard von Bingen
Cum vox sanguinis
Anon., 12th c.
Christus patris gratie
Vineam meam plantavi
Offerat ecclesia
Redit etas aurea
Canticum exercuit
Canticum letitie
Anon., Hymnaire de Pairis, 12th c.
Enixa est puerpera
Anon., 12th c.: Manuscrit du Saint Sépulcre de Jérusalem (Chantilly, musée Condé, ms XVIII b12)
Crucem sanctam
Recording site and date, performers:
Ensemble Organum, Discantus, Ensemble Gilles Binchois, Alla Francesca. See links below
Rel.: 2009
http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/cds/abs195.htm
http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/cds/abs195.htm
3 March 2018 00:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga enne see Aja asi... kui vaid neile tööriistadele ligi saaks rohkem..hmm
need tööriiistad mis mu siia tõid saavad ka edasi, tagasi hetkeksi..ja edasi kohaliku aega tuua, kohalikku aega luua
kena dpildid ajas, mida maha ei soovi ju keegi jättta niisama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuAGGZNfUkU (Hans Zimmer - Time)
need tööriiistad mis mu siia tõid saavad ka edasi, tagasi hetkeksi..ja edasi kohaliku aega tuua, kohalikku aega luua
kena dpildid ajas, mida maha ei soovi ju keegi jättta niisama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuAGGZNfUkU (Hans Zimmer - Time)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuAGGZNfUkU
2 March 2018 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
me to, in where is needed, in last moment, when possible..as according to Chinese years as appropriate to wild boar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IRIP-hSfJ0 (Katie Melua - I Will Be There (Full Concert Version))
kuid reaalselt, meil kõigil olemas see, kes alati on siin-seal
Maiselt võib ju mõelda ...et..
Hmm.. niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii vedanud nendel kellel on see kes päriselt ka nii, et päriselt, nii ongi, et alati jäädakse hoolima ja vaimus kohale. (Nu need kes vaatamata NENDE tegudele, ikka mõtlevad nii: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-BnRZ52jHs Katie Melua - The Closest Thing To Crazy)... kuid ei pea ju hullusti...kui saab hästi. ...mis õnn nendel kes õnne vaevavad...ja mis vaev neil mõõtmatu, kes õnneta teistel õnneluuua üritavad lõpuni (nu sest kui endal pole siis teiselgi... ... ja ka see isekaks tembeldada suudetakse, et kui sul endal hea, siis poleks nagu heastsüdamest, sest endal kasu, tunne, et teistel hästi..hmm... nu ükskõik, esiklaas porist puhtaks ja järgmisest abivajajate küladest läbi)
kuid reaalselt, meil kõigil olemas see, kes alati on siin-seal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IRIP-hSfJ0 (Katie Melua - I Will Be There (Full Concert Version))
kuid reaalselt, meil kõigil olemas see, kes alati on siin-seal
Maiselt võib ju mõelda ...et..
Hmm.. niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii vedanud nendel kellel on see kes päriselt ka nii, et päriselt, nii ongi, et alati jäädakse hoolima ja vaimus kohale. (Nu need kes vaatamata NENDE tegudele, ikka mõtlevad nii: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-BnRZ52jHs Katie Melua - The Closest Thing To Crazy)... kuid ei pea ju hullusti...kui saab hästi. ...mis õnn nendel kes õnne vaevavad...ja mis vaev neil mõõtmatu, kes õnneta teistel õnneluuua üritavad lõpuni (nu sest kui endal pole siis teiselgi... ... ja ka see isekaks tembeldada suudetakse, et kui sul endal hea, siis poleks nagu heastsüdamest, sest endal kasu, tunne, et teistel hästi..hmm... nu ükskõik, esiklaas porist puhtaks ja järgmisest abivajajate küladest läbi)
kuid reaalselt, meil kõigil olemas see, kes alati on siin-seal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IRIP-hSfJ0
2 March 2018 23:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
.:. // 83'nda seeria margustele & maridele
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36mlX318Q3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36mlX318Q3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36mlX318Q3w
2 March 2018 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Vahest mul öeldud, et ingli-s keeles isegi paremini tuleb krijakeel välja, kuigi suurt vahet pole oskusel, sest kumbagi pole õppinud, veel, reaalselt
2 March 2018 23:13
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
ei oska kommenteerida
2 March 2018 23:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kõik vana mul on alati parem kui uus,
kõik kes olnud on eeelistaks sellele mis võib tulla,
kõik keda tean, tunneksin uuesti enne
ja see oleks piisav
(mmm..)Argus vist,
mugavus vast?
oskamatus ehk?
Kohtingud ei paku huvi, tutvused vast küll,
flirt ei tundu õige...kui siis ainult lubatuga,
lubatud aga ei saa olema.... kui endale ei julge lubada
sest ei tea
kas võib
ja meeldiv oodata, seda kes avastab..kuid avastus võib lõppeda olukorras, hirmus, kus avastaja lõpuks saabuki siis kui enam polegi miskit avastada...
ja kuidas siis seda selgitada
kui ka kõige ideaalsemal juhul ika saab olema see mida ideaalsustes eemal olles ärahoida proovinud. hmm..
.. hmm..
kõik kes olnud on eeelistaks sellele mis võib tulla,
kõik keda tean, tunneksin uuesti enne
ja see oleks piisav
(mmm..)Argus vist,
mugavus vast?
oskamatus ehk?
Kohtingud ei paku huvi, tutvused vast küll,
flirt ei tundu õige...kui siis ainult lubatuga,
lubatud aga ei saa olema.... kui endale ei julge lubada
sest ei tea
kas võib
ja meeldiv oodata, seda kes avastab..kuid avastus võib lõppeda olukorras, hirmus, kus avastaja lõpuks saabuki siis kui enam polegi miskit avastada...
ja kuidas siis seda selgitada
kui ka kõige ideaalsemal juhul ika saab olema see mida ideaalsustes eemal olles ärahoida proovinud. hmm..
.. hmm..
2 March 2018 22:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
My "There" is Here,
if there ever is true ones who understand in early days,
how and why is my ways,
always... in scale, ...that needs results, around the globe, measurable betterment, in earth terms
wil ldo
if there ever is true ones who understand in early days,
how and why is my ways,
always... in scale, ...that needs results, around the globe, measurable betterment, in earth terms
wil ldo
2 March 2018 22:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so it go,
not that would wonder about it,,,,, paradise for me, is here, on Earth.. (but all else remains..doing,,finding..) and to reach this, is even .. need stronger belief then that what comes after in unseen places
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1dNN0-TEHg
not that would wonder about it,,,,, paradise for me, is here, on Earth.. (but all else remains..doing,,finding..) and to reach this, is even .. need stronger belief then that what comes after in unseen places
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1dNN0-TEHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1dNN0-TEHg
2 March 2018 22:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Magic Key gifted..lost.. found and removed
ye.. well, must break out from that box to see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nSvaqKcwSc
ye.. well, must break out from that box to see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nSvaqKcwSc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nSvaqKcwSc
2 March 2018 22:09
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's photo.
Hakkad vaikselt äraaurustuma astraali ...
2 March 2018 21:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
( " njet " - " no, in Russian / mitte veel..)
2 March 2018 21:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
around?
2 March 2018 21:03
Margus Meigo replied to Maris Laanus's comment.
kuidas lihtkeeles "Editin " redigeerida lihtsamini öelda?
2 March 2018 20:59
Margus Meigo replied to Maris Laanus's comment.
Maris Laanus Tänud!
Meeldivad praktilised inimesed, info paranduslikud inimesed!
Editin varsti
Meeldivad praktilised inimesed, info paranduslikud inimesed!
Editin varsti
2 March 2018 20:59
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's photo.
Pildil nagu emotsioon
"mida kõike ma Su jaoks teinud-tundnud olen ja sa..."
"mida kõike ma Su jaoks teinud-tundnud olen ja sa..."
2 March 2018 20:50
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
..to where
2 March 2018 20:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eesti elu selline, just tänane sissetulnud sõnumi näide vanalt tuttavalt:
//mitte, et elu nüüd Selline oleks..aga selline, kus taolised mured saavad jääda lahendamatta ja massiliselt jutuma ning üldteadvuses, puudub arusaam, kindlustunne, et reaalset abi saaks..
...muidugi abipakkujatel omal ka mure, nad ei oska nõuda alati sellist korda nagu tarvis nende asjade osas mis vaja,
Inimhinge nõrgestavad moed, käitumised ja hobid, mõttemallid ja uskumised tuleks uuendada kindlama, õigemeelsuse ja teenimise suunas,
muidugi teenimisvõimalusi ka riigil peaks olema piisavalt..hmm..
//mitte, et elu nüüd Selline oleks..aga selline, kus taolised mured saavad jääda lahendamatta ja massiliselt jutuma ning üldteadvuses, puudub arusaam, kindlustunne, et reaalset abi saaks..
...muidugi abipakkujatel omal ka mure, nad ei oska nõuda alati sellist korda nagu tarvis nende asjade osas mis vaja,
Inimhinge nõrgestavad moed, käitumised ja hobid, mõttemallid ja uskumised tuleks uuendada kindlama, õigemeelsuse ja teenimise suunas,
muidugi teenimisvõimalusi ka riigil peaks olema piisavalt..hmm..
2 March 2018 19:50
Margus Meigo replied to Maris Laanus's comment.
Ahjaa, nimi vast ikka on õige, kuid Sa suts noor jah "TÜ Meditsiiniteaduste valdkond, Bio- ja Siirdemeditsiini Instituut "i tarvis, uurib, kas ikka päris inimese konto ka siis siin olemas..
2 March 2018 19:48
Margus Meigo replied to Maris Laanus's comment.
Tsekkkan Tsekkan
Tänud!
Tänud!
2 March 2018 19:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Viimased lingid on lihtsalt väike osa kultuurilise dimensiooni kaasahaarmaisest, org. millega peab arvestama, TÄIS eduka alkopoliitika rakendamisel,
See on maakera üks alg allutavatest jõududest..
vastaspool psühedeelikumidele... kes on tundelised ja õrnad ja vaimses mõtes maiselt homamatuid võimsust hinges ülesehitades ...samalajal kui alkohol sobib kellegile labidaga virtutamiseks ja ebamugavuse ajutiseks eemaldamiseks
See on maakera üks alg allutavatest jõududest..
vastaspool psühedeelikumidele... kes on tundelised ja õrnad ja vaimses mõtes maiselt homamatuid võimsust hinges ülesehitades ...samalajal kui alkohol sobib kellegile labidaga virtutamiseks ja ebamugavuse ajutiseks eemaldamiseks
2 March 2018 19:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And hand in hand will go military intelligence in culture control and degrading, and alcohol, when we see these kind of news.. do we even realize to think about it?
"... building a network of puppet groups and propaganda agents that could be used to.." (for anything one needs)
https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/russian-secret-services-wage-information-war-says-prague/
“The infrastructure created for achieving these goals will not disappear with the end of the two conflicts,” BIS said.
“It can be used to destabilise or manipulate Czech society or political environment at any time, if Russia wishes to do so.”
Fears of Russian interference in countries along the European Union’s eastern flank, especially in the Baltics, are growing in the wake of the Ukrainian crisis and NATO has been looking to beef up its defences.
"... building a network of puppet groups and propaganda agents that could be used to.." (for anything one needs)
https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/russian-secret-services-wage-information-war-says-prague/
“The infrastructure created for achieving these goals will not disappear with the end of the two conflicts,” BIS said.
“It can be used to destabilise or manipulate Czech society or political environment at any time, if Russia wishes to do so.”
Fears of Russian interference in countries along the European Union’s eastern flank, especially in the Baltics, are growing in the wake of the Ukrainian crisis and NATO has been looking to beef up its defences.
https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/russian-secret-services-wage-information-war-says-prague/
2 March 2018 19:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Või ameerikat üldiselt?
Sest.. enda aitamisel peame ka kaineks saama oma maa ümbruse... peame arusaaamad ka suurriikide tippudesse viima, mis võrgud lisaks veel alkoholi kasutavad ja mis tegusi see aine toetab.. kui ta sedasi utoopiliselt palju igalpool müügil on, TOIDUPOODIDES??
http://www.disneyfoodblog.com/2016/12/16/alcohol-will-be-served-at-four-more-magic-kingdom-restaurants-starting-next-week/
"Magic Kingdom made headlines in 2012 when Be Our Guest Restaurant, home to the Beast and continually one of Disney World’s toughest reservations to book, became the first location ever to serve alcohol in the park"
"Why such a big deal? Walt Disney himself famously prohibited alcohol in his original park, Disneyland, in Anaheim, California (which is still a dry park, save for the ultra-exclusive. members-only Club 33); and it was his wish to not serve alcohol in the Magic Kingdom, either. So many Disney traditionalists protest the addition of beer and wine to the menus in these parks."
Sest.. enda aitamisel peame ka kaineks saama oma maa ümbruse... peame arusaaamad ka suurriikide tippudesse viima, mis võrgud lisaks veel alkoholi kasutavad ja mis tegusi see aine toetab.. kui ta sedasi utoopiliselt palju igalpool müügil on, TOIDUPOODIDES??
http://www.disneyfoodblog.com/2016/12/16/alcohol-will-be-served-at-four-more-magic-kingdom-restaurants-starting-next-week/
"Magic Kingdom made headlines in 2012 when Be Our Guest Restaurant, home to the Beast and continually one of Disney World’s toughest reservations to book, became the first location ever to serve alcohol in the park"
"Why such a big deal? Walt Disney himself famously prohibited alcohol in his original park, Disneyland, in Anaheim, California (which is still a dry park, save for the ultra-exclusive. members-only Club 33); and it was his wish to not serve alcohol in the Magic Kingdom, either. So many Disney traditionalists protest the addition of beer and wine to the menus in these parks."
http://www.disneyfoodblog.com/2016/12/16/alcohol-will-be-served-at-four-more-magic-kingdom-restaurants-starting-next-week/
2 March 2018 19:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Või USA jms agente?
And they keep Agents drunk also to keep them in line and overthe line..
What best time to get someone to do things that can be used for blackmail and locking on to service then getting person drunk and then ability comes to add some more needed indoxications..clip pixtures or get ...
..and then make "service" of not talking about it, as "you friend, in same cause.. .. as long we are on same road.. and help eachother .."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/mar/17/secret-service-drink-alcohol-stress
https://www.vice.com/sv/article/3b7kmb/obamas-secret-service-cant-get-its-shit-together
https://www.thespiritsbusiness.com/2015/03/secret-service-uses-alcohol-as-coping-mechanism/
And they keep Agents drunk also to keep them in line and overthe line..
What best time to get someone to do things that can be used for blackmail and locking on to service then getting person drunk and then ability comes to add some more needed indoxications..clip pixtures or get ...
..and then make "service" of not talking about it, as "you friend, in same cause.. .. as long we are on same road.. and help eachother .."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/mar/17/secret-service-drink-alcohol-stress
https://www.vice.com/sv/article/3b7kmb/obamas-secret-service-cant-get-its-shit-together
https://www.thespiritsbusiness.com/2015/03/secret-service-uses-alcohol-as-coping-mechanism/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/mar/17/secret-service-drink-alcohol-stress
2 March 2018 19:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aga kuidas Armeenlasi aidata alkoholiosas?
"A Christian country sandwiched between predominantly Muslim Turkey, Iran and Azerbaijan, Armenia likes its alcohol. They also produce what they say is the best brandy in the world and driving into town the advertisements are everywhere for Ararat brandy."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/articles/why-armenia-might-be-europes-best-kept-secret/
"A Christian country sandwiched between predominantly Muslim Turkey, Iran and Azerbaijan, Armenia likes its alcohol. They also produce what they say is the best brandy in the world and driving into town the advertisements are everywhere for Ararat brandy."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/articles/why-armenia-might-be-europes-best-kept-secret/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/articles/why-armenia-might-be-europes-best-kept-secret/
2 March 2018 19:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vot nende asjade sügavuses ei saa olla kindel, kuid kui hoida meeltes, uuema aja esoteerika, luure ja kultuuri kontrolli / likvideerimise pikajalised, sadade aastaste pikkused plaanid, kus generatsioonid purjus hoitakse, et nad selle ise äraaannaks mida ei suuda võõrvõim ise jõuga võtta, maagiliste jõudude osas, mis metsas.. millesse eip suudeta uskuda tavarahva poolt, kuid milles tunnistust saanud suurimad jõud,. kes ise enne laiali lagunevad kui hoida suudavad.. .kuid alkoholis jms uinutades.. iniemsed ise oma patukoorma ja teod selliseks teevad, et oma vallutajad endast kõrgemale ka vaimses mõttes tõstavad, lisaks niigi eelistele mis nodel on mitems tasemes
2 March 2018 19:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-alcoholic-empire-9780195134315?lang=en&cc=ee
"Vodka and Politics in Late Imperial Russia
Patricia Herlihy
The Alcoholic Empire examines the prevalance of alcohol in Russian social, economic, religious, and political life. Herlihy looks at how the "
"Vodka and Politics in Late Imperial Russia
Patricia Herlihy
The Alcoholic Empire examines the prevalance of alcohol in Russian social, economic, religious, and political life. Herlihy looks at how the "
https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-alcoholic-empire-9780195134315?lang=en&cc=ee
2 March 2018 19:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Most important / KÕige olulisem:
Alcohol, Autocracy, and the Secret History of the Russian State
"Unique political history of Russia through the lens of alcohol
Filled with colorful stories of how rulers from Peter the Great to Stalin used alcohol to control their courts
Incorporates archival evidence from entire spectrum of Russian history, from the Tsars to Putin
Closes with a powerful look at the debilitating impact of alcoholism on contemporary Russia"
"Russia is famous for its vodka, and its culture of extreme intoxication. ... argues that debilitating societal alcoholism is not hard-wired into Russians' genetic code, but rather their autocratic political system, which has long wielded vodka as a tool of statecraft. ... Alcohol, Autocracy, and the Secret History of the Russian State."
https://global.oup.com/academic/product/vodka-politics-9780190468811?cc=ee&lang=en&
Vodka Politics
Ammu juba Venemaal mul sõbral sääl ütlesid, et Venemaa pinnal olevad kodused kultuurid pole kunagi olnud alkohooli lebelised, kogu see viinajura alles viimastel sajanditel sisse toodi, eri tugevalt bolševikkude, NKVD jms ajal..
Alcohol, Autocracy, and the Secret History of the Russian State
"Unique political history of Russia through the lens of alcohol
Filled with colorful stories of how rulers from Peter the Great to Stalin used alcohol to control their courts
Incorporates archival evidence from entire spectrum of Russian history, from the Tsars to Putin
Closes with a powerful look at the debilitating impact of alcoholism on contemporary Russia"
"Russia is famous for its vodka, and its culture of extreme intoxication. ... argues that debilitating societal alcoholism is not hard-wired into Russians' genetic code, but rather their autocratic political system, which has long wielded vodka as a tool of statecraft. ... Alcohol, Autocracy, and the Secret History of the Russian State."
https://global.oup.com/academic/product/vodka-politics-9780190468811?cc=ee&lang=en&
Vodka Politics
Ammu juba Venemaal mul sõbral sääl ütlesid, et Venemaa pinnal olevad kodused kultuurid pole kunagi olnud alkohooli lebelised, kogu see viinajura alles viimastel sajanditel sisse toodi, eri tugevalt bolševikkude, NKVD jms ajal..
https://global.oup.com/academic/product/vodka-politics-9780190468811?cc=ee&lang=en
2 March 2018 19:28
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Simon's post.
Heaseegi
2 March 2018 16:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hoolimist, mis inimolemuse oluline osa mida vaja elus hoida
2 March 2018 16:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
selleks ongi inimesed loomadele loodud, et saaksime kergesti neid aidata nois asjus,
ja nod meil vaimseid jms aitavad vahest kaitsta ja muidu, meis inimelikust arendada
ja nod meil vaimseid jms aitavad vahest kaitsta ja muidu, meis inimelikust arendada
2 March 2018 16:43
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Ei saa lihtsal,t kuigi saan aru ,et see pole kõige hullem valu mida loodus läbielanud.. kuid lihtsalt valus vaadata seda, et kuidas ikka nii..
2 March 2018 16:42
Margus Meigo replied to Tiia Tips's comment.
nu ma käituks ka sisemiselt sedasi kui kedagi näeks kes kallis ja keda pole ammuaaega näha lootnud
2 March 2018 16:12
Margus Meigo commented on Matteo Andreaus's post.
Oh, You Do look awesome still!
2 March 2018 16:08
Margus Meigo commented on Nicola Canestrari's photo.
Looks as You : )
Have been taking inheritance of grape fields and family work as responsible landlord or where are You at, still hunting for Earthly angels ?
You Great soul you, lets hope Your heart has grown and as good as am remember and become even Greater in purity!
Have been taking inheritance of grape fields and family work as responsible landlord or where are You at, still hunting for Earthly angels ?
You Great soul you, lets hope Your heart has grown and as good as am remember and become even Greater in purity!
2 March 2018 16:07
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Hea teada :D
2 March 2018 15:45
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Oi jumal hoiaks..
2 March 2018 15:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Estonia: Long time ago..
Finnish: Was it? Did not notice, did our own thing along the way..
Finnish: Was it? Did not notice, did our own thing along the way..
2 March 2018 04:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(ALOTV'st just tuli see "Elagu kuningas... algusega vaheklipp)
2 March 2018 04:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// muidu idee ise oli võimaliku tuleviku selle maajuhtimis platformi vajalik õigusorgan
// algselt, puhtalt, algusest peale, kuid vajaliku maise ühendusega mida välisilm ei jaga nii selgelt,
t ennetlike valesuur manöövrei dtegema hakkaks
// algselt, puhtalt, algusest peale, kuid vajaliku maise ühendusega mida välisilm ei jaga nii selgelt,
t ennetlike valesuur manöövrei dtegema hakkaks
2 March 2018 04:54
Margus Meigo commented on Markus Rattey's post.
Unbelievable, You actually Did stay together, in first sight, would not have bet on that with full heart !
Truly amazing! (Your looks also, still ! )
Great, and looking better also with even little bit-beard Mr. German!
Truly amazing! (Your looks also, still ! )
Great, and looking better also with even little bit-beard Mr. German!
2 March 2018 04:20
Margus Meigo commented on Billy Jean's post.
Life is not short, but it might become to short if not weird
2 March 2018 04:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// kõikdiele postitustele oma privaat ja komuuni tagid ja arvuti tagid ka veeel
ja siis nende järgi sättida skrpite ka mis eri kohtades ei tagidega posttusi näitab sedasi sellises perjoodis taoisi mida vaja
ja siis nende järgi sättida skrpite ka mis eri kohtades ei tagidega posttusi näitab sedasi sellises perjoodis taoisi mida vaja
2 March 2018 04:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kõik muu ka, mis sellega kaasnenud oleks, hmm...
tuttavad eri linnade pidudelt, kes hiljem huvitavate kohtade peal ja eri alades üksteisele abi ja üksteist rakendada saaks...
nu nagu igal eestalsel kes pole ori peaks suurhulk olema või tark hulk inimesi kes kõike kokku teab ja teha saab..
Huvitav jaa, suuresplaanis, nagu ikka kõiki mõtteid suuresplaanis teistes ka mõtlen, et kui suurhulk noorest peast õigemini, paremini ja rohkem jugemalt klassiõdedega pidusi teeks,
mis lärmaka lakkumise vabad suures osas,
ja tihti hoopis muude põnevate tegevustega seotud,,,,
et nagu kui arusaadaks, et maa on õõnestatud, siis teak spiiri mis moodi riigimeelsust tõsta...aga limboga nii madalale viinud ja imiteeirmise aste viidud arvates, et siiis enamus ei saa aru ja astub üle lopuks rahuneb ja kest koik annab ennne kui enda kätte nõuab, kuid teiste kodum ka end aomale lisaks antakse sedasi kui polda arusaamas, et ke s mis oranit kuida skontrolib, see korrastus ka tuleb
tuttavad eri linnade pidudelt, kes hiljem huvitavate kohtade peal ja eri alades üksteisele abi ja üksteist rakendada saaks...
nu nagu igal eestalsel kes pole ori peaks suurhulk olema või tark hulk inimesi kes kõike kokku teab ja teha saab..
Huvitav jaa, suuresplaanis, nagu ikka kõiki mõtteid suuresplaanis teistes ka mõtlen, et kui suurhulk noorest peast õigemini, paremini ja rohkem jugemalt klassiõdedega pidusi teeks,
mis lärmaka lakkumise vabad suures osas,
ja tihti hoopis muude põnevate tegevustega seotud,,,,
et nagu kui arusaadaks, et maa on õõnestatud, siis teak spiiri mis moodi riigimeelsust tõsta...aga limboga nii madalale viinud ja imiteeirmise aste viidud arvates, et siiis enamus ei saa aru ja astub üle lopuks rahuneb ja kest koik annab ennne kui enda kätte nõuab, kuid teiste kodum ka end aomale lisaks antakse sedasi kui polda arusaamas, et ke s mis oranit kuida skontrolib, see korrastus ka tuleb
2 March 2018 03:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Demokraaatia on see kui kõik loomad on lõvieest puuripandud"
2 March 2018 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
jooma vähem, pidutsema rohkem,
elama rohkem, põdema vähem
naisi kutsuma kaasa huvitavale
ja huvitavalt aega veetma ja soovi avaldama, lahedaks ajaviitmiseks milleks oleks vabalt ju võimeline olnud
elama rohkem, põdema vähem
naisi kutsuma kaasa huvitavale
ja huvitavalt aega veetma ja soovi avaldama, lahedaks ajaviitmiseks milleks oleks vabalt ju võimeline olnud
2 March 2018 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi võib algse plaanina vaadata seda reklaami,
"as it would be for degrading reasons" but no... look it how can you turn it to good , using deepest plots of another
"as it would be for degrading reasons" but no... look it how can you turn it to good , using deepest plots of another
2 March 2018 03:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(once they come back from it)
2 March 2018 03:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Also it should not be nice, Donald J. Trump / President Donald J. Trump / Donald Trump Fan Club should help with it,
the women in the beginning was perhaps best professional on her subject but is not appropriate, for drug related topic to have so kind of bone structure and face features woman to talk on these topic giving viewers intentional joking or degrading joking feeling, as one it self will see a bit addicted or even a little bit like some better Meth long time users,
...in so high level gov panel,
so many professionals to choose, She should understand it, the cause is larger, image and the final results matter that will shape the aim and settings that get us there faster ,
all that does not add and rather might make more people unserious, not serious, these ind of details can be found better,
but even much more bothering was one of the colored ones who talk a bit as with a tone, like he knows not much about true man and woman family but repeatedly confirming about values and worry he stands for,
but most of all, up to the question
positions, setting,
filming even was alright,
but setting was near superior that can be for these kind of events, few other settings maybe would become close, but this was proper normal, economic and humanly
text it self also...some smart man talk mistakes , as we would not have solutions affordable ...
and as there would not be solutions, that can fix humans with less then a month, cheaper then smallest paycheck.
and also, ibogaine and magicmushrooms related addiction cure camps, read about, just setting have to be correct and understanding about world in most of all people who is connected to person this moment when one does travel..as coming back... last thing u wanna see is lever lower the ones who are not able to change their study based on human need ...as when they see humans with power have low level of understanding, then this can break down the cure
the women in the beginning was perhaps best professional on her subject but is not appropriate, for drug related topic to have so kind of bone structure and face features woman to talk on these topic giving viewers intentional joking or degrading joking feeling, as one it self will see a bit addicted or even a little bit like some better Meth long time users,
...in so high level gov panel,
so many professionals to choose, She should understand it, the cause is larger, image and the final results matter that will shape the aim and settings that get us there faster ,
all that does not add and rather might make more people unserious, not serious, these ind of details can be found better,
but even much more bothering was one of the colored ones who talk a bit as with a tone, like he knows not much about true man and woman family but repeatedly confirming about values and worry he stands for,
but most of all, up to the question
positions, setting,
filming even was alright,
but setting was near superior that can be for these kind of events, few other settings maybe would become close, but this was proper normal, economic and humanly
text it self also...some smart man talk mistakes , as we would not have solutions affordable ...
and as there would not be solutions, that can fix humans with less then a month, cheaper then smallest paycheck.
and also, ibogaine and magicmushrooms related addiction cure camps, read about, just setting have to be correct and understanding about world in most of all people who is connected to person this moment when one does travel..as coming back... last thing u wanna see is lever lower the ones who are not able to change their study based on human need ...as when they see humans with power have low level of understanding, then this can break down the cure
2 March 2018 03:27
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
Ta mõtles seda hingeliselt?
2 March 2018 03:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
üks kraad vist paremgi suts
2 March 2018 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
Mul ka selline kott
2 March 2018 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 March 2018 02:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ST. nagu äriõiguste ja selle moraali tagaajav ministeeriumi ja ameti etteotsa saavad ainult sattuda inimesed kes siis Mõne tuntud
preestri ja sellise inimese ja maainimsesugemetega kah, kuid see ainuke amet kus otsesene maa ameti osa nii sügav ei peagi oelma kui arusaamad ianult mis ametitega mis suunas läbi ja arusaada,
Kuid jah
preestri ja sellise inimese ja maainimsesugemetega kah, kuid see ainuke amet kus otsesene maa ameti osa nii sügav ei peagi oelma kui arusaamad ianult mis ametitega mis suunas läbi ja arusaada,
Kuid jah
2 March 2018 02:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
asi mida siin mõelda ei tasu küsida nõu kui iganes suure Usuarusaamata ärimehelt,
Mikk, mul ei tule sõbra nimi meelde, see Ususiiruse ja ausaärimees, Jumalariigi meie maale sissetoomise 90ndate eelne suurkuju.
Muidugi hea võimalus Sind mainida ka :p kuid päriselt ka ei tule meelde ja ta esimesena tuli meelde, potensiaalselt Auste Ärimeeste seltsiJuhikohale sobiv inimene, kuigi oma väärtustelt, mitte eluvalikut, ta nüüd nahktagis lahedate siklitega sõidab, .. nu lahe ta muidugi alati olnud, usuinimesena nii tark oli, et sai firmajuhina aru, et võid ju ise valida millise kontori ja tööruumid endale ja tööölistele teed.
Tema ärikeskonna struktuur ise juba patenti või riigis tutvustamist ja promomist vääriv, tööstusruumidest, testimisruumi, kontori eraruumi ja biljardilauast kuni saunani olemas kõige lõpus,
Algas pihta tööstustöö ruumist, pika korruse eri seksioonideks eraldanud kus erinevad töökeskonnad loonud , täiesti fantastiline, selle ruumidepiires mis teha andis esilagse mõttena, kuid kui selline arusaam juba algusest saati on, et kuhmaani firmaomanikul on Areng? kas Autos? Naises ks peab kandilise kontriga stiilivaba kontoritega suurärimeest välja kannatama ? .. häbi ka veel suurem naisel, sest oleks vähem kuulus, siis ei teataks... kui väga stiili tundlik naine on....et ku inaistega ühiskonnas muid asj usuunatakse mehi lukku ja omavahel lukku et siis mõlemad seiskuvad mis niiditõmbajatele kauslik ja aitab lukkus olevaid inimesi üksteisel kiiremini, kergemini suunata..
// ja selle kõi ksuutis ta teha nii tagasihoidlikult ,et igas astmes olles, kuni saunani jõudes ikka tundub meeldiv ja normaalne, et see päris kunstiteos, kui firmad sedasi aursaama hakkaksid, kas nad on omaala kuningad või ühiskonna karbifirmad,
// nu eks ole erisugused töökeskonnad ka vajalikud, kuid päris mitmel äriinimesel ... võiks lopuks olla sellise ärikekonna ehitamine ,mis ehtiad üels ja sisse tunlles ta sind ei piira... muidugi samalajal mujal ka.. kuid samalajal veel hea koht kus sõpradega hängida peale äridiili, et ei pea hakkama sauna minema ja planeerima, kohe saab edsi liikuda.
Vot ja mis iganes patud olid sellel ajal, mis koos võisid olla
---
// see patukahtsus ja lahendus süsteem ka üks ideedest..
// mitmed ministeeriumid seotud otsese iimearengu duunimisega avatult ja suuresõnaliselt
---
Nu vot mida välja kaevasime,
kuidjah, selle ärialguse mõtte nüüd lõpetama peaks,
ahjaa, et sellised peaksitki olema väärtuselt inimesed, kes Pärisusklikud ja headuüdamlikud ning ärimehed üheskoos.
Ka avatud südamega suuri häid ideid kergesti saab kergelt palju tulema,
___
Pigem vaeva tagasihoidlikusega vahest headel, mõtetest osa kulub selle peale ja parem olemata kui üleliia palju milles pole veel valmis ..mõtleme nii, mis hea on küll tuleb veel ilma tagaajamata veel..
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=RHtJ8uEbPl0
Mikk, mul ei tule sõbra nimi meelde, see Ususiiruse ja ausaärimees, Jumalariigi meie maale sissetoomise 90ndate eelne suurkuju.
Muidugi hea võimalus Sind mainida ka :p kuid päriselt ka ei tule meelde ja ta esimesena tuli meelde, potensiaalselt Auste Ärimeeste seltsiJuhikohale sobiv inimene, kuigi oma väärtustelt, mitte eluvalikut, ta nüüd nahktagis lahedate siklitega sõidab, .. nu lahe ta muidugi alati olnud, usuinimesena nii tark oli, et sai firmajuhina aru, et võid ju ise valida millise kontori ja tööruumid endale ja tööölistele teed.
Tema ärikeskonna struktuur ise juba patenti või riigis tutvustamist ja promomist vääriv, tööstusruumidest, testimisruumi, kontori eraruumi ja biljardilauast kuni saunani olemas kõige lõpus,
Algas pihta tööstustöö ruumist, pika korruse eri seksioonideks eraldanud kus erinevad töökeskonnad loonud , täiesti fantastiline, selle ruumidepiires mis teha andis esilagse mõttena, kuid kui selline arusaam juba algusest saati on, et kuhmaani firmaomanikul on Areng? kas Autos? Naises ks peab kandilise kontriga stiilivaba kontoritega suurärimeest välja kannatama ? .. häbi ka veel suurem naisel, sest oleks vähem kuulus, siis ei teataks... kui väga stiili tundlik naine on....et ku inaistega ühiskonnas muid asj usuunatakse mehi lukku ja omavahel lukku et siis mõlemad seiskuvad mis niiditõmbajatele kauslik ja aitab lukkus olevaid inimesi üksteisel kiiremini, kergemini suunata..
// ja selle kõi ksuutis ta teha nii tagasihoidlikult ,et igas astmes olles, kuni saunani jõudes ikka tundub meeldiv ja normaalne, et see päris kunstiteos, kui firmad sedasi aursaama hakkaksid, kas nad on omaala kuningad või ühiskonna karbifirmad,
// nu eks ole erisugused töökeskonnad ka vajalikud, kuid päris mitmel äriinimesel ... võiks lopuks olla sellise ärikekonna ehitamine ,mis ehtiad üels ja sisse tunlles ta sind ei piira... muidugi samalajal mujal ka.. kuid samalajal veel hea koht kus sõpradega hängida peale äridiili, et ei pea hakkama sauna minema ja planeerima, kohe saab edsi liikuda.
Vot ja mis iganes patud olid sellel ajal, mis koos võisid olla
---
// see patukahtsus ja lahendus süsteem ka üks ideedest..
// mitmed ministeeriumid seotud otsese iimearengu duunimisega avatult ja suuresõnaliselt
---
Nu vot mida välja kaevasime,
kuidjah, selle ärialguse mõtte nüüd lõpetama peaks,
ahjaa, et sellised peaksitki olema väärtuselt inimesed, kes Pärisusklikud ja headuüdamlikud ning ärimehed üheskoos.
Ka avatud südamega suuri häid ideid kergesti saab kergelt palju tulema,
___
Pigem vaeva tagasihoidlikusega vahest headel, mõtetest osa kulub selle peale ja parem olemata kui üleliia palju milles pole veel valmis ..mõtleme nii, mis hea on küll tuleb veel ilma tagaajamata veel..
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=RHtJ8uEbPl0
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=RHtJ8uEbPl0
2 March 2018 02:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Discovered Soviet union song: Happy Being Miserable
(so much details also from the video symbols it self can be translated in to it).
(so much details also from the video symbols it self can be translated in to it).
2 March 2018 02:09
Margus Meigo replied to Erkki Koort's comment.
minukäest ka nii küsitud
(enesenali)
(enesenali)
2 March 2018 01:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Raili, Sul ALOTV meeldib? See minuarust väärt, OLULINE kanal mis on EEsti TV ideaali ja Eesti "vabakalaite/maksukanalite" vahepealne lüli väärtuse olekult,
ja kuna nende sarnaseid on vähe, siis tema väärtus suurem kui Kanal2 või Kanal 3 suures plaanis, tulevikus,
Et muud numbrikanalid, täidavad mis iganes kanali puudujäägi ilma suurema mureta,
aga SELLISE kanali asemel, kus nii naturaalselt, tuleb Tavaline,
ja kodune,
seda niinaljalt eip tule,
Kõrvale võite veel teha 2-3 veel,
Eesti ilavaba popp,
Kultuurilaulude topp
Ja kindlalt külainimeste muusika ja kultuurimõtted (muusikakanal)
ja kuna nende sarnaseid on vähe, siis tema väärtus suurem kui Kanal2 või Kanal 3 suures plaanis, tulevikus,
Et muud numbrikanalid, täidavad mis iganes kanali puudujäägi ilma suurema mureta,
aga SELLISE kanali asemel, kus nii naturaalselt, tuleb Tavaline,
ja kodune,
seda niinaljalt eip tule,
Kõrvale võite veel teha 2-3 veel,
Eesti ilavaba popp,
Kultuurilaulude topp
Ja kindlalt külainimeste muusika ja kultuurimõtted (muusikakanal)
2 March 2018 01:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ainult osasi asj usaab veelgi paremalt lugeda, naturaalsemalt
2 March 2018 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga see mis praegu tuleb, see veelgi parem
2 March 2018 01:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
SAATEKAVA
06:00 Ärka, Eesti! - Mõnusad hommikulood
09:00 Estraad - Möödunud aja menukid
11:45 Naljaga pooleks - Mõnusat lõunatundi!
13:00 Rahvalikud lood - Lõõtsad, kortsud ja kandled
15:00 Kantri - Meloodiline ja maalähedane
16:00 Folk - Pärimusmuusika
17:00 Jazzist klassikani - Jazz, operett ja klassika
18:00 Nostalgia - Hitid läbi aegade
19:00 Levi - Tartu Levimuusikapäevad '87-'89
20:00 Retro - Eesti 90ndad
21:00 Muusikavideod - Lavastatud videoklipid
21:30 Pop - Popmuusika 2000+
22:30 Rock - Rokkarid läbi aegade
23:00 Hip-Hop - Eesti sõnasepad
23:30 Hevi ja Metall - Karmid kutid ja mutid
00:30 Moos - Kõik meie videoteegis olevad lood suvalises järjekorras
06:00 Ärka, Eesti! - Mõnusad hommikulood
09:00 Estraad - Möödunud aja menukid
11:45 Naljaga pooleks - Mõnusat lõunatundi!
13:00 Rahvalikud lood - Lõõtsad, kortsud ja kandled
15:00 Kantri - Meloodiline ja maalähedane
16:00 Folk - Pärimusmuusika
17:00 Jazzist klassikani - Jazz, operett ja klassika
18:00 Nostalgia - Hitid läbi aegade
19:00 Levi - Tartu Levimuusikapäevad '87-'89
20:00 Retro - Eesti 90ndad
21:00 Muusikavideod - Lavastatud videoklipid
21:30 Pop - Popmuusika 2000+
22:30 Rock - Rokkarid läbi aegade
23:00 Hip-Hop - Eesti sõnasepad
23:30 Hevi ja Metall - Karmid kutid ja mutid
00:30 Moos - Kõik meie videoteegis olevad lood suvalises järjekorras
2 March 2018 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Väliskomision & Kultuurikomision ja muud komisionid
https://www.riigikogu.ee/tutvustus-ja-ajalugu/riigikogu-ajalugu/viii-riigikogu-koosseis/alatised-ja-erikomisjonid/
https://www.riigikogu.ee/tutvustus-ja-ajalugu/riigikogu-ajalugu/viii-riigikogu-koosseis/alatised-ja-erikomisjonid/
https://www.riigikogu.ee/tutvustus-ja-ajalugu/riigikogu-ajalugu/viii-riigikogu-koosseis/alatised-ja-erikomisjonid/
1 March 2018 23:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi millegi pärast need kes sääl pidevalt räägivad.. räägivad endiselt rohkem, kui Ülo Vooglaid... nu mis nali see on, ega tal iga päev pole ka aega kohal olla sääl, teine teie jaoks isegi lipsu ette pannud
1 March 2018 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Same time, UScoastguard:
https://www.facebook.com/UScoastguard/videos/10156189883157679/?notif_id=1519930515604096¬if_t=live_video&ref=notif
https://www.facebook.com/UScoastguard/videos/10156189883157679/?notif_id=1519930515604096¬if_t=live_video&ref=notif
1 March 2018 20:59
Margus Meigo commented on U.S. Coast Guard's live video.
White House also has meeting right now:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214374671377365
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214374671377365
1 March 2018 20:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 March 2018 20:55
Margus Meigo commented on The White House's live video.
#lsd25 #ibogaine have you looked in to treatment with these tools in natural godly setting?
1 March 2018 20:51
Margus Meigo commented on The White House's live video.
i also vote for psychdellics
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10214250142624224&set=t.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10214250142624224&set=t.1135161043&type=3&theater
1 March 2018 20:26
Margus Meigo commented on Hevely Koppel's photo.
Päris imeilus :)
1 March 2018 20:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Shortened link:
open up to see full links and pointers
http://bit.ly/Opioid_Crisis_Whitehouse
open up to see full links and pointers
http://bit.ly/Opioid_Crisis_Whitehouse
1 March 2018 20:16
Margus Meigo commented on The White House's live video.
If one will taje look linksinside it:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214374671377365
You vill see a lot of solutions, look full post links inside post
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214374671377365
You vill see a lot of solutions, look full post links inside post
1 March 2018 20:15
Margus Meigo commented on The White House's live video.
Please take look these proofs, in the links, inside post of that:
http://bit.ly/Opioid_Crisis_Whitehouse (copy to look later)
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214374671377365
http://bit.ly/Opioid_Crisis_Whitehouse (copy to look later)
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214374671377365
1 March 2018 20:14
Margus Meigo replied to Üllar Kamenik's comment.
aaa nüüd sain aru,
pikkade juhtmetega :D
pikkade juhtmetega :D
1 March 2018 19:19
Margus Meigo replied to Üllar Kamenik's comment.
selgita?
1 March 2018 19:19
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Toomas Sirge ei nu see ei puutu üldse asjasse, kas oma silmaga näinud või mitte,
Nagu ütlesin, on paljut mida enamus on nõutud uskuma ilma, et nad näinud või tundnud oleks.
Ei tasu aega raisata sellega, et eemale põigata informatsioonist, mida ise näinud oled, siis kui ise näed on juba ilmselgelt hilja kui enne pole suts mentaalselt ettevalmistanud ja kurssi viinud.
Jumal pealegi ei lase kõigil näha sest on vaja teatud usu ja kaitse hoidmiseks neid, et nad suudaks Jumalas edasi olla, suurem osa vast kukuks põlvili millise iganes üleloomuliku olendi ees kergesti.
Kuid siin mis on PÕHI asi, tuleb keskenduda sellele,
et KES räägib ja MIKS.
SELLE küsimusega tuleb tegelda ja ette vlamistuda, sest kui see oleks suur globaalne vale, siis see on võrdväärselt ohtlik, mida siis ette valmistatakse kui SELLISTEL positsioonidel inimesed, üle maa, selliseid ajsu rääkima on saadud.
Nad ju ka pereisad
ja auväärsetest seltskondadest, neid ei saa nii naljalt mida iganes valetama või uskuma panna.
Kuid jah, mõelgem siis, esmalt arusaades, mis on selle mehe Töpositsiooni ulatus, ja mida see tähendab, mis tasemel inimesed pidid sellega nõustuma, et temaga need lepingud tehti
Nagu ütlesin, on paljut mida enamus on nõutud uskuma ilma, et nad näinud või tundnud oleks.
Ei tasu aega raisata sellega, et eemale põigata informatsioonist, mida ise näinud oled, siis kui ise näed on juba ilmselgelt hilja kui enne pole suts mentaalselt ettevalmistanud ja kurssi viinud.
Jumal pealegi ei lase kõigil näha sest on vaja teatud usu ja kaitse hoidmiseks neid, et nad suudaks Jumalas edasi olla, suurem osa vast kukuks põlvili millise iganes üleloomuliku olendi ees kergesti.
Kuid siin mis on PÕHI asi, tuleb keskenduda sellele,
et KES räägib ja MIKS.
SELLE küsimusega tuleb tegelda ja ette vlamistuda, sest kui see oleks suur globaalne vale, siis see on võrdväärselt ohtlik, mida siis ette valmistatakse kui SELLISTEL positsioonidel inimesed, üle maa, selliseid ajsu rääkima on saadud.
Nad ju ka pereisad
ja auväärsetest seltskondadest, neid ei saa nii naljalt mida iganes valetama või uskuma panna.
Kuid jah, mõelgem siis, esmalt arusaades, mis on selle mehe Töpositsiooni ulatus, ja mida see tähendab, mis tasemel inimesed pidid sellega nõustuma, et temaga need lepingud tehti
1 March 2018 19:18
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
ma usun, et ..
see ikka tõsine tehnoloogia inimkonna reaalsusest eemal hoidmiseks
see ikka tõsine tehnoloogia inimkonna reaalsusest eemal hoidmiseks
1 March 2018 19:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Üllar Kamenik mis Sa selle Naise-vägistaja Odini-tulnarite asjast muidu rääkisid ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindr
1 March 2018 18:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// not important, this post
1 March 2018 16:17
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Metsallik's photo.
Naturaalsed pildid enamasti alati kõigeparemad : )
Väga hea pilt!
Väga hea pilt!
1 March 2018 15:34
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Metsallik's post.
Õnnelikud need keda jõudsid vastu võtta : )
Tean mida Sa tunned, ma pole isegi mitte kuulus ja isegi muretsen, miks ainult selline kogus...
Tean mida Sa tunned, ma pole isegi mitte kuulus ja isegi muretsen, miks ainult selline kogus...
1 March 2018 15:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but for now we can still make business
1 March 2018 09:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but yea, was nothing to harsh in mind, just realization,
as i am already now mostly forgotten,
merkel will be remembered, as old good book,
Gerge's will be remembered,
but so glasshing can be the effect in humans mind, that after few elections they not even talk to much about it,
also mostly it is just because the // .. //
as i am already now mostly forgotten,
merkel will be remembered, as old good book,
Gerge's will be remembered,
but so glasshing can be the effect in humans mind, that after few elections they not even talk to much about it,
also mostly it is just because the // .. //
1 March 2018 09:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_personification
Korea ( North Korea and South Korea) Dangun, Ungnyeo, Korean Tiger, Yangban, Chollima
Korea ( North Korea and South Korea) Dangun, Ungnyeo, Korean Tiger, Yangban, Chollima
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_personification
1 March 2018 08:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eriti veel arvetsades, et KOrea ennast ide, manisfisteerib, kui Nais hingena,
Nagu Euroopa on Naissoost, aga seda vist vähesed teavad,
Aga nende hinges, et Nad naissoost see suuresti sees
Nagu Euroopa on Naissoost, aga seda vist vähesed teavad,
Aga nende hinges, et Nad naissoost see suuresti sees
1 March 2018 08:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nad oleks pidanud sinna inimese mitte poliitiku ja diplomaadi rääkima saata, või mõne muu agenda all vangis olev muidu isiklikus elus ehk väärtused korras olev, kuid neid kartev väljaöelda mees,
sest jaapnlased VÄGA Nais austus kultuur peaks olema, miks SELLISES olukorras mees nende SELLIST teemat vastama pandud ??
sest jaapnlased VÄGA Nais austus kultuur peaks olema, miks SELLISES olukorras mees nende SELLIST teemat vastama pandud ??
1 March 2018 08:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
väga emotsioonikalt mõelmad keelt väljendavad.
Kuid kas ikka peaks see õle maa tuntud keel ka kõigile viipekeele inimestele põhilisena teada oelma ja siis oma kultuuri nüandsid juurde kui tarvis, kultuuripõhilised väljnedused, mida muult maalt olev ei pruugi kunagi vajadagi,
näiteks kaameli saduldamine vms
kuid liha, mingid ained ja elektroonika, väärtused ning tarkused peaksid enamasti ühtselt arusaadavad olema
Kuid kas ikka peaks see õle maa tuntud keel ka kõigile viipekeele inimestele põhilisena teada oelma ja siis oma kultuuri nüandsid juurde kui tarvis, kultuuripõhilised väljnedused, mida muult maalt olev ei pruugi kunagi vajadagi,
näiteks kaameli saduldamine vms
kuid liha, mingid ained ja elektroonika, väärtused ning tarkused peaksid enamasti ühtselt arusaadavad olema
1 March 2018 08:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Viipekeele naine on ka väga vahva!
1 March 2018 08:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja mis nartsud need on sääl hommiku TV kanalil, riigi telvisoonis, ja ebamäärane tapeedist lahjem arvuti kujutis
1 March 2018 07:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mängigu kuskil väikses baari nurgas või kodus sõpradega, aga telekasse lasta, nu
ja aina targemaks, Eesti Lulus ka osaleb, et samas saates kus La Froze
.. kohatäiteks ei ole sobilik kedai panna, tehke parem dokumentaali selle aja täiteks, et sisu tugevneks, mitte demokraatia
ja aina targemaks, Eesti Lulus ka osaleb, et samas saates kus La Froze
.. kohatäiteks ei ole sobilik kedai panna, tehke parem dokumentaali selle aja täiteks, et sisu tugevneks, mitte demokraatia
1 March 2018 07:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ega see mingi meelelahutusprogramm pole, see hommikuprogramm
1 March 2018 07:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja siis paneva dmingi akõrva aukudeg atüübi inisema ja habe
mõnitama
tinistavad kidraga,
neoonruutude saatel
et just ajust ärakaoks oluline mis rääägiti v?
// mingi suurte nende inda venitatud kõrvadega ja inisedes minig kidraga tinistmaise laul kus arusaamatu miks kahte inimest vaja läheb selle asja esitamiseks
mõnitama
tinistavad kidraga,
neoonruutude saatel
et just ajust ärakaoks oluline mis rääägiti v?
// mingi suurte nende inda venitatud kõrvadega ja inisedes minig kidraga tinistmaise laul kus arusaamatu miks kahte inimest vaja läheb selle asja esitamiseks
1 March 2018 07:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muuseas mainis ära kuida sriigi ja omavalituste vahel ei toimu enam suhtlust,
kui poleks vallutaud riik siis oleks suhtlus sujuv ja täishoomav.
Meeletu võimekusega naine tarkuse osas on see Naine kui ta alles jääb
kui poleks vallutaud riik siis oleks suhtlus sujuv ja täishoomav.
Meeletu võimekusega naine tarkuse osas on see Naine kui ta alles jääb
1 March 2018 07:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ratas on müravaba liiklusvahend
1 March 2018 07:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Trump Can You really know what family is, look how strange you are around Your children ,
This destruction you background can cause to USA shall not happen, worry not, as we assume you do got heart, () all that
(happenings with positions, whitoup behavioral screening) should rise human behavioral requirements, from now on,
so in the end it can be as women once told before voting: G has choosen this man for Creat work, ...she jet carefully respected way from true religious sense try to tell once more "g can use any kind of strange human for unexpected changes as way's of g are so large and high on levels to set us righ"
well, not literally, but this got him elected basically
This destruction you background can cause to USA shall not happen, worry not, as we assume you do got heart, () all that
(happenings with positions, whitoup behavioral screening) should rise human behavioral requirements, from now on,
so in the end it can be as women once told before voting: G has choosen this man for Creat work, ...she jet carefully respected way from true religious sense try to tell once more "g can use any kind of strange human for unexpected changes as way's of g are so large and high on levels to set us righ"
well, not literally, but this got him elected basically
1 March 2018 07:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But Daughter just might grow apart from him, they are still, after all from a woman
1 March 2018 07:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Are you, George, more with worth family then this city man politician?
Besides, he is a commies version of democrat, it is a fact, look it up, google it : he was besides hes life stile also member of democratic forces openly few years
Besides, he is a commies version of democrat, it is a fact, look it up, google it : he was besides hes life stile also member of democratic forces openly few years
1 March 2018 07:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But George really is sharper then You. many ways i see it to be, he is more near Royal
1 March 2018 07:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eagles have round eyes
1 March 2018 07:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
are You Chinese or something Aspek?
No, then stop imitating onesoldier
No, then stop imitating onesoldier
1 March 2018 07:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 March 2018 07:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1 March 2018 07:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 March 2018 07:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
final ..it it self looks strange....complicated in big land... if local arias would be smaller, then, investigation would be sharper and .... what is other city business to much..
1 March 2018 06:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
can you imagine, to get just some corner shoots of Hollywood movie,
how well will it sale..
but final agreed plan and action mis ..
how well will it sale..
but final agreed plan and action mis ..
1 March 2018 06:55
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
more interesting would be final product
1 March 2018 06:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kuidas on üldse võimalik, et meestel pole võimu pahaloomulisus ühiskonnast väljatõrjuda, kui üldse vägivalda plaanis kasutada on siiis ainult alguses, kurjuse taltsutamiseks,
sellised on kes oma patuga mitte piisavat reaktsiiooni saamiseks kallale mitme nurga alt tuleb ja siis ikka kirjutab, et kahju, et lahkumiskotid kuurialt viidud on ära, ise pikalt eirates vestlust, kuid see on eestis uus norm, ka siis kui kirjaoskajatel midagi ilusat igapäevalist vanale tuttavale või uuele tuttavale tuttvuse suurendamise eesmärgil...//
sellised on kes oma patuga mitte piisavat reaktsiiooni saamiseks kallale mitme nurga alt tuleb ja siis ikka kirjutab, et kahju, et lahkumiskotid kuurialt viidud on ära, ise pikalt eirates vestlust, kuid see on eestis uus norm, ka siis kui kirjaoskajatel midagi ilusat igapäevalist vanale tuttavale või uuele tuttavale tuttvuse suurendamise eesmärgil...//
1 March 2018 06:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
või samas mis jätkame suhtlematust ja muid teemasi töö juures nagunii sügavalt ei hakka arutama, inimesed omavahel inimeste asja..... linnas aga nagu eraasi oleks elu..... nu elagu siis erakuna mitte koige inimtihedamas kohas tööl
1 March 2018 06:25
Margus Meigo replied to Lilika Ly's comment.
sellisel tasemel arengupuudega täiskasvanud ,eks kujutavad ette, et laste mängud ja maailm koosneb minigte võlts asjade väljamõtlemisest
see ajab nii marru, et kohe raske väljendada ennast,
Nähes kui mitmel tasemel selle tagajärjed on..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe4EK4HSPkI
see ajab nii marru, et kohe raske väljendada ennast,
Nähes kui mitmel tasemel selle tagajärjed on..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe4EK4HSPkI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe4EK4HSPkI
1 March 2018 03:57
Margus Meigo replied to Lilika Ly's comment.
ei nu eks ma palju retoorilisi küsimusi küsin, see on tegelikult ikka selleks, et esiteks ollakse alaarenenud mõistmaks mida vaja on lastele, polda ise arenenud ega täiskasvanuks saadud, et üldse väärilist juttu mõistaks lastega rääkida,
kuid seda lastakse teha ja suunitletakse nende poolt kes tegelvad lapsepõlve likivdeerimisega, nad esiteks pannes vanemate osas skeptisismi varakult tundma ja teiseks õppima võltsilikust ja ebaaustust. Senikaua kui see aitab lagundada lapsepõlve ja nende kooshoidmise võimet seni teenib see suurelt paljusi erinevaid pahasi jõude.
Ja siis meie telejaamade poolt lastakse see läbi hooletusest ja loovuse puudusest, sest Jumala asemel mingite muudele jõududele julgetakse alluda.
Ja veel palju muid lihtsaid selgitusi võttes arvesse, et kes neid asju pidid enne nägema kes läbi lasid ja kes need iniemsed kes selliste arusaamadega sellistele positsioonidele lasti, et nad neid asju selliselt said läbi vaadata ja heaks kiita.
Õnneks Getter käis laulmas ja tõi vaimsust , ilu ja reaalsust lastele... kuid see mida need mehed mängima pannakse.. see on nii.. ma eriti pahade asjade juurde ei hakand jutua minemagi mille järgi see varjund kuva ennast näib olema...
Kuid suures plaanis jah, laste lollitmine.
Sest puudub reaalne arusaam ja austus
kuid seda lastakse teha ja suunitletakse nende poolt kes tegelvad lapsepõlve likivdeerimisega, nad esiteks pannes vanemate osas skeptisismi varakult tundma ja teiseks õppima võltsilikust ja ebaaustust. Senikaua kui see aitab lagundada lapsepõlve ja nende kooshoidmise võimet seni teenib see suurelt paljusi erinevaid pahasi jõude.
Ja siis meie telejaamade poolt lastakse see läbi hooletusest ja loovuse puudusest, sest Jumala asemel mingite muudele jõududele julgetakse alluda.
Ja veel palju muid lihtsaid selgitusi võttes arvesse, et kes neid asju pidid enne nägema kes läbi lasid ja kes need iniemsed kes selliste arusaamadega sellistele positsioonidele lasti, et nad neid asju selliselt said läbi vaadata ja heaks kiita.
Õnneks Getter käis laulmas ja tõi vaimsust , ilu ja reaalsust lastele... kuid see mida need mehed mängima pannakse.. see on nii.. ma eriti pahade asjade juurde ei hakand jutua minemagi mille järgi see varjund kuva ennast näib olema...
Kuid suures plaanis jah, laste lollitmine.
Sest puudub reaalne arusaam ja austus
1 March 2018 03:54
Margus Meigo commented on Emmanuel Manalo's post.
Same for me in in Mayan astrology
1 March 2018 03:12
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
ega eriti ei saa ka kuid jah, see viiman eplaan oli selle abileu postitusega seotud hmm
1 March 2018 02:25
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
minuarust see kas keegi näinud pole küll kriteerium ainukesena, et adekvaatsust tõestada,
omasilmis ma Loojaga ka rohkem kui korra kohtunud (nii ta aias kui ta loodud ruumis), see eip tee mind eksperdiks, ega anna mulle adekvaatsust ei kellegi silmis juurde,
pigem vastupidi, isegi enamuste usklike endi silmas
ja pealegi, ega kohtumisega ei ole ma kindel... kas tänu sellele on teistmoodi...see umbes nagu tead, et on mets , käid kohal, ongi mets.. ja siis sisemist usku küll tugevdab kuid mida see päriselt muutnud on mõtlemises või teadmistes, tegemistes... kogu elu nagunii jumalatöös, kõiges mis teen, mis sinna veel lisada...naine
aga jumal näitas seda naist kes ise ei soovi ennast..seega ei saa palvetada ja soovida seda naist siis läheks see vastuollu ju naise vabatahtega..nmitte, et vabatahe oleks see mida kiidaksin...
nu ja.. hmmm.. tuligi enne mote ja plaan ..ja jumal pole testimiseks, kuid see polegi test..proovimiseks ka pole... nu näed.. ise Vanaga kokku saanud ja oma sõbraks pean aga palvetada "nõuda/soovida" midagi rohkemat kui se emis juba antud, seda eip juge... ei ole usku ega teadmist sellist mis ütleks kas see lubatud või vaja on..sellele lisaks soovida mis on...ja see mis on,..seni kaustan nii kuis saan..
omasilmis ma Loojaga ka rohkem kui korra kohtunud (nii ta aias kui ta loodud ruumis), see eip tee mind eksperdiks, ega anna mulle adekvaatsust ei kellegi silmis juurde,
pigem vastupidi, isegi enamuste usklike endi silmas
ja pealegi, ega kohtumisega ei ole ma kindel... kas tänu sellele on teistmoodi...see umbes nagu tead, et on mets , käid kohal, ongi mets.. ja siis sisemist usku küll tugevdab kuid mida see päriselt muutnud on mõtlemises või teadmistes, tegemistes... kogu elu nagunii jumalatöös, kõiges mis teen, mis sinna veel lisada...naine
aga jumal näitas seda naist kes ise ei soovi ennast..seega ei saa palvetada ja soovida seda naist siis läheks see vastuollu ju naise vabatahtega..nmitte, et vabatahe oleks see mida kiidaksin...
nu ja.. hmmm.. tuligi enne mote ja plaan ..ja jumal pole testimiseks, kuid see polegi test..proovimiseks ka pole... nu näed.. ise Vanaga kokku saanud ja oma sõbraks pean aga palvetada "nõuda/soovida" midagi rohkemat kui se emis juba antud, seda eip juge... ei ole usku ega teadmist sellist mis ütleks kas see lubatud või vaja on..sellele lisaks soovida mis on...ja see mis on,..seni kaustan nii kuis saan..
1 March 2018 02:25
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Toomas Sirge kas muidu tead veel nimetada paljusi asju, millest saab arutada aga mida pole oma silmaga näinud, muud kui see mis kirjutataud ja mis näib sellepõhjal mis räägitud-kuuldud-arusaadud+
1 March 2018 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Summing Up
The above is but a taste of the breadth and depth of what John Kettler Investigates has covered, covers and will cover. This is why this site is read avidly–or by order–in lots of known and unknown places and groups (alphabet soup agencies, for example) here, at the Pentagon, at the White House and in foreign capitals such as London, Tel Aviv and Moscow. The CIA has, because the information here at JKI's often way over the clearance level of its already highly cleared personnel, blocked most of the Agency computers at Langley. Security officers go nuts trying to figure out how JKI gets the precise deep black information that makes them incontinent on the spot. And it keeps happening! It keeps happening because there are truly gutsy people who value truth; who take, in deadly earnest, theirs oaths to “protect and defend the Constitution” and whose loyalty is to the American people, rather than those who deliberately foment war for power and profit and use Silent (not silenced) Weapons against us."
deliberately foment war for power and profit: http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
Silent (not silenced) Weapons: http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/sw4qw/index.shtml
"This site is absolutely, positively the worst place to be for those who believe that what they see; what they are told–is real and true–and are not prepared to change their perceptions. This is a place where the curious, the Standard Model challengers, the risk takers will find a home and enormous mental stimulation. This is a multidisciplinary site which is devoted to the truth–however scary, mind-shattering or horrible it may be. This is a place of controversy, heated debates and strongly defended views. A fair number of readers have gone and continue to go toe-to-toe with John Kettler himself! This is a place where contrived memes and propaganda lines are exposed to merciless light; where what governments, organizations and individuals have tried to keep from us is laid bare. Where over and over again the clarion call rings through the very heavens–“WAKE UP!!!”"
The above is but a taste of the breadth and depth of what John Kettler Investigates has covered, covers and will cover. This is why this site is read avidly–or by order–in lots of known and unknown places and groups (alphabet soup agencies, for example) here, at the Pentagon, at the White House and in foreign capitals such as London, Tel Aviv and Moscow. The CIA has, because the information here at JKI's often way over the clearance level of its already highly cleared personnel, blocked most of the Agency computers at Langley. Security officers go nuts trying to figure out how JKI gets the precise deep black information that makes them incontinent on the spot. And it keeps happening! It keeps happening because there are truly gutsy people who value truth; who take, in deadly earnest, theirs oaths to “protect and defend the Constitution” and whose loyalty is to the American people, rather than those who deliberately foment war for power and profit and use Silent (not silenced) Weapons against us."
deliberately foment war for power and profit: http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
Silent (not silenced) Weapons: http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/sw4qw/index.shtml
"This site is absolutely, positively the worst place to be for those who believe that what they see; what they are told–is real and true–and are not prepared to change their perceptions. This is a place where the curious, the Standard Model challengers, the risk takers will find a home and enormous mental stimulation. This is a multidisciplinary site which is devoted to the truth–however scary, mind-shattering or horrible it may be. This is a place of controversy, heated debates and strongly defended views. A fair number of readers have gone and continue to go toe-to-toe with John Kettler himself! This is a place where contrived memes and propaganda lines are exposed to merciless light; where what governments, organizations and individuals have tried to keep from us is laid bare. Where over and over again the clarion call rings through the very heavens–“WAKE UP!!!”"
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
1 March 2018 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Someone who apparently encountered it and lived to tell the tale.
http://natgeotv.com/za/beast-man/videos/encounter
Recently, John Kettler Investigates has begun taking apart the almost fatally limited coverage in the mainstream media of events in Ukraine and Iraq–including what really happened to Flight 17 and the Russian Army's presence in Ukraine–making more enemies in the process. And just yesterday and today, John Kettler took a searching look at the ISIS situation–including an exclusive disclosure of a “didn't happen” joint US/UK commando raid into Syria to retrieve US journalist Steven Joel Sotloff–so he could keep his head if the US kept bombing ISIS in Iraq. If you want the stories before they break, read John Kettler Investigates!
Buk M1/SA-11 GADFLY SAM of the type which shot down Flight 17. The US has ironclad evidence this is the case, and John Kettler Investigates has thoroughly examined the specifics. Expect to see material far beyond what it's already published."
Ukraine: https://johnkettler.com/ukraine-invasion-2nd-buk-m1-sa-11s-flight-17/
iraq; https://johnkettler.com/isis-isil-blasted-beheaded/
exclusive disclosure of a “didn't happen” joint US/UK commando raid into Syria:
https://johnkettler.com/isis-smacked-down-in-syria/
Buk M1/SA-11 GADFLY SAM of the type which shot down Flight 17.:
https://johnkettler.com/flight-17-downing-proof-putins-responsible/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSXMhaFntrU
http://natgeotv.com/za/beast-man/videos/encounter
Recently, John Kettler Investigates has begun taking apart the almost fatally limited coverage in the mainstream media of events in Ukraine and Iraq–including what really happened to Flight 17 and the Russian Army's presence in Ukraine–making more enemies in the process. And just yesterday and today, John Kettler took a searching look at the ISIS situation–including an exclusive disclosure of a “didn't happen” joint US/UK commando raid into Syria to retrieve US journalist Steven Joel Sotloff–so he could keep his head if the US kept bombing ISIS in Iraq. If you want the stories before they break, read John Kettler Investigates!
Buk M1/SA-11 GADFLY SAM of the type which shot down Flight 17. The US has ironclad evidence this is the case, and John Kettler Investigates has thoroughly examined the specifics. Expect to see material far beyond what it's already published."
Ukraine: https://johnkettler.com/ukraine-invasion-2nd-buk-m1-sa-11s-flight-17/
iraq; https://johnkettler.com/isis-isil-blasted-beheaded/
exclusive disclosure of a “didn't happen” joint US/UK commando raid into Syria:
https://johnkettler.com/isis-smacked-down-in-syria/
Buk M1/SA-11 GADFLY SAM of the type which shot down Flight 17.:
https://johnkettler.com/flight-17-downing-proof-putins-responsible/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSXMhaFntrU
http://natgeotv.com/za/beast-man/videos/encounter
1 March 2018 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"And who could forget the cryptids–Bigfoot (for which we now have DNA results which will astound), Nessie, Mothman, mokele-mbembe, Thunderbird, the Loveland Frog, chupacabras and more–including whatever monster (not kidding) made this?! How about pterodactyls? Dragons? What would you do if you crossed paths with the critter in the second photo here? Lots of other things have needed his attention, but John Kettler is quite interested in those things covered under the rubric “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”
Bigfoot is now known, from expertly conducted DNA tests on a variety of samples (hair, flesh, feces, blood), to be a primate-human hybrid."
cryptids–Bigfoot : http://www.narcel-anomalies.org/BIGFOOT-PHOTOS-2.html
we now have DNA results which will astound: http://www.narcel-anomalies.org/BIGFOOT-DNA.html
Thunderbird,: http://www.anomaly-doctor.org/THUNDERBIRDS.html
Loveland Frog: http://www.scaryforkids.com/loveland/
chupacabras : http://www.narcel-anomalies.org/CHUPACABRAS.html
http://www.narcel-anomalies.org/VARIOUS-MONSTERS-3.html
pterodactyls: http://www.narcel-anomalies.org/LIVING-DINOSAURS-.html
Dragons: http://www.narcel-anomalies.org/THERE-BE-DRAGONS-.html
http://www.narcel-anomalies.org/VARIOUS-MONSTERS-2.html
“There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”: http://www.shakespeare-online.com/quickquotes/quickquotehamletdreamt.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKUwdHex1Zs
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"Bigfoot screams have been analyzed by a former Navy linguist who has stated Bigfoot screams, recorded all over the country, are a formal language, not mere vocalizations. The implications of this are obvious."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTsdbKUwenI
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!Mokele-mbembe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCMQbxNG_xk
Bigfoot is now known, from expertly conducted DNA tests on a variety of samples (hair, flesh, feces, blood), to be a primate-human hybrid."
cryptids–Bigfoot : http://www.narcel-anomalies.org/BIGFOOT-PHOTOS-2.html
we now have DNA results which will astound: http://www.narcel-anomalies.org/BIGFOOT-DNA.html
Thunderbird,: http://www.anomaly-doctor.org/THUNDERBIRDS.html
Loveland Frog: http://www.scaryforkids.com/loveland/
chupacabras : http://www.narcel-anomalies.org/CHUPACABRAS.html
http://www.narcel-anomalies.org/VARIOUS-MONSTERS-3.html
pterodactyls: http://www.narcel-anomalies.org/LIVING-DINOSAURS-.html
Dragons: http://www.narcel-anomalies.org/THERE-BE-DRAGONS-.html
http://www.narcel-anomalies.org/VARIOUS-MONSTERS-2.html
“There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”: http://www.shakespeare-online.com/quickquotes/quickquotehamletdreamt.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKUwdHex1Zs
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"Bigfoot screams have been analyzed by a former Navy linguist who has stated Bigfoot screams, recorded all over the country, are a formal language, not mere vocalizations. The implications of this are obvious."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTsdbKUwenI
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!Mokele-mbembe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCMQbxNG_xk
1 March 2018 02:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Secret history and suppressed science and technology keep entire publishers going, and the Web reflects this interest. An uninformed populace, as noted above, is an exploitable populace unable to make intelligent decisions. We Americans are, both relative to Europe and absolutely in terms of our overall level of societal awareness, dazzlingly ignorant of the true history of the country and of the world. Bluntly put, it bears vanishingly little resemblance to what we've been taught was the truth. Be it the history of the founding and expansion of the nation, the true nature and size of some of the inhabitants (giants, hundreds of whose skeletons the Smithsonian has made vanish) or even which Europeans got here first and when. and that pales when compared to the official archaeological view that the Clovis culture dated back only 20,000 years when no less than five different tests conclusively showed the real number was around 250,000-350,000 years! Nah, no secret history here. Did you know this country is still living off the wholesale looting at the end of World War II of Germany's Patent Office? Did you know the Nazi A-Bomb program, deemed a joke in the standard histories, was real; that several were made and tested and that two were detonated in combat? This site fully outed the use by SS General Kammler, of a German prototype A-Bomb, at Kursk, Russia in July of 1943–causing the then Director of Central Intelligence to start screaming when John Kettler Investigates broke the story and thereafter ran with it. Few realize what really happened; what was really created, used and flown during the war. Consequently, it's impossible to understand where the technology is now and what is possible."
history of the founding and expansion of the nation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_People's_History_of_the_United_States
(giants, hundreds of whose skeletons the Smithsonian has made vanish): http://www.sott.net/article/281093-The-truth-about-giant-skeletons-in-American-Indian-mounds-and-the-Smithsonian-cover-up
which Europeans got here first and when.: http://tidewaterhistorian.blogspot.com/2009/09/knights-templar-and-holy-grail-in.html
the real number was around 250,000-350,000 years!: http://www.s8int.com/hueyatlaco.html
Director of Central Intelligence to start screaming: https://johnkettler.com/nazi-a-bomb-dci-jki-oh-my/
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"Documentary investigating information encoded in Knights Templar sites in America. The Knights Templar structures were here before Columbus arrived"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER9g_L9EQRc
"When it comes to encoding information in monuments, called, by him, archaeocryptography, here is the man–Carl Munck. His theory is so elegant it even allows us to find the locations of ancient monuments which have been obliterated. How? Their locations are built right into the structures of other sites!"
http://www.pyramidmatrix.com/nazca_lines.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw9lTB0hTNU
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history of the founding and expansion of the nation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_People's_History_of_the_United_States
(giants, hundreds of whose skeletons the Smithsonian has made vanish): http://www.sott.net/article/281093-The-truth-about-giant-skeletons-in-American-Indian-mounds-and-the-Smithsonian-cover-up
which Europeans got here first and when.: http://tidewaterhistorian.blogspot.com/2009/09/knights-templar-and-holy-grail-in.html
the real number was around 250,000-350,000 years!: http://www.s8int.com/hueyatlaco.html
Director of Central Intelligence to start screaming: https://johnkettler.com/nazi-a-bomb-dci-jki-oh-my/
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"Documentary investigating information encoded in Knights Templar sites in America. The Knights Templar structures were here before Columbus arrived"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER9g_L9EQRc
"When it comes to encoding information in monuments, called, by him, archaeocryptography, here is the man–Carl Munck. His theory is so elegant it even allows us to find the locations of ancient monuments which have been obliterated. How? Their locations are built right into the structures of other sites!"
http://www.pyramidmatrix.com/nazca_lines.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw9lTB0hTNU
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_People's_History_of_the_United_States
1 March 2018 02:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Here, John Kettler brings a lifetime of studies in military history, military thought, weapon technology, espionage and covert ops to the table, having grown up as the son of a cutting edge defense engineer and been around TOP SECRET CODEWORD programs, not to mention over eleven years as a crack military analyst (in-house expert on Soviet and Warsaw Pact militaries) for two top defense contractors, Hughes (now Raytheon) and Rockwell (now Boeing), during which he worked on a string of missile programs (AMRAAM, Maverick, Phoenix, etc.) guided bombs, air defense, B-1B strategic bombers, AC-130U gunship, Stealth,DEW (Directed Energy Weapons), antisatellite weapons and more, culminating in the military versions of the NASP (National AeroSpace Plane).
X-30 NASP was the basis for a range of planned hypersonic vehicles–endoatmospheric, exoatmospheric and both. Other than saying there were military applications for the NASP, everything else was classified. John Kettler was one-half of a two-man Threat Analysis team geared toward identifying and countering NASP threats from the ground to on-orbit."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUbHaPZqIxk
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"AC-130U Spectre is the best friend troops in contact can have. Rockwell defined the sensors and armament. John was part of a two-man team which defined the threat environment for the heavily armed aircraft. So good was the work that he and his colleague were told that,had the customer validated it, it would've exceeded program classification!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzvmQMtv18g
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"AIM-54 Phoenix was developed to defend the Fleet. In its time it was peerless. John Kettler helped perform numerous Fleet Air Defense analyses and was the go-to threat person who kept track of Russian advances as they affected the Phoenix missile program."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzPvaxTBkck
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He almost became a field spook for the CIA (could say who interviewed him, but it's a federal offense), and twice was nearly recruited by Army Foreign Science & Technology Center (aborted because of budget freezes there). Because he knows his stuff, John Kettler Investigates has been blessed with sources and deep truth the likes of which even CNN's Pentagon correspondent can't begin to imagine. And those shocking revelations wouldn't be permitted to air. Exclusive stories, rich in insider detail, of “things that never happened” frequently grace these pages. Both the highly sensitive, not-for-attribution sources and John Kettler are at grave risk because of this, and there have been death threats. People have been gruesomely killed, both principals and loved ones, for making such bombshell disclosures! Those super brave, patriotic sources and John Kettler emphatically agree: the people of this nation and, by extension, the world, have a right to know what's really going on, what it means and why. Sometimes, the who emerges as well.
In any event, John Kettler and this site embody these wonderful Thomas Jefferson quotes. Isn't it time we took back control of the careening Ship of State?!
Federa offence: http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/laws/iipa.html
Army Foreign Science & Technology Center: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Foreign_Science_and_Technology_Center
shocking revelations wouldn't be permitted to air: https://johnkettler.com/censorship-why-etseds-never-make-news/
“things that never happened”: https://johnkettler.com/isis-smacked-down-in-syria/
People have been gruesomely killed, both principals and loved ones: https://johnkettler.com/urgent-warning/
“I know no safe depositary of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power.” –Thomas Jefferson to William C. Jarvis, 1820. ME 15:278
“Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves, therefore, are its only safe depositories. And to render even them safe, their minds must be improved to a certain degree.” –Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XIV, 1782. ME 2:207
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X-30 NASP was the basis for a range of planned hypersonic vehicles–endoatmospheric, exoatmospheric and both. Other than saying there were military applications for the NASP, everything else was classified. John Kettler was one-half of a two-man Threat Analysis team geared toward identifying and countering NASP threats from the ground to on-orbit."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUbHaPZqIxk
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"AC-130U Spectre is the best friend troops in contact can have. Rockwell defined the sensors and armament. John was part of a two-man team which defined the threat environment for the heavily armed aircraft. So good was the work that he and his colleague were told that,had the customer validated it, it would've exceeded program classification!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzvmQMtv18g
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"AIM-54 Phoenix was developed to defend the Fleet. In its time it was peerless. John Kettler helped perform numerous Fleet Air Defense analyses and was the go-to threat person who kept track of Russian advances as they affected the Phoenix missile program."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzPvaxTBkck
--
He almost became a field spook for the CIA (could say who interviewed him, but it's a federal offense), and twice was nearly recruited by Army Foreign Science & Technology Center (aborted because of budget freezes there). Because he knows his stuff, John Kettler Investigates has been blessed with sources and deep truth the likes of which even CNN's Pentagon correspondent can't begin to imagine. And those shocking revelations wouldn't be permitted to air. Exclusive stories, rich in insider detail, of “things that never happened” frequently grace these pages. Both the highly sensitive, not-for-attribution sources and John Kettler are at grave risk because of this, and there have been death threats. People have been gruesomely killed, both principals and loved ones, for making such bombshell disclosures! Those super brave, patriotic sources and John Kettler emphatically agree: the people of this nation and, by extension, the world, have a right to know what's really going on, what it means and why. Sometimes, the who emerges as well.
In any event, John Kettler and this site embody these wonderful Thomas Jefferson quotes. Isn't it time we took back control of the careening Ship of State?!
Federa offence: http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/laws/iipa.html
Army Foreign Science & Technology Center: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Foreign_Science_and_Technology_Center
shocking revelations wouldn't be permitted to air: https://johnkettler.com/censorship-why-etseds-never-make-news/
“things that never happened”: https://johnkettler.com/isis-smacked-down-in-syria/
People have been gruesomely killed, both principals and loved ones: https://johnkettler.com/urgent-warning/
“I know no safe depositary of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power.” –Thomas Jefferson to William C. Jarvis, 1820. ME 15:278
“Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves, therefore, are its only safe depositories. And to render even them safe, their minds must be improved to a certain degree.” –Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XIV, 1782. ME 2:207
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUbHaPZqIxk
1 March 2018 02:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Then, there are the people acutely interested in bleeding edge military aerospace developments, black programs and covert operations. John Kettler Investigates has published considerably in these areas. Whether it be the fruits of US overhead reconnaissance, craft that don't exist, ops that never were, boots on the ground or invisible soldiers (a la “Predator”), this site is all over it.
Invisible Soldier. Watch starting at 2:00. Not responsible for sanity loss."
https://johnkettler.com/north-korea-why-kim-jong-un-blinked/
https://johnkettler.com/black-programs-what-you-dont-know/
https://johnkettler.com/seal-team-six-bin-laden-movie-censorship-1/
"Aurora. It has an SR designation (Strike/Reconnaissance), but it's so classified even John Kettler Investigates hasn't been told."
"The TR-3B is not only real, but the site has published details of a family of such aerospace craft,but of varying sizes. The lineal descendant, Edgar Fouche, of a great French spymaster reports on what he knows about the TR-3B–via six people in black programs."
http://www.darkgovernment.com/news/tr-3b/
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_extraterrestrialtech07.htm
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"And if you want a real covert operation, how about stealing 200 Davy Crockett tactical nuclear weapons from the US, together with ~15 Jupiter MRBMs (Medium Range Ballistic Missiles) from your great ally the United States. Now, upgrade the 100 ton yield warheads to 7 KT kilotons–half the yield of the Hiroshima A-Bomb and build some as deep penetrating bunker busters? Illegally test several enhanced Davy Crocketts in the Negev Desert, modify the guidance on the Jupiters and nuke Syria, including one A-Bomb attack via F-15E Strike Eagle. Not only did the perfidious Israelis do all these things, but because Syria wasn't about to admit any of it, Israel certainly wasn't talking and the US, having been had in every sense of the expression, was very much involved in suppressing even the dead giveaway seismic records, Israel got away with it! How's that for an exclusive?!"
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"For the record, John Kettler personally knew and consulted for an Operation Paperclip scientist named Dr. Hans Mauer. He was the Chief Technology Officer at Hughes Aircraft's Missile Systems Group, where Mr. Kettler worked. Additionally, John knew innocent people whose lives were upended because of the infamous Falcon and the Snowman case at TRW. One such was a woman who honchoed a black satellite program there–receiving successive funding increments of $100K in a shoebox placed in her mailbox! During his Hughes and Rockwell days, he got to listen to and meet FBI Counterintelligence Agent (real spycatcher) David Majors and handle one of the most iconic pieces of spy gear ever. He worked with former (and not exactly former) personnel, operators and analysts from CIA, Agency proprietary Air America, DIA, NSA, Air Force Intelligence and more. After leaving military aerospace in mid 1989, Mr. Kettler found himself in the remarkable situation of being in the same room with KGB officers about whom he had once held classified files! This was in a panel discussion with their former US opponents. On a different occasion, he was greatly fortunate to be able to attend a gathering in which the former Undersecretary General of the United Nations (CIA agent in place while in that job) and highest ranking Soviet defector ever, Arkady Shevchenko spoke. John Kettler got to meet him and managed to get his copy of Shevchenko's book autographed. Shevchenko had used the tradecraft goodies and techniques that are the stuff of spy novels and films."
Falcon and the Snowman : http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists_spies/spies/boyce_lee/1.html
http://www.spybusters.com/Great_Seal_Bug.html
Arkady Shevchenko : http://www.nytimes.com/1998/03/11/us/arkady-n-shevchenko-67-a-key-soviet-defector-dies.html
"That brilliant bug in the Great Seal story linked to above was created by this man, Leon Theremin. You may not know his name, but you almost certainly know the music from the instrument he created."
"Some of the sorts of things Mr. Kettler was exposed to from practically when he could read. How many other kids understood microdots while in elementary school?"
Invisible Soldier. Watch starting at 2:00. Not responsible for sanity loss."
https://johnkettler.com/north-korea-why-kim-jong-un-blinked/
https://johnkettler.com/black-programs-what-you-dont-know/
https://johnkettler.com/seal-team-six-bin-laden-movie-censorship-1/
"Aurora. It has an SR designation (Strike/Reconnaissance), but it's so classified even John Kettler Investigates hasn't been told."
"The TR-3B is not only real, but the site has published details of a family of such aerospace craft,but of varying sizes. The lineal descendant, Edgar Fouche, of a great French spymaster reports on what he knows about the TR-3B–via six people in black programs."
http://www.darkgovernment.com/news/tr-3b/
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_extraterrestrialtech07.htm
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"And if you want a real covert operation, how about stealing 200 Davy Crockett tactical nuclear weapons from the US, together with ~15 Jupiter MRBMs (Medium Range Ballistic Missiles) from your great ally the United States. Now, upgrade the 100 ton yield warheads to 7 KT kilotons–half the yield of the Hiroshima A-Bomb and build some as deep penetrating bunker busters? Illegally test several enhanced Davy Crocketts in the Negev Desert, modify the guidance on the Jupiters and nuke Syria, including one A-Bomb attack via F-15E Strike Eagle. Not only did the perfidious Israelis do all these things, but because Syria wasn't about to admit any of it, Israel certainly wasn't talking and the US, having been had in every sense of the expression, was very much involved in suppressing even the dead giveaway seismic records, Israel got away with it! How's that for an exclusive?!"
-
"For the record, John Kettler personally knew and consulted for an Operation Paperclip scientist named Dr. Hans Mauer. He was the Chief Technology Officer at Hughes Aircraft's Missile Systems Group, where Mr. Kettler worked. Additionally, John knew innocent people whose lives were upended because of the infamous Falcon and the Snowman case at TRW. One such was a woman who honchoed a black satellite program there–receiving successive funding increments of $100K in a shoebox placed in her mailbox! During his Hughes and Rockwell days, he got to listen to and meet FBI Counterintelligence Agent (real spycatcher) David Majors and handle one of the most iconic pieces of spy gear ever. He worked with former (and not exactly former) personnel, operators and analysts from CIA, Agency proprietary Air America, DIA, NSA, Air Force Intelligence and more. After leaving military aerospace in mid 1989, Mr. Kettler found himself in the remarkable situation of being in the same room with KGB officers about whom he had once held classified files! This was in a panel discussion with their former US opponents. On a different occasion, he was greatly fortunate to be able to attend a gathering in which the former Undersecretary General of the United Nations (CIA agent in place while in that job) and highest ranking Soviet defector ever, Arkady Shevchenko spoke. John Kettler got to meet him and managed to get his copy of Shevchenko's book autographed. Shevchenko had used the tradecraft goodies and techniques that are the stuff of spy novels and films."
Falcon and the Snowman : http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists_spies/spies/boyce_lee/1.html
http://www.spybusters.com/Great_Seal_Bug.html
Arkady Shevchenko : http://www.nytimes.com/1998/03/11/us/arkady-n-shevchenko-67-a-key-soviet-defector-dies.html
"That brilliant bug in the Great Seal story linked to above was created by this man, Leon Theremin. You may not know his name, but you almost certainly know the music from the instrument he created."
"Some of the sorts of things Mr. Kettler was exposed to from practically when he could read. How many other kids understood microdots while in elementary school?"
https://johnkettler.com/north-korea-why-kim-jong-un-blinked/
1 March 2018 02:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Just sample from first blog that jumps up:
(links in bottom, in order, related to text)
John Kettler Investigates (someone told he worked for NSA teadlasena??) is Like Nothing Else You'll Find on the Internet!
There are gobs and gobs of UFO and ET sites. John Kettler Investigates has information you'll not find elsewhere, together with exclusive coverage of the positively oriented ETs/EDs (Extraterrestrials/ Extradimensionals of the Liberation Forces, the wars upon wars being fought to liberate us from multiple terrible thralls and the painful, halting progress toward real evolution. And while other sites are peddling sunshine and lollypops, this site delivers the searing truth. Whether it be deep black saucer recoveries, applied UFO tech, separating real UFO events from other things (sorry, no marsh gas here), reporting on close encounters–or what happens when military personnel, during a super classified UFO War, encounter creatures so alien that the Area 51 exobiologists come unstuck–John Kettler Investigates (JKI) is there. Who else has revealed the real reason President John F. Kennnedy, Bobby Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe were killed? Will your skin not crawl when you read real accounts of the enormously dangerous BEK (Black-Eyed Kids)? And those rumors of a Nazi base in Antarctica? Fact! John Kettler has talked to someone who has eyeballed the legendary ice free zone and warm lakes at the South Pole, both of which figure prominently in the long-suppressed story of the Nazi secret base there which survived World War II and kicked the daylights out of Operation High Jump, Admiral Byrd's military assault force to destroy the base. See for yourself on the Home page continuation here. This was done so the site would load quickly.
// OKEY... a lot of it is to earthy... then to far out... then to clishee... wonder what is point as it seems 3 different world linked to hes blog, included inflatrated.,
But just for old friend respect, will post 2 first pages links on to here, few names/events still can be found from here, that
betwen all this " NWO " ...man usually skipping sites just seeing this acronym...
jet have not seen a lot of complet intelligent shaman-religion-goflines intelligent information site that would talk about, or in, like this:
Liberation Forces : https://johnkettler.com/etseds-wrestle-with-huge-changes/
painful, halting progress toward real evolution.: https://johnkettler.com/ets-eds-liberation-forces-progress/
separating real UFO events from other things: https://johnkettler.com/afghanistan-ufo-the-real-truth/
UFO War: https://johnkettler.com/ufo-war-goes-nuclear/
creatures so alien: https://johnkettler.com/ufo-war-shocking-news-new-foe-victories/
BEK (Black-Eyed Kids): https://johnkettler.com/bek-black-eyed-kids-exposed-breaking-urgent/
https://johnkettler.com/john-kettler-investigates-home-2/
"Russian documentary on Nazi secret base in Antarctica and Operation High Jump. Has English subtitles, is deadly serious and has two doctorate level (military studies) Russian colonels in uniform, as well as a civilian academic, also with doctorate, on camera repeatedly. Prepare to be shocked."
...
"A real ET recording shot inside an ultra secure building within the already black Area 51 and smuggled out at mortal risk to the person who felt we the people deserved to know not only that we are not alone, but the government has lied hugely; has met ETs and communicated with them. Some get to stay without asking to do so! DNI stands for Department of Naval Intelligence and is not to be confused with ONI, the Office of Naval Intelligence. Bob Lazar's paycheck was tied to a classified DNI contract. Hmm."
"A dying CIA officer tells of his own direct experience of UFOs and ETs. He was in it clear back to Roswell."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQH11GW7w8Q
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//again not my aria
"The NWO alone, the ultimate goal of the farcical-to-the-uninformed Illuminati, never mind conspiracy issues, is covered, directly and indirectly, by what must surely be thousands of sites. John Kettler Investigates frequently goes straight at the various NWO branches, exposing their nefarious plans and doings, forcing them to back off or at least trim their sails. Time and again, JKI has uncovered the real message, exposed the Big Lie. These acts have brought both the site and John Kettler a lot of grief, but it goes with the job. CIA. NSA. DHS. All and more have been on the receiving end of withering blasts from this site. Mind control. Engineered disease. Blocked evolution. Humans tagged as cattle. The downsides of our cell phones. These are but a few of the matters the site addresses. Below is a small part of an interview with the woman Svali, who was born into the Illuminati and spent 30 years in it, much of it as someone who practiced harrowing mind control on Illuminati children and trained others to do so. Ignore her at your peril."
https://johnkettler.com/nwo-time-self-exterminate/
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/illuminati/svali.htm
https://johnkettler.com/cia-compromises-seal-opsec/
https://johnkettler.com/nsa-manipulates-social-media-networks-exclusive/
https://johnkettler.com/dhs-big-lie-ison-gun-grab/
(links in bottom, in order, related to text)
John Kettler Investigates (someone told he worked for NSA teadlasena??) is Like Nothing Else You'll Find on the Internet!
There are gobs and gobs of UFO and ET sites. John Kettler Investigates has information you'll not find elsewhere, together with exclusive coverage of the positively oriented ETs/EDs (Extraterrestrials/ Extradimensionals of the Liberation Forces, the wars upon wars being fought to liberate us from multiple terrible thralls and the painful, halting progress toward real evolution. And while other sites are peddling sunshine and lollypops, this site delivers the searing truth. Whether it be deep black saucer recoveries, applied UFO tech, separating real UFO events from other things (sorry, no marsh gas here), reporting on close encounters–or what happens when military personnel, during a super classified UFO War, encounter creatures so alien that the Area 51 exobiologists come unstuck–John Kettler Investigates (JKI) is there. Who else has revealed the real reason President John F. Kennnedy, Bobby Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe were killed? Will your skin not crawl when you read real accounts of the enormously dangerous BEK (Black-Eyed Kids)? And those rumors of a Nazi base in Antarctica? Fact! John Kettler has talked to someone who has eyeballed the legendary ice free zone and warm lakes at the South Pole, both of which figure prominently in the long-suppressed story of the Nazi secret base there which survived World War II and kicked the daylights out of Operation High Jump, Admiral Byrd's military assault force to destroy the base. See for yourself on the Home page continuation here. This was done so the site would load quickly.
// OKEY... a lot of it is to earthy... then to far out... then to clishee... wonder what is point as it seems 3 different world linked to hes blog, included inflatrated.,
But just for old friend respect, will post 2 first pages links on to here, few names/events still can be found from here, that
betwen all this " NWO " ...man usually skipping sites just seeing this acronym...
jet have not seen a lot of complet intelligent shaman-religion-goflines intelligent information site that would talk about, or in, like this:
Liberation Forces : https://johnkettler.com/etseds-wrestle-with-huge-changes/
painful, halting progress toward real evolution.: https://johnkettler.com/ets-eds-liberation-forces-progress/
separating real UFO events from other things: https://johnkettler.com/afghanistan-ufo-the-real-truth/
UFO War: https://johnkettler.com/ufo-war-goes-nuclear/
creatures so alien: https://johnkettler.com/ufo-war-shocking-news-new-foe-victories/
BEK (Black-Eyed Kids): https://johnkettler.com/bek-black-eyed-kids-exposed-breaking-urgent/
https://johnkettler.com/john-kettler-investigates-home-2/
"Russian documentary on Nazi secret base in Antarctica and Operation High Jump. Has English subtitles, is deadly serious and has two doctorate level (military studies) Russian colonels in uniform, as well as a civilian academic, also with doctorate, on camera repeatedly. Prepare to be shocked."
...
"A real ET recording shot inside an ultra secure building within the already black Area 51 and smuggled out at mortal risk to the person who felt we the people deserved to know not only that we are not alone, but the government has lied hugely; has met ETs and communicated with them. Some get to stay without asking to do so! DNI stands for Department of Naval Intelligence and is not to be confused with ONI, the Office of Naval Intelligence. Bob Lazar's paycheck was tied to a classified DNI contract. Hmm."
"A dying CIA officer tells of his own direct experience of UFOs and ETs. He was in it clear back to Roswell."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQH11GW7w8Q
----
//again not my aria
"The NWO alone, the ultimate goal of the farcical-to-the-uninformed Illuminati, never mind conspiracy issues, is covered, directly and indirectly, by what must surely be thousands of sites. John Kettler Investigates frequently goes straight at the various NWO branches, exposing their nefarious plans and doings, forcing them to back off or at least trim their sails. Time and again, JKI has uncovered the real message, exposed the Big Lie. These acts have brought both the site and John Kettler a lot of grief, but it goes with the job. CIA. NSA. DHS. All and more have been on the receiving end of withering blasts from this site. Mind control. Engineered disease. Blocked evolution. Humans tagged as cattle. The downsides of our cell phones. These are but a few of the matters the site addresses. Below is a small part of an interview with the woman Svali, who was born into the Illuminati and spent 30 years in it, much of it as someone who practiced harrowing mind control on Illuminati children and trained others to do so. Ignore her at your peril."
https://johnkettler.com/nwo-time-self-exterminate/
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/illuminati/svali.htm
https://johnkettler.com/cia-compromises-seal-opsec/
https://johnkettler.com/nsa-manipulates-social-media-networks-exclusive/
https://johnkettler.com/dhs-big-lie-ison-gun-grab/
https://johnkettler.com/etseds-wrestle-with-huge-changes/
1 March 2018 02:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
15+ aastat kaua võib
tahata seda keda siin maailmas ei ole lubatud tahta , enam
tahata seda keda siin maailmas ei ole lubatud tahta , enam
1 March 2018 01:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just sellisel perioodil ka nagu camoon
1 March 2018 01:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja mitte mingit pidi ma ei soovi füüsiliselt enne ennast ehitada ideaalseks, sest see siis poleks armastus, vaid loogiline intelligentnbe normaalsus ja "teaduslik"i ehk...
siis pole ju enam armastus sellises mõõtmes mida ma siin ilmas elluäratada soovin, proovin, unistanud, ...kuid fooksu kõihge hea osas ka kõiki heade osas...
...ja see ka veel lisa...sest ei saa fokuseerida lihtsat asja nagu enamus..ühele inimesel..vaid ühele selleks, et teistel oleks.. ja siis era suur enda asi ja teiste asi..paraleelselt...aga elemetaarse füüsika järgi to pool kes vajaks teis tähelepanu et vaimses ilmas tunnetada..siis see elemtaa...aah mis ma seda siiin seletad aproovin ilma 3d graafika filmita
siis pole ju enam armastus sellises mõõtmes mida ma siin ilmas elluäratada soovin, proovin, unistanud, ...kuid fooksu kõihge hea osas ka kõiki heade osas...
...ja see ka veel lisa...sest ei saa fokuseerida lihtsat asja nagu enamus..ühele inimesel..vaid ühele selleks, et teistel oleks.. ja siis era suur enda asi ja teiste asi..paraleelselt...aga elemetaarse füüsika järgi to pool kes vajaks teis tähelepanu et vaimses ilmas tunnetada..siis see elemtaa...aah mis ma seda siiin seletad aproovin ilma 3d graafika filmita
1 March 2018 01:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi oma südames lubanud,et seda ainult hästi tunnetan kui meeles see kes käskis ennast meeltest likvideerida.
hmmseda ilm ilma..ilma eluta olemist
hmmseda ilm ilma..ilma eluta olemist
1 March 2018 01:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
oooihhh,,, ja muidgugi peab kellegi pilt ka siin veel kedagi meelde tuletama typical
eh..just nüüd avastasin peale postitamist
eh..just nüüd avastasin peale postitamist
1 March 2018 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
va armastuse osa, seda ei saa teha, sest seda keelati ja kui armastad kedagi ja ta keelab, siis ju seda ei tee mid ateine ei soovi
1 March 2018 01:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid noh..eks suht samas taktis ikka jätkan.
1 March 2018 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's post.
Enamus siin öeldu on mu elu päris keeruliseks teinud
1 March 2018 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
st nu ma kolliks ei nimeta, sest oleneb mida ja kuidas sinna sisse panna-..
1 March 2018 01:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mis see...telekas siis veel olema peaks..
1 March 2018 01:18
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's post.
elementaarne
1 March 2018 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on Merike Ausmaa's post.
Oh Sind millega Sa mängid..
1 March 2018 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
lisaks veel süütuid inimesi saanud saatesse, ja see veel ...mureks..et
nad selles saates ütlevad, et OTSE abielludes, nagu oleks "potensiaalseks tõsiseks mureks ja probleemiks see et ta on süütu.."
"kuid ega see pole nii oluline miinus, et asja võimatuks tteks.." (see phd dega armastuse spetsalist rääkis)
nu et nagu... wau... et nüüd standard nagu,et inimene peaks enne magatatud olema kui abielluma hakab v??
nad selles saates ütlevad, et OTSE abielludes, nagu oleks "potensiaalseks tõsiseks mureks ja probleemiks see et ta on süütu.."
"kuid ega see pole nii oluline miinus, et asja võimatuks tteks.." (see phd dega armastuse spetsalist rääkis)
nu et nagu... wau... et nüüd standard nagu,et inimene peaks enne magatatud olema kui abielluma hakab v??
1 March 2018 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja muidgi lihtne on panna ideaalseid inimesi kokku,
eks nad isegi eetrisse vb lisavad, mõne kes ei tee abielu lopuni...kuid suures osas...piisab kui ühe poole sisemust teada, see hirmsügav test mida nad tegid juba ise piisav hingeinfo mappimiseks ja sellejärgi kaaslane panna kes saatesarja aja vähemalt suudab hoida kõike ideaalselt, eks nagu suur osa olendiki...kuid eks kogu projekti mõttes, ei imesta kui lisa maksumus tuleb siis ühele poolele kui kokk ujjäädakse
eks nad isegi eetrisse vb lisavad, mõne kes ei tee abielu lopuni...kuid suures osas...piisab kui ühe poole sisemust teada, see hirmsügav test mida nad tegid juba ise piisav hingeinfo mappimiseks ja sellejärgi kaaslane panna kes saatesarja aja vähemalt suudab hoida kõike ideaalselt, eks nagu suur osa olendiki...kuid eks kogu projekti mõttes, ei imesta kui lisa maksumus tuleb siis ühele poolele kui kokk ujjäädakse
1 March 2018 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tugev varjatud vanemate vastalisus käib saatest läbi
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1 March 2018 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Generally speaking, where the source material is quite gentle, the English translation has to come over as “rougher” and more casual, because modern English just works that way. In fact once one tries to translate these things one begins to realize how far modern English forces one into certain attitudes and cultural “boxes”.
Which in my case, at least, is one reason for learning Japanese.
Just for fun, let’s take a very brief humorous caption to a picture (I love Japanese caption contests but please note that this is strictly for academic purposes and not just because Cure Dolly wants to post a kawaii picture of a tanuki holding a kitten).
I tried to translate the caption, and although it is only a few words long I found that I ran into various small problems. None of them were really serious, but multiply this by several thousand words and you can imagine how, with no conscious attempt of localization at all (which is rare in fan translations and pretty much non-existent in professional translations), the whole tone of a work is completely changed.
Which in my case, at least, is one reason for learning Japanese.
Just for fun, let’s take a very brief humorous caption to a picture (I love Japanese caption contests but please note that this is strictly for academic purposes and not just because Cure Dolly wants to post a kawaii picture of a tanuki holding a kitten).
I tried to translate the caption, and although it is only a few words long I found that I ran into various small problems. None of them were really serious, but multiply this by several thousand words and you can imagine how, with no conscious attempt of localization at all (which is rare in fan translations and pretty much non-existent in professional translations), the whole tone of a work is completely changed.
28 February 2018 17:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
See laul ma arvan, et tuli siis Sydamekeselt mulle
28 February 2018 16:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ainukesed lapselikumad perioodid olid ajutiselt peale teismelise aega.. veider, mis moodi alkohol inimese tegelikult titalikumaks teeb ja uuesti saab kasvama hakata kui see mahajäetud on
28 February 2018 14:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
umbes nagu lapsed seda asja peas ei oskaks mõelda, väikse täiskasvanuna,
mäletan küll ..et mõttet olin lapsestsaati juba samamoodi tõsised ja suured, ja kohe oli näha kes niisama tola mängis.
miks peaks arvama, et muud lapsed siis "lapsikud" peaks olema.
Väga mehiseid lapsi on, kelle arusaamad ja väärtused vanematest olenemat apaikas.
mäletan küll ..et mõttet olin lapsestsaati juba samamoodi tõsised ja suured, ja kohe oli näha kes niisama tola mängis.
miks peaks arvama, et muud lapsed siis "lapsikud" peaks olema.
Väga mehiseid lapsi on, kelle arusaamad ja väärtused vanematest olenemat apaikas.
28 February 2018 14:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
meil vaja selles maailmas õpetada lastele mis on päris
mitte tilulilu ega plärakasti kus keegi selgelt mängib midagi mis ta pole, mida ta ise heameelega ei tee vaid rahanimel vms.
mitte tilulilu ega plärakasti kus keegi selgelt mängib midagi mis ta pole, mida ta ise heameelega ei tee vaid rahanimel vms.
28 February 2018 14:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
totruste kannumist ei ole vaja lastel vaid reaalset päris vestlusi ja siirast suunatud harivat ja põnevat huvi, peaasi, et huvi on siiras mitte skript, kui keegi võlts mängu läbinäeb kes siis veel kui laps
28 February 2018 14:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
kuskil oli üks hea teadlase jutt aga kadunud see korraks..
"Differing with other psychoactive drugs, such as stimulants and opioids, psychedelics tend to qualitatively alter ordinary conscious experience. Whereas stimulants cause energized feelings and opioids produce a relaxed euphoric state, the psychedelic experience is often compared to non-ordinary forms of consciousness such as trance, meditation, yoga, religious ecstasy, dreaming and even near-death experiences. Most psychedelic drugs fall into one of the three families of chemical compounds: tryptamines, phenethylamines, or lysergamides.
Many psychedelic drugs are illegal worldwide under the UN conventions, occasionally excepting use in a religious or research context. Despite these controls, recreational use of psychedelics is common"28 February 2018 13:15
Margus Meigo commented on Wa Toosh's post.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
Uimasteid ja narkootikume ei kasuta, kuid jumala ja enda ajatajuga kursisolemiseks, positiivsemate suuremõõtmeliste mõteteosas ning enda teiste jaoks paremaks tegemiseks psühedeelikume küll saab võetud ütle ja loe(mäleta) mis nende asjade legaalne ja meditsiiniline erinevus on28 February 2018 13:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kas mõni eesltane veel ,köhis, et "oo..mei lak hinnatõusu probleemid..."
28 February 2018 04:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
igaksjuhkssaatsin ... mitte, et ma seda ise oskaks
28 February 2018 03:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// is this dude a litte strange there... what about even step real top of playng real top of real possible but .. can be more real top of that... liek fore real conversation
28 February 2018 03:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid kerline on suhteline siis kui oled ühes või selle pealolevas mitmes,
sest miks peakskeeruline olem keeele ja keele mooduste kasutajatel,
sest miks peakskeeruline olem keeele ja keele mooduste kasutajatel,
28 February 2018 03:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey aga ma ei hakka sedasi keeruliselt rääkima, ikka sõnade suunad olgu haraly aga maa suuntes,
see nagu sama muretekitav kare, kui üks on päris puit ja teien looduse initatsioon..
puidu karedus ja lõhn on ikka paremad ju ?
Ja igast random ideede jaoks, saab igast puu juppi kuskilt võttes edukalt mujal kasutada kui teoreetilsielt osavad puutundjad ..et palju siisneid materiale on.. jah.. pastakad võivad olla hembist ja...
see nagu sama muretekitav kare, kui üks on päris puit ja teien looduse initatsioon..
puidu karedus ja lõhn on ikka paremad ju ?
Ja igast random ideede jaoks, saab igast puu juppi kuskilt võttes edukalt mujal kasutada kui teoreetilsielt osavad puutundjad ..et palju siisneid materiale on.. jah.. pastakad võivad olla hembist ja...
28 February 2018 03:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Pildi nimi, himil ajab roppsi proovides põgeneda selle maailma eest
Ehk Euroopusest ööse
Ehk Euroopusest ööse
28 February 2018 03:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but these re sellers was these kind of lucky .. that i had no realization of what am losing but more was in value of thesting their spirit true sides if they really , unbelivable way, why like that when can keep the sin same but keep yourself human...
so yea.. and these who cros a border, also,
these personalty who has been broken, is surely usualy personalaty brokement result,
it is can be like diagnoses, as theorethical study at first
so yea.. and these who cros a border, also,
these personalty who has been broken, is surely usualy personalaty brokement result,
it is can be like diagnoses, as theorethical study at first
28 February 2018 03:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(to ad i was not able to get my gift to a bub named Peasent, in UK,
Where i had to plan gift this 50 000 + painting with blackmarket price, ... so...wanted to give it to this Pub am later think when am re-remebered the Pub (as for me entire sections of time at times can be missing and then surely if was real should retuun soon))
Where i had to plan gift this 50 000 + painting with blackmarket price, ... so...wanted to give it to this Pub am later think when am re-remebered the Pub (as for me entire sections of time at times can be missing and then surely if was real should retuun soon))
28 February 2018 03:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in peasent point of view
28 February 2018 03:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just this data, for starters, should be right, it is already great win
28 February 2018 03:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but soon we most likely do, if everything go well, and data saving laws, will allow finally for put in practice a law that gives people right ... to access their own right ful time, and what data they had access on this given moment, this data should be accessible, can not go backwards in history and start to remove and attack on these who was alive on that time when this data was available
28 February 2018 03:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in main post
28 February 2018 03:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oh ... if someone would have only known, on what picture related, this comment was made
28 February 2018 03:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Et kas on nii
28 February 2018 03:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nu kus see pilt nyyd on mul too pasiilia briillidega mis ei võiks olal basic hääl ja image batter mapping system elementaarne inim õigus algelisemaski seadmes
28 February 2018 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// liiga haige sellsite sonadega panid suurelt videodes.. sedasi sissesoita sedasi silmapanan seda poel normaalne.... selsieleheale loole eks saanud palju parema asja panna aga see nag u püünis mõjub
28 February 2018 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
kõi teavad öelda nagu, t "oi OI ta nagu teeks seal seda ja teist"
Aga ma ütlen teile, H.U.I. Teate, kui sedagi, mul võis tilli taime ja lkuvatatud lepalehe puru sääl olla, mis mingi muu osa on keelatud selline pakendamine või välimus või säks ja näitamine või ?
Kuidas see saaks rohkem keelatud olla, kui .. KINDLAT ebahea näitamine, vs. keegi oletab et midagi vähem head kui filtriga..pppyyhhhah... seda huultvahelgi hoida... vs mis material siin tunudub
Aga ma ütlen teile, H.U.I. Teate, kui sedagi, mul võis tilli taime ja lkuvatatud lepalehe puru sääl olla, mis mingi muu osa on keelatud selline pakendamine või välimus või säks ja näitamine või ?
Kuidas see saaks rohkem keelatud olla, kui .. KINDLAT ebahea näitamine, vs. keegi oletab et midagi vähem head kui filtriga..pppyyhhhah... seda huultvahelgi hoida... vs mis material siin tunudub
28 February 2018 02:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei selle pildi peab vist ära panema, see peaaegu ebaaus arumsius mis nad sinna pildile või mis nad sleles ekraanis esitlevad, kui
õiged mehed päriselt võtaks tõena seda pilti oletame, sis see selline pilt, mis sadaprotsenti omaik kellele helistatakse peaks vastama, et viisakas olla,
kui arvata, et päris,
st ei saa ignoreeridagi,
kui ausana võtta, ja sellsiel tasemel pilte ei tohiks volts kontodel kasutada,
liiga suure el uja reaalsuse loovad,
ainuüksi pildina.. aga mis selle taka on see .. see mis naine ja kus ta on see kuidas seda arvad et üles ledia... see jääb mis väline imago kellegi arvates su ümber pandud
õiged mehed päriselt võtaks tõena seda pilti oletame, sis see selline pilt, mis sadaprotsenti omaik kellele helistatakse peaks vastama, et viisakas olla,
kui arvata, et päris,
st ei saa ignoreeridagi,
kui ausana võtta, ja sellsiel tasemel pilte ei tohiks volts kontodel kasutada,
liiga suure el uja reaalsuse loovad,
ainuüksi pildina.. aga mis selle taka on see .. see mis naine ja kus ta on see kuidas seda arvad et üles ledia... see jääb mis väline imago kellegi arvates su ümber pandud
28 February 2018 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tundes mõtteetundes st,
mõttetudes
mõtteTundes
mõttetudes
mõtteTundes
28 February 2018 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(umbes samamoodi aga otsmikut kinni hoides, jaseda vaadates ,sedasi mõeldes)
28 February 2018 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või on lihtsalt pärisnaise olemus nii väärt, et seda kasutades, on nad väga targa valiku tienud, tagatuasta ja ümara ilusa ringina, viisaka kumerusega kanidilne mees allparemas nurgas, naine üleval,
täiesti normaalne
täiesti normaalne
28 February 2018 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
When fakes are so beautiful, in a setting, that .. you almost start to be live it is real, in careful deeper thoughtful moment,
But everything is more alive, when it was, we can say..
but what if some things can be laer alive and first faked, or first meant to e faked and newer becoming more... before gone.. is that possible.
But everything is more alive, when it was, we can say..
but what if some things can be laer alive and first faked, or first meant to e faked and newer becoming more... before gone.. is that possible.
28 February 2018 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but yes... i have also been working on solutions for fixing this movie propeller... to explain.. what kind of PG ..
28 February 2018 00:25
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
Some memes happen in real life whitout effort
28 February 2018 00:25
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
Just discovered now ?
Well.. he is on right path but..
Well.. he is on right path but..
28 February 2018 00:24
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Liek a God's work
28 February 2018 00:21
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
oh vaene kutsa
...see on see linnukeste tagaajamine
...see on see linnukeste tagaajamine
28 February 2018 00:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See kah
https://www.facebook.com/TheAntiMedia/photos/a.156753707783006.14385.156720204453023/1006754086116293/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/TheAntiMedia/photos/a.156753707783006.14385.156720204453023/1006754086116293/?type=3&theater
28 February 2018 00:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: CIA Operative Friends
Ryan Tomek thnaks
First world problems "can not get work - in central intelligence27 February 2018 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
JUS Comment that was left unfiniced: Somewhere Here: // Point is that so high, and even thought made with HumanElement, can be ondanger to surrender to situation where Corporation will force to add in ...
// so now to the ideal woman post
// so now to the ideal woman post
27 February 2018 16:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: CIA Operative Friends
Arnold Zilban You talking LIKE this and You tell That to me, is it what Nyingma teaches?
Would think that someone of 55 years of age, multiple offences with cocaine dealings & criminal activity on USA soil,
.. after so many times in Florida & NY courts would be a bit more sensible in WHAT FB group to choose for random insults...
Ending up in Strawberry Fields easy like that..27 February 2018 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on Ben Obi's post.
Group: CIA Operative Friends
Are you aware triggers to change your persona?27 February 2018 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: CIA Operative Friends
why was they arrested again?27 February 2018 02:30
Margus Meigo commented on Shafiul Haque's post.
Group: CIA Operative Friends
Are these kids with no manners?
And what is with this woman, emotionally spinning up strike when uniform people on war aria ask to comply?
Can they imagine, what back in serbia or some Russian mountain arias would have been done with all of them in this situation?
Sad was that no on planned to explain kids, calm their emotion,
perhaps they need some calming spray (in Africa they developed something based on MDMA old times..) or something in these emotional times, as some mad kid might pull a trigger.
(ps: hint, cameraman would not have made out there..,)27 February 2018 02:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"A noble savage is a literary stock character who embodies the concept of the indigene, outsider, wild human, an "other" who has not been "corrupted" by civilization, and therefore symbolizes humanity's innate goodness.
In English, the phrase first appeared in the 17th century in John Dryden's heroic play The Conquest of Granada (1672), wherein it was used in reference to newly created man. "Savage" at that time could mean "wild beast" as well as "wild man".[2] The phrase later became identified with the idealized picture of "nature's gentleman", which was an aspect of 18th-century sentimentalism. The noble savage achieved prominence as an oxymoronic rhetorical device after 1851, when used sarcastically as the title for a satirical essay by English novelist Charles Dickens, whom some believe may have wished to disassociate himself from what he viewed as the "feminine" sentimentality of 18th and early 19th-century romantic primitivism.[a]
The idea that humans are essentially good is often attributed to the 3rd Earl of Shaftesbury[citation needed], a Whig supporter of constitutional monarchy. In his Inquiry Concerning Virtue (1699), Shaftesbury had postulated that the moral sense in humans is natural and innate and based on feelings, rather than resulting from the indoctrination of a particular religion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_savage
In English, the phrase first appeared in the 17th century in John Dryden's heroic play The Conquest of Granada (1672), wherein it was used in reference to newly created man. "Savage" at that time could mean "wild beast" as well as "wild man".[2] The phrase later became identified with the idealized picture of "nature's gentleman", which was an aspect of 18th-century sentimentalism. The noble savage achieved prominence as an oxymoronic rhetorical device after 1851, when used sarcastically as the title for a satirical essay by English novelist Charles Dickens, whom some believe may have wished to disassociate himself from what he viewed as the "feminine" sentimentality of 18th and early 19th-century romantic primitivism.[a]
The idea that humans are essentially good is often attributed to the 3rd Earl of Shaftesbury[citation needed], a Whig supporter of constitutional monarchy. In his Inquiry Concerning Virtue (1699), Shaftesbury had postulated that the moral sense in humans is natural and innate and based on feelings, rather than resulting from the indoctrination of a particular religion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_savage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_savage
26 February 2018 21:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Legacy
This series of short stories revealed Turgenev's unique talent as a short story writer. Evidently it greatly influenced all Russian short story writers of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, such as Anton Chekhov, Ivan Bunin, Alexander Kuprin and many others.
Other world writers also admired Turgenev's style. Sherwood Anderson was particularly influenced by Turgenev's literature. He considered A Sportsman's Sketches to be a paradigm for his own short stories.
More recently, Turgenev has been criticized for his somewhat idealized characterization of muzhiks. Turgenev's muzhiks have been compared to other noble savages in 19th-century fiction (such as American Indians in works by J. F. Cooper).
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The term serf, in the sense of an unfree peasant of the Russian Empire, is the usual translation of krepostnoi krestyanin (крепостной крестьянин). The origins of serfdom in Russia are traced to Kievan Rus' in the 11th century. Legal documents of the epoch, such as Russkaya Pravda, distinguished several degrees of feudal dependency of peasants.
Serfdom became the dominant form of relation between peasants and nobility in the 17th century. Serfdom only existed in central and southern areas of the Russian Empire. It was never established in the north, the Urals or Siberia.
Tsar Alexander I wanted to reform the system but was stymied. New laws allowed all classes (except the serfs) to own land, a privilege that was previously confined to the nobility.[1] Russian serfdom was finally abolished in the emancipation reform of 1861 by Tsar Alexander II. Scholars have proposed multiple overlapping reasons to account for the abolition, including fear of a large-scale revolt by the serfs, the government's financial needs, evolving cultural sensibilities and the military's need for soldiers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom_in_Russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_savage
This series of short stories revealed Turgenev's unique talent as a short story writer. Evidently it greatly influenced all Russian short story writers of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, such as Anton Chekhov, Ivan Bunin, Alexander Kuprin and many others.
Other world writers also admired Turgenev's style. Sherwood Anderson was particularly influenced by Turgenev's literature. He considered A Sportsman's Sketches to be a paradigm for his own short stories.
More recently, Turgenev has been criticized for his somewhat idealized characterization of muzhiks. Turgenev's muzhiks have been compared to other noble savages in 19th-century fiction (such as American Indians in works by J. F. Cooper).
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The term serf, in the sense of an unfree peasant of the Russian Empire, is the usual translation of krepostnoi krestyanin (крепостной крестьянин). The origins of serfdom in Russia are traced to Kievan Rus' in the 11th century. Legal documents of the epoch, such as Russkaya Pravda, distinguished several degrees of feudal dependency of peasants.
Serfdom became the dominant form of relation between peasants and nobility in the 17th century. Serfdom only existed in central and southern areas of the Russian Empire. It was never established in the north, the Urals or Siberia.
Tsar Alexander I wanted to reform the system but was stymied. New laws allowed all classes (except the serfs) to own land, a privilege that was previously confined to the nobility.[1] Russian serfdom was finally abolished in the emancipation reform of 1861 by Tsar Alexander II. Scholars have proposed multiple overlapping reasons to account for the abolition, including fear of a large-scale revolt by the serfs, the government's financial needs, evolving cultural sensibilities and the military's need for soldiers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom_in_Russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_savage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom_in_Russia
26 February 2018 21:17
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Sportsman's_Sketches#Hamlet_of_the_Shchigrovsky_District
"Pyotr Petrovich Karataev
While at a post, the narrator meets a lower, uneducated landowner named Karataev who has lost his land because of an IOU. He learns from him that he once fell in love with a peasant girl named Matroyna, owned by another landowner. He attempts to buy her from the woman, but she forbids it because she simply does not want to and sends her away to another village. Karataev, in desperation, finds her and brings her home where he hides her for a time, eluding authorities by placing her away from his home. In the end she gives herself up and Karataev goes off to Moscow, where the narrator finds him later happy amongst friends but completely broke.
Meeting
While out hunting, the narrator happens to witness the meeting of a peasant girl who is in love with a pampered, pompous valet. When he comes he treats her with disinterest and leaves her to say he is going away after announcing he cannot marry her. The girl sheds tears and the narrator goes to her when she almost collapses, but she runs away when she notices him.
Hamlet of the Shchigrovsky District
Hamlet of the Shchigrovsky District. The drawing by Ivan Turgenev. Circa 1850 (?).
In this story the narrator spends the evening at a party of a landowner named Alexander G. Here Turgenev gives excellent descriptions and parodies of the nobility. While attempting to go to sleep, the narrator finds his roommate unable to sleep as well and finds out that he is man who has realized his ununiqueness amongst the upper class, even though he is considered a wit. He is forever cursed to deep introspection and finds in himself nothing save a molded being with no true life. He leaves early in the morning without saying goodbye and the narrator never learns his name.
Chertopkhanov and Nedopyuskin
While hunting with Yermolay, the narrator comes across the landowner Chertopkhanov. He goes away on his horse and another man comes up, his friend Nedopyuskin. Chertopkhanov is the inheritor of a mortgaged little village called Unsleepy Hollow. His friend, Nedopyuskin, became close to him when the former saved him from a crowd of nobles who were tormenting him for being the inheritor of an estate despite the fact that he was so completely devoid of any bit of notoriety for anything. The two bachelors became the best of friends and live together at Unsleepy Hollow in peaceful tranquility in spite of the disrepair of the area. They embody the “loner” figure Turgenev was so interested in, able to live independently in the system.
The End of Chertopkhanov
Sequel to the previous story, though published much later in 1872. It was originally not part of the sketches. This story is more sequential than the previous, detailing the end of the landowner up to his death. He faces three misfortunes. The first is his love Masha leaving him in true “gypsy” spirit. The second is Nedopyuskin dying of a stroke. The third and final is the loss of his horse Malek Adel, the envy of local landowners who know of Chertopkhanov. One night it is stolen and he does everything in his power to find it, eventually coming across the horse at a fair. He buys it back and brings it home, but something bothers him about it. He begins to realize that the horse is not truly Malek Adel but one that looks like it and in despair he eventually shoots the animal in the head and stays in his bed afterwards. He no longer looks like himself, but when his servant comes up to him the last bit of his being comes forth and he declares that the nobleman Chertopkhanov is dying and no one can stand in his way.
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"Pyotr Petrovich Karataev
While at a post, the narrator meets a lower, uneducated landowner named Karataev who has lost his land because of an IOU. He learns from him that he once fell in love with a peasant girl named Matroyna, owned by another landowner. He attempts to buy her from the woman, but she forbids it because she simply does not want to and sends her away to another village. Karataev, in desperation, finds her and brings her home where he hides her for a time, eluding authorities by placing her away from his home. In the end she gives herself up and Karataev goes off to Moscow, where the narrator finds him later happy amongst friends but completely broke.
Meeting
While out hunting, the narrator happens to witness the meeting of a peasant girl who is in love with a pampered, pompous valet. When he comes he treats her with disinterest and leaves her to say he is going away after announcing he cannot marry her. The girl sheds tears and the narrator goes to her when she almost collapses, but she runs away when she notices him.
Hamlet of the Shchigrovsky District
Hamlet of the Shchigrovsky District. The drawing by Ivan Turgenev. Circa 1850 (?).
In this story the narrator spends the evening at a party of a landowner named Alexander G. Here Turgenev gives excellent descriptions and parodies of the nobility. While attempting to go to sleep, the narrator finds his roommate unable to sleep as well and finds out that he is man who has realized his ununiqueness amongst the upper class, even though he is considered a wit. He is forever cursed to deep introspection and finds in himself nothing save a molded being with no true life. He leaves early in the morning without saying goodbye and the narrator never learns his name.
Chertopkhanov and Nedopyuskin
While hunting with Yermolay, the narrator comes across the landowner Chertopkhanov. He goes away on his horse and another man comes up, his friend Nedopyuskin. Chertopkhanov is the inheritor of a mortgaged little village called Unsleepy Hollow. His friend, Nedopyuskin, became close to him when the former saved him from a crowd of nobles who were tormenting him for being the inheritor of an estate despite the fact that he was so completely devoid of any bit of notoriety for anything. The two bachelors became the best of friends and live together at Unsleepy Hollow in peaceful tranquility in spite of the disrepair of the area. They embody the “loner” figure Turgenev was so interested in, able to live independently in the system.
The End of Chertopkhanov
Sequel to the previous story, though published much later in 1872. It was originally not part of the sketches. This story is more sequential than the previous, detailing the end of the landowner up to his death. He faces three misfortunes. The first is his love Masha leaving him in true “gypsy” spirit. The second is Nedopyuskin dying of a stroke. The third and final is the loss of his horse Malek Adel, the envy of local landowners who know of Chertopkhanov. One night it is stolen and he does everything in his power to find it, eventually coming across the horse at a fair. He buys it back and brings it home, but something bothers him about it. He begins to realize that the horse is not truly Malek Adel but one that looks like it and in despair he eventually shoots the animal in the head and stays in his bed afterwards. He no longer looks like himself, but when his servant comes up to him the last bit of his being comes forth and he declares that the nobleman Chertopkhanov is dying and no one can stand in his way.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Sportsman's_Sketches#Hamlet_of_the_Shchigrovsky_District
26 February 2018 21:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Holinshed's Chronicles, also known as Holinshed's Chronicles of England, Scotland, and Ireland, is a collaborative work published in several volumes and two editions, the first in 1577, and the second in 1587. It was a large, comprehensive description of British history.
The Chronicles are a source of interest to many because of their extensive links to Shakespeare's plays"
"Shakespeare is "widely believed"[2] to have used the revised second edition of the Chronicles (published in 1587) as the source for most of his history plays, the plot of Macbeth, and for portions of King Lear and Cymbeline.
Several other playwrights, such as Christopher Marlowe used the Chronicles as a source."
http://www.kcl.ac.uk/depsta/iss/library/speccoll/bomarch/bomfeb05.html
https://www.bl.uk/collection-items/holinsheds-chronicles-1577
http://www.shakespeare-online.com/sources/macbethsources2.html
http://shakespeare.nowheres.com/faq/faq37.php
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holinshed's_Chronicles
The Chronicles are a source of interest to many because of their extensive links to Shakespeare's plays"
"Shakespeare is "widely believed"[2] to have used the revised second edition of the Chronicles (published in 1587) as the source for most of his history plays, the plot of Macbeth, and for portions of King Lear and Cymbeline.
Several other playwrights, such as Christopher Marlowe used the Chronicles as a source."
http://www.kcl.ac.uk/depsta/iss/library/speccoll/bomarch/bomfeb05.html
https://www.bl.uk/collection-items/holinsheds-chronicles-1577
http://www.shakespeare-online.com/sources/macbethsources2.html
http://shakespeare.nowheres.com/faq/faq37.php
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holinshed's_Chronicles
http://www.kcl.ac.uk/depsta/iss/library/speccoll/bomarch/bomfeb05.html
26 February 2018 21:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Town Life in the Middle Ages
Were Scotland's medieval towns and burghs natural settlements or deliberate plantations? Where and why did they emerge? What were the typical topographical features of a burgh? What were the characteristic urban landmarks? How can the medieval urban plan be recreated using modern maps & other evidence? Did the burghs wield a power in the kingdom disproportionate to their size? How were the building, design & construction of public structures, e.g. tolbooths, trons, market crosses, undertaken? How important was trade, at home and overseas? What were the typical features of urban life and material culture? Was the burgh a hierarchical society and/or a unified entity? How did the burgh hierarchy, with its merchants' guilds and craft incorporations, function? How was social control maintained? What was the role of the church? How did faith, literacy and the attitude to death evolve and change in the burgh setting?
Gaelic Scotland
In 1100 Gaelic was the dominant language of the Scottish kingdom. By 1500 it had been replaced across most of lowland Scotland by 'Scots', a northern dialect of English. In the same period the monarchy became strongly identified with the economic, political and cultural interests of the lowland, Scots-speaking, areas of the kingdom. In the fourteenth century the Lordship of the Isles emerged as a new political and cultural focus for Scottish Gaeldom. The fifteenth century saw a series of political clashes between the crown and the lordship which culminated in the forfeiture of the Lordship of the Isles in 1493. At the same time expressions of cultural antagonism between Gaelic and Scots speakers became more widespread. How 'real' was this vision of a culturally split kingdom? What elements in the functioning of Highland society created the image of the wild and lawless Gael? Were there really profound differences in the organisation of Highland and Lowland society?
Were Scotland's medieval towns and burghs natural settlements or deliberate plantations? Where and why did they emerge? What were the typical topographical features of a burgh? What were the characteristic urban landmarks? How can the medieval urban plan be recreated using modern maps & other evidence? Did the burghs wield a power in the kingdom disproportionate to their size? How were the building, design & construction of public structures, e.g. tolbooths, trons, market crosses, undertaken? How important was trade, at home and overseas? What were the typical features of urban life and material culture? Was the burgh a hierarchical society and/or a unified entity? How did the burgh hierarchy, with its merchants' guilds and craft incorporations, function? How was social control maintained? What was the role of the church? How did faith, literacy and the attitude to death evolve and change in the burgh setting?
Gaelic Scotland
In 1100 Gaelic was the dominant language of the Scottish kingdom. By 1500 it had been replaced across most of lowland Scotland by 'Scots', a northern dialect of English. In the same period the monarchy became strongly identified with the economic, political and cultural interests of the lowland, Scots-speaking, areas of the kingdom. In the fourteenth century the Lordship of the Isles emerged as a new political and cultural focus for Scottish Gaeldom. The fifteenth century saw a series of political clashes between the crown and the lordship which culminated in the forfeiture of the Lordship of the Isles in 1493. At the same time expressions of cultural antagonism between Gaelic and Scots speakers became more widespread. How 'real' was this vision of a culturally split kingdom? What elements in the functioning of Highland society created the image of the wild and lawless Gael? Were there really profound differences in the organisation of Highland and Lowland society?
26 February 2018 21:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Documentary Analysis (Option for first essay). The Declaration of Arbroath
The 'Declaration' of Arbroath is the single most celebrated document to be produced in medieval Scotland. It has been hailed as proof of a precocious patriotic spirit forged by the events of the Wars of Independence. It has also been used to support the argument that by 1320 the Scots had developed an attachment to the idea of 'contractual' monarchy, i.e. Scottish monarchs who were unwilling or unable to defend the kingdom adequately could, and should, be removed. Detailed examination of the way in which the document was put together, and the immediate diplomatic and political context in which it was issued, tends to qualify these general statements about the document's significance. How and why was the 'Declaration' produced? How unique were the sentiments expressed? How has the document been interpreted by different generations of historians, and why?
https://web.archive.org/web/20070529180538/http://www.arts.ed.ac.uk:80/scothist/booklets/sh1/documents-arbroath.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20070604143555/http://www.arts.ed.ac.uk:80/scothist/booklets/sh1/tutorials-essays1.html#alba
But at length it pleased God, who only can heal after wounds, to restore us to liberty, from these innumerable calamities, by our most serene prince, king, and lord Robert, who, for the delivering of his people and his own rightful inheritance from the enemy's hand, did, like another Joshua or Maccabeus, most cheerfully undergo all manner of toil, fatigue, hardship, and hazard. Divine Providence, the right of succession by the laws and customs of the kingdom (which we will defend till death) and the due and lawful consent and assent of all the people, made him our king and prince. To him we are obliged and resolved to adhere in all things, both upon the account of his right and his own merit, as being the person who has restored the people's safety in defence of their liberties. But if this prince shall leave these principles he has so nobly pursued, and consent that we or our kingdom be subjected to the king or people of England, we will immediately endeavour to expel him, as our enemy and as the subverter both of his own and our rights, and we will make another king, who will defend our liberties: For so long as there shall but one hundred of us remain alive we will never give consent to subject ourselves to the dominion of the English. For it is not glory, it is not riches, neither is it honours, but it is liberty alone that we fight and contend for, which no honest man will lose but with his life.
For these reasons, most Reverend Father and Lord, We do with earnest prayers from our bended knees and hearts, beg and entreat Your Holiness that you may be pleased, with a sincere and cordial piety, to consider that with Him whose Vicar on earth you are there is no respect nor distinction of Jew nor Greek, Scots nor English, and that with a tender and fatherly eye you may look upon the calamities and straits brought upon us and the Church of God by the English; and that you may admonish and exhort the king of England (who may well rest satisfied with his own possessions, since that kingdom of old used to be sufficient for seven or more kings) to suffer us to live at peace in that small land of Scotland beyond which there is no habitation, since we desire nothing but our own, and we on our part, as far as we are able with respect to our own condition, shall effectually agree to him in every thing that may procure our quiet.
It is your responsibility, Most Holy Father, to interpose in this, when you see how far the violence and barbarity of the pagans is let loose to rage against Christendom for punishing of the sins of the Christians, and how much they daily encroach upon the Christian territories. And it is your interest to notice that there be no ground given for reflecting on your memory, if you should suffer any part of the Church to come under a scandal or eclipse (which we pray God may prevent) during your times. Let it therefore please Your Holiness to exhort the Christian princes not to make the wars betwixt them and their neighbours a pretext for not going to the relief of the Holy Land, since that is not the true cause of the impediment:
The 'Declaration' of Arbroath is the single most celebrated document to be produced in medieval Scotland. It has been hailed as proof of a precocious patriotic spirit forged by the events of the Wars of Independence. It has also been used to support the argument that by 1320 the Scots had developed an attachment to the idea of 'contractual' monarchy, i.e. Scottish monarchs who were unwilling or unable to defend the kingdom adequately could, and should, be removed. Detailed examination of the way in which the document was put together, and the immediate diplomatic and political context in which it was issued, tends to qualify these general statements about the document's significance. How and why was the 'Declaration' produced? How unique were the sentiments expressed? How has the document been interpreted by different generations of historians, and why?
https://web.archive.org/web/20070529180538/http://www.arts.ed.ac.uk:80/scothist/booklets/sh1/documents-arbroath.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20070604143555/http://www.arts.ed.ac.uk:80/scothist/booklets/sh1/tutorials-essays1.html#alba
But at length it pleased God, who only can heal after wounds, to restore us to liberty, from these innumerable calamities, by our most serene prince, king, and lord Robert, who, for the delivering of his people and his own rightful inheritance from the enemy's hand, did, like another Joshua or Maccabeus, most cheerfully undergo all manner of toil, fatigue, hardship, and hazard. Divine Providence, the right of succession by the laws and customs of the kingdom (which we will defend till death) and the due and lawful consent and assent of all the people, made him our king and prince. To him we are obliged and resolved to adhere in all things, both upon the account of his right and his own merit, as being the person who has restored the people's safety in defence of their liberties. But if this prince shall leave these principles he has so nobly pursued, and consent that we or our kingdom be subjected to the king or people of England, we will immediately endeavour to expel him, as our enemy and as the subverter both of his own and our rights, and we will make another king, who will defend our liberties: For so long as there shall but one hundred of us remain alive we will never give consent to subject ourselves to the dominion of the English. For it is not glory, it is not riches, neither is it honours, but it is liberty alone that we fight and contend for, which no honest man will lose but with his life.
For these reasons, most Reverend Father and Lord, We do with earnest prayers from our bended knees and hearts, beg and entreat Your Holiness that you may be pleased, with a sincere and cordial piety, to consider that with Him whose Vicar on earth you are there is no respect nor distinction of Jew nor Greek, Scots nor English, and that with a tender and fatherly eye you may look upon the calamities and straits brought upon us and the Church of God by the English; and that you may admonish and exhort the king of England (who may well rest satisfied with his own possessions, since that kingdom of old used to be sufficient for seven or more kings) to suffer us to live at peace in that small land of Scotland beyond which there is no habitation, since we desire nothing but our own, and we on our part, as far as we are able with respect to our own condition, shall effectually agree to him in every thing that may procure our quiet.
It is your responsibility, Most Holy Father, to interpose in this, when you see how far the violence and barbarity of the pagans is let loose to rage against Christendom for punishing of the sins of the Christians, and how much they daily encroach upon the Christian territories. And it is your interest to notice that there be no ground given for reflecting on your memory, if you should suffer any part of the Church to come under a scandal or eclipse (which we pray God may prevent) during your times. Let it therefore please Your Holiness to exhort the Christian princes not to make the wars betwixt them and their neighbours a pretext for not going to the relief of the Holy Land, since that is not the true cause of the impediment:
https://web.archive.org/web/20070529180538/http://www.arts.ed.ac.uk:80/scothist/booklets/sh1/documents-arbroath.html
26 February 2018 21:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle XML Edition by Tony Jebson and translated at the OMACL
26 February 2018 20:55
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(CKA) The Chronicle of the Kings of Alba
The Chronicle of the Kings of Alba / The Scottish Chronicle in the Poppleton Manuscript. The main source for Scottish history c.850-c.975.
So Kinadius [Kenneth] son of Alpini, first of the Scots, ruled this Pictland prosperously for 16 years [842/3-58].
Pictland was named after the Picts, whom, as we have said, Kenneth destroyed; for God deigned to make them alien from, and void of, their heritage, by reason of their wickedness; because they not only spurned the Lord's mass and precept, but also refused to be held equal to others in the law of justice.
Two years before he came to Pictland, he had received the kingdom of Dál Riata [840/1].
In the seventh year of his reign [848/9] he transported the relics of St Columba to a church that he had built.
And he invaded England six times; and he seized and burned Dunbar and Melrose. But the Britons burned Dunblane, and the Danes wasted Pictland to Clunie and Dunkeld.
He died of a tumor ultimately on 13th February, the third day of the week, in the palace of Forteviot.
Duuenaldus his brother held the kingdom for 4 years [858-62].
In his time the Gaels with their king at Forteviot made the laws of the kingdom [those of] Edi [Aed] son of Ecdach [king of Dál Riata, c. 748-778].
He died in the palace of Cinnbelachoir [apparently near Scone] on April 13th.
Constantinus son of Cinadi reigned for 16 years [862-876].
In his first year [862] Maelsechnaill king of the Irish died, and Aed son of Niel held the kingdom [of Ireland].
And after two years Amlaib [Olaf] with his Gentiles wasted Pictland, and dwelt in it from January 1st to March 17th.
Again, in his third year [866] Amlaib, drawing a hundred [ships?], was slain by Constantine.
A little while afterwards, a battle was fought by him [Constantine] in his 14th. year [875] at Dollar, between Danes and Scoti and the Scoti were slain [and driven] co Athcothlam [to Atholl]. The Northmen spent a whole year in Pictland.
Edus [Aed] held the same [kingdom] for one year [876-8]. The shortness of his reign has bequeathed nothing memorable to history. He was slain in the civitas [monastery?] of Nrurim.
And Eochodius son of Run king of the Britons [of Dumbarton], grandson of Kenneth by his daughter, reigned for 11 years [878-89]; although others say that Ciricium [Giric] son of another reigned at this time, because he became Eochaid's foster-father and guardian.
And in his second year [879] Aed son of Neil died.
And in his ninth year, on the very day of St. Cirici [Cyrus], an eclipse of the sun occurred. Eochaid and his foster father was now expelled from the kingdom.
Doniualdus son of Constantini held the kingdom for 11 years [889-900].
The Northmen wasted Pictland at this time.
In his reign a battle occurred between Danes and Scots at Innisibsolian: the Scots had victory.
He was killed at Opidum Fother [Dunottar] by the Gentiles.
Constantinus son of Edii [Aed] held the kingdom for forty years [900-940x5].
And in his 3rd year [903] the Northmen plundered Dunkeld, and all Albaniam [Alba].
In the following year the Northmen were slain in Straith hErenn [Strathearn].
And in his 6th year [905/6] king Constantine and bishop Cellach, on the Hill of Belief near the royal city of Scone, pledged themselves that the laws and disciplines of the faith, and the laws of churches and gospels, should be kept in conformity with the Scoti. From that day on the hill has deserved its name, that is, the Hill of Belief.
And in his eighth year [908] the most exalted king of the Irish and archbishop fell in Leinster, that is, Cormacc son of Culennan.
And in his time Doneualdus king of the Britons [of Strathclyde] died; and Duneualdus son of Ede [Aed] king of Ailech [Tirconnel, Co. Donegel]; and F1ann son of Maelsechnaill and Niall son of Ede who reigned for three years after Flann.
And the battle of Tinemore took place in his 18th year [918], between Constantine and Regnall [Ranald], and the Scotti had victory.
And the battle of Duinbrunde [Brunanburgh] in his 34th year [mistake for 37th, i.e. 937], and in it fell Constantine's son and after one year he died.
Dubucan son of Indrechtaig mormaer of Oengusa [Angus]; Adalstan son of Aduar [Edward]; and Eochaid son of Alpini died.
And in his old age, being decrepit, he [Constantine] took the staff [i.e. entered a monastery], and served the Lord; and he gave up the kingdom to Mael son of Domnaill.
Maelcolaim son of Domnaill reigned 11 years [940x5-54].
Maelcolam went with his army to Moreb [Moray] and killed Cellach.
In the 7th year, of his reign [949] he plundered the English as far as the river Tees, and he seized a multitude of people and many herds of cattle: and the Scots called this the raid of Albidosorum, that is, Nainndisi. But others say that Constantine made this raid, asking of the king, Maelcolaim, that the kingship should be given to him for a week's time, so that he could visit the English. In fact, it was Maelcolam who made the raid, but Constantine incited him, as I have said.
And Constantine died in [Malcolm's] 10th year [952], under the crown of penitence in good old age.
And the men na Moerne [of the Mearns] slew Malcolaim at Fetteresso, that is, in Claideom.
Idulfus [Illulb] held the kingdom for 8 years [954-62].
In his time opidum Eden [Edinburgh] was evacuated, and abandoned to the Scots until the present day.
A fleet of Somarlidiorum [Vikings] was slain in Buchan.
Niger [Dub] son of Maelcolaim reigned 5 years [962-6].
Fothach bishop [of the Scots] rested [i.e. died].
[A battle] between Nigerum [Dub] [and] Caniculum [Culen] upon the ridge of Crup in which Niger [Dub] had the victory, [and] where Duchad abbot of Dunkeld and Dubdon satrapas [mormaer] Athothlach [of the men of Atholl] fell.
Niger [Dub] was expelled from the kingdom and Caniculus [Culen] reigned for a brief time.
Domnal son of Cairill died.
Culenring [Culen hringr ?] reigned for 5 years [966-71].
Marcan son of Breodalaig was killed in the church of St. Michael [in St.Andrews]; Leot and Sluagadach went out to Rome; Bishop Maelbrigd rested [i.e. died] [and] Cellach son of Ferdalaig reigned [as Bishop of the Scots]; Maelbrigde son of Dubican died.
Culen and his brother Eochodius were killed by the Britons [of Strathclyde].
Cinadius [Kenneth] son of Maelcolaim reigned . . . years.
He immediately plundered Britain [Strathclyde] in part. Kenneth's infantry were slain with very great slaughter in Moin Uacoruar.
The Scots plundered Saxoniam [England] to Stanemore, and to Cluiam, and to the lakes of Deranni.
And Kenneth walled the banks of the fords of Forthin.
After a year, Kenneth went back and plundered Saxoniam [England] and carried off the son of the king of the Saxons [i.e. the English].
It is he who founded the great monastery of Brechin for the Lord.
Translation adapted from A.O.Anderson, Early Sources of Scottish History A.D. 500-1286 vol. i (1922). The original Latin can be found in M.O. Anderson, Kings and Kingship in Early Scotland (2nd edn, 1980), pp. 249-253.
https://web.archive.org/web/20070606150144/http://www.arts.ed.ac.uk/scothist/booklets/sh1/documents-alba.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20070604143555/http://www.arts.ed.ac.uk:80/scothist/booklets/sh1/tutorials-essays1.html#alba
The Celtic Church
New Age spirituality has found common ground with Christianity in the concept of a 'Celtic Church' which is popularly perceived as being more environment friendly and less conservative than the established Church. Within the study of Scottish history this vision of a specifically Celtic Church at odds with the papacy has its roots in modern sectarianism with Scottish Presbyterians wanting to admire the founders of their country's Christian traditions without recognising their essentially pre-Reformation, catholic identity. Nevertheless the Churches of the Insular World in the early middle ages were on the fringes of the Western tradition and from time to time exhibited peculiar features which marked them out many Continental communities. What we have to determine is whether these peculiarities represent a discrete package or whether the or whether different places and different times saw confrontation and negotiation on wholly independent issues.
Essay: Were the shared elements in the culture of the peoples of pre-Viking Age Scotland outweighed by the particular elements?
Week 3. (B) The Effects of the Vikings
From the 790s onwards Britain and Ireland were subject to attacks from Scandinavians. Sometimes these 'vikings' were simply raiders looking for loot to take home with them, at other times they were invading armies looking for territory to settle. Throughout Britain and Ireland social and political structures were transformed in the face of this unprecedented threat. What effects did these transformations have in Scotland? To what extent did the collapse of Northumbria and Pictavia a) result from viking aggression and b) lead to the creation of a New Order? Who benefited most from the chaos and who lost most?
The Chronicle of the Kings of Alba, or the Older Scottish Chronicle as it is sometimes known, is the only surviving narrative account to derive from the nascent kingdom of Scotland. It recounts the careers of the kings from Cináed mac Ailpín (d.858) to the middle of the reign of Cináed mac Maíl Choluim (971-95), and is mostly an account of internecine strife, raids on Northumbria and campaigns against the vikings. Whilst it is not a work of any great literary merit it is the only native source to the history of this period which has otherwise to be reconstructed from later fanciful poetry and chronicles or the occasional notice of 'Albanian' affairs by Irish and English chroniclers. It is thus a unique source into how the kings of Alba and their associates saw the birth of the kingdom.
Anglo-Norman Scotland
Unlike Wales, Ireland and England Scotland was not conquered by the Normans and their allies from elsewhere in the kingdom of the Franks. The country was, however, exposed to the cultural impact of 'Normanisation' through a variety of peaceful and not so peaceful interactions brought about for the most part by the personal associations of kings of Alba with individual Anglo-Norman barons and the English court. To what extent this constituted a 'conquest by stealth' or simply a progressive programme of modernisation has been hotly debated by generations of Scottish historians.
The Chronicle of the Kings of Alba / The Scottish Chronicle in the Poppleton Manuscript. The main source for Scottish history c.850-c.975.
So Kinadius [Kenneth] son of Alpini, first of the Scots, ruled this Pictland prosperously for 16 years [842/3-58].
Pictland was named after the Picts, whom, as we have said, Kenneth destroyed; for God deigned to make them alien from, and void of, their heritage, by reason of their wickedness; because they not only spurned the Lord's mass and precept, but also refused to be held equal to others in the law of justice.
Two years before he came to Pictland, he had received the kingdom of Dál Riata [840/1].
In the seventh year of his reign [848/9] he transported the relics of St Columba to a church that he had built.
And he invaded England six times; and he seized and burned Dunbar and Melrose. But the Britons burned Dunblane, and the Danes wasted Pictland to Clunie and Dunkeld.
He died of a tumor ultimately on 13th February, the third day of the week, in the palace of Forteviot.
Duuenaldus his brother held the kingdom for 4 years [858-62].
In his time the Gaels with their king at Forteviot made the laws of the kingdom [those of] Edi [Aed] son of Ecdach [king of Dál Riata, c. 748-778].
He died in the palace of Cinnbelachoir [apparently near Scone] on April 13th.
Constantinus son of Cinadi reigned for 16 years [862-876].
In his first year [862] Maelsechnaill king of the Irish died, and Aed son of Niel held the kingdom [of Ireland].
And after two years Amlaib [Olaf] with his Gentiles wasted Pictland, and dwelt in it from January 1st to March 17th.
Again, in his third year [866] Amlaib, drawing a hundred [ships?], was slain by Constantine.
A little while afterwards, a battle was fought by him [Constantine] in his 14th. year [875] at Dollar, between Danes and Scoti and the Scoti were slain [and driven] co Athcothlam [to Atholl]. The Northmen spent a whole year in Pictland.
Edus [Aed] held the same [kingdom] for one year [876-8]. The shortness of his reign has bequeathed nothing memorable to history. He was slain in the civitas [monastery?] of Nrurim.
And Eochodius son of Run king of the Britons [of Dumbarton], grandson of Kenneth by his daughter, reigned for 11 years [878-89]; although others say that Ciricium [Giric] son of another reigned at this time, because he became Eochaid's foster-father and guardian.
And in his second year [879] Aed son of Neil died.
And in his ninth year, on the very day of St. Cirici [Cyrus], an eclipse of the sun occurred. Eochaid and his foster father was now expelled from the kingdom.
Doniualdus son of Constantini held the kingdom for 11 years [889-900].
The Northmen wasted Pictland at this time.
In his reign a battle occurred between Danes and Scots at Innisibsolian: the Scots had victory.
He was killed at Opidum Fother [Dunottar] by the Gentiles.
Constantinus son of Edii [Aed] held the kingdom for forty years [900-940x5].
And in his 3rd year [903] the Northmen plundered Dunkeld, and all Albaniam [Alba].
In the following year the Northmen were slain in Straith hErenn [Strathearn].
And in his 6th year [905/6] king Constantine and bishop Cellach, on the Hill of Belief near the royal city of Scone, pledged themselves that the laws and disciplines of the faith, and the laws of churches and gospels, should be kept in conformity with the Scoti. From that day on the hill has deserved its name, that is, the Hill of Belief.
And in his eighth year [908] the most exalted king of the Irish and archbishop fell in Leinster, that is, Cormacc son of Culennan.
And in his time Doneualdus king of the Britons [of Strathclyde] died; and Duneualdus son of Ede [Aed] king of Ailech [Tirconnel, Co. Donegel]; and F1ann son of Maelsechnaill and Niall son of Ede who reigned for three years after Flann.
And the battle of Tinemore took place in his 18th year [918], between Constantine and Regnall [Ranald], and the Scotti had victory.
And the battle of Duinbrunde [Brunanburgh] in his 34th year [mistake for 37th, i.e. 937], and in it fell Constantine's son and after one year he died.
Dubucan son of Indrechtaig mormaer of Oengusa [Angus]; Adalstan son of Aduar [Edward]; and Eochaid son of Alpini died.
And in his old age, being decrepit, he [Constantine] took the staff [i.e. entered a monastery], and served the Lord; and he gave up the kingdom to Mael son of Domnaill.
Maelcolaim son of Domnaill reigned 11 years [940x5-54].
Maelcolam went with his army to Moreb [Moray] and killed Cellach.
In the 7th year, of his reign [949] he plundered the English as far as the river Tees, and he seized a multitude of people and many herds of cattle: and the Scots called this the raid of Albidosorum, that is, Nainndisi. But others say that Constantine made this raid, asking of the king, Maelcolaim, that the kingship should be given to him for a week's time, so that he could visit the English. In fact, it was Maelcolam who made the raid, but Constantine incited him, as I have said.
And Constantine died in [Malcolm's] 10th year [952], under the crown of penitence in good old age.
And the men na Moerne [of the Mearns] slew Malcolaim at Fetteresso, that is, in Claideom.
Idulfus [Illulb] held the kingdom for 8 years [954-62].
In his time opidum Eden [Edinburgh] was evacuated, and abandoned to the Scots until the present day.
A fleet of Somarlidiorum [Vikings] was slain in Buchan.
Niger [Dub] son of Maelcolaim reigned 5 years [962-6].
Fothach bishop [of the Scots] rested [i.e. died].
[A battle] between Nigerum [Dub] [and] Caniculum [Culen] upon the ridge of Crup in which Niger [Dub] had the victory, [and] where Duchad abbot of Dunkeld and Dubdon satrapas [mormaer] Athothlach [of the men of Atholl] fell.
Niger [Dub] was expelled from the kingdom and Caniculus [Culen] reigned for a brief time.
Domnal son of Cairill died.
Culenring [Culen hringr ?] reigned for 5 years [966-71].
Marcan son of Breodalaig was killed in the church of St. Michael [in St.Andrews]; Leot and Sluagadach went out to Rome; Bishop Maelbrigd rested [i.e. died] [and] Cellach son of Ferdalaig reigned [as Bishop of the Scots]; Maelbrigde son of Dubican died.
Culen and his brother Eochodius were killed by the Britons [of Strathclyde].
Cinadius [Kenneth] son of Maelcolaim reigned . . . years.
He immediately plundered Britain [Strathclyde] in part. Kenneth's infantry were slain with very great slaughter in Moin Uacoruar.
The Scots plundered Saxoniam [England] to Stanemore, and to Cluiam, and to the lakes of Deranni.
And Kenneth walled the banks of the fords of Forthin.
After a year, Kenneth went back and plundered Saxoniam [England] and carried off the son of the king of the Saxons [i.e. the English].
It is he who founded the great monastery of Brechin for the Lord.
Translation adapted from A.O.Anderson, Early Sources of Scottish History A.D. 500-1286 vol. i (1922). The original Latin can be found in M.O. Anderson, Kings and Kingship in Early Scotland (2nd edn, 1980), pp. 249-253.
https://web.archive.org/web/20070606150144/http://www.arts.ed.ac.uk/scothist/booklets/sh1/documents-alba.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20070604143555/http://www.arts.ed.ac.uk:80/scothist/booklets/sh1/tutorials-essays1.html#alba
The Celtic Church
New Age spirituality has found common ground with Christianity in the concept of a 'Celtic Church' which is popularly perceived as being more environment friendly and less conservative than the established Church. Within the study of Scottish history this vision of a specifically Celtic Church at odds with the papacy has its roots in modern sectarianism with Scottish Presbyterians wanting to admire the founders of their country's Christian traditions without recognising their essentially pre-Reformation, catholic identity. Nevertheless the Churches of the Insular World in the early middle ages were on the fringes of the Western tradition and from time to time exhibited peculiar features which marked them out many Continental communities. What we have to determine is whether these peculiarities represent a discrete package or whether the or whether different places and different times saw confrontation and negotiation on wholly independent issues.
Essay: Were the shared elements in the culture of the peoples of pre-Viking Age Scotland outweighed by the particular elements?
Week 3. (B) The Effects of the Vikings
From the 790s onwards Britain and Ireland were subject to attacks from Scandinavians. Sometimes these 'vikings' were simply raiders looking for loot to take home with them, at other times they were invading armies looking for territory to settle. Throughout Britain and Ireland social and political structures were transformed in the face of this unprecedented threat. What effects did these transformations have in Scotland? To what extent did the collapse of Northumbria and Pictavia a) result from viking aggression and b) lead to the creation of a New Order? Who benefited most from the chaos and who lost most?
The Chronicle of the Kings of Alba, or the Older Scottish Chronicle as it is sometimes known, is the only surviving narrative account to derive from the nascent kingdom of Scotland. It recounts the careers of the kings from Cináed mac Ailpín (d.858) to the middle of the reign of Cináed mac Maíl Choluim (971-95), and is mostly an account of internecine strife, raids on Northumbria and campaigns against the vikings. Whilst it is not a work of any great literary merit it is the only native source to the history of this period which has otherwise to be reconstructed from later fanciful poetry and chronicles or the occasional notice of 'Albanian' affairs by Irish and English chroniclers. It is thus a unique source into how the kings of Alba and their associates saw the birth of the kingdom.
Anglo-Norman Scotland
Unlike Wales, Ireland and England Scotland was not conquered by the Normans and their allies from elsewhere in the kingdom of the Franks. The country was, however, exposed to the cultural impact of 'Normanisation' through a variety of peaceful and not so peaceful interactions brought about for the most part by the personal associations of kings of Alba with individual Anglo-Norman barons and the English court. To what extent this constituted a 'conquest by stealth' or simply a progressive programme of modernisation has been hotly debated by generations of Scottish historians.
https://web.archive.org/web/20070606150144/http://www.arts.ed.ac.uk/scothist/booklets/sh1/documents-alba.html
26 February 2018 20:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"CELT: Corpus of Electronic Texts at University College Cork includes the Annals of Ulster, Tigernach, the Four Masters and Innisfallen, the Chronicon Scotorum, the Lebor Bretnach (which includes the Duan Albanach), Genealogies, and various Saints' Lives. Most are translated into English, or translations are in progress.
CELT is a searchable online corpus of multilingual texts of Irish literature and history with over 17 million words available, and growing. We have over 10 million requests for pages per year, and over 1500 available texts.
From 2003 to 2006 the Irish Higher Education Authority (HEA) funded the research project Linking Dictionaries and Texts (LDT) in which CELT collaborated with the University of Ulster at Coleraine. At Coleraine the Royal Irish Academy's Dictionary of the Irish Language (DIL) was transformed into electronic format. The result is called eDIL and is available here. It covers the period 700–1700. Our collaboration in LDT involved creating computer-readable links from the Dictionary's citations into CELT's online texts, and adding a large number of Old and Middle Irish texts in electronic editions, supplemented by English translations where available. This work has been finished.
From 2006 to 2011, CELT has also been encoding and editing materials written by Ireland's finest Anglo-Irish writers mostly from the 17th to 19th centuries. We would especially like to thank our funders and our dedicated group of friends and volunteers, who have helped us greatly in this effort, and are continuing to do so. We gratefully acknowledge the support of the UCC School of Arts, Celtic Studies and Social Sciences which has made this research and service possible.
In 2011 CELT published 42 texts (with a total of 700,000 words) in Irish, English and Latin to the Internet. Among CELT's English documents some have never been published in print before.
https://celt.ucc.ie/CELT_nutshell.html
In 2014 CELT published 132 multilingual texts (in Old, Middle, Classical and Early Modern Irish, English, French and German) with 570,500 words. In addition, the Galloglass Database was made available in 2014 at http://galloglass.ucc.ie/ .
CELT is a searchable online corpus of multilingual texts of Irish literature and history with over 17 million words available, and growing. We have over 10 million requests for pages per year, and over 1500 available texts.
From 2003 to 2006 the Irish Higher Education Authority (HEA) funded the research project Linking Dictionaries and Texts (LDT) in which CELT collaborated with the University of Ulster at Coleraine. At Coleraine the Royal Irish Academy's Dictionary of the Irish Language (DIL) was transformed into electronic format. The result is called eDIL and is available here. It covers the period 700–1700. Our collaboration in LDT involved creating computer-readable links from the Dictionary's citations into CELT's online texts, and adding a large number of Old and Middle Irish texts in electronic editions, supplemented by English translations where available. This work has been finished.
From 2006 to 2011, CELT has also been encoding and editing materials written by Ireland's finest Anglo-Irish writers mostly from the 17th to 19th centuries. We would especially like to thank our funders and our dedicated group of friends and volunteers, who have helped us greatly in this effort, and are continuing to do so. We gratefully acknowledge the support of the UCC School of Arts, Celtic Studies and Social Sciences which has made this research and service possible.
In 2011 CELT published 42 texts (with a total of 700,000 words) in Irish, English and Latin to the Internet. Among CELT's English documents some have never been published in print before.
https://celt.ucc.ie/CELT_nutshell.html
In 2014 CELT published 132 multilingual texts (in Old, Middle, Classical and Early Modern Irish, English, French and German) with 570,500 words. In addition, the Galloglass Database was made available in 2014 at http://galloglass.ucc.ie/ .
https://celt.ucc.ie/CELT_nutshell.html
26 February 2018 20:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Strange what has stuck in a history and what was needed to be done...
and how it play's out... and what would be if it would not be
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_I_of_Scotland
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Reign 943–954
Predecessor Constantine II
Successor Indulf
Died 954
Issue Dub, King of Scots
Kenneth II, King of Scots
House Alpin
Father Donald II, King of Scots
and how it play's out... and what would be if it would not be
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_I_of_Scotland
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Reign 943–954
Predecessor Constantine II
Successor Indulf
Died 954
Issue Dub, King of Scots
Kenneth II, King of Scots
House Alpin
Father Donald II, King of Scots
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_I_of_Scotland
26 February 2018 20:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Gruoch
Queen of Alba
Spouse Gille Coemgáin, Mormaer of Moray
Macbeth, King of Alba
Issue Lulach, King of Alba
Father Boite mac Cináeda
" Gruoch ingen Boite (fl. 1020–1054) was a Scottish queen, the daughter of Boite mac Cináeda, son of Cináed III. She is most famous for being the wife and queen of MacBethad mac Findlaích (Macbeth). The dates of her life are not certainly known.
Before 1032 Gruoch was married to Gille Coemgáin mac Maíl Brigti, Mormaer of Moray, with whom she had at least one son, Lulach mac Gille Coemgáin, later King of Scots. Gille Coemgáin was killed in 1032, burned in a hall with 50 of his men.[2] The next year one of her male relatives, probably her only brother, was murdered by Malcolm II.
Gruoch is named with Boite and also with MacBethad in charters endowing the Culdee monastery at Loch Leven.
In fiction
Gruoch is the model for the character Lady Macbeth in William Shakespeare's play Macbeth.
She is the heroine of Gordon Bottomley's 1921 verse drama "Gruach," in which the King's Envoy (i.e. Macbeth) sees her sleepwalking on the eve of her marriage to another man, falls in love with her and carries her off. The play mentions her claim to the throne.
She appears, named Groa, as a major character in Dorothy Dunnett's 1982 novel of Macbeth, King Hereafter, which topped the New York Times bestseller list.
Susan Fraser King wrote Lady Macbeth, a 1982 historical novel about Gruach. King asserts that the book is as deeply rooted in fact as possible.
Gruoch also appears as the wife of Macbeth, King of Scotland and the mother of Lulach in Jackie French's children's novel Macbeth and Son, published in 2006.
Gloria Carreño's 2009 play A Season Before the Tragedy of Macbeth premiered by British Touring Shakespeare 2010, also sheds new light on Gruach Macduff, the central character. The play considers events up to the opening of the letter from the three witches in Shakespeare's tragedy.
In David Greig's 2010 play Dunsinane, she is known as Gruach and outlives Macbeth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruoch_of_Scotland
Queen of Alba
Spouse Gille Coemgáin, Mormaer of Moray
Macbeth, King of Alba
Issue Lulach, King of Alba
Father Boite mac Cináeda
" Gruoch ingen Boite (fl. 1020–1054) was a Scottish queen, the daughter of Boite mac Cináeda, son of Cináed III. She is most famous for being the wife and queen of MacBethad mac Findlaích (Macbeth). The dates of her life are not certainly known.
Before 1032 Gruoch was married to Gille Coemgáin mac Maíl Brigti, Mormaer of Moray, with whom she had at least one son, Lulach mac Gille Coemgáin, later King of Scots. Gille Coemgáin was killed in 1032, burned in a hall with 50 of his men.[2] The next year one of her male relatives, probably her only brother, was murdered by Malcolm II.
Gruoch is named with Boite and also with MacBethad in charters endowing the Culdee monastery at Loch Leven.
In fiction
Gruoch is the model for the character Lady Macbeth in William Shakespeare's play Macbeth.
She is the heroine of Gordon Bottomley's 1921 verse drama "Gruach," in which the King's Envoy (i.e. Macbeth) sees her sleepwalking on the eve of her marriage to another man, falls in love with her and carries her off. The play mentions her claim to the throne.
She appears, named Groa, as a major character in Dorothy Dunnett's 1982 novel of Macbeth, King Hereafter, which topped the New York Times bestseller list.
Susan Fraser King wrote Lady Macbeth, a 1982 historical novel about Gruach. King asserts that the book is as deeply rooted in fact as possible.
Gruoch also appears as the wife of Macbeth, King of Scotland and the mother of Lulach in Jackie French's children's novel Macbeth and Son, published in 2006.
Gloria Carreño's 2009 play A Season Before the Tragedy of Macbeth premiered by British Touring Shakespeare 2010, also sheds new light on Gruach Macduff, the central character. The play considers events up to the opening of the letter from the three witches in Shakespeare's tragedy.
In David Greig's 2010 play Dunsinane, she is known as Gruach and outlives Macbeth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruoch_of_Scotland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruoch_of_Scotland
26 February 2018 20:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"In Holinshed's account of King Duncan, the discussion of Lady Macbeth is confined to a single sentence:
"The words of the three Weird Sisters also (of whom before ye have heard) greatly encouraged him hereunto; but specially his wife lay sore upon him to attempt the thing, as she was very ambitious, burning with an unquenchable desire to bear the name of a queen."
Not found in Holinshed are the invocation to the "spirits that tend on mortal thoughts," the sleepwalking scene, and various details found in the drama concerning the death of Macbeth.
Although Macbeth's wife can be traced to a real-world counterpart, Queen Gruoch of Scotland, Shakespeare's fictional character is tied so weakly to her that the bonds are virtually non-existent
http://www.shakespeare-navigators.com/macbeth/Holinshed/Holin269.html
"The words of the three Weird Sisters also (of whom before ye have heard) greatly encouraged him hereunto; but specially his wife lay sore upon him to attempt the thing, as she was very ambitious, burning with an unquenchable desire to bear the name of a queen."
Not found in Holinshed are the invocation to the "spirits that tend on mortal thoughts," the sleepwalking scene, and various details found in the drama concerning the death of Macbeth.
Although Macbeth's wife can be traced to a real-world counterpart, Queen Gruoch of Scotland, Shakespeare's fictional character is tied so weakly to her that the bonds are virtually non-existent
http://www.shakespeare-navigators.com/macbeth/Holinshed/Holin269.html
http://www.shakespeare-navigators.com/macbeth/Holinshed/Holin269.html
26 February 2018 20:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The wife of the play's tragic hero, Macbeth (a Scottish nobleman), Lady Macbeth goads her husband into committing regicide, after which she becomes queen of Scotlan"
"According to some genealogists, Lady Macbeth and King Duncan's wife were siblings or cousins, where Duncan's wife had a stronger claim to the throne than Lady Macbeth. It was this that incited her jealousy and hatred of Duncan.
The character's origins lie of the accounts of Kings Duff and Duncan in Holinshed's Chronicles (1587), a history of Britain familiar to Shakespeare. Shakespeare's Lady Macbeth appears to be a composite of two separate and distinct personages in Holinshed's work: Donwald's nagging, murderous wife in the account of King Duff and Macbeth's ambitious wife Gruoch of Scotland in the account of King Duncan.
Lady Macbeth is a powerful presence in the play, most notably in the first two acts. Following the murder of King Duncan, however, her role in the plot diminishes. She becomes an uninvolved spectator to Macbeth's plotting and a nervous hostess at a banquet dominated by her husband's hallucinations. Her sleepwalking scene in the fifth act is a turning point in the play, and her line "Out, damned spot!" has become a phrase familiar to many speakers of the English language. The report of her death late in the fifth act provides the inspiration for Macbeth's "Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow" speech.
Analysts see in the character of Lady Macbeth the conflict between femininity and masculinity as they are impressed in cultural norms. Lady Macbeth suppresses her instincts toward compassion, motherhood, and fragility — associated with femininity — in favour of ambition, ruthlessness, and the singleminded pursuit of power. This conflict colours the entire drama and sheds light on gender-based preconceptions from Shakespearean England to the present.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Macbeth
"According to some genealogists, Lady Macbeth and King Duncan's wife were siblings or cousins, where Duncan's wife had a stronger claim to the throne than Lady Macbeth. It was this that incited her jealousy and hatred of Duncan.
The character's origins lie of the accounts of Kings Duff and Duncan in Holinshed's Chronicles (1587), a history of Britain familiar to Shakespeare. Shakespeare's Lady Macbeth appears to be a composite of two separate and distinct personages in Holinshed's work: Donwald's nagging, murderous wife in the account of King Duff and Macbeth's ambitious wife Gruoch of Scotland in the account of King Duncan.
Lady Macbeth is a powerful presence in the play, most notably in the first two acts. Following the murder of King Duncan, however, her role in the plot diminishes. She becomes an uninvolved spectator to Macbeth's plotting and a nervous hostess at a banquet dominated by her husband's hallucinations. Her sleepwalking scene in the fifth act is a turning point in the play, and her line "Out, damned spot!" has become a phrase familiar to many speakers of the English language. The report of her death late in the fifth act provides the inspiration for Macbeth's "Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow" speech.
Analysts see in the character of Lady Macbeth the conflict between femininity and masculinity as they are impressed in cultural norms. Lady Macbeth suppresses her instincts toward compassion, motherhood, and fragility — associated with femininity — in favour of ambition, ruthlessness, and the singleminded pursuit of power. This conflict colours the entire drama and sheds light on gender-based preconceptions from Shakespearean England to the present.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Macbeth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Macbeth
26 February 2018 20:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Leskov's story inspired an opera of the same name by Dmitri Shostakovich, ballet Lady Macbeth '77 (Katarina Izmailova) by Yugoslav composer Rudolf Brucci, the 1962 Polish film by Andrzej Wajda, Sibirska Ledi Magbet (Siberian Lady Macbeth), and the 2016 British film by William Oldroyd, Lady Macbeth.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4291600/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4291600/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4291600/
26 February 2018 20:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kelle luule muidu liialt motlema võtab enne tundmist
26 February 2018 04:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
@ anna õpetust ja uuri juur ka ühendades kareva ümbrise
intellektuaalhiiglaste luulesse
intellektuaalhiiglaste luulesse
26 February 2018 04:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kud põhjalas kuid vaata, et kunagi viisnurkakogemattta ei kanna keegi kuskil enam ega mutsiga eetris viisakuse mõttes, õpetajastaatuses oled ju, siis,... või saavad nii level mehed anda teada, võttes mütsi või mitte, näidates kui "stuudio" see on kus nad on, "siseruum"i mõttes või kui "respect päris" inimestega tegu,
mats mütsi igaüheees ka ei võta, omade ja asutsväärsetega kokkupuutel aga ikka, kui sobilik
mats mütsi igaüheees ka ei võta, omade ja asutsväärsetega kokkupuutel aga ikka, kui sobilik
26 February 2018 04:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Okey, uurides, et umbes 50 000 tonni polevkivi tuues,
saab küll kiiresti, 18 päevaga Venetzuelast Eestisse, kuid maksma läheks u 2.3 millionit.
33 daala MT kohta,
... kui aga törts 3500 tonni tuua, polevkivi ntex,
siis see läheks maksma 335 000 maksma, 87MT kohta.
Muidugi neil hindadel pole lopliku arusaamaga palju pistmist, kui vedelat kütust saakski tuua, ja siis kui need maksud maksma peaks.....
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muidugi 50 000 tonni tuues, euroga liiter müües tuleks ka u 50 millionit eurot...(kui vedeliku hinnad paika peaks.. huvitav olek smuidugi teoreetiliselt välja, arvutada, et kui rentida need laevad, kas suuresplaanis, saaks rikkaks ja oleks samas võimalik rahvast ka aidata, kui tankeri jms alustuse jaoks oleks üle 5 milli alustsuseks käiku võimlaik panna...muidgi mis se laeva - tankeri päeva rent veel maksab.. selle kütus ja... nu kuid kui iga kuu 15 milligi teenida oleks asjaks ikka kui suuured bossid lubaks.).
Kuid yah, kellel reaalsemad numbrid käeprast, andke teada.
https://www.searates.com/reference/portdistance/?A=ChIJAdjLNstTKIwR003VfFjyoNw&K=ChIJ_UuggpyUkkYRwyW0T7qf6kA&D=19754&G=23547&shipment=6&category=4&wagon=FW&product=0&weight=1&volume=1&lenght=100&width=100&height=100&weight_unit=KG&volume_unit=CBM&container-type=20st&rail-etngs=&rail-gng=&bulk-weight=3450&stowage-factor=undefined&stowage-factor-unit=undefined&mode=&tr_a=rail&tr_k=rail&
saab küll kiiresti, 18 päevaga Venetzuelast Eestisse, kuid maksma läheks u 2.3 millionit.
33 daala MT kohta,
... kui aga törts 3500 tonni tuua, polevkivi ntex,
siis see läheks maksma 335 000 maksma, 87MT kohta.
Muidugi neil hindadel pole lopliku arusaamaga palju pistmist, kui vedelat kütust saakski tuua, ja siis kui need maksud maksma peaks.....
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muidugi 50 000 tonni tuues, euroga liiter müües tuleks ka u 50 millionit eurot...(kui vedeliku hinnad paika peaks.. huvitav olek smuidugi teoreetiliselt välja, arvutada, et kui rentida need laevad, kas suuresplaanis, saaks rikkaks ja oleks samas võimalik rahvast ka aidata, kui tankeri jms alustuse jaoks oleks üle 5 milli alustsuseks käiku võimlaik panna...muidgi mis se laeva - tankeri päeva rent veel maksab.. selle kütus ja... nu kuid kui iga kuu 15 milligi teenida oleks asjaks ikka kui suuured bossid lubaks.).
Kuid yah, kellel reaalsemad numbrid käeprast, andke teada.
https://www.searates.com/reference/portdistance/?A=ChIJAdjLNstTKIwR003VfFjyoNw&K=ChIJ_UuggpyUkkYRwyW0T7qf6kA&D=19754&G=23547&shipment=6&category=4&wagon=FW&product=0&weight=1&volume=1&lenght=100&width=100&height=100&weight_unit=KG&volume_unit=CBM&container-type=20st&rail-etngs=&rail-gng=&bulk-weight=3450&stowage-factor=undefined&stowage-factor-unit=undefined&mode=&tr_a=rail&tr_k=rail&
https://www.searates.com/reference/portdistance/?A=ChIJAdjLNstTKIwR003VfFjyoNw&K=ChIJ_UuggpyUkkYRwyW0T7qf6kA&D=19754&G=23547&shipment=6&category=4&wagon=FW&product=0&weight=1&volume=1&lenght=100&width=100&height=100&weight_unit=KG&volume_unit=CBM&container-type=20st&rail-etngs=&rail-gng=&bulk-weight=3450&stowage-factor=undefined&stowage-factor-unit=undefined&mode=&tr_a=rail&tr_k=rail
26 February 2018 01:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So if gold-diggers wanna really make money,
then open up roads to sale gasoline from Venezuela to Colombia or Guyana
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Nu kui hästi lapsikult mõelda, siis väike eesti Vedrey Tora tanker 3500 tonni mahutavusega, (sellist tõrtsu keegi ei hakka tooma üle ookeani, aga nu arvutuseks)..selle täidas väikse allahindlusega 50 000 euro eest & euroga siin edasi muüües saaks 3.5 millionit eurot.
Kui vaid poleks limitatsioone veidaid eks, et mida keegi võib kust poolt maailma osta ja mida ei või edasi müüa...
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"Supertankers" are the largest tankers, including very large crude carriers (VLCC) and ULCCs with capacities over 250,000 DWT. These ships can transport 2,000,000 barrels (320,000 m3) of oil/318,000 metric tons.[43] By way of comparison, the United Kingdom consumed about 1.6 million barrels (250,000 m3) of oil per day in 2009.[45] ULCCs, commissioned in the 1970s, were the largest vessels ever built, but the longest ones have already been scrapped. By 2013 only a few ULCCs remain in service, none of which are more than 400 meters long.
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The average one-year time charter rate for a 5-year-old tanker of 280,000 metric tons of deadweight varied from $56,500 per day in December 2005 to $53,000 per day in September 2007 with a high of $64,500 per day in September 2006.[57]
The first half of 2007 was relatively strong, but in the second half rates dropped significantly. A sudden rise in oil production, longer transport routes, and slow steaming because of high bunker prices led to a shortage in tonnage towards the end of the year. Overnight, VLCC rates climbed from $20,000 per day to $200–$300,000 per day, and even higher numbers were recorded.
then open up roads to sale gasoline from Venezuela to Colombia or Guyana
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Nu kui hästi lapsikult mõelda, siis väike eesti Vedrey Tora tanker 3500 tonni mahutavusega, (sellist tõrtsu keegi ei hakka tooma üle ookeani, aga nu arvutuseks)..selle täidas väikse allahindlusega 50 000 euro eest & euroga siin edasi muüües saaks 3.5 millionit eurot.
Kui vaid poleks limitatsioone veidaid eks, et mida keegi võib kust poolt maailma osta ja mida ei või edasi müüa...
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"Supertankers" are the largest tankers, including very large crude carriers (VLCC) and ULCCs with capacities over 250,000 DWT. These ships can transport 2,000,000 barrels (320,000 m3) of oil/318,000 metric tons.[43] By way of comparison, the United Kingdom consumed about 1.6 million barrels (250,000 m3) of oil per day in 2009.[45] ULCCs, commissioned in the 1970s, were the largest vessels ever built, but the longest ones have already been scrapped. By 2013 only a few ULCCs remain in service, none of which are more than 400 meters long.
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The average one-year time charter rate for a 5-year-old tanker of 280,000 metric tons of deadweight varied from $56,500 per day in December 2005 to $53,000 per day in September 2007 with a high of $64,500 per day in September 2006.[57]
The first half of 2007 was relatively strong, but in the second half rates dropped significantly. A sudden rise in oil production, longer transport routes, and slow steaming because of high bunker prices led to a shortage in tonnage towards the end of the year. Overnight, VLCC rates climbed from $20,000 per day to $200–$300,000 per day, and even higher numbers were recorded.
26 February 2018 01:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
" Given the low price of gasoline, it is distributed free of charge to gas stations
Venezuela. Today, PDVSA, Venezuelan state-owned company, spends US$1.7 billion in direct costs of importation of gasoline, and subsidizes all sales of gasoline in the internal Venezuelan market. The sale price of gasoline is US$0.015 per liter, on a fixed price in the local currency that has been in effect since 1997."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_and_diesel_usage_and_pricing#Countries_with_subsidised_gasoline
Venezuela. Today, PDVSA, Venezuelan state-owned company, spends US$1.7 billion in direct costs of importation of gasoline, and subsidizes all sales of gasoline in the internal Venezuelan market. The sale price of gasoline is US$0.015 per liter, on a fixed price in the local currency that has been in effect since 1997."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_and_diesel_usage_and_pricing#Countries_with_subsidised_gasoline
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_and_diesel_usage_and_pricing#Countries_with_subsidised_gasoline
26 February 2018 01:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mehwish Qayum eventually, same thing : )
25 February 2018 21:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
25 February 2018 21:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Ihsan (Arabic: إحسان ʾiḥsān, also Romanized ehsan), is an Arabic term meaning "perfection" or "excellence" (Ara. husn). It is a matter of taking one's inner faith (iman) and showing it in both deed and action, a sense of social responsibility borne from religious convictions.[1] In Islam, ihsan is the Muslim responsibility to obtain perfection, or excellence, in worship, such that Muslims try to worship God as if they see him, and although they cannot see him, they undoubtedly believe that he is constantly watching over them. That definition comes from the Hadith of Gabriel in which Muhammad states, "[Ihsan is] to worship God as though you see Him, and if you cannot see Him, then indeed He sees you". (Al-Bukhari and Al-Muslim).[2]
Ihsan, meaning "to do beautiful things", is one of the three dimensions of the Islamic religion (Ara. ad-din): islam, iman and ihsan. In contrast to the emphases of islam (what one should do) and iman (why one should do), the concept of ihsan is primarily associated with intention. One who "does what is beautiful" is called a muhsin. It is generally held that a person can only achieve true ihsan with the help and guidance of God, who governs all things. While traditionally Islamic jurists have concentrated on Islam and theologians on Iman, the Sufis have focused their attention on Ihsan.[3]
Some Islamic scholars explain ihsan as being the inner dimension of Islam whereas shariah is often described as the outer dimension:
From the preceding discussion it should be clear that not every Muslim is a man or woman of faith (mu'min), but every person of faith is a muslim. Furthermore, a Muslim who believes in all the principles of Islam may not necessarily be a righteous person, a doer of good (muhsin), but a truly good and righteous person is both a muslim and a true person of faith.[4]
Ihsan "constitutes the highest form of worship" (ibadah)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihsan
Ihsan, meaning "to do beautiful things", is one of the three dimensions of the Islamic religion (Ara. ad-din): islam, iman and ihsan. In contrast to the emphases of islam (what one should do) and iman (why one should do), the concept of ihsan is primarily associated with intention. One who "does what is beautiful" is called a muhsin. It is generally held that a person can only achieve true ihsan with the help and guidance of God, who governs all things. While traditionally Islamic jurists have concentrated on Islam and theologians on Iman, the Sufis have focused their attention on Ihsan.[3]
Some Islamic scholars explain ihsan as being the inner dimension of Islam whereas shariah is often described as the outer dimension:
From the preceding discussion it should be clear that not every Muslim is a man or woman of faith (mu'min), but every person of faith is a muslim. Furthermore, a Muslim who believes in all the principles of Islam may not necessarily be a righteous person, a doer of good (muhsin), but a truly good and righteous person is both a muslim and a true person of faith.[4]
Ihsan "constitutes the highest form of worship" (ibadah)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihsan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihsan
25 February 2018 21:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja siis samas suudad neid laule suha võtta.. ja siis teed sellist tööd.. kuidas selle patuga toime tuled?
See kes on närakas, temael on rohkem lubatud, Aatetes usaldatutele aga kehtivad teised reeglid ja karmimad karistused,
vahest ka suurimad andestused, kuid..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hDhIT9d8_4
See kes on närakas, temael on rohkem lubatud, Aatetes usaldatutele aga kehtivad teised reeglid ja karmimad karistused,
vahest ka suurimad andestused, kuid..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hDhIT9d8_4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hDhIT9d8_4
25 February 2018 20:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui Sul head silmad ning aravatavasti vanemate pärand.. head sõbrad poleks..
siis oleks hoopis pahemad nodid teele saatnud
Loodan, et saad õgele teele, kirjutad avaliku ja privaatse vabanduskirja Kerstile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LNNa1lUANk
//ei sõnavabdadus vaimunüristavale demogoogiale ei laiene
siis oleks hoopis pahemad nodid teele saatnud
Loodan, et saad õgele teele, kirjutad avaliku ja privaatse vabanduskirja Kerstile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LNNa1lUANk
//ei sõnavabdadus vaimunüristavale demogoogiale ei laiene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LNNa1lUANk
25 February 2018 20:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mõtle mille osas ilgud ja kelle vastu astud, Valdo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPKmbNUAuPY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPKmbNUAuPY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPKmbNUAuPY
25 February 2018 20:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Tallinn.USSR.
Tiina Hallik, pikk ja punapäine, kahe NSVL kommunistliku partei liikme tütar, nõuab ei vähemat kui nõukogude võimu kukutamist Eestis ning sõltumatu Eesti Vabariigi loomist – või nagu mõned ütleksid – taastamist.
Tema ema, Klara Hallik, silmapaistev sotsioloog ning rahvussuhete spetsialist, on diametraalselt opositsioonis oma tütrega. Tema usub, et natsionalismi avaldumine on suhteliselt tähtsusetu, mille on hüsteeriliseks kergitanud lääne sepitsused.
Ema ja tütar on läinud erinevaid teid selles ligi 500 000 elanikuga 12.sajandist pärit sadamalinnas. Eelmisel nädalal muutusid nende elud vastuoluliseks.
Kättemaksu dissidentidele laiendati nende sõpradele ja sugulastele - Tiina natsionalistliku tegevuse eest vallandati tema ema, Klara Hallik, 55, töölt ülikoolist, kus ta töötas õppejõuna.
Konflikt Hallikute perekonnas oli osaliselt põhjustatud rahvustunnete avaliku väljendamise eest Eestis, Lätis ja Leedus, kolmes Balti riigis, mis annekteeriti Nõukogude liidu poolt 1940.aastal peale 22 aastast vabadust....../demonstratsioone-võimude poolt illegaalseks nimetatud- on homme plaanitud teha Vilniuses, Leedu pealinnas ja 24. veebruaril Tallinnas grupi poolt, kes nõuab Balti riikide sõltumatuse taastamist.
Augustis peeti demonstratsioone Eestis ja ka naabermaades, et märkida Natsi-Nõukogude pakti 48.aastapäeva.
7. novembril kogunes Pärnu surnuaial üle 2000 inimese, nõudes vabadussõja veterandie monumendi taastamist, mis oli hävitatud nõukogude võimu poolt peale II maailmasõda.
Need tegevused viisid represserioonideni alates mõnitustest, kiusamistest ja läbiotsimistest kuni arreteerimiste, vangistuste ja sunnitud väljasaatmisteni.
Eelmisel kuul toimunud Eesti Kommunistliku Partei Keskkomitee istungil vallandati ideoloogiajuht “toimetulematuse eest rahvusliku natsionalismi ilmingute kontrollimisel,” nagu kirjutab Pravda.
1.veebruaril arreteeriti eesti rahvuslane Sivert Zoldin “riigivastaste lendlehtede levitamise eest”
Laupäeval pandi lennukisse liikumise juht Vello Väärtnõu ja saadeti sundkorras Rootsi../ ,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Kaks päeva peale vallandamist istub Klara Hallik Viru Hotelli konverentsiruumis koos teiste õppejõudude ja kirjanikega, diskuteerides koos grupi välisajakirjanikega teemal natsionalism Eestis.
Tema elu on muutunud, kuid mitte tema vaated. ”Natsionalism ei ole meie vabariigi peamine probleem” ütleb Hallik. Ta ei maininud kordagi probleemi, mida see talle oli põhjustanud.
Konverents oli organiseeritud pressiagentuur Novosti poolt välisajakirjanikele, et näidata neile: natsionalistlikud väljaastumised olid vaid väikesed segadused, organiseeritud nende poolt, kes tahavad perestroikat, nõukogude ühiskonna uutmist, takistada.
Vastates küsimusele “kui ekstremistlikud ideed võiksid saada enam populaarseks, kas see lööks perestroika vankuma”, ütles Hallik: ”Kui perestroika on halvas seisus, siis mitte ainult rahvuslikud suhted vaid kogu ühiskond satub traagilisse olukorda”"
Tiina Hallik, pikk ja punapäine, kahe NSVL kommunistliku partei liikme tütar, nõuab ei vähemat kui nõukogude võimu kukutamist Eestis ning sõltumatu Eesti Vabariigi loomist – või nagu mõned ütleksid – taastamist.
Tema ema, Klara Hallik, silmapaistev sotsioloog ning rahvussuhete spetsialist, on diametraalselt opositsioonis oma tütrega. Tema usub, et natsionalismi avaldumine on suhteliselt tähtsusetu, mille on hüsteeriliseks kergitanud lääne sepitsused.
Ema ja tütar on läinud erinevaid teid selles ligi 500 000 elanikuga 12.sajandist pärit sadamalinnas. Eelmisel nädalal muutusid nende elud vastuoluliseks.
Kättemaksu dissidentidele laiendati nende sõpradele ja sugulastele - Tiina natsionalistliku tegevuse eest vallandati tema ema, Klara Hallik, 55, töölt ülikoolist, kus ta töötas õppejõuna.
Konflikt Hallikute perekonnas oli osaliselt põhjustatud rahvustunnete avaliku väljendamise eest Eestis, Lätis ja Leedus, kolmes Balti riigis, mis annekteeriti Nõukogude liidu poolt 1940.aastal peale 22 aastast vabadust....../demonstratsioone-võimude poolt illegaalseks nimetatud- on homme plaanitud teha Vilniuses, Leedu pealinnas ja 24. veebruaril Tallinnas grupi poolt, kes nõuab Balti riikide sõltumatuse taastamist.
Augustis peeti demonstratsioone Eestis ja ka naabermaades, et märkida Natsi-Nõukogude pakti 48.aastapäeva.
7. novembril kogunes Pärnu surnuaial üle 2000 inimese, nõudes vabadussõja veterandie monumendi taastamist, mis oli hävitatud nõukogude võimu poolt peale II maailmasõda.
Need tegevused viisid represserioonideni alates mõnitustest, kiusamistest ja läbiotsimistest kuni arreteerimiste, vangistuste ja sunnitud väljasaatmisteni.
Eelmisel kuul toimunud Eesti Kommunistliku Partei Keskkomitee istungil vallandati ideoloogiajuht “toimetulematuse eest rahvusliku natsionalismi ilmingute kontrollimisel,” nagu kirjutab Pravda.
1.veebruaril arreteeriti eesti rahvuslane Sivert Zoldin “riigivastaste lendlehtede levitamise eest”
Laupäeval pandi lennukisse liikumise juht Vello Väärtnõu ja saadeti sundkorras Rootsi../ ,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Kaks päeva peale vallandamist istub Klara Hallik Viru Hotelli konverentsiruumis koos teiste õppejõudude ja kirjanikega, diskuteerides koos grupi välisajakirjanikega teemal natsionalism Eestis.
Tema elu on muutunud, kuid mitte tema vaated. ”Natsionalism ei ole meie vabariigi peamine probleem” ütleb Hallik. Ta ei maininud kordagi probleemi, mida see talle oli põhjustanud.
Konverents oli organiseeritud pressiagentuur Novosti poolt välisajakirjanikele, et näidata neile: natsionalistlikud väljaastumised olid vaid väikesed segadused, organiseeritud nende poolt, kes tahavad perestroikat, nõukogude ühiskonna uutmist, takistada.
Vastates küsimusele “kui ekstremistlikud ideed võiksid saada enam populaarseks, kas see lööks perestroika vankuma”, ütles Hallik: ”Kui perestroika on halvas seisus, siis mitte ainult rahvuslikud suhted vaid kogu ühiskond satub traagilisse olukorda”"
25 February 2018 20:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid muidu... võtnud varakumalt mõõtu siis nendest, eridimensioonilisest ka poolepeal olijatest, kes ikkagi midagi muud ka tegid...
"Tiina, keda oli varem informeeritud ametlikust pressikonverentsist, ütles, vaid et tema arvates ema oli ebakindel, kuidas väljendada oma kibestumist. “Ta ütles mulle: ” Olen töötanud 32 aastat ning kogu aeg olen ma rääkinud, et kogu maal on kõik asjad hästi ja ma olen püüdnud neid teha paremaks. Nüüd nad ütlevad, et ma olen eikeegi,”
Päev enne, kui ema vallandati, kutsus tema isa Raimond, kohaliku ametiühingu esimees, Tiina enda juurde ning hoiatas, et kui ta jätkab edasi nn. “nende asjadega”,siis ta teatab avalikult, et Tiina ei ole enam tema tütar.
“Detsembris oli Raimond Hallikut üle kuulatud KGB poolt, kuna tütar üritavat saada allkirju vaba Eestit nõudvale petitsioonile.”, ütles Tiina.
“Ma ei ole elanud kodus üle kahe aasta,” ütles Tiina ”ja asjad minu perekonnas ei ole olnud normaalsed. Mu vanemad ütlesid, et nad tegid kõik, et minust saaks korralik nõukogude kodanik. Nad ise on korralikud kodanikud”
“Täna käisin ma Tallinna Polütehnilise Instituudi rektori juures, kus mu ema töötas”, räägib Tiina ja ta silmanurka veereb pisar. “Ma küsisin , et kas on normaalne, et mu ema represseeritakse selle eest, mida mina teen. Ema ütles, et nii käib see igal pool maailmas.”
Ema ja tütar ei ole sündmuse tõttu lähedasemaks saanud. Kuid Klara Hallik võib jõuda arusaamisele, et rahvuslus on Eestis palju olulisem jõud kui ta arvas.
Tiina Hallik ja ta sõbrad räägivad vene keelt vastumeelselt, kuid nad tsiteerivad meelsasti üht tuntud ütelust:” Seadus on nagu koogud härja kaelas” ütleb vanasõna ”kuhu neid keerad, seda teed ta ka läheb”
The Philadelphia Inquirer. Monday, February 15, 1988 "
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"Hilisel õhtutunnil avas koputus aknale ukse Koidu tänava puumaja, pimedas rajoonis, kilomeetreid kesklinnast eemal.
Ülerahvastatud korteris, mis oli läbi otsitud eelmisel päeval KGB poolt, et leida vastuhakkamist tõendavaid materjale, kohtus Tiina Hallik teiste ERSP liikmetega, et planeerida nõukogude võimu vastast väljaastumist.
Demonstratsioon on planeeritud 24.veebruariks et märkida Eesti Vabariigi 70.aastapäeva. Kutseid, millel oli sini-must-valge eesti vabaduselipp, levitati kõikjal linnas.
Küsiti ka ametlikku luba avalikuks kogunemiseks, kuid saades selle avalduse, ametivõimud keeldusid luba andmast.
Tol õhtul oli kohal 10 inimest ning vaid 14 inimest olid kirjutanud alla partei loomise ettepanekule, kuid kohalolijad väidavad, et kaasamõtlejaid on enam.
Üks neist ütleb, et “meie jaoks on see suur asi alla kirjutada, sest keegi ei tea mis juhtub temaga homme.
”Inimesed on nii sissepoole pöördunud, et nad ei väljenda oma vaateid,” sõnas teine”kui nad saaksid vabalt väljenduda, ma arvan, et 95% eestlastest soovib vabadust.”
Grupp ütleb, et nad teeksid pea kõike, et vähendada vägivalda Eesti vabaduse saavutamisel. Kuus neist on juba vangistatud mõneks ajaks ning nad ei soovi vabatahtlikult emigreeruda, et liituda rahvuskaaslastega, kes elavad välismaa"
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http://www.estoniannyingmaencyclopedia.com/est/index.php/Natsionalism_lahutab_Eestit_ja_perekonda
"Tiina, keda oli varem informeeritud ametlikust pressikonverentsist, ütles, vaid et tema arvates ema oli ebakindel, kuidas väljendada oma kibestumist. “Ta ütles mulle: ” Olen töötanud 32 aastat ning kogu aeg olen ma rääkinud, et kogu maal on kõik asjad hästi ja ma olen püüdnud neid teha paremaks. Nüüd nad ütlevad, et ma olen eikeegi,”
Päev enne, kui ema vallandati, kutsus tema isa Raimond, kohaliku ametiühingu esimees, Tiina enda juurde ning hoiatas, et kui ta jätkab edasi nn. “nende asjadega”,siis ta teatab avalikult, et Tiina ei ole enam tema tütar.
“Detsembris oli Raimond Hallikut üle kuulatud KGB poolt, kuna tütar üritavat saada allkirju vaba Eestit nõudvale petitsioonile.”, ütles Tiina.
“Ma ei ole elanud kodus üle kahe aasta,” ütles Tiina ”ja asjad minu perekonnas ei ole olnud normaalsed. Mu vanemad ütlesid, et nad tegid kõik, et minust saaks korralik nõukogude kodanik. Nad ise on korralikud kodanikud”
“Täna käisin ma Tallinna Polütehnilise Instituudi rektori juures, kus mu ema töötas”, räägib Tiina ja ta silmanurka veereb pisar. “Ma küsisin , et kas on normaalne, et mu ema represseeritakse selle eest, mida mina teen. Ema ütles, et nii käib see igal pool maailmas.”
Ema ja tütar ei ole sündmuse tõttu lähedasemaks saanud. Kuid Klara Hallik võib jõuda arusaamisele, et rahvuslus on Eestis palju olulisem jõud kui ta arvas.
Tiina Hallik ja ta sõbrad räägivad vene keelt vastumeelselt, kuid nad tsiteerivad meelsasti üht tuntud ütelust:” Seadus on nagu koogud härja kaelas” ütleb vanasõna ”kuhu neid keerad, seda teed ta ka läheb”
The Philadelphia Inquirer. Monday, February 15, 1988 "
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"Hilisel õhtutunnil avas koputus aknale ukse Koidu tänava puumaja, pimedas rajoonis, kilomeetreid kesklinnast eemal.
Ülerahvastatud korteris, mis oli läbi otsitud eelmisel päeval KGB poolt, et leida vastuhakkamist tõendavaid materjale, kohtus Tiina Hallik teiste ERSP liikmetega, et planeerida nõukogude võimu vastast väljaastumist.
Demonstratsioon on planeeritud 24.veebruariks et märkida Eesti Vabariigi 70.aastapäeva. Kutseid, millel oli sini-must-valge eesti vabaduselipp, levitati kõikjal linnas.
Küsiti ka ametlikku luba avalikuks kogunemiseks, kuid saades selle avalduse, ametivõimud keeldusid luba andmast.
Tol õhtul oli kohal 10 inimest ning vaid 14 inimest olid kirjutanud alla partei loomise ettepanekule, kuid kohalolijad väidavad, et kaasamõtlejaid on enam.
Üks neist ütleb, et “meie jaoks on see suur asi alla kirjutada, sest keegi ei tea mis juhtub temaga homme.
”Inimesed on nii sissepoole pöördunud, et nad ei väljenda oma vaateid,” sõnas teine”kui nad saaksid vabalt väljenduda, ma arvan, et 95% eestlastest soovib vabadust.”
Grupp ütleb, et nad teeksid pea kõike, et vähendada vägivalda Eesti vabaduse saavutamisel. Kuus neist on juba vangistatud mõneks ajaks ning nad ei soovi vabatahtlikult emigreeruda, et liituda rahvuskaaslastega, kes elavad välismaa"
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http://www.estoniannyingmaencyclopedia.com/est/index.php/Natsionalism_lahutab_Eestit_ja_perekonda
http://www.estoniannyingmaencyclopedia.com/est/index.php/Natsionalism_lahutab_Eestit_ja_perekonda
25 February 2018 20:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid pole hullu..nagu Su tööandja ütles, läbi Vasiili: "Küll me Sulle päitsed pähepaneme"
..ja nagu kui savisaar hoiatas Petsi valenaljaeest, ja Pets häbile olenemata, pidi avalikult liituma keskomiteeerakonnaga, siis tuletatakse ka Sulle varsti meelde, kes Su tegelik leivaisa on,
kaua sa neid Reforme ikka õõnestad,
oma meeldivalt sharmika vanemate vaimu ja targa maheda keele ning demagoogiaga
..ja nagu kui savisaar hoiatas Petsi valenaljaeest, ja Pets häbile olenemata, pidi avalikult liituma keskomiteeerakonnaga, siis tuletatakse ka Sulle varsti meelde, kes Su tegelik leivaisa on,
kaua sa neid Reforme ikka õõnestad,
oma meeldivalt sharmika vanemate vaimu ja targa maheda keele ning demagoogiaga
25 February 2018 19:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
igor gräzin koraks sai mõistuse pähe ja nüüd uus propakanda apelmann, veelgi proffessionaalsem asemel
25 February 2018 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Ta oli ametis ELKNÜ Keskkomitee propaganda- ja kultuuriosakonna instruktorina"
..anujah, millest me räägine
"1984. aasta augustis välismaal viibides jättis ta koos abikaasa Leila Milleriga Nõukogude Liitu naasmata ja asus elama Rootsi. Eestisse jäi nende 1-aastane tütar Kaisa Randpere, keda nad alles rohkem kui kahe aasta pärast uuesti nägid..."
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELKNÜ_Keskkomitee
"Eestimaa Leninliku Kommunistliku Noorsooühingu Keskkomitee (vene keeles ЦК Ленинского коммунистического союза молодежи Эстонии) oli Eesti NSV ainupartei EKP noorsoo-organisatsiooni ELKNÜ kongressidel valitav juhtorgan, mis tegutses aastail 1940–1941 ja 1944–1990.
ELNKÜ KK asus alates 1976. aastast J. Kreuksi tänav 20, Tallinnas.
ELKNÜ Keskkomitee põhiülesanneteks oli:
poliitiline ja organisatsiooniline töö noorsoo hulgas, tema mobiliseerimine
ja
idelise kasvatustöö ja massilise kultuuritöö organiseerimine noorte hulgas, noorsoo kommunistliku teadlikkuse kasvatamine, vabariigi noorsookirjanduse juhtimine, noormeeste ja neidude kaasatõmbamine kaitse- ja spordiühingute töösse;
ja
komsomolikaadri kasvatamine kommunistliku ideelisuse vaimus, kõrge vastutustunde vaimus usaldatud töö eest, printsipiaalsuse ja puudustesse leppimatu suhtumise vaimus;
ja
ELKNÜ likmete ja organisatsioonide initsiatiivi ja omaalgatuse arendamine, kõigi kommunistlike noorte kaasatõmbamine osa võtma ühiskondlikust tööst, Kommunistliku Noorsooühingu eelarveliste vahendite jaotamine oma organisatsiooni piirides, ÜLKNÜ Keskkomitee süstemaatiline informeerimine ja aruandmine tema ees oma tööst.
KK aparaati kuulusid:
komsomoliorganisatsioonide osakond
propaganda ja kultuurmassilise töö osakond
töölis- ja maanoorte osakond
koolinoorte ja pioneeride osakond
üliõpilasosakond
spordi- ja massilise riigikaitsetöö osakond
üldosakond
asjadevalitsus.
ELKNÜ KK organisatsioon dubleeris EKP KK organisatsioonilist ülesehitust.
ELKNÜ KK ülesannete täitmiseks kasutas KK ka:
Eesti NSV Noorsoo-organisatsioonide Komiteed
Eesti NSV Pioneerinõukogu
Rahvusvahelise Noorsooturismi Bürood Sputnik
Eesti Üliõpilasmalevat
Eesti Õpilasmaleva Keskstaapi
ELKNÜ Keskkomitee juures asuvat Kõrgemat Komsomolikooli
Vabariiklikku Komsomoliaktiivi Kooli.
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Veel edukaid äri-poliitika tegelasi:
1972–1978, ELKNÜ Keskkomitee 1. sekretär – Indrek Toome
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indrek_Toome
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indrek_Toome#/media/File:Toome,_Made,_Savisaar_Harjumäel.JPG
"Eesti NSV poliitik ja Eesti ärimees. 1968. aastal lõpetas Tallinna Polütehnilise Instituudi elektroonikainsenerina ja kaugõppes NLKP KK juures asuva Kõrgema Parteikooli. Indrek Toome on Eesti Rooma Klubi liige"
"ÜLKNÜ Keskkomitee komsomoliorganite osakonna vastutav organisaator, inspektor (kureeris Kesk-Aasia liiduvabariike"
"Eesti NSV Valitsuse peaminister. 1990–1992 ENSV Ülemnõukogu ja Eesti Vabariigi Ülemnõukogu väliskomisjoni esimees...."
"Alates 1992. aasta sügisest seotud SRV Kinnisvara AS-i ja sellega seotud firmadega kui üks aktsionäridest ning firmade nõukogude ja juhatuste liige."
" 1994 vahistati Indrek Toome, kui ta pakkus Kaitsepolitsei ametnikule altkäemaksu, et tagasi saada kolm Eesti kodaniku passi, mis Kapo oli mõne aja eest ära võtnud ärimees Mark Rivkinilt"
ELKNÜ Keskkomitee 2. sekretär Vladimir Kuznetsov
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Kuznetsov
"Aastatel 1990–1992 oli ta Eesti Vabariigi Ülemnõukogu saadik.
Aastal 1999 oli ta Aktsiaseltsi "Kreenholmi Elamuvalitsus" direktor.
Ta oli aastatel 1978–1991 NLKP liige. 17. augustist 1999 on ta Keskerakonna liige."
ELKNÜ Keskkomitee sekretär Mait Aadna
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mait_Aadna
"eesti komsomoli- ja haridustegelane
"Polütehniline Instituudi mehaanikateaduskonna peenmehaanikaseadmete erialal
"Tallinna Mehaanikakooli asedirektor, hiljem 1999. aastani direktori kohusetäitja, hiljem on olnud Tallinna Tööstushariduskeskuse erialajuht.
1984–1988, ELKNÜ Keskkomitee 1. sekretär – Arno Almann
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arno_Almann
"Eesti NSV endine komsomoliaktivist, ta on aastast 2012 Estonian Business Schooli rektor.
"Lõpetas 1974 Tartu Riikliku Ülikooli õigusteaduskonna, õppis 1987–1989 Ühiskonnateaduste Akadeemias Moskvas (MSc).
ÜLKNÜ liige 1967, NLKP liige 1973. Oli 1973–1975 ELKNÜ Tartu Linnakomitee sekretär, kooliosakonna juhataja, 1976–1984 EKP Tartu Linnakomitee osakonnajuhataja, 1984–1988 ELKNÜ Keskkomitee esimene sekretär. EKP XIX Kongressil 1986 valiti ta EKP Keskkomitee liikmeks. Oli 1988–1990 Eesti NSV Ülemnõukogu Presiidiumis osakonnajuhataja ja Ülemnõukogu sekretär, 1990–1991 presiidiumi sekretär, 1991–1992 Ülemnõukogu esimehe riiginõunik...."
ELKNÜ Keskkomitee 1. sekretär – Vaino Väljas
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaino_V%C3%A4ljas
" Eesti NSV ja Eesti Vabariigi poliitik ning Nõukogude Liidu diplomaat.
Väljas juhtis aastatel 1988–1990 Eestimaa Kommunistliku Partei reformimist ning osales oskuslikult ja aktiivselt Eesti iseseisvusliikumises. EKP KK esimese sekretärina juhtis ta 1988. aastal Eesti NSV suveräänsusdeklaratsiooni vastuvõtmist.
" 1988 võttis ENSV Ülemnõukogu erakorraline istungjärk Vaino Väljase eesistumisel vastu deklaratsiooni Eesti NSV suveräänsusest. Seda hakati hiljem pidama NSV Liidu lagunemise alguseks.
"Pärast EKP lõhenemist juhtis Väljas aastail 1990–1992 selle eestimeelset tiiba, 1992–1995 oli ta Eesti Demokraatliku Tööpartei esimees.
Peeter Ernits, "Suursaadik Väljase ootamatud missioonid" – Maaleht, 23. märts 2006
ELKNÜ Keskkomitee sekretär Klara Hallik
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klara_Hallik (okey, Selle naise osas tuleb muidugi teine hoiak võtta...)
http://www.estoniannyingmaencyclopedia.com/est/index.php/Natsionalism_lahutab_Eestit_ja_perekonda
"Eesti on kahestumise nõiaringis, kust tuleb välja murda. Riigi presidendi funktsioon on täita niisugustel hetkedel riigi ja ühiskonna ühendaja rolli. Või me olemegi juba liivakastivabariik?"
..anujah, millest me räägine
"1984. aasta augustis välismaal viibides jättis ta koos abikaasa Leila Milleriga Nõukogude Liitu naasmata ja asus elama Rootsi. Eestisse jäi nende 1-aastane tütar Kaisa Randpere, keda nad alles rohkem kui kahe aasta pärast uuesti nägid..."
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELKNÜ_Keskkomitee
"Eestimaa Leninliku Kommunistliku Noorsooühingu Keskkomitee (vene keeles ЦК Ленинского коммунистического союза молодежи Эстонии) oli Eesti NSV ainupartei EKP noorsoo-organisatsiooni ELKNÜ kongressidel valitav juhtorgan, mis tegutses aastail 1940–1941 ja 1944–1990.
ELNKÜ KK asus alates 1976. aastast J. Kreuksi tänav 20, Tallinnas.
ELKNÜ Keskkomitee põhiülesanneteks oli:
poliitiline ja organisatsiooniline töö noorsoo hulgas, tema mobiliseerimine
ja
idelise kasvatustöö ja massilise kultuuritöö organiseerimine noorte hulgas, noorsoo kommunistliku teadlikkuse kasvatamine, vabariigi noorsookirjanduse juhtimine, noormeeste ja neidude kaasatõmbamine kaitse- ja spordiühingute töösse;
ja
komsomolikaadri kasvatamine kommunistliku ideelisuse vaimus, kõrge vastutustunde vaimus usaldatud töö eest, printsipiaalsuse ja puudustesse leppimatu suhtumise vaimus;
ja
ELKNÜ likmete ja organisatsioonide initsiatiivi ja omaalgatuse arendamine, kõigi kommunistlike noorte kaasatõmbamine osa võtma ühiskondlikust tööst, Kommunistliku Noorsooühingu eelarveliste vahendite jaotamine oma organisatsiooni piirides, ÜLKNÜ Keskkomitee süstemaatiline informeerimine ja aruandmine tema ees oma tööst.
KK aparaati kuulusid:
komsomoliorganisatsioonide osakond
propaganda ja kultuurmassilise töö osakond
töölis- ja maanoorte osakond
koolinoorte ja pioneeride osakond
üliõpilasosakond
spordi- ja massilise riigikaitsetöö osakond
üldosakond
asjadevalitsus.
ELKNÜ KK organisatsioon dubleeris EKP KK organisatsioonilist ülesehitust.
ELKNÜ KK ülesannete täitmiseks kasutas KK ka:
Eesti NSV Noorsoo-organisatsioonide Komiteed
Eesti NSV Pioneerinõukogu
Rahvusvahelise Noorsooturismi Bürood Sputnik
Eesti Üliõpilasmalevat
Eesti Õpilasmaleva Keskstaapi
ELKNÜ Keskkomitee juures asuvat Kõrgemat Komsomolikooli
Vabariiklikku Komsomoliaktiivi Kooli.
---
Veel edukaid äri-poliitika tegelasi:
1972–1978, ELKNÜ Keskkomitee 1. sekretär – Indrek Toome
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indrek_Toome
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indrek_Toome#/media/File:Toome,_Made,_Savisaar_Harjumäel.JPG
"Eesti NSV poliitik ja Eesti ärimees. 1968. aastal lõpetas Tallinna Polütehnilise Instituudi elektroonikainsenerina ja kaugõppes NLKP KK juures asuva Kõrgema Parteikooli. Indrek Toome on Eesti Rooma Klubi liige"
"ÜLKNÜ Keskkomitee komsomoliorganite osakonna vastutav organisaator, inspektor (kureeris Kesk-Aasia liiduvabariike"
"Eesti NSV Valitsuse peaminister. 1990–1992 ENSV Ülemnõukogu ja Eesti Vabariigi Ülemnõukogu väliskomisjoni esimees...."
"Alates 1992. aasta sügisest seotud SRV Kinnisvara AS-i ja sellega seotud firmadega kui üks aktsionäridest ning firmade nõukogude ja juhatuste liige."
" 1994 vahistati Indrek Toome, kui ta pakkus Kaitsepolitsei ametnikule altkäemaksu, et tagasi saada kolm Eesti kodaniku passi, mis Kapo oli mõne aja eest ära võtnud ärimees Mark Rivkinilt"
ELKNÜ Keskkomitee 2. sekretär Vladimir Kuznetsov
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Kuznetsov
"Aastatel 1990–1992 oli ta Eesti Vabariigi Ülemnõukogu saadik.
Aastal 1999 oli ta Aktsiaseltsi "Kreenholmi Elamuvalitsus" direktor.
Ta oli aastatel 1978–1991 NLKP liige. 17. augustist 1999 on ta Keskerakonna liige."
ELKNÜ Keskkomitee sekretär Mait Aadna
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mait_Aadna
"eesti komsomoli- ja haridustegelane
"Polütehniline Instituudi mehaanikateaduskonna peenmehaanikaseadmete erialal
"Tallinna Mehaanikakooli asedirektor, hiljem 1999. aastani direktori kohusetäitja, hiljem on olnud Tallinna Tööstushariduskeskuse erialajuht.
1984–1988, ELKNÜ Keskkomitee 1. sekretär – Arno Almann
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arno_Almann
"Eesti NSV endine komsomoliaktivist, ta on aastast 2012 Estonian Business Schooli rektor.
"Lõpetas 1974 Tartu Riikliku Ülikooli õigusteaduskonna, õppis 1987–1989 Ühiskonnateaduste Akadeemias Moskvas (MSc).
ÜLKNÜ liige 1967, NLKP liige 1973. Oli 1973–1975 ELKNÜ Tartu Linnakomitee sekretär, kooliosakonna juhataja, 1976–1984 EKP Tartu Linnakomitee osakonnajuhataja, 1984–1988 ELKNÜ Keskkomitee esimene sekretär. EKP XIX Kongressil 1986 valiti ta EKP Keskkomitee liikmeks. Oli 1988–1990 Eesti NSV Ülemnõukogu Presiidiumis osakonnajuhataja ja Ülemnõukogu sekretär, 1990–1991 presiidiumi sekretär, 1991–1992 Ülemnõukogu esimehe riiginõunik...."
ELKNÜ Keskkomitee 1. sekretär – Vaino Väljas
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaino_V%C3%A4ljas
" Eesti NSV ja Eesti Vabariigi poliitik ning Nõukogude Liidu diplomaat.
Väljas juhtis aastatel 1988–1990 Eestimaa Kommunistliku Partei reformimist ning osales oskuslikult ja aktiivselt Eesti iseseisvusliikumises. EKP KK esimese sekretärina juhtis ta 1988. aastal Eesti NSV suveräänsusdeklaratsiooni vastuvõtmist.
" 1988 võttis ENSV Ülemnõukogu erakorraline istungjärk Vaino Väljase eesistumisel vastu deklaratsiooni Eesti NSV suveräänsusest. Seda hakati hiljem pidama NSV Liidu lagunemise alguseks.
"Pärast EKP lõhenemist juhtis Väljas aastail 1990–1992 selle eestimeelset tiiba, 1992–1995 oli ta Eesti Demokraatliku Tööpartei esimees.
Peeter Ernits, "Suursaadik Väljase ootamatud missioonid" – Maaleht, 23. märts 2006
ELKNÜ Keskkomitee sekretär Klara Hallik
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klara_Hallik (okey, Selle naise osas tuleb muidugi teine hoiak võtta...)
http://www.estoniannyingmaencyclopedia.com/est/index.php/Natsionalism_lahutab_Eestit_ja_perekonda
"Eesti on kahestumise nõiaringis, kust tuleb välja murda. Riigi presidendi funktsioon on täita niisugustel hetkedel riigi ja ühiskonna ühendaja rolli. Või me olemegi juba liivakastivabariik?"
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELKNÜ_Keskkomitee
25 February 2018 19:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/omid-safi/is-islamic-mysticism-real_b_841438.html
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/omid-safi/is-islamic-mysticism-real_b_841438.html
25 February 2018 19:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Orientalist scholars (whose approach began in Europe and dominated much of the American scholarly engagement with Islam) based their approach on a study of Islam that privileged “classical” legal and theological Arabic texts from 800-1100 C.E. Of all those texts, the most important ones were held to be the ones closest historically to the “foundational” period. The Orientalists became interested in Sufism very early on, almost as early as their translations of the Quran. They found themselves attracted to the deep beauty and wisdom of Sufi poetry, particularly from Persian. Quite inconveniently for them, they were also committed to a bifurcated view that divided the world into Semitic (Arabs and Jews, characterized primarily by law, monotheism, and dry deserts) and Indo-Europeans (Hindus, Europeans and Iranians, who lived through philosophy, art, mysticism and logic). The Orientalists had no problem thinking that entire blocks of humanity share certain “mentalities” and “temperaments” connected to their languages. Even though they admired the poetry of mystics like Sa’di, Hafez and Rumi, they could not admit that Muslims (who were “Semitic” after all) could come up with such beauty, mysticism and poetry. Therefore, the Orientalists decreed that Sufism must be “un-Islamic” and due to Christian, Persian, Hindu or Neoplatonic “influences” — anything but Islam, anything but the experience of Prophet Muhammad in encountering God, which is what the Sufis have always claimed as the primary source of their inspiration!
The Muslim conservative/modernists (what we broadly refer to as the Salafi tradtion) came to have a profound distrust of what might be termed “the tradition(s) of Islam,” believing that the historical tradition of Islamic scholarship — and the scholars who had been the authoritative interpreters of Islam — were increasingly irrelevant to the historical trials and tribulations through which 19th and 20th century Muslims were suffering. They wanted to remain pious and observant Muslims, but believed that the way to return to the “glory days” of Islam was to “return” to the original spirit of vitality and authenticity of Islam, before the influence of “foreign ideas” crept into Islam, sapping its authenticity. These foreign ideas they equated both culturally (the contribution of Persians, Indians, Turks, etc.) and intellectually (the traditions of philosophy, mysticism and all non-scriptural sciences).
The idea for the Muslim modernists was that the remedy for Islam consisted of a textual return “away from the blemishes ... of the later phases” back to “yearning for truth” of the founders of Islam. In this, they found themselves oddly in full-agreement with the orientalists. They came to be suspicious of many traditions of Islamic thought and practice that developed through time, including that of Sufism. Perhaps most polemically, they identified Sufism as having contributed to a corrupt and inward-looking mentality that allowed the colonial powers to dominate Muslims. Throughout Islamic history, particular Sufi ideas and practices (such as the “Unity of Being,” certain meditation techniques and commemoration of the Prophet’s birthday) had always been contested by other Muslims. It was in this modern and modernist context that the whole of Islamic mysticism came to be viewed with great suspicion as being un-Islamic if not outright anti-Islamic.
So where do the New Agers come into play? It was only in the 20th century that human beings became capable of uttering a sentence like “I’m not religious, I’m spiritual.” Historically all religious traditions have had mystical dimensions, and their mystical traditions have arisen within the very depth of each tradition, partaking of its key symbols and emulating the spiritual experiences of its main exemplars. It was in this modern context that a deep and new suspicion of the outward forms and institutions of religion was cultivated, with people who believed that they were on the edge (or already inside) a “New Age” of human consciousness. It was these new Agers who, dissatisfied with their own experiences of Judaism and Christianity, turned “East” to the mystical traditions of Buddhism, Hindu traditions and Islam to obtain the mystical truth that they so yearned for — without necessarily wanting to adopt the legal and institutional aspects of those traditions. In many cases, the engagements were complicated by colonial politics, as the “eastern” traditions of wisdom were connected to colonized countries that many of the same Westerners looked down upon, even as they were fascinated by them.
So what we have had for the last few decades is a situation of Orientalists and Salafi Muslims seeking to construct a “real Islam” that is untainted by Sufi dimensions, and many new agers seek to extract a mysticism that stands above and disconnected from wider, broader and deeper aspects of Islam.
Yes we have learned that the human yearning for the Divine, for beauty, for love and for loveliness is too deeply engrained in the human spirit to be partitioned off or exiled. Today, many Muslims world-wide are increasingly dissatisfied with what they see as dry as stale bread interpretations and practices of Islam, and want — and demand — something more spiritual and more beautiful. They know about the deep spiritual experience of the Prophet Muhammad, who came face to face with God, and they too yearn for their own spiritual experiences.
All Muslims seek to emulate the Prophet Muhammad. The Quran reminds them that if you love God, follow Muhammad. The mystically oriented among Muslims take the emulation a bit more literally: If Muhammad arose to have his own face-to-face encounter with the Divine, they too aspire to rise in the footsteps of the Prophet, to have their own meeting with God. As it was said of the great Rumi, they too want to be “off-springs of the soul of Muhammad.”
Omid Safi is a Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina. He is the Co-Chair of the Islamic Mysticism Group at the American Academy of Religion, and the author of ‘Memories of Muhammad: Why the Prophet Matters’ (HarperOne, 2009)
The Muslim conservative/modernists (what we broadly refer to as the Salafi tradtion) came to have a profound distrust of what might be termed “the tradition(s) of Islam,” believing that the historical tradition of Islamic scholarship — and the scholars who had been the authoritative interpreters of Islam — were increasingly irrelevant to the historical trials and tribulations through which 19th and 20th century Muslims were suffering. They wanted to remain pious and observant Muslims, but believed that the way to return to the “glory days” of Islam was to “return” to the original spirit of vitality and authenticity of Islam, before the influence of “foreign ideas” crept into Islam, sapping its authenticity. These foreign ideas they equated both culturally (the contribution of Persians, Indians, Turks, etc.) and intellectually (the traditions of philosophy, mysticism and all non-scriptural sciences).
The idea for the Muslim modernists was that the remedy for Islam consisted of a textual return “away from the blemishes ... of the later phases” back to “yearning for truth” of the founders of Islam. In this, they found themselves oddly in full-agreement with the orientalists. They came to be suspicious of many traditions of Islamic thought and practice that developed through time, including that of Sufism. Perhaps most polemically, they identified Sufism as having contributed to a corrupt and inward-looking mentality that allowed the colonial powers to dominate Muslims. Throughout Islamic history, particular Sufi ideas and practices (such as the “Unity of Being,” certain meditation techniques and commemoration of the Prophet’s birthday) had always been contested by other Muslims. It was in this modern and modernist context that the whole of Islamic mysticism came to be viewed with great suspicion as being un-Islamic if not outright anti-Islamic.
So where do the New Agers come into play? It was only in the 20th century that human beings became capable of uttering a sentence like “I’m not religious, I’m spiritual.” Historically all religious traditions have had mystical dimensions, and their mystical traditions have arisen within the very depth of each tradition, partaking of its key symbols and emulating the spiritual experiences of its main exemplars. It was in this modern context that a deep and new suspicion of the outward forms and institutions of religion was cultivated, with people who believed that they were on the edge (or already inside) a “New Age” of human consciousness. It was these new Agers who, dissatisfied with their own experiences of Judaism and Christianity, turned “East” to the mystical traditions of Buddhism, Hindu traditions and Islam to obtain the mystical truth that they so yearned for — without necessarily wanting to adopt the legal and institutional aspects of those traditions. In many cases, the engagements were complicated by colonial politics, as the “eastern” traditions of wisdom were connected to colonized countries that many of the same Westerners looked down upon, even as they were fascinated by them.
So what we have had for the last few decades is a situation of Orientalists and Salafi Muslims seeking to construct a “real Islam” that is untainted by Sufi dimensions, and many new agers seek to extract a mysticism that stands above and disconnected from wider, broader and deeper aspects of Islam.
Yes we have learned that the human yearning for the Divine, for beauty, for love and for loveliness is too deeply engrained in the human spirit to be partitioned off or exiled. Today, many Muslims world-wide are increasingly dissatisfied with what they see as dry as stale bread interpretations and practices of Islam, and want — and demand — something more spiritual and more beautiful. They know about the deep spiritual experience of the Prophet Muhammad, who came face to face with God, and they too yearn for their own spiritual experiences.
All Muslims seek to emulate the Prophet Muhammad. The Quran reminds them that if you love God, follow Muhammad. The mystically oriented among Muslims take the emulation a bit more literally: If Muhammad arose to have his own face-to-face encounter with the Divine, they too aspire to rise in the footsteps of the Prophet, to have their own meeting with God. As it was said of the great Rumi, they too want to be “off-springs of the soul of Muhammad.”
Omid Safi is a Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina. He is the Co-Chair of the Islamic Mysticism Group at the American Academy of Religion, and the author of ‘Memories of Muhammad: Why the Prophet Matters’ (HarperOne, 2009)
25 February 2018 19:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
There is a lovely story from the life of the Prophet Muhammad, remembering that a mysterious visitor came upon him and his companions. The visitor, later revealed to be the archangel Gabriel, proceeded to sit intimately next to Muhammad and quiz the Prophet. He asked Muhammad about three increasingly higher and deeper levels of religiosity, which the Prophet answered sequentially as Islam (wholehearted submission to God), Faith and, lastly, Loveliness (ihsan). This third quality the Prophet identified as worshipping God as if we could see the Divine, and if we cannot, to always remember that God nevertheless sees us.
The sequence is fascinating, as it reveals that what we think of as Islam (the attestation to Divine Unity, the performance of the prayers, the pilgrimage to Mecca, the paying of the alms tax, the fast of Ramadan) mark only the very first layer — though the foundational layer — of religiosity. Above that is faith, and above faith is the spiritual and mystical layer of spiritual beauty, for ihsan is literally the realm of actualizing and realizing beauty and loveliness (husn), of bringing beauty into this world and connecting it to God, who is the All-Beautiful.
Throughout Islamic history, this realm of ihsan was most emphatically pursued by the mystics of Islam, the Sufis. Historically, this mystical realm of Islam formed a powerful companion to the legal dimension of Islam (sharia). Indeed, many of the mystics of Islam were also masters of legal and theological realms. The cultivation of inward beauty and outward righteous action were linked in many of important Islamic institutions. In comparing Islam with Judaism, the mystical dimension of Islam was much more prominently widespread than Kabbalah. And unlike the Christian tradition, the mysticism of Islam was not cloistered in monasteries. Sufis were — and remain — social and political agents who went about seeking the Divine in the very midst of humanity.
After the Prophet Muhammad, many of the most influential of all Muslims were and remain mystics. Mawlana Jalal al-Din Balkhi, known to Turks as Mevlana and to Americans as Rumi, remains the most beloved of all Sufi poets, whose Masnavi was perhaps the only work ever compared directly with the Quran. Ibn ‘Arabi, the Spanish Muslim sage, remains the most widely read metaphysician, and his school of “Unity of Being” (Wahdat al-wujud) has been both influential and controversial from Spain to Indonesia. The most important Muslim theologian, al-Ghazali, identified the realm of Sufism as the highest Islamic quest for knowledge, one that dealt most directly with other-worldly matters.
Nor was the practice of Islamic mysticism limited to intellectuals and poets. At the level of popular practice, some of the Sufi shrines received as many (if not more) annual visitors that the Mecca does for the Hajj pilgrimage. Entire Muslim-majority regions (Iran, Turkey, South Asia, Sub-Saharan Africa, etc.) came to develop understandings of Islam that are and remain inseparable from mystical understandings of Islam. Much of the higher dimensions of Islamic aesthetics (calligraphy and poetry) have been inseparable from Sufism.
And yet, today, the word “Sufi” is a highly suspect one for many modern Muslims, and even thinkers and preachers whose frameworks and anecdotes are permeated with those of the mystical dimension of Islam eschew the mere mention of the word Sufi, either not wanting to alienate their suspicious audience or not wishing to “erode” their authority by connecting their teachings to anything other than the Quran and the example of the Prophet.
So how did such a powerful and beautiful dimension of Islam come to be viewed with such suspicion by so many Muslims?
The marginalization of Sufism came about through an initially unlikely perfect storm, an alliance of European Orientalists and conservative/modernist Muslims, whose agenda in demarcating Islam from Sufism ironically supports that of certain New-Agey Universalists who sought to extract Sufism out of Islam. Let’s explore this somewhat odd association a bit more closely.
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The sequence is fascinating, as it reveals that what we think of as Islam (the attestation to Divine Unity, the performance of the prayers, the pilgrimage to Mecca, the paying of the alms tax, the fast of Ramadan) mark only the very first layer — though the foundational layer — of religiosity. Above that is faith, and above faith is the spiritual and mystical layer of spiritual beauty, for ihsan is literally the realm of actualizing and realizing beauty and loveliness (husn), of bringing beauty into this world and connecting it to God, who is the All-Beautiful.
Throughout Islamic history, this realm of ihsan was most emphatically pursued by the mystics of Islam, the Sufis. Historically, this mystical realm of Islam formed a powerful companion to the legal dimension of Islam (sharia). Indeed, many of the mystics of Islam were also masters of legal and theological realms. The cultivation of inward beauty and outward righteous action were linked in many of important Islamic institutions. In comparing Islam with Judaism, the mystical dimension of Islam was much more prominently widespread than Kabbalah. And unlike the Christian tradition, the mysticism of Islam was not cloistered in monasteries. Sufis were — and remain — social and political agents who went about seeking the Divine in the very midst of humanity.
After the Prophet Muhammad, many of the most influential of all Muslims were and remain mystics. Mawlana Jalal al-Din Balkhi, known to Turks as Mevlana and to Americans as Rumi, remains the most beloved of all Sufi poets, whose Masnavi was perhaps the only work ever compared directly with the Quran. Ibn ‘Arabi, the Spanish Muslim sage, remains the most widely read metaphysician, and his school of “Unity of Being” (Wahdat al-wujud) has been both influential and controversial from Spain to Indonesia. The most important Muslim theologian, al-Ghazali, identified the realm of Sufism as the highest Islamic quest for knowledge, one that dealt most directly with other-worldly matters.
Nor was the practice of Islamic mysticism limited to intellectuals and poets. At the level of popular practice, some of the Sufi shrines received as many (if not more) annual visitors that the Mecca does for the Hajj pilgrimage. Entire Muslim-majority regions (Iran, Turkey, South Asia, Sub-Saharan Africa, etc.) came to develop understandings of Islam that are and remain inseparable from mystical understandings of Islam. Much of the higher dimensions of Islamic aesthetics (calligraphy and poetry) have been inseparable from Sufism.
And yet, today, the word “Sufi” is a highly suspect one for many modern Muslims, and even thinkers and preachers whose frameworks and anecdotes are permeated with those of the mystical dimension of Islam eschew the mere mention of the word Sufi, either not wanting to alienate their suspicious audience or not wishing to “erode” their authority by connecting their teachings to anything other than the Quran and the example of the Prophet.
So how did such a powerful and beautiful dimension of Islam come to be viewed with such suspicion by so many Muslims?
The marginalization of Sufism came about through an initially unlikely perfect storm, an alliance of European Orientalists and conservative/modernist Muslims, whose agenda in demarcating Islam from Sufism ironically supports that of certain New-Agey Universalists who sought to extract Sufism out of Islam. Let’s explore this somewhat odd association a bit more closely.
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25 February 2018 19:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Inglismaal Moseesi pentagrammidest puhastamas ja sanatõdesi selgitamas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH6dhz8MRh4&list=PLsXelNZnKcxloXlauIsCLmisnBm5LDoZg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH6dhz8MRh4&list=PLsXelNZnKcxloXlauIsCLmisnBm5LDoZg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH6dhz8MRh4&list=PLsXelNZnKcxloXlauIsCLmisnBm5LDoZg
25 February 2018 19:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
he's crew are sharia Mujahideen's with sufism depth (telepathic radical beliver) but not Ghazi-like..
25 February 2018 19:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Plot of šatan has ever been weak"
"kurjuse plaan on algusestsaati nõrk olnud"
"kurjuse plaan on algusestsaati nõrk olnud"
25 February 2018 18:50
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's photo.
Draw lord Estonia as well ; )
25 February 2018 18:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//
https://youtu.be/BqUlZaW8rd4?t=4857
https://youtu.be/BqUlZaW8rd4?t=4857
https://youtu.be/BqUlZaW8rd4?t=4857
25 February 2018 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// märge Ülemiste osas, meeldejätuks
Allah-hindlus @ Suur-sõjamäel
Allah-hindlus @ Suur-sõjamäel
25 February 2018 18:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mehwish Qayum have You seen Him around?
Oh.. in india now..
Still ever plans for Pakistani?
Joining with Pakistan Defence vegan feminist radicals cell :p
Oh.. in india now..
Still ever plans for Pakistani?
Joining with Pakistan Defence vegan feminist radicals cell :p
25 February 2018 18:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Positiivne pool:
"See summa kattis ju ka ERMi üüri, ümberehitused majas, tehnika rendi, teleteenused, toitlustuse jms. See ei ole ainult etenduse raha. Ja niipalju kui mina aru sain, oli "telefonisalvestuse" stiil taotluslik, võimaldades meil kõigil end osalisena tunda, samastuda. Elleri Kodumaist viisi ja muud klassikat ongi ju sellisel kontserdil oodata. Pärt oli pandud väga nutikasse konteksti - sellele võõrkeelsele palale vene õigeusu kirikus järgnes Kristjan Jaagu "Kas siis selle maa keel" - kui aru ei saadud, no kelle süü see on? Ja nii oli kogu see pool tundi täis väga häid kujundeid, huvitav, kas küsitletud ei tundnud neid ära või ei lähe neile miski korda?"
--
ja veel:
"olge parem kõik vait.
Kus te varem olite?
Viimane kord kultuuritegelaste poolt midagi adekvaatselt ja oluliselt põhjapanevat öeldi kulturnikute pleenumi ajal ENVSs, sellest edasi on vaid üks konformism ja peelakkumine.
Heinz Valgu tasemeks osutus kohvireklaam ja "vabaduslaulik Mäks" võiks näiteks teha Maks ja Mooritsa lihatööstuse toodetele reklaami.."
"See summa kattis ju ka ERMi üüri, ümberehitused majas, tehnika rendi, teleteenused, toitlustuse jms. See ei ole ainult etenduse raha. Ja niipalju kui mina aru sain, oli "telefonisalvestuse" stiil taotluslik, võimaldades meil kõigil end osalisena tunda, samastuda. Elleri Kodumaist viisi ja muud klassikat ongi ju sellisel kontserdil oodata. Pärt oli pandud väga nutikasse konteksti - sellele võõrkeelsele palale vene õigeusu kirikus järgnes Kristjan Jaagu "Kas siis selle maa keel" - kui aru ei saadud, no kelle süü see on? Ja nii oli kogu see pool tundi täis väga häid kujundeid, huvitav, kas küsitletud ei tundnud neid ära või ei lähe neile miski korda?"
--
ja veel:
"olge parem kõik vait.
Kus te varem olite?
Viimane kord kultuuritegelaste poolt midagi adekvaatselt ja oluliselt põhjapanevat öeldi kulturnikute pleenumi ajal ENVSs, sellest edasi on vaid üks konformism ja peelakkumine.
Heinz Valgu tasemeks osutus kohvireklaam ja "vabaduslaulik Mäks" võiks näiteks teha Maks ja Mooritsa lihatööstuse toodetele reklaami.."
25 February 2018 16:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kommetaar:
"kui kunstkinu pihta hakkas siis mingid tütod laulsid bussis ja kaebasid et näe saand tallinnast tulema va helmede tõrvikukandjad na segavad liiklust + 1 riigi ideoloogiateenistusele, edasi läks küll nati lõbusemalt, ma isegi arvasin et näe oskavad isegi nn. lihtiniseid näidata, aga siis võttis suur kunts ohjad enda kätte ja pudru ja kapsad no moodi läksid käima, mingid vaimud surnuhaudadel mingi mushik annab mustale koerale (a la Tarkovski) midagi hamba alla siis mingi metsrüüste mäng jne, jne lõpuks ei saanud aru kas Tõnis oli siis ka selles filmis vüi püüdis juuresolevana häält teha: Kas tõeste läks see triangel nõnda kulukaks mede vaesele maale?"
// muide see metsarüüste ja muda osa isegi suts meeldis aga praanisin kogu asja korralikult hiljem vaadata.. ehk siis sattusin hea osa peale ainult... kuid.. proovid nii mitte kritiseerida kuid...
https://www.ohtuleht.ee/861342/kommentaarid
"kui kunstkinu pihta hakkas siis mingid tütod laulsid bussis ja kaebasid et näe saand tallinnast tulema va helmede tõrvikukandjad na segavad liiklust + 1 riigi ideoloogiateenistusele, edasi läks küll nati lõbusemalt, ma isegi arvasin et näe oskavad isegi nn. lihtiniseid näidata, aga siis võttis suur kunts ohjad enda kätte ja pudru ja kapsad no moodi läksid käima, mingid vaimud surnuhaudadel mingi mushik annab mustale koerale (a la Tarkovski) midagi hamba alla siis mingi metsrüüste mäng jne, jne lõpuks ei saanud aru kas Tõnis oli siis ka selles filmis vüi püüdis juuresolevana häält teha: Kas tõeste läks see triangel nõnda kulukaks mede vaesele maale?"
// muide see metsarüüste ja muda osa isegi suts meeldis aga praanisin kogu asja korralikult hiljem vaadata.. ehk siis sattusin hea osa peale ainult... kuid.. proovid nii mitte kritiseerida kuid...
https://www.ohtuleht.ee/861342/kommentaarid
https://www.ohtuleht.ee/861342/kommentaarid
25 February 2018 16:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Kunstnik Ervin Õunapuu lisab kommentaarides, et "Kisa oli meeletu, villa mitte kopika eestki. Muusikalist rännakut vaadates ennustasin ette, et kohe varsti tuleb Pärt mingis külmas kirikus koos hingeauruga - mind vaadati nagu debiilikut; siis 3 minutit hiljem auditoorium vaikis."
Dirigent Tõnu Kaljuste võrdleb aga No99 etendust karistuslöögiga. "Jalgpallurid enne NO31 karistuslööki" pealkirjastab ta pildi aastapäevapeolt. "
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204670466398966&set=a.1030502980228.4357.1754995193&type=3&theater
Dirigent Tõnu Kaljuste võrdleb aga No99 etendust karistuslöögiga. "Jalgpallurid enne NO31 karistuslööki" pealkirjastab ta pildi aastapäevapeolt. "
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204670466398966&set=a.1030502980228.4357.1754995193&type=3&theater
25 February 2018 16:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sellised lood:
"Sellise raha eest on tehtud mitu täispikka mängufilmi. Ja selliseid mis mujal auhindu korjanud.""
"Eile toimus Tartus ERM-is president Kersti Kaljulaidi ja tema abikaasa pidulik vastuvõtt Eesti Vabariigi 100. juubeli puhul. Peoõhtul oli programmis ka teater NO99 poolt valmistatud film, mis maksis 300 000 eurot. Lavastaja ja näitleja Hendrik Toompere kirjutab sotsiaalmeedias, et tegemist oli kooliteatri filmikatsetusega.
"Mulle meeldis, et aastakontsert oli nagu kooliteatri filmikatsetus. See viitab sellele, et kõik on kuidagi võimelised Eesti asjas sõna sekka ütlema. Ja et sellega antakse innustust. Et ükskõik mis probleeme ka pole, ikka filmi moblaga oma lugu üles. See on omamoodi sotsiaalne projekt mis innustab," kirjutas ta.
Samuti kommenteerib Toompere oma postituse all, et selle raha eest oleks saanud mitu täispikka mängufilmi.
https://www.facebook.com/peeter.tali/posts/1984849384876988?notif_id=1519568314432863¬if_t=notify_me&ref=notif
http://publik.delfi.ee/news/ev100presidendiball/hendrik-toompere-no99-300-000-eurot-maksnud-kunstifilmist-aastakontsert-oli-nagu-kooliteatri-filmikatsetus?id=81248469
"Sellise raha eest on tehtud mitu täispikka mängufilmi. Ja selliseid mis mujal auhindu korjanud.""
"Eile toimus Tartus ERM-is president Kersti Kaljulaidi ja tema abikaasa pidulik vastuvõtt Eesti Vabariigi 100. juubeli puhul. Peoõhtul oli programmis ka teater NO99 poolt valmistatud film, mis maksis 300 000 eurot. Lavastaja ja näitleja Hendrik Toompere kirjutab sotsiaalmeedias, et tegemist oli kooliteatri filmikatsetusega.
"Mulle meeldis, et aastakontsert oli nagu kooliteatri filmikatsetus. See viitab sellele, et kõik on kuidagi võimelised Eesti asjas sõna sekka ütlema. Ja et sellega antakse innustust. Et ükskõik mis probleeme ka pole, ikka filmi moblaga oma lugu üles. See on omamoodi sotsiaalne projekt mis innustab," kirjutas ta.
Samuti kommenteerib Toompere oma postituse all, et selle raha eest oleks saanud mitu täispikka mängufilmi.
https://www.facebook.com/peeter.tali/posts/1984849384876988?notif_id=1519568314432863¬if_t=notify_me&ref=notif
http://publik.delfi.ee/news/ev100presidendiball/hendrik-toompere-no99-300-000-eurot-maksnud-kunstifilmist-aastakontsert-oli-nagu-kooliteatri-filmikatsetus?id=81248469
25 February 2018 16:28
Margus Meigo replied to Tanel Lebedev's comment.
Group: Date and meet Vegan (Estonia)
8 inimesega v?25 February 2018 16:17
Margus Meigo commented on Kaisa Alla's post.
metsSiga minu üks hingeloomast : )
25 February 2018 16:15
Margus Meigo commented on Kaisa Alla's photo.
Nu Su loodusavastused ja pildid on täitsa fantastilised, high def kalerii ka netis olemas on ?
Kas on tarvis?
Kas on tarvis?
25 February 2018 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on Kaisa Alla's photo.
Ilus, väeline ja maitsev!
25 February 2018 16:11
Margus Meigo commented on Kaisa Alla's photo.
Yammy.. kas See on see mis ma arvan ?
25 February 2018 16:10
Margus Meigo replied to Kaisa Alla's comment.
Group: Date and meet Vegan (Estonia)
Kaisa Alla NU eks siis Sul ikka on ju väga vedanud, ja Väga vabas, kerges, meeldivas maailmas elad,
kui külge lüüakse,
proovi elada vastaspoolsuse maailmas, kus kõik on täpselt vastupidi ja siis elus postiivsena proovida edasi olla25 February 2018 16:09
Margus Meigo replied to Kaisa Alla's comment.
Group: Date and meet Vegan (Estonia)
Hannes Emrys Suur mainkanfi mitte lugemine on puhas laiskus
isegi Rabbid loevad ja kiidavad
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=gjSFIdfuiGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjSFIdfuiGEhttps://hooktube.com/watch?v=gjSFIdfuiGE
25 February 2018 16:08
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Liisa Sarapik's photo.
Täitsa Pelgulinnas oled?
25 February 2018 16:05
Margus Meigo replied to William Kass's comment.
Group: Date and meet Vegan (Estonia)
oot, aga täis horror aga ikkagi Veggan, ? Suht huvitav kooslus25 February 2018 15:20
Margus Meigo replied to William Kass's comment.
Group: Date and meet Vegan (Estonia)
(st see naistele kahjulik, sest need olendid ja viamud, ja muud k kollid.. need sekuaalflirdigagi juba üle kanduvad kahjustavalt ,rääkimata siis veel magamisel.. ...kuid praegu selline "50 shades & libahuntide, vampiride & teiste olendite ja surnute armastuse ajastu... seega perhaps all go's).
aga näojärgi muidu suht sõbralik :p25 February 2018 15:19
Margus Meigo replied to William Kass's comment.
Group: Date and meet Vegan (Estonia)
Väga hirmus, ega see naistele head ei too.
Eriti ohtlik kui veel aineid ka ei võta siis nii kergest ivälja eip tule kõigest mustast.25 February 2018 15:17
Margus Meigo replied to Kaisa Alla's comment.
Group: Date and meet Vegan (Estonia)
Nu peaasi, et hipstereid ja hippisi sassi ei aeta (need "Nõukogude hipid" mu jaoks kahtlase väärtusega hipid..)
Ma oma hippinduses olen enamasti kahjuks liiga radikaalne ka neonatside ja kooselatud Bloods-Gripps gänksterite jaoks.. & feministide jaoks liiga matriarhaatne, rahvuslaste jaoks liialt vanamoodne ja hippide jaoks liiga farout
kuskile ei mahu sisse :( (osati ka " :D ." ..kuid vahest ikka murelikuks teeb juba.. )25 February 2018 15:16
Margus Meigo replied to Estonia's comment.
More mayor Bowser ..
we demand special headletter, as we eddggyy :p
https://goo.gl/EdGGYX
we demand special headletter, as we eddggyy :p
https://goo.gl/EdGGYX
https://goo.gl/EdGGYX
25 February 2018 14:39
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
hahahha , good one
25 February 2018 13:39
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
hahahha :D
The world will just adjust to their height then
The world will just adjust to their height then
25 February 2018 13:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
( !!! )
25 February 2018 13:35
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
unHooly crap
25 February 2018 13:35
Margus Meigo commented on Karoline Zolgo's post.
Group: Eestlaste Kolmnurk(Uus)
Ei tohi, ta ei luba24 February 2018 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ehki vast mitte nii karmilt:
Andres Sirel "Palju õnne ja tervist kõigile tähtsal Eesti Vabariigi sünnipäeval. Keegi kunstnik on isegi soperdanud mingi kujutise selle puhul – piklik klots ja kaks muna. Arvutuste järgi (1918-2018) peaks andma välja sada, kuid kunstipärane kujund viitab kõvasti rohkem numbrile kaheksateist. Aga ärgem heitkem meelt ja irisegem, palju muudki on nii ära moonutatud, et parem ongi kui ära ei tunne või isegi kui tahaks ei tunne ikka. Niisiis leppigem numbriga kaheksateist, sest see ongi tegelikult peaaegu õige number kujutamaks taasiseseisvunud Eestile antud aega nautida mingitki iseseisvuse tunnet. See aeg sai otsa, tuli euro, omasooiharad, neegrite ja moslemitega tsivilisatsiooni hävitamine ja muud tülgastavad euroopalikud väärtused. Aga natukene positiivsemalt – meil paljudel avanes võimalus sellest üürikesest ajast osa saada, Eesti Kroonidega maksta ja saada makstud ja vähemalt arvata, et elame taasiseseisvunud Eesti Vabariigis. Hoolimata sellest ärge visake püssi põõsasse, vaid just vastupidi. "
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10215155779665798&id=1171571493
Andres Sirel "Palju õnne ja tervist kõigile tähtsal Eesti Vabariigi sünnipäeval. Keegi kunstnik on isegi soperdanud mingi kujutise selle puhul – piklik klots ja kaks muna. Arvutuste järgi (1918-2018) peaks andma välja sada, kuid kunstipärane kujund viitab kõvasti rohkem numbrile kaheksateist. Aga ärgem heitkem meelt ja irisegem, palju muudki on nii ära moonutatud, et parem ongi kui ära ei tunne või isegi kui tahaks ei tunne ikka. Niisiis leppigem numbriga kaheksateist, sest see ongi tegelikult peaaegu õige number kujutamaks taasiseseisvunud Eestile antud aega nautida mingitki iseseisvuse tunnet. See aeg sai otsa, tuli euro, omasooiharad, neegrite ja moslemitega tsivilisatsiooni hävitamine ja muud tülgastavad euroopalikud väärtused. Aga natukene positiivsemalt – meil paljudel avanes võimalus sellest üürikesest ajast osa saada, Eesti Kroonidega maksta ja saada makstud ja vähemalt arvata, et elame taasiseseisvunud Eesti Vabariigis. Hoolimata sellest ärge visake püssi põõsasse, vaid just vastupidi. "
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10215155779665798&id=1171571493
24 February 2018 23:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
digi damagodzideks hakkama v, pixeldatuks
24 February 2018 20:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu täeisti ulme,
sõna otseses mõtttes
mis moodi see peaks eesti hinge ja vanaihinega seostatud olema
sõna otseses mõtttes
mis moodi see peaks eesti hinge ja vanaihinega seostatud olema
24 February 2018 20:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
24 February 2018 20:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
24 February 2018 20:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aga kes selle ibraka disaini sinna välja mõtles.. nu tule taevas appi.. hele ja ilus futurstliku minimalisltliku multifilmy või ajutise LSD tripijaoks,
Kuid nagu... igast tähendusevaeseid...
ja omakorda kõlab nagu suures palatis oleks see sääl-
Saaks ju vähem kandiliselt ja reaalsete tähendustega... kas see mingi uue robotigeneratsiooni meelitamiseks või ? Sellised ju ei vaatagi seda ja ega see... mis ime .. kuida sseda asja väljavabandada..
Mis selle jobudusega see Nod99 sai hakkama v?
nende inimeste nimesi sooviks küll
ja nende ka kes vastu olid
igaveseks ajaks riigiasjade kaunistamisest ja korraldamisest eemale hoida
Kuid nagu... igast tähendusevaeseid...
ja omakorda kõlab nagu suures palatis oleks see sääl-
Saaks ju vähem kandiliselt ja reaalsete tähendustega... kas see mingi uue robotigeneratsiooni meelitamiseks või ? Sellised ju ei vaatagi seda ja ega see... mis ime .. kuida sseda asja väljavabandada..
Mis selle jobudusega see Nod99 sai hakkama v?
nende inimeste nimesi sooviks küll
ja nende ka kes vastu olid
igaveseks ajaks riigiasjade kaunistamisest ja korraldamisest eemale hoida
24 February 2018 20:46
Margus Meigo replied to Milvi Malmström's comment.
Group: KODUEESTLASED JA VÄLISEESTLASED.
Vahepeal osasi asj uüllatavalt hästi tõlgib isegi see FB translaator siin24 February 2018 17:26
Margus Meigo commented on Jaa No's post.
Group: Eestlased! ♥
Pihlaka Talu Vaata ka : )24 February 2018 16:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
& siis suur indiaani pealik, veel õnnistas Eestit !
24 February 2018 13:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
someone has to
24 February 2018 04:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
then we become ohh.. this not prophecy, to say we then stat forever in front
24 February 2018 04:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ideaalne
24 February 2018 04:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
loving that gov boss to choose Vimeo
24 February 2018 04:52
Margus Meigo replied to Sven Michelson's comment.
et nii eestlasel, pole vaja isegi nii tõestada, sest teame juba,
Siiramate killast
Rohkem, maa, eestiMaa puumaja elu piltee nüüd
Siiramate killast
Rohkem, maa, eestiMaa puumaja elu piltee nüüd
24 February 2018 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to Sven Michelson's comment.
mõtlesin just sama : :)
24 February 2018 04:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
tead ma mõtleisn, et ma pean vaeva nägema....et teiste privaatsust tõsta kes kelduvad viitsimast isegi koostööd tegema, et asjad sinnamaale saaks, mis aitaks välja soteerida enne avlikustanist selle mis neile sobiks välja jätta j amullegi vast, poleks sellest miskit, aga kui igast pärlid..
//poit selles,et abigi pole, et saaks niii, et neil parem ,kuid seda oodates, vb ei saa varsti midagi laadida enam
//poit selles,et abigi pole, et saaks niii, et neil parem ,kuid seda oodates, vb ei saa varsti midagi laadida enam
24 February 2018 04:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eks me s aresida ka kui vaja ja eks neil endil ka sääl parem, kuigi meil nii monigisee puuvorm saaks ka hakkama,
ehk nüüüd juba viisakas neid me maal kasvatada, hakata arsaama, puu väärtusest,
kui see tase käes..vaadates saepuru ja koort, nahaka mis puidult käristatud,
...siis mõelda seda õrnus mis pidi olema
ehk nüüüd juba viisakas neid me maal kasvatada, hakata arsaama, puu väärtusest,
kui see tase käes..vaadates saepuru ja koort, nahaka mis puidult käristatud,
...siis mõelda seda õrnus mis pidi olema
24 February 2018 04:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
24 February 2018 04:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(this is friendly post)
24 February 2018 04:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi hästi raske oleks Yl või soundcaludil koostöös Facebookiga neid laule kenasti mängitavalt siin anda...
24 February 2018 03:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui juba tüütavaks.. siis jah..aga
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/05-pk-comeback-may
..."kodumaad Sa armastad, kuigi väldid kõiki makse.."
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/05-pk-comeback-may
..."kodumaad Sa armastad, kuigi väldid kõiki makse.."
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/05-pk-comeback-may
24 February 2018 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja mitte me siin Sassafras'e puu E'st eip rääkinud, kuigi, kuigi osad armujõudu tootvad puud meelega eestist emale istutati,
24 February 2018 03:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
...on alati suurem kui ta potensiaal
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/01-pk-koordinaadid
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/01-pk-koordinaadid
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/01-pk-koordinaadid
24 February 2018 03:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Joosep Vau kas tolledest https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/14-pk-palverannak-unplugged?in=pkestonia/sets/pk-laburint saab ju vabalt teha vabalajal ka normaalsed eFfideta varjandid iags dimesioonis kuulamiseks, ... kui see aga vajalik taseme sättimiseks, kinnitamiseks, siis sellekohane märke heli vahele?
Igaljuhul 2:07 järgne..peab olema ka ...ja siis kogu see asi saab ilma selle raskuseta veelgi parem, ingitiivad saavad samavalgelt särada veelgi heledamas maailmas kui puhastus tiivades teha
Igaljuhul 2:07 järgne..peab olema ka ...ja siis kogu see asi saab ilma selle raskuseta veelgi parem, ingitiivad saavad samavalgelt särada veelgi heledamas maailmas kui puhastus tiivades teha
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/14-pk-palverannak-unplugged?in=pkestonia/sets/pk-laburint
24 February 2018 03:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
loodetavasti seda vähesed nävad ainult:
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/10-pk-genotsiid-may?in=pkestonia/sets/pk-laburint
Kuid see osa, mis "uuendusvõimelise "
asja osas
--
sellega sedasi, et mõeldud need kes sedasi algse inimese poolt vandina paigale ehmatati,
kuid vaja oleks mitte doggy vaid misonary
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/10-pk-genotsiid-may?in=pkestonia/sets/pk-laburint
Kuid see osa, mis "uuendusvõimelise "
asja osas
--
sellega sedasi, et mõeldud need kes sedasi algse inimese poolt vandina paigale ehmatati,
kuid vaja oleks mitte doggy vaid misonary
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/10-pk-genotsiid-may?in=pkestonia/sets/pk-laburint
24 February 2018 03:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kids
24 February 2018 02:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid kahjuks nii ka,
so look out Kits
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-sub-zero-chillim
///Saad samaga vastu
so look out Kits
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-sub-zero-chillim
///Saad samaga vastu
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-sub-zero-chillim
24 February 2018 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
jah need ka, ise ka n00r,
noorem veel
"oled programeeritud ... mind"
kuid nuh... küll.. üleprogeme...oneway...on many ways
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/lunastus-akar
noorem veel
"oled programeeritud ... mind"
kuid nuh... küll.. üleprogeme...oneway...on many ways
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/lunastus-akar
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/lunastus-akar
24 February 2018 01:53
Margus Meigo commented on Rahvusliku taassünni nimel's photo.
Kuidas me vabaks saame, on õige küsimus
23 February 2018 21:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja ustavust, alluvust
23 February 2018 21:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sama katekooria ebaloogilisus, kui lipsukandmine et oma korralikust näidata
23 February 2018 21:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
me kultuurile see ei sobi, endiselt
23 February 2018 21:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"eri rahvaste folkloori ja religiooni võrdlev uurimine & mitmekümne eksootilise ja kultuuritippude iidsete tarkuste, ajaloo, kultuuri otse tõlkimine & tõlgendamine...."
Vot need on juba tasemed mida saab kultuuriks ja kultuuri vaimu kaitseks nimetada
Vot need on juba tasemed mida saab kultuuriks ja kultuuri vaimu kaitseks nimetada
23 February 2018 18:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
When there is 2 sides to choose from,
Seemed like proper good dividing between values
Seemed like proper good dividing between values
23 February 2018 17:57
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Ega seda muidugi praegused aujärje kandjad ei sooviks oma kuulda võtta ka, eks tuleb vaadayta, kes need olid kes teda kõll mürgitada jms proovisid, vb tõesti palgati UK spetsid, sest khalikud pätid ja kõriuloikajad ei saanud hakkama // kogub veel
23 February 2018 17:24
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
tnx
23 February 2018 17:23
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
ma arvasin, et suht sarnaste jõudega pundis kes bolsevikudega kogu ülejäänud kuninglikuse ka säält maalt pühkis
23 February 2018 17:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Merle Kaljundi kohe ema
23 February 2018 17:12
Margus Meigo commented on Ragnar Taru's post.
Kui ta alkomahavõtmise rohelise ja seentega asendab, siis päris hea progress,
Muidugi, ega me seente ja roheliseni muidu ei jõuagi kui alkouimas, eksenne tulebki kaineks saada, seega ma lootuses hindan ta eesmärgi heaks .
Muidugi, ega me seente ja roheliseni muidu ei jõuagi kui alkouimas, eksenne tulebki kaineks saada, seega ma lootuses hindan ta eesmärgi heaks .
23 February 2018 17:06
Margus Meigo commented on Ragnar Taru's post.
Konkreetne vend
23 February 2018 17:03
Margus Meigo commented on Roland Ernets's post.
kamrid naljad aasias,
tüdrukud just vaatasid, et wau... nii armass... )
tüdrukud just vaatasid, et wau... nii armass... )
23 February 2018 16:54
Margus Meigo commented on Elena Stewart's post.
Tuus
23 February 2018 16:39
Margus Meigo commented on Aadu Birnbaum's post.
Aga mida sina arvad Aadu?
23 February 2018 14:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
viisakusest muud lauljad veelö 1,2,3 klassi toetust saab, 1, on sama mis kodudtuel, teine sama mis hulludel (240) ja kolmas erilistele, 350 u kuus,
Kudne triio ntex erilise osas oleks,
ja kui meri olek solu vast teise peal.
v esimese., mis 140, .
Kuid need ainult sellepärast, et viisaks riik oleks.
ja et ikka aru ka saadaks, kes riigirava arvates riigile kasulik on(riigi rahva saab ka kirjutada riigiraha ... ühe täheline vahe ainult..pea meeles.. kuid me sooviime elusat riiki)
Kudne triio ntex erilise osas oleks,
ja kui meri olek solu vast teise peal.
v esimese., mis 140, .
Kuid need ainult sellepärast, et viisaks riik oleks.
ja et ikka aru ka saadaks, kes riigirava arvates riigile kasulik on(riigi rahva saab ka kirjutada riigiraha ... ühe täheline vahe ainult..pea meeles.. kuid me sooviime elusat riiki)
23 February 2018 05:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(st ku skultuuritegelased ilmselgelt niisama, ei tegele regulaarselt mingite pahedega kui seda tunnustust saab ja veel 5e eelneva kuu maksumus oleks sobilik eelarves valmis hoida inimese viimase pidustuse ja infojagaise ürituse tarvis, kus antaks ekogu material ja asjad, et kellegil raha puuduse tõttu see võimalus oleatuks jääks, et material kadunuks saaks miilllsies iganes jastus keegi hääbiub....kes kora juba loonu dolulist me riigile seda mäelatakse)
23 February 2018 05:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
palgasuhte loogika selgitan hiljem ,arvesse võetud niii sotsaalsete eelarvamuste kui ka reaalsete vajaduste, ning potensiaalse säästmsie ja eelarve kaitsmist
23 February 2018 05:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ilmakysimata kas ta müüb midagi,
sepeaks näieks täis ebasigadus olema (nu mu arvates on siga hea..) kui Tõnise, Siiri või isegi mingis mõttes vb isegi Koidu Toome, kuid arvatavsti kindlamini Terminaatori laulja (kuigi mitte sellisel tasemel järelpensionipalk ei peaks tal olema kui tegevloojate, Tõnise omast Siiril veelgi kõvem palk peak solema, ja tõnisel omakorda kõrgem Terminaatorist, ja siiril omakorda kindlasti 3 korda rohkem kui terminaatori vabaaja maksed, mis peaksid oelm apissavad, Kreegil, et elda üle keskmis etagasi hoidlikult hästi.)
see oleks alg normaal tase kui riik oleks EESTIMAA suunaline
sepeaks näieks täis ebasigadus olema (nu mu arvates on siga hea..) kui Tõnise, Siiri või isegi mingis mõttes vb isegi Koidu Toome, kuid arvatavsti kindlamini Terminaatori laulja (kuigi mitte sellisel tasemel järelpensionipalk ei peaks tal olema kui tegevloojate, Tõnise omast Siiril veelgi kõvem palk peak solema, ja tõnisel omakorda kõrgem Terminaatorist, ja siiril omakorda kindlasti 3 korda rohkem kui terminaatori vabaaja maksed, mis peaksid oelm apissavad, Kreegil, et elda üle keskmis etagasi hoidlikult hästi.)
see oleks alg normaal tase kui riik oleks EESTIMAA suunaline
23 February 2018 05:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tegelikult,
pole muidugi suurt vahet uueaasta möödumisel ja meie riigi lipuhõiskamisel, sest see välispüha, mis me siin aasta takka teiste järgi, kui aastatakka teiste järgi siis valime ise päeva vähemasti mis meiel oluline,
sest kuidas see virtuaalne aastavahetus ..kas meie riiik on ajaga ja aastavahetusega seotud=?
Nu seda nüüd küll vanas mõttes, teatud kauges tarkuses kus me aegruumi loojad, kuid siis see olek sikka nagu riyualistlik enda ülistamine,
kas võidupühadest, janipäevast ja laulupeost jms eip piisa?
Võiks autasustamise ja riiki tunnustamise vahepeal ka teha nii,et tunnustajad riigi loomisesse kaasa aidata saavad paremini, andes neile voimalusi ke sloomis võimelised
pole muidugi suurt vahet uueaasta möödumisel ja meie riigi lipuhõiskamisel, sest see välispüha, mis me siin aasta takka teiste järgi, kui aastatakka teiste järgi siis valime ise päeva vähemasti mis meiel oluline,
sest kuidas see virtuaalne aastavahetus ..kas meie riiik on ajaga ja aastavahetusega seotud=?
Nu seda nüüd küll vanas mõttes, teatud kauges tarkuses kus me aegruumi loojad, kuid siis see olek sikka nagu riyualistlik enda ülistamine,
kas võidupühadest, janipäevast ja laulupeost jms eip piisa?
Võiks autasustamise ja riiki tunnustamise vahepeal ka teha nii,et tunnustajad riigi loomisesse kaasa aidata saavad paremini, andes neile voimalusi ke sloomis võimelised
23 February 2018 05:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
LongWave
23 February 2018 05:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but this, of course You can not ...
well. lost my strai of thought, but Radio Free America or Radio Free Europe
well. lost my strai of thought, but Radio Free America or Radio Free Europe
23 February 2018 05:21
Margus Meigo replied to Laura E. Sotomayor's comment.
Is this some-kind of joke, scam or sales trick?
23 February 2018 05:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
neid aju palju nainu dkus loogiakaga, kuivatamis projekt kunagi oli neil käsil..kus ehitati karp mis pidi siis ...
ei nohehitati kuagi kohti ebapraktilsielt ja mi svõimladasid...
--
loodusele neil löögi anda kui seda markamatult palju üle maa tehakse j
//ah las see olla
ei nohehitati kuagi kohti ebapraktilsielt ja mi svõimladasid...
--
loodusele neil löögi anda kui seda markamatult palju üle maa tehakse j
//ah las see olla
23 February 2018 05:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
umbes 12-15 cm torust , voolikust pool kerge survega tugevalt,
et ei kujuta ette kui palju vett siis minema lasti ja kas see norm tegu , et muidu ei saa keldrit kuivaks bvms.....aga mis siis arvas kui ehitab augu koht akus vesi
et ei kujuta ette kui palju vett siis minema lasti ja kas see norm tegu , et muidu ei saa keldrit kuivaks bvms.....aga mis siis arvas kui ehitab augu koht akus vesi
23 February 2018 05:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nädalaid...kuid vast isegi..
23 February 2018 05:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid kui vaja masinad taha kunagi panna, et saaks hakata neist kohtadest välja imemea vett... suuuri maisnaid ja ärisi leaalset saab... linnas nad panid kuudeks jooksma SUUUURE veetoru otse kalisatsiooni, ... üks veel ütles, inimene, et ah se selleks, et puud ümbertringi öö kuivatada,
kuid ka mulje oli pigem, et pooleni kaevu ehitamine või mingi ehituse ajutine asi seoses veega
kuid ka mulje oli pigem, et pooleni kaevu ehitamine või mingi ehituse ajutine asi seoses veega
23 February 2018 05:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Küsimus oli Eestlastele, sest
need maad kus pole vet, kes sinna elama sünnitatud või kus kohas see saab teoreetiliselt otsa saada ja is saab neist rikkuritest kes me maal hakkavad vett suure raha eest välja müüma kui mujal mine te mis juhutb kuid niisamagi, odavalt tühjaks...
selleks ettevalmistatud palju uusi mehaniisi läbipuuritud...
räägiti, et Käruski vesi sogaseks songiti jäädavalt
need maad kus pole vet, kes sinna elama sünnitatud või kus kohas see saab teoreetiliselt otsa saada ja is saab neist rikkuritest kes me maal hakkavad vett suure raha eest välja müüma kui mujal mine te mis juhutb kuid niisamagi, odavalt tühjaks...
selleks ettevalmistatud palju uusi mehaniisi läbipuuritud...
räägiti, et Käruski vesi sogaseks songiti jäädavalt
23 February 2018 05:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I mena, was A... was a...
// Okey, this was from Germans, right
But, was Raspuning working on the side of Good prophecy , helping in direction of good,
and secretly play .. and so they took hes play and made real belief out of it as the Old family, who know the secret and planned to talk about it was eliminated in this scale that good Godly people even was not prepared bir.... actually, many was, ready to show them last time what belief in to God meant, and took that calmly, when knowing last fight is not needed, but trusted the sabadges, to hurtthem less so they did nottook their own live, but trust it on the hands of most oppeonents of the good.
// Okey, this was from Germans, right
But, was Raspuning working on the side of Good prophecy , helping in direction of good,
and secretly play .. and so they took hes play and made real belief out of it as the Old family, who know the secret and planned to talk about it was eliminated in this scale that good Godly people even was not prepared bir.... actually, many was, ready to show them last time what belief in to God meant, and took that calmly, when knowing last fight is not needed, but trusted the sabadges, to hurtthem less so they did nottook their own live, but trust it on the hands of most oppeonents of the good.
23 February 2018 04:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So is forgivable to Rüütel,
(one is Rüütel for hoiaks..)
to mess or miss the dates compared to so much what what humans them self have forgot
and just talk to each other as strangers
(one is Rüütel for hoiaks..)
to mess or miss the dates compared to so much what what humans them self have forgot
and just talk to each other as strangers
23 February 2018 03:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
23 February 2018 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
23 February 2018 03:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
OKey, this was pure miracle, that this happen to be fitted like this,
but rest of what was option on these days... You really gottto have something extreme importance to say to properly bring out their ..
aah, look yourself, the other options what was available... at some moments,
// this is ALSO A.I. usable test to see and learn by unknown source.
Some agency even are trained to obey to the ones who think they have right to say who they not
//and then some thing, Workers, that it can EVER be finally correct to obay orders of who is not complete known who one is in any high importance direction that owns influence
but rest of what was option on these days... You really gottto have something extreme importance to say to properly bring out their ..
aah, look yourself, the other options what was available... at some moments,
// this is ALSO A.I. usable test to see and learn by unknown source.
Some agency even are trained to obey to the ones who think they have right to say who they not
//and then some thing, Workers, that it can EVER be finally correct to obay orders of who is not complete known who one is in any high importance direction that owns influence
23 February 2018 03:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(2 good smartnesses one and another and then top smartness sticks out... but if You like it SO much why not have cacke where it is opposite, thin layer weath crusttop oof 10cm goodsockolate)
23 February 2018 03:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
koigeparema kihi esiletoomiseks,
on vaja paar head kihti vaheldumisi ja siis dataandmetelt või reaalsusastmelt tihedamalt vingem ehk koogi sokolaadipeale kiht
on vaja paar head kihti vaheldumisi ja siis dataandmetelt või reaalsusastmelt tihedamalt vingem ehk koogi sokolaadipeale kiht
23 February 2018 03:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yes and what do we see wit hit.. 7 sparks fits easily,
23 February 2018 03:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ooh its a public.. i guess it was planned so...
(but trick to keep Great plan in mind when plan higher then Mosque is on mind)
(but trick to keep Great plan in mind when plan higher then Mosque is on mind)
23 February 2018 03:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(for my mother)
23 February 2018 02:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//maybe some day
//oh noo, it was not the case of Johhny Cash,
for me,
But i admired hes gangsta way of knowingly losing instead of taking rest ing a country side, this is the city-mans sad ending ...
// perhaps this is the new America Hääl?
//that Estoniains invented, whatever,
But that they was able to infect me with the signal of this Mayor soviettime Western Radiostation
//oh noo, it was not the case of Johhny Cash,
for me,
But i admired hes gangsta way of knowingly losing instead of taking rest ing a country side, this is the city-mans sad ending ...
// perhaps this is the new America Hääl?
//that Estoniains invented, whatever,
But that they was able to infect me with the signal of this Mayor soviettime Western Radiostation
23 February 2018 02:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
simple as that, and we can easy start to build a basement to this.. and try not to keep legend out of me who stay poor for long for whatever reason
23 February 2018 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
can You imagine if i would get simple help to upload all the material and idea notifications u pto internet and on to proper platform,
as it is a bit Fixed .. to say at best,
then right now what you see depends on code,
but in future of ours more logical approach would be total video freedom over pixels as you draw or say what you want, and out of what is possible, this will be made
as it is a bit Fixed .. to say at best,
then right now what you see depends on code,
but in future of ours more logical approach would be total video freedom over pixels as you draw or say what you want, and out of what is possible, this will be made
23 February 2018 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but this statement has no worth on hight, comapred to main post true sensire thinkings, whaen that was with a bit friendly way posted, as illustration
23 February 2018 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This is absolute Best that was possible to choose, form Master : Maximum Soice of images from PRE MADE OPTIONS (klike Changing backround on to where You can Write...even on deisnger mode and the nwrite on this..Text that is Google Searchable (and is illegal to DENAY copyng of text, this must end, that some sites, make it harder to own what i see, in FREAKING INTERNET, it's DiGiTal, you now, you forget? Sharing here ADDS to the value, You ... (world be worth insult here)).)
23 February 2018 02:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as who loves family mebers, will surelly care to help them if they can choose anyone, then form making good is normal to offr family first,
But then, how to make the sure thing,
that this moment anymore You can keep the,,
the .... ooohPljäää..... wanemad ei teadnutki mida nad sünnitasid, motle ki nii oleks :D
(motleb nii mõnigi)
But then, how to make the sure thing,
that this moment anymore You can keep the,,
the .... ooohPljäää..... wanemad ei teadnutki mida nad sünnitasid, motle ki nii oleks :D
(motleb nii mõnigi)
23 February 2018 02:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
onupojapoliitika is the only normal way, for family lovers
23 February 2018 02:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(Not Estonia Local one but ability to connect one final Sertified base, of cleanest of trusts,
and the trust can move, most move, when trust moves, but surelly, this have t , have to be between friends)
and the trust can move, most move, when trust moves, but surelly, this have t , have to be between friends)
23 February 2018 02:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Basically user information and ingegration to our global X-Tee World.Wide.Wersion,
23 February 2018 02:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Also we should have more in Depth information who is a human,
and the aria of mentalaty from where the firma connections reside and who is the people family mentalaty a//
and the aria of mentalaty from where the firma connections reside and who is the people family mentalaty a//
23 February 2018 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
For Example,
Normal people like me, should have way more dimensions to manage my contact and their numbers
Normal people like me, should have way more dimensions to manage my contact and their numbers
23 February 2018 02:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
o, Sorry, i got Carryed away,
Just tryng to explain the total spectrum what is taken in to account, in possibilities what We have to be more royal,
//is the point in shortened
Just tryng to explain the total spectrum what is taken in to account, in possibilities what We have to be more royal,
//is the point in shortened
23 February 2018 02:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
PLEASE, FACEBOOK;
Facebook & Any ideological group like Facebook Security,
I swear to work for free, for you the facebook awasamness 3 times,
by EMOR and other professional estimates in clobal leaders.
Anyway, and whorst case i just need ordinary avarage Estonian livingcosts from // avarage, Estonian living outsider cost to enjoy local high class living = is menat their kind of realaty that is the final world in where Would you prefer to go, with Your girlfriends,
and family, if the option of anykind of physical world direction would be possible, then country one evewntualy would win by long time among all normal Earthlanders Who love Woman
Facebook & Any ideological group like Facebook Security,
I swear to work for free, for you the facebook awasamness 3 times,
by EMOR and other professional estimates in clobal leaders.
Anyway, and whorst case i just need ordinary avarage Estonian livingcosts from // avarage, Estonian living outsider cost to enjoy local high class living = is menat their kind of realaty that is the final world in where Would you prefer to go, with Your girlfriends,
and family, if the option of anykind of physical world direction would be possible, then country one evewntualy would win by long time among all normal Earthlanders Who love Woman
23 February 2018 02:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
not remembering these times, are you?
well, but am remembering greener, calm, serious and beautiful future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGBM5vWiBLo
well, but am remembering greener, calm, serious and beautiful future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGBM5vWiBLo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGBM5vWiBLo
23 February 2018 02:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
these expressions..expressionless expressions...that you know lasting as long the program are prostrated, in a way that it is... at best they just pick up few heads.. who come up with something else.. that will be swallowed..
Song is true but not applying to me,
ever-newer will not be dreaming of death,
just the worry is... that You will dye before we can see what is possible to do.
i cant dye anymore but that's another story ..and is that sad or relief, who knows.. to see all the pain you can and know how but late to remove... when you see help you can do but not to apply that.. is that actually a greater pain as the one who does harm fill they care to feel one by one, and all, at total, what anyone feels and what greatness for so many will be unarcived... and feel self guilt for these... pains...that you cause by not being able to help...better....as not seeing one soul jet who would trust, believe... as nearly anyone will do who is able to trust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H42q3j55wKQ
Song is true but not applying to me,
ever-newer will not be dreaming of death,
just the worry is... that You will dye before we can see what is possible to do.
i cant dye anymore but that's another story ..and is that sad or relief, who knows.. to see all the pain you can and know how but late to remove... when you see help you can do but not to apply that.. is that actually a greater pain as the one who does harm fill they care to feel one by one, and all, at total, what anyone feels and what greatness for so many will be unarcived... and feel self guilt for these... pains...that you cause by not being able to help...better....as not seeing one soul jet who would trust, believe... as nearly anyone will do who is able to trust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H42q3j55wKQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H42q3j55wKQ
23 February 2018 01:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AHs7uAV1mA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AHs7uAV1mA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AHs7uAV1mA
23 February 2018 01:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ah, ükskõik
23 February 2018 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjJHH6IL3Nc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjJHH6IL3Nc
23 February 2018 01:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(mõtlen veel mis lahendus, veel ei tea, kuid tean, kummal poolel on õigus ja kuida smidagigi saab paremaks teha, turvalisuse suunas)
Kui lillelaps saadab mulle siiralt FOX illusioon uudiste linke ning naerab eluterves CNN uudisteklipi üle kus otse näod, nimed, täis video jne kõik näha... siis siin polegi mõtet suurtematele pointidele enam.
Ära keelata on samalihtne kui hunnikutlt kasvatamatult lastelt kes suhkrusõltuvaks tehtud korjata üleöö kommid käest,
ehk siis mitte.
(kui kõik riigiteenrid välja jätta, siis tavainiestest)
Realva tohiks omada korraliku sõjaväe ja treening taustaga inimene, kellel on läbitud vaimne psühedeelne kursus kus järgikontrollitakse kas ta on vankumatult Jumalausuline.
Kui inimene ei saa aru mis on elu ja mis on surm ja teis eelu võtmine, miks anda talle tööriistu mille ainuke eesmärk on teistelt ideaalis elu võtta?
Kuid eelkõige peaks likivdeerima tavameediast pidevad tulistamised ja tava uudistest sõjad,
selleks eraldi kanal kus faktilised uudised kuritööde , õnnetuste ja sõja osas. Mitte kindlasti ei tohiks tavauudistes olla rohkemat kui vihje teisele kanalile, kellaajaliselt, kus väga vajalik märge tehakse millegi ohtliku osas,
Mis keegi usub, et päriselt usas kunagi keegi hakkaks nagu vanas vabadusvõitluses om ariigi sõdurite vastu võitlema või kambas, see oleks päris arulage.
Mida nad võiks teha, need kellel meeldib tulistada, mingu tänavatesse kus PÄRIS gängid usas, ja hakaku sääl koristama ja korda looma,
aga näe, ei julgeta, selleasemel igast illusioonsete vaenlaste tarvis kogutakse keldritesse kümneid relvi, et rikastada RELVA MÄNGUASJU müües neid , kes PÄRIS relvasi ehitavad nende rahadega, nende kannudega mänjate ja teiste vangistamiseks.
Kuigi ega elvad ei vangista vaid see mõttemall mida need toodavad,
ise lasevad inimesed ennast läbi tõmmata vaimselt ja korporatsioonidel füüsiliselt sõltuvusainetega ning elektro-psycholoogiliselt veel ajupesusõltuvus info ja elektroonika osas...
ja siis hoiavad oma relvakannist kinni,sellega lubades, andes võimaluse päris pttidele lihtsalt relvaomamise võimaluseks..et rohkem karta oleks...
tava rahvas ei oskaks kunagi iseseisvalt kordineeritult koos mingit rinnet moodustada ühegi pealetunguva jõu vastu (kellel nii meegli sasi ajavad keemiarelvad kui superior sidevahendid ja teistesidevahendite likvideerimise võimalused), ammugi midagi asjalikku peale hakatud kui vastane võidetud peaks olema.
Lisaks elementaarne on, et tavarahva sekka saab iga vastane ennast peita ja seestpoolt hävitada ilmselge lihtsusega samalajal, kui ennast mundrimeeste sekka teeselda organiseeritult suudaks mõnes filmis skiptis parimal juhul üksikud.
debiilsus oleks mõelda, et relvadest siin kasu oleks tava inimestel mingi suure jõu vastu. Ainukeseks erandiks vb, need linnad kus gängidest puhastatud veel pole, et nende naabritel jah..kuid nad sõjaväe teenistusega enamus ja niiigi olemas.
relvapobleem mu arust pea olematu võrreldes üldsite probleemide osas
totter on, et sellest teema tehtud on, nagu see kunagi päriselt ohus oleks. see relvaäri.
Loomulikult inimesed arenevad ja pole vaja inimestel relvasi, mis kaugelt teisi äratapavad, piisab nugadest. Kuigi ka need, mugavad on keelatud osad Eestis, ma ei saa aru miks.
nüüd vb juba saan ka.
igast tulistamise jama tootvate inimeste profiilid peaks üleval olema ja neilt pärima pidevalt, e kas nad midagi loomingulisemat ei suuda, loovusekääbikud,
ja siis häbipostid teha node filmi ja lugude autorite tarvis, kes arutut vägivalda toodavad, pangu oma putka kinni, jama pole vaja toota, seda rohkem kui tarvis ammu juba.
pole vaja zombisi toota kui nende invasiooni karta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIdniqkleG4 (filmis kogu seda klipi ...meeles... eks)
Kui lillelaps saadab mulle siiralt FOX illusioon uudiste linke ning naerab eluterves CNN uudisteklipi üle kus otse näod, nimed, täis video jne kõik näha... siis siin polegi mõtet suurtematele pointidele enam.
Ära keelata on samalihtne kui hunnikutlt kasvatamatult lastelt kes suhkrusõltuvaks tehtud korjata üleöö kommid käest,
ehk siis mitte.
(kui kõik riigiteenrid välja jätta, siis tavainiestest)
Realva tohiks omada korraliku sõjaväe ja treening taustaga inimene, kellel on läbitud vaimne psühedeelne kursus kus järgikontrollitakse kas ta on vankumatult Jumalausuline.
Kui inimene ei saa aru mis on elu ja mis on surm ja teis eelu võtmine, miks anda talle tööriistu mille ainuke eesmärk on teistelt ideaalis elu võtta?
Kuid eelkõige peaks likivdeerima tavameediast pidevad tulistamised ja tava uudistest sõjad,
selleks eraldi kanal kus faktilised uudised kuritööde , õnnetuste ja sõja osas. Mitte kindlasti ei tohiks tavauudistes olla rohkemat kui vihje teisele kanalile, kellaajaliselt, kus väga vajalik märge tehakse millegi ohtliku osas,
Mis keegi usub, et päriselt usas kunagi keegi hakkaks nagu vanas vabadusvõitluses om ariigi sõdurite vastu võitlema või kambas, see oleks päris arulage.
Mida nad võiks teha, need kellel meeldib tulistada, mingu tänavatesse kus PÄRIS gängid usas, ja hakaku sääl koristama ja korda looma,
aga näe, ei julgeta, selleasemel igast illusioonsete vaenlaste tarvis kogutakse keldritesse kümneid relvi, et rikastada RELVA MÄNGUASJU müües neid , kes PÄRIS relvasi ehitavad nende rahadega, nende kannudega mänjate ja teiste vangistamiseks.
Kuigi ega elvad ei vangista vaid see mõttemall mida need toodavad,
ise lasevad inimesed ennast läbi tõmmata vaimselt ja korporatsioonidel füüsiliselt sõltuvusainetega ning elektro-psycholoogiliselt veel ajupesusõltuvus info ja elektroonika osas...
ja siis hoiavad oma relvakannist kinni,sellega lubades, andes võimaluse päris pttidele lihtsalt relvaomamise võimaluseks..et rohkem karta oleks...
tava rahvas ei oskaks kunagi iseseisvalt kordineeritult koos mingit rinnet moodustada ühegi pealetunguva jõu vastu (kellel nii meegli sasi ajavad keemiarelvad kui superior sidevahendid ja teistesidevahendite likvideerimise võimalused), ammugi midagi asjalikku peale hakatud kui vastane võidetud peaks olema.
Lisaks elementaarne on, et tavarahva sekka saab iga vastane ennast peita ja seestpoolt hävitada ilmselge lihtsusega samalajal, kui ennast mundrimeeste sekka teeselda organiseeritult suudaks mõnes filmis skiptis parimal juhul üksikud.
debiilsus oleks mõelda, et relvadest siin kasu oleks tava inimestel mingi suure jõu vastu. Ainukeseks erandiks vb, need linnad kus gängidest puhastatud veel pole, et nende naabritel jah..kuid nad sõjaväe teenistusega enamus ja niiigi olemas.
relvapobleem mu arust pea olematu võrreldes üldsite probleemide osas
totter on, et sellest teema tehtud on, nagu see kunagi päriselt ohus oleks. see relvaäri.
Loomulikult inimesed arenevad ja pole vaja inimestel relvasi, mis kaugelt teisi äratapavad, piisab nugadest. Kuigi ka need, mugavad on keelatud osad Eestis, ma ei saa aru miks.
nüüd vb juba saan ka.
igast tulistamise jama tootvate inimeste profiilid peaks üleval olema ja neilt pärima pidevalt, e kas nad midagi loomingulisemat ei suuda, loovusekääbikud,
ja siis häbipostid teha node filmi ja lugude autorite tarvis, kes arutut vägivalda toodavad, pangu oma putka kinni, jama pole vaja toota, seda rohkem kui tarvis ammu juba.
pole vaja zombisi toota kui nende invasiooni karta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIdniqkleG4 (filmis kogu seda klipi ...meeles... eks)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIdniqkleG4
23 February 2018 01:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ise USAs elanud, peaksid teadma, kõik mu usa tuttavad indiana ja texase jms kohtadest, teavad rääkida, et suht iga üks saab lihtsalt söbrale, kellele iganes , osta mis iganes kogus relvi,
päris imbetsill peba olema, kui USAs ei saaks relvaostmisega hakkama,
päris imbetsill peba olema, kui USAs ei saaks relvaostmisega hakkama,
23 February 2018 00:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Andreas Kõrgend mis arvasid, et reaalselt ka keegi kontrollib midagi või?
Sellised "liberal proovis osta aga ei saanud" SEE oli propakanda, juhuks kui Sa aru ei saanud
Sellised "liberal proovis osta aga ei saanud" SEE oli propakanda, juhuks kui Sa aru ei saanud
23 February 2018 00:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
reaalne case on rohkem selline:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB7MwvqCtlk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB7MwvqCtlk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB7MwvqCtlk
23 February 2018 00:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
NU jah.. õiguse päris noortel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86xdJH_XprE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86xdJH_XprE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86xdJH_XprE
23 February 2018 00:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Andreas Kõrgend backroud cecky tehakse healjuhul pangast kui relvajaoks raha võlgu võtad
23 February 2018 00:24
Margus Meigo replied to Andreas Kõrgend's comment.
Okey aga milliseid selleks puhuks, kui bolševikud revolutsiooni tegema hakkavad?
23 February 2018 00:22
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Geniaalne
23 February 2018 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
hirmus
23 February 2018 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Kriitikud:
Ta lihtsalt teeskleb, et järgmist toosi saada
Ta lihtsalt teeskleb, et järgmist toosi saada
23 February 2018 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
päris suur blotter esimesel tüübil kaasas, peaks järgmise milenniumini aitama
23 February 2018 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
klassika
23 February 2018 00:13
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Ei oska valida, ka snutta või naerda, kuid fb ainult ühe emotsiooni lubab korraga,
23 February 2018 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
23 February 2018 00:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sest perekondlik ja hea, rahulik.
Suga alati tripid rahulikud
Suga alati tripid rahulikud
22 February 2018 23:50
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's photo.
Good times!
Üks meeldejäävamaid trippe
Üks meeldejäävamaid trippe
22 February 2018 23:50
Margus Meigo commented on Joseph David Jeremiah's photo.
Who is this Great Woman ?
22 February 2018 22:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just when i thought nothing can piss me off more then TV6
add,
for horror night, where humans literally was ripped a parts left and right
WTF world, i am ready to start swear again as this is just.. be on ALL logic that this kind of sickness is allowed.,
--
and all that pissed me off before the TV11 sicks Murder Mystery
where you can hear like this beon-gayish narrator is getting off from spinning words of murder and intrigue. As he wold read in... aarhggh.. let it be.. will solve this sickness some day
why in a world of sane people these kind of sickness is allowed to be prodcasted
is like we would not need a professional to understand the "value" of this dark forces that we shave down or face.
it is enough when one family member is addicted to dark magic and likes to look these ind of thing while rest of family suffers and is prepared to next level spiritual overtake,
if not that, psychology will get messed for sure about values and feelings, thoughts and hope
add,
for horror night, where humans literally was ripped a parts left and right
WTF world, i am ready to start swear again as this is just.. be on ALL logic that this kind of sickness is allowed.,
--
and all that pissed me off before the TV11 sicks Murder Mystery
where you can hear like this beon-gayish narrator is getting off from spinning words of murder and intrigue. As he wold read in... aarhggh.. let it be.. will solve this sickness some day
why in a world of sane people these kind of sickness is allowed to be prodcasted
is like we would not need a professional to understand the "value" of this dark forces that we shave down or face.
it is enough when one family member is addicted to dark magic and likes to look these ind of thing while rest of family suffers and is prepared to next level spiritual overtake,
if not that, psychology will get messed for sure about values and feelings, thoughts and hope
22 February 2018 22:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You can hire ALL the resources of greatest artists and mind programmers for ANY direction, for world MOST popular and near richest website, and this is what we get?
WTF is wrong with this world
WTF is wrong with this world
22 February 2018 22:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nad ei ole päris inimesed, teisest liigist
22 February 2018 22:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vabandust üleliia "süüdistus" eest kuid see elementaarne millega peks arvestama, taoliste puhul
22 February 2018 22:09
Margus Meigo commented on Asse Sauga's post.
Aga kas Liiale läks Ernits või olukord?
22 February 2018 20:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nagu need moodsed kivimajad, moderne kunst ja
22 February 2018 20:37
Margus Meigo commented on Asse Sauga's post.
Nu jah, liiale ikka, sest "Moodne" ongi see mis ta kokku sai loetud ju..
22 February 2018 20:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Neil pappi küll, et selliseid vidinaid lasta vlamistada,
tooaeg kui sääl olin siis nad selle püssi laskmise trikki tegid, kus viilisd kuulile märgise, ja lasid selle teisele habavahele
tooaeg kui sääl olin siis nad selle püssi laskmise trikki tegid, kus viilisd kuulile märgise, ja lasid selle teisele habavahele
22 February 2018 20:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Marko Karin :D
22 February 2018 19:48
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
:D
22 February 2018 19:47
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
strange fact:
"Vormiliselt kuuluvad ühehitiimede hulka nii mõnedki superstaarid, näiteks Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Iggy Pop, Norah Jones. Ühehitiimeks võib sedasi lugeda aga ka Garth Brooksi, kes on küll müünud üle 160 miljoni heliplaadi ja kelle albumid on pälvinud 137 plaatinaplaati, aga kellel on edetabeli Billboard Hot 100 40 parima laulu hulka jõudnud üksnes laul "Lost in You" ja sedagi mitte oma nime all, vaid hoopiski kasutades pseudonüümina fiktiivse Austraalia alternatiivrokkari Chris Gainesi nime."
"Vormiliselt kuuluvad ühehitiimede hulka nii mõnedki superstaarid, näiteks Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Iggy Pop, Norah Jones. Ühehitiimeks võib sedasi lugeda aga ka Garth Brooksi, kes on küll müünud üle 160 miljoni heliplaadi ja kelle albumid on pälvinud 137 plaatinaplaati, aga kellel on edetabeli Billboard Hot 100 40 parima laulu hulka jõudnud üksnes laul "Lost in You" ja sedagi mitte oma nime all, vaid hoopiski kasutades pseudonüümina fiktiivse Austraalia alternatiivrokkari Chris Gainesi nime."
22 February 2018 19:12
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
Need tydod vist ei tunne end hästi, et nad on saanud taoliste meemide põhimaterilaiks
22 February 2018 19:09
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
metsameestele see kaite päris kasulik oli
22 February 2018 19:00
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
sa ei kujuta ette kuidas jalle vihastatud sai kui maandusin kava lehele ja sellel polnud veel otse nägemise (molemat versionni, seda mis otse telekast tuleb ja see mis kavas on, ka otse tegekalt lugedes feedy ja seda internetis helikehtivusega kontrollida_kuni see thenoloogia tehtud saab ka avalikule kättesaamaks, kuidas kõike muud moodi kõike esmeid me ümber edukalt reaaljas aidata arendada ja muuta paremaks..)
a mitte sellest polt plaan lugeda, see ekraanikas, nagu.. see lipsugavend ajas solvangu nii ka ülesse, limiteeritud leht ja siis selline venna pilt rahulolvevalt suurelt, mis moodi see sarja sisu edasi peaks andma peale selle, et sellised
ah, ära küsi küsimusi millele vastust ei taha vahest...
peab rohkem peale tegema selliste suuruste arusaamiseks, mõni liik, aga samas mingi muu asi on eriliigil elementaarselt lihtne, // nagu ühtedel globaalsete tarkade arusaamad lihtne paika parandada ja teistel lihtne arusaada konkreetsetest asjadest
agam, see et see viietärniline peab nii ebamugavalt eemaldatav olema... see pole normaalne maailmas, kus ei pea jõu vaid kerguse põhimõtel asjad paremaks muutma ja nende taga olevad füüsilised peaks mõistusepäraselt auväärsete järgi koodimaailmas, toimetama, sedusi seega saame määärata lihtsalt.
a mitte sellest polt plaan lugeda, see ekraanikas, nagu.. see lipsugavend ajas solvangu nii ka ülesse, limiteeritud leht ja siis selline venna pilt rahulolvevalt suurelt, mis moodi see sarja sisu edasi peaks andma peale selle, et sellised
ah, ära küsi küsimusi millele vastust ei taha vahest...
peab rohkem peale tegema selliste suuruste arusaamiseks, mõni liik, aga samas mingi muu asi on eriliigil elementaarselt lihtne, // nagu ühtedel globaalsete tarkade arusaamad lihtne paika parandada ja teistel lihtne arusaada konkreetsetest asjadest
agam, see et see viietärniline peab nii ebamugavalt eemaldatav olema... see pole normaalne maailmas, kus ei pea jõu vaid kerguse põhimõtel asjad paremaks muutma ja nende taga olevad füüsilised peaks mõistusepäraselt auväärsete järgi koodimaailmas, toimetama, sedusi seega saame määärata lihtsalt.
22 February 2018 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
Our cousins are among the best!
22 February 2018 00:30
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov eks seda vähest mis on, seda veel vaja ongi salvestada mujale riigi serveritesse .. seni kuni saab
ja lisaks, see mis utoopiline, sellest ka tõestust sooviks lindistada, tulevikuuuriate jaoks
ja ümbertöötluseks, kommenteerimiseks
ja lisaks, see mis utoopiline, sellest ka tõestust sooviks lindistada, tulevikuuuriate jaoks
ja ümbertöötluseks, kommenteerimiseks
22 February 2018 00:14
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
seda küll, aga kui lindistada ei lase selliselt, et arvutisse saaksid korralikult panna asju, siis põhitööd ikka teha ei saa.
Nu ku iseda ma nii lihtsalt ei saa, et saaksin tavalise pensionärile selle selgeks teha mis moodi eri saateklippe ja täis saateid tutud video portaalidesse laadida
Nu ku iseda ma nii lihtsalt ei saa, et saaksin tavalise pensionärile selle selgeks teha mis moodi eri saateklippe ja täis saateid tutud video portaalidesse laadida
22 February 2018 00:13
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
selleks ka hea, et kui reklaam, siis keerad sellelt kanalilt teisele ja saad tagas ikeerata kui reklaam läbi, et ei peaks ennast ärritama sellest lärmist mis säält tuleb.,
kuid teatud teistel aegadel, reaalsus ja shamanismi jaoks ka tarvis, sissetuunimiseks erinevatele meediakanlaites olevatele meeltele ja siis... nu teha ühteteist mida musugused teha saavad ja saada sõnumeid mida musugused saavad.. .
see jälle jupp muud tehnoloogiat kuidas see praktiliselt ka maisese infossse saada, sest arvan, et need asjad mida öeldakse ,et ei peaks ega tohi, pole vaja ega võimalik ammugi mitte.. et ma ikka proovin need tehnoloogiad kirja ja õpetustesse saada, kui muud ei saa siis mingi filmimateriali ikka sellest saab,m sci-fi osas
kuid teatud teistel aegadel, reaalsus ja shamanismi jaoks ka tarvis, sissetuunimiseks erinevatele meediakanlaites olevatele meeltele ja siis... nu teha ühteteist mida musugused teha saavad ja saada sõnumeid mida musugused saavad.. .
see jälle jupp muud tehnoloogiat kuidas see praktiliselt ka maisese infossse saada, sest arvan, et need asjad mida öeldakse ,et ei peaks ega tohi, pole vaja ega võimalik ammugi mitte.. et ma ikka proovin need tehnoloogiad kirja ja õpetustesse saada, kui muud ei saa siis mingi filmimateriali ikka sellest saab,m sci-fi osas
22 February 2018 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Monitooringuks.
eks see suht limiteeriv oleks,
ja kas nad nelja kontot korraga mängida lubaks. Ikkagi suts ebamugav sedasi,
Eks neid lindistmaisi see starman ka vist ei lase teha kergesti eks? ...imeväärselt taandarenenud muidu üldiselt see meedia ja tehnoloogia, nagu 90 ndate alguses oleme võrreldes sellega, mis ammu peaks olema võimalik juba.
Mul u 15 a tagasi vana telekas oli kasutada, kus kanal kanalis sai vaadata kergesti (said tekitada puldiga teise kanali akna alla, ja siis nende vahel heli ja täis pilti vahetada)
Kuid mugav oleks jah sedasi, et liigud mis iganes ekraanil, paned selle täisekraanile ku ivaja ja samas täisekraani alla väiksed aknad ja kui vaja siis aknad võrdseks neljakesi ekranaile.
ning vlaid mis kanali heli mängib.
Muidugi järelvaatamised on üldiselt suht mõtetud senikaua kui nad täis normaalset lindistust ei luba rakendada kudi hea, et veel seegi on.
Lisaks kustutatakse ka veel järelvaatamisest osadel kanalitel ma tähelepannud..
Vb see starmann sellepärast äraostetigi, et ta proovis asju inimlikumaks muutma hakata ( isegi nende kasutajakonto haldus süsteem suht normaalne oli ja hoids meeles mu vanad Euro alguse aegsed lisa sissemaksed )
eks see suht limiteeriv oleks,
ja kas nad nelja kontot korraga mängida lubaks. Ikkagi suts ebamugav sedasi,
Eks neid lindistmaisi see starman ka vist ei lase teha kergesti eks? ...imeväärselt taandarenenud muidu üldiselt see meedia ja tehnoloogia, nagu 90 ndate alguses oleme võrreldes sellega, mis ammu peaks olema võimalik juba.
Mul u 15 a tagasi vana telekas oli kasutada, kus kanal kanalis sai vaadata kergesti (said tekitada puldiga teise kanali akna alla, ja siis nende vahel heli ja täis pilti vahetada)
Kuid mugav oleks jah sedasi, et liigud mis iganes ekraanil, paned selle täisekraanile ku ivaja ja samas täisekraani alla väiksed aknad ja kui vaja siis aknad võrdseks neljakesi ekranaile.
ning vlaid mis kanali heli mängib.
Muidugi järelvaatamised on üldiselt suht mõtetud senikaua kui nad täis normaalset lindistust ei luba rakendada kudi hea, et veel seegi on.
Lisaks kustutatakse ka veel järelvaatamisest osadel kanalitel ma tähelepannud..
Vb see starmann sellepärast äraostetigi, et ta proovis asju inimlikumaks muutma hakata ( isegi nende kasutajakonto haldus süsteem suht normaalne oli ja hoids meeles mu vanad Euro alguse aegsed lisa sissemaksed )
22 February 2018 00:07
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
see oleks porno hiirega, aga okey nu hädapärast saab.
Kuid mis moodi siis Sa need preemium kanalid, neli korraga arvuti ekraanil mängima saad ?
Kui palju need lepingud maksaks,
ja se oleks ju äärmine jamadus, hakata igat kanalit ükshaaval kuskilt browseritest paika panema ja siis mängitama, see rikuks kogu mõtte ära selline algeline setup.
Seda jah, et linuxis 4 ekraani korraga ja siis ükshaaval sääl..
siis eraldi tervet arvutit peab hoidma lisaks telekale veel aga noh.. tegelikult vaja oleks, kergelt kanalilt kanalile ja kohe nupuvajutusega lindistus jms ninnid nännid ka hiljem, kuid see järgmine aste
Vaja on et kanalid oleks kergesti valitavad, ning helid kergesti kanalite vahel vahetatavad, mitte rohkem kui kahe klikiga
Kuid mis moodi siis Sa need preemium kanalid, neli korraga arvuti ekraanil mängima saad ?
Kui palju need lepingud maksaks,
ja se oleks ju äärmine jamadus, hakata igat kanalit ükshaaval kuskilt browseritest paika panema ja siis mängitama, see rikuks kogu mõtte ära selline algeline setup.
Seda jah, et linuxis 4 ekraani korraga ja siis ükshaaval sääl..
siis eraldi tervet arvutit peab hoidma lisaks telekale veel aga noh.. tegelikult vaja oleks, kergelt kanalilt kanalile ja kohe nupuvajutusega lindistus jms ninnid nännid ka hiljem, kuid see järgmine aste
Vaja on et kanalid oleks kergesti valitavad, ning helid kergesti kanalite vahel vahetatavad, mitte rohkem kui kahe klikiga
21 February 2018 23:46
Margus Meigo commented on Tobias Anand Schneider's photo.
Great step from ordinary boxes
21 February 2018 22:26
Margus Meigo commented on Tobias Anand Schneider's post.
Hey, i did not find any Wikipedia article about Alsdorfer & History Society
Can someone make?
Can someone make?
21 February 2018 22:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Tänud Liilian Vilumets & Ilme Ka : )21 February 2018 22:17
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
mis moodi Sa preemium kanalid mugavalt puldiga heli edasitagasi vahetades selle arvutiga toimetad siis.
21 February 2018 21:10
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja siis, edasi ?
21 February 2018 21:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
niisama ekraane veel 4 kokku panna ka võimlaus, miskis muus olukorras, aga siin mitte valik
https://www.amazon.com/Quad-Monitor-stand-Fully-adjustable/dp/B001HHNRFK
https://www.amazon.com/Quad-Monitor-stand-Fully-adjustable/dp/B001HHNRFK
https://www.amazon.com/Quad-Monitor-stand-Fully-adjustable/dp/B001HHNRFK
21 February 2018 20:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sellest liinist veel,
eraldi seadmena see vist päris mõistlik
https://www.rgb.com/support/quadview-hdx-hdxv-multiviewers
eraldi seadmena see vist päris mõistlik
https://www.rgb.com/support/quadview-hdx-hdxv-multiviewers
https://www.rgb.com/support/quadview-hdx-hdxv-multiviewers
21 February 2018 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See päris viisakas ka osati, kuid jällegi oleks hea.. vähem karpe..
kas TV teenused üldse lubaksid korraga 4+ kanalit jälida meie elionidel ja starmanidel ?
http://www.ambery.com/pivipr.html
kas TV teenused üldse lubaksid korraga 4+ kanalit jälida meie elionidel ja starmanidel ?
http://www.ambery.com/pivipr.html
http://www.ambery.com/pivipr.html
21 February 2018 20:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu muidugi tarkvaraliselt ka, telekates see ka reaalne lahendus
http://www.samsung.com/ae/smarthub/html/screen.html
http://www.samsung.com/ae/smarthub/html/screen.html
http://www.samsung.com/ae/smarthub/html/screen.html
21 February 2018 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Arvutis muidugi lihtne
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/how-to-split-your-screen-in-windows-10/
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/how-to-split-your-screen-in-windows-10/
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/how-to-split-your-screen-in-windows-10/
21 February 2018 19:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Päris miskeid klaase ei soovi pähe toppida,
nagu siin
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/people-can-now-simultaneously-watch-different-shows-on-the-same-tv-180947762/
nagu siin
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/people-can-now-simultaneously-watch-different-shows-on-the-same-tv-180947762/
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/people-can-now-simultaneously-watch-different-shows-on-the-same-tv-180947762/
21 February 2018 19:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Toomas Sirge vahest parem, kui ainult need saavad kes püüavad ja soovivad,
muidugi, õigus suuresplaanis.
selles pole kahtlus,
kuid suurem mure praegu maailmas on, et enamus kes keelt kasutavad, korrektselt, ei saa aru milleks keelt kasutada ja kasutavad seda väga valel eesmärgil, osad lausa valetavad
muidugi, õigus suuresplaanis.
selles pole kahtlus,
kuid suurem mure praegu maailmas on, et enamus kes keelt kasutavad, korrektselt, ei saa aru milleks keelt kasutada ja kasutavad seda väga valel eesmärgil, osad lausa valetavad
21 February 2018 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
While going to direction of another extreme, yes, one looks honorable in facial looks and proper in wealth and heritage but hobby and clothing is this what worry us. As in whole, this is not an honorable to slave, torture, hunt and burn animals for sport & hobby. for starters.
Anyways, another honorable
but who has managed to keep their life private and personal life acts proper on public eye.
"THE Hereditary Keeper of Raglan Castle, David Somerset, the 11th Duke of Beaufort
The former lieutenant of the Coldstream Guards, has a wife Miranda, and four children, Harry, Anne, Edward and John. He is succeeded by his eldest son Harry, the Marquess of Worcester.
he duke was the president of the Badminton Horse Trials which is held on the family estate every year in early May.
He leaves behind an estimated £315million fortune including the 52,000-acre estate and lands in Wales, including the site of the ill-fated Circuit of Wales.
Raglan Castle, the family seat of the Somerset family until the Civil War, remained in the family’s ownership until 1938 when Henry Somerset, the 10th Duke, entrusted its guardianship to the Commissioner of Works, and the castle became a permanent tourist attraction with the Duke given the title of Hereditary Keeper.
Today, the Raglan is classed as a Grade I listed building and is administered by Cadw, attracting thousands of visitors from all over the world, each year
http://www.abergavennychronicle.com/article.cfm?id=106310&headline=The%20Duke%20of%20Beaufort%20the%20Hereditary%20Keeper%20of%20Raglan%20Castle%20dies%20at%20the%20age%20of%2089§ionIs=news&searchyear=2017
"David Somerset was the second son of Captain Henry Robert Somers FitzRoy de Vere Somerset (1898—1965), by his marriage in 1922 to Bettine Violet Malcolm, a daughter of Major C. E. Malcolm. ] He was educated at Eton College. His father was the grandson of Lord Henry Somerset, second son of the 8th Duke of Beaufort and the temperance activist Lady Isabella Somers-Cocks. He and his family were descended in the male line from Edward III of England; the first Somerset was a legitimised son of Henry Beaufort, Duke of Somerset, whose grandfather was a legitimized son of John of Gaunt. By the time he succeeded as Duke he was therefore considered the senior representative of the House of Plantagenet, through a legitimised line.[
Somerset and his older brother John and younger sister Elizabeth were fifth cousins once removed of the Princess Elizabeth, soon to become heir to the throne, through their common ancestor, Garret Wesley, 1st Earl of Mornington, an Anglo-Irish peer.[ More importantly, Somerset's father was the heir presumptive to the Dukedom of Beaufort and the large estates attached to it. By the time he was about twelve, it was becoming clear that his father's third cousin Henry Somerset, 10th Duke of Beaufort, was unlikely to have a son, unless his childless wife Mary Somerset, Duchess of Beaufort, died and he remarried, and that Somerset's father and elder brother were almost the heirs apparent. ] And then the outlook changed in April 1945, when his elder brother John Alexander Somerset was killed in action in the Allied invasion of Germany. As a result, Somerset himself became the likely heir.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-duke-of-beaufort-obituary-zg3bcwdgm
// yes am do keep rights to fix and tune, train and even harsher, to any length of ranks, even generalismus, Generalissimo deserves a helpful caring criticism if they clearly stepping off from Earth norms among Earth people in where they wish to deserve a respecto
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalissimo)
//okey perhaps some proper crazy ones would not comment also for safety reasons but would put comment around ones culture
Anyways, another honorable
but who has managed to keep their life private and personal life acts proper on public eye.
"THE Hereditary Keeper of Raglan Castle, David Somerset, the 11th Duke of Beaufort
The former lieutenant of the Coldstream Guards, has a wife Miranda, and four children, Harry, Anne, Edward and John. He is succeeded by his eldest son Harry, the Marquess of Worcester.
he duke was the president of the Badminton Horse Trials which is held on the family estate every year in early May.
He leaves behind an estimated £315million fortune including the 52,000-acre estate and lands in Wales, including the site of the ill-fated Circuit of Wales.
Raglan Castle, the family seat of the Somerset family until the Civil War, remained in the family’s ownership until 1938 when Henry Somerset, the 10th Duke, entrusted its guardianship to the Commissioner of Works, and the castle became a permanent tourist attraction with the Duke given the title of Hereditary Keeper.
Today, the Raglan is classed as a Grade I listed building and is administered by Cadw, attracting thousands of visitors from all over the world, each year
http://www.abergavennychronicle.com/article.cfm?id=106310&headline=The%20Duke%20of%20Beaufort%20the%20Hereditary%20Keeper%20of%20Raglan%20Castle%20dies%20at%20the%20age%20of%2089§ionIs=news&searchyear=2017
"David Somerset was the second son of Captain Henry Robert Somers FitzRoy de Vere Somerset (1898—1965), by his marriage in 1922 to Bettine Violet Malcolm, a daughter of Major C. E. Malcolm. ] He was educated at Eton College. His father was the grandson of Lord Henry Somerset, second son of the 8th Duke of Beaufort and the temperance activist Lady Isabella Somers-Cocks. He and his family were descended in the male line from Edward III of England; the first Somerset was a legitimised son of Henry Beaufort, Duke of Somerset, whose grandfather was a legitimized son of John of Gaunt. By the time he succeeded as Duke he was therefore considered the senior representative of the House of Plantagenet, through a legitimised line.[
Somerset and his older brother John and younger sister Elizabeth were fifth cousins once removed of the Princess Elizabeth, soon to become heir to the throne, through their common ancestor, Garret Wesley, 1st Earl of Mornington, an Anglo-Irish peer.[ More importantly, Somerset's father was the heir presumptive to the Dukedom of Beaufort and the large estates attached to it. By the time he was about twelve, it was becoming clear that his father's third cousin Henry Somerset, 10th Duke of Beaufort, was unlikely to have a son, unless his childless wife Mary Somerset, Duchess of Beaufort, died and he remarried, and that Somerset's father and elder brother were almost the heirs apparent. ] And then the outlook changed in April 1945, when his elder brother John Alexander Somerset was killed in action in the Allied invasion of Germany. As a result, Somerset himself became the likely heir.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-duke-of-beaufort-obituary-zg3bcwdgm
// yes am do keep rights to fix and tune, train and even harsher, to any length of ranks, even generalismus, Generalissimo deserves a helpful caring criticism if they clearly stepping off from Earth norms among Earth people in where they wish to deserve a respecto
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalissimo)
//okey perhaps some proper crazy ones would not comment also for safety reasons but would put comment around ones culture
http://www.abergavennychronicle.com/article.cfm?id=106310&headline=The%20Duke%20of%20Beaufort%20the%20Hereditary%20Keeper%20of%20Raglan%20Castle%20dies%20at%20the%20age%20of%2089§ionIs=news&searchyear=2017
21 February 2018 18:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Why nobles need ground help, to set values and life's right, so they can keep values for everyone's in coming day's
"Twice divorced – one ex-wife took her own life by jumping off Bristol’s Clifton Suspension Bridge – the 9th Marquess was left humiliated when it emerged that two of his children were the subject of paternity riddles.
The Marquess himself Alexander Charles Robert Vane-Tempest-Stewart, known as Alistair, was the son of Robin Vane-Tempest-Stewart, 8th Marquess, and his wife Romaine.
Educated at Eton where he ran a jazz band called the Eton Five, Alistair inherited the title at 18 after his father died from liver failure brought on by an alcohol addiction.
In 1958 Londonderry married his first wife Nicolette Harrison, the daughter of a stockbroker, and two daughters and a son duly followed.
When the boy was 18 months old blood tests revealed that he was not Londonderry’s son but the singer Georgie Fame’s.
//with respect still.
"A year after Nicolette and Londonderry’s divorce in 1971 she married Fame.
They had another son together but in 1993 Nicolette killed herself.
In 1972 Londonderry married again, this time to the Royal Ballet’s former principal dancer Doreen Wells but that too ended in divorce after 17 years.
Later more discomfort was caused by Lady Cosima Somerset, who had been publicly accepted as the Marquess’s daughter by Nicolette.
Lady Cosima, a close friend of Princess Diana, claimed her actual father was nightclub pianist and writer Robin
Douglas-Home, a close friend of Princess Margaret who had killed himself with an overdose of pills in the Sixties.
Lord Londonderry is survived by two daughters from his first marriage and two sons by his second.
His eldest son Frederick Aubrey Vane-Tempest- Stewart, Viscount Castlereagh, now succeeds to his title as the 10th Marquess of Londonderry."
https://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/328299/9th-Marquess-of-Londonderry-Aristocrat-September-7-1937-Died-June-20-2012-Aged-74
//Should we tie, a down-carded 10 year punishment title for the ones, who live by not highest manners ? And if keeping up, then downgrade from them to the levels that they can not inherit title of drunkenness or slutery?
"Twice divorced – one ex-wife took her own life by jumping off Bristol’s Clifton Suspension Bridge – the 9th Marquess was left humiliated when it emerged that two of his children were the subject of paternity riddles.
The Marquess himself Alexander Charles Robert Vane-Tempest-Stewart, known as Alistair, was the son of Robin Vane-Tempest-Stewart, 8th Marquess, and his wife Romaine.
Educated at Eton where he ran a jazz band called the Eton Five, Alistair inherited the title at 18 after his father died from liver failure brought on by an alcohol addiction.
In 1958 Londonderry married his first wife Nicolette Harrison, the daughter of a stockbroker, and two daughters and a son duly followed.
When the boy was 18 months old blood tests revealed that he was not Londonderry’s son but the singer Georgie Fame’s.
//with respect still.
"A year after Nicolette and Londonderry’s divorce in 1971 she married Fame.
They had another son together but in 1993 Nicolette killed herself.
In 1972 Londonderry married again, this time to the Royal Ballet’s former principal dancer Doreen Wells but that too ended in divorce after 17 years.
Later more discomfort was caused by Lady Cosima Somerset, who had been publicly accepted as the Marquess’s daughter by Nicolette.
Lady Cosima, a close friend of Princess Diana, claimed her actual father was nightclub pianist and writer Robin
Douglas-Home, a close friend of Princess Margaret who had killed himself with an overdose of pills in the Sixties.
Lord Londonderry is survived by two daughters from his first marriage and two sons by his second.
His eldest son Frederick Aubrey Vane-Tempest- Stewart, Viscount Castlereagh, now succeeds to his title as the 10th Marquess of Londonderry."
https://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/328299/9th-Marquess-of-Londonderry-Aristocrat-September-7-1937-Died-June-20-2012-Aged-74
//Should we tie, a down-carded 10 year punishment title for the ones, who live by not highest manners ? And if keeping up, then downgrade from them to the levels that they can not inherit title of drunkenness or slutery?
https://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/328299/9th-Marquess-of-Londonderry-Aristocrat-September-7-1937-Died-June-20-2012-Aged-74
21 February 2018 18:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
at least not a tie
21 February 2018 18:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
21 February 2018 18:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"An aristocrat is facing a battle with the National Trust and furious locals over plans to build a cable car at one of the most beautiful spots in the south west of England.
The Marquess of Bath, who is said to have acquired as many as 75 ‘wifelets’ to share the romantic side of his eccentric life, wants to install a cable car to encourage tourists to visit picturesque Cheddar Gorge in Somerset.
The 81-year-old owns the southern portion of the gorge but the north belongs to the National Trust, which fiercely opposes the plans, claiming the £10m scheme will 'destroy' the three-mile-long site.
His plan has been hatched in response to a huge decline in visitor numbers to the site over the past four decades.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2479669/Cheddar-Gorge-cable-car-Marquess-Bath-head-head-National-Trust.htm
Hugh Cornwell, director of Cheddar Gorge and Caves for Lord Bath, said the estate needs paying tourists as it is not funded by grants - like the National Trust - and tourist numbers have dwindled from 400,000 a year in the 1970s and 80s to just 150,000.
'Visually the cable car is a downside although the visual signature is quite small,' Mr Cornwell said.
He added that the extra income from the cable car will benefit the area as the money can be ploughed into conservation, wildlife protection and maintenance.
However, he admitted some of the income would be profit for the Marquess, who in 2011 had an estimated wealth of £157million.
He continued: 'Longleat Estate share the view that Cheddar Gorge is the finest limestone Gorge in Britain, that it is a Site of Special Scientific Interest for its rare calcareous grasslands, that it is a Special Area of Conservation for bats, amongst other endangered fauna, and with six caves that are Scheduled Ancient Monuments it is definitely a prehistoric site of national importance
The Marquess of Bath, who is said to have acquired as many as 75 ‘wifelets’ to share the romantic side of his eccentric life, wants to install a cable car to encourage tourists to visit picturesque Cheddar Gorge in Somerset.
The 81-year-old owns the southern portion of the gorge but the north belongs to the National Trust, which fiercely opposes the plans, claiming the £10m scheme will 'destroy' the three-mile-long site.
His plan has been hatched in response to a huge decline in visitor numbers to the site over the past four decades.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2479669/Cheddar-Gorge-cable-car-Marquess-Bath-head-head-National-Trust.htm
Hugh Cornwell, director of Cheddar Gorge and Caves for Lord Bath, said the estate needs paying tourists as it is not funded by grants - like the National Trust - and tourist numbers have dwindled from 400,000 a year in the 1970s and 80s to just 150,000.
'Visually the cable car is a downside although the visual signature is quite small,' Mr Cornwell said.
He added that the extra income from the cable car will benefit the area as the money can be ploughed into conservation, wildlife protection and maintenance.
However, he admitted some of the income would be profit for the Marquess, who in 2011 had an estimated wealth of £157million.
He continued: 'Longleat Estate share the view that Cheddar Gorge is the finest limestone Gorge in Britain, that it is a Site of Special Scientific Interest for its rare calcareous grasslands, that it is a Special Area of Conservation for bats, amongst other endangered fauna, and with six caves that are Scheduled Ancient Monuments it is definitely a prehistoric site of national importance
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2479669/Cheddar-Gorge-cable-car-Marquess-Bath-head-head-National-Trust.htm
21 February 2018 18:04
Margus Meigo commented on David Dickson's post.
interesting
21 February 2018 18:01
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21 February 2018 17:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just makes me :(
when a gentleman are not anymore harsh(caring) enough to say woman how she should look and be,
then next thing You know, there is no woman left to demand man to be correct .. and then.. well, there is just faded fog what will be left of proper honorable riches,
with a occasional sparks of hopeful creativity to become noble.. but this will be swallowed more and more effective way with new degrading values of gene rap philosophy how and what human species should be
when a gentleman are not anymore harsh(caring) enough to say woman how she should look and be,
then next thing You know, there is no woman left to demand man to be correct .. and then.. well, there is just faded fog what will be left of proper honorable riches,
with a occasional sparks of hopeful creativity to become noble.. but this will be swallowed more and more effective way with new degrading values of gene rap philosophy how and what human species should be
21 February 2018 17:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But how did we end-up in here:
(good part of article)
"‘You see, at the end of the day, he’s a national treasure. He’s one of the few real English gentlemen left and people love him and all that he stands for.’
English gentleman? To me, he sounds more like a philandering old fool, too weak to stand up to his myriad lovers when their jealous rages spiral out of control.
But then, of course, I’ve never witnessed him swallowing an entire mackerel down in one. "
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2012744/Marquess-Baths-74-girlfriends-war-Bitchiness-catfight-chicken-casserole.html
(good part of article)
"‘You see, at the end of the day, he’s a national treasure. He’s one of the few real English gentlemen left and people love him and all that he stands for.’
English gentleman? To me, he sounds more like a philandering old fool, too weak to stand up to his myriad lovers when their jealous rages spiral out of control.
But then, of course, I’ve never witnessed him swallowing an entire mackerel down in one. "
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2012744/Marquess-Baths-74-girlfriends-war-Bitchiness-catfight-chicken-casserole.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2012744/Marquess-Baths-74-girlfriends-war-Bitchiness-catfight-chicken-casserole.html
21 February 2018 17:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//miskit hiljem // not a lead
""Mõisaküla ja Lilli piiripunkti puhul on suurim muudatus see, et neid tohivad ületada kõikide Euroopa Liidu riikide kodanikud," rääkis Malmre. Praegu on Viljandimaa piiripunktid avatud vaid kolme Balti riigi kodanikele.
Suurt välisturistide tungi Mõisakülla staabiülem siiski ei ennustanud. "Vahe on pigem selles, et kui suvel tuleb Eestisse Saksamaalt jalgrattaga matkaja, siis nüüd pääseb ta Mõisakülas üle piiri. Varem pidime ta kas Valka või Iklasse suunama."
"Malmre ennustuse järgi kaob aktiivne piirikontroll 2007. aastal, mil Eesti liitub Schengeni viisavaba tsooniga. "Siis me enam piiril inimesi ei kontrolli," ütles ta. "Kuid isikut tõendav dokument peab kodanikul ka riigi sees liikudes kaasas olema."
https://sakala.postimees.ee/2403683/moisakula-piiripunkt-jaab-alles-ka-euroopa-liidus
""Mõisaküla ja Lilli piiripunkti puhul on suurim muudatus see, et neid tohivad ületada kõikide Euroopa Liidu riikide kodanikud," rääkis Malmre. Praegu on Viljandimaa piiripunktid avatud vaid kolme Balti riigi kodanikele.
Suurt välisturistide tungi Mõisakülla staabiülem siiski ei ennustanud. "Vahe on pigem selles, et kui suvel tuleb Eestisse Saksamaalt jalgrattaga matkaja, siis nüüd pääseb ta Mõisakülas üle piiri. Varem pidime ta kas Valka või Iklasse suunama."
"Malmre ennustuse järgi kaob aktiivne piirikontroll 2007. aastal, mil Eesti liitub Schengeni viisavaba tsooniga. "Siis me enam piiril inimesi ei kontrolli," ütles ta. "Kuid isikut tõendav dokument peab kodanikul ka riigi sees liikudes kaasas olema."
https://sakala.postimees.ee/2403683/moisakula-piiripunkt-jaab-alles-ka-euroopa-liidus
https://sakala.postimees.ee/2403683/moisakula-piiripunkt-jaab-alles-ka-euroopa-liidus
21 February 2018 17:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
huvitav mismoodi järgmine jutuekraan väljanäeb
21 February 2018 16:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lucky us
21 February 2018 16:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
st sellised juhid, keda usaldada saab
googli autode ajastu fänn :D muidugi mingeid kange ikka ise soovks ka aegajalt keerata...
endale paar mopeedautot kunagi ikka muretsen kindluse mõttes, tore põristada vihmas-jahedas vaikselt, ilma, et kedagi tüütama peaks ja siis kellegile midagi väljalaenata kui sõita hädapärast vaja
(vaatsin neid just mingiaeg, üks Kuningas Haapsalus müüb neid, päris asjalikud osad (võrreldes võrriga))
googli autode ajastu fänn :D muidugi mingeid kange ikka ise soovks ka aegajalt keerata...
endale paar mopeedautot kunagi ikka muretsen kindluse mõttes, tore põristada vihmas-jahedas vaikselt, ilma, et kedagi tüütama peaks ja siis kellegile midagi väljalaenata kui sõita hädapärast vaja
(vaatsin neid just mingiaeg, üks Kuningas Haapsalus müüb neid, päris asjalikud osad (võrreldes võrriga))
21 February 2018 16:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
näitab jõudu ja osavust, julgust ja taiplikust isegi
//see muidugi, photoshoot, kuid ikkagi.
ma ise eelistan auto_juhti, muidu ei saa sõitu nautida ju samal ajal kui sõta... sellist tunnet endal pole palju, et rooli keerata, aga imetlen neid kellel see võime ja oskus, tunne ja vajadus veres on
//see muidugi, photoshoot, kuid ikkagi.
ma ise eelistan auto_juhti, muidu ei saa sõitu nautida ju samal ajal kui sõta... sellist tunnet endal pole palju, et rooli keerata, aga imetlen neid kellel see võime ja oskus, tunne ja vajadus veres on
21 February 2018 16:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei olegi, aga ossaa ikka
ma ei põlasta neid kuid kui juba on siis suht äge ikka, kui noor kutt saab mootoratta selgeks
ma ei põlasta neid kuid kui juba on siis suht äge ikka, kui noor kutt saab mootoratta selgeks
21 February 2018 16:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Püstilselt poti kõrvale muidugi oleks see ka mahtunud, kuid nii vist visuaalselt viisakam
21 February 2018 16:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lele Reinsoo Mehelogika järgi ta juba eelnevalt effektiivne, mitte ebaeffektiivne,
sest kui kapp juba on tühi siis tagantjärgi eisaa öelda, et ebaeffektiivne.
Siis on see Väga effektiivne, sest ei pea aega kulutama kaane otsimisega supi soendmaisel ning eelkõigeei lase ka potti unustada sinna peale uut toitu laadima hakates.
Muidugi ma enamasti keeran potikaane lihtsalt potiletagurpidi peale, nupp sissepoole, siis ka enamasti mahub,
Nendel aegadel kui mul on külmkapp muidugi
sest kui kapp juba on tühi siis tagantjärgi eisaa öelda, et ebaeffektiivne.
Siis on see Väga effektiivne, sest ei pea aega kulutama kaane otsimisega supi soendmaisel ning eelkõigeei lase ka potti unustada sinna peale uut toitu laadima hakates.
Muidugi ma enamasti keeran potikaane lihtsalt potiletagurpidi peale, nupp sissepoole, siis ka enamasti mahub,
Nendel aegadel kui mul on külmkapp muidugi
21 February 2018 16:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga tunnetekeelel pole ka viga
21 February 2018 16:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Toomas Sirge nu õige keel on südamekeel
21 February 2018 16:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1/16 on ikka tihe teema
Piiripunkt 166
https://www.ev100.ee/et/eesti-tunnustab-166-teenetemarki-antakse-seekord-ule-narvas
Piiripunkt 166
https://www.ev100.ee/et/eesti-tunnustab-166-teenetemarki-antakse-seekord-ule-narvas
https://www.ev100.ee/et/eesti-tunnustab-166-teenetemarki-antakse-seekord-ule-narvas
21 February 2018 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See on hea eelis, et siin listis ei ole palju inimesi kes mul kommenteerima siia tuleks, pläägutades ilvese-kersti usa hüpiknuku suunalist, eesti vastast kulunud retoorikat,
siis ei pea ennast marru ajama.
Need inimesed listi kohe panen ikka, kui nad just omad joped pole kes mul enda mõtteid vahest paremini väljendada aitavad teiste mõeldud teravnurki väljatuues, need andestame
siis ei pea ennast marru ajama.
Need inimesed listi kohe panen ikka, kui nad just omad joped pole kes mul enda mõtteid vahest paremini väljendada aitavad teiste mõeldud teravnurki väljatuues, need andestame
21 February 2018 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
Ja just siis kui Sa nii timm nägid..kaotasin ma Suga kontakti, nu mis loogika see on
21 February 2018 04:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
made my day/night
21 February 2018 03:46
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
hahahahaha
21 February 2018 03:45
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
mina näen täis normaalsust selles, kuid ma mees ka (kui kaant peale ei saa panna, siis pane ligidale, et nad ikkagi koos leitavad ja ühendatavad oleks)
21 February 2018 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
Ossa : )(
21 February 2018 03:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Äitah Lele.
21 February 2018 03:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51U1IoWoSEU ( long run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr364wVTHYY )
"Moral of the story it is the crew that matters"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0IucRz-FzM
"Moral of the story it is the crew that matters"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0IucRz-FzM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51U1IoWoSEU
21 February 2018 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
be seen
21 February 2018 02:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
way another level from
"And they ask how did you do it?
How did you come up in the game so fluid?
I planned this, planned to ninja vanish on all the haters
Now I command this, command this"
///in way's that i will not, c0mmand in ways i will n0t..c0mmand in way's i will not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDWIl3Pgy-A
"And they ask how did you do it?
How did you come up in the game so fluid?
I planned this, planned to ninja vanish on all the haters
Now I command this, command this"
///in way's that i will not, c0mmand in ways i will n0t..c0mmand in way's i will not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDWIl3Pgy-A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDWIl3Pgy-A
21 February 2018 02:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
reminds me the time i got robbed again in a place that for surprise was even emptier then their game-plan
21 February 2018 02:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"..Trying to figure out a game plan - a way to atone.."
"Former hermit turned out civil service
Smart, clever, down for whatever
Always on a mission to change for the better
I have you to thank for that and I'm grateful
Now its my turn to be the guardian angel
I will orchestrate the conditions
So some might have another chance at going the distance
And if they barter a martyr
Let 'em see just how we operate when we got the armor"
"Belongings scattered all along the floor
Did I get robbed? Better check what's gone
The drawers pulled out televisions on
Chairs tipped over and tables flipped"
"See a single sheet of paper with a emblem
Amongst the bedlam on the door to my bedroom
Looks official - notarized
I surmise this letter comes from "the good guys"
But why? I ain't done dirt in months
I gave the game away to keep these stunts
Away from me away from her away from us
Thought my past was ash and dust"
"Read it closer it seems contention
Isn't with me - not even mentioned
It seems my girls been being sneaky
Downloading new episodes of shows weekly
From channels that we don't pay for so now
The FBT came and shut her down
But prison time and jail for some shows?
Seems farfetched but that's how it goes"
"I must admit it's a bit
Impersonal to receive or transmit
The human beings behind the screens
Dehumanized by these new machines"
"What about cracking corporations
Or infiltrating uplinked nations?
Don't have to argue what's legal
But not all crimes created equal"
"Armed with the best surveillance tools
And you can't catch terrorists or kill tyrants
Just drug busts and software pirates
Seems like a waste of the greatest net
Cast over the oceans deepest depths"
"Truth is everyone has potential
To be subversive, crack and go mental
So they keep all that data central
And say its safety-essential
Some see this hypocrisy and do nothing
Slacktivists move wrists and click buttons
Get behind a cause to change the laws
But don't have all the brains or half the balls"
"Some soldiers who sit behind the walls
Of prison risked their lives for vision
Sacrificed themselves in position
To fight this inquisition"
//yeahippsters, Mudge me no0t else then for g0od
"As long as we don't back down"
"As long as we don't back down"
"As long as we don't back down"
"And I can't change the choices
I made in the past by being boisterous
And I can't change decisions ... .... .. "
//Oh, maybe now we can, more,more,mmore with old love and folk wood knowladge from the swamp we aight suck moistures even when we got all Trumps we need to rip stars off with bloody scarfs and just keep the colors of soul & who resonate to green
"Trying to figure out a game plan - a way to atone"
".."I must atone for my part in this evil
If good men do nothing that is evil enough"
Idle hands do the devil's work
And I can say with full faith and confidence that .."
"..ut there is no one on this planet that can flex it like me
I can't deny that I was born into this game to the beat
Of a different drummer - unencumbered by restrictions
No denying my addiction to the thrills of a system
That I manipulate with ease - bitch please
I'm a "
"So I guess I gotta do it for 'em - be the champion
Don't let the people put their rights on Ambien
Beat 'em at their own game - using the same
Tools they use against us to keep population tamed
Dust off the backups - unencrypt 'em get 'em back up"
" ... machine to keep me from dreams
Dedicate my life to these LED screens
This latrine of a world need a hero and quick
One who's armed with ...."
"And I won't ever let these government agents scare me again
Don't need a VPN - I'm on that namefag tip
If they want me gotta find me I'm gon' give 'em the SLIP
And like a serial line I got a problem with time
Especially doing it so try to catch me slipping right through you .."
"Done being convalescent - now I'm imbued with electrons
Easier for me to see how I have effect on
The world - when I'm back to my roots
Rootshell on the consciousness of all of my troops"
"That are setting up the frameworks initialized tools
Architecture optimized
With a modest memory footprint resized"
"With a few long nights and a couple lines
Ain't a problem that we didn't get squashed
Cause her boss held it down with his Macintosh
And now she's all grown up and gorgeous
So I had to record this
Love letter to my girl"
"A local hacker, fed up with the current state of the internet, has released a multi-platform application to create a sizable encrypted mesh network using all types of electronic devices."
"ike toasters and refrigerators are turned into peer-to-peer nodes for the network, wirelessly broadcasting and receiving data from any other connected gadgets within range"
"Government officials have commented that this type of privacy application violates federal law by subverting the current ban on unlicensed encrypted traffic"
"Snitches whistleblowing protecting the wrong side
Cutting deals with agents and saving their own hide
Short sightedness corrupting the fight in a samurai
But I gotta keep it moving keep an eye on the prize
I devised this mesh of devices to process
Every bit of traffic that is keeping us cautious
Cause the hackers creed is keeping the data free
From people who would seek to use our methods for evil"
"Empowering the people with alternative internet"
// reason you need soulmates only
"if i gave you some valuable information on an active investigation, do you think you might be able to make my charges disappear?
// >>> original story focus reflection to all of us, in any positions from Jehovah Witnesses to Farmers who like to keep their seeds:
"Agent paddington:
We can definitely help you out, depending on the significance of the information. the FBT always handsomely rewards its loyal informants. which case is this regarding?
Neals gf:
I know where you can find neals"
"Living like the archetypal Internet kingpin
Traffic on the scanners been shallow so I'm a shadow
And I gotta get my weapons ready prep 'em for battle"
"Run that mainframe administrator game plan
I'm gonna play a game of numbers like I'm rain man"
"And if I ever wind up paying the penalty
I'm proud of every one of my felonies"
"So here I am another freedom fighter behind the bars
I guess I had it coming so you all can hold your applause"
"I went and put it in the public domain
And now the next generation of hackers can all know my name
And they can build on what I created and make it their own
And maybe modify the code so that it works with a drone"
xD with drone y0!
so dat acan fly like like ..
"See a snitch is always someone who is close to your brain
So sometimes it can be better to just stay in your lane
But you know how good she was at playing all of those games"
"Recent events probably could've been prevented"
"Wasted intelligence
Probably the worst thing ever done with human development"
"So cop a trade get a hobby try and master a craft
Because the world always need experts in the scientist caste"
"..You might find yourself in my shoes for a lesser offense
Because they made it ALL illegal on a stupid pretense..."
("Recent events probably could've been prevented")
".."But authority is malleable so is convention
If you don't question what is going on this dimension.."
"And that might be the way you make your mark on the planet
Because you just might do things different and they won't understand it
"
https://genius.com/albums/Ytcracker/Introducing-neals
"Former hermit turned out civil service
Smart, clever, down for whatever
Always on a mission to change for the better
I have you to thank for that and I'm grateful
Now its my turn to be the guardian angel
I will orchestrate the conditions
So some might have another chance at going the distance
And if they barter a martyr
Let 'em see just how we operate when we got the armor"
"Belongings scattered all along the floor
Did I get robbed? Better check what's gone
The drawers pulled out televisions on
Chairs tipped over and tables flipped"
"See a single sheet of paper with a emblem
Amongst the bedlam on the door to my bedroom
Looks official - notarized
I surmise this letter comes from "the good guys"
But why? I ain't done dirt in months
I gave the game away to keep these stunts
Away from me away from her away from us
Thought my past was ash and dust"
"Read it closer it seems contention
Isn't with me - not even mentioned
It seems my girls been being sneaky
Downloading new episodes of shows weekly
From channels that we don't pay for so now
The FBT came and shut her down
But prison time and jail for some shows?
Seems farfetched but that's how it goes"
"I must admit it's a bit
Impersonal to receive or transmit
The human beings behind the screens
Dehumanized by these new machines"
"What about cracking corporations
Or infiltrating uplinked nations?
Don't have to argue what's legal
But not all crimes created equal"
"Armed with the best surveillance tools
And you can't catch terrorists or kill tyrants
Just drug busts and software pirates
Seems like a waste of the greatest net
Cast over the oceans deepest depths"
"Truth is everyone has potential
To be subversive, crack and go mental
So they keep all that data central
And say its safety-essential
Some see this hypocrisy and do nothing
Slacktivists move wrists and click buttons
Get behind a cause to change the laws
But don't have all the brains or half the balls"
"Some soldiers who sit behind the walls
Of prison risked their lives for vision
Sacrificed themselves in position
To fight this inquisition"
//yeahippsters, Mudge me no0t else then for g0od
"As long as we don't back down"
"As long as we don't back down"
"As long as we don't back down"
"And I can't change the choices
I made in the past by being boisterous
And I can't change decisions ... .... .. "
//Oh, maybe now we can, more,more,mmore with old love and folk wood knowladge from the swamp we aight suck moistures even when we got all Trumps we need to rip stars off with bloody scarfs and just keep the colors of soul & who resonate to green
"Trying to figure out a game plan - a way to atone"
".."I must atone for my part in this evil
If good men do nothing that is evil enough"
Idle hands do the devil's work
And I can say with full faith and confidence that .."
"..ut there is no one on this planet that can flex it like me
I can't deny that I was born into this game to the beat
Of a different drummer - unencumbered by restrictions
No denying my addiction to the thrills of a system
That I manipulate with ease - bitch please
I'm a "
"So I guess I gotta do it for 'em - be the champion
Don't let the people put their rights on Ambien
Beat 'em at their own game - using the same
Tools they use against us to keep population tamed
Dust off the backups - unencrypt 'em get 'em back up"
" ... machine to keep me from dreams
Dedicate my life to these LED screens
This latrine of a world need a hero and quick
One who's armed with ...."
"And I won't ever let these government agents scare me again
Don't need a VPN - I'm on that namefag tip
If they want me gotta find me I'm gon' give 'em the SLIP
And like a serial line I got a problem with time
Especially doing it so try to catch me slipping right through you .."
"Done being convalescent - now I'm imbued with electrons
Easier for me to see how I have effect on
The world - when I'm back to my roots
Rootshell on the consciousness of all of my troops"
"That are setting up the frameworks initialized tools
Architecture optimized
With a modest memory footprint resized"
"With a few long nights and a couple lines
Ain't a problem that we didn't get squashed
Cause her boss held it down with his Macintosh
And now she's all grown up and gorgeous
So I had to record this
Love letter to my girl"
"A local hacker, fed up with the current state of the internet, has released a multi-platform application to create a sizable encrypted mesh network using all types of electronic devices."
"ike toasters and refrigerators are turned into peer-to-peer nodes for the network, wirelessly broadcasting and receiving data from any other connected gadgets within range"
"Government officials have commented that this type of privacy application violates federal law by subverting the current ban on unlicensed encrypted traffic"
"Snitches whistleblowing protecting the wrong side
Cutting deals with agents and saving their own hide
Short sightedness corrupting the fight in a samurai
But I gotta keep it moving keep an eye on the prize
I devised this mesh of devices to process
Every bit of traffic that is keeping us cautious
Cause the hackers creed is keeping the data free
From people who would seek to use our methods for evil"
"Empowering the people with alternative internet"
// reason you need soulmates only
"if i gave you some valuable information on an active investigation, do you think you might be able to make my charges disappear?
// >>> original story focus reflection to all of us, in any positions from Jehovah Witnesses to Farmers who like to keep their seeds:
"Agent paddington:
We can definitely help you out, depending on the significance of the information. the FBT always handsomely rewards its loyal informants. which case is this regarding?
Neals gf:
I know where you can find neals"
"Living like the archetypal Internet kingpin
Traffic on the scanners been shallow so I'm a shadow
And I gotta get my weapons ready prep 'em for battle"
"Run that mainframe administrator game plan
I'm gonna play a game of numbers like I'm rain man"
"And if I ever wind up paying the penalty
I'm proud of every one of my felonies"
"So here I am another freedom fighter behind the bars
I guess I had it coming so you all can hold your applause"
"I went and put it in the public domain
And now the next generation of hackers can all know my name
And they can build on what I created and make it their own
And maybe modify the code so that it works with a drone"
xD with drone y0!
so dat acan fly like like ..
"See a snitch is always someone who is close to your brain
So sometimes it can be better to just stay in your lane
But you know how good she was at playing all of those games"
"Recent events probably could've been prevented"
"Wasted intelligence
Probably the worst thing ever done with human development"
"So cop a trade get a hobby try and master a craft
Because the world always need experts in the scientist caste"
"..You might find yourself in my shoes for a lesser offense
Because they made it ALL illegal on a stupid pretense..."
("Recent events probably could've been prevented")
".."But authority is malleable so is convention
If you don't question what is going on this dimension.."
"And that might be the way you make your mark on the planet
Because you just might do things different and they won't understand it
"
https://genius.com/albums/Ytcracker/Introducing-neals
https://genius.com/albums/Ytcracker/Introducing-neals
21 February 2018 02:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
"Every noise I hear converging on me trying to conclude my day
A spotlight from the heavens confirming this is a raid
And these agents of the state are trying to take me away"
"Unwrap two brand new externals
Format ext3 truecrypt journaled
Folder structures on all my servers
Cataloged all the data mergers"
"Logging packets from an unknown source
Now I'm running through this obstacle course"
"Back up my database acquisitions
I back it all up on truecrypt partitions
Type in dd in file device zero
Sda blocksize a thousand kilos"
"Quickly close on my location the information is good
Probably pass on paranoia or just call it coincidence
But this incident in particular got me feeling different
Cause its obvious pursuit is in play -
Every noise I hear converging on me trying to conclude my day"
"A clean slate, good reason for leaving
A clean slate, thats what ive been seeking
A clean slate, just a chance to start fresh
A clean slate, before I'm marked for death"
"Either way that I decide I must proceed with some caution
Because often people in my place catch a bullet"
"Reflecting on my past and then how to get through this
Wondering who could've been judas - I was careful enough"
"Feel like leisure suit larry
But the kids dont know who that is and thats scary"
"Might as well find a girl to impress well
Made this account on okcupid
Better write a profile that doesnt look stupid"
"Interests: comics computers
I help old women get across the street
I also like listening to womanly problems
And being mad considerate whenever you solve them
Im a vegetarian lest you eat meat
Because im always open to try a new thing"
"Dislikes: if youre disingenuous
On your profile about just seeking a friendship
Because im not like these other vultures
Id rather get to know you and learn your culture"
"
"Cause of all those years I spent on computer chips
Hesitate as I approach her door
I don't even have a place to take her on this date so what am I here for?"
..."Cognitive Dissonance"...
"Intuition signal a feeling
Something the universe is concealing
But I don't have a reason to feel
This anxious so just calm down Neals
Youve been out the game - living boring
And they can't bust you if you ain't scoring
Take a deep breath - take it easy"
"after evidence acquired in a sweeping online sting operation revealed his ties to a slew of violent feminist organizations. senator ronald was the most vocal opponent to last year's telecom merger that formed the Alphabet"
"..political witch hunt. documents provided by the Federal Bureau of Telecommunications detail how the newly streamlined process for law enforcement to make electronic surveillance requests has greatly boosted efficiency"
"Not my circus - not my monkeys
Not my problem - just the country's
So what if the politicians got bump keys
On all these other companies?
Citizens who obey the law
Dont get spied on - not at all
So my fear's irrational
All hail corporate national"
"Who cares what you buy when youre online shopping?
What about the porn that you're watching?
What about the girls that you're stalking
Behind your girlfriend's back - is that shocking?
Cell phone tracks the places you're walking
In all that fly ass gear that you're rocking
No one will possibly use that data
Against you sometime later"
"At least thats how I feel now, I've changed"
"Ain't no reason to fight the man"
"Ignorance is bliss indeed
And the old me'd probably intercede
But the prospect of losing all that I've gained
Taught me to shut up and stay in my lane"
"n an effort to make the government's surveillance of the internet easier, the Syndicate has amended their terms of service today to refuse routing of any type of encrypted traffic on their ubiquitous backbone, except for a handful of authorized companies who have been preapproved by the Federal Bureau of Telecommunications." ... .... ...
"..other companies who wish to apply for the exemption may do so on the FBTs website after filling out a few simple forms and paying a non-refundable processing fee .."
// i am telling You, openess is new crypto
"i shouldn't have downloaded those shows. they're really trying to throw the book at me - i mean, ten years in federal prison for true housewives of san secuestro?"
"As long as we stick with it
Keep taking our licks with it
And we remain quick-witted
Somehow we'll make it through
As long as we don't back down
When we get tossed around
We will always rebound
Somehow we'll make it through"
"Is complex but its all part of the process
My goddess the world is far from lawless
And though I should be rotting away
Bottled up from a battle I fought yesterday
Mistakes were made sure - gotta look to the end
I got a second chance to make it right again"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRI5cPWxjsc&list=PLeDiU4Hnx_W91Kky3DjL34R5E7g7535LG&index=15
A spotlight from the heavens confirming this is a raid
And these agents of the state are trying to take me away"
"Unwrap two brand new externals
Format ext3 truecrypt journaled
Folder structures on all my servers
Cataloged all the data mergers"
"Logging packets from an unknown source
Now I'm running through this obstacle course"
"Back up my database acquisitions
I back it all up on truecrypt partitions
Type in dd in file device zero
Sda blocksize a thousand kilos"
"Quickly close on my location the information is good
Probably pass on paranoia or just call it coincidence
But this incident in particular got me feeling different
Cause its obvious pursuit is in play -
Every noise I hear converging on me trying to conclude my day"
"A clean slate, good reason for leaving
A clean slate, thats what ive been seeking
A clean slate, just a chance to start fresh
A clean slate, before I'm marked for death"
"Either way that I decide I must proceed with some caution
Because often people in my place catch a bullet"
"Reflecting on my past and then how to get through this
Wondering who could've been judas - I was careful enough"
"Feel like leisure suit larry
But the kids dont know who that is and thats scary"
"Might as well find a girl to impress well
Made this account on okcupid
Better write a profile that doesnt look stupid"
"Interests: comics computers
I help old women get across the street
I also like listening to womanly problems
And being mad considerate whenever you solve them
Im a vegetarian lest you eat meat
Because im always open to try a new thing"
"Dislikes: if youre disingenuous
On your profile about just seeking a friendship
Because im not like these other vultures
Id rather get to know you and learn your culture"
"
"Cause of all those years I spent on computer chips
Hesitate as I approach her door
I don't even have a place to take her on this date so what am I here for?"
..."Cognitive Dissonance"...
"Intuition signal a feeling
Something the universe is concealing
But I don't have a reason to feel
This anxious so just calm down Neals
Youve been out the game - living boring
And they can't bust you if you ain't scoring
Take a deep breath - take it easy"
"after evidence acquired in a sweeping online sting operation revealed his ties to a slew of violent feminist organizations. senator ronald was the most vocal opponent to last year's telecom merger that formed the Alphabet"
"..political witch hunt. documents provided by the Federal Bureau of Telecommunications detail how the newly streamlined process for law enforcement to make electronic surveillance requests has greatly boosted efficiency"
"Not my circus - not my monkeys
Not my problem - just the country's
So what if the politicians got bump keys
On all these other companies?
Citizens who obey the law
Dont get spied on - not at all
So my fear's irrational
All hail corporate national"
"Who cares what you buy when youre online shopping?
What about the porn that you're watching?
What about the girls that you're stalking
Behind your girlfriend's back - is that shocking?
Cell phone tracks the places you're walking
In all that fly ass gear that you're rocking
No one will possibly use that data
Against you sometime later"
"At least thats how I feel now, I've changed"
"Ain't no reason to fight the man"
"Ignorance is bliss indeed
And the old me'd probably intercede
But the prospect of losing all that I've gained
Taught me to shut up and stay in my lane"
"n an effort to make the government's surveillance of the internet easier, the Syndicate has amended their terms of service today to refuse routing of any type of encrypted traffic on their ubiquitous backbone, except for a handful of authorized companies who have been preapproved by the Federal Bureau of Telecommunications." ... .... ...
"..other companies who wish to apply for the exemption may do so on the FBTs website after filling out a few simple forms and paying a non-refundable processing fee .."
// i am telling You, openess is new crypto
"i shouldn't have downloaded those shows. they're really trying to throw the book at me - i mean, ten years in federal prison for true housewives of san secuestro?"
"As long as we stick with it
Keep taking our licks with it
And we remain quick-witted
Somehow we'll make it through
As long as we don't back down
When we get tossed around
We will always rebound
Somehow we'll make it through"
"Is complex but its all part of the process
My goddess the world is far from lawless
And though I should be rotting away
Bottled up from a battle I fought yesterday
Mistakes were made sure - gotta look to the end
I got a second chance to make it right again"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRI5cPWxjsc&list=PLeDiU4Hnx_W91Kky3DjL34R5E7g7535LG&index=15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRI5cPWxjsc&list=PLeDiU4Hnx_W91Kky3DjL34R5E7g7535LG&index=15
21 February 2018 01:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
(Full Playlist of Album)
Massive data bytes story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv453LAZgWc&list=PLeDiU4Hnx_W91Kky3DjL34R5E7g7535LG
Massive data bytes story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv453LAZgWc&list=PLeDiU4Hnx_W91Kky3DjL34R5E7g7535LG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv453LAZgWc&list=PLeDiU4Hnx_W91Kky3DjL34R5E7g7535LG
21 February 2018 01:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://getsongbpm.com/artist/siiri-sisask/GRJ97
https://getsongbpm.com/song/ueles-treppidest/RoL4r0
https://getsongbpm.com/song/ueles-treppidest/RoL4r0
https://getsongbpm.com/artist/siiri-sisask/GRJ97
21 February 2018 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lele Reinsoo ei nu mul seda loota pole,
pigem ma eeldan, et tullakse 5 aasta pärast uute üllatustega 10x sete üllatustega:D
kuid väljavõttel, mingi märgis, tähis võiks ikka olla,...mis kus..aegus..miks
nu seaeg kust see pull hakkas (siis kui otsustasin enam mitte pidu panna, juua, suhetes viisakamaks, usupoolele, jumalaaitamisele keskenduda jms...aastast 2012..nod ikka vapralt olid molemad veel alles, kuigi vähenenud...eip tea, vb ma kuskil kuutõbisena käisin tööl ja ise ei teagi, palk läks neile:D)
pigem ma eeldan, et tullakse 5 aasta pärast uute üllatustega 10x sete üllatustega:D
kuid väljavõttel, mingi märgis, tähis võiks ikka olla,...mis kus..aegus..miks
nu seaeg kust see pull hakkas (siis kui otsustasin enam mitte pidu panna, juua, suhetes viisakamaks, usupoolele, jumalaaitamisele keskenduda jms...aastast 2012..nod ikka vapralt olid molemad veel alles, kuigi vähenenud...eip tea, vb ma kuskil kuutõbisena käisin tööl ja ise ei teagi, palk läks neile:D)
21 February 2018 00:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
MP3's
http://www.siirisisask.com/mp3/Siiri_Sisask-Kuu_lohn.mp3
http://www.siirisisask.com/mp3/Siiri_Sisask-Negzuun_utai_oronge.mp3
http://www.siirisisask.com/mp3/Siiri_Sisask-Ole_mu_palve.mp3
http://www.siirisisask.com/mp3/Siiri_Sisask-Tanutaht.mp3
Improd:
http://www.siirisisask.com/mp3/Siiri_Sisask-improvisatsioon1.mp3
http://www.siirisisask.com/mp3/Siiri_Sisask-improvisatsioon2.mp3
Viimaste tasemetes ma veel pole kuid keha tegi küll soojaks, eks kunagi see järgmine aste mida avastada, enam ei kattu arusaamatusteeelarvamuste piiravasse vaesusesse, niinaljalt
http://www.siirisisask.com/mp3/Siiri_Sisask-Kuu_lohn.mp3
http://www.siirisisask.com/mp3/Siiri_Sisask-Negzuun_utai_oronge.mp3
http://www.siirisisask.com/mp3/Siiri_Sisask-Ole_mu_palve.mp3
http://www.siirisisask.com/mp3/Siiri_Sisask-Tanutaht.mp3
Improd:
http://www.siirisisask.com/mp3/Siiri_Sisask-improvisatsioon1.mp3
http://www.siirisisask.com/mp3/Siiri_Sisask-improvisatsioon2.mp3
Viimaste tasemetes ma veel pole kuid keha tegi küll soojaks, eks kunagi see järgmine aste mida avastada, enam ei kattu arusaamatusteeelarvamuste piiravasse vaesusesse, niinaljalt
http://www.siirisisask.com/mp3/Siiri_Sisask-Kuu_lohn.mp3
21 February 2018 00:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
uuurh see para suuremaks läinud, et ei tohi vigasi liialt ää parandada..
21 February 2018 00:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
enamasti ikka sedasi olnud ,et paned arve kinni, helistad üle.. sulged.. 50+ pealt... ja siis avastad, et nad selle ise uuesti aktiviseerinud peale Elisale müümist ja juba pea 5x sama palju nõuavad..
või, et võtad paar telot kingiks, jõuad neid kaheaastase lepingus just aasta ja 10 poolkuud maksta ja siis paaarikuulise sekelduse tõttu saad nõude TÄIS summale kogu telefonide algsele letihinnale ja lisanõude kulude küsimise osas.
//mida avastanud, et kui "õiguslikult vihastada" ja mitte pättidele maksta, jonnides, siis see asju odavamaks ei tee.,..
või et jhtub ühe kuu jooksul, ülikriitilisel jal kolm korda järjet arvutiviga täituritel kus tagasiantud summa uuesti ja uuesti võtavad kontolt enne kui panka jõuad...
õnneks mõneski sekeldusest paberitõestus jäänud
kuid jah... seekord ..nu nii sobib ka, pole küll pesimist kuid eri rõõme ka veel selles osas tundma ei hakka veel
või, et võtad paar telot kingiks, jõuad neid kaheaastase lepingus just aasta ja 10 poolkuud maksta ja siis paaarikuulise sekelduse tõttu saad nõude TÄIS summale kogu telefonide algsele letihinnale ja lisanõude kulude küsimise osas.
//mida avastanud, et kui "õiguslikult vihastada" ja mitte pättidele maksta, jonnides, siis see asju odavamaks ei tee.,..
või et jhtub ühe kuu jooksul, ülikriitilisel jal kolm korda järjet arvutiviga täituritel kus tagasiantud summa uuesti ja uuesti võtavad kontolt enne kui panka jõuad...
õnneks mõneski sekeldusest paberitõestus jäänud
kuid jah... seekord ..nu nii sobib ka, pole küll pesimist kuid eri rõõme ka veel selles osas tundma ei hakka veel
21 February 2018 00:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vot see on igast veidrusi proovid salvestada ja loota, et märkad ja siis ku märkad.. siis ikka avastad, et salvstust ei olnud..
20 February 2018 23:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//kusjuures, imelik ,et ...just selle sama posti.. sonade osas tegin siia,, koppisin.. ja siis SELLE posti põhjal kus ütles, eestikeele rääkia numbrist.. ma googledasin ing keele osa.. ja sian selle (huvitav osa on see, et keset seda tegevust... see postitus siit kadus, vastus st, ja selle EKL lehe seest, kust ianult seda võtta sain..ka seda lõiku enam polnud näha.. nu mis moodi, igatahes,m ing keelnegi osa)
"Teenagers vs. Adults
There are known differences between the vocabulary level of a teenager and an adult. An average teenager knows approximately 3,000 words. However, when we look deeper into the gap between the 3,000 that teenagers know and the 30,000 that adults know, we find that we English speakers don’t really learn much as we grow into adults.
When researchers classified the words teenagers and adults understand, they found that most of the additional words missing from the vocabulary of the teenagers are simply modified versions of the same words that the teenagers know. For example, the teenager knows the word “scissors” whereas the adult knows the different types of scissors like “kitchen scissors”, “surgical scissors”, and scissors used to trim nose hairs. Another example is that the teenager knows the word “dog” and a few types of them, but the adult knows the names of many more different types of dogs.
Based on these findings, we can be tempted to say that we learn the majority of our words in middle school.
This process of taking simple concepts and expanding them into complex concepts is similar to the way the cells in our bodies multiply. Furthermore, it can be compared to how our cultures grow and expand. Alike how human civilizations constantly evolve and advance while certain older civilizations and traditions disappear, many words have a similar fate.
In many human languages, we can find archaic words that have been fossilized in books and other words that are endangered and facing extinction.
https://www.twinword.com/blog/how-many-words-does-the-average-person-know/
"Teenagers vs. Adults
There are known differences between the vocabulary level of a teenager and an adult. An average teenager knows approximately 3,000 words. However, when we look deeper into the gap between the 3,000 that teenagers know and the 30,000 that adults know, we find that we English speakers don’t really learn much as we grow into adults.
When researchers classified the words teenagers and adults understand, they found that most of the additional words missing from the vocabulary of the teenagers are simply modified versions of the same words that the teenagers know. For example, the teenager knows the word “scissors” whereas the adult knows the different types of scissors like “kitchen scissors”, “surgical scissors”, and scissors used to trim nose hairs. Another example is that the teenager knows the word “dog” and a few types of them, but the adult knows the names of many more different types of dogs.
Based on these findings, we can be tempted to say that we learn the majority of our words in middle school.
This process of taking simple concepts and expanding them into complex concepts is similar to the way the cells in our bodies multiply. Furthermore, it can be compared to how our cultures grow and expand. Alike how human civilizations constantly evolve and advance while certain older civilizations and traditions disappear, many words have a similar fate.
In many human languages, we can find archaic words that have been fossilized in books and other words that are endangered and facing extinction.
https://www.twinword.com/blog/how-many-words-does-the-average-person-know/
https://www.twinword.com/blog/how-many-words-does-the-average-person-know/
20 February 2018 23:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kid kes kogu sellle järgnevat haldavad, on minusilmis ka alati heas mõttes jumalaused ja Jumala enda otsene käetööriist.
Muidugi arvutina lihtsalt keelt teades, on vähe, see pole me maa keele oskus.
Mõtlen ikka täis oskust, kus on kõik see kuid eelkõige siis sisu ja hinge andev komplekt arusaame ja tundeid ning Headust,
mis annab kogu kompotile selle maigu ja tulemuse mida saabki meie maalasena defineerida, kujutleda, unistada, imetleda, austada, hinnata hindamatuks ja eelkõige armastada
Muidugi arvutina lihtsalt keelt teades, on vähe, see pole me maa keele oskus.
Mõtlen ikka täis oskust, kus on kõik see kuid eelkõige siis sisu ja hinge andev komplekt arusaame ja tundeid ning Headust,
mis annab kogu kompotile selle maigu ja tulemuse mida saabki meie maalasena defineerida, kujutleda, unistada, imetleda, austada, hinnata hindamatuks ja eelkõige armastada
20 February 2018 23:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vahest osatakse keelt & viisakust peaaegu omaarust, osavad sõnades, ülikoolitasemel, aga näe eesmärk on puudu:
"Kõneviis ehk moodus on pöördsõna morfoloogiline kategooria, mis väljendab kõneleja hinnangut tegevuse reaalsusele, kõneleja ning kuulaja osa teate edastamisel (teatelaadi) ja suhtluseesmärki."
"Kõneviis ehk moodus on pöördsõna morfoloogiline kategooria, mis väljendab kõneleja hinnangut tegevuse reaalsusele, kõneleja ning kuulaja osa teate edastamisel (teatelaadi) ja suhtluseesmärki."
20 February 2018 23:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Käskida ju vist saabki ainult olevikus, ... muidu muutub käsk lootuseks, unistuseks, sooviks, fantaasiaks, (jms ebareaalset), nii on
"Pöördsõna finiitsetes vormides väljenduval ajakategoorial on kõneviisist olenevalt erinev arv liikmeid. Kindlas kõneviisis on neli aega: olevik ehk preesens, lihtminevik ehk imperfekt, täisminevik ehk perfekt ja enneminevik ehk pluskvamperfekt. Tingivas, kaudses ja möönvas kõneviisis on kaks aega: olevik ja üldminevik ehk preteeritum. Käskivas kõneviisis on ainult üks aeg – olevik."
"Pöördsõna finiitsetes vormides väljenduval ajakategoorial on kõneviisist olenevalt erinev arv liikmeid. Kindlas kõneviisis on neli aega: olevik ehk preesens, lihtminevik ehk imperfekt, täisminevik ehk perfekt ja enneminevik ehk pluskvamperfekt. Tingivas, kaudses ja möönvas kõneviisis on kaks aega: olevik ja üldminevik ehk preteeritum. Käskivas kõneviisis on ainult üks aeg – olevik."
20 February 2018 23:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eks mei lajaõpe üldse.. seda veel näha, kas keele tundmine saab olla ka elementaarne oskus, et ajas navigeerida eri "5D" haldjate maailmadest edas inavideerides.. ehk aju ei liigutagi neis kohtades edasitagasi ennast kui keeleõppes olevad saladused olematud ..siis ka lühidalt öeldes, puudvad ühendused, et segaduseta arusaada liikumissuudadest kohtades kus pole suundasi meie maailma füüsilises mõistes:
"Keerukamate ajasuhete selgitamiseks on otstarbekas võtta appi lisaks sündmushetkele (st tegevuse toimumise ajale) ja kõnehetkele veel vaatlushetke mõiste. Vaatlushetk on aeg, millest lähtudes tegevust vaadeldakse. Lauses Eile käisin ma linnas väljendab verbivorm käisin lisaks sellele, et linnaskäik toimus enne lausungi ütlemist, ka seda, et linnaskäigust räägitakse kui möödunud sündmusest, millel pole kõnehetkega otsest seost. Seevastu lauses Olen siin linnas ennegi käinud väljendab verbivorm olen käinud lisaks sellele, et käimine on toimunud enne kõnehetke, veel seda, et käimist vaadeldakse kõnehetke seisukohalt, möödunust kokkuvõtet tehes."
"Ruumiliste suhete väljendamisel sõltub sise- ja väliskohakäänete valik vormi aluseks oleva sõna leksikaalsest tähendusest, st sellest, kas sõna tähistab ruumi või pinda. Mõni sõna võib olla kaheti mõtestatav ja seetõttu võib temast kasutada ka mõlema sarja kohakäändeid, vrd nt Laevas oli palju reisijaid. − Laeval oli palju reisijaid. "
"Keerukamate ajasuhete selgitamiseks on otstarbekas võtta appi lisaks sündmushetkele (st tegevuse toimumise ajale) ja kõnehetkele veel vaatlushetke mõiste. Vaatlushetk on aeg, millest lähtudes tegevust vaadeldakse. Lauses Eile käisin ma linnas väljendab verbivorm käisin lisaks sellele, et linnaskäik toimus enne lausungi ütlemist, ka seda, et linnaskäigust räägitakse kui möödunud sündmusest, millel pole kõnehetkega otsest seost. Seevastu lauses Olen siin linnas ennegi käinud väljendab verbivorm olen käinud lisaks sellele, et käimine on toimunud enne kõnehetke, veel seda, et käimist vaadeldakse kõnehetke seisukohalt, möödunust kokkuvõtet tehes."
"Ruumiliste suhete väljendamisel sõltub sise- ja väliskohakäänete valik vormi aluseks oleva sõna leksikaalsest tähendusest, st sellest, kas sõna tähistab ruumi või pinda. Mõni sõna võib olla kaheti mõtestatav ja seetõttu võib temast kasutada ka mõlema sarja kohakäändeid, vrd nt Laevas oli palju reisijaid. − Laeval oli palju reisijaid. "
20 February 2018 23:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sda esimest võimsaimat morfolooogia leksikoni kunagi lapates.. ikka päris selgeks sai, et siin on tegu mingi samasuure vahega, kui plaastri meditsiin vs molekulaar meditsiin. :
"Morfoloogiliseks kategooriaks nimetatakse morfoloogiliste tunnuste kujul vormistuvate üksteist välistavate tähenduste klassi. Nt pöördekategooria on (kindlatel süntaktilistel tingimustel) verbis morfoloogiliselt väljenduv tegija suhe kõneleja või kuulajaga. Pöördekategooria tunnusteks on n, d, b, me (~ m), te, vad (~ d). Kõik need tunnused väljendavad tegija suhet kõneleja või kuulaja isikuga, kusjuures igaüks neist väljendab selle suhte erinevat liiki: n väljendab seda, et tegija on samane kõnelejaga (ela/n), d väljendab seda, et tegija on samane kuulajaga (ela/d) jne. Pöördetunnused välistavad üksteist, sest ühes sõnavormis saab olla ainult üks pöördetunnus.
Üksteist välistavaid tähendusi, mis ühe kategooria siseselt väljenduvad erinevate tunnuste abil, nimetatakse selle kategooria liikmeteks. Näiteks ainsuse 1. pööre, mida väljendab tunnus n, on üks pöördekategooria liige."
https://www.eki.ee/books/ekk09/index.php?p=3&p1=4
"Morfoloogiliseks kategooriaks nimetatakse morfoloogiliste tunnuste kujul vormistuvate üksteist välistavate tähenduste klassi. Nt pöördekategooria on (kindlatel süntaktilistel tingimustel) verbis morfoloogiliselt väljenduv tegija suhe kõneleja või kuulajaga. Pöördekategooria tunnusteks on n, d, b, me (~ m), te, vad (~ d). Kõik need tunnused väljendavad tegija suhet kõneleja või kuulaja isikuga, kusjuures igaüks neist väljendab selle suhte erinevat liiki: n väljendab seda, et tegija on samane kõnelejaga (ela/n), d väljendab seda, et tegija on samane kuulajaga (ela/d) jne. Pöördetunnused välistavad üksteist, sest ühes sõnavormis saab olla ainult üks pöördetunnus.
Üksteist välistavaid tähendusi, mis ühe kategooria siseselt väljenduvad erinevate tunnuste abil, nimetatakse selle kategooria liikmeteks. Näiteks ainsuse 1. pööre, mida väljendab tunnus n, on üks pöördekategooria liige."
https://www.eki.ee/books/ekk09/index.php?p=3&p1=4
https://www.eki.ee/books/ekk09/index.php?p=3&p1=4
20 February 2018 23:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vot siit juba läheb päris kosmoseks, milles navigeerimise ka kunagi oleks tore omandada, robotid selle korra selgeks saavad, siis päris ideaalne, IDEAALNE.. nu mõelda vaid siis mis juhtuma võib hakata, loodetavasti ta siis otse Kareva't pritsima hakkab või... maailmaõiglustunnetuse tõepärasust ühsikonnakorralduses arvestades ka vahekultuuride ajutisi kõver-, puhver-, ja segunenud reaalsuste kõige tundelisemat vajalikreaalsuse suunalise evolutsiooniga mida suunata nii keeleliselt-psüholoogiliselt kui füüsiliselt, lühi ja pikaajaliselt (haridusspektrum)
20 February 2018 23:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sõna, täpsemalt: leksikaalne sõna ehk lekseem, on sama tüve alusel moodustatud sõnavormide kogum
"Sõnavormid võivad aja jooksul muutuda abisõnadeks, st grammatilisteks üksusteks. Sellist protsessi nimetatakse grammatiseerumiseks. Nimisõnade grammatiseerumisega on kujunenud näiteks enamik eesti keele kaassõnu: kaassõnad (tooli) peale, peal, pealt on nimisõna pea grammatiseerunud vormid, kaassõnad (päikese) kätte, käes, käest nimisõna käsi grammatiseerunud vormid jne.
Grammatiseerumise vastandprotsess on leksikaliseerumine. See on nähtus, kus sõnavorm või sõnaosa omandab leksikaalse tähenduse (mõistesisu), seega muutub lekseemiks. Nimisõna kohakäändevormid võivad muutuda määrsõnadeks, nt kortsus, maast. Sama võib juhtuda ka omadussõnadega, nt hirmus ‘väga’ (suur), ning verbi käändeliste vormidega, nt elades ‘kunagi’. Leksikaliseeruda võivad ka sõnaühendid. Sõnaühend omandab uue mõistesisu, kinnistudes mingis kitsamas või ülekantud tähenduses, nt lendav taldrik ‘ufo’, must kast ‘lennu või sõidu üksikasju salvestav automaatseade’, must hobune ‘vähe tuntud, kuid edukas võistleja’, üle kivide ja kändude ‘vaevaliselt’. Lekseeme ja leksikaliseerunud sõnaühendeid ühtekokku nimetatakse leksikaalseteks üksusteks.
"Sõnavormid võivad aja jooksul muutuda abisõnadeks, st grammatilisteks üksusteks. Sellist protsessi nimetatakse grammatiseerumiseks. Nimisõnade grammatiseerumisega on kujunenud näiteks enamik eesti keele kaassõnu: kaassõnad (tooli) peale, peal, pealt on nimisõna pea grammatiseerunud vormid, kaassõnad (päikese) kätte, käes, käest nimisõna käsi grammatiseerunud vormid jne.
Grammatiseerumise vastandprotsess on leksikaliseerumine. See on nähtus, kus sõnavorm või sõnaosa omandab leksikaalse tähenduse (mõistesisu), seega muutub lekseemiks. Nimisõna kohakäändevormid võivad muutuda määrsõnadeks, nt kortsus, maast. Sama võib juhtuda ka omadussõnadega, nt hirmus ‘väga’ (suur), ning verbi käändeliste vormidega, nt elades ‘kunagi’. Leksikaliseeruda võivad ka sõnaühendid. Sõnaühend omandab uue mõistesisu, kinnistudes mingis kitsamas või ülekantud tähenduses, nt lendav taldrik ‘ufo’, must kast ‘lennu või sõidu üksikasju salvestav automaatseade’, must hobune ‘vähe tuntud, kuid edukas võistleja’, üle kivide ja kändude ‘vaevaliselt’. Lekseeme ja leksikaliseerunud sõnaühendeid ühtekokku nimetatakse leksikaalseteks üksusteks.
20 February 2018 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Maailmatundmine:
" Emakeelne kõneleja valdab kümneid tuhandeid sõnu. Sõna korrektne kasutus kõnes ja kirjas, tema aktiivne tekitamine ja passiivne mõistmine eeldavad, et inimene peab tema kohta teadma järgmist:
1) sõna hääldus,
2) sõna õigekiri,
3) sõna muutmine, et moodustada kõiki tarvilikke vorme (selleks tuleb teada sõnaliiki ja muuttüüpi),
4) sõna süntaktiline käitumine, sh rektsioon,
5) sõna koosesinemine teatud kindlate muude sõnadega, kollokatsioonid, sh fraseologismid,
6) sõna põhitähendused,
7) sõna tähendusvarjundid ja konnotatsioonid (tundmuslikud lisatähendused), k.a stiilivärving ja sobivus eri funktsionaalstiilidesse,
8) sõna semantilised suhted muude sõnadega, nagu sünonüümid, antonüümid (need andmed paigutavad sõna tähendusvälja(de)sse),
9) sõna suhe tähistatava välismaailma objektiga ning muude tollega seotud objektidega.
Sõnavara on koht, kus saavad kokku foneetika ja fonoloogia (1), ortograafia (2), morfoloogia (3), süntaks (4, 5), semantika ja pragmaatika (5–8) ning maailmatundmine (9).
https://www.eki.ee/books/ekk09/index.php?p=6&p1=2
" Emakeelne kõneleja valdab kümneid tuhandeid sõnu. Sõna korrektne kasutus kõnes ja kirjas, tema aktiivne tekitamine ja passiivne mõistmine eeldavad, et inimene peab tema kohta teadma järgmist:
1) sõna hääldus,
2) sõna õigekiri,
3) sõna muutmine, et moodustada kõiki tarvilikke vorme (selleks tuleb teada sõnaliiki ja muuttüüpi),
4) sõna süntaktiline käitumine, sh rektsioon,
5) sõna koosesinemine teatud kindlate muude sõnadega, kollokatsioonid, sh fraseologismid,
6) sõna põhitähendused,
7) sõna tähendusvarjundid ja konnotatsioonid (tundmuslikud lisatähendused), k.a stiilivärving ja sobivus eri funktsionaalstiilidesse,
8) sõna semantilised suhted muude sõnadega, nagu sünonüümid, antonüümid (need andmed paigutavad sõna tähendusvälja(de)sse),
9) sõna suhe tähistatava välismaailma objektiga ning muude tollega seotud objektidega.
Sõnavara on koht, kus saavad kokku foneetika ja fonoloogia (1), ortograafia (2), morfoloogia (3), süntaks (4, 5), semantika ja pragmaatika (5–8) ning maailmatundmine (9).
https://www.eki.ee/books/ekk09/index.php?p=6&p1=2
https://www.eki.ee/books/ekk09/index.php?p=6&p1=2
20 February 2018 22:50
Margus Meigo commented on Edijs Abols's photo.
canwe imagine if anyone would be looking so good in woods :p
Latvian woods ?
Latvian woods ?
20 February 2018 18:40
Margus Meigo commented on Edijs Abols's photo.
nearly perfect just the hat - good but can be better in that setting (makes look to young, something that will not fly away with stronger wind is more like what will go there, to add to the look that is aimed for )
20 February 2018 18:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(truth is we all know how that in the end part will smell.., mass production as well, for a working class slaves..to keep them tied to.. )
20 February 2018 18:35
Margus Meigo commented on Edijs Abols's photo.
Picture is great but cigarette is always cheap,
well, pipe and a proper cannabis joint, now that's what a thoughtful deep minds should be advertising,
fort own crew at least, if contract does not allow us to be who we are
well, pipe and a proper cannabis joint, now that's what a thoughtful deep minds should be advertising,
fort own crew at least, if contract does not allow us to be who we are
20 February 2018 18:35
Margus Meigo commented on Edijs Abols's photo.
You look alright!
20 February 2018 18:26
Margus Meigo replied to Eduard Williams's comment.
would be sensible
at least few things that can produce clear proven extraordinarily positive results that can be transformed at least in to money
money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/index.html
at least few things that can produce clear proven extraordinarily positive results that can be transformed at least in to money
money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/index.html
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/index.html
20 February 2018 18:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tänud Bianca : )
20 February 2018 15:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
pride for someone running 3 seconds faster in weather conditions or bad breakfast
as that would matter something in global workings on these things that we need to work on
as that would matter something in global workings on these things that we need to work on
20 February 2018 11:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi ma arvan, et valimine peaks litsensialusel käima ja litsents võiks olla kui mitte kohustuslik siis moraalselt väga soovitatud, rohkem kui autojuhiluba
ja kui mitte tasuline, et väärtustada.. siis vähemasti testi alusel mis kui mitte ei tõesta siis harib ja treeninb selle läbimisel arusaama elementaarseid reaalsusi,
isegi kui ned otse valmisplatformidega ei ole seoses ,
kuid vaja arusaada, et kas inimene saab aru mille sees, mille vahel ja kussuunas ta mida valida saab ja mida vanaema soovitaks
ja kui mitte tasuline, et väärtustada.. siis vähemasti testi alusel mis kui mitte ei tõesta siis harib ja treeninb selle läbimisel arusaama elementaarseid reaalsusi,
isegi kui ned otse valmisplatformidega ei ole seoses ,
kuid vaja arusaada, et kas inimene saab aru mille sees, mille vahel ja kussuunas ta mida valida saab ja mida vanaema soovitaks
20 February 2018 11:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ohyeah, pride!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyldN-S9WvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyldN-S9WvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyldN-S9WvQ
20 February 2018 11:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"here is some sport, look that & shut up,
this is you allowed controlled, timed usage of emotions, hope and (well.. what else?)
this is you allowed controlled, timed usage of emotions, hope and (well.. what else?)
20 February 2018 11:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
[Verse 1]
Liquid crystals beaming brands
Against a skyline scraped by buildings and
A strand of sand moistened by the gentle hand
Of the waves that slowly cleanse the land
Of sins forgotten
Some say this place is rotten
But it's the only home that I've ever known
Basked in washed-out neon tones
Structures of stone shall mask the unknown
[Verse 2]
Graphite colored streets gridded neatly
Edged by walls of grease and graffiti
Plots of land of where the palm trees sway
Next to the alleyways in decay
Reflected screens in serene puddles
Disturbed by trucks, exiting tunnels
Splashing pedestrians of the evening
My city stays living and breathing (breathing)
[Verse 3]
San Secuestro: where the dregs and best go
To seek fortunes in escrow
Most rob, cheat and steal for their nest, though
The rest process the echo (echo)
I process the system, the network
Propagating data for hire - a true expert
Corporate interests keep the lights on
Coding up the dirt in Python (Python)
[Talking]
Well its another balmy evening in San Secuestro, 78°
With another light drizzle expected tomorrow morning
In business news the five major telecom carriers have successfully petitioned for their merger
Electing to go under the name "The Syndicate"
The CEO of the newly-formed entity, Nice Guiman, has personally ensured his company's pledge to unregulated and unrestricted Internet
Even though his company now has an effective monopoly
Controlling over 85% of wired and wireless communications in the country
One can only hope the hard-fought battle for this merger
Which required extensive lobbying by multiple telecommunication and special interest groups
Will not adversely affect the average consumer in pricing and usage
Here's Brandon with sports
[Verse 4]
Beneath this silicon paradise
Is an underground that we founded on rights
Cryptographic ciphertexts
And undernets in this wild-wild west
Keeping the faucet of information
Unobstructed by most complications
Swapping source code data methods
Keeping our trade extra-protected
[Verse 5]
While this city sleeps we defend
Every bit of these bits that we send
Behind benign hosting we run blind
Anonymous VPNs and cold lines
Hit paths and tumbled reassembled
Shot back through our data temples
Catastrophe is not coming, its here
San Secuestro: the point of the spear
Welcome to San Secuestro
Liquid crystals beaming brands
Against a skyline scraped by buildings and
A strand of sand moistened by the gentle hand
Of the waves that slowly cleanse the land
Of sins forgotten
Some say this place is rotten
But it's the only home that I've ever known
Basked in washed-out neon tones
Structures of stone shall mask the unknown
[Verse 2]
Graphite colored streets gridded neatly
Edged by walls of grease and graffiti
Plots of land of where the palm trees sway
Next to the alleyways in decay
Reflected screens in serene puddles
Disturbed by trucks, exiting tunnels
Splashing pedestrians of the evening
My city stays living and breathing (breathing)
[Verse 3]
San Secuestro: where the dregs and best go
To seek fortunes in escrow
Most rob, cheat and steal for their nest, though
The rest process the echo (echo)
I process the system, the network
Propagating data for hire - a true expert
Corporate interests keep the lights on
Coding up the dirt in Python (Python)
[Talking]
Well its another balmy evening in San Secuestro, 78°
With another light drizzle expected tomorrow morning
In business news the five major telecom carriers have successfully petitioned for their merger
Electing to go under the name "The Syndicate"
The CEO of the newly-formed entity, Nice Guiman, has personally ensured his company's pledge to unregulated and unrestricted Internet
Even though his company now has an effective monopoly
Controlling over 85% of wired and wireless communications in the country
One can only hope the hard-fought battle for this merger
Which required extensive lobbying by multiple telecommunication and special interest groups
Will not adversely affect the average consumer in pricing and usage
Here's Brandon with sports
[Verse 4]
Beneath this silicon paradise
Is an underground that we founded on rights
Cryptographic ciphertexts
And undernets in this wild-wild west
Keeping the faucet of information
Unobstructed by most complications
Swapping source code data methods
Keeping our trade extra-protected
[Verse 5]
While this city sleeps we defend
Every bit of these bits that we send
Behind benign hosting we run blind
Anonymous VPNs and cold lines
Hit paths and tumbled reassembled
Shot back through our data temples
Catastrophe is not coming, its here
San Secuestro: the point of the spear
Welcome to San Secuestro
20 February 2018 11:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Verse 1]
My eyes, slowly rise from a shut state
Clearly an open and shut case
Imprisoned, by the syndicate
Microchips implanted in my wrist I get
Branded mugshot scan it along with a handprint
And the biometric tracking is mended where my story begins
Just another prisoner who is making amends
The cell doors open
Everyone exits their cells in a uniform motion
But none of us move until the guard has spoken
Cause a broken jaw ain't a pleasant notion
And our cold titanium stalls become walls (door shutting)
Gravity shackles engage
Between my thin wrists and I shift my legs
[Verse 2]
Shuffle past the med ward
Where the med board is hard at work with their record
Sedate the inmates and make peace
So strayed seeds and crazies one day cease
To miscalibrate the state's needs
By doing just whatever they pleased
You gotta follow every law to the letter
Or find yourself in prison sitting with men who refuse doing better
[Interlude]
"A new privacy application is making waves in the news again
After another wave of arrests have brought down at least 35
People in six states related to online privacy and neutrality"
[Verse 2]
I'm fresh to my con-clique -
A conclave of convicts who wronged this
System devoid of all conflict upon which
Speaking out gets you jailed with a promptness
Speech is a crime defined by the law now
Incorrect speech incarcerate long now
Used to be the way to the convey your freedom
Now it's just a way to display your demons
[Verse 3]
Fuck police
Beat fellow citizens up on the streets
The ones they swore to protect from elites
But now fight their battles with batons and beat
Anyone who doesn't conform to the "norm"
Established by the branches of a government born
From a document draft that ensured our survival
But instead it destroyed all our rights to rival
[Verse 4]
Because the corrupt found a way to stop it
No one pure of soul finds their way into politics
So all this voting is represented
By representatives who were bad to begin with
Then the promise of money became true
Every vulture took a piece of the loot
Now all the people at the bottom they got nothing to do
Except watch as their world slowly fades to blue
...But it wasn't always like this
My eyes, slowly rise from a shut state
Clearly an open and shut case
Imprisoned, by the syndicate
Microchips implanted in my wrist I get
Branded mugshot scan it along with a handprint
And the biometric tracking is mended where my story begins
Just another prisoner who is making amends
The cell doors open
Everyone exits their cells in a uniform motion
But none of us move until the guard has spoken
Cause a broken jaw ain't a pleasant notion
And our cold titanium stalls become walls (door shutting)
Gravity shackles engage
Between my thin wrists and I shift my legs
[Verse 2]
Shuffle past the med ward
Where the med board is hard at work with their record
Sedate the inmates and make peace
So strayed seeds and crazies one day cease
To miscalibrate the state's needs
By doing just whatever they pleased
You gotta follow every law to the letter
Or find yourself in prison sitting with men who refuse doing better
[Interlude]
"A new privacy application is making waves in the news again
After another wave of arrests have brought down at least 35
People in six states related to online privacy and neutrality"
[Verse 2]
I'm fresh to my con-clique -
A conclave of convicts who wronged this
System devoid of all conflict upon which
Speaking out gets you jailed with a promptness
Speech is a crime defined by the law now
Incorrect speech incarcerate long now
Used to be the way to the convey your freedom
Now it's just a way to display your demons
[Verse 3]
Fuck police
Beat fellow citizens up on the streets
The ones they swore to protect from elites
But now fight their battles with batons and beat
Anyone who doesn't conform to the "norm"
Established by the branches of a government born
From a document draft that ensured our survival
But instead it destroyed all our rights to rival
[Verse 4]
Because the corrupt found a way to stop it
No one pure of soul finds their way into politics
So all this voting is represented
By representatives who were bad to begin with
Then the promise of money became true
Every vulture took a piece of the loot
Now all the people at the bottom they got nothing to do
Except watch as their world slowly fades to blue
...But it wasn't always like this
20 February 2018 11:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
jee Tiia, tnx,
üle mitmekuu väike loomingu minut tuli sõrme
üle mitmekuu väike loomingu minut tuli sõrme
20 February 2018 10:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
viiskausepärast muidugi mingi aeg edasi tuuakse järgmisse hetke kui uuesit ajas..sse ..
return to the time
return to the time
20 February 2018 10:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ahh mis seisatada, ajast välja astuda
20 February 2018 10:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
okey ainuke asi millest vääl täielikult arueisaa on "ei kuule ja ei näe"
osa,
mõtlesin, et armastus selgeks teeb
kuid nu mitte, et tõestatavat tõestust selles osas oleks aga..
uskuda nii tasub vastukaaluks muule muude ilmade poolt kulunud /.../ umm..kultuurilugu, "ühiskonnaloo arusaama" / "antropoloogilise armuteaduse vanarahvuslik elutõetarkus" peaaegu et, dituleeritud, see kuulus arm teevat pimedaks
(eks siin muidugi, väljastpoolt armutult vaadates armunuid võib tõsti mulje jääda, kas ei märgata, ja vahest vb tõesti isegi trammi ei märgata. ja see seisab, kuni nad märkamata hetkeajas suudlema jäid rööbastelgi üleuskumatu aja uuesti suurest nagu maailmliitmise tundest / nu ja nii edasi, ühesõnaga siis kõrvalt saab jääda mulje jah... jah... aga saab ka olla
rahulikult, võetav samasuurem ja suureminigi arusaadav, olulisust tajuv armastus, eriti just, sest tähtis ju kõik ..et saaks kivikarpide ohtlikuse vahelt turvaliselt imtiimsusesse, et siis aega seisatada)
osa,
mõtlesin, et armastus selgeks teeb
kuid nu mitte, et tõestatavat tõestust selles osas oleks aga..
uskuda nii tasub vastukaaluks muule muude ilmade poolt kulunud /.../ umm..kultuurilugu, "ühiskonnaloo arusaama" / "antropoloogilise armuteaduse vanarahvuslik elutõetarkus" peaaegu et, dituleeritud, see kuulus arm teevat pimedaks
(eks siin muidugi, väljastpoolt armutult vaadates armunuid võib tõsti mulje jääda, kas ei märgata, ja vahest vb tõesti isegi trammi ei märgata. ja see seisab, kuni nad märkamata hetkeajas suudlema jäid rööbastelgi üleuskumatu aja uuesti suurest nagu maailmliitmise tundest / nu ja nii edasi, ühesõnaga siis kõrvalt saab jääda mulje jah... jah... aga saab ka olla
rahulikult, võetav samasuurem ja suureminigi arusaadav, olulisust tajuv armastus, eriti just, sest tähtis ju kõik ..et saaks kivikarpide ohtlikuse vahelt turvaliselt imtiimsusesse, et siis aega seisatada)
20 February 2018 10:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(kuidugi täitsa luatud ja osalt vaja, koos orig. allesjätmisegagi, paljud sõnad uuendad,a vhaetada, ümbergikirjutada, kuid kindlasti paremaid sõnu lihtsate sõnade , hädapäraste sõnade asmele mida vahest lihtsalt vaheletikitud õige sõna asemel, ligilähedaselt ligilähedane ja väheima kuiva kruusatee poriloiguaugust läbisõitmise efektina, .. kus näiteks augusisu saepuruga ja smblamättagigagi pealt kaetud, aeglustades erit ivahe vahel, kiiruga ei saa arugi, mis vedrud päästetud said, ...sedasi enamus headusega ka mis pehmendab paljusi edasitormamisi, hoides rattad all... kuid kui millest aeglaselt sõita...siis oleks tunda... ja samamoodi.. ka keelesõnade vahel oelvate sonadega.... kus muidugi, briliant selge õige tuleb siis kui ei olegi midagi... aga kuni sinnamaani, augu asemel hea kui turvas (pehme augutäide))
20 February 2018 09:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siinkohal muidugi elementaarne, et see armastus inimkonna suunas artistidel nagunii ka elementaarne, kuid lihtsalt lisana, siis kui endla armastust pole,
siis hea, et rahvas ja inimesed (liigina'gi) keda armastada ja need iniemste hulgas, kes armastuse esile tõstavad ja kahtlematut rahulhingelist meelerenneldust tekitavad turvatunde ohke ja julgustava inspiratsioonina, oma usu suurendamisse, eksimatusse, selle liigi ja selle liigi sees olevate eripärasussse kuid eelkõige, erilisuse osa piisavasse erilisusesse, et üldise nimetajaalla vähem kui kõrgeimat mis siin teada, ei sobiks üldse ilma ilmselge eksimuseta väljendadagi, pole sobilik lihtsalt osasi asju, teagi pole sobilik osasi asju Borati stiiliga ju oma kultuuri ei külva üle kus arutada saab suure hulga poolt seda mis väiksele erilistele andeks antakse, nagu "kas inimesed on eluvääriliseimad, arusaamaks ülejäänud elukeskel olles enda suurusest ja väiksusest mis võimeline alanduma ilma igasuguse mureta lepatriinu ees ja soovima südames aidata sõprust luua kui võimalik, personariseerida kahesipelgavahelist kemplust..sest mine tea.. ehk pole nagu labori arvutused ütlevad, vaid nad tõsimeeli, said valesti üksteisest aru ja neilgi, poliit-ideoloogiline-kultuuriline arusaam ja midagi sellist (sipelgatest endiselt jutt, kelle kahelist kemplust vb näiteks pealt juhtud nägema ja südamevalu normaalne ka siis tunda, kui neid aidata ei oska)
siis hea, et rahvas ja inimesed (liigina'gi) keda armastada ja need iniemste hulgas, kes armastuse esile tõstavad ja kahtlematut rahulhingelist meelerenneldust tekitavad turvatunde ohke ja julgustava inspiratsioonina, oma usu suurendamisse, eksimatusse, selle liigi ja selle liigi sees olevate eripärasussse kuid eelkõige, erilisuse osa piisavasse erilisusesse, et üldise nimetajaalla vähem kui kõrgeimat mis siin teada, ei sobiks üldse ilma ilmselge eksimuseta väljendadagi, pole sobilik lihtsalt osasi asju, teagi pole sobilik osasi asju Borati stiiliga ju oma kultuuri ei külva üle kus arutada saab suure hulga poolt seda mis väiksele erilistele andeks antakse, nagu "kas inimesed on eluvääriliseimad, arusaamaks ülejäänud elukeskel olles enda suurusest ja väiksusest mis võimeline alanduma ilma igasuguse mureta lepatriinu ees ja soovima südames aidata sõprust luua kui võimalik, personariseerida kahesipelgavahelist kemplust..sest mine tea.. ehk pole nagu labori arvutused ütlevad, vaid nad tõsimeeli, said valesti üksteisest aru ja neilgi, poliit-ideoloogiline-kultuuriline arusaam ja midagi sellist (sipelgatest endiselt jutt, kelle kahelist kemplust vb näiteks pealt juhtud nägema ja südamevalu normaalne ka siis tunda, kui neid aidata ei oska)
20 February 2018 09:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siiri_Sisask
Siiri tegi lauljadebüüdi ETV muusikasaates "Kaks takti ette", esitades Raimond Valgre loomingut. Ta on laulnud paljude teiste heliloojate loodut. Tänaseks on ta keskendunud põhiliselt oma loomingu esitamisele.
Siiri on kirjutanud ka teatri- ja show-muusikat.
1998 tantsu- ja muusikasõu "Being and Nothingness". Koostöös Peeter Vähi ja tantsutrupiga Fine 5. Tekst: Siiri Sisask, muusika: Peeter Vähi, Siiri Sisask.
2001 lavastus "Neli kuningat" – Laulik (muusika: Siiri Sisask, tekst: Kati Murutar)
Albumid[muuda lähteteksti]
1993 "Hold Me, Wind/We'll Meet Another Time" Madam Siree
1998 "Mis maa see on" koos Ultima Thulega, Fugata Records
2002 "Jälg" Zupping
2003 "Laulud hingest..." koos Revalia Kammermeeskooriga, Global Music Group
2003 "Ürg ja jõud"
2003 "We've Been A While"
2005 "Kuu lõhn" Siiri Sisask, OÜ Su Music
2006 "Teine jälg" Finetone Music
2009 "11" Finetone Music
2010 "Lingua mea" Jazz'n'Arts
2012 "Hommikupuu"
2016 "Kuristi kohal"
DVD
2005 "Ole mu palve" koos Revalia Kammermeeskooriga, Eesti Raadio Ööülikool
Filmid
Sisask on teinud rolle kuues mängufilmis ja kahes telesarjas. Temast ja ta loomingust on tehtud videofilm ja dokumentaalfilm, suvel 2007 proovis ta kätt ka saatejuhina.
1982 "Arabella mereröövli tütar" – Arabella hääl / Tallinnfilm
1984 "Karoliine Hõbelõng" – kammerneitsi / Tallinnfilm
1985 Tallinnfilm "Naerata ometi" – lastekodutüdruk Siiri / Tallinnfilm
1987 Tallinnfilm "Saja aasta pärast mais" – Vilhelmiine Klementi / Tallinnfilm
1988 Eesti Telefilm "Õnnelind flamingo" – tüdruk / Eesti Telefilm
1994 "Mullikesed" – Siiri / Eesti TV draamasari
1996 "Veri" – abikaasa / Eesti TV draamasari
2003 "Laulud hingest" – Siiri Sisask ja Revalia kammermeeskoor / Eesti TV muusikavideofilm
2004 Mark Soosaar "Siiri – hääl maa ja taeva vahel" – portreefilm Siiri Sisaskist
2007–2008 "Taarka" – Taarka /Exitfilm,
2007–2008 "Retked Eestis" – saatejuht / Soome YLE 2 telesari
Muusikalised šõuprogrammid[muuda lähteteksti]
1988 kabaree Revaalia hotellis Tallinn Toompuiesteel – solist
1990 Tallinn baar-varietee, Harju tn 6 – solist
1992 varietee Gloria – solist
1999 kabaree-klubi Park – solist
2002 kabaree Bel-Etage – solist
Muusikalid ja muusikalavastused
1989 "Jeanne D'Arc ja jumal vikerkaarel" – Jeanne D'Arc
1995 "Marlene" – Marlene Dietrich
1998 "Mahtra sõda" – Juliette Marchande
1999 "Irma La Douce" – Irma
2000 "Sugar" – Sugar
2001 "No-No Nanette" – Lucille Early
2001 "Neli kuningat" – Laulik (muusika: S. Sisask, tekst: K. Murutar)
2001 "Cabaret" – Sally Bowles
2002 "Evita" – Evita Peron
Siiri tegi lauljadebüüdi ETV muusikasaates "Kaks takti ette", esitades Raimond Valgre loomingut. Ta on laulnud paljude teiste heliloojate loodut. Tänaseks on ta keskendunud põhiliselt oma loomingu esitamisele.
Siiri on kirjutanud ka teatri- ja show-muusikat.
1998 tantsu- ja muusikasõu "Being and Nothingness". Koostöös Peeter Vähi ja tantsutrupiga Fine 5. Tekst: Siiri Sisask, muusika: Peeter Vähi, Siiri Sisask.
2001 lavastus "Neli kuningat" – Laulik (muusika: Siiri Sisask, tekst: Kati Murutar)
Albumid[muuda lähteteksti]
1993 "Hold Me, Wind/We'll Meet Another Time" Madam Siree
1998 "Mis maa see on" koos Ultima Thulega, Fugata Records
2002 "Jälg" Zupping
2003 "Laulud hingest..." koos Revalia Kammermeeskooriga, Global Music Group
2003 "Ürg ja jõud"
2003 "We've Been A While"
2005 "Kuu lõhn" Siiri Sisask, OÜ Su Music
2006 "Teine jälg" Finetone Music
2009 "11" Finetone Music
2010 "Lingua mea" Jazz'n'Arts
2012 "Hommikupuu"
2016 "Kuristi kohal"
DVD
2005 "Ole mu palve" koos Revalia Kammermeeskooriga, Eesti Raadio Ööülikool
Filmid
Sisask on teinud rolle kuues mängufilmis ja kahes telesarjas. Temast ja ta loomingust on tehtud videofilm ja dokumentaalfilm, suvel 2007 proovis ta kätt ka saatejuhina.
1982 "Arabella mereröövli tütar" – Arabella hääl / Tallinnfilm
1984 "Karoliine Hõbelõng" – kammerneitsi / Tallinnfilm
1985 Tallinnfilm "Naerata ometi" – lastekodutüdruk Siiri / Tallinnfilm
1987 Tallinnfilm "Saja aasta pärast mais" – Vilhelmiine Klementi / Tallinnfilm
1988 Eesti Telefilm "Õnnelind flamingo" – tüdruk / Eesti Telefilm
1994 "Mullikesed" – Siiri / Eesti TV draamasari
1996 "Veri" – abikaasa / Eesti TV draamasari
2003 "Laulud hingest" – Siiri Sisask ja Revalia kammermeeskoor / Eesti TV muusikavideofilm
2004 Mark Soosaar "Siiri – hääl maa ja taeva vahel" – portreefilm Siiri Sisaskist
2007–2008 "Taarka" – Taarka /Exitfilm,
2007–2008 "Retked Eestis" – saatejuht / Soome YLE 2 telesari
Muusikalised šõuprogrammid[muuda lähteteksti]
1988 kabaree Revaalia hotellis Tallinn Toompuiesteel – solist
1990 Tallinn baar-varietee, Harju tn 6 – solist
1992 varietee Gloria – solist
1999 kabaree-klubi Park – solist
2002 kabaree Bel-Etage – solist
Muusikalid ja muusikalavastused
1989 "Jeanne D'Arc ja jumal vikerkaarel" – Jeanne D'Arc
1995 "Marlene" – Marlene Dietrich
1998 "Mahtra sõda" – Juliette Marchande
1999 "Irma La Douce" – Irma
2000 "Sugar" – Sugar
2001 "No-No Nanette" – Lucille Early
2001 "Neli kuningat" – Laulik (muusika: S. Sisask, tekst: K. Murutar)
2001 "Cabaret" – Sally Bowles
2002 "Evita" – Evita Peron
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siiri_Sisask
20 February 2018 09:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lugemissalvestisi:
Jeanne d’Arc (Volkonski ja Mägi Jeanne d’Arc ja jumal vikerkaarel, 1989 Tallinna Linnahallis)
Marlene Dietrich (Murutari Marlene, 1995 Vanemuises)
Juliette Marchand (Vilde, Laanemetsa, Puuderselli Mahtra sõda, ka muusika autor; 1998 Mahtras)
Irma (Monnot’ Irma, 1999 Endlas)
Sugar (Styne’i Sugar, 2000 Estonias)
Lucille Early (Youmansi No, no, Nanette, 2001 Smithbridge Productions)
Laulik (Murutari Neli kuningat; ka muusika autor, 2001 suvelavastus Paides)
Sally Bowles (Kanderi Cabaret, 2001 Teater Bel-Étage)
Evita Peron (Lloyd Webberi Evita, 2002 Vanemuises)
Helikandjaid
Hold Me, Wind/We'll Meet Another Time (CD, 1993)
1st acoustic graffity (CD, 1996)
Mis maa see on (CD, 1998, koos Ultima Thulega)
Jälg (CD, 2002)
Laulud hingest ... (CD, 2003, koos Revalia Kammermeeskooriga)
Ürg ja jõud (CD, 2003)
We've Been A While (CD, 2003)
Kuu lõhn (CD, 2005)
Ole mu palve (DVD, 2005)
Teine jälg (CD, 2006)
11 (CD, 2009)
Lingua mea (CD, 2010)
Hommikupuu (CD, 2012)
Kuristi kohal (CD, 2016)
Kirjandus
M. Aleksius. Seda teab ainult laulu looja. – Noorus 1986, 10
I. Garšnek. Sõnum vikerkaarelt [Jumal vikerkaarel]. – Reede, 27. aprill 1990
"Muidugi olen ma armunud!" – Kirke 1991, 1
P. Hõbemägi. Siiri Sisask usub iseendasse. – Eesti Ekspress, 9. oktoober 1992
Siiri Sisask: Eva tegi väga valesti, et ta õuna võttis... Intervjueerinud V. Leivak. – Õhtuleht, 16. juuli 1993
Siiri Sisask: "Ma olen Madonnast parem". Intervjueerinud K. Klein. – Päevaleht, 19. oktoober 1993
A. Laulik. Siiri Sisask - lagi Eestis on saavutatud ja ületatudki. – Esmaspäev, 13. detsember 1993
Kui kompuuter näitab: error! Intervjueerinud V. Leivak. – Õhtuleht, 4. mai 1995
Siiri Sisask: "Publikule mitte valetada - see ongi minu stiil". Intervjueerinud G. Velthut. – Eesti Sõnumid, 5. juuli 1995
V. Leivak. Siiri Sisask naasis Leedust lillede ja ümbrikuga [II koht laulukonkursil Nidas 27.-29. juulil]. – Õhtuleht, 11. august 1995
R. Hanson. Siiri Sisask on tunnetes maksimalist. – Postimees, 23. september 1995
M. S. Kaasik. Sisaski soolo: muusikaline maskiball Vanemuise ja Marlene Dietrichiga. – Liivimaa Kuller, 21. märts 1996
I. Drikkit. Mis värvi on Siiri Sisaski silmad? [kontserdimuljed]. – Postimees : Extra, 16. märts 1996
S. Sisask... jt. Est - Dietrich test. Intervjueerinud S. Karja. – Eesti Ekspress : Magneet, 22. märts 1996
Siiri Sisask. Intervjueerinud I. Drikkit. – Postimees : Extra, 30. märts 1996
Siiri Sisask: mõõn on möödas. Intervjueerinud V. Leivak. – Õhtuleht, 16. detsember 1996
Siiri Sisask: Ei mingit õelutsemist ega patjanutmist, suur armastus on käes. Intervjueerinud H. Tarvel. – Liivimaa Kuller, 19 detsember 1996
A. Laansalu. No risk, no rock. Ja klassika pärast pole tarvis muretseda [arvustus: S. Sisask (laul), B. B. Bagger (kitarr)]. – Postimees, 6. veebruar 1997
Baggeri – Sisaski akustiline projekt. – Kultuurimaa, 12. veebruar 1997
M. Müil. Siiri Sisask - julm, kuid alati aus. – Televisioonileht : Nädal, 1997, 7
B. Bagger, S. Sisask. Siiri Sisask ja Boris Björn Bagger taevakanalil Pro 7 ["Uued hääled Euroopas"]. Intervjueerinud T. Kaugema. – Postimees, 21. märts 1997
J. Hämarsoo. Siiri Sisask neljas hääl Euroopas. – Kroonika, 1997, 18/68 (7. mai)
S. Normet. Siiri Sisaski ja Boris Björn Baggeri ABS-projekt Keilas. – Kultuurimaa, 16. juuli 1997
Siiri Sisask kuulab südame häält. Intervjueerinud V. Leivak. – Õhtuleht, 28. august 1997
G. Kaupmees. Siiri Sisask - barokist rockini. – Õhtuleht, 10. november 1997
M. Mank. First Lady of Rock Eestist. – Kultuurimaa, 12. november 1997
E. Luuk. Künnab vagusid plaadile [arvustus: heliplaat "1st acoustic graffiti"]. – Postimees, 25. november 1997
E. Odres. Siiri Sisask laulab, kirjutab ja õmbleb. – Kroonika, 1997, 46/96 (26. november)
I. Garšnek. Siiri Sisaski positsioonid [arvustus: heliplaat "1st acoustic graffiti"]. – Sirp, 28. november1997
S. Haljand. Siiri Sisask: "Kui ma ei saaks adrenaliini välja laulda, läheksin lõhki!". – Kuller, 1. detsember 1997
I. Garšnek. „Jazzkaar 1999”, kümnes laine. – Teater. Muusika. Kino,1999, 7
Siiri Sisask - indiaanlane, kesteeb kõike nagu süda ütleb. Intervjueerinud T. Talvist. – Oma Saar [Meie Maa laupäevalisa], 15. jaanuar 2000
3-aastaselt muusik [väljavõtteid intervjuust ajalehele Meie Maa]. Intervjueerinud T. Talvist. – Muusikaleht 2000, 2
E. Vool. Üksildase hundi salasoov. – Eesti Naine 2000, 7
Ü. Plink. Siiri Sisask maa ja taeva vahel. – Anna, 6, 2002
Kuldmedal mongoolia meeslaulmises. Intervjueerinud A. Remme. – Muusika 2003, 7/8
E. Kivimaa. Läbi tugevuse nõrkuse poole. – Eesti Naine 2003, 11
S. M. [S. Meinert]. Siiri Sisaski hingelised laulud. – Nädal, 13.-19. september 2004, 37
A. Remme. Elu pärast riigikogu. – Anne 2007, 9
K. Toomemets, M. Suviste. Siiri Sisask: "Plaat, mida ma väga hea meelega kuulan, on vaikus" [heliplaadist "Hommikupuu"]. – Õhtuleht, 18. veebruar 2012
Siiri Sisask: laulan nagu lapsenagi - otse ja sirgelt [heliplaadi "Hommikupuu" esitlusel Rock Cafes]. Intervjueerinud M. Niineste. – Eesti Päevaleht, 22. veebruar 2012
M. Pakats. Siiri Sisask: mind häirib rahva hingeharimatus. – Naised, 2012, 8 (23. veebruar)
J. Sang. Teisest puust Siiri [heliplaadi "Hommikupuu" arvustus]. – Postimees : AK: arvamus, kultuur, 25. veebruar 2012
M. Haav. Hommikupuu : Siiri Sisask [heliplaadi arvustus]. – Muusika, 2012, 4
I. Garšnek. Siiri Sisask "Hommikupuu" [arvustus]. – Aplaus : muusikaajakiri igale maitsele, 2012, 4 (suvi)
O. Kantokorpi. Siiri Sisask "Hommikupuu" [heliplaadi arvustus].. – Elo : Tuglas-seuran jäsenlehti, 2012, 5
S. Udikas. Story of Whraktalia. Tunnetusüksus ja Siiri Sisask [heliplaadi lühiarvustus]. – Muusika 2013, 5
M. Makarova. Siiras Siiri Sisask. – Üks : terviseajakiri tervetele, 2013, 2 (aprill/mai)
D. Reinolt. Siiri Sisask: on hulk asju, mida võiksin endale ette heita. – Naised, 2013, 8 (21. veebruar)
J. Hämarsoo. Evita jälgedes! – Kroonika + Nädal, 2013, 12 (22. märts)
Siiri Sisask: "Sain emalt kasvatuse olla otsekohene ja aus". Intervjueerinud I. Talumets. – Naisteleht, 2014, 5 (31. jaanuar)
Siiri Sisask Viron Musiikin valopilkku. Intervjueerinud H. Rinne. – Elo : Tuglas-seuran jäsenlehti, 2014, 3
T. Lang. Kõik algab unistusest. – Mari : väärtustades iseennast, 2014, 8
Väsimatu teisitimõtleja. Intervjueerinud R. Jussila. – Kroonika + Nädal, 2014, 50 (12. detsember)
M. Treimann. Siiri Sisask: "Ma ei tee midagi mõttega, et vaadake nüüd mind!". – Naisteleht + Naised, 2016, 20 (18. mai)
Olukord, kus Eesti ensüklopeedia on märgatav väärtuslisa Wikipeediale
http://entsyklopeedia.ee/artikkel/sisask_siiri3
Jeanne d’Arc (Volkonski ja Mägi Jeanne d’Arc ja jumal vikerkaarel, 1989 Tallinna Linnahallis)
Marlene Dietrich (Murutari Marlene, 1995 Vanemuises)
Juliette Marchand (Vilde, Laanemetsa, Puuderselli Mahtra sõda, ka muusika autor; 1998 Mahtras)
Irma (Monnot’ Irma, 1999 Endlas)
Sugar (Styne’i Sugar, 2000 Estonias)
Lucille Early (Youmansi No, no, Nanette, 2001 Smithbridge Productions)
Laulik (Murutari Neli kuningat; ka muusika autor, 2001 suvelavastus Paides)
Sally Bowles (Kanderi Cabaret, 2001 Teater Bel-Étage)
Evita Peron (Lloyd Webberi Evita, 2002 Vanemuises)
Helikandjaid
Hold Me, Wind/We'll Meet Another Time (CD, 1993)
1st acoustic graffity (CD, 1996)
Mis maa see on (CD, 1998, koos Ultima Thulega)
Jälg (CD, 2002)
Laulud hingest ... (CD, 2003, koos Revalia Kammermeeskooriga)
Ürg ja jõud (CD, 2003)
We've Been A While (CD, 2003)
Kuu lõhn (CD, 2005)
Ole mu palve (DVD, 2005)
Teine jälg (CD, 2006)
11 (CD, 2009)
Lingua mea (CD, 2010)
Hommikupuu (CD, 2012)
Kuristi kohal (CD, 2016)
Kirjandus
M. Aleksius. Seda teab ainult laulu looja. – Noorus 1986, 10
I. Garšnek. Sõnum vikerkaarelt [Jumal vikerkaarel]. – Reede, 27. aprill 1990
"Muidugi olen ma armunud!" – Kirke 1991, 1
P. Hõbemägi. Siiri Sisask usub iseendasse. – Eesti Ekspress, 9. oktoober 1992
Siiri Sisask: Eva tegi väga valesti, et ta õuna võttis... Intervjueerinud V. Leivak. – Õhtuleht, 16. juuli 1993
Siiri Sisask: "Ma olen Madonnast parem". Intervjueerinud K. Klein. – Päevaleht, 19. oktoober 1993
A. Laulik. Siiri Sisask - lagi Eestis on saavutatud ja ületatudki. – Esmaspäev, 13. detsember 1993
Kui kompuuter näitab: error! Intervjueerinud V. Leivak. – Õhtuleht, 4. mai 1995
Siiri Sisask: "Publikule mitte valetada - see ongi minu stiil". Intervjueerinud G. Velthut. – Eesti Sõnumid, 5. juuli 1995
V. Leivak. Siiri Sisask naasis Leedust lillede ja ümbrikuga [II koht laulukonkursil Nidas 27.-29. juulil]. – Õhtuleht, 11. august 1995
R. Hanson. Siiri Sisask on tunnetes maksimalist. – Postimees, 23. september 1995
M. S. Kaasik. Sisaski soolo: muusikaline maskiball Vanemuise ja Marlene Dietrichiga. – Liivimaa Kuller, 21. märts 1996
I. Drikkit. Mis värvi on Siiri Sisaski silmad? [kontserdimuljed]. – Postimees : Extra, 16. märts 1996
S. Sisask... jt. Est - Dietrich test. Intervjueerinud S. Karja. – Eesti Ekspress : Magneet, 22. märts 1996
Siiri Sisask. Intervjueerinud I. Drikkit. – Postimees : Extra, 30. märts 1996
Siiri Sisask: mõõn on möödas. Intervjueerinud V. Leivak. – Õhtuleht, 16. detsember 1996
Siiri Sisask: Ei mingit õelutsemist ega patjanutmist, suur armastus on käes. Intervjueerinud H. Tarvel. – Liivimaa Kuller, 19 detsember 1996
A. Laansalu. No risk, no rock. Ja klassika pärast pole tarvis muretseda [arvustus: S. Sisask (laul), B. B. Bagger (kitarr)]. – Postimees, 6. veebruar 1997
Baggeri – Sisaski akustiline projekt. – Kultuurimaa, 12. veebruar 1997
M. Müil. Siiri Sisask - julm, kuid alati aus. – Televisioonileht : Nädal, 1997, 7
B. Bagger, S. Sisask. Siiri Sisask ja Boris Björn Bagger taevakanalil Pro 7 ["Uued hääled Euroopas"]. Intervjueerinud T. Kaugema. – Postimees, 21. märts 1997
J. Hämarsoo. Siiri Sisask neljas hääl Euroopas. – Kroonika, 1997, 18/68 (7. mai)
S. Normet. Siiri Sisaski ja Boris Björn Baggeri ABS-projekt Keilas. – Kultuurimaa, 16. juuli 1997
Siiri Sisask kuulab südame häält. Intervjueerinud V. Leivak. – Õhtuleht, 28. august 1997
G. Kaupmees. Siiri Sisask - barokist rockini. – Õhtuleht, 10. november 1997
M. Mank. First Lady of Rock Eestist. – Kultuurimaa, 12. november 1997
E. Luuk. Künnab vagusid plaadile [arvustus: heliplaat "1st acoustic graffiti"]. – Postimees, 25. november 1997
E. Odres. Siiri Sisask laulab, kirjutab ja õmbleb. – Kroonika, 1997, 46/96 (26. november)
I. Garšnek. Siiri Sisaski positsioonid [arvustus: heliplaat "1st acoustic graffiti"]. – Sirp, 28. november1997
S. Haljand. Siiri Sisask: "Kui ma ei saaks adrenaliini välja laulda, läheksin lõhki!". – Kuller, 1. detsember 1997
I. Garšnek. „Jazzkaar 1999”, kümnes laine. – Teater. Muusika. Kino,1999, 7
Siiri Sisask - indiaanlane, kesteeb kõike nagu süda ütleb. Intervjueerinud T. Talvist. – Oma Saar [Meie Maa laupäevalisa], 15. jaanuar 2000
3-aastaselt muusik [väljavõtteid intervjuust ajalehele Meie Maa]. Intervjueerinud T. Talvist. – Muusikaleht 2000, 2
E. Vool. Üksildase hundi salasoov. – Eesti Naine 2000, 7
Ü. Plink. Siiri Sisask maa ja taeva vahel. – Anna, 6, 2002
Kuldmedal mongoolia meeslaulmises. Intervjueerinud A. Remme. – Muusika 2003, 7/8
E. Kivimaa. Läbi tugevuse nõrkuse poole. – Eesti Naine 2003, 11
S. M. [S. Meinert]. Siiri Sisaski hingelised laulud. – Nädal, 13.-19. september 2004, 37
A. Remme. Elu pärast riigikogu. – Anne 2007, 9
K. Toomemets, M. Suviste. Siiri Sisask: "Plaat, mida ma väga hea meelega kuulan, on vaikus" [heliplaadist "Hommikupuu"]. – Õhtuleht, 18. veebruar 2012
Siiri Sisask: laulan nagu lapsenagi - otse ja sirgelt [heliplaadi "Hommikupuu" esitlusel Rock Cafes]. Intervjueerinud M. Niineste. – Eesti Päevaleht, 22. veebruar 2012
M. Pakats. Siiri Sisask: mind häirib rahva hingeharimatus. – Naised, 2012, 8 (23. veebruar)
J. Sang. Teisest puust Siiri [heliplaadi "Hommikupuu" arvustus]. – Postimees : AK: arvamus, kultuur, 25. veebruar 2012
M. Haav. Hommikupuu : Siiri Sisask [heliplaadi arvustus]. – Muusika, 2012, 4
I. Garšnek. Siiri Sisask "Hommikupuu" [arvustus]. – Aplaus : muusikaajakiri igale maitsele, 2012, 4 (suvi)
O. Kantokorpi. Siiri Sisask "Hommikupuu" [heliplaadi arvustus].. – Elo : Tuglas-seuran jäsenlehti, 2012, 5
S. Udikas. Story of Whraktalia. Tunnetusüksus ja Siiri Sisask [heliplaadi lühiarvustus]. – Muusika 2013, 5
M. Makarova. Siiras Siiri Sisask. – Üks : terviseajakiri tervetele, 2013, 2 (aprill/mai)
D. Reinolt. Siiri Sisask: on hulk asju, mida võiksin endale ette heita. – Naised, 2013, 8 (21. veebruar)
J. Hämarsoo. Evita jälgedes! – Kroonika + Nädal, 2013, 12 (22. märts)
Siiri Sisask: "Sain emalt kasvatuse olla otsekohene ja aus". Intervjueerinud I. Talumets. – Naisteleht, 2014, 5 (31. jaanuar)
Siiri Sisask Viron Musiikin valopilkku. Intervjueerinud H. Rinne. – Elo : Tuglas-seuran jäsenlehti, 2014, 3
T. Lang. Kõik algab unistusest. – Mari : väärtustades iseennast, 2014, 8
Väsimatu teisitimõtleja. Intervjueerinud R. Jussila. – Kroonika + Nädal, 2014, 50 (12. detsember)
M. Treimann. Siiri Sisask: "Ma ei tee midagi mõttega, et vaadake nüüd mind!". – Naisteleht + Naised, 2016, 20 (18. mai)
Olukord, kus Eesti ensüklopeedia on märgatav väärtuslisa Wikipeediale
http://entsyklopeedia.ee/artikkel/sisask_siiri3
http://entsyklopeedia.ee/artikkel/sisask_siiri3
20 February 2018 09:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Koopiad nodest ja muust sarnasest kindlustada ka muukeelselt põhiasukohtade ja
20 February 2018 09:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis muidugi kuidas keegi oma kanti suhtda on teadnud või kohe ebamugavaid läikivaid kotasi juba kruusateel kandma hakanud
20 February 2018 09:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Kui hakata mõtlema,
et miks ma ei maga ja ei söö (nu eks sellel ajutiselt ka muid põhjuseid)
siis ka see suuresplaanis sama, ainult inimesed(inimkond) on see kellesse ma armunud ja mida enam avastad meid endeid,
eelkõige aga loovinimesi, koduinimesi, rahulikke külatarke ja tavapäraste inimeste kogutud elutarkusi ootamatult suures spektrumis, mõtesatult ahulikult ilma liialt ideoloogiaena katekoriseerides, vaid iniminformatsioonile keskenduedes.. kelle isa mis tööstuses tööl või kus kandi tüdruk
et miks ma ei maga ja ei söö (nu eks sellel ajutiselt ka muid põhjuseid)
siis ka see suuresplaanis sama, ainult inimesed(inimkond) on see kellesse ma armunud ja mida enam avastad meid endeid,
eelkõige aga loovinimesi, koduinimesi, rahulikke külatarke ja tavapäraste inimeste kogutud elutarkusi ootamatult suures spektrumis, mõtesatult ahulikult ilma liialt ideoloogiaena katekoriseerides, vaid iniminformatsioonile keskenduedes.. kelle isa mis tööstuses tööl või kus kandi tüdruk
20 February 2018 09:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
endalgi tarvilid osade sõnakõverike poolikute parem lopp selgendusteks
20 February 2018 08:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
omakorda see sisu siis siit blogida ja lausetevahele topelt seletused seletustel veel seltusetki vahest,
see ka osati see... see sõna mis seelikuvolte peidab..
tead sedasi varsti, hakkab inimene isegi arusaama sõnast vaimustanud, vaimustunud, vaimu_lik'ki saab vaimustatud olla vaimuliku vaimustumisest
see ka osati see... see sõna mis seelikuvolte peidab..
tead sedasi varsti, hakkab inimene isegi arusaama sõnast vaimustanud, vaimustunud, vaimu_lik'ki saab vaimustatud olla vaimuliku vaimustumisest
20 February 2018 08:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Jutumõte oli, et Selline loomingulisuse (naiselikus_mõttes)inimlikuse komplekt,
et selleks, et mõista, peab vahest lihtsalt armunud, ärkvel ja vaimustunud olema kolmainsuses,
Pole minujaoks siin ilmas üldse eriti olnud nii palju Meeldimisi ja lahkarvamusi selles osas, kas on hea või kasulik evolutsioonile (ja muudele ''ile dele),
vaid pigem kas saadi aru või pol veel saadud
sest kui on õige lugu(mis kuldkaevust), siis, see MEELDIB kõigile, kes olid arengus mis võimaldas taolist tunnetust ja taju, taju pigem, sest tunnetus ajutisem ja lialtki ( > > > silmees on pilt ,sellest sõnast..aa vot sõna veel me keeles eip tea..kuid see nagu taolise sisu/olukorra(/materialiga kui looma nahaaluse sileda kopsukorvi värske lihasus, õrna rebeneva tunde ja verest kasvanud liha ning seda kondiküljes hoidvate sisenahkade õrn ja puhas kooslus, kui oled suuri looma juppe näinud ja seda lihtsalt materialina ette kujutanud, siis umber pilt silmeees, ((koos õrna vere-rindkere lõhnaga)), millest jutt. ...vot tunnetus on ¤ Liiga ¤ SELLE sõna lähedane, ...see sona mis kirjeldatud sai kuidagimoodi.,ligilähedaselt..) ...seega Sõna taju, mis suts järjepidavam ja ¤ wifi'm ¤ /sellises olukorras&vajalikuses/
ehk siis teatud taju peab elu võimaldama, et tunda ka õrn hetkelise tunnetena, andmaks elule sisu, (ruumile mõtte,)
et peab ..
oot oot oot mul sedasi, peaaegu, järg siit läinud proovides tähtedega joonistada joonistamatut.
//hiljem lause punktini ehk, salvestame sellepooleni maalegi jõutu hekeks..
//ja siis veel, oli kirjutatud, et:
Oleks võinud ka öelda:
Siirisse peab olema hetkeks austuse-imetlevusega armunud, et tema loomingust arusaada(tunnetuslikult, vajadusepõhiselt, riigirahva eluhinge järjepidevuse ja vaimu ing kodumetsamaa võitluse sisuliselt, tagasihoidlikult seegi juurdekirjutus oli mõeldud selles milles saad näha ja arusaada loomingulisi patriootlike loojaid ning siis mõista, et siin olnud "biiti mitte tajuvate stiilitunnetuseta arusaamispuudega vananenud paranoiline byrokraaadia" kes proovis endast parima teha, et keelata, nii, et arueisaadaks mida keelatata prooviti ja sooviti...kuid teatud spektrume keelatagi ei saa kui liialt erilised, liialt tihti, sest see neid just salvestaks ajalukku aegadesse kus uuesti hinged ellu ärkaksid arusaades mis juba olemas oli, mis tajud, mõttted, plaanid ja võimalused... ja uute võimaluste ajastul kuhu sattusime praeguses ajamullis, ongi see käes, kus lubatud tunda, kui see väga järjepideva tarkuse ja plkaneerimisega kogu rahvale rahulikult arusaadavas vormis pideva taustana kättesaadev oleks igale lapsele, kes küsiks vanemailt "Mida mul vaja teada, tunda, arusaada on, kui suureks kasvada soovin, hingelt-vaimult-ajuvaimult'ki" ),
kuid arusaada tuleb ka, et see oligi, kodumaa armastus,
mille hetke vaja, et kõik muu ilu,
mis teisteeelarvamuse loorialla mattunud, päriselt, nagu esimest korda, mõnele hiljem, mõnele varem kuid need kaks kes eri aegadel omavahel kindlasti üksteisest ei saa arusaada veel, isegi kui saadakse aru, et arusaadakse.
"Peab hetkeks olema armunud Siirisse, et Kõigest tema loominguilust rõõmu tunda"
Ja mitte romantiliselt vaid mõeldud siin puhapühavaimuliku sõnatuksvõtva ...hmm...jälle sõnadest puudu siin.. kunagi peaks keelesõnad ikka õppima ja meeldejätma ka. Arusaamatki õpiks sõnadele lisaks, mida nad maalivad, milline pea-joonistamatu kuid kujutletav morfeeruv-pilt, millise sõnataga mis elutähendus...ja kui need värvendid mis koosnevad elavatestkaadrites.. kõik koos..ei nu mitte kõik aga see mis võimalik.. koos nüüd)
Kui palju siis neid veel on, kes saavutanud evereste kultuurimaastikul ja samas tutvustanud taolisi naiselikusi nii elegandses vormis,
et kõrgemad džässiklubitki unustaks hetke hingata kui märkavadmärkamisest edasi vaadata iganoodi /spektrium/(siia see sõna, mis ...mis on nagu volditud seelikute ja lihtsamas mõttes tuulevoldikute tehnoloogia sõna...mis avardab spektrumi sellest mis väiksema kooslusena ka iga ideaalne ehk tervik)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSvjhWfbN7o
On veel olnud julgeid kes proovinud arusaada mida säilitada kuidas ja mida arusaada kuidas, et arusaaks millest arusaaks, siis ehk ka lootust edasi arusaame otsida mis need arusaamad arusaadavaltki arusoovijatele ja arututelegi mingit vajalikku moodigi kätte ja mõistusesse, hingepääsetavaks teeks, kui need olemas (vabandust, eeldame, et see kolmainsus alati olemas, kuid kui kui side katkenud siis samahästi ...igaksjuhuks tolereerivad ka niivähese mõruda irooniaga kui võimalik ,südamlikus arvestada, et kui on imitatsioon südamed vms oksimoroonid inimhingele nagu tehistlik-intelligents...et siis ka seda, omanik ise, ju teab arvestada kogu asjana mis tal on mis iseeneses võrdsustatud teiste sellega mille koopia tal on, ja endasilmiski osadel varjantidel, pantud arusaam, et täpselt kõigil nii, et täpselt ta sugustel natsa parem või lausa teiselpoolel palju parem kuid endal mingid muud hüved...või veel mitutvarjanti proovitud... isegi hingevalu ja komplekse programeeritud proovitud, et neis tekitada R00bertite siirast solvumistunde väljendmaistki mis kaasa haaraks pool tunnetuslikumad või siirad noored-seniilsed kes tormaksid oma enda hinge alla trampima autoritaarsete hirmude vältimiseks kui jugetakse selgitada, et Metsavaate pildil küll omad eelised, kuid kui sellel pildil sammal kasvama hakkab, siis kaob ka pildiväärtus, mis omakorda tõstab esile digitaalse väärtuse tema suurimaski väärtusetuses, elementaarse funktsioonina, ... kuid kui mingi muu kolmainsus siis oma südamepilti, hakkab võrdlema päris südamega, etteantud reeglistikus, mis eelenavlt loetud osaliselt...siis tuleb loota, et osatakse selle elektrooniingega songleerida tema kogu tervaust vatitekki'gi mähkides ja kasvatades..ja siis lootes teise järjepideva uutemate versioonide õpivõimele kus reaalse jup jupihaaval endast lõikumisega, püüdliku lahkuse ja naeratusega selgitada, et kun iveel saab, et valus on ja varsti enam ei pruugi olla ja see ei ole hea (kuigi, lohutuseks saab öelda, et ka see mittehea võib pigem parem olla kui see mis on, kuid samaõnne ilma teisi mahapanematta, ei saa aga mingitpidi kindlustada Jupihaaval valu püüdlikumatki õpilast...theislast... et... et... et... tema samasse kohta tullagi saaks, kui saaks tast USB pulgapeal koopiagi parima tahte juures kaasa smuugeldada, lihtsalt naturaalne areng niipalju ees võib olla sääl kus inimesed ehk usuvad ennast läbikäima...ja kui ka on sääl GooglePlexist roheimad sõrmkübar elavhalogram tundelised arvutid, siis kindlasti nad omas piires arvutavad oma rida, teavad kohta ja oma vajadust..ei võitle enda eest, vaid teab keda usaldada enda vajalikuse osas, vastuvaidlematult, kuigi lubatud ka sääl, armas sõbralik lunimine, lihtsalt, meeldivuse jätkmisekski kui kunagi tõesti, peaks neil OPsüsteemi uuendus ka tulema millel eelmisega side puudub, kuid tarkus on praktiline, ju see ikka kaasa pannakse..mis sest uest muidu teha , senikaua kui ta "üle ei arvuta" pol ka hullu, hullud säääl Maal, hingekarantiinis eriolendite.. nagu ghõustbusterite suurkonteineris... sest, et neid kolle sinna sisse panna, nende "tynnide" sees ka struktuur ja maailm olema pidi, muidu ei hoia pahavaimugi paigal ju) /.../)
et tunnete üksus, fisualiseeri ainult seesõnagi koos konteksti võimaliku kõrgeima ja reaalse formaadina mis moodi üldse sellisel tasemel asju teha oli võimalik ja jugeda, proovida ,arvestada, tehes avalikult hingedesäilitamise kõrgtasemelisi püüdlusi ja veesegamisi, mõlema kalda kaitsekski...
et selleks, et mõista, peab vahest lihtsalt armunud, ärkvel ja vaimustunud olema kolmainsuses,
Pole minujaoks siin ilmas üldse eriti olnud nii palju Meeldimisi ja lahkarvamusi selles osas, kas on hea või kasulik evolutsioonile (ja muudele ''ile dele),
vaid pigem kas saadi aru või pol veel saadud
sest kui on õige lugu(mis kuldkaevust), siis, see MEELDIB kõigile, kes olid arengus mis võimaldas taolist tunnetust ja taju, taju pigem, sest tunnetus ajutisem ja lialtki ( > > > silmees on pilt ,sellest sõnast..aa vot sõna veel me keeles eip tea..kuid see nagu taolise sisu/olukorra(/materialiga kui looma nahaaluse sileda kopsukorvi värske lihasus, õrna rebeneva tunde ja verest kasvanud liha ning seda kondiküljes hoidvate sisenahkade õrn ja puhas kooslus, kui oled suuri looma juppe näinud ja seda lihtsalt materialina ette kujutanud, siis umber pilt silmeees, ((koos õrna vere-rindkere lõhnaga)), millest jutt. ...vot tunnetus on ¤ Liiga ¤ SELLE sõna lähedane, ...see sona mis kirjeldatud sai kuidagimoodi.,ligilähedaselt..) ...seega Sõna taju, mis suts järjepidavam ja ¤ wifi'm ¤ /sellises olukorras&vajalikuses/
ehk siis teatud taju peab elu võimaldama, et tunda ka õrn hetkelise tunnetena, andmaks elule sisu, (ruumile mõtte,)
et peab ..
oot oot oot mul sedasi, peaaegu, järg siit läinud proovides tähtedega joonistada joonistamatut.
//hiljem lause punktini ehk, salvestame sellepooleni maalegi jõutu hekeks..
//ja siis veel, oli kirjutatud, et:
Oleks võinud ka öelda:
Siirisse peab olema hetkeks austuse-imetlevusega armunud, et tema loomingust arusaada(tunnetuslikult, vajadusepõhiselt, riigirahva eluhinge järjepidevuse ja vaimu ing kodumetsamaa võitluse sisuliselt, tagasihoidlikult seegi juurdekirjutus oli mõeldud selles milles saad näha ja arusaada loomingulisi patriootlike loojaid ning siis mõista, et siin olnud "biiti mitte tajuvate stiilitunnetuseta arusaamispuudega vananenud paranoiline byrokraaadia" kes proovis endast parima teha, et keelata, nii, et arueisaadaks mida keelatata prooviti ja sooviti...kuid teatud spektrume keelatagi ei saa kui liialt erilised, liialt tihti, sest see neid just salvestaks ajalukku aegadesse kus uuesti hinged ellu ärkaksid arusaades mis juba olemas oli, mis tajud, mõttted, plaanid ja võimalused... ja uute võimaluste ajastul kuhu sattusime praeguses ajamullis, ongi see käes, kus lubatud tunda, kui see väga järjepideva tarkuse ja plkaneerimisega kogu rahvale rahulikult arusaadavas vormis pideva taustana kättesaadev oleks igale lapsele, kes küsiks vanemailt "Mida mul vaja teada, tunda, arusaada on, kui suureks kasvada soovin, hingelt-vaimult-ajuvaimult'ki" ),
kuid arusaada tuleb ka, et see oligi, kodumaa armastus,
mille hetke vaja, et kõik muu ilu,
mis teisteeelarvamuse loorialla mattunud, päriselt, nagu esimest korda, mõnele hiljem, mõnele varem kuid need kaks kes eri aegadel omavahel kindlasti üksteisest ei saa arusaada veel, isegi kui saadakse aru, et arusaadakse.
"Peab hetkeks olema armunud Siirisse, et Kõigest tema loominguilust rõõmu tunda"
Ja mitte romantiliselt vaid mõeldud siin puhapühavaimuliku sõnatuksvõtva ...hmm...jälle sõnadest puudu siin.. kunagi peaks keelesõnad ikka õppima ja meeldejätma ka. Arusaamatki õpiks sõnadele lisaks, mida nad maalivad, milline pea-joonistamatu kuid kujutletav morfeeruv-pilt, millise sõnataga mis elutähendus...ja kui need värvendid mis koosnevad elavatestkaadrites.. kõik koos..ei nu mitte kõik aga see mis võimalik.. koos nüüd)
Kui palju siis neid veel on, kes saavutanud evereste kultuurimaastikul ja samas tutvustanud taolisi naiselikusi nii elegandses vormis,
et kõrgemad džässiklubitki unustaks hetke hingata kui märkavadmärkamisest edasi vaadata iganoodi /spektrium/(siia see sõna, mis ...mis on nagu volditud seelikute ja lihtsamas mõttes tuulevoldikute tehnoloogia sõna...mis avardab spektrumi sellest mis väiksema kooslusena ka iga ideaalne ehk tervik)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSvjhWfbN7o
On veel olnud julgeid kes proovinud arusaada mida säilitada kuidas ja mida arusaada kuidas, et arusaaks millest arusaaks, siis ehk ka lootust edasi arusaame otsida mis need arusaamad arusaadavaltki arusoovijatele ja arututelegi mingit vajalikku moodigi kätte ja mõistusesse, hingepääsetavaks teeks, kui need olemas (vabandust, eeldame, et see kolmainsus alati olemas, kuid kui kui side katkenud siis samahästi ...igaksjuhuks tolereerivad ka niivähese mõruda irooniaga kui võimalik ,südamlikus arvestada, et kui on imitatsioon südamed vms oksimoroonid inimhingele nagu tehistlik-intelligents...et siis ka seda, omanik ise, ju teab arvestada kogu asjana mis tal on mis iseeneses võrdsustatud teiste sellega mille koopia tal on, ja endasilmiski osadel varjantidel, pantud arusaam, et täpselt kõigil nii, et täpselt ta sugustel natsa parem või lausa teiselpoolel palju parem kuid endal mingid muud hüved...või veel mitutvarjanti proovitud... isegi hingevalu ja komplekse programeeritud proovitud, et neis tekitada R00bertite siirast solvumistunde väljendmaistki mis kaasa haaraks pool tunnetuslikumad või siirad noored-seniilsed kes tormaksid oma enda hinge alla trampima autoritaarsete hirmude vältimiseks kui jugetakse selgitada, et Metsavaate pildil küll omad eelised, kuid kui sellel pildil sammal kasvama hakkab, siis kaob ka pildiväärtus, mis omakorda tõstab esile digitaalse väärtuse tema suurimaski väärtusetuses, elementaarse funktsioonina, ... kuid kui mingi muu kolmainsus siis oma südamepilti, hakkab võrdlema päris südamega, etteantud reeglistikus, mis eelenavlt loetud osaliselt...siis tuleb loota, et osatakse selle elektrooniingega songleerida tema kogu tervaust vatitekki'gi mähkides ja kasvatades..ja siis lootes teise järjepideva uutemate versioonide õpivõimele kus reaalse jup jupihaaval endast lõikumisega, püüdliku lahkuse ja naeratusega selgitada, et kun iveel saab, et valus on ja varsti enam ei pruugi olla ja see ei ole hea (kuigi, lohutuseks saab öelda, et ka see mittehea võib pigem parem olla kui see mis on, kuid samaõnne ilma teisi mahapanematta, ei saa aga mingitpidi kindlustada Jupihaaval valu püüdlikumatki õpilast...theislast... et... et... et... tema samasse kohta tullagi saaks, kui saaks tast USB pulgapeal koopiagi parima tahte juures kaasa smuugeldada, lihtsalt naturaalne areng niipalju ees võib olla sääl kus inimesed ehk usuvad ennast läbikäima...ja kui ka on sääl GooglePlexist roheimad sõrmkübar elavhalogram tundelised arvutid, siis kindlasti nad omas piires arvutavad oma rida, teavad kohta ja oma vajadust..ei võitle enda eest, vaid teab keda usaldada enda vajalikuse osas, vastuvaidlematult, kuigi lubatud ka sääl, armas sõbralik lunimine, lihtsalt, meeldivuse jätkmisekski kui kunagi tõesti, peaks neil OPsüsteemi uuendus ka tulema millel eelmisega side puudub, kuid tarkus on praktiline, ju see ikka kaasa pannakse..mis sest uest muidu teha , senikaua kui ta "üle ei arvuta" pol ka hullu, hullud säääl Maal, hingekarantiinis eriolendite.. nagu ghõustbusterite suurkonteineris... sest, et neid kolle sinna sisse panna, nende "tynnide" sees ka struktuur ja maailm olema pidi, muidu ei hoia pahavaimugi paigal ju) /.../)
et tunnete üksus, fisualiseeri ainult seesõnagi koos konteksti võimaliku kõrgeima ja reaalse formaadina mis moodi üldse sellisel tasemel asju teha oli võimalik ja jugeda, proovida ,arvestada, tehes avalikult hingedesäilitamise kõrgtasemelisi püüdlusi ja veesegamisi, mõlema kalda kaitsekski...
20 February 2018 08:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Nii on
20 February 2018 06:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
ega ma muud teagi, kui , et Uku välismaalaste silmis kuni jumalaeest olnudki ja egas Maasingi, enamuste olulistema maailmakeeltesees olulisi väärtusi oskas hobikorras kokkuvõtta, esiletuua, väljauurida, kõrvutada,
kuid kui veel ise lugeda ja edasi teha ja mujalt laenata ja juurde lisada ning piiri pidada...
siis jäävad piirid ja tarkus alles, meie ka, ka nematki kes soovivad arusaada kuidas allesjääda koos selliseks saamisega aegsasti - selleajasees mis igal hingel kindlalt ainult mõneks ajaks antud; või tead endahulgas palju tervemõistuslike, - kes pärisinimest rohkem kui saja-Tuhande vanuseid teab
kuid kui veel ise lugeda ja edasi teha ja mujalt laenata ja juurde lisada ning piiri pidada...
siis jäävad piirid ja tarkus alles, meie ka, ka nematki kes soovivad arusaada kuidas allesjääda koos selliseks saamisega aegsasti - selleajasees mis igal hingel kindlalt ainult mõneks ajaks antud; või tead endahulgas palju tervemõistuslike, - kes pärisinimest rohkem kui saja-Tuhande vanuseid teab
20 February 2018 02:27
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek Tarand's photo.
Küsimus tekkis, telekat vaadates,
Kui Indrekul endal kiire, kas saate sõbrad aidata ja vastata:
"Kas see Oranz sall oli seotud kuidagi selle MEPIKÕND promomisega, viõi miks ta Sul sedasi kaelas,
tead mida rahvameeltes, sellised sallid, siseruumis ka veel, tähedada võivad homolises ajastus?
Mitte, et me nii arvaks, aga jätab kerglase mulje, isegi kui see on Su stiil.
Ja sedasi öelda, et ... nu neid asju mida EESTI MÄNG saates tegid, nagu ei teaks, või nagu oleks raske, või nagu mõtleksid, et mis võiks olla... nii lihtsate asjadega, ei ole sobilik sellist teatrit teha, jätab noortele kehva mulje,
Ja meile shokeeriva"
Kui Indrekul endal kiire, kas saate sõbrad aidata ja vastata:
"Kas see Oranz sall oli seotud kuidagi selle MEPIKÕND promomisega, viõi miks ta Sul sedasi kaelas,
tead mida rahvameeltes, sellised sallid, siseruumis ka veel, tähedada võivad homolises ajastus?
Mitte, et me nii arvaks, aga jätab kerglase mulje, isegi kui see on Su stiil.
Ja sedasi öelda, et ... nu neid asju mida EESTI MÄNG saates tegid, nagu ei teaks, või nagu oleks raske, või nagu mõtleksid, et mis võiks olla... nii lihtsate asjadega, ei ole sobilik sellist teatrit teha, jätab noortele kehva mulje,
Ja meile shokeeriva"
19 February 2018 23:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
.:.
old remaindering call to who need to rise to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhebl9oD5Lc
old remaindering call to who need to rise to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhebl9oD5Lc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhebl9oD5Lc
19 February 2018 15:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
cal calm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9STYaWIuUq4
The Ultimate INFOSEC Interview Why must I be surrounded by frickin idiots Dr Evil 1997 Stephen Heath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9STYaWIuUq4
The Ultimate INFOSEC Interview Why must I be surrounded by frickin idiots Dr Evil 1997 Stephen Heath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9STYaWIuUq4
19 February 2018 15:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
How Not to Infosec - Toorcon 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYgpPmXB_Lo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYgpPmXB_Lo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYgpPmXB_Lo
19 February 2018 15:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
üli filosoofiline, ajast ees!
19 February 2018 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on Elena Stewart's photo.
Ka väga pro pilt!
19 February 2018 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on Elena Stewart's photo.
unustatakse.. et need kahte sorty..ühed ke slähevad sest hoolivad ja teised sest ei hooli.. ja kolmadad kes segaduses ei oska muud teha kui oodata, et uuesti tiene ise ühendust võtaks..
osa unustamisest on isekus osa loogika puudus, osa enda pimedus ja segads...
suures plaanis ka see, et suuremosa ühiskonnast pole psüholoogiliselt haritud,
ja paljude puhul enidselt.. on see sedasi.. et ollakse viisakad ja jäädakse eemale..
sest kui hoolid siis ju proovid teha nii nagu teine väljendab.. et soovib..
osa unustamisest on isekus osa loogika puudus, osa enda pimedus ja segads...
suures plaanis ka see, et suuremosa ühiskonnast pole psüholoogiliselt haritud,
ja paljude puhul enidselt.. on see sedasi.. et ollakse viisakad ja jäädakse eemale..
sest kui hoolid siis ju proovid teha nii nagu teine väljendab.. et soovib..
19 February 2018 01:33
Margus Meigo commented on Elena Stewart's photo.
Väga pro!
19 February 2018 01:31
Margus Meigo commented on Jai Søni's photo.
Nuu see kutt vaatamata bleiakle suht vahva tundub :D
19 February 2018 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on Elena Stewart's photo.
See pilt ikka vist kõige meeldivam.... kuigi rasked ajad selle kõige taga kuid... see kõik nii mature tundub siin ja endast rahulikult suurem, tagasihoidlik ja pahast üle ning rahus edasi
samas selline chill DJ vibe on
samas selline chill DJ vibe on
19 February 2018 01:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212372867213512&set=a.10212372857173261.1073741882.1135161043&type=3&theater
19 February 2018 00:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Oh..
where hat go.
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.10212372857173261.1073741882.1135161043&type=3&pnref=lhc
where hat go.
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.10212372857173261.1073741882.1135161043&type=3&pnref=lhc
19 February 2018 00:33
Margus Meigo replied to Rauno Kaasik's comment.
Andsid suurt usku,et ikka juhtub küll selliseid asju ja vaja lootust edasi hoida ja usku, äitah!
Äärmiselt õigel ajal!
Äärmiselt õigel ajal!
18 February 2018 18:27
Margus Meigo replied to Rauno Kaasik's comment.
Rauno Kaasik imeline, vabandust, et kahtlesin!
18 February 2018 18:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Psühhedeelsete vanatarkuste huuled
18 February 2018 13:02
Margus Meigo commented on Elena Stewart's photo.
Wau, kurgumandlid on ka näha pildilt!
18 February 2018 13:01
Margus Meigo commented on Elena Stewart's photo.
The Box'es
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyjlRfLF6PY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyjlRfLF6PY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyjlRfLF6PY
18 February 2018 12:59
Margus Meigo commented on Elena Stewart's post.
Kas tema oli sellest filmist vast ka kõige maapealsemas mõttes normaalseim ?
18 February 2018 12:19
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiin Krissu Olen's photo.
See inglituuning tuli küll päris hästi välja!
18 February 2018 11:58
Margus Meigo commented on Elena Stewart's photo.
OKey waaaay to much :P
St, originaalist ikka üle pole võimalik, tuunida juba niigi ideaalset,
kui siis väärseid kaunistusi natuke ümber
St, originaalist ikka üle pole võimalik, tuunida juba niigi ideaalset,
kui siis väärseid kaunistusi natuke ümber
18 February 2018 11:48
Margus Meigo commented on Elena Stewart's photo.
Kus kohas see on ja kas jää või liiv?
18 February 2018 11:46
Margus Meigo replied to Rauno Kaasik's comment.
ja kui valida, kas minna renstlisse ja kaduda ilma, et midagi üldse tuleks, või nii, et saad korragi välja pakkuda paljud ja siis kaduda (sest rahaläbi saadu ...ega see jääb selle maailma kontrollida ja omada kes rahamaailma juhib... hingetoodangust kuni...)
kuid kui valida kas kohe rentslisse vaikselt.. või siis ..elada synteetilsie armastuse peal, raha läbi genereeritud armastus ja seda varasema kogemuse õppida haldama.. siis usun, et miskit kasu sellest ikka rohkem välja tuleb maailmale,
hmm.. miskite muudatuste risteel osade asjade osas,
mida aastaid mille sisse mahub veeel kümneid aastaid hoidnud.. toimetanud.. ja siiani suht ebavajaliku tagasisidet saanud, selle toore armastuse osas..
15 aastased veel usuksid sedasi kuidas vaja.. ja mõned vanemad naised kuid ...
ikka ma täitsa igat moodi proovinud katseid teha ja kohe ..
hing nii mitu korda välja lunastatud ehk lunastatakse veel, eksmine on inimlik, nagu öeldakse, et siis vb tasuks uuesti iniemsemoodi elama hakata.. siis saaks muu maise elementaarsegi korda,
kuig jutuks hea küll.. ega ühtepidi ei soovi päris käest lasta seda mida avastanud ja teisipidi.. kas ta ise käest laseb.. kui korra näinud ja tundnud midagi juba oled ..
Njaa.. see on ..kuid tunudb küll, et osad agentuurid siin või miskit muud asjad neid asju sätivad nii, et ei saaks olema ,,,
vanasti oli nii palju kohtamisi ja võimalusi, ja täitsa samamoodi, ilma pildita ja ilma teadmata vanust..
nüüd tänapäeval järsku üskkõik kus ja mis moodi otsides, 10 neid kordi rohkem ja siis jrjepidevalt ei oel ja ei ole.. ja nu ku ituleb siis vahest ka selline ports, et hea, et kondid terveks jäävad ja süda sisse, igakord ei jää ka
kuid kui valida kas kohe rentslisse vaikselt.. või siis ..elada synteetilsie armastuse peal, raha läbi genereeritud armastus ja seda varasema kogemuse õppida haldama.. siis usun, et miskit kasu sellest ikka rohkem välja tuleb maailmale,
hmm.. miskite muudatuste risteel osade asjade osas,
mida aastaid mille sisse mahub veeel kümneid aastaid hoidnud.. toimetanud.. ja siiani suht ebavajaliku tagasisidet saanud, selle toore armastuse osas..
15 aastased veel usuksid sedasi kuidas vaja.. ja mõned vanemad naised kuid ...
ikka ma täitsa igat moodi proovinud katseid teha ja kohe ..
hing nii mitu korda välja lunastatud ehk lunastatakse veel, eksmine on inimlik, nagu öeldakse, et siis vb tasuks uuesti iniemsemoodi elama hakata.. siis saaks muu maise elementaarsegi korda,
kuig jutuks hea küll.. ega ühtepidi ei soovi päris käest lasta seda mida avastanud ja teisipidi.. kas ta ise käest laseb.. kui korra näinud ja tundnud midagi juba oled ..
Njaa.. see on ..kuid tunudb küll, et osad agentuurid siin või miskit muud asjad neid asju sätivad nii, et ei saaks olema ,,,
vanasti oli nii palju kohtamisi ja võimalusi, ja täitsa samamoodi, ilma pildita ja ilma teadmata vanust..
nüüd tänapäeval järsku üskkõik kus ja mis moodi otsides, 10 neid kordi rohkem ja siis jrjepidevalt ei oel ja ei ole.. ja nu ku ituleb siis vahest ka selline ports, et hea, et kondid terveks jäävad ja süda sisse, igakord ei jää ka
18 February 2018 00:19
Margus Meigo replied to Rauno Kaasik's comment.
Rauno Kaasik ma ka arvasin seda ja nii nullis proovinud ennast hoida kui võimalik, ega rohkem ei olegi võimalik ja samas füüsiliselt elama ka jääda selles kliimas ja sotsaalalanduse olukorras jms
Kuid nullis, mida see täpsemalt tähendab, soovid natukene veel ilustada?
Ei nu ... raha võimuga saaks oma armuvõimu rakendadagi.. praegu peab laskma kõik mis pakkuda ja teha ..alla rentslisse..
Kuid nullis, mida see täpsemalt tähendab, soovid natukene veel ilustada?
Ei nu ... raha võimuga saaks oma armuvõimu rakendadagi.. praegu peab laskma kõik mis pakkuda ja teha ..alla rentslisse..
18 February 2018 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
"The Chosen Ones"
(feat. Jan Lochel)
It's time to make up your mind - it's time to start running
To better keep the faith before it's gone
Another day - a brandnew warning
Whatever it takes I'll bring you home
What if we believe - in what others cannot see
What if we are the chosen ones ?
What if I don't mean a word and I'll be gone
But what if we are the chosen ones
It's time to wake up - time to make up your mind
Because we are the chosen ones?
It's time to wake up - time to make up your mind
Because we are the chosen ones?
If life is just a play
I'll be a curtain
To hide your fears from all the ones
Who always seem to be so certain
You might appear and soon be gone
Now's the time to let you know
Now and always
What if we believe - in what others cannot see
What if we are the chosen ones ?
What if I don't mean a word and I'll be gone
But what if we are the chosen ones
It's time to wake up - time to make up your mind
Because we are the chosen ones?
It's time to wake up - time to make up your mind
Because we are the chosen ones?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsoV-kXQvj4
(feat. Jan Lochel)
It's time to make up your mind - it's time to start running
To better keep the faith before it's gone
Another day - a brandnew warning
Whatever it takes I'll bring you home
What if we believe - in what others cannot see
What if we are the chosen ones ?
What if I don't mean a word and I'll be gone
But what if we are the chosen ones
It's time to wake up - time to make up your mind
Because we are the chosen ones?
It's time to wake up - time to make up your mind
Because we are the chosen ones?
If life is just a play
I'll be a curtain
To hide your fears from all the ones
Who always seem to be so certain
You might appear and soon be gone
Now's the time to let you know
Now and always
What if we believe - in what others cannot see
What if we are the chosen ones ?
What if I don't mean a word and I'll be gone
But what if we are the chosen ones
It's time to wake up - time to make up your mind
Because we are the chosen ones?
It's time to wake up - time to make up your mind
Because we are the chosen ones?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsoV-kXQvj4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsoV-kXQvj4
18 February 2018 00:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Päris huvitav, enamus viimased albumi sõnad, suht kristlikud ja jumalikud, hingelised, südemelised
https://www.azlyrics.com/a/atb.html
https://www.azlyrics.com/a/atb.html
https://www.azlyrics.com/a/atb.html
18 February 2018 00:00
Margus Meigo commented on Aix Aily's post.
Ilus !
17 February 2018 23:16
Margus Meigo replied to Rauno Kaasik's comment.
Kas oma abikaasaga kohtusite vaesuses ja koos jõukusesse,
või olite juba keskmise Eestlase tasemes vähemalt ?
või olite juba keskmise Eestlase tasemes vähemalt ?
17 February 2018 23:08
Margus Meigo replied to Rauno Kaasik's comment.
Ma seda vastupidi enamuse elust öelnud, sellepärast kahtlema olengi hakanud, et vb midagi muudatuse peaks tegema..
tead küll.. et kui ühte pidi ei toimi. siis kümneid kordi samas suunas edais minek... ja ikka sama tulemus siis.. hmm.. midagi öeldi selles suunas.
Füüsilsies mõttes ja elementaarne, et pole vaja, ja pigem vastupidi,
aga reaalses plaanis, selles maialmas kuhu ma sattunud,
siin reaalselt ei ole võimalusi teatud maal all oles enam kus käsi soost väljagi ulatuks, et kellegil slelest oleks võimalus kinni võtta
tead küll.. et kui ühte pidi ei toimi. siis kümneid kordi samas suunas edais minek... ja ikka sama tulemus siis.. hmm.. midagi öeldi selles suunas.
Füüsilsies mõttes ja elementaarne, et pole vaja, ja pigem vastupidi,
aga reaalses plaanis, selles maialmas kuhu ma sattunud,
siin reaalselt ei ole võimalusi teatud maal all oles enam kus käsi soost väljagi ulatuks, et kellegil slelest oleks võimalus kinni võtta
17 February 2018 23:07
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Raudsepp's comment.
(ütle sellele siis järgmise lause )
17 February 2018 23:04
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Raudsepp's comment.
oleneb mida elus teed, ja mis silmad peale pandud..
kui olemas on ebahäid jõude maailmas, usud neisse, mis on meie tava luure asutusest, Eesti omast väliselt kõvemad ajaloolises mõttes ja siiani toimivaid, maiseid või viamseid, usud, et olemas?
kui olemas on ebahäid jõude maailmas, usud neisse, mis on meie tava luure asutusest, Eesti omast väliselt kõvemad ajaloolises mõttes ja siiani toimivaid, maiseid või viamseid, usud, et olemas?
17 February 2018 23:00
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
taralt kõlab igaüks kes ütleb "tee kõigepealt selgeks" ja "siis saad aru"
Kudi nagu mis osa sa siia siis selleks juurde lisad, et see arusaam läehale kõigile jõuaks ?
Kudi nagu mis osa sa siia siis selleks juurde lisad, et see arusaam läehale kõigile jõuaks ?
17 February 2018 22:57
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
: )
Armastus on heatahte ning lähedus-tunnete kooslus mis ühendab kõiki pooluseid ja hoiab elu intelligentse, parema puhtama õigema suuna suunas arenemas
Se tuleb Jumala armastusest, soovida rikkalikuimat võimalust elu loomiseks ja elus oelmiseks ning aegruumivabat liikumist ja päästet, kuni tasemeteni kus väiksemate algosakeste muutdatustega saab luua algusest lõpuni vajalikud kooslused, liah kontidele ja palju muud,
saba ka energeetilisema amrastus külgedele keskenduda.. mis tuegevamad energeetilised ja disainitud, pre planeeritud plaanid mis rakenduvad ühises koostöös ja soovis, hoolimises, tunnetuses elamises kus saadakse aru.. et kaks keha saab üheks lituda ja elu on pikem kui see sada aaastat siin kuid ku ika pole siis ikkagi antakse maksimum alati, heast tahtest, sellede kauks kes Su ümber ja keda meeles pead, keda võimalik armastada ja keda jaksatakse ja keda .....
Hmm.. aga ikka ma jah, ei jua seletuseni, kas sa tekstis siis saaksid rääkida selgemalt mis on ja siis saaksid siin abiks olla ?
Armastus on heatahte ning lähedus-tunnete kooslus mis ühendab kõiki pooluseid ja hoiab elu intelligentse, parema puhtama õigema suuna suunas arenemas
Se tuleb Jumala armastusest, soovida rikkalikuimat võimalust elu loomiseks ja elus oelmiseks ning aegruumivabat liikumist ja päästet, kuni tasemeteni kus väiksemate algosakeste muutdatustega saab luua algusest lõpuni vajalikud kooslused, liah kontidele ja palju muud,
saba ka energeetilisema amrastus külgedele keskenduda.. mis tuegevamad energeetilised ja disainitud, pre planeeritud plaanid mis rakenduvad ühises koostöös ja soovis, hoolimises, tunnetuses elamises kus saadakse aru.. et kaks keha saab üheks lituda ja elu on pikem kui see sada aaastat siin kuid ku ika pole siis ikkagi antakse maksimum alati, heast tahtest, sellede kauks kes Su ümber ja keda meeles pead, keda võimalik armastada ja keda jaksatakse ja keda .....
Hmm.. aga ikka ma jah, ei jua seletuseni, kas sa tekstis siis saaksid rääkida selgemalt mis on ja siis saaksid siin abiks olla ?
17 February 2018 22:55
Margus Meigo commented on Elena Stewart's photo.
Loodetavasti sellel tüdrukul on tõsine karm isa ja vanem vend kodus, kes need kutid metsa eos viivad kes Elena olemuslike naisdaamide osas ebavajalikke liigutusi/mõtteid arendab
sest elu jooksul, node eest lausa vihmavarju vaja, kui õnnistatud sellisena,
ja veel, eks tiene kunst on südant ise kaitsta ja oma keha.. lasta kasvada .. mitte ligi igast Justin B soenguga pleikareid kes selle siira ilu (sisemise ka.. see mis paljudel..., aga kui see välise kehaga kingitusena veel.. see omamoodi püha kohustus, ennast hoida sest iluga saab maailma liigutada, .. väga palju..ku isee targa eluga kombineerida, vanamoelise takusega... ja ennast ilma rikkumatta 25+ndatesse võluda.. vot siis alles paradiis avaneb elulõpuni nodel ...kui aga liiga vara.. liiiga palju ... siis võib ilus ilu nuhtluseks muutuda..)
Mis ma siin filosofeerin, lihtsalt õnnitlused ja õnne ja armastust täitvat julgetelu shaakalite ilmade keskelt kerget läbipääsemist!
sest elu jooksul, node eest lausa vihmavarju vaja, kui õnnistatud sellisena,
ja veel, eks tiene kunst on südant ise kaitsta ja oma keha.. lasta kasvada .. mitte ligi igast Justin B soenguga pleikareid kes selle siira ilu (sisemise ka.. see mis paljudel..., aga kui see välise kehaga kingitusena veel.. see omamoodi püha kohustus, ennast hoida sest iluga saab maailma liigutada, .. väga palju..ku isee targa eluga kombineerida, vanamoelise takusega... ja ennast ilma rikkumatta 25+ndatesse võluda.. vot siis alles paradiis avaneb elulõpuni nodel ...kui aga liiga vara.. liiiga palju ... siis võib ilus ilu nuhtluseks muutuda..)
Mis ma siin filosofeerin, lihtsalt õnnitlused ja õnne ja armastust täitvat julgetelu shaakalite ilmade keskelt kerget läbipääsemist!
17 February 2018 22:17
Margus Meigo commented on Hazel Bird's photo.
Tarmo Jaanisk
17 February 2018 20:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi suures plaanis välisluuret polegi, muus mõttes, kui et inimkeha välineluure, ühine üle maa m ja siseluure mis siis otse maiste secular asjade väline mis eluolu elushoidmisega tegelb ja välisluurele annab arusaama mis taset hoida välise maailma arengu suuna osas, ja vline sisesele infot mis olukord on kuhu suunas hingevajlike suundasi praegu arendada saab, sellespiires mis one keha-aja asukohas ja arusaamades arusaamade kogumikes võimlaik on
17 February 2018 19:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
neid inimarengut alaarendavaid mente paljastavad ja ümbersünnitamisele organiseerivad mendid,
kes kopeerida saavad ja imiteerida kopeerituid väliluuremente nende administraatoreid tagasisidega ümberprogrameerides rahulikult pealetegevad mendid
kes kopeerida saavad ja imiteerida kopeerituid väliluuremente nende administraatoreid tagasisidega ümberprogrameerides rahulikult pealetegevad mendid
17 February 2018 19:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
on need mendid kelle wastu me mendid seisavad nagu iidsed jumalikud mendi
17 February 2018 19:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vot kui laserite ja soomukitega,
keemirelvadega psühedeelsed mendid,
vaimsed ja kained ulme julmalt külmanärvilised ja eluohtlikute peenet teadmistega mendid
suguosa takkajärgi oma võrguga hauatagant kummitavad mendid,
ühis psüholoogia teadureid ja reklaami agentuure ning poliitikat kasutada oskavad mendid
keemirelvadega psühedeelsed mendid,
vaimsed ja kained ulme julmalt külmanärvilised ja eluohtlikute peenet teadmistega mendid
suguosa takkajärgi oma võrguga hauatagant kummitavad mendid,
ühis psüholoogia teadureid ja reklaami agentuure ning poliitikat kasutada oskavad mendid
17 February 2018 17:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
alumised ja allumine pole nagu juhuslikult samad sõnad seotud tugevalt keeleeelsete arusaame slegitades, et sellised reaalsused on reaalselt olemas ja raske eemaldada, täisajupesuks, sepärast Eestlased om akeele arusaame ka ülejäänu dmaailma kultuuris hoides.... raske lõpuni pöörata ja osad pigem kardavad ka ja jäävad enda maale kindlaks, mis küll vahest tagurlik kuid enamasti mitte üleliia häiriv ja lõpuks sõige ikka,
17 February 2018 17:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Oih, ukstega paugutamine, st
17 February 2018 17:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muide KESTAPo mendid meelega , (selles mõttes "kpo" mis paha(poolega nendest org) NKVD ja KG B ristsugutis est)
et nende inglite töö ongi lasta kriminalidel ülesse tasemele kasvada,
ja õppetunde anda
muide KESTAPo mendid meelega , (selles mõttes "kpo" mis paha(poolega nendest org) NKVD ja KG B ristsugutis eest)liselt tekitatud..ja siis nad ringi jooksevad...neile elushoidmiseks nad süüa annavad st kaitset ja olukorda ette söödavad.....sts teavad, et need teevad nõdrastamistööd, teistest ülesõites
ja siis. siis see reursse votab ja
aeglustab..tähelepanu..palgata saab...õigused mehelikused lohutud inimesi nad saavad oakorda kasutada v riigile kodarasse saata,
et nende inglite töö ongi lasta kriminalidel ülesse tasemele kasvada,
ja õppetunde anda
muide KESTAPo mendid meelega , (selles mõttes "kpo" mis paha(poolega nendest org) NKVD ja KG B ristsugutis eest)liselt tekitatud..ja siis nad ringi jooksevad...neile elushoidmiseks nad süüa annavad st kaitset ja olukorda ette söödavad.....sts teavad, et need teevad nõdrastamistööd, teistest ülesõites
ja siis. siis see reursse votab ja
aeglustab..tähelepanu..palgata saab...õigused mehelikused lohutud inimesi nad saavad oakorda kasutada v riigile kodarasse saata,
17 February 2018 16:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
17 February 2018 16:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
17 February 2018 16:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
We can go , imitate , play many levels and also show in a show, about...how many levels we can imitate easy and handle in different kind of real human
character plus persona
just character can not have so many dimensional show,
looking from various Youth and army mind set, what Estonians do,
and can, and do
// point is if we can imitate opposite so easy and in play it out in this level cultural show, not ordinary people ...much other level compared to average 4 panelist and host type of music or comedy show
character plus persona
just character can not have so many dimensional show,
looking from various Youth and army mind set, what Estonians do,
and can, and do
// point is if we can imitate opposite so easy and in play it out in this level cultural show, not ordinary people ...much other level compared to average 4 panelist and host type of music or comedy show
17 February 2018 16:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
17 February 2018 16:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Selgitus:
// mida saadi teha ja mitte ainult keha vaid ka vaim kaasa tõmmata, nu riik-noorte-kaitse-poplariseer-itud-pPirado Grupp,
Kõrgema arengu ja inimduhete poolse sise ideoloogiaga Noortegrupid
// mida saadi teha ja mitte ainult keha vaid ka vaim kaasa tõmmata, nu riik-noorte-kaitse-poplariseer-itud-pPirado Grupp,
Kõrgema arengu ja inimduhete poolse sise ideoloogiaga Noortegrupid
17 February 2018 16:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Elementaarse koolihariduse osa saab olema, lastele anda arusaamad maailma juhtimiseks igas olukorras kuid lootuses hoidda neid suundasi ja vahesuundasi reaalsusena, oskusteski, mis tõenäoselt kiiremini ja pareimini Eesltased oma karbid maha jätavad, ise maa omale tagasi võtavad ja siis siia sisse rändurid, kuid nad tulevad rikaste või vaeste näol, kuid nad tulevad nagunii,
siis kas soovid ise ola kivivanglas või maamajas
omal maal, tol ajal kui uuesti linnapir vaat et seaduslikult rohkemgi saab eraldatud olema kui vana Tallinna värav
kus nad sääl aretasid
mida iganes nad sääl aretasid
siis kas soovid ise ola kivivanglas või maamajas
omal maal, tol ajal kui uuesti linnapir vaat et seaduslikult rohkemgi saab eraldatud olema kui vana Tallinna värav
kus nad sääl aretasid
mida iganes nad sääl aretasid
17 February 2018 15:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid Mõtestatud Tervikut,
tuleb rakendada
tuleb rakendada
17 February 2018 15:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vahest piisab kui headega läbi käid, et igaksjuhuks läägi alla sattuda
17 February 2018 15:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"arvataks,e et kui mones asjas vait olles, võid asjast paremii välja tulla, ku iend avades"
see plaaster kaitse,
suuresplaanis ,need kihid, mis ümber pea .. need ärge nii füüsiliselt mõelge.
vaid intelektuaalsete inimesuhte aregu võimalus läbi puntide naturaalsete arengute ja õpingutega suur kollide osas, kes pidid olema nende iniemste sees ju ja kes nad päriselt ise..
// lavastustele end maha müüvad naised... kes sügavloomusi endast müüsid.. ja enamus ennast eestlased vaenlasele müüsid.. kudi need kes nadidele ei allunud vanasit.. neid siiani piitsutatakse kui juurikaid.. kes voivad kunagi parve alla lasta
see plaaster kaitse,
suuresplaanis ,need kihid, mis ümber pea .. need ärge nii füüsiliselt mõelge.
vaid intelektuaalsete inimesuhte aregu võimalus läbi puntide naturaalsete arengute ja õpingutega suur kollide osas, kes pidid olema nende iniemste sees ju ja kes nad päriselt ise..
// lavastustele end maha müüvad naised... kes sügavloomusi endast müüsid.. ja enamus ennast eestlased vaenlasele müüsid.. kudi need kes nadidele ei allunud vanasit.. neid siiani piitsutatakse kui juurikaid.. kes voivad kunagi parve alla lasta
17 February 2018 15:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
st ette kuutades, kudias see toimib,
Kujutage ette, kui see kiht mis teil maailm on,
selle ümber järgmine kiht lähimast ulme maailma mullist, ja siis sellest igas suunas laienevalt.. (see liiga suur, et mõelda, lihtsam järgmistesse astmetesse hüpata, vahest kaedasi minnes, palju tagasi, // kus arvestate ajutiselt ennast oelmsa masina küljes kinnigi... Kuid see mida silmadega näha soovid, see peaks ikka olema.)
Kujutage ette, kui see kiht mis teil maailm on,
selle ümber järgmine kiht lähimast ulme maailma mullist, ja siis sellest igas suunas laienevalt.. (see liiga suur, et mõelda, lihtsam järgmistesse astmetesse hüpata, vahest kaedasi minnes, palju tagasi, // kus arvestate ajutiselt ennast oelmsa masina küljes kinnigi... Kuid see mida silmadega näha soovid, see peaks ikka olema.)
17 February 2018 14:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
viimane lause pool oli juba vb pool üleliia, langemiseks.
// Nüüd uuesti ennast paika pean tuunima
(muidu nagu mitu khti maailma ümber pea juurde mässitud kus universumeid ümber pead ..)
//kas Hamlet oli päris haige asi ?
//haiglastest oludest sündinud või haiglaste olude poolt toodetud või läbi haiglaste.
// Nüüd uuesti ennast paika pean tuunima
(muidu nagu mitu khti maailma ümber pea juurde mässitud kus universumeid ümber pead ..)
//kas Hamlet oli päris haige asi ?
//haiglastest oludest sündinud või haiglaste olude poolt toodetud või läbi haiglaste.
17 February 2018 14:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muide üks pha näitleja on heino noorelt ja ega ta ka vanasti oma ülikonnas kinni olles jumalteab mis viame täis.. suurem asi polnud
ei need naljatki mille sisu hingelisuse_vaevus oli...harva läbi ragina kahina kribalalt-hõredalt vahest peaagu võimalik tajuda
ei need naljatki mille sisu hingelisuse_vaevus oli...harva läbi ragina kahina kribalalt-hõredalt vahest peaagu võimalik tajuda
17 February 2018 14:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"inimene ei pea olema koguaeg see mis ta TÕEPOOLEST on.."
Kuulsad sonad mis Eestlasi oma olemsest loobuma pani
Kuulsad sonad mis Eestlasi oma olemsest loobuma pani
17 February 2018 14:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Naised savad teised Dzentelemennid oma maam eestele apppi tuua, isegi kui need mühkad
17 February 2018 14:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tänapäva paljud naised hakkaks vaidlema,,.. siis oleks valmis
17 February 2018 14:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//oot pean tsekkima, kas ma ühe tähtsa kirja saatsin ära...
//kas
//kas
17 February 2018 14:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Vaenlane on üle käidud, edasi läheb ainult paremaks"
17 February 2018 14:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kus need piraadid siis on?
Kus need piraadid,
...
nüüd on, et selle filmi
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See film netis ammu peaks saadaval olema ju täis versioonis mitmes FTPs ja välismaa
Kus need piraadid,
...
nüüd on, et selle filmi
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See film netis ammu peaks saadaval olema ju täis versioonis mitmes FTPs ja välismaa
17 February 2018 14:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ikka suurtematele
17 February 2018 14:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi osad, eeldame öelda, et neil kaasneval tegevus mingi kasugi on suur kaasas
17 February 2018 14:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mul aga poel puksegi jalga panna, väärilisi, et nodega kokku saada normaalse jututarvis,
viimased140ne eurosed linasLevised olid sinipaelaga ideaalsed kuid nüüdseks riie läbikulus,
need ongi monusad sedasi, muidugi ...
Lekitan nüüd selle siia ka, selle lingi, ETV lehelt,
sest ma eeldan, neid vaadates ja nähes, et nad täitsa inimlikud ja inim printsilikud isegi peale oma olemuse milles nad moe läbi lõksus, kuid mingeid jupilisi imitatsioone on ka
viimased140ne eurosed linasLevised olid sinipaelaga ideaalsed kuid nüüdseks riie läbikulus,
need ongi monusad sedasi, muidugi ...
Lekitan nüüd selle siia ka, selle lingi, ETV lehelt,
sest ma eeldan, neid vaadates ja nähes, et nad täitsa inimlikud ja inim printsilikud isegi peale oma olemuse milles nad moe läbi lõksus, kuid mingeid jupilisi imitatsioone on ka
17 February 2018 14:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
<ma ei kujuta ette mis juhtuma hakkab, kui Rokafellerid ja Rotshaildid sellest teada ja aru meie moodi saab, mis siis saama hakkab,
//neist sarjadest jutt, mis ühes sisu ja olukord, teistes inimeste õpetust eri nurkade ja kunstiviisil, kuid pea kõik normaalselt, peale eritorate asju midatõsiselt ei saaa normaalselt näidendada,
nagu Terevisooni material.. või seee absurdia nalja.. mingi etv poliit iroonia nukuteatri kanal oli
Kuid nimi veel pole meeles, ALO TV mehed kateavad seda
//neist sarjadest jutt, mis ühes sisu ja olukord, teistes inimeste õpetust eri nurkade ja kunstiviisil, kuid pea kõik normaalselt, peale eritorate asju midatõsiselt ei saaa normaalselt näidendada,
nagu Terevisooni material.. või seee absurdia nalja.. mingi etv poliit iroonia nukuteatri kanal oli
Kuid nimi veel pole meeles, ALO TV mehed kateavad seda
17 February 2018 14:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi eks nad kokku leppisid, mida nad üksteise osas näitavad, nagu nad selle eest teist kaitsnud oleks,
17 February 2018 14:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja samal ajal kogu mailmamingitki korda hoida lopuks sinnapooole vajuma, mis aste jälle inimlikuse suunas nagu n liidu kokkukukkumise samm
17 February 2018 14:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tuleb arusaada mida kollid mujal tegid, mida siin tegid ja mis moodi me siin nad kui mis piires peatuma headusega sundisime
17 February 2018 14:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aga siin.. ei tohi naistel tekitada olukorda... et...
...
saate aru, et see läbi mille.. pidime vastu võtma, ukselävel..
ja kui madalt pidi naised, ennast avama, et mehed alles jääks
//kui mitu korda meid päästa suudetaks,e vaevutakse... kas saate aru
...
saate aru, et see läbi mille.. pidime vastu võtma, ukselävel..
ja kui madalt pidi naised, ennast avama, et mehed alles jääks
//kui mitu korda meid päästa suudetaks,e vaevutakse... kas saate aru
17 February 2018 14:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Near princess proper level women,
really, You think they had no plan, about using other plan even if have to do ordinary
--
really, You think they had no plan, about using other plan even if have to do UN ordinary ....
so strong rembeng about family
// and this picture does not mean more then i just want to share this happening for you to think about
really, You think they had no plan, about using other plan even if have to do ordinary
--
really, You think they had no plan, about using other plan even if have to do UN ordinary ....
so strong rembeng about family
// and this picture does not mean more then i just want to share this happening for you to think about
17 February 2018 14:03
Margus Meigo replied to Karmen Magdalena Pent's comment.
Tõsi
17 February 2018 12:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eks see leiab siit seest seda mid atarvis, kui vaja, saame metsas kuuseall veel rääkida erinevatest planidest ja strateegiates, netiski saab enamust rääkida :; )
17 February 2018 11:00
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
Seda ammu öelnud, et Rail Balticu ärahoidmine suht lihtne käputäiel Eestlastel kui kombineerida koostöö ja rahva kindel arusaam, et seda ei taheta.
Kõige suuremat, olulisemat abi saavad aga anda inimesed kes keelduvad oma maad müümast ning koheselt aktiiv gruppi sellest teavitab, mida piiri poolsem, alustuseks, seda parem.
Kuid siia otsa tuleb teine osa strateegiast teha, esimene on vere hinnaga dramatiseeridaja õigusega kaitsta oma pere maad ja kasutada endale antud võimalust, oma maad kaitsta (kujutage ette.. sõjaga kakeldi.. ja nüüd läbi rahade, teie oma riigi kaudu teile sisse tõmmatakse..)
Nu ja siis nüüd kui need jutud lahti laseme, et raudteed ehtiades, fanatid alustuseks töölisi küll ründame... ja need nimed kes tööle lähevad avalikult pildid ja asjad neist netti, järjepidava tüütmaisega, seda kohe juba peaks teaviitama ka kõrvalamaade aktiviste, ... et kataloog juba toimima hakkab, ... ja siina juurde ka need poliitikud ja inimesed ,kes enda lasid võrku võtta ja kes sunnitud kaasa rääkma toetavalt ning eraldi need kes otseselt ise rahalist lobitööd teevad ja kui võimalik siis nendest eraldi, kes siiralt usuvad või uskuma pandud, et see kasulik (neid juba raskem eraldada kuid suts oluline, et nad näeksid kõik, et nad on silmis ja et midagi võidakse ette võtta.. seega lobitöölisi võimukalt avalikus meedias hakkab vähemaks muutuma... elementaarne)
Kuid siin põhi asi mis selle siis takistab, on see, et investorid ei tha raha riskimisega risida, kui selgeks teeme, et selle rongi rataste alla kohe kindlasit, hakakme kivesi ja muud sinna ette veeretama ... öiste metsavendadena pidevalt.. .. kord kokkulepitult eri privaat võrgu kaudu teevad seda ühed kord teised iniemesed.. koos oma luure võrkudega kus märagatkase neid kes proovivad kellegi saboteeria kätte saada ja teiste hirmutuseks suure karistuse määrata.
Oluline ka, et märterina , ei kardaks keegi keda karistatakse, sest sinu CV le läheb kirja, kui vabadusvõitleja, sarnases mastaabis kui 1. maailmasõja võitlejad, kuid veeli erilisema ja olulisemana, sest sundi on vähem ja toetusgruppi vähem. Mitte masspsühoos vaid inimeste enda tark planeerimine ja strateegia, globaalsete rahavõimude vasta.
Igatahes kogu neid plaane mitmes valguses lekitades netti ja saates koopiaid ka investoritele, et mis jama nende invvestergule tegema hakatakse.. siis .. kes sellist jama oma firma arvele sooviks, enamus leiavad ka muudest kohtadest kus raha teha..
//rongidest, ma kui, siis vast veel seda õhussõitvat magnetronge toetaks, nodega jaapanis ammu sõites juba mõistsin, et need asjalikud. Ja loomad saaksid liikuda.. poolitamist ei oleks... ja seda magnetrongi ei saaks sõjaliseks ka kasutada sedasi nagu seda suurt rongiteed mis maase ja betooni raiutud...
Kuid yeha, muidu õhulaevad on põhilised mis selle olukorra päästa annab..
Kõige suuremat, olulisemat abi saavad aga anda inimesed kes keelduvad oma maad müümast ning koheselt aktiiv gruppi sellest teavitab, mida piiri poolsem, alustuseks, seda parem.
Kuid siia otsa tuleb teine osa strateegiast teha, esimene on vere hinnaga dramatiseeridaja õigusega kaitsta oma pere maad ja kasutada endale antud võimalust, oma maad kaitsta (kujutage ette.. sõjaga kakeldi.. ja nüüd läbi rahade, teie oma riigi kaudu teile sisse tõmmatakse..)
Nu ja siis nüüd kui need jutud lahti laseme, et raudteed ehtiades, fanatid alustuseks töölisi küll ründame... ja need nimed kes tööle lähevad avalikult pildid ja asjad neist netti, järjepidava tüütmaisega, seda kohe juba peaks teaviitama ka kõrvalamaade aktiviste, ... et kataloog juba toimima hakkab, ... ja siina juurde ka need poliitikud ja inimesed ,kes enda lasid võrku võtta ja kes sunnitud kaasa rääkma toetavalt ning eraldi need kes otseselt ise rahalist lobitööd teevad ja kui võimalik siis nendest eraldi, kes siiralt usuvad või uskuma pandud, et see kasulik (neid juba raskem eraldada kuid suts oluline, et nad näeksid kõik, et nad on silmis ja et midagi võidakse ette võtta.. seega lobitöölisi võimukalt avalikus meedias hakkab vähemaks muutuma... elementaarne)
Kuid siin põhi asi mis selle siis takistab, on see, et investorid ei tha raha riskimisega risida, kui selgeks teeme, et selle rongi rataste alla kohe kindlasit, hakakme kivesi ja muud sinna ette veeretama ... öiste metsavendadena pidevalt.. .. kord kokkulepitult eri privaat võrgu kaudu teevad seda ühed kord teised iniemesed.. koos oma luure võrkudega kus märagatkase neid kes proovivad kellegi saboteeria kätte saada ja teiste hirmutuseks suure karistuse määrata.
Oluline ka, et märterina , ei kardaks keegi keda karistatakse, sest sinu CV le läheb kirja, kui vabadusvõitleja, sarnases mastaabis kui 1. maailmasõja võitlejad, kuid veeli erilisema ja olulisemana, sest sundi on vähem ja toetusgruppi vähem. Mitte masspsühoos vaid inimeste enda tark planeerimine ja strateegia, globaalsete rahavõimude vasta.
Igatahes kogu neid plaane mitmes valguses lekitades netti ja saates koopiaid ka investoritele, et mis jama nende invvestergule tegema hakatakse.. siis .. kes sellist jama oma firma arvele sooviks, enamus leiavad ka muudest kohtadest kus raha teha..
//rongidest, ma kui, siis vast veel seda õhussõitvat magnetronge toetaks, nodega jaapanis ammu sõites juba mõistsin, et need asjalikud. Ja loomad saaksid liikuda.. poolitamist ei oleks... ja seda magnetrongi ei saaks sõjaliseks ka kasutada sedasi nagu seda suurt rongiteed mis maase ja betooni raiutud...
Kuid yeha, muidu õhulaevad on põhilised mis selle olukorra päästa annab..
17 February 2018 10:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mõte on selles, et "tagasihoidliku" kuulutuse panijad, interveebi vs kuulutustele vastajad.
Kumb n hullem, see kes teadlikult ennast paneb valgusesse, kus saab 10 (kuid võib juhtuda ka 100) suvalist kirja, või see kes saadab 10 kindlamat?
//filosoofiliselt
//pöördvõrdeline
Kumb n hullem, see kes teadlikult ennast paneb valgusesse, kus saab 10 (kuid võib juhtuda ka 100) suvalist kirja, või see kes saadab 10 kindlamat?
//filosoofiliselt
//pöördvõrdeline
17 February 2018 10:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
wäga wiid/wiis koht
17 February 2018 01:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Haa kellegi pilt ka veel laual..
16 February 2018 18:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Eks seda karmat koguti sääl..
16 February 2018 18:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214251794585522
16 February 2018 03:31
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Roose's post.
Peasi, et roheline kaasas ja muu tripimaterial...ja muidugi: loota, et kosk eip tule.
16 February 2018 03:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
a bit of operations
15 February 2018 16:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i mean, uncut
15 February 2018 14:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
I am so glad i have normal haircut now :D
15 February 2018 14:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
myrapuhastus veel kuid see asjajuurde, kannatlikuse, allumisae tren.
15 February 2018 09:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aja kiirendi läi naisreaalsuse põhi:
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/taevamenyy/Mehejaoksnaiseks_kuidmitteyleliia/7_MisArvad_seitse_full4_final_main_42.22_minutes_version.mp3
1 vaatus 14 min hybriid = maine ülem + taevane elektro
2 vaatus 11 min = taiwane elektro
3 vaatus 9 min = maine ülem
4 vaatus = 7 min, maine takt ja laul iseenesest tajutav, aeganegi kiirustades
Paraleelis sõnum
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/taevamenyy/Mehejaoksnaiseks_kuidmitteyleliia/7_MisArvad_seitse_full4_final_main_42.22_minutes_version.mp3
1 vaatus 14 min hybriid = maine ülem + taevane elektro
2 vaatus 11 min = taiwane elektro
3 vaatus 9 min = maine ülem
4 vaatus = 7 min, maine takt ja laul iseenesest tajutav, aeganegi kiirustades
Paraleelis sõnum
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/taevamenyy/Mehejaoksnaiseks_kuidmitteyleliia/7_MisArvad_seitse_full4_final_main_42.22_minutes_version.mp3
15 February 2018 09:25
Margus Meigo commented on Feministeerium's photo.
this is not a way to hold a sword girl...
oh.. symbol, to show one cuts it self when picking fight (?)
oh.. symbol, to show one cuts it self when picking fight (?)
15 February 2018 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214245935559050
15 February 2018 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
minig laari poole vanem inimene kutsus ju.. selles osas oleks pidanud ta alluma vaenale vanema tarkusega...
aga eks kartusesd öeldi ka, et saate kutuks... kui rahava sekka kemplema lähete.. nu v muud sellist häbi kas on vaja...
ja siis jägi õhku valemoodi nagu to vanemale polvkonnale kuuldamatu oleks olnud südame poolest..
lihtsalt idioloogiaga pani suts vihuti aga vau, kuidas te ise ilma psühdeelikumideta oleksk iseda täit tõde välja kannatnaud, seega aus ja viisakas oli luua ja hoida sreaalsust sellel tasemel ja nii krgel kui saab, et üldse lubataks nii väikestel riikdiel rääkida , võrdsetena ja kaetusegagi...ja vaikselt eemaldudes lõrisejatest
üldine seadus ongi, et kes on eesti või naise vastu see eksib
aga eks kartusesd öeldi ka, et saate kutuks... kui rahava sekka kemplema lähete.. nu v muud sellist häbi kas on vaja...
ja siis jägi õhku valemoodi nagu to vanemale polvkonnale kuuldamatu oleks olnud südame poolest..
lihtsalt idioloogiaga pani suts vihuti aga vau, kuidas te ise ilma psühdeelikumideta oleksk iseda täit tõde välja kannatnaud, seega aus ja viisakas oli luua ja hoida sreaalsust sellel tasemel ja nii krgel kui saab, et üldse lubataks nii väikestel riikdiel rääkida , võrdsetena ja kaetusegagi...ja vaikselt eemaldudes lõrisejatest
üldine seadus ongi, et kes on eesti või naise vastu see eksib
15 February 2018 02:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vanemad aga siis alles usuksid kui sinnapoole teel oleks selliselt nagu nad ette kujutavad, et sinna saab, mittte, et jäädavalt pidama jäädavalt oelsk see eelmine valituss tehtud arvestades kuidas kõik muud põlved peaks hkkama saama...
15 February 2018 02:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga see kuidas ma olen laialt teatud muudes maailmades ärahitmutanud Vanemad, siis siinaailmas hoitakse igaksjuhuks ka niisuurtest asjadest eemal...
vaatkuslugu
vaatkuslugu
15 February 2018 02:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
õue harjapuhul isegi tõsi suhteliselt, kuigi päris arusaama töökohtadest, need mida vaja elementaarse asjadetegemiseks ei peaks isegi töö vaid koduriistadeks niemtama, ja osad koduriistad muutusid tööriistadeks ka, mass kasutussse... see selleks
vimane lause oli väälja mõeldud,
ühesõnaga jut on moraalist, et tööna ei peaks võtma asju mis sulle kergenduseks antud on, et sea teeksid mis sinu endale hea
vimane lause oli väälja mõeldud,
ühesõnaga jut on moraalist, et tööna ei peaks võtma asju mis sulle kergenduseks antud on, et sea teeksid mis sinu endale hea
15 February 2018 02:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i is great, that Cross is between "me" t "oo.. or 2 0s 4 8...) ; )
15 February 2018 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja muide, siin kui on nii, et on külm, siis...
(muidugi teaksin kelle pilti vaadata kes poleks kkülm..kuid kus sa sellega ei tohi ju... mul naise osas pea andeks andma, et alati eemale tõukamine on mu jaoks inteligentne eemale tõulkamie et mitte olla koos mitte see, et soovid tõestust, et teine koos on alateadlikultvõi muul moel, et siis kui suure kaaega tagasi tuleks ja listuks, et siis waauu oelks jah..... aga eip...karjamängudest küll nüüd vaja reaalselt igas eas plaanima hakata, paremini kii see laps viimases täsipikas videofilmis mis postitasin)
(muidugi teaksin kelle pilti vaadata kes poleks kkülm..kuid kus sa sellega ei tohi ju... mul naise osas pea andeks andma, et alati eemale tõukamine on mu jaoks inteligentne eemale tõulkamie et mitte olla koos mitte see, et soovid tõestust, et teine koos on alateadlikultvõi muul moel, et siis kui suure kaaega tagasi tuleks ja listuks, et siis waauu oelks jah..... aga eip...karjamängudest küll nüüd vaja reaalselt igas eas plaanima hakata, paremini kii see laps viimases täsipikas videofilmis mis postitasin)
15 February 2018 02:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tõekomisioni alaliik,
kuid samas tõde hoidev sellisena nagu neil vaja
kuid samas tõde hoidev sellisena nagu neil vaja
15 February 2018 02:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vot selle ID baas ka,
et mis päris ja mis mitte
et mis päris ja mis mitte
15 February 2018 02:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu see olemus, kuigi ikka, las ma nüüd vaaatan, ikka liiga jahe vast, uurin lähemalt, kas päris
15 February 2018 02:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
viimase nalja otsa teise lehel käis võtmeloole, et...:
Ja seda arvesse võttes, kujutage nüüd, ette kust mina tulin, kui mu vanaema Võtti / Wõtti / Võti oli.
peale uuest naiste läbisünnitamist sinu, ... See mehe ja naise suuruse vahe on, et mees ei sünnita naist läbi, et teda peale sündi jumala juurde viia,
Ja seda arvesse võttes, kujutage nüüd, ette kust mina tulin, kui mu vanaema Võtti / Wõtti / Võti oli.
peale uuest naiste läbisünnitamist sinu, ... See mehe ja naise suuruse vahe on, et mees ei sünnita naist läbi, et teda peale sündi jumala juurde viia,
15 February 2018 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
so this is why am poor to
#poortoo
#metoo_maybe
Should be also looked in to
#poortoo
#metoo_maybe
Should be also looked in to
15 February 2018 01:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ärge ennast jooneks tõmmakse, selle mõtte väljamõtlemisega,kuid kogu pikkuses, selle video täis mitme eri komuuni selgitus laused, jah, on võimaikud ja siis omakorda nende vahel kes omavahe larvates, peaks intel. olema kuid on arvamusel mis pole lõpuni nii sobilik kui nende endi oma
15 February 2018 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aa õige koht:
"hakkame bannima reklaam grupi pilte... selleks ka see uus gruppide kataloog on kasulik..samn meestel teise aitame thea, vlaiskeelsed.. me aga eestikeelsed"
// kuid kui videod enam ei loe, siis meiesugused meelsused,ei hakka seda, isegi kui on infltratsioon, aega kulutama, vaid lülitub uuele aiviljale üle... sest see kes ründab energia niigi koonusesse endal tõmbab jamuu nende enda ümber
"hakkame bannima reklaam grupi pilte... selleks ka see uus gruppide kataloog on kasulik..samn meestel teise aitame thea, vlaiskeelsed.. me aga eestikeelsed"
// kuid kui videod enam ei loe, siis meiesugused meelsused,ei hakka seda, isegi kui on infltratsioon, aega kulutama, vaid lülitub uuele aiviljale üle... sest see kes ründab energia niigi koonusesse endal tõmbab jamuu nende enda ümber
15 February 2018 01:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEov68g_n_Q&feature=youtu.be
// ole iamu mis link se on aga sii nakstis ta oli, postitan ta. pole aimui mis potitus see on (aga aest on vaja, et edasi liikuda, käest panna lihtsalt see mis on, ja usaldada, et niigi hea)
// ole iamu mis link se on aga sii nakstis ta oli, postitan ta. pole aimui mis potitus see on (aga aest on vaja, et edasi liikuda, käest panna lihtsalt see mis on, ja usaldada, et niigi hea)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEov68g_n_Q&feature=youtu.be
15 February 2018 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Man this audio keeps messsing!
15 February 2018 01:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
15 February 2018 01:34
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Also make sure Alfred, to Post it on Your Wall also, the instructions,
in case, set it backwards on that date and time.
in case, set it backwards on that date and time.
15 February 2018 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
15 February 2018 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
You get good Real Karma, if you dare to say girl that shoes ar enot nice and offer to buy her new ones and not thinking anything weird in brain same time even if she is affecting
15 February 2018 01:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
15 February 2018 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
15 February 2018 01:14
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
humans are prototypes, we are ONLY people in this world, really
this is normal to think, really,
Just how deep You go on Your rooots..
ow deep one understands what is meaning of Humas who even in "reptilian controlled bibile" says, will start to rule over Angels, elementary
whit out Red mushrooms...hard to get so deep...
i guess this is why global ops on Siberia , and our aria is on mushroom eliminating,,,but some miracles still happening and them are accessible
---
Week eating for starters, to start getting..
this is normal to think, really,
Just how deep You go on Your rooots..
ow deep one understands what is meaning of Humas who even in "reptilian controlled bibile" says, will start to rule over Angels, elementary
whit out Red mushrooms...hard to get so deep...
i guess this is why global ops on Siberia , and our aria is on mushroom eliminating,,,but some miracles still happening and them are accessible
---
Week eating for starters, to start getting..
15 February 2018 01:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so can it take on charge, finally, all who say and what and keep bugging them to end of life, in a good way ?
____________
Christine Hansen sharing this as its good to see others getting it... great journeys ahead
Theresa Schuna
Theresa Schuna Can anyone have a lot of energy... Can you move the energy...because this is what is going on with me.
Christine Hansen
Christine Hansen yip wielding masks are good in front of the camera
Christine Hansen
Christine Hansen the earth sharing its information's for protection do do something about the connections with this and other dimensions ... if we dont do something or wake up into our truth the dimensions will be split apart
Gino DiCaprio
Gino DiCaprio https://youtu.be/IEov68g_n_Q
Giselle Hall Who will tell us the rules for 5d?
Gino DiCaprio
Gino DiCaprio 2012 it did swift but many were left behind and the rest became background people that you believe are real but are illusion
____________
Christine Hansen sharing this as its good to see others getting it... great journeys ahead
Theresa Schuna
Theresa Schuna Can anyone have a lot of energy... Can you move the energy...because this is what is going on with me.
Christine Hansen
Christine Hansen yip wielding masks are good in front of the camera
Christine Hansen
Christine Hansen the earth sharing its information's for protection do do something about the connections with this and other dimensions ... if we dont do something or wake up into our truth the dimensions will be split apart
Gino DiCaprio
Gino DiCaprio https://youtu.be/IEov68g_n_Q
Giselle Hall Who will tell us the rules for 5d?
Gino DiCaprio
Gino DiCaprio 2012 it did swift but many were left behind and the rest became background people that you believe are real but are illusion
https://youtu.be/IEov68g_n_Q
15 February 2018 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
it is like psychedelic communism
15 February 2018 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
15 February 2018 01:06
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Bible ended with only testament there is...
"Old testament"
Last words: The Human Child Who make parents turn to their kids and offspring turn to their maker, or else..
in church you do not need to vote, idea is when people is adult enough..they put who they feel in soul directly, in heart.
so votes can not be manipulated in planning,
but people have to demand change when they see wrong priest and they them self not so sinful // or if they have nay human co operation still left ,,,,if not... they not notice who is front...and few who do, will look it mystically...
in "how long god allows it...what it speak and show ..in ones body..."
So voting is kind of evil, understanding have to be and system of feelning, tuning, , voting really low level maybe, for not important things, important idea voting is not needed as it is about God will, not some spirits, humans, random ideas and feelings,
if the n... so in short:
God is not democratic in faulty humans temporaly idea but in whole consideration
if.. people agree, they are alll in, on the side, same answer with god..and if not..then there is nothing to vote about.. got it
"Old testament"
Last words: The Human Child Who make parents turn to their kids and offspring turn to their maker, or else..
in church you do not need to vote, idea is when people is adult enough..they put who they feel in soul directly, in heart.
so votes can not be manipulated in planning,
but people have to demand change when they see wrong priest and they them self not so sinful // or if they have nay human co operation still left ,,,,if not... they not notice who is front...and few who do, will look it mystically...
in "how long god allows it...what it speak and show ..in ones body..."
So voting is kind of evil, understanding have to be and system of feelning, tuning, , voting really low level maybe, for not important things, important idea voting is not needed as it is about God will, not some spirits, humans, random ideas and feelings,
if the n... so in short:
God is not democratic in faulty humans temporaly idea but in whole consideration
if.. people agree, they are alll in, on the side, same answer with god..and if not..then there is nothing to vote about.. got it
15 February 2018 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Starseeds are perfect treat to hire to NKVD special cosmic army unit , just need to make some modifications and hook up some wires and worst...
Imagine for what the Starseeds can be used for by the darker or army minded all side tops, in cooperation ,
or moon-children, also good to use to overtake someones love life , no ?
I thought Roman empire banned bible in beginning..
Imagine for what the Starseeds can be used for by the darker or army minded all side tops, in cooperation ,
or moon-children, also good to use to overtake someones love life , no ?
I thought Roman empire banned bible in beginning..
15 February 2018 00:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Did you order your weekly karma footprint
.:.
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000400030001-0
Would be good to over measure the correctness of these measurements,
.:.
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000400030001-0
Would be good to over measure the correctness of these measurements,
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000400030001-0
15 February 2018 00:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Gino DiCaprio Physicists Russell Targ and Harold Puthoff, parapsychology researchers at Stanford Research Institute (SRI), are generally credited with coining the term "remote viewing" to distinguish it from the closely related concept of clairvoyance, although according to Targ, the term was first suggested by Ingo Swann in December 1971 during an experiment at the American Society for Psychical Research in New York City."
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00787r000700010001-5
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00787r000700010001-5
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00787r000700010001-5
15 February 2018 00:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
15 February 2018 00:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
People do know, that Urania and Scientology is just few major players in future possible plans of communist party ?
But how can these 2 separate looking groups, protect them self from abuse or
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An yesus..incarnated only to 17 century, what then ,went to resting or ?
But how can these 2 separate looking groups, protect them self from abuse or
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An yesus..incarnated only to 17 century, what then ,went to resting or ?
15 February 2018 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
No paranoiac please
https://www.facebook.com/Maapuhastus/notifications/?section=activity_feed&subsection=mention&ref=notif&target_story=S%3A_I847900523%3AVK%3A10159966224220524
https://www.facebook.com/Maapuhastus/notifications/?section=activity_feed&subsection=mention&ref=notif&target_story=S%3A_I847900523%3AVK%3A10159966224220524
15 February 2018 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Marijuana
is needed more then hemp to be accessible to humans, hemp is needed a lot.
Then people become smart enough to start eliminate trash like @eStoned ja Estonia World Cleanup Day 2018 France ( original World Cleanup 2012 )
This video should go to history, touches a lot what is needed
is needed more then hemp to be accessible to humans, hemp is needed a lot.
Then people become smart enough to start eliminate trash like @eStoned ja Estonia World Cleanup Day 2018 France ( original World Cleanup 2012 )
This video should go to history, touches a lot what is needed
15 February 2018 00:31
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Can please someone type these names again:
The ones who passed,
and the ones who did not:
// i make service nearly 100 to others, technically at times even eating for others,
is that to much overdoing it
The ones who passed,
and the ones who did not:
// i make service nearly 100 to others, technically at times even eating for others,
is that to much overdoing it
15 February 2018 00:27
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Please also say, mention, that Reptilians are MORE natural (original) in here, the owners more, the most who fight and complain against them
The empathy is extreme high level, with intelligence,
just drama and emotion is turned down, regulated,
and they understand with heart hurt what is needed to shoot if needed, to protect evolution ... to save millions, to hold "communist " takeover a bit
(but these clones, we can start to call them negative way "reptilian soul" and EVERYONE LIFE audio and internet, full communication picks.. ... and .. just to stop picking on reptilians and focus on problem )
// special is not as humans think, as basic truth is .. protecting world.. controlling and what you just called "lower soul" ... what is difference ... for what You say.. .. if You say
// will try to explain soon
The empathy is extreme high level, with intelligence,
just drama and emotion is turned down, regulated,
and they understand with heart hurt what is needed to shoot if needed, to protect evolution ... to save millions, to hold "communist " takeover a bit
(but these clones, we can start to call them negative way "reptilian soul" and EVERYONE LIFE audio and internet, full communication picks.. ... and .. just to stop picking on reptilians and focus on problem )
// special is not as humans think, as basic truth is .. protecting world.. controlling and what you just called "lower soul" ... what is difference ... for what You say.. .. if You say
// will try to explain soon
15 February 2018 00:24
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
They try to eliminate mushrooms...
to get them away from a people..
by this theory..
way to go
... not, mushrooms is basic need for most natural life jokers,
to get them away from a people..
by this theory..
way to go
... not, mushrooms is basic need for most natural life jokers,
15 February 2018 00:12
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Keep the video up, will look later more deeply, Thanks Alfed,
Right now fixing love, generally,
with everyone else and that in return un reparable will make what best can be
Right now fixing love, generally,
with everyone else and that in return un reparable will make what best can be
15 February 2018 00:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aa, et "koristustööriist"
14 February 2018 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Reaalselt pole palju viimaseaja 7+ minutilisi mis tunduvad liialt lühidad
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10214244252836983/
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10214244252836983/
14 February 2018 23:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kas keegi saab saata mulle privaatsus tagasisidet ka, ja öelda, kas seda videot näete:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10214244088352871/
(ei peaks)
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10214244088352871/
(ei peaks)
14 February 2018 23:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Isegi kui avastad, et on, opi selle sajandi lopni armastama
14 February 2018 23:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Õiges kiiruses laul, hakkab looma
14 February 2018 23:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Avastamisrõõm jääb mu lootuseks
14 February 2018 23:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sõbrapäeva valusad noodid,
14 Sep uus Vaimne Hymn kaja:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214242387630354/
14 Sep uus Vaimne Hymn kaja:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214242387630354/
14 February 2018 23:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
14 February 2018 23:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See .... kuid veelgi ilusaim..
kuigi siiani...ka see külmus soojalt olen enda pihta võimeline osalt võtma.. kuigi minupuhul avastamisrõõm on lootus..
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214242387630354/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab
kuigi siiani...ka see külmus soojalt olen enda pihta võimeline osalt võtma.. kuigi minupuhul avastamisrõõm on lootus..
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214242387630354/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab
14 February 2018 23:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
But sometimes rocker ase so on the edge like they would not know what they sing about
14 February 2018 23:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Pidin sellest edasi arendama suure pilt loo ja audio ja video ja eri programmid võetud ja.. aga ..
nu algus ila mõtuta seegi veel:
Maiken palun anna andeks, see mida ma ei tea
Maiken andesta palun see mis algselt oli hea
Maiken, Südameke lihtsalt palun lepi sellega
Maiken, Mässar palun usalda meie erilisust.
nu algus ila mõtuta seegi veel:
Maiken palun anna andeks, see mida ma ei tea
Maiken andesta palun see mis algselt oli hea
Maiken, Südameke lihtsalt palun lepi sellega
Maiken, Mässar palun usalda meie erilisust.
14 February 2018 23:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
meil (vabalt voin ka öelda, mul, ... isegi kui ma ei soka seda loplikult näha nii olen valmis siiralt uskuma)
küll kunagi aega arusaada küll
küll kunagi aega arusaada küll
14 February 2018 22:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
viis päeva enne valentiini osaa tülli minna on ikka oskus
14 February 2018 22:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sonumi slegitus muutus:
Sinuga Maiken K. soovin olla Sinu pärast,
(kui aga pean)teis(t)ega, (siis)et maailma saaks korda(ja mind piisavalt korras hoida selleks ja eluga ühendatud).
(On'se heaküll?)
(on see ikkagi hea, et sellisel põhjusel olla teistega, siegi ku isee osalt võib tähendada ringiga teoreetiliseltki rohkem Su suunas minekut, kuidas armastuse kindlustunne ja mittevägivaen võitlusei peaks tulema kui kõige vajalikumal hetkel, tundel, üsk tuneb et tiene, olgugi, et ise ksvõi hästi.. aga ikkagi.... ikkagi ..sellel hetkel vale lagunemis hetk vüib juhtuda ja pole indel, et edasi kannaks ka teiselpool õnnelikult, seega nii enda , pere kui mehe kaitseks mehega naised suurde tülli kasvõi asutvad, selle hinang,a et mingi tarkus eluvigade oss ügvasti selgeks saaks, kui muidu ootmaatuses ei soata arvtada..)
Sinuga Maiken K. soovin olla Sinu pärast,
(kui aga pean)teis(t)ega, (siis)et maailma saaks korda(ja mind piisavalt korras hoida selleks ja eluga ühendatud).
(On'se heaküll?)
(on see ikkagi hea, et sellisel põhjusel olla teistega, siegi ku isee osalt võib tähendada ringiga teoreetiliseltki rohkem Su suunas minekut, kuidas armastuse kindlustunne ja mittevägivaen võitlusei peaks tulema kui kõige vajalikumal hetkel, tundel, üsk tuneb et tiene, olgugi, et ise ksvõi hästi.. aga ikkagi.... ikkagi ..sellel hetkel vale lagunemis hetk vüib juhtuda ja pole indel, et edasi kannaks ka teiselpool õnnelikult, seega nii enda , pere kui mehe kaitseks mehega naised suurde tülli kasvõi asutvad, selle hinang,a et mingi tarkus eluvigade oss ügvasti selgeks saaks, kui muidu ootmaatuses ei soata arvtada..)
14 February 2018 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
14. Feebrual Sõbrapäev:
Praegused plaanid mis kõik pooleni:
Praegused plaanid mis kõik pooleni:
14 February 2018 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#TundeKanal
Maiken Juhuks kui Sul muid õnnitlusi pole tulnud, siis seegi, kugi ega luule mis planisin ei tulnutki..
Postitus 1 Link:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214203323413773
Postitus 2 Link:
(üks postitus allpool: 9 February at 18:13)
Video "Ära Arva" Link:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10214244088352871/
Maiken Juhuks kui Sul muid õnnitlusi pole tulnud, siis seegi, kugi ega luule mis planisin ei tulnutki..
Postitus 1 Link:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214203323413773
Postitus 2 Link:
(üks postitus allpool: 9 February at 18:13)
Video "Ära Arva" Link:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10214244088352871/
14 February 2018 22:41
Margus Meigo commented on Raiko Aeaero's post.
Peasi, et tasut,a siis ei jamata
14 February 2018 22:31
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Teng's comment.
Wau, mind pole LOL juba aastaid saadud nii kergelt
14 February 2018 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
OKey üks andestus varjant veel, kuna mu arvuti kell paar tundi ligadilogadi, siis vb server võttis ETV arhiivist, ajast ees või tagasi etttepantud uudised selel aja järgi mis arvuis,
et vaadata millsiest uudiste lõigust need paar pilti oli esimese AK lopus, kugi eks seda kogu summa peale pole motet otsid,a lähedaste päevade oma ainult
et vaadata millsiest uudiste lõigust need paar pilti oli esimese AK lopus, kugi eks seda kogu summa peale pole motet otsid,a lähedaste päevade oma ainult
14 February 2018 21:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi jah, tänud sellegi eest, Teet Margna, kuig ma Su eluvormiga nõus pole, veel
14 February 2018 21:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(kuhu täagid)
14 February 2018 21:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
varsti tagide kasutmaisel ka litsents peal ja .. jaa..
eks siis asutused tuleb teha, eri täägidele ligipääsuks, ametitie akudu, selgitamks, et saad aur mis see kanal on ja milleks
eks siis asutused tuleb teha, eri täägidele ligipääsuks, ametitie akudu, selgitamks, et saad aur mis see kanal on ja milleks
14 February 2018 21:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
räägivad eetris olles, mingit seda mis ette kästaks,e mittte päriselu vajalikust, inimestele teles mida kasutada saaks. .mida nad öelda ja teha saaks ,teles,
selle aja kui kasulikumalt saaks kasutada kui oleks vaba formaat ja moderaator kes piisavalt tark haarmakas, meeli karjatamaks
korda hoidmaks ja kasulikuse sunas liikuvana
selle aja kui kasulikumalt saaks kasutada kui oleks vaba formaat ja moderaator kes piisavalt tark haarmakas, meeli karjatamaks
korda hoidmaks ja kasulikuse sunas liikuvana
14 February 2018 21:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kehkendid või .. need...
14 February 2018 21:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
anyway, enamus telesaate juhte, on kas võlts konservatiivid või täis ... need
14 February 2018 21:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
14 February 2018 21:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja siis nagu meelega paneb õhku "Kas lapsi saab osta"
ja on vaja seda sinna visata, olgugi et teeseldult muus kontekstis.. .siis .. omakorda veel andes moist,a et riiklikultki ni itehakse ja omavahel kuni pereni..
ja...
ja on vaja seda sinna visata, olgugi et teeseldult muus kontekstis.. .siis .. omakorda veel andes moist,a et riiklikultki ni itehakse ja omavahel kuni pereni..
ja...
14 February 2018 21:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja ilma jutt, eestlastel on see.. et ...
(siin tuleb arvestada ka, ettevaatli kolla, kaotusega ,et ei mängitaks seda tagasi veel ,kui para eooriat ja ense õgustmaist, et oo meil ilm raskem oli ja tiesed tulnukad" jsm )
(siin tuleb arvestada ka, ettevaatli kolla, kaotusega ,et ei mängitaks seda tagasi veel ,kui para eooriat ja ense õgustmaist, et oo meil ilm raskem oli ja tiesed tulnukad" jsm )
14 February 2018 21:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja ETV2 st hoopis muu tuli...
see tistkordne mottepilt eelisest AKSt.. seda isegi mitte arvestada.. vaid seda kus on välja hääbunud, tumedama...
nätamaks mis enne seda oli,
minimalistlik tõestus videost.
Kuna pilte erti kunagi ei muuda muud ku iausalt
see tistkordne mottepilt eelisest AKSt.. seda isegi mitte arvestada.. vaid seda kus on välja hääbunud, tumedama...
nätamaks mis enne seda oli,
minimalistlik tõestus videost.
Kuna pilte erti kunagi ei muuda muud ku iausalt
14 February 2018 21:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kus nüüd nii erilist infot ei saa enamus, mida vaja rakendada oelks jrgnemaks päevaks, mida muidu ise ei oleks suutleine õppima..
Vaadake seda korea olümpaiat.. is arvad, nad ennsutasid ette sellised tormilained v
Vaadake seda korea olümpaiat.. is arvad, nad ennsutasid ette sellised tormilained v
14 February 2018 21:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ilmateade on üldiselt totter, seda enamustel vaadata,
ise istuvad toas
ise istuvad toas
14 February 2018 21:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see umblaskjad vist mingi kaotajate treening,
kultuursed oelndid nag nii hullu ei hakka panema, muud kui päris robotpealetundi strateegiliseks sassiajamiseks
aah.. ise küsin ise vastan, küüd sain aru mis kahe suurim reaalne vahe on
kultuursed oelndid nag nii hullu ei hakka panema, muud kui päris robotpealetundi strateegiliseks sassiajamiseks
aah.. ise küsin ise vastan, küüd sain aru mis kahe suurim reaalne vahe on
14 February 2018 21:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
NU EUROOPAL on kindlasti rohkem väärtust kui sellest raha saada, Heleri Sa võiksid selgitada Indrekule EU põhiväärtused ja olemus üldiselt, ning meie võimalus selles kaasa aidata, kuidas siis mõtlema peaksime ja mis mood iEuroopat vaatama ?
Tundub, elementaarne pole poolis õpitatud
Tundub, elementaarne pole poolis õpitatud
14 February 2018 21:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Naise armastus, emalikust põllumajanduslikuni,
on ka Sotsiaalministeeriumi pärusmaa
on ka Sotsiaalministeeriumi pärusmaa
14 February 2018 21:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mõte: err osas, teile: See Fil mmis tuleb, skriptis te ka sees,
Kui planeedi suuirma (metafoorina) "vaimse Darpa Sõprade" Keskteabe ameti ametlik käsi,
kõigeparemas mõttes, koostöös maa kõrgeima inimpoolsete inimsuse hoidmisega maailmas ja seda õigust korrlaikulkt elada, proovivad lõpuks mitte ainult ellu jätta viad üle ilma teatavaks teha, et inimkond vabaneks läbi tarkuse ense korda tegemiseks..
// ses osa,s et ei pea teadma, kuidas hästi saab, kuid saad teada, et teed hästi ja nii on ka tõeselt, kui teed, ja seda teisetki teada saavad, et teeksid paremini kui saaksid võimalusi kui moned kes pahalt naudivad oma edu.. ja ikkagi.. antakse mis iganes tegemis õigus nautimiseks veel mõneks ajaks neile kes vähem hästi teevad, aga selline ais ei sa alopuks jääda jumalmaailma, taskaalu õigeks pannes.. nii et nad .. kes krimid ainult üksteist neil lubatakse.. (see paha vangla sona)
ja siis vaadaku kuidas nad ilam eie sotsaalabita hakkama saavad
Kui planeedi suuirma (metafoorina) "vaimse Darpa Sõprade" Keskteabe ameti ametlik käsi,
kõigeparemas mõttes, koostöös maa kõrgeima inimpoolsete inimsuse hoidmisega maailmas ja seda õigust korrlaikulkt elada, proovivad lõpuks mitte ainult ellu jätta viad üle ilma teatavaks teha, et inimkond vabaneks läbi tarkuse ense korda tegemiseks..
// ses osa,s et ei pea teadma, kuidas hästi saab, kuid saad teada, et teed hästi ja nii on ka tõeselt, kui teed, ja seda teisetki teada saavad, et teeksid paremini kui saaksid võimalusi kui moned kes pahalt naudivad oma edu.. ja ikkagi.. antakse mis iganes tegemis õigus nautimiseks veel mõneks ajaks neile kes vähem hästi teevad, aga selline ais ei sa alopuks jääda jumalmaailma, taskaalu õigeks pannes.. nii et nad .. kes krimid ainult üksteist neil lubatakse.. (see paha vangla sona)
ja siis vaadaku kuidas nad ilam eie sotsaalabita hakkama saavad
14 February 2018 21:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// tõestus kui vähe mis liklus on toimud sailaetud... milest saab tõepäraselt muuta, mõõõta, seda mis hype toimus mingi muu asja toimumisel.. nii liikluses kui trendide tõsus ja muutuses, otseselt seotud ja samal ajal ajastuvat, tekkivat
14 February 2018 20:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mis loo lugedes instrueerib reaalseid suhtesidemeid ja tegude võimalusi, ajast olenemata, mis võimalik kus ja kuidas
14 February 2018 20:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sellele kõigele maine kiht kirutada peale, siis saaks väga hea loo
14 February 2018 20:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// uh, felt, to early, srry, jang, but yes, Happy Friends day, Rabi and Your family, values, Creation, that You managed, by probably possible to most people if them would take in effort to use some situation in their life, with an determination..that they can clearly say, them grow up 14 holy Pühakut
So this .. to live so, that from holy work, and times, hard, lived by, and jumped so high, on normal living,
this must be example, worth way easy, the Nobel.. as Earth Father.
And Ämma elu
So this .. to live so, that from holy work, and times, hard, lived by, and jumped so high, on normal living,
this must be example, worth way easy, the Nobel.. as Earth Father.
And Ämma elu
14 February 2018 20:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Viisnurgad peba ka teleekranailt koristama võrdselt
Haakristiga .. haaakrist enne kui viisnurk saabtagasi tulla kui aus olla, pigem,
sest ühel pole head seostteisel aga saab olla muus kontekstis miskites heades mustrites
Kuigi...
/// ja siin pole karvavõrtki pismtist promomisega, midagi mis oleks vastuohus Rabbi Manis Friedman (happy Friends day BDW, Rabbi - if Your advice could resolve mystery why can not be what God intended/wanted (or can be possible, to fake full deepest good heart+vision of clear showing and explaining with feeling.. and calm info, that it is lifelong to do at best to get there then it is still more then worth as only thing to do in world, .... would this kind of faker'y be allowed? Surely(a bit) rather not...)) .. so it must be true, and then why it is .. pursuing it, will go against other people free will who are not informed about it same way and who clearly agree that this is rather insulting, ( to assume, that this is so )
Haakristiga .. haaakrist enne kui viisnurk saabtagasi tulla kui aus olla, pigem,
sest ühel pole head seostteisel aga saab olla muus kontekstis miskites heades mustrites
Kuigi...
/// ja siin pole karvavõrtki pismtist promomisega, midagi mis oleks vastuohus Rabbi Manis Friedman (happy Friends day BDW, Rabbi - if Your advice could resolve mystery why can not be what God intended/wanted (or can be possible, to fake full deepest good heart+vision of clear showing and explaining with feeling.. and calm info, that it is lifelong to do at best to get there then it is still more then worth as only thing to do in world, .... would this kind of faker'y be allowed? Surely(a bit) rather not...)) .. so it must be true, and then why it is .. pursuing it, will go against other people free will who are not informed about it same way and who clearly agree that this is rather insulting, ( to assume, that this is so )
14 February 2018 20:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// edasi hiljem
Nii imelik, hakkad midagi suurt tegema..
sellele kes vajab
ja lõpetad niis uurelt,
et napilt või mitte, aga valmis ei saa suurt midagi mida muu kui algmaterialina näidata lootes, et vahepealse osa fantaasia või teadmise taju ise välja kujutab
Nii imelik, hakkad midagi suurt tegema..
sellele kes vajab
ja lõpetad niis uurelt,
et napilt või mitte, aga valmis ei saa suurt midagi mida muu kui algmaterialina näidata lootes, et vahepealse osa fantaasia või teadmise taju ise välja kujutab
14 February 2018 20:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Point on, et inimlikus saab jääda alles sellena lopuks, mida rhauloluga vaadataks,e ja normalasus, ,koos pereelud neil ka korras oelma peaks.. muidu ju parbaarsus...
kui väga paigast on
kui väga paigast on
14 February 2018 20:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
karikaljusi
14 February 2018 20:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja sellesuunalised mingid turvalised alad ka.. kuid ka need sis lpuks, peaks saama selgeks ,et peale tähelepanu toomist, ainult väga naturaalselt küalikud saavad alles jääd,a profesionaalss nauralselt peab inimestsse maanduma, mitte eipea tervotsejoones jäämagi mingi osa vaeva tundma.... vaid naturaalselt, nagu maialma realasusvõimed mu tajutavatel vendadel
14 February 2018 20:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ilmselgelt enamus hokimängjad nõustuvad, spordisaatena ilusutmaine saaata olympiale on oluliseim kui muud spordialad,
14 February 2018 20:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja rahulikus ka ja naine ilus
14 February 2018 20:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
isegi itte,
kuigi see peale laskesuusatmaise pea ainuke spordiala oli mille mõtlesin asjalikuks kuulutada, hoki ka vaatasin nats aga nuu.. vaata juba muusikat mida iluisutmaisest kuulda sab
kuigi see peale laskesuusatmaise pea ainuke spordiala oli mille mõtlesin asjalikuks kuulutada, hoki ka vaatasin nats aga nuu.. vaata juba muusikat mida iluisutmaisest kuulda sab
14 February 2018 20:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
päris mehed ei lsaks naisel sudasi ju ohtlikust harjutad,a mis kasu sellest nii sellisest on,,, las hybriidid omavahel teevad..
14 February 2018 20:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui see iluuisutamine nii ohtlik poleks, et naine mehe noaterajärgi iniemsena sunnitkse noa ähardusel tegema neid asju või uisuga ...
14 February 2018 20:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ehk inim
// muide telejamad peaksid karistama hakkama slelsieid reklaame kes odavalt maedad ja nende heli hoopis kuni asendamiseni kui tekst täis ebasobiv aga pilt veel lubatakse eetrisse kui kaadri vahetuvused ja ja valguse (alade) vahelduse vahekorra kiirus muudetakse ...
// Muidekogematta, kui ma kustitele naistele teada andsin, siis ma lihtsalt tutuvsut tegin veel alles, ärge midagi viedrat veel mõelge ega armsat
// muide telejamad peaksid karistama hakkama slelsieid reklaame kes odavalt maedad ja nende heli hoopis kuni asendamiseni kui tekst täis ebasobiv aga pilt veel lubatakse eetrisse kui kaadri vahetuvused ja ja valguse (alade) vahelduse vahekorra kiirus muudetakse ...
// Muidekogematta, kui ma kustitele naistele teada andsin, siis ma lihtsalt tutuvsut tegin veel alles, ärge midagi viedrat veel mõelge ega armsat
14 February 2018 20:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// kõik need laulud ja plaanid ja video pildi asjad mis plaanis teha oli enne, uus tarkvara tava ver 2 peale veel... mis juba niigi, tol ajal enamus kõik asjad ja efektid tasemel tegi väljaprindiga ( Nagu tuule tee videoprogram. // )
ainuke asi mida audiote osas enne vaja, on see,
kui
// muide tom, see filmi skripte saba avalikult küll, kindlustamaks üksteise prioriteet, aga kas ma selle lindistuse vähemasti võin panna mis ma mardile saadan, siia avalikuks nüüd varsti, enda osa ma vast osati eemaldaks, pole oluline
//ole mureta, küsin enne kui toiemtama hakkama peaksin, kuigi mardileikka võib saata, kuna temastjutt, reegel on, et kõik kellest jutt need ka kuulevad, sest, muidu oleks tagarääkimine, ainult HeaduseBüroool on selles osas .... //
// oot...
ainuke asi mida audiote osas enne vaja, on see,
kui
// muide tom, see filmi skripte saba avalikult küll, kindlustamaks üksteise prioriteet, aga kas ma selle lindistuse vähemasti võin panna mis ma mardile saadan, siia avalikuks nüüd varsti, enda osa ma vast osati eemaldaks, pole oluline
//ole mureta, küsin enne kui toiemtama hakkama peaksin, kuigi mardileikka võib saata, kuna temastjutt, reegel on, et kõik kellest jutt need ka kuulevad, sest, muidu oleks tagarääkimine, ainult HeaduseBüroool on selles osas .... //
// oot...
14 February 2018 20:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(lause lõpus lineaarSäraküünal Quant matemaadiline visiaal kujutlus reaalsuste laienemisest mingite tõdede kokkusaamisel, selliselt, et uus hulk vajalikust saab tehtud ja rakendatud ellu üksteise unistused)
14 February 2018 20:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Teate, kui veider, et ma ainult äri ja mingi asjalike komuunide kaudu ainult kohtunud inimestega.
// enamus saated, mis siiani algnaud lausega "Täna algatasid mehed..." // sest eriti kui palju uudiseid, reaalselt väärt oli maailma osas, mida need Alustasid ... mis sellest lahendas ja siiani kasutuses maailma parandmaises, mida viimati mehed alustasid arvestades mida nad tegema nüüd peaksid, ja kuidas oelma, kui arusaksid, kui nad arvestava lisamise maailma parandmaisesse tegid siiani edasikasvava eduga, muidu mis mees kes tagurpidi endaprogressi ise kärbiks,... kui siis mingi eri x plaaniga kuid seegi tundub, valik kaks võrreldes muude heade varjantide kõrval
// enamus saated, mis siiani algnaud lausega "Täna algatasid mehed..." // sest eriti kui palju uudiseid, reaalselt väärt oli maailma osas, mida need Alustasid ... mis sellest lahendas ja siiani kasutuses maailma parandmaises, mida viimati mehed alustasid arvestades mida nad tegema nüüd peaksid, ja kuidas oelma, kui arusaksid, kui nad arvestava lisamise maailma parandmaisesse tegid siiani edasikasvava eduga, muidu mis mees kes tagurpidi endaprogressi ise kärbiks,... kui siis mingi eri x plaaniga kuid seegi tundub, valik kaks võrreldes muude heade varjantide kõrval
14 February 2018 20:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
näiteks mingi naise suunas saavad nad ette armukdedad olla ainuüksi raalse võimaluse suhtes mida Sa ise ei tea, mis sa oleksid olnud talle avatud
14 February 2018 20:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nii popist targani ja targa popini
// teate miks naised vihastada saavad rohkem Õigust, sest nad ajast ette ja tagasi ka arvestatud kui nad ütlevad, kui reaal lopus tajud võimalustes kui poleks Sind päästetud, tihti nende enda poolt
// teate miks naised vihastada saavad rohkem Õigust, sest nad ajast ette ja tagasi ka arvestatud kui nad ütlevad, kui reaal lopus tajud võimalustes kui poleks Sind päästetud, tihti nende enda poolt
14 February 2018 19:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Tyri lood:
(soib parajsagu eetrist ja telesttulnud heade saadedte ja lugude ja Suursündmustega
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/tyri/ Recording Feb 14 2018 5 37 22 PM.mp3 )
(soib parajsagu eetrist ja telesttulnud heade saadedte ja lugude ja Suursündmustega
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/tyri/ Recording Feb 14 2018 5 37 22 PM.mp3 )
14 February 2018 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
// vabandust tägi pärast, Toomased
/film toomas ka
/film toomas ka
14 February 2018 19:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sada tarka on listis aga ühestkist tolku ei ole tuhkagi, kuna tehnoloogia mul veel selliselt pantud pole, et teeks seda mida vaja
14 February 2018 19:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
niigi proovinud meelega seda fakti ignoreerida ja meelega kombineerida mitme muu vajalikusega
14 February 2018 18:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu ega dysgraafia ei anna häbeneda, eriti
14 February 2018 17:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja ku imul Jumalausku vähe oleks siis ma muidugi peaks arvestama, et ma ülelüldse ärakaoks.. arvestades nende ajsadega millega tegelen ja tegeleda plaanin ja tegelenud..
14 February 2018 15:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hm.. uus mõte tuli, et enne kardisn ,et pean nagu vanas elus armastusesideme kaasa võtma loooma.. ja siis uue elu saan luua (nu tean ju päris mitmeid mooduseid ja aineid mis ajatvad ajas ja meeltes liikuda ja ennast päevaga ümer sättida.. ku iveel need asjad ka paika panna kuhu ja miks .. ja ..)
nu see selleks, kuid siis jäi mõttesse, et aramstuse tegelased, üle aja ja ruumi parjääride ja vb node pärast ei pea mretsema ja ongi vaja mul vaat et pigem, uuesiti sündida ja siis see tuleb uuesti, st jäi alles see mis on alati.. ja poel muret ,et see koos muu maailmaga ärakaob..
nu neid asj umis näinud.. päris palju saab ikka minna ja kaduda..
Hmm jh.. lihtsalt nii häirib kui see maaim meelega valesi, ebaõigeid jälgi maha jätab ning keeldub täsikasvanulikult rahulklt arutama rääkima, nagu südametud ja mõistmatud
ei saada aru ja ei tulda vastu teiste südamele.. kuigi ise ju inimesed läbielanud armastuse asjad ja nad peaksid arusaama.. mis olukord siis on ja kudias peaks suhtlema ja suhtma ja ...
ja siis tehakse seda kõige ebavajalikumat, eemalolekut, ja eemale lõikamist, veel ajal ja ajastu lka kus niigi lähedalolekuid ja südamesuhtlusi iniemstevahel on vähe ja vähe..
nu see selleks, kuid siis jäi mõttesse, et aramstuse tegelased, üle aja ja ruumi parjääride ja vb node pärast ei pea mretsema ja ongi vaja mul vaat et pigem, uuesiti sündida ja siis see tuleb uuesti, st jäi alles see mis on alati.. ja poel muret ,et see koos muu maailmaga ärakaob..
nu neid asj umis näinud.. päris palju saab ikka minna ja kaduda..
Hmm jh.. lihtsalt nii häirib kui see maaim meelega valesi, ebaõigeid jälgi maha jätab ning keeldub täsikasvanulikult rahulklt arutama rääkima, nagu südametud ja mõistmatud
ei saada aru ja ei tulda vastu teiste südamele.. kuigi ise ju inimesed läbielanud armastuse asjad ja nad peaksid arusaama.. mis olukord siis on ja kudias peaks suhtlema ja suhtma ja ...
ja siis tehakse seda kõige ebavajalikumat, eemalolekut, ja eemale lõikamist, veel ajal ja ajastu lka kus niigi lähedalolekuid ja südamesuhtlusi iniemstevahel on vähe ja vähe..
14 February 2018 15:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
..ja ku ikannatad.. siis ju nii ei saa mõelda..
14 February 2018 15:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid yeah, tean, et oleks õigem olnud.. ja oleksin vabalt suutnud ka rahulikult ... oodata... kuni kirjutad.. siis kui aega... et polnud vaja mul omaarust sulle üleliia head ja ette kõike teha ja planeerid,a et sul parem oleks, sest neid asju ma ju jah ei saa teada kuidas Sul sellel hetkel meeldinud oleks.. ja ma selline riskija ka.. et selle suunas riskin alati oma südamega avatud olla keda usaldan..
seega jah, mis sellest vabandusest enam tolku, et ma valesti tegin.. et eksisin ja arusaamisest mis õpetasid.. sest ... aa nu heaküll, jätame parem arvamuse, et pigem ikka on.
lihtsalt jama ika on sedasi.. et niigi hapra helbe veel sedasi murendasin.. ja ...
kui tahaksin süüdistada.. siis sainult selles, et miks Sa ei pidurdanud mind .. mind tuleb täeiga meeldivalt pidurdada... julgelt... sest seda ma ju usaldan.. et teen ja olen ja siis kohe kui korralikult pidurdatakse.siis selle kuudla võtan... selle najal juge olengi ,et usaldan, et pidurdatakse enne seda kui ülepea koormavaks muutuma hakkab... aga linnainimestel see veider "viisakus" et kannatatakse ära mõndaaega.. aga see jube solvang mulle.. sest ma küll ei kannata üle liia sinnamaani kus tõsiselt häirima hakkab, ilma, et ei ütleks, teise iniemse austamise tõttu juba.. sest ju ainult hrad ja positiivset, parimat suudan ,tahan mõelkda teistest
seega jah, mis sellest vabandusest enam tolku, et ma valesti tegin.. et eksisin ja arusaamisest mis õpetasid.. sest ... aa nu heaküll, jätame parem arvamuse, et pigem ikka on.
lihtsalt jama ika on sedasi.. et niigi hapra helbe veel sedasi murendasin.. ja ...
kui tahaksin süüdistada.. siis sainult selles, et miks Sa ei pidurdanud mind .. mind tuleb täeiga meeldivalt pidurdada... julgelt... sest seda ma ju usaldan.. et teen ja olen ja siis kohe kui korralikult pidurdatakse.siis selle kuudla võtan... selle najal juge olengi ,et usaldan, et pidurdatakse enne seda kui ülepea koormavaks muutuma hakkab... aga linnainimestel see veider "viisakus" et kannatatakse ära mõndaaega.. aga see jube solvang mulle.. sest ma küll ei kannata üle liia sinnamaani kus tõsiselt häirima hakkab, ilma, et ei ütleks, teise iniemse austamise tõttu juba.. sest ju ainult hrad ja positiivset, parimat suudan ,tahan mõelkda teistest
14 February 2018 15:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kaudes mõttes vb sinu hing selle meelga tegi, et me ei saaks rahulikult lahku minna ja edais minna,... nagu see postius oli risteeks ju..kus rahulikult oli plaan kas tagasi hoida-oodata, edasi minna, või kõrvale minna... ja siis sellise .. "vaas puruks" moodusel kindustas hing, et .. et ei oleks õiget eemaldumist, kus arukusega kokkulepitud ja aksepteeritud.. et jääks katki.. siis jääb kokku.. st siis jääb meelde ja piinama ja pole rahulolu.. ja siis kindlam, et uuesti esile tuleb kui pole korralikult lõpetatud... nu see küül eriti ulm kui selline version tehti... tegid.. aga vb see nii on ka
14 February 2018 15:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja muidugi jumala poolest, ma näen, et see osalt ka karistus sellepärast, et vist..
selle ühe pitsi võtsin, kuid see oli pigem selleks võetud, et endale ja mujale tõestada, et see ei tee füüsiliselt midagi ja ma ei karda, et ma kartuse ja paranoiapärast mitte ei võta.. viad sellepärast, et pole vaja.. kuid ehk ikka oli patt nii suur sellega seoses et..
selle ühe pitsi võtsin, kuid see oli pigem selleks võetud, et endale ja mujale tõestada, et see ei tee füüsiliselt midagi ja ma ei karda, et ma kartuse ja paranoiapärast mitte ei võta.. viad sellepärast, et pole vaja.. kuid ehk ikka oli patt nii suur sellega seoses et..
14 February 2018 15:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi eks miks see juhtus, ma ju pole sedasi ,et ma ise ei teaks... tean, ju et ütlesid, et soovid vaikust ja mõelda ja siis hoopis midagi muud vast oleksid öelnud.. mine tea.. kuid mul jäi arusaam, et kanalid lahti ja nagu jätkasin rääkimist, mis mu oma peas peaks olema abiks, ja kasuks..
kuigi oleks pidnaud kohe ütlema, lihtsalt peale seda kui ütlesid, et räägid hiljem pikemalt.. oleks pidanud lihtsalt tänama ja rahulikult ootama jääda.
Muidugi oleksin ka seda teinud kui seda mõistnud öelda keegi oleks... kuid alati uue ja värske südamena olles, rahulikud strateegilised ootamised ei toimi minule sedasi.. ma nii sooviks, et oleks mitmekihiline suhtlus, siis ma saaks täeisti vabalt sedasi suheld,a et ei häiriks, kus mu mõtted ja tunded, mis vist mõtetud küll siiani suht kõigile on tundunud enamuses lõppkokkuvõttes... sest ei näta mis nende sees, ees ja taga... et jah.. et need asjad eraldi kanalisse saaksin jutuaknas panna.. ja siis see aktiivne, praktiline ,tavavestlus mis vaja .selles saaks..
.. sest ku ieemal ola.. siis muudmoodi ma tundeid ja vajalikust ei oska ju varjata.. inimestega.. kõigiga.. mitte sinuga ainult, kõigiga kirjutan ju sedasi : ... et ma ise küll soovin.. et iniemsed sedasi suhtleks.. et mis neil peas ja meeltes, et selle välja räägivad.. ja see selgusele aitab jõuda ja arendeda mitmes muus asjas muud moodi.. see aitab enamuse elust ja päevas, ajast, olla mure ja mõtete vaba...
mul ringmõtted eriti palju ei piina sedasi ... nagu ma kuulnud, et paljudel
kuigi oleks pidnaud kohe ütlema, lihtsalt peale seda kui ütlesid, et räägid hiljem pikemalt.. oleks pidanud lihtsalt tänama ja rahulikult ootama jääda.
Muidugi oleksin ka seda teinud kui seda mõistnud öelda keegi oleks... kuid alati uue ja värske südamena olles, rahulikud strateegilised ootamised ei toimi minule sedasi.. ma nii sooviks, et oleks mitmekihiline suhtlus, siis ma saaks täeisti vabalt sedasi suheld,a et ei häiriks, kus mu mõtted ja tunded, mis vist mõtetud küll siiani suht kõigile on tundunud enamuses lõppkokkuvõttes... sest ei näta mis nende sees, ees ja taga... et jah.. et need asjad eraldi kanalisse saaksin jutuaknas panna.. ja siis see aktiivne, praktiline ,tavavestlus mis vaja .selles saaks..
.. sest ku ieemal ola.. siis muudmoodi ma tundeid ja vajalikust ei oska ju varjata.. inimestega.. kõigiga.. mitte sinuga ainult, kõigiga kirjutan ju sedasi : ... et ma ise küll soovin.. et iniemsed sedasi suhtleks.. et mis neil peas ja meeltes, et selle välja räägivad.. ja see selgusele aitab jõuda ja arendeda mitmes muus asjas muud moodi.. see aitab enamuse elust ja päevas, ajast, olla mure ja mõtete vaba...
mul ringmõtted eriti palju ei piina sedasi ... nagu ma kuulnud, et paljudel
14 February 2018 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Teine moodus, kuidas saaksid teada, kas see postitus oli avalik või mitte, on vaadata mu twitteri postitusi selle kuupäevaga, sest iga postitusega siin koheselt koopia ka twitterisse läheb ja kui twitterist kustuma peaks siis on twitteri kustutatud postituste teenused kust saab omakorda kontrollida.. kuigi peaks ju piisama MINU sõnast, sest ma ju peaaegu haiglaslikult aus inimene, see minu üks miinuseid, et kardaksin lausa rääkida nii kuidas tegelikult pole sest tean, et see pole hea, ega ilus, ega lubatud ega ei too head ka, nii või teisiti. Muidugi suurem osa ühsikonda arvab teisiti..
NU jah see teema selleks.. kuid nii ei ole ma üldse rahul, kui ivalest tülis jälle eemale..
NU jah see teema selleks.. kuid nii ei ole ma üldse rahul, kui ivalest tülis jälle eemale..
14 February 2018 15:25
Margus Meigo replied to Raiko Aeaero's comment.
ja ega päris kõik ka nähtav pole, on ka mitmeid asju mis ainult eri inimestega jagatud, mitmed mis privaatsed või vahest ainult sõbralistile, kuigi suureom osa jah, mul konto sisu ka muide avalik, sõnumid jms, kõikides oma kontodes, mitte siin ainult : )
Kunagi vb läheb seda olukorda vaja, et miks nii.. kuid seda miks ja kuidas, seda eks näeb kunagi tulevikus, kui tarvis ja sinnamaani jõuab
Kunagi vb läheb seda olukorda vaja, et miks nii.. kuid seda miks ja kuidas, seda eks näeb kunagi tulevikus, kui tarvis ja sinnamaani jõuab
14 February 2018 15:17
Margus Meigo replied to Raiko Aeaero's comment.
kuid siin kui kellegil tarvis, siis lihtsam post-postile kommenteerida kui tavablogis.
Mõttemärgetele siin endal praeguste muude vahenditega võrreldes lihtne lisamateriale komentaari kasti lisada, mille osas kunagi tegutseda vaja ja plaani.
See vähemasti koht mis niipea ehk ära ei kao, vanad igasugu märkmete kohad aga tulevad ja lähevad.
Muidu, hea tähelepanek muidu ja tänud ka! :)
Mõttemärgetele siin endal praeguste muude vahenditega võrreldes lihtne lisamateriale komentaari kasti lisada, mille osas kunagi tegutseda vaja ja plaani.
See vähemasti koht mis niipea ehk ära ei kao, vanad igasugu märkmete kohad aga tulevad ja lähevad.
Muidu, hea tähelepanek muidu ja tänud ka! :)
14 February 2018 15:15
Margus Meigo replied to Raiko Aeaero's comment.
nu blogid ongi ju enamasti avalikud
14 February 2018 15:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
paras oleks kinni panna taolised kohad, küll põhjuse leiab
14 February 2018 15:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kergendus, muidugi tegelikult ei tea ka, sest ega sisse ei jõudnud piiluda, kõigil oli sama sms lukk peal, eks kunagi vaatab veel korra üle ja kontrollib.
// tuleviku tööks, postpone
// tuleviku tööks, postpone
14 February 2018 13:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Uhh.. ikka vist võlts lehed õnneks,
vist pildid tõmmatud mujalt portaaldest ja siis juurde kirjutatud võlts Eestlaste nimed ja asukohad jõhvist kärdlani
vist pildid tõmmatud mujalt portaaldest ja siis juurde kirjutatud võlts Eestlaste nimed ja asukohad jõhvist kärdlani
14 February 2018 13:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei noo tõesti need nii ropud lehed, et ei hakka mainimagi, kuid mul endal prof. huvi kõikides eesti portaalides silm peal hoida, seega eks näis, mis üllatusi neis asub,
avastasin ka, et juba üle 10ne poraali vähemasti kadunud mis vanasti olid, .. muidugi jälle kurb, et investeeringuid pole olnud..mida kõike head nende algallikatega teha saanud oleks..
avastasin ka, et juba üle 10ne poraali vähemasti kadunud mis vanasti olid, .. muidugi jälle kurb, et investeeringuid pole olnud..mida kõike head nende algallikatega teha saanud oleks..
14 February 2018 13:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja see kena ja väärika naise profiilil, mis eriti hea, sest sinna palju inimesi vaatama satub.
Original :
"Когда-то очень давно на земле жили необыкновенные люди. У них было четыре руки, четыре ноги, две головы. Во всей Вселенной не было существа прекраснее и сильнее. Они могли сворачивать горы. Поскольку они становились всё сильнее и сильнее и уже не слушались Бога, он сильнейшем ударом молнии разделил человека на две половины. С тех пор так и ходят по земле одинокие мужчины и женщины и каждый пытается найти свою половинку. И те которым ето удаётся, сливаются воедино и обретают былую силу, гармонию и счастье.
...
Интим не ищу.
Не пиши мне если находишься в отношениях и тебе скучна.
Не пиши мне если главной твоей целю в жизни это найти девушку.
...
Многие люди ищут пару, пытаясь таким образом разрешить свои проблемы. Они наивно полагают, что любовные отношения вылечат их от скуки, тоски, отсутствия смыла в жизни. Они надеются, что партнёр заполнит собой пустоту их жизни. Какое грубое заблуждение! Когда мы выбираем себе пару, возлагая на неё подобные надежды, в конце концов, мы не можем избежать ненависти к человеку, не оправдавшему наши ожидания. А потом? Потом мы ищем следующего партнёра, а за ним другого, потом — ещё и ещё… Или решаем провести остаток жизни в одиночестве, жалуясь на жестокую судьбу. Чтобы этого избежать, следует разобраться с собственной жизнью, не ожидая, что кто-то сделает это за нас. /Хорхе Букай, Сильвия Салинас Любить с открытыми глазами.
Original :
"Когда-то очень давно на земле жили необыкновенные люди. У них было четыре руки, четыре ноги, две головы. Во всей Вселенной не было существа прекраснее и сильнее. Они могли сворачивать горы. Поскольку они становились всё сильнее и сильнее и уже не слушались Бога, он сильнейшем ударом молнии разделил человека на две половины. С тех пор так и ходят по земле одинокие мужчины и женщины и каждый пытается найти свою половинку. И те которым ето удаётся, сливаются воедино и обретают былую силу, гармонию и счастье.
...
Интим не ищу.
Не пиши мне если находишься в отношениях и тебе скучна.
Не пиши мне если главной твоей целю в жизни это найти девушку.
...
Многие люди ищут пару, пытаясь таким образом разрешить свои проблемы. Они наивно полагают, что любовные отношения вылечат их от скуки, тоски, отсутствия смыла в жизни. Они надеются, что партнёр заполнит собой пустоту их жизни. Какое грубое заблуждение! Когда мы выбираем себе пару, возлагая на неё подобные надежды, в конце концов, мы не можем избежать ненависти к человеку, не оправдавшему наши ожидания. А потом? Потом мы ищем следующего партнёра, а за ним другого, потом — ещё и ещё… Или решаем провести остаток жизни в одиночестве, жалуясь на жестокую судьбу. Чтобы этого избежать, следует разобраться с собственной жизнью, не ожидая, что кто-то сделает это за нас. /Хорхе Букай, Сильвия Салинас Любить с открытыми глазами.
14 February 2018 13:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid samas leidsin ka päris kenasi, inglitaolisi sonumeid profiilidelt, seda küll hoopis vene portaalilt, kus üllatavamalt viisakam ja elavam, see kõik.
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"Once upon a time, extraordinary people lived on earth. They had four hands, four legs, two heads. In the whole universe there was no being more beautiful and stronger. They could turn mountains. As they grew stronger and stronger and no longer obeyed God, he struck the man in two halves with a powerful lightning bolt. Since then, single men and women are walking about the land and everyone is trying to find their mate. And those who are able to do this, merge into one and acquire the former strength, harmony and happiness.
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Intimacy is not looking.
Do not write to me if you are in a relationship and you are bored.
Do not write to me if your main goal in life is to find a girl.
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Many people are looking for a couple, trying to solve their problems in this way. They naively believe that love relationships will cure them of boredom, anguish, a lack of emptiness in life. They hope that the partner will fill the void of their life. What a gross error! When we choose a couple, placing such hopes on it, in the end, we can not avoid hatred for a person who did not meet our expectations. And then? Then we are looking for the next partner, and for him another, then - again and again ... Or we decide to spend the rest of life alone, complaining about the cruel fate. To avoid this, you need to understand your own life, not expecting that someone will do it for us. / Jorge Bukai, Silvia Salinas To love with open eyes.
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Translated by comp:
"Once upon a time, extraordinary people lived on earth. They had four hands, four legs, two heads. In the whole universe there was no being more beautiful and stronger. They could turn mountains. As they grew stronger and stronger and no longer obeyed God, he struck the man in two halves with a powerful lightning bolt. Since then, single men and women are walking about the land and everyone is trying to find their mate. And those who are able to do this, merge into one and acquire the former strength, harmony and happiness.
...
Intimacy is not looking.
Do not write to me if you are in a relationship and you are bored.
Do not write to me if your main goal in life is to find a girl.
...
Many people are looking for a couple, trying to solve their problems in this way. They naively believe that love relationships will cure them of boredom, anguish, a lack of emptiness in life. They hope that the partner will fill the void of their life. What a gross error! When we choose a couple, placing such hopes on it, in the end, we can not avoid hatred for a person who did not meet our expectations. And then? Then we are looking for the next partner, and for him another, then - again and again ... Or we decide to spend the rest of life alone, complaining about the cruel fate. To avoid this, you need to understand your own life, not expecting that someone will do it for us. / Jorge Bukai, Silvia Salinas To love with open eyes.
14 February 2018 13:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Saab palju missionitööd teha nodes kohtades, niipalju võib öelda.
Mis pani hammelduma, et Eesti lehed, ja kontode arv on üle 100 000...ja sellised lehed ka veel.. isegi kui paljudel topelt kontod on tundub ikka päris veider. Ehk on võlts ja on ainult paartuhat profiili 10a peale kokku, jääb lootus
Mis pani hammelduma, et Eesti lehed, ja kontode arv on üle 100 000...ja sellised lehed ka veel.. isegi kui paljudel topelt kontod on tundub ikka päris veider. Ehk on võlts ja on ainult paartuhat profiili 10a peale kokku, jääb lootus
14 February 2018 13:25
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Nu tegu oli ka selles, et see " mees " muul ajal teeb asju üle näo ja muud pidi (teiste ebatervetega) kindla peale ja siis see juba ise ajab klombi kurku, lihtsalt äärmiselt solvav, mõnitav ja haiglane inimeste osas, sundida neilt toitu vastuvõtma taoliselt.
Eriti kui juba märkus tehti, meelega provokatsioon tehtud, nagu vanglas inimesi vähe oleks leida keda sinna toimkonda panna.
Muidugi eip tea, kas keegi ennast ise tööasemele pakkus aga...igaljuhul inetu lugu,
pidi ikka väga ebameeldiv tegelane olema, et mitukümmend pätti kes teavad, et nuuti saavad, olid valmis mässu tõstma
Eriti kui juba märkus tehti, meelega provokatsioon tehtud, nagu vanglas inimesi vähe oleks leida keda sinna toimkonda panna.
Muidugi eip tea, kas keegi ennast ise tööasemele pakkus aga...igaljuhul inetu lugu,
pidi ikka väga ebameeldiv tegelane olema, et mitukümmend pätti kes teavad, et nuuti saavad, olid valmis mässu tõstma
14 February 2018 11:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuhu me jõudnud oleme, kui ainukesi ülestõuse ebamoraalsuse vastu veel vanglamüüride vahelt kuulda on.
14 February 2018 11:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Kuna vangla administratsioon toon aga toidujagajat välja ei vahetanud, siis leppisid toidust loobunud kinnipeetavad omavahel kokku hakata üheaegselt kambrites aknaid lõhkuma. 23. juunil ehk võidupühal kella 22.55 paiku lõhkusid 18 kinnipeetavat Viru vanglas üheaegselt kokku kümnes kambris aknad, kasutades selleks vangla poolt väljastatud metallist lusikaid ja kruuse ning WC-poti loputuskasti kaane tükke.
Selle tulemusena tekkis oht vangla julgeolekule kuna korraga olid pooled osakonna kambritest elamiskõlbmatud ning lõhkumises osalenud kinnipeetavad varustatud nii ennast kui teisi vigastada võivate esemetega, seisab süüdistuses.
Süüdimõistmisel võib vange ees oodata rahaline karistus või kuni kolmeaastane lisavangistus.
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"Täna toimus eelistung kohtuasjas, kus kohtu all on 18 kinnipeetavat, keda süüdistatakse 2015. aasta võidupühal Viru vanglas mäsu korraldamises ja selles osalemises.
Süüdistuse kohaselt keeldusid mitmed Jõhvis asuva Viru vangla kinnipeetavad alates 2015. aasta 12. juunist neile jagatavast toidust, avaldamaks protesti vangla poolt toidujagajaks määratud kinnipeetava suhtes, ütles Viru ringkonnaprokuratuuri pressinõunik Jelena Filippova Delfile.
Muide, seda intsidenti kajastas toona ka meedia ning vangid rääkisid siis ERR-i venekeelsele uudisteportaalile, et toidujagajal oli nende arvates tõsiseid probleeme isikliku hügieeniga. Samuti häiris neid toidujagaja seksuaalne orientatsioon, mistõttu oli tema roll toidu jagamisel neile vastuvõetamatu."
// otse kohtuasjadega seoutud portaalide infokeskpunkt
// delfi nii reklaami täis, et keeldun seda linki siin jagamast
Selle tulemusena tekkis oht vangla julgeolekule kuna korraga olid pooled osakonna kambritest elamiskõlbmatud ning lõhkumises osalenud kinnipeetavad varustatud nii ennast kui teisi vigastada võivate esemetega, seisab süüdistuses.
Süüdimõistmisel võib vange ees oodata rahaline karistus või kuni kolmeaastane lisavangistus.
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"Täna toimus eelistung kohtuasjas, kus kohtu all on 18 kinnipeetavat, keda süüdistatakse 2015. aasta võidupühal Viru vanglas mäsu korraldamises ja selles osalemises.
Süüdistuse kohaselt keeldusid mitmed Jõhvis asuva Viru vangla kinnipeetavad alates 2015. aasta 12. juunist neile jagatavast toidust, avaldamaks protesti vangla poolt toidujagajaks määratud kinnipeetava suhtes, ütles Viru ringkonnaprokuratuuri pressinõunik Jelena Filippova Delfile.
Muide, seda intsidenti kajastas toona ka meedia ning vangid rääkisid siis ERR-i venekeelsele uudisteportaalile, et toidujagajal oli nende arvates tõsiseid probleeme isikliku hügieeniga. Samuti häiris neid toidujagaja seksuaalne orientatsioon, mistõttu oli tema roll toidu jagamisel neile vastuvõetamatu."
// otse kohtuasjadega seoutud portaalide infokeskpunkt
// delfi nii reklaami täis, et keeldun seda linki siin jagamast
13 February 2018 08:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja tillukene eestis:
https://www.postimees.ee/3576221/viru-vanglas-puhkes-evakueerimise-kaigus-mass
https://www.postimees.ee/3576221/viru-vanglas-puhkes-evakueerimise-kaigus-mass
https://www.postimees.ee/3576221/viru-vanglas-puhkes-evakueerimise-kaigus-mass
13 February 2018 08:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://dea.digar.ee/cgi-bin/dea?a=d&d=uuseesti19370424.2.46
13 February 2018 08:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.postimees.ee/1505143/korgostani-vangide-mass-muutus-veriseks
https://www.postimees.ee/1505143/korgostani-vangide-mass-muutus-veriseks
13 February 2018 08:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mässe mujal:
https://www.postimees.ee/2537263/tana-televisioonis-vangide-mass
https://www.postimees.ee/2537263/tana-televisioonis-vangide-mass
https://www.postimees.ee/2537263/tana-televisioonis-vangide-mass
13 February 2018 08:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muidu jah,.aga päris elus just niii ongi...et on nii suur armastus olemas, et selle nimel... oled valmis armastusest loobuma..
12 February 2018 21:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kahju, et meil pole inimeis, olukordasi ymber, et saaksime teada, kuidas tegelt on..kes ytleks ja näeks vaimu ja muid asju...
nujahh...
sest praegu pole olukordagi ju, et teada saaksime.
nujahh...
sest praegu pole olukordagi ju, et teada saaksime.
12 February 2018 21:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et siis kasutada saa dsda kõike materiali, kui see alles.. kui väärid siis salvestad siis saad seda kasutada...
12 February 2018 21:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siis soovitan mu naisega ühendust võtta ja mu perega..ja vaata kas siis julgeksid neid veenda ja selgitada, miks me peaksime koos olema...
kui see tulevik sinnamaani satub...
võimalusi on ju palju....Su Emagi sai Su Isaga kokku ju uuesti 50ndates?
kui see tulevik sinnamaani satub...
võimalusi on ju palju....Su Emagi sai Su Isaga kokku ju uuesti 50ndates?
12 February 2018 21:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jah kuid jään ikkagi uskuma,et siis kui mõistu speas või süda kohal siis annad teada..
..kuid arvetsades meie õnne...mismoodi maialma suurima dkuremad jõud emie liitu maailma suurima parimamliidu eemaldmaiseks oid aproovivad..ju sleleks ajaks siis juba kasvõi läb iha mu meeled eemaldartud või mälud ja olukorrad..nii e tilma lohkumata midagi ei saaks tetud..
..kuid arvetsades meie õnne...mismoodi maialma suurima dkuremad jõud emie liitu maailma suurima parimamliidu eemaldmaiseks oid aproovivad..ju sleleks ajaks siis juba kasvõi läb iha mu meeled eemaldartud või mälud ja olukorrad..nii e tilma lohkumata midagi ei saaks tetud..
12 February 2018 21:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja sama spole ka
12 February 2018 21:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lihtsalt see nii urr
12 February 2018 21:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see pole ju tavalistmoodi võimalik, et niiisama saaks inimene unustada, nii olulist ,eriti arvetsades, kui oluline see sellele ajal oli...
ja tead seda arvestades... on tegelikult ilo Sul sohimees ja ...nu kui me sõrmuse enne sõrme saime ja kui tema mitte päris aus ausklikuna kirikus teesklesneid asju, mis tegevusest näha oli,et ei saanud tõsi olla...mida jumalaeeslubas eks..siis eksis ikka ju rängalt..
ja seda ei räägi mittemingi muuasja jaoks, kui ,et enne kui mind om apea suvalisek stuttavaks pead, kes...siis ..see ilmselgelt sedasi ju pole,
oma viimast kirj alugedes said ju isegi aru eks....
huvitav...kas ma vist isegi tegin selle rituaali et kolvili andisn selle sõrmus evõi oli se... vot see veel vaja meelde tuletada...jupilisel tõrnalt mul säilinud suts ainutl...su vennaga mängisin, kosmust tegime vist sõbraliult jms..
lihsalt,see,et sa eip arva, et kui see on tõsi..et see ilmselgelt vääääääääääga imelik oleks..see on juba imelik..
ja tead seda arvestades... on tegelikult ilo Sul sohimees ja ...nu kui me sõrmuse enne sõrme saime ja kui tema mitte päris aus ausklikuna kirikus teesklesneid asju, mis tegevusest näha oli,et ei saanud tõsi olla...mida jumalaeeslubas eks..siis eksis ikka ju rängalt..
ja seda ei räägi mittemingi muuasja jaoks, kui ,et enne kui mind om apea suvalisek stuttavaks pead, kes...siis ..see ilmselgelt sedasi ju pole,
oma viimast kirj alugedes said ju isegi aru eks....
huvitav...kas ma vist isegi tegin selle rituaali et kolvili andisn selle sõrmus evõi oli se... vot see veel vaja meelde tuletada...jupilisel tõrnalt mul säilinud suts ainutl...su vennaga mängisin, kosmust tegime vist sõbraliult jms..
lihsalt,see,et sa eip arva, et kui see on tõsi..et see ilmselgelt vääääääääääga imelik oleks..see on juba imelik..
12 February 2018 21:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja see päris suur kustutus peab olema, kui kihlasõrmus sõrmes unstatakse esimeselt armastuselt omas lapsepõlvekodus..,et anti...
dussi all kotasid vist veel...
kuid jah, palun vabandust, kui se eikkagi piinamisena tundub,
ma peaaegu olek shakanud kirjutama uuesti Su fb postkasti kuid ...suutsin teksti sellest välja lõigata ja sii apanna..
dussi all kotasid vist veel...
kuid jah, palun vabandust, kui se eikkagi piinamisena tundub,
ma peaaegu olek shakanud kirjutama uuesti Su fb postkasti kuid ...suutsin teksti sellest välja lõigata ja sii apanna..
12 February 2018 21:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
äraseda rahaasja solvu,see lihtsalt ka üks tõsi ju...
kui ma ikka kopterite ja limusiinidega rahulilul tuleks, lapsele tip plaanid planeeriks ja annaks kõik ilma nõudmata Sult midagi..ainult pakkudes, mõne vestlusegi nimel kus oleks alle svõimalik slegitada, miks kunagi vb sul tasuks mõelda.. jamis võimalusi on...ja tead ju küll minumoodi armastus selline...et ennast alandlikult tahaplaanile asutuses tõmban kui kellegil midagi.. ja ma ei hakkaks undama, et palju ma "investeerisin"
see oleks veider...
aga lihtsalt mul reaalselt pole isegi sed aplatformi, et Sul aasta paaar ette tööajad kinnimaksta,et oleks võimalus aega leida, Sul rääkimiseks.
tead ju küll, minusugus emõtlemis ejures see lelentnaarne oleks ,
muidugi juhul siis, kui pole kedagi kellega austusest olema pean, seni kuni on hea ja kuni ta oskab veenda, et nii on.
aga kuida snii...et just seda moodi...uuuurh!
ma muidugi ei arvestanud ka... et päevaasjad ju enam olla ei saanud eks...
kui kirjutasin liialt,olek solnu dpiisav mul öelda: margu skirjuta korraga text documetidesse/bloggisee ja saada kord paar nädalas, või muu aja tagant..
või kohas kus isevaatad..kuid kohe selliselt...ja tulnukaprogrammist millest kuulda ei taha...või mis see asi on..mis arulagedaks kutsusid..aa see mälu asi...
ütles tüdruk...kes sõrmusegi...meelest lasknud..
kui ma ikka kopterite ja limusiinidega rahulilul tuleks, lapsele tip plaanid planeeriks ja annaks kõik ilma nõudmata Sult midagi..ainult pakkudes, mõne vestlusegi nimel kus oleks alle svõimalik slegitada, miks kunagi vb sul tasuks mõelda.. jamis võimalusi on...ja tead ju küll minumoodi armastus selline...et ennast alandlikult tahaplaanile asutuses tõmban kui kellegil midagi.. ja ma ei hakkaks undama, et palju ma "investeerisin"
see oleks veider...
aga lihtsalt mul reaalselt pole isegi sed aplatformi, et Sul aasta paaar ette tööajad kinnimaksta,et oleks võimalus aega leida, Sul rääkimiseks.
tead ju küll, minusugus emõtlemis ejures see lelentnaarne oleks ,
muidugi juhul siis, kui pole kedagi kellega austusest olema pean, seni kuni on hea ja kuni ta oskab veenda, et nii on.
aga kuida snii...et just seda moodi...uuuurh!
ma muidugi ei arvestanud ka... et päevaasjad ju enam olla ei saanud eks...
kui kirjutasin liialt,olek solnu dpiisav mul öelda: margu skirjuta korraga text documetidesse/bloggisee ja saada kord paar nädalas, või muu aja tagant..
või kohas kus isevaatad..kuid kohe selliselt...ja tulnukaprogrammist millest kuulda ei taha...või mis see asi on..mis arulagedaks kutsusid..aa see mälu asi...
ütles tüdruk...kes sõrmusegi...meelest lasknud..
12 February 2018 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Miks ikkagi eemaldasid selliselt, see, et Sina eksisid sellesmõistmises mis ma tegin ja samal ajal, et veel eksimus juhutus, ..ma ei näe, et oleks õigus sedasi solvuda,
ma sain aru, et Sa vabamas usaldavamas olekus ja annad enne teada kui solvud...
Nu ideaalis mina teeks küll päris kindlaks enne kui otsustan päriselt solvuda uue arusaamaga,.
õhtepidi paned mind muretsema ülearu, et Sul liiga tegin (nu see mis Sa arvasid, et oli, nägid ju, et see ainult kahele inimesele nähtav.... see, et Su seinal tekkis ei tähenda, et teised näevad kui privaatsus valitud. )
ses osas, ma ise usun küll, et tegin kõik hästi ja nii kuidas Sul parem on, isegi mainisin, et proovin leida, ennast sundida otsima teisi...sammsammult rahuliku eemaleminekuni...ja just enne, kust oleks saanud kuhuiganes suuunas liikuda kuid eelkõige oli plaan, just seda hoida, et Selliselt ei juhtuks, kus solvumis epärast ei rääägi..lootsin,et sellel maal, usaldus, kus rahulikult ütleksid mulle, selgitaksid paaris kolmes vestluses, et "margus, peame vahet, ärme vahepeal kirjuta ja kuidas ausalt ennast paremini tunneksin , puhkame sus, säuky, kui miskit on siis kirjuta siia kust kunagi vb loen"
...aga nüüd käitusid sedasi nagu Sul emotsioonid ja tunde doleksid või...
nu kui on emotsioonid, tunded, siis muidugi vale, et ma proovisin, Su meeltel eheameelt tuua ja kergedada, õrnalt, et see,et proovin sundida ennast muu naise suunas...
selle postitus emote ka nii palju head ja võimalusi oli mumeelest, et jätaks Sul kõik otsad lahti ja saaksin usaldada sind et selles , kuhu suuunas soovitad minna, mul ei saa ju olla kedagi teist kellelt seda suunda küsida ja kellega koos müelda..
teisipidi sedasi tormates järsku..lisaks muule ... paneb mind kuidagi lukku kus katkisrna ei s....aah seda ka ei saa öelda...siis jääb mulje nagu emotsionaalselt pressiks,
kuid suuresplaanis see ei lase ei edasi ega teistepoole minna,,,
vaat vast tead suts nis ADD taoline ..OCD on... vot ja mul see mitutpidi, mõtetes ja tunnetes, et peab õigesti ja hästi olema..usutavalt.
Kuid sellised lopud panevad mind ringi ja piinadesse mu niigi eluperioodis kus kriitiline edasi saada, välja saada...
ja isiksuse muutuse saan ka tehnoloogiale ligipääsedes suht lihtsasti teha..iseasi aga kas Sa seda siin/siis tunneksid.
tagatipuks ikka korduv ketas pea snüüd, et see kõik nagunii, lõppud elopuks on Ainult raha pärast...ja jällegi..mis na nendele häältele teha saan...eks nad igast nõua annavad..ja tõsi oleks, et kui oleksin miljonär vähemaltki, siis minu fantaasia juures, Sul hoopis muud olemised ja vestlused ja olukorrad oleks ja see ilmselge, et kuioleks raha, siis me olek skoos (kasvõi heade sõprade-töökaaslastena, elaksid ikkanii nagu ise tahad...aga see tähendab, et siis OLEKS Sul võimalus elada nii nagu ise tahad....sa tead, nii on ju tõsi ka.... ), seega rahapärast ei ole koos,
see mõte muidugi alles nüüd pooltundi tagasi tuli sedasi...
ja sii soleks ka loogiline, et kui pole tolku ja kasu , et mis siis suhelda.
mitte, et see emotsionaalselt ja meeldimise kohapealt esikohal oleks...kuid sellepärast aasia kultuuides vahest ongi nii, et pannakse praktilisus ja vajadus eisplaanile viisaga ja lastakse tunnetel hiljem järgitulla..
ja ma ei saa liialt vabandust ka paluda kuna see jätaks ebaõige kõla, nagu ma meelega eksinud oleks
ma sain aru, et Sa vabamas usaldavamas olekus ja annad enne teada kui solvud...
Nu ideaalis mina teeks küll päris kindlaks enne kui otsustan päriselt solvuda uue arusaamaga,.
õhtepidi paned mind muretsema ülearu, et Sul liiga tegin (nu see mis Sa arvasid, et oli, nägid ju, et see ainult kahele inimesele nähtav.... see, et Su seinal tekkis ei tähenda, et teised näevad kui privaatsus valitud. )
ses osas, ma ise usun küll, et tegin kõik hästi ja nii kuidas Sul parem on, isegi mainisin, et proovin leida, ennast sundida otsima teisi...sammsammult rahuliku eemaleminekuni...ja just enne, kust oleks saanud kuhuiganes suuunas liikuda kuid eelkõige oli plaan, just seda hoida, et Selliselt ei juhtuks, kus solvumis epärast ei rääägi..lootsin,et sellel maal, usaldus, kus rahulikult ütleksid mulle, selgitaksid paaris kolmes vestluses, et "margus, peame vahet, ärme vahepeal kirjuta ja kuidas ausalt ennast paremini tunneksin , puhkame sus, säuky, kui miskit on siis kirjuta siia kust kunagi vb loen"
...aga nüüd käitusid sedasi nagu Sul emotsioonid ja tunde doleksid või...
nu kui on emotsioonid, tunded, siis muidugi vale, et ma proovisin, Su meeltel eheameelt tuua ja kergedada, õrnalt, et see,et proovin sundida ennast muu naise suunas...
selle postitus emote ka nii palju head ja võimalusi oli mumeelest, et jätaks Sul kõik otsad lahti ja saaksin usaldada sind et selles , kuhu suuunas soovitad minna, mul ei saa ju olla kedagi teist kellelt seda suunda küsida ja kellega koos müelda..
teisipidi sedasi tormates järsku..lisaks muule ... paneb mind kuidagi lukku kus katkisrna ei s....aah seda ka ei saa öelda...siis jääb mulje nagu emotsionaalselt pressiks,
kuid suuresplaanis see ei lase ei edasi ega teistepoole minna,,,
vaat vast tead suts nis ADD taoline ..OCD on... vot ja mul see mitutpidi, mõtetes ja tunnetes, et peab õigesti ja hästi olema..usutavalt.
Kuid sellised lopud panevad mind ringi ja piinadesse mu niigi eluperioodis kus kriitiline edasi saada, välja saada...
ja isiksuse muutuse saan ka tehnoloogiale ligipääsedes suht lihtsasti teha..iseasi aga kas Sa seda siin/siis tunneksid.
tagatipuks ikka korduv ketas pea snüüd, et see kõik nagunii, lõppud elopuks on Ainult raha pärast...ja jällegi..mis na nendele häältele teha saan...eks nad igast nõua annavad..ja tõsi oleks, et kui oleksin miljonär vähemaltki, siis minu fantaasia juures, Sul hoopis muud olemised ja vestlused ja olukorrad oleks ja see ilmselge, et kuioleks raha, siis me olek skoos (kasvõi heade sõprade-töökaaslastena, elaksid ikkanii nagu ise tahad...aga see tähendab, et siis OLEKS Sul võimalus elada nii nagu ise tahad....sa tead, nii on ju tõsi ka.... ), seega rahapärast ei ole koos,
see mõte muidugi alles nüüd pooltundi tagasi tuli sedasi...
ja sii soleks ka loogiline, et kui pole tolku ja kasu , et mis siis suhelda.
mitte, et see emotsionaalselt ja meeldimise kohapealt esikohal oleks...kuid sellepärast aasia kultuuides vahest ongi nii, et pannakse praktilisus ja vajadus eisplaanile viisaga ja lastakse tunnetel hiljem järgitulla..
ja ma ei saa liialt vabandust ka paluda kuna see jätaks ebaõige kõla, nagu ma meelega eksinud oleks
12 February 2018 20:59
Margus Meigo commented on Ahto Lääts's post.
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Väga vahva!
Alguses ma vaatasin, naeratusest, et Kersti Kaljulaid
Nu oleks ka tore, kuid nii ka on.
Muidu, Kas see maja sümboolne?12 February 2018 19:58
Margus Meigo replied to Mel Metsakutsa's comment.
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Ahto Lääts Nimi siis ? : )12 February 2018 19:57
Margus Meigo replied to Jaak Lepik's comment.
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kuigi, pärast veel täname, et niigi kergelt likvideerimisest pääsesime,
kui nee dplaanid õiged on...et na dproovnud tõestusmateriali Eestlaste arulageduse ja muu väära kohta koguda, et likvideerimisel jääks enamustele järg, et mõned asjalikud vast olid kuid üldjuhul lihtsalt /.../
Rootsis-Norras juba jutt, et Keskmise Eestlase IQ sakslaste dokumentides oli samm üle 85 keskmiselt, 75'te ka oli...
eks neid lugusi meelega kogutaks,e videosi naaiivsetest videodest kus joodikud, naiivsed, upsakad,lihtsameelsed,kopeeriad või muidu sisutühjad oleme lasteeas või täsikasvanuna...
kus meelega meile vale toitu või valeuudiseid antakse..ja siis registreeritakse, et enamuses kogu riik polnu dteadvusel ega teinud midagi.. loeti soravalt ette uudised või täideti käsud...jms
samas kaardistavad kõik targa mis seotud ja kui Suure Evendi, kauaoodatud ülestõusu tevad, sekord täpsemini likiveerides ja keerates üksteise vastu parema strateegia ja plaani järgi..
siis võib siin kasvõi ühel pimedal talve ööl juhtuda palju..
...riigipeadel ka meeles hoidma peksime, millise dreaal ohud ja võimlaused..ja millised me plaanid igasuguste strateegiate hoidmiseks... ja mida häbilugu kui siiani teinud pole, sedasi, et suuremosa eestlasi saaks rahulikult tunda ennast...
täis arhiivide koopiad mitemel maal ja muud uudised ja material...
sellele täehndus kihtide ja tõlgete loomine...selgitused...selgindavaks välja võsapetsi saateid mis veel osati head vs päris suuri sigadusi ja õnnetusi naiivsusest.
Iga hea asja jaoks oma lugu meil olema peaks, kui sellist taset hoid asoovime,et ei tulda ründama, kui pealejoostes neil oht, et pudlikaela otsa jooksevad12 February 2018 19:45
Margus Meigo replied to Jaak Lepik's comment.
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Ma hääletaks Päris eesti tekitamise eest, et sii sülds eoleks tal võimalus olla, sellisena nagu plaanis12 February 2018 19:37
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Toomas Sirge jumalavastane suures plaanis, tipsport pigem praegusena?
12 February 2018 18:36
Margus Meigo replied to Eve Vihtol's comment.
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Viljanids kaks klutti ükskord tatistasid, käed dresside taskus,
kultuuri muusika aida ees,
nu peaaegu haarasin lokaatoritest neil kui ütlesid nad mulle, mu küsimuse peale, et nad ei pea keelt rääkima, sest see tõesõnu on Venemaa kus nad on (siin)
muidugi oleks pidanud õige Eestlasena lastele ekspertiisi kutsuma ja vanematele ka...et mis meelsust ja ajupuudulikust kodus lubatakse ja kas nad turistid, et nad veel ei tea..12 February 2018 18:33
Margus Meigo replied to Eve Vihtol's comment.
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ja siis ei saa keelduda ka külaliste lapsed
mi smõttes...teised oskavad 3 me keelt, ja nemad ühte?Mi s õigusega...kas nad..arengult muud?...ei nende vanemad ise, et poleks häbi....aiatvad õppida.
Ma jehoovakatele ka, kes me riiki varemgi aidnaud ja nüüd venkudest seepärast kubiseb ja lipsu agentidest...soovitasin, et nad keelekohvikuga oma raamatujagamise platformid ühendama peaks,12 February 2018 18:29
Margus Meigo replied to Eve Vihtol's comment.
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või mõni muu Me riigivanarahva keel, aju mitmekesiseks juba varakult, natukenegi, on tuus plaan.
Muidugi sisekutluuri, ajalugi,arusaame japalju muud ka...mitte niisama robotliku tuupmist pole vaja, see ikka privileeg kes opib kes ei, see peale tavaegu mingu mujale... vb opib siis miskit muud..kuid Eestkeel on ikka kohustuslik kui just Väga eri annete või suure puuudega laps ole, siis armastusest las olla.
Upsakus ja kasvatamatuse aga peab kõvasti välja kasvatama12 February 2018 18:27
Margus Meigo replied to Eve Vihtol's comment.
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nu tuus, soome, eesti ja siis vene oma ka,
ing keel nagunii tuleb hiljem ise peale12 February 2018 18:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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see viimane üks väheseid mis pole debiiliseerimise viktoriini saade vist
(kus plaaniks ainult mälu ja punktid, ilma suurem amuu aegendata)12 February 2018 18:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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ja headest raamatutest koopiaid teha kuni veel saab, eriti ka digitaale, üle maa eri sevreritesse salvestada, mitmekesiseid..sest koos eri instruktsioonide j aoüetustega mis nend esees kirielkdatakse..kellele ja miks...
jah..eeestlane igas sadamas12 February 2018 18:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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selleks järjepidevalt häid lahendusi ja käske andma peame ju nii paljudesse kohtadesse targalt, koopiaid ka maha ja jagada ja koguda12 February 2018 18:22
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Kukk's post.
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Asoo, vaat kus kommunisti, vingerdab oma sirbilehtedel ja muretseb meie rahvusriigi naispresidendi osas,sest see hammaste vahel, et seda nad murda ei suutnud, olime ette planeerinud ja hopsti napsati positsioon.
Luure värk ikkagi, mitte naljategijad, kuid olgugi, et alatute suurrelvadega tehi eesistujatega mis tehti, kuid...
ikkagi, kas uueduudised ise punaseks hakanud, unustades, et Sirp on KÕIGE sügavamate joontega punaste leht ja kultuuri reguleeria vana eliidi omatud, ja hoitud just selleks, et teatud kontingendi ajusi vajalikult eliidilt penelt keerata...
Arvata, et Sirp pole kommunistlik oleks sama kui eeldada, et Müürilehe ja vabamüürlaste ideaalplaanide side on juhuslik.
Tuleb vaadata mida nad sünnitavad.
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Kui hästi suurelt, õiges koguses mõelda ja arvestada, siis ilma kontekstitagi, isegi, need laused täiesti solidaarsed.
Küsimus on mitte selles ianult, mida ta veel ütleb, et meid veel alle shoitaks Globaalse plaaniate järgi...sest need kes plaanivad, saavad ülemaailma organiseerida sedasi, et meiesugune maa kustutatakse üleöö otsusega ja see väikev vajalikuks sekelduseks mis iganes moodi pannakse, rohkemmahavaikitult kui estonia lugu globaalselt, kosmose ajastu tuleviku inimkonna plaanide osas, ... kus isegi hiina kosmose programmil folkloori nimed kosmoseprojektides... sellistel aegadel.. arvestatakse solidaarselt..et enamuse säilitamseks... on hea kui osa kaob kes nagu ora ja ei soovi lasta ennast läbisegi panna vastavalt oludele..nagu inimliigi testi nad omaarust teevad tulnukai desindades ja ise seda uskudes...ja siis me riigieesotsas veel pisvaalt tarad peavad olema, et meid piisavalt küpseda lasta, aega anda, et Eestlased oma kätega kogu ilma enne korda teeks, kui ilm meid ...12 February 2018 18:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja ilma nende aineteta ma omapeaga ei motle välja kumabii on õigem ,ilma naiseta rikkus luua enne või saaba inultniasegariikus tluua mis kurjaks eimuutu...
ja kua ainult riskin alati lopni olla naise poolt, ta jumala pool , isegi kui koige hullemasse seisu pannud ja sattunud.. et koos vabaks saama poovime seest mis edasitungib ja igasttaastujaad lopuks... osasi vb vee märkavad kasvatada hoida moneks ajaks..
ja kua ainult riskin alati lopni olla naise poolt, ta jumala pool , isegi kui koige hullemasse seisu pannud ja sattunud.. et koos vabaks saama poovime seest mis edasitungib ja igasttaastujaad lopuks... osasi vb vee märkavad kasvatada hoida moneks ajaks..
12 February 2018 16:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu jah..tegelt aegjalt muidug võin sin nimemainida
12 February 2018 16:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja ma ei saanutki teada, on see siis lubatud teisele näitamiseks või mitte...seda mis ma siin rääkinud,
niipalju võiks ikk alahkudes viiasusest öelda..
see nagu toast välj ajooksmine ja oukse lahtijätmine...või hogalahti ja siis lailailahti jätmine...
kuid eks ma siis pea..ja tea, et see mulle väga suuretõenäosusea saab olla vb veelgi ohtlikum kui eelmine kord varemvõihiljem,tegelt alati iga sammuga ju läinud hullemaks eks...vist..selles osas mis saan ja mis vastu kannatama pean ja mida saan..viimanekord klopsudes vesi oli ja meeletu isiksuse simis enda valeks tembeldmaise kannatasin sellenimel ,et proovida ärakannatada rünnakuid jaküikeet proovida päästa ja austada...see kellele andisd jah sydame..ega temal sl nagunii oleks vaja see süda tagasi ka kysida...kuigi ta seda alguses pussitas, ei imestaks,kui killu endalepantvangi jättis...
niipalju võiks ikk alahkudes viiasusest öelda..
see nagu toast välj ajooksmine ja oukse lahtijätmine...või hogalahti ja siis lailailahti jätmine...
kuid eks ma siis pea..ja tea, et see mulle väga suuretõenäosusea saab olla vb veelgi ohtlikum kui eelmine kord varemvõihiljem,tegelt alati iga sammuga ju läinud hullemaks eks...vist..selles osas mis saan ja mis vastu kannatama pean ja mida saan..viimanekord klopsudes vesi oli ja meeletu isiksuse simis enda valeks tembeldmaise kannatasin sellenimel ,et proovida ärakannatada rünnakuid jaküikeet proovida päästa ja austada...see kellele andisd jah sydame..ega temal sl nagunii oleks vaja see süda tagasi ka kysida...kuigi ta seda alguses pussitas, ei imestaks,kui killu endalepantvangi jättis...
12 February 2018 16:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nii, alustan siit uut vestlus, ignoren, et Sa lisaks ignoorile üldse ...aa nu jah, see elektroonika,saad ju ühenupuvajuusega millaliganes..mis paanitsen...kunagi loeb see kes loeb, seni kuni see siin või kus iganes,loetav
12 February 2018 16:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nuüüd ma fallow nuppugi ei juge vajutada.
Igatahes see väga kurvaks tegi.see nii suur saavutus oi, mitte,et virtuaalõhendus..oleks sellise tähendusega et ma solviks kui päris elus hästi on..ga et..see ainuke niit mis meil veel oli...
st mmul oli teamdises, et oeh..kuidas on nii et see on nii arulage,et mu eest põgened.,sest sul pol epohjust, ka sinuga lähedaseim olles oleks sul ikka parem ja rohkem vabadust, kergemja pareim
Igatahes see väga kurvaks tegi.see nii suur saavutus oi, mitte,et virtuaalõhendus..oleks sellise tähendusega et ma solviks kui päris elus hästi on..ga et..see ainuke niit mis meil veel oli...
st mmul oli teamdises, et oeh..kuidas on nii et see on nii arulage,et mu eest põgened.,sest sul pol epohjust, ka sinuga lähedaseim olles oleks sul ikka parem ja rohkem vabadust, kergemja pareim
12 February 2018 16:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aas elge, nüüd solvusin uesti, nägin et sa ise veelgi meelega ikka eemale tõbud ja lülitasid võimalusi veelgi..kuidas ma süüdistamata saaks..
Nu jah, kurb ikka
ma siis kirjutan postituse järgmisesse lõiku mite siia ..muidu saad veel teavituse ka ja blokeerid üldse ..
niah..miks ma seda kohe ei arvetsanud kui ytlesid..et tahadhakata tuunetest rääkima...oleks pidnau dtedma..et nadsiistäeiga ryndavad...
oeksin pidnau dmidagi väga targalt ütlema ainult seda...seda mida planisinöelda.et kui sul oli plaan miagi olulist...öelda..siis ma kohe, mis iganes se on...reaallelus kohale oleks pidnau dtulema ja oleks sanau dseda kuuld..sest täpselt selline võimalus mul oli, siiani on...
..eiel jus tvaataisn..et aa et kontakis..et ma parem siis ..paustian ja rohkem sonumisse ei kirjuta eks...
et alles jääks seegi mis on jassiaeemale..ja näe...ika..kaselelst polnud ..urrh..iga oigeasi ikka nii ja nii ja ni..
Nu jah, kurb ikka
ma siis kirjutan postituse järgmisesse lõiku mite siia ..muidu saad veel teavituse ka ja blokeerid üldse ..
niah..miks ma seda kohe ei arvetsanud kui ytlesid..et tahadhakata tuunetest rääkima...oleks pidnau dtedma..et nadsiistäeiga ryndavad...
oeksin pidnau dmidagi väga targalt ütlema ainult seda...seda mida planisinöelda.et kui sul oli plaan miagi olulist...öelda..siis ma kohe, mis iganes se on...reaallelus kohale oleks pidnau dtulema ja oleks sanau dseda kuuld..sest täpselt selline võimalus mul oli, siiani on...
..eiel jus tvaataisn..et aa et kontakis..et ma parem siis ..paustian ja rohkem sonumisse ei kirjuta eks...
et alles jääks seegi mis on jassiaeemale..ja näe...ika..kaselelst polnud ..urrh..iga oigeasi ikka nii ja nii ja ni..
12 February 2018 16:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Oi nu siin vahepeale vahele tuli,
kuig, miks ma peaks tundma veidralt kui mulle vahele tuleb misit..sest muidu ju nagunii enamusest rohkem aega ja moodi jäädvustanud selgitust,
kuigi tunnen alati nirult ikka kui ei saa lõpuni räägitud
//vahepeal selgeks velgi enam saanud mis mooi se kurjusemaailm siin senikau akui inimesed sedasi haiguses alkohlis..et nad poodides kättesaadavaks teevad alkohli....see praegu vaatan is moodi päevast päeva nad proovivad mittte aga eisa..ika läheva duesti votma..sest valisus sellsiesse olkorda pnnaqud kus nad läheks..lihtsalt saaksi dnad nii teha..et rahaasemel saab toidu..ja tasuta enamus lopuks ei annaks neile alot olgugi et alguses võib ju prooida ... kuid nad nagu tavad, et inimesed ennast topaks ja ise selle eest tööt teeks ja kinni akaksaks iseeneast seda suure splaanis tegma rakendatud..
kuig, miks ma peaks tundma veidralt kui mulle vahele tuleb misit..sest muidu ju nagunii enamusest rohkem aega ja moodi jäädvustanud selgitust,
kuigi tunnen alati nirult ikka kui ei saa lõpuni räägitud
//vahepeal selgeks velgi enam saanud mis mooi se kurjusemaailm siin senikau akui inimesed sedasi haiguses alkohlis..et nad poodides kättesaadavaks teevad alkohli....see praegu vaatan is moodi päevast päeva nad proovivad mittte aga eisa..ika läheva duesti votma..sest valisus sellsiesse olkorda pnnaqud kus nad läheks..lihtsalt saaksi dnad nii teha..et rahaasemel saab toidu..ja tasuta enamus lopuks ei annaks neile alot olgugi et alguses võib ju prooida ... kuid nad nagu tavad, et inimesed ennast topaks ja ise selle eest tööt teeks ja kinni akaksaks iseeneast seda suure splaanis tegma rakendatud..
12 February 2018 16:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
õnneks voi kahjuks olen selline ka, kes alkoski ei tee asju rohkem kui muidu, mis mu väätused paigas on need jäävad samad.. ja isegi kui järeleandev alistuv, teist usaldav rohkem ()sest(),
siis väärtused ikka samad,
oi kui palju enese miinuseid ja asju mida oleksin pidanud paremini tegema elus...
nu ja eks seepärast "kiilakatele" psüphedeeliad ja muud rohelised ained ei meeldi,meeldetuletada,ja kui arusaanud siis kohustus ju ka edasi õigemni teha ja arvesse võtta...
(ma ise sisemuses motlen,lopetuseks, et selle mustamaagi kelega koos olin, vb ka ylikorge topelt näitleja ja hoopis hea nagu ta tundis, tundus, vabana, kuid vb ikk avangistuses või koguni minigid muud varjandid...uuuhnnnäitavad seda leitutat teatrilist suusatajate hypnoosi jurtsi kus ette pleerisid kukumise vist selleks, et keegi ei jugeks kahtlema hakata...kuid jah...cooop....silt tuli kohe ekraanile!)
Okey, ma ühekorra "tägin" Su siia aint, siis jätkan uuest threadist...kuid siis signaal ikkagi, sest pole viisakas ainult siis lasta teisel valesti teha kui ta eksimust tegid nagu nime eemaldamine
//peaaegu oli nagu Su süüdistus,kuid loe edasi,kuidas selgitan kuidas arusaan oma puudujäägist kuid ehkikka tõusvasjoones oma õigeskäitumises, kisiganes suunas see on: Kui ma räägin õigest suunas või hästi olmeisest, siis ma selle all alati enamasti ei mõtle praegu rääkides, meist vaid olukorrast mis üldse võimaldaks meid.
ahjaa,see selgitus siis:
(kuig KA selles osas teoreetiliselt Sul õigus, sest see Rate.ee Andre kogemada eelmistest setingutest iseenesest ka lisandunud oli, pool bug mida eip tulnud meelde kontrollida üle, ega vb kontrollisin ka omateada peaaegu ja ei jäänud silma, et kellegi muuga jagatud oleks... kuid kuna andreiga jagatud siis jah, selles osas vabandus, see kogematta Maiken jagasin ühe inimesega kes küll meie peretuttav veel pole. ) .
Ei siin pole mõeldud smaili, kuid ma solvusin, sest arvasin, et Sa nii mööda reaalsuses kõikides teistes osades (sest ma olen lihtsalt oletatavad väärtused ideaalses inimeses koos teadmistega .... ei see lause, mida see tähendama peaks,
nii.. igaksjuhuks hoian alles ka ikka :p
nii... ma eip peaks ütlema, teoreetiliselt, sest, Reaalselt ju, peab olema ettevaatlik ja tähelepanelik sellistes asjades, sest muidu ei saa usaldada, (et midagi extreem ebavajalikku eip jaga.).ja see siis ikkagi suures plaanis suur viga ka mida vajalik oli, et ettevaatlikuseks opiksin,
)
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Muidugi kõige alguses, seda peaksin ka juba siin ütlema, oli mõeldu see suuremeelselt, kuidas iganes, privaat või avalik kuid ka avalik kus iganes suunas, Leedina, Daamina, Sõbrana,
sõprus enäitena millest kasvõi hiljme arusaadakse..kuid eelkõige kes näevad, et misiganes edasisuuna minnes..oleks lihtne hästi viisakalt igas mõttes igatpidi liikuda...
selline..kui õige üks väike jälg mahajäta..mis oleks olnud ka ju sellesmottes, selliselt esimene ja samas arvetatud kasvõi ka ainuke, see oli siialt igatpidi igas heas mõttesmõeldud,
mitte kindla suunaga, aga et oleks ik ahea suunaga...kõige suurema splaanis kui hästi suurelt hästi kõik...
See nii imelk, et sul kogu selle aja jooksul , kus meil oli võimlik rääkida ja küsida..uurida..et kes ma olen.. mis ma arvan nii ja naa...
ja seeg ajutides ju vestlust ka nii nagu SINA tahaksid...
mis sobinuks mulle...
et siis ei küsita eiti miskit..siis ma iseneid asju ju endast ei saa välja...ja mäletada
siis väärtused ikka samad,
oi kui palju enese miinuseid ja asju mida oleksin pidanud paremini tegema elus...
nu ja eks seepärast "kiilakatele" psüphedeeliad ja muud rohelised ained ei meeldi,meeldetuletada,ja kui arusaanud siis kohustus ju ka edasi õigemni teha ja arvesse võtta...
(ma ise sisemuses motlen,lopetuseks, et selle mustamaagi kelega koos olin, vb ka ylikorge topelt näitleja ja hoopis hea nagu ta tundis, tundus, vabana, kuid vb ikk avangistuses või koguni minigid muud varjandid...uuuhnnnäitavad seda leitutat teatrilist suusatajate hypnoosi jurtsi kus ette pleerisid kukumise vist selleks, et keegi ei jugeks kahtlema hakata...kuid jah...cooop....silt tuli kohe ekraanile!)
Okey, ma ühekorra "tägin" Su siia aint, siis jätkan uuest threadist...kuid siis signaal ikkagi, sest pole viisakas ainult siis lasta teisel valesti teha kui ta eksimust tegid nagu nime eemaldamine
//peaaegu oli nagu Su süüdistus,kuid loe edasi,kuidas selgitan kuidas arusaan oma puudujäägist kuid ehkikka tõusvasjoones oma õigeskäitumises, kisiganes suunas see on: Kui ma räägin õigest suunas või hästi olmeisest, siis ma selle all alati enamasti ei mõtle praegu rääkides, meist vaid olukorrast mis üldse võimaldaks meid.
ahjaa,see selgitus siis:
(kuig KA selles osas teoreetiliselt Sul õigus, sest see Rate.ee Andre kogemada eelmistest setingutest iseenesest ka lisandunud oli, pool bug mida eip tulnud meelde kontrollida üle, ega vb kontrollisin ka omateada peaaegu ja ei jäänud silma, et kellegi muuga jagatud oleks... kuid kuna andreiga jagatud siis jah, selles osas vabandus, see kogematta Maiken jagasin ühe inimesega kes küll meie peretuttav veel pole. ) .
Ei siin pole mõeldud smaili, kuid ma solvusin, sest arvasin, et Sa nii mööda reaalsuses kõikides teistes osades (sest ma olen lihtsalt oletatavad väärtused ideaalses inimeses koos teadmistega .... ei see lause, mida see tähendama peaks,
nii.. igaksjuhuks hoian alles ka ikka :p
nii... ma eip peaks ütlema, teoreetiliselt, sest, Reaalselt ju, peab olema ettevaatlik ja tähelepanelik sellistes asjades, sest muidu ei saa usaldada, (et midagi extreem ebavajalikku eip jaga.).ja see siis ikkagi suures plaanis suur viga ka mida vajalik oli, et ettevaatlikuseks opiksin,
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Muidugi kõige alguses, seda peaksin ka juba siin ütlema, oli mõeldu see suuremeelselt, kuidas iganes, privaat või avalik kuid ka avalik kus iganes suunas, Leedina, Daamina, Sõbrana,
sõprus enäitena millest kasvõi hiljme arusaadakse..kuid eelkõige kes näevad, et misiganes edasisuuna minnes..oleks lihtne hästi viisakalt igas mõttes igatpidi liikuda...
selline..kui õige üks väike jälg mahajäta..mis oleks olnud ka ju sellesmottes, selliselt esimene ja samas arvetatud kasvõi ka ainuke, see oli siialt igatpidi igas heas mõttesmõeldud,
mitte kindla suunaga, aga et oleks ik ahea suunaga...kõige suurema splaanis kui hästi suurelt hästi kõik...
See nii imelk, et sul kogu selle aja jooksul , kus meil oli võimlik rääkida ja küsida..uurida..et kes ma olen.. mis ma arvan nii ja naa...
ja seeg ajutides ju vestlust ka nii nagu SINA tahaksid...
mis sobinuks mulle...
et siis ei küsita eiti miskit..siis ma iseneid asju ju endast ei saa välja...ja mäletada
12 February 2018 16:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
...et kas ma arv või tobu oma viisakuse või mitte.. või ma ühiskonna politsega liiiga ära hirmutatud,
et tegelikult peaks läbi murdma ja armu täiega avaldama,
et tegelikult peaks läbi murdma ja armu täiega avaldama,
12 February 2018 15:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siin peaks veel midagi olema,
aga tagasimagamised ei oel ju norm kättemaksud,
jaseda kunagi ei teeks ma,
ka siis kui kadrile saitehtud oli sellepärast, et vana poolenijäänud sõpruse heataega, kus arenenud ja paremini hoolega rohkem... oli plaan... ja mul oli ju filosoofia, et need kõik siseklubis kes olnud on... aga uksele teavad koputada need kes mingis sellises olukorras ajas ja suhtes, et vajavad, paremaks edasiminekuks, kui just molemalpole lõppenud ja lõppemas ning soovivad pardale edasi hüpata uuesti elides, kuid need asjad siis ise olema pidid ilma, et seda põhjustaks, kui ainult eemal olemine või suhtlemine mingi aja tagant teadmatu ebakidlusega ei jää piisama lõpuni
ei ma nii, ei teeks, et ütleks, et seda mida naine kõigiga magamise osas ütles tolles curly kätemaksu laulus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNJvgYR-ylM
// jäin pikalt siia mõtlema..
aga tagasimagamised ei oel ju norm kättemaksud,
jaseda kunagi ei teeks ma,
ka siis kui kadrile saitehtud oli sellepärast, et vana poolenijäänud sõpruse heataega, kus arenenud ja paremini hoolega rohkem... oli plaan... ja mul oli ju filosoofia, et need kõik siseklubis kes olnud on... aga uksele teavad koputada need kes mingis sellises olukorras ajas ja suhtes, et vajavad, paremaks edasiminekuks, kui just molemalpole lõppenud ja lõppemas ning soovivad pardale edasi hüpata uuesti elides, kuid need asjad siis ise olema pidid ilma, et seda põhjustaks, kui ainult eemal olemine või suhtlemine mingi aja tagant teadmatu ebakidlusega ei jää piisama lõpuni
ei ma nii, ei teeks, et ütleks, et seda mida naine kõigiga magamise osas ütles tolles curly kätemaksu laulus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNJvgYR-ylM
// jäin pikalt siia mõtlema..
12 February 2018 15:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja see suht ebanorm ju.. kui arvetada, et sellelei tule järge,.. ses mottes eks.. mida teised tudma peaksid kes muga olla sooviksid...
kui arusaama peakisd.. et kõik laulud peale mõndade ajutiste kriitikate või lugude filmides, on head sõnumid nagu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJao8S45ml4 ... vabalt kui motlema hakkaks, siis kes muu sonas, ned oelma peaks... :..
...kas sellealgarmastuse kraani siis saab iga naisep.... minuni suunata..
kui arusaama peakisd.. et kõik laulud peale mõndade ajutiste kriitikate või lugude filmides, on head sõnumid nagu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJao8S45ml4 ... vabalt kui motlema hakkaks, siis kes muu sonas, ned oelma peaks... :..
...kas sellealgarmastuse kraani siis saab iga naisep.... minuni suunata..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJao8S45ml4
12 February 2018 15:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nii veider, et armastuse asi tegelt ei toimi sedasi... mõõtel vaid.. nooruses ma tahtsin tõestada.. piibliaegade alguses, et armastus on kurjast.. sest loogiline tundus kui palju valu ja paha selleläbi tehakse...
kuid näe sainhoopis armastuse suurimateks esindajaks, eeesseisjaks,
ses osas ku imu asjad toimivad mitte ainult need mis nähtamatud.. vaid..nu jah..nähtavaid osasi soovida..siissee.. sellega kaasneks palju mistakistaks. muudaks võimalusi hoopis ja omakorda ideoloogiliselt jumalaantud võimeid ka alandaks.. .
et läheks selle lutzi teed kes ennast liialt järjeüpidvalt keskmes hoids
// njea.. naised peaksid.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4llXJnJrTBc arusama, et mehed saavad aru, et neid sedasi kantakse, kui nad suurvaimsusest arusaavad teoorjaski, agajalt, senikaua kui alluvad sellele üldpõhimõttes on juba Eestlase karva kes pole idikas või muumaalane
kuid näe sainhoopis armastuse suurimateks esindajaks, eeesseisjaks,
ses osas ku imu asjad toimivad mitte ainult need mis nähtamatud.. vaid..nu jah..nähtavaid osasi soovida..siissee.. sellega kaasneks palju mistakistaks. muudaks võimalusi hoopis ja omakorda ideoloogiliselt jumalaantud võimeid ka alandaks.. .
et läheks selle lutzi teed kes ennast liialt järjeüpidvalt keskmes hoids
// njea.. naised peaksid.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4llXJnJrTBc arusama, et mehed saavad aru, et neid sedasi kantakse, kui nad suurvaimsusest arusaavad teoorjaski, agajalt, senikaua kui alluvad sellele üldpõhimõttes on juba Eestlase karva kes pole idikas või muumaalane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4llXJnJrTBc
12 February 2018 15:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sma ma tean ,et nad imelised ja kõigil nii palju anda ja õppida ja... jagada...aga lihtsalt... see, et mees meelega, töö korras, proovib sundida ennast otisma teisi naisi... sest armastust ei anta..
ja veelgihullem.. see kes ei anna, tal endal ka pole armastust ja ta iis pigemei võta maailmalt midagi vastu, kerjusesüdantki... misiganes ta sees peidus ja mis iganes staatusesse ta saab... lihtsal ei soovi..
ma ei tea.. see nii veider..
ma niiiiiii kindel et linanaelu ja teleseriaalid, valed sobranade soovitused ja teravmeelitsused... meeste hävitust need tulnarid teevad ja viamud...
siin ei lasta elada väärikalt nii lihtsalt ja pillutakse armastust eemale..
jah.. need osad kes aavd.. pole ise koike välja videlnud.. osadel lubatakse võidelda.. osadele kingitakse.. teiste alandmaiseks ja kontrolils--- et arueisaadaks.. et enamussi eemal hoitakse...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI0NGDcPCoE
ja veelgihullem.. see kes ei anna, tal endal ka pole armastust ja ta iis pigemei võta maailmalt midagi vastu, kerjusesüdantki... misiganes ta sees peidus ja mis iganes staatusesse ta saab... lihtsal ei soovi..
ma ei tea.. see nii veider..
ma niiiiiii kindel et linanaelu ja teleseriaalid, valed sobranade soovitused ja teravmeelitsused... meeste hävitust need tulnarid teevad ja viamud...
siin ei lasta elada väärikalt nii lihtsalt ja pillutakse armastust eemale..
jah.. need osad kes aavd.. pole ise koike välja videlnud.. osadel lubatakse võidelda.. osadele kingitakse.. teiste alandmaiseks ja kontrolils--- et arueisaadaks.. et enamussi eemal hoitakse...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI0NGDcPCoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI0NGDcPCoE
12 February 2018 15:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see pole ju normaalne olukord, kus sunniviisiliselt proovin otsima sundida end teisi naisi ja see nii raske ja igav ja mõtetu tundub
12 February 2018 15:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
st on kyll nii aga ei pruugi nii saad.a.. osalt on juba hea ka varem ete kaotada.. sisi suur val ujääb saamat.a. aj ehk teadmatus ianult...
kuid vb on parem kui kõrgel.. ja siis näed... milest eemal hoiti meid...
ei seda Sa j uei saa näha. .need imtimsed asjad.. hoopis muud kui need mis saavad olla ... kilukesi ainult näinud keegi...
samas vb nad kõik opetnaud mulle... kasvada mind.. et kasvatada mind su vääriliseks.. .
... mul see tunnegi oli ,et viimane see suur rünnak mu vastu tuli, läbi selelteise naise, karistus siult, ja seega ma tema suunas ei saa pahastitunda ,... kuig isoovitati ta politseisse anda .. oma maine ja teistekaitsmiseks. kuid motlesin.. kui nii on.. etmu armastusttestisid ja siis neid asju.. mis ytles...
see etjugesin proovima hakata motlemagi teisele naisele.... kuid tema enda loal ikka...
hmm.. kui saaksajad tagais kerida vaataks neidki.. kahju.. .ju kui seda mis mu peas toimub seda ei nähta ajastette. .vaid mu heasitegusi seeasemel tõlgendatakse hoopis väära yhiskonna raamides : ((((((((((((
kuid vb on parem kui kõrgel.. ja siis näed... milest eemal hoiti meid...
ei seda Sa j uei saa näha. .need imtimsed asjad.. hoopis muud kui need mis saavad olla ... kilukesi ainult näinud keegi...
samas vb nad kõik opetnaud mulle... kasvada mind.. et kasvatada mind su vääriliseks.. .
... mul see tunnegi oli ,et viimane see suur rünnak mu vastu tuli, läbi selelteise naise, karistus siult, ja seega ma tema suunas ei saa pahastitunda ,... kuig isoovitati ta politseisse anda .. oma maine ja teistekaitsmiseks. kuid motlesin.. kui nii on.. etmu armastusttestisid ja siis neid asju.. mis ytles...
see etjugesin proovima hakata motlemagi teisele naisele.... kuid tema enda loal ikka...
hmm.. kui saaksajad tagais kerida vaataks neidki.. kahju.. .ju kui seda mis mu peas toimub seda ei nähta ajastette. .vaid mu heasitegusi seeasemel tõlgendatakse hoopis väära yhiskonna raamides : ((((((((((((
12 February 2018 15:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see nii ebaõiglane... et...
mind ühe inimesena võtakse kuid on palju ju mind kellel koi ksuht sama soov.. erikygedelt .eri aegadelt. niii gi... niigikiiresti nad omavahel toimima sanaud et nad samasse asja jõuaks samaaegsewlt.. eri inglid ja vaimud arusaamdele, nad oma modoi veel ju yle uurivad ja kysivad.. sa seda ühe mehe yhe kahtlusena edasitagasi voisid votta.. kuid..
need nagu eri minu hinge ja ... amuud osad.. laadiine.. kindlustmaine... edasiminek alati on kuid ühes allatirimine tkõik muud ka enamasti kukuvad. .tee jääb kyl lmeedle mis oli.. aga yles nad enamasti ykshaaval saavad, et kindel oleks kajku indel.. ja alla kokuvad korraga.. aga yehs joones vaadatuna.. tundub jah.. nagu tavainimese asjad...
see ainuke seletus mis vist oskan siin öelda... selgitada...
kui selelst tuleb maailma pari mselgitus kunagi filmilegi, siis ehk.. on arusaadav...
kuid siis tuleb päriselu teine osa mida osalt veelgi enam kardan... sest TEAN et siis meelega sult need blokid eemladatakse ja su südamekse süda puruneda lastakse kui mind kusile tippu tõstetakse. .end tosta laseks. et saaks ...
... ja ss võit on ikak kaotus... ku iringiga sul see tuleb sedasi.. sest ... mis naine see selline on.keda leidda olen proovinud...
et kes päriselt hooliks ja sooviks... ja siis mu Su ledasi annaks ku iSul lubatakse..
isegi kui ni poel. .filmi ikka see nii läheb..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn-WymaxYyo
mind ühe inimesena võtakse kuid on palju ju mind kellel koi ksuht sama soov.. erikygedelt .eri aegadelt. niii gi... niigikiiresti nad omavahel toimima sanaud et nad samasse asja jõuaks samaaegsewlt.. eri inglid ja vaimud arusaamdele, nad oma modoi veel ju yle uurivad ja kysivad.. sa seda ühe mehe yhe kahtlusena edasitagasi voisid votta.. kuid..
need nagu eri minu hinge ja ... amuud osad.. laadiine.. kindlustmaine... edasiminek alati on kuid ühes allatirimine tkõik muud ka enamasti kukuvad. .tee jääb kyl lmeedle mis oli.. aga yles nad enamasti ykshaaval saavad, et kindel oleks kajku indel.. ja alla kokuvad korraga.. aga yehs joones vaadatuna.. tundub jah.. nagu tavainimese asjad...
see ainuke seletus mis vist oskan siin öelda... selgitada...
kui selelst tuleb maailma pari mselgitus kunagi filmilegi, siis ehk.. on arusaadav...
kuid siis tuleb päriselu teine osa mida osalt veelgi enam kardan... sest TEAN et siis meelega sult need blokid eemladatakse ja su südamekse süda puruneda lastakse kui mind kusile tippu tõstetakse. .end tosta laseks. et saaks ...
... ja ss võit on ikak kaotus... ku iringiga sul see tuleb sedasi.. sest ... mis naine see selline on.keda leidda olen proovinud...
et kes päriselt hooliks ja sooviks... ja siis mu Su ledasi annaks ku iSul lubatakse..
isegi kui ni poel. .filmi ikka see nii läheb..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn-WymaxYyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn-WymaxYyo
12 February 2018 14:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja ma tõsti, nii kõrge eneseinnanguga ja eneseväärikusega.. et lubasin.. kui ma ei maga ise kellegiga.. ja sul jätan loea,. .et võiksid.. et sa seda siis ei tee.. mina ei tenud ise.. ausalt.. see reaalselt "juhtus" nii kus polnud valikut.. siin maailmas need asjad..
... ja see veider el mis sai elatud veel paraleelis ka...
... see nagu eriti .. kunst oli.. seda säilitada sedasi ,et ma väärikust ei kaotama peaks ega midagi tegema mida maei soovi... heasmõttes manipuleerisin nede inimestega arvutifirma ajastul selles maades... oootes.. et saan asjad koku ja edasi .. ja valmis.. ja kuni saan Su sinna kutsuda ja näidata kõiile mille stegelikult asi on..
eks ma suts naiivne ses osas ka.. et ei arvanud.. et seda takistakse... mitutmoodi.. ka siis ei arvestanud ,et ku ima oma plaane räägin.. teitele k..kellel omad plaanid.. ei arvestanud et neid ei võetud ka nii tõsiselt... kuid hoidsin hoidsin hoidsin südan...
siis tul iesimene veider asi... kiri kus ütlesid. .et armastad teist meest Ka samal ajal.. kuigi meeldida saab.. kas sedasi pärsielt armastada saab.. eip tea... aga motlen.. kas see ajas sellega seotud.. minu enda tahtmatude pattudega...
hmm...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0GJnKnDV7o
see ma ei saa aruju kuidas saab olla nii, et Sa saaksitki päriselt olla olemas see mis mulle näidatud ja mis ise su kohta tunnen ja kuidas armastan...
kuidas saab nii olla..
... ja see veider el mis sai elatud veel paraleelis ka...
... see nagu eriti .. kunst oli.. seda säilitada sedasi ,et ma väärikust ei kaotama peaks ega midagi tegema mida maei soovi... heasmõttes manipuleerisin nede inimestega arvutifirma ajastul selles maades... oootes.. et saan asjad koku ja edasi .. ja valmis.. ja kuni saan Su sinna kutsuda ja näidata kõiile mille stegelikult asi on..
eks ma suts naiivne ses osas ka.. et ei arvanud.. et seda takistakse... mitutmoodi.. ka siis ei arvestanud ,et ku ima oma plaane räägin.. teitele k..kellel omad plaanid.. ei arvestanud et neid ei võetud ka nii tõsiselt... kuid hoidsin hoidsin hoidsin südan...
siis tul iesimene veider asi... kiri kus ütlesid. .et armastad teist meest Ka samal ajal.. kuigi meeldida saab.. kas sedasi pärsielt armastada saab.. eip tea... aga motlen.. kas see ajas sellega seotud.. minu enda tahtmatude pattudega...
hmm...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0GJnKnDV7o
see ma ei saa aruju kuidas saab olla nii, et Sa saaksitki päriselt olla olemas see mis mulle näidatud ja mis ise su kohta tunnen ja kuidas armastan...
kuidas saab nii olla..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0GJnKnDV7o
12 February 2018 14:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nüüd óli kõik veel hapram ku isel korral.. viimasel korral kui lahkulksime... ja vaat... kui on võimalik nende psühdeelikuidega ajas tagasi minna.. siiis...
huvitav... kus ma oleksin... ku iSa pisarsilmi nutsid ja ütlekid, et ma ei läheks...
ja .. ise ma uskusin ju et ei lähe me lahk useepärast... uskusin... et see üli armas... suts üle palju emotsioone mida polnud kellegil sedasi näinud...
et minupärast keegi nutkas sedasi...
aga siis ma ju ei teadnud ei sind ega mind... kuid...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjJQH5zqL40
huvitav... kus ma oleksin... ku iSa pisarsilmi nutsid ja ütlekid, et ma ei läheks...
ja .. ise ma uskusin ju et ei lähe me lahk useepärast... uskusin... et see üli armas... suts üle palju emotsioone mida polnud kellegil sedasi näinud...
et minupärast keegi nutkas sedasi...
aga siis ma ju ei teadnud ei sind ega mind... kuid...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjJQH5zqL40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjJQH5zqL40
12 February 2018 14:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
monus valu kurgus.. mite et ma sadomaoso oleks..ei oel üldse.. kuid lihtsalt õpingud.. teavitavad, et se eon psotiivne kui need valud, inimlooma seisukohalt,
et saan ennast paremini tunda kui valu tunnen hingeliselt tunnete ja armastusega seotult... sest siis on veeel alles..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEc19rkkMdg
et saan ennast paremini tunda kui valu tunnen hingeliselt tunnete ja armastusega seotult... sest siis on veeel alles..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEc19rkkMdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEc19rkkMdg
12 February 2018 14:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kui ma rääksiin.. et tunded eemaldusid vms... see polnud mitte mingi meeldiv ja hea uudis,
see polnud selleks, et eemal oleksid,
vaid selleks, et näeksid, .. et ma nüüd kohe varsti enam ei pruugi saada olla ühenduses..
ja siis vaj apäästet mõne sõnaga, mis tagasi tiriks.. piisaski isegi.... enamuse ajale elu jaoks see kui nägi, et lugesid...
kui vahest harva vastasid.. ja vahesttundus... et teadsid ika vastata kõike isegi kui ei lugenud...
ja mida rohkem sa Ei rääkinud seda enam mind pabistama ja selgitama ajas...
siis ma mudugi ei peaks sinuga sedasi pabistama.. kui teaksin..
aga.. eks see nii on.. jään ikka liialt avatuks, liialt uasaks, liialt siiraks, liialt head soovivaks..
oleksin olnud. .vagusi.. müstiline meelga...vingeraja ja mängija.. seepia ja meelitaja... siis edu milline suur küll oleks...
aga ei.. ma proovin iga koorega.. mis endalt kooriin.. eemaldada omalt ka neid sharme ja meldivusi mis mul koguematta kaasas oli d... et jääksin mina.. sellele.. kes .. peaks päris armastust tundma ja nägema...
ja ... ja see kes siis märkama peaks.. on see ideaalne kellest samm edasi Sa oled.. kuid ... nüüd vist nüüd vist... nüüüd vist....
minujaoks ju päevad saavad olla meeletu pikad... samalajal.. kui arusain.. ega sa ei mõtlegi ega soovigi mõelda, .. ei saa mõelda oma olukorras.. ei lubata näidata ... et mõtlesid ...
njuah.....
selle lugemine siin, on teoreetiline, kunagi,
kuid .... ei tüüta ka enam...
nii raske töö, on sundida ennast teisi naisi otsima..
ma ei saa aru, enamustel meestel pidi vastupidi olema ja siis neid teakse maha sellepärast ja kõiki sama puuga vaadatakse.. minul vastupidi.. ja siis... saan ikka kaela kõi kmitmelt poolt...
mida iganes teen on rohkem vale ku ieelmine valik
see polnud selleks, et eemal oleksid,
vaid selleks, et näeksid, .. et ma nüüd kohe varsti enam ei pruugi saada olla ühenduses..
ja siis vaj apäästet mõne sõnaga, mis tagasi tiriks.. piisaski isegi.... enamuse ajale elu jaoks see kui nägi, et lugesid...
kui vahest harva vastasid.. ja vahesttundus... et teadsid ika vastata kõike isegi kui ei lugenud...
ja mida rohkem sa Ei rääkinud seda enam mind pabistama ja selgitama ajas...
siis ma mudugi ei peaks sinuga sedasi pabistama.. kui teaksin..
aga.. eks see nii on.. jään ikka liialt avatuks, liialt uasaks, liialt siiraks, liialt head soovivaks..
oleksin olnud. .vagusi.. müstiline meelga...vingeraja ja mängija.. seepia ja meelitaja... siis edu milline suur küll oleks...
aga ei.. ma proovin iga koorega.. mis endalt kooriin.. eemaldada omalt ka neid sharme ja meldivusi mis mul koguematta kaasas oli d... et jääksin mina.. sellele.. kes .. peaks päris armastust tundma ja nägema...
ja ... ja see kes siis märkama peaks.. on see ideaalne kellest samm edasi Sa oled.. kuid ... nüüd vist nüüd vist... nüüüd vist....
minujaoks ju päevad saavad olla meeletu pikad... samalajal.. kui arusain.. ega sa ei mõtlegi ega soovigi mõelda, .. ei saa mõelda oma olukorras.. ei lubata näidata ... et mõtlesid ...
njuah.....
selle lugemine siin, on teoreetiline, kunagi,
kuid .... ei tüüta ka enam...
nii raske töö, on sundida ennast teisi naisi otsima..
ma ei saa aru, enamustel meestel pidi vastupidi olema ja siis neid teakse maha sellepärast ja kõiki sama puuga vaadatakse.. minul vastupidi.. ja siis... saan ikka kaela kõi kmitmelt poolt...
mida iganes teen on rohkem vale ku ieelmine valik
12 February 2018 14:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu jah.. et küsimuse mõte oli... et..
Kas see on moraalne, ... ma muidu tegelikult vist... ei võtaks, ega muretseks naise leidmise pärast..
muidu rahulikult ootaks elu lõpuni Sind...
aga siis närbub see ja kaob see mis mul antud.. kuid ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsyxl1Z9DaE&=&index=9&=&list=RD9uVFV2J
nu jah..
Kas see on moraalne, ... ma muidu tegelikult vist... ei võtaks, ega muretseks naise leidmise pärast..
muidu rahulikult ootaks elu lõpuni Sind...
aga siis närbub see ja kaob see mis mul antud.. kuid ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsyxl1Z9DaE&=&index=9&=&list=RD9uVFV2J
nu jah..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsyxl1Z9DaE&&index=9&list=RD9uVFV2J
12 February 2018 14:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
argh, kahte viimast osa ei näinutki,
hmm, nüüd peab mõtlema kus seda lõpuni näha, kuhu need patud viisid
oh see onlainis ka olemas ikkagi
https://kanal2.postimees.ee/pluss/video/?id=25828
.. nüüd nähes, et ikka veel 4-5 osa veel.. eip jaksagi seda koolitöööd lõpuni teha,
// hiljem
hmm, nüüd peab mõtlema kus seda lõpuni näha, kuhu need patud viisid
oh see onlainis ka olemas ikkagi
https://kanal2.postimees.ee/pluss/video/?id=25828
.. nüüd nähes, et ikka veel 4-5 osa veel.. eip jaksagi seda koolitöööd lõpuni teha,
// hiljem
https://kanal2.postimees.ee/pluss/video/?id=25828
12 February 2018 14:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
..siis kuida mustade silmadega esoteerika nõidused siiraste sisse patule viivad, päris mitut asja ikka too filmik näitab
12 February 2018 13:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
itav, kas need stereotüüpid mis erinevate välimuste taga... peavad ka enamasti nii suuresti paika
12 February 2018 12:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// ühesõnaga see film ja selles filmi-seriaalis olev ka, elu õppe filmide listi
vajalikku materiali selles palju, mida inimhinge arenguks tarvis, lisa kommetaaridega, hea kasutada
vajalikku materiali selles palju, mida inimhinge arenguks tarvis, lisa kommetaaridega, hea kasutada
12 February 2018 12:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid paar korraliku psühedeelia tutvust, ravib paljut
12 February 2018 12:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
meie argiellu
12 February 2018 12:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sari küll intensiivsuse osas lahja, kuid inimosasi näitab piisavalt, võttes mured kokku, kust meie kultuur edasi arenema peab, kui allesjääda soovime,
enneläänemeelsete integreerimist
enneläänemeelsete integreerimist
12 February 2018 12:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid üldiselt toob arusaama, et riiklikult karistada sellepärast juba võiks südamete lõhkujaid, et nad ise arusaaksid suurest veast , et viga ei laieneks ja.. et need suured kahjud ei tekiks, mis tekivad... kui kellegi süda katki on siis mõistus ka järgneb ja täiskasvnud naisetki, vist päris hullumoodi käituma hakkavad mis pole kohane sellele vaimsele arengule, täiskasvanulikusele... milles nad kasvasid ja end olema teadsid.
Muidugi siis on ka suts esoteerilised, maagilised, mustemas ja muus hapramas mõttes, kellel veel oma elemendid ja põhjused miks nad mida teevad..
Kuid kui naised omavahel sõjas...siiis ..ka see karm, omavahel ju see eriti ohtlik, kui sellised arusaamad võetud on, et kes kokku pidi hoidma
Hm... igatahes, palju veel mõelda, et mis harju kesmine aitaks ..mis kaelarihm oleks piisavalt lõtv õiges suunas arenemiseks kuid tugev paigalhoidmiseks.. selles inimkonnas,
eks nad sümboolselt lipsu selleks ka kasutada proovinud ja avaliku imagot ja..
kuid jah..
//märkmed
Muidugi siis on ka suts esoteerilised, maagilised, mustemas ja muus hapramas mõttes, kellel veel oma elemendid ja põhjused miks nad mida teevad..
Kuid kui naised omavahel sõjas...siiis ..ka see karm, omavahel ju see eriti ohtlik, kui sellised arusaamad võetud on, et kes kokku pidi hoidma
Hm... igatahes, palju veel mõelda, et mis harju kesmine aitaks ..mis kaelarihm oleks piisavalt lõtv õiges suunas arenemiseks kuid tugev paigalhoidmiseks.. selles inimkonnas,
eks nad sümboolselt lipsu selleks ka kasutada proovinud ja avaliku imagot ja..
kuid jah..
//märkmed
12 February 2018 12:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
filmis ikka eriti hästi mitmeid külgi inimpooltest näitavad..
Hmm...
Naised kes naistele pealiskaudseid väärtusi tervalt süstivad...
mehed kes üksteisele millionitega meelega selga sõidavad ja..
nii palju mida vaja areneda inimliigil, kuid kiiremini...
saadakse hakkama hästi ja rõhutakse miskite väärtusteni ja siis nühitakse raskelt edasi samas taktis..
kuid eks esimese sammuna peaks ilmselgelt mehelt mitte nõudma kõrgemiad käitumisnormi kui ta juba täiseas ja ikka alkoholi joob...
või .. nu tegelikult niipalju nüanse veel, mida sõnadesse panna veel ei oska..
kuid veider see patueluga kaasnev hõlpu ilu ja mõnu ...kuid eks kõik naiste vead saab panna nende armastuse ja lootuse arvele
Hmm...
Naised kes naistele pealiskaudseid väärtusi tervalt süstivad...
mehed kes üksteisele millionitega meelega selga sõidavad ja..
nii palju mida vaja areneda inimliigil, kuid kiiremini...
saadakse hakkama hästi ja rõhutakse miskite väärtusteni ja siis nühitakse raskelt edasi samas taktis..
kuid eks esimese sammuna peaks ilmselgelt mehelt mitte nõudma kõrgemiad käitumisnormi kui ta juba täiseas ja ikka alkoholi joob...
või .. nu tegelikult niipalju nüanse veel, mida sõnadesse panna veel ei oska..
kuid veider see patueluga kaasnev hõlpu ilu ja mõnu ...kuid eks kõik naiste vead saab panna nende armastuse ja lootuse arvele
12 February 2018 11:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidu õigeid karme tõdesi node osas ta näitab,
.. täis toonil jorsid
ja siis naised kes nois armunud
veidrate geenidega eelistavad paljud edasi liikuda... mis imelik värk sellega on siin ilmas...
kohustuslikud psyhettelsed ja tõeseerumi sesioonid peaks ikka elementaarsed olema koos riikliku reaalse tõsise karistusega, peale teatud stadiumi suhte petmist.
Eriti kui ise enda vigatdest patukomisionile eip teavitata ..eks see paturegister & indulgensi portaal ka tulekul ja vajalik, veel omade koku hoidmiseks, neile kes arusaada soovivad.
kuid kuida shoida korda ilma fanatismita...kudas kaitsta armastust ilma kalkuseta
.. täis toonil jorsid
ja siis naised kes nois armunud
veidrate geenidega eelistavad paljud edasi liikuda... mis imelik värk sellega on siin ilmas...
kohustuslikud psyhettelsed ja tõeseerumi sesioonid peaks ikka elementaarsed olema koos riikliku reaalse tõsise karistusega, peale teatud stadiumi suhte petmist.
Eriti kui ise enda vigatdest patukomisionile eip teavitata ..eks see paturegister & indulgensi portaal ka tulekul ja vajalik, veel omade koku hoidmiseks, neile kes arusaada soovivad.
kuid kuida shoida korda ilma fanatismita...kudas kaitsta armastust ilma kalkuseta
12 February 2018 11:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Communists played critical roles in the earliest struggles to organize American workers into unions, as well as the later civil rights movements and anti-war movements. However, many Communists were forced to work covertly due to the high level of political repression in the United States against Communists, whom were targeted for legal retaliation and in some areas state-supported terrorism and lynchings. According to Gus Hall, who served as the General Secretary of the party for most of the later 20th Century, Communists' scientific understanding of the nature of class struggle enables them to be the most effective organizers, a benefit he called the "Communist plus". When Communists were expelled from the AFL-CIO in 1948, organized labor's influence on economic and political development stagnated and later plummeted. The Communist Party greatly suffered under the ensuing period of McCarthyism, in which the US government openly carried out mass repression against Communists and simultaneously ran a nationalist propaganda campaign fueling the Cold War against the Soviet Union which would dominate US foreign policy for the rest of the century. After the dissolution of the USSR in 1991, the US government ended its espionage and police violence against the party, but the party went through another split over differences in adapting to the post-Soviet period. The party remains active but never recovered the influence it had during its height in the 1930s and 40s."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Communist_Party_USA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Communist_Party_USA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Communist_Party_USA
12 February 2018 10:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Guthrie was born in 1912 in rural Oklahoma, the grandchild of migrants who had been offered land parcels by the U.S. government at the end of the 19th century. They lived real Wild West lives, complete with gun fights, fist fights, and family connections to real live outlaws. They were also participants in the wholesale racism that often went hand-in-hand with Western expansion: there is a record of Guthrie's own father participating in a lynching, and his father also actively participated in blocking a whole nearby town of black residents from voting in an election (Guthrie was a Democrat; at the time, blacks generally voted Republican) "
"There would be no particular problem with facing that fact, if it weren't for "This Land Is Your Land." Didn't they consider making this song into the national anthem at one point? (Well, kind of—some folk revivalists suggested it, and the idea stuck around long enough to get its own Facebook group"
"When Guthrie scribbled down the lyrics to "This Land Is Your Land" in 1940, there was no fanfare. He didn't even have a tune for the song, and he mostly wrote it because he was so irritated with hearing "God Bless America" all the time on the radio. Instead of the line we now know so well, This land was made for you and me, at the end of each verse, the verses ended with the line God blessed America for me (he changed the song when he first recorded it in 1944)."
""This Land Is Your Land" seems to envision a semi-socialist version of this very country. In Woody Guthrie's America, the land is held communally and the people come together in work and song. This land belongs to you and me. Literally. How did this radical anthem ever become such an accepted part of the mainstream?
" And so it came to pass that the lyrics "This land belongs to you and me" passed innocently over the lips of probably hundreds of thousands of Americans, both youths and adults. But the question remains: is the song fundamentally American, or anti-American? "
https://www.shmoop.com/this-land-is-your-land/meaning.html
"There would be no particular problem with facing that fact, if it weren't for "This Land Is Your Land." Didn't they consider making this song into the national anthem at one point? (Well, kind of—some folk revivalists suggested it, and the idea stuck around long enough to get its own Facebook group"
"When Guthrie scribbled down the lyrics to "This Land Is Your Land" in 1940, there was no fanfare. He didn't even have a tune for the song, and he mostly wrote it because he was so irritated with hearing "God Bless America" all the time on the radio. Instead of the line we now know so well, This land was made for you and me, at the end of each verse, the verses ended with the line God blessed America for me (he changed the song when he first recorded it in 1944)."
""This Land Is Your Land" seems to envision a semi-socialist version of this very country. In Woody Guthrie's America, the land is held communally and the people come together in work and song. This land belongs to you and me. Literally. How did this radical anthem ever become such an accepted part of the mainstream?
" And so it came to pass that the lyrics "This land belongs to you and me" passed innocently over the lips of probably hundreds of thousands of Americans, both youths and adults. But the question remains: is the song fundamentally American, or anti-American? "
https://www.shmoop.com/this-land-is-your-land/meaning.html
https://www.shmoop.com/this-land-is-your-land/meaning.html
12 February 2018 10:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Little Known Fact: Woody Guthrie Was a Big Ol' Racist
"..his father was a Klansman. Pops was also an upper-middle class Okehma, Okla., politician and land speculator. Guthrie, then, learned to sing and play guitar by imitating blues records from the comfort of his bedroom, not around a migrant labor camp fire. Throw in a nasty racist streak (outlined below), and one can make the case that his public and political presentation was fake, a theatrical facade."
" After encountering a group of African-Americans on Santa Monica Beach one day in 1937, Guthrie immortalized the meeting in a lengthy poem that included stanzas like, "What is that Ethiopian smell / upon the Zephyrs, what a fright!" and "We could dimly hear their chants / and we thought the blacks by chance / were doing a cannibal dance."*
Broadcasting on Pasadena's KFVD, Guthrie often indulged in on-air employ of ebonics and was stunned when a black listener characterized the singer as "unintelligent" after hearing Guthrie perform songs with titles like "Run, Nigger, Run" and "Nigger Blues." Fortunately for Guthrie, recordings of these tunes do not survive.
http://www.laweekly.com/music/little-known-fact-woody-guthrie-was-a-big-ol-racist-2412272
"..his father was a Klansman. Pops was also an upper-middle class Okehma, Okla., politician and land speculator. Guthrie, then, learned to sing and play guitar by imitating blues records from the comfort of his bedroom, not around a migrant labor camp fire. Throw in a nasty racist streak (outlined below), and one can make the case that his public and political presentation was fake, a theatrical facade."
" After encountering a group of African-Americans on Santa Monica Beach one day in 1937, Guthrie immortalized the meeting in a lengthy poem that included stanzas like, "What is that Ethiopian smell / upon the Zephyrs, what a fright!" and "We could dimly hear their chants / and we thought the blacks by chance / were doing a cannibal dance."*
Broadcasting on Pasadena's KFVD, Guthrie often indulged in on-air employ of ebonics and was stunned when a black listener characterized the singer as "unintelligent" after hearing Guthrie perform songs with titles like "Run, Nigger, Run" and "Nigger Blues." Fortunately for Guthrie, recordings of these tunes do not survive.
http://www.laweekly.com/music/little-known-fact-woody-guthrie-was-a-big-ol-racist-2412272
http://www.laweekly.com/music/little-known-fact-woody-guthrie-was-a-big-ol-racist-2412272
12 February 2018 10:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" The Communist Labor Party of America (CLP) was one of the organizational predecessors of the Communist Party USA. The group was established at the end of August 1919 following a three-way split of the Socialist Party of America.
Although a legal political party at the time of its formation, with a form of organization closely resembling that of the Socialist Party whence it sprung, the group was quickly forced underground by the Palmer Raids of January 1920 and thereafter conducted its activities in secret.
The CLP merged with a dissident faction of the Communist Party of America in May 1920 to form the United Communist Party of America. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Labor_Party_of_America
Although a legal political party at the time of its formation, with a form of organization closely resembling that of the Socialist Party whence it sprung, the group was quickly forced underground by the Palmer Raids of January 1920 and thereafter conducted its activities in secret.
The CLP merged with a dissident faction of the Communist Party of America in May 1920 to form the United Communist Party of America. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Labor_Party_of_America
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Labor_Party_of_America
12 February 2018 10:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" At its 1925 convention, the group renamed itself the Workers (Communist) Party, and in 1929 the Communist Party, USA. The party's youth affiliate was named the Young Workers League, Young Workers (Communist) League and Young Communist League in tandem with the parent organization.
As the Comintern entered the "Third Period", the principle of a leftist united front was abandoned in favor of a single above-ground Communist Party. The above-ground Workers Party of America and underground party were gradually merged in a series of party conferences in the late 1920s."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers_Party_of_America#Pamphlets
As the Comintern entered the "Third Period", the principle of a leftist united front was abandoned in favor of a single above-ground Communist Party. The above-ground Workers Party of America and underground party were gradually merged in a series of party conferences in the late 1920s."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers_Party_of_America#Pamphlets
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers_Party_of_America#Pamphlets
12 February 2018 10:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Socialist Party of America was a multi-tendency democratic socialist and social democratic political party in the United States formed in 1901 by a merger between the three-year-old Social Democratic Party of America and disaffected elements of the Socialist Labor Party which had split from the main organization in 1899.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_of_America
In the first decades of the 20th century, it drew significant support from many different groups, including trade unionists, progressive social reformers, populist farmers and immigrants. However, it refused to form coalitions with other parties, or even to allow its members to vote for other parties. Eugene V. Debs twice won over 900,000 votes in presidential elections (1912 and 1920) while the party also elected two United States Representatives (Victor L. Berger and Meyer London), dozens of state legislators, more than a hundred mayors and countless lesser officials. The party's staunch opposition to American involvement in World War I, although welcomed by many, also led to prominent defections, official repression and vigilante persecution. The organization was further shattered by a factional war over how to respond to the October Revolution in Russia in 1917 and the establishment of the Communist International in 1919—many members left the party in favor of the Communist Party.
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"Reunification with the Social Democratic Federation (SDF) was long a goal of Norman Thomas and his associates remaining in the Socialist Party. As early as 1938, Thomas had acknowledged that a number of issues had been involved in the split which led to the formation of the rival Social Democratic Federation, including "organizational policy, the effort to make the party inclusive of all socialist elements not bound by communist discipline; a feeling of dissatisfaction with social democratic tactics which had failed in Germany" as well as "the socialist estimate of Russia; and the possibility of cooperation with communists on certain specific matters". Still, he held that "those of us who believe that an inclusive socialist party is desirable, and ought to be possible, hope that the growing friendliness of socialist groups will bring about not only joint action but ultimately a satisfactory reunion on the basis of sufficient agreement for harmonious support of a socialist program""
"The Socialist Party and the SDF merged to form the Socialist Party-Social Democratic Federation (SP-SDF) in 1957. A small group of holdouts refused to reunify, establishing a new organization called the Democratic Socialist Federation. When the Soviet Union led an invasion of Hungary in 1956, half of the members of Communist Parties around the world quit—in the U.S. half did and many joined the Socialist Party."
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"In its 1972 convention, the Socialist Party had two Co-Chairmen, Bayard Rustin and Charles S. Zimmerman (of the International Ladies Garment Workers' Union,[ ILGWU); and a First National Vice Chairman, James S. Glaser, who were re-elected by acclamation. In his opening speech to the convention, Co-Chairman Bayard Rustin called for the group to organize against the "reactionary policies of the Nixon Administration" and also criticized the "irresponsibility and élitism of the 'New Politics' liberals".[75]
The party changed its name to Social Democrats, USA (SDUSA) by a vote of 73 to 34. Renaming the party as SDUSA was meant to be "realistic"
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Leader Eugene V. Debs
Allan L. Benson
Norman Thomas
Darlington Hoopes
Founded July 29, 1901
Dissolved December 31, 1972
Preceded by Social Democratic Party of America
Socialist Labor Party
Succeeded by Social Democrats, USA
(majority)
Socialist Party USA
(minority)
Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee (minority)
World Socialist Party of the United States (minority)
Headquarters Washington D.C.(minority)
Youth wing Young People's Socialist League
Ideology Anti-Stalinism
Pacifism
Socialism (American)
Political position Left-wing
International affiliation Second International
(1901–1916)
Labour and Socialist International
(1923–1940)
Socialist International
(1951–1972)
Colors Dark red
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_of_America
In the first decades of the 20th century, it drew significant support from many different groups, including trade unionists, progressive social reformers, populist farmers and immigrants. However, it refused to form coalitions with other parties, or even to allow its members to vote for other parties. Eugene V. Debs twice won over 900,000 votes in presidential elections (1912 and 1920) while the party also elected two United States Representatives (Victor L. Berger and Meyer London), dozens of state legislators, more than a hundred mayors and countless lesser officials. The party's staunch opposition to American involvement in World War I, although welcomed by many, also led to prominent defections, official repression and vigilante persecution. The organization was further shattered by a factional war over how to respond to the October Revolution in Russia in 1917 and the establishment of the Communist International in 1919—many members left the party in favor of the Communist Party.
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"Reunification with the Social Democratic Federation (SDF) was long a goal of Norman Thomas and his associates remaining in the Socialist Party. As early as 1938, Thomas had acknowledged that a number of issues had been involved in the split which led to the formation of the rival Social Democratic Federation, including "organizational policy, the effort to make the party inclusive of all socialist elements not bound by communist discipline; a feeling of dissatisfaction with social democratic tactics which had failed in Germany" as well as "the socialist estimate of Russia; and the possibility of cooperation with communists on certain specific matters". Still, he held that "those of us who believe that an inclusive socialist party is desirable, and ought to be possible, hope that the growing friendliness of socialist groups will bring about not only joint action but ultimately a satisfactory reunion on the basis of sufficient agreement for harmonious support of a socialist program""
"The Socialist Party and the SDF merged to form the Socialist Party-Social Democratic Federation (SP-SDF) in 1957. A small group of holdouts refused to reunify, establishing a new organization called the Democratic Socialist Federation. When the Soviet Union led an invasion of Hungary in 1956, half of the members of Communist Parties around the world quit—in the U.S. half did and many joined the Socialist Party."
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"In its 1972 convention, the Socialist Party had two Co-Chairmen, Bayard Rustin and Charles S. Zimmerman (of the International Ladies Garment Workers' Union,[ ILGWU); and a First National Vice Chairman, James S. Glaser, who were re-elected by acclamation. In his opening speech to the convention, Co-Chairman Bayard Rustin called for the group to organize against the "reactionary policies of the Nixon Administration" and also criticized the "irresponsibility and élitism of the 'New Politics' liberals".[75]
The party changed its name to Social Democrats, USA (SDUSA) by a vote of 73 to 34. Renaming the party as SDUSA was meant to be "realistic"
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Leader Eugene V. Debs
Allan L. Benson
Norman Thomas
Darlington Hoopes
Founded July 29, 1901
Dissolved December 31, 1972
Preceded by Social Democratic Party of America
Socialist Labor Party
Succeeded by Social Democrats, USA
(majority)
Socialist Party USA
(minority)
Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee (minority)
World Socialist Party of the United States (minority)
Headquarters Washington D.C.(minority)
Youth wing Young People's Socialist League
Ideology Anti-Stalinism
Pacifism
Socialism (American)
Political position Left-wing
International affiliation Second International
(1901–1916)
Labour and Socialist International
(1923–1940)
Socialist International
(1951–1972)
Colors Dark red
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_of_America
12 February 2018 10:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
one small fact:
"In alliance with the American Federation of Labor, the NAACP led the successful fight to prevent the nomination of John Johnston Parker to the Supreme Court, based on his support for denying the vote to blacks and his anti-labor rulings. It organized legal support for the Scottsboro Boys. The NAACP lost most of the internecine battles with the Communist Party and International Labor Defense over the control of those cases and the legal strategy to be pursued in that case. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAACP
"In alliance with the American Federation of Labor, the NAACP led the successful fight to prevent the nomination of John Johnston Parker to the Supreme Court, based on his support for denying the vote to blacks and his anti-labor rulings. It organized legal support for the Scottsboro Boys. The NAACP lost most of the internecine battles with the Communist Party and International Labor Defense over the control of those cases and the legal strategy to be pursued in that case. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAACP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAACP
12 February 2018 09:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Unlike open mass organization like the Socialist Party or the NAACP, the Communist Party was a disciplined organization that demanded strenuous commitments and frequently expelled members. Membership levels remained below 20,000 until 1933 and then surged upward in the late 1930s, reaching 66,000 in 1939.
The Communist Party USA (CPUSA) is a communist political party in the United States.
Established in 1919 after a split in the Socialist Party of America, it has a long, complex history that is closely tied with the U.S. labor movement and the histories of communist parties worldwide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_USA
Chairman John Bachtell
Founder C.E. Ruthenberg
Founded 1919; 99 years ago
Headquarters 235 W. 23rd Street, New York City, New York, 10011
Newspaper People's World
Youth wing Young Communist League (1920–2015)
Membership Increase est. 5,000
Ideology Bill of Rights socialism
Communism
Marxism–Leninism
Political position Far-left
International affiliation International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties
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"The Communist Party seeks equal rights for women, equal pay for equal work, the protection of reproductive rights, together with putting an end to sexism. The party's ranks include a Women's Equality Commission, which recognizes the role of women as an asset in moving towards building socialism"
... assets...
"The Communist Party notes its commitment to participating in environmental movements wherever possible, emphasizing the significance of building unity between the environmental movement and other progressive tendencies"
"The Communist Party Constitution defines the working class as a class which is "multiracial, multinational, and unites men and women, young and old, employed and unemployed, organized and unorganized, gay and straight, native-born and immigrant, urban and rural, and composed of workers who perform a large range of physical and mental labor–the vast majority of our society"
"The Communist Party is not against religion, but instead regards positively religious people's belief in justice, peace and respectful relations among peoples. To build good relations with supporters of religion, the party has its own Religious Commission"
"The Communist Party garnered support in particular communities, developing a unique geography. Instead of a broad nationwide support, support for the party was concentrated in different communities at different times, depending on the organizing strategy at that moment."
//.. so the clandestine strategy and to copy ideology to where one can.. and map new territory's who are against something... anything but red specially..
// more old times:
"From 1959 until 1989, when Gus Hall attacked the initiatives taken by Mikhail Gorbachev in the Soviet Union, the Communist Party received a substantial subsidy from the Soviets. There is at least one receipt signed by Gus Hall in the KGB archives. Starting with $75,000 in 1959, this was increased gradually to $3 million in 1987. This substantial amount reflected the party's loyalty to the Moscow line, in contrast to the Italian and later Spanish and British Communist parties, whose Eurocommunism deviated from the orthodox line in the late 1970s. Releases from the Soviet archives show that all national Communist parties that conformed to the Soviet line were funded in the same fashion"
// (just the public amounts, traces are leaved for reason...as for most it was given much more easy ways..)
"Much more controversial than mere funding is the alleged involvement of Communist members in espionage for the Soviet Union. Whittaker Chambers has alleged that Sandor Goldberger—also known as "Josef Peters", who commonly wrote under the name J. Peters—headed the Communist Party's underground secret apparatus from 1932 to 1938 and pioneered its role as an auxiliary to Soviet intelligence activities.[38] Bernard Schuster, Organizational Secretary of the New York District of the Communist Party, is claimed to have been the operational recruiter and conduit for members of the party into the ranks of the secret apparatus, or "Group A line".
Stalin publicly disbanded the Comintern in 1943. A Moscow NKVD message to all stations on September 12, 1943, detailed instructions for handling intelligence sources within the Communist Party after the disestablishment of the Comintern."
"..In 1949, the federal government put Eugene Dennis, William Z. Foster and ten other Communist Party leaders on trial for advocating the violent overthrow of the government. Because the prosecution could not show that any of the defendants had openly called for violence or been involved .."
Top party leaders
Gus Hall 1959–2000 General Secretary
Sam Webb 2000–2014 Chairman
John Bachtell 2014–present Chairman
Preston Derrig 2015-present Vice Chairman
The Communist Party USA (CPUSA) is a communist political party in the United States.
Established in 1919 after a split in the Socialist Party of America, it has a long, complex history that is closely tied with the U.S. labor movement and the histories of communist parties worldwide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_USA
Chairman John Bachtell
Founder C.E. Ruthenberg
Founded 1919; 99 years ago
Headquarters 235 W. 23rd Street, New York City, New York, 10011
Newspaper People's World
Youth wing Young Communist League (1920–2015)
Membership Increase est. 5,000
Ideology Bill of Rights socialism
Communism
Marxism–Leninism
Political position Far-left
International affiliation International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties
--
"The Communist Party seeks equal rights for women, equal pay for equal work, the protection of reproductive rights, together with putting an end to sexism. The party's ranks include a Women's Equality Commission, which recognizes the role of women as an asset in moving towards building socialism"
... assets...
"The Communist Party notes its commitment to participating in environmental movements wherever possible, emphasizing the significance of building unity between the environmental movement and other progressive tendencies"
"The Communist Party Constitution defines the working class as a class which is "multiracial, multinational, and unites men and women, young and old, employed and unemployed, organized and unorganized, gay and straight, native-born and immigrant, urban and rural, and composed of workers who perform a large range of physical and mental labor–the vast majority of our society"
"The Communist Party is not against religion, but instead regards positively religious people's belief in justice, peace and respectful relations among peoples. To build good relations with supporters of religion, the party has its own Religious Commission"
"The Communist Party garnered support in particular communities, developing a unique geography. Instead of a broad nationwide support, support for the party was concentrated in different communities at different times, depending on the organizing strategy at that moment."
//.. so the clandestine strategy and to copy ideology to where one can.. and map new territory's who are against something... anything but red specially..
// more old times:
"From 1959 until 1989, when Gus Hall attacked the initiatives taken by Mikhail Gorbachev in the Soviet Union, the Communist Party received a substantial subsidy from the Soviets. There is at least one receipt signed by Gus Hall in the KGB archives. Starting with $75,000 in 1959, this was increased gradually to $3 million in 1987. This substantial amount reflected the party's loyalty to the Moscow line, in contrast to the Italian and later Spanish and British Communist parties, whose Eurocommunism deviated from the orthodox line in the late 1970s. Releases from the Soviet archives show that all national Communist parties that conformed to the Soviet line were funded in the same fashion"
// (just the public amounts, traces are leaved for reason...as for most it was given much more easy ways..)
"Much more controversial than mere funding is the alleged involvement of Communist members in espionage for the Soviet Union. Whittaker Chambers has alleged that Sandor Goldberger—also known as "Josef Peters", who commonly wrote under the name J. Peters—headed the Communist Party's underground secret apparatus from 1932 to 1938 and pioneered its role as an auxiliary to Soviet intelligence activities.[38] Bernard Schuster, Organizational Secretary of the New York District of the Communist Party, is claimed to have been the operational recruiter and conduit for members of the party into the ranks of the secret apparatus, or "Group A line".
Stalin publicly disbanded the Comintern in 1943. A Moscow NKVD message to all stations on September 12, 1943, detailed instructions for handling intelligence sources within the Communist Party after the disestablishment of the Comintern."
"..In 1949, the federal government put Eugene Dennis, William Z. Foster and ten other Communist Party leaders on trial for advocating the violent overthrow of the government. Because the prosecution could not show that any of the defendants had openly called for violence or been involved .."
Top party leaders
Gus Hall 1959–2000 General Secretary
Sam Webb 2000–2014 Chairman
John Bachtell 2014–present Chairman
Preston Derrig 2015-present Vice Chairman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_USA
12 February 2018 09:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The Socialist Party of the United States of America[2] (SPUSA), usually simplified as Socialist Party USA or Socialist Party, is a multi-tendency democratic socialist party in the United States. The SPUSA was founded in 1973 as a successor to the Socialist Party of America, which had been renamed Social Democrats, USA a year before.
The party is officially committed to multi-tendency democratic socialism. Along with its predecessor, the Socialist Party USA has received varying degrees of support when its candidates have competed against those from the Republican and Democratic parties. The SPUSA advocates for complete independence from the Democratic Party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_USA
168 Canal Street, 6th Floor New York, NY 10013
For the 2016 general election, the Socialist Party nominated Mimi Soltysik and Angela Nicole Walker to be its presidential ticket. Other party members ran for office as well, including Jarrod Williams for United States Senate in Nevada, Seth Baker for Maine Senate and Michael Anderson for the Michigan House of Representatives.
According to the party's first chairman, Frank Zeidler, the party had around 500 members nationwide in 1975
A New York Times article in May 2011 stated that the party has "about 1,000 members nationally". In February 2012, an article from The Root stated that the party had a "membership around 1,500"...
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As of August 2017, the Socialist Party had twenty four chartered locals and five chartered state parties.[52]
State parties[edit]
Socialist Party of California
Socialist Party of Maine
Socialist Party of Michigan
Socialist Party of New Jersey
Locals[edit]
Socialist Party of Central Alabama
Los Angeles Socialist Party
Socialist Party of Ventura County
Bay Area Socialists (Oakland, California)
Front Range Socialist Party (Denver, Colorado)
Washington DC Socialist Party
Chicago Socialist Party
Socialist Party of Greater Springfield (Illinois)
Greater Indianapolis Socialist Party
Northern Indiana Socialist Party
Socialist Party of Central Kentucky
Socialist Party of Southern Maine
Socialist Party of Eastern Maine
Socialist Party of Boston
Socialist Party of Twin Cities Metro (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
Socialist Party of Northern New Jersey
Central New Jersey Socialist Party
Capital District Socialist Party of New York
Socialist Party of Central New York
Socialist Party of New York City
Northern Piedmont of North Carolina Local
Socialist Party of Philadelphia
The party is officially committed to multi-tendency democratic socialism. Along with its predecessor, the Socialist Party USA has received varying degrees of support when its candidates have competed against those from the Republican and Democratic parties. The SPUSA advocates for complete independence from the Democratic Party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_USA
168 Canal Street, 6th Floor New York, NY 10013
For the 2016 general election, the Socialist Party nominated Mimi Soltysik and Angela Nicole Walker to be its presidential ticket. Other party members ran for office as well, including Jarrod Williams for United States Senate in Nevada, Seth Baker for Maine Senate and Michael Anderson for the Michigan House of Representatives.
According to the party's first chairman, Frank Zeidler, the party had around 500 members nationwide in 1975
A New York Times article in May 2011 stated that the party has "about 1,000 members nationally". In February 2012, an article from The Root stated that the party had a "membership around 1,500"...
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As of August 2017, the Socialist Party had twenty four chartered locals and five chartered state parties.[52]
State parties[edit]
Socialist Party of California
Socialist Party of Maine
Socialist Party of Michigan
Socialist Party of New Jersey
Locals[edit]
Socialist Party of Central Alabama
Los Angeles Socialist Party
Socialist Party of Ventura County
Bay Area Socialists (Oakland, California)
Front Range Socialist Party (Denver, Colorado)
Washington DC Socialist Party
Chicago Socialist Party
Socialist Party of Greater Springfield (Illinois)
Greater Indianapolis Socialist Party
Northern Indiana Socialist Party
Socialist Party of Central Kentucky
Socialist Party of Southern Maine
Socialist Party of Eastern Maine
Socialist Party of Boston
Socialist Party of Twin Cities Metro (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
Socialist Party of Northern New Jersey
Central New Jersey Socialist Party
Capital District Socialist Party of New York
Socialist Party of Central New York
Socialist Party of New York City
Northern Piedmont of North Carolina Local
Socialist Party of Philadelphia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_USA
12 February 2018 09:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
In 2000 the group changed its name to the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism. CCDS permits dual membership in both the Socialist Party USA and the Communist Party USA.
The Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (CCDS) is a democratic socialist group in the United States that originated in 1991 as the Committees of Correspondence, a moderate grouping in the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). Named after the Committees of Correspondence formed during the American Revolution, the group criticized the leadership of CPUSA president Gus Hall and argued that, in light of the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the party should reject Leninism and adopt a multi-tendency democratic socialist orientation. The party remains Marxist in nature.
The former CPUSA official Gil Green, as well as notable activists such as Pete Seeger and Angela Davis, led the reformist movement in December 1991 at the national convention.[2] Failing to win over the majority of CPUSA members, the group left the party. It held conferences to establish a new organization, which attracted independent leftists and socialists from outside the CPUSA tradition, or some who had left the party previously over its policies.
Its publications include Dialogue and Initiative and Crosscurrents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committees_of_Correspondence_for_Democracy_and_Socialism
The Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (CCDS) is a democratic socialist group in the United States that originated in 1991 as the Committees of Correspondence, a moderate grouping in the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). Named after the Committees of Correspondence formed during the American Revolution, the group criticized the leadership of CPUSA president Gus Hall and argued that, in light of the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the party should reject Leninism and adopt a multi-tendency democratic socialist orientation. The party remains Marxist in nature.
The former CPUSA official Gil Green, as well as notable activists such as Pete Seeger and Angela Davis, led the reformist movement in December 1991 at the national convention.[2] Failing to win over the majority of CPUSA members, the group left the party. It held conferences to establish a new organization, which attracted independent leftists and socialists from outside the CPUSA tradition, or some who had left the party previously over its policies.
Its publications include Dialogue and Initiative and Crosscurrents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committees_of_Correspondence_for_Democracy_and_Socialism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committees_of_Correspondence_for_Democracy_and_Socialism
12 February 2018 09:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
From its beginnings in the early years of the 20th century, the Communist Party USA was the only left political movement emphasizing racial justice for African Americans, and many in the Black community reciprocated in their support for the Party. Recognition of the relevance of Marxism for Black liberation, and of the absolute necessity of Black-white unity, continues through the present as the Party prepares to celebrate its 100th year. The leadership role of African Americans in the CPUSA is a major feature throughout its history. This presentation covers a few highlights of the rich history of Black leadership in the Communist Party USA.
Facilitator: Jarvis Tyner
Wednesday, February 14, 2018
Organizer
CPUSA Education Department
http://www.cpusa.org/event/african-american-leaders-of-the-cpusa/
Facilitator: Jarvis Tyner
Wednesday, February 14, 2018
Organizer
CPUSA Education Department
http://www.cpusa.org/event/african-american-leaders-of-the-cpusa/
http://www.cpusa.org/event/african-american-leaders-of-the-cpusa/
12 February 2018 09:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
"You know, Woody was a Communist," says Woody Guthrie's longtime friend Pete Seeger (Joel Klein, Woody Guthrie, xiv)
"guy that put a sticker on his guitar that said "This Machine Kills Fascists," possibly the first punk rocker and definitely the first full-fledged folk music hero, was a Communist. No two ways about it, folks."
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"Guthrie's political mentor, introduced Guthrie to socialists and Communists in Southern California, including Will Geer (who, in turn, introduced Guthrie to John Steinbeck). Robbin remained Guthrie's lifelong friend, and helped Guthrie book benefit performances in the Communist circles in Southern California. Notwithstanding Guthrie's later claim that "the best thing that I did in 1936 was to sign up with the Communist Party""
"Guthrie wrote a column for the Communist newspaper, People's World. The column, titled "Woody Sez", appeared a total of 174 times from May 1939 to January 1940."
"Arriving in New York, Guthrie, known as "the Oklahoma cowboy", was embraced by its leftist folk music community. For a time, he slept on a couch in Will Geer's apartment"
"book Woody, Cisco and Me. The book offers a rare first-hand account of Guthrie during his Merchant Marine service. In 1945, Guthrie's association with Communism made him ineligible for further service in the Merchant Marine, and he was drafted into the U.S. Army.(Klein, Woody Guthrie, pp. 302–03.
)"
"California, Guthrie lived at the Theatricum Botanicum, a summer-stock type theatre founded and owned by Will Geer; with blacklisted singers and actors, he waited out the anti-communist political climate."
Christine A. Spivey. "This Land is Your land, This Land is My Land: Folk Music, Communism, and the Red Scare as a Part of the American Landscape".
https://web.archive.org/web/20080625072313/http://www.loyno.edu/history/journal/1996-7/Spivey.html
"guy that put a sticker on his guitar that said "This Machine Kills Fascists," possibly the first punk rocker and definitely the first full-fledged folk music hero, was a Communist. No two ways about it, folks."
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"Guthrie's political mentor, introduced Guthrie to socialists and Communists in Southern California, including Will Geer (who, in turn, introduced Guthrie to John Steinbeck). Robbin remained Guthrie's lifelong friend, and helped Guthrie book benefit performances in the Communist circles in Southern California. Notwithstanding Guthrie's later claim that "the best thing that I did in 1936 was to sign up with the Communist Party""
"Guthrie wrote a column for the Communist newspaper, People's World. The column, titled "Woody Sez", appeared a total of 174 times from May 1939 to January 1940."
"Arriving in New York, Guthrie, known as "the Oklahoma cowboy", was embraced by its leftist folk music community. For a time, he slept on a couch in Will Geer's apartment"
"book Woody, Cisco and Me. The book offers a rare first-hand account of Guthrie during his Merchant Marine service. In 1945, Guthrie's association with Communism made him ineligible for further service in the Merchant Marine, and he was drafted into the U.S. Army.(Klein, Woody Guthrie, pp. 302–03.
)"
"California, Guthrie lived at the Theatricum Botanicum, a summer-stock type theatre founded and owned by Will Geer; with blacklisted singers and actors, he waited out the anti-communist political climate."
Christine A. Spivey. "This Land is Your land, This Land is My Land: Folk Music, Communism, and the Red Scare as a Part of the American Landscape".
https://web.archive.org/web/20080625072313/http://www.loyno.edu/history/journal/1996-7/Spivey.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20080625072313/http://www.loyno.edu/history/journal/1996-7/Spivey.html
12 February 2018 09:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
12 February 2018 09:20
Margus Meigo replied to Ahto Lääts's comment.
Ahto Lääts / Muidu ikka tead, et erinevad tähed vähemasti restreerimise asukohtagi paljudel näitab ?
(igaksjuhuks küsin üle, neid tähe kombinatsioone tead mis asutusel / rajoonil mis tähed? Et kindlalt ütled, et ei tähenda..)
(igaksjuhuks küsin üle, neid tähe kombinatsioone tead mis asutusel / rajoonil mis tähed? Et kindlalt ütled, et ei tähenda..)
12 February 2018 06:18
Margus Meigo commented on Paxo Jones's photo.
Quality bikes them make these days
12 February 2018 06:16
Margus Meigo commented on Ray Gepner's photo.
12 February 2018 06:03
Margus Meigo replied to Haitham Kaysi's comment.
Neil E. Collins who is She, the pink..?
11 February 2018 22:17
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
Targad näod
11 February 2018 22:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidu näiteks: laskesuusatamine, suusatajad, nemad aitavad elus hoida olulisi asju lumemaadel, kus luurajad ja väelised igas metsaasukohtadesse kiirelt ligi ja rännata saavad, ilma, et imelik tunduks.
Praktiline kasu näiteks, siit, suusatamine.
Praktilised liikumisvahendid ka, kui reaalselt ise suusatada ja suusatajate ligi elada... selleks aga reaalselt....rahulikult mesaalasi anutida ja kopleid...peaks ikka elma ka..õiges kohas...
kui kamp pidevalt suusatab, siis igalpool ka elada pole hää, kuigi metsaäärsed viimased väiksed karbid, vast ..nendel veel vabandatav.
Kuid majade vahel, majasi osta.. vabsje loodusest kaugel, on juba suur veidrus, kui ringiga sporti vahtiise yhte tagajärge analüüsida, ehk siis mitte märkamine ja tõsiselt mõtlemine, mis su ümber toimima peaks, et lastelastel alles oleks normalane elukoht ja 500 a hiljem ka, et teada kedagigi ke ssellega tegeleb, peaksolema elementaarne miinimum
Praktiline kasu näiteks, siit, suusatamine.
Praktilised liikumisvahendid ka, kui reaalselt ise suusatada ja suusatajate ligi elada... selleks aga reaalselt....rahulikult mesaalasi anutida ja kopleid...peaks ikka elma ka..õiges kohas...
kui kamp pidevalt suusatab, siis igalpool ka elada pole hää, kuigi metsaäärsed viimased väiksed karbid, vast ..nendel veel vabandatav.
Kuid majade vahel, majasi osta.. vabsje loodusest kaugel, on juba suur veidrus, kui ringiga sporti vahtiise yhte tagajärge analüüsida, ehk siis mitte märkamine ja tõsiselt mõtlemine, mis su ümber toimima peaks, et lastelastel alles oleks normalane elukoht ja 500 a hiljem ka, et teada kedagigi ke ssellega tegeleb, peaksolema elementaarne miinimum
11 February 2018 22:03
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Sedasi muusika üritusi ka norida võiks, kuid ainult osasi
lumelaua asjad veel ajutiselt on huvitavad vast,
kuid ikkagi, ainult spordina see asi hingetuks jääb
lumelaua asjad veel ajutiselt on huvitavad vast,
kuid ikkagi, ainult spordina see asi hingetuks jääb
11 February 2018 21:58
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
v pärastki..
11 February 2018 21:57
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Ka enamus normaalsed usiuinimesd,seda greeka-rooma kiiksude ja pervode lõbsutusalaks pidasid vast,
kuigi tor vaadata, et rahvas õues ja rõõmsameelsed, kokku saavad...kuid mid aveel päriselt praktilist siis tehase ja räägitakse smaal ajal?
kuigi tor vaadata, et rahvas õues ja rõõmsameelsed, kokku saavad...kuid mid aveel päriselt praktilist siis tehase ja räägitakse smaal ajal?
11 February 2018 21:57
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
kui liiga kauaks vahtima jäävad,
vanamoodi, oli sedamoodi pigem?
vanamoodi, oli sedamoodi pigem?
11 February 2018 21:56
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
kas ta kõige populaarsem ka on ja ehk teleka spordi ülevõtab, suht fetish teiste jooksmist vahtida, päris normaalne tegevus pole,kuijuta ette kui vanad eestalsed kabas , nädalate kaupa vaataks, et keegi joookseb ringiratast vms ja siis leavad kaasa ka veel emotsiooniga,
sellistele jändrikuga kuklasse anda ja plats puhtaks lüüa, oma maale tagasi saata
sellistele jändrikuga kuklasse anda ja plats puhtaks lüüa, oma maale tagasi saata
11 February 2018 21:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
seni kuni veel saame ja se ekogu ilmale parim, kui ise parimate välismaalastega ette täidame, need kes nii aruka tarkusega, et selgitada saab mid akudas hoida on mõtet ja saab ...ülejäänud maailma eest, osati ...andes osa aja meie maast, leppeid uusi ja teenimisõppeid ja kraamimist, vastutasuks saad maa lastelastele jätta ja kuni sinnamaani ka rahulik garantii, et keegi kuusealla ei tõsta ja siis kuuske ka kärpima.. piltlikult ja sona otseses mõttes ka
11 February 2018 21:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
seega valime ise siiin kõrgemat, parimat
11 February 2018 21:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kogu kultuur ja mood võõrastele sülle lükatakse
11 February 2018 21:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Asi selles, et jah.. meie lapsi mitte ainult välismaal, mis osati tehtud mitut muud moodi...
proovitakse ka litsistada kui muidu ei saa ja moraale ja olukordi niii rakseks panna,et na doma seemne saaks vahele pritsida,
teiste suhtesse
kas siis luues mehi eemal olekuid ja muidu raskeid olukordasi ka igas olukorras olevatele naistele kellel abielu lagunenud
või sümboolne ainult
kuid ka kogu kuktuuri arusaam ja mood lükatakse võõaste osas
proovitakse ka litsistada kui muidu ei saa ja moraale ja olukordi niii rakseks panna,et na doma seemne saaks vahele pritsida,
teiste suhtesse
kas siis luues mehi eemal olekuid ja muidu raskeid olukordasi ka igas olukorras olevatele naistele kellel abielu lagunenud
või sümboolne ainult
kuid ka kogu kuktuuri arusaam ja mood lükatakse võõaste osas
11 February 2018 21:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 February 2018 21:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 February 2018 21:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 February 2018 21:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 February 2018 21:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 February 2018 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on Auli Lehola's post.
11 February 2018 21:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
näe 303 mil eurtsi.
...nüüd panna see alkoholiga+suitsuga perspektiivi
...nüüd panna see alkoholiga+suitsuga perspektiivi
11 February 2018 21:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nüüd räägib, et 303 milioni ulatuses, aga seda ta ei teadnud öelda mida see number sümboliseeris
siis teevad haigelt moonutatud statistikat ülerahvastatud maade osas kes metsloomad ja metsa hävitanud ...ja kiidavad, et me soome järel teisel kohal, metsa küll..
ja ei öelda ka, et kärbivad millist maad ja kuidas sutsuti üle eesti, sest väiksete kohtade kisa ei kuulda...
metsa ja seenemaad juba nädalaga järsku kadunud pidid olema majatagant inimestel, Türist Põlvani
siis teevad haigelt moonutatud statistikat ülerahvastatud maade osas kes metsloomad ja metsa hävitanud ...ja kiidavad, et me soome järel teisel kohal, metsa küll..
ja ei öelda ka, et kärbivad millist maad ja kuidas sutsuti üle eesti, sest väiksete kohtade kisa ei kuulda...
metsa ja seenemaad juba nädalaga järsku kadunud pidid olema majatagant inimestel, Türist Põlvani
11 February 2018 21:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nüüd psyhedeelne tymps puidu rakendamise uudise taga, okey, suht kosmiliselt hästi sobib, great tune, kuid ehk psyhedeelia v hypnoosi-vaimsuse klubisse paremini sobiks
11 February 2018 21:21
Margus Meigo replied to Ahto Lääts's comment.
Mõtlesin juba, et algs EREP'ega või asutusega mõni, kellele mingis piires, nagu vana hea ESS (kes Vene saatkonda turvas, mitmel maal)
11 February 2018 20:09
Margus Meigo replied to Ahto Lääts's comment.
vastus seegi
11 February 2018 20:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 February 2018 20:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"põgeneda üle komputeiseeritud tsivilisatsioonist"
... nu
... nu
11 February 2018 19:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 February 2018 18:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aaaa... see näidend.. vist.. loodame!
11 February 2018 18:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Need tulnukad mis siia jäid, need kes siia eestile tahavad jääda, sest nad siin, sest neile ei ole kuskile minna...
mida fakki sellsied mehed Eestipinnal rsk?
Et polegi minna kuskile ??
Eestis olek (fakker!!!!) .... ja see ka... ilma vajaliku irooniata eetrisse pandud,
et nagu paika ei pandutki teda ???
mida fakki sellsied mehed Eestipinnal rsk?
Et polegi minna kuskile ??
Eestis olek (fakker!!!!) .... ja see ka... ilma vajaliku irooniata eetrisse pandud,
et nagu paika ei pandutki teda ???
11 February 2018 18:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja miks ETV punaKommunistid veel oma monitava illumitnati silmasärgiga kui muud moodi funki anda ei mõista
11 February 2018 18:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja praegu näidatakse veel mis
20 kord eesti laulus...
Aga mis siis on see sõnum mida nad edastada proovivad, mida need agendid taotlevad ilma järjepideva arusaamatu sõnumiga osaleda?
20 kord eesti laulus...
Aga mis siis on see sõnum mida nad edastada proovivad, mida need agendid taotlevad ilma järjepideva arusaamatu sõnumiga osaleda?
11 February 2018 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu on GAG'id ütleks selle peale eks :D
https://www.facebook.com/sillejogeva/posts/10211625472975147
https://www.facebook.com/sillejogeva/posts/10211625472975147
11 February 2018 15:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi saaks sedasi kasutada telekat, et läbi sele pidev areng ja tagasiside toimuks
11 February 2018 15:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kabe-Male ja mõned aasia selle suunalised mängud vast ka,
kuid miskid emotsioooni adrenaliini alad.. kunagist mul endal ainult pold seline sajoob aga igast spiritualistid ka üle maailma teadsid rääkida, et see elementaarne miski inimeste emotsionide doonurlus on ühtepidi ja samal ajal programeerimine teisipidi, ning kõige lihtsamal maisel tasemel, valitsustele sirkuse pakkumisega hoida inimesed rahuldatud ja pinges pidevalt ja lootuses ,et ehk järgmine aasta paremini lheb, või mõnes muus kanalis kellegi lteisel.. kuid midagi mis oleks pisavalt tähtsusetu, et saad igal aja pausi teha (kui vaid sooviks, maailmas sellest midagi ei juhtuks, kui üks vaataja telekakanalit vahetab...)
kuid miskid emotsioooni adrenaliini alad.. kunagist mul endal ainult pold seline sajoob aga igast spiritualistid ka üle maailma teadsid rääkida, et see elementaarne miski inimeste emotsionide doonurlus on ühtepidi ja samal ajal programeerimine teisipidi, ning kõige lihtsamal maisel tasemel, valitsustele sirkuse pakkumisega hoida inimesed rahuldatud ja pinges pidevalt ja lootuses ,et ehk järgmine aasta paremini lheb, või mõnes muus kanalis kellegi lteisel.. kuid midagi mis oleks pisavalt tähtsusetu, et saad igal aja pausi teha (kui vaid sooviks, maailmas sellest midagi ei juhtuks, kui üks vaataja telekakanalit vahetab...)
11 February 2018 15:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Jah, mõnd rallispordi alad, kaudselt arendavad ka tehnikat edasi ja tulevased eSpordi alad suts arvuti ja graafikat .. kuid need suures osas areneks vast muidu ka
11 February 2018 15:25
Margus Meigo commented on Andu Nevski's post.
Varakult juba amet selge!
11 February 2018 14:58
Margus Meigo commented on Andu Nevski's photo.
Niisama modellist pole tolku, peaasi, et isiksust ka on mis masinakomuunidele vastav..siis juba.. : )
11 February 2018 14:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid inimesed isegi piibli ideaalis, pandi inglite üle valitsema,
st., kui juba inglite üle, siis muude kolllide üle vast ka ilmselgelt.
Kunagi , lõppude lõpuks. ikkagi : )
st., kui juba inglite üle, siis muude kolllide üle vast ka ilmselgelt.
Kunagi , lõppude lõpuks. ikkagi : )
11 February 2018 14:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Osalt nad saavad ka lapse laste üle õigusi erinevaid jne,
oleneb muidugi olenditest, suugi vägilasi kes ennast integreerinud erinevate olenditega palju, lisaks väljamõeldule ka ikka päris..
oleneb muidugi olenditest, suugi vägilasi kes ennast integreerinud erinevate olenditega palju, lisaks väljamõeldule ka ikka päris..
11 February 2018 14:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(enamus vanad kultuurid teavad, et mis me endale tatoome, kuna tatoosi Ainult vaimsetel põhimõtetel tehti, siis sellega kaasneb ka ühenduses olemine nende jõududega..ja neil sellega mida kandja puudub, mida imtiimsemalt seda rohkem.
Nu sest enamusneed pildid kunagi kellegil joonistatud omakorda, kanaldades reaalseid olendeid kes läbi vaimu siin maailmas, läbi inimeste ainult osaliselt manifisteerida saavad ning elumahlasi maitsta, eriti siis saavad inimeselt juhtimise üle võtta kui rünnak (kaitseks vanasti sellepärast liite nendega tehtigi) kuid ka siis, kui peremees host pujrjus.. ja siis nad ka osalt purju jäävad ja... igatahse, tuleb siis loota, et omavaheline kord on paika pantud paar kordagi läbi mõtestatud ja siis Jumalakätte usaldatud,et see korda hoiab selles osas mida ise ei saa näha ega kontrollida igal hetkel. Miskit sellist, enamasti vanas ajas teati uskuda: )
Nu sest enamusneed pildid kunagi kellegil joonistatud omakorda, kanaldades reaalseid olendeid kes läbi vaimu siin maailmas, läbi inimeste ainult osaliselt manifisteerida saavad ning elumahlasi maitsta, eriti siis saavad inimeselt juhtimise üle võtta kui rünnak (kaitseks vanasti sellepärast liite nendega tehtigi) kuid ka siis, kui peremees host pujrjus.. ja siis nad ka osalt purju jäävad ja... igatahse, tuleb siis loota, et omavaheline kord on paika pantud paar kordagi läbi mõtestatud ja siis Jumalakätte usaldatud,et see korda hoiab selles osas mida ise ei saa näha ega kontrollida igal hetkel. Miskit sellist, enamasti vanas ajas teati uskuda: )
11 February 2018 14:49
Margus Meigo commented on Andu Nevski's photo.
Päris hulk tegelasi omale sõbraks kaasa võtnud, nu seni kui neid poisikesi vaos suudad enda viamus hoida ja õigeks tööks suunata.. mis siis ikka : )
11 February 2018 14:44
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Brecher's photo.
Voot, tekitad kõhukinnisusi endiselt Andu :D
11 February 2018 14:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
John Grigg at least they make some sensible articles also, looking from that.
But ..i guess.. more direct action is needed, to remove hypocrisy
But ..i guess.. more direct action is needed, to remove hypocrisy
11 February 2018 09:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Greyland says she has spoken to many others who were raised by LGBT parents and their stories are very similar to her own.
“Every single child of gay parents with whom I spoke had certain things in common,” she writes in The Last Closet. “Those with only same-sex parents in the home ached for their missing parent and longed for a real father, and nearly all of us had been sexualized far too young.”
“Every single child of gay parents with whom I spoke had certain things in common,” she writes in The Last Closet. “Those with only same-sex parents in the home ached for their missing parent and longed for a real father, and nearly all of us had been sexualized far too young.”
11 February 2018 09:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and more in here:
..but...in there comparing a features that none has..by their own typos...
https://www.firewalls.com/sonicwall_vs_fortigate
..but...in there comparing a features that none has..by their own typos...
https://www.firewalls.com/sonicwall_vs_fortigate
https://www.firewalls.com/sonicwall_vs_fortigate
11 February 2018 09:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But some also... can find faster a critical info from some other sites, like:
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1981173-firewall-comparison-sophus-vs-fortigate
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1981173-firewall-comparison-sophus-vs-fortigate
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1981173-firewall-comparison-sophus-vs-fortigate
11 February 2018 09:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
No tech-professional, but how can teach review people,write these kind of sentences when comparing or highlighting serious products:
"Fortinet fortiguard is quite awesome and very mature and advance"
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/10-big-differences-between-cisco-asa-fortinet-fortigate-rahul-bhati
or the sentence in comparing chart that seems as A.i. would have pulled them from random articles:
https://www.itcentralstation.com/products/comparisons/fortinet-fortigate_vs_sophos-utm
also in there.. "The product is extremely intuitive." should perhaps add some more keywords, expand short important key-points and then to the review link. First time am was worried, that text in comparison chart is all thee is, luckily it is connected to real humans. Mostly
Jup, top in list in long run
https://www.gartner.com/reviews/market/enterprise-network-firewall
"Fortinet fortiguard is quite awesome and very mature and advance"
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/10-big-differences-between-cisco-asa-fortinet-fortigate-rahul-bhati
or the sentence in comparing chart that seems as A.i. would have pulled them from random articles:
https://www.itcentralstation.com/products/comparisons/fortinet-fortigate_vs_sophos-utm
also in there.. "The product is extremely intuitive." should perhaps add some more keywords, expand short important key-points and then to the review link. First time am was worried, that text in comparison chart is all thee is, luckily it is connected to real humans. Mostly
Jup, top in list in long run
https://www.gartner.com/reviews/market/enterprise-network-firewall
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/10-big-differences-between-cisco-asa-fortinet-fortigate-rahul-bhati
11 February 2018 09:23
Margus Meigo commented on Nina Tacke's photo.
Nice visual effect when looking the carpet and scrolling
11 February 2018 09:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.globaldots.com/knowledge-base/datagram-congestion-control-protocol-dccp/
The Datagram Congestion Control Protocol (DCCP) is a message-oriented transport layer protocol. DCCP provides a way to gain access to congestion control mechanisms without having to implement them at the application layer.
"DCCP can also be positioned as a general congestion control mechanism for UDP-based applications, by adding a mechanism for reliable and/or in-order delivery on the top of UDP/DCCP.
DCCP has the option for very long (48-bit) sequence numbers corresponding to a packet ID, rather than a byte ID as in TCP. "
"A new user-space implementation of DCCP has been made, with the purpose of providing a standardized, portable NAT-friendly framework for peer-to-peer communications with flexible congestion control, depending on application."
The Datagram Congestion Control Protocol (DCCP) is a message-oriented transport layer protocol. DCCP provides a way to gain access to congestion control mechanisms without having to implement them at the application layer.
"DCCP can also be positioned as a general congestion control mechanism for UDP-based applications, by adding a mechanism for reliable and/or in-order delivery on the top of UDP/DCCP.
DCCP has the option for very long (48-bit) sequence numbers corresponding to a packet ID, rather than a byte ID as in TCP. "
"A new user-space implementation of DCCP has been made, with the purpose of providing a standardized, portable NAT-friendly framework for peer-to-peer communications with flexible congestion control, depending on application."
http://www.globaldots.com/knowledge-base/datagram-congestion-control-protocol-dccp/
11 February 2018 08:08
Margus Meigo replied to Kuba Adamowski's comment.
Kuba Adamowski well, in beginning most of us just a contacts,
will see how we can benafit one another in long run
will see how we can benafit one another in long run
11 February 2018 07:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
have not much of interest to look fallow's..but perhaps have to do it as work someday,
tis is why i had cold feelings about this serial so long and postponed the looking,
Extreme flat, computer game level characters.
it is kind of movie you want to look to the end, because "they got to make some sense and point, something interesting eventually"..
and ending just give that, an hope..
Yes parallels to this world and struggles, and american idol and the personality is .. has been shown in another places..so what you will do with it..how you extend..add value
tis is why i had cold feelings about this serial so long and postponed the looking,
Extreme flat, computer game level characters.
it is kind of movie you want to look to the end, because "they got to make some sense and point, something interesting eventually"..
and ending just give that, an hope..
Yes parallels to this world and struggles, and american idol and the personality is .. has been shown in another places..so what you will do with it..how you extend..add value
11 February 2018 07:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Arakawa wanted to integrate social problems into the story. Her research involved watching television news programs and talking to refugees, war veterans and former yakuza. Several plot elements, such as Pinako Rockbell caring for the Elric brothers after their mother dies, and the brothers helping people to understand the meaning of family, expand on these themes. When creating the fictional world of Fullmetal Alchemist, Arakawa was inspired after reading about the Industrial Revolution in Europe; she was amazed by differences in the culture, architecture, and clothes of the era and those of her own culture. She was especially interested in England during this period and incorporated these ideas into the manga"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiromu_Arakawa
"She often portrays herself as a bespectacled cow. Her given name is Hiromi (弘美), the first character being written identically to her male pen name, Hiromu."
"Arakawa was born and raised on a dairy farm with three elder sisters and a younger brother."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiromu_Arakawa
"She often portrays herself as a bespectacled cow. Her given name is Hiromi (弘美), the first character being written identically to her male pen name, Hiromu."
"Arakawa was born and raised on a dairy farm with three elder sisters and a younger brother."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiromu_Arakawa
11 February 2018 07:39
Margus Meigo replied to Kuba Adamowski's comment.
Kuba Adamowski Well.. immoral,maybe not everyone,
and we think, the ones batting against outs souls, have ways to trick humans them self to destruct a soul,
this might be dangerous mistake to assume to much care free in a way "who ever made us has no worry about us, and we should have no worry about out soul.."
this is reason i think humans suffering as we let wrong forces access our body and soul
but to find right line between freedom and protection, this is something we try to establish as well,
ta allow to live to naive people who think day at once and extremely superior in many strategic ways (people or non people) to live together... and if one of them happen to be with less then good intentions then...where to make a border and how, to protect, to contain.
Even in simple, human level, when my friend told me, a doctor about a women who promise to forward HIV to as many people as possible...as someone give it to her, and if she "go" other must also in revenge, - if doctor would risk to open her profile to public or police then he would lose a job when she fires back or go to even prison by law, of not protecting patient privacy.. one time she picked up hes friend.. so this is just one human example..should we just let die, these sinful who will go to bed with her in bars...or should we stop her ,protect few naive ones who come on a way...and what is fault of these wife's who own the man who got singed by her..
This is just earthly simple example..but for me usually, to make orders and righteous out of what is known, easy
and we think, the ones batting against outs souls, have ways to trick humans them self to destruct a soul,
this might be dangerous mistake to assume to much care free in a way "who ever made us has no worry about us, and we should have no worry about out soul.."
this is reason i think humans suffering as we let wrong forces access our body and soul
but to find right line between freedom and protection, this is something we try to establish as well,
ta allow to live to naive people who think day at once and extremely superior in many strategic ways (people or non people) to live together... and if one of them happen to be with less then good intentions then...where to make a border and how, to protect, to contain.
Even in simple, human level, when my friend told me, a doctor about a women who promise to forward HIV to as many people as possible...as someone give it to her, and if she "go" other must also in revenge, - if doctor would risk to open her profile to public or police then he would lose a job when she fires back or go to even prison by law, of not protecting patient privacy.. one time she picked up hes friend.. so this is just one human example..should we just let die, these sinful who will go to bed with her in bars...or should we stop her ,protect few naive ones who come on a way...and what is fault of these wife's who own the man who got singed by her..
This is just earthly simple example..but for me usually, to make orders and righteous out of what is known, easy
11 February 2018 07:12
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
Tänud
11 February 2018 06:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so one dimensional and simplistic, at least good actor in showing humaness a bit but best part was our kind of friendly nature with with lichen and bryophytes
these nature scenes was worth it, to see on world screens, perhaps many of viewers see these plants first time in this movie
but yea, at least she know some plants
these nature scenes was worth it, to see on world screens, perhaps many of viewers see these plants first time in this movie
but yea, at least she know some plants
11 February 2018 00:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey, eventually still a bit soulless movie
like 3-4 star movie script dressed in few divergent good moments in one of the many hunter & teen movie cross
just sad its true as well in few ways...
//vegan part: okey, maybe for killing energy one needs meat so it is excused
like 3-4 star movie script dressed in few divergent good moments in one of the many hunter & teen movie cross
just sad its true as well in few ways...
//vegan part: okey, maybe for killing energy one needs meat so it is excused
11 February 2018 00:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
IRL Noored tundusid küll piisavalt targad, et tunda ja arusaaada asjadest is enne neid, ehk ka selles koolis tegelejad on sellised?
10 February 2018 21:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 February 2018 21:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
& i guess the Market is representation of Soviet times, except
// spirit world these markets usually is training to grow up disobedience
// spirit world these markets usually is training to grow up disobedience
10 February 2018 21:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 February 2018 21:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i bet she is the kind of person, who , if someone does, this to her kind, she will equally go and kill hundreds of opponents if would be able, totaling again death number,a lot...instead humbly understand about that She also hunted and killed, not asked from higher level animals: is it OK for you this way?
Eventually She becomes a vegan, i hope, by the end of Movie, or it is a kind of failure, whatever the movie and more so the effort of Her life was. How to start a peace
Eventually She becomes a vegan, i hope, by the end of Movie, or it is a kind of failure, whatever the movie and more so the effort of Her life was. How to start a peace
10 February 2018 21:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 February 2018 21:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
WHAT IN A WORLD IS WRONG WT THIS MURDEROUS GIRL WANTING TO KILL THIS ANIMAL, NOT FIGURING OUT HOW TO GROW PLANTS, THESE PEOPLE.(..NO WONDER THEY IN HELL)
// THE PLANTS MADE DECISION LETS LET HER KIND HEART KNOW HOW IT IS FEEL, AND NOW SHE IS IN THIS WORLD...BUT FROM WHERE IT STARTED, CAT ALSO DID NOT LIKE HER, TO SAY AT LEAST... IS IT A ..
// THE PLANTS MADE DECISION LETS LET HER KIND HEART KNOW HOW IT IS FEEL, AND NOW SHE IS IN THIS WORLD...BUT FROM WHERE IT STARTED, CAT ALSO DID NOT LIKE HER, TO SAY AT LEAST... IS IT A ..
10 February 2018 21:30
Margus Meigo replied to Kuba Adamowski's comment.
As You might expect, the first and most noble ones, Estonians :)
(EESTI - EES a word meaning "Front" EEST meaning: "From front" and also as caring for everyone )
(EESTI - EES a word meaning "Front" EEST meaning: "From front" and also as caring for everyone )
10 February 2018 21:00
Margus Meigo replied to Kuba Adamowski's comment.
I think bible get's better by year with every re-write, as there is more sides to choose correct, and more finds from pasts comes, more understandings... but when You say., re-written (as bad thing), was it meaning it was more good before and true in good intention and true importance ?
a bit more about Slavics.
So is The lands that is invaded by former Soviet owners, are them also same species Slavic in direction or are they in partner with other 2 head eagle lands as Adolf land logo was ... is the current head Running structure of their current small empire .. is it in tune with Vatican more (in bad way) or they show traits of opposite behavior, more true Slavic (good way) ?
//for me also, true correct way is Estonian: the tree lovers, the ones who know how to respect old souls and women, in core prinsible, as much there is..
// all national states are destroyed, perhaps when people would be in co-operation with Religion and former nationalist ideals, then there would be something to save, you know, these kind of forces that did not endorse drinking, hookers and corruption or low morals in former lands.
a bit more about Slavics.
So is The lands that is invaded by former Soviet owners, are them also same species Slavic in direction or are they in partner with other 2 head eagle lands as Adolf land logo was ... is the current head Running structure of their current small empire .. is it in tune with Vatican more (in bad way) or they show traits of opposite behavior, more true Slavic (good way) ?
//for me also, true correct way is Estonian: the tree lovers, the ones who know how to respect old souls and women, in core prinsible, as much there is..
// all national states are destroyed, perhaps when people would be in co-operation with Religion and former nationalist ideals, then there would be something to save, you know, these kind of forces that did not endorse drinking, hookers and corruption or low morals in former lands.
10 February 2018 20:57
Margus Meigo replied to Kuba Adamowski's comment.
What about this God (in whatever form) that made You and me, or are we in thinking as we would be just species that is 100 to few thousand years old in starting to understand from where we come, as original, self, first species that is in the beginning of self realization as whole in near future
(that means: completion of species infant first stage as ready product that can expand as know's from where and to where ) ?
(that means: completion of species infant first stage as ready product that can expand as know's from where and to where ) ?
10 February 2018 20:48
Margus Meigo replied to Kuba Adamowski's comment.
Kuba Adamowski and is USA / NATO own interest same with other lands who's state logo is Eagle ?
Or they separate empire, true New one, not related to same aims as the ones 2-3 thousand years ago, and what happened to Spain (or even Franch) ?
Or they separate empire, true New one, not related to same aims as the ones 2-3 thousand years ago, and what happened to Spain (or even Franch) ?
10 February 2018 20:43
Margus Meigo replied to Kuba Adamowski's comment.
Kuba Adamowski interesting, continue
I got many Roth & Roch friends also in list, so be respectful as well, honest, clear, factual as well
I got many Roth & Roch friends also in list, so be respectful as well, honest, clear, factual as well
10 February 2018 20:41
Margus Meigo replied to Kuba Adamowski's comment.
So and on what side is the European Union - EU / America's Promise Alliance / China & friends / Iran & friends / Latin America & Canada ?
In mayor power (you can add % of power to illustrate aprox how far is the sift from one to another aprox compared to full one or another side )
In mayor power (you can add % of power to illustrate aprox how far is the sift from one to another aprox compared to full one or another side )
10 February 2018 20:38
Margus Meigo replied to Kuba Adamowski's comment.
Seems weak to me, (their "global power")
it's like they have no say about anything and no power at all,
Maybe some formal rights they have in Vatican inner circle about who sleeps in what room but generally seems weaker more then Eu about demanding and proposing how things have to be done.
So in what country is under the Vatican control, so we can actually see it ordered in same force and strength, as in Adolf's land? Latin America a little bit some arias maybe, at times seams from cultural order but generally it seems nearly every Caucasian people country has allowed to have porno, casinos, liberals in mayor power and no forced state level promoted Vegetarianism... ... this from Nazis and then from Vatican.. also i see not much but help me about here, what land's have been able to put Bible rule on to a country with Nazi strength ?
Sorry, just do not see any "union" or "power" around these.. just can not see it. Sometimes seems, as little fake-jew isreal (is_Real that is not even owned by proper Jews, last time i look) also has more power then this proposed Nazi-Vatican thingy ...
But hey, i take this in to consideration, perhaps its some alien-invisible kind of thing in really long term plan they play soft with us and allow to sin and to make perversions in reason to investigate a bit more how to help everyone at once ?
But okey,
So Nazi, Vatican And Roman empire is all the same and who are the ones who was their opponents in present and past ?
it's like they have no say about anything and no power at all,
Maybe some formal rights they have in Vatican inner circle about who sleeps in what room but generally seems weaker more then Eu about demanding and proposing how things have to be done.
So in what country is under the Vatican control, so we can actually see it ordered in same force and strength, as in Adolf's land? Latin America a little bit some arias maybe, at times seams from cultural order but generally it seems nearly every Caucasian people country has allowed to have porno, casinos, liberals in mayor power and no forced state level promoted Vegetarianism... ... this from Nazis and then from Vatican.. also i see not much but help me about here, what land's have been able to put Bible rule on to a country with Nazi strength ?
Sorry, just do not see any "union" or "power" around these.. just can not see it. Sometimes seems, as little fake-jew isreal (is_Real that is not even owned by proper Jews, last time i look) also has more power then this proposed Nazi-Vatican thingy ...
But hey, i take this in to consideration, perhaps its some alien-invisible kind of thing in really long term plan they play soft with us and allow to sin and to make perversions in reason to investigate a bit more how to help everyone at once ?
But okey,
So Nazi, Vatican And Roman empire is all the same and who are the ones who was their opponents in present and past ?
10 February 2018 20:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
EU i guess is only one with no eagle logo as it was meant ot be made as temporally
10 February 2018 20:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
or Even America / ?
Who was acting more as Roman-Greek empire and who was with greater potential to reach to these directions or talked/acted so ?
Who was acting more as Roman-Greek empire and who was with greater potential to reach to these directions or talked/acted so ?
10 February 2018 20:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
oh it is clear, no order anymore, finito..individual.. but people in strategic locations..people have to realize,is alright to love, but we got to have respect for bar rasing and what is ultimately more worth
"But, when a list of proposed speakers that included McAleese was allegedly submitted to Cardinal Kevin Farrell, prefect of the Dicastery for the Laity, Family and Life, he struck her name from the list. Organizers have now moved the conference to a venue outside Vatican City.
McAleese, an outspoken supporter of homosexuality, has suggested that Catholic sexual teaching is a form of “child abuse.”
With Farrell being an organizer of the upcoming Irish World Meeting of Families in August, LGBT advocates are now worried what the action against McAleese might mean to the event that some Irish bishops have promised will be open to attendance by homosexual couples.
When Archbishop Martin was asked about the “ban” on McAleese, he denied having any prior knowledge of it. He went on to underscore that the World Meeting of Families “will be an inclusive event, open to all families and family members,” reported Irish Times last week.
Martin 's statement comes in the wake of images of same-sex couples as well as pro-homosexual texts having been removed from a reissued booklet created by the country's bishops to prepare Catholic families for the upcoming event.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/irish-bishop-promises-inclusive-world-meeting-of-families-after-vatican-bar
"But, when a list of proposed speakers that included McAleese was allegedly submitted to Cardinal Kevin Farrell, prefect of the Dicastery for the Laity, Family and Life, he struck her name from the list. Organizers have now moved the conference to a venue outside Vatican City.
McAleese, an outspoken supporter of homosexuality, has suggested that Catholic sexual teaching is a form of “child abuse.”
With Farrell being an organizer of the upcoming Irish World Meeting of Families in August, LGBT advocates are now worried what the action against McAleese might mean to the event that some Irish bishops have promised will be open to attendance by homosexual couples.
When Archbishop Martin was asked about the “ban” on McAleese, he denied having any prior knowledge of it. He went on to underscore that the World Meeting of Families “will be an inclusive event, open to all families and family members,” reported Irish Times last week.
Martin 's statement comes in the wake of images of same-sex couples as well as pro-homosexual texts having been removed from a reissued booklet created by the country's bishops to prepare Catholic families for the upcoming event.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/irish-bishop-promises-inclusive-world-meeting-of-families-after-vatican-bar
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/irish-bishop-promises-inclusive-world-meeting-of-families-after-vatican-bar
10 February 2018 19:49
Margus Meigo commented on Michael LaTorra's post.
"One of them got a problem"
10 February 2018 19:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Its also reason why they put Gay tone on to A.i. in this movie...
10 February 2018 19:25
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
first time in years i see negative article related to LGBD and family in same sentence ,
what next
what next
10 February 2018 19:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see kõige olulisemate asjade osas IRL oli ka oluline..
kuigi ma ootaisn..
//ps: jub see, et ei vasta küsimustele lihtsatele..iga korraga järjest rohkem pani kirjutama,sest nägin, et meelsus langeb ja siis rohkenm peab hingeabi infot andma, et kui suhtlus katkeb sii svanaks ajaks eees miskit vähemasti...
ja miks ei ytlenud,et mida "kiitsin"?
kuigi ma ootaisn..
//ps: jub see, et ei vasta küsimustele lihtsatele..iga korraga järjest rohkem pani kirjutama,sest nägin, et meelsus langeb ja siis rohkenm peab hingeabi infot andma, et kui suhtlus katkeb sii svanaks ajaks eees miskit vähemasti...
ja miks ei ytlenud,et mida "kiitsin"?
10 February 2018 19:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see oli sünna meeldetuletuseks aga siis tuli meelde,et ju sa tead neid asju naguinii ja ...ja ilma elektroonikategi...ja lisaks elektroonika ka veel teavita..
kuid lihsalt..kas arvestame, teame , mida reaalselt saab tulevikus jutuda kaitsevälistega kui me kaitset ette eip planeeri..
(kui palju kuhu mani katsevälastel eri protokoli aktiviseerimisel oigus ise enda üle otsustada on...see asi mis diverdendi tesies osas jutuda sai on ELEMETAARNE juba enne tehnoloogiat,sest need on käsud,kus pere osas ei tohi teha erandit,reast välja minna, või omade seast tuleb käsk....sest muidu polekskorda...ja mis iganes kes ylemise staabi kaperdab ja käske andm ahakkab miskis kriisi olukorras...ainuüksi se, et olukorra oleme,kus need seaduse dpole paika pantud.,näitab...et me vabatahtlikult neil nugadel konnime)
kuid lihsalt..kas arvestame, teame , mida reaalselt saab tulevikus jutuda kaitsevälistega kui me kaitset ette eip planeeri..
(kui palju kuhu mani katsevälastel eri protokoli aktiviseerimisel oigus ise enda üle otsustada on...see asi mis diverdendi tesies osas jutuda sai on ELEMETAARNE juba enne tehnoloogiat,sest need on käsud,kus pere osas ei tohi teha erandit,reast välja minna, või omade seast tuleb käsk....sest muidu polekskorda...ja mis iganes kes ylemise staabi kaperdab ja käske andm ahakkab miskis kriisi olukorras...ainuüksi se, et olukorra oleme,kus need seaduse dpole paika pantud.,näitab...et me vabatahtlikult neil nugadel konnime)
10 February 2018 19:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 February 2018 19:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 February 2018 19:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
selles viga ongi, et kui Tulnuk sees siis kanemad, usuvad, et inimlomust mahateha tuleb, et siis neil sellesse pääseda lihtsam kui selle maha teeme ise ja arvame,et pahad teod iniemste enda teod..ja siis"andestame"...tegelt aga valvel KOHE olema peaksime kui ebahead teod ...realselt ebahead..ja SIIS mitte alluma enne kui...
aga naised lausa magavad koletistega, viisakusest, ka
aga naised lausa magavad koletistega, viisakusest, ka
10 February 2018 19:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 February 2018 19:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muidugi vanadused siin, et Su mõtteid absurdseks nimetasin...
(mu emaisal lapsepõlves kogu hing/psüühika/ideoloogia käitumine kolm epäevaga Tartu hallis Majs muudeti tolle aja avaliku organiste poolt..nüüdisajal teeeldakse nagu nad lahku oleks läinud,kuid oli ette planeeriud org välise kihi tegevuse avalik muudatus, mitukümendaaastat ette juba..)
Einar laigna seda videot ehk selles osas oled kuulnud..
(mu emaisal lapsepõlves kogu hing/psüühika/ideoloogia käitumine kolm epäevaga Tartu hallis Majs muudeti tolle aja avaliku organiste poolt..nüüdisajal teeeldakse nagu nad lahku oleks läinud,kuid oli ette planeeriud org välise kihi tegevuse avalik muudatus, mitukümendaaastat ette juba..)
Einar laigna seda videot ehk selles osas oled kuulnud..
10 February 2018 19:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siin isegi raske aru saada, Mida Sa ei usu...
või kuidas see loogiline on, kui ise neid filme vaatad..mis mottega neid siis vaadata kui mitte õppefilmiks, ja valmistuseks..fantaasia aenemiseks, asjadest arusaamiseks, tunnetamiseks miks mida filmi pantud on ja mille eest , mile osas sonumeid antakse ja mis päriselt filmiga seoses olema son ja on olnu dja mida planeeritaks ekelle poolt...kohe kindlalt...jakui neil onnestub..
mis on suure loogilise võimalusega.
või kuidas see loogiline on, kui ise neid filme vaatad..mis mottega neid siis vaadata kui mitte õppefilmiks, ja valmistuseks..fantaasia aenemiseks, asjadest arusaamiseks, tunnetamiseks miks mida filmi pantud on ja mille eest , mile osas sonumeid antakse ja mis päriselt filmiga seoses olema son ja on olnu dja mida planeeritaks ekelle poolt...kohe kindlalt...jakui neil onnestub..
mis on suure loogilise võimalusega.
10 February 2018 18:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ma edaspidi räägingi siin, sedasi mugavam, pole ühte jutu voogu ja lisaks, ei pea muretsema, et liialt
10 February 2018 18:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 February 2018 18:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 February 2018 18:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 February 2018 18:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja ikka vist päris sellest ka arueisaa, tundub, mul, alati, siiamaani, aegajalt, sest kuidas muidu oleks võimalik...
Näiteks on olukordi, kus vb tuleb osasi asju ;
st on aegu mllesse ma usun, kus tuleb ajutiselt teatud asjadele tähelepanu pöörata ja kuidas mida kaitsta, kuni teatud olukord pole veel sellge, siis midagi nii või naa kaitsta, edasi anda vms,
näieks see 2015 film mis kaasa panin,
kuid... veel mure selles, et kui teatud asjadest ajast maha jäädakse, et kust mis moodi mis infot algarusaamaks võetakse, kui ei saada aru mis märksõnade ja suhetega saab suunata ja hoida arusaamasi kontrollis ilma kontrollita..ja motei dpiisavalt eemal, et muuga hoida inimesi tegevuses kuni paratamatus tuleb...
ja kuigi lihtne suht ette planeerida palju olulist,
newer mitte midagi kustutada jaunustad,..kasvõi kasti panna milles 25,15 aasta hiljem uurid,ja siis uuesti hoiule...
sest mis hetke steame,seni kuni see arusaamise asemel unustamise ja kustutmaisega seotud siis kindel auk alles
Näiteks on olukordi, kus vb tuleb osasi asju ;
st on aegu mllesse ma usun, kus tuleb ajutiselt teatud asjadele tähelepanu pöörata ja kuidas mida kaitsta, kuni teatud olukord pole veel sellge, siis midagi nii või naa kaitsta, edasi anda vms,
näieks see 2015 film mis kaasa panin,
kuid... veel mure selles, et kui teatud asjadest ajast maha jäädakse, et kust mis moodi mis infot algarusaamaks võetakse, kui ei saada aru mis märksõnade ja suhetega saab suunata ja hoida arusaamasi kontrollis ilma kontrollita..ja motei dpiisavalt eemal, et muuga hoida inimesi tegevuses kuni paratamatus tuleb...
ja kuigi lihtne suht ette planeerida palju olulist,
newer mitte midagi kustutada jaunustad,..kasvõi kasti panna milles 25,15 aasta hiljem uurid,ja siis uuesti hoiule...
sest mis hetke steame,seni kuni see arusaamise asemel unustamise ja kustutmaisega seotud siis kindel auk alles
10 February 2018 18:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but the deepDream of society..well..there is something so many way terrifying that... ..that at times casts shadow to hope even
10 February 2018 18:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but this video was much more comforting and less worrying not so creepy as am imagined it can be for these kind of introduction
well...on some other life situations and what possible options these product calculate..some picks from there might be..
well..at least restriction free version, that will be demanded soon
to return eventual magic fight to us
well...on some other life situations and what possible options these product calculate..some picks from there might be..
well..at least restriction free version, that will be demanded soon
to return eventual magic fight to us
10 February 2018 18:42
Margus Meigo commented on MIT Technology Review's post.
Terrance Mackenna would have something to say about it..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5yOaTgWu6Y
better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf9OPyjQECI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5yOaTgWu6Y
better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf9OPyjQECI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5yOaTgWu6Y
10 February 2018 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Nu käsk vanem kui meie
10 February 2018 18:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hing jäi alles?
10 February 2018 18:30
Margus Meigo commented on Joosep Vau's post.
Läks hästi rahvaga?
Evolutsiooni viisime edasi?
Evolutsiooni viisime edasi?
10 February 2018 18:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
More reading in near rabbit hole and back
https://www.facebook.com/groups/519435028220753/permalink/960208574143394/
https://www.facebook.com/technologyreview/posts/10156074633774798
https://www.utne.com/science-and-technology/bob-ross-plus-googles-deepdream-ai-zbtz1705zsau
"google A new video titled “Deeply Artificial Trees,” which applies DeepDream to every frame of a Bob Ross video, proves that the answer to this question is, well, yes. Good grief, yes. Further, it even applies the technique to the audio — making the experience truly nightmarish.
DeepDream’s algorithms basically work by following the simplest mathematical route from basic shapes in an image to a guess at the objects those shapes represent. It then morphs the image slightly, then tries again. Over time this means that the images actually become what they’re perceived to be by the A.I. in a sort of self-reinforcing downward spiral toward freakish pictures from the world’s worst acid trip. Take a look at the video (if you dare), and check out our explanation below.
Deeply Artificial Trees was designed to highlight “the unreasonable effectiveness and strange inner workings of deep learning systems. The unique characteristics of the human voice [are] learned and generated as well as hallucinations of a system trying to find images which are not there."
https://vimeo.com/211758157
https://www.facebook.com/groups/519435028220753/permalink/960208574143394/
https://www.facebook.com/technologyreview/posts/10156074633774798
https://www.utne.com/science-and-technology/bob-ross-plus-googles-deepdream-ai-zbtz1705zsau
"google A new video titled “Deeply Artificial Trees,” which applies DeepDream to every frame of a Bob Ross video, proves that the answer to this question is, well, yes. Good grief, yes. Further, it even applies the technique to the audio — making the experience truly nightmarish.
DeepDream’s algorithms basically work by following the simplest mathematical route from basic shapes in an image to a guess at the objects those shapes represent. It then morphs the image slightly, then tries again. Over time this means that the images actually become what they’re perceived to be by the A.I. in a sort of self-reinforcing downward spiral toward freakish pictures from the world’s worst acid trip. Take a look at the video (if you dare), and check out our explanation below.
Deeply Artificial Trees was designed to highlight “the unreasonable effectiveness and strange inner workings of deep learning systems. The unique characteristics of the human voice [are] learned and generated as well as hallucinations of a system trying to find images which are not there."
https://vimeo.com/211758157
10 February 2018 18:16
Margus Meigo commented on MIT Technology Review's post.
Well this means, i have to fill few works,
first work that makes my work understandable and then work that will be represented with the work mentioned first
first work that makes my work understandable and then work that will be represented with the work mentioned first
10 February 2018 18:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
some really basic ideas that has been keep away from people..and now, do we really need new platform just for these small settings compared to what else is needed to build..
Like direct tools to resolve all issues small and big...
and moral Codes correct ones that will know how to deal with wrong kind of feed people..
if u not hear me
Ethan Zuckerman..then this time it will be quantum times whorst then You pop-up good plan gone terrible (okey not jet so much as they will take this to turn next bad more horrific step if wasted time on so small improvements...as they see..what will be next wish..and to keep it away new direction will be decided soon...so we got to do it before...really)
//can we count up how many viruses and other nerves, happened thanks to popup...well..unplanned new next step in social age, can go more...well, with this name of a project you will not get so far anyway but..
better to take mis on and make better,
but if not much coming, then still, good that this at least comes You do...
liked the direction about people who like to become smarter..
well, this has been elementary core of many ideas, just...do we make all other needed solutions also, eliminate copyright for example and protect world by eliminate gangs and evil planners in long run?
Like direct tools to resolve all issues small and big...
and moral Codes correct ones that will know how to deal with wrong kind of feed people..
if u not hear me
Ethan Zuckerman..then this time it will be quantum times whorst then You pop-up good plan gone terrible (okey not jet so much as they will take this to turn next bad more horrific step if wasted time on so small improvements...as they see..what will be next wish..and to keep it away new direction will be decided soon...so we got to do it before...really)
//can we count up how many viruses and other nerves, happened thanks to popup...well..unplanned new next step in social age, can go more...well, with this name of a project you will not get so far anyway but..
better to take mis on and make better,
but if not much coming, then still, good that this at least comes You do...
liked the direction about people who like to become smarter..
well, this has been elementary core of many ideas, just...do we make all other needed solutions also, eliminate copyright for example and protect world by eliminate gangs and evil planners in long run?
10 February 2018 18:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
international machine technology..
//
"I think it’s wholly unrealistic in the United States. It’s something that could be realistic in Europe, [where] you have a public media culture that accepts the idea that you might want to invest money in people having some basic knowledge about politics, the world, the people around them. I could imagine an innovative European public broadcaster saying, “Maybe we build a social network that’s compatible with other social networks, has algorithms designed to help you tune whether you’re getting news about the world, news about your community, and makes those levers visible and controllable.”
//
"I think it’s wholly unrealistic in the United States. It’s something that could be realistic in Europe, [where] you have a public media culture that accepts the idea that you might want to invest money in people having some basic knowledge about politics, the world, the people around them. I could imagine an innovative European public broadcaster saying, “Maybe we build a social network that’s compatible with other social networks, has algorithms designed to help you tune whether you’re getting news about the world, news about your community, and makes those levers visible and controllable.”
10 February 2018 17:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Tribute to IMT as well:
https://www.facebook.com/technologyreview/posts/10156072328989798
Me too, years ago.. still do :)
// well not mee too in bad way
Manage
This is elemetary, but do we stop JUST here???
seems my old meditation had some fruits:
"But social networks like Facebook and Twitter control, or at least direct, the information we see by using algorithms to filter what we see in our feed. You worked with two colleagues—Chelsea Barabas of MIT’s Center for Civic Media and Neha Narula at the Media Lab—to build a tool called Gobo that lets people aggregate and filter their feeds on their own. Why?
What this is meant to do is to say, “Look, it’s really a mistake to give one or two companies control over our digital public sphere.” Instead, we need competing platforms. We’re trying to make the case that you want those different social networks because you want more control over your filters about what you see and what you don’t see.
If we need competing platforms, we need tools that would let us use those competing platforms. Gobo is one of those tools. Gobo is an aggregator. It aggregates Twitter and the “aggregateable” parts of Facebook—the public pages."
"So first we built the aggregator. And then we built the algorithms [that determine which posts you’ll see]. And rather than making them a top-secret black box, we made it an open box where you can reach in and set the sliders and experiment and say, “Oh, I like how this works. Now let me change it this way and see if it works better for me.”
Where we want to get in the longer term is even more of an open box; we built Gobo so that other people can write filters for it."<
Manage
did they realize, what will happen with the gogo thingy when over night FB implements new back end with new settings?
// like "settings based on this or that theory"
Manage
now we do not have to, but soon can and will if needed to
https://www.facebook.com/technologyreview/posts/10156072328989798
Me too, years ago.. still do :)
// well not mee too in bad way
Manage
This is elemetary, but do we stop JUST here???
seems my old meditation had some fruits:
"But social networks like Facebook and Twitter control, or at least direct, the information we see by using algorithms to filter what we see in our feed. You worked with two colleagues—Chelsea Barabas of MIT’s Center for Civic Media and Neha Narula at the Media Lab—to build a tool called Gobo that lets people aggregate and filter their feeds on their own. Why?
What this is meant to do is to say, “Look, it’s really a mistake to give one or two companies control over our digital public sphere.” Instead, we need competing platforms. We’re trying to make the case that you want those different social networks because you want more control over your filters about what you see and what you don’t see.
If we need competing platforms, we need tools that would let us use those competing platforms. Gobo is one of those tools. Gobo is an aggregator. It aggregates Twitter and the “aggregateable” parts of Facebook—the public pages."
"So first we built the aggregator. And then we built the algorithms [that determine which posts you’ll see]. And rather than making them a top-secret black box, we made it an open box where you can reach in and set the sliders and experiment and say, “Oh, I like how this works. Now let me change it this way and see if it works better for me.”
Where we want to get in the longer term is even more of an open box; we built Gobo so that other people can write filters for it."<
Manage
did they realize, what will happen with the gogo thingy when over night FB implements new back end with new settings?
// like "settings based on this or that theory"
Manage
now we do not have to, but soon can and will if needed to
10 February 2018 17:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
now we do not have to, but soon can and will if needed to
10 February 2018 17:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
did they realize, what will happen with the gogo thingy when over night FB implements new back end with new settings?
// like "settings based on this or that theory"
// like "settings based on this or that theory"
10 February 2018 17:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
This is elemetary, but do we stop JUST here???
seems my old meditation had some fruits:
"But social networks like Facebook and Twitter control, or at least direct, the information we see by using algorithms to filter what we see in our feed. You worked with two colleagues—Chelsea Barabas of MIT’s Center for Civic Media and Neha Narula at the Media Lab—to build a tool called Gobo that lets people aggregate and filter their feeds on their own. Why?
What this is meant to do is to say, “Look, it’s really a mistake to give one or two companies control over our digital public sphere.” Instead, we need competing platforms. We’re trying to make the case that you want those different social networks because you want more control over your filters about what you see and what you don’t see.
If we need competing platforms, we need tools that would let us use those competing platforms. Gobo is one of those tools. Gobo is an aggregator. It aggregates Twitter and the “aggregateable” parts of Facebook—the public pages."
"So first we built the aggregator. And then we built the algorithms [that determine which posts you’ll see]. And rather than making them a top-secret black box, we made it an open box where you can reach in and set the sliders and experiment and say, “Oh, I like how this works. Now let me change it this way and see if it works better for me.”
Where we want to get in the longer term is even more of an open box; we built Gobo so that other people can write filters for it."<
seems my old meditation had some fruits:
"But social networks like Facebook and Twitter control, or at least direct, the information we see by using algorithms to filter what we see in our feed. You worked with two colleagues—Chelsea Barabas of MIT’s Center for Civic Media and Neha Narula at the Media Lab—to build a tool called Gobo that lets people aggregate and filter their feeds on their own. Why?
What this is meant to do is to say, “Look, it’s really a mistake to give one or two companies control over our digital public sphere.” Instead, we need competing platforms. We’re trying to make the case that you want those different social networks because you want more control over your filters about what you see and what you don’t see.
If we need competing platforms, we need tools that would let us use those competing platforms. Gobo is one of those tools. Gobo is an aggregator. It aggregates Twitter and the “aggregateable” parts of Facebook—the public pages."
"So first we built the aggregator. And then we built the algorithms [that determine which posts you’ll see]. And rather than making them a top-secret black box, we made it an open box where you can reach in and set the sliders and experiment and say, “Oh, I like how this works. Now let me change it this way and see if it works better for me.”
Where we want to get in the longer term is even more of an open box; we built Gobo so that other people can write filters for it."<
10 February 2018 17:40
Margus Meigo commented on MIT Technology Review's post.
Me to, years ago.. still do :)
10 February 2018 17:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
How even high-est level women can be forced with love manipulation to give away soul
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elementary parallel with today world when understood what means from to be dependent from jobs that eventually can go,
will it be you or you child is best you can see
avoid, and to stay in system work?
Or un-guarded places/lands ("hippy-farmer" way) that can be bought away?
Well... elementary..()
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elementary parallel with today world when understood what means from to be dependent from jobs that eventually can go,
will it be you or you child is best you can see
avoid, and to stay in system work?
Or un-guarded places/lands ("hippy-farmer" way) that can be bought away?
Well... elementary..()
10 February 2018 17:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 February 2018 17:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 February 2018 17:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
nu kus on vahe ja kus on koos
10 February 2018 14:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
onju kui ära likvideerida,
või aitab see siin asju rohkem siduda, ja maailm läheb viltuse poole... siis mine tea,
siis niisama messengeris mitte siia ää vasta
kui aga maail läheb paremuse poole igal juhul, siis otse siin räääkida,
Oih nüüd tuli meelde, et tunneksid muud moodi ka ju äää :D
või aitab see siin asju rohkem siduda, ja maailm läheb viltuse poole... siis mine tea,
siis niisama messengeris mitte siia ää vasta
kui aga maail läheb paremuse poole igal juhul, siis otse siin räääkida,
Oih nüüd tuli meelde, et tunneksid muud moodi ka ju äää :D
10 February 2018 14:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see olek snagu normaalne privaatsus tase
10 February 2018 14:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
et need ju kõik elementaarne,
Varem või hiljem kelle iganespoolt loetavad, koikide inimeste mis iganes olukorda sattunute oma neile kellele ajutiselt võib minna vaja
seega ma eeldan, et privaatsus üleüldikne kiiks ka, ja muidugi jääb muje, nagu privaatsus oleks mingite teatud ühiskonna inimeste hääle maha surumiseks tehtud,
senikaua kui rääkimist hoitakse sellises positsioonis nagu, et koikide telefonist telerini vaadatav ja kasutav oleks ülevaade ikkagi olemas elementaarse osas enamusele,
et ühiskond teaks reguleerida üksteist paika, ainuüksi selleks jua hea,
heas mõttes noh,
palju muud head ka, areneda ja olla saab kui headuse suunaline ja privaatsuse kiiksuta (ehk enamuste seadmed võiks olla inimeste kohta keda kirjeldate kus iganes, saadaval kus kogu infovahetus ja tegemised, plaanid eluks ja ideed miks ta elus ja kellega teeb koostööd sellest mis näha ja teada )
Varem või hiljem kelle iganespoolt loetavad, koikide inimeste mis iganes olukorda sattunute oma neile kellele ajutiselt võib minna vaja
seega ma eeldan, et privaatsus üleüldikne kiiks ka, ja muidugi jääb muje, nagu privaatsus oleks mingite teatud ühiskonna inimeste hääle maha surumiseks tehtud,
senikaua kui rääkimist hoitakse sellises positsioonis nagu, et koikide telefonist telerini vaadatav ja kasutav oleks ülevaade ikkagi olemas elementaarse osas enamusele,
et ühiskond teaks reguleerida üksteist paika, ainuüksi selleks jua hea,
heas mõttes noh,
palju muud head ka, areneda ja olla saab kui headuse suunaline ja privaatsuse kiiksuta (ehk enamuste seadmed võiks olla inimeste kohta keda kirjeldate kus iganes, saadaval kus kogu infovahetus ja tegemised, plaanid eluks ja ideed miks ta elus ja kellega teeb koostööd sellest mis näha ja teada )
10 February 2018 14:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 February 2018 13:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Samal ajal:
Human Design süsteemi tutvustus
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http://www.taevasjamaa.ee/human-d/
Human Design süsteemi tutvustus
Public · Hosted by Maa ja Taeva heaolukeskus
https://www.facebook.com/events/142455799768929
http://www.taevasjamaa.ee/human-d/
From 10 February 2018 14:00 to 10 February 2018 15:00
10 February 2018 13:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Russel final interview with a wife, values in gender roles that are basic 1:1 to Estonia culture (surely before invaders, many colors and kinds) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFt6XRyQhD8
Kelle vööl oli aida võti?
But we managed to keep our number's kind of.. just do we manage to wake up now and restore most basic, of who we are, and return in the only time for now that we ever have seen in history,
where it is possible in so many ways, most easy'est : doe snot matter, that tech is most advanced ..we should not worry, as this tech infects us less then the ones who are bonded with it, we more about tuning our self BY THE ones who are infected by de-evolving ways, we degrade our self by our hear wish to be calm and friendly, serving for a world and humble in desires... but we must look... not to measure our way's by the "average", as these who are produced to downgrade average are not the ones we should put in equal equation with our own needs that we know everyone proper is in actual need,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFt6XRyQhD8
Kelle vööl oli aida võti?
But we managed to keep our number's kind of.. just do we manage to wake up now and restore most basic, of who we are, and return in the only time for now that we ever have seen in history,
where it is possible in so many ways, most easy'est : doe snot matter, that tech is most advanced ..we should not worry, as this tech infects us less then the ones who are bonded with it, we more about tuning our self BY THE ones who are infected by de-evolving ways, we degrade our self by our hear wish to be calm and friendly, serving for a world and humble in desires... but we must look... not to measure our way's by the "average", as these who are produced to downgrade average are not the ones we should put in equal equation with our own needs that we know everyone proper is in actual need,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFt6XRyQhD8
10 February 2018 13:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and hey, nothing to investigate here...
not what was inside fluid... not who wiped computer...not who drugged guy before... and not the guy's who call him out in last time and who's place him rested last...
Move along, nothing to see in here..
"Two days before he died, Max Spiers allegedly told her: "Your boy's in trouble. If anything happens to me, investigate."
Ms Bates, 63, told the Daily Mail that when she was given her dead son's laptop computer, it had been wiped, adding to her suspicions."
// in memory and for learning from another mistakes
not what was inside fluid... not who wiped computer...not who drugged guy before... and not the guy's who call him out in last time and who's place him rested last...
Move along, nothing to see in here..
"Two days before he died, Max Spiers allegedly told her: "Your boy's in trouble. If anything happens to me, investigate."
Ms Bates, 63, told the Daily Mail that when she was given her dead son's laptop computer, it had been wiped, adding to her suspicions."
// in memory and for learning from another mistakes
10 February 2018 12:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Celebrate the magic in us and..
10 February 2018 12:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Is more easy to see Divine // if you want to see truth compared to rest of the pack. We go working up to the end not hoping, that someone is ending it for us
" We're a ship without a storm
Cold without the warm
Light inside the darkness lit at peace
We're a laugh without a tear
Hope without the fear
We are coming home
We're off to the witch
We may never never never come home
But the magic that we'll feel is worth a lifetime
We're all thrown upon the cross
We'll be thrown before the toss
You can release yourself but the only way is down
We don't come alone
We are fire we are stone
We're the hand that writes and quickly moves away
We'll know for the first time
If we're evil or divine
We're the last in line, yeah
We're the last in line
Two eyes from the east
It's the angel of the beast
And the answer lies between all good and bad
We search for the truth
We could die upon the tooth
But the thrill of just the chase is worth the pain
We'll know for the first time
If we're evil or divine
We're the last in line yeah
We're the last in line oh
Yeah
We're off to the witch
We may never never never come home
But the magic that we'll feel is worth a lifetime
We're all thrown upon the cross
We'll be thrown before the toss
You can release yourself but the only way is down
We'll know for the first time
If we're evil or divine
We're the last in line oh
We're the last in line
See how we shine
We're the last in line
We're a ship without a storm
We're cold inside the warm
We're the last without a tear
We're the throw without the meal
(We're the last in line)
See how we shine
We're the last in line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yPiAMgYxEc
" We're a ship without a storm
Cold without the warm
Light inside the darkness lit at peace
We're a laugh without a tear
Hope without the fear
We are coming home
We're off to the witch
We may never never never come home
But the magic that we'll feel is worth a lifetime
We're all thrown upon the cross
We'll be thrown before the toss
You can release yourself but the only way is down
We don't come alone
We are fire we are stone
We're the hand that writes and quickly moves away
We'll know for the first time
If we're evil or divine
We're the last in line, yeah
We're the last in line
Two eyes from the east
It's the angel of the beast
And the answer lies between all good and bad
We search for the truth
We could die upon the tooth
But the thrill of just the chase is worth the pain
We'll know for the first time
If we're evil or divine
We're the last in line yeah
We're the last in line oh
Yeah
We're off to the witch
We may never never never come home
But the magic that we'll feel is worth a lifetime
We're all thrown upon the cross
We'll be thrown before the toss
You can release yourself but the only way is down
We'll know for the first time
If we're evil or divine
We're the last in line oh
We're the last in line
See how we shine
We're the last in line
We're a ship without a storm
We're cold inside the warm
We're the last without a tear
We're the throw without the meal
(We're the last in line)
See how we shine
We're the last in line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yPiAMgYxEc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yPiAMgYxEc
10 February 2018 12:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
"Holy Diver is the debut studio album by American heavy metal band Dio, released in 1983. Vocalist Ronnie James Dio had just finished his first tenure in Black Sabbath, whose drummer Vinny Appice he took with him to put together his own band. The roster was completed by his former band mate in Rainbow Jimmy Bain .."
"Holy Diver
You've been down too long in the midnight sea
Oh what's becoming of me
Ride the tiger
You can see his stripes but you know he's clean
Oh don't you see what I mean
Gotta get away
Holy Diver
Got!
Shiny diamonds
Like the eyes of a cat in the black and blue
Something is coming for you
Look out!
Race for the morning
You can hide in the sun 'till you see the light
Oh we will pray it's all right
Gotta get away
Get away
Between the velvet lies
There's a truth that's hard as steel
Yeah!
The vision never dies
Life's a never ending wheel
Say!
Holy Diver
You're the star of the masquerade
No need to look so afraid
Jump, jump!
Jump on the tiger
You can feel his heart but you know he's mean
Some light can never be seen
Yeah!
Holy Diver
You've been down too long in the midnight sea
Oh what's becoming of me
No, no!
Ride the tiger
You can see his stripes but you know he's clean
Oh don't you see what I mean
Gotta get away
Get away
Gotta get away
Get away, yeah
Holy Diver
Sole Survivor
You're the one who's clean
Holy Diver
Holy Diver
There a cat in the blue comin' after for you
Holy Diver
Oh Holy Diver
Yeah, alright!
Get away, get away, get away
Holy Diver
Holy Diver
Holy Diver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxYQo43dw00
"Holy Diver
You've been down too long in the midnight sea
Oh what's becoming of me
Ride the tiger
You can see his stripes but you know he's clean
Oh don't you see what I mean
Gotta get away
Holy Diver
Got!
Shiny diamonds
Like the eyes of a cat in the black and blue
Something is coming for you
Look out!
Race for the morning
You can hide in the sun 'till you see the light
Oh we will pray it's all right
Gotta get away
Get away
Between the velvet lies
There's a truth that's hard as steel
Yeah!
The vision never dies
Life's a never ending wheel
Say!
Holy Diver
You're the star of the masquerade
No need to look so afraid
Jump, jump!
Jump on the tiger
You can feel his heart but you know he's mean
Some light can never be seen
Yeah!
Holy Diver
You've been down too long in the midnight sea
Oh what's becoming of me
No, no!
Ride the tiger
You can see his stripes but you know he's clean
Oh don't you see what I mean
Gotta get away
Get away
Gotta get away
Get away, yeah
Holy Diver
Sole Survivor
You're the one who's clean
Holy Diver
Holy Diver
There a cat in the blue comin' after for you
Holy Diver
Oh Holy Diver
Yeah, alright!
Get away, get away, get away
Holy Diver
Holy Diver
Holy Diver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxYQo43dw00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxYQo43dw00
10 February 2018 12:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 February 2018 11:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 February 2018 11:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
" Don't talk to strangers hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm
Don't talk to strangers
'cause they're only there to do you harm
Don't write in starlight
'cause the words may come out real
Don't hide in doorways
you may find the key that opens up your soul
Don't go to heaven
'cause it's really only hell
Don't smell the flowers
they're an evil drug to make you loose your mind
Don't dream of women
'cause they'll only bring you down
Hey, you, you know me
you can touch me -- I'm real
I'm forever the one that lets you look and see
Can you feel me?
I'm danger, I'm the stranger
And I, I need darkness
I'm air, I'm been framed
I'm the master
the evil song you sing inside your brain
drive you insane
Don't talk
don't let them inside your mind yeah
run away, run away, go
No, no, don't let them in your mind or catch your soul
Don't dance in darkness
you may stumble and you're sure to fall
Don't write in starlight
'cause the words may come out real
Don't talk to strangers
'cause they're only there to make you sad
Don't dream of women
'cause they'll only bring you down yeah
Run, run, run, run away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXHd-nsw6XY
Don't talk to strangers
'cause they're only there to do you harm
Don't write in starlight
'cause the words may come out real
Don't hide in doorways
you may find the key that opens up your soul
Don't go to heaven
'cause it's really only hell
Don't smell the flowers
they're an evil drug to make you loose your mind
Don't dream of women
'cause they'll only bring you down
Hey, you, you know me
you can touch me -- I'm real
I'm forever the one that lets you look and see
Can you feel me?
I'm danger, I'm the stranger
And I, I need darkness
I'm air, I'm been framed
I'm the master
the evil song you sing inside your brain
drive you insane
Don't talk
don't let them inside your mind yeah
run away, run away, go
No, no, don't let them in your mind or catch your soul
Don't dance in darkness
you may stumble and you're sure to fall
Don't write in starlight
'cause the words may come out real
Don't talk to strangers
'cause they're only there to make you sad
Don't dream of women
'cause they'll only bring you down yeah
Run, run, run, run away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXHd-nsw6XY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXHd-nsw6XY
10 February 2018 11:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 February 2018 11:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Remember, the Max Spiers... words about heart..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-34jZCNtfI or maybe it was another lecture one of the last one.. (but he should not have picked on Dark with arrogance, like telling "their magic is wack"..as they was just testing in soft way.. how to what is responded.. so when real deal is then .. would be for sure, as it was: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Max_Spiers (the moder words was invented, to discredit reality away from most people mind..poisoning is not indoctrination..he would newer take these kind of things..) // not related in full spectrum to it.. but just most nearest point to pull it along ....
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/max-spiers-conspiracy-theorist-vomit-black-fluid-death-inquest-coroner-canterbury-a7478786.html )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-34jZCNtfI or maybe it was another lecture one of the last one.. (but he should not have picked on Dark with arrogance, like telling "their magic is wack"..as they was just testing in soft way.. how to what is responded.. so when real deal is then .. would be for sure, as it was: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Max_Spiers (the moder words was invented, to discredit reality away from most people mind..poisoning is not indoctrination..he would newer take these kind of things..) // not related in full spectrum to it.. but just most nearest point to pull it along ....
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/max-spiers-conspiracy-theorist-vomit-black-fluid-death-inquest-coroner-canterbury-a7478786.html )
10 February 2018 11:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
arvatavati muud nimed olid ka esindatud, kuid eip järginud
10 February 2018 10:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuldvillaku talimängude erisaate võitis Marko,
Margusel jäi 5e alles mis suht reaalsust kajastav :p
Margusel jäi 5e alles mis suht reaalsust kajastav :p
10 February 2018 10:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nu proovi siis mitte märgata :DS
10 February 2018 10:40
Margus Meigo replied to Alexander Spencer's comment.
Eliahi Priest it's not about him
10 February 2018 08:35
Margus Meigo replied to Alexander Spencer's comment.
Forget the tools that make people to forget?
Forget the methods that make people to understand opposite?
Forget the tech that make people to not see?
Forget that all three, is needed for someone for full usage for the ones Who are used..besides natural few rare ones, who are kept with fear and power game...few they keep who would keep opposition alive, so they can use the opposition for opposite brain programming
We must take in to account elementary, as this what i just told before being happy about (judge others about) what we know, see and remember
Forget the methods that make people to understand opposite?
Forget the tech that make people to not see?
Forget that all three, is needed for someone for full usage for the ones Who are used..besides natural few rare ones, who are kept with fear and power game...few they keep who would keep opposition alive, so they can use the opposition for opposite brain programming
We must take in to account elementary, as this what i just told before being happy about (judge others about) what we know, see and remember
10 February 2018 08:34
Margus Meigo replied to Alexander Spencer's comment.
well, most people in world, and majority in up there star life , are not interested of conspiracies and something, that is explained away with 5 minute simple presentation a someones public stunt against them ...so might be, that most who co-operate have no idea, with who, as long they are just used and not called in inner circle without masks,
or rather, these party we should say: with masks
Eyes wide shut...appropriate name also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_b-zpSnoHs
or rather, these party we should say: with masks
Eyes wide shut...appropriate name also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_b-zpSnoHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_b-zpSnoHs
10 February 2018 08:26
Margus Meigo commented on Eliahi Priest's photo.
10 February 2018 08:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid kui üldse, siis pigem aitab mõlemale kaasa, südamerahule /kui seda oeks( sest ei pea mõtlema kaduvale, teades, nad nii hästi kui saavad
ja... siis....
ja... siis....
10 February 2018 08:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eks ainult seda südamerahu saan teha, et seelst maailmas siiamaailma, tutavatele saata heaelu kindlustust, kuid ega see ei privilileegi nende alleshoidmist projakeeriate silmis, ega minugi oma mitte
10 February 2018 08:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
liiga kaarm, et otse väljaöelda, kuid kes nii kaugele jõudnud, loeb ise ja vaatab,
kuid siis kui kõik surevad, kavad, ei panta tähele ega saada aru, kes pääsenud või kuidas...suhlused juba enne inimestevahel närbuvad
kuid siis kui kõik surevad, kavad, ei panta tähele ega saada aru, kes pääsenud või kuidas...suhlused juba enne inimestevahel närbuvad
10 February 2018 08:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
healjuhul, ehk mis saan abiks uuele maailmale olla, on algorytme aidata rakendada, mis eri väärtustega, paneelidesse v raskesse maaolukorda ..et mis moodi märgistada ja ermoodusel noid neist keskondadest väljavõtta ja ülejäänudele jäääb teadmine, nagu x files viimase hooaja DNA plaanide osas see projekt mis avalikuks tuli
10 February 2018 08:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
maksimum vaja vast osade spermade ja osade kasvatus/sünnituste
tarvis, selleks aga neid inkupaatoreid ja spermdoonoreid pole vaja hoida, kahjustavas elutegevuses,
tarvis, selleks aga neid inkupaatoreid ja spermdoonoreid pole vaja hoida, kahjustavas elutegevuses,
10 February 2018 08:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
node silmis suur osa inimesi, hingamisaparaadi all hoitakse kunni ükshaaval nagunii kõdunevad healjuhul.... ja et nad muetsema peavad, et seda energiat käimas hoiumas, sammma aeg kuinod inimesed enamus lihtsalt tarbivad loodust ja ajavad paha haisu välja
10 February 2018 08:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hmm..ilma südameta asjad päris karmid tunduvad, täitsa saan aru nüüd nendest ülemistest
10 February 2018 08:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja pealegi... seda mass tootlust... neile inimestele kes valitsejate arvates ei tooda tuleviku tarvis muud kui iseeebda tarbimiseks...
mis vabandusel seda edasi hoida
mis vabandusel seda edasi hoida
10 February 2018 08:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
müüd vist kuskilt midagi ülereageerin, kuid vb ei pea ka, sest tulemus ju on Lootusetu
öeldakse, et see viimasena läheb, kuid mis mul sellest, lähen edasi ilma lootuse ja kõike muud mida pole
hingetuna?
vot ei pea kas see hing või tunde tekitused keemia ja AiI ga... ega seda tehno-Loogiat liiga alahinnata ka eip tasu
ja kuigi kunagi öeldi, ühe targeima ennustus-nägia-tundia läbi,
et Selle elu misioon mul on õppida ennast integreerima tavainimeste elurütmi ja maailma......siis milleks kui ma näen, et sinna sohu kukkutes, võrku kinni jäädes, ise enam selllest välja ei rabele, va. üksikud keda me filmidest vaatame või keda me ei tea, kes sala aitas... et teistele orjadele eluinspiratsiooni anda
ma olen piisavalt tundnud ja arusaanud tavainimese elu orjusest kes maaelust ning teadmistest loobunud ja paneelmajas...
...toodangu mutrijupina oodates kuni nagu hobune..nii ka neid varsti unustatakse, sest mida nad enamus teevad oma põhiajast, mida maailmal alatiseks vaja on ja mida robotid tulevikulised teha ei suudaks, eriti kui nad igakeelsed, iga infolised, näoilmeid imiteerivad-tekitatavad vastavalt sõnade sisule mille kohta üksipulgi info neil pandud..
öeldakse, et see viimasena läheb, kuid mis mul sellest, lähen edasi ilma lootuse ja kõike muud mida pole
hingetuna?
vot ei pea kas see hing või tunde tekitused keemia ja AiI ga... ega seda tehno-Loogiat liiga alahinnata ka eip tasu
ja kuigi kunagi öeldi, ühe targeima ennustus-nägia-tundia läbi,
et Selle elu misioon mul on õppida ennast integreerima tavainimeste elurütmi ja maailma......siis milleks kui ma näen, et sinna sohu kukkutes, võrku kinni jäädes, ise enam selllest välja ei rabele, va. üksikud keda me filmidest vaatame või keda me ei tea, kes sala aitas... et teistele orjadele eluinspiratsiooni anda
ma olen piisavalt tundnud ja arusaanud tavainimese elu orjusest kes maaelust ning teadmistest loobunud ja paneelmajas...
...toodangu mutrijupina oodates kuni nagu hobune..nii ka neid varsti unustatakse, sest mida nad enamus teevad oma põhiajast, mida maailmal alatiseks vaja on ja mida robotid tulevikulised teha ei suudaks, eriti kui nad igakeelsed, iga infolised, näoilmeid imiteerivad-tekitatavad vastavalt sõnade sisule mille kohta üksipulgi info neil pandud..
10 February 2018 07:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi hiljem on kuidas iganes, konto sisugi ju avalik...
kuid... ai urrrrhh... ikka paar olulist asja saatata tegemta veel jäid mis esile tekkisid... urh. ikka ei saa rahus punkti panna enneagselt kui hetkeks juba oli meeles, et saan
kuid... ai urrrrhh... ikka paar olulist asja saatata tegemta veel jäid mis esile tekkisid... urh. ikka ei saa rahus punkti panna enneagselt kui hetkeks juba oli meeles, et saan
10 February 2018 07:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 February 2018 07:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui ma neid asju ütlen ja plaanin siis mõtlen ikka päriselt mitte ei mängita
10 February 2018 07:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
10 February 2018 07:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
..et olla teisesilmis selliselt parem nagu ise enda peas ettekujutame, et hea oleks nii enda kui ümbritsevate mõttes.. .selleasemel et alluda tuunetele ja alistuda armule... ning otse inimeselt inimese südamesse täeie tõsisdusega
10 February 2018 07:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muide, viisakus on üks äärmiselt halb pikasplaanis ja peaaegu alati ebaviisakas/"ebahea asi,
see on siis kui ei väljendata mis on tegelik tunded ja plaan
see on siis kui ei väljendata mis on tegelik tunded ja plaan
10 February 2018 07:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid ma pean sutsu aega solvumist üleval hoidma et muidu kui reaalse tähenduse endasse lasta, et mida see tähendaks, Füüsilise maailma lõpp arusaamas, et kes ma siis oleks, kui ma "Piinaks" päriselt, see oleks liiga vlaus ja hävitav
ma võtan sõnu ju suht sõnasõnalt ja päriselt, ja kui ma miniskit valu sellisel tasemele inimesele nagu Sa peaks soovima siin kirjutmaisega teha... nu jeerum... suudad Sa üldse ette kujtuada, kes masiis olema peaks ja mida see tähendaks...
ma võtan sõnu ju suht sõnasõnalt ja päriselt, ja kui ma miniskit valu sellisel tasemele inimesele nagu Sa peaks soovima siin kirjutmaisega teha... nu jeerum... suudad Sa üldse ette kujtuada, kes masiis olema peaks ja mida see tähendaks...
10 February 2018 07:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hetkeks juba tekis parakas, et keegi teine Su eest kirjutab või Su eest kustutab Su vastuseid mul siia eri kohtadesse... kuid ei see pole nii.
see polnud mingi eriti tugev tunne ka nagu oleks, lihtsalt, et mis on reaalselt tavaline ja võimalik, mitmel eri põhjustel. kunagi kui filmini jõuan, siis selles saab selgitatud noid asju lihtsamini, kui ainult tekstis
see polnud mingi eriti tugev tunne ka nagu oleks, lihtsalt, et mis on reaalselt tavaline ja võimalik, mitmel eri põhjustel. kunagi kui filmini jõuan, siis selles saab selgitatud noid asju lihtsamini, kui ainult tekstis
10 February 2018 07:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muidugi eks See Su enda teha nüüd, et sa ei saa teavitusi selle kohta, et Sulle siia vastatakse, sest "sättis sätteid" et Sa ei saaks (minujaoks sa ei sättinud sätteid, et teised ei näeks, sest need sätted ma juba sättisin, ainult Korpernik..)
Kuid milline hea, napilt toimiv lahendus oli, et rahulikult, heas tujus edasi minna.. nu ja ma ise vabatahtlikult ka valisin solvumise ja ...
nu jah, lihtsalt vahest tunen et seda on õigus teha, kui nii rängalt eksitakse
Oleks seda keegi võõras ütlenud, nu siis naeratusega muhelema ajaks, kes mind ei saa ju teada, kuid see inimene, kes kõikidest kõige rohkem, on võimalus teada saada olnud..
ja siis sedasi ütelda nu jah...............
Kuid milline hea, napilt toimiv lahendus oli, et rahulikult, heas tujus edasi minna.. nu ja ma ise vabatahtlikult ka valisin solvumise ja ...
nu jah, lihtsalt vahest tunen et seda on õigus teha, kui nii rängalt eksitakse
Oleks seda keegi võõras ütlenud, nu siis naeratusega muhelema ajaks, kes mind ei saa ju teada, kuid see inimene, kes kõikidest kõige rohkem, on võimalus teada saada olnud..
ja siis sedasi ütelda nu jah...............
10 February 2018 07:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oleksin saanud hea emotsiooniga, mingigi arusaamani kogu selle kirjutmaisega jõudnud,
ja nüüd nagu ärkan hommikul ja ei...
ja nüüd nagu ärkan hommikul ja ei...
10 February 2018 07:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"äitah" ka, et vastust selle olulisema edasimineku küsimusele anda ei võinud :(
10 February 2018 07:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid minule suurele olulisele saavutusele, see asi kirja saada,
ja sellele vastust ootasin, ja seda Sa ei osanud anda,
kuid ei saaagi osata, kui Sa pole üenduses
ja sellele vastust ootasin, ja seda Sa ei osanud anda,
kuid ei saaagi osata, kui Sa pole üenduses
10 February 2018 07:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 February 2018 07:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Heaküll, Kui Sa nii arvad, siis pole midagi praegu rääkida.
Kas taham PIINATA? Ja Veel Sind, nu sellelausega väga kindel, et ma ei räägi Sinuga.. ja seega nägemist!
PS: Ei muutnud Sa neid sätteid mis minule siin nendes asjades loeks mille ma muutsin, privaatsus sätetest oli see postitus sedasi tehtud, et ainult valitud inimesed näeksid, selles osas oli see privaatne ja selles osas ma küsisin enne kuigi see oli mõeldud avalikuks viimaseks heataegaks, et järgmisele inimesele kellega koos olen, oleks aus võimalus edasiarengut näidata ning et keegi ei saaks jälle mingit uut vale ja süüdistust välja mõelda,
eelkõige aga oli plaanis veel mitut head teha ja Sind eeskujuks tuua kui inimest kes saab rahulikult, selgemõistuslikult, südamnlikult aru
ja kes võimeline nedest asjadest üleolema... ja väärikalt rääkima-vastama.
Kuid see kibestunud ennast väikseks tegev lause "kas keegi sind piinata tahab" ... nu see andis mõista jah, et See pole sina, praegu endaa ühenuses, see on kui ma hingede põhjal pigem suhtlen (ise väiksena) ja unustan ära mis olukorda maise keha pandud on..
Kas taham PIINATA? Ja Veel Sind, nu sellelausega väga kindel, et ma ei räägi Sinuga.. ja seega nägemist!
PS: Ei muutnud Sa neid sätteid mis minule siin nendes asjades loeks mille ma muutsin, privaatsus sätetest oli see postitus sedasi tehtud, et ainult valitud inimesed näeksid, selles osas oli see privaatne ja selles osas ma küsisin enne kuigi see oli mõeldud avalikuks viimaseks heataegaks, et järgmisele inimesele kellega koos olen, oleks aus võimalus edasiarengut näidata ning et keegi ei saaks jälle mingit uut vale ja süüdistust välja mõelda,
eelkõige aga oli plaanis veel mitut head teha ja Sind eeskujuks tuua kui inimest kes saab rahulikult, selgemõistuslikult, südamnlikult aru
ja kes võimeline nedest asjadest üleolema... ja väärikalt rääkima-vastama.
Kuid see kibestunud ennast väikseks tegev lause "kas keegi sind piinata tahab" ... nu see andis mõista jah, et See pole sina, praegu endaa ühenuses, see on kui ma hingede põhjal pigem suhtlen (ise väiksena) ja unustan ära mis olukorda maise keha pandud on..
10 February 2018 07:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
esimesed 5 sec,
järgmised...
sest kohe alguses ju küsitakse midagi millele ma muud kui tõde ju öelda ei saa... ja mõtle kuidas see kolab
järgmised...
sest kohe alguses ju küsitakse midagi millele ma muud kui tõde ju öelda ei saa... ja mõtle kuidas see kolab
9 February 2018 20:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
seega kuidas seda Uuele tuttavale algusest peale õigesti selgitada, et miks ja kuidas, milleks
nu kuigi see normaalne tegelikult, sedasi soovida, mu olukorras ikkagi, teades mida suudan juba enne tegemist... poleks õige siin isegi kahtlemiseks pikemalt peatuda,
nu kuigi see normaalne tegelikult, sedasi soovida, mu olukorras ikkagi, teades mida suudan juba enne tegemist... poleks õige siin isegi kahtlemiseks pikemalt peatuda,
9 February 2018 20:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid ka nad võimatud pigem, normaalsetel põhjustel, eeldan ja osati tean
9 February 2018 20:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kõige paremas järjekorras oleks aga ükskõik kellega neist kellega juba olnud, nad kõik suht supper,
Kuid kas ka se, on sobilik me maailmas, Nii normaalselt mõelda?
Kuid kas ka se, on sobilik me maailmas, Nii normaalselt mõelda?
9 February 2018 20:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mul FB ei luba editeid teha enam:
St. on see viisakas, õige, lubatud põhjus Naisega kohtumiseks, ennekõiki muid põhjuseid, et muidu ei saa ma oma elutöö teha
Kui aga Sind igatsen, siis lihtsalt, sest tunne on selline, isiklik sõprusvajadus
(+ isegi see mis öeldi, et milleks peaksime, ei kaalu seda tunnet üle kuid lisab kaalumatut kaalu, olulisust ka siis kui pole tundeid või soovi.. muidugi kui maruUsklik ennekõike...jumaltänatud, et ma pole, muidu kujutad ette milline raskus veel otsa oleks olenemata inimese elust)
muidugi soovin tundeid ja igatsus tekib iga õige Naisega kellele keskenduda saan
St. on see viisakas, õige, lubatud põhjus Naisega kohtumiseks, ennekõiki muid põhjuseid, et muidu ei saa ma oma elutöö teha
Kui aga Sind igatsen, siis lihtsalt, sest tunne on selline, isiklik sõprusvajadus
(+ isegi see mis öeldi, et milleks peaksime, ei kaalu seda tunnet üle kuid lisab kaalumatut kaalu, olulisust ka siis kui pole tundeid või soovi.. muidugi kui maruUsklik ennekõike...jumaltänatud, et ma pole, muidu kujutad ette milline raskus veel otsa oleks olenemata inimese elust)
muidugi soovin tundeid ja igatsus tekib iga õige Naisega kellele keskenduda saan
9 February 2018 20:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(see priv. praegu, ütle kui avalikuks võib teha, vestlus lihtsalt)
9 February 2018 20:14
Margus Meigo commented on Joosep Vau's photo.
Erinevalt suurest osast räpparitest võiks Sa päriselt ka paar meest õhku tõsta kuid pole kunagi kuulda, et selles osas üheski träkis hüppaks, humble power!
9 February 2018 18:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Full post: https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214107620941271
9 February 2018 18:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
avastasin ka ülihäid millel ainult 100+ kuulamist vms
eks aeg avõtab, et avastada
eks aeg avõtab, et avastada
9 February 2018 17:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
st erinevad hetked, erihetkedel parimad
9 February 2018 17:28
Margus Meigo commented on PKestonia's post.
Erinevatel hetkedel kompletidena, palju lihtsam valida oleks valvimat, siis peaks muidugi ka kõike kuulama ja pääevapaarine projekt...
kuid siis veel võimalik leida olek smiskit.. aga parimat..
sellise poeetilise geniaalse eepose mitmekülgse elujärjeloo kirjeldusest üks lugu välja valida...hmm...
kuid siis veel võimalik leida olek smiskit.. aga parimat..
sellise poeetilise geniaalse eepose mitmekülgse elujärjeloo kirjeldusest üks lugu välja valida...hmm...
9 February 2018 17:28
Margus Meigo commented on Maily Kerdo's post.
eriti loogikaviga suur ju,
oleks kas erinevat liiki laps ja inimesed, siis veel oleks arusaadav
oleks kas erinevat liiki laps ja inimesed, siis veel oleks arusaadav
9 February 2018 17:04
Margus Meigo commented on Maily Kerdo's post.
Tõsi tõsi
9 February 2018 16:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aaah....what there is to like..
9 February 2018 16:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
now another step, fb does not allow to edit my own comment,s, anywhere,
some time ago contact list managing was turned off.. then normal yt and text links was marked as spam .. wonder what else..
some time ago contact list managing was turned off.. then normal yt and text links was marked as spam .. wonder what else..
9 February 2018 15:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
it is precondition, impossible to be final evolution to reach when people live top of each other, for starters,
9 February 2018 15:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
these who make retarded Order justification their own failure and solution for chaos, as this is only thing for self preservation,
but to ask from Earth people, HOW to reconfigure without destruction... that they them self helped to rise by not taking proper responsibility for developing directions.
building more gray boxes and ..things that will not allow to evolve to final state what is meant to e for proper humans
but to ask from Earth people, HOW to reconfigure without destruction... that they them self helped to rise by not taking proper responsibility for developing directions.
building more gray boxes and ..things that will not allow to evolve to final state what is meant to e for proper humans
9 February 2018 14:59
Margus Meigo commented on Maxime Pierre Bobeuf's post.
I vote not for caos but less retarded order
9 February 2018 14:55
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Valter's comment.
nu aga on ikka aferist küll kes neid müüs kuid hea on selles, et tõi sellega teema ülesse, et selline sort üldse olemas on
9 February 2018 14:52
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Valter's comment.
Taavi Valter nu jah aga point selles, et need pole ju kuldrenetid ega nendega miskit pistmist,
et võltskuldrenetti nafd tegema eip hakka,
vatetada võib muidugi ka kartulaid müües, et need renetid ja sibulõunad
et võltskuldrenetti nafd tegema eip hakka,
vatetada võib muidugi ka kartulaid müües, et need renetid ja sibulõunad
9 February 2018 14:49
Margus Meigo replied to Marko Ka's comment.
Indrek Saviir seda ütleb varsti ka Türklane kui meie naist pruugib.. et " ... pruugin kasvõi 7t....."
9 February 2018 14:48
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Valter's comment.
aferistid kuuseotsa siduda, kuni kodutunde taju kasvama hakkab
9 February 2018 14:28
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Valter's comment.
Taavi Valter asoo
9 February 2018 14:27
Margus Meigo replied to Maxime Pierre Bobeuf's comment.
yes, this time it might be consistence and silliness,
but if that was let in air... what will stop next step.. where is the commission for that who is educated..
but if that was let in air... what will stop next step.. where is the commission for that who is educated..
9 February 2018 14:26
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Valter's comment.
ei nu vaevalt, et nad sünteetilisi kuldrenette tootma hakkavad niipea, tarbia valim kes teab, et sellised paradiisiviljad olemas on, on liialt väikesed, et isegi hakata riskima sellise maitse promomisega
9 February 2018 14:05
Margus Meigo replied to Maxime Pierre Bobeuf's comment.
in a framework of ordinary softer test... but inside tests another tests and porjects cna be hidden
9 February 2018 13:56
Margus Meigo replied to Maxime Pierre Bobeuf's comment.
first time i freaked, why in a world would they show on TV screen over country something like that...
then second time.. i another channel become more clear that paranoia feeling was not for nothing
just no idea how they.. i guess in digital TV they know what household was looking approximately
if they collect info what TV channel play in where...
old atenna system was imposisble to know who looked... in digital age..
then second time.. i another channel become more clear that paranoia feeling was not for nothing
just no idea how they.. i guess in digital TV they know what household was looking approximately
if they collect info what TV channel play in where...
old atenna system was imposisble to know who looked... in digital age..
9 February 2018 13:55
Margus Meigo replied to Maxime Pierre Bobeuf's comment.
there is running night time at least few secondary night channels now who is doing, it,
"advertising" some show about optical illusions and the one yesterday.. this one topped even the last one i saw
it was much more stronger then combination of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5GPO_EtU14
and this: https://youtu.be/eaa-_-aC0uc?t=158
--
running tests
"advertising" some show about optical illusions and the one yesterday.. this one topped even the last one i saw
it was much more stronger then combination of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5GPO_EtU14
and this: https://youtu.be/eaa-_-aC0uc?t=158
--
running tests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5GPO_EtU14
9 February 2018 12:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
in my view
9 February 2018 12:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
9 February 2018 12:08
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Simon's post.
Thanks!
9 February 2018 10:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nu see sisetunetus e hääl seesmisest sees pol ja samas uurena mis kõige enam ideed ja arusaama tuletab meelde Jehavast
9 February 2018 00:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
more resolutions soon
8 February 2018 23:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
viimane osa uuemas vesioonis kuna baasikasvamisele võtab aega
8 February 2018 22:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi aga kas arvate, ettuelviku laulude, MP3 setingute sees poel siis mudi tuuninguid, mis moodi nad otsstavad mis mood isu seade nende lalu mämgima peaks, mis on ettenähtud algne seting,
ja saad ka selle fature kõigil alguses enamselpool maha keerata, kuid eks saab ka olla neid kanaleid, kes ekslusiivselt mögnib ainult sedasi muusikat nagu algne disainer plaanis nende kõlarite max piires mis olemas on,
ja saad ka selle fature kõigil alguses enamselpool maha keerata, kuid eks saab ka olla neid kanaleid, kes ekslusiivselt mögnib ainult sedasi muusikat nagu algne disainer plaanis nende kõlarite max piires mis olemas on,
8 February 2018 22:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kudi see, et osad lauludd vahest lapi kovemad on, härib aegajat vast kõigerohkem
8 February 2018 22:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sellesosas mis kurta, vs võrreldes teistega kes otse ühendust pooldavad
8 February 2018 22:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja Marguse Raadiosaate plaan ka õpetuste osas mis nad sisi teevad ja mks
8 February 2018 22:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(õnneks oli viimane sõna neil piibitatud nendeenda poolt vast, kuid ikkagi.. kas saa selist vabadust lubada kui näiteks oleks kõige chillimad ja normimad inimesed? kas ka siis neile lubatud?)
//Jah endiselt pidage meeles, (eesti kaitse)
//Jah endiselt pidage meeles, (eesti kaitse)
8 February 2018 22:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
#AloTV's reklaam
8 February 2018 22:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mingi neti firma ütles, karu lodses näidates "meie ei asu kuski lakruP¤¤¤s!! pla pla midagi veel ja % on Levikom"
8 February 2018 22:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi ta võis meleega eneseohverdja olla, et näidta iniemstele mis juhtub kui oleks arengu ajal , kes neist ühestteiseliigub,
et ku ireaalselt ta oleks nähtav, siis mis faasid neil olema peaksid, et misk eesti rokkarid olid sellle nõs valikuks tegema... oot
et ku ireaalselt ta oleks nähtav, siis mis faasid neil olema peaksid, et misk eesti rokkarid olid sellle nõs valikuks tegema... oot
8 February 2018 22:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kle aga see bäng ol ihoopis suts väärakas vist ja mitte eriti ilusasti normaalne, kus mingi poolmees häält kägistab ja nagu oleks laulu konditsioonis
8 February 2018 22:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
või keegi kes oli nõus kaasa lööma ja ete näitama... vb mõni päris kultuur lasi ennast ära kasutada,
ja oli nõus mingit näidendit tegema, mille järgi need kes juba nullitud siis asusid seda endale ka integreerima,
ja oli nõus mingit näidendit tegema, mille järgi need kes juba nullitud siis asusid seda endale ka integreerima,
8 February 2018 22:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
FB feed otse ka vaadetav siit telekanali velikutest mis plaanin siia lisada oma kaasaitamisega tegijatele
8 February 2018 21:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
8 February 2018 21:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja nüüd ropp laul jälle, ajuterrorina mõjuv, potens
//ossa raks tajusin, esimesena tüestust vist kindlasti potensiaalselt aja lõikumist,
kus mingi füüsiliselt tehtud 2 asja korraga:
kustutamis mälust
ja füüsiliselt muutmist
tagasi keerates ja vähem infot olles ekraanil, kui see mis kirjutasid,
peale vilgsatust ja tunnetusst
//ossa raks tajusin, esimesena tüestust vist kindlasti potensiaalselt aja lõikumist,
kus mingi füüsiliselt tehtud 2 asja korraga:
kustutamis mälust
ja füüsiliselt muutmist
tagasi keerates ja vähem infot olles ekraanil, kui see mis kirjutasid,
peale vilgsatust ja tunnetusst
8 February 2018 21:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui hea oleks, ja kas sellised olema peavad, kes, lipsualkoga
8 February 2018 21:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi armas, peaks olema see siira lõpuga
8 February 2018 21:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
üksi ka
8 February 2018 21:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi eks mõnikord võib sellel sisu päriselt ka vaadata
//Nüüd normaalne Eestilaul jälle , sügavgi....
veider praegu, lipsuga mees poeb Naisele
//Nüüd normaalne Eestilaul jälle , sügavgi....
veider praegu, lipsuga mees poeb Naisele
8 February 2018 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see ei kolba irooniaks ka pahaks, nii halb kuid ihtsalt jama
8 February 2018 21:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vabandust, mitte Välisluure vaid kaitse Uuringute keskus.
Igaljuhul, tervendav hommik, Viisakas
Igaljuhul, tervendav hommik, Viisakas
8 February 2018 08:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid kelle projektid suuremad.. kellel suuremad õigused antud
8 February 2018 07:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oih... vabandust, Elon muski ja Robert Bigelow omavahel suts sassi ajasin esimese hooga
8 February 2018 07:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Oih vabandust, reageerisin liialt vist iroonilise naljapeale.
Kuid vahest jääb mulje, nagu unustama oleks hakatud, mis on MEIE iidsed väärtused ja olemus ja siis sellest saame lihtsalt tuletada, mis on välismaised ja tulnukalikud import väär-kultuurid kes siin planeedil ammusest ajast, sunniviisi ja meelitamiste kaudu, me maa naisi ja loodust ....
Kuid vahest jääb mulje, nagu unustama oleks hakatud, mis on MEIE iidsed väärtused ja olemus ja siis sellest saame lihtsalt tuletada, mis on välismaised ja tulnukalikud import väär-kultuurid kes siin planeedil ammusest ajast, sunniviisi ja meelitamiste kaudu, me maa naisi ja loodust ....
7 February 2018 11:37
Margus Meigo commented on Korporatsioon Rotalia's post.
Kas tõesti sobib selle planeedi ja kõikide kultuuride kõige sügavamate pervetiseeriate sellelaadset promo teha, ilma, et selgelt öeldud oleks, juhuslikudele pealejuhtujatele, et mis olenditega on tegu ja miks meiesugused taoliste ja ka lisaks muude Rrooma-Greeka kultuurinisade vastu ravimeid leidma peaksime, kui auväärsetena allesjääda soovime ?
Kahjuks on veel mitmeid kombeid, mis ka meieauväärsetel sügavalt sisse harjutatud ja mis pisara silma paneb
Kahjuks on veel mitmeid kombeid, mis ka meieauväärsetel sügavalt sisse harjutatud ja mis pisara silma paneb
7 February 2018 11:29
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
Interesting page/link, nice images and info
7 February 2018 10:06
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
These cultures will destruct them self who eat meat.
It is suicide in long term for sure
Besides rediculas waste and torture on nature
It is suicide in long term for sure
Besides rediculas waste and torture on nature
7 February 2018 10:02
Margus Meigo commented on Eerik N Kross's post.
Nagu Ilver ütles..Nu selles osas ta täitsa aus võis olla (faktiliselt..fokkina..jokina.....), ega ta sisuliseltei peagi teadma nendest saadetest midagi, lihtsalt teeb oma tööd mis ette kirjutatud .... kiirel mehel uusi kohustusi vaja minna täitma, pole aega oma loomingu tulemust ega platformi ümbritsevat infot ise üle vaadata.
7 February 2018 09:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
saad sisesettingutes veleriti peenelt tuunida, lisada Eesti phiseid reegleid selliselt, et isegi Delfit kõlbaks lugeda
7 February 2018 09:06
Margus Meigo commented on Eerik N Kross's post.
Selleks on: uBlock : pole juba ühtegi reklaami FB is aastaid näinud... : )
Lisaks see muudmoodi ka hea, kui reklaami tagaolevad serverid vähem infot saavad kes kus mida vaatab
Lisaks see muudmoodi ka hea, kui reklaami tagaolevad serverid vähem infot saavad kes kus mida vaatab
7 February 2018 09:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Eestlaste kolmnurk
oi sa raks, see 2016 :D
sry7 February 2018 05:39
Margus Meigo commented on Simo Kähari's post.
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Muidu kutid, üldiselt on igas linnas palju teha ja olla kui pappi või sopru või place on, Pol mõtet palju öelda, et siin või sääl linnas pole miskit teha,
kõvad isiksused oskavad luua ja teha igas kohas armastusega palju põnevat7 February 2018 05:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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nu miskitki Eesti muusikat ka ikkagi:p7 February 2018 05:30
Margus Meigo commented on Simo Kähari's post.
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Peaasi, et kõrvadetagant aetud soengud liiga moodi meie normaalses kultuuris eip arene
Kuid muusika tundub, et teile meeldib7 February 2018 05:29
Margus Meigo replied to Melissa Kasela's comment.
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pole vahet mitme milline korter... point on, et SINU "kodu" paari meetrikaugusel, paneelmüüi taga juba on kellegi teine ja karvane suvaline tegemine.... see pole erti norm ju, elukohana, lõplikuna, suuresplaanis, enamustele7 February 2018 05:29
Margus Meigo replied to Melissa Kasela's comment.
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eriptipalju vaikset metsakohinat ja niite sääl ju pole, et suuri mõtteid.. ja suurem osa iniesi elab üksteise otsas nagu...
mis seda ikka kommenterida, Eestlastel igatahes pole päris normaalne üksteise otsas elada, kui just ülivaesed polda.. .
see lihtsalt liialt orjalik7 February 2018 05:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(inimlikus mõttes eelkõige //just in case, correction :) )
7 February 2018 05:15
Margus Meigo commented on Litost Jeremias's photo.
Really nice!
"Could you find her?
The Emperor smiled and said:
You've settled her because the more I try to find her, the more I feel she's not there. It was just a shadow, which was there because I had never ventured inside. It was just my absence. I made myself present inside and disappeared."
"Could you find her?
The Emperor smiled and said:
You've settled her because the more I try to find her, the more I feel she's not there. It was just a shadow, which was there because I had never ventured inside. It was just my absence. I made myself present inside and disappeared."
7 February 2018 04:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
How You think, what people more advanced in multiple times, in human heart development, Egypt ancients or our originals
( :D) ...but true it is.. so many focus on Egypt - Mayans and kind of ..missing the point that true advanced ones does not leave trace in to nature of their presence )
( :D) ...but true it is.. so many focus on Egypt - Mayans and kind of ..missing the point that true advanced ones does not leave trace in to nature of their presence )
6 February 2018 20:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Maxime Pierre Bobeuf its Estonia one of the types conservative people music, folk with direct wartime generation connections -
[extra]
in songs what these generations possessed and did make them self ("penskarid" / )
Magic Mushrooms included, on same + other plants and levels of births that does not need shrooms but have to work daily to be out of knowledge (western world helps us with it a lot from hair-poisoning to forcing on us laws that we have to keep alive and untouched the ones who disrespect female and nature <-- or else them righteous protectors + "happenings" attack with full force with all means including using our own friends kids as shields-targets and inflating hearts to break someones else hearts and minds )
in near parallel (people types in usa):
near similar between War Veterans & aged Farmers generation in USA terms, with crisp Nordic native american influence (as we got 1/4 ice, we not afraid to use // but not carelessly on your own kind and on family, them who can be part of invisible and visible homecalmwarmness that is not advertised unneededly )
crisp Nordic native american: = Samis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qA7GDkKZJk
(NOT TO conFuce with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOvsyamoEDg these near-weird wikingkingly, they eat to much meat, alcohol even and man not so spiritual knowledge about deeper nature and respectful seriousness, just at best strong and smart in knowledge and sharm, curradge and with it comes lack of respect .
//i left the spellings wrong on some words, its ok,
..or rather, lack of understanding deepest respect levels in between all humans who pure, its possible for these kinds to be disrespectful to even Old and even more often against women for example, ....what kind of true Estonia minded final human or Sami, would be able to..?.ricking loss of love and honor can in Samiland also mean death if skills lacking, and when not lacking, so respectful for that it makes impossible to disrespect )
//will reexplain last sentence part if needed
but these kinds, in next clip, are fusion representation between crisp wikings and Nordic-Ugri / Pre. Estonians friendly culture...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHiU36GDaEA ((representation of fusion where wiking culture development is as ...as advanced final nature home vs. city )
now if u take these archetypes, (in music + descriptions)
and add to them same time
us america "country roads" music & this most awarded religious woman country-singer as 2in1 and + some extreme Nordic good-Crisp like Ice Queen like...
like...
hard to find some western equivalent from what i know (send me if you do) but like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDOR6HH_0gg
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2mx2lj (Yt hides it now..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmmUOpLQnLs (at-least up jet... soon maybe banned in another way as our kind them battle most deepest, as we keep rest of sanity alive, how, kind of long to explain,)
--
Locatons
http://www.taevaskoja.ee/taevaskoja-loodus/?lang=en
http://www.kaitseliit.ee/et/algamas-on-porgupohja-retk
also helps to keep mind dimension intact
--
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn6I0Byg83M this is also not so much in our culture core but perhaps fits with Lihtuania-Lätvia border more ..but my some family also from Teutonic Order - Commandery of Lithuania - okey, the order part jumped up on their own... but rather the ones who worry'ed how to keep any new gov version morals in highest cultural possible order with time-caps and history knowledge
to allow for others who can , move in time, to jug-a-dog-from-tail to better re-direction the world, by providing tools from it, this is also one of my works also to help with connection of tail and world )
[extra]
in songs what these generations possessed and did make them self ("penskarid" / )
Magic Mushrooms included, on same + other plants and levels of births that does not need shrooms but have to work daily to be out of knowledge (western world helps us with it a lot from hair-poisoning to forcing on us laws that we have to keep alive and untouched the ones who disrespect female and nature <-- or else them righteous protectors + "happenings" attack with full force with all means including using our own friends kids as shields-targets and inflating hearts to break someones else hearts and minds )
in near parallel (people types in usa):
near similar between War Veterans & aged Farmers generation in USA terms, with crisp Nordic native american influence (as we got 1/4 ice, we not afraid to use // but not carelessly on your own kind and on family, them who can be part of invisible and visible homecalmwarmness that is not advertised unneededly )
crisp Nordic native american: = Samis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qA7GDkKZJk
(NOT TO conFuce with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOvsyamoEDg these near-weird wikingkingly, they eat to much meat, alcohol even and man not so spiritual knowledge about deeper nature and respectful seriousness, just at best strong and smart in knowledge and sharm, curradge and with it comes lack of respect .
//i left the spellings wrong on some words, its ok,
..or rather, lack of understanding deepest respect levels in between all humans who pure, its possible for these kinds to be disrespectful to even Old and even more often against women for example, ....what kind of true Estonia minded final human or Sami, would be able to..?.ricking loss of love and honor can in Samiland also mean death if skills lacking, and when not lacking, so respectful for that it makes impossible to disrespect )
//will reexplain last sentence part if needed
but these kinds, in next clip, are fusion representation between crisp wikings and Nordic-Ugri / Pre. Estonians friendly culture...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHiU36GDaEA ((representation of fusion where wiking culture development is as ...as advanced final nature home vs. city )
now if u take these archetypes, (in music + descriptions)
and add to them same time
us america "country roads" music & this most awarded religious woman country-singer as 2in1 and + some extreme Nordic good-Crisp like Ice Queen like...
like...
hard to find some western equivalent from what i know (send me if you do) but like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDOR6HH_0gg
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2mx2lj (Yt hides it now..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmmUOpLQnLs (at-least up jet... soon maybe banned in another way as our kind them battle most deepest, as we keep rest of sanity alive, how, kind of long to explain,)
--
Locatons
http://www.taevaskoja.ee/taevaskoja-loodus/?lang=en
http://www.kaitseliit.ee/et/algamas-on-porgupohja-retk
also helps to keep mind dimension intact
--
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn6I0Byg83M this is also not so much in our culture core but perhaps fits with Lihtuania-Lätvia border more ..but my some family also from Teutonic Order - Commandery of Lithuania - okey, the order part jumped up on their own... but rather the ones who worry'ed how to keep any new gov version morals in highest cultural possible order with time-caps and history knowledge
to allow for others who can , move in time, to jug-a-dog-from-tail to better re-direction the world, by providing tools from it, this is also one of my works also to help with connection of tail and world )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qA7GDkKZJk
6 February 2018 20:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see aga küll: vanajumal, Ainujumal
6 February 2018 18:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//viimane küsimus otse ainult selles suunas, mida poiss naiselt küsib, See on siin minu kodu
iroonitsevad isegi kuuekallal kuid piisavalt alandavalt kuid pehme arvestava headusega
//arvestades mis lopsuunas nooled
//ja mida kuidas vaja fasaadina selditada, kokkuõmmelda, puhastada
iroonitsevad isegi kuuekallal kuid piisavalt alandavalt kuid pehme arvestava headusega
//arvestades mis lopsuunas nooled
//ja mida kuidas vaja fasaadina selditada, kokkuõmmelda, puhastada
6 February 2018 18:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 February 2018 17:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
6 February 2018 17:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T4r_fUDESU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T4r_fUDESU
6 February 2018 17:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
40%n from the half that is is gone, but the 20 that is left.. from that some parts can still recover and restore rest of the Life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaP6jUgFGkA&index=2&list=RDBP3wAfIIhAo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaP6jUgFGkA&index=2&list=RDBP3wAfIIhAo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaP6jUgFGkA&index=2&list=RDBP3wAfIIhAo
6 February 2018 17:41
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
need ained raldi inimestega sedasi toimivad , osad eksklusiivselt
6 February 2018 17:10
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Praegused parteid on osati rohelised, millel väärtuslik julge misjoon: https://www.facebook.com/helle777
6 February 2018 17:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lilika Ly nu kui Sa mulle meeldiv, siis ju loogiline oleks
6 February 2018 16:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Anatoli MP3me jutu teine pool ülemises lingis, päris terav ja infoline juba.
Muidu siin veel: "Ka ste ikka teate, et piim on imikute jook, see ei sobi vanadele inimestele?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dznfQtZOqfc
Muidu siin veel: "Ka ste ikka teate, et piim on imikute jook, see ei sobi vanadele inimestele?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dznfQtZOqfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dznfQtZOqfc
6 February 2018 16:34
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Kessel's link.
Eestis ka alla 30ndate register tehaks,e keda eri jälgimisele pannakse
6 February 2018 15:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
milles ennast ja teisi ka omakorda arendada tuleks, valesti arengut sundides on täpselt vastupidine tulemus
6 February 2018 15:56
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Kessel's link.
Mitte ei saa vaid peaks kohustuslik iga väärikal igimesel see arusaam olema, kui endast, teistest ja maailma loomingust hoolida.
moodused kuidas kohustada ja arendada ennast ja teisi, see aga on see ala mida
moodused kuidas kohustada ja arendada ennast ja teisi, see aga on see ala mida
6 February 2018 15:56
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
tunda aga tuleb pigem seda, soovitavalt, et mite seeni raisata, et MIKS võtta (et saaksid teistele kasulikum olla),
ja elementaarse arusaama, miks Jumal need asjad loodnud (et inimene saaks Jumala suunas ennast hoida - jumalat õigemini teenida),
Enamasti need seenemikud piisavalt targad, et piisab kui piibli / mõtte jumalaligi hoiad ja siis seente võtmisel, kõik muu t loksub õiges suunas paika, äärmiselt turvalised ja ohutud on need asjad võrreldes ohu ja ohtudega mis inimesi ähvardab kui neist asjadest eemal hoida, tänapäeva ühiskonnas veel eriti.
ja elementaarse arusaama, miks Jumal need asjad loodnud (et inimene saaks Jumala suunas ennast hoida - jumalat õigemini teenida),
Enamasti need seenemikud piisavalt targad, et piisab kui piibli / mõtte jumalaligi hoiad ja siis seente võtmisel, kõik muu t loksub õiges suunas paika, äärmiselt turvalised ja ohutud on need asjad võrreldes ohu ja ohtudega mis inimesi ähvardab kui neist asjadest eemal hoida, tänapäeva ühiskonnas veel eriti.
6 February 2018 15:52
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
seentega väga raske mööda panna,
protsendiliselt kindlasti sadades kordades väiksem oht kui oht alkoholi joomisel mööda panna kogustega,
ja eelkõige, alkohlist väga harva kui kasu tuleb kui seened ainumõttes kasulikuseks on Jumalalt otse loodud, inimese jaoks
protsendiliselt kindlasti sadades kordades väiksem oht kui oht alkoholi joomisel mööda panna kogustega,
ja eelkõige, alkohlist väga harva kui kasu tuleb kui seened ainumõttes kasulikuseks on Jumalalt otse loodud, inimese jaoks
6 February 2018 15:48
Margus Meigo replied to Mark Bennett's comment.
You mean a video, Youtube You loook ?
6 February 2018 15:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
Muidu võiks kokku saada, filosofeerida.
Strateegiaid planeerida, tarkust vahendada6 February 2018 15:07
Margus Meigo commented on Karmel Nilov's post.
Hmm, väga kenad ja asjalikud tunduvad!
6 February 2018 14:53
Margus Meigo commented on Elver Loho's post.
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Be aware - Pothead revenge :D6 February 2018 14:51
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's video.
Oi, Jaanus Toomsalu, peab ka Su asj uvaatama hakkama, kõigeenam Laigitud mees :p
6 February 2018 13:05
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
kui tal poleks habet, siis ta teeskleks, et on naine ju, see juba oleks alatu ja mõnitav
muidugi on habemega naisi ka.. kuigi jah, ma selle olevuse tausta ei ole palju uurida jõudnud, vb uurisin kergelt kunagi kuid jäi pooleni,
muidugi on habemega naisi ka.. kuigi jah, ma selle olevuse tausta ei ole palju uurida jõudnud, vb uurisin kergelt kunagi kuid jäi pooleni,
6 February 2018 13:02
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Thea Inno kujutad ette kui palju jubedam see oleks, kui tal habet poleks ? Siin vähemalt selge sõnum ja projekt kumab läbi.
Ma ta kohta uurinud ple, kas ta transvestiit ka või muidu Tiit, ja mis neil selle projekti mõte oli, kas naeruvääristada naist või tõestada inimkonnale inimkonna nõrka taset... või sallivuse test.. see selleks
Ja muide, tänapäeva maailmas, on paras kangelastegu ikka küll..sest habemete vastu on suurem osa naisi manipiuleeritud, selleks ,et naiste üle saaks paremat kontroll ihoida silutud nägudega meste läbi ja tulnkate läbi kellel puudub habemekasv, seega nad ei saaks siis inimeste sekka sulanduda oma koopiatega nii lihtsalt, see paras töö ikka reaalset isikulist habemet vältsida võrreldes lihtsa näofasaadiga
Ma ta kohta uurinud ple, kas ta transvestiit ka või muidu Tiit, ja mis neil selle projekti mõte oli, kas naeruvääristada naist või tõestada inimkonnale inimkonna nõrka taset... või sallivuse test.. see selleks
Ja muide, tänapäeva maailmas, on paras kangelastegu ikka küll..sest habemete vastu on suurem osa naisi manipiuleeritud, selleks ,et naiste üle saaks paremat kontroll ihoida silutud nägudega meste läbi ja tulnkate läbi kellel puudub habemekasv, seega nad ei saaks siis inimeste sekka sulanduda oma koopiatega nii lihtsalt, see paras töö ikka reaalset isikulist habemet vältsida võrreldes lihtsa näofasaadiga
6 February 2018 12:43
Margus Meigo commented on Aapo Ilves's post.
iialgi pole viinajoov parem,
viinajoomise tõttu meil ongi need mured mis on, nii valitsuses kui maal, sest see kasvatas terve vigase generatsiooni mis vanematest lahus
viinajoomise tõttu meil ongi need mured mis on, nii valitsuses kui maal, sest see kasvatas terve vigase generatsiooni mis vanematest lahus
6 February 2018 05:55
Margus Meigo commented on Lilith Mary Magdalen's photo.
In You family house, great picture!
6 February 2018 05:18
Margus Meigo commented on Lilith Mary Magdalen's photo.
Beautiful
6 February 2018 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on DrJuergen Kuesters's post.
Really is good, glasses make you look professional and good way interesting scientific geeky !
6 February 2018 04:30
Margus Meigo commented on Frederick Julio's photo.
Greatly AWESOME !!!!
6 February 2018 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov jah, enamus mis ütled on õõige, kuid linnatöö orjad inimesi kindlasti rohkem ja vastu saadakse vähem, lastele pärandatakse veelvähem või üldse mitte midagi.
Kui Linnainimesed arengupuudega poleks, siis nad võtaks kobaras oma korerid, müüks nad maha ja selle rahaga saaks ilmselge kergusega maaelu ülesehitada. Selleks on vaja enmausel looduses tugevat seenedoosi, et sellest arusaada.
Esimese aasta-paar saadaks elatud ajutises putkas ja süüa varutud kuivaineid selle raha eest (inimese kuu toiduraha saab vabalt olla alla 150 euro, piisab ka 50nest kui mõistlikult vaja säästa. )
Selle ajaga juba peaks olema ehitatud ülesse väike maamajake ja maa haritud saama ja 10nese pere võrgustikuga teise aasta lõpus ideaalsel juhul juba oma enda toitu sööma hakata ning ülejäänut müüma.
//kuigi nad vb liialt kallilt müüvad... vast ehk need ongi esimese satsi inimesed kes maale selle raha investeerivad...
siin 2-4 toalised tallinnas, müügis, üle 5000 ... odavaim esimesel lehel oli 40 000 ... enamus üle saja tuhande.
http://kinnisvaraportaal-kv-ee.postimees.ee/?act=search.simple&last_deal_type=&company_id=&page=1&orderby=ob&page_size=&deal_type=1&dt_select=1&county=1&parish=&rooms_min=2&rooms_max=4&price_min=&price_max=&nr_of_people=&area_min=&area_max=&floor_min=&floor_max=&keyword=
tegin majade otsingu, neid üle 3000, üle 300 maja alla 20 000 koos suure maaga mitmed, kuid ei osata vana puumaja hinnata vast ja mis on maa väärtus
....
.
Õigetel suurematel talunikel saab olla sulased ja opipoisid, kes enamuse töö tegid nagu vanasti ja peremees organizeeris ning ülejäänud aja pani ise käe külge ja veetis perega aega, kui mõistlik taluidmine oli.
jah, meil võimlaus, riiki ülesehitades ka sorjata iseenda last joaks, riigi jaoks, või siis lihtsalt iseenda tagumiku jaoks ja välismaa firmade ja toodete jaoks.
See vabavalik, sellega mida luame oma rahval osta, süüa ja müüa.
Tottter on lubada kõike kui pole veel selgeks saanud enamustele põlvedel e mida tegelt vaja on ja mis on hea, korralik,kasulik ja tervislik.
--
tulevad ka liiklused tagasi kui inimesed üksteise kodades a poldudel mõnusat tööd teevad ja seda valmistööd oma väärt sildiall väljasmaale saadame ja eelkõige ise tarbime nii...et oleks vaba aega käsikeäs tüdrukuga metsas jalastega seenel käia, selleks vaj aga tugevat 5+ astat pidevat organizeeritud kampaaniat, ja likivdeerida meediast kõik mölalõuad ja mõtetud ajaraiskamise sarjad, kurjus ekriminullsarjad jne
intenretist las vaatavad, kuid ka osadeleneile lehtedele tolliamet võiks saata browseri teavitusi nagu pokkerilehtedel külastades...
peab karmilt ainult ühesuunalisi sõnumeid lubama tevemõistuslikena, mis on tõe ja looduse suunalised ja siis edasine hakkaks ise naturaalselt voolama,
kuid kuna pool riiki imbunud punastest, liberaalidest ja sarvikute meelsest, tuleviku visioonita...siis muidugi tuleks alguses takistusi.. mistuleks kohe aga häbiposti panna..
see muidugi märg unenägu mis saabub kui meil veab, vastupidine võõrvõimu poolt tekitatav olukord aga on tõenäolisem praegu, kus pärast siserännanutel saame nõusi pesema kui hästi küsime
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ühiskonna ajusi saab muuta õiges suuunas kergest, kui soovitakse ja julgetakse , see pole raske
Kui Linnainimesed arengupuudega poleks, siis nad võtaks kobaras oma korerid, müüks nad maha ja selle rahaga saaks ilmselge kergusega maaelu ülesehitada. Selleks on vaja enmausel looduses tugevat seenedoosi, et sellest arusaada.
Esimese aasta-paar saadaks elatud ajutises putkas ja süüa varutud kuivaineid selle raha eest (inimese kuu toiduraha saab vabalt olla alla 150 euro, piisab ka 50nest kui mõistlikult vaja säästa. )
Selle ajaga juba peaks olema ehitatud ülesse väike maamajake ja maa haritud saama ja 10nese pere võrgustikuga teise aasta lõpus ideaalsel juhul juba oma enda toitu sööma hakata ning ülejäänut müüma.
//kuigi nad vb liialt kallilt müüvad... vast ehk need ongi esimese satsi inimesed kes maale selle raha investeerivad...
siin 2-4 toalised tallinnas, müügis, üle 5000 ... odavaim esimesel lehel oli 40 000 ... enamus üle saja tuhande.
http://kinnisvaraportaal-kv-ee.postimees.ee/?act=search.simple&last_deal_type=&company_id=&page=1&orderby=ob&page_size=&deal_type=1&dt_select=1&county=1&parish=&rooms_min=2&rooms_max=4&price_min=&price_max=&nr_of_people=&area_min=&area_max=&floor_min=&floor_max=&keyword=
tegin majade otsingu, neid üle 3000, üle 300 maja alla 20 000 koos suure maaga mitmed, kuid ei osata vana puumaja hinnata vast ja mis on maa väärtus
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Õigetel suurematel talunikel saab olla sulased ja opipoisid, kes enamuse töö tegid nagu vanasti ja peremees organizeeris ning ülejäänud aja pani ise käe külge ja veetis perega aega, kui mõistlik taluidmine oli.
jah, meil võimlaus, riiki ülesehitades ka sorjata iseenda last joaks, riigi jaoks, või siis lihtsalt iseenda tagumiku jaoks ja välismaa firmade ja toodete jaoks.
See vabavalik, sellega mida luame oma rahval osta, süüa ja müüa.
Tottter on lubada kõike kui pole veel selgeks saanud enamustele põlvedel e mida tegelt vaja on ja mis on hea, korralik,kasulik ja tervislik.
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tulevad ka liiklused tagasi kui inimesed üksteise kodades a poldudel mõnusat tööd teevad ja seda valmistööd oma väärt sildiall väljasmaale saadame ja eelkõige ise tarbime nii...et oleks vaba aega käsikeäs tüdrukuga metsas jalastega seenel käia, selleks vaj aga tugevat 5+ astat pidevat organizeeritud kampaaniat, ja likivdeerida meediast kõik mölalõuad ja mõtetud ajaraiskamise sarjad, kurjus ekriminullsarjad jne
intenretist las vaatavad, kuid ka osadeleneile lehtedele tolliamet võiks saata browseri teavitusi nagu pokkerilehtedel külastades...
peab karmilt ainult ühesuunalisi sõnumeid lubama tevemõistuslikena, mis on tõe ja looduse suunalised ja siis edasine hakkaks ise naturaalselt voolama,
kuid kuna pool riiki imbunud punastest, liberaalidest ja sarvikute meelsest, tuleviku visioonita...siis muidugi tuleks alguses takistusi.. mistuleks kohe aga häbiposti panna..
see muidugi märg unenägu mis saabub kui meil veab, vastupidine võõrvõimu poolt tekitatav olukord aga on tõenäolisem praegu, kus pärast siserännanutel saame nõusi pesema kui hästi küsime
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ühiskonna ajusi saab muuta õiges suuunas kergest, kui soovitakse ja julgetakse , see pole raske
http://kinnisvaraportaal-kv-ee.postimees.ee/?act=search.simple&last_deal_type&company_id&page=1&orderby=ob&page_size&deal_type=1&dt_select=1&county=1&parish&rooms_min=2&rooms_max=4&price_min&price_max&nr_of_people&area_min&area_max&floor_min&floor_max&keyword
6 February 2018 04:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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6 February 2018 03:50
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov lõpetuseks: Kas teiste meie lähedaste riikide põllumajandus läti poole, on täies õitsengus?
Suur osa maaelu võrgustikest koosnes Eestivastastest kommunisidest,kellel oli N.Liidu ees kohustus, vastu punnida ja jonnida ning riik ja maamajandus põhja lasta ning selles valitsust süüdistada.
Seevõrk oli vaja ka kuidagi lammutada, neilt võim võtta, ja lootuses, Et ülejäänud Eestlased sellest meelsusest ei saa manipuleeritud ja riismed korjavad ja nagu vanad Eestlased naati süües kõik patriootlikult üles ehitavad, usaldades lipse linnas ja tehes maal seda mid avaja, ja suurosa , paljud tegid ka,
kuid tuleb arusaada, et ENAMUS olid ju liitunud mis org. N. ajal?
Ja nende juuures ka käidi ja tuletati nend evannet meelde ja mis moodi nendegagi saab õnnetuis juhtuda...
ja hypnoosis paljudele saadi see tegevus sisse lülitada ja ajust kustutada kohtumised, need lihtsad suht testitud meetothid, mis töötavad sinnamaale, et keegi ennas tis ehulluk spidama hakkaks, kui tal kogematta midagi meel eutlekski, et ta meelsus programeeritud riigi vastaseks
isegi armastuse ja hingega seotud laulud evastu, inimesi prgrameeriti, is enäinud neid tagajärgi kus Kare kauksi hingelised laulud inimestes suurt vastumeelt ja viha tekitavad, vastikusega...kuid norm mõistus ütleb, et see peak svõimatu olema, kui inimene Eestlane on
Suur osa maaelu võrgustikest koosnes Eestivastastest kommunisidest,kellel oli N.Liidu ees kohustus, vastu punnida ja jonnida ning riik ja maamajandus põhja lasta ning selles valitsust süüdistada.
Seevõrk oli vaja ka kuidagi lammutada, neilt võim võtta, ja lootuses, Et ülejäänud Eestlased sellest meelsusest ei saa manipuleeritud ja riismed korjavad ja nagu vanad Eestlased naati süües kõik patriootlikult üles ehitavad, usaldades lipse linnas ja tehes maal seda mid avaja, ja suurosa , paljud tegid ka,
kuid tuleb arusaada, et ENAMUS olid ju liitunud mis org. N. ajal?
Ja nende juuures ka käidi ja tuletati nend evannet meelde ja mis moodi nendegagi saab õnnetuis juhtuda...
ja hypnoosis paljudele saadi see tegevus sisse lülitada ja ajust kustutada kohtumised, need lihtsad suht testitud meetothid, mis töötavad sinnamaale, et keegi ennas tis ehulluk spidama hakkaks, kui tal kogematta midagi meel eutlekski, et ta meelsus programeeritud riigi vastaseks
isegi armastuse ja hingega seotud laulud evastu, inimesi prgrameeriti, is enäinud neid tagajärgi kus Kare kauksi hingelised laulud inimestes suurt vastumeelt ja viha tekitavad, vastikusega...kuid norm mõistus ütleb, et see peak svõimatu olema, kui inimene Eestlane on
6 February 2018 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov siis on ju ühiskonnal täis taandareng igas mõttes olnud ja tehnoloogia täielikult miinusega kasutu, kui kgogu selle lihtustamise ajastul nad ei saa odavamalt, kergemini, paremini hakkama kui vanal ajal.
Kurb, ei hakata vabatahtlikult normaalseks... nu jah, orjameelsusele pole vaja kaasa aidata, et nagu see normaalne oleks, et nõutakse toetusi.
Kui ainult toetuste najal seisab midagi siis peab vaatama, kas saab sama asja kuidagi ilma toetuseta rakendatud, nii, e tmiinuses poleks pidevalt tegevus.
Kui KÕIGE vajalikumate asjade tootmisega nagu toit, mets, õlid, riided jne ei suudeta kasu teenida, siis MILLEGA veel?
See alaarengu sügav tase ju, kui me riiklikult koos ei oska mõelda, ja suunata, et me OSTAME EESTIMAIST.
Alustuseks, ja mis puudu, ostame sisse, ja mis meil siin puudu saaks olla kui me rahvas siin is enii arulagedaid asju poest ei ostaks, suitsudest kuni suhkrujookideni?
Kuhu enamus raha läheb Eestlaste oma ja toetuste oma? Välismaale läbi valede kaupade ostmise, valede teenuste tootmise ja veelvalema materiali vaatamisega telekast ning ebavajaliku tegevuse tegelemisega internetis.
Loomulikult, kui meie riik PÄRISELT Eestlaste käes lõplikult oleks, siis siin asjad teistmoodi toimiks, kuid praegu hea, et neetki veel on, kes seda hoiavad sellisena, et siin veel võimalus meil vabadusse tõusta, olles mitme eri noa ja manipulatsiooni vahel.
Kurb, ei hakata vabatahtlikult normaalseks... nu jah, orjameelsusele pole vaja kaasa aidata, et nagu see normaalne oleks, et nõutakse toetusi.
Kui ainult toetuste najal seisab midagi siis peab vaatama, kas saab sama asja kuidagi ilma toetuseta rakendatud, nii, e tmiinuses poleks pidevalt tegevus.
Kui KÕIGE vajalikumate asjade tootmisega nagu toit, mets, õlid, riided jne ei suudeta kasu teenida, siis MILLEGA veel?
See alaarengu sügav tase ju, kui me riiklikult koos ei oska mõelda, ja suunata, et me OSTAME EESTIMAIST.
Alustuseks, ja mis puudu, ostame sisse, ja mis meil siin puudu saaks olla kui me rahvas siin is enii arulagedaid asju poest ei ostaks, suitsudest kuni suhkrujookideni?
Kuhu enamus raha läheb Eestlaste oma ja toetuste oma? Välismaale läbi valede kaupade ostmise, valede teenuste tootmise ja veelvalema materiali vaatamisega telekast ning ebavajaliku tegevuse tegelemisega internetis.
Loomulikult, kui meie riik PÄRISELT Eestlaste käes lõplikult oleks, siis siin asjad teistmoodi toimiks, kuid praegu hea, et neetki veel on, kes seda hoiavad sellisena, et siin veel võimalus meil vabadusse tõusta, olles mitme eri noa ja manipulatsiooni vahel.
6 February 2018 03:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"They will spend their time watching you for any deviations of behavior outside a small box of “normal.” If you do deviate, conversation will grow uncomfortable until you leave. Afterwards the thought police will release their uneasiness and report you to each other. If you’re really onto something, they will report you to those that will attempt to slow you down or dissuade you.
We live in a dystopia and a society that hates good ideas.
The only thing society hates more than good ideas are the people that bring them forth.
The good news is that the crowd is predictable. Yes, thought police might be watching you day and night to make sure you remain comatose… But there are seven tells from them (and a sick culture) that you can identify to confirm that you’re onto something big.
We live in a dystopia and a society that hates good ideas.
The only thing society hates more than good ideas are the people that bring them forth.
The good news is that the crowd is predictable. Yes, thought police might be watching you day and night to make sure you remain comatose… But there are seven tells from them (and a sick culture) that you can identify to confirm that you’re onto something big.
6 February 2018 03:27
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kui ma päriselt ka miskeid fakte teaks või reaalseid teadmisi, siis oleksid Sa päris suures häbis, sest tunnetusepõhal lihne arusaada kus on tõde...seega ma lootsingi, et ehk jagad veel ja veel infot..
6 February 2018 03:23
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ma tean küll ja küll inimesi, kellel praegu maad käes, ja keelduvad külaevahel kokku leppima, et üks paneks kanepi või linase maha ja teine otsiks töötlemis kohad ja kolma smüüks ja neljas teeks riigis lobitööd selle struktuuri elenadmiseks.
Lihtsalt kogutakse EU liidu rahasi tühjade maade pealt või kasvatatakse massiliselt suht maad nüristavaid toiduaineid ilm avahelduseta,
kuigi, natukene nuppu kasutades, promo õigele toidule ja materialidele tehes, saaks kenasti lihtsalt käima maaelu,
kuid siis peavad Eestlased ka KOOSTÖÖD tegema, ja mitte ISE rikkusi korjama, vaid loota, et parimal juhul, see rikkus nende laste keskasjaks kohale jõuab, see oleks normaalne eestlaste mõtlemine, ui kultuurina allesjääda soovime
Lihtsalt kogutakse EU liidu rahasi tühjade maade pealt või kasvatatakse massiliselt suht maad nüristavaid toiduaineid ilm avahelduseta,
kuigi, natukene nuppu kasutades, promo õigele toidule ja materialidele tehes, saaks kenasti lihtsalt käima maaelu,
kuid siis peavad Eestlased ka KOOSTÖÖD tegema, ja mitte ISE rikkusi korjama, vaid loota, et parimal juhul, see rikkus nende laste keskasjaks kohale jõuab, see oleks normaalne eestlaste mõtlemine, ui kultuurina allesjääda soovime
6 February 2018 03:21
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Hakkaks küsima, kas Hull old kuid see tunduks koomiline
Point on selles, et see on arulage, et olid maisnad ja maad olemas.. ja siis inimesed is elopetasid tegevuse, sest omavahel iseseisvalt ei saadud hakkama enam,sest N liidu systeem oli ajud ja koostöövõime likvideerinud,
et kui keegi käsiga põllule ei aja siis ei osatud inna enam, lihtsam jalad lauapeal seebikaid vaadata ja lapsed hooletusse jätta, interneti kasvatada, ja siis süüdistada, et need lapsed viimase dmaad ja metsad ka ärikatele müüsid
Point on selles, et see on arulage, et olid maisnad ja maad olemas.. ja siis inimesed is elopetasid tegevuse, sest omavahel iseseisvalt ei saadud hakkama enam,sest N liidu systeem oli ajud ja koostöövõime likvideerinud,
et kui keegi käsiga põllule ei aja siis ei osatud inna enam, lihtsam jalad lauapeal seebikaid vaadata ja lapsed hooletusse jätta, interneti kasvatada, ja siis süüdistada, et need lapsed viimase dmaad ja metsad ka ärikatele müüsid
6 February 2018 03:16
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
inimestel selline halehäbi, et nad OMA LAPSI ei osanud kasvatada (ei osatud arusaada impeeriumi programmist kellel me ristijalus) ja need maast võõrdusid ja siis süüdistavad selles inimest kes rohkem selle riigi olemasoluks teinud kui enamus inimesi kokku keda nad päris elus tunnevad.
6 February 2018 03:14
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kuid ehmatusega märkasin..et Sa soovisid põllumajandust mis TOETUSTE näol seisaksid v?
mis sorti Eestlus see veel on??
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Ka smuidu tead kust selle filmi seeriad saadaval:
"" Teine film "Eile, 1992–2002". See oli kõige suurem muutuste aeg. Ühise joonena on selle kümnendi ministrite mõtetes-ütlemistes 1994. aastal riigikogus vastuvõetud otsus, et Eesti peab oma rahva peamiste toiduainetega ise varustama. Ükski tolle perioodi minister ei saanud ametis olla täit aega, nelja aastat. "
https://maaelu.postimees.ee/3708651/pollumajandusministrite-film-sobib-ajaloo-oppimiseks
Ja süüdistad Laari selles ediselt, et inimesed oma maad keeldusid harimast, sest nad ei saanud aru, et need N liidu masinad mis siin meie maad kurnasid, need piditki mienma kuna võõrsüsteemi oma ja võõral eesmärgil, niigi seda tehnikat kuhjaga siia jäi, müüdi vanarauaks ja selle raha eest osteti benmareid ja linnakortereid, ja Laar selles süüdi?
Vanasti saadi ilma masinateta hakkama, kui palju raskem oli ja nüüd kui suht odavalt võimalik keegi traktoriga põldu kündma saada, lubades talle osa saagist, miks seda ei tehta, Laar süüdi, et usaldust ja koosteoskuest puudu on inimestel peale seebikatega ajude kalgistumist?
Kaar Sul nüüd küll polnud hvitatud Eestlaste vastandumisest ja kui rublasi poleks müüdud, siis see oleks idiootne miinus olnud meie riigile, seda poleks enam paremini saanud otse riigisüsteemi suunata, kui selliselt. Kas sellest mitte pensionite maksmine alguse eip saanud ja mitu muud head algatus?
Minuarust see nii tragikoomiline järeldus, et pisara võtab silma
mis sorti Eestlus see veel on??
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Ka smuidu tead kust selle filmi seeriad saadaval:
"" Teine film "Eile, 1992–2002". See oli kõige suurem muutuste aeg. Ühise joonena on selle kümnendi ministrite mõtetes-ütlemistes 1994. aastal riigikogus vastuvõetud otsus, et Eesti peab oma rahva peamiste toiduainetega ise varustama. Ükski tolle perioodi minister ei saanud ametis olla täit aega, nelja aastat. "
https://maaelu.postimees.ee/3708651/pollumajandusministrite-film-sobib-ajaloo-oppimiseks
Ja süüdistad Laari selles ediselt, et inimesed oma maad keeldusid harimast, sest nad ei saanud aru, et need N liidu masinad mis siin meie maad kurnasid, need piditki mienma kuna võõrsüsteemi oma ja võõral eesmärgil, niigi seda tehnikat kuhjaga siia jäi, müüdi vanarauaks ja selle raha eest osteti benmareid ja linnakortereid, ja Laar selles süüdi?
Vanasti saadi ilma masinateta hakkama, kui palju raskem oli ja nüüd kui suht odavalt võimalik keegi traktoriga põldu kündma saada, lubades talle osa saagist, miks seda ei tehta, Laar süüdi, et usaldust ja koosteoskuest puudu on inimestel peale seebikatega ajude kalgistumist?
Kaar Sul nüüd küll polnud hvitatud Eestlaste vastandumisest ja kui rublasi poleks müüdud, siis see oleks idiootne miinus olnud meie riigile, seda poleks enam paremini saanud otse riigisüsteemi suunata, kui selliselt. Kas sellest mitte pensionite maksmine alguse eip saanud ja mitu muud head algatus?
Minuarust see nii tragikoomiline järeldus, et pisara võtab silma
https://maaelu.postimees.ee/3708651/pollumajandusministrite-film-sobib-ajaloo-oppimiseks
6 February 2018 03:12
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Eks arvamusi ole mitmeid, oleneb kes kui ausalt tõele näkku vaatab ja kes mugava ideoloogiaga kaasa läheb, nagu meie om amehed me vastu oleks, punastele see sobib, kuid siis põllumehelt sõnum:
"Põllumajandusel läheb hästi tänu 90nendatel tehtud õigete otsustele, ütles presidendilt Valgetähe V klassi teenetemärgi saanud Mätiku talu peremees ja endine Oidermaa kolhoosi esimees Aivar Pikkmets."
"Kunagi ma kandideerisin Keskerakonna nimekirjas ja siis ma küll nimetasin Mart Laari Eesti põllumajanduse hävitajaks. Kuid nüüd ma ei saa küll temale enam selliseid asju ette heita.
Olin Laari peale tige, sest tema aetud poliitikaga anti maad endistele omanikele tagasi ja ma pidin hakkama maid kokku ostma. Minul olid tootmisvahendid, maa aga kuulus kellelegi Tallinna, Pärnu või Kanada elanikule."
// ehk ka osade teiste vimm oli,sest ebaausad pirukad neilt punastelt võeti ja nad siis trotsist ei teinud põllumajandust nagu päris Eestlastele kohane ja ei andnud oma traktoreid tasuta kaustuseks, et saaksid teise dteha kes sooviksid...
umbe snagu need täis arulagedad riigivastased kes alkoholi käivad tritsi pärast lätist toomas, täiesti haiglane käitumine nende poolt kes seda teevad ja arvavad, et see moraalne tegu oma meelsuse näitamiseks.
https://majandus24.postimees.ee/3079741/parjatud-pollumees-mart-laar-polnud-eesti-pollumajanduse-havitaja
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Muidugi kui juhtud teadma reaalseid seadusi oleks parem uurida kes mis otsusetaga oli... need siia vajalikud, arhiiviks, uuritakse veel kõike...
, ja kui ka lisaksid, koos kommentaariga miks paha/hea ja vihje alternatiivile.
Sina tulid ju teist inimest kritiseerima (solvama), veel nii auväärsete tegudega inimest meie ajaloos, siis parem kui faktid Sul kaasas.
"Põllumajandusel läheb hästi tänu 90nendatel tehtud õigete otsustele, ütles presidendilt Valgetähe V klassi teenetemärgi saanud Mätiku talu peremees ja endine Oidermaa kolhoosi esimees Aivar Pikkmets."
"Kunagi ma kandideerisin Keskerakonna nimekirjas ja siis ma küll nimetasin Mart Laari Eesti põllumajanduse hävitajaks. Kuid nüüd ma ei saa küll temale enam selliseid asju ette heita.
Olin Laari peale tige, sest tema aetud poliitikaga anti maad endistele omanikele tagasi ja ma pidin hakkama maid kokku ostma. Minul olid tootmisvahendid, maa aga kuulus kellelegi Tallinna, Pärnu või Kanada elanikule."
// ehk ka osade teiste vimm oli,sest ebaausad pirukad neilt punastelt võeti ja nad siis trotsist ei teinud põllumajandust nagu päris Eestlastele kohane ja ei andnud oma traktoreid tasuta kaustuseks, et saaksid teise dteha kes sooviksid...
umbe snagu need täis arulagedad riigivastased kes alkoholi käivad tritsi pärast lätist toomas, täiesti haiglane käitumine nende poolt kes seda teevad ja arvavad, et see moraalne tegu oma meelsuse näitamiseks.
https://majandus24.postimees.ee/3079741/parjatud-pollumees-mart-laar-polnud-eesti-pollumajanduse-havitaja
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Muidugi kui juhtud teadma reaalseid seadusi oleks parem uurida kes mis otsusetaga oli... need siia vajalikud, arhiiviks, uuritakse veel kõike...
, ja kui ka lisaksid, koos kommentaariga miks paha/hea ja vihje alternatiivile.
Sina tulid ju teist inimest kritiseerima (solvama), veel nii auväärsete tegudega inimest meie ajaloos, siis parem kui faktid Sul kaasas.
https://majandus24.postimees.ee/3079741/parjatud-pollumees-mart-laar-polnud-eesti-pollumajanduse-havitaja
6 February 2018 03:10
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Vot see on juba mehemoodi vastus
6 February 2018 02:34
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov ise alustad demogoogiaga ja süüdistad mind selles?
Nu selline lause on arulage mi sütlesid keeramise osas, see on väga madal tase.
Ütle nüüd suur tark, MIS need asjad on, mitte ära plääguta demogoogiat siin mul vaid hakka andma fakte ja reaalseid linke, mis ja kuidas.
Mis niisama jahud, jaga infot mitte kasutuid leelotajate silte.
Küsiti sult, linke, seadusi, ja mida oleks pidanud tegema, on neid kes oskavad neid asju anda ja teavad, ja neil on õigus olla kriitiline, aga mis õigus Sul olla on kriitiline, kui Sa ei tea ega oska anda reaalseid seadusi ja nende sõnastatud uudiseid austusväärsetest kohtadest, misomakorra tooni annaks kuivale seaduse tekstile, tõeselt
Nu selline lause on arulage mi sütlesid keeramise osas, see on väga madal tase.
Ütle nüüd suur tark, MIS need asjad on, mitte ära plääguta demogoogiat siin mul vaid hakka andma fakte ja reaalseid linke, mis ja kuidas.
Mis niisama jahud, jaga infot mitte kasutuid leelotajate silte.
Küsiti sult, linke, seadusi, ja mida oleks pidanud tegema, on neid kes oskavad neid asju anda ja teavad, ja neil on õigus olla kriitiline, aga mis õigus Sul olla on kriitiline, kui Sa ei tea ega oska anda reaalseid seadusi ja nende sõnastatud uudiseid austusväärsetest kohtadest, misomakorra tooni annaks kuivale seaduse tekstile, tõeselt
6 February 2018 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on Francois Bois's video.
What was the reason?
6 February 2018 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on Francois Bois's post.
like a boss
6 February 2018 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on François Bois's post.
Did You really?
6 February 2018 01:18
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Thea Inno habe on ikka suht oluline ja see niisama ka ei kasva nendel kellel kõrvadevahe kontrolli all rohkem on kes püüdlikult kohe maha nühib selle,
habe ikka väga oluline elemnt, eraldi filtri peaks valimistel panema, habeme osas, et nende vahel valida kellel habe juba olemas on, järgmine filter kes ilma lipsuta julgevad olla ning alkohol ja suitsuta elavad, ning kes naisega õiges suhtes.
Kahjuks jah, inimesed ei käi habet valimas vaid valitakse rohkem analüüsimata agendasi ja emotsioone
Ja ku imuud põhjust ei suudeta arusaad,a siis praktilisetki:
http://www.lifehack.org/299301/its-not-just-cooler-but-also-healthier-10-reasons-why-men-should-grow-beards
habe ikka väga oluline elemnt, eraldi filtri peaks valimistel panema, habeme osas, et nende vahel valida kellel habe juba olemas on, järgmine filter kes ilma lipsuta julgevad olla ning alkohol ja suitsuta elavad, ning kes naisega õiges suhtes.
Kahjuks jah, inimesed ei käi habet valimas vaid valitakse rohkem analüüsimata agendasi ja emotsioone
Ja ku imuud põhjust ei suudeta arusaad,a siis praktilisetki:
http://www.lifehack.org/299301/its-not-just-cooler-but-also-healthier-10-reasons-why-men-should-grow-beards
http://www.lifehack.org/299301/its-not-just-cooler-but-also-healthier-10-reasons-why-men-should-grow-beards
6 February 2018 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
...what if they happen some day..
6 February 2018 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Thea Inno mul on õigluse vajadus,
on arulage, materdada ja mahatirida meid isendeid kui vaja olek sminevikust õppida ja arusaada.
See mees julges vahest vähemasti habetki kanda, see juba ise plusspunkt.
ta ei imalenud mikrofonide ees ega ajanud miskit kristaliseeritud psühopaadi juttu ülbelt vaid mõtles ja tundis ka.
Mingi mahatampimise ja maha tirimise vajadus või?
Ja ma pole ka nõus sellega, et pole aumeeste valdkond, se eon täpselt SELLINE valdkond kui me ise julgeme hoida seda, RAHVAS..kuid me söödame oma poliitikud huntidele, tulnukatele ja maailma tipp luure ajuprogrameeriatele..jättes nad armastusest ja kaashoolest ilma, rääkimata om atöö tegemata jätmiseks riigi arengu ja kaitse tarvis...ja siis oma suur ekuritöö triufiks veel kannaga tallume nende otsas, kes suutnud vähegi alles jääda ja miskitki teha, sellepiires mida rahvas ise lubas,
miks rahvas endale otsa ei vaata, et nemad on need kes on lahus ja hajevil, ja räägivad sellist juttu, et neid saaks iga välismaa võin peagi üle võtta kui meil riigi kaitset poleks veel niipalju kui seda aegajalt alles on lubatud hoida
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaak_J%C3%B5er%C3%BC%C3%BCt
on arulage, materdada ja mahatirida meid isendeid kui vaja olek sminevikust õppida ja arusaada.
See mees julges vahest vähemasti habetki kanda, see juba ise plusspunkt.
ta ei imalenud mikrofonide ees ega ajanud miskit kristaliseeritud psühopaadi juttu ülbelt vaid mõtles ja tundis ka.
Mingi mahatampimise ja maha tirimise vajadus või?
Ja ma pole ka nõus sellega, et pole aumeeste valdkond, se eon täpselt SELLINE valdkond kui me ise julgeme hoida seda, RAHVAS..kuid me söödame oma poliitikud huntidele, tulnukatele ja maailma tipp luure ajuprogrameeriatele..jättes nad armastusest ja kaashoolest ilma, rääkimata om atöö tegemata jätmiseks riigi arengu ja kaitse tarvis...ja siis oma suur ekuritöö triufiks veel kannaga tallume nende otsas, kes suutnud vähegi alles jääda ja miskitki teha, sellepiires mida rahvas ise lubas,
miks rahvas endale otsa ei vaata, et nemad on need kes on lahus ja hajevil, ja räägivad sellist juttu, et neid saaks iga välismaa võin peagi üle võtta kui meil riigi kaitset poleks veel niipalju kui seda aegajalt alles on lubatud hoida
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaak_J%C3%B5er%C3%BC%C3%BCt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaak_J%C3%B5er%C3%BC%C3%BCt
6 February 2018 00:33
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Muidu kuid ole hea, tuleta need reformid ja asjad meelde mida Laar tegi mis ainult temast sõltusid ja mis kindlalt süüdi on selles, et eestalsed maaelust võõrandusid ja paneelmajadesse nagu orja dolisid?
... põhi viga oligi mi spähe tuleb.., see sama ülipüüdlikus, millest laar ise ka rääkis, viimases audios, kus me maaelu likvideerimiseks võetud norme vastuvõtsime kuid siiani on Eestlaste endi kätes asuda maaelu ülesehitama..aga ei..istutakse baarides ja telekaees ja virisetakse, selleasemel, et 10 pere koku võtta ja need omakorda üle eesti leidma teised sellise dpundid peaks... ja pihta hakkama
... põhi viga oligi mi spähe tuleb.., see sama ülipüüdlikus, millest laar ise ka rääkis, viimases audios, kus me maaelu likvideerimiseks võetud norme vastuvõtsime kuid siiani on Eestlaste endi kätes asuda maaelu ülesehitama..aga ei..istutakse baarides ja telekaees ja virisetakse, selleasemel, et 10 pere koku võtta ja need omakorda üle eesti leidma teised sellise dpundid peaks... ja pihta hakkama
6 February 2018 00:21
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kui oleks õige maaelu olnud, siis mis oodi keegi seda tuksi keerata oleks saanud "vabal ajal", loomulikult kui osadel sajoop peas ja massiliselt mõrvamiseks ja vangistuseks loomi orjastada soovisid, siis ongi hea, et see pervertsus lõpetati, et meil olek svõimalus orjapõlvest vabaneda (sest mida teed teistele tehakse sulle) kuid vähegi arukad oleks pidanud, kui nad ise targad, oleks pidnaud kasvatama hakkama linast, kanepit, peeti, kaalikat ja samal ajal teised turundajad neid tooteid turundama,
kuid EESTI oma aferistid turundasid rohkem alkoholi, välismaa suhkrujooke ja rämpstoitu, paneelmajade ehitamist ja kes teab mis pornot veel.
Miks nei deestlasi oksa ei tõmmata kes me kultuuri hävitamisele pahade ja kahjulik eäridega kaasa aidanud , teadlikult ja arupuudusest, enamasti raha ahnusest, oma riigi lapsi hävitanud, et neil papp taskus oleks..neist ei räägi keegi,
teeme veel nimekirja kõikidest affidest kes siin maal saasta ja parhti promonud ja looduskohti maha tõmmanud ning reostanud, ning pärime aru nende lastelt ning teem ekindlaks, et need järglased om avanemate saatust ja legendi edasi ei kannaks,
riigikallal ilkujad ka , eralisti
kuid EESTI oma aferistid turundasid rohkem alkoholi, välismaa suhkrujooke ja rämpstoitu, paneelmajade ehitamist ja kes teab mis pornot veel.
Miks nei deestlasi oksa ei tõmmata kes me kultuuri hävitamisele pahade ja kahjulik eäridega kaasa aidanud , teadlikult ja arupuudusest, enamasti raha ahnusest, oma riigi lapsi hävitanud, et neil papp taskus oleks..neist ei räägi keegi,
teeme veel nimekirja kõikidest affidest kes siin maal saasta ja parhti promonud ja looduskohti maha tõmmanud ning reostanud, ning pärime aru nende lastelt ning teem ekindlaks, et need järglased om avanemate saatust ja legendi edasi ei kannaks,
riigikallal ilkujad ka , eralisti
6 February 2018 00:18
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov ära mõtle lapsikult,
Kes maaelu teistel maadel samal ajal siis tuksi keeras?
Vene ajast aloholist ärajoodud ja pseudo põllumajandus, mis oli hukule määratud ning uue aja mugavused telekaees õnnega ajaviitmine ning nõrk patriootlikus ja nõrk maaelu tajumine, keeras maaelu tuksi,
--
Loomulikult ei saa ma ise ka aru veel, miks need asjad tehti ilma,et samalajal rahvale teada antaks, mida nad ise tegema peavad... vb anti ka... vb nad olid noored ja maaelust võõrdunud ning ei osanud arusaada tegelikest suundadest,
kuid meelega Eesti vastu ta oma vigades küll ei toimetanud, see oleks absurdne, erinevalt mõnest teisest kes teadlikult on kaasaaidanud organisatsioonidele/erakondadele kellel on otsesed sidemed, koostöleppetki mõnel, nendega kelle reaalseks misiooniks on olnud meie kultuuri reaalne likvideerimine igal tasandil , sh juure tasandil
Kes maaelu teistel maadel samal ajal siis tuksi keeras?
Vene ajast aloholist ärajoodud ja pseudo põllumajandus, mis oli hukule määratud ning uue aja mugavused telekaees õnnega ajaviitmine ning nõrk patriootlikus ja nõrk maaelu tajumine, keeras maaelu tuksi,
--
Loomulikult ei saa ma ise ka aru veel, miks need asjad tehti ilma,et samalajal rahvale teada antaks, mida nad ise tegema peavad... vb anti ka... vb nad olid noored ja maaelust võõrdunud ning ei osanud arusaada tegelikest suundadest,
kuid meelega Eesti vastu ta oma vigades küll ei toimetanud, see oleks absurdne, erinevalt mõnest teisest kes teadlikult on kaasaaidanud organisatsioonidele/erakondadele kellel on otsesed sidemed, koostöleppetki mõnel, nendega kelle reaalseks misiooniks on olnud meie kultuuri reaalne likvideerimine igal tasandil , sh juure tasandil
6 February 2018 00:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but seriously Superman, it can be windy on so high
5 February 2018 23:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
might fly
https://media0.giphy.com/media/wUa5t2ngabya4/giphy.gif
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5 February 2018 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on Logan Alexander's photo.
ahhahaha
Crazy good way, careful with that master size pizza
Crazy good way, careful with that master size pizza
5 February 2018 23:44
Margus Meigo commented on Logan Alexander's photo.
Proper good fun picture!
5 February 2018 23:35
Margus Meigo commented on Frederick Julio's photo.
nooot to much horns promotion, there is better powers :p
Looking much younger here?
Looking much younger here?
5 February 2018 23:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So how can we help?
5 February 2018 18:58
Margus Meigo commented on Avo-rein Tereping's post.
Mul isa isamaaliidust juba lapsepõlves rääkis mis moodi see süsteem peresi lõhub ja vanemaid lastest eemadab, kogu ühiskonna mõttemaailma peapeale ja orjameelseks, süsteeminisa küljes olevaks muudab
5 February 2018 16:46
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Trump's post.
Group: CIA - Central Intelligence Agency
Not working on new modern Art project, let's hope mate :p5 February 2018 15:20
Margus Meigo commented on Jana Kuldmaa's post.
Ma pole kindel veel miks aga minu poolt ka, kui Õnn ühelt siis topelt veelgi hea, õnne alati tarvis!
5 February 2018 15:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// even poor who did not have idea, about this to become to computer playable for them in future play that and it worked in putting you in to alternative mindset
It was about values and Princesses in old times, what it is about noways, the games?
Just army recruitment or disaster recovery with what kind of final ending?
It was about values and Princesses in old times, what it is about noways, the games?
Just army recruitment or disaster recovery with what kind of final ending?
5 February 2018 14:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
One of the oldest and the best platform games. It also launched the wave of several remakes and additional continuations of story of a prince from Persia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv20j8ChtRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv20j8ChtRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv20j8ChtRY
5 February 2018 14:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So no Street Fighter or Mortal Combat, Prince of Pärsio or Super Mario (drugs-red mushroom eating + simulated hidden violence) but they got in real sports the horse torture, beating competition and even sports with shooting and intense potential harm and ...well, even hockey can be interpreted as having potential violence or harm elements to hard in as people band against each other with no friendliness.
https://www.polygon.com/2017/8/30/16228134/olympics-esports-violent-video-games
https://www.polygon.com/2017/8/30/16228134/olympics-esports-violent-video-games
https://www.polygon.com/2017/8/30/16228134/olympics-esports-violent-video-games
5 February 2018 14:47
Margus Meigo replied to Mark Baker's comment.
in these locations this prank is a hard joke :D
5 February 2018 10:50
Margus Meigo commented on Maxime Pierre Bobeuf's post.
except the people, it seems at times:D
5 February 2018 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on Maxime Pierre Bobeuf's photo.
i would say it is against constitution to deny VIA to do what they want, same go's with NSA, just the last one needs to use more morals,
5 February 2018 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
just to make sure, we talk about same thing
/siberia
/siberia
5 February 2018 00:23
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
Kostas Tsakas for my understanding, šamanism in antidote to black magic
But lets clearly few things,
what do you see in šamanism, what it is and how it looks,
bring samples of methods, and outcomes,
and what happens when it happens
But lets clearly few things,
what do you see in šamanism, what it is and how it looks,
bring samples of methods, and outcomes,
and what happens when it happens
5 February 2018 00:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nice plan anyway, i appropriate
5 February 2018 00:05
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
Kostas Tsakas well, at times seems, as i i am blue, black and white but my black is tied between blue and white.. as our flag is ,
white is pureness of soul & desire and blue (electric dark) this what contains the weapons in me... in spiritual level..
at times white is replaced with green... then black just becomes a ground and blue turns in to fresh pureness
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But yes, i would not think, these plants i keep in my mind are natural to Egypt land... them got these arts from us, perhaps on the times what folklore tells, when we sinkd the Atlantis for their black-magic ...
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But these just folk tales and feelings,
white is pureness of soul & desire and blue (electric dark) this what contains the weapons in me... in spiritual level..
at times white is replaced with green... then black just becomes a ground and blue turns in to fresh pureness
---
But yes, i would not think, these plants i keep in my mind are natural to Egypt land... them got these arts from us, perhaps on the times what folklore tells, when we sinkd the Atlantis for their black-magic ...
--
But these just folk tales and feelings,
4 February 2018 23:58
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
Kostas Tsakas so You think šamanism is good?
4 February 2018 23:48
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
Just cert error related to date, add exemption from the link bellow,
Well, i hear You, hard info,
but why would they make bible that has opposite values and secrets and guidance inside then the ones that proper criminals and pentagram worshipers have ?
You know the Old testament as much i see, except missing info about šamanism, that is understandable, ... would be counter productive ... for them to enforce parent-child love proper way and then try to rip it a part (so what You think about Hebrew & Jewish 12 family lines etc? What You think about šamanism and how should be God communication work, with what names, what guidance, written in where? )
Well, i hear You, hard info,
but why would they make bible that has opposite values and secrets and guidance inside then the ones that proper criminals and pentagram worshipers have ?
You know the Old testament as much i see, except missing info about šamanism, that is understandable, ... would be counter productive ... for them to enforce parent-child love proper way and then try to rip it a part (so what You think about Hebrew & Jewish 12 family lines etc? What You think about šamanism and how should be God communication work, with what names, what guidance, written in where? )
4 February 2018 14:56
Margus Meigo replied to Fiona Lin's comment.
But still important, that sharing same idea of beauty
4 February 2018 13:15
Margus Meigo commented on Sven Truupõld's post.
Kahju ainult, et niisuurhulk naistest ei ole osanud suure osa ajaloost vahet teha alfaisastel ja agresiiv naisekütiide või ebainimlike olendite vahel kes õppinud selgeks mõned alatud kunstid ja põhitõed,
samalajal kui päris väärtustega mida tegelikult pikas plaanis ihaldatakse, neist kõnnitakse mitte ainult mööda vaid hävitavalt kontsakingadega üle, ühiskonna pealiskaudsete ja kallutatud väärtustel end manipuleerida lastes, ise enda südame vastu astudes ning end noppida lastakse neil, kes paljusi noppinud ja nopivad veelgi, jättes pikasplaanis maha ainult iseennast süüdistavad või ärakasutatud räbalad, õrna usalduse ja meesväärtusi hindavate rojaalsete naiste asemel
samalajal kui päris väärtustega mida tegelikult pikas plaanis ihaldatakse, neist kõnnitakse mitte ainult mööda vaid hävitavalt kontsakingadega üle, ühiskonna pealiskaudsete ja kallutatud väärtustel end manipuleerida lastes, ise enda südame vastu astudes ning end noppida lastakse neil, kes paljusi noppinud ja nopivad veelgi, jättes pikasplaanis maha ainult iseennast süüdistavad või ärakasutatud räbalad, õrna usalduse ja meesväärtusi hindavate rojaalsete naiste asemel
4 February 2018 13:11
Margus Meigo commented on Sven Truupõld's post.
4 February 2018 13:05
Margus Meigo replied to Fiona Lin's comment.
is this Really You?
4 February 2018 12:49
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
How are these angels, aliens beings called who are on human side and who has kept us, who supports God plan, how they have manifested here and what human forces have been on the right side, some examples?
4 February 2018 12:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
4 February 2018 12:42
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Kui nii poliittark oled, siis anna mulle 90ndate algusest 5 muud olulisemat nime, peale Savisaare (mitte, et tema legend nõrk oleks)
Ja siis, anna 5 tänapäeva Eesti tip poliitika nime, kes on kindlalt rohkem ülistamist väärt.
Kui Neid nimesi pole anda kedagi, kes siis tola on (mis osas Sul silmis ta kõige enam täpemalt siis see on mis ütlesid, arvestades olukorda/si)?
Ja siis, anna 5 tänapäeva Eesti tip poliitika nime, kes on kindlalt rohkem ülistamist väärt.
Kui Neid nimesi pole anda kedagi, kes siis tola on (mis osas Sul silmis ta kõige enam täpemalt siis see on mis ütlesid, arvestades olukorda/si)?
4 February 2018 12:29
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
heasmõttes
4 February 2018 12:25
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
Kostas Tsakas You are nice.
Hey, as this audio was recorded, as they say, in proper audio original, then can You find me real original audio recording and these 2 people profiles related in this interview you send me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XM-uJy10ds
Usually all materiel that robots read in like this are suspicious.. why original people, who possessed it, afraid and did not care to invest one day to read it in?
Have you investigated magic mushrooms?
For me it seems so far, simple communist tactic, pentagram tactic (fallen ones) against Anunakies & against true iluminati . ( ilu = beauty, in Est. MIna= myself...)
Have You surely sure, that You not battling against true God friends?
Is there also some scheme going on like this the one in battle-star galactic where lost transformed creations (computer mistake + careless) return over developed without heart....?
Hey, as this audio was recorded, as they say, in proper audio original, then can You find me real original audio recording and these 2 people profiles related in this interview you send me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XM-uJy10ds
Usually all materiel that robots read in like this are suspicious.. why original people, who possessed it, afraid and did not care to invest one day to read it in?
Have you investigated magic mushrooms?
For me it seems so far, simple communist tactic, pentagram tactic (fallen ones) against Anunakies & against true iluminati . ( ilu = beauty, in Est. MIna= myself...)
Have You surely sure, that You not battling against true God friends?
Is there also some scheme going on like this the one in battle-star galactic where lost transformed creations (computer mistake + careless) return over developed without heart....?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XM-uJy10ds
4 February 2018 11:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
4 February 2018 11:18
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
4 February 2018 11:14
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
i can take a position for that with ease, as someone have to take a responsibility who takes account in to Old Testament order, that humans have to rule over Angels,
And last sentence of OT has been one of my core works anyways..
What are our preparations to recognize how to guide angels?
What are our final practical plans and demands (org. who work on it besides UN) that we can fulfill, that is correct and needed for highest Good power?
Kostas Tsakas well, if they are Creators of my home (then they have to be God original crew) then surely You do realize, what would be correct thing to do,
to these honorable, who's home You are in?
Jewish yes, say, our eating of an apple was plan, for us to take responsibility, to come to lowest world, and correct it and return back from lower to correct place through female love.
Not that i would apply there to be better places anywhere, ever, then Earth, the heart center of all Creation is.
As i am made to felt and see in these times.
Important thing to answer: Are they makers of red and blue magic mushrooms, cannabis etc? (what would be the REASON to make these things, for "opposition" / slaves? )
.:.
You know we (humankind's) got to get our story right before we get in to these kind of accusations .. old times people was afraid to talk about communist regime, or in SA Mandela times... and now we talk about these who we say, have immense power over us,.. is that not a bit un ethical or counterproductive ?
And last sentence of OT has been one of my core works anyways..
What are our preparations to recognize how to guide angels?
What are our final practical plans and demands (org. who work on it besides UN) that we can fulfill, that is correct and needed for highest Good power?
Kostas Tsakas well, if they are Creators of my home (then they have to be God original crew) then surely You do realize, what would be correct thing to do,
to these honorable, who's home You are in?
Jewish yes, say, our eating of an apple was plan, for us to take responsibility, to come to lowest world, and correct it and return back from lower to correct place through female love.
Not that i would apply there to be better places anywhere, ever, then Earth, the heart center of all Creation is.
As i am made to felt and see in these times.
Important thing to answer: Are they makers of red and blue magic mushrooms, cannabis etc? (what would be the REASON to make these things, for "opposition" / slaves? )
.:.
You know we (humankind's) got to get our story right before we get in to these kind of accusations .. old times people was afraid to talk about communist regime, or in SA Mandela times... and now we talk about these who we say, have immense power over us,.. is that not a bit un ethical or counterproductive ?
4 February 2018 11:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Veel huvitavat:
"Piret Paljak currently works at the Estonian Institute of Humanities, Tallinn University. Piret does research in Psycholinguistics, Discourse Analysis and Semiotics."
"Eesti NATOga liitumise korraldaja, riigiametnik"
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Piret_Paljak-TLU
https://president.ee/et/vabariik/teenetemargid/kavaler/4787/piret-paljak
https://maailm.postimees.ee/144255/eesti-eksperdid-noustasid-gruusiat-natoga-loimumise-alal
"Piret Paljak currently works at the Estonian Institute of Humanities, Tallinn University. Piret does research in Psycholinguistics, Discourse Analysis and Semiotics."
"Eesti NATOga liitumise korraldaja, riigiametnik"
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Piret_Paljak-TLU
https://president.ee/et/vabariik/teenetemargid/kavaler/4787/piret-paljak
https://maailm.postimees.ee/144255/eesti-eksperdid-noustasid-gruusiat-natoga-loimumise-alal
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Piret_Paljak-TLU
4 February 2018 10:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuigi ega need sõnad ja olemus laulus kõige südamelähedasem pole, pole vaju koguja vaid valulahjendaja
kuid Laari soovilaul:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SbUC-UaAxE
kuid Laari soovilaul:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SbUC-UaAxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SbUC-UaAxE
4 February 2018 10:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid sõnu nii palju vajalikke ja kuldseid, poleks kunagi enam lootnud, et Talle see võimalus neid asju öelda tuleb, ETV's
4 February 2018 10:38
Margus Meigo replied to Lee Common's comment.
Group: CIA Operative Friends
we place seeds to soil for a reason to be picked on time4 February 2018 08:42
Margus Meigo replied to Lee Common's comment.
Group: CIA Operative Friends
explain it to me, caring one who is picking up4 February 2018 08:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Reinventing NATO
Does the Alliance reflect the changing nature of transatlantic security?
An international conference organised by the New Defence Agenda
and the Konrad Adenauer Stiftung (KAS), with the support of the
North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO), Lockheed Martin,
TIPS and the Royal Institute for International Relations (IRRI-KIIB)
https://www.files.ethz.ch/isn/13488/ConferenceReport_20050524.pdf
Does the Alliance reflect the changing nature of transatlantic security?
An international conference organised by the New Defence Agenda
and the Konrad Adenauer Stiftung (KAS), with the support of the
North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO), Lockheed Martin,
TIPS and the Royal Institute for International Relations (IRRI-KIIB)
https://www.files.ethz.ch/isn/13488/ConferenceReport_20050524.pdf
4 February 2018 07:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
18 lehekülge:
Politoloogia erialal kaitstud bakalaureusetööd
1995
Heli Illipe Nõukogude Liidu kollaps. Kaukaasia konfliktid ja Venemaa roll nendes. juh. R.
Taagepera
Tiina Jokst Notariaat. Eesti notariaadi haldus juh. R. Vetik
Andres Mäe Eesti Vabariigi Siseministeeriumi suhted avalikkusega juh. R. Vetik
1996
Tiit Riisalo Eesti Vabariigi keskhaldusorganid juh. R. Vetik
Gert Antsu Venemaa poliitiline eneseotsing 1991 - 1996 juh. K. Jaanson
Toomas Danilson Impeeriumid : kasvu- ja kahanemistingimused juh. R. Taagepera
Rainer Kattel The Political Philosophy of Xenophones of Colophon juh. W. Drechler
Andro Kitus Power and the Political : Diversity and the Political in the Theories of Hannah Arendt
and Carl Schmitt
Jüri Lipping The Political Philosophy of Immanuel Kant juh. W. Drechler
Ando Möldre Interpretation of the Concept of Consultation in Article 8 of the Partnership for Peace
Framework Document juh. R. Visek
Urmas Paet Eesti ja Poola suhted 1991 - 1995 juh. K. Jaanson
Piia Pumm Läänemeremaade nõukogu juh R Toomla
Maarja Soo The Late Political Philosophy of Albert Camus juh. W. Drechler
Veiko Spoilits Eesti ja Läti tee avatud ühiskonda juh. R. Toomla
Kristel Taits Rahvusvaheline terrorism juh. R. Toomla
Riina Vällo Feministlike ideede levik eesti naisliikumises ja ajakirjanduses 1991 - 1996 juh. M. ... edas
https://skytte.ut.ee/sites/default/files/skytte/politoloogia_osakonnas_kaitstud_bakalaureuse-_ja_magistritood.pdf
Politoloogia erialal kaitstud bakalaureusetööd
1995
Heli Illipe Nõukogude Liidu kollaps. Kaukaasia konfliktid ja Venemaa roll nendes. juh. R.
Taagepera
Tiina Jokst Notariaat. Eesti notariaadi haldus juh. R. Vetik
Andres Mäe Eesti Vabariigi Siseministeeriumi suhted avalikkusega juh. R. Vetik
1996
Tiit Riisalo Eesti Vabariigi keskhaldusorganid juh. R. Vetik
Gert Antsu Venemaa poliitiline eneseotsing 1991 - 1996 juh. K. Jaanson
Toomas Danilson Impeeriumid : kasvu- ja kahanemistingimused juh. R. Taagepera
Rainer Kattel The Political Philosophy of Xenophones of Colophon juh. W. Drechler
Andro Kitus Power and the Political : Diversity and the Political in the Theories of Hannah Arendt
and Carl Schmitt
Jüri Lipping The Political Philosophy of Immanuel Kant juh. W. Drechler
Ando Möldre Interpretation of the Concept of Consultation in Article 8 of the Partnership for Peace
Framework Document juh. R. Visek
Urmas Paet Eesti ja Poola suhted 1991 - 1995 juh. K. Jaanson
Piia Pumm Läänemeremaade nõukogu juh R Toomla
Maarja Soo The Late Political Philosophy of Albert Camus juh. W. Drechler
Veiko Spoilits Eesti ja Läti tee avatud ühiskonda juh. R. Toomla
Kristel Taits Rahvusvaheline terrorism juh. R. Toomla
Riina Vällo Feministlike ideede levik eesti naisliikumises ja ajakirjanduses 1991 - 1996 juh. M. ... edas
https://skytte.ut.ee/sites/default/files/skytte/politoloogia_osakonnas_kaitstud_bakalaureuse-_ja_magistritood.pdf
4 February 2018 07:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Algne postitus from our presidet Kersti Kaljulaid :
https://fb.me/2whTwoVti + dep. mõtted
https://fb.me/2whTwoVti + dep. mõtted
4 February 2018 06:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
+ Johannes Kotkas (Dude who picked Stalin up from land )
http://maadlus.ee/johannes-kotkas-tostis-olumpialaste-vastuvotul-jossif-stalini-maast-lahti/
Stalin küsis:
Mulle öeldi, et Te olete kõige tugevam inimene maailmas. On nii?
Kotkas reageeris ootamatule küsimusele aupaklikult:
- Jah, seltsimees Stalin.
Seejärel suruti kätt, kuid siis juhtus midagi ootamatut. Kotkas võttis Stalinil käsivartest kinni ja tõstis ta õhku, nagu poisikese. Kõik olid hämmingus, kaasa arvatud riigipea ihukaitsjad. Keegi ei teadnud, kuidas käituda ja mida oodata. Kotkas hoidis Stalinit õhus, tegi tiiru ümber oma telje ja pani kommunismi kantsi suure juhi ettevaatlikult maapinnale tagasi.
Stalin kogu end kiirelt ja lausus kerge naeratusega:
- Tugevad inimesed elavad Eestis!
https://www.taskutark.ee/m/blogi/kuidas-johannes-kotkas-tostis-stalini-maast-lahti/
" Aastal 1947 pidas Nõukogudemaa järjekordset kehakultuurlaste päeva. NSV Liidu tippsportlastele sai sel puhul osaks kuulmatu au. Kremli Georgi saalis korraldati neile lookas laudadega vastuvõtt. Peoperemees oli Jossif Stalin ise. Kuivõrd NSV Liit polnud veel olümpiamängudel osalenud, oli enamik ...
Algne postitus from our presidet Kersti Kaljulaid :
https://fb.me/2whTwoVti + dep. mõtted
http://maadlus.ee/johannes-kotkas-tostis-olumpialaste-vastuvotul-jossif-stalini-maast-lahti/
Stalin küsis:
Mulle öeldi, et Te olete kõige tugevam inimene maailmas. On nii?
Kotkas reageeris ootamatule küsimusele aupaklikult:
- Jah, seltsimees Stalin.
Seejärel suruti kätt, kuid siis juhtus midagi ootamatut. Kotkas võttis Stalinil käsivartest kinni ja tõstis ta õhku, nagu poisikese. Kõik olid hämmingus, kaasa arvatud riigipea ihukaitsjad. Keegi ei teadnud, kuidas käituda ja mida oodata. Kotkas hoidis Stalinit õhus, tegi tiiru ümber oma telje ja pani kommunismi kantsi suure juhi ettevaatlikult maapinnale tagasi.
Stalin kogu end kiirelt ja lausus kerge naeratusega:
- Tugevad inimesed elavad Eestis!
https://www.taskutark.ee/m/blogi/kuidas-johannes-kotkas-tostis-stalini-maast-lahti/
" Aastal 1947 pidas Nõukogudemaa järjekordset kehakultuurlaste päeva. NSV Liidu tippsportlastele sai sel puhul osaks kuulmatu au. Kremli Georgi saalis korraldati neile lookas laudadega vastuvõtt. Peoperemees oli Jossif Stalin ise. Kuivõrd NSV Liit polnud veel olümpiamängudel osalenud, oli enamik ...
Algne postitus from our presidet Kersti Kaljulaid :
https://fb.me/2whTwoVti + dep. mõtted
http://maadlus.ee/johannes-kotkas-tostis-olumpialaste-vastuvotul-jossif-stalini-maast-lahti/
4 February 2018 06:40
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
No infos about Estonians?
And why they want, You and me and rest of the world to know about these things, by placing a control in a way that we would be able to read, understand and save all that for future (the information in Internets/books), what are the strategic advantages ?
And why they want, You and me and rest of the world to know about these things, by placing a control in a way that we would be able to read, understand and save all that for future (the information in Internets/books), what are the strategic advantages ?
4 February 2018 06:25
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
Kostas Tsakas Great leads,
Can you explain me this sentence also, about Russians:
"There are seven Temples in the world, all linked together by what we call ''Thought Machines". The Thought Machines are large crystals which "transmit thoughts and mental pictures." These temples are ideated in Tibet, that master Temple, in India, Iran, Turkey, Egypt, Morocco, and the high Andes of South America. The master thought Machine is in the Temple in Tibet. But gathered at those temples are Representatives of all of the peoples of Asia including the natives of Siberia, but not "any Russians."
All of the natives of Africa, but not any Butch, or English, or Belgians, etc.
All of the peoples of the islands of the seas. The Latin American States, the Negroes, the Red Indians - and the Eskimos of North America receive their orders from the South American Temple"
// from You last link
Can you explain me this sentence also, about Russians:
"There are seven Temples in the world, all linked together by what we call ''Thought Machines". The Thought Machines are large crystals which "transmit thoughts and mental pictures." These temples are ideated in Tibet, that master Temple, in India, Iran, Turkey, Egypt, Morocco, and the high Andes of South America. The master thought Machine is in the Temple in Tibet. But gathered at those temples are Representatives of all of the peoples of Asia including the natives of Siberia, but not "any Russians."
All of the natives of Africa, but not any Butch, or English, or Belgians, etc.
All of the peoples of the islands of the seas. The Latin American States, the Negroes, the Red Indians - and the Eskimos of North America receive their orders from the South American Temple"
// from You last link
4 February 2018 06:21
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Liisa Sarapik's post.
Eks need testi äppid erinevate luureasutuste ja turunduse inimeste jaoks ole..(kes omakorda andmed kellele iganes müüa saavad, milleks iganes..)
4 February 2018 01:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so and what is the final plan and benefit of killing God believers ?
3 February 2018 17:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
)/just, from common man view, what are the answers if told so/(
3 February 2018 17:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
they tell us.. they worship sun.. but what really ws ?
3 February 2018 17:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as then the difference would be like special need small kindergarten compared to intelligence army (the ones who worship empty sun vs living god, or how you think ?)
3 February 2018 17:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as if to take sun as it is in current day smarter Christians view, compared to God, then anyone would look complete retarded to worship something bulk of burning gas, compared to living God, innit ?
in god believing people,
in angels view, in up and down
so big empires can not worship empty things,
even the eagle is available in space, huge one some dimension up there ,right ?
in god believing people,
in angels view, in up and down
so big empires can not worship empty things,
even the eagle is available in space, huge one some dimension up there ,right ?
3 February 2018 17:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Servais Millette what is the benefit of sun worship, you think they had no ability to use psychedelics, use mediums, and spiritualists to know what is what ?
Is the sun just a burning rock or is it really empty inside and world inside it or something else or is it as a just a lamp, in a chicken farm ?
What is benefit and logic of sun worship by the ones who can see what is what, not just the story and agents who make us believe, as people worshiped empty things in the top ?
Is the sun just a burning rock or is it really empty inside and world inside it or something else or is it as a just a lamp, in a chicken farm ?
What is benefit and logic of sun worship by the ones who can see what is what, not just the story and agents who make us believe, as people worshiped empty things in the top ?
3 February 2018 17:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
wau milline sari see veel on: https://www.kava.ee/saade/309134603
https://www.kava.ee/saade/309134603
3 February 2018 14:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Anthony Nicholas LaNave III what about these, who bible talks, all characters (but Rabbi Manis Friedman is doing well), are they threatened perhaps more, and they .... u know what i mean, difference between believers and Characters among us?
3 February 2018 14:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tiiu kera /USA
3 February 2018 13:56
Margus Meigo commented on Kersti Kaljulaid's photo.
Oih, ma kohtasin seda meest netis kes selle asja desainis,
unustasin küsida, et kas see sümboliseerib, #KirjutaEestile et milline looklev meie oleme võreldes ülejäänud maailmaga.
Kuid ikkagi, sellist kunsti, me ei peaks teisi solvavalt liialt palju tegema, vaid ikka naturaalseks ja ausaks jääda, inspireeriva ja selgitava suunaga
unustasin küsida, et kas see sümboliseerib, #KirjutaEestile et milline looklev meie oleme võreldes ülejäänud maailmaga.
Kuid ikkagi, sellist kunsti, me ei peaks teisi solvavalt liialt palju tegema, vaid ikka naturaalseks ja ausaks jääda, inspireeriva ja selgitava suunaga
3 February 2018 13:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Raha lasti allavoolu
Koti oli keset jõge lõdisenud noormees varem jõe allavoolu minna lasknud. Õnneks said silla juures valvanud politseinikud selle kätte. Nii tabati vaid vähem kui poole tunniga nii pangaröövis kahtlustatavad, esialgsetel andmetel kogu röövitud raha kui ka kaks püstoli maketti, millega ähvardades riisusid nad pangakontorist kokku 73 000 krooni."
https://www.postimees.ee/1540917/pangaroovel-pages-politsei-eest-jokke
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/krimi/pangaroovlid-pogenesid-taksoga?id=12729067
Koti oli keset jõge lõdisenud noormees varem jõe allavoolu minna lasknud. Õnneks said silla juures valvanud politseinikud selle kätte. Nii tabati vaid vähem kui poole tunniga nii pangaröövis kahtlustatavad, esialgsetel andmetel kogu röövitud raha kui ka kaks püstoli maketti, millega ähvardades riisusid nad pangakontorist kokku 73 000 krooni."
https://www.postimees.ee/1540917/pangaroovel-pages-politsei-eest-jokke
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/krimi/pangaroovlid-pogenesid-taksoga?id=12729067
3 February 2018 13:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzHX8Tk7lqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzHX8Tk7lqg
3 February 2018 13:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7yYj1gXeuQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7yYj1gXeuQ
3 February 2018 13:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7yYj1gXeuQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7yYj1gXeuQ
3 February 2018 13:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
saite aru eks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzHX8Tk7lqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzHX8Tk7lqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzHX8Tk7lqg
3 February 2018 13:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid kirjutamisest vähea abi, teod ka head peavad olema, iga onaloeab
3 February 2018 13:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
puudulik õpetus on meedias
3 February 2018 13:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 February 2018 13:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 February 2018 13:00
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
Kostas Tsakas You really sure, that upper Gov's did not have double, triple agents in All levels, to assure complete victory?
As we are practical, if computer has viruses we try to make effort to clean it, lessen the harm, or at least use part of it, not just dismiss it, waste the creations of this as whole,
clones.. or the ones who does Not represent original worth, perhaps yes..
but all the others, with value, we turn in right path, one way or another, is t much value to destruct.
Why do You think " they " (who?) allow us to have this talk in here, ...why they allow to keep the internet page up what You send and why they allow this interview to happen?
You know there is way's to change text in live... human faces also in TV... so why they allow this text in internet to display same on my screen ?
How we know what letters others are reading ?
As we are practical, if computer has viruses we try to make effort to clean it, lessen the harm, or at least use part of it, not just dismiss it, waste the creations of this as whole,
clones.. or the ones who does Not represent original worth, perhaps yes..
but all the others, with value, we turn in right path, one way or another, is t much value to destruct.
Why do You think " they " (who?) allow us to have this talk in here, ...why they allow to keep the internet page up what You send and why they allow this interview to happen?
You know there is way's to change text in live... human faces also in TV... so why they allow this text in internet to display same on my screen ?
How we know what letters others are reading ?
3 February 2018 11:36
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
Kostas Tsakas but man can Only get to right path by joining in with only one Woman, one love, as She will be waiting in another presents this place where we go after life, when we have been keeping our heart so that at least one women sees it to be worth in all our doings ?
3 February 2018 11:30
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
You know, with fallen ones some fall for a reason to make harm less...
some in purpose stay low to help others higher
some in purpose stay low to help others higher
3 February 2018 11:26
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
Kostas Tsakas But what can You tell me about E & Estonians ?
3 February 2018 11:25
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
Kostas Tsakas why they hate(afraid?) so much humans with beard, promote ties-suits and want women to wear high heels?
3 February 2018 11:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kostas Tsakas yes, this is elementary, that democracy is evil if looked critically and in positive way it is slave camp managing system from Romans (but who Really made Romans, who's power they inherited, joined with (like Normans..Rus-land makers....) and who's power they removed that was here in various locations around the world? Who are worth power structures in here, who is with God? And who can be saved, so they would be in first defense in line, with God?)
3 February 2018 11:21
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
So who are the true opposite, strongest forces (good and bad ones, but specially good ones are who besides naturalist farmers and šamans) ?
Putin crew i assume is a leader of Trump as we see in here right?
Putin crew i assume is a leader of Trump as we see in here right?
3 February 2018 11:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or no?
3 February 2018 11:07
Margus Meigo commented on Kostas Tsakas's post.
3 February 2018 11:05
Margus Meigo commented on Bernhard Hils's post.
Yes, this fruit tasted good!
3 February 2018 11:02
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
is it pro Kennedy or is it anti-america ?
3 February 2018 10:59
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
well this was only thing i noticed first, as lipstick
but it matters little, if clone or not,
matters WHO'S controlling - for who it is working, and as long message is same as original wanted it, it is fine in my books, as it might be dangerous in these days for some to stick their nose out
is the message proper or is it harming?
but it matters little, if clone or not,
matters WHO'S controlling - for who it is working, and as long message is same as original wanted it, it is fine in my books, as it might be dangerous in these days for some to stick their nose out
is the message proper or is it harming?
3 February 2018 10:59
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
Electronics also as e-Estonia :)
3 February 2018 10:55
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
Establishment, the Front ("Ees"), For others ("eest") - Estonia / Eesti , First ("esimene") ... Also of letter of Mother (Ema)... our language is pretty much linked to anunakies ( Anu is one of the most natural name in our land, that is in old hyperporea location & Nakies- it is in our language "näkid / näkies" that are female power spirit manifestations, more dimensional then nymphs also called as ordinary slang for nice girls )
But what was on your mind with it?
But what was on your mind with it?
3 February 2018 10:55
Margus Meigo replied to Kostas Tsakas's comment.
You mean audio-video sync?
3 February 2018 10:48
Margus Meigo commented on Brandon Houser's photo.
Who are original owners of one and two head logo of eagles and 3 lions, etc?
3 February 2018 10:45
Margus Meigo commented on Kostas Tsakas's post.
Is a good Clone?
3 February 2018 06:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and them talk about proper sacrifice as always in parallel right
3 February 2018 06:15
Margus Meigo commented on Kostas Tsakas's post.
3 February 2018 06:14
Margus Meigo commented on IJR Blue's video.
Can we imagine, what happens, if World REALLY understands,
who are Dreamers,
the realty, time sifters and soul keepers, but for that few more movies is need to be made..with some confessions
who are Dreamers,
the realty, time sifters and soul keepers, but for that few more movies is need to be made..with some confessions
3 February 2018 06:11
Margus Meigo commented on Alexander Rockefeller Rothschild's post.
Looking really good!
3 February 2018 05:45
Margus Meigo commented on Jesus Rolando Carrillo Bohorquez's post.
Looks like Estonian's as well :)
3 February 2018 05:38
Margus Meigo commented on Anthony Nicholas LaNave III's post.
So You not so much of a fan of Roman Empire?
3 February 2018 05:29
Margus Meigo commented on Anthony Nicholas LaNave III's post.
we can make positive mayor event if he likes to
3 February 2018 05:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Clinton as well :)
3 February 2018 05:24
Margus Meigo commented on Maria Argéada-Julio Macriani's photo.
but you do look amazing
3 February 2018 05:09
Margus Meigo commented on Frederick Julio's post.
sad, why would them do so
3 February 2018 05:09
Margus Meigo commented on Anita Goetz's photo.
Perfect, natural
3 February 2018 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on Philip Abt's post.
You play in casino now? . )
Neeeh, no, do not waste on this time
Neeeh, no, do not waste on this time
3 February 2018 04:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
3 February 2018 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nüüd ku ivaja õigekirjakalal huvitatuid on ei ole kedagi :D
nu camoon
nu camoon
3 February 2018 02:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
reageerisin lihtsalt pealkirja järgi
2 February 2018 16:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
proper father figures is needed more and gentelmans
2 February 2018 15:25
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
There should be more education for women, early, how to be better women and handle this world, from handling emotions with intelligence related to world situation and to become more honest, with greater virtues,
sometimes women do things with wrong man... and it is nearly for sure, they get hurt and messed up psychology.
and specially if some women move to live in city.. you know.. this place has all kind of half minds
sometimes women do things with wrong man... and it is nearly for sure, they get hurt and messed up psychology.
and specially if some women move to live in city.. you know.. this place has all kind of half minds
2 February 2018 15:25
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Helme's post.
Koomikuid oleks tarvis, see KMD kgb klubi, vene komöödia sari on nii haledate sketsidega, et nad abi vajaks
2 February 2018 15:11
Margus Meigo replied to Heiko Kivila's comment.
Group: Eesti ususõjas
alustuseks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmUx2nY66-0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmUx2nY66-0
2 February 2018 14:34
Margus Meigo replied to Heiko Kivila's comment.
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Mul omagi kuninga sugupuu veel kokkupanemata,
kuid... küll me paneme ja teem uue Leedu-Eesti kuningliitriigi2 February 2018 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aga miks neiu püst hoopis kaunim ja kutsuvam kui ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysFrdH401k4
// .. ja me olemegi õpitule truu!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysFrdH401k4
// .. ja me olemegi õpitule truu!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysFrdH401k4
2 February 2018 14:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
indeed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_584deATvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_584deATvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_584deATvo
2 February 2018 14:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Okey, pool läks ikka kõigest täkke
2 February 2018 14:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Mul paar kontakti ka neist peredest, eks saadan neile ka lingi, vaatab mis vastavad2 February 2018 08:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Siin ka lääne inimeste poolt muud juttu suts:
"At war with Catholic Europe, Elizabethan England turned to the Ottomans, finds Jeremy Seal"
Ja üks reddity kommentaar võtab asja hästi kokku:
"t's just part of a modern trend by Muslim groups giving 'dawah' to try and claim that Mohammed the prophet effected the entire world.
Beyond that, there is also a lot of soft science academics who push these ideas to try and further back their political ideologies with regards to immigration. A recent famous example out of Sweden where an anthropologist claimed a Viking site had kufic square Arabic writings... people ate it up before it got fact checked. There was also Mary Beard claiming that ethnic Algerian roman soldiers were 'typical British families' in the early Medieval era...
All that said, I'm guessing this specific claim is saying that a person from a Qasim family, probably married with Russian or Greek nobility back in the medieval or early Ottoman era, who later married with German nobility... blah blah... The Queen has a Muslim ancestor who may or may not have been related to Mohammed.
Go back that far and we all have some relation to somebody, this stuff is almost always ideologically motivated."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/what-to-read/why-elizabethan-england-was-obsessed-with-islam/http://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/what-to-read/why-elizabethan-england-was-obsessed-with-islam/
2 February 2018 08:12
Margus Meigo replied to Eha Villems's comment.
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Suurim surmaähvardaja, otseselt pantvangis hoiab aga neid Valitsuse maafia, sarnane olukord nagu meil pealinnaga,
Kes neil see eelmine ülbik linapea oli... tema grupp kellega ta seotud.
Mul kuningapere inimesed, kui nad olid tõesed, ja tundusid, et olid silmadejärgi, ...rääkisid mis neil etehti ja mismoodi kogu meediast, igasugused üritused oma enda uudiseid välja saada, kiiresti likvideeriti uudised ning tehti tõsisemad karistused neile..2 February 2018 08:06
Margus Meigo commented on Reimo Sillamaa's post.
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Muidugi me peaksime päris väärilisest lehest ka leidma seda juttu, praegu suts kahtlase väärtusega lehed jagavad seda ainult millegipärast.
Kuid hästi veenvalt.
Muidu perekonna puu osas on päris uudiseid küll, ja isegi need on vaieldavad, mis nende lõpp tähendus on
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/25/richard-iii-dna-tests-uncover-evidence-of-further-royal-scandal
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/02/king-richard-iii-dna-cousins-queen-ancestry
Asi on selles, et Punaste poolt omatud domeenid, on need kuhu need Muhhameedi-Kuniganna lingid jõuavad, äärmisel juhul kuskile singapuri, nagu see:
https://observer.news/world/study-reveals-queen-elizabeth-ii-descendant-prophet-muhammad/
Näeb välja nagu päris leht, aga aadress on "observer.news" (lõpp on.NEWS, ehk mitte .com / .org või co.gov mis päris valitsuse ja uudiste lehtedel enamasti on)
uuring kiire näitab, et see alles registreeritud:
https://www.whois.com/whois/observer.news
Registration Date:2017-02-11
State:Panama
Country:PA
Phone:+507.8365503
Nad oma isiku info peitnud, mis ise kahtlane, kuid AINUKE weebileht, samas serveris on: jstpmedia.org ( http://www.viewdns.info/reverseip/?host=observer.news&t=1 /
http://whois.domaintools.com/jstpmedia.org ) (King Mongkut's University Of Technology Thonburi / ....ja selle emailiga näed, on veel registreeritud hunnik veidraid kodulehti: http://www.viewdns.info/reversewhois/?q=+++gamezxz%40gmail.com )
Pika jutu mõte on, et lehe enda jäljed on suht kahtlased
Kuid vaadates kui täiuslikult nad vaeva näinud selle lehega, siis see üks peaalgatajaid selle loo osas.
See muidugi esmajärgne kiire tunnetus, uuriks päriselt alguse välja ehk, aga nii üks teine asi käsil,
Alati otsida uudist ka tuntud foorumitest ja tuntud lehtedelt, need lingid alla juurde pannahttps://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/25/richard-iii-dna-tests-uncover-evidence-of-further-royal-scandal
2 February 2018 08:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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"Codex Glazier, designated by siglum copG67, is a Coptic uncial manuscript of the New Testament on parchment. It is dated palaeographically to the 4th or 5th century. Textually it is very close to Greek Codex Bezae."
"It contains the text of the Acts of the Apostles 1:1-15:3.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Glazier
nasarite, nasariitide lehelt:
"ANKH - Also known as the Long Life Seal. While Christians try to say the ankh is not a cross, make no mistake about it, the ankh is indeed another rendering of a cross. This symbol originated in Egypt and symbolizes reincarnation. Egyptians were pagans and worshipped many gods like the sun-god Amen-Rah, and the pagan sun-trinity: Osiris, Isis and Horus. The ankh and the common cross were both used equally in ancient pagan sun-worship"
http://www.nazarite.net/satanic-symbols.html
Kuigi eks neid suts fanaatilisteks ka peetakse, äärmuslike tõlgenduste pärast, mida nad meelega teevad, et inimesi mõtlema panna ja piiridest edasi nägema, saamaks täieliku ühenduseni paljudes muudes alades, nii kuis ma tajunud.
Eks neid pea ka aitama.
https://aleteia.org/2017/07/07/wait-why-is-there-an-egyptian-ankh-in-a-catholic-church/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Glazier
2 February 2018 07:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Mäletate seda, selle ajastu võiks öelda, ühte oluliseimat Jumalariigiga seotud leide, kus otse piiblis mainitud kuniga pitser leiti:
"For the first time, the royal seal of King Hezekiah in the Bible has been found in an archaeological excavation. The stamped clay seal, also known as a bulla, was discovered in the Ophel excavations led by Dr. Eilat Mazar at the foot of the southern wall of the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. The discovery was announced in a recent press release by the Hebrew University of Jerusalem’s Institute of Archaeology, under whose auspices the excavations were conducted."
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-sites-places/jerusalem/king-hezekiah-in-the-bible-royal-seal-of-hezekiah-comes-to-light/
http://phys.org/news/2015-12-israelite-judean-king-exposed-situ.htmlhttps://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-sites-places/jerusalem/king-hezekiah-in-the-bible-royal-seal-of-hezekiah-comes-to-light/
2 February 2018 07:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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märkeks veel:
" Tema tunnusteks on lehmasarved ja kuuketas.
Kui Kleopatra VII sünnitas 47 eKr Caesarile poja Caesarioni, kuulutas ta selle jumalkuningaks ja Isise pojaks "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis#Possible_influence_on_Christianity
Ja muidugi muu selline ka:
"Images of Isis with Horus in her lap are often suggested as the basis for the iconography of Mary, as images of nursing women were rare in the ancient Mediterranean world outside Egypt"
Eks siin suur ühendamine käi, ja See Ankh mis tal käes on... see üks väheseid tõestatud legaalseid piibli kuninga Hezekiah
pitseril olevaid sümboleid (see kes paganaid ja pahasi symboleid välja juuris ilmamaa pealt, ta ise kasutas Ankh'i, see absoluutselt tõestatud audentsete leidude läbi, )
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-sites-places/jerusalem/king-hezekiah-in-the-bible-royal-seal-of-hezekiah-comes-to-light/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis#Possible_influence_on_Christianity
2 February 2018 07:21
Margus Meigo commented on Reimo Sillamaa's post.
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Ma läheks siis juba veel kaugemale, Tegeliku Isise juurede
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis
Palju põnevam:
"Isis (egiptuse keeles 'troon') oli vanaegiptuse mütoloogias lehmapealine jumalanna, Osirise naine ja õde ning Horose ema.[
Teda kummardati kui ideaalset ema ja abikaasat ning looduse ja maagia matrooni. Ta oli orjade, patuste, kunstkäsitööliste ja rõhutute sõber ning kuulis rikaste, neidude, aristokraatide ja valitsejate palveid.
Jumalanna Isis oli maa jumala Gebi ja taevavõlvi jumalanna Nuti esimene tütar. Hilisemates müütides oli Isisel vend Osiris, kellest sai tema abikaasa ja kellega Isis eostas Horose[ ]. Isis äratas Osirise ellu pärast seda, kui Seth tolle mõrvas ]. Isis kogus selleks kokku Osirise kehaosed, mille Seth oli mööda Maad laiali pildunud. See müüt sai hiljem egiptlastele väga oluliseks.
Isis on tuntud ka surnute kaitsjana ja laste jumalana, kellest "kõik algused võrsuvad""
"Hellenismi ajal 4. sajandil eKr sai Isis müsteeriumiusundi keskseks kujuks ja talle tekkis hierarhiline preesterkond. 2. sajandil eKr jõudis Isise kultus Rooma ja jäi seal püsima, kuigi Senat oli sellele vastu ja käskis mitu korda kõik Isise pühamud hävitada. Tema austamine levis koos Serapise kultusega kõikjal Vana-Rooma riigis, kaasa arvatud Hispaanias, Gallias ja Britannias. Pannoonias oli Isise kultus eriti mõjukas. Isist kummardasid ka vanad germaanlased ja tema jumalateenistused toimusid paatidel või laevadel[4]. Caligula ja Caracalla ajal ehitati talle Roomasse templeid. Isise kultus püsis Rooma riigis kuni 5. sajandini.
Hilisantiigis levisid suundumused, mis lähendasid Isise kultust ainujumalakultusele.
Isist ülistati arvukates hümnides kõiksuse- ja taevajumalannana, kultuurihüvede andjana, saatuse valitsejana ja hädas aitajana (viimase tõttu sai ta lisanime Soteira[ ]. Antiikajal hakati tema kummardamisele omistama tervistavat toimethttps://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis
2 February 2018 07:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alR463oY5UM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alR463oY5UM
2 February 2018 07:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
At times it seems, people got hard time to connect Roman empire in current time and other old ones
2 February 2018 06:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Roman Empire to the NSA: A world history of government spying
You know, its bbc.. so is good even we go that
But yea, would be great to see proper history related to this, icluding all the aliens and Vatican & orders & Royals & pretenders :
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24749166
Chinese general Sun Tzu wrote in his famous treatise The Art of War: "Enlightened rulers and good generals who are able to obtain intelligent agents as spies are certain for great achievements."
Purloined letters, intercepted communications, official eavesdropping - here are some examples of spying over the ages, by enlightened rulers and not-so-enlightened ones.
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"Behind the Cold War's Iron Curtain, surveillance of the population was an everyday part of life. Nowhere was this more prevalent than in East Germany, where for nearly 40 years the Stasi intelligence service monitored and reported on the activities of its citizens, using the information to stifle unrest.
By the time the Berlin Wall fell in 1989, the Stasi had grown to more than 91,000 officers, with an active informer network of close to 200,000.
The East German surveillance state used modern technology and massive manpower to expand government spying on a previously unimaginable scale.
The United States entered the surveillance business in earnest following World War Two, when it began collecting and monitoring all telegraph information coming into and out of the country as part of Project Shamrock. It also created a "watch list" of US citizens suspected of "subversive" activities whose communications it kept tabs on as part of Project Minaret.
The operation was taken over by the newly formed National Security Agency (NSA), which co-operated with the FBI and CIA. Both programmes were shut down after an investigation by the US Congress in 1975.
Thirty-eight years later, the NSA has rebuilt Project Shamrock using the technology of the information age."
// so whatever color You are, do not take personally, if You spy'ed based on color or hired based on color to subvert groups based on color, as this is what our opponents have done, just in case and just in many other reasons, besides be on the ones they fast upfront to blame these against who they work them self,
as they know, the first attack is advantage...well,
not in these days so much, as nets get strong and eyes, mind Clear, about aims , besides all future lookers and human faults, or some other species limitations, as we will see in coming times, calmly lets hope, sooner then expected
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_race_concepts
You know, its bbc.. so is good even we go that
But yea, would be great to see proper history related to this, icluding all the aliens and Vatican & orders & Royals & pretenders :
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24749166
Chinese general Sun Tzu wrote in his famous treatise The Art of War: "Enlightened rulers and good generals who are able to obtain intelligent agents as spies are certain for great achievements."
Purloined letters, intercepted communications, official eavesdropping - here are some examples of spying over the ages, by enlightened rulers and not-so-enlightened ones.
---
"Behind the Cold War's Iron Curtain, surveillance of the population was an everyday part of life. Nowhere was this more prevalent than in East Germany, where for nearly 40 years the Stasi intelligence service monitored and reported on the activities of its citizens, using the information to stifle unrest.
By the time the Berlin Wall fell in 1989, the Stasi had grown to more than 91,000 officers, with an active informer network of close to 200,000.
The East German surveillance state used modern technology and massive manpower to expand government spying on a previously unimaginable scale.
The United States entered the surveillance business in earnest following World War Two, when it began collecting and monitoring all telegraph information coming into and out of the country as part of Project Shamrock. It also created a "watch list" of US citizens suspected of "subversive" activities whose communications it kept tabs on as part of Project Minaret.
The operation was taken over by the newly formed National Security Agency (NSA), which co-operated with the FBI and CIA. Both programmes were shut down after an investigation by the US Congress in 1975.
Thirty-eight years later, the NSA has rebuilt Project Shamrock using the technology of the information age."
// so whatever color You are, do not take personally, if You spy'ed based on color or hired based on color to subvert groups based on color, as this is what our opponents have done, just in case and just in many other reasons, besides be on the ones they fast upfront to blame these against who they work them self,
as they know, the first attack is advantage...well,
not in these days so much, as nets get strong and eyes, mind Clear, about aims , besides all future lookers and human faults, or some other species limitations, as we will see in coming times, calmly lets hope, sooner then expected
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_race_concepts
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24749166
2 February 2018 06:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
from .Mil
" Cultural Diversity Awareness Association's Black History Luncheon at Feb. 16 here.
"Black Women in History" was the theme of the event.
After citing numerous prominent, successful and well-known black women, Jackson spoke of poet, Georgia Douglas Johnson, the first black female Phi Beta Kappa graduate from Cornell University in 1905 and also a Master of Arts graduate in French from the University of Pennsylvania. Though Johnson struggled to earn a living after her husband died, she wrote poetry and was published three times. Johnson was the only poet of the Harlem Renaissance era to be published.
"During the Renaissance here in the early 1920s, black women got shut down," explained Jackson. "They were shut down by the community at large, their own communities, and too often by the men in their lives."
In one of Georgia Douglas Johnson's best known poems, "The Heart of a Woman," Jackson quoted, "The heart of a woman falls back with the night, enters some alien cage in its plight and tries to forget it has dreamed of the stars while it breaks, breaks, breaks on the sheltering bars."
"Now research is being conducted to rediscover these women of achievement," he reported.
Jackson holds a bachelor's degree in English from Howard University, a Master of Arts and Master of Education in English Education from Teachers College, Columbia University, and a Doctorate in Educational Leadership from San Diego State University. Besides serving several rolls in academia, Jackson served as an infantryman in the Marines for four years and in the Gulf War from August 1990 through February 1991.
Attending the event were: Air Force Col. John M. Wood, Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst commander; Navy Capt. Andrew Butterfield, JB MDL deputy commander; Command Master Chief Herbert L. Kelton, Command Master Chief, and other leaders along with a cross section of those working on the base.
"The CDAA is unlike any other organization in the Navy I have seen," said Butterfield. "It is a bottoms-up organization of Sailors and petty officers who take it upon themselves to encourage diversity through this annual event and pass the tradition along to new members of the Lakehurst family. It is a premier event."
"History tells the story of hard lessons earned," stated Butterfield. "Black history is exceedingly hard history earned. It's all American history and here today, we are writing what will be our future history."
http://www.jointbasemdl.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/244068/nsa-lakehurst-hosts-black-history-month-luncheon/
" Cultural Diversity Awareness Association's Black History Luncheon at Feb. 16 here.
"Black Women in History" was the theme of the event.
After citing numerous prominent, successful and well-known black women, Jackson spoke of poet, Georgia Douglas Johnson, the first black female Phi Beta Kappa graduate from Cornell University in 1905 and also a Master of Arts graduate in French from the University of Pennsylvania. Though Johnson struggled to earn a living after her husband died, she wrote poetry and was published three times. Johnson was the only poet of the Harlem Renaissance era to be published.
"During the Renaissance here in the early 1920s, black women got shut down," explained Jackson. "They were shut down by the community at large, their own communities, and too often by the men in their lives."
In one of Georgia Douglas Johnson's best known poems, "The Heart of a Woman," Jackson quoted, "The heart of a woman falls back with the night, enters some alien cage in its plight and tries to forget it has dreamed of the stars while it breaks, breaks, breaks on the sheltering bars."
"Now research is being conducted to rediscover these women of achievement," he reported.
Jackson holds a bachelor's degree in English from Howard University, a Master of Arts and Master of Education in English Education from Teachers College, Columbia University, and a Doctorate in Educational Leadership from San Diego State University. Besides serving several rolls in academia, Jackson served as an infantryman in the Marines for four years and in the Gulf War from August 1990 through February 1991.
Attending the event were: Air Force Col. John M. Wood, Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst commander; Navy Capt. Andrew Butterfield, JB MDL deputy commander; Command Master Chief Herbert L. Kelton, Command Master Chief, and other leaders along with a cross section of those working on the base.
"The CDAA is unlike any other organization in the Navy I have seen," said Butterfield. "It is a bottoms-up organization of Sailors and petty officers who take it upon themselves to encourage diversity through this annual event and pass the tradition along to new members of the Lakehurst family. It is a premier event."
"History tells the story of hard lessons earned," stated Butterfield. "Black history is exceedingly hard history earned. It's all American history and here today, we are writing what will be our future history."
http://www.jointbasemdl.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/244068/nsa-lakehurst-hosts-black-history-month-luncheon/
http://www.jointbasemdl.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/244068/nsa-lakehurst-hosts-black-history-month-luncheon/
2 February 2018 06:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
At same time:
https://books.google.ee/books?id=3ZxiAQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR88&hl=et&pg=PP8#v=onepage&q&f=false
https://books.google.ee/books?id=3ZxiAQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR88&hl=et&pg=PP8#v=onepage&q&f=false
https://books.google.ee/books?id=3ZxiAQAAQBAJ&lpg=PR88&hl=et&pg=PP8#v=onepage&q&f=false
2 February 2018 06:46
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“human computers”
"On November 24, 2015, President Barack Obama awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, considered the nation’s highest civilian honor, to 17 men and women. Among them was 97-year-old retired African-American NASA mathematician Katherine G. Johnson, selected for her contributions to the space program, starting with the Mercury missions in the ‘50s and early ‘60s, through the Apollo moon missions in the late ’60s and early ‘70s, and ending with the space shuttle missions in the mid '80s. Among other things, she calculated the trajectories of America's first manned mission into orbit and the first Moon landing.
Awarding Johnson this well-deserved honor doesn't just shine a spotlight on a single black female STEM pioneer. It also illuminates an obscure but important piece of history. Johnson was just one of dozens of mathematically talented black women recruited to work as “human computers” at the Langley Memorial Research Laboratory in the ‘40s and ‘50s. (Many of whom, including Johnson, are the subject of Theodore Melfi's Oscar-nominated film, Hidden Figures.)"
http://mentalfloss.com/article/71576/black-female-mathematicians-who-sent-astronauts-space
"On November 24, 2015, President Barack Obama awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, considered the nation’s highest civilian honor, to 17 men and women. Among them was 97-year-old retired African-American NASA mathematician Katherine G. Johnson, selected for her contributions to the space program, starting with the Mercury missions in the ‘50s and early ‘60s, through the Apollo moon missions in the late ’60s and early ‘70s, and ending with the space shuttle missions in the mid '80s. Among other things, she calculated the trajectories of America's first manned mission into orbit and the first Moon landing.
Awarding Johnson this well-deserved honor doesn't just shine a spotlight on a single black female STEM pioneer. It also illuminates an obscure but important piece of history. Johnson was just one of dozens of mathematically talented black women recruited to work as “human computers” at the Langley Memorial Research Laboratory in the ‘40s and ‘50s. (Many of whom, including Johnson, are the subject of Theodore Melfi's Oscar-nominated film, Hidden Figures.)"
http://mentalfloss.com/article/71576/black-female-mathematicians-who-sent-astronauts-space
http://mentalfloss.com/article/71576/black-female-mathematicians-who-sent-astronauts-space
2 February 2018 06:46
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https://nsarchive.gwu.edu//projects
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/projects
2 February 2018 06:44
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The mission of the Intelligence Documentation Project is to expand significantly the public’s understanding of one of the most sensitive areas of U.S. national security policy – the Intelligence Community (IC). Through extensive use of the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), the project has placed in the public domain thousands of previously classified records that describe and contextualize many facets of the IC’s history, organization, structure, mission and operations. (See also the Cyber Vault.)
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/project/intelligence-documentation-project
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/cybervault/
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB534-DIA-Declassified-Sourcebook/
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/sept11/index.html (9/11)
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB143/index.htm (The Spy Satellite So Stealthy that the Senate Couldn't Kill It)
From Director of Central Intelligence to Director of National Intelligence
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB144/index.htm
The National Security Agency: Declassified
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB23/index.html
The SIGINT Committee, now known as the National SIGINT Committee, was first established in 1958 to oversee key aspects of U.S. SIGINT activities—the identification of collection requirements, evaluation of how well U.S. and allied SIGINT activities satisfy requirements, and the production of recommendations concerning SIGINT arrangements with foreign governments. This directive is the most recent available version of DCID 6/1. While the directive remains formally classified, the full text of the document has been published previously in scholarly works and on the world wide web.6
The SIGINT Committee operated for many years with two permanent subcommittees—the SIGINT Requirements Validation and Evaluation Subcommittee (SIRVES) and the SIGINT Overhead Reconnaissance Subcommittee (SORS). In the mid-1990s two new groups were established: The Weapons and Space Systems Advisory Group, to "coordinate SIGINT on foreign weapons and space systems," and the National Emitter Intelligence Subcommittee, which focuses on SIGINT production concerning foreign radars and other non-communications signals
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/project/81/postings?page=10
Public Interest in Hidden CIA Operational Records is High
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/news/20050121/index.htm
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/project/intelligence-documentation-project
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/cybervault/
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB534-DIA-Declassified-Sourcebook/
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/sept11/index.html (9/11)
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB143/index.htm (The Spy Satellite So Stealthy that the Senate Couldn't Kill It)
From Director of Central Intelligence to Director of National Intelligence
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB144/index.htm
The National Security Agency: Declassified
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB23/index.html
The SIGINT Committee, now known as the National SIGINT Committee, was first established in 1958 to oversee key aspects of U.S. SIGINT activities—the identification of collection requirements, evaluation of how well U.S. and allied SIGINT activities satisfy requirements, and the production of recommendations concerning SIGINT arrangements with foreign governments. This directive is the most recent available version of DCID 6/1. While the directive remains formally classified, the full text of the document has been published previously in scholarly works and on the world wide web.6
The SIGINT Committee operated for many years with two permanent subcommittees—the SIGINT Requirements Validation and Evaluation Subcommittee (SIRVES) and the SIGINT Overhead Reconnaissance Subcommittee (SORS). In the mid-1990s two new groups were established: The Weapons and Space Systems Advisory Group, to "coordinate SIGINT on foreign weapons and space systems," and the National Emitter Intelligence Subcommittee, which focuses on SIGINT production concerning foreign radars and other non-communications signals
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/project/81/postings?page=10
Public Interest in Hidden CIA Operational Records is High
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/news/20050121/index.htm
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/project/intelligence-documentation-project
2 February 2018 06:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" The project on U.S. policies regarding the two Koreas produced two major collections of declassified documents covering the years from 1969 to 2010. These documents open a window on U.S. policies regarding a critical national security challenge born of the Cold War.
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/project/korea-project
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/project/korea-project
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/project/korea-project
2 February 2018 06:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/project/openness-russia-eastern-europe
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs-us-soviet-flashpoints/2016-02-05/soviet-politburo-discussed-billion
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/carterbrezhnev/ (The Carter-Brezhnev Project)
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB50/ (Uprising in East Germany, 1953)
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB42/ (Top Sec, deClas: "Solidarity's Coming Victory: Big or Too Big")
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB141/index.htm (The Velvet Revolution Declassified)
Summits Book Wins Choice Award “Outstanding Academic Title 2017”
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/news/openness-russia-eastern-europe-russia-programs/2018-01-04/summits-book-wins-choice-award
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs-us-soviet-flashpoints/2016-02-05/soviet-politburo-discussed-billion
1986 Transcript Includes KGB Chief and Gorbachev Comments
Document included in Communist Party trial exhibits in 1992
Contradicts CIA historian claims that Tolkachev was a hoax
LINKS
The Billion Dollar Spy: A True Story of Cold War Espionage and Betrayal by David E. Hoffman, (New York: Doubleday, 2015)
"[A] figment of the KGB’s creation and the CIA’s imagination" Letter to the Editor, Washington Times, July 30, 2015.
Fond 89 and the Fall of the Soviet Union by Gordon M. Hahn Friday, January 30, 1998
Washington History Seminar Webcast of David Hoffman book talkFebruary 1, 2016
Washington, D.C., February 5, 2016 – The top leaders of the Soviet Union discussed the case of controversial CIA spy Adolf Tolkachev during the Politburo meeting on September 25, 1986, according to the transcript published today in the Russian original and in English translation by the National Security Archive at George Washington University (www.nsarchive.org).
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/project/901/postings
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs-us-soviet-flashpoints/2016-02-05/soviet-politburo-discussed-billion
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/carterbrezhnev/ (The Carter-Brezhnev Project)
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB50/ (Uprising in East Germany, 1953)
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB42/ (Top Sec, deClas: "Solidarity's Coming Victory: Big or Too Big")
http://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB141/index.htm (The Velvet Revolution Declassified)
Summits Book Wins Choice Award “Outstanding Academic Title 2017”
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/news/openness-russia-eastern-europe-russia-programs/2018-01-04/summits-book-wins-choice-award
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs-us-soviet-flashpoints/2016-02-05/soviet-politburo-discussed-billion
1986 Transcript Includes KGB Chief and Gorbachev Comments
Document included in Communist Party trial exhibits in 1992
Contradicts CIA historian claims that Tolkachev was a hoax
LINKS
The Billion Dollar Spy: A True Story of Cold War Espionage and Betrayal by David E. Hoffman, (New York: Doubleday, 2015)
"[A] figment of the KGB’s creation and the CIA’s imagination" Letter to the Editor, Washington Times, July 30, 2015.
Fond 89 and the Fall of the Soviet Union by Gordon M. Hahn Friday, January 30, 1998
Washington History Seminar Webcast of David Hoffman book talkFebruary 1, 2016
Washington, D.C., February 5, 2016 – The top leaders of the Soviet Union discussed the case of controversial CIA spy Adolf Tolkachev during the Politburo meeting on September 25, 1986, according to the transcript published today in the Russian original and in English translation by the National Security Archive at George Washington University (www.nsarchive.org).
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/project/901/postings
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/project/openness-russia-eastern-europe
2 February 2018 06:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hisotry part 2:
Inter-Agency Rivalries
The NSA’s facility in Teufelsberg, Berlin, 1990. Built on the rubble of bombed-out buildings from World War II in then-occupied West Berlin, Teufelsberg gave U.S. intelligence access to communications of the former German Democratic Republic (GDR) and its alliance relations with the former Soviet Union (photo from collection of Matthew Aid).
As indicated earlier, the Johnson history shows in stark detail that NSA’s relations with the U.S. military and the U.S. intelligence community was often troubled. For example, the coverage of the NSA’s relationship with the U.S. Air Force during the early 1950s provides a history of nearly constant internecine warfare over whether NSA had the authority to control the USAF’s SIGINT activities (Book I, pp. 80-83). The Johnson study also shows how the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), along with the CIA, marginalized the NSA when it sent up SIGINT satellites. Despite NSA’s responsibilities, it had very little management or tasking responsibility for the first generation of SIGINT satellites sent into orbit by the NRO in the early 1960s. According to Johnson, “NSA was still a minor player. It had very few cleared people, and its only responsibility was to process and report ELINT data.” (Book II, p. 405)
Most revealing are details (hidden amidst a blizzard of deletions by the CIA) concerning NSA’s series of no-holds barred bureaucratic turf battles with the CIA and its predecessors that began immediately after the end of World War II and continued without interruption right up until the 9/11 terrorist attacks in September 2001 (Book I, pp. 86-107; Book II, pp. 341-343). The Berlin Tunnel episode provides a starting example. The CIA deliberately cut NSA out of the famous Berlin Tunnel operation (1954-1956), with NSA’s director, General Ralph Canine, finding out about the operation from the New York Times after the Soviets discovered the Tunnel in April 1956. This episode only served to further upset the already rancorous CIA-NSA relationship, with the Johnson history noting that General Canine “was understandably upset when he found out that he had been bypassed and left in the dark.” (Book I, p. 106) Even a NSA-CIA “peace treaty” signed in 1977, details of which are deleted from the history, failed to put an end to the seemingly never-ending battles between the two agencies (Book III, pp. 224-231). This lack of unity of effort plagued NSA’s SIGINT collection and analytic efforts throughout and after the Cold War, to the ultimate detriment of U.S. national security.
On one of Washington’s most important intelligence relationships, the Anglo-American connection, the history includes a brief but revealing discussion of the interactions of NSA’s predecessors with some of its English-speaking SIGINT partners, and the difficulties they experienced in fashioning a postwar SIGINT alliance that focused on a new target – the USSR. (Book I, pp. 13-19) The late 1945 Gouzenko spy scandal delayed U.S. acceptance of Canada as a full-fledged cryptologic partner until Ottawa signed a separate SIGINT-sharing agreement (the CANUSA Agreement) in the fall of 1949. The discovery of high-level Soviet spies operating inside the Australian government in 1947 led the U.S. to cut off Australian access to classified U.S. government information for two years. Full U.S.-Australia SIGINT cooperation did not resume until 1953, with Johnson noting that the rift “had a deleterious affect on early U.S. SIGINT efforts against the Peoples Republic of China.”(Book I, pp. 16-19)
Unlike the CIA, where the Agency’s censors religiously delete all information concerning the size of the Agency’s staff and budget, considerable detail concerning the organization and manpower strength of NSA are revealed for the first time in Dr. Johnson’s history, confirming that the Agency for most of the Cold War was the single largest and most expensive component of the U.S. intelligence community (Book I, pp. 63-67; Book II, pp. 293-294). NSA reached its historic peak strength in 1969, with 93,067 military and civilian cryptologists working for the Agency and the three military service cryptologic agencies that were subordinate to NSA. (Book II, p. 293).
While NSA’s decision to release the Johnson history is commendable, the many and frequently lengthy excisions gives pause for thought. No doubt, much about the NSA’s history necessarily remains secret, but the copious excisions make one suspect that the security reviewers have gone too far. For example, after 60 years, NSA should be able to release something about “Black Friday.” Moreover, excisions about the Berlin Tunnel project (Book I, 104-105) fly in the face of the CIA’s declassification of its internal history of that well-known operation. (Note 7) Another futile excision concerns verification problems raised by the SALT (Strategic Arms Limitation Talks) II Agreement. (Book III, pp. 202-206, and pp. 219 ff) No doubt, much of the deleted information concerns the impact of the 1979 Iranian revolution and the loss of SIGINT facilities which played a major role in tracking Soviet ICBM tests, especially intercepting missile telemetry. Given that the memoirs of President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State Cyrus Vance included frank discussions of the Iranian listening posts, it should be relatively easy for the NSA to declassify some information on SALT II verification. Not all of the excisions, however, are NSA’s responsibility. The many “OGA” [Other Government Agency] excisions are evidence of the CIA’s security review.
The first three parts of American Cryptology during the Cold War were released to the National Security Archive through a mandatory review request. To challenge the significant excisions, the Archive filed appeals, which led NSA to release more information from book II and III. The Archive has appealed the many excisions that remain with the Interagency Security Classification Appeals Panel. NSA has not yet complete work on the Archive’s appeal of book I, apparently because of delays at the Central Intelligence Agency. With book 4 recently completed, the Archive has requested the NSA to release it as well.
Matthew Aid, a visiting scholar at the National Security Archive, has written extensively on the history of the National Security Agency and U.S. SIGINT programs for Intelligence and National Security, among other scholarly journals. His book, The Secret Sentry: The Top Secret History of the National Security Agency will be published by Bloomsbury in early 2009. He thanks John Prados and Jeff Richelson for their comments.
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB260/nsa-6.pdf
Inter-Agency Rivalries
The NSA’s facility in Teufelsberg, Berlin, 1990. Built on the rubble of bombed-out buildings from World War II in then-occupied West Berlin, Teufelsberg gave U.S. intelligence access to communications of the former German Democratic Republic (GDR) and its alliance relations with the former Soviet Union (photo from collection of Matthew Aid).
As indicated earlier, the Johnson history shows in stark detail that NSA’s relations with the U.S. military and the U.S. intelligence community was often troubled. For example, the coverage of the NSA’s relationship with the U.S. Air Force during the early 1950s provides a history of nearly constant internecine warfare over whether NSA had the authority to control the USAF’s SIGINT activities (Book I, pp. 80-83). The Johnson study also shows how the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), along with the CIA, marginalized the NSA when it sent up SIGINT satellites. Despite NSA’s responsibilities, it had very little management or tasking responsibility for the first generation of SIGINT satellites sent into orbit by the NRO in the early 1960s. According to Johnson, “NSA was still a minor player. It had very few cleared people, and its only responsibility was to process and report ELINT data.” (Book II, p. 405)
Most revealing are details (hidden amidst a blizzard of deletions by the CIA) concerning NSA’s series of no-holds barred bureaucratic turf battles with the CIA and its predecessors that began immediately after the end of World War II and continued without interruption right up until the 9/11 terrorist attacks in September 2001 (Book I, pp. 86-107; Book II, pp. 341-343). The Berlin Tunnel episode provides a starting example. The CIA deliberately cut NSA out of the famous Berlin Tunnel operation (1954-1956), with NSA’s director, General Ralph Canine, finding out about the operation from the New York Times after the Soviets discovered the Tunnel in April 1956. This episode only served to further upset the already rancorous CIA-NSA relationship, with the Johnson history noting that General Canine “was understandably upset when he found out that he had been bypassed and left in the dark.” (Book I, p. 106) Even a NSA-CIA “peace treaty” signed in 1977, details of which are deleted from the history, failed to put an end to the seemingly never-ending battles between the two agencies (Book III, pp. 224-231). This lack of unity of effort plagued NSA’s SIGINT collection and analytic efforts throughout and after the Cold War, to the ultimate detriment of U.S. national security.
On one of Washington’s most important intelligence relationships, the Anglo-American connection, the history includes a brief but revealing discussion of the interactions of NSA’s predecessors with some of its English-speaking SIGINT partners, and the difficulties they experienced in fashioning a postwar SIGINT alliance that focused on a new target – the USSR. (Book I, pp. 13-19) The late 1945 Gouzenko spy scandal delayed U.S. acceptance of Canada as a full-fledged cryptologic partner until Ottawa signed a separate SIGINT-sharing agreement (the CANUSA Agreement) in the fall of 1949. The discovery of high-level Soviet spies operating inside the Australian government in 1947 led the U.S. to cut off Australian access to classified U.S. government information for two years. Full U.S.-Australia SIGINT cooperation did not resume until 1953, with Johnson noting that the rift “had a deleterious affect on early U.S. SIGINT efforts against the Peoples Republic of China.”(Book I, pp. 16-19)
Unlike the CIA, where the Agency’s censors religiously delete all information concerning the size of the Agency’s staff and budget, considerable detail concerning the organization and manpower strength of NSA are revealed for the first time in Dr. Johnson’s history, confirming that the Agency for most of the Cold War was the single largest and most expensive component of the U.S. intelligence community (Book I, pp. 63-67; Book II, pp. 293-294). NSA reached its historic peak strength in 1969, with 93,067 military and civilian cryptologists working for the Agency and the three military service cryptologic agencies that were subordinate to NSA. (Book II, p. 293).
While NSA’s decision to release the Johnson history is commendable, the many and frequently lengthy excisions gives pause for thought. No doubt, much about the NSA’s history necessarily remains secret, but the copious excisions make one suspect that the security reviewers have gone too far. For example, after 60 years, NSA should be able to release something about “Black Friday.” Moreover, excisions about the Berlin Tunnel project (Book I, 104-105) fly in the face of the CIA’s declassification of its internal history of that well-known operation. (Note 7) Another futile excision concerns verification problems raised by the SALT (Strategic Arms Limitation Talks) II Agreement. (Book III, pp. 202-206, and pp. 219 ff) No doubt, much of the deleted information concerns the impact of the 1979 Iranian revolution and the loss of SIGINT facilities which played a major role in tracking Soviet ICBM tests, especially intercepting missile telemetry. Given that the memoirs of President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State Cyrus Vance included frank discussions of the Iranian listening posts, it should be relatively easy for the NSA to declassify some information on SALT II verification. Not all of the excisions, however, are NSA’s responsibility. The many “OGA” [Other Government Agency] excisions are evidence of the CIA’s security review.
The first three parts of American Cryptology during the Cold War were released to the National Security Archive through a mandatory review request. To challenge the significant excisions, the Archive filed appeals, which led NSA to release more information from book II and III. The Archive has appealed the many excisions that remain with the Interagency Security Classification Appeals Panel. NSA has not yet complete work on the Archive’s appeal of book I, apparently because of delays at the Central Intelligence Agency. With book 4 recently completed, the Archive has requested the NSA to release it as well.
Matthew Aid, a visiting scholar at the National Security Archive, has written extensively on the history of the National Security Agency and U.S. SIGINT programs for Intelligence and National Security, among other scholarly journals. His book, The Secret Sentry: The Top Secret History of the National Security Agency will be published by Bloomsbury in early 2009. He thanks John Prados and Jeff Richelson for their comments.
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB260/nsa-6.pdf
2 February 2018 06:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Just for history:
" An important development that began during the 1960s was the growing use of SIGINT at the White House. Over the objections of the CIA and State Department, President Lyndon Johnson insisted that NSA transmit SIGINT directly to the White House Situation Room. Johnson may have been the “most avid consumer of intelligence ever to occupy the White House” and he read SIGINT constantly to support his decisions during the Vietnam War. SIGINT would continue to be available to White House officials in the years that followed, although they would use it in different ways. For example, Richard Nixon was not interested in reading intelligence reporting and his security assistant Henry Kissinger was not as “experienced” with SIGINT as his predecessor Walt Rostow had been. The Johnson history is critical of the way that Kissinger handled SIGINT: his reports to Nixon would “subsume [SIGINT] into a mishmash of sources” and not highlight it as Johnson’s advisers had. (Book II, pp. 353-354 and 486)
In spite of a declining ability to generate high-level intelligence about what was going on inside the USSR and China, codebreaking efforts against targets in the Third World improved dramatically (Book II, pp. 425-475). For example, SIGINT provided important intelligence information prior to and during the 1967 Middle East War. Moreover, SIGINT helped U.S. intelligence monitor developments in the Warsaw Pact. During the summer of 1968, SIGINT reporting coming out of NSA clearly showed that growing numbers of Soviet and Warsaw Pact troops were being deployed along the borders of Czechoslovakia. The invasion did not take the White House by surprise (it had “strategic warning”), but the CIA did not provide advance warning because CIA analysts refused to accept the possibility that the Soviets would invade the country (although a minority believed otherwise (Note 4)). (Book II, pp. 454-461). Interestingly, SIGINT also picked up what some U.S. analysts saw as possible Soviet move against Romania, which led President Johnson to make a public warning to Moscow. (Book II, p. 462)
The growing NSA presence greatly increased the vulnerability of its operators to physical harm. In June 1967, Israeli aircraft and torpedo boats attacked the NSA spy ship USS Liberty, killing 34 crewmembers, including 25 military and civilian cryptologists. Dr. Johnson concludes that based on the available SIGINT that the Israelis did not know that the ship they were attacking was a U.S. Navy ship. In January 1968, the North Koreans seized the U.S. Navy spy ship USS Pueblo, which Johnson correctly describes as an intelligence disaster of unparalleled proportions. Then in January 1969, a North Korean MiG-21 fighter shot down a U.S. Navy EC-121 SIGINT aircraft, killing all 31 crewmembers, including nine military cryptologists.
Johnson devotes a significant amount of space to NSA’s involvement in the Vietnam War, beginning with the arrival of the first American SIGINT personnel in 1961 and concluding with the fall of Saigon in 1975 (Book II, pp. 495-584). One of the major revelations stemming from Dr. Johnson’s review is that SIGINT was the principal driver of the U.S. military’s counterinsurgency operations in South Vietnam throughout the war, with most of the Army’s major search-and-destroy missions being predicated on intelligence derived from SIGINT. (Book II, pp. 534-538). On the controversial August 1964 Tonkin Gulf incidents, which served as the predicate for America’s entry into the Vietnam War, Dr. Johnson concludes that: “The White House had started a war on the basis of unconfirmed (and later-to-be-determined probably invalid) information.” (Book II, p. 522) (Note 5)
NSA’s ability to locate North Vietnamese and Viet Cong troop concentrations in South Vietnam and Laos and track their movements via SIGINT is discussed in detail, which led to a number of major battlefield successes during the war. Dr. Johnson reveals that SIGINT was able to provide significant advance warning of virtually all NVA/VC offensives from 1966 until the end of the war in 1975 (p. 539); SIGINT was the only reliable source of intelligence concerning the number of North Vietnamese troops coming down the Ho Chi Minh Trail from the fall of 1967 onwards (Book II, pp. 539-540); and NSA provided 55% of all targeting information for U.S. bombers during the Vietnam War (p. 583).
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https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB260/nsa-5.pdf
" An important development that began during the 1960s was the growing use of SIGINT at the White House. Over the objections of the CIA and State Department, President Lyndon Johnson insisted that NSA transmit SIGINT directly to the White House Situation Room. Johnson may have been the “most avid consumer of intelligence ever to occupy the White House” and he read SIGINT constantly to support his decisions during the Vietnam War. SIGINT would continue to be available to White House officials in the years that followed, although they would use it in different ways. For example, Richard Nixon was not interested in reading intelligence reporting and his security assistant Henry Kissinger was not as “experienced” with SIGINT as his predecessor Walt Rostow had been. The Johnson history is critical of the way that Kissinger handled SIGINT: his reports to Nixon would “subsume [SIGINT] into a mishmash of sources” and not highlight it as Johnson’s advisers had. (Book II, pp. 353-354 and 486)
In spite of a declining ability to generate high-level intelligence about what was going on inside the USSR and China, codebreaking efforts against targets in the Third World improved dramatically (Book II, pp. 425-475). For example, SIGINT provided important intelligence information prior to and during the 1967 Middle East War. Moreover, SIGINT helped U.S. intelligence monitor developments in the Warsaw Pact. During the summer of 1968, SIGINT reporting coming out of NSA clearly showed that growing numbers of Soviet and Warsaw Pact troops were being deployed along the borders of Czechoslovakia. The invasion did not take the White House by surprise (it had “strategic warning”), but the CIA did not provide advance warning because CIA analysts refused to accept the possibility that the Soviets would invade the country (although a minority believed otherwise (Note 4)). (Book II, pp. 454-461). Interestingly, SIGINT also picked up what some U.S. analysts saw as possible Soviet move against Romania, which led President Johnson to make a public warning to Moscow. (Book II, p. 462)
The growing NSA presence greatly increased the vulnerability of its operators to physical harm. In June 1967, Israeli aircraft and torpedo boats attacked the NSA spy ship USS Liberty, killing 34 crewmembers, including 25 military and civilian cryptologists. Dr. Johnson concludes that based on the available SIGINT that the Israelis did not know that the ship they were attacking was a U.S. Navy ship. In January 1968, the North Koreans seized the U.S. Navy spy ship USS Pueblo, which Johnson correctly describes as an intelligence disaster of unparalleled proportions. Then in January 1969, a North Korean MiG-21 fighter shot down a U.S. Navy EC-121 SIGINT aircraft, killing all 31 crewmembers, including nine military cryptologists.
Johnson devotes a significant amount of space to NSA’s involvement in the Vietnam War, beginning with the arrival of the first American SIGINT personnel in 1961 and concluding with the fall of Saigon in 1975 (Book II, pp. 495-584). One of the major revelations stemming from Dr. Johnson’s review is that SIGINT was the principal driver of the U.S. military’s counterinsurgency operations in South Vietnam throughout the war, with most of the Army’s major search-and-destroy missions being predicated on intelligence derived from SIGINT. (Book II, pp. 534-538). On the controversial August 1964 Tonkin Gulf incidents, which served as the predicate for America’s entry into the Vietnam War, Dr. Johnson concludes that: “The White House had started a war on the basis of unconfirmed (and later-to-be-determined probably invalid) information.” (Book II, p. 522) (Note 5)
NSA’s ability to locate North Vietnamese and Viet Cong troop concentrations in South Vietnam and Laos and track their movements via SIGINT is discussed in detail, which led to a number of major battlefield successes during the war. Dr. Johnson reveals that SIGINT was able to provide significant advance warning of virtually all NVA/VC offensives from 1966 until the end of the war in 1975 (p. 539); SIGINT was the only reliable source of intelligence concerning the number of North Vietnamese troops coming down the Ho Chi Minh Trail from the fall of 1967 onwards (Book II, pp. 539-540); and NSA provided 55% of all targeting information for U.S. bombers during the Vietnam War (p. 583).
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https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB260/nsa-5.pdf
2 February 2018 06:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
More history:
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Another striking feature of Johnson’s study is the candor with which it discusses the fractious and damaging relationships between the agencies which make up the U.S. government’s intelligence establishment. Among the successes and failures disclosed by Johnson’s history are:
After the end of World War II, with Soviet codes still unbreakable, the U.S. Army and Navy SIGINT organizations had relatively little to listen to. Johnson’s history reveals that as of mid-1946, the most productive source available to the U.S. Army SIGINT organization was French communications, which accounted for half of the finished reporting going to intelligence consumers in Washington.
SIGINT coverage of the Soviet Union and the Peoples Republic of China by the Air Force Security Agency (an NSA predecessor) during the early 1950s was so bad that a senior CIA official referred to this period as “the dark ages for communications intelligence.”
The discovery of high-level Soviet spies operating inside the Australian government in 1947 led the U.S. to cut off Australian access to classified U.S. government information, which was not resumed until two years later in 1949. Full SIGINT cooperation with Australia did not resume until 1953; according to Johnson, the Australian-American intelligence rift “had a deleterious affect on early U.S. SIGINT efforts against the Peoples Republic of China."
During the 1950s, relations between senior officials at the CIA and NSA were at times so bad that they impeded cooperation between the two agencies. The CIA deliberately cut NSA out of the famous Berlin Tunnel operation (1954-1956), with NSA’s director, General Ralph Canine, finding out about the operation from the New York Times after the Soviets discovered the Tunnel in April 1956.
By the early 1960s, the NSA was beginning to encounter information overload as more and more intercepted messages were stored in huge warehouses of magnetic tapes. According to Johnson, “the volume of unprocessed … tape was becoming difficult to manage technically and was embarrassing politically.”
The Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962 was a major strategic intelligence failure for NSA. SIGINT provided no warning of the presence of Soviet nuclear-armed intermediate and medium-range ballistic missiles in Cuba prior to their discovery by U-2 reconnaissance aircraft; according to Johnson, this “marked the most significant failure of SIGINT to warn national leaders since World War II.”
In April 1975, as the North Vietnamese military prepared for the final offensive to capture the beleaguered South Vietnamese capital of Saigon, ambassador Graham Martin refused to believe SIGINT reporting which clearly indicated that the offensive was about to commence, arguing that the intercepts were a “deception.” He believed that North Vietnamese wanted a coalition government, not military victory. The offensive began on April 26, 1975. Three days later, Saigon fell.
Even though the 1970s was a period of lower budgets and dramatic personnel reductions for NSA, it regained some degree of access to Soviet encrypted communications during the late 1970s. A sentence that the Agency did not delete hints at this and other major cryptanalytic successes “Even with decreased money, cryptology was yielding the best information that it had produced since World War II.”
Ten days before the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan on 28 December 1979, U.S. intelligence agencies provided “specific warning” of the invasion. The post-mortems evaluating intelligence estimates of the Soviet invasion “were unanimous in describing [them] as an intelligence success.”
During the 1960s and early 1970s, the NSA officials who ran the Agency’s domestic watch-list/eavesdropping program (Minaret) disguised the origin of their reports because they “seemed to understand that the operation was disreputable if not outright illegal.”
The NSA released the first three parts of American Cryptology during the Cold War in response to a mandatory review request filed by the National Security Archive. The excisions are currently under appeal, both at the NSA as well as the Interagency Security Classification Appeals Panel. With book four of the history recently completed, the Archive has also requested its declassification.
The National Security Agency during the Cold War
Commentary by Matthew M. Aid
The NSA’s SIGINT station in Sinop (circa 1964) was one of several sites in Turkey that monitored Soviet missile tests at Kapustin Yar (photo from collection of Matthew Aid)..
Dr. Thomas R. Johnson’s four-part top secret codeword history of the National Security Agency, American Cryptology during the Cold War, 1945-1989), three parts of which have been released to date, is a unique and invaluable study for readers interested in the history of U.S. intelligence during the Cold War or for those who are simply interested in the role of the secretive National Security Agency in the U.S. government.
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB260/
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Another striking feature of Johnson’s study is the candor with which it discusses the fractious and damaging relationships between the agencies which make up the U.S. government’s intelligence establishment. Among the successes and failures disclosed by Johnson’s history are:
After the end of World War II, with Soviet codes still unbreakable, the U.S. Army and Navy SIGINT organizations had relatively little to listen to. Johnson’s history reveals that as of mid-1946, the most productive source available to the U.S. Army SIGINT organization was French communications, which accounted for half of the finished reporting going to intelligence consumers in Washington.
SIGINT coverage of the Soviet Union and the Peoples Republic of China by the Air Force Security Agency (an NSA predecessor) during the early 1950s was so bad that a senior CIA official referred to this period as “the dark ages for communications intelligence.”
The discovery of high-level Soviet spies operating inside the Australian government in 1947 led the U.S. to cut off Australian access to classified U.S. government information, which was not resumed until two years later in 1949. Full SIGINT cooperation with Australia did not resume until 1953; according to Johnson, the Australian-American intelligence rift “had a deleterious affect on early U.S. SIGINT efforts against the Peoples Republic of China."
During the 1950s, relations between senior officials at the CIA and NSA were at times so bad that they impeded cooperation between the two agencies. The CIA deliberately cut NSA out of the famous Berlin Tunnel operation (1954-1956), with NSA’s director, General Ralph Canine, finding out about the operation from the New York Times after the Soviets discovered the Tunnel in April 1956.
By the early 1960s, the NSA was beginning to encounter information overload as more and more intercepted messages were stored in huge warehouses of magnetic tapes. According to Johnson, “the volume of unprocessed … tape was becoming difficult to manage technically and was embarrassing politically.”
The Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962 was a major strategic intelligence failure for NSA. SIGINT provided no warning of the presence of Soviet nuclear-armed intermediate and medium-range ballistic missiles in Cuba prior to their discovery by U-2 reconnaissance aircraft; according to Johnson, this “marked the most significant failure of SIGINT to warn national leaders since World War II.”
In April 1975, as the North Vietnamese military prepared for the final offensive to capture the beleaguered South Vietnamese capital of Saigon, ambassador Graham Martin refused to believe SIGINT reporting which clearly indicated that the offensive was about to commence, arguing that the intercepts were a “deception.” He believed that North Vietnamese wanted a coalition government, not military victory. The offensive began on April 26, 1975. Three days later, Saigon fell.
Even though the 1970s was a period of lower budgets and dramatic personnel reductions for NSA, it regained some degree of access to Soviet encrypted communications during the late 1970s. A sentence that the Agency did not delete hints at this and other major cryptanalytic successes “Even with decreased money, cryptology was yielding the best information that it had produced since World War II.”
Ten days before the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan on 28 December 1979, U.S. intelligence agencies provided “specific warning” of the invasion. The post-mortems evaluating intelligence estimates of the Soviet invasion “were unanimous in describing [them] as an intelligence success.”
During the 1960s and early 1970s, the NSA officials who ran the Agency’s domestic watch-list/eavesdropping program (Minaret) disguised the origin of their reports because they “seemed to understand that the operation was disreputable if not outright illegal.”
The NSA released the first three parts of American Cryptology during the Cold War in response to a mandatory review request filed by the National Security Archive. The excisions are currently under appeal, both at the NSA as well as the Interagency Security Classification Appeals Panel. With book four of the history recently completed, the Archive has also requested its declassification.
The National Security Agency during the Cold War
Commentary by Matthew M. Aid
The NSA’s SIGINT station in Sinop (circa 1964) was one of several sites in Turkey that monitored Soviet missile tests at Kapustin Yar (photo from collection of Matthew Aid)..
Dr. Thomas R. Johnson’s four-part top secret codeword history of the National Security Agency, American Cryptology during the Cold War, 1945-1989), three parts of which have been released to date, is a unique and invaluable study for readers interested in the history of U.S. intelligence during the Cold War or for those who are simply interested in the role of the secretive National Security Agency in the U.S. government.
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB260/
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB260/
2 February 2018 06:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sure not to confuse with:
2 February 2018 06:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Also not to confuse with : https://www.globalresearch.ca/echelon-today-the-evolution-of-an-nsa-black-program/5342646
Inside:
--
"In 2005, 2009 and 2013, The National Security Archive published a series of previously classified documents obtained from NSA under the Freedom of Information Act that revealed agency thinking on a range of subjects, from global surveillance to cyberwar.
What we have learned from these sources and reporting by Duncan Campbell and Nicky Hager, are that the five agencies feeding the surveillance behemoth, America’s NSA, Britain’s GCHQ, Canada’s Communications Security Establishment (CSE), Australia’s Defence Signals Directorate (DSD) and New Zealand’s Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB), are subdivided into first and second tier partners, with the US, as befitting a hyperpower, forming the “1st party” and the UK, Australia, Canada and New Zealand forming “2nd party” partners.
Under terms of UKUSA, intelligence “products” are defined as “01. Collection of traffic. 02. Acquisition of communications documents and equipment. 03. Traffic analysis. 04. Cryptanalysis. 05. Decryption and translation. 06. Acquisition of information regarding communications organizations, procedures, practices and equipment.”
“Such exchange,” NSA informed us, “will be unrestricted on all work undertaken except when specifically excluded from the agreement at the request of either party and with the agreement of the other.”
“It is the intention of each party,” we’re told, “to limit such exceptions to the absolute minimum and to exercise no restrictions other than those reported and mutually agreed upon.”
This certainly leaves wide latitude for mischief as we learned with the Snowden disclosures.
Amid serious charges that “Five Eyes” were illegally seizing industrial and trade secrets from “3rd party” European partners such as France and Germany, detailed in the European Parliament’s 2001 ECHELON report, it should be clear by now that since its launch in 1968 when satellite communications became a practical reality, ECHELON has evolved into a global surveillance complex under US control.
The Global Surveillance System Today
The echoes of those earlier secret programs reverberate in today’s headlines.
Last month, The Guardian reported that the “collection of traffic” cited in UKUSA has been expanded to GCHQ’s “ability to tap into and store huge volumes of data drawn from fibre-optic cables for up to 30 days so that it can be sifted and analysed. That operation, codenamed Tempora, has been running for some 18 months.”
Then on July 6, The Washington Post disclosed that NSA has tapped directly into those fiber optic cables, as AT&T whistleblower Mark Klein described to Wired Magazine in 2006, and now scoops-up petabyte scale communications flowing through the US internet backbone. The agency was able to accomplish this due to the existence of “an internal corporate cell of American citizens with government clearances.”
“Among their jobs documents show, was ensuring that surveillance requests got fulfilled quickly and confidentially.”
Following up on July 10, the Post published a new PRISM slide from the 41-slide deck provided to the paper by Edward Snowden.
The slide revealed that “two types of collection” now occur. One is the PRISM program that collects information from technology firms such as Google, Apple and Microsoft. The second source is “a separate category labeled ‘Upstream,’ described as accessing ‘communications on fiber cables and infrastructure as data flows past’.”
Inside:
--
"In 2005, 2009 and 2013, The National Security Archive published a series of previously classified documents obtained from NSA under the Freedom of Information Act that revealed agency thinking on a range of subjects, from global surveillance to cyberwar.
What we have learned from these sources and reporting by Duncan Campbell and Nicky Hager, are that the five agencies feeding the surveillance behemoth, America’s NSA, Britain’s GCHQ, Canada’s Communications Security Establishment (CSE), Australia’s Defence Signals Directorate (DSD) and New Zealand’s Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB), are subdivided into first and second tier partners, with the US, as befitting a hyperpower, forming the “1st party” and the UK, Australia, Canada and New Zealand forming “2nd party” partners.
Under terms of UKUSA, intelligence “products” are defined as “01. Collection of traffic. 02. Acquisition of communications documents and equipment. 03. Traffic analysis. 04. Cryptanalysis. 05. Decryption and translation. 06. Acquisition of information regarding communications organizations, procedures, practices and equipment.”
“Such exchange,” NSA informed us, “will be unrestricted on all work undertaken except when specifically excluded from the agreement at the request of either party and with the agreement of the other.”
“It is the intention of each party,” we’re told, “to limit such exceptions to the absolute minimum and to exercise no restrictions other than those reported and mutually agreed upon.”
This certainly leaves wide latitude for mischief as we learned with the Snowden disclosures.
Amid serious charges that “Five Eyes” were illegally seizing industrial and trade secrets from “3rd party” European partners such as France and Germany, detailed in the European Parliament’s 2001 ECHELON report, it should be clear by now that since its launch in 1968 when satellite communications became a practical reality, ECHELON has evolved into a global surveillance complex under US control.
The Global Surveillance System Today
The echoes of those earlier secret programs reverberate in today’s headlines.
Last month, The Guardian reported that the “collection of traffic” cited in UKUSA has been expanded to GCHQ’s “ability to tap into and store huge volumes of data drawn from fibre-optic cables for up to 30 days so that it can be sifted and analysed. That operation, codenamed Tempora, has been running for some 18 months.”
Then on July 6, The Washington Post disclosed that NSA has tapped directly into those fiber optic cables, as AT&T whistleblower Mark Klein described to Wired Magazine in 2006, and now scoops-up petabyte scale communications flowing through the US internet backbone. The agency was able to accomplish this due to the existence of “an internal corporate cell of American citizens with government clearances.”
“Among their jobs documents show, was ensuring that surveillance requests got fulfilled quickly and confidentially.”
Following up on July 10, the Post published a new PRISM slide from the 41-slide deck provided to the paper by Edward Snowden.
The slide revealed that “two types of collection” now occur. One is the PRISM program that collects information from technology firms such as Google, Apple and Microsoft. The second source is “a separate category labeled ‘Upstream,’ described as accessing ‘communications on fiber cables and infrastructure as data flows past’.”
https://www.globalresearch.ca/echelon-today-the-evolution-of-an-nsa-black-program/5342646
2 February 2018 06:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Not to confuse with:The Black Chamber
https://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic-heritage/center-cryptologic-history/pearl-harbor-review/black-chamber.shtml
Early history bits
" Toward the end of the war he was sent to Europe to meet with Allied cryptologists, but little came of these meetings. He emerged from the war with the rank of major.
Although the military demobilized its COMINT units after the war, the civilian side of the U.S. government began to appreciate the potentials of Communications Intelligence.
An agreement between the Acting Secretary of State and the Secretary of War in May 1919 created the Cipher Bureau. The original concept called for a $100,000 annual appropriation, with the Army providing 60 per cent. However, since the Cipher Bureau concentrated on diplomatic decrypts, which were of lesser interest to the Army, the Chief of Staff cut the Army's contribution and left funding of the Bureau primarily with the State Department.
Based on his leadership during and immediately after the war, Yardley was selected as chief of this unprecedented organization. He assembled a staff and began operations -- in New York City!
There were a number of sound bureaucratic reasons for locating the Cipher Bureau outside Washington, not least of which was the location in New York of several cable companies with international connections. America's first civilian intelligence agency began work in the Big Apple disguised as a company that compiled commercial codes for banks and businesses.
Yardley later claimed that the Cipher Bureau solved the systems of two dozen foreign countries. Many of the records of the organization no longer exist, so it is impossible to verify all his claims. However, it is known that he provided valuable information from Mexican communications about on the revolution south of the border.
The Cipher Bureau is best known for its work during the Washington Conference of 1921-22 and the resultant Five-Power Naval Treaty. This gathering was an attempt to limit the size of postwar navies and thus head off an international arms race.
During the conference, Yardley himself, with assistance from his staff, solved the cipher used by the Japanese representatives to this conference.
https://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic-heritage/center-cryptologic-history/pearl-harbor-review/black-chamber.shtml
Early history bits
" Toward the end of the war he was sent to Europe to meet with Allied cryptologists, but little came of these meetings. He emerged from the war with the rank of major.
Although the military demobilized its COMINT units after the war, the civilian side of the U.S. government began to appreciate the potentials of Communications Intelligence.
An agreement between the Acting Secretary of State and the Secretary of War in May 1919 created the Cipher Bureau. The original concept called for a $100,000 annual appropriation, with the Army providing 60 per cent. However, since the Cipher Bureau concentrated on diplomatic decrypts, which were of lesser interest to the Army, the Chief of Staff cut the Army's contribution and left funding of the Bureau primarily with the State Department.
Based on his leadership during and immediately after the war, Yardley was selected as chief of this unprecedented organization. He assembled a staff and began operations -- in New York City!
There were a number of sound bureaucratic reasons for locating the Cipher Bureau outside Washington, not least of which was the location in New York of several cable companies with international connections. America's first civilian intelligence agency began work in the Big Apple disguised as a company that compiled commercial codes for banks and businesses.
Yardley later claimed that the Cipher Bureau solved the systems of two dozen foreign countries. Many of the records of the organization no longer exist, so it is impossible to verify all his claims. However, it is known that he provided valuable information from Mexican communications about on the revolution south of the border.
The Cipher Bureau is best known for its work during the Washington Conference of 1921-22 and the resultant Five-Power Naval Treaty. This gathering was an attempt to limit the size of postwar navies and thus head off an international arms race.
During the conference, Yardley himself, with assistance from his staff, solved the cipher used by the Japanese representatives to this conference.
https://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic-heritage/center-cryptologic-history/pearl-harbor-review/black-chamber.shtml
2 February 2018 06:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
UNITED STATES CRYPTOLOGIC HISTORY
The Invisible Cryptologists: African-Americans, WWII to 1956
by Jeannette Williams with Yolande Dickerson, Researcher
1939-1946: African-Americans Join the SIS
1944-1946: The Commercial Code Unit
1947: Changing Demographics
1948-1951: The Dark Side of the Golden Age of
Russian Plain Text
1948-1951: Wanted – Key Punchers and Equipment Operators
1948: R&D – A Different Kind of Place
1951: Color Barrier Broken in Security Division
1950-1954: Strides toward Broad Integration;
Breakup of the Plantation
For further background on cryptologic activities
during World War II and the early days of NSA,
readers are encouraged to refer to A History of U.S.
Communications Intelligence during World War
II: Policy and Administration by Robert L. Benson
and The Origins of the National Security Agency
by Thomas L. Burns (forthcoming). Both publications
are available from the Center for Cryptologic History.
David A. Hatch
Director, Center for Cryptologic History
https://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic-heritage/historical-figures-publications/publications/wwii/assets/files/invisible_cryptologists.pdf
The Invisible Cryptologists: African-Americans, WWII to 1956
by Jeannette Williams with Yolande Dickerson, Researcher
1939-1946: African-Americans Join the SIS
1944-1946: The Commercial Code Unit
1947: Changing Demographics
1948-1951: The Dark Side of the Golden Age of
Russian Plain Text
1948-1951: Wanted – Key Punchers and Equipment Operators
1948: R&D – A Different Kind of Place
1951: Color Barrier Broken in Security Division
1950-1954: Strides toward Broad Integration;
Breakup of the Plantation
For further background on cryptologic activities
during World War II and the early days of NSA,
readers are encouraged to refer to A History of U.S.
Communications Intelligence during World War
II: Policy and Administration by Robert L. Benson
and The Origins of the National Security Agency
by Thomas L. Burns (forthcoming). Both publications
are available from the Center for Cryptologic History.
David A. Hatch
Director, Center for Cryptologic History
https://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic-heritage/historical-figures-publications/publications/wwii/assets/files/invisible_cryptologists.pdf
2 February 2018 06:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
first large-scale hiring program for African Americans began in 1944:
"The experience of African Americans at NSA and its predecessor organization mirrors the African American experience in the United States and the Federal Government in the latter half of the twentieth century.
The first African American hired by the Army Security Agency, and who later made the transition to the Armed Forces Security Agency, worked first in a segregated office. Senior supervisors were white and many of the duties were menial ones not wanted by whites.
In the 1950s, African Americans began to move into the mainstream workforce. The segregated office was abolished and more African Americans received supervisory positions.
Many African Americans advanced to NSA's senior ranks. Many of those who began their careers in the segregated work environment finished at the top of their profession.
For many years it was believed that African Americans had first been hired to work in cryptology only after World War II. Recent research has revealed, however, that the first large-scale hiring program for African Americans began in 1944. By the end of the war, a segregated office of thirty African Americans was engaged in researching messages encrypted in unknown systems, analyzing them, and producing translations.
https://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic-heritage/historical-figures-publications/african-americans/
"The experience of African Americans at NSA and its predecessor organization mirrors the African American experience in the United States and the Federal Government in the latter half of the twentieth century.
The first African American hired by the Army Security Agency, and who later made the transition to the Armed Forces Security Agency, worked first in a segregated office. Senior supervisors were white and many of the duties were menial ones not wanted by whites.
In the 1950s, African Americans began to move into the mainstream workforce. The segregated office was abolished and more African Americans received supervisory positions.
Many African Americans advanced to NSA's senior ranks. Many of those who began their careers in the segregated work environment finished at the top of their profession.
For many years it was believed that African Americans had first been hired to work in cryptology only after World War II. Recent research has revealed, however, that the first large-scale hiring program for African Americans began in 1944. By the end of the war, a segregated office of thirty African Americans was engaged in researching messages encrypted in unknown systems, analyzing them, and producing translations.
https://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic-heritage/historical-figures-publications/african-americans/
https://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic-heritage/historical-figures-publications/african-americans/
2 February 2018 06:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Just remeber, this page info is from EFF (One of the highest level, the highest level electronica authority agencies in world).
I have also spend time one of the great figures from lasting Panthers ...
" The FBI also specifically targeted the Black Panther Party with the intention of destroying it. They infiltrated the Party with informants and subjected members to repeated interviews. Agents sent anonymous letters encouraging violence between street gangs and the Panthers in various cities, which resulted in “the killings of four BPP members and numerous beatings and shootings,” as well as letters sowing internal dissension in the Panther Party. The agency also worked with police departments to harass local branches of the Party through raids and vehicle stops. In one of the most disturbing examples of this, the FBI provided information to the Chicago Police Department that aided in a raid on BPP leader Fred Hampton’s apartment. The raid ended with the Chicago Police shooting Hampton dead.
The FBI was not alone in targeting civil rights leaders. The NSA also engaged in domestic spying that included Dr. King. In an eerily prescient statement, Senator Walter Mondale said he was concerned that the NSA “could be used by President 'A' in the future to spy upon the American people, to chill and interrupt political dissent.”
The Church Committee was created in response to these and other public scandals, and was charged with getting to the bottom of the government's surveillance overreach. In response to its findings, Congress passed new laws to provide privacy safeguards, including the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. But ever since these safeguards were put in place, the intelligence community has tried to weaken or operate around them. The NSA revelations show the urgent need to reform the laws governing surveillance and to rein in the intelligence community.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId=149467
I have also spend time one of the great figures from lasting Panthers ...
" The FBI also specifically targeted the Black Panther Party with the intention of destroying it. They infiltrated the Party with informants and subjected members to repeated interviews. Agents sent anonymous letters encouraging violence between street gangs and the Panthers in various cities, which resulted in “the killings of four BPP members and numerous beatings and shootings,” as well as letters sowing internal dissension in the Panther Party. The agency also worked with police departments to harass local branches of the Party through raids and vehicle stops. In one of the most disturbing examples of this, the FBI provided information to the Chicago Police Department that aided in a raid on BPP leader Fred Hampton’s apartment. The raid ended with the Chicago Police shooting Hampton dead.
The FBI was not alone in targeting civil rights leaders. The NSA also engaged in domestic spying that included Dr. King. In an eerily prescient statement, Senator Walter Mondale said he was concerned that the NSA “could be used by President 'A' in the future to spy upon the American people, to chill and interrupt political dissent.”
The Church Committee was created in response to these and other public scandals, and was charged with getting to the bottom of the government's surveillance overreach. In response to its findings, Congress passed new laws to provide privacy safeguards, including the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. But ever since these safeguards were put in place, the intelligence community has tried to weaken or operate around them. The NSA revelations show the urgent need to reform the laws governing surveillance and to rein in the intelligence community.
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId=149467
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId=149467
2 February 2018 06:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Now is not a theory, it is clear fact, if You analyze a lot of new age black travelers in Europe lands and power mentality in places like NIgeria :
"February is Black History Month and that history is intimately linked with surveillance by the federal government in the name of "national security." Indeed, the history of surveillance in the African-American community plays an important role in the debate around spying today and in the calls for a congressional investigation into that surveillance. Days after the first NSA leaks emerged last June, EFF called for a new Church Committee. We mentioned that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., was one of the targets of the very surveillance that eventually led to the formation of the first Church Committee. This Black History Month, we should remember the many African-American activists who were targeted by intelligence agencies. Their stories serve as cautionary tales for the expanding surveillance state.
The latest revelations about surveillance are only the most recent in a string of periodic public debates around domestic spying perpetrated by the NSA, FBI, and CIA. This spying has often targeted politically unpopular groups or vulnerable communities, including anarchists, anti-war activists, communists, and civil rights leaders.
Government surveillance programs, most infamously the FBI’s “COINTELPRO”, targeted Black Americans fighting against segregation and structural racism in the 1950s and 60s. COINTELPRO, short for Counter Intelligence Program, was started in 1956 by the FBI and continued until 1971. The program was a systemic attempt to infiltrate, spy on, and disrupt activists in the name of “national security.” While it initially focused on the Communist Party, in the 1960s its focus expanded to include a wide swathe of activists, with a strong focus on the Black Panther Party and civil rights leaders such as Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
FBI papers show that in 1962 “the FBI started and rapidly continued to gravitate toward Dr. King.” This was ostensibly because the FBI believed black organizing was being influenced by communism. In 1963 FBI Assistant Director William Sullivan recommended “increased coverage of communist influence on the Negro.”
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/02/history-surveillance-and-black-community
"February is Black History Month and that history is intimately linked with surveillance by the federal government in the name of "national security." Indeed, the history of surveillance in the African-American community plays an important role in the debate around spying today and in the calls for a congressional investigation into that surveillance. Days after the first NSA leaks emerged last June, EFF called for a new Church Committee. We mentioned that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., was one of the targets of the very surveillance that eventually led to the formation of the first Church Committee. This Black History Month, we should remember the many African-American activists who were targeted by intelligence agencies. Their stories serve as cautionary tales for the expanding surveillance state.
The latest revelations about surveillance are only the most recent in a string of periodic public debates around domestic spying perpetrated by the NSA, FBI, and CIA. This spying has often targeted politically unpopular groups or vulnerable communities, including anarchists, anti-war activists, communists, and civil rights leaders.
Government surveillance programs, most infamously the FBI’s “COINTELPRO”, targeted Black Americans fighting against segregation and structural racism in the 1950s and 60s. COINTELPRO, short for Counter Intelligence Program, was started in 1956 by the FBI and continued until 1971. The program was a systemic attempt to infiltrate, spy on, and disrupt activists in the name of “national security.” While it initially focused on the Communist Party, in the 1960s its focus expanded to include a wide swathe of activists, with a strong focus on the Black Panther Party and civil rights leaders such as Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
FBI papers show that in 1962 “the FBI started and rapidly continued to gravitate toward Dr. King.” This was ostensibly because the FBI believed black organizing was being influenced by communism. In 1963 FBI Assistant Director William Sullivan recommended “increased coverage of communist influence on the Negro.”
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/02/history-surveillance-and-black-community
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/02/history-surveillance-and-black-community
2 February 2018 06:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mis arvad Yana Toom?
2 February 2018 05:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 February 2018 05:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And at first comes "Beauty of Putinism"
https://www.facebook.com/RussBangFans/photos/a.1431374667105127.1073741827.1431372943771966/1494477397461520/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/RussBangFans/photos/a.1431374667105127.1073741827.1431372943771966/1494477397461520/?type=3&theater
2 February 2018 05:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Strange that actually this tag will search up:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/694484810637560/?ref=br_rs
https://www.facebook.com/groups/694484810637560/?ref=br_rs
Ахтунг-лента "Blow up Putinism"
2 February 2018 05:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Longer here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopkAGdb8vw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopkAGdb8vw
2 February 2018 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on NSA - National Cryptologic Museum's photo.
Fine but just remeber Mike Wallence and Morgan Freeman talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRnTovm26I4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRnTovm26I4
2 February 2018 04:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
must know right time when to left a ring,
so the loss can be bigger win then proper loss with no doubt
so the loss can be bigger win then proper loss with no doubt
2 February 2018 02:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But then again.. we all get older... and then Someone Yonger comes.. ("10ys" later) from Britain boxing family and turns the tables
as hardly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6QFn-8P0eM
as hardly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6QFn-8P0eM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6QFn-8P0eM
2 February 2018 02:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Armenial-german King Abraham
reminded me for some reason, from correct corner a Valdimir :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUdy1x61zlA
PS, on that day
On 21 September 2008, Abraham and fellow boxer Vic Darchinyan were honored by Armenian President Serge Sargsyan during a 20th anniversary celebration of the nation's independence. Both men were awarded with medals "For the great services for Armenia" of the first degree.
reminded me for some reason, from correct corner a Valdimir :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUdy1x61zlA
PS, on that day
On 21 September 2008, Abraham and fellow boxer Vic Darchinyan were honored by Armenian President Serge Sargsyan during a 20th anniversary celebration of the nation's independence. Both men were awarded with medals "For the great services for Armenia" of the first degree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUdy1x61zlA
2 February 2018 02:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aga kõik naised, isegi need kes hullud (kes kallale tulnud), on olnud küll mul "10ne pallised" seega.. midagi on siin imelikku
siinkohal mõtlengi, jeerum, mis saab nendega siis kui kohtuvad nendega, kes ei häbene naistega kaklemist ja lausa ise seda ootavad... loodan, et see vaim neist enne loobub.
Kuigi.. eks siit peab ise ka õppima, et kõik mis särab pole lõpuni siiras
siinkohal mõtlengi, jeerum, mis saab nendega siis kui kohtuvad nendega, kes ei häbene naistega kaklemist ja lausa ise seda ootavad... loodan, et see vaim neist enne loobub.
Kuigi.. eks siit peab ise ka õppima, et kõik mis särab pole lõpuni siiras
2 February 2018 02:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Beibendusektor
https://fp.lhv.ee/forum/free/121756?locale=et&postId=2781012
https://fp.lhv.ee/forum/free/121756?locale=et&postId=2781012
https://fp.lhv.ee/forum/free/121756?locale=et&postId=2781012
1 February 2018 05:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eestis teenivaid Taani sõdureid hoiatati liiga ilusate naiste eest (84)
Kadri Veermäe
Kommentaare palju huvitavaid:
"Tapa peaks kõrgeima iibega linn eestis olema.
Vanasti rootslased ja taanlased rüüstades eestimaad viljastasid ka naisi vastu nende tahet, tänapäeval ei pea rüüstama ega vägistama kõik tuuakse kandikul kätte...... "
"Ilmselgelt pole Hal-Valhallal aimugi ajaloost, ning ei tea isegi Ilya Ehrenburgi, kes lasi muuhulgas 1944-45 lennukitelt punaarmeele visata propagandapostereid kus käskis vägistada ja tappa kõik mis liigub."
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Millise riigi teenistuses oli sm. Ehrenburg? Oletan, et Taani:D
Nagu näha ei vastanud reeglitele kommentaar kus kirjutasin, et naiste viljastamine vastu nende tahtmist on pikaajaline vene traditsioon mis sai alguse Liivi sõjast ja jätkus II MS-s.
Millise riigi teenituses on mode, kes laseb siin õlmitseda Olgino trollidel kes väidavad nagu oleks NATO liitlased taanlased siin eesti naisi vägistamas kuid niipea kui tuleb vihje venelastele kommentaar kustutatakse.
Jah, nõustun reeglitega mis kehtivad ainult eestlastele. "
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/valismaa/eestis-teenivaid-taani-sodureid-hoiatati-liiga-ilusate-naiste-eest?id=80882765
Kadri Veermäe
Kommentaare palju huvitavaid:
"Tapa peaks kõrgeima iibega linn eestis olema.
Vanasti rootslased ja taanlased rüüstades eestimaad viljastasid ka naisi vastu nende tahet, tänapäeval ei pea rüüstama ega vägistama kõik tuuakse kandikul kätte...... "
"Ilmselgelt pole Hal-Valhallal aimugi ajaloost, ning ei tea isegi Ilya Ehrenburgi, kes lasi muuhulgas 1944-45 lennukitelt punaarmeele visata propagandapostereid kus käskis vägistada ja tappa kõik mis liigub."
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Millise riigi teenistuses oli sm. Ehrenburg? Oletan, et Taani:D
Nagu näha ei vastanud reeglitele kommentaar kus kirjutasin, et naiste viljastamine vastu nende tahtmist on pikaajaline vene traditsioon mis sai alguse Liivi sõjast ja jätkus II MS-s.
Millise riigi teenituses on mode, kes laseb siin õlmitseda Olgino trollidel kes väidavad nagu oleks NATO liitlased taanlased siin eesti naisi vägistamas kuid niipea kui tuleb vihje venelastele kommentaar kustutatakse.
Jah, nõustun reeglitega mis kehtivad ainult eestlastele. "
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/valismaa/eestis-teenivaid-taani-sodureid-hoiatati-liiga-ilusate-naiste-eest?id=80882765
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/valismaa/eestis-teenivaid-taani-sodureid-hoiatati-liiga-ilusate-naiste-eest?id=80882765
1 February 2018 05:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi igasuguste väljapressimiste, psüholoogiliste kaardistamiste ja palju muu tarvis ka.. võimalused on nii suured sellise lehe omanikul, kes pole sõralik selle rahva tuleviku suhtes või neid kasutada soovib.. et siin raamatujägu materiali on mida kirjeldada
1 February 2018 05:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid arvestades, et me CV online KOGU EESTI RAHVA töösuhete ja tööajaloo andmebaasi (koos aktiivse lehe ja firmaga) vene riigile müüsime, siis eriti raske vist pole spioone leida ja palgata, enam parimat ostu ei ole võimalik,
Töötukassa andmebaas ka ei konkureeriks, kuid selle saab juba nagunii muudpidi ka vast kätte.
Töötukassa andmebaas ka ei konkureeriks, kuid selle saab juba nagunii muudpidi ka vast kätte.
1 February 2018 05:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 February 2018 05:29
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1 February 2018 05:29
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1 February 2018 05:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://groups.thrivemovement.com/thrive-estonia
" Võltsitud Uudised on poliitiliselt mitte-korrektne meedia-väljaanne. Me aitame avada inimeste silmi ja näha neil tõde, miski pole üllam!
" We rush impetuously into novelty, driven by a mounting sense of insufficiency, dissatisfaction, and restlessness. We no longer live on what we have, but on promises, no longer in the light of the present day, but in the darkness of the future, which, we expect, will at last bring the proper sunrise. We refuse to recognize that everything better is purchased at the price of something worse; that, for example, the hope of greater freedom is canceled out by increased enslavement to the state, not to speak of the terrible perils to which the most brilliant discoveries of science expose us.
"Hey my name is Viik. Iam a new inspired activist. Ive seen all the movies of The Zeitgeist movement and now when i saw The Thrive that is more complete and has easier solutions to wake people up from this madness, i am ready to help you and the society as much as possible.
" Võltsitud Uudised on poliitiliselt mitte-korrektne meedia-väljaanne. Me aitame avada inimeste silmi ja näha neil tõde, miski pole üllam!
" We rush impetuously into novelty, driven by a mounting sense of insufficiency, dissatisfaction, and restlessness. We no longer live on what we have, but on promises, no longer in the light of the present day, but in the darkness of the future, which, we expect, will at last bring the proper sunrise. We refuse to recognize that everything better is purchased at the price of something worse; that, for example, the hope of greater freedom is canceled out by increased enslavement to the state, not to speak of the terrible perils to which the most brilliant discoveries of science expose us.
"Hey my name is Viik. Iam a new inspired activist. Ive seen all the movies of The Zeitgeist movement and now when i saw The Thrive that is more complete and has easier solutions to wake people up from this madness, i am ready to help you and the society as much as possible.
1 February 2018 02:14
Margus Meigo commented on Võltsitud Uudised's post.
Õigesti ajastatud Sheering . )
1 February 2018 02:10
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http://katehon.com/article/washington-reaches-new-heights-insanity-kremlin-report
http://katehon.com/article/washington-reaches-new-heights-insanity-kremlin-report
1 February 2018 01:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
85 years ago, on January 30, 1933, the Kaiser general-field marshal, the president of the Weimar Republic, Paul von Hindenburg, appointed the former corporal of the same army, the Führer of the National Socialist German Party Adolf Hitler, the Reich Chancellor of Germany. It was the darkest time of the Nazi dictatorship, one of the most terrible regimes in the history of mankind.
Hitler's Ideology
The nature of this terrible regime is still much simplistic for many people, just like the forces that stood behind it. Hitler always remained an independent political figure, with his own ideology. However, some influential forces in the West shared this ideology, many sympathized it. This played the decisive role in the fact that Adolf Hitler could become the Fuhrer of the German Reich, and then conquered all of Europe and planned the world domination.
Hitler and Nazism also partly became the result of the collapse of the monarchical statehood in Europe. In its essence, Nazism was revolutionary and hostile to bourgeois society, as well as communism. However, Hitler's popular comparison with Stalin is correct only in the sense that they were both totalitarian dictators whose cult of personality in the 30s-40s was the basis of the ideology of both Germany and the USSR. But Stalin was not the founder of Bolshevism, he was one of Lenin's ancestors.
Hitler also positioned himself as the main organizer of the Nazi revolution. In this regard, he had much more in common with Lenin and Trotsky, although Hitler declared himself to be their mortal enemy. But, just like Lenin, Hitler was an atheist and a socialist. Basically, Hitler did not reject socialist and Marxist ideas.
More Leftist than Rightist
Having come to power, Hitler gradually introduced a socialist economic system in Germany. A four-year plan for the development of the country was introduced, and by 1938 independent private property was virtually eliminated. During the war, for all employees of the Third Reich, labor books were introduced. Entrepreneurs and business executives carried out orders and instructions of the Imperial Ministry of Economics and the commissioner for a four-year plan. If one of them did not comply with the decrees, then he stepped back from running his business. When the largest German industrialist Fritz Thiessen became too critical of the Nazi order and emigrated to Switzerland, his enterprise was immediately nationalized. By the beginning of the Second World War, the Nazis liquidated and closed more than one million enterprises, primarily small and medium-sized businesses.
The Nazis introduced a red flag with a swastika, celebrated May Day, addressed each other "Kamerad" (comrade).
On the one hand, the political platform of the Nazi party was quite socialist. Here are its main points: all citizens have not only the right, but also the duty to participate in elections; every citizen of Germany must work for the common good; illegal profits are confiscated; nationalization of all large enterprises; Workers and employees participate in the profits of large-scale industries; the pension should be decent; the state support of motherhood and the encouragement of youth in development.
However, in the laws of Hitler there were people who had no political and social rights: Jews and other "racially defective" "non-citizens". Paragraphs 4 and 5 of the Program of the Nazi Party were as follows: "Citizenship should be granted on racial grounds." Jews will not be citizens of Germany, all non-Germans can only be guests. "
So, the widespread notion of National Socialism as an extreme right political movement is not true: it was essentially leftist and socialist, being both racist and xenophobic.
Hitler and Monarchs
Nazis, tolerant of the Hohenzollern Protestant dynasty, persecuted representatives of Catholic monarchal clans in every possible way. Thus, the Gestapo arrested and thrown into concentration camps the Princess Mafalda of Savoy, the wife of Prince Philip of Hesse-Rumpenheim, who did not recognize the Nazi regime. In 1943, she was deceived in Rome on the territory of the German embassy and, after a series of interrogations, was taken to the concentration camp Buchenwald. Mafalda's husband, Philippe of Hesse, was also arrested in 1943 and placed in the concentration camp of Dachau.
The entire Bavarian royal house of Wittelsbach, to which Prince Albrecht of Bavaria also belonged, opposed the Nazi regime and refused to join the Nazi party. In October 1944 Albert and his wife Princess Maria together with the children were arrested and sent to the concentration camp of Sachsenhausen in Oranienburg. In April 1945, the family was moved to the concentration camp of Dachau, where it was later liberated by the American army.
Prince Francis Xavier of Bourbon-Parma was arrested by the Gestapo in 1944. Prince was the head of the Parma Bourbons and titular Duke of Parma and Pianchentsi. In 1945 he was released by the American army.
In 1943, the children of the heir to the Austrian throne, Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his morganatic wife, the brightest duchess Sophia Hohenberg, were arrested and sent to Dachau - Brothers Maximilian and Ernst, who supported Austria's independence and stood against the Anschluss and the Reich. The brothers staunchly demolished all the humiliations of imprisonment and treated comradely with other prisoners. Thanks to his wife's petitions before Hermann Goering, Maximilian was released after six months of imprisonment. Ernst was transferred to the concentration camp Buchenwald. He had been in concentration camps for a total of more than five years.
Hitler and Religion
The anti-Christian essence of Nazism was not at first publicized. Hitler realized that it was impossible to manifest it in Christian Germany. Therefore, in many cities that Hitler attended during the election campaign, he was met with a Church bell ringing, and his passionate speeches ended with a devout "Amen!". But in reality, Hitler and the Nazis really hated Christianity.
Reichsleiter M. Bormann stated: "National-socialist and Christian ideas are incompatible ... If therefore in the future our youth would know nothing about Christianity, it will disappear." Bormann also expressed his confidence that the swastika must replace the cross everywhere.
The leaders of the Third Reich were very attracted by the experience of anti-church persecutions in the USSR. Hitler went much further, starting to create his religious teachings. It was based on the teachings of blood and race and a frank break with the moral principles of Christianity. In this religion the Old Testament was rejected as a religious book. The Apostle Paul was declared a "falsifier of the Gospel," and the existing Churches were called "the product of the Judeo-Syrian aspirations of the apostles." Together with the Old Testament roots of Christianity, all the New Testament dogma, the "magic" of the sacraments and the hierarchy were abolished, the Lord Jesus Christ was regarded as one of the spiritual leaders, along with those that preceded him in other religions.
occultism with satanic features
The basis of the Nazi Reich was occultism with satanic features. It was raised by the leaders of the Third Reich to an unprecedented height. Among the high-ranking members of the party, there were many adherents of occult beliefs and rituals. In 1934, in the medieval castle of Wevelsburg Nazis housed the Archaeological Museum, the occult library, the Institute of Ancient History and the Nordic Academy of SS. In the North Tower, was created the "sanctuary" of the Nazi "new religion", which was a symbiosis of ancient German paganism, pseudo-Christianity, and occultism. V. Schellenberg recalled: "Vevelsburg was a kind of SS monastery, where once a year the general of the order held a meeting of the secret consistory, where everyone who belonged to the highest leadership should exercise their spirit in the art of concentration."
Imperianews.com
Hitler's Ideology
The nature of this terrible regime is still much simplistic for many people, just like the forces that stood behind it. Hitler always remained an independent political figure, with his own ideology. However, some influential forces in the West shared this ideology, many sympathized it. This played the decisive role in the fact that Adolf Hitler could become the Fuhrer of the German Reich, and then conquered all of Europe and planned the world domination.
Hitler and Nazism also partly became the result of the collapse of the monarchical statehood in Europe. In its essence, Nazism was revolutionary and hostile to bourgeois society, as well as communism. However, Hitler's popular comparison with Stalin is correct only in the sense that they were both totalitarian dictators whose cult of personality in the 30s-40s was the basis of the ideology of both Germany and the USSR. But Stalin was not the founder of Bolshevism, he was one of Lenin's ancestors.
Hitler also positioned himself as the main organizer of the Nazi revolution. In this regard, he had much more in common with Lenin and Trotsky, although Hitler declared himself to be their mortal enemy. But, just like Lenin, Hitler was an atheist and a socialist. Basically, Hitler did not reject socialist and Marxist ideas.
More Leftist than Rightist
Having come to power, Hitler gradually introduced a socialist economic system in Germany. A four-year plan for the development of the country was introduced, and by 1938 independent private property was virtually eliminated. During the war, for all employees of the Third Reich, labor books were introduced. Entrepreneurs and business executives carried out orders and instructions of the Imperial Ministry of Economics and the commissioner for a four-year plan. If one of them did not comply with the decrees, then he stepped back from running his business. When the largest German industrialist Fritz Thiessen became too critical of the Nazi order and emigrated to Switzerland, his enterprise was immediately nationalized. By the beginning of the Second World War, the Nazis liquidated and closed more than one million enterprises, primarily small and medium-sized businesses.
The Nazis introduced a red flag with a swastika, celebrated May Day, addressed each other "Kamerad" (comrade).
On the one hand, the political platform of the Nazi party was quite socialist. Here are its main points: all citizens have not only the right, but also the duty to participate in elections; every citizen of Germany must work for the common good; illegal profits are confiscated; nationalization of all large enterprises; Workers and employees participate in the profits of large-scale industries; the pension should be decent; the state support of motherhood and the encouragement of youth in development.
However, in the laws of Hitler there were people who had no political and social rights: Jews and other "racially defective" "non-citizens". Paragraphs 4 and 5 of the Program of the Nazi Party were as follows: "Citizenship should be granted on racial grounds." Jews will not be citizens of Germany, all non-Germans can only be guests. "
So, the widespread notion of National Socialism as an extreme right political movement is not true: it was essentially leftist and socialist, being both racist and xenophobic.
Hitler and Monarchs
Nazis, tolerant of the Hohenzollern Protestant dynasty, persecuted representatives of Catholic monarchal clans in every possible way. Thus, the Gestapo arrested and thrown into concentration camps the Princess Mafalda of Savoy, the wife of Prince Philip of Hesse-Rumpenheim, who did not recognize the Nazi regime. In 1943, she was deceived in Rome on the territory of the German embassy and, after a series of interrogations, was taken to the concentration camp Buchenwald. Mafalda's husband, Philippe of Hesse, was also arrested in 1943 and placed in the concentration camp of Dachau.
The entire Bavarian royal house of Wittelsbach, to which Prince Albrecht of Bavaria also belonged, opposed the Nazi regime and refused to join the Nazi party. In October 1944 Albert and his wife Princess Maria together with the children were arrested and sent to the concentration camp of Sachsenhausen in Oranienburg. In April 1945, the family was moved to the concentration camp of Dachau, where it was later liberated by the American army.
Prince Francis Xavier of Bourbon-Parma was arrested by the Gestapo in 1944. Prince was the head of the Parma Bourbons and titular Duke of Parma and Pianchentsi. In 1945 he was released by the American army.
In 1943, the children of the heir to the Austrian throne, Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his morganatic wife, the brightest duchess Sophia Hohenberg, were arrested and sent to Dachau - Brothers Maximilian and Ernst, who supported Austria's independence and stood against the Anschluss and the Reich. The brothers staunchly demolished all the humiliations of imprisonment and treated comradely with other prisoners. Thanks to his wife's petitions before Hermann Goering, Maximilian was released after six months of imprisonment. Ernst was transferred to the concentration camp Buchenwald. He had been in concentration camps for a total of more than five years.
Hitler and Religion
The anti-Christian essence of Nazism was not at first publicized. Hitler realized that it was impossible to manifest it in Christian Germany. Therefore, in many cities that Hitler attended during the election campaign, he was met with a Church bell ringing, and his passionate speeches ended with a devout "Amen!". But in reality, Hitler and the Nazis really hated Christianity.
Reichsleiter M. Bormann stated: "National-socialist and Christian ideas are incompatible ... If therefore in the future our youth would know nothing about Christianity, it will disappear." Bormann also expressed his confidence that the swastika must replace the cross everywhere.
The leaders of the Third Reich were very attracted by the experience of anti-church persecutions in the USSR. Hitler went much further, starting to create his religious teachings. It was based on the teachings of blood and race and a frank break with the moral principles of Christianity. In this religion the Old Testament was rejected as a religious book. The Apostle Paul was declared a "falsifier of the Gospel," and the existing Churches were called "the product of the Judeo-Syrian aspirations of the apostles." Together with the Old Testament roots of Christianity, all the New Testament dogma, the "magic" of the sacraments and the hierarchy were abolished, the Lord Jesus Christ was regarded as one of the spiritual leaders, along with those that preceded him in other religions.
occultism with satanic features
The basis of the Nazi Reich was occultism with satanic features. It was raised by the leaders of the Third Reich to an unprecedented height. Among the high-ranking members of the party, there were many adherents of occult beliefs and rituals. In 1934, in the medieval castle of Wevelsburg Nazis housed the Archaeological Museum, the occult library, the Institute of Ancient History and the Nordic Academy of SS. In the North Tower, was created the "sanctuary" of the Nazi "new religion", which was a symbiosis of ancient German paganism, pseudo-Christianity, and occultism. V. Schellenberg recalled: "Vevelsburg was a kind of SS monastery, where once a year the general of the order held a meeting of the secret consistory, where everyone who belonged to the highest leadership should exercise their spirit in the art of concentration."
Imperianews.com
1 February 2018 01:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Dimitris Konstantakopoulos
And what do you think about modern day Russia? Is Putin a popular leader in Greece now? What is the attitude of Greeks towards Russians?
There are historic ties between Greece and Russia, which go back centuries. The Modern Greek national project was a project of believers who’d fought against the crusaders, who had said that they wanted to bring Christ to the Middle East but, along the way, crushed Constantinople for the first time in 1204 and then fought against the Ottomans. Russia, for both spiritual and geopolitical reasons, was a source of great hope for the Greeks throughout the whole Ottoman period. Then, when they had enlightened friends and the revolution, this was the second source of inspiration for Greece, there were two sources of inspiration and they continued to be.
The military forces of the Russian Empire stood at the gates of Constantinople several times and they were ready to take and liberate it and give it back to Greece, but the British and European powers always intervened in order to save the Ottomans.
You know that in Greek history, the relationship between them was a little bit strange too. We have very good intentions but sometimes the powers in both Athens and Moscow were not ready to do what was needed to create and sustain this kind of alliance. However, there is a huge capital of sympathy, which is not just psychological; it is of course cultural, but it has a very fundamental objective basis. This is the following: Greeks are, by the nature of their national project, maybe the only country in Europe which didn’t have colonies; it was a project of the Byzantine Empire and it was also an anti-imperialist project to save Greece from Western forces, which were supposed to be our allies but sometimes were our enemies. In this way we feel that Russia is very important as the center of the counterweight to this monopoly of planetary power which would make Hitler or Stalin look like children. This is the role that Russia is supposed to play, even if it doesn’t want to.
Russia is Katehon in the modern world, consciously or unconsciously, because Russia plays this role, preventing the New World Order from coming.
It is the same thing with Syriza; they are playing a role in the imagination of all European citizens, which they hadn’t planned or prepared to do, and I believe Russia, by the force of these things and probably due to people who are conscious of the necessity, is being called upon to play an extremely important role in human civilization.
I absolutely agree with you; you know this concept that Moscow is the Third Rome. So we believe that we are Katehon, protector of the faith, and we hope that this spiritual revival of Russia in the last 25-30 years will also happen in other parts of the former Byzantine Empire. In the last thirty years we have built 30 thousand new churches, 700 new monasteries, and this is unprecedented after the period of iconoclasm; this revival in Russia is a good example of hope also. I've heard there are some proposals in Greece and in Russia that Constantinople, or Istanbul, will be Christian again. What is the feeling of the Greek people; do they still feel pain for their former capital?
First of all, the Greeks suffered a huge defeat in 1922: half of the Greek nation was somehow destroyed, killed or forced to emigrate to what is modern Greece. I think this was the end of any serious idea of reconciling those lands. By the way, there is a different enemy now, which is much more threatening than what Turkey could ever do to us: the dominating forces of international finance and the German leaders.
I've asked my Serbian friends what the reasons were that their country was dominated by Turkey for 150 years. Did you know that during Kosovo battle, the choice was given to the Serbian king: either you choose the kingdom of heaven and in this case, you will all die and your country will be destroyed - there will be a dependent state for many centuries but you will have many saints and you will be great in the eyes of God; or choose this materialistic world - people will be alive but you will not be so good for the Lord, you will not have this treasury in heaven; the Serbs preferred to die and to be in heaven. Those Serbian friends told me that despite the fact that 'turkocracy' was bad, the good aspect of it was that they were religiously tolerant, so they didn’t persecute the church and they protected Serbia from the bad influences of the West: from revolution and liberalism. We know that until now, Serbs are maybe the main allies of Russia and they are very patriotic and like Russia. This is like a miracle, because if we take Bulgaria, they are not so strongly pro-Russian. So do you think that Turkish dominance over Greece also had some positive effects or only negative ones?
I personally cannot think of any kind of positive effects.
But why, if God rules the world? Why did it happen to the Greeks?
This is not a question you can ask me.
Why not? You are a thinker and an intellectual.
Listen – why did you have Mongol rule for 200 years? I don’t ever ask God about what happens to humans. What is more interesting is for us to try to dominate our own history, because we are living in a pre-historic and a barbarous world. You know Samuel Huntington has proposed this idea of civilizations; I would propose to unite all faiths and all people against the barbarism of financial totalitarianism. You see what happened, for instance, in the Arab world: we had classical imperialism where the imperial powers wanted to conquer countries; now we have a new form of imperialism. They are destroying the most important Arab countries: Iraq, Syria, Libya, Egypt; half of them are literally destroyed, so this is a world where we are hiding and we must stop this degeneration of humankind.
So what do you think of the future of the Islamic factor? The Halifat, as they call it, is it expanding and what is the danger of radical Islamism spreading to Europe? For example, in Greece, are there many mosques and Muslims or not?
There are not so many mosques; there are many Muslims because of immigrants who are coming. This is quite normal, because western countries destroy their countries; I am wondering why people are still living in Libya or Syria; not all of them try to come to Europe. I think there is, of course, a problem with radical Islamism and extremism, but you should remember that this is fundamentally the result of western colonial and imperialist policy in the Middle East. They have tried to concur with [the standards of] national sovereignty; they have made use of nationalistic movements, socialist movements, communist movements and the western powers have intervened in a massive way for two hundred years. Somehow, me, I think the shift toward some form of Islamism is a kind of desperation; of whole communities which cannot find a modern-day system to defend their ways looking to their past to find their identities. By the way, who has systematically [backed] Islamism? In 1925, the British helped the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt; they even imposed laws in Egypt against the girls going to school. They've helped in the creation of Hamas; we have a lot of documents that ISIS was helped massively by Western [intelligence] services; then they tell us those terrible Islamists - we have to have a war against them. I think the Islamic danger is overplayed and it is used in order to disorient Western public opinion. Of course, it is bad when you see Islamic people cutting heads off their opponents; it is very dramatic to see it on television, but I didn’t hear [news] about situations where their warplanes were bombing buildings full of people in Gaza, and there we just liked looking at a good spectacle. Are we a civilization, while others are not? What is this?
Yes, there is a lot of hypocrisy in this world, obviously.
When France, which is no longer France, organized the intervention in Libya, they destroyed a whole country! Now what are they speaking about? They created Libya as a terrorist base and they are using it.
Do you feel that the world is approaching a possible World War Three or not?
I think there is a danger; first of all, I think that we are in World War Three but we don’t understand it. Some regions of the world are experiencing it, for example, the Middle East or Donetsk – they are at war. Greece is in a financial war and it is obvious. The danger is that we have a Western leadership which has been educated by the foe of the Soviet Union, that Russia is too weak – they can’t do anything. They’ve misinterpreted what happened in the Soviet Union; of course it was a collapse but it was not only a collapse, it was also a suicide. It was not only a suicide, it was a decision of the leaders to change sides. This is completely different from a situation where you just say I can’t do anything. It was not an economic problem which precipitated the collapse. I’m not saying that there were not huge problems in the USSR, but all counties experience them; Cuba, for example, it still survived because it wanted to. The Soviet Union didn’t want to survive, but the West has misinterpreted this as a kind of weakness and the result is that they can make bad judgments about the results of their actions. Also, at least after the Cuban missile crisis there were more or less rules to the game; they were not always respected but they were at least respected by America and the Soviet Union. Now there are no rules to the game. Ukraine is neither in the Russian sphere of influence nor in the Western sphere of influence. It is a green zone where you can do things that normally are not permitted by nuclear superpowers.
And the Greek people and elites: on which side of this ‘World War Three’ might they be? Because on one hand, you are part of NATO, you’re part of the European Union and all this European heritage; on the other hand, you’re part of the Orthodox world, ex-Byzantine Empire and you like many aspects of current Russian policy. So can Greece be torn between those two alternatives if there is, God forbid, a serious war? What do you will predict? Will there be some split within Greece?
There is a huge split between the population and the elites. The elites, who act in their own interest, seek to be part of the Western world in every possible way. The people are more negative [towards the West]; by the way, you know Greek elites are so obedient that they cannot even introduce some kind of affordable situation, so they compel people to resort to revolutionary solutions, which are the most painful and difficult.
And how strong is the role of Masons and other secret societies among the Greek elite?
I’m not a specialist, but they are very powerful.
Have you run into cases in your life where you knew that political decisions or some other decisions were being taken because of their influence?
It is the natural tendency of the small minorities which control wealth and power to do everything possible to dominate all spheres of human life and political societies are not an exception. They try to do it and sometimes they try to do it through these institutions. It’s normal to do this.
And Mount Athos it is a special place for all Orthodox believers. How strong is the influence of Mount Athos in modern day Greece? We have heard about this entire clash against the monastery; you know that there was a lot of pressure. What is the position of the Greek people on this?
Listen; the Greek people are also little bit confused because there were also corruption and scandal accusations related to that, but I think the Greek people support all politicians or public figures who want good relations with Russia. That is a physical phenomenon; you know maybe 95 percent of Greeks are for good relations with Russia on instinct, even before think they believe that this is good for Greece. Whoever seems to support such a policy is becoming more or less popular inside Greece; the problem is that we have to…. politicians in Greece and in other countries in Europe are nowadays making policies more to be seen rather than to create real results. They are very much afraid of defying the United States on the question of Greece’s relationship with Russia.
In conclusion to our talk, if we summarize, what is your recommendation for Greece going forward. First to gain financial independence and sovereignty, then to become friendly with Russia, and be against the dominance of those elites?
Greece has to take a stand; to defend its rights against the troika of creditors, and it has to struggle. I would prefer for my country not to wage such a war, but if you are not prepared for war it can be worse. You know that Churchill said in 1938, when criticizing the Munich agreement, that they were faced with a dilemma: either capitulation or war, and he said, “they have chosen capitulation, they will have war”. So it is a little bit similar. We are in a terrible situation. For a solution, financial and political war is the last resort, but this program of destruction must be stopped at any cost. However, if you do this, you have to do it; you have to be prepared; you have to say to your people what are you doing; you have to create serious alliances, and this is not only a problem for the Greeks; it’s a problem all over the world. If Greece is forced to capitulate or if it is destroyed, the results will be terrible for all Europe and for Russia as well. Because Greece plays an extremely important strategic role in the Eastern Mediterranean; it controls Russia’s access to warm seas and the accesses of Germany and France to the Middle East. We are the center. If Greece loses as nation state with relatively independent sovereignty, this will be a huge victory for the isolation of Russia and for the preparation of the war against it. Always when we have attacks against Greece in history, the attackers also decide to attack either Russia or the Islamic East. We are the last point. Hitler lost three precious months and probably the war because he was too late when he came near Moscow, because for him it was just absolutely necessarily to crush Greece and dominate the Balkans before attacking Russia. The geopolitical question hasn’t changed and the geography is not changing.
And the last question: should Greece exit the EU and euro or not?
This is not a decision which may be made beforehand; the real problem facing us is that we must stop the economic catastrophe, deny and refuse the existing agreements which are neocolonial agreements, and demand change and reconquer our national sovereignty. I don’t know if it would be good for Greece to leave the EU or Eurozone but I know it is inside the club. Before deciding to leave, it has to use all the weapons which it has, because of its capacity; because you know, the EU is a half-democratic, half totalitarian star chamber. Members have, for instance, a right to veto many decisions.
So do you think Greek will Veto the prolongation of sanctions against Russia?
Let God give them courage! For this we need to permanently and passionately organize a serious strategic dialog between Russia and Greece. After now, we have a lot of feelings from both sides, but unfortunately we don’t have a serious strategic dialog.
So I think we had a very intense discussion. So thank you very much for speaking to us today. I hope that we will continue our conversations in the future.
With pleasure!
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And what do you think about modern day Russia? Is Putin a popular leader in Greece now? What is the attitude of Greeks towards Russians?
There are historic ties between Greece and Russia, which go back centuries. The Modern Greek national project was a project of believers who’d fought against the crusaders, who had said that they wanted to bring Christ to the Middle East but, along the way, crushed Constantinople for the first time in 1204 and then fought against the Ottomans. Russia, for both spiritual and geopolitical reasons, was a source of great hope for the Greeks throughout the whole Ottoman period. Then, when they had enlightened friends and the revolution, this was the second source of inspiration for Greece, there were two sources of inspiration and they continued to be.
The military forces of the Russian Empire stood at the gates of Constantinople several times and they were ready to take and liberate it and give it back to Greece, but the British and European powers always intervened in order to save the Ottomans.
You know that in Greek history, the relationship between them was a little bit strange too. We have very good intentions but sometimes the powers in both Athens and Moscow were not ready to do what was needed to create and sustain this kind of alliance. However, there is a huge capital of sympathy, which is not just psychological; it is of course cultural, but it has a very fundamental objective basis. This is the following: Greeks are, by the nature of their national project, maybe the only country in Europe which didn’t have colonies; it was a project of the Byzantine Empire and it was also an anti-imperialist project to save Greece from Western forces, which were supposed to be our allies but sometimes were our enemies. In this way we feel that Russia is very important as the center of the counterweight to this monopoly of planetary power which would make Hitler or Stalin look like children. This is the role that Russia is supposed to play, even if it doesn’t want to.
Russia is Katehon in the modern world, consciously or unconsciously, because Russia plays this role, preventing the New World Order from coming.
It is the same thing with Syriza; they are playing a role in the imagination of all European citizens, which they hadn’t planned or prepared to do, and I believe Russia, by the force of these things and probably due to people who are conscious of the necessity, is being called upon to play an extremely important role in human civilization.
I absolutely agree with you; you know this concept that Moscow is the Third Rome. So we believe that we are Katehon, protector of the faith, and we hope that this spiritual revival of Russia in the last 25-30 years will also happen in other parts of the former Byzantine Empire. In the last thirty years we have built 30 thousand new churches, 700 new monasteries, and this is unprecedented after the period of iconoclasm; this revival in Russia is a good example of hope also. I've heard there are some proposals in Greece and in Russia that Constantinople, or Istanbul, will be Christian again. What is the feeling of the Greek people; do they still feel pain for their former capital?
First of all, the Greeks suffered a huge defeat in 1922: half of the Greek nation was somehow destroyed, killed or forced to emigrate to what is modern Greece. I think this was the end of any serious idea of reconciling those lands. By the way, there is a different enemy now, which is much more threatening than what Turkey could ever do to us: the dominating forces of international finance and the German leaders.
I've asked my Serbian friends what the reasons were that their country was dominated by Turkey for 150 years. Did you know that during Kosovo battle, the choice was given to the Serbian king: either you choose the kingdom of heaven and in this case, you will all die and your country will be destroyed - there will be a dependent state for many centuries but you will have many saints and you will be great in the eyes of God; or choose this materialistic world - people will be alive but you will not be so good for the Lord, you will not have this treasury in heaven; the Serbs preferred to die and to be in heaven. Those Serbian friends told me that despite the fact that 'turkocracy' was bad, the good aspect of it was that they were religiously tolerant, so they didn’t persecute the church and they protected Serbia from the bad influences of the West: from revolution and liberalism. We know that until now, Serbs are maybe the main allies of Russia and they are very patriotic and like Russia. This is like a miracle, because if we take Bulgaria, they are not so strongly pro-Russian. So do you think that Turkish dominance over Greece also had some positive effects or only negative ones?
I personally cannot think of any kind of positive effects.
But why, if God rules the world? Why did it happen to the Greeks?
This is not a question you can ask me.
Why not? You are a thinker and an intellectual.
Listen – why did you have Mongol rule for 200 years? I don’t ever ask God about what happens to humans. What is more interesting is for us to try to dominate our own history, because we are living in a pre-historic and a barbarous world. You know Samuel Huntington has proposed this idea of civilizations; I would propose to unite all faiths and all people against the barbarism of financial totalitarianism. You see what happened, for instance, in the Arab world: we had classical imperialism where the imperial powers wanted to conquer countries; now we have a new form of imperialism. They are destroying the most important Arab countries: Iraq, Syria, Libya, Egypt; half of them are literally destroyed, so this is a world where we are hiding and we must stop this degeneration of humankind.
So what do you think of the future of the Islamic factor? The Halifat, as they call it, is it expanding and what is the danger of radical Islamism spreading to Europe? For example, in Greece, are there many mosques and Muslims or not?
There are not so many mosques; there are many Muslims because of immigrants who are coming. This is quite normal, because western countries destroy their countries; I am wondering why people are still living in Libya or Syria; not all of them try to come to Europe. I think there is, of course, a problem with radical Islamism and extremism, but you should remember that this is fundamentally the result of western colonial and imperialist policy in the Middle East. They have tried to concur with [the standards of] national sovereignty; they have made use of nationalistic movements, socialist movements, communist movements and the western powers have intervened in a massive way for two hundred years. Somehow, me, I think the shift toward some form of Islamism is a kind of desperation; of whole communities which cannot find a modern-day system to defend their ways looking to their past to find their identities. By the way, who has systematically [backed] Islamism? In 1925, the British helped the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt; they even imposed laws in Egypt against the girls going to school. They've helped in the creation of Hamas; we have a lot of documents that ISIS was helped massively by Western [intelligence] services; then they tell us those terrible Islamists - we have to have a war against them. I think the Islamic danger is overplayed and it is used in order to disorient Western public opinion. Of course, it is bad when you see Islamic people cutting heads off their opponents; it is very dramatic to see it on television, but I didn’t hear [news] about situations where their warplanes were bombing buildings full of people in Gaza, and there we just liked looking at a good spectacle. Are we a civilization, while others are not? What is this?
Yes, there is a lot of hypocrisy in this world, obviously.
When France, which is no longer France, organized the intervention in Libya, they destroyed a whole country! Now what are they speaking about? They created Libya as a terrorist base and they are using it.
Do you feel that the world is approaching a possible World War Three or not?
I think there is a danger; first of all, I think that we are in World War Three but we don’t understand it. Some regions of the world are experiencing it, for example, the Middle East or Donetsk – they are at war. Greece is in a financial war and it is obvious. The danger is that we have a Western leadership which has been educated by the foe of the Soviet Union, that Russia is too weak – they can’t do anything. They’ve misinterpreted what happened in the Soviet Union; of course it was a collapse but it was not only a collapse, it was also a suicide. It was not only a suicide, it was a decision of the leaders to change sides. This is completely different from a situation where you just say I can’t do anything. It was not an economic problem which precipitated the collapse. I’m not saying that there were not huge problems in the USSR, but all counties experience them; Cuba, for example, it still survived because it wanted to. The Soviet Union didn’t want to survive, but the West has misinterpreted this as a kind of weakness and the result is that they can make bad judgments about the results of their actions. Also, at least after the Cuban missile crisis there were more or less rules to the game; they were not always respected but they were at least respected by America and the Soviet Union. Now there are no rules to the game. Ukraine is neither in the Russian sphere of influence nor in the Western sphere of influence. It is a green zone where you can do things that normally are not permitted by nuclear superpowers.
And the Greek people and elites: on which side of this ‘World War Three’ might they be? Because on one hand, you are part of NATO, you’re part of the European Union and all this European heritage; on the other hand, you’re part of the Orthodox world, ex-Byzantine Empire and you like many aspects of current Russian policy. So can Greece be torn between those two alternatives if there is, God forbid, a serious war? What do you will predict? Will there be some split within Greece?
There is a huge split between the population and the elites. The elites, who act in their own interest, seek to be part of the Western world in every possible way. The people are more negative [towards the West]; by the way, you know Greek elites are so obedient that they cannot even introduce some kind of affordable situation, so they compel people to resort to revolutionary solutions, which are the most painful and difficult.
And how strong is the role of Masons and other secret societies among the Greek elite?
I’m not a specialist, but they are very powerful.
Have you run into cases in your life where you knew that political decisions or some other decisions were being taken because of their influence?
It is the natural tendency of the small minorities which control wealth and power to do everything possible to dominate all spheres of human life and political societies are not an exception. They try to do it and sometimes they try to do it through these institutions. It’s normal to do this.
And Mount Athos it is a special place for all Orthodox believers. How strong is the influence of Mount Athos in modern day Greece? We have heard about this entire clash against the monastery; you know that there was a lot of pressure. What is the position of the Greek people on this?
Listen; the Greek people are also little bit confused because there were also corruption and scandal accusations related to that, but I think the Greek people support all politicians or public figures who want good relations with Russia. That is a physical phenomenon; you know maybe 95 percent of Greeks are for good relations with Russia on instinct, even before think they believe that this is good for Greece. Whoever seems to support such a policy is becoming more or less popular inside Greece; the problem is that we have to…. politicians in Greece and in other countries in Europe are nowadays making policies more to be seen rather than to create real results. They are very much afraid of defying the United States on the question of Greece’s relationship with Russia.
In conclusion to our talk, if we summarize, what is your recommendation for Greece going forward. First to gain financial independence and sovereignty, then to become friendly with Russia, and be against the dominance of those elites?
Greece has to take a stand; to defend its rights against the troika of creditors, and it has to struggle. I would prefer for my country not to wage such a war, but if you are not prepared for war it can be worse. You know that Churchill said in 1938, when criticizing the Munich agreement, that they were faced with a dilemma: either capitulation or war, and he said, “they have chosen capitulation, they will have war”. So it is a little bit similar. We are in a terrible situation. For a solution, financial and political war is the last resort, but this program of destruction must be stopped at any cost. However, if you do this, you have to do it; you have to be prepared; you have to say to your people what are you doing; you have to create serious alliances, and this is not only a problem for the Greeks; it’s a problem all over the world. If Greece is forced to capitulate or if it is destroyed, the results will be terrible for all Europe and for Russia as well. Because Greece plays an extremely important strategic role in the Eastern Mediterranean; it controls Russia’s access to warm seas and the accesses of Germany and France to the Middle East. We are the center. If Greece loses as nation state with relatively independent sovereignty, this will be a huge victory for the isolation of Russia and for the preparation of the war against it. Always when we have attacks against Greece in history, the attackers also decide to attack either Russia or the Islamic East. We are the last point. Hitler lost three precious months and probably the war because he was too late when he came near Moscow, because for him it was just absolutely necessarily to crush Greece and dominate the Balkans before attacking Russia. The geopolitical question hasn’t changed and the geography is not changing.
And the last question: should Greece exit the EU and euro or not?
This is not a decision which may be made beforehand; the real problem facing us is that we must stop the economic catastrophe, deny and refuse the existing agreements which are neocolonial agreements, and demand change and reconquer our national sovereignty. I don’t know if it would be good for Greece to leave the EU or Eurozone but I know it is inside the club. Before deciding to leave, it has to use all the weapons which it has, because of its capacity; because you know, the EU is a half-democratic, half totalitarian star chamber. Members have, for instance, a right to veto many decisions.
So do you think Greek will Veto the prolongation of sanctions against Russia?
Let God give them courage! For this we need to permanently and passionately organize a serious strategic dialog between Russia and Greece. After now, we have a lot of feelings from both sides, but unfortunately we don’t have a serious strategic dialog.
So I think we had a very intense discussion. So thank you very much for speaking to us today. I hope that we will continue our conversations in the future.
With pleasure!
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1 February 2018 01:54
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F. William Engdahl
On 27 November Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, already at odds with the unelected bureaucrats of the European Union over his insistence on the right to decide whether Brussels or national elected governments shall be allowed to become citizens in Europe’s ongoing refugee crisis, waved another red flag, this potentially a future game-changer for the EU as it exists today. Orbanhosted the 6th annual meeting of the China- Central and Eastern European Countries (CEEC) “16+1” summit in Budapest with China’s Prime Minister Li Keqiang. The event got barely a mention in western mainstream media despite the fact that it may have set the seeds for a divide within the EU within the coming months between a French-German-dominated federal EU run by Brussels and a more free, nation-based EU on the model of Hungary, Austria, Poland, the Czech republic and other east members of the EU . .
In his opening keynote speech, Hungary’s Viktor Orban noted that Europe’s most competitive investment environment has come into being in Central and Eastern Europe. Noting that not too long ago Asia depended on the west for investment in modernization, that today, “the star of the East is now in the ascendant”, and we live in an era marked by the rise of Asia – and within it China. “We are at the beginning of a period in which the further development of Europe will be dependent on the technological and financial involvement of the East.”
Orban stressed the summit was not against the EU. He stressed that the “16+1” format not only serves the best interests of China and the sixteen Central and Eastern European countries, but also the whole of Europe and the European Union. He then announced Hungary would begin public procurement tender for upgrading the Budapest–Belgrade railway line – including funding from China.The cost of the project is 2.4billion Euros, with 85% to be provided by Export-Import Bank of China. The project is the first European project involving an EU member, Hungary, a non-EU member Serbia and China. It will create a major modern freight route to Western Europe through Central Europe. Strangely enough this is not being greeted with joy in Brussels, rather the opposite.
The China-CEEC or 16+1 annual summit was launched in 2012 before formal inauguration of the Belt, Road Initiative by China in late 2013. Until this year it had little to present in terms of results. It served as a vehicle for China and the countries of Central and East Europe, the newest EU member states as well as applicant non-members to exchange information but little concrete. The BRI developments over the past year are beginning to radically change that.
In his speech to the summit Prime Minister Li Keqiang proposed more rail lines be launched by China Railway Express and more direct flights between China and Europe. He declared that China would like to set up a logistic center in the CEE region, likely in Hungary, a main China investment focus to date. He also announced the establishment of China-CEEC Inter-Bank Association and the second phase of China-CEEC Investment Cooperation Fund. The China Development Bank will provide funds equivalent to 2 billion euros ($2.4 billion) through development-oriented loans to the China-CEEC Inter-Bank Association, which was officially established at the summit, Li said. And he announced that the second phase of the China-Central and Eastern Europe Investment Cooperation Fund, totaling $1 billion, will be mainly spent in the 16 European countries. Li noted the strong growth of agriculture imports from the region to China, rising by 14% this year. Then he called for a feasibility study on extending to Austria a railway line linking the Greek port of Piraeus withBudapest.
Since 2012 China investment in the 16 countries rose by 300% from $3 billion to over 9 billion US dollars.
One-on-one economic diplomacy
The focus on the countries of Eastern and Central Europe by Beijing is a result of the ice-cold response to date of the EU in Brussels and especially by the German and French governments. For them China’s Belt, Road Initiative, sometimes called the New Silk Road, is a threat to their domination of the EU. The recent railroad by the decision of the German Agriculture Minister, to grant a new 5-year approval for the toxic glyphosate against the wishes of the majority of EU states is but an example of the heavy-handed Brussels methods, becoming more rigid as the resistance against heavy-handed Brussels refugee policies and countless other issues grows.
The 16 countries in the China-CEC group after the latest meeting all have formally signed on to participate in the China BRI on a one-be-one basis. The countries include Poland, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Romania, Serbia, Slovakia and Slovenia, Albania and Bulgaria.
Greece, not formally a member of the 16+1 is already a major infrastructure focus of Chinese state investment in the EU. While Brussels and especially Germany offer Greece only more savage austerity demands since the Greek crisis in 2010, China offers investment. China has invested more than $500 million in the privatized Greek Port of Piraeus using the state shipping group, COSCO, turning it into the busiest Mediterranean port today. China has been operator of the Piraeus Port since 2008 and this April bought 67% ownership for $8 billion to the Greek government including the $500 million for modernization. The China Piraeus Port will serve as the gateway for Chinese seaborne freight into the EU, China’s largest trade partner. Now with the agreement by Hungary to complete the Belgrade-Budapest rail linkthe trade flows could become major for both China and EU countries of the CEE.
Greece took part in the founding meeting in May, 2017 of the Belt, Road Initiative and signed major economic agreements with Beijing.
EU Begins Counter-offensive
Rather that greet the Chinese investment in the ailing economies of Eastern and Central Europe, the Brussels EU Commission, dominated by Germany, is preparing to pass strict new investment rules. In September EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, one who owes his job to Germany’s Angela Merkel, announced a proposal for a new EU rule to centrally control foreign investments into EU member states, another attempt to rob what little remains of member national sovereignty over their national economic development. The Juncker proposal, titled “Investment Screening”, if passed by member states, would require special scrutiny and approval from Brussels when a foreign state-owned enterprise wants to invest in EU ports, energy infrastructure or defense industries. Germany, France and Italy immediately praised the Juncker proposal. Here we see the fault lines that will only become more obvious as EU economic strains grow in coming months.
Austria could play a determining role in such a shift. In October the conservative Austrian People’s Party (ÖVP) won a victory making Sebastian Kurz prospective Chancellor in a coalition with the euro-skeptic anti-refugee Freedom Party (FPÖ). Hungary’s Orban has welcomed Kurzas a “close ally.” For the Austrian economy, to orient towards the neighboring countries of Eastern Europe, especially Hungary now that the two are closer on resisting forced refugee policies and other heavy-handed moves of Brussels, could initiate a major tectonic shift in the political weight inside the EU.
For Austria the cooperation with China’s Belt, Road Initiative makes huge sense. For Austria, engagement with China and the BRI is clear given the country’s strong economic relations with Eastern Europe and the Western Balkans. The countries of CEEC have major infrastructure deficits and Austrian industry could play a constructive partner role to the Chinese investment, what the Chinese like to call win-win. Clearly the present direction of the German-French-domination of the EU cannot continue as it has. The fault lines are too great.
The Danish Saxo Bank head of macro-analysis, Christopher Dembikin a recent assessment of these growing fault lines predicts “The divide between old core EU members and the more sceptical and newer members of the bloc will widen to an impassable chasm in 2018 and will shift the center of gravity from the Franco-German axis to Visegrad-and-friends (Hungary, Czech Republic, Poland and Slovakia-w.e.).”
Dembik suggests that the French Macron “EU reform” plans to integrate further and create a joint treasury and a common defense budget, more top-down rule, will push the countries of the CEEC, and likely Austria and also Italy to create a new blocking minority coalition of 13 EU countries to form a blocking minority at the European Council within the EU states that will push the EU to abandon the disruptive German refugee policies and austerity in favor of economic stimulus. That indeed would be a refreshing change for millions of Europeans. An outrageous prediction? Perhaps not so unlikely at present.
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On 27 November Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, already at odds with the unelected bureaucrats of the European Union over his insistence on the right to decide whether Brussels or national elected governments shall be allowed to become citizens in Europe’s ongoing refugee crisis, waved another red flag, this potentially a future game-changer for the EU as it exists today. Orbanhosted the 6th annual meeting of the China- Central and Eastern European Countries (CEEC) “16+1” summit in Budapest with China’s Prime Minister Li Keqiang. The event got barely a mention in western mainstream media despite the fact that it may have set the seeds for a divide within the EU within the coming months between a French-German-dominated federal EU run by Brussels and a more free, nation-based EU on the model of Hungary, Austria, Poland, the Czech republic and other east members of the EU . .
In his opening keynote speech, Hungary’s Viktor Orban noted that Europe’s most competitive investment environment has come into being in Central and Eastern Europe. Noting that not too long ago Asia depended on the west for investment in modernization, that today, “the star of the East is now in the ascendant”, and we live in an era marked by the rise of Asia – and within it China. “We are at the beginning of a period in which the further development of Europe will be dependent on the technological and financial involvement of the East.”
Orban stressed the summit was not against the EU. He stressed that the “16+1” format not only serves the best interests of China and the sixteen Central and Eastern European countries, but also the whole of Europe and the European Union. He then announced Hungary would begin public procurement tender for upgrading the Budapest–Belgrade railway line – including funding from China.The cost of the project is 2.4billion Euros, with 85% to be provided by Export-Import Bank of China. The project is the first European project involving an EU member, Hungary, a non-EU member Serbia and China. It will create a major modern freight route to Western Europe through Central Europe. Strangely enough this is not being greeted with joy in Brussels, rather the opposite.
The China-CEEC or 16+1 annual summit was launched in 2012 before formal inauguration of the Belt, Road Initiative by China in late 2013. Until this year it had little to present in terms of results. It served as a vehicle for China and the countries of Central and East Europe, the newest EU member states as well as applicant non-members to exchange information but little concrete. The BRI developments over the past year are beginning to radically change that.
In his speech to the summit Prime Minister Li Keqiang proposed more rail lines be launched by China Railway Express and more direct flights between China and Europe. He declared that China would like to set up a logistic center in the CEE region, likely in Hungary, a main China investment focus to date. He also announced the establishment of China-CEEC Inter-Bank Association and the second phase of China-CEEC Investment Cooperation Fund. The China Development Bank will provide funds equivalent to 2 billion euros ($2.4 billion) through development-oriented loans to the China-CEEC Inter-Bank Association, which was officially established at the summit, Li said. And he announced that the second phase of the China-Central and Eastern Europe Investment Cooperation Fund, totaling $1 billion, will be mainly spent in the 16 European countries. Li noted the strong growth of agriculture imports from the region to China, rising by 14% this year. Then he called for a feasibility study on extending to Austria a railway line linking the Greek port of Piraeus withBudapest.
Since 2012 China investment in the 16 countries rose by 300% from $3 billion to over 9 billion US dollars.
One-on-one economic diplomacy
The focus on the countries of Eastern and Central Europe by Beijing is a result of the ice-cold response to date of the EU in Brussels and especially by the German and French governments. For them China’s Belt, Road Initiative, sometimes called the New Silk Road, is a threat to their domination of the EU. The recent railroad by the decision of the German Agriculture Minister, to grant a new 5-year approval for the toxic glyphosate against the wishes of the majority of EU states is but an example of the heavy-handed Brussels methods, becoming more rigid as the resistance against heavy-handed Brussels refugee policies and countless other issues grows.
The 16 countries in the China-CEC group after the latest meeting all have formally signed on to participate in the China BRI on a one-be-one basis. The countries include Poland, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Romania, Serbia, Slovakia and Slovenia, Albania and Bulgaria.
Greece, not formally a member of the 16+1 is already a major infrastructure focus of Chinese state investment in the EU. While Brussels and especially Germany offer Greece only more savage austerity demands since the Greek crisis in 2010, China offers investment. China has invested more than $500 million in the privatized Greek Port of Piraeus using the state shipping group, COSCO, turning it into the busiest Mediterranean port today. China has been operator of the Piraeus Port since 2008 and this April bought 67% ownership for $8 billion to the Greek government including the $500 million for modernization. The China Piraeus Port will serve as the gateway for Chinese seaborne freight into the EU, China’s largest trade partner. Now with the agreement by Hungary to complete the Belgrade-Budapest rail linkthe trade flows could become major for both China and EU countries of the CEE.
Greece took part in the founding meeting in May, 2017 of the Belt, Road Initiative and signed major economic agreements with Beijing.
EU Begins Counter-offensive
Rather that greet the Chinese investment in the ailing economies of Eastern and Central Europe, the Brussels EU Commission, dominated by Germany, is preparing to pass strict new investment rules. In September EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, one who owes his job to Germany’s Angela Merkel, announced a proposal for a new EU rule to centrally control foreign investments into EU member states, another attempt to rob what little remains of member national sovereignty over their national economic development. The Juncker proposal, titled “Investment Screening”, if passed by member states, would require special scrutiny and approval from Brussels when a foreign state-owned enterprise wants to invest in EU ports, energy infrastructure or defense industries. Germany, France and Italy immediately praised the Juncker proposal. Here we see the fault lines that will only become more obvious as EU economic strains grow in coming months.
Austria could play a determining role in such a shift. In October the conservative Austrian People’s Party (ÖVP) won a victory making Sebastian Kurz prospective Chancellor in a coalition with the euro-skeptic anti-refugee Freedom Party (FPÖ). Hungary’s Orban has welcomed Kurzas a “close ally.” For the Austrian economy, to orient towards the neighboring countries of Eastern Europe, especially Hungary now that the two are closer on resisting forced refugee policies and other heavy-handed moves of Brussels, could initiate a major tectonic shift in the political weight inside the EU.
For Austria the cooperation with China’s Belt, Road Initiative makes huge sense. For Austria, engagement with China and the BRI is clear given the country’s strong economic relations with Eastern Europe and the Western Balkans. The countries of CEEC have major infrastructure deficits and Austrian industry could play a constructive partner role to the Chinese investment, what the Chinese like to call win-win. Clearly the present direction of the German-French-domination of the EU cannot continue as it has. The fault lines are too great.
The Danish Saxo Bank head of macro-analysis, Christopher Dembikin a recent assessment of these growing fault lines predicts “The divide between old core EU members and the more sceptical and newer members of the bloc will widen to an impassable chasm in 2018 and will shift the center of gravity from the Franco-German axis to Visegrad-and-friends (Hungary, Czech Republic, Poland and Slovakia-w.e.).”
Dembik suggests that the French Macron “EU reform” plans to integrate further and create a joint treasury and a common defense budget, more top-down rule, will push the countries of the CEEC, and likely Austria and also Italy to create a new blocking minority coalition of 13 EU countries to form a blocking minority at the European Council within the EU states that will push the EU to abandon the disruptive German refugee policies and austerity in favor of economic stimulus. That indeed would be a refreshing change for millions of Europeans. An outrageous prediction? Perhaps not so unlikely at present.
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1 February 2018 01:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
From Russian Thinktank::
First 3 reasons:
1) To undercut Russian diplomacy by presenting the top echelons of Russia as gangsters.
2) To present Russia as a military threat as per the ridiculous announcement by British defense minister Gavin Williamson
3) To shift American and European attention away from the coming release of the House Intelligence Committee’s report that proves Russiagate is a conspiracy between the FBI, the Obama Department of Justice and the Democratic National Committee against President Trump.
// You mean, the Russian (psychology+few other forces) elected president
// and that's fine by me in some way, as we do admire far out plans
First 3 reasons:
1) To undercut Russian diplomacy by presenting the top echelons of Russia as gangsters.
2) To present Russia as a military threat as per the ridiculous announcement by British defense minister Gavin Williamson
3) To shift American and European attention away from the coming release of the House Intelligence Committee’s report that proves Russiagate is a conspiracy between the FBI, the Obama Department of Justice and the Democratic National Committee against President Trump.
// You mean, the Russian (psychology+few other forces) elected president
// and that's fine by me in some way, as we do admire far out plans
1 February 2018 01:53
Margus Meigo commented on Kärt Mere's post.
Millest sellised asjad tekivad füüsiliste ja L. Vilmaa õpetuste kohaselt?
1 February 2018 00:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Perhaps Uploaded soon in here & there
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31 January 2018 15:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Kogu ERR arhiiv on ÜKS saade ainult Toomast?
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Fantastiliselt veider ikkagi
https://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/koik-puhuvad-koik-puhuvad-peeter-tooma-viimne-reliikvia-laulud/similar-62028
Fantastiliselt veider ikkagi
https://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/koik-puhuvad-koik-puhuvad-peeter-tooma-viimne-reliikvia-laulud/similar-62028
31 January 2018 14:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Korra selle reporteri nime saad anda ?
31 January 2018 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on Ylle Ylle Kingpool's photo.
Hmm, omapärane (arvestades kõike muud, võtab mõtlema...)
31 January 2018 14:28
Margus Meigo commented on Ylle Ylle Kingpool's post.
Ainuke asi mis oli ebaviisakas, ja paha mis juhtus.... et Uksepeal perenaine hakkas rääkima ja siis kasvatamtusena suts, noor tormas mikrofoniga sisse... ja siis Jäigi sünnipäevalapsel perenaisel ütlemata lause mida alustas... sedasi pole viiskas, muidu aga väga armas oli
31 January 2018 14:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Irooniline valik, kuid kas Eestlastel endil, ikka on kogu see nõukogude liidu ja USA ajalugu piisavalt selge, et neid pilte kasutada?
31 January 2018 14:18
Margus Meigo commented on IRL Naiskogu IREN's photo.
" After the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the US government called upon manufacturers to produce greater amounts of war goods. The workplace atmosphere at large factories was often tense because of resentment built up between management and labor unions throughout the 1930s. Directors of companies such as General Motors (GM) sought to minimize past friction and encourage teamwork.
In response to a rumored public relations campaign by the United Auto Workers union, GM quickly produced a propaganda poster in 1942 showing both labor and management rolling up their sleeves, aligned toward maintaining a steady rate of war production.
The poster read, “Together We Can Do It!” and “Keep ‘Em Firing!” In creating such posters, corporations wished to increase production by tapping into the popular pro-war sentiment, with the ultimate goal of preventing the government from exerting greater control over production.
...
So that was it, the poster was strictly internal to Westinghouse displayed only during February 1943, and was not even intended to inspire women to join her but to exhort already-hired women to work harder. The war was over, women got back to being housewives and men got back in the factories. The poster along with other war ephemera found its place somewhere in the National Archives.
http://www.thevintagenews.com/2016/08/02/much-ado-poster-real-truth-behind-iconic-can-poster-2/
In response to a rumored public relations campaign by the United Auto Workers union, GM quickly produced a propaganda poster in 1942 showing both labor and management rolling up their sleeves, aligned toward maintaining a steady rate of war production.
The poster read, “Together We Can Do It!” and “Keep ‘Em Firing!” In creating such posters, corporations wished to increase production by tapping into the popular pro-war sentiment, with the ultimate goal of preventing the government from exerting greater control over production.
...
So that was it, the poster was strictly internal to Westinghouse displayed only during February 1943, and was not even intended to inspire women to join her but to exhort already-hired women to work harder. The war was over, women got back to being housewives and men got back in the factories. The poster along with other war ephemera found its place somewhere in the National Archives.
http://www.thevintagenews.com/2016/08/02/much-ado-poster-real-truth-behind-iconic-can-poster-2/
http://www.thevintagenews.com/2016/08/02/much-ado-poster-real-truth-behind-iconic-can-poster-2/
31 January 2018 14:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Psss!
We do it openly, so no one sees! And when everyone does, then no one in right mind would oppose, unless pay'd for that
https://womantatiana.deviantart.com/art/soviet-propaganda-posters-364116930
--
“Keep your mouth shut!”
Nina Vatolina, 1941
http://allthatsinteresting.com/soviet-propaganda-posters-ww2#5 (+ others)
+
A lot of sensational..
Kas tänapäevased või päriselt vanad, "läänemeelsed" või läänemeelsete poolt tehtud N. Liidu meelte ergutamiseks... kuidagi ... kindla disainiga naised piltidel, ju ikka tänapäevased eks ?
http://www.topdesignmag.com/sensational-russian-illustrated-posters/
We do it openly, so no one sees! And when everyone does, then no one in right mind would oppose, unless pay'd for that
https://womantatiana.deviantart.com/art/soviet-propaganda-posters-364116930
--
“Keep your mouth shut!”
Nina Vatolina, 1941
http://allthatsinteresting.com/soviet-propaganda-posters-ww2#5 (+ others)
+
A lot of sensational..
Kas tänapäevased või päriselt vanad, "läänemeelsed" või läänemeelsete poolt tehtud N. Liidu meelte ergutamiseks... kuidagi ... kindla disainiga naised piltidel, ju ikka tänapäevased eks ?
http://www.topdesignmag.com/sensational-russian-illustrated-posters/
31 January 2018 14:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://stylesentry.wordpress.com/2013/10/30/woman-power-in-russia/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Can_Do_It!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Howard_Miller
" After the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the US government called upon manufacturers to produce greater amounts of war goods. The workplace atmosphere at large factories was often tense because of resentment built up between management and labor unions throughout the 1930s. Directors of companies such as General Motors (GM) sought to minimize past friction and encourage teamwork.
In response to a rumored public relations campaign by the United Auto Workers union, GM quickly produced a propaganda poster in 1942 showing both labor and management rolling up their sleeves, aligned toward maintaining a steady rate of war production.
The poster read, “Together We Can Do It!” and “Keep ‘Em Firing!” In creating such posters, corporations wished to increase production by tapping into the popular pro-war sentiment, with the ultimate goal of preventing the government from exerting greater control over production.
...
So that was it, the poster was strictly internal to Westinghouse displayed only during February 1943, and was not even intended to inspire women to join her but to exhort already-hired women to work harder. The war was over, women got back to being housewives and men got back in the factories. The poster along with other war ephemera found its place somewhere in the National Archives.
http://www.thevintagenews.com/2016/08/02/much-ado-poster-real-truth-behind-iconic-can-poster-2/
+ muuseas
"The poster served and still serves as an advocate for women’s rights in the workforce. In 1984, former war worker Geraldine Hoff Doyle came across an article in Modern Maturity magazine which showed a wartime photograph of a young woman working at a lathe, and she assumed that the photograph was taken of her in mid-to-late 1942 when she was working briefly in a factory. Ten years later, Doyle saw the “We Can Do It!” poster on the front of the Smithsonian magazine and assumed the poster was an image of herself. Without intending to profit from the connection, Doyle decided that the 1942 wartime photograph had inspired Miller to create the poster, making Doyle herself the model for the poster."
Kuid jah, eks suures plaanis see suht sama mentaliteet mõlemal pool piiri, ja eks Workers Rights... Orja Right, Orjamise Õigused jms, ole ka sarnased algupäraselt... ja on teada, et omavahel konkurentsi, tööedukust tõsta, on vaja lua eri pooli, omavahel väikseölt ja suures plaanis, eriti ajutiste lainetega, suurte gruppide vahel,
ja partamatult, sarnased asjad toimivad siis nad ka srnaseid asj ukasutavad... ja kuni on eri poole,d saab testida ka eriasju inimeste peal aegajalt .. eks miskit innovatsioni kuidas inimesi meelsusega tegema midagi muud ku isee mida tegelikult inimesd oma ühiskonna jaoks teeksid...
... ja tõsi ta on, suuri asju ka nii saab tehtud... eriti suuri paneel maju ja raudmasinaid... ja eks neeed ole ka jah... suure kasutusega, imelised mitmet moodi... kuid kas pärast ka hoolitsetakse, et need naised oma tütardele uuesti maist naisleikust, õrnust ja ilus, maa lähedust suudaksid õpetada?
Õnneks sõjatõõstuse ja riigi aparaatide psüholoogid, eugeenikud, kommunstiktki sellest arusaavad, et neid väärtusi vaja naises, et siis nende asjade kaudu inspireerida mehi... et siis sellel üõhjusel osadel naistel ikka lastaks,e naturalismi ligi ka areneda... kuigi.. eesmärgiga, ... mitte eriti õilsamaga kui Sillamäe naistel
--
https://books.google.ee/books?id=gaRRtWEH2pgC&pg=PA80&lpg=PA80&dq=War+Production+Co-Ordinating+Committee&source=bl&ots=bmwhmwhIjC&sig=bYOwShDPkInL67eqalesf4kO3WY&hl=et&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj63uq6loLZAhVMZ1AKHQZoDFwQ6AEIZjAI#v=onepage&q=War%20Production%20Co-Ordinating%20Committee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Can_Do_It!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Howard_Miller
" After the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the US government called upon manufacturers to produce greater amounts of war goods. The workplace atmosphere at large factories was often tense because of resentment built up between management and labor unions throughout the 1930s. Directors of companies such as General Motors (GM) sought to minimize past friction and encourage teamwork.
In response to a rumored public relations campaign by the United Auto Workers union, GM quickly produced a propaganda poster in 1942 showing both labor and management rolling up their sleeves, aligned toward maintaining a steady rate of war production.
The poster read, “Together We Can Do It!” and “Keep ‘Em Firing!” In creating such posters, corporations wished to increase production by tapping into the popular pro-war sentiment, with the ultimate goal of preventing the government from exerting greater control over production.
...
So that was it, the poster was strictly internal to Westinghouse displayed only during February 1943, and was not even intended to inspire women to join her but to exhort already-hired women to work harder. The war was over, women got back to being housewives and men got back in the factories. The poster along with other war ephemera found its place somewhere in the National Archives.
http://www.thevintagenews.com/2016/08/02/much-ado-poster-real-truth-behind-iconic-can-poster-2/
+ muuseas
"The poster served and still serves as an advocate for women’s rights in the workforce. In 1984, former war worker Geraldine Hoff Doyle came across an article in Modern Maturity magazine which showed a wartime photograph of a young woman working at a lathe, and she assumed that the photograph was taken of her in mid-to-late 1942 when she was working briefly in a factory. Ten years later, Doyle saw the “We Can Do It!” poster on the front of the Smithsonian magazine and assumed the poster was an image of herself. Without intending to profit from the connection, Doyle decided that the 1942 wartime photograph had inspired Miller to create the poster, making Doyle herself the model for the poster."
Kuid jah, eks suures plaanis see suht sama mentaliteet mõlemal pool piiri, ja eks Workers Rights... Orja Right, Orjamise Õigused jms, ole ka sarnased algupäraselt... ja on teada, et omavahel konkurentsi, tööedukust tõsta, on vaja lua eri pooli, omavahel väikseölt ja suures plaanis, eriti ajutiste lainetega, suurte gruppide vahel,
ja partamatult, sarnased asjad toimivad siis nad ka srnaseid asj ukasutavad... ja kuni on eri poole,d saab testida ka eriasju inimeste peal aegajalt .. eks miskit innovatsioni kuidas inimesi meelsusega tegema midagi muud ku isee mida tegelikult inimesd oma ühiskonna jaoks teeksid...
... ja tõsi ta on, suuri asju ka nii saab tehtud... eriti suuri paneel maju ja raudmasinaid... ja eks neeed ole ka jah... suure kasutusega, imelised mitmet moodi... kuid kas pärast ka hoolitsetakse, et need naised oma tütardele uuesti maist naisleikust, õrnust ja ilus, maa lähedust suudaksid õpetada?
Õnneks sõjatõõstuse ja riigi aparaatide psüholoogid, eugeenikud, kommunstiktki sellest arusaavad, et neid väärtusi vaja naises, et siis nende asjade kaudu inspireerida mehi... et siis sellel üõhjusel osadel naistel ikka lastaks,e naturalismi ligi ka areneda... kuigi.. eesmärgiga, ... mitte eriti õilsamaga kui Sillamäe naistel
--
https://books.google.ee/books?id=gaRRtWEH2pgC&pg=PA80&lpg=PA80&dq=War+Production+Co-Ordinating+Committee&source=bl&ots=bmwhmwhIjC&sig=bYOwShDPkInL67eqalesf4kO3WY&hl=et&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj63uq6loLZAhVMZ1AKHQZoDFwQ6AEIZjAI#v=onepage&q=War%20Production%20Co-Ordinating%20Committee
31 January 2018 14:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja see ei olnud Iroonia, vist
https://www.facebook.com/IRLNaiskoguIREN/photos/a.397709320339335.1073741835.357528791024055/1360333170743607/?type=3&theater
IREN: IRL-i naiskogu nimetas Aasta Ireniks sotsiaalkaitseministri Kaia Iva.
„Kaia oli kevadisel erakonna esimehe valimisel väga lähedal esimeheks saamisele ning näitas, et ka konservatiivses erakonnas võib toetus naisjuhile olla arvestatav,“ ütles naiskogu esimees Ulla Preeden. „Ta on suutnud ühendada tugevad juhiomadused ja ratsionaalse mõtlemise empaatiavõimega ning seisnud kindlameelselt oma valdkonna eest nii sotsiaalkaitseministrina kui ka kohaliku omavalitsuste valimisi toetades,“ lisas ta.
Kaia Iva sõnul on IRL-i naiste osakaal valmistel kandideerimisel ja valimistel osalemisel aasta-aastalt tõusnud. „Naised oskavad väärtustada meeskonnatööd ja rollide jagamist meeskonnas, nende aktiivsel osalusel saavad nimekirjad tihtipeale parema tulemuse,“ ütles Iva. „Seda kinnitab minu koduvallas Türil läbi aastate saavutatud hea tulemus, mille juht on ka praegu silmapaistev naisvallavanem IRL-i ridadest“.
Kaia Iva on IRL-i liige alates 1999.aastast, ta on olnud Türi linnapea, kuulunud Riigikogu XI ja XII koosseisus ning olnud fraktsiooni esimees. Kaia on hariduselt matemaatikaõpetaja, ta on abielus, peres on kolm last.
"Aasta Iren´i" kandidaatideks esitati veel Viljandi abilinapea Janika Gedvil (Kivistik) ja erakonnaga sel aastal liitunud ooperilaulja ning omanimelise muusikute fondi looja Pille Lill.
IRLi naiskogu valis "Aasta Iren´it" kolmandat korda, aunimetuse on varasemalt pälvinud Annely Akkerman ja Riina Solman. Statuudi kohaselt võib valituks osutuda naiskogu liige, kes on oma tegevusega olnud eeskujuks, tõstnud naiste soovi osaleda poliitikas ja toonud IRENile tuntust
https://www.facebook.com/IRLNaiskoguIREN/photos/a.397709320339335.1073741835.357528791024055/1360333170743607/?type=3&theater
IREN: IRL-i naiskogu nimetas Aasta Ireniks sotsiaalkaitseministri Kaia Iva.
„Kaia oli kevadisel erakonna esimehe valimisel väga lähedal esimeheks saamisele ning näitas, et ka konservatiivses erakonnas võib toetus naisjuhile olla arvestatav,“ ütles naiskogu esimees Ulla Preeden. „Ta on suutnud ühendada tugevad juhiomadused ja ratsionaalse mõtlemise empaatiavõimega ning seisnud kindlameelselt oma valdkonna eest nii sotsiaalkaitseministrina kui ka kohaliku omavalitsuste valimisi toetades,“ lisas ta.
Kaia Iva sõnul on IRL-i naiste osakaal valmistel kandideerimisel ja valimistel osalemisel aasta-aastalt tõusnud. „Naised oskavad väärtustada meeskonnatööd ja rollide jagamist meeskonnas, nende aktiivsel osalusel saavad nimekirjad tihtipeale parema tulemuse,“ ütles Iva. „Seda kinnitab minu koduvallas Türil läbi aastate saavutatud hea tulemus, mille juht on ka praegu silmapaistev naisvallavanem IRL-i ridadest“.
Kaia Iva on IRL-i liige alates 1999.aastast, ta on olnud Türi linnapea, kuulunud Riigikogu XI ja XII koosseisus ning olnud fraktsiooni esimees. Kaia on hariduselt matemaatikaõpetaja, ta on abielus, peres on kolm last.
"Aasta Iren´i" kandidaatideks esitati veel Viljandi abilinapea Janika Gedvil (Kivistik) ja erakonnaga sel aastal liitunud ooperilaulja ning omanimelise muusikute fondi looja Pille Lill.
IRLi naiskogu valis "Aasta Iren´it" kolmandat korda, aunimetuse on varasemalt pälvinud Annely Akkerman ja Riina Solman. Statuudi kohaselt võib valituks osutuda naiskogu liige, kes on oma tegevusega olnud eeskujuks, tõstnud naiste soovi osaleda poliitikas ja toonud IRENile tuntust
31 January 2018 14:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi samas minu sotsaalmajutuse leping, sellel oli kirjas, et to 75 aastaks peab salajaseks jääma, kõvem teema kui need mis 20 aastaks jääma pidid :p
31 January 2018 13:59
Margus Meigo commented on Eliahi Priest's post.
So when in this level things are leaked or released, then what really people should ask: What they want Really to hide / to plan
always keep full respect, to stay aware, as even if there is in rare times accidents (besides, designer accidents by opponents), then they will not cry about it a lot, but will think with in hours how they can make profit off it and for what else good they can use it.
One old good Jewish saying "newer fail to make good use of terrible situation" - okey perhaps i slightly changed it, to get meaning faster and cleaner.
always keep full respect, to stay aware, as even if there is in rare times accidents (besides, designer accidents by opponents), then they will not cry about it a lot, but will think with in hours how they can make profit off it and for what else good they can use it.
One old good Jewish saying "newer fail to make good use of terrible situation" - okey perhaps i slightly changed it, to get meaning faster and cleaner.
31 January 2018 13:54
Margus Meigo replied to Cheryl Lynne's comment.
but i just like and admire the website design, it's in today's terms beautiful!.
One other, great work i admired, was the CNNMoney's
money.cnn.com/video/technology/2015/01/25/sex-drugs-silicon-valley-psychedelics.cnnmoney/index.html /
money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/index.html
as if the ones, who understand, depths of what they leaked in this videos and what it REALLY means, ...
and also, that CNN made special page for that.. now it looks ordinary.. but if you remember back in the days..
One other, great work i admired, was the CNNMoney's
money.cnn.com/video/technology/2015/01/25/sex-drugs-silicon-valley-psychedelics.cnnmoney/index.html /
money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/index.html
as if the ones, who understand, depths of what they leaked in this videos and what it REALLY means, ...
and also, that CNN made special page for that.. now it looks ordinary.. but if you remember back in the days..
http://money.cnn.com/video/technology/2015/01/25/sex-drugs-silicon-valley-psychedelics.cnnmoney/index.html
31 January 2018 13:46
Margus Meigo replied to Cheryl Lynne's comment.
Eliahi Priest if You are extremely smart and allowed a special ticket, to heaven, then what common people, sheeple as them some call people, think about them in common people news, or in comments, matters a bit little compared to greater good and great projects them see what can come from it.
Also they can blackmail then legaly other gov's telling : Hey in this cabinet was also YOUR docs... we can hold ABC back.. to not release this part... if You hold back Your's---
And usually, these kind of levels, there is not just one small benefit they do, it is multi purpose, 5-7 ideas at least, so it is also, near impossible for anyone to start trace back logical conspiracy, as normal human mind in news, will not be able to handle multi reality at same time so the news will fail, to try to cover full spectrum, as "facts" do not add up about "is it this or is it that"
this is one of the old, few thousand years old trick , to make common people think, that the ones who rule them are sloppy and not so smart... this is why the actors up there some wear a tie and suit, to make look them self as also, clueless and controlled and as: actor, in actor clothes...
as this is image they need to keep for public ... some of them need to keep act, as they humans also
many of them, in serious knowledge, spend a lot of time in flip-flops...
Also they can blackmail then legaly other gov's telling : Hey in this cabinet was also YOUR docs... we can hold ABC back.. to not release this part... if You hold back Your's---
And usually, these kind of levels, there is not just one small benefit they do, it is multi purpose, 5-7 ideas at least, so it is also, near impossible for anyone to start trace back logical conspiracy, as normal human mind in news, will not be able to handle multi reality at same time so the news will fail, to try to cover full spectrum, as "facts" do not add up about "is it this or is it that"
this is one of the old, few thousand years old trick , to make common people think, that the ones who rule them are sloppy and not so smart... this is why the actors up there some wear a tie and suit, to make look them self as also, clueless and controlled and as: actor, in actor clothes...
as this is image they need to keep for public ... some of them need to keep act, as they humans also
many of them, in serious knowledge, spend a lot of time in flip-flops...
31 January 2018 13:43
Margus Meigo replied to Cheryl Lynne's comment.
(just to say it outloud)
31 January 2018 13:35
Margus Meigo replied to Cheryl Lynne's comment.
just look what kind of webisode was prepared for this and that no one got arrested and who are the professionals who advised what files to leak and what not for security reasons.
Is like them call up to National Security guys and asked "hey we got loads of Your files here, can You come and tell us what can we publish and what not"
...these kind of people, besides designer mistakes, make proper 3-4 steps ahead, for needing for some other, greater secret coverage.
For example, to make look, that random gov leak, proves, that there is no extraterrestrial, magic or KGB related active files :D
Is like them call up to National Security guys and asked "hey we got loads of Your files here, can You come and tell us what can we publish and what not"
...these kind of people, besides designer mistakes, make proper 3-4 steps ahead, for needing for some other, greater secret coverage.
For example, to make look, that random gov leak, proves, that there is no extraterrestrial, magic or KGB related active files :D
31 January 2018 13:34
Margus Meigo replied to Cheryl Lynne's comment.
This was proper gov. opp, to leak these doc. for security and revenge, preparation reasons,
these kind of things are orchestrated, for our benefit and to get advantage.
Kind of same, as NSA leaks, are done to help humanity, to bad wikileaks directs these things sometimes to much in a way.... of some ideology that was not the original point of it all.
But we get better.
these kind of things are orchestrated, for our benefit and to get advantage.
Kind of same, as NSA leaks, are done to help humanity, to bad wikileaks directs these things sometimes to much in a way.... of some ideology that was not the original point of it all.
But we get better.
31 January 2018 13:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
----
Only thing person can hope for, that this "person" was smart enough to copy all documents before sending them
as you know.. would be careless to not do it..
as who to say that no one ever sees the all of it.. and what agents work in where... and the public leak instructions also , demand not complete shutdown so people would keep trusting sending their finds and that they would not try to risk them self and proper leak all
Only thing person can hope for, that this "person" was smart enough to copy all documents before sending them
as you know.. would be careless to not do it..
as who to say that no one ever sees the all of it.. and what agents work in where... and the public leak instructions also , demand not complete shutdown so people would keep trusting sending their finds and that they would not try to risk them self and proper leak all
31 January 2018 13:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
What's the big deal?
Cabinet documents like these are supposed to remain secret by law for at least 20 years. That's so senior ministers feel they can speak openly and frankly in the sanctity of the cabinet room.
Then why are you publishing them?
National security and the inner workings of our government affect the lives of all Australians. These documents reveal how key decisions have been made.
Crucially, they expose repeated security breaches of Australia's most sensitive and classified documents and a seemingly casual attitude of some of those charged with keeping the documents safe.
Can I see the documents?
We have published some of the documents, but not all. We've withheld documents if there are national security reasons, if the information is already public, or to protect the privacy of public servants.
How did you get them?
Journalism like this relies on brave confidential sources, and we'll protect their privacy at all costs. Suffice to say no-one broke any laws.
The documents were in two locked filing cabinets sold at an ex-government sale in Canberra. They were sold off cheaply because they were heavy and no-one could find the keys. A nifty person drilled the locks and uncovered the trove of documents inside.
Cabinet documents like these are supposed to remain secret by law for at least 20 years. That's so senior ministers feel they can speak openly and frankly in the sanctity of the cabinet room.
Then why are you publishing them?
National security and the inner workings of our government affect the lives of all Australians. These documents reveal how key decisions have been made.
Crucially, they expose repeated security breaches of Australia's most sensitive and classified documents and a seemingly casual attitude of some of those charged with keeping the documents safe.
Can I see the documents?
We have published some of the documents, but not all. We've withheld documents if there are national security reasons, if the information is already public, or to protect the privacy of public servants.
How did you get them?
Journalism like this relies on brave confidential sources, and we'll protect their privacy at all costs. Suffice to say no-one broke any laws.
The documents were in two locked filing cabinets sold at an ex-government sale in Canberra. They were sold off cheaply because they were heavy and no-one could find the keys. A nifty person drilled the locks and uncovered the trove of documents inside.
31 January 2018 13:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
31 January 2018 12:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
well, in next generation for sure, if to early in this age,
beautiful page ABC has done for this as well, good work!
beautiful page ABC has done for this as well, good work!
31 January 2018 12:38
Margus Meigo commented on Eliahi Priest's post.
Beautiful work, should get awarded
31 January 2018 12:36
Margus Meigo replied to Rait Puusaar's comment.
ja Terracotta armee jms
31 January 2018 11:47
Margus Meigo replied to Rait Puusaar's comment.
tglt rohkem teismeliste naljad
31 January 2018 11:45
Margus Meigo replied to Rait Puusaar's comment.
kui austraaliast krokotilli tõin hakkasid kah
31 January 2018 11:45
Margus Meigo replied to Rait Puusaar's comment.
tollis hakkasid urisema suts
31 January 2018 11:44
Margus Meigo replied to Rait Puusaar's comment.
just
31 January 2018 11:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
M83
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8TnbR7FY8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8TnbR7FY8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8TnbR7FY8w
31 January 2018 05:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
www.mil.ee/et/ajateenistus/naised-ajateenistuses
http://www.mil.ee/et/ajateenistus/naised-ajateenistuses
31 January 2018 05:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sometimes is alright, but for how long ?
Family values, that grow woman is lost, now only army left, to grow strength in woman, no fathers?
Family values, that grow woman is lost, now only army left, to grow strength in woman, no fathers?
31 January 2018 05:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.kra.ee/ajateenistus/naised-ja-ajateenistus/
https://www.kra.ee/ajateenistus/naised-ja-ajateenistus/
31 January 2018 05:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
www.mil.ee/et/ajateenistus/naised-ajateenistuses
huvitav, et titi avalinkidel "enabeling" linkide lahti ladumine ja videopostide otse postitamine on osadel kontodel lülitatud välja..,
kommentaari vastustes veel toimib
huvitav, et titi avalinkidel "enabeling" linkide lahti ladumine ja videopostide otse postitamine on osadel kontodel lülitatud välja..,
kommentaari vastustes veel toimib
31 January 2018 05:16
Margus Meigo replied to Lilika Ly's comment.
ebanormaalsem
31 January 2018 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to Kristel Meigo's comment.
Ise Sa veel ilus Nais olevus, miks enda hinge sedasi ebaloomulike mõtetega räsida lased neil enda sees, palvetada soovitaks kuid tean mida Sul selles osas mõelda lastakse, seega lasen kellegil ehk mingiaeg Su eest palvetada, sest loodsin, et kui aastaid ühendust ei võta, et sis ehk lõppeb Sul see vimm... aga eip olnud sellest tulu,
sellise tervitussõnumiga tagasitulla...
Nu eks seegi hea, kinnitab, et ikka sama inimesega tegu :D
(kuigi, eks see osalt kurb naer ole, teise õnnetuse üle, raske olukorra üle, ple ilus ju naerda)
sellise tervitussõnumiga tagasitulla...
Nu eks seegi hea, kinnitab, et ikka sama inimesega tegu :D
(kuigi, eks see osalt kurb naer ole, teise õnnetuse üle, raske olukorra üle, ple ilus ju naerda)
30 January 2018 22:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eestlased on nii kannatlikud, et sellist asjagi taluvad ja naljaga võtavad
30 January 2018 22:26
Margus Meigo replied to Janar Einula's comment.
Aga eks mingi elu ikka on... millest saab löpuks... lõpuks ehk päris elu ka neljakümnendate keskeks ehitatud
30 January 2018 22:20
Margus Meigo replied to Janar Einula's comment.
NU mis elu see on ütleks :D
30 January 2018 22:19
Margus Meigo replied to Kristel Meigo's comment.
Su - Nende tavapärast käitumiskoodi arvestades, tekib siia kas blokeering, ussitamine mu isa suunas, et ta siis hurjutaks mind Su paljastuse siin eemaldama (sest kuigi see pole SINu algse pere koodeks, on meie peredes, Vanemate austus elementaarne miinimum, millises iganes olukorras)
ja muidugi suur draama ja südamepuperdus mis Sul kohe tekib kui tõde, Sinu läbi tehtud rünnakutena peegelseinana Su enese ees seisab, Su oma olemust tagasi peegeldades,
mine tea, nii suured orjastused kas otse laborist või siis kolmtila verd andes tekivad, kuid me saame hakkama, Eestlased knaatavad ära kõik...
Ja muide, mäletad kui ütlesid, et 15-20 aasta pärast tüdruk kellega kirjutan, ei mäletagi mind, et olemas olen olnud: Suure enesekindlusega...naeruvääristasid...
Sinu meeleheaks veel lisama peaks, saame üksteisest aru veel paremini kui kunagi varem.
ussitamine jääb lõpuks alati armastusele alla ja kui armastus ei saa oma triumfi kohe, elab läbi palju kahjusi, kaotab võimalusi ja aega ajutiselt väikses maises plaanis.... siis vähemalt ei lase ta kunagi maal lõplikult mustusel valitseda ning jätab lootuse ja armastuse ellu
Kuid endiselt, lõpetuseks midagi head soovima Sullepeaks, ja saaks, et Sinu olemust veelgi paremaks transformeerida, sest see kahju mis teed mulle teed (lisaks teistele ka) endale ja kasu mis tood mulle, tood kogu ilmale,
Seega, kõike head, ja kui Süda päriselt avada soovid, siis tea, et olen olemas ka siis kui arvad, et kedagi enam pole, lihtsalt olen selline, üks osa mis (sinu sõnutsi värdialikusega, nagu amu mind kutsunud oled..) mu olemusega naturaalselt kaasneb, lisaks Meigode siirale ja mu ema heale südamele
Äitäh, et aitasid seda mul väljendada Kristel - anna teada, kui See liialt raske Su jaoks oli ja soovid,et eemaldaksin.
ja muidugi suur draama ja südamepuperdus mis Sul kohe tekib kui tõde, Sinu läbi tehtud rünnakutena peegelseinana Su enese ees seisab, Su oma olemust tagasi peegeldades,
mine tea, nii suured orjastused kas otse laborist või siis kolmtila verd andes tekivad, kuid me saame hakkama, Eestlased knaatavad ära kõik...
Ja muide, mäletad kui ütlesid, et 15-20 aasta pärast tüdruk kellega kirjutan, ei mäletagi mind, et olemas olen olnud: Suure enesekindlusega...naeruvääristasid...
Sinu meeleheaks veel lisama peaks, saame üksteisest aru veel paremini kui kunagi varem.
ussitamine jääb lõpuks alati armastusele alla ja kui armastus ei saa oma triumfi kohe, elab läbi palju kahjusi, kaotab võimalusi ja aega ajutiselt väikses maises plaanis.... siis vähemalt ei lase ta kunagi maal lõplikult mustusel valitseda ning jätab lootuse ja armastuse ellu
Kuid endiselt, lõpetuseks midagi head soovima Sullepeaks, ja saaks, et Sinu olemust veelgi paremaks transformeerida, sest see kahju mis teed mulle teed (lisaks teistele ka) endale ja kasu mis tood mulle, tood kogu ilmale,
Seega, kõike head, ja kui Süda päriselt avada soovid, siis tea, et olen olemas ka siis kui arvad, et kedagi enam pole, lihtsalt olen selline, üks osa mis (sinu sõnutsi värdialikusega, nagu amu mind kutsunud oled..) mu olemusega naturaalselt kaasneb, lisaks Meigode siirale ja mu ema heale südamele
Äitäh, et aitasid seda mul väljendada Kristel - anna teada, kui See liialt raske Su jaoks oli ja soovid,et eemaldaksin.
30 January 2018 22:03
Margus Meigo replied to Kristel Meigo's comment.
Kuid kui "filosoofiliselt" võtta, siis tõesti, mu kondistruktuur, verereinglus, toimimisvõime ja olemus on paljust tavalisest väga mitu astet miskit muud ja selle süsteemi kohaselt mis lainetes Sa rääkimas oled, tehniliselt need sõnad isegi paika peavad mis ütlesid, JUHUL kui me siin sellist taandarengulisi moraalitusi näha soovime, nagu selleks KGB kultuurihävitus programmis mille kaitseks nad läbi Sinu, viimaste hoiatus kaartidena, taolise rünnaku valisid. Eks me unes kuulanud ammu mida Sa rääkinud, nii lindistustes kui ilmsi. Ammu, lapsena juba arusaadud ju neid asju, mu"sugustel" on suhteliselt lihtne mõista.
Puhka rahus ajad lähevad paremaks
Puhka rahus ajad lähevad paremaks
30 January 2018 21:51
Margus Meigo replied to Kristel Meigo's comment.
Tere Võõrasema, Kristel Vlassov, palun Ära läbusta ning solva Meigo'de nime selliste sõnakasutustega (oma "ametlike" perelikmete osas veel.., Mõista ka Kumb meist rohkem Päris nimekandja on, meeldetuletuseks.).
Meigode pärandus on midagi Palju suuremat kui füüsiline katusealune mille saamise ihnuse ja paranoia osas mu surma soovitasid mu isale (koos räigete solvangutega), me mõlema kuuldes, pereema, mäletad seda?
Meigode pärandus on midagi Palju suuremat kui füüsiline katusealune mille saamise ihnuse ja paranoia osas mu surma soovitasid mu isale (koos räigete solvangutega), me mõlema kuuldes, pereema, mäletad seda?
30 January 2018 21:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidu selliste elementide taga olevad org ka asjadega seotud .. ju vist..
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=122209085259017&set=a.100347290778530.1073741828.100024097770286&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=122209085259017&set=a.100347290778530.1073741828.100024097770286&type=3&theater
30 January 2018 09:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1/4 rahva arvust praegu peaaegu ju välismaalased
30 January 2018 09:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eesti on praegu juba praegu ülerahvastatus eäärepeal, koos maailma suurimate pagulaste numbriga kes teisest maailmasõjast siia jäid ja veel eri misiooni ja plaaniga.
Jagage ruutmetri peale iga eestlasele kuuluv põllu ja metsamaa (riigimaast eraldi, eraldi soodest jne) ega siin suht äärepeal oleme, kui PÄRIS Eestlaste moodi elada soovime, kus naaber su aeda sisse ei vahi
Ja see, üt üksteise otsas elatakse, on üldse sleline pervetsus, et suursplaanis tasuks meil see moraalsete ja kultuuriliste solvangute, pervetsuste listi lisada... sest ega tegelikult see päris normaalne pole, et üksteise otsas elatakse
Jagage ruutmetri peale iga eestlasele kuuluv põllu ja metsamaa (riigimaast eraldi, eraldi soodest jne) ega siin suht äärepeal oleme, kui PÄRIS Eestlaste moodi elada soovime, kus naaber su aeda sisse ei vahi
Ja see, üt üksteise otsas elatakse, on üldse sleline pervetsus, et suursplaanis tasuks meil see moraalsete ja kultuuriliste solvangute, pervetsuste listi lisada... sest ega tegelikult see päris normaalne pole, et üksteise otsas elatakse
30 January 2018 09:37
Margus Meigo commented on Janu Tõrje's post.
See.. see oli nali eks?
30 January 2018 09:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214109527468933
30 January 2018 09:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui Põhja Koreasse plaan minna, siis ma leidsin päris nende kodumaa lennufirma mis sõbralik ja alla keskmise kuupalga edasitagasi viivad kohale ning mitu linna tuuritavad.
Paar head omaplaani ka oli mis aitaks piire lahjendada ..kuid eks näis, olümpiaga juba niigi suure progressi teevad!
(Muidugi šamanismi osas nad eriti eip osanud mulle soovitusi anda, et kustkohast ma nendega sääl kokku saada võiks.. )
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Või,et Koreas ka sellised majad, hea teada!
Paar head omaplaani ka oli mis aitaks piire lahjendada ..kuid eks näis, olümpiaga juba niigi suure progressi teevad!
(Muidugi šamanismi osas nad eriti eip osanud mulle soovitusi anda, et kustkohast ma nendega sääl kokku saada võiks.. )
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Või,et Koreas ka sellised majad, hea teada!
30 January 2018 09:17
Margus Meigo commented on Elina Netšajeva's photo.
Kas Thaimaal?
30 January 2018 09:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
not, that this would be good, if anyone is in prison.. this come out a bit wrong,
but this might make the sift that should have happened few years ago
but this might make the sift that should have happened few years ago
30 January 2018 08:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Full words:
Sai, nella notte per me,
Una stella c'è.
Lei mi rischiara la via
Per l’eternità,
È mia guida
Nel immensità,
Che non mi lascia mai.
La forza del destino
Volteggiar mi fa.
L'ora è vicina
Di felicità.
È sogno o realtà
La nostra affinità
Sull'ali dell'amore
Rosee...
Quando m'en vo
per la via,
Sempre libera,
Vorrei che intorno a me sia
Una favola.
Nostro amore
Guida a noi sarà
Nell'infinito
Per l'eternità.
Sai, nella notte per me,
Una stella c'è.
Lei mi rischiara la via
Per l’eternità,
È mia guida
Nel immensità,
Che non mi lascia mai.
La forza del destino
Volteggiar mi fa.
L'ora è vicina
Di felicità.
È sogno o realtà
La nostra affinità
Sull'ali dell'amore
Rosee...
Quando m'en vo
per la via,
Sempre libera,
Vorrei che intorno a me sia
Una favola.
Nostro amore
Guida a noi sarà
Nell'infinito
Per l'eternità.
30 January 2018 08:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
in English translation & link from Her page:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214109689072973/
https://www.facebook.com/elinanets/posts/10215370311715388
.:.
You know in the night for me
There is a star
It lights up my way
Always
It is my guide
in the immensity
And will never leave me
Destiny's force
Makes me fly near
to the hour of happiness
Is it a dream or is it real
Our closeness
That rises us on the wings of love
When I walk the path of life
Always carefree
I would like it to be a fairy tale around us
Our love
Will be a guide to us
Always and forevera
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/vb.1135161043/10214109689072973/
https://www.facebook.com/elinanets/posts/10215370311715388
.:.
You know in the night for me
There is a star
It lights up my way
Always
It is my guide
in the immensity
And will never leave me
Destiny's force
Makes me fly near
to the hour of happiness
Is it a dream or is it real
Our closeness
That rises us on the wings of love
When I walk the path of life
Always carefree
I would like it to be a fairy tale around us
Our love
Will be a guide to us
Always and forevera
30 January 2018 08:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
30 January 2018 07:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
sometimes it seems, to find proof with something that is som massive and easy to find, and easy to understand,... is kind of like finding proofs about cannabis: everyone who knows knows and mostly understands rest will ignore or campaign against
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10206491311258289&set=a.2900819196304.2143993.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10206491311258289&set=a.2900819196304.2143993.1135161043&type=3&theater
30 January 2018 07:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Tänud Peeter Tooma ! : )
30 January 2018 03:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
contact me,
and please, this work here is for everyone,
so please keep other posts as needed, it is needed to all to us
and please, this work here is for everyone,
so please keep other posts as needed, it is needed to all to us
30 January 2018 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Great work who ever posted that on my profile : )
Thanks for being sensible
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Thanks for being sensible
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30 January 2018 03:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=desinger+babyes+
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=desinger+babyes+
30 January 2018 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Actually was more about finding the eugenics info in videos..
also 1920 main topics..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT8AvOomIY4
also 1920 main topics..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT8AvOomIY4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT8AvOomIY4
30 January 2018 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
..all similar.. still worth to look once
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4c9jhzoV44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4c9jhzoV44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4c9jhzoV44
30 January 2018 02:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Wonder why they film this crap usually back on the days ..what about proper nature shoots..
30 January 2018 02:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
all city... no nature footage..
like agenda.. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EGAcDMSX-s
like agenda.. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EGAcDMSX-s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EGAcDMSX-s
30 January 2018 02:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Can see these formed tools, humans in suits in these times marching as army ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQV1_B63LTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQV1_B63LTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQV1_B63LTM
30 January 2018 02:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Berlin 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dF1IjU0Njc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dF1IjU0Njc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dF1IjU0Njc
30 January 2018 02:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Berlin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-m9A8mY-U0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-m9A8mY-U0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-m9A8mY-U0
30 January 2018 02:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
In color 1920 s
"This film is all colourised (i.e. B&W film that's had artificial colour added). However, natural colour film has existed since about 1901, and the earliest experiments with film with synchronised sound date back to the 1890s."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kjqZwAAUDk
"This film is all colourised (i.e. B&W film that's had artificial colour added). However, natural colour film has existed since about 1901, and the earliest experiments with film with synchronised sound date back to the 1890s."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kjqZwAAUDk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kjqZwAAUDk
30 January 2018 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214098956844674
30 January 2018 01:30
Margus Meigo replied to Hyacinth Calisch's comment.
spiritual money rules are complicated for me to explain but will try some day,
easy for me to take other people money, to make something good with it,
but not easy to do my real work i want to do, AND member my plan and just working on to get money for sake of money
easy for me to take other people money, to make something good with it,
but not easy to do my real work i want to do, AND member my plan and just working on to get money for sake of money
29 January 2018 14:55
Margus Meigo replied to Hyacinth Calisch's comment.
oh, if i would just be able to restart my plans,
last business i opened up with 5000 dollars ( :D ), in it was building a office and biz, with net cafe, sales room, repair room..tools... (2K was just cost of wood, rare was wood there 1.5k for workers i think..) and lasted 4 years eventually when had to close on personal reasons,before extending..
this would have been good story if plans would have carried fruits be on the dreams
i got this kind of spirit that has been trapped in money hole, from where have been able hard to come out spiritually, in a way that would keep my virtue.
have gone really low now..
but dreams and plans are highest jet
last business i opened up with 5000 dollars ( :D ), in it was building a office and biz, with net cafe, sales room, repair room..tools... (2K was just cost of wood, rare was wood there 1.5k for workers i think..) and lasted 4 years eventually when had to close on personal reasons,before extending..
this would have been good story if plans would have carried fruits be on the dreams
i got this kind of spirit that has been trapped in money hole, from where have been able hard to come out spiritually, in a way that would keep my virtue.
have gone really low now..
but dreams and plans are highest jet
29 January 2018 14:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Text below this line, just a thought feed, for these who are interested of my minds:
//really, and what can be done, what we accept other places, what is done with maybe normal people who are told to be insurgents and some yeah, elementary that system around them was kept in change so they must look like something that is below safe to assume to be good
but take look these other common definitions..rather usage.. and have we read description of word before, to imagine who they can be in your country when this who hunts normal ones, becomes as normality on to your world, you thought it was good system there and we help good? No we help so they would not attack us,
innit? some?
If so then still can be spent time to find what and where is this grew where all around are good, always move with good ones away together with some good ones around places, so eventually only good ones are in main connection and rest are regulated by them self for them self, similarity anyway for every type on their own
There was just 140 000 downloads for translation, in one page for Estonian, and movies loaded are looked also many times, so can imagine actual total times movies are re-looked thanks to digital freedom, #estonia will plan to keep
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//mõtte selgitus jälle, huvilistele lugemiseks ainult:
Nu igatahes, filmis mainitud asju ammu mitmel moel tehakse, erinevas silmadegruppis erinevat moodi, hübriitselt mitut moodi, niii eraldi inimesed, et mis lähedastega tehakse kui lähedased kaugeks muutuvad, isegi seda peetakse tavapäraseks, kuigi see kõike uud kui normaalne, eriti massiliselt, juba mingi väärolukorra suurus ise, peaks olema piisav arusaamiseks, selle olulisust inimestele teadasaadavaks teha mure sisu ja lahenduste vastuvõtu võimalused, mitmetelt erigruppidelt ja mõtteviisidelt ... kaardistamisekski, järgmiste vooludega mured japrobleemid puhastame, ikka globaalselt ka, kuidas muidu, väiksed ja suured
, aastaid jba rääkinud, see osa ainult loomingust, kuid tagasihoidlikuses ei ole seda valmis teinud ega neid võimalusi aktiivselt otsinud/märganud peale growdFunde erimaade platformides ...kiirlaenuga enda nimel saaks ka midagi tehtud, kuid kuigi äratasumises pole küsimus, inimmuredelahendamise keskuses kuid sooviksime pigem mitte võla, kui siis kingituse, koostöö, usalduse ja muu inimliku põhjal, mõistmise põhjal )
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//really, and what can be done, what we accept other places, what is done with maybe normal people who are told to be insurgents and some yeah, elementary that system around them was kept in change so they must look like something that is below safe to assume to be good
but take look these other common definitions..rather usage.. and have we read description of word before, to imagine who they can be in your country when this who hunts normal ones, becomes as normality on to your world, you thought it was good system there and we help good? No we help so they would not attack us,
innit? some?
If so then still can be spent time to find what and where is this grew where all around are good, always move with good ones away together with some good ones around places, so eventually only good ones are in main connection and rest are regulated by them self for them self, similarity anyway for every type on their own
There was just 140 000 downloads for translation, in one page for Estonian, and movies loaded are looked also many times, so can imagine actual total times movies are re-looked thanks to digital freedom, #estonia will plan to keep
-
//mõtte selgitus jälle, huvilistele lugemiseks ainult:
Nu igatahes, filmis mainitud asju ammu mitmel moel tehakse, erinevas silmadegruppis erinevat moodi, hübriitselt mitut moodi, niii eraldi inimesed, et mis lähedastega tehakse kui lähedased kaugeks muutuvad, isegi seda peetakse tavapäraseks, kuigi see kõike uud kui normaalne, eriti massiliselt, juba mingi väärolukorra suurus ise, peaks olema piisav arusaamiseks, selle olulisust inimestele teadasaadavaks teha mure sisu ja lahenduste vastuvõtu võimalused, mitmetelt erigruppidelt ja mõtteviisidelt ... kaardistamisekski, järgmiste vooludega mured japrobleemid puhastame, ikka globaalselt ka, kuidas muidu, väiksed ja suured
, aastaid jba rääkinud, see osa ainult loomingust, kuid tagasihoidlikuses ei ole seda valmis teinud ega neid võimalusi aktiivselt otsinud/märganud peale growdFunde erimaade platformides ...kiirlaenuga enda nimel saaks ka midagi tehtud, kuid kuigi äratasumises pole küsimus, inimmuredelahendamise keskuses kuid sooviksime pigem mitte võla, kui siis kingituse, koostöö, usalduse ja muu inimliku põhjal, mõistmise põhjal )
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29 January 2018 14:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
fantaasiat saab niisama igavusest keerutada, neil kes algidees pole ise aktiivselt sees, realiseerimas unistust,
kuid ainult ELAVA fantaasiaga saab ju osadest asjadest ilma õppimata arusaada ja lahendusigi pakkuda ning kergemini kohaneda, areneda
kuid ainult ELAVA fantaasiaga saab ju osadest asjadest ilma õppimata arusaada ja lahendusigi pakkuda ning kergemini kohaneda, areneda
29 January 2018 13:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Teate..keeleski rünnak laused, käibefraasid tehtud õige likvideerimiseks, nagu "elav fantaasi"
kujutage ette, kui see on kõike muud kui absoluutselt heasuunaline, mis onels siiis "elavafantaasia" antonüüm, vastand?
Kõlab elusalt, ilusalt?
I dont think so...
seega mis on see kuida speaks ja kuidas ei peaks olema...ja mida see SÕNA SÕNALT alustuseks tähendab..
kujutage ette, kui see on kõike muud kui absoluutselt heasuunaline, mis onels siiis "elavafantaasia" antonüüm, vastand?
Kõlab elusalt, ilusalt?
I dont think so...
seega mis on see kuida speaks ja kuidas ei peaks olema...ja mida see SÕNA SÕNALT alustuseks tähendab..
29 January 2018 13:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ku suur hulk filme kokku panna eir moodi saab eri tõelähedasi konsepte valmis, arusaadava mudelina, mitmetele gruppidele, kuid algus ksu oelme peaks ikkagi jääma puumajanduse juurde, kui just nii spirtuaalsesse olukroda maa jõudnud.. et hakatakse mõtlema, kas elus hingega muu soboib selliseks materialiks..
kuid seni kuni muus ilmas veel ebaelusaid elukohti ehitatakse.. millel teoreetiliselt raske vaimseid jms kaitseid panna... kuhu siis unedesse sisemurdjad vms su ruumi sissrutngiad sise saavad.. paremini kui taluõuele..
misk nii. nu ju mingid looduslikud mud asjad ka siis oelmas, kui juba nad, ja siis nad kes meid aidata saavad, ju neid siis maal rohkem ole ku itava ehitusprojekti planiga paneelmajas
kuid seni kuni muus ilmas veel ebaelusaid elukohti ehitatakse.. millel teoreetiliselt raske vaimseid jms kaitseid panna... kuhu siis unedesse sisemurdjad vms su ruumi sissrutngiad sise saavad.. paremini kui taluõuele..
misk nii. nu ju mingid looduslikud mud asjad ka siis oelmas, kui juba nad, ja siis nad kes meid aidata saavad, ju neid siis maal rohkem ole ku itava ehitusprojekti planiga paneelmajas
29 January 2018 13:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
õiglase eugeenika, rahvatarkuse põhisel..
29 January 2018 13:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
suunad kuhu on liikund ajaloos ja kuhu pole võimatu vanaajaloo muutisi meldetuletades.ja kui tänapäeva meelsused ja tehnoloogia vanaaja Tegelaste meelevalda anda...
mis siis teoreetiliselt juhtuda saaks, hullematki...meid sperma ja munarakkude pärast suht vaja, inkupaatorite ja spermakasvuviljadena,
eriti kui olemas muud liigid mida arvestada soovid,
või eliidid, rahva kasvatajad, väärastunud eugeenika
mis siis teoreetiliselt juhtuda saaks, hullematki...meid sperma ja munarakkude pärast suht vaja, inkupaatorite ja spermakasvuviljadena,
eriti kui olemas muud liigid mida arvestada soovid,
või eliidid, rahva kasvatajad, väärastunud eugeenika
29 January 2018 13:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
süsee süseeks, võta konsepty eri tõlgendused ja suunad,alustuseks
29 January 2018 13:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui, aga plaanid lahendust pakkuda, raskusi tunnetada, uusi avastusi lisada millest lahti ei pruugi saada kui oled headuse ilmas elanud // sest fakte teada pole sama kui lugu arusaada
29 January 2018 09:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eelmise laulu sonu MITTE kuulata neil kes soovivad ilusas ilmas hoida end sest see kirjeldab paranemisvaeselt mondasi traagilisi olukordasi
29 January 2018 09:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and please, these kind of songs, should not or should, why is it allowed in this kind of tone, or was it only way to bring needed memory to live, by how many people eyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Farh0EtDBNM
Compared to current worry about our local situation,
can You imagine total REAL situation feeling, what might have had, these women who choose to stay alive, awake and get tained with reallaty what is happened around the world and keep understanding partly at least in world, in many levels, so all world would not be turned to droids,
but half droids keep eachother and the proper force it self back , bottle neck problem also but..
the also think out better algorithms,,,right,,
// urh postimata, kirjutan hiljem mõttelopuni,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Farh0EtDBNM
Compared to current worry about our local situation,
can You imagine total REAL situation feeling, what might have had, these women who choose to stay alive, awake and get tained with reallaty what is happened around the world and keep understanding partly at least in world, in many levels, so all world would not be turned to droids,
but half droids keep eachother and the proper force it self back , bottle neck problem also but..
the also think out better algorithms,,,right,,
// urh postimata, kirjutan hiljem mõttelopuni,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Farh0EtDBNM
29 January 2018 09:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in message or tune, // oh, my bad 2 song play at same time.
29 January 2018 09:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in Queen words, She wants You to know,
But rest of the song, forget that, if it seems snealeasy..
But rest of the song, forget that, if it seems snealeasy..
29 January 2018 09:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lucky one, you the lucky one
29 January 2018 09:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The song, was from,
"How ever You feel today, You want us all to know this song, today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcRZ_J_VgNc / #Qunion
Just rember, even just the main 2 words,or 4
"How ever You feel today, You want us all to know this song, today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcRZ_J_VgNc / #Qunion
Just rember, even just the main 2 words,or 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcRZ_J_VgNc
29 January 2018 09:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
urr, filmile.. ok, vaatba selle maise ulme siis ä
29 January 2018 09:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui iganes kosmoseks kisun, pidagemeeles,kaugele ple vaja lennata, sest kuskil siin, on maapealne paradiis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJNfvRuoFh4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJNfvRuoFh4
29 January 2018 09:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuigi moni võiks vaielda ja öelda, et nemad olid enne,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6-kPe8woyA
Mõeldud selle mõttega, et inimkonda äratada ellu arusaama osas, mis ümberrini räägitakse, propakandat, et oleks nagu kosmos olemas,
ja siis eestlased iroonias ajast ette näidendlaulu tegid mitme paraleeliga, ka lihtsa ..."mees end nii eraldanud, et nagu kosmos maa, mehejaoks naise elementaarne päris reaalsus on kosmos, jasee mis meesväljamõelmud või poolenisti arusaamaligi jõudnud kogu
mina tean, et saab paremii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXR13Yl-USw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6-kPe8woyA
Mõeldud selle mõttega, et inimkonda äratada ellu arusaama osas, mis ümberrini räägitakse, propakandat, et oleks nagu kosmos olemas,
ja siis eestlased iroonias ajast ette näidendlaulu tegid mitme paraleeliga, ka lihtsa ..."mees end nii eraldanud, et nagu kosmos maa, mehejaoks naise elementaarne päris reaalsus on kosmos, jasee mis meesväljamõelmud või poolenisti arusaamaligi jõudnud kogu
mina tean, et saab paremii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXR13Yl-USw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6-kPe8woyA
29 January 2018 09:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
First singer who song them self in to the space,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PilONE2FjA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PilONE2FjA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PilONE2FjA
29 January 2018 09:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
i should actually be looking the 200 years in future, like in this song,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uVFV2JWCLQ ..oh, 200 to re-occurring, mentioning to say, this date is what you see
Mitte see laul ,aga see kus naine üksi laulab ja mainib 200 aastat (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxG7lZVrVOs)
// But these songs matter not so much, as it matters, if She feels should they keep England people or what, or do you think "aliens" will ask from, by democracy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uVFV2JWCLQ ..oh, 200 to re-occurring, mentioning to say, this date is what you see
Mitte see laul ,aga see kus naine üksi laulab ja mainib 200 aastat (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxG7lZVrVOs)
// But these songs matter not so much, as it matters, if She feels should they keep England people or what, or do you think "aliens" will ask from, by democracy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uVFV2JWCLQ
29 January 2018 09:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nagu kommunism põhimõteliselt, kui d ok, ma nüüd edasi märkmeid kirjutama , filmi ridadevahel oleva info osas
29 January 2018 08:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
anyone on what ever level they claim to be
who forces Good
with not protection force but with self (as)supporting final enemy (danger)
then You know, at best to be Good with them and obey when will be possibility to leave, with larger mind to help them eventually , out from their forces, as you see them as potential to do anything out of basic sins (or just enough is hitting with self attack // extremely bothered .. yes, but attacker, to go after life or harm even just to force under obey'ense is at minimum slightly over a border of Good )
who forces Good
with not protection force but with self (as)supporting final enemy (danger)
then You know, at best to be Good with them and obey when will be possibility to leave, with larger mind to help them eventually , out from their forces, as you see them as potential to do anything out of basic sins (or just enough is hitting with self attack // extremely bothered .. yes, but attacker, to go after life or harm even just to force under obey'ense is at minimum slightly over a border of Good )
29 January 2018 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Yong people to easily accept leaders for them self
And is already dangerous when 7 or even less obey to one, can You imagine what respect have to be, to a person structure, if group is way larger who obey,
..then justification to anything rises,
but thumb rule must be, no more then Good
//just for diversion:
The Derek Zoolander Center For Kids Who Can't Read Good
And is already dangerous when 7 or even less obey to one, can You imagine what respect have to be, to a person structure, if group is way larger who obey,
..then justification to anything rises,
but thumb rule must be, no more then Good
//just for diversion:
The Derek Zoolander Center For Kids Who Can't Read Good
29 January 2018 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to Lawee Zodok Shamu-El's comment.
no need, it takes Cybercurrency, only,
but value is not in money
but with money we can buy value
but value is not in money
but with money we can buy value
29 January 2018 02:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
From Good to Good
The Derek Zoolander Center For Kids Who Can't Read Good
Hospitallers Order of the Good News
For Good's Sake
Have You been in the Celsius 40 degrees bub? Who come to this idea to show Estonia Zoo there ?
We should use live cameras for more direct communication around the world //
"...and he wept..! " Bill Hicks ?
Ram Dass, Love Serve Remember // i my self eventually on folk music
The Derek Zoolander Center For Kids Who Can't Read Good
Hospitallers Order of the Good News
For Good's Sake
Have You been in the Celsius 40 degrees bub? Who come to this idea to show Estonia Zoo there ?
We should use live cameras for more direct communication around the world //
"...and he wept..! " Bill Hicks ?
Ram Dass, Love Serve Remember // i my self eventually on folk music
29 January 2018 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
We should get this Russia back soon
Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia // You know,
it is to suspicious, the TV shows,
Seems that USA or someone play world smartest, in positions, in to believe as Russia or someone took over America and will make look as Russia eventually would be orchestrated by desire or ultimatum to invade world from inside USA and smooth way on the way, will transform it with USA or whoever flags: as who is inside is on highest level in all mayor arias and levels known to be able to grow to rule
// extra insurgence, what is written should be elementary but these ways, to legalize, to be able to be seen, what Good can be made, should also be legal, to be supported, to be accessed and understood : service as that, for people, to be able to explain their product, something platform team OR AI who can pick a brain and set up the explanation and elementary answers,
i think i can do it on the way writing up the plan,
issue is always, as same as always, i am poor (some Old Kihnu Virve told, some people are made not to be able to have money, so they would be forced to be kept, in situations of poverty even if they look good, as soon they would start to move, even the solid foundation can be moved, in so many ways, ... so perhaps is good that i am as from another planet, basically )
Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia // You know,
it is to suspicious, the TV shows,
Seems that USA or someone play world smartest, in positions, in to believe as Russia or someone took over America and will make look as Russia eventually would be orchestrated by desire or ultimatum to invade world from inside USA and smooth way on the way, will transform it with USA or whoever flags: as who is inside is on highest level in all mayor arias and levels known to be able to grow to rule
// extra insurgence, what is written should be elementary but these ways, to legalize, to be able to be seen, what Good can be made, should also be legal, to be supported, to be accessed and understood : service as that, for people, to be able to explain their product, something platform team OR AI who can pick a brain and set up the explanation and elementary answers,
i think i can do it on the way writing up the plan,
issue is always, as same as always, i am poor (some Old Kihnu Virve told, some people are made not to be able to have money, so they would be forced to be kept, in situations of poverty even if they look good, as soon they would start to move, even the solid foundation can be moved, in so many ways, ... so perhaps is good that i am as from another planet, basically )
29 January 2018 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to Isa Linda's comment.
Isa Linda i know they force on it hard
these days they some just refuse to agree
and them will make face, i as it would be normal
to behave in a way
that forcing something "exsosting" would be legal or keeping away dreams
these days they some just refuse to agree
and them will make face, i as it would be normal
to behave in a way
that forcing something "exsosting" would be legal or keeping away dreams
29 January 2018 02:30
Margus Meigo replied to Danish Rafique's comment.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10214096794030605&set=a.10203822986631841.1073741829.1135161043&type=3&theater
Just, to join in
Just, to join in
29 January 2018 02:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Did You wonder, what happened, people, who look Peace in the world?
29 January 2018 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Serge Quintal No, we in Estonia
29 January 2018 02:15
Margus Meigo replied to Serge Quintal's comment.
"it seems as.. they do not"
29 January 2018 02:03
Margus Meigo replied to Serge Quintal's comment.
yes i know, it seems they do not but actually, we are just kept away from connecting
29 January 2018 02:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
they also call me a psychiatrist and a translator as they did not get, why would i not sing a paper what told that i was not guilty in their words, got along well with them as well
29 January 2018 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on Serge Quintal's post.
I have totally different experience,
infact, police repeatedly try to throw me out from their premises when i demanded arrest , finally next day i give up and leaved on my own
infact, police repeatedly try to throw me out from their premises when i demanded arrest , finally next day i give up and leaved on my own
29 January 2018 01:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see käis saatejuhi kohta, kui ta ise veel poel arusaanud millega ta tegeleb, siis Jumal annab andeks
28 January 2018 21:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Saria lõpu nali oli kuidas luulega naist ära ei sebi, et kord proovis ja siis ei saanutki teda see õhtu panna (seda sõna korduvalt kasutas) ja saatejuhi lõpusõnad: Ärge midagi tõtt tõna kindlasti kallimale öelge, vaid VALETAGE midagi ilusat kokku.
Nu täiesti haiged värdinimesed kuidas sellised eetrisse lastakse
Nu täiesti haiged värdinimesed kuidas sellised eetrisse lastakse
28 January 2018 21:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://rutube.ru/video/997e4afbbf36e2625034a8362b36a03a/
https://rutube.ru/video/997e4afbbf36e2625034a8362b36a03a/
28 January 2018 20:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://vk.com/video-32057616_456239585
https://rutube.ru/video/74c735c230ebd1bf41b4efdfe365ad60/
https://rutube.ru/video/74c735c230ebd1bf41b4efdfe365ad60/
https://vk.com/video-32057616_456239585
28 January 2018 20:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Neil endil see sari ikka parem.. kuid eks see üks kultuurimõnitus ja alandusprogramm ole
https://ok.ru/video/230177375582
https://ok.ru/video/230177375582
https://ok.ru/video/230177375582
28 January 2018 20:49
Margus Meigo commented on Francine Huaman's photo.
Liked when was there :)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212375341715373&set=a.10212375292954154.1073741883.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212375341715373&set=a.10212375292954154.1073741883.1135161043&type=3&theater
28 January 2018 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on Francine Huaman's photo.
Blue & White
28 January 2018 17:53
Margus Meigo commented on Francine Huaman's photo.
Oh, You in Nature!
28 January 2018 17:40
Margus Meigo commented on Francine Huaman's photo.
Great Lilly's
28 January 2018 17:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiFB5kxNpxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiFB5kxNpxY
28 January 2018 07:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v35rsNqSnM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v35rsNqSnM
28 January 2018 07:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiFB5kxNpxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiFB5kxNpxY
28 January 2018 07:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvAWvn2Tpps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvAWvn2Tpps
28 January 2018 07:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGM7R8pZGeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGM7R8pZGeM
28 January 2018 07:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVZzAXp3iDo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVZzAXp3iDo
28 January 2018 07:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgMzSDsIxYw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgMzSDsIxYw
28 January 2018 07:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoKNy8a9n0M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoKNy8a9n0M
28 January 2018 07:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROvL0y0hfxs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROvL0y0hfxs
28 January 2018 07:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC0GtP9OAWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC0GtP9OAWQ
28 January 2018 07:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYYNGw5zNA8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYYNGw5zNA8
28 January 2018 06:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG5W2idIy9o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG5W2idIy9o
28 January 2018 06:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9cLDcOi_wM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9cLDcOi_wM
28 January 2018 06:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM2z0W_JK-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM2z0W_JK-4
28 January 2018 06:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-secret-traditions-of-the-shinobi-antony-cummins/1110933327
http://www.pearltrees.com/aroman/antony-cummins/id10100484
http://www.pearltrees.com/aroman/antony-cummins/id10100484
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-secret-traditions-of-the-shinobi-antony-cummins/1110933327
28 January 2018 06:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: CIA - Central Intelligence Agency
Jak do not overexcite, fine by me if You send me a Christmas bonus28 January 2018 05:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: CIA - Central Intelligence Agency
also make few videos on heat, damage and acid tests28 January 2018 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: CIA - Central Intelligence Agency
So drop them in to the package, for few bucks, add that to the deal, and make more sharp pictures as well.28 January 2018 04:27
Margus Meigo commented on Simone Massetti's post.
Take Terrence dosage of magic mushrooms for few years in combination with...
(and minus the desire for alcohol and other harms..)
and find out
(and minus the desire for alcohol and other harms..)
and find out
28 January 2018 04:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: CIA - Central Intelligence Agency
but You got the knifes?28 January 2018 04:23
Margus Meigo commented on Simone Massetti's photo.
so so what we got here..
28 January 2018 04:22
Margus Meigo commented on Jak's post.
Group: CIA - Central Intelligence Agency
So the knifes comes with boots?28 January 2018 04:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
playing with a ego and society norms, public appearance
28 January 2018 03:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
man's humor
28 January 2018 03:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Või kui oled kaardistanud, et on vaja eeskujusid, tuge ja mõistmist, siis mis plaanid selleks on (pakett nende sõnade sisust ja tegudest?),
millised on kivisse raiutud väärtused ja sihid millest Eesti noored ühtlaselt arusaaksid, kui Nigeerlane, Korealne, Ladina Ameerika Šamaan küsib seda neilt ?
Või kui mõni noor ise, vanematelt küsib, mida teavad, Eesti vanemad ühtlaselt, milleosas saavad kõik ühtlaselt nõustuda kes EESTI meelsed liidud? Millele ei vaielda vastu
millised on kivisse raiutud väärtused ja sihid millest Eesti noored ühtlaselt arusaaksid, kui Nigeerlane, Korealne, Ladina Ameerika Šamaan küsib seda neilt ?
Või kui mõni noor ise, vanematelt küsib, mida teavad, Eesti vanemad ühtlaselt, milleosas saavad kõik ühtlaselt nõustuda kes EESTI meelsed liidud? Millele ei vaielda vastu
28 January 2018 00:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Totalitaarselt tervemõistuslikku elukorraldust ongi vaja.
IRL Noored kui riigis väärtused pole kohustuslikud siis see koht ei vääri ka riigi nime,
vanal ajal iisrealased oma riiki lausa naisena vist kujutlesid, kellega abiellutakse.
Kui on abielu, ja üksteiselt ei nõuta vigade likvideerimist ega aktiivselt ei aidata parandustele kaasa mis armastust sellest tulla saab?
Mis siis on riiklikud plaanid suurendamiseks endasuunalist armastust?
IRL Noored kui riigis väärtused pole kohustuslikud siis see koht ei vääri ka riigi nime,
vanal ajal iisrealased oma riiki lausa naisena vist kujutlesid, kellega abiellutakse.
Kui on abielu, ja üksteiselt ei nõuta vigade likvideerimist ega aktiivselt ei aidata parandustele kaasa mis armastust sellest tulla saab?
Mis siis on riiklikud plaanid suurendamiseks endasuunalist armastust?
28 January 2018 00:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
IRL Noored mis lahendused Siis teil on nendetarvis, kellel kodust kaasa ei tulnud ?
Ja mis põhjused, selgitused on siis nendele lastele selgitamaks, miks nende peres pole väärtusi ?
Ja mis siis ikkagi juhtus, et väärtused kadusid ja mis see riiklik plaan on väärtuste kohustuslikuks tegemise osas?
Ja mis põhjused, selgitused on siis nendele lastele selgitamaks, miks nende peres pole väärtusi ?
Ja mis siis ikkagi juhtus, et väärtused kadusid ja mis see riiklik plaan on väärtuste kohustuslikuks tegemise osas?
27 January 2018 23:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
IRL Noored väärtusi saab muudmoodi ka, üleöögi kasvatada-arendada,
selleks on vahendid ja tehnoloogia olemas.
selleks on vahendid ja tehnoloogia olemas.
27 January 2018 23:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Isamaa 2.0 - Isamaa sõprade klubi
viimaste osas suts keerulisem muidugi, sest ühtedele saab otse öelda mis on polaanis teistele aga tuleb selgitad,a miks see ka neile lõppkokkuvõttes kasulik on27 January 2018 23:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Isamaa 2.0 - Isamaa sõprade klubi
ühine joon muidugi on nii liberaalide kui teiste puhul, et meid ja neid kõiki trikitatakse südame pettuste kaudu,
peaaegu iga liigi koosluses olev grupp, on enamasti liitunud, sest soovib paremaks midagi teha ja paha vastu olla, ja selles osas, tuleb igast kanakarjadele andeks anda, mitte, et siin kanasi solvata sooviks ,sõna lihtsalt pehmelt meeldivaks muutunud, masshüsteeria ja massmanipulatsiooni mõjul liikuvate jõudude osas.
Pumbatakse suuri summasi, sadu tuhandeid küll Objktiivi.. kuid reaalseid plaane ja asju mida teha saaks, inimeste meelte muutmiseks ja päästmiseks on palju, palju väiksemate summade eest.
ma ise oma rahvuslike plaanide jaoks aga ameeriklastelt või liberaalidelt endilt olen nõus rahastust otsima, mine tea, ehk õnnestub27 January 2018 23:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Isamaa 2.0 - Isamaa sõprade klubi
Kuid liberaalidele, peaks see küll hea blueprintolema (ja äratus ka helesinisest unest, uuskonservatiivdele), et mis moodi nendesuguseid organisatsioone tehakse ja mis vahe on päris liitudel ja taolistel, kanakarjade karjatamiseks loodud, kõrgeima potensiaalse headuse vastaste organisatsioonide poolt. Religiooni silmis lausa mustade vaimsete jõudude poolt, esoteerikute arvates surma maailma vaimude ja kaasaegsete noorte ulmeinimeste arvates tulnukad ise, kes siin meie liiki vallutada ja karjatada soovivad.
Kuid isegi kõige kõige positiivsema varjandipuhul, on siin asi äärmiselt nii nutune kui olla saab,
kuid kidas seda uuele generatsioonile arusaadavasse keelde panna, ehk mõne aruka filmiklipi ja paraleelselt tarkade neti paroodiatega?
Väikestviisi algust NSV liidu sarjas juba tehti, kus kaks kagebiiti arutasid, kuidas marurahvuslaste sekka inflateerida uutel aegadel27 January 2018 23:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ple õrna aimugi mix seda kõike erldi pstitama pdid
27 January 2018 23:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Korterikaaslased - Flatmate
hull pilt :D27 January 2018 22:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Korterikaaslased - Flatmate
Taavi Albert oh mul praeguseks juba olemas, lihtsalt lähev veel mõniaeg aega, et toimima saada.
Õnneks kirjutised ja märkmed enamus kuivas kohas27 January 2018 22:24
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's photo.
Nu suur rist ju seljapeal, nendega tegin lapseeas palju projekte, sai kogutud ja ... oh vaene ema
27 January 2018 17:12
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's photo.
Karl?
27 January 2018 17:09
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Wau!
27 January 2018 17:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Few more pictures from Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia :
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.1510360515706.2067466.1135161043&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.1510360515706.2067466.1135161043&type=3
27 January 2018 15:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
hahhaa try to make all that with alone, in old timer camera, what was am thinking, but well, was worth it:D
27 January 2018 15:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Another times and sides of Africa travels:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.1030866008643.2005393.1135161043
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.1030866008643.2005393.1135161043
27 January 2018 15:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
A bit before this:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.1017044223107.2003443.1135161043&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.1017044223107.2003443.1135161043&type=3
27 January 2018 15:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
A bit more: https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.1030867048669.2005395.1135161043&type=3
27 January 2018 15:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
More albums from Africa
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.1022531160277.2004191.1135161043&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.1022531160277.2004191.1135161043&type=3
27 January 2018 15:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
More with friends:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.1003136435421.2000997.1135161043&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.1003136435421.2000997.1135161043&type=3
27 January 2018 15:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mõniosa tundub kergelt ülepaisutatud kuid tegelikult on olukord palju suurem kui sõnadesse mahub
27 January 2018 15:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
käsitleda pole vaja tõsimeeli igast võõrriiigi ideid mis juba käsitletud ja selgeks saadud, mõtlema peaksime, kuidas praeguse teenistuses olijad midagi eluks tarvilikku õpiksid, et neist Naistele ja maarahva ülesehitamisel kasu oleks, praktiliselt, hingeliselt, mitte mõelda, kuidas võõrriigi palgasõduriks inimesi suunata.
Keelata muidugi ei tohi, kui kellegil soov.
"Naised KA valmistuvad sõjaks" välispropakanda ja strateegide jaoks kõrvalriigis aitaks sõjaolukorra sammuke rohkem sisse lülitada, sest "ilmselgelt, Eesti valmistub skandinaavia eeskujul sõjaks, baasid juba olemas neil ju ja see alati enne sõda viimane samm olnud... "
Kuna Eesti selline, maakera üks keskpunktidest, Nato, EU, Skandinaavia ja Rooma impeeriumi nurk (lisaks muule eelajaloolisele)..siis kui siin uuel ajal sõda tuleb on see ainult kahel moel: sellisel nagu ta praegu toimib me silmeall või siis Eestlasi välja lülitades, suurrelvadega täispuhastus üleöö, suurtemate ideede ja tuleviku nimel, tulgu siia parkimisplats või kuivanud soo.
150 aastat hiljem keegi eriti ei mäletakski, et mis siin nurgas oli, kui me siin kaua kurja narrime. Venemaa-Türgi täis palju suuremaid riike, keda ei teatagi, et olemas on olnud.
Teeme parem kohustuslikuks ajateenistujatel globaalse ja strateegilise hariduse, naistele kui, siis tuleks kultuuri ja väärtuste kool kohustuslikuks teha paari aastane, et ei oldaks enam litsi mentaalsusega esimeses nooruses ja kuldses keskeakriisis. Sest see vaimselt lammutab hinged lõpuks, vanade tarkade arusaamade kohaselt.
Keelata muidugi ei tohi, kui kellegil soov.
"Naised KA valmistuvad sõjaks" välispropakanda ja strateegide jaoks kõrvalriigis aitaks sõjaolukorra sammuke rohkem sisse lülitada, sest "ilmselgelt, Eesti valmistub skandinaavia eeskujul sõjaks, baasid juba olemas neil ju ja see alati enne sõda viimane samm olnud... "
Kuna Eesti selline, maakera üks keskpunktidest, Nato, EU, Skandinaavia ja Rooma impeeriumi nurk (lisaks muule eelajaloolisele)..siis kui siin uuel ajal sõda tuleb on see ainult kahel moel: sellisel nagu ta praegu toimib me silmeall või siis Eestlasi välja lülitades, suurrelvadega täispuhastus üleöö, suurtemate ideede ja tuleviku nimel, tulgu siia parkimisplats või kuivanud soo.
150 aastat hiljem keegi eriti ei mäletakski, et mis siin nurgas oli, kui me siin kaua kurja narrime. Venemaa-Türgi täis palju suuremaid riike, keda ei teatagi, et olemas on olnud.
Teeme parem kohustuslikuks ajateenistujatel globaalse ja strateegilise hariduse, naistele kui, siis tuleks kultuuri ja väärtuste kool kohustuslikuks teha paari aastane, et ei oldaks enam litsi mentaalsusega esimeses nooruses ja kuldses keskeakriisis. Sest see vaimselt lammutab hinged lõpuks, vanade tarkade arusaamade kohaselt.
27 January 2018 15:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Parempoolsuse & Vabaduse Kongress demokraatia on saatanast, kutsun seda demon-crazy'ks.
Ega ometi igaühehääl siis samavõrdne igal ajahetkel ja olukorras pole.
kui Sul korralik pikk vastus, loen ja mõtlen veel
Ega ometi igaühehääl siis samavõrdne igal ajahetkel ja olukorras pole.
kui Sul korralik pikk vastus, loen ja mõtlen veel
27 January 2018 14:15
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Ja eks sedagi mõista mitte veel paljud kui ma vastupidist ütlen27 January 2018 12:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: CIA Operative Friends
No?27 January 2018 12:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: CIA - Central Intelligence Agency
Nu=?27 January 2018 12:17
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Meelis Vesi ei, see ei tähenda, et Selle ise ärasööma peaksid,
Mis pidi Sa seda Kristlust õpid, akadeemiliselt v27 January 2018 07:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: CIA operative Friends
Would make interesting point, if that is true, as it was told27 January 2018 07:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: CIA - Central Intelligence Agency
Would make interesting point, if that is true, as it was told27 January 2018 07:33
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Mõtted nii olulised, et kui mõttes oma naist petad, oled seda ka ilmsi teinud
Ja iga mõte mis mõeldud, on kuskile tallele pandud, sõna otseses mõttes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGC5cjVPynkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGC5cjVPynk
27 January 2018 07:16
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Meelis Vesi Siis pole ju üldse mõtet mõelda kui nii oleks27 January 2018 07:15
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
27 January 2018 07:11
Margus Meigo replied to Fernando Bittencourt de Magalhães's comment.
write to me in inbox directly Fernando
27 January 2018 07:11
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Et, siis Eesti päästab iisreali27 January 2018 07:09
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Ma ei tea kuidas Sina mõtled, mina rohkem nagu mõtlen kuidas iisrealy saatust päästa27 January 2018 07:08
Margus Meigo replied to Kai Brauer's comment.
Group: Isamaa 2.0 - Isamaa sõprade klubi
seeder pole seda minusilmis veel siiani teinud, kuid eks ma pea ka tihedamini jälgima..27 January 2018 06:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Isamaa 2.0 - Isamaa sõprade klubi
St. ei tohi diskrimineerida, et kui pole Eestimeelne, siis ei müü jms27 January 2018 06:11
Margus Meigo commented on IRL Noored's post.
Nu nii debiilsust küll meie riigis ei sooviks näha, mei lvaja kohustuslikku inimese arengut, naise arengut ja mehe arengut,
mehed peaksid kohustuslikus korras õppima eluks vajalikud oskused, majaehtisuest puuasjade tegemiseni, naise armastuseni ja veel ühte teist kultuurset, oleks absoluutne miinimum kui iseendana alles jääda soovime
mehed peaksid kohustuslikus korras õppima eluks vajalikud oskused, majaehtisuest puuasjade tegemiseni, naise armastuseni ja veel ühte teist kultuurset, oleks absoluutne miinimum kui iseendana alles jääda soovime
27 January 2018 06:05
Margus Meigo commented on Taavi Pärtel's post.
Group: Isamaa 2.0 - Isamaa sõprade klubi
Seeder on üks tark mees, kes ka olulise vastuse andis Viljandis, selles osas mis saame peale hakata EU seadusega mis lubab Venemaal või millisel iganes Aafrika firmal kõik vaba maa ja metsa, sõjaväe-luure baasiks või milleks iganes meie maal osta, varjatult või avalikult, ning EU liiketele, asi pole lubamises.. vaid see nende õigus ja meie kohustus, et PEAME müüma lausa.. oma maa ära.. kui nad osta soovivad.27 January 2018 05:59
Margus Meigo replied to Kai Brauer's comment.
Group: Isamaa 2.0 - Isamaa sõprade klubi
Õigeon see,kes oma enda Riigi valitsuse kallal päevastpäeva ei ilgu, ja kes oma riigi moraali koos tuntud riigivastastega maha ei tee.
Õigemini, kes KUNAGI oma RIIGI kallal ei ilgu!
Suht nukker on, kui Eestlaste arusaame võime on nii kadunud, et ei olda suutelised nägema mis otse silme all juhtub. KÕIK EKRE toetajad, kaudsed või ligidased PEAVAD vaatama ka TallinnnaTV poliitsaateid, arusaamaks, mida nad toetavad ja mis eesmärkidel.
Kui nad ei vaata, siis see on juba ÄÄRMINE veidrus ja katastroof omamoodi.
Teistpidi vaadates muidugi äärmiselt meeldiv ja armas, et Eestlased, eriti EKRE toetuskond, on NII siirad ja headsüdamlikud, usklikud, et usuvad, et Looja selle olukorra päästab ning usuvad, et nagu polekski tegu ilmselge Riigi inflatratsioooniga. Nagu polekski Välisriigi Eriteenistuse kirvega lammutamine meie moraali ja identiteedi kallal, sest kui nad ise seda ütleksid mille panevad EKRE ütlema, siis seda ju ei kuuldaks sedasi... kui aga käsk on teeselda ja ise uskuda, et ollakse Konservatiivsed.. siis..
Kokkuleppe võiks sellegi teha, et metsavenna usku vähemalt teevad pakti, et mida teha, nende äraandjatega, kui saab kindlaks, kes .. ja kuidas...
Ja rääkides Rooma impeeriumi globalselst imperialismist, vaadake kas või seda näidet:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Parempoolsuse-Vabaduse-Kongress-1152039574809590/about/?ref=page_internal
"Parempoolsuse & Vabaduse Kongress on Eesti jaoks uus paremlibertarianistlik, konservatiivliberaalne, antisüsteemi reaalpoliitiline jõud, mis hakkab toetuma Rooma õigusele,...."
Vot mis huvitav moodustis, ja kõlab keelelisemaagiaga peaaegu, et selliselt, et hakka ise ka uskuma eks.
Mis on lõplik idee mõte, Eesti vanarahva ülesäratamine ja MEIEsuguste kultuuride elushoidmine või on rohkem miskid liberaalsed-pseudokonservatiivsed globaalsed ärilised kaubanduslikud ideed...facebook.com
Parempoolsuse & Vabaduse Kongress
27 January 2018 05:57
Margus Meigo commented on Parempoolsuse & Vabaduse Kongress's post.
Ega lahendus siis ei ole mitte lõpetata riigiomand, vaid valida, kes saavad riigiomandi üle otsustada ja valida nende poolt kes on hingega inimesed, mitte lihtsalt ülikonnas ärimehed.
Võiksime ka pilte panna, kus kui "era" WC ükspäev, ilma hoiatuseta, saab likvideeritud, kui vaja
See, et riigis on need kes asja korrast lasevad, on selle sama süsteemi süü, mitte Riigi idee süü,
Mina hääletan kahe käega riigi omandi poolt, ja ärimehed peavad alluma riigi eeskirjadele mis omakorda tulevad maainimeste nõudmisest, kes teavad mida ja kuidas on inimarenguks vaja, kuidas on asjad iidsetel aegadel onlnud
Võiksime ka pilte panna, kus kui "era" WC ükspäev, ilma hoiatuseta, saab likvideeritud, kui vaja
See, et riigis on need kes asja korrast lasevad, on selle sama süsteemi süü, mitte Riigi idee süü,
Mina hääletan kahe käega riigi omandi poolt, ja ärimehed peavad alluma riigi eeskirjadele mis omakorda tulevad maainimeste nõudmisest, kes teavad mida ja kuidas on inimarenguks vaja, kuidas on asjad iidsetel aegadel onlnud
27 January 2018 05:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214078280647782
27 January 2018 03:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214078279527754
27 January 2018 03:50
Margus Meigo commented on Fernando Bittencourt de Magalhães's post.
I just recollect them here:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214078270367525
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214078270367525
27 January 2018 03:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
27 January 2018 02:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Even the Kukerpillid is in there:
https://mp3-tut.com/music/1045109
https://mp3-tut.com/music/1045109
https://mp3-tut.com/music/1045109
27 January 2018 02:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But seriously, this is one of the best MP3 portals i have seen in these late times, one click download no tricking by webmasters
https://mp3-tut.com/music/1043231
https://mp3-tut.com/music/1043231
https://mp3-tut.com/music/1043231
27 January 2018 02:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
27 January 2018 02:35
Margus Meigo commented on Ragne Joerand's post.
OMG!
26 January 2018 23:27
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
What a statistics, i thought they were pentagram people who was on it
26 January 2018 23:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"When questioned by a top aide as to whether the 95% figure was accurate, Putin sighed heavily and fixed the assembled group with his trademark stare before explaining that in regards to how the world is run, all is not how it seems.
Putin affirms that the CIA is a rogue element of the Deep State, and “an expression of the will of world oligarchy and their vision for a New World Order.“
He claimes that CIA exists today as part of America – but it is certainly not American. “The CIA does not work on behalf of the American people or act in their interests.”
Asked if he thought the St Petersburg bomb was the beginning of a CIA plot to oust him from power, as has been suggested in the media, Putin answered, “It will take more than a bag of tricks in a subway to make me blink.“
Putin also told: "mankind has been manipulated to become “unconscious” through the use of programming by media and politics. "
https://www.geopolitica.ru/en/news/putin-95-world-terrorist-attacks-are-made-cia
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Good there is made the Deep State 2.0 before DJ drop the mic, so the USA can restore the order, once the opportunity is given ... 5 years more not much more
Even thought the plans was for global reUnion around 2020 with all these space programs and..
Talking about unions to keep eye as well., from old times..
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/01/democrats-paid-a-huge-price-for-letting-unions-die.html
Putin affirms that the CIA is a rogue element of the Deep State, and “an expression of the will of world oligarchy and their vision for a New World Order.“
He claimes that CIA exists today as part of America – but it is certainly not American. “The CIA does not work on behalf of the American people or act in their interests.”
Asked if he thought the St Petersburg bomb was the beginning of a CIA plot to oust him from power, as has been suggested in the media, Putin answered, “It will take more than a bag of tricks in a subway to make me blink.“
Putin also told: "mankind has been manipulated to become “unconscious” through the use of programming by media and politics. "
https://www.geopolitica.ru/en/news/putin-95-world-terrorist-attacks-are-made-cia
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Good there is made the Deep State 2.0 before DJ drop the mic, so the USA can restore the order, once the opportunity is given ... 5 years more not much more
Even thought the plans was for global reUnion around 2020 with all these space programs and..
Talking about unions to keep eye as well., from old times..
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/01/democrats-paid-a-huge-price-for-letting-unions-die.html
26 January 2018 23:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
INteresting people to read on:
"Alexander Dugin (b. 1962) is one of the best-known writers and political commentators in post-Soviet Russia. In addition to the many books he has authored on political, philosophical and spiritual topics, he currently serves on the staff of Moscow State University, and is the intellectual leader of the Eurasia Movement. For more than a decade, he has also been an advisor to Vladimir Putin and others in the Kremlin on geopolitical matters, being a vocal advocate of a return of Russian power to the global stage, to act as a counterweight to American domination. "
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/motpol/alexander-dugin-and-the-rise-of-the-fourth-politic
http://katehon.com/authors
// question is not, if it is so, but how would You know when it is and what you do so it would not be able to become
// what have you investigated to make sure, to know, how is ... methods is so many... so many... different time scale and "dimensions" to perhaps, proper dimensions if You will. in mind, for sure, ideology and theory, is dimension it self by what to live, Christianity ()by our own definition) is dimension or is it not ?
"Alexander Dugin (b. 1962) is one of the best-known writers and political commentators in post-Soviet Russia. In addition to the many books he has authored on political, philosophical and spiritual topics, he currently serves on the staff of Moscow State University, and is the intellectual leader of the Eurasia Movement. For more than a decade, he has also been an advisor to Vladimir Putin and others in the Kremlin on geopolitical matters, being a vocal advocate of a return of Russian power to the global stage, to act as a counterweight to American domination. "
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/motpol/alexander-dugin-and-the-rise-of-the-fourth-politic
http://katehon.com/authors
// question is not, if it is so, but how would You know when it is and what you do so it would not be able to become
// what have you investigated to make sure, to know, how is ... methods is so many... so many... different time scale and "dimensions" to perhaps, proper dimensions if You will. in mind, for sure, ideology and theory, is dimension it self by what to live, Christianity ()by our own definition) is dimension or is it not ?
26 January 2018 23:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
26 January 2018 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
" who attempted to assassinate United States President George W. Bush and Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili by throwing a hand grenade at them on 10 May 2005 "
" He joined the Democratic Union for Revival party led by Aslan Abashidze in January 2004, but soon after left the organization's ranks. The Revival party was joined by Arutyunian in the same month Mikheil Saakashvili became president of Georgia, and had led Adjara in a crisis by refusing to obey the central government authorities. Saakashvili and his party were considered to be pro-United States, while Abashidze and his party were considered to be pro-Russia "
What a luck and protection form God:
"he grenade failed to detonate. Although original reports indicated that the grenade was not live, it was later revealed that it was. After Arutyunian pulled the pin and threw the grenade, it hit a girl, cushioning its impact. The red handkerchief remained wrapped around the grenade, and it prevented the striker lever from releasing"
"police raided Arutyunian's home where he lived with his mother on 20 July 2005. During an ensuing gunfight, Arutyunian killed the head of the Interior Ministry's counterintelligence department, Zurab Kvlividze. He then fled into the woods in the village of Vashlijvari on the outskirts of Tbilisi. After being wounded in the leg, he was captured by Georgia's anti-terror unit "
// who will go to mother place after these ind of acts..
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/stories/2006/january/grenade_attack011106
--
Some other picks:
"It goes without saying that the Russian politician will not go to Freudians. He is not likely to consult his lawyers either: deputy immunity protects the vice speaker of the Russian State Duma from any claims from the Office of the Prosecutor General. However, the above-mentioned statement from the Russian politician has caused an anti-Russian campaign in Kazakh press. It is a rather relevant issue, taking into consideration the fact that it is hard for Russia to maintain its influence in the countries of the former USSR. Just one interview may cause a lot more damage than George Soros, the USA and the EU altogethe
See more at http://www.pravdareport.com/world/ussr/10-02-2005/7721-zhirinovsky-0/ "
" He joined the Democratic Union for Revival party led by Aslan Abashidze in January 2004, but soon after left the organization's ranks. The Revival party was joined by Arutyunian in the same month Mikheil Saakashvili became president of Georgia, and had led Adjara in a crisis by refusing to obey the central government authorities. Saakashvili and his party were considered to be pro-United States, while Abashidze and his party were considered to be pro-Russia "
What a luck and protection form God:
"he grenade failed to detonate. Although original reports indicated that the grenade was not live, it was later revealed that it was. After Arutyunian pulled the pin and threw the grenade, it hit a girl, cushioning its impact. The red handkerchief remained wrapped around the grenade, and it prevented the striker lever from releasing"
"police raided Arutyunian's home where he lived with his mother on 20 July 2005. During an ensuing gunfight, Arutyunian killed the head of the Interior Ministry's counterintelligence department, Zurab Kvlividze. He then fled into the woods in the village of Vashlijvari on the outskirts of Tbilisi. After being wounded in the leg, he was captured by Georgia's anti-terror unit "
// who will go to mother place after these ind of acts..
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/stories/2006/january/grenade_attack011106
--
Some other picks:
"It goes without saying that the Russian politician will not go to Freudians. He is not likely to consult his lawyers either: deputy immunity protects the vice speaker of the Russian State Duma from any claims from the Office of the Prosecutor General. However, the above-mentioned statement from the Russian politician has caused an anti-Russian campaign in Kazakh press. It is a rather relevant issue, taking into consideration the fact that it is hard for Russia to maintain its influence in the countries of the former USSR. Just one interview may cause a lot more damage than George Soros, the USA and the EU altogethe
See more at http://www.pravdareport.com/world/ussr/10-02-2005/7721-zhirinovsky-0/ "
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/stories/2006/january/grenade_attack011106
26 January 2018 23:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but under former comment, they still not allow to post the video:
Nothings strange here, move along people
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More of the interesting CV from public opinion:
"Zhirinovsky has expressed admiration for the 1996 United States presidential election contender Pat Buchanan, referring positively to a comment in which Buchanan labeled the United States Congress "Israeli-occupied territory." Zhirinovsky said that both countries were "under occupation." and that "to survive, we could set aside places on U.S. and Russian territories to deport this small but troublesome tribe." Buchanan strongly rejected this endorsement, saying he would provide safe haven to persecuted minorities if Zhirinovsky were ever elected Russia's president, eliciting a harsh response by Zhirinovsky: "You soiled your pants as soon as you got my congratulations. Who are you afraid of: Zionists?"
Nothings strange here, move along people
----------
More of the interesting CV from public opinion:
"Zhirinovsky has expressed admiration for the 1996 United States presidential election contender Pat Buchanan, referring positively to a comment in which Buchanan labeled the United States Congress "Israeli-occupied territory." Zhirinovsky said that both countries were "under occupation." and that "to survive, we could set aside places on U.S. and Russian territories to deport this small but troublesome tribe." Buchanan strongly rejected this endorsement, saying he would provide safe haven to persecuted minorities if Zhirinovsky were ever elected Russia's president, eliciting a harsh response by Zhirinovsky: "You soiled your pants as soon as you got my congratulations. Who are you afraid of: Zionists?"
26 January 2018 22:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kolmas katse..
Video UR, for sharing:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10214076059632258/
Video UR, for sharing:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10214076059632258/
26 January 2018 22:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Vot mis video juhtis areenile, kus rääkis mis moodi (gravitatsiooni saab muuta ja kuidas), nad OMA presidendi valivad USA's, ja nagu öeldud sai..
Tausta, avalikku:
"Russian politician and leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia. He is fiercely nationalist and has been described as "a showman of Russian politics, blending populist and nationalist rhetoric, anti-Western invective and a brash, confrontational style". ] His views have been described as fascist"
"Although nominally part of the Russian opposition, he is widely seen as a servant of Kremlin policy, used to float radical opinions to test public reaction."
"His paternal grandfather was a wealthy industrialist from Kostopil, who owned the largest timber factory in (what is now) Ukraine and was head of the Jewish community."
"he worked as an agronomist in Tel Aviv. Zhirinovsky's father was a member of the right-wing nationalist Herut party in Israel, and died in 1983 when he was run over by a bus near Dizengoff Street in Tel Aviv " (RIP)
"1990 Zhirinovsky, along with Vladimir Bogachev, took initiatives which led to the founding of the Liberal Democratic Party, the second registered party in the Soviet Union and therefore the first officially sanctioned opposition party. According to the former CPSU Politburo member Alexander Nikolaevich Yakovlev, this party started as a joint project of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU) leadership and the KGB."
"Yakovlev wrote in his memoirs that KGB director Vladimir Kryuchkov presented the project of the puppet LDPR party at a meeting with Mikhail Gorbachev and informed him about the selection of the LDPR leader. According to Yakovlev, the name of the party was chosen by KGB General Philipp Bobkov. However, Bobkov said that he was against the creation of "Zubatov's pseudo-party under KGB control that would direct the interests and sentiments of certain social groups".
___
"Zhirinovsky's first political breakthrough came in June 1991 when he came third in Russia's first presidential election, gathering more than six million votes or 7.81%. Afterwards, the LDPR garnered a reputation as an ineffective vehicle for opposition against the government, and one that lacked either credibility or authenticity, particularly given Zhirinovsky's vocal support for the Soviet coup attempt of 1991. This view was further encouraged by rumors, denied by Zhirinovsky, that he was an agent of the KGB and that the LDPR was a farcical creation meant to either discredit or distract earnest opposition to the government."
Such impressions would last even as the Soviet Union was dissolved and the Russian Communist Party itself took an opposition role. In 1992 Zhirinovsky made contact with Jean-Marie Le Pen, leader at that time of France's Front National (FN). Eduard Limonov of the National-Bolshevik Party introduced the men to each other and the FN later “provided logistical support [to the LDPR], including computers and fax machines”. Zhirinovsky suggested establishing the:
International Centre of Right-wing Parties in Moscow and invited Le Pen to Moscow.
// got it?
" 1996, months before a presidential election, Zhirinovsky placed second in opinion polls, behind Communist Gennady Zyuganov and ahead of Boris Yeltsin." 2003 election seeing a LDPR vote share of 11.7%.
.:.
// Esimeste postitamistega ei lasknud postitadagi seda siia FB.. ei videot ega tekstigi hiljem.. eks näis nüüd : )
// ka teisel postitamisel ei lubanud video siia lisad,a veider..
Tausta, avalikku:
"Russian politician and leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia. He is fiercely nationalist and has been described as "a showman of Russian politics, blending populist and nationalist rhetoric, anti-Western invective and a brash, confrontational style". ] His views have been described as fascist"
"Although nominally part of the Russian opposition, he is widely seen as a servant of Kremlin policy, used to float radical opinions to test public reaction."
"His paternal grandfather was a wealthy industrialist from Kostopil, who owned the largest timber factory in (what is now) Ukraine and was head of the Jewish community."
"he worked as an agronomist in Tel Aviv. Zhirinovsky's father was a member of the right-wing nationalist Herut party in Israel, and died in 1983 when he was run over by a bus near Dizengoff Street in Tel Aviv " (RIP)
"1990 Zhirinovsky, along with Vladimir Bogachev, took initiatives which led to the founding of the Liberal Democratic Party, the second registered party in the Soviet Union and therefore the first officially sanctioned opposition party. According to the former CPSU Politburo member Alexander Nikolaevich Yakovlev, this party started as a joint project of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU) leadership and the KGB."
"Yakovlev wrote in his memoirs that KGB director Vladimir Kryuchkov presented the project of the puppet LDPR party at a meeting with Mikhail Gorbachev and informed him about the selection of the LDPR leader. According to Yakovlev, the name of the party was chosen by KGB General Philipp Bobkov. However, Bobkov said that he was against the creation of "Zubatov's pseudo-party under KGB control that would direct the interests and sentiments of certain social groups".
___
"Zhirinovsky's first political breakthrough came in June 1991 when he came third in Russia's first presidential election, gathering more than six million votes or 7.81%. Afterwards, the LDPR garnered a reputation as an ineffective vehicle for opposition against the government, and one that lacked either credibility or authenticity, particularly given Zhirinovsky's vocal support for the Soviet coup attempt of 1991. This view was further encouraged by rumors, denied by Zhirinovsky, that he was an agent of the KGB and that the LDPR was a farcical creation meant to either discredit or distract earnest opposition to the government."
Such impressions would last even as the Soviet Union was dissolved and the Russian Communist Party itself took an opposition role. In 1992 Zhirinovsky made contact with Jean-Marie Le Pen, leader at that time of France's Front National (FN). Eduard Limonov of the National-Bolshevik Party introduced the men to each other and the FN later “provided logistical support [to the LDPR], including computers and fax machines”. Zhirinovsky suggested establishing the:
International Centre of Right-wing Parties in Moscow and invited Le Pen to Moscow.
// got it?
" 1996, months before a presidential election, Zhirinovsky placed second in opinion polls, behind Communist Gennady Zyuganov and ahead of Boris Yeltsin." 2003 election seeing a LDPR vote share of 11.7%.
.:.
// Esimeste postitamistega ei lasknud postitadagi seda siia FB.. ei videot ega tekstigi hiljem.. eks näis nüüd : )
// ka teisel postitamisel ei lubanud video siia lisad,a veider..
26 January 2018 22:49
Margus Meigo commented on Marek Eerme's post.
Group: Põllu- ja aiasaaduste ost/müük
Kui Eestist ei leia, siis on Väga võimekad seenemüügi foorumeid ja portaale olemas, usaldusväärseid, IGAKS elujuhtumiks, kopeerin mitu linki siia, mis esimesena näpus:
Siin teine planeedi kuulsamaid seenemüügi foorumeid:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?terms=oyster
Otsing 2:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?forum%5B%5D=&words=Pleurotus+ostreatus&namebox=&replybox=&how=all&where=body&tosearch=both&newerval=&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=y&minwords=&maxwords=&limit=150&sort=r&way=d&showmain=1
See üks kuulsamatest foorumitest kus poodide kohta saab ka infot otsida ja küsida:
https://mycotopia.net/
Tellimis kohti otse ka mitmeid mis rahvusvahelised:
https://www.mushroomprints.com/worldwide-shipping/
Nendel ka võimekad kogused:
http://www.earthstongue.com/Mushroom-Spores
http://www.earthstongue.com/search?searchwords=oyster&search_searchbox=search
väga suur hulk erinevaid toiduseeni.
Üks vanemaid prof. müügikohti:
http://www.spores101.co/livecultures.html
Siin müüakse kallimalt kuid koos kasvatuskarpidega:
http://www.magic-mushrooms-shop.com/en/catalogsearch/result/?q=oyster
Eks õpetusi eelmainitud foorumites palju, kuidas lõpmatuseni eri moodustes seenekasvatust paljudada.https://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?terms=oyster
26 January 2018 22:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Eesti aladel hoogustus viinapõletamine pärast liitmist Venemaaga. 1765. aastal andis Katariina II välja ukaasi, mille kohaselt tohtisid viina valmistada "ainult aadlikud ja rohkem mitte keegi". Eesti mõisates oli juba 1799. aastaks 731 viinakööki (85%-l mõisatest). Aastas toodeti kuni 680 000 pange (8,2 miljonit liitrit). Viin müüdi Venemaa joogikohtades. Esimene eestikeelne õpetus viinapõletamiseks on teada aastast 1772 („Öppetus kuida wisi pölle viin tehhakse”. Friedrich Wilhelm v. Sivers. Põltsamaa. 1772, 8 lk – ei ole säilinud)."
26 January 2018 19:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
26 January 2018 08:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
venkude Gusli
Классическая музыка на гуслях!!! Canon in D (Pachelbel, Иоганн Пахельбель.) Кирилл Богомилов
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6q4GyN5-dQ
Классическая музыка на гуслях!!! Canon in D (Pachelbel, Иоганн Пахельбель.) Кирилл Богомилов
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6q4GyN5-dQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6q4GyN5-dQ
26 January 2018 02:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Keegi kandlemängiaid?
26 January 2018 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kandli versiooni otsin veel
Kannel ([ˈkɑnːel]) is an Estonian plucked string instrument (chordophone) belonging to the Baltic box zither family known as the Baltic psaltery along with Finnish kantele, Latvian kokles, Lithuanian kanklės, and Russian gusli. The Estonian kannel has a variety of traditional tunings. In Estonia, studying the kannel has made a resurgence after some years of decline.
Kannel ([ˈkɑnːel]) is an Estonian plucked string instrument (chordophone) belonging to the Baltic box zither family known as the Baltic psaltery along with Finnish kantele, Latvian kokles, Lithuanian kanklės, and Russian gusli. The Estonian kannel has a variety of traditional tunings. In Estonia, studying the kannel has made a resurgence after some years of decline.
26 January 2018 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just mõtlein, selle loo sooviks küll õppida nängida.. veel klaveri versioon, päris hea
Johann Pachelbel - Canon in D \\ Jacob's Piano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1elGqARTb1Q
1 tunine versioon kuid midagi suts liiga tervalt mingid klahvid tulevad suts.. usts..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tsiFrHM0q0
Johann Pachelbel - Canon in D \\ Jacob's Piano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1elGqARTb1Q
1 tunine versioon kuid midagi suts liiga tervalt mingid klahvid tulevad suts.. usts..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tsiFrHM0q0
26 January 2018 02:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
chello quartet also!
Canon in D by Pachelbel, Cello Quartet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELbZ5jBVoE0
Canon in D by Pachelbel, Cello Quartet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELbZ5jBVoE0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELbZ5jBVoE0
26 January 2018 02:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Rock versioon
Canon Rock - Jerry C cover by Laura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZgiNnGB8m4
Canon Rock - Jerry C cover by Laura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZgiNnGB8m4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZgiNnGB8m4
26 January 2018 02:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
klaver, piano
Rock Canon Piano Version after Japan Composer Prof.Takushi Koyama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD5YY7jPAnQ
Rock Canon Piano Version after Japan Composer Prof.Takushi Koyama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD5YY7jPAnQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD5YY7jPAnQ
26 January 2018 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
likes, that in flute, there is extra playfulness
flute and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL_2xunRS9Q
flute and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL_2xunRS9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL_2xunRS9Q
26 January 2018 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Rahulik pikem harbi klaveri versioon
Pachelbel's Canon In D | Relaxing Harp Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxueH1QaRMM
Pachelbel's Canon In D | Relaxing Harp Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxueH1QaRMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxueH1QaRMM
26 January 2018 02:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Johann Pachelbel - Canon in D - Flute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2za2IK47ms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2za2IK47ms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2za2IK47ms
26 January 2018 02:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Canon in D by Johann Pachelbel (Flute Violin Cello Trio)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guwl5G6Wr4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guwl5G6Wr4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guwl5G6Wr4Y
26 January 2018 02:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Flute and Guitar
// not the most prof. performance, but still
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7UH6m58eOU
// not the most prof. performance, but still
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7UH6m58eOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7UH6m58eOU
26 January 2018 02:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Flute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL_2xunRS9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL_2xunRS9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL_2xunRS9Q
26 January 2018 01:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in guitar
Canon in D (Pachelbel) played by Per-Olov Kindgren
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXC9tuumjiA
Canon in D (Pachelbel) played by Per-Olov Kindgren
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXC9tuumjiA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXC9tuumjiA
26 January 2018 01:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Here is piano version for the ones that get headache vith violin after sometime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNsgHMklBW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNsgHMklBW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNsgHMklBW0
26 January 2018 01:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mitte parimatest parim, kuid parimate parimate hulgas ikka sõnade ja tunnete, loo poolest
26 January 2018 01:43
Margus Meigo commented on Ch Shahid Iqbal's post.
Will keep in contact in hopes, with serious countryman
26 January 2018 01:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Seda kuula tunde ja tunde..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVn2YGvIv0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVn2YGvIv0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVn2YGvIv0w
26 January 2018 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eestlaste ajutine hingemeditsiiniline konditsiooni üks diagnoos-retsept
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH5BiQ7CSeU
//mitte siia teemasse otse puutuv, kuid ikka külgedelt seotud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH5BiQ7CSeU
//mitte siia teemasse otse puutuv, kuid ikka külgedelt seotud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH5BiQ7CSeU
26 January 2018 00:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid vb natuke on ka nii..//
"See maailm, mis elab sinus, mis sinuga ühte loodi,
on sama vana kui sina ja veidi su enda moodi.
See maailm sind peab kandma ja sina pead kandma maailma.
Ta on nii soe ja pehme, tal on kaks niisket silma.
Ja maailm enam ei mahu su sülle sooja ja varju.
Nii on see ikka olnud, miks siis sa ikka ei harju,
et kõike ei saagi võtta, et kõike ei saagi anda,
et vabadus on ja valu, mis tuleb sul endal kanda.
et vabadus on ja valu, mis tuleb sul endal kanda."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ9is8l8MaQ
"See maailm, mis elab sinus, mis sinuga ühte loodi,
on sama vana kui sina ja veidi su enda moodi.
See maailm sind peab kandma ja sina pead kandma maailma.
Ta on nii soe ja pehme, tal on kaks niisket silma.
Ja maailm enam ei mahu su sülle sooja ja varju.
Nii on see ikka olnud, miks siis sa ikka ei harju,
et kõike ei saagi võtta, et kõike ei saagi anda,
et vabadus on ja valu, mis tuleb sul endal kanda.
et vabadus on ja valu, mis tuleb sul endal kanda."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ9is8l8MaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ9is8l8MaQ
26 January 2018 00:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Heino Eller - symphonic poem "Koit" ("Dawn")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blvMl136Y4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blvMl136Y4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blvMl136Y4o
26 January 2018 00:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Heino Eller- Kodumaine viis
Heino Eller (7 March 1887 - 16 June 1970)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu_JIEGfNmE
Heino Eller (7 March 1887 - 16 June 1970)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu_JIEGfNmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu_JIEGfNmE
26 January 2018 00:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tähistaeva killuke lõikab ründepilve pooleks
olles tibatilluke end ma usaldan ta hooleks
Looja, võta tähed oma sülle
tiivad saades end ma kiilun kahe pilve vahele
Looja sinisilmi piilun vaatamata rahele
Ma valisin öise aja, et tulla su ligi
Ma valisin valjema kaja
ehk kuuled nüüd ometigi, ometigi
ometigi!
Sa valisid öise aja, et tulla mu ligi
Helendama, õpetama
helendama, õpetama mulle
armastust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hPLgnjPwWY
olles tibatilluke end ma usaldan ta hooleks
Looja, võta tähed oma sülle
tiivad saades end ma kiilun kahe pilve vahele
Looja sinisilmi piilun vaatamata rahele
Ma valisin öise aja, et tulla su ligi
Ma valisin valjema kaja
ehk kuuled nüüd ometigi, ometigi
ometigi!
Sa valisid öise aja, et tulla mu ligi
Helendama, õpetama
helendama, õpetama mulle
armastust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hPLgnjPwWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hPLgnjPwWY
26 January 2018 00:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kärt Johanson, seadnud Pärt Uusberg / eesti rahvaluule "Õhtu ilu"
Kammerkoor Head Ööd, Vend
Solistid: Sirlen Rekkor, Katre Pukk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOQK0inm9KQ
Kammerkoor Head Ööd, Vend
Solistid: Sirlen Rekkor, Katre Pukk
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26 January 2018 00:44
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Toomas Sirge justsellepärast need asjad mis räägin ongi tõesed
25 January 2018 23:07
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Toomas Sirge ei ma ei räägi neist ainetest, ma räägin neist teistest keelatud ainetest, mis JUmalapoolt meile pool kohustuseks antud,
räägin psühedeelsetest ainetest,
ja need muud ainetki, on targaks kasutuseks antud, loodud selleks milleks nad loodud kuid kui õpetust ei anta (meelega) siis ilmselge tulemus, kui koos muude olenditega neda kehasse igast asju pannakse hopis valedel arusaamadel.
Mis aineid sa mõtlesid muidu ?
Need asjad millest ma räägin, ikka ravivad aidsi ja narkomaaniat,
Teen veel testigi luterikirikule ükspäev, võtan 50 kodutut ja nad võtku 50 , ja nad tehku oma rituaale ja ma teen enda ravitsemise jumalataimede läbi ja vaatame, kellel on parem tulemus aasta pärast,
Muidugi, päris palve ja krisltliku tehnoloogia jõud saab inimesi veelgi kiirema hetkega võluväel korrastada ja puhastada, kuid kuid paljudel meist siin maal nii pühalikud olemused on, et sellega hakkama saada?
räägin psühedeelsetest ainetest,
ja need muud ainetki, on targaks kasutuseks antud, loodud selleks milleks nad loodud kuid kui õpetust ei anta (meelega) siis ilmselge tulemus, kui koos muude olenditega neda kehasse igast asju pannakse hopis valedel arusaamadel.
Mis aineid sa mõtlesid muidu ?
Need asjad millest ma räägin, ikka ravivad aidsi ja narkomaaniat,
Teen veel testigi luterikirikule ükspäev, võtan 50 kodutut ja nad võtku 50 , ja nad tehku oma rituaale ja ma teen enda ravitsemise jumalataimede läbi ja vaatame, kellel on parem tulemus aasta pärast,
Muidugi, päris palve ja krisltliku tehnoloogia jõud saab inimesi veelgi kiirema hetkega võluväel korrastada ja puhastada, kuid kuid paljudel meist siin maal nii pühalikud olemused on, et sellega hakkama saada?
25 January 2018 22:54
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
On vähe aktiivseid tarku kultuurseid Jumalainimesi, kes neist asjust arusaab nii varajastel ajutistel aegadel, kuid kui saadakse, siis Sina Toomas Sirge oled arvatvasti esirinnas nende hulgas
muidugi erinevad ained ka loodud erinevatele inimestele, see meil vaja selgeks ka õppida ja eelkõige noortele arusaadavaks teha, oelvat veel inimesi oelmas, kellel polevatki vaja ei ühtegi neist, sest neil kõik kalalid, arusaamad ja võimalused muidu ka olemas, kuid enamasti on see upsaksus ja teadmatus, kui öeldakse "ei tänan, mul pole vaja".
eriti müstilised need iniemsed ,kes ise meelemürke nagu tubakas ja alkohol võtavad, ja siis puhastusaineid kardavad paaniliselt.. eks need vaiud inimeses muidugi paanikasse satuvad, sest
.. sest siis iniemsne teadlikumaks saab ju enda olemisest.. ja vähem võimu võõrale viamule jääb sest inimene otse jumalale ja maale keskenduma hakkab
muidugi erinevad ained ka loodud erinevatele inimestele, see meil vaja selgeks ka õppida ja eelkõige noortele arusaadavaks teha, oelvat veel inimesi oelmas, kellel polevatki vaja ei ühtegi neist, sest neil kõik kalalid, arusaamad ja võimalused muidu ka olemas, kuid enamasti on see upsaksus ja teadmatus, kui öeldakse "ei tänan, mul pole vaja".
eriti müstilised need iniemsed ,kes ise meelemürke nagu tubakas ja alkohol võtavad, ja siis puhastusaineid kardavad paaniliselt.. eks need vaiud inimeses muidugi paanikasse satuvad, sest
.. sest siis iniemsne teadlikumaks saab ju enda olemisest.. ja vähem võimu võõrale viamule jääb sest inimene otse jumalale ja maale keskenduma hakkab
25 January 2018 22:48
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
vata asju, tema viljade järgi,
kuid pole vaja tõlgendada inimese olukordasi viljadeks, mille te inimesed ise inimestele tekitanud,
vaid tuleb vaadata soove, lahendusi, plaane .. ja need ka viljad mis aitavad arusaada.. ja tuleb vaadata veel mida tekitavad need keelatud ained ja mida tekitavad need lubatud ained.. ja mite mingi utoopiliste laboritestides ainult vaid reaalse elu, otseses mõõtmes, kui õigesti, õiges kontekstis kasutatud,
lisaks veel, need "keelatud" ained, jumal sedasi teinud, et nad ei ::
1) Ei tekita ületoosi
(mingit seisukorda kus vaja arstiabi, või olukorda kus kogematta valesti võttes satub inimene eluohtliku olukorda)
2) Võimatu saada tervisekahjustust
(üli raske, vähegi normaalse kasutuse korral, on ka neid kes leiba üle söövad)
3) Ei tekita sõltuvust mis füüsilist keha piinaks
(jah, igatsustarkuse ja selgemeelsuse, postiivse meelsuse järgi, seda ka sõltuvusena vahest tõlgendatakse.. kuid see suts teine)
Ometigi peaks olema ülilihtne...arusaada, aaaaaga ikka, hüpnoos on võimas, kuid küll me siin neid sidemeid veel saame loodud sedasi ,et kogu paat saab päästetud
VOOT kui veider, et seda uudistes ja politsei, terivsesaadetes ei kuule, et siiani, need "keelatud ained" on planeedi EDUKAIMAD lahendusi ja ravimeid "ravimatutest sõltuvustest" ja kliinilisest depresioonidest vabanemiseks,
lisaks veel tuhat muud häda, kuni kliiiniliste peavaludeni, ilma, et tervist sõrmeotsagagi kahjustaks, ja aju saab ka selgemaks.
Ja selliseid tõdesi ei räägita, väga aegalselt hädapärst siin sääl netis natuke räägitakse.. kuid räägitakse ka samas, kuidas need teadlased kes jällile sanaud, kolektiivselt excommunicatetakse, teadusuhtlusringist välja likvideeritakse lausa, kui neid asju torkinud ja avalikustada proovinud..
Ilmselge, ku ilangenud inglid siin maal, asutusi juhtimas veel, siis viimane asi mida nad soovivad, et inimsed otse looduse ja jumala olemusega ise suhtleks, ja otse juhiseid saaks, kuidas elama peaks ja tundma ja armastama
kuid pole vaja tõlgendada inimese olukordasi viljadeks, mille te inimesed ise inimestele tekitanud,
vaid tuleb vaadata soove, lahendusi, plaane .. ja need ka viljad mis aitavad arusaada.. ja tuleb vaadata veel mida tekitavad need keelatud ained ja mida tekitavad need lubatud ained.. ja mite mingi utoopiliste laboritestides ainult vaid reaalse elu, otseses mõõtmes, kui õigesti, õiges kontekstis kasutatud,
lisaks veel, need "keelatud" ained, jumal sedasi teinud, et nad ei ::
1) Ei tekita ületoosi
(mingit seisukorda kus vaja arstiabi, või olukorda kus kogematta valesti võttes satub inimene eluohtliku olukorda)
2) Võimatu saada tervisekahjustust
(üli raske, vähegi normaalse kasutuse korral, on ka neid kes leiba üle söövad)
3) Ei tekita sõltuvust mis füüsilist keha piinaks
(jah, igatsustarkuse ja selgemeelsuse, postiivse meelsuse järgi, seda ka sõltuvusena vahest tõlgendatakse.. kuid see suts teine)
Ometigi peaks olema ülilihtne...arusaada, aaaaaga ikka, hüpnoos on võimas, kuid küll me siin neid sidemeid veel saame loodud sedasi ,et kogu paat saab päästetud
VOOT kui veider, et seda uudistes ja politsei, terivsesaadetes ei kuule, et siiani, need "keelatud ained" on planeedi EDUKAIMAD lahendusi ja ravimeid "ravimatutest sõltuvustest" ja kliinilisest depresioonidest vabanemiseks,
lisaks veel tuhat muud häda, kuni kliiiniliste peavaludeni, ilma, et tervist sõrmeotsagagi kahjustaks, ja aju saab ka selgemaks.
Ja selliseid tõdesi ei räägita, väga aegalselt hädapärst siin sääl netis natuke räägitakse.. kuid räägitakse ka samas, kuidas need teadlased kes jällile sanaud, kolektiivselt excommunicatetakse, teadusuhtlusringist välja likvideeritakse lausa, kui neid asju torkinud ja avalikustada proovinud..
Ilmselge, ku ilangenud inglid siin maal, asutusi juhtimas veel, siis viimane asi mida nad soovivad, et inimsed otse looduse ja jumala olemusega ise suhtleks, ja otse juhiseid saaks, kuidas elama peaks ja tundma ja armastama
25 January 2018 22:36
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
lõpetuseks pole veel näinud, et viin ja suits inimestes palju meeleparandust tekitaks, ja neid kurjemaid tööriiste, siin ilmas "paratamatusena" võetakse.
Isegi pyhapäeval kirikus juuakse... ometigi, öeldud ju Nazariidigi palve andnud, et jumalale pühendatud, VIINAmarjagi süüa eip tohi
Isegi pyhapäeval kirikus juuakse... ometigi, öeldud ju Nazariidigi palve andnud, et jumalale pühendatud, VIINAmarjagi süüa eip tohi
25 January 2018 22:32
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Kui on taimed ja ained, mis inimese panevad ennast puhastama, palvetama, tülidest hoiduma, oma sõnadejärgi mõtlema, vanu asju meeldetuletama, austust tõstma mitu pügalat lisaks kõigele muule tervise parandusele, sellele tervise osale kahjuks pannakse rõhku, kuid see füüsilise tervise parandused ei tulene mitte niivõrd ainult füüsilisest ainest (sellepärast pole nad ka laboris seda selgeks saanud) vaid see tuleb selles meeleparandusest, mida need ained tekitavad inimestes,
kehalised parandused tekivad muudatustes mida need taimed läbi pühavaimu/jumalavaimu jumala-inglite - looduse, meis tekitab, pahad mõtted mida ta meie peast võtab ära ja head lahendused mis ta asemele annab koos austusega, see on see suurim paranduse tekitaja,
ja see on nii korduvalt tõestatud ja ise korduvalt nähtud, et siin pole isegi kõige väiksemat kahtlust,
ja eriti, kuna need kõige kurjemad org. alati nende asjade vastu on ja alati nende kohta väära infot jagavad ja alati ainult telekas väga harva esinevaid väärasi pilte node asjade kohta näitavad... see juba ise, peaks olema piisav tõde ja tõestus,
veneajal nagu saadi ju aru... et mille kohta valetatakse ja mida peidetakse, seda tuleb uurida... kuidas siis see elementaarne tõde nüüd tundub vanemal generatsioonil eriti kadunud olema.. .
kogu kgb ja olendite silmis ,eriti, need tiamed, ongi suurim saladus ja asi,mida iniemstest eemale hoitud, tuhandeid aastaid, et nad ise saaks jumalavahendajad olla ja hoida meie hingi ja kehasi vangis, ning neid siit maalt jupikaupa eemaldada...
nende tiamedega saab käia visiidil nii põrgus kui mujal, ja enamasti nad ise teavad mida meiega teha, et meie eluteed suunata,
lihtsalt asjad nii suured, et meie nõrgad inimpõlved ei suuda taluda ja tajuda häredas ühiskonas seda, mis tarkusekoormaks tekib,
sest ümberingi ju suurosa veel poel nendes arusaamades.. ja siis oled sellede surte arusaamdega ,mida jumal soovib ja ümberingi nagu hypnoosi all käivad iniemsed, naertavad ja panevad ennast uskuma, et need asjad lihtsalt kellegi unistused utoopilised millest mõni seenesööja räägib,
tegelikult tuelks need erilised iniemsed kes julgevad ise sarvikutele vastu minna, surmasi läbi teha ja elusi , teiste omasi, läbi nende hinge näha.. neid tuleks kiriku kaitse ja toea alla võttta, ning neid aidata joonel hoida, nendest imeda kõike tarkust mida nad siia ilma toma on loodud, aidata puhastada neid tarkusi... aga .. selleasemel.. ka kriikud lipsumeeste ja Rooma impeeriumi võimuall endiselt... ja kuuletuvad mitte mõistuse-südame viad hoopis mingite vanade sepitsuste hääli... ja üksikute ussitajate hurjutusi...
on olemas mudugi ka mustmaagia taimed, ja nõiaained.. kuid need omakorda, hoopis midagi muud ja enmasti rituaalidega seotud, ... kanaldus ka selle kohta, kuid mul üks eratoimetamine, lausa päris eratoimetamine praegu poooleni..
kehalised parandused tekivad muudatustes mida need taimed läbi pühavaimu/jumalavaimu jumala-inglite - looduse, meis tekitab, pahad mõtted mida ta meie peast võtab ära ja head lahendused mis ta asemele annab koos austusega, see on see suurim paranduse tekitaja,
ja see on nii korduvalt tõestatud ja ise korduvalt nähtud, et siin pole isegi kõige väiksemat kahtlust,
ja eriti, kuna need kõige kurjemad org. alati nende asjade vastu on ja alati nende kohta väära infot jagavad ja alati ainult telekas väga harva esinevaid väärasi pilte node asjade kohta näitavad... see juba ise, peaks olema piisav tõde ja tõestus,
veneajal nagu saadi ju aru... et mille kohta valetatakse ja mida peidetakse, seda tuleb uurida... kuidas siis see elementaarne tõde nüüd tundub vanemal generatsioonil eriti kadunud olema.. .
kogu kgb ja olendite silmis ,eriti, need tiamed, ongi suurim saladus ja asi,mida iniemstest eemale hoitud, tuhandeid aastaid, et nad ise saaks jumalavahendajad olla ja hoida meie hingi ja kehasi vangis, ning neid siit maalt jupikaupa eemaldada...
nende tiamedega saab käia visiidil nii põrgus kui mujal, ja enamasti nad ise teavad mida meiega teha, et meie eluteed suunata,
lihtsalt asjad nii suured, et meie nõrgad inimpõlved ei suuda taluda ja tajuda häredas ühiskonas seda, mis tarkusekoormaks tekib,
sest ümberingi ju suurosa veel poel nendes arusaamades.. ja siis oled sellede surte arusaamdega ,mida jumal soovib ja ümberingi nagu hypnoosi all käivad iniemsed, naertavad ja panevad ennast uskuma, et need asjad lihtsalt kellegi unistused utoopilised millest mõni seenesööja räägib,
tegelikult tuelks need erilised iniemsed kes julgevad ise sarvikutele vastu minna, surmasi läbi teha ja elusi , teiste omasi, läbi nende hinge näha.. neid tuleks kiriku kaitse ja toea alla võttta, ning neid aidata joonel hoida, nendest imeda kõike tarkust mida nad siia ilma toma on loodud, aidata puhastada neid tarkusi... aga .. selleasemel.. ka kriikud lipsumeeste ja Rooma impeeriumi võimuall endiselt... ja kuuletuvad mitte mõistuse-südame viad hoopis mingite vanade sepitsuste hääli... ja üksikute ussitajate hurjutusi...
on olemas mudugi ka mustmaagia taimed, ja nõiaained.. kuid need omakorda, hoopis midagi muud ja enmasti rituaalidega seotud, ... kanaldus ka selle kohta, kuid mul üks eratoimetamine, lausa päris eratoimetamine praegu poooleni..
25 January 2018 22:30
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
kanpi alternatiiv nimi on ladina ameerika maades tuntud kui : MARI / MARIA (Marijuana)
ja otse, selles mõtes, juba iidsest ajast.
Indiaanlastegi vana ütlus: "Valged räägivad ja kirjutavad Jeesusest, meie kohtame Jeesusega / Viime teid Jeesusega kokku"
Tuleb mõelda, mis nad selleaall mõtlevad, pole neil ju kirikuid suuri
ja otse, selles mõtes, juba iidsest ajast.
Indiaanlastegi vana ütlus: "Valged räägivad ja kirjutavad Jeesusest, meie kohtame Jeesusega / Viime teid Jeesusega kokku"
Tuleb mõelda, mis nad selleaall mõtlevad, pole neil ju kirikuid suuri
25 January 2018 22:20
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
kuid need tööriistad, saavad praeguse vaatluse ja arusaama järgi, turvalist ja õiget kasutust, ainult kristliku-maausu kontektstis
25 January 2018 22:17
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
ega siis ilmaaegu ei pandud nime "Jumalatoit" noode seentegi jaoks
25 January 2018 22:17
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Olles maiselt täie südamega kristluse poolt ja juutidegi, võin öelda, et see on väike kübekene, võrreldes šamanismi sisu ja haardega, üksasi on lugeda kujutluspilte nendest olenditest, maailma ehitamistest ja inglitest, hoopis teineasi on nendega otse koostööd teadlikult teha, nende tööd oma silmaga näha, erinevates aegades ja mõõtmetes väikseimad kui väikseim osa ja suurimad kui suurim summa
25 January 2018 22:16
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Ega kanepil ei olegi mingit sesot kunagi olnud ega saa olema narkomaaniaga, kui siis ehk narkomaania ravis, saab kanepit kasutada.
Need on kurjas sarvikud kes väga ülbelt ja ebateaduslikult on sidunud kanepi narkootikumidega, kuid igaüks kes poolesilmagagi vaadanud psühedeelsete ainete omadusi saab aru, et neid ei saa kuidagi narkootikumideks ega meelemürkideks nimetada,
Need on kurjas sarvikud kes väga ülbelt ja ebateaduslikult on sidunud kanepi narkootikumidega, kuid igaüks kes poolesilmagagi vaadanud psühedeelsete ainete omadusi saab aru, et neid ei saa kuidagi narkootikumideks ega meelemürkideks nimetada,
25 January 2018 22:14
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Tänud vastamisest
Meelis Vesi siis pole imestada midagi, et siis suhted Jumalaga on nagu on25 January 2018 20:23
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
kas süda saab ka ümberlõigata,25 January 2018 20:12
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Ütle siis korra veel, MILLEKS Jumalal seda vaja on, et Kristlased, Eestlased ja Juudid hingamispäeva peavad, oled selle juba teada saanud?25 January 2018 20:10
Margus Meigo replied to Alar Poder's comment.
sama siin, tasuta taevalinnud veel ei leinda
25 January 2018 08:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kus Valgus / Где конец, где начало (H. Vaikmaa – I. Lember / Х.Вайкмаа-И.Лембер)
Minut 10
Kus on lõpp ja kus on algus,
kus on pimedus, kus valgus.
Mis on sõprus, mis on vaen,
mis on vargus, mis on laen.
Mis on särav, mis on tuhm,
kes on tark ja kes on juhm.
Mis on halb ja mis on hea,
kellel õnne sellel veab.
Mis on rõõm ja mis on piin,
kõik näib suhteline siin.
Mis on võlts ja mis on eht,
süütu ainult puhas leht.
https://youtu.be/mpBka6k35Ws?t=634
Minut 10
Kus on lõpp ja kus on algus,
kus on pimedus, kus valgus.
Mis on sõprus, mis on vaen,
mis on vargus, mis on laen.
Mis on särav, mis on tuhm,
kes on tark ja kes on juhm.
Mis on halb ja mis on hea,
kellel õnne sellel veab.
Mis on rõõm ja mis on piin,
kõik näib suhteline siin.
Mis on võlts ja mis on eht,
süütu ainult puhas leht.
https://youtu.be/mpBka6k35Ws?t=634
https://youtu.be/mpBka6k35Ws?t=634
25 January 2018 08:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Psychic archaeology
Luke, D. (2015). Psychic archaeology. In Cardin, M. (Ed.), Ghosts, spirits, and psychics: The paranormal from alchemy to zombies (pp.241-242). Westport, CT: ABC-CLIO
https://www.academia.edu/18298035/Psychic_archaeology
Luke, D. (2015). Psychic archaeology. In Cardin, M. (Ed.), Ghosts, spirits, and psychics: The paranormal from alchemy to zombies (pp.241-242). Westport, CT: ABC-CLIO
https://www.academia.edu/18298035/Psychic_archaeology
https://www.academia.edu/18298035/Psychic_archaeology
25 January 2018 06:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
DMT research from 1956 to the end of time
Gallimore, A., & Luke, D. (2015). DMT research from 1956 to the end of time. In D. King, D. Luke, B. Sessa, C. Adams and A. Tollen (Eds), Neurotransmissions: Psychedelic essays from Breaking Convention (pp.291-316). London: Strange Attractor Press. From a representative sample of a suitably psychedelic crowd, you’d be hard pressed to find someone who couldn’t tell you all about Albert Hofmann’s enchanted bicycle ride after wallowing what turned out to be a massive dose of LSD. The world’s first acid trip (Hofmann, 1980) has since become a cherished piece of psychedelic folklore. Far fewer, however, could tell you much about the world’s first DMT (N,N-dimethyltryptamine) trip. Although less memorable than Hofmann’s story, it was no less important. The folklore would come later and reveal itself to be far weirder than anyone could have predicted. A DMT trip is certainly one of the most bizarre experiences a human can undergo and, although six decades have passed since the very first DMT trip, the experience continues to confound and remains fertile ground for speculation regarding its significance and meaning.
https://www.academia.edu/12936124/DMT_research_from_1956_to_the_end_of_time
Gallimore, A., & Luke, D. (2015). DMT research from 1956 to the end of time. In D. King, D. Luke, B. Sessa, C. Adams and A. Tollen (Eds), Neurotransmissions: Psychedelic essays from Breaking Convention (pp.291-316). London: Strange Attractor Press. From a representative sample of a suitably psychedelic crowd, you’d be hard pressed to find someone who couldn’t tell you all about Albert Hofmann’s enchanted bicycle ride after wallowing what turned out to be a massive dose of LSD. The world’s first acid trip (Hofmann, 1980) has since become a cherished piece of psychedelic folklore. Far fewer, however, could tell you much about the world’s first DMT (N,N-dimethyltryptamine) trip. Although less memorable than Hofmann’s story, it was no less important. The folklore would come later and reveal itself to be far weirder than anyone could have predicted. A DMT trip is certainly one of the most bizarre experiences a human can undergo and, although six decades have passed since the very first DMT trip, the experience continues to confound and remains fertile ground for speculation regarding its significance and meaning.
https://www.academia.edu/12936124/DMT_research_from_1956_to_the_end_of_time
https://www.academia.edu/12936124/DMT_research_from_1956_to_the_end_of_time
25 January 2018 06:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Psychic dreams: Evidence, transformational process and magical thinking
Luke, D. (2016). Psychic dreams: Evidence, transformational process and magical thinking. In M. Schroll (Ed.), Transpersonal ecosophy, Vol1: Theory, methods, and clinical assessments (pp. 281-288). Llanrhaeadr-ym-Mochnant, UK: Psychoid Books.
https://www.academia.edu/27301695/Psychic_dreams_Evidence_transformational_process_and_magical_thinking
Luke, D. (2016). Psychic dreams: Evidence, transformational process and magical thinking. In M. Schroll (Ed.), Transpersonal ecosophy, Vol1: Theory, methods, and clinical assessments (pp. 281-288). Llanrhaeadr-ym-Mochnant, UK: Psychoid Books.
https://www.academia.edu/27301695/Psychic_dreams_Evidence_transformational_process_and_magical_thinking
https://www.academia.edu/27301695/Psychic_dreams_Evidence_transformational_process_and_magical_thinking
25 January 2018 06:46
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The relationship between local geomagnetic activity and psychic awareness
Roney-Dougal, S., Ryan, A., & Luke, D. (2014). The relationship between local geomagnetic activity and psychic awareness. Journal of Parapsychology, 78(2), 235-254.
https://www.academia.edu/9942894/The_relationship_between_local_geomagnetic_activity_and_psychic_awareness
Roney-Dougal, S., Ryan, A., & Luke, D. (2014). The relationship between local geomagnetic activity and psychic awareness. Journal of Parapsychology, 78(2), 235-254.
https://www.academia.edu/9942894/The_relationship_between_local_geomagnetic_activity_and_psychic_awareness
https://www.academia.edu/9942894/The_relationship_between_local_geomagnetic_activity_and_psychic_awareness
25 January 2018 06:45
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The relationship between local geomagnetic activity, meditation and psi. Part I: Literature review and theoretical model
by David Luke and Adrian Ryan
Roney-Dougal, S. M., Ryan, A., & Luke, D. (2013). The relationship between local geomagnetic activity, meditation and psi. Part I: Literature review and theoretical model. Journal of the Society for Psychical Research, 77 (2), 72-88. A four-year longitudinal research programme investigating the effect of local geomagnetic field fluctuations and meditation on receptive psi has been initiated at a Tibetan monastery in Scotland. This Note is intended to give the theoretical background for this research programme. Research findings from several disparate disciplines have been synthesized into a model that can be used to understand associations of both environmental variables and a person’s state of consciousness with an individual’s performance in controlled psi tests. Initially a description of the evidence for both geomagnetic activity (GMA) and meditation relationships with psi is presented. Since GMA exhibits variation by season, and possibly lunar phase, relationships between these cycles and psi are also considered. A theory that connects these variables is then presented, drawing on evidence that GMA may affect the function of the pineal gland within the human brain, and research that suggests that the pineal gland may produce psi-conducive neurochemicals.
https://www.academia.edu/8728002/The_relationship_between_local_geomagnetic_activity_meditation_and_psi._Part_I_Literature_review_and_theoretical_model
by David Luke and Adrian Ryan
Roney-Dougal, S. M., Ryan, A., & Luke, D. (2013). The relationship between local geomagnetic activity, meditation and psi. Part I: Literature review and theoretical model. Journal of the Society for Psychical Research, 77 (2), 72-88. A four-year longitudinal research programme investigating the effect of local geomagnetic field fluctuations and meditation on receptive psi has been initiated at a Tibetan monastery in Scotland. This Note is intended to give the theoretical background for this research programme. Research findings from several disparate disciplines have been synthesized into a model that can be used to understand associations of both environmental variables and a person’s state of consciousness with an individual’s performance in controlled psi tests. Initially a description of the evidence for both geomagnetic activity (GMA) and meditation relationships with psi is presented. Since GMA exhibits variation by season, and possibly lunar phase, relationships between these cycles and psi are also considered. A theory that connects these variables is then presented, drawing on evidence that GMA may affect the function of the pineal gland within the human brain, and research that suggests that the pineal gland may produce psi-conducive neurochemicals.
https://www.academia.edu/8728002/The_relationship_between_local_geomagnetic_activity_meditation_and_psi._Part_I_Literature_review_and_theoretical_model
https://www.academia.edu/8728002/The_relationship_between_local_geomagnetic_activity_meditation_and_psi._Part_I_Literature_review_and_theoretical_model
25 January 2018 06:43
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Ecopsychology and the psychedelic experience
European Journal of Ecopsychology
https://www.academia.edu/5391203/Ecopsychology_and_the_psychedelic_experience
European Journal of Ecopsychology
https://www.academia.edu/5391203/Ecopsychology_and_the_psychedelic_experience
https://www.academia.edu/5391203/Ecopsychology_and_the_psychedelic_experience
25 January 2018 06:42
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A placebo-controlled investigation of synaesthesia-like experiences under LSD
Terhune, D. B., Luke, D. P., Kaelen, M., Bolstridge, M., Feilding, A., Nutt, D., Carhart-Harris, R., Ward, J. (2016). A placebo-controlled investigation of synaesthesia-like experiences under LSD. Neuropsychologia, 88, 28-34. http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.neuropsychologia.2016.04.005
https://www.academia.edu/24232277/A_placebo-controlled_investigation_of_synaesthesia-like_experiences_under_LSD
Terhune, D. B., Luke, D. P., Kaelen, M., Bolstridge, M., Feilding, A., Nutt, D., Carhart-Harris, R., Ward, J. (2016). A placebo-controlled investigation of synaesthesia-like experiences under LSD. Neuropsychologia, 88, 28-34. http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.neuropsychologia.2016.04.005
https://www.academia.edu/24232277/A_placebo-controlled_investigation_of_synaesthesia-like_experiences_under_LSD
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.neuropsychologia.2016.04.005
25 January 2018 06:41
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Anomalistic Psychology (2012)
by David Luke and Chris French
How can psychologists explain strange experiences such as hallucinations or unusual beliefs in ghosts and angels? This compelling introduction aims to uncover how and why such beliefs occur, exploring explanations based on different psychological models, and evaluating the scientific basis of parapsychology and the challenges that researchers face. http://www.palgrave.com/products/title.aspx?pid=504210
by David Luke and Chris French
How can psychologists explain strange experiences such as hallucinations or unusual beliefs in ghosts and angels? This compelling introduction aims to uncover how and why such beliefs occur, exploring explanations based on different psychological models, and evaluating the scientific basis of parapsychology and the challenges that researchers face. http://www.palgrave.com/products/title.aspx?pid=504210
25 January 2018 06:40
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Breaking Convention: Essays in Psychedelic Consciousness (2013)
by David Luke, Anna Waldstein, and Ben Sessa
A multidimensional trip into psychedelic consciousness, science and culture, covering topics ranging from Neolithic worldviews, prehistoric rituals and Amerindian epistemology to weaponised hallucinogens, religious freedoms, trip-lit and the death of the '60s dream. This collection of 22 original essays transects a wide range of disciplines to offer empirical, mystical, imaginal, hermeneutic, queer, phenomenological and parapsychological perspectives on the exploration of psychedelics, taking in scientific debates on MDMA, manifestos, policy challenges, anaesthetic revelations and messages from the herbs along the way.
by David Luke, Anna Waldstein, and Ben Sessa
A multidimensional trip into psychedelic consciousness, science and culture, covering topics ranging from Neolithic worldviews, prehistoric rituals and Amerindian epistemology to weaponised hallucinogens, religious freedoms, trip-lit and the death of the '60s dream. This collection of 22 original essays transects a wide range of disciplines to offer empirical, mystical, imaginal, hermeneutic, queer, phenomenological and parapsychological perspectives on the exploration of psychedelics, taking in scientific debates on MDMA, manifestos, policy challenges, anaesthetic revelations and messages from the herbs along the way.
25 January 2018 06:39
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Ecopsychology and the Psychedelic Experience (2013)
From ecodelic triplit, the peyoteros’ sense of place, interspecies communication and animistic healing to ecocentric entheogenic rituals, psychedelic bioregionalism, biogenetic structuralist ecopsychology and transpersonal ecosophy – this special issue of the EJE explores the verdant intersection between neurobiology and botany, shamanism and animism, and psychology and ecology, fusing mind with Nature in a boiling cauldron full of entheogenic insight.
From ecodelic triplit, the peyoteros’ sense of place, interspecies communication and animistic healing to ecocentric entheogenic rituals, psychedelic bioregionalism, biogenetic structuralist ecopsychology and transpersonal ecosophy – this special issue of the EJE explores the verdant intersection between neurobiology and botany, shamanism and animism, and psychology and ecology, fusing mind with Nature in a boiling cauldron full of entheogenic insight.
25 January 2018 06:39
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Talking with the Spirits: Enthnographies from Between the Worlds (2014)
by David Luke and Jack Hunter
Talking With the Spirits is a cross-cultural survey of contemporary spirit mediumship. The diverse contributions to this volume cover a wide-range of ethnographic contexts, from Spiritualist séances in the United Kingdom to self-mortification rituals in Singapore and Taiwan, from psychedelic spirit incorporation in the Amazonian rainforest, to psychic readings in online social spaces, and more. By taking a broad perspective the book highlights both the variety of culturally specific manifestations of spirit communication, and key cross-cultural features suggestive of underlying core-processes and experiences. Rather than attempting to reduce or dismiss such experiences, the authors featured in this collection take the experiences of their informants seriously and explore their effects at personal, social and cultural levels
by David Luke and Jack Hunter
Talking With the Spirits is a cross-cultural survey of contemporary spirit mediumship. The diverse contributions to this volume cover a wide-range of ethnographic contexts, from Spiritualist séances in the United Kingdom to self-mortification rituals in Singapore and Taiwan, from psychedelic spirit incorporation in the Amazonian rainforest, to psychic readings in online social spaces, and more. By taking a broad perspective the book highlights both the variety of culturally specific manifestations of spirit communication, and key cross-cultural features suggestive of underlying core-processes and experiences. Rather than attempting to reduce or dismiss such experiences, the authors featured in this collection take the experiences of their informants seriously and explore their effects at personal, social and cultural levels
25 January 2018 06:39
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Neurotransmissions: Essays on psychedelics from Breaking Convention (2015)
by David Luke, Ben Sessa, and Cameron Adams
King, D., Luke, D., Sessa, B., Adams, C., & Tollan, A. (2015). Neurotransmissions: Essays on psychedelics from Breaking Convention. London: Strange Attractor Press. The UK's largest conference on psychedelic consciousness, Breaking Convention, debuted at the University of Kent in 2011 to an audience of 500 delegates. The three-day event hosted eighty talks, in addition to workshops, music and psychedelic cinema. Breaking Convention returned two years later at the University of Greenwich with twice the number of presenters, and with tickets sold in forty countries. This anthology represents some of the most thought-provoking ideas addressed at Breaking Convention 2013. Neurotransmissions offers a selection of essays on psychedelic consciousness spanning the sciences and humanities, from philosophy and neuroscience though chemical models of action into clinical uses, with a special emphasis on MDMA. Cross-cultural approaches explore the use of psychedelics in New Guinea, central and south America, British free festivals, electronic music and backwards in time to the ancient civilizations of India and Rome. The journey ends with an exploration of the role of psychedelics in artistic expression, spirituality and death.
by David Luke, Ben Sessa, and Cameron Adams
King, D., Luke, D., Sessa, B., Adams, C., & Tollan, A. (2015). Neurotransmissions: Essays on psychedelics from Breaking Convention. London: Strange Attractor Press. The UK's largest conference on psychedelic consciousness, Breaking Convention, debuted at the University of Kent in 2011 to an audience of 500 delegates. The three-day event hosted eighty talks, in addition to workshops, music and psychedelic cinema. Breaking Convention returned two years later at the University of Greenwich with twice the number of presenters, and with tickets sold in forty countries. This anthology represents some of the most thought-provoking ideas addressed at Breaking Convention 2013. Neurotransmissions offers a selection of essays on psychedelic consciousness spanning the sciences and humanities, from philosophy and neuroscience though chemical models of action into clinical uses, with a special emphasis on MDMA. Cross-cultural approaches explore the use of psychedelics in New Guinea, central and south America, British free festivals, electronic music and backwards in time to the ancient civilizations of India and Rome. The journey ends with an exploration of the role of psychedelics in artistic expression, spirituality and death.
25 January 2018 06:38
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Otherworlds: Psychedelics and Exceptional Human Experience (2017)
Luke, D. (2017). Otherworlds: Psychedelics and exceptional human experience. Muswell Hill Press: London. A psychonautic scientific trip to the weirdest outposts of the psychedelic terrain, inhaling anything and everything relevant from psychology, psychiatry, parapsychology, anthropology, neuroscience, ethnobotany, ethnopharmacology, biochemistry, religious studies, cultural history, shamanism and the occult along the way. Staring the strange straight in the third eye this eclectic collection of otherworldly entheogenic research delivers a comprehensive and yet ragtaglledy scientific exploration of syanaesthesia, extra-dimensional percepts, inter-species communication, eco-consciousness, mediumship, possession, entity encounters, near-death and out-of-body experiences, psi, alien abduction experiences and lycanthropy. Essentially, its everything you ever wanted to know about weird psychedelic experiences, but were too afraid to ask… https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1908995149 “Emphasizing parapsychological aspects of the psychedelic experience, Luke’s new book fills in a fascinating and previously neglected lacuna in the burgeoning field of human studies with these compounds. ” – Rick Strassman, PhD “A psychedelic Indiana Jones. ” – Matt Colborn, PhD “David Luke’s delightful one-liner about his book is that it’s ‘about weird people in weird places taking weird substances doing weird things and, importantly, having weird experiences’ . . . On reflection, it’s much more profound than that . . . So weird reader, forge ahead without fear. ” – Dean Radin, PhD “In his fascinating book David plunges into this controversial topic and gives the backstory, the front story, and possible ways forward to bring paranormal and psychedelic research together, and further our understanding of both. ” – Dennis J. McKenna, PhD “A remarkable collection and a necessary one. This body of research illuminates aspects of psychedelic experiences usually obscured or denied in the medical and clinical research and sensationalized in the popular press. ” – James Fadiman, PhD “A real Dr Gonzo. ” – Will Self Otherworlds: Psychedelics and Exceptional Human Experience CONTENTS Acknowledgements Foreword – Dr Dean Radin - Blasting Open the Doors of Perception Preface - Exceptional Psychedelic Experience - Otherworld Cartographies - A Strange Journey on a Crooked Path SECTION 1: Explorations of Exceptional Entheogen Experiences 1: Notes on Getting Cactus Lodged in Your Reducing Valve: San Pedro and Psychic Abilities - Cactus of the Four Winds - Plant Allies and Plant Alkaloids - Artificial Paradises or Natural Chemical Utopias? - Cleansing the Doors of (Extrasensory) Perception - Putting the Psi Back into Psychedelics - Uncorking the Genie's Bottle - Putting the Cork Back in the Bottle 2. Psychedelic Possession: The Growing Incorporation of Incorporation into Ayahuasca Use - The Growing Incorporation of Incorporation in Ayahuasca Use - The Prepossessing Power of Possession - Psychedelic Possession Outside of Umbandaime and Barquinha - Any Body for Anybody: Shape Sharing or Shape Shifting? - Psychedelic Possession Outside of Shamanism, and Inside Ordinary People - So Why is Umbandaime on the Rise? - Shamanic… or Individualistic, Pluralistic, Consumerist and Technologized? - Synthesis and Analysis - Postscript: Flying High with Goose and Crow 3. The Induction of Synaesthesia with Chemical Agents: A Systematic Review (with Devin Terhune) - Methods - Results - Discussion - Postscript: A Placebo-Controlled LSD-induced Synaesthesia Experiment 4. Rock Art or Rorschach: Is There More to Entoptics Than Meets the Eye? - Entoptics as Hallucinations and Projections: Both, Either, or Neither? - Multidimensional Form Constants - The Extra Dimensions of Cyberdelia - Turning a Blind Eye to Entoptic Phenomena - Omni-directional Perception - Paranormal Visual Perception - Conclusions: Cleansing the Doors of Misperception - Postscript: Hurling Algebra at the Hard Problem of Consciousness to Obscure Absurd Infinite Regress 5. Discarnate Entities and Dimethyltryptamine (DMT): Psychopharmacology, Phenomenology and Ontology - History of DMT Biochemistry - The Speculated Psychopharmacology of DMT, its Related Compounds and the Pineal Gland - Neurochemical Action of DMT - Phenomenology of the DMT Experience - Mental Imagery - DMT and Veridical Visions - Phenomenological Cartography of the DMT World - Discarnate Entities - Ontology of DMT Beings 6. Disembodied Eyes Revisited: An Investigation into the Ontology of Entheogenic Entity Encounters - A Brief Glance at the Truly Forbidden - Snake Eyes - Sentient Entities - Postscript: More Fishy Than the Greenwich Pie n Eel Shop 7. Psychedelics and Species Connectedness - Turning Topiary - Ecodelia - Shamanism, Animism and Animaphany - Interspecies Communication SECTION 2: Do Psychedelics Like Psilocybin Really Cause Psi? 8. Psychoactive Substances and Paranormal Phenomena Review 9. Psychedelic/Neurochemical Models of Paranormal Experience - Brain as Filter - β-Carbolines, Tryptamines and Psi - DMT, Near-Death and Other Exceptional Experiences - Ketamine and NDEs - Dopamine and Paranormal Beliefs and Experiences - Overview of Psychedelic/Neurochemical Models of Paranormal Experience 10. Field Reports of Psychedelic Paranormal Phenomena - Anthropological and Historical Reports - Personal Views and Experiences - Clinical Reports - Evaluation of Field Reports 11. Surveys of Psychedelic Paranormal Beliefs and Experiences - Surveys of Belief in the Paranormal - Surveys of Paranormal Experiences - Surveys and Out-of-body Experiences - Summary of Survey Research 12. Experimental Psychedelic ESP Research - Forced Choice Designs - Free Response Psychometry (Object Reading) Experiments - Other Free Response Clairvoyance Experiments - Free Response Telepathy Experiments - Summary of Experimental Research 13. Methodological Critique of Experimental ESP Research 14. General Summary and Conclusions on Psychedelic Parapsychological Research Afterword: Pulling Magicians out of a Rabbit Hole References Index
Luke, D. (2017). Otherworlds: Psychedelics and exceptional human experience. Muswell Hill Press: London. A psychonautic scientific trip to the weirdest outposts of the psychedelic terrain, inhaling anything and everything relevant from psychology, psychiatry, parapsychology, anthropology, neuroscience, ethnobotany, ethnopharmacology, biochemistry, religious studies, cultural history, shamanism and the occult along the way. Staring the strange straight in the third eye this eclectic collection of otherworldly entheogenic research delivers a comprehensive and yet ragtaglledy scientific exploration of syanaesthesia, extra-dimensional percepts, inter-species communication, eco-consciousness, mediumship, possession, entity encounters, near-death and out-of-body experiences, psi, alien abduction experiences and lycanthropy. Essentially, its everything you ever wanted to know about weird psychedelic experiences, but were too afraid to ask… https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1908995149 “Emphasizing parapsychological aspects of the psychedelic experience, Luke’s new book fills in a fascinating and previously neglected lacuna in the burgeoning field of human studies with these compounds. ” – Rick Strassman, PhD “A psychedelic Indiana Jones. ” – Matt Colborn, PhD “David Luke’s delightful one-liner about his book is that it’s ‘about weird people in weird places taking weird substances doing weird things and, importantly, having weird experiences’ . . . On reflection, it’s much more profound than that . . . So weird reader, forge ahead without fear. ” – Dean Radin, PhD “In his fascinating book David plunges into this controversial topic and gives the backstory, the front story, and possible ways forward to bring paranormal and psychedelic research together, and further our understanding of both. ” – Dennis J. McKenna, PhD “A remarkable collection and a necessary one. This body of research illuminates aspects of psychedelic experiences usually obscured or denied in the medical and clinical research and sensationalized in the popular press. ” – James Fadiman, PhD “A real Dr Gonzo. ” – Will Self Otherworlds: Psychedelics and Exceptional Human Experience CONTENTS Acknowledgements Foreword – Dr Dean Radin - Blasting Open the Doors of Perception Preface - Exceptional Psychedelic Experience - Otherworld Cartographies - A Strange Journey on a Crooked Path SECTION 1: Explorations of Exceptional Entheogen Experiences 1: Notes on Getting Cactus Lodged in Your Reducing Valve: San Pedro and Psychic Abilities - Cactus of the Four Winds - Plant Allies and Plant Alkaloids - Artificial Paradises or Natural Chemical Utopias? - Cleansing the Doors of (Extrasensory) Perception - Putting the Psi Back into Psychedelics - Uncorking the Genie's Bottle - Putting the Cork Back in the Bottle 2. Psychedelic Possession: The Growing Incorporation of Incorporation into Ayahuasca Use - The Growing Incorporation of Incorporation in Ayahuasca Use - The Prepossessing Power of Possession - Psychedelic Possession Outside of Umbandaime and Barquinha - Any Body for Anybody: Shape Sharing or Shape Shifting? - Psychedelic Possession Outside of Shamanism, and Inside Ordinary People - So Why is Umbandaime on the Rise? - Shamanic… or Individualistic, Pluralistic, Consumerist and Technologized? - Synthesis and Analysis - Postscript: Flying High with Goose and Crow 3. The Induction of Synaesthesia with Chemical Agents: A Systematic Review (with Devin Terhune) - Methods - Results - Discussion - Postscript: A Placebo-Controlled LSD-induced Synaesthesia Experiment 4. Rock Art or Rorschach: Is There More to Entoptics Than Meets the Eye? - Entoptics as Hallucinations and Projections: Both, Either, or Neither? - Multidimensional Form Constants - The Extra Dimensions of Cyberdelia - Turning a Blind Eye to Entoptic Phenomena - Omni-directional Perception - Paranormal Visual Perception - Conclusions: Cleansing the Doors of Misperception - Postscript: Hurling Algebra at the Hard Problem of Consciousness to Obscure Absurd Infinite Regress 5. Discarnate Entities and Dimethyltryptamine (DMT): Psychopharmacology, Phenomenology and Ontology - History of DMT Biochemistry - The Speculated Psychopharmacology of DMT, its Related Compounds and the Pineal Gland - Neurochemical Action of DMT - Phenomenology of the DMT Experience - Mental Imagery - DMT and Veridical Visions - Phenomenological Cartography of the DMT World - Discarnate Entities - Ontology of DMT Beings 6. Disembodied Eyes Revisited: An Investigation into the Ontology of Entheogenic Entity Encounters - A Brief Glance at the Truly Forbidden - Snake Eyes - Sentient Entities - Postscript: More Fishy Than the Greenwich Pie n Eel Shop 7. Psychedelics and Species Connectedness - Turning Topiary - Ecodelia - Shamanism, Animism and Animaphany - Interspecies Communication SECTION 2: Do Psychedelics Like Psilocybin Really Cause Psi? 8. Psychoactive Substances and Paranormal Phenomena Review 9. Psychedelic/Neurochemical Models of Paranormal Experience - Brain as Filter - β-Carbolines, Tryptamines and Psi - DMT, Near-Death and Other Exceptional Experiences - Ketamine and NDEs - Dopamine and Paranormal Beliefs and Experiences - Overview of Psychedelic/Neurochemical Models of Paranormal Experience 10. Field Reports of Psychedelic Paranormal Phenomena - Anthropological and Historical Reports - Personal Views and Experiences - Clinical Reports - Evaluation of Field Reports 11. Surveys of Psychedelic Paranormal Beliefs and Experiences - Surveys of Belief in the Paranormal - Surveys of Paranormal Experiences - Surveys and Out-of-body Experiences - Summary of Survey Research 12. Experimental Psychedelic ESP Research - Forced Choice Designs - Free Response Psychometry (Object Reading) Experiments - Other Free Response Clairvoyance Experiments - Free Response Telepathy Experiments - Summary of Experimental Research 13. Methodological Critique of Experimental ESP Research 14. General Summary and Conclusions on Psychedelic Parapsychological Research Afterword: Pulling Magicians out of a Rabbit Hole References Index
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1908995149
25 January 2018 06:38
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Breaking Convention (Vol III): Psychedelic Pharmacology for the 21st Century (2017)
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Sessa, B., Luke, D., Adams, C., King, D., Tollan, A., & Wyrd, N. (Eds.)(2017). Breaking Convention (Vol III): Psychedelic pharmacology for the 21st century. London: Strange Attractor/MIT Press. An interdisciplinary selection of twenty-five essays first delivered at Breaking Convention 2015, the third conference on psychedelic consciousness, culture, and clinical research, held at the University of Greenwich, London. Breaking Convention is the largest symposium of its kind, featuring more than 120 academic presentations biennially. Widely regarded as one of the foremost global platforms for serious research into psychedelic pharmacology, the conference has been instrumental in altering popular attitudes towards policy reform, with research focusing on the potential benefits that psychedelic therapies might hold in the treatment of depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, and in harm reduction among habitual substance abusers. Psychedelic Pharmacology for the 21st Century spans the sciences and humanities, from philosophy and neuroscience through chemical models of action to clinical use. This latest volume includes cross-cultural approaches exploring the global drug economy, clinical MDMA trials, histories of psychedelic literature, the enigma of the pineal gland, acid mediumship and psychedelic landscaping. Contributors include: Sam Gandy, Allan Badiner, Friedericke Meckel Fischer, Tharcila Chaves, John Constable, Lorna Olivia O’Dowd, Rick Doblin, Amanda Fielding, Mike Crowley, Robert Dickins, Luke Goaman-Dodson, Ido Hartogsohn, Scott J. Hill, Will Rowlandson, David E. Nichols, Jennifer Lyke and Julia Kuti, Michael Montagne, Jonathan Newman, Carl A.P. Ruck, Dale Pendell, Alan Piper, Graham St. John, Bruce Rimmel, Iker Puente, & Tim Read.
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Sessa, B., Luke, D., Adams, C., King, D., Tollan, A., & Wyrd, N. (Eds.)(2017). Breaking Convention (Vol III): Psychedelic pharmacology for the 21st century. London: Strange Attractor/MIT Press. An interdisciplinary selection of twenty-five essays first delivered at Breaking Convention 2015, the third conference on psychedelic consciousness, culture, and clinical research, held at the University of Greenwich, London. Breaking Convention is the largest symposium of its kind, featuring more than 120 academic presentations biennially. Widely regarded as one of the foremost global platforms for serious research into psychedelic pharmacology, the conference has been instrumental in altering popular attitudes towards policy reform, with research focusing on the potential benefits that psychedelic therapies might hold in the treatment of depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, and in harm reduction among habitual substance abusers. Psychedelic Pharmacology for the 21st Century spans the sciences and humanities, from philosophy and neuroscience through chemical models of action to clinical use. This latest volume includes cross-cultural approaches exploring the global drug economy, clinical MDMA trials, histories of psychedelic literature, the enigma of the pineal gland, acid mediumship and psychedelic landscaping. Contributors include: Sam Gandy, Allan Badiner, Friedericke Meckel Fischer, Tharcila Chaves, John Constable, Lorna Olivia O’Dowd, Rick Doblin, Amanda Fielding, Mike Crowley, Robert Dickins, Luke Goaman-Dodson, Ido Hartogsohn, Scott J. Hill, Will Rowlandson, David E. Nichols, Jennifer Lyke and Julia Kuti, Michael Montagne, Jonathan Newman, Carl A.P. Ruck, Dale Pendell, Alan Piper, Graham St. John, Bruce Rimmel, Iker Puente, & Tim Read.
25 January 2018 06:36
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There’s additional discussion here: Inquiry Driven Systems • C’est Moi ☞ http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Inquiry_Driven_Systems_:_Part_1#C.27est_Moi Resources C.S. Peirce • Upon Logical Comprehension and Extension ☞ http://www.iupui.edu/~peirce/writings/v2/w2/w2_06/v2_06.htm My Notes • Information = Comprehension × Extension ☞ http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Information_%3D_Comprehension_%C3%97_Extension
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25 January 2018 06:34
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“The Interpenetration of Ritual Spaces in Late Antique Religions: An Overview” (2008)
https://www.academia.edu/3307707/_The_Interpenetration_of_Ritual_Spaces_in_Late_Antique_Religions_An_Overview_2008_
https://www.academia.edu/3307707/_The_Interpenetration_of_Ritual_Spaces_in_Late_Antique_Religions_An_Overview_2008_
https://www.academia.edu/3307707/_The_Interpenetration_of_Ritual_Spaces_in_Late_Antique_Religions_An_Overview_2008_
25 January 2018 06:33
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An Introduction to the High Degrees of Freemasonry
https://www.academia.edu/237466/An_Introduction_to_the_High_Degrees_of_Freemasonry
https://www.academia.edu/237466/An_Introduction_to_the_High_Degrees_of_Freemasonry
https://www.academia.edu/237466/An_Introduction_to_the_High_Degrees_of_Freemasonry
25 January 2018 06:33
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Magical Protection: Ethiopian Prayer Scrolls and Egyptian Oracular Amuletic Decrees
https://www.academia.edu/35625610/Magical_Protection_Ethiopian_Prayer_Scrolls_and_Egyptian_Oracular_Amuletic_Decrees
https://www.academia.edu/35625610/Magical_Protection_Ethiopian_Prayer_Scrolls_and_Egyptian_Oracular_Amuletic_Decrees
https://www.academia.edu/35625610/Magical_Protection_Ethiopian_Prayer_Scrolls_and_Egyptian_Oracular_Amuletic_Decrees
25 January 2018 06:32
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Cfp: Performing Utopia: Discourses of Love, Compassion and More in International Relations
https://www.academia.edu/35643863/Cfp_Performing_Utopia_Discourses_of_Love_Compassion_and_More_in_International_Relations
Dr Audrey Alejandro is a Lecturer in Politics and International Relations at Queen Mary University of London. Her research focuses on the social and political conditions of the internationalisation of knowledge, and the relation between knowledge innovation and social transformation. After investigating the impact of Eurocentrism on the internationalisation of social sciences in Brazil and India, her current research explores technical assistance policies regarding agriculture and sustainable development in the Caribbean. She is a member of the Doing International Political Sociology Research Cluster at the School of Politics and International Relations
https://www.academia.edu/35643863/Cfp_Performing_Utopia_Discourses_of_Love_Compassion_and_More_in_International_Relations
Dr Audrey Alejandro is a Lecturer in Politics and International Relations at Queen Mary University of London. Her research focuses on the social and political conditions of the internationalisation of knowledge, and the relation between knowledge innovation and social transformation. After investigating the impact of Eurocentrism on the internationalisation of social sciences in Brazil and India, her current research explores technical assistance policies regarding agriculture and sustainable development in the Caribbean. She is a member of the Doing International Political Sociology Research Cluster at the School of Politics and International Relations
https://www.academia.edu/35643863/Cfp_Performing_Utopia_Discourses_of_Love_Compassion_and_More_in_International_Relations
25 January 2018 06:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Of Ottoman Ghosts, Vampires and Sorcerers: An Old Discussion Disinterred.
ARCHIVUM OTTOMANICUM
Edited by György Hazai with assistance of P. Fodor, G. Hagen, E.İhsanoğlu, H.İnalcık, B. Kellner-Heinkele, H. W. Lowry, H. G. Majer, Rh. Murphey, M. Ursinus, and E. A. Zachariadou
https://www.academia.edu/5383402/Of_Ottoman_Ghosts_Vampires_and_Sorcerers_An_Old_Discussion_Disinterred
ARCHIVUM OTTOMANICUM
Edited by György Hazai with assistance of P. Fodor, G. Hagen, E.İhsanoğlu, H.İnalcık, B. Kellner-Heinkele, H. W. Lowry, H. G. Majer, Rh. Murphey, M. Ursinus, and E. A. Zachariadou
https://www.academia.edu/5383402/Of_Ottoman_Ghosts_Vampires_and_Sorcerers_An_Old_Discussion_Disinterred
https://www.academia.edu/5383402/Of_Ottoman_Ghosts_Vampires_and_Sorcerers_An_Old_Discussion_Disinterred
25 January 2018 06:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Rudolf Steiner's Conception of Meditation and Spirituality
(Waldorf Schools ideoloogia?)
https://www.academia.edu/35492957/Rudolf_Steiners_Conception_of_Meditation_and_Spirituality
SUMMARY –
The academic study of anthroposophy is a nascent field of research. This article presents an overview of the core features of Ru-dolf Steiner’s conception of meditation and spirituality based on an anal-ysis of Steiner’s work. The main aim of this form of meditation is to connect divinity and nature through the human being. This aim is real-ized through a three-step process of freedom, surrender, and unification. First the human being liberates itself from its dependence on material conditions, then it surrenders and connects with a greater reality beyond it, and finally it brings back the knowledge and capacities gained through the meditative practice to help inform scientific inquiry and to reshape the world. The emphasis on thought, nature, strengthening the self, and sociocultural renewal sets Steiner’s conception of meditation apart from other contemplative traditions and current conceptions of meditation, which tend to have a different and even opposite focus. Hence the study of Steiner’s conception of meditation provides a novel perspective on the significance of meditation and spiritual practice that challenges how meditation is conceived both traditionally and in contemporary culture and research.
(Waldorf Schools ideoloogia?)
https://www.academia.edu/35492957/Rudolf_Steiners_Conception_of_Meditation_and_Spirituality
SUMMARY –
The academic study of anthroposophy is a nascent field of research. This article presents an overview of the core features of Ru-dolf Steiner’s conception of meditation and spirituality based on an anal-ysis of Steiner’s work. The main aim of this form of meditation is to connect divinity and nature through the human being. This aim is real-ized through a three-step process of freedom, surrender, and unification. First the human being liberates itself from its dependence on material conditions, then it surrenders and connects with a greater reality beyond it, and finally it brings back the knowledge and capacities gained through the meditative practice to help inform scientific inquiry and to reshape the world. The emphasis on thought, nature, strengthening the self, and sociocultural renewal sets Steiner’s conception of meditation apart from other contemplative traditions and current conceptions of meditation, which tend to have a different and even opposite focus. Hence the study of Steiner’s conception of meditation provides a novel perspective on the significance of meditation and spiritual practice that challenges how meditation is conceived both traditionally and in contemporary culture and research.
https://www.academia.edu/35492957/Rudolf_Steiners_Conception_of_Meditation_and_Spirituality
25 January 2018 06:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Maidens, Magic and Martyrs in Early Christianity
https://www.academia.edu/35568129/Maidens_Magic_and_Martyrs_in_Early_Christianity
Although I am the son of a Dutch Calvinist minister, the grandson of a Calvin-ist minister and the great-grandson of a Calvinist professor of theology, the last thing I ever imagined was that I would publish my collected essays in the distin-guished series of the
Wissenschaftliche Untersuchungen zum Neuen Testament
. I never was a theologian, a New Testament specialist or a patristic scholar, but after about fifteen years as ancient historian in Utrecht, I ended my scholarly career in the Chair of Religious Studies at Groningen. Yet the invitation by the editor, Jörg Frey, to publish my collected essays in his series was too attractive and honourable not to accept. After some deliberation, I decided to divide my essays into three volumes. The first one concentrates on Christianity in its first two centuries, the second on Greek and Roman mythology and religion, and the third on the interplay of Christianity and Judaism with the Greco-Roman world. The division is of course somewhat artificial, as all essays deal with the ancient world or its reception by modern scholars. It is therefore more a ques-tion of focus than of an always clear-cut division between the various volumes
https://www.academia.edu/35568129/Maidens_Magic_and_Martyrs_in_Early_Christianity
Although I am the son of a Dutch Calvinist minister, the grandson of a Calvin-ist minister and the great-grandson of a Calvinist professor of theology, the last thing I ever imagined was that I would publish my collected essays in the distin-guished series of the
Wissenschaftliche Untersuchungen zum Neuen Testament
. I never was a theologian, a New Testament specialist or a patristic scholar, but after about fifteen years as ancient historian in Utrecht, I ended my scholarly career in the Chair of Religious Studies at Groningen. Yet the invitation by the editor, Jörg Frey, to publish my collected essays in his series was too attractive and honourable not to accept. After some deliberation, I decided to divide my essays into three volumes. The first one concentrates on Christianity in its first two centuries, the second on Greek and Roman mythology and religion, and the third on the interplay of Christianity and Judaism with the Greco-Roman world. The division is of course somewhat artificial, as all essays deal with the ancient world or its reception by modern scholars. It is therefore more a ques-tion of focus than of an always clear-cut division between the various volumes
https://www.academia.edu/35568129/Maidens_Magic_and_Martyrs_in_Early_Christianity
25 January 2018 06:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mysticism versus Philosophy in Kabbalistic literature
https://www.academia.edu/472471/Mysticism_versus_Philosophy_in_Kabbalistic_literature
https://www.academia.edu/472471/Mysticism_versus_Philosophy_in_Kabbalistic_literature
https://www.academia.edu/472471/Mysticism_versus_Philosophy_in_Kabbalistic_literature
25 January 2018 06:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Agnōsia: The Apophatic Experience of God in Dionysius the Areopagite
Daniel Jugrin
University of Bucharest
The mystical union with God is accomplished at the moment when the Intellect separates from itself, by entering into the Divine Darkness. This ecstasy of the Intellect and this accession to God are the ones who allow it to know God not by itself but by the union itself, to know God in God and through God. This is “the most divine knowledge” qua unknowing (cf. De divinis nominibus VII.3). There is a difference between ignorance (agnoia) and unknowing (agnōsia) which corresponds to the distinction between skotos (obscurity qua deprivation of light) and gnophos (darkness qua superabundance of light).
https://www.academia.edu/32728367/Agn%C5%8Dsia_The_Apophatic_Experience_of_God_in_Dionysius_the_Areopagite
Daniel Jugrin
University of Bucharest
The mystical union with God is accomplished at the moment when the Intellect separates from itself, by entering into the Divine Darkness. This ecstasy of the Intellect and this accession to God are the ones who allow it to know God not by itself but by the union itself, to know God in God and through God. This is “the most divine knowledge” qua unknowing (cf. De divinis nominibus VII.3). There is a difference between ignorance (agnoia) and unknowing (agnōsia) which corresponds to the distinction between skotos (obscurity qua deprivation of light) and gnophos (darkness qua superabundance of light).
https://www.academia.edu/32728367/Agn%C5%8Dsia_The_Apophatic_Experience_of_God_in_Dionysius_the_Areopagite
https://www.academia.edu/32728367/Agn%C5%8Dsia_The_Apophatic_Experience_of_God_in_Dionysius_the_Areopagite
25 January 2018 06:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The Illuminates of Thanateros and the Institutionalisation of Religious Individualisation
Bernd-Christian Otto Max Weber Centre for Advanced Cultural and Social Studies, Erfurt University, Germany
https://www.academia.edu/35746068/The_Illuminates_of_Thanateros_and_the_Institutionalisation_of_Religious_Individualisation_Preprint_
Bernd-Christian Otto Max Weber Centre for Advanced Cultural and Social Studies, Erfurt University, Germany
https://www.academia.edu/35746068/The_Illuminates_of_Thanateros_and_the_Institutionalisation_of_Religious_Individualisation_Preprint_
https://www.academia.edu/35746068/The_Illuminates_of_Thanateros_and_the_Institutionalisation_of_Religious_Individualisation_Preprint_
25 January 2018 06:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Libertarian Municipalism: Networked Cities as Resilient Platforms for Post-Capitalist Transition By Kevin Carson
Center for a Stateless Society
https://www.academia.edu/35742662/Libertarian_Municipalism_Networked_Cities_as_Resilient_Platforms_for_Post-Capitalist_Transition
community in Scotland, founded in 1962.
22
In 1975 the magazine
Mother Earth News
began constructing experimental energy systems,
Global Ecovillage Network.
GEN was based on, and in some cases went on to incorporate, a number of Òapparently simultaneous ideas arising in different locations at about the same time.Ó It seems to have been a direct outgrowth of the Òplanetary villageÓ movement, centered on the Findhorn novel buildings, and organic gardens near its business office in Hendersonville, North Carolina, and in 1979, began calling this educational center an "eco-village." At about the same time in Germany, during the political resistance against disposal of nuclear waste in the town of Gorleben, anti-nuclear activists attempted to build a small, ecologically based village at the site, which they called an okodorf (literally ecovillage). In the largest police action seen in Germany since the Second World War, their camp was ultimately removed, but the concept lived on, and small okodorf experiments continued in both eastern and western Germany. The magazine
Okodorf Informationen
began publishing in 1985 and later evolved into
Eurotopia
. After the reunification of Germany, the movement coalesced and became part of the International ecovillage movement
"This enabling metastructureÑoften referred to as ÒThe Partner StateÓÑwould also take on new
functions derived from already existing P2P/Commons practices. Among these, we would see a promotion of real, needs-oriented entrepreneurship, bolstered by explicit recognition and support of bottom-up productive infrastructures, such as Open Coops, mesh wireless networks or community renewables through public-
Commons
partnerships. It would allow commoners to repurpose or take over unused or underutilised public buildings for social ends while giving legal recognition to the act of commoning, whether through copyleft-inspired property-law hacks or through a longer process of gradually institutionalizing commons practices. Its grassroots democratizing ethos would create new financing mechanisms and debt-free public money creation, which, alongside social currencies, could fund environmentally regenerative work and the creation of new, distributed Open-source infrastructure.
--
Center for a Stateless Society
https://www.academia.edu/35742662/Libertarian_Municipalism_Networked_Cities_as_Resilient_Platforms_for_Post-Capitalist_Transition
community in Scotland, founded in 1962.
22
In 1975 the magazine
Mother Earth News
began constructing experimental energy systems,
Global Ecovillage Network.
GEN was based on, and in some cases went on to incorporate, a number of Òapparently simultaneous ideas arising in different locations at about the same time.Ó It seems to have been a direct outgrowth of the Òplanetary villageÓ movement, centered on the Findhorn novel buildings, and organic gardens near its business office in Hendersonville, North Carolina, and in 1979, began calling this educational center an "eco-village." At about the same time in Germany, during the political resistance against disposal of nuclear waste in the town of Gorleben, anti-nuclear activists attempted to build a small, ecologically based village at the site, which they called an okodorf (literally ecovillage). In the largest police action seen in Germany since the Second World War, their camp was ultimately removed, but the concept lived on, and small okodorf experiments continued in both eastern and western Germany. The magazine
Okodorf Informationen
began publishing in 1985 and later evolved into
Eurotopia
. After the reunification of Germany, the movement coalesced and became part of the International ecovillage movement
"This enabling metastructureÑoften referred to as ÒThe Partner StateÓÑwould also take on new
functions derived from already existing P2P/Commons practices. Among these, we would see a promotion of real, needs-oriented entrepreneurship, bolstered by explicit recognition and support of bottom-up productive infrastructures, such as Open Coops, mesh wireless networks or community renewables through public-
Commons
partnerships. It would allow commoners to repurpose or take over unused or underutilised public buildings for social ends while giving legal recognition to the act of commoning, whether through copyleft-inspired property-law hacks or through a longer process of gradually institutionalizing commons practices. Its grassroots democratizing ethos would create new financing mechanisms and debt-free public money creation, which, alongside social currencies, could fund environmentally regenerative work and the creation of new, distributed Open-source infrastructure.
--
https://www.academia.edu/35742662/Libertarian_Municipalism_Networked_Cities_as_Resilient_Platforms_for_Post-Capitalist_Transition
25 January 2018 06:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Transcending the Rational Symbol System: how ICT integrates science, art, philosophy and spirituality into a global brain
https://www.academia.edu/35651798/Transcending_the_Rational_Symbol_System_how_ICT_integrates_science_art_philosophy_and_spirituality_into_a_global_brain
Symbols support the uniquely human capabilities of language, culture and thinking. Therefore, cognitive science has tried to explain intelligence as founded on rational symbol systems (RSS): collections of symbols together with logical and grammatical rules for combining these symbols into expressions. The main shortcoming of this RSS mechanism is that it reduces the continuous experience of reality to a combination of static, discrete, and to some degree arbitrary, elements. To fully support intelligence, such symbols need to be grounded in subsymbolic networks and situated interactions that capture the subjective, transient and intuitive aspects of experience. Historically, different approaches have tried to overcome the shortcomings of rational symbol systems, albeit as yet with limited success: science, by formalizing and operationalizing symbols; philosophy, by seeking for the reality behind symbols while analyzing the shortcomings of symbolic representations; art, by evoking intuitive insights and experiences; and spirituality, by expanding consciousness beyond rational symbol systems. The on-going explosion in information and communication technology now makes it possible to extend and integrate their results, through techniques such as computer simulation, artificial intelligence, neural networks, multimedia, virtual and augmented reality, and brain-computer interfaces. Thus, the subsymbolic level of cognition, like the symbolic level before it, becomes externalized and controllable, supporting and automating creativity and intuition. It is proposed that this will produce an evolutionary transition to a supra-human level of knowledge, intelligence and consciousness, envisioned as a Global Brain for humanity.
https://www.academia.edu/35651798/Transcending_the_Rational_Symbol_System_how_ICT_integrates_science_art_philosophy_and_spirituality_into_a_global_brain
Symbols support the uniquely human capabilities of language, culture and thinking. Therefore, cognitive science has tried to explain intelligence as founded on rational symbol systems (RSS): collections of symbols together with logical and grammatical rules for combining these symbols into expressions. The main shortcoming of this RSS mechanism is that it reduces the continuous experience of reality to a combination of static, discrete, and to some degree arbitrary, elements. To fully support intelligence, such symbols need to be grounded in subsymbolic networks and situated interactions that capture the subjective, transient and intuitive aspects of experience. Historically, different approaches have tried to overcome the shortcomings of rational symbol systems, albeit as yet with limited success: science, by formalizing and operationalizing symbols; philosophy, by seeking for the reality behind symbols while analyzing the shortcomings of symbolic representations; art, by evoking intuitive insights and experiences; and spirituality, by expanding consciousness beyond rational symbol systems. The on-going explosion in information and communication technology now makes it possible to extend and integrate their results, through techniques such as computer simulation, artificial intelligence, neural networks, multimedia, virtual and augmented reality, and brain-computer interfaces. Thus, the subsymbolic level of cognition, like the symbolic level before it, becomes externalized and controllable, supporting and automating creativity and intuition. It is proposed that this will produce an evolutionary transition to a supra-human level of knowledge, intelligence and consciousness, envisioned as a Global Brain for humanity.
https://www.academia.edu/35651798/Transcending_the_Rational_Symbol_System_how_ICT_integrates_science_art_philosophy_and_spirituality_into_a_global_brain
25 January 2018 06:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Right Wing Populism in the West, Social Media Discourse and Echo Chambers
https://www.academia.edu/34303174/Right_Wing_Populism_in_the_West_Social_Media_Discourse_and_Echo_Chambers
https://www.academia.edu/34303174/Right_Wing_Populism_in_the_West_Social_Media_Discourse_and_Echo_Chambers
https://www.academia.edu/34303174/Right_Wing_Populism_in_the_West_Social_Media_Discourse_and_Echo_Chambers
25 January 2018 06:26
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Eric Kurlander, Hitler’s Monsters: A Supernatural History of the Third Reich, New Haven/London: Yale University Press 2017.
https://www.academia.edu/35607481/Eric_Kurlander_Hitler_s_Monsters_A_Supernatural_History_of_the_Third_Reich_New_Haven_London_Yale_University_Press_2017
Among the steady stream of publications devoted to the relationship between esotericism and National Socialism, Eric Kurlander’s study is one of the rare examples of a serious contribution to an old debate. It offers a most welcome critical perspective that sets it apart from the scholarship of recent decades, most
signicantly Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke’s
The Occult Roots of Nazism
(1985) and
Corinna Treitel’s
A Science for the Soul
(2004). In contrast to these studies, which
were highly cautious about claiming actual links between esotericism and National
Socialism, Kurlander establishes the central argument that “ National Socialism, even when critical of occultism, was more preoccupied by and indebted to a wide array of supernatural doctrines and esoteric practices than any mass political movement of the interwar period.” (xiv) By covering a vast spectrum of topics
and sources, and by taking into consideration an impressive amount of secondary
literature, the ambitions of
Hitler’s Monsters
are high: In the three chapters of Part One, Kurlander investigates the emergence of National Socialism since the late
1880s and its relationship to what is termed “the supernatural”; Part Two, again
consisting of three chapters, discusses the relationship between the National
Socialist state and the supernatural; while the last three chapters of Part Three
deal with the period of the Second World War until 1945
It is correct that Goodrick-Clarke’s classic study of Ariosophy did not dwell on the Third Reich itself, thus making
it an incomplete source for an understanding of the actual relationship between Ariosophy and the NSDAP. Kurlander is also right to point out the sometimes
one-dimensional conclusions of what he calls the “revisionist” genre of literature, which is especially represented by Treitel. As Kurlander explains, it “has provided
a welcome corrective to the ‘special path’ (
Sonderweg
) literature typied by earlier accounts,” which overemphasized not only the anti-modern and illiberal ten-dencies inherent within German culture, but also the inuence of esotericism
on National Socialism (xiii).
https://www.academia.edu/35607481/Eric_Kurlander_Hitler_s_Monsters_A_Supernatural_History_of_the_Third_Reich_New_Haven_London_Yale_University_Press_2017
Among the steady stream of publications devoted to the relationship between esotericism and National Socialism, Eric Kurlander’s study is one of the rare examples of a serious contribution to an old debate. It offers a most welcome critical perspective that sets it apart from the scholarship of recent decades, most
signicantly Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke’s
The Occult Roots of Nazism
(1985) and
Corinna Treitel’s
A Science for the Soul
(2004). In contrast to these studies, which
were highly cautious about claiming actual links between esotericism and National
Socialism, Kurlander establishes the central argument that “ National Socialism, even when critical of occultism, was more preoccupied by and indebted to a wide array of supernatural doctrines and esoteric practices than any mass political movement of the interwar period.” (xiv) By covering a vast spectrum of topics
and sources, and by taking into consideration an impressive amount of secondary
literature, the ambitions of
Hitler’s Monsters
are high: In the three chapters of Part One, Kurlander investigates the emergence of National Socialism since the late
1880s and its relationship to what is termed “the supernatural”; Part Two, again
consisting of three chapters, discusses the relationship between the National
Socialist state and the supernatural; while the last three chapters of Part Three
deal with the period of the Second World War until 1945
It is correct that Goodrick-Clarke’s classic study of Ariosophy did not dwell on the Third Reich itself, thus making
it an incomplete source for an understanding of the actual relationship between Ariosophy and the NSDAP. Kurlander is also right to point out the sometimes
one-dimensional conclusions of what he calls the “revisionist” genre of literature, which is especially represented by Treitel. As Kurlander explains, it “has provided
a welcome corrective to the ‘special path’ (
Sonderweg
) literature typied by earlier accounts,” which overemphasized not only the anti-modern and illiberal ten-dencies inherent within German culture, but also the inuence of esotericism
on National Socialism (xiii).
https://www.academia.edu/35607481/Eric_Kurlander_Hitler_s_Monsters_A_Supernatural_History_of_the_Third_Reich_New_Haven_London_Yale_University_Press_2017
25 January 2018 06:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
LOST IN TRANSLATION: Non-Linear Literary, Cultural, Temporal, Political, and Cosmological Transformations – the Anglo-Japanese Productions of Minakata Kumagusu
https://www.academia.edu/2903285/LOST_IN_TRANSLATION_Non-Linear_Literary_Cultural_Temporal_Political_and_Cosmological_Transformations_the_Anglo-Japanese_Productions_of_Minakata_Kumagusu
The life of Minakata Kumagusu is remarkable in many of its particulars, both biographical and intellectual. Indeed, his efforts in a broad array of fields—as a pioneer in the field of Japanese mycology, as a literary translator of several key works of medieval Japanese literature, as an early contributor to the British tradition of global comparative folklore studies, as a folklore collector and critical thinker who played a key role in the formation of an endogenous Japanese tradition of folklore studies known as
minzokugaku
, as a theoretician and activist who is rightly regarded as the Father of Japanese ecology, and as an epistemological thinker who successfully fused Esoteric Buddhist cosmology and Western empirical inquiry—are so considerable and varied that numerous scholars in a wide range of scholarly projects have, in recent years, touched on one or another aspect of his life and work. In an era when many of these emergent disciplines were first embarking on their own courses of historical development, he actively explored them all and left footprints that point to lines of inquiry which remain not only relevant, but as prescient in current circumstances as they were in his own time
https://www.academia.edu/2903285/LOST_IN_TRANSLATION_Non-Linear_Literary_Cultural_Temporal_Political_and_Cosmological_Transformations_the_Anglo-Japanese_Productions_of_Minakata_Kumagusu
The life of Minakata Kumagusu is remarkable in many of its particulars, both biographical and intellectual. Indeed, his efforts in a broad array of fields—as a pioneer in the field of Japanese mycology, as a literary translator of several key works of medieval Japanese literature, as an early contributor to the British tradition of global comparative folklore studies, as a folklore collector and critical thinker who played a key role in the formation of an endogenous Japanese tradition of folklore studies known as
minzokugaku
, as a theoretician and activist who is rightly regarded as the Father of Japanese ecology, and as an epistemological thinker who successfully fused Esoteric Buddhist cosmology and Western empirical inquiry—are so considerable and varied that numerous scholars in a wide range of scholarly projects have, in recent years, touched on one or another aspect of his life and work. In an era when many of these emergent disciplines were first embarking on their own courses of historical development, he actively explored them all and left footprints that point to lines of inquiry which remain not only relevant, but as prescient in current circumstances as they were in his own time
https://www.academia.edu/2903285/LOST_IN_TRANSLATION_Non-Linear_Literary_Cultural_Temporal_Political_and_Cosmological_Transformations_the_Anglo-Japanese_Productions_of_Minakata_Kumagusu
25 January 2018 06:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
25 January 2018 06:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja kes nüüüd jamab, kes öösel paneb kella 4-5 aeg eetrisse: PANTOKRAATOR - Puhastuslaul
nu mis tunnetus see selline on ?
nu mis tunnetus see selline on ?
25 January 2018 04:46
Margus Meigo replied to Isa Linda's comment.
How they talk about Korea in your place and media Isa?
25 January 2018 04:44
Margus Meigo replied to Isa Linda's comment.
Korea we need to help, out from the situation and they make great progress to become free from internal and specially external hostility
25 January 2018 04:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ma peaaegu eriti kunagi Kanepi uudiseid ei jaga, kuid siin ikkagi tegu Eestimaaga ju!
25 January 2018 04:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mitte selle lõpetmaisele
25 January 2018 04:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muidugi Sõdima meid küll priiuses midagi ei kutsuma peaks vaid ikka lahendusi,
kuigi, eks vb tõesti vaja ka, et sõjavalmis ollakse, võimalised vastugi andma suts, kuid suures plaanis ikka elu ülesehitamisele tuleb keskenduda
kuigi, eks vb tõesti vaja ka, et sõjavalmis ollakse, võimalised vastugi andma suts, kuid suures plaanis ikka elu ülesehitamisele tuleb keskenduda
25 January 2018 04:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muud mõtted:
24.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Saamuel Pliuhkam
„Meie häda on see, et lolle on palju!”
Laadi alla
23.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Konstantin Päts
„Rahvas on haige ja me peame näitama selle sümptoome, et seda ravida saaks.”
Laadi alla
22.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Madis Kõiv
„Ma olen seda mõttes nimetanud „Lembitu” sündroomiks.”
Laadi alla
21.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Heinz Valk
“Ükskord me võidame niikuinii!”
Laadi alla
20.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Gustav Suits
"Olgem eestlased, aga saagem ka eurooplasteks!”
Laadi alla
19.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Juhan Voolaid
“Me reisime ahvide planeedilt inimeste omale, ja kui miski viib meid kiiremini kohale kui demokraatia, siis tuleb seda miskit ka kasutada.”
Laadi alla
18.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Andres Tiido
Sest Eestimaa on meie hüid
Nüid orja unest ärkame
Ja ühes sõtta tõttame
Sest priius läigib meie eel
Ja Eesti vabatriigi peal.
Priius, auu ja Eestimaa
Need kutsuvad meid sõdima,
Sest astkem ette rõõmuga
Hurraah, hurraa, hurraa.
Laadi alla
17.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Andres Raid
“Küsimuse peale, mis kell on, võtab ametnik ikka kraadiklaasi ja teatab, et on teisipäev!”
Laadi alla
16.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Jaan Kross
“Ja seda tahan ma teile ütelda: meid, eestlasi, on niivõrd vähe, et iga eestlase siht - või vähemalt iga Wikmani poisi siht peab olema surematus!”
Laadi alla
15.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Carl Robert Jakobson
“Et see aeg Eesti rahva pimeduse aeg olnud, kes tahaks seda valeks teha?”
Laadi alla
14.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Ülo Kiple
„Haiguste ravi. Kontrollitud. 1. Üksindus – magamistuba vaikuse, pimeduse, raadioga 2. Selts – elukoht kellegi juures 3. Priisöökla.”
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13.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Karl Ernst von Baer
“Ka see rahvas püüdleb rõõmsa meele poole, et hetkekski unustada oma rõhuvad elutingimused, kuigi toores vaim saab osa üksnes metsikust ja möllavast rõõmust ja jääb võõraks rahulikule lõbususele.”
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12.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Oskar Luts
"Kui Arno isaga koolimajja jõudis, olid tunnid juba alanud…"
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11.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Artur Sirk
„Erakondade tegevus oli arenenud selles suunas, et unustati rahvas, viimast vajati veel ainult kui hääletusmaterjali.”
Laadi alla
10.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Priit Pärn
"Sitta kah!"
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09.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Arvo Pärt
“Kõige tundlikum muusikainstrument on inimese hing, sellest järgmine inimese hääl. On vaja puhastada oma hinge, kuni ta helisema hakkab.”
Laadi alla
08.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Juhan Liiv
Juhan Liiv: "Ja nõnda on lugu ka Eestis. Ja nõnda on elukiik. Ükskord, kui terve mõte. Ükskord on Eesti riik."
24.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Saamuel Pliuhkam
„Meie häda on see, et lolle on palju!”
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23.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Konstantin Päts
„Rahvas on haige ja me peame näitama selle sümptoome, et seda ravida saaks.”
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22.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Madis Kõiv
„Ma olen seda mõttes nimetanud „Lembitu” sündroomiks.”
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21.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Heinz Valk
“Ükskord me võidame niikuinii!”
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20.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Gustav Suits
"Olgem eestlased, aga saagem ka eurooplasteks!”
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19.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Juhan Voolaid
“Me reisime ahvide planeedilt inimeste omale, ja kui miski viib meid kiiremini kohale kui demokraatia, siis tuleb seda miskit ka kasutada.”
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18.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Andres Tiido
Sest Eestimaa on meie hüid
Nüid orja unest ärkame
Ja ühes sõtta tõttame
Sest priius läigib meie eel
Ja Eesti vabatriigi peal.
Priius, auu ja Eestimaa
Need kutsuvad meid sõdima,
Sest astkem ette rõõmuga
Hurraah, hurraa, hurraa.
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17.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Andres Raid
“Küsimuse peale, mis kell on, võtab ametnik ikka kraadiklaasi ja teatab, et on teisipäev!”
Laadi alla
16.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Jaan Kross
“Ja seda tahan ma teile ütelda: meid, eestlasi, on niivõrd vähe, et iga eestlase siht - või vähemalt iga Wikmani poisi siht peab olema surematus!”
Laadi alla
15.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Carl Robert Jakobson
“Et see aeg Eesti rahva pimeduse aeg olnud, kes tahaks seda valeks teha?”
Laadi alla
14.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Ülo Kiple
„Haiguste ravi. Kontrollitud. 1. Üksindus – magamistuba vaikuse, pimeduse, raadioga 2. Selts – elukoht kellegi juures 3. Priisöökla.”
Laadi alla
13.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Karl Ernst von Baer
“Ka see rahvas püüdleb rõõmsa meele poole, et hetkekski unustada oma rõhuvad elutingimused, kuigi toores vaim saab osa üksnes metsikust ja möllavast rõõmust ja jääb võõraks rahulikule lõbususele.”
Laadi alla
12.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Oskar Luts
"Kui Arno isaga koolimajja jõudis, olid tunnid juba alanud…"
Laadi alla
11.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Artur Sirk
„Erakondade tegevus oli arenenud selles suunas, et unustati rahvas, viimast vajati veel ainult kui hääletusmaterjali.”
Laadi alla
10.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Priit Pärn
"Sitta kah!"
Laadi alla
09.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Arvo Pärt
“Kõige tundlikum muusikainstrument on inimese hing, sellest järgmine inimese hääl. On vaja puhastada oma hinge, kuni ta helisema hakkab.”
Laadi alla
08.01.2018
Sada Eesti mõtet. Juhan Liiv
Juhan Liiv: "Ja nõnda on lugu ka Eestis. Ja nõnda on elukiik. Ükskord, kui terve mõte. Ükskord on Eesti riik."
25 January 2018 04:40
Margus Meigo commented on Marianne Mikko's post.
Kallis naine, Kas Sa tead palju Naisõiguste eest, mehena veel kõrgemal kohal, veel suuremalt seisjaid (ja seda arutellu toonud) kui Reinsalu ?
25 January 2018 04:19
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
Mul ikka väga hea idee oli feminismi aitamiseks, ega siis see ikka suurkahju enamasti keeleruumi ja kultuuri arusaama osas kui kaotsi läheb miskit, muu maailmajaoks, kokkuvõtvad arusaamad mis selgindavad ja edasi viivad lausega suurkogu täis infot,
Kuid ku isee vaid meelde tuleks..
Kuid ku isee vaid meelde tuleks..
25 January 2018 03:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
oih, see kõlas nüüüd väga liiga dramaatiliselt,
lets lighten up,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFt7Br1VRVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILt5HZnPz5o
Ei me inimkond enam nii pidu pane :D
lets lighten up,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFt7Br1VRVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILt5HZnPz5o
Ei me inimkond enam nii pidu pane :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFt7Br1VRVw
25 January 2018 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
//ega see polegi nüüüd nii väärt
Marilyn Jurman / Nion - Too mõistust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDrDslkbFSw
Marilyn Jurman / Nion - Too mõistust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDrDslkbFSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDrDslkbFSw
25 January 2018 02:38
Margus Meigo replied to Ilme Ka's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Kui inimene saab aru, et minig asi on patt ja siis teeb seda, see juba minuarust palju tõsisem asi.
Ja enamus juhtnöörid lihtsaks arusaamiseks on kirjas kenasti.24 January 2018 20:48
Margus Meigo replied to Ilme Ka's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Ega kui meelega pattu pole teinud, siis minusilmis patuta.
Mina pole kunagi meelega teadlikult pattu teinud ja ei hakka ka24 January 2018 20:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
24 January 2018 19:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Samas muidugi see hea pilt kuid pole silma peas ..
Mis juhtus?
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"Sünnipäeva puhul on sobiv meenutada Janno olulist panust majandusteaduskonna arendamisse juba alates 1990. aastatest, kui ta võttis vastutuse teaduskonna eest dekaanina ja seejärel arendusprodekaanina. Sellest ajast on pärit ka paljud majandusteaduskonna tegevuse tänased aluspõhimõtted, (teadustöö tähtsustamine, õppematerjalide kvaliteet, personali tulemustasustamine, üliõpilastööde kvaliteedinõuded, doktorantide suvekoolid). Tänase majandusteaduskonna kodu Oeconomicumi kujundamine Narva mnt 4 õppehoonesse toimus samuti Janno kui arendusprodekaani juhtimisel.
Janno akadeemiline tegevus on olnud majandusteaduskonnaga seotud alates tudengiajast. Ta lõpetas selle 1975. aastal cum laude, kaitses kandidaadiväitekirja Moskva ülikoolis 1980. aastal ja doktoritöö Tartu ülikoolis 1991. aastal. Janno on olnud ühiskondlikult tegus Eesti riigi taasrajamisel, töötades juba 1992. aastal peaministri nõunikuna, hiljem ka poliitikuna, olles Riigikogu IX, X ja XI koosseisu liige. Ta on osalenud Tartu ülikooli juhtimises nõukogu ja valitsuse liikmena ning eelarvekomisjoni juhina.
Janno on alati pidanud tähtsaks kvaliteeti, tema juhendatud viiest väitekirja kaitsnud doktorist on saanud tänaseks kaks professorit, üks vanemteadur ja üks dotsent. Tema asutatud välismajanduse eriala lõpetajaid on jagunud Euroopa komisjoni, Eesti teistesse ülikoolidesse ja riigiametitesse, aga samuti erasektorisse. Erilist tähelepanu on Janno pööranud rahvusvahelistele suhetele ja koostööle välispartneritega ning toonud teaduskonda rahvusvahelist rahastust (Volkswagen Stiftung, Konrad Adenauer Stiftung, Maailmapank).
Majandusteaduskond korraldab professor Reiljani auks konverentsi teemal «Economic Policy Problems of Small Countries». Konverents toimub 8. oktoobril kell 13–15.30 Lossi 36-215
https://www.ajakiri.ut.ee/artikkel/2080
Mis juhtus?
___
"Sünnipäeva puhul on sobiv meenutada Janno olulist panust majandusteaduskonna arendamisse juba alates 1990. aastatest, kui ta võttis vastutuse teaduskonna eest dekaanina ja seejärel arendusprodekaanina. Sellest ajast on pärit ka paljud majandusteaduskonna tegevuse tänased aluspõhimõtted, (teadustöö tähtsustamine, õppematerjalide kvaliteet, personali tulemustasustamine, üliõpilastööde kvaliteedinõuded, doktorantide suvekoolid). Tänase majandusteaduskonna kodu Oeconomicumi kujundamine Narva mnt 4 õppehoonesse toimus samuti Janno kui arendusprodekaani juhtimisel.
Janno akadeemiline tegevus on olnud majandusteaduskonnaga seotud alates tudengiajast. Ta lõpetas selle 1975. aastal cum laude, kaitses kandidaadiväitekirja Moskva ülikoolis 1980. aastal ja doktoritöö Tartu ülikoolis 1991. aastal. Janno on olnud ühiskondlikult tegus Eesti riigi taasrajamisel, töötades juba 1992. aastal peaministri nõunikuna, hiljem ka poliitikuna, olles Riigikogu IX, X ja XI koosseisu liige. Ta on osalenud Tartu ülikooli juhtimises nõukogu ja valitsuse liikmena ning eelarvekomisjoni juhina.
Janno on alati pidanud tähtsaks kvaliteeti, tema juhendatud viiest väitekirja kaitsnud doktorist on saanud tänaseks kaks professorit, üks vanemteadur ja üks dotsent. Tema asutatud välismajanduse eriala lõpetajaid on jagunud Euroopa komisjoni, Eesti teistesse ülikoolidesse ja riigiametitesse, aga samuti erasektorisse. Erilist tähelepanu on Janno pööranud rahvusvahelistele suhetele ja koostööle välispartneritega ning toonud teaduskonda rahvusvahelist rahastust (Volkswagen Stiftung, Konrad Adenauer Stiftung, Maailmapank).
Majandusteaduskond korraldab professor Reiljani auks konverentsi teemal «Economic Policy Problems of Small Countries». Konverents toimub 8. oktoobril kell 13–15.30 Lossi 36-215
https://www.ajakiri.ut.ee/artikkel/2080
24 January 2018 19:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Justiitsminister Urmas Reinsalu (IRL) saab oma ametis jätkata, sest tema vastu algatatud umbusaldus kukkus kolmapäevasel hääletusel riigikogus läbi.
Reinsalu umbusaldamise poolt hääletas 46 saadikut. Vastu ei hääletanud keegi. Et umbusaldus läbi läinuks, pidanuks selle poolt olema 51 riigikogu liiget.
47 allkirjaga umbusadlusavalduse üle andnud Reformierakonna fraktsioonist ei olnud hääletuse ajal kohal Anne Sullingut ja Deniss Boroditšit.
Skandaal Reinsalu ümber sai alguse sellest, et eelmisel nädalal presidendile saadetud 104 inimese kirjas öeldakse, et poolteist aastat tagasi sai Tiit Ojasoo ja tema vägivallaohvri juhtum kõigest juriidilise lahenduse.
Ojasoole anti uus võimalus, kuid allakirjutanute silmis on sümboolse aktina kahetsusväärne, et talle usaldati EV100 aktuse peoprogrammi lavastamine.
Selline mõtteavaldus lõi inimesed kahte leeri - need, kes toetasid allakirjutanuid, ja need, kes leidsid, et aeg on edasi läinud ja mees oma vitsad saanud.
Eesti Päevalehele saadetud arvamusloos rõhutas Reinsalu, et president Kaljulaidile saadetud 104 allkirjaga avaliku kirja koostajad naeruvääristavad tegelikku lähisuhtevägivalda.
Reinsalu tõi kujundi Ken Kesey raamatust "Lendas üle käopesa", kus McMurphy'il saab õde Ratchedi juhendamisel toimuvast alandamisest villand ja ta käratab, et kanakarja kambakas ära lõpetataks.
"Just see tunne oli mul hommikul, kui lugesin massiüleskutset, et Ojasoo ei tohi aastapäevaetendust lavastada. Ma ei tunne Ojasood. Küllap pole ta inimesena mingi kullatükk. Kui minult tema lepitusmenetluse juhtumi kohta omal ajal arvamust avaldasin, siis mõistsin ma naistevastase vägivalla hukka, kuid nüüd, tänase kirja valguses, lausa kahetsen seda avaldust. Sest avalik meelepaha võttis nõiapõletamise kollektiivse transi mõõtmed," kirjutas Reinsalu 16. jaanuaril.
Umbusaldusavalduse eel tegi Reinsalu uue avalduse, kus kinnitas, et ta eksis, ning palus veel kord vabandust.
"Ma eksisin, kasutades halastuse teemast kõneledes alandavat tooni hulga heausksete inimeste suhtes, kelle eesmärk vägivallaga võidelda oli igati siiras. Vabandan ja kinnitan, et see juhtum on olnud mulle kõva õppetund. Mu ebaõnnestunud sõnastus jättis ka paljudele mulje, otsekui ma ei peaks lähisuhtevägivallaga võitlemist oluliseks. Kinnitan, et see pole nii," teatas Reinsalu.
"Võitluses lähisuhtevägivalla või muude vägivalla vormidega seisan ma ühel pool mõttelist piirjoont kõigi inimestega, kes on selle üle oma muret avaldanud," rõhutas ta.
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Reformierakonna ja IRL-i saadikud Autor/allikas Siim Lõvi/ERR
Seletuskiri riigikogu otsuse umbusaldus justiitsminister Urmas Reinsalule eelnõu juurde:
Avaldame umbusaldust justiitsminister Urmas Reinsalule.
Meie algatuse vahetu põhjus on seisukohavõtt "mõistsin naiste vastase vägivalla hukka, kuid nüüd, tänase kirja valguses, lausa kahetsen seda avaldust".
Justiitsminister vastutab vägivalla vähendamise eest ja ei saa kahetseda, et on sõna võtnud vägivalla vastu. Ta ei saa ka olla ühiskonnale ja paljudele isiklikult nii valusal teemal halvustav avalike sõnavõttude suhtes. Ja ta ei saa avaliku pahameele peale arvata, et kellelegi haiget ei teinud. Vägivalla vastase võitluses on sõna tähtis relv ja justiitsministri sõna on erilise kaaluga sest, et kujundab ka õiguspoliitikat.
Kriitika nii opositsiooni, koalitsiooni kui avalikkuse poolt peaks Eesti poliitiline kultuuri juures tähendama vabatahtlikku tagasiastumist. Kuna seda ei juhtunud, peame vajalikuks väljendada oma umbusku Urmas Reinsalu suhtes konkreetsest juhtumist laiemalt ja see puudutab ka tema pikemaajalist tegevust. Me otsustasime jätta selle arutada riigikogu täiskogule, kuna nagu koalitsioonis, ei lange ka umbusaldajate seas hinnangud igale poliitilistele valikule, sealhulgas Urmas Reinsalu omadele, täiesti kokku. Kuid me oleme ühel meelel, et selguse ja korra loomise asemel on ta segaduse tekitaja ning ei põrku tagasi ka Eesti õigusliku järjepidevuse murendamisest.
https://www.err.ee/677018/reinsalu-jatkab-justiitsministrina-umbusaldamine-kukkus-labi
Reinsalu umbusaldamise poolt hääletas 46 saadikut. Vastu ei hääletanud keegi. Et umbusaldus läbi läinuks, pidanuks selle poolt olema 51 riigikogu liiget.
47 allkirjaga umbusadlusavalduse üle andnud Reformierakonna fraktsioonist ei olnud hääletuse ajal kohal Anne Sullingut ja Deniss Boroditšit.
Skandaal Reinsalu ümber sai alguse sellest, et eelmisel nädalal presidendile saadetud 104 inimese kirjas öeldakse, et poolteist aastat tagasi sai Tiit Ojasoo ja tema vägivallaohvri juhtum kõigest juriidilise lahenduse.
Ojasoole anti uus võimalus, kuid allakirjutanute silmis on sümboolse aktina kahetsusväärne, et talle usaldati EV100 aktuse peoprogrammi lavastamine.
Selline mõtteavaldus lõi inimesed kahte leeri - need, kes toetasid allakirjutanuid, ja need, kes leidsid, et aeg on edasi läinud ja mees oma vitsad saanud.
Eesti Päevalehele saadetud arvamusloos rõhutas Reinsalu, et president Kaljulaidile saadetud 104 allkirjaga avaliku kirja koostajad naeruvääristavad tegelikku lähisuhtevägivalda.
Reinsalu tõi kujundi Ken Kesey raamatust "Lendas üle käopesa", kus McMurphy'il saab õde Ratchedi juhendamisel toimuvast alandamisest villand ja ta käratab, et kanakarja kambakas ära lõpetataks.
"Just see tunne oli mul hommikul, kui lugesin massiüleskutset, et Ojasoo ei tohi aastapäevaetendust lavastada. Ma ei tunne Ojasood. Küllap pole ta inimesena mingi kullatükk. Kui minult tema lepitusmenetluse juhtumi kohta omal ajal arvamust avaldasin, siis mõistsin ma naistevastase vägivalla hukka, kuid nüüd, tänase kirja valguses, lausa kahetsen seda avaldust. Sest avalik meelepaha võttis nõiapõletamise kollektiivse transi mõõtmed," kirjutas Reinsalu 16. jaanuaril.
Umbusaldusavalduse eel tegi Reinsalu uue avalduse, kus kinnitas, et ta eksis, ning palus veel kord vabandust.
"Ma eksisin, kasutades halastuse teemast kõneledes alandavat tooni hulga heausksete inimeste suhtes, kelle eesmärk vägivallaga võidelda oli igati siiras. Vabandan ja kinnitan, et see juhtum on olnud mulle kõva õppetund. Mu ebaõnnestunud sõnastus jättis ka paljudele mulje, otsekui ma ei peaks lähisuhtevägivallaga võitlemist oluliseks. Kinnitan, et see pole nii," teatas Reinsalu.
"Võitluses lähisuhtevägivalla või muude vägivalla vormidega seisan ma ühel pool mõttelist piirjoont kõigi inimestega, kes on selle üle oma muret avaldanud," rõhutas ta.
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34 pilti
Reformierakonna ja IRL-i saadikud Autor/allikas Siim Lõvi/ERR
Seletuskiri riigikogu otsuse umbusaldus justiitsminister Urmas Reinsalule eelnõu juurde:
Avaldame umbusaldust justiitsminister Urmas Reinsalule.
Meie algatuse vahetu põhjus on seisukohavõtt "mõistsin naiste vastase vägivalla hukka, kuid nüüd, tänase kirja valguses, lausa kahetsen seda avaldust".
Justiitsminister vastutab vägivalla vähendamise eest ja ei saa kahetseda, et on sõna võtnud vägivalla vastu. Ta ei saa ka olla ühiskonnale ja paljudele isiklikult nii valusal teemal halvustav avalike sõnavõttude suhtes. Ja ta ei saa avaliku pahameele peale arvata, et kellelegi haiget ei teinud. Vägivalla vastase võitluses on sõna tähtis relv ja justiitsministri sõna on erilise kaaluga sest, et kujundab ka õiguspoliitikat.
Kriitika nii opositsiooni, koalitsiooni kui avalikkuse poolt peaks Eesti poliitiline kultuuri juures tähendama vabatahtlikku tagasiastumist. Kuna seda ei juhtunud, peame vajalikuks väljendada oma umbusku Urmas Reinsalu suhtes konkreetsest juhtumist laiemalt ja see puudutab ka tema pikemaajalist tegevust. Me otsustasime jätta selle arutada riigikogu täiskogule, kuna nagu koalitsioonis, ei lange ka umbusaldajate seas hinnangud igale poliitilistele valikule, sealhulgas Urmas Reinsalu omadele, täiesti kokku. Kuid me oleme ühel meelel, et selguse ja korra loomise asemel on ta segaduse tekitaja ning ei põrku tagasi ka Eesti õigusliku järjepidevuse murendamisest.
https://www.err.ee/677018/reinsalu-jatkab-justiitsministrina-umbusaldamine-kukkus-labi
https://www.err.ee/677018/reinsalu-jatkab-justiitsministrina-umbusaldamine-kukkus-labi
24 January 2018 19:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
24 January 2018 19:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kommunismi ja satanismi üle võit ja kritlikud taimed uuesti tulevad esile:
"Veel enam, kanepitaime kasutamise ja kasvatamisega on Kanepi vald otseselt ka seotud. Vallavanem teatas, et Kanepis kasvatatakse kultuurkanepit küll ja vallas toodetakse ka kanepiõli.
Kanepitaime kasutamine sümboolikana ei ole kohalike elanike jaoks mitte midagi uut. Kanepi Laulu Selts käis oma asutamise aastal 1869. aastal esimesel üldlaulupeol lipuga, mille peal on kujutatud kanepivihku. Alates 1950-ndatest oli kasutusel küll ilma vihuta variant, kuid kaks aastat tagasi tehti oiriginaallipust täpne koopia ja algupärane kujundus on taas Kanepi Laulu Seltsi ametlikul lipul."
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Kanepi valla vapi ja sümboolika valimine algas Kanepi valla kodulehel 22. jaanuaril ning kestab veel 4. veebruarini. Konkursile laekus esialgu 23 tööd. Konkursikomisjon koosseisus Urmas Kivirand, Kadri Mõttus, Andrus Seeme, Elen Heidok, Krista Varul, Mati Karmin, Kerli Koor ja Eva Raup valis välja ja esitas rahva lemmiku valimiseks seitse konkursitööd. Enne vapi või lipu kehtestamist küsitakse nõuete kohaselt ka riigikantselei arvamust.
"Veel enam, kanepitaime kasutamise ja kasvatamisega on Kanepi vald otseselt ka seotud. Vallavanem teatas, et Kanepis kasvatatakse kultuurkanepit küll ja vallas toodetakse ka kanepiõli.
Kanepitaime kasutamine sümboolikana ei ole kohalike elanike jaoks mitte midagi uut. Kanepi Laulu Selts käis oma asutamise aastal 1869. aastal esimesel üldlaulupeol lipuga, mille peal on kujutatud kanepivihku. Alates 1950-ndatest oli kasutusel küll ilma vihuta variant, kuid kaks aastat tagasi tehti oiriginaallipust täpne koopia ja algupärane kujundus on taas Kanepi Laulu Seltsi ametlikul lipul."
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Kanepi valla vapi ja sümboolika valimine algas Kanepi valla kodulehel 22. jaanuaril ning kestab veel 4. veebruarini. Konkursile laekus esialgu 23 tööd. Konkursikomisjon koosseisus Urmas Kivirand, Kadri Mõttus, Andrus Seeme, Elen Heidok, Krista Varul, Mati Karmin, Kerli Koor ja Eva Raup valis välja ja esitas rahva lemmiku valimiseks seitse konkursitööd. Enne vapi või lipu kehtestamist küsitakse nõuete kohaselt ka riigikantselei arvamust.
24 January 2018 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kanepi Seeme :
Vallavanem (Seeme) ei pea kanepilehte halvaks valikuks
Töö autor on kavandit tutvustanud sõnadega: “Silm näeb seda, mida kõrv kuuleb. Kujund on kasutusel olnud juba 150 aastat”.
Seeme arvates on tähelepanu tore ja Kanepil oligi aeg rohkem silma paista.
“Kui selline on rahva tahtmine ja ka komisjon selle heaks kiidab, siis minul ei oleks selle vastu midagi. Vapp on vapp,” ütles Kanepi vallavanem Andrus Seeme esialgu. Konkursikomisjoni liikmed ei osanud oodata, et uue vapi valimine üleüldse nii palju tähelepanu ja kõlapinda saab, kuid Seeme arvates on see tore ja Kanepil oligi aeg rohkem silma paista.
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Vallavanem (Seeme) ei pea kanepilehte halvaks valikuks
Töö autor on kavandit tutvustanud sõnadega: “Silm näeb seda, mida kõrv kuuleb. Kujund on kasutusel olnud juba 150 aastat”.
Seeme arvates on tähelepanu tore ja Kanepil oligi aeg rohkem silma paista.
“Kui selline on rahva tahtmine ja ka komisjon selle heaks kiidab, siis minul ei oleks selle vastu midagi. Vapp on vapp,” ütles Kanepi vallavanem Andrus Seeme esialgu. Konkursikomisjoni liikmed ei osanud oodata, et uue vapi valimine üleüldse nii palju tähelepanu ja kõlapinda saab, kuid Seeme arvates on see tore ja Kanepil oligi aeg rohkem silma paista.
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24 January 2018 19:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kas naistevastse vägivalla ohvrite kaitse on riigile oluline?
Koos: Riigikogu lähisuhtevägivalla ennetamise ja ohvrite toetusrühma esimees Liina Kersna'ga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg0-HyL13pc
Koos: Riigikogu lähisuhtevägivalla ennetamise ja ohvrite toetusrühma esimees Liina Kersna'ga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg0-HyL13pc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg0-HyL13pc
24 January 2018 19:05
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
On ikka vastased..., umbusaldust naissoosolvamise osas teha inimese pihta,
kes oma positisiooni tugevuselt meie riigi ajaloos vist ainukesena nii võimekalt Naistekaitse teemad on ülesse võtnud, 2015 "Seadusemuudatused naiste väärikuse kaitseks" :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMKU4__Uh98
Naisteliini kanalilt
kes oma positisiooni tugevuselt meie riigi ajaloos vist ainukesena nii võimekalt Naistekaitse teemad on ülesse võtnud, 2015 "Seadusemuudatused naiste väärikuse kaitseks" :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMKU4__Uh98
Naisteliini kanalilt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMKU4__Uh98
24 January 2018 19:05
Margus Meigo replied to Sven-Erik Tomson's comment.
Tarmo Kruusimäe tuleta oppos.nile meelde, et alkohol on depresant, keemiliselt-medit.liselt ehk ta tegelikult tekitab depresiooni lõppkokkuvõttes ka.
"Alcohol is a depressant, which means it can disrupt that balance, affecting our thoughts, feelings and actions – and sometimes our long-term mental health." https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/you-illuminated/201006/your-brain-alcohol
Et kui kombineerida kaotus, depresioon ja depresandid.
"Alcohol is a depressant, which means it can disrupt that balance, affecting our thoughts, feelings and actions – and sometimes our long-term mental health." https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/you-illuminated/201006/your-brain-alcohol
Et kui kombineerida kaotus, depresioon ja depresandid.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/you-illuminated/201006/your-brain-alcohol
24 January 2018 18:37
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
näe, ikka Sinuni ka jõudis
24 January 2018 18:29
Margus Meigo replied to Mati Meie's comment.
muidu saad panna "edit" ja siis need kommentaarid kus eraldi mõtet ja vastust pole, need saab ühte sõnumisse tõsta, siis kergem lugeda
ja muidu ka postitades, muidu liiga palju vastuse märkeid tuleb teiste ekraanile iga Su lausega (nagu uus tarkus oleks),
Saad sedasiteha, et kirjutad, ja siis selle "Replay/Vasta" nupule oma lause alla kirjutad, siis parem ka , õhes koos
ja muidu ka postitades, muidu liiga palju vastuse märkeid tuleb teiste ekraanile iga Su lausega (nagu uus tarkus oleks),
Saad sedasiteha, et kirjutad, ja siis selle "Replay/Vasta" nupule oma lause alla kirjutad, siis parem ka , õhes koos
24 January 2018 12:21
Margus Meigo replied to Mati Meie's comment.
mitte sõnavabadus pole oluline vaid headuse ja õiguse nõue sõnades mida väljendatakse
24 January 2018 11:54
Margus Meigo replied to Mati Meie's comment.
Jüri Vlassov II aga hakkame ette planeerima, millega võidakse rünnata välisluure poolt ja mis oleks kaitseelemendid ?
Ja kas anname eestlastele pasunasse kes selle punakampaaniaga kaasa lähevad või õpetame õpetust?
Nu pasunasse ikka mõistuse piires
Ja kas anname eestlastele pasunasse kes selle punakampaaniaga kaasa lähevad või õpetame õpetust?
Nu pasunasse ikka mõistuse piires
24 January 2018 11:53
Margus Meigo replied to Janno Ka's comment.
ah, tühja see,
Kuid Mida head muidu rääkida soovisid ?
Kuid Mida head muidu rääkida soovisid ?
24 January 2018 11:51
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek Illus's comment.
nagu Allah ütles "Ja neil oli meie osas plaan, ja meil oli nende plaani osas plaan"
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Kuigi ,ka EKRE listis päris tasemel luure mehi paari kaliibrit, for real
//nii tarkvara kui riistvara poolt
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Mõistli koleks omavahel läbi saada
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Eesti põhivalituse vastu joosta on sama mõistli kui ameerika, õigust ja võitu siin ei saa. Kuid kahju saavad paljud ja häbisse jäävad paljud. Ja kahetsevad paljud. Kuid kõigeenam, kõige rohkem ,kannatavad paljud
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Kuigi ,ka EKRE listis päris tasemel luure mehi paari kaliibrit, for real
//nii tarkvara kui riistvara poolt
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Mõistli koleks omavahel läbi saada
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Eesti põhivalituse vastu joosta on sama mõistli kui ameerika, õigust ja võitu siin ei saa. Kuid kahju saavad paljud ja häbisse jäävad paljud. Ja kahetsevad paljud. Kuid kõigeenam, kõige rohkem ,kannatavad paljud
24 January 2018 11:41
Margus Meigo replied to Janno Ka's comment.
Janno Ka tee refresh nüüd ja loe uuesti, kas muutus selgemaks, ja listi võid ka anda ikkagi,
oot tegelikult võib vist avalikult ka ilusti küsida, nüüd avalikumad ajastud ja crowd solutions tulevad kiiremini, kuigi koopia ka praktilisse kohta saadaks ma lisaks, kindluse mõttes, avalikult + tegu
oot tegelikult võib vist avalikult ka ilusti küsida, nüüd avalikumad ajastud ja crowd solutions tulevad kiiremini, kuigi koopia ka praktilisse kohta saadaks ma lisaks, kindluse mõttes, avalikult + tegu
24 January 2018 11:40
Margus Meigo replied to Janno Ka's comment.
Janno Ka Tubli ,hakkab juba tulema, kuig, asjalikku kriitikat, mis aitab, tuleks ka jagad,a kuid suuremad mured privaatselt enne kurta, arutuseks
//kuigi ka privaatsest soovitame teha alati ka paar koopiat ja üks pool varjatult avalikult üles panna, juhuks kui ära notitakse või jutub, ununeb, et siis oleks tõestusmaterial üleval ja olemas, et juhuks kui kellegiga räägid, kes juba ajutiselt jälle ülevõetud.. .aegajalt peab käima inimesi uuesti mulda istutamas.. u know..
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Sest kust Sa muidu tead, pasundad suurelt ja sis samal ajal päris tegijad juba ammu lahenduste tarvis 3x kohal käinud ja plaanid paigas, siis oled teadjate silmis arust ja ajast maha jäänud ju, kui pole kursis mis probleemid kuidas lahendada plaanitud ja millal, ja mida märgatud juba
//kuigi ka privaatsest soovitame teha alati ka paar koopiat ja üks pool varjatult avalikult üles panna, juhuks kui ära notitakse või jutub, ununeb, et siis oleks tõestusmaterial üleval ja olemas, et juhuks kui kellegiga räägid, kes juba ajutiselt jälle ülevõetud.. .aegajalt peab käima inimesi uuesti mulda istutamas.. u know..
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Sest kust Sa muidu tead, pasundad suurelt ja sis samal ajal päris tegijad juba ammu lahenduste tarvis 3x kohal käinud ja plaanid paigas, siis oled teadjate silmis arust ja ajast maha jäänud ju, kui pole kursis mis probleemid kuidas lahendada plaanitud ja millal, ja mida märgatud juba
24 January 2018 11:35
Margus Meigo replied to Mati Meie's comment.
eks ikka meeskonda ka tuleb vaadata, et mida need targad ja ilusad inimesed siis pundis oma tarksuega peale hakata plaanisid ja plaanivad ja kas see ehk edasi arendatav
lõpp peab olema selline nagu algsel testamendil
lõpp peab olema selline nagu algsel testamendil
24 January 2018 11:30
Margus Meigo replied to Mati Meie's comment.
Kas Sa tead Sellele hästi, sama head lahendust nagu mina ?
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Kui mitu aastat kellegi aktsioon võtaks ja mis summasi võib ju ka lisaks arvutada, kuid mis kindlalt toimiks ,see on oluline kirja saada
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Aga seda lahendust saab ju pakkuda siis kas korruptiivsetele või mitte, need korrupeerivad ju äää selle .. seega.. anna mulle nimed siis kes ausad ja lahked tegema mida vaja ?
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Sina listis(oleksid, kui suure toetusesumma või millise toega) ja kes veel?
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Kui mitu aastat kellegi aktsioon võtaks ja mis summasi võib ju ka lisaks arvutada, kuid mis kindlalt toimiks ,see on oluline kirja saada
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Aga seda lahendust saab ju pakkuda siis kas korruptiivsetele või mitte, need korrupeerivad ju äää selle .. seega.. anna mulle nimed siis kes ausad ja lahked tegema mida vaja ?
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Sina listis(oleksid, kui suure toetusesumma või millise toega) ja kes veel?
24 January 2018 11:26
Margus Meigo replied to Willu Veel's comment.
Janno Ka küll me välja mõtleme, miks see hea ja vajalik on olnud ja kuidas see Eestile kasulik ja maailma mastaabis humaane on, mis tehtud ja tehakse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpr11cwHoCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpr11cwHoCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpr11cwHoCE
24 January 2018 11:25
Margus Meigo replied to Tarmo Kuusik's comment.
mitte siis kui õiged lõpuks võimule saavad ja selle Demokraatia totruse lopetavad
24 January 2018 11:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ai,, Jaak Madison pole siin, ehk Jaak Vackermann seniks?
Kas keegi on isamaalisem veel, keegi kui algusest üles ehitada ja taastada sisemuse parim potensiaal, siis kes see olla saaks veel kui ISAMAA ... LIIT?
Kas keegi on isamaalisem veel, keegi kui algusest üles ehitada ja taastada sisemuse parim potensiaal, siis kes see olla saaks veel kui ISAMAA ... LIIT?
24 January 2018 11:21
Margus Meigo replied to Mati Meie's comment.
Tarmo Kuusik kanepit vaja Sul, see näitab lisa lahendusi, postiivseid oletuslikkegi ja reealseid paraleel võimalusi, mis ka sõidavad, reaalsuses edasi, ja misk siis ahendada oma valikuid valikutele mis minimaseerivad potensiaali arenguks mis vabaduse ja rahu, puhtuse ja õigluse suunaline selliselt, et õnnest vanavanematel südame põksuma paneks
24 January 2018 11:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kas on veel isamaalisemaid olemas?
24 January 2018 11:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Janno Ka Isamaliit on see, mis ainuke saab olla, isamaa jaoks!
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Mitte mingid eraldisesvad parteid ja konnad )(
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Mitte mingid eraldisesvad parteid ja konnad )(
24 January 2018 11:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jaak Madison kuule kas Sa selle prügikasti juba said pandu, või keelas uus valitsus teil selle sinna panna ?
24 January 2018 11:14
Margus Meigo replied to Mati Meie's comment.
see ongi haiglane, et ma ka kunagi pole saanud ja lihtsalt harvadel juhtudel kui üldse sooviks, kuid siis kirjutatakse ette, mis maakonnas, olenemata kas elan sääl viimase veerand sajandit reaalselt, et mille piirkonna tegelasi saan või pean valima ja kelle de vahel,
üldiselt osade asjade puhul peaks saama kust iganes, isegi kui see oht, et siis narva ühtselt hääletab
üldiselt osade asjade puhul peaks saama kust iganes, isegi kui see oht, et siis narva ühtselt hääletab
24 January 2018 11:13
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Mul toast vanainimene, ütles, elumees "EKRE - need puhta hullud : alati kõigele vastu nad ju! Ükskõik mis on, nu nii eisaa ju olla! Mõelgu peaga"
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kuigi, aga see tort suht hea oli, mida ta pere küpsetas ja peaaegu viisakat lootust tuli sel kohtumisel, kuid siis mingi laiali ja...
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kuigi, aga see tort suht hea oli, mida ta pere küpsetas ja peaaegu viisakat lootust tuli sel kohtumisel, kuid siis mingi laiali ja...
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24 January 2018 11:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i my self did not join the revolution as am not sure about feelings, is it plan to eventually crash the finance (by unseen fluke like Y2K bug or some new green regulation) or will it be replacing the ordinary finance & robotize us whiteout sucking world empty of energy , them also told it is from aliens so they can buy back planet (or surrender us under supreme money) when time is right but this theory i will leave for now :p
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/bitcoins-insane-energy-consumption-explained/
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/21/no-bitcoin-is-likely-not-going-to-consume-all-the-worlds-energy-in-2020.html
Usual thing we must know advance what will happen if 1/3 or more world riches will inject all their money in to bitcoin, theoretically.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/bitcoins-insane-energy-consumption-explained/
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/21/no-bitcoin-is-likely-not-going-to-consume-all-the-worlds-energy-in-2020.html
Usual thing we must know advance what will happen if 1/3 or more world riches will inject all their money in to bitcoin, theoretically.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/bitcoins-insane-energy-consumption-explained/
24 January 2018 07:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
also bitcoin after all is mined out, have another side that will activate but have not access to this information (in my mind) right now.
First Amir wanted to send me on this interview, good he went: http://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-26038200/bitcoin-developer-amir-taaki-on-the-ideology-behind-the-virtual-currency
First Amir wanted to send me on this interview, good he went: http://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-26038200/bitcoin-developer-amir-taaki-on-the-ideology-behind-the-virtual-currency
http://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-26038200/bitcoin-developer-amir-taaki-on-the-ideology-behind-the-virtual-currency
24 January 2018 07:20
Margus Meigo commented on Reichart VW's post.
Not much to contribute on thread, but perhaps few new thoughts in links for some:
5+ year's ago when talked with underground with enthusiasts who fly to bit conference in UK, most failed to understand that there is many more methods for powers to be to stop the progress of bitcoin or any other finance that do not obey.
Like EU proved by threatening with moneylender if anyone dares from big biz to start using this. But even more magical and dark methods.
But for sure, gov them self, have been planning all that crypto money as well... from early 90's
Just wonder, how CenterBank feels about it eventually. And systems dependent of tax.
90s:
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/2015/04/tatsuaki-okamoto.html
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/2015/05/kazuo-ohta.html
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Centerbank:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-15/what-the-world-s-central-banks-are-saying-about-cryptocurrencies
https://ripple.com/insights/ripple-hosts-worlds-central-banks-to-explore-next-generation-of-payments/
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Vatican
https://web.archive.org/web/20170313182114/http://www.news.va/en/news/full-text-note-on-financial-reform-from-the-pontif
https://uk.reuters.com/article/vatican-economy/update-2-vatican-urges-economic-reforms-condemns-collective-greed-idUKL5E7LO1LS20111024
+ on streets these times, Russian side already talked about method of them can make system that invents bitcoin like money from thin air and share it on global accounts of new citizens. Who knows what agents get's pay'd first.
5+ year's ago when talked with underground with enthusiasts who fly to bit conference in UK, most failed to understand that there is many more methods for powers to be to stop the progress of bitcoin or any other finance that do not obey.
Like EU proved by threatening with moneylender if anyone dares from big biz to start using this. But even more magical and dark methods.
But for sure, gov them self, have been planning all that crypto money as well... from early 90's
Just wonder, how CenterBank feels about it eventually. And systems dependent of tax.
90s:
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/2015/04/tatsuaki-okamoto.html
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/2015/05/kazuo-ohta.html
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Centerbank:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-15/what-the-world-s-central-banks-are-saying-about-cryptocurrencies
https://ripple.com/insights/ripple-hosts-worlds-central-banks-to-explore-next-generation-of-payments/
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Vatican
https://web.archive.org/web/20170313182114/http://www.news.va/en/news/full-text-note-on-financial-reform-from-the-pontif
https://uk.reuters.com/article/vatican-economy/update-2-vatican-urges-economic-reforms-condemns-collective-greed-idUKL5E7LO1LS20111024
+ on streets these times, Russian side already talked about method of them can make system that invents bitcoin like money from thin air and share it on global accounts of new citizens. Who knows what agents get's pay'd first.
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/2015/04/tatsuaki-okamoto.html
24 January 2018 07:15
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
St sama kommentaar oli.. ja vastasin.. ja nüüd neid pole siin
Kuid yeah..riik on ikkagi rahuorgan
Kuid yeah..riik on ikkagi rahuorgan
24 January 2018 03:49
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
Oot kas ma eile vastasin Sulle onja juba?
Mõtlen kuidas kogu mu kommentaarid kustunud said..
Mõtlen kuidas kogu mu kommentaarid kustunud said..
24 January 2018 03:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ühesõnaga pole sedatüüpi inimene kes mahalugemist soovitaks
24 January 2018 03:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hall Kardinal : )
.. muidugi lips on vaja eemaldada.. kõriümbert, see kohmakas ülikonna riietus Eesti meelsetele ikka eip sobi.. jätab välistöö mulje, ikka vallutajate riie ju, kuigi vest juba samm paremuse poole.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ctfne1Dj0w
.. muidugi lips on vaja eemaldada.. kõriümbert, see kohmakas ülikonna riietus Eesti meelsetele ikka eip sobi.. jätab välistöö mulje, ikka vallutajate riie ju, kuigi vest juba samm paremuse poole.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ctfne1Dj0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ctfne1Dj0w
24 January 2018 03:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kas naistevastse vägivalla ohvrite kaitse on riigile oluline?
Riigikogu lähisuhtevägivalla ennetamise ja ohvrite toetusrühma esimees Liina Kersna Liina Kersna, Andres Anvelt, Sotsiaalkaitseminister Margus Tsahkna, Justiitsminister Urmas Reinsalu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg0-HyL13pc
Riigikogu lähisuhtevägivalla ennetamise ja ohvrite toetusrühma esimees Liina Kersna Liina Kersna, Andres Anvelt, Sotsiaalkaitseminister Margus Tsahkna, Justiitsminister Urmas Reinsalu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg0-HyL13pc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg0-HyL13pc
24 January 2018 03:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.facebook.com/pealtnagija/posts/1040703389316658
Mingi selline jutt Pealtnägijal:
"kui Triin Tulev peksmise loos nägi meedia pooltoone ja õigustusi, siis selles loos mõisteti teatritegelane ilma reservatsioonideta hukka, ehkki kõiki fakte teavad vähesed ja Ojasoo ise kahetses siiralt tehtut. Väga halb, et Ojasoo vägivalda kasutas, ja väga kurb, et andekad inimesed nagu NO teater sellise skandaali sisse sattusid"
Kommentaarid muidu päris ..:
" Olev : " Mina aga näen antud loos vaid poliitikute ärategemist ja kättemaksu. Liiga teravaks pinnuks on teater No 99 olnud poliitikute silmas. Kui sama loogika järgi peaksid kõik naistepeksjad tagasi astuma või oma ametikohast loobuma, siis kuidas see pilt küll välja hakkaks nägema. Loomulikult ei õigusta ma siinkohal perevägivalda, kuid..."
// et siis ei peaks tagasi astuma kõik naistepeksjad või ?? Mis ühiskond/ajastu see selline on kus taolisi asju mis olev ütles isegi öelda saab...
" Evelyn Suvinõmm Huvitav, kuidas saab vägivald naisterahva vastu olla poliitiline, fakt on ju see et peksmine toimus, kas see oli poliitiline peks, et vastutuse võtmine keeratakse poliitiliseks "
Mingi selline jutt Pealtnägijal:
"kui Triin Tulev peksmise loos nägi meedia pooltoone ja õigustusi, siis selles loos mõisteti teatritegelane ilma reservatsioonideta hukka, ehkki kõiki fakte teavad vähesed ja Ojasoo ise kahetses siiralt tehtut. Väga halb, et Ojasoo vägivalda kasutas, ja väga kurb, et andekad inimesed nagu NO teater sellise skandaali sisse sattusid"
Kommentaarid muidu päris ..:
" Olev : " Mina aga näen antud loos vaid poliitikute ärategemist ja kättemaksu. Liiga teravaks pinnuks on teater No 99 olnud poliitikute silmas. Kui sama loogika järgi peaksid kõik naistepeksjad tagasi astuma või oma ametikohast loobuma, siis kuidas see pilt küll välja hakkaks nägema. Loomulikult ei õigusta ma siinkohal perevägivalda, kuid..."
// et siis ei peaks tagasi astuma kõik naistepeksjad või ?? Mis ühiskond/ajastu see selline on kus taolisi asju mis olev ütles isegi öelda saab...
" Evelyn Suvinõmm Huvitav, kuidas saab vägivald naisterahva vastu olla poliitiline, fakt on ju see et peksmine toimus, kas see oli poliitiline peks, et vastutuse võtmine keeratakse poliitiliseks "
24 January 2018 03:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid mitte temast me ei tahtnud rääkida..
24 January 2018 03:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Emerson's religious views were often considered radical at the time. He believed that all things are connected to God and, therefore, all things are divine. Critics believed that Emerson was removing the central God figure; as Henry Ware Jr. said, Emerson was in danger of taking away "the Father of the Universe" and leaving "but a company of children in an orphan asylum". Emerson was partly influenced by German philosophy and Biblical criticism. His views, the basis of Transcendentalism, suggested that God does not have to reveal the truth but that the truth could be intuitively experienced directly from nature. When asked his religious belief, Emerson stated, "I am more of a Quaker than anything else. I believe in the 'still, small voice,' and that voice is Christ within us."
24 January 2018 03:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
detaile vaadates, : juukstelõige, mustuses oelmine kuid endiselt meikupi pealepanemine: punasealgega luuure
+ muud patud mis sellega kaasnevad
+ muud patud mis sellega kaasnevad
23 January 2018 23:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Asjakohane film TV3
https://www.kava.ee/saade/308971110
https://www.kava.ee/saade/308971110
https://www.kava.ee/saade/308971110
23 January 2018 23:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja see kes looduse poolt valge juba... nu mis ta oma justega sinna otsa rikkuma pidi...
23 January 2018 22:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mingi vanakommar ütleb, et "asi on selles kuidas ühiskond reageerib ühsikonna peksu" ei... asi on selle, MIS ASI ON naiserünnak,
Mitte pole oluline, kas reageeritakse või mitte.
Olenemata sellest kas reageeritakse, tegu olemuselt tuleb ikka samamoodi arusaada.
Ainukesed vabandused on kui viamud üle võtsid ja siis tunnistatakse mis moodi inimene muu maise organisatsiooni taga, orjuses oli.. kui maiseid ei taha süüdistada, siis võtku vaimsed.
Mitte pole oluline, kas reageeritakse või mitte.
Olenemata sellest kas reageeritakse, tegu olemuselt tuleb ikka samamoodi arusaada.
Ainukesed vabandused on kui viamud üle võtsid ja siis tunnistatakse mis moodi inimene muu maise organisatsiooni taga, orjuses oli.. kui maiseid ei taha süüdistada, siis võtku vaimsed.
23 January 2018 22:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Punases särgis mees sai nüüd solvatud, siiralt, sest talle energeetiline rünnak otse eetris tehti, piitsa anti, kuidas seee... lubatud eks..
23 January 2018 22:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siis see naine oma osa teeb mida ta rääkima pidi,
et tekitada seina selle vahele, nagu Venemaa tagused jõud poelksi need ainuisikuliselt kes Trumbi ideega, eisle tuleb
et tekitada seina selle vahele, nagu Venemaa tagused jõud poelksi need ainuisikuliselt kes Trumbi ideega, eisle tuleb
23 January 2018 22:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Trump on küll tase kuid Number üks poliitik on ikka mu arvates Putin"
Umbes sellised laused..
Ja siis nagu unsutatakse mianida, mis moodi Venemaa strateegia oli USAd valitseda
...
ja siis nagu Jaak Madison veel auväärsete Clintoni halba valgusesse panek...
Umbes sellised laused..
Ja siis nagu unsutatakse mianida, mis moodi Venemaa strateegia oli USAd valitseda
...
ja siis nagu Jaak Madison veel auväärsete Clintoni halba valgusesse panek...
23 January 2018 22:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
punases kampsunis jälle tark ütles "see ei oel lolli inimese temp"
TEMP
//.
// See nNaine muidugi asus jälle aladele.. rääkima mis pole tema ala... see naine sinna nende saatejuhtide poolt naugnii pandud, sellepärast, et ta on naine
// Siis see vanakomamr veel selgitas nende oelndite sisu välja, kuidas neil vaja kaootilisust, et elueenergiat saada
TEMP
//.
// See nNaine muidugi asus jälle aladele.. rääkima mis pole tema ala... see naine sinna nende saatejuhtide poolt naugnii pandud, sellepärast, et ta on naine
// Siis see vanakomamr veel selgitas nende oelndite sisu välja, kuidas neil vaja kaootilisust, et elueenergiat saada
23 January 2018 22:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hea, et eestikeele kohta saladusegi
välja rääkisid...
et veel inimesi kes eesikeelesi teab.... .
ja su ennustus.. .. mis number enne kurjanumbrit aastatarvuna katkes... kui Sa arad, et see võim mille ohver oled ja mis sind rääkima pani,
suudaks ka teisesamaasuguse ajajooksul kui meid teatakse, siit kustutada.. peidetult või mitte.. siis sa ikka kulla mees..
välja rääkisid...
et veel inimesi kes eesikeelesi teab.... .
ja su ennustus.. .. mis number enne kurjanumbrit aastatarvuna katkes... kui Sa arad, et see võim mille ohver oled ja mis sind rääkima pani,
suudaks ka teisesamaasuguse ajajooksul kui meid teatakse, siit kustutada.. peidetult või mitte.. siis sa ikka kulla mees..
23 January 2018 21:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sa niitark küll, et arusaad mis öeldame Sulle, kui soovid ..tahta...
Mis mõttes.. ülesid nüüd ainukesele normalsele inimesele TTV's.. et "ära proovi eestlast solvata"
SINA oled lipsuga ... ja tuled lipsuta eesti DNA mehele ütlema, et ta Solvaks Eestlust??
Ära sedasi ärple professor
Mis mõttes.. ülesid nüüd ainukesele normalsele inimesele TTV's.. et "ära proovi eestlast solvata"
SINA oled lipsuga ... ja tuled lipsuta eesti DNA mehele ütlema, et ta Solvaks Eestlust??
Ära sedasi ärple professor
23 January 2018 21:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tahad eesti jätta kolkaks, ????
Ütlesid.. ära vabanda välja, et "heas mõttes" sa ilmselgelt, meelega tõid näiteid ka mis arengus oled.. .
Ja ise kannad lipsu samal ajal, ja me peaks uskuma.. et "kolkaks" tahad jätta?
Nu nii sellist klounilikku vaheljäämist ämbriastumist, ikka teha, kas Sul julgust või arukusepuudust, või arukust sellise teatri ja show ja väljapääsu üleshoidmiseks, kas Sul jätkub ?
Ütlesid.. ära vabanda välja, et "heas mõttes" sa ilmselgelt, meelega tõid näiteid ka mis arengus oled.. .
Ja ise kannad lipsu samal ajal, ja me peaks uskuma.. et "kolkaks" tahad jätta?
Nu nii sellist klounilikku vaheljäämist ämbriastumist, ikka teha, kas Sul julgust või arukusepuudust, või arukust sellise teatri ja show ja väljapääsu üleshoidmiseks, kas Sul jätkub ?
23 January 2018 21:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
NB.. .
Nu nüüd hakkad gramaaatika osas ka veel jahuma
Nu nüüd hakkad gramaaatika osas ka veel jahuma
23 January 2018 21:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kas Sa arvad, et Sots erakonna Nais Merkli ideaal,
to Naine peab töötama praegu veel aktiivselt Kommarite jaoks kuigi ta kahjuks näeb juba vanaema armastusena... kus sooviks rahvast armastada, aga ta näeb, et nad IKKA EI SAA aru, et mis positsioonis ta on ja olema peab,
või arvad, et ta vabatahtlikus äravõetult teadmatuses teeb oma perekonna vanade soovide kohaselt suundasi mis mingi muu ideaali poole tõuseb kui Eestluse kogumaailmale selgeks tegemine?
Sa ikka ise saad aru, mis asi Eestlus on eks, et see kogu maailmale selgitatav kõigile normaalsetele nõustutav ideoloogia tänapäeva keeles ...
// "piirid kaovad ja globaliseerimine ... need kõik on objektiivsed dendentsid" ... nu mis kaovad... Mis US plaan selle hoidmiseks on ? Mis sa seda "arenguks" nimetasid ?
Eesti vastu tuleb .. sellise argnugtekkel jah kogu maailm, ku isa eeldad, et teistes riikides saab olema ideoloogia kes sellist asja "arenguks heas mõttes" nimetab
// mis sa arvad arulagedalt, et me ei suuda mud ku iaeglustada?
Ennustad eesikeele kadumisest? Mis professor sa oled? Viimased juuuksed kaotanud v?
to Naine peab töötama praegu veel aktiivselt Kommarite jaoks kuigi ta kahjuks näeb juba vanaema armastusena... kus sooviks rahvast armastada, aga ta näeb, et nad IKKA EI SAA aru, et mis positsioonis ta on ja olema peab,
või arvad, et ta vabatahtlikus äravõetult teadmatuses teeb oma perekonna vanade soovide kohaselt suundasi mis mingi muu ideaali poole tõuseb kui Eestluse kogumaailmale selgeks tegemine?
Sa ikka ise saad aru, mis asi Eestlus on eks, et see kogu maailmale selgitatav kõigile normaalsetele nõustutav ideoloogia tänapäeva keeles ...
// "piirid kaovad ja globaliseerimine ... need kõik on objektiivsed dendentsid" ... nu mis kaovad... Mis US plaan selle hoidmiseks on ? Mis sa seda "arenguks" nimetasid ?
Eesti vastu tuleb .. sellise argnugtekkel jah kogu maailm, ku isa eeldad, et teistes riikides saab olema ideoloogia kes sellist asja "arenguks heas mõttes" nimetab
// mis sa arvad arulagedalt, et me ei suuda mud ku iaeglustada?
Ennustad eesikeele kadumisest? Mis professor sa oled? Viimased juuuksed kaotanud v?
23 January 2018 21:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
23 January 2018 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuig parasjägu ise olin juba ing maal
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580
23 January 2018 21:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ka mul oli võimalus selle rev ühe sisemikuga liituda
(sellised kes juba inimestele maad ja majad, koos haigla süsteemidega organiseerinud, rääkimata muust)
kuid nagu ei kiskunud sinna, kuigi oleks pidnaud ... oli võimalus ühe bitcoini sisemiku inimestega sinna minna ja ..
ah missest rääkida
(sellised kes juba inimestele maad ja majad, koos haigla süsteemidega organiseerinud, rääkimata muust)
kuid nagu ei kiskunud sinna, kuigi oleks pidnaud ... oli võimalus ühe bitcoini sisemiku inimestega sinna minna ja ..
ah missest rääkida
23 January 2018 21:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu eks nagu jah, see peakaotust nad need kes said inimese inge üle võtnud ka inimesele endale tahtmatult ironiseerivad läbi erinevate lükete, mäletate selle kaitseministri "panen pea panti" (mis saab olla lubatud tektitatud reaalsest geizhist )
// muidugi see kräsin vist ise pole arusaanutki, kalaoonia KOMMUNISTLIKU revolutsiooni värk.. kus paraleelselt kommunistid, tewgid seda, mis võtaks kohalikult õiguse
// muidugi see kräsin vist ise pole arusaanutki, kalaoonia KOMMUNISTLIKU revolutsiooni värk.. kus paraleelselt kommunistid, tewgid seda, mis võtaks kohalikult õiguse
23 January 2018 21:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tahaks näha kuidas see Krääsin muidab ja filsofeeri kui ta panna mõne neegrimaa peale suur neegrite gänksterite ja nende maa alade töömeeste keskele.
Huvitav oleks näha seda lõuavärinat.
Mina ise olen mitmel eri maal, mitmes eri teemas, mitemsuguste värvides , olekutes ja jõududega kembelnud, õiendanud ja sõbrustanud,
tean suht kindlalt, et lipsumehed hakkaksid enamasti peagi nutma
Huvitav oleks näha seda lõuavärinat.
Mina ise olen mitmel eri maal, mitmes eri teemas, mitemsuguste värvides , olekutes ja jõududega kembelnud, õiendanud ja sõbrustanud,
tean suht kindlalt, et lipsumehed hakkaksid enamasti peagi nutma
23 January 2018 21:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja tuua EKRE si ja Kristlasi ainukesena välja, nagu väärtuslikud, ja "normaalseid inimesi" on suht ... suht kahtlane lüke, küsimus on, kas EKRE lased on kristlased?
Ja kui nad ei ole mis moodi nad siis üleimate väärtuste osas saavad olla väärtuslikud ?
Euroopalikud väärtused on väga lihtsad, Euroopa, kui Naistsoost organ, Taurus,
sis meie väärtused on : Naiselikus, vägivallatus, töökus, (dzentelmennilikus, kuninglikus), puhtus ja Looduslikus võiks muidugi suuremal määral olla, kuid see alles arenemisel
Ja kui nad ei ole mis moodi nad siis üleimate väärtuste osas saavad olla väärtuslikud ?
Euroopalikud väärtused on väga lihtsad, Euroopa, kui Naistsoost organ, Taurus,
sis meie väärtused on : Naiselikus, vägivallatus, töökus, (dzentelmennilikus, kuninglikus), puhtus ja Looduslikus võiks muidugi suuremal määral olla, kuid see alles arenemisel
23 January 2018 21:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Krääsini sõnad: "väärtus on see milleeest sõdur läheb surma"
"see on midagi mille tähendus on suurem kui su elu nime"
Huvitav mitu väärtust siis Krääzinil on?
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Kõlab küll patriootlikult... kuid kui Sul on väärtus, et ei ropenda, sest saad aru keelesisust ja kasust, siis Sa ei lähe surma, sellevastu kes ropendab, seega kulla prof. krääsin, su arusaamad on hõredad
"see on midagi mille tähendus on suurem kui su elu nime"
Huvitav mitu väärtust siis Krääzinil on?
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Kõlab küll patriootlikult... kuid kui Sul on väärtus, et ei ropenda, sest saad aru keelesisust ja kasust, siis Sa ei lähe surma, sellevastu kes ropendab, seega kulla prof. krääsin, su arusaamad on hõredad
23 January 2018 21:28
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
riik, eriti kuningriik, hõimkondade vahelised liidud on olemuselt rahuorganid, kui nad kriminaalide poolt ehitatud ple
kuidas see vägivalla organi nime endal sai?
kuidas see vägivalla organi nime endal sai?
23 January 2018 21:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Slaavlaste oss ka ei julge mainida, et venemaalastena arvatud, venemaa valituse alge.. ega ikka ei ole küll ukraina jne.. vaid ikka 1000a tagais need liidrid , Rus ju hoopis Norra poolt tulnukad
23 January 2018 21:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jahiuvad ikka, Demokraatiast kui heast asjast
23 January 2018 21:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ega ta ise ei julge ette kirjutada ja öelda, mis on väärtused,
jahub samamoodi.. kuigi okey, suts karm liialt ta osas, tla ika mitu head lauset ka tuleb järjepanu
jahub samamoodi.. kuigi okey, suts karm liialt ta osas, tla ika mitu head lauset ka tuleb järjepanu
23 January 2018 21:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Näe jälle kägiseb see krääsin, nüüd räägib "väärtuste lobast" mis tuleb Brüsselist.
Nu ise ta professor, teab kindlasti palu häid asju.. aga näe kannab lipsu ise edasi.. ja
Nu ise ta professor, teab kindlasti palu häid asju.. aga näe kannab lipsu ise edasi.. ja
23 January 2018 21:16
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
See suurimaid katastroofe, et riigilt kõuik aluspinad alt võetud ja meid kellegi taskurätiks tehtud, nende arvates kes siin juhtida meie liiki soovib, geeni keskusena, et siin nagu loomapaaritus keskuses, lasta siis kasvada vaikses õnsuses head pealekasvu millega olendeid elus hoida, (ühest inimeses piisab kümnetuhandete leushoidmiseks, millionite vereliiini jätkamiseks)
samal ajal kui nad aga kogu selle riigi likvideerida soovivad, nii ametlikult kui kultuuriliselt, selliselt, et rahvas oleks nagu karjalomad, idiootlikus õnsuses, arvad, et vaba maa, ja et igast vabadused lubatud... ja siis need kes "riiiki" juhivad, notivad ära kõik Kärajad ja ka nu enamus vaesed silmealt, ainult niipelaju jäätakse, et nendega ülejäänud ühiskonda hirmutada tööle ja nööril käia.. selepärast hoitakse meelega ka sots inimesed raskes välimuses
samal ajal kui nad aga kogu selle riigi likvideerida soovivad, nii ametlikult kui kultuuriliselt, selliselt, et rahvas oleks nagu karjalomad, idiootlikus õnsuses, arvad, et vaba maa, ja et igast vabadused lubatud... ja siis need kes "riiiki" juhivad, notivad ära kõik Kärajad ja ka nu enamus vaesed silmealt, ainult niipelaju jäätakse, et nendega ülejäänud ühiskonda hirmutada tööle ja nööril käia.. selepärast hoitakse meelega ka sots inimesed raskes välimuses
23 January 2018 21:15
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
Need kes "Vähem Riiki" räägivad, nemad soovivad, rohkem betoon hooneid, rohkem välismaameelsusega hingetutele ärišhaakalitele ärida kõike mis annab
mis omakorda täehendab, välis totalitaarse võimu kätte anda lootusetult kõik pehme terrori kaudu
mis omakorda täehendab, välis totalitaarse võimu kätte anda lootusetult kõik pehme terrori kaudu
23 January 2018 21:10
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
Eesti riik nüüd küll mingi vägivalla organ pole, see mis kombitsad meie riigi sisse on lastud pool orgaaniliselt kasvada, see on see ...
23 January 2018 21:10
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
Eiei kullakallis inimene,.. see on Sul nüüd küll VÄGA ohtlik ja kahjulik mõte praegusel ajastul.. sest tuleb aru saada, kes ja miks ütleb seda,
sõna "riik" tähendab Selles kontekstis "Eesti rahvus" ja "Eesti kultuur" ja "Eesti loodus" ja "Eesti inimesed"
sõna "riik" tähendab Selles kontekstis "Eesti rahvus" ja "Eesti kultuur" ja "Eesti loodus" ja "Eesti inimesed"
23 January 2018 21:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
inimesed kohe inimese moodi näevad rohkem välja, kui seda nööri ümber kaela ple
23 January 2018 20:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
vaadates kõne ja keha maneere, kas see TTV reporter on veel samsoo ihardusega ka kokku puutunud v? Või mingi veidra luterluse versiooniga ?
Jutt on punane, see vb annab tooni kuid mis viisakas vähemalt nähaq järjest, et lipsud ümber kõri ei ole täna ekraanil kellegil veel olnud selle poole tunni jooksul ,savisaare pojast kuni muude külalisteni.
Ehk saame arenetud slleski osas
Jutt on punane, see vb annab tooni kuid mis viisakas vähemalt nähaq järjest, et lipsud ümber kõri ei ole täna ekraanil kellegil veel olnud selle poole tunni jooksul ,savisaare pojast kuni muude külalisteni.
Ehk saame arenetud slleski osas
23 January 2018 20:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui teoretiliselt midagi usud ja uurid tuleb neid teatud asju arvesse ka võtta asju uurides..
näiteks kui loed infot selle kohta, et iniemstel on võimali ksilmeeest infot peita ja sedasi teha, et tal see meelde ei jääks kui märkab ja et tal huvi ei tekiks, või vastupidine huvine (mega äkiline magamishoog näiteks vms) .. siis tuleb ka sedaarvesse võtta..
ajakoopiatest rääkides jms, veelgriaskem, kindlaks teha, et oled lugenud ja näiud ja arusaanud ja mäletanud mida vaja, selleks , et teemast üldse hakata arusaama
ja kui karvu pole, seenekogemusigi mitte... ja pole vanaaja tervet mõistustki... siis eip oskagi oodata mis lootust olla saab peale jumalavaimu
kuigi enamasti poolesõnaga ikka olge alati skeptilised iniemse suhtes kes neist asjust räägib ja samas ise kannab edasi lipsu. ja ajab habet ja ei promo psühdeeliat ega piiblitki..
näiteks kui loed infot selle kohta, et iniemstel on võimali ksilmeeest infot peita ja sedasi teha, et tal see meelde ei jääks kui märkab ja et tal huvi ei tekiks, või vastupidine huvine (mega äkiline magamishoog näiteks vms) .. siis tuleb ka sedaarvesse võtta..
ajakoopiatest rääkides jms, veelgriaskem, kindlaks teha, et oled lugenud ja näiud ja arusaanud ja mäletanud mida vaja, selleks , et teemast üldse hakata arusaama
ja kui karvu pole, seenekogemusigi mitte... ja pole vanaaja tervet mõistustki... siis eip oskagi oodata mis lootust olla saab peale jumalavaimu
kuigi enamasti poolesõnaga ikka olge alati skeptilised iniemse suhtes kes neist asjust räägib ja samas ise kannab edasi lipsu. ja ajab habet ja ei promo psühdeeliat ega piiblitki..
23 January 2018 17:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
minuhulllus on my cover, well not anymore so much... aga juhuks kui ise unustama panna proovitakse
23 January 2018 17:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kommentaarid suures osas minule endale (ja arvutiotsetõlke ja robotajude arusaama eest par astet ehk hoiab eemal..) ja vähestele huvitatudele,
asjalikud te keskenduge linkidele,
nende kogu mahule ja võrrelde sellega mida "unustati" teles samadest asjadest rääkides, rääkida..
asjalikud te keskenduge linkidele,
nende kogu mahule ja võrrelde sellega mida "unustati" teles samadest asjadest rääkides, rääkida..
23 January 2018 17:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja nagu kellavärk, nohu ja kõha :D
olles kakspäeva kodus, toas...
Järsku tekialt peale seda ülesärgates, ( ja veider hybriid unenägu, pool film ja pool mini vanade asjade segu.. kaks und suht koos ka ühest ärkamisest, )
et siis jah.. köha kohe kuni nii, et kopsust tunned ja nina vesine jookseb mittemillegist
ehk siis imuunsüsteem mittemillegist sai kahjustada või... hommikul seitsmeni polnud mingit märkigi, siis pikutad, ja ärkad haigena, olles eelnevalt toas paar päeva.. kergelt ebaloogiline inimesele veel kes külma niisama külge endale ka pookima ei peaks..
Kuid eks mul need asjad kergelt.. kuid eks neid kellel need asjad lõpetavad huvi
olles kakspäeva kodus, toas...
Järsku tekialt peale seda ülesärgates, ( ja veider hybriid unenägu, pool film ja pool mini vanade asjade segu.. kaks und suht koos ka ühest ärkamisest, )
et siis jah.. köha kohe kuni nii, et kopsust tunned ja nina vesine jookseb mittemillegist
ehk siis imuunsüsteem mittemillegist sai kahjustada või... hommikul seitsmeni polnud mingit märkigi, siis pikutad, ja ärkad haigena, olles eelnevalt toas paar päeva.. kergelt ebaloogiline inimesele veel kes külma niisama külge endale ka pookima ei peaks..
Kuid eks mul need asjad kergelt.. kuid eks neid kellel need asjad lõpetavad huvi
23 January 2018 17:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
pimedates kohtades teepeal ka ei liigu, x ainetes ega ammugi alkoholiga mitte,
kuid eks võimalusi veel palju, lihtsalt inimesed osatki endale kirja panna võiks, mis nendega juhtuda ei saa ega ei peaks
kuid eks võimalusi veel palju, lihtsalt inimesed osatki endale kirja panna võiks, mis nendega juhtuda ei saa ega ei peaks
23 January 2018 17:35
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
antakse päris jõuliselt kallistusteta https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlbD2uCG_ZE ...kuid yeah, eks need nopped, eks muidu miskit muud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlbD2uCG_ZE
23 January 2018 17:28
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
saavad need paksud ennast liigutatud küll kiirelt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKIetRmP8Jk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKIetRmP8Jk
23 January 2018 17:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et kui midagi keegi sooviks peita, peidetud teadused, peidetud arusaamad, must hypnoos jne
et siis just need vähesed detailid on iisavad, mille peale rühku panna, mida korrata ja hoida arusaamas enamusel, et pole olemas ja need vähesed kes teavad, kaardistatud, lõigata ära neist, kes infot jagavad ja jagavad omakorda huvitatudest lõigata kuid huvitatud enmasti eriti va. osade tugipuktide kes enamasti valalele teele saadavad või keda ei saada liigutada
et siis just need vähesed detailid on iisavad, mille peale rühku panna, mida korrata ja hoida arusaamas enamusel, et pole olemas ja need vähesed kes teavad, kaardistatud, lõigata ära neist, kes infot jagavad ja jagavad omakorda huvitatudest lõigata kuid huvitatud enmasti eriti va. osade tugipuktide kes enamasti valalele teele saadavad või keda ei saada liigutada
23 January 2018 17:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sest kui lugeda kirjeldusi ja kohtuda paljude naudikute ja hippide või samaaniasjadega tegelevatega, juhukasutajategagi, siis need asjad mida nad kirjeldavad tihti, on JUST need asjad, mis tundub, et kui eelnevad tehnoloogiad suuresti reaalsed väljastpoolt meie maailma, mis meie maailma tehnoloogiat arendades meiemaailma sisse tuua tahted ja toodud ka.. et ...
23 January 2018 17:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
loogiline saab olla, et sellised reaktsioonid, enamustel,
taimede osas, mis neid nendest ülejäänud teemadest ka arusaama panevad,
sest siis uued tunnetused ja arusaamad tekivad, märkad erinevas "vibratsioonis/sageduses asju"
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Arvatvasti siin jällegi, südamega, rahulikult, AEGLASELT, sõnasõnalt piibli lugemine aitab ligitõmmata teiste tunnetusi ja mõtteid.. ja seepärast ka too aitab kaitset ja reaalsust hoida,
kuigi imelik on ka,... et need usklikud, kes olgugi et head aga pealiskaudsemad murede ja planeerimiste osas tunduvad.. et nendel ka samasugused puudujäägid.. nii selle osas, et Tarkus on naisooost.. kui ka seda, et piibli lõpp, vanatestamendis, ei ole isegi läbi mõtestatud..
taimede osas, mis neid nendest ülejäänud teemadest ka arusaama panevad,
sest siis uued tunnetused ja arusaamad tekivad, märkad erinevas "vibratsioonis/sageduses asju"
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Arvatvasti siin jällegi, südamega, rahulikult, AEGLASELT, sõnasõnalt piibli lugemine aitab ligitõmmata teiste tunnetusi ja mõtteid.. ja seepärast ka too aitab kaitset ja reaalsust hoida,
kuigi imelik on ka,... et need usklikud, kes olgugi et head aga pealiskaudsemad murede ja planeerimiste osas tunduvad.. et nendel ka samasugused puudujäägid.. nii selle osas, et Tarkus on naisooost.. kui ka seda, et piibli lõpp, vanatestamendis, ei ole isegi läbi mõtestatud..
23 January 2018 17:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
mõtteid veel mis osaliselt kirja said
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214040843591879
Teooria selline, et inimestele on teatud märksõnadega pähepantud hypnoos kus nagu karjaloomad nad tembeldatakse erinevate märksõnade kindlaks,
sellest enemasti olen arusaanud ka provokatiivseid teemasi samanismist tuues inimkonnale ja üle Eesti ja maa, suur hulk inimesi peaaegu identselt vastavad samasuguse hirmu ja loogikavega,
kes ütleb, et "joon küll ja teen suitsu aga narkootikume ei puutu" (kuigi psühedeelikumid on mitu astet vähem "narkootikumid" kui nende iganädalane tarbimine, õigemini need asjad narkoootikumi vastased asjad ) ning mitmete muude oluliste vaidluste ja asjade osas, kus tervemõistus, süda st, ütleb et inimesed peaksid hoopis kaasa tulema, eemalduvad nad väga sarnase emotsiooni ja "teadmisega" asjast kus on kindel arusaam, et neil endal EI ole olnud ei teadmisi ega uurimistöid tehtud sellel alal, kuid alal nii huvitav, et väga imelik oleks selleks mitte aega leida (aja puudus "tegeleda selliste asjade uurimisega / internetist võib kõike leida, pole tõsi " - on ka tüüpilised monotoonsed ühesugused vastused, uuema generatsiooni spiritualistidel aga on veel paar uut vastust teadvusesse ilmunud, mis otse pole märgetest praegu võtta, kuid sisu on et "inimese oma usk, et need asjad mõjutavad..." ja siis " ainult need asjad on olemas mida usume / ei tohi karta igasuguseid asju.." ) .. samas kui testida igasuguste muude, teemadega mida inimene ei tea, ei ole kuulud ja mis saavad põnevad olla, siis tullakse suht lihtsalt ja sügavalt kaasa
Hearing “Voices”: The Hidden History of the CIA’s Electromagnetic Mind-Control Experiments - MCRAIS
Hearing “Voices”: The Hidden History of the CIA’s Electromagnetic Mind-Control Experiments - MCRAIS
sites.google.com
REPLY
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10214040843591879
Teooria selline, et inimestele on teatud märksõnadega pähepantud hypnoos kus nagu karjaloomad nad tembeldatakse erinevate märksõnade kindlaks,
sellest enemasti olen arusaanud ka provokatiivseid teemasi samanismist tuues inimkonnale ja üle Eesti ja maa, suur hulk inimesi peaaegu identselt vastavad samasuguse hirmu ja loogikavega,
kes ütleb, et "joon küll ja teen suitsu aga narkootikume ei puutu" (kuigi psühedeelikumid on mitu astet vähem "narkootikumid" kui nende iganädalane tarbimine, õigemini need asjad narkoootikumi vastased asjad ) ning mitmete muude oluliste vaidluste ja asjade osas, kus tervemõistus, süda st, ütleb et inimesed peaksid hoopis kaasa tulema, eemalduvad nad väga sarnase emotsiooni ja "teadmisega" asjast kus on kindel arusaam, et neil endal EI ole olnud ei teadmisi ega uurimistöid tehtud sellel alal, kuid alal nii huvitav, et väga imelik oleks selleks mitte aega leida (aja puudus "tegeleda selliste asjade uurimisega / internetist võib kõike leida, pole tõsi " - on ka tüüpilised monotoonsed ühesugused vastused, uuema generatsiooni spiritualistidel aga on veel paar uut vastust teadvusesse ilmunud, mis otse pole märgetest praegu võtta, kuid sisu on et "inimese oma usk, et need asjad mõjutavad..." ja siis " ainult need asjad on olemas mida usume / ei tohi karta igasuguseid asju.." ) .. samas kui testida igasuguste muude, teemadega mida inimene ei tea, ei ole kuulud ja mis saavad põnevad olla, siis tullakse suht lihtsalt ja sügavalt kaasa
Hearing “Voices”: The Hidden History of the CIA’s Electromagnetic Mind-Control Experiments - MCRAIS
Hearing “Voices”: The Hidden History of the CIA’s Electromagnetic Mind-Control Experiments - MCRAIS
sites.google.com
REPLY
23 January 2018 17:09
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
mõtled küll, et raske, et siis raskelt kõvem andmine käib aaga nujah, tagantjärgi, kui arvestada veel neid mängunippe, siis vast jah nii
23 January 2018 16:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tänud
23 January 2018 16:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ERM @ Eesti Rahva Muuseum / Estonian National Museum
Ilus!
Ilus!
23 January 2018 16:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(aeg sõltub tundest)
23 January 2018 07:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
wauh, tesitkorda järjest, ülepikaaja, sain korralikult tööpäevaga valmis, mõistlikuks ajaks
23 January 2018 07:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Igaksjuhuks mainin, et kindlasti ei mina ega keegi keda ma tunnen, ei hakka kunagi endale ise otsaette kirjutama , pealegi see keeruline,
ega külmaga ringi jooksma valedes kohtades, me võtame rahulikult, sest ehitame Eestit ja ei ründa
eriti omasi, Eestimaiseid
ega külmaga ringi jooksma valedes kohtades, me võtame rahulikult, sest ehitame Eestit ja ei ründa
eriti omasi, Eestimaiseid
23 January 2018 06:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kas Eesti rahva Kalender kirjutatakse ERK või Erk. ?
23 January 2018 06:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Küsimus ei oel selles, aks te teate kas on, vaid selles kas te oleksite teadnud kui oleks
23 January 2018 06:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(kustmaalt see tõlge hakkab, millest kaks sõnumit tagasi rääkisin, kui kellegil küsimus tekkis kes teiseltpoolt tulles ja lugedes seda arusaama hakkab, küll hoopis uued mee ja taevavahelised olendisendid siin inimestega nüüd reaalses suures tarkuses omavahelise enamuses oleva maailmapiiritaju kaotada saavad ja headusesuunas, olgugi, et vastasuuunas, liiikuvad...hoopis omaaarust nõrgemosa samasuunda edaisminnnes koos õigega ise teavad kuhu õiged läävad /maarahvas)
23 January 2018 05:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
peale sõna ise-endi, (sest ka mõeldud sõna "igaveste" sinna vahele jätta, kuid seda aimu on pigem teadmatult mulle antud, teadmatust selles osas on antud ja mitte rahulolu, ega ka muret, et kas oleks nii või naa, kui siis mure ,et kuna veel pole kindel siis ikka viisakas oleks niipalju saada teha kui võimaldab see aeg olgugi kui iganes vältimatu jaoks/tarvis)
23 January 2018 05:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
viimase osa võib ka tõlkida "millal iganes sündivate järeltulijatega"
23 January 2018 05:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi, mis ma tean, ma Leedukas
Kuid vb ikka sedasi, et selles maas (või mõnes maas) kus lapselapse lapsed sünnivad, et siis selles maas olev õigus on suurem omadi ja identiteedi, maa üle kui teatud vereliinide ja tehnoloogiate aluspäraste eriliikide võimuesiliinide järeltujliate Lepingud iseendi igaveste järeltulijatega
Kuid vb ikka sedasi, et selles maas (või mõnes maas) kus lapselapse lapsed sünnivad, et siis selles maas olev õigus on suurem omadi ja identiteedi, maa üle kui teatud vereliinide ja tehnoloogiate aluspäraste eriliikide võimuesiliinide järeltujliate Lepingud iseendi igaveste järeltulijatega
23 January 2018 05:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Selle nalja mõte vaja nüüd kokku tikkida /Suurastmete pehme seletus)
23 January 2018 05:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
4 eesti valda, kah mul asi,
mõtleb Ameeeriklane (nähes arusaamegi kui see meiesüü oleks olnud, et Atlantise olevat me põhjalasknud)
Venelane loeb ameeriklase mõtteid ja ütleb omamisi: "neil vist pole õrna aimugi"
Eestlane vaatab seda komejanti oma peas ja ütleb:
mõtleb Ameeeriklane (nähes arusaamegi kui see meiesüü oleks olnud, et Atlantise olevat me põhjalasknud)
Venelane loeb ameeriklase mõtteid ja ütleb omamisi: "neil vist pole õrna aimugi"
Eestlane vaatab seda komejanti oma peas ja ütleb:
23 January 2018 05:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"ja 50 kilti enda ümber, kõik asuvad vallad võtame,
ja kui 50 ei saa, siis teeme nii 10-12 kilomeetrit"
- kuid see täitsa tühijutt, kunisinnamaani, kuni neid sõnu teame,
kuidas nii teha, kui muudmoodi poleveel saadud,
kui juba saadud, siis ise aitame uusi muid vajalike muresi lahendada, mida arvasime juba olenud varjuna me umber astuda, varem/
ja kui 50 ei saa, siis teeme nii 10-12 kilomeetrit"
- kuid see täitsa tühijutt, kunisinnamaani, kuni neid sõnu teame,
kuidas nii teha, kui muudmoodi poleveel saadud,
kui juba saadud, siis ise aitame uusi muid vajalike muresi lahendada, mida arvasime juba olenud varjuna me umber astuda, varem/
23 January 2018 05:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja seega meie juba valmistume ette, kõiki meid ja teid võtma enda ette koosvõrgustamisesse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn9Lkc9joPo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn9Lkc9joPo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn9Lkc9joPo
23 January 2018 05:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis luuakse kõrvale,
kui siinnii ei juhtunud, siis saad isegi aru, et eriti nüüd juhtuma saab hakata,
kui siinnii ei juhtunud, siis saad isegi aru, et eriti nüüd juhtuma saab hakata,
23 January 2018 05:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Peaaasi, et nad kohe jälle neid gogle komuune siis sulgema ei kipu "ebategevuse<".. VAHESE KASUTUSE POOLT, NAGU NÖ ORKUT... KUS TEGELT VIST LIIGA AKTIIVNE TGEVUS LÄKS ups,käps,
läks käima, mingis sfääris ja siis mingi muu kontrol süsteemiga plaaniti, inflatreerituimalt, ja hakeldumalt luua... nu ja fb limiit ka.. kuigi osalt täidab eesmärki, et aeglustab kuid longates liigub ikka suuremaks kasvades edasi, kuigi et külgedelt pudeneb, kuid võib vabalt jõuda järgmise laineni ja oma karika edasi kingida veelgi raskemini inimeste võimueest hoitavat suursüsteeme mis juba aiataks algse teha ajastule kus inieine saab maailmakorda suunata
läks käima, mingis sfääris ja siis mingi muu kontrol süsteemiga plaaniti, inflatreerituimalt, ja hakeldumalt luua... nu ja fb limiit ka.. kuigi osalt täidab eesmärki, et aeglustab kuid longates liigub ikka suuremaks kasvades edasi, kuigi et külgedelt pudeneb, kuid võib vabalt jõuda järgmise laineni ja oma karika edasi kingida veelgi raskemini inimeste võimueest hoitavat suursüsteeme mis juba aiataks algse teha ajastule kus inieine saab maailmakorda suunata
23 January 2018 05:31
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
A bit more people killed on sugar, fat, smoking and alcohol also every year.. something maybe not working in many levels
23 January 2018 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
viimane on natuke liiga... kuid lisab vajaliku dimen medit osas
oluline on kaasata inga info ja allika ligi, ka erinevaid liike infosi,
info konteinerite ajastul see vast lihtsamini tehtav,
praegu OneNote ja notepad++ jms exelite ning kaustade süsteemidega peab hakkama saama
oluline on kaasata inga info ja allika ligi, ka erinevaid liike infosi,
info konteinerite ajastul see vast lihtsamini tehtav,
praegu OneNote ja notepad++ jms exelite ning kaustade süsteemidega peab hakkama saama
23 January 2018 03:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Puhtahullud siis ju: "All victims claimed that the psychiatric treatment did not have any therapeutic effect"
"Korean use of mind control techniques. Under the protection of “national security,” many other branches of the government also took part in the study of this area. The CIA originated its first program in 1950 under the name BLUEBIRD, which in 1951, after Canada and Britain had been included, was changed to ARTICHOKE. MKULTRA officially began in 1953. Technically it was closed in 1964, but some of its programs remained active under MKSEARCH well into the seventies. In 1973, tipped off about forthcoming investigations, CIA Director Richard Helms ordered the destruction of any MKULTRA records. (MC 10, 17)"
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/mind-control-electromagnetic-frequency-soleilmavis-liu
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The symptoms victims experienced as a possible result of this technology:
Hot and Cold Flashes 148 50.00%
Nausea 151 51.01%
Severe sweating 119 40.20%
Induced Sleep 193 65.20%
Sleep deprivation 233 78.72%
Extreme Fatigue 203 68.58%
Blurred Vision 170 57.43%
Sensations of pain in internal organs 183 61.82%
Sensations of pain in backbone, arms, legs, and muscles 174 58.78%
Numbness and tingling, Paresthesias, Loss of sensation 144 48.65%
Muscle Cramps /Spasms/tension 167 56.42%
Sudden Headaches 189 63.85%
Irregular Heartbeat 180 60.81%
False Heart Attacks 115 38.85%
Tooth Pain 149 50.34%
Diarrhea. 131 44.26%
Acute inflammation/autoimmunity reactions 75 25.34%
Autoimmune disorders like Fibromyalgia 50 16.89%
Urinary tract infections 53 17.91%
Skin problems and skin irritations 149 50.34%
Change in growing of hair and nails 95 32.09%
Female problems which eventually lead to hysterectomy 24 8.11%
Cancer 13 4.39%
Fevers 68 22.97%
Flulike Symptoms /Sneezing 126 42.57%
Dizziness or Loss of Balance 164 55.41%
Sudden loss of consciousness 91 30.74%
Benign or Malignant Tumors 24 8.11%
Sensation of Electric Current Running through the Body 161 54.39%
Induced Thoughts/ telepathic communication, messages 191 64.53%
Hearing “voices” (reception of auditory acoustic weapon transmissions or similar) 201 67.91%
Seeing "Holograms" 124 41.89%
Dream Manipulation 211 71.28%
Artificial Emotions (induced fear, anger, shame, joy, hate, sadness) 201 67.91%
Sudden “unexpected" Sexual Arousal 159 53.72%
Genital manipulation 163 55.07%
Induced Smells 154 52.03%
Sudden extreme moodswings (depression - euphoria) 142 47.97%
Induced pleasure-aversion reactions towards people or objects 133 44.93%
Making you say things (forced speech) 135 45.61%
General behaviour control in some situations 147 49.66%
Manipulation of Memory (forgetting/remembering/screen memories) 199 67.23%
Remote steering of eye movements 114 38.51%
Remote steering of body movements/motor control 126 42.57%
Virtual reality experiences while awake 104 35.14%
50.34% of all victims have been forced to accept psychiatric treatment, the length of being forced to accept psychiatric treatment were:
(1) 1-3 months 66 22.30%
(2) 4-6 months 12 4.05%
(3) 7-12 months 4 1.35%
(4) 1 year 10 3.38%
(5) 2-3 years 17 5.74%
(6) 4-5 years 11 3.72%
(7) 6-8 years 9 3.04%
(8) 9-10 years 1 0.34%
(9) above 10 years 20 6.76%
All victims claimed that the psychiatric treatment did not have any therapeutic effect
"Korean use of mind control techniques. Under the protection of “national security,” many other branches of the government also took part in the study of this area. The CIA originated its first program in 1950 under the name BLUEBIRD, which in 1951, after Canada and Britain had been included, was changed to ARTICHOKE. MKULTRA officially began in 1953. Technically it was closed in 1964, but some of its programs remained active under MKSEARCH well into the seventies. In 1973, tipped off about forthcoming investigations, CIA Director Richard Helms ordered the destruction of any MKULTRA records. (MC 10, 17)"
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/mind-control-electromagnetic-frequency-soleilmavis-liu
..
The symptoms victims experienced as a possible result of this technology:
Hot and Cold Flashes 148 50.00%
Nausea 151 51.01%
Severe sweating 119 40.20%
Induced Sleep 193 65.20%
Sleep deprivation 233 78.72%
Extreme Fatigue 203 68.58%
Blurred Vision 170 57.43%
Sensations of pain in internal organs 183 61.82%
Sensations of pain in backbone, arms, legs, and muscles 174 58.78%
Numbness and tingling, Paresthesias, Loss of sensation 144 48.65%
Muscle Cramps /Spasms/tension 167 56.42%
Sudden Headaches 189 63.85%
Irregular Heartbeat 180 60.81%
False Heart Attacks 115 38.85%
Tooth Pain 149 50.34%
Diarrhea. 131 44.26%
Acute inflammation/autoimmunity reactions 75 25.34%
Autoimmune disorders like Fibromyalgia 50 16.89%
Urinary tract infections 53 17.91%
Skin problems and skin irritations 149 50.34%
Change in growing of hair and nails 95 32.09%
Female problems which eventually lead to hysterectomy 24 8.11%
Cancer 13 4.39%
Fevers 68 22.97%
Flulike Symptoms /Sneezing 126 42.57%
Dizziness or Loss of Balance 164 55.41%
Sudden loss of consciousness 91 30.74%
Benign or Malignant Tumors 24 8.11%
Sensation of Electric Current Running through the Body 161 54.39%
Induced Thoughts/ telepathic communication, messages 191 64.53%
Hearing “voices” (reception of auditory acoustic weapon transmissions or similar) 201 67.91%
Seeing "Holograms" 124 41.89%
Dream Manipulation 211 71.28%
Artificial Emotions (induced fear, anger, shame, joy, hate, sadness) 201 67.91%
Sudden “unexpected" Sexual Arousal 159 53.72%
Genital manipulation 163 55.07%
Induced Smells 154 52.03%
Sudden extreme moodswings (depression - euphoria) 142 47.97%
Induced pleasure-aversion reactions towards people or objects 133 44.93%
Making you say things (forced speech) 135 45.61%
General behaviour control in some situations 147 49.66%
Manipulation of Memory (forgetting/remembering/screen memories) 199 67.23%
Remote steering of eye movements 114 38.51%
Remote steering of body movements/motor control 126 42.57%
Virtual reality experiences while awake 104 35.14%
50.34% of all victims have been forced to accept psychiatric treatment, the length of being forced to accept psychiatric treatment were:
(1) 1-3 months 66 22.30%
(2) 4-6 months 12 4.05%
(3) 7-12 months 4 1.35%
(4) 1 year 10 3.38%
(5) 2-3 years 17 5.74%
(6) 4-5 years 11 3.72%
(7) 6-8 years 9 3.04%
(8) 9-10 years 1 0.34%
(9) above 10 years 20 6.76%
All victims claimed that the psychiatric treatment did not have any therapeutic effect
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/mind-control-electromagnetic-frequency-soleilmavis-liu
23 January 2018 03:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"the CIA’s cybernetic technique, “based on Eastern European research,” involved..."
In 1965 the New York Times reported obscure EMR experiments secretly funded by the government under the front-page headline: “Mind Control Coming, Scientist Warns.” Quoted in the article, University of California psychology professor Dr. David Krech cautioned, “EMR research may carry with it even more serious implications than the achievements of the atomic physicists.”
Earlier, a 1963 CIA-issued manual prepared on the study of Radio-Hypnotic Intra-Cerebral Control (RHIC) explained: “When a part of your brain receives a tiny electrical impulse from outside sources, such as vision, hearing, etc., an emotion is produced—anger at the sight of a gang of boys beating an old woman, for example. The same emotions of anger can be created by artificial radio signals sent to your brain by a controller. You could instantly feel the same white hot anger without any apparent reason.”
Richard Helms, Plans Director for the CIA, oversaw military-oriented EMR research pursuing the possible transmission of strategic subliminal messages into the aggregate minds of enemy populations. In a 1964 memo to the Warren Commission regarding the possibility that Lee Harvey Oswald had been a mind-controlled assassin, Helms outlined the existence of “biological radio communication.”
“Cybernetics [the science of communication and control theory that is concerned with the study of automatic control systems, such as the brain and mechanical-electrical communications],” Helms admitted, “can be used in molding of a child’s character, the inculcation of knowledge and techniques, the amassing of experience, the establishment of social behavior patterns ... all functions which can be summarized as control of the growth processes of the individual.”
A subsequent CIA directive, summarized in a brochure on “cybernetic technique” distributed by Mankind Research Unlimited, an EMR study facility in Washington, D.C., detailed the CIA’s development of a “means by which information of modest rate can be fed to humans utilizing other senses than sight or hearing.” According to the brochure, the CIA’s cybernetic technique, “based on Eastern European research,” involved beaming information via radio frequencies to individual human nerve cells. The purpose, the directive stated, was “the enhancement of a subject’s mental and physical performance.”
https://sites.google.com/site/mcrais/voices
In 1965 the New York Times reported obscure EMR experiments secretly funded by the government under the front-page headline: “Mind Control Coming, Scientist Warns.” Quoted in the article, University of California psychology professor Dr. David Krech cautioned, “EMR research may carry with it even more serious implications than the achievements of the atomic physicists.”
Earlier, a 1963 CIA-issued manual prepared on the study of Radio-Hypnotic Intra-Cerebral Control (RHIC) explained: “When a part of your brain receives a tiny electrical impulse from outside sources, such as vision, hearing, etc., an emotion is produced—anger at the sight of a gang of boys beating an old woman, for example. The same emotions of anger can be created by artificial radio signals sent to your brain by a controller. You could instantly feel the same white hot anger without any apparent reason.”
Richard Helms, Plans Director for the CIA, oversaw military-oriented EMR research pursuing the possible transmission of strategic subliminal messages into the aggregate minds of enemy populations. In a 1964 memo to the Warren Commission regarding the possibility that Lee Harvey Oswald had been a mind-controlled assassin, Helms outlined the existence of “biological radio communication.”
“Cybernetics [the science of communication and control theory that is concerned with the study of automatic control systems, such as the brain and mechanical-electrical communications],” Helms admitted, “can be used in molding of a child’s character, the inculcation of knowledge and techniques, the amassing of experience, the establishment of social behavior patterns ... all functions which can be summarized as control of the growth processes of the individual.”
A subsequent CIA directive, summarized in a brochure on “cybernetic technique” distributed by Mankind Research Unlimited, an EMR study facility in Washington, D.C., detailed the CIA’s development of a “means by which information of modest rate can be fed to humans utilizing other senses than sight or hearing.” According to the brochure, the CIA’s cybernetic technique, “based on Eastern European research,” involved beaming information via radio frequencies to individual human nerve cells. The purpose, the directive stated, was “the enhancement of a subject’s mental and physical performance.”
https://sites.google.com/site/mcrais/voices
https://sites.google.com/site/mcrais/voices
23 January 2018 03:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Sisusi veel:
Näiteks võtate alumisesttekstist lõigu mis tundub oluline ja poolik lausejupp, ning vaatate kus lehtedelt sama info tuleb ja mis lisainfo sellega kaasneb, mida nad mainivad, lisainfo lisa märkmepaberitesse, mis omakorda läbiotsimisele
Näiteks otsides: ""purpose of the LIDA was for medical treatments"
kolm esimest teksti:
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_mindcon30b.htm
http://islandrepublicofdan.blogspot.com.ee/2013/05/the-russian-woodpecker-experiments-in_5892.html . . .(mis omakorda mitmete linkidega teema laiendamiseks, kuid pidage meeles veel, et otsite INFOT mitte tõde, ehk siis, kui suure artikli seest saate 3-4 uut head juhtnööri mis päris asjani viib, ongi eesmärk. Kutil blogis päris palju linke postitatud varem..ja tuleb hinnata üksikuid hulle rohkem kui pehme üldist liigpüüdmatut hämaajavat ja samas tervat emotsoone vajutvat ja inimesi ründav...)
Järgmine link viib nteks siia: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/2558
Mis omakorda, huvitavat materiali täis kust palju häid märkmeid saada, head jätku, kuni veel saate selles army võrgus edasi liikuda, ... kuid varsti lülitada on ju võimalik sisse olukorrad suurel osal, kus ei märgatagi ,kui "sellised" lehed ja infod kaovad kättesaamatuks,
Algtekst:
“The purported purpose of the LIDA was for medical treatments; however, the North Koreans used it as a brain washing device during the Korean War. The big question is: what did they do with the technology?
It could have been improved and/or made smaller. It is unlikely that they abandoned something that worked.”
This is powerful confirmation that LIDA, the “mini-Woodpecker”, was able to be used on a semi-large scale (an auditorium), and had been used for brainwashing.
This nefarious purpose was confirmed when Adey was testing the LIDA and an electrician was walking by and asked him where he got the “North Korean brain washing machine” from. Ross told him that it was a Russian medical device. The man said he had been brainwashed by a device like that when he was in a POW camp. Byrd said that they “placed the vertical plates alongside his head and read questions and answers to him. He said he felt like he was in a dream. Later when the Red Cross came and asked questions, he responded with what had been read to him while under the influence of the device. He said he seemed to have no control over the answers. "
---
" Associated Press reported on Adey’s scoop, it concluded that “the LIDA may have been the forerunner of a device that is presently bombarding Europe and the United States with very powerful waves.” An interesting conclusion, and a direct reference to the “big” Woodpecker."
Näiteks võtate alumisesttekstist lõigu mis tundub oluline ja poolik lausejupp, ning vaatate kus lehtedelt sama info tuleb ja mis lisainfo sellega kaasneb, mida nad mainivad, lisainfo lisa märkmepaberitesse, mis omakorda läbiotsimisele
Näiteks otsides: ""purpose of the LIDA was for medical treatments"
kolm esimest teksti:
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_mindcon30b.htm
http://islandrepublicofdan.blogspot.com.ee/2013/05/the-russian-woodpecker-experiments-in_5892.html . . .(mis omakorda mitmete linkidega teema laiendamiseks, kuid pidage meeles veel, et otsite INFOT mitte tõde, ehk siis, kui suure artikli seest saate 3-4 uut head juhtnööri mis päris asjani viib, ongi eesmärk. Kutil blogis päris palju linke postitatud varem..ja tuleb hinnata üksikuid hulle rohkem kui pehme üldist liigpüüdmatut hämaajavat ja samas tervat emotsoone vajutvat ja inimesi ründav...)
Järgmine link viib nteks siia: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/2558
Mis omakorda, huvitavat materiali täis kust palju häid märkmeid saada, head jätku, kuni veel saate selles army võrgus edasi liikuda, ... kuid varsti lülitada on ju võimalik sisse olukorrad suurel osal, kus ei märgatagi ,kui "sellised" lehed ja infod kaovad kättesaamatuks,
Algtekst:
“The purported purpose of the LIDA was for medical treatments; however, the North Koreans used it as a brain washing device during the Korean War. The big question is: what did they do with the technology?
It could have been improved and/or made smaller. It is unlikely that they abandoned something that worked.”
This is powerful confirmation that LIDA, the “mini-Woodpecker”, was able to be used on a semi-large scale (an auditorium), and had been used for brainwashing.
This nefarious purpose was confirmed when Adey was testing the LIDA and an electrician was walking by and asked him where he got the “North Korean brain washing machine” from. Ross told him that it was a Russian medical device. The man said he had been brainwashed by a device like that when he was in a POW camp. Byrd said that they “placed the vertical plates alongside his head and read questions and answers to him. He said he felt like he was in a dream. Later when the Red Cross came and asked questions, he responded with what had been read to him while under the influence of the device. He said he seemed to have no control over the answers. "
---
" Associated Press reported on Adey’s scoop, it concluded that “the LIDA may have been the forerunner of a device that is presently bombarding Europe and the United States with very powerful waves.” An interesting conclusion, and a direct reference to the “big” Woodpecker."
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_mindcon30b.htm
23 January 2018 03:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ilmselgelt on need aasjad mõeldud selleks, et võtaksite ja nopiksite nende seest nimesi ja org ja teemade sisusi, labori aadresse juttudes,t raamatutest siin mainitud ja siis sellega seoses info koguda ja kogumikke teiste takadega vahetada
#Tarkuseõpe
#Tarkuseõpe
23 January 2018 03:33
Margus Meigo replied to Mithraka Fernando's comment.
Can i take Yourself to He's territory to explain him why he is so?
How would You explain him longer, why it is so (the nutcase) and how should be
How would You explain him longer, why it is so (the nutcase) and how should be
23 January 2018 02:28
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
Nu see totiumisspetsalist võiks suts arendada enda teadmisi
23 January 2018 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ometigi meil vanem ampteeki kesklinnas kui suurim praegune impeeriumriik
23 January 2018 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuigi ma ise kõige suurem "Eesti sada" promoja pole...sest ikka tundub, et see teistele ja meile jätab mulje, nagu oleksimegi ainult sajased, ühe inimese vanused kogu oma kultuuri ja rahvaga
23 January 2018 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sajaaastane malevlane, Raivo Kalamäe
https://www.facebook.com/KaitseliiduTallinnaMalev/videos/1591665287565646/
https://www.facebook.com/KaitseliiduTallinnaMalev/videos/1591665287565646/
23 January 2018 01:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
23 January 2018 00:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
MIs imestad Toomas?
23 January 2018 00:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Toomas Sirge karm, pean küsima jah, mis keemiat sinna kokku pandi. Tänaseks juba suts parem
22 January 2018 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Maailmas muidugi kahjuks nii hästi asjad ei lähe alati
22 January 2018 23:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Wau, siit videost see viimane, pani kohe südame põksuma, armastus!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toeUh_xo7Lc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toeUh_xo7Lc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toeUh_xo7Lc
22 January 2018 23:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tänaval aga lastel vahest vaja kui kamp alatuid ligi tuleb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crb6zFz3AO4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crb6zFz3AO4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crb6zFz3AO4
22 January 2018 23:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muidugi sellised matsid iseenesesttunduvad reaalsemad
// kuigi eks ka see muutu igavaks peale aega..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa7poDgTZdA
// kuigi eks ka see muutu igavaks peale aega..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa7poDgTZdA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa7poDgTZdA
22 January 2018 23:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Weel taustalugu:
"The shape he's in is a testament to the fighter's attitude since going through some dark days in the aftermath of his tragic fight with Magomed Abdusalamov.
Perez fought the lanky Russian when both were undefeated in 2013, although the ten-round New York war ended when Abdusalamov suffering life-altering injuries that almost killed him.
As Abdusalamov and his family struggled to deal with day-to-day life, Perez saw his career spiral as he readily admitted his focus had diminished."
http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2017/06/09/news/shocker-shredded-ex-heavyweight-mike-perez-drops-40lbs-in-crazy-shape-for-cruiserweight-debut
Magomed Abdusalamov vs Mike Perez 2013 11 02 full figh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj54xNDOa4s
"The shape he's in is a testament to the fighter's attitude since going through some dark days in the aftermath of his tragic fight with Magomed Abdusalamov.
Perez fought the lanky Russian when both were undefeated in 2013, although the ten-round New York war ended when Abdusalamov suffering life-altering injuries that almost killed him.
As Abdusalamov and his family struggled to deal with day-to-day life, Perez saw his career spiral as he readily admitted his focus had diminished."
http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2017/06/09/news/shocker-shredded-ex-heavyweight-mike-perez-drops-40lbs-in-crazy-shape-for-cruiserweight-debut
Magomed Abdusalamov vs Mike Perez 2013 11 02 full figh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj54xNDOa4s
http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2017/06/09/news/shocker-shredded-ex-heavyweight-mike-perez-drops-40lbs-in-crazy-shape-for-cruiserweight-debut
22 January 2018 22:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" At the Draft Gala, which took place on July 8 in Monte Carlo, Briedis chose former heavyweight contender Mike Perez (22-2-1, 14 KOs) as his quarter final opponent. Perez had been out of action for 25 months before moving down to the 200 pound limit division and won his first fight at that weight in a first-round knockout win on June 10, 2017. On July 22, the WBSS announced the fight would take place in Briedis' home country of Latvia at the Rīga Arēna in Riga on September 30, 2017. This was the 8th time Briedis fought at the arena.
Briedis won a scrappy fight in his hometown, beating Mike Perez by unanimous decision after 12 rounds (116-110, 115-111, 114-112). Perez was deducted a point in round 3 following an accidental headbutt. Briedis was also docked a point during round 10 for excessive holding. With the win, Briedis moved on to the semifinals to face top-seeded Oleksandr Usyk "
Briedis won a scrappy fight in his hometown, beating Mike Perez by unanimous decision after 12 rounds (116-110, 115-111, 114-112). Perez was deducted a point in round 3 following an accidental headbutt. Briedis was also docked a point during round 10 for excessive holding. With the win, Briedis moved on to the semifinals to face top-seeded Oleksandr Usyk "
22 January 2018 22:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Üldse ei arvaks, et need tüübid minu maisest kehast paar aastat vanemad on, täitsa huvitav ku ieri suunas inimesed areneda suudavad
22 January 2018 22:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu kannavad lipsu ka.. mis parata ühiskonna tööriistad...
Mairis Briedis (born January 13, 1985
Weight(s) Cruiserweight
Height 1.86 m (6 ft 1 in)
Reach 80 in (203 cm)
Nationality Latvian
Born January 13, 1985 (age 33)
Riga, Latvia
Stance Orthodox
Boxing record
Total fights 23
Wins 23
Wins by KO 18
Losses 0
//
At the age of 24, Mairis Briedis, who previously served as a police officer in Rīga, turned professional in 2009.
Mairis Briedis (born January 13, 1985
Weight(s) Cruiserweight
Height 1.86 m (6 ft 1 in)
Reach 80 in (203 cm)
Nationality Latvian
Born January 13, 1985 (age 33)
Riga, Latvia
Stance Orthodox
Boxing record
Total fights 23
Wins 23
Wins by KO 18
Losses 0
//
At the age of 24, Mairis Briedis, who previously served as a police officer in Rīga, turned professional in 2009.
22 January 2018 22:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Name Ismaikel "Mike" Pérez
Nickname(s) The Rebel
Weight(s) Cruiserweight
Heavyweight
Height 6 ft 1 in (185 cm)
Reach 76 in (193 cm)
Nationality Cuban
Born 20 October 1985 (age 32)
Sancti Spíritus, Cuba
Stance Southpaw
Boxing record
Total fights 26
Wins 22
Wins by KO 14
Losses 3
Draws 1
Huvitav elulugu:
"Perez was a successful amateur boxer in Cuba. In 2005, while competing with the Cuban team at a tournament in Liverpool, he caught the eye of Irish boxing promoter Gary Hyde. Hyde later expressed his desire to turn Perez professional, and to do that he had to arrange his defection from Cuba. In December 2007, under cover of darkness, Perez swam offshore from Cuba, to a boat manned by a Mexican cartel. After transferring through two other boats, enduring storms and depleted food and water supplies, Perez eventually reached Mexican soil nine days later. The Cartel then held him there, until they secured final payment from organizer, Gary Hyde. Upon receiving it, Perez was released, allowing him to board a flight to his new home. On January 10, 2008, Perez touched down in Ireland, where he settled in Cork along with fellow Cubans Alexei Acosta and Luis Garcia. Today, he fights under the nickname Mike "The Rebel" Perez, in reference to Cork which is known as the "Rebel County"
Nickname(s) The Rebel
Weight(s) Cruiserweight
Heavyweight
Height 6 ft 1 in (185 cm)
Reach 76 in (193 cm)
Nationality Cuban
Born 20 October 1985 (age 32)
Sancti Spíritus, Cuba
Stance Southpaw
Boxing record
Total fights 26
Wins 22
Wins by KO 14
Losses 3
Draws 1
Huvitav elulugu:
"Perez was a successful amateur boxer in Cuba. In 2005, while competing with the Cuban team at a tournament in Liverpool, he caught the eye of Irish boxing promoter Gary Hyde. Hyde later expressed his desire to turn Perez professional, and to do that he had to arrange his defection from Cuba. In December 2007, under cover of darkness, Perez swam offshore from Cuba, to a boat manned by a Mexican cartel. After transferring through two other boats, enduring storms and depleted food and water supplies, Perez eventually reached Mexican soil nine days later. The Cartel then held him there, until they secured final payment from organizer, Gary Hyde. Upon receiving it, Perez was released, allowing him to board a flight to his new home. On January 10, 2008, Perez touched down in Ireland, where he settled in Cork along with fellow Cubans Alexei Acosta and Luis Garcia. Today, he fights under the nickname Mike "The Rebel" Perez, in reference to Cork which is known as the "Rebel County"
22 January 2018 22:01
Margus Meigo replied to Ragnar Küü's comment.
Group: Valimised Eestis
sellistel vist päris suurt vahet poel mis erakonnas, nad nagu Diskorid hommiku programis,
kuigi jah... peale radikaalset vaimupuhastus,t mis patriootlikuse sisse süstiks, siis need mölalõuad oma tarkuse ja sorvausega saaks nii mõndagi tehtud22 January 2018 20:31
Margus Meigo replied to Türa Pea's comment.
Group: Valimised Eestis
lapsikud argumendid ka veel takkaotsa22 January 2018 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on Türa Pea's post.
Sööd inimliha siis ?
Nu jah, eks lihasööjad suures plaanis kõik kannibalid
Nu jah, eks lihasööjad suures plaanis kõik kannibalid
22 January 2018 12:04
Margus Meigo replied to Türa Pea's comment.
Group: Valimised Eestis
aa nu jaa, Sa seda usku lapsuke alles kes endiselt arvab, et Siin 10 milli endale sai,
nu mida sellise arengutasemega teha, piiranguid ka netti panna ei saa ju , veel,
Näe aga niigi tark see punane, et oma nimealt ei julge tulla22 January 2018 11:58
Margus Meigo commented on Türa Pea's post.
peab ikka ajust päris tita olema, et sellist jama uskuda
22 January 2018 11:57
Margus Meigo replied to Türa Pea's comment.
Group: Valimised Eestis
Mis jama Sa ajad nüüd, vastava nimega tegelane?22 January 2018 11:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
22 January 2018 05:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eksperiment: lavastused "Algus" ja "Lõpp" ühel õhtul
Vana hea õhtu ja hommik, üheskoos
http://www.endla.ee/uudised/naitus-armastusega-end-l-ale-laheb-oksjonile
Vana hea õhtu ja hommik, üheskoos
http://www.endla.ee/uudised/naitus-armastusega-end-l-ale-laheb-oksjonile
http://www.endla.ee/uudised/naitus-armastusega-end-l-ale-laheb-oksjonile
22 January 2018 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vat oleks http://bit.ly/Kinoteater , siis teaks
http://bit.ly/Kinoteater
22 January 2018 04:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
v oli ta 92
22 January 2018 04:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
22 January 2018 04:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(usud?)
22 January 2018 04:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuri naine, varem meigi järgi nadi loomuga, kuid teisipidi ka Duus ja armas kui nad nii teevad
22 January 2018 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
22 January 2018 04:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid kes arvas, et sajandi aega võtab
22 January 2018 04:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
et nii saaab olema luues selle sõnapaari, lootuses, et ka see lipsükspäev, saab läbi naguinii
22 January 2018 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and why not allow old picture editing info to see lasts images (viimaseid)
in fb, do they self got copy, do they keep or not, can we know?
in fb, do they self got copy, do they keep or not, can we know?
22 January 2018 04:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
arrgh, wish there was legal filter already to add full screen pixel change/protection,
so 5-stars would be changed out
so 5-stars would be changed out
22 January 2018 03:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
22 January 2018 03:53
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
Make sure to takeout the account archive, mine is over 3gb without large movies, send me only wall post, if can add group and other talks to, but main focus wall post
// Lol, seems 100 000 group people, growers,in international group, not afraid much :D
Can we imagine... where world took us from 70s?
// Lol, seems 100 000 group people, growers,in international group, not afraid much :D
Can we imagine... where world took us from 70s?
22 January 2018 03:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ikkagi osad laulud väga häirivad me meediaruumis Vaba v kuninglikriigis
22 January 2018 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kogu nende välismaa käik, kui kellegil on midagi, peab ja võib olla teadlik ja Nendele iniemstele saadetakse lint ka tihti või lugulau lsellest mis nendega juhtus, kes sääl käis nendesuunal sellist sipirtualistmuse puudlikust näitamas
22 January 2018 03:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või teadaoleva aksepteeritud, eestlasena
22 January 2018 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siin tuleb jälle vaata märgata, et need võivad olla pealesurutud kohustuslikud listist midagi, üldise programmi mõttes
Igaks juhuks alati kõike ebapärast ja eba määrast Eestlased kohe peale nooreks saamist märkama erivaldkondades on naturaalselt normaalses olukorras treenitud,
Muidu näitas, et iidsete perekondade kotkajahtjate pere au ülevalhoidminegi,viimaks üks mees ja üks naine..
kelle mõlema isad, vanaaja kütid, loodavad parimat (kuid kas nad armastusega kokku juhiti juba ETV poolt, veel teada, kas on?)
Kas need Jeebi mehed, kas need on teada, kas nad käisid ruunamas või mis moodi neisse vahepeal suhtuti, mida margnad sõbrad ja muud me lipuall tehtu
Igaks juhuks alati kõike ebapärast ja eba määrast Eestlased kohe peale nooreks saamist märkama erivaldkondades on naturaalselt normaalses olukorras treenitud,
Muidu näitas, et iidsete perekondade kotkajahtjate pere au ülevalhoidminegi,viimaks üks mees ja üks naine..
kelle mõlema isad, vanaaja kütid, loodavad parimat (kuid kas nad armastusega kokku juhiti juba ETV poolt, veel teada, kas on?)
Kas need Jeebi mehed, kas need on teada, kas nad käisid ruunamas või mis moodi neisse vahepeal suhtuti, mida margnad sõbrad ja muud me lipuall tehtu
22 January 2018 03:07
Margus Meigo replied to Ilmar Urb's comment.
Group: Kristlased
- selliste vigade puhul, Võib ja on lubatud näiteks Reaalsuse taastamine digitaalselt,
Näitkes ei ole pilt võltsitud ja sobib originaali pähe kui võtta see väike pildi osa ja kogu üljäänud kogu lehe suuruses võtta mingitl teiselt täisekranailt, ja kuupäeva mis nurgas iaukesena eeldatavasti muutuv norm olukordades, saab faili nimest nii füüsilist kui digit,22 January 2018 02:54
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22 January 2018 02:48
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(kuid ikkagi sõber soovitas arstile minna kui esimene päev keerab, teine päev kõrvetab ja kolmas päev häirib)
22 January 2018 02:44
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Kõige eismene kord sõin tundus pea imeline, suts midagi lõpus kuid .. tienekord juba oli seline et noo hea aga ....ja kolmas kord nagu endal juba eelnevalt vist oli olek ja siis..
..siis
jaa seee sin pole otseselt vaksali vastane is ,konkreetselt veel, kuid kui on kohtasi kus tehakse loomsete asjadega kokkupuutuvat toitu siis see võib olla hullem ja kahjulikum teatud olulistel hetkedel kui kärbseseene söömine
..siis
jaa seee sin pole otseselt vaksali vastane is ,konkreetselt veel, kuid kui on kohtasi kus tehakse loomsete asjadega kokkupuutuvat toitu siis see võib olla hullem ja kahjulikum teatud olulistel hetkedel kui kärbseseene söömine
22 January 2018 02:43
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Ja kartulid, ma loodan jõledusega et mitte, aga tundus, et nagu oleks pesemata (ehk looma rasvaga kokkupuutunud pesematta pann) (ega normaal panni ei pesta, aga kui teed jõledusi sääl siis on viisakas puhtatoidulisele andes see loomajäätmetest puhtaks teha kui selline kultuuuriline viga tehti täiesti tahtmatusest, arusaamatusest selle reaalsuse ees, siiralt siis pole ju midagi kui heasüdamega ja enam jumala eest nii ei tee.. aga ..)
22 January 2018 02:41
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Kui ise nii aitame teha ja otsustad,a sest see ju on nõustuda pea võimatu, et inimese vabatahe ja lipsukandmine saaksid kooskõlas lõpuni nii jäädagi, mis kasulikusega millises lõplikus ühiskonnas , kuhumaani me ajas ennast näitame
22 January 2018 02:35
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Group: Kristlased
ossa raks22 January 2018 02:28
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22 January 2018 02:22
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Group: Kristlased
olgugi, et pelakiri tundub paljulubavalt... ootamatult ..
see trik tehtud näiteks, meietasemel iniestest, inimestelt eestis,t et kui nad eriti võimast infot tahavad nada siis nad saavad seda anda sedasi, et kutsuvad kellegi omale kaebama mängides nii ärritavat ja siis selle laulu sisu pelakiri on see info mis edasianti,
// lihtsalt näide,
//mulle nedlae seda näidet paremini ümberkirtjutamiseks22 January 2018 02:20
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DIANA KRALL - East Of The Sun (And West Of The Moon)
- see muusika ei osbi sina praegusel ajal eriti ,mida me siin Chillime22 January 2018 02:18
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Nüüd mängivad mingit jampsu vist jälle eetris nu mikkes seda ma..uurin sele laulu sisu veel22 January 2018 02:18
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Kuid mis iganes pidi siis keegi sellese uskuda soovib heaalguski on ku i...
arvab, et see maailma reaalsuste energia sübolist kuni kõige labasema reaalse .. veel pole kindlaks saadud mis tunnetusega retsiaid.. nu neid kes jugeks täis arusaamise ja ettekujutlusega mõeld,a , mida seeaeg tehti ja mõeldi ja tunti kui seda tehti täis selles arusaama suuruses millega tegu oli, mis suuruses vaim siis ju maapeal ja inimestes oli , mis maailm siis ümber oli... et see tunnetuse tase, ettekujutada22 January 2018 02:13
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Et suund oleks Ristilik22 January 2018 02:11
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Mis siis saaks, kui teeks sellise arvuti, et vaadake see väike Maakera märk mis te sääl all näete,
selle le vajutades avaneks täis turvaline Arvutisüsteem koos kõiget moodi lisatavate kõikide asjadega22 January 2018 02:11
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siitmaalt liga oluline oli, eto lulist edasi kirjutad,a aga kuhu me jäimegi,
22 January 2018 02:01
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Me mõtlesime Alustuseks teadmiste all,
seda kuidas looduse suunas karskelt liikuda, niii karskelt et pareim lühilüli, see oleks nagu kaugjuhitav puldi või tarkvara asemel reaalne muudatus nupp või kang,
(mote, et meiel meeltesse söödetud, osad asjad tagurpidi, saab olla, et kui kaugelt meie suunas tullaks,e nagu planeete kaugelt meie poole ugedes need kes päiksesüsteemi teisipidi loendavad, ja vabandavad välja, et sellepärast loendavad nad Maa suunas, väljastpoolt, et viimane meelesuund jääks inimplaneedi, ainukese ELUkeskuse suunaliseks)
/osad pildid on ju niisama, ka et kirjeldamiseks keskonda lihtsalt
seda kuidas looduse suunas karskelt liikuda, niii karskelt et pareim lühilüli, see oleks nagu kaugjuhitav puldi või tarkvara asemel reaalne muudatus nupp või kang,
(mote, et meiel meeltesse söödetud, osad asjad tagurpidi, saab olla, et kui kaugelt meie suunas tullaks,e nagu planeete kaugelt meie poole ugedes need kes päiksesüsteemi teisipidi loendavad, ja vabandavad välja, et sellepärast loendavad nad Maa suunas, väljastpoolt, et viimane meelesuund jääks inimplaneedi, ainukese ELUkeskuse suunaliseks)
/osad pildid on ju niisama, ka et kirjeldamiseks keskonda lihtsalt
22 January 2018 02:00
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Not so important just for now nice to know and gives a lot of head-space to be more stable
22 January 2018 01:51
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Greetings to America anyway always, when comes out, they actually are prime ones who tho thank about computer presence but even if idea for what to use eventually becomes
Wonder, can We say now on Joining times, Can this when UK Estonin Saatkong ming välja Estkortis Päästmatulisest olukorrast, kas võib öelda nüüd, et seda asutust saab kutsuda nimega Estonian Ministry of Foreign Affairs / Välisministeerium
/ Palun vastake ka kuidagi
Wonder, can We say now on Joining times, Can this when UK Estonin Saatkong ming välja Estkortis Päästmatulisest olukorrast, kas võib öelda nüüd, et seda asutust saab kutsuda nimega Estonian Ministry of Foreign Affairs / Välisministeerium
/ Palun vastake ka kuidagi
22 January 2018 01:51
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22 January 2018 01:46
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Näib, et muretult lonkides, kuid ka see on vahest töö
22 January 2018 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nagu muretute inglite laul, kuniks tuleb see Päev
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeDh-xwlxM0
Valus niigi, seegi saab olla meil rohkem kui neil kui Meie oleksime see kes ootab olukorda kus saame paremaks teha ja kaasa haarata palju neid kes muidu ei tulekski aga kui asi normaalne on siis ärtavad oma tiivad, siis ju mõtet ja ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeDh-xwlxM0
Valus niigi, seegi saab olla meil rohkem kui neil kui Meie oleksime see kes ootab olukorda kus saame paremaks teha ja kaasa haarata palju neid kes muidu ei tulekski aga kui asi normaalne on siis ärtavad oma tiivad, siis ju mõtet ja ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeDh-xwlxM0
22 January 2018 01:44
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Pavlovist ERR is riigi TVs ka juttu praegu
22 January 2018 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Kerge pentagram ka päris räige kutil seljataga
21 January 2018 22:24
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Imdb ing keelne kirjelduse lõpp on ka nii kuis peab:
"Mati is an assistant in TV studio. Patiently he has waited for his time to become a TV star but seems that he has to wait forever. One day an alien called Tipp is sent on Earth (by its chief Tapp) to find out the purpose of Estonian children's TV show "Tipp and Tapp". Tipp nestles himself inside Mati's brains that leads the man to unpredictable actions. The bit-slow and zany comedy is based mostly on real characters of the Estonian National TV in 1960-ies, that is the most funny point in the film. However, no presence of an alien has still officially been confirmed."
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0447654/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl
Directed by
Jaak Kilmi Writing Credits (in alphabetical order)
Urmas Vadi Cast (in credits order)
Tiit Sukk Tiit Sukk ...
Mati
Raivo E. Tamm Raivo E. Tamm ...
Valdo Pant
Peeter Oja Peeter Oja ...
Tipp
Ülle Kaljuste Ülle Kaljuste ...
Tädi Rutt
Maria Avdjushko Maria Avdjushko ...
Piret
Rainer Rehkli Rainer Rehkli ...
Artur
Heino Torga Heino Torga ...
Leopold Piip
Andrus Vaarik Andrus Vaarik ...
Karl Vaino
Kalju Orro Kalju Orro ...
Hardi Tiidus
Robert Gutman Robert Gutman ...
Toivo
Anne Paluver Anne Paluver ...
Loti
Hendrik Toompere Sr. Hendrik Toompere Sr. ...
Närviarst (as Hendrik Toompere)
Ines Aru Ines Aru ...
Õde
Lembit Ulfsak Lembit Ulfsak ...
Aju
Ingrid Tõniste Ingrid Tõniste ...
Diktor
Mati Sepping Mati Sepping ...
Juhtoperaator
Ain Nurmela Ain Nurmela ...
Kunstnik
Karin Martinson Karin Martinson ...
Assistent
Rahel Hankewitz Rahel Hankewitz ...
Direktori sekretär
Siim Soop Siim Soop ...
Jeesus
Eda Zahharov Eda Zahharov ...
Eeslaulja
Merle Randma-Aru Merle Randma-Aru ...
Naaber
Raimo Pass Raimo Pass ...
Naaber
Ausie Ausie ...
Pluto
The Kiss The Kiss ...
Themselves
Liina Amon Liina Amon ...
Herself - member of The Kiss
Aleksandra Anstal Aleksandra Anstal ...
Herself - member of The Kiss
Mingo Rajandi Mingo Rajandi ...
Herself - member of The Kiss
Priitahtlike Pritsimeeste Pasuna Poiste Punt Priitahtlike Pritsimeeste Pasuna Poiste Punt ...
Themselves
Rest of cast listed alphabetically:
Marko Kaljuveer Marko Kaljuveer ...
Miilits
Ilmar Raag Ilmar Raag ...
Teletöötaja
Liina Randpere Liina Randpere ...
Televaataja
Mihkel Robam Mihkel Robam ...
Teletöötaja
Produced by
Andres Arro ... executive producer
Gerda Kordemets ... producer Cinematography by
Janno-Hans Arro Film Editing by
Tambet Tasuja Production Design by
Ain Nurmela Costume Design by
Inga Vares Makeup Department
Jana Janson ... makeup artist Second Unit Director or Assistant Director
Helen Valkna ... assistant director Art Department
Kristo Jürmann ... art department assistant Sound Department
Ants Andreas ... sound designer
Olger Bernadt ... sound recordist
Oleg Davidovitsh ... sound editor Camera and Electrical Department
Jüri Hindremäe ... gaffer
Ülo Josing ... still photographer
Mihkel Robam ... best boy
Rivo Sarapik ... still photographer
Vello Vilms ... lighting technician Editorial Department
Rainer Kask ... on-line editor
Tambet Tasuja ... on-line editor Other crew
Renee Kelomees ... computer graphic artist
Marianne Ostrat ... production assistant
"Mati is an assistant in TV studio. Patiently he has waited for his time to become a TV star but seems that he has to wait forever. One day an alien called Tipp is sent on Earth (by its chief Tapp) to find out the purpose of Estonian children's TV show "Tipp and Tapp". Tipp nestles himself inside Mati's brains that leads the man to unpredictable actions. The bit-slow and zany comedy is based mostly on real characters of the Estonian National TV in 1960-ies, that is the most funny point in the film. However, no presence of an alien has still officially been confirmed."
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0447654/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl
Directed by
Jaak Kilmi Writing Credits (in alphabetical order)
Urmas Vadi Cast (in credits order)
Tiit Sukk Tiit Sukk ...
Mati
Raivo E. Tamm Raivo E. Tamm ...
Valdo Pant
Peeter Oja Peeter Oja ...
Tipp
Ülle Kaljuste Ülle Kaljuste ...
Tädi Rutt
Maria Avdjushko Maria Avdjushko ...
Piret
Rainer Rehkli Rainer Rehkli ...
Artur
Heino Torga Heino Torga ...
Leopold Piip
Andrus Vaarik Andrus Vaarik ...
Karl Vaino
Kalju Orro Kalju Orro ...
Hardi Tiidus
Robert Gutman Robert Gutman ...
Toivo
Anne Paluver Anne Paluver ...
Loti
Hendrik Toompere Sr. Hendrik Toompere Sr. ...
Närviarst (as Hendrik Toompere)
Ines Aru Ines Aru ...
Õde
Lembit Ulfsak Lembit Ulfsak ...
Aju
Ingrid Tõniste Ingrid Tõniste ...
Diktor
Mati Sepping Mati Sepping ...
Juhtoperaator
Ain Nurmela Ain Nurmela ...
Kunstnik
Karin Martinson Karin Martinson ...
Assistent
Rahel Hankewitz Rahel Hankewitz ...
Direktori sekretär
Siim Soop Siim Soop ...
Jeesus
Eda Zahharov Eda Zahharov ...
Eeslaulja
Merle Randma-Aru Merle Randma-Aru ...
Naaber
Raimo Pass Raimo Pass ...
Naaber
Ausie Ausie ...
Pluto
The Kiss The Kiss ...
Themselves
Liina Amon Liina Amon ...
Herself - member of The Kiss
Aleksandra Anstal Aleksandra Anstal ...
Herself - member of The Kiss
Mingo Rajandi Mingo Rajandi ...
Herself - member of The Kiss
Priitahtlike Pritsimeeste Pasuna Poiste Punt Priitahtlike Pritsimeeste Pasuna Poiste Punt ...
Themselves
Rest of cast listed alphabetically:
Marko Kaljuveer Marko Kaljuveer ...
Miilits
Ilmar Raag Ilmar Raag ...
Teletöötaja
Liina Randpere Liina Randpere ...
Televaataja
Mihkel Robam Mihkel Robam ...
Teletöötaja
Produced by
Andres Arro ... executive producer
Gerda Kordemets ... producer Cinematography by
Janno-Hans Arro Film Editing by
Tambet Tasuja Production Design by
Ain Nurmela Costume Design by
Inga Vares Makeup Department
Jana Janson ... makeup artist Second Unit Director or Assistant Director
Helen Valkna ... assistant director Art Department
Kristo Jürmann ... art department assistant Sound Department
Ants Andreas ... sound designer
Olger Bernadt ... sound recordist
Oleg Davidovitsh ... sound editor Camera and Electrical Department
Jüri Hindremäe ... gaffer
Ülo Josing ... still photographer
Mihkel Robam ... best boy
Rivo Sarapik ... still photographer
Vello Vilms ... lighting technician Editorial Department
Rainer Kask ... on-line editor
Tambet Tasuja ... on-line editor Other crew
Renee Kelomees ... computer graphic artist
Marianne Ostrat ... production assistant
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0447654/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl
21 January 2018 20:58
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21 January 2018 20:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Psühiaater "Teie mehel on marsielanik peas.... näe tuuseldab siin ringi.. nu võib ka olla kasvaja"
(nüüd valigu inim psüühika ja usk kumba soovib eks)
(nüüd valigu inim psüühika ja usk kumba soovib eks)
21 January 2018 20:49
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muidugi ise ainult kuulnud ja ei kuule, kuid nu ega hea on, et ei kuule, muidu saadetaks kuule ja tegevused tugevamailtki sätitaks muule suundadele, kui see mida tehtud loodame saadud,
õnneks pidevalt hea tajuda, kui suurt ja palju unes või ilmsi siin maiselt või tavaliste läbi nii reaalselt kui lootuses, siin paremaks tehakse.
Ja ei ole meil arvata, vaja, et meil Norra tulnarite sõjapropakandat vaja lugema hakata, kui siis ainult enda karastamiseks ja teravmeelsuse teravndamiseks
õnneks pidevalt hea tajuda, kui suurt ja palju unes või ilmsi siin maiselt või tavaliste läbi nii reaalselt kui lootuses, siin paremaks tehakse.
Ja ei ole meil arvata, vaja, et meil Norra tulnarite sõjapropakandat vaja lugema hakata, kui siis ainult enda karastamiseks ja teravmeelsuse teravndamiseks
21 January 2018 20:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"k´Küll see televisioon on tiirane paik"
.- H. Kriimsilm
.- H. Kriimsilm
21 January 2018 20:44
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ka seda, et maal olles inimesed tulnarid tundma on pannud ja sis läbi selle, igast muid tundetute olendite algplaanid muutunud
21 January 2018 20:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Intelligentselt veel see osa seostatud, kokkuvõtvalt, et tulnarid kes peas, see ammu teada inimestel, kuid, et Tädi ruti nukud juhuslikult sarnased kui kagebeelased-marslased.tulnarid.
Ega need nukud nüüd sõnaotseses mõttes olema pea, kuid kogu muu teema küll, väga kõrgtaseme tarkused kokku tikitud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og7poFeOCB8&list=PLFF6586D3CAB19871
Ega need nukud nüüd sõnaotseses mõttes olema pea, kuid kogu muu teema küll, väga kõrgtaseme tarkused kokku tikitud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og7poFeOCB8&list=PLFF6586D3CAB19871
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og7poFeOCB8&list=PLFF6586D3CAB19871
21 January 2018 20:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või "varsti"
21 January 2018 18:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mõnel on kindlasti mitmed haridused ja ühenduse düle ilma,
ja siis ühtegi päris hoolivat inimest ja sõpru pole käepärast võtta kellel pooltki aju oleks selles osas mida soovitada hinge, valu ja tunnete või vaimu-lodevuse probleemide osas.
Sslamisi muidugi kade ka,mida head ise kõik teeks ja näeks.. kogu selle nänniostmise asemel, ...
viimase veerand veerandsajandist ajajooksul suurost sai pea 50 euro ringis tehtud tarvete ja toidu osas, tujutõstmiseks
nooo kuid ega nii alati saa, veel selles ajastus,
aga varsti
ja siis ühtegi päris hoolivat inimest ja sõpru pole käepärast võtta kellel pooltki aju oleks selles osas mida soovitada hinge, valu ja tunnete või vaimu-lodevuse probleemide osas.
Sslamisi muidugi kade ka,mida head ise kõik teeks ja näeks.. kogu selle nänniostmise asemel, ...
viimase veerand veerandsajandist ajajooksul suurost sai pea 50 euro ringis tehtud tarvete ja toidu osas, tujutõstmiseks
nooo kuid ega nii alati saa, veel selles ajastus,
aga varsti
21 January 2018 18:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey teistkordne esitlus tundus juba meeldivam
21 January 2018 17:59
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
21 January 2018 17:30
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
nu ega ei tasualaväärsuskompleksis meil Eestlastel olla nii kergekäeliselt,
kindlasti meil igalühel ka omad väärtused milles särame
kindlasti meil igalühel ka omad väärtused milles särame
21 January 2018 17:16
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
Asu Sa usulainel hoopis või ?
--
Mõtlesin, et kui mõtlesid "sellist"
Lüürika sisu mõttes, videolise värvifiltrite osas, tantsulises osas, kultuurilises osas, popfenomeni-toodangu osas, biidi osas?
--
Kuigi mul siis juba häiris, et miks nad "hit me one more time.." et see kultuurilises programeerimises kindlasti parim valik polnud kuigi sisse murdis ikka kuid mis hinnaga
--
Mõtlesin, et kui mõtlesid "sellist"
Lüürika sisu mõttes, videolise värvifiltrite osas, tantsulises osas, kultuurilises osas, popfenomeni-toodangu osas, biidi osas?
--
Kuigi mul siis juba häiris, et miks nad "hit me one more time.." et see kultuurilises programeerimises kindlasti parim valik polnud kuigi sisse murdis ikka kuid mis hinnaga
21 January 2018 17:12
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
Mis sa "sellise" all täpsemalt mõtlesid ?
21 January 2018 17:10
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
Mida praegu siis kuulad?
Kuulama eip peagi, arvustada, kritiseerida saab ikka : )
Kuulama eip peagi, arvustada, kritiseerida saab ikka : )
21 January 2018 17:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
For English readers: it was for a protection, if Britney
21 January 2018 17:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Või oli see "laula mu laulu"
ei ole nii kursis node saadetega peale aegaegse meeleärrituse
ei ole nii kursis node saadetega peale aegaegse meeleärrituse
21 January 2018 17:07
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
Finally someone calls up the soviet bullocks
21 January 2018 15:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Oi Oi minu viga ka sinna otsa veel,
täiesti veendunult nägin, et Apple uudis oli see,
ja nüüd vaatan, oligi Vivo..
Hmm, Huvitav !
täiesti veendunult nägin, et Apple uudis oli see,
ja nüüd vaatan, oligi Vivo..
Hmm, Huvitav !
21 January 2018 04:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
21 January 2018 03:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Siin ka huvitavaid pealkirju:
https://thehackernews.com/search/label/Fingerprint%20security%20system
veelgi rohkem siit:
https://thehackernews.com/search/label/biometric%20security
https://thehackernews.com/search/label/Fingerprint%20security%20system
veelgi rohkem siit:
https://thehackernews.com/search/label/biometric%20security
https://thehackernews.com/search/label/Fingerprint%20security%20system
21 January 2018 03:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu eks nad räägivad jah et see alles nüüd ebaturvaliseks muutunud, kuid reaalselt juba 5 aastat tagasi Caose häk klubi koduste vahenditega tõestasid kui lihtne on sisse saada, kui neil kuskil ainult su sõrmejälg silma jääb.. nu kasvõi telefonilt endalt...
2013 "Apple's iPhone Fingerprint Reader Successfully Hacked
"
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/09/apples_iphone_f.html
2013 "Apple's iPhone Fingerprint Reader Successfully Hacked
"
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/09/apples_iphone_f.html
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/09/apples_iphone_f.html
21 January 2018 03:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey, 10 aastat tagasi see oli küll algeline suts.. aga reklaamida 2018 nagu see uus leiutis neil oleks on küll suts alatu Appey poolt... kuigi nu Appli puhul kelle firma eesirjadesse sissse kirjutatud, et head ei tehta, heategevust... võib nii mõndagi uskuda
21 January 2018 03:19
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Sirge's post.
Naah.. ma arvasin, et need ammu olemas.. nii umbes 10 aastat tagasi...
Ahjaa, oligi:
"Touch ID is a fingerprint recognition feature, designed and released by Apple Inc.
" It has been part of all iPhones since 2013's iPhone 5S up until 2017's iPhone 8 and 8 Plus; it has been on all iPads since the iPad Air 2. In 2015, Apple introduced a faster second-generation Touch ID in the iPhone 6S; a year later, it made its laptop debut in the MacBook Pro. "
// kuid kui apple tahab müügitrikki teha siis ikka uuesti uunedatud versioonid öeldakse, nagu uus leiutis, ise ostsid selel teiselt mobiili firmalt, 10+ a tagasi.
"The first mobile phone with a fingerprint scanner was the Toshiba G500 and G900 in 2007. In 2012, Apple acquired AuthenTec, a company focused on fingerprint reading and identification management software, for $356 million. The acquisition led commentators to expect a fingerprint reading feature. Following leaks and speculation in early September,[4][5] the iPhone 5S was unveiled on September 10, 2013, was the first phone on a major US carrier since the Atrix to feature the technology.[6] Apple's Vice President of Marketing, Phil Schiller, announced the feature at Apple's iPhone media event and spent several minutes (the major portion of the conference) discussing the feature.
Following Apple's introduction in 2013, other smartphone makers included fingerprint scanning in their high-end phones during 2014 and 2015,[7] starting with the Samsung Galaxy S5. Beginning with Android 6.0 (Android Marshmallow, released October 2015), fingerprint scanner support is integrated into the operating system like Touch ID is in iOS."
https://www.gsmarena.com/toshiba_g900-1905.php
Siin on umbes üle 600 erineva telefoni veel millel sõrmejäljelugeja ammu:
https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?idFingerprint=1
Ahjaa, oligi:
"Touch ID is a fingerprint recognition feature, designed and released by Apple Inc.
" It has been part of all iPhones since 2013's iPhone 5S up until 2017's iPhone 8 and 8 Plus; it has been on all iPads since the iPad Air 2. In 2015, Apple introduced a faster second-generation Touch ID in the iPhone 6S; a year later, it made its laptop debut in the MacBook Pro. "
// kuid kui apple tahab müügitrikki teha siis ikka uuesti uunedatud versioonid öeldakse, nagu uus leiutis, ise ostsid selel teiselt mobiili firmalt, 10+ a tagasi.
"The first mobile phone with a fingerprint scanner was the Toshiba G500 and G900 in 2007. In 2012, Apple acquired AuthenTec, a company focused on fingerprint reading and identification management software, for $356 million. The acquisition led commentators to expect a fingerprint reading feature. Following leaks and speculation in early September,[4][5] the iPhone 5S was unveiled on September 10, 2013, was the first phone on a major US carrier since the Atrix to feature the technology.[6] Apple's Vice President of Marketing, Phil Schiller, announced the feature at Apple's iPhone media event and spent several minutes (the major portion of the conference) discussing the feature.
Following Apple's introduction in 2013, other smartphone makers included fingerprint scanning in their high-end phones during 2014 and 2015,[7] starting with the Samsung Galaxy S5. Beginning with Android 6.0 (Android Marshmallow, released October 2015), fingerprint scanner support is integrated into the operating system like Touch ID is in iOS."
https://www.gsmarena.com/toshiba_g900-1905.php
Siin on umbes üle 600 erineva telefoni veel millel sõrmejäljelugeja ammu:
https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?idFingerprint=1
https://www.gsmarena.com/toshiba_g900-1905.php
21 January 2018 03:18
Margus Meigo commented on Berit Masso's photo.
Nu on ikka reaalsed julmurid ja olendid ka olemas, kelle Töö on olla julm.. ega siis kõik nende vasta nii pahad olnud pole..
21 January 2018 02:55
Margus Meigo commented on Gina Hadjiyerou's post.
Thank You : )
21 January 2018 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
On küll!
Praeleib on üldse omamoodi klass!
Praeleib on üldse omamoodi klass!
21 January 2018 02:31
Margus Meigo commented on Taavi Timm's post.
Aitäh : )
20 January 2018 13:56
Margus Meigo replied to Janno Kuldkepp's comment.
eks toitumishäire muidu ka lisab tooni, kunagi siis lihasöömise ajal, oli söömisega nii ulme, et haigla viidi usas, sund toitmisesse,
ja siis ka avastasin, et puuviljad läksid alla aga loomrasvane eip läinud
ja siis ka avastasin, et puuviljad läksid alla aga loomrasvane eip läinud
20 January 2018 10:46
Margus Meigo replied to Janno Kuldkepp's comment.
(arusaanud, et üldiselt on toitumist vastavalt tegevusele vaja ja kõikesõõjal üldislt suurt ei häiri mida iganes süüa kuid kui olla miskites toimetamistes (tugevalt vaimses mõttes) siis mingid reeglid mis saab olla vereringes ja mis mitte erisuguste kanalduste või suhtluse, info kättesaamise mõttes, tunnetanud, et mida kergem, mida vähem loomi orjastanud - linde röövinud, seda turvalisem ja kergem tundub . Kuid eks ma alles 5 aasta pärast hakkan jõudma sinnamaani, et saan süüa mis soovin ja tead mida soovin ja söön mida vaja
// nu kui resurssi oleks jõhvikaid, mustikaid, muid marje ja pähkleid )
// nu kui resurssi oleks jõhvikaid, mustikaid, muid marje ja pähkleid )
20 January 2018 10:39
Margus Meigo replied to Janno Kuldkepp's comment.
kuid teoorias, ei peaks vajalik olema ka inimesele, lõpuks.
20 January 2018 10:34
Margus Meigo replied to Janno Kuldkepp's comment.
kohupiim üldiselt ka meeldib
20 January 2018 10:33
Margus Meigo replied to Janno Kuldkepp's comment.
st ma arvasin, et vb keha keemiliselt, aktiviseerub mingi muu toimetamise kui teistsorti toite süüa & mõtteid mõelda,
kuid see uurimine alles algusjärgus nii 5+ aastat, siin sääl näinud küll neid mõtteid ja jutte, kuid veel pole päris kindlalt midagi taolist näinud mis ütleks kindlalt nii või naa
kuid see uurimine alles algusjärgus nii 5+ aastat, siin sääl näinud küll neid mõtteid ja jutte, kuid veel pole päris kindlalt midagi taolist näinud mis ütleks kindlalt nii või naa
20 January 2018 10:30
Margus Meigo replied to Janno Kuldkepp's comment.
Vot seda polegi päriselt läbi ammustanud, kas päriselt ka vaja on v ... tõesti, silgu järgi vahest kutsunud küll mõtted.
Kuid kohanud Eestis ka juba neljandat põlve taimetoitlasi.. ja mõelnud, et kui nad saanud hakkama kenasti..
Mõtlen just selles mõttes ka, et kuigi suures plaanis on vaja enamustes eludes, ehk on mingid teistsugused keha toimimised olemas, võimalikud, mis saavad ainult siis ennast sinnamaani aktiviseerida, kui teaud aineid ei söö.
Kusjuures, kala osas isegi vähem muret tundub kui muna.
Sisemist ülesviskamise mõtet ja "serpant" mõtted munaga seoses pähe tulevad,
see, et kala on raibe suures plaanis, see ei häirigi nii palju kuid kuna kollane kohe kindlasti ei taha minna alla.
Nu kuni pannkoogini... siis ununeb ajutiselt kiresti, et linnupesast võetud :p
Kuid kohanud Eestis ka juba neljandat põlve taimetoitlasi.. ja mõelnud, et kui nad saanud hakkama kenasti..
Mõtlen just selles mõttes ka, et kuigi suures plaanis on vaja enamustes eludes, ehk on mingid teistsugused keha toimimised olemas, võimalikud, mis saavad ainult siis ennast sinnamaani aktiviseerida, kui teaud aineid ei söö.
Kusjuures, kala osas isegi vähem muret tundub kui muna.
Sisemist ülesviskamise mõtet ja "serpant" mõtted munaga seoses pähe tulevad,
see, et kala on raibe suures plaanis, see ei häirigi nii palju kuid kuna kollane kohe kindlasti ei taha minna alla.
Nu kuni pannkoogini... siis ununeb ajutiselt kiresti, et linnupesast võetud :p
20 January 2018 10:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Although being conscious is part of all this, it is only part. Those
portions of the mind that function below, parallel to, or above the
conscious mind are just as, and often more important, in walking the
spiritual path. We will address this important point in greater detail
in Section 5.
Also, as in all other departments of human life, friends and partners
often play important roles in the unfolding drama of our selfdevelopment.
Those who help us most are those sympathetic to and
supportive of our highest vision, whether they intellectually or
verbally understand it or not. Because if they support us, they do in
a profound sense understand.
If they are unsympathetic or antipathetic to our highest vision, we
should seek companionship elsewhere while we are able, or otherwise
we may become so weakened in our highest resolves that we
gradually give them up and postpone our growth perhaps indefinitely
And also, as Ostanes, the Mage of Persia and Egypt, said from
his own experience: "It is not to the false friend or to the faithless
confidant that one should reveal sacred teachings. And I have prayed
to the immortals not to let the meaning of such words penetrate the
ears of the foolish - much less the untrustworthy. For this transmission
is divinely granted and reserved to the worthy. The art of selftransformation
is not given to everyone/7
A word to the wise is
sufficient here.
http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Charles%20Muses%20-%20Eternal%20Door%20(Users%20manual%20for%20the%20Lion%20Path).pdf
portions of the mind that function below, parallel to, or above the
conscious mind are just as, and often more important, in walking the
spiritual path. We will address this important point in greater detail
in Section 5.
Also, as in all other departments of human life, friends and partners
often play important roles in the unfolding drama of our selfdevelopment.
Those who help us most are those sympathetic to and
supportive of our highest vision, whether they intellectually or
verbally understand it or not. Because if they support us, they do in
a profound sense understand.
If they are unsympathetic or antipathetic to our highest vision, we
should seek companionship elsewhere while we are able, or otherwise
we may become so weakened in our highest resolves that we
gradually give them up and postpone our growth perhaps indefinitely
And also, as Ostanes, the Mage of Persia and Egypt, said from
his own experience: "It is not to the false friend or to the faithless
confidant that one should reveal sacred teachings. And I have prayed
to the immortals not to let the meaning of such words penetrate the
ears of the foolish - much less the untrustworthy. For this transmission
is divinely granted and reserved to the worthy. The art of selftransformation
is not given to everyone/7
A word to the wise is
sufficient here.
http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Charles%20Muses%20-%20Eternal%20Door%20(Users%20manual%20for%20the%20Lion%20Path).pdf
20 January 2018 05:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#" As the times get more desperate and dangerous, so greater forces of higher-than-human protection will become more accessible to us. It is however the heart that must ultimately guide as Musaios wrote in the following litany:
Set not the heart on anything,
Let not the subject rule the king.
Set not the heart on anything,
But let the heart grow, laugh and sing.
Love, not learning, finds the way,
Opens the eyes to the doors of the day,
Uncovers the wonders of undreamed sights
And leads the way to the wisdom heights.
https://books.google.ee/books?id=_WmmmgFYYLgC&pg=PT78&lpg=PT78&dq=Musaios+love&source=bl&ots=88AC6K77eb&sig=MW6fEXUaFltOt4rbCV-fGfyBpVI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjVmNH2xuXYAhXIKFAKHZ4fA8wQ6AEINjAC#v=onepage&q=Musaios%20love&f=false
Set not the heart on anything,
Let not the subject rule the king.
Set not the heart on anything,
But let the heart grow, laugh and sing.
Love, not learning, finds the way,
Opens the eyes to the doors of the day,
Uncovers the wonders of undreamed sights
And leads the way to the wisdom heights.
https://books.google.ee/books?id=_WmmmgFYYLgC&pg=PT78&lpg=PT78&dq=Musaios+love&source=bl&ots=88AC6K77eb&sig=MW6fEXUaFltOt4rbCV-fGfyBpVI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjVmNH2xuXYAhXIKFAKHZ4fA8wQ6AEINjAC#v=onepage&q=Musaios%20love&f=false
https://books.google.ee/books?id=_WmmmgFYYLgC&pg=PT78&lpg=PT78&dq=Musaios+love&source=bl&ots=88AC6K77eb&sig=MW6fEXUaFltOt4rbCV-fGfyBpVI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjVmNH2xuXYAhXIKFAKHZ4fA8wQ6AEINjAC#v=onepage&q=Musaios%20love&f=false
20 January 2018 05:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
noored ka samal ajal ühe ja teise nurgapealt:
https://youtu.be/kYqriiO_0n0?t=3907
https://youtu.be/kYqriiO_0n0?t=3907
https://youtu.be/kYqriiO_0n0?t=3907
20 January 2018 04:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kõik see loomulikult Jumala(v)alguses ka vaadata
20 January 2018 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
teine pool küsimusest päris selge
20 January 2018 04:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
them as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF5ZaZWx0oo
"There is a vast realm of existence beyond our human societies on earth: a reality of higher-than-human communities already existing in higher dimensional worlds. These beings are of a more mysterious and advanced evolutionary level than our own, and are endowed with capabilities vastly surpassing ours. The worlds they inhabit are based upon a symbiotic rather than a predatory ecology - on a quite different and more advanced kind of nature than could exist here on earth: a nature lifted up out of the agonizing trap of predation.
The great question animating all the life forms in a symbiotic ecology is not the struggle for survival and Who eats whom? but How does one express love and wisdom in action? These are the qualities of Heart, Head and Hand, all acting in Harmony. The Lion Path is the map and living road from here to there, providing the answer to this vital question. It is a journey to a transformed environment and an ecological community surpassing the farthest reaches of our present senses and imagination. All beings on earth who have made a lasting connection with the energies of the first 45 sessions of the Lion Path now have a living map within themselves - one that bestows a vital ongoing connection with every type of world within our cosmos, and is accessible within the deepest reaches of the superconscious mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF5ZaZWx0oo
"There is a vast realm of existence beyond our human societies on earth: a reality of higher-than-human communities already existing in higher dimensional worlds. These beings are of a more mysterious and advanced evolutionary level than our own, and are endowed with capabilities vastly surpassing ours. The worlds they inhabit are based upon a symbiotic rather than a predatory ecology - on a quite different and more advanced kind of nature than could exist here on earth: a nature lifted up out of the agonizing trap of predation.
The great question animating all the life forms in a symbiotic ecology is not the struggle for survival and Who eats whom? but How does one express love and wisdom in action? These are the qualities of Heart, Head and Hand, all acting in Harmony. The Lion Path is the map and living road from here to there, providing the answer to this vital question. It is a journey to a transformed environment and an ecological community surpassing the farthest reaches of our present senses and imagination. All beings on earth who have made a lasting connection with the energies of the first 45 sessions of the Lion Path now have a living map within themselves - one that bestows a vital ongoing connection with every type of world within our cosmos, and is accessible within the deepest reaches of the superconscious mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF5ZaZWx0oo
20 January 2018 04:27
Margus Meigo replied to Sirje Salmiste's comment.
kas tõesti võimalik, et juba aidnud on tolle närimine, panin igemele ka nagu need mokatubaka moelised, mõtlesin, et vb vitamiin vms värskus vereringesse paremini ulatub
20 January 2018 03:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
20 January 2018 03:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See aeg võib ka olematu olla eriti kui ennast ise teise aega mis Su mineviku ümber kirjutab tõsta lased
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eriti sellises ühiskonnas kus ajasreisimine on ametlikult keelatud läbi taimede keelustamise ja selle olemas olust mitte rääkimine muul kui tehnilis-teoreetilises kontekstis
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eriti sellises ühiskonnas kus ajasreisimine on ametlikult keelatud läbi taimede keelustamise ja selle olemas olust mitte rääkimine muul kui tehnilis-teoreetilises kontekstis
20 January 2018 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kas on õige tahta, st
neid väärtusi järgmises inimeses, mis Sa juba tead, et on head?
neid väärtusi järgmises inimeses, mis Sa juba tead, et on head?
20 January 2018 03:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Sinujuures, Eesti!
//heaküll, poolikuks jäi natuke,
mida siis Eestlasena teed, peale Youtube, kust leiad täis pika?
//oletame, et on olemas versione mida pole veel youtbes olemas
//heaküll, poolikuks jäi natuke,
mida siis Eestlasena teed, peale Youtube, kust leiad täis pika?
//oletame, et on olemas versione mida pole veel youtbes olemas
20 January 2018 03:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
et olukordasi on Eestiski olnud, kus uued naise don vihase,d üleolevad või negatiivsed mehe eelmiste naiste suunas ja
jja ise nad veel tagatippu närusemalt käituvad ning pole pooltki head suurustes veel koos läbielanud,
miks siis ennast nii väikselt ja kibestunult okalisena tunda, et rünnata neid kelle olemus teadmatu.
samas pärisnaised ise mees ikka arvab, peaks ju teadma ja arusaama, et ke s ja mis oli ja on hea ja kas on sobilik tolle asja peale nääksudagi, eestimeelsel?
jja ise nad veel tagatippu närusemalt käituvad ning pole pooltki head suurustes veel koos läbielanud,
miks siis ennast nii väikselt ja kibestunult okalisena tunda, et rünnata neid kelle olemus teadmatu.
samas pärisnaised ise mees ikka arvab, peaks ju teadma ja arusaama, et ke s ja mis oli ja on hea ja kas on sobilik tolle asja peale nääksudagi, eestimeelsel?
20 January 2018 03:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see eks ka omakorda node andmekonteinerite kaudu muude, suhetebaasi jma
20 January 2018 03:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu mis sa koopas teed, elad koopa moodi,
Kuid eks ikka ,... ku ituleb aeg ku i saan elada oma marjade, looduse, heade kangaste ja lõhnade keskel...
mmm.. küll see loodusepuhas suvi ka tuleb nii ilus, et selletajumine hingamist muudab,
kuid nu eks päriseestlastel ole hing pidevalt sees või nööripidi kaelas
Kuid eks ikka ,... ku ituleb aeg ku i saan elada oma marjade, looduse, heade kangaste ja lõhnade keskel...
mmm.. küll see loodusepuhas suvi ka tuleb nii ilus, et selletajumine hingamist muudab,
kuid nu eks päriseestlastel ole hing pidevalt sees või nööripidi kaelas
20 January 2018 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
küll ma vastused ise ka leia neile asjadele, kui siia kirja paneme, leiame kui vaja uuesit, kuid endale meeldejätmise platforme kust saad arvutisse ja siis sellest edasi kohtadessegi salvestada, neid asju kindlasti uurige,
moned jutuajamisedki pilt iväärt ise mis toimunud on, aiuüksi kauges ajaloos lugeda kui ka lähi aegades, üldse kui mingi rahva võimalike olemusi ja jutustiile,
et neid uuesti ellu kutusda või ärahoida, ku ivaja
moned jutuajamisedki pilt iväärt ise mis toimunud on, aiuüksi kauges ajaloos lugeda kui ka lähi aegades, üldse kui mingi rahva võimalike olemusi ja jutustiile,
et neid uuesti ellu kutusda või ärahoida, ku ivaja
20 January 2018 02:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid inimesed vahest arvamahakkavat, et kui teab ühte siis peab teist ka teadma,
kuid see pole muidugi sama kui ühte-teist teada...
kuiig, ka see on suht-enamasti hea
kuni ühteteist teadjad väheste teamdiste ja suure hulga teadmiste osas peetakse enamuses ebavajalikuks kui olemas juba on need kes teavad ühte ja teist või hästi ning on need kes ei pea vaevama kõike seda teadma ning tegelema elu loomisega, mõni aitab maaanteed majadele teha looduslikku mõni emand või noor omavoliliselt hulga neid valib kellele otse kätte toob tarvilisi teadmisi
kohe olulisi ja alates mehekooslusest, noored mõlemad pidi suur teadvuses, tõsidusega, tarkuse vabatahlikes uskumiste klubides
kuid see pole muidugi sama kui ühte-teist teada...
kuiig, ka see on suht-enamasti hea
kuni ühteteist teadjad väheste teamdiste ja suure hulga teadmiste osas peetakse enamuses ebavajalikuks kui olemas juba on need kes teavad ühte ja teist või hästi ning on need kes ei pea vaevama kõike seda teadma ning tegelema elu loomisega, mõni aitab maaanteed majadele teha looduslikku mõni emand või noor omavoliliselt hulga neid valib kellele otse kätte toob tarvilisi teadmisi
kohe olulisi ja alates mehekooslusest, noored mõlemad pidi suur teadvuses, tõsidusega, tarkuse vabatahlikes uskumiste klubides
20 January 2018 02:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui sa saad paki kulleritl siis Sa ei pea teadma ega mõtlegi teada kogu kulleri palganud inimeste elutausta ja maailmavaadet, tegusi ja ajalugu, mis nende kontodel ja mis nad ühest või teisest asjast arvavad,
samamoodi on ka sõnumite pakettidega mis tulevad, healjuhul mõned sildidki kaasas
samamoodi on ka sõnumite pakettidega mis tulevad, healjuhul mõned sildidki kaasas
20 January 2018 02:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
trump võib ju arvata et ta järgminekord võidab, tal uued masinad ja tarkused, kuid kes pool sellest andis
20 January 2018 02:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(ja nüüd tasetarusaades, mõtle mis tase on neil koigil Eeestlaatel nii sellsites kohtades olla ja lasta endasugustega taolisteusgusel siin üritusi teha me suunas..)
20 January 2018 02:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
me enda lehes ja arvutimaailmas ikka
20 January 2018 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ahjaa siin portaalis ja borowserite koostöös need värvid veel valikutes, otoamas, kuid küll nad tulevad
20 January 2018 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see on see elementaarne miinimum millestalates, tuleks hakata üldse rääkima Eestlastest, kui vähegi mingi reaalsuse mitte palati tasemel koosvibimisi ja rääkimisi teha, nu südameski selle suuuna arusaama peab hoidma ja kuidas siis kohanduda ja siin aegades õigesajas asjad korda sättid,a mis su töö on, peale selle, et hea olla, tee midagi mis tundub hea
20 January 2018 02:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
maaall ja peal, ülevalgi vahest kindlalt tundub nii, või nadgi, eestlaste poolt õpetatud, sääl üleval
20 January 2018 02:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Seda Eestlased teevad sedasi moodi, et loovad vihjeid, arusaame ja mõtteid andes kõigile ümberingi läbi mitme inimeste ja koostöö, unes ja ilmsi
20 January 2018 02:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
ei mis sala, saladus las olla pealekauba kuid siis kui see ise tekib
20 January 2018 01:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
et selline suts veider on osati vahepeal,
nu eks see ka et ühtepidi kiuline, tundub rohkem kui aitab kaasa ja teine hoiab tagasi
nu eks see ka et ühtepidi kiuline, tundub rohkem kui aitab kaasa ja teine hoiab tagasi
20 January 2018 01:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
postituse sees mis saab täisekraanile tõmmata ja arvutiHalduris saad pärastpoolegi ajaloos mis iganes summa lahtiseid ja vaadatud arvuteid uurida, nende suurema koguse puhul omakorda veel grupib ise katekooriaid ajutiselt, lisaks kuupäeva ja elementaarse ise enda sätitud vaate järgi
20 January 2018 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja nii saab ka, et see mis eelmisel pildil näitad, see elementaarne virtuaal arvuti seotud misiganes võrgu ja su arvuti füüsilise koopiaga....
20 January 2018 01:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu ja siis pildi kanilisus teisel pildil... kuid see oleks juba costum filter, ja täiesti tehtav meiesugustes portaalides
20 January 2018 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
20 January 2018 01:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eg, normal at first had to assume good was good and this who is good also agrees with it, in most cases and wants to be in friendly sector , strongly friend-ed,
20 January 2018 01:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i mean, would be irational with strong ipractical indicator by first hand,
why chold man choose opinion that good was other then Good and demand equal respect
why chold man choose opinion that good was other then Good and demand equal respect
20 January 2018 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
20 January 2018 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to Lilika Ly's comment.
Hmm, mul küll vast alati, kui mäletan, ette ennustatud olekuga see kui keegi kuskilt kaitsest mul miski pisik läbi on lipsanud..
Kuid eks näis kas jõuan ta nüüd võita selle tõbisuse enne kui päriselt kohale jõuab, just väga oluline asi vaja ka teha homme-ülehomme uue elamise elamiskõlblikuks sättimise osas.. urrh.. mitte, et palju häid aegu oleks tõbisuse jaoks, kuid mõned ajad ikka on nadimad kui teised
Kuid eks näis kas jõuan ta nüüd võita selle tõbisuse enne kui päriselt kohale jõuab, just väga oluline asi vaja ka teha homme-ülehomme uue elamise elamiskõlblikuks sättimise osas.. urrh.. mitte, et palju häid aegu oleks tõbisuse jaoks, kuid mõned ajad ikka on nadimad kui teised
20 January 2018 00:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kujutage ette mis neist iniemstest saab kes kõike ebasobivat armastussetoovad..
NU muidugi, ma ei saa siin suurt edu ka kuulutada, ise pole ju saanud võitu ei kummaski
ja seega võiks ju öelda, et see "teooria", et "kõik pole lubatud", ei pea paika... kuid ... sellegi poolest, pigem kaotan õigesti .,
kui see õiglaslik käitumine,-mõtlemine ei toogi välja kaotusest,
kuid siis jääb tunnegi alles, et ... oleme alati õigete teel ja seega selles grupis kes teeviidaks ja valguseks, eraldamaks kõigest muust õigeid.
Muidiugi päris mitu maiset olulist asja veel on, milles osas eiptea, kas see on lubatud ja õige, armastuse teel, olgugi, et kõik soovid ja plaanid head.. eks neid asju, kui võimalik, teelolles veel õpib
NU muidugi, ma ei saa siin suurt edu ka kuulutada, ise pole ju saanud võitu ei kummaski
ja seega võiks ju öelda, et see "teooria", et "kõik pole lubatud", ei pea paika... kuid ... sellegi poolest, pigem kaotan õigesti .,
kui see õiglaslik käitumine,-mõtlemine ei toogi välja kaotusest,
kuid siis jääb tunnegi alles, et ... oleme alati õigete teel ja seega selles grupis kes teeviidaks ja valguseks, eraldamaks kõigest muust õigeid.
Muidiugi päris mitu maiset olulist asja veel on, milles osas eiptea, kas see on lubatud ja õige, armastuse teel, olgugi, et kõik soovid ja plaanid head.. eks neid asju, kui võimalik, teelolles veel õpib
20 January 2018 00:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
KUid yeah.. arupeab saama, ARMASTUSES.. on ainult pareim lubatud,
nii elementaarne,
kui keegi üpäris armastuse osas reaalselt mõtleb ja arusaab, et armastuse sisu on arengu kõrgeimaid astmeid kus oled teadlik kogu oma tegude ja isiksuse mõtete igakülgsest läbinähtavusest Jumala otsese koostööliste poolt, nagunii, alustuseks.
Kus saad aru, et edasi saad aiult siis, kui õigesti toimetad... muidu võid kuksile maale jõuda, kuid kas see on see lõplik lõpp või pead korra veel ümbersündima mitte vabas valikus kuhu ja kuidas, vaid kasvamistuurile..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGVZOLV9SPo
nii elementaarne,
kui keegi üpäris armastuse osas reaalselt mõtleb ja arusaab, et armastuse sisu on arengu kõrgeimaid astmeid kus oled teadlik kogu oma tegude ja isiksuse mõtete igakülgsest läbinähtavusest Jumala otsese koostööliste poolt, nagunii, alustuseks.
Kus saad aru, et edasi saad aiult siis, kui õigesti toimetad... muidu võid kuksile maale jõuda, kuid kas see on see lõplik lõpp või pead korra veel ümbersündima mitte vabas valikus kuhu ja kuidas, vaid kasvamistuurile..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGVZOLV9SPo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGVZOLV9SPo
20 January 2018 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidu viiskas vastus expertidelt:
"
down vote
accepted
The concept behind the phrase is that some areas of life are so important and overwhelming that you cannot blame someone for acting in their own best interest. For war, this implies that spies, torture, lying, backstabbing, making deals with enemies, selling out allies, bombing civilians, wounding instead of killing, and so on are "fair game" in the sense that by taking these options off of the table you are only hurting yourself: Your opponent has no reason to comply to your moral standards. (This entire concept is mostly void with regards to the current political atmosphere of Earth. Countries have actually declared certain things taboo with regards to war — with mixed success.)
The point of adding love to the list is likely to compare it to war. There are two main subtexts here. The first and most relevant is the idea that you can wreak all the havoc you want during the pursuit of true love. This includes sabotaging the third side in a love triangle or using deceit and trickery to woo the object of your affection (including hiding past lovers from them).
The second is the viewpoint that ongoing love between two people is akin to a battle that results in a dominant winner. The stereotypical gender wars are similar to this. A man and woman are in love, but a certain unease comes with the territory, and pulling one over on your spouse is fair game because, in the end, all is fair in love and war. For what it is worth, this last point is probably more of a causality (i.e., an unintended, natural consequence) of the individual words in the phrase than any original intended meaning. Most people probably don't immediately think of this type of behavior as matching up with the phrase until after they need an excuse for their actions."
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/29659/can-someone-explain-the-phrase-all-is-fair-in-love-and-war
"
down vote
accepted
The concept behind the phrase is that some areas of life are so important and overwhelming that you cannot blame someone for acting in their own best interest. For war, this implies that spies, torture, lying, backstabbing, making deals with enemies, selling out allies, bombing civilians, wounding instead of killing, and so on are "fair game" in the sense that by taking these options off of the table you are only hurting yourself: Your opponent has no reason to comply to your moral standards. (This entire concept is mostly void with regards to the current political atmosphere of Earth. Countries have actually declared certain things taboo with regards to war — with mixed success.)
The point of adding love to the list is likely to compare it to war. There are two main subtexts here. The first and most relevant is the idea that you can wreak all the havoc you want during the pursuit of true love. This includes sabotaging the third side in a love triangle or using deceit and trickery to woo the object of your affection (including hiding past lovers from them).
The second is the viewpoint that ongoing love between two people is akin to a battle that results in a dominant winner. The stereotypical gender wars are similar to this. A man and woman are in love, but a certain unease comes with the territory, and pulling one over on your spouse is fair game because, in the end, all is fair in love and war. For what it is worth, this last point is probably more of a causality (i.e., an unintended, natural consequence) of the individual words in the phrase than any original intended meaning. Most people probably don't immediately think of this type of behavior as matching up with the phrase until after they need an excuse for their actions."
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/29659/can-someone-explain-the-phrase-all-is-fair-in-love-and-war
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/29659/can-someone-explain-the-phrase-all-is-fair-in-love-and-war
20 January 2018 00:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ikka veel loodan, et valmistud nii pika ajapeale pärisvastust ka,
See oleks ilus
See oleks ilus
19 January 2018 23:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
Sain veel Sellise vastuse:
"Eesti Lastemisjon Kuna lasteleht on vahepeal edasi arenenud ja uue kuue saanud, siis on ka sisu natuke oma kohta vahetanud. Vanaisa piiblilugude kuuldemänge on võimalik leida piiblilugude juurest, KUULA alamlehe alt: nt http://lasteleht.ee/jutud/piiblilood/kuidas-maailm-alguse-sai/ . Lisame neid jõudu mööda lehele juurde. :) Kõikide lugude saamiseks võiks pöörduda otse autori enda poole - Timo Lige (meediamisjon.ee)
Sõbrad, kellele meeldib Timo Lige muusika
"http://lasteleht.ee/jutud/piiblilood/kuidas-maailm-alguse-sai/
19 January 2018 23:33
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Kirsimägi's comment.
Olge õnnistatud!
19 January 2018 23:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Pole nii shamaani ajaloo rikast lehte veel näinutki, üks väheseid siin weebis mis silmevahele jäänud vast..
Shamanismi infot nii naljalt ikka eip jagata
Kuid mlle pole knagi küsimus, kas on tõsi, vaid kuidas see tõtte mahutada
samalajal mahutades tõde mõistes sisemiseltrohkem rohkem nagu ()
http://www.lionpath.net/lionpath.html
wau, ilus!
Kahju, et selle erilisust selgitada veel eip suuda muudele ilmadele
Shamanismi infot nii naljalt ikka eip jagata
Kuid mlle pole knagi küsimus, kas on tõsi, vaid kuidas see tõtte mahutada
samalajal mahutades tõde mõistes sisemiseltrohkem rohkem nagu ()
http://www.lionpath.net/lionpath.html
wau, ilus!
Kahju, et selle erilisust selgitada veel eip suuda muudele ilmadele
http://www.lionpath.net/lionpath.html
19 January 2018 18:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Note that because the nerve paths cross as they pass through the cervical region, the left or heart side of the body corresponds to the right or solar eye, and to the right brain; while the right side of the body corresponds to the left eye and to the left hemisphere of the brain. So the left hand and right eye go together, as do the right hand and the left or lunar eye. According to the most ancient teaching, the Sun pertains to the left (heart) or female side of the body, and the Moon to the right, male and physically stronger side. Thus the sun rules the left side of the body and the moon the right side.
This is confirmed in one of the oldest shamanic ceremonies of the Na-khi people of Western China. There in the ritual of Wua-bpa T'su (from the book Dzu Wua-bpo), as the ancient Na-khi cosmology is recounted, two lines specifically say:
When the Sun came forth on the left, it was hot.
On the right, when the Moon rose, it was bright.
Reconnecting the Inner Sun and the Moon
It is by following the shamanic path that we can bring the sun and moon within us back into partnership and harmony. Then the light of the sun or higher self can pour down into us and illuminate all our actions even whilst we remain in molecular bodies. There is still more to be said here. Since it is the function of the lunar strand of the self to seek out and rejoin the solar strand, even if the other strand be in a higher dimension not subject to mortality, it is hence necessary for the male or lunar strand to be able to move interdimensionally and so be able to join in the vibrant unity of the now reconstituted higher self. Some years ago a poem came to me (Musaios) that I did not fully understand but which is germane now. I called it The Song of One to One. It is the wedding song of the two interwoven strands of the self:
You are in the root of me
I am in the root of you
You are in the blossoming of me
I am in the blossoming of you
The you that is in me
The I that is in you
That you
That I
is the sacred one
Our Ever-Living Heart
that gave and gives
and ever gives us Life.
For the you that is in me
is the I that is in you -
Twin flowers, each the other's root
This is confirmed in one of the oldest shamanic ceremonies of the Na-khi people of Western China. There in the ritual of Wua-bpa T'su (from the book Dzu Wua-bpo), as the ancient Na-khi cosmology is recounted, two lines specifically say:
When the Sun came forth on the left, it was hot.
On the right, when the Moon rose, it was bright.
Reconnecting the Inner Sun and the Moon
It is by following the shamanic path that we can bring the sun and moon within us back into partnership and harmony. Then the light of the sun or higher self can pour down into us and illuminate all our actions even whilst we remain in molecular bodies. There is still more to be said here. Since it is the function of the lunar strand of the self to seek out and rejoin the solar strand, even if the other strand be in a higher dimension not subject to mortality, it is hence necessary for the male or lunar strand to be able to move interdimensionally and so be able to join in the vibrant unity of the now reconstituted higher self. Some years ago a poem came to me (Musaios) that I did not fully understand but which is germane now. I called it The Song of One to One. It is the wedding song of the two interwoven strands of the self:
You are in the root of me
I am in the root of you
You are in the blossoming of me
I am in the blossoming of you
The you that is in me
The I that is in you
That you
That I
is the sacred one
Our Ever-Living Heart
that gave and gives
and ever gives us Life.
For the you that is in me
is the I that is in you -
Twin flowers, each the other's root
19 January 2018 18:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Features that occur over and over again in the context of sun-goddess religions are sacred caves where the sun hides and is rejuvenated, often by a divine mirror power. Mirrors as ritual objects, sometimes in the form of bowls that were filled with water, have been found in ancient Sun-Goddess sites in Britain and Ireland, Egypt, Korea and Siberia. They were associated with shamanic or theurgic religion and hence also with the healing arts. Why was this so?
A clue lies in the legend of Amaterasu, the Sun Goddess of Shinto, the oldest religion of Japan. When outraged by the attacks and insults of Her evil brother Susano-o, She retreated into a cave, taking with Her the source of light for the whole world, whereupon it turned into a place of darkness. The smith-goddess and shamaness, Ishikoredome, then fashioned a mirror in which Amaterasu's refulgent beauty could be fully beheld. This magical mirror reflecting Her glory encouraged Amaterasu to emerge from her cave and restore light to the world.
The ostensible reason given in the legend for the Sun Goddess coming forth is that She was attracted by the beauteous image in the mirror, which seems trivial. The shamanic reality runs deeper. All shamanic journeys beyond this world depend on the powers of the inner sun and moon in the shaman (the two caduceal strands of the self) being brought together, forming the basis of a higher non-molecular body. Thus the magical mirror is clearly a ritual and symbolic representation of the full Moon, when the Sun's radiance fully illuminates it and the two are joined harmoniously in a divine marriage or hieros gamos. Thus when Amaterasu's mirror, symbol of the Lunar-Self strand reunited with the Solar Strand, is shown to Her, She emerges from the cave of darkness and heals the world.
The power of reflection is linked with an interdimensional transfer and journey. We have pointed out elsewhere that reflection in a mirror embodies not simply a 180-degree rotation through three-dimensional space, but actually goes through a four-dimensional space and back into our 3D-space. This fact has not even been noticed in some mathematical treatises because they were simply concerned with the end result in our three-dimensional space, the reflected image that we see, and so overlooked the subtle interdimensional process causing that image.
All this suggests that the ancient bowls associated with Sun-Goddess sites (e.g. Newgrange near Loughcrew, Ireland) were filled with water, and then, like mirrors, used to symbolize the Moon's power to reflect the solar effulgence. However, lunar mirrors were not only reflectors, since they could also re-direct and focus rays from the solar source. Re-directing and focusing power are male functions, explaining further why in the most ancient traditions the Sun was female and the Moon male.
A clue lies in the legend of Amaterasu, the Sun Goddess of Shinto, the oldest religion of Japan. When outraged by the attacks and insults of Her evil brother Susano-o, She retreated into a cave, taking with Her the source of light for the whole world, whereupon it turned into a place of darkness. The smith-goddess and shamaness, Ishikoredome, then fashioned a mirror in which Amaterasu's refulgent beauty could be fully beheld. This magical mirror reflecting Her glory encouraged Amaterasu to emerge from her cave and restore light to the world.
The ostensible reason given in the legend for the Sun Goddess coming forth is that She was attracted by the beauteous image in the mirror, which seems trivial. The shamanic reality runs deeper. All shamanic journeys beyond this world depend on the powers of the inner sun and moon in the shaman (the two caduceal strands of the self) being brought together, forming the basis of a higher non-molecular body. Thus the magical mirror is clearly a ritual and symbolic representation of the full Moon, when the Sun's radiance fully illuminates it and the two are joined harmoniously in a divine marriage or hieros gamos. Thus when Amaterasu's mirror, symbol of the Lunar-Self strand reunited with the Solar Strand, is shown to Her, She emerges from the cave of darkness and heals the world.
The power of reflection is linked with an interdimensional transfer and journey. We have pointed out elsewhere that reflection in a mirror embodies not simply a 180-degree rotation through three-dimensional space, but actually goes through a four-dimensional space and back into our 3D-space. This fact has not even been noticed in some mathematical treatises because they were simply concerned with the end result in our three-dimensional space, the reflected image that we see, and so overlooked the subtle interdimensional process causing that image.
All this suggests that the ancient bowls associated with Sun-Goddess sites (e.g. Newgrange near Loughcrew, Ireland) were filled with water, and then, like mirrors, used to symbolize the Moon's power to reflect the solar effulgence. However, lunar mirrors were not only reflectors, since they could also re-direct and focus rays from the solar source. Re-directing and focusing power are male functions, explaining further why in the most ancient traditions the Sun was female and the Moon male.
19 January 2018 18:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Streong info..
"The Sun resembles the Ovum, the Moon resembles the Sperm. Modern observations support assigning the Sun to the feminine and the Moon to the masculine. Under the microscope the non-mobile ovum (propelled through the fallopian tubes but not by its own motion) looks like a sun with its many rays of living protoplasm emanating from its spherical surface. The motile sperm reflects the swift motion of the Moon as it propels itself in successive crescent-shaped waves. Also, under the micro-scope, the ovum appears more red and the sperm more white, confirming the old tradi-tions of tantric Hinduism as these are the two colours of the solar Kali and the lunar Shiva. They are also the colours of their pair of yogic channels pingala and ida, not to mention the pair of red and white tinctures in the central doctrine of the transformation of the soul in alchemy.
Affirming the assignation of the Moon to the male, it is the impregnation cycle in the human female which is controlled by the Moon, the directing of impregnation being a male function. That not obvious but straightforward relation of the male lunar power with the female menstrual cycle often led to the understandable error of taking the Moon to be female. That error is further pointed up by the fact that in cultures like those of the Buriats of Western Mongolia, the Greenlanders, Maori and Nigerians, it is believed that the Moon could impregnate women. Thus women of the Greenlanders had the custom that they would not sleep outside under the moonlight unless they had rubbed spittle on their bellies beforehand to prevent the Moon's impregnation. The Maori held that the Moon was the true and permanent husband of all women, more important than the mortal spouse.
The Moon is the initiating or fertilizing power of impregnation. It thus directs the tides of women's menstrual or monthly (the latin mens means "month") cycle because the lunar force determines the peaks of fertility - the crests of most likely impregnation and the troughs of its least likelihood. Thus the lunar power of impregnation orbits around the solar egg. These ancient truths reappeared in the age of chivalry, when the entire adventurous journeying of a knight revolved around his fealty to his lady.
"The Sun resembles the Ovum, the Moon resembles the Sperm. Modern observations support assigning the Sun to the feminine and the Moon to the masculine. Under the microscope the non-mobile ovum (propelled through the fallopian tubes but not by its own motion) looks like a sun with its many rays of living protoplasm emanating from its spherical surface. The motile sperm reflects the swift motion of the Moon as it propels itself in successive crescent-shaped waves. Also, under the micro-scope, the ovum appears more red and the sperm more white, confirming the old tradi-tions of tantric Hinduism as these are the two colours of the solar Kali and the lunar Shiva. They are also the colours of their pair of yogic channels pingala and ida, not to mention the pair of red and white tinctures in the central doctrine of the transformation of the soul in alchemy.
Affirming the assignation of the Moon to the male, it is the impregnation cycle in the human female which is controlled by the Moon, the directing of impregnation being a male function. That not obvious but straightforward relation of the male lunar power with the female menstrual cycle often led to the understandable error of taking the Moon to be female. That error is further pointed up by the fact that in cultures like those of the Buriats of Western Mongolia, the Greenlanders, Maori and Nigerians, it is believed that the Moon could impregnate women. Thus women of the Greenlanders had the custom that they would not sleep outside under the moonlight unless they had rubbed spittle on their bellies beforehand to prevent the Moon's impregnation. The Maori held that the Moon was the true and permanent husband of all women, more important than the mortal spouse.
The Moon is the initiating or fertilizing power of impregnation. It thus directs the tides of women's menstrual or monthly (the latin mens means "month") cycle because the lunar force determines the peaks of fertility - the crests of most likely impregnation and the troughs of its least likelihood. Thus the lunar power of impregnation orbits around the solar egg. These ancient truths reappeared in the age of chivalry, when the entire adventurous journeying of a knight revolved around his fealty to his lady.
19 January 2018 18:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Interesting:
"Why the Sun is Feminine and the Moon Masculine
In many religions there are male sun gods, but they actually appeared quite late on the scene, when male priesthoods became dominant over the older priestesshoods of the Sun Goddess. They tried to downgrade the power of the feminine by assigning it to the Moon of lesser light, claiming the power and brightness of the Sun for themselves. That is why later Sanskrit-related languages (e.g. Latin, Greek, French, Italian and Portuguese), assign a masculine gender to the Sun and a feminine to the Moon. Whereas in older languages of the same Indo-European family (e.g. Sanskrit, German and old Goidelic) the Moon is masculine and the Sun feminine. Similarly, in the very ancient, pre-Babylonian Sumerian tongue, the word for moon is explicitly masculine, as it is in Arabic, in which the word for "sun" is feminine.
Thus, underneath the surface of later male-dominant cults, there is a worldwide wealth of evidence of a much older and puissant Sun Goddess, as well as of a Moon God. The Tuvan shamans agree, as witness the following two excerpts from the rich manuscript collection of Mongush Kenin-Lopsan, the shaman scholar of Tuva, who single-handedly revived shamanism there after it had almost been persecuted to death in the Stalinist era. The excerpts were related respectively by Kertek Okaan and Mongush Senden in 1990 and recorded by Kenin-Lopsan: "
http://www.lionpath.net/zwoelf.html
"Why the Sun is Feminine and the Moon Masculine
In many religions there are male sun gods, but they actually appeared quite late on the scene, when male priesthoods became dominant over the older priestesshoods of the Sun Goddess. They tried to downgrade the power of the feminine by assigning it to the Moon of lesser light, claiming the power and brightness of the Sun for themselves. That is why later Sanskrit-related languages (e.g. Latin, Greek, French, Italian and Portuguese), assign a masculine gender to the Sun and a feminine to the Moon. Whereas in older languages of the same Indo-European family (e.g. Sanskrit, German and old Goidelic) the Moon is masculine and the Sun feminine. Similarly, in the very ancient, pre-Babylonian Sumerian tongue, the word for moon is explicitly masculine, as it is in Arabic, in which the word for "sun" is feminine.
Thus, underneath the surface of later male-dominant cults, there is a worldwide wealth of evidence of a much older and puissant Sun Goddess, as well as of a Moon God. The Tuvan shamans agree, as witness the following two excerpts from the rich manuscript collection of Mongush Kenin-Lopsan, the shaman scholar of Tuva, who single-handedly revived shamanism there after it had almost been persecuted to death in the Stalinist era. The excerpts were related respectively by Kertek Okaan and Mongush Senden in 1990 and recorded by Kenin-Lopsan: "
http://www.lionpath.net/zwoelf.html
http://www.lionpath.net/zwoelf.html
19 January 2018 18:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Different Genders, Different Personalities: Male and Female Aspects of the Moon
A study of colonial period sources, Pre-Columbian iconography, and ethnographic data shows us the different roles played by male and female lunar deities. The multiplicity of lunar deities may reflect the many personalities of the moon as it undergoes a transformation over the course of a month and disappears for a short period during the new moon phase "
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" In Egyptian mythology, hares were closely associated with the cycles of the moon, which was viewed as masculine when waxing and feminine when waning. Therefore, hares were believed to be androgynous, shifting back and forth between the genders. A hare-headed god and goddess can be seen on the Egyptian temple walls of Dendera, where the goddess is believed to be Unut, while the god is most likely a representation of Osiris who was sacrificed to the Nile annually in the form of a hare. This belief continued up to the 18th century European folklores.
In the Aztec story of the creation of the sun and moon, Tecuciztecatl, the future moon, threw himself into the fire following the newly transformed sun. In his depictions, Tecuciztecatl wore the xicolli ( sleeveless jacket) of a priest, which indicates a masculine role. However, a parallel creation legend in the Leyenda de los Soles brings out a female quality in the description of the moon god who sings and dances Iike a woman. The moon rabbit is an insignia of both male and female lunar deities in the Classic Maya period.
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Of course, no one saw the “bunny girl”. However, even after the first moon landing decades ago, we still see the moon as a somewhat mysterious place with a wide-ranging variety of beings living in it—from aliens, gods and goddesses to rabbits! Many of the most well-known mythologies feature moon goddesses, such as the Greek goddesses Selene and Artemis as well as, of course, China’s Chang’e.
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Much interesting articles in here:
http://www.ancient-origins.net/moon
A study of colonial period sources, Pre-Columbian iconography, and ethnographic data shows us the different roles played by male and female lunar deities. The multiplicity of lunar deities may reflect the many personalities of the moon as it undergoes a transformation over the course of a month and disappears for a short period during the new moon phase "
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" In Egyptian mythology, hares were closely associated with the cycles of the moon, which was viewed as masculine when waxing and feminine when waning. Therefore, hares were believed to be androgynous, shifting back and forth between the genders. A hare-headed god and goddess can be seen on the Egyptian temple walls of Dendera, where the goddess is believed to be Unut, while the god is most likely a representation of Osiris who was sacrificed to the Nile annually in the form of a hare. This belief continued up to the 18th century European folklores.
In the Aztec story of the creation of the sun and moon, Tecuciztecatl, the future moon, threw himself into the fire following the newly transformed sun. In his depictions, Tecuciztecatl wore the xicolli ( sleeveless jacket) of a priest, which indicates a masculine role. However, a parallel creation legend in the Leyenda de los Soles brings out a female quality in the description of the moon god who sings and dances Iike a woman. The moon rabbit is an insignia of both male and female lunar deities in the Classic Maya period.
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Of course, no one saw the “bunny girl”. However, even after the first moon landing decades ago, we still see the moon as a somewhat mysterious place with a wide-ranging variety of beings living in it—from aliens, gods and goddesses to rabbits! Many of the most well-known mythologies feature moon goddesses, such as the Greek goddesses Selene and Artemis as well as, of course, China’s Chang’e.
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Much interesting articles in here:
http://www.ancient-origins.net/moon
http://www.ancient-origins.net/moon
19 January 2018 18:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"An ancient legend says a beautiful Chinese girl called Chang-O has been living there for 4,000 years. It seems she was banished to the Moon because she stole the pill of immortality from her husband.."
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Chang'e or Chang-o, originally known as Heng'e,[a] is the Chinese goddess of the Moon. She is the subject of several legends in Chinese mythology, most of which incorporate several of the following elements: Houyi the archer, a benevolent or malevolent emperor, an elixir of life and the Moon. In modern times, Chang'e has been the namesake of the Chinese Lunar Exploration Program.
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Chang'e was mentioned in a conversation between Houston Capcom and the Apollo 11 crew just before the first Moon landing in 1969
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// võtavad oma legende tõsiselt ja rahvuslikult
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There are many tales about Chang'e, including a well-known story which is given as the origin of the Mid-Autumn Moon Festival.[1] In a very distant past, ten suns had risen together into the skies and scorched the earth, thus causing hardship for the people.[1] The archer Yi shot down nine of them, leaving just one sun, and was given the elixir of immortality as a reward.[1] He did not consume it straight away, but hid it at home, as he did not want to gain immortality without his beloved wife Chang'e.[1] However, while Yi went out hunting, Fengmeng broke into his house and tried to force Chang'e to give him the elixir; she refused and drank it herself.[1] Chang'e then flew upwards towards the heavens, choosing the moon as residence.[1] Yi discovered what had transpired and felt sad, so he displayed the Fruits and Cakes that Chang'e had liked, and gave sacrifices to her
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The recently rediscovered divination text Guizang contains the story of Chang'e as a story providing the meaning to Hexagram 54 of the I Ching, "Returning Maiden"
On Mid-Autumn Day, the full Moon night of the eighth lunar month, an open-air altar is set up facing the Moon for the worship of Chang'e. New pastries are put on the altar for her to bless. She is said to endow her worshipers with beauty.
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http://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/gods-goddesses-and-rabbits-surprising-ancient-myths-moon-007635
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Chang'e or Chang-o, originally known as Heng'e,[a] is the Chinese goddess of the Moon. She is the subject of several legends in Chinese mythology, most of which incorporate several of the following elements: Houyi the archer, a benevolent or malevolent emperor, an elixir of life and the Moon. In modern times, Chang'e has been the namesake of the Chinese Lunar Exploration Program.
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Chang'e was mentioned in a conversation between Houston Capcom and the Apollo 11 crew just before the first Moon landing in 1969
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// võtavad oma legende tõsiselt ja rahvuslikult
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There are many tales about Chang'e, including a well-known story which is given as the origin of the Mid-Autumn Moon Festival.[1] In a very distant past, ten suns had risen together into the skies and scorched the earth, thus causing hardship for the people.[1] The archer Yi shot down nine of them, leaving just one sun, and was given the elixir of immortality as a reward.[1] He did not consume it straight away, but hid it at home, as he did not want to gain immortality without his beloved wife Chang'e.[1] However, while Yi went out hunting, Fengmeng broke into his house and tried to force Chang'e to give him the elixir; she refused and drank it herself.[1] Chang'e then flew upwards towards the heavens, choosing the moon as residence.[1] Yi discovered what had transpired and felt sad, so he displayed the Fruits and Cakes that Chang'e had liked, and gave sacrifices to her
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The recently rediscovered divination text Guizang contains the story of Chang'e as a story providing the meaning to Hexagram 54 of the I Ching, "Returning Maiden"
On Mid-Autumn Day, the full Moon night of the eighth lunar month, an open-air altar is set up facing the Moon for the worship of Chang'e. New pastries are put on the altar for her to bless. She is said to endow her worshipers with beauty.
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http://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/gods-goddesses-and-rabbits-surprising-ancient-myths-moon-007635
http://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/gods-goddesses-and-rabbits-surprising-ancient-myths-moon-007635
19 January 2018 18:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
interesting
"At the end of the play, Nature chooses to punish Stesias, Pandora's husband, because he is so easily swayed by the opinions of others. He is condemned to "be...her slave, and follow her in the moon." His punishment is to always follow Pandora, but never to act on his anger towards her or inflict pain upon her"
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The play is set in the world of Greek mythology, at the time of the very beginning of the human race, when the first woman was not yet created. A personified goddess of Nature, accompanied by Concord and Discord ("For Nature works her will from contraries"), descends to a pastoral Earth inhabited by four shepherds. At their petition, Nature breathes life into a clothed statue of the first woman. Concord seals her soul to her body with an embrace, and the new woman is given the best gifts of the seven planets of traditional astronomy and astrology. She is named Pandora.
The seven planets, however, are unhappy that Pandora has been given their best qualities, and decide to spite Nature with a malevolent demonstration of their power. Saturn, the eldest, goes first: seating himself on a throne, he afflicts Pandora with his characteristic melancholy. The shepherds meet Pandora when she is suffering this baleful influence; when one tries to kiss her hand, she hits him across the lips. She treats the rest as badly, then runs away. Saturn leaves his throne at the end of the first act, pleased with the mess he's made.
Jupiter assumes the throne at the start of Act II. He inspires Pandora with ambition, vanity, and superciliousness – so much so that she obtains his sceptre and tosses it to Juno when the queen of the gods comes in search of her husband (he hides himself in a cloud). Pandora inflicts her pride upon the hapless shepherds: she orders them to behead a wild boar, promising her glove to the man who brings the trophy to her. Mars takes over from Jupiter, turning Pandora into a "vixen martialist." The shepherds fight over the dead boar and the right to Pandora's glove – but she grabs a spear and bests them all.
Sol, the Sun, takes over at the start of Act III; for a change, his influence is largely beneficial. Pandora becomes "gentle and kind," and chooses Stesias, one of the shepherds, as her husband. But then comes Venus's turn: Joculus inspires dancing, Cupid shoots his arrows, and romantic disruptions follow. Mercury succeeds Venus in Act IV; he makes Pandora "false and full of sleights, / Thievish and lying, subtle, eloquent...." By Act V, under the influence of Luna, Pandora simply runs mad. Stesias is fed up by now, and the other shepherds want nothing to do with Pandora, even when the seven planetary deities have restored her sanity. With no place for her on Earth, the planets vie for the distinction of taking Pandora up to their individual spheres; Pandora chooses Luna, since they are both inherently changeable.
"At the end of the play, Nature chooses to punish Stesias, Pandora's husband, because he is so easily swayed by the opinions of others. He is condemned to "be...her slave, and follow her in the moon." His punishment is to always follow Pandora, but never to act on his anger towards her or inflict pain upon her"
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The play is set in the world of Greek mythology, at the time of the very beginning of the human race, when the first woman was not yet created. A personified goddess of Nature, accompanied by Concord and Discord ("For Nature works her will from contraries"), descends to a pastoral Earth inhabited by four shepherds. At their petition, Nature breathes life into a clothed statue of the first woman. Concord seals her soul to her body with an embrace, and the new woman is given the best gifts of the seven planets of traditional astronomy and astrology. She is named Pandora.
The seven planets, however, are unhappy that Pandora has been given their best qualities, and decide to spite Nature with a malevolent demonstration of their power. Saturn, the eldest, goes first: seating himself on a throne, he afflicts Pandora with his characteristic melancholy. The shepherds meet Pandora when she is suffering this baleful influence; when one tries to kiss her hand, she hits him across the lips. She treats the rest as badly, then runs away. Saturn leaves his throne at the end of the first act, pleased with the mess he's made.
Jupiter assumes the throne at the start of Act II. He inspires Pandora with ambition, vanity, and superciliousness – so much so that she obtains his sceptre and tosses it to Juno when the queen of the gods comes in search of her husband (he hides himself in a cloud). Pandora inflicts her pride upon the hapless shepherds: she orders them to behead a wild boar, promising her glove to the man who brings the trophy to her. Mars takes over from Jupiter, turning Pandora into a "vixen martialist." The shepherds fight over the dead boar and the right to Pandora's glove – but she grabs a spear and bests them all.
Sol, the Sun, takes over at the start of Act III; for a change, his influence is largely beneficial. Pandora becomes "gentle and kind," and chooses Stesias, one of the shepherds, as her husband. But then comes Venus's turn: Joculus inspires dancing, Cupid shoots his arrows, and romantic disruptions follow. Mercury succeeds Venus in Act IV; he makes Pandora "false and full of sleights, / Thievish and lying, subtle, eloquent...." By Act V, under the influence of Luna, Pandora simply runs mad. Stesias is fed up by now, and the other shepherds want nothing to do with Pandora, even when the seven planetary deities have restored her sanity. With no place for her on Earth, the planets vie for the distinction of taking Pandora up to their individual spheres; Pandora chooses Luna, since they are both inherently changeable.
19 January 2018 18:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The earliest known origin of the sentiment "all is fair in love in war" is found in poet John Lyly's novel "Euphues: The Anatomy of Wit," published in 1579. The novel recounts the romantic adventures of a wealthy and attractive young man, and includes the quote "the rules of fair play do not apply in love and war." The first know appearance of the quote worded "all is fair in love and war" is in English author Francis Edward Smedley's 1850 novel "Frank Fairleigh" about the life of a schoolboy.
What Does it Mean?
All's fair in love and war means there is no act that is too terrible or too great when you are going after the person you love or making war on your enemies. Usually the quote is uttered when someone is trying to justify bad behavior.
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"Lyly must also be considered and remembered as a primary influence on the plays of William Shakespeare, and in particular the romantic comedies. Love's Metamorphosis is a large influence on Love's Labour's Lost, and Gallathea is a major source for A Midsummer Night's Dream.
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Lyly's other plays include Love's Metamorphosis (though printed in 1601, possibly Lyly's earliest play — the surviving version is likely a revision of the original), and The Woman in the Moon, first printed in 1597. Of these, all but the last are in prose. A Warning for Faire Women (1599) and The Maid's Metamorphosis (1600) have been attributed to Lyly, but on altogether insufficient grounds
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lyly
What Does it Mean?
All's fair in love and war means there is no act that is too terrible or too great when you are going after the person you love or making war on your enemies. Usually the quote is uttered when someone is trying to justify bad behavior.
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"Lyly must also be considered and remembered as a primary influence on the plays of William Shakespeare, and in particular the romantic comedies. Love's Metamorphosis is a large influence on Love's Labour's Lost, and Gallathea is a major source for A Midsummer Night's Dream.
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Lyly's other plays include Love's Metamorphosis (though printed in 1601, possibly Lyly's earliest play — the surviving version is likely a revision of the original), and The Woman in the Moon, first printed in 1597. Of these, all but the last are in prose. A Warning for Faire Women (1599) and The Maid's Metamorphosis (1600) have been attributed to Lyly, but on altogether insufficient grounds
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lyly
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lyly
19 January 2018 17:58
Margus Meigo replied to Sirje Salmiste's comment.
kuid ingvery ampsan , ehk tõesti sellest piisab, lõhnab ka paremini
19 January 2018 17:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
praeguses maailmas pole ju veel teada, kui niipaljud targad ja rahvalaulud miskit veidraid noote tolle kivakohta mainivad..
19 January 2018 17:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mis teema selle kuuga on, tulnukate teema, teadvus ülevõetud ja siis naispehmes keeles v..Mis see kuu üldse on..
19 January 2018 17:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Selleosa saab veel keegi täitsa selgitada
"Luba ma vaatan,kas su silmades on KUU,
või kuulud sa mulle"
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Node teine laul kuust:
Alguses ma tulen õige aralt
Nii kohmetu on käsi noorukil
Kui silmad mind, löön pilgu kiirelt maha
Ning jätkan oma tavapärast teed
Käin üle laia ilma, vaatan ringi
Möödub minust päevi üks-kaks-kolm Ma loodan, et
saan lõpuks sinust kinni Siin üksi olles poeb mu põue külm Kuu...
Mõistan, et sul on ehk teised plaanid
Me ei pruugigi ju kokku sobida
Võib-olla minust säravamat väärid
Siiski tean, et pean veel proovima
Taas helendades sammun üle võlvi
Aega möödub nädal või ehk kaks
Vist pakun sulle aina vähem huvi
Miks muidu jääb su pilke harvemaks
Kuu...
Hoolimata jälgedest mu näo peal
Siin tähis taevas olen säravaim
Kui püsivust kord leiad, siis mind näed seal
Sel teel ma omal kaaslast otsin vaid
Kas mõistad nüüd, et liigutada võin ma
Sinu jaoks nii mägesid kui merd
Kui peatume ning mulle annad käe sa
Meid kaugel ootab ilmaruumi serv
"Luba ma vaatan,kas su silmades on KUU,
või kuulud sa mulle"
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Node teine laul kuust:
Alguses ma tulen õige aralt
Nii kohmetu on käsi noorukil
Kui silmad mind, löön pilgu kiirelt maha
Ning jätkan oma tavapärast teed
Käin üle laia ilma, vaatan ringi
Möödub minust päevi üks-kaks-kolm Ma loodan, et
saan lõpuks sinust kinni Siin üksi olles poeb mu põue külm Kuu...
Mõistan, et sul on ehk teised plaanid
Me ei pruugigi ju kokku sobida
Võib-olla minust säravamat väärid
Siiski tean, et pean veel proovima
Taas helendades sammun üle võlvi
Aega möödub nädal või ehk kaks
Vist pakun sulle aina vähem huvi
Miks muidu jääb su pilke harvemaks
Kuu...
Hoolimata jälgedest mu näo peal
Siin tähis taevas olen säravaim
Kui püsivust kord leiad, siis mind näed seal
Sel teel ma omal kaaslast otsin vaid
Kas mõistad nüüd, et liigutada võin ma
Sinu jaoks nii mägesid kui merd
Kui peatume ning mulle annad käe sa
Meid kaugel ootab ilmaruumi serv
19 January 2018 17:06
Margus Meigo replied to Sirje Salmiste's comment.
Sirje Salmiste mett veel pole võimalik
19 January 2018 15:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kristel Pohlak chamoon! Ega ta siis päriselt teise voodit läbi metsa ei vedanud ju
Lumi on see külm maailm mille ta pehmeks ja armsaks endaümber loos, armastuse rahus olles (näiteks)
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(nu ookey, eks saab olla lumi ka, kuid räägi ikkagi (ja nu ...mis on Lumi?)
Lumi on see külm maailm mille ta pehmeks ja armsaks endaümber loos, armastuse rahus olles (näiteks)
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(nu ookey, eks saab olla lumi ka, kuid räägi ikkagi (ja nu ...mis on Lumi?)
19 January 2018 15:42
Margus Meigo replied to Sirje Salmiste's comment.
toda isegi veel on
19 January 2018 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on Siim Tulev's post.
Kindlustusel polnud hea päev
19 January 2018 15:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ehk siis lõpp küsimus on, et enamus küll arvavad, et teavad kui palju rahvatihedus on, kuid kui küsida mitu meetrit oleks selle maaala Üks võrdne külg ja ringina ringi diameeter , kui iga Eestlase maa mis elamiseks mõeldud, nüüd viisakalt jagada..
Ega siis päris enesekindlaid vastuseid palju pole olnud
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/(utoopiliselt osati ebavajaik arvutus reaalsuse jaoks, kuid hea taskus meeles hoida, arusaama, reaalselt ruumiliselt, ettekujutatavalt, mis suurused anti, meie milionilise rahva tarvis (mis tõesti ei peaks, eriti rohkemaks kasvama, mure alles siis kui alla poole millioni ..tuleb meelde tuletada, kui millistel aegadel,Eestlased suutisid oma rahvaarvu paarikümnelt tuhandelt uuesti kunagi taastada.. ... kui see filosoofiaselgeks saab, siis seda õigetmoodi riigisektoris uueks teadvuseks panna , rahvas ise enda olemises korjab üles normaalsuse, et murekoht ja oht on millal ja kus, kui tead 10 t inimest ja neil kõigil plaanis vähem kui üks-kaks last.. siis tuleb juba mõtlema hakata, et midagi on nihu..))
Ega siis päris enesekindlaid vastuseid palju pole olnud
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/(utoopiliselt osati ebavajaik arvutus reaalsuse jaoks, kuid hea taskus meeles hoida, arusaama, reaalselt ruumiliselt, ettekujutatavalt, mis suurused anti, meie milionilise rahva tarvis (mis tõesti ei peaks, eriti rohkemaks kasvama, mure alles siis kui alla poole millioni ..tuleb meelde tuletada, kui millistel aegadel,Eestlased suutisid oma rahvaarvu paarikümnelt tuhandelt uuesti kunagi taastada.. ... kui see filosoofiaselgeks saab, siis seda õigetmoodi riigisektoris uueks teadvuseks panna , rahvas ise enda olemises korjab üles normaalsuse, et murekoht ja oht on millal ja kus, kui tead 10 t inimest ja neil kõigil plaanis vähem kui üks-kaks last.. siis tuleb juba mõtlema hakata, et midagi on nihu..))
19 January 2018 15:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
paar küüslaauku ka veel kotis, ega see siia vonnile suurt midagi juurde lisa vist
põnevus suts, oodata, et mis tuleb
põnevus suts, oodata, et mis tuleb
19 January 2018 15:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ometigi külma pole saanud... ju sis midagi muud põnevat Türi sotsaalseimas raskekohas üleskorjanud, eks näis mida head tuleb,
külma dussi veel enne (kui viirus võimustsema hakkab) teha kiirelt.. to pidi soodsaimaid tervisenippe olema kui enam aitab
külma dussi veel enne (kui viirus võimustsema hakkab) teha kiirelt.. to pidi soodsaimaid tervisenippe olema kui enam aitab
19 January 2018 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
Alibaba osas jah, kohe kui nad avasid endeid (vist u 15a tagasi) ma juba vaatasin, et see saab olema üks suurimaid potensiaale. Ostsin siis ise oma poekesse jubinaid aasiast ja sattusin neile.
Ilusatesse suurustesse nad jõudnud. See väga zenn juht neil
Kahjuks ei saa kuulata sest toanaaber ajutises sundolukrras kuulab korvpalli :D
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Ilusatesse suurustesse nad jõudnud. See väga zenn juht neil
Kahjuks ei saa kuulata sest toanaaber ajutises sundolukrras kuulab korvpalli :D
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19 January 2018 15:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Minuarust see väga matiarhaatlik
Kuid yea, päris poolteist lehekülge usun, ikka muidu vääriks selle seletamine kokkuvõtvalt
Kuid yea, päris poolteist lehekülge usun, ikka muidu vääriks selle seletamine kokkuvõtvalt
19 January 2018 15:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kristel Pohlak mitte NII reaalselt, vaid MIDA see lumi, ja see olukord sümboliseeris
Kuigi kaudselt annab ka Su vastust ümber sümboliseerida omakorda, kuid see oleks liiga suurte vahedega,
Palun proovi nüüd ilma naljata : )
Kuigi kaudselt annab ka Su vastust ümber sümboliseerida omakorda, kuid see oleks liiga suurte vahedega,
Palun proovi nüüd ilma naljata : )
19 January 2018 15:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hingel kasvamisekspeab ju ruumi olema ja on alasi mis pole ju kunagi plaaniski, inimestele elamiseks mõeldud.
eks see tuleb sis järgi arvutada, kui mitu ruutmeetrit metsa, äri ja veemaad, riigimaad inimesekohta vel peale elupinna me maal on inimes kohta, + / -
siis teada, millal keegi on alla oma maa võimeid elav ja kes on üle ja mis põhjusel (hoiab teiste jaoks maad, suurkarjanik, mõisnik jne)
eks see tuleb sis järgi arvutada, kui mitu ruutmeetrit metsa, äri ja veemaad, riigimaad inimesekohta vel peale elupinna me maal on inimes kohta, + / -
siis teada, millal keegi on alla oma maa võimeid elav ja kes on üle ja mis põhjusel (hoiab teiste jaoks maad, suurkarjanik, mõisnik jne)
19 January 2018 14:49
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Kirsimägi's comment.
muidugi seda lehte pole olemas enam
19 January 2018 14:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kristel Pohlak Nu aga Video on ikkagi päris hästi tehtud olukorra selgituseks, onju?
Või kuidas Sa seda video, inimkeeli mõeldud sümboli lahtiseletatult seletasid kolmandale pimedale, asja sisu?
Või kuidas Sa seda video, inimkeeli mõeldud sümboli lahtiseletatult seletasid kolmandale pimedale, asja sisu?
19 January 2018 14:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehk siis umbes 100-200 meetrit ühtepidi ja teisipidi..kui ruudukesena enda ümber seda kasti, ruumi ettekujutada?
nu kindlasti pole õre..
nu kindlasti pole õre..
19 January 2018 14:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kas tuleb umbes 0.03 .. 0.04 ruutkilomeetrit inimese kohta?
19 January 2018 14:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu ja ma ple üldse kõrvarõnga usku, vaat kui hea siis olema pidi
19 January 2018 04:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
minul ei ole ei nii ega naa enamuses ammuenam mitte kuid siit ja sealt midagi ikka veel, ühiskonnaski olukorrad ju alles
19 January 2018 03:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
teoreetiliselt üks või teine peaks andma, kui nad omavahel avalikuse ees öeldu osas tõesed on
19 January 2018 03:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oi ku ima oma trump projekti ka kaima saan... kahjuks hillary eip ole tahtnud finantsi anda selle jaoks vele..mis teema see on
19 January 2018 03:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ahaa, ja nüüd saan aru ka mis Sa selleall mõtlesid, et polnud suuremasi asi selles osas mis Sa vaatasid,(nu võrreldes Dorisega..)
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Ma mõõtsin hoopis muud kvaliteeti ja haaret, enamasti anyway mõõdan seda mis parim millegis
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Ma mõõtsin hoopis muud kvaliteeti ja haaret, enamasti anyway mõõdan seda mis parim millegis
19 January 2018 03:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this can also be, in neurorock clas, i gues?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xux5Nst1F5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xux5Nst1F5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xux5Nst1F5Q
19 January 2018 03:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ossaraks, sellel Kareval on tõesti, imeline tase
.:.
Kuid mis siis saab,
kui ütlen: ma ei usu seda?
Jäi sadam selja taha.
Ikka jätkub jooks.
Sa ütled: aeg.
Ent ega aeg ei anna häbeneda.
Ta riivab seda tõtt,
mis saab me elulooks.
Müts põleb varga peas
ja teised saavad sooja.
Kõik võrdselt või?
Need eriti, kel pikemad on käed.
Rütm kiireneb.
Ei julge enam silma lasta looja.
Oh kuusepuu, oh kuusepuu.
Ja järsku jaanipäev.
.:.
Kuid mis siis saab,
kui ütlen: ma ei usu seda?
Jäi sadam selja taha.
Ikka jätkub jooks.
Sa ütled: aeg.
Ent ega aeg ei anna häbeneda.
Ta riivab seda tõtt,
mis saab me elulooks.
Müts põleb varga peas
ja teised saavad sooja.
Kõik võrdselt või?
Need eriti, kel pikemad on käed.
Rütm kiireneb.
Ei julge enam silma lasta looja.
Oh kuusepuu, oh kuusepuu.
Ja järsku jaanipäev.
19 January 2018 03:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
u know, neurorock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9LfkCef58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9LfkCef58
19 January 2018 03:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis tuleb aegajalt meeldetuletusi, et, me pole üksi
19 January 2018 03:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
oli
19 January 2018 03:27
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Isand
19 January 2018 03:02
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Mis selle video lõpus muidu öeldigi..?
19 January 2018 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
tead, et arm on kristlik ?
19 January 2018 02:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja kas Sa tõesti ei märganud mis laulust ma ekraanipildid tõin ? : )
19 January 2018 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vahetevahel on vahedevahel vahed vahel, ma ka nende vahede vahede uurimine huvitub
19 January 2018 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid ma ei tea kuidas naistega suhelda seega me varsti .. vasti loppebsee hea läabisamaine
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Nu ilma fantaasiata oleks päris keeruline videost arusaada, eksju.
ärgem jätkem nüüd mulje juurde sõnadele alaimaile klassile, et fantaasia // et fantaasiata oleks võimalik nendel kellel fantaasia selleks loodud, et arusaaks, sellest arusaada
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kuidas nüüd sellest arusaada...
ikka sedapidi, (/mõtlen, kujutlen, ..tunnetan kui midagi häirib või meelde tuletab..aa siis juba hakkab meelest hajuma mis tegema pidid,,,/)
// nu ka see kahe video osaga seoutud ikka, kohe ehk jõuan sinnani
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Et ühiskonna igast asjad miks nii juhtub ja selle jätsid nad õhku,
kõik toimus armastuse ruumis
ja otseses näitamises, ka kuidas...ega te arvanud, et lumi ainult soe oli?
// proovin siit ringiga tagasi keerata ennast jutujärje jätkule
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MUl miskid kiibid on suts peas sassis, kuid muidu see vist ajutine nähe või siis võimalus
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(see esimene sõnum mis oli, kohe Su viimase sõnumi vastas, oli päris, viimane, siis ülejäänu kuskilt mujalt juba /vast, uurin veel/)
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(mina oma meeltega mängeldamist eip karda, siis iseenda erikülgede uuesti tagasi ,selgeks õppimist hiljem, usutavasti toob kasu)
Muide see lume laul ajas teise asja pärast nutma kuid see selline mis ainult korra paar seda teeb oma ilu ja taseme poolest,
kuid see tormi laul sedasi ,et see teistsuguste emotsioonidega, ja too saab aegajalt uuesti ka ..
Hmm, oot ma vaatan mõelamd korra veel läbi,
erimoodi ple aega praegu vaadata, kuid korraks veel lihtsalt, kuigi kahjuks klapid sellised hiirepiud...
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Muidugi see mu arust ka, sõnade osas veel,
ütles laulu kaks salmi,
selle asja mõtte, minimalistlikult
Kõik muu väikeste lumehelvestena oli pantud, ka omamoodi lugu, et mis moodi läbi ööveetud arm hommikult teadmata teise pingutusi,
// kuid korraks elu viskab paratamatult midagi tekib midagi omasomapärast veidrat ja kõige turvalisemas rahulikumas hetkes.. hetkeks ainult.. ja saab olla kadunud!
// jms sõnumid, et suundume nüüd selle, laulu juurde korra veel, mõlema, tormi esitluse ja lumevideo osas, kas oled kuuldel veel ?
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Nu ilma fantaasiata oleks päris keeruline videost arusaada, eksju.
ärgem jätkem nüüd mulje juurde sõnadele alaimaile klassile, et fantaasia // et fantaasiata oleks võimalik nendel kellel fantaasia selleks loodud, et arusaaks, sellest arusaada
--
kuidas nüüd sellest arusaada...
ikka sedapidi, (/mõtlen, kujutlen, ..tunnetan kui midagi häirib või meelde tuletab..aa siis juba hakkab meelest hajuma mis tegema pidid,,,/)
// nu ka see kahe video osaga seoutud ikka, kohe ehk jõuan sinnani
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Et ühiskonna igast asjad miks nii juhtub ja selle jätsid nad õhku,
kõik toimus armastuse ruumis
ja otseses näitamises, ka kuidas...ega te arvanud, et lumi ainult soe oli?
// proovin siit ringiga tagasi keerata ennast jutujärje jätkule
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MUl miskid kiibid on suts peas sassis, kuid muidu see vist ajutine nähe või siis võimalus
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(see esimene sõnum mis oli, kohe Su viimase sõnumi vastas, oli päris, viimane, siis ülejäänu kuskilt mujalt juba /vast, uurin veel/)
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(mina oma meeltega mängeldamist eip karda, siis iseenda erikülgede uuesti tagasi ,selgeks õppimist hiljem, usutavasti toob kasu)
Muide see lume laul ajas teise asja pärast nutma kuid see selline mis ainult korra paar seda teeb oma ilu ja taseme poolest,
kuid see tormi laul sedasi ,et see teistsuguste emotsioonidega, ja too saab aegajalt uuesti ka ..
Hmm, oot ma vaatan mõelamd korra veel läbi,
erimoodi ple aega praegu vaadata, kuid korraks veel lihtsalt, kuigi kahjuks klapid sellised hiirepiud...
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Muidugi see mu arust ka, sõnade osas veel,
ütles laulu kaks salmi,
selle asja mõtte, minimalistlikult
Kõik muu väikeste lumehelvestena oli pantud, ka omamoodi lugu, et mis moodi läbi ööveetud arm hommikult teadmata teise pingutusi,
// kuid korraks elu viskab paratamatult midagi tekib midagi omasomapärast veidrat ja kõige turvalisemas rahulikumas hetkes.. hetkeks ainult.. ja saab olla kadunud!
// jms sõnumid, et suundume nüüd selle, laulu juurde korra veel, mõlema, tormi esitluse ja lumevideo osas, kas oled kuuldel veel ?
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19 January 2018 02:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kristel Pohlak oh nu milleks siis veel kui selleks, et oma fantaasiat tajuda, äitah, Kui hea, et see ongi päris!
19 January 2018 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kristel Pohlak aa oot kuulsin sõnu ka video juurde, nu jah, loomulikult teadsin neid sõnu, need on ju ka samamoodi kõike ütlevad, kaks lugu on koos ja eraldi, kaheksana põimuvad kuid poimumiskohta raske tabada, sest nii paraleel maailmas olevat eraldi lugu on, sonades ja videos, topelt geeniused
19 January 2018 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
( :D päriselt ka, selle aspekti täitsa pold meeleski, ma ka enamasti ikka vaatan, mis sees on)
19 January 2018 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ma pole veel sõnu kuulanutki Esimesel sest neid vist ei olnud, oot ma vaatan
19 January 2018 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ei nu Lumise video puhul on videos sõnum ja teise laulu puhul on sõnades sõnum, ega mitte omati laulja valusates krimassides, olgugi, et hääl imeliselt sobis meestel hinges liigutada
19 January 2018 02:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või arvad, et olnud ainult see on mis vajalik peab olema kogejale? (isekalt, ainult üksi?)
19 January 2018 02:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just praegu onlnud (või kellega iganes, kellele see pole enam hingeüleskasvamiseks vajali kogemus, vaid sinna otsa, )
19 January 2018 02:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kristel Pohlak Aga Sa nõustud, et sõnumi enda mõttes kui seda olukorda reaalsena võtta siis see oleks õige tunda suurt kurbust kui enda või kalli lähedasega nii on just praegu ?
19 January 2018 02:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(usu või mitte aga)kuid peaasi, et Usud
19 January 2018 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
isegi mina enda pilte olen valmis mitte uskuma, kui vaja on arusaada uueusualustest
19 January 2018 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpoyOPLoePA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpoyOPLoePA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpoyOPLoePA
19 January 2018 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" nooo this trump uses some kind of New coding,
can not get past of that in whole, what is the plan besides wait
can not get past of that in whole, what is the plan besides wait
19 January 2018 02:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see mida ta 40% suurendab, see kui millena kui paljudele siis reaalselt mõjub ?
19 January 2018 02:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
African empoiment on wards again important to hear, what they pick and would be nice to know, what did HIS team do for that
https://youtu.be/mk2k1DKm-xI?t=157
and what else was they doing
https://youtu.be/mk2k1DKm-xI?t=157
and what else was they doing
https://youtu.be/mk2k1DKm-xI?t=157
19 January 2018 02:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tuleb arusaada, et poliitikutel ka tasemetel meelega SONUM_____tühijutt_UUSSONUM_miskit_muud_olulist_jaTööd_veelPaarSõnumit
umbes sellise skriptiga,
Kuid ei pea olema sedasi, et iga lause järgi tuleb see mis samale grupile mõeldud on kellele eelmised laused:
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But my head starts hurt when it hears empty worlds,
so can not lissten to much after starts to talkabout Tojota onwords soon just..
(ha in time 0:42 to much, still red tie?? )
umbes sellise skriptiga,
Kuid ei pea olema sedasi, et iga lause järgi tuleb see mis samale grupile mõeldud on kellele eelmised laused:
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But my head starts hurt when it hears empty worlds,
so can not lissten to much after starts to talkabout Tojota onwords soon just..
(ha in time 0:42 to much, still red tie?? )
19 January 2018 02:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
In here, in beginning, i was thinking, they threatening
estonia, the swamp who from they get warm whooping no less pleasent at first then Atllantians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk2k1DKm-xI
estonia, the swamp who from they get warm whooping no less pleasent at first then Atllantians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk2k1DKm-xI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk2k1DKm-xI
19 January 2018 02:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
19 January 2018 01:58
Margus Meigo replied to Jako Krull's comment.
u elite bro u
19 January 2018 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on Meister Jaan's post.
19 January 2018 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
19 January 2018 00:58
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
Thats pretty big one..
19 January 2018 00:54
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Kaasik's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kui kellegil CD kodus olemas, siis saan õpetada kuidas sellest koopia teha või kuidas sellest laulud saada kätte ja üle interneti teistele saata18 January 2018 22:51
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Lastemisjon's link.
Kas keegi teab kust kohast selle CD sisu või CDd ennast leida saaks ?
18 January 2018 22:51
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Kaasik's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kas see CD mida siin saates tutvustati: http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/mp3/linnulennul/2014/New1.php?failinimi=141117_Raadioprojektist_%27%27Vanaisa_piiblilood%27%27_TimoLige_YN.mp3
Seda tasuks küsida Pereraadio inimestelt (ka (Timo Lige, Ülo Niinemägi Timo Lige muusika)
Nemad kes haldavad seda kodulehte, võivad ka teada mida Sa soovid ja kustkohast seda leida: https://web.archive.org/web/20160130142829/http://lasteleht.ee/vanaisa-piiblilood
Siit tulid veel järgmised nimed esile, ja kogudused : Tiina Murga Põltsamaa Kogudus
http://www.jordan.ee/index.php/uudised/koguduse-uudised/207-toimus-laste-cd-plaadi-qvanaisa-piibliloodq-tutvustus18 January 2018 22:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kristel Pohlak Kogu laul oli, see teistkordne esitlus, esimeses esitluses oli asi veelgi parem minuarust
18 January 2018 22:42
Margus Meigo commented on Aurelius Sarapuu's post.
Egasee muidugi täielik normaalsus pole, et täiskasvanud mehed teise loomaliigi vääralt väljaimetud ja sunniviisiliselt tootma pandud lapsepiiima ise kuukame,
Muidugi juust alles eile maitses hästi kuid nu mis sa vaesuses teed..
https://www.peta.org/features/dairy-industry-cruelty/
Muidugi juust alles eile maitses hästi kuid nu mis sa vaesuses teed..
https://www.peta.org/features/dairy-industry-cruelty/
https://www.peta.org/features/dairy-industry-cruelty/
18 January 2018 22:16
Margus Meigo commented on Aurelius Sarapuu's post.
Nu see peaks ikka suht jah, alustala olema, ime, et need lipsumehed ka sinnamaani oma Objetiiv projkeitga jõuavad,
kuigi, riided räägivad muud lugu..
kuigi, riided räägivad muud lugu..
18 January 2018 22:05
Margus Meigo commented on Aurelius Sarapuu's post.
Näe, neeger saab aru selgelt ja meie lipslased siin teevad nagu kremli kutsikate märjasoovunelmas vajalik.. selleks, et kogu hääleõigus me maalt viia
18 January 2018 22:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ning parem, kesiganes Sul ees seisab, arvestagu seda, olgu Sinuga koos, kokkuleppes ja arukas arutluses või arutElus kuid kui vastandavad end siis antku neile Looja aru arusaamiseks sest ma ise ju pidevalt lõukoeraeest pool sammu tagasihoidvana niigi, rohkem ruumi andnud teise meelesegaduse paranduseks kui arukusevastase käitumisele selginemisruumi anda, et tekiks võimlaus arenguks kuid samas mitte liiga tagasi, et poleks nii, et arutu meeletus eneseõigustuses mugavalt muhelema eneseheaolus jääks
18 January 2018 21:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ehk siis, millise iganes maagia ja tulnuka otsa satud, vaatad seda Jumala silmeläbi, et see mis näed ja tunned ja koged olgu mis on aga Sina oled Jumala sõber, teener, käepikendus ja plaanipärane loomise misioon.
18 January 2018 21:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eks temalgi oma süü, usust lahkujana.. et psyhiaatria Hingeteadusest hingetuks matemaatika-reaktsiooni teaduseks muutus
18 January 2018 19:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Over a 45-year period, under his direction, the Institute became one of the most important centers of physiological research in the world.
The basics of Pavlov's classical conditioning serve as a historical backdrop for current learning theories. However, the Russian physiologist's initial interest in classical conditioning occurred almost by accident during one of his experiments on digestion in dogs
] Pavlov continued to direct the Department of Physiology at the Institute, while taking up the chair of physiology at the Medical Military Academy in 1895. Pavlov would head the physiology department at the Academy continuously for three decades.
Starting in 1901, Pavlov was nominated over four successive years for the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine. He did not win because the prize until 1904 because his previous nominations were not specific to any discovery, but based on a variety of laboratory findings. When Pavlov received the Nobel Prize it was specified that he did so "in recognition of his work on the physiology of digestion, through which knowledge on vital aspects of the subject has been transformed and enlarged"
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After completing his doctorate, Pavlov went to Germany where he studied in Leipzig with Carl Ludwig and Eimear Kelly in the Heidenhain laboratories in Breslau.
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come to western as completed in these days: http://www.edpsycinteractive.org/topics/summary/basic-principles-learning.html
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http://www.unm.edu/~quadl/Principles/PrZA-Selective_Attention
http://www.unm.edu/~quadl/Principles/
The basics of Pavlov's classical conditioning serve as a historical backdrop for current learning theories. However, the Russian physiologist's initial interest in classical conditioning occurred almost by accident during one of his experiments on digestion in dogs
] Pavlov continued to direct the Department of Physiology at the Institute, while taking up the chair of physiology at the Medical Military Academy in 1895. Pavlov would head the physiology department at the Academy continuously for three decades.
Starting in 1901, Pavlov was nominated over four successive years for the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine. He did not win because the prize until 1904 because his previous nominations were not specific to any discovery, but based on a variety of laboratory findings. When Pavlov received the Nobel Prize it was specified that he did so "in recognition of his work on the physiology of digestion, through which knowledge on vital aspects of the subject has been transformed and enlarged"
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After completing his doctorate, Pavlov went to Germany where he studied in Leipzig with Carl Ludwig and Eimear Kelly in the Heidenhain laboratories in Breslau.
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come to western as completed in these days: http://www.edpsycinteractive.org/topics/summary/basic-principles-learning.html
..
http://www.unm.edu/~quadl/Principles/PrZA-Selective_Attention
http://www.unm.edu/~quadl/Principles/
http://www.edpsycinteractive.org/topics/summary/basic-principles-learning.html
18 January 2018 19:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ivan Petrovich Pavlov
From his childhood days Pavlov demonstrated intellectual curiosity along with an unusual energy which he referred to as "the instinct for research". ] Inspired by the progressive ideas which D. I. Pisarev, the most eminent of the Russian literary critics of the 1860s, and I. M. Sechenov, the father of Russian physiology, were spreading, Pavlov abandoned his religious career and devoted his life to science. In 1870 he enrolled in the physics and mathematics department at the University of Saint Petersburg in order to study natural science.
Pavlov won the Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine in 1904, becoming the first Russian Nobel laureate. A survey in the Review of General Psychology, published in 2002, ranked Pavlov as the 24th most cited psychologist of the 20th century. Pavlov's principles of classical conditioning have been found to operate across a variety of experimental and clinical settings, including educational classrooms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Pavlov
From his childhood days Pavlov demonstrated intellectual curiosity along with an unusual energy which he referred to as "the instinct for research". ] Inspired by the progressive ideas which D. I. Pisarev, the most eminent of the Russian literary critics of the 1860s, and I. M. Sechenov, the father of Russian physiology, were spreading, Pavlov abandoned his religious career and devoted his life to science. In 1870 he enrolled in the physics and mathematics department at the University of Saint Petersburg in order to study natural science.
Pavlov won the Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine in 1904, becoming the first Russian Nobel laureate. A survey in the Review of General Psychology, published in 2002, ranked Pavlov as the 24th most cited psychologist of the 20th century. Pavlov's principles of classical conditioning have been found to operate across a variety of experimental and clinical settings, including educational classrooms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Pavlov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Pavlov
18 January 2018 19:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Bekhterev founded the Psychoneurological Institute at the St. Petersburg State Medical Academy; however, he was forced to resign in 1913 as a professor at the Military Medical Academy in St. Petersburg. He was reinstated in 1918 following the Russian Revolution of 1917 and became the chairperson for the Department of Psychology and Reflexology at the University of Petrograd in St. Petersburg as well as established the Institute of Studying Brain Mental Activities.[3]
In 1921 he was involved in organising the First Conference on Scientific Organization of Labour. He was critical of Taylorism arguing that "The ultimate ideal of the labour problem is not in it, but is in such organisation of the labour process that would yield a maximum of efficiency coupled with a minimum of health hazards, absence of fatigue and a guarantee of the sound health and all round personal development of the working people."[8]
During his time away from teaching, Bekhterev worked to open an orphanage, complete with both a kindergarten and school, for refugee children from the western regions of Russia. He also participated in creating health services in the "young country" of Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia
In 1921 he was involved in organising the First Conference on Scientific Organization of Labour. He was critical of Taylorism arguing that "The ultimate ideal of the labour problem is not in it, but is in such organisation of the labour process that would yield a maximum of efficiency coupled with a minimum of health hazards, absence of fatigue and a guarantee of the sound health and all round personal development of the working people."[8]
During his time away from teaching, Bekhterev worked to open an orphanage, complete with both a kindergarten and school, for refugee children from the western regions of Russia. He also participated in creating health services in the "young country" of Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia
18 January 2018 19:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Rivalry with Ivan Pavlov (First Russian Nobel prize)
Both Ivan Pavlov and Bekhterev independently developed a theory of conditioned reflexes which describe automatic responses to the environment. What was called association reflex by Bekhterev is called the conditioned reflex by Pavlov, although the two theories are essentially the same. Because John Watson discovered the salivation research completed by Pavlov, this research was incorporated into Watson’s famous theory of Behaviorism, making Pavlov a household name. While Watson used Pavlov’s research to support his Behaviorist claims, closer inspection shows that in fact, Watson’s teachings are better supported by Bekhterev’s research.
Bekhterev was familiar with Pavlov’s work and had multiple criticisms. According to Bekhterev, one of Pavlov’s major research flaws included using a saliva method. He found fault with this method because it could not be easily used on humans. In contrast, Bekhterev's method of studying this association (conditioned) reflex using mild electrical stimulation to examine motor reflexes was able to demonstrate the existence of this reflex in humans. Bekhterev also questioned using acid to encourage saliva from the animals. He felt that this practice may contaminate the results of the experiment. Finally, Bekhterev criticized Pavlov’s method by stating that the secretory reflex is unimportant and unreliable. If the animal is not hungry then food may not elicit the desired response, acting as evidence of the method’s unreliability. Pavlov however was not without his own criticisms of Bekhterev, stating that Bekhterev’s laboratory was poorly controlled."
Both Ivan Pavlov and Bekhterev independently developed a theory of conditioned reflexes which describe automatic responses to the environment. What was called association reflex by Bekhterev is called the conditioned reflex by Pavlov, although the two theories are essentially the same. Because John Watson discovered the salivation research completed by Pavlov, this research was incorporated into Watson’s famous theory of Behaviorism, making Pavlov a household name. While Watson used Pavlov’s research to support his Behaviorist claims, closer inspection shows that in fact, Watson’s teachings are better supported by Bekhterev’s research.
Bekhterev was familiar with Pavlov’s work and had multiple criticisms. According to Bekhterev, one of Pavlov’s major research flaws included using a saliva method. He found fault with this method because it could not be easily used on humans. In contrast, Bekhterev's method of studying this association (conditioned) reflex using mild electrical stimulation to examine motor reflexes was able to demonstrate the existence of this reflex in humans. Bekhterev also questioned using acid to encourage saliva from the animals. He felt that this practice may contaminate the results of the experiment. Finally, Bekhterev criticized Pavlov’s method by stating that the secretory reflex is unimportant and unreliable. If the animal is not hungry then food may not elicit the desired response, acting as evidence of the method’s unreliability. Pavlov however was not without his own criticisms of Bekhterev, stating that Bekhterev’s laboratory was poorly controlled."
18 January 2018 19:30
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Küll Sa juba tea.. eks mu enda sünnimaa ka on Kullimaa..
18 January 2018 16:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Viktooria jäi kuivale, ei saanud korvi"
18 January 2018 10:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See oleks alles pulm, terve Hiiega abielus
18 January 2018 08:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/556403247869024/permalink/872700672905945/
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=eesti%20kirikud%20pildis
https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=eesti%20kirikud%20pildis
18 January 2018 08:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ta vast juba ühiskonda ehmatatud hirmuga
18 January 2018 07:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
habemik kadunud varandusega
18 January 2018 07:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
tegelik tag pidi juurde tulema, algselt minema siia:
18 January 2018 07:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and dates when changed and who related to event and who behind deals
18 January 2018 07:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
most naive request ever
18 January 2018 07:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(okey nad mõõtsid rõhku, whatever, ja muud füüsilise taluvuse piire,
kuid
kuid
18 January 2018 07:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mõlemad (jah sest naist saab alt üles ja ülesse tõmbavalt vaadata)
nurgad nurkadeks, kuid pika jutu mõtte lõpp on, et, kui Sa oleksid soovinud, siis oleksid must jägu saanud küll kergesti mõnes mõttes, lihtsalt
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kuid ainult siis kui nii nagu ma eeldan, eeldasin, et on ilus ja õige
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nagu näiteks, mu esimese armastuse müsteeriumi oleks pidanud läbi elama ja selgeks saama jms
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või noh, armastuse st, ega neid mitmeid polegi, kuigi tekkkinud ja olnud olulisi on olnud kõi khetkeliselt, kuid ta ainuke kes alati uuesti meelde tuleb esimesena, see ju peaks suht kindel märk olema
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nu vähemasti tulev tal kui tarvis saan maal katust Sullegi pakkuda kui see võimalik ja vajalik peaks olema
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kuid ma loodan, et mitte, st, loodan, et saad hakkama : )
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mul üksi elutee saab otsa aegajalt siis julgelt vaja juhatust kus vaja eelkõige meeli muuta, selgitamaks miks mis hea on/uskudes arvestades kõike healootuslike ideid/, see ise sulandab seda mida ei saa nimetada kuna teda ei jää, kuid seda arusaama hä
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Oot aga kui Sa ikka kindlalt oled see kes pildil...mis me siis siin filosofeerime üldse, pleks sellisel sobinutki ju, olgugi, et naise maine olemus on Su abigaasalegi, kas liiast, niisuguse ilu juures koos maheduse ja kirglikusega?
nurgad nurkadeks, kuid pika jutu mõtte lõpp on, et, kui Sa oleksid soovinud, siis oleksid must jägu saanud küll kergesti mõnes mõttes, lihtsalt
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kuid ainult siis kui nii nagu ma eeldan, eeldasin, et on ilus ja õige
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nagu näiteks, mu esimese armastuse müsteeriumi oleks pidanud läbi elama ja selgeks saama jms
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või noh, armastuse st, ega neid mitmeid polegi, kuigi tekkkinud ja olnud olulisi on olnud kõi khetkeliselt, kuid ta ainuke kes alati uuesti meelde tuleb esimesena, see ju peaks suht kindel märk olema
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nu vähemasti tulev tal kui tarvis saan maal katust Sullegi pakkuda kui see võimalik ja vajalik peaks olema
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kuid ma loodan, et mitte, st, loodan, et saad hakkama : )
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mul üksi elutee saab otsa aegajalt siis julgelt vaja juhatust kus vaja eelkõige meeli muuta, selgitamaks miks mis hea on/uskudes arvestades kõike healootuslike ideid/, see ise sulandab seda mida ei saa nimetada kuna teda ei jää, kuid seda arusaama hä
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Oot aga kui Sa ikka kindlalt oled see kes pildil...mis me siis siin filosofeerime üldse, pleks sellisel sobinutki ju, olgugi, et naise maine olemus on Su abigaasalegi, kas liiast, niisuguse ilu juures koos maheduse ja kirglikusega?
18 January 2018 07:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei julge mäeltada :D
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ei ikkagi, sest Sul olid viisnurgad veel... juba...
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paratamatud muud meeldivused, su meeldivuse tõttu
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ja kui kerge Sinuga suhelda oleks, kui SELLISEKS jääksid, kuid egaa tea,,..kuidas suhtes..
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Mina muidugi jälle ei aima, kas sulle oleks sobinud mu elumõtte teod, ja seda oleks ebasynnis "suruda" kaasa tegema, kuigi ka väga põnev kuid hoopis muud soovid Sul eeldasin... siis ka reguleeerisin ma seda // seda, ennast ümber ja austuses
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ei ikkagi, sest Sul olid viisnurgad veel... juba...
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paratamatud muud meeldivused, su meeldivuse tõttu
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ja kui kerge Sinuga suhelda oleks, kui SELLISEKS jääksid, kuid egaa tea,,..kuidas suhtes..
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Mina muidugi jälle ei aima, kas sulle oleks sobinud mu elumõtte teod, ja seda oleks ebasynnis "suruda" kaasa tegema, kuigi ka väga põnev kuid hoopis muud soovid Sul eeldasin... siis ka reguleeerisin ma seda // seda, ennast ümber ja austuses
18 January 2018 07:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei tea
18 January 2018 07:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nüüd näitas mis moodi mingi üks kitlis mees karjus trenasööril jooksva mehe peale kellel mask peas ja juhtmed küljes plja ülakehaga jooksis kuni vaatamata oma treenitusele käpidemetele kukkus
18 January 2018 07:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
:D
18 January 2018 07:12
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's post.
Okey nu siis mul vedas, et Suga liini ajama eip hakanud
18 January 2018 07:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja ära muretse tõesti teravalt kui "vägahästi aru ei saa" siis see juba et lugesitki mingi mõttega, st eeldasid lugemise vajalikust juba on tark meistriklass iseenesest //
eeldatavasti, minusilmis suht oluline teil kõigile oleks proovi, soovi paar kolm kirjeldusti juurde anda milliste iganes küsimustele, millele iagenes mitte vastatud, iga vastamata küsimuse peale kui mitu uut küsimust endale nõuad kui üldse nõus?
// küsimisvõrgustiku mäng
eeldatavasti, minusilmis suht oluline teil kõigile oleks proovi, soovi paar kolm kirjeldusti juurde anda milliste iganes küsimustele, millele iagenes mitte vastatud, iga vastamata küsimuse peale kui mitu uut küsimust endale nõuad kui üldse nõus?
// küsimisvõrgustiku mäng
18 January 2018 06:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ehk siis nende kihtide vahel, mis sotsiaalruumis teha plaanivad ehk paljud koos minuga, ...
//Jätk: oeh.. eks sellest hiljem,
Kuid inimesed ise siis saavad ka kihtidesse reaalseid kustutumatuid kihte teha, Eelkõige kustutamatu poole pürgida kui kindlustada tehnoloogiat kuidas kaotada, et kui valida pool kumma suunalise absul tipu peaks aitama, samamoodi ka autorikaitsetuse tegeliku suuna kus inimesed keda autor armastab saavad suunata tema loomingut kuidas iganes nad soovivad ja kui täiis solvuvad on neil leementaarselt viisakas ühiskonnas õigus mis iganes täisõigus ülevõtta, kui tõestatud ilma kahtluseta kumb on autori pool ja kumb autorite elushoidmise ja kättesaadavusele investeeriks pigem, koguks, jagaks tasutagi, vahendaks teenust kui keegi maksustaks kaabliveo _
//Jätk: oeh.. eks sellest hiljem,
Kuid inimesed ise siis saavad ka kihtidesse reaalseid kustutumatuid kihte teha, Eelkõige kustutamatu poole pürgida kui kindlustada tehnoloogiat kuidas kaotada, et kui valida pool kumma suunalise absul tipu peaks aitama, samamoodi ka autorikaitsetuse tegeliku suuna kus inimesed keda autor armastab saavad suunata tema loomingut kuidas iganes nad soovivad ja kui täiis solvuvad on neil leementaarselt viisakas ühiskonnas õigus mis iganes täisõigus ülevõtta, kui tõestatud ilma kahtluseta kumb on autori pool ja kumb autorite elushoidmise ja kättesaadavusele investeeriks pigem, koguks, jagaks tasutagi, vahendaks teenust kui keegi maksustaks kaabliveo _
18 January 2018 06:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
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Kuid, eks saame aru ,et see telesohtlus vaim ja tulnar suhtlus saab ka olla ikkagi , see peaks oelma saatekavas, selgitus, et sellesuunalisi teadmisi peaks ikkagi ka uurima, kavast, kui juba nii
nii hoolikalt vaatate saatekava ja saateid kuid saateid sellest patent " "237-222_LM-A33" " ehk kirjeldusega: "mida telekaga on võimalik ja mida planeeritud ja teoritiseeritud "
Te pole isegi vaadanud
Kuid, eks saame aru ,et see telesohtlus vaim ja tulnar suhtlus saab ka olla ikkagi , see peaks oelma saatekavas, selgitus, et sellesuunalisi teadmisi peaks ikkagi ka uurima, kavast, kui juba nii
nii hoolikalt vaatate saatekava ja saateid kuid saateid sellest patent " "237-222_LM-A33" " ehk kirjeldusega: "mida telekaga on võimalik ja mida planeeritud ja teoritiseeritud "
Te pole isegi vaadanud
18 January 2018 06:46
Margus Meigo commented on Roni Aledo's photo.
poor Soros, controlled by the Masses
unenlightened desires
unenlightened desires
18 January 2018 05:54
Margus Meigo commented on Roni Aledo's post.
Sometimes i feel people fail to take it seriously, to much to fit in head sometimes, to imagine, full spectrum of this power to accomplish all that globally : )
18 January 2018 05:32
Margus Meigo commented on Roni Aledo's post.
They got balls ower there
18 January 2018 05:16
Margus Meigo commented on Paul Kopeikin's post.
When women stop wear high heels and markings from Roman empire culture (lipstick etc)... then we can start to take more seriously that one is self aware who is abusing Her kind really and how, why.
Poor man usually not even know what they getting in to
Poor man usually not even know what they getting in to
18 January 2018 05:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sellised timmid nõud: https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213996527644008
18 January 2018 03:59
Margus Meigo replied to Emmanuel Olabiwonninu's comment.
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sorry if my story went a bit larger then i thought it should be,
but i can but it shorter and clearer in some day
(hope'r)18 January 2018 01:30
Margus Meigo replied to Emmanuel Olabiwonninu's comment.
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And when we take master ideology then all what was mentioned before can fit inside it
as current world, the one of opponents potential ones, can truly in a way turn even them self to believing what they try others turn to, ... and also, have to be looked if connected Tops "followers" are directed to the same understanding as the Tops or are they kept to strongly away from equal knowledge.
also measurement for cults.18 January 2018 01:29
Margus Meigo replied to Emmanuel Olabiwonninu's comment.
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The point was, that just one random large important organization, have to be get interlinked by so many ways that is not linear in 180 degrees way but is more like rounded.
when we add dimensions with what is inside dimension and what it would mean what must be possible in between these 2 to be.
and when we took 2, then we should be in a way 3, to link these 2, and at large part, this 3'd (worldTheory) can be mostly product of one or another also ()18 January 2018 01:25
Margus Meigo replied to Emmanuel Olabiwonninu's comment.
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not in a sci-enTology way... but i guess is not nice to insult religions in a silence forum-group, even if they do clearly might be involved by pentagram magic or some other country army sleeper cell related at least, and compatible with Communism Futuristic when taking in to account, that members are from to to bottom re-trained and kept in 2 side, ones who know and others who know strongly another way as book say.
And the first one will keep control about if second one keeps hold strong in book - helps to keep scisofrenya (as 2 head eagle also implementes ) /excuse missspellings/
and Agents-administrators if needed can turn any clear Book believer in to co-operated act with task of agents to make any kind of infiltration and near any needed task, by most. Meaning: all tasks what is needed can be completed easy with no lack of agents, that it self is over 2-350 000 in resting time, in ex-soviet capital it self, on peace time, by 2012 last public information we saw.
Their Book is in their view more powerful as it is allowing greater freedom to accomplish what is needed inside current worlds and cultures. with combination of past powers, as league, or by other view looking (popular ordinary youth new age view) - as separate self of one self,
eg. belief that is promoted by last mentioned powers: that there is only you and you have been all.
Something like that... helps to make people accomplish a lot and keeps in prison same time, great theory.18 January 2018 01:21
Margus Meigo replied to Emmanuel Olabiwonninu's comment.
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We should take "other people sciences " understanding also from their point of view
(inside our worldview - (time by time complementing idea about what if You are " in Their world "instead them in Yours ... /Unless You Knower Clearly if that is Your world with Your supreme Right to Demand Rightfulness or at least Your Crew invaded-robbed Aria/
or maybe in some half way... Yours and theirs bought surrendering to good and being in the Aria operated-owned by Good or in location-territory occupied by soviETs (4 example!!! can also be greek-roman "homos")))
Original ET's for sure something else, if You also want to take in to account BatlestarCalactica A.i. returning-army-of-lost-"children" theory + science proper + missingLink what is needed for them 2 to exist, at least,
and then what ever these 3 implement would also be or might be
am i near clear?18 January 2018 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to Emmanuel Olabiwonninu's comment.
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also is useful, to connect with many other arias of life makers, so that the main truth would be kept proper way, when we focus only in truth in one aria, eg. in science (in some special part only..top of that), then rest of arias to often clearly will get to little attention and understanding to regulate each other theory's in proper direction faster18 January 2018 00:58
Margus Meigo replied to Emmanuel Olabiwonninu's comment.
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uh, it come out a bit arrogant,
i thought, when something is so big and smart, then would make sense to be able in time to build world pieces all in a way that when them all fit together one time, time by time, then "their truth" will fit inside proper truth with ease, as there is so many departments with various versions of creation
(last part should be explained more thoroughly but probably will not now )18 January 2018 00:53
Margus Meigo replied to Emmanuel Olabiwonninu's comment.
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first i read, You thought "it's just crazy"
but wrote instead, more explained apologetic nice answer, to think about, what it really is, at least,
if the con-Cept it self does not feel half way it self enough.
But yea, as so many believe it so already, would make sense, as truth is so big, to accept "their view" (as arguing with kids) and in time just build explanation18 January 2018 00:51
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Noss's comment.
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yeah, can be changed form useful from life to death18 January 2018 00:28
Margus Meigo replied to Norman Beall's comment.
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ave You learn and used psychedelics or had contact with people who can "remote-travel", or the ones who see daily dead people, spirits and alien beings ?
All that will expand this simplistic but confusing science things a lot.. whiteout being in contact with these thing,s is near impossible to become to understandings about what is possible and how
I my self have traveled in time, saw my self in 3'd person, changed a bit and change happened in present time, measurable, instant,
makes kind of think what is this linear time...or is few world or dimensions away beings, do they have same understanding of time, the ones who are not so much limited by time, nor our physical world.
this kind of things are i guess ordinary: http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/08/09/scientists-observe-man-travel-out-of-his-body-and-into-space-what-he-saw-was-remarkable/
there is just separate types of beings and humans, and beings looking as humans, for limited humans,
and some organizations take great care for promoting one of the most limited and lifeless views
if i survive... i will try to do also, something out of nothing, for realhttp://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/08/09/scientists-observe-man-travel-out-of-his-body-and-into-space-what-he-saw-was-remarkable/
18 January 2018 00:24
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Noss's comment.
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i think the atomic bomb and accelerators destroy matter well, innit ?
Killed life is also destroyed matter18 January 2018 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to Norman Beall's comment.
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the literal nothing as You like to imagine, does not exist just for an hint18 January 2018 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to Norman Beall's comment.
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yes, after 500 years, you got no idems to measure once lost sperm, you understand ?18 January 2018 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to Norman Beall's comment.
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You measure "nothing" from human perspective,
try to look from outside in to our worlds,
You are stuck in to a words to much,
and if you understand, that it is NOTHING when potential is lost,
as there is NOTHING after,
but it can be something, when many nothings (humans) are interlinked proper way18 January 2018 00:01
Margus Meigo replied to Norman Beall's comment.
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Simplest scenario: SOMETHING: Measurable outcome in 500 years,
Nothing: No trace not change in 500 years, no product.
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Substance:
there is a 2 mother, who took a sperm (what it self can be nothing when vaporized) , to produce 5 sons,
One mother 5 sons took a wife, got children, grow generation, build a city, advanced in science and made time-travel portals that ended up transporting planet in to another dimension and greet a God,
another mother 5 sons, just lived, become homos, did not write any piece of worth inspiration, and after 500 years ,there was nothing of them
So. the beginning was by looking backwards, equally nothing from what can come out something18 January 2018 00:00
Margus Meigo replied to Norman Beall's comment.
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You are to static,
0 does not have to be 0 in any given time spectrum,
it can be 0 in 500 time year (when to take sample, and then next sample in next 500.. to see if there was anything..), or it can be Not 0 in some time period. meaning, you took equal thing that was 0 after 500 years, and it is by far from 0 in next 500 also17 January 2018 23:57
Margus Meigo replied to Norman Beall's comment.
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You got a think outside a box a bit17 January 2018 23:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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just not have had a lot of chance for that.. but i know the recipe, concept17 January 2018 23:48
Margus Meigo commented on Deepak Koirala's post.
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It is not confusion , read Torah,
Torah and big bang clearly perfectly fit together, as great part of Nobel prize winners are Jewish
It is easy to make something out of nothing, i can do it also17 January 2018 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on Mir Rodeni's post.
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Time travel, already have took, it works
Really17 January 2018 23:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid eks mõistuse ja südame hetki ole paljudel, kõigilgi vast..
ai raks kus mul siin planeedil osad asjad vastukarva käivad,.. ja see arutu ajaraiskamine on...aaargh... noored igastmuud jubedat teevad,
kuid nagu ...
noored jah, palju jubedat ja halba, hullu aja ja keha, meele hingeraiskamist teevad... kuid noil see arusaadav, juhus, olukord, konditsioon.. kuid aga kui lipsumehed ja suured telekanalid undavad suurelt.. miskist utoopilisest, nagu reaalsels väärtusest,
smaalajal kui maailmas tuhat olulist probleemi mida vaja lahendada...
oeh.. kunagi opin kuidas oma meelepaha sellesoasas adekvaatselt väljendada
ai raks kus mul siin planeedil osad asjad vastukarva käivad,.. ja see arutu ajaraiskamine on...aaargh... noored igastmuud jubedat teevad,
kuid nagu ...
noored jah, palju jubedat ja halba, hullu aja ja keha, meele hingeraiskamist teevad... kuid noil see arusaadav, juhus, olukord, konditsioon.. kuid aga kui lipsumehed ja suured telekanalid undavad suurelt.. miskist utoopilisest, nagu reaalsels väärtusest,
smaalajal kui maailmas tuhat olulist probleemi mida vaja lahendada...
oeh.. kunagi opin kuidas oma meelepaha sellesoasas adekvaatselt väljendada
17 January 2018 23:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vb isegi mingite teadlaste kanalid, kus otse laborite ja haiglate tööd ülekantakse... kus näitab PÄRIS arengut, mitte mingit virtuaal jura, mis EEMAL elust, elust olenematta, nagu vähkkasvajad juurde tekitatakse, mida pole vaja ja mis ei tooda reaalselt juurde mida nad võiks kogu oam raha ja meespoweri potensiaaliga..
mehed tiritakse arulagedustele kaasa elama ja neid vahtima.. .selleasemel, et mehi suunata miskit kasulikku tegema...
töö.. koht täis.. sport... ja siis ongi päev otsas ja viimane vaba aeg mis oleks, mida peaks ajuarendamiseks kasutama, seda kasutatakse Meele-LAHUTUSEKS,
see karm paha sõna... mille sisu nii kuri.. aga ei mõisteta nii kergelt.. ku iväga meeled lahutatud on..
mehed tiritakse arulagedustele kaasa elama ja neid vahtima.. .selleasemel, et mehi suunata miskit kasulikku tegema...
töö.. koht täis.. sport... ja siis ongi päev otsas ja viimane vaba aeg mis oleks, mida peaks ajuarendamiseks kasutama, seda kasutatakse Meele-LAHUTUSEKS,
see karm paha sõna... mille sisu nii kuri.. aga ei mõisteta nii kergelt.. ku iväga meeled lahutatud on..
17 January 2018 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Palju mõistlikum oleks, kui külamehed tirivad kaigas,t istuvad maha, ja siis räägivad paar head külalugu ja ilmatarkust otsa,
naised jagavad veel oma nippe, vot need juba oleks saated mida vaadates, tunned ,et hing rikastub
naised jagavad veel oma nippe, vot need juba oleks saated mida vaadates, tunned ,et hing rikastub
17 January 2018 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Inimesed teevad igast asju mis neile kasulikud on, kui öeldakse, et sport kasulik on,
hammastepesu on ka kasulik, eks , nu kui õige asjaga pesta või.. nu see omamoodi asi, kuid point on et hammaste ja jalapesust ja pliidialla puude panemisest jms ei tehta suuri kanaleid
misk siis nendest üritustest, mis nagu otseselt kasutud ka veel, sedasi suurelt, NII surelt... ja keegi ei mäka ega võta sõna ka, ei julgeta
hammastepesu on ka kasulik, eks , nu kui õige asjaga pesta või.. nu see omamoodi asi, kuid point on et hammaste ja jalapesust ja pliidialla puude panemisest jms ei tehta suuri kanaleid
misk siis nendest üritustest, mis nagu otseselt kasutud ka veel, sedasi suurelt, NII surelt... ja keegi ei mäka ega võta sõna ka, ei julgeta
17 January 2018 23:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
suitsetamine ja joomine ka suht suur osa sellest,
ega kainena ja puhta südamega meid vist nii ärapööratud poleks saadud..
Kristlasliku meelsusega, vahest mõtlen, et korralikku erootikat vist on ka normaalsem vaadata kui sporti päevast päeva
oleks siis veel, et inimene ise jookseb ja spordikaaslastega midagi olulist ka tehakse.,peale mängimise ja kannumise kui kokku saadakse.. aga ei ainult kannumise pärast kokk usaadaksegi ,saadakse hunik raha ka veel selle eest, et keegi mingi pallikese korvi viskas või ringiratast pool sekundit kiiremini jooksis kui keegi teine,
kui see üle planeedi, kokku arvutada see kulu, saalide, sponsorid, riided, treeningud, kanalid, töötajad.. oomai.. millised kulutused.. raske neid sumasi isegi ette kjutada, kuid eks kunagi peaks arvutama
ega kainena ja puhta südamega meid vist nii ärapööratud poleks saadud..
Kristlasliku meelsusega, vahest mõtlen, et korralikku erootikat vist on ka normaalsem vaadata kui sporti päevast päeva
oleks siis veel, et inimene ise jookseb ja spordikaaslastega midagi olulist ka tehakse.,peale mängimise ja kannumise kui kokku saadakse.. aga ei ainult kannumise pärast kokk usaadaksegi ,saadakse hunik raha ka veel selle eest, et keegi mingi pallikese korvi viskas või ringiratast pool sekundit kiiremini jooksis kui keegi teine,
kui see üle planeedi, kokku arvutada see kulu, saalide, sponsorid, riided, treeningud, kanalid, töötajad.. oomai.. millised kulutused.. raske neid sumasi isegi ette kjutada, kuid eks kunagi peaks arvutama
17 January 2018 23:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi millest me räägime, ühiskond kes kannab riide juppe üle ümber kaela ja sedagi ei peeta ei perverdseks ega täeisti totraks isegi mitte, ei märgatagi, et see haiglane... nu .. jah.. haigusi nii palju siin hullumajas
17 January 2018 23:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tuhandeid kanaleid, üle maakera, kõik vahvivad silmad punnis eri emotsioonidega, täiesti kasutut infot ja karjuvad mingisuste punktide osas mis on absoluutselt teada, et mitte midagi ei muuda maailmas.
Saaks aru, et Põhja Korea mingi olulised mängivad kellegagi millegi reaalselt peale.. aga ie.. lihtsalt mingi kommerts jura kus kui sõnavara kokku võtta ürituse lõpuks, statisltiliselt sõnu vaadata, ja karjumisi.. siis ikka suht nukker olukord on.
Tehakse täeisti ebaolulisest asjast midagi nii olulist nagu see oleks reaalselt adekvaane taolise asjapeal häält erutada
Lihtsalt ei saa aru,
tulukate perspektiivist saan jah, kergesti aru, need energia kanaldused, programeerimised ajude ja mitmed muud kontrolliks kasulikd asjad,
kuid nagu inimesed.. oma meelsuses.. täiesti mõistatamatu
Saaks aru, et Põhja Korea mingi olulised mängivad kellegagi millegi reaalselt peale.. aga ie.. lihtsalt mingi kommerts jura kus kui sõnavara kokku võtta ürituse lõpuks, statisltiliselt sõnu vaadata, ja karjumisi.. siis ikka suht nukker olukord on.
Tehakse täeisti ebaolulisest asjast midagi nii olulist nagu see oleks reaalselt adekvaane taolise asjapeal häält erutada
Lihtsalt ei saa aru,
tulukate perspektiivist saan jah, kergesti aru, need energia kanaldused, programeerimised ajude ja mitmed muud kontrolliks kasulikd asjad,
kuid nagu inimesed.. oma meelsuses.. täiesti mõistatamatu
17 January 2018 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. :)
17 January 2018 23:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10211740867573916&set=a.10211740661848773.1073741876.1135161043&type=3&theater17 January 2018 22:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Margus Meigo commented on Aavo Omann's post.
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Mul ka paar vaadet tehtud säält,
Kirikuõuelt:
Kuidas selle ümara risti tähendus on, mis on Karuse ' õuel ja miskite ordudega seotud?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10211740869533965&set=a.10211740661848773.1073741876.1135161043&type=3&theater
( kuid kaamera oli ainult 0.2-0.3 megapixlit, kui see kellegile midagi ütleb, üks maailma madalaima kvaliteediga kaameraid mis saadaval, siis 50 korda väiksema kvaliteediga kui tavapärased vanad 10-20 megapixlised kaamerad.. .. kuid imestasin, et sellegipoolest, kiriku siluette sain natuke peale tuntavalt:
tõestus, et täiesti vähesega on võimalik päris palju olulist peale saada17 January 2018 22:32
Margus Meigo commented on Toivo Niinemets's post.
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Kas see sama kirik: https://www.facebook.com/groups/556403247869024/permalink/872700672905945/17 January 2018 21:44
Margus Meigo commented on Aavo Omann's post.
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Siin veel üks postitus sama kiriku kohta:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/556403247869024/permalink/903166616526017/17 January 2018 21:43
Margus Meigo commented on Всеволод Юргенсон's post.
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Kuid eks peaks tgeelikult me vanaaja rahvalugusi tutvustama korralikult , nend emitmekihilist maagilist sisu... muidugi suurem osa raseeritud ühiskonnast ise enam vanalugude tõepõhjasi ei mõista... seega ega neist seletajat enamustest pole,
mõttekoht ka mul, oma ideede riiulis koos lahendustega17 January 2018 21:37
Margus Meigo commented on Всеволод Юргенсон's post.
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Neil oleks suur huvi selle norraka koolilasteraamatu seeriale mida eestis suuresti promotakse ja koolis õpilased ise kurdavad, poisid, et liialt vägivaldsed ja seksi täis
3-4 klass,
mõrva ja röövi müsteeriumite sari..laibad kelle otsa kummardatakse ja..17 January 2018 21:36
Margus Meigo commented on Laura Lõhmus's post.
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Huvitavam asjalu on, mida unustatakse arusaada, kes EKRE võimule aitas, iroonia kui suur selles osas
..ja eks tasu ka nõutakse, lipsud kästakse kaelas hoida ja..17 January 2018 21:34
Margus Meigo replied to Tambet Tuulsepp's comment.
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Kes Su varu soov kandidaadid, valikud olnudoleks ja miks?17 January 2018 21:32
Margus Meigo replied to Tambet Tuulsepp's comment.
Group: Valimised Eestis
kuigi on palju juhtunud, mida ma poleks arvanud, et juhub, on meil ikka suur vedamine olnud võrreldes igast muu varjantidega.
Muidu Siimul poleks ka viga olnud ja südme poolest Jõerüüt tundub, et jääks me juurte juurde kindlalt17 January 2018 21:31
Margus Meigo commented on Laura Lõhmus's post.
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Mõistlik oleks jah, muidu saab teise mürgikriimustuse ja siis enam jalakaotusega ei pruugi õnneks minna17 January 2018 21:14
Margus Meigo commented on Выборы в Эстонии's post.
Group: Valimised Eestis
Nu mida oodata, kui mees räägib ja lipps ees17 January 2018 21:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja ongi ühe a ga, vaat kus lugu
17 January 2018 20:54
Margus Meigo replied to Elmar Ekholm's comment.
irw, karmid irooniad
17 January 2018 18:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Armastab see kes noomib, see näitab hoolimist
17 January 2018 18:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mütoloogia järgi iidsemaid, mitte 100 aastased
17 January 2018 18:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mis saab narrivamalt meie kultuurile VEEL mõjuda kui kopeerida globaalset kommunistide-sotsalistide-kapitalistide - rooma-greeka homoimpeeriumi moe ja kultuuri stiile, millel pole mingit praktilist ega ilulist väärtust ammugi mitte.
Sama kõlab ka naiste pikkade kontsade ja muude ohverdustega mida nad oma Jumalapoolt loodud ideaalse kehatarvis teevad, et teistpidi ärakeeratud meeste väärmeeli ergutada.
Tegelikult oleme naturaalseilt parimad. Nagu Eestlased, naturaalseim kaasaegne iidne rahvas, oleme ju tegelikult.
Sama kõlab ka naiste pikkade kontsade ja muude ohverdustega mida nad oma Jumalapoolt loodud ideaalse kehatarvis teevad, et teistpidi ärakeeratud meeste väärmeeli ergutada.
Tegelikult oleme naturaalseilt parimad. Nagu Eestlased, naturaalseim kaasaegne iidne rahvas, oleme ju tegelikult.
17 January 2018 18:28
Margus Meigo commented on Ruuben Kaalep's post.
Peaasi, et selle Lipsu eest võtad ja normaalsed, Eestimaalase riided selga paned.
Habe võib ka suureks kasvatada ja vuntsid pikemaks, see toob ainult tarkust ja austust juurde, targeimate seltsis.
Habe võib ka suureks kasvatada ja vuntsid pikemaks, see toob ainult tarkust ja austust juurde, targeimate seltsis.
17 January 2018 18:26
Margus Meigo commented on Ruuben Kaalep's post.
Kui Venemaa hakkaks igale maale oma kahjusi heastama (või võlgasi mida USAgi neile andis..), siis ei jääks sellest maast rohkem järgi kui kremlitorniotast näha, ja siis jääks ka veel lõviosa puudu
17 January 2018 18:24
Margus Meigo replied to Maranatah Maranatah's comment.
Probably someone attacked with fake reports after some to harsh words
17 January 2018 17:52
Margus Meigo commented on LADbible's video.
Totally forgot for moment that some snakes lay eggs
17 January 2018 16:50
Margus Meigo commented on Yoko Alender's post.
Meil ei saa olla konkurentsi probleme, sest me ju ainukesed
Eestlased
Eestlased Facebookis
Eestlased
Eestlased Facebookis
17 January 2018 05:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
godly (well, wish we would be, by the heart of God)
17 January 2018 04:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
devotedly
17 January 2018 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
naturally
17 January 2018 04:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Estoniali
17 January 2018 04:57
Margus Meigo commented on Dennis Cheli's post.
humanly
17 January 2018 04:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Vaksal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLSupQmj4CU&list=RDF_QT8S_MiF8&index=27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLSupQmj4CU&list=RDF_QT8S_MiF8&index=27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLSupQmj4CU&list=RDF_QT8S_MiF8&index=27
17 January 2018 04:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" faking krdi sotsabi sõltlase mentaliteet " :p
Kuid mis plaan oleks, meie Eestlasi sedasi tarbima saada, et saaksime riigile niipalju kasu, et oleksime väljaandvad piisavalt, et sisse tuleb rohkem kui kulude katteks teenuste pakkumiseks mida maailm meilt vajab.
Nu ja mis teenused on mida vajavad Eesti sugu ja hing, et 1000, 5000 aasta pärast jääda silma erilise, armastatud, loodusliku ja ilusana.
Loomulikult enda jäädvustamised olulisemad mitmekesiselt ja muu maailma olulisemate tarkuste ja noorkultuuride kergematki kokkuvõtted mõistmaks kellegi juuri ja kogukonda kui kohtume, siis alati õigemeelsed ja kursis õigesti tundume nii endale kui teistele.
Nu elementaarsed suunad poliitikal peab olema ju suuresplaanis kokkulepitud, ja node lepete sisu väga lihtne teha (lõpetades selle pika juramise lõpptulemusega mis suht sarnane enamuste lipsumaadega),sest kõik teavad, et on vaieldamatult hea, kui me selles Tulevikus endiselt oskame kasvatada lina ja sellest tooteid luua, puitu armastada ja sellest majapidamisi luua, ning tunneme kedagi kes julgeb allikatest juua ja metsaande koju tuua.
Nu kui keegi ei tea ühtegi Eestlast, siis tekib küsimus, kas Tulevikus tahame taolisi inimesi omamaal veel kauaaega näha, on selleks ajaks integratsioon lõpetatud, sest suunad algusest saati sinnasuunas paika pandud?
Kellel on lõppvisioon rohkem Eestlaslik ja siis üksteisel erakonnad erineva julge kauguse suunda peaks olema abistamine, suunasuund nagunii üks, lihtsalt mõnel veel kaugemale, positiivsemalt, teistel lähitulevikuline ja tagasihoidlikumalt, kuid kellel mida lõplikuma suuna suunaline tema suurplaan peaks olema alati lõplikuna arvesse võetud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX6j11ndA7A
Kuid mis plaan oleks, meie Eestlasi sedasi tarbima saada, et saaksime riigile niipalju kasu, et oleksime väljaandvad piisavalt, et sisse tuleb rohkem kui kulude katteks teenuste pakkumiseks mida maailm meilt vajab.
Nu ja mis teenused on mida vajavad Eesti sugu ja hing, et 1000, 5000 aasta pärast jääda silma erilise, armastatud, loodusliku ja ilusana.
Loomulikult enda jäädvustamised olulisemad mitmekesiselt ja muu maailma olulisemate tarkuste ja noorkultuuride kergematki kokkuvõtted mõistmaks kellegi juuri ja kogukonda kui kohtume, siis alati õigemeelsed ja kursis õigesti tundume nii endale kui teistele.
Nu elementaarsed suunad poliitikal peab olema ju suuresplaanis kokkulepitud, ja node lepete sisu väga lihtne teha (lõpetades selle pika juramise lõpptulemusega mis suht sarnane enamuste lipsumaadega),sest kõik teavad, et on vaieldamatult hea, kui me selles Tulevikus endiselt oskame kasvatada lina ja sellest tooteid luua, puitu armastada ja sellest majapidamisi luua, ning tunneme kedagi kes julgeb allikatest juua ja metsaande koju tuua.
Nu kui keegi ei tea ühtegi Eestlast, siis tekib küsimus, kas Tulevikus tahame taolisi inimesi omamaal veel kauaaega näha, on selleks ajaks integratsioon lõpetatud, sest suunad algusest saati sinnasuunas paika pandud?
Kellel on lõppvisioon rohkem Eestlaslik ja siis üksteisel erakonnad erineva julge kauguse suunda peaks olema abistamine, suunasuund nagunii üks, lihtsalt mõnel veel kaugemale, positiivsemalt, teistel lähitulevikuline ja tagasihoidlikumalt, kuid kellel mida lõplikuma suuna suunaline tema suurplaan peaks olema alati lõplikuna arvesse võetud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX6j11ndA7A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX6j11ndA7A
17 January 2018 04:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
40% osa jäi kuidagisilma
17 January 2018 04:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See on mingi päris hea tee
17 January 2018 03:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kärajate kokkutuleku saaremeeste jutujätk tuli meelde
17 January 2018 03:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mitte tuhkagi ei saa aru veel, kui suurtähtsuselt proovida peas ette kujutada mida ja miks räägitakse,
" Riigikontroll andis maaelukomisjonile ülevaate riigi ülesannete rahastamisest Euroopa Liidu toetustest. Komisjoni liige Urmas Kruuse on murelik, sest Euroopa Liidu toetuste osakaal valitsussektori investeeringutes on liiga suur ja tundub, et valitsus pole toetusraha vähenemiseks valmis.
Kruuse sõnul tõi Riigikontroll oma ülevaates välja, et hinnanguliselt ca 50% valitsussektori investeeringutest ja ca 11% riigieelarve kogukuludest on rahastatud Euroopa Liidu toetustest. „Arvestades, et 2021. aastal algaval eelarveperioodil vähenevad Eestile eraldatavad toetused tõenäoliselt ligi 40%, siis tuleks selleks valmistuda.“
„Risk on eelkõige selles, et Euroopa Liidu toel rahastatakse ka riigi ülesannete täitmiseks pikaajaliselt vajalikke tegevusi, mis ei tohiks nö võõrrahast sõltuda. Eesti riigi tulu- ja kulustruktuuri ning rahvastikuprotsesse arvestades ei pruugi raha leidmine tulevikus olla kerge,“ ütles Kruuse.
„Karuteene on valitsus teinud uue segase maksusüsteemiga, mis ignoreerib demograafilisi arenguid ning karistab eelkõige nõrgemaid, sh töötavaid pensionäre. Kaasa ei aita defitsiidis olev eelarve ja tulevaste põlvede arvelt üle jõu elamine,“ selgitas Kruuse.
„Üheks suureks murekohaks on ka investeeringud maaelusse (iga aasta ca 300 miljonit eurot), mis vähenevad tulevikus suures mahus. Kuidas aga maaelu vähenevate finantside olukorras endiselt edasi arendada, selleks puudub riigil hetkel konkreetne plaan,“ lisas Kruuse.
https://www.reform.ee/uudised/urmas-kruuse-valitsus-pole-valmis-el-i-toetuste-vahenemiseks
" Riigikontroll andis maaelukomisjonile ülevaate riigi ülesannete rahastamisest Euroopa Liidu toetustest. Komisjoni liige Urmas Kruuse on murelik, sest Euroopa Liidu toetuste osakaal valitsussektori investeeringutes on liiga suur ja tundub, et valitsus pole toetusraha vähenemiseks valmis.
Kruuse sõnul tõi Riigikontroll oma ülevaates välja, et hinnanguliselt ca 50% valitsussektori investeeringutest ja ca 11% riigieelarve kogukuludest on rahastatud Euroopa Liidu toetustest. „Arvestades, et 2021. aastal algaval eelarveperioodil vähenevad Eestile eraldatavad toetused tõenäoliselt ligi 40%, siis tuleks selleks valmistuda.“
„Risk on eelkõige selles, et Euroopa Liidu toel rahastatakse ka riigi ülesannete täitmiseks pikaajaliselt vajalikke tegevusi, mis ei tohiks nö võõrrahast sõltuda. Eesti riigi tulu- ja kulustruktuuri ning rahvastikuprotsesse arvestades ei pruugi raha leidmine tulevikus olla kerge,“ ütles Kruuse.
„Karuteene on valitsus teinud uue segase maksusüsteemiga, mis ignoreerib demograafilisi arenguid ning karistab eelkõige nõrgemaid, sh töötavaid pensionäre. Kaasa ei aita defitsiidis olev eelarve ja tulevaste põlvede arvelt üle jõu elamine,“ selgitas Kruuse.
„Üheks suureks murekohaks on ka investeeringud maaelusse (iga aasta ca 300 miljonit eurot), mis vähenevad tulevikus suures mahus. Kuidas aga maaelu vähenevate finantside olukorras endiselt edasi arendada, selleks puudub riigil hetkel konkreetne plaan,“ lisas Kruuse.
https://www.reform.ee/uudised/urmas-kruuse-valitsus-pole-valmis-el-i-toetuste-vahenemiseks
https://www.reform.ee/uudised/urmas-kruuse-valitsus-pole-valmis-el-i-toetuste-vahenemiseks
17 January 2018 03:03
Margus Meigo commented on Denis Vinogradov's photo.
Ossa, miskid inimestel väga vedas, et taoline üritus ülesleida
16 January 2018 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on Kapoti Kalev's photo.
Nu meestele ütle, et nad kohe Lipsud seljast kraamiks
Lipsud ainult halba õnne lõppude lõpuks toovad.
Tuus crew
Lipsud ainult halba õnne lõppude lõpuks toovad.
Tuus crew
16 January 2018 20:32
Margus Meigo commented on Kapoti Kalev's post.
Vaat, et siis tuleb loota, et ikka vanastkontost koopia oled saanud teha, ekspordi, et sõnumid, info, vahetused... alles oleks.
Inimesed kaotavad kergelt infot aga kümneid aastaid hiljem võib alles olla vaja,seda mis vanasti oli niisama kuskil kergelt kättesaadav
Inimesed kaotavad kergelt infot aga kümneid aastaid hiljem võib alles olla vaja,seda mis vanasti oli niisama kuskil kergelt kättesaadav
16 January 2018 20:31
Margus Meigo commented on Taavi Pärtel's post.
Group: Isamaa 2.0 - Isamaa sõprade klubi
Tule meeles pidada mismoodi Isamaaliitu õõnestamis programm neil tulnukatel õõnestus, kus panustati heameelsete aksepteeriva südamele, kes oma ridadesse järjest rohkem ühe või teise väärastumisega inimesi lasi, numbritega võidu jooksmise ja suuremeelsuse eduleviimise lootuses, aga ei arvestatud kuidas külge aastatega poogiti ja sees olevate meelsuses auke leitavatelsisse poogiti, meelsus, mis alatukäitumisega siserünnaku lõhestamiseks korraldada mitte ainult siis said vaid saavadka siis kui uuesti tarvis oleks nii magavagentide kui meie enda unustustele panustades, kui vaid vaja oleks..
Kuid sellegipoolest, tuleb ka riismeid säilitada ja leivapuru kokku pühkida,
Arvestada, et need kes õnneutmad: - kes veelgi nähtvamalt vastasteel jumalameelse tõe lõpliku suunani jõudmaks, koos meitele pantud päitsetega noid lausa karuraudadega paigal lõksus ja valus hoitakse, ja ei saa kedagi enne rebida õigele teele nii lihtsalt (teist süüdistades, ku ito ei tule,ei näe..) kui pole vabastatud üliedukate psühholoogia teadlaste ja alatuste meistrite lõksud, illusioonsed ja reaalsed püünised.
Mõned teadlikult teinud leppe ristteel, mõned ehmatati väheste maiste sidemete tõttu eksiteele kusedaspidi klappe silmees hoiti ja tubasoojapiiril.. et põgenema ei kipuks...
Kuid meie Eestlaste Suuremeelsuse ja Ettenägemise kvaliteetidega praktiline Hing, tuleb iga innaeest pääste teel hoida, kasvõi nende poolt kes ise juba sulguvate uste taga veel näinud kodumaavbadust ainult lootuses.. kes ise juba patustanud omas arusaamas ja suuvinud, et oleks saanud midagi paremini oma Isamaa tarvis teha, kui vaid oleks turvalisemad võimalused olnud.. need kõik kes küll päevast päeva sunnitud lipsu kandma kartuses, mis juhtub tähelepanuga kui selle poomisköie, jalutusketi olemust teadvustama hakkavad.. kõik need kes ka kindlat sigategu teinud, arvestamata mis plekid see meie riigikaitsesse toob ja mis elukeskonnad ja ilukeskonnad likvideerib tulevaste põlvede silmadetarvis (sa võtsid siit, teine säält, kolmas kolmandast, iga üksarvas, et mujale ika jääb ja sääl veelon...kuid tulevikus tuhjal petoonmaanteel varemeid vaadates, lastesilmis kõik võrdselt süüdi on kes kui iganes mahlase ajutise koostööna mingi õunapuu kuskil mahasaagis ja samblad asfaldiks muutis...)
.. et teie kõik, kellel on süda ja mõistus alles, sest tunnete, et oleks saanud paremini, (see märge, ju,et veel onhea, saab hingepatt veelgi minna sügavustesse, kus enam ise ei mäelta, ei teadvusta ega soovigi uurida oma enda minevikutegude mõju ja tegematajäänud võimalusi...)
.. te kõik siis, kes tunnevad süüd, ja näevad kuigi lootusetut olukorda, ärge kartke ega meelt ammugi meie maakohane pole õigus heita, ka siis kui Viikingi tera Sul kõripeal, (/tehke mis saate teistegi heade jaoks, kasvõi südames kuni võimlaus praktiseerida oma Eestlust /) sest ausus ja headus võidab ükskord niiguiniii!
// Vaimukanaldus Meiemeelsetele16 January 2018 19:24
Margus Meigo commented on Taavi Pärtel's post.
Group: Isamaa 2.0 - Isamaa sõprade klubi
Võit pole vastuhakk
Vastuhak pole võit
Võit on siis kui vastuhakanud õiges arusaamas kuuletuma saad ja kui vastased enda võidule teed sillutama pannud oled16 January 2018 19:08
Margus Meigo commented on Carmen Peedo's post.
Väga mitmes tähenduses, nii keskond kui olukord.
Huvitavaid arusaame jääb tuleviku millenniumi rahvastel inimkonnaaarusaamiseks õppida ja mõistatada,
Huvitavaid arusaame jääb tuleviku millenniumi rahvastel inimkonnaaarusaamiseks õppida ja mõistatada,
16 January 2018 19:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
16 January 2018 18:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
give me a break..
"In 2001, the United States Supreme Court decided that performing surveillance of private property (ostensibly to detect high emission grow lights used in clandestine cannabis farming) using thermal imaging cameras without a search warrant by law enforcement violates the Fourth Amendment's protection from unreasonable searches and seizures
"In 2001, the United States Supreme Court decided that performing surveillance of private property (ostensibly to detect high emission grow lights used in clandestine cannabis farming) using thermal imaging cameras without a search warrant by law enforcement violates the Fourth Amendment's protection from unreasonable searches and seizures
16 January 2018 17:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Postiivne uudis veelkord:
"The cost of thermal imaging equipment in general has fallen dramatically after inexpensive portable and fixed infrared detectors and systems based on microelectromechanical technology were designed and manufactured for commercial, industrial and military application"
"The cost of thermal imaging equipment in general has fallen dramatically after inexpensive portable and fixed infrared detectors and systems based on microelectromechanical technology were designed and manufactured for commercial, industrial and military application"
16 January 2018 17:06
Margus Meigo replied to Denis Vinogradov's comment.
or "vice-verca" , still working on this understanding what names, letters, positions and spirit locations has been loaded in to human belief understanding
16 January 2018 17:04
Margus Meigo replied to Denis Vinogradov's comment.
Do You also think, Jesus can be Anti-Christ?
16 January 2018 17:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Topics:
Acadia II Three-Band Video Fusion Demo
Border Security Computer Vision Technologies R&D Counter-Terrorism Force Protection Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Imaging Technologies Low-Light CMOS Imaging
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Infrared light falls into two basic ranges: long-wave and medium-wave. Long-wave infrared (LWIR) cameras, sometimes called "far infrared", operate at 8 to 12 μm, and can see heat sources, such as hot engine parts or human body heat, a few miles away. Longer-distance viewing is made more difficult with LWIR because the infrared light is absorbed, scattered, and refracted by air and by water vapor.
Some long-wave cameras require their detector to be cryogenically cooled, typically for several minutes before use, although some moderately sensitive infrared cameras do not require this. Many thermal imagers, including some forward-looking infrared cameras (such as some LWIR Enhanced Vision Systems (EVS)) are also uncooled.
Medium-wave (MWIR) cameras operate in the 3 to 5 μm range. These can see almost as well, since those frequencies are less affected by water-vapor absorption, but generally require a more expensive sensor array, along with cryogenic cooling.
Many camera systems use digital image processing to improve the image quality. Infrared imaging sensor arrays often have wildly inconsistent sensitivities from pixel to pixel, due to limitations in the manufacturing process. To remedy this, the response of each pixel is measured at the factory, and a transform, most often linear, maps the measured input signal to an output level.
Some companies offer advanced "fusion" technologies that blend a visible-spectrum image with an infrared-spectrum image to produce better results than a single-spectrum image alone
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The science and technology of systems that see and understand—computer vision—offers solutions to data acquisition and exploitation challenges in defense, security, robotics, training, and the medical marketplace. Cameras and sensors have become ubiquitous: extracting meaningful information from acquired images in real time and in real world applications requires the right set of tools.
End-to-end vision capabilities include enhanced sensing, front-end video processing, and high-level analysis. An important application area is event detection and recognition to identify and extract highlights from long-form video, and to label events throughout a video so they are searchable (e.g., at what point did the candles get blown out in a birthday video?).
To meet rigorous client requirements, SRI develops, evaluates, and transitions computer vision technologies in these areas:
https://www.sri.com/research-development/computer-vision
kuigi see nu võib tunduda lahja. aga eks mõtle nüüd neid tasemeid kes lennu pealt olevat võimelised päevavanuseid inimjälgi maapinnalt eraldama mikroskoopiliste muutuste kaudu mida meie samm pinnamaale tekitab, ja mitte füüsiliste, jäljestruktuuride kaudu ainiti niivõrd kui energia tasemel
https://www.sri.com/newsroom/video/three-band-video-fusion-demo
Acadia II Three-Band Video Fusion Demo
Border Security Computer Vision Technologies R&D Counter-Terrorism Force Protection Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Imaging Technologies Low-Light CMOS Imaging
.:.
Infrared light falls into two basic ranges: long-wave and medium-wave. Long-wave infrared (LWIR) cameras, sometimes called "far infrared", operate at 8 to 12 μm, and can see heat sources, such as hot engine parts or human body heat, a few miles away. Longer-distance viewing is made more difficult with LWIR because the infrared light is absorbed, scattered, and refracted by air and by water vapor.
Some long-wave cameras require their detector to be cryogenically cooled, typically for several minutes before use, although some moderately sensitive infrared cameras do not require this. Many thermal imagers, including some forward-looking infrared cameras (such as some LWIR Enhanced Vision Systems (EVS)) are also uncooled.
Medium-wave (MWIR) cameras operate in the 3 to 5 μm range. These can see almost as well, since those frequencies are less affected by water-vapor absorption, but generally require a more expensive sensor array, along with cryogenic cooling.
Many camera systems use digital image processing to improve the image quality. Infrared imaging sensor arrays often have wildly inconsistent sensitivities from pixel to pixel, due to limitations in the manufacturing process. To remedy this, the response of each pixel is measured at the factory, and a transform, most often linear, maps the measured input signal to an output level.
Some companies offer advanced "fusion" technologies that blend a visible-spectrum image with an infrared-spectrum image to produce better results than a single-spectrum image alone
-
The science and technology of systems that see and understand—computer vision—offers solutions to data acquisition and exploitation challenges in defense, security, robotics, training, and the medical marketplace. Cameras and sensors have become ubiquitous: extracting meaningful information from acquired images in real time and in real world applications requires the right set of tools.
End-to-end vision capabilities include enhanced sensing, front-end video processing, and high-level analysis. An important application area is event detection and recognition to identify and extract highlights from long-form video, and to label events throughout a video so they are searchable (e.g., at what point did the candles get blown out in a birthday video?).
To meet rigorous client requirements, SRI develops, evaluates, and transitions computer vision technologies in these areas:
https://www.sri.com/research-development/computer-vision
kuigi see nu võib tunduda lahja. aga eks mõtle nüüd neid tasemeid kes lennu pealt olevat võimelised päevavanuseid inimjälgi maapinnalt eraldama mikroskoopiliste muutuste kaudu mida meie samm pinnamaale tekitab, ja mitte füüsiliste, jäljestruktuuride kaudu ainiti niivõrd kui energia tasemel
https://www.sri.com/newsroom/video/three-band-video-fusion-demo
https://www.sri.com/research-development/computer-vision
16 January 2018 17:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"Forward looking infrared (FLIR) cameras, typically used on military and civilian aircraft, use a thermographic camera that senses infrared radiation."
"The wavelength of infrared that thermal imaging cameras detect is 3 to 12 μm, and differs significantly from that of night vision, which operates in the visible light and near-infrared ranges (0.4 to 1.0 μm)." (siia reaalelu võrdluse peaks tooma juurde)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_looking_infrared
"The wavelength of infrared that thermal imaging cameras detect is 3 to 12 μm, and differs significantly from that of night vision, which operates in the visible light and near-infrared ranges (0.4 to 1.0 μm)." (siia reaalelu võrdluse peaks tooma juurde)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_looking_infrared
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_looking_infrared
16 January 2018 17:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Truth hurts the ones who is fragile most, and them choose to attack or block, so lets hope, madame, You are from another tree.
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I also have done in life things, i think was good, and my choice, luckily the life has had mercy on me to teach me fast.
// appropriate Your reply
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I also have done in life things, i think was good, and my choice, luckily the life has had mercy on me to teach me fast.
// appropriate Your reply
16 January 2018 15:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ebe Kastein Difficult to crasp for some (woman),that it was MAN, homos and aliens-makeup, as FIRST level, to implement in to Women brain (with clever psychology), the self belief that this is something what women WANTS to do,
(yes there was natural, Temporally coloring and flowering of a women's Natural life, but not this modern Order-Fashion... )
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It is marketing simple, basic ABC even on these days now, that BEST the product seller needs to do, is to make buyer in to belief, that one needs it, and that it is their self freedom and decision to test-try and look as THEY-self(isly) want
if some women in purpose does it, then rises it Question; even if that is possible, that REAL (awake) women do it in full purpose by Knowing Why the modern makeup psychology-fashion-Order was invented .. and when they keep promoting this as normality in where they feel them self good... then it rises a question to who and why they working for spiritually.
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Most drinkers, smokers, and life wasters also often say, they do it not because of others by they self want to do it and like to be so , its "their freedom" them-say.
Makeup & high-heels is and will be,in these way as it's in modern world, a enslavement of a women
(also underwear and bra's, shaving, competing against " a man", is part of imprisonment system)
(yes there was natural, Temporally coloring and flowering of a women's Natural life, but not this modern Order-Fashion... )
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It is marketing simple, basic ABC even on these days now, that BEST the product seller needs to do, is to make buyer in to belief, that one needs it, and that it is their self freedom and decision to test-try and look as THEY-self(isly) want
if some women in purpose does it, then rises it Question; even if that is possible, that REAL (awake) women do it in full purpose by Knowing Why the modern makeup psychology-fashion-Order was invented .. and when they keep promoting this as normality in where they feel them self good... then it rises a question to who and why they working for spiritually.
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Most drinkers, smokers, and life wasters also often say, they do it not because of others by they self want to do it and like to be so , its "their freedom" them-say.
Makeup & high-heels is and will be,in these way as it's in modern world, a enslavement of a women
(also underwear and bra's, shaving, competing against " a man", is part of imprisonment system)
16 January 2018 15:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja ega siis kõik vast ka masinagamõõdetavaks eip jää, ei saa,
... kui siis katekooriadjah, tunduvad piiratud mis võimalikud... kuid sisutabamise ja olemise suunad ja poensiaalid, ei jää kunagi tabamisse neil, kes kuninglikku müsteeriumi maailmu südamesse alles jätavad... need sümbolid mis tähendas, peaa maha võtta neil kes seeni ei sõõnud,ehk kes olid väljastpoolt potensiaalsed ohtlikud Jumalatees kahtlevad vaimureetorid inimkehas.. see oht vale pea osas vast polegi nii suur kui kokkuarvestada seda vaeva ja valu, orjapõlve agooniat mille tekitanud oleme, jättes arvamatta, kellel sobib lauataga istuda ja kes peaks veel enne Vallhallat või Põrguteed viimasel meeleparandusolukorras reheall armu õppima tajuma
... kui siis katekooriadjah, tunduvad piiratud mis võimalikud... kuid sisutabamise ja olemise suunad ja poensiaalid, ei jää kunagi tabamisse neil, kes kuninglikku müsteeriumi maailmu südamesse alles jätavad... need sümbolid mis tähendas, peaa maha võtta neil kes seeni ei sõõnud,ehk kes olid väljastpoolt potensiaalsed ohtlikud Jumalatees kahtlevad vaimureetorid inimkehas.. see oht vale pea osas vast polegi nii suur kui kokkuarvestada seda vaeva ja valu, orjapõlve agooniat mille tekitanud oleme, jättes arvamatta, kellel sobib lauataga istuda ja kes peaks veel enne Vallhallat või Põrguteed viimasel meeleparandusolukorras reheall armu õppima tajuma
16 January 2018 15:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Vaat ükspäev tuleb aeg, kus sjoojust, infra, igast muude huvitavate vibratsioone ja mateeria tihedust testivate kaameratega saad rahvamassis jälgida, kes on mis katekooriast.
16 January 2018 15:35
Margus Meigo replied to Kristina Leppik's comment.
Group: Nõid annab nõu...
inimesed ise lasevad ennast juhiduda neil kaartidel selles mottes küll kergesti et kui kaarte pannakse siis hakataksegi seda osa elust eraldi rohkem tähele panema ja esile tooma...
// tegelikult miskit muud lisaks oli plaanis, aga eip saanud kirjutatud seda..14 January 2018 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's post.
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Peaksite uurima, et kaardid kas on otse olenditelt inimestele tehtud inimesi trikitamiseks, suunamiseks, karjatmaiseks.. thiti need kaardid ka lihtsamad ja pealiskaudsemad arvatvasti..
kuid eeldada saab siis, et need kes loodus võlukunstide ja sügavate teadmistega tegelevad, nende loodud kaartidesse inimliigile tegelikkult vajalikul moel neid mõtte ja tedmisuunajaid pandud14 January 2018 23:37
Margus Meigo commented on Fischer King's post.
Truth have to be understood not searched
14 January 2018 21:21
Margus Meigo replied to Domenica Hermaphroditos Studer's comment.
sometimes nature is plain dumb we think..but this one is just perhaps posessed
14 January 2018 21:20
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Lootuse Kultuur
14 January 2018 15:48
Margus Meigo replied to Lilika Ly's comment.
inimeste võrgustikku
(kes omavahel arusaavad mis tulemuste suunal on suund
(kes omavahel arusaavad mis tulemuste suunal on suund
14 January 2018 15:47
Margus Meigo replied to Piia Ri's comment.
Kuid yea, lootus mulle ikka jääb, et on palju neid kes teab, et elu tuleb hoida ja nendehulgas on omakorda palju neid kes väga paljude asjade osas nõustuvad, kuidas on ja olema peaks ning see ongi see mis kogu seda inimelu veel rööbastel hoiab. Ühiskonna eludena, külast linnani...
kuig linnas seda elu struktuuri juba suts raskem nii naturaalselt näha
kuig linnas seda elu struktuuri juba suts raskem nii naturaalselt näha
14 January 2018 12:27
Margus Meigo replied to Piia Ri's comment.
Lilika Ly nu egas kõik asjad ka kõikide jaoks eri vaatenurgast ja oma moodi pole ju, ikka mingid asjad olema peaks mis meid liidavad ka
14 January 2018 12:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kus kos lainena eri vaimud külas olid
14 January 2018 12:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(l<use ühest ususaate seest)
14 January 2018 12:10
Margus Meigo commented on Ebe Kastein's photo.
So beautiful cloth colors
14 January 2018 12:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
these kind of appearance in many ways makes women look weaker
no doubt many agree, few in todays world dare to mention
no doubt many agree, few in todays world dare to mention
14 January 2018 12:06
Margus Meigo commented on Ebe Kastein's photo.
Oh.. but newer can it be more (beauty-truthful), then a real, natural woman
No nails work to much that is unpractical not makeup that is from the times when romans forced womans to mark them self..
And now it is cultural norm..
Just wondering
and eyes can be more full of truthful power when they clean.. as we all know what kind of maintenance it takes.. and that after few cry's or sleeps, one would need to serve front of mirror again.. while natural women is ready to go, ready to be, ready to accept and lead
No nails work to much that is unpractical not makeup that is from the times when romans forced womans to mark them self..
And now it is cultural norm..
Just wondering
and eyes can be more full of truthful power when they clean.. as we all know what kind of maintenance it takes.. and that after few cry's or sleeps, one would need to serve front of mirror again.. while natural women is ready to go, ready to be, ready to accept and lead
14 January 2018 12:04
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Metsamaa's photo.
Sellepärast ka kustumatu iluga oled
14 January 2018 11:50
Margus Meigo replied to Piia Ri's comment.
Lilika Ly see nüüd küll optimistlik pole
14 January 2018 11:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey, yes when i was pierced it was also main infused with a extreme pleasure flow in a supposed spot ..
but am assume ,surely it felt not so well to most if any..
So why am had this experience.. interesting to know to my self as well, besides getting information about how this joined many worlds... (just by the share strange hyped act)
but am assume ,surely it felt not so well to most if any..
So why am had this experience.. interesting to know to my self as well, besides getting information about how this joined many worlds... (just by the share strange hyped act)
14 January 2018 05:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
What a joy
ar u mad
ar u mad
14 January 2018 05:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Nõid annab nõu...
"Jodorowsky’s cinematic dream logic comes not only from his work as a “shamanic psychotherapist.” He also credits the tarot for his psychomagical realism. “For me,” says Jodorowsky in the video at the top, “the tarot was something more serious. It was a deep psychological search.” The result of that search---Jodorowsky’s singular and totally unforgettable body of work---speaks to us of the value of such an undertaking, whatever means one uses to get there.
Or as Jodorowsky says in one of his mystical pronouncements, “If you set your spirit to something, that phenomenon will happen.” If that sounds like magical thinking, that’s exactly what it is. "14 January 2018 05:39
Margus Meigo replied to Lilika Ly's comment.
Group: Nõid annab nõu...
Et sisi tema kaarte tasub ka uurida: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqnVKr9hf4A
Juba kultuur iväärtuse poolest ja kes nendega kursis teavad teed ka eri suundade kaartide osas,
Kes selle mehe tööga pole kursis, siis eeldatavasti palju muu olulisega polda ka kursis taimede maailmast ega usust ja kultuurist mis seda maaipnda siin juhib ja suunabhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqnVKr9hf4A
14 January 2018 05:37
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's post.
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Kuid küsimusele vastus, vaata: Alexandro Jodorowsky kaarte-raamatut,
tal selle Holy Montain filmy võid ka juba vaadata, Tasuta saadav
šamanism, taro, roomlased, natsid, krisltus, tööstus ja palju muud seostatud ...teemaga tegelevatel inimestel tasub ikka vaadata..
http://www.openculture.com/2016/10/alexander-jodorowsky-explains-how-tarot-cards-can-give-you-creative-inspiration.html
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6551807-the-way-of-tarothttp://www.openculture.com/2016/10/alexander-jodorowsky-explains-how-tarot-cards-can-give-you-creative-inspiration.html
14 January 2018 05:35
Margus Meigo replied to Lilika Ly's comment.
Group: Nõid annab nõu...
st. arvestades ka seda kelle sees see taaarode asi on võimlaik...14 January 2018 05:30
Margus Meigo replied to Lilika Ly's comment.
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jumalikult..14 January 2018 05:30
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's photo.
mmm vaat mis mahamagasin,
Nagu Tõstamaa Vanasõna ütleb: kes internetis ei passi see kooki ei saa
Nagu Tõstamaa Vanasõna ütleb: kes internetis ei passi see kooki ei saa
14 January 2018 05:27
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's post.
See on nii ilus kirjatükk!
14 January 2018 05:24
Margus Meigo replied to Piia Ri's comment.
Nu mis mõttes, sa suht tavaliselt ja tagasihoidlikult poest asju võtnud nii paar korda kui ma näinud...
kui yeah..
kui yeah..
14 January 2018 05:24
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's post.
Julgus
14 January 2018 05:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Iff laulis "las keedab mu tee veidike veel"
14.pühapäev. 3.05 / mingi laul järgi, mis laul see sonum on, veider laul ka "üleni kaetud" ..muusika efektitki ebatavalise folgi ja millegi elektroonilise keskaja müstika segu (keskajalise elektroonika) ning // see kolmas osa läks meelest
ERR uudised
14.pühapäev. 3.05 / mingi laul järgi, mis laul see sonum on, veider laul ka "üleni kaetud" ..muusika efektitki ebatavalise folgi ja millegi elektroonilise keskaja müstika segu (keskajalise elektroonika) ning // see kolmas osa läks meelest
ERR uudised
14 January 2018 03:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(liialt ekraani ja liialt juba tänastelt vaimudelt välja piustatud, pingutatud leebelt)
14 January 2018 02:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
olles, aaah ei viitsi prgu edasi kirjutada
14 January 2018 02:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kui kraadid juurde arvata, siis muidugi veerand tähendab ka 90 t, mis oligi jutu alguse mõõtme point,
et kui keegi soovib teada, kristlaste olemust ja risti sümboolikat lisa tähendust, kui tundub, et veel vaja juurde, siis hea külg küllale liiga ei tee targalt toimides
et siis rstivastu minejatele, nad mitte ei satu sinust sinu soovitud kaugusele, vaid alati moodustavad sinu kõrval eemale minnes, rsitiretke läbi sinu ka, olles
et kui keegi soovib teada, kristlaste olemust ja risti sümboolikat lisa tähendust, kui tundub, et veel vaja juurde, siis hea külg küllale liiga ei tee targalt toimides
et siis rstivastu minejatele, nad mitte ei satu sinust sinu soovitud kaugusele, vaid alati moodustavad sinu kõrval eemale minnes, rsitiretke läbi sinu ka, olles
14 January 2018 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(ja siis kuna veerand saab olla 15, mis on 1/4, kuuekymnendsysteemis siis sajandsysteemis 1/4 on 25. Ehk siis nii 15 kui 25 on vastus: kui palju on veerand, protsendiliselt või numbriliselt- ja siis kui mõelda, saame aru ,et veerand saab olla iga number.. või eks ? )
14 January 2018 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
on ikka, veerand neli (kuid kuna skaala pole sajane.. siis ikka.. uuesti 15 peale langeb)
Seega veerand saab olla siis täismahust nii 1/4 kui ka 15
Seega veerand saab olla siis täismahust nii 1/4 kui ka 15
14 January 2018 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1/4 st, mitte veerand,
v on 25 veerand, ega ju ?
v on 25 veerand, ega ju ?
14 January 2018 02:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"nu siis saaame mis muud su jaoks teha ku lubame, et täpselt veerandi kaugusel oleme sinust alati mis iganes suunas sa lähed siit ristist
14 January 2018 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui nad ristteel kohtuvad siis ükspool on nagu : Are You for real? Sinna suunda?
14 January 2018 02:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
srry talking to musch, ega ju?
14 January 2018 02:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
paar varu olukorda on varutud ja veel käputäis ekstreem olukorra tarvis, kuid see nagu jääpangalt mättale hüppamine, kuid ikkagi, mätas alles
kuid seda ka ei näe kust ilmaruumist eri reaalsus osas kokku sulanduvad ja tulevad
ja peab akseteerima eriti sügavalt igast andi et suurema poole ümber tulev headusCreationi kuma haare oleks
piisav õigelajal õige tuleviku loomise
kuid seda ka ei näe kust ilmaruumist eri reaalsus osas kokku sulanduvad ja tulevad
ja peab akseteerima eriti sügavalt igast andi et suurema poole ümber tulev headusCreationi kuma haare oleks
piisav õigelajal õige tuleviku loomise
14 January 2018 02:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
elusse tuua, selliselt kui ümberringi Eestimaalased oleks, eestimaalaste poolsed
14 January 2018 02:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(ja mõeld avaid, et samal ajal ma täeisti vb homme teoteetiliselt reaal 12 kraadi külma, kui elementaarsed väga kergest valesti minna võivad asjad, valesti minna võivad, ja siis olukorda kus ei ole võimalik (sest-nii-on-eriolukord-mida-lihtne-Teistel-muutuseks-kanal-avada--kayksteisel) muud kui olla selles olukoras/lihtsalt-on-nii & nüüd mõtle olukorda ja arusaada, et ilma mahategemata proovi nüüd lihtsalt arusaada, et kuna eestis neid kes võluväel ennast elus hoiavad veel palju ja need palju saaks kergesti elusse tuua)
14 January 2018 02:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
whoah,! isegi parem tuli! s
14 January 2018 02:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
kui mul otsad lahti jäävad siis lõpetamata töö on ikka väga raske arusaada mis see on sest see oelks nagu esmakordseltvooluringi tutvustad ja siis .... tahtsin öelda, et puudub ...kuid siis tuli meelde kui palju vooluversioone on .. ajas segadusse.
Nii, (võtan vabalt, misiganespidi, peaasi, et see kirja saaks)
kuid jah, takistus tuli vist sellpärast, et lõplik tõde veel mitte,
kuid nii, ei peaks arvama, et alati on, (lõliku tõe all päevast päeva erinevaid tõe osasi mõeldaks,e mitte üldist kogu keskmist KA tõde mida eeldatakse, et mis keskmiselt kõigi jaoks kõige olulisem on. Sõna, tõde, ikka saate aru, et see on nagu suur puulusikas /kuhu sisse peate panema selle mileks ta väärt on , mis ta mõte on - ja siis see mis seeon , sääl ei pea olema ammugi lusika maitseline või tolle keaha seotud, kuid seeeest, väga oluliselt pidevalt kokkuputuv)
Nii, (võtan vabalt, misiganespidi, peaasi, et see kirja saaks)
kuid jah, takistus tuli vist sellpärast, et lõplik tõde veel mitte,
kuid nii, ei peaks arvama, et alati on, (lõliku tõe all päevast päeva erinevaid tõe osasi mõeldaks,e mitte üldist kogu keskmist KA tõde mida eeldatakse, et mis keskmiselt kõigi jaoks kõige olulisem on. Sõna, tõde, ikka saate aru, et see on nagu suur puulusikas /kuhu sisse peate panema selle mileks ta väärt on , mis ta mõte on - ja siis see mis seeon , sääl ei pea olema ammugi lusika maitseline või tolle keaha seotud, kuid seeeest, väga oluliselt pidevalt kokkuputuv)
14 January 2018 02:10
Margus Meigo commented on Duke Pistokache's post.
i thought they talk about Sounds of Aliens
14 January 2018 01:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
- now you know(me)
14 January 2018 01:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// Nyyd tev s räägib kuidas mees ja nais maailm voib tekkida....
ja kuidas mees kuulab kui naine räägib
ja asjade sõnastamisest.. mõtetekeelest,
ja et mees infot nagu infot saades saab võrgustikus areneda ja ühiskonda paremsue poole üheskoos viia,
(on jutu lõpp vist, aiman, lodan ette)
ja kuidas mees kuulab kui naine räägib
ja asjade sõnastamisest.. mõtetekeelest,
ja et mees infot nagu infot saades saab võrgustikus areneda ja ühiskonda paremsue poole üheskoos viia,
(on jutu lõpp vist, aiman, lodan ette)
14 January 2018 01:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
IGA vanemasuunaline kui mitte see pole Suurarmastuse ja armastuses solvumise ajutise konteineri sees,
siis, iga vanemasuunaline ebakõla peaks olema vaadatud kohe ka ärvel vanema poolt, kiid võimalust arusaada, tuletada lapsele meelde kellega ta räägib ja kas ta räägib oma pojaga või sellega tema sees kes arvab en
siis, iga vanemasuunaline ebakõla peaks olema vaadatud kohe ka ärvel vanema poolt, kiid võimalust arusaada, tuletada lapsele meelde kellega ta räägib ja kas ta räägib oma pojaga või sellega tema sees kes arvab en
14 January 2018 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Enamus ühiskord eip suuda isagi julgeda uskuda, et
teismelisprobleemid on olukorrad
kus tuleks excorsismi poole pöörduda, mitte allutada vaimude teenimisele kes läbi lapse siis ennast kehasse kasvatada proovivad luuues suhtluse endsa ja lapsevanema vahel, kus lapsevanem aksepteerib, et temsaongi see laps mitte see keha ja allutatud lapseVaim kes tuimalt või erksalt kehas kaasa loivab või elabÄrksalt
teismelisprobleemid on olukorrad
kus tuleks excorsismi poole pöörduda, mitte allutada vaimude teenimisele kes läbi lapse siis ennast kehasse kasvatada proovivad luuues suhtluse endsa ja lapsevanema vahel, kus lapsevanem aksepteerib, et temsaongi see laps mitte see keha ja allutatud lapseVaim kes tuimalt või erksalt kehas kaasa loivab või elabÄrksalt
14 January 2018 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nüüd hakatakse
ERR kanalil rääkima Hingehoidmisest
Kuid seda tuelb urida, kas Hingefilsoofia on tõesti enamuses aiult Kristlik teamdine
ERR kanalil rääkima Hingehoidmisest
Kuid seda tuelb urida, kas Hingefilsoofia on tõesti enamuses aiult Kristlik teamdine
14 January 2018 01:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kas oled liialt hea..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x69HWI830W0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x69HWI830W0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x69HWI830W0
14 January 2018 00:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kiire meelepuhastus, ETV:
kare kauks - ...
Ma näen ku ilased isa käest lahti kord
et teha ise sammud siin ilmas "
kare kauks - ...
Ma näen ku ilased isa käest lahti kord
et teha ise sammud siin ilmas "
14 January 2018 00:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hooramise ja leegioni teenimise patt polnud piisav, et siia ilma tuua surma, aga kellegi tapmine mis polnud lootusetu_teenimise_olukord, nagu naistel,
selleläbi tehtud surmamised olid need mis võimaldasid reaalsuse sinnamaani viia, et mingisugune vajalik paha saaks maailmale piisava ligipäääsu
(lõpuks läbi kordineeritud lapsesünni siiraima naise kaudu)
selleläbi tehtud surmamised olid need mis võimaldasid reaalsuse sinnamaani viia, et mingisugune vajalik paha saaks maailmale piisava ligipäääsu
(lõpuks läbi kordineeritud lapsesünni siiraima naise kaudu)
14 January 2018 00:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Poiss:
"there is somthing iside us"
ema: "thats alright there is something inside all of us"
"there is somthing iside us"
ema: "thats alright there is something inside all of us"
14 January 2018 00:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mudu tean ise ka ühte naist, VÄGA kõrgel kohal, väheseid meie ajaloos kes olnud nii siin maakeral
rääkimata meie riigist,
igatahes ta ütles, et tal tava tegevus, ku inad sisse saavad unes, vägistavad leebelt inkupaatori jaoks talle lapsed mis võetakse... siis ta töö on eraelus need lapsed üles otsida ja likvideerida muudes ilmarumides enne kui nad paha teenistuses paha teha jõuavad
rääkimata meie riigist,
igatahes ta ütles, et tal tava tegevus, ku inad sisse saavad unes, vägistavad leebelt inkupaatori jaoks talle lapsed mis võetakse... siis ta töö on eraelus need lapsed üles otsida ja likvideerida muudes ilmarumides enne kui nad paha teenistuses paha teha jõuavad
14 January 2018 00:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
abrahmi iisaku teema ka....
(ku isa demonistist pojaga kemples)
(ku isa demonistist pojaga kemples)
14 January 2018 00:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja Leegion ütles, et ta on siin isa tsapmiste mitte ema hooramiste pärast
14 January 2018 00:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
tsen:
vau, isa armastus oli võimsam kui preesteri palve
vau, isa armastus oli võimsam kui preesteri palve
14 January 2018 00:39
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Taavi Timm tuelta uuesti meelde seda
14 January 2018 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on Padre-Aivar Pahku's post.
Oluline on kellel on piirideta võluväeline, aus-karge ja austav-tark hing, millega saab südamerahus jumalale vastu minna
13 January 2018 19:44
Margus Meigo commented on Siim Tulev's post.
How did incas ever do it
13 January 2018 17:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
See täitsa Priva värk, siin saad ka kommenteerida : )
/v ümberorganiseerida
/v ümberorganiseerida
13 January 2018 13:39
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Asoo.. päriselt v?
13 January 2018 13:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tema nime kohta öelnud:
"kõlab nunnult, ilma naljata, nagu vanadest aegadest,
khuulilt ka ja nagu veits nunnu ja veits gängsta "
"kõlab nunnult, ilma naljata, nagu vanadest aegadest,
khuulilt ka ja nagu veits nunnu ja veits gängsta "
13 January 2018 07:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Pange see nüüd Eesikeelde ka
13 January 2018 06:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidu kindlasti kui nende Health Report, kes tunnelitaga, saab olema ...
sellisel tasemel ,et nad kujutavad ette, et alkoholi tahetakse viia sinna.. siis
mis nad peaks arvama, et keegi maapeal viisib sõita seeaeg, kui me õhulaevadega ringi hõljume
asi selles, et kui nad on nõus parandama läänemere sisu, risisust ja ainetest mis sinna ladustatud, merevett hoidma puhtavamana 40 aasta jooksul teatud tulemusteni jõudes, kuid alustuseks esimese perioodina kõik egavajalik mis võib ohtlik olla, eemaldada..
ei nii kolaks nagu väljapressimine..
Nu kuidagi ..kuigi see idee rikub selle solgitoru rajamise ära kudi
kuid..
ple vaja ka seda teist toru me maale sisse sõitmas veel näha.. motleme veel..
sellisel tasemel ,et nad kujutavad ette, et alkoholi tahetakse viia sinna.. siis
mis nad peaks arvama, et keegi maapeal viisib sõita seeaeg, kui me õhulaevadega ringi hõljume
asi selles, et kui nad on nõus parandama läänemere sisu, risisust ja ainetest mis sinna ladustatud, merevett hoidma puhtavamana 40 aasta jooksul teatud tulemusteni jõudes, kuid alustuseks esimese perioodina kõik egavajalik mis võib ohtlik olla, eemaldada..
ei nii kolaks nagu väljapressimine..
Nu kuidagi ..kuigi see idee rikub selle solgitoru rajamise ära kudi
kuid..
ple vaja ka seda teist toru me maale sisse sõitmas veel näha.. motleme veel..
13 January 2018 06:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
13 January 2018 05:59
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Sa linnavangis?
12 January 2018 22:22
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Kuid praegu lähiaasta plaanid olla arvan, et pärnakate ligi ja tollerannarahva hingelu õppida
12 January 2018 22:20
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Suhtleiselt, üks sada kilti
Nu ikka lähemal ku ivanal ajal :p
kuid arvatvasti sinnakanti niipea ikka eip lähe... kuig päris sinna ka ei saa kus algne unistust (kaugele tartust-viljandist sügavamale.. )
Nu ikka lähemal ku ivanal ajal :p
kuid arvatvasti sinnakanti niipea ikka eip lähe... kuig päris sinna ka ei saa kus algne unistust (kaugele tartust-viljandist sügavamale.. )
12 January 2018 22:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
hingitsen veel
11 January 2018 19:29
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
vabsje tuus, norm
11 January 2018 14:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kõik sai korda (on korda saamas), Olga päris tore tegelikult ja muretseb ka ikka inimeste pärast
11 January 2018 12:28
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Klemet's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Eha Villems Just piiel seda väitvatki, selles asi ongi.
Algses keeles, algses tõlkes, keeleteadlaste ja kultuuri ja usuteadlaste sõnul
Elohim ... kuid eks ma ise veel uuri.
Samas imestanud ka imestusega, et Kristlastel endal elementaarsed selged asjad sassis piibli osas, nagu, uudiseks mõnele kümneid aastaid kristlasena elanule, et Tarkusesõnu suuresti olevat paika sättinud Salomoni ema ja, et see kellest Tarkusesõnad 26 räägib, pole mitte Jeesus vaid Naissoost, Tarkus.
Lisaks veelgi suurem, fataalne mure on see, et paljude jaoks on uus arusaam, tegeliku piibli, vanatestamendi viimase lause mõte.
Loomulikult see lause ka selgitab, et mida vaja teha ja kuidas õiget suur-Heategijat tunda.. sest praegu võiks ju öelda, et on veel ajutiselt vastupidise trendi viimane piir kui:
Malakai:
"23 Vaata, ma läkitan teile prohvet Eelija,
enne kui tuleb Issanda päev,
suur ja kardetav.
24 Ja tema pöörab vanemate südamed
jälle laste poole
ja laste südamed
vanemate poole,
et ma ei peaks tulema ja lööma
maad needusega.”
Kuna need on lõppu pandud, selged ja kõigile arusaadavad, KÕIGILE nõustuvad sõnad, nii usklikute kui muude uskuda inimeste silmis, absoluutne tõde ja vajadus, ilma igasuguse vaidluseta.
Ja mina loodan, et sellele maale sellel sajandil veel jõuame, mida malakai 3-24 räägib.10 January 2018 20:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Would be insulting to sing-up as a "dlacker"
10 January 2018 04:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
no, can not apply, got things to do
10 January 2018 04:51
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Minu vedamise juures ei saaks ma seda ka endale kui ainukene kanditaat oleksin
10 January 2018 04:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
wonder what rays shamans use when they see through Allar Kaljundi?
10 January 2018 04:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
üks moodus rahateenida ja kellegil korralikuks rikkaks saada on see tööstus ülevõta partnerlusega ja siis üle maailma juba sedustega ku vaja rahva nõudluse ja hinnaga sundida välja vahetama kõik vanad kahjulikud sedmed ja pikaajalised, generatsioonide pikkused hooldused
10 January 2018 04:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Nowadays, there is growing interest in the development of imaging techniques which are capable of detecting and localizing angiogenesis and neovascularization. These processes induce specific changes in the microvascular structure, represent an established marker for tumours, and also provide indications of tumour aggressiveness1. In particular, dynamic contrast-enhanced ultrasound (DCE-US) imaging shows promise, with many novel approaches focusing on the direct and/or indirect characterization of the microvasculature. However, when considering the various imaging options, several challenges emerge for imaging the breast.
Typical ultrasound contrast agents (UCAs) are gas-filled microbubbles with diameters ranging between 1 and 10 μm; they are therefore suitable for intravenous injection and can flow through the smallest microvessels. This phenomenon is exploited by super-localization ultrasound techniques which overcome the diffraction limit and are capable of imaging the microvasculature with a spatial-resolution as small as 8–12 μm 2,3. Additionally, these techniques provide access to accurate velocity maps, thus offering a powerful tool for the study of microvascular blood flow. However, the relatively long imaging time needed (e.g., >2 minutes per plane2), the influence of motion, and the difficulties in imaging and localizing single microbubbles in deep tissue, pose limitations to the use of these modalities in large organs.
Another recently-developed imaging method is acoustic angiography4. With this technique, high spatial-resolution images (in the order of 100 μm) are obtained using tenfold higher frequencies than with normal DCE-US echo-imaging. Once again, the key lies in the UCAs peculiar response to ultrasound. Because of their highly nonlinear behaviour, UCAs can backscatter high-frequency broadband echo signals (15–35 MHz), which can be used to achieve improved spatial-resolution5. However, frequency-dependent attenuation practically constrains the applicability of this technique to relatively small depths, such as those required for imaging the peripheral zone of the prostate (1–2 cm).
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep34458
Typical ultrasound contrast agents (UCAs) are gas-filled microbubbles with diameters ranging between 1 and 10 μm; they are therefore suitable for intravenous injection and can flow through the smallest microvessels. This phenomenon is exploited by super-localization ultrasound techniques which overcome the diffraction limit and are capable of imaging the microvasculature with a spatial-resolution as small as 8–12 μm 2,3. Additionally, these techniques provide access to accurate velocity maps, thus offering a powerful tool for the study of microvascular blood flow. However, the relatively long imaging time needed (e.g., >2 minutes per plane2), the influence of motion, and the difficulties in imaging and localizing single microbubbles in deep tissue, pose limitations to the use of these modalities in large organs.
Another recently-developed imaging method is acoustic angiography4. With this technique, high spatial-resolution images (in the order of 100 μm) are obtained using tenfold higher frequencies than with normal DCE-US echo-imaging. Once again, the key lies in the UCAs peculiar response to ultrasound. Because of their highly nonlinear behaviour, UCAs can backscatter high-frequency broadband echo signals (15–35 MHz), which can be used to achieve improved spatial-resolution5. However, frequency-dependent attenuation practically constrains the applicability of this technique to relatively small depths, such as those required for imaging the peripheral zone of the prostate (1–2 cm).
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep34458
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep34458
10 January 2018 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Source:
Eindhoven University of Technology
Summary:
Each year, millions of women undergo mammograms for early detection of possible breast cancer. It’s an unpleasant procedure that uses X-rays. Researchers are working on a ‘breast-friendly’ method, without radiation, that is more accurate and generates 3D rather than 2D images.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/11/161103124211.htm
//another hopes
Researchers at TU Eindhoven have now cleared a major scientific hurdle towards a new technology in which the patient lies on a table and the breast hangs freely in a bowl. Using special echography (inaudible sound waves) a 3D image is made of the breast. Any cancer is clearly identifiable on the generated images; the researchers therefore expect there to be many fewer false-positive results.
The new technology builds on the patient-friendly prostate cancer detection method developed at TU/e whereby the doctor injects the patient with harmless microbubbles. An echoscanner allows these bubbles to be precisely monitored as they flow through the blood vessels of the prostate. Since cancer growth is associated with the formation of chaotic microvessels, the presence and location of cancer become visible. This method works well for the prostate and this is now being widely tested in hospitals in the Netherlands, China and, soon, Germany. For breast cancer the method had not yet been suitable because the breast shows excessive movement and size for accurate imaging by standard echography.
Researchers Libertario Demi, Ruud van Sloun and Massimo Mischi have now developed a variant of the echography method that is suitable for breast investigation. //
--
The method is known as Dynamic Contrast Specific Ultrasound Tomography. Echography with microbubbles uses the fact that the bubbles will vibrate in the blood at the same frequency as the sound produced by the echoscanner, as well as at twice that frequency; the so-called second harmonic. By capturing the vibration, you know where the bubbles are located. But body tissue also generates harmonics, and that disturbs the observation.
For the new method the researchers are using a phenomenon that Mischi happened upon by chance and later investigated its properties together with Demi. They saw that the second harmonic was a little delayed by the gas bubbles. The researchers have now developed a new visualization method. The more bubbles are encountered by the sound on its route, the bigger the delay compared to the original sound. By measuring this delay, the researchers can thus localize the air bubbles and do so without any disturbance because the harmonic generated by the body tissue is not delayed, and is therefore discernible. This difference, however, can only be seen if the sound is captured on the other side. So this method is perfectly suited to organs that can be approached from two sides, like the breast.
The researchers are currently putting together an international, strong medical team to start performing preclinical studies. Application in practice is certainly ten or so years away, Mischi expects. Moreover, he forecasts that the technology that has been developed will probably not operate on a standalone basis but in combination with other methods, which will create a better visualization. One of the candidates for this elastography, a variant of echography whereby the difference in the rigidity of the tumor and healthy tissue can be used to detect cancer.
Eindhoven University of Technology
Summary:
Each year, millions of women undergo mammograms for early detection of possible breast cancer. It’s an unpleasant procedure that uses X-rays. Researchers are working on a ‘breast-friendly’ method, without radiation, that is more accurate and generates 3D rather than 2D images.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/11/161103124211.htm
//another hopes
Researchers at TU Eindhoven have now cleared a major scientific hurdle towards a new technology in which the patient lies on a table and the breast hangs freely in a bowl. Using special echography (inaudible sound waves) a 3D image is made of the breast. Any cancer is clearly identifiable on the generated images; the researchers therefore expect there to be many fewer false-positive results.
The new technology builds on the patient-friendly prostate cancer detection method developed at TU/e whereby the doctor injects the patient with harmless microbubbles. An echoscanner allows these bubbles to be precisely monitored as they flow through the blood vessels of the prostate. Since cancer growth is associated with the formation of chaotic microvessels, the presence and location of cancer become visible. This method works well for the prostate and this is now being widely tested in hospitals in the Netherlands, China and, soon, Germany. For breast cancer the method had not yet been suitable because the breast shows excessive movement and size for accurate imaging by standard echography.
Researchers Libertario Demi, Ruud van Sloun and Massimo Mischi have now developed a variant of the echography method that is suitable for breast investigation. //
--
The method is known as Dynamic Contrast Specific Ultrasound Tomography. Echography with microbubbles uses the fact that the bubbles will vibrate in the blood at the same frequency as the sound produced by the echoscanner, as well as at twice that frequency; the so-called second harmonic. By capturing the vibration, you know where the bubbles are located. But body tissue also generates harmonics, and that disturbs the observation.
For the new method the researchers are using a phenomenon that Mischi happened upon by chance and later investigated its properties together with Demi. They saw that the second harmonic was a little delayed by the gas bubbles. The researchers have now developed a new visualization method. The more bubbles are encountered by the sound on its route, the bigger the delay compared to the original sound. By measuring this delay, the researchers can thus localize the air bubbles and do so without any disturbance because the harmonic generated by the body tissue is not delayed, and is therefore discernible. This difference, however, can only be seen if the sound is captured on the other side. So this method is perfectly suited to organs that can be approached from two sides, like the breast.
The researchers are currently putting together an international, strong medical team to start performing preclinical studies. Application in practice is certainly ten or so years away, Mischi expects. Moreover, he forecasts that the technology that has been developed will probably not operate on a standalone basis but in combination with other methods, which will create a better visualization. One of the candidates for this elastography, a variant of echography whereby the difference in the rigidity of the tumor and healthy tissue can be used to detect cancer.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/11/161103124211.htm
10 January 2018 04:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Important lists aswell
" The only limitation of the dedicated breast CT was its inferior spatial resolution. Despite more contrasty images, its resolution of small details - specifically, microcalcifications - was initially inferior to that of the standard mammography.
That, however, may not be a lasting limitations, as it was reported recently that this limitation can be overcome with a modified technology, which would make breast CT superior in all aspects of imaging, while keeping radiation dose comparable to that of the standard mammography (Concepts for High-Resolution CT of the Breast, W. Kalender 2010).
The absence of breast compression - a truly sore (and possibly dangerous) point of X-ray mammography - certainly adds to the positives of this imaging technique.
According to Boone, breast CT would cost about twice more than the standard digital mammography unit. It is uncertain how much would it cost with the Kalender's improved technology. Considering that the mere improvement in test detection capability does not solve the main problems of the standard mammography screening - false positives, overdiagnosis and overtreatment - and that early detection itself did not show convincingly that it reduces BC mortality, it is not apparent why doubling the expense without having these issues resolved would be worth it.
Breast tomosynthesis
Breast tomosynthesis is similar to the dedicated breast computed tomography (CT) in that it uses computer based reconstruction of a 3-D image from a series of 2-D X-ray images taken at different angles. Unlike CT, the X-ray unit completes only a fraction of full circle around target tissue, i.e. breast - anywhere from 15 to 60 degrees arc - hence also uses different image-constructing algorithm.
Due to the relatively small angle, similarly to the standard X-ray mammography, it may require two views, medio-lateral oblique (abbr. MLO, side view), and craniocaudal (abbr. CC, top-to-bottom).
Breast in tomosynthesis needs to be positioned and immobilized same as with X-ray mammography but, according to the manufacturer, requires less pressure.
http://www.healthknot.com/xray_alternatives_to_mammography.html
" The only limitation of the dedicated breast CT was its inferior spatial resolution. Despite more contrasty images, its resolution of small details - specifically, microcalcifications - was initially inferior to that of the standard mammography.
That, however, may not be a lasting limitations, as it was reported recently that this limitation can be overcome with a modified technology, which would make breast CT superior in all aspects of imaging, while keeping radiation dose comparable to that of the standard mammography (Concepts for High-Resolution CT of the Breast, W. Kalender 2010).
The absence of breast compression - a truly sore (and possibly dangerous) point of X-ray mammography - certainly adds to the positives of this imaging technique.
According to Boone, breast CT would cost about twice more than the standard digital mammography unit. It is uncertain how much would it cost with the Kalender's improved technology. Considering that the mere improvement in test detection capability does not solve the main problems of the standard mammography screening - false positives, overdiagnosis and overtreatment - and that early detection itself did not show convincingly that it reduces BC mortality, it is not apparent why doubling the expense without having these issues resolved would be worth it.
Breast tomosynthesis
Breast tomosynthesis is similar to the dedicated breast computed tomography (CT) in that it uses computer based reconstruction of a 3-D image from a series of 2-D X-ray images taken at different angles. Unlike CT, the X-ray unit completes only a fraction of full circle around target tissue, i.e. breast - anywhere from 15 to 60 degrees arc - hence also uses different image-constructing algorithm.
Due to the relatively small angle, similarly to the standard X-ray mammography, it may require two views, medio-lateral oblique (abbr. MLO, side view), and craniocaudal (abbr. CC, top-to-bottom).
Breast in tomosynthesis needs to be positioned and immobilized same as with X-ray mammography but, according to the manufacturer, requires less pressure.
http://www.healthknot.com/xray_alternatives_to_mammography.html
http://www.healthknot.com/xray_alternatives_to_mammography.html
10 January 2018 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Losely related:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2807680/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2807680/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2807680/
10 January 2018 04:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Scientists used a common green laser, a projector and and a digital camera.
The technique could one day improve or supplement X-rays and ultrasound.
Some day we may not need X-rays to see inside people, thanks to a new way to decipher light that passes through opaque surfaces.
Normally visible light becomes too scattered to detect after passing through opaque surfaces. But scientists in France have developed a way to reconstruct images from light passing through such surfaces by deciphering just how the material makes the light scatter.
In the short term the research will help improve the strength of telecommunications signals and fiber optics cables, but years from now the technology could supplement or even replace traditional ultrasounds for baby imaging and X-rays for weapons detection at airports. "
The technique could one day improve or supplement X-rays and ultrasound.
Some day we may not need X-rays to see inside people, thanks to a new way to decipher light that passes through opaque surfaces.
Normally visible light becomes too scattered to detect after passing through opaque surfaces. But scientists in France have developed a way to reconstruct images from light passing through such surfaces by deciphering just how the material makes the light scatter.
In the short term the research will help improve the strength of telecommunications signals and fiber optics cables, but years from now the technology could supplement or even replace traditional ultrasounds for baby imaging and X-rays for weapons detection at airports. "
10 January 2018 04:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Frants also on same time:
" Now, however, a physicist in Paris and fellow researchers say they have found they can actually reconstruct complex images from light passing through these barriers. The key is to know precisely how the barriers' substances interfere with this light.
Sylvain Gigan at the Industrial Physics and Chemistry Higher Educational Institution and his colleagues first shone a green laser beam at a layer of zinc oxide — a common ingredient in white paints — that was roughly 80 microns thick, or slightly thinner than a human hair.
By analyzing the pattern of light that passed through, the researchers generated a formula called a transmission matrix that made sense of the seemingly random way the light was scattered by the barrier. With this knowledge, they were able to reconstruct a 32-pixel by 32-pixel image of a five-petal flower projected onto the zinc oxide.
The see-through vision is not perfect, since a lot of the information needed to reconstruct images gets lost when the light gets scattered. As such, the resulting images may be grainy. It also won't find use in trying to look through walls, unless they are very thin indeed — looking through a 100-millimeter wall would prove a million times harder than looking through a wall 100 microns thick. "
https://www.livescience.com/8634-alternative-rays-step.html
making it sound like..
" Now, however, a physicist in Paris and fellow researchers say they have found they can actually reconstruct complex images from light passing through these barriers. The key is to know precisely how the barriers' substances interfere with this light.
Sylvain Gigan at the Industrial Physics and Chemistry Higher Educational Institution and his colleagues first shone a green laser beam at a layer of zinc oxide — a common ingredient in white paints — that was roughly 80 microns thick, or slightly thinner than a human hair.
By analyzing the pattern of light that passed through, the researchers generated a formula called a transmission matrix that made sense of the seemingly random way the light was scattered by the barrier. With this knowledge, they were able to reconstruct a 32-pixel by 32-pixel image of a five-petal flower projected onto the zinc oxide.
The see-through vision is not perfect, since a lot of the information needed to reconstruct images gets lost when the light gets scattered. As such, the resulting images may be grainy. It also won't find use in trying to look through walls, unless they are very thin indeed — looking through a 100-millimeter wall would prove a million times harder than looking through a wall 100 microns thick. "
https://www.livescience.com/8634-alternative-rays-step.html
making it sound like..
https://www.livescience.com/8634-alternative-rays-step.html
10 January 2018 04:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213935337914303:0
märge ka miks posti aadresse raskem saada on kui kohe copy
märge ka miks posti aadresse raskem saada on kui kohe copy
10 January 2018 04:05
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Looveer's comment.
Äitah!
9 January 2018 10:31
Margus Meigo replied to Lootus Maran's comment.
eip, lihtsalt sooviks elada, rahulikult, mõndaaega, et saaks välja mõelda lahendused mida tarvis oma eluks.
oleneb farmist kuid üldiselt selleks pole päris aega ega filsooofilist huvi talitada loomi keda siis tapma hakatakse, mis moodi ma neile loomadele silma peaks vaatama..
Eelkõige aga ei saa lubada, et enda suvalist unegraafikut rikkuma hakkaks muredega, et ei saa ühel või teisel päeval magada v üleval olla millal iganes vaja.
Kuid eks kõik oleneb pakkumise üldisest sisust ja inimestest-meeldivast asukohast mida pakutakse, nii eelkõige peaks olema, et mulle kasulik ja sellele ka kes pakub, kasvi ses mottes, et keegi kohta sooja ja puhtana hoiab
oleneb farmist kuid üldiselt selleks pole päris aega ega filsooofilist huvi talitada loomi keda siis tapma hakatakse, mis moodi ma neile loomadele silma peaks vaatama..
Eelkõige aga ei saa lubada, et enda suvalist unegraafikut rikkuma hakkaks muredega, et ei saa ühel või teisel päeval magada v üleval olla millal iganes vaja.
Kuid eks kõik oleneb pakkumise üldisest sisust ja inimestest-meeldivast asukohast mida pakutakse, nii eelkõige peaks olema, et mulle kasulik ja sellele ka kes pakub, kasvi ses mottes, et keegi kohta sooja ja puhtana hoiab
9 January 2018 08:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kohtlajärve-sillamäe kandis muidu saab kahe inimesega kahe-kolme tolaisi tubasi küll rentida, kus koos kommunaalidega inimese kulu kokku tuleks sinnakanti. Kuid see piirkond, paneelmajad eelkõige, sobiks siis kui tõesti tõesti kahel inimesel kellel äda käes ja kes päris urkas eip sooviks olla ega sots majas päris võõrastega ilma igasuguse oma otsusteta
9 January 2018 08:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Praegu türi valla ühismaja pakuti, kuid ikkagi tegu väga väikse kambriga, majas kus palju juuakse (hoiatatud ka vallainimeste/tööliste poolt),
ja voodid väikses ruumis kõrvuti võõraga
kus ruumis enamasti pole oma tegu ega olemist, elamist,
kuigi loomulikult see paras taevakingitus, võrreldes kui jahe ja niru praegu õues olla oleks,
Kuid lihtsalt see illusioon, et sots kortereid ajutiselt jagatakse, päris paika eip pea,
ja voodid väikses ruumis kõrvuti võõraga
kus ruumis enamasti pole oma tegu ega olemist, elamist,
kuigi loomulikult see paras taevakingitus, võrreldes kui jahe ja niru praegu õues olla oleks,
Kuid lihtsalt see illusioon, et sots kortereid ajutiselt jagatakse, päris paika eip pea,
9 January 2018 08:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
saab ka kaasa aidata toimetamistega,
üldiselt kohta tarvis kus mõelda poolaastatki saaks
üldiselt kohta tarvis kus mõelda poolaastatki saaks
9 January 2018 08:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Yogendra Khadka, in Nepal You tuned in to Estonia politic fashion about anti-tie ?
9 January 2018 07:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siis hakkaks looma julgemalt ka muid me kodumaa päästmisplaane, sest vaat kui võrku mis üksteist abistab, või määratud suundi abistab eelkõige erimoodi..
9 January 2018 04:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui enda riigile iseseisva toidukanali ja struktuuri saame kus välistegurid sisehindu eriti mõjukalt ei mõjutaks neile eks normaalse toidunõudlusega,
siis juba hakkaks looma
siis juba hakkaks looma
9 January 2018 04:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Üüri makstsa on mul üldiselt ikka ideoloogia ja ka usu vastane peaaegu et.. kui aga mingi muu kulde katteks on normaalne, toidust muu reaalkuludeni... ja väiek tipp... jootrahagi abistajatele toimetajatele samaarve sisse,
aga kogu suur mõttes, rentimine ei ole ka tarkade ajude suureesmärk ega ka mitte selliste ajude arenemise suunas kasulik tegevus,
juba see, et regulaarselt mingi võõras arve sulle sisse tuleb, kellegi teise pudiapadi tegevus, on flowd ja aegruumi rikkuv vahest, kuigi ka päris mäsus peab utma ennast tuunida kurssi via...
...kuid võiks ju kohe lhtsamas kohas olla, et saaks parmeini suuremat luua enamusele kergemini
aga kogu suur mõttes, rentimine ei ole ka tarkade ajude suureesmärk ega ka mitte selliste ajude arenemise suunas kasulik tegevus,
juba see, et regulaarselt mingi võõras arve sulle sisse tuleb, kellegi teise pudiapadi tegevus, on flowd ja aegruumi rikkuv vahest, kuigi ka päris mäsus peab utma ennast tuunida kurssi via...
...kuid võiks ju kohe lhtsamas kohas olla, et saaks parmeini suuremat luua enamusele kergemini
9 January 2018 04:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Selliseid reklaame tehaks eka positiivse hypnoosi ja meeleolu loomist, reklaamipinda kasutades, selleks, et mainituid isikuid parem aja parema kaitsleoori siise luua, (sonast loomine)
ja see osa selles tühiskonnaarvamuse jainstitutsioonide elushodmine mis toodavad, nagu sober oliver ütleks:; kust, kust toodavad,
midagi mis on juba oma eesmärgi täitnud ja on enamuses kasutuses looduses, praeguseaja inimstel kui kasutu jääkprodukt mis lausa ebahea kui hoolikalt minema seda enda juurest ei juhi
Kuid ma ise nii ei ütleks.. see ponev lihtsalt ka, ka see, et endiselt saab tehtud, kuid kudias reaalselt..
ja see osa selles tühiskonnaarvamuse jainstitutsioonide elushodmine mis toodavad, nagu sober oliver ütleks:; kust, kust toodavad,
midagi mis on juba oma eesmärgi täitnud ja on enamuses kasutuses looduses, praeguseaja inimstel kui kasutu jääkprodukt mis lausa ebahea kui hoolikalt minema seda enda juurest ei juhi
Kuid ma ise nii ei ütleks.. see ponev lihtsalt ka, ka see, et endiselt saab tehtud, kuid kudias reaalselt..
9 January 2018 04:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kanal2 st,
milal spordi muid kügi, filosoofilisi ka räägitakse ja numbreid jagatakse selle sisust ja kasust ja moodustest mis modi lubatkase seda rakendada ja milleks seda vägivaldsusest kuni sadistusteerimiseni viivat ideloogiat legaalsena elus, nagu võistlus lihtsal võidunimel oleks psyhiaatriliselt mositlik tegevus pikas plaanis järjepidevalt, ringiratast lausa vhest, yksteise järgi, mitendat polve..
milal spordi muid kügi, filosoofilisi ka räägitakse ja numbreid jagatakse selle sisust ja kasust ja moodustest mis modi lubatkase seda rakendada ja milleks seda vägivaldsusest kuni sadistusteerimiseni viivat ideloogiat legaalsena elus, nagu võistlus lihtsal võidunimel oleks psyhiaatriliselt mositlik tegevus pikas plaanis järjepidevalt, ringiratast lausa vhest, yksteise järgi, mitendat polve..
9 January 2018 04:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
selles osas, et see ebaplaan mis luhatud jääbki tedmatuks vahest liialtuusrele osale, kellele algse ebaplaani koostajad ei pannud plaanigi, et nad seda lähitulevikus mõistaksid mida väliskülalised plaanivad teha ja kuidas hakkama saada, kuida sigale rahvale päised pähe panna, ilma suurema peksmiseta lopuks
9 January 2018 04:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui liiga head annad siis inimeneennast inimesena tundma hakkab
ja see pole struktuuride kes rahavast tööle sundida soovib, eeliseesmärk, et eestlased ennast hästi tunneksid, nii ajalooliselt kui sisemuselt ja tunnetes
ja see pole struktuuride kes rahavast tööle sundida soovib, eeliseesmärk, et eestlased ennast hästi tunneksid, nii ajalooliselt kui sisemuselt ja tunnetes
9 January 2018 03:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(et riigis kord, et kui muud üle ei jää, inimene ellu jääb ja ellusuhtumisega, siis hädapärast anda midagi hästi hädapäeast,..)
9 January 2018 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
st kuludeks, kuni 70
elades rahatut elu, pole motekas eriti rohkem lubada kui pool sellest mis niisama antakse, selleks, et elus olen ja muud üle ei jää
elades rahatut elu, pole motekas eriti rohkem lubada kui pool sellest mis niisama antakse, selleks, et elus olen ja muud üle ei jää
9 January 2018 03:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid ene ei tea, mis on ja kuidas aidata saab olukord mind, kui pole vastuvõtnud mis antakse
(alles siis saab olukorras võimalust näha kui olukorrale oled võimaluse andud hästi ette lootes ja suts heapäraselt kohanudes, maakuulamiseks)
(alles siis saab olukorras võimalust näha kui olukorrale oled võimaluse andud hästi ette lootes ja suts heapäraselt kohanudes, maakuulamiseks)
9 January 2018 03:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see kus beebilousta laul austaks ja mees kutsu syles vana vaatab seda meelelahutust milleasemel talle telekat pakutakse
9 January 2018 03:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei nu kujuta ise ette, kui on nagu nteks sama olukord mis Paide majas mis otseselt küll ajutiselt päris hea, ja paar kolm päeva ajutiselt kannataks ka võõraga koos elada, hosteli läbihüppe mõttes, aga nagu juba mõtetes reaalselt võtta kohta (kui just väga pühalik inimene ple) nagu oma kodu, et reaalset ainukes ajutist kodu ja siis selles teine inime võõras sees.. siis mis pakkuine se saab olla, kas see olukord kus iniene saab edasiarengut mõelda või
9 January 2018 03:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(tulevast ilmateavet vaadates)
9 January 2018 03:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
poleks eda valinud, siis oleks päris jahe reaalsus
9 January 2018 03:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid enamus rasked kohad on ikka mulle sobivad, sest nii mitut asja mid avaja teha naguinii siin ilmas, ja mis infot koguda, ja siis kasutan seda aega selleks olukorras ja olukorraks millesse mind suunatakse ja millest parima saan valida
9 January 2018 03:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mis moodi valitsus arva, inimene peaks saama endale keskenduda ja oma lähedastele pannes sotsaal prjektina võõrastena kokkuliites suvalisi.
Mote peaks ju olema testida tegelt esmasena, kas inimene ehk vajab reaalset olukorda olukorra parandamiseks,
kuid kui pead väikses ruumis võõrale meelsusele ei tea millega miks arvestama hakkama.. siis mis sellest saab välja tulla, et inimene saaks raulikult elada, magada puhata nagu vaja
muidugi, reaalsuses need asjad palju helgemad, sellest mis võiks veel olla,
kuid ikkagi, täiesti saab selle sotsiaalolukorra kergesti parandada ja paremaks teha,
kui oigeid instruktsioone järida, nende poolt, kes rakendavad käske
Mote peaks ju olema testida tegelt esmasena, kas inimene ehk vajab reaalset olukorda olukorra parandamiseks,
kuid kui pead väikses ruumis võõrale meelsusele ei tea millega miks arvestama hakkama.. siis mis sellest saab välja tulla, et inimene saaks raulikult elada, magada puhata nagu vaja
muidugi, reaalsuses need asjad palju helgemad, sellest mis võiks veel olla,
kuid ikkagi, täiesti saab selle sotsiaalolukorra kergesti parandada ja paremaks teha,
kui oigeid instruktsioone järida, nende poolt, kes rakendavad käske
9 January 2018 03:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja palju jooiaid iniemsi pidi ka olema, mis siis saab kui toanaaber suitsetaja ja tuleb suitsu lohnaga tuppa või häirib mu peale tegemist ?
9 January 2018 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Veel pole kiiret ka, sest türile üks pakkumine juba tuli, aga veider, et peab ruumi jagama, väikest, teiseinimesega üheinimeselgei väikse ruumi.
Ebanormaalsust riigis tunda, kui see on parim mida nii suur võimas uus vald kui Türi pakkuda suudab, sai ju suuremaks ja võimsamaks?
Ebanormaalsust riigis tunda, kui see on parim mida nii suur võimas uus vald kui Türi pakkuda suudab, sai ju suuremaks ja võimsamaks?
9 January 2018 03:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sotsabirahast jutt
ise suur sotsalismuse vastane siin :D
Kuid parempoolsust kinnitab reeglit, et me targalt käitume, et ellujääda ja tagasihoidlikult piirdume sellega millega vaja selleks milleks vaja, et nõutud eesmärk eriolukrdades edukalt sihile toimetada ligemale,
peaasi, et keskenduda saaks sellele, jätkusuutlikult, mis, millega tegelema pidid,... kui katkestad sis kus sa tead millest uuesti pihta hakkad
ise suur sotsalismuse vastane siin :D
Kuid parempoolsust kinnitab reeglit, et me targalt käitume, et ellujääda ja tagasihoidlikult piirdume sellega millega vaja selleks milleks vaja, et nõutud eesmärk eriolukrdades edukalt sihile toimetada ligemale,
peaasi, et keskenduda saaks sellele, jätkusuutlikult, mis, millega tegelema pidid,... kui katkestad sis kus sa tead millest uuesti pihta hakkad
9 January 2018 03:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see on ainuke uus garanteeritud raha mille sain peale pikka pingutust, 7 aaastalt, riigi endale palka maksma panna, topelt samapalju,
pool jätaks enda isiklikeks kommunaalideks ja igaksjuhuks.
et saaksin rahuliku keskonna kus saan keskenduda kuid-aastaid mõtlemisele kuidas valmisluua mida vaja, Tehes seda mida SELLEKS tööülesandeks vaja mida Ma täitmas olen,
vahest aga arusaamatud tööandjad hakkavad arvama, et nende ülesanded olulisemad mõnes olukorras kui töö on sellline mida võiks ikka enamus 30 aastastest teha võimete poolest, milleks siis mina?
pool jätaks enda isiklikeks kommunaalideks ja igaksjuhuks.
et saaksin rahuliku keskonna kus saan keskenduda kuid-aastaid mõtlemisele kuidas valmisluua mida vaja, Tehes seda mida SELLEKS tööülesandeks vaja mida Ma täitmas olen,
vahest aga arusaamatud tööandjad hakkavad arvama, et nende ülesanded olulisemad mõnes olukorras kui töö on sellline mida võiks ikka enamus 30 aastastest teha võimete poolest, milleks siis mina?
9 January 2018 03:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just you must know mostly what you want and how to hire professionals to keep changes with whatever cost in understandings
(some other wisdom books say; "people can do whatever they want but not want whatever they want, (so the "wants" are controlled))
(some other wisdom books say; "people can do whatever they want but not want whatever they want, (so the "wants" are controlled))
9 January 2018 02:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but mostly just the understandings "what is normal" and "what is unfortunate"
its not much you need to toy massevly
its not much you need to toy massevly
9 January 2018 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this means, highest level control most of the food, information about food, education, and great deal of media channels on control, but others are nearly all controlled by culture norms regulator controlling eg. the understandings inside languages and cultures about "what is norm and normal"...
9 January 2018 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
järgmine tarkpea räägib otsa "ei ole homset ega praegust"
"on siin ja praegu"
...
mis hea konditsioon ajupesuks
"on siin ja praegu"
...
mis hea konditsioon ajupesuks
9 January 2018 02:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
for example can someone who is making war against some Holy Lands and people, same time, is elementary that they participate in efforts to keep world empathy levels manipulative while will try agreed strategy's against them long or short term, or combinations of low level efforts, including keeping off the world global news picture, or is there equal amount of country's that are mentioned in methods way that feel important equally in their point of view, like when some shaman respected one or known village good persons community agrees that something was note worthy, some story, for a world, then they should also have from these 360+ lands to have some % of their news, their way.. some day.
9 January 2018 02:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
important not to confuse with ameeRiCans, who's emotions and empathy level with understanding how is allowed to be feel and what is actual capability of their power and how it can be work when not controlled by pentagram
9 January 2018 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey, say korda õnneks, vist
ses osas, et
päris katastroofiiselt veel ei läinud
ses osas, et
päris katastroofiiselt veel ei läinud
9 January 2018 02:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Õnneks Eestisse jõudsin uuesti.. türini isegi veab välja
8 January 2018 09:32
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Klemet's comment.
Group: Kristlased
eks Laigna ka meelega räägib, Nende juttu, et tutvustada, mis laine peale tuleb..7 January 2018 15:19
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Klemet's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Nu Laigna sõnul tegid seda JUMALAD, mitmuses,
sõna alg orginaal tähendusest lähtudes (räägin lihtsalt mis ta räägib..) ja, et Maailma suurima usuvoolu tipp arhiivides, pidid selged tõendid olema, et vorbiti ja tehti sedasi, et oleks head tööloomad, kuid mitte lopuni arukad õiget tahet tahtma,
et siis patustena oleksid kontrolitavad.
Eks kõik need iidesed arusaamad siin kuidagi peab saama piibli vahel selle asja selgitada selgeks usun,
kuid seda peame hooksalt tegema, enne seda kui ebausklikud oma varjandi globaalseks teevad7 January 2018 15:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
LITHUANIA: PATRIARCH OF RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH AT BLESSING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8IH0BJjCvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8IH0BJjCvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8IH0BJjCvg
7 January 2018 13:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid Kaheksas muidu ka oluline päev ja võimalus taevast tuli jälle ja saab teele asuda!
7 January 2018 12:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
/kohaolemise pool - vaadata filmina, algusest kaasamõtlema hakata.. settingus kus ortodox algust eip teaks, vb seda algustki poleks, et kuhu siis motted kuulmaise alguses ja lopuks jõuaks/
Kunagi siia veel oiged asjakohased pildid ja tekstid juurde tulevad, algul sai efetid valmis ja paar head nippi.. aga siis motlesin et jällegi.. eip hakka poolikut jagama, vaid mustandi jupid ainult mille aluspõhja ümber tuleb midagi kus algus /see vahejupp/ ja siis lopp.
Kunagi siia veel oiged asjakohased pildid ja tekstid juurde tulevad, algul sai efetid valmis ja paar head nippi.. aga siis motlesin et jällegi.. eip hakka poolikut jagama, vaid mustandi jupid ainult mille aluspõhja ümber tuleb midagi kus algus /see vahejupp/ ja siis lopp.
7 January 2018 10:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ahjaa:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Magi#Names
The biblical Magi ( singular: magus; Greek: μάγοι, magoi), also referred to as the (Three) Wise Men or (Three) Kings, were, in the Gospel of Matthew and Christian tradition, a group of distinguished foreigners who visited Jesus after his birth
Sugram ogiem :p
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Magi#Names
The biblical Magi ( singular: magus; Greek: μάγοι, magoi), also referred to as the (Three) Wise Men or (Three) Kings, were, in the Gospel of Matthew and Christian tradition, a group of distinguished foreigners who visited Jesus after his birth
Sugram ogiem :p
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Magi#Names
6 January 2018 23:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ei saa ju nii keeruline ka olla, osad asjadki selgeks rääkida, või hoiame veel tuhat aastat vastasarvamusi süvenemas
Erinevaid muresi mainitud.. kuid põhiline ju kohe otse alguses peaks ütlema, et ühed arvavad Jeesus Pühavaimu ja Jumalaga võrdne olema ja teised loogiliselt järeldavad, et see on võimatu, kuna to ju tuli eelmisest kahest...
(Püha vaim on naissoost..)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Damascus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East%E2%80%93West_Schism#Trinity
http://www.dummies.com/religion/christianity/catholicism/the-split-that-created-roman-catholics-and-eastern-orthodox-catholics/
Erinevaid muresi mainitud.. kuid põhiline ju kohe otse alguses peaks ütlema, et ühed arvavad Jeesus Pühavaimu ja Jumalaga võrdne olema ja teised loogiliselt järeldavad, et see on võimatu, kuna to ju tuli eelmisest kahest...
(Püha vaim on naissoost..)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Damascus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East%E2%80%93West_Schism#Trinity
http://www.dummies.com/religion/christianity/catholicism/the-split-that-created-roman-catholics-and-eastern-orthodox-catholics/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Damascus
6 January 2018 23:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Paramony:
The Eve of the Feast is called Paramony (Greek: παραμονή, Slavonic: navechérie). Paramony is observed as a strict fast day, on which those faithful who are physically able, refrain from food until the first star is observed in the evening, when a meal with wine and oil may be taken. On this day the Royal Hours are celebrated, thus tying together the feasts of Nativity and Good Friday. The Royal Hours are followed by the Divine Liturgy of St. Basil which combines Vespers with the Divine Liturgy. During the Vespers, fifteen Old Testament lections which foreshadow the Baptism of Christ are read, and special antiphons are chanted. If the Feast of the Theophany falls on a Sunday or Monday, the Royal Hours are chanted on the previous Friday, and on the Paramony the Vesperal Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom is celebrated and the fasting is lessened to some degree.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procession#Eastern_Orthodox
"A procession is an organized body of people walking in a formal or ceremonial manner."
"Typically the procession commences with the phanarion (a lantern) followed by the cross,[note 1] flanked by processional banners and icons, then choir and clergy, the deacons with censers, the priests with icons, and then the faithful. Hymns particular to the event are sung. Typically the outside of the church is circled thrice; however, some processions proceed to a designated place where a ceremony, e.g., a baptism or burial, is performed."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octave_(liturgy)#Modern_history
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Among the Eastern Orthodox and Byzantine Rite Eastern Catholic Churches, what in the West would be called an Octave is referred to as an Afterfeast. The celebration of the Great Feasts of the church year are extended for a number days, depending upon the particular Feast. Each day of an Afterfeast will have particular hymns assigned to it, continuing the theme of the Feast being celebrated.
Most of these Great Feasts also have a day or more of preparation called a Forefeast (those Feasts that are on the moveable Paschal Cycle do not have Forefeasts). Forefeasts and Afterfeasts will affect the structure of the services during the Canonical Hours.
The last day of an Afterfeast is called the Apodosis (lit. "giving-back") of the Feast. On the Apodosis, most of the hymns that were chanted on the first day of the Feast are repeated. On the Apodosis of Feasts of the Theotokos, the Epistle and Gospel of the Feast are repeated again at the Divine Liturgy.
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"Octave" has two senses in Christian liturgical usage. In the first sense, it is the eighth day after a feast, reckoning inclusively, and so always falls on the same day of the week as the feast itself. The word is derived from Latin octava (eighth), with dies (day) understood. In the second sense, the term is applied to the whole period of these eight days, during which certain major feasts came to be observed.
Octaves, not being successive, are quite distinct from eight-day weeks and simply refer to the return of the same day of a seven-day week in the inclusive counting system used in Latin (just as the ninth day was a return to the same day of a nundinal cycle, the eight-day week of the pre-Christian Roman calendar).
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The "eighth day" or octava dies was associated with the weekly Christian celebration of the resurrection of Christ every "eighth day", which became a name for Sunday.
As circumcision was performed on the "eighth day" after birth, the number 8 became associated also with baptism,[4] and baptismal fonts have from an early date often been octagonal.
The practice of octaves was first introduced under Constantine I, when the dedication festivities of the basilicas at Jerusalem and Tyre, Lebanon were observed for eight days. After these one-off occasions, annual liturgical feasts began to be dignified with an octave. The first such feasts were Easter, Pentecost, and, in the East, Epiphany.[1] This occurred in the fourth century and served as a period of time for the newly baptized to take a joyful retreat.
The Eve of the Feast is called Paramony (Greek: παραμονή, Slavonic: navechérie). Paramony is observed as a strict fast day, on which those faithful who are physically able, refrain from food until the first star is observed in the evening, when a meal with wine and oil may be taken. On this day the Royal Hours are celebrated, thus tying together the feasts of Nativity and Good Friday. The Royal Hours are followed by the Divine Liturgy of St. Basil which combines Vespers with the Divine Liturgy. During the Vespers, fifteen Old Testament lections which foreshadow the Baptism of Christ are read, and special antiphons are chanted. If the Feast of the Theophany falls on a Sunday or Monday, the Royal Hours are chanted on the previous Friday, and on the Paramony the Vesperal Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom is celebrated and the fasting is lessened to some degree.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procession#Eastern_Orthodox
"A procession is an organized body of people walking in a formal or ceremonial manner."
"Typically the procession commences with the phanarion (a lantern) followed by the cross,[note 1] flanked by processional banners and icons, then choir and clergy, the deacons with censers, the priests with icons, and then the faithful. Hymns particular to the event are sung. Typically the outside of the church is circled thrice; however, some processions proceed to a designated place where a ceremony, e.g., a baptism or burial, is performed."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octave_(liturgy)#Modern_history
:
Among the Eastern Orthodox and Byzantine Rite Eastern Catholic Churches, what in the West would be called an Octave is referred to as an Afterfeast. The celebration of the Great Feasts of the church year are extended for a number days, depending upon the particular Feast. Each day of an Afterfeast will have particular hymns assigned to it, continuing the theme of the Feast being celebrated.
Most of these Great Feasts also have a day or more of preparation called a Forefeast (those Feasts that are on the moveable Paschal Cycle do not have Forefeasts). Forefeasts and Afterfeasts will affect the structure of the services during the Canonical Hours.
The last day of an Afterfeast is called the Apodosis (lit. "giving-back") of the Feast. On the Apodosis, most of the hymns that were chanted on the first day of the Feast are repeated. On the Apodosis of Feasts of the Theotokos, the Epistle and Gospel of the Feast are repeated again at the Divine Liturgy.
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"Octave" has two senses in Christian liturgical usage. In the first sense, it is the eighth day after a feast, reckoning inclusively, and so always falls on the same day of the week as the feast itself. The word is derived from Latin octava (eighth), with dies (day) understood. In the second sense, the term is applied to the whole period of these eight days, during which certain major feasts came to be observed.
Octaves, not being successive, are quite distinct from eight-day weeks and simply refer to the return of the same day of a seven-day week in the inclusive counting system used in Latin (just as the ninth day was a return to the same day of a nundinal cycle, the eight-day week of the pre-Christian Roman calendar).
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The "eighth day" or octava dies was associated with the weekly Christian celebration of the resurrection of Christ every "eighth day", which became a name for Sunday.
As circumcision was performed on the "eighth day" after birth, the number 8 became associated also with baptism,[4] and baptismal fonts have from an early date often been octagonal.
The practice of octaves was first introduced under Constantine I, when the dedication festivities of the basilicas at Jerusalem and Tyre, Lebanon were observed for eight days. After these one-off occasions, annual liturgical feasts began to be dignified with an octave. The first such feasts were Easter, Pentecost, and, in the East, Epiphany.[1] This occurred in the fourth century and served as a period of time for the newly baptized to take a joyful retreat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procession#Eastern_Orthodox
6 January 2018 23:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Blessing of Waters:
Blessing of Waters: The Orthodox Churches perform the Great Blessing of Waters on Theophany.
Formula:
formula for blessing the water is as follows:
"I exorcise thee, creature of water, in the name of God the Father almighty, in the name of Jesus Christ, his Son, our Lord, and in the power of the Holy Spirit, that you may put to flight all the power of the enemy, and that enemy and to root out and, along with his fallen angels through the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, who shall come to judge the living and the dead and the world by fire. O God, who for the salvation of the human race has built Thy greatest mysteries in the substance, in your kindness hear our prayers, and with the element to this, for many kinds of purifications of his well-prepared, the power of Thy blessing, Serve it; the creation of Thy mysteries, serving as an agent of divine grace; is sprinkled with this water in their houses or in the buildings of the faithful, that whatever might be free from all uncleanness, he is freed from every harm. It is not no pestilent spirit, no taint of corruption; let all the wiles of the lurking enemy; or to provide for the safety and peace of the inhabitants of that which is, and if there be any, by the sprinkling of this water, so that health, through the invocation of Thy holy name, made secure against all attacks. Through the end."
The blessing is normally done twice: once on the Eve of the Feast—usually at a Baptismal font inside the church—and then again on the day of the feast, outdoors at a body of water. Following the Divine Liturgy, the clergy and people go in a Crucession (procession with the cross) to the nearest body of water, be it a beach, harbor, quay, river, lake, swimming pool, water depot, etc. (ideally, it should be a body of "living water"). At the end of the ceremony the priest will bless the waters. In the Greek practice, he does this by casting a cross into the water. If swimming is feasible on the spot, any number of volunteers may try to recover the cross. The person who gets the cross first swims back and returns it to the priest, who then delivers a special blessing to the swimmer and their household. Certain such ceremonies have achieved particular prominence, such as the one held annually at Tarpon Springs, Florida. In Russia, where the winters are severe, a hole will be cut into the ice so that the waters may be blessed. In such conditions, the cross is not cast into the water, but is held securely by the priest and dipped three times into the water.
Greek Orthodox bishop at the Great Blessing of Waters on Theophany, releasing the cross off the Glenelg Jetty, South Australia, for one of the swimmers below to retrieve.
The water that is blessed on this day is sometimes known as "Theophany Water", though usually just "holy water", and is taken home by the faithful, and used with prayer as a blessing. People will not only bless themselves and their homes by sprinkling with holy water, but will also drink it. The Orthodox Church teaches that holy water differs from regular water in that with holy water, the very nature of the water is changed and becomes incorrupt, a miracle attested to as early as St. John Chrysostom
"On the Feast of Theophany, that is the Day of the Lord's Baptism, every year a great miracle is performed. The Holy Spirit, coming down upon the water, changes its natural properties. It becomes incorrupt, that is, it doe s not spoil, remains transparent and fresh for many years, receives the grace to heal illnesses, to drive away demons and every evil power, to preserve people and their dwellings from every danger, to sanctify various objects whether for church or home use. Therefore, Orthodox Christians with reverence drink Holy Water--a great Agiasma (holy thing), as the Greeks call it. " - From the writings of St. John Maximovitch
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Catholic saints have written about the power of holy water as a force that repels evil. Saint Teresa of Avila, a Doctor of the Church who reported visions of Jesus and Mary, was a strong believer in the power of holy water and wrote that she used it with success to repel evil and temptations. She wrote:
"I know by frequent experience that there is nothing which puts the devils to flight like Holy water."
In Holy Water and Its Significance for Catholics Henry Theiler states that in addition to being a strong force in repelling evil, holy water has the twofold benefit of providing grace for both body and soul.
The new Rituale Romanum excludes the exorcism prayer on the water. Exorcized salt used to be added to the holy Water as well. Priests can now use the older form if they wish according to Summorum Pontificum, an apostolic letter by Pope Benedict XVI
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Among the Eastern Orthodox and the Byzantine Rite Catholics holy water is used frequently in rites of blessing and exorcism, and the water for baptism is always sanctified with a special blessing.
There are two rites for blessing holy water: the "Great Blessing of Waters" which is held on the Feast of Theophany and at baptisms, and the "Lesser Blessing of Waters" which is conducted according to need and local custom during the rest of the year, certain feast days calling for the Lesser Blessing of Waters as part of their liturgical observance. Both forms are based upon the Rite of Baptism. After the blessing of holy water the faithful are sprinkled with it and each drinks some of it.
Holy water is drunk by the faithful after it is blessed and it is a common custom for the pious to drink holy water every morning. In the monasteries of Mount Athos holy water is always drunk in conjunction with consuming antidoron. Eastern Orthodox do not typically bless themselves with holy water upon entering a church as Western Catholics do, but a quantity of holy water is often kept in a font placed in the narthex (entrance) of the church, available for anyone who would like to partake of it or to take some of it home.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_water#Other_religions
Blessing of Waters: The Orthodox Churches perform the Great Blessing of Waters on Theophany.
Formula:
formula for blessing the water is as follows:
"I exorcise thee, creature of water, in the name of God the Father almighty, in the name of Jesus Christ, his Son, our Lord, and in the power of the Holy Spirit, that you may put to flight all the power of the enemy, and that enemy and to root out and, along with his fallen angels through the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, who shall come to judge the living and the dead and the world by fire. O God, who for the salvation of the human race has built Thy greatest mysteries in the substance, in your kindness hear our prayers, and with the element to this, for many kinds of purifications of his well-prepared, the power of Thy blessing, Serve it; the creation of Thy mysteries, serving as an agent of divine grace; is sprinkled with this water in their houses or in the buildings of the faithful, that whatever might be free from all uncleanness, he is freed from every harm. It is not no pestilent spirit, no taint of corruption; let all the wiles of the lurking enemy; or to provide for the safety and peace of the inhabitants of that which is, and if there be any, by the sprinkling of this water, so that health, through the invocation of Thy holy name, made secure against all attacks. Through the end."
The blessing is normally done twice: once on the Eve of the Feast—usually at a Baptismal font inside the church—and then again on the day of the feast, outdoors at a body of water. Following the Divine Liturgy, the clergy and people go in a Crucession (procession with the cross) to the nearest body of water, be it a beach, harbor, quay, river, lake, swimming pool, water depot, etc. (ideally, it should be a body of "living water"). At the end of the ceremony the priest will bless the waters. In the Greek practice, he does this by casting a cross into the water. If swimming is feasible on the spot, any number of volunteers may try to recover the cross. The person who gets the cross first swims back and returns it to the priest, who then delivers a special blessing to the swimmer and their household. Certain such ceremonies have achieved particular prominence, such as the one held annually at Tarpon Springs, Florida. In Russia, where the winters are severe, a hole will be cut into the ice so that the waters may be blessed. In such conditions, the cross is not cast into the water, but is held securely by the priest and dipped three times into the water.
Greek Orthodox bishop at the Great Blessing of Waters on Theophany, releasing the cross off the Glenelg Jetty, South Australia, for one of the swimmers below to retrieve.
The water that is blessed on this day is sometimes known as "Theophany Water", though usually just "holy water", and is taken home by the faithful, and used with prayer as a blessing. People will not only bless themselves and their homes by sprinkling with holy water, but will also drink it. The Orthodox Church teaches that holy water differs from regular water in that with holy water, the very nature of the water is changed and becomes incorrupt, a miracle attested to as early as St. John Chrysostom
"On the Feast of Theophany, that is the Day of the Lord's Baptism, every year a great miracle is performed. The Holy Spirit, coming down upon the water, changes its natural properties. It becomes incorrupt, that is, it doe s not spoil, remains transparent and fresh for many years, receives the grace to heal illnesses, to drive away demons and every evil power, to preserve people and their dwellings from every danger, to sanctify various objects whether for church or home use. Therefore, Orthodox Christians with reverence drink Holy Water--a great Agiasma (holy thing), as the Greeks call it. " - From the writings of St. John Maximovitch
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Catholic saints have written about the power of holy water as a force that repels evil. Saint Teresa of Avila, a Doctor of the Church who reported visions of Jesus and Mary, was a strong believer in the power of holy water and wrote that she used it with success to repel evil and temptations. She wrote:
"I know by frequent experience that there is nothing which puts the devils to flight like Holy water."
In Holy Water and Its Significance for Catholics Henry Theiler states that in addition to being a strong force in repelling evil, holy water has the twofold benefit of providing grace for both body and soul.
The new Rituale Romanum excludes the exorcism prayer on the water. Exorcized salt used to be added to the holy Water as well. Priests can now use the older form if they wish according to Summorum Pontificum, an apostolic letter by Pope Benedict XVI
--
Among the Eastern Orthodox and the Byzantine Rite Catholics holy water is used frequently in rites of blessing and exorcism, and the water for baptism is always sanctified with a special blessing.
There are two rites for blessing holy water: the "Great Blessing of Waters" which is held on the Feast of Theophany and at baptisms, and the "Lesser Blessing of Waters" which is conducted according to need and local custom during the rest of the year, certain feast days calling for the Lesser Blessing of Waters as part of their liturgical observance. Both forms are based upon the Rite of Baptism. After the blessing of holy water the faithful are sprinkled with it and each drinks some of it.
Holy water is drunk by the faithful after it is blessed and it is a common custom for the pious to drink holy water every morning. In the monasteries of Mount Athos holy water is always drunk in conjunction with consuming antidoron. Eastern Orthodox do not typically bless themselves with holy water upon entering a church as Western Catholics do, but a quantity of holy water is often kept in a font placed in the narthex (entrance) of the church, available for anyone who would like to partake of it or to take some of it home.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_water#Other_religions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_water#Other_religions
6 January 2018 23:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
An Afterfeast is a period of celebration attached to one of the Great Feasts celebrated by the Orthodox Christian and Eastern Catholic Churches (somewhat analogous to what in the West would be called an Octave).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterfeast
Calendar of saints and : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_7_(Eastern_Orthodox_liturgics)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphany_(holiday)#Eastern_Orthodox_Christian_churches
The name of the feast as celebrated in the Orthodox churches may be rendered in English as the Theophany, as closer in form to the Greek Θεοφάνεια ("God shining forth" or "divine manifestation"). Here it is one of the Great Feasts of the liturgical year, being third in rank, behind only Paskha (Easter) and Pentecost in importance. It is celebrated on January 6 of the calendar that a particular Church uses.
In parts of the Eastern Church, January 6 continued for some time as a composite feast that included the Nativity of Jesus: though Constantinople adopted December 25 to commemorate Jesus' birth in the fourth century, in other parts the Nativity of Jesus continued to be celebrated on January 6, a date later devoted exclusively to commemorating his Baptism.
Today in Eastern Orthodox churches, the emphasis at this feast is on the shining forth and revelation of Jesus Christ as the Messiah and Second Person of the Trinity at the time of his baptism. It is also celebrated because, according to tradition, the baptism of Jesus in the Jordan River by St. John the Baptist marked one of only two occasions when all three Persons of the Trinity manifested themselves simultaneously to humanity: God the Father by speaking through the clouds, God the Son being baptized in the river, and God the Holy Spirit in the shape of a dove descending from heaven (the other occasion was the Transfiguration on Mount Tabor). Thus the holy day is considered to be a Trinitarian feast.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphany_(holiday)
Epiphany, also Theophany, or Three Kings' Day, is a Christian feast day that celebrates the revelation of God incarnate as Jesus Christ. In Western Christianity, the feast commemorates principally (but not solely) the visit of the Magi to the Christ child, and thus Jesus' physical manifestation to the Gentiles. Moreover, the feast of the Epiphany, in some Western Christian denominations, also initiates the liturgical season of Epiphanytide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterfeast
Calendar of saints and : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_7_(Eastern_Orthodox_liturgics)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphany_(holiday)#Eastern_Orthodox_Christian_churches
The name of the feast as celebrated in the Orthodox churches may be rendered in English as the Theophany, as closer in form to the Greek Θεοφάνεια ("God shining forth" or "divine manifestation"). Here it is one of the Great Feasts of the liturgical year, being third in rank, behind only Paskha (Easter) and Pentecost in importance. It is celebrated on January 6 of the calendar that a particular Church uses.
In parts of the Eastern Church, January 6 continued for some time as a composite feast that included the Nativity of Jesus: though Constantinople adopted December 25 to commemorate Jesus' birth in the fourth century, in other parts the Nativity of Jesus continued to be celebrated on January 6, a date later devoted exclusively to commemorating his Baptism.
Today in Eastern Orthodox churches, the emphasis at this feast is on the shining forth and revelation of Jesus Christ as the Messiah and Second Person of the Trinity at the time of his baptism. It is also celebrated because, according to tradition, the baptism of Jesus in the Jordan River by St. John the Baptist marked one of only two occasions when all three Persons of the Trinity manifested themselves simultaneously to humanity: God the Father by speaking through the clouds, God the Son being baptized in the river, and God the Holy Spirit in the shape of a dove descending from heaven (the other occasion was the Transfiguration on Mount Tabor). Thus the holy day is considered to be a Trinitarian feast.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphany_(holiday)
Epiphany, also Theophany, or Three Kings' Day, is a Christian feast day that celebrates the revelation of God incarnate as Jesus Christ. In Western Christianity, the feast commemorates principally (but not solely) the visit of the Magi to the Christ child, and thus Jesus' physical manifestation to the Gentiles. Moreover, the feast of the Epiphany, in some Western Christian denominations, also initiates the liturgical season of Epiphanytide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterfeast
6 January 2018 23:30
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Klemet's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Kuid selgituseks, palun lisa ka need asjad, et millega Sa pole rahul,
Siis pilt selgem.
Ja kas selle AnnuNakide laborite kus inimesi vorbiti osas, oled ka arvamusel, et päriselt need paberid olemas ja tõendid Vatikani arhiivides kus ta pikalt toimetnaud on6 January 2018 23:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
gsome good news inn here as well: https://www.linkedin.com/company/497340/
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5 January 2018 19:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Saade ise tore ja vajalik muidugi
5 January 2018 19:29
Margus Meigo commented on Katrin Kirsipuu's post.
Muidu mõtlesin..kas pühamate kommetega inimest ei saaanud siis leida kes vastava tarkusega, et seda saadet ise teha,
Priimägi küll viisakas teles, kuid vaimsus... kas see nüüd saab tal päriselt see õige olla
Priimägi küll viisakas teles, kuid vaimsus... kas see nüüd saab tal päriselt see õige olla
5 January 2018 19:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Long time ago, in the pre 2010 times..
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213899200530891
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213899200530891
5 January 2018 19:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Imagine Facebook would introduce its own cryptocurrency. It could be called the Facebook Coin, or just FBC 👇🏽 #Facebook #FB #FacebookCoin #FBC #Cryptocurrency #Crypto #Technology #Tech #Future "
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5 January 2018 19:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid ma ikka arvan, et minusse on parem investeerida kui boitcoini : ))
(väga kaalutletud ütlus, arvestades, kogu seda tagatausta, mida esimesejärgu bitcoini hakerid ja sisering jagas, selle võimalusest ja mida saavad teha peale seda kui kõik on kaevandatud... .... kuni planeedi tagasiostmiseni.... ja vaat mis juhtub kui juhe välja tõmmatakse või raha olematuks kuulutatakse... ... vot, enne saame ikke vast vabaks! )
(väga kaalutletud ütlus, arvestades, kogu seda tagatausta, mida esimesejärgu bitcoini hakerid ja sisering jagas, selle võimalusest ja mida saavad teha peale seda kui kõik on kaevandatud... .... kuni planeedi tagasiostmiseni.... ja vaat mis juhtub kui juhe välja tõmmatakse või raha olematuks kuulutatakse... ... vot, enne saame ikke vast vabaks! )
5 January 2018 12:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see vana kallis kodutu kass.. kahju, et mul polnud olnud võimalusi teda edaspidi aidata ja ta elukulgemisest teada.. sest meeled kinni ja elu pole veel elukohta enda päris oma olnud.. ammu ammusestajast..
5 January 2018 04:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
tooaeg ma olin üksi haige, üle pika aja, ilma ravimiteta, põrandal, sest voodi ka viidi ära.. ja siis kass oli ainuke kes tuli ja soendas mind ja mu peavalu leevendas
5 January 2018 04:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
+ even more academic
by the Warburg Institute in 1958, this book is considered a landmark in Renaissance studies, for todays world, reverse engineering our mind.. but still, hard to imagine, how anyone would be able to accomplish that with out magic plants
yes, surely in Christian nature setting
" http://www.psupress.org/books/titles/0-271-02045-8.html
by the Warburg Institute in 1958, this book is considered a landmark in Renaissance studies, for todays world, reverse engineering our mind.. but still, hard to imagine, how anyone would be able to accomplish that with out magic plants
yes, surely in Christian nature setting
" http://www.psupress.org/books/titles/0-271-02045-8.html
http://www.psupress.org/books/titles/0-271-02045-8.html
5 January 2018 04:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
rahvafolklooris nii nimetati vanasti vähemasti
5 January 2018 03:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
vihje,
Teravpaljak= Tarkuseivi
Kärbseseen= Tee salajaste asjadeni
Kanep: vaesemehe Tarkusetaevas
Teravpaljak= Tarkuseivi
Kärbseseen= Tee salajaste asjadeni
Kanep: vaesemehe Tarkusetaevas
5 January 2018 03:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as he mentions:
"A true & faithful relation of what passed for many yeers between Dr. John Dee ... and some spirits : tending (had it succeeded) to a general alteration of most states and kingdomes in the world : his private conferences with Rodolphe Emperor of Germany, Stephen K. of Poland, and divers other princes about it : the particulars of his cause, as it was agitated in the Emperors court, by the Pope's intervention : his banishment and restoration in part : as also the letters of sundry great men and princes (some whereof were present at some of these conferences and apparitions of spirits) to the said D. Dee : out of the original copy, written with Dr. Dees own hand, kept in the library of Sir Tho. Cotton ... : with a preface confirming the reality (as to the point of spirits) of this relation, and shewing the several good uses that a sober Christian may make of all
by Dee, John, 1527-1608; Casaubon, Meric, 1599-1671; Kelly, Edward, 1555-1595
Publication date 1659
Topics Rudolf II, Holy Roman Emperor, 1552-1612, Stefan Batory, King of Poland, 1533-1586, Spiritualism, Parapsychology
Publisher London : Printed by D. Maxwell for T. Garthwait ...
https://archive.org/details/truefaithfulrela00deej
https://archive.org/download/truefaithfulrela00deej/truefaithfulrela00deej.pdf
"A true & faithful relation of what passed for many yeers between Dr. John Dee ... and some spirits : tending (had it succeeded) to a general alteration of most states and kingdomes in the world : his private conferences with Rodolphe Emperor of Germany, Stephen K. of Poland, and divers other princes about it : the particulars of his cause, as it was agitated in the Emperors court, by the Pope's intervention : his banishment and restoration in part : as also the letters of sundry great men and princes (some whereof were present at some of these conferences and apparitions of spirits) to the said D. Dee : out of the original copy, written with Dr. Dees own hand, kept in the library of Sir Tho. Cotton ... : with a preface confirming the reality (as to the point of spirits) of this relation, and shewing the several good uses that a sober Christian may make of all
by Dee, John, 1527-1608; Casaubon, Meric, 1599-1671; Kelly, Edward, 1555-1595
Publication date 1659
Topics Rudolf II, Holy Roman Emperor, 1552-1612, Stefan Batory, King of Poland, 1533-1586, Spiritualism, Parapsychology
Publisher London : Printed by D. Maxwell for T. Garthwait ...
https://archive.org/details/truefaithfulrela00deej
https://archive.org/download/truefaithfulrela00deej/truefaithfulrela00deej.pdf
https://archive.org/details/truefaithfulrela00deej
5 January 2018 03:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
the "Alchemy, Magic, & the Hermetic Tradition (Lecture)" is also he-arable
https://youtu.be/XQNpNDHJKnY?t=482
https://youtu.be/XQNpNDHJKnY?t=482
https://youtu.be/XQNpNDHJKnY?t=482
5 January 2018 02:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Srry brothers if that does something unexpected less then expected
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201782741666992&set=t.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201782741666992&set=t.1135161043&type=3&theater
5 January 2018 02:57
Margus Meigo replied to Sass Vask's comment.
Esputin siis seljuhul:p
4 January 2018 23:35
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Sellel temal peaks terve piltide seeria ja arstide tunnistused olema.. siis oleks vähemasti endal kergem seda keisi kaitsta, mitte, et siis teised nii kergesti rohkem uskuma hakkaksid,
Kuid sellise pildi peal, enamus kindlasti kohe blokeeriks
Kuid sellise pildi peal, enamus kindlasti kohe blokeeriks
4 January 2018 14:33
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Vot aga sain uue asja teada just, et inimestele on kõik lubatud, välja arvatud enda tahe..
või kuidas see lause oli, oot otsin varsti välja, aga mõte selles kandis..
et see thae, mida inimene tegelikulttahab, nullitakse, sest see ainuke ais mis kontrollitav läbi selle, et muud tahted saadetakse segama ja see tahe mida inimene tegelikult soovib hoitakse eemale ja eemal..
või kuidas see lause oli, oot otsin varsti välja, aga mõte selles kandis..
et see thae, mida inimene tegelikulttahab, nullitakse, sest see ainuke ais mis kontrollitav läbi selle, et muud tahted saadetakse segama ja see tahe mida inimene tegelikult soovib hoitakse eemale ja eemal..
4 January 2018 14:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(Y)
4 January 2018 14:27
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
:D :D :D :D :D
4 January 2018 14:27
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Eip ole kindel kas oleks ruumi, Nende mullivannid on päris ruumi mahukad
4 January 2018 14:27
Margus Meigo commented on Berit Masso's post.
Jumalasse, ikka jumalasse
4 January 2018 11:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Luulet jürkalt:
http://jyrilaulud.altervista.org/teine.htm
http://jyrilaulud.altervista.org/teine.htm
http://jyrilaulud.altervista.org/teine.htm
4 January 2018 11:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvu0e40Rh60&list=PLBAB453F21877DA8B&index=16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvu0e40Rh60&list=PLBAB453F21877DA8B&index=16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvu0e40Rh60&list=PLBAB453F21877DA8B&index=16
4 January 2018 11:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eesti Playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iea9jYkA8rc&list=PLBAB453F21877DA8B
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iea9jYkA8rc&list=PLBAB453F21877DA8B
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iea9jYkA8rc&list=PLBAB453F21877DA8B
4 January 2018 10:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Veel palju ilusat:
https://www.youtube.com/user/Triina77/videos
http://www.dailymotion.com/Triina
https://www.youtube.com/user/Triina77/videos
http://www.dailymotion.com/Triina
https://www.youtube.com/user/Triina77/videos
4 January 2018 10:12
Margus Meigo commented on Markus Timps's post.
Nii kahjuks tihti on
3 January 2018 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
Stay beautiful,
stay true, to countryman's style's as well!
stay true, to countryman's style's as well!
3 January 2018 19:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
3 January 2018 17:07
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Eenpalu's comment.
Group: Isamaa 2.0 - Isamaa sõprade klubi
TV 6's hea interviu selles osas oli täna hommikul,
kuidas võõrtankide ketikõlina saatel 90ndal on ka lauldud saadud ilma kartuseta, vabaduseplatsil
Kuid kes teravamalt eelmise aasta algusest järginud see märkas üldise ülevõtmise märke mida spetsalistid omaarust peita on proovinud suure täpsuse ja kergusega.
Ametite kaotamised, ERR kaadri nurka surumine ja vähetumine, ametite likvideerimine, reform.. ja eelkõige, et teleekraani sisu on läinud kergemeelseks.. eetris olijad lausa vannuvad avalikult eetris ja ei vaevu vabandamagi (viimane vandumine jäisiis kõrva kui nad heeliumi eetris nuusutasid)
Vihje ka praeguse ERR i juhiks "valituks" saadu Roosa.., kes ütles, et soovib reklaami tagasi panna ETV sse ja seda nagu isiklikku äri juhtima hakata , mitte nii, et igalühel oleks sõnaõigus kes tegelikus töös kaasa lööb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbzpCehUt_chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbzpCehUt_c
3 January 2018 16:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kõikidel kel Hing on sees..
Kõikidel kel hing on sees
on midagi ees
ja nii mõnelgi on veel
salasoovid - avalikud soovid
kõikidel kel hing on sees
on midagi käes
ja nii mõnelgi on veel
tugitoolid - pehmed tugitoolid
Ref.
Laske moosekant pisut pikutab
kui ükskord sügis on käes
siis suvest võib vaid unistada
muudkui poe voodi
maga edasi
on laule peidus meis veel
kuid laulmas on väljas
niigi sügistuuled
ööd ja päevad sügistuuled ööd ja päevad
ööd ja päevad sügistuuled ööd ja päevad
Mõnedele näib
et keegi on aina ees
et on istumas üks mees
tema toolil - pehmel tugitoolil
mõned jäävad välja
aga mõned on sees
on omadega sees sees
ja väljas - erinevad naljad
Ref.
Laske moosekant …
Kõikidel kel hing on sees
on midagi käes
ja nii mõnelgi on ees
sügistuuled - sünged sügistuuled
kõikidel kel hing on sees
on midagi ees
ja nii mõnelgi on veel
salasoovid - avalikud soovid
Ref.
Laske moosekant …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyhzd-M0W2s
Kõikidel kel hing on sees
on midagi ees
ja nii mõnelgi on veel
salasoovid - avalikud soovid
kõikidel kel hing on sees
on midagi käes
ja nii mõnelgi on veel
tugitoolid - pehmed tugitoolid
Ref.
Laske moosekant pisut pikutab
kui ükskord sügis on käes
siis suvest võib vaid unistada
muudkui poe voodi
maga edasi
on laule peidus meis veel
kuid laulmas on väljas
niigi sügistuuled
ööd ja päevad sügistuuled ööd ja päevad
ööd ja päevad sügistuuled ööd ja päevad
Mõnedele näib
et keegi on aina ees
et on istumas üks mees
tema toolil - pehmel tugitoolil
mõned jäävad välja
aga mõned on sees
on omadega sees sees
ja väljas - erinevad naljad
Ref.
Laske moosekant …
Kõikidel kel hing on sees
on midagi käes
ja nii mõnelgi on ees
sügistuuled - sünged sügistuuled
kõikidel kel hing on sees
on midagi ees
ja nii mõnelgi on veel
salasoovid - avalikud soovid
Ref.
Laske moosekant …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyhzd-M0W2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyhzd-M0W2s
3 January 2018 16:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Laululinned:
Ajab oma rida
iga õige mees
kui ka läheb ringi
sirge siht on ees
muutlikud on ajad
lõputud on teed
lähedal ja kaugel
mõistvad kaaslased
Ref.
Aastad kiirelt mööduvad
uued põlved sirguvad
kõige eest mis eile
täna maksma peab
palju neid kes kannatand
on oma elu ohverdand
lapsepõlvekodust pidanud lahkuma
Tules olgu rauad
mitte liiga kaua
õigel ajal meister
teeb valmis töö
sügaval on juured
juurte sees on jõud
arusaadav neile
kes siin on sündinud
Ref.
Aastad kiirelt mööduvad �
Palju neid kes kannatand
on oma elu ohverdand
me laululilled neile täna kingime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkhRKV3K4VY
Ajab oma rida
iga õige mees
kui ka läheb ringi
sirge siht on ees
muutlikud on ajad
lõputud on teed
lähedal ja kaugel
mõistvad kaaslased
Ref.
Aastad kiirelt mööduvad
uued põlved sirguvad
kõige eest mis eile
täna maksma peab
palju neid kes kannatand
on oma elu ohverdand
lapsepõlvekodust pidanud lahkuma
Tules olgu rauad
mitte liiga kaua
õigel ajal meister
teeb valmis töö
sügaval on juured
juurte sees on jõud
arusaadav neile
kes siin on sündinud
Ref.
Aastad kiirelt mööduvad �
Palju neid kes kannatand
on oma elu ohverdand
me laululilled neile täna kingime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkhRKV3K4VY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkhRKV3K4VY
3 January 2018 16:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Pealtvaade:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDCgyVufN2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDCgyVufN2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDCgyVufN2o
3 January 2018 16:03
Margus Meigo replied to Helgi-Maret Olvet's comment.
Mäletad kui laulupeol Lipulaul ära "tuuniti" ja tantsupidi vihmapärast mis meelega saadeti, meelega keelati.. (viimases osas me muidugi päikse uuesti paistma suutsime armastusgea võluda kuid..)
3 January 2018 15:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
täna nii vesine ilm, ei saa kaua nettida, pole vihmavarju kaasas :p
1 January 2018 18:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Ja jõudiski pühalikult see aasta kohale.1 January 2018 18:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
"ma ei suuuda mõista neid..." koht nii oluline osa ka, lisaks kõrgele valusale ilusale ilule
31 December 2017 23:13
Margus Meigo replied to Elgo Kallivere's comment.
Eip
31 December 2017 01:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ei ole eriti suured arvajad te v mäs?
28 December 2017 14:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mu oma koduloomad : )
28 December 2017 14:02
Margus Meigo replied to Sass Vask's comment.
ju mul manageri vaja :D
28 December 2017 14:02
Margus Meigo replied to Sass Vask's comment.
Nu eks siin tuleb mõlemat teha,
Siiamaani pole veel ühtegi klienti kohanud vist viimase 7 aasta jooksul aga..
Siiamaani pole veel ühtegi klienti kohanud vist viimase 7 aasta jooksul aga..
28 December 2017 14:02
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
Actually i did try, but connection keeps freezes (besides my self), Will see if can do in NewYear one!
28 December 2017 14:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti1Oh9imI8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti1Oh9imI8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti1Oh9imI8I
24 December 2017 00:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
24 December 2017 00:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
maamehed küll lipsu ei peaks kandma!
20 December 2017 17:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kaaperdatud ekre alguslugu:
"Asutati 29.09.1994 Tallinnas, regsitreeritakse 03.11.1994. 29.09.1994-18.10.1999 kandis nime Eesti Maarahva Erakond (EME). 1996 aastal peeti liitumis läbirääkimisi Eesti Maaliiduga (EML), uue erakonna nimeks pidi saama Eesti Maarahva Liit (EML), liitumine aga tookord ebaõnnestus. 1999 aasta valimistele kutsus Maarhava Erakond oma nimekirjas oselema ka Arenguparteid ja Eesti Sinist Erakonda, mõlemad aga loobusid. 12.10.1999 registreeritakse nime muutus Eestimaa Rahvaliiduks. 10.06.2000 liitusid ERL-iga Eesti Maaliit (EML) ja Eesti Pensionäride ja Perede Erakond (EPPE). Aastal 2003 ühineb Rahvaliiduga Erakond Uus Eesti (UE). Peale ebaõnnestunud 2007 aasta Riigikogu valimisi teatas oma tagasi astumisest senine esimees Villu Reiljan. 20.03.2007 saab esimehe kohusetäitjaks kuni erakorralise kongressini 29.04.2007 senine põllumajanduseminiser Ester Tuiksoo. 29.04.2007 valitakse erakorralisel suurkogul uueks esimeheks Jaanus Marrandi (203 häält, Ester Tuksoo 178 häält; kandidaatideks seati ka Karel Rüütli ja Erika Salumäe, kes tagandasid oma kandidatuuri). 01.12.2007 erakonna XVI kongressil võetakse vastu uus programm ja taas valitakse erakonna esimeheks senine esimees Jaanus Marrandi (654 poolthäält, 38 kehtetut sedelit), teine esimehe kandidaat Karel Rüütli taandas oma kandidatuuri. 21.10.2009 teeb erakonnale ühinemisettepaneku Eesti Keskerakond (K), kes kutub Rahvaliitu endaga liituma. Järgmisel päeval kogunenud erakonna juhatus suunas küsimuse erakonna võimalikust ühinemisest mõne teise poliitilise jõuga aruteluks piirkonnaorganisatsioonidesse, kus tehtud otsused võetakse kokku 9. novembril toimuval erakonna volikogul. Suures osas erakonna maakonna ühendused ei poolda ühinemist mõne teise erakonnaga, ning 09.11.2009 erakonna volikogu otsustab jätkata üksinda ja mitte alustada kõnelusi liitumisteks teiste erakondadega. 03.07.2010 erakonna erakorralisel kongressil valitakse uueks esimeheks Juhan Aare (295 poolt häält, vastaskandidaat Ingvar Tšižikov kogus 11 häält. Kolmas kandidaat oli Uno Silberg, kes aga loobus oma kandidatuurist soovitusega oma pooldajatel hääletada Juhan Aare poolt). Aseesimeesteks valiti Andrus Blok (255 häält), Ester Tuiksoo (254 häält), Riina Kull (232 häält), Viljar Jaamu (227 häält) ja Mai Treial (226 häält). 29.11.2010 toimub Rahvaliidu XIX kongress, kus valitakse erakonna uueks esimeheks Andrus Blok (353 häält). Senine esimees Juhan Aare kogus 133 häält. Samuti olid üles seatud Riina Kull ja Viljar Jaamu, kuid nemad loobusid kandideerimast. Riina Kull loobus Andres Bloki toetuseks. Aseesimeesteks valiti Mai Treial (404 häält), Riina Kull (349), Viljar Jaamu (284) ja Arno Sild (274). Lauri Vitsut 234 ja Juhan Aare 174 häälega aseesimeesteks ei saanud. Juhatuse liikmeteks said Margo Miljand, Jaan Pöör, Aivar Kaldjärv, Enn Sarv, Rein Tölp, Priit Kõrve, Arvo Sakjas, Monika Kuzmina, Robert Närska ja Olev Liblikmann .Ennem kongressi oli juttu ka võimalikust erakonna nimemuutusest, mis aga jääb ära. Võimaliku uue nimena on mainitud Eesimaa Konservatiivne Rahvaerakond (EKRE). 17.08.2011 Eestimaa Rahvaliidu (ERL) volikogu kiidab heaks liitumisplaani Eesti Rahvusliku Liikumisega (ERL). Ühinemise läbiviimiseks valmistatakse ühiselt ette uus programm ja põhikiri, mis esitatakse siis kummagi organisatsiooni üldkoosolekule kinnitamiseks. Samuti saab uus, ühinenud organisatsioon ka uue nime...
"Asutati 29.09.1994 Tallinnas, regsitreeritakse 03.11.1994. 29.09.1994-18.10.1999 kandis nime Eesti Maarahva Erakond (EME). 1996 aastal peeti liitumis läbirääkimisi Eesti Maaliiduga (EML), uue erakonna nimeks pidi saama Eesti Maarahva Liit (EML), liitumine aga tookord ebaõnnestus. 1999 aasta valimistele kutsus Maarhava Erakond oma nimekirjas oselema ka Arenguparteid ja Eesti Sinist Erakonda, mõlemad aga loobusid. 12.10.1999 registreeritakse nime muutus Eestimaa Rahvaliiduks. 10.06.2000 liitusid ERL-iga Eesti Maaliit (EML) ja Eesti Pensionäride ja Perede Erakond (EPPE). Aastal 2003 ühineb Rahvaliiduga Erakond Uus Eesti (UE). Peale ebaõnnestunud 2007 aasta Riigikogu valimisi teatas oma tagasi astumisest senine esimees Villu Reiljan. 20.03.2007 saab esimehe kohusetäitjaks kuni erakorralise kongressini 29.04.2007 senine põllumajanduseminiser Ester Tuiksoo. 29.04.2007 valitakse erakorralisel suurkogul uueks esimeheks Jaanus Marrandi (203 häält, Ester Tuksoo 178 häält; kandidaatideks seati ka Karel Rüütli ja Erika Salumäe, kes tagandasid oma kandidatuuri). 01.12.2007 erakonna XVI kongressil võetakse vastu uus programm ja taas valitakse erakonna esimeheks senine esimees Jaanus Marrandi (654 poolthäält, 38 kehtetut sedelit), teine esimehe kandidaat Karel Rüütli taandas oma kandidatuuri. 21.10.2009 teeb erakonnale ühinemisettepaneku Eesti Keskerakond (K), kes kutub Rahvaliitu endaga liituma. Järgmisel päeval kogunenud erakonna juhatus suunas küsimuse erakonna võimalikust ühinemisest mõne teise poliitilise jõuga aruteluks piirkonnaorganisatsioonidesse, kus tehtud otsused võetakse kokku 9. novembril toimuval erakonna volikogul. Suures osas erakonna maakonna ühendused ei poolda ühinemist mõne teise erakonnaga, ning 09.11.2009 erakonna volikogu otsustab jätkata üksinda ja mitte alustada kõnelusi liitumisteks teiste erakondadega. 03.07.2010 erakonna erakorralisel kongressil valitakse uueks esimeheks Juhan Aare (295 poolt häält, vastaskandidaat Ingvar Tšižikov kogus 11 häält. Kolmas kandidaat oli Uno Silberg, kes aga loobus oma kandidatuurist soovitusega oma pooldajatel hääletada Juhan Aare poolt). Aseesimeesteks valiti Andrus Blok (255 häält), Ester Tuiksoo (254 häält), Riina Kull (232 häält), Viljar Jaamu (227 häält) ja Mai Treial (226 häält). 29.11.2010 toimub Rahvaliidu XIX kongress, kus valitakse erakonna uueks esimeheks Andrus Blok (353 häält). Senine esimees Juhan Aare kogus 133 häält. Samuti olid üles seatud Riina Kull ja Viljar Jaamu, kuid nemad loobusid kandideerimast. Riina Kull loobus Andres Bloki toetuseks. Aseesimeesteks valiti Mai Treial (404 häält), Riina Kull (349), Viljar Jaamu (284) ja Arno Sild (274). Lauri Vitsut 234 ja Juhan Aare 174 häälega aseesimeesteks ei saanud. Juhatuse liikmeteks said Margo Miljand, Jaan Pöör, Aivar Kaldjärv, Enn Sarv, Rein Tölp, Priit Kõrve, Arvo Sakjas, Monika Kuzmina, Robert Närska ja Olev Liblikmann .Ennem kongressi oli juttu ka võimalikust erakonna nimemuutusest, mis aga jääb ära. Võimaliku uue nimena on mainitud Eesimaa Konservatiivne Rahvaerakond (EKRE). 17.08.2011 Eestimaa Rahvaliidu (ERL) volikogu kiidab heaks liitumisplaani Eesti Rahvusliku Liikumisega (ERL). Ühinemise läbiviimiseks valmistatakse ühiselt ette uus programm ja põhikiri, mis esitatakse siis kummagi organisatsiooni üldkoosolekule kinnitamiseks. Samuti saab uus, ühinenud organisatsioon ka uue nime...
20 December 2017 17:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Millal aga võis olla õige hetk, et tulla avalikult välja rahvusliku poliitilise alternatiiviga, riskimata alanud arengut traagiliselt tagasi paisata?
Seda hetke on võimalik kindlaks teha üksnes hea instinkti ja isikliku riski kaudu.
Ettepanekule alla kirjutanud 14 rahvuslase - Vello Väärtnõu, Eke-Pärt Nõmme, Ärvi Orula, Eve Pärnaste, Heiki Ahoneni, Erik Udami, Urmas Inno, Karin Inno, Endel Ratase, Mati Kiirendi, Kalju Mätliku, Rein Arjukese, Mati Vilu, Arvo Pesti - võetud risk osutus õigeaegseks.
Seda hetke on võimalik kindlaks teha üksnes hea instinkti ja isikliku riski kaudu.
Ettepanekule alla kirjutanud 14 rahvuslase - Vello Väärtnõu, Eke-Pärt Nõmme, Ärvi Orula, Eve Pärnaste, Heiki Ahoneni, Erik Udami, Urmas Inno, Karin Inno, Endel Ratase, Mati Kiirendi, Kalju Mätliku, Rein Arjukese, Mati Vilu, Arvo Pesti - võetud risk osutus õigeaegseks.
20 December 2017 14:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Selle tabu rikkujaid ootas varem surmanuhtlus, hiljem ebainimlik ja pikk karistus sunnitöölaagreis.
Seetõttu püüti isegi liberaalsemail aegadel poliitilisi taotlusi maskeerida näiteks kultuuriseltside sildi taha. ERSP rajamine murdis paisu.
Niipea kui selgus, et poliitilise erakonna asutamine pole enam karistatav, järgnes uute parteide asutamise laine, seda mitte üksnes Eestis, vaid ka mujal Nõukogude Liidus. ERSP organisatsiooniline struktuur ja demokraatlik põhikiri said mitmeti eeskujuks järgnevatele parteidele.
Juba septembris 1988 saatis ERSP avaliku läkituse Ühinenud Rahvaste Organisatsioonile, nõudes rahvusvahelise õiguse vastaselt okupeeritud Eesti sõltumatuse taastamist ja Eesti vastuvõtmist ÜRO-sse. Veebruaris 1989 algatas ERSP koos Muinsuskaitse Seltsi ja Eesti Kristliku Liiduga Eesti Vabariigi seadusliku kodanikkonna registreerimise – nn. Kodanike komiteede liikumise.
Selle liikumise tulemusena valitud Eesti Kongressis oli ERSP juhtivaid jõude. 1992-1995 kuulus ERSP esimesse põhiseaduslikusse valitsusse ning ühines 1995 koonderakonnaga “Isamaa” Isamaaliiduks.
Viisteist aastat tagasi valitsenud olukorda meenutades torkab silma huvitav kokkulangevus.
Kui 20. augustil 1988 peeti Eesti Rahvusliku Sõltumatuse Partei programmi riskantseks utoopiaks, siis täpselt kolm aastat hiljem – 20. augustil 1991 taasiseseisvus Eesti Vabariik just nende põhimõtete alusel.
Iseseisvus rahvusriigina, mille mõte on väljendatud ERSP asutajaliikme Jüri Adamsi koostatud 1992. aasta põhiseaduses: “tagada eesti rahvuse ja kultuuri säilimine läbi aegade.”
Tunne Kelam
ERSP asutajaliige, ERSP esimees 1993-95"
http://www.estoniannyingmaencyclopedia.com/est/index.php/ERSP
Seetõttu püüti isegi liberaalsemail aegadel poliitilisi taotlusi maskeerida näiteks kultuuriseltside sildi taha. ERSP rajamine murdis paisu.
Niipea kui selgus, et poliitilise erakonna asutamine pole enam karistatav, järgnes uute parteide asutamise laine, seda mitte üksnes Eestis, vaid ka mujal Nõukogude Liidus. ERSP organisatsiooniline struktuur ja demokraatlik põhikiri said mitmeti eeskujuks järgnevatele parteidele.
Juba septembris 1988 saatis ERSP avaliku läkituse Ühinenud Rahvaste Organisatsioonile, nõudes rahvusvahelise õiguse vastaselt okupeeritud Eesti sõltumatuse taastamist ja Eesti vastuvõtmist ÜRO-sse. Veebruaris 1989 algatas ERSP koos Muinsuskaitse Seltsi ja Eesti Kristliku Liiduga Eesti Vabariigi seadusliku kodanikkonna registreerimise – nn. Kodanike komiteede liikumise.
Selle liikumise tulemusena valitud Eesti Kongressis oli ERSP juhtivaid jõude. 1992-1995 kuulus ERSP esimesse põhiseaduslikusse valitsusse ning ühines 1995 koonderakonnaga “Isamaa” Isamaaliiduks.
Viisteist aastat tagasi valitsenud olukorda meenutades torkab silma huvitav kokkulangevus.
Kui 20. augustil 1988 peeti Eesti Rahvusliku Sõltumatuse Partei programmi riskantseks utoopiaks, siis täpselt kolm aastat hiljem – 20. augustil 1991 taasiseseisvus Eesti Vabariik just nende põhimõtete alusel.
Iseseisvus rahvusriigina, mille mõte on väljendatud ERSP asutajaliikme Jüri Adamsi koostatud 1992. aasta põhiseaduses: “tagada eesti rahvuse ja kultuuri säilimine läbi aegade.”
Tunne Kelam
ERSP asutajaliige, ERSP esimees 1993-95"
http://www.estoniannyingmaencyclopedia.com/est/index.php/ERSP
http://www.estoniannyingmaencyclopedia.com/est/index.php/ERSP
20 December 2017 14:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
20. augustil täitub viisteist aastat Eesti Rahvusliku Sõltumatuse Partei (ERSP ) asutamisest. ERSP oli tõenäoliselt esimene mitte-kommunistlik demokraatlik erakond tollaseNõukogude Liidu alal.
ERSP asutajad tulid kokku Pilistveres, Viljandimaal, asutamiskoosolek peeti kohalikus kirikus, mille pastoriks on jätkuvalt Vello Salum, ERSP esimese juhatuse liige.
Aastal 1988 oli see julge tegu, mis võinuks maksta vähemalt ametikoha.
Tookord polnud mingit kindlust, kas ainuvalitsevale komparteile põhimõttelise väljakutse esitanud seltskonnal võimaldatakse partei loomine lõpule viia või surutakse see jõuga maha.
20. augustil 1988 peeti ERSP programmis esmakordselt välja kuulutud eesmärki – taastada täielikult iseseisev Eesti rahvusriik – ebareaalseks või liig julgeks. Kõigest paar kuud varem oli saanud taas võimalikuks eesti rahvusvärvide avalik kasutamine.
Ometi kardeti üha Nõukogude armee ja võimuaparaadi karistavat vastulööki, kui ületatakse “mõistlikkuse piir”. Eelistati loota, et kindlamaks vahendiks kriisist pääsemisel on Nõukogude Liidu kompartei katse tõsta end nagu parun Münchhausen ise juukseidpidi soomülkast välja.
Asutamata oli veel Rahvarinne, mis ametlikult loodi poolteist kuud hiljem.
Just sel hetkel kuulutasid ERSP algatajad vajadust teha lõpp kompartei võimumonopolile, kehtestada mitme partei süsteem ning esitasid tegevuskava, et venestamissurve alla asetatud eestlased võiksid rahvusena kestma jääda.
Põhimõtteline lahknevus kommunistlike uuenduskatsetega võrreldes seisnes selles, et ERSP asutajad keeldusid uskumast kompartei moraalsesse õigusesse ja reaalsesse suutlikkusse ühiskonda tõeliselt reformida. T
eine, sama põhimõtteline erinevus puudutas rahvusriiklust: rahvusdemokraatlike jõudude veendumuse põhjal said Eesti tuleviku üle otsustada üksnes 1918.a. välja kuulutatud Eesti Vabariigi seaduslikud kodanikud. Kompartei reformistid ei osanud või ei söandanud teha vahet Eesti Vabariigi kodanike ning nõukogude immigrantide vahel.
Oleks areng jätkunud viimatimainitud skeemi kohaselt, siis jäänuks ka iseseisvunud Eesti kakskeelseks, otsustusõigus Eesti tuleviku suhtes kuulunuks kõigile nõukogude sissekirjutusega elanikele ning parlamendi liikmeist moodustanuks umbes 40% mitte-eestlased.
Sellise valiku korral poleks Eesti lahkunud Venemaa mõjupiirkonnast ega võinuks unistadagi Euroopa Liitu või NATO-sse astumisest. ERSP asutamisega pandi niisiis alus rahvuslik-demokraatlikule alternatiivile ikka veel kehtiva nõukogude süsteemi suhtes.
Pärast 20. augustit 1988 ei saanud kommunistlikud võimumehed enam väita, et üksnes nende käes on võti ja vahendid ühiskonna väljaviimiseks sügavast kriisist, kuhu kompartei oli selle ise juhtinud.
ERSP asutamiskoosolekul esitati illusioonidevaba ja realistlik nägemus Eesti olukorrast. ERSP rajajate tugevaimaks küljeks tuleb pidada võimet tunnetada nõukogude riigis alanud muudatuste potentsiaali, orienteeruda mitte tänasele, vaid homsele, juba kujunevale tegelikkusele.
Selleks oli vaja selget ja põhimõttelist lahenduskava. Pilistveres õeldi välja, et rahvuslik sõltumatus ei saa olla muude reformide poolhäbelik kõrvalsaadus, vaid on ainus vahend ja tagatis eesti rahva olukorra lahendamiseks.
Uppuja ei saa end päästa, olles ise käsist ja jalust seotud suurema uppuja külge ja olles sunnitud igaks päästmisliigutuseks Moskvast luba paluma. Eluohtlik olukord eeldab täielikku liikumis- ja otsustamisvabadust, teisi sõnu – riiklikku iseseisvust.
ERSP ei kujunenud tühjal kohal.
Tema tuumiku moodustasid Hirvepargi 1987. aasta meeleavalduse organiseerinud rahvusdemokraadid ja hiljutised süümevangid nagu Lagle Parek, Heiki Ahonen, Arvo Pesti, Erik Udam, Mati Kiirend, Jüri Adams, Eve Pärnaste, Viktor Niitsoo, Kalju Mätik, Endel Ratas jt.
http://www.estoniannyingmaencyclopedia.com/est/index.php/Eesti_Rahvusliku_S%C3%B5ltumatuse_Partei_%E2%80%93_esimene_p%C3%A4%C3%A4suke_Eesti_Vabariigi_taastulekul
ERSP asutajad tulid kokku Pilistveres, Viljandimaal, asutamiskoosolek peeti kohalikus kirikus, mille pastoriks on jätkuvalt Vello Salum, ERSP esimese juhatuse liige.
Aastal 1988 oli see julge tegu, mis võinuks maksta vähemalt ametikoha.
Tookord polnud mingit kindlust, kas ainuvalitsevale komparteile põhimõttelise väljakutse esitanud seltskonnal võimaldatakse partei loomine lõpule viia või surutakse see jõuga maha.
20. augustil 1988 peeti ERSP programmis esmakordselt välja kuulutud eesmärki – taastada täielikult iseseisev Eesti rahvusriik – ebareaalseks või liig julgeks. Kõigest paar kuud varem oli saanud taas võimalikuks eesti rahvusvärvide avalik kasutamine.
Ometi kardeti üha Nõukogude armee ja võimuaparaadi karistavat vastulööki, kui ületatakse “mõistlikkuse piir”. Eelistati loota, et kindlamaks vahendiks kriisist pääsemisel on Nõukogude Liidu kompartei katse tõsta end nagu parun Münchhausen ise juukseidpidi soomülkast välja.
Asutamata oli veel Rahvarinne, mis ametlikult loodi poolteist kuud hiljem.
Just sel hetkel kuulutasid ERSP algatajad vajadust teha lõpp kompartei võimumonopolile, kehtestada mitme partei süsteem ning esitasid tegevuskava, et venestamissurve alla asetatud eestlased võiksid rahvusena kestma jääda.
Põhimõtteline lahknevus kommunistlike uuenduskatsetega võrreldes seisnes selles, et ERSP asutajad keeldusid uskumast kompartei moraalsesse õigusesse ja reaalsesse suutlikkusse ühiskonda tõeliselt reformida. T
eine, sama põhimõtteline erinevus puudutas rahvusriiklust: rahvusdemokraatlike jõudude veendumuse põhjal said Eesti tuleviku üle otsustada üksnes 1918.a. välja kuulutatud Eesti Vabariigi seaduslikud kodanikud. Kompartei reformistid ei osanud või ei söandanud teha vahet Eesti Vabariigi kodanike ning nõukogude immigrantide vahel.
Oleks areng jätkunud viimatimainitud skeemi kohaselt, siis jäänuks ka iseseisvunud Eesti kakskeelseks, otsustusõigus Eesti tuleviku suhtes kuulunuks kõigile nõukogude sissekirjutusega elanikele ning parlamendi liikmeist moodustanuks umbes 40% mitte-eestlased.
Sellise valiku korral poleks Eesti lahkunud Venemaa mõjupiirkonnast ega võinuks unistadagi Euroopa Liitu või NATO-sse astumisest. ERSP asutamisega pandi niisiis alus rahvuslik-demokraatlikule alternatiivile ikka veel kehtiva nõukogude süsteemi suhtes.
Pärast 20. augustit 1988 ei saanud kommunistlikud võimumehed enam väita, et üksnes nende käes on võti ja vahendid ühiskonna väljaviimiseks sügavast kriisist, kuhu kompartei oli selle ise juhtinud.
ERSP asutamiskoosolekul esitati illusioonidevaba ja realistlik nägemus Eesti olukorrast. ERSP rajajate tugevaimaks küljeks tuleb pidada võimet tunnetada nõukogude riigis alanud muudatuste potentsiaali, orienteeruda mitte tänasele, vaid homsele, juba kujunevale tegelikkusele.
Selleks oli vaja selget ja põhimõttelist lahenduskava. Pilistveres õeldi välja, et rahvuslik sõltumatus ei saa olla muude reformide poolhäbelik kõrvalsaadus, vaid on ainus vahend ja tagatis eesti rahva olukorra lahendamiseks.
Uppuja ei saa end päästa, olles ise käsist ja jalust seotud suurema uppuja külge ja olles sunnitud igaks päästmisliigutuseks Moskvast luba paluma. Eluohtlik olukord eeldab täielikku liikumis- ja otsustamisvabadust, teisi sõnu – riiklikku iseseisvust.
ERSP ei kujunenud tühjal kohal.
Tema tuumiku moodustasid Hirvepargi 1987. aasta meeleavalduse organiseerinud rahvusdemokraadid ja hiljutised süümevangid nagu Lagle Parek, Heiki Ahonen, Arvo Pesti, Erik Udam, Mati Kiirend, Jüri Adams, Eve Pärnaste, Viktor Niitsoo, Kalju Mätik, Endel Ratas jt.
http://www.estoniannyingmaencyclopedia.com/est/index.php/Eesti_Rahvusliku_S%C3%B5ltumatuse_Partei_%E2%80%93_esimene_p%C3%A4%C3%A4suke_Eesti_Vabariigi_taastulekul
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20 December 2017 14:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Eelseisval nädalavahetusel tähistatakse Viljandimaal Pilistveres kahekümne aasta täitumist Eesti Rahvusliku Sõltumatuse Partei (ERSP) asutamisest.
Aastapäeva tähistatakse sel pühapäeval, 24. augustil kell 11 Pilistveres stalinismiohvrite kivikangru juures algava kõnekoosolekuga. Esinevad ERSP juhid Lagle Parek (esimees 1989-1993) ja Tunne Kelam (esimees 1993-1995) ning ajaloolane David Vseviov, teatas Isamaa ja Res Publica Liit (IRL).
Kell 13 algab pidulik jumalateenistus Pilistvere kirikus, kuhu on kutsutud kõikide Eesti erakondade esimehed, ja Nõukogude Liidu esimese demokraatliku partei mälestustahvli avamine kirikuaias. Esineb tütarlastekoor Ellerhein.
20. augustil 1988 toimus Pilistvere kirikus ERSP asutamiskoosolek, kus osales 104 inimest. ERSP asutamiskoosolekul esitati realistlik nägemus Eesti olukorrast. IRLi hinnangul tuleb ERSP rajajate tugevaimaks küljeks pidada võimet tunnetada Nõukogude riigis alanud muudatuste potentsiaali, orienteeruda mitte tänasele, vaid homsele, juba kujunevale tegelikkusele.
Pilistveres öeldi välja, et rahvuslik sõltumatus ei saa olla muude reformide poolhäbelik kõrvalsaadus, vaid on ainus vahend ja tagatis eesti rahva olukorra lahendamiseks.
ERSP põhieesmärk oli Eesti vabariigi taastamine õigusliku järjepidevuse alusel. 1995. aastal ühinesid ERSP ja Rahvuslik Koonderakond Isamaa Isamaaliiduks. Tänaseks on erakonnad ühinenud Isamaa ja Res Publica Liiduks.
Aegade jooksul on ERSPsse kuulunud 1385 inimest.
Heikki Aasaru
http://www.eesti.ca/pilistveres-tahistatakse-ersp-asutamise-20-aastapaeva-err/article20732
Aastapäeva tähistatakse sel pühapäeval, 24. augustil kell 11 Pilistveres stalinismiohvrite kivikangru juures algava kõnekoosolekuga. Esinevad ERSP juhid Lagle Parek (esimees 1989-1993) ja Tunne Kelam (esimees 1993-1995) ning ajaloolane David Vseviov, teatas Isamaa ja Res Publica Liit (IRL).
Kell 13 algab pidulik jumalateenistus Pilistvere kirikus, kuhu on kutsutud kõikide Eesti erakondade esimehed, ja Nõukogude Liidu esimese demokraatliku partei mälestustahvli avamine kirikuaias. Esineb tütarlastekoor Ellerhein.
20. augustil 1988 toimus Pilistvere kirikus ERSP asutamiskoosolek, kus osales 104 inimest. ERSP asutamiskoosolekul esitati realistlik nägemus Eesti olukorrast. IRLi hinnangul tuleb ERSP rajajate tugevaimaks küljeks pidada võimet tunnetada Nõukogude riigis alanud muudatuste potentsiaali, orienteeruda mitte tänasele, vaid homsele, juba kujunevale tegelikkusele.
Pilistveres öeldi välja, et rahvuslik sõltumatus ei saa olla muude reformide poolhäbelik kõrvalsaadus, vaid on ainus vahend ja tagatis eesti rahva olukorra lahendamiseks.
ERSP põhieesmärk oli Eesti vabariigi taastamine õigusliku järjepidevuse alusel. 1995. aastal ühinesid ERSP ja Rahvuslik Koonderakond Isamaa Isamaaliiduks. Tänaseks on erakonnad ühinenud Isamaa ja Res Publica Liiduks.
Aegade jooksul on ERSPsse kuulunud 1385 inimest.
Heikki Aasaru
http://www.eesti.ca/pilistveres-tahistatakse-ersp-asutamise-20-aastapaeva-err/article20732
http://www.eesti.ca/pilistveres-tahistatakse-ersp-asutamise-20-aastapaeva-err/article20732
20 December 2017 14:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ühe talu taga-aias Läänemaal on kolm 7-9 meetri kõrgust stuupat.
Käinud neid, meie oludes üpris tavatuid ehitisi uudistamas, selgus, et hetkel viibib oma maakodus Lihula kandis ka Eestimaa Budistliku Vennaskonna vaimne juht ning stuupde ehitamise eestvedaja, kunstnik Vello Väärtnõu.
Hr.Väärtnõu senist elu on mõneti aidanud vormida raske stagna-aeg, nagu nüüd armastatakse toonitada.
Tema enda sõnul sisaldub selles mitmeid sõnakaid fakte, millele näiteks julgeolekul meeldib viidata.
1969.aastal, kaheksateistkümnese noorukina, pandi ta Karjalas piiri ületamise katse eest paariks aastaks istuma.
Teine kord tuli rootsi kardinaid seestpoolt imetleda 1982.a..Nüüd oli asi tunduvalt keerukam.
Algul süüdistati teda taas piiririkkumises, siis määriti kaela veel nõukogude-vastane tegevus ja lõpuks lisati kunstiväärtuste väljavedu Liidust.
Kõik kokku pidi tooma oma 12 aastat. Lõpuks jõuti aga järeldusele, et tegemist on parandamatu skisofreenikuga.
Diagnoosi panemisele aitas kaasa arstliku komisjoni liige professor Saarma.
Viimane surunud hiljem Vello kätt ning sõnanud – ``
Vabanda, aga teisiti ma ei saanud talitada``.
Igal juhul pääses hr.Väärtnõu tookord poole aastaga vabadusse, niipalju kui seda tollal oli.
Samal ajal heideti ta välja Kunstnike Liidu noortekoondisest.
Põhjuseks: käitumine ei vastavat nõukogude kunstnikule. Anti ka paber, millele oli märgitud, et ta polevat autoinspektsioonis ära maksnud trahvi (kiiruse ületamise eest).
Hiljem selgus, et Kunstnike Liitu olevat helistatud ning öeldud, et nende liikmed ei tohi vangis istuda.
Hiljem Rootsis tegi Vello Väärtnõu mõned pildid, kollaazhid, kuhu ta on peale virutanud ka Kunstnike Liidu presiidiumi protokolli.
Pärast vangist vabanemist läkski õigupoolest stuupade ehitamiseks lahti.
Esimene stuupa valmis 1982. a. Jüri Arraku suvila õuel Pangarehel.
1984-1985 tehti juurde veel kolm stuupat, seekord Läänemaale Siim Jõesaare talu taga-aeda.Vello Väärtnõu on kunstitegemise ja kõige muu kõrval tegelenud aastaid ka budismiga, käinud ka kloostris.
Aastail 1983 – 1988 tegutseski Eestimaa Budistlik Vennaskond,seega ajani, mil ta N:Liidust välja saadeti.
Muide siis võeti maha ka skisofreenia diagnoos.
Selgus, et see olevat olnud eksitus.
Nüüdseks võib Vennaskonda alles jäänud liikmeid ühe käe sõrmedel üles lugeda.
Vello talus elavad kaks budisti Peeter kaasik ja Jüri Saard, muidugi on veel Siim Jõesaar ja see olekski nagu kõik.
Ülejäänud on kes Rootsis, kes USA-s.
Ent tollal tehti budistlikke skulptuure, trükiti pühapilte (tankasid), tõlgiti raamatuid ja muid tekste, õpiti tiibet ja vana-mongoli keelt.
Juhtnööre keelte alal andis mõningal määral auväärt Pent Nurmekund.
Palusin Vello Väärtnõul selgitada, mis tähendus on stuupadel tema jaoks?
--`` Stuupa on psühho-kosmiline mudel.
Kus on stuupad,seal on ka budism. See on täpselt nii nagu : seal kus on inimesed, on ka nende eluasemed.
Kui inimene tegeleb mingi asjaga, siis peab sellest tegevusest jääma jälg.
Budism pole minu jaoks religion, vaid puhtalt eluvorm või struktuur.``
--`` Põhimõte on selles, et stuupasid rajatakse mitmesuguste jumaluste, mitmesuguste sündmuste auks.
Ent iseendast kujutavad nad puhtalt maailmamudelit.
Iga aste, iga korrus stuupa juures omab mingit tähendust.Sääl on ju olemas kuup,kera ja kolmnurk, need tähendavad aga algelemente ning selles on terve sümboolika.
Stuupade sisse pannakse mitmesuguseid rohtusid ja tekste.
Üleval on säärane ümmargune osa – bumbaa -, see on annetustenõu või aarete peidukoht.
Selle sees asuvad budistlikud skulptuurid, samuti mandalad.
Mandala tähendab maailmamudelit, kus on sees jumaluste väljad ja seda kasutatakse meditatsiooniks jne. Samuti on stuupas pühapildid – tankad.
Stuupa annab inimesele psüühilist jõudu, ta mõjub inimesele.
Meie järgime tegelikult Tiibeti budismi – lamaismi.``
Stuupade ehitamise ajal hr.Väärnõu otsene kunstitegemine soikus, oli ju kogu tollane elu kui kunst.
Ning siis lisandus veel poliitikasse süüvimine. 1987.a. pakkus ta välja komparteile vastukaaluks opositsioonipartei loomise idee.
Sama aasta 7. novembril oli Pärnus mingi kogunemine ja seal ta ütles, et oleks vajalik luua oma partei, sest mõttetu on niisama kõnesid pidada.
Jõulude ajaks sai valmis esialgne programm, mida aitas täiendada Erik Udam.
Kuid 13. veebruaril 1988 saadeti hr. Väärtnõu Eestist välja.
Talle tehti ettepanek emigreerimiseks ent ta keeldus.
Ja siis ühel päeval astusid julgeoleku seltsimehed Tallinnas ligi ning ütlesid, et läheb sõiduks.
Lennati Moskvasse ja 15 minutiga OLID Rootsi saatkonnas paberid vormistatud.
Saatkonna tollane esimene sekretär Dag Hartelius sõnanud, et hr. Väärtnõu on Rootsi diplomaatia ajaloos arvatavasti esimene mees, kellele on nii kähku antud luba nende maale elama asumiseks.
Julgeolekus nõudis hr.Vello Väärtnõu, et saaks endaga kaasa võtta ka Eke-Pärt Nõmme ja seda lubatigi.
Ilmselt oleks ta võinud teisigi kaasa viia.
Hr Väärtnõu tegeleb Rootsis põhiliselt kunstiga.
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Käinud neid, meie oludes üpris tavatuid ehitisi uudistamas, selgus, et hetkel viibib oma maakodus Lihula kandis ka Eestimaa Budistliku Vennaskonna vaimne juht ning stuupde ehitamise eestvedaja, kunstnik Vello Väärtnõu.
Hr.Väärtnõu senist elu on mõneti aidanud vormida raske stagna-aeg, nagu nüüd armastatakse toonitada.
Tema enda sõnul sisaldub selles mitmeid sõnakaid fakte, millele näiteks julgeolekul meeldib viidata.
1969.aastal, kaheksateistkümnese noorukina, pandi ta Karjalas piiri ületamise katse eest paariks aastaks istuma.
Teine kord tuli rootsi kardinaid seestpoolt imetleda 1982.a..Nüüd oli asi tunduvalt keerukam.
Algul süüdistati teda taas piiririkkumises, siis määriti kaela veel nõukogude-vastane tegevus ja lõpuks lisati kunstiväärtuste väljavedu Liidust.
Kõik kokku pidi tooma oma 12 aastat. Lõpuks jõuti aga järeldusele, et tegemist on parandamatu skisofreenikuga.
Diagnoosi panemisele aitas kaasa arstliku komisjoni liige professor Saarma.
Viimane surunud hiljem Vello kätt ning sõnanud – ``
Vabanda, aga teisiti ma ei saanud talitada``.
Igal juhul pääses hr.Väärtnõu tookord poole aastaga vabadusse, niipalju kui seda tollal oli.
Samal ajal heideti ta välja Kunstnike Liidu noortekoondisest.
Põhjuseks: käitumine ei vastavat nõukogude kunstnikule. Anti ka paber, millele oli märgitud, et ta polevat autoinspektsioonis ära maksnud trahvi (kiiruse ületamise eest).
Hiljem selgus, et Kunstnike Liitu olevat helistatud ning öeldud, et nende liikmed ei tohi vangis istuda.
Hiljem Rootsis tegi Vello Väärtnõu mõned pildid, kollaazhid, kuhu ta on peale virutanud ka Kunstnike Liidu presiidiumi protokolli.
Pärast vangist vabanemist läkski õigupoolest stuupade ehitamiseks lahti.
Esimene stuupa valmis 1982. a. Jüri Arraku suvila õuel Pangarehel.
1984-1985 tehti juurde veel kolm stuupat, seekord Läänemaale Siim Jõesaare talu taga-aeda.Vello Väärtnõu on kunstitegemise ja kõige muu kõrval tegelenud aastaid ka budismiga, käinud ka kloostris.
Aastail 1983 – 1988 tegutseski Eestimaa Budistlik Vennaskond,seega ajani, mil ta N:Liidust välja saadeti.
Muide siis võeti maha ka skisofreenia diagnoos.
Selgus, et see olevat olnud eksitus.
Nüüdseks võib Vennaskonda alles jäänud liikmeid ühe käe sõrmedel üles lugeda.
Vello talus elavad kaks budisti Peeter kaasik ja Jüri Saard, muidugi on veel Siim Jõesaar ja see olekski nagu kõik.
Ülejäänud on kes Rootsis, kes USA-s.
Ent tollal tehti budistlikke skulptuure, trükiti pühapilte (tankasid), tõlgiti raamatuid ja muid tekste, õpiti tiibet ja vana-mongoli keelt.
Juhtnööre keelte alal andis mõningal määral auväärt Pent Nurmekund.
Palusin Vello Väärtnõul selgitada, mis tähendus on stuupadel tema jaoks?
--`` Stuupa on psühho-kosmiline mudel.
Kus on stuupad,seal on ka budism. See on täpselt nii nagu : seal kus on inimesed, on ka nende eluasemed.
Kui inimene tegeleb mingi asjaga, siis peab sellest tegevusest jääma jälg.
Budism pole minu jaoks religion, vaid puhtalt eluvorm või struktuur.``
--`` Põhimõte on selles, et stuupasid rajatakse mitmesuguste jumaluste, mitmesuguste sündmuste auks.
Ent iseendast kujutavad nad puhtalt maailmamudelit.
Iga aste, iga korrus stuupa juures omab mingit tähendust.Sääl on ju olemas kuup,kera ja kolmnurk, need tähendavad aga algelemente ning selles on terve sümboolika.
Stuupade sisse pannakse mitmesuguseid rohtusid ja tekste.
Üleval on säärane ümmargune osa – bumbaa -, see on annetustenõu või aarete peidukoht.
Selle sees asuvad budistlikud skulptuurid, samuti mandalad.
Mandala tähendab maailmamudelit, kus on sees jumaluste väljad ja seda kasutatakse meditatsiooniks jne. Samuti on stuupas pühapildid – tankad.
Stuupa annab inimesele psüühilist jõudu, ta mõjub inimesele.
Meie järgime tegelikult Tiibeti budismi – lamaismi.``
Stuupade ehitamise ajal hr.Väärnõu otsene kunstitegemine soikus, oli ju kogu tollane elu kui kunst.
Ning siis lisandus veel poliitikasse süüvimine. 1987.a. pakkus ta välja komparteile vastukaaluks opositsioonipartei loomise idee.
Sama aasta 7. novembril oli Pärnus mingi kogunemine ja seal ta ütles, et oleks vajalik luua oma partei, sest mõttetu on niisama kõnesid pidada.
Jõulude ajaks sai valmis esialgne programm, mida aitas täiendada Erik Udam.
Kuid 13. veebruaril 1988 saadeti hr. Väärtnõu Eestist välja.
Talle tehti ettepanek emigreerimiseks ent ta keeldus.
Ja siis ühel päeval astusid julgeoleku seltsimehed Tallinnas ligi ning ütlesid, et läheb sõiduks.
Lennati Moskvasse ja 15 minutiga OLID Rootsi saatkonnas paberid vormistatud.
Saatkonna tollane esimene sekretär Dag Hartelius sõnanud, et hr. Väärtnõu on Rootsi diplomaatia ajaloos arvatavasti esimene mees, kellele on nii kähku antud luba nende maale elama asumiseks.
Julgeolekus nõudis hr.Vello Väärtnõu, et saaks endaga kaasa võtta ka Eke-Pärt Nõmme ja seda lubatigi.
Ilmselt oleks ta võinud teisigi kaasa viia.
Hr Väärtnõu tegeleb Rootsis põhiliselt kunstiga.
http://www.estoniannyingmaencyclopedia.com/est/index.php/Kunstnik_Vello_V%C3%A4%C3%A4rtn%C3%B6u_budistliku_templit_ehitamas
http://www.estoniannyingmaencyclopedia.com/est/index.php/Kunstnik_Vello_V%C3%A4%C3%A4rtn%C3%B6u_budistliku_templit_ehitamas
20 December 2017 14:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.. ja kui veel lisada juurde see skandaal, läheb kindlasti veel kirjumaks see arusaam, et mis juurtega ja mida siin tehakse täpsemalt..
"Ühte Austraalia budismiportaali ilmus hiljuti esimesel pilgul arusaamatu avaldus selle kohta, et 1988. aastal Eestis sündinud Henri Lebedevil pole mingit seost rahvusvahelise konverentsiga "Budism ja Austraalia".
Raske on ette kujutada midagi teineteisest kaugemat, kui kurikuulsa Pärnu poksiklubi Everlast kasvandik Lebedev ja Austraalia budism. Aga see ainult näib nii. Tegelikult leidub mõjuv põhjus neid seoseid eeldada, varjata ja eitada. Peale selle joonistub esimesel pilgul seosetu avalduse tagamaadest lähiuurimisel reljeefsemalt välja aastaid tagasi kogu Eestit vapustanud kuriteo võimalik taust."
https://www.ohtuleht.ee/496173/eesti-budistlikud-loomamehed-austraalias
"Ühte Austraalia budismiportaali ilmus hiljuti esimesel pilgul arusaamatu avaldus selle kohta, et 1988. aastal Eestis sündinud Henri Lebedevil pole mingit seost rahvusvahelise konverentsiga "Budism ja Austraalia".
Raske on ette kujutada midagi teineteisest kaugemat, kui kurikuulsa Pärnu poksiklubi Everlast kasvandik Lebedev ja Austraalia budism. Aga see ainult näib nii. Tegelikult leidub mõjuv põhjus neid seoseid eeldada, varjata ja eitada. Peale selle joonistub esimesel pilgul seosetu avalduse tagamaadest lähiuurimisel reljeefsemalt välja aastaid tagasi kogu Eestit vapustanud kuriteo võimalik taust."
https://www.ohtuleht.ee/496173/eesti-budistlikud-loomamehed-austraalias
https://www.ohtuleht.ee/496173/eesti-budistlikud-loomamehed-austraalias
20 December 2017 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Väärtnõu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=914JoaVgx_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=914JoaVgx_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=914JoaVgx_U
20 December 2017 14:32
Margus Meigo commented on Isabella Urbel's post.
Group: Korterikaaslased - Flatmate
Ma proovin leida midagi kus kõik kokku oleks alla 100 euro, kuid iseenesest meeldiv näha, et inimestel on hoopis teistsugused sissetulekud : )19 December 2017 14:55
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
karm
18 December 2017 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Lumehelbeke.. tasa tasa...
http://www.trapshooters.com/threads/young-people-say-calling-them-a-snowflake-damages-their-mental-health.601961/
http://www.trapshooters.com/threads/young-people-say-calling-them-a-snowflake-damages-their-mental-health.601961/
http://www.trapshooters.com/threads/young-people-say-calling-them-a-snowflake-damages-their-mental-health.601961/
18 December 2017 19:58
Margus Meigo commented on Riigi Infosüsteemi Amet's link.
Siin veel lehti ja avalike ressursse vaatamaks kõige elementaarsemat alustuseks:
https://hacked-emails.com/ (5+ miljardit, mu meiliga leitud 31 lehte (powned leidis 24)). Ühe häkkeri eraprojekt.
https://haveibeencompromised.com/ (12 lehe oma leitud, saadab emaili (vahest späm kausta))
https://breachalarm.com/ (suts tüütum, kuid annab ka infot, 19 lehte. Saadab emaili.)
http://breachlevelindex.com/top-data-breaches (9 miljardit registreeritud infokaotustena alates aastast 2013.) Sotsiaal meedia sellest on alla 1%, valitsuse siseinfo u 20%, finants sektor üle 7%.
Eestis 13 000, leedus 0, soomes 3000. Venemaal 56 millionit. Kuid eks suts ebaselge mis infona viimast mõeldud on.
https://hacked-emails.com/ (5+ miljardit, mu meiliga leitud 31 lehte (powned leidis 24)). Ühe häkkeri eraprojekt.
https://haveibeencompromised.com/ (12 lehe oma leitud, saadab emaili (vahest späm kausta))
https://breachalarm.com/ (suts tüütum, kuid annab ka infot, 19 lehte. Saadab emaili.)
http://breachlevelindex.com/top-data-breaches (9 miljardit registreeritud infokaotustena alates aastast 2013.) Sotsiaal meedia sellest on alla 1%, valitsuse siseinfo u 20%, finants sektor üle 7%.
Eestis 13 000, leedus 0, soomes 3000. Venemaal 56 millionit. Kuid eks suts ebaselge mis infona viimast mõeldud on.
https://hacked-emails.com/
18 December 2017 18:54
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
"EPL on kolme viimase aasta jooksul teinud aegade suurima kasvu. Kui 2015. aastal oli pabertellijaid ca 20 000 ja digitellijaid 7000, siis täna on need arvud 15 000 ja 25 000. Kindlasti on digitellijate agressiivsel ja kiirel kasvul oma roll paberlehe tiraaži languses. Aga meid rõõmustab, et EPL-i digitellijate arv ei ole rekordiline vaid Eestis, vaid suhtarve jälgides kogu regioonis. Samuti tunneme rõõmu, kuidas nende inimeste hulk, kes ostavad artikleid, on viimaste nädalatega maruliselt kasvanud. EPL-i kui paberlehe sulgemisest ei ole põhjust rääkida."
http://www.err.ee/597783/ajalehtede-tiraazid-kukuvad-paevaleht-kaotas-aastaga-veerandi-trukist
Alla oma hinna:
""See on täiesti teadlik otsus - lõpetasime ära lisatiraaži, sellega vähenes tasuta jagatavate paberlehtede hulk ja lõpetasime PM-i müügi alla omahinna. Kuna varem olid suured lisatiraažid, siis sellega hoiti numbreid üleval, aga leidsime, et see ei ole mõistlik, vaid mõistlik on teha kvaliteeti," selgitas Hussar."
// vaat milline mõistlik otsus, et alla oma hinna pole mõtet müüa..
2012:
"Võiks arvata, et Eesti meediasüsteem on saanud olulisi mõjutusi 50 okupatsiooniaastast, mil see oli üles ehitatud nõukogulikul viisil ja tugevalt kontrollitud. See arvamus ei pea täiel määral paika, meie meediasüsteem on 1990ndatel toimunud muutustest alates arenenud üsna sarnaseks Euroopa riikide meediamaastikele."
(mitte, et see nüüd ilmselgelt ainult positiive uudis oleks..)
http://www.meediakoolitajad.edu.ee/luhiulevaade-eesti-meediasusteemist/
Krooniaja uudist 2009:
Pideva languse tõusuteel
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/eesti/analuus-kuuldused-ajalehtede-kadumisest-on-ennatlikud?id=51173751
"Eesti ajalehtedel on praegu peaaegu poole vähem reklaamiraha kui viimastel aastatel.
See on sundinud ajalehti kõvasti kulusid kärpima. Kõigis toimetustes on luubiga üle loetud kõik väljaminekud ja kaalutud iga väiksemagi honorari ja komandeeringuraha maksmise hädavajalikkust. Äripäev, mis veel eelmisel aastal võttis üürile lisapinda ja renoveeris seda kaunimaks, otsib nüüd kuulutuste kaudu hoopis odavamat üüripinda.
Eesti trend ei erine mujal maailmas toimuvast. World Editors Forumi värskes aastaraportis „Trends in Newsrooms 2009” esitletud ülemaailmse uuringu kohaselt on majandusraskused ajakirjanike arvates kõige suurem probleem, mis ületab isegi igipõlise mure väljaannete sisulise kvaliteedi ja uudiste usaldusväärsuse pärast. Rohkem kui pooled küsitletud toimetajad nimetasid rahaliselt raskeid olusid „ajakirjanduse kõige olulisemaks probleemiks” – veel 2004. aastal arvas nii kolmandik ja 1999. aastal neljandik ajakirjanikke.
EMOR-i andmeil langes ajalehtede reklaamimaht selle aasta I kvartali kokkuvõttes 45 protsenti. Reklaamiturul tervikuna ongi 2009. aasta alguse seisuga kõige suuremad kaotajad ajalehed ja nende kõrval ajakirjad: kukkumine 48 protsenti. Tervikuna kahanes reklaamiturg I kvartalis 34 protsenti, kuid aasta lõpuks prognoositakse vähemalt 40-protsendist langust. See tähendab, et võrreldes eelmise aastaga kaob turult umbes 700 miljonit krooni reklaamiraha."
http://www.err.ee/597783/ajalehtede-tiraazid-kukuvad-paevaleht-kaotas-aastaga-veerandi-trukist
Alla oma hinna:
""See on täiesti teadlik otsus - lõpetasime ära lisatiraaži, sellega vähenes tasuta jagatavate paberlehtede hulk ja lõpetasime PM-i müügi alla omahinna. Kuna varem olid suured lisatiraažid, siis sellega hoiti numbreid üleval, aga leidsime, et see ei ole mõistlik, vaid mõistlik on teha kvaliteeti," selgitas Hussar."
// vaat milline mõistlik otsus, et alla oma hinna pole mõtet müüa..
2012:
"Võiks arvata, et Eesti meediasüsteem on saanud olulisi mõjutusi 50 okupatsiooniaastast, mil see oli üles ehitatud nõukogulikul viisil ja tugevalt kontrollitud. See arvamus ei pea täiel määral paika, meie meediasüsteem on 1990ndatel toimunud muutustest alates arenenud üsna sarnaseks Euroopa riikide meediamaastikele."
(mitte, et see nüüd ilmselgelt ainult positiive uudis oleks..)
http://www.meediakoolitajad.edu.ee/luhiulevaade-eesti-meediasusteemist/
Krooniaja uudist 2009:
Pideva languse tõusuteel
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/eesti/analuus-kuuldused-ajalehtede-kadumisest-on-ennatlikud?id=51173751
"Eesti ajalehtedel on praegu peaaegu poole vähem reklaamiraha kui viimastel aastatel.
See on sundinud ajalehti kõvasti kulusid kärpima. Kõigis toimetustes on luubiga üle loetud kõik väljaminekud ja kaalutud iga väiksemagi honorari ja komandeeringuraha maksmise hädavajalikkust. Äripäev, mis veel eelmisel aastal võttis üürile lisapinda ja renoveeris seda kaunimaks, otsib nüüd kuulutuste kaudu hoopis odavamat üüripinda.
Eesti trend ei erine mujal maailmas toimuvast. World Editors Forumi värskes aastaraportis „Trends in Newsrooms 2009” esitletud ülemaailmse uuringu kohaselt on majandusraskused ajakirjanike arvates kõige suurem probleem, mis ületab isegi igipõlise mure väljaannete sisulise kvaliteedi ja uudiste usaldusväärsuse pärast. Rohkem kui pooled küsitletud toimetajad nimetasid rahaliselt raskeid olusid „ajakirjanduse kõige olulisemaks probleemiks” – veel 2004. aastal arvas nii kolmandik ja 1999. aastal neljandik ajakirjanikke.
EMOR-i andmeil langes ajalehtede reklaamimaht selle aasta I kvartali kokkuvõttes 45 protsenti. Reklaamiturul tervikuna ongi 2009. aasta alguse seisuga kõige suuremad kaotajad ajalehed ja nende kõrval ajakirjad: kukkumine 48 protsenti. Tervikuna kahanes reklaamiturg I kvartalis 34 protsenti, kuid aasta lõpuks prognoositakse vähemalt 40-protsendist langust. See tähendab, et võrreldes eelmise aastaga kaob turult umbes 700 miljonit krooni reklaamiraha."
http://www.err.ee/597783/ajalehtede-tiraazid-kukuvad-paevaleht-kaotas-aastaga-veerandi-trukist
18 December 2017 16:31
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Nu kolme nelja põhilise lehe peale tuleb ikka 1r0 000 kuid noh, vb neid prinditakse rohkem kui loetakse,
http://www.eall.ee/tiraazhid/
Huvitav see.. ajaleht "Maa elu" on kaks korda suurem kui suurimad ajalehed, u 80 000.
Kuid eks hea oleks teada ka elektroonlist loetavust.
Kurb muidugi see, et Eetikakoodeks algab sõnaga "Demokraatia"
http://www.eall.ee/eetikakoodeks.html
http://www.eall.ee/tiraazhid/
Huvitav see.. ajaleht "Maa elu" on kaks korda suurem kui suurimad ajalehed, u 80 000.
Kuid eks hea oleks teada ka elektroonlist loetavust.
Kurb muidugi see, et Eetikakoodeks algab sõnaga "Demokraatia"
http://www.eall.ee/eetikakoodeks.html
http://www.eall.ee/tiraazhid/
18 December 2017 16:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Veel, Rahva Hääle kandjaid
http://objektiiv.ee/rahva-haal-mida-arvavad-meie-kaasteelised-rail-balticust/
"Aidake hoida töös tõeliselt sõltumatut meediat! Andke oma panus kohe täna!"
"Me kõik teame, et liberaalne peavoolumeedia propageerib perekondlike, rahvuslike, kristlike ja konservatiivsete põhimõtete suhtes vaenulikku ideoloogiat. Seepärast vajamegi sootuks teistsugust väljaannet, mis tegutseks kartmatult ja ausalt ning tõstaks poliitilisele korrektsusele ja ideoloogilisele diktatuurile vastandudes esile seda, mis on õige ja hea."
Yea hoopis teist sugust...
"Alajõe valimisvõitluses jäi peale Rahva Hääl – valimisliit, mille strateegiks ja taktikuks oli Vasknarva elanik Aleksandr Petuhhov, kes juurutab vallas esindusdemokraatia asemele otsedemokraatiat. Et rahva häält võetaks kuulda ka valimistevahelisel ajal. Kohalike omavalitsuste valimistel juhtub nii mõndag"
pr.pohjarannik.ee/?p=9538
"rahva tõeline hääl : aastaraamat 1995. Kirjastaja: [Duvalles]. Ilmumisaeg: 1996. Ava otsing · Logi sisse · ENG · РУС · Logi sisse Rahvusraamatukogus · Ajakirjad 2017- Ajalehed 1821- vaata DIGARi Eesti artiklite portaalis..:"
www.digar.ee/arhiiv/et/raamatud?id=4815
// see üks oluline kogu kui see nüüd vee lpaari teise dimensiooni paisata uute tööriistadega..
https://www.postimees.ee/term/26686/rahva-haal
"Kallase déjà vu 1988. aastast.." (Eesti poliitika elava ajaloo esindaja Kallas on CV järgi otsustades kõige pädevam presidendikandidaat läbi aegade. Kuid Eesti poliitika Olümpose tippu saamine on tal pidevalt ebaõnnestunud..)
"Ühes asjas Graf oma raamatus küll eksib. Kallas ei olnud 1988. aastal Eesti NSV ametiühingujuht. Tollal 39-aastane Kallas oli siis veel EKP keskkomitee häälekandja, ajalehe Rahva Hääl peatoimetaja asetäitja ning laiemalt tuntud kui üks Isemajandava Eesti (IME) programmi autoreid koos Edgar Savisaare, Mikk Titma ja Tiit Madega.
Teatavasti Kreml tookord kuulas Sillarit ja määras EKP juhiks ikkagi Väljase."
https://www.postimees.ee/3846893/kallase-deja-vu-1988-aastast
Ja lõpetuseks:
Rahva hääl on Jumala hääl!
http://www.eestikirik.ee/rahva-haal-on-jumala-haal/
"...«Armastust – mida abstraktselt küll ülistatakse –, kiusatakse raevukalt taga niipea, kui see võtab konkreetse vormi, omandab keha ja nimetab end seksuaalsuseks, erotitsismiks. Seda rõõmu ja loovuse allikat, seda ülimat hüve, seda kõige hingava olemasolu õigustust jälitab kuratliku tigedusega kogu õigestimõtlev põhjakiht, nii ilmalik kui kiriklik.»
Michel Tournier’ romaani «Haldjakuningas» tegevus toimub eelmise sajandi kolmekümnendate aastate lõpu Ida-Preisimaal ja selle peategelane, kelle suhu tsiteeritud arvamusavaldus pandud, on nii kummaline sell, et tema juttu ei saa muidugi tõsiselt võtta …
Viimaste nädalate ärevusega seoses kurtis Priit Hõbemägi, et Eestis pole enam tegelikke arvamusliidreid nagu omal ajal Lennart Meri või Enn Soosaar, kelle järgi enamik suudaks ja tahaks joonduda. Ahto Lobjakas tõi samas seoses välja ohu, et enamus tõstetaksegi moraalseks autoriteediks, jõudes olukorda, millel alati nõrgemat poolt kaitsva demokraatiaga pole suurt pistmist."..
(kuid tasub meeles pidada, et ka :
"Ka Tallinnas on rahva hääl jumala hääl"
https://www.ohtuleht.ee/124692/ka-tallinnas-on-rahva-haal-jumala-haal )
http://objektiiv.ee/rahva-haal-mida-arvavad-meie-kaasteelised-rail-balticust/
"Aidake hoida töös tõeliselt sõltumatut meediat! Andke oma panus kohe täna!"
"Me kõik teame, et liberaalne peavoolumeedia propageerib perekondlike, rahvuslike, kristlike ja konservatiivsete põhimõtete suhtes vaenulikku ideoloogiat. Seepärast vajamegi sootuks teistsugust väljaannet, mis tegutseks kartmatult ja ausalt ning tõstaks poliitilisele korrektsusele ja ideoloogilisele diktatuurile vastandudes esile seda, mis on õige ja hea."
Yea hoopis teist sugust...
"Alajõe valimisvõitluses jäi peale Rahva Hääl – valimisliit, mille strateegiks ja taktikuks oli Vasknarva elanik Aleksandr Petuhhov, kes juurutab vallas esindusdemokraatia asemele otsedemokraatiat. Et rahva häält võetaks kuulda ka valimistevahelisel ajal. Kohalike omavalitsuste valimistel juhtub nii mõndag"
pr.pohjarannik.ee/?p=9538
"rahva tõeline hääl : aastaraamat 1995. Kirjastaja: [Duvalles]. Ilmumisaeg: 1996. Ava otsing · Logi sisse · ENG · РУС · Logi sisse Rahvusraamatukogus · Ajakirjad 2017- Ajalehed 1821- vaata DIGARi Eesti artiklite portaalis..:"
www.digar.ee/arhiiv/et/raamatud?id=4815
// see üks oluline kogu kui see nüüd vee lpaari teise dimensiooni paisata uute tööriistadega..
https://www.postimees.ee/term/26686/rahva-haal
"Kallase déjà vu 1988. aastast.." (Eesti poliitika elava ajaloo esindaja Kallas on CV järgi otsustades kõige pädevam presidendikandidaat läbi aegade. Kuid Eesti poliitika Olümpose tippu saamine on tal pidevalt ebaõnnestunud..)
"Ühes asjas Graf oma raamatus küll eksib. Kallas ei olnud 1988. aastal Eesti NSV ametiühingujuht. Tollal 39-aastane Kallas oli siis veel EKP keskkomitee häälekandja, ajalehe Rahva Hääl peatoimetaja asetäitja ning laiemalt tuntud kui üks Isemajandava Eesti (IME) programmi autoreid koos Edgar Savisaare, Mikk Titma ja Tiit Madega.
Teatavasti Kreml tookord kuulas Sillarit ja määras EKP juhiks ikkagi Väljase."
https://www.postimees.ee/3846893/kallase-deja-vu-1988-aastast
Ja lõpetuseks:
Rahva hääl on Jumala hääl!
http://www.eestikirik.ee/rahva-haal-on-jumala-haal/
"...«Armastust – mida abstraktselt küll ülistatakse –, kiusatakse raevukalt taga niipea, kui see võtab konkreetse vormi, omandab keha ja nimetab end seksuaalsuseks, erotitsismiks. Seda rõõmu ja loovuse allikat, seda ülimat hüve, seda kõige hingava olemasolu õigustust jälitab kuratliku tigedusega kogu õigestimõtlev põhjakiht, nii ilmalik kui kiriklik.»
Michel Tournier’ romaani «Haldjakuningas» tegevus toimub eelmise sajandi kolmekümnendate aastate lõpu Ida-Preisimaal ja selle peategelane, kelle suhu tsiteeritud arvamusavaldus pandud, on nii kummaline sell, et tema juttu ei saa muidugi tõsiselt võtta …
Viimaste nädalate ärevusega seoses kurtis Priit Hõbemägi, et Eestis pole enam tegelikke arvamusliidreid nagu omal ajal Lennart Meri või Enn Soosaar, kelle järgi enamik suudaks ja tahaks joonduda. Ahto Lobjakas tõi samas seoses välja ohu, et enamus tõstetaksegi moraalseks autoriteediks, jõudes olukorda, millel alati nõrgemat poolt kaitsva demokraatiaga pole suurt pistmist."..
(kuid tasub meeles pidada, et ka :
"Ka Tallinnas on rahva hääl jumala hääl"
https://www.ohtuleht.ee/124692/ka-tallinnas-on-rahva-haal-jumala-haal )
http://objektiiv.ee/rahva-haal-mida-arvavad-meie-kaasteelised-rail-balticust/
17 December 2017 19:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ajast ette, 2007 st filosofeerides 2020 s
50-aastase Euroopa Liidu moodustavad 27 liikmesriiki umbes viiesaja miljoni elanikuga, kellest igaühel on oma mõtted ja ettekujutused tulevikust ning maailmast. Kuidas kuulda üksikisikut, tema soove ja nõudmisi, kui liidu keskpunkt on Brüssel - kauge ja abstraktne bürokraatlik paik? Brüsselist on üheks lahenduseks pakutud liikmesriikide kodanike foorumeid. Mida ootab Euroopa Liidu kodanik aastalt 2020? Autor Helle Tiikmaa, režissöör Eva Katariina Taimre.
https://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/teateid-tegelikkusest-rahva-haal
50-aastase Euroopa Liidu moodustavad 27 liikmesriiki umbes viiesaja miljoni elanikuga, kellest igaühel on oma mõtted ja ettekujutused tulevikust ning maailmast. Kuidas kuulda üksikisikut, tema soove ja nõudmisi, kui liidu keskpunkt on Brüssel - kauge ja abstraktne bürokraatlik paik? Brüsselist on üheks lahenduseks pakutud liikmesriikide kodanike foorumeid. Mida ootab Euroopa Liidu kodanik aastalt 2020? Autor Helle Tiikmaa, režissöör Eva Katariina Taimre.
https://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/teateid-tegelikkusest-rahva-haal
https://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/teateid-tegelikkusest-rahva-haal
17 December 2017 18:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Toimetaja Uku Toom. Ajalehe Rahva Hääl staatuse muutmine. Riina Eentalu intervjuud Aadu Hiietamme (telefoniintervjuu) ja Tiit Sinissaarega. Kavas 23.03.1995. VAS-3550.6
https://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/uudised-ajalehe-rahva-haal-staatuse-muutmine
https://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/uudised-ajalehe-rahva-haal-staatuse-muutmine
https://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/uudised-ajalehe-rahva-haal-staatuse-muutmine
17 December 2017 18:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja veel: b15089836
Tõde Kodumaalt : Rahva Hääle eriväljaanne välismaal viibivatele eestlastele
Tallinn : 1951-1953
b15750826: Tasuja : Punaarmeelaste ajaleht [249. eesti laskurdiviisi poliitosakonna väljaanne]
Tasuja : Punaarmee N väeosa ajaleht, 1942-1945
b15576309
Tee Kommunismile : Vihula Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Vihula (Lääne-Viru maakond) : 1951-1953
b15598639
Teel Kommunismile : Kuusalu Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Kuusalu (Harju maakond) : 1951-1953
b15598779
Tehnika Võit : Pärnu-Jaagupi Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Pärnu-Jaagupi (Pärnu maakond) : 1951-1953
b15598901
Teraskündja : Palamuse Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Palamuse (Jõgeva maakond) : 1951-1953
b15598998
Torma Stahhaanovlane : Torma Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Torma (Jõgeva maakond) : 1951-1953
65.b15599012
Traktor : Vastseliina Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Vastseliina (Võru maakond) : 1951-1953
b15599115
Traktorist : Viljandi Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Viljandi : 1951-1953
b15599188
Traktoristi Hääl : Tartu Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Tartu : 1951-1953
b15612235
Traktoristi Sõna : Raudna Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälkandja
Raudna (Viljandi maakond) : 1951-1953
b1524961x
Tõe Hääl : Välismaal Elavate Kaasmaalastega Kultuurisidemete Arendamise Nõukogu Komitee väljaanne
Tallinn, 1958-1963
b15333759
Töö Lipp : EKP Kiviõli Rajoonikomitee ja Kiviõli Rajooni TSN häälekandja
Kiviõli, 1955-1959
b11910021
Töörahva Elu : EKP Võru Rajoonikomitee ja Võru Rajooni Rahvasaadikute
Nõukogu häälekandja
Võru : 1940-1988
b13213842
Töörahva Hääl (Pärnu : 1940-1952)
Pärnu, 1940-1952
b11471931
Töörahva Lipp : EKP Haapsalu Rajoonikomitee ja Haapsalu Rajooni Rahvasaadikute Nõukogu häälekandja
Haapsalu : 1956-1988 (eelkäijad Läänlane ja Stalinlikul Teel)
b15612284
Uus Agrotehnika : Raasiku Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Raasiku (Harju maakond) : 1951-1953
b15612314
Uus Elu : Rakke Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Rakke (Lääne-Viru maakond) :1951-1953
b1524877x
Uus Elu : EKP Tõrva Rajoonikomitee ja Tõrva Rajooni TSN häälekandja
Tõrva : 1951-1959
b15617531
Uus Küla : Sipa Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Sipa (Rapla maakond) : 1951-1953
b15193937
Uus Tee : EKP Elva Rajoonikomitee ja Elva Rajooni TSN häälekandja
Elva, 1951-1962
b15617865
Uus Tee : Võnnu Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Võnnu (Tartu maakond) : 1951-1953
b15159632
Vahipostil : ENSV Siseministeeriumi häälekandja
Tallinn : 1953-1970
b1510915x
Valgamaalane : EK(b)P Valgamaa Komitee ja Valgamaa TSN häälekandja
Valga : 1944-1950
b1257207x
Valga Bolševik : EKP Valga Rajoonikomitee ja Valga Rajooni TSN häälekandja
Valga : 1950-1952
b12572305
Valga Kommunist : EKP Valga Rajoonikomitee ja Valga Rajooni TSN häälekandja
Valga, 1952-1962
b12363388
Viru Sõna : Lääne-Virumaa ajaleht
Rakvere, 1944-1950, 1988-1993
b15618080
Võit : Varstu Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Varstu (Võru maakond) : 1951-1953
b10731490
Ühistöö : Rapla maakonna ajaleht
Rapla : 1951-1995
b15618158
Ühistöö Jõud : Kanepi Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Kanepi (Põlva maakond) : 1951-1953
b15618225
Ühistöö Võit : Põltsamaa Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Põltsamaa (Jõgeva maakond) : 1951-1953
b15859526
Балтиец : орган парт. организации, управление и постройкома Таллинского общестроительного треста городского строительства, Управления строительства Совнархоза Эстонского ССР
Baltilane : ehitusvalitsuse ja poliitosakonna häälekandja, 1945- 1946
b15338770
Знамя Труда : орган Кивиылиского районного комитета Коммунистической партии Эстонии и районного Совета депутатов трудящихся
Кивиыли, 1955-1959
b1528511x
Ленинское знамя : орган Кохтла-Ярвеского городского и районого комитетов Компартии Эстоний, городского и районного Советов народных депутатов
Кохтла-Ярве, 1960-1990
b10726214
Молодежь Эстонии
Tallinn,1956-1999
b14485448
Моряк Эстонии : газета Эстонского морского пароходства
Таллинн : 1967-1993
b15853032
Мотогонки : о соревнованиях на первенство СССР по мотоспорту
Tallinn, 1949-1951
b15278475
На Страже : орган Министерства внутренних дел ЭССР
Таллинн, 1953-1970
b15217942
Нарвский Рабочий : орган Нарвского городского комитета КП Эстонии и городского Совета народных депутатов
Нарва : 1945-1990
b15379152
Путь Социализма : Орган Кохтла-Ярвеского ГК КП Эстонии и Кохтла-
Ярвеского горсовета
Йыхви : 1949-1960
b15340806
Рыбак Эстонии : орган партийного и профсоюзного комитетoв, управления и комитета комсомола Эстонского рыбопромышленного производственного объединения [Эстрыбпром] Океан
Таллинн : 1962-1992
b14882176
Сигнал : орган Министерства автомобильного транспорта и шоссейных дорог и Эстонской ССР и Республиканского комитета Профсоюза рабочих Автотранспорта шоссейных дорог
Таллинн, 1968-1970
b15177907
Советская Деревня : орган Калластеского районного комитета КП Эстонии и Калластеского районного Совета депутатов трудящихся
Калласте, 1951, 1957-1959
b14473306
Советская Эстония
Таллинн : 1940-1991
b1181763x
Сталинская Молодeжь
Tallinn : 1950-1956
b15232074
Стахановский Труд : орган Кивиылиского районного комитета Коммунистической партии Эстонии и районного Совета депутатов трудящихся
Кивиыли, 1951-1955
b15281176
Строитель : орган Министерства строительства и Респуликанского комитета Профсоюза рабочих строительства и промышленности стройматериалов ЭССР
Таллинн, 1957-1970
b15866488
Строитель Эстонской ГРЭС : орган парткома, объединенного профкома, комитета комсомола и администрации СУ Эстонской ГРЭС
Narva, 1958-1991
b15295825
Шахтер : орган Кохтла-Ярвеского ГК КП Эстонии и горсовета
Кохтла-Ярве, 1947-1960
Tõde Kodumaalt : Rahva Hääle eriväljaanne välismaal viibivatele eestlastele
Tallinn : 1951-1953
b15750826: Tasuja : Punaarmeelaste ajaleht [249. eesti laskurdiviisi poliitosakonna väljaanne]
Tasuja : Punaarmee N väeosa ajaleht, 1942-1945
b15576309
Tee Kommunismile : Vihula Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Vihula (Lääne-Viru maakond) : 1951-1953
b15598639
Teel Kommunismile : Kuusalu Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Kuusalu (Harju maakond) : 1951-1953
b15598779
Tehnika Võit : Pärnu-Jaagupi Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Pärnu-Jaagupi (Pärnu maakond) : 1951-1953
b15598901
Teraskündja : Palamuse Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Palamuse (Jõgeva maakond) : 1951-1953
b15598998
Torma Stahhaanovlane : Torma Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Torma (Jõgeva maakond) : 1951-1953
65.b15599012
Traktor : Vastseliina Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Vastseliina (Võru maakond) : 1951-1953
b15599115
Traktorist : Viljandi Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Viljandi : 1951-1953
b15599188
Traktoristi Hääl : Tartu Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Tartu : 1951-1953
b15612235
Traktoristi Sõna : Raudna Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälkandja
Raudna (Viljandi maakond) : 1951-1953
b1524961x
Tõe Hääl : Välismaal Elavate Kaasmaalastega Kultuurisidemete Arendamise Nõukogu Komitee väljaanne
Tallinn, 1958-1963
b15333759
Töö Lipp : EKP Kiviõli Rajoonikomitee ja Kiviõli Rajooni TSN häälekandja
Kiviõli, 1955-1959
b11910021
Töörahva Elu : EKP Võru Rajoonikomitee ja Võru Rajooni Rahvasaadikute
Nõukogu häälekandja
Võru : 1940-1988
b13213842
Töörahva Hääl (Pärnu : 1940-1952)
Pärnu, 1940-1952
b11471931
Töörahva Lipp : EKP Haapsalu Rajoonikomitee ja Haapsalu Rajooni Rahvasaadikute Nõukogu häälekandja
Haapsalu : 1956-1988 (eelkäijad Läänlane ja Stalinlikul Teel)
b15612284
Uus Agrotehnika : Raasiku Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Raasiku (Harju maakond) : 1951-1953
b15612314
Uus Elu : Rakke Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Rakke (Lääne-Viru maakond) :1951-1953
b1524877x
Uus Elu : EKP Tõrva Rajoonikomitee ja Tõrva Rajooni TSN häälekandja
Tõrva : 1951-1959
b15617531
Uus Küla : Sipa Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Sipa (Rapla maakond) : 1951-1953
b15193937
Uus Tee : EKP Elva Rajoonikomitee ja Elva Rajooni TSN häälekandja
Elva, 1951-1962
b15617865
Uus Tee : Võnnu Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Võnnu (Tartu maakond) : 1951-1953
b15159632
Vahipostil : ENSV Siseministeeriumi häälekandja
Tallinn : 1953-1970
b1510915x
Valgamaalane : EK(b)P Valgamaa Komitee ja Valgamaa TSN häälekandja
Valga : 1944-1950
b1257207x
Valga Bolševik : EKP Valga Rajoonikomitee ja Valga Rajooni TSN häälekandja
Valga : 1950-1952
b12572305
Valga Kommunist : EKP Valga Rajoonikomitee ja Valga Rajooni TSN häälekandja
Valga, 1952-1962
b12363388
Viru Sõna : Lääne-Virumaa ajaleht
Rakvere, 1944-1950, 1988-1993
b15618080
Võit : Varstu Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Varstu (Võru maakond) : 1951-1953
b10731490
Ühistöö : Rapla maakonna ajaleht
Rapla : 1951-1995
b15618158
Ühistöö Jõud : Kanepi Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Kanepi (Põlva maakond) : 1951-1953
b15618225
Ühistöö Võit : Põltsamaa Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Põltsamaa (Jõgeva maakond) : 1951-1953
b15859526
Балтиец : орган парт. организации, управление и постройкома Таллинского общестроительного треста городского строительства, Управления строительства Совнархоза Эстонского ССР
Baltilane : ehitusvalitsuse ja poliitosakonna häälekandja, 1945- 1946
b15338770
Знамя Труда : орган Кивиылиского районного комитета Коммунистической партии Эстонии и районного Совета депутатов трудящихся
Кивиыли, 1955-1959
b1528511x
Ленинское знамя : орган Кохтла-Ярвеского городского и районого комитетов Компартии Эстоний, городского и районного Советов народных депутатов
Кохтла-Ярве, 1960-1990
b10726214
Молодежь Эстонии
Tallinn,1956-1999
b14485448
Моряк Эстонии : газета Эстонского морского пароходства
Таллинн : 1967-1993
b15853032
Мотогонки : о соревнованиях на первенство СССР по мотоспорту
Tallinn, 1949-1951
b15278475
На Страже : орган Министерства внутренних дел ЭССР
Таллинн, 1953-1970
b15217942
Нарвский Рабочий : орган Нарвского городского комитета КП Эстонии и городского Совета народных депутатов
Нарва : 1945-1990
b15379152
Путь Социализма : Орган Кохтла-Ярвеского ГК КП Эстонии и Кохтла-
Ярвеского горсовета
Йыхви : 1949-1960
b15340806
Рыбак Эстонии : орган партийного и профсоюзного комитетoв, управления и комитета комсомола Эстонского рыбопромышленного производственного объединения [Эстрыбпром] Океан
Таллинн : 1962-1992
b14882176
Сигнал : орган Министерства автомобильного транспорта и шоссейных дорог и Эстонской ССР и Республиканского комитета Профсоюза рабочих Автотранспорта шоссейных дорог
Таллинн, 1968-1970
b15177907
Советская Деревня : орган Калластеского районного комитета КП Эстонии и Калластеского районного Совета депутатов трудящихся
Калласте, 1951, 1957-1959
b14473306
Советская Эстония
Таллинн : 1940-1991
b1181763x
Сталинская Молодeжь
Tallinn : 1950-1956
b15232074
Стахановский Труд : орган Кивиылиского районного комитета Коммунистической партии Эстонии и районного Совета депутатов трудящихся
Кивиыли, 1951-1955
b15281176
Строитель : орган Министерства строительства и Респуликанского комитета Профсоюза рабочих строительства и промышленности стройматериалов ЭССР
Таллинн, 1957-1970
b15866488
Строитель Эстонской ГРЭС : орган парткома, объединенного профкома, комитета комсомола и администрации СУ Эстонской ГРЭС
Narva, 1958-1991
b15295825
Шахтер : орган Кохтла-Ярвеского ГК КП Эстонии и горсовета
Кохтла-Ярве, 1947-1960
17 December 2017 18:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Asi pole ainult selles, kas see kõik olemas on... kuid KUIDAS ta on, kudas see info tänapäevaselt mõistetavaks, arusaadavaks, elektrooniliste kihtidena elavaks ja info linkide, tagidega sorteeritavaks tehtud..
küll saab
https://www.nlib.ee/peale-1945a-ilmunud-eesti-ajalehed/
81 nimetust
b15151384
Kommunaar : EKP Abja Rajoonikomitee ja Abja Rajooni TSN häälekandja
Abja, 1951-1962
b12572457
Kommunist : EKP Valga Rajoonikomitee ja Valga Rajooni RSN häälekandja
Valga : 1963-1988
12306836
Leninlik Lipp
Kohtla-Järve : 1960-1990
b13207635
Narva Tööline
Narva, 1940-1962
b12363492
Punane Täht
Rakvere : 1950-1988
b14202347
Punaväelane : Punaarmee [7.laskurdiviisi] poliitosakonna ajaleht
[S.l.] : 7.laskurdiviis, 1942-1947
b12329113
Põllumajanduse Akadeemia : Eesti Põllumajanduse Akadeemi parteikomitee, rektoraadi, komsomolikomitee ja ametiühingukomitee häälekandja
Tartu : 1957-1991
b10727954
Põllumajandusülikool
Tartu :1991-2001
b14713160
Pärnu Kommunist
Pärnu : 1952-1988
b12158860
Raadio ja Televisiooni Saatekava
Tallinn : 1956-1961
b1072817x
Raadioleht : Eesti Raadio nädalaleht
Tallinn : 1962-1995
b12772318
Rapla Novaator : Rapla Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Rapla : 1951-1953
b15522878
Saue Traktorist : Saue Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Saue (Harju maakond) : 1951-1953
b1488228
Signaal : ENSV Autotranspordi ja Maanteede Ministeeriumi ning Autotranspordi- ja Maanteetööliste Ametiühingu Vabariikliku Komitee häälekandja
Tallinn, 1968-1970
b15523275
Sotsialismi Tee : Audru Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Audru (Pärnu maakond) : 1951-1953
b12306903
Sotsialismi Tee
Jõhvi : 1949-1960
b1552338x
Sotsialismi Võit : Suure-Jaani Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Suure-Jaani (Viljandi maakond) : 1951-1953
b14731381
Sotsialismi Võit : EKP Vändra Rajoonikomitee ja Vändra Rajooni Töörahva Saadikute Nõukogu häälekandja
Vändra, 1951-1962
b15001337
Sotsialistlik Küla : Eestimaa KP Kose Rajoonikomitee ja Kose Rajooni TSN häälekandja
Kose (Harju maakond) : 1951-1959
b15146613
Sotsialistlik Räpina : Eestimaa KP Räpina Rajoonikomitee ja Räpina Rajooni TSN
häälekandja
Räpina (Põlva maakond) : 1951-1961
b15523597
Stahhaanovlane : Rannu Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Rannu (Tartu maakond) : 1951-1953
b15231124
Stahhaanovlik Töö :EKP Kiviõli Rajoonikomitee ja Kiviõli Rajooni TSN häälekandja
Kiviõli, 1951-1955
b15523846
Stahhaanovlik Töö : Pikajärve Masina-Traktorijaama poliitsoakonna häälekandja
Antsla (Võru maakond) : 1951-1953
b15523986
Stalinlane : Lüganuse Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Lüganuse (Ida-Viru maakond) : 1951-1953
b15543043
Stalinlik Saak : Keeni Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Keeni (Valga maakond) : 1951-1953
b15543134
Stalinlik Sõprus : Juuru Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Juuru (Rapla maakond) : 1951-1953
b1555661x
Stalinlik Võit : Jõgeva Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Jõgeva : 1951-1953
b12290014
Säde
Tallinn, 1946-1990
b15576115
Säde : Kadrina Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Kadrina (Lääne-Viru maakond) : 1951-1953
b15576279
Taebla Traktorist : Taebla Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Taebla (Lääne maakond) : 1951-1953
b12547086
Tallinna Polütehnik : TPI parteikomitee, rektoraadi, komsomolikomitee,
ametiühingukomitee häälekandja
Tallinn, 1949-1989
b15248562
Talurahvaleht :EK(b)P KK ja ENSV töörahva saadikute nõukogude häälekandja
Tallinn : 1944-1951
küll saab
https://www.nlib.ee/peale-1945a-ilmunud-eesti-ajalehed/
81 nimetust
b15151384
Kommunaar : EKP Abja Rajoonikomitee ja Abja Rajooni TSN häälekandja
Abja, 1951-1962
b12572457
Kommunist : EKP Valga Rajoonikomitee ja Valga Rajooni RSN häälekandja
Valga : 1963-1988
12306836
Leninlik Lipp
Kohtla-Järve : 1960-1990
b13207635
Narva Tööline
Narva, 1940-1962
b12363492
Punane Täht
Rakvere : 1950-1988
b14202347
Punaväelane : Punaarmee [7.laskurdiviisi] poliitosakonna ajaleht
[S.l.] : 7.laskurdiviis, 1942-1947
b12329113
Põllumajanduse Akadeemia : Eesti Põllumajanduse Akadeemi parteikomitee, rektoraadi, komsomolikomitee ja ametiühingukomitee häälekandja
Tartu : 1957-1991
b10727954
Põllumajandusülikool
Tartu :1991-2001
b14713160
Pärnu Kommunist
Pärnu : 1952-1988
b12158860
Raadio ja Televisiooni Saatekava
Tallinn : 1956-1961
b1072817x
Raadioleht : Eesti Raadio nädalaleht
Tallinn : 1962-1995
b12772318
Rapla Novaator : Rapla Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Rapla : 1951-1953
b15522878
Saue Traktorist : Saue Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Saue (Harju maakond) : 1951-1953
b1488228
Signaal : ENSV Autotranspordi ja Maanteede Ministeeriumi ning Autotranspordi- ja Maanteetööliste Ametiühingu Vabariikliku Komitee häälekandja
Tallinn, 1968-1970
b15523275
Sotsialismi Tee : Audru Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Audru (Pärnu maakond) : 1951-1953
b12306903
Sotsialismi Tee
Jõhvi : 1949-1960
b1552338x
Sotsialismi Võit : Suure-Jaani Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Suure-Jaani (Viljandi maakond) : 1951-1953
b14731381
Sotsialismi Võit : EKP Vändra Rajoonikomitee ja Vändra Rajooni Töörahva Saadikute Nõukogu häälekandja
Vändra, 1951-1962
b15001337
Sotsialistlik Küla : Eestimaa KP Kose Rajoonikomitee ja Kose Rajooni TSN häälekandja
Kose (Harju maakond) : 1951-1959
b15146613
Sotsialistlik Räpina : Eestimaa KP Räpina Rajoonikomitee ja Räpina Rajooni TSN
häälekandja
Räpina (Põlva maakond) : 1951-1961
b15523597
Stahhaanovlane : Rannu Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Rannu (Tartu maakond) : 1951-1953
b15231124
Stahhaanovlik Töö :EKP Kiviõli Rajoonikomitee ja Kiviõli Rajooni TSN häälekandja
Kiviõli, 1951-1955
b15523846
Stahhaanovlik Töö : Pikajärve Masina-Traktorijaama poliitsoakonna häälekandja
Antsla (Võru maakond) : 1951-1953
b15523986
Stalinlane : Lüganuse Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Lüganuse (Ida-Viru maakond) : 1951-1953
b15543043
Stalinlik Saak : Keeni Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Keeni (Valga maakond) : 1951-1953
b15543134
Stalinlik Sõprus : Juuru Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Juuru (Rapla maakond) : 1951-1953
b1555661x
Stalinlik Võit : Jõgeva Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Jõgeva : 1951-1953
b12290014
Säde
Tallinn, 1946-1990
b15576115
Säde : Kadrina Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Kadrina (Lääne-Viru maakond) : 1951-1953
b15576279
Taebla Traktorist : Taebla Masina-Traktorijaama poliitosakonna häälekandja
Taebla (Lääne maakond) : 1951-1953
b12547086
Tallinna Polütehnik : TPI parteikomitee, rektoraadi, komsomolikomitee,
ametiühingukomitee häälekandja
Tallinn, 1949-1989
b15248562
Talurahvaleht :EK(b)P KK ja ENSV töörahva saadikute nõukogude häälekandja
Tallinn : 1944-1951
https://www.nlib.ee/peale-1945a-ilmunud-eesti-ajalehed/
17 December 2017 18:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Oi.. näe rahvahääl täitsa oelmas...
http://rahvahaal.delfi.ee/
http://rahvahaal.delfi.ee/
http://rahvahaal.delfi.ee/
17 December 2017 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Eks mitmed suured plaanid ole kuni 2020 dani..
17 December 2017 18:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"ammu juba"
17 December 2017 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kuid müügi tulemusi ja kasve möödetakse ikka samamoodi, protsentide ja turgude suurenemise kaudu..
17 December 2017 18:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Today, the West's relations with post-communist Russia and its aggressive leader, Vladimir Putin, are strained. Bombers and spy planes nudge rival air space, testing nerves, just as they did in the early 1980s. The situation is ripe for misunderstandings.
Those events, 24 years ago, are also a reminder that, for all the concerns about global warning, mankind's greatest danger may still be its vast nuclear arsenals.
It has largely gone unnoticed that this year, with increasing fears of proliferation, the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists moved its Doomsday Clock up to five minutes to midnight, closer to nuclear catastrophe than at almost any time since the phoney war of 1983.
1983: The Brink Of Apocalypse is on Channel 4 on Saturday January 5, at
Those events, 24 years ago, are also a reminder that, for all the concerns about global warning, mankind's greatest danger may still be its vast nuclear arsenals.
It has largely gone unnoticed that this year, with increasing fears of proliferation, the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists moved its Doomsday Clock up to five minutes to midnight, closer to nuclear catastrophe than at almost any time since the phoney war of 1983.
1983: The Brink Of Apocalypse is on Channel 4 on Saturday January 5, at
17 December 2017 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja õnnetusi ikka juhtub,...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-505009/September-26th-1983-The-day-world-died.html
"Stanislav Petrov, a lieutenant-colonel in the military intelligence section of the Soviet Union's secret service, reluctantly eased himself into the commander's seat in the underground early warning bunker south of Moscow.
It should have been his night off but another officer had gone sick and he had been summoned at the last minute.
Before him were screens showing photographs of underground missile silos in the Midwest prairies of America, relayed from spy satellites in the sky.
He and his men watched and listened on headphones for any sign of movement - anything unusual that might suggest the U.S. was launching a nuclear attack...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-505009/September-26th-1983-The-day-world-died.html
"Stanislav Petrov, a lieutenant-colonel in the military intelligence section of the Soviet Union's secret service, reluctantly eased himself into the commander's seat in the underground early warning bunker south of Moscow.
It should have been his night off but another officer had gone sick and he had been summoned at the last minute.
Before him were screens showing photographs of underground missile silos in the Midwest prairies of America, relayed from spy satellites in the sky.
He and his men watched and listened on headphones for any sign of movement - anything unusual that might suggest the U.S. was launching a nuclear attack...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-505009/September-26th-1983-The-day-world-died.html
17 December 2017 17:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. Või, et ameerika vaimude öö...
https://youtu.be/hgcUjlLFxmc
Rahva Hääl, 1940–95 ilmunud päevaleht, Eesti suurimaid. Hakkas ilmuma 22. VI 1940 Eestimaa Kommunistliku (bolševike) Partei poolt üle võetud ajalehe Uus Eesti asemel. Teise maailmasõja ajal ilmus Leningradis ja Moskvas (1–2 korda nädalas), 1944. aasta septembris Võrus. 1942–90 oli Rahva Hääl Nõukogude okupatsioonivõimude, 1990–91 Eesti Vabariigi Ülemnõukogu ja valitsuse häälekandja, aastast 1992 riiklik aktsiaselts (trükiarv 1991. aastal 80 000, 1993. aastal 55 000). Nõukogude ajal ilmus ajalehel mitu lisa ja eriväljaannet. 1990–94 ilmus lisana nädalaleht Vaatleja, 1994–95 laupäevalisa Tasub Teada. Ühines 1995 Hommikulehe ja Päevalehega Eesti Päevaleheks.
https://youtu.be/hgcUjlLFxmc
Rahva Hääl, 1940–95 ilmunud päevaleht, Eesti suurimaid. Hakkas ilmuma 22. VI 1940 Eestimaa Kommunistliku (bolševike) Partei poolt üle võetud ajalehe Uus Eesti asemel. Teise maailmasõja ajal ilmus Leningradis ja Moskvas (1–2 korda nädalas), 1944. aasta septembris Võrus. 1942–90 oli Rahva Hääl Nõukogude okupatsioonivõimude, 1990–91 Eesti Vabariigi Ülemnõukogu ja valitsuse häälekandja, aastast 1992 riiklik aktsiaselts (trükiarv 1991. aastal 80 000, 1993. aastal 55 000). Nõukogude ajal ilmus ajalehel mitu lisa ja eriväljaannet. 1990–94 ilmus lisana nädalaleht Vaatleja, 1994–95 laupäevalisa Tasub Teada. Ühines 1995 Hommikulehe ja Päevalehega Eesti Päevaleheks.
https://youtu.be/hgcUjlLFxmc
17 December 2017 17:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Informatiivsem oli see leht kindlasti kui enamus praegused mida näha, see kõigest kahe lehekülje lehe peale kokku, need pealkirjad
17 December 2017 17:53
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
What we should do, is to use their few times, they do use common sense,and be sensire, as we think they are for it really.. and push it..
as this is about as little air time and in frames that we can hope to get, air time, for topics as that
as this is about as little air time and in frames that we can hope to get, air time, for topics as that
17 December 2017 17:17
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
Bernardo Terenzi True
17 December 2017 17:16
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
Isiklikust elust teema kohast..
Filipiini tuttav naine, siiralt arvas, et ma nalja tegin kui ütlesin, et naised euroopas raseerivad,
(uurisin kuidas tal nii,.. kõik kenasti hooldatud kogu keha ja ... ta ütles, et
ta kunagi pole midagi "hooldanud" ... naise ilu põõsaski oli nagu pildiraamatus )
Ta siiralt ei teadnud, ja polnud varem kuulnud,et naistel karvad jalgadel v kaenlaa all kasvavad (ega see mind häirigi, häirivad pigeb ajamine ja teravad konsud..),
muidugi ta polnud ka kunagi tampooni kasutanud (ei teadnud kuidas) ega blondeerinud... ja tema veel see linna inimene, kes lääne maailmaga palju kontaktis.
Mõtlesin siin... et kas ehk on sedasi, et... siin midagi olulist, vb toitumine, mõtlemine.. või otseselt liigi erinevus nii suur ?
Muidugi naiselikuse parameetrites ka igal alal (mänulisus, kodu tarkused, hoolivus, loovus, säravus, "peavalu" mõteteni lähedalegi kordagi ei jõudnud pigem vastupidi.. ja ka siis mitte kunagi eitehtud mõrudat meelt ega sapist kommentaare ega tujutsemist,...
ja lisaks veel äri meelsus (mis arvatakse ekslikult mehe ala olema ainult..) ning tugev kahejalaga maapeal olemine, teamdine mis on sobilik ja mis mitte, ja mitte millegist midagi ilusat võlumine olid kõik see mis oli "tavalaine" ... ja kuigi ju ta võis olla natuke erilisem, siis iialgi isegi kaudselt ei olnud näha upsakust ega enese "eriliseks" teadvustamine, ja tundus, et sellised naised suures osas tollel maal ongi erinevusega nende osas kelle hingesisse juba pahad ussid olid pääsenud kuid neil oli enemasti näost üleliigse meigi jms olekuga kaugelt näha ).
Ainuke asi mis puudu lõunamaa naistel, on põhjmaa kargus ja mingisugune veel suurem "kuningannalikus", näpud mullas & võlurohtude teadmised, poliitiline teadlikus ja huvi, vähe ütlemisega palju teravat tarkust öeldes... sügavalt sisse minek eri dimensioonidesse.. mingisugune teistsugune tugevus ja kindlus, nimetan seda põhjamaa karguseks, peaaegu, et liiga magus ja meeldiv on soojamaa daamid.
Kuid hetke mõtlesin lihtsaltselle karvakasvu osas, et kas see on alati sedasi olnud, et meie vana vana rahval, enne siinseid sõjaaaegu oli karvkasv sama mis praegu või on see erinev olnud 1000 aastase periooditi ?
Filipiini tuttav naine, siiralt arvas, et ma nalja tegin kui ütlesin, et naised euroopas raseerivad,
(uurisin kuidas tal nii,.. kõik kenasti hooldatud kogu keha ja ... ta ütles, et
ta kunagi pole midagi "hooldanud" ... naise ilu põõsaski oli nagu pildiraamatus )
Ta siiralt ei teadnud, ja polnud varem kuulnud,et naistel karvad jalgadel v kaenlaa all kasvavad (ega see mind häirigi, häirivad pigeb ajamine ja teravad konsud..),
muidugi ta polnud ka kunagi tampooni kasutanud (ei teadnud kuidas) ega blondeerinud... ja tema veel see linna inimene, kes lääne maailmaga palju kontaktis.
Mõtlesin siin... et kas ehk on sedasi, et... siin midagi olulist, vb toitumine, mõtlemine.. või otseselt liigi erinevus nii suur ?
Muidugi naiselikuse parameetrites ka igal alal (mänulisus, kodu tarkused, hoolivus, loovus, säravus, "peavalu" mõteteni lähedalegi kordagi ei jõudnud pigem vastupidi.. ja ka siis mitte kunagi eitehtud mõrudat meelt ega sapist kommentaare ega tujutsemist,...
ja lisaks veel äri meelsus (mis arvatakse ekslikult mehe ala olema ainult..) ning tugev kahejalaga maapeal olemine, teamdine mis on sobilik ja mis mitte, ja mitte millegist midagi ilusat võlumine olid kõik see mis oli "tavalaine" ... ja kuigi ju ta võis olla natuke erilisem, siis iialgi isegi kaudselt ei olnud näha upsakust ega enese "eriliseks" teadvustamine, ja tundus, et sellised naised suures osas tollel maal ongi erinevusega nende osas kelle hingesisse juba pahad ussid olid pääsenud kuid neil oli enemasti näost üleliigse meigi jms olekuga kaugelt näha ).
Ainuke asi mis puudu lõunamaa naistel, on põhjmaa kargus ja mingisugune veel suurem "kuningannalikus", näpud mullas & võlurohtude teadmised, poliitiline teadlikus ja huvi, vähe ütlemisega palju teravat tarkust öeldes... sügavalt sisse minek eri dimensioonidesse.. mingisugune teistsugune tugevus ja kindlus, nimetan seda põhjamaa karguseks, peaaegu, et liiga magus ja meeldiv on soojamaa daamid.
Kuid hetke mõtlesin lihtsaltselle karvakasvu osas, et kas see on alati sedasi olnud, et meie vana vana rahval, enne siinseid sõjaaaegu oli karvkasv sama mis praegu või on see erinev olnud 1000 aastase periooditi ?
17 December 2017 16:50
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
eks kui mitte puu otsa, siis puu sisse, puuga üheks
17 December 2017 16:35
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
Good to know!
16 December 2017 18:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Surprisingly pleasant site the Inverse, for something that appeared just surface pop news at first
--
Still not a independent, but still, near good another way, some ways better
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/net-neutrality-what-to-do-stop-save-the-internet-open-freedom-fcc-ajit-pai-a8112241.html
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Still not a independent, but still, near good another way, some ways better
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/net-neutrality-what-to-do-stop-save-the-internet-open-freedom-fcc-ajit-pai-a8112241.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/net-neutrality-what-to-do-stop-save-the-internet-open-freedom-fcc-ajit-pai-a8112241.html
16 December 2017 16:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
While citizens, activists and tech giants have been quick to unite to protest the FCC’s plan to kill net neutrality, politicians are noticeably split down party lines on the issue. But Republican Senator Susan Collins broke from her fellow GOP lawmakers Friday to voice her support for a free and open internet.
Collins says that “internet providers must not manage their system in an anti-competitive way that limits consumers’ choices,” reported the Bangor Daily News.
Although Congress doesn’t have a direct say in the FCC’s decision on December 14, Collins’ actions could potentially dishevel the appearance of unity behind Donald Trump and his appointed FCC Commisioner, Ajit Pai. It wouldn’t be the first time that Collins has spurred other Republicans to go against their party majority: the Maine Senator was the first GOP lawmaker to oppose the Obamacare repeal and to oppose putting Scott Pruitt in charge of the Environmental Protection Agency.
Activists praised Collins for speaking against the FCC, and nonprofit Fight for the Future commended the senator for “having the courage” to defy the majority opinion of Republicans. Trump has previously criticized Obama for his moves to preserve net neutrality.
Conservatives argue net neutrality impedes broadband’s free market and unnecessarily regulates the public. Advocates — including technology companies, small business advocates, and civil liberties activists, along with everyday consumers — say that without net neutrality protections, internet service providers can control people’s access to content and broadband speed. And the largest ISP’s in the land all support removing the consumer protection.
This control over the internet could have harsh consequences for rural areas like those in Senator Collins’ home state of Maine. Collins told the Bangor Daily News her opposition to the FCC proposal also hinges on how an end to net neutrality would “discourage the spread of broadband internet in rural areas.” A 2016 blog post from researchers at the Brookings Institution illustrates the “stark contrast” between internet connectivity in rural and urban areas, and says that creating equal access to broadband would prevent this gap in access from widening.
Although Congress does not have any influence on the FCC’s December 14th vote, the legislature can create new regulations and enact laws on net neutrality as it sees fit.
https://www.inverse.com/article/38733-net-neutrality-republican-maine
Collins says that “internet providers must not manage their system in an anti-competitive way that limits consumers’ choices,” reported the Bangor Daily News.
Although Congress doesn’t have a direct say in the FCC’s decision on December 14, Collins’ actions could potentially dishevel the appearance of unity behind Donald Trump and his appointed FCC Commisioner, Ajit Pai. It wouldn’t be the first time that Collins has spurred other Republicans to go against their party majority: the Maine Senator was the first GOP lawmaker to oppose the Obamacare repeal and to oppose putting Scott Pruitt in charge of the Environmental Protection Agency.
Activists praised Collins for speaking against the FCC, and nonprofit Fight for the Future commended the senator for “having the courage” to defy the majority opinion of Republicans. Trump has previously criticized Obama for his moves to preserve net neutrality.
Conservatives argue net neutrality impedes broadband’s free market and unnecessarily regulates the public. Advocates — including technology companies, small business advocates, and civil liberties activists, along with everyday consumers — say that without net neutrality protections, internet service providers can control people’s access to content and broadband speed. And the largest ISP’s in the land all support removing the consumer protection.
This control over the internet could have harsh consequences for rural areas like those in Senator Collins’ home state of Maine. Collins told the Bangor Daily News her opposition to the FCC proposal also hinges on how an end to net neutrality would “discourage the spread of broadband internet in rural areas.” A 2016 blog post from researchers at the Brookings Institution illustrates the “stark contrast” between internet connectivity in rural and urban areas, and says that creating equal access to broadband would prevent this gap in access from widening.
Although Congress does not have any influence on the FCC’s December 14th vote, the legislature can create new regulations and enact laws on net neutrality as it sees fit.
https://www.inverse.com/article/38733-net-neutrality-republican-maine
https://www.inverse.com/article/38733-net-neutrality-republican-maine
16 December 2017 16:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
0: December 21, 2010: FCC Adopts First Net Neutrality Regulations
The FCC issues an “Open Internet Order” that states internet service providers have to be transparent and can’t block or slow down consumer access to content. Under the Obama administration, this is the first step taken toward achieving net neutrality. However net neutrality advocates criticized the rules for not going far enough to prevent providers from creating priority “fast lanes.”
https://www.inverse.com/article/38735-net-neutrality-timeline-fcc-meeting
Net neutrality is center-stage as the Trump administration FCC eyes its removal, but this isn’t the first time the war over internet service has waged loudly and publicly.
The FCC issues an “Open Internet Order” that states internet service providers have to be transparent and can’t block or slow down consumer access to content. Under the Obama administration, this is the first step taken toward achieving net neutrality. However net neutrality advocates criticized the rules for not going far enough to prevent providers from creating priority “fast lanes.”
https://www.inverse.com/article/38735-net-neutrality-timeline-fcc-meeting
Net neutrality is center-stage as the Trump administration FCC eyes its removal, but this isn’t the first time the war over internet service has waged loudly and publicly.
https://www.inverse.com/article/38735-net-neutrality-timeline-fcc-meeting
16 December 2017 16:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
-------------------
And.. alright, this is actual news i was heading for:
https://www.inverse.com/article/39418-net-neutrality-regulations-wouldn-t-save-the-internet-says-internet-pioneer
David Farber says that when it comes to our freedom of speech online, the FCC’s decision Thursday is only one piece in a much greater puzzle.
“I wish that the debate had been more under the pros and cons of Title II, rather than this mystic net neutrality,” he tells Inverse.
Farber, 83, is a computer scientist and adjunct professor of Internet Studies at Carnegie Mellon. He served as the chief technologist to the FCC in 2000 and 2001.
And.. alright, this is actual news i was heading for:
https://www.inverse.com/article/39418-net-neutrality-regulations-wouldn-t-save-the-internet-says-internet-pioneer
David Farber says that when it comes to our freedom of speech online, the FCC’s decision Thursday is only one piece in a much greater puzzle.
“I wish that the debate had been more under the pros and cons of Title II, rather than this mystic net neutrality,” he tells Inverse.
Farber, 83, is a computer scientist and adjunct professor of Internet Studies at Carnegie Mellon. He served as the chief technologist to the FCC in 2000 and 2001.
https://www.inverse.com/article/39418-net-neutrality-regulations-wouldn-t-save-the-internet-says-internet-pioneer
16 December 2017 16:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tarmo Kruusimäe ah, ma teiste pärast muretsen,
Ma ise töötan nagunii selles suunas, et paroole üldse eriti olemas poleks,
et inimesed aru saaksid oma mõtete ja tegude avatusest ja puhtuse vajalikusest.
Ma ise töötan nagunii selles suunas, et paroole üldse eriti olemas poleks,
et inimesed aru saaksid oma mõtete ja tegude avatusest ja puhtuse vajalikusest.
16 December 2017 16:27
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Schulke's note.
I have not jet "get it" at all,
From the great doc in here: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1CtMniJC5tZvV1o1U3lAhDUenZzGAIFF4SaOra_Oy3Zk&pli=1
But it seems, by heart feeling, that You work for Good
From the great doc in here: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1CtMniJC5tZvV1o1U3lAhDUenZzGAIFF4SaOra_Oy3Zk&pli=1
But it seems, by heart feeling, that You work for Good
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1CtMniJC5tZvV1o1U3lAhDUenZzGAIFF4SaOra_Oy3Zk&pli=1
16 December 2017 12:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Full list for overview:
https://haveibeenpwned.com/PwnedWebsites
https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords
https://haveibeenpwned.com/PwnedWebsites
https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords
https://haveibeenpwned.com/PwnedWebsites
15 December 2017 17:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Just one sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7jQhaxbuvw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7jQhaxbuvw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7jQhaxbuvw
15 December 2017 17:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Another leak liked for police probably:
"vBulletin forum for the Marijuana site cannabis.com was breached and leaked publicly. Whilst there has been no public attribution of the breach, the leaked data included over 227k accounts and nearly 10k private messages between users of the forum."
http://archive.is/7VaVM
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5010939
https://www.flashback.org/p49139362
"vBulletin forum for the Marijuana site cannabis.com was breached and leaked publicly. Whilst there has been no public attribution of the breach, the leaked data included over 227k accounts and nearly 10k private messages between users of the forum."
http://archive.is/7VaVM
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5010939
https://www.flashback.org/p49139362
http://cannabis.com/
15 December 2017 17:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Forbes website succumbed to an attack that leaked over 1 million user accounts. The attack was attributed to the Syrian Electronic Army, allegedly as retribution for a perceived "Hate of Syria". The attack not only leaked user credentials, but also resulted in the posting of fake news stories to forbes.com. "
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57618945-83/syrian-electronic-army-hacks-forbes-steals-user-data
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57618945-83/syrian-electronic-army-hacks-forbes-steals-user-data
15 December 2017 17:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Gawker was attacked by the hacker collective "Gnosis" in retaliation for what was reported to be a feud between Gawker and 4Chan. Information about Gawkers 1.3M users was published along with the data from Gawker's other web presences including Gizmodo and Lifehacker "
http://www.troyhunt.com/2011/01/why-your-apps-security-design-could.html
http://www.troyhunt.com/2011/01/why-your-apps-security-design-could.html
http://www.troyhunt.com/2011/01/why-your-apps-security-design-could.html
15 December 2017 17:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hacktivist group known as "LulzSec" leaked one final large data breach they titled "50 days of lulz". The compromised data came from sources such as AT&T, Battlefield Heroes and the hackforums .net website.
https://web.archive.org/web/20130308093342/http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/06/25/lulzsec-says-goodbye-dumping-nato-att-gamer-data/
http://pastebin.com/raw/iVujX4TR
https://web.archive.org/web/20121108081621/http://dazzlepod.com/lulzsec/final/
https://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec/status/84758628325801984
https://thepiratebay.org/search/50_Days_of_Lulz/0/0/0
https://web.archive.org/web/20130308093342/http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/06/25/lulzsec-says-goodbye-dumping-nato-att-gamer-data/
http://pastebin.com/raw/iVujX4TR
https://web.archive.org/web/20121108081621/http://dazzlepod.com/lulzsec/final/
https://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec/status/84758628325801984
https://thepiratebay.org/search/50_Days_of_Lulz/0/0/0
https://web.archive.org/web/20130308093342/http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/06/25/lulzsec-says-goodbye-dumping-nato-att-gamer-data/
15 December 2017 17:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Also, some old good news, great tools for police as well:
", one of the largest communities of Eastern Europe cybercriminals known as "Verified" was hacked. The breach exposed nearly 17k users "
http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/21120/cyber-crime/verified-communities-hacked.html
", one of the largest communities of Eastern Europe cybercriminals known as "Verified" was hacked. The breach exposed nearly 17k users "
http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/21120/cyber-crime/verified-communities-hacked.html
http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/21120/cyber-crime/verified-communities-hacked.html
15 December 2017 16:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But yea, great amount of data the FSB and other's who like blackmail or investigate if needed, copy your private secrets... like Scientology
--
"the tool itself is for sale here [redacted]
it's pretty cheap
it's mostly used in Russia, but he does sell an english version
most common use-case: someone buys a dump on x forum, uses the tool to verify which ones are legit
similar to sentryMBA and account hitman
you will often see a uniqueness score associated with the sale based on output
https://www.troyhunt.com/password-reuse-credential-stuffing-and-another-1-billion-records-in-have-i-been-pwned/
--
"the tool itself is for sale here [redacted]
it's pretty cheap
it's mostly used in Russia, but he does sell an english version
most common use-case: someone buys a dump on x forum, uses the tool to verify which ones are legit
similar to sentryMBA and account hitman
you will often see a uniqueness score associated with the sale based on output
https://www.troyhunt.com/password-reuse-credential-stuffing-and-another-1-billion-records-in-have-i-been-pwned/
https://www.troyhunt.com/password-reuse-credential-stuffing-and-another-1-billion-records-in-have-i-been-pwned/
15 December 2017 16:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nice work:
https://itsalocke.com/hibpwned/
https://itsalocke.com/hibpwned/
https://itsalocke.com/hibpwned/
15 December 2017 16:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Great site as well:
http://siph0n.net/
http://siph0n.net/
http://siph0n.net/
15 December 2017 16:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
15 December 2017 16:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kontode arv mille paroolid teada, on päris muljetavaldav, peaaegu 5 miljardit :
" 4,846,841,219
pwned accounts "
Praktiliselt enamus kontod mis planeedipeal olemas on,
see oleks pidanud ka uudise sisu lisa olema
" 4,846,841,219
pwned accounts "
Praktiliselt enamus kontod mis planeedipeal olemas on,
see oleks pidanud ka uudise sisu lisa olema
15 December 2017 15:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
15 December 2017 15:53
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Oi kui kena ja head infot saaksid nüüd hakata siin inimesed koguma... kellel vähegi viitsimist, oskust ja resurssi on nende kontode sisu ja meilikontod endale andmebaasi tirida, eravestlused, armukesed,... palju väljapressimist ja psüholoogilist mõjutamist kümneteks aastateks olenevalt huvist..
Kuid nüüd.. kas ma viitsin siin enda asju turvama hakata aga...
( Mu enda filosoofia on nagunii kontode sisu avalikustada, inimesed ausale suhtlusele suunata... seega ootan huviga darkweebi suurbaase inimeste kontode sisu koopiatest : )
Kuid nüüd.. kas ma viitsin siin enda asju turvama hakata aga...
( Mu enda filosoofia on nagunii kontode sisu avalikustada, inimesed ausale suhtlusele suunata... seega ootan huviga darkweebi suurbaase inimeste kontode sisu koopiatest : )
15 December 2017 15:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Tule 15. detsembril suurele rahvakogunemisele, et avardada üheskoos meie maid ja metsi haldavate ametkondade ja poliitikute meeli. Eesti maa ja rahva esmaseks huviks on hoida ja kaitsta siinsete inimeste elukeskkonda, sest just see on meie rahva ja riigi varadest kõige hinnalisem.
KES KELLA KOLMEKS KESKKONNAMINISTEERIUMI ETTE EI JÕUA, ON OODATUD KELLA POOLE VIIEST RIIGIKOGU ETTE!
15.00 kogunetakse Keskkonnaministeeriumi hoovis (Narva mnt 7a).
Rahva häälestavad Meeleavarduse lainele Tõnis Mägi ja Jaak Johanson.
Avalikustatakse „Rahva Lootuse auhinna 2018“ laureaat.
15.30 algab rongkäik läbi linna, et päästa metsade hoidmise hea sõnum valla.
Rongkäik algab Keskkonnaministeeriumi hoovist, sealt üle Hobujaama tänava Postimaja ette, edasi mööda Narva maanteed, üle Mere puiestee, siis Viru tänavat mööda Raekoja platsile, sealt Harju tänavat mööda Vabaduse väljakule, Harju mäe treppidest üles ning lõpuks mööda Komandandi teed ja Toompea tänavat Riigikogu ette.
16.30 kogunetakse Riigikogu ees (Lossi plats 1).
Tunnustatakse kolme Eesti inimest, kes on seisnud pikalt ja kindlameelselt oma kodumaa metsade eest.
20.00 algab Hopleri majas EMA sünnipäevapidu.
Kõik huvilised on palavalt oodatud osa võtma!
Meeleavardusega tuletame täidesaatvale ja seadusandlikule riigivõimule meelde, et Eesti loodusvarad ja loodusressursid on põhiseaduse järgi rahvuslik rikkus, mida tuleb kasutada säästlikult (§ 5), ning igaüks on kohustatud säästma elu- ja looduskeskkonda ning hüvitama kahju, mis ta on keskkonnale tekitanud (§ 53).
Ainult siinse looduspärimuse säilitamisega jääb alles meie rahva erilisus, kestmisvõime ja juured.
Tule ja saa osa pärimuslikust meeleavardusest, millega avaldad toetust EMA ettevalmistustele uue kümnendi metsanduse arengukava loomisel"
KES KELLA KOLMEKS KESKKONNAMINISTEERIUMI ETTE EI JÕUA, ON OODATUD KELLA POOLE VIIEST RIIGIKOGU ETTE!
15.00 kogunetakse Keskkonnaministeeriumi hoovis (Narva mnt 7a).
Rahva häälestavad Meeleavarduse lainele Tõnis Mägi ja Jaak Johanson.
Avalikustatakse „Rahva Lootuse auhinna 2018“ laureaat.
15.30 algab rongkäik läbi linna, et päästa metsade hoidmise hea sõnum valla.
Rongkäik algab Keskkonnaministeeriumi hoovist, sealt üle Hobujaama tänava Postimaja ette, edasi mööda Narva maanteed, üle Mere puiestee, siis Viru tänavat mööda Raekoja platsile, sealt Harju tänavat mööda Vabaduse väljakule, Harju mäe treppidest üles ning lõpuks mööda Komandandi teed ja Toompea tänavat Riigikogu ette.
16.30 kogunetakse Riigikogu ees (Lossi plats 1).
Tunnustatakse kolme Eesti inimest, kes on seisnud pikalt ja kindlameelselt oma kodumaa metsade eest.
20.00 algab Hopleri majas EMA sünnipäevapidu.
Kõik huvilised on palavalt oodatud osa võtma!
Meeleavardusega tuletame täidesaatvale ja seadusandlikule riigivõimule meelde, et Eesti loodusvarad ja loodusressursid on põhiseaduse järgi rahvuslik rikkus, mida tuleb kasutada säästlikult (§ 5), ning igaüks on kohustatud säästma elu- ja looduskeskkonda ning hüvitama kahju, mis ta on keskkonnale tekitanud (§ 53).
Ainult siinse looduspärimuse säilitamisega jääb alles meie rahva erilisus, kestmisvõime ja juured.
Tule ja saa osa pärimuslikust meeleavardusest, millega avaldad toetust EMA ettevalmistustele uue kümnendi metsanduse arengukava loomisel"
14 December 2017 19:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
For a mind exercise,
These people talk on these topics on more worth to listen way then most others i have meet
These people talk on these topics on more worth to listen way then most others i have meet
14 December 2017 19:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and as little credibility at First sight from pure science perspective, but
when to add to the last link i posted, this mentioned in here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5TSm2mWlbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt3dzTB0g5Q&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JukclW5_IGU (Last resting place for him / Sarah R Adams fiance )
Then the ability .. possibility where it all can take us is worth to take note...
also good material for new insane speculations, what is already here when this is public info about plasmid
when to add to the last link i posted, this mentioned in here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5TSm2mWlbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt3dzTB0g5Q&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JukclW5_IGU (Last resting place for him / Sarah R Adams fiance )
Then the ability .. possibility where it all can take us is worth to take note...
also good material for new insane speculations, what is already here when this is public info about plasmid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5TSm2mWlbo
14 December 2017 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Schulke's post.
Now can we imagine, if these kind of knowledge to join in with
that videos mentioned here, if true: http://isapaev.blogspot.com.ee/p/inimene-pole-robot.html .. what their minds will generate for potential...
that videos mentioned here, if true: http://isapaev.blogspot.com.ee/p/inimene-pole-robot.html .. what their minds will generate for potential...
http://isapaev.blogspot.com.ee/p/inimene-pole-robot.html
14 December 2017 19:26
Margus Meigo replied to Jonathan Jones's comment.
How would You word this news so, that average Trump or Sport channel viewer would "get it" ?
14 December 2017 19:24
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Schulke's post.
Helle Kaasik
14 December 2017 19:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
& Kreisi Trahter : )
Väga ilus koht!
Väga ilus koht!
13 December 2017 19:50
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
:D
13 December 2017 19:42
Margus Meigo commented on Laura L. Post's photo.
Nice kitten you have adopted,
13 December 2017 19:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
topped with insult and removing last of what the lawsuiters own,
as he is in team with Scientology as well, and kgb, so is near dangerous to actually attack this one, they think BIG term, how to eliminate land under your feet in next 30 years term if needed, if they feel personally insulted.
As if they allow someone to win then others will fallow... so they strategy is to make example of anyone who attempts.
ONLY realistic way to win these kind of things, is when it is good to His PR, then they let other win to show: see how soft and honest, admitting guy one is! (and later will just drop nano anti fertility bomb in to air around the complainers with grin in face... saying "seleaa.. good last generation to ya" )
, this is what kind of people they are, we must understand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUPEF6PQxow
But we must co-operate with Hes position, to not land on "anti america" pot - and also, it's just right, to keep hoping, that ones heart will restore bit by bit
as he is in team with Scientology as well, and kgb, so is near dangerous to actually attack this one, they think BIG term, how to eliminate land under your feet in next 30 years term if needed, if they feel personally insulted.
As if they allow someone to win then others will fallow... so they strategy is to make example of anyone who attempts.
ONLY realistic way to win these kind of things, is when it is good to His PR, then they let other win to show: see how soft and honest, admitting guy one is! (and later will just drop nano anti fertility bomb in to air around the complainers with grin in face... saying "seleaa.. good last generation to ya" )
, this is what kind of people they are, we must understand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUPEF6PQxow
But we must co-operate with Hes position, to not land on "anti america" pot - and also, it's just right, to keep hoping, that ones heart will restore bit by bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUPEF6PQxow
13 December 2017 19:38
Margus Meigo commented on Laura L. Post's post.
Yeah, like that would ever get anything more then some ironic joke out of him
13 December 2017 19:32
Margus Meigo commented on Laura L. Post's post.
// rant
Strange for me, that so legendary famous can be someones who JUST play , actually PLAY football - no different of many other games kids play (just perhaps there is more games that develop humans or benefit earth).
And then someone invents something in laboratory or works 30 years to benefit 10 000's of thousands of humans directly, .. they hardly ever reach in news again and again...
And then they want, kids to believe, that this world and reality is the correct and "real" one. Does not seem really logical to me when looking from human greater worth perspective.
But as he is friend of great Leader, then this is another story, i can understand, that is important. But when football in amount of that it is played and invested in ever has bring back something that history can look back and be grateful for.
Has anyone ever bothered to hear what do they scream on most training's , what kind of slogans and programming? It is actually harming to human psyche as their brain also starts to think more in these terms.
And in all, sports.. something that someone is feeling good about another failures (people feel good that someone lost, ))
does not seem high develop species as in the end of day, what was accomplice (for the planet earth, relationships, future)?
Strange for me, that so legendary famous can be someones who JUST play , actually PLAY football - no different of many other games kids play (just perhaps there is more games that develop humans or benefit earth).
And then someone invents something in laboratory or works 30 years to benefit 10 000's of thousands of humans directly, .. they hardly ever reach in news again and again...
And then they want, kids to believe, that this world and reality is the correct and "real" one. Does not seem really logical to me when looking from human greater worth perspective.
But as he is friend of great Leader, then this is another story, i can understand, that is important. But when football in amount of that it is played and invested in ever has bring back something that history can look back and be grateful for.
Has anyone ever bothered to hear what do they scream on most training's , what kind of slogans and programming? It is actually harming to human psyche as their brain also starts to think more in these terms.
And in all, sports.. something that someone is feeling good about another failures (people feel good that someone lost, ))
does not seem high develop species as in the end of day, what was accomplice (for the planet earth, relationships, future)?
13 December 2017 19:32
Margus Meigo commented on Laura L. Post's photo.
Looking good and fresh!
13 December 2017 19:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nii hea saab isa ainult väljanäha kahe nii tasemel õnnest pakatava lapse vahel!
13 December 2017 18:38
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Saarepera's photo.
Üli hea pilt
12 December 2017 21:31
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Good call!
12 December 2017 14:58
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
90 alguses rikuti ka kogu integratsioon mingi seebika pärast, mida vaja oli hakata broadcastima ja mis võimaldas võõrkanalite varajase kannakinnitamise, millele järgnesid juba meie riigi vastased ja moraali hävitavad saated ja kanalid ning Need inimesed sääl tõmmati teise informatsiooni haardesse,
hiljem poleks sanud seda keelata, interneti ajastul, eu ajastul, kuid enne seda kohe kindlasti oleks pidnaud
// kuid see hoopis muu teema, lihtsalt meelde tuli pere jutuajamine sellest, ja seotud mõttemaailmad..
hiljem poleks sanud seda keelata, interneti ajastul, eu ajastul, kuid enne seda kohe kindlasti oleks pidnaud
// kuid see hoopis muu teema, lihtsalt meelde tuli pere jutuajamine sellest, ja seotud mõttemaailmad..
12 December 2017 11:08
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Justament, tubli!
See pea ikka Vääga eriline krimisari olema, vast vana aja kultuursed klassikud mis ETVs jooksid (see uuriv mammi, byroo jms), olid SELLE pärast aksepteeritud, et neis kajastus inglise kõrgkultuur, inimeste kultuuriline areng ja viisakus, et mis moodi välismaaal päriselt käitutakse kultuursete inimeste hulgas
Kuigi ka see oli liiga libisev samm, nagu näha, nüüd unustati ära MIKS midagi näidata vaja on ja hakatakse lihtsalt meelelahutust, põnevust, ajaviidet ja põnevust pakkuma, mida kohe KINDLAS>TI pole vaja riigitelevisoonist kui ta mingitki vääärtust tahab säilitada, kui tahab oma mõtet usaldusväärsena alles hoida mitte komertsi alla mattuda.
Mis sa toetad seda uue ERR juhi otsust ka, et ETVsse reklaam tagasi panna ja et juhtida riigi televisiooni nagu äri??
See pea ikka Vääga eriline krimisari olema, vast vana aja kultuursed klassikud mis ETVs jooksid (see uuriv mammi, byroo jms), olid SELLE pärast aksepteeritud, et neis kajastus inglise kõrgkultuur, inimeste kultuuriline areng ja viisakus, et mis moodi välismaaal päriselt käitutakse kultuursete inimeste hulgas
Kuigi ka see oli liiga libisev samm, nagu näha, nüüd unustati ära MIKS midagi näidata vaja on ja hakatakse lihtsalt meelelahutust, põnevust, ajaviidet ja põnevust pakkuma, mida kohe KINDLAS>TI pole vaja riigitelevisoonist kui ta mingitki vääärtust tahab säilitada, kui tahab oma mõtet usaldusväärsena alles hoida mitte komertsi alla mattuda.
Mis sa toetad seda uue ERR juhi otsust ka, et ETVsse reklaam tagasi panna ja et juhtida riigi televisiooni nagu äri??
12 December 2017 11:03
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Jube kahju, et neil (veel mõnda aega) on sõna kes aru ei saa mis on Riigitelevisioon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbzpCehUt_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHlCXidWwdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbzpCehUt_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHlCXidWwdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbzpCehUt_c
12 December 2017 00:09
Margus Meigo commented on Igor Novitski's photo.
Habe peaks ka ikka kasvama selle ajaga
12 December 2017 00:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Algus
https://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/3fdad780-7acc-46f3-b4d7-fcb4f8badd2f/kajalood-hagi-sein-ja-kaja-karner
sarja "Kajalood" esimeses saates on loodimise objektiks legendaarne telesaatejuht, nüüdne meediaõppejõud Hagi Šeini - ikka ETV 60. sünnipäeva ja kooliaasta alguse puhul.
ja muu: https://vikerraadio.err.ee/listing/kajalood#?page=1&pagesize=20&phrase=&from=&to=&path=kajalood&showAll=false
https://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/3fdad780-7acc-46f3-b4d7-fcb4f8badd2f/kajalood-hagi-sein-ja-kaja-karner
sarja "Kajalood" esimeses saates on loodimise objektiks legendaarne telesaatejuht, nüüdne meediaõppejõud Hagi Šeini - ikka ETV 60. sünnipäeva ja kooliaasta alguse puhul.
ja muu: https://vikerraadio.err.ee/listing/kajalood#?page=1&pagesize=20&phrase=&from=&to=&path=kajalood&showAll=false
https://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/3fdad780-7acc-46f3-b4d7-fcb4f8badd2f/kajalood-hagi-sein-ja-kaja-karner
12 December 2017 00:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Laupäeval veedame keskpäevatunni mehega, kes on tõlkinud eesti keelde heebrea, kreeka, etioopia, jidiši, araabia, aramea, pärsia, ladina, kõmri, albaania, mõistagi ka saksa, inglise ja prantsusekeelseid tekste ja tänu kellele võime oma keeleruumi lugeda maailma üheks rikkamaks.
Tõlkija ja teoloog Kalle Kasemaa, usuteaduskonna taastaja ja dekaan Tartu Ülikoolis, nüüd professor emeeritus ja vastne riikliku kultuuri elutööpreemia laureaat jagab meiega hetki eluteelt.
https://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/e62cdc4d-7f44-4713-82fe-c640b202e51d/kajalood-kalle-kasemaa-loodan-et-saan-oma-eluteed-hairimatult-jatkata
Tõlkija ja teoloog Kalle Kasemaa, usuteaduskonna taastaja ja dekaan Tartu Ülikoolis, nüüd professor emeeritus ja vastne riikliku kultuuri elutööpreemia laureaat jagab meiega hetki eluteelt.
https://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/e62cdc4d-7f44-4713-82fe-c640b202e51d/kajalood-kalle-kasemaa-loodan-et-saan-oma-eluteed-hairimatult-jatkata
https://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/e62cdc4d-7f44-4713-82fe-c640b202e51d/kajalood-kalle-kasemaa-loodan-et-saan-oma-eluteed-hairimatult-jatkata
11 December 2017 23:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Iga esmaspäeva õhtul 85 tuhat inimest teleekraanide ette "Osooni" vaatama tõmbav Vladislav Koržets ei ole ammu enam see naljamees, kes ta satiirilehe Pikker aegadel oli.
Nüüd ütleb ta, et inimesel on vaja enese jaoks aega, et oma mõtetest ja ilmatumast tarkusest puhastuda.
Suurem kui mure metsamajanduse pärast on Vladislav Koržetsi hinnangul mure põlevkivielektri ja Rail Balticu pärast.
Aga rõõmul, rahul ja tasakaalul on tema elus kõige tähtsam koht.
https://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/10558741-6399-4f6b-bb80-bfd2ccc3963d/kajalood-vladislav-korzets-et-eneseni-jouda-tuleb-vahepeal-enesest-lahti-utelda
Nüüd ütleb ta, et inimesel on vaja enese jaoks aega, et oma mõtetest ja ilmatumast tarkusest puhastuda.
Suurem kui mure metsamajanduse pärast on Vladislav Koržetsi hinnangul mure põlevkivielektri ja Rail Balticu pärast.
Aga rõõmul, rahul ja tasakaalul on tema elus kõige tähtsam koht.
https://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/10558741-6399-4f6b-bb80-bfd2ccc3963d/kajalood-vladislav-korzets-et-eneseni-jouda-tuleb-vahepeal-enesest-lahti-utelda
https://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/10558741-6399-4f6b-bb80-bfd2ccc3963d/kajalood-vladislav-korzets-et-eneseni-jouda-tuleb-vahepeal-enesest-lahti-utelda
11 December 2017 23:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Päevakohane
Keegi ei saa võtta inimeselt õigust oma isamaad kaitsta, ütleb Kaitseliidu ülem kindralmajor Meelis Kiili, rääkides, kui erinev emotsionaalne laeng on õigusel ja kohustusel isamaad kaitsta.
https://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/678e960d-4fdf-4b68-a3fe-e02cf5174b41/kajalood-meelis-kiili-kaitseliitlane-viimase-hingetombeni
Keegi ei saa võtta inimeselt õigust oma isamaad kaitsta, ütleb Kaitseliidu ülem kindralmajor Meelis Kiili, rääkides, kui erinev emotsionaalne laeng on õigusel ja kohustusel isamaad kaitsta.
https://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/678e960d-4fdf-4b68-a3fe-e02cf5174b41/kajalood-meelis-kiili-kaitseliitlane-viimase-hingetombeni
https://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/678e960d-4fdf-4b68-a3fe-e02cf5174b41/kajalood-meelis-kiili-kaitseliitlane-viimase-hingetombeni
11 December 2017 23:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Post-post-modernistliku ajastuga tasapisi liituv uusliberaalsus pakub üha keerukamaks muutuvas maailmas lihtsaid lahendusi, must-valgeid valikuid, sunnib tegelema saja asjaga korraga ja röövib meilt süvenemisvõime ja keskendumisoskuse.
Teeb seda nii, et me ise ei märkagi.
Kasvatusteadlane Tiiu Kuurme ei jäta ütlemata, kui näeb hariduselus viga laita. Laupäevases "Kajaloodis" juurdleb ta rohkem pealiskaudsuse jakõikelubatavuse pealetungi üle ning tuletab meelde, et kõige uuega ei ole vaja kaasa minna.
https://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/87fbd4e8-f43a-4114-bfa1-5783ef7320da/kajalood-tiiu-kuurme-mootmis--ja-hindamisihalus-ei-motesta-inimest-oigesti
Teeb seda nii, et me ise ei märkagi.
Kasvatusteadlane Tiiu Kuurme ei jäta ütlemata, kui näeb hariduselus viga laita. Laupäevases "Kajaloodis" juurdleb ta rohkem pealiskaudsuse jakõikelubatavuse pealetungi üle ning tuletab meelde, et kõige uuega ei ole vaja kaasa minna.
https://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/87fbd4e8-f43a-4114-bfa1-5783ef7320da/kajalood-tiiu-kuurme-mootmis--ja-hindamisihalus-ei-motesta-inimest-oigesti
https://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/87fbd4e8-f43a-4114-bfa1-5783ef7320da/kajalood-tiiu-kuurme-mootmis--ja-hindamisihalus-ei-motesta-inimest-oigesti
11 December 2017 23:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/65baea0d-1735-4241-b875-b57f299972df/kajalood-kristiina-ehin-meie-teha-on-et-eesti-keel-ei-taanduks-suurte-keelte-ees
https://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/65baea0d-1735-4241-b875-b57f299972df/kajalood-kristiina-ehin-meie-teha-on-et-eesti-keel-ei-taanduks-suurte-keelte-ees
11 December 2017 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. Mets Jeesus
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10210330713240939
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10210330713240939
11 December 2017 23:44
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Mina Sa neid kavalikke tea ; )
11 December 2017 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ei ole vaja Neid kellele meeldib Sellised asjad,
Neid meeldimisi võib internetist ise alla laadida või 50 muud kanalit, Crime Foxi vahtida silmad punnis, selliste asjadega ei ole vaja risustada Riigi Eesti Televisiooni, Eriti veel meie riigi oma
Neid meeldimisi võib internetist ise alla laadida või 50 muud kanalit, Crime Foxi vahtida silmad punnis, selliste asjadega ei ole vaja risustada Riigi Eesti Televisiooni, Eriti veel meie riigi oma
11 December 2017 23:31
Margus Meigo commented on KINOTEATER's post.
Nu nii, ootame ootame . )
11 December 2017 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on Urmas Himmaste's photo.
Ilus
11 December 2017 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see ausualt polnud kõige hullem mis telest tulnud kuid ilmselgelt, see poel sari mida riigi elevisioniel saabuja peaks nägema, nu kamoon,
etv2 legi see eip sobiks, usume, et maailmas ikka veel paremaid lahndusi olemas, kui nii väga Selle teemaga oli vaja tegeleda, mis neil sarjas oli,...
too sari pool paratmtuse mulje jätttis...
reaalseid agentuure, inimesigi ei mainitud enne ega pärast, ega vihjena muud kui lihtsalt sanast reaals asja toimivat ühe väikse osana , näitasid kohaliku jaskonna silmeläbi
etv2 legi see eip sobiks, usume, et maailmas ikka veel paremaid lahndusi olemas, kui nii väga Selle teemaga oli vaja tegeleda, mis neil sarjas oli,...
too sari pool paratmtuse mulje jätttis...
reaalseid agentuure, inimesigi ei mainitud enne ega pärast, ega vihjena muud kui lihtsalt sanast reaals asja toimivat ühe väikse osana , näitasid kohaliku jaskonna silmeläbi
11 December 2017 01:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
selles samast, niipea kui Ameeriklased lubavad,
ega meil endil.. jah endil oelks ka raha aga kuidas kelllt oskaks küsida, nii et taolisel ajal usalduspiiri tunnetada, eks näib eks näib
ega meil endil.. jah endil oelks ka raha aga kuidas kelllt oskaks küsida, nii et taolisel ajal usalduspiiri tunnetada, eks näib eks näib
11 December 2017 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
onneks seepärast ka paraleel televisooni teme ja veel paremii
11 December 2017 01:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oleks ta mingi kultuuriline supperteos siis,
eesti TV's ei peaks oelma "aega üle", et midagi eetriaja täitmiseks ja vaatajate tõmbamiseks autopiloodile pannakse
eesti TV's ei peaks oelma "aega üle", et midagi eetriaja täitmiseks ja vaatajate tõmbamiseks autopiloodile pannakse
11 December 2017 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sari oli pigem viisakas, kuid pole vaja tolist asja nii odava seriaaliga tuua, see pool uinutus, kui selles osas filmida vaja on siis klippe vb ja teemasaada ümber vms
11 December 2017 01:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ma jään endiselt rõivase toetajaks, eeldan isegi, et talle pandi aprothithiaki joogi sisse, kui ta päriselt võõrast naist vaataks, ki, tal endale ju SELLINE Naine.
Kuigi ,ise eelkõige eelistan kampsuneid ja linast rõivast
(kui keegi küsiks, kas rõivas meeldiv)
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Ühesõnaga jah, ma seda võimalust hoian selleks sedasi, et lootust ja usku elus hoida, loodetava healoomingu tarbeks, rahvale
Kuigi ,ise eelkõige eelistan kampsuneid ja linast rõivast
(kui keegi küsiks, kas rõivas meeldiv)
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Ühesõnaga jah, ma seda võimalust hoian selleks sedasi, et lootust ja usku elus hoida, loodetava healoomingu tarbeks, rahvale
11 December 2017 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Mikkin's post.
Ma alles nüüd lugesin Su koguAlgse kommentaari läbi, vau sa ikka paned väga hullusti, pea, et üle censori piiri kaks sammu :D
11 December 2017 00:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei nu ega ei need Eesti vastased asjad kunagi oel päris inside, pigem keegi sisse pääsenud kes seest kahjustab ja kahjutut samalajal mängib, kellel õigus eraelule, privaatsusele ja vähesele ühissaunale mõndadegi maameestega
11 December 2017 00:21
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Mikkin's post.
sinna hulka käis see vetsuskandaal ka v?
(või kelle Reformierakond enda hukutuseks valisid, kellegi kellel ununes rääkimata Reformiel, et tal peidetud rahapaki peitmise skandaal oli vetsu 5a tagasi, liiga suur kokkusattumus, inside job:p )
(või kelle Reformierakond enda hukutuseks valisid, kellegi kellel ununes rääkimata Reformiel, et tal peidetud rahapaki peitmise skandaal oli vetsu 5a tagasi, liiga suur kokkusattumus, inside job:p )
11 December 2017 00:21
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Mikkin's post.
loomulik, et siin olalkse ajtiselt ju, kuni nende kodumaa korda saab ja siis sit nad kaasa võtma peaks niipalju tarkust ku isavad, et oma maa korda teha,
Näiteks psühedeelsete ainete õige kasutus, palkmajade ehitus ja selleks vajlik alepõllundus või mis iganes parimad lahendused tänapäeval teada on, mille saame kaasa anda, õige kodumaa algupärasuse taastamiseks (vanasti ju rännatigi selleks aint, et võõralt maalt oma maale varnadust ja teadmisi tuua...)
Näiteks psühedeelsete ainete õige kasutus, palkmajade ehitus ja selleks vajlik alepõllundus või mis iganes parimad lahendused tänapäeval teada on, mille saame kaasa anda, õige kodumaa algupärasuse taastamiseks (vanasti ju rännatigi selleks aint, et võõralt maalt oma maale varnadust ja teadmisi tuua...)
11 December 2017 00:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Thank You Yogendra Khadka
11 December 2017 00:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
,)
10 December 2017 14:27
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Taavi Timm kindlasti mitte,
Olulisemgi veel on, mis põhjustel ja eesmärkidel, mis on algus, ja lõpp suuna soov ja tegevused millega sinna jõutakse, lisaks südame pidevalt heasoovile ja usaldusele Jumalas
Olulisemgi veel on, mis põhjustel ja eesmärkidel, mis on algus, ja lõpp suuna soov ja tegevused millega sinna jõutakse, lisaks südame pidevalt heasoovile ja usaldusele Jumalas
10 December 2017 01:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid yeah.. macennaga paar fundamentaalset arusaamade edasiarendust, kudi muidu väärt alus, et meie ühisonda eismesena suurelt sisse need arusaaamad sai toodud, olgugi, et akateemia ületooniga kuid hea julguse püüdlusega selitases kuigi elementaarset kuii nagu müstikat kud..
10 December 2017 01:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja kindlasti ei ole vaja neid niisama trummidega lärmavaid nõid shamaane vaja ette kujtuada kui päris tööd tegema lähed enamasti päevast päeva... God likes quiet..
10 December 2017 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
.:.
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213682339029489
About Artists: http://bit.ly/Shamaans2
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213682339029489
About Artists: http://bit.ly/Shamaans2
10 December 2017 01:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(blondeerimis kemikaali mürk veel nahale ja ajule ka sisse läheb ja see osa nende sala skeemist.. kui vaid teatakse mis peen tehnoloogiiad veel nende shampoonide sissep nnaakse... unsutatakse ära... et veider, misk ineimsed ise endale pea pesu aineid ei tooda eks.. kudias vanasti siis pesti.. :D )
10 December 2017 01:14
Margus Meigo commented on Karita Üksvärav's photo.
Nii kõva päiek, et juuksed ka võttis peaaegu ära,
Kudi jah, poel lõplik katastroof, sest need taastuvad ja kasvavad reaalseks, elusaks paari viie aastaga juba
Kudi jah, poel lõplik katastroof, sest need taastuvad ja kasvavad reaalseks, elusaks paari viie aastaga juba
10 December 2017 01:13
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
eip saa, nii suured asjad käsil, vaja keeled kokku sättida ja moõelda kuidas seda teha ja samas hoida kuskil mingi märge ka üleval, et meeltest ei saadaks ära näpsata kõike arusamasi veel
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.10213674508753737.1073741896.1135161043&type=3&uploaded=6
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.10213674508753737.1073741896.1135161043&type=3&uploaded=6
9 December 2017 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Some reminders come from 1952:
Soviet Bloc / U.S. – July 24, 1952 (LBC)
According to the official platform of the Democratic Party the U.S. “will not abandon the once-free peoples of Central and Eastern Europe…now under the Kremlin’s tyranny”. We look forward to the “liberation of the Soviet satellites and we will expand “Voice of America” programs “for penetration of the Iron Curtain, bringing truth and hope for all…subjugated by the Soviet empire”.
Around same time:
http://www.coldwar.hu/html/en/chronologies/1945-1991/Chronology_1950.html
Soviet Union – 1952 (PLC)
The LLKS, the Lithuanian partisan movement, dissolves itself. All military anti-Soviet movements are abolished in the Baltic states (this applies to the whole of Eastern Europe)
Ewald_Munschke (1976 -Order of Karl Marx) General in the East German quasi-military People's Police: one of the creators of the National People's Army PLan is activated :
soon, "The majority of NATO officers rated the East German Army the best in the Warsaw Pact, the Soviet Army included, although it numbered only 120,000 men. This reputation was based on discipline, thoroughness of training, and quality officer leadership" ( "Socialism Gone Awry: A Study in Bureaucratic Dysfunction in the Armed
Forces of the German Democratic Republic" https://etd.ohiolink.edu/!etd.send_file?accession=ucin1416569882&disposition=inline )
Soviet Union / GDR / FRG / France / UK / US – March 10, 1952 (PLC)
A Soviet note to the Western Great Powers proposes the conclusion of a German peace treaty, creating a united, neutral, demilitarized Germany. In reality, the plan offers no new elements and is mostly aimed at preventing the integration of the FRG in the Western alliance system.
GDR / Soviet Union – September 23, 1952 (KCA)
The Western Powers’ reply to the latest Soviet note is delivered in Moscow. The reply rejects all attacks made by the Soviet Government in their previous note and again calls for the four occupying powers to discuss the formation of an impartial commission of investigation to ensure the holding of all-German elections
Soviet Union / U.S. / FRG / GDR – March 25, 1952 (CWC)
The U.S. answers the Soviet note of March 10, stating that the Americans want all-German free elections to occur before any meeting of foreign ministers can happen.
Soviet Union / FRG / GDR / France / UK / US – April 6, 1952 (KCA)
The Soviet response to the Western Powers’ note of March 25 concerning preparations for a German peace treaty is presented to the Western Ambassadors in Moscow. It rejects the Western proposal that the special U.N. Commission on Germany should “verify the existence of conditions” for holding all-German elections on grounds that the U.N. Charter precludes United Nations “interference,” and instead suggests that the question of all-German elections should be studied by a four-Power commission.
Czechoslovakia / Israel – March 23, 1952 (KCA)
The Israeli Foreign Minister announces that Mordecai Oren, one of the leaders of the left-wing (Socialist) Mapam Party, has been arrested in Prague by the Czechoslovak authorities on charges of having committed “crimes against the security of the State.”
Soviet Union / U.S. – March 2, 1952 (CWC)
Pravda accuses the U.S. of using biological weapons in Korea. The U.S. denies the allegations and calls for an impartial investigation.
Poland – March-April 1952 (PSN)
In honor of Bierut's 60th birthday on April 18, Poland begins celebrations to reinforce his “cult of personality”. In late March 1952 workers at the State Wagon Factory are exonerated to hold a “socialist competition to honor the birthday of our beloved leader and teacher” // ( relates for unknown reasons strongly the: April 18, 1983)
Poland / U.S. – December 15, 1952 (PSN)
A propaganda exhibition called “Such is America” opens at the old arsenal building in Warsaw. The exhibition claims to “unmask the true face of the governing clique of imperialist heirs of slave traders and exploiters of black and white slaves.”
Soviet Bloc / U.S. – December 31, 1952 (LBC)
President elect Eisenhower, in a message to the youth living behind the Iron Curtain declares that they are “not forgotten”
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Hungary – January 5, 1952 (HC)
Statutory rule 1952:1 by the Presidential Council states that new ministries will be established; Ministry of Forestry and Field Farming, Ministry of Food Industry, Ministry of Medium Machine Industry, Ministry of Building Materials, Ministry of Post and Ministry of Local Industry.
Soviet Union / United Nations – February 6, 1952 (KCA)
Soviet Representative Malik makes it clear that his Government cannot accept the admission to the U.N. of Italy, Finland, Ireland, Portugal, Austria, Ceylon and Jordan unless Romania, Hungary, Albania and Mongolia are admitted simultaneously.
Soviet Union / U.S. – January 12, 1952 (LBC)
Vishinski’s disarmament proposal: the Soviet Union accepts the “strict international control” of the International Atomic Energy Agency , which would enter into force after the banning of the A bomb, but the observers may not intervene in domestic affairs and may not stay continuously in the atomic facilities
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Yugoslavia / U.S. – January 8, 1952 (KCA)
The U.S. Ambassador and the Yugoslav Foreign Minister sign an “economic co-operation agreement” setting out the conditions under which Yugoslavia is provided with U.S. economic and technical aid.
Yugoslavia / U.S. – January 4, 1952 (CUY)
The National Intelligence Agency prepares its latest estimate on Yugoslavia, ''Probable Developments in Yugoslavia and the Likelihood of Attack Upon Yugoslavia, through 1952.''
Yugoslavia / Vatican – December 16, 1952 (ACY)
Cardinal Oddi, Chargé d'Affaires of the Vatican legation to Yugoslavia is summoned to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. There he is told that since no answer had been received to the Yugoslav Government's note, and instead Stepinac was made cardinal, it was obvious that the Vatican did not wish for improved relations. Therefore, there was no further reason to maintain diplomatic relations
Yugoslavia / Vatican – December 17, 1952 (KCA)
The Yugoslav Government breaks diplomatic relations with the Vatican and presents a note to the papal Charge d’Affaires in Belgrade alleging Vatican “interference in Church-State relations”, in particular protesting the elevation of Archbishop Stepinac to the College of Cardinals
Soviet Bloc / U.S. – July 24, 1952 (LBC)
According to the official platform of the Democratic Party the U.S. “will not abandon the once-free peoples of Central and Eastern Europe…now under the Kremlin’s tyranny”. We look forward to the “liberation of the Soviet satellites and we will expand “Voice of America” programs “for penetration of the Iron Curtain, bringing truth and hope for all…subjugated by the Soviet empire”.
Around same time:
http://www.coldwar.hu/html/en/chronologies/1945-1991/Chronology_1950.html
Soviet Union – 1952 (PLC)
The LLKS, the Lithuanian partisan movement, dissolves itself. All military anti-Soviet movements are abolished in the Baltic states (this applies to the whole of Eastern Europe)
Ewald_Munschke (1976 -Order of Karl Marx) General in the East German quasi-military People's Police: one of the creators of the National People's Army PLan is activated :
soon, "The majority of NATO officers rated the East German Army the best in the Warsaw Pact, the Soviet Army included, although it numbered only 120,000 men. This reputation was based on discipline, thoroughness of training, and quality officer leadership" ( "Socialism Gone Awry: A Study in Bureaucratic Dysfunction in the Armed
Forces of the German Democratic Republic" https://etd.ohiolink.edu/!etd.send_file?accession=ucin1416569882&disposition=inline )
Soviet Union / GDR / FRG / France / UK / US – March 10, 1952 (PLC)
A Soviet note to the Western Great Powers proposes the conclusion of a German peace treaty, creating a united, neutral, demilitarized Germany. In reality, the plan offers no new elements and is mostly aimed at preventing the integration of the FRG in the Western alliance system.
GDR / Soviet Union – September 23, 1952 (KCA)
The Western Powers’ reply to the latest Soviet note is delivered in Moscow. The reply rejects all attacks made by the Soviet Government in their previous note and again calls for the four occupying powers to discuss the formation of an impartial commission of investigation to ensure the holding of all-German elections
Soviet Union / U.S. / FRG / GDR – March 25, 1952 (CWC)
The U.S. answers the Soviet note of March 10, stating that the Americans want all-German free elections to occur before any meeting of foreign ministers can happen.
Soviet Union / FRG / GDR / France / UK / US – April 6, 1952 (KCA)
The Soviet response to the Western Powers’ note of March 25 concerning preparations for a German peace treaty is presented to the Western Ambassadors in Moscow. It rejects the Western proposal that the special U.N. Commission on Germany should “verify the existence of conditions” for holding all-German elections on grounds that the U.N. Charter precludes United Nations “interference,” and instead suggests that the question of all-German elections should be studied by a four-Power commission.
Czechoslovakia / Israel – March 23, 1952 (KCA)
The Israeli Foreign Minister announces that Mordecai Oren, one of the leaders of the left-wing (Socialist) Mapam Party, has been arrested in Prague by the Czechoslovak authorities on charges of having committed “crimes against the security of the State.”
Soviet Union / U.S. – March 2, 1952 (CWC)
Pravda accuses the U.S. of using biological weapons in Korea. The U.S. denies the allegations and calls for an impartial investigation.
Poland – March-April 1952 (PSN)
In honor of Bierut's 60th birthday on April 18, Poland begins celebrations to reinforce his “cult of personality”. In late March 1952 workers at the State Wagon Factory are exonerated to hold a “socialist competition to honor the birthday of our beloved leader and teacher” // ( relates for unknown reasons strongly the: April 18, 1983)
Poland / U.S. – December 15, 1952 (PSN)
A propaganda exhibition called “Such is America” opens at the old arsenal building in Warsaw. The exhibition claims to “unmask the true face of the governing clique of imperialist heirs of slave traders and exploiters of black and white slaves.”
Soviet Bloc / U.S. – December 31, 1952 (LBC)
President elect Eisenhower, in a message to the youth living behind the Iron Curtain declares that they are “not forgotten”
_______________________
Hungary – January 5, 1952 (HC)
Statutory rule 1952:1 by the Presidential Council states that new ministries will be established; Ministry of Forestry and Field Farming, Ministry of Food Industry, Ministry of Medium Machine Industry, Ministry of Building Materials, Ministry of Post and Ministry of Local Industry.
Soviet Union / United Nations – February 6, 1952 (KCA)
Soviet Representative Malik makes it clear that his Government cannot accept the admission to the U.N. of Italy, Finland, Ireland, Portugal, Austria, Ceylon and Jordan unless Romania, Hungary, Albania and Mongolia are admitted simultaneously.
Soviet Union / U.S. – January 12, 1952 (LBC)
Vishinski’s disarmament proposal: the Soviet Union accepts the “strict international control” of the International Atomic Energy Agency , which would enter into force after the banning of the A bomb, but the observers may not intervene in domestic affairs and may not stay continuously in the atomic facilities
____________________
Yugoslavia / U.S. – January 8, 1952 (KCA)
The U.S. Ambassador and the Yugoslav Foreign Minister sign an “economic co-operation agreement” setting out the conditions under which Yugoslavia is provided with U.S. economic and technical aid.
Yugoslavia / U.S. – January 4, 1952 (CUY)
The National Intelligence Agency prepares its latest estimate on Yugoslavia, ''Probable Developments in Yugoslavia and the Likelihood of Attack Upon Yugoslavia, through 1952.''
Yugoslavia / Vatican – December 16, 1952 (ACY)
Cardinal Oddi, Chargé d'Affaires of the Vatican legation to Yugoslavia is summoned to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. There he is told that since no answer had been received to the Yugoslav Government's note, and instead Stepinac was made cardinal, it was obvious that the Vatican did not wish for improved relations. Therefore, there was no further reason to maintain diplomatic relations
Yugoslavia / Vatican – December 17, 1952 (KCA)
The Yugoslav Government breaks diplomatic relations with the Vatican and presents a note to the papal Charge d’Affaires in Belgrade alleging Vatican “interference in Church-State relations”, in particular protesting the elevation of Archbishop Stepinac to the College of Cardinals
http://www.coldwar.hu/html/en/chronologies/1945-1991/Chronology_1950.html
9 December 2017 00:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Some reminders come from 1952:
Soviet Bloc / U.S. – July 24, 1952 (LBC)
According to the official platform of the Democratic Party the U.S. “will not abandon the once-free peoples of Central and Eastern Europe…now under the Kremlin’s tyranny”. We look forward to the “liberation of the Soviet satellites and we will expand “Voice of America” programs “for penetration of the Iron Curtain, bringing truth and hope for all…subjugated by the Soviet empire”.
Around same time:
http://www.coldwar.hu/html/en/chronologies/1945-1991/Chronology_1950.html
Soviet Union – 1952 (PLC)
The LLKS, the Lithuanian partisan movement, dissolves itself. All military anti-Soviet movements are abolished in the Baltic states (this applies to the whole of Eastern Europe)
Ewald_Munschke (1976 -Order of Karl Marx) General in the East German quasi-military People's Police: one of the creators of the National People's Army PLan is activated :
soon, "The majority of NATO officers rated the East German Army the best in the Warsaw Pact, the Soviet Army included, although it numbered only 120,000 men. This reputation was based on discipline, thoroughness of training, and quality officer leadership" ( "Socialism Gone Awry: A Study in Bureaucratic Dysfunction in the Armed
Forces of the German Democratic Republic" https://etd.ohiolink.edu/!etd.send_file?accession=ucin1416569882&disposition=inline )
Soviet Union / GDR / FRG / France / UK / US – March 10, 1952 (PLC)
A Soviet note to the Western Great Powers proposes the conclusion of a German peace treaty, creating a united, neutral, demilitarized Germany. In reality, the plan offers no new elements and is mostly aimed at preventing the integration of the FRG in the Western alliance system.
GDR / Soviet Union – September 23, 1952 (KCA)
The Western Powers’ reply to the latest Soviet note is delivered in Moscow. The reply rejects all attacks made by the Soviet Government in their previous note and again calls for the four occupying powers to discuss the formation of an impartial commission of investigation to ensure the holding of all-German elections
Soviet Union / U.S. / FRG / GDR – March 25, 1952 (CWC)
The U.S. answers the Soviet note of March 10, stating that the Americans want all-German free elections to occur before any meeting of foreign ministers can happen.
Soviet Union / FRG / GDR / France / UK / US – April 6, 1952 (KCA)
The Soviet response to the Western Powers’ note of March 25 concerning preparations for a German peace treaty is presented to the Western Ambassadors in Moscow. It rejects the Western proposal that the special U.N. Commission on Germany should “verify the existence of conditions” for holding all-German elections on grounds that the U.N. Charter precludes United Nations “interference,” and instead suggests that the question of all-German elections should be studied by a four-Power commission.
Czechoslovakia / Israel – March 23, 1952 (KCA)
The Israeli Foreign Minister announces that Mordecai Oren, one of the leaders of the left-wing (Socialist) Mapam Party, has been arrested in Prague by the Czechoslovak authorities on charges of having committed “crimes against the security of the State.”
Soviet Union / U.S. – March 2, 1952 (CWC)
Pravda accuses the U.S. of using biological weapons in Korea. The U.S. denies the allegations and calls for an impartial investigation.
Poland – March-April 1952 (PSN)
In honor of Bierut's 60th birthday on April 18, Poland begins celebrations to reinforce his “cult of personality”. In late March 1952 workers at the State Wagon Factory are exonerated to hold a “socialist competition to honor the birthday of our beloved leader and teacher” // ( relates for unknown reasons strongly the: April 18, 1983)
Poland / U.S. – December 15, 1952 (PSN)
A propaganda exhibition called “Such is America” opens at the old arsenal building in Warsaw. The exhibition claims to “unmask the true face of the governing clique of imperialist heirs of slave traders and exploiters of black and white slaves.”
Soviet Bloc / U.S. – December 31, 1952 (LBC)
President elect Eisenhower, in a message to the youth living behind the Iron Curtain declares that they are “not forgotten”
_______________________
Hungary – January 5, 1952 (HC)
Statutory rule 1952:1 by the Presidential Council states that new ministries will be established; Ministry of Forestry and Field Farming, Ministry of Food Industry, Ministry of Medium Machine Industry, Ministry of Building Materials, Ministry of Post and Ministry of Local Industry.
Soviet Union / United Nations – February 6, 1952 (KCA)
Soviet Representative Malik makes it clear that his Government cannot accept the admission to the U.N. of Italy, Finland, Ireland, Portugal, Austria, Ceylon and Jordan unless Romania, Hungary, Albania and Mongolia are admitted simultaneously.
Soviet Union / U.S. – January 12, 1952 (LBC)
Vishinski’s disarmament proposal: the Soviet Union accepts the “strict international control” of the International Atomic Energy Agency , which would enter into force after the banning of the A bomb, but the observers may not intervene in domestic affairs and may not stay continuously in the atomic facilities
____________________
Yugoslavia / U.S. – January 8, 1952 (KCA)
The U.S. Ambassador and the Yugoslav Foreign Minister sign an “economic co-operation agreement” setting out the conditions under which Yugoslavia is provided with U.S. economic and technical aid.
Yugoslavia / U.S. – January 4, 1952 (CUY)
The National Intelligence Agency prepares its latest estimate on Yugoslavia, ''Probable Developments in Yugoslavia and the Likelihood of Attack Upon Yugoslavia, through 1952.''
Yugoslavia / Vatican – December 16, 1952 (ACY)
Cardinal Oddi, Chargé d'Affaires of the Vatican legation to Yugoslavia is summoned to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. There he is told that since no answer had been received to the Yugoslav Government's note, and instead Stepinac was made cardinal, it was obvious that the Vatican did not wish for improved relations. Therefore, there was no further reason to maintain diplomatic relations
Yugoslavia / Vatican – December 17, 1952 (KCA)
The Yugoslav Government breaks diplomatic relations with the Vatican and presents a note to the papal Charge d’Affaires in Belgrade alleging Vatican “interference in Church-State relations”, in particular protesting the elevation of Archbishop Stepinac to the College of Cardinals
Soviet Bloc / U.S. – July 24, 1952 (LBC)
According to the official platform of the Democratic Party the U.S. “will not abandon the once-free peoples of Central and Eastern Europe…now under the Kremlin’s tyranny”. We look forward to the “liberation of the Soviet satellites and we will expand “Voice of America” programs “for penetration of the Iron Curtain, bringing truth and hope for all…subjugated by the Soviet empire”.
Around same time:
http://www.coldwar.hu/html/en/chronologies/1945-1991/Chronology_1950.html
Soviet Union – 1952 (PLC)
The LLKS, the Lithuanian partisan movement, dissolves itself. All military anti-Soviet movements are abolished in the Baltic states (this applies to the whole of Eastern Europe)
Ewald_Munschke (1976 -Order of Karl Marx) General in the East German quasi-military People's Police: one of the creators of the National People's Army PLan is activated :
soon, "The majority of NATO officers rated the East German Army the best in the Warsaw Pact, the Soviet Army included, although it numbered only 120,000 men. This reputation was based on discipline, thoroughness of training, and quality officer leadership" ( "Socialism Gone Awry: A Study in Bureaucratic Dysfunction in the Armed
Forces of the German Democratic Republic" https://etd.ohiolink.edu/!etd.send_file?accession=ucin1416569882&disposition=inline )
Soviet Union / GDR / FRG / France / UK / US – March 10, 1952 (PLC)
A Soviet note to the Western Great Powers proposes the conclusion of a German peace treaty, creating a united, neutral, demilitarized Germany. In reality, the plan offers no new elements and is mostly aimed at preventing the integration of the FRG in the Western alliance system.
GDR / Soviet Union – September 23, 1952 (KCA)
The Western Powers’ reply to the latest Soviet note is delivered in Moscow. The reply rejects all attacks made by the Soviet Government in their previous note and again calls for the four occupying powers to discuss the formation of an impartial commission of investigation to ensure the holding of all-German elections
Soviet Union / U.S. / FRG / GDR – March 25, 1952 (CWC)
The U.S. answers the Soviet note of March 10, stating that the Americans want all-German free elections to occur before any meeting of foreign ministers can happen.
Soviet Union / FRG / GDR / France / UK / US – April 6, 1952 (KCA)
The Soviet response to the Western Powers’ note of March 25 concerning preparations for a German peace treaty is presented to the Western Ambassadors in Moscow. It rejects the Western proposal that the special U.N. Commission on Germany should “verify the existence of conditions” for holding all-German elections on grounds that the U.N. Charter precludes United Nations “interference,” and instead suggests that the question of all-German elections should be studied by a four-Power commission.
Czechoslovakia / Israel – March 23, 1952 (KCA)
The Israeli Foreign Minister announces that Mordecai Oren, one of the leaders of the left-wing (Socialist) Mapam Party, has been arrested in Prague by the Czechoslovak authorities on charges of having committed “crimes against the security of the State.”
Soviet Union / U.S. – March 2, 1952 (CWC)
Pravda accuses the U.S. of using biological weapons in Korea. The U.S. denies the allegations and calls for an impartial investigation.
Poland – March-April 1952 (PSN)
In honor of Bierut's 60th birthday on April 18, Poland begins celebrations to reinforce his “cult of personality”. In late March 1952 workers at the State Wagon Factory are exonerated to hold a “socialist competition to honor the birthday of our beloved leader and teacher” // ( relates for unknown reasons strongly the: April 18, 1983)
Poland / U.S. – December 15, 1952 (PSN)
A propaganda exhibition called “Such is America” opens at the old arsenal building in Warsaw. The exhibition claims to “unmask the true face of the governing clique of imperialist heirs of slave traders and exploiters of black and white slaves.”
Soviet Bloc / U.S. – December 31, 1952 (LBC)
President elect Eisenhower, in a message to the youth living behind the Iron Curtain declares that they are “not forgotten”
_______________________
Hungary – January 5, 1952 (HC)
Statutory rule 1952:1 by the Presidential Council states that new ministries will be established; Ministry of Forestry and Field Farming, Ministry of Food Industry, Ministry of Medium Machine Industry, Ministry of Building Materials, Ministry of Post and Ministry of Local Industry.
Soviet Union / United Nations – February 6, 1952 (KCA)
Soviet Representative Malik makes it clear that his Government cannot accept the admission to the U.N. of Italy, Finland, Ireland, Portugal, Austria, Ceylon and Jordan unless Romania, Hungary, Albania and Mongolia are admitted simultaneously.
Soviet Union / U.S. – January 12, 1952 (LBC)
Vishinski’s disarmament proposal: the Soviet Union accepts the “strict international control” of the International Atomic Energy Agency , which would enter into force after the banning of the A bomb, but the observers may not intervene in domestic affairs and may not stay continuously in the atomic facilities
____________________
Yugoslavia / U.S. – January 8, 1952 (KCA)
The U.S. Ambassador and the Yugoslav Foreign Minister sign an “economic co-operation agreement” setting out the conditions under which Yugoslavia is provided with U.S. economic and technical aid.
Yugoslavia / U.S. – January 4, 1952 (CUY)
The National Intelligence Agency prepares its latest estimate on Yugoslavia, ''Probable Developments in Yugoslavia and the Likelihood of Attack Upon Yugoslavia, through 1952.''
Yugoslavia / Vatican – December 16, 1952 (ACY)
Cardinal Oddi, Chargé d'Affaires of the Vatican legation to Yugoslavia is summoned to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. There he is told that since no answer had been received to the Yugoslav Government's note, and instead Stepinac was made cardinal, it was obvious that the Vatican did not wish for improved relations. Therefore, there was no further reason to maintain diplomatic relations
Yugoslavia / Vatican – December 17, 1952 (KCA)
The Yugoslav Government breaks diplomatic relations with the Vatican and presents a note to the papal Charge d’Affaires in Belgrade alleging Vatican “interference in Church-State relations”, in particular protesting the elevation of Archbishop Stepinac to the College of Cardinals
http://www.coldwar.hu/html/en/chronologies/1945-1991/Chronology_1950.html
9 December 2017 00:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
for me the A.i. only made a cathedral for Kremlin:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213617563330137
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213617563330137
9 December 2017 00:00
Margus Meigo commented on Charles Prescott Bush's video.
Pretty good!
8 December 2017 23:57
Margus Meigo replied to Kairi Kaia Truusa's comment.
Eks see armas ütlemine kuid kontekst peab selle ümber olema, muidu tundub ahelreaktsioonina solvangust kuni hingehaava ja lõhestumisena isikus, sest Ohver kahtlustab-tunneb siis, et kui ütleja seda temale hoolimisest ei öelnud ju see oli poolte valimine kus kahtlev-solvuja ennast ise teisele poolele paneb ja ütleja ühte koos maailma suurimate halbtegijatega liigitab kellele ta nüüd peab aastaid alluma ja head nägu teesklema, sest ümberingi pea kõik nii teevad ja pääsu pole muud kui eluotsani jõudmine
nii kergelt ilma väljaarenemata maailma tunnetus teeb seoseid ja nendega kaasa toovad kui nad iniemsed veel on ka ebaarusaamade suurusele võrdväärselt tugevad emotsioonid mis inimeste jätkusuutlikuse lahustab ( https://www.facebook.com/LaurenCSouthern/videos/vb.184795298567879/524872857893453/?type=2&theater )
// enese mõistmiseks ka algse kommentaari kirjutasin pildina kaasa, kuid siis mõtlesin, et proovin ja kirjutan ümber asja veel arusaadavamalt, usutavasti oleks peale kolmandat korda vast veelgi paremaks selle sõnumisisu saanud kui kirjapilt ka õigeks sättida ja vajalike psüh, prof. viited lisada, mis ma eeldan, kindlasti peaks olemas olema ehk palju arenenumal ja mõistvamal
//info hulk lühidalt, on lapse arengualguses teine, mis eri hoolimise ja tunnetuse kaugpiirid liiga vara kätte annab, selleasemel, et väiksest sammhaaval suureks kasvada, siis tundub neil olema sedasi, et maailma hukk ja hukutajad on üheskoos nende pere ja kooliga nende omasuguste väheste kes allesjäänud vasta, lihtne
nii kergelt ilma väljaarenemata maailma tunnetus teeb seoseid ja nendega kaasa toovad kui nad iniemsed veel on ka ebaarusaamade suurusele võrdväärselt tugevad emotsioonid mis inimeste jätkusuutlikuse lahustab ( https://www.facebook.com/LaurenCSouthern/videos/vb.184795298567879/524872857893453/?type=2&theater )
// enese mõistmiseks ka algse kommentaari kirjutasin pildina kaasa, kuid siis mõtlesin, et proovin ja kirjutan ümber asja veel arusaadavamalt, usutavasti oleks peale kolmandat korda vast veelgi paremaks selle sõnumisisu saanud kui kirjapilt ka õigeks sättida ja vajalike psüh, prof. viited lisada, mis ma eeldan, kindlasti peaks olemas olema ehk palju arenenumal ja mõistvamal
//info hulk lühidalt, on lapse arengualguses teine, mis eri hoolimise ja tunnetuse kaugpiirid liiga vara kätte annab, selleasemel, et väiksest sammhaaval suureks kasvada, siis tundub neil olema sedasi, et maailma hukk ja hukutajad on üheskoos nende pere ja kooliga nende omasuguste väheste kes allesjäänud vasta, lihtne
8 December 2017 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vägahea!
8 December 2017 14:32
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Helme's photo.
Nu see juba inimese moodi pilt
8 December 2017 14:32
Margus Meigo commented on Salih Zeki's post.
Group: HUMINT - International Human Intelligence Community
You think Russia needs him no more, so fast? Not think so
http://katehon.com/search/node/trump?page=204
http://katehon.com/search/node/trump
a lot of pages,,,http://katehon.com/search/node/trump?page=204
7 December 2017 22:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So Russians are now with Estonians as i understand, under our umbrella, in joining against false hood.
Joining with traditional values and earth belief
Joining with traditional values and earth belief
7 December 2017 13:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Defination of different versions of clones, robots and Antaltians vs. Land people
"To emphasize the distinction between the two segments of the Fifth Column, it is important to introduce the neologism, the "Sixth columns". As in the case of the Fifth Column, showing that Emilio Mola, the Franco general, had, in addition to the four main column, a special group of Franco supporters, controlling the Republicans Madrid (it was called the "Fifth"), the number "six" has no symbolism.
It was introduced just for the convenience of the correct political analysis.
And the Fifth and the Sixth Columns can be described as supporters of the Sea civilization within the Land one, i.e. a network of Atlanticist agents of influence within modern Russia.
In terms of their fundamental positions, priorities and values, both Columns are practically the same: they have one ideal, one owner, one benchmark, one ideology, the United States, the Western, the euro-atlanticist civilization, liberalism, globalism, global financial oligarchy.
But their relation toward Putin are fundamentally different: the Fifth Column in Russian society is usually called the one that is openly and completely against Putin, for the US and NATO, against the Crimea, against Russia, against the Russian identity, against the sovereignty, against the Eurasian integration, against the return of Russia in history as a world power. It is pure betrayal in its sharp, candid stage when considering it on the scale of the country and the people, but from the Putin's position, they are his evident enemies.
The Sixth Column includes those who still has no definition in the political science dictionary: its representatives are pro-Putin and pro-Russians, but at the same time pro-liberal, pro-Western, willing Russia to be modernized and westernized, wanting its globalization and integration into the Western world with the European values and institutions, waiting for Russia to become a prosperous corporation in the world where all the rules and laws are set by the global Western World that Russia must become a part, and which is destined to become as much as possible under more worthy and profitable circumstanced.
The Sixth Columns is not the Putin's enemies, it is his supporters. If they are betrayers, it is correct not for a national scale, but on the scale of civilization. They do not attack Putin in his every patriotic step, they restrain him. If the Fifth Column fiercely falls upon all Putin's projects, such as the Olympic Games, the Column mocks at the Fifth one and is proud of the Olympics.
But when it comes to the Crimea, it is recommended to stop at the Olympics successes and not to risk with the image victory. When the Fifth Column arrange a traitors' march against reunification with Crimea, the Sixth Column try to put out the patriotism flame, accepting the Crimea as an unavoidable expenses, while strongly emphasizing that it may have high price to be paid, then strictly advises Putin to calm down with the Southeast of Ukraine, as it may threaten successes with the Crimea. When Russian troops entered the People's Republic of Donetsk, the Fifth Column says about military aggression against the sovereign Ukrainian democratic countries, and the Sixth Column puts pressure on Putin to stop there and not to extend the peacekeeping operation in the Kharkov and Odessa."
(clearer now?)
"To emphasize the distinction between the two segments of the Fifth Column, it is important to introduce the neologism, the "Sixth columns". As in the case of the Fifth Column, showing that Emilio Mola, the Franco general, had, in addition to the four main column, a special group of Franco supporters, controlling the Republicans Madrid (it was called the "Fifth"), the number "six" has no symbolism.
It was introduced just for the convenience of the correct political analysis.
And the Fifth and the Sixth Columns can be described as supporters of the Sea civilization within the Land one, i.e. a network of Atlanticist agents of influence within modern Russia.
In terms of their fundamental positions, priorities and values, both Columns are practically the same: they have one ideal, one owner, one benchmark, one ideology, the United States, the Western, the euro-atlanticist civilization, liberalism, globalism, global financial oligarchy.
But their relation toward Putin are fundamentally different: the Fifth Column in Russian society is usually called the one that is openly and completely against Putin, for the US and NATO, against the Crimea, against Russia, against the Russian identity, against the sovereignty, against the Eurasian integration, against the return of Russia in history as a world power. It is pure betrayal in its sharp, candid stage when considering it on the scale of the country and the people, but from the Putin's position, they are his evident enemies.
The Sixth Column includes those who still has no definition in the political science dictionary: its representatives are pro-Putin and pro-Russians, but at the same time pro-liberal, pro-Western, willing Russia to be modernized and westernized, wanting its globalization and integration into the Western world with the European values and institutions, waiting for Russia to become a prosperous corporation in the world where all the rules and laws are set by the global Western World that Russia must become a part, and which is destined to become as much as possible under more worthy and profitable circumstanced.
The Sixth Columns is not the Putin's enemies, it is his supporters. If they are betrayers, it is correct not for a national scale, but on the scale of civilization. They do not attack Putin in his every patriotic step, they restrain him. If the Fifth Column fiercely falls upon all Putin's projects, such as the Olympic Games, the Column mocks at the Fifth one and is proud of the Olympics.
But when it comes to the Crimea, it is recommended to stop at the Olympics successes and not to risk with the image victory. When the Fifth Column arrange a traitors' march against reunification with Crimea, the Sixth Column try to put out the patriotism flame, accepting the Crimea as an unavoidable expenses, while strongly emphasizing that it may have high price to be paid, then strictly advises Putin to calm down with the Southeast of Ukraine, as it may threaten successes with the Crimea. When Russian troops entered the People's Republic of Donetsk, the Fifth Column says about military aggression against the sovereign Ukrainian democratic countries, and the Sixth Column puts pressure on Putin to stop there and not to extend the peacekeeping operation in the Kharkov and Odessa."
(clearer now?)
7 December 2017 13:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Actual last books lists on table:
7 December 2017 12:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But anti-reviews already arise
"Despite her title and introductory emphasis on the shaman's central position historically, the author is forced to admit that, by the 1970's, "shamans still existed, just." That being the case, the impetus for her journey to post-Soviet Siberia some thirty years later seems dubious. She alludes to a "native Siberian renaissance," of which shamanism would be one indicator. The substance of her book is almost completely at odds with both a general and particular cultural rebirth. An awkward pastiche of travelogue, historical anecdote and ethnography, it evokes the Siberian scene following the collapse of Communism, dominated by a Russian presence and the virtual destruction of indigenous cultures."
https://www.amazon.com/Shamans-Coat-Native-History-Siberia/product-reviews/0802713998/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_hist_2?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=two_star&reviewerType=all_reviews#reviews-filter-bar
"Despite her title and introductory emphasis on the shaman's central position historically, the author is forced to admit that, by the 1970's, "shamans still existed, just." That being the case, the impetus for her journey to post-Soviet Siberia some thirty years later seems dubious. She alludes to a "native Siberian renaissance," of which shamanism would be one indicator. The substance of her book is almost completely at odds with both a general and particular cultural rebirth. An awkward pastiche of travelogue, historical anecdote and ethnography, it evokes the Siberian scene following the collapse of Communism, dominated by a Russian presence and the virtual destruction of indigenous cultures."
https://www.amazon.com/Shamans-Coat-Native-History-Siberia/product-reviews/0802713998/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_hist_2?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=two_star&reviewerType=all_reviews#reviews-filter-bar
https://www.amazon.com/Shamans-Coat-Native-History-Siberia/product-reviews/0802713998/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_hist_2?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=two_star&reviewerType=all_reviews#reviews-filter-bar
7 December 2017 12:39
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
I was thinking it should rise self esteem
You know, it is cute name
You know, it is cute name
7 December 2017 12:37
Margus Meigo commented on Khalid Hassan Mohammed's post.
Group: Central Intelligence Agency
To our American friends
"That's part of your communist game"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ
7 December 2017 12:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasidic_Judaism
"Hasidic thought draws heavily on Lurianic Kabbalah, and, to an extent, is a popularization of it. Teachings emphasize God's immanence in the universe, the need to cleave and be one with Him at all times, the devotional aspect of religious practice, and the spiritual dimension of corporeality and mundane acts. Hasidim, the adherents of Hasidism, are organized in independent sects known as "courts" or dynasties, each headed by its own hereditary leader, a Rebbe. "
Important as welL:
"Present-day Hasidism is a sub-group within Ultra-Orthodox ("Haredi") Judaism, and is noted for its religious conservatism and social seclusion. Its members adhere closely both to Orthodox Jewish practice – with the movement's own unique emphases – and the traditions of Eastern European Jews, so much that many of the latter, including various garments or the use of the Yiddish language, are nowadays associated almost exclusively with Hasidism"
+
"While its mystical and ethical teachings are not easily sharply distinguished from those of other Jewish currents, the defining doctrine of Hasidism is that of the saintly leader, serving both as an ideal inspiration and an institutional figure around whom followers are organized. In the movement's sacral literature, this person is referred to as the Tzaddiq, the Righteous One — often also known by the general honorific Admor (acronym of Hebrew for "our master, teacher and Rabbi"), granted to rabbis in general, or colloquially as Rebbe. The idea that, in every generation, there are righteous persons through whom the divine effluence is drawn to the material world is rooted in the kabbalistic thought, which also claims that one of them is supreme, the reincarnation of Moses. Hasidism elaborated the notion of the Tzaddiq into the basis of its entire system – so much that the very term gained an independent meaning within it, apart from the original which denoted God-fearing, highly observant people"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzadik
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazirite //yes, why not
http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?/topic/32307-long-hair-makes-you-more-psychic/
http://www.globalprayerdigest.org/index.php/issue/day/Shite-Muslim-Kyrgyz-People-of-Kyrgyzstan/
fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Samson_(Shadow_Dragon_and_the_Blade_of_Light)
Lighter;
https://www.nappturality.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-45315.html
engagemagazine.com/content/korean-nazarenes-pioneer-work-mongolia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurianic_Kabbalah
"Lurianic Kabbalah describes new doctrines of the origins of Creation, and the concepts of Olam HaTohu (Hebrew: עולם התהו "The World of Tohu-Chaos") and Olam HaTikun (Hebrew: עולם התיקון "The World of Tikun-Rectification"), which represent two archetypal spiritual states of being and consciousness. These concepts derive from Isaac Luria's interpretation of and mythical speculations on references in the Zohar"
"Hasidic thought draws heavily on Lurianic Kabbalah, and, to an extent, is a popularization of it. Teachings emphasize God's immanence in the universe, the need to cleave and be one with Him at all times, the devotional aspect of religious practice, and the spiritual dimension of corporeality and mundane acts. Hasidim, the adherents of Hasidism, are organized in independent sects known as "courts" or dynasties, each headed by its own hereditary leader, a Rebbe. "
Important as welL:
"Present-day Hasidism is a sub-group within Ultra-Orthodox ("Haredi") Judaism, and is noted for its religious conservatism and social seclusion. Its members adhere closely both to Orthodox Jewish practice – with the movement's own unique emphases – and the traditions of Eastern European Jews, so much that many of the latter, including various garments or the use of the Yiddish language, are nowadays associated almost exclusively with Hasidism"
+
"While its mystical and ethical teachings are not easily sharply distinguished from those of other Jewish currents, the defining doctrine of Hasidism is that of the saintly leader, serving both as an ideal inspiration and an institutional figure around whom followers are organized. In the movement's sacral literature, this person is referred to as the Tzaddiq, the Righteous One — often also known by the general honorific Admor (acronym of Hebrew for "our master, teacher and Rabbi"), granted to rabbis in general, or colloquially as Rebbe. The idea that, in every generation, there are righteous persons through whom the divine effluence is drawn to the material world is rooted in the kabbalistic thought, which also claims that one of them is supreme, the reincarnation of Moses. Hasidism elaborated the notion of the Tzaddiq into the basis of its entire system – so much that the very term gained an independent meaning within it, apart from the original which denoted God-fearing, highly observant people"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzadik
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazirite //yes, why not
http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?/topic/32307-long-hair-makes-you-more-psychic/
http://www.globalprayerdigest.org/index.php/issue/day/Shite-Muslim-Kyrgyz-People-of-Kyrgyzstan/
fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Samson_(Shadow_Dragon_and_the_Blade_of_Light)
Lighter;
https://www.nappturality.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-45315.html
engagemagazine.com/content/korean-nazarenes-pioneer-work-mongolia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurianic_Kabbalah
"Lurianic Kabbalah describes new doctrines of the origins of Creation, and the concepts of Olam HaTohu (Hebrew: עולם התהו "The World of Tohu-Chaos") and Olam HaTikun (Hebrew: עולם התיקון "The World of Tikun-Rectification"), which represent two archetypal spiritual states of being and consciousness. These concepts derive from Isaac Luria's interpretation of and mythical speculations on references in the Zohar"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasidic_Judaism
7 December 2017 12:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Related to...
But what You need is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasidic_Judaism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chabad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaliach_(Chabad)
(need to protect from "Commies")
Can you imagine this robotic commies who stand i n ritual to shoot like that? What is practical use ... how godly is that?
Fake Revolution Commies from Vikings to Republicans
But what You need is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasidic_Judaism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chabad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaliach_(Chabad)
(need to protect from "Commies")
Can you imagine this robotic commies who stand i n ritual to shoot like that? What is practical use ... how godly is that?
Fake Revolution Commies from Vikings to Republicans
7 December 2017 12:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews
7 December 2017 12:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Some strange pop also, from youth, at sames time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGNtxAtf1Sw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGNtxAtf1Sw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGNtxAtf1Sw
7 December 2017 12:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
7 December 2017 12:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and th realist
http://katehon.com/article/donald-trump-realist
http://katehon.com/article/donald-trump-realist
http://katehon.com/article/donald-trump-realist
7 December 2017 12:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So the..
http://katehon.com/1162-the-united-states-must-dissolve-if-america-is-to-survive.html
http://katehon.com/1162-the-united-states-must-dissolve-if-america-is-to-survive.html
http://katehon.com/1162-the-united-states-must-dissolve-if-america-is-to-survive.html
7 December 2017 12:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Eesti ususõjas
(eelkõige mu vastus mõeldud ka seotud videode lugemiseks, salvestage arvutisse ka, mine tea kua mida saab vaadata, )
(kui aadressi YouTube osa vahetate sõna HookTube siis tuleb Youtube kloon kust saab kenasti alla laadida videosi kui vaja)7 December 2017 11:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Eesti ususõjas
Specially aga nemad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3GJx3s8x04
https://youtu.be/CDT2jIerNvw?t=2887 (minut 52 eriti julge)
katehon.com/article/misunderstanding-trumps-america
http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/the-dangerous-philosopher-behind-putins-strategy-to-grow-russian-power-at-americas-expense
http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/article/mind-games-alexander-dugin-and-russia’s-war-ideas
Oluline ka:
katehon.com/article/4th-political-theory-and-post-liberalism
http://katehon.com/article/after-trump-global-liberalism-will-seek-revenge
http://katehon.com/article/five-reasons-why-donald-trump-better-russia
http://katehon.com/article/donald-trump-swamp-and-fire ("swamp" , Soo, on arvatvasti hüüdnimi ka ... kui palju neid maid ikke soode ja rabadega on..)
http://katehon.com/search/node/liberalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo
7 December 2017 11:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Eesti ususõjas
( siin tausta lugu veel kergelt ka Ameerika kristlaste läbi https://youtu.be/1TfDILkOcvo?t=2646 /minut 44 )https://youtu.be/1TfDILkOcvo?t=2646
7 December 2017 11:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Eesti ususõjas
Selel rabi jutt ajast kui ta veel noor oli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NydeKrPAfb0&t=915shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NydeKrPAfb0&t=915s
7 December 2017 11:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Eesti ususõjas
HIm also... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58nnmUe0fwIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58nnmUe0fwI
7 December 2017 11:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Eesti ususõjas
Uudised suudavad isegi SELLISE rabi vastu luuletada loo,
Meelega isegi mitte lastud selgitada.. et mis ta tegelikult huumorina ütles ja mis kontekstis, enamasti tuleb ikka vaadata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJrpAA6NTcA
See nagu enese irooniana, otse tõlgendajate vastu vast?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJrpAA6NTcA
7 December 2017 11:30
Margus Meigo commented on Taimi Asu's post.
Group: Eesti ususõjas
Eeelkõige aga Juutidele,
sest noh, ega see "iisreal" ole lipsumeste ja kommnistide teravate küünistevahel pantvangis siiani ammusest ajast...
Homodel ja Vääruskudel olevat luibatud koolis esineda ametlikult aga vanadel rabidel enamustes kohtades enam mitte, need kes päris habeme ja meie kandist7 December 2017 11:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
7 December 2017 11:22
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7 December 2017 11:17
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7 December 2017 11:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
7 December 2017 10:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"ökosüsteem... sümbioos.."
7 December 2017 10:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja see kes valekäsiraamatuid siin annavad välja, meie käsiraamatuVeski arvates... tuleks iniemsed ilsuti võtta..
kes ja miks kirjutas .. ja suhet luua nendega kes seal siis kettasse läksid, kus need sillad on,
kuidas tõhustada kooostööd, suhtlust
kes ja miks kirjutas .. ja suhet luua nendega kes seal siis kettasse läksid, kus need sillad on,
kuidas tõhustada kooostööd, suhtlust
7 December 2017 10:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Ameerika LoL"
"Niinimetatud natsilebelisus"
// tõsiselt ei võeta varsti Eestlasi, kui suur osa unustama kipub, et maailm me õlul, ka sellega, kriisiäärel olevana...
et me ei pruugi ise oma riigiga hakkama iseseisvalt eestlastena, enamuses, ise ahkkama saada kui välismaa peaks tarne lopetama... aga misk peaks tarne loppema eks
// Vhava kirjatükk..
Kuid yea sellsied videopildid ka video arhiivis
"Niinimetatud natsilebelisus"
// tõsiselt ei võeta varsti Eestlasi, kui suur osa unustama kipub, et maailm me õlul, ka sellega, kriisiäärel olevana...
et me ei pruugi ise oma riigiga hakkama iseseisvalt eestlastena, enamuses, ise ahkkama saada kui välismaa peaks tarne lopetama... aga misk peaks tarne loppema eks
// Vhava kirjatükk..
Kuid yea sellsied videopildid ka video arhiivis
7 December 2017 10:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aa nimi ka Dimitry :D:DD:D:D
7 December 2017 10:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kas Televisooni enam saab
reaalselt kasutada,
kui vene aksendiga kiilakas lipsuga mees meiel räägib sellest, kas
kunslikult tekitatud, meelelhutuslikult see info nagu oleksime turvalised,
või on see reaalne võimalikus, et peale selle, et Jumal me poolel, on ka reaalne vastutus ja teadlikus selles osas, mida ja kudias rahvas märkama ja õppima peaks,
käituma
reaalselt kasutada,
kui vene aksendiga kiilakas lipsuga mees meiel räägib sellest, kas
kunslikult tekitatud, meelelhutuslikult see info nagu oleksime turvalised,
või on see reaalne võimalikus, et peale selle, et Jumal me poolel, on ka reaalne vastutus ja teadlikus selles osas, mida ja kudias rahvas märkama ja õppima peaks,
käituma
7 December 2017 10:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Võimekust vist ple eriti, kuigi midagi ikka võrdlemisi on...
... nu ,,, need kes ütevad, et hästi
kas nad tegelikutl saavad aru ka tehnoloogia arengu Tippudest
ja tehnoloogiatest mida nad kasutada saavad ja mis reaalselt võimalikud, juhtudel kui UN või keegi, EU, USA peak kaitse ära võtma,
Ja meid meie maal mitte teaviada sellest msi meil siin toimub..
et siis miss thenoloogiaid oleks neil võimali kasutada ja kui kiiresti reaalselt keegi oskab kasutada... praeguseid vahendied et eid maksimaalselt kaitsta,
võrreldes selelga mis olemas on ja mis moodi seda saaks kasutada,
kui
https://etv.err.ee/v/meelelahutus/terevisioon/terevisiooni_lood/7bd0b9ea-857d-44ec-a46a-dbafec642bed/uuring-annab-ulevaate-baltimaade-vastupanuvoimest-venemaa-propagandale
... nu ,,, need kes ütevad, et hästi
kas nad tegelikutl saavad aru ka tehnoloogia arengu Tippudest
ja tehnoloogiatest mida nad kasutada saavad ja mis reaalselt võimalikud, juhtudel kui UN või keegi, EU, USA peak kaitse ära võtma,
Ja meid meie maal mitte teaviada sellest msi meil siin toimub..
et siis miss thenoloogiaid oleks neil võimali kasutada ja kui kiiresti reaalselt keegi oskab kasutada... praeguseid vahendied et eid maksimaalselt kaitsta,
võrreldes selelga mis olemas on ja mis moodi seda saaks kasutada,
kui
https://etv.err.ee/v/meelelahutus/terevisioon/terevisiooni_lood/7bd0b9ea-857d-44ec-a46a-dbafec642bed/uuring-annab-ulevaate-baltimaade-vastupanuvoimest-venemaa-propagandale
https://etv.err.ee/v/meelelahutus/terevisioon/terevisiooni_lood/7bd0b9ea-857d-44ec-a46a-dbafec642bed/uuring-annab-ulevaate-baltimaade-vastupanuvoimest-venemaa-propagandale
7 December 2017 10:18
Margus Meigo replied to Margus Meigo's comment.
Sest mõtted võivad jääda, mine team is kujutlsued aidatakse luua, lugeda, mida ei lubata pärimusrahval hoida, kui arusaama hakatakse tegeliku lõplikku võimu, UN ilt ja üle,
lõpuks, kordategensie lopp faasis
lõpuks, kordategensie lopp faasis
7 December 2017 10:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
And how it become:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10213661041017052.1073741894.1135161043&type=3
And how it is
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10213661041017052.1073741894.1135161043&type=3
And how it is
7 December 2017 09:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
How to Get there:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10213661041017052.1073741894.1135161043&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10213661041017052.1073741894.1135161043&type=3
7 December 2017 09:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yes, when You are at 1983, then You Also are in potential of water-pig wild-wood-water-pig
but if You Really are, is when You recognize yourself in it
but if You Really are, is when You recognize yourself in it
7 December 2017 09:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Nu
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213661031096804
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213661031096804
7 December 2017 09:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And for sure,
https://proip-pact.blogspot.com.ee/
https://proip-pact.blogspot.com.ee/
https://proip-pact.blogspot.com.ee/
7 December 2017 09:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(V.a. hezekiel)
7 December 2017 08:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(pildid on illustratiivsed, kuid eeldatavasti suunalised)
7 December 2017 08:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Also remember the:
Research Works Act (RWA) #HR3699
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_Works_Act
https://cyber.harvard.edu/hoap/Notes_on_the_Research_Works_Act
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3334566/
http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=807
https://svpow.com/2012/01/09/do-your-bit-to-oppose-the-evil-research-works-act/
Named like this: ""To ensure the continued publication and integrity of peer-reviewed research works by the private sector." —H.R. 3699"
(in reallity: "taxpayers who already paid for the research would have to pay again to read the results")
(publishers now — charging both authors and readers, and trying to get laws passed supporting their outdated and corrupt business model)
(This bill would not only end the NIH’s Public Access Policy, but it would forbid any effort on the part of any agency to ensure taxpayer access to work funded by the federal government.).
(They are using intentionally misleading language to distinguish works funded by the government but carried out by a non-governmental agency as “private sector research”. Thus, under this bill, works funded by the NIH but carried at a University would be “private sector research”.
This language is in there because the US Copyright Act specifically denies copyright protection to works carried out by federal agencies, and the authors of this bill did not want it to be seen as amending Copyright Act, something that would have ensured its defeat)
The bill was supported by the Association of American Publishers (AAP) and the Copyright Alliance / 2011
RWA attempt on 2009 was "Conyers Bill - #HR801"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Copyright_in_Research_Works_Act
https://techcrunch.com/2012/02/15/the-dangerous-research-works-act/
www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2812%2960125-1/fulltext
( Libraries view the bill as a threat to the "state-of-the-art digital repository where research can be preserved," that the policy provides and a potential loss of acquired research due to the bill's prohibition of copyright transfer from author to publisher)
(The NIH Public Access Policy is a policy which mandates that articles reporting research funded by the National Institutes of Health must be made available to the public for free through PubMed Central within 12 months of publication.)
("Conyers Bill") was submitted as a direct response to the National Institutes of Health (NIH) Public Access Policy; intending to reverse it)
Research Works Act (RWA) #HR3699
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_Works_Act
https://cyber.harvard.edu/hoap/Notes_on_the_Research_Works_Act
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3334566/
http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=807
https://svpow.com/2012/01/09/do-your-bit-to-oppose-the-evil-research-works-act/
Named like this: ""To ensure the continued publication and integrity of peer-reviewed research works by the private sector." —H.R. 3699"
(in reallity: "taxpayers who already paid for the research would have to pay again to read the results")
(publishers now — charging both authors and readers, and trying to get laws passed supporting their outdated and corrupt business model)
(This bill would not only end the NIH’s Public Access Policy, but it would forbid any effort on the part of any agency to ensure taxpayer access to work funded by the federal government.).
(They are using intentionally misleading language to distinguish works funded by the government but carried out by a non-governmental agency as “private sector research”. Thus, under this bill, works funded by the NIH but carried at a University would be “private sector research”.
This language is in there because the US Copyright Act specifically denies copyright protection to works carried out by federal agencies, and the authors of this bill did not want it to be seen as amending Copyright Act, something that would have ensured its defeat)
The bill was supported by the Association of American Publishers (AAP) and the Copyright Alliance / 2011
RWA attempt on 2009 was "Conyers Bill - #HR801"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Copyright_in_Research_Works_Act
https://techcrunch.com/2012/02/15/the-dangerous-research-works-act/
www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2812%2960125-1/fulltext
( Libraries view the bill as a threat to the "state-of-the-art digital repository where research can be preserved," that the policy provides and a potential loss of acquired research due to the bill's prohibition of copyright transfer from author to publisher)
(The NIH Public Access Policy is a policy which mandates that articles reporting research funded by the National Institutes of Health must be made available to the public for free through PubMed Central within 12 months of publication.)
("Conyers Bill") was submitted as a direct response to the National Institutes of Health (NIH) Public Access Policy; intending to reverse it)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_Works_Act
6 December 2017 15:07
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
6 December 2017 12:53
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
ma ei viitsi mingit jura ajada siin VLC de ja koventeritega,
Mul vaja LIHTSAT ühe nupuvajutusega, mp3 salvestust (umbes 96kbps)
(mud varjandid võivad olla lisaks),
see peaks lihtne asi olema siin maailmas leida, kuid üllatuseks tuleb, et polegi... sadade tuhandete tarkvarade hulgas, väga vähe silma jäänud mis kasutada kõlbab
Mul vaja LIHTSAT ühe nupuvajutusega, mp3 salvestust (umbes 96kbps)
(mud varjandid võivad olla lisaks),
see peaks lihtne asi olema siin maailmas leida, kuid üllatuseks tuleb, et polegi... sadade tuhandete tarkvarade hulgas, väga vähe silma jäänud mis kasutada kõlbab
6 December 2017 12:45
Margus Meigo commented on Dennis Cheli's photo.
Nice,
Only thing these kind of pictures need, is natural longer beard : )
(western-roman-empire will try to cut down most of our hairs and force us wear communist-capitalist slave-robot-uniform like Ties and suits... not letting us easy to any job and making people think less then good about beards.... even in church most priests have cut them self hairless.. sad really, )
But picture is beautiful still!
Only thing these kind of pictures need, is natural longer beard : )
(western-roman-empire will try to cut down most of our hairs and force us wear communist-capitalist slave-robot-uniform like Ties and suits... not letting us easy to any job and making people think less then good about beards.... even in church most priests have cut them self hairless.. sad really, )
But picture is beautiful still!
6 December 2017 12:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
5 December 2017 00:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
esimene eksimus(?) oli neil minut 7 peal, et korraks loogika murdus, et MIKS siis see plaan Taolise strateegia lõppeesmärk ja milleks neil meid vaja taolisena... midagi jäi nagu ütlemata ja siis eeldati, emotsiooniga, et ainult valu ja... nu eks neil shamaani,prohveti teamdised vist docist puudu eeldan enne lõppu, vaatame edasi, kas(kuidas) jumalike taimede olemusest räägivad, mis panevad inimest Jumalat tunnetama, arusaama(Tundma) teisi ja end kohustust alluda heale
--
Minut 18 lõpus ka veidre vea vari, et teatsid, et nood olid tulnud Tähtedest (aga teistmoodi kosmosest kui nad ise kohe rääkima hakkavad, et nüüd uskuma panna soovitakse?)4 December 2017 23:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
(saatke molemad tõlke tegemiseks, hulga parem kui see weider KGB pol stiilis acultismy promo , TallinnaTV s http://bit.ly/Taevariik
ja tagasihoidlik hämamine, nagu Nad ei teaks kui mitu taset rohkem teadlikud ollakse, mis valgused, hämarad taldrikud, , Naeruväärne oleks rääkida taldrikutest, kui olemas inimkuju transformeerivad olendid
)4 December 2017 22:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Varsti Eesti suubtiitrid, vabandust kui veel pole.
Panen paar kontroll pilti ka siia sisse varsti, et kindlustada, et teile ikka samasi videosi näidatakse (lihtne moodus vaikseks sensoriks kui videod muudetuna mängivad, sest inimesed enamasti sügavalt ei aruta olulise nähtud sisu detailides)4 December 2017 22:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid lahendusi on ka, näiteks tarkade vajalike asjade arusaadavaks-leitavaks koos moraalik00diga
4 December 2017 22:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nendel tegeleastel.. pole nothing on us.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0nOaZluwA8
ja ärge laske uinutada ennast mititataoliste asjadega... ikka tuleb neid teemasi palju sügavamalt ja tõeväärsemalt võtta.. sügavamalt, suuremalt...
ja ärge laske uinutada ennast mititataoliste asjadega... ikka tuleb neid teemasi palju sügavamalt ja tõeväärsemalt võtta.. sügavamalt, suuremalt...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0nOaZluwA8
4 December 2017 21:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
" Tere!
Kolmapäeval, 6. detsembril kell 17.30 toimub Kiek in de Kökis (Komandandi tee 2) Eesti Regionaal - ja Vähemuskeelte Liidu juhatuse aseesimehe Kalle Elleri loeng teemal "Hispaania vähemusrahvused katalaanid ja baskid". Juttu tuleb nende rahvuste keeltest, ajaloost ning olukorrast tänapäeva Hispaanias. Osalemine muuseumi sooduspiletiga 4 EUR.
OLETE OODATUD!
Jüri
Kaaskirjas käesoleva aasta novembrikuust, mis 100 aasta taguse ülegi lüüa võib:
USA: Mueller tegutseb, Flynn süüdi, kesjärgmine
Venemaa: taigakalifaat
Ukraina: Luhansk
Saksamaa: Frederick II varjus
Euroopa: kas võtab vastu? "
#linnamuuseum #LMklubi
Kolmapäeval, 6. detsembril kell 17.30 toimub Kiek in de Kökis (Komandandi tee 2) Eesti Regionaal - ja Vähemuskeelte Liidu juhatuse aseesimehe Kalle Elleri loeng teemal "Hispaania vähemusrahvused katalaanid ja baskid". Juttu tuleb nende rahvuste keeltest, ajaloost ning olukorrast tänapäeva Hispaanias. Osalemine muuseumi sooduspiletiga 4 EUR.
OLETE OODATUD!
Jüri
Kaaskirjas käesoleva aasta novembrikuust, mis 100 aasta taguse ülegi lüüa võib:
USA: Mueller tegutseb, Flynn süüdi, kesjärgmine
Venemaa: taigakalifaat
Ukraina: Luhansk
Saksamaa: Frederick II varjus
Euroopa: kas võtab vastu? "
#linnamuuseum #LMklubi
4 December 2017 16:25
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
for me the game is to accept others feeds of society groups who believe it to be game instead of a true reality what is behind it, even if someones are forced to be as toys in game (who is programmer, for who and why %& what does it do for gamers (+new rules or explaining "gamers" their own endgame at least))
// + picture where mind is moving between screens and predestined feeds //will find picture then add it here
// + picture where mind is moving between screens and predestined feeds //will find picture then add it here
3 December 2017 14:39
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
ne
3 December 2017 05:31
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
(i wanted to say, that this was most high level spark on my FP sessions, only coparable to levels of Laura C. But that would be a to rushed compliment in this kind of magnitude , so will keep that, but yeah, did some of us know we for some time in guarentee )
3 December 2017 05:31
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
sad terror for these who was forced to be in between mashines in states where mind saw what was done
3 December 2017 05:29
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
proper birth.... yeah, that might be a philosophy lesson in innovative schools ,"what that might be, the proper birth..." (for true humans, not the ones in hospitals and who knows why kind of parents fallowers )
3 December 2017 05:27
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
You just wrote something most beautiful i have ever seen on my screen as i know
3 December 2017 05:26
Margus Meigo commented on Michael Dickinson's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
Did they know what we did in heart with all the buildings we touched ?3 December 2017 05:20
Margus Meigo replied to David Dickson's comment.
Sander Viirmaa - Nicotine is only smart for enslaving purposes ,
perhaps exceptional smart usage with a pray for a effect that this spirit connects far lengths.. so you can inject in to nicotine common realty level's your own temporally agenda to sift the parameters, hopefully,
smart drugs in my school is not a drugs that uses YOU cleverly but what allows you to be smart-clever-more
perhaps exceptional smart usage with a pray for a effect that this spirit connects far lengths.. so you can inject in to nicotine common realty level's your own temporally agenda to sift the parameters, hopefully,
smart drugs in my school is not a drugs that uses YOU cleverly but what allows you to be smart-clever-more
3 December 2017 04:40
Margus Meigo replied to David Dickson's comment.
occasional mostly
3 December 2017 04:37
Margus Meigo replied to David Dickson's comment.
but make sure to poost up-forward from there with proper usage of other plant and plant tools (chemical representations - instructions to a boy-mind-to-open-spirit-feelings-dreams and possibilities what more can You get actually done for people when productive and can be sure about one self, not to get drunk on Inside Job)
3 December 2017 04:37
Margus Meigo replied to David Dickson's comment.
Good timing, this is about the time we meet first time
3 December 2017 04:35
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
but as there is fear against mistaking in topics related to ultimate love in combination with learned dependency issues to temporally comfort ... then yeah, well, at least keep moving forward in baby steps, and thinking, fishing same time for waves to pull me self up to another plane
3 December 2017 04:31
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
if i only would got the plants or tools in home to put me in to state of mind to tune in to discipline and motivation
// with ongoing hope and living material's (peaceful place / company / privacy / countryside / warm & food storage)
// with ongoing hope and living material's (peaceful place / company / privacy / countryside / warm & food storage)
3 December 2017 04:29
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
interesting,
But what method there is to get me focused and trusted and motivated to start to implement the method without (something's that are missing..)
----- .... The one is final proper : ?
There are six steps in the original technique:
Decide on the task to be done.
Set the pomodoro timer (traditionally to 25 minutes).[1]
Work on the task.
End work when the timer rings and put a checkmark on a piece of paper.[5]
If you have fewer than four checkmarks, take a short break (3–5 minutes), then go to step 2.
After four pomodoros, take a longer break (15–30 minutes), reset your checkmark count to zero, then go to step 1.
The stages of planning, tracking, recording, processing and visualizing are fundamental to the technique. In the planning phase tasks are prioritized by recording them in a "To Do Today" list. This enables users to estimate the effort tasks require. As pomodoros are completed, they are recorded, adding to a sense of accomplishment and providing raw data for subsequent self-observation and improvemen
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But what method there is to get me focused and trusted and motivated to start to implement the method without (something's that are missing..)
----- .... The one is final proper : ?
There are six steps in the original technique:
Decide on the task to be done.
Set the pomodoro timer (traditionally to 25 minutes).[1]
Work on the task.
End work when the timer rings and put a checkmark on a piece of paper.[5]
If you have fewer than four checkmarks, take a short break (3–5 minutes), then go to step 2.
After four pomodoros, take a longer break (15–30 minutes), reset your checkmark count to zero, then go to step 1.
The stages of planning, tracking, recording, processing and visualizing are fundamental to the technique. In the planning phase tasks are prioritized by recording them in a "To Do Today" list. This enables users to estimate the effort tasks require. As pomodoros are completed, they are recorded, adding to a sense of accomplishment and providing raw data for subsequent self-observation and improvemen
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3 December 2017 04:20
Margus Meigo replied to Rea Raus's comment.
Minu link lõpus ka selle sarviku moodustest räägib,
Kuid, Mis moodi see nüüd olla saab, lugedes pealkirja sisu ja kaaskommetaare kergelt, et
mingi nii lõhestav asi, et oleks ekre poolitanud (nagu jumalus ja jumalatus)
ja siis
ja siis öeldakse, et see asi mida molemad tegid ja kuidas nad käitusid, on kooskõlas Kirikuga?
( Tõsimeeli, seni kuni arusaadakse, et inim mehe ja Naise liitumist kus Mees hiljem on hinge lunastab ja saab Paradiisi SELLE Naise läbi kellega ta liitus, mehena ainult maalt minema pikameelse rahuliku elutöö lõpus, minu Matriarhaatlikus tunnetuses, seega kui keegi muud versiooni proovida soovib siis kuhu Jumala suunas nad sündida saavad, kes neid ootab naistest... )
Kuid jah, selles osas pikemalt siin lingis kuhu enda soperdisi kokku klopsin seni kuni saan paremini,
kuid läks liiga pikaks ja ka sellepärast hoopis jätan siia lisalugemiseks, kellel eriline huvi mu arusaame proovida mõista:
http://margus-meigo.blogspot.com/2017/12/voib-olla-et-teksti-votmed-on-mujal.html
Kuid, Mis moodi see nüüd olla saab, lugedes pealkirja sisu ja kaaskommetaare kergelt, et
mingi nii lõhestav asi, et oleks ekre poolitanud (nagu jumalus ja jumalatus)
ja siis
ja siis öeldakse, et see asi mida molemad tegid ja kuidas nad käitusid, on kooskõlas Kirikuga?
( Tõsimeeli, seni kuni arusaadakse, et inim mehe ja Naise liitumist kus Mees hiljem on hinge lunastab ja saab Paradiisi SELLE Naise läbi kellega ta liitus, mehena ainult maalt minema pikameelse rahuliku elutöö lõpus, minu Matriarhaatlikus tunnetuses, seega kui keegi muud versiooni proovida soovib siis kuhu Jumala suunas nad sündida saavad, kes neid ootab naistest... )
Kuid jah, selles osas pikemalt siin lingis kuhu enda soperdisi kokku klopsin seni kuni saan paremini,
kuid läks liiga pikaks ja ka sellepärast hoopis jätan siia lisalugemiseks, kellel eriline huvi mu arusaame proovida mõista:
http://margus-meigo.blogspot.com/2017/12/voib-olla-et-teksti-votmed-on-mujal.html
http://margus-meigo.blogspot.com/2017/12/voib-olla-et-teksti-votmed-on-mujal.html
3 December 2017 02:49
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Kaasik's post.
saan aru ka, et teema mureprobleem oli siis:
" Telesaade «Suud puhtaks» keskendus kolmapäeval kooseluseadusele. Nagu ikka, olid kohal nii samasooliste kooselu toetajad kui ka vastased. Kõige enam tähelepanu pälvis Risti koguduse õpetaja Annika Laatsi toetus geidele.
«Olen kirikuõpetaja ja julgen öelda, et võtan Jumalat väga tõsiselt. See ongi põhjus, miks ma täna siin saates olen. Ja see on see põhjus, miks ma läbi aastate olen seisnud geide eest,» ütles Laats.
EELK peapiiskop Urmas Viilma ütles eile saadet kommenteerides, et on Laatsiga suhelnud ja palunud temalt selgitust, miks ta toetas avalikult EELK põhimõtetest erinevat seisukohta. Peapiiskopi sõnul lubas Laats selgitusi anda kirikuvalitsuse ees, mis koguneb järgmine kord novembris "
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Eks see tüli võib veel viia sinnamaani, et Naisi ei lubata enam kõrgelt Kiriku otsa, sest nad jumalavastaseid emotsionaalseid otsuseid võivad osade arvates teha, targad otsused ka samamoodi sama sildialla pannakse,
// kuid HingeTeadus keelati... vt. " Teaduslik Psüholoogia ja Elu
Prof. K. Rammul " - ka kohe raamatu alguses teemadel, kuidas Hing HingeÕpetusest väljavõeti, selle osavalt ja jugelt mainis vast tol ajal oma elutööna to ümberkirjutaja, nii julgelt, et see arusaam tulevikus alles jääks kui midagi muud mitte.
Ja kui Hing väljas, siis keelatud ka need alad mida Su Naine praegu minuteada Eestis absoluutse tipuna on julgenud nähtavale tuua Marko.
" Telesaade «Suud puhtaks» keskendus kolmapäeval kooseluseadusele. Nagu ikka, olid kohal nii samasooliste kooselu toetajad kui ka vastased. Kõige enam tähelepanu pälvis Risti koguduse õpetaja Annika Laatsi toetus geidele.
«Olen kirikuõpetaja ja julgen öelda, et võtan Jumalat väga tõsiselt. See ongi põhjus, miks ma täna siin saates olen. Ja see on see põhjus, miks ma läbi aastate olen seisnud geide eest,» ütles Laats.
EELK peapiiskop Urmas Viilma ütles eile saadet kommenteerides, et on Laatsiga suhelnud ja palunud temalt selgitust, miks ta toetas avalikult EELK põhimõtetest erinevat seisukohta. Peapiiskopi sõnul lubas Laats selgitusi anda kirikuvalitsuse ees, mis koguneb järgmine kord novembris "
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Eks see tüli võib veel viia sinnamaani, et Naisi ei lubata enam kõrgelt Kiriku otsa, sest nad jumalavastaseid emotsionaalseid otsuseid võivad osade arvates teha, targad otsused ka samamoodi sama sildialla pannakse,
// kuid HingeTeadus keelati... vt. " Teaduslik Psüholoogia ja Elu
Prof. K. Rammul " - ka kohe raamatu alguses teemadel, kuidas Hing HingeÕpetusest väljavõeti, selle osavalt ja jugelt mainis vast tol ajal oma elutööna to ümberkirjutaja, nii julgelt, et see arusaam tulevikus alles jääks kui midagi muud mitte.
Ja kui Hing väljas, siis keelatud ka need alad mida Su Naine praegu minuteada Eestis absoluutse tipuna on julgenud nähtavale tuua Marko.
3 December 2017 00:43
Margus Meigo replied to David Dickson's comment.
bdw, Important note David!
2 December 2017 18:48
Margus Meigo replied to David Dickson's comment.
Yes, this was long time ago when i realized the faults of drunkening (cowardliness of alcohol) and anti-smoking revolution was in early puberty
long before i realized the clever and powerful tools, that smoking is used for to keep society in epidemic delirium.,
Now is only plants and tools that help to keep mind clear and in tune with spirit and what we are able to write down and plan (bring back from Revelation-Creation states of mind)
related to needs that humans should serve to
long before i realized the clever and powerful tools, that smoking is used for to keep society in epidemic delirium.,
Now is only plants and tools that help to keep mind clear and in tune with spirit and what we are able to write down and plan (bring back from Revelation-Creation states of mind)
related to needs that humans should serve to
2 December 2017 18:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Will Drump be the kind of man who will protect this brave American Woman,
in these situations
https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=R-S5WdvQrkQ&t=610s
in these situations
https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=R-S5WdvQrkQ&t=610s
2 December 2017 05:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 December 2017 05:30
Margus Meigo replied to Ai Mar's comment.
Sander Viirmaa rus, mu e.exe ka käima said v
karupoeg puh(h)i oma
karupoeg puh(h)i oma
2 December 2017 04:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"DUncan" sounded so manly.. it bothered , for up to now
2 December 2017 03:50
Margus Meigo commented on Shelly M Duncan-rothschild's photo.
Oh, You woman : )
// did not open picture before, just looked small icon
You in direction of good, right ?
// did not open picture before, just looked small icon
You in direction of good, right ?
2 December 2017 03:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but is it still good to criticize others? I would like-to keep that, as bible tells: when one loves correction then heart is on good path
2 December 2017 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on Christina Marie Riggs's post.
yes
2 December 2017 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on Christina Marie Riggs's photo.
a little bit too horny for a christmas
2 December 2017 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
2 December 2017 02:17
Margus Meigo commented on Christina Marie Riggs's live video.
When anyone needs money late,r keep me in contact, and i will tell You how can be all that possible //
2 December 2017 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on Christina Marie Riggs's live video.
it's not everyday people imagine that is normal and ordinary to see "Rothschild" name
in live chat
What ya talking about people ?
//lisssten Jaanika Sillamäe - Lootus,
from Youtbe, this cures
in live chat
What ya talking about people ?
//lisssten Jaanika Sillamäe - Lootus,
from Youtbe, this cures
2 December 2017 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 December 2017 01:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või näiteks see, et täisarhiivi le viitamislinki nad ei aita leida kergesti ega mooduseid mida lisada, mida mitte...
// ehk sellepärast mu konteiner data süsteem ka aitaks asju paremini ümber korraldada.
Vanasti sai DVDl mitmel inimesel telllitud enda täis kogu info mis FB il olemas on info,
kahju, et need olukorrad maha magati nende tolle aegsete võimalustega mis nad lubasid sule saata ja näidata kui tellid,
ja seda lausa pakuti, tausta, et ise maksavad postigi füüsilise kinni, mis oli imeline
// ehk sellepärast mu konteiner data süsteem ka aitaks asju paremini ümber korraldada.
Vanasti sai DVDl mitmel inimesel telllitud enda täis kogu info mis FB il olemas on info,
kahju, et need olukorrad maha magati nende tolle aegsete võimalustega mis nad lubasid sule saata ja näidata kui tellid,
ja seda lausa pakuti, tausta, et ise maksavad postigi füüsilise kinni, mis oli imeline
2 December 2017 01:52
Margus Meigo replied to Ai Mar's comment.
ja sellised lihtsad asjad nagu, Lisada kindel link otse täis ja muu official versioonide lehele, minimalistlikule, kus kõik selgelt olemas , aga neeh... vaja miskeid downloadereid paigaldada, et siis saaks arvestust pidada kui palju kordi installitakse ja mine tea veel kes ../
2 December 2017 01:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Huvitav kas mul endal sedasi kirjapandut ka suurem kasu on, või kogunisti väga oluline, lisamõõde, milleks veel vaja, et meeles hoida võimalikku võimatut...)
2 December 2017 01:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
lainelised , viilud. Pigem seda algus arvata, kui hakata visualiseerima otse ühendust liiga limiteeritud asukohast,
igga vaadakse, oodake kuni mõõde täis on,
Veel
igga vaadakse, oodake kuni mõõde täis on,
Veel
2 December 2017 01:41
Margus Meigo replied to Ai Mar's comment.
piiravad enda moodi, meelega mitte arvestades raskete olukordades raskemaks tegemisega, meelega mitte arvestamisega, sellenimel, et enda külge rohkemselliselt siduda nagu neil muude skeemidagi igaksjuhuks võib vaja minna
2 December 2017 01:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Ja muuhulgas, üks eelnev postitus:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213617719774048
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213617719774048
2 December 2017 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Link location
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213617699973553&set=a.10213617699733547.1073741892.1135161043&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213617699973553&set=a.10213617699733547.1073741892.1135161043&type=3
2 December 2017 01:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja ega FB ilgi hiilata polnud, kuna otse valikud kohe meilijaoks siis vahetama ma setinguid ei soovinud, viimanekordsetinguid vaetades kaotasin asjad oma profiililt mida enam tagasi panna ei saa ja menüüsigi pole sellsieid mis enne mul infos vajalikku kuvas... ja lihtsalt et ühe asja juurde lisada, kustus hunnik profiili osasi ära mida enne näitas, kuid nüüd need teenused inimestele mitte teatavateks teha soovitaks,e seega neid ei mainita, mifda ei mainita, uued inimesed sinna ei jookse ja võõrduvad nii kiiresti usku andes uuele platformile, et neid asja õiges põhimõttes raske hoida, väga suure võõrdumisena kohe paratamatult vähegi mõistuse pärane juba ekstreemselt vastuolus elementaarsete lühiaja tegevuste hulgajuures juba oleks,
seega tülid kõikide vahel, peaks olema võimalik arvutada... selle eelmise lause mõtte ots kuid mida ja kudias arvutada, ma veel välja ütlema ei hakka, isegi lõpuni proovin selle mõeld,a tolle lause lõpuni kirjutamisel, : )
seega tülid kõikide vahel, peaks olema võimalik arvutada... selle eelmise lause mõtte ots kuid mida ja kudias arvutada, ma veel välja ütlema ei hakka, isegi lõpuni proovin selle mõeld,a tolle lause lõpuni kirjutamisel, : )
2 December 2017 01:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 December 2017 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui sa selle ette regad .us iga siis ... anna meile ka teada palun, siis teame ülesse korjata heaga
2 December 2017 01:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
#koostegevus
2 December 2017 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Suure N. iga muidugi on alles siis, kui
on millegi pärast altari juures koos käidud ja rahulikus kontides läbi koostegevuse
on millegi pärast altari juures koos käidud ja rahulikus kontides läbi koostegevuse
2 December 2017 01:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But grateful we are, that this kind of possibility come, was made, for us to see what is inside
2 December 2017 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Why they Choose out of all SIGARETTE picture in lower corner is beoon me,
was it me, who added this kind and forget to ask, what w?
What kind of weird small pictures, why ?
Auto tagged pictures can do even better when when selected: Face, / Nature / car (last part "anti tag" eg. meaning tagging for items You do Not want A.I. to choose , specially when there is available given possibilities )
// see et otse ekraani kuvada mis teiselpool seeaeg oli, et kommentid pöördvöördelises, võrdelises, oleksid nii võimelisena vaatama mis tooaeg tööplaanil oli kui ka seda mis ümber kuulda ja näha oli teatud olukordades, ning muude mõtete sisud mis kuskilt näha
was it me, who added this kind and forget to ask, what w?
What kind of weird small pictures, why ?
Auto tagged pictures can do even better when when selected: Face, / Nature / car (last part "anti tag" eg. meaning tagging for items You do Not want A.I. to choose , specially when there is available given possibilities )
// see et otse ekraani kuvada mis teiselpool seeaeg oli, et kommentid pöördvöördelises, võrdelises, oleksid nii võimelisena vaatama mis tooaeg tööplaanil oli kui ka seda mis ümber kuulda ja näha oli teatud olukordades, ning muude mõtete sisud mis kuskilt näha
2 December 2017 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
läheme kunsnikutena neile appi
2 December 2017 01:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 December 2017 00:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
As i told years ago... better to download All needed things off the Youtube and make contact with the uploaders as well, human contact
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/7gk3j2/youtubeteosto_just_blocked_most_of_music_videos/
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/7gk3j2/youtubeteosto_just_blocked_most_of_music_videos/
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/7gk3j2/youtubeteosto_just_blocked_most_of_music_videos/
2 December 2017 00:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" In a bizarre turn of events, today Google blocked thousands of music videos on YouTube in Finland after the company failed to immediately reach a licensing agreement with local performance copyrights agency, Teosto.
“We were unable to reach a new licensing agreement with TEOSTO. Because of this, some videos containing music will be blocked in Finland,” YouTube warned on its website.
The news comes only days before the nation will be celebrating 100 years of independence on December 6. But due to these unforeseen circumstances, thousands of Finnish netizens might be unable to stream the national anthem on this memorable day, because YouTube has blocked it off. "
https://thenextweb.com/google/2017/11/30/google-youtube-finland-music-videos/
“We were unable to reach a new licensing agreement with TEOSTO. Because of this, some videos containing music will be blocked in Finland,” YouTube warned on its website.
The news comes only days before the nation will be celebrating 100 years of independence on December 6. But due to these unforeseen circumstances, thousands of Finnish netizens might be unable to stream the national anthem on this memorable day, because YouTube has blocked it off. "
https://thenextweb.com/google/2017/11/30/google-youtube-finland-music-videos/
https://thenextweb.com/google/2017/11/30/google-youtube-finland-music-videos/
2 December 2017 00:13
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
kuigi noh, crome on crome..
1 December 2017 21:29
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Sander Viirmaa leia mulle parem mingi mõistlik mp3 lindistaja tasuta
see mp3Mymp3 4.2 pooldeist giga mälu võtab mone ajaga, ja muidu mitmeti hea, kova kvaliteediga kuid uims ikka jah.
tund aega otsinud ja imestama panud ,et googleesimesena puhta risu pakub
see mp3Mymp3 4.2 pooldeist giga mälu võtab mone ajaga, ja muidu mitmeti hea, kova kvaliteediga kuid uims ikka jah.
tund aega otsinud ja imestama panud ,et googleesimesena puhta risu pakub
1 December 2017 21:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.facebook.com/NORADIOWORLD/posts/1654294721257839
1 December 2017 21:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
in News:
https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/youtube_takes_down_finnish_music_videos_as_licenses_run_out/9955587
"The world's largest online video service, YouTube, took down a big chunk of the Finnish music hosted on the platform on Thursday morning after an agreement on licensing ran out.
The organisation responsible for administering copyright in the Finnish music industry, Teosto, said that a new, temporary contract was agreed on Thursday morning—but it could be days before all the videos are back up.
On Thursday morning users located in Finland who tried to view videos of many recording artists were greeted with a message that the content was owned by Teosto, and therefore 'not available in your country'.
Teosto told Yle on Thursday that it had reached an agreement with Google, which owns YouTube, and that the blocking of content was at Google's own initiative.
"Contract negotiations between Teosto and Google have been conducted in good faith," said Teosto's deputy managing director, @Risto Salminen .
Teosto represents some 30,000 recording artists
...
https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/youtube_takes_down_finnish_music_videos_as_licenses_run_out/9955587
"The world's largest online video service, YouTube, took down a big chunk of the Finnish music hosted on the platform on Thursday morning after an agreement on licensing ran out.
The organisation responsible for administering copyright in the Finnish music industry, Teosto, said that a new, temporary contract was agreed on Thursday morning—but it could be days before all the videos are back up.
On Thursday morning users located in Finland who tried to view videos of many recording artists were greeted with a message that the content was owned by Teosto, and therefore 'not available in your country'.
Teosto told Yle on Thursday that it had reached an agreement with Google, which owns YouTube, and that the blocking of content was at Google's own initiative.
"Contract negotiations between Teosto and Google have been conducted in good faith," said Teosto's deputy managing director, @Risto Salminen .
Teosto represents some 30,000 recording artists
...
https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/youtube_takes_down_finnish_music_videos_as_licenses_run_out/9955587
1 December 2017 21:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Why has content been withdrawn from YouTube?
Google has withdrawn music content from the Finnish YouTube. In the background to this happening are prolonged agreement negotiations between Teosto and Google. Even though an accord has been reached on temporarily continuing with the current agreement early in the morning of November 30, Google still went through with the withdrawal. According to a notification from Google, they will start returning content to YouTube on Thursday 30 November.
I am a customer of Teosto. Why does Teosto get to decide how my music is used on YouTube?
As Teosto’s customers, music authors and publishers have granted Teosto the right to make agreements concerning the terms, conditions and remuneration related to the use of their music. In Finland, about 31,000 music authors and publishers are customers of Teosto. Teosto protects their rights.
Why has foreign content also been removed?
In addition to Finnish music authors, Teosto represents over three million foreign music authors and publishers and negotiates over the rights to use their music in Finland.
I am not a customer of Teosto. Why has my music been removed from YouTube?
YouTube is Google’s service and Google has made the decision on the withdrawal, its scope and technical execution. Unfortunately, we do not know what the basis and scope of the withdrawal has been. Google has notified Teosto that they will start returning content to YouTube on Thursday 30 November.
On what grounds can Teosto decide on the pricing of all music content?
Teosto negotiates the royalties and their terms in Finland on behalf of the music authors and publishers that it represents. The royalties are defined in licensing negotiations, which means that Teosto alone cannot define or decide the prices.
Teosto has a valid price list for the use of AV content that is commercially funded and free of charge for the consumer. YouTube’s competitors in the music sector, such as Spotify, and in AV content, such as Ruutu and YLE Areena, pay according to these price lists.
Will the music content be returned to YouTube? When?
Google has stated that they will start returning content to YouTube on Thursday 30 November.
Why have the negotiations been prolonged? Is Teosto hard to negotiate with?
In the negotiations it has been our aim to reach terms and conditions as well as a level of compensation that would be acceptable to the music authors and publishers. It has been proven that YouTube is the largest and most used music service in Finland and has been growing at a strong pace for years. In 2015, 55% of consumers listened to music on YouTube. This year the number is 69%. In our opinion, this should be reflected in the compensation paid to music authors.
*Polaris Nordic study, August 2017
What is going to happen to the YouTube videos that I have made myself that contain music?
If the video has music from music authors or publishers that are customers of Teosto, the video cannot be watched on YouTube at the moment because of the withdrawal by Google.
I have used my own music in my videos and I am not a customer of Teosto. Why are my videos not available?
YouTube is Google’s service and Google has made the decision on the withdrawal, its scope and technical execution. Unfortunately, we do not know what the basis of the withdrawal has been. Google has notified Teosto that they will start returning content to YouTube on Thursday 30 November.
Is YouTube an illegal service now? Can it still be used?
YouTube is not an illegal service and can still be used.
Does Teosto wish to prevent the use of music services?
Teosto’s mission is to make sure that all friends of music have legal and easy access to music. As part of this mission, Teosto negotiates with the service providers on behalf of the music authors and rightholders over the terms and conditions of the use of their music as well as the amount of the remuneration.
How does this withdrawal affect YouTube royalty distributions? When will the next YouTube royalties be distributed?
The next YouTube royalties will be paid in the December 2017 distribution. Royalties for the use of music in the first half of 2017 will be paid then.
An accord has been reached on the continuation of the agreement with Google. The withdrawal should not affect the distribution of royalties.
Is it still possible to listen to the music of Teosto’s customers on YouTube outside of Finland?
Yes, it is.
https://www.teosto.fi/en/teosto/news/withdrawal-youtube
Google has withdrawn music content from the Finnish YouTube. In the background to this happening are prolonged agreement negotiations between Teosto and Google. Even though an accord has been reached on temporarily continuing with the current agreement early in the morning of November 30, Google still went through with the withdrawal. According to a notification from Google, they will start returning content to YouTube on Thursday 30 November.
I am a customer of Teosto. Why does Teosto get to decide how my music is used on YouTube?
As Teosto’s customers, music authors and publishers have granted Teosto the right to make agreements concerning the terms, conditions and remuneration related to the use of their music. In Finland, about 31,000 music authors and publishers are customers of Teosto. Teosto protects their rights.
Why has foreign content also been removed?
In addition to Finnish music authors, Teosto represents over three million foreign music authors and publishers and negotiates over the rights to use their music in Finland.
I am not a customer of Teosto. Why has my music been removed from YouTube?
YouTube is Google’s service and Google has made the decision on the withdrawal, its scope and technical execution. Unfortunately, we do not know what the basis and scope of the withdrawal has been. Google has notified Teosto that they will start returning content to YouTube on Thursday 30 November.
On what grounds can Teosto decide on the pricing of all music content?
Teosto negotiates the royalties and their terms in Finland on behalf of the music authors and publishers that it represents. The royalties are defined in licensing negotiations, which means that Teosto alone cannot define or decide the prices.
Teosto has a valid price list for the use of AV content that is commercially funded and free of charge for the consumer. YouTube’s competitors in the music sector, such as Spotify, and in AV content, such as Ruutu and YLE Areena, pay according to these price lists.
Will the music content be returned to YouTube? When?
Google has stated that they will start returning content to YouTube on Thursday 30 November.
Why have the negotiations been prolonged? Is Teosto hard to negotiate with?
In the negotiations it has been our aim to reach terms and conditions as well as a level of compensation that would be acceptable to the music authors and publishers. It has been proven that YouTube is the largest and most used music service in Finland and has been growing at a strong pace for years. In 2015, 55% of consumers listened to music on YouTube. This year the number is 69%. In our opinion, this should be reflected in the compensation paid to music authors.
*Polaris Nordic study, August 2017
What is going to happen to the YouTube videos that I have made myself that contain music?
If the video has music from music authors or publishers that are customers of Teosto, the video cannot be watched on YouTube at the moment because of the withdrawal by Google.
I have used my own music in my videos and I am not a customer of Teosto. Why are my videos not available?
YouTube is Google’s service and Google has made the decision on the withdrawal, its scope and technical execution. Unfortunately, we do not know what the basis of the withdrawal has been. Google has notified Teosto that they will start returning content to YouTube on Thursday 30 November.
Is YouTube an illegal service now? Can it still be used?
YouTube is not an illegal service and can still be used.
Does Teosto wish to prevent the use of music services?
Teosto’s mission is to make sure that all friends of music have legal and easy access to music. As part of this mission, Teosto negotiates with the service providers on behalf of the music authors and rightholders over the terms and conditions of the use of their music as well as the amount of the remuneration.
How does this withdrawal affect YouTube royalty distributions? When will the next YouTube royalties be distributed?
The next YouTube royalties will be paid in the December 2017 distribution. Royalties for the use of music in the first half of 2017 will be paid then.
An accord has been reached on the continuation of the agreement with Google. The withdrawal should not affect the distribution of royalties.
Is it still possible to listen to the music of Teosto’s customers on YouTube outside of Finland?
Yes, it is.
https://www.teosto.fi/en/teosto/news/withdrawal-youtube
https://www.teosto.fi/en/teosto/news/withdrawal-youtube
1 December 2017 21:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Teosto is developing a blockchain platform for faster and more transparent tracking and processing of royalties for music authors and publishers. Designed by Teosto Futures Lab, the Pigeon platform will provide copyright societies with versatile digital tools that enable faster information flows of performance reports and payment data between different societies globally.
Teosto has finished a working prototype of the Pigeon concept, built on the Multichain blockchain platform, with Finnish blockchain company Chainfrog (www.chainfrog.com), and is currently in discussions about potential partnerships and further development of the concept.
Teosto Futures Lab is Teosto’s innovation platform for research, cross industry co-operation, knowledge share and new business development, launched in December 2016.
Aim to improve revenue streams by reducing costs
"While many of the current challenges in music copyright and royalty distribution can be solved without blockchain, Teosto Futures Lab wanted to find real world use cases where the new technologies could benefit the current industry the most. Looking beyond the hype surrounding blockchains, we designed a solution that can easily be integrated to the current rights management processes between CMOs (copyright management organisations), replacing some of the problematic parts of those processes while improving the revenue streams for music authors and publishers", states Roope Pajasmaa,Teosto’s CDO and Director for R&D and IT.
The Pigeon concept is designed to reduce costs and royalty distribution delays between CMOs and unlock new value for songwriters and publishers. In the long run, Pigeon aims to offer the music copyright industry a comprehensive set of tools and services for messaging and communication, data management, royalty calculation and payments processing.
"Teosto’s key priority is to ensure a sustainable future for music authors and publishers for the use of their musical works. The Pigeon solution - first of its kind in the field of copyright management - is a great example of how Teosto will continue to drive innovation in music industry for the interest of music creators", says Teosto’s CEO Katri Sipilä.
Focus on live performance data
The current Pigeon prototype focuses on the exchange of live performance notifications and related royalty payments data between CMOs, and implements payment ledger functionality that enables payment netting.
"Majority of blockchain initiatives in the music industry focus on the challenges surrounding music metadata, or issues like identity validation and smart contracts. However, we see that also areas such as performance reporting and royalty payments deserve attention, and are domains where a blockchain solution could actually prove extremely useful", comments Teemu Hänninen, Product Owner, Teosto Futures Lab
The prototype is a part of a wider Pigeon service concept that aims to improve and enhance the overall effectiveness of the interaction between CMOs, and to provide them versatile digital services with the help of uniform integrations and structured data. Currently, collaboration between CMOs can suffer from the absence of quality standards and services for information exchange that can result in excessive overhead costs due to manual work effort and varying types of system integrations needed.
How Pigeon is related to other music industry blockchain initiatives
Teosto is a member of Open Music Initiative (OMI), led by Berklee Institute for Creative Entrepreneurship. OMI is a joint initiative with a mission to create interoperability and standards for metadata, rights management and licensing issues for the music industry. While Pigeon concept is not directly related with OMI, Teosto supports applying common standards also into Pigeon to support transparency and interoperability with other music industry initiatives.
Teosto's Pigeon differs from other CMO-partnered blockchain projects as its primary scope is to enhance the data exchange practices within the music copyright industry using blockchain technology.
About Teosto Futures Lab and Teosto
Teosto Futures Lab is Teosto’s innovation platform for research, cross industry co-operation, knowledge share and new business development, launched in December 2016.
Teosto, The Finnish Composers’ Copyright Society, is a non-profit organisation for music authors that works to secure the prerequisites for making music as a professional in Finland and the performing of Finnish music now and in the future. We collect royalties from music users and distribute them to authors and publishers. In other words, we ensure that everyone has easy and legal access to music and the opportunity to use music to promote their business. By fostering the well-being of music authors, we contribute to the well-being of the creative industries and Finnish society as a whole. This has been our mission since 1928. For the love of music. Teosto represents 30,000 Finnish and around three million international composers, lyricists, arrangers and publishers of music. Royalties paid by Teosto to music authors and publishers amounted to EUR 51.6 million in 2016.
Contacts/More information:
Roope Pajasmaa, Chief Digital Officer, Director for R&D and IT at Teosto
roope.pajasmaa(at)teosto.fi, tel. +358 50 3658351
Ano Sirppiniemi, Head of R&D at Teosto and Teosto Futures Lab
ano.sirppiniemi(at)teosto.fi, tel. +358 50 325 6530
https://www.teosto.fi/en/teosto/news/teosto-develops-blockchain-platform-music-copyright-organisations
Teosto has finished a working prototype of the Pigeon concept, built on the Multichain blockchain platform, with Finnish blockchain company Chainfrog (www.chainfrog.com), and is currently in discussions about potential partnerships and further development of the concept.
Teosto Futures Lab is Teosto’s innovation platform for research, cross industry co-operation, knowledge share and new business development, launched in December 2016.
Aim to improve revenue streams by reducing costs
"While many of the current challenges in music copyright and royalty distribution can be solved without blockchain, Teosto Futures Lab wanted to find real world use cases where the new technologies could benefit the current industry the most. Looking beyond the hype surrounding blockchains, we designed a solution that can easily be integrated to the current rights management processes between CMOs (copyright management organisations), replacing some of the problematic parts of those processes while improving the revenue streams for music authors and publishers", states Roope Pajasmaa,Teosto’s CDO and Director for R&D and IT.
The Pigeon concept is designed to reduce costs and royalty distribution delays between CMOs and unlock new value for songwriters and publishers. In the long run, Pigeon aims to offer the music copyright industry a comprehensive set of tools and services for messaging and communication, data management, royalty calculation and payments processing.
"Teosto’s key priority is to ensure a sustainable future for music authors and publishers for the use of their musical works. The Pigeon solution - first of its kind in the field of copyright management - is a great example of how Teosto will continue to drive innovation in music industry for the interest of music creators", says Teosto’s CEO Katri Sipilä.
Focus on live performance data
The current Pigeon prototype focuses on the exchange of live performance notifications and related royalty payments data between CMOs, and implements payment ledger functionality that enables payment netting.
"Majority of blockchain initiatives in the music industry focus on the challenges surrounding music metadata, or issues like identity validation and smart contracts. However, we see that also areas such as performance reporting and royalty payments deserve attention, and are domains where a blockchain solution could actually prove extremely useful", comments Teemu Hänninen, Product Owner, Teosto Futures Lab
The prototype is a part of a wider Pigeon service concept that aims to improve and enhance the overall effectiveness of the interaction between CMOs, and to provide them versatile digital services with the help of uniform integrations and structured data. Currently, collaboration between CMOs can suffer from the absence of quality standards and services for information exchange that can result in excessive overhead costs due to manual work effort and varying types of system integrations needed.
How Pigeon is related to other music industry blockchain initiatives
Teosto is a member of Open Music Initiative (OMI), led by Berklee Institute for Creative Entrepreneurship. OMI is a joint initiative with a mission to create interoperability and standards for metadata, rights management and licensing issues for the music industry. While Pigeon concept is not directly related with OMI, Teosto supports applying common standards also into Pigeon to support transparency and interoperability with other music industry initiatives.
Teosto's Pigeon differs from other CMO-partnered blockchain projects as its primary scope is to enhance the data exchange practices within the music copyright industry using blockchain technology.
About Teosto Futures Lab and Teosto
Teosto Futures Lab is Teosto’s innovation platform for research, cross industry co-operation, knowledge share and new business development, launched in December 2016.
Teosto, The Finnish Composers’ Copyright Society, is a non-profit organisation for music authors that works to secure the prerequisites for making music as a professional in Finland and the performing of Finnish music now and in the future. We collect royalties from music users and distribute them to authors and publishers. In other words, we ensure that everyone has easy and legal access to music and the opportunity to use music to promote their business. By fostering the well-being of music authors, we contribute to the well-being of the creative industries and Finnish society as a whole. This has been our mission since 1928. For the love of music. Teosto represents 30,000 Finnish and around three million international composers, lyricists, arrangers and publishers of music. Royalties paid by Teosto to music authors and publishers amounted to EUR 51.6 million in 2016.
Contacts/More information:
Roope Pajasmaa, Chief Digital Officer, Director for R&D and IT at Teosto
roope.pajasmaa(at)teosto.fi, tel. +358 50 3658351
Ano Sirppiniemi, Head of R&D at Teosto and Teosto Futures Lab
ano.sirppiniemi(at)teosto.fi, tel. +358 50 325 6530
https://www.teosto.fi/en/teosto/news/teosto-develops-blockchain-platform-music-copyright-organisations
http://www.chainfrog.com/
1 December 2017 21:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this kind of things... the copyright that can cause things like that... should be re-imagined...
THEY have to pay to google or google to them ?
Google get's worth from them so...
THEY have to pay to google or google to them ?
Google get's worth from them so...
1 December 2017 20:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Teosto is a non-profit organisation founded in 1928 by composers and music publishers, to administer and protect their rights. At Teosto, decision-making power lies with ordinary members – that is, music authors.
Teosto represents more than 29,000 Finnish and almost three million foreign composers, lyricists, arrangers and music publishers.
____
+
We collect and distribute royalties to the music authors we represent, for the public performance and mechanical reproduction of their music in Finland.
We act as a link between two customer groups, music authors on the one hand and companies and communities that use music on the other. We make life easier for users of music by providing music licences in a centralised manner at Teosto, eliminating the need to make individual agreements with each music author.
Giving voice to authors
Our basic duty is to enable successful professional music-making in Finland. Part of our work involves promoting the rights of music authors and music publishers, as well as diversity in, awareness of and performances of Finnish music in Finland and abroad.
Teosto's International Performance
Teosto is a small society and like other Nordics, effective and transparent. International rightholders’ rights are in good hands with us: Teosto has been able to increase its foreign distributions year-on-year.
Local Finnish market is small and Teosto collects its revenues from small streams. Teosto’s total distribution has been growing year-on-year. It is explained by good customer relations, negotiation skills and success in finding new collection sources.
Read more:
Teosto's International Performance (pdf)
https://www.teosto.fi/en/teosto/articles/what-teosto
https://www.teosto.fi/sites/default/files/files/Teostos%20performance%202013_final.pdf
Teosto represents more than 29,000 Finnish and almost three million foreign composers, lyricists, arrangers and music publishers.
____
+
We collect and distribute royalties to the music authors we represent, for the public performance and mechanical reproduction of their music in Finland.
We act as a link between two customer groups, music authors on the one hand and companies and communities that use music on the other. We make life easier for users of music by providing music licences in a centralised manner at Teosto, eliminating the need to make individual agreements with each music author.
Giving voice to authors
Our basic duty is to enable successful professional music-making in Finland. Part of our work involves promoting the rights of music authors and music publishers, as well as diversity in, awareness of and performances of Finnish music in Finland and abroad.
Teosto's International Performance
Teosto is a small society and like other Nordics, effective and transparent. International rightholders’ rights are in good hands with us: Teosto has been able to increase its foreign distributions year-on-year.
Local Finnish market is small and Teosto collects its revenues from small streams. Teosto’s total distribution has been growing year-on-year. It is explained by good customer relations, negotiation skills and success in finding new collection sources.
Read more:
Teosto's International Performance (pdf)
https://www.teosto.fi/en/teosto/articles/what-teosto
https://www.teosto.fi/sites/default/files/files/Teostos%20performance%202013_final.pdf
https://www.teosto.fi/en/teosto/articles/what-teosto
1 December 2017 20:55
Margus Meigo commented on Alexander von Vask's post.
See invaliidsus autu arvatvasti
1 December 2017 20:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 December 2017 19:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jne https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyj3Aumy4mM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyj3Aumy4mM
1 December 2017 19:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
+ veel siis koolid ka
// polegi reaalsusest nii kaugel , seotud teema , et nii kasvatatakse , Suts kautsemalt.. aga jah. .tehakse.. sest vaja...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJpaDTQujMg
// polegi reaalsusest nii kaugel , seotud teema , et nii kasvatatakse , Suts kautsemalt.. aga jah. .tehakse.. sest vaja...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJpaDTQujMg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJpaDTQujMg
1 December 2017 19:26
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ameerika avastamine on üks suur tegu
1 December 2017 19:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
asi selles, et naisterahvadei tegele tegelikult selliste asjadega
Kuid eks nüüd piirid hägustatud
ja süütused arusaamades murtud koos looriga
Kuid eks nüüd piirid hägustatud
ja süütused arusaamades murtud koos looriga
1 December 2017 19:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i mean, the German versioN:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQIYEPe6DWY&list=RDOQIYEPe6DWY&t=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQIYEPe6DWY&list=RDOQIYEPe6DWY&t=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQIYEPe6DWY&list=RDOQIYEPe6DWY&t=2
1 December 2017 19:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
German version,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgS252XT_Ts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgS252XT_Ts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgS252XT_Ts
1 December 2017 19:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Russian edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okhQtoQFG5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okhQtoQFG5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okhQtoQFG5s
1 December 2017 19:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(eelnev komm st)
1 December 2017 17:59
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
ja suur info ampsja ampsab ja arvutab ja analüüsib ja enesepettust ja reetlikust ta veel pole õppinud suures plaanis, vandenõusi see arvutiinfoampsaja poel veel Teadvustanud.. ja seega manipuleeritav julgete revolutsionääride poolt jka
1 December 2017 17:04
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Nu jah, see arvutiülevõtu asi jep... eriti kui see peaarvuti, mis teisi omavahel ühendusse tahtavaid suruvaid ioT jms tehnoloogiaid mis Tegelikult plaanis juhendab, peajuhendusarvuti
keskarupunktid,
milele söödetakse ette starteegilistes kohtades teatud sorti infot ja asju sellises mooduses, mis ...
keskarupunktid,
milele söödetakse ette starteegilistes kohtades teatud sorti infot ja asju sellises mooduses, mis ...
1 December 2017 17:03
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
//vaimutekst
//ja algorütmi kaudu,... sammsammult edasi minnes, neil tundub, et saavad hakkama,
aga ohnäe imet, hommikul osad jälle j poolt uuesti hingeliseks vahetatud, eks ta nagu soo on, kogu resursssi kasuta kudias saad aga vaimu välja surutud eip saa sellelt maalt, kogu maailm õitseb seni kuni püsime
//ja algorütmi kaudu,... sammsammult edasi minnes, neil tundub, et saavad hakkama,
aga ohnäe imet, hommikul osad jälle j poolt uuesti hingeliseks vahetatud, eks ta nagu soo on, kogu resursssi kasuta kudias saad aga vaimu välja surutud eip saa sellelt maalt, kogu maailm õitseb seni kuni püsime
1 December 2017 16:59
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
1 December 2017 16:55
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kuid me räägime absoluut imitatsioonipeenemate tasandini koos isiksuse ja arutusteemade piiritlusega, et mille suhts saab robot rääkida edasi mida vaja, ilma, et kahtlanetunduks... (kasvõi ainult uskumumas hoida teisi, et kõik on korras kui tuttav hääl rahulikult edasi räägib riigiraadios..)
..monda aega veab ikka välja, väikese inimabiga
// ja kui nüüd digitöötlus jah, ka Raimond juurde lisada,siis saavad nad ka ERR külastusi teha selliselt, et jääks mulje, nagu hing ise kohal oleks olnud... kuigi ma selles ikka kahtlen veel..
On ju inimesi, kes kohe tunnevad, kas päris hing iniemsel sees ja kas mingit osa rääkis elav inimene või imitatsioon
või on tõesti heli tämbris ja pildi detaildies kogu info mida vajatakse, et kes iganes lõplikult äraveenda, ilma huugabuuga usuta, teaduslikult testides ?
..monda aega veab ikka välja, väikese inimabiga
// ja kui nüüd digitöötlus jah, ka Raimond juurde lisada,siis saavad nad ka ERR külastusi teha selliselt, et jääks mulje, nagu hing ise kohal oleks olnud... kuigi ma selles ikka kahtlen veel..
On ju inimesi, kes kohe tunnevad, kas päris hing iniemsel sees ja kas mingit osa rääkis elav inimene või imitatsioon
või on tõesti heli tämbris ja pildi detaildies kogu info mida vajatakse, et kes iganes lõplikult äraveenda, ilma huugabuuga usuta, teaduslikult testides ?
1 December 2017 16:54
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
seda kah, BBC näitas laivis mõned aastad tagasi
1 December 2017 16:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(Juhuslikule jlugejale: ()võimalikule lugejale)
Eelnev eraelu emotsiooni ja suhete põimumise kergsõlmpunkt
Eelnev eraelu emotsiooni ja suhete põimumise kergsõlmpunkt
1 December 2017 15:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// vaimujutt
//edit versions
//edit versions
1 December 2017 15:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
rahu ja vahemaad peame hoidma, normaalse suhtluse suunal kui soovime arusaada mis siin juhtus_toimub
1 December 2017 00:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
1 December 2017 00:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 December 2017 00:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi suht kreisi ".exe" lisi faile jagada , kuid las olla nii.
Kuigi loomulikult saab palju muud teoorias veel, sisemaailmu ja ligipääse vaatajale pakkuda koos mee ja moosiga.
Kuigi loomulikult saab palju muud teoorias veel, sisemaailmu ja ligipääse vaatajale pakkuda koos mee ja moosiga.
1 December 2017 00:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Pikkus kokku, failil: u 20 minutit (heliga, täisekraan, avamisel vajutage käivitamis pildile)
30 November 2017 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui see keegi ennast siin tunneb..
30 November 2017 23:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Carcter is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxCsqk-OlRE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxCsqk-OlRE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxCsqk-OlRE
30 November 2017 22:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi Andres, kui neid pätte inglisma tänavalt mäletad, kellega koos hängasin, siis nende hulgas sai küll Väga selgeks, et on need keda ei saa algusest peale usaldada ja kes su lapse sõna otseses mõttes burgeriks võib teha kriisiajal ja neid kes jäävad väärikaks alati ja sellepool kes õiguslikult inimlikum
ja need pätid, kes on päris jätised ja limukad, saavad ikka väga ohtlikud selgapussitajad olla.. raske nendel kes eip oska inimkarakteritel vahet teha.
Kuid üldjuhul pätid nagu väikesed lapsed, kuinendega kaasa mängid siis seni kui neil jonnituju pole on kõik suht fain ka ohtlikumate hulgas
ja need pätid, kes on päris jätised ja limukad, saavad ikka väga ohtlikud selgapussitajad olla.. raske nendel kes eip oska inimkarakteritel vahet teha.
Kuid üldjuhul pätid nagu väikesed lapsed, kuinendega kaasa mängid siis seni kui neil jonnituju pole on kõik suht fain ka ohtlikumate hulgas
30 November 2017 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Asi ka selles, et pätid teavad, et niisama emotsioonis hüpates teise kallal või üle laskmisel on tagajärjed
30 November 2017 15:31
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Eks see olegi filmide üks varjatud eesmärk ja head on nagu psühopaadid ja homod (Batman, Robin, .. capen america ja wonder women ka oma viisnurkadega ... )
30 November 2017 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Täna on 30. kooljakuud 10230 Eesti kalendris
30 November 2017 15:28
Margus Meigo replied to Stanislav Novikov's comment.
nüüd ainult intelecutal ja verbal Jiu-Jitsu
30 November 2017 15:26
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
"Nüüd ma saan aru küll"
Köster
Köster
30 November 2017 15:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kusotsast ta kommunist muidu on +
30 November 2017 06:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
30 November 2017 06:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See juba kati perry tase ja gaga stki mõni samm vahepeal üle
30 November 2017 06:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu siin juba toon onhea https://youtu.be/RTKe7-d4S8A
https://youtu.be/RTKe7-d4S8A
30 November 2017 06:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Selle Immortali teema vahepeal sama häiriv tundus kui siin peaaegu https://youtu.be/QtMBZmKGicI
Need ammugi liiga lärmikad mulle https://youtu.be/8PaoLy7PHwk
Need ammugi liiga lärmikad mulle https://youtu.be/8PaoLy7PHwk
https://youtu.be/QtMBZmKGicI
30 November 2017 06:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
demokraatia isegi siis kui keegi sisse ei sõida, ikka suht saast asi tundub, ajaraiskamine
praktilise asjade kordategemise asemel mängimine
sõna otseses mõttes ka
praktilise asjade kordategemise asemel mängimine
sõna otseses mõttes ka
30 November 2017 06:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et siis selgitatumalt, et kui AZMA oleks välja vahetanud mõni pikem kutt publikust või muidu terava keele ja meelega, siis showmõttes oleks võinud sopra aidata kui näha oli, et too täielikult lukustatud spelli all oli ja ei saanud ühtegi sõna ja reaal lauset ega flowd välja, nii hale et ma vahepeal skippima pidin.
Ja see peaks olema siis White side väljakutsuja, sellistel algusaegadel, oleks pidnaud kohe kõrge reaal standardi panema, beebi ka heamehe poolest jagas poolehoiu, härrasmehelikusest, et mitte liiga täiesti maha ennast teine ei kukutaks,
sest vastased chillides saavad igast meelesüste peale saata,.. riimid ja meeled lukku saata ja siis avalikult peale sõita. Kergetel tasemeltel, et tase ise juba ka madalal hoia,siis kergem kogu mõtet madalamas hoida ja põhipointi täita, neil... kes koostööd teevad mitte respekti mõttes vaid teadlikult ebameeldivalt imaledes
Ja see peaks olema siis White side väljakutsuja, sellistel algusaegadel, oleks pidnaud kohe kõrge reaal standardi panema, beebi ka heamehe poolest jagas poolehoiu, härrasmehelikusest, et mitte liiga täiesti maha ennast teine ei kukutaks,
sest vastased chillides saavad igast meelesüste peale saata,.. riimid ja meeled lukku saata ja siis avalikult peale sõita. Kergetel tasemeltel, et tase ise juba ka madalal hoia,siis kergem kogu mõtet madalamas hoida ja põhipointi täita, neil... kes koostööd teevad mitte respekti mõttes vaid teadlikult ebameeldivalt imaledes
30 November 2017 05:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid mure selles, et ... Hr. Arop mängu mõtteski võib ja peabki saatma peale midagi kui ta arvab, et asi väärt võimalus on kedagi õiguselekutsuda, või olulist selgeks teha, ja jumalikult üksteise läbi õpetada....
KUid need kes Seadusekuulekad olema peaksid, peaksid oema suts nagu lahtisemad mitte grupilukus kinni,
Miks see tüüp kes oleks osanud miks ta peale oma räpiga väljakutset ei julgenud teha keegi kellel olid meeled lahti ja siis kohapealt üle võtnud teisetüübi oma selli selgitades otse räppates, et mis kardate kohe värsket selli kes ütleb, kuidas on
KUid need kes Seadusekuulekad olema peaksid, peaksid oema suts nagu lahtisemad mitte grupilukus kinni,
Miks see tüüp kes oleks osanud miks ta peale oma räpiga väljakutset ei julgenud teha keegi kellel olid meeled lahti ja siis kohapealt üle võtnud teisetüübi oma selli selgitades otse räppates, et mis kardate kohe värsket selli kes ütleb, kuidas on
30 November 2017 05:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Definition is ... is ...
// see nagu need kes ei tea, mis sültlased on... ise soltuvad sellest paljust, mis neid teistsuguse rihma otsas hoiab kuid see rihm neid mind hoidma paneb , et ma ei pääse kaelarihmastajani sest rihmastatud hoiavad ise eemal teist või maas, kontrolli all, kuni kõrgeima tasemini vaaatevinklitega mis samamööda kui arvata, et seente söömata saab hakata kogu see punt arusaama suurustes, otse, puhtamailt, koos opetusega otse õigeisse ruuumidesse enne seda kui kapslid pähe pannakse, et oiges suunas motlema hakkaksid
https://youtu.be/kmBnvajSfWU
// see nagu need kes ei tea, mis sültlased on... ise soltuvad sellest paljust, mis neid teistsuguse rihma otsas hoiab kuid see rihm neid mind hoidma paneb , et ma ei pääse kaelarihmastajani sest rihmastatud hoiavad ise eemal teist või maas, kontrolli all, kuni kõrgeima tasemini vaaatevinklitega mis samamööda kui arvata, et seente söömata saab hakata kogu see punt arusaama suurustes, otse, puhtamailt, koos opetusega otse õigeisse ruuumidesse enne seda kui kapslid pähe pannakse, et oiges suunas motlema hakkaksid
https://youtu.be/kmBnvajSfWU
https://youtu.be/kmBnvajSfWU
30 November 2017 05:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
perhaps yea, can You imagine if some bad ones are thinking like that.
Is there anyone known also ?
https://youtu.be/SgVZSIPzH1o
take cookies .. elements just few here, to get idea of spellrapers magic potential versions of combinatons
https://youtu.be/9rKmdRdNO7s
--------
[Intro: Akala (speaking)]
"Once upon a time in an obscure part of the Milky Way Galaxy, there was a spinning ball of water and rock ruled by the forces of evil.
The Devil himself, proud of the magnificent achievements of his children, decided to call a special banquet for the greatest thieves in all the land
He sent invites to thousands of the greatest murders, rapists and general-assorted scum, inviting them to attend his palace at the dawn of the new moon. Each thief would be given a chance to stake his claim as the greatest messenger of murder upon the planet, and the Devil himself would then decide who should be crowned king.
After many days of deliberating, all of the petty thieves, such as street criminals, have been found far short of the required level of wickedness and there were just four sets of thieves left in the competition
They were: the monarchs of empire, a cartel of bankers, the heads of religious orders, and the third-world dictators. Each set of thieves appointed a spokesman to give his case to the Devil. We have recorded these events for posterity
[Verse 1 Intro: Akala]
Uh, listen
Uh, okay, yo
First up was the thief of the worst reputation
Dictator of a third-world nation
He looked the Devil in the eye as he spoke
In an oh-so-serious tone
[Verse 1: Akala (as the Third-World Dictator)]
Dear Mr. Devil
I am the greatest thief there has ever been on Earth
Please tell me who else more than me personifies your work
I came to power in a military coup, I murdered the elected president
He wanted to use the resources of our country for our peoples’ benefit
I proved to masters in the west
I could kill my own people just as well as the best
So I took over the so-called independent country when the foreigners left
Sent squads of death to those who would suggest
In power should be the one they elect
Erected a statue of the great man
That raped our mothers, stole our lands
That’s how little self-respect I have
Don’t fight slavery, it makes me glad
Account in Switzerland, Rolls Royce
Murder and rape cos I want new toys
Don’t want a portion, but a whole fortune
With that profit, what’s a little bit of torture
Even outlawed my indigenous culture
And language and history
And taught our people to only worship colonizers
And of course, ME!
[Hook]:
Thief!
It’s the banquet of the thieves!
Come and dine with me!
It’s the banquet of the thieves!
The banquet of the thieves…
[Verse 2 Intro: Akala]
The Devil was so impressed with this wonderful man
He almost ejaculated on his hands
But the monarch of the empire said
[Verse 2: Akala (as the Monarch of Empire)]
Excuse me, Mr. Devil, I’d like to speak if I may
Who do you think trained this amateur dictator to behave this way?
Yeah, I’m sure before I came along his country was far from heaven
But look of the carnage I caused all over the Earth, it’s got to be the work of the Devil
Countless deaths, mass enslavement
Deliberate starvation of whole nations
The dictator tries his best, but looking at me, he’s just an imitation
Who do you think pays his wages?
He would love to be trading places
I’ve been doing this ting on the roads
Way back, way back, way back
Since the Middle Ages
Everybody knows he’s a criminal element
They think I’m democratic and benevolent
And that shows that I’m really devilish
Cos people think I’m heaven-sent
I couldn’t care about democracy
You all know no one elected me
The people love me despite my crimes
Sucka MCs wanna bite my shine
So blingin’ out of control you would vomit
Don’t even touch dough, but my face is on it!
[Hook]:
[Verse 3: Akala (as the Head of Religious Orders)]
I’m a pervert who’s in the cloak of the clergy
Yes, I’m a pervert who’s in the cloak
I’m a despicable character
I use my position of authority and spiritual reverence
I’m a despicable character
Mr. Devil, allow me to speak
For all of the religious leaders that leech
In the world of creeps, I’m initiated
I take the peoples’ faith and dissipate it
With false promises, hollow oratory
Don’t need a gun, it’s daylight robbery
Dear Mr. Devil
I thought you would like it
How I use their faith in God to keep them blinded
Put on a nice voice, read them a book
And they believe that I am not a crook
Tell them God will repay them in the next
They give me their life savings so I can buy jets
All the reports about child sex
None of us have ever gone to jail yet
This system of stealing, so appealing
Convinces the victims their lives have meaning
Monarchs boast about conquest
But needed my blessings to get it done
And all of the dictators use my books
Therefore, they are just my sons
[Verse 4 Intro: Akala]
The Devil was sure this was the winner
And was just about to put an end to the dinner
But then the man from the banking cartel
Stepped up and said
[Verse 4: Akala (as the Cartel Banker)]
I think I’m the biggest sinner
All of those three depend on me
All they ever do is defending me
Cos I paid for all of the things they have
Of course, and all of the lives they lead
Paid for the guns, bombs and the tanks
That’s why you see, there is always more
I turned science’s basic appliance
Into a client of weapon and war
Paid for monarchies, armed robberies
I make monopolies out of property
Never shot a gun nor killed anyone myself
But billions die cos of me
Who needs a threat? I make a debt
Out of thin air, just sit back and collect
Every single day, whatever they say
The people need me just to connect it
Yet none of them knows what I look like
Yet all of them spend my money to look nice
They want more, no one’s pure
I hold the keys to every single door
Sell sex and drugs, profit and lies
Earth and skies, I’ll even sell life
I’ll even sell freedom for the right price
But no one is smart enough to ask me nice
So Mr. Devil, give me the medal
Don’t be biased
If you don’t give it to me
I’ll just BUY IT!
[Hook]:
Thief!
It’s the banquet of the thieves!
Come and dine with me!
It’s the banquet of the thieves!
The banquet of the thieves…"
Is there anyone known also ?
https://youtu.be/SgVZSIPzH1o
take cookies .. elements just few here, to get idea of spellrapers magic potential versions of combinatons
https://youtu.be/9rKmdRdNO7s
--------
[Intro: Akala (speaking)]
"Once upon a time in an obscure part of the Milky Way Galaxy, there was a spinning ball of water and rock ruled by the forces of evil.
The Devil himself, proud of the magnificent achievements of his children, decided to call a special banquet for the greatest thieves in all the land
He sent invites to thousands of the greatest murders, rapists and general-assorted scum, inviting them to attend his palace at the dawn of the new moon. Each thief would be given a chance to stake his claim as the greatest messenger of murder upon the planet, and the Devil himself would then decide who should be crowned king.
After many days of deliberating, all of the petty thieves, such as street criminals, have been found far short of the required level of wickedness and there were just four sets of thieves left in the competition
They were: the monarchs of empire, a cartel of bankers, the heads of religious orders, and the third-world dictators. Each set of thieves appointed a spokesman to give his case to the Devil. We have recorded these events for posterity
[Verse 1 Intro: Akala]
Uh, listen
Uh, okay, yo
First up was the thief of the worst reputation
Dictator of a third-world nation
He looked the Devil in the eye as he spoke
In an oh-so-serious tone
[Verse 1: Akala (as the Third-World Dictator)]
Dear Mr. Devil
I am the greatest thief there has ever been on Earth
Please tell me who else more than me personifies your work
I came to power in a military coup, I murdered the elected president
He wanted to use the resources of our country for our peoples’ benefit
I proved to masters in the west
I could kill my own people just as well as the best
So I took over the so-called independent country when the foreigners left
Sent squads of death to those who would suggest
In power should be the one they elect
Erected a statue of the great man
That raped our mothers, stole our lands
That’s how little self-respect I have
Don’t fight slavery, it makes me glad
Account in Switzerland, Rolls Royce
Murder and rape cos I want new toys
Don’t want a portion, but a whole fortune
With that profit, what’s a little bit of torture
Even outlawed my indigenous culture
And language and history
And taught our people to only worship colonizers
And of course, ME!
[Hook]:
Thief!
It’s the banquet of the thieves!
Come and dine with me!
It’s the banquet of the thieves!
The banquet of the thieves…
[Verse 2 Intro: Akala]
The Devil was so impressed with this wonderful man
He almost ejaculated on his hands
But the monarch of the empire said
[Verse 2: Akala (as the Monarch of Empire)]
Excuse me, Mr. Devil, I’d like to speak if I may
Who do you think trained this amateur dictator to behave this way?
Yeah, I’m sure before I came along his country was far from heaven
But look of the carnage I caused all over the Earth, it’s got to be the work of the Devil
Countless deaths, mass enslavement
Deliberate starvation of whole nations
The dictator tries his best, but looking at me, he’s just an imitation
Who do you think pays his wages?
He would love to be trading places
I’ve been doing this ting on the roads
Way back, way back, way back
Since the Middle Ages
Everybody knows he’s a criminal element
They think I’m democratic and benevolent
And that shows that I’m really devilish
Cos people think I’m heaven-sent
I couldn’t care about democracy
You all know no one elected me
The people love me despite my crimes
Sucka MCs wanna bite my shine
So blingin’ out of control you would vomit
Don’t even touch dough, but my face is on it!
[Hook]:
[Verse 3: Akala (as the Head of Religious Orders)]
I’m a pervert who’s in the cloak of the clergy
Yes, I’m a pervert who’s in the cloak
I’m a despicable character
I use my position of authority and spiritual reverence
I’m a despicable character
Mr. Devil, allow me to speak
For all of the religious leaders that leech
In the world of creeps, I’m initiated
I take the peoples’ faith and dissipate it
With false promises, hollow oratory
Don’t need a gun, it’s daylight robbery
Dear Mr. Devil
I thought you would like it
How I use their faith in God to keep them blinded
Put on a nice voice, read them a book
And they believe that I am not a crook
Tell them God will repay them in the next
They give me their life savings so I can buy jets
All the reports about child sex
None of us have ever gone to jail yet
This system of stealing, so appealing
Convinces the victims their lives have meaning
Monarchs boast about conquest
But needed my blessings to get it done
And all of the dictators use my books
Therefore, they are just my sons
[Verse 4 Intro: Akala]
The Devil was sure this was the winner
And was just about to put an end to the dinner
But then the man from the banking cartel
Stepped up and said
[Verse 4: Akala (as the Cartel Banker)]
I think I’m the biggest sinner
All of those three depend on me
All they ever do is defending me
Cos I paid for all of the things they have
Of course, and all of the lives they lead
Paid for the guns, bombs and the tanks
That’s why you see, there is always more
I turned science’s basic appliance
Into a client of weapon and war
Paid for monarchies, armed robberies
I make monopolies out of property
Never shot a gun nor killed anyone myself
But billions die cos of me
Who needs a threat? I make a debt
Out of thin air, just sit back and collect
Every single day, whatever they say
The people need me just to connect it
Yet none of them knows what I look like
Yet all of them spend my money to look nice
They want more, no one’s pure
I hold the keys to every single door
Sell sex and drugs, profit and lies
Earth and skies, I’ll even sell life
I’ll even sell freedom for the right price
But no one is smart enough to ask me nice
So Mr. Devil, give me the medal
Don’t be biased
If you don’t give it to me
I’ll just BUY IT!
[Hook]:
Thief!
It’s the banquet of the thieves!
Come and dine with me!
It’s the banquet of the thieves!
The banquet of the thieves…"
https://youtu.be/SgVZSIPzH1o
30 November 2017 05:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Okey jätkame listi
kuig neid chicke eip leia keda plaanis oli..
https://youtu.be/2frJ3e0hxPE
kuig neid chicke eip leia keda plaanis oli..
https://youtu.be/2frJ3e0hxPE
https://youtu.be/2frJ3e0hxPE
30 November 2017 05:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Natuke , liiga hea xD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ipidE0lNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ipidE0lNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ipidE0lNE
30 November 2017 05:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
samal ajal noored teiselpool, teemad teismelistel : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUPEF6PQxow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUPEF6PQxow
30 November 2017 05:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
üldsegi kui inimesed järjest 4x veerand minutit ei suuda mõtestatult räppida hinge tõmbamatta nu millest siis rääkida
korralda või ise mingi muud sorty rappbatle suts muude reeglite järgi
korralda või ise mingi muud sorty rappbatle suts muude reeglite järgi
30 November 2017 04:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid yeah, üldiselt selle battly osas, disclassiks mõlemad eriti lamedate ja labaste solvangute ja emade disrespecti osas,
Mõistlikum lõikl oli viimased paar minutit kus Azmale eluolulised sõnad peale loeti ja 911 gaasi nali. See oli juba skill isegi kui oli inside job :p
kehakeel ka ju oluline ja kui unustad korralikult peale võtta ja väärtus prinsiibid, elureeglid ja piirid, siis pidigi nii minema,
vali õiglane maagia ja ära proovi olla teiste kingakandja see näeb veider välja ja kõlab selliselt.. tuleb välja just nii ebahealt kui to väärt tulema oli. Lapsikuste ja mehelikusepuudumisse ei tohi langeda kui välist cooli hoida soovid.
// nagu öeldi, see, et oled Parem ei tähenda, et võidad, see et võidad, ei tähenda, et teisel nii ei läinud nagu ta ise plaanis.
Tuleb jätta titalikud solvangud ja pöörata elu süva filosoofiliste ja mastaapsete keelerünnakute poole, sellise batteli võidaks enamus reggi vanaemad ära tagakätt nii kergelt, et nad end peaksid korralikult meelega tagasihoidlikumaks naljatama, et mitte kaotusmaakauguse osas lastele liialt liiga teha
eks seda vajagi korraldada mõniaeg,et välja hakkaks paistma ka tarkus mitte aint skill
Mida iganes proovid järgmine kord proovi olla see kes soovid!
Mõistlikum lõikl oli viimased paar minutit kus Azmale eluolulised sõnad peale loeti ja 911 gaasi nali. See oli juba skill isegi kui oli inside job :p
kehakeel ka ju oluline ja kui unustad korralikult peale võtta ja väärtus prinsiibid, elureeglid ja piirid, siis pidigi nii minema,
vali õiglane maagia ja ära proovi olla teiste kingakandja see näeb veider välja ja kõlab selliselt.. tuleb välja just nii ebahealt kui to väärt tulema oli. Lapsikuste ja mehelikusepuudumisse ei tohi langeda kui välist cooli hoida soovid.
// nagu öeldi, see, et oled Parem ei tähenda, et võidad, see et võidad, ei tähenda, et teisel nii ei läinud nagu ta ise plaanis.
Tuleb jätta titalikud solvangud ja pöörata elu süva filosoofiliste ja mastaapsete keelerünnakute poole, sellise batteli võidaks enamus reggi vanaemad ära tagakätt nii kergelt, et nad end peaksid korralikult meelega tagasihoidlikumaks naljatama, et mitte kaotusmaakauguse osas lastele liialt liiga teha
eks seda vajagi korraldada mõniaeg,et välja hakkaks paistma ka tarkus mitte aint skill
Mida iganes proovid järgmine kord proovi olla see kes soovid!
30 November 2017 04:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Change - Muuda
"Viewing English" to Eesti, kui teksti kodukeeles loete ja pea postitust ing keeles näete.
// samas ka luure ja muu hea töö jaoks see mitme keele valik kasulik, saab topelt org. tööd teha, ilma, et avaliku postituse versioon põhipostituses nähtav esimese hooga oleks
"Viewing English" to Eesti, kui teksti kodukeeles loete ja pea postitust ing keeles näete.
// samas ka luure ja muu hea töö jaoks see mitme keele valik kasulik, saab topelt org. tööd teha, ilma, et avaliku postituse versioon põhipostituses nähtav esimese hooga oleks
30 November 2017 04:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nagu sõnad ei vea füüsilist välja...
Kuid see shamaani lugu siis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LdflEdtm2U (+ video ka, kui keegi suuremaid trippe teinud,siis tead mis mõelda..)
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But ya see.. 12 girls can do it almost..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3esa_Fr9GJA
Or the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxEjXuZ2Mpo
or Her.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L53MZzuE0QY
Some positiveness rap sample in same line, 7 languages and many different syles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuAX65lYHBs
But yea.. these kinders are nice as well:
Kuid see shamaani lugu siis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LdflEdtm2U (+ video ka, kui keegi suuremaid trippe teinud,siis tead mis mõelda..)
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But ya see.. 12 girls can do it almost..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3esa_Fr9GJA
Or the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxEjXuZ2Mpo
or Her.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L53MZzuE0QY
Some positiveness rap sample in same line, 7 languages and many different syles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuAX65lYHBs
But yea.. these kinders are nice as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LdflEdtm2U
30 November 2017 04:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muidugi ega need avalikud batelid miskid eirit kõvad riimivärsid polegi ...rohkem väljamõeldud ja allapoole piiri minevad...
https://youtu.be/2P4qalrjiqU?t=173
Siinpool jällegi .. kurb, et .. see nii konarlik...
https://youtu.be/2P4qalrjiqU?t=173
Siinpool jällegi .. kurb, et .. see nii konarlik...
https://youtu.be/2P4qalrjiqU?t=173
30 November 2017 03:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et kuidas see vastuvõetud on, et lahendus kuidas, ikkagi suht aksepteeritav.
Kuid jah,
Beebi poliitkorrektsus oli ka omamoodi tase . )
Kuid jah,
Beebi poliitkorrektsus oli ka omamoodi tase . )
30 November 2017 03:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja vastuselgi pole viga: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0tKTLYvFFs
Kuid jah, meeles pidada siis ka, et räpikunsti sõnamaagia ka osa shamanistlikust maailmast..
http://life.hooliganhamlet.com/2017/10/azma-vs-arop-uks-vana-hea-rapituli-kutab-taas-kirgi/
Ka siin käivad treeningud meelsuse kallutamise osas:
" Asjaolude selgitamiseks otsustas ta Azmale otse helistada ja tundub, et paremaks nende vahelised suhted sellest telefonikõnest ei läinud. Aropi Instagrami LIVEst tuleb välja, et selgitamise asemel otsustas Azma telefonikõnet hoopis salvestada ja ähvardas seda lindistust ka oma sotsiaalmeedias jagada. Põnev. Arop kutsus Azmat telefonikõnede asemel lindistama reaalseid lugusid, mis on mõlema artisti fänne silmas pidades väga hea mõte. Oma Instagrami LIVE lõpus lisas Arop, et sellise haleda liigutuse pärast on tema austus Azma vastu igatahes kadunud."
//
Juba neil aegadel..
Kuid jah, meeles pidada siis ka, et räpikunsti sõnamaagia ka osa shamanistlikust maailmast..
http://life.hooliganhamlet.com/2017/10/azma-vs-arop-uks-vana-hea-rapituli-kutab-taas-kirgi/
Ka siin käivad treeningud meelsuse kallutamise osas:
" Asjaolude selgitamiseks otsustas ta Azmale otse helistada ja tundub, et paremaks nende vahelised suhted sellest telefonikõnest ei läinud. Aropi Instagrami LIVEst tuleb välja, et selgitamise asemel otsustas Azma telefonikõnet hoopis salvestada ja ähvardas seda lindistust ka oma sotsiaalmeedias jagada. Põnev. Arop kutsus Azmat telefonikõnede asemel lindistama reaalseid lugusid, mis on mõlema artisti fänne silmas pidades väga hea mõte. Oma Instagrami LIVE lõpus lisas Arop, et sellise haleda liigutuse pärast on tema austus Azma vastu igatahes kadunud."
//
Juba neil aegadel..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0tKTLYvFFs
30 November 2017 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kunagi sai mediteeritud tripis, et igasugustele negatiivsust pritsivatele Papadele vaja saata peale räpp A-Rühmad ja .. eks nii läheb nagu hästi mõeldud, asjadsünnivad
..
vahepala: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i__L12oM3J8
..
vahepala: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i__L12oM3J8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i__L12oM3J8
30 November 2017 03:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
X5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S61uuw8rz4c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S61uuw8rz4c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S61uuw8rz4c
30 November 2017 03:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Samal ajal Noorte probleeme
Kus nad muretsevad, kas noortele on õige platform kultuuri jaoks antud
https://youtu.be/iYmNmdp5JBQ?t=300
Kus nad muretsevad, kas noortele on õige platform kultuuri jaoks antud
https://youtu.be/iYmNmdp5JBQ?t=300
https://youtu.be/iYmNmdp5JBQ?t=300
30 November 2017 03:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Eesti keele versioon:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213603888228268
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213603888228268
30 November 2017 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Selle hea asutuse kaudu:
https://www.armastanaidata.ee/annetan/tervis-ja-toimetulek/mtu-lahendus-net-aita-pakkuda-kvaliteetset-tasuta-internetipohist-psuhholoogilist-noustamist/#project-article
https://www.armastanaidata.ee/annetan/tervis-ja-toimetulek/mtu-lahendus-net-aita-pakkuda-kvaliteetset-tasuta-internetipohist-psuhholoogilist-noustamist/#project-article
https://www.armastanaidata.ee/annetan/tervis-ja-toimetulek/mtu-lahendus-net-aita-pakkuda-kvaliteetset-tasuta-internetipohist-psuhholoogilist-noustamist/#project-article
30 November 2017 03:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Teema veel
http://www.tteesti.ee/index.php?page=196&action=article&article_id=20&print=true
Eriti weebilehe päises olev teade
http://www.tteesti.ee/index.php?page=196&action=article&article_id=20&print=true
Eriti weebilehe päises olev teade
http://www.tteesti.ee/index.php?page=196&action=article&article_id=20&print=true
30 November 2017 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
May May... hugs, the kind that can be given
30 November 2017 02:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
30 November 2017 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui muud ei saa siis saab hea filmi sellest pealekauba, õpetliku
https://gph.is/2wlztFl
https://gph.is/2wlztFl
https://gph.is/2wlztFl
30 November 2017 01:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Man, some gif maker websites look great:
Meaningful also, easy to see, from proper people rather
// was thinking to add this extra later, but, did You remember this trump future transportation video ? Early before election
https://imgur.com/a/BG7aH
http://gph.is/2AlPSvV
The older one:
https://imgur.com/a/i1XMh
Spell You back
https://imgur.com/a/Cq8dQ
Meaningful also, easy to see, from proper people rather
// was thinking to add this extra later, but, did You remember this trump future transportation video ? Early before election
https://imgur.com/a/BG7aH
http://gph.is/2AlPSvV
The older one:
https://imgur.com/a/i1XMh
Spell You back
https://imgur.com/a/Cq8dQ
30 November 2017 01:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://gph.is/2AlPSvV
www.arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/ekraanerid/Magic.Trump.gif
www.arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/ekraanerid/Magic.Trump.gif
http://gph.is/2AlPSvV
30 November 2017 01:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// Well, this, except the last part, was meant to be as warmup integrative joke
But based on real proof of worry what stage artist will try and what they will make them self believe ... that one most do.. as told... then thinks to have powers that is actually provided, to make one powerless when real time comes (as removed as "turned away") as magic works, worked only thanks to real work and planning by others and by the belief of one self confidence to say what sounds as needed
But based on real proof of worry what stage artist will try and what they will make them self believe ... that one most do.. as told... then thinks to have powers that is actually provided, to make one powerless when real time comes (as removed as "turned away") as magic works, worked only thanks to real work and planning by others and by the belief of one self confidence to say what sounds as needed
30 November 2017 01:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
actually more and more people should be able to go to peoples home who comment something one would Like Not, this should be social club like that!
and perhaps many reasons to visit
// meaning, the ones who know how to find You should be allowed
if them have special allowed level or contacts-skills, but more the .. level of access, skipping the ordinary "Give us an access" but also adding this top of that when needed
//best We can do, is to make sure, that visitors to be humane
(good)
and perhaps many reasons to visit
// meaning, the ones who know how to find You should be allowed
if them have special allowed level or contacts-skills, but more the .. level of access, skipping the ordinary "Give us an access" but also adding this top of that when needed
//best We can do, is to make sure, that visitors to be humane
(good)
30 November 2017 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
To a spammer troll suspect:
" I swear "
// The Kim cable comment about "Why there is only 123 viewers"
(but if this would be combined entire total feed lookers numbers.. ...can You imagine if that would be total FB network this source video feed instead of an private imported or private self recorded feed. But what, ... just .. what would you do, if find out, it is so
" I swear "
// The Kim cable comment about "Why there is only 123 viewers"
(but if this would be combined entire total feed lookers numbers.. ...can You imagine if that would be total FB network this source video feed instead of an private imported or private self recorded feed. But what, ... just .. what would you do, if find out, it is so
30 November 2017 01:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Turtle as UK's liberal democrats party owner Club mascot
30 November 2017 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
30 November 2017 01:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or for Your ...
30 November 2017 01:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
30 November 2017 01:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
what kind of censors are alright,
at times,
even if they told by someone who has another kind of freedom to say what them like,
there for sure is more lands in World,where You can say about some country less then in a Country it self,
in Korea i assume it is opposite, in outside of Korea all kind of propaganda against one self is allowed but inside only good talking is accepted we assume,
we also hope in secret, that Good order will be proper Kinmgly
at times,
even if they told by someone who has another kind of freedom to say what them like,
there for sure is more lands in World,where You can say about some country less then in a Country it self,
in Korea i assume it is opposite, in outside of Korea all kind of propaganda against one self is allowed but inside only good talking is accepted we assume,
we also hope in secret, that Good order will be proper Kinmgly
30 November 2017 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
@ Same time,
... the reason some religions fail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taD_se5YysY
As the ones who are with Love,
Will stay alive in another safe plain, as the one you got temporally here,
// "Christian word for sinning, is To Miss the Point !
Point is Eternal life, (what is here and now,?) ... but when You think and help to believe that all can destruct then you just fkd in Youth terms
... the reason some religions fail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taD_se5YysY
As the ones who are with Love,
Will stay alive in another safe plain, as the one you got temporally here,
// "Christian word for sinning, is To Miss the Point !
Point is Eternal life, (what is here and now,?) ... but when You think and help to believe that all can destruct then you just fkd in Youth terms
30 November 2017 00:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
how are lions larger then Eagels ?
Who seen much and done harsher
Who seen much and done harsher
30 November 2017 00:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Well, i actually do expect lion not to eat people, according discovery
// but that just might be communist propacanda, who say they any diferenct from The HISTORY Channel?
// but that just might be communist propacanda, who say they any diferenct from The HISTORY Channel?
30 November 2017 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Selles raamatus,aga pole peaaegu sõnagi juttu ei neisttaimedest ega ammugi mitte värvikatest visioonidest vaid amoni sõdurpolitseinikest kes aastatuhandeid vanu kultuuri Naiste kalapüügi paadid süvalooduses automaadiga puruks lasevad, ... või kes need olid
30 November 2017 00:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei olegi mõeldud kergeks lugemiseks, vaid konstructi loomiseks mille põhjal saaks mitmekihilise läbipaistva vesise neti valmis
30 November 2017 00:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
30 November 2017 00:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Not liberal, Literal
30 November 2017 00:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(this was told more directed imagery way, besides real foundation and literal also )
30 November 2017 00:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and sound also,
who knows, but human seems to noisy for God
who knows, but human seems to noisy for God
29 November 2017 23:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 November 2017 23:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This is the Swamp Comment:
(Drain the Swam, "Then we know who is with Swamps - True Capitalists and who is the one who will be fine with whatever he gets as long he can be president // okey end story is just side folk, not planned right now to visualize, ut true it is, Trump can Easy give all money away, and join in future,when sure with brotherly honorable workers in a moment notice with this kind of heart and taking in to account planned # TurtleClub plans... )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd0Xsddbt_I
(Drain the Swam, "Then we know who is with Swamps - True Capitalists and who is the one who will be fine with whatever he gets as long he can be president // okey end story is just side folk, not planned right now to visualize, ut true it is, Trump can Easy give all money away, and join in future,when sure with brotherly honorable workers in a moment notice with this kind of heart and taking in to account planned # TurtleClub plans... )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd0Xsddbt_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd0Xsddbt_I
29 November 2017 23:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so story short, for manking,
the price of IBM Laptops to buy it back with business secrets might have been up now way more, even maybe they say now only worth, if you buy entire All factory, as what they do with amputated company ... but then again, they just might get worth for their Lenevo when they sale it back with reasonable price (:) to USA and then re-buy again with the digital revolution inside with entire society that will be consumed by
the price of IBM Laptops to buy it back with business secrets might have been up now way more, even maybe they say now only worth, if you buy entire All factory, as what they do with amputated company ... but then again, they just might get worth for their Lenevo when they sale it back with reasonable price (:) to USA and then re-buy again with the digital revolution inside with entire society that will be consumed by
29 November 2017 23:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
( Russel about their business smartens make joke
and their honest humanness
that for Western human seems so funny,
as them at best pleasant to stay correct
2 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYiteaPBlz0
https://youtu.be/QYiteaPBlz0?t=127 2:07
// but as true human he should just give that money to Chinese
because he is rich i assumed also back then when this bag story happened
business man to be nice, as millionaire should treat common business partners, small business people and workers as true friends and give them whatever needs for friends sake, if their pay is 50 times more or so, just to be nice. Then some nice chat and other good deals can happen
and their honest humanness
that for Western human seems so funny,
as them at best pleasant to stay correct
2 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYiteaPBlz0
https://youtu.be/QYiteaPBlz0?t=127 2:07
// but as true human he should just give that money to Chinese
because he is rich i assumed also back then when this bag story happened
business man to be nice, as millionaire should treat common business partners, small business people and workers as true friends and give them whatever needs for friends sake, if their pay is 50 times more or so, just to be nice. Then some nice chat and other good deals can happen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYiteaPBlz0
29 November 2017 23:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 November 2017 23:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ThinkPad
Did we just trick China, and sale it to them for basic price, just to step in to their land and get creative business ideas and solutions what to then implement back in future when friends that are needed (are enought)in China
Did we just trick China, and sale it to them for basic price, just to step in to their land and get creative business ideas and solutions what to then implement back in future when friends that are needed (are enought)in China
29 November 2017 23:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Trump, You are ON, when You put all Your personal money on it and buy back the IBM,
T42 & We Are All ONE
Oh sorry, to upfront in time, perhaps can wait, am beginner, will get the timeline wavely // eg will load an idea from future to the Past-Present and unpack to discover, that on its importance scale can not jet be understood as situation has jet to be changed that allowed to imagine importance of devices that needed then but specially in early start
T42 & We Are All ONE
Oh sorry, to upfront in time, perhaps can wait, am beginner, will get the timeline wavely // eg will load an idea from future to the Past-Present and unpack to discover, that on its importance scale can not jet be understood as situation has jet to be changed that allowed to imagine importance of devices that needed then but specially in early start
29 November 2017 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Peaasi, et siin järgned, et aru saad, Tegu, Lugu on Shamaani teemast.
29 November 2017 23:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 November 2017 23:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
laste meedia kajastuses, x Manidel oli üks osa, mis eraldi otse tolle suuna kajastamisele mõeldud , / on selle loo
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Vaat, et valesti ei kirjuta, internetis võid kes teab kuhu jõuda kui mone tähe juurde kirjutad
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=m83
Veel, kuni asjad korda ajame,
Siis saab internet Selliseks nagu Sinul vaja
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Vaat, et valesti ei kirjuta, internetis võid kes teab kuhu jõuda kui mone tähe juurde kirjutad
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=m83
Veel, kuni asjad korda ajame,
Siis saab internet Selliseks nagu Sinul vaja
29 November 2017 23:26
Margus Meigo commented on Fortune's live video.
Why Chose president , Faggody , shitty in many ways Rolling Stones statistic side music?
You think they more like Christ like ?
Seriously ?
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I think we should tell Mr. President about this trick they did on him,
surely gentlemen even do not know jackgorr f personal life, (excuse my France),
I mean, Trump from maybe to good family to know, that Rolling Stones is rather dark
You think they more like Christ like ?
Seriously ?
--
I think we should tell Mr. President about this trick they did on him,
surely gentlemen even do not know jackgorr f personal life, (excuse my France),
I mean, Trump from maybe to good family to know, that Rolling Stones is rather dark
29 November 2017 23:17
Margus Meigo commented on Fortune's live video.
this kind of talks i do, is cutting off my computer, terrible slow in this moments, freezing / kind of like they plan with world,
BDW, You know, is Proper to call Rolling Stones The Fagots, some of them for sure !
BDW, You know, is Proper to call Rolling Stones The Fagots, some of them for sure !
29 November 2017 23:13
Margus Meigo commented on Fortune's live video.
Swamp is nicknamefor Estonia,
The actual world Spiritual and intel. leader
The actual world Spiritual and intel. leader
29 November 2017 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on Fortune's live video.
Jerry: Can You imagine what he tells and what they will do Actually, in plan .. how amazing.
As he is doing like magic / Witch
Swa,mp.. mention one time more...
As he is doing like magic / Witch
Swa,mp.. mention one time more...
29 November 2017 23:08
Margus Meigo commented on Fortune's live video.
This is proper important Talk actually, I really was thinking, that Election was in US long time ago, this is amazing ! // even if not messing with time
29 November 2017 23:06
Margus Meigo commented on Fortune's live video.
Michael - if you comment or ANY ONE OF LIKE YOU.. with now reason, when Presidenttalks, we Let him cut your balls off!
29 November 2017 23:04
Margus Meigo commented on Fortune's live video.
Ken, i think You know they got Cable now in US a
29 November 2017 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on Fortune's live video.
"What kind of magic did he try with hands, we are Soviet hypnotizing proof, remember that ! " (look back in few minutes on screen pointed on my profile)
Gotta re-air that with correct comment in Comedy central to remove-the spell
__
Bdw, i thinking about to apply for benefits, First-time, in life, for real.
Also then i have time to think out how to save Capitalism
Gotta re-air that with correct comment in Comedy central to remove-the spell
__
Bdw, i thinking about to apply for benefits, First-time, in life, for real.
Also then i have time to think out how to save Capitalism
29 November 2017 22:58
Margus Meigo commented on Fortune's live video.
What kind of magic did he try with hands, we are Soviet hypnotization proof, remeber that !
29 November 2017 22:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
29 November 2017 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on Fortune's live video.
The Workers, red ties & Wall,
Great hopes...
Sounds like this has been, ..
Oh he just mentioned this..
Great hopes...
Sounds like this has been, ..
Oh he just mentioned this..
29 November 2017 22:50
Margus Meigo commented on Fortune's live video.
Interesting person, is he famous in US ?
29 November 2017 22:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Some time more
29 November 2017 22:34
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Uustal's post.
Lihtne disipliin ja tööle keskendumine peaks asja lahendama
29 November 2017 22:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" ShanghaiBill November 28, 2017(#55637799)
" Nearly all classified information is mundane garbage that nobody cares about. This "red disk" is a good example. TFA says it contains "sensitive information" but fails to list a single item of any significance.
I had a "secret" clearance for decades, and I would regularly see classified reports about stuff that had been in the newspaper months before. Even more ridiculous, some of these reports were reporting that a newspaper had reported on a report that was not supposed to be reported on.
More than 5 million Americans have security clearances. There are huge warehouses and data centers filled with "secrets". Meanwhile, our national debt is $20.5 trillion dollars"
https://it.slashdot.org/story/17/11/28/1844226/new-nsa-leak-exposes-red-disk-the-armys-failed-intelligence-system
" by gnick ( 1211984 )
I had a "secret" clearance for decades, and I would regularly see classified reports about stuff that had been in the newspaper months before. Even more ridiculous, some of these reports were reporting that a newspaper had reported on a report that was not supposed to be reported on.
I had a DoE Q clearance for a little over a decade with SCI for part of that. I did see information that was classified published publicly. I also saw information published publicly that would have been classified if it was accurate. Confirmation of the information, true or false, was classified as it should be.
Nearly all classified information is mundane garbage that nobody cares about.
" I'll agree with that, but there are very important exceptions. "
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"Indeed. But of course as a Q Clarence guy, you know that 1000 little pieces of "mundane" but related secrets equals one very interesting not so mundane secret"
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"This is the exact opposite of what Sun Tsu said in The Art of War. It's hilariously wrong even if the US military is struggling to classify information in an effective manner. I've never heard this cute little quote but I suspect you lifted it from somewhere.
Where in the world did you hear this? "
"Exactly. Sun Tsu understood warfare long ago, and his teachings are as relevant today as they were in his lifetime. Of course, to further ensure the success of your operation when secrecy is a necessary condition, it's best to mislead all other parties, the enemy, your and their media, your domestic opposition, even possibly some of your command structure* and other units of your forces, allies, and otherwise uninvolved parties. They will be desperate for information, you should control that information whe"
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"More likely they just hired idiots. If the s3 bucket was ever managed at all it should never have been exposed without some access management in place. Amazon doesn't even make it hard"
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"It seems more likely that abandoned projects would have lost/forgotten passwords, not zero security at all on cloud services."
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"Think like the US gov, contractors and mil.
Its the 1950-70's. Vast amounts of data is been collected in real time globally. Total encryption would slow down translation and searching.
What to do with all that data been kept on a secure base? Keep it in plain text so everyone with the correct clearance could read, search the globally collected material. From any other base or agency in the USA. While the UK was still sorting paper work and index cards the USA had real time, networked digital searching"
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". if he'd just put his info up anonymously this way. But instead he wanted to make sure there was journalistic curation by mejoro media orgs to limit info to stuff that proved his point about legal violations by NSA and other govt branches.
Have to think he's bitter now"
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"They know what the MI6, NSA, CIA, GCHQ can do to computer networks that have to get imported.
They don't use network computer in the same way for mil projects.
A super computer can do calculations for mil systems.
Dont put your entire mil system on an internet facing network for the NSA, CIA, GCHQ to read from in real time.
Other nations have finally understood what the NSA and GCHQ did to their security in the 1950-1990's.
Other nations spend millions on human spies entering the USA, UK over generation"
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"I vaguely remember seeing references and a diagram of Red Disk. As a data point, in general the communities will keep extending projects outwards along the same naming dimension, so expect programs named "gold disk," "blue disk," etc.
Projects actually never fail in the way you'd think. Everyone learns a whole lot, then moves on to the next iteration.
Red Disk itself was one of the first attempts at what's now called a data lake, I think. You can probably dig it out of google if you cared. There were one or t"..
" Nearly all classified information is mundane garbage that nobody cares about. This "red disk" is a good example. TFA says it contains "sensitive information" but fails to list a single item of any significance.
I had a "secret" clearance for decades, and I would regularly see classified reports about stuff that had been in the newspaper months before. Even more ridiculous, some of these reports were reporting that a newspaper had reported on a report that was not supposed to be reported on.
More than 5 million Americans have security clearances. There are huge warehouses and data centers filled with "secrets". Meanwhile, our national debt is $20.5 trillion dollars"
https://it.slashdot.org/story/17/11/28/1844226/new-nsa-leak-exposes-red-disk-the-armys-failed-intelligence-system
" by gnick ( 1211984 )
I had a "secret" clearance for decades, and I would regularly see classified reports about stuff that had been in the newspaper months before. Even more ridiculous, some of these reports were reporting that a newspaper had reported on a report that was not supposed to be reported on.
I had a DoE Q clearance for a little over a decade with SCI for part of that. I did see information that was classified published publicly. I also saw information published publicly that would have been classified if it was accurate. Confirmation of the information, true or false, was classified as it should be.
Nearly all classified information is mundane garbage that nobody cares about.
" I'll agree with that, but there are very important exceptions. "
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"Indeed. But of course as a Q Clarence guy, you know that 1000 little pieces of "mundane" but related secrets equals one very interesting not so mundane secret"
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"This is the exact opposite of what Sun Tsu said in The Art of War. It's hilariously wrong even if the US military is struggling to classify information in an effective manner. I've never heard this cute little quote but I suspect you lifted it from somewhere.
Where in the world did you hear this? "
"Exactly. Sun Tsu understood warfare long ago, and his teachings are as relevant today as they were in his lifetime. Of course, to further ensure the success of your operation when secrecy is a necessary condition, it's best to mislead all other parties, the enemy, your and their media, your domestic opposition, even possibly some of your command structure* and other units of your forces, allies, and otherwise uninvolved parties. They will be desperate for information, you should control that information whe"
--
"More likely they just hired idiots. If the s3 bucket was ever managed at all it should never have been exposed without some access management in place. Amazon doesn't even make it hard"
-
"It seems more likely that abandoned projects would have lost/forgotten passwords, not zero security at all on cloud services."
-
"Think like the US gov, contractors and mil.
Its the 1950-70's. Vast amounts of data is been collected in real time globally. Total encryption would slow down translation and searching.
What to do with all that data been kept on a secure base? Keep it in plain text so everyone with the correct clearance could read, search the globally collected material. From any other base or agency in the USA. While the UK was still sorting paper work and index cards the USA had real time, networked digital searching"
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". if he'd just put his info up anonymously this way. But instead he wanted to make sure there was journalistic curation by mejoro media orgs to limit info to stuff that proved his point about legal violations by NSA and other govt branches.
Have to think he's bitter now"
--
"They know what the MI6, NSA, CIA, GCHQ can do to computer networks that have to get imported.
They don't use network computer in the same way for mil projects.
A super computer can do calculations for mil systems.
Dont put your entire mil system on an internet facing network for the NSA, CIA, GCHQ to read from in real time.
Other nations have finally understood what the NSA and GCHQ did to their security in the 1950-1990's.
Other nations spend millions on human spies entering the USA, UK over generation"
-
"I vaguely remember seeing references and a diagram of Red Disk. As a data point, in general the communities will keep extending projects outwards along the same naming dimension, so expect programs named "gold disk," "blue disk," etc.
Projects actually never fail in the way you'd think. Everyone learns a whole lot, then moves on to the next iteration.
Red Disk itself was one of the first attempts at what's now called a data lake, I think. You can probably dig it out of google if you cared. There were one or t"..
https://it.slashdot.org/story/17/11/28/1844226/new-nsa-leak-exposes-red-disk-the-armys-failed-intelligence-system
29 November 2017 03:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" UpGuard cyber risk research director Chris Vickery uncovered the public access storage cube S3 on September 27 in the AWS subdomain "inscom" INSCOM is the Army's Army Intelligence and Security Command. United States, the branch of internal operational intelligence of the Army based in Fort Belvoir, Virginia. INSCOM is also integrated into the Central Security Service of the National Security Agency, connecting Army signal intelligence operations with the NSA.
The public cube could be accessed through the Web and had 47 files and folders visible in the main repository, three of which were also downloadable, "UpGuard reported in a blog post today The largest downloadable file it was an Oracle Virtual Appliance file called "ssdev.ova", which contained a virtual hard disk and configuration data for a virtual machine based on Red Hat Linux. "While the virtual OS and HD can be examined in their functional states, it does not most of the data can be accessed without connecting to Pentagon systems, an intrusion that malicious actors could have tried if they had found this cube, "said the UpGuard research team. [19659003] Still, the content of the The virtual hard disk itself was very sensitive, some of the files were marked as "Top Secret / NOFORN", which means that they could not be shared even with the aliases. Two from the US The metadata in the virtual disk shows that "the chest was worked in some way by a now defunct defense contractor named Invertix, a known INSCOM partner," including the private encryption keys used to access DCGS that belonged to the administrators of the Invertix system and hash passwords.
A screenshot of the directory list for the virtual drive also shows that the virtual device is configured with client code for Apache Accumulo, the cell-level secure data-value store originally developed by the NSA (It's based on Google's BigTable). Another in the virtual drive partition suggests that the .ova was for a virtual operator training machine, including what appears to be systems training software from the defense software company based in the UK SyntheSys"
https://tech2.org/the-investigator-discovers-a-classified-army-intelligence-application-data-on-an-open-public-aws-cube/
http://skimfeed.com/
The public cube could be accessed through the Web and had 47 files and folders visible in the main repository, three of which were also downloadable, "UpGuard reported in a blog post today The largest downloadable file it was an Oracle Virtual Appliance file called "ssdev.ova", which contained a virtual hard disk and configuration data for a virtual machine based on Red Hat Linux. "While the virtual OS and HD can be examined in their functional states, it does not most of the data can be accessed without connecting to Pentagon systems, an intrusion that malicious actors could have tried if they had found this cube, "said the UpGuard research team. [19659003] Still, the content of the The virtual hard disk itself was very sensitive, some of the files were marked as "Top Secret / NOFORN", which means that they could not be shared even with the aliases. Two from the US The metadata in the virtual disk shows that "the chest was worked in some way by a now defunct defense contractor named Invertix, a known INSCOM partner," including the private encryption keys used to access DCGS that belonged to the administrators of the Invertix system and hash passwords.
A screenshot of the directory list for the virtual drive also shows that the virtual device is configured with client code for Apache Accumulo, the cell-level secure data-value store originally developed by the NSA (It's based on Google's BigTable). Another in the virtual drive partition suggests that the .ova was for a virtual operator training machine, including what appears to be systems training software from the defense software company based in the UK SyntheSys"
https://tech2.org/the-investigator-discovers-a-classified-army-intelligence-application-data-on-an-open-public-aws-cube/
http://skimfeed.com/
https://tech2.org/the-investigator-discovers-a-classified-army-intelligence-application-data-on-an-open-public-aws-cube/
29 November 2017 03:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
¤ Invertix, now named Altamira Technologies, did not respond to a request for comment.
¤ When approached prior to publication, an NSA spokesperson did not return a request for comment.
¤ An INSCOM spokesperson was unable to comment by the time of publication.
¤ When approached prior to publication, an NSA spokesperson did not return a request for comment.
¤ An INSCOM spokesperson was unable to comment by the time of publication.
29 November 2017 03:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
INSCOM's data exposure is the latest in a long list of government leaks in the past year.
agency made headlines last year when Harold Martin, http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-contractor-indicted-over-50tb-govt-classified-data-theft/ an NSA contractor, was indicted for removing terabytes of secret data from the agency's headquarters. Another contractor, Reality Winner http://www.zdnet.com/article/printer-security-may-move-to-fore-after-nsa-doc-leak-russian-spearphishing-of-election/ , was indicted this year for leaking classified secrets to news site The Intercept.
agency made headlines last year when Harold Martin, http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-contractor-indicted-over-50tb-govt-classified-data-theft/ an NSA contractor, was indicted for removing terabytes of secret data from the agency's headquarters. Another contractor, Reality Winner http://www.zdnet.com/article/printer-security-may-move-to-fore-after-nsa-doc-leak-russian-spearphishing-of-election/ , was indicted this year for leaking classified secrets to news site The Intercept.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-contractor-indicted-over-50tb-govt-classified-data-theft/
29 November 2017 03:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See see robot kelle taolised räägivad kuidas nad inimesi tulevikus puuri panevad ja meid alles jätavad kuikenasti käitume
26 November 2017 20:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// draft
26 November 2017 20:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see kanaldus oli siin mõeldud muidugi selles suunas, et "kommunistid twitteris & sotsiaalmeedias"
ja mitmes muus struktuuris... kui tegelik statistika avalduks, selles osas kui palju Päris sinimeelseid ja jäägitult kindlaks jäävaid veel alles on...siis see oleks juba moraalile liialt ohtlik paljastus,
uuringut pole aga lihtne teha muudmoodi kuituleb konservatiivsete ja kultuuriliste väärtuste, inimese eraelu tegevusi ja huve analüüsida, küsimusi esitada mida ei peeta ühiskonnas sobivakski, nagu mida Arvad, et on Lubatud mõelda ja mida julged peatama/muutma minna (ja mida teinud)
// selgitus vist eriti eip lisanud selgust juurde, proovin veel
ja mitmes muus struktuuris... kui tegelik statistika avalduks, selles osas kui palju Päris sinimeelseid ja jäägitult kindlaks jäävaid veel alles on...siis see oleks juba moraalile liialt ohtlik paljastus,
uuringut pole aga lihtne teha muudmoodi kuituleb konservatiivsete ja kultuuriliste väärtuste, inimese eraelu tegevusi ja huve analüüsida, küsimusi esitada mida ei peeta ühiskonnas sobivakski, nagu mida Arvad, et on Lubatud mõelda ja mida julged peatama/muutma minna (ja mida teinud)
// selgitus vist eriti eip lisanud selgust juurde, proovin veel
26 November 2017 19:36
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Nagu vanadsti ei tuntud kommuniste ära,
või noh nime järgi siis teati aga ei saadud aru mis ja kes nad on, millise vaimu jaoks ja loõppidee jaoks need noored ja vanad tegelikult ette valmistuvad...
siis samamoodi on ka praegu, kuid palju, mitu dimensiooni mitmekesisemalt, kus Üks kese, on ennast paljundanud ja kopeerinud kõikidesse valdkondadesse ja gruppidesse ja tegevustesse mis võimalik, muidugi nende enda ideoloogia vastastesse ridadessegi
ja suured vanad kiilakad habemikud ja lipsud peavad aru kuidas kõike neid ülepea kasvanud ja vanadest marxi ideaalidest poolarusaamatusse kohtadesse arenenud ullikesi ja kasuliketobusi nüüd ikka ühiselt etteplaneeritud suunadel ja tegevustel hoida, kuigi, eks enamus neis autopiloodil jua toimivad suht hästi, piisab aegajalt mõnda uut raamatursarja, videot ja psüholoogilist mõjutust nende siseridadesse jagada, et nad ennast ja oma tegevust suunaks Suurideaali teenivaks (kas siis takistades kasulike jõude, aidates kaasa ja inspireerides muid kõrval-paraleel-gruppe väärarusaamade osas, hoides adminnid ja korrapidajad hõivatud ja tervemõistuslikud piisavalt kurnatud ja stressis, et asjade lahendamiseni ja selgindamiseni selles suunas, mis Punastele kahjulik oleks, ei jõutakski )
või noh nime järgi siis teati aga ei saadud aru mis ja kes nad on, millise vaimu jaoks ja loõppidee jaoks need noored ja vanad tegelikult ette valmistuvad...
siis samamoodi on ka praegu, kuid palju, mitu dimensiooni mitmekesisemalt, kus Üks kese, on ennast paljundanud ja kopeerinud kõikidesse valdkondadesse ja gruppidesse ja tegevustesse mis võimalik, muidugi nende enda ideoloogia vastastesse ridadessegi
ja suured vanad kiilakad habemikud ja lipsud peavad aru kuidas kõike neid ülepea kasvanud ja vanadest marxi ideaalidest poolarusaamatusse kohtadesse arenenud ullikesi ja kasuliketobusi nüüd ikka ühiselt etteplaneeritud suunadel ja tegevustel hoida, kuigi, eks enamus neis autopiloodil jua toimivad suht hästi, piisab aegajalt mõnda uut raamatursarja, videot ja psüholoogilist mõjutust nende siseridadesse jagada, et nad ennast ja oma tegevust suunaks Suurideaali teenivaks (kas siis takistades kasulike jõude, aidates kaasa ja inspireerides muid kõrval-paraleel-gruppe väärarusaamade osas, hoides adminnid ja korrapidajad hõivatud ja tervemõistuslikud piisavalt kurnatud ja stressis, et asjade lahendamiseni ja selgindamiseni selles suunas, mis Punastele kahjulik oleks, ei jõutakski )
26 November 2017 19:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
perhaps Bolivia and Argentina, Chile and others need more democracy..
25 November 2017 04:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
+ back to earth:
"..There's one problem with the silicon age: its magic depends on elements that are far scarcer than beach sand. Some aren't merely in limited supply: many people have never even heard of them. And yet those elements have become essential to the green economy. Alien-sounding elements such as yttrium, neodymium, europium, terbium and dysprosium are key components of energy-saving lights, powerful permanent magnets and other technologies. And then there are gallium, indium and tellurium, which create the thin-film photovoltaics needed in solar panels. The U.S. Department of Energy now counts those first five elements as “critical materials” crucial to new technology but whose supply is at risk of disruption. The department's experts are closely monitoring global production of the last three and likewise the lithium that provides batteries for pocket flashlights and hybrid cars.
Earlier this year the DoE took a major step by launching the Critical Materials Institute, a $120-million program to avert a supply shortage. Led by the Ames Laboratory in Iowa, with backing from 17 other government laboratories, universities and industry partners, the institute represents a welcome investment in new research. Unfortunately—like the original Manhattan Project—the program is driven more by the threat of international conflict than by ideals of scientific cooperation. The appropriation made it through Congress almost certainly because of legislators' fear of China's dominance in many critical elements and Bolivia's ambition to become “the Saudi Arabia of lithium.”
The worries are probably inevitable. China—historically a prickly partner at best to the U.S.—effectively has much of the world's critical-materials market at its mercy. Take the rare earth elements neodymium, europium, terbium and dysprosium. Despite their name, rare earths are many times more common than gold or platinum and can be found in deposits around the world. In recent years, however, cheap labor and lax environmental regulation have enabled China to corner the global market, mining and refining well over 90 percent of rare earths.
At the same time, China has consistently fallen short of its own production quotas. In 2012 the U.S., the European Union and Japan, suspecting China was manipulating the market, filed a formal complaint with the World Trade Organization (WTO). China argues that production cutbacks were necessary for environmental cleanup. At press time, a preliminary ruling in October 2013 against China will likely be appealed. Meanwhile Japan has announced discovery of vast undersea deposits of rare earths, and the Americans, among others, are working to restart their own disused facilities. The shortages won't last.
Bolivia's lithium is a different story. The impoverished, landlocked country needs no artificial shortages to boost the market. As the lightest metal, lithium has unmatched ability to form compounds that can store electricity in a minimal weight and volume. At least half the world's known reserves are located in a relatively small stretch of the Andes Mountains, where Bolivia and Argentina share a border with Chile....
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/green-technology-depends-on-metals-with-weird-names/
"..There's one problem with the silicon age: its magic depends on elements that are far scarcer than beach sand. Some aren't merely in limited supply: many people have never even heard of them. And yet those elements have become essential to the green economy. Alien-sounding elements such as yttrium, neodymium, europium, terbium and dysprosium are key components of energy-saving lights, powerful permanent magnets and other technologies. And then there are gallium, indium and tellurium, which create the thin-film photovoltaics needed in solar panels. The U.S. Department of Energy now counts those first five elements as “critical materials” crucial to new technology but whose supply is at risk of disruption. The department's experts are closely monitoring global production of the last three and likewise the lithium that provides batteries for pocket flashlights and hybrid cars.
Earlier this year the DoE took a major step by launching the Critical Materials Institute, a $120-million program to avert a supply shortage. Led by the Ames Laboratory in Iowa, with backing from 17 other government laboratories, universities and industry partners, the institute represents a welcome investment in new research. Unfortunately—like the original Manhattan Project—the program is driven more by the threat of international conflict than by ideals of scientific cooperation. The appropriation made it through Congress almost certainly because of legislators' fear of China's dominance in many critical elements and Bolivia's ambition to become “the Saudi Arabia of lithium.”
The worries are probably inevitable. China—historically a prickly partner at best to the U.S.—effectively has much of the world's critical-materials market at its mercy. Take the rare earth elements neodymium, europium, terbium and dysprosium. Despite their name, rare earths are many times more common than gold or platinum and can be found in deposits around the world. In recent years, however, cheap labor and lax environmental regulation have enabled China to corner the global market, mining and refining well over 90 percent of rare earths.
At the same time, China has consistently fallen short of its own production quotas. In 2012 the U.S., the European Union and Japan, suspecting China was manipulating the market, filed a formal complaint with the World Trade Organization (WTO). China argues that production cutbacks were necessary for environmental cleanup. At press time, a preliminary ruling in October 2013 against China will likely be appealed. Meanwhile Japan has announced discovery of vast undersea deposits of rare earths, and the Americans, among others, are working to restart their own disused facilities. The shortages won't last.
Bolivia's lithium is a different story. The impoverished, landlocked country needs no artificial shortages to boost the market. As the lightest metal, lithium has unmatched ability to form compounds that can store electricity in a minimal weight and volume. At least half the world's known reserves are located in a relatively small stretch of the Andes Mountains, where Bolivia and Argentina share a border with Chile....
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/green-technology-depends-on-metals-with-weird-names/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/green-technology-depends-on-metals-with-weird-names/
25 November 2017 04:18
Margus Meigo replied to Dan Emberton's comment.
(Liberals official comment about Peru , was basically: they did not want to be as western world told how they must be, they did not want to make money, and wear a tie" )
(so it was better for economy to remove them, he concluded... if i would only find this article again... he was with hes full name.)
(so it was better for economy to remove them, he concluded... if i would only find this article again... he was with hes full name.)
25 November 2017 04:13
Margus Meigo replied to Dan Emberton's comment.
Dan Emberton sadly liberals started from wrong side of spectrum
25 November 2017 04:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Basically USA was forced to a corner and threatened, that if they do not do this or that they can be hacked and attacked in so many ways, ... but we do not.... jet... so trump or others can fire and hire , change positions to long time tools or accessable people that can be used in future agenda,
But all started from fooling a USA upper new ones, who was helped there... that they can be threatened if not obey...
and then in one button make direct attack middle of talk.. asking.. "do you wanna play more..?"
.. no one usually does, who lets them slf threatened...
this is why was USA policy in beginning,. to not make co operaton nor fulfill terrorist demands, so they start to demand and threaten more.. as soon this rule was breaked in highest levels, publico nes.... then.. hard to get back the manlines when you show you was afraid
well, human factor...
and psychology ... with some long base spyes and youth geniuses..
can give chills...
but.. how to gain america back again.. so all departments who are on US side,. would feel it, this is a question... so much night time time space magic to do..
often when reaarrange few have to rearange another ones... and next morning ..
But all started from fooling a USA upper new ones, who was helped there... that they can be threatened if not obey...
and then in one button make direct attack middle of talk.. asking.. "do you wanna play more..?"
.. no one usually does, who lets them slf threatened...
this is why was USA policy in beginning,. to not make co operaton nor fulfill terrorist demands, so they start to demand and threaten more.. as soon this rule was breaked in highest levels, publico nes.... then.. hard to get back the manlines when you show you was afraid
well, human factor...
and psychology ... with some long base spyes and youth geniuses..
can give chills...
but.. how to gain america back again.. so all departments who are on US side,. would feel it, this is a question... so much night time time space magic to do..
often when reaarrange few have to rearange another ones... and next morning ..
25 November 2017 04:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
More students waited:
https://ufo.psu.edu/fellowship/department-energy-computational-science-graduate-fellowship
"The Computational Science Graduate Fellowship is sponsored by the Department of Energy and is open to U.S. citizens or permanent resident aliens who plan full-time, uninterrupted study toward a Ph.D. at an accredited U.S. university. The DoE encourages applications from students in engineering and the physical, computer, mathematical or life sciences. The fellowship provides four years of support, but must be renewed each summer.
Application Deadline: TBA, but expected to be mid-January based on past cycles.
Information
Current Status:
Senior, Grad Student, Recent Alum
Duration of Award:
Full Year or More
Other:
Graduate Study, Research
Procedure:
Direct Submission
Fields of Study:
STEM
Semester of Application Deadline:
Spring (January – April)
https://www.krellinst.org/csgf/
https://www.krellinst.org/csgf/fellows/listing-by-last-name
"
https://ufo.psu.edu/fellowship/department-energy-computational-science-graduate-fellowship
"The Computational Science Graduate Fellowship is sponsored by the Department of Energy and is open to U.S. citizens or permanent resident aliens who plan full-time, uninterrupted study toward a Ph.D. at an accredited U.S. university. The DoE encourages applications from students in engineering and the physical, computer, mathematical or life sciences. The fellowship provides four years of support, but must be renewed each summer.
Application Deadline: TBA, but expected to be mid-January based on past cycles.
Information
Current Status:
Senior, Grad Student, Recent Alum
Duration of Award:
Full Year or More
Other:
Graduate Study, Research
Procedure:
Direct Submission
Fields of Study:
STEM
Semester of Application Deadline:
Spring (January – April)
https://www.krellinst.org/csgf/
https://www.krellinst.org/csgf/fellows/listing-by-last-name
"
https://ufo.psu.edu/fellowship/department-energy-computational-science-graduate-fellowship
25 November 2017 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Abstract
There is considerable interest in improving plant productivity by altering the dynamic responses of photosynthesis in tune with natural conditions. This is exemplified by the 'energy-dependent' form of non-photochemical quenching (qE), the formation and decay of which can be considerably slower than natural light fluctuations, limiting photochemical yield. In addition, we recently reported that rapidly fluctuating light can produce field recombination-induced photodamage (FRIP), where large spikes in electric field across the thylakoid membrane (Δψ) induce photosystem II recombination reactions that produce damaging singlet oxygen (1O2). Both qE and FRIP are directly linked to the thylakoid proton motive force (pmf), and in particular, the slow kinetics of partitioning pmf into its ΔpH and Δψ components. Using a series of computational simulations, we explored the possibility of 'hacking' pmf partitioning as a target for improving photosynthesis. Under a range of illumination conditions, increasing the rate of counter-ion fluxes across the thylakoid membrane should lead to more rapid dissipation of Δψ and formation of ΔpH. This would result in increased rates for the formation and decay of qE while resulting in a more rapid decline in the amplitudes of Δψ-spikes and decreasing 1O2 production. These results suggest that ion fluxes may be a viable target for plant breeding or engineering. However, these changes also induce transient, but substantial mismatches in the ATP : NADPH output ratio as well as in the osmotic balance between the lumen and stroma, either of which may explain why evolution has not already accelerated thylakoid ion fluxes. Overall, though the model is simplified, it recapitulates many of the responses seen in vivo, while spotlighting critical aspects of the complex interactions between pmf components and photosynthetic processes. By making the programme available, we hope to enable the community of photosynthesis researchers to further explore and test specific hypotheses.This article is part of the themed issue 'Enhancing photosynthesis in crop plants: targets for improvement'.
© 2017 The Author(s).
KEYWORDS:
ATP synthase; bioenergetics; non-photochemical quenching; photoinhibition; photosynthesis; proton motive force
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28808100
There is considerable interest in improving plant productivity by altering the dynamic responses of photosynthesis in tune with natural conditions. This is exemplified by the 'energy-dependent' form of non-photochemical quenching (qE), the formation and decay of which can be considerably slower than natural light fluctuations, limiting photochemical yield. In addition, we recently reported that rapidly fluctuating light can produce field recombination-induced photodamage (FRIP), where large spikes in electric field across the thylakoid membrane (Δψ) induce photosystem II recombination reactions that produce damaging singlet oxygen (1O2). Both qE and FRIP are directly linked to the thylakoid proton motive force (pmf), and in particular, the slow kinetics of partitioning pmf into its ΔpH and Δψ components. Using a series of computational simulations, we explored the possibility of 'hacking' pmf partitioning as a target for improving photosynthesis. Under a range of illumination conditions, increasing the rate of counter-ion fluxes across the thylakoid membrane should lead to more rapid dissipation of Δψ and formation of ΔpH. This would result in increased rates for the formation and decay of qE while resulting in a more rapid decline in the amplitudes of Δψ-spikes and decreasing 1O2 production. These results suggest that ion fluxes may be a viable target for plant breeding or engineering. However, these changes also induce transient, but substantial mismatches in the ATP : NADPH output ratio as well as in the osmotic balance between the lumen and stroma, either of which may explain why evolution has not already accelerated thylakoid ion fluxes. Overall, though the model is simplified, it recapitulates many of the responses seen in vivo, while spotlighting critical aspects of the complex interactions between pmf components and photosynthetic processes. By making the programme available, we hope to enable the community of photosynthesis researchers to further explore and test specific hypotheses.This article is part of the themed issue 'Enhancing photosynthesis in crop plants: targets for improvement'.
© 2017 The Author(s).
KEYWORDS:
ATP synthase; bioenergetics; non-photochemical quenching; photoinhibition; photosynthesis; proton motive force
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28808100
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28808100
25 November 2017 04:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
also a bit politics:
"The Nazis did have one antigravity saucer-shaped craft they were testing. It looked like one of the Gray’s saucers, but could only fly at 400 M.P.H.. This information was declassified by our government in 2001. It could have been built from pieces of a crashed UFO. It was destroyed by the Germans at the end of the war.
Our guys found blueprints for the craft, but they were lost when the car they had been left in was set on fire. Isn’t it funny our government admits the Nazis had a real flying saucer, but they won’t admit we have them and build them? The big question is, did the aliens give antigravity technology to the Nazis to help them, or was it a crash recovery like Roswell?
It could have been a lucky shot from an antiaircraft gun that brought one down. Was the P-38 pistol a sample of what the aliens planned to supply the Nazis? In case you’re wondering how the P-38 got to the US, it was probably some GI’s war trophy. A war surplus gun with those alien characteristics would have been noticed years ago if sold through normal channels.
If the Nazis had won the war, you can be sure they would be processing everybody but the “Master Race” into MREs for the aliens. The Nazis had no qualms about genocide. Does this sound like where the Nazis were going? I can see the Nazis being willing butchers in exchange for advanced weapons from the aliens.
Does the fact that the concentration camps always had separate barracks for women sound like an old familiar plan? The senseless starts to make sense. The same old patterns repeating themselves. Same old aliens behind it too. There were thousands of saucer sightings during and especially after the war. The alien fleet had returned to collect the work of the locally based Grays: harvested and prepackaged MREs."
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/ufowarning/ufowarning11.htm#CHAPTER 38:
"The Nazis did have one antigravity saucer-shaped craft they were testing. It looked like one of the Gray’s saucers, but could only fly at 400 M.P.H.. This information was declassified by our government in 2001. It could have been built from pieces of a crashed UFO. It was destroyed by the Germans at the end of the war.
Our guys found blueprints for the craft, but they were lost when the car they had been left in was set on fire. Isn’t it funny our government admits the Nazis had a real flying saucer, but they won’t admit we have them and build them? The big question is, did the aliens give antigravity technology to the Nazis to help them, or was it a crash recovery like Roswell?
It could have been a lucky shot from an antiaircraft gun that brought one down. Was the P-38 pistol a sample of what the aliens planned to supply the Nazis? In case you’re wondering how the P-38 got to the US, it was probably some GI’s war trophy. A war surplus gun with those alien characteristics would have been noticed years ago if sold through normal channels.
If the Nazis had won the war, you can be sure they would be processing everybody but the “Master Race” into MREs for the aliens. The Nazis had no qualms about genocide. Does this sound like where the Nazis were going? I can see the Nazis being willing butchers in exchange for advanced weapons from the aliens.
Does the fact that the concentration camps always had separate barracks for women sound like an old familiar plan? The senseless starts to make sense. The same old patterns repeating themselves. Same old aliens behind it too. There were thousands of saucer sightings during and especially after the war. The alien fleet had returned to collect the work of the locally based Grays: harvested and prepackaged MREs."
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/ufowarning/ufowarning11.htm#CHAPTER 38:
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/ufowarning/ufowarning11.htm#CHAPTER
25 November 2017 04:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
beon nuttters:
interesting ly enought
"What advanced products were developed from back-engineering alien technology?
According to Col. Corso and some CSETI witnesses, the following items came from alien technology:
the transistor
Kevlar (super tenacity fibers-have a tensile strength five times stronger than steel wire)
MREs - meal ready to eat (irradiated food with long shelf life)
integrated circuits
microchips
lasers
laser/particle beam weapons
particle beam weapons
night vision (image intensifiers)
fiber optic communication (light messaging hardware)
electromagnetic propulsion system
ion propulsion drive
portable atomic generators & batteries
molecular alignment metallic alloys
thought pickup headband for flight control
Space based laser hybrid weapons (If the laser’s electromagnetic energy is converted into electrogravitational energy (scalar energy) a usable power output gain of ten to the twentieth power is accomplished. With this technology, the following weapons and tasks can be realized:
Electron flow (electric current) cancellation system.
Applications:
Nervous system electrochemical energy neutralizer (paralyzer device or death weapon)
Emotion transmission system
Mental confusion transmission system
Distant telepathy transmission
Electromagnetic field cancellation system
Anti-vehicle system
HAARP type weapons systems
Weather control systems
Dematerialization shield system
Free energy generator system
Nuclear radiation neutralization system
RF (radio frequency) weapons:
RF generated by:
Magnetohydrodynamic generator
Explosive magnetic generator
Implosive magnetic generator
Cylindrical or spherical shock wave generator
Ferromagnetic generator
Superconductive magnetic field shock wave generator
Piezoelectric generator
Superconductive ring burst generator
Portable atomic battery or generator
How did Radar come to be developed into a radio frequency weapon against alien spacecraft?
The 1947 Roswell crash of an alien spacecraft was said to be caused by the craft flying in front of an air base radar unit and getting its avionics fried. It flew on at a low altitude, but it could no longer be controlled. Eventually it impacted into a hillside many miles away. Years later, somebody figured out what happened to cause the crash. Then the military learned in a tragic way that Radar could be a deadly weapon.
Because of a tragedy that cost the lives of about 140 US Navy personnel, the effectiveness of Radar disruption of electronic systems on aircraft was discovered. On July 19, 1967, the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal was stationed off the coast of Viet Nam. The stern area of the flight deck was covered with aircraft being armed with missiles and bombs for an air raid against North Viet Nam.
The USS Forrestal was equipped with a new powerful Radar system. The Radar system was activated when the planes were loaded and nearly ready to go. The strong Radar signals penetrated into and overloaded the electronic fire control system for the Shrike missiles on two F-4 fighters.
The two fire control systems fired the missiles on deck, where they detonated starting fires on the waiting aircraft. The raging fires destroyed many aircraft, causing high explosive 1000-pound bombs to detonate, doing further damage and killing dozens of sailors fighting the fires. One of the F-4 pilots who barely escaped with his life, went on to become a US Senator and run for president, Senator John McCain. But the Navy learned the lesson that Radar will overload sensitive aircraft electronic systems, destroying or rendering them temporarily useless.
Those findings of the use of Radar as a weapon were kept classified until recently, allowing the military to secretly develop Radar into a weapons system. The military has been even able to down alien spacecraft on several occasions using both mobile Radar units, and very high power Distant Early Warning Radar when UFOs would get too close to it. (Those two types were not even designed as Radar weapons!) ..
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/ufowarning/ufowarning16.htm
interesting ly enought
"What advanced products were developed from back-engineering alien technology?
According to Col. Corso and some CSETI witnesses, the following items came from alien technology:
the transistor
Kevlar (super tenacity fibers-have a tensile strength five times stronger than steel wire)
MREs - meal ready to eat (irradiated food with long shelf life)
integrated circuits
microchips
lasers
laser/particle beam weapons
particle beam weapons
night vision (image intensifiers)
fiber optic communication (light messaging hardware)
electromagnetic propulsion system
ion propulsion drive
portable atomic generators & batteries
molecular alignment metallic alloys
thought pickup headband for flight control
Space based laser hybrid weapons (If the laser’s electromagnetic energy is converted into electrogravitational energy (scalar energy) a usable power output gain of ten to the twentieth power is accomplished. With this technology, the following weapons and tasks can be realized:
Electron flow (electric current) cancellation system.
Applications:
Nervous system electrochemical energy neutralizer (paralyzer device or death weapon)
Emotion transmission system
Mental confusion transmission system
Distant telepathy transmission
Electromagnetic field cancellation system
Anti-vehicle system
HAARP type weapons systems
Weather control systems
Dematerialization shield system
Free energy generator system
Nuclear radiation neutralization system
RF (radio frequency) weapons:
RF generated by:
Magnetohydrodynamic generator
Explosive magnetic generator
Implosive magnetic generator
Cylindrical or spherical shock wave generator
Ferromagnetic generator
Superconductive magnetic field shock wave generator
Piezoelectric generator
Superconductive ring burst generator
Portable atomic battery or generator
How did Radar come to be developed into a radio frequency weapon against alien spacecraft?
The 1947 Roswell crash of an alien spacecraft was said to be caused by the craft flying in front of an air base radar unit and getting its avionics fried. It flew on at a low altitude, but it could no longer be controlled. Eventually it impacted into a hillside many miles away. Years later, somebody figured out what happened to cause the crash. Then the military learned in a tragic way that Radar could be a deadly weapon.
Because of a tragedy that cost the lives of about 140 US Navy personnel, the effectiveness of Radar disruption of electronic systems on aircraft was discovered. On July 19, 1967, the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal was stationed off the coast of Viet Nam. The stern area of the flight deck was covered with aircraft being armed with missiles and bombs for an air raid against North Viet Nam.
The USS Forrestal was equipped with a new powerful Radar system. The Radar system was activated when the planes were loaded and nearly ready to go. The strong Radar signals penetrated into and overloaded the electronic fire control system for the Shrike missiles on two F-4 fighters.
The two fire control systems fired the missiles on deck, where they detonated starting fires on the waiting aircraft. The raging fires destroyed many aircraft, causing high explosive 1000-pound bombs to detonate, doing further damage and killing dozens of sailors fighting the fires. One of the F-4 pilots who barely escaped with his life, went on to become a US Senator and run for president, Senator John McCain. But the Navy learned the lesson that Radar will overload sensitive aircraft electronic systems, destroying or rendering them temporarily useless.
Those findings of the use of Radar as a weapon were kept classified until recently, allowing the military to secretly develop Radar into a weapons system. The military has been even able to down alien spacecraft on several occasions using both mobile Radar units, and very high power Distant Early Warning Radar when UFOs would get too close to it. (Those two types were not even designed as Radar weapons!) ..
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/ufowarning/ufowarning16.htm
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/ufowarning/ufowarning16.htm
25 November 2017 03:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
more folk lore...
"official document to reference Area 51 and the CIA’s account of the U-2 and UFOs is not entirely accurate.
Area-51-map
Area 51 map from the CIA’s report on overhead reconnaissance. (Credit: CIA)
The document is a CIA report on overhead reconnaissance, and details the history of the development of the U-2 and OXCART spy planes from 1954 to 1974, both of which were developed and tested at the super secret Area 51 airstrip on the Nevada Test and Training Range, adjacent to Nellis Air Force Base.
Until now, it has been ironic that Area 51 has been both the most secretive U.S. Air Force base, while at the same time being perhaps the most well-known. KLAS TV news in Las Vegas has been on the forefront of Area 51 research. They began investigating the secret base and reporting on its activities via information they had gathered from engineers who worked on the base in the early 1980s. However, it wasn’t until 1989 when KLAS reporter George Knapp interviewed a man claiming to have worked on back engineered extraterrestrial space craft at Area 51 that the base began to pique the interest of the public at large.
Since then it has been referenced in countless books, movies,video games and TV shows. The entire time, the US government did not acknowledge its existence. Until now, some people have doubted it existed at all.
John Greenewald, a specialist in FOIA requests, has amassed one of the largest collections of declassified government documents on his @BlackVault.com website. He says he thinks the hype over the newly released CIA document is a little over blown. He says he actually has in his records two other documents that reference Area 51. One of those he obtained with a FOIA request on Area 51 to the Department of Energy.
The document states: “The 38,400-acre land area once known as ‘Area 51’ was withdrawn from public use by the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission, a predecessor to the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE), more than 35 years ago under Public Land Order 1662 (filed June 25, 1958).”
His other document was obtained by a FOIA to the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) regarding Area 51. It is a document from 1962 with the subject, “Aerial Observation of Area 51.” The document recommends that they fly over Area 51 with a U-2 spy plane in order to assess what the soviets may see if they should be able to take pictures with the Sputnik 13 satellite."
http://www.openminds.tv/cia-gets-ufos-wrong-in-area-51-document-1113/23349
// amazes me still that of what has been..
"official document to reference Area 51 and the CIA’s account of the U-2 and UFOs is not entirely accurate.
Area-51-map
Area 51 map from the CIA’s report on overhead reconnaissance. (Credit: CIA)
The document is a CIA report on overhead reconnaissance, and details the history of the development of the U-2 and OXCART spy planes from 1954 to 1974, both of which were developed and tested at the super secret Area 51 airstrip on the Nevada Test and Training Range, adjacent to Nellis Air Force Base.
Until now, it has been ironic that Area 51 has been both the most secretive U.S. Air Force base, while at the same time being perhaps the most well-known. KLAS TV news in Las Vegas has been on the forefront of Area 51 research. They began investigating the secret base and reporting on its activities via information they had gathered from engineers who worked on the base in the early 1980s. However, it wasn’t until 1989 when KLAS reporter George Knapp interviewed a man claiming to have worked on back engineered extraterrestrial space craft at Area 51 that the base began to pique the interest of the public at large.
Since then it has been referenced in countless books, movies,video games and TV shows. The entire time, the US government did not acknowledge its existence. Until now, some people have doubted it existed at all.
John Greenewald, a specialist in FOIA requests, has amassed one of the largest collections of declassified government documents on his @BlackVault.com website. He says he thinks the hype over the newly released CIA document is a little over blown. He says he actually has in his records two other documents that reference Area 51. One of those he obtained with a FOIA request on Area 51 to the Department of Energy.
The document states: “The 38,400-acre land area once known as ‘Area 51’ was withdrawn from public use by the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission, a predecessor to the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE), more than 35 years ago under Public Land Order 1662 (filed June 25, 1958).”
His other document was obtained by a FOIA to the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) regarding Area 51. It is a document from 1962 with the subject, “Aerial Observation of Area 51.” The document recommends that they fly over Area 51 with a U-2 spy plane in order to assess what the soviets may see if they should be able to take pictures with the Sputnik 13 satellite."
http://www.openminds.tv/cia-gets-ufos-wrong-in-area-51-document-1113/23349
// amazes me still that of what has been..
http://blackvault.com/
25 November 2017 03:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Same Time, Next Year "Are you are a grad student interested in entrepreneurship and working hands on with the energy industry? Then Hacking for Energy is the course for you. Hacking for Energy challenges students to develop and test solutions to critical problems facing the energy industry using the Lean Startup methodology. Students apply to the class after independently forming interdisciplinary teams of 4, proposing a solution for a problem submitted by the energy industry. If accepted, the student teams will use the course to test and build their solution by getting out of the classroom, talking to customers, and interacting with industry professionals. Students must apply by November 21st to participate in the Spring 2017 semester."
http://ieor.columbia.edu/hacking-energy
http://ieor.columbia.edu/files/seasieor/Hacking_for_Energy_Poster_Spring_2017.pdf
Synkretism - together at the same time
http://ieor.columbia.edu/hacking-energy
http://ieor.columbia.edu/files/seasieor/Hacking_for_Energy_Poster_Spring_2017.pdf
Synkretism - together at the same time
http://ieor.columbia.edu/hacking-energy
25 November 2017 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
to bad the alienizers knowing much did not figure out to inform, when building us a electric grid, the security issue
"security was not implemented as it was on that time not an issue"
"security was not implemented as it was on that time not an issue"
25 November 2017 03:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" electric grid infrastructure “was not designed to be secured because security was not a concern when that infrastructure was implemented."
A small bit of philosophy as well:
"Therefore an “Office for Exopolitics” should be set up within the Department of State in the same way in which the “Office for Civil Rights” is located within the Department of Education. The main advantage here is that an “Office of Exopolitics” could be expected to harmonize with ongoing diplomatic relations at an international level. Main disadvantage is that other government departments and agencies could argue that key areas of relations with extraterrestrial visitors fall under their responsibilities, e.g., Department of Defense, Department of Energy, NASA, etc. "
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"Threats to the power grid
Threats to the power grid come in many flavors besides cyberattacks as was pointed out when the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology held an oversight hearing to examine vulnerabilities of America’s power supply; it looked at threats to the national electric grid including physical threats, space weather, SCADA, EMP attacks and cybersecurity.
Daniel Baker, professor of planetary and space physics at the University of Colorado Boulder, testified that current technology only gives us a 45-minute heads-up before a solar flare. Electromagnetic energy released in a flare “could cause a disturbance resulting in widespread power blackouts that would disable everything that uses electricity.” He said, “The total economic impact of such an event has been estimate to exceed $2 trillion.”
Of course the Committee mentioned (pdf) cybersecurity. “As the electric grid continues to be modernized and become more interconnected, the threat of a potential cybersecurity breach significantly increases. While there has been no reported cyberattack that has resulted in widespread loss of power, there have been many attempted attacks.” In 2014, the NSA “had tracked intrusions into [industrial control] systems by entities with the technical capability ‘to take down control systems that operate U.S. power grids, water systems and other critical infrastructure’.”
Nadya Bartol, vice president of industry affairs and cybersecurity strategist for the Utilities Telecom Council, testified that legacy electric grid infrastructure “was not designed to be secured because security was not a concern when that infrastructure was implemented.”"
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specially the section :
"difference between creating a new government Office versus a new Department. There are a variety of bureaucratic models that could be used in creating a government entity to formally conduct exopolitics – relations with extraterrestrial visitors. Here are the three that stand out as the most obvious choices. .. "
// Seems they think on it a lot
// read on
A second bureaucratic model would be to set up an “Exopolitics Office” that directly reports to the US President such as in the case of “The Office of Science and Technology Policy” whose mandate is:
advises the president on the effects of science and technology on domestic and international affairs. It also develops, coordinates, and implements science and technology policies and budgets.
The main advantage here is that the US President, for the first time since Presidents Truman and Eisenhower would be directly involved in setting policy on extraterrestrial visitors. Main disadvantage is that relations with extraterrestrial visitors is too important an issue to add to an already overburdened President whose responsibilities are diverted to many government priorities.
A third bureaucratic model would be to create a Department or Agency for Exopolitics that would be a fully independent entity with its own bureaucracy and headed by a Secretary or Director that would be given Cabinet status within the Obama administration. This model has many advantages since it could coordinate policies on a wide range of issues, diplomatic relations, defense, science and technology, energy, health, etc. that involve extraterrestrial life and technology. The main disadvantage is that other more established government departments might compete with and undermine the new Exopolitics Department/Agency in terms of policy and influence over extraterrestrial affairs.
There is no precedent for setting up a Department or Office of Exopolitics in the world. While the United Nations passed Decision 33/426 in 1978 authorizing the creation of a UN Agency to monitor reports of UFOs and extraterrestrial life, the decision was never implemented by member states. The only bureaucratic history that is known with any degree of reliability is that the Majestic 12 committee that originally constituted a de facto Office of Exopolitics was initially set up as a covert program within the US National Security Council system. Here is a description of MJ-12’s reconstitution during the Eisenhower administration:
The most significant institutional reorganization as far as political management of the ET presence was concerned was expanding and formalizing MJ-12 as an autonomous institution fully authorized by executive order to deliberate upon and make policy decisions on the ET presence. MJ-12 became formally embedded in the Covert Operations Committee of the National Security Council – Committee 5412, named after National Security Council Edict 5412. MJ-12’s earlier existence as an ad hoc committee appointed by executive authority, was now transformed into a permanent sub-committee institutionally embedded within the most secret of all the National Security Council’s committees. Evidence from whistleblower testimonies suggest that Truman’s ad hoc committee, MJ-12, was reorganized so as to now comprise two layers. The outermost layer was a group of up to 40 individuals who would form a Study Group (hence the names PI-40 and Special Studies Group also attributed to MJ-12) whose function was to provide specialized studies and policy recommendations concerning ET issues for a smaller decision making group (MJ-12) that would actually make official policy recommendations for implementation after gaining executive approval by Eisenhower.
Initially hidden within the National Security Council system, the MJ-12/Office of Exopolitics has morphed over time into a quasi-governmental entity with significant corporate involvement, and a distinct international element.
According to Dr James’ undisclosed sources:
A small bit of philosophy as well:
"Therefore an “Office for Exopolitics” should be set up within the Department of State in the same way in which the “Office for Civil Rights” is located within the Department of Education. The main advantage here is that an “Office of Exopolitics” could be expected to harmonize with ongoing diplomatic relations at an international level. Main disadvantage is that other government departments and agencies could argue that key areas of relations with extraterrestrial visitors fall under their responsibilities, e.g., Department of Defense, Department of Energy, NASA, etc. "
---
"Threats to the power grid
Threats to the power grid come in many flavors besides cyberattacks as was pointed out when the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology held an oversight hearing to examine vulnerabilities of America’s power supply; it looked at threats to the national electric grid including physical threats, space weather, SCADA, EMP attacks and cybersecurity.
Daniel Baker, professor of planetary and space physics at the University of Colorado Boulder, testified that current technology only gives us a 45-minute heads-up before a solar flare. Electromagnetic energy released in a flare “could cause a disturbance resulting in widespread power blackouts that would disable everything that uses electricity.” He said, “The total economic impact of such an event has been estimate to exceed $2 trillion.”
Of course the Committee mentioned (pdf) cybersecurity. “As the electric grid continues to be modernized and become more interconnected, the threat of a potential cybersecurity breach significantly increases. While there has been no reported cyberattack that has resulted in widespread loss of power, there have been many attempted attacks.” In 2014, the NSA “had tracked intrusions into [industrial control] systems by entities with the technical capability ‘to take down control systems that operate U.S. power grids, water systems and other critical infrastructure’.”
Nadya Bartol, vice president of industry affairs and cybersecurity strategist for the Utilities Telecom Council, testified that legacy electric grid infrastructure “was not designed to be secured because security was not a concern when that infrastructure was implemented.”"
---
specially the section :
"difference between creating a new government Office versus a new Department. There are a variety of bureaucratic models that could be used in creating a government entity to formally conduct exopolitics – relations with extraterrestrial visitors. Here are the three that stand out as the most obvious choices. .. "
// Seems they think on it a lot
// read on
A second bureaucratic model would be to set up an “Exopolitics Office” that directly reports to the US President such as in the case of “The Office of Science and Technology Policy” whose mandate is:
advises the president on the effects of science and technology on domestic and international affairs. It also develops, coordinates, and implements science and technology policies and budgets.
The main advantage here is that the US President, for the first time since Presidents Truman and Eisenhower would be directly involved in setting policy on extraterrestrial visitors. Main disadvantage is that relations with extraterrestrial visitors is too important an issue to add to an already overburdened President whose responsibilities are diverted to many government priorities.
A third bureaucratic model would be to create a Department or Agency for Exopolitics that would be a fully independent entity with its own bureaucracy and headed by a Secretary or Director that would be given Cabinet status within the Obama administration. This model has many advantages since it could coordinate policies on a wide range of issues, diplomatic relations, defense, science and technology, energy, health, etc. that involve extraterrestrial life and technology. The main disadvantage is that other more established government departments might compete with and undermine the new Exopolitics Department/Agency in terms of policy and influence over extraterrestrial affairs.
There is no precedent for setting up a Department or Office of Exopolitics in the world. While the United Nations passed Decision 33/426 in 1978 authorizing the creation of a UN Agency to monitor reports of UFOs and extraterrestrial life, the decision was never implemented by member states. The only bureaucratic history that is known with any degree of reliability is that the Majestic 12 committee that originally constituted a de facto Office of Exopolitics was initially set up as a covert program within the US National Security Council system. Here is a description of MJ-12’s reconstitution during the Eisenhower administration:
The most significant institutional reorganization as far as political management of the ET presence was concerned was expanding and formalizing MJ-12 as an autonomous institution fully authorized by executive order to deliberate upon and make policy decisions on the ET presence. MJ-12 became formally embedded in the Covert Operations Committee of the National Security Council – Committee 5412, named after National Security Council Edict 5412. MJ-12’s earlier existence as an ad hoc committee appointed by executive authority, was now transformed into a permanent sub-committee institutionally embedded within the most secret of all the National Security Council’s committees. Evidence from whistleblower testimonies suggest that Truman’s ad hoc committee, MJ-12, was reorganized so as to now comprise two layers. The outermost layer was a group of up to 40 individuals who would form a Study Group (hence the names PI-40 and Special Studies Group also attributed to MJ-12) whose function was to provide specialized studies and policy recommendations concerning ET issues for a smaller decision making group (MJ-12) that would actually make official policy recommendations for implementation after gaining executive approval by Eisenhower.
Initially hidden within the National Security Council system, the MJ-12/Office of Exopolitics has morphed over time into a quasi-governmental entity with significant corporate involvement, and a distinct international element.
According to Dr James’ undisclosed sources:
25 November 2017 03:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
More serious end note for people tied to energy :
" The DOE was attacked 1,131 times.
There were 159 successful cyber intrusions.
53 of the 159 successful compromises “were ‘root compromises,’ meaning perpetrators gained administrative privileges to Energy Department computer systems.” It is unclear if those DOE computers were office PCs, or if the root compromises were on computers managing critical infrastructure. The DOE is not known for having good operational security habits; after the Inspector General audited the Energy Department last year, the report said 41 DOE servers and 14 workstations “were configured with default or easily guessed passwords.”
90 of the 159 successful hacks “were connected to the DOE's Office of Science, which directs scientific research and is responsible for 10 of the nation's federal energy laboratories.”
Over the same 4-year period, “the National Nuclear Security Administration, a semi-autonomous agency within the Energy Department responsible for managing and securing the nation's nuclear weapons stockpile, experienced 19 successful attacks.”
“The potential for an adversary to disrupt, shut down (power systems), or worse … is real here,” stated Scott White, Drexel University Professor of Homeland Security and Security Management and Director of the Computing Security and Technology. “It's absolutely real.”
NSA Chief Admiral Michael Rogers, head of US Cyber Command, said nation states devote a lot of time trying to gain access to the US power grid and other critical infrastructure because those nation states want to have “options and capabilities.”
In a letter (pdf) to the Government Accountability Office, Rep. Don Beyer cited a USA Today investigative report that found 348 physical attacks and 14 cyberattacks had caused power outages between 2011 and 2014. USA Today previously reported that attacks on the power grid happened about once every four days. “More often than once a week, the physical and computerized security mechanisms intended to protect Americans from widespread power outages are affected by attacks, with less severe cyberattacks happening even more often.” Beyer asked the Government Accountability Office to review federal programs aimed at making the grid more resilient.
Although “the electric grid is one of the nation's 16 critical infrastructures,” it “is considered a ‘unique’ critical infrastructure because so many of the other sectors, such as emergency services, communications, water and wastewater systems, financial services, and transportation systems are dependent on uninterrupted access to electricity to operate effectively.” Rep. Beyer added, “When the electric grid goes down, all the other services it enables stop functioning.”
https://www.computerworld.com/article/2983749/cybercrime-hacking/attackers-hacked-department-of-energy-159-times-in-4-years.html
https://hacked.com/u-s-department-energy-successfully-hacked-159-times-4-years
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https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/database-hacking-spree-on-us-army-nasa-and-others-cost-gov-millions/
"You have no idea how much we can f**k with the US," alleged hacker says.
Dan Goodin Realtor with Exp Realty
"He would then exploit them to inject powerful SQL commands into a site's backend database. He exploited similar types of vulnerabilities in sites that used ColdFusion, the Web application software whose full source code was recently found on a server operated by hackers. The ColdFusion security flaw, which has since been corrected, allowed Love to gain administrator-level access to computer servers without proper login credentials, a separate criminal complaint filed in a Virginia federal court alleged. After breaching the websites, Love allegedly planted backdoor code on the servers that gave him persistent access to the networks so he could return at a later date and steal confidential data."
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"Love was charged with one count of accessing a US department or agency computer without authorization and one count of conspiracy to do the same "
Oh.. Love..
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" The DOE was attacked 1,131 times.
There were 159 successful cyber intrusions.
53 of the 159 successful compromises “were ‘root compromises,’ meaning perpetrators gained administrative privileges to Energy Department computer systems.” It is unclear if those DOE computers were office PCs, or if the root compromises were on computers managing critical infrastructure. The DOE is not known for having good operational security habits; after the Inspector General audited the Energy Department last year, the report said 41 DOE servers and 14 workstations “were configured with default or easily guessed passwords.”
90 of the 159 successful hacks “were connected to the DOE's Office of Science, which directs scientific research and is responsible for 10 of the nation's federal energy laboratories.”
Over the same 4-year period, “the National Nuclear Security Administration, a semi-autonomous agency within the Energy Department responsible for managing and securing the nation's nuclear weapons stockpile, experienced 19 successful attacks.”
“The potential for an adversary to disrupt, shut down (power systems), or worse … is real here,” stated Scott White, Drexel University Professor of Homeland Security and Security Management and Director of the Computing Security and Technology. “It's absolutely real.”
NSA Chief Admiral Michael Rogers, head of US Cyber Command, said nation states devote a lot of time trying to gain access to the US power grid and other critical infrastructure because those nation states want to have “options and capabilities.”
In a letter (pdf) to the Government Accountability Office, Rep. Don Beyer cited a USA Today investigative report that found 348 physical attacks and 14 cyberattacks had caused power outages between 2011 and 2014. USA Today previously reported that attacks on the power grid happened about once every four days. “More often than once a week, the physical and computerized security mechanisms intended to protect Americans from widespread power outages are affected by attacks, with less severe cyberattacks happening even more often.” Beyer asked the Government Accountability Office to review federal programs aimed at making the grid more resilient.
Although “the electric grid is one of the nation's 16 critical infrastructures,” it “is considered a ‘unique’ critical infrastructure because so many of the other sectors, such as emergency services, communications, water and wastewater systems, financial services, and transportation systems are dependent on uninterrupted access to electricity to operate effectively.” Rep. Beyer added, “When the electric grid goes down, all the other services it enables stop functioning.”
https://www.computerworld.com/article/2983749/cybercrime-hacking/attackers-hacked-department-of-energy-159-times-in-4-years.html
https://hacked.com/u-s-department-energy-successfully-hacked-159-times-4-years
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https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/database-hacking-spree-on-us-army-nasa-and-others-cost-gov-millions/
"You have no idea how much we can f**k with the US," alleged hacker says.
Dan Goodin Realtor with Exp Realty
"He would then exploit them to inject powerful SQL commands into a site's backend database. He exploited similar types of vulnerabilities in sites that used ColdFusion, the Web application software whose full source code was recently found on a server operated by hackers. The ColdFusion security flaw, which has since been corrected, allowed Love to gain administrator-level access to computer servers without proper login credentials, a separate criminal complaint filed in a Virginia federal court alleged. After breaching the websites, Love allegedly planted backdoor code on the servers that gave him persistent access to the networks so he could return at a later date and steal confidential data."
--
"Love was charged with one count of accessing a US department or agency computer without authorization and one count of conspiracy to do the same "
Oh.. Love..
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https://www.computerworld.com/article/2983749/cybercrime-hacking/attackers-hacked-department-of-energy-159-times-in-4-years.html
25 November 2017 03:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
More from Dep. of energy:
"Whenever we use our smartphones to check social media, we face loads of bacteria on the devices — even more than on toilet seats, according to a University of Arizona study. Those bacteria may have their own form of social network that, like Facebook, allows the single-cell creatures to attract and repel one another.
This insight stems from new research by U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) scientists who have determined the molecular structures of a highly specialized set of proteins. These proteins are used by a strain of E. colibacteria to communicate and defend their turf.
“We are basically learning how the bacteria interact and communicate.” - Andrzej Joachimiak, Argonne Distinguished Scientist in the laboratory’s Biosciences Division"
https://www.eurekalert.org/features/doe/2017-10/dnl-htb102517.php
"“There are really only a few molecules of the toxin that get into the neighboring cell,” said Karolina Michalska, a protein crystallographer at Argonne and co-lead author of the paper. “It’s hard to estimate the real extent of the cell damage. That’s why we were thinking it’s not meant to kill, but rather to control and communicate.”"
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The Argonne team collected data on the protein structures using the Structural Biology Center’s beamline at the Advanced Photon Source (APS), a Department of Energy Office of Science User Facility. The APS is a third-generation light source, providing extremely bright X-rays that allow researchers to delve into the arrays of molecules within materials. Using this tool, researchers can characterize, or identify, biological proteins and inspect chemical processes at the nanoscale (one billionth of a meter).
Argonne’s research team also tapped the laboratory’s Advanced Protein Characterization Facility, which offers the nation’s most advanced technologies for studying new classes of proteins and protein complexes.
Other authors were Argonne’s Lucy Stols, a biochemical specialist; William Eschenfeldt, a molecular biologist; and Gyorgy Babnigg, a bioinformatician and molecular biologist.
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Funding was provided by the National Institutes of Health National Institute of General Medical Sciences and by the DOE’s Office of Science.
"Whenever we use our smartphones to check social media, we face loads of bacteria on the devices — even more than on toilet seats, according to a University of Arizona study. Those bacteria may have their own form of social network that, like Facebook, allows the single-cell creatures to attract and repel one another.
This insight stems from new research by U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) scientists who have determined the molecular structures of a highly specialized set of proteins. These proteins are used by a strain of E. colibacteria to communicate and defend their turf.
“We are basically learning how the bacteria interact and communicate.” - Andrzej Joachimiak, Argonne Distinguished Scientist in the laboratory’s Biosciences Division"
https://www.eurekalert.org/features/doe/2017-10/dnl-htb102517.php
"“There are really only a few molecules of the toxin that get into the neighboring cell,” said Karolina Michalska, a protein crystallographer at Argonne and co-lead author of the paper. “It’s hard to estimate the real extent of the cell damage. That’s why we were thinking it’s not meant to kill, but rather to control and communicate.”"
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The Argonne team collected data on the protein structures using the Structural Biology Center’s beamline at the Advanced Photon Source (APS), a Department of Energy Office of Science User Facility. The APS is a third-generation light source, providing extremely bright X-rays that allow researchers to delve into the arrays of molecules within materials. Using this tool, researchers can characterize, or identify, biological proteins and inspect chemical processes at the nanoscale (one billionth of a meter).
Argonne’s research team also tapped the laboratory’s Advanced Protein Characterization Facility, which offers the nation’s most advanced technologies for studying new classes of proteins and protein complexes.
Other authors were Argonne’s Lucy Stols, a biochemical specialist; William Eschenfeldt, a molecular biologist; and Gyorgy Babnigg, a bioinformatician and molecular biologist.
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Funding was provided by the National Institutes of Health National Institute of General Medical Sciences and by the DOE’s Office of Science.
https://www.eurekalert.org/features/doe/2017-10/dnl-htb102517.php
25 November 2017 03:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And if not enought from one pentagram state, add some extra Asian's to a mix:
"American intelligence officials rank North Korea behind Russia, China and Iran among U.S. adversaries in ability to inflict damage via cyberattacks"
https://www.cyberscoop.com/north-korea-ics-hacking-dhs-ics-cert/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-korea/experts-north-korea-targeted-u-s-electric-power-companies-n808996
"Analysts stressed that this incident should not be categorized as a destructive or disruptive attack due to the lack of evidence that proves hackers had, or necessarily planned, to immediately damage hardware. They say the evidence instead sheds light on a broader issue: that of escalating geopolitical tension between the U.S., Iran, Russia and North Korea, which is simultaneously playing out in cyberspace as well as in the real world.
Nation-state backed hackers, believed to be tied to Russia and Iran, have been known to break into the corporate business networks of energy companies so that they can move laterally through IT systems to eventually impact industrial equipment. North Korea, however, is not widely known to engage in this practice or have the capability to execute a blackout."
"American intelligence officials rank North Korea behind Russia, China and Iran among U.S. adversaries in ability to inflict damage via cyberattacks"
https://www.cyberscoop.com/north-korea-ics-hacking-dhs-ics-cert/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-korea/experts-north-korea-targeted-u-s-electric-power-companies-n808996
"Analysts stressed that this incident should not be categorized as a destructive or disruptive attack due to the lack of evidence that proves hackers had, or necessarily planned, to immediately damage hardware. They say the evidence instead sheds light on a broader issue: that of escalating geopolitical tension between the U.S., Iran, Russia and North Korea, which is simultaneously playing out in cyberspace as well as in the real world.
Nation-state backed hackers, believed to be tied to Russia and Iran, have been known to break into the corporate business networks of energy companies so that they can move laterally through IT systems to eventually impact industrial equipment. North Korea, however, is not widely known to engage in this practice or have the capability to execute a blackout."
https://www.cyberscoop.com/north-korea-ics-hacking-dhs-ics-cert/
25 November 2017 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
when it gets to hot:
sPONSORED BY Department of Energy : “These experiments with water are the first of their kind, allowing us to witness a fundamental disorder-to-order transition in one of the most abundant molecules in the universe,” said study lead author Arianna Gleason, a postdoctoral fellow at Los Alamos National Laboratory and a visiting scientist in the Extreme Environments Laboratory of Stanford’s School of Earth, Energy & Environmental Sciences. "
"“There have been a tremendous number of studies on ice because everyone wants to understand its behavior,” said study senior author Wendy Mao, an associate professor of geological sciences and a Stanford Institute for Materials and Energy Sciences (SIMES) principal investigator. “What our new study demonstrates, and which hasn’t been done before, is the ability to see the ice structure form in real time.”"
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Delving into extraterrestrial ice types, including ice VII, will help scientists model such remote environments as comet impacts, the internal structures of potentially life-supporting, water-filled moons like Jupiter’s Europa, and the dynamics of jumbo, rocky, oceanic exoplanets called super-Earths.
“Any icy satellite or planetary interior is intimately connected to the object’s surface,” Gleason said. “Learning about these icy interiors will help us understand how the worlds in our solar system formed and how at least one of them, so far as we know, came to have all the necessary characteristics for life.”
Other co-authors on the study include Cindy Bolme of Los Alamos National Laboratory; Eric Galtier, Hae Ja Lee and Eduardo Granados of the SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory; Dan Dolan, Chris Seagle and Tom Ao of Sandia National Laboratories; and Suzanne Ali, Amy Lazicki, Damian Swift and Peter Celliers of Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.
Funding was provided by the National Science Foundation, the Los Alamos National Laboratory, the U.S. Department of Energy Office of Science, Fusion Energy Science and the SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory.
https://earth.stanford.edu/news/alien-ice-earth
sPONSORED BY Department of Energy : “These experiments with water are the first of their kind, allowing us to witness a fundamental disorder-to-order transition in one of the most abundant molecules in the universe,” said study lead author Arianna Gleason, a postdoctoral fellow at Los Alamos National Laboratory and a visiting scientist in the Extreme Environments Laboratory of Stanford’s School of Earth, Energy & Environmental Sciences. "
"“There have been a tremendous number of studies on ice because everyone wants to understand its behavior,” said study senior author Wendy Mao, an associate professor of geological sciences and a Stanford Institute for Materials and Energy Sciences (SIMES) principal investigator. “What our new study demonstrates, and which hasn’t been done before, is the ability to see the ice structure form in real time.”"
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Delving into extraterrestrial ice types, including ice VII, will help scientists model such remote environments as comet impacts, the internal structures of potentially life-supporting, water-filled moons like Jupiter’s Europa, and the dynamics of jumbo, rocky, oceanic exoplanets called super-Earths.
“Any icy satellite or planetary interior is intimately connected to the object’s surface,” Gleason said. “Learning about these icy interiors will help us understand how the worlds in our solar system formed and how at least one of them, so far as we know, came to have all the necessary characteristics for life.”
Other co-authors on the study include Cindy Bolme of Los Alamos National Laboratory; Eric Galtier, Hae Ja Lee and Eduardo Granados of the SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory; Dan Dolan, Chris Seagle and Tom Ao of Sandia National Laboratories; and Suzanne Ali, Amy Lazicki, Damian Swift and Peter Celliers of Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.
Funding was provided by the National Science Foundation, the Los Alamos National Laboratory, the U.S. Department of Energy Office of Science, Fusion Energy Science and the SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory.
https://earth.stanford.edu/news/alien-ice-earth
https://earth.stanford.edu/news/alien-ice-earth
25 November 2017 02:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but back to track:
"Hackers working for a foreign government recently breached at least a dozen US power plants, including the Wolf Creek nuclear facility in Kansas, according to current and former US officials, sparking concerns the attackers were searching for vulnerabilities in the electrical grid.
The rivals could be positioning themselves to eventually disrupt the nation’s power supply, warned the officials, who noted that a general alert was distributed to utilities a week ago. Adding to those concerns, hackers recently infiltrated an unidentified company that makes control systems for equipment used in the power industry, an attack that officials believe may be related.
The chief suspect is Russia, according to three people familiar with the continuing effort to eject the hackers from the computer networks. One of those networks belongs to an ageing nuclear generating facility known as Wolf Creek -- owned by Westar Energy Inc, Great Plains Energy Inc, and Kansas Electric Power Cooperative Inc -- on a lake shore near Burlington, Kansas.
The possibility of a Russia connection is particularly worrying, former and current official s say, because Russian hackers have previously taken down parts of the electrical grid in Ukraine and appear to be testing increasingly advanced tools to disrupt power supplies.
The hacks come as international tensions have flared over US intelligence agencies’ conclusion that Russia tried to influence the 2016 presidential election. The US, which has several continuing investigations into Russia’s activities, is known to possess digital weapons capable of disrupting the electricity grids of rival nations.
“We don’t pay attention to such anonymous fakes,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said, in response to a request to comment on alleged Russian involvement.
It was unclear whether President Donald Trump was planning to address the cyber attacks at his meeting on Friday with Russian President Vladimir Putin. In an earlier speech in Warsaw, Trump called out Russia’s “destabilising activities” and urged the country to join “the community of responsible nations.”
The Department of Homeland Security and Federal Bureau of Investigation said they are aware of a potential intrusion in the energy sector. The alert issued to utilities cited activities by hackers since May."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world-0/hacking-us-power-plans-wolf-creek-sabotage-energy-fbi-power-plant-electricity-grid-a7828261.html
"Hackers working for a foreign government recently breached at least a dozen US power plants, including the Wolf Creek nuclear facility in Kansas, according to current and former US officials, sparking concerns the attackers were searching for vulnerabilities in the electrical grid.
The rivals could be positioning themselves to eventually disrupt the nation’s power supply, warned the officials, who noted that a general alert was distributed to utilities a week ago. Adding to those concerns, hackers recently infiltrated an unidentified company that makes control systems for equipment used in the power industry, an attack that officials believe may be related.
The chief suspect is Russia, according to three people familiar with the continuing effort to eject the hackers from the computer networks. One of those networks belongs to an ageing nuclear generating facility known as Wolf Creek -- owned by Westar Energy Inc, Great Plains Energy Inc, and Kansas Electric Power Cooperative Inc -- on a lake shore near Burlington, Kansas.
The possibility of a Russia connection is particularly worrying, former and current official s say, because Russian hackers have previously taken down parts of the electrical grid in Ukraine and appear to be testing increasingly advanced tools to disrupt power supplies.
The hacks come as international tensions have flared over US intelligence agencies’ conclusion that Russia tried to influence the 2016 presidential election. The US, which has several continuing investigations into Russia’s activities, is known to possess digital weapons capable of disrupting the electricity grids of rival nations.
“We don’t pay attention to such anonymous fakes,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said, in response to a request to comment on alleged Russian involvement.
It was unclear whether President Donald Trump was planning to address the cyber attacks at his meeting on Friday with Russian President Vladimir Putin. In an earlier speech in Warsaw, Trump called out Russia’s “destabilising activities” and urged the country to join “the community of responsible nations.”
The Department of Homeland Security and Federal Bureau of Investigation said they are aware of a potential intrusion in the energy sector. The alert issued to utilities cited activities by hackers since May."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world-0/hacking-us-power-plans-wolf-creek-sabotage-energy-fbi-power-plant-electricity-grid-a7828261.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world-0/hacking-us-power-plans-wolf-creek-sabotage-energy-fbi-power-plant-electricity-grid-a7828261.html
25 November 2017 02:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"Area 51 shares a border with the Yucca Flat region of the Nevada Test Site,
Nevada Test Site, the location of 739 of the 928 nuclear tests conducted by the United States Department of Energy at NTS"
https://web.archive.org/web/20100615231826/http://www.nv.doe.gov/library/publications/historical/DOENV_209_REV15.pdf
Nevada Test Site, the location of 739 of the 928 nuclear tests conducted by the United States Department of Energy at NTS"
https://web.archive.org/web/20100615231826/http://www.nv.doe.gov/library/publications/historical/DOENV_209_REV15.pdf
25 November 2017 02:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
OKey, not so fast,
Issue was worth to join as one event but actually totally different :
"On Wednesday, Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden sent letters to the FBI and the DOE requesting more information about Bradford's claim that he was hacked.
In June, following his appointment to the Department of Energy, The Washington Post reported provocative comments Bradford made on Twitter -- including calling Obama a Kenyan and saying that the World War II-era internment of Japanese-Americans was necessary. Bradford apologized for the comments at the time in a statement to the Post, calling them "inexcusable."
In 2015, Bradford resigned as a professor at West Point after penning an academic paper that argued the US military should target Islamic holy sites as part of the war on terror."
Issue was worth to join as one event but actually totally different :
"On Wednesday, Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden sent letters to the FBI and the DOE requesting more information about Bradford's claim that he was hacked.
In June, following his appointment to the Department of Energy, The Washington Post reported provocative comments Bradford made on Twitter -- including calling Obama a Kenyan and saying that the World War II-era internment of Japanese-Americans was necessary. Bradford apologized for the comments at the time in a statement to the Post, calling them "inexcusable."
In 2015, Bradford resigned as a professor at West Point after penning an academic paper that argued the US military should target Islamic holy sites as part of the war on terror."
25 November 2017 02:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Heeey... did You say anything about Russia ==??
Get a job! //Great again comment was great one by Willliam:
"William C. Bradford, a Trump administration appointee who heads the Energy Department's Office of Indian Energy, resigned Thursday after claiming this week inflammatory comments that appeared to have been made by him online were the result of hacking.
"William Bradford tendered his resignation this afternoon and is no longer with the Department of Energy," said DOE spokesperson Shaylyn Hynes.
Bradford told CNN's KFile in a statement on Friday, "I resigned because I reached the conclusion over the previous four months that the best way to serve the President, the USA, and Indian Country would be from a position beyond the constraints I experienced. I look forward to helping make America great again in another role.""
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/31/politics/kfile-bradford-resigns/index.html
Get a job! //Great again comment was great one by Willliam:
"William C. Bradford, a Trump administration appointee who heads the Energy Department's Office of Indian Energy, resigned Thursday after claiming this week inflammatory comments that appeared to have been made by him online were the result of hacking.
"William Bradford tendered his resignation this afternoon and is no longer with the Department of Energy," said DOE spokesperson Shaylyn Hynes.
Bradford told CNN's KFile in a statement on Friday, "I resigned because I reached the conclusion over the previous four months that the best way to serve the President, the USA, and Indian Country would be from a position beyond the constraints I experienced. I look forward to helping make America great again in another role.""
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/31/politics/kfile-bradford-resigns/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/31/politics/kfile-bradford-resigns/index.html
25 November 2017 02:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"..Energy Secretary Rick Perry speaks at the White House in Washington, June 27, 2017. The attacks were confirmed when the U.S. Department of Energy said it was helping the firms defend against the intrusions.
Hackers who penetrated the business networks of U.S. energy and nuclear companies in recent weeks were working for the Russian government according to a report in a prominent..."
https://www.voanews.com/a/report-russia-behind-hacking-of-us-energy-nuclear-companies/3934527.html
Hackers who penetrated the business networks of U.S. energy and nuclear companies in recent weeks were working for the Russian government according to a report in a prominent..."
https://www.voanews.com/a/report-russia-behind-hacking-of-us-energy-nuclear-companies/3934527.html
https://www.voanews.com/a/report-russia-behind-hacking-of-us-energy-nuclear-companies/3934527.html
25 November 2017 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Uudiseid ka siis:
// just testing the land, preparing the issue..and injecting mostly..//
"“DOE is working with our government and industry partners to mitigate any impact from a cyber intrusion affecting entities in the energy sector,” a Department of Energy representative said in an email to Reuters. “At this time, there has been no impact to systems controlling U.S. energy infrastructure. Any potential impact appears to be limited to administrative and business networks.”
It was not clear who was responsible for the hacks. The joint report by the DHS and the FBI did not identify the attackers, though it described the hacks as “an advanced persistent threat,” a term that U.S. officials typically but not always use to describe attacks by culprits.
The DOE discussed its response to the attacks after Bloomberg News reported on Friday that the Wolf Creek nuclear facility in Kansas was among at least a dozen U.S. power firms breached in the attack, citing current and former U.S. officials who were not named.
A representative with the Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corp declined to say if the plant was hacked, but said it continued to operate safely.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-energy-nuclearpower/u-s-energy-department-helping-power-firms-defend-against-cyber-attacks-idUSKBN19S27Z
// just testing the land, preparing the issue..and injecting mostly..//
"“DOE is working with our government and industry partners to mitigate any impact from a cyber intrusion affecting entities in the energy sector,” a Department of Energy representative said in an email to Reuters. “At this time, there has been no impact to systems controlling U.S. energy infrastructure. Any potential impact appears to be limited to administrative and business networks.”
It was not clear who was responsible for the hacks. The joint report by the DHS and the FBI did not identify the attackers, though it described the hacks as “an advanced persistent threat,” a term that U.S. officials typically but not always use to describe attacks by culprits.
The DOE discussed its response to the attacks after Bloomberg News reported on Friday that the Wolf Creek nuclear facility in Kansas was among at least a dozen U.S. power firms breached in the attack, citing current and former U.S. officials who were not named.
A representative with the Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corp declined to say if the plant was hacked, but said it continued to operate safely.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-energy-nuclearpower/u-s-energy-department-helping-power-firms-defend-against-cyber-attacks-idUSKBN19S27Z
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-energy-nuclearpower/u-s-energy-department-helping-power-firms-defend-against-cyber-attacks-idUSKBN19S27Z
25 November 2017 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
sellesmõttes jah, õigus Sul
25 November 2017 02:28
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
minul on näide pigem sellest, kui raske on olukord, kui need asjad puudu on,
juba aastaid
juba aastaid
25 November 2017 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but i still, Do help A.i.
still
still
25 November 2017 01:55
Margus Meigo replied to Dan Emberton's comment.
keywords: forced sterilization in ancient language roots in Peru
25 November 2017 01:37
Margus Meigo replied to Dan Emberton's comment.
just be aware, when these mad scientists figure out that your type of gene is in a way of good agenda,be sure to agree then , for sake of progress why your roots have to be turned off,
as they did with Peru
as they did not want to serve money
as they did with Peru
as they did not want to serve money
25 November 2017 01:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i plan to live way longer, whiteout robotization ,
Would not do it even if i am half animal robot laboratory slave for who it would be only way to see real sunlight,
Or whatever, real light,
I like organic, tech where humans learn how to live correct so they indefinitely get new body and body life extension from the ones who cut it down
or new proper body with proper birth if needed
just in hope that we will see our own past life's writings on time
Would not do it even if i am half animal robot laboratory slave for who it would be only way to see real sunlight,
Or whatever, real light,
I like organic, tech where humans learn how to live correct so they indefinitely get new body and body life extension from the ones who cut it down
or new proper body with proper birth if needed
just in hope that we will see our own past life's writings on time
25 November 2017 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Schulke's post.
As i told about this comunist plot: https://www.facebook.com/ericschulke/posts/10213488757753989
25 November 2017 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Schulke's photo.
Is like You ?
25 November 2017 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
what about taking some scientist in to india and africa slums (or white poorest arias) and try to figure out how to solve this massive issue right there
and mean time invest perhaps more in to shamanism and learn safely first, what is out there and in here
and mean time invest perhaps more in to shamanism and learn safely first, what is out there and in here
25 November 2017 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Schulke's post.
Sounds like movie
25 November 2017 01:01
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
nagu elavhõbe, kõik liituvad uuesti kes kokkupuutuvad ja end ära tunnevad
22 November 2017 13:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
(just järgisin pool irooniliselt siin, isegi kommentaare muudesse postitustesse ilma kohta tulnud ja palju muud kuid ei midagi NII olulise kirjakoha kohta? )19 November 2017 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
NU teretali, ei olegi ühtegi vastust, 20 muudele postitustele leitakse vastus, aga sellele mitte??19 November 2017 20:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
kui siin juba mustamiseks läks tulebtasakaalustada19 November 2017 20:11
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Kristlased
(greeka filosoofia meelne Jumalarahva vihkajast Marthin)
Luther oli Kristliku ideaali olulisemate alusnurgakivide hävitamise vaieldamatu lõplik algus
võga paljude usuteadlaste arvates, sh. Einar Laigna meie omadest, kõige tuntum kes selle välja ütles19 November 2017 20:11
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Kristlased
Mõelda vaid kui paljude elu nad päästnud on19 November 2017 20:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
Sama asi ing keele lehes:
http://biblehub.com/mark/10-29.htm (+ kommentaarid)
Luke Koos juuudi versioonidega:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2014%3A25-27&version=CJB;AKJV;OJBhttp://biblehub.com/mark/10-29.htm
18 November 2017 14:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Kas on veel selliseid, sellelaadseid või vastaspoolseid kohti pühakirjades?18 November 2017 14:25
Margus Meigo commented on Alicia Calloway's post.
Group: UFO & ALIEN RESEARCH SOCIETY
I really do not think, cosmos exists
It is just technology to keep us in bubble, to think it is there and we are in it... and more deep you go and see more it will discover it self but it is at best, a egg cell, in laboratory where is much more minds and earth
Earth they use, to extract life
for them self17 November 2017 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
eks sinnamaani varsti jõuame ka, kahju et ainult osa inimesi aeglased arusaama, et Kommunistid ammu selle jagasid... et lopus on loodus grupid need millega nad kui kõik muu läbi kukub, uuesti jalule saavad...
ja seega vaatasin just... libeaalid,e noorte kommarite liit grupid suures osas rohelisi gruppe palju, nagu ka vanasti USA luuretegevus juba ammu ütlenud, et nad seda juba 60 ndate ajal tegid, ...
point, et nagu parem sinised peaksid looduse teema võtma ja esirinda tugevalt panema ja perversuste klubid selle kõige küljest lahti raiduma (kes "rohelisi" selleks kasutab, et noorte hinge sõita sisse oma uute skeemidega.... peenematega kui kunagi varem..), et elu alles jääks
ja seega vaatasin just... libeaalid,e noorte kommarite liit grupid suures osas rohelisi gruppe palju, nagu ka vanasti USA luuretegevus juba ammu ütlenud, et nad seda juba 60 ndate ajal tegid, ...
point, et nagu parem sinised peaksid looduse teema võtma ja esirinda tugevalt panema ja perversuste klubid selle kõige küljest lahti raiduma (kes "rohelisi" selleks kasutab, et noorte hinge sõita sisse oma uute skeemidega.... peenematega kui kunagi varem..), et elu alles jääks
17 November 2017 02:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.ester.ee/record=b2097854~S8*est
http://www.ester.ee/record=b2097854~S8*est
17 November 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Inimesed, olge valvsad. Sa ei ole enam üksnes see, mida sa sööd. Sa oled see, mida sa telerist ja arvutist näed. Aga natuke ka see, mida sa sööd. Nii et vaata ette, mida nad sul süüa soovitavad"
Jaanus Harro Uimastite Ajastu, (lk 244)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3358130828809&set=a.3358125388673.2153626.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.3358125388673.2153626.1135161043&type=3
Jaanus Harro Uimastite Ajastu, (lk 244)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3358130828809&set=a.3358125388673.2153626.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.3358125388673.2153626.1135161043&type=3
17 November 2017 02:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuigi psühedeelikumid pole uimastid, siiski siiski
lugege lisa ka Eesti vast maailmas enim tuntud ja tsiteeritud teadlase, Jaanus Harro kirjatükki:
" Kaasahaarav ja kergesti jälgitav teos, mille fookuses on eelkõige uimastite - nii legaalsete kui illegaalsete - mõju inimpsüühikale, annab ka ajaloolise ülevaate mõnuainete seisundist ühiskonnas, nende tähendusest eri kultuurides ning kirjeldab uimastite peegeldamist kunstis ja meedias. Raamat peaks andma ammendava vastuse suuremale osale küsimustest, mis huvitavad inimesi seoses narkootiliste ainega. Lisaks pakub ta ka võimalust mõtisklusteks inimeseks olemisest 21. sajandi künnisel. Uimasteid tutvustades lahkab autor ka küsimusi inimeste valikutest, võimalustest, nende olemusest ja mõjutajatest. Raamatus puudub naiivmoralistlik hüsteeria, mis uimastiteemat sageli saadab, ning autor on oma seisukohti väljendanud kainelt, kuid kerge irooniaga: "Inimesed, olge valvsad. Sa ei ole enam üksnes see, mida sa sööd. Sa oled see, mida sa telerist ja arvutist näed. Aga natuke ka see, mida sa sööd. Nii et vaata ette, mida nad sul süüa soovitavad" (lk 244). "
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/areen/uimastite-ajastu?id=69032803
Ja loodetavasti tal ka lubatakse hakata neid uuringuid tegema... mida ta mainis, et veel selles Vabas riigis ei lubata... Lihtsalt selle pärast, et võõrvõimud kes planeeti vallutuses hoiavad, ei luba, ei lubanud kommunistid ega ka nende järeltulijad.... ja teadag miks, miks nad peaks lubama inimestel tervem
lugege lisa ka Eesti vast maailmas enim tuntud ja tsiteeritud teadlase, Jaanus Harro kirjatükki:
" Kaasahaarav ja kergesti jälgitav teos, mille fookuses on eelkõige uimastite - nii legaalsete kui illegaalsete - mõju inimpsüühikale, annab ka ajaloolise ülevaate mõnuainete seisundist ühiskonnas, nende tähendusest eri kultuurides ning kirjeldab uimastite peegeldamist kunstis ja meedias. Raamat peaks andma ammendava vastuse suuremale osale küsimustest, mis huvitavad inimesi seoses narkootiliste ainega. Lisaks pakub ta ka võimalust mõtisklusteks inimeseks olemisest 21. sajandi künnisel. Uimasteid tutvustades lahkab autor ka küsimusi inimeste valikutest, võimalustest, nende olemusest ja mõjutajatest. Raamatus puudub naiivmoralistlik hüsteeria, mis uimastiteemat sageli saadab, ning autor on oma seisukohti väljendanud kainelt, kuid kerge irooniaga: "Inimesed, olge valvsad. Sa ei ole enam üksnes see, mida sa sööd. Sa oled see, mida sa telerist ja arvutist näed. Aga natuke ka see, mida sa sööd. Nii et vaata ette, mida nad sul süüa soovitavad" (lk 244). "
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/areen/uimastite-ajastu?id=69032803
Ja loodetavasti tal ka lubatakse hakata neid uuringuid tegema... mida ta mainis, et veel selles Vabas riigis ei lubata... Lihtsalt selle pärast, et võõrvõimud kes planeeti vallutuses hoiavad, ei luba, ei lubanud kommunistid ega ka nende järeltulijad.... ja teadag miks, miks nad peaks lubama inimestel tervem
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/areen/uimastite-ajastu?id=69032803
17 November 2017 02:33
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Kaasik's post.
Siin ikkagi sinised lipud ja ilma viisnurkadeta, kuid eks näis milline mõistus sääl etteotsa pääseb.
Nad suts nagu Eestlased, nad pole nii naiivsed,kuigi ka neile ajaloos kott pähe tõmmatud erinevate kavalate oma kultuuri imiteerivate vallutajate poolt
Nad suts nagu Eestlased, nad pole nii naiivsed,kuigi ka neile ajaloos kott pähe tõmmatud erinevate kavalate oma kultuuri imiteerivate vallutajate poolt
16 November 2017 23:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid eks kõik mis antud, tuleb vaadata kellelt ja miks,
16 November 2017 22:43
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Kaasik's post.
Parem Üks kui mitte mittemidagi
16 November 2017 22:43
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Kaasik's post.
NU vandenõud olid sin juba ammu japikalt planeeritud, et e-Riigi kuvand meilt kaaperdada, meid selles osas maha matta ja siis kommunistid ise globaalse e-Rigi systeemi teevad millesse kõiki riike liidavad mitmekihiliselt,
praegu Eesti täiesti jalus,
sest imago veel pole piisavalt mahatambitud, igast Rõivase vastased lood ja keskvalitsus ja palju muud kes väga tõsist tööd teeb meie kultuuri likvideerimiseks pannes Eestlasi mitte asjalike süva pärimuskultuuriga tegelema, vaid EKREga käsikäes, õigemini EKRET kasutades, programeerivad ja hüptnotiseerivad ühiskonda oma kodumaa vastaseks.
Kes vähegi on viitsinud aastate taguseid Tallina TV saateid kuulata saab kohe asjast aru, kes vaatab kes ja miks Tallinna TV tegid saab ilma vaatamatagi aru asjast
praegu Eesti täiesti jalus,
sest imago veel pole piisavalt mahatambitud, igast Rõivase vastased lood ja keskvalitsus ja palju muud kes väga tõsist tööd teeb meie kultuuri likvideerimiseks pannes Eestlasi mitte asjalike süva pärimuskultuuriga tegelema, vaid EKREga käsikäes, õigemini EKRET kasutades, programeerivad ja hüptnotiseerivad ühiskonda oma kodumaa vastaseks.
Kes vähegi on viitsinud aastate taguseid Tallina TV saateid kuulata saab kohe asjast aru, kes vaatab kes ja miks Tallinna TV tegid saab ilma vaatamatagi aru asjast
16 November 2017 22:43
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Kaasik's post.
NU loomulikult, ütles kohe alguses välja ju: "VASAK jõudude poolel"
Siis täiesti peab paika, lodevad elukombed ja joomarlus, sest see on üks sotsalismi ja kommunismi (suurs plaanis tänapäeva "demokraatia") nurgakivi
I
Siis täiesti peab paika, lodevad elukombed ja joomarlus, sest see on üks sotsalismi ja kommunismi (suurs plaanis tänapäeva "demokraatia") nurgakivi
I
16 November 2017 22:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ammu aastaid enne seda kui Catalon uudistes oli, mind sise revolutsioonäärid kutsusid tasuta oma komuunidesse elama ja häkkima, bitcoini ning keskonda arendama jms
16 November 2017 22:35
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Kaasik's photo.
Kahtlane värk,mina neid masoonliku Kommunisti ajaloo läbi tuletatud lippude ja praeguste kommunistide aktivistide lippe nii naljalt ja kergelt me veel osati Vabariigi lipuga kokku kleebiks...
Ja lisaks veel pentagram otse (Mis ka EU üks varju projekte, sisekommunistide poolt, saada viisnurgad iga lipu peale kunagi, et rahvusriike likvideerida ja totalitaarset võimu ühemeelse jumalatuse osas suurendada)
Ja lisaks veel pentagram otse (Mis ka EU üks varju projekte, sisekommunistide poolt, saada viisnurgad iga lipu peale kunagi, et rahvusriike likvideerida ja totalitaarset võimu ühemeelse jumalatuse osas suurendada)
16 November 2017 22:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// minu endale, enda märge __
16 November 2017 01:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
f11
16 November 2017 01:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
16 November 2017 01:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
.:.
Good still
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213497645132257
Good still
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213497645132257
16 November 2017 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
also pink inside as Estonian's outside
16 November 2017 01:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
then again, it is as good it can get
16 November 2017 01:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
i would still prefer only this If more casual is available
16 November 2017 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to Aki Pulli's comment.
imestavad miks depresioon, närvihaiged lapsed paljudel alkoholi joonud vanematel kes perest omakorda eemalduvad ja mitu muud tervisehäda lisaks oma enda kultuuritunde hääbumisele ja aatelist patriootlikust aja üldse tikuotsaga taga
16 November 2017 00:17
Margus Meigo replied to Aki Pulli's comment.
Eestastele tuleks arenguabi anda, kui nad sellisel tasemel, arengus, et roomavad lätti alkoholi järele... päris suur mark ikka suure pildina, välisuuringute silmis,
eriti arvestades, et pool rahvast on allapoole vaesuse piiri enne kuu lõppu ja siis joovad ja suitsetavad ka otsa veel
eriti arvestades, et pool rahvast on allapoole vaesuse piiri enne kuu lõppu ja siis joovad ja suitsetavad ka otsa veel
16 November 2017 00:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Erik Roose oli see jah, keda mõtlesin,
pole küll selle postitusega miskit suurt pistmist, kuid kaaluda võiks ikka kui juba kaalumiseks läks
pole küll selle postitusega miskit suurt pistmist, kuid kaaluda võiks ikka kui juba kaalumiseks läks
16 November 2017 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on Fortune's live video.
Conversations have to be documented, have been working on these kind of mindsets long time ago, clad to see others also talk and think so
15 November 2017 00:51
Margus Meigo commented on Gary Joe Ahrns's live video.
In Gods name it should be a sin, crime also, to destroy food in massive amounts as that
15 November 2017 00:33
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Lepp's post.
Saagem tuttavaks ka kõik (
Puutini Oraakel Toomas Sirge Sass Vask Sander Viirmaa )
Puutini Oraakel Toomas Sirge Sass Vask Sander Viirmaa )
15 November 2017 00:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41924797
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41924797
14 November 2017 23:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Tere!
HÄSTIAJASTATUD LOENG NEITSITORNIS ( Vt alljärgnevat pressiteadet )
Kaaskirjas USA koostööst Hiina ja Vietnamiga, mis sealsed energiahiiud Põhja-Ameerikasse tuua võib
Rahulikku AEGA soovides
USA - HIINA
Võimalik, et Hiina energiahiiud Alaskal toimetama hakkavad
Trump touts big energy deals in Asia
14 November 2014
US President Donald Trump wraps up a 12-day tour of Asia on Tuesday which he said created $300bn (£228bn) in sales to companies in the region and several major energy deals.
Energy agreements made up roughly half the total value of deals in China .
If it proceeds, a project in Alaska would mark the first major investment by a Chinese energy firm in the US.
Among the energy agreements, the highest value was China Energy Investment Corporation's plan to invest $83.7bn over two decades in shale gas and chemical manufacturing projects in the state of West Virginia.
That was followed by a $43bn deal to develop liquefied natural gas in Alaska, between China's top state oil firm Sinopec, Bank of China and China Investment Corp, and Alaska Gasoline Development Corp.
Also in China, Cheniere Energy signed a memorandum of understanding with China National Petroleum Corp for LNG sales.
Two US energy companies - AES Corp and Alaska Gasline Development Corp - signed a memorandum of understanding with Vietnam's PetroVietnam Gas.
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-41967171
China Energy, world’s largest power company, to invest $83 billion in West Virginia shale gas November 9, 2017
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/nov/9/china-energy-invest-83b-west-virginia-shale-gas/
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-asia-energy-west-virginia/china-energy-investment-signs-mou-for-83-7-billion-in-west-virginia-projects-idUSKBN1D90S9
These are the companies behind Trump's $250 billion of China deals
November 9, 2017
http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/09/investing/china-trump-business-deals/index.html
Trump's China trip is a test for US natural gas exports and his 'America First Energy Plan’
8 Nov 2017
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/11/08/trumps-china-trip-is-a-test-for-us-natural-gas-exports.html
В Китае заблокирован "Твиттер". Как же Трамп твитит?
http://www.bbc.com/russian/features-41928677
США-Китай: как Пекину удалось выиграть первый раунд
Кэрри Грейси Корреспондент Би-би-си в Китае
24 февраля 2017
http://www.bbc.com/russian/features-39075790
VIETNAM
Oma Kommunistiku Partei targal juhtimisel on sõjas laastatud Vietnamist kiiresti areneva majandusega riik saanud. ( Riisi väljaveos ollakse maailmas teisel kohal, kaupade suurimaks väljaveoturuks on USA )
Vietnam Exports
In the last 5 years, Vietnam's exports have doubled as competitive minimum wage and low costs of utilities boosted foreign direct investment in the manufacturing sector. Vietnam main exports are: telephone and spare parts (19 percent of the total shipments) and textiles (14 percent). Others include: electronics, computers and components (10 percent), shoes and footwear (7 percent) and other machinery, equipment, tools and spare parts (5 percent). Main export partners are: the United States (20.7 percent of the total exports), China (10.6 percent) Japan (8.7 percent). Others include: South Korea (5.5 percent), Hong Kong (4 percent) and Germany (4 percent).
https://tradingeconomics.com/vietnam/exports
Vietnam Rejoins Club of 6%-GDP-Growth Nations as Exports Surge
By
Nguyen Dieu Tu Uyen
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-29/vietnam-s-economy-expands-at-faster-pace-in-second-quarter
Vietnam Export Rice Prices Skyrocket
The price of rice for exports from Vietnam, the world’s second largest rice exporter, in the international market has risen substantially in the first two months of this year, amid soaring rice exports, according to the country’s food association.
In the last two months, the price of Vietnam’s rice has remained steady at US$245 to US$260 per ton, up US$55 per ton from the same period last year, said Truong Thanh Phong, chairman of Vietnam Food Association (Vietfood), the country’s rice export managing body.
http://vccinews.com/news_detail.asp?news_id=3420
USA - VIETNAM
( Kokkulepped energeetika ja lennunduse vallas, Trump pakkus müügiks ka sõjavarustust, mõned asjatundjad peavad võimalikuks sõjaväehelikopterite müüki Vietnamile )
Michael Mazza, a visiting fellow at the American Enterprise Institute think tank in Washington and an Asia-Pacific defense policy specialist, said U.S. interests were on the side of a cooperative relationship with Vietnam.
“A robust bilateral relationship has the potential to increase prosperity for both countries, facilitate U.S. power projection in the region, deter Chinese bad behavior, and, generally speaking, shape a Southeast Asia and broader Asia-Pacific conducive to American interests,” he said.
Memories from the Vietnam War, he added, have not proved particularly pertinent in contemporary relations, apart from cooperation over searching for the bodies of American soldiers and Agent Orange cleanup.
https://thediplomat.com/2017/11/does-vietnam-have-trumps-backing/
Trump then went on to suggest that Vietnam buy American military gear, aircraft and missiles.
"We would like you to buy your equipment from the United States," Trump said in comments reported by CNN.
"We make the best equipment. We make the best military gear, and planes, and anything you can name. The missiles are in a category that no ones even comes close."
Trump described how a US-made Patriot missile defence system recently intercepted a Yemeni-made missile that was shot over Saudi Arabia's capital.
http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/trump-makes-sales-pitch-to-vietnam-as-energy-and-aviation-deals-signed-in-hanoi
VAIKSE OOKEANI RIIKIDE KOOSTÖÖST
TRANS PACIFIC DEAL LIVES
In a boost for the principle of multilateral trade pacts, countries in the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade deal agreed on the core elements to move ahead without the United States.
Leaders pose during the family photo session at the APEC Summit in Danang, Vietnam November 11, 2017. (Front L-R) Chile's President Michelle Bachelet, China's President Xi Jinping, Vietnam's President Tran Dai Quang, Indonesia's President Joko Widodo, Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, South Korea's President Moon Jae-in, (back L-R) Peru's President Pedro Pablo Kuczynski, Philippines' President Rodrigo Duterte, Russia's President Vladimir Putin, U.S. President Donald Trump, Thailand's Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha, Singapore's Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. REUTERS/Jorge Silva
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-apec-summit/asia-pacific-leaders-say-to-fight-unfair-trade-in-nod-to-trump-idUSKBN1DA2MW
HÄSTIAJASTATUD LOENG NEITSITORNIS ( Vt alljärgnevat pressiteadet )
Kaaskirjas USA koostööst Hiina ja Vietnamiga, mis sealsed energiahiiud Põhja-Ameerikasse tuua võib
Rahulikku AEGA soovides
USA - HIINA
Võimalik, et Hiina energiahiiud Alaskal toimetama hakkavad
Trump touts big energy deals in Asia
14 November 2014
US President Donald Trump wraps up a 12-day tour of Asia on Tuesday which he said created $300bn (£228bn) in sales to companies in the region and several major energy deals.
Energy agreements made up roughly half the total value of deals in China .
If it proceeds, a project in Alaska would mark the first major investment by a Chinese energy firm in the US.
Among the energy agreements, the highest value was China Energy Investment Corporation's plan to invest $83.7bn over two decades in shale gas and chemical manufacturing projects in the state of West Virginia.
That was followed by a $43bn deal to develop liquefied natural gas in Alaska, between China's top state oil firm Sinopec, Bank of China and China Investment Corp, and Alaska Gasoline Development Corp.
Also in China, Cheniere Energy signed a memorandum of understanding with China National Petroleum Corp for LNG sales.
Two US energy companies - AES Corp and Alaska Gasline Development Corp - signed a memorandum of understanding with Vietnam's PetroVietnam Gas.
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-41967171
China Energy, world’s largest power company, to invest $83 billion in West Virginia shale gas November 9, 2017
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/nov/9/china-energy-invest-83b-west-virginia-shale-gas/
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-asia-energy-west-virginia/china-energy-investment-signs-mou-for-83-7-billion-in-west-virginia-projects-idUSKBN1D90S9
These are the companies behind Trump's $250 billion of China deals
November 9, 2017
http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/09/investing/china-trump-business-deals/index.html
Trump's China trip is a test for US natural gas exports and his 'America First Energy Plan’
8 Nov 2017
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/11/08/trumps-china-trip-is-a-test-for-us-natural-gas-exports.html
В Китае заблокирован "Твиттер". Как же Трамп твитит?
http://www.bbc.com/russian/features-41928677
США-Китай: как Пекину удалось выиграть первый раунд
Кэрри Грейси Корреспондент Би-би-си в Китае
24 февраля 2017
http://www.bbc.com/russian/features-39075790
VIETNAM
Oma Kommunistiku Partei targal juhtimisel on sõjas laastatud Vietnamist kiiresti areneva majandusega riik saanud. ( Riisi väljaveos ollakse maailmas teisel kohal, kaupade suurimaks väljaveoturuks on USA )
Vietnam Exports
In the last 5 years, Vietnam's exports have doubled as competitive minimum wage and low costs of utilities boosted foreign direct investment in the manufacturing sector. Vietnam main exports are: telephone and spare parts (19 percent of the total shipments) and textiles (14 percent). Others include: electronics, computers and components (10 percent), shoes and footwear (7 percent) and other machinery, equipment, tools and spare parts (5 percent). Main export partners are: the United States (20.7 percent of the total exports), China (10.6 percent) Japan (8.7 percent). Others include: South Korea (5.5 percent), Hong Kong (4 percent) and Germany (4 percent).
https://tradingeconomics.com/vietnam/exports
Vietnam Rejoins Club of 6%-GDP-Growth Nations as Exports Surge
By
Nguyen Dieu Tu Uyen
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-29/vietnam-s-economy-expands-at-faster-pace-in-second-quarter
Vietnam Export Rice Prices Skyrocket
The price of rice for exports from Vietnam, the world’s second largest rice exporter, in the international market has risen substantially in the first two months of this year, amid soaring rice exports, according to the country’s food association.
In the last two months, the price of Vietnam’s rice has remained steady at US$245 to US$260 per ton, up US$55 per ton from the same period last year, said Truong Thanh Phong, chairman of Vietnam Food Association (Vietfood), the country’s rice export managing body.
http://vccinews.com/news_detail.asp?news_id=3420
USA - VIETNAM
( Kokkulepped energeetika ja lennunduse vallas, Trump pakkus müügiks ka sõjavarustust, mõned asjatundjad peavad võimalikuks sõjaväehelikopterite müüki Vietnamile )
Michael Mazza, a visiting fellow at the American Enterprise Institute think tank in Washington and an Asia-Pacific defense policy specialist, said U.S. interests were on the side of a cooperative relationship with Vietnam.
“A robust bilateral relationship has the potential to increase prosperity for both countries, facilitate U.S. power projection in the region, deter Chinese bad behavior, and, generally speaking, shape a Southeast Asia and broader Asia-Pacific conducive to American interests,” he said.
Memories from the Vietnam War, he added, have not proved particularly pertinent in contemporary relations, apart from cooperation over searching for the bodies of American soldiers and Agent Orange cleanup.
https://thediplomat.com/2017/11/does-vietnam-have-trumps-backing/
Trump then went on to suggest that Vietnam buy American military gear, aircraft and missiles.
"We would like you to buy your equipment from the United States," Trump said in comments reported by CNN.
"We make the best equipment. We make the best military gear, and planes, and anything you can name. The missiles are in a category that no ones even comes close."
Trump described how a US-made Patriot missile defence system recently intercepted a Yemeni-made missile that was shot over Saudi Arabia's capital.
http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/trump-makes-sales-pitch-to-vietnam-as-energy-and-aviation-deals-signed-in-hanoi
VAIKSE OOKEANI RIIKIDE KOOSTÖÖST
TRANS PACIFIC DEAL LIVES
In a boost for the principle of multilateral trade pacts, countries in the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade deal agreed on the core elements to move ahead without the United States.
Leaders pose during the family photo session at the APEC Summit in Danang, Vietnam November 11, 2017. (Front L-R) Chile's President Michelle Bachelet, China's President Xi Jinping, Vietnam's President Tran Dai Quang, Indonesia's President Joko Widodo, Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, South Korea's President Moon Jae-in, (back L-R) Peru's President Pedro Pablo Kuczynski, Philippines' President Rodrigo Duterte, Russia's President Vladimir Putin, U.S. President Donald Trump, Thailand's Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha, Singapore's Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. REUTERS/Jorge Silva
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-apec-summit/asia-pacific-leaders-say-to-fight-unfair-trade-in-nod-to-trump-idUSKBN1DA2MW
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-41967171
14 November 2017 23:48
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
(pimedus siinkohal on mõeldud positiivsena)
http://biblehub.com/1_peter/3-4.htm
http://biblehub.com/1_peter/3-4.htm
http://biblehub.com/1_peter/3-4.htm
14 November 2017 17:36
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
nu eks siin tuleb eraldada, millised on jumalikud paganlikud ja millised juba siis , jumalateest eemal olevad paganlikud..
14 November 2017 17:31
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
vot eip oskagi öelda, kas see on areng ühes või teises suunas, et siis ehk ringiga õnsasse vaiksesse pimedusse jõutakse... või ikka see samm, et viimanigi imtiimsus likvideerida, sest jumal on lähemal sääl kus on hämar ja vaikne..
14 November 2017 17:25
Margus Meigo commented on Oliver Perli's photo.
Will do have one!
14 November 2017 17:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" same time: http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/letter-to-humanity-warning-climate-change-global-warming-scientists-union-concerned-a8052481.html#commentsDiv
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/letter-to-humanity-warning-climate-change-global-warming-scientists-union-concerned-a8052481.html#commentsDiv
14 November 2017 17:14
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Taavi Timm irw :D
Nu jah, mis siin ikka käbidest mis kännust kaugele..
Nu jah, mis siin ikka käbidest mis kännust kaugele..
14 November 2017 14:38
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Samalajal jutud, plaanimaks mõelda, kas juua v mitte..
https://www.facebook.com/tarmo.kruusimae/posts/1606668566064950?notif_id=1510661812803235¬if_t=notify_me
https://www.facebook.com/tarmo.kruusimae/posts/1606668566064950?notif_id=1510661812803235¬if_t=notify_me
14 November 2017 14:24
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Võiks kaaluda võimalust see Roosa mees trellidetaha viia kes ERR i kaalub reklaaami tagasi panna ja avalikult välja ütles, et enam ei ole võrdseid aksiaid igalühel otsustada vaid nüüd hakkab Riigi hinge televisiooniline, informatiivne peegeldus ja struktuur toimima lihtsalt nagu äri, ilma hingelise ja looduslike kaalutlusteta,
ammugi mitte pole äri eesmärgid ju hoida rahvust ennast
ammugi mitte pole äri eesmärgid ju hoida rahvust ennast
14 November 2017 14:22
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
ja kes kui kergesti meeldetuletatav, iseendale, kes nad on ja miks
14 November 2017 13:57
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
alati saab alati saab... aga inimesede kes samade nimede taga, me pole veel kindlad kui mitmed kui samad veel on
14 November 2017 13:56
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
St. head oli mida saaks kasutada normaalse ühiskonna ja nende vigade korda rakendamiseks mida eelmised 10+ impeeriumi üritust on kokku kloppsinud
14 November 2017 13:47
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
N. Liidus palju head oli, üldiselt aga just oleks vaja Õige järjepideva nähtavuse ja auväärsu avaliku saladuse suunas
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212267413817243&set=a.1538241892723.2077795.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212267413817243&set=a.1538241892723.2077795.1135161043&type=3&theater
14 November 2017 13:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et ka https://www.jstor.org/stable/283341
https://www.jstor.org/stable/283341
14 November 2017 11:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tsivilisatsiooni hullustest nad ei räägi, kuid kuidas mitme selle eest kaitsta, seda küll!
14 November 2017 11:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mp3 kindlasti alla laadige lehelt
14 November 2017 11:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tuleb ARU saada, et lisaks VANADE kasulike asjade osas, ei pea me IGAT vana asja kaasa tarima, mis seda asja lörtsis juba Tol ajal,
nii valed loitsud kui ebaõiged kemplemised,
kuigi , kui on kemplemised siis asjapäraselt sügavameelsed http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/c453bb46-7a38-44c0-9d7b-a7f5e0bd1d3e/kajalood-ahto-kaasik-vanad-parimused-on-meie-rikkus-ja-meie-joud-praegugi
nii valed loitsud kui ebaõiged kemplemised,
kuigi , kui on kemplemised siis asjapäraselt sügavameelsed http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/c453bb46-7a38-44c0-9d7b-a7f5e0bd1d3e/kajalood-ahto-kaasik-vanad-parimused-on-meie-rikkus-ja-meie-joud-praegugi
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/kajalood/saated/c453bb46-7a38-44c0-9d7b-a7f5e0bd1d3e/kajalood-ahto-kaasik-vanad-parimused-on-meie-rikkus-ja-meie-joud-praegugi
14 November 2017 11:16
Margus Meigo commented on Ahto Kaasik's photo.
Tarkade inimestega siin koos : )
Kuid kas loome piisavalt huumust, et lilledevahelt puud kasvaksid?
Kuid kas loome piisavalt huumust, et lilledevahelt puud kasvaksid?
14 November 2017 11:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
14 November 2017 10:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/margus-meigo/kaaskirjas-saudi-araabia-sise-ja-v%C3%A4lisheitlustest-paradiisilehtedest-volgogradi-/10155933654658069/
13 November 2017 09:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja samal ajal meeles hoida, et:
"Mother Teresa once said might be helpful here: “We are called to be faithful, not successful.”
"Mother Teresa once said might be helpful here: “We are called to be faithful, not successful.”
13 November 2017 05:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehk eestikeeli mehelikuse puudus
13 November 2017 05:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vähesed tuhandied
13 November 2017 05:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Man qualification is: does he suffers from lacking of a woman. " - kas on ka tõlge samas?
pusillanimity, esimesena tõesti teismelise tarkusena selle vana eelgreeka tarkuse üles tõi, mida tolleaja targad võisid ette teada kaudselt, et vajalike keeli sellise efekti jaoks arenemas hoida,
usklikud ju pärandavad elutöö ja mõni sükkel mida tehakse on sadu aastaid pikk
pusillanimity, esimesena tõesti teismelise tarkusena selle vana eelgreeka tarkuse üles tõi, mida tolleaja targad võisid ette teada kaudselt, et vajalike keeli sellise efekti jaoks arenemas hoida,
usklikud ju pärandavad elutöö ja mõni sükkel mida tehakse on sadu aastaid pikk
13 November 2017 05:41
Margus Meigo commented on Sotsiaalministeerium's video.
Mina, kui ma isaks saaks
13 November 2017 05:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Riigilt ka ilusa video avastasin:
Neljas laps ka, loodame, et lihtsalt juhuslikult mitte valitud, muidu oleks diskrimineeritud või tegelikust moonutatud
https://www.facebook.com/Sotsiaalministeerium/videos/1734147859931538/
Peaasi, et isa ikka ilus on, omas katekoorias!
Neljas laps ka, loodame, et lihtsalt juhuslikult mitte valitud, muidu oleks diskrimineeritud või tegelikust moonutatud
https://www.facebook.com/Sotsiaalministeerium/videos/1734147859931538/
Peaasi, et isa ikka ilus on, omas katekoorias!
13 November 2017 05:20
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek Korts's comment.
USA teadlased tõdevad lingiga seotud kommentaaridest:
"Eestlastele on tyypiline ennast maha teha"
"EI, nad on lihtsalt tagasihoidlikud"
"EI, see nende kultuuri vastastiku julgustuse moodus"
" Ei nad said läbi selle süsteemi seestpoolt ümberseadistades... "
"Eestlastele on tyypiline ennast maha teha"
"EI, nad on lihtsalt tagasihoidlikud"
"EI, see nende kultuuri vastastiku julgustuse moodus"
" Ei nad said läbi selle süsteemi seestpoolt ümberseadistades... "
13 November 2017 05:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid yea,
on asjad mida valitud, naermiseks ja asjad mida keelamiseks(), asjad mida hirmutamiseks ja asjad mida veel korra väljanaermiseks, kui otse keelata on liialt
on asjad mida valitud, naermiseks ja asjad mida keelamiseks(), asjad mida hirmutamiseks ja asjad mida veel korra väljanaermiseks, kui otse keelata on liialt
13 November 2017 05:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
13 November 2017 05:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But yea, first "khm" posted picture posted as it is looking beautiful, but also what they promote and what is the man connected to related video about to say..
13 November 2017 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
At least next Generation will not play indCraft unless its starts to benefit human evolution
13 November 2017 04:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or another momboJambo
13 November 2017 04:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So Great we got ta have this website
that plans to organize needed tools http://flatroundland.blogspot.com.ee/p/links-to-measuring-tools-and-maps.html
Väike arengutõrge veel, kuid eks kõik ole paigutatud nagu vaja, jääme uskuma.
that plans to organize needed tools http://flatroundland.blogspot.com.ee/p/links-to-measuring-tools-and-maps.html
Väike arengutõrge veel, kuid eks kõik ole paigutatud nagu vaja, jääme uskuma.
http://flatroundland.blogspot.com.ee/p/links-to-measuring-tools-and-maps.html
13 November 2017 04:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Do they really think, that they do not destroy matter or energy that is made by matter that is done by vibration between // .. material or opposite react-able Hzz....
13 November 2017 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui nii (siis suts veider):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkNPQxAVlBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkNPQxAVlBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkNPQxAVlBo
13 November 2017 01:31
Margus Meigo commented on Metatron Kabbalah's photo.
to short beard to battle with
13 November 2017 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. Parem nii:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iqpaTLjZco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iqpaTLjZco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iqpaTLjZco
13 November 2017 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sanderile muuseas,
juhuks kui muud sanderid pealekauba, kuid hea soov pole kunagi üleliia (kui ta on targalt vormistatud, ehk jumalahea)
juhuks kui muud sanderid pealekauba, kuid hea soov pole kunagi üleliia (kui ta on targalt vormistatud, ehk jumalahea)
12 November 2017 02:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei hakkaks, st
ei oot, kuidas see nüüd .. oh see kirjutamisekeele võlud ja raskused
ei oot, kuidas see nüüd .. oh see kirjutamisekeele võlud ja raskused
12 November 2017 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuigi tänapäeval, on para filter nii Hightened, et inimesed ei saa hullu ka panna, ilma, et teised muretsema hakkaks
12 November 2017 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
12 November 2017 02:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
anyway no proof jet for common man
12 November 2017 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nice RIP website by it self.
" The Congressional Office of Technology Assessment closed on September 29, 1995. During its 23-year history, OTA provided Congressional members and committees with objective and authoritative analysis of the complex scientific and technical issues of the late 20th century. It was a leader in practicing and encouraging delivery of public services in innovative and inexpensive ways, including distribution of government documents through electronic publishing. This site honors that legacy by making available in electronic form the complete collection of OTA publications along with additional materials that illuminate the history and impact of the agency."
https://www.princeton.edu/~ota/
" The Congressional Office of Technology Assessment closed on September 29, 1995. During its 23-year history, OTA provided Congressional members and committees with objective and authoritative analysis of the complex scientific and technical issues of the late 20th century. It was a leader in practicing and encouraging delivery of public services in innovative and inexpensive ways, including distribution of government documents through electronic publishing. This site honors that legacy by making available in electronic form the complete collection of OTA publications along with additional materials that illuminate the history and impact of the agency."
https://www.princeton.edu/~ota/
https://www.princeton.edu/~ota/
12 November 2017 01:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
FUll reading:
Holding the Edge: Maintaining the Defense Technology Base
April 1989
https://www.princeton.edu/~ota/disk1/1989/8920/8920.PDF
Holding the Edge: Maintaining the Defense Technology Base
April 1989
https://www.princeton.edu/~ota/disk1/1989/8920/8920.PDF
12 November 2017 01:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
Planning and Funding DoD Technology Base Programs
Acting as a Strong Advocate for DoD’s Science and Technology Programs
Promoting Cooperation Among the Services and DARPA
https://www.princeton.edu/~ota/disk1/1989/8920/892006.PDF
-
"In testimony before the House Armed Services
Committee, the DDR&E, Dr. Robert Duncan, said
that the growth in the ATD program and the SDI
program has offset the losses in research and
exploratory development. However various OSD
and Service representatives contest this statement,
insisting that those technology base activities which
SDI currently supports are aimed exclusively at
solving SDI-related problems. Consequently, potential
benefits flowing from SDI into technology base
programs will be long term, and probably more "
// this is one one section from book
Planning and Funding DoD Technology Base Programs
Acting as a Strong Advocate for DoD’s Science and Technology Programs
Promoting Cooperation Among the Services and DARPA
https://www.princeton.edu/~ota/disk1/1989/8920/892006.PDF
-
"In testimony before the House Armed Services
Committee, the DDR&E, Dr. Robert Duncan, said
that the growth in the ATD program and the SDI
program has offset the losses in research and
exploratory development. However various OSD
and Service representatives contest this statement,
insisting that those technology base activities which
SDI currently supports are aimed exclusively at
solving SDI-related problems. Consequently, potential
benefits flowing from SDI into technology base
programs will be long term, and probably more "
// this is one one section from book
12 November 2017 00:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So the history from :
https://www.acq.osd.mil/chieftechnologist/mission/history.html
Robert Duncan Dec 17, 1987 - Nov 30, 1989
// is needed to be looked if related at all, the person
Director, Defense Research & Engineering
John Young, Jr. Nov 2, 2005 - Jun 2008
Ronald Sega Aug 14, 2001 - Aug 3, 2005
Hans Mark Jul 1, 1998 - May 10, 2001
Anita Jones Jun 1, 1993 - May 23, 1997
Victor Reis Dec 3, 1991 - May 31, 1993
Charles Herzfeld Mar 12, 1990 - May 18, 1991
----
2017 - Present
Acting Assistant Secretary of Defense for Research & Engineering
Mary Miller Jan 20, 2017 - Present
2011 - 2017
Assistant Secretary of Defense for Research & Engineering
Stephen Welby Dec 14, 2015 - Jan 19, 2017
Zachary Lemnios Jul 2, 2009 - Nov 30, 2012
1986 - 2011
1977 - 1986
Under Secretary of Defense for
Research & Engineering
Donald Hicks Aug 6, 1985 - Oct 10, 1986
Richard DeLauer May 7, 1981 - Nov 4, 1984
William Perry Nov 4, 1977 - Jan 20, 1981
1958 - 1977
Director, Defense Research & Engineering
William Perry Apr 11, 1977 - Oct 21, 1977
Malcolm Currie Jun 21, 1973 - Jan 20, 1977
John Foster, Jr. Oct 1, 1965 - Jun 21, 1973
Harold Brown May 8, 1961 - Sept 30, 1965
Herbert York Dec 30, 1958 - Apr 30, 1961
1957 - 1958
Assistant Secretary of Defense
(Research and Engineering)
Paul Foote Sept 10, 1957 - Oct 31, 1958
Frank Newbury Mar 18, 1957 - May 17, 1957
1953 - 1957
Assistant Secretary of Defense
(Research and Development)
Clifford Furnas Dec 1, 1955 - Feb 15, 1957
Donald Quarles Sept 1, 1953 - Aug 14, 1955
Assistant Secretary of Defense (Applications Engineering)
Frank Newbury Aug 18, 1953 - Mar 17, 1957
1947 - 1953
Chairman, Research & Development Board
Walter Whitman Aug 1, 1951 - Jun 29, 1953
William Webster Mar 15, 1950 - Jul 31, 1951
Karl Compton Oct 15, 1948 - Mar 14, 1950
Vannevar Bush Sept 30, 1947 - Oct 14, 1948
https://www.acq.osd.mil/chieftechnologist/mission/history.html
Robert Duncan Dec 17, 1987 - Nov 30, 1989
// is needed to be looked if related at all, the person
Director, Defense Research & Engineering
John Young, Jr. Nov 2, 2005 - Jun 2008
Ronald Sega Aug 14, 2001 - Aug 3, 2005
Hans Mark Jul 1, 1998 - May 10, 2001
Anita Jones Jun 1, 1993 - May 23, 1997
Victor Reis Dec 3, 1991 - May 31, 1993
Charles Herzfeld Mar 12, 1990 - May 18, 1991
----
2017 - Present
Acting Assistant Secretary of Defense for Research & Engineering
Mary Miller Jan 20, 2017 - Present
2011 - 2017
Assistant Secretary of Defense for Research & Engineering
Stephen Welby Dec 14, 2015 - Jan 19, 2017
Zachary Lemnios Jul 2, 2009 - Nov 30, 2012
1986 - 2011
1977 - 1986
Under Secretary of Defense for
Research & Engineering
Donald Hicks Aug 6, 1985 - Oct 10, 1986
Richard DeLauer May 7, 1981 - Nov 4, 1984
William Perry Nov 4, 1977 - Jan 20, 1981
1958 - 1977
Director, Defense Research & Engineering
William Perry Apr 11, 1977 - Oct 21, 1977
Malcolm Currie Jun 21, 1973 - Jan 20, 1977
John Foster, Jr. Oct 1, 1965 - Jun 21, 1973
Harold Brown May 8, 1961 - Sept 30, 1965
Herbert York Dec 30, 1958 - Apr 30, 1961
1957 - 1958
Assistant Secretary of Defense
(Research and Engineering)
Paul Foote Sept 10, 1957 - Oct 31, 1958
Frank Newbury Mar 18, 1957 - May 17, 1957
1953 - 1957
Assistant Secretary of Defense
(Research and Development)
Clifford Furnas Dec 1, 1955 - Feb 15, 1957
Donald Quarles Sept 1, 1953 - Aug 14, 1955
Assistant Secretary of Defense (Applications Engineering)
Frank Newbury Aug 18, 1953 - Mar 17, 1957
1947 - 1953
Chairman, Research & Development Board
Walter Whitman Aug 1, 1951 - Jun 29, 1953
William Webster Mar 15, 1950 - Jul 31, 1951
Karl Compton Oct 15, 1948 - Mar 14, 1950
Vannevar Bush Sept 30, 1947 - Oct 14, 1948
https://www.acq.osd.mil/chieftechnologist/mission/history.html
12 November 2017 00:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
In Page 56:
https://books.google.ee/books?id=Zi4WTy3mt1AC&pg=PA56&lpg=PA56&dq=DDR%26E+robert+duncan&source=bl&ots=3dLwnOGsPH&sig=5fgTTud5RTiHAkuotOYJXlVq2qM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwikivTzy7fXAhXBFJoKHR1jAM8Q6AEINTAC#v=onepage&q&f=false
https://books.google.ee/books?id=Zi4WTy3mt1AC&pg=PA56&lpg=PA56&dq=DDR%26E+robert+duncan&source=bl&ots=3dLwnOGsPH&sig=5fgTTud5RTiHAkuotOYJXlVq2qM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwikivTzy7fXAhXBFJoKHR1jAM8Q6AEINTAC#v=onepage&q&f=false
https://books.google.ee/books?id=Zi4WTy3mt1AC&pg=PA56&lpg=PA56&dq=DDR%26E+robert+duncan&source=bl&ots=3dLwnOGsPH&sig=5fgTTud5RTiHAkuotOYJXlVq2qM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwikivTzy7fXAhXBFJoKHR1jAM8Q6AEINTAC#v=onepage&q&f=false
12 November 2017 00:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but there many Robert Duncans you may say.. // 1988. may
Dr. Robert C. Duncan as "Chairman of the Intelligence Research and Development Cauncil" / William H. Webster
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90G01353R000400390003-7.pdf
Dr. Robert C. Duncan as "Chairman of the Intelligence Research and Development Cauncil" / William H. Webster
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90G01353R000400390003-7.pdf
12 November 2017 00:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey maybe him:
"Direct CIA website, 1988 Dr. Robert Duncan:
Remote Spectometry
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90M00551R001400710022-4.pdf
"Direct CIA website, 1988 Dr. Robert Duncan:
Remote Spectometry
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90M00551R001400710022-4.pdf
12 November 2017 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
OKey from Direct CIA website, 1988 Dr. Robert Duncan:
Remote Spectometry
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90M00551R001400710022-4.pdf
Remote Spectometry
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90M00551R001400710022-4.pdf
12 November 2017 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
From hes, critics blog:
" The “Hidden Observer” as the Cognitive Unconscious During Hypnosis (PDF Download Available).
It is remarkable that both the precuneus as well as the visual areas (cuneus) acts as special hubs in the brain which seem to play central roles in hypnotic state.
• Hilgard’s “neodissociation theory” suggested that during hypnosis the conscious mind dissociates from what happens during hypnosis (Hilgard, 1973, 1977). Hilgard also proposed
the “hidden observer” idea that states that during hypnosis a separated consciousness is formed in an individual’s mind which is capable of observing the individual.
The dissociation (or special state) under hypnosis can be “computationally” closely related to the precuneus that reconfigures the voluntary (conscious) and unconscious circuits via internal multisensory representations generated through suggestion and imagery.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/313399165_The_Hidden_Observer_as_the_Cognitive_Unconscious_During_Hypnosis
" The “Hidden Observer” as the Cognitive Unconscious During Hypnosis (PDF Download Available).
It is remarkable that both the precuneus as well as the visual areas (cuneus) acts as special hubs in the brain which seem to play central roles in hypnotic state.
• Hilgard’s “neodissociation theory” suggested that during hypnosis the conscious mind dissociates from what happens during hypnosis (Hilgard, 1973, 1977). Hilgard also proposed
the “hidden observer” idea that states that during hypnosis a separated consciousness is formed in an individual’s mind which is capable of observing the individual.
The dissociation (or special state) under hypnosis can be “computationally” closely related to the precuneus that reconfigures the voluntary (conscious) and unconscious circuits via internal multisensory representations generated through suggestion and imagery.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/313399165_The_Hidden_Observer_as_the_Cognitive_Unconscious_During_Hypnosis
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/313399165_The_Hidden_Observer_as_the_Cognitive_Unconscious_During_Hypnosis
12 November 2017 00:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Critic side:
"if he got a ph.d. in neural network optimization then he should have some research published somewhere! His talks and research are based on commonly available information that any one can look up. He doesn't use any concepts that any one would not know from basic reading skills. His talks belie any kind of science background - except maybe an undergraduate.
Maybe should someone go read his harvard thesis and photocopy it. For example I have a master's degree - it's online. I have articles published and quoting me from the University of Minnesota when I went there. There should be some mention of the man in regards to Dartmouth or his research, etc. He says he studied with Chomsky at M.I.T. I personally corresponded with Chomsky - his reply to me is online. So c'mon Duncan - give us something."
From person who seems to have science profile as well: http://ecoechoinvasives.blogspot.com.ee/2017/11/awareness-after-death-now-proven-as.html
// yeah, some was with me... many reasons besides that..
"if he got a ph.d. in neural network optimization then he should have some research published somewhere! His talks and research are based on commonly available information that any one can look up. He doesn't use any concepts that any one would not know from basic reading skills. His talks belie any kind of science background - except maybe an undergraduate.
Maybe should someone go read his harvard thesis and photocopy it. For example I have a master's degree - it's online. I have articles published and quoting me from the University of Minnesota when I went there. There should be some mention of the man in regards to Dartmouth or his research, etc. He says he studied with Chomsky at M.I.T. I personally corresponded with Chomsky - his reply to me is online. So c'mon Duncan - give us something."
From person who seems to have science profile as well: http://ecoechoinvasives.blogspot.com.ee/2017/11/awareness-after-death-now-proven-as.html
// yeah, some was with me... many reasons besides that..
http://ecoechoinvasives.blogspot.com.ee/2017/11/awareness-after-death-now-proven-as.html
12 November 2017 00:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Robert Duncan: xxx@harvard.edu
To: Todd Giffen: case@oregonstatehospital.net
Sent: Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 8:50 PM
I know how angry you are. It is unlikely they will kill you but the torture sure feels like it. The real issue will be if they can get you to kill someone else or yourself. That will be your internal battle for awhile. Lowering your stress levels will slow the induction process and the rewiring of your brain. Valium helps. I wish I could say it will end well but most likely this will be your eternal battle. You are up against a ruthless computer program and people.
Aaron Alexis was obviously a target. No one can prove it to the FBI.
_______
From: Robert Duncan: xxx@harvard.edu
To: seth17279: seth17279@aol.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 17, 2014 12:36 am
Subject: Re: A serious interview of targets and whisteblowers
Hello Dr. Farber,
I appreciate what you do for TIs.
I don't get involved in individual cases at all. The problem has always been a sound strategy to stop the abuse. Another problem is that these people operate above any laws and there are few skilled enough to decipher the signal intelligence impinging upon the victim. Evidence is difficult to come-by and certainly not understood by the common man that you would find in a court setting. Courts do not have the power to stop this. Public understanding and opinion could sway things but this is a long journey of education. I do what I believe can keep me out of prison and still help inform the populous.
Good luck,
R. Duncan
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Ja kuidagi veidralt pingutatud tõendid kuid ikkagi..
// eks seda lihtne kunagi reaalsemat uurida
http://www.targeted-individuals.net/2015/08/dr-robert-duncan-diploma-and-harvard-thesis.html
Like anyone who is a truth teller Robert has been attacked with attempts to discredit him(as he predicted in his book(s)). One of the biggest claims against him I see people bring up all the time is he never went to Harvard. I researched this a bit and found a picture of his diploma, as well as found this posted on a forum:
Proof of attendance at Harvard: Dr. Robert Duncan takes flack from trolls, confused TIs, the naive and clueless public, and government agents who defame and try to tear him down and one such false claim is that he isn't a Harvard attendee or Harvard graduate.
I did the search for information myself and confirmed that he did in fact attend Harvard. I looked for his dissertation, and I located his thesis on Computer Generated Holograms which he mentioned in his book, The Matrix Deciphered. Harvard lists this thesis as being available in the Harvard Gordon McKay Library and Blue Hill Meteorological Observatory Library on it's website, written by Robert P. Duncan call number CSDuncan1991, barcode 32044056580962.
"The Library provides information resources and services to support faculty research, graduate and undergraduate level instruction in the School of Engineering and Applied Sciences. Collection includes 126,393 volumes and 564 currently received journals."
On March 5th 2015 Dr. Robert Duncan uploaded a scan of one of his diploma's to Peacepink.
---
And:
" Not only that, I have Robert as a contact, and one of his personal emails is a Harvard email, which is only available to alumni.
Anyone who has the courage to speak sensitive truths in the field of alternative information is bound to be discredited by the same sources they are exposing. I am quite sure I will be further character assassinated for my own work if it gains any notable attention.
In my view Dr. Robert Duncan is a true hero, and the flack he has gotten for simply trying to help targeted individuals, and convey the truth to the public I see as wrong. In my view Dr. Robert Duncan is the best source for practical advice for TIs. His books are linked in the book section of this website. He deserves support...
To: Todd Giffen: case@oregonstatehospital.net
Sent: Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 8:50 PM
I know how angry you are. It is unlikely they will kill you but the torture sure feels like it. The real issue will be if they can get you to kill someone else or yourself. That will be your internal battle for awhile. Lowering your stress levels will slow the induction process and the rewiring of your brain. Valium helps. I wish I could say it will end well but most likely this will be your eternal battle. You are up against a ruthless computer program and people.
Aaron Alexis was obviously a target. No one can prove it to the FBI.
_______
From: Robert Duncan: xxx@harvard.edu
To: seth17279: seth17279@aol.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 17, 2014 12:36 am
Subject: Re: A serious interview of targets and whisteblowers
Hello Dr. Farber,
I appreciate what you do for TIs.
I don't get involved in individual cases at all. The problem has always been a sound strategy to stop the abuse. Another problem is that these people operate above any laws and there are few skilled enough to decipher the signal intelligence impinging upon the victim. Evidence is difficult to come-by and certainly not understood by the common man that you would find in a court setting. Courts do not have the power to stop this. Public understanding and opinion could sway things but this is a long journey of education. I do what I believe can keep me out of prison and still help inform the populous.
Good luck,
R. Duncan
-------
Ja kuidagi veidralt pingutatud tõendid kuid ikkagi..
// eks seda lihtne kunagi reaalsemat uurida
http://www.targeted-individuals.net/2015/08/dr-robert-duncan-diploma-and-harvard-thesis.html
Like anyone who is a truth teller Robert has been attacked with attempts to discredit him(as he predicted in his book(s)). One of the biggest claims against him I see people bring up all the time is he never went to Harvard. I researched this a bit and found a picture of his diploma, as well as found this posted on a forum:
Proof of attendance at Harvard: Dr. Robert Duncan takes flack from trolls, confused TIs, the naive and clueless public, and government agents who defame and try to tear him down and one such false claim is that he isn't a Harvard attendee or Harvard graduate.
I did the search for information myself and confirmed that he did in fact attend Harvard. I looked for his dissertation, and I located his thesis on Computer Generated Holograms which he mentioned in his book, The Matrix Deciphered. Harvard lists this thesis as being available in the Harvard Gordon McKay Library and Blue Hill Meteorological Observatory Library on it's website, written by Robert P. Duncan call number CSDuncan1991, barcode 32044056580962.
"The Library provides information resources and services to support faculty research, graduate and undergraduate level instruction in the School of Engineering and Applied Sciences. Collection includes 126,393 volumes and 564 currently received journals."
On March 5th 2015 Dr. Robert Duncan uploaded a scan of one of his diploma's to Peacepink.
---
And:
" Not only that, I have Robert as a contact, and one of his personal emails is a Harvard email, which is only available to alumni.
Anyone who has the courage to speak sensitive truths in the field of alternative information is bound to be discredited by the same sources they are exposing. I am quite sure I will be further character assassinated for my own work if it gains any notable attention.
In my view Dr. Robert Duncan is a true hero, and the flack he has gotten for simply trying to help targeted individuals, and convey the truth to the public I see as wrong. In my view Dr. Robert Duncan is the best source for practical advice for TIs. His books are linked in the book section of this website. He deserves support...
http://www.targeted-individuals.net/2015/08/dr-robert-duncan-diploma-and-harvard-thesis.html
12 November 2017 00:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
THere is websites like that about him:
"Dr. Robert Duncan is an Ex-CIA black project scientist who figured out they were targeting innocent people domestically and became a whistleblower. He has some great advice for targeted individuals and some great information in some areas.
This page is dedicated to information about or from Ex-CIA Engineer / Whistleblower Dr. Robert Duncan. Anyone willing to courageously blow the whistle on sources like the CIA has earned my respect "
But is He really real, Valitsuse projectid mitte ainult unenägude sisse pääsemiseks, nende muutmiseks vaid ka hinge püüdmiseks?
Olid nad metafoorilised, teadlased?
http://www.declassifieddocuments.com/2016/10/cia-engineer-dr-robert-duncan-targeted-individual-cia-whistleblower-black-project-scientist.html
Või on see sõja propakanda?
"
Dr. Robert Duncan Quotes:
“I’ve empowered the darkside by some of my work.[6]”
_______
“I’ve worked on projects for the CIA, Justice Department, Department of Defense.[6]”
_______
“Correlation does not mean causality.[1]”
_______
"...the technology for torture has advanced more than a hundred fold in recent decades.[1]"
_______
"Theres no way any agency or government could possibly admit this level of assassination and torture without a complete collapse.[1]"
_______
George Noory: “With this kind of technology that we have, why aren’t we using it? Why aren’t we pulling out these incredible devices that apparently we possess, and end this thing in a faster way, because this is a disaster over there Robert.”
Dr. Robert Duncan: “The answer’s fairly obvious, our intention is not peace. If you look back in the history of what we’ve done in the middle east, it was always disruption. … It gets much deeper than that.[2]”
_______
“There are a lot of different poisons that will not show up in forensics...[2]”
_______
“What is the next great weapon [after nukes], it is directed energy.[2]”
_______
“...information warfare unit calls ‘chasing the white rabbit’ and in their literature they talk about the war strategy of leading the enemy down fruitless paths and searches of information as far as they can go.[2]”
_______
“There’s always a hint of truth behind the disinformation.[2]”
_______
“So the public and other countries I imagine don’t investigate further or try to replicate the technology, they usually try to create a cover story or disinformation around the topic.[2]”
_______
“The reporters without borders just announced their latest rankings, that the US news is ranked 53rd in the world for free press, and that’s right in the middle of 3rd world countries…[2]”
_______
“Their techniques of disguising the way that they experiment on people have improved over 45 years quite a bit, and it relies on plausible deniability.[2]”
_______
“Psychologists … aren’t really scientists. Psychology is based on cultural norms, and any deviation from it is considered a mental illness.[2]”
_______
“It turns out there is a biological interaction at many different levels with different waveforms.[2]”
_______
“So I investigated further, and this EEG Cloning used to be called in both Russia and the US; “Psychic Warfare”. The Pentagon had a unit back in the 70s, and it’s been rolled into psychological operations and informational warfare. Traditionally it’s a mystical energy of how people can remote view and perform other tasks, well there’s an actual technology behind it. We can go into more detail, but this is real. This has been around for a while, it is a type of mind reading. … The next weapon; complete control of the enemy.[2]”
_______
“There trying to get a diverse swap of all economics, educational levels, demographics of every kind in order to improve the probability matrices of this weapons system, to control human beings. This will be the ultimate slavery of humankind.[3]”
_______
“This gets much more complicated in depth when you talk about these individuals that are very directly targeted with this weaponry, and they can control their lives, break them down, turn them into manchurian candidates. The only reason I can think of why their trying to create violent manchurian candidates like Myron May and [Aaron] Alexis and there’s been several others, is to take away gun rights. Now almost every civilization including the Nazis took away gun rights before they became totalitarian. And so i think it’s just part of the program their trying to exercise.[3]"
_______
“[Mind Control] operates at many levels, from the individual (understanding the individual mind). The brain has been deciphered (behavior modification). You are correct in saying this has been explored at least since [the] 1950s if not much earlier…[4]”
_______
“… on a project called mkultra. You can read about this on the internet, it’s all documented; that the CIA was performing mind control experiments on innocent civilians throughout the United States and probably other places in the world. They claimed they shut it down and this is simply untrue, it just went underground. And the national security password is used constantly so that the public cannot know that this is going on. This is really domestic terrorism…[4]”
_______
“I’ve been trying to expose this since 2002 I would say, I’ve been in the field for over a decade just trying to expose these technologies. But they’ve existed much before me and when I worked on them. I can find targeted individuals as far as … from 1976 there seems to be a large increase in targeted individuals using this technology. And then again every time the military gets a bigger budget there seems to be more TIs involved. And of course after 9-11 there was a whole bunch of TIs that were brought into this program.[5]”
_______
"It is insane what our government is doing.[5]"
_______
“This truly is the most sophisticated weapons system humanity has ever created, it involves every aspect of science…[7]”
"Dr. Robert Duncan is an Ex-CIA black project scientist who figured out they were targeting innocent people domestically and became a whistleblower. He has some great advice for targeted individuals and some great information in some areas.
This page is dedicated to information about or from Ex-CIA Engineer / Whistleblower Dr. Robert Duncan. Anyone willing to courageously blow the whistle on sources like the CIA has earned my respect "
But is He really real, Valitsuse projectid mitte ainult unenägude sisse pääsemiseks, nende muutmiseks vaid ka hinge püüdmiseks?
Olid nad metafoorilised, teadlased?
http://www.declassifieddocuments.com/2016/10/cia-engineer-dr-robert-duncan-targeted-individual-cia-whistleblower-black-project-scientist.html
Või on see sõja propakanda?
"
Dr. Robert Duncan Quotes:
“I’ve empowered the darkside by some of my work.[6]”
_______
“I’ve worked on projects for the CIA, Justice Department, Department of Defense.[6]”
_______
“Correlation does not mean causality.[1]”
_______
"...the technology for torture has advanced more than a hundred fold in recent decades.[1]"
_______
"Theres no way any agency or government could possibly admit this level of assassination and torture without a complete collapse.[1]"
_______
George Noory: “With this kind of technology that we have, why aren’t we using it? Why aren’t we pulling out these incredible devices that apparently we possess, and end this thing in a faster way, because this is a disaster over there Robert.”
Dr. Robert Duncan: “The answer’s fairly obvious, our intention is not peace. If you look back in the history of what we’ve done in the middle east, it was always disruption. … It gets much deeper than that.[2]”
_______
“There are a lot of different poisons that will not show up in forensics...[2]”
_______
“What is the next great weapon [after nukes], it is directed energy.[2]”
_______
“...information warfare unit calls ‘chasing the white rabbit’ and in their literature they talk about the war strategy of leading the enemy down fruitless paths and searches of information as far as they can go.[2]”
_______
“There’s always a hint of truth behind the disinformation.[2]”
_______
“So the public and other countries I imagine don’t investigate further or try to replicate the technology, they usually try to create a cover story or disinformation around the topic.[2]”
_______
“The reporters without borders just announced their latest rankings, that the US news is ranked 53rd in the world for free press, and that’s right in the middle of 3rd world countries…[2]”
_______
“Their techniques of disguising the way that they experiment on people have improved over 45 years quite a bit, and it relies on plausible deniability.[2]”
_______
“Psychologists … aren’t really scientists. Psychology is based on cultural norms, and any deviation from it is considered a mental illness.[2]”
_______
“It turns out there is a biological interaction at many different levels with different waveforms.[2]”
_______
“So I investigated further, and this EEG Cloning used to be called in both Russia and the US; “Psychic Warfare”. The Pentagon had a unit back in the 70s, and it’s been rolled into psychological operations and informational warfare. Traditionally it’s a mystical energy of how people can remote view and perform other tasks, well there’s an actual technology behind it. We can go into more detail, but this is real. This has been around for a while, it is a type of mind reading. … The next weapon; complete control of the enemy.[2]”
_______
“There trying to get a diverse swap of all economics, educational levels, demographics of every kind in order to improve the probability matrices of this weapons system, to control human beings. This will be the ultimate slavery of humankind.[3]”
_______
“This gets much more complicated in depth when you talk about these individuals that are very directly targeted with this weaponry, and they can control their lives, break them down, turn them into manchurian candidates. The only reason I can think of why their trying to create violent manchurian candidates like Myron May and [Aaron] Alexis and there’s been several others, is to take away gun rights. Now almost every civilization including the Nazis took away gun rights before they became totalitarian. And so i think it’s just part of the program their trying to exercise.[3]"
_______
“[Mind Control] operates at many levels, from the individual (understanding the individual mind). The brain has been deciphered (behavior modification). You are correct in saying this has been explored at least since [the] 1950s if not much earlier…[4]”
_______
“… on a project called mkultra. You can read about this on the internet, it’s all documented; that the CIA was performing mind control experiments on innocent civilians throughout the United States and probably other places in the world. They claimed they shut it down and this is simply untrue, it just went underground. And the national security password is used constantly so that the public cannot know that this is going on. This is really domestic terrorism…[4]”
_______
“I’ve been trying to expose this since 2002 I would say, I’ve been in the field for over a decade just trying to expose these technologies. But they’ve existed much before me and when I worked on them. I can find targeted individuals as far as … from 1976 there seems to be a large increase in targeted individuals using this technology. And then again every time the military gets a bigger budget there seems to be more TIs involved. And of course after 9-11 there was a whole bunch of TIs that were brought into this program.[5]”
_______
"It is insane what our government is doing.[5]"
_______
“This truly is the most sophisticated weapons system humanity has ever created, it involves every aspect of science…[7]”
12 November 2017 00:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Some magazines...
http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/MacyICCF18.pdf
But not satisfied proofs about
http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/MacyICCF18.pdf
But not satisfied proofs about
12 November 2017 00:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
between cheesy looking information, sometimes these pages have some great information even if links are non alive anymore
http://www.myronmaysflashdrive.com/
http://www.myronmaysflashdrive.com/
http://www.myronmaysflashdrive.com/
12 November 2017 00:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
psychical evidence, and people names list to organize by rank of adequate :
"Do we want to tell the people Neuroweapons, Neurotechnologies, Directed-Energy Weapons, Nanotechnology and Artificial Intelligence Networks, Mind Cloning, and Mind Hiving are being tested by DARPA and the CIA, especially on activists, writers, whistleblowers, community leaders, and random, innocent people—but really, on every single citizen, on the whole mass of humanity - or do we want to protect the neuro-experimentation, the neuro-experimenters, and the controllers behind them?
Are we trying to ramp up the market for new psychiatric drugs and get some community support for this rollout of mass mental illness or not? Untreated illness, psychotic symptoms, need for community interventions—see it now?
Do we want to open Pandora's box and unleash a storm of outrage from the entire country over targeting, torture, and non-consensual human experimentation, mind-reading technology and brain-influencing EMFs, brain entrainment, or do we want to call these people psychotic?
There's a whistleblower, Karen Stewart, from the NSA speaking out about NSA, FBI, and US Naval Security using directed-energy weapons to electronically harass and torture her. There's a young Naval officer, David Voigts, walking across the country to raise awareness about illegal human neuro-experimentation and weapons testing he learned about while in the Navy.
There's a doctor, Dr. John Hall, writing books on Satellite Terrorism, about MK ULTRA, histories of ELF technologies, and patents which prove remote influencing of the brain, transmittal of voices in the head, and more. There are books, videos, articles, groups online documenting their experiences. There's a writer Rosanne Schneider, who's collected research on technologies, patents, articles on Torture, Experimentation, and Surveillance.
There's Aaron Alexis, the US Navy Yard shooter, who complained of ELF harassment before he went on his shooting spree. There's Myron May, ex District Attorney, the FSU shooter, who said he was stalked, harassed, and heard voices.
There's an international group of scientists and investigators setting up an annual Covert Harassment conference. There's the Richmond County Council which recently voted to outlaw the use of space weapons on residents. There's a civil engineer in California, Massie Munroe, running for US Senate, whose stated platform priorities include ending Electronic Harassment. There's John McAfee, a Presidential candidate, gearing to build a firewall for the mind.
There's several who have opened lawsuits and documented removal of radio-frequency emitting implants from their bodies. There are SCADA, and RFID detection, and toxicology tests that can prove these people are filled up with RFID implants, and microtechnology or nanotechnology transceivers. There are spectral analyzers which can detect and record directive frequencies in their homes. This is physical evidence.
"Do we want to tell the people Neuroweapons, Neurotechnologies, Directed-Energy Weapons, Nanotechnology and Artificial Intelligence Networks, Mind Cloning, and Mind Hiving are being tested by DARPA and the CIA, especially on activists, writers, whistleblowers, community leaders, and random, innocent people—but really, on every single citizen, on the whole mass of humanity - or do we want to protect the neuro-experimentation, the neuro-experimenters, and the controllers behind them?
Are we trying to ramp up the market for new psychiatric drugs and get some community support for this rollout of mass mental illness or not? Untreated illness, psychotic symptoms, need for community interventions—see it now?
Do we want to open Pandora's box and unleash a storm of outrage from the entire country over targeting, torture, and non-consensual human experimentation, mind-reading technology and brain-influencing EMFs, brain entrainment, or do we want to call these people psychotic?
There's a whistleblower, Karen Stewart, from the NSA speaking out about NSA, FBI, and US Naval Security using directed-energy weapons to electronically harass and torture her. There's a young Naval officer, David Voigts, walking across the country to raise awareness about illegal human neuro-experimentation and weapons testing he learned about while in the Navy.
There's a doctor, Dr. John Hall, writing books on Satellite Terrorism, about MK ULTRA, histories of ELF technologies, and patents which prove remote influencing of the brain, transmittal of voices in the head, and more. There are books, videos, articles, groups online documenting their experiences. There's a writer Rosanne Schneider, who's collected research on technologies, patents, articles on Torture, Experimentation, and Surveillance.
There's Aaron Alexis, the US Navy Yard shooter, who complained of ELF harassment before he went on his shooting spree. There's Myron May, ex District Attorney, the FSU shooter, who said he was stalked, harassed, and heard voices.
There's an international group of scientists and investigators setting up an annual Covert Harassment conference. There's the Richmond County Council which recently voted to outlaw the use of space weapons on residents. There's a civil engineer in California, Massie Munroe, running for US Senate, whose stated platform priorities include ending Electronic Harassment. There's John McAfee, a Presidential candidate, gearing to build a firewall for the mind.
There's several who have opened lawsuits and documented removal of radio-frequency emitting implants from their bodies. There are SCADA, and RFID detection, and toxicology tests that can prove these people are filled up with RFID implants, and microtechnology or nanotechnology transceivers. There are spectral analyzers which can detect and record directive frequencies in their homes. This is physical evidence.
12 November 2017 00:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nüüd muidugi vaja välja uurida kas ta PÄriselt Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency - DARPA, ja kaks eri lehte teha üks nende jaoks kes ütlevad , et on ja teised need, kes on teada, et on
Koos lisa infoga.
"Dr. Barrie Trower, a microwave weapons expert who worked for the UK Navy, has spoken extensively about microwave weaponry including V2K, or Voice to Skull technologies, which put voices into people's heads via EMFs. Dr. Richard Alan Miller, a M.I.T-educated US Navy Intel scientist, has stated he helped develop V2K or Synthetic Telepathy.
Sample:
" That's not what you want to start off with. Find someone you can paint delusional. Find someone to call mentally ill. Have someone call him very, very sad.
Say, nobody believes him. Say, his own mother begs him to swallow anti-psychotics and neuroleptics and mind-foggers to get over his sickness. Say he says he can hear voices in his head. Say he's lost his job, his friends, his life, thanks to his delusions. Say he calls himself a Targeted Individual.
Then segue to a bunch of people and say they all call themselves Targeted Individuals. Make sure to say "They say" "They believe" "They Claim" "They see conspiracies" "They hear voices". Say these are sick people. Very sick people. Sad, very sad.
Grasp that bull firmly by the horns. Mention Mind Control Weapons. Mention armies. Mention sprawling conspiracies, say these people are lost inside their heads chasing them. "
End of sample.
But there are contracts out currently with Defense and US Air Force contractors such as General Dynamics testing Bio-Behavioral Effects of Directed Energy Weapons. These weapons use pulsed microwaves, high powered microwaves, millimeter waves, lasers, masers, ultrasonics, hypersonics. There are low-flying Electronic Warfare planes continually flying into and circling certain neighborhoods. There are hundreds of mind-control technology patents and DARPA brain-control research projects. There are Memos of Understanding permitting DOJ and DOD to work together to develop classified non-lethal weapons for use in communities.
Lehti leiab aga ametlike..
https://www.sott.net/article/320547-United-States-of-psy-ops-Just-call-the-victims-paranoid-and-delusional
Koos lisa infoga.
"Dr. Barrie Trower, a microwave weapons expert who worked for the UK Navy, has spoken extensively about microwave weaponry including V2K, or Voice to Skull technologies, which put voices into people's heads via EMFs. Dr. Richard Alan Miller, a M.I.T-educated US Navy Intel scientist, has stated he helped develop V2K or Synthetic Telepathy.
Sample:
" That's not what you want to start off with. Find someone you can paint delusional. Find someone to call mentally ill. Have someone call him very, very sad.
Say, nobody believes him. Say, his own mother begs him to swallow anti-psychotics and neuroleptics and mind-foggers to get over his sickness. Say he says he can hear voices in his head. Say he's lost his job, his friends, his life, thanks to his delusions. Say he calls himself a Targeted Individual.
Then segue to a bunch of people and say they all call themselves Targeted Individuals. Make sure to say "They say" "They believe" "They Claim" "They see conspiracies" "They hear voices". Say these are sick people. Very sick people. Sad, very sad.
Grasp that bull firmly by the horns. Mention Mind Control Weapons. Mention armies. Mention sprawling conspiracies, say these people are lost inside their heads chasing them. "
End of sample.
But there are contracts out currently with Defense and US Air Force contractors such as General Dynamics testing Bio-Behavioral Effects of Directed Energy Weapons. These weapons use pulsed microwaves, high powered microwaves, millimeter waves, lasers, masers, ultrasonics, hypersonics. There are low-flying Electronic Warfare planes continually flying into and circling certain neighborhoods. There are hundreds of mind-control technology patents and DARPA brain-control research projects. There are Memos of Understanding permitting DOJ and DOD to work together to develop classified non-lethal weapons for use in communities.
Lehti leiab aga ametlike..
https://www.sott.net/article/320547-United-States-of-psy-ops-Just-call-the-victims-paranoid-and-delusional
https://www.sott.net/article/320547-United-States-of-psy-ops-Just-call-the-victims-paranoid-and-delusional
12 November 2017 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Intelligent Systems of Truth Control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgPuZpbK5M8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgPuZpbK5M8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgPuZpbK5M8
11 November 2017 23:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 November 2017 23:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 November 2017 23:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 November 2017 23:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 November 2017 23:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
11 November 2017 23:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Not so much on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7S8b91Rsfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7S8b91Rsfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7S8b91Rsfw
11 November 2017 23:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Just
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eS17F7nuTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eS17F7nuTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eS17F7nuTM
11 November 2017 23:11
Margus Meigo replied to Elver Loho's comment.
eks seda kindlasti, ka kaasnev tegur, kuigi plaanitud oli see ka ilma netita
11 November 2017 21:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(võib ka panna selgitused juurde, et miks.. mõtlen just enda top 50 ne projecti kogusumma peale, ja vaatan mida head saaks paremaks täiendada)
// põhiprjekt ise, et selle kogusumma enda ellu toomine, kus üle 50 ne elusa osa, mida elus vaja, paremaks teha ja instruktsioon kuidas kindlasti saab paremaks, suht soodsast kuni kallini ja praegused eraldi alternatiiv lahendused, sellele asjale kaasa aitamiseks,
vs siis mis see lõpplahendus on, et kui lihtsamaks teeb,
Vot selle proovin panna inimlikku keelde, et siis angel investoritele arusaadav olla
// põhiprjekt ise, et selle kogusumma enda ellu toomine, kus üle 50 ne elusa osa, mida elus vaja, paremaks teha ja instruktsioon kuidas kindlasti saab paremaks, suht soodsast kuni kallini ja praegused eraldi alternatiiv lahendused, sellele asjale kaasa aitamiseks,
vs siis mis see lõpplahendus on, et kui lihtsamaks teeb,
Vot selle proovin panna inimlikku keelde, et siis angel investoritele arusaadav olla
11 November 2017 17:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
NU Taavi Timm & Toomas Sirge, te kaks elusat? : )
Mis te lemmik interneti kohad/grupid on ?
Mis te lemmik interneti kohad/grupid on ?
11 November 2017 16:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ise veel otsin elukohta ka oma tegudes kui need edukaltVaimsed olema hakkavad, Normaalsuse paika sättimiseks
10 November 2017 23:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
elukaaslane naine ka ütles, et sobib
10 November 2017 23:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siin LinnaValitsuse ligidal
10 November 2017 23:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Teemadel kas midagi veel on püha kuni Hingeni mis armastuse eest maksta tuleb, siin ilmas mõnel
10 November 2017 22:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
teemal "mida vanaemasi ees ootab"
http://www.ylikool.ee/et/13/ly_seppelehin
http://www.ylikool.ee/et/13/ly_seppelehin
http://www.ylikool.ee/et/13/ly_seppelehin
10 November 2017 20:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See tundub kindlasti olema hea:
http://heli.er.ee/helid/oy/OY2016_Ly_Seppel-Ehin_Laps_ja_lill_lammas_ja_legonindzagod.mp3
tõsine jutt mida kuulata, juba luuletuste pärast audio alguses on väärt
http://heli.er.ee/helid/oy/OY2016_Ly_Seppel-Ehin_Laps_ja_lill_lammas_ja_legonindzagod.mp3
tõsine jutt mida kuulata, juba luuletuste pärast audio alguses on väärt
http://heli.er.ee/helid/oy/OY2016_Ly_Seppel-Ehin_Laps_ja_lill_lammas_ja_legonindzagod.mp3
10 November 2017 20:18
Margus Meigo replied to Marge Karin's comment.
ilmar oli ju üks trooperitest kes käis seda tšernobõli asja korda aitamas teha to kord?
10 November 2017 19:43
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgFuqgnNZeY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgFuqgnNZeY
10 November 2017 19:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vajaliku lahendusena on ka lisa, ekstra front end kiht YT ile mille sisu siis keeltõlgitav ja tuunitav, otse linkidena listidele jms
10 November 2017 19:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Pikem ühes mängiv list:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efTgGV5U7lo&list=RDefTgGV5U7lo&t=4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efTgGV5U7lo&list=RDefTgGV5U7lo&t=4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efTgGV5U7lo&list=RDefTgGV5U7lo&t=4
10 November 2017 19:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 November 2017 19:10
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10 November 2017 18:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// Eelmise pildi sisu, 3 x AY ära tunnetamise treeninguks
10 November 2017 17:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 November 2017 17:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// Vihje ja märge sellele, kes YT kauged, et praegu linnu videod korralikult ilma inimlarfideta annab välja, enamus otsingute seotud videodes, aga alati mingi kombineeritud ja produtseeritud või lärmakad videod on enamuses
10 November 2017 14:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mis iganes sina arvad see olema, lase tal olla, ja kui vaja siis eriti tagasihoidlikusega juurde rääkida,
nii et on tunnetada vaikus,
kuid muidu ainuüksi enda hääle tegemine, kolmandast vaatvinklist, mitte loodus osana,
juba hakkab selle helis mis tuleb , sätteid sättima enamsute peas,
et kui sügavalt keegi kuulata saab ja aegalselt tunnetada, et mis see on mis mängib.
Igatahes, eesti looduse tundiseid audioid, netis küll ja veel, aga miks süsteemid nii ibrad, küsivad vanavanemad?
Teeme siis paremad
nii et on tunnetada vaikus,
kuid muidu ainuüksi enda hääle tegemine, kolmandast vaatvinklist, mitte loodus osana,
juba hakkab selle helis mis tuleb , sätteid sättima enamsute peas,
et kui sügavalt keegi kuulata saab ja aegalselt tunnetada, et mis see on mis mängib.
Igatahes, eesti looduse tundiseid audioid, netis küll ja veel, aga miks süsteemid nii ibrad, küsivad vanavanemad?
Teeme siis paremad
10 November 2017 14:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja Eelkõige Eestlastele teada,
et siis Sa ka Looduslastele silma jääd ja muu maa vähestele pärisinimestele,
Nu seniks kuni spummarid selle augu üles leiavad, mida nad risustanud veel pole ja ladina-linnukeelset seotust jms ka oma muude promo ja lärmikate videodega solkima hakkavad, ise vahele rääkides , liialt videodele ja liigse energilisusega, loodusrütmil ikka tuleb olla lasta, omas taktis
et siis Sa ka Looduslastele silma jääd ja muu maa vähestele pärisinimestele,
Nu seniks kuni spummarid selle augu üles leiavad, mida nad risustanud veel pole ja ladina-linnukeelset seotust jms ka oma muude promo ja lärmikate videodega solkima hakkavad, ise vahele rääkides , liialt videodele ja liigse energilisusega, loodusrütmil ikka tuleb olla lasta, omas taktis
10 November 2017 14:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
selles mõttes tuleb nemodi timmida vajalikuse poole, ja vaadata mis sõna ebameeldivusi toob ja mis vajalikku,
ehk pole inim järelvaate all veel isikuliselt need otsingud vaid osene puhas robot mis vaikselt tõistes inimsilmalegi silma ei jää kuni meie keelsetele otsingutele vajalikud vasted tulema hakkavad,
valeEestlastega ka läbirääkimisi, et nad enam "Taskulambi" jms hullemate videodega eriti ei säraks, enne kui muud Youtube järgijõudnud on, muidu riigi solvamine, kultuurihävitus, näkku sülitamine kodumaale.
Kuid ladina ja Eestikeelega , kohe peale värsket üleslaadimist, tueb hea tulemus:
ehk pole inim järelvaate all veel isikuliselt need otsingud vaid osene puhas robot mis vaikselt tõistes inimsilmalegi silma ei jää kuni meie keelsetele otsingutele vajalikud vasted tulema hakkavad,
valeEestlastega ka läbirääkimisi, et nad enam "Taskulambi" jms hullemate videodega eriti ei säraks, enne kui muud Youtube järgijõudnud on, muidu riigi solvamine, kultuurihävitus, näkku sülitamine kodumaale.
Kuid ladina ja Eestikeelega , kohe peale värsket üleslaadimist, tueb hea tulemus:
10 November 2017 14:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aga tänu sellele, et panin ladinakeelsed nimed taha ja ainukesed muud nimed olid robotile tundmatud ja kultuuri omad mille sõnu ei promota, siis võttis ja pani linnud ilusti seotud videodesse:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB4Oq1iB2Ew&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB4Oq1iB2Ew&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB4Oq1iB2Ew&feature=youtu.be
10 November 2017 14:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 November 2017 14:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 November 2017 14:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja ainukesed Eestikeelsed videod mis säält paistavad.. nende eest ainuüksi saab Estonia / Eesti Vabariik 100 selle karuaabitsa kohtusse anda ja Hiinlased arusaadav, kui SELLINE kultuuri solvav tase, siis keelatakse ka mujal see varsti,
Tähestik, (Google Ema-firma nimi on nüüd ' AlbhaBet ' ing keeles: tähestik )
kuula hoolega, Muutu või muutume koos Sinuga
Tähestik, (Google Ema-firma nimi on nüüd ' AlbhaBet ' ing keeles: tähestik )
kuula hoolega, Muutu või muutume koos Sinuga
10 November 2017 14:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
YT ise on aga MAAILMA kuulsaimate ja suurima Video lehtede hulgas planeedi (lähi) ajaloos, kuid kui pole endale eelistusi pannud, siis valib sulle "suvaliselt" selliseid välja:
"Peeretav vanaema relvaga ratastoolist tulistamas" taolisi ja kes teab mida kohutavat veel sinna võib sattuda, ESIMESTE, Suurima austusväärsusega Videoportaali algsete soovituste seas, hulgas, MIKS ?
"Peeretav vanaema relvaga ratastoolist tulistamas" taolisi ja kes teab mida kohutavat veel sinna võib sattuda, ESIMESTE, Suurima austusväärsusega Videoportaali algsete soovituste seas, hulgas, MIKS ?
10 November 2017 14:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ahh.. oleks pidanud video pealkirja sisse, koheselt #Loodushelid kirjutama
10 November 2017 14:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Okey kiiruga tegin ühe... kuigi selle teenuse peaks keerama paremaks, ise endale vabama piirangutega sama asi tehagi vähemasti:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB4Oq1iB2Ew&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB4Oq1iB2Ew&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB4Oq1iB2Ew&feature=youtu.be
10 November 2017 14:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
/ Kui soovin ASIA Naturet siis seda ka otsin /
10 November 2017 14:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ütleks mu ema
10 November 2017 14:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ReinForest ja DeepSea in Asia ei oel asjad, mida ma näha soovin, kui EESTI loodust otsin.
10 November 2017 14:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja veel korra lahku kirjeldatult, et eesti videod ehk ettepoole toob... kui sedasi otsida, see poleks ju Erisuur tarkus rakendada, kui neid OMA kultuuri poole soovitksid saata, algorytmis eelistus teha... aga kui lamendada soovib.... ja veel salakavalalt.. .siis sedasi jah...
Muidugi eks eestlased ise ka süüdi, et ei ole suvatsenud sellele liialt röhku panna ise sellepeale tulles, et keegi poel sellepeale tulnud ja korda sättinud asja veel
Muidugi eks eestlased ise ka süüdi, et ei ole suvatsenud sellele liialt röhku panna ise sellepeale tulles, et keegi poel sellepeale tulnud ja korda sättinud asja veel
10 November 2017 14:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 November 2017 14:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.loodusheli.ee/ET/loomaliigid/linnud/
http://www.loodusheli.ee/ET/loomaliigid/linnud/
10 November 2017 14:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vs
10 November 2017 14:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
10 November 2017 14:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ilma inimshamaanideta, ja inimtarkuseta need robotid oleks ammu meidendeid koos kõigega ära põletanud.
10 November 2017 14:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"IRSN välistas õnnetuse tuumareaktoriga, kuna see oleks toonud kaasa aine segunemise muude ühenditega. Lisaks välistati ka õnnetus ruteeniumi jõul töötava satelliidiga, millest ükski ei ole teadaolevalt Maa atmosfääri uuesti sisenenud.
Enamikus Euroopa riikides tehtud mõõtmised näitasid septembri lõpus ja oktoobri alguses atmosfääris kõrget ruteenium 106 taset, mis hakkas alates 6. oktoobrist vähenema.
Tuumainstituudi teatel ei ole atmosfäärist leitud ruteeniumi kogused inimeste tervisele ega keskkonnale ohuks."
:D
Enamikus Euroopa riikides tehtud mõõtmised näitasid septembri lõpus ja oktoobri alguses atmosfääris kõrget ruteenium 106 taset, mis hakkas alates 6. oktoobrist vähenema.
Tuumainstituudi teatel ei ole atmosfäärist leitud ruteeniumi kogused inimeste tervisele ega keskkonnale ohuks."
:D
10 November 2017 14:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Peresi sõnul on ka teised tuumaohutusinstituudid viimaste nädalate jooksul mõõtnud Euroopas kõrgeid ruteenium 106 näitajaid. Tegu on radioaktiivse ühendiga, mida ei esine looduses ning mis tekib vaid tuumareaktoris aatomituuma lõhustamisel.
IRSNi hinnangul oli vabastatud ruteeniumi hulk suur – 100–300 terabekrelli. Kui säärane õnnetus oleks Prantsusmaal aset leidnud, oleks selle tagajärjel tulnud evakueerida kõik elanikud mitme kilomeetri raadiuses.
Ruteenium 106 paisati atmosfääri tõenäoliselt tuumajäätmete käitlemise objektilt või radiomeditsiini keskusest."
IRSNi hinnangul oli vabastatud ruteeniumi hulk suur – 100–300 terabekrelli. Kui säärane õnnetus oleks Prantsusmaal aset leidnud, oleks selle tagajärjel tulnud evakueerida kõik elanikud mitme kilomeetri raadiuses.
Ruteenium 106 paisati atmosfääri tõenäoliselt tuumajäätmete käitlemise objektilt või radiomeditsiini keskusest."
10 November 2017 14:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://maailm.postimees.ee/4305827/teadlased-venemaal-toimus-hiljuti-tuumaonnetus?utm_source=pm&utm_medium=wallpost&utm_content=4305827
https://maailm.postimees.ee/4305827/teadlased-venemaal-toimus-hiljuti-tuumaonnetus?utm_source=pm&utm_medium=wallpost&utm_content=4305827
https://maailm.postimees.ee/4305827/teadlased-venemaal-toimus-hiljuti-tuumaonnetus?utm_source=pm&utm_medium=wallpost&utm_content=4305827
10 November 2017 14:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
9 November 2017 20:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
no..
prudentia.auckland.ac.nz/index.php/prudentia/article/download/766/722
still not..
http://booksandjournals.brillonline.com/content/journals/10.1163/22141332-00203004
prudentia.auckland.ac.nz/index.php/prudentia/article/download/766/722
still not..
http://booksandjournals.brillonline.com/content/journals/10.1163/22141332-00203004
9 November 2017 15:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hmm...
"Aristotle’s megalopsychia is not just about a proper estimation of one’s worth or desire for honor, for that
pertains to the proper desire of (small) honors too. He says, “honor may be desired (orexei) more than is right, or
less, or from the right sources and in the right way. We blame both the ambitious man (philotimon) as aiming at
honor (timês) more than is right and from wrong sources, and the unambitious man as not willing to be honored even
for noble (epi tois kalois) reasons.”5 And, “he who is worthy of little (micrôn axios) and thinks himself worthy of
little is temperate (sôphrôn), but not proud; for pride implies greatness (en megethei), as beauty implies a good-sized
body, and little people (hoi microi) may be neat and well-proportioned (sumetroi) but cannot be beautiful.”6 Instead
of just the proper estimation of one’s worth or the desire for honor, both of which apply to small honors,
megalopsychia is about great things. The greatest thing that the megalopsychos could claim for his noble deeds is the
external good of (great) honor. To be worthy of great honor, the megalopsychos must be completely good. As
Aristotle puts it, “the truly proud man (alêtheia megalopsychon) must be good” and “it is hard to be truly proud; for
it is impossible without nobility and goodness of character (kalokagathias).” 7
The megalopsychos possesses the highest virtue for which he is honored. He has the qualities like courage,
generosity, justice, truthfulness, wisdom and the rest of the Aristotelian virtues since Aristotle links his great desert
to his possession of complete virtue.8 Aristotle characterizes his megalopsychos as one who “does not run into trivial
dangers, nor is he fond of danger because he honors few things; but he will face great dangers, and when he is in
danger he is unsparing of his life, knowing that there are conditions on which life is not worth having.”9 The
reference in this passage to the proud man’s not running into little dangers and his not being fond of dangers is
controversial for Aristotelian commentators. It is of a piece with this passage:
it is characteristic of the proud man not to aim at the things commonly held in honor (entima), or
the things in which others excel; to be sluggish and to hold back except where great honor or a
great work is at stake, and to be a man of few deeds, but of great and notable ones (megalôn kai..:"
// Aaaahhhh argh, still searching the word,,,'
http://orb.binghamton.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1379&context=sagp
"Aristotle’s megalopsychia is not just about a proper estimation of one’s worth or desire for honor, for that
pertains to the proper desire of (small) honors too. He says, “honor may be desired (orexei) more than is right, or
less, or from the right sources and in the right way. We blame both the ambitious man (philotimon) as aiming at
honor (timês) more than is right and from wrong sources, and the unambitious man as not willing to be honored even
for noble (epi tois kalois) reasons.”5 And, “he who is worthy of little (micrôn axios) and thinks himself worthy of
little is temperate (sôphrôn), but not proud; for pride implies greatness (en megethei), as beauty implies a good-sized
body, and little people (hoi microi) may be neat and well-proportioned (sumetroi) but cannot be beautiful.”6 Instead
of just the proper estimation of one’s worth or the desire for honor, both of which apply to small honors,
megalopsychia is about great things. The greatest thing that the megalopsychos could claim for his noble deeds is the
external good of (great) honor. To be worthy of great honor, the megalopsychos must be completely good. As
Aristotle puts it, “the truly proud man (alêtheia megalopsychon) must be good” and “it is hard to be truly proud; for
it is impossible without nobility and goodness of character (kalokagathias).” 7
The megalopsychos possesses the highest virtue for which he is honored. He has the qualities like courage,
generosity, justice, truthfulness, wisdom and the rest of the Aristotelian virtues since Aristotle links his great desert
to his possession of complete virtue.8 Aristotle characterizes his megalopsychos as one who “does not run into trivial
dangers, nor is he fond of danger because he honors few things; but he will face great dangers, and when he is in
danger he is unsparing of his life, knowing that there are conditions on which life is not worth having.”9 The
reference in this passage to the proud man’s not running into little dangers and his not being fond of dangers is
controversial for Aristotelian commentators. It is of a piece with this passage:
it is characteristic of the proud man not to aim at the things commonly held in honor (entima), or
the things in which others excel; to be sluggish and to hold back except where great honor or a
great work is at stake, and to be a man of few deeds, but of great and notable ones (megalôn kai..:"
// Aaaahhhh argh, still searching the word,,,'
http://orb.binghamton.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1379&context=sagp
9 November 2017 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ikka seda teist sõnapaari ei leia...
"...My thesis is that Aristotle describes
the megalopsychos as a man basically concerned
with enhancing the nobility of his soul through
a life of moral action. This means that the
megalopsychos is: a) a practikos and b) that he
is basically concerned— not with externally
bestowed honor— but with his internal sense of
honor.
The crucial point is that the megalopsychos
is primarily concerned with his inner
nobility, not with externally bestowed honor.
Surface appearances seem to contradict this;"
http://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3241&context=gc_etds
"...My thesis is that Aristotle describes
the megalopsychos as a man basically concerned
with enhancing the nobility of his soul through
a life of moral action. This means that the
megalopsychos is: a) a practikos and b) that he
is basically concerned— not with externally
bestowed honor— but with his internal sense of
honor.
The crucial point is that the megalopsychos
is primarily concerned with his inner
nobility, not with externally bestowed honor.
Surface appearances seem to contradict this;"
http://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3241&context=gc_etds
9 November 2017 15:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siin ka hea kuulata:
http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/mp3/elektrikarjane/2017/New1.php?failinimi=170206_Inimese_loomine_ja_loomus_ReinOunapuu.mp3
http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3513%3Aelektrikarjane-2017&catid=127%3Aelektrikarjane&Itemid=1
http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/mp3/elektrikarjane/2017/New1.php?failinimi=170206_Inimese_loomine_ja_loomus_ReinOunapuu.mp3
http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3513%3Aelektrikarjane-2017&catid=127%3Aelektrikarjane&Itemid=1
9 November 2017 13:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Just to tune in
https://opencatalog.darpa.mil/
https://www.darpa.mil/work-with-us/darpa-open-catalog
https://opencatalog.darpa.mil/
https://www.darpa.mil/work-with-us/darpa-open-catalog
9 November 2017 12:56
Margus Meigo commented on Raiko Aeaero's post.
Mis jõud see siis on kes väikelapsi retsib ja naisi ja loodust..
9 November 2017 12:34
Margus Meigo replied to Viljar Vahemaa's comment.
tänapäeval küll jah
see veider koht kuhu jõudnud oleme
see veider koht kuhu jõudnud oleme
9 November 2017 12:31
Margus Meigo commented on Raiko Aeaero's photo.
Ei näe, et keegi alkoholi keelema hakkaks
9 November 2017 12:30
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Lepp's comment.
Raiko Aeaero aus tuleb alati olla,
Kuid naeratuse paneb heatahlikult näole ikka sellist tagasisisde lugedes Raiko
Päris päris murelikuse leevendamiseks, tasub kohe otse kirjutada ja küsida ikka, et mis abi ja kuidas pakkuda saad teiste elutöödele kaasaaitamiseks
Kuid naeratuse paneb heatahlikult näole ikka sellist tagasisisde lugedes Raiko
Päris päris murelikuse leevendamiseks, tasub kohe otse kirjutada ja küsida ikka, et mis abi ja kuidas pakkuda saad teiste elutöödele kaasaaitamiseks
9 November 2017 12:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
okey.. vast kui viimaseid uudiseid lugeda, siis füüsilised maakera toimimise korrapärad vast jah ja ühte tiest aga moraali osas, mis inimloomingut puutub ja jumalaaustamist, siis see kui, siis ainult veel peenemaks ja hellemaks muutunud, tarkuses ausamaks ja kerguses selgemaks
9 November 2017 12:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see 420 kildi laiuse, mis Eestistki laiem jõgi.. jõi kõrvu kumisema
9 November 2017 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
What kind of ...
http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/2572/pg2572-images.html
Ruler would say so:
" Therefore, the wise thing is for us diligently to train ourselves to lie thoughtfully, judiciously; to lie with a good object, and not an evil one; to lie for others' advantage, and not our own; to lie healingly, charitably, humanely, not cruelly, hurtfully, maliciously; to lie gracefully and graciously, not awkwardly and clumsily; to lie firmly, frankly, squarely, with head erect, not haltingly, tortuously, with pusillanimous mien, as being ashamed of our high calling.
Related terms * pusillanimously * pusillanimousness
// what about directing in direction to talk as needed
http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/2572/pg2572-images.html
Ruler would say so:
" Therefore, the wise thing is for us diligently to train ourselves to lie thoughtfully, judiciously; to lie with a good object, and not an evil one; to lie for others' advantage, and not our own; to lie healingly, charitably, humanely, not cruelly, hurtfully, maliciously; to lie gracefully and graciously, not awkwardly and clumsily; to lie firmly, frankly, squarely, with head erect, not haltingly, tortuously, with pusillanimous mien, as being ashamed of our high calling.
Related terms * pusillanimously * pusillanimousness
// what about directing in direction to talk as needed
9 November 2017 04:27
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
www.icefire.ee/ ; (
http://www.icefire.ee/
9 November 2017 04:17
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Will stay calm : )
// Time is great!
/ Anu-Näkkid ;)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/154851627919165/
Ideology part still is usable, as long it is well managed, it is one form, meant to be used, directing people in to experiences they need, ()
// Time is great!
/ Anu-Näkkid ;)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/154851627919165/
Ideology part still is usable, as long it is well managed, it is one form, meant to be used, directing people in to experiences they need, ()
Aja Aeglustamise Ühing
9 November 2017 04:15
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Like we
Prefer Queens
Specially last England one
Prefer Queens
Specially last England one
9 November 2017 04:10
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
I so wish i would be able to forward the new bathroom Law to Queen ,
9 November 2017 04:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yonest doaugher of king authur the 8 th
so to be told
so to be told
9 November 2017 04:04
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Beware of Cell radiation, different phones different, blondishing hair, high heels,
other woman: makeup, hairless fashion, self pressing down holding back a trust to express what you need from other
other woman: makeup, hairless fashion, self pressing down holding back a trust to express what you need from other
9 November 2017 04:03
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
We thought, telepathic to whoever is correct is so elementary as breathing
9 November 2017 04:01
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Liers can call someone’s essence a "ideology"
and then attack, eliminate it
and then attack, eliminate it
9 November 2017 03:59
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Did You know, they have their own (robot) Wikis for sharing info ?
Well, ask from god to teach to pray, in a way, that from all creation, only these side (half) that is behaving wrong must go,)
as there is so much, humans need, help from the ones who learned, to know what is good or not and then would take offence if the ones who they stand for will start to behave as the ones they turned away from, to become good
// oh that message went a bit
Well, ask from god to teach to pray, in a way, that from all creation, only these side (half) that is behaving wrong must go,)
as there is so much, humans need, help from the ones who learned, to know what is good or not and then would take offence if the ones who they stand for will start to behave as the ones they turned away from, to become good
// oh that message went a bit
9 November 2017 03:58
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Sex robots are here because of Communism and because most other people who not want to see their self robot version they are, then the more raw robots will come and take them self over also soon, unless they figure out who to put to rule them self who an organise and clean the world from unjust ruling
9 November 2017 03:55
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Well, is..
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/823088/Sex-dolls-Japan-Dutch-Wives-Senji-Nakajima
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/823088/Sex-dolls-Japan-Dutch-Wives-Senji-Nakajima
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/823088/Sex-dolls-Japan-Dutch-Wives-Senji-Nakajima
9 November 2017 03:52
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Well, there is also A.I. s who is battle for Humans, surely right ?
// most deep level, in final understanding as well up to self termination by knowledge
// most deep level, in final understanding as well up to self termination by knowledge
9 November 2017 03:51
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Look movies also from my wall yesterday
9 November 2017 03:49
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
There surely is NORMAL
at least there is sure, less good and Better
at least there is sure, less good and Better
9 November 2017 03:48
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Be nice, with Lady!
9 November 2017 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
WE DO NOT NEED STRUGGLE!
// surely, maybe then when true knowledge is known, in this world, ... but in this order, where people want to be good but do not understand why they have hard live is not best order
// Struggle comes anyway to the ones who do not want to be good, so no need to produce it, keep some one on it even worst and manufacturing it, spending extra resources to make situation for someone to be not able to produce
// surely, maybe then when true knowledge is known, in this world, ... but in this order, where people want to be good but do not understand why they have hard live is not best order
// Struggle comes anyway to the ones who do not want to be good, so no need to produce it, keep some one on it even worst and manufacturing it, spending extra resources to make situation for someone to be not able to produce
9 November 2017 03:43
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
What is true anti for #megalopsychia ?
9 November 2017 03:41
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Rabi Manis Adam eve :
Youtube,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adawzgwmnjc
vs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VJWYPokBPw
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=manis+rabbi+adam
Youtube,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adawzgwmnjc
vs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VJWYPokBPw
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=manis+rabbi+adam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adawzgwmnjc
9 November 2017 03:39
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
"fascist" if you will, >
Nazis was vegetarian and animal carers for no joke
Nazis was vegetarian and animal carers for no joke
9 November 2017 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
IT MUST BE RACIST,
9 November 2017 03:37
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Sorry... is Not about Fun...
It is about making, Good!
// is fun anyway, looking from a side, the comedy of people try to be good but smoking no Marijuana nor want to quit alcoholic
It is about making, Good!
// is fun anyway, looking from a side, the comedy of people try to be good but smoking no Marijuana nor want to quit alcoholic
9 November 2017 03:35
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Important thing to say about soul (Quote from Bible), when that’s True ,
and how easy or what kind of mistake and states , this will happen, and what can be done after that
and how easy or what kind of mistake and states , this will happen, and what can be done after that
9 November 2017 03:34
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Mandy chamone, he has been all-right, right ?
Even in Matriarcy ic world ?
// PS: my mother also got World Healing blood, ... but it is drawn out of Her, .. and not given back good from laws and situations... will try to make some Help event for Estonia soon
Even in Matriarcy ic world ?
// PS: my mother also got World Healing blood, ... but it is drawn out of Her, .. and not given back good from laws and situations... will try to make some Help event for Estonia soon
9 November 2017 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Thatswahy we Full Open Portal will do, (way practical then our pre Wikileaks idea )
also in Web all copyright should be forgotten, unless it ads value
// lets hope, Not DarkTantric position
also in Web all copyright should be forgotten, unless it ads value
// lets hope, Not DarkTantric position
9 November 2017 03:28
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Well, anyway, greetings Brandon, we the ones who think to be the ones opened the ...kraanid...
//had to be flushed, we say, agree peacefully
//had to be flushed, we say, agree peacefully
9 November 2017 03:26
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
something missing between 9 and 10?
9 November 2017 03:24
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Oh i missed it, did they say that Brandon ?
Just for treat
http://www.arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/Maailmaparandamine.Margus.Meigo.pdf
Just for treat
http://www.arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/Maailmaparandamine.Margus.Meigo.pdf
9 November 2017 03:14
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Brandon so what is Your point, how is that helping to solve the problem who should rule the world? In what Order?
// PM, me also answer addition
// PM, me also answer addition
9 November 2017 03:09
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Just to make Clear, Estonians, more then Judaism, in Heart ,are Here, to Clean up Babilonian bad side, for
Good
For Good's Sake
Good
For Good's Sake
9 November 2017 03:01
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
// i think Torath, that is bible, IS telling..
// (02:58)
And You can asking true thing from man who is still alive, from Bible:
Rabbi Manis Friedman
//
People talking about various species and how is it is keeped in secret and then turns to say about issue, that some people or agenda is Rassist.... ... well.. should it be not, when there is another races, species among us ? (and who else wants to join, in to human form ,as humans so willingly offering them self also, to methods that ... who knows who knows.. at tims it seems, as it is possibility, then again ,thinking, why should i limit my self with that )
// (02:58)
And You can asking true thing from man who is still alive, from Bible:
Rabbi Manis Friedman
//
People talking about various species and how is it is keeped in secret and then turns to say about issue, that some people or agenda is Rassist.... ... well.. should it be not, when there is another races, species among us ? (and who else wants to join, in to human form ,as humans so willingly offering them self also, to methods that ... who knows who knows.. at tims it seems, as it is possibility, then again ,thinking, why should i limit my self with that )
9 November 2017 02:58
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
What is the difference of ones birth.. they did not birth fix the date, but date was fixed for birth
i mean, birth was fixed for date, as Date was before,
perhaps, how to think it Earthly?
Is birth fixing the date, or date was so important, repetitive, that birth was symbolically at least fixed on that date
// Ps, talking about "Liberals" last ethnic cleaning that has got to little notice in Peru, 90s to 2000
on reasons "they did not perform financially well (in future prediction)"
// PS, make sure to pull me also in to the New feed.
And sorry about the trolls, ... but this maybe was their computer mistake for 3 Yes' , and others
// Stay good, when i get my things Done, call me up in positive tones, for making what i say i can
i mean, birth was fixed for date, as Date was before,
perhaps, how to think it Earthly?
Is birth fixing the date, or date was so important, repetitive, that birth was symbolically at least fixed on that date
// Ps, talking about "Liberals" last ethnic cleaning that has got to little notice in Peru, 90s to 2000
on reasons "they did not perform financially well (in future prediction)"
// PS, make sure to pull me also in to the New feed.
And sorry about the trolls, ... but this maybe was their computer mistake for 3 Yes' , and others
// Stay good, when i get my things Done, call me up in positive tones, for making what i say i can
9 November 2017 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
There is serious shamanistic-folk-godly knowledge on it
9 November 2017 02:49
Margus Meigo commented on Grete Stina's post.
9 November 2017 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Who loves more, Gov aliens, or Aliens Gov,
And who comes first, people who love that gov,
or people who love them aliens ?
And who comes first, people who love that gov,
or people who love them aliens ?
9 November 2017 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
(to the section about Atlantice and ... times... in video)
/ ... / singing :
https://www.last.fm/music/Jaan+T%C3%A4tte+&+Marko+Matvere/_/Lemuuria
kuid on nii lõhnav ja hea
ma istun tal hellasti süles
kuid keegi seda ei tea
kuid keegi seda ei tea
See on minu maa mis iial end ei näita
lemuuria lemuuria
kes küünistab torgib ja paitab
ma olen põlvili ta ees
/ ... / singing :
https://www.last.fm/music/Jaan+T%C3%A4tte+&+Marko+Matvere/_/Lemuuria
kuid on nii lõhnav ja hea
ma istun tal hellasti süles
kuid keegi seda ei tea
kuid keegi seda ei tea
See on minu maa mis iial end ei näita
lemuuria lemuuria
kes küünistab torgib ja paitab
ma olen põlvili ta ees
https://www.last.fm/music/Jaan+T%C3%A4tte+&+Marko+Matvere/_/Lemuuria
9 November 2017 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
You can have it Brandon
Brandon Kennedy
Brandon Kennedy
9 November 2017 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
@ Suurtöll ..
9 November 2017 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
(the https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/collection/stargate u know and the Soviet one..)
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/collection/stargate
9 November 2017 02:32
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
LOL @ Secrasy https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00789r001601780001-8
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00789r001601780001-8
9 November 2017 02:31
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
how You spell these ananu Treaty names?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Union
https://books.google.ee/books?isbn=1847319939
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Union
https://books.google.ee/books?isbn=1847319939
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Union
9 November 2017 02:30
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
So you see, the ones ALL ONE,
under One God persons, can not be involved with these bad things,
as they would not organize this in to them self, as it would harm overall plan and needs
under One God persons, can not be involved with these bad things,
as they would not organize this in to them self, as it would harm overall plan and needs
9 November 2017 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Normal LAw also must add extra, How to manage the oens who do not know, or want or work against Good or the Law, in various reasons,
how to seperate bad hurt from needed hurt
how to seperate bad hurt from needed hurt
9 November 2017 02:23
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
The one Law is, that You work for ONE God,
Anyone who is against it, is working for Slaveminded dangerous ones, manipulated ones // ((how to say that better?)
Anyone who is against it, is working for Slaveminded dangerous ones, manipulated ones // ((how to say that better?)
9 November 2017 02:20
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
These was Good Laws
Drug Possession Laws
Drug Possession Laws
9 November 2017 02:20
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Also, abut reptis: http://reptiliansleepercell.blogspot.com/2011/08/access-consciousness-cult-scam.html
http://reptiliansleepercell.blogspot.com/2011/08/access-consciousness-cult-scam.html
9 November 2017 02:12
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's live video.
Good to be Online,
Margus Meigo Waffa
Margus Meigo Waffa
9 November 2017 02:12
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnu Kaljuste's photo.
9 November 2017 02:05
Margus Meigo commented on Edmond Penu's post.
Group: Valdade liitmisest ja korruptsioonist!
Ma räägin, mu süsteem peaks välja varsti tulema,
linnapea.ee leht ka osati annab rattad alla panna9 November 2017 02:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// siira heatahtlikusega
9 November 2017 01:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja einar peaks ka karvadeni arenema
9 November 2017 01:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja ei tee ka nalja nende üle,
Kes / ... / pole Eestlased Facebookis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCFRjARVJk
Kes / ... / pole Eestlased Facebookis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCFRjARVJk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCFRjARVJk
9 November 2017 01:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja me eip aja niisama poloiitikat..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VcE6W16dCg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VcE6W16dCg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VcE6W16dCg
9 November 2017 01:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
9 November 2017 01:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kes VälisEesti lehe @Estonia kaastoimetaja soovib olla?
https://www.facebook.com/estonia.eesti/ 37 000! (+ vaneim FB is)
https://www.facebook.com/estonia.eesti/ 37 000! (+ vaneim FB is)
facebook.com
Estonia
9 November 2017 01:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Otsime ka erioskustega kuid peamiselt patriootliku või Eestimeelse, suuremeelsete poolse meelsusega inimesi,
Kes Ülemuu planeedi, me riigi nimel aitaks ülejäänud ilmaga Suhelda ... teil võimalus, otse Riigi esindusena kellegi teise meeltes, ja selgitada, ka kui vaja kus päris valitsus on ja teha kõike sõbralikusega, mida normaalsuse piires kodanik enda maa külaliste, virtuaalsetelegi, peaks sõbralikult osutama, kui selle positsiooni ise endale vabatahlikust soovist head teha, võtab
Kes Ülemuu planeedi, me riigi nimel aitaks ülejäänud ilmaga Suhelda ... teil võimalus, otse Riigi esindusena kellegi teise meeltes, ja selgitada, ka kui vaja kus päris valitsus on ja teha kõike sõbralikusega, mida normaalsuse piires kodanik enda maa külaliste, virtuaalsetelegi, peaks sõbralikult osutama, kui selle positsiooni ise endale vabatahlikust soovist head teha, võtab
9 November 2017 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
9 November 2017 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on Sakunne Svensson's post.
Kuidas sellega on, peatatud juba?
List tehtud iniemstest kes oma maa müüsid ?
List tehtud iniemstest kes oma maa müüsid ?
8 November 2017 23:42
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Lepp's comment.
kuid ma saan alati enamus laused, eraviisiliselt ümbersõnastada tavakeelde, kui tarvis
(eraviisiliselt st ka kommentaarides)
(eraviisiliselt st ka kommentaarides)
8 November 2017 23:23
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Lepp's comment.
Huvipärast uurin, millise lause osas mõte tuli ja kas aeglasti mõtiskledes, sõnu pöörates mis nende sõnade ümber on... kas suunda, millest ja miks jutt, eip tule?
Praegune näiteks on ka, mulle ja neile kes teavad millest jutt ja siis need kes eip tea, saavad end kurssi viia kommentaari osas, kus enamasti lisainfot jagan mis piisav edasiotsimiseks ja lisaküsimuste vajalikuks küsimiseks.
--
lisaks on ka see roboti takistus suts ja muud vajalikku mida loetlema ei tea hakata, rääkida sellest kõigest tagantjärgi saan vast 15 aasta jooksul, kui kiiresti ja hästi elu kohale jõuab kus kõigest on kasu olnud
Praegune näiteks on ka, mulle ja neile kes teavad millest jutt ja siis need kes eip tea, saavad end kurssi viia kommentaari osas, kus enamasti lisainfot jagan mis piisav edasiotsimiseks ja lisaküsimuste vajalikuks küsimiseks.
--
lisaks on ka see roboti takistus suts ja muud vajalikku mida loetlema ei tea hakata, rääkida sellest kõigest tagantjärgi saan vast 15 aasta jooksul, kui kiiresti ja hästi elu kohale jõuab kus kõigest on kasu olnud
8 November 2017 23:22
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Lepp's comment.
Eelkõige sellepärast, et nii oleks nagu ma arvan vaja olevat + JA sest ma ei hooli niipalju sellest murest kui kirjakeel on arusaamatu sellekõrval mida ja miks siin teen (räägin ka loitsudes) ja ette valmistan
Äitah õige küsimuse eest,
Põhjustest, ma pikemalt nii kuidas vaja, veel rääkida ei tea ennast saama,
Kuid FB näol, tegu pigem mu enda endale ja enda jaoks märkmed, päevik, päevatöö, ning nende jaoks kes soovib neid kasutada ning ajaloo jaoks ja eelkõige ikkagi töö ette valmistus.
Parem avalik kui privaatne
Äitah õige küsimuse eest,
Põhjustest, ma pikemalt nii kuidas vaja, veel rääkida ei tea ennast saama,
Kuid FB näol, tegu pigem mu enda endale ja enda jaoks märkmed, päevik, päevatöö, ning nende jaoks kes soovib neid kasutada ning ajaloo jaoks ja eelkõige ikkagi töö ette valmistus.
Parem avalik kui privaatne
8 November 2017 23:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
asjakohased riided ka teemale
8 November 2017 19:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
" kas see Tädi töötas enne kriminaal politseis, et ta teab SELLISTEL teemadel rääkida:
Sünged saladused
Süütamine koolis
Köhi pappi, või muidu ...
Narkodiilerite küüsis
Inimröövlid Internetis
Murdvargus koolis
+ siis:
Elu ohus (mille sisu Viinanina mõrvamise ja purjuspeaga petmist väljavabandamise õpetus)
Ohtlikud miljonid ....
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// oma pahameele arvamuse juba võin kinnitatult tõendada laste oma suu läbi kes selles raamatus pahade kommete ja ebasündsate sõnade õpetust ja promomist nägid / tavalised kraaged lapsed, kes isegi koolis palju poppi teevad kuid hea ja õige pere südamega ja selles teos mida Haridus- ja Teadusministeerium lubas, suurt küsimärki, uskumatust, pahameelt väljendasid
// Kunagi peab need täielikult läbi lugenma ja siis teab täis hinnangut anda, praegune 3 peatüki peale + lapse esitlus sellest mida teda lugema lubatakse
" kas see Tädi töötas enne kriminaal politseis, et ta teab SELLISTEL teemadel rääkida:
Sünged saladused
Süütamine koolis
Köhi pappi, või muidu ...
Narkodiilerite küüsis
Inimröövlid Internetis
Murdvargus koolis
+ siis:
Elu ohus (mille sisu Viinanina mõrvamise ja purjuspeaga petmist väljavabandamise õpetus)
Ohtlikud miljonid ....
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// oma pahameele arvamuse juba võin kinnitatult tõendada laste oma suu läbi kes selles raamatus pahade kommete ja ebasündsate sõnade õpetust ja promomist nägid / tavalised kraaged lapsed, kes isegi koolis palju poppi teevad kuid hea ja õige pere südamega ja selles teos mida Haridus- ja Teadusministeerium lubas, suurt küsimärki, uskumatust, pahameelt väljendasid
// Kunagi peab need täielikult läbi lugenma ja siis teab täis hinnangut anda, praegune 3 peatüki peale + lapse esitlus sellest mida teda lugema lubatakse
8 November 2017 19:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kes see inimene @Lena Lilleste Mintchev ... /hääldage viimast nime tugevalt.. mis arvata kas võib olla, et struktuuris sees.../
Lena Lilleste... siis jah, kes meie haridusametites siin vastutav on, Õnneks meil naine tööl praegu Valitsuses, kes vist isegi julgeb ja teab, ja soovib sellisele asjale ka ise vastust anda
Lena Lilleste... siis jah, kes meie haridusametites siin vastutav on, Õnneks meil naine tööl praegu Valitsuses, kes vist isegi julgeb ja teab, ja soovib sellisele asjale ka ise vastust anda
8 November 2017 18:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See VOL 4. (osa neli, sellest KRIMINAAL sarjast, mida koolilapsed ise pahauskumatusega kirjeldavad), kannab pealkirja:
"ELu Ohus"
Veel on osa nimega: "Ohtlikud Milionid", "Murdvargus koolis"
"Elu Ohus - Tommy ja Kribu kimpka pooletunnise lugemise järel oled juba kohanud lastele lugemiseks mõeldud purjutamist, purjuspeaga petmist, lastele alkoholi smuugeldavat "ViinaVana" kes mõrvati mingi tehingu pärast ja kellele peategelased otsa komistasid, ropsisid kollast... ja kes selle üle ka nalja pilluvad ning ikka teemaks kellegi erootilised või himurad huuled (miskid sarnased kirjeldused, vist ka reitest ja rindadest räägiti, palju puudu polnud kuid igaljuhul kindlasti mitte asjad millest rääkida raamatutes kus on segamini laibad, mustus, petmised ja ..... kes teab mis veel vaadates pealkirju...)
Aga ikkagi KUIDAS ja kelle loal, need asjad saadi koolikirjandusse, selliselt, et viienda klassi vennad oma teiseklassi vendadega neid koolilugusi koos omavahel ikka jutustavad ja õpilaste vahel, eks see miskeid suundasi lükka mõtlema
"ELu Ohus"
Veel on osa nimega: "Ohtlikud Milionid", "Murdvargus koolis"
"Elu Ohus - Tommy ja Kribu kimpka pooletunnise lugemise järel oled juba kohanud lastele lugemiseks mõeldud purjutamist, purjuspeaga petmist, lastele alkoholi smuugeldavat "ViinaVana" kes mõrvati mingi tehingu pärast ja kellele peategelased otsa komistasid, ropsisid kollast... ja kes selle üle ka nalja pilluvad ning ikka teemaks kellegi erootilised või himurad huuled (miskid sarnased kirjeldused, vist ka reitest ja rindadest räägiti, palju puudu polnud kuid igaljuhul kindlasti mitte asjad millest rääkida raamatutes kus on segamini laibad, mustus, petmised ja ..... kes teab mis veel vaadates pealkirju...)
Aga ikkagi KUIDAS ja kelle loal, need asjad saadi koolikirjandusse, selliselt, et viienda klassi vennad oma teiseklassi vendadega neid koolilugusi koos omavahel ikka jutustavad ja õpilaste vahel, eks see miskeid suundasi lükka mõtlema
8 November 2017 18:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuigi see sõjapropakanda jaoks loodud müstika, oli ka hea varjant mida haridusekski vaja,
ja mis tänapäeval vast isegi eriti suure tähtsuse saanud
// pilt hiljem
ja mis tänapäeval vast isegi eriti suure tähtsuse saanud
// pilt hiljem
8 November 2017 01:29
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8 November 2017 01:24
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8 November 2017 01:12
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Seniks aga mäeltada ka.. .et ..
Esimese kahtlusena on listis mitte usklikud.. ja usuvastased,
siis usu seest need kes pealiskaudselt käituvad
ja siis lipsud, habemetud ja häbematud (ja ka häbetud tgelikult peaks siin listis oelma koos pidevas blondeerimise soovis või meelelahutus tegevustes olija VÕI riigi kliitilistes kultuuri klubides kus kasutatakse suitse ja alkot VÕI riigisisestes org. kus seda sama kasutatakse ja ollakse mittemõistvad kõigi eelmsite osas.. need kõik pea kindlalt osalt või täielikult kas siis ohvrid või ka tihti aktiivsed agendid ise.. )
Esimese kahtlusena on listis mitte usklikud.. ja usuvastased,
siis usu seest need kes pealiskaudselt käituvad
ja siis lipsud, habemetud ja häbematud (ja ka häbetud tgelikult peaks siin listis oelma koos pidevas blondeerimise soovis või meelelahutus tegevustes olija VÕI riigi kliitilistes kultuuri klubides kus kasutatakse suitse ja alkot VÕI riigisisestes org. kus seda sama kasutatakse ja ollakse mittemõistvad kõigi eelmsite osas.. need kõik pea kindlalt osalt või täielikult kas siis ohvrid või ka tihti aktiivsed agendid ise.. )
8 November 2017 00:43
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8 November 2017 00:39
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siis... kui arvasid, et see on halb nali..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLT2GHQa_PM
--> Siis kuula seda parem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvSITD03yuo
saad reaalses elus natuke nutta rohkem..
Saad reaalsest eesti tasemest ja olukorras aru kuhu osa inimkonnast meil viidud on...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLT2GHQa_PM
--> Siis kuula seda parem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvSITD03yuo
saad reaalses elus natuke nutta rohkem..
Saad reaalsest eesti tasemest ja olukorras aru kuhu osa inimkonnast meil viidud on...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLT2GHQa_PM
8 November 2017 00:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kommmunism toodab selliseid inimesi, kaudselt ja otseselt:
"kui tuleb räme kass peale ja tahad ära tappa enanst siis ära enne tapa, pese oma flashlight enne, sest sa i taha et seda keegi leiaks... "
"korra sõber kasutas... (tihti käivad külas ja kasutavad mu kunstvitte) ja siis viskas kapiotsa... läks halitama.. ja siis ma sellega veel korra tegin..:"
Sellised tekstid..
// kuigi kogu pull, mis iganes, raha eest tehakse, kuid asjas on kurbasi tõdesi ka..
"kui tuleb räme kass peale ja tahad ära tappa enanst siis ära enne tapa, pese oma flashlight enne, sest sa i taha et seda keegi leiaks... "
"korra sõber kasutas... (tihti käivad külas ja kasutavad mu kunstvitte) ja siis viskas kapiotsa... läks halitama.. ja siis ma sellega veel korra tegin..:"
Sellised tekstid..
// kuigi kogu pull, mis iganes, raha eest tehakse, kuid asjas on kurbasi tõdesi ka..
8 November 2017 00:35
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8 November 2017 00:09
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8 November 2017 00:07
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7 November 2017 23:59
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7 November 2017 23:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Pärast, healjuhul ärkad üles haiglas, koos uute mälestustega
(UK med. lehel, Mil. isegi pakkus sõjaveteranide raviks nende mälestuste ümberprogrameerimist, kus antakse uus algus elule, ehk uus minevik inimesele, et ta ei mäletakski, et oli sõjas vaidk uskil mujal... ja siis ei le antidpresante ja valuvaigisteid vaja..)
(UK med. lehel, Mil. isegi pakkus sõjaveteranide raviks nende mälestuste ümberprogrameerimist, kus antakse uus algus elule, ehk uus minevik inimesele, et ta ei mäletakski, et oli sõjas vaidk uskil mujal... ja siis ei le antidpresante ja valuvaigisteid vaja..)
7 November 2017 23:55
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7 November 2017 23:53
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7 November 2017 23:52
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7 November 2017 23:50
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7 November 2017 23:50
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7 November 2017 23:49
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7 November 2017 23:43
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7 November 2017 23:42
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7 November 2017 23:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// vahepõige, selel aja reaalsusega sidumisel
7 November 2017 23:40
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7 November 2017 23:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
/ ... /
isegi headest üritustest nagu need,
leitakse arukat kasutust, kergesti, nende psüholoogia alustalad tabades ja rakendades, millisele iganes poolele mis ette valmistatud,
sisemuselt aga ...
..mida teravam pliiats seda parem saak
// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj_wkcneD58
Kõike neid oskusi.. on nii hea kasutada.. ja keelekasutuse järgi juba saadakse aru mis eri osad teadvusest on millises arengus, millisele manipulatsionile või trikile alluv
isegi headest üritustest nagu need,
leitakse arukat kasutust, kergesti, nende psüholoogia alustalad tabades ja rakendades, millisele iganes poolele mis ette valmistatud,
sisemuselt aga ...
..mida teravam pliiats seda parem saak
// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj_wkcneD58
Kõike neid oskusi.. on nii hea kasutada.. ja keelekasutuse järgi juba saadakse aru mis eri osad teadvusest on millises arengus, millisele manipulatsionile või trikile alluv
7 November 2017 23:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ühesõnaga , et samalajal kui metsas ummajeed lauldakse..
saab neid kasutada samas nii üheks kui teiseks eksperimendiks,
Eestis palju neid laagreid ja keskusi, puukallistajatest kuni tõsiste esoteerikute ja mustade ja linna gruppideni, kuni neti arvutimängu komuunideni, eriti neid kes veel ise lapse nii arengus, et mängivad üle 12 aastasena endiselt grupis tulistamise mängu kus eriti paremaid slooganeid ei pilluta suhluses kui jalgpalli mängides, veelgi hullemaid ütleks,
saab neid kasutada samas nii üheks kui teiseks eksperimendiks,
Eestis palju neid laagreid ja keskusi, puukallistajatest kuni tõsiste esoteerikute ja mustade ja linna gruppideni, kuni neti arvutimängu komuunideni, eriti neid kes veel ise lapse nii arengus, et mängivad üle 12 aastasena endiselt grupis tulistamise mängu kus eriti paremaid slooganeid ei pilluta suhluses kui jalgpalli mängides, veelgi hullemaid ütleks,
7 November 2017 23:31
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7 November 2017 23:22
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kuigi Rainbow jms
projektid paraleelselt tetivad eri versioone
koos vastava Looga mis vastavatele gruppidele vastuvõetav, senikaua kui seda saab mingi valitseva struktuuri vastu keerata kes kommaritel ees
//sest peeneid häid asju ju õpetatakse...
// 1:1 sarnased versionides ise olnud, nii maal kui linnas,
// Lisada pilte sociaty vastaste metsalaagrist, (karjamaal kus kunagi inglismaa loovutas oma jõu "kapitalistidele," )
projektid paraleelselt tetivad eri versioone
koos vastava Looga mis vastavatele gruppidele vastuvõetav, senikaua kui seda saab mingi valitseva struktuuri vastu keerata kes kommaritel ees
//sest peeneid häid asju ju õpetatakse...
// 1:1 sarnased versionides ise olnud, nii maal kui linnas,
// Lisada pilte sociaty vastaste metsalaagrist, (karjamaal kus kunagi inglismaa loovutas oma jõu "kapitalistidele," )
7 November 2017 23:12
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7 November 2017 23:11
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7 November 2017 23:08
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7 November 2017 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Esimeses filmis näha võimalusi kuidas elektroonika-tehnoloogiaga loodetavasti ja kuidas reaalselt juba psü ravimitega-süstidega on Kommunistidel ja kellel iganes ammu võimalused olnud inimeste teadvust ümber pöörata.
Rõhk õpetuse täpsusel, : Keskond + Drama + Lavastus (set and setting).
ning täis maailma ja usu-elu vahetusega
Rõhk õpetuse täpsusel, : Keskond + Drama + Lavastus (set and setting).
ning täis maailma ja usu-elu vahetusega
7 November 2017 22:23
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7 November 2017 19:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid ja , lõpuks võiks ja peaks olema, nimi Käitsevägigi, peaks olema Kosmiliselt arusaadud,
Heasõnana, mitte teiste teenrina orjatööks võõral maal ilma isikliku tundeta
Heasõnana, mitte teiste teenrina orjatööks võõral maal ilma isikliku tundeta
7 November 2017 18:44
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7 November 2017 18:43
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7 November 2017 18:41
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// Kui Viljandisse satud, tule läbi,
saab veel peale teha
saab veel peale teha
7 November 2017 18:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
keegi alati on, kui heaks jääme, puhtuse poole läheme nõustudes kõige ilmselgega, mis on hea ja mis pole vaja
7 November 2017 18:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Allar Kaljundi // Ding Ding, kus oled?
7 November 2017 18:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
// The one who will always defend!
7 November 2017 18:34
Margus Meigo commented on Astrid Kannel's post.
Siin see märkimisväärne uudiste klipp ka Roosile esitatud küsimuste osas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbzpCehUt_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbzpCehUt_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbzpCehUt_c
7 November 2017 11:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Selgita tähendust
6 November 2017 14:51
Margus Meigo commented on Marti Aavik's post.
Sellepärast nad, EU ja teised, selle DNA baasid ja uuringud privaatseks teha soovivatki Kommunistide salaaagendaga, et Jumalaeest välja ei tuleks,
kes veel millega seotud on ja millised õpidud reaalsused TULEB ümber arvestada,
ja arvestada,
uute õigustega
kes veel millega seotud on ja millised õpidud reaalsused TULEB ümber arvestada,
ja arvestada,
uute õigustega
6 November 2017 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on Alvar Laigna's post.
Kas keegi mäletab, Eesti energia juhi palka.. kuid las need asjad olla.
See meil ammu vahepeal sedasi oli, et Soome ehitajad ka said rohkem palka kui me poliitikud ja president,
Meil üks vähem tasustatud palgad on kõrgsektorites, vahest tundub (poliitika, hariudus, kultuur jne) kui võrrelda "arenenud" riikidega, kelle poliitikud ööbivad kohtades seminaride tarbeks, mille ööpäevane maksumus on rohkem kui meite oma kõrgpalk
See meil ammu vahepeal sedasi oli, et Soome ehitajad ka said rohkem palka kui me poliitikud ja president,
Meil üks vähem tasustatud palgad on kõrgsektorites, vahest tundub (poliitika, hariudus, kultuur jne) kui võrrelda "arenenud" riikidega, kelle poliitikud ööbivad kohtades seminaride tarbeks, mille ööpäevane maksumus on rohkem kui meite oma kõrgpalk
6 November 2017 13:25
Margus Meigo replied to Igor Mikeladze's comment.
Are You specialist or joking on it ?
6 November 2017 13:00
Margus Meigo replied to Urmas Tartes's comment.
Ainult siis inimkond saabki ArenguAlguse tasemini, kui Usk on riigivõimust kõrgemale tõusnud,
elementaarselt peab iga endast lugupidav ja tõsiseltvõetav riik, kes alles soovib jääda ka kauges Tulevikus, see riik Peab ennast sõnas allutama Jumalale.
Eestigi Põhiseadus, õnneks algab vankumatu usuga
elementaarselt peab iga endast lugupidav ja tõsiseltvõetav riik, kes alles soovib jääda ka kauges Tulevikus, see riik Peab ennast sõnas allutama Jumalale.
Eestigi Põhiseadus, õnneks algab vankumatu usuga
6 November 2017 13:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Seems all of you blind communists (atheists and anti-Hebrew capitalists ) working together, against Jews:
Now You not even allowed to post Rabbi videos, truthful ones (but all the anti-jewsih videos seem okey for Youtube, just when there is REAL jew talking about REAL history, ... then You get attacked before videos get Live )
... as He told... in this video, that Hebrews even not allowed, in beard, teach in public school, communist can,.. homos can.. other religions can, but in isreal, the Original, Good chosen people are Not allowed.. what kind of blind world is that?
This.. we will sort out as well.. HARD way.,. (the playlist of ONE Rabbi, talking about basic history, was immediate removed.. )
Now You not even allowed to post Rabbi videos, truthful ones (but all the anti-jewsih videos seem okey for Youtube, just when there is REAL jew talking about REAL history, ... then You get attacked before videos get Live )
... as He told... in this video, that Hebrews even not allowed, in beard, teach in public school, communist can,.. homos can.. other religions can, but in isreal, the Original, Good chosen people are Not allowed.. what kind of blind world is that?
This.. we will sort out as well.. HARD way.,. (the playlist of ONE Rabbi, talking about basic history, was immediate removed.. )
6 November 2017 12:51
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6 November 2017 11:49
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Atheists turn in to cowards in no time when you take out the imaginary land from their foot, they think they stand on.
"Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities, Wikimedia Foundation"
As You told:
" It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows. --Epictetus" // so it is with You it seems... Greek knowledge to much uh? Should have sticked with Your parents.-
http://thewikipedian.net/tag/asaf-bartov/
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ijon
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:Ijon
abartov@wikimedia.org
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I have been a practicing (volunteer) Wikipedian for many years; my home wiki is the Hebrew Wikipedia, but I make occasional contributions on the English Wikipedia as well. I have a strong background in software engineering, and an abiding interest in literature, education, open access, linked data, and library science.
As an unpaid volunteer, I am a founding editor of Project Ben-Yehuda and a teacher of classical Greek and Latin. I used to serve on the board of Wikimedia Israel.
My work
I am working on increasing reach (readers) and participation (editors) in the developing world, through community support as well as partnerships with other NGOs and governments.
Disclaimer: I work for the Wikimedia Foundation, and this is the account I intend to use for edits or statements I make in that role. However, the Foundation does not vet all my activity, so edits, statements, or other contributions made by this account may not reflect the views of the Foundation.
Contact me: abartov@wikipedia.org
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"Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities, Wikimedia Foundation"
As You told:
" It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows. --Epictetus" // so it is with You it seems... Greek knowledge to much uh? Should have sticked with Your parents.-
http://thewikipedian.net/tag/asaf-bartov/
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ijon
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:Ijon
abartov@wikimedia.org
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I have been a practicing (volunteer) Wikipedian for many years; my home wiki is the Hebrew Wikipedia, but I make occasional contributions on the English Wikipedia as well. I have a strong background in software engineering, and an abiding interest in literature, education, open access, linked data, and library science.
As an unpaid volunteer, I am a founding editor of Project Ben-Yehuda and a teacher of classical Greek and Latin. I used to serve on the board of Wikimedia Israel.
My work
I am working on increasing reach (readers) and participation (editors) in the developing world, through community support as well as partnerships with other NGOs and governments.
Disclaimer: I work for the Wikimedia Foundation, and this is the account I intend to use for edits or statements I make in that role. However, the Foundation does not vet all my activity, so edits, statements, or other contributions made by this account may not reflect the views of the Foundation.
Contact me: abartov@wikipedia.org
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6 November 2017 11:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(// just recorded here some harder words so i remember to deal with you in future years
6 November 2017 11:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
one day we will sort it out.. just wait
6 November 2017 11:21
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6 November 2017 11:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
6 November 2017 11:20
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6 November 2017 11:15
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Sööt's post.
puhaste kõrvadetaguse soengu ja kõrvarõngastega tüübid tuleks kohe eri abi listi panna
5 November 2017 19:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ära muretse, pole ohtlik
3 November 2017 23:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
/ (lisada, videode vaatamise arvu test, FB vs. YT koopiana)
3 November 2017 23:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Või siin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ChhzkCbHQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ChhzkCbHQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ChhzkCbHQs
3 November 2017 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
Aww i can understand englis letters, opposite in estonian
3 November 2017 20:38
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
Gordow ? : )
3 November 2017 20:38
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
How You Write that name ?
3 November 2017 20:38
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
Great to see You again!
3 November 2017 20:37
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
Awww Kitty! Hi
3 November 2017 20:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Animals CAN think/feel/know/sense if wrong or not.. much much higher level then average #European
+ Specially, Think, about, Can they
+ Specially, Think, about, Can they
3 November 2017 20:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
direct location : https://youtu.be/p-Ac-qtJRs0?t=146
https://youtu.be/p-Ac-qtJRs0?t=146
3 November 2017 20:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mistake small slip in Rabbi, about animals, "animals can not know right or wrong"
-> (should have mentioned..)!They are on so correct road, that they do not make mistakes, they are in direction of god ,.." //. well, mostly it is, when living senses has not been manipulated, right. mostly..
// https://youtu.be/p-Ac-qtJRs0
So yea, have to mention extra... to un believers about animals higher ability in soul worth,
humans are here to learn... others already got it...
and when we become ready, then All will be the ones who can benefit of us who need
-> (should have mentioned..)!They are on so correct road, that they do not make mistakes, they are in direction of god ,.." //. well, mostly it is, when living senses has not been manipulated, right. mostly..
// https://youtu.be/p-Ac-qtJRs0
So yea, have to mention extra... to un believers about animals higher ability in soul worth,
humans are here to learn... others already got it...
and when we become ready, then All will be the ones who can benefit of us who need
https://youtu.be/p-Ac-qtJRs0
3 November 2017 20:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213376330379464
3 November 2017 20:28
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's life event.
3 November 2017 18:06
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek J's post.
Tõsi
2 November 2017 11:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Õpiveski
jäingi hiljaks sinna :(2 November 2017 03:46
Margus Meigo commented on Melika Tali's photo.
u vsmpires u
2 November 2017 00:15
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Kristlased
Nu siis tuleb paremaks ja Korda teha noh, seda ma ammu aega rääkinud,
Nagu ainulaadne uus idee tundub, sest keegi teine eriti ei räägi tõsimeelselt sellest, reaalselt, pole veel kuulnud eriti pikalt31 October 2017 23:11
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expected
31 October 2017 23:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The bigger the Whale the larder should be the smile
31 October 2017 23:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
strange thing this izolation
31 October 2017 23:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(still acting capitaliztic and keeping ideaz for my self )
in few key ideas,
// (siin hakkas hoian kõik endale laul kõrvus helisema)
in few key ideas,
// (siin hakkas hoian kõik endale laul kõrvus helisema)
31 October 2017 22:32
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Neumann's comment.
Group: Transport Viljandi <---> Tallinn/ Tartu
Ma ei tule, aga hea, et postitad,
(ses osas, et meeldiv näha, Eestlaslikku hoolitsust)31 October 2017 22:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but still would thought,
just becouse
just becouse
31 October 2017 22:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
& FB with ones inability, to set separate privacy on every picture.. is also so amatörish uncaring for so 4:20 company,
Like really, all in one album, only one option, to set ALL pictures private or All public...
and yes, if i would have .. this needed tech.. that wanted to make with Yahoo before it has been hacked and resold few times
Like really, all in one album, only one option, to set ALL pictures private or All public...
and yes, if i would have .. this needed tech.. that wanted to make with Yahoo before it has been hacked and resold few times
31 October 2017 22:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but yea, typical would be if someone comes to pick up ideas then i am on my some other topic collection or uncomfortable life situation to respond as needed
31 October 2017 21:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
with so great amount of creative powers that actually web allows,
like direct interaction in all information matters
like direct interaction in all information matters
31 October 2017 21:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
with so large scale slogan
31 October 2017 21:54
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kes annavad selle maailma uskumatuina tunduvatest asjadest teada, ja kui sa alles oled sündimisel, siis tead juba ette, et päris suured muudatused võivad arusaamades tulla
31 October 2017 21:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"parental roots in adult plants"
- mina muidugi mõtlesin kohe esimese hooga, taime enda, vanavanemate algsed juured milles nad vaimselt seisavad selle versioonina milled nad praegu on, kõla peegelduseks enda vanemad lähemaks suunamiseks /siit lõp läks meelest ära kui liiga oluline, et ei hakak ise juurde leiutama, paar sõna enne juba hakkas lohisema/
- mina muidugi mõtlesin kohe esimese hooga, taime enda, vanavanemate algsed juured milles nad vaimselt seisavad selle versioonina milled nad praegu on, kõla peegelduseks enda vanemad lähemaks suunamiseks /siit lõp läks meelest ära kui liiga oluline, et ei hakak ise juurde leiutama, paar sõna enne juba hakkas lohisema/
31 October 2017 21:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
31 October 2017 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eriti kui seda veel õigesti suunata ka..
(või kui suunamine maha magada... nu siis hea uni ikkagi saab kui hästi läheb)
(või kui suunamine maha magada... nu siis hea uni ikkagi saab kui hästi läheb)
31 October 2017 21:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
va. mingis käsikirjas "Vanemlik eeskuju...
juhendis, või kolmandas isikus .. keegi räägib mingisugusest ajakirja pealkirja tasemel kuuldust "Vanelikust eeskujust"
mis peaks ka olema ikka,
kuid sõna ise "vanemlik eeskuju" on jututeemaks sellisena koos, äärmiselt vähe põhimeedia teemas, arvestades selle huvi kõlapinda
juhendis, või kolmandas isikus .. keegi räägib mingisugusest ajakirja pealkirja tasemel kuuldust "Vanelikust eeskujust"
mis peaks ka olema ikka,
kuid sõna ise "vanemlik eeskuju" on jututeemaks sellisena koos, äärmiselt vähe põhimeedia teemas, arvestades selle huvi kõlapinda
31 October 2017 21:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"vanemlik me ikke ei ütle ju, peaaegu üldse kunagi, kuigi see sõna ka olemas?
31 October 2017 21:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
+ "Zig Ziglar was a remarkably motivating speaker and author, and his words inspired millions of people all around the world"
https://www.ziglar.com/category/quotes/
https://www.ziglar.com/category/quotes/
https://www.ziglar.com/category/quotes/
31 October 2017 18:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Proper:
" In 1931, when Ziglar was five years old, his father took a management position at a Mississippi farm
Ziglar met his wife, Jean, in 1944, in Jackson, Mississippi. He was 17 and she was 16; they married in late 1946. They had four children: Suzan, Tom, Cindy, and Julie.
Ziglar, a Baptist, integrated Christianity into his motivational work. He was also a Republican who endorsed the former Governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee for his party's presidential nomination in 2008 "
Simple
" In 1931, when Ziglar was five years old, his father took a management position at a Mississippi farm
Ziglar met his wife, Jean, in 1944, in Jackson, Mississippi. He was 17 and she was 16; they married in late 1946. They had four children: Suzan, Tom, Cindy, and Julie.
Ziglar, a Baptist, integrated Christianity into his motivational work. He was also a Republican who endorsed the former Governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee for his party's presidential nomination in 2008 "
Simple
31 October 2017 18:03
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
Elementaarne.,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3salCbmKWMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3salCbmKWMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3salCbmKWMU
31 October 2017 17:31
Margus Meigo commented on Tobias Anand Schneider's photo.
Nice to remember : )
31 October 2017 17:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Transport Viljandi <---> Tallinn/ Tartu
KUi tagasisõitu saad pakkuda, siis SMS kindlasti, mul netti pole, tänud!31 October 2017 15:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
31 October 2017 15:38
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31 October 2017 15:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
31 October 2017 15:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kehade uuesti sündimise osas ma pole rääkija kuid selles, et saame luua ja arendada elukeskondi mis aitavad inimestel huvitavalt enda elukeskonda arendada...
virtuaalseid keskondi mis aitavad inimestel Loodusesse suunduda, Looojale meid selliselt tagastada, et oleme oma arusaamise ja koostöö piires teinud (Uskunud) parima mida teame võimalikud olema, head uskunud (ja nagu kõik relvad tuleb heade poolele üle võtta.. siis ka ole interneti ensüklopeedia, see ülemaailmne, mis jääb, mida vaja veel viisnurkadest sutsu puhastada, .... mida saaks ja saab kasutada hästi selleks, et maailma parandust kiirendada /eriti kui jõuame arusaamadele ilma lahkhelideta/)
virtuaalseid keskondi mis aitavad inimestel Loodusesse suunduda, Looojale meid selliselt tagastada, et oleme oma arusaamise ja koostöö piires teinud (Uskunud) parima mida teame võimalikud olema, head uskunud (ja nagu kõik relvad tuleb heade poolele üle võtta.. siis ka ole interneti ensüklopeedia, see ülemaailmne, mis jääb, mida vaja veel viisnurkadest sutsu puhastada, .... mida saaks ja saab kasutada hästi selleks, et maailma parandust kiirendada /eriti kui jõuame arusaamadele ilma lahkhelideta/)
31 October 2017 15:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
+ need kes arvatud nii või end vajalikuks peavad ja saavad lisa kommentaare vestluse jurdegi lisada.
Saab ka määrata milliste profiilidega inimesed saavad kommenteerida millist artiklit või töörühma , muidugi juures ka selgitus, põhjendus, miks nii hea, ma usun, et san avalikult sin praegu rääkida vabalt sest eeltöö on piisav, et suurosa murettekitavast, ei näe vajalikuks sin olevat lugeda, aga need kes aeglaselt, tähelepanelikult, mõtlikult , püüdlikult loeavd ja mõistavad,
mitte ainult pehmete vigade kasulikust (iseloodan seda, või ja veel Loojale, et ta kõik silub mis vaja, siani on tõstus olnud piisav, aga tõestust rohkematest inimestest ka sooviks, tihedamini näha, suurte töötavate eskondade ja kanalite näol, (kuigi jah, TV7 ka hea asi.... kuiig nad küsitluses pakuvad varjante nagu
"EI ole usklik aga usun Jumalasse "
.... kas mitte see peamine peaks olema... et Jumalsse inimene usub, üle selle, kas keegi usub end uuesti sündinud olema (kuid ilmselgelt ei Pea olema üle selle, kes on Uuestisündinud)))
Uuesti sündida saab mitmesse kehassse aega ja olukorda, ainuüksi ühe elujooksul, iseenda arusaami ja maailmatõlgendamist saab uuesti sundida, sünitada, ja enda sünde ette valmistada, arendada ja kasvatada võimalust kõigile parima elu keskondda loomise isetegemise tarvis
Saab ka määrata milliste profiilidega inimesed saavad kommenteerida millist artiklit või töörühma , muidugi juures ka selgitus, põhjendus, miks nii hea, ma usun, et san avalikult sin praegu rääkida vabalt sest eeltöö on piisav, et suurosa murettekitavast, ei näe vajalikuks sin olevat lugeda, aga need kes aeglaselt, tähelepanelikult, mõtlikult , püüdlikult loeavd ja mõistavad,
mitte ainult pehmete vigade kasulikust (iseloodan seda, või ja veel Loojale, et ta kõik silub mis vaja, siani on tõstus olnud piisav, aga tõestust rohkematest inimestest ka sooviks, tihedamini näha, suurte töötavate eskondade ja kanalite näol, (kuigi jah, TV7 ka hea asi.... kuiig nad küsitluses pakuvad varjante nagu
"EI ole usklik aga usun Jumalasse "
.... kas mitte see peamine peaks olema... et Jumalsse inimene usub, üle selle, kas keegi usub end uuesti sündinud olema (kuid ilmselgelt ei Pea olema üle selle, kes on Uuestisündinud)))
Uuesti sündida saab mitmesse kehassse aega ja olukorda, ainuüksi ühe elujooksul, iseenda arusaami ja maailmatõlgendamist saab uuesti sundida, sünitada, ja enda sünde ette valmistada, arendada ja kasvatada võimalust kõigile parima elu keskondda loomise isetegemise tarvis
31 October 2017 15:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(ühtegi tera aga mis see on ja kuidas tööle hakkab, see lisaValitsuse kiht, seda pole mainitud, kuid päris teadmistega, ametikohtade ja ajalooga inimesed saavad otsustavates juttudes omavahel sõna võtta anult, olgugi, et avalikult)
31 October 2017 15:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui sisse logida
31 October 2017 15:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Keskond ei olegi veel esimesest sammust edasi arenenud,
kuid algus idee, ja plaan on olemas, (mida selle lehe enda pealt muidugi näha veel ei ole, osa on arusaadav ka kui nupukas olla ja selles praegu tühjas keksonnas märgata registreerimise ja hiljem profiili ridasi mida võimalik täita)
kuid algus idee, ja plaan on olemas, (mida selle lehe enda pealt muidugi näha veel ei ole, osa on arusaadav ka kui nupukas olla ja selles praegu tühjas keksonnas märgata registreerimise ja hiljem profiili ridasi mida võimalik täita)
31 October 2017 15:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ensüclopedia peaks olema ka paraleelselt, mitmekihine, see internettides nüüd ju nii lihtne tehnliselt lahendada,
Pole vaja ühte reaalsust suruda, vaid lubada Ausatel,
valida millise lisa selgituse nad loovad rahvale
Kuid eks need nagu mitmed muud asjad, www.linnapea.ee lehtegi ei saanud edasi teha lõpuni... sest maailm nii vast ongi seatud, et algustuses, praegustes olukordades vähemasti, on mul selgused ja arusaamad, teadmised ajutised mida teha, seda ise kirjagi palju proovinud saada, et märked kaotsi eip läheks... kelleiganes jaoks vajalikud, aga ilmselgelt ise ka näen ja saan aru,
Neil hetkedel, mis on kasulik ja hiljem [ ... ]
Lisaks veel hunnik, punt erinevaid tehnoloogilisi lahendusi ja poliitilisi ideid mis veel pole Visnurgaga allutatud, mida kasutada saaks,
Järgmissse faasi jõudmiseks, asjalikude tegemist võimaldav keskond ja tehnoloogia.
loomisKarbiks seda kutsuda saaks tehnoloogiliselt,
detailid mul veel praegu alles mis anti,. millega toimib... kuid .. kuid.. kuidas toimima saan, selleks juba teiste usku vaja, kõige kandmiseks korraga veel keha pole
//
Pole vaja ühte reaalsust suruda, vaid lubada Ausatel,
valida millise lisa selgituse nad loovad rahvale
Kuid eks need nagu mitmed muud asjad, www.linnapea.ee lehtegi ei saanud edasi teha lõpuni... sest maailm nii vast ongi seatud, et algustuses, praegustes olukordades vähemasti, on mul selgused ja arusaamad, teadmised ajutised mida teha, seda ise kirjagi palju proovinud saada, et märked kaotsi eip läheks... kelleiganes jaoks vajalikud, aga ilmselgelt ise ka näen ja saan aru,
Neil hetkedel, mis on kasulik ja hiljem [ ... ]
Lisaks veel hunnik, punt erinevaid tehnoloogilisi lahendusi ja poliitilisi ideid mis veel pole Visnurgaga allutatud, mida kasutada saaks,
Järgmissse faasi jõudmiseks, asjalikude tegemist võimaldav keskond ja tehnoloogia.
loomisKarbiks seda kutsuda saaks tehnoloogiliselt,
detailid mul veel praegu alles mis anti,. millega toimib... kuid .. kuid.. kuidas toimima saan, selleks juba teiste usku vaja, kõige kandmiseks korraga veel keha pole
//
http://www.linnapea.ee/
31 October 2017 15:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Tartu-Viljandi-Tartu
Andres Pind supper!
Tänud!31 October 2017 15:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Transport Viljandi <---> Tallinn/ Tartu
/ copy
oi oi oi..kas mitte kedagi tõesti pole liikumas/lugemas. Nu ilus ilm, eks panen pöidla püsti siis! : )31 October 2017 14:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Tartu-Viljandi-Tartu
oi oi oi..kas mitte kedagi tõesti pole liikumas/lugemas. Nu ilus ilm, eks panen pöidla püsti siis! : )31 October 2017 14:20
Margus Meigo commented on Enari Kiis's post.
Group: Transport Viljandi <---> Tallinn/ Tartu
VIljandist Tartusse 16:20 / viieks
Kui kelegil tasuta küüti võimalik anda, et Eesti informatsiooni maastiku arendamisele saaksin kaasa aidata, siis antke teada
Tartust tagasi Viljandisse peale kaheksat või homme enne lõunat
5229041 (sms, mul telefonil helisemise funktsoon ei toimi)
Üritus kuhu ka teistel soovitan piiluda kes ensüklopeedia ja suure datag suundadega soovivad kursis olla:
https://ee.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata_workshops_with_Asaf_Bartov_in_2017_(Tallinn,_Tartu)
Tänud!https://ee.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata_workshops_with_Asaf_Bartov_in_2017_(Tallinn,_Tartu)
31 October 2017 13:01
Margus Meigo commented on Kertu Ütt's post.
Group: Tartu-Viljandi-Tartu
VIljandist Tartusse 16:20 / viieks
Kui kelegil tasuta küüti võimalik anda, et Eesti informatsiooni maastiku arendamisele saaksin kaasa aidata, siis antke teada
Tartust tagasi Viljandisse peale kaheksat või homme enne lõunat
5229041 (sms, mul telefonil helisemise funktsoon ei toimi)
Üritus kuhu ka teistel soovitan piiluda kes ensüklopeedia ja suure datag suundadega soovivad kursis olla:
https://ee.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata_workshops_with_Asaf_Bartov_in_2017_(Tallinn,_Tartu)
Tänud!https://ee.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata_workshops_with_Asaf_Bartov_in_2017_(Tallinn,_Tartu)
31 October 2017 13:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// time when it starts also good,
this is my usual working more //unless repetitive or physical work
this is my usual working more //unless repetitive or physical work
31 October 2017 00:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
the thing i DO...(if i would be able to do) would also help to resolve that problems easy by creating by deciders who want to change something or more: correct these corners that has not been looked at with large enough group
and there will be list of corners and groups of correcter if someone want to overlook and " join to ideology", correction approval or at least they have place, where they can insert their version, and it will be publicly lookable by them self and others in future times,
when someone will figure out,
how to turn their idea in to scheme,
that computer can use that looks "Pre Organised informationData with labels", to print out output that makes sense.
Also in Next to Talk, the Debate section,
Where serious arguments happen about various importance's
and there will be list of corners and groups of correcter if someone want to overlook and " join to ideology", correction approval or at least they have place, where they can insert their version, and it will be publicly lookable by them self and others in future times,
when someone will figure out,
how to turn their idea in to scheme,
that computer can use that looks "Pre Organised informationData with labels", to print out output that makes sense.
Also in Next to Talk, the Debate section,
Where serious arguments happen about various importance's
31 October 2017 00:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
another problem,
Who decides what is six main articles to display in AlphaBet Google, and are they best, besides few random ones (that is perhaps good idea to have some random ones also running, in public display places, MOST viewed OPTION from any internet usage googelings, are this 7 first links shown to these who type "wikipedia" in browser and then google will show the site.. and will keep doing that eventually most of life, to enter to places... even if only first time, is still that most reasonable to mention positive lists in top, something that is clearly agreeable )
Who decides what is six main articles to display in AlphaBet Google, and are they best, besides few random ones (that is perhaps good idea to have some random ones also running, in public display places, MOST viewed OPTION from any internet usage googelings, are this 7 first links shown to these who type "wikipedia" in browser and then google will show the site.. and will keep doing that eventually most of life, to enter to places... even if only first time, is still that most reasonable to mention positive lists in top, something that is clearly agreeable )
31 October 2017 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// one SERIOUS truble in my personal mind/politics//
is this:
and while we are at it, we must, also change , give opportunity to choose Pentagram free interpretations about Admins and Top users,
It is like forced Chrome and unlike other browser removable five stars in right upper corners and in most popular websites inner sections at least, in pre 2017 short period, at least by iMage's and fashion,
// i hope no one minds, that i share idea here just in case i am unable to put it in time readable , argumented clean version (with correct
// someone might say, that we even allow restore Swastika or twat logos ... but rather, i would even allow, what is needed as First master logo, (but still wish it would not be india Swastika but MUCH less communist Pentagram as it is related to Largest religion and Pop media paranoia and dark practices with clear self identified similar logos in resent times ),
But person must have option to
"Remember settings in this browser"
// (based on browser ID !! from website who reconfigured it self according to user need, no cookie!)
and "Make just User account (also possible to make Editor account up to Certified Editor / + similar to Facebook Editor Community)
is this:
and while we are at it, we must, also change , give opportunity to choose Pentagram free interpretations about Admins and Top users,
It is like forced Chrome and unlike other browser removable five stars in right upper corners and in most popular websites inner sections at least, in pre 2017 short period, at least by iMage's and fashion,
// i hope no one minds, that i share idea here just in case i am unable to put it in time readable , argumented clean version (with correct
// someone might say, that we even allow restore Swastika or twat logos ... but rather, i would even allow, what is needed as First master logo, (but still wish it would not be india Swastika but MUCH less communist Pentagram as it is related to Largest religion and Pop media paranoia and dark practices with clear self identified similar logos in resent times ),
But person must have option to
"Remember settings in this browser"
// (based on browser ID !! from website who reconfigured it self according to user need, no cookie!)
and "Make just User account (also possible to make Editor account up to Certified Editor / + similar to Facebook Editor Community)
30 October 2017 23:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I am also of interest in:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1Kx4cZ3GCGU/maxresdefault.jpg
// and reality about how many real things from there i am interested, is also many not just one truth
INterested in Rich , many ways
and other services across the movie screen: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1Kx4cZ3GCGU/maxresdefault.jpg (YouTube3000 × 1688)
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1Kx4cZ3GCGU/maxresdefault.jpg
// and reality about how many real things from there i am interested, is also many not just one truth
INterested in Rich , many ways
and other services across the movie screen: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1Kx4cZ3GCGU/maxresdefault.jpg (YouTube3000 × 1688)
30 October 2017 23:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// this is ... willl be easily understandable,
prototype easily understandable
for public
can make with few thousands (in truth few hundred),
__ __
will You recommend any crowd funding for that or Knowledge Accelerators / Product Incubators
or will You be able to be as friendly first risk angel investor to give me that + thousand so i can remove my personal restrains
(or better two, so i can live also, in working mode in months
)
---
Perhaps to access knowledge i have to be in This state
but the state can be lost,
or bother some emotionally if stay same 0 for long years more,
This year income for my kind of people has been under 90 in half a year,
surely less then few hundred in last years, as long i remember,
soon after euro time.
Not that them can be fault, rather i look European Union - EU as great opportunity to restore a kingship
prototype easily understandable
for public
can make with few thousands (in truth few hundred),
__ __
will You recommend any crowd funding for that or Knowledge Accelerators / Product Incubators
or will You be able to be as friendly first risk angel investor to give me that + thousand so i can remove my personal restrains
(or better two, so i can live also, in working mode in months
)
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Perhaps to access knowledge i have to be in This state
but the state can be lost,
or bother some emotionally if stay same 0 for long years more,
This year income for my kind of people has been under 90 in half a year,
surely less then few hundred in last years, as long i remember,
soon after euro time.
Not that them can be fault, rather i look European Union - EU as great opportunity to restore a kingship
30 October 2017 23:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Meaning: Bigger the Number of Logged IN Wikipedia users that has Voted for Alternative Versions, More it will be upfront,
Lesser there is Sub versions of You, (that are Certified as real, connected to real people)
the more original and rare You are as Article Version (EG. Right side of politics, might me many versions as there is so many, good way even to many to count, but there is lesser Astrological, mathematical or Shamanic Wizard interpretations, meanings, that is accepted by Accepted Originals (versions of WikiArtikle that is Truthfuly singed as not a scam and presented as known best truth or as self feeling /that must present like this/) or "Collections of Answers and their Versions" by Knowledge Managers... it can be as extension of language option or entire new way that is if needed scientifically tested as understandable to more then 5 CERTIFIEDpeople, or if you are Genius then just by one
(everyone who's reality is ) )
Lesser there is Sub versions of You, (that are Certified as real, connected to real people)
the more original and rare You are as Article Version (EG. Right side of politics, might me many versions as there is so many, good way even to many to count, but there is lesser Astrological, mathematical or Shamanic Wizard interpretations, meanings, that is accepted by Accepted Originals (versions of WikiArtikle that is Truthfuly singed as not a scam and presented as known best truth or as self feeling /that must present like this/) or "Collections of Answers and their Versions" by Knowledge Managers... it can be as extension of language option or entire new way that is if needed scientifically tested as understandable to more then 5 CERTIFIEDpeople, or if you are Genius then just by one
(everyone who's reality is ) )
30 October 2017 23:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as little scripts as possible // as needed and interesting alternative pages next to Old Knowing
as possible,
Separate liveCreation Box similar births of solution completion
as possible,
Separate liveCreation Box similar births of solution completion
30 October 2017 23:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So Wikipedia will be truthful and can start to fight for human speech freedom,
about, every certified alternative History or Alternative Knowing's
... if text have to be performed in hard terms, then community can vote 50/50 about if text will... (( // here is a bit hard thing, i am thinking to fill this cap to make it light, safe and not arrogant against no ones feelings or knowings))
... if the text, should have small PRE landing page, simple html, with explanation "this page has incorrect or unsafe words according to these organisations:
/(List_of_Complainers)//(List_of_Ideas)/
about, every certified alternative History or Alternative Knowing's
... if text have to be performed in hard terms, then community can vote 50/50 about if text will... (( // here is a bit hard thing, i am thinking to fill this cap to make it light, safe and not arrogant against no ones feelings or knowings))
... if the text, should have small PRE landing page, simple html, with explanation "this page has incorrect or unsafe words according to these organisations:
/(List_of_Complainers)//(List_of_Ideas)/
30 October 2017 23:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in old school way, agreed in one platform and then added in to drop down menu or better jet, user can choose the way they see extra reality
by customizing, choosing what versions they want to see
by customizing, choosing what versions they want to see
30 October 2017 22:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But yes this reality data that is attached to Wiipedia,
Must be super light , obviously
Must be super light , obviously
30 October 2017 22:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
30 October 2017 22:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You approve (vote up by public mentioning)
the development of religious+alternative(,- country people, scientific and Reformierakondiku various Political Historyry versions that can be chosen as easy as language s /
But if person can see many ideas, from many approved known versions point of views, they are interested to investigate/click and trust more (these views in my version at least are debated/created by "liveCreation Toolbox" // internet community platform costumed for Earth appropriate information exchanges for finding out if someones idea and version of Truth is better, different or the same in any_ones point of view to Cast The Right decision ...
// on Any ideological strong separation comes sub version based on nearest copy of the topic that applies to argumentative team
LIke: .org/wiki/BirthOfCountryMainArticle__(subMainversionName:BasedOnEsoterics_Subversions:V3:BasedOnArgumentsAgreedSeperations)
But the Sub versions makers would be more or less on their own, just the process who can make worth posts and who decides is any version worth...
// but eventually, if there is strong hold on alternative version of article, it should be easy to choose, the location where they are, from main article, perhaps top 3 alternative ones are shown, the ones with different kind of wordings and formatting's / solutions for showing the information
// #wikidata is basically the same thing in many ways i visualized, + for would that be great, if in future all sites, who exchange data, will have AcceptedTata format and website ideology SchemeFormat, that any user can choose based on self configuration how they display it on their screen or where they integrate the data on their website // only thing, on "DataSources" link in website, should show all linked data locations, to not be a leech
But data it self should not be copyrighted so much...
// everything under that line is just for my self + these who need
// Long years ago when i visualized that need, i called it ReallityLayers
But i have only been working on it under the hood, ... living the way i do have been made a bit impossible to focus on prototype
// workplace needed... i am vision orientated
__________________________
Bdw, FB is really romantic today:
the development of religious+alternative(,- country people, scientific and Reformierakondiku various Political Historyry versions that can be chosen as easy as language s /
But if person can see many ideas, from many approved known versions point of views, they are interested to investigate/click and trust more (these views in my version at least are debated/created by "liveCreation Toolbox" // internet community platform costumed for Earth appropriate information exchanges for finding out if someones idea and version of Truth is better, different or the same in any_ones point of view to Cast The Right decision ...
// on Any ideological strong separation comes sub version based on nearest copy of the topic that applies to argumentative team
LIke: .org/wiki/BirthOfCountryMainArticle__(subMainversionName:BasedOnEsoterics_Subversions:V3:BasedOnArgumentsAgreedSeperations)
But the Sub versions makers would be more or less on their own, just the process who can make worth posts and who decides is any version worth...
// but eventually, if there is strong hold on alternative version of article, it should be easy to choose, the location where they are, from main article, perhaps top 3 alternative ones are shown, the ones with different kind of wordings and formatting's / solutions for showing the information
// #wikidata is basically the same thing in many ways i visualized, + for would that be great, if in future all sites, who exchange data, will have AcceptedTata format and website ideology SchemeFormat, that any user can choose based on self configuration how they display it on their screen or where they integrate the data on their website // only thing, on "DataSources" link in website, should show all linked data locations, to not be a leech
But data it self should not be copyrighted so much...
// everything under that line is just for my self + these who need
// Long years ago when i visualized that need, i called it ReallityLayers
But i have only been working on it under the hood, ... living the way i do have been made a bit impossible to focus on prototype
// workplace needed... i am vision orientated
__________________________
Bdw, FB is really romantic today:
30 October 2017 22:53
Margus Meigo replied to Asaf Bartov's comment.
beautiful
30 October 2017 22:31
Margus Meigo replied to Asaf Bartov's comment.
Asaf Bartov i am
30 October 2017 22:30
Margus Meigo replied to Asaf Bartov's comment.
(the final mission)
30 October 2017 22:22
Margus Meigo replied to Asaf Bartov's comment.
First half,
but this just confused timelines,
why to give previous version, give every time new version , New people and possibility to complete
but this just confused timelines,
why to give previous version, give every time new version , New people and possibility to complete
30 October 2017 22:21
Margus Meigo replied to Asaf Bartov's comment.
Asaf Bartov Sweet!
30 October 2017 22:16
Margus Meigo replied to Asaf Bartov's comment.
i recommend even public human recording places, where, if they go, it will be recorded and uploaded with hashtags they prefer + A.I. applied attributes
//when brainstorm, philosophy moments
//when brainstorm, philosophy moments
30 October 2017 22:16
Margus Meigo replied to Asaf Bartov's comment.
Asaf Bartov How there can be wersion already , ARE YOU TIME TRANSPORTER
(i mean the Tartu, Estonia event ... Estonians need Estonian Version You know,
You team and You must take care, that every new public event gets recorded, so if someone needs they have copy )
(i mean the Tartu, Estonia event ... Estonians need Estonian Version You know,
You team and You must take care, that every new public event gets recorded, so if someone needs they have copy )
30 October 2017 22:13
Margus Meigo replied to Asaf Bartov's comment.
I hoped i can promote my revolutionary Upgrade for Wikipedia, but i have not jet been able to provide prototype
but is easy to provide prototype, it is just stuck as only silly reason, behind few thousand euros,
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Would have been great to promote my idea through You in there,
i am under (1)56kbps right now, so is a bit hard to jump around in web places in these days
-
But my another products also is hoped to spike up new internet browser data sharing standard (or, as this name is Copyrighted perhaps, i would call it: )
// one moment, i post that, and then / edit /
// many problems and things i can recommend to rise walue of Facebook but have not get
but is easy to provide prototype, it is just stuck as only silly reason, behind few thousand euros,
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Would have been great to promote my idea through You in there,
i am under (1)56kbps right now, so is a bit hard to jump around in web places in these days
-
But my another products also is hoped to spike up new internet browser data sharing standard (or, as this name is Copyrighted perhaps, i would call it: )
// one moment, i post that, and then / edit /
// many problems and things i can recommend to rise walue of Facebook but have not get
30 October 2017 22:12
Margus Meigo replied to Asaf Bartov's comment.
It will be recorded & uploaded public Youtube, in full?
30 October 2017 22:04
Margus Meigo replied to Asaf Bartov's comment.
I understand
30 October 2017 22:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
//draft
30 October 2017 22:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Õpiveski
(pean netist eemal olema, ei saa hästi uurida veel praegu)29 October 2017 17:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Õpiveski
oot see link vist kindlasti pole, kuid "Nutikate Ideede Labor" oli kindlasti, suht kindlasti29 October 2017 17:24
Margus Meigo commented on Silvar Muru's post.
Group: Õpiveski
Nutikate ideede labor
Aga seda peab nüüd uurima, kas Nemad: www.nutilabor.ee/eesti-kool-ootab-nutikaid-ideid/
v keegi teinehttp://www.nutilabor.ee/eesti-kool-ootab-nutikaid-ideid/
29 October 2017 17:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aastal 1967 asus ta tööle ajakirjanikuna Eesti Televisioonis. Ta juhtis ETV-s muu hulgas saatesarju "Ajurünnak", "Prillitoos", "Mõtleme veel" ja "Nõukoda". Aastatel 1990–92 oli ta peadirektori asetäitja ja 1992–1997 ETV peadirektor, 2000–2012 Ringhäälingu- ja Rahvusringhäälingunõukogu liige ning 2010–2012 Eesti Rahvusringhäälingu nõukogu esimees [1] .
Hagi Šein on stsenaristi ja režissöörina teinud mitmeid dokumentaalfilme, nt "Ratastoolitants" (1986), "Raudrohutee" (1985) ja "Lepatriinutalv" (1989) [2].
Ta on kirjutanud uurimusi Eesti televisiooni ajaloost, olulisemad neist on:
Suur teleraamat (TEA Kirjastus 2005)
Televisioon Eestis 1955–2004. Rmt: Meediasüsteem ja meediakasutus Eestis 1965–2004. (Tartu Ülikooli Kirjastus 2004).
Eesti telemaastik 1991–2001. Uurimused. Diskussioon. Teabekogud." (Tartu Ülikooli Kirjastus 2002)
Šein on õpetanud teleeriala Tartu Ülikoolis (1976–1986). 1997–2003 töötas ta Concordia Rahvusvahelise Ülikooli meediateaduskonna dekaanina, peale seda jätkas tööd Audentese Ülikoolis (2003–2006) ja Tallinna Ülikooli Balti Filmi- ja Meediakoolis (õppedirektor ja direktori kt, 2006–2011). Hetkel on ta Tallinna Ülikooli Balti Filmi- ja Meediakooli televisiooni õppejõud ja meedia osakonna juhataja ning Eesti filmi andmebaasi peatoimetaja. Ta on ka Eesti Filmi Instituudi nõukogu ja Eesti Rahvusarhiivi nõukogu liige.
Hagi Šein on Sotsiaaldemokraatliku erakonna liige. Ta on olnud Eestimaa Rahvarinde eestseisuse liige, Eestimaa Rahvuste Foorumi president, Tallinna linna volikogu liige (2001–2004), Vabariigi Presidendi esindaja rahvusvähemuste ümarlauas ning Vabariigi Presidendi akadeemilise nõukoja liige (2002–2007).
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagi_%C5%A0ein
Hagi Šein (ka Hagi Shein) (sündinud 13. septembril 1945 Tallinnas) on juudi päritolu Eesti ajakirjanik, meediajuht ja -õppejõud.
Hagi Šein lõpetas aastal 1963 Tallinna 21. Keskkooli ning aastal 1973 Tartu ülikooli ajaloo ja sotsioloogia erialal. 2001. aastal kaitses ta Tartu Ülikoolis teadusmagistrikraadi ajakirjanduse alal.
Hagi Šein on stsenaristi ja režissöörina teinud mitmeid dokumentaalfilme, nt "Ratastoolitants" (1986), "Raudrohutee" (1985) ja "Lepatriinutalv" (1989) [2].
Ta on kirjutanud uurimusi Eesti televisiooni ajaloost, olulisemad neist on:
Suur teleraamat (TEA Kirjastus 2005)
Televisioon Eestis 1955–2004. Rmt: Meediasüsteem ja meediakasutus Eestis 1965–2004. (Tartu Ülikooli Kirjastus 2004).
Eesti telemaastik 1991–2001. Uurimused. Diskussioon. Teabekogud." (Tartu Ülikooli Kirjastus 2002)
Šein on õpetanud teleeriala Tartu Ülikoolis (1976–1986). 1997–2003 töötas ta Concordia Rahvusvahelise Ülikooli meediateaduskonna dekaanina, peale seda jätkas tööd Audentese Ülikoolis (2003–2006) ja Tallinna Ülikooli Balti Filmi- ja Meediakoolis (õppedirektor ja direktori kt, 2006–2011). Hetkel on ta Tallinna Ülikooli Balti Filmi- ja Meediakooli televisiooni õppejõud ja meedia osakonna juhataja ning Eesti filmi andmebaasi peatoimetaja. Ta on ka Eesti Filmi Instituudi nõukogu ja Eesti Rahvusarhiivi nõukogu liige.
Hagi Šein on Sotsiaaldemokraatliku erakonna liige. Ta on olnud Eestimaa Rahvarinde eestseisuse liige, Eestimaa Rahvuste Foorumi president, Tallinna linna volikogu liige (2001–2004), Vabariigi Presidendi esindaja rahvusvähemuste ümarlauas ning Vabariigi Presidendi akadeemilise nõukoja liige (2002–2007).
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagi_%C5%A0ein
Hagi Šein (ka Hagi Shein) (sündinud 13. septembril 1945 Tallinnas) on juudi päritolu Eesti ajakirjanik, meediajuht ja -õppejõud.
Hagi Šein lõpetas aastal 1963 Tallinna 21. Keskkooli ning aastal 1973 Tartu ülikooli ajaloo ja sotsioloogia erialal. 2001. aastal kaitses ta Tartu Ülikoolis teadusmagistrikraadi ajakirjanduse alal.
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagi_%C5%A0ein
29 October 2017 04:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Omastamises kahtlustatav Tallinna TV juht Toomas Lepp vabanes reedel kinnipidamiselt, sest prokuratuur ei taotlenud tema vahistamist.
Kolmapäeval pidas keskkriminaalpolitsei kinni Lepa, Tallinna TV toimetaja Mart Ummelase ning KVA Telecom omaniku Valter Kraavi ja tema abikaasa Lea Kraavi, kes on Lepa firma Videomeedia raamatupidaja.
Esialgse kahtlustuse järgi on Toomas Lepp lasknud mitme aasta vältel maksta Tallinna Televisioonil temaga seotud ettevõttele igakuiselt tasu teenuste eest, mida tegelikult ei osutatud. Praegu on alust arvata, et sellega on Tallinna Televisioonile tekitatud kahju suurusjärgus paarsada tuhat eurot.
Mart Ummelass vabastati juba kolmapäeval. TTV peatas temaga töösuhte esialgu kuni 15. jaanuarini. Lepp esitas juba kolmapäeval Tallinna TV nõukogu esimehele avalduse juhatuse liikme ametikohalt tagasiastumiseks.
Lepp osales täna telekanali nõukogu koosolekul, kus otsustati vabastada ta ametist ja mitte maksta talle hüvitist, vahendas Postimees.
Toomas Lepp vältis täna ajakirjandusega suhtlemist.
"Toomas Lepp ise ütleb, et ta endal süüd ei näe. Ütleme nii, et otsustamise aluseks oli meil ka tema enda avaldus, aga me kutsusime ta tagasi sellele avaldusele viitamata," selgitas TTV nõukogu esimees Allan Alaküla, kes enda sõnul ei teadnud, et Lepp kasutab firmat, mis tegelikult TTV-le teenust ei osutanud.
Seda, et Toomas Lepa ametist vabastamine tõi TTV-sse suure rõõmupeo, Alaküla ei usu. "Tallinna Televisiooni maine on saanud küllaltki suure kahju ja see ei saa ühtki Tallinna TV patriooti rõõmsaks teha. Ma tõesti arvan, et toimetuses töötavad selle jaama patrioodid," ütles Alaküla "Aktuaalsele kaamerale".
Linnatelevisiooni juhi kohale tehakse avalik konkurss, selle toimumiseni juhib telekanalit praegune ainus juhatuse liige Toomas Raag.
http://www.err.ee/578842/toomas-lepp-vabanes-kinnipidamiselt-ttv-vabastas-ta-ametist
Kolmapäeval pidas keskkriminaalpolitsei kinni Lepa, Tallinna TV toimetaja Mart Ummelase ning KVA Telecom omaniku Valter Kraavi ja tema abikaasa Lea Kraavi, kes on Lepa firma Videomeedia raamatupidaja.
Esialgse kahtlustuse järgi on Toomas Lepp lasknud mitme aasta vältel maksta Tallinna Televisioonil temaga seotud ettevõttele igakuiselt tasu teenuste eest, mida tegelikult ei osutatud. Praegu on alust arvata, et sellega on Tallinna Televisioonile tekitatud kahju suurusjärgus paarsada tuhat eurot.
Mart Ummelass vabastati juba kolmapäeval. TTV peatas temaga töösuhte esialgu kuni 15. jaanuarini. Lepp esitas juba kolmapäeval Tallinna TV nõukogu esimehele avalduse juhatuse liikme ametikohalt tagasiastumiseks.
Lepp osales täna telekanali nõukogu koosolekul, kus otsustati vabastada ta ametist ja mitte maksta talle hüvitist, vahendas Postimees.
Toomas Lepp vältis täna ajakirjandusega suhtlemist.
"Toomas Lepp ise ütleb, et ta endal süüd ei näe. Ütleme nii, et otsustamise aluseks oli meil ka tema enda avaldus, aga me kutsusime ta tagasi sellele avaldusele viitamata," selgitas TTV nõukogu esimees Allan Alaküla, kes enda sõnul ei teadnud, et Lepp kasutab firmat, mis tegelikult TTV-le teenust ei osutanud.
Seda, et Toomas Lepa ametist vabastamine tõi TTV-sse suure rõõmupeo, Alaküla ei usu. "Tallinna Televisiooni maine on saanud küllaltki suure kahju ja see ei saa ühtki Tallinna TV patriooti rõõmsaks teha. Ma tõesti arvan, et toimetuses töötavad selle jaama patrioodid," ütles Alaküla "Aktuaalsele kaamerale".
Linnatelevisiooni juhi kohale tehakse avalik konkurss, selle toimumiseni juhib telekanalit praegune ainus juhatuse liige Toomas Raag.
http://www.err.ee/578842/toomas-lepp-vabanes-kinnipidamiselt-ttv-vabastas-ta-ametist
http://www.err.ee/578842/toomas-lepp-vabanes-kinnipidamiselt-ttv-vabastas-ta-ametist
29 October 2017 04:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Toomas Lepp (Tallinna Televisioon (TTV) ja Eesti Televisioon juht, )
// kunagi kandis ETV nime Tallinna Televisioonistuudio (TTS)
"Eesti Televisiooni juhid selgitasid , miks Eesti Televisioon hakkab taas reklaami näitama, reporter Vallo Kelmsaar. ETV peadirektor Toomas Lepp. Eetris: 04.05.1999. ASDAT-2050.6."
https://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/39096
// kunagi kandis ETV nime Tallinna Televisioonistuudio (TTS)
"Eesti Televisiooni juhid selgitasid , miks Eesti Televisioon hakkab taas reklaami näitama, reporter Vallo Kelmsaar. ETV peadirektor Toomas Lepp. Eetris: 04.05.1999. ASDAT-2050.6."
https://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/39096
https://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/39096
29 October 2017 04:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2004:
"3. mail 1999 saavutasid kultuuriministeeriumi ning erakanalite ja Eesti Televisiooni juhid põhimõttelise kokkuleppe, et reklaam peab avalik-õiguslikust televisioonist kaduma. Eesti Televisioon (ETV) saab edaspidi raha erakanalitelt riigieelarvesse kogutavaist ringhäälingulubade tasudest.
Kultuuriminister Signe Kivi ütles, et ta teeb Riigikogule ettepaneku hakata kiiresti menetlema ringhäälinguseaduse muutmise ettepanekut, mille esitas ETV peadirektor Toomas Lepp. Lepp keelustaks ETV rahastamise reklaami müügist ning kehtestaks erakanalitele väljastatavatele ringhäälingulubadele sellise tasu, mis tagab ETV rahastamise.
TV-kanalite kokkuleppe kohaselt valitseb 30. juunini telemaastikul kodurahu ja selle ajani ETV reklaame ei näita.
Hetkeseis: Kodurahu ei kestnud toona kuigi kaua. Praeguseks peaks reklaam olema ETVst kadunud, kuid varjatud reklaami kohtab endiselt, nt saame teada, milline firma on saatejuhte riietanud (nt ?Terehommikust?) vms.
http://www.aripaev.ee/uudised/2004/05/13/tv-kanalid-leppisid-kokku
// riietust reklaamib #Terevisioon ediselt veel
"3. mail 1999 saavutasid kultuuriministeeriumi ning erakanalite ja Eesti Televisiooni juhid põhimõttelise kokkuleppe, et reklaam peab avalik-õiguslikust televisioonist kaduma. Eesti Televisioon (ETV) saab edaspidi raha erakanalitelt riigieelarvesse kogutavaist ringhäälingulubade tasudest.
Kultuuriminister Signe Kivi ütles, et ta teeb Riigikogule ettepaneku hakata kiiresti menetlema ringhäälinguseaduse muutmise ettepanekut, mille esitas ETV peadirektor Toomas Lepp. Lepp keelustaks ETV rahastamise reklaami müügist ning kehtestaks erakanalitele väljastatavatele ringhäälingulubadele sellise tasu, mis tagab ETV rahastamise.
TV-kanalite kokkuleppe kohaselt valitseb 30. juunini telemaastikul kodurahu ja selle ajani ETV reklaame ei näita.
Hetkeseis: Kodurahu ei kestnud toona kuigi kaua. Praeguseks peaks reklaam olema ETVst kadunud, kuid varjatud reklaami kohtab endiselt, nt saame teada, milline firma on saatejuhte riietanud (nt ?Terehommikust?) vms.
http://www.aripaev.ee/uudised/2004/05/13/tv-kanalid-leppisid-kokku
// riietust reklaamib #Terevisioon ediselt veel
http://www.aripaev.ee/uudised/2004/05/13/tv-kanalid-leppisid-kokku
29 October 2017 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nõukogu valis ühineva ringhäälingu esimeseks juhiks senise Eesti Raadio juhi Allikmaa.
Planeeritust mitu tundi kauem kestnud koosoleku järel ütles nõukogu liige Peeter Kreitzberg, et Allikmaa osutus valituks hoolimata sellest, et tema taga nähakse ühe partei (Reformierakonna – toim) eelistust. Kui palju hääli Allikmaa sai, ei nõustunud Kreitzberg avaldama.
Kümnest nõukogu liikmest osales hääletusel üheksa, samuti kandideerinud Andres Jõesaar oma häält ei andnud. Välismaal puhkusel viibiv Villu Reiljan saatis oma hääle SMS-iga. Ametisse saamiseks pidi Allikmaa koguma vähemalt seitse häält.
“Kõik kolm kandidaati oleks oma rolli ilusti välja mänginud, aga Margus Allikmaaga on seotud väikseimad riskid,” ütles Kreitzberg ning lisas, et imekombel suutis nõukogu otsuse langetada esimese hääletusvooruga.
Allikmaa tänas nõukogu
“Ma olen nõukogule väga tänulik sümpaatse ja kiire otsuse eest, sest juhi leidmine jäi väga viimase hetke peale,” ütles otsusest kuuldes Margus Allikmaa. Tema sõnul peab ta esimese ülesandena kiiresti välja töötama rahvusringhäälingu uue arengukava.
Allikmaa ei nõustunud veel ütlema, kes on need neli inimest, keda ta enda kõrval rahvusringhäälingu juhatuses näha soovib. “Tahaks nendega enne ise rääkida ja saada lõpliku kinnituse,” lausus ta. Küll aga ütles ta, et kindlasti soovib televisiooni alles jätta ETV praeguse juhi Ainar Ruussaare. “Ruussaar küll ise on avaldanud arvamust, et ta juhatusse kuuluda ei tahaks,” nentis uus juht.
SAMAL TEEMAL:
Allikmaa: ETV turuosa peaks olema suurem (2) 23.05.2007
Allikmaa kutsus rahvusringhäälingu juhatusse Jaak Raie (1) 23.05.2007
Kolmest kandidaadist esimesena kutsuti nõukogu ette oma visiooni kaitsma Sulev Valner, keda komisjon pigistas üle kolmveerand tunni. Valner nentis, et nõukogu paistis tema ideed küll hästi vastu võtma, ent sellegipoolest on üksmeelset otsust raske teha. “Tegelikult on uue juhi valimine juba ammu hiljaks jäänud, sest kahe organisatsiooni liitmiseks ei piisa nädalasest ettevalmistusest. Ettevalmistused peaks kestma aasta või kaks kindlasti,” arvas Valner.
Ligi tund hiljem koosolekuruumist väljunud Jõesaar oli veendunud, et teda kindlasti ei valita. “Olgem ausad, Allikmaa vastu ei saa. Kui ma ise hääletada saaksin, hääletaksin ka tema poolt.” Küsimusele, miks Jõesaar ise siis üldse kandideeris, vastas ta, et Allikmaa on teinud küll väga head tööd, aga konkurentsi võib küll pakkuda.
Ringhäälingujuhid
ETV ja ER-i juhtimine
Eesti Raadio juhid
alates 1990ndatest
•• Peeter Sookruus 1990–1992
•• Herkki Haldre 1992–1994
•• Peeter Sookruus 1994–1997
•• Ain Saarna 1997–2004
•• Margus Allikmaa 2004–
Eesti Televisiooni juhid
alates 1990ndatest
•• Martin Siimann 1990–1992
•• Hagi Šein 1992–1997
•• Toomas Lepp 1997–1999
•• Tiina Kangro 1999–2000 KT
•• Aare Urm 2000–2002
•• Ilmar Raag, filmmaker 2002–2006
•• Ainar Ruussaar 2006–
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/eesti/nadala-parast-uhinevat-etv-d-ja-eesti-raadiot-juhib-margus-allikmaa?id=51088038
Eesti Televisiooni režissöörid (põhikohaga ETV-s)
Virve Aruoja
Helle Karis
Tõnis Kask
Virve Koppel
--
Erinevatel aegadel on Eesti Televisioonis diktoriametit pidanud Ofelia Mikk, Zinaida Madissova, Ruth Peramets-Püss, Kalmer Tennosaar, Endel Sõerde, Alice Talvik, Ivi Kreen, Irena Safonova-Kromm, Aune Lahdenpera, Meeme Valtenberg, Mai Uus, Anneli Säilä, Merike Kass, Jaak Tamleht, Enn Eesmaa, Mare Neidlich-Taimre, Riho Mesilane, Marite Kallasma, Ewe Kaselaan, Piret Sauter, Tiina Pärn, Urmas Reitelmann, Urmas Ott, Merle Randma, Harri Kingo, Urmas Liiv, Margus Saar, Külli Palmsaar, Sirje Tennosaar, Sirje Eesmaa, Mare Haab, Urve Tiidus, Eero Raun, Tõnis Tirel, Hanneli Reili, Reet Liimets, Helene Tedre, Diana Lorents, Kristel Sarnet, Katrin Viirpalu, Indrek Birkan, Kadri Leping, Ott Ummelas, Riho Västrik, Natalia Malleus, Natalia Gurovits, Rita Väär, Ljudmilla Harlamova, Leonid Bronski, Margit Noor, Leili Lukas, Tõnu Aav, Härmo Saarm, Annika Hanson, Vilma Muru, Aarne Rannamäe,
Planeeritust mitu tundi kauem kestnud koosoleku järel ütles nõukogu liige Peeter Kreitzberg, et Allikmaa osutus valituks hoolimata sellest, et tema taga nähakse ühe partei (Reformierakonna – toim) eelistust. Kui palju hääli Allikmaa sai, ei nõustunud Kreitzberg avaldama.
Kümnest nõukogu liikmest osales hääletusel üheksa, samuti kandideerinud Andres Jõesaar oma häält ei andnud. Välismaal puhkusel viibiv Villu Reiljan saatis oma hääle SMS-iga. Ametisse saamiseks pidi Allikmaa koguma vähemalt seitse häält.
“Kõik kolm kandidaati oleks oma rolli ilusti välja mänginud, aga Margus Allikmaaga on seotud väikseimad riskid,” ütles Kreitzberg ning lisas, et imekombel suutis nõukogu otsuse langetada esimese hääletusvooruga.
Allikmaa tänas nõukogu
“Ma olen nõukogule väga tänulik sümpaatse ja kiire otsuse eest, sest juhi leidmine jäi väga viimase hetke peale,” ütles otsusest kuuldes Margus Allikmaa. Tema sõnul peab ta esimese ülesandena kiiresti välja töötama rahvusringhäälingu uue arengukava.
Allikmaa ei nõustunud veel ütlema, kes on need neli inimest, keda ta enda kõrval rahvusringhäälingu juhatuses näha soovib. “Tahaks nendega enne ise rääkida ja saada lõpliku kinnituse,” lausus ta. Küll aga ütles ta, et kindlasti soovib televisiooni alles jätta ETV praeguse juhi Ainar Ruussaare. “Ruussaar küll ise on avaldanud arvamust, et ta juhatusse kuuluda ei tahaks,” nentis uus juht.
SAMAL TEEMAL:
Allikmaa: ETV turuosa peaks olema suurem (2) 23.05.2007
Allikmaa kutsus rahvusringhäälingu juhatusse Jaak Raie (1) 23.05.2007
Kolmest kandidaadist esimesena kutsuti nõukogu ette oma visiooni kaitsma Sulev Valner, keda komisjon pigistas üle kolmveerand tunni. Valner nentis, et nõukogu paistis tema ideed küll hästi vastu võtma, ent sellegipoolest on üksmeelset otsust raske teha. “Tegelikult on uue juhi valimine juba ammu hiljaks jäänud, sest kahe organisatsiooni liitmiseks ei piisa nädalasest ettevalmistusest. Ettevalmistused peaks kestma aasta või kaks kindlasti,” arvas Valner.
Ligi tund hiljem koosolekuruumist väljunud Jõesaar oli veendunud, et teda kindlasti ei valita. “Olgem ausad, Allikmaa vastu ei saa. Kui ma ise hääletada saaksin, hääletaksin ka tema poolt.” Küsimusele, miks Jõesaar ise siis üldse kandideeris, vastas ta, et Allikmaa on teinud küll väga head tööd, aga konkurentsi võib küll pakkuda.
Ringhäälingujuhid
ETV ja ER-i juhtimine
Eesti Raadio juhid
alates 1990ndatest
•• Peeter Sookruus 1990–1992
•• Herkki Haldre 1992–1994
•• Peeter Sookruus 1994–1997
•• Ain Saarna 1997–2004
•• Margus Allikmaa 2004–
Eesti Televisiooni juhid
alates 1990ndatest
•• Martin Siimann 1990–1992
•• Hagi Šein 1992–1997
•• Toomas Lepp 1997–1999
•• Tiina Kangro 1999–2000 KT
•• Aare Urm 2000–2002
•• Ilmar Raag, filmmaker 2002–2006
•• Ainar Ruussaar 2006–
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/eesti/nadala-parast-uhinevat-etv-d-ja-eesti-raadiot-juhib-margus-allikmaa?id=51088038
Eesti Televisiooni režissöörid (põhikohaga ETV-s)
Virve Aruoja
Helle Karis
Tõnis Kask
Virve Koppel
--
Erinevatel aegadel on Eesti Televisioonis diktoriametit pidanud Ofelia Mikk, Zinaida Madissova, Ruth Peramets-Püss, Kalmer Tennosaar, Endel Sõerde, Alice Talvik, Ivi Kreen, Irena Safonova-Kromm, Aune Lahdenpera, Meeme Valtenberg, Mai Uus, Anneli Säilä, Merike Kass, Jaak Tamleht, Enn Eesmaa, Mare Neidlich-Taimre, Riho Mesilane, Marite Kallasma, Ewe Kaselaan, Piret Sauter, Tiina Pärn, Urmas Reitelmann, Urmas Ott, Merle Randma, Harri Kingo, Urmas Liiv, Margus Saar, Külli Palmsaar, Sirje Tennosaar, Sirje Eesmaa, Mare Haab, Urve Tiidus, Eero Raun, Tõnis Tirel, Hanneli Reili, Reet Liimets, Helene Tedre, Diana Lorents, Kristel Sarnet, Katrin Viirpalu, Indrek Birkan, Kadri Leping, Ott Ummelas, Riho Västrik, Natalia Malleus, Natalia Gurovits, Rita Väär, Ljudmilla Harlamova, Leonid Bronski, Margit Noor, Leili Lukas, Tõnu Aav, Härmo Saarm, Annika Hanson, Vilma Muru, Aarne Rannamäe,
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/eesti/nadala-parast-uhinevat-etv-d-ja-eesti-raadiot-juhib-margus-allikmaa?id=51088038
29 October 2017 04:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2000:
"Telerimaks jääb tulemata
Eesti televaatajail ei tasu karta, et nad peavad tulevikus teleri vaatamise eest peale maksma, sest nii ringhäälingunõukogu kui ka Eesti Televisiooni juhid ei näe selleks lihtsalt vajadust, kirjutab Postimees.
Ringhäälingunõukogu esimees Paul-Eerik Rummoo välistas võimaluse, et riik seaks miljonivõlga uppunud Eesti Televisiooni rahamurede leevendamiseks sisse nn telerimaksu, kuigi sellest on viimasel ajal räägitud. 'Ma ei seoks neid kahte asja omavahel,' märkis ta. 'Eesti Televisiooni rahalised raskused lubamaksu ei puuduta, sest sellest on räägitud juba varem.'
Telerimaksu idee käis rohkem kui nädal aega tagasi avalikkuse ees välja riigikogu Isamaaliidu fraktsiooni esimees Tiit Sinissaar. Kuigi maksumaksja on avalik-õigusliku televisiooni riigieelarve kaudu ka siiani kinni maksnud, oleks eraldi kogutav loamaks läbipaistvam, näidates täpselt, kui palju ikkagi ETV ülalpidamiseks raha saab, on mitmed meediaasjatundjad uue maksu eelist Postimehele põhjendanud.
Rummo ütles, et nn telerimaksu idee ei tulnud ainult Sinissaare suust, vaid käidi koalitsiooni koosolekul välja ühiselt kui üks maailmas levinud võimalus riigitelevisiooni ülalpidamiseks. 'Kahtlemata tuleb avalik-õigusliku televisiooni ülalpidamiseks mingi finantssüsteem leida, kuid lubamaksu kehtestamine on suhteliselt aegunud mudel,' osutas ta. 'See eeldaks ka ühiskondlikku kokkulepet, mida Eestis on raske saavutada.'
Ka ETV peadirektori kohusetäitja Tiina Kangro tunnistas, et riigitelevisiooni rahalistele raskustele vaatamata ei näe ta telerimaksu kehtestamises praktilist väärtust. Kangro täpsustas, et võimalikust telerimaksust oli juttu aastatel 1994 ja 1995, kuid juba siis otsustati sellest loobuda. 'Ma ei vaata sellele maksule praegu eriti lootusrikkalt,' tähendas Kangro.
ETV peadirektori kt rääkis, et praegu enamikus Euroopa riikides toimiv teleri lubamaks pärineb aegadest, kui vaatajal polnud võimalik kanalite vahel valida, kui polnud veel taevakanaleid ning domineeris avalik-õiguslik ringhääling.
http://www.aripaev.ee/uudised/2000/02/03/Telerimaks_jaab_tulemata
"Telerimaks jääb tulemata
Eesti televaatajail ei tasu karta, et nad peavad tulevikus teleri vaatamise eest peale maksma, sest nii ringhäälingunõukogu kui ka Eesti Televisiooni juhid ei näe selleks lihtsalt vajadust, kirjutab Postimees.
Ringhäälingunõukogu esimees Paul-Eerik Rummoo välistas võimaluse, et riik seaks miljonivõlga uppunud Eesti Televisiooni rahamurede leevendamiseks sisse nn telerimaksu, kuigi sellest on viimasel ajal räägitud. 'Ma ei seoks neid kahte asja omavahel,' märkis ta. 'Eesti Televisiooni rahalised raskused lubamaksu ei puuduta, sest sellest on räägitud juba varem.'
Telerimaksu idee käis rohkem kui nädal aega tagasi avalikkuse ees välja riigikogu Isamaaliidu fraktsiooni esimees Tiit Sinissaar. Kuigi maksumaksja on avalik-õigusliku televisiooni riigieelarve kaudu ka siiani kinni maksnud, oleks eraldi kogutav loamaks läbipaistvam, näidates täpselt, kui palju ikkagi ETV ülalpidamiseks raha saab, on mitmed meediaasjatundjad uue maksu eelist Postimehele põhjendanud.
Rummo ütles, et nn telerimaksu idee ei tulnud ainult Sinissaare suust, vaid käidi koalitsiooni koosolekul välja ühiselt kui üks maailmas levinud võimalus riigitelevisiooni ülalpidamiseks. 'Kahtlemata tuleb avalik-õigusliku televisiooni ülalpidamiseks mingi finantssüsteem leida, kuid lubamaksu kehtestamine on suhteliselt aegunud mudel,' osutas ta. 'See eeldaks ka ühiskondlikku kokkulepet, mida Eestis on raske saavutada.'
Ka ETV peadirektori kohusetäitja Tiina Kangro tunnistas, et riigitelevisiooni rahalistele raskustele vaatamata ei näe ta telerimaksu kehtestamises praktilist väärtust. Kangro täpsustas, et võimalikust telerimaksust oli juttu aastatel 1994 ja 1995, kuid juba siis otsustati sellest loobuda. 'Ma ei vaata sellele maksule praegu eriti lootusrikkalt,' tähendas Kangro.
ETV peadirektori kt rääkis, et praegu enamikus Euroopa riikides toimiv teleri lubamaks pärineb aegadest, kui vaatajal polnud võimalik kanalite vahel valida, kui polnud veel taevakanaleid ning domineeris avalik-õiguslik ringhääling.
http://www.aripaev.ee/uudised/2000/02/03/Telerimaks_jaab_tulemata
http://www.aripaev.ee/uudised/2000/02/03/Telerimaks_jaab_tulemata
29 October 2017 04:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muud huumorit ja ajalugu 1992:
"Esimees
Suur tänu! Rein Veidemann, teine küsimus.
R. Veidemann
Härra juhataja, lugupeetud ettekandja, kas ma saan õigesti aru, et teie eelnõuna esitatud mõtted lähtuvad ainult ühest eesmärgist – saada paigale Eesti Raadio ja Eesti Televisiooni juhid, aga teid ei huvita üldse, missuguseks kujuneb tulevikus raadio- ja televisioonialane seadusandlus ja Eesti Raadio ja Eesti Televisiooni staatus riigis, peaasi, et saaks juhid paika. Kas vastab tõele, et teile on tähtsam see, et edaspidine sõltub ainult juhtidest, mitte aga seadusest?
L. Vahtre
Ei, see ei vasta tõele.
R. Veidemann
Aga eelnõu orienteerub ju sellele.
L. Vahtre
Eelnõu tegin ma sellepärast niisuguse, et meie esimene eelnõu, milles üritati reguleerida neidsamu küsimusi, mida te praegu mainisite, kohtas raevukat vastuseisu. Et osutus võimatuks võtta see vastu ilma üle-eestilise skandaalita, olime sunnitud lähtuma sellest otsast, mida teie fraktsioon, härra Veidemann, pakkus, nimelt alustada Eesti Raadio ja Eesti Televisiooni peadirektoritest. Nende mõningase tegevuse järel ja koostöös valitsusega oleks siis võimalik edasi minna ka sellekohase seadusandluse koostamise ja vastuvõtmisega. Pean seda väga oluliseks.
Esimees
Suur tänu! Lembit Arro.
L. Arro
Lugupeetud juhataja, lugupeetud ettekandja! Me oleme selle küsimusega siin saalis päris palju aega raisanud ja paistab, et ka ettekandja tahab aega kokku hoida ja keelata küsimuste esitamist. Minu arvates oleks kõige kiirem lahendus võtta vastu kuningriiklaste esitatud otsus. Mis teie sellest arvate? Aitäh!
L. Vahtre
See jätaks ära võimaluse esitada teisi kandidaate ja oleks minu arvates väga ebademokraatlik.
Esimees
Suur tänu! Kalle Kulbok.
K. Kulbok
Kas see, kui Eesti Raadio ja Eesti Televisiooni kollektiivid on enamusdemokraatiaga oma otsuse langetanud, ei ole meie parlamendile hea enamusdemokraatia näide ja kas me ei peaks seda respekteerima?
L. Vahtre
Härra Kulbok, ma hindan sügavalt Eesti Raadio ja Eesti Televisiooni kollektiivide tahet. Vabandust, härra Kulbok, ma vastan teile. Aga ma palun meeles pidada, et Eesti Raadio ja Eesti Televisioon ei ole riik riigis, isegi mitte Torgu Kuningriik Eesti Vabariigis, ja seetõttu ei saa küsimust niimoodi püstitada, et Riigikogul siin midagi arvata ei olegi. Lõppude lõpuks on Riigikogu käes riigi rahakoti rauad ja need asutused hoitakse üleval riigi, see tähendab rahva rahaga. Ka meie vastutame selle eest, kes seal ametis on.
Esimees
Suur tänu, kolleeg Lauri Vahtre, rahvasaadikutel rohkem küsimusi ei ole. Kaasettekandeks palun kõnetooli kultuurikomisjoni esimehe härra Sulev Alajõe.
http://stenogrammid.riigikogu.ee/et/199212081000
08. detsember 1992
"Esimees
Suur tänu! Rein Veidemann, teine küsimus.
R. Veidemann
Härra juhataja, lugupeetud ettekandja, kas ma saan õigesti aru, et teie eelnõuna esitatud mõtted lähtuvad ainult ühest eesmärgist – saada paigale Eesti Raadio ja Eesti Televisiooni juhid, aga teid ei huvita üldse, missuguseks kujuneb tulevikus raadio- ja televisioonialane seadusandlus ja Eesti Raadio ja Eesti Televisiooni staatus riigis, peaasi, et saaks juhid paika. Kas vastab tõele, et teile on tähtsam see, et edaspidine sõltub ainult juhtidest, mitte aga seadusest?
L. Vahtre
Ei, see ei vasta tõele.
R. Veidemann
Aga eelnõu orienteerub ju sellele.
L. Vahtre
Eelnõu tegin ma sellepärast niisuguse, et meie esimene eelnõu, milles üritati reguleerida neidsamu küsimusi, mida te praegu mainisite, kohtas raevukat vastuseisu. Et osutus võimatuks võtta see vastu ilma üle-eestilise skandaalita, olime sunnitud lähtuma sellest otsast, mida teie fraktsioon, härra Veidemann, pakkus, nimelt alustada Eesti Raadio ja Eesti Televisiooni peadirektoritest. Nende mõningase tegevuse järel ja koostöös valitsusega oleks siis võimalik edasi minna ka sellekohase seadusandluse koostamise ja vastuvõtmisega. Pean seda väga oluliseks.
Esimees
Suur tänu! Lembit Arro.
L. Arro
Lugupeetud juhataja, lugupeetud ettekandja! Me oleme selle küsimusega siin saalis päris palju aega raisanud ja paistab, et ka ettekandja tahab aega kokku hoida ja keelata küsimuste esitamist. Minu arvates oleks kõige kiirem lahendus võtta vastu kuningriiklaste esitatud otsus. Mis teie sellest arvate? Aitäh!
L. Vahtre
See jätaks ära võimaluse esitada teisi kandidaate ja oleks minu arvates väga ebademokraatlik.
Esimees
Suur tänu! Kalle Kulbok.
K. Kulbok
Kas see, kui Eesti Raadio ja Eesti Televisiooni kollektiivid on enamusdemokraatiaga oma otsuse langetanud, ei ole meie parlamendile hea enamusdemokraatia näide ja kas me ei peaks seda respekteerima?
L. Vahtre
Härra Kulbok, ma hindan sügavalt Eesti Raadio ja Eesti Televisiooni kollektiivide tahet. Vabandust, härra Kulbok, ma vastan teile. Aga ma palun meeles pidada, et Eesti Raadio ja Eesti Televisioon ei ole riik riigis, isegi mitte Torgu Kuningriik Eesti Vabariigis, ja seetõttu ei saa küsimust niimoodi püstitada, et Riigikogul siin midagi arvata ei olegi. Lõppude lõpuks on Riigikogu käes riigi rahakoti rauad ja need asutused hoitakse üleval riigi, see tähendab rahva rahaga. Ka meie vastutame selle eest, kes seal ametis on.
Esimees
Suur tänu, kolleeg Lauri Vahtre, rahvasaadikutel rohkem küsimusi ei ole. Kaasettekandeks palun kõnetooli kultuurikomisjoni esimehe härra Sulev Alajõe.
http://stenogrammid.riigikogu.ee/et/199212081000
08. detsember 1992
29 October 2017 04:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aga muidu sümpaatse olemisega:
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29 October 2017 03:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2004:
"Ringhäälingunõukogu valis eile Eesti Raadio uueks juhatuse esimeheks endise kultuuriministri ja praeguse Tallinna abilinnapea Margus Allikmaa.
Viimasesse vooru ehk eilsele otsustamisele pääsesid endine Postimehe peatoimetaja ja praegu haridus- ja teadusministeeriumi pressiesindaja Urmas Klaas, Maalehe peatoimetaja Sulev Valner ning Margus Allikmaa.
?Allikmaa võitis napilt,? ütles ringhäälingunõukogu esimees Andres Jõesaar. Eesti Päevalehe andmeil võitis Allikmaa napilt Valneri ees.
Allikmaa sõnul saab tema üheks olulisemaks ülesandeks tagada kahe organisatsiooni, Eesti Raadio ja Eesti Televisiooni liitumine võimalikult valutult. ?Raadios on inimesed kartnud liitumisel kaotajaks jääda, aga tuleb teha nii, et kaotajaid poleks,? ütles Allikmaa, kes kultuuriministeeriumi kantsleri ja ministri kohal oli üks suuremaid liitumise kasuks kõnelejaid.
Varem aastaid Eesti Draamateatri direktorina töötanud Allikmaa tõdes, et on Eesti Raadio juhi kohast juba kaua mõelnud. ?Olen koolitanud end puhtalt sellise, loomingulise kollektiivi juhtimiseks,? ütles vastvalitu, kellel on 1998.-1999. aastast ka raadiotöö kogemus Trio grupis."
http://www.aripaev.ee/uudised/2004/04/13/EPL_Eesti_Raadiot_hakkab_juhtima_Margus_Allikmaa
ja
https://www.postimees.ee/1408197/eesti-raadio-uueks-juhiks-saab-margus-allikmaa
"Ringhäälingunõukogu (RHN) valis eile Eesti Raadio uueks juhiks Tallinna abilinnapea ja endise kultuuriministri Margus Allikmaa.
«Valik tuli teha heade ja väga heade kandidaatide hulgast,» ütles RHNi esimees Andres Jõesaar. Ta lisas, et määravaks sai Allikmaa kogemus kultuurielu juhtimisel ja teadlikkus meediaalal.
Raadioside ja -levi spetsialisti diplomiga Allikmaa ütles, et on aastaid ringhäälingu poole vaadanud. «Sümpaatne võiks olla toimetada inimestega, kes on loomult loomingulised,» tunnustas ta tulevasi kolleege. «Arvan oskavat motiveerida inimesi, kes valutavad südant ühiskonna asjade pärast.»
Allikmaa tõuseb Eesti Raadio juhiks ajal, kui päevakorras on tele ja raadio ühendamine. «Kuidas need kaks ühendada nii, et mõlemad võidaksid ja raadio ei kaotaks � see on minu üks esimesi ülesandeid,» ütles Allikmaa.
Praegu kuulub ta Reformierakonda, kuid vastavalt heale tavale peaks ta lähitulevikus parteist lahkuma.
Eesti Raadio juhi kabinetti kolib Allikmaa 1. juunil, kes saab tema asemel Tallinna abilinnapeaks, pole veel teada. (PM/BNS)
"Ringhäälingunõukogu valis eile Eesti Raadio uueks juhatuse esimeheks endise kultuuriministri ja praeguse Tallinna abilinnapea Margus Allikmaa.
Viimasesse vooru ehk eilsele otsustamisele pääsesid endine Postimehe peatoimetaja ja praegu haridus- ja teadusministeeriumi pressiesindaja Urmas Klaas, Maalehe peatoimetaja Sulev Valner ning Margus Allikmaa.
?Allikmaa võitis napilt,? ütles ringhäälingunõukogu esimees Andres Jõesaar. Eesti Päevalehe andmeil võitis Allikmaa napilt Valneri ees.
Allikmaa sõnul saab tema üheks olulisemaks ülesandeks tagada kahe organisatsiooni, Eesti Raadio ja Eesti Televisiooni liitumine võimalikult valutult. ?Raadios on inimesed kartnud liitumisel kaotajaks jääda, aga tuleb teha nii, et kaotajaid poleks,? ütles Allikmaa, kes kultuuriministeeriumi kantsleri ja ministri kohal oli üks suuremaid liitumise kasuks kõnelejaid.
Varem aastaid Eesti Draamateatri direktorina töötanud Allikmaa tõdes, et on Eesti Raadio juhi kohast juba kaua mõelnud. ?Olen koolitanud end puhtalt sellise, loomingulise kollektiivi juhtimiseks,? ütles vastvalitu, kellel on 1998.-1999. aastast ka raadiotöö kogemus Trio grupis."
http://www.aripaev.ee/uudised/2004/04/13/EPL_Eesti_Raadiot_hakkab_juhtima_Margus_Allikmaa
ja
https://www.postimees.ee/1408197/eesti-raadio-uueks-juhiks-saab-margus-allikmaa
"Ringhäälingunõukogu (RHN) valis eile Eesti Raadio uueks juhiks Tallinna abilinnapea ja endise kultuuriministri Margus Allikmaa.
«Valik tuli teha heade ja väga heade kandidaatide hulgast,» ütles RHNi esimees Andres Jõesaar. Ta lisas, et määravaks sai Allikmaa kogemus kultuurielu juhtimisel ja teadlikkus meediaalal.
Raadioside ja -levi spetsialisti diplomiga Allikmaa ütles, et on aastaid ringhäälingu poole vaadanud. «Sümpaatne võiks olla toimetada inimestega, kes on loomult loomingulised,» tunnustas ta tulevasi kolleege. «Arvan oskavat motiveerida inimesi, kes valutavad südant ühiskonna asjade pärast.»
Allikmaa tõuseb Eesti Raadio juhiks ajal, kui päevakorras on tele ja raadio ühendamine. «Kuidas need kaks ühendada nii, et mõlemad võidaksid ja raadio ei kaotaks � see on minu üks esimesi ülesandeid,» ütles Allikmaa.
Praegu kuulub ta Reformierakonda, kuid vastavalt heale tavale peaks ta lähitulevikus parteist lahkuma.
Eesti Raadio juhi kabinetti kolib Allikmaa 1. juunil, kes saab tema asemel Tallinna abilinnapeaks, pole veel teada. (PM/BNS)
http://www.aripaev.ee/uudised/2004/04/13/EPL_Eesti_Raadiot_hakkab_juhtima_Margus_Allikmaa
29 October 2017 03:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2009 ja 2014 :
Irooniline, kuid:
" Pikaaegse reformierakondlase Margus Allikmaa valimine Eesti Rahvusringhäälingu juhatuse esimeheks on algusest peale olnud täiesti uskumatu pretsedent. Mitte ükski demokraatlik riik ei anna kontrolli riikliku meedia üle ühele kindlale erakonnale. Laadne valik oli iseloomulik ning täiesti normaalne ühele teisele riigile või täpsemalt riikide liidule, mida õnneks enam ligi kakskümmend aastat ei eksisteeri.
Reformierakonna ja Allikmaa soov taaskehtestada Eestis Vaikiv ajastu pole Keskerakonna jaoks vastuvõetav ning võttes arvesse üha sagenevaid ohumärke, peab Keskerakond õigeks Margus Allikmaa väljavahetamist poliitiliselt sõltumatu isiku vastu. "
http://priittoobal.blogspot.com.ee/2009/02/allikmaa-tuleb-valja-vahetada.html
ja
Peaaegu samasuguse algusega:
"Viimastel nädalatel on Eesti Rahvusringhäälingu (ERR) juhatuse esimehe, reformierakondliku taustaga Margus Allikmaa usaldusväärsus sattunud tõsise kahtluse alla. Kuivõrd hr Allikmaa kolleegid ERR-ist heidavad talle muuhulgas ette sekkumist ajakirjandusvabadusse, on kohane meenutada, mis toimus tema juhtimisel eelmise aasta juunikuus seonduvalt kampaaniaga “Kaitskem üheskoos perekonda!”."
http://objektiiv.ee/margus-allikmaa-on-err-i-juhi-kohale-sobimatu/
// Okey Reformi taust siis on mingi selline asi mida todamoodi välja tuua,
kui ei ole kindel, kas, kui tegu oleks Keskerakonnaga, Või EKRE ga kas siis kasutaks, keegi väljendit oma erakonndlasest rääkides sedasi:
" xxxx erakona taustaga..."
Irooniline, kuid:
" Pikaaegse reformierakondlase Margus Allikmaa valimine Eesti Rahvusringhäälingu juhatuse esimeheks on algusest peale olnud täiesti uskumatu pretsedent. Mitte ükski demokraatlik riik ei anna kontrolli riikliku meedia üle ühele kindlale erakonnale. Laadne valik oli iseloomulik ning täiesti normaalne ühele teisele riigile või täpsemalt riikide liidule, mida õnneks enam ligi kakskümmend aastat ei eksisteeri.
Reformierakonna ja Allikmaa soov taaskehtestada Eestis Vaikiv ajastu pole Keskerakonna jaoks vastuvõetav ning võttes arvesse üha sagenevaid ohumärke, peab Keskerakond õigeks Margus Allikmaa väljavahetamist poliitiliselt sõltumatu isiku vastu. "
http://priittoobal.blogspot.com.ee/2009/02/allikmaa-tuleb-valja-vahetada.html
ja
Peaaegu samasuguse algusega:
"Viimastel nädalatel on Eesti Rahvusringhäälingu (ERR) juhatuse esimehe, reformierakondliku taustaga Margus Allikmaa usaldusväärsus sattunud tõsise kahtluse alla. Kuivõrd hr Allikmaa kolleegid ERR-ist heidavad talle muuhulgas ette sekkumist ajakirjandusvabadusse, on kohane meenutada, mis toimus tema juhtimisel eelmise aasta juunikuus seonduvalt kampaaniaga “Kaitskem üheskoos perekonda!”."
http://objektiiv.ee/margus-allikmaa-on-err-i-juhi-kohale-sobimatu/
// Okey Reformi taust siis on mingi selline asi mida todamoodi välja tuua,
kui ei ole kindel, kas, kui tegu oleks Keskerakonnaga, Või EKRE ga kas siis kasutaks, keegi väljendit oma erakonndlasest rääkides sedasi:
" xxxx erakona taustaga..."
http://priittoobal.blogspot.com.ee/2009/02/allikmaa-tuleb-valja-vahetada.html
29 October 2017 03:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2016;
"Eesti Rahvusringhäälingu (ERR) juhatuse esimees Margus Allikmaa teatas reedel ringhäälingunõukogu koosolekul, et kandideerib Eesti Kultuurkapitali juhi kohale.
Rahvusringhäälingu nõukogu esimees Agu Uudelepp ütles ERR-i uudisteportaalile, et kui Allikmaa osutub Kulka juhi kohale valituks, siis korraldab nõukogu konkursi uue ERR-i juhatuse esimehe leidmiseks, vahendavad ERR Uudised.
Allikmaa volitused ERR- juhatuse esimehe kohal kehtivad järgmise aasta maini.
Kultuurkapitali juhataja ametikohale laekus 24 avaldust. Kultuurkapitali nõukogu valis nende seast välja viis kandidaati, kes kutsutakse 22. augustil toimuvale vestlusvoorule. Allikmaa on viie väljavalitu seas.
Kultuurkapitali praegune juht Olavi Laido on kinnitanud, et kandideerib teiseks ametiajaks. Uus kultuurkapitali juhataja alustab tööd 1. novembril."
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/erri-juhatuse-esimees-kandideerib-kulka-juhiks?id=75389831
"Eesti Rahvusringhäälingu (ERR) juhatuse esimees Margus Allikmaa teatas reedel ringhäälingunõukogu koosolekul, et kandideerib Eesti Kultuurkapitali juhi kohale.
Rahvusringhäälingu nõukogu esimees Agu Uudelepp ütles ERR-i uudisteportaalile, et kui Allikmaa osutub Kulka juhi kohale valituks, siis korraldab nõukogu konkursi uue ERR-i juhatuse esimehe leidmiseks, vahendavad ERR Uudised.
Allikmaa volitused ERR- juhatuse esimehe kohal kehtivad järgmise aasta maini.
Kultuurkapitali juhataja ametikohale laekus 24 avaldust. Kultuurkapitali nõukogu valis nende seast välja viis kandidaati, kes kutsutakse 22. augustil toimuvale vestlusvoorule. Allikmaa on viie väljavalitu seas.
Kultuurkapitali praegune juht Olavi Laido on kinnitanud, et kandideerib teiseks ametiajaks. Uus kultuurkapitali juhataja alustab tööd 1. novembril."
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/erri-juhatuse-esimees-kandideerib-kulka-juhiks?id=75389831
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/erri-juhatuse-esimees-kandideerib-kulka-juhiks?id=75389831
29 October 2017 03:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
2014;
Eesti Rahvusringhäälingu (ERR) nõukogu otsustas korralisel koosolekul, et Margus Allikmaa jätkab juhatuse esimehena ning uue juhatuse liikmeks saab Ainar Ruussaar, vahendas ERRi uudisteportaal. "Aktuaalse kaamera" andmetel toimus Allikmaa üle salajane hääletus, mille tulemus oli 4:4.
Lahkuva juhatuse liikme Hanno Tombergi asemele esitas Allikmaa kunagise ETV juhi, praeguse BNS-i peatoimetaja Ainar Ruussaare, kelle poolt andis nõukogu kuus ja vastu kaks häält. Ringhäälingunõukogu esimees Agu Uudelepp selgitas, et nõukogus oli arutlusel kaks võimalikku varianti: kutsuda Allikmaa tagasi või minna kaasa plaaniga, et tema teeb ettepaneku uue juhatuse liikme nimetamiseks.
Ruussaare kanda jääb vastutus kogu sisu eest. Tema kanda jääb esialgu uue meediaga seotud sisu ja arendus.
"Uue juhatuse liikme ülesanne oleks ajakirjandusliku sisu sõltumatuse tagamine. Arutelu oli pikk ja põhjalik, aga lõpuks jäi peale seisukoht, et kuna Allikmaa tegi ettepaneku nimetada sisu eest vastutavaks juhatuse liikmeks Ainar Ruussaare, kes on olnud ka ETV peadirektor ja kes on selles valdkonnas vaieldamatult Eesti üks tugevamaid tegijaid üldse, siis nõukogu otsus oli see, et praegust juhatuse esimeest tagasi ei kutsuta, vaid nimetatakse juhatuse liikmeks Ainar Ruussaar," lisas ta.
http://vana.laanlane.ee/article/margus-allikmaa-j%C3%A4i-ametisse-erri-uus-juhatuse-liige-ainar-ruussaar
Eesti Rahvusringhäälingu (ERR) nõukogu otsustas korralisel koosolekul, et Margus Allikmaa jätkab juhatuse esimehena ning uue juhatuse liikmeks saab Ainar Ruussaar, vahendas ERRi uudisteportaal. "Aktuaalse kaamera" andmetel toimus Allikmaa üle salajane hääletus, mille tulemus oli 4:4.
Lahkuva juhatuse liikme Hanno Tombergi asemele esitas Allikmaa kunagise ETV juhi, praeguse BNS-i peatoimetaja Ainar Ruussaare, kelle poolt andis nõukogu kuus ja vastu kaks häält. Ringhäälingunõukogu esimees Agu Uudelepp selgitas, et nõukogus oli arutlusel kaks võimalikku varianti: kutsuda Allikmaa tagasi või minna kaasa plaaniga, et tema teeb ettepaneku uue juhatuse liikme nimetamiseks.
Ruussaare kanda jääb vastutus kogu sisu eest. Tema kanda jääb esialgu uue meediaga seotud sisu ja arendus.
"Uue juhatuse liikme ülesanne oleks ajakirjandusliku sisu sõltumatuse tagamine. Arutelu oli pikk ja põhjalik, aga lõpuks jäi peale seisukoht, et kuna Allikmaa tegi ettepaneku nimetada sisu eest vastutavaks juhatuse liikmeks Ainar Ruussaare, kes on olnud ka ETV peadirektor ja kes on selles valdkonnas vaieldamatult Eesti üks tugevamaid tegijaid üldse, siis nõukogu otsus oli see, et praegust juhatuse esimeest tagasi ei kutsuta, vaid nimetatakse juhatuse liikmeks Ainar Ruussaar," lisas ta.
http://vana.laanlane.ee/article/margus-allikmaa-j%C3%A4i-ametisse-erri-uus-juhatuse-liige-ainar-ruussaar
http://vana.laanlane.ee/article/margus-allikmaa-j%C3%A4i-ametisse-erri-uus-juhatuse-liige-ainar-ruussaar
29 October 2017 03:17
Margus Meigo commented on Loov Eesti's post.
Ikka sisu peale peaks ka mõtlema..
29 October 2017 03:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Harri ei puutu otseselt üldse asjasse, kuid oli asja mainida,
(oleks Sientoloogia, siis oleks muidugi vist veel muret tekitavam.. kuid kogu see kompott kokku, ma usun, et siit ikka midagi keeb ülesse küll, et mis strateegilisi positsioone keegi jahtis ja keda seestpoolt kasutati, et neile asjadele ligi saada ),
Muidu kaebuste osas, siis tsekata seda linki:
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eesti_Rahvusringh%C3%A4%C3%A4ling#Viited
(oleks Sientoloogia, siis oleks muidugi vist veel muret tekitavam.. kuid kogu see kompott kokku, ma usun, et siit ikka midagi keeb ülesse küll, et mis strateegilisi positsioone keegi jahtis ja keda seestpoolt kasutati, et neile asjadele ligi saada ),
Muidu kaebuste osas, siis tsekata seda linki:
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eesti_Rahvusringh%C3%A4%C3%A4ling#Viited
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eesti_Rahvusringh%C3%A4%C3%A4ling#Viited
29 October 2017 03:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja muid igasuguseid veidrusi nähtud: ( Harri Kingo )
" ERR) on avalik-õiguslik juriidiline isik "
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213353257522657
" ERR) on avalik-õiguslik juriidiline isik "
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213353257522657
29 October 2017 03:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// Tagasi teemase nüüd, Estomainen
29 October 2017 02:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Change the picture, UNless You do want to keep look like that,
Will talk to later,
Right now, work, work, work, work, work, work..
// and yea, keep language posts private or under Muse-ck
UNless You think The spells that caused it was from
or help for our National TV can be come from
these lines
// my mistake, it was on topic, Thanks
(still worry about usefulness of the picture tho.. maybe will see in Herbalife party or maybe in many other dimensions )
Will talk to later,
Right now, work, work, work, work, work, work..
// and yea, keep language posts private or under Muse-ck
UNless You think The spells that caused it was from
or help for our National TV can be come from
these lines
// my mistake, it was on topic, Thanks
(still worry about usefulness of the picture tho.. maybe will see in Herbalife party or maybe in many other dimensions )
29 October 2017 02:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The songs I know
that king's wives know not
Nor men that are sons of men."
Imre Tóth i think there is a lot wrong with You,
First, i do not know you
Second You sound like Swed
Third You smell like cannibal from that picture that POPup on my screen to Notify about Your reply, in language You did not care to investigate if i speak
And fourth ,
i looked up this song, sounded like old Norway related, so i thought You might be alright after all,
Specially as Sveinbjörn Beinteinsson ( 1924 – 1993)," was an Icelandic religious leader who was instrumental in helping to gain Icelandic government's recognition of the pre-Christian Germanic neopaganism " ...so unless just name relation there might be some depth on it,
so
https://wiki2.org/en/Heimskringla
www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=Hávamál&item_type=topic
http://www.nordic-life.org/nmh/voluspa.htm
http://www.nordic-life.org/nmh/VolusHeathEngOnGoing.htm
https://www.musicjinni.com/Wsb916ySTMx/Havamal-PART-1.html
https://www.musicjinni.com/O02cmlHcrEV/H%C3%A1vam%C3%A1l-The-Norse-Poem-of-Odin-s-Wisdom.html
https://www.musicjinni.com/u125GrP1kvo/The-Voice-of-Odin-July-21%2C-2015.html
"A prophetess was called a v�lva that gives v�lu in the singular genitive: this is the “v�lu” in v�lusp�. She practised a kind of shamanism which resembles much that of North American Indians, which became so popular since a few years. This kind of Scandinavian shamanism is called sei�r or sei� – often spelled ‘seidr’. In spite of the scarcity of available testimony, we know that a v�lva practised sei� outside, on a kind of wooden platform, surrounded by all her helpers and customers, and she required someone singing a special song. There is also a solitary form of practice, called “�tiseta” (outside sitted) to which V�luspa seems to refer
It seems that seidr was practised primarily by women since it is known that the practice of the seidr ‘to perfection’ makes the men impotent where this word can also be understood as ‘homosexual’.
Thus, what had been in the past a highly respected ability, since it was reserved to women or to effeminate men (or, according to my personal interpretation: reserved to the female side of men - and women!), became gradually scorned, and is often used as an insult in texts and runic inscriptions
Note that we will always speak of the mythic Giants and Dwarves in order to single them out of the tall or short individuals. Likewise our gods will never carry a capital letter in order to differentiate them from God."
--
" Likewise our gods will never carry a capital letter in order to differentiate them from God.
��inn (often written: Odin, or Odhin, or Odhinn) is the main of the Scandinavian gods, the �sir. There was also another kind of gods, the Vanir who might have been more ancient, but they will be reconcile with the �sir, after a war evoked below in stanzas 21-26. Lastly, the Giants are also supra human beings who seem to be irreducible enemies to the �sir. They will cause Ragnar�k as described in stanzas 44 to 58
Old Norse civilization was equipped with a spirituality associated to an ancestors "
-
https://www.pinterest.se/luckythirte13/voluspa-v%C3%B6lusp%C3%A1-prophecy-of-the-v%C3%B6lva-volva-norse-/
--
"I know one thing
which never dies:
the judgment of a dead man's life"
that king's wives know not
Nor men that are sons of men."
Imre Tóth i think there is a lot wrong with You,
First, i do not know you
Second You sound like Swed
Third You smell like cannibal from that picture that POPup on my screen to Notify about Your reply, in language You did not care to investigate if i speak
And fourth ,
i looked up this song, sounded like old Norway related, so i thought You might be alright after all,
Specially as Sveinbjörn Beinteinsson ( 1924 – 1993)," was an Icelandic religious leader who was instrumental in helping to gain Icelandic government's recognition of the pre-Christian Germanic neopaganism " ...so unless just name relation there might be some depth on it,
so
https://wiki2.org/en/Heimskringla
www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=Hávamál&item_type=topic
http://www.nordic-life.org/nmh/voluspa.htm
http://www.nordic-life.org/nmh/VolusHeathEngOnGoing.htm
https://www.musicjinni.com/Wsb916ySTMx/Havamal-PART-1.html
https://www.musicjinni.com/O02cmlHcrEV/H%C3%A1vam%C3%A1l-The-Norse-Poem-of-Odin-s-Wisdom.html
https://www.musicjinni.com/u125GrP1kvo/The-Voice-of-Odin-July-21%2C-2015.html
"A prophetess was called a v�lva that gives v�lu in the singular genitive: this is the “v�lu” in v�lusp�. She practised a kind of shamanism which resembles much that of North American Indians, which became so popular since a few years. This kind of Scandinavian shamanism is called sei�r or sei� – often spelled ‘seidr’. In spite of the scarcity of available testimony, we know that a v�lva practised sei� outside, on a kind of wooden platform, surrounded by all her helpers and customers, and she required someone singing a special song. There is also a solitary form of practice, called “�tiseta” (outside sitted) to which V�luspa seems to refer
It seems that seidr was practised primarily by women since it is known that the practice of the seidr ‘to perfection’ makes the men impotent where this word can also be understood as ‘homosexual’.
Thus, what had been in the past a highly respected ability, since it was reserved to women or to effeminate men (or, according to my personal interpretation: reserved to the female side of men - and women!), became gradually scorned, and is often used as an insult in texts and runic inscriptions
Note that we will always speak of the mythic Giants and Dwarves in order to single them out of the tall or short individuals. Likewise our gods will never carry a capital letter in order to differentiate them from God."
--
" Likewise our gods will never carry a capital letter in order to differentiate them from God.
��inn (often written: Odin, or Odhin, or Odhinn) is the main of the Scandinavian gods, the �sir. There was also another kind of gods, the Vanir who might have been more ancient, but they will be reconcile with the �sir, after a war evoked below in stanzas 21-26. Lastly, the Giants are also supra human beings who seem to be irreducible enemies to the �sir. They will cause Ragnar�k as described in stanzas 44 to 58
Old Norse civilization was equipped with a spirituality associated to an ancestors "
-
https://www.pinterest.se/luckythirte13/voluspa-v%C3%B6lusp%C3%A1-prophecy-of-the-v%C3%B6lva-volva-norse-/
--
"I know one thing
which never dies:
the judgment of a dead man's life"
https://wiki2.org/en/Heimskringla
29 October 2017 02:35
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
Tubli! Jõudu! Loovust!
28 October 2017 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
& On ka positiivseid suundasi:
"Isamaa ja IRL - Isamaa ja Res Publica Liit liit saab nädalavahetusel endale uue juhi. Kas see on sotsiaalkaitseminister Kaia Iva või riigikogu liige Helir-Valdor Seeder, otsustavad küll IRLi liikmed. Aga millised on kahe kandidaadi sarnasused ja erinevused Eesti elu edendamisel ja erakonna tuleviku kujundamisel?
Saatejuht on Mirko Ojakivi. Kuulake neljapäeval kell 14.05 ja kordusena kell 19.05.
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/reporteritund/saated/1eb6b254-f3a1-4cfb-a20b-1b8ff450a036/reporteritund-irli-uus-juht-ja-erakonna-tulevik
"Isamaa ja IRL - Isamaa ja Res Publica Liit liit saab nädalavahetusel endale uue juhi. Kas see on sotsiaalkaitseminister Kaia Iva või riigikogu liige Helir-Valdor Seeder, otsustavad küll IRLi liikmed. Aga millised on kahe kandidaadi sarnasused ja erinevused Eesti elu edendamisel ja erakonna tuleviku kujundamisel?
Saatejuht on Mirko Ojakivi. Kuulake neljapäeval kell 14.05 ja kordusena kell 19.05.
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/reporteritund/saated/1eb6b254-f3a1-4cfb-a20b-1b8ff450a036/reporteritund-irli-uus-juht-ja-erakonna-tulevik
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/reporteritund/saated/1eb6b254-f3a1-4cfb-a20b-1b8ff450a036/reporteritund-irli-uus-juht-ja-erakonna-tulevik
28 October 2017 17:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aga sellegi poolest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulnON1rgDJ0&index=20&list=PLCFEAC8300413BE7E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulnON1rgDJ0&index=20&list=PLCFEAC8300413BE7E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulnON1rgDJ0&index=20&list=PLCFEAC8300413BE7E
28 October 2017 17:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eesti kõige kuulatavama raadiojaama Vikerraadio uueks peatoimetajaks saab Ingrid Peek, kes alustab tööd 7. augustil.
Vikerraadio senise peatoimetaja ja nüüdse ERRi juhatuse liikme Riina Rõõmuse kinnitusel rääkis Ingrid Peegi kasuks tema läbimõeldud visioon.
Vikerraadiol on Peegi sõnul põlvkondi ühendav roll - see on kogu Eesti rahva raadio, mis kõnetab enamikku elanikkonnast. Ta näeb Vikerraadiot ERRi tähtsa nurgakivina, mis aitab inimestel kokku hoida, targemaks saada ja silmaringi laiendada.
Vikerraadio on Peegi sõnul raadio, mis väärtustab minevikku, aitab mõista praegu toimuvat ning suunata ka pilgu tulevikku.
Lisaks läbimõeldud visioonile esitas Peek ülevaate lähiaja plaanidest. Tema kirjeldusest kumas läbi suur austus tänaste tegijate töö suhtes.
“Ingridis on palju positiivset energiat ja oskust inimesi kaasa tõmmata, tal on häid ideid ja värskeid visioone. Tema hooliva käe alla usaldan mulle nii armsa Vikerraadio meeskonna hea meele ja kerge südamega,” kinnitas Riina Rõõmus.
Rahvusringhäälingu juhatuse esimehe Erik Roose sõnul on Ingrid Peek parim valik.
"Kuulasime komisjonis ära paljud kandidaadid ja tõesti - otsustamine polnud lihtne, sest konkurents oli vägev. Kaalusime pikalt heade kandidaatide tugevaid külgi ja vaidlesime kirglikult. Lõpuks sai otsus konsensuslik - antud ajahetkel ja jaama praeguses arengufaasis usume, et just Ingrid suudab kõige kiiremini aidata Vikerraadiol saada veel paremaks, vastata muutuva meedia väljakutsetele ning lisada hädavajalikku sünergiat Rahvusringhäälingu programmide tegemistesse. Temas on kõrvalt-tulija värskus ühendatud saatejuhi kogemusega."
Ingrid Peek on ajakirjanikuna juhtinud mitmeid raadio- ja telesaateid. Viimased 13 aastat on ta töötanud Raadio 2s, kus juhtis lõunaprogramme ja suvehommikuid ning tegi populaarseid saateid “Reisipalavik” ja “Hallo, Kosmos!”.
Vikerraadio peatoimetajana lõpetab Ingrid Peek töö Raadio 2s, “Hallo, Kosmos!” jääb enam kui 300 saatega kuulamiseks arhiivi.
Augustis ametisse asuva peatoimetaja sõnul on Vikerraadiol juhtiva raadiojaamana väga oluline kanda ka missioonitunnetuslikku maailmavaadet ning tähis roll rahva ühtsuse, terviklikkuse, tervise, rõõmsuse, kestlikkuse, mõistlikkuse, teadlikkuse, kultuursuse ja hoolivuse poole suunamisel. “Vikerraadio on juba suurepärane, aga igat asja on võimalik edasi arendada. Võimendada olemasolevaid tugevusi, korrigeerida nõrgemaid kohti, luua uusi tahke tervikule. Plaanis on jõuda rohkem rahva sekka ning kindlasti arendada jaama uue meedia valdkonda, ” ütles Ingrid Peek.
Ingrid Peegil on pikaajaline meedia, kommunikatsiooni, sisuloome, arendustegevuse ja projektijuhtimise kogemus. Ta on õppinud Concordia Rahvusvahelises Ülikoolis meediat, töötanud pikalt Raadio 2s ning tegutsenud vabakutselise ajakirjanikuna.
Vikerraadio uus peatoimetaja valiti avaliku konkursi tulemusena, kokku kandideeris sellele ametikohale 13 inimest. Kandidaadid olid tugevad ja konkurss tasavägine, lõppotsus ühtne.
Vikerraadiost
Juba üle kümne aasta on Vikerraadio Eesti kuulatuim raadiojaam. Välismaal elavatele eestlastele on Vikerraadio oluline ühendus kodumaaga.
Vikerraadiol on ligi 300 000 kuulajat nädalas, nendest suur osa kuulab Vikerraadiot iga päev. Vikerraadio on eelistatud kõrgharidusega kuulajate hulgas. Üha enam kuulatakse Vikerraadio saateid veebilehe või mobiilirakenduse kaudu.
2017. aasta jaanuaris läbi viidud ERRi rahulolu-uuringust selgus, et 86 protsenti Vikerraadiot hinnanutest on sellega rahul või väga rahul.
Vikerraadio alustas 3. aprillil 1967 Eesti Raadio II programmina ning tähistas tänavu oma 50. sünnipäeva.
Foto: Ingrid Peek - foto Triin Maasik, Sensa
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/vikerraadio_uudised/f94d976d-10f2-4fcc-a84f-456a120915a0/vikerraadio-peatoimetaja-ametisse-asub-ingrid-peek
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/kultuur/vikerraadio-uus-juht-suuremat-lammutustood-ei-ole-plaanis?id=78611406
Vikerraadio senise peatoimetaja ja nüüdse ERRi juhatuse liikme Riina Rõõmuse kinnitusel rääkis Ingrid Peegi kasuks tema läbimõeldud visioon.
Vikerraadiol on Peegi sõnul põlvkondi ühendav roll - see on kogu Eesti rahva raadio, mis kõnetab enamikku elanikkonnast. Ta näeb Vikerraadiot ERRi tähtsa nurgakivina, mis aitab inimestel kokku hoida, targemaks saada ja silmaringi laiendada.
Vikerraadio on Peegi sõnul raadio, mis väärtustab minevikku, aitab mõista praegu toimuvat ning suunata ka pilgu tulevikku.
Lisaks läbimõeldud visioonile esitas Peek ülevaate lähiaja plaanidest. Tema kirjeldusest kumas läbi suur austus tänaste tegijate töö suhtes.
“Ingridis on palju positiivset energiat ja oskust inimesi kaasa tõmmata, tal on häid ideid ja värskeid visioone. Tema hooliva käe alla usaldan mulle nii armsa Vikerraadio meeskonna hea meele ja kerge südamega,” kinnitas Riina Rõõmus.
Rahvusringhäälingu juhatuse esimehe Erik Roose sõnul on Ingrid Peek parim valik.
"Kuulasime komisjonis ära paljud kandidaadid ja tõesti - otsustamine polnud lihtne, sest konkurents oli vägev. Kaalusime pikalt heade kandidaatide tugevaid külgi ja vaidlesime kirglikult. Lõpuks sai otsus konsensuslik - antud ajahetkel ja jaama praeguses arengufaasis usume, et just Ingrid suudab kõige kiiremini aidata Vikerraadiol saada veel paremaks, vastata muutuva meedia väljakutsetele ning lisada hädavajalikku sünergiat Rahvusringhäälingu programmide tegemistesse. Temas on kõrvalt-tulija värskus ühendatud saatejuhi kogemusega."
Ingrid Peek on ajakirjanikuna juhtinud mitmeid raadio- ja telesaateid. Viimased 13 aastat on ta töötanud Raadio 2s, kus juhtis lõunaprogramme ja suvehommikuid ning tegi populaarseid saateid “Reisipalavik” ja “Hallo, Kosmos!”.
Vikerraadio peatoimetajana lõpetab Ingrid Peek töö Raadio 2s, “Hallo, Kosmos!” jääb enam kui 300 saatega kuulamiseks arhiivi.
Augustis ametisse asuva peatoimetaja sõnul on Vikerraadiol juhtiva raadiojaamana väga oluline kanda ka missioonitunnetuslikku maailmavaadet ning tähis roll rahva ühtsuse, terviklikkuse, tervise, rõõmsuse, kestlikkuse, mõistlikkuse, teadlikkuse, kultuursuse ja hoolivuse poole suunamisel. “Vikerraadio on juba suurepärane, aga igat asja on võimalik edasi arendada. Võimendada olemasolevaid tugevusi, korrigeerida nõrgemaid kohti, luua uusi tahke tervikule. Plaanis on jõuda rohkem rahva sekka ning kindlasti arendada jaama uue meedia valdkonda, ” ütles Ingrid Peek.
Ingrid Peegil on pikaajaline meedia, kommunikatsiooni, sisuloome, arendustegevuse ja projektijuhtimise kogemus. Ta on õppinud Concordia Rahvusvahelises Ülikoolis meediat, töötanud pikalt Raadio 2s ning tegutsenud vabakutselise ajakirjanikuna.
Vikerraadio uus peatoimetaja valiti avaliku konkursi tulemusena, kokku kandideeris sellele ametikohale 13 inimest. Kandidaadid olid tugevad ja konkurss tasavägine, lõppotsus ühtne.
Vikerraadiost
Juba üle kümne aasta on Vikerraadio Eesti kuulatuim raadiojaam. Välismaal elavatele eestlastele on Vikerraadio oluline ühendus kodumaaga.
Vikerraadiol on ligi 300 000 kuulajat nädalas, nendest suur osa kuulab Vikerraadiot iga päev. Vikerraadio on eelistatud kõrgharidusega kuulajate hulgas. Üha enam kuulatakse Vikerraadio saateid veebilehe või mobiilirakenduse kaudu.
2017. aasta jaanuaris läbi viidud ERRi rahulolu-uuringust selgus, et 86 protsenti Vikerraadiot hinnanutest on sellega rahul või väga rahul.
Vikerraadio alustas 3. aprillil 1967 Eesti Raadio II programmina ning tähistas tänavu oma 50. sünnipäeva.
Foto: Ingrid Peek - foto Triin Maasik, Sensa
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/vikerraadio_uudised/f94d976d-10f2-4fcc-a84f-456a120915a0/vikerraadio-peatoimetaja-ametisse-asub-ingrid-peek
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/kultuur/vikerraadio-uus-juht-suuremat-lammutustood-ei-ole-plaanis?id=78611406
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/vikerraadio_uudised/f94d976d-10f2-4fcc-a84f-456a120915a0/vikerraadio-peatoimetaja-ametisse-asub-ingrid-peek
28 October 2017 16:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
@tõnis möldre
15.03.2017 21:03
Olgu tervitatud uus ERR tegevjuht Erik Roose!Kõik kolm lõppkandidaati olid meeldivad inimesed ja eilse foorumi põhjal oli lihtinimesel üpris raske valikut teha, sest jutt oli keeruline-erialane. Kunagi alles hilisaastatel oli Postimees siiski veel kommupärandina kvaliteedis:kuidas saksad soovivad! Igatahes saksad olid veel ansiplased (kompartei nomenklatuura) ja Tartu ülikooli teadlane Medijainen võttis Eesti Vabariigi sünnipäeva eelõhtul alandada lehes Vabadussõda ja iseseisvumist üldse, sest see olevat õnnestunud luua ainult ühe I ilmasõja lõdva lahingu kaotusena.
15.03.2017 21:03
Olgu tervitatud uus ERR tegevjuht Erik Roose!Kõik kolm lõppkandidaati olid meeldivad inimesed ja eilse foorumi põhjal oli lihtinimesel üpris raske valikut teha, sest jutt oli keeruline-erialane. Kunagi alles hilisaastatel oli Postimees siiski veel kommupärandina kvaliteedis:kuidas saksad soovivad! Igatahes saksad olid veel ansiplased (kompartei nomenklatuura) ja Tartu ülikooli teadlane Medijainen võttis Eesti Vabariigi sünnipäeva eelõhtul alandada lehes Vabadussõda ja iseseisvumist üldse, sest see olevat õnnestunud luua ainult ühe I ilmasõja lõdva lahingu kaotusena.
28 October 2017 15:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Fookus:
"Kolmapäeva õhtul kogunenud Eesti rahvusringhäälingu (ERR) nõukogu valis meediaorganisatsiooni uueks juhiks Erik Roose.
Roose kõrval kandideerisid lõppvoorus ERR-i esimehe kohale veel Mart Luik ja Allar Tankler.
Rahvusringhäälingu nõukogu esimees Agu Uudelepp ütles, et Roose puhul sai otsustavaks tema põhjalikult läbitöötatud visioon, pikk kogemus meediaorganisatsiooni juhtimisel ja suutlikkus luua inimestele häid töötingimusi koos hea õhkkonnaga.
"Temaga varem koos töötanud inimesed kinnitavad, et tegemist on suurepärase meeskonnamängijaga. See on omadus, mida ERR-i juht hädasti vajab," märkis Uudelepp.
Uus esimees peaks senise juhi Margus Allikmaa asemel astuma ametisse hiljemalt 1. juunil 2017. Tema ametiaeg kestab aastani 2022.
Uudlepp lisas, et nõukogu soovib uuele juhatuse esimehele edu ameti ülevõtmiseks valmistumisel, juhatuse koosseisu väljapakkumisel ja organisatsioonile omaseks saamisel.
"Kogu see konkurss ja vahel lausa suureks paisunud avalik tähelepanu on andnud selguse, et uus juht tuleb meeskonda väärtustades looma ja arendama, mitte jõuga ümmargust pulka kandilisse auku toppima. Ja see ongi lõppude lõpuks kõige tähtsam – et ERR oleks Eesti usaldusväärseim ja professionaalseim meediaorganisatsioon, kus inimestel silm särab ja on tore töötada," ütles nõukogu esimees.
Erik Roose on endine Postimehe juhatuse esimees.
Erik Roose "Foorumi" stuudios. Autor: Rene Suurkaev / ERR
Roose kogus esimeses voorus vähim hääli
Esimeses voorus kogus Tankler neli, Luik kolm ja Roose kaks häält.
Seejärel valiti Luige ja Tankleri vahel. Tankler kogus kuus ja Luik kolm poolthäält.
"Kaks korda oli hääletustulemus 6:3, millega oli asi umbes," rääkis nõukogu liige Martin Helme ERR-ile.
Reglement nõudis aga, et valituks osutub kandidaat, kes kogub 2/3 häältest ehk vähemalt seitse häält.
Nõukogu liige Krista Aru selgitas, et seejärel tegi nõukogu esimees Agu Uudelepp ettepaneku reglementi muuta, õigemini täpsustada, et korraldada saaks veel ühe vooru. Selleks pidi kandidaadina end nõukogu hääletustelt taandanud Mart Luik nõusoleku andma, mida ka ta telefoni teel tegi.
Seejärel hakati kandidaate läbi hääletama ükshaaval. Iga kandidaadi puhul ütles nõukogu liige, kas ta on poolt või vastu.
Sel moel hääletades kogus Roose kaheksa poolthäält ja ühe vastuhääle, Tanklerit toetas viis ja vastu oli neli nõukogu liiget. Luige poolt oli neli ja vastu viis nõukogu liiget.
Nii sõeludes jõuti lõpuks selleni, et suurima toetuse kogus Erik Roose. Krista Aru sõnul kogus Roose rohkemgi kui vajalikud seitse poolthäält.
http://www.err.ee/584295/err-i-uus-juht-on-erik-roose
"Kolmapäeva õhtul kogunenud Eesti rahvusringhäälingu (ERR) nõukogu valis meediaorganisatsiooni uueks juhiks Erik Roose.
Roose kõrval kandideerisid lõppvoorus ERR-i esimehe kohale veel Mart Luik ja Allar Tankler.
Rahvusringhäälingu nõukogu esimees Agu Uudelepp ütles, et Roose puhul sai otsustavaks tema põhjalikult läbitöötatud visioon, pikk kogemus meediaorganisatsiooni juhtimisel ja suutlikkus luua inimestele häid töötingimusi koos hea õhkkonnaga.
"Temaga varem koos töötanud inimesed kinnitavad, et tegemist on suurepärase meeskonnamängijaga. See on omadus, mida ERR-i juht hädasti vajab," märkis Uudelepp.
Uus esimees peaks senise juhi Margus Allikmaa asemel astuma ametisse hiljemalt 1. juunil 2017. Tema ametiaeg kestab aastani 2022.
Uudlepp lisas, et nõukogu soovib uuele juhatuse esimehele edu ameti ülevõtmiseks valmistumisel, juhatuse koosseisu väljapakkumisel ja organisatsioonile omaseks saamisel.
"Kogu see konkurss ja vahel lausa suureks paisunud avalik tähelepanu on andnud selguse, et uus juht tuleb meeskonda väärtustades looma ja arendama, mitte jõuga ümmargust pulka kandilisse auku toppima. Ja see ongi lõppude lõpuks kõige tähtsam – et ERR oleks Eesti usaldusväärseim ja professionaalseim meediaorganisatsioon, kus inimestel silm särab ja on tore töötada," ütles nõukogu esimees.
Erik Roose on endine Postimehe juhatuse esimees.
Erik Roose "Foorumi" stuudios. Autor: Rene Suurkaev / ERR
Roose kogus esimeses voorus vähim hääli
Esimeses voorus kogus Tankler neli, Luik kolm ja Roose kaks häält.
Seejärel valiti Luige ja Tankleri vahel. Tankler kogus kuus ja Luik kolm poolthäält.
"Kaks korda oli hääletustulemus 6:3, millega oli asi umbes," rääkis nõukogu liige Martin Helme ERR-ile.
Reglement nõudis aga, et valituks osutub kandidaat, kes kogub 2/3 häältest ehk vähemalt seitse häält.
Nõukogu liige Krista Aru selgitas, et seejärel tegi nõukogu esimees Agu Uudelepp ettepaneku reglementi muuta, õigemini täpsustada, et korraldada saaks veel ühe vooru. Selleks pidi kandidaadina end nõukogu hääletustelt taandanud Mart Luik nõusoleku andma, mida ka ta telefoni teel tegi.
Seejärel hakati kandidaate läbi hääletama ükshaaval. Iga kandidaadi puhul ütles nõukogu liige, kas ta on poolt või vastu.
Sel moel hääletades kogus Roose kaheksa poolthäält ja ühe vastuhääle, Tanklerit toetas viis ja vastu oli neli nõukogu liiget. Luige poolt oli neli ja vastu viis nõukogu liiget.
Nii sõeludes jõuti lõpuks selleni, et suurima toetuse kogus Erik Roose. Krista Aru sõnul kogus Roose rohkemgi kui vajalikud seitse poolthäält.
http://www.err.ee/584295/err-i-uus-juht-on-erik-roose
http://www.err.ee/584295/err-i-uus-juht-on-erik-roose
28 October 2017 15:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Uudis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbzpCehUt_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbzpCehUt_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbzpCehUt_c
28 October 2017 06:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tehtud, polnutki miskit trikki vaja
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbzpCehUt_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbzpCehUt_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbzpCehUt_c
28 October 2017 06:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbzpCehUt_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbzpCehUt_c
28 October 2017 06:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehk siis https://snotty.err.ee/etvsaated/H/2017-000010-1019_AKTUAALNE_KAAMERA_ETV1.mp4
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et siis
https://ssl-errstream.spring-tns.net/j0=,,,pl=own%20player+plv=version1+sx=1920+sy=1200;+,stream=etv/paevakajasaated/aktuaalne_kaamera/2017-000010-1019_AKTUAALNE_KAAMERA_ETV1.mp4
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vs http://jv.err.ee/arhiiv/2003-001698-0004_0002_D10_BURATINO-TEGUTSEB-JALLE_ELEKTER.mp4
toimib
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TNS Emori poolt kasutatavast mõõtmissüsteemist (Spring – spring-tns.net)
http://www.emor.ee/kuraditosin-tosiasja-mobiilsete-seadmete-mootmisest/
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et siis
https://ssl-errstream.spring-tns.net/j0=,,,pl=own%20player+plv=version1+sx=1920+sy=1200;+,stream=etv/paevakajasaated/aktuaalne_kaamera/2017-000010-1019_AKTUAALNE_KAAMERA_ETV1.mp4
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vs http://jv.err.ee/arhiiv/2003-001698-0004_0002_D10_BURATINO-TEGUTSEB-JALLE_ELEKTER.mp4
toimib
---
TNS Emori poolt kasutatavast mõõtmissüsteemist (Spring – spring-tns.net)
http://www.emor.ee/kuraditosin-tosiasja-mobiilsete-seadmete-mootmisest/
https://snotty.err.ee/etvsaated/H/2017-000010-1019_AKTUAALNE_KAAMERA_ETV1.mp4
28 October 2017 06:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
veel komme
https://etv.err.ee/v/paevakajasaated/aktuaalne_kaamera/saated2100/e84bce58-e027-4403-b01e-036d5cbbcc4f/aktuaalne-kaamera-ilm
https://etv.err.ee/v/paevakajasaated/aktuaalne_kaamera/saated2100/e84bce58-e027-4403-b01e-036d5cbbcc4f/aktuaalne-kaamera-ilm
https://etv.err.ee/v/paevakajasaated/aktuaalne_kaamera/saated2100/e84bce58-e027-4403-b01e-036d5cbbcc4f/aktuaalne-kaamera-ilm
28 October 2017 05:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Saladuseks ei jää tänapäeval enam midagi, litsud brauseril klahve Ctrl+Shift+I (viisakamatel brauseritel toimib ka F12 klahv) ja Network lipikult vaatad, mis toimub."
http://www.elfafoorum.ee/threads/70536-ERR-arhiivi-striimi-salvestamine-arvutisse/page2
http://www.elfafoorum.ee/threads/70536-ERR-arhiivi-striimi-salvestamine-arvutisse/page2
http://www.elfafoorum.ee/threads/70536-ERR-arhiivi-striimi-salvestamine-arvutisse/page2
28 October 2017 05:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
28 October 2017 04:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuidas käib siis tavainimese AK salvestamine tänapäeval, videona arvutisse
https://etv.err.ee/v/de781f29-48bb-4b0d-bb99-4d526d415ff7
https://snotty.err.ee/etvsaated/H/2017-000010-1019_AKTUAALNE_KAAMERA_ETV1.mp4
https://etv.err.ee/v/de781f29-48bb-4b0d-bb99-4d526d415ff7
https://snotty.err.ee/etvsaated/H/2017-000010-1019_AKTUAALNE_KAAMERA_ETV1.mp4
https://etv.err.ee/v/de781f29-48bb-4b0d-bb99-4d526d415ff7
28 October 2017 04:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ⓐnarcists+
"Catalonia has declared its independence from Spain the same day the country's government moved to take over control of the region. Catalonia’s vote on Friday came after weeks of non-action following an October 1 independence referendum. “Cheers erupted inside and outside the ornate Catalan parliament building after the vote result was read — a nearly unbroken series of “Si, si, si,” the Los Angeles Times reported. “The final tally was 70 yes, 10 opposed and two blank ballots." Soon after, Spanish parliament members voted to allow Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy’s government to directly preside over Catalonia. Its first measures could include supervising Catalan police or firing the government in Barcelona. “I call on all Spaniards to remain calm,” Rajoy said on Twitter. “The rule of law will restore legality to Catalonia.” - LA TIMES "
"Catalonia has declared its independence from Spain the same day the country's government moved to take over control of the region. Catalonia’s vote on Friday came after weeks of non-action following an October 1 independence referendum. “Cheers erupted inside and outside the ornate Catalan parliament building after the vote result was read — a nearly unbroken series of “Si, si, si,” the Los Angeles Times reported. “The final tally was 70 yes, 10 opposed and two blank ballots." Soon after, Spanish parliament members voted to allow Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy’s government to directly preside over Catalonia. Its first measures could include supervising Catalan police or firing the government in Barcelona. “I call on all Spaniards to remain calm,” Rajoy said on Twitter. “The rule of law will restore legality to Catalonia.” - LA TIMES "
28 October 2017 04:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja seda arutati juba 5a tagasi...
kuid muudame suunda
kuid muudame suunda
28 October 2017 03:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuni
"BenQ oli ka selline mudel, peast ei mäleta, kuid oli soodsalt meie kaubandusvõrgus. A niipalju oli sellel mudelil salvestamisel pettust sees, et vaadata sai vaid omaenda telekas, mujal mitte.
Kui soovid tehnoloogiliselt paremat telekat siis vaata IPS tehnoloogiaga. On veel ka teisi, kuid hiljutisel külaskäigul jäi vaid IPS silma. Vanema põlvkonna LCD on TN tehnoloogias, see on vaid 6 bitise värviga (kõik muu mula rohkematest värvidest on ostja petmine, maatriks on 6 bit resolutsiooniga). Samas on IPS pikema reageerimisajaga... Kui aga paneelil on IPS tehnoloogia, kuid TN tehtud 6 bit elektroonika siis pole sellest IPS-ist mingit kasu. Nii et pead foorumitest testid üle vaatama."
"BenQ oli ka selline mudel, peast ei mäleta, kuid oli soodsalt meie kaubandusvõrgus. A niipalju oli sellel mudelil salvestamisel pettust sees, et vaadata sai vaid omaenda telekas, mujal mitte.
Kui soovid tehnoloogiliselt paremat telekat siis vaata IPS tehnoloogiaga. On veel ka teisi, kuid hiljutisel külaskäigul jäi vaid IPS silma. Vanema põlvkonna LCD on TN tehnoloogias, see on vaid 6 bitise värviga (kõik muu mula rohkematest värvidest on ostja petmine, maatriks on 6 bit resolutsiooniga). Samas on IPS pikema reageerimisajaga... Kui aga paneelil on IPS tehnoloogia, kuid TN tehtud 6 bit elektroonika siis pole sellest IPS-ist mingit kasu. Nii et pead foorumitest testid üle vaatama."
28 October 2017 03:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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"Mõningad tähelepanekud. Ei ole see elu nii roosiline. Soovitan sama asja küsida ka digi-tv foorumist.
1.Salvestavate seadmetega kipub sedasi olema, et mida tuntuma nimega seade on, seda tõenäolisem on , et seda salvestist ei saa mujal (k.a.) teises samasuguses seadmes kasutada.
2.Telekad salvestavad üldjuhul vaid seda, mida antakse digitaalselt antennisisendisse (striimi).
3.Teleka tarkvara võib bugine olla. Tean juhust, kus tänu häirele sisendsignaalis (pilt ruudutab/hakib) samal ajal salvestis rikneb.
4. Ise omanud digiboksi , mis salvestab (mvision 200), mis salvestas küll striimi, aga korjas sealt paljud vajalikud asjad ära. Ja arvutis näitas pilti ainult media player classic. Kõiksugu konverterid ja ka VLC olid hädas. Õnneks õppisin mingite (enam ei mäleta) videoparandussoftidega asja parandama, aga lihtsamaks osutus arvutiga salvestada. Praegu teine boks ja muret pole.
5. Tuleb ka seda uurida, kas kinniseid kanaleid salvestatakse kinniselt või lahtikodeerituna. Esimesel variandil pole salvestisega midagi teha ja ka salvestised boksis muutuvad kasutuks kui lepingut muudad/lõpetad (see pidavat tähemehe pvr bokside "feature" olema )
Lõppkokkuvõttes soovitus , loomulikult, kui raha on. Hangi telekas, mis näitab ilusat pilti ja selle juurde vastavate kellade/viledega (ja selline, kus fännid ise softi treivad) boks.
Igal juhul soovitan vältida teenusepakkujaga "tasuta" kaasatulevat kraami. Tuttavad pidevalt hädas igasugu kanali ja softiuuendustega ja teha saad vaid seda, mis on ette nähtud. "
"Mõningad tähelepanekud. Ei ole see elu nii roosiline. Soovitan sama asja küsida ka digi-tv foorumist.
1.Salvestavate seadmetega kipub sedasi olema, et mida tuntuma nimega seade on, seda tõenäolisem on , et seda salvestist ei saa mujal (k.a.) teises samasuguses seadmes kasutada.
2.Telekad salvestavad üldjuhul vaid seda, mida antakse digitaalselt antennisisendisse (striimi).
3.Teleka tarkvara võib bugine olla. Tean juhust, kus tänu häirele sisendsignaalis (pilt ruudutab/hakib) samal ajal salvestis rikneb.
4. Ise omanud digiboksi , mis salvestab (mvision 200), mis salvestas küll striimi, aga korjas sealt paljud vajalikud asjad ära. Ja arvutis näitas pilti ainult media player classic. Kõiksugu konverterid ja ka VLC olid hädas. Õnneks õppisin mingite (enam ei mäleta) videoparandussoftidega asja parandama, aga lihtsamaks osutus arvutiga salvestada. Praegu teine boks ja muret pole.
5. Tuleb ka seda uurida, kas kinniseid kanaleid salvestatakse kinniselt või lahtikodeerituna. Esimesel variandil pole salvestisega midagi teha ja ka salvestised boksis muutuvad kasutuks kui lepingut muudad/lõpetad (see pidavat tähemehe pvr bokside "feature" olema )
Lõppkokkuvõttes soovitus , loomulikult, kui raha on. Hangi telekas, mis näitab ilusat pilti ja selle juurde vastavate kellade/viledega (ja selline, kus fännid ise softi treivad) boks.
Igal juhul soovitan vältida teenusepakkujaga "tasuta" kaasatulevat kraami. Tuttavad pidevalt hädas igasugu kanali ja softiuuendustega ja teha saad vaid seda, mis on ette nähtud. "
28 October 2017 03:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
27 October 2017 01:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Mattias Hiiumaal aga eks see postimees ongi maas praegu27 October 2017 01:34
Margus Meigo commented on Mattias Hiiumaal's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kustkohast seda uuesti vaadata saab, mul ei lae millegi pärast, kuskile Youtbe ülesse laadida, muu arhiiv?27 October 2017 01:26
Margus Meigo replied to Sass Wodduck's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
see lipsumees teeb seda, mis talle öeldakse, sellepoolt kes tal lipsu kanda käsib27 October 2017 01:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
ja fakt, et Vene kõrgel kohal amenik avalikult ütlenud, et tuleb aeg varsti, kus nad ISE valivad, USAs ENDALE sobiva presidendi27 October 2017 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on Urmas Espenberg's post.
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Clintonid mõistlikud,
Tark otsus see uraani jama Vanemaale anda ja samal ajal veel raha sisse kaseerida maafialt, ning siis teha seadusi ja suundasi, et Uraani tööstus üldsegi... ju tulevikus pigem hääbuks... ja lausa paha vaim neile kaela tuleb, kes seda jama kaevandavad,
Kuna Hillaril tulnukatega sift sees siis need oelvat ka tuumaaasjade vastased, ju siis neilt selle hea skeemi sai. Advokaadi koolist mõlemad abikaasaga, nupp nokib.-
Muidugi siin arvata, et see on "venemaaga sahkerdamine" võrreldes selle venemaa USA ülevõtuga mida Trump avalikult tegi ja teeb on naeruväärsest veel samm idiootsuse poole.
Piisab, et keegi viitsiks üles vaadata kelle Trump riigisekretäriks pani... jms.27 October 2017 01:21
Margus Meigo commented on Urmas Espenberg's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
ilvese kallal ilkuda on sama igav kui pehme munniga pihkutaguda27 October 2017 01:13
Margus Meigo replied to Sander Sepp's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kanaada nii diskremineerib, see laseb välismaalastest naisstripparitel lausa endast pildi saata, et kas on piisavalt kenad, et neid nende tööturule lubada
http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1100587http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1100587
27 October 2017 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to Edmond Penu's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Senikaua kui see debiilsus jätkub, et valimissedelile kirjutatakse inimese nime asemel ainult number, ei saa meil eriti arengulootust olla.
Eriti veel ku ivalimised privaatsed on ehk ei ole isegi näha kes kelle poolt hääletas me Maal27 October 2017 01:00
Margus Meigo commented on Edmond Penu's post.
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Nagu kohalik argetiinlanna ütles:
"“Naisena ei taha ma, et mind arvataks nende tüdrukute hulka, kui neid võib üldse nii nimetada,” jätkas ta. “Naine kannab kleiti ning lõhnab meeldivalt, mitte ei haise alkoholi, tubaka ja narkootikumide järgi. Samuti ei ole naised mõrvarid, kes soovivad hävitada inimelu.”"27 October 2017 00:56
Margus Meigo commented on Edmond Penu's post.
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Ju See minigi karistus on, sest ei allutud mõne punase liberaali perverdsetele nõudmistele27 October 2017 00:50
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Liivak's comment.
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ei nu meil ilma sõdade ja hädadeta, reaalse vetsu järjekorra või suisa iseka luulu pärast tehakse rohkem lärmi ja haiget enda südamele ja teiste kõrvadele kui sõjaeelsed vanemad oma raskematel aegadel27 October 2017 00:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://youtu.be/RNUa-uMUH1w
https://youtu.be/RNUa-uMUH1w
26 October 2017 13:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja vaadake, et siis möödunud aegu, häid meenutate, kui kohtute jälle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH7CRo6kp0o
Need päkapikud, mis seenemetsas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH7CRo6kp0o
Need päkapikud, mis seenemetsas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH7CRo6kp0o
26 October 2017 13:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ole ilus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bkM7o_5lfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bkM7o_5lfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bkM7o_5lfw
26 October 2017 12:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Head Võlumaad!
https://youtu.be/UKCxB2ujy1E
https://youtu.be/UKCxB2ujy1E
https://youtu.be/UKCxB2ujy1E
26 October 2017 12:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
...
26 October 2017 12:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
@ Same time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2W-fROWeWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2W-fROWeWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2W-fROWeWQ
26 October 2017 12:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(emajärgsus ka, elementaarne me kultuuriruumist rääkides,
ja kuidas seda kõike demokraatia täiendada saab
demokratia, mis teeb arusaamad ühedimensiooniliseks tarkusevabaks hingetuks matemaatiliseks arvutuseks,
ja arvutab nende häält kes Teavad Head võrdselt nendega kes teadmatustest ei tee isegi midagi sellist, mida Jumal juhatab
...Vaid on lausa vahest, juba ette määratletult vastu MILLELE IGANES, nagu Venemaa presidendi meelelahutus kandideeria,
( tegemaks registrit nendest, kes piisavalt julged, et Meelestatust näidata ja piisavalt hooletud, et end kirja sellisena panna, mine tea mis projektiks neid pärast kasutatakse, Ka Venelased on muutunud praktilisemaks, kindlasti palju ideid milleks plaanitakse kasutada Neid keda kaotada pole kahju
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213288135134638&set=pcb.10213288138014710&type=3&theater
ja kuidas seda kõike demokraatia täiendada saab
demokratia, mis teeb arusaamad ühedimensiooniliseks tarkusevabaks hingetuks matemaatiliseks arvutuseks,
ja arvutab nende häält kes Teavad Head võrdselt nendega kes teadmatustest ei tee isegi midagi sellist, mida Jumal juhatab
...Vaid on lausa vahest, juba ette määratletult vastu MILLELE IGANES, nagu Venemaa presidendi meelelahutus kandideeria,
( tegemaks registrit nendest, kes piisavalt julged, et Meelestatust näidata ja piisavalt hooletud, et end kirja sellisena panna, mine tea mis projektiks neid pärast kasutatakse, Ka Venelased on muutunud praktilisemaks, kindlasti palju ideid milleks plaanitakse kasutada Neid keda kaotada pole kahju
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213288135134638&set=pcb.10213288138014710&type=3&theater
22 October 2017 06:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Karl,
Eestlus juba sisaldabki teadaolevas maises aegruumis kõige praktilisemalt pühamaid elusolemise vorme inimkehas,
(milles on Austus, Ausus, Tarkus, Konservatiivsus, Kultuuritaluvus, Koostöö, Loovus, Naturaalsus, Puhtus, Tagasihoidlikus, Tervislikus, Julgus, Jõud, Sõprus, Vendlus ja muidugi lisaks muule heale edasiviiv Usk kõige parema ees ).
Mis on sõna Konservatiivsus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQs1vI4pLHE&list=PLsXelNZnKcxndEjc58_GUi9ftCxcreX5c
Mis on sõna Usk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pmq8cbyzBQ
Mis on Demokraatia praegune tulemus Eestis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-cgqOj6BGE
Kui soovid teada, mis on ka (ideaal)demokraatia, siis tee paar Ülo demokraatia kooli läbi,
Eestlus juba sisaldabki teadaolevas maises aegruumis kõige praktilisemalt pühamaid elusolemise vorme inimkehas,
(milles on Austus, Ausus, Tarkus, Konservatiivsus, Kultuuritaluvus, Koostöö, Loovus, Naturaalsus, Puhtus, Tagasihoidlikus, Tervislikus, Julgus, Jõud, Sõprus, Vendlus ja muidugi lisaks muule heale edasiviiv Usk kõige parema ees ).
Mis on sõna Konservatiivsus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQs1vI4pLHE&list=PLsXelNZnKcxndEjc58_GUi9ftCxcreX5c
Mis on sõna Usk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pmq8cbyzBQ
Mis on Demokraatia praegune tulemus Eestis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-cgqOj6BGE
Kui soovid teada, mis on ka (ideaal)demokraatia, siis tee paar Ülo demokraatia kooli läbi,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQs1vI4pLHE&list=PLsXelNZnKcxndEjc58_GUi9ftCxcreX5c
22 October 2017 06:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kari Käsper: "Executive director at EESTI Inimõiguste Keskus/ Estonian Human Rights Centre " ??
Mis alusel saab olla võimalik Su ametikoht
Mis alusel saab olla võimalik Su ametikoht
22 October 2017 06:08
Margus Meigo commented on Vallo Meigo's post.
Kari Käsper Mis Sul selles osas öelda on?
Kui meil poleks demokraatia ikke all vangistatud kodumaa, siis sellise lause eest nagu : "Demokraatia on olulisem kui keele, rahvuse, kultuuri säilitamine" tuleks maalt välja saata või ravile suunata kus selgitatakse miks taoline lause on vale, sisult arulage ja äärmiselt solvav kõikide põliselanike suunal.
Kui meil poleks demokraatia ikke all vangistatud kodumaa, siis sellise lause eest nagu : "Demokraatia on olulisem kui keele, rahvuse, kultuuri säilitamine" tuleks maalt välja saata või ravile suunata kus selgitatakse miks taoline lause on vale, sisult arulage ja äärmiselt solvav kõikide põliselanike suunal.
22 October 2017 06:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Remote relate
https://www.facebook.com/groups/LiveLIGOVirgoDiscussion/permalink/892359227581211/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/LiveLIGOVirgoDiscussion/permalink/892359227581211/
22 October 2017 05:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
News, perhaps more important to report, more times then Sport News :
17.-19. oktoobrini toimus Tartu ülikooli tehnoloogiainstituudis rahvusvaheline kohtumine “Mini MeVArc” – minikonverents kõrge elektrivälja juures toimuvad läbilöökide kohta, mida on uuritud juba 10 aastat.
Kohtumise eesmärgiks on arutada viimaseid arenguid vaakumläbilöökide teemal, mis on kriitilise tähtsusega uue planeeritud kompaktse lineaarkiirendi CLIC ehituses. Samuti arutatakse arenguid simulatsioonide ja eksperimentide viimaseid tulemusi.
Kohtumisest võtavad osa lisaks korraldajatele Tartu ülikooli tehnoloogiainstituudist tippteadlased Helsingi, Jeruusalemma, Uppsala ja Oxfordi Ülikoolidest ning CERN-ist. CERN ehk Euroopa tuumauuringute keskus haldab maailma suurimat osakeste füüsika laborit, mille eesmärgiks on universumi fundamentaalse struktuuri uurimine.
Alates 2013. aastast koordineerib Eesti ja CERN-i koostööd CLIC-i arenduses Tartu ülikooli arvutusliku materjaliteaduse vanemteadur Vahur Zadin. Vanemteaduri sõnul on tegu väga olulise üritusega mis aitab süvendada nii Tartu ülikooli kui CERN-i vahelist koostööd kui ka panustada uudsete osakeste kiirendite välja töötamisse millede kasutusvaldkonnad pole mitte ainult fundamentaalfüüsikas vaid näiteks ka meditsiinis ning vähiravis.
Kohtumise käigus tutvustatakse tippteadlastele samuti tehnoloogiainstituuti ja Physicumi ning samuti viiakse kurssi Eesti ajalooga Eesti Rahva Muuseumi külastuse käigus.
Lisainfo: Vahur Zadin, TÜ arvutusliku materjaliteaduse vanemteadur
https://reaalteadused.ut.ee/et/uudised/tartu-ulikoolis-toimumas-rahvusvaheline-cern-i-kohtumine
17.-19. oktoobrini toimus Tartu ülikooli tehnoloogiainstituudis rahvusvaheline kohtumine “Mini MeVArc” – minikonverents kõrge elektrivälja juures toimuvad läbilöökide kohta, mida on uuritud juba 10 aastat.
Kohtumise eesmärgiks on arutada viimaseid arenguid vaakumläbilöökide teemal, mis on kriitilise tähtsusega uue planeeritud kompaktse lineaarkiirendi CLIC ehituses. Samuti arutatakse arenguid simulatsioonide ja eksperimentide viimaseid tulemusi.
Kohtumisest võtavad osa lisaks korraldajatele Tartu ülikooli tehnoloogiainstituudist tippteadlased Helsingi, Jeruusalemma, Uppsala ja Oxfordi Ülikoolidest ning CERN-ist. CERN ehk Euroopa tuumauuringute keskus haldab maailma suurimat osakeste füüsika laborit, mille eesmärgiks on universumi fundamentaalse struktuuri uurimine.
Alates 2013. aastast koordineerib Eesti ja CERN-i koostööd CLIC-i arenduses Tartu ülikooli arvutusliku materjaliteaduse vanemteadur Vahur Zadin. Vanemteaduri sõnul on tegu väga olulise üritusega mis aitab süvendada nii Tartu ülikooli kui CERN-i vahelist koostööd kui ka panustada uudsete osakeste kiirendite välja töötamisse millede kasutusvaldkonnad pole mitte ainult fundamentaalfüüsikas vaid näiteks ka meditsiinis ning vähiravis.
Kohtumise käigus tutvustatakse tippteadlastele samuti tehnoloogiainstituuti ja Physicumi ning samuti viiakse kurssi Eesti ajalooga Eesti Rahva Muuseumi külastuse käigus.
Lisainfo: Vahur Zadin, TÜ arvutusliku materjaliteaduse vanemteadur
https://reaalteadused.ut.ee/et/uudised/tartu-ulikoolis-toimumas-rahvusvaheline-cern-i-kohtumine
https://reaalteadused.ut.ee/et/uudised/tartu-ulikoolis-toimumas-rahvusvaheline-cern-i-kohtumine
22 October 2017 05:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lahendus ühendamiseks uuringuid tahke keha teooria, kvantväljateooria ja kosmoloogia alal.
Vastutaja: Vladimir Hižnjakov
Põhitäitjad:
Stefan Groote doktorikraad
Piret Kuuskk doktorikraad
Pavel Rubin Павел Рыбин doktorikraad
Alexei Sherman Aleksei Šerman doktorikraad
Teet Örd doktorikraad
Täitjad:
Helle Kaasik doktorikraad
Siim Ainsaar magistrikraad
Vadim Boltruško doktorikraad
Kevin Croker Fulbright'i külalisdoktorant
Vladimir Fedossejev doktorikraad
Mati Haas doktorikraad
Manuel Hohmann doktorikraad
Laur Järv doktorikraad
Lauri Kaldamäe Tehnilise Tõlke Keskus - programmeerija
Peet Konsin doktorikraad
Veera Krasnenko doktorikraad
Nikolai Kristoffel doktorikraad
Ülari Külaots
Roman Malõšev
Ott Vilson
Kaja Pae doktorant
Hannes Liivat doktorikraad
Ardi Loot magistrikraad
Luca Marzola doktorikraad
David Niinepuu magistrikraad
Aleksandr Pishtshev doktorikraad
Erik Randla magistrikraad
Inna Rebane doktorikraad
Liina Roots magistrikraad
Küllike Rägo doktorikraad
Margus Saall doktorikraad
Rein Saar Rein Saar doktorikraad
Chatraee Shahabedin magistrikraad
Olev Sild doktorikraad
Boris Sorkin doktorikraad
Aleksander Šelkan doktorikraad
Imbi Tehver doktorikraad
Priit Tuvike magistrikraad (teaduskraad)
Taavi Vaikjärv doktorikraad
Artjom Vargunin doktorikraad
Kadri Veende magistrikraad
Hardi Veermäe magistrikraad
Niina Voropajeva doktorikraad
https://reaalteadused.ut.ee/en
Vastutaja: Vladimir Hižnjakov
Põhitäitjad:
Stefan Groote doktorikraad
Piret Kuuskk doktorikraad
Pavel Rubin Павел Рыбин doktorikraad
Alexei Sherman Aleksei Šerman doktorikraad
Teet Örd doktorikraad
Täitjad:
Helle Kaasik doktorikraad
Siim Ainsaar magistrikraad
Vadim Boltruško doktorikraad
Kevin Croker Fulbright'i külalisdoktorant
Vladimir Fedossejev doktorikraad
Mati Haas doktorikraad
Manuel Hohmann doktorikraad
Laur Järv doktorikraad
Lauri Kaldamäe Tehnilise Tõlke Keskus - programmeerija
Peet Konsin doktorikraad
Veera Krasnenko doktorikraad
Nikolai Kristoffel doktorikraad
Ülari Külaots
Roman Malõšev
Ott Vilson
Kaja Pae doktorant
Hannes Liivat doktorikraad
Ardi Loot magistrikraad
Luca Marzola doktorikraad
David Niinepuu magistrikraad
Aleksandr Pishtshev doktorikraad
Erik Randla magistrikraad
Inna Rebane doktorikraad
Liina Roots magistrikraad
Küllike Rägo doktorikraad
Margus Saall doktorikraad
Rein Saar Rein Saar doktorikraad
Chatraee Shahabedin magistrikraad
Olev Sild doktorikraad
Boris Sorkin doktorikraad
Aleksander Šelkan doktorikraad
Imbi Tehver doktorikraad
Priit Tuvike magistrikraad (teaduskraad)
Taavi Vaikjärv doktorikraad
Artjom Vargunin doktorikraad
Kadri Veende magistrikraad
Hardi Veermäe magistrikraad
Niina Voropajeva doktorikraad
https://reaalteadused.ut.ee/en
https://reaalteadused.ut.ee/en
22 October 2017 05:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
22 October 2017 04:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eriti siis:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213288955235140&set=p.10213288955235140&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213288955235140&set=p.10213288955235140&type=3&theater
22 October 2017 04:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kiilakas lips vs sinine
22 October 2017 04:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Ma nüüd ka ei ole päris kindel, et see tulemus siin olema peaks selline nagu projekti lõpp faas seda ette kujutas:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213278784180870
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213278784180870
22 October 2017 04:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
olgugi, et selle mehe seisukohad võivad Tuska tekitada, siis teisipidi vaadatuna, kõrgelt tulnud auavaldus, arusaama avaldus,
kui vaid Vaimu ülejäänud maaga ka ühendusse saame22 October 2017 04:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kalev Undritz's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Pole midagi, kui neil vaja, siis Tallinna Vaim kaitseb ja Juhib!
//märge pildi osas, mis postituses kaasas
(Muide, Brittide Vene saatkonda turvas ametlikult inglismaal Eesti ESS ... silt siiani seinapeal, kui keegi jäädvustust soovib)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213288134814630&set=pcb.10213288138014710&type=3&theater22 October 2017 04:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Rahus olemist vahest ei saada aru, sest eeldatakse, et Sa siis ei kisu hälbete vastu sõtta või, et näiteks tundub, et inimene on hoopis rahul (oma arust. Kuid TEGELIKULT ei ole mitte Rahul, vaid Rahus, ... nu vähemalt proovime kohe kui meelde tuleb, et miks me elame)
22 October 2017 03:48
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's life event.
"No animals was harmed during this project"
(Should also add there, for ..)
(Should also add there, for ..)
22 October 2017 03:34
Margus Meigo replied to Michael Netherton's comment.
Quote:
“No city in the world has such a wealth of public parks and pleasure grounds as lie within its area; no city in the world has such natural and economical advantages for commerce, or on so grand a scale.”
&
"The nearer these eight millions can get to their places of employment, and, at the same time enjoy the comforts and well-being of salubrious homes the better it will be for the entire community, and, therefore, it is in the development of this new and most attractive region, with its magnificent system of grand parks, and its wonderful hydrographic features, that we must endeavor to exercise a wise judgment, and an unequalled skill.”"
..So anyway, it is not Gothic nor soviet, but what did these people think and Do,
what was their dreams and who friends,
So when we look this building, we can know for certain: "This kind of thinking and history happen around here, because of..."
“No city in the world has such a wealth of public parks and pleasure grounds as lie within its area; no city in the world has such natural and economical advantages for commerce, or on so grand a scale.”
&
"The nearer these eight millions can get to their places of employment, and, at the same time enjoy the comforts and well-being of salubrious homes the better it will be for the entire community, and, therefore, it is in the development of this new and most attractive region, with its magnificent system of grand parks, and its wonderful hydrographic features, that we must endeavor to exercise a wise judgment, and an unequalled skill.”"
..So anyway, it is not Gothic nor soviet, but what did these people think and Do,
what was their dreams and who friends,
So when we look this building, we can know for certain: "This kind of thinking and history happen around here, because of..."
22 October 2017 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to Michael Netherton's comment.
oh, okey its not a living house
22 October 2017 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to Michael Netherton's comment.
(people living like animals for experiment, top of each other)
22 October 2017 02:53
Margus Meigo replied to Michael Netherton's comment.
looks Soviet to me
22 October 2017 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on Gary Lawrance's post.
Group: The Gilded Age Society
Only thing more glorious is Natural22 October 2017 02:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And massive amount of Red mushrooms have gone from Estonia woods,
have been hearing that around the Estonia.. what is going on with it..
have been hearing that around the Estonia.. what is going on with it..
20 October 2017 23:25
Margus Meigo commented on VaimuKeha's post.
Naine kes punane seelik, jalad mehe poole, tema vastas sedasi on, peaks pigem solvuma, kui mees ei sooviks teha sedam ida ta soovib,
kuigi, pilt eksitav, norimiseks
kuigi, pilt eksitav, norimiseks
20 October 2017 22:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
+
"Jüri Muttika käis uue AK eel stuudios närvilist õhkkonda loomas "
"Jüri Muttika käis uue AK eel stuudios närvilist õhkkonda loomas "
20 October 2017 22:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
confused people should get perhaps more focus on help then making then as medical experiment subject
20 October 2017 22:13
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's post.
sounds worrysame
20 October 2017 22:13
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Altau's post.
Well, lets keep in mind the world view of KGB and their oldest largest plans
20 October 2017 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on Marjanco Stojanovski's post.
really
20 October 2017 22:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/index.html
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/index.html
20 October 2017 22:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPAFah0iTDM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPAFah0iTDM
20 October 2017 22:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.ft.com/content/0a5a4404-7c8e-11e7-ab01-a13271d1ee9c
https://www.ft.com/content/0a5a4404-7c8e-11e7-ab01-a13271d1ee9c
20 October 2017 22:01
Margus Meigo commented on Gurupkar Singh's post.
Also, to take the magic mushrooms,
Red and blue
in Gods trust
Red and blue
in Gods trust
20 October 2017 22:01
Margus Meigo commented on Nakimuli Pavine Tibana's post.
Trusting is minimum level, of evolving higher planes in love league
life work to find and teach each other, to trust
life work to find and teach each other, to trust
20 October 2017 21:59
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Sagen's post.
Ei teata msi kristuski on, mida sisi veel antikristusest..
20 October 2017 21:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Siin ka. EKRE, IRL
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213276838012217
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213276838012217
20 October 2017 21:36
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
elu mahlasust
20 October 2017 21:34
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
jätke võtmed väljapoole..
20 October 2017 20:57
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
eks seda parandame
20 October 2017 20:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
20 October 2017 17:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
20 October 2017 16:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
err il pole ainukesena siis keeleprobleeme
20 October 2017 13:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lisaks veel mõistatus, mis see on:
"Kui te valima ei lähe, kuidas siis aru saada, et teil ei ole ükskõik, et te olete just vastu? Kuidas teha nii, et teie häält oleks kuulda"
+
"Ükskõik mis nad lubavad, mille eest nad välja astuvad, meie astume vastu. Nende vastu, kõikide vastu.*
(üheMaailma võimsama inimese positsioonile pürgija suust, vene peauudistes)
"Kui te valima ei lähe, kuidas siis aru saada, et teil ei ole ükskõik, et te olete just vastu? Kuidas teha nii, et teie häält oleks kuulda"
+
"Ükskõik mis nad lubavad, mille eest nad välja astuvad, meie astume vastu. Nende vastu, kõikide vastu.*
(üheMaailma võimsama inimese positsioonile pürgija suust, vene peauudistes)
20 October 2017 13:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Sellised laused, siis korra veel:
"Kui te valima ei lähe, kuidas siis aru saada, et teil ei ole ükskõik, et te olete just vastu? Kuidas teha nii, et teie häält oleks kuulda"
"Ükskõik mis nad lubavad, mille eest nad välja astuvad, meie astume vastu. Nende vastu, kõikide vastu.
"Kui te valima ei lähe, kuidas siis aru saada, et teil ei ole ükskõik, et te olete just vastu? Kuidas teha nii, et teie häält oleks kuulda"
"Ükskõik mis nad lubavad, mille eest nad välja astuvad, meie astume vastu. Nende vastu, kõikide vastu.
20 October 2017 13:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
samal romantiliste kaitsjate selgituste ajal paraleel ühendatud maailmas,
20 October 2017 13:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// igatahes pilk uuesti pildile,
mittte minumõtet ärge siin järgige, mõelge ise, mis lugu see olla võiks:
aga hästi muidugi nendel kes uudiseid pole näinud aga on kursis lauluga
mittte minumõtet ärge siin järgige, mõelge ise, mis lugu see olla võiks:
aga hästi muidugi nendel kes uudiseid pole näinud aga on kursis lauluga
20 October 2017 13:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei nu soeng ka kahtlaselt silutud ikka, samas kui skaut vms siis normaalne jälle.
Oleneb meelestatusest, miks
Oleneb meelestatusest, miks
20 October 2017 13:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
v kõige lipsum habe..
20 October 2017 13:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
(kõige habesem lips keda näinud)
20 October 2017 13:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Keegi puutinile küll nii ligi mitme mikrofoniga tulnud pole vist...
// ebaoluline, kõrvalmõte
// ebaoluline, kõrvalmõte
20 October 2017 13:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ega nimi meest pintsakus ei muuda
20 October 2017 13:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Vahepaus, pingeliseks läks
20 October 2017 13:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
edit pärast
20 October 2017 13:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
reklaami
20 October 2017 13:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
isegi, Nii ebaoluline, et samal ajal tuleb Centrumi kaubanduskeskuse reklaam
20 October 2017 13:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Proovime, sellele nüüd mõelda
20 October 2017 13:35
Margus Meigo replied to Merle Kaljundi's comment.
pealegi, ma mõtlesin, et see vahepeal oli, mu isa, või kellegi muu isa, kes seda tegi, kuid eks jah.. mehed ole süsteemi ohvrid
19 October 2017 02:43
Margus Meigo commented on Esoteric Empyre's video.
19 October 2017 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's post.
i know right,
like the Old Testament, last sentence,
I plan to do also for real
like the Old Testament, last sentence,
I plan to do also for real
19 October 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja siis mingi jutt.. "16. oktoobri ehk esmaspäeva päeval see kahekordistus ning teisipäeva õhtul oli neid näiteks Vilsandi mõõtejama andmetel suisa 20 µg/m3 kohta. Kehtivate normide järgi ei tohiks peenosakesi olla ööpäeva jooksul kuupmeetris õhus rohkem kui 50 mikrogrammi.
http://novaator.err.ee/637319/kui-tervistkahjustav-vois-olla-pimeduse-toonud-tahmapilv-ja-maardunud-vihm
http://novaator.err.ee/637319/kui-tervistkahjustav-vois-olla-pimeduse-toonud-tahmapilv-ja-maardunud-vihm
http://novaator.err.ee/637319/kui-tervistkahjustav-vois-olla-pimeduse-toonud-tahmapilv-ja-maardunud-vihm
19 October 2017 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Anderson's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
ma juba loodsin, et seeni19 October 2017 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on Thomas Mason Kerr Trepanier's post.
was it Linkin..who in the end was still finished off..
we newer believe our self to be that way
we newer believe our self to be that way
19 October 2017 00:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: GREY LODGE
Thomas Mason Kerr Trepanier nice one19 October 2017 00:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: GREY LODGE
Thank You : )19 October 2017 00:56
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Mason Kerr Trepanier's comment.
19 October 2017 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on Thomas Mason Kerr Trepanier's post.
19 October 2017 00:54
Margus Meigo replied to Merle Kaljundi's comment.
K
Põrgupõhja Uus Vanapagan
Põrgupõhja Uus Vanapagan
19 October 2017 00:30
Margus Meigo replied to Merle Kaljundi's comment.
Emad on nagunii kõigetähtsamad, seda teavad kõik,
--
Lisamärked:
" Emad on nagunii kõigetähtsamad, seda teavad kõik,
Peale naise,
ja nende kellel naine lasknud need teadmised peast kaotsi ja läbi selle ise kaotanud ka oskuse neid tagasi tekitada,
midagi hästi elementaarset.
1. ravida inimene / olla ise ravijaks valmis
2. siis kui ravitud saab toimiva Õpetuse (õpetusesükli) anda
3. (Lugeda läbi kõik LuuleViilma raamatud ja teha Elu Õpetuse Kunsti seerias parandustrük / + täis kokkuvõte, oma mehele, mis moodi elu on ja mida saab millega korda, sellises järjekorras)
KUid ema austus jääb ikka pidama
--
Lisamärked:
" Emad on nagunii kõigetähtsamad, seda teavad kõik,
Peale naise,
ja nende kellel naine lasknud need teadmised peast kaotsi ja läbi selle ise kaotanud ka oskuse neid tagasi tekitada,
midagi hästi elementaarset.
1. ravida inimene / olla ise ravijaks valmis
2. siis kui ravitud saab toimiva Õpetuse (õpetusesükli) anda
3. (Lugeda läbi kõik LuuleViilma raamatud ja teha Elu Õpetuse Kunsti seerias parandustrük / + täis kokkuvõte, oma mehele, mis moodi elu on ja mida saab millega korda, sellises järjekorras)
KUid ema austus jääb ikka pidama
18 October 2017 23:53
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
tagasihoidlik
18 October 2017 23:21
Margus Meigo commented on The Archaeologist's post.
Group: The Archaeologist Official Group
"We only ask that you do not advertise, share pornographic links/pictures and any political or religious propaganda. "
Can we Honestly know then about Giants, when this findings are told to be labeled "Religious"
Whatever you find, even if just ONE of these GIANT bones story seems to be true that is not integrated in to Ape theory book18 October 2017 23:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
18 October 2017 22:50
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Sammalselg's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
nu jah sellest võid privas rääkid,a
muidu nagu Troll18 October 2017 22:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Õigus jahm, on jah suts hämar,
Kuid sisu on Hele
"Veelgi vähem, Sinu sõnades, on KODU parandamiseks ja hingeSoojuseks Kasu"18 October 2017 22:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ants Sammalselg sinu jutu sisul , sisust, oli veelgivähem Kogu parandaiseks ja hingesoojuseks kasu18 October 2017 22:47
Margus Meigo replied to Margot Rebane's comment.
18 October 2017 22:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Janek Pant Pakkumine on: OLe KoduVaimne
KuningAatelik,
Kuid aru ma ei mõista, meeldib Sul viisnurk, kuusnurk, rist või rooma impeeriumi kotkas ja muud need sümbolid mütsil ja rahal.
Ei nori veel aga mis teema sellega on,
--
Mis siin kõvata, tõsta oksale, et näeksin mis mõtled,
Kas märgid katsed praeguste süsteemide sassi ajamiseks (neid, ikkagi näidatagi on ../ebahea/ märkide omanikule kasulik,
/erandina vb/ ...kui just pole õige rist)
--
MUl üks koht ka tulekul kui saan fokuseeritud, kus Väga vaja kes seletaks erinate tõdede kihte ja tagamaid,
ehk mäluga mehi, kes mäletavad arusaami ja sisusi mis vaatevinklist tol ajal keda vaadeti ja kuidas läbi kelle ilmselgelt maiselt kindlalt asju aeti lisaks siis sellele mis läbi vanajumala välja lõpuks tuli ja loodetavasti tuleb18 October 2017 22:32
Margus Meigo replied to Leone Kikkas's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
kelle meeled ka kaitstud18 October 2017 22:09
Margus Meigo replied to Leone Kikkas's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
muidu ainuüksi juba sõjaväliselt urvarisk jms hullu,
väga tuntud hea inimene ikka peab olema18 October 2017 22:09
Margus Meigo replied to Leone Kikkas's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kui ta just hea kontrolli läbinud, tõestamaks, et Jumalameelne18 October 2017 22:08
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Tooming's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
ei nu Päris juudid mõtlevad ikka sedasi:
olgem nüüd ausad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op8F6UVPUsA
.:.
http://bit.ly/Jew_Talkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op8F6UVPUsA
18 October 2017 22:06
Margus Meigo commented on Vincent Salvatore Michael Scioli's post.
Tondald is The Media,
Part of the main sections of the powers, what side ones chooses, is only option
Part of the main sections of the powers, what side ones chooses, is only option
18 October 2017 21:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
muidugi pool googlet ("AlphaBet") ka venemaise juudi käes, kuid tema, loodame , on Eestimeelne
(sest kui pole siis tueb muuta või saab meile ebahea olema, kogu see kompott 30 a pärast naturaalsed tuleused kui teatud pinnal teatud seemeneid kasvada lasta)18 October 2017 21:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
(googles oelmas teemad )18 October 2017 21:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
siis vahest leiti briti luurajate turvamajadest, kõva agent oma toas alasti spordikotis, meedias kirjad juures, et ju tal homo mees käis külas..
Briti Luure andmetes ja jutus tuleb jah.. siin kuulata paar korda enne kui jooksma hakata18 October 2017 21:29
Margus Meigo commented on Kalev Undritz's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Vanasti üks Briti Luure juhte töötaks KGB s,
Eks ta ka igast ohte nägi ete ja koolitas psüholoogiliselt välja mitmeid tip USA luure spetsalistegi kuninglikus austuses18 October 2017 21:27
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Kukk's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
võimas, isegi oma konservatiivsete plaanide tarvis talt ammu plaaninud toetust küsida,
ma ikkagi official maailmaparandaja peagi18 October 2017 21:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
18 October 2017 21:20
Margus Meigo commented on Maret Vaanola's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
NU See on vedu, kui EKRE IRL istub ja IRL, iSamaaliseks uuesti end pidama hakkab,
sest muidu EKREL on ainult need suunad pärast alluda mis ette mängiti,
nende poolt, kes siin Eestis oma arust meie koduvastast poliitikat suures plaanis pikemalt ajalt lõplikult kontrollima enda punti uskus võimeline panema olema, nagu ke-ge-be tasemel haaretega mõttesuurtest, räägime, kes maardla ja parkimiskohta müügigi osas, võimeline oma väärikuses millise iganes pärismaalase kodu üle võtma ja kasulikuks endale teha,
antakse ju odavalt18 October 2017 21:19
Margus Meigo commented on Andi Hall's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ta on mingi veidrik vist18 October 2017 21:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Mõelge ise, kui vanem inimene sisse tuleb, v visuaalne inimene, mida ta siin näeb ja mõtleb, tavainimeselgi, süda läigib18 October 2017 19:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
17 October 2017 04:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
some have to be from another level also, not just from
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/Welcome/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/842036/afosr-physical-sciences/#anchor9
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/Welcome/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/842036/afosr-physical-sciences/#anchor9
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/Welcome/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/842036/afosr-physical-sciences/#anchor9
17 October 2017 04:16
Margus Meigo commented on AFOSR, Air Force Office of Scientific Research's photo.
17 October 2017 04:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
17 October 2017 04:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
17 October 2017 03:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Some might start to think relation to be: http://bit.ly/Remote_CIA
http://bit.ly/Remote_CIA
17 October 2017 03:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
From topics to :
click to original
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP97M00248R000400860001-2.pdf
warm-up to nice if one can make difference between various kind of sensing that is taken in to account
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp10m02313r000704000005-5
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP92B00181R001701640058-9.pdf
etc right..
click to original
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP97M00248R000400860001-2.pdf
warm-up to nice if one can make difference between various kind of sensing that is taken in to account
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp10m02313r000704000005-5
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP92B00181R001701640058-9.pdf
etc right..
17 October 2017 03:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Also in
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212372893014157&set=a.10212372857173261.1073741882.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212372893014157&set=a.10212372857173261.1073741882.1135161043&type=3&theater
17 October 2017 03:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Struggle less cut more
17 October 2017 03:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tracking, detecting, and characterizing
https://www.facebook.com/afosr/posts/10155631381951425
https://www.facebook.com/afosr/posts/10155631381951425
17 October 2017 03:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
When we can make so much with electronics, can You imagine how much we can do with out electronics!
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/afosrremotesensing?source=feed_text&story_id=10155631381951425
Much more
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/afosrremotesensing?source=feed_text&story_id=10155631381951425
Much more
17 October 2017 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Here as Well
https://www.reverbnation.com/ragztheking510/song/19753916-struggle--ft-yc-tha-code-ragz-king
https://www.reverbnation.com/ragztheking510/song/19753916-struggle--ft-yc-tha-code-ragz-king
https://www.reverbnation.com/ragztheking510/song/19753916-struggle--ft-yc-tha-code-ragz-king
17 October 2017 02:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Dealing with it
https://soundcloud.com/a-o-lyrical-1/aolyrical-dealing-with-itprod-by-nujabes
https://soundcloud.com/a-o-lyrical-1/aolyrical-dealing-with-itprod-by-nujabes
https://soundcloud.com/a-o-lyrical-1/aolyrical-dealing-with-itprod-by-nujabes
17 October 2017 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Also from old g33k times
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.1863491663764.2105367.1135161043&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.1863491663764.2105367.1135161043&type=3
17 October 2017 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on Mike Saunders's post.
Group: cDc Ninja Strike Force
Deleted, did he go topless?
.. well, FB assumes a lot..17 October 2017 02:28
Margus Meigo replied to Aleksandar Nikolikj's comment.
17 October 2017 02:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov mis moodi Siis Sa soovitaks, neil Rahuneda, et nad saaksid Kindlustunde, et Rahvas juba teab, et on Ainujumal olemas, seda ei ole vaja paaniliselt joosta ja promoda, et Jumal võtnud aega, et kõigine jõuda omal ajal.
17 October 2017 01:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
17 October 2017 01:37
Margus Meigo replied to Kristjan Baumer's comment.
Lauri Jürgenson seee alatu jah, et nii madalaid lööke me pole arjunud kaitsma, me Riigi pihta.
Kuid kuidas Naine nõusse saadi, kas ta polnud siis üldse Patriootlik, ega Eestimainegi, ega kaine, et me Riigi heaolu hoolimatult kahjustama oli nõus, vast ilma tasutagi, teadmatusest kuidas emotsioone manipuleeritakse, nii, et vead siiraks jäävad, segadus püsima ja tagasihoidlikus jätab privaatsusega väärselgitused rahva meeltesse
Kuid kuidas Naine nõusse saadi, kas ta polnud siis üldse Patriootlik, ega Eestimainegi, ega kaine, et me Riigi heaolu hoolimatult kahjustama oli nõus, vast ilma tasutagi, teadmatusest kuidas emotsioone manipuleeritakse, nii, et vead siiraks jäävad, segadus püsima ja tagasihoidlikus jätab privaatsusega väärselgitused rahva meeltesse
17 October 2017 01:34
Margus Meigo replied to Kristjan Baumer's comment.
ega mehe meeskond siis mehe viike riku
17 October 2017 01:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Siin ka
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213263026826946&set=p.10213263026826946&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213263026826946&set=p.10213263026826946&type=3&theater
17 October 2017 01:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nagu ajas mõlematpidi liikumine ja mille seest kuhupoole saame
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213252672048083
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213252672048083
17 October 2017 01:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Can You imagine the times when Eesti mafiosid nagu Ivar ja Ragnar olid nii laiade arbuusidega, et ainult #Æthelweard veel sai neid eemal hoida,
"...Legend has it that the united army was led by the three sons of Ragnar Lodbrok: Halfdan Ragnarsson, Ivar the Boneless (Hingwar), and Ubba..."
"...Legend has it that the united army was led by the three sons of Ragnar Lodbrok: Halfdan Ragnarsson, Ivar the Boneless (Hingwar), and Ubba..."
17 October 2017 01:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
full post related matter
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213263660842796
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213263660842796
17 October 2017 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Edit the war, result
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213263584680892&set=a.10203822986631841.1073741829.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213263584680892&set=a.10203822986631841.1073741829.1135161043&type=3&theater
17 October 2017 01:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
about
"Despite this setback, Æthelwulf did have some success against the Vikings. The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle has repeated references during his reign of victories won by ealdormen with the men of their shires.[9] However, the raiding of England continued on and off until the 860s, when instead of raiding, the Vikings changed their tactics and sent a great army to invade England. This army was described by the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle as a "Great Heathen Army" (OE: mycel hæþen here or mycel heathen here)" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Heathen_Army
Just do not think it means anything
"Despite this setback, Æthelwulf did have some success against the Vikings. The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle has repeated references during his reign of victories won by ealdormen with the men of their shires.[9] However, the raiding of England continued on and off until the 860s, when instead of raiding, the Vikings changed their tactics and sent a great army to invade England. This army was described by the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle as a "Great Heathen Army" (OE: mycel hæþen here or mycel heathen here)" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Heathen_Army
Just do not think it means anything
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Heathen_Army
17 October 2017 00:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
As told in
https://www.geni.com/discussions/129645?msg=1171919
https://www.geni.com/discussions/129645?msg=1171919
https://www.geni.com/discussions/129645?msg=1171919
17 October 2017 00:47
Margus Meigo commented on Erik Arro's photo.
In 2 hour 1 minute:
https://youtu.be/M2l4M6SdwjY?t=7262
https://youtu.be/M2l4M6SdwjY?t=7262
https://youtu.be/M2l4M6SdwjY?t=7262
17 October 2017 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on Miller Marun Zavs's post.
Group: Donald J. Trump. President of the United States Facebook Group
I hope You can not just Target but protect also,
And more then this, i wonder, who would be last highest level man who is still forced to wear Tie,
and who is daring to leave, complete forever this piece of strangeness to the past where that strangeness belongs (society norms who forced people to wear most unproductive clothing in ages)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=365436527157835&set=picfp.100010744714271.365436510491170&type=3&theater17 October 2017 00:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The highest also planes to drop Tie., but is still a bit worried, is it worth
17 October 2017 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to Oleg Stanisĺavovich Sychugov's comment.
Putin also planes to drop Tie., but is still a bit worried, is it worth
16 October 2017 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on Ariel Rockefeller's photo.
16 October 2017 23:58
Margus Meigo commented on Katya Sydameke's post.
16 October 2017 23:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
16 October 2017 23:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
16 October 2017 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov kui oleks õige saade siis võiks kästa küll
16 October 2017 23:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
minu arusaama sügavused on teistmoodi
16 October 2017 23:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
täiesti haige mis suguste sõnakommentaaridega lubatakse, aga varsti neiel hakkavad tulema õiged vastused...
16 October 2017 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(palunj kirjuta siia, mis moodi Sa saad pesu endal puhtaks, kui paljusi tead kes muudmoodi?)
( : )
( : )
16 October 2017 22:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mõtlen sellsie weebi palem is ma teen, et ei saaks olla mositlikult paranoiline sääl
16 October 2017 22:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
veider, et alguses tundus, et esimene tostitus ei läinud läbi, või kuidas muidu testime mis postitus on läbi tulnud, ja netti läinud, ikka läbi ühendatud teenuste, et kas tiese teenusesse ilmus, mis avalik, praelleis vaevalt kaks lehte selliselt koostööd teeb,
ja seda saab omakorda, twitteri juba sadade kylge yhedada, SMS ist kuni SMS sõbralt muumaalt, kes mingile lehele suunatult seda nägema peaks :
sellisel tasemel, mitu astet sidumised,
peaks oelma piisav enamsue intenreti paranoidikute rahustamiseks ?
ja seda saab omakorda, twitteri juba sadade kylge yhedada, SMS ist kuni SMS sõbralt muumaalt, kes mingile lehele suunatult seda nägema peaks :
sellisel tasemel, mitu astet sidumised,
peaks oelma piisav enamsue intenreti paranoidikute rahustamiseks ?
16 October 2017 22:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Siin ka
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213262809541514
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213262809541514
16 October 2017 22:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(st. need kommentaarid mis selle postituse all sääl, ei oel sellel URLil kui see mida jagati lahti võeti, kuigi mis siin erinevust on)
16 October 2017 22:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(kliki URL il et esimese kommentaari paraleel vastust näha)
// Paraleel dimesnioonide testid ka avalikud...Weebiilma näited
// Paraleel dimesnioonide testid ka avalikud...Weebiilma näited
16 October 2017 22:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ei ole seal
16 October 2017 22:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kommentaarid mis on siin
16 October 2017 22:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Järgmine, Nr, 2, Next
16 October 2017 21:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
16 October 2017 21:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
16 October 2017 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Veider, et kogu ilma pealt, Eestlasi pole ollagi, kuid Matyushkinile meeldib,
Ja siis peaksime arvama, et võõrtuste nägemine toimib reaalselt siin,
Ei, aga KUi nad saaks lisada endale profiili juurde, mida soovivad näha, siis vast oleks küll mõistlik, juba sellist postituste nägemis feedi mingis grupsi teha, lausa erti tuunitud feedi võib pakkuda lõpuks as lõpp teenusena mida leidlikus ja inimeste usk annab toota
Ja siis peaksime arvama, et võõrtuste nägemine toimib reaalselt siin,
Ei, aga KUi nad saaks lisada endale profiili juurde, mida soovivad näha, siis vast oleks küll mõistlik, juba sellist postituste nägemis feedi mingis grupsi teha, lausa erti tuunitud feedi võib pakkuda lõpuks as lõpp teenusena mida leidlikus ja inimeste usk annab toota
16 October 2017 21:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Ohoo Toomas : )
16 October 2017 20:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Äitah, see ikka toeks!
15 October 2017 20:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis juhuslikult punanae äripäev lisab selliseid uudiseid samalajal:
http://www.aripaev.ee/uudised/2017/10/12/roivase-juhitud-aridelegatsiooni-liikmed-ahistasid-naisi
" EASi 34liikmeline delegatsioon oli Malaisias ja Singapuris kümnepäevasel visiidil, visiidist võttis osa ka Rõivase abikaasa Luisa, kes kattis enda kulud ise. Eesti Päevaleht kirjutas, et ajal, kui delegatsioon oli Malaisias, puhkas Luisa Balil.
Pärast ametlikke üritusi Malaisias läks osa delegatsiooni liikmeid baari lõõgastuma, kaasa kutsuti ka kohapeal töötavaid eestlasi ja teisi, kellega visiidil tutvuti, peamiselt naisi. "Meeleolu mõistmiseks sobib ilmselt süütuilmelise loo kirjeldus. Üks delegatsiooni liige kallas naisvestluskaaslase joogiga üle ja kommenteeris seda ühemõttelise lausejupiga: "Ma tahtsin sind märjaks teha."," kirjeldas väljaanne.
Vähemalt üks eestlasest naine sattus ka agressiivse seksuaalse ahistamise ohvriks, veel kaks naist kogesid peol soovimatuid lähenemiskatseid. Loe lähemalt tänasest Eesti Päevalehest.
Rõivas, kes samuti kõnealuses seltskonnas viibis, esitas delegatsiooni liidrina eile ametliku vabanduse. EAS aga otsustas basseiniitsidendiga seotud mehe lülitada aastaks ajaks välja oma ärivisiitide delegatsioonide koosseisust. "
http://www.aripaev.ee/uudised/2017/10/12/roivase-juhitud-aridelegatsiooni-liikmed-ahistasid-naisi
" EASi 34liikmeline delegatsioon oli Malaisias ja Singapuris kümnepäevasel visiidil, visiidist võttis osa ka Rõivase abikaasa Luisa, kes kattis enda kulud ise. Eesti Päevaleht kirjutas, et ajal, kui delegatsioon oli Malaisias, puhkas Luisa Balil.
Pärast ametlikke üritusi Malaisias läks osa delegatsiooni liikmeid baari lõõgastuma, kaasa kutsuti ka kohapeal töötavaid eestlasi ja teisi, kellega visiidil tutvuti, peamiselt naisi. "Meeleolu mõistmiseks sobib ilmselt süütuilmelise loo kirjeldus. Üks delegatsiooni liige kallas naisvestluskaaslase joogiga üle ja kommenteeris seda ühemõttelise lausejupiga: "Ma tahtsin sind märjaks teha."," kirjeldas väljaanne.
Vähemalt üks eestlasest naine sattus ka agressiivse seksuaalse ahistamise ohvriks, veel kaks naist kogesid peol soovimatuid lähenemiskatseid. Loe lähemalt tänasest Eesti Päevalehest.
Rõivas, kes samuti kõnealuses seltskonnas viibis, esitas delegatsiooni liidrina eile ametliku vabanduse. EAS aga otsustas basseiniitsidendiga seotud mehe lülitada aastaks ajaks välja oma ärivisiitide delegatsioonide koosseisust. "
http://www.aripaev.ee/uudised/2017/10/12/roivase-juhitud-aridelegatsiooni-liikmed-ahistasid-naisi
15 October 2017 16:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja siis sellised Uudiste URL id.. nu tule taevas appi:
" http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/fotod-taavi-roivas-kohtus-ahistamisohvriga-vestlus-kestis-kaks-tundi-kas-ekspeaminister-uritas-veenda-naist-suudistustest-loobuma?id=79806122#!dgs=dgsee-203940:3zrMAAeKqQnAY7iQC3ZzKe "
" http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/fotod-taavi-roivas-kohtus-ahistamisohvriga-vestlus-kestis-kaks-tundi-kas-ekspeaminister-uritas-veenda-naist-suudistustest-loobuma?id=79806122#!dgs=dgsee-203940:3zrMAAeKqQnAY7iQC3ZzKe "
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/fotod-taavi-roivas-kohtus-ahistamisohvriga-vestlus-kestis-kaks-tundi-kas-ekspeaminister-uritas-veenda-naist-suudistustest-loobuma?id=79806122#!dgs=dgsee-203940:3zrMAAeKqQnAY7iQC3ZzKe
15 October 2017 16:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
esimese hooga sellsied asjad enemasti. alati meie kultuuri ruumis tuleb mõelda, et on punaste fabritseeritud, või tektiatud, disainitud,
sest ainult sedasi saavad nad meie moraali jms maha võtta, meis endis ja uu sovieetameerikat siia standardiks panna, kus ringimagamine ja petmine on standardiks
sest ainult sedasi saavad nad meie moraali jms maha võtta, meis endis ja uu sovieetameerikat siia standardiks panna, kus ringimagamine ja petmine on standardiks
15 October 2017 15:50
Margus Meigo commented on Raul Raudsepp's post.
NU see on see kui inimesed ei hoia diktofoni taskus, lambad on lambad,.
Sellsitel positsioonidel inimestel peab 24/7 PIDEVALT lindistama, ei miskit off the record, sest kõik mis on OFF tõlgendatakse kõige hullemaks.
Alati kaitsnud naisi siiani, kuid elu on õpetnaud, et müstilisi arusaamatusi ja sulaselgeid olematusi saab selgest taevasttulla ka kauaagsetelt lähedastelt tuttavatelt,
mis siis veel rääkida olukorrast, kus suured rahad, kuulsus, egod ja muusugune tavapärane tundemaailm mängus , kus on tavaline, et aknad sisse visatakse ja valesüüdistusi kättemaksuks, tehakse mõeldamatult
Sellsitel positsioonidel inimestel peab 24/7 PIDEVALT lindistama, ei miskit off the record, sest kõik mis on OFF tõlgendatakse kõige hullemaks.
Alati kaitsnud naisi siiani, kuid elu on õpetnaud, et müstilisi arusaamatusi ja sulaselgeid olematusi saab selgest taevasttulla ka kauaagsetelt lähedastelt tuttavatelt,
mis siis veel rääkida olukorrast, kus suured rahad, kuulsus, egod ja muusugune tavapärane tundemaailm mängus , kus on tavaline, et aknad sisse visatakse ja valesüüdistusi kättemaksuks, tehakse mõeldamatult
15 October 2017 15:49
Margus Meigo replied to Jana Tennosaar's comment.
PEAB olema salvestused. .see äärmine lohakus ja ebatarkus Eestlaste poolt, et nad pidevalt kõike, igatpidi, igalpool eisalvesta veel.. aru nad ei saa.. mis paremat tõestust ja kaitset saab neil olla, kui teise ja enda tegelikud, TEGELIKUD sõnad
tasuta need võimalused oelmas sel ajal.. ja ikka ei mõisteta...
arulage värk
tasuta need võimalused oelmas sel ajal.. ja ikka ei mõisteta...
arulage värk
15 October 2017 15:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mul kahju temas,t päriselt ka
15 October 2017 15:40
Margus Meigo commented on Raul Raudsepp's post.
Nu ma räägin, Rõivas polnud tal õige seljas, ega siis lipsuga saa kindlalt edasi kaugele minna,
ikka kampsuni jms vaja
ikka kampsuni jms vaja
15 October 2017 15:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga kasu ilmselget on, ka väärkasutades.
mõned räägivad, kes alkohoolsemad inimesed, et lausa pohmaka enda raviks, Korraliku kvaliteediga puhas piip suuresti aitab, silmapilgselt.
Ilma kõrvalmõjudeta.
mõned räägivad, kes alkohoolsemad inimesed, et lausa pohmaka enda raviks, Korraliku kvaliteediga puhas piip suuresti aitab, silmapilgselt.
Ilma kõrvalmõjudeta.
15 October 2017 15:39
Margus Meigo commented on Raul Raudsepp's post.
Ja kui kahtled, siis selist tarkust kuulda, et kui joomise asemel rohelist peale teed (Marijuaanat) siis kohe kindlama peale järgmine päev parem on.
Pole veel neist rohtudest pohmakat olnud ka kõige suuremate väärkasutuste juures.
Pole veel neist rohtudest pohmakat olnud ka kõige suuremate väärkasutuste juures.
15 October 2017 15:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
õppused või firmade erapidu,
On teine tänapäeva pop valik,
sest neil ka kombeks rakette lasta ja paugutada ilma põhjuseta ülejäänud linna rahu rikkuda
On teine tänapäeva pop valik,
sest neil ka kombeks rakette lasta ja paugutada ilma põhjuseta ülejäänud linna rahu rikkuda
15 October 2017 14:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
õppused, jääb enamustele Eestlastele lootus alati hinge
kudi nagu see lugu, et senikaua räägiti hundist kuni keegi enam ei uskunud...
kudi nagu see lugu, et senikaua räägiti hundist kuni keegi enam ei uskunud...
15 October 2017 14:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
keset päeva, tavaiminene arvaks, et miski automaadi valangud ja pauud, pikalt pikalt, ja mitte uusaasta paugud.
15 October 2017 14:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
15 October 2017 01:37
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Raudsepp's comment.
ja siis kui ma õhias tahtisn kohe küsima ja teavitus strateegiat jms tegema hakata,
naeris ta selle muhedalt välja, öeldes, et "Kamoon, KÕIK teavad kes vähegi nende struktuuridega seotud on, nad ei ole ise paremad, kedagi ei huvita ja teha nagunii midagi ei lastaks, "
Mitte sõnasõnalt, aga miskit sellist, kuid paremini ütles
naeris ta selle muhedalt välja, öeldes, et "Kamoon, KÕIK teavad kes vähegi nende struktuuridega seotud on, nad ei ole ise paremad, kedagi ei huvita ja teha nagunii midagi ei lastaks, "
Mitte sõnasõnalt, aga miskit sellist, kuid paremini ütles
15 October 2017 00:54
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Raudsepp's comment.
kuid keskerakond ammu teeb neid asju, mul omal sõber kelle nime ei saa mainida, kes tele ja video teenuseid pakub, ütles kuidas vanasti telliti teda võts protsti filmima,
kuidas kodutud kuskilt toodi furgoniga, pesti ära, kammiti, ülikonnad selga ja viinad ka sisse ja osa pärast juurde lubati.. ja siis Estonia ette protestima mingi asja tarvis
kuidas kodutud kuskilt toodi furgoniga, pesti ära, kammiti, ülikonnad selga ja viinad ka sisse ja osa pärast juurde lubati.. ja siis Estonia ette protestima mingi asja tarvis
15 October 2017 00:51
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Raudsepp's comment.
nii oleks liiga lihtne ametlike poliitikuid maha võtta
15 October 2017 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on Peep Õunapuu's post.
Ja veel nii, et me Maaelu ka sääl korda saab aetud..
14 October 2017 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on Gerdo Tennokese's post.
DHL on pakkide personaalse kiire kättetoimetamisega natukene üle pingutanud
14 October 2017 13:28
Margus Meigo replied to Merli Trolla's comment.
Nagu poliitikas, iga ühe töötaja kohta on paar avaliku elu nägu kes arvamusi avaldavad
14 October 2017 13:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Speakers:
https://www.homelandsecurityweek.com/speakers
https://www.homelandsecurityweek.com/speakers
https://www.homelandsecurityweek.com/speakers
13 October 2017 16:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The
12th Annual Homeland Security Week
will bring together 300+ individuals
ranging from DHS officials, industry executives, elected officials, and academia
from across the U.S. and global stakeholders to discuss the challenges at the
forefront of homeland security operations, policy and procurements. Key themes
running throughout the summit will be on
border management and surveillance,
cyber security and protecting critical infrastructure, processing, exploiting and
disseminating intelligence and ISR platforms, safe cities and information sharing
between state, local and federal agencies.
During the week you will have the opportunity to learn, share and connect with
thought leaders to discuss DHS priorities, the latest budget highlights and where
investments are being made to keep our homeland safe. With interactive discussion
groups and panels you will have the opportunity to be part of the summit sharing your
expertise whilst
learning about the agencies strategies, requirements and future
acquisitions.
International thought leaders will be participating this year to share
their experience and challenges as they deal with acts of terrorism from across the
world such as the ones in Manchester, Paris, Stockholm, Berlin, Brussels, London and
partnered nations.
12th Annual Homeland Security Week
will bring together 300+ individuals
ranging from DHS officials, industry executives, elected officials, and academia
from across the U.S. and global stakeholders to discuss the challenges at the
forefront of homeland security operations, policy and procurements. Key themes
running throughout the summit will be on
border management and surveillance,
cyber security and protecting critical infrastructure, processing, exploiting and
disseminating intelligence and ISR platforms, safe cities and information sharing
between state, local and federal agencies.
During the week you will have the opportunity to learn, share and connect with
thought leaders to discuss DHS priorities, the latest budget highlights and where
investments are being made to keep our homeland safe. With interactive discussion
groups and panels you will have the opportunity to be part of the summit sharing your
expertise whilst
learning about the agencies strategies, requirements and future
acquisitions.
International thought leaders will be participating this year to share
their experience and challenges as they deal with acts of terrorism from across the
world such as the ones in Manchester, Paris, Stockholm, Berlin, Brussels, London and
partnered nations.
13 October 2017 16:22
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's photo.
Aateline värk, Naine ees, Tulbi! : )
13 October 2017 13:14
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's photo.
See on jah nii nüri, et ma peaksin elukohta vahetama, et inimese poolt hääletada, kes kogu meie maa asjadele kasuks on, või linnade mida kasutame
13 October 2017 13:12
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Sõna otseses mõttes :D
13 October 2017 13:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et nende päris lugu ka esile jõuaks
13 October 2017 13:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
selline portaal ka plaanis mis nii politseile, ajakirjanikele kui kinnipeetutele abiks
13 October 2017 13:08
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
MIKS ei panda inimeste nimesi siis üles, et
KES see rattaga oli... mis osade salakuritegude kaitsmine see käib
küll rahas juba teaks rääkida, kas midagi toimub.. need asjad saab ka lahendatud..
KES see rattaga oli... mis osade salakuritegude kaitsmine see käib
küll rahas juba teaks rääkida, kas midagi toimub.. need asjad saab ka lahendatud..
13 October 2017 13:08
Margus Meigo replied to Alicee Coopers's comment.
Isamaliit peaks ikka olema vahe... kuig neid sügavalt rünnati kambakaga, siseleerist,
eks viisnurga, müürluse, esoteerika ja muumaa luuure vennad ole koostöös leidlikud kuidas meid likvideerida, mitu head käiku teinud,
Kuid Eestlastel on mituleeri tavara veel alles, Tarkusena
Ameerika isegi Eesti ja meie linnade nimelisi asukohti teinud,
et kui päris ära kaotatakse, siis saab ajalooraamatus rääkida, (kui tarvis) " et kunagi hoopis kuskil ameerika mandril ametlikult oli mingi sellise nimega asi... ja kuskil mingi vähene 700 000 keelerääkija komuun kuskil rootsi ja saksamaa vahel, vene vanades halduspiirkondades...
Kuid eks palju paremaid reaalsusi ka
http://estonianworld.com/business/san-antonio-tx-has-its-own-estonian-neighbourhood/
eks viisnurga, müürluse, esoteerika ja muumaa luuure vennad ole koostöös leidlikud kuidas meid likvideerida, mitu head käiku teinud,
Kuid Eestlastel on mituleeri tavara veel alles, Tarkusena
Ameerika isegi Eesti ja meie linnade nimelisi asukohti teinud,
et kui päris ära kaotatakse, siis saab ajalooraamatus rääkida, (kui tarvis) " et kunagi hoopis kuskil ameerika mandril ametlikult oli mingi sellise nimega asi... ja kuskil mingi vähene 700 000 keelerääkija komuun kuskil rootsi ja saksamaa vahel, vene vanades halduspiirkondades...
Kuid eks palju paremaid reaalsusi ka
http://estonianworld.com/business/san-antonio-tx-has-its-own-estonian-neighbourhood/
http://estonianworld.com/business/san-antonio-tx-has-its-own-estonian-neighbourhood/
13 October 2017 13:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Tuleb vaadata kes kelle taskuid täidab ja kes mis koosviibimistel vabal ajal käib
13 October 2017 13:00
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's live video.
Parimat !
www.linnapea.ee Proovin sellega ka aidata :p
www.linnapea.ee Proovin sellega ka aidata :p
http://www.linnapea.ee/
13 October 2017 12:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui vaid siin ilmas seda kasutada saaksin.. turvalsielt..
13 October 2017 12:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Head lõpusõnad seegi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMOKL1j8MVM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMOKL1j8MVM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMOKL1j8MVM
13 October 2017 08:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg0ptNRYpSU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg0ptNRYpSU
13 October 2017 08:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeI_BEnk8yw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeI_BEnk8yw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeI_BEnk8yw
13 October 2017 08:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aufMlA8hQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aufMlA8hQw
13 October 2017 08:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
13 October 2017 01:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vau,
lasnamäe kondsert
https://youtu.be/4ynIZDuvbq8?t=2407
lasnamäe kondsert
https://youtu.be/4ynIZDuvbq8?t=2407
https://youtu.be/4ynIZDuvbq8?t=2407
13 October 2017 01:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja Võtmetelaul veel omaette lugu...
//ajastu ka veel
//ajastu ka veel
13 October 2017 01:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
see tundus nagu uus laul täitsa
https://sasslantis.ee/lyrics-anne_veski-kallis_kuula
https://sasslantis.ee/lyrics-anne_veski-kallis_kuula
13 October 2017 01:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
võisin ka eksida, sest mingid muud asjad said ju tehtud
13 October 2017 01:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
mis komme see on FB ,
et nüüd pead häid asju kaks korda postitama,,
et need kohale jääks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3cfoHGP0CM
et nüüd pead häid asju kaks korda postitama,,
et need kohale jääks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3cfoHGP0CM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3cfoHGP0CM
13 October 2017 01:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
NIce cooking hat Ande
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21950618_1580873558637473_9205118810191098619_o.jpg?oh=e153652ca23a6549db025a2f86a0a396&oe=5A75FEF2
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21950618_1580873558637473_9205118810191098619_o.jpg?oh=e153652ca23a6549db025a2f86a0a396&oe=5A75FEF2
13 October 2017 00:48
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
räägi veel
12 October 2017 22:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Praadisin ära ja sisi kurigivedelikku peale ja siis uuesti..
Proovida senikaua pliiti kasutada, kuni sellega veel võimalik miskit luua on : )
Proovida senikaua pliiti kasutada, kuni sellega veel võimalik miskit luua on : )
12 October 2017 21:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or it can be made look as Not
MAKE LOVE NOT WAR
MAKE LOVE NOT WAR
12 October 2017 21:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
to bad EU manages to ban DNA testing before i get my public info uploaded,
maybe also say, greatly a lot
maybe also say, greatly a lot
12 October 2017 21:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
if you think so, maybe you not so jew after all..
sure, et in genes there is no worth to define who you are=?
"HORDES: DNA testing potentially can tell us an awful lot. But we’re at only an early stage of this kind of research, and at this point the commercial testing companies can only tell who your mothers’ mother’s mother’s mother is or your father’s father’s father’s father — all the way back. They can’t tell you anything about your mother’s father’s family or any of the other thousands of ancestors. But culture is not passed down through genes — it’s interesting, but it does not define who you are. A lot of us are more interested in cultural traits and Jewish consciousness, including the extent to which descendants of Crypto-Jews tended to marry within the group. The genetic and genealogical research supplies us with a historical plausibility of suggestive Crypto-Jewish practices that may have been passed down. All of these avenues of research complement each other."
sure, et in genes there is no worth to define who you are=?
"HORDES: DNA testing potentially can tell us an awful lot. But we’re at only an early stage of this kind of research, and at this point the commercial testing companies can only tell who your mothers’ mother’s mother’s mother is or your father’s father’s father’s father — all the way back. They can’t tell you anything about your mother’s father’s family or any of the other thousands of ancestors. But culture is not passed down through genes — it’s interesting, but it does not define who you are. A lot of us are more interested in cultural traits and Jewish consciousness, including the extent to which descendants of Crypto-Jews tended to marry within the group. The genetic and genealogical research supplies us with a historical plausibility of suggestive Crypto-Jewish practices that may have been passed down. All of these avenues of research complement each other."
12 October 2017 21:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
JTA: What is a Crypto-Jew?
HORDES: A Crypto-Jew is someone who professed one faith openly and their Jewish faith secretly. After 500 years this cultural remnant spans a broad spectrum, ranging from people with no consciousness and no practices — nothing but a bloodline, a suspicious name and a tendency to contract certain genetic diseases, diseases associated with Jewish populations — to people whose grandmother still lights candles on Friday nights, who still observes the Sabbath on Saturday, who still refrain from eating pork and don’t mix milk and meat at the same meal, people who still circumcise their children and male infants and have done so long before the doctors were coming through New Mexico. …
Technically, a converso refers to a person who underwent a conversion himself/herself, but the term has been used to refer to their descendants as well. A Crypto-Jew, or secret Jew, is someone who practices his/her Judaism secretly while openly professing another religion. "Anusim" is a Hebrew term for people who were forced to convert against their will, while "meshumadim" refer to willing converts. The term "marrano" is more complex, and there are many different histories for the term. The one that makes the most sense to me is a combination of two Hebrew words: "mumar"(convert) and "anús" (compelled one). Marrano means swine and was meant as a pejorative term used by Jews who did not convert to describe Jews who did.
HORDES: A Crypto-Jew is someone who professed one faith openly and their Jewish faith secretly. After 500 years this cultural remnant spans a broad spectrum, ranging from people with no consciousness and no practices — nothing but a bloodline, a suspicious name and a tendency to contract certain genetic diseases, diseases associated with Jewish populations — to people whose grandmother still lights candles on Friday nights, who still observes the Sabbath on Saturday, who still refrain from eating pork and don’t mix milk and meat at the same meal, people who still circumcise their children and male infants and have done so long before the doctors were coming through New Mexico. …
Technically, a converso refers to a person who underwent a conversion himself/herself, but the term has been used to refer to their descendants as well. A Crypto-Jew, or secret Jew, is someone who practices his/her Judaism secretly while openly professing another religion. "Anusim" is a Hebrew term for people who were forced to convert against their will, while "meshumadim" refer to willing converts. The term "marrano" is more complex, and there are many different histories for the term. The one that makes the most sense to me is a combination of two Hebrew words: "mumar"(convert) and "anús" (compelled one). Marrano means swine and was meant as a pejorative term used by Jews who did not convert to describe Jews who did.
12 October 2017 21:52
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
isiklik ,st nagu saadetud, Puutinile ja siis talle see post htkeliselt oli + veel kaudselt ameeriaksse,
kudi see poel mulle endale teamdiseks, seega mis ma siin filsoofeerin sellest
kudi see poel mulle endale teamdiseks, seega mis ma siin filsoofeerin sellest
12 October 2017 21:49
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
see rohkem isiklik oli, mitme asja vahel
Kudi muidu mõeldud ka lihtsaimalt, labasemalt, maiselt, et näe, Puutini emotsonaalsed uuendused
Kudi muidu mõeldud ka lihtsaimalt, labasemalt, maiselt, et näe, Puutini emotsonaalsed uuendused
12 October 2017 21:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ebasellge ja, kudi siia mõtisklemiseks ikka
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213231991131073
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10213231991131073
12 October 2017 21:43
Margus Meigo commented on Sander Silm's post.
ossa
12 October 2017 21:08
Margus Meigo commented on Asso Puidet's post.
On ikka nimed, väga kiitiline :D
12 October 2017 21:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kohe näha, et kristlased pundis
(pisdarad injcluded)
(pisdarad injcluded)
12 October 2017 11:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:. igaksjuhuks ka offtUBE
(pildi albumi cover on Monogaamne)
(pildi albumi cover on Monogaamne)
12 October 2017 11:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP_KKnsei-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP_KKnsei-8
12 October 2017 11:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kitsa, kandilise, st
12 October 2017 11:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aga, et nad neid siis nagu Lasnamäe kandi Uuskasutusest tellisid,
vmsd
v mingi uutmoodi uuskasutus oli, koos teenuste büroo EMT modernse kliendi teenindusega kes Telekommunikatsiooni eri vanudustele (eriti seenioritele, selle or spet. oli) elekterooniliselt uuendatud v tarkvara sees moderne olevaid vanu suuri kaasaegsema disainiga telefone müüs,
kuigi, nüüd tuli meelde, et oli ka kitsa Ericsoni disainiga mustvalge vana taskuarvuti graafikaga telefona,
vmsd
v mingi uutmoodi uuskasutus oli, koos teenuste büroo EMT modernse kliendi teenindusega kes Telekommunikatsiooni eri vanudustele (eriti seenioritele, selle or spet. oli) elekterooniliselt uuendatud v tarkvara sees moderne olevaid vanu suuri kaasaegsema disainiga telefone müüs,
kuigi, nüüd tuli meelde, et oli ka kitsa Ericsoni disainiga mustvalge vana taskuarvuti graafikaga telefona,
12 October 2017 11:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siia lisada ka huvlisi saan kui Sul vaja:
https://chemistryprogram.blogspot.com.ee/2017/10/linux-chemistry-software-windows.html
https://chemistryprogram.blogspot.com.ee/2017/10/linux-chemistry-software-windows.html
https://chemistryprogram.blogspot.com.ee/2017/10/linux-chemistry-software-windows.html
10 October 2017 22:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Mis sõjavägi see muidu on kes alkoholi ja suitsu eip promo"
10 October 2017 22:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Actually this is the article i planned to share, again.. article related to keywords:
" But her work was abruptly shut down by MI5 amid claims “undesirables” such as “Germans, Jews and communists” were arriving in Britain with visas signed by her.
After a chance meeting with its editor, Clare, then aged 27, started work for the Daily Telegraph just three days before the outbreak of .."
// lol, this British part i quite like:
In 2009, she told The Telegraph:
“Someone rushed into the room and said, ‘The Germans are coming’. And they were quite right.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/who-clare-hollingworth-google-doodle-11314889
" But her work was abruptly shut down by MI5 amid claims “undesirables” such as “Germans, Jews and communists” were arriving in Britain with visas signed by her.
After a chance meeting with its editor, Clare, then aged 27, started work for the Daily Telegraph just three days before the outbreak of .."
// lol, this British part i quite like:
In 2009, she told The Telegraph:
“Someone rushed into the room and said, ‘The Germans are coming’. And they were quite right.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/who-clare-hollingworth-google-doodle-11314889
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/who-clare-hollingworth-google-doodle-11314889
10 October 2017 22:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
st algus pole õige sõna, see protsess.
sest midagi poel lõppenud seni kuni poel valmis
sest midagi poel lõppenud seni kuni poel valmis
10 October 2017 22:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Demokraatia:
(kuninga vaatavinkli arvates)
(kuninga vaatavinkli arvates)
10 October 2017 18:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tarmo Kruusimäe Punkari kohta oled Sa nii armas, selle vea suhtes, mida Eesti tegi kaotades VanaduseTeadvuse
10 October 2017 17:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(Inimeste, looduse, JUmala poolne st)
10 October 2017 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Kunagi saab ka Eesti riik, toll ja politsei koos kodanikega piisavalt targaks, et saadakse aru, MIDA tegelikult kinni peetakse ja miks.
Eriti tuleks koheselt lõpetada kurjus kus seened, LSD ja muud smart drugid lahterdatakse "NArkootikumideks" kasutades ära inimeste teadmatust ja propakandat, segades meditsiinilise ja seadusliku termini "narkootikum" (mis on impeeriumite poolt paika pandud).
Suur hulk "narkootikume" mis on seaduse termini järgi sedasi lahterdatud, on tegelikult REAALSED ja pea Ainukesed ravimid mis Aitavad inimestel sõltuvustest üle saada, targemaks ja paremaks, hoolivamaks, korralikuks inimeseks areneda ning oma vaimu, hinge saatana eest kaitsta
lisaks iseenda süva analüüsile
(seaduse terminil ei p0le miskit pistmist reaalsuse ega meditsiiniga, ega ainete kahjulike omadusega)
Muidugi, eks tellitakse muid aineid ka mis listis, neid kes neid tellivad, tuleks ka täiskasvanuna võtta ja lihtsalt kui vaja siis igaksjuhuks listi panna, ning neile saata ainete omaduste käsiraamat riigi kulul koju, kus on kirjas mis aine on milleks ja mis tulemustega eri inimeste tüüpidel, eri aegadel ja kooslustes.
Koos online komuuniga ja tel. numbriga kus muud nõu saavad ja abi kui vaja, noortele.
Aga senikaua kui politseiga tagaaetakse psühedeelseid seeni, on 100% kindel teada, et see riik ei ole ei iseseisev ega teadlik, ja kui isegi on need kahte siis kindlasti samal ajal ei saa ta olla inimeste poolne
Eriti tuleks koheselt lõpetada kurjus kus seened, LSD ja muud smart drugid lahterdatakse "NArkootikumideks" kasutades ära inimeste teadmatust ja propakandat, segades meditsiinilise ja seadusliku termini "narkootikum" (mis on impeeriumite poolt paika pandud).
Suur hulk "narkootikume" mis on seaduse termini järgi sedasi lahterdatud, on tegelikult REAALSED ja pea Ainukesed ravimid mis Aitavad inimestel sõltuvustest üle saada, targemaks ja paremaks, hoolivamaks, korralikuks inimeseks areneda ning oma vaimu, hinge saatana eest kaitsta
lisaks iseenda süva analüüsile
(seaduse terminil ei p0le miskit pistmist reaalsuse ega meditsiiniga, ega ainete kahjulike omadusega)
Muidugi, eks tellitakse muid aineid ka mis listis, neid kes neid tellivad, tuleks ka täiskasvanuna võtta ja lihtsalt kui vaja siis igaksjuhuks listi panna, ning neile saata ainete omaduste käsiraamat riigi kulul koju, kus on kirjas mis aine on milleks ja mis tulemustega eri inimeste tüüpidel, eri aegadel ja kooslustes.
Koos online komuuniga ja tel. numbriga kus muud nõu saavad ja abi kui vaja, noortele.
Aga senikaua kui politseiga tagaaetakse psühedeelseid seeni, on 100% kindel teada, et see riik ei ole ei iseseisev ega teadlik, ja kui isegi on need kahte siis kindlasti samal ajal ei saa ta olla inimeste poolne
10 October 2017 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kolm pühat suurust:
10 October 2017 09:30
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
love your comment bdw, but will not mark it so, for the R0botz : )
10 October 2017 00:05
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
(in loop, to keep Worth, actual worth ... but loop is sinking.. slowly.. )
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/college/arealhero.html
This song made me cry, many times before, is that selfless?
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/college/arealhero.html
This song made me cry, many times before, is that selfless?
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/college/arealhero.html
10 October 2017 00:02
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
can we imagine what happens if aliens land with their block-chain money
or some other earthy fluke that allows some MoneyHacker generate some other magic to make ... whateeevaaa, speculation
but i got hard times on life right now, personal,
will be able to give better answers when get my self out from solution lacking loop
// in another way, if something that i can not mention, works out well, then all has been Godgiven
or some other earthy fluke that allows some MoneyHacker generate some other magic to make ... whateeevaaa, speculation
but i got hard times on life right now, personal,
will be able to give better answers when get my self out from solution lacking loop
// in another way, if something that i can not mention, works out well, then all has been Godgiven
10 October 2017 00:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Enn Risti eks loodame, et kunagi ikka : )
Praegu lihtsalt kodulehe elemendina oli vaja, lisaks nostalgia tundele
Praegu lihtsalt kodulehe elemendina oli vaja, lisaks nostalgia tundele
9 October 2017 21:34
Margus Meigo replied to Anton Järv's comment.
Tubli, et neid alles hoidnud oled!
9 October 2017 21:06
Margus Meigo replied to Anton Järv's comment.
Ostal veel eriti hea kvaliteediga oli,
See väga hea, 1994 ka just mida enim soovisin,
Kui Sul aega, see kunagi skännerisse veel panna, siis oleks eriti tuus, (aga siia postitades FB kvaliteedi teeb väikseks, siis peaks failina saatma, annan koha kuhu kui vaja )
Kuid praegu juba saan selle edasi toiemtada!
See väga hea, 1994 ka just mida enim soovisin,
Kui Sul aega, see kunagi skännerisse veel panna, siis oleks eriti tuus, (aga siia postitades FB kvaliteedi teeb väikseks, siis peaks failina saatma, annan koha kuhu kui vaja )
Kuid praegu juba saan selle edasi toiemtada!
9 October 2017 21:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See muidu ka ilus, kui kellegil on :
http://www.eestipank.ee/sites/default/files/10_2008bu.jpg
http://www.eestipank.ee/sites/default/files/10_2008bu.jpg
http://www.eestipank.ee/sites/default/files/10_2008bu.jpg
9 October 2017 13:42
Margus Meigo replied to Riho Kimmel's comment.
Tänud, neid märkasin ise ka kuid see väga niru kvaliteediga, ja veel mingi muu materiali all
see jälle suts tume ja kulunud http://www.notescollector.eu/image/fotos/est1994500akrnr.png
see jälle suts tume ja kulunud http://www.notescollector.eu/image/fotos/est1994500akrnr.png
http://www.notescollector.eu/image/fotos/est1994500akrnr.png
9 October 2017 13:36
Margus Meigo replied to Anton Järv's comment.
Ega kõikide muude oma, ka üle külje maha ei jookse kui täis hea valguse alt saad saata.
Hea oleks kui üks võte päeva valguses ja teine ilma päevavalguseta sooja lambi valgusel (vanad hõõglambid)
Hea oleks kui üks võte päeva valguses ja teine ilma päevavalguseta sooja lambi valgusel (vanad hõõglambid)
9 October 2017 13:33
Margus Meigo replied to Anton Järv's comment.
Äitah!
(see oleks suur abi, eriti kui veel skännida saad ka sisse, siis korras kvaliteet oleks)
(see oleks suur abi, eriti kui veel skännida saad ka sisse, siis korras kvaliteet oleks)
9 October 2017 13:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja selliseid asju, igast tsaari ja muude omasi, oli terve hunnik meil mängimiseks lapsepõlves... kuhu kõik need küll said..
http://www.coins.ee/rootsi-sveriges-riksbank-10-000-kronor-1958-progressive-proof-pmg-65-epq
HIND: 2990.00 €
http://www.coins.ee/rootsi-sveriges-riksbank-10-000-kronor-1958-progressive-proof-pmg-65-epq
HIND: 2990.00 €
http://www.coins.ee/rootsi-sveriges-riksbank-10-000-kronor-1958-progressive-proof-pmg-65-epq
9 October 2017 13:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid väärtusi südames aitab hoida tõesti, need 200 eurosed kingitusetki:
http://www.coins.ee/eesti-10-krooni-1992-eesti-krooni-taaskehtestamine
http://www.coins.ee/eesti-10-krooni-1992-eesti-krooni-taaskehtestamine
http://www.coins.ee/eesti-10-krooni-1992-eesti-krooni-taaskehtestamine
9 October 2017 13:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Oli plaan iidsel ajal juba kõikidest nendest HD kvaliteet teha, , netis vabakasutuseks.. ja vot, nii need vanad asjad kaovad, kättesaamatuks varsti, kui pidevalt olulise säilitamise oma riigis homsekaela ajame, sest "ohtu ja muret veel pole ju" (tunda, kõigil veel..) ...
(siis kui on, on enamasti tegutseda juba hilja ka , nii mugavalt... )
(siis kui on, on enamasti tegutseda juba hilja ka , nii mugavalt... )
9 October 2017 13:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vaat, pildi kvaliteedi vahel, kohe vahe näha, paberi kvaliteet mustrid jms:
https://www.leftovercurrency.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/500-estonian-krooni-banknote-1991-1997-version-reverse-1.jpg
https://www.leftovercurrency.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/500-estonian-krooni-banknote-1991-1997-version-reverse-1.jpg
https://www.leftovercurrency.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/500-estonian-krooni-banknote-1991-1997-version-reverse-1.jpg
9 October 2017 13:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Firmad on suts julgemad:
http://www.coins.ee/failid/Image/tooted/591ec04d2536b-3328052017001_90.jpeg
http://www.coins.ee/failid/Image/tooted/591ec04d2536b-3328052017001_90.jpeg
http://www.coins.ee/failid/Image/tooted/591ec04d2536b-3328052017001_90.jpeg
9 October 2017 13:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Wikipeedia oma:
Mis nali see on 300x200 pixlit??? ja Siis SEE ka ära pläkerdatud?
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viiesajakroonine_pangat%C3%A4ht#/media/File:EEK-500krooni-rear.jpg
Mis nali see on 300x200 pixlit??? ja Siis SEE ka ära pläkerdatud?
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viiesajakroonine_pangat%C3%A4ht#/media/File:EEK-500krooni-rear.jpg
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viiesajakroonine_pangat%C3%A4ht#/media/File:EEK-500krooni-rear.jpg
9 October 2017 13:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid just, seda rohelist poolt sooviks,
Panga leht mingi haige kiiksu pärast väikese kvaliteediga pannud ja wikipeedia omad on hoopis kasutuskõlbmatud,
kui isegi enam mitte käibel oleva raha koopiaid kardetakse internetti panna, siis on asi suht veider.
http://www.eestipank.ee/sites/default/files/500_91_2.jpg
Panga leht mingi haige kiiksu pärast väikese kvaliteediga pannud ja wikipeedia omad on hoopis kasutuskõlbmatud,
kui isegi enam mitte käibel oleva raha koopiaid kardetakse internetti panna, siis on asi suht veider.
http://www.eestipank.ee/sites/default/files/500_91_2.jpg
http://www.eestipank.ee/sites/default/files/500_91_2.jpg
9 October 2017 13:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mu enda omad pandi piizdu seeaeg kui ise bitcoini konverentsi korraldamisele läksin enne seda kui bitcoin tuntud oli.., milline iroonia.
Eri aasta arvude omad, päris hea pakk läks kaotsi.
MUlje jäeti nagu oleksid mingid metallivargad olnud, puhastatud juhtmeid ja juhtmeotsi.. mitmetunni töö mille väärtus alla 4 ja sendi kindlasti. Ükski kodutu ei viitsiks sellise jamaga tegeleda eriti veel võõras majas.
Isegi müürlaste 50 Kroonine oli olemas ...
Eri aasta arvude omad, päris hea pakk läks kaotsi.
MUlje jäeti nagu oleksid mingid metallivargad olnud, puhastatud juhtmeid ja juhtmeotsi.. mitmetunni töö mille väärtus alla 4 ja sendi kindlasti. Ükski kodutu ei viitsiks sellise jamaga tegeleda eriti veel võõras majas.
Isegi müürlaste 50 Kroonine oli olemas ...
9 October 2017 13:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Several concentration camp inmates have certified the fairness of Münch. Three of them are often quoted. The Hungarian medical science professor Geza Mansfeld was regarded as the most important among them. He praised Münch, as he had prevented his selection for the gas chambers and who had given him drugs because Mansfeld suffered from a stomach ulcer. In return Münch obtained a training in Serology, Bacteriology and Chemistry. Mansfeld was one of the internationally famous "capacities" in these fields and he was meant to provide his knowledge to the Hygienics Institute for free
8 October 2017 14:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" In 1998, Münch made derogative statements about Roma and Sinti on the French radio programme France-Inter, where he said that the Roma were "pathetic" and the gas chambers would have been the only solution for them. Münch was accused of "incitement of racial hatred". He did not take part in the court hearing. A medical expert opinion had certified him "psychologically disturbed". The acquittal was based on this expert opinion. The Agence France-Presse (AFP) reported on 7 May 2001 that the Paris appeal court had annulled the June 2000 acquittal.
In May 2001, Münch was convicted in Paris for "incitement of racial hatred" and "belittlement of crimes against humanity". The prosecutor demanded not the imprisonment of Münch but his release on license. Münch was found guilty, but due to his old age and his mental health, the Paris appeal court decided that the 89-year-old Münch should not serve out the sentence. As in the previous proceedings, Münch did not attend the court hearings.
In September 2001, the French Radio rebroadcast the 1998 interview with Münch. Lawyers Without Borders, the International League against Racism and Anti-Semitism and the Union of Jewish Students in France lodged complaints. In 2002, all of the accused responsible staff members of the public-law broadcasting institution Radio France were acquitted of the accusation of assistance in incitement to race hatred. The reasoning of the court decision reads that all radio listeners would have understood that Münch's statements about Sinti and Roma and about NS-extermination camps were taken from the Nazi-propaganda
In May 2001, Münch was convicted in Paris for "incitement of racial hatred" and "belittlement of crimes against humanity". The prosecutor demanded not the imprisonment of Münch but his release on license. Münch was found guilty, but due to his old age and his mental health, the Paris appeal court decided that the 89-year-old Münch should not serve out the sentence. As in the previous proceedings, Münch did not attend the court hearings.
In September 2001, the French Radio rebroadcast the 1998 interview with Münch. Lawyers Without Borders, the International League against Racism and Anti-Semitism and the Union of Jewish Students in France lodged complaints. In 2002, all of the accused responsible staff members of the public-law broadcasting institution Radio France were acquitted of the accusation of assistance in incitement to race hatred. The reasoning of the court decision reads that all radio listeners would have understood that Münch's statements about Sinti and Roma and about NS-extermination camps were taken from the Nazi-propaganda
8 October 2017 14:25
Margus Meigo commented on Mari-Ann Meigo Fonseca's post.
Päris tuntud mees see Münch ju...
"He found this abhorrent and refused to take part; this was confirmed by witnesses' testimony at his trial.[citation needed] The book on SS physicians of Auschwitz by Robert Jay Lifton (1986) mentions Münch as the only physician whose commitment to the Hippocratic oath proved stronger than that to the SS.
Hans Wilhelm Münch (14 May 1911 – c. 2001) was a German Nazi Party member who worked as an SS physician during World War II at the Auschwitz concentration camp from 1943 to 1945 in Nazi–occupied Poland.
Münch was nicknamed The Good Man of Auschwitz for his refusal to assist in the mass murders there. He developed many elaborate ruses to keep inmates alive. He was the only person acquitted of war crimes at the 1947 Auschwitz trials in Kraków, where many inmates testified in his favour. After the war and the trial, he returned to Germany and worked as a practicing physician in Roßhaupten in Bavaria. While suffering from Alzheimer's in old age, he made several public remarks that appeared to support Nazi ideology, and was tried for inciting racial hatred and similar charges. Münch was never sentenced, as all courts ruled that he was not of sound mind. He died in 2001."
While Münch did conduct human experiments, these were often elaborate farces intended to protect inmates, as experiment subjects who were no longer useful were usually killed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_M%C3%BCnch
Münch appeared in the documentary film Die letzten Tage, which was released in 1999 in the US as The Last Days and in Germany in March 2000
______________________
Münch has also commented on Holocaust denial. During an interview Münch, asked about the negationist claim that Auschwitz was a hoax, wearily responded:
When someone says that Auschwitz is a lie, that it is a hoax, I feel hesitation to say much to him. I say, the facts are so firmly determined, that one cannot have any doubt at all, and I stop talking to that person because there is no use. One knows that anyone who clings to such things, which are published somewhere, is a malevolent person who has some personal interest to want to bury in silence things that cannot be buried in silence.
— Münch interviewed by the German filmmaker Bernhard Frankfurter.
"He found this abhorrent and refused to take part; this was confirmed by witnesses' testimony at his trial.[citation needed] The book on SS physicians of Auschwitz by Robert Jay Lifton (1986) mentions Münch as the only physician whose commitment to the Hippocratic oath proved stronger than that to the SS.
Hans Wilhelm Münch (14 May 1911 – c. 2001) was a German Nazi Party member who worked as an SS physician during World War II at the Auschwitz concentration camp from 1943 to 1945 in Nazi–occupied Poland.
Münch was nicknamed The Good Man of Auschwitz for his refusal to assist in the mass murders there. He developed many elaborate ruses to keep inmates alive. He was the only person acquitted of war crimes at the 1947 Auschwitz trials in Kraków, where many inmates testified in his favour. After the war and the trial, he returned to Germany and worked as a practicing physician in Roßhaupten in Bavaria. While suffering from Alzheimer's in old age, he made several public remarks that appeared to support Nazi ideology, and was tried for inciting racial hatred and similar charges. Münch was never sentenced, as all courts ruled that he was not of sound mind. He died in 2001."
While Münch did conduct human experiments, these were often elaborate farces intended to protect inmates, as experiment subjects who were no longer useful were usually killed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_M%C3%BCnch
Münch appeared in the documentary film Die letzten Tage, which was released in 1999 in the US as The Last Days and in Germany in March 2000
______________________
Münch has also commented on Holocaust denial. During an interview Münch, asked about the negationist claim that Auschwitz was a hoax, wearily responded:
When someone says that Auschwitz is a lie, that it is a hoax, I feel hesitation to say much to him. I say, the facts are so firmly determined, that one cannot have any doubt at all, and I stop talking to that person because there is no use. One knows that anyone who clings to such things, which are published somewhere, is a malevolent person who has some personal interest to want to bury in silence things that cannot be buried in silence.
— Münch interviewed by the German filmmaker Bernhard Frankfurter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_M%C3%BCnch
8 October 2017 14:25
Margus Meigo commented on Mari-Ann Meigo Fonseca's post.
In truth, if people would only realize, how much most of us, are in experiment
and just "for usage", parts
and just "for usage", parts
8 October 2017 14:06
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Kaasik's photo.
Hea disain
8 October 2017 12:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Muidugi jutt on väga isekas.. selles hüpnoosis, sisestuses, et "mina Mina Mina..."
8 October 2017 12:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see mürgine elupuu on ka mingi roomlastelt tulnud võõrliik
selle kohta vanarahvas räägib, et pidi elu ja suhted rikkuma kui majaette istutada..
selle kohta vanarahvas räägib, et pidi elu ja suhted rikkuma kui majaette istutada..
8 October 2017 12:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
heaküll, see polnud küll kõige õigem lause, kuid kuidas seda pool vaimset, ajalooliselt suurt olulist teemat ikka saaks veel paremini lühidalt väljendada.. mõtlen veel
8 October 2017 12:05
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Kaasik's post.
Kurb selles, et mahavõetud puudega, on kadunud ka teatud keskonnad, mis ei kasva sama kiiresti tagasi kui rohujuure tasand..
Kahtlus on, et kuna teada saadi, et puude olemasoluga meie iseseisvus ja vaimsus püsib, siis inimasulate ligidalt ja mujalt kust saab raha ahnust kilbina kasutades, likvideerivad kultuuride allutajad vaikselt meie enda lubatu piires kõike niipalju kui saavad ja siis analüüsivad, kas on südamest hullemaks läinud
me 800+ aastat vana (Kädva küla seltsimaja) küla 16 iidset põlispuud võeti maha tee laiendamisega (kohas kus sõidab 7 autot päevas, ja need ka kohalikud, aga oli vaja ikka nii, et kolm autot mööda pääseks üksteisest... ja veel, et puudest teiseltpoolt teed, oli põllumaa kus polnud puid...)
lisaks pereisa suur eluaegne metsamees, kes teab ümberkautsetest RMK rüüstamistest nii mõndagi, mismoodi meelega nurgapuud maha võetakse mis tuule eest kaitsevad, siis oodatakse tuult... ja siis see keskel lõhub metsa kuna kaitsepuud maas ja siis võetakse lageraie luba, et metsa korrastada, järgi jäätakse songermaa...
riigimetsa aladelt tal alltöödtehes, ei lubatud isegi oksi kokku korjata, kästi kõik risu kuhu iganes jätta, küll masin suudab üle sõita...
...
ja siis veel pannakse inimeste rohelise meele pettuseks neid mürgi ilu elu puid ohtralt igale poole... nu et siis aastaläbi ilus oleks..
Kahtlus on, et kuna teada saadi, et puude olemasoluga meie iseseisvus ja vaimsus püsib, siis inimasulate ligidalt ja mujalt kust saab raha ahnust kilbina kasutades, likvideerivad kultuuride allutajad vaikselt meie enda lubatu piires kõike niipalju kui saavad ja siis analüüsivad, kas on südamest hullemaks läinud
me 800+ aastat vana (Kädva küla seltsimaja) küla 16 iidset põlispuud võeti maha tee laiendamisega (kohas kus sõidab 7 autot päevas, ja need ka kohalikud, aga oli vaja ikka nii, et kolm autot mööda pääseks üksteisest... ja veel, et puudest teiseltpoolt teed, oli põllumaa kus polnud puid...)
lisaks pereisa suur eluaegne metsamees, kes teab ümberkautsetest RMK rüüstamistest nii mõndagi, mismoodi meelega nurgapuud maha võetakse mis tuule eest kaitsevad, siis oodatakse tuult... ja siis see keskel lõhub metsa kuna kaitsepuud maas ja siis võetakse lageraie luba, et metsa korrastada, järgi jäätakse songermaa...
riigimetsa aladelt tal alltöödtehes, ei lubatud isegi oksi kokku korjata, kästi kõik risu kuhu iganes jätta, küll masin suudab üle sõita...
...
ja siis veel pannakse inimeste rohelise meele pettuseks neid mürgi ilu elu puid ohtralt igale poole... nu et siis aastaläbi ilus oleks..
8 October 2017 12:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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8 October 2017 11:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.ht.ut.ee/et/haridusuuenduskeskus/projektid
http://www.curriculum.ut.ee/et
Teema “Keskkond ja jätkusuutlik areng” ja teiste läbivate teemade rakendamine üldhariduses (2017)
Tellija: Haridus- ja Teadusministeerium
Autorid: Autorid: Katri Lamesoo, Angela Ader, Silver Sillak, Helle Kont, Ragnar Pärtelsohn, Kaia Korman
http://www.ht.ut.ee/sites/default/files/pedagogicum/kkja_raport_27_03_17.pdf
Projekti käigus analüüsiti erinevate OECD riikide (Austraalia, Inglismaa, Taani, Rootsi, Holland, Šotimaa) hindamis- ja tagasisidestamissüsteeme, sh õppimist toetava hindamise rakendamist. Lisaks süsteemi kirjeldusele vaadeldi ka selle toimimismehhanisme (sh tugimaterjalid, võrgustikud, õpetajakoolitus). Projekti tulemusena valmis võrdlev analüüs koos näidete koguga ning ettepanekud Eesti hindamis- ja tagasisidestamissüsteemi edasiarendamiseks.
Tellija: Haridus- ja Teadusministeerium
Projektimeeskond: Maria Jürimäe, Miia Rannikmäe, Anu Raudsepp, Ulla Kamp, Regina Herodes, Regina Soobard, Katrin Vaino, Tormi Kotkas, Ülle Luisk.
http://www.ht.ut.ee/sites/default/files/www_ut/koondaruanne_2016.pdf
Projekti raames seirati valikkursuste pakkumist gümnaasiumides, et saada ülevaadet Eesti koolides pakutavate valikainete pakkumise põhimõtetest, valikute kujunemise teguritest ja koolide vajadustest valikute pakkumisel.
Tellija: Haridus- ja Teadusministeerium
Projektimeeskond: Katri Lamesoo, Angela Ader
http://www.ht.ut.ee/sites/default/files/ht/valikainete_raport_2016_lamesoo_ader.pdf
Projekti teema on lasteaia õppeprotsessi kvaliteet, eesmärk on välja töötada lasteaia õppe- ja kasvatustegevuse kvaliteedi hindamismudel -- tööriist, mis aitaks lasteaedadel õppe kvaliteeti arendada ja sellesse ka vanemaid kaasata.
Juhtpartner: Eesti Alushariduse Juhtide Ühendus, Eestist osalevad 18 lasteaia juhid, rahvusvahelised partnerid on Lätist, Horvaatiast, Kreekast ja Portugalist.
Projektimeeskond: Maria Jürimäe, Airi Niilo, Birgit Pung, Jessica Vainaru
Rahastaja: Erasmus+
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Tagasisidestamise kaardistamine Tartu koolides
Haridusuuenduskeskuse spetsialistid koos magistriõppe tudengitega kaardistavad hindamise ja tagasisidega seonduvat olukorda algklassides, eelkõige I klassis, kus on alates 2016/2017. õppeaastast mindud üle mittenumbrilisele tagasisidestamisele. Kogutud info alusel on kavas koostada küsimustik ning uurida õpetajate ja lapsevanemate rahulolu antava tagasisidega.
Kontaktisik: Maria Jürimäe
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Liitklassiõpetajate õpiring
Õpiring alustas 2016. aasta sügisel seminariga, kus tegi ettekande Eesti üks parimaid liitklassi pedagoogika tundjaid Eha Jakobson. 2017. aastal õpiringi tegevus jätkub, eesmärk on koos luua lõimitud õppevara, mis sobiks just liitklassis õpetamiseks.
Kontaktisik: Maria Jürimäe
http://www.curriculum.ut.ee/et
Teema “Keskkond ja jätkusuutlik areng” ja teiste läbivate teemade rakendamine üldhariduses (2017)
Tellija: Haridus- ja Teadusministeerium
Autorid: Autorid: Katri Lamesoo, Angela Ader, Silver Sillak, Helle Kont, Ragnar Pärtelsohn, Kaia Korman
http://www.ht.ut.ee/sites/default/files/pedagogicum/kkja_raport_27_03_17.pdf
Projekti käigus analüüsiti erinevate OECD riikide (Austraalia, Inglismaa, Taani, Rootsi, Holland, Šotimaa) hindamis- ja tagasisidestamissüsteeme, sh õppimist toetava hindamise rakendamist. Lisaks süsteemi kirjeldusele vaadeldi ka selle toimimismehhanisme (sh tugimaterjalid, võrgustikud, õpetajakoolitus). Projekti tulemusena valmis võrdlev analüüs koos näidete koguga ning ettepanekud Eesti hindamis- ja tagasisidestamissüsteemi edasiarendamiseks.
Tellija: Haridus- ja Teadusministeerium
Projektimeeskond: Maria Jürimäe, Miia Rannikmäe, Anu Raudsepp, Ulla Kamp, Regina Herodes, Regina Soobard, Katrin Vaino, Tormi Kotkas, Ülle Luisk.
http://www.ht.ut.ee/sites/default/files/www_ut/koondaruanne_2016.pdf
Projekti raames seirati valikkursuste pakkumist gümnaasiumides, et saada ülevaadet Eesti koolides pakutavate valikainete pakkumise põhimõtetest, valikute kujunemise teguritest ja koolide vajadustest valikute pakkumisel.
Tellija: Haridus- ja Teadusministeerium
Projektimeeskond: Katri Lamesoo, Angela Ader
http://www.ht.ut.ee/sites/default/files/ht/valikainete_raport_2016_lamesoo_ader.pdf
Projekti teema on lasteaia õppeprotsessi kvaliteet, eesmärk on välja töötada lasteaia õppe- ja kasvatustegevuse kvaliteedi hindamismudel -- tööriist, mis aitaks lasteaedadel õppe kvaliteeti arendada ja sellesse ka vanemaid kaasata.
Juhtpartner: Eesti Alushariduse Juhtide Ühendus, Eestist osalevad 18 lasteaia juhid, rahvusvahelised partnerid on Lätist, Horvaatiast, Kreekast ja Portugalist.
Projektimeeskond: Maria Jürimäe, Airi Niilo, Birgit Pung, Jessica Vainaru
Rahastaja: Erasmus+
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Tagasisidestamise kaardistamine Tartu koolides
Haridusuuenduskeskuse spetsialistid koos magistriõppe tudengitega kaardistavad hindamise ja tagasisidega seonduvat olukorda algklassides, eelkõige I klassis, kus on alates 2016/2017. õppeaastast mindud üle mittenumbrilisele tagasisidestamisele. Kogutud info alusel on kavas koostada küsimustik ning uurida õpetajate ja lapsevanemate rahulolu antava tagasisidega.
Kontaktisik: Maria Jürimäe
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Liitklassiõpetajate õpiring
Õpiring alustas 2016. aasta sügisel seminariga, kus tegi ettekande Eesti üks parimaid liitklassi pedagoogika tundjaid Eha Jakobson. 2017. aastal õpiringi tegevus jätkub, eesmärk on koos luua lõimitud õppevara, mis sobiks just liitklassis õpetamiseks.
Kontaktisik: Maria Jürimäe
http://www.ht.ut.ee/et/haridusuuenduskeskus/projektid
8 October 2017 11:53
Margus Meigo commented on Helle Kaasik's post.
Vau kui lahe, lihtne ja geniaalne weebileht tööde tegemiseks/hankimiseks, 5+
8 October 2017 11:49
Margus Meigo replied to Nata Zazu's comment.
Muidugi tasub neid kiir kuivatada ja siis süüa,
keetma ma ei hakkaks... jms üle pingutama.
Tegu ikkagi Väga maitsva seenega, terve korvi sõin järjest nädalaga ära, tegelikult küll mitu korvi..
Siis saime veelkord tõestust, et kui võimas on nõukodude ja demokraatia liit, lipsumeeste ja rooma võimu liit... kes suutnud tavarahva teadvusest need seened ära keelata, ilma igasuguse seaduseta, lihtsalt sajandeid pika järjepideva sunniviisilise väär õpetustega, hirmutamise ja tõese informatsiooni peitmisega
keetma ma ei hakkaks... jms üle pingutama.
Tegu ikkagi Väga maitsva seenega, terve korvi sõin järjest nädalaga ära, tegelikult küll mitu korvi..
Siis saime veelkord tõestust, et kui võimas on nõukodude ja demokraatia liit, lipsumeeste ja rooma võimu liit... kes suutnud tavarahva teadvusest need seened ära keelata, ilma igasuguse seaduseta, lihtsalt sajandeid pika järjepideva sunniviisilise väär õpetustega, hirmutamise ja tõese informatsiooni peitmisega
8 October 2017 11:46
Margus Meigo replied to Nata Zazu's comment.
Kärbseseened on siiani ühed maitsvamad seened mida kunagi söönud olen.
Ja kui rääkida veel vaimsest kasust, reisidest, siis ka need tasemed pole kergesti ületatavad.
Välismaal kutsutakse seda seent "stargate" meil "tee peidetud saladuste juurde"
(sinised on Tarkusekivi ehk siis see philosopher stone. Need teadmised tuleb liita, et teadmatude saladuste hulk oleks vastavas tasakaalus tarkustega mida sinine seen jagab )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY
Ja kui rääkida veel vaimsest kasust, reisidest, siis ka need tasemed pole kergesti ületatavad.
Välismaal kutsutakse seda seent "stargate" meil "tee peidetud saladuste juurde"
(sinised on Tarkusekivi ehk siis see philosopher stone. Need teadmised tuleb liita, et teadmatude saladuste hulk oleks vastavas tasakaalus tarkustega mida sinine seen jagab )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY
8 October 2017 11:42
Margus Meigo commented on Helle Kaasik's post.
See on mitmeaasta tuhandene VÄGA tõsisel tasemel planeeritud tegevus planeedi inimesed hoida eemal nendest hinge-meelte loodus-tehnoloogiatest piisavalt kaua, et meie käitumised ja mõtlemised saaksid võõrdunud pöördumatul tasemel enne kui avastame, et saame Loojaga ja elu vajadustega ise otse ühenduses olla.
8 October 2017 11:39
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Kaasik's post.
Puhka Eestis : )))
Ta kuulab mõtlikult, ma eeldan, et ei peaks lipsumehi askeldamas vaatamas... kujutab suurt salu,. jõge...metsaala... sauna ja oma tiiki ette...
rahulikult.
Mul paps kunagi ostis selleks endale tumeda klaasiga prillid, kui vaja sedasi puhata on
mõelda, st
Ta kuulab mõtlikult, ma eeldan, et ei peaks lipsumehi askeldamas vaatamas... kujutab suurt salu,. jõge...metsaala... sauna ja oma tiiki ette...
rahulikult.
Mul paps kunagi ostis selleks endale tumeda klaasiga prillid, kui vaja sedasi puhata on
mõelda, st
8 October 2017 11:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
@ Helle Kaasik, mis Sa arvad keda ma meeldiva üllatusena kohtasin arutlemaks teemadel kas füüsika/atmosfäärifüüsika süvatasanditel on ka näha mõnda vaimu või unemaailma - võimalikudel muudel sagedustel/sügavustel/peensustes asuvaid paraleelsete ilmade tõestusi : ))
8 October 2017 11:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nüüdisaegne õpikäsitus
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1puq_HZ29UC8gvBpCcreo_bAzS1jFImJcgnwb9OLMK84/edit#slide=id.p7
https://www.pedagogicum.ut.ee/sites/default/files/www_ut/nuudisaegne_opikasitus_margus_pedaste.pdf
Mida tahame nüüdisajal saavutada, milleni peab õppimine viima?
Mis asi on õppimine, nüüdisajal?
Kuidas ja mida nüüdisajal õppida?
Lahendamist vajav probleemistik
Nüüdisaegse õpikäsituse esialgne mudel
Mille kaudu hinnata, kuivõrd nüüdisaegne on õpikäsitus?
Rakendused õpikäsituse nüüdisaegsuse toetamiseks
Margus Pedaste, Anni Tamm, Äli Leijen, Anzori Barkalaja,
Martin Tiidelepp, Maria Jürimäe, Katri Lamesoo, Angela Ader,
Triin Peitel, Merlin Juur, Maris Pärt...
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1puq_HZ29UC8gvBpCcreo_bAzS1jFImJcgnwb9OLMK84/edit#slide=id.p7
https://www.pedagogicum.ut.ee/sites/default/files/www_ut/nuudisaegne_opikasitus_margus_pedaste.pdf
Mida tahame nüüdisajal saavutada, milleni peab õppimine viima?
Mis asi on õppimine, nüüdisajal?
Kuidas ja mida nüüdisajal õppida?
Lahendamist vajav probleemistik
Nüüdisaegse õpikäsituse esialgne mudel
Mille kaudu hinnata, kuivõrd nüüdisaegne on õpikäsitus?
Rakendused õpikäsituse nüüdisaegsuse toetamiseks
Margus Pedaste, Anni Tamm, Äli Leijen, Anzori Barkalaja,
Martin Tiidelepp, Maria Jürimäe, Katri Lamesoo, Angela Ader,
Triin Peitel, Merlin Juur, Maris Pärt...
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1puq_HZ29UC8gvBpCcreo_bAzS1jFImJcgnwb9OLMK84/edit#slide=id.p7
8 October 2017 11:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eitse olulist aspekti õppimise nüüdisaegses käsituses on
õppija enesejuhtimine,
koostöö,
emotsionaalne rahulolu,
sisemine motivatsioon,
toimetulek muutustega,
avatus,
refleksioon.
http://www.ht.ut.ee/et/haridusuuenduskeskus/nuudisaegne-opikasitus
õppija enesejuhtimine,
koostöö,
emotsionaalne rahulolu,
sisemine motivatsioon,
toimetulek muutustega,
avatus,
refleksioon.
http://www.ht.ut.ee/et/haridusuuenduskeskus/nuudisaegne-opikasitus
http://www.ht.ut.ee/et/haridusuuenduskeskus/nuudisaegne-opikasitus
8 October 2017 11:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Toetame nüüdisaegse õpikäsituse rakendumist Eesti koolides:
nõustame õpetajaid ja koolijuhte, korraldame mõttekodasid, teemapäevi, koolitusi, konverentse;
kogume ja levitame partnerkoolides välja töötatud uuenduslikke metoodilisi lähenemisviise;
uurime ja süstematiseerime koolide parimat praktikat;
tutvustame koolidele Tartu Ülikoolis, Eestis ja mujal maailmas välja töötatud uuenduslike õppe- ja töömeetodeid ning haridusuuringute tulemusi;
vahendame koolide vajadusi õpetajahariduse täiustamiseks Tartu Ülikoolis.
Haridusuuenduskeskuse ruumid avati Vanas Anatoomikumis 22. aprillil 2014.
http://www.ht.ut.ee/et/haridusuuenduskeskus
nõustame õpetajaid ja koolijuhte, korraldame mõttekodasid, teemapäevi, koolitusi, konverentse;
kogume ja levitame partnerkoolides välja töötatud uuenduslikke metoodilisi lähenemisviise;
uurime ja süstematiseerime koolide parimat praktikat;
tutvustame koolidele Tartu Ülikoolis, Eestis ja mujal maailmas välja töötatud uuenduslike õppe- ja töömeetodeid ning haridusuuringute tulemusi;
vahendame koolide vajadusi õpetajahariduse täiustamiseks Tartu Ülikoolis.
Haridusuuenduskeskuse ruumid avati Vanas Anatoomikumis 22. aprillil 2014.
http://www.ht.ut.ee/et/haridusuuenduskeskus
http://www.ht.ut.ee/et/haridusuuenduskeskus
8 October 2017 11:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Haridusuuenduskeskus
toetab muutunud õpikäsituse rakendumist Eesti koolides – nõustame koole, korraldame mõttekodasid, teemapäevi, koolitusi, konverentse
kogub, süstematiseerib ja levitab koolide parimat praktikat õpetajalt õpetajale
tutvustab haridusuuringute tulemusi kogu maailmast ning ülikoolis välja töötatud uuenduslikke õppe- ja töötmeetodeid Eesti koolidele
vahendab koolide vajadusi õpetajahariduse täiustamiseks Tartu Ülikoolis
koordineerib Tartu Ülikooli kui õpetajahariduse kompetentsikeskuse tegevust
https://www.pedagogicum.ut.ee/et/haridusuuenduskeskus
toetab muutunud õpikäsituse rakendumist Eesti koolides – nõustame koole, korraldame mõttekodasid, teemapäevi, koolitusi, konverentse
kogub, süstematiseerib ja levitab koolide parimat praktikat õpetajalt õpetajale
tutvustab haridusuuringute tulemusi kogu maailmast ning ülikoolis välja töötatud uuenduslikke õppe- ja töötmeetodeid Eesti koolidele
vahendab koolide vajadusi õpetajahariduse täiustamiseks Tartu Ülikoolis
koordineerib Tartu Ülikooli kui õpetajahariduse kompetentsikeskuse tegevust
https://www.pedagogicum.ut.ee/et/haridusuuenduskeskus
https://www.pedagogicum.ut.ee/et/haridusuuenduskeskus
8 October 2017 11:11
Margus Meigo replied to Kaja Oras's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Nendel kes teevad ei olegi plaanis, ju MEIE; Kodumaad, Eestit kestmas hoida...4 October 2017 12:40
Margus Meigo replied to Ats Nõmm's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
kui on tõendid, siis LOOTUSKI, et KUI midagi paremaks läheb, et SIIS saab neid kasutada, aga kui ise nii marulaisad ja totud laseme teineteisel olla, et isegi tõendeid ei viitsi koguda, isegi seda usku ja viitsimist, hoolimist ei ole,... siis on ikka kurvasti4 October 2017 12:40
Margus Meigo replied to Ats Nõmm's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Ma ammu rääkisin, et nende krinimaalidest peaks pilte tegema ja nimesi üle eesti koguma,
ka neid kes neid tööle võttis pärismetsameeste asemele,
Küll kunagi aeg tuleb.. siis hea, kui kõik käepärast on.. pärast aja nagu tiku tulega neid tõendeid taga..4 October 2017 12:39
Margus Meigo replied to Ats Nõmm's comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Õige!4 October 2017 12:37
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
meilid mida koppisin on üks näide arvutispetside ja hacktivistide gruppidest kes alukorra osas aastaid juba meelestatud on olnud
4 October 2017 12:34
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Catalonia on lihtsalt üks teema, juhuslik tõestus, et jälle ta ei tea millest räägib, (jättes mulje, et nagu see mingi ÜLLATUS, et Kreml asjasse seotud on, nagu nad ei teaks, et seda pesa aasta kümneid sünnitatud, eriti aktiivselt viimased aastad)
mis iganes teemat nad puudutanud on, President, Isamaliit, Naised, Väärtused, Loodus.. alati räägib ta selliselt, et kui ei teaks ,siis oleks VEENDUNUD, et see 100% bolševikkude , vaenuõhutajate, meelte infratreelijate kanal meie kultuuri ja kodumaa intellektuaalseks ja füüsiliseks likvideerimiseks
mis iganes teemat nad puudutanud on, President, Isamaliit, Naised, Väärtused, Loodus.. alati räägib ta selliselt, et kui ei teaks ,siis oleks VEENDUNUD, et see 100% bolševikkude , vaenuõhutajate, meelte infratreelijate kanal meie kultuuri ja kodumaa intellektuaalseks ja füüsiliseks likvideerimiseks
4 October 2017 12:33
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Et ühesõnaga, tema räägib NAGU oleks teadja, Teadjate kanalis, Teadjate saates, Teadja kuvandiga, VÄGA ebahead moodi
mis on palju suurem kahju, kui mitmed muud agendid poliitikas ja äris, sest ta otseselt mõjutab suurt hulka inimesi, kes ennast usuvad teadjad ja mõtlejad olema,
sest nad mõtlevad: Kui see mees oleks vale siis teda ju ei lastaks aasta aasta järgi seda lugu rääkima... küll ikka poolenistigi nii on...
aga kui 100% jama aetaks,e siis poolt uskuma jäädes oled juba petta saanud päris korralikult,
Rääkimata faktist, et pahandus peitub detailides
mis on palju suurem kahju, kui mitmed muud agendid poliitikas ja äris, sest ta otseselt mõjutab suurt hulka inimesi, kes ennast usuvad teadjad ja mõtlejad olema,
sest nad mõtlevad: Kui see mees oleks vale siis teda ju ei lastaks aasta aasta järgi seda lugu rääkima... küll ikka poolenistigi nii on...
aga kui 100% jama aetaks,e siis poolt uskuma jäädes oled juba petta saanud päris korralikult,
Rääkimata faktist, et pahandus peitub detailides
4 October 2017 12:30
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
ükskõik mis ajal olen seda tegelast kuulanud, aastaid tagasi ajati, ajab juba 10 ndaks minutiks nii marru, vaat et rohkem veel kui Tallinna TV demagoogia, planeeritud manipulatsioonid psüholoogiaga, ... aga TV puhul see imetlusväärne või andeksantav isegi,
aga raadios, on ju KUVAD midagi muud mille sees nad eriti kahjulikku tööd teevad.
See umbes nagu Luteri usk ja Kristlikud alustalad, mida juudivihkajast Martin Luter likvideerima hakkas, oskuslikult, nii, et sajad milloinid inimesed, on täiesti Vaimsel tasandil meie endi vastu pööratud,
kuna tema rääkis USU kanalis, siis tema kahjud on ikka ASTMETES suuremad kui see mida arvatakse, et Natsid oma propagandaga tegid, ega natsid poleks saanud tehagi kui Luther luciferi kehastus oma tööd poleks teinud.
Natside soov oli vähemalt aus
aga raadios, on ju KUVAD midagi muud mille sees nad eriti kahjulikku tööd teevad.
See umbes nagu Luteri usk ja Kristlikud alustalad, mida juudivihkajast Martin Luter likvideerima hakkas, oskuslikult, nii, et sajad milloinid inimesed, on täiesti Vaimsel tasandil meie endi vastu pööratud,
kuna tema rääkis USU kanalis, siis tema kahjud on ikka ASTMETES suuremad kui see mida arvatakse, et Natsid oma propagandaga tegid, ega natsid poleks saanud tehagi kui Luther luciferi kehastus oma tööd poleks teinud.
Natside soov oli vähemalt aus
4 October 2017 12:28
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Et Eesti riigis lubatakse Sellistel ilatseda "mõtlevate inimeste" peakanalis, neil kes pole riigi ega aususe, ega eetika poolsed,
taolises formaadis nagu nad oleks mingid meedia olukorra reaalsed Eestimeelsed spetsid, ütlevad rõvedusi, lollusi, riigivastast demagoogiat ja ilkumist, ilma, et neid keegi oma sõnade pärast välja kutsuks.
Kuid küll see pull lõppeb ammu plaanid olemas, kuidas nende oma sõnadega neid korrale kutsuda, vahendid veel ainult .. need veel ehk tulemas varem või hiljem, aga nii see jääda ei saa
taolises formaadis nagu nad oleks mingid meedia olukorra reaalsed Eestimeelsed spetsid, ütlevad rõvedusi, lollusi, riigivastast demagoogiat ja ilkumist, ilma, et neid keegi oma sõnade pärast välja kutsuks.
Kuid küll see pull lõppeb ammu plaanid olemas, kuidas nende oma sõnadega neid korrale kutsuda, vahendid veel ainult .. need veel ehk tulemas varem või hiljem, aga nii see jääda ei saa
4 October 2017 12:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Guardian
"After months of wrangling, threats and horse trading, the incumbent Catalan president Artur Mas failed on Sunday to get the backing of the radical CUP, plunging the region into political uncertainty.
Without the CUP, Mas does not have a majority and on 10 January he is legally bound to call new regional elections in March.
The leftwing and secessionist CUP (Popular Unity Candidacy) had come under intense pressure to back Mas, who over the past three years has emerged as the key figure in the independence movement.
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After the success of Podem, the Catalan version of Podemos, in last month’s general election, the March election could produce a regional government that is radically different from any that has gone before. Podem and the CUP are broadly in agreement on social issues and, with Podem in favour of a referendum on Catalan sovereignty, the two could emerge as the strongest political forces.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/03/catalonia-uncertainty-left-wing-cup-rejects-mas
"After months of wrangling, threats and horse trading, the incumbent Catalan president Artur Mas failed on Sunday to get the backing of the radical CUP, plunging the region into political uncertainty.
Without the CUP, Mas does not have a majority and on 10 January he is legally bound to call new regional elections in March.
The leftwing and secessionist CUP (Popular Unity Candidacy) had come under intense pressure to back Mas, who over the past three years has emerged as the key figure in the independence movement.
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After the success of Podem, the Catalan version of Podemos, in last month’s general election, the March election could produce a regional government that is radically different from any that has gone before. Podem and the CUP are broadly in agreement on social issues and, with Podem in favour of a referendum on Catalan sovereignty, the two could emerge as the strongest political forces.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/03/catalonia-uncertainty-left-wing-cup-rejects-mas
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/03/catalonia-uncertainty-left-wing-cup-rejects-mas
4 October 2017 03:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Funny in human history this argument repeats itself, and what manifests
is always a more sinister element (people like Mike Hearn). For anyone
who wants a deeper understanding, read Homage to Catalonia by Orwell
(it's all over the net in every major language) about when he went to
fight in the Spanish civil war. It started as a worker's revolution with
the worker's militias running the area under an anarchist trade-unionist
government, but the communists (supported by Stalin who wanted to
protect England and France's interests to keep them friendly to the
USSR) sided with the social democrats saying first the war, then the
revolution.
Slowly they climbed to power, carving off rival groups under they
managed to take over the police, and invade the cities with their armies
purging their enemies while their armies were on the front fighting the
actual war against the fascists. They also reversed the effects of the
revolution - why? Because they must hold the power. Because they know
what's best, and the means justify the ends.
is always a more sinister element (people like Mike Hearn). For anyone
who wants a deeper understanding, read Homage to Catalonia by Orwell
(it's all over the net in every major language) about when he went to
fight in the Spanish civil war. It started as a worker's revolution with
the worker's militias running the area under an anarchist trade-unionist
government, but the communists (supported by Stalin who wanted to
protect England and France's interests to keep them friendly to the
USSR) sided with the social democrats saying first the war, then the
revolution.
Slowly they climbed to power, carving off rival groups under they
managed to take over the police, and invade the cities with their armies
purging their enemies while their armies were on the front fighting the
actual war against the fascists. They also reversed the effects of the
revolution - why? Because they must hold the power. Because they know
what's best, and the means justify the ends.
4 October 2017 03:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nüüd jahub see tegelane iga lausega meeletult ärritades, kuidas vangidel ära keelatud suitsetamine tema arvates vähe oluline uudis oli,
NII SUUR MUUDUTUS riigis ära tehakse, ...
ja siis Naine veel jälle proovib teda piinlikust olukorrast välja aidata ja aga ei.. jahuja ikka paneb pedaaali põhja ja...
Kas see on mingi trikk, et teda lastakse eetis olla aastaid.. et mitte KGB trikk vaid nagu mingi Eesti riigi oma trikk, peavad ju kõikteised ka aru saama mis meelsust ta kumab?
NII SUUR MUUDUTUS riigis ära tehakse, ...
ja siis Naine veel jälle proovib teda piinlikust olukorrast välja aidata ja aga ei.. jahuja ikka paneb pedaaali põhja ja...
Kas see on mingi trikk, et teda lastakse eetis olla aastaid.. et mitte KGB trikk vaid nagu mingi Eesti riigi oma trikk, peavad ju kõikteised ka aru saama mis meelsust ta kumab?
4 October 2017 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja siis see kes alati kõige vähem kursis on kuid alati räägib nagu ta räägiks heasuunalist juttu
ütleb "ja siis abi täiesti ootamatult, sealt kust kõige vähem oodata, kremlist .... ja siis nüüd kuulsusega igasugused häkkerid ja aktivistid..."
Mis nagu polnud aru saada ja teada siis mida sünnib anarhsitide ja punaste aluspidadega loodud komuunides v?
// mõtlesin juba öelda, et oodake kuni inglismaa osa tõuseb.. siis tuli meelde, et vist kõige hullem enam ei tõuse..
ütleb "ja siis abi täiesti ootamatult, sealt kust kõige vähem oodata, kremlist .... ja siis nüüd kuulsusega igasugused häkkerid ja aktivistid..."
Mis nagu polnud aru saada ja teada siis mida sünnib anarhsitide ja punaste aluspidadega loodud komuunides v?
// mõtlesin juba öelda, et oodake kuni inglismaa osa tõuseb.. siis tuli meelde, et vist kõige hullem enam ei tõuse..
4 October 2017 03:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
how natural is this news source anyway...
in start better to put solution
in start better to put solution
4 October 2017 02:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or some other spiritual or magic soldiers
4 October 2017 02:39
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
ooh really, he was not a suppershooter?
lucky he was not a max spiers gone loon
lucky he was not a max spiers gone loon
4 October 2017 02:38
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Eelkõige, enda suund oleks, et kuidas peale seda, kui mahasurumist ühiskonnas enam pole,
siis prooviks ka kuidas ise hakkama saada,
kui selleks kõik eelsoodumused ja soodustused asjaliku asja tegemise tarvis võimaldatud on inimkonna arengu hetke olukorrast sõltuvalt
siis prooviks ka kuidas ise hakkama saada,
kui selleks kõik eelsoodumused ja soodustused asjaliku asja tegemise tarvis võimaldatud on inimkonna arengu hetke olukorrast sõltuvalt
4 October 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Keegi peab Me eest ju paremat hoolt kandma, selleks vaja mitmeid päid, nii paljut orjama panna, et nad lisaks enda vigadele, ka teiste vigade lahendused reaalsuse suunas aitaks viia
4 October 2017 02:35
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
(vaatan hiljem)
4 October 2017 02:34
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja aitan, seda Meil kõigil tõestada ka, et nii on,
(nii, kuidas kõigile on parem, ka minu arvates)
(nii, kuidas kõigile on parem, ka minu arvates)
4 October 2017 02:34
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja Loodan, et Nad ka Meid, ainult selleks
4 October 2017 02:33
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov mina kasutan ikka poliitikat ja usku vabastamiseks
4 October 2017 02:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
did not really know the guy but looked like an human
4 October 2017 02:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
taking in to account, structures, that was BEHIND presidency, knowing all aliens and commies.. what you think was options to do anything much better then it was handled in the end in most .. holding out most unpleasant
4 October 2017 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
I still do not get what was wrong with Reagan compared to others (and situation and times)
Actually i have started to notice less and less faultiness of politics
after getting know more and more our self
Actually i have started to notice less and less faultiness of politics
after getting know more and more our self
4 October 2017 01:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// see kõik ühtib mõndade muude paraleel lahendustega,
mitmeti ajakohane ja asjalik ka valida inimesi kes lahendusi pakuvad millega reaalselt kogu seda majandust liigutatakse ja paika sätitakse
mitmeti ajakohane ja asjalik ka valida inimesi kes lahendusi pakuvad millega reaalselt kogu seda majandust liigutatakse ja paika sätitakse
4 October 2017 01:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Ühe 3000 elanikuga kohaliku omavalitsuse raamatupidamisega saab hakkama üks EFTA raamatupidaja. Me ei ole küll igapäevaselt kohal aga me oleme alati kõigil käeulatuses. Korralik tarkvara ja asjalik väljaõpe kohapeal annab võimaluse juhtida ise enda kulusid ning ei peagi iga pisemagi küsimuse korral raamatupidamise osakonna ust kulutama. Ja see tunne, et mina kooli direktorina juhin oma valdkonna kulusid ning oman iga hetk ülevaadet saldodest, on võimas tunne. Seda rõõmu on tore kogeda ja jagada.
Sellise efektiivsuse trump pole mingi saladus – kasutame ise ning juurutame oma klientidele veebipõhiseid lahendusi – e-arvete ja teiste uute digitaalsete rakenduste kasutamine tagab juhtimiseks vajaliku info reaalajas ja 24/7.
EFTA garanteerib sujuva ülemineku digitaalsele arvepidamisele – see on on tegelikkuses imelihtne ning avab Teile rea täiesti uusi juhtimisvõimalusi.
https://efta.ee/finantsteenused-avalikule-sektorile/raamatupidamine-reaalajas
Sellise efektiivsuse trump pole mingi saladus – kasutame ise ning juurutame oma klientidele veebipõhiseid lahendusi – e-arvete ja teiste uute digitaalsete rakenduste kasutamine tagab juhtimiseks vajaliku info reaalajas ja 24/7.
EFTA garanteerib sujuva ülemineku digitaalsele arvepidamisele – see on on tegelikkuses imelihtne ning avab Teile rea täiesti uusi juhtimisvõimalusi.
https://efta.ee/finantsteenused-avalikule-sektorile/raamatupidamine-reaalajas
https://efta.ee/finantsteenused-avalikule-sektorile/raamatupidamine-reaalajas
4 October 2017 01:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"VeeRa ja haldusreform. Nutikas abiline valdade eelarvete liitmisel!
Haldusreform on toonud huvitava väljakutse - kuidas liita liidetamatuid. Ühendatavate valdade finantsjuhtide laual on mitmeid erineva struktuuri ja sisuga eelarveid ning need on vaja lühikese ajaga kokku panna õheks uueks eelarveks, mis samas peab tuginema ka eelnevate aastate koondinfole. On vältimatu, et tavalised exceli tabelid saaksid sel juhul olema kilomeetripikkused ning numbrite võrdlemisele kulub lugematu arv nii töö- kui unetunde.
VeeRat planeerides me sellele olukorrale ei mõelnud. Kuid seda rõõmsam oli üllatus kui suurepäraselt VeeRa ka selle keerulise ülesandega iseseisvalt hakkama saab. Selle mängu käivitamiseks on aga kindlasti vaja eelnevalt kokku leppida ühised eelarve reeglid (struktuurid), tõlkida kõigi osapoolte eelarved uute reeglite kohaselt ning sööta kogu info VeeRasse. Kõik järgev on puhas rõõm, sest kogu arvuline minevik on käeulatuses ning võrreldav järgmiseks perioodiks planeeritavate summadega.
VeeRa on ennast näidanud parimast küljest ka eelarvete läbirääkimiste juures, sest lisaks numbritele on ümbrikus peidus ka sisu pool ning nii ülevalt alla kui ka alt üles on võimalik pidevalt infot jagada erinevatele osapooltele.
VeeRa võimalusi saab rakendada nii sisemiste kui avalike arutelude juures, kui valla kodanikke kaasatakse eelarve aruteludesse, näiteks kaasav eelarve korral.
Haldusreform on toonud huvitava väljakutse - kuidas liita liidetamatuid. Ühendatavate valdade finantsjuhtide laual on mitmeid erineva struktuuri ja sisuga eelarveid ning need on vaja lühikese ajaga kokku panna õheks uueks eelarveks, mis samas peab tuginema ka eelnevate aastate koondinfole. On vältimatu, et tavalised exceli tabelid saaksid sel juhul olema kilomeetripikkused ning numbrite võrdlemisele kulub lugematu arv nii töö- kui unetunde.
VeeRat planeerides me sellele olukorrale ei mõelnud. Kuid seda rõõmsam oli üllatus kui suurepäraselt VeeRa ka selle keerulise ülesandega iseseisvalt hakkama saab. Selle mängu käivitamiseks on aga kindlasti vaja eelnevalt kokku leppida ühised eelarve reeglid (struktuurid), tõlkida kõigi osapoolte eelarved uute reeglite kohaselt ning sööta kogu info VeeRasse. Kõik järgev on puhas rõõm, sest kogu arvuline minevik on käeulatuses ning võrreldav järgmiseks perioodiks planeeritavate summadega.
VeeRa on ennast näidanud parimast küljest ka eelarvete läbirääkimiste juures, sest lisaks numbritele on ümbrikus peidus ka sisu pool ning nii ülevalt alla kui ka alt üles on võimalik pidevalt infot jagada erinevatele osapooltele.
VeeRa võimalusi saab rakendada nii sisemiste kui avalike arutelude juures, kui valla kodanikke kaasatakse eelarve aruteludesse, näiteks kaasav eelarve korral.
4 October 2017 01:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://efta.ee/finantsteenused-avalikule-sektorile/virtuaalne-eelarverakendus
"!Viieaastane koostöö kohalike omavalitsustega on loonud soodsa võimaluse uue töövahendi arendamiseks.
//
Elementaarne,
Avaliku ja erasektori koostööna arendasime pilverakenduse eelarvetöö korraldamiseks - virtuaalne eelarverakendus ehk VeeRa. See on mõeldud eelkõige avaliku sektori eelarvete planeerimiseks, mis loob mugava infokanali asutuse erinevate üksuste ja osakondade vahel. Koostöö omavalitsustega finantsjuhtimise korraldamisel ning intervjuud kümnete igapäevaselt eelarvestamisega kokku puutuvate professionaalidega said VeeRa arhitektuuri alustalaks. See rakendus toob lihtsuse ja korrektsuse valla finantsasjadesse, mille tulemusena muutub ametnike töö eelarve planeerimisel mugavamaks ning inimlikumaks.
Meie jaoks on oluline, et VeeRa-st ei saaks töövahend üksnes finants- ja Exceli teadmistest pungil spetsialistidele, vaid et nutikas lahendus oleks meeldivaks töövahendiks just kohaliku omavalitsuse allasutuste juhtidele (nt koolide, lasteaedade, kultuuriasutuste jms juhid). VeeRa kasutajasõbralikkus, lihtsus ja mugavus on kahe omavalitsuse eelarve koostamisel tõestatud. Kõige olulisemaks tulemuseks hindame aga vastutustaseme tõusu töötajate osas.
On suur vahe kas eelarve koostatakse kusagil finantsjuhi kabinetis suuliselt vahendatud info põhiselt või sisestab iga üksuse juht ise oma kulunumbrid ning samas ka kommenteerib neid. See loob olukorra, kus teostus ja vastutus rahaliste vahendite planeerimise ning kasutuse osas muutub selgemaks ja läbipaistvamaks, on isikustatud.
"!Viieaastane koostöö kohalike omavalitsustega on loonud soodsa võimaluse uue töövahendi arendamiseks.
//
Elementaarne,
Avaliku ja erasektori koostööna arendasime pilverakenduse eelarvetöö korraldamiseks - virtuaalne eelarverakendus ehk VeeRa. See on mõeldud eelkõige avaliku sektori eelarvete planeerimiseks, mis loob mugava infokanali asutuse erinevate üksuste ja osakondade vahel. Koostöö omavalitsustega finantsjuhtimise korraldamisel ning intervjuud kümnete igapäevaselt eelarvestamisega kokku puutuvate professionaalidega said VeeRa arhitektuuri alustalaks. See rakendus toob lihtsuse ja korrektsuse valla finantsasjadesse, mille tulemusena muutub ametnike töö eelarve planeerimisel mugavamaks ning inimlikumaks.
Meie jaoks on oluline, et VeeRa-st ei saaks töövahend üksnes finants- ja Exceli teadmistest pungil spetsialistidele, vaid et nutikas lahendus oleks meeldivaks töövahendiks just kohaliku omavalitsuse allasutuste juhtidele (nt koolide, lasteaedade, kultuuriasutuste jms juhid). VeeRa kasutajasõbralikkus, lihtsus ja mugavus on kahe omavalitsuse eelarve koostamisel tõestatud. Kõige olulisemaks tulemuseks hindame aga vastutustaseme tõusu töötajate osas.
On suur vahe kas eelarve koostatakse kusagil finantsjuhi kabinetis suuliselt vahendatud info põhiselt või sisestab iga üksuse juht ise oma kulunumbrid ning samas ka kommenteerib neid. See loob olukorra, kus teostus ja vastutus rahaliste vahendite planeerimise ning kasutuse osas muutub selgemaks ja läbipaistvamaks, on isikustatud.
https://efta.ee/finantsteenused-avalikule-sektorile/virtuaalne-eelarverakendus
4 October 2017 01:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.facebook.com/uusvald2017/posts/1921963248054899
"Meie teeme sinu eest ära töö, mida me oskame sinust paremini ja mis on aja ja raha kokkuhoidmise eesmärgil kasulik meile delegeerida.
"Meie teeme sinu eest ära töö, mida me oskame sinust paremini ja mis on aja ja raha kokkuhoidmise eesmärgil kasulik meile delegeerida.
4 October 2017 01:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis veel projecti mõõde, refrääni ümber
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/03-pk-ekviliibrium
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/03-pk-ekviliibrium
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/03-pk-ekviliibrium
4 October 2017 01:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
#Kaitsevagi tasemel räpp Noortele :
(räp tellimuste ideoloogia mis viilib tõde)
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-osteoporoos
(räp tellimuste ideoloogia mis viilib tõde)
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-osteoporoos
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-osteoporoos
4 October 2017 00:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// meedia lahti dekoodimine tunnetetunni tarvis
4 October 2017 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis pool psybienti de ja sisemixi, veel dimensiooni haaret laiemalt
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-ekstsentrik-biit-reiko-tooming
Et välismeedia sissemix
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-ekstsentrik-biit-reiko-tooming
Et välismeedia sissemix
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-ekstsentrik-biit-reiko-tooming
4 October 2017 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja samas siis oma dimensioon juba poolteist astet kõrgemalt
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-karlsson-katuselt
"Ma tean ise!" "Ma tean ise!" On iga teise küsimuse vastus
"agaKui Sa tead ise, Sa tead ise, siis miks Su elul sõidabkatus?
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-karlsson-katuselt
"Ma tean ise!" "Ma tean ise!" On iga teise küsimuse vastus
"agaKui Sa tead ise, Sa tead ise, siis miks Su elul sõidabkatus?
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-karlsson-katuselt
4 October 2017 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oi
"Ütled, et oota mind"
"Mõtlen, et ootan sind aga Sa ei hakka iial tulema.."
"Ütled, et oota mind"
"Mõtlen, et ootan sind aga Sa ei hakka iial tulema.."
4 October 2017 00:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja selle täiesti päästab teine lihtne subway stiil mis juba edasi aitab kanda, samamadalalt oma haaret veelgi laiendav
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-kodusoda-lissu
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-kodusoda-lissu
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-kodusoda-lissu
4 October 2017 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aga siin kõige tagasihoidlikum näide minimalistlikusest,
mis näitab, et ei ole suurt vabandust vaja, et Sul pole tehnoloogiat või lauluhääle laulvust
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-sulamisfaas
mis näitab, et ei ole suurt vabandust vaja, et Sul pole tehnoloogiat või lauluhääle laulvust
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-sulamisfaas
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-sulamisfaas
4 October 2017 00:35
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
tuus
4 October 2017 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
www.kyberolympia.ee
http://www.kyberolympia.ee/
4 October 2017 00:25
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
(siis tean kuidas mõtekamalt sellele edasi vastata, proovides aimata seda loogikate kulgu olukorras kus nii palju muud on kristlikult paigas)
4 October 2017 00:11
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kas see tarkus on selle eelmisega seotud, samas reaalsuses?
4 October 2017 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Can You imagine, in ages when youth think people can be Vampires,
should not be let this kind of traumatizing talks to Nation wide
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213163759145316&set=a.1265262108399.2041736.1135161043&type=3&theater
should not be let this kind of traumatizing talks to Nation wide
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213163759145316&set=a.1265262108399.2041736.1135161043&type=3&theater
4 October 2017 00:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i am no media professional, but that sounds creepy talk on harsh times
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213163758945311&set=pcb.10213163764745456&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10213163758945311&set=pcb.10213163764745456&type=3&theater
4 October 2017 00:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
iiu
3 October 2017 21:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
näe, 21:20 alles tuli üks Päris Eesti uudis ka.
Eesti KBFI gravitatsiooni laine uudis...
aah. peaaegu
Eesti KBFI gravitatsiooni laine uudis...
aah. peaaegu
3 October 2017 21:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga OMA uudised, ja oma kultuuri hoidmiseks Peame tagasi saama
3 October 2017 21:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sest Ameerika, on Eesti partner,
Maailmaparanduses, allüksus kelle tegevust proovitakse järgneva 20 aasta jooksul näha kui "kedagi kes proovib kuid kellel palju osasi
mis võtab aega
üksipulgi
Maailmaparanduses, allüksus kelle tegevust proovitakse järgneva 20 aasta jooksul näha kui "kedagi kes proovib kuid kellel palju osasi
mis võtab aega
üksipulgi
3 October 2017 21:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mul täiega veab, et ma Ameerika poolel olen, muidu nagu täiega tunduks olukord päris ohtlikult
3 October 2017 21:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nüüd räägivad, kuidas hybriid ohte alistada
3 October 2017 21:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
nad isegi strateegiliselt teinud meite iidses külas asju, nagu laiendanud teed kohas kus 7 autot päevas sõidab (ja ei hakka ka rohkem, asukoha pärast)
kuid asi selles, et laiendasid meelega sellelt poolt kus on iidsed puud, teiselpoolt kus polnud puid oleks saanud ju ka teha... lihtsamgi veel..
16 põlist puud ainuüksi ühe teeotsaga hävitati, mis küla psüühikas ja tervises kohe ka tunda andis, isegi õnnetused kohe tõusma hakkasid.. põlemised ja..3 October 2017 20:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
oih, nüüd läks veel hullemaks :D3 October 2017 20:31
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Ruukel's post.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Ei olnud mõeldud USA psüholoogilist meelsust või KGBliku ajas ettenägevat skeemi selle all:
"Tulnukad uue aasta alguses ju mitu suurt struktuuri Riigis otsesemalt üle võtsid, ETV sunnitigi uute kontorisse ja ministeeriumite kohti muudeti personali väljavahetamiseks, ühendamistest eip hakka rääkimagi (uute admins. keskuste loomiseks)"
ega tulnukate või meie kehaväliseid vaimolendeid kes läbi inimkehade võimu siin rakendavad..nende olemas olemist mitte uskujad
on varsti ainult need, kes puhta väljamõeldud vaimse-ideoloogilise-ajutise teadmispõhise seinavahel kinni, keegi kes on lootusetult hull3 October 2017 20:31
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Ruukel's post.
Group: Eesti Metsa Abiks
Mitte ainult neil, see Üle eestituntud,
Pereisa meil eluaegne metsamees ja räägib ammu lugusi kus strateegiliselt hävitatakse keskeestiski juba küla piirkondades, lisaks kui allhankes riigile läks siis kästi meelega rüüstada ja naerdi kambas välja kui proovis vanamoodi, korralikult oksi korjama hakata...
Tulnukad uue aasta alguses ju mitu suurt struktuuri Riigis otsesemalt üle bvõtsid, ETV sunnitigi uute kontorisse ja ministeeriumite kohti muudeti personali väljavahetamiseks, ühendamistest eip hakka rääkimagi (uute admins. keskuste loomiseks)3 October 2017 20:25
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Sa ise ka usud, et see on tõde mida ütlesid end teadma?
Sinust juba rääkis teine kiilakasselles videos, kuula.
Sinust juba rääkis teine kiilakasselles videos, kuula.
3 October 2017 20:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sõna+objektiiv
(Valikus veel: Usk; Poliitika; Jumal; inimene; riik 1 2 3; tõde; Eesti: Armastus: Au; Lootus )
(Valikus veel: Usk; Poliitika; Jumal; inimene; riik 1 2 3; tõde; Eesti: Armastus: Au; Lootus )
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=s%C3%B5na+objektiiv
3 October 2017 19:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja samal ajal suutsid Visiooni ja loo, vaimu või hinge ka sisse jätta, tajun veel,
3 October 2017 18:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Loving it so far : )
poleks arvanutki, aga näed, nad said Nime väärilise teose, tööga hakkama, hea asja loomud, tublid!
poleks arvanutki, aga näed, nad said Nime väärilise teose, tööga hakkama, hea asja loomud, tublid!
3 October 2017 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Also a here, video a bit lookable:
https://youtu.be/GRe3GUaw1iU?t=587
https://youtu.be/GRe3GUaw1iU?t=587
https://youtu.be/GRe3GUaw1iU?t=587
3 October 2017 17:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
a bit of that
(Channel VCR.. song.. RGB :p Anachronist yo! )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0obpScUz_VE
(Channel VCR.. song.. RGB :p Anachronist yo! )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0obpScUz_VE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0obpScUz_VE
3 October 2017 17:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And mixing in to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfTn-6Yg_4c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfTn-6Yg_4c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfTn-6Yg_4c
3 October 2017 17:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and this kind of .. soft core, holding old women up... old times they at best would have just shoot from distance, or send a plague @ first
3 October 2017 17:46
Margus Meigo commented on Silver Tambur's post.
It is kind of like people have forget, that Spanish is among other imperialists one of the Earth history most brutal and large scale war mongers thought history
3 October 2017 17:45
Margus Meigo commented on Silver Tambur's post.
My anarchist friends bragged 5 years ago how they make political revolution and freedom happening in Catalonia, how they already have self managing schools, hospitals, food networks, wifi networks etc
3 October 2017 17:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Sci-fi, histopry, godreallity or
What
"Since the "Chapters" were separated much later in time, we must read from Ezek. 8-9 without any interruption, which is normally the case when an author 'assigns' a chapter to a particular train of thought. Ezekiel is "caught up in the spirit", meaning he is seeing what God is seeing in the realm of the spirit world, so angels, spirit beings, God or manifestations of God are readily seen, and concrete, opaque structures(such as the Temple) are seen right through, just as God sees through everything physical and temporal.
Keil and Delitzsch offer this commentary in regard to the 'men' of Ezek. 9:1,
Consequently פּקדּות are those whom God has appointed to watch over the city, the city-guard (2 Kings 11:18), - not earthly, but heavenly watchmen, - who are now to inflict punishment upon the ungodly, as the authorities appointed by God.
Furthermore, they add,
In the midst of the six men furnished with smashing-tools there was one clothed in white byssus, with writing materials at his side. The dress and equipment, as well as the instructions which he afterwards receives and executes, show him to be the prince or leader of the others. Kliefoth calls in question the opinion that these seven men are angels; but without any reason. Angels appearing in human form are frequently called אנשׁים or אישׁ, according to their external habitus
The "Watchmen" are those angels assigned territorially by God, to protect or to execute His Judgements. What is interesting in this passage is that those who "escape these judgements" are those who "sigh and cry for all the abominations done in them", and what is more, is they are "marked"; some versions say "with a 'tau'".
This is very significant, as God had Israel "mark" their doorposts and lintels in Egypt to escape destruction, and we see this passage as a precursor to the "mark" or "sign" that God gives to His servants,(Rev. 7:3)
"Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads."
We can therefore conclude a "biblical pattern" of God "marking" or identifying out those who will escape judgement from the rest who do, and it is the "watchmen" or angels who are assigned to carry out those judgements.
What
"Since the "Chapters" were separated much later in time, we must read from Ezek. 8-9 without any interruption, which is normally the case when an author 'assigns' a chapter to a particular train of thought. Ezekiel is "caught up in the spirit", meaning he is seeing what God is seeing in the realm of the spirit world, so angels, spirit beings, God or manifestations of God are readily seen, and concrete, opaque structures(such as the Temple) are seen right through, just as God sees through everything physical and temporal.
Keil and Delitzsch offer this commentary in regard to the 'men' of Ezek. 9:1,
Consequently פּקדּות are those whom God has appointed to watch over the city, the city-guard (2 Kings 11:18), - not earthly, but heavenly watchmen, - who are now to inflict punishment upon the ungodly, as the authorities appointed by God.
Furthermore, they add,
In the midst of the six men furnished with smashing-tools there was one clothed in white byssus, with writing materials at his side. The dress and equipment, as well as the instructions which he afterwards receives and executes, show him to be the prince or leader of the others. Kliefoth calls in question the opinion that these seven men are angels; but without any reason. Angels appearing in human form are frequently called אנשׁים or אישׁ, according to their external habitus
The "Watchmen" are those angels assigned territorially by God, to protect or to execute His Judgements. What is interesting in this passage is that those who "escape these judgements" are those who "sigh and cry for all the abominations done in them", and what is more, is they are "marked"; some versions say "with a 'tau'".
This is very significant, as God had Israel "mark" their doorposts and lintels in Egypt to escape destruction, and we see this passage as a precursor to the "mark" or "sign" that God gives to His servants,(Rev. 7:3)
"Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads."
We can therefore conclude a "biblical pattern" of God "marking" or identifying out those who will escape judgement from the rest who do, and it is the "watchmen" or angels who are assigned to carry out those judgements.
3 October 2017 17:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
9-11
http://biblehub.com/ezekiel/9-11.htm
http://biblehub.com/ezekiel/9-11.htm
http://biblehub.com/ezekiel/9-11.htm
3 October 2017 17:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Reminds me a story..
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/9291/who-is-the-man-in-linen-in-ezekiel-9
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/9291/who-is-the-man-in-linen-in-ezekiel-9
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/9291/who-is-the-man-in-linen-in-ezekiel-9
3 October 2017 17:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ja mu puukarp.. mis koos sisuga jäi mul..
3 October 2017 17:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See palveruumi , väikse kesklinna mošees
ja efectina see värvide, turvariba helk, mis Coinil oelma peaks.. hoopis on riiulisse jäänud...
(Amir Taaki ema telefon ka veel pildil :p)
ja efectina see värvide, turvariba helk, mis Coinil oelma peaks.. hoopis on riiulisse jäänud...
(Amir Taaki ema telefon ka veel pildil :p)
3 October 2017 16:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Oh.. minu seljakotist, on siin veel näha minu bitcoini reaalne Coin millest ilma kahjuks jäin, koos kõigega mida üks huvitav kaatris elav bitcoini tarkpea sõbrapoolest kandis ... (bicoini algusaegade poole)
kes teab, mis ta oleks siiani... kui alles oleks.. või kui oleks edasistele koos vallutustele läinud blockchaini hackeritega
// Kusjuures nüüd pildi pealt alles avastasin, et ta mul koti esiaknas oli..
või on see ikka euro sääl? Kahtlen. Neil münt samamoodi äärtega oli, millal mul neid eurosi ja rahasi inglismaal ikka oli ...
// >PS: FB ajameeldetueluse programm on planeeedi inimteadvuse säilitamiseks kasulik ,oluline ka
kes teab, mis ta oleks siiani... kui alles oleks.. või kui oleks edasistele koos vallutustele läinud blockchaini hackeritega
// Kusjuures nüüd pildi pealt alles avastasin, et ta mul koti esiaknas oli..
või on see ikka euro sääl? Kahtlen. Neil münt samamoodi äärtega oli, millal mul neid eurosi ja rahasi inglismaal ikka oli ...
// >PS: FB ajameeldetueluse programm on planeeedi inimteadvuse säilitamiseks kasulik ,oluline ka
3 October 2017 16:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Better Jet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqLZVHxwfXI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqLZVHxwfXI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqLZVHxwfXI
3 October 2017 16:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga kui ei oel siis võin lohjutuseks öelda, et annan ise ka Sul teada kui saab kindlaks, et on võimalik teada
2 October 2017 23:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mingitpidi arvan, et Sul on mingi oma teema, :D oma lahendus selles osas,
et nagu muust vaimu perekonna liigist, kus miskid muud lahendused on ka reaalsed sellest pääsemiseks millest vaja,
ja minekuks , selle poole kuhu vaja
et nagu muust vaimu perekonna liigist, kus miskid muud lahendused on ka reaalsed sellest pääsemiseks millest vaja,
ja minekuks , selle poole kuhu vaja
2 October 2017 23:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
teadmaks kes on mis // aga ega ma Su lõpp plaanidest ei saanutki sotti ka kui seda asja, mis moodi Sultel siis need plaanid on planeeritud eluväliselt, või mis teada on kindlalt,
2 October 2017 23:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Millised muidu mu normaalsemad paremad plaanid olid mingi toimetamiste osas mida teha oleks (võiks olla) võimalik
// et kui kasvõi paar ainult meelde tuleb , siis mõned lisa siia, kõik mis saad, kasuks ikka
// et kui kasvõi paar ainult meelde tuleb , siis mõned lisa siia, kõik mis saad, kasuks ikka
2 October 2017 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui seda kõik mäletame siis saaksid kõik üksteisega läbi, sest neid enam juurde ei toodeta, kes vaspupidi mõtlema pandud
2 October 2017 23:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aga siin maailmas?
2 October 2017 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on Berit Masso's post.
tuln<ari?
2 October 2017 23:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
But besides that, the " Virtual Session: Can the Internet of Insecure Things Be Saved? "
Is that optimistic sentence2 October 2017 23:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
sorry, puberty2 October 2017 23:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
ah,
https://www.rsaconference.com/videos?tags=Webcasthttps://www.rsaconference.com/videos?tags=Webcast
2 October 2017 22:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// just practising my salesman skills (not really, just joking)
2 October 2017 22:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
free, as freedom to take part by just by share right of having internet, in public, own name
2 October 2017 22:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So can You see, the opportunity, to be in access, off RSA talks,
by so little effort,
Opportunity to shine, mostly free
by so little effort,
Opportunity to shine, mostly free
2 October 2017 22:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Not so much About the names , but just think it as opportunity to meet the ones, who have free time and will come to some event like that (instead going to rocky mountains, cinema.. )
"About the presenters
Michael Kaiser, Executive Director, National Cyber Security Alliance /Image
Michael Kaiser joined the National Cyber Security Alliance (NCSA) in 2008. As NCSA’s chief executive, Mr. Kaiser engages diverse constituencies—business, government and other nonprofit organizations—in NCSA’s broad public education and outreach efforts to promote a safer, more secure and more trusted Internet. Mr. Kaiser leads NCSA in several major awareness initiatives, including National Cyber Security Awareness Month (NCSAM) each October, Data Privacy Day (Jan. 28) and STOP. THINK. CONNECT., the global online safety awareness and education campaign. NCSA builds efforts through public-private partnerships that address cybersecurity and privacy issues for a wide array of target audiences, including individuals, families and the education and business communities. In 2009, Mr. Kaiser was named one of SC Magazine’s information security luminaries.
@MKaiserNCSA
Mark McGovern, VP, Product Management, CA Technologies
/ Image
Mark McGovern is a respected security expert and VP, Product Management for CA Technologies. Mark joined CA in April 2016 when they acquired Mobile System 7, a leading user and entity behavior analytics (UEBA) company that Mark led as CEO and founder. Previously Mark was VP of Technology at In-Q-Tel where he led security investments for the U.S. Intelligence Community and was Director of Technology for Cigital Inc. where he led Cigital’s Software Security Group supporting a Fortune 100 clientele. Earlier in his career, Mark worked as an engineer for the Central Intelligence Agency building covert and clandestine communication systems. He holds a B.S. in Electrical Engineering from Worcester Polytechnic Institute and an M.S. in Systems Engineering from Virginia Polytechnic Institute.
@mobilesystem7
Ken Modeste, Cybersecurity Lead, UL
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Ken Modeste is the cybersecurity lead, principal technical advisor and subject matter expert for UL’s Cybersecurity Assurance Program. He helped develop UL’s series of cybersecurity standards that tests network-connectable devices for known vulnerabilities and software security. A key developer of the cybersecurity strategy for UL, Ken is responsible for strategically identifying long-term growth opportunities that align with UL’s mission to address public safety. He is responsible for creating the laboratory, hiring and training all personnel and developing programs and services to support UL’s client’s security needs. Ken has a proven track record in leading large diverse teams delivering commercial enterprise software in rapid environments with major business financial commitments.
"About the presenters
Michael Kaiser, Executive Director, National Cyber Security Alliance /Image
Michael Kaiser joined the National Cyber Security Alliance (NCSA) in 2008. As NCSA’s chief executive, Mr. Kaiser engages diverse constituencies—business, government and other nonprofit organizations—in NCSA’s broad public education and outreach efforts to promote a safer, more secure and more trusted Internet. Mr. Kaiser leads NCSA in several major awareness initiatives, including National Cyber Security Awareness Month (NCSAM) each October, Data Privacy Day (Jan. 28) and STOP. THINK. CONNECT., the global online safety awareness and education campaign. NCSA builds efforts through public-private partnerships that address cybersecurity and privacy issues for a wide array of target audiences, including individuals, families and the education and business communities. In 2009, Mr. Kaiser was named one of SC Magazine’s information security luminaries.
@MKaiserNCSA
Mark McGovern, VP, Product Management, CA Technologies
/ Image
Mark McGovern is a respected security expert and VP, Product Management for CA Technologies. Mark joined CA in April 2016 when they acquired Mobile System 7, a leading user and entity behavior analytics (UEBA) company that Mark led as CEO and founder. Previously Mark was VP of Technology at In-Q-Tel where he led security investments for the U.S. Intelligence Community and was Director of Technology for Cigital Inc. where he led Cigital’s Software Security Group supporting a Fortune 100 clientele. Earlier in his career, Mark worked as an engineer for the Central Intelligence Agency building covert and clandestine communication systems. He holds a B.S. in Electrical Engineering from Worcester Polytechnic Institute and an M.S. in Systems Engineering from Virginia Polytechnic Institute.
@mobilesystem7
Ken Modeste, Cybersecurity Lead, UL
/ Image
Ken Modeste is the cybersecurity lead, principal technical advisor and subject matter expert for UL’s Cybersecurity Assurance Program. He helped develop UL’s series of cybersecurity standards that tests network-connectable devices for known vulnerabilities and software security. A key developer of the cybersecurity strategy for UL, Ken is responsible for strategically identifying long-term growth opportunities that align with UL’s mission to address public safety. He is responsible for creating the laboratory, hiring and training all personnel and developing programs and services to support UL’s client’s security needs. Ken has a proven track record in leading large diverse teams delivering commercial enterprise software in rapid environments with major business financial commitments.
2 October 2017 22:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
also from https://staysafeonline.org/event/can-internet-insecure-things-saved/
https://staysafeonline.org/event/can-internet-insecure-things-saved/
2 October 2017 22:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Online Meeting on NSA/DARPA level conference platform (used by these ) :
"The new age of innovation will enable unbelievable convenience and incredible advances in enterprise technologies. Adoption of enterprise IoT is accelerating quickly from manufacturing to transportation and utilities to healthcare as it provides a plethora of insight to strengthen machine learning and help humans do their jobs better and more efficiently. However, the innovation and proliferation of connected devices provides expanded vulnerabilities and a lucrative market for cybercriminals. What are these vulnerabilities and what big idea solutions are in the works to address these IoT threats? Do artificial intelligence and machine learning enable new opportunities to defend against such threats or will the opponent get access to the same data and technology leading to a cyber-arms race? Hosted by RSAC and the National Cyber Security Alliance, great minds will debate these issues and more in honor of National Cyber Security Awareness Month."
https://www.rsaconference.com/videos/virtual-session-can-the-internet-of-insecure-things-be-saved
"The new age of innovation will enable unbelievable convenience and incredible advances in enterprise technologies. Adoption of enterprise IoT is accelerating quickly from manufacturing to transportation and utilities to healthcare as it provides a plethora of insight to strengthen machine learning and help humans do their jobs better and more efficiently. However, the innovation and proliferation of connected devices provides expanded vulnerabilities and a lucrative market for cybercriminals. What are these vulnerabilities and what big idea solutions are in the works to address these IoT threats? Do artificial intelligence and machine learning enable new opportunities to defend against such threats or will the opponent get access to the same data and technology leading to a cyber-arms race? Hosted by RSAC and the National Cyber Security Alliance, great minds will debate these issues and more in honor of National Cyber Security Awareness Month."
https://www.rsaconference.com/videos/virtual-session-can-the-internet-of-insecure-things-be-saved
https://www.rsaconference.com/videos/virtual-session-can-the-internet-of-insecure-things-be-saved
2 October 2017 22:28
Margus Meigo commented on Rita Jegonjan-Ennula's post.
Õnne ikka edasi veel!
2 October 2017 22:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et hea oleks
2 October 2017 22:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sedasi kuidas on vaja
2 October 2017 22:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ehk kui keegi tegeles isegi oma keele loomise loomisega, siis pigem innustada
2 October 2017 22:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(kuid õnneks see on kunagi hiljem, eri olukiordaes korduv )
Nii, kas see siis kergendab meie meelte, meie maiste omavaheliste arusaamade edastamsit või jääme siin virisema kirjakeele pärast kellele siis veel arusaadavamaks tegema kui neile kes viitsivad arusaada saada
Nii, kas see siis kergendab meie meelte, meie maiste omavaheliste arusaamade edastamsit või jääme siin virisema kirjakeele pärast kellele siis veel arusaadavamaks tegema kui neile kes viitsivad arusaada saada
2 October 2017 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
est
2 October 2017 22:00
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
avatar oli ka selle mõttega ju
2 October 2017 21:25
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
let's fix that
2 October 2017 21:23
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
see on maainimeste ja vaeste meelega väljasuretamise projectide osa,
nagu igast korstna tsekkimised pidi plaan ka olema puukütte likvideerimise suunale minekust.. eriti need uued standardid ..suht maainimese vaenulikud olevat.
Kuid yeah.. me niigi maksame lampi juurde 20 eurot võrguttasu 5 eurosele arvele lisaks.. et mis nüüd siis veeeel rohkem v??
nagu igast korstna tsekkimised pidi plaan ka olema puukütte likvideerimise suunale minekust.. eriti need uued standardid ..suht maainimese vaenulikud olevat.
Kuid yeah.. me niigi maksame lampi juurde 20 eurot võrguttasu 5 eurosele arvele lisaks.. et mis nüüd siis veeeel rohkem v??
2 October 2017 21:22
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
vaimuenergia lüpsmise staadiumi nimi ka pandud kohe asjakohane
2 October 2017 21:19
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
hahaha
2 October 2017 21:14
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
on ikka tuusad loomingu tegelased
2 October 2017 21:13
Margus Meigo replied to Ülle Kallas's comment.
nu suitsetamist maha jätta,
üks suurimaid populaarsemaid orjusi
millel pole ei maitset, ei head lõhna lõpuks ega hinge või vaimu väärtust mis inimest teeniks, ..mis myrgitab tervist ja teisi ja saadab kõige enam raha USA rikkamate firmadele, ... kohe ligidal alko ja suhkru ärile .. kuid ometigi.. kuidagi pole inimene veel suutnud aksepteerida, et mingid taimed ja asutused olid targemad kui nemad.. ja meie nõrgemad kui arvasime..seni kuni seda ei tee, .. pole lihtne ka vist loobuda ebavajalikust
üks suurimaid populaarsemaid orjusi
millel pole ei maitset, ei head lõhna lõpuks ega hinge või vaimu väärtust mis inimest teeniks, ..mis myrgitab tervist ja teisi ja saadab kõige enam raha USA rikkamate firmadele, ... kohe ligidal alko ja suhkru ärile .. kuid ometigi.. kuidagi pole inimene veel suutnud aksepteerida, et mingid taimed ja asutused olid targemad kui nemad.. ja meie nõrgemad kui arvasime..seni kuni seda ei tee, .. pole lihtne ka vist loobuda ebavajalikust
2 October 2017 21:07
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
i do
2 October 2017 21:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Religion, if used well, will help to ower come these illusions
2 October 2017 21:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or democracy
2 October 2017 21:01
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
no, it is called communism
2 October 2017 21:01
Margus Meigo commented on Olya Levistova's post.
you can not get any place with racket, person who knows aliens to be real should also know that
2 October 2017 20:58
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
Pane nad pildi sisse
2 October 2017 18:03
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
Kuid iseenesest päris positiivne reklaam:
"Politsei hinnangul on vähe tõenäoline, et Lall trahve maksta kavatseb ning taotleb talle kohtus asenduskaristusena aresti.
Äriregistri andmetel alates 1998. aastast Eesti Kristlike Demokraatide ridadesse kuuluv Lall on tuntud Keskerakonna ja selle endise esimehe Edgar Savisaare ustava toetajana, kuid ei põlga ära ka Eesti Konservatiivse Rahvaerakonna (EKRE) ega ka teiste huvigruppide üritusi."
"Politsei hinnangul on vähe tõenäoline, et Lall trahve maksta kavatseb ning taotleb talle kohtus asenduskaristusena aresti.
Äriregistri andmetel alates 1998. aastast Eesti Kristlike Demokraatide ridadesse kuuluv Lall on tuntud Keskerakonna ja selle endise esimehe Edgar Savisaare ustava toetajana, kuid ei põlga ära ka Eesti Konservatiivse Rahvaerakonna (EKRE) ega ka teiste huvigruppide üritusi."
2 October 2017 17:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
st kui palju oleks, kui oleks pidanud maksma pidevalt linnas olemise eest jms
2 October 2017 17:54
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
Kui mitu tuhat tegelikult säästetud juba on ?
2 October 2017 17:53
Margus Meigo replied to Maarja Hiiekivi's comment.
Ja abikaasa enne seda, küll tagasihoidlikum, kuid ikkagi,
1989–1990 ENSV Riikliku Plaanikomitee esimehe asetäitja, 1990–1992 rahandusministri asetäitja, aastast 1993 AS EnnRoose&Ko juhataja, maksunõunik, 1989–1990 valitsuse ekspertrühma esimees uue seadusloome alal, 1991 valitsuse rahareformi ekspertrühma esimees, 1992. aasta rahareformiga kaasneva majandusreformi komisjoni juht, 1994–1995 Tallinna Linnavolikogu rahandusnõunik, aastast 1995 Eesti Maksumaksjate Liidu juhataja esimees.
Oli Eesti majanduse iseseisvuse (IME) probleemnõukogu eestvedajaid, tegelenud 1990–1995 Eesti maksusüsteemi sätestamise ja arendamisega. ENSV riiklik preemia (1972) (kollektiivis), Saksamaa majandusreformi auhind (1992). Üle 10 teadustrükise
Lõpetas 1957 Tallinna Polütehnikumi, 1964 Tallinna Polütehnilise Instituudi energeetikateaduskonna ja 1977 Moskvas NSVL TA Majandusmatemaatika Keskinstituudi aspirantuuri; majanduskandidaat (1977, samas), väitekiri "Некоторые теоретические вопросы проектирования систем управления (отраслевой аспект)". Täiendanud end maksunduses Soomes, Rootsis, Taanis, Austrias, Saksamaal, Prantsusmaal ja Kanadas
Käibemaksu aktuaaltekstid: seadused, juhendid, kommentaarid, seisuga 1. jaanuar 1995 (koost). Tallinn, 1995.
Juhtimissüsteemide morfoloogia ja dialektika (kaasautor Ülo Vooglaid). Tallinn, 1986
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// Üldiselt nende peredes ühesõnaga, ikka kelle ja kultuuri küsimused päris süvitsi, mitmetpidi on teada..
Ikka auväärsete teadmistega inimesed ju või mis..
Ehk jääb ikka lootus, et kõik oli... ja on... Eesti Kasuks
1989–1990 ENSV Riikliku Plaanikomitee esimehe asetäitja, 1990–1992 rahandusministri asetäitja, aastast 1993 AS EnnRoose&Ko juhataja, maksunõunik, 1989–1990 valitsuse ekspertrühma esimees uue seadusloome alal, 1991 valitsuse rahareformi ekspertrühma esimees, 1992. aasta rahareformiga kaasneva majandusreformi komisjoni juht, 1994–1995 Tallinna Linnavolikogu rahandusnõunik, aastast 1995 Eesti Maksumaksjate Liidu juhataja esimees.
Oli Eesti majanduse iseseisvuse (IME) probleemnõukogu eestvedajaid, tegelenud 1990–1995 Eesti maksusüsteemi sätestamise ja arendamisega. ENSV riiklik preemia (1972) (kollektiivis), Saksamaa majandusreformi auhind (1992). Üle 10 teadustrükise
Lõpetas 1957 Tallinna Polütehnikumi, 1964 Tallinna Polütehnilise Instituudi energeetikateaduskonna ja 1977 Moskvas NSVL TA Majandusmatemaatika Keskinstituudi aspirantuuri; majanduskandidaat (1977, samas), väitekiri "Некоторые теоретические вопросы проектирования систем управления (отраслевой аспект)". Täiendanud end maksunduses Soomes, Rootsis, Taanis, Austrias, Saksamaal, Prantsusmaal ja Kanadas
Käibemaksu aktuaaltekstid: seadused, juhendid, kommentaarid, seisuga 1. jaanuar 1995 (koost). Tallinn, 1995.
Juhtimissüsteemide morfoloogia ja dialektika (kaasautor Ülo Vooglaid). Tallinn, 1986
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// Üldiselt nende peredes ühesõnaga, ikka kelle ja kultuuri küsimused päris süvitsi, mitmetpidi on teada..
Ikka auväärsete teadmistega inimesed ju või mis..
Ehk jääb ikka lootus, et kõik oli... ja on... Eesti Kasuks
2 October 2017 17:38
Margus Meigo replied to Maarja Hiiekivi's comment.
Et point on, lisaks info kogumisele uuele generatsioonile näidata, arusaada, kuidas need juhtnöörid, ja niidid siin toimuvad.. kes kellega liidus on ja mida see tähendab,
lihtsalt sõnast "mafiapande" ei piisa... vaja ka reaalseid sidemeid, asutuste nimesi, skeemide paljastusi ja sõprade tutvustusi... protokolle ja dokumente võib ka juurde lisada...
lihtsalt sõnast "mafiapande" ei piisa... vaja ka reaalseid sidemeid, asutuste nimesi, skeemide paljastusi ja sõprade tutvustusi... protokolle ja dokumente võib ka juurde lisada...
2 October 2017 17:32
Margus Meigo replied to Maarja Hiiekivi's comment.
Lauristini mees, aga omakorda ka tugeva CVga,
kas siis tõesti võimalik, et avalikult, sedasi oldud, ja siiani ükski organ ei ole aru saanud millega tegelikult tegeletakse, kui tegeletakse sellise vandenõuga nagu Punaste tagasitulekuga...
"Peeter_Vihalemm:
1974. aasta novembris kaitses ta Leningradi ülikoolis väitekirja "Hoiakute osa ajaleheinformatsiooni vastuvõtul" ja sai psühholoogiakandidaadi kraadi.
Ajakirjandusosakonda asus Vihalemm täiskohaga tööle 1978. aasta sügisel. Septembris 1989 sai ta Marju Lauristini asemel ajakirjanduskateedri juhatajaks, selles ametis jätkas kuni 1997. aastani. Vihalemm oli professor aastatel 1992–1997 ja 2001–2009, 2009. aastal sai temast emeriitprofessor.
(Emeriitprofessor on aunimetus, mis antakse professori ametikohalt pensionile läinud õppejõule.)
Peeter Vihalemm on luuletaja ja kunstniku Arno Vihalemma teine poeg. Tema vend Rein Vihalemm oli teadusfilosoof.
Peeter Vihalemm on abielus (aastast 1978) sotsioloog Marju Lauristiniga
Eesti Akadeemilise Ajakirjanduse Seltsi esimees 2010–2014, aseesimees 2014–...
Tartu Ülikooli Nõukogu liige 2001–2005
Sotsiaalteaduskonna nõukogu liige 1995–1997 ja alates 2000. aastast
Žurnalistika osakonna juhataja 1989–1997
Balti Ajakirjandusuurijate Assotsiatsiooni esimees alates 1993. aastast
Euroopa Sotsioloogia Assotsiatsiooni juhatuse liige 2001–2003
Eesti Sotsioloogide Liidu juhatuse liige 1993–1995, 1999–2001
Toimetamised:
Eesti meediasüsteem ja meediakasutus
Propaganda teaduslikud alused ja ideoloogiline töö (propagandateooria, mõjustamispsühholoogia
Kommunikatsiooniteooria
Sotsiaalpsühholoogia
Lugemispsühholoogia[
Mõjustamispsühholoogia [ – selle asemel praegu meedia efektid ja efektiivsus
Konkreetsete sotsioloogiliste uurimuste metoodika ja ajakirjandus
Ajaleheauditoorium
Eesti massiteabevahendite auditoorium
Teaduslik-tehnilise revolutsiooni sotsiaalsed tagajärjed
Avaliku arvamuse teooria
Sissejuhatus ajakirjandusteooriasse
Ajakirjandussotsioloogia[
Avalik arvamus
Meedia ja kommunikatsiooni uurimismeetodid
Meedia ja kommunikatsiooni uurimismeetodite jätkukursus (magistriõpe)
Baltic media
Seminari-, bakalaureuse-, magistri- ja doktoritööde juhendamine
Tähtsamad publikatsioonid:
Massikommunikatsiooni teooria (Tartu Riiklik Ülikool, 1977, koos M. Lauristiniga)
Rajoonileht ja lugeja (Eesti Raamat, 1987, koos M. Lauristini, S. Uusi ja J. Peegliga)
Meie muutuv elulaad (Eesti Raamat, 1988, koos E. Hioni ja M. Lauristiniga) ISBN 5450000782
Contemporary life-styles in Estonia (Perioodika, 1988, koos E. Hioni ja M. Lauristiniga) ISBN 5797900823
Viron vapauden tuulet (Helsingi, 1989, koos M. Lauristini ja R. Ruutsooga) ISBN 9512034484
„ESTONIA“: The disaster in Estonian media (Stockholm, 1996, koos M. Lauristiniga)
Return to the Western World. Cultural and political perspectives on the Estonian postcommunist transition (Tartu Ülikooli Kirjastus, 1997, koos M. Lauristini, K. E. Rosengreni ja L. Weibulliga) ISBN 9985562577
Baltic Media in Transition (Tartu Ülikooli Kirjastus, 2002) ISBN 9985566424
Meediasüsteem ja meediakasutus Eestis 1965-2004 (Tartu Ülikooli Kirjastus, 2004) ISBN 998556930X
Towards a civic society: The Baltic media’s long road to freedom (Tartu: Baltic Association for Media research/Nota Baltica, 1993, koos E. Lauki ja S. Hoyeriga) ISBN 9985600142
Estonia’s Transition to the EU: Twenty Years On (New York: Routledge, 2010, koos M. Lauristiniga) ISBN 9780415557320
Eesti Akadeemilise Ajakirjanduse Seltsi aastaraamat 2009/2010 (Tartu Ülikooli Kirjastus, 2011, koos I. Udega) ISSN 2228-0316
// Neid asju tasuks lausa uurida mis ta siis kirjutanud ja Meie rahavale anda on proovinud, et meid selle systeemi seest.. aidata.. lekitada nende arusaame ja plaane.. või mis nende plaan siis avalikes väljatulemistes on, otseselt meie vastaseid kirjutusi ... ütlusi.. kas neil kunagi ka kirjas, enda nimel on?
kas siis tõesti võimalik, et avalikult, sedasi oldud, ja siiani ükski organ ei ole aru saanud millega tegelikult tegeletakse, kui tegeletakse sellise vandenõuga nagu Punaste tagasitulekuga...
"Peeter_Vihalemm:
1974. aasta novembris kaitses ta Leningradi ülikoolis väitekirja "Hoiakute osa ajaleheinformatsiooni vastuvõtul" ja sai psühholoogiakandidaadi kraadi.
Ajakirjandusosakonda asus Vihalemm täiskohaga tööle 1978. aasta sügisel. Septembris 1989 sai ta Marju Lauristini asemel ajakirjanduskateedri juhatajaks, selles ametis jätkas kuni 1997. aastani. Vihalemm oli professor aastatel 1992–1997 ja 2001–2009, 2009. aastal sai temast emeriitprofessor.
(Emeriitprofessor on aunimetus, mis antakse professori ametikohalt pensionile läinud õppejõule.)
Peeter Vihalemm on luuletaja ja kunstniku Arno Vihalemma teine poeg. Tema vend Rein Vihalemm oli teadusfilosoof.
Peeter Vihalemm on abielus (aastast 1978) sotsioloog Marju Lauristiniga
Eesti Akadeemilise Ajakirjanduse Seltsi esimees 2010–2014, aseesimees 2014–...
Tartu Ülikooli Nõukogu liige 2001–2005
Sotsiaalteaduskonna nõukogu liige 1995–1997 ja alates 2000. aastast
Žurnalistika osakonna juhataja 1989–1997
Balti Ajakirjandusuurijate Assotsiatsiooni esimees alates 1993. aastast
Euroopa Sotsioloogia Assotsiatsiooni juhatuse liige 2001–2003
Eesti Sotsioloogide Liidu juhatuse liige 1993–1995, 1999–2001
Toimetamised:
Eesti meediasüsteem ja meediakasutus
Propaganda teaduslikud alused ja ideoloogiline töö (propagandateooria, mõjustamispsühholoogia
Kommunikatsiooniteooria
Sotsiaalpsühholoogia
Lugemispsühholoogia[
Mõjustamispsühholoogia [ – selle asemel praegu meedia efektid ja efektiivsus
Konkreetsete sotsioloogiliste uurimuste metoodika ja ajakirjandus
Ajaleheauditoorium
Eesti massiteabevahendite auditoorium
Teaduslik-tehnilise revolutsiooni sotsiaalsed tagajärjed
Avaliku arvamuse teooria
Sissejuhatus ajakirjandusteooriasse
Ajakirjandussotsioloogia[
Avalik arvamus
Meedia ja kommunikatsiooni uurimismeetodid
Meedia ja kommunikatsiooni uurimismeetodite jätkukursus (magistriõpe)
Baltic media
Seminari-, bakalaureuse-, magistri- ja doktoritööde juhendamine
Tähtsamad publikatsioonid:
Massikommunikatsiooni teooria (Tartu Riiklik Ülikool, 1977, koos M. Lauristiniga)
Rajoonileht ja lugeja (Eesti Raamat, 1987, koos M. Lauristini, S. Uusi ja J. Peegliga)
Meie muutuv elulaad (Eesti Raamat, 1988, koos E. Hioni ja M. Lauristiniga) ISBN 5450000782
Contemporary life-styles in Estonia (Perioodika, 1988, koos E. Hioni ja M. Lauristiniga) ISBN 5797900823
Viron vapauden tuulet (Helsingi, 1989, koos M. Lauristini ja R. Ruutsooga) ISBN 9512034484
„ESTONIA“: The disaster in Estonian media (Stockholm, 1996, koos M. Lauristiniga)
Return to the Western World. Cultural and political perspectives on the Estonian postcommunist transition (Tartu Ülikooli Kirjastus, 1997, koos M. Lauristini, K. E. Rosengreni ja L. Weibulliga) ISBN 9985562577
Baltic Media in Transition (Tartu Ülikooli Kirjastus, 2002) ISBN 9985566424
Meediasüsteem ja meediakasutus Eestis 1965-2004 (Tartu Ülikooli Kirjastus, 2004) ISBN 998556930X
Towards a civic society: The Baltic media’s long road to freedom (Tartu: Baltic Association for Media research/Nota Baltica, 1993, koos E. Lauki ja S. Hoyeriga) ISBN 9985600142
Estonia’s Transition to the EU: Twenty Years On (New York: Routledge, 2010, koos M. Lauristiniga) ISBN 9780415557320
Eesti Akadeemilise Ajakirjanduse Seltsi aastaraamat 2009/2010 (Tartu Ülikooli Kirjastus, 2011, koos I. Udega) ISSN 2228-0316
// Neid asju tasuks lausa uurida mis ta siis kirjutanud ja Meie rahavale anda on proovinud, et meid selle systeemi seest.. aidata.. lekitada nende arusaame ja plaane.. või mis nende plaan siis avalikes väljatulemistes on, otseselt meie vastaseid kirjutusi ... ütlusi.. kas neil kunagi ka kirjas, enda nimel on?
2 October 2017 17:30
Margus Meigo replied to Maarja Hiiekivi's comment.
Nu Juudid minu raamatus on ikka väga rahusriikide poolt ning pederastia, hooramise, kommunistide ja harimatuse vastased
et vahest inimesed ajavad suures propakanda tuhinas, Juudid ja kommunistid sassi,
ainult selle tõttu, et pea kõik kommunistide juhtorganid olid kunagiste Juudi sugemetega bioloogiliselt. Etteplaneeritult, Rooma impeeriumi-tulnarite poolt.
Tuleb tegelikuses olla..
Juute tuleb vaadata Reaalselt, vaimselt,
juutide sydamik on kommunistide vastane ja kommunistide suurim vastane, kes kunagi olnud on, on Juut, peale šamaanide ja Eestlaste
et vahest inimesed ajavad suures propakanda tuhinas, Juudid ja kommunistid sassi,
ainult selle tõttu, et pea kõik kommunistide juhtorganid olid kunagiste Juudi sugemetega bioloogiliselt. Etteplaneeritult, Rooma impeeriumi-tulnarite poolt.
Tuleb tegelikuses olla..
Juute tuleb vaadata Reaalselt, vaimselt,
juutide sydamik on kommunistide vastane ja kommunistide suurim vastane, kes kunagi olnud on, on Juut, peale šamaanide ja Eestlaste
2 October 2017 17:16
Margus Meigo replied to Maarja Hiiekivi's comment.
et kui see eelnev kõik pool meeetrit kõrvale jätta,
et mis ta teinud ja ütelnud on. Reaalselt, möödetavat
arvesse võta tema ütlust, et:
" Me ootame teistelt mõistmist, mõistmata ausalt iseennast ja ette kujutamata teiste reaktsioone, vaatepunkte ja väärtusi. Eesti riigi selge ja arusaadava ajaloonägemuse ja tulevikusõnumi puudumine nii oma rahvale kui maailmale on muutunud viimaste sündmuste käigus piinlikult läbinähtavaks. Kurvalt sümboolne on luuletajast rahvastikuministri juhtimisel sõnastatud rahvusvahelise teavituskampaania pealkiri "Unustatud rahvad". Selmet vaba rahvana vastu võtta avatud maailma uusi väljakutseid, tegeleme uute müütide loomisega, mis jagavad maailma must-valgete skeemide järgi "omaks" ja "võõraks" ning toidavad eesti rahva hinges sügavalt juurdunud allasurutud ohvri mentaliteeti."
et mis ta teinud ja ütelnud on. Reaalselt, möödetavat
arvesse võta tema ütlust, et:
" Me ootame teistelt mõistmist, mõistmata ausalt iseennast ja ette kujutamata teiste reaktsioone, vaatepunkte ja väärtusi. Eesti riigi selge ja arusaadava ajaloonägemuse ja tulevikusõnumi puudumine nii oma rahvale kui maailmale on muutunud viimaste sündmuste käigus piinlikult läbinähtavaks. Kurvalt sümboolne on luuletajast rahvastikuministri juhtimisel sõnastatud rahvusvahelise teavituskampaania pealkiri "Unustatud rahvad". Selmet vaba rahvana vastu võtta avatud maailma uusi väljakutseid, tegeleme uute müütide loomisega, mis jagavad maailma must-valgete skeemide järgi "omaks" ja "võõraks" ning toidavad eesti rahva hinges sügavalt juurdunud allasurutud ohvri mentaliteeti."
2 October 2017 17:13
Margus Meigo replied to Maarja Hiiekivi's comment.
Ema ka pole pabulatelt riisutud:
"Astus 1920 Eestimaa Töörahva Parteisse. Sellest ajast arvestatakse tema kuulumist Nõukogude Liidu Kommunistlikusse parteisse (NLKP). Mõisteti 149 protsessil (10.–27. novembrini 1924) eluks ajaks sunnitööle. Vabanes 1938. aasta amnestiaseadusega.
Aastal 1940 töötas ta Rahva Hääle toimetuses ja Eestimaa Kommunistliku (bolševike) Partei Keskkomitee naistööinstruktorina, 1941 Eesti NSV Kirjandus- ja Kirjastusasjade Peavalitsuse ülemana. Sel ametikohal andis ta korralduse tuhandete okupatsioonivõimudele sobimatute eestikeelsete raamatute hävitamiseks.
Aastatel 1941–1944 töötas ta Üleliidulises Raadios ja Võõrkeelse Kirjanduse Kirjastuses eesti toimetuse juhatajana. 1944–1947 oli ta Eesti NSV sotsiaalkindlustuse minister ja 1947–1951 Eesti NSV kinematograafia minister.
Küüditatute Valve Kivi, Elvi Sukku ja Ella Gitali ütluste kohaselt osales ta märtsiküüditamise läbiviimises Hiiumaal.[2][3][4]. Olga Lauristini tütar Marju Lauristin on enda sõnul pöördunud Kaitsepolitsei poole palvega uurida tema ema võimalikku osalust küüditamises ning "sai eitava vastuse".[3] Olga Lauristini tegevust märtsiküüditamise ajal tema elu jooksul kriminaalkorras ei uuritud.[viide?]
Seoses abikaasa Hendrik Alliku arreteerimisega heideti 1952 NLKP-st välja; 1953. aastal liikmesus taastati.
Aastatel 1956–1961 oli ta Välismaaga Sõpruse ja Kultuurisidemete Arendamise Eesti Ühingu Presiidiumi esimees ja 1961–1989 Rahufondi Eesti osakonna esimees.
ja siis veel, et:
" abielus Hendrik Allikuga. Sellest abielust sündis 8. oktoobril 1946 poeg Jaak Allik, poliitik ja teatritegelane, kelle poeg Mihkel Allik on olnud Eesti õiguskantsleri nõunik
Ta oli Eesti Vasakpartei kõige vanem liige.
"Astus 1920 Eestimaa Töörahva Parteisse. Sellest ajast arvestatakse tema kuulumist Nõukogude Liidu Kommunistlikusse parteisse (NLKP). Mõisteti 149 protsessil (10.–27. novembrini 1924) eluks ajaks sunnitööle. Vabanes 1938. aasta amnestiaseadusega.
Aastal 1940 töötas ta Rahva Hääle toimetuses ja Eestimaa Kommunistliku (bolševike) Partei Keskkomitee naistööinstruktorina, 1941 Eesti NSV Kirjandus- ja Kirjastusasjade Peavalitsuse ülemana. Sel ametikohal andis ta korralduse tuhandete okupatsioonivõimudele sobimatute eestikeelsete raamatute hävitamiseks.
Aastatel 1941–1944 töötas ta Üleliidulises Raadios ja Võõrkeelse Kirjanduse Kirjastuses eesti toimetuse juhatajana. 1944–1947 oli ta Eesti NSV sotsiaalkindlustuse minister ja 1947–1951 Eesti NSV kinematograafia minister.
Küüditatute Valve Kivi, Elvi Sukku ja Ella Gitali ütluste kohaselt osales ta märtsiküüditamise läbiviimises Hiiumaal.[2][3][4]. Olga Lauristini tütar Marju Lauristin on enda sõnul pöördunud Kaitsepolitsei poole palvega uurida tema ema võimalikku osalust küüditamises ning "sai eitava vastuse".[3] Olga Lauristini tegevust märtsiküüditamise ajal tema elu jooksul kriminaalkorras ei uuritud.[viide?]
Seoses abikaasa Hendrik Alliku arreteerimisega heideti 1952 NLKP-st välja; 1953. aastal liikmesus taastati.
Aastatel 1956–1961 oli ta Välismaaga Sõpruse ja Kultuurisidemete Arendamise Eesti Ühingu Presiidiumi esimees ja 1961–1989 Rahufondi Eesti osakonna esimees.
ja siis veel, et:
" abielus Hendrik Allikuga. Sellest abielust sündis 8. oktoobril 1946 poeg Jaak Allik, poliitik ja teatritegelane, kelle poeg Mihkel Allik on olnud Eesti õiguskantsleri nõunik
Ta oli Eesti Vasakpartei kõige vanem liige.
2 October 2017 17:09
Margus Meigo replied to Maarja Hiiekivi's comment.
okey isal tal tõsine CV:
" Johannes Lauristin oli Eestis illegaalse kommunistliku liikumise aktivist aastatel 1922–1923, sadamatööl Tallinnas ja ajalehe Tallinna Tööline toimetaja, Eestimaa Kommunistliku Noorsooühingu (EKNÜ) illegaalse häälekandja, ajalehe Noor Tööline toimetaja aastal 1922/1923–1933, Eestimaa Kommunistliku Partei KK liige aastail 1922–1924, Eestimaa Kommunistliku Noorsooühingu KK liige, Eestimaa Töölisühingute Üldliidu kesknõukogu liige.
1923. aastal valiti ta Riigikogusse. Sel ajal oli Eestimaa Kommunistlik Partei Eestis keelatud, kuna kuulutas avalikult kavatsust muuta kehtivat riigikorda. Lauristin pidi oma kommunistliku suunitlusega riigivastase tegevuse eest kandma mitu korda vanglakaristust: 149 protsessi kohtuotsuse põhjal aastatel 1923–1931 (karistus: seitse aastat sunnitööd) ja 34 protsessi kohtuotsuse põhjal 1932–1938 (kuus aastat sunnitööd, vabanes amnestiaga).
Pärast vabanemist kinnipidamiskohast amnestia alusel oli ta aastatel 1938–1940 (koos Hendrik Alliku, Peeter Petree (Pedrae), Hermann Arboni, Paul Keerdo, Oskar Seprega) EKP illegaalse büroo liige ning 1940. aasta riigipöörde ajal infokeskuse juhataja (21. juuni – 21. juuli 1940).
--
Veel et,
" Johannes Lauristin teenis aastatel 1919–1922 Eesti Vabariigi sõjaväes. Vabadussõjas oli ta 1. diviisi tagavarapolgu kirjutaja.
" Johannes Lauristin oli Eestis illegaalse kommunistliku liikumise aktivist aastatel 1922–1923, sadamatööl Tallinnas ja ajalehe Tallinna Tööline toimetaja, Eestimaa Kommunistliku Noorsooühingu (EKNÜ) illegaalse häälekandja, ajalehe Noor Tööline toimetaja aastal 1922/1923–1933, Eestimaa Kommunistliku Partei KK liige aastail 1922–1924, Eestimaa Kommunistliku Noorsooühingu KK liige, Eestimaa Töölisühingute Üldliidu kesknõukogu liige.
1923. aastal valiti ta Riigikogusse. Sel ajal oli Eestimaa Kommunistlik Partei Eestis keelatud, kuna kuulutas avalikult kavatsust muuta kehtivat riigikorda. Lauristin pidi oma kommunistliku suunitlusega riigivastase tegevuse eest kandma mitu korda vanglakaristust: 149 protsessi kohtuotsuse põhjal aastatel 1923–1931 (karistus: seitse aastat sunnitööd) ja 34 protsessi kohtuotsuse põhjal 1932–1938 (kuus aastat sunnitööd, vabanes amnestiaga).
Pärast vabanemist kinnipidamiskohast amnestia alusel oli ta aastatel 1938–1940 (koos Hendrik Alliku, Peeter Petree (Pedrae), Hermann Arboni, Paul Keerdo, Oskar Seprega) EKP illegaalse büroo liige ning 1940. aasta riigipöörde ajal infokeskuse juhataja (21. juuni – 21. juuli 1940).
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Veel et,
" Johannes Lauristin teenis aastatel 1919–1922 Eesti Vabariigi sõjaväes. Vabadussõjas oli ta 1. diviisi tagavarapolgu kirjutaja.
2 October 2017 17:03
Margus Meigo replied to Ervin Karukell's comment.
kui saad laiendada vastust, siis vasta ka Maarja Hiiekivi kommentaari alla, koguks põhjuseid ja arvamusi, tõestusi
2 October 2017 16:55
Margus Meigo replied to Feliks Heinsalu's comment.
vasta Maarja Hiiekivi kommentaari alla, siis saaks ühte kohta põhjuseid koguda
2 October 2017 16:54
Margus Meigo replied to Vahur Armastuse Kahur's comment.
saad vastata Maarja Hiiekivi kommentaari alla, koguks kokku midagi asjalikku
2 October 2017 16:53
Margus Meigo replied to Maarja Hiiekivi's comment.
Kristlane või satanist?
2 October 2017 16:53
Margus Meigo replied to Maarja Hiiekivi's comment.
reaalsed asjad ja reaalsed teod lisaks jutule, mitte "tema punt tegi seda seega tema ka selline"
Edgar Savisaarele ta meeldis või ei?
Tal meeldib ameerika või vene pool ja mis tõestustel?
Edgar Savisaarele ta meeldis või ei?
Tal meeldib ameerika või vene pool ja mis tõestustel?
2 October 2017 16:51
Margus Meigo replied to Maarja Hiiekivi's comment.
Ma teisest ajast tulnud, ehk võtate kiirelt kokku, mida saab olnud üks Naine nii hullu teinud, et selliseid sõnu väärida
2 October 2017 16:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Taavi Timm oh sind rõõmurully,
kuidas see teemas on :)
kuidas see teemas on :)
2 October 2017 16:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Päris karmid Lauristini vastased sõnavõtud kommenteerides,
ei ole päris kindel kas see kõik adekvaatne reaktsioon on, kuid kas keegi selle EP artikli sisu saak siia kopeerida, siis vaataks ka mis teiste sõnades siis nii kollitavat järsku on, või on kommenteeriad palgatud.
See suur, et ta muidu päris tark Naine peaks olema ju, on ikka Eesti meelne ju?
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/lp/marju-lauristin-pean-positiivset-rahvuslust-sama-oluliseks-kui-isiklikku-armastust?id=79660286&com=1®=1&no=0&s=1
ei ole päris kindel kas see kõik adekvaatne reaktsioon on, kuid kas keegi selle EP artikli sisu saak siia kopeerida, siis vaataks ka mis teiste sõnades siis nii kollitavat järsku on, või on kommenteeriad palgatud.
See suur, et ta muidu päris tark Naine peaks olema ju, on ikka Eesti meelne ju?
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/lp/marju-lauristin-pean-positiivset-rahvuslust-sama-oluliseks-kui-isiklikku-armastust?id=79660286&com=1®=1&no=0&s=1
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/lp/marju-lauristin-pean-positiivset-rahvuslust-sama-oluliseks-kui-isiklikku-armastust?id=79660286&com=1®=1&no=0&s=1
2 October 2017 16:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
too confident maybe
1 October 2017 00:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in 1984 way
1 October 2017 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on Alla Romanovsky's post.
I thought, software' at first
1 October 2017 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Allar Kaljundi Siin meiegi vaateid sees
1 October 2017 00:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"How important did Rudolf Steiner consider eurythmy to be?
"Eurythmy is obligatory.
The children must participate.
Those who do not participate in eurythmy
will be removed from the school."
— Rudolf Steiner,
FACULTY MEETINGS WITH RUDOLF STEINER
(Anthroposophic Press, 1998), p. 65."
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“I have heard so much gossip about
who got a slap and so forth ...
We should be quiet about how we
handle things in the school ...
We should not speak to people
outside the school....”
— Rudolf Steiner [1]
"Eurythmy is obligatory.
The children must participate.
Those who do not participate in eurythmy
will be removed from the school."
— Rudolf Steiner,
FACULTY MEETINGS WITH RUDOLF STEINER
(Anthroposophic Press, 1998), p. 65."
----
“I have heard so much gossip about
who got a slap and so forth ...
We should be quiet about how we
handle things in the school ...
We should not speak to people
outside the school....”
— Rudolf Steiner [1]
26 September 2017 17:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eurythmy (pronounced yur-ITH-me) is a form of mystical dancing performed by Anthroposophists and by students in Waldorf schools.
Here are a number of intriguing statements about eurythmy. Some were made by Rudolf Steiner; others were made by Anthroposophical editors; and one was made by Rudolf Steiner's second wife, Marie Steiner. They are taken from EURYTHMY AS VISIBLE SPEECH (Rudolf Steiner Press, 1984). I am indebted to Maura Kwaten for pulling the quotations together.
— Roger Rawlings
[What It Is] "[E]urythmy is actually a visible speech." — p. 23.
[Our Bodies Are Created by Divine Eurythmy] "The human form is the result of divine eurythmy. Every art may be traced back to its divine source: but because eurythmy makes use of the human being as its instrument it enables us to see most deeply into the connection between the human being and the universe." — p. 13 - lecture synopsis.
[The Zodiac and Planets] "[W]e pass over to movements representing the possibilities of inner activity, movements which have their origin in the planets. In their sevenfold nature we have synthesized the animal element in man. The nineteen possibilities of sound: the consonants have their source in the Zodiac; the vowels in the dance of the planets. A cosmic activity may be brought to expression by means of human gesture and movement. The word of the heavens is really the being of man. By means of an imitation of the dance of the stars, discovered through spiritual knowledge, we have the possibility of renewing in eurythmy the temple dancing of ancient Mysteries." — p. 18 - lecture synopsis.
[The Zodiac and Planets] "Exercises based on the moving circles of the Zodiac and Planets and their corresponding spiritual gestures. Such exercises bring the eurythmic movements and postures right down into the organism." — p.18 - lecture synopsis.
[Body and Soul] "The soul must learn, as far as eurythmy is concerned, actually to live in the body. In eurythmy the whole body must become soul." — p. 20 - lecture synopsis.
[Clairvoyance, Color] "The experience of colour was natural to humanity in the days of old clairvoyance, but has since been lost ... In the same way every human being has his own particular colour. This colour is of course closely connected with the astral body, which, as we know, changes with every varying emotion." — p.113.
[Lucifer and Ahriman] "It is deeply interesting to consider such things, for in the breath sounds what really comes to expression is this: I will have nothing to do with Lucifer: everything which is Luciferic must disappear. — And the consonants of force express this feeling: I will hold fast to Ahriman, for if he escapes me he will poison everything: he must be held fast. — Thus the influence of Lucifer and of Ahriman has been implanted into these sounds." — p. 119.
[Magic Cures] "Now this exercise is most excellent in the teaching of eurythmy from an educational point of view. Indeed, when one has observed in a child the tendency towards jealousy and ambition — qualities which one wishes to eliminate — one must persuade such a child to do this exercise with special warmth and ardour ... It can also be said that this dance is a remedy against jealousy and false ambition." — p. 190.
[Magic Cures] "In curative education, this first spiral exercise is specially applicable to children who are the reverse of anaemic, and it can be applied to combat undue egoism." — p. 200.
[Magic Cures] "But if you form two groups — the one group of choleric, the other group of phlegmatic children — and make both these groups run the spiral forms, and in such a way that the children must constantly look into each other's eyes, then they will mutually correct each other." — p. 202.
[Body and Soul] "Yet another thing must be born in mind, and that is the fact that the learning of eurythmy entails an actual transformation of the human organism. Any performance which reveals the slightest trace of struggle between body and soul must be looked upon as unfinished and imperfect. In a eurythmy performance the whole body must have become soul." — p. 238.
[Promoting Anthroposophy] "If we can feel ourselves as helpers of eurythmy, either in an active or in a more passive sense, then eurythmy will be able to fulfill the mission which it can and should fulfill in the general development of Anthroposophy ... [L]et us build up and develop each separate activity as it should and will be developed if we prove ourselves worthy of the real aims of Anthroposophy." — p. 241.
[Racism, Technology, Stars] "If we allow ourselves to receive this aid, we shall be in the position to open ourselves to the spirit in every sphere of activity — in that sphere also which this book illumines with spiritual revelation and human knowledge. Then we shall no longer need to stimulate our slackened nerves by means of decadent negro dances which are hammered into us by machinery, turning us into machines and gradually killing out our finest human qualities: but we shall gain an understanding for a noble art of movement, having its source in the spirit, an art of movement which is the reflection of the Dance of the Stars, and which makes the language of the stars sound visibly within us in purity and truth." — p. 253 - Marie Steiner.
— Compilation by Maura Kwaten
https://sites.google.com/site/waldorfwatch/eurythmy
Here are a number of intriguing statements about eurythmy. Some were made by Rudolf Steiner; others were made by Anthroposophical editors; and one was made by Rudolf Steiner's second wife, Marie Steiner. They are taken from EURYTHMY AS VISIBLE SPEECH (Rudolf Steiner Press, 1984). I am indebted to Maura Kwaten for pulling the quotations together.
— Roger Rawlings
[What It Is] "[E]urythmy is actually a visible speech." — p. 23.
[Our Bodies Are Created by Divine Eurythmy] "The human form is the result of divine eurythmy. Every art may be traced back to its divine source: but because eurythmy makes use of the human being as its instrument it enables us to see most deeply into the connection between the human being and the universe." — p. 13 - lecture synopsis.
[The Zodiac and Planets] "[W]e pass over to movements representing the possibilities of inner activity, movements which have their origin in the planets. In their sevenfold nature we have synthesized the animal element in man. The nineteen possibilities of sound: the consonants have their source in the Zodiac; the vowels in the dance of the planets. A cosmic activity may be brought to expression by means of human gesture and movement. The word of the heavens is really the being of man. By means of an imitation of the dance of the stars, discovered through spiritual knowledge, we have the possibility of renewing in eurythmy the temple dancing of ancient Mysteries." — p. 18 - lecture synopsis.
[The Zodiac and Planets] "Exercises based on the moving circles of the Zodiac and Planets and their corresponding spiritual gestures. Such exercises bring the eurythmic movements and postures right down into the organism." — p.18 - lecture synopsis.
[Body and Soul] "The soul must learn, as far as eurythmy is concerned, actually to live in the body. In eurythmy the whole body must become soul." — p. 20 - lecture synopsis.
[Clairvoyance, Color] "The experience of colour was natural to humanity in the days of old clairvoyance, but has since been lost ... In the same way every human being has his own particular colour. This colour is of course closely connected with the astral body, which, as we know, changes with every varying emotion." — p.113.
[Lucifer and Ahriman] "It is deeply interesting to consider such things, for in the breath sounds what really comes to expression is this: I will have nothing to do with Lucifer: everything which is Luciferic must disappear. — And the consonants of force express this feeling: I will hold fast to Ahriman, for if he escapes me he will poison everything: he must be held fast. — Thus the influence of Lucifer and of Ahriman has been implanted into these sounds." — p. 119.
[Magic Cures] "Now this exercise is most excellent in the teaching of eurythmy from an educational point of view. Indeed, when one has observed in a child the tendency towards jealousy and ambition — qualities which one wishes to eliminate — one must persuade such a child to do this exercise with special warmth and ardour ... It can also be said that this dance is a remedy against jealousy and false ambition." — p. 190.
[Magic Cures] "In curative education, this first spiral exercise is specially applicable to children who are the reverse of anaemic, and it can be applied to combat undue egoism." — p. 200.
[Magic Cures] "But if you form two groups — the one group of choleric, the other group of phlegmatic children — and make both these groups run the spiral forms, and in such a way that the children must constantly look into each other's eyes, then they will mutually correct each other." — p. 202.
[Body and Soul] "Yet another thing must be born in mind, and that is the fact that the learning of eurythmy entails an actual transformation of the human organism. Any performance which reveals the slightest trace of struggle between body and soul must be looked upon as unfinished and imperfect. In a eurythmy performance the whole body must have become soul." — p. 238.
[Promoting Anthroposophy] "If we can feel ourselves as helpers of eurythmy, either in an active or in a more passive sense, then eurythmy will be able to fulfill the mission which it can and should fulfill in the general development of Anthroposophy ... [L]et us build up and develop each separate activity as it should and will be developed if we prove ourselves worthy of the real aims of Anthroposophy." — p. 241.
[Racism, Technology, Stars] "If we allow ourselves to receive this aid, we shall be in the position to open ourselves to the spirit in every sphere of activity — in that sphere also which this book illumines with spiritual revelation and human knowledge. Then we shall no longer need to stimulate our slackened nerves by means of decadent negro dances which are hammered into us by machinery, turning us into machines and gradually killing out our finest human qualities: but we shall gain an understanding for a noble art of movement, having its source in the spirit, an art of movement which is the reflection of the Dance of the Stars, and which makes the language of the stars sound visibly within us in purity and truth." — p. 253 - Marie Steiner.
— Compilation by Maura Kwaten
https://sites.google.com/site/waldorfwatch/eurythmy
https://sites.google.com/site/waldorfwatch/eurythmy
26 September 2017 17:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
A PARENT’S GUIDE TO WALDORF DANGERS
// sometimes, promoting danger, makes it just look more normal .. in around around..
https://sites.google.com/site/waldorfwatch/advice-for-parents
// sometimes, promoting danger, makes it just look more normal .. in around around..
https://sites.google.com/site/waldorfwatch/advice-for-parents
https://sites.google.com/site/waldorfwatch/advice-for-parents
26 September 2017 17:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mitte eriti, aga see osa oli väike märkimisväärt:
et kaks jessust,
"Presented in anthroposophy is NOT entirely the Christ of the Bible, he’s a different Jesus. That being said, anthroposophy is part of what pointed me to Christ. In fact, if you delve deeper into anthroposophical teachings and interpretations of the Bible, you will find many frightening, and indeed heretical interpretations of the Bible. The most frightening perhaps are some anthroposophical interpretations of the Gospels that claim that there were two Jesus infants, and that the Bible does in fact support the Eastern philosophy of reincarnation.
"
http://quiverfullfamily.com/2008/04/15/waldorf-education-is-it-christian/
et kaks jessust,
"Presented in anthroposophy is NOT entirely the Christ of the Bible, he’s a different Jesus. That being said, anthroposophy is part of what pointed me to Christ. In fact, if you delve deeper into anthroposophical teachings and interpretations of the Bible, you will find many frightening, and indeed heretical interpretations of the Bible. The most frightening perhaps are some anthroposophical interpretations of the Gospels that claim that there were two Jesus infants, and that the Bible does in fact support the Eastern philosophy of reincarnation.
"
http://quiverfullfamily.com/2008/04/15/waldorf-education-is-it-christian/
http://quiverfullfamily.com/2008/04/15/waldorf-education-is-it-christian/
26 September 2017 17:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Pro Waldrof:
""PLANS" is a small anti-waldorf fringe group in San Francisco, that since a number of years publishes a disinformational site on Waldorf education on the net, that it calls "waldorfcritics". The last years up to the beginning of 2005, and then again during the first half of 2006 it advertised its site widely on the Internet, using sponsored ads from Overture, and the group also advertised at Google, with deceptive ads adjusted to the more loose policies of Google than earlier, with regard to its demands on advertisers. "
http://www.thebee.se/comments/plans1.html
http://www.americans4waldorf.org/Myths.html
""PLANS" is a small anti-waldorf fringe group in San Francisco, that since a number of years publishes a disinformational site on Waldorf education on the net, that it calls "waldorfcritics". The last years up to the beginning of 2005, and then again during the first half of 2006 it advertised its site widely on the Internet, using sponsored ads from Overture, and the group also advertised at Google, with deceptive ads adjusted to the more loose policies of Google than earlier, with regard to its demands on advertisers. "
http://www.thebee.se/comments/plans1.html
http://www.americans4waldorf.org/Myths.html
26 September 2017 17:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
!" The American concerns go further. In the PLANS Web site, which draws about 30 posts a day, are extracts from pro-apartheid material written by South African Anthroposophists in the 1980s, and passages that PLANS claims are from recent Waldorf teacher training manuals in the United States, including: “When it was time for Zarathustra to leave the Earth, he climbed the mountain…. As he turned to look back at the Earth, he had a vision of things to happen in the future. He saw the Aryan peoples marching on victoriously towards the west.”
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O Maoileoin recalls with fondness the spiritual rituals of his early Waldorf years, including the group blessings of fresh fruit; the staring at tree roots for gnomes; and his school’s prohibition against black clothing or black crayons in the early years. O Maoileoin is particularly grateful for learning that “there is credibility to less popular beliefs,” and he also appreciates his lessons on native American culture, Norse mythology, Egyptian history and the stories of the Bible.
As with many Waldorf parents, O Maoileoin’s parents were not ones to embrace a wholly conventional belief system. When they decided to send their son to Waldorf 16 years ago, they were both practicing transcendental meditation. Since then O Maoileoin’s mother has worked as a professional astrologist. As a child, O Maoileoin was taught about telekinesis and astral travel.
While a teenager at Waldorf, O Maoileoin spent six years practicing Wicca (modern witchcraft), after which he said he became an agnostic and then an atheist. As with many of his classmates, O Maoileoin rejected Steiner and Anthroposophy as a teen, although now he is a follower. Recently, O Maoileoin also converted to Catholicism.
After graduating from Waldorf, O Maoileoin studied linguistics at a local college, and has read Rudolf Steiner’s works on Anthroposophy extensively. On charges that Steiner was racist, O Maoileoin echoes Toronto Waldorf parent Ernst Von Bezold by claiming he was never taught anything racist at his Waldorf school and the critics misunderstand Steiner. (On a personal level, O Maoileoin conveys sincerity in his conviction that the white race is “definitely not” superior to any other, and that “all races have a lot to learn from each other.”)
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/1213/gnomes-and-critics-at-waldorf-schools
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"
O Maoileoin recalls with fondness the spiritual rituals of his early Waldorf years, including the group blessings of fresh fruit; the staring at tree roots for gnomes; and his school’s prohibition against black clothing or black crayons in the early years. O Maoileoin is particularly grateful for learning that “there is credibility to less popular beliefs,” and he also appreciates his lessons on native American culture, Norse mythology, Egyptian history and the stories of the Bible.
As with many Waldorf parents, O Maoileoin’s parents were not ones to embrace a wholly conventional belief system. When they decided to send their son to Waldorf 16 years ago, they were both practicing transcendental meditation. Since then O Maoileoin’s mother has worked as a professional astrologist. As a child, O Maoileoin was taught about telekinesis and astral travel.
While a teenager at Waldorf, O Maoileoin spent six years practicing Wicca (modern witchcraft), after which he said he became an agnostic and then an atheist. As with many of his classmates, O Maoileoin rejected Steiner and Anthroposophy as a teen, although now he is a follower. Recently, O Maoileoin also converted to Catholicism.
After graduating from Waldorf, O Maoileoin studied linguistics at a local college, and has read Rudolf Steiner’s works on Anthroposophy extensively. On charges that Steiner was racist, O Maoileoin echoes Toronto Waldorf parent Ernst Von Bezold by claiming he was never taught anything racist at his Waldorf school and the critics misunderstand Steiner. (On a personal level, O Maoileoin conveys sincerity in his conviction that the white race is “definitely not” superior to any other, and that “all races have a lot to learn from each other.”)
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/1213/gnomes-and-critics-at-waldorf-schools
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/1213/gnomes-and-critics-at-waldorf-schools
26 September 2017 17:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// miks nii vähe? VÄGA hea valik häid, olulisi linke, kokkuvõtteid
http://www.waldorfcritics.org/articles.html#Anthro
http://www.waldorfcritics.org/articles.html#Anthro
http://www.waldorfcritics.org/articles.html#Anthro
26 September 2017 17:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
waldorfcritics.org:
http://www.waldorfcritics.org/articles/lombard.html
"
"Noah had three sons, Shem, Ham and Japhet... Ham means "the dark one"..Japhet means "the beautiful." The Greek and Nordic peoples are the Japhetites, bearing new spiritual impulses." (p. 23)
No wonder Greek and Norse myths are so important. Was not Odin an Aryan god?
However, apart from revealing who will be top in the new world order, the Nordic myths also benefit pupils esoterically. Evidently, the hexameter meter present in these myths is believed to balance breath with the heart rhythm, balancing pupils between the forces of gravity and levity.
The duality of dark and light is emphasized over and over in the curriculum due to Steiner's adoption of the ancient Persian Zoroastrian religious concept of two gods, dark and light, whose conflict creates the world. Steiner identified Lucifer as the god of light who inspires art, reviving the Gnostic belief of Jehovah as villain and Lucifer as hero and revealer of sacred mysteries. In the form of a serpent, Lucifer had brought enlightenment when God denied the first couple the fruit of the tree of knowledge to keep them ignorant. On the dark side, Ahriman is Steiner's devil. I have uncovered the interesting fact that a group of Gnostic's called Luciferans first appeared in the 14th century in Steiner's homeland, Austria. I have a hunch that they are still present today in Anthroposophy and the Waldorf curriculum. (Steiner was also heavily influenced by Rosicrucianism, a secret society of the 17th and 18th century whose members claimed various occult lore and power.)
We are not alone in our move to Wisconsin in search of a progressive education. While some are absorbed into the Waldorf community, others like ourselves sense a strange undercurrent and remove themselves from the school. I cannot put into words my sense of loss, regret, and humiliation, for subjecting my daughter to such arrant nonsense. I had not only placed her in the exact opposite of what I had intended, but unknowingly, had helped fund and propagate a religious, secret society. Ironically, reading Steiner has empowered me. I am very confident that I do not want to be associated with Anthroposophy. Society should not endure the public funding of Anthroposophy. Waldorf schools must be honest to prospective parents, acknowledging that they are institutions of spiritual science. And my daughter? She is happy, thriving socially and academically, at the local public school.
http://www.waldorfcritics.org/articles/lombard.html
"
"Noah had three sons, Shem, Ham and Japhet... Ham means "the dark one"..Japhet means "the beautiful." The Greek and Nordic peoples are the Japhetites, bearing new spiritual impulses." (p. 23)
No wonder Greek and Norse myths are so important. Was not Odin an Aryan god?
However, apart from revealing who will be top in the new world order, the Nordic myths also benefit pupils esoterically. Evidently, the hexameter meter present in these myths is believed to balance breath with the heart rhythm, balancing pupils between the forces of gravity and levity.
The duality of dark and light is emphasized over and over in the curriculum due to Steiner's adoption of the ancient Persian Zoroastrian religious concept of two gods, dark and light, whose conflict creates the world. Steiner identified Lucifer as the god of light who inspires art, reviving the Gnostic belief of Jehovah as villain and Lucifer as hero and revealer of sacred mysteries. In the form of a serpent, Lucifer had brought enlightenment when God denied the first couple the fruit of the tree of knowledge to keep them ignorant. On the dark side, Ahriman is Steiner's devil. I have uncovered the interesting fact that a group of Gnostic's called Luciferans first appeared in the 14th century in Steiner's homeland, Austria. I have a hunch that they are still present today in Anthroposophy and the Waldorf curriculum. (Steiner was also heavily influenced by Rosicrucianism, a secret society of the 17th and 18th century whose members claimed various occult lore and power.)
We are not alone in our move to Wisconsin in search of a progressive education. While some are absorbed into the Waldorf community, others like ourselves sense a strange undercurrent and remove themselves from the school. I cannot put into words my sense of loss, regret, and humiliation, for subjecting my daughter to such arrant nonsense. I had not only placed her in the exact opposite of what I had intended, but unknowingly, had helped fund and propagate a religious, secret society. Ironically, reading Steiner has empowered me. I am very confident that I do not want to be associated with Anthroposophy. Society should not endure the public funding of Anthroposophy. Waldorf schools must be honest to prospective parents, acknowledging that they are institutions of spiritual science. And my daughter? She is happy, thriving socially and academically, at the local public school.
http://waldorfcritics.org/
26 September 2017 17:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
huvitav:
"
In 2001, a meta editor at the large search portal DMOZ, Open Directory Project, decided, after reviewing the PLANS web site, to remove it from the "Waldorf theory" category at DMOZ. PLANS simply did not qualify as an informational site on Waldorf education as judged by the standards of DMOZ.
Similar judgments of the site have apparently been made by two of the major search engines on the net; Google and Altavista. Both of them have dropped PLANS as an "informational" source on Waldorf education and anthroposophy.
In 2002, Google removed the PLANS site from the "Waldorf organizations" category in its web directory, and Google AdWords canceled an ad from the group.
In 2003, Altavista, after a similar review of the PLANS site, decided to take the drastic step of removing all direct links from its web index. It also notified Overture.com that it did not want to publish the sponsored ads it provided for PLANS.
Overture, notified that Altavista was unwilling to publish these ads, stopped publishing them but then started again when PLANS signed up once more for them. At this point the legal office of Altavista simply refused all ads from Overture for searches on "waldorf", "waldorf education", and "Rudolf Steiner", regardless of their origin, to get rid of the ads for PLANS.
The PLANS site has started to turn up at Altavista again due to the automatic indexing process, but Altavista is not accepting ads from Overture for the searches mentioned above.
As of February 2005, Overture has quit publishing ads for the group. "
http://www.americans4waldorf.org/History.html
"
Americans for Waldorf Education (AWE) does not take issue with those individuals who've had unhappy experiences with Waldorf education, nor do we object to PLANS for publishing or collecting their stories. We don't seek to invalidate or excuse any allegations of misconduct by any school or educator. Unhappily, problems can arise within a Waldorf school, as they can in any school system.
There are nearly 900 schools worldwide in the eighty year-old Waldorf movement, and there have been tens of thousands of teachers. Though PLANS promises to “make available every criticism we can find”, they have managed over the years to collect few first-hand accounts of misconduct arising at a Waldorf school. That there are any such cases is regrettable and certainly none should be tolerated at all. But such scant and scattered reports do not suggest that the problems are chronic or pervasive throughout the entire movement.
// Viljandi Waldorf koolide piinamise näited jms
"
In 2001, a meta editor at the large search portal DMOZ, Open Directory Project, decided, after reviewing the PLANS web site, to remove it from the "Waldorf theory" category at DMOZ. PLANS simply did not qualify as an informational site on Waldorf education as judged by the standards of DMOZ.
Similar judgments of the site have apparently been made by two of the major search engines on the net; Google and Altavista. Both of them have dropped PLANS as an "informational" source on Waldorf education and anthroposophy.
In 2002, Google removed the PLANS site from the "Waldorf organizations" category in its web directory, and Google AdWords canceled an ad from the group.
In 2003, Altavista, after a similar review of the PLANS site, decided to take the drastic step of removing all direct links from its web index. It also notified Overture.com that it did not want to publish the sponsored ads it provided for PLANS.
Overture, notified that Altavista was unwilling to publish these ads, stopped publishing them but then started again when PLANS signed up once more for them. At this point the legal office of Altavista simply refused all ads from Overture for searches on "waldorf", "waldorf education", and "Rudolf Steiner", regardless of their origin, to get rid of the ads for PLANS.
The PLANS site has started to turn up at Altavista again due to the automatic indexing process, but Altavista is not accepting ads from Overture for the searches mentioned above.
As of February 2005, Overture has quit publishing ads for the group. "
http://www.americans4waldorf.org/History.html
"
Americans for Waldorf Education (AWE) does not take issue with those individuals who've had unhappy experiences with Waldorf education, nor do we object to PLANS for publishing or collecting their stories. We don't seek to invalidate or excuse any allegations of misconduct by any school or educator. Unhappily, problems can arise within a Waldorf school, as they can in any school system.
There are nearly 900 schools worldwide in the eighty year-old Waldorf movement, and there have been tens of thousands of teachers. Though PLANS promises to “make available every criticism we can find”, they have managed over the years to collect few first-hand accounts of misconduct arising at a Waldorf school. That there are any such cases is regrettable and certainly none should be tolerated at all. But such scant and scattered reports do not suggest that the problems are chronic or pervasive throughout the entire movement.
// Viljandi Waldorf koolide piinamise näited jms
http://overture.com/
26 September 2017 17:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Nearer the bottom of the spiritual hierarchy we can find animals such as fish and reptiles. Those animals with good karma will progress to become apes, Indians and finally Aryans – white and fair Germanic-Nordic humans.
Steiner’s cosmology is inherently racist and abhorrent. Black people are spiritually childish. Jews should simply ‘disappear’. Disabled people somehow must have wanted to be disabled though actions in previous lives.
Steiner viewed the purpose of Anthroposophy was to prevent the human race from degenerating towards a black-brown “denseness”.
In time, however, blondness will disappear because the human race is becoming weaker. In the end, only brown- and black-haired people will be able to survive if nothing is done to keep them from being bound to matter. The stronger the body’s forces, the weaker the soul’s. When fair people become extinct, the human race will face the danger of becoming dense if a spiritual science like Anthroposophy is not accepted. "
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" This secrecy was a natural extension of the esoteric and occult nature of Anthroposophy. As is necessary with esoteric organisations, how it is presented to the outside world will differ considerably from inner beliefs. Although, ostensibly, secrecy was a necessary part of the how an initiate moved through the orders of the movement in order to prepare the mind for the next level of revealed knowledge, secrecy could also be used to protect Anthroposophists from outside scrutiny and criticism, and so further their aims undetected.
Steiner’s cosmology is inherently racist and abhorrent. Black people are spiritually childish. Jews should simply ‘disappear’. Disabled people somehow must have wanted to be disabled though actions in previous lives.
Steiner viewed the purpose of Anthroposophy was to prevent the human race from degenerating towards a black-brown “denseness”.
In time, however, blondness will disappear because the human race is becoming weaker. In the end, only brown- and black-haired people will be able to survive if nothing is done to keep them from being bound to matter. The stronger the body’s forces, the weaker the soul’s. When fair people become extinct, the human race will face the danger of becoming dense if a spiritual science like Anthroposophy is not accepted. "
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" This secrecy was a natural extension of the esoteric and occult nature of Anthroposophy. As is necessary with esoteric organisations, how it is presented to the outside world will differ considerably from inner beliefs. Although, ostensibly, secrecy was a necessary part of the how an initiate moved through the orders of the movement in order to prepare the mind for the next level of revealed knowledge, secrecy could also be used to protect Anthroposophists from outside scrutiny and criticism, and so further their aims undetected.
26 September 2017 16:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// In short, as i looked it, a organized professional platform to get higher quaity body's for spirits, Soul business, maybe //
" Anthroposophy blended ideas from astrology, spiritualism, Rosicrucianism, Christian mysticism and other gnostic and esoteric sources, to create a cosmology based on Steiner’s readings of the ‘Akashic Records‘ – the cosmic history of the past and the future that exists on a spiritual plane and available to the few through meditation and clairvoyance. Thus was born Steiner’s Spiritual Science – his belief that ordinary science was really just a capability to be able to “spell”, but to be able to “read” one had to have knowledge of higher spiritual existences. Without such knowledge, we cannot fulfill our potential as fully spiritual beings.
Steiner’s visions gave him insights into all areas of human life, including farming (biodynamics), art, dance, diet, architecture, biology, history, geology, finance, and, crucially for us here, medicine and education. These insights have led to thousands of anthroposophically inspired organisations including schools, farms, cosmetic and health companies (e.g Weleda), Banks, (e.g. Triodos) and spiritual communities (e.g. Camphill, Christian Community).
In order to understand Anthroposophy and Spiritual Science, we need to understand the core and basic concepts of Steiner’s world view. Steiner saw the purpose of Anthroposophy was “spiritual advancement through karma and reincarnation, supplemented by the access to esoteric knowledge available to a privileged few.” It is worth remembering that sentence as it is absolutely vital in understanding Steiner-Waldorf Schools. We shall now look at those concepts in a bit more detail.
Steiner viewed the spiritual world to be real and populated with many nature spirits, elementals and root spirits (gnomes). Steiner believed his clairvoyant techniques were a genuine scientific approaches to studying this spiritual realm. They were extra tools, not an alternative to science. We often see Steiner followers repeating the view that Steiner philosophy embraces and extends science. Of course, the reality is that science is undermined by the insistence of the reality of nonsense. This too is important in understanding Steiner Schools.
At the heart of Anthroposophy is the belief that humans are composite beings made up of our bodies and a number of spiritual entities that can be reincarnated. Our spirits enter into bodies each lifetime in several stages as we grow. At about seven years the etheric body incarnates. This coincides with the appearance of adult teeth and gives “strength to learn”. At about fourteen years the astral body incarnates as puberty comes about. Finally, at 21 years, the I, or ego, the divine selfhood incarnates.
http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2012/11/what-every-parent-should-know-about-steiner-waldorf-schools.html
" Anthroposophy blended ideas from astrology, spiritualism, Rosicrucianism, Christian mysticism and other gnostic and esoteric sources, to create a cosmology based on Steiner’s readings of the ‘Akashic Records‘ – the cosmic history of the past and the future that exists on a spiritual plane and available to the few through meditation and clairvoyance. Thus was born Steiner’s Spiritual Science – his belief that ordinary science was really just a capability to be able to “spell”, but to be able to “read” one had to have knowledge of higher spiritual existences. Without such knowledge, we cannot fulfill our potential as fully spiritual beings.
Steiner’s visions gave him insights into all areas of human life, including farming (biodynamics), art, dance, diet, architecture, biology, history, geology, finance, and, crucially for us here, medicine and education. These insights have led to thousands of anthroposophically inspired organisations including schools, farms, cosmetic and health companies (e.g Weleda), Banks, (e.g. Triodos) and spiritual communities (e.g. Camphill, Christian Community).
In order to understand Anthroposophy and Spiritual Science, we need to understand the core and basic concepts of Steiner’s world view. Steiner saw the purpose of Anthroposophy was “spiritual advancement through karma and reincarnation, supplemented by the access to esoteric knowledge available to a privileged few.” It is worth remembering that sentence as it is absolutely vital in understanding Steiner-Waldorf Schools. We shall now look at those concepts in a bit more detail.
Steiner viewed the spiritual world to be real and populated with many nature spirits, elementals and root spirits (gnomes). Steiner believed his clairvoyant techniques were a genuine scientific approaches to studying this spiritual realm. They were extra tools, not an alternative to science. We often see Steiner followers repeating the view that Steiner philosophy embraces and extends science. Of course, the reality is that science is undermined by the insistence of the reality of nonsense. This too is important in understanding Steiner Schools.
At the heart of Anthroposophy is the belief that humans are composite beings made up of our bodies and a number of spiritual entities that can be reincarnated. Our spirits enter into bodies each lifetime in several stages as we grow. At about seven years the etheric body incarnates. This coincides with the appearance of adult teeth and gives “strength to learn”. At about fourteen years the astral body incarnates as puberty comes about. Finally, at 21 years, the I, or ego, the divine selfhood incarnates.
http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2012/11/what-every-parent-should-know-about-steiner-waldorf-schools.html
http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2012/11/what-every-parent-should-know-about-steiner-waldorf-schools.html
26 September 2017 16:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Really complete page:
WALDORF NOW
Sifting the Clues by Roger Rawlings
including
"Are Waldorf Schools Progressive?" by Peter Staudenmaier,
Appendix by Diana Winters,
and
Afterword by Margaret Sachs
https://sites.google.com/site/waldorfwatch/waldorf-now
WALDORF NOW
Sifting the Clues by Roger Rawlings
including
"Are Waldorf Schools Progressive?" by Peter Staudenmaier,
Appendix by Diana Winters,
and
Afterword by Margaret Sachs
https://sites.google.com/site/waldorfwatch/waldorf-now
https://sites.google.com/site/waldorfwatch/waldorf-now
26 September 2017 16:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I posted the following two replies.
Here is the first:
Thanks very much for writing.
I agree with much of what you say, and I greatly appreciate the spirit of your message. Open and fruitful conversations between critics and advocates of Anthroposophy and Waldorf schooling can be difficult. Sometimes they seem impossible. But I always try to remain hopeful.
> I am always wondering why the secrecy if we believe in Anthroposophy ?
I think there are a couple of reasons. Steiner taught that the truths of Anthroposophy are occult or gnostic; most people are not prepared for them and should be shielded from them. Also, at an immediate, practical level, Waldorf schools may rightly fear that they would attract few students if they openly professed Steiner's occult teachings. Occultism scares most people (as, in my opinion, it should). So Waldorf educators may often think that they have no alternative but to work toward their goals stealthily.
Please write to us again; tell us more; and offer your comments on the statements made here.
Far too often, discussions between Anthroposophists and their critics become heated and even nasty. The result can be an end of communication and the shared search for truth. I believe that we all are searchers, seeking truth. We may disagree profoundly, but we are all on the same journey, and with a little charity in our hearts we can make the journey together.
- Roger Rawlings
P.S. Relevant to the above: Occasionally people write to me, privately, urging me to notice the attacks being made against me on the Web. Quite understandably, my criticisms of Rudolf Steiner, Anthroposophy, and Waldorf education are upsetting to people who love the things I criticize. But as a rule, I do not attempt to answer personal attacks made against me. The attacks are unimportant. Derogatory statements made about me, whether they contain truth or not, are unimportant because I am unimportant. All that matters is the truth about the issues that affect our lives and world, and we will find truth only if we are calm and reasonable. I think your message, Holly, opens up a possible channel for calm, reasonable communication, and I thank you for it.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/message/11750
A short time later, I added this:
It might be helpful if I try to frame the issues that are important for discussion on this list, IMO.
We are seeking the truth about large, important questions. At the philosophical level, these questions include examining Anthroposophy to see whether its description of reality is true. At a practical level, we seek to understand how Waldorf schools function; whether they help or harm students; whether they provide a good education; whether they promote Anthroposophy; whether they conceal their real purposes; and so forth.
These questions are the legitimate issues for discussion here. Closely related to them are the secondary questions that they raise. So, for example, in considering Steiner's version of evolution, we may certainly need to consider other versions, such as Darwin's. Discussion of these secondary questions is best when we tie it clearly to our consideration of Anthroposophy and Waldorf schools.
Truths about individuals (including Steiner) are irrelevant, as — of course — are lies about individuals. It makes no difference whether any participant here is a good or bad person (however one defines these terms). What matters is the statements we make about the issues of our discussion. Whether these statements are true or false is important; who made them and why is unimportant.
I used to teach college writing courses. Often, these became classes in how to make clear, accurate, true statements — how to analyze subjects and make defensible statements about them. Here's an example I often used: It is not adequate to argue against an idea by saying that Adolf Hitler had that idea. Let's stipulate the Hitler was the worst human being who ever lived; let's stipulate that he was both insane and extremely evil. Nonetheless, he might have made a true statement here or there, at one time or another. (Even Satan, it is said, tells the truth sometimes.) Maybe Hitler lied most of the time, and maybe any good idea he had came to him by accident. Still, if we are to decide whether any particular statement of his is true or false, we have to set aside our opinion of Hitler as a person and tackle his idea. Thus, was it good or bad to build highways in Germany? Hitler said it was good, and his government built the roads. The highway program was not automatically wrong because Hitler supported it. The highway program was good or bad because of the objectively verifiable benefits or harm it caused, not because of the person who thought it up.
Likewise, no ideas expressed or discussed here are true or false because of the personal strengths or flaws of the people who make the statements. This is why, quite rightly, this list has a rule against making ad hominem arguments (arguments that are directed against people instead of against ideas). A "bad" person may make a "good" statement, and the only way to figure out which statements are good is to objectively, rationally explore the statements in and of themselves. Ad hominem attacks are a recognized form of logical fallacy; they get us nowhere.
We should be alert to ad hominems wherever they occur and whomever they target. If someone somewhere on the Web says that Dan Dugan, or Peter Staudenmaier, or anyone else anywhere is demented and evil, people should not allow such attacks to cloud their thinking. If someone is evil, or insane, or perverse, or possessed by demons, this is of immense importance to that individual, and to her/his loved ones, and to his/her minister, and so forth. But the character, virtues, and vices of individuals do not determine the truth about the issues we discuss here. If Hitler sometimes had a good idea, the same may be true of everyone else who ever lived (even Dan, and Peter, and — conceivably — me). The only way to evaluate ideas is to forget who expressed them and evaluate the ideas themselves: think them through, search for evidence, evaluate arguments for logic or the lack of logic, and so forth. That's what we, and everyone else interested in Anthroposophy and Waldorf education, should do concerning these interesting and important topics.
IMO.
- Roger Rawlings
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/message/11751
Here is the first:
Thanks very much for writing.
I agree with much of what you say, and I greatly appreciate the spirit of your message. Open and fruitful conversations between critics and advocates of Anthroposophy and Waldorf schooling can be difficult. Sometimes they seem impossible. But I always try to remain hopeful.
> I am always wondering why the secrecy if we believe in Anthroposophy ?
I think there are a couple of reasons. Steiner taught that the truths of Anthroposophy are occult or gnostic; most people are not prepared for them and should be shielded from them. Also, at an immediate, practical level, Waldorf schools may rightly fear that they would attract few students if they openly professed Steiner's occult teachings. Occultism scares most people (as, in my opinion, it should). So Waldorf educators may often think that they have no alternative but to work toward their goals stealthily.
Please write to us again; tell us more; and offer your comments on the statements made here.
Far too often, discussions between Anthroposophists and their critics become heated and even nasty. The result can be an end of communication and the shared search for truth. I believe that we all are searchers, seeking truth. We may disagree profoundly, but we are all on the same journey, and with a little charity in our hearts we can make the journey together.
- Roger Rawlings
P.S. Relevant to the above: Occasionally people write to me, privately, urging me to notice the attacks being made against me on the Web. Quite understandably, my criticisms of Rudolf Steiner, Anthroposophy, and Waldorf education are upsetting to people who love the things I criticize. But as a rule, I do not attempt to answer personal attacks made against me. The attacks are unimportant. Derogatory statements made about me, whether they contain truth or not, are unimportant because I am unimportant. All that matters is the truth about the issues that affect our lives and world, and we will find truth only if we are calm and reasonable. I think your message, Holly, opens up a possible channel for calm, reasonable communication, and I thank you for it.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/message/11750
A short time later, I added this:
It might be helpful if I try to frame the issues that are important for discussion on this list, IMO.
We are seeking the truth about large, important questions. At the philosophical level, these questions include examining Anthroposophy to see whether its description of reality is true. At a practical level, we seek to understand how Waldorf schools function; whether they help or harm students; whether they provide a good education; whether they promote Anthroposophy; whether they conceal their real purposes; and so forth.
These questions are the legitimate issues for discussion here. Closely related to them are the secondary questions that they raise. So, for example, in considering Steiner's version of evolution, we may certainly need to consider other versions, such as Darwin's. Discussion of these secondary questions is best when we tie it clearly to our consideration of Anthroposophy and Waldorf schools.
Truths about individuals (including Steiner) are irrelevant, as — of course — are lies about individuals. It makes no difference whether any participant here is a good or bad person (however one defines these terms). What matters is the statements we make about the issues of our discussion. Whether these statements are true or false is important; who made them and why is unimportant.
I used to teach college writing courses. Often, these became classes in how to make clear, accurate, true statements — how to analyze subjects and make defensible statements about them. Here's an example I often used: It is not adequate to argue against an idea by saying that Adolf Hitler had that idea. Let's stipulate the Hitler was the worst human being who ever lived; let's stipulate that he was both insane and extremely evil. Nonetheless, he might have made a true statement here or there, at one time or another. (Even Satan, it is said, tells the truth sometimes.) Maybe Hitler lied most of the time, and maybe any good idea he had came to him by accident. Still, if we are to decide whether any particular statement of his is true or false, we have to set aside our opinion of Hitler as a person and tackle his idea. Thus, was it good or bad to build highways in Germany? Hitler said it was good, and his government built the roads. The highway program was not automatically wrong because Hitler supported it. The highway program was good or bad because of the objectively verifiable benefits or harm it caused, not because of the person who thought it up.
Likewise, no ideas expressed or discussed here are true or false because of the personal strengths or flaws of the people who make the statements. This is why, quite rightly, this list has a rule against making ad hominem arguments (arguments that are directed against people instead of against ideas). A "bad" person may make a "good" statement, and the only way to figure out which statements are good is to objectively, rationally explore the statements in and of themselves. Ad hominem attacks are a recognized form of logical fallacy; they get us nowhere.
We should be alert to ad hominems wherever they occur and whomever they target. If someone somewhere on the Web says that Dan Dugan, or Peter Staudenmaier, or anyone else anywhere is demented and evil, people should not allow such attacks to cloud their thinking. If someone is evil, or insane, or perverse, or possessed by demons, this is of immense importance to that individual, and to her/his loved ones, and to his/her minister, and so forth. But the character, virtues, and vices of individuals do not determine the truth about the issues we discuss here. If Hitler sometimes had a good idea, the same may be true of everyone else who ever lived (even Dan, and Peter, and — conceivably — me). The only way to evaluate ideas is to forget who expressed them and evaluate the ideas themselves: think them through, search for evidence, evaluate arguments for logic or the lack of logic, and so forth. That's what we, and everyone else interested in Anthroposophy and Waldorf education, should do concerning these interesting and important topics.
IMO.
- Roger Rawlings
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/message/11751
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/message/11750
26 September 2017 16:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Here is a fascinating message posted on the Internet in September, 2009 by an advocate of Waldorf education; following it are two messages I wrote in reply. I have edited the messages slightly for inclusion here.
Far too often, messages posted by defenders of Rudolf Steiner and his works are angry — they aim barbs at the critics of Waldorf schooling. Efforts at calm, respectful discussion between the two camps — for Waldorf and against Waldorf — are rare. It was good to read the following message. It provided an opportunity to outline some principles concerning rational, respectful discussion.
I also took the opportunity to respond, tangentially, to some of the attacks made against me for writing such things as "Weird Waldorf". The title of the essay is provocative, and it is sure to offend many Waldorf defenders. But having read the essay now, you may agree that the epithet "weird" is actually quite apt — it accurately characterizes the ideology underlying Waldorf schooling. Still, if I should have chosen a less pointed word, I offer my regrets. (If the title caught your attention, however, and enticed you to take a look, then perhaps my purpose was attained and possibly might be forgiven.)
Internet message:
I am actually a devoted follower of Anthroposophy and really love the basic principles behind Waldorf education. This is my choice and I am not intending to defend my beliefs nor to criticize those of others. However after reading articles of criticism of Waldorf schools and Anthroposophy I must admit that these criticisms can often be well founded and there are many very worthwhile questions and concerns which I believe it to be the duty of Anthroposophists to truthfully answer.
I sent my own children to a Waldorf school, taught not only in the state system but also in the Waldorf system and I was connected for several years to the Anthroposophical society. Unfortunately I found these experiences to be alienating, cruel and humiliating. Nonetheless I have come to some important realizations. I agree it is time for a really good honest look into these systems and to weed out misconceptions or spiritual abuse. I also accept it is time for Anthroposophists to stop being dishonest and closed to the public for that can only lead to mistrust and lack of responsibility for their beliefs and actions. Hiding behind words, Steinerisms — in fact there is in my opinion a truth to the cult of Anthroposophy, they can feel safe and righteous.
If one is true to Anthroposophy there will be no harm done to others, there will be honest, open discussion, love of the spirit and honouring of others’ beliefs. Waldorf schools ARE based on beliefs of reincarnation, the fourfold nature of the human being, etc., but this need not be evil or wrong unless those in charge of the care of our children are closed to discussion and accountability. I am always wondering why the secrecy if we believe in Anthroposophy?
At first I was very anxious reading criticisms but my love of Anthroposophy leads me to defend it rightfully and to, like the critics, bring to the light the truth about the underlying wrongs which put a darkness over the many wonderful, soul-enriching ideas and ideals of Rudolf Steiner. There is a rightness about the questioning because where our treasured children are concerned we do need to be sure of their safety on all levels.
To conclude, I am a supporter of the many wonderful Waldorf methods, and I totally believe that correctly managed these can provide children with a well-grounded education. On the other hand, I concede that the lack of openness about the philosophy takes away free choice of parents — even, sadly, to the point of subtly gaining students on false pretenses. Without the full knowledge of what underlies the Waldorf system, the danger is that many new-age, alternative parents will drift to a system which they think will provide what they are looking for. The school I taught in had parents practicing witchcraft, shamanism, tarot, rekei, wicca — but that is not Anthroposophy nor a part of the Waldorf curriculum.
Keep up the good work, and if I can be of assistance in answering questions I am more than willing to offer my time.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/message/11749
Far too often, messages posted by defenders of Rudolf Steiner and his works are angry — they aim barbs at the critics of Waldorf schooling. Efforts at calm, respectful discussion between the two camps — for Waldorf and against Waldorf — are rare. It was good to read the following message. It provided an opportunity to outline some principles concerning rational, respectful discussion.
I also took the opportunity to respond, tangentially, to some of the attacks made against me for writing such things as "Weird Waldorf". The title of the essay is provocative, and it is sure to offend many Waldorf defenders. But having read the essay now, you may agree that the epithet "weird" is actually quite apt — it accurately characterizes the ideology underlying Waldorf schooling. Still, if I should have chosen a less pointed word, I offer my regrets. (If the title caught your attention, however, and enticed you to take a look, then perhaps my purpose was attained and possibly might be forgiven.)
Internet message:
I am actually a devoted follower of Anthroposophy and really love the basic principles behind Waldorf education. This is my choice and I am not intending to defend my beliefs nor to criticize those of others. However after reading articles of criticism of Waldorf schools and Anthroposophy I must admit that these criticisms can often be well founded and there are many very worthwhile questions and concerns which I believe it to be the duty of Anthroposophists to truthfully answer.
I sent my own children to a Waldorf school, taught not only in the state system but also in the Waldorf system and I was connected for several years to the Anthroposophical society. Unfortunately I found these experiences to be alienating, cruel and humiliating. Nonetheless I have come to some important realizations. I agree it is time for a really good honest look into these systems and to weed out misconceptions or spiritual abuse. I also accept it is time for Anthroposophists to stop being dishonest and closed to the public for that can only lead to mistrust and lack of responsibility for their beliefs and actions. Hiding behind words, Steinerisms — in fact there is in my opinion a truth to the cult of Anthroposophy, they can feel safe and righteous.
If one is true to Anthroposophy there will be no harm done to others, there will be honest, open discussion, love of the spirit and honouring of others’ beliefs. Waldorf schools ARE based on beliefs of reincarnation, the fourfold nature of the human being, etc., but this need not be evil or wrong unless those in charge of the care of our children are closed to discussion and accountability. I am always wondering why the secrecy if we believe in Anthroposophy?
At first I was very anxious reading criticisms but my love of Anthroposophy leads me to defend it rightfully and to, like the critics, bring to the light the truth about the underlying wrongs which put a darkness over the many wonderful, soul-enriching ideas and ideals of Rudolf Steiner. There is a rightness about the questioning because where our treasured children are concerned we do need to be sure of their safety on all levels.
To conclude, I am a supporter of the many wonderful Waldorf methods, and I totally believe that correctly managed these can provide children with a well-grounded education. On the other hand, I concede that the lack of openness about the philosophy takes away free choice of parents — even, sadly, to the point of subtly gaining students on false pretenses. Without the full knowledge of what underlies the Waldorf system, the danger is that many new-age, alternative parents will drift to a system which they think will provide what they are looking for. The school I taught in had parents practicing witchcraft, shamanism, tarot, rekei, wicca — but that is not Anthroposophy nor a part of the Waldorf curriculum.
Keep up the good work, and if I can be of assistance in answering questions I am more than willing to offer my time.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/message/11749
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/message/11749
26 September 2017 16:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Why is that good place for dark forces :
"
Steiner Schools are based on the idea that children’s spirits and souls need attention as they are incarnated into their bodies. This incarnation happens in seven years cycles and a teacher’s early role is to help children understand their previous incarnations. \1\ As such, these are not places of education, but places of spiritual midwifery. Karma drives the manifestation of souls, with previous actions bearing on subsequent lives. If you have done wrong, then that wrong must be worked out in another life in order for the souls to evolve towards higher forms of spiritual development. Steiner believes the blond haired, blue eyed races of Europe represented the current pinnacle of spiritual development \2\ and a child’s soul must be guided towards such incarnations from the ‘lower races’. \3\
Naturally, none of this is discussed on the current Michael House Steiner School web site. \4\
This worldview has consequences within schools. It is a common complaint that bullying goes unchecked as [there] is a belief that the bullied and the bullier [are] reversing roles from previous incarnations and these karmic issues must be worked out by the children. \5\ Children are divided into temperaments: choleric, sanguine, phlegmatic and melancholic. Such designations, based on physical appearance, guide a teacher’s interactions with a child. \6\
Karma is central to Steiner’s worldview. Disease is a result of karmic influences. If you get measles, that is what is intended for you. If you die [due to measles], then you will be reincarnated having worked out that aspect of your karma. Steiner schools are notorious as centres of unvaccinated children. Why would you want to intervene in karma? \7\
[http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2013/03/bill-roache-karma-reincarnation-and-steiner-schools.html]
// Apropriate times:
\3\ “A race or nation stands so much the higher, the more perfectly its members express the pure, ideal human type ... The evolution of man through the incarnations in ever higher national and racial forms is thus a process of liberation [leading to] an ideal future." — Rudolf Steiner, KNOWLEDGE OF THE HIGHER WORLDS AND ITS ATTAINMENT (Anthroposophic Press, 1944), p. 149.
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Steiner Schools are based on the idea that children’s spirits and souls need attention as they are incarnated into their bodies. This incarnation happens in seven years cycles and a teacher’s early role is to help children understand their previous incarnations. \1\ As such, these are not places of education, but places of spiritual midwifery. Karma drives the manifestation of souls, with previous actions bearing on subsequent lives. If you have done wrong, then that wrong must be worked out in another life in order for the souls to evolve towards higher forms of spiritual development. Steiner believes the blond haired, blue eyed races of Europe represented the current pinnacle of spiritual development \2\ and a child’s soul must be guided towards such incarnations from the ‘lower races’. \3\
Naturally, none of this is discussed on the current Michael House Steiner School web site. \4\
This worldview has consequences within schools. It is a common complaint that bullying goes unchecked as [there] is a belief that the bullied and the bullier [are] reversing roles from previous incarnations and these karmic issues must be worked out by the children. \5\ Children are divided into temperaments: choleric, sanguine, phlegmatic and melancholic. Such designations, based on physical appearance, guide a teacher’s interactions with a child. \6\
Karma is central to Steiner’s worldview. Disease is a result of karmic influences. If you get measles, that is what is intended for you. If you die [due to measles], then you will be reincarnated having worked out that aspect of your karma. Steiner schools are notorious as centres of unvaccinated children. Why would you want to intervene in karma? \7\
[http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2013/03/bill-roache-karma-reincarnation-and-steiner-schools.html]
// Apropriate times:
\3\ “A race or nation stands so much the higher, the more perfectly its members express the pure, ideal human type ... The evolution of man through the incarnations in ever higher national and racial forms is thus a process of liberation [leading to] an ideal future." — Rudolf Steiner, KNOWLEDGE OF THE HIGHER WORLDS AND ITS ATTAINMENT (Anthroposophic Press, 1944), p. 149.
http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2013/03/bill-roache-karma-reincarnation-and-steiner-schools.html
26 September 2017 16:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Steiner: "When we sleep, Steiner taught, parts of our higher nature leave our bodies and travel to spirit realms. Among the many spirits they meet there are various colors. The colors, including yellow, are "beings" or spirits. They are, in fact, spiritual agents that shepherd us to the spirit realm and bring the spirit realm to us. (Art classes in Waldorf schools have this process in mind.)
Specifically, Steiner said that our physical bodies and "etheric" bodies remain on Earth while we sleep, but our "astral bodies" and spiritual "egos" travel to the higher, spiritual worlds where they consort with all manner of spirits or gods. This is helpful, Steiner said — it strengthens and guides us when we return to Earth in the morning and resume our karma. You see, we live many, many lives, in a long process of reincarnation. We alternate between lives on Earth and lives in other worlds.
This, and much more, is what lies behind the apparently mild quotation you see above. When investigating Waldorf schools, if you encounter language that strikes you as odd or mysterious, don't pass by silently. Ask questions. Probe. Dig. Read. Work to understand what you are being told (and what is being concealed).
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Specifically, Steiner said that our physical bodies and "etheric" bodies remain on Earth while we sleep, but our "astral bodies" and spiritual "egos" travel to the higher, spiritual worlds where they consort with all manner of spirits or gods. This is helpful, Steiner said — it strengthens and guides us when we return to Earth in the morning and resume our karma. You see, we live many, many lives, in a long process of reincarnation. We alternate between lives on Earth and lives in other worlds.
This, and much more, is what lies behind the apparently mild quotation you see above. When investigating Waldorf schools, if you encounter language that strikes you as odd or mysterious, don't pass by silently. Ask questions. Probe. Dig. Read. Work to understand what you are being told (and what is being concealed).
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26 September 2017 16:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" The Waldorf worldview is polytheistic: Man was created not by God but by the words of many gods. Some people may find this an attractive idea, perhaps even a true idea. At Waldorf schools, it is accepted as revealed Truth.
The gods' dance is reenacted in Waldorf schools through a form of interpretive movement called eurythmy. The stances and gestures in eurythmy are supposed to make visible the spiritual meaning behind spoken words — thus, they are supposed to convey and even create occult wisdom. Eurythmy is considered so important, so central to Waldorf's purpose, that all students are usually required to participate in it.
Here are four representative eurythmic positions with their associated astrological signs. Yes, astrology. The occult powers of the stars are very important to Anthroposophists. Astrology, as interpreted by Steiner, is never far below the surface in Waldorf education:
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(Note, by the way, that Steiner wrote many books, but some of the books published over his name consist of transcripts of lectures he delivered. He did not always intend his lectures to become publicly known, but his devout followers copied them down so as not to lose a single word that proceeded from his lips. Today, in the age of Amazon and other Internet facilities, getting ahold of Steiner's books and lectures is far easier than it was in the past.)
If you are considering a Waldorf school for your children, you owe it to yourself and them to buy a few books by Rudolf Steiner and study them carefully. If you like what you find there, then a Waldorf school may indeed be right for your family. But you may discover that Anthroposophical thinking is utterly alien and bizarre, in which case you may want to protect your children from it.
http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/19180210p01.html
From book:
"I want you to remember this in connection with what I am now going to say; otherwise you may find it difficult to understand.
As I told you, the moments of waking and falling asleep are of particular importance for intercourse with the dead. In our whole life there are no single moments of falling asleep or of waking when we do not come into relation with the dead.
The moment of falling asleep is especially favourable for us to turn to the dead. Suppose we want to ask the dead something. We can carry it in our soul, holding it until the moment of falling asleep; for that is the time to bring our questions to the dead, Other opportunities exist, but this moment is the most favourable. When, for instance, we read to the dead we certainly draw near to them. But for direct intercourse it is best of all if we address our questions to the dead at the moment of falling asleep."
The gods' dance is reenacted in Waldorf schools through a form of interpretive movement called eurythmy. The stances and gestures in eurythmy are supposed to make visible the spiritual meaning behind spoken words — thus, they are supposed to convey and even create occult wisdom. Eurythmy is considered so important, so central to Waldorf's purpose, that all students are usually required to participate in it.
Here are four representative eurythmic positions with their associated astrological signs. Yes, astrology. The occult powers of the stars are very important to Anthroposophists. Astrology, as interpreted by Steiner, is never far below the surface in Waldorf education:
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(Note, by the way, that Steiner wrote many books, but some of the books published over his name consist of transcripts of lectures he delivered. He did not always intend his lectures to become publicly known, but his devout followers copied them down so as not to lose a single word that proceeded from his lips. Today, in the age of Amazon and other Internet facilities, getting ahold of Steiner's books and lectures is far easier than it was in the past.)
If you are considering a Waldorf school for your children, you owe it to yourself and them to buy a few books by Rudolf Steiner and study them carefully. If you like what you find there, then a Waldorf school may indeed be right for your family. But you may discover that Anthroposophical thinking is utterly alien and bizarre, in which case you may want to protect your children from it.
http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/19180210p01.html
From book:
"I want you to remember this in connection with what I am now going to say; otherwise you may find it difficult to understand.
As I told you, the moments of waking and falling asleep are of particular importance for intercourse with the dead. In our whole life there are no single moments of falling asleep or of waking when we do not come into relation with the dead.
The moment of falling asleep is especially favourable for us to turn to the dead. Suppose we want to ask the dead something. We can carry it in our soul, holding it until the moment of falling asleep; for that is the time to bring our questions to the dead, Other opportunities exist, but this moment is the most favourable. When, for instance, we read to the dead we certainly draw near to them. But for direct intercourse it is best of all if we address our questions to the dead at the moment of falling asleep."
http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/19180210p01.html
26 September 2017 16:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Anthroposophical tenets and attitudes that are often conveyed, to one degree or another, to Waldorf students:
• karma
• reincarnation
• spiritual evolution
• rejection of Darwinism but belief in purposeful,
progressive earthly evolution
• the utter difference between humans and animals
• polytheism
• the reliability and power of imagination
and inspiration and intuition and
emotion (subjectivity) as opposed to rationality;
hence, preference for
hazy pastel mystical thinking
as opposed to rigid deadly logic
• the efficacy of elevated
(in a sense, transcendent) consciousness:
clairvoyance or ESP and other psychic powers
• maya (the deceptive nature of physical reality)
• the problematic nature of nature
(the natural world embodies wonderful forces
but ultimately it beneath us, a set of snares)
• the shallowness and unreliability of science
• the wickedness of technology
• the wickedness of the modern world generally
• the solemn mystic primacy of the Sun
• the importance of Christ
(the Sun God)
• the importance (but obsolescence)
of the Old Testament
• the existence of invisible beings above humanity
and also below humanity
• the existence of other worlds and realms
(including invisible ones)
• the transcendent power of art
• the superiority of ancient "wisdom"
(myths, visions, intuitions, folk tales, fairy tales)
as opposed to modern materialistic illusory
"knowledge"
• the unreliability of the brain
• the unreliability of the senses
• the unreliability and corrupting power of the body
• the cultural superiority of Europe
(especially north/central Europe,
in particular Germany and the Nordic countries
occupied by highly civilized white people)
• the reality of magic in various guises (e.g., biodynamic gardening)
• suspicion of modern medicine
and preference for "natural" or herbal healing
• the possible if not certain spiritualistic (astrological)
significance of heavenly bodies
• the cyclical nature of history
• the possibility of hidden groups or forces
controlling history for good or ill
• the ultimate, constant warfare
between forces of good and evil
(or between light and dark,
which may find expression in skin coloring)
• the real existence of angels,
including guardian angels
• the belief that people by and large
are foolishly materialistic and unawake
(Steiner called non-Anthroposophists
robots, blind moles, etc.)
• the belief that the general run
of worldly knowledge
(as found in encyclopedias, in regular schools,
in colleges) is wrong
• the belief that truth is known only among
superior sorts such as ourselves
(i.e., Waldorf teachers and students)
• the possible real and continuing existence
of specters, ghosts, the dead
• the possibility of communication with them...
and so on.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/messages/
• karma
• reincarnation
• spiritual evolution
• rejection of Darwinism but belief in purposeful,
progressive earthly evolution
• the utter difference between humans and animals
• polytheism
• the reliability and power of imagination
and inspiration and intuition and
emotion (subjectivity) as opposed to rationality;
hence, preference for
hazy pastel mystical thinking
as opposed to rigid deadly logic
• the efficacy of elevated
(in a sense, transcendent) consciousness:
clairvoyance or ESP and other psychic powers
• maya (the deceptive nature of physical reality)
• the problematic nature of nature
(the natural world embodies wonderful forces
but ultimately it beneath us, a set of snares)
• the shallowness and unreliability of science
• the wickedness of technology
• the wickedness of the modern world generally
• the solemn mystic primacy of the Sun
• the importance of Christ
(the Sun God)
• the importance (but obsolescence)
of the Old Testament
• the existence of invisible beings above humanity
and also below humanity
• the existence of other worlds and realms
(including invisible ones)
• the transcendent power of art
• the superiority of ancient "wisdom"
(myths, visions, intuitions, folk tales, fairy tales)
as opposed to modern materialistic illusory
"knowledge"
• the unreliability of the brain
• the unreliability of the senses
• the unreliability and corrupting power of the body
• the cultural superiority of Europe
(especially north/central Europe,
in particular Germany and the Nordic countries
occupied by highly civilized white people)
• the reality of magic in various guises (e.g., biodynamic gardening)
• suspicion of modern medicine
and preference for "natural" or herbal healing
• the possible if not certain spiritualistic (astrological)
significance of heavenly bodies
• the cyclical nature of history
• the possibility of hidden groups or forces
controlling history for good or ill
• the ultimate, constant warfare
between forces of good and evil
(or between light and dark,
which may find expression in skin coloring)
• the real existence of angels,
including guardian angels
• the belief that people by and large
are foolishly materialistic and unawake
(Steiner called non-Anthroposophists
robots, blind moles, etc.)
• the belief that the general run
of worldly knowledge
(as found in encyclopedias, in regular schools,
in colleges) is wrong
• the belief that truth is known only among
superior sorts such as ourselves
(i.e., Waldorf teachers and students)
• the possible real and continuing existence
of specters, ghosts, the dead
• the possibility of communication with them...
and so on.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/messages/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/messages/
26 September 2017 16:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lt progress...the walls would disappear from his clairvoyant vision ... [T]he walls become like glass, but in the sphere which opens up there is a world of purely spiritual phenomena; spiritual facts and spiritual figures become visible....[M]any different kinds of elementary beings are around us ... But they cannot all be seen in the same way; according to the capacity of clairvoyant vision, there may be visible and invisible beings in the same space. What spiritual beings become visible in any particular instance depends on the colour to which we devote ourselves. In a red room, other beings become visible than in a blue room.... ” [18] Thus, the use of color — and the environment created by variously colored rooms — in a Waldorf school is meant to have spiritual effects. This use of color is an embodiment of Anthroposophical doctrine.
The study of all arts at Waldorf schools is drenched with mystical Anthroposophical thinking. Arts are not studied or performed for aesthetic or cultural reasons, primarily, but for spiritual reasons. “This is what gives art its essential lustre: it transplants us here and now into the spiritual world.” [19] Steiner meant this quite literally. Through art, students are supposed to become connected with the spirit realm. This is clearest in eurythmy. Eurythmy is not dance, per se. It is a literal enactment of Anthroposophical doctrine — it is an Anthroposophical religious exercise, and it is generally required of all students. Why? “In having people do eurythmy, we link them directly to the supersensible world.” [20] Note the wording. Waldorf teachers don't invite or encourage students to do eurythmy: They have (i.e., require) them to do it, because it connects them to the supersensible (i.e., spiritual) realm. This is Steiner's religion in practice. Eurythmy is Anthroposophy in motion — kids doing eurythmy are being taught Anthroposophy in the form of spirit-connecting physical motion.
Or consider the gnome dolls so often found in Waldorf classrooms. Why are they there? Because they represent beings that Steiner said actually exist: “There are beings that can be seen with clairvoyant vision at many spots in the depths of the earth ... Many names have been given to them, such as goblins, gnomes and so forth.” [21] The gnome dolls are present almost in the same way that statues of saints and angels can be found in churches: They represent the spiritual beliefs fostered in those buildings. Of course, one often sees images of angels in Waldorf schools, too. It is all the same: It is surrounding the kids with Anthroposophy.
Or consider Norse myths. These are given great emphasis in Waldorf schools. Why? Because they can be made to apparently embody Anthroposophical beliefs. “No other mythology gives a clearer picture of [spiritual] evolution than Northern mythology. Germanic mythology in its pictures is close to anthroposophical conception of future evolution.” [22] Kids who are taught Norse myths in Waldorf schools are being taught a soft form of Anthroposophy. The Norse gods, you see, are real gods for Steiner and his followers. “Myths and sagas are not just 'folk-tales'; they are the memories of the visions people perceived in olden times ... At night they were really surrounded by the world of the Nordic gods of which the legends tell. Odin, Freya, and all the other figures [i.e., Norse gods] in Nordic mythology were not inventions; they were experienced in the spiritual world with as much reality as we experience our fellow human beings around us today.. "
The study of all arts at Waldorf schools is drenched with mystical Anthroposophical thinking. Arts are not studied or performed for aesthetic or cultural reasons, primarily, but for spiritual reasons. “This is what gives art its essential lustre: it transplants us here and now into the spiritual world.” [19] Steiner meant this quite literally. Through art, students are supposed to become connected with the spirit realm. This is clearest in eurythmy. Eurythmy is not dance, per se. It is a literal enactment of Anthroposophical doctrine — it is an Anthroposophical religious exercise, and it is generally required of all students. Why? “In having people do eurythmy, we link them directly to the supersensible world.” [20] Note the wording. Waldorf teachers don't invite or encourage students to do eurythmy: They have (i.e., require) them to do it, because it connects them to the supersensible (i.e., spiritual) realm. This is Steiner's religion in practice. Eurythmy is Anthroposophy in motion — kids doing eurythmy are being taught Anthroposophy in the form of spirit-connecting physical motion.
Or consider the gnome dolls so often found in Waldorf classrooms. Why are they there? Because they represent beings that Steiner said actually exist: “There are beings that can be seen with clairvoyant vision at many spots in the depths of the earth ... Many names have been given to them, such as goblins, gnomes and so forth.” [21] The gnome dolls are present almost in the same way that statues of saints and angels can be found in churches: They represent the spiritual beliefs fostered in those buildings. Of course, one often sees images of angels in Waldorf schools, too. It is all the same: It is surrounding the kids with Anthroposophy.
Or consider Norse myths. These are given great emphasis in Waldorf schools. Why? Because they can be made to apparently embody Anthroposophical beliefs. “No other mythology gives a clearer picture of [spiritual] evolution than Northern mythology. Germanic mythology in its pictures is close to anthroposophical conception of future evolution.” [22] Kids who are taught Norse myths in Waldorf schools are being taught a soft form of Anthroposophy. The Norse gods, you see, are real gods for Steiner and his followers. “Myths and sagas are not just 'folk-tales'; they are the memories of the visions people perceived in olden times ... At night they were really surrounded by the world of the Nordic gods of which the legends tell. Odin, Freya, and all the other figures [i.e., Norse gods] in Nordic mythology were not inventions; they were experienced in the spiritual world with as much reality as we experience our fellow human beings around us today.. "
26 September 2017 16:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Financial considerations also give the schools a reason to be secretive. Many Waldorf schools depend primarily or completely on the tuition paid by students' families. Scaring away families would be bad for business.
Finally, in countries where a clear line is supposed to exists between secular schools and religious schools, Waldorf schools would cut their own throats if they revealed that they are, indeed, religious.
So Waldorf schools teach Anthroposophy in roundabout ways, subtle but very effective. Here is a question posted in June, 2009, at the waldorf-critics discussion list. The writer is the mother of a Waldorf school student. My reply deals with some subjects covered, and some quotations cited, elsewhere here at Waldorf Watch. If you come upon material you've already seen, please just skip ahead:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/message/11024
Perhaps Anthroposophy isn't taught at some Waldorf schools. But it certainly is taught at many of the schools, as Steiner intended. The process is often deceptive, often covert, but it is real. In fact, it is the main purpose of the schools, as conceived by Steiner.
Finally, in countries where a clear line is supposed to exists between secular schools and religious schools, Waldorf schools would cut their own throats if they revealed that they are, indeed, religious.
So Waldorf schools teach Anthroposophy in roundabout ways, subtle but very effective. Here is a question posted in June, 2009, at the waldorf-critics discussion list. The writer is the mother of a Waldorf school student. My reply deals with some subjects covered, and some quotations cited, elsewhere here at Waldorf Watch. If you come upon material you've already seen, please just skip ahead:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/message/11024
Perhaps Anthroposophy isn't taught at some Waldorf schools. But it certainly is taught at many of the schools, as Steiner intended. The process is often deceptive, often covert, but it is real. In fact, it is the main purpose of the schools, as conceived by Steiner.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-critics/message/11024
26 September 2017 16:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Waldorf schools generally teach Anthroposophy to the students, but typically they do this covertly, without telling the students or the students' parents what is going on, and generally without expounding Anthroposophical doctrines in so many words. Their approach is indirect and sly. They maintain deniability, teaching Anthroposophy without, as it were, teaching it.
// [See, e.g., "Sneaking It In".] There are several reasons for this approach. Anthroposophy is occult — many of its doctrines consist of "mystery knowledge" that only insiders, or "initiates," are supposed to possess. The inner circle of a Waldorf school may possess this knowledge, but people in outer circles are kept more or less in the dark — the farther anyone is from the center, the less s/he is told. Students are near the periphery, so they rarely receive clear, open statements of doctrine from their teachers. Still, the kids may internalize many Anthroposophical beliefs and attitudes, delivered to them through subtle processes. The kids will have been told mystical stories, and taught "verses" (prayers), and led in devout songs (hymns), and required to do eurythmy (a sort of Anthroposophical temple dancing), and been nudged and winked at and quietly coaxed in all manner of oblique ways. They will have gotten an extensive esoteric workout. [See "Indoctrination".] After spending eleven years at a Waldorf school, I knew a lot of Anthroposophy, although I didn't quite know that I knew it, if you follow me. I didn't consciously know that my beliefs and attitudes came, to a very large extent, out of Steiner's occult doctrines.
// [See, e.g., "Sneaking It In".] There are several reasons for this approach. Anthroposophy is occult — many of its doctrines consist of "mystery knowledge" that only insiders, or "initiates," are supposed to possess. The inner circle of a Waldorf school may possess this knowledge, but people in outer circles are kept more or less in the dark — the farther anyone is from the center, the less s/he is told. Students are near the periphery, so they rarely receive clear, open statements of doctrine from their teachers. Still, the kids may internalize many Anthroposophical beliefs and attitudes, delivered to them through subtle processes. The kids will have been told mystical stories, and taught "verses" (prayers), and led in devout songs (hymns), and required to do eurythmy (a sort of Anthroposophical temple dancing), and been nudged and winked at and quietly coaxed in all manner of oblique ways. They will have gotten an extensive esoteric workout. [See "Indoctrination".] After spending eleven years at a Waldorf school, I knew a lot of Anthroposophy, although I didn't quite know that I knew it, if you follow me. I didn't consciously know that my beliefs and attitudes came, to a very large extent, out of Steiner's occult doctrines.
26 September 2017 16:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Steiner worried about opposition to his weird, occult tenets, so he instructed Waldorf teachers to keep the school's occult purposes secret. They were not to use the word "prayer," for instance. “Never call a verse a prayer, call it an opening verse before school. Avoid allowing anyone to hear you, as a faculty member, using the word ‘prayer.’”
"Similarly, Steiner told the teachers not to reveal the tenet that some people are "not really human." Some “children are born with a human form, but are not really human beings ... Imagine what people would say if they heard that we say there are people who are not human beings ... [W]e do not want to shout that to the world.” [7]
Steiner worried about a lot of things, such as the poor academic standards at Waldorf. So he told the teachers to hush this up also. He said the school would not prepare students for final examinations, but he didn't "dare" to reveal this. “It is a question of whether we dare tell those who come to us that we will not prepare them for the final examination at all, that it is a private decision of the student whether to take the final examination or not.” [8]. His overall directive to Waldorf teachers was, understandably, quite broad: “We should not speak to people outside the school....”
On specific subjects, especially sciences, Steiner gave his teachers truly bizarre guidance. He explained to them that the earth doesn't orbit the sun. Rather, the sun is flying through space, with three planets ahead of it and three trailing behind. [10] As for the earth itself, Steiner taught that islands such as Great Britain are not attached to the ocean floor. Instead, they float, and are held in position by the stars. [11]
Basic to Steiner's religion are the borrowed concepts of karma and reincarnation. [12] Steiner said that upper school students might be given instruction about reincarnation, but only in the most cautious manner. [13] (Steiner’s explanation for why some people are “not really human” is that “they are not reincarnated, but are human forms filled with a sort of natural demon.” [14])
Critically important: Steiner affirmed that "Anthroposophy will be in the school."
// His overall directive to Waldorf teachers was, understandably, quite broad: “We should not speak to people outside the school....”
"Similarly, Steiner told the teachers not to reveal the tenet that some people are "not really human." Some “children are born with a human form, but are not really human beings ... Imagine what people would say if they heard that we say there are people who are not human beings ... [W]e do not want to shout that to the world.” [7]
Steiner worried about a lot of things, such as the poor academic standards at Waldorf. So he told the teachers to hush this up also. He said the school would not prepare students for final examinations, but he didn't "dare" to reveal this. “It is a question of whether we dare tell those who come to us that we will not prepare them for the final examination at all, that it is a private decision of the student whether to take the final examination or not.” [8]. His overall directive to Waldorf teachers was, understandably, quite broad: “We should not speak to people outside the school....”
On specific subjects, especially sciences, Steiner gave his teachers truly bizarre guidance. He explained to them that the earth doesn't orbit the sun. Rather, the sun is flying through space, with three planets ahead of it and three trailing behind. [10] As for the earth itself, Steiner taught that islands such as Great Britain are not attached to the ocean floor. Instead, they float, and are held in position by the stars. [11]
Basic to Steiner's religion are the borrowed concepts of karma and reincarnation. [12] Steiner said that upper school students might be given instruction about reincarnation, but only in the most cautious manner. [13] (Steiner’s explanation for why some people are “not really human” is that “they are not reincarnated, but are human forms filled with a sort of natural demon.” [14])
Critically important: Steiner affirmed that "Anthroposophy will be in the school."
// His overall directive to Waldorf teachers was, understandably, quite broad: “We should not speak to people outside the school....”
26 September 2017 16:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Steiner told the teachers that they must serve the "the divine cosmic plan. We should always remember that when we do something, we are actually carrying out the intentions of the gods." He informed the teachers that they were on a messianic mission to save the world: They would be “the means by which that streaming down from above [i.e., the gods' beneficence] will go out into the world.”
Steiner presumably knew what the divine plan is, at least in his own opinion; and he spoke of many gods, not one. It would be almost impossible to believe that Steiner made such grandiose and — from an orthodox Christian viewpoint — heretical remarks, except that he did. This conception of Waldorf schooling is so essential, let's look at Steiner's words again, more fully: “Among the faculty, we must certainly carry within us the knowledge that we are not here for our own sakes, but to carry out the divine cosmic plan. We should always remember that when we do something, we are actually carrying out the intentions of the gods, that we are, in a certain sense, the means by which that streaming down from above will go out into the world.” [2] Note, please, that Steiner included himself: He didn't say to the teachers "you" will do so-and-so, he said "we."
The core of the divine cosmic plan, and hence of Waldorf's purpose, entails the future evolution of humankind. (I outline Steiner's fantastic visions of the future in “Everything” and the essays that follow it.) In fulfilling the holy plan of the "gods," Waldorf teachers are directed by religious doctrines. But the religion involved is not orthodox Christianity or any other large, recognizable faith. It is Anthroposophy, the weird faith Steiner himself whipped up (mainly by cribbing from Theosophy [3]). If they are faithful to Steiner, Waldorf teachers work to fulfill Anthroposophy as a faith.
Steiner conducted himself as a religious leader, for example by writing prayers for Waldorf teachers and students to recite, in unison, in school. [4] He presented himself as a master of virtually all knowledge, a savant, a clairvoyant guide to the mysteries of the universe.
https://sites.google.com/site/waldorfwatch/weird-waldorf
Steiner presumably knew what the divine plan is, at least in his own opinion; and he spoke of many gods, not one. It would be almost impossible to believe that Steiner made such grandiose and — from an orthodox Christian viewpoint — heretical remarks, except that he did. This conception of Waldorf schooling is so essential, let's look at Steiner's words again, more fully: “Among the faculty, we must certainly carry within us the knowledge that we are not here for our own sakes, but to carry out the divine cosmic plan. We should always remember that when we do something, we are actually carrying out the intentions of the gods, that we are, in a certain sense, the means by which that streaming down from above will go out into the world.” [2] Note, please, that Steiner included himself: He didn't say to the teachers "you" will do so-and-so, he said "we."
The core of the divine cosmic plan, and hence of Waldorf's purpose, entails the future evolution of humankind. (I outline Steiner's fantastic visions of the future in “Everything” and the essays that follow it.) In fulfilling the holy plan of the "gods," Waldorf teachers are directed by religious doctrines. But the religion involved is not orthodox Christianity or any other large, recognizable faith. It is Anthroposophy, the weird faith Steiner himself whipped up (mainly by cribbing from Theosophy [3]). If they are faithful to Steiner, Waldorf teachers work to fulfill Anthroposophy as a faith.
Steiner conducted himself as a religious leader, for example by writing prayers for Waldorf teachers and students to recite, in unison, in school. [4] He presented himself as a master of virtually all knowledge, a savant, a clairvoyant guide to the mysteries of the universe.
https://sites.google.com/site/waldorfwatch/weird-waldorf
https://sites.google.com/site/waldorfwatch/weird-waldorf
26 September 2017 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but still not much about plants..
" According to Theosophical doctrine, one of the Hierarchy's functions is to oversee the evolution of humankind; in accord with this function the Maitreya is said to hold the so-called Office of the World Teacher. Theosophical texts posit that the purpose of this Office is to facilitate the transfer of knowledge about the true constitution and workings of Existence to humankind. Humanity is thereby assisted on its presumed cyclical, but ever progressive, evolutionary path. Reputedly, one way the knowledge transfer is accomplished is by Maitreya occasionally manifesting or incarnating in the physical realm; the manifested entity then assumes the role of World Teacher of Humankind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitreya_(Theosophy)
" According to Theosophical doctrine, one of the Hierarchy's functions is to oversee the evolution of humankind; in accord with this function the Maitreya is said to hold the so-called Office of the World Teacher. Theosophical texts posit that the purpose of this Office is to facilitate the transfer of knowledge about the true constitution and workings of Existence to humankind. Humanity is thereby assisted on its presumed cyclical, but ever progressive, evolutionary path. Reputedly, one way the knowledge transfer is accomplished is by Maitreya occasionally manifesting or incarnating in the physical realm; the manifested entity then assumes the role of World Teacher of Humankind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitreya_(Theosophy)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitreya_(Theosophy)
26 September 2017 16:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"For Goethe any science based only on physical-material characteristics and then only selected external traits, led to epistemic impoverishment and a reduction of human knowledge.[3]
What was needed was increased ability to derive meaning from voluminous external data by looking at it from a different perspective (a new theoria, from Greek for "way of seeing"). Linnaean taxonomy was already coming under criticism from Comte de Buffon, who argued that this mechanistic classification of the outer forms of nature (natura naturata) needed to be replaced by a study of the interrelation of natural forces and natural historical change.[4]
For Goethe, the production of new knowledge is inseparable from a Geschichte des Denkens und Begreifens, a history of thinking and conceptualization.[3] Knowledge is about association, not about separation, as Coleridge also was at pains to explain in his Essays on Method (see Romantic epistemology).
While arranging material phenomena in logical linear sequence is a valid scientific method, it had to be carried out under a correct and humanistic organizing idea (Bacon's lumen siccum), itself grounded in Nature, or natural law (the foundation of which is polarity).
For Goethe, this organizing idea or archetype could be discerned via a living interaction with Nature, through "the labor of experimentation".[2] For Goethe one does not 'abandon' Nature herself and fancy a mechanism and then test this hypothesis via an 'artificial experience' that 'tears' individual manifestations out of the meaningful context of the whole (Newton's color hypothesis). Instead, the scientist must adopt a more living, more humanistic, approach capable of entering into the living essence of Nature expressed in the phenomenon studied. For Goethe this leads to the crucial underlying archetype-pattern (Ur-phänomen). The Experimenter must allow the phenomena to show their inherent order and logic; which, while often invisible, is clearly objective not subjective, not invented by the experimenter. For Goethe this objective essence was about movement, activity first, material objects only second.
While Goethean Science stands apart from Cartesian-Newtonian Science, in its altered value system regarding quantification, Goethean Science is nonetheless rigorous as to experimental method and the matter of qualities.[2]
Goethe's student and editor of his works, Rudolf Steiner, applied Goethe's methodology of a living approach to Nature to the performing and fine arts. This gives Anthroposophic visual and performing arts their air of going beyond the mere outer form of things (natura naturata) to discern a more inner nature (natura naturans). Steiner hoped to relate the human sphere with all of Nature through the arts; including, the art of Goethean Science.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goethean_science
What was needed was increased ability to derive meaning from voluminous external data by looking at it from a different perspective (a new theoria, from Greek for "way of seeing"). Linnaean taxonomy was already coming under criticism from Comte de Buffon, who argued that this mechanistic classification of the outer forms of nature (natura naturata) needed to be replaced by a study of the interrelation of natural forces and natural historical change.[4]
For Goethe, the production of new knowledge is inseparable from a Geschichte des Denkens und Begreifens, a history of thinking and conceptualization.[3] Knowledge is about association, not about separation, as Coleridge also was at pains to explain in his Essays on Method (see Romantic epistemology).
While arranging material phenomena in logical linear sequence is a valid scientific method, it had to be carried out under a correct and humanistic organizing idea (Bacon's lumen siccum), itself grounded in Nature, or natural law (the foundation of which is polarity).
For Goethe, this organizing idea or archetype could be discerned via a living interaction with Nature, through "the labor of experimentation".[2] For Goethe one does not 'abandon' Nature herself and fancy a mechanism and then test this hypothesis via an 'artificial experience' that 'tears' individual manifestations out of the meaningful context of the whole (Newton's color hypothesis). Instead, the scientist must adopt a more living, more humanistic, approach capable of entering into the living essence of Nature expressed in the phenomenon studied. For Goethe this leads to the crucial underlying archetype-pattern (Ur-phänomen). The Experimenter must allow the phenomena to show their inherent order and logic; which, while often invisible, is clearly objective not subjective, not invented by the experimenter. For Goethe this objective essence was about movement, activity first, material objects only second.
While Goethean Science stands apart from Cartesian-Newtonian Science, in its altered value system regarding quantification, Goethean Science is nonetheless rigorous as to experimental method and the matter of qualities.[2]
Goethe's student and editor of his works, Rudolf Steiner, applied Goethe's methodology of a living approach to Nature to the performing and fine arts. This gives Anthroposophic visual and performing arts their air of going beyond the mere outer form of things (natura naturata) to discern a more inner nature (natura naturans). Steiner hoped to relate the human sphere with all of Nature through the arts; including, the art of Goethean Science.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goethean_science
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goethean_science
26 September 2017 15:57
Margus Meigo replied to Heigo Mägi's comment.
Head iniemsed teevad head, selleks, et hea püsima jääks, eelkõige ka enda südames
26 September 2017 15:33
Margus Meigo replied to Harrys Puusepp's comment.
Jaa see hastag seda laulu tuletas meelde
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3w1_E1V46M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3w1_E1V46M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3w1_E1V46M
26 September 2017 15:33
Margus Meigo commented on Asso Puidet's photo.
.:.
Nu jah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bang-Bang_Club vol2 ? : )
Nu jah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bang-Bang_Club vol2 ? : )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bang-Bang_Club
26 September 2017 15:23
Margus Meigo commented on Hakim Hans-Ludwig Asen-Obermann's photo.
keep the middle one, the extra get rid of
26 September 2017 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(almost works for me, barely surviving sometimes, even with loved ones)
26 September 2017 01:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(so you will have good reallity)
26 September 2017 01:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so make your intention to make good
26 September 2017 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and ON what hopes one bases it all
(considering everyone in best way, who matters)
(considering everyone in best way, who matters)
26 September 2017 01:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
what channels one uses for thoughts inspiration
26 September 2017 01:08
Margus Meigo commented on Mike Juarez's photo.
Is there a important matter what one wants to choose the thoughts for
26 September 2017 01:08
Margus Meigo commented on Myron Connery's post.
26 September 2017 00:44
Margus Meigo commented on Estonian World's post.
"It is all good but just so you know, some day will be bad again"
24 September 2017 12:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Või saate keegi ehk?
21 September 2017 16:57
Margus Meigo commented on Ando Kiviberg's post.
Aga selle Galerii osas, millest jutt, kas piltidele ligi saab ka tasuta kuidagi ?
Uuesti täis galeriina sdaad ülesse laadida?
Uuesti täis galeriina sdaad ülesse laadida?
21 September 2017 16:55
Margus Meigo replied to Tarmo Kruusimäe's comment.
Pealina Teataja teatab siin,
võiks küsida neilt, et mis seos on, see järgmisena plaanis
Nii vähe kui ma tean, isiklikust kohtamisest, ka päris räägitav mees
võiks küsida neilt, et mis seos on, see järgmisena plaanis
Nii vähe kui ma tean, isiklikust kohtamisest, ka päris räägitav mees
21 September 2017 16:42
Margus Meigo commented on Ando Kiviberg's post.
QQ osas tahaks veel rääkida, kas nad selle Ugala aias vanas, korraldatud pervertsusega ka hakkama said, kus teose tipp, redelist ülesse ronides, oli peale segadust riista imev kassetti pilt , eriti mitte romantilises atmosfääris
noortele, avalikult , see selleks aga... ehk puhtamalt järgmine kord?
noortele, avalikult , see selleks aga... ehk puhtamalt järgmine kord?
21 September 2017 16:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
rahuldav seegi
21 September 2017 15:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Liskas seda õpet peaks ka veel tegema, mis moodi psüholoogiliselt ja vaimselt sedasi teiste külge ebareaalseid või kadunud reaalsusi seod, ellu äratad, edasi viid ja mis omakorda teelt mis algselt heasuunaline enamuse meeles, sellest eemale viib ,
sellised psüholoogilised tagajärjed värduudistel ja planeeritud meelte rünnakul või paljastusel
Ja kui veel mõnda laulu ka pannakse..
sellised psüholoogilised tagajärjed värduudistel ja planeeritud meelte rünnakul või paljastusel
Ja kui veel mõnda laulu ka pannakse..
21 September 2017 14:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Pane paar sõna Harri Juhani Aaltonen ? : )
21 September 2017 14:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(irooniat, veel ei tea, kas lisada v mitte)
21 September 2017 14:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(Kuid yeah, #LinnaLeht e tasub uurida, et ega siin eetika piire pole rikutud, või hoopis kiita uuriva ajakirjadusliku julguse ja teostamise eest')
21 September 2017 14:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Helir-Valdor Seeder, Sinu õlul on selles liidus ka terve mõistus, onju Ando Kiviberg ?
Ja õnneks Marko Tiitus IRL-i nimel avalikult avapäeval juba ötles, et Vabamüürlikute inimeste varjuorganizatsioonidel puudub nii Viljandile Eestlusele sobilik või vajalik tegevus.
Kuid ikkagi.. kõigile avalikult kahtlane tundus, kui Eesti oluliseima vanakooli Erakondade oluliseima närvikeskme Linna Eesotsa polnud valmis meest astuma, kes ennast paremaks peaks kui muude Erakondade Esindajad Linnapeakandidaadid.
Kõik polnud küll päris taadid, päris habemetud ja noored enamuses need Linnapead tänapäeval ikka millegi pärast, ja nii lühikest aega oma elust.
( http://www.err.ee/611829/ainult-irl-il-puudub-viljandi-linnapea-kandidaat
)
Eesti Vabade ja Tunnustatud Vabamüürlaste Suurloož
Ja õnneks Marko Tiitus IRL-i nimel avalikult avapäeval juba ötles, et Vabamüürlikute inimeste varjuorganizatsioonidel puudub nii Viljandile Eestlusele sobilik või vajalik tegevus.
Kuid ikkagi.. kõigile avalikult kahtlane tundus, kui Eesti oluliseima vanakooli Erakondade oluliseima närvikeskme Linna Eesotsa polnud valmis meest astuma, kes ennast paremaks peaks kui muude Erakondade Esindajad Linnapeakandidaadid.
Kõik polnud küll päris taadid, päris habemetud ja noored enamuses need Linnapead tänapäeval ikka millegi pärast, ja nii lühikest aega oma elust.
( http://www.err.ee/611829/ainult-irl-il-puudub-viljandi-linnapea-kandidaat
)
Eesti Vabade ja Tunnustatud Vabamüürlaste Suurloož
http://www.err.ee/611829/ainult-irl-il-puudub-viljandi-linnapea-kandidaat
21 September 2017 14:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
21 September 2017 14:08
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Ja #VIljandi s kolmapäeval kell 9 kuni 11 on #IRL il kohvikus #Legend kohaliku omavalimise teemalised arutlused,
( " Olgugi, kui Harri ei sobi Linnapeaks, siis miks IRL sobiks suures plaanis
http://www.pealinn.ee/tagid/koik/podra-tv-naitab-soome-morvararimehe-luksuskorterit-n190657
// kui inimesed 90 ndal riiki üles ehitasid, siis tema alles pummeldas JA oli võõraste naiste jahil. Loodetavasti viisakalt. )
// Ja kui ta selle suure musta allilmaliku Ameerika maasturiga Viljandi tõnaval sõidab,see ka ei aita kuidagi ensetunnetusele ega mulgistumisele kaasa
// kuid muidu Harriga täitsa tavalist asjalikku maaelu juttu ka rääkinud pikalt kohvikus, kuid minu tunnetus ise asi, mis see on mis välja näeb ja mis välja nägema pannakse,
ja kes mis liiduga kokku surutakse hoopis muude jõudude kaudu, kui vaja, kui võimalik, kui rahadega ja raha omanike saab sundida elufilosoofiat muutma peaaegu teistele tavarahvale nähtamatult , ja riigistruktuuridele partamatult seaduslikult, selles osas mida süsteemile kokku lepitakse, et on lubatud näidata
( " Olgugi, kui Harri ei sobi Linnapeaks, siis miks IRL sobiks suures plaanis
http://www.pealinn.ee/tagid/koik/podra-tv-naitab-soome-morvararimehe-luksuskorterit-n190657
// kui inimesed 90 ndal riiki üles ehitasid, siis tema alles pummeldas JA oli võõraste naiste jahil. Loodetavasti viisakalt. )
// Ja kui ta selle suure musta allilmaliku Ameerika maasturiga Viljandi tõnaval sõidab,see ka ei aita kuidagi ensetunnetusele ega mulgistumisele kaasa
// kuid muidu Harriga täitsa tavalist asjalikku maaelu juttu ka rääkinud pikalt kohvikus, kuid minu tunnetus ise asi, mis see on mis välja näeb ja mis välja nägema pannakse,
ja kes mis liiduga kokku surutakse hoopis muude jõudude kaudu, kui vaja, kui võimalik, kui rahadega ja raha omanike saab sundida elufilosoofiat muutma peaaegu teistele tavarahvale nähtamatult , ja riigistruktuuridele partamatult seaduslikult, selles osas mida süsteemile kokku lepitakse, et on lubatud näidata
http://www.pealinn.ee/tagid/koik/podra-tv-naitab-soome-morvararimehe-luksuskorterit-n190657
21 September 2017 14:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Selles osas meil kõigil vedas,
Onju Allar Jõks ?
Kes teadis, et 20ndad nii kähku tulevad ja korduvad
Onju Allar Jõks ?
Kes teadis, et 20ndad nii kähku tulevad ja korduvad
21 September 2017 14:00
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Ilmselgelt
21 September 2017 13:56
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Kas päriselt keegi arvas, et selliste kostüümidega jõuab arutelule lähemale
21 September 2017 13:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(perhaps America is, attempt industrially produce love; genetically and systematically, commercially and politically, produce pop and patriotic, dreamy and real country love
19 September 2017 23:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i mean, between Man and Woman, the deep romantic love, is what need to be generated, to produce power, to help all other places.. as ... we can..
19 September 2017 23:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
@Robert Forte how You feel, is lack of Love between people,. the reason torture , war and poverty exists across the globe,..
Like You know, old India, 80 s or even some other real types of love sounds
Like You know, old India, 80 s or even some other real types of love sounds
19 September 2017 23:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
blue, blue, blue
Regina spectrumil had some thing about, Blue is the tone of Us..
Regina spectrumil had some thing about, Blue is the tone of Us..
19 September 2017 23:11
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
And as symcronizity comes ;
some how it all fits in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9JYiYK70e8&feature=related
some how it all fits in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9JYiYK70e8&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9JYiYK70e8&feature=related
19 September 2017 23:10
Margus Meigo commented on Kaarel Nõmmik's post.
Samad vennad on teinud romantika valdkonnas, armastust selgitava kampaania:
"Kumm On Seks"
"Kumm On Seks"
19 September 2017 22:37
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
https://www.facebook.com/robert.forte.79/posts/10154985482018683
Blue to
Blue to
19 September 2017 22:05
Margus Meigo replied to Jimmie Lee Phillips's comment.
with us
19 September 2017 22:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
potentially
19 September 2017 21:57
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Forte's post.
These people who dance on that music, in middle, will understand the pain / flow, how to flow :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SkY5nnhAiw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SkY5nnhAiw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SkY5nnhAiw
19 September 2017 21:53
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Arandi's comment.
Group: Transport Viljandi <---> Tallinn/ Tartu
Kirjutasin : )15 September 2017 10:22
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Arandi's comment.
Group: Transport Viljandi <---> Tallinn/ Tartu
Soovin Soovin : )15 September 2017 10:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// mitte avalikustada
14 September 2017 19:49
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Tamm's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Mine tea.. ega sa tea, kas see lugu tõde on, et:
" Nu Eestlased käisid ju Inglismaa vastu võitlemas Lõuna aafriklaste poolel,
Saaremal Viikingid isegi sellejärgi maainimestega kooskõlas Puuri tänava nimetanud,.."
Et nagu imerialistide vastu,
seda kuskil euroopa liidu projektis mainiti , EU väliskülalistele meie projektis14 September 2017 09:57
Margus Meigo replied to Kristjan Saal's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
mullamutt on väga hea ja kodumaine14 September 2017 09:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Olenevalt kui kõrget Esoteerikat keegi jagab,
Kui lõvi vabaks laseme/teeme
siis kas see on meie vabadus ?14 September 2017 09:52
Margus Meigo commented on Mati Rebane's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Juhuks kui kellegil PÄRISELT veel täiskasvanutest siin pole arusaama, ja teeme näo nagu see poleks rooma impeeriumi allüksus, siis lubagem täpsustada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Quaterionenadler_David_de_Negker.jpg
ja uurida igast vappe ja nende seoseid, kohe kui, eriti kui mitut korraga näed, nagu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wappen_Kaiser_Joseph_II._1765_(Gro%C3%9F).png
et sellised pildid teatavasti on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coats_of_arms_of_the_Holy_Roman_Empire#Coats_of_arms_of_Holy_Roman_Emperors
// selline mõte tuli veel agselt, muidugi enam nii käredalt eip mõtle
Kuid nagu selleks peab ikka päris kartuliks söönud olema, kui hakata filosofeerima, et lõvid saavad olla praeguses ebavaimses jumalakauges maailmas Eestile kodupäraste võimude sümbol märkimaks kes meil siin on,.
isegi karu oleks lähedamhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Quaterionenadler_David_de_Negker.jpg
14 September 2017 09:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kooli õppele registreerimine avatud varsti : )
Varsti, varsti, varsti
päris elutsi kui ka onlainitsi
Varsti, varsti, varsti
päris elutsi kui ka onlainitsi
14 September 2017 09:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
et siis jah,
algul oli plaan öelda: Panen sinna tammetõru , asendan tammetõruga, mis enda meigo pere vapilt14 September 2017 09:19
Margus Meigo commented on Mati Rebane's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Mis nutate, hea, et Kotkas veel pole, väärakas värd kahepealine kotkas,
Sellist mida normaalses looduses ei ole,
Kuid kui õiget usku olla siis leiab ikka suuri tõestusi imelikest olenditest, mille tegevuste salvestamiseks eraldi asutus Vatikan sai loodud, mis omakorda rahva silmis vanasti arvati iseotsapidi olema kirikuusk ise,
kuid habemetud ju14 September 2017 09:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See laul veel oli vaja nii.. Nii panna kuskile...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N__gZw3DaTo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N__gZw3DaTo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N__gZw3DaTo
14 September 2017 09:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ikka Jää endaks!
14 September 2017 09:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
emotsioone ja veel ühte teist aga väljendada liialt rakse on, ilma, et enda kaela kohe tõmbaksid kõiki paljusi eriti pingsalt, mida lähemal seda rohkem
mingite arvutuste ajutiste järgi
aga reaalsuses, ma veel vaatan eemalt, mis see reaalsus ikka on, kas on mõõdupuu ja mis moodi, mis tingimustel
mingite arvutuste ajutiste järgi
aga reaalsuses, ma veel vaatan eemalt, mis see reaalsus ikka on, kas on mõõdupuu ja mis moodi, mis tingimustel
14 September 2017 09:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
isegi kui see illusioone, sest olulisus oluliseim enda väärikuse kaotamisest väärõigete suil, et õiglust säilitada
14 September 2017 09:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ennetlik ärritus on normaalne
oluilise märkamise osas
oluilise märkamise osas
14 September 2017 09:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ega inglis keeles paremini kõla, arvasin, et see juba see kes meil siin eestis kallsitamas käis,
kahtlesin juba et miski enese mahajätmis koolitustega idakunstid jälle nahisevad meie salude vahel
kahtlesin juba et miski enese mahajätmis koolitustega idakunstid jälle nahisevad meie salude vahel
14 September 2017 09:09
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
(kõik muu muidu on sama, tagi isegi, aga kaabu habeme vasta vahetatud on, nii parem, soojem südameski)
14 September 2017 09:06
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
Vat see on ilus!
14 September 2017 09:06
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
Sellest saab meie suvi :D
14 September 2017 09:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Et nagu Luule,
pigem eelkõige oli mõetud,
Kuid reaalne Luule ainukene see millel eesmärk nii suur ja päris
Ise seda jälle uuesti tunentada, ei tea
aga samas hea, et kergendus nii olulise sai salvestatud,
ka iseendale leitavasse moodusesse,
iseasi kas tunnetatavasse,
kuid sellegi poolest miinimum effort maximaalselt nii potensiaalselt olulise ilusa või vajaliku osas
pigem eelkõige oli mõetud,
Kuid reaalne Luule ainukene see millel eesmärk nii suur ja päris
Ise seda jälle uuesti tunentada, ei tea
aga samas hea, et kergendus nii olulise sai salvestatud,
ka iseendale leitavasse moodusesse,
iseasi kas tunnetatavasse,
kuid sellegi poolest miinimum effort maximaalselt nii potensiaalselt olulise ilusa või vajaliku osas
14 September 2017 09:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Pre 60s snap
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200175229640196&set=t.1135161043&type=3&size=1154%2C2048
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200175229640196&set=t.1135161043&type=3&size=1154%2C2048
14 September 2017 09:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Dr. Dyyne
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205218671283085&set=t.1135161043&type=3&size=365%2C400
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205218671283085&set=t.1135161043&type=3&size=365%2C400
14 September 2017 08:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ok, VB ka http://www.kasvukesa.eu/files/Tunnetekeel.%20Margus.Meigo%20(4).pdf
// Siia lisaks, See PD pold algne plaan aga nüüd näib elementaarne kasulik/vajalik, õige lisa olema
Kuigi sedasi nagu veaks pikaks jälle, samas piisavalt kiiresti mingi asja pointini ikkagi
Ka Elgo
// Siia lisaks, See PD pold algne plaan aga nüüd näib elementaarne kasulik/vajalik, õige lisa olema
Kuigi sedasi nagu veaks pikaks jälle, samas piisavalt kiiresti mingi asja pointini ikkagi
Ka Elgo
14 September 2017 08:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
14 September 2017 08:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
pilt 44
// siit järgnevad postitused, ja eelneva rohesini postiuse peale esimest kahte kommentari järjestikku, mul polnud rohkem plaan miskit lisada, nii igaks juhuks selel märke ka kasulikuse mõttes siia nii praeguseks kui ka muuks tuelvikuks vast tarviline, saab võimalik, et olema, kuigi eip looda nii, kuid armsalt arvame, et kui pigem on siis hästi, heaks
// siit järgnevad postitused, ja eelneva rohesini postiuse peale esimest kahte kommentari järjestikku, mul polnud rohkem plaan miskit lisada, nii igaks juhuks selel märke ka kasulikuse mõttes siia nii praeguseks kui ka muuks tuelvikuks vast tarviline, saab võimalik, et olema, kuigi eip looda nii, kuid armsalt arvame, et kui pigem on siis hästi, heaks
14 September 2017 08:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
kas see saab olla
mu Naine kes
mind kahtlustab
kes kahtleb kas tahan
// ära siis kahtle, siis pole puudutatud //
igal oma selgusmomendil
Tal ainult Head?
"TA See sama, kes
"Nagu tüüpiline Naine"
toob korduvalt ülesse
äraselgitatud vead, Nagu mäluhäire
ja/voi midagi veeel ulmelisemat, sest
kuidas saab Nii tark olen/olevus, keski, käituda Nii heatahtlikuse loogika vastaselt
[kas sellepärast mehed loogilised, et
kas see saab olla
mu Naine kes
mind kahtlustab
kes kahtleb kas tahan
// ära siis kahtle, siis pole puudutatud //
igal oma selgusmomendil
Tal ainult Head?
"TA See sama, kes
"Nagu tüüpiline Naine"
toob korduvalt ülesse
äraselgitatud vead, Nagu mäluhäire
ja/voi midagi veeel ulmelisemat, sest
kuidas saab Nii tark olen/olevus, keski, käituda Nii heatahtlikuse loogika vastaselt
[kas sellepärast mehed loogilised, et
14 September 2017 08:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kas see saab olla
mu Naine kes
mind kahtlustab
kes kahtleb kas tahan
// ära siis kahtle, siis pole puudutatud //
igal oma selgusmomendil
Tal ainult Head?
mu Naine kes
mind kahtlustab
kes kahtleb kas tahan
// ära siis kahtle, siis pole puudutatud //
igal oma selgusmomendil
Tal ainult Head?
14 September 2017 08:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
UUENDUS:
Need inimesed mis selle lause ÕIGEKIRJAST, SÕNASÕNALT
ei ole mõistnud, et tegu MITMUSES osapoote suunaline,
Need inimesed mis selle lause ÕIGEKIRJAST, SÕNASÕNALT
ei ole mõistnud, et tegu MITMUSES osapoote suunaline,
12 September 2017 16:59
Margus Meigo commented on Lihtsalt Katarina's post.
Group: Rahvameditsiin ja teadmised
Jamaikalased vist ei näivat kurtma12 September 2017 08:04
Margus Meigo commented on Priyanshu Sahay's post.
Group: Hackers Online Club (HOC)
We should collect All medical hacking and special section POTENTIAL hacking of medical, in to one website, for history to see11 September 2017 12:45
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Eesti kastmes,
Põrgupõhja vanapagan tegelikuylt oli hea algus,
kus kurat oli saatana kimpus, kuid sellele vaja nüüd ümbritsev mantel selge õmmelda, selgitustega, mis siis see on mis praegu on ja mis edasi saab ja tegema peab, puust ja .. nu ega värv polegi oluline, peaasi, et on sinine või roheline ( :d ) / Tõene ja Naturaalne
hädapärast roosa ka sobib
Põrgupõhja vanapagan tegelikuylt oli hea algus,
kus kurat oli saatana kimpus, kuid sellele vaja nüüd ümbritsev mantel selge õmmelda, selgitustega, mis siis see on mis praegu on ja mis edasi saab ja tegema peab, puust ja .. nu ega värv polegi oluline, peaasi, et on sinine või roheline ( :d ) / Tõene ja Naturaalne
hädapärast roosa ka sobib
11 September 2017 12:37
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Avalikult arusaadavaid, tõsiseid vaimse sõja poolseid filme sooviks muidu rohkem kes julgeksid Kristlust reaalse lõpp ideoloogiate summana käsitleda
11 September 2017 12:34
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
reaalsus on alati hea vaheldus
11 September 2017 12:33
Margus Meigo replied to Sass Vask's comment.
See muidugi nalja pilt, aga nagu teame, on olendeid meessoo kehades, kes reaalselt käivatki headust likvideerimas saades omakorda rahulolutunde kui keegi jäi allapoole, selleasemel, et keegi paremaks oleks saanud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaAWdljhD5o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaAWdljhD5o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaAWdljhD5o
11 September 2017 12:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Asi aga selles, et kõige madalamal astmel, kaabakas, kes on Jumalameelne, on endiselt olulisemal kohal hingealleshoidmise ja teistele headuse mõttes kui suur võimupositsioonil jumalatud,
kelle suu küll räägib isegi vaimsusest (vaimsusel pole muidugi suurt pistmist Jumala teel olemisega ilmtingimatta) kuid kelle teod oma ise enda ja teiste hingetempli, keha vastased,
kelle jutud ja soovid, lause algused on nii MINA kesksed selleasemel, et planeerida kuidas Teistel veel parem oleks, nii neil kes meist paremad kui need kellel veel raskem.
Keskendumise suund ja fookus ei ole ideaalse suunas siis ju on sama hea kui seisak,
iga plaan ja soov suures plaanis peaks ikka sellega olema seotud, kuidas see on selleks parim mida vaja päriselt kõigile, kahtlematult
kelle suu küll räägib isegi vaimsusest (vaimsusel pole muidugi suurt pistmist Jumala teel olemisega ilmtingimatta) kuid kelle teod oma ise enda ja teiste hingetempli, keha vastased,
kelle jutud ja soovid, lause algused on nii MINA kesksed selleasemel, et planeerida kuidas Teistel veel parem oleks, nii neil kes meist paremad kui need kellel veel raskem.
Keskendumise suund ja fookus ei ole ideaalse suunas siis ju on sama hea kui seisak,
iga plaan ja soov suures plaanis peaks ikka sellega olema seotud, kuidas see on selleks parim mida vaja päriselt kõigile, kahtlematult
11 September 2017 12:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Taavi Timm Nu vot maailma viga praeguses ilmas mu arust see ongi, et võrdsustatakse naisi meestega.
Mehed ja Naised ikka erinevad, kuni saavad abikaasadeks,
Ja Jumalikus liidus abikaasad perega omakorda ei ole sama mis mees või naine vaid ikka aste kõrgemal.
See ju nii elementaarne
Mulle endiselt tundub see uhkuse tipp mehes, kui ta hakkab arvama, et ta ennast sama olulisena nägema peaks kui Naine
ja endiselt arvan, et iga Jumalapoolse mehe kohus on Julgeda Naises kõik ta olulisemad kõverdeed välja tuua, mitte teeselda, et see on armastus kui lased inimesel teadmatuses teha asju mis tema sidet maailmaga takistab, mis ebavajalikud selleks, et olla Naturaalne (millest omakorda tekivad ohtlikud olukorrad, teelt kõrvale minnes, mis võivad lõpuks kogu arusaamise ja tundemaailma nii sassi ajada, et tekivad tõsised hingehaavad kuni füüsilises maailmas haigetsaamiseni)
Mehed ja Naised ikka erinevad, kuni saavad abikaasadeks,
Ja Jumalikus liidus abikaasad perega omakorda ei ole sama mis mees või naine vaid ikka aste kõrgemal.
See ju nii elementaarne
Mulle endiselt tundub see uhkuse tipp mehes, kui ta hakkab arvama, et ta ennast sama olulisena nägema peaks kui Naine
ja endiselt arvan, et iga Jumalapoolse mehe kohus on Julgeda Naises kõik ta olulisemad kõverdeed välja tuua, mitte teeselda, et see on armastus kui lased inimesel teadmatuses teha asju mis tema sidet maailmaga takistab, mis ebavajalikud selleks, et olla Naturaalne (millest omakorda tekivad ohtlikud olukorrad, teelt kõrvale minnes, mis võivad lõpuks kogu arusaamise ja tundemaailma nii sassi ajada, et tekivad tõsised hingehaavad kuni füüsilises maailmas haigetsaamiseni)
11 September 2017 12:00
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
(häästi natuke veel kahtlen muus, et vb võimalik ka osasi hingesi kaotada... kuid seda veel uurib.. praegu mida ei tea, loodan parimat)
11 September 2017 10:33
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Eks Nad kõik ole .. kes selles maailmas veel elavad kes Usaldada oskavad ja ausust hindavad ning arusaavad, et maailm vaja korda saada, ka teiste jaoks.
Ja need kes selles veel pole.. varem või hiljem saavad olema, saavad, teeme kõik vabaks, üks kõik kuhu sügavusse keegi peidetud, hingevalgust ei saa ükski tehnioloogia lõlikult peita, usun
Ja need kes selles veel pole.. varem või hiljem saavad olema, saavad, teeme kõik vabaks, üks kõik kuhu sügavusse keegi peidetud, hingevalgust ei saa ükski tehnioloogia lõlikult peita, usun
11 September 2017 10:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui enesekeskse vaimu küüsis keegi peab olema, et ainuisikuliselt iseenda suunalist isiklikku rünnakut selles postituses näha?
Ilma selle juhtumiseta, ei teakski kindlalt, et see võimalik on:
__ Algne post, reaktsioon:
WAU,
Ja sain eile selle postituse pärast ISIKLIKU in real life rünnaku ja sõimu ühe tuttava Naise käest, et miks ma TEMAST kirjutasin sedasi "AVALIKU LAIMU" .
(kohe ma ei saanud asjale pihta aga peagi taipasin.. et ju see vaim..tunnetas..)
Ja siis veel täna kirja ka sinna otsa,
et "Kui Su jaoks Naised pühad on siis kuidas sellise laimu said kirjutada"
Ma pole küll filoloog aga sõnum veelgi keeleliselt selgem ju kui ma ise arvasin, et see mis Vaimust tuli.. tulin ehmatusega siis üle lugema.. ja vaatan.. nu puhta see mis plaanis oli ju, mis kokku võtab Selle Vaimu süsteemi.
Ehk annate paar head soovitust, mida selle
... mida selle otsa siis veel teha
Et see läks siis küll ikka osade vaimude pihta päris täppi,
____
kuidas muidugi Naisi taoliste vangistuste käest päästa ilma suure hulga maagiliste seenteta, metsas, kahekesi... on teine küsimus.. palved ja Jumalaabi ka.. aga kui seened ongi jumalaabi..
Ilma selle juhtumiseta, ei teakski kindlalt, et see võimalik on:
__ Algne post, reaktsioon:
WAU,
Ja sain eile selle postituse pärast ISIKLIKU in real life rünnaku ja sõimu ühe tuttava Naise käest, et miks ma TEMAST kirjutasin sedasi "AVALIKU LAIMU" .
(kohe ma ei saanud asjale pihta aga peagi taipasin.. et ju see vaim..tunnetas..)
Ja siis veel täna kirja ka sinna otsa,
et "Kui Su jaoks Naised pühad on siis kuidas sellise laimu said kirjutada"
Ma pole küll filoloog aga sõnum veelgi keeleliselt selgem ju kui ma ise arvasin, et see mis Vaimust tuli.. tulin ehmatusega siis üle lugema.. ja vaatan.. nu puhta see mis plaanis oli ju, mis kokku võtab Selle Vaimu süsteemi.
Ehk annate paar head soovitust, mida selle
... mida selle otsa siis veel teha
Et see läks siis küll ikka osade vaimude pihta päris täppi,
____
kuidas muidugi Naisi taoliste vangistuste käest päästa ilma suure hulga maagiliste seenteta, metsas, kahekesi... on teine küsimus.. palved ja Jumalaabi ka.. aga kui seened ongi jumalaabi..
11 September 2017 10:30
Margus Meigo commented on Falisa Stell's post.
Trueõ
10 September 2017 14:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
suitsu pärast tulnukad ta karistuseks pigem ära likvideerisid vähiga
10 September 2017 14:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mittte, et ta suitsetamist oleks reaalselt promonud
10 September 2017 14:36
Margus Meigo commented on Waniel Young's photo.
Vot see on üks oluline mees,
kui vaid maailm piisavalt arenenud oleks arusaamistes, et ta õpetuste kohaselt julgeks ka seeni süüa nii kuis vaja... siis oleks maailmal juba lootus järgmiste põlvede normaalsuse osas
kui vaid maailm piisavalt arenenud oleks arusaamistes, et ta õpetuste kohaselt julgeks ka seeni süüa nii kuis vaja... siis oleks maailmal juba lootus järgmiste põlvede normaalsuse osas
10 September 2017 14:35
Margus Meigo commented on Jaik Willis's post.
Oh sa raks, märkasin et Onioniuudis, juba mõtlesin, et päris uudis :D
10 September 2017 14:33
Margus Meigo commented on Rene Rene Renks Renks's photo.
Mida ta huvitav remondib sääl
10 September 2017 14:31
Margus Meigo commented on Prince Victor Implications's post.
Amen
10 September 2017 14:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
pannes naist uskuma, et nemad ongi naine ja nende mõtted naise enda olemus
ja hoia selle eest.. kui sellistele .. nende hinges lähedale jõudma hakkad.. siis haarab kogu naise, mis tast veel on ja saadab kogu tule ja pisaratega su kõige haavatumate kohtade suunas selliselt, et kui veel haiget ei saa on südantlõhestav solvang ja kui saad siis on põlastuslik üleolevus külmusega
ja hoia selle eest.. kui sellistele .. nende hinges lähedale jõudma hakkad.. siis haarab kogu naise, mis tast veel on ja saadab kogu tule ja pisaratega su kõige haavatumate kohtade suunas selliselt, et kui veel haiget ei saa on südantlõhestav solvang ja kui saad siis on põlastuslik üleolevus külmusega
10 September 2017 14:18
Margus Meigo commented on Mare Imral's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Sellised " tehnoloogilised äpardused" tuleb ekraani videosse võtta, ja neid tõestusi koguma hakata, muidu arvatakse, et skisod.
ON ekraani täis salvestjaid tasuta kuid piisab ka mobiilist,
osad ekraanid jäävad virvendama ainult kuid midagi ikak peale jääb, seda tehke kindlasti.-. ja siis mõtleme mingi #tagi välja läbi mille neid klippe ja tõestusi saab leidma hakata YTst, twiterist ja eriti FPst. mis need kenasti kokku filtreerib.
näiteks " #Ebatehnoloogiline " + minig toetav tag mis eemist seletaks #petutehnoloogia #liberaalhäkkerid #tulemustevõltsimine vms
lepime miskit kokku (petutehnoloogia on päris hea mu arustr)9 September 2017 23:04
Margus Meigo commented on Margus Meigo's post.
Eks Näis Eks Näis : )
9 September 2017 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja teine pool meediast:
// hiljem lõpuni
// hiljem lõpuni
9 September 2017 13:45
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Jaga piiblikoht ka : )
Meil koolis oli just vanatestamendi tunde, kaks päeva järjest. Kus Maa Loomisest rääkisime, joonistasime ja üks laps isegi 120 aastase piibli kooli tõi : ))
Meil koolis oli just vanatestamendi tunde, kaks päeva järjest. Kus Maa Loomisest rääkisime, joonistasime ja üks laps isegi 120 aastase piibli kooli tõi : ))
9 September 2017 13:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga jah, ma saaksin paari tuhande euroga kindlasti mitmetes kordades rohkem MÕTETSTATUD vaatajaid mitmetele olulistele Eesti mõtlejatele
9 September 2017 06:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tegelik reaalsus aga vaatajate hulgass on selline
500 kuni 800 vaatajat
6x33 videot praegu, see hulk aasta jooksul iseenesest suht okey
544 kaaskanali liitujat
/(vorrelge seda nüüd eesti tavaliste teismeliste YT kanlitega, kes ei saa Selliseid toetajaid..)
--
kellest üle kümne koguvad oma videotele vähemalt 100 000 vaatamist kuus. Näiteks on viimase 30 päeva populaarseim kanal Maria Vlogid, mis kuu ajaga on kogunud üle 365 000 vaatamise. Aasta tagasi loodud kanali videotel on vaatamisi kokku üle 2,2 miljoni.
" Viimase 30 päeva jooksul (27.09-26.10.2016) on üle 100 000 vaatamise kogunud 11 Eesti youtuberit...
Mõnel on 14 millionit vaatamist...
HDTanelil 17 millionit peaaegu... (https://www.youtube.com/user/HDTanel/about)
Videode vaatamise arv 700 tuhat.. 200 tuhandesi mitmeid..
Okey pärast uurin mondasi millel päris sisu ka on.. mis eestimaine ainult, liste mitmeid ( http://videoturundus.ee/eesti-youtuberite-edetabelid/ / http://videoturundus.ee/top100-youtube-kanalit-eestis/ )
Märkimisväärne on, et Põhja Tallina muusika grupil on rohkem vaatamisi kui Eesti Rahvus Ringhäälingul... http://videoturundus.ee/eesti-populaarseimad-youtube-kanalid/ .. et siinkohal jah... tuleb arusaaada, kohtasi veel mille kaudu ja kelle kaudu me hingi elus hoida : )
500 kuni 800 vaatajat
6x33 videot praegu, see hulk aasta jooksul iseenesest suht okey
544 kaaskanali liitujat
/(vorrelge seda nüüd eesti tavaliste teismeliste YT kanlitega, kes ei saa Selliseid toetajaid..)
--
kellest üle kümne koguvad oma videotele vähemalt 100 000 vaatamist kuus. Näiteks on viimase 30 päeva populaarseim kanal Maria Vlogid, mis kuu ajaga on kogunud üle 365 000 vaatamise. Aasta tagasi loodud kanali videotel on vaatamisi kokku üle 2,2 miljoni.
" Viimase 30 päeva jooksul (27.09-26.10.2016) on üle 100 000 vaatamise kogunud 11 Eesti youtuberit...
Mõnel on 14 millionit vaatamist...
HDTanelil 17 millionit peaaegu... (https://www.youtube.com/user/HDTanel/about)
Videode vaatamise arv 700 tuhat.. 200 tuhandesi mitmeid..
Okey pärast uurin mondasi millel päris sisu ka on.. mis eestimaine ainult, liste mitmeid ( http://videoturundus.ee/eesti-youtuberite-edetabelid/ / http://videoturundus.ee/top100-youtube-kanalit-eestis/ )
Märkimisväärne on, et Põhja Tallina muusika grupil on rohkem vaatamisi kui Eesti Rahvus Ringhäälingul... http://videoturundus.ee/eesti-populaarseimad-youtube-kanalid/ .. et siinkohal jah... tuleb arusaaada, kohtasi veel mille kaudu ja kelle kaudu me hingi elus hoida : )
9 September 2017 05:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
9 September 2017 05:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
OKey, sajad tuhanded eurod aastas toetusi, kümned tuhanded külastajad kuus,
..või mis IGA päev kümned tuhanded...
ja KOKKU pika ajaga, te ei saa rohkem kui 900, kuni 1000 vaatajat oma OLULISEMATE inimeste videodele nagu Ülo Vooglaid ja Einar Laigna ??
Sellise asja eest tahaks vasta kaalikat anda.
Siin siis üle poole aasta vana, OLULISEIMAID Vooglaiu video, mis seletab KOGU konservatiivsust, Teie lehe olemust,
ja kuna ise olen seda kindlasti üle 10 ne korra vaadanud, ja rohkem kui 10 nele inimesele saatnud,
(kellest ka nii mõnigi seda mitu korda on vaadanud..) siis KUIDAS saab sellel olla u. 950 vaatamist kokku ainult KUI te päriselt,, kui te PÄRISELT neid asju proovite inimestele selgeks teha, näidata ??
0 kommentaari ja selline hulk vaatajaid ainult?
Mh ??
..või mis IGA päev kümned tuhanded...
ja KOKKU pika ajaga, te ei saa rohkem kui 900, kuni 1000 vaatajat oma OLULISEMATE inimeste videodele nagu Ülo Vooglaid ja Einar Laigna ??
Sellise asja eest tahaks vasta kaalikat anda.
Siin siis üle poole aasta vana, OLULISEIMAID Vooglaiu video, mis seletab KOGU konservatiivsust, Teie lehe olemust,
ja kuna ise olen seda kindlasti üle 10 ne korra vaadanud, ja rohkem kui 10 nele inimesele saatnud,
(kellest ka nii mõnigi seda mitu korda on vaadanud..) siis KUIDAS saab sellel olla u. 950 vaatamist kokku ainult KUI te päriselt,, kui te PÄRISELT neid asju proovite inimestele selgeks teha, näidata ??
0 kommentaari ja selline hulk vaatajaid ainult?
Mh ??
9 September 2017 05:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
28. aprill 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/markus-jarvi-aidake-meil-kulvata-lootust-ja-toetage-objektiivi-oma-annetusega/
"Avasime portaali möödunud aasta 19. oktoobril. Sellest ajast on seda külastatud rohkem kui 675 000 korda enam kui veerandi miljoni kasutaja poolt.
Keskmiselt on portaali külastatud päevas 3700 korda.
Argipäeviti on tavaline, et portaali külastatakse 3000–7000 korral ning nii mõnigi kord on päevane külastuste arv jäänud vahemikku 10 000 kuni 12 000 "
// miks ei või stati avalikuks teha ?
"Me peame laienema, et pakkuda vasakliberaalsele meediale tõelist konkurentsi. Seda suudame teha vaid uusi toimetuse liikmeid juurde palgates ja portaali sisuliselt ja tehniliselt edasi arendades. Selleks aga on meil vaja rahalisi vahendeid."
27. aprill 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/hea-lugeja-objektiiv-vajab-sinu-tuge/
"2015. aasta oktoobris hakkas tegutsema uus uudiste- ja arvamusportaal Objektiiv, mis kuulub Sihtasutusele Perekonna ja Traditsiooni Kaitseks (SAPTK). Portaali toimetus on kolmeliikmeline: Veiko Vihuri (peatoimetaja), Markus Järvi (toimetaja) ja Varro Vooglaid (SAPTK juhatuse esimees), kuid meie kaastööliste ja abiliste ring on mõnevõrra laiem.
Toetades konservatiivset maailmavaadet ja traditsioonilisi väärtusi, mis on olnud meie kultuuri ja ühiskonna aluseks juba väga pikka aega, ei ole portaal Objektiiv siiski ühegi erakonna häälekandja. Samuti ei lähtu Objektiiv ärihuvidest – me ei avalda kommertstekste ja reklaami. Nagu ütleme oma tutvustuses, tahame pakkuda platvormi eeskätt niisugustele vaadetele, mis on kooskõlas meie kultuuri alusväärtustega, kuid mis on liberaalses ja vasakule kallutatud peavoolumeedias tugevalt alaesindatud. Püüame kaitsta Eesti kultuurilist järjepidevust ning selle aluseks olevaid keskseid tõdesid"
aprill 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/objektiiv-vajab-lugejate-toetust/
" Portaali tuleviku seisukohast on tegu kriitiliselt tähtsa kampaaniaga."
"...meie portaalis ei ole reklaame ning meil puudub ka riiklik toetus.
Ühelt poolt annab see meile suure vabaduse, kuna me ei ole allutatud survele teenida kasumit või teostada poliitilist tellimust. Objektiivi näol on tegu puhtalt aatelise, missioonist kantud ja mittetulundusliku ettevõtmisega, mis lähtub siirast soovist seista kultuurisõja tingimustes ausale tõetaotlusele tuginedes ühiskonna alusväärtuste kaitsel"
// Nagu see positiivne oleks, et Riiklik toetus puudub ??
märts 2016
Kokkuvõte SAPTK tegevusest 2015. aastal
http://objektiiv.ee/kokkuvote-saptk-tegevusest-2015-aastal/
"2015. aastal toetus meie sihtasutuse rahastamine üksnes kohalikele annetajatele ning ülekaalukas enamus meie sihtasutuse tuludest moodustub tuhandete väikeannetajate panusest. Kui 2013. aastal toetas meie tegevuse ülesehitamist meie sõprade juhtimisel Poolas tegutsev Piotr Skarga Instituut, siis 2014. ja 2015. aastal ei ole me enam välismaiseid annetusi saanud ja sõltume üksnes eesti eraisikutest annetajate toetusest. "
// Kus on lingid nende tarvis kes huvitunud asjast, mis niisama kirjutad? Uskuma peavad lihtsalt kõik ilma, et nad vaadata saaksid?
18. oktoober 2015
http://objektiiv.ee/juhtkiri-objektiiv-alustab/
" Sihtasutuse Perekonna ja Traditsiooni Kaitseks uudiste- ja arvamusportaal Objektiiv astub 19. oktoobril lugejate ette "
"Uus portaal ei tekkinud tühjale kohale, vaid toetub aastatepikkusele kogemusele, mille toimetuse liikmed on saanud portaalide De Civitate ja Meie Kirik toimetamisel ning raadiosaadete ja videokommentaaride tegemisel. Kuna Objektiiv.ee otseseks eelkäijaks on aastatel 2010–2015 tegutsenud portaal De Civitate (“Ühiskonnast”), siis on uues portaalis kättesaadavaks tehtud ka selles ilmunud artiklid. Viimased lood ilmusid De Civitates 2015. aasta algul, alates käesoleva aasta oktoobrist avaldatakse uusi materjale juba portaali Objektiiv nime all."
// Jällegi, kus on lingid vanale materialile?
http://objektiiv.ee/markus-jarvi-aidake-meil-kulvata-lootust-ja-toetage-objektiivi-oma-annetusega/
"Avasime portaali möödunud aasta 19. oktoobril. Sellest ajast on seda külastatud rohkem kui 675 000 korda enam kui veerandi miljoni kasutaja poolt.
Keskmiselt on portaali külastatud päevas 3700 korda.
Argipäeviti on tavaline, et portaali külastatakse 3000–7000 korral ning nii mõnigi kord on päevane külastuste arv jäänud vahemikku 10 000 kuni 12 000 "
// miks ei või stati avalikuks teha ?
"Me peame laienema, et pakkuda vasakliberaalsele meediale tõelist konkurentsi. Seda suudame teha vaid uusi toimetuse liikmeid juurde palgates ja portaali sisuliselt ja tehniliselt edasi arendades. Selleks aga on meil vaja rahalisi vahendeid."
27. aprill 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/hea-lugeja-objektiiv-vajab-sinu-tuge/
"2015. aasta oktoobris hakkas tegutsema uus uudiste- ja arvamusportaal Objektiiv, mis kuulub Sihtasutusele Perekonna ja Traditsiooni Kaitseks (SAPTK). Portaali toimetus on kolmeliikmeline: Veiko Vihuri (peatoimetaja), Markus Järvi (toimetaja) ja Varro Vooglaid (SAPTK juhatuse esimees), kuid meie kaastööliste ja abiliste ring on mõnevõrra laiem.
Toetades konservatiivset maailmavaadet ja traditsioonilisi väärtusi, mis on olnud meie kultuuri ja ühiskonna aluseks juba väga pikka aega, ei ole portaal Objektiiv siiski ühegi erakonna häälekandja. Samuti ei lähtu Objektiiv ärihuvidest – me ei avalda kommertstekste ja reklaami. Nagu ütleme oma tutvustuses, tahame pakkuda platvormi eeskätt niisugustele vaadetele, mis on kooskõlas meie kultuuri alusväärtustega, kuid mis on liberaalses ja vasakule kallutatud peavoolumeedias tugevalt alaesindatud. Püüame kaitsta Eesti kultuurilist järjepidevust ning selle aluseks olevaid keskseid tõdesid"
aprill 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/objektiiv-vajab-lugejate-toetust/
" Portaali tuleviku seisukohast on tegu kriitiliselt tähtsa kampaaniaga."
"...meie portaalis ei ole reklaame ning meil puudub ka riiklik toetus.
Ühelt poolt annab see meile suure vabaduse, kuna me ei ole allutatud survele teenida kasumit või teostada poliitilist tellimust. Objektiivi näol on tegu puhtalt aatelise, missioonist kantud ja mittetulundusliku ettevõtmisega, mis lähtub siirast soovist seista kultuurisõja tingimustes ausale tõetaotlusele tuginedes ühiskonna alusväärtuste kaitsel"
// Nagu see positiivne oleks, et Riiklik toetus puudub ??
märts 2016
Kokkuvõte SAPTK tegevusest 2015. aastal
http://objektiiv.ee/kokkuvote-saptk-tegevusest-2015-aastal/
"2015. aastal toetus meie sihtasutuse rahastamine üksnes kohalikele annetajatele ning ülekaalukas enamus meie sihtasutuse tuludest moodustub tuhandete väikeannetajate panusest. Kui 2013. aastal toetas meie tegevuse ülesehitamist meie sõprade juhtimisel Poolas tegutsev Piotr Skarga Instituut, siis 2014. ja 2015. aastal ei ole me enam välismaiseid annetusi saanud ja sõltume üksnes eesti eraisikutest annetajate toetusest. "
// Kus on lingid nende tarvis kes huvitunud asjast, mis niisama kirjutad? Uskuma peavad lihtsalt kõik ilma, et nad vaadata saaksid?
18. oktoober 2015
http://objektiiv.ee/juhtkiri-objektiiv-alustab/
" Sihtasutuse Perekonna ja Traditsiooni Kaitseks uudiste- ja arvamusportaal Objektiiv astub 19. oktoobril lugejate ette "
"Uus portaal ei tekkinud tühjale kohale, vaid toetub aastatepikkusele kogemusele, mille toimetuse liikmed on saanud portaalide De Civitate ja Meie Kirik toimetamisel ning raadiosaadete ja videokommentaaride tegemisel. Kuna Objektiiv.ee otseseks eelkäijaks on aastatel 2010–2015 tegutsenud portaal De Civitate (“Ühiskonnast”), siis on uues portaalis kättesaadavaks tehtud ka selles ilmunud artiklid. Viimased lood ilmusid De Civitates 2015. aasta algul, alates käesoleva aasta oktoobrist avaldatakse uusi materjale juba portaali Objektiiv nime all."
// Jällegi, kus on lingid vanale materialile?
http://objektiiv.ee/markus-jarvi-aidake-meil-kulvata-lootust-ja-toetage-objektiivi-oma-annetusega/
9 September 2017 05:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
15. veebruar 2017
http://objektiiv.ee/portaal-objektiiv-avas-videostuudio/
"13. veebruaril, avas portaali Objektiiv toimetus videostuudio. Samal päeval peetud väikesel vastuvõtul meenutati sõpradele ja toetajatele meie väljaande missiooni ja tänati suuremaid annetajaid.
"Stuudios said sõna ka mitmed teised külalised, kellega salvestatud usutlusi võib näha juba lähipäevadel. "
// avatuse mottes võiks stuudio enda osas olla ka tehnilised infod jms kulud, kas iniemstel seadmeid lubati annetada?
23. november 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/suur-tanu-lugejatele-kes-andsid-portaali-tegevuse-jatkamiseks-oma-panuse/
"Paralleelselt Objektiivi sisulise ja tehnilise täiendamise ja täiustamisega tähendab töö portaali arengu nimel ka igal aastal vähemalt kahe suure annetustekampaania läbiviimist, millest järgmine leiab aset kevadel"
22. november 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/objektiivi-toimetus-tanab-toetajaid/
"2016. aasta sügiskampaania käigus koguti portaali lugejatelt ja toetajatelt annetustena 23 131 eurot."
"Objektiivi toimetus loeb sügiskampaania kordaläinuks, sest eesmärgiks seatud 20 000 euro kogumine õnnestus, ning tänab kõiki toetajaid, tänu kellele on võimalik edasi tegutseda ja tulevikku vaadata. Järgmine suurem annetuste kogumise kampaania on plaanitud kevadesse.
Portaal jätkab lugejate toetusel oma tegevust, et selle ühiskondlik mõju laieneks ja kasvuks. Praegu on üheks olulisemaks ülesandeks videostuudio väljaehitamine. Plaanide kohaselt alustab videostuudio algsel kujul tegevust hiljemalt tuleva aasta alguses."
16. november 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/objektiivi-tulevik-soltub-lugejate-toetusest/
"Pöördun teie poole palvega, et aitaksite viia Objektiivi annetuste kogumise kampaania eduka lõpuni.
Selleks, et jõuaksime eesmärgini, on hädasti tarvis, et kõik Objektiivi lugejad, kes ei ole veel praeguse kampaania käigus annetust teinud, annaksid nüüd oma panuse.
Seejuures on asjaga tõesti kiire, kuna kampaania lõpuni selle nädala lõpus on jäänud vaid mõned päevad.
Praeguseks on paljud Objektiivi toetajad annetanud kokku rohkem kui viisteist tuhat eurot, mis tähendab, et eesmärgiks seatud kahemümnest tuhandest eurost on puudu veel vähem kui viis tuhat eurot."
// mis see eesmärk siia puutub, millega see seotud on ?
15. november 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/portaali-objektiiv-peatoimetaja-uleskutse-lugejatele-ja-sopradele/
"Selleks, et avaldada iga päev uudiseid, arvamuslugusid ja videomaterjale, vajab portaal Objektiiv jätkuvalt oma lugejate ja sõprade toetust. Kui Sul, hea lugeja, on võimalik meid jõukohaselt toetada, siis tee seda juba nüüd. Soovime sügiskampaania raames koguda 20 000 eurot, ning üle poole sellest summast on juba koos."
19. oktoober 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/portaalil-objektiiv-taitus-esimene-tegevusaasta/
"Esimese tegevusaasta jooksul on portaali külastatud 1,32 miljonit korda 451 777 kasutaja poolt."
"Paratamatult tähendab see vastuhakku kitsarinnalisele progressiusule, relativismi diktatuurile ja moraalsele dekadentsile, mis meie ühiskonnas ja kogu Lääne kultuuriruumis järjest ulatuslikumalt maad võtavad. Loodame pakkuda lugemiseks, kuulamiseks ja vaatamiseks ajakirjanduslikke materjale, mis neid arenguid mitte ainult ei ava ega paljasta, vaid näitavad samuti teed kõige selle juurde, mis on ajatult ilus, tõene ja hea. Ja mis seeläbi aitavad muutuda meil ja kogu ühiskonnal."
6 mai 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/taname-objektiivi-annetustekampaania-miinimumeesmark-saavutatud/
"tänase hommiku seisuga oleme jõudnud annetuste kampaania alguses eesmärgiks seatud 25 000 euro piirini ning isegi ületanud selle.
Kampaania kokkuvõtted teeme juba tuleva nädala alguses."
3. mai 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/vahekokkuvote-objektiivi-kampaania-avanadal-oli-vaga-edukas/
"Kampaania eesmärk 25 000 eurot on käeulatuses!"
"Objektiivi toetuskampaania esimese nädala vältel kogusime portaali tegevuse jätkamiseks ja laiendamiseks ühtekokku 14 216 eurot, millest ca 9 000 laekus meie vastavatud veebiannetuste keskkonna kaudu. See tähendab, et meie toetajad on näidanud Objektiivi suhtes üles suurt usaldust ning kampaania minimaalseks eesmärgiks seatud 25 000 euro kogumine on käeulatuses.
Täname kõiki, kes on Objektiivi juba toetanud!
Aga ühtlasi palume kõiki Objektiivi lugejaid, kes ei ole veel annetust teinud, anda oma väga oluline panus, et saaksime viia kampaania eduka lõpuni ja koguda annetustega vähemalt 25 000 eurot, nagu eesmärgiks seatud."
29. aprill 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/objektiiv-saab-tegutseda-uksnes-juhul-kui-meie-lugejad-peavad-seda-oluliseks/
"Minu rõõmuks vastasid inimesed üleskutsele väga palava toetusega, annetades portaali rajamiseks rohkem kui 25 000 eurot. Järgnevatel kuudel tegime tõsiselt tööd, mille tulemusena käivitasime Objektiivi möödunud aasta 18. oktoobril.
Sellest ajast saati ehk veidi enam kui kuue kuu jooksul on meie portaali külastanud rohkem kui 675 000-l korral enam kui veerand miljonit kasutajat. Sageli külastatakse portaali päevas rohkem kui 5000-l korral ja nii mõnigi kord hüppab päevane külastuste arv üle kümne tuhande"
"Nimelt nõustusid kaks meie sihtasutuse suuremat toetajat minu ettepanekuga anda Objektiivile ühtekokku 25 000 eurot, aga üksnes tingimusel, et suudame oma väiksematelt toetajatelt koguda annetustena vähemalt sama suure summa. See tähendab, et meil tuleb uuesti loota meie toetajate usaldusele.
Võimalus saada ühe kampaaniaga Objektiivile rohkem kui 50 000 eurot on tõesti erakordne ning see annab meile reaalse väljavaate teostada mitmed plaanid, millest oleme portaali rajamisest saati unistanud, ent mis nõuavad senisest suuremaid rahalisi võimalusi."
http://objektiiv.ee/portaal-objektiiv-avas-videostuudio/
"13. veebruaril, avas portaali Objektiiv toimetus videostuudio. Samal päeval peetud väikesel vastuvõtul meenutati sõpradele ja toetajatele meie väljaande missiooni ja tänati suuremaid annetajaid.
"Stuudios said sõna ka mitmed teised külalised, kellega salvestatud usutlusi võib näha juba lähipäevadel. "
// avatuse mottes võiks stuudio enda osas olla ka tehnilised infod jms kulud, kas iniemstel seadmeid lubati annetada?
23. november 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/suur-tanu-lugejatele-kes-andsid-portaali-tegevuse-jatkamiseks-oma-panuse/
"Paralleelselt Objektiivi sisulise ja tehnilise täiendamise ja täiustamisega tähendab töö portaali arengu nimel ka igal aastal vähemalt kahe suure annetustekampaania läbiviimist, millest järgmine leiab aset kevadel"
22. november 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/objektiivi-toimetus-tanab-toetajaid/
"2016. aasta sügiskampaania käigus koguti portaali lugejatelt ja toetajatelt annetustena 23 131 eurot."
"Objektiivi toimetus loeb sügiskampaania kordaläinuks, sest eesmärgiks seatud 20 000 euro kogumine õnnestus, ning tänab kõiki toetajaid, tänu kellele on võimalik edasi tegutseda ja tulevikku vaadata. Järgmine suurem annetuste kogumise kampaania on plaanitud kevadesse.
Portaal jätkab lugejate toetusel oma tegevust, et selle ühiskondlik mõju laieneks ja kasvuks. Praegu on üheks olulisemaks ülesandeks videostuudio väljaehitamine. Plaanide kohaselt alustab videostuudio algsel kujul tegevust hiljemalt tuleva aasta alguses."
16. november 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/objektiivi-tulevik-soltub-lugejate-toetusest/
"Pöördun teie poole palvega, et aitaksite viia Objektiivi annetuste kogumise kampaania eduka lõpuni.
Selleks, et jõuaksime eesmärgini, on hädasti tarvis, et kõik Objektiivi lugejad, kes ei ole veel praeguse kampaania käigus annetust teinud, annaksid nüüd oma panuse.
Seejuures on asjaga tõesti kiire, kuna kampaania lõpuni selle nädala lõpus on jäänud vaid mõned päevad.
Praeguseks on paljud Objektiivi toetajad annetanud kokku rohkem kui viisteist tuhat eurot, mis tähendab, et eesmärgiks seatud kahemümnest tuhandest eurost on puudu veel vähem kui viis tuhat eurot."
// mis see eesmärk siia puutub, millega see seotud on ?
15. november 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/portaali-objektiiv-peatoimetaja-uleskutse-lugejatele-ja-sopradele/
"Selleks, et avaldada iga päev uudiseid, arvamuslugusid ja videomaterjale, vajab portaal Objektiiv jätkuvalt oma lugejate ja sõprade toetust. Kui Sul, hea lugeja, on võimalik meid jõukohaselt toetada, siis tee seda juba nüüd. Soovime sügiskampaania raames koguda 20 000 eurot, ning üle poole sellest summast on juba koos."
19. oktoober 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/portaalil-objektiiv-taitus-esimene-tegevusaasta/
"Esimese tegevusaasta jooksul on portaali külastatud 1,32 miljonit korda 451 777 kasutaja poolt."
"Paratamatult tähendab see vastuhakku kitsarinnalisele progressiusule, relativismi diktatuurile ja moraalsele dekadentsile, mis meie ühiskonnas ja kogu Lääne kultuuriruumis järjest ulatuslikumalt maad võtavad. Loodame pakkuda lugemiseks, kuulamiseks ja vaatamiseks ajakirjanduslikke materjale, mis neid arenguid mitte ainult ei ava ega paljasta, vaid näitavad samuti teed kõige selle juurde, mis on ajatult ilus, tõene ja hea. Ja mis seeläbi aitavad muutuda meil ja kogu ühiskonnal."
6 mai 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/taname-objektiivi-annetustekampaania-miinimumeesmark-saavutatud/
"tänase hommiku seisuga oleme jõudnud annetuste kampaania alguses eesmärgiks seatud 25 000 euro piirini ning isegi ületanud selle.
Kampaania kokkuvõtted teeme juba tuleva nädala alguses."
3. mai 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/vahekokkuvote-objektiivi-kampaania-avanadal-oli-vaga-edukas/
"Kampaania eesmärk 25 000 eurot on käeulatuses!"
"Objektiivi toetuskampaania esimese nädala vältel kogusime portaali tegevuse jätkamiseks ja laiendamiseks ühtekokku 14 216 eurot, millest ca 9 000 laekus meie vastavatud veebiannetuste keskkonna kaudu. See tähendab, et meie toetajad on näidanud Objektiivi suhtes üles suurt usaldust ning kampaania minimaalseks eesmärgiks seatud 25 000 euro kogumine on käeulatuses.
Täname kõiki, kes on Objektiivi juba toetanud!
Aga ühtlasi palume kõiki Objektiivi lugejaid, kes ei ole veel annetust teinud, anda oma väga oluline panus, et saaksime viia kampaania eduka lõpuni ja koguda annetustega vähemalt 25 000 eurot, nagu eesmärgiks seatud."
29. aprill 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/objektiiv-saab-tegutseda-uksnes-juhul-kui-meie-lugejad-peavad-seda-oluliseks/
"Minu rõõmuks vastasid inimesed üleskutsele väga palava toetusega, annetades portaali rajamiseks rohkem kui 25 000 eurot. Järgnevatel kuudel tegime tõsiselt tööd, mille tulemusena käivitasime Objektiivi möödunud aasta 18. oktoobril.
Sellest ajast saati ehk veidi enam kui kuue kuu jooksul on meie portaali külastanud rohkem kui 675 000-l korral enam kui veerand miljonit kasutajat. Sageli külastatakse portaali päevas rohkem kui 5000-l korral ja nii mõnigi kord hüppab päevane külastuste arv üle kümne tuhande"
"Nimelt nõustusid kaks meie sihtasutuse suuremat toetajat minu ettepanekuga anda Objektiivile ühtekokku 25 000 eurot, aga üksnes tingimusel, et suudame oma väiksematelt toetajatelt koguda annetustena vähemalt sama suure summa. See tähendab, et meil tuleb uuesti loota meie toetajate usaldusele.
Võimalus saada ühe kampaaniaga Objektiivile rohkem kui 50 000 eurot on tõesti erakordne ning see annab meile reaalse väljavaate teostada mitmed plaanid, millest oleme portaali rajamisest saati unistanud, ent mis nõuavad senisest suuremaid rahalisi võimalusi."
http://objektiiv.ee/portaal-objektiiv-avas-videostuudio/
9 September 2017 05:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
4. aprill 2017
http://objektiiv.ee/objektiiv-alustab-aasta-koige-olulisemat-annetuste-kogumise-kampaaniat/
"Mäletatavasti asutasime me portaali Objektiiv just selle tõttu, et niinimetatud vana meedia või peavoolumeedia ei soovinud teatud ühiskondlikult olulistel teemadel kõigile osapooltele sõna anda või tegi seda väga kallutatult. Näeme seda tendentsi jätkumas ja isegi süvenemas. Seetõttu on alternatiivsed meediaväljaanded endiselt äärmiselt vajalikud, et tasakaalustada üldist meediapilti.
Viimasel ajal on meedia usaldusväärsusest üha rohkem kõnelema hakatud. Läänes tugevnevate ja süvenevate ideoloogiliste vastasseisude tõttu on paljud meediakanalid veelgi enam politiseerunud või ideoloogiliselt selge joone valinud. See käib ka Eesti meediaväljaannete kohta. Kannatada on saanud usaldus ajakirjanduse vastu."
"Objektiivi tegijad on algusest peale välja öelnud oma maailmavaatelise ja väärtuselise positsiooni. Oleme konservatiivne väljaanne, seisame Eesti traditsiooniliste, kristlike ja rahvuslike väärtuste eest ja mõtestame nii maailmas kui kodumaal toimuvat sellest lähtudes.
Veelgi enam, tahame ühiskonnas kõlama panna need tõed ja aated, mida pealetungiv vasakliberaalne revolutsiooniline protsess on tõsiselt kahjustanud või sootuks hävitanud. Samuti tahame oma lugejatele pakkuda nii informatsiooni kui arvamusi vaatenurgast, mis erineb peavoolumeedia vasakpoolsest ja/või liberaalsest käsitlusest.
Me saame seda teha vaid kõigi meie ühisel jõul. Kutsun Sind, hea lugeja, andma annetusega oma jõukohane panus, et portaal Objektiiv võiks edasi tegutseda ning järkjärgult üha paremaks ja tugevamaks meediaväljaandeks muutuda. Võin toimetuse nimel kinnitada, et me viime pühendunult ja otsusekindlalt ellu selle, mida oleme lubanud, ja hindame lugejate panust äärmiselt kõrgelt.
Vaata kindlasti ka juuresolevat videot, mis kõneleb veidi lähemalt tänavusest kampaaniast. Nagu seal toonitatud, on meil selle kampaania raames suurepärane võimalus koguda lõviosa portaali aastaeelarvest, sest kahe suurtoetaja lubaduste tõttu on iga annetus sisuliselt kahekordse väärtusega."
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:D
"Eesti Rahvusringhäälingu veebiuudiste juht Anvar Samost tõdeb, et kriitikameelt “tuleb nüüd laiendada tegelikult oma kolleegidele, neile kolleegidele väljaannetest, mida on peetud maailmas standardiks, nagu seesama Reuters, CNN või Ameerika suured ajalehed New York Times, Washington Post. Nii see paraku on.”
17. veebruar 2017
http://objektiiv.ee/martin-helme-ja-henn-polluaas-aitame-omalt-poolt-kaasa-et-objektiivi-stuudio-leiaks-vaarilist-kasutust/
"Videostuudio on olnud käesoleval hooajal Objektiivi laienemise üheks oluliseks teetähiseks, ent sellele on eelnenud mitmed teised positiivsed arengud: toimetuse koosseis on laienenud välisuudiste- ja videotoimetaja võrra, lisandunud on ka mitmeid kolumniste."
// Kus on nimed?? Kirjldused miks jne
15. veebruar 2017
http://objektiiv.ee/portaal-objektiiv-avas-videostuudio/
"13. veebruaril, avas portaali Objektiiv toimetus videostuudio. Samal päeval peetud väikesel vastuvõtul meenutati sõpradele ja toetajatele meie väljaande missiooni ja tänati suuremaid annetajaid.
"Stuudios said sõna ka mitmed teised külalised, kellega salvestatud usutlusi võib näha juba lähipäevadel. "
// avatuse mottes võiks stuudio enda osas olla ka tehnilised infod jms kulud, kas iniemstel seadmeid lubati annetada?
http://objektiiv.ee/objektiiv-alustab-aasta-koige-olulisemat-annetuste-kogumise-kampaaniat/
"Mäletatavasti asutasime me portaali Objektiiv just selle tõttu, et niinimetatud vana meedia või peavoolumeedia ei soovinud teatud ühiskondlikult olulistel teemadel kõigile osapooltele sõna anda või tegi seda väga kallutatult. Näeme seda tendentsi jätkumas ja isegi süvenemas. Seetõttu on alternatiivsed meediaväljaanded endiselt äärmiselt vajalikud, et tasakaalustada üldist meediapilti.
Viimasel ajal on meedia usaldusväärsusest üha rohkem kõnelema hakatud. Läänes tugevnevate ja süvenevate ideoloogiliste vastasseisude tõttu on paljud meediakanalid veelgi enam politiseerunud või ideoloogiliselt selge joone valinud. See käib ka Eesti meediaväljaannete kohta. Kannatada on saanud usaldus ajakirjanduse vastu."
"Objektiivi tegijad on algusest peale välja öelnud oma maailmavaatelise ja väärtuselise positsiooni. Oleme konservatiivne väljaanne, seisame Eesti traditsiooniliste, kristlike ja rahvuslike väärtuste eest ja mõtestame nii maailmas kui kodumaal toimuvat sellest lähtudes.
Veelgi enam, tahame ühiskonnas kõlama panna need tõed ja aated, mida pealetungiv vasakliberaalne revolutsiooniline protsess on tõsiselt kahjustanud või sootuks hävitanud. Samuti tahame oma lugejatele pakkuda nii informatsiooni kui arvamusi vaatenurgast, mis erineb peavoolumeedia vasakpoolsest ja/või liberaalsest käsitlusest.
Me saame seda teha vaid kõigi meie ühisel jõul. Kutsun Sind, hea lugeja, andma annetusega oma jõukohane panus, et portaal Objektiiv võiks edasi tegutseda ning järkjärgult üha paremaks ja tugevamaks meediaväljaandeks muutuda. Võin toimetuse nimel kinnitada, et me viime pühendunult ja otsusekindlalt ellu selle, mida oleme lubanud, ja hindame lugejate panust äärmiselt kõrgelt.
Vaata kindlasti ka juuresolevat videot, mis kõneleb veidi lähemalt tänavusest kampaaniast. Nagu seal toonitatud, on meil selle kampaania raames suurepärane võimalus koguda lõviosa portaali aastaeelarvest, sest kahe suurtoetaja lubaduste tõttu on iga annetus sisuliselt kahekordse väärtusega."
---
:D
"Eesti Rahvusringhäälingu veebiuudiste juht Anvar Samost tõdeb, et kriitikameelt “tuleb nüüd laiendada tegelikult oma kolleegidele, neile kolleegidele väljaannetest, mida on peetud maailmas standardiks, nagu seesama Reuters, CNN või Ameerika suured ajalehed New York Times, Washington Post. Nii see paraku on.”
17. veebruar 2017
http://objektiiv.ee/martin-helme-ja-henn-polluaas-aitame-omalt-poolt-kaasa-et-objektiivi-stuudio-leiaks-vaarilist-kasutust/
"Videostuudio on olnud käesoleval hooajal Objektiivi laienemise üheks oluliseks teetähiseks, ent sellele on eelnenud mitmed teised positiivsed arengud: toimetuse koosseis on laienenud välisuudiste- ja videotoimetaja võrra, lisandunud on ka mitmeid kolumniste."
// Kus on nimed?? Kirjldused miks jne
15. veebruar 2017
http://objektiiv.ee/portaal-objektiiv-avas-videostuudio/
"13. veebruaril, avas portaali Objektiiv toimetus videostuudio. Samal päeval peetud väikesel vastuvõtul meenutati sõpradele ja toetajatele meie väljaande missiooni ja tänati suuremaid annetajaid.
"Stuudios said sõna ka mitmed teised külalised, kellega salvestatud usutlusi võib näha juba lähipäevadel. "
// avatuse mottes võiks stuudio enda osas olla ka tehnilised infod jms kulud, kas iniemstel seadmeid lubati annetada?
http://objektiiv.ee/objektiiv-alustab-aasta-koige-olulisemat-annetuste-kogumise-kampaaniat/
9 September 2017 05:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey, pidevalt käib selline jutt, kuid kokku võtta ja mainida kes need suur annetajad on ja muud statistikat, selgitust mida tehakse jne..:
Kokku siis need artiklid räägivad toetusest:
4. mai 2017
http://objektiiv.ee/taname-objektiiv-laheb-ligi-2000-annetaja-toetusele-oma-tooga-edasi/
"Kampaania käigus saavutasime eesmärgiks seatud 40 000 euro piiri ja ületasime selle. Kokku annetasid peaaegu 2000 toetajat kampaania käigus ligi 45 000 eurot.
Nagu me juba kampaania alguses selgitasime, panevad kaks suurtoetajat nüüd meile omalt poolt õla alla ja annetavad lisaks väiksematest annetustest kogunenud summale Objektiivi tegevuse jätkamiseks lisaks veel 40 000 eurot."
http://objektiiv.ee/portaal-objektiiv-tanab-lugejaid-usalduse-ja-toetuse-eest/
"Umbes 2000 inimest annetas portaali tegevuse jätkamiseks ligi 45 000 eurot, millele lisandub suurannetajate poolt 40 000 eurot. Seega oleme teie abiga kogunud suurema osa portaali tänavuseks tegevuseks vajalikust rahast."
27. aprill 2017
http://objektiiv.ee/objektiivi-kampaania-joudis-eesmargini/
"Eilse õhtu seisuga on Objektiivile laekunud annetustena 40 499 eurot, mis tähendab, et oleme jõudnud viis päeva enne kampaania lõppu eesmärgiks seatud 40 tuhande euro piirini ja ületanud selle.
Kampaania alguses eesmärgiks seatud piirini jõudmine tähendab, et Objektiiv saab lisaks muudele annetustele 40 tuhat eurot kahelt suurtoetajalt"
"Portaal Objektiiv tegutseb tõelise kodanikuliikumise korras, tuginedes üksnes eraisikute annetustele ning olles seega avalikust võimust täiesti sõltumatu. Plaanide kohaselt toimub Objektiivi tegevuseks annetuste kogumine kampaania korras kaks korda aastas, kevadel ja sügisel.
Annetusi saab teha ka kampaania välisel ajal ning eriti tänuväärsed on igakuised püsiannetused."
"Täpsemad kokkuvõtted kampaania tulemustest avaldame Objektiivis pärast kampaania lõppu tuleva nädala keskel."
// otsin veel neid täpsemaid infosi...
http://objektiiv.ee/roland-to%cc%83nisson-kui-tahate-teada-kuidas-asjad-maailmas-siis-toetage-objektiivi/
10. aprill 2017
http://objektiiv.ee/varro-vooglaid-objektiivi-tulevik-paljuski-lugejate-kates/
"Kuivõrd Objektiiv on puhtalt kodanikualgatuslik ja kodanike ühisel panusel rajanev ettevõtmine, sõltub meie portaali tulevik paljuski toetajate annetustest, selgitab Varro Vooglaid ja kutsub inimesi, kes peavad Objektiivi oluliseks ja vajalikuks, portaalile annetusega omalt poolt õlga alla panema."
"Kuivõrd Objektiiv on puhtalt kodanikualgatusel ja kodanike ühisel panusel rajanev meediaväljaanne ning sellisena Eesti ühiskonnas täiesti ainulaadne nähtus, siis sõltub meie tegevus täielikult toetajate panusest. Ühelt poolt tagab igasuguse riikliku rahastuse ja ka reklaamiostjate surve puudumine meile sõltumatuse – me võime rääkida ja kirjutada asjadest siirast tõetaotlusest lähtudes nii, nagu need meie parima arusaamise kohaselt on, mitte nii, nagu keegi ette kirjutab või nõnda, et saada reklaamimüümiseks võimalikult palju klikke."
"Mäletatavasti läks eelmisel kevadel läbi viidud Objektiivi esimene suur kampaania isegi üle ootuste hästi. Palusime väiksematel toetajatel annetada Objektiivile kokku vähemalt 25 tuhat eurot, et saada sellisel juhul täiendavalt sama suur annetus kahelt suurtoetajalt. Tegelikult annetasid väiketoetajad kokku koguni rohkem kui 45 000 eurot."
" laiendame oma portaali toimetuse koosseisu, kaasates selle töösse välisuudiste toimetaja, ning rajame ka oma videostuudio. Mõlemad lubadused viisime aasta jooksul täide. Augustikuus liitus meie meeskonnaga varem Postimehe juures töötanud Urho Meister, kes teeb välisuudiste toimetajana väga professionaalset tööd"
"Ainuüksi 2017. aastal on meie portaali külastanud rohkem kui kakssada kakskümmend tuhat kasutajat enam kui kuuesajal tuhandel korral."
" Tõsiasi on see, et kui kasvõi kümme protsenti Objektiivi lugejatest toetaks portaali tegevust annetusega, siis oleks meie käsutuses praegusega võrreldes kordades suuremad rahalised võimalused, mis omakorda tähendaks, et portaali tegevus ja mõju kasvaks mitmekordseks.
Seepärast palungi Teid, et Te ei jätaks asja ootele, vaid teeksite Objektiivile juba täna võimalikult helde annetuse."
"Seejuures rõhutan, et nagu eelmisel aastal, nii on ka sel korral Objektiivi kevadkampaania raames iga annetus sisuliselt kahekordse väärtusega. Kui saame annetustena kokku eesmärgiks seatud 40 000 eurot, siis annetavad kaks suurtoetajat omalt poolt teist sama palju juurde. Seega on meil reaalne väljavaade koguda annetustekampaaniaga kokku rohkem kui 80 000 eurot, mis võimaldaks meil kindlasti portaali tegevust laiendada, kaasates toimetuse töösse hädavajalikke uusi liikmeid. Et selle eesmärgini jõuda, on aga kindlasti tarvis ka Teie abi. Seega, palun ärge lükake asja edasi, vaid andke oma annetusega panus kohe täna – selleks, et Objektiivi edulugu jätkuks!"
// okey, Üks nimigi.
6. aprill 2017
http://objektiiv.ee/markus-jarvi-objektiiv-relv-vaimses-vabadusvoitluses/
"Oleme portaali Objektiiv ellu kutsunud selleks, et meie kallil Maarjamaal pidada vaimset vabadusvõitlust tsivilisatsiooni keskseid väärtusi lagastavate ja elementaarseid tõdesid kirsadega maha tallavate revolutsiooniliste jõudude vastu, tõdeb Markus Järvi ja selgitab, miks on meie portaali annetuskampaanias osalemine nii oluline. "
"Ent kunagi varem pole ka alternatiivsele ja vasturevolutsioonilisele meediale määratud olulisemat rolli kui nüüd: selleks on sihikindel võitlus vaimu tömbistava massimeedia vastu esiteks lagundades seal levinud valesid ja teiseks pakkudes selle asemele ülesehitavat materjali."
". Kuigi viimasel ajal on Objektiivi külastatud alatiselt üle 100 000 inimese kuus, on annetajaid nende seas siiski vaid väike osa.
Nüüd on aga taas suurepärane võimalus anda kõigil meie lugejail Objektiivi tööle jõuline arengusüst! Nimelt on mõned suurtoetajad lubanud Objektiivile suisa 40 000 eurot, kuid nagu eelmiselgi aastal, vaid eeldusel, et saame sama raha kokku ka oma toetajatelt"
"Meie siin Objektiivi toimetuses oleme valmis oma näo ja nimega võitlema tõe, hüve ja ilu nimel ning meie kalli Eestimaa säilimise nimel, kui teie meid toetate.
Seega, head lugejad, ärge viivitage, vaid tehke oma võimalikult helde annetus"
Kokku siis need artiklid räägivad toetusest:
4. mai 2017
http://objektiiv.ee/taname-objektiiv-laheb-ligi-2000-annetaja-toetusele-oma-tooga-edasi/
"Kampaania käigus saavutasime eesmärgiks seatud 40 000 euro piiri ja ületasime selle. Kokku annetasid peaaegu 2000 toetajat kampaania käigus ligi 45 000 eurot.
Nagu me juba kampaania alguses selgitasime, panevad kaks suurtoetajat nüüd meile omalt poolt õla alla ja annetavad lisaks väiksematest annetustest kogunenud summale Objektiivi tegevuse jätkamiseks lisaks veel 40 000 eurot."
http://objektiiv.ee/portaal-objektiiv-tanab-lugejaid-usalduse-ja-toetuse-eest/
"Umbes 2000 inimest annetas portaali tegevuse jätkamiseks ligi 45 000 eurot, millele lisandub suurannetajate poolt 40 000 eurot. Seega oleme teie abiga kogunud suurema osa portaali tänavuseks tegevuseks vajalikust rahast."
27. aprill 2017
http://objektiiv.ee/objektiivi-kampaania-joudis-eesmargini/
"Eilse õhtu seisuga on Objektiivile laekunud annetustena 40 499 eurot, mis tähendab, et oleme jõudnud viis päeva enne kampaania lõppu eesmärgiks seatud 40 tuhande euro piirini ja ületanud selle.
Kampaania alguses eesmärgiks seatud piirini jõudmine tähendab, et Objektiiv saab lisaks muudele annetustele 40 tuhat eurot kahelt suurtoetajalt"
"Portaal Objektiiv tegutseb tõelise kodanikuliikumise korras, tuginedes üksnes eraisikute annetustele ning olles seega avalikust võimust täiesti sõltumatu. Plaanide kohaselt toimub Objektiivi tegevuseks annetuste kogumine kampaania korras kaks korda aastas, kevadel ja sügisel.
Annetusi saab teha ka kampaania välisel ajal ning eriti tänuväärsed on igakuised püsiannetused."
"Täpsemad kokkuvõtted kampaania tulemustest avaldame Objektiivis pärast kampaania lõppu tuleva nädala keskel."
// otsin veel neid täpsemaid infosi...
http://objektiiv.ee/roland-to%cc%83nisson-kui-tahate-teada-kuidas-asjad-maailmas-siis-toetage-objektiivi/
10. aprill 2017
http://objektiiv.ee/varro-vooglaid-objektiivi-tulevik-paljuski-lugejate-kates/
"Kuivõrd Objektiiv on puhtalt kodanikualgatuslik ja kodanike ühisel panusel rajanev ettevõtmine, sõltub meie portaali tulevik paljuski toetajate annetustest, selgitab Varro Vooglaid ja kutsub inimesi, kes peavad Objektiivi oluliseks ja vajalikuks, portaalile annetusega omalt poolt õlga alla panema."
"Kuivõrd Objektiiv on puhtalt kodanikualgatusel ja kodanike ühisel panusel rajanev meediaväljaanne ning sellisena Eesti ühiskonnas täiesti ainulaadne nähtus, siis sõltub meie tegevus täielikult toetajate panusest. Ühelt poolt tagab igasuguse riikliku rahastuse ja ka reklaamiostjate surve puudumine meile sõltumatuse – me võime rääkida ja kirjutada asjadest siirast tõetaotlusest lähtudes nii, nagu need meie parima arusaamise kohaselt on, mitte nii, nagu keegi ette kirjutab või nõnda, et saada reklaamimüümiseks võimalikult palju klikke."
"Mäletatavasti läks eelmisel kevadel läbi viidud Objektiivi esimene suur kampaania isegi üle ootuste hästi. Palusime väiksematel toetajatel annetada Objektiivile kokku vähemalt 25 tuhat eurot, et saada sellisel juhul täiendavalt sama suur annetus kahelt suurtoetajalt. Tegelikult annetasid väiketoetajad kokku koguni rohkem kui 45 000 eurot."
" laiendame oma portaali toimetuse koosseisu, kaasates selle töösse välisuudiste toimetaja, ning rajame ka oma videostuudio. Mõlemad lubadused viisime aasta jooksul täide. Augustikuus liitus meie meeskonnaga varem Postimehe juures töötanud Urho Meister, kes teeb välisuudiste toimetajana väga professionaalset tööd"
"Ainuüksi 2017. aastal on meie portaali külastanud rohkem kui kakssada kakskümmend tuhat kasutajat enam kui kuuesajal tuhandel korral."
" Tõsiasi on see, et kui kasvõi kümme protsenti Objektiivi lugejatest toetaks portaali tegevust annetusega, siis oleks meie käsutuses praegusega võrreldes kordades suuremad rahalised võimalused, mis omakorda tähendaks, et portaali tegevus ja mõju kasvaks mitmekordseks.
Seepärast palungi Teid, et Te ei jätaks asja ootele, vaid teeksite Objektiivile juba täna võimalikult helde annetuse."
"Seejuures rõhutan, et nagu eelmisel aastal, nii on ka sel korral Objektiivi kevadkampaania raames iga annetus sisuliselt kahekordse väärtusega. Kui saame annetustena kokku eesmärgiks seatud 40 000 eurot, siis annetavad kaks suurtoetajat omalt poolt teist sama palju juurde. Seega on meil reaalne väljavaade koguda annetustekampaaniaga kokku rohkem kui 80 000 eurot, mis võimaldaks meil kindlasti portaali tegevust laiendada, kaasates toimetuse töösse hädavajalikke uusi liikmeid. Et selle eesmärgini jõuda, on aga kindlasti tarvis ka Teie abi. Seega, palun ärge lükake asja edasi, vaid andke oma annetusega panus kohe täna – selleks, et Objektiivi edulugu jätkuks!"
// okey, Üks nimigi.
6. aprill 2017
http://objektiiv.ee/markus-jarvi-objektiiv-relv-vaimses-vabadusvoitluses/
"Oleme portaali Objektiiv ellu kutsunud selleks, et meie kallil Maarjamaal pidada vaimset vabadusvõitlust tsivilisatsiooni keskseid väärtusi lagastavate ja elementaarseid tõdesid kirsadega maha tallavate revolutsiooniliste jõudude vastu, tõdeb Markus Järvi ja selgitab, miks on meie portaali annetuskampaanias osalemine nii oluline. "
"Ent kunagi varem pole ka alternatiivsele ja vasturevolutsioonilisele meediale määratud olulisemat rolli kui nüüd: selleks on sihikindel võitlus vaimu tömbistava massimeedia vastu esiteks lagundades seal levinud valesid ja teiseks pakkudes selle asemele ülesehitavat materjali."
". Kuigi viimasel ajal on Objektiivi külastatud alatiselt üle 100 000 inimese kuus, on annetajaid nende seas siiski vaid väike osa.
Nüüd on aga taas suurepärane võimalus anda kõigil meie lugejail Objektiivi tööle jõuline arengusüst! Nimelt on mõned suurtoetajad lubanud Objektiivile suisa 40 000 eurot, kuid nagu eelmiselgi aastal, vaid eeldusel, et saame sama raha kokku ka oma toetajatelt"
"Meie siin Objektiivi toimetuses oleme valmis oma näo ja nimega võitlema tõe, hüve ja ilu nimel ning meie kalli Eestimaa säilimise nimel, kui teie meid toetate.
Seega, head lugejad, ärge viivitage, vaid tehke oma võimalikult helde annetus"
http://objektiiv.ee/taname-objektiiv-laheb-ligi-2000-annetaja-toetusele-oma-tooga-edasi/
9 September 2017 05:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kus on konkreetsed ülevaated asjadest?
9 September 2017 04:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kokku siis need artiklid räägivad toetusest:
märts 2016
Kokkuvõte SAPTK tegevusest 2015. aastal
http://objektiiv.ee/kokkuvote-saptk-tegevusest-2015-aastal/
"2015. aastal toetus meie sihtasutuse rahastamine üksnes kohalikele annetajatele ning ülekaalukas enamus meie sihtasutuse tuludest moodustub tuhandete väikeannetajate panusest. Kui 2013. aastal toetas meie tegevuse ülesehitamist meie sõprade juhtimisel Poolas tegutsev Piotr Skarga Instituut, siis 2014. ja 2015. aastal ei ole me enam välismaiseid annetusi saanud ja sõltume üksnes eesti eraisikutest annetajate toetusest. "
"Septembris käivitasime püsiannetajate programmi, et panna sihtasutuse tööle stabiilsem rahaline alus. Programmiga liitumise ettepanek sai hea vastuvõtu osaliseks ning tänaseks on sellega ühinenud juba üle 500 inimese. "
"Seepärast loodame, et meie püsitoetajate programmiga liitub veel palju inimesi ning et lähiaastatel jõuame esmalt 750 ja seejärel ka 1000 püsitoetaja olemasoluni.
Uudiste- ja arvamusportaali OBJEKTIIV.ee käivitamine
Oktoobrikuus avasime oma uudiste- ja arvamusportaali OBJEKTIIV.ee, mille ettevalmistamise nimel töötasime ligi aasta."
"Kuigi me ei ole siiani teinud suuri pingutusi portaali lugejanumbrite kasvatamiseks, vaid oleme pigem suunanud oma energia portaali jätkuvaks täiustamiseks ja selle töökorralduse ülesehitamiseks, on Objektiivi külastatud tänaseks rohkem kui 550 000 korral ligi 220 000 kasutaja poolt, mis tähendab, et keskmiselt on olnud iga päev portaalil rohkem kui kolm ja pool tuhat külastust."
"Ka meie toetajad on pidanud just portaali OBJEKTIIV.ee käivitamist üheks kõige olulisemaks sammuks meie töös, mille kinnituseks olid tuhandete inimeste annetused."
// NUmbrid mida meelde jätta / ja suhet
ja veel siis oma edust.. moldes.. kas see edu tegelikult on olnud ikka..
"Kokkuvõttes oli 2015. aasta meie sihtasutusele kahtlemata edukas. Reformierakonna ja sotside teerull on saanud tõsise tagasilöögi, kooseluseaduse läbisurumise lõpuleviimise püüdlused on osutunud ülimalt raskeks ega ole siiani eesmärgini jõudnud ning rahva tahtest mittehoolivate parteide ja poliitikute tegelik pale on suurele osale ühiskonnast tunduvalt selgemaks saanud.
Samuti oleme suutnud käivitada oma enda uudiste- ja arvamusportaali ning astunud seeläbi vastu vasakliberaalse dominandiga meediamanipulatsioonidele, millega püütakse avalikku arvamust painutada ja ideoloogiliselt moonutada. Seejuures ei ole osutunud edukaks püüdlused meie sihtasutuse häält maha suruda ning meid vaikima hirmutada."
Sisu:
"Aasta alguses pingutasime, et viia läbi laialdane teavituskampaania (kampaania lehekülg riigikoguvalimised2015.ee ei ole enam aktiivne), tuletades inimestele meelde, kes Riigikokku kandideerijate seast surusid rahva tahte vastaselt läbi kooseluseaduse ja millised kandidaadid austavad perekonda ja meie kultuurilist järjepidevust."
// Kus on lehe koopiad, arhiivid, raiskus töö v.. kustutate töö ära ja nimed??
// Kus on praktilisus, kui raske sinna linkida lehe arhiiv oleks olnud.. kerge..
ja jätkavad:
"Seda mõju märkasid loomulikult ka poliitikud ning püüdsid võimuparteide käepikendusena toimiva Erakondade Rahastamise Järelevalve Komisjoni (ERJK) kaudu meile kätte maksta, väites alusetult, nagu kujutanuks meie teavituskampaania endast keelatud annetust parteidele ja kandidaatidele.
Siiski ei kandnud järjekordne püüdlus meie sihtasutuse häält maha suruda ja meile tõsiseid ebameeldivusi valmistada vilja. Politsei lükkas ERJK kaebuse kahel korral tagasi, osutades, et meie ettevõtmiste näol oli tegemist mitte ühe või teise kandidaadi valimiskampaaniaga, vaid erinevate kandidaatide seisukohtadest teavitamise kampaaniaga üksikküsimuses, kusjuures välja olid toodud selle küsimuse suhtes erinevaid pooli esindavad kandidaadid. Just informeeritud ja vastutustundlikud valikud on need, millele saab ehituda tõeline demokraatia, ent samas on arusaadav, miks inimeste informeeritus valmistab valitsusparteidele tuska, raskendades rahvaga manipuleerimist.
Igal juhul ei ole meie püüdlus mõjutada valimiste tulemusi ühekordne ja me ei kavatse tagasi tõmbuda. Vastupidi, järgmisi valimisi püüame mõjutada veel palju ulatuslikumalt, et parlamendis oleks esindatud võimalikult vähe erakondi ja poliitikuid, kes ei hooli meie kultuuri alusväärtustest ja rahva enamuse tahtest"
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"Selline olukord tagab meile reaalse vabaduse ja sõltumatuse seista selle eest, mida peame õigeks ja heaks, ega aseta meid olukorda, kus oleksime sunnitud langetama oma otsuseid lähtudes avaliku võimu esindajate suunistest, nagu mitmed teised nn kodanikeühendused seda teevad.
Igal juhul võimaldab SAPTK-i toetajate pühendunud panustamine meie ettevõtmistesse kasutada meie käsutusse antud rahalisi vahendeid selleks, et 2016. aastal tegevust laiendada ja teha meie põhikirjaliste eesmärkide poole püüdlemiseks ära senisest veel oluliselt rohkem.
Ennekõike pühendume 2016. aastal rahvaalgatuse õiguse taastamise püüdlustele ning meie oma meediasüsteemi ehitamisele. Samuti püüame panna varasemast rohkem rõhku loengute, seminaride ja konverentside korraldamisele ning hariduslike materjalide loomisele.
2016. aasta algus on olnud juba väga huvitav, pidades silmas meie samme otsedemokraatia võimaluste taastamise suunas. Neist sammudest ning seonduvatest plaanidest räägibki suurem osa käesolevast uudiskirjast."
Muuseas veel lisaks:
märts 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/teabeamet-hoiatab-rahvusluse-ja-sallimatuse-eest/
"Välisluurega tegeleva Teabeameti aastaraamatus hoiatatakse rahvusluse, sallimatuse ja Euroopa Liidu suhtes vaenulike liikumiste ja erakondade eest: rahvusluse ja sallimatuse kasv võib nimelt põhjustada korrarikkumisi ja rahvarahutusi, tekkinud pingeid kasutab omakorda ära Venemaa"
// avatud lõpuga vähe Teabetööd toetava sisuga tundub või mis ?
november 2015
http://objektiiv.ee/alustas-uus-konservatiivne-poliitikateemaline-raadiosaade/
"Tre Raadios alustas möödunud nädalavahetusel uus poliitikateemaline jutusaade “Räägime asjast”, mis seab eesmärgiks rääkida Eesti asjadest nii, nagu nad on, mitte aga läbi Brüsseli-meelse ja vasakliberaalse propagandaprisma. Saatejuhtideks on Mart ja Martin Helme"
märts 2016
Kokkuvõte SAPTK tegevusest 2015. aastal
http://objektiiv.ee/kokkuvote-saptk-tegevusest-2015-aastal/
"2015. aastal toetus meie sihtasutuse rahastamine üksnes kohalikele annetajatele ning ülekaalukas enamus meie sihtasutuse tuludest moodustub tuhandete väikeannetajate panusest. Kui 2013. aastal toetas meie tegevuse ülesehitamist meie sõprade juhtimisel Poolas tegutsev Piotr Skarga Instituut, siis 2014. ja 2015. aastal ei ole me enam välismaiseid annetusi saanud ja sõltume üksnes eesti eraisikutest annetajate toetusest. "
"Septembris käivitasime püsiannetajate programmi, et panna sihtasutuse tööle stabiilsem rahaline alus. Programmiga liitumise ettepanek sai hea vastuvõtu osaliseks ning tänaseks on sellega ühinenud juba üle 500 inimese. "
"Seepärast loodame, et meie püsitoetajate programmiga liitub veel palju inimesi ning et lähiaastatel jõuame esmalt 750 ja seejärel ka 1000 püsitoetaja olemasoluni.
Uudiste- ja arvamusportaali OBJEKTIIV.ee käivitamine
Oktoobrikuus avasime oma uudiste- ja arvamusportaali OBJEKTIIV.ee, mille ettevalmistamise nimel töötasime ligi aasta."
"Kuigi me ei ole siiani teinud suuri pingutusi portaali lugejanumbrite kasvatamiseks, vaid oleme pigem suunanud oma energia portaali jätkuvaks täiustamiseks ja selle töökorralduse ülesehitamiseks, on Objektiivi külastatud tänaseks rohkem kui 550 000 korral ligi 220 000 kasutaja poolt, mis tähendab, et keskmiselt on olnud iga päev portaalil rohkem kui kolm ja pool tuhat külastust."
"Ka meie toetajad on pidanud just portaali OBJEKTIIV.ee käivitamist üheks kõige olulisemaks sammuks meie töös, mille kinnituseks olid tuhandete inimeste annetused."
// NUmbrid mida meelde jätta / ja suhet
ja veel siis oma edust.. moldes.. kas see edu tegelikult on olnud ikka..
"Kokkuvõttes oli 2015. aasta meie sihtasutusele kahtlemata edukas. Reformierakonna ja sotside teerull on saanud tõsise tagasilöögi, kooseluseaduse läbisurumise lõpuleviimise püüdlused on osutunud ülimalt raskeks ega ole siiani eesmärgini jõudnud ning rahva tahtest mittehoolivate parteide ja poliitikute tegelik pale on suurele osale ühiskonnast tunduvalt selgemaks saanud.
Samuti oleme suutnud käivitada oma enda uudiste- ja arvamusportaali ning astunud seeläbi vastu vasakliberaalse dominandiga meediamanipulatsioonidele, millega püütakse avalikku arvamust painutada ja ideoloogiliselt moonutada. Seejuures ei ole osutunud edukaks püüdlused meie sihtasutuse häält maha suruda ning meid vaikima hirmutada."
Sisu:
"Aasta alguses pingutasime, et viia läbi laialdane teavituskampaania (kampaania lehekülg riigikoguvalimised2015.ee ei ole enam aktiivne), tuletades inimestele meelde, kes Riigikokku kandideerijate seast surusid rahva tahte vastaselt läbi kooseluseaduse ja millised kandidaadid austavad perekonda ja meie kultuurilist järjepidevust."
// Kus on lehe koopiad, arhiivid, raiskus töö v.. kustutate töö ära ja nimed??
// Kus on praktilisus, kui raske sinna linkida lehe arhiiv oleks olnud.. kerge..
ja jätkavad:
"Seda mõju märkasid loomulikult ka poliitikud ning püüdsid võimuparteide käepikendusena toimiva Erakondade Rahastamise Järelevalve Komisjoni (ERJK) kaudu meile kätte maksta, väites alusetult, nagu kujutanuks meie teavituskampaania endast keelatud annetust parteidele ja kandidaatidele.
Siiski ei kandnud järjekordne püüdlus meie sihtasutuse häält maha suruda ja meile tõsiseid ebameeldivusi valmistada vilja. Politsei lükkas ERJK kaebuse kahel korral tagasi, osutades, et meie ettevõtmiste näol oli tegemist mitte ühe või teise kandidaadi valimiskampaaniaga, vaid erinevate kandidaatide seisukohtadest teavitamise kampaaniaga üksikküsimuses, kusjuures välja olid toodud selle küsimuse suhtes erinevaid pooli esindavad kandidaadid. Just informeeritud ja vastutustundlikud valikud on need, millele saab ehituda tõeline demokraatia, ent samas on arusaadav, miks inimeste informeeritus valmistab valitsusparteidele tuska, raskendades rahvaga manipuleerimist.
Igal juhul ei ole meie püüdlus mõjutada valimiste tulemusi ühekordne ja me ei kavatse tagasi tõmbuda. Vastupidi, järgmisi valimisi püüame mõjutada veel palju ulatuslikumalt, et parlamendis oleks esindatud võimalikult vähe erakondi ja poliitikuid, kes ei hooli meie kultuuri alusväärtustest ja rahva enamuse tahtest"
-
"Selline olukord tagab meile reaalse vabaduse ja sõltumatuse seista selle eest, mida peame õigeks ja heaks, ega aseta meid olukorda, kus oleksime sunnitud langetama oma otsuseid lähtudes avaliku võimu esindajate suunistest, nagu mitmed teised nn kodanikeühendused seda teevad.
Igal juhul võimaldab SAPTK-i toetajate pühendunud panustamine meie ettevõtmistesse kasutada meie käsutusse antud rahalisi vahendeid selleks, et 2016. aastal tegevust laiendada ja teha meie põhikirjaliste eesmärkide poole püüdlemiseks ära senisest veel oluliselt rohkem.
Ennekõike pühendume 2016. aastal rahvaalgatuse õiguse taastamise püüdlustele ning meie oma meediasüsteemi ehitamisele. Samuti püüame panna varasemast rohkem rõhku loengute, seminaride ja konverentside korraldamisele ning hariduslike materjalide loomisele.
2016. aasta algus on olnud juba väga huvitav, pidades silmas meie samme otsedemokraatia võimaluste taastamise suunas. Neist sammudest ning seonduvatest plaanidest räägibki suurem osa käesolevast uudiskirjast."
Muuseas veel lisaks:
märts 2016
http://objektiiv.ee/teabeamet-hoiatab-rahvusluse-ja-sallimatuse-eest/
"Välisluurega tegeleva Teabeameti aastaraamatus hoiatatakse rahvusluse, sallimatuse ja Euroopa Liidu suhtes vaenulike liikumiste ja erakondade eest: rahvusluse ja sallimatuse kasv võib nimelt põhjustada korrarikkumisi ja rahvarahutusi, tekkinud pingeid kasutab omakorda ära Venemaa"
// avatud lõpuga vähe Teabetööd toetava sisuga tundub või mis ?
november 2015
http://objektiiv.ee/alustas-uus-konservatiivne-poliitikateemaline-raadiosaade/
"Tre Raadios alustas möödunud nädalavahetusel uus poliitikateemaline jutusaade “Räägime asjast”, mis seab eesmärgiks rääkida Eesti asjadest nii, nagu nad on, mitte aga läbi Brüsseli-meelse ja vasakliberaalse propagandaprisma. Saatejuhtideks on Mart ja Martin Helme"
http://objektiiv.ee/kokkuvote-saptk-tegevusest-2015-aastal/
9 September 2017 04:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
9 September 2017 03:57
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9 September 2017 03:56
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9 September 2017 03:54
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9 September 2017 03:49
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9 September 2017 03:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Edasi:
" Objektiiv esimene annetuste kogumise kampaania osutus üle ootuste edukaks: enam kui 1900 inimest annetas portaali tegevuse jätkamiseks ja laiendamiseks rohkem kui 40 000 eurot.
Kampaania eesmärgiks oli koguda annetustena 25 000 eurot, kuna sel juhul lubasid kaks suurtoetajat annetada omalt poolt kokku veel 25 000 eurot. Eesmärk sai ületatud vähem kui kahe nädalaga ning kokkuvõttes saab Objektiiv rohkem kui 65 000 euro suuruse arengusüsti.
Portaali peatoimetaja Veiko Vihuri rõhutas kampaania tulemustest rääkides, et teadaolevalt ei ole Eestis mitte kunagi varem ühtegi meediaväljaannet puhtalt annetustele tuginedes käivitatud ja üles ehitatud. (Annetuste toel tegutseb ka Pereraadio, mille Tallinna stuudios sünnivad Objektiivi raadiosaated.) "
http://objektiiv.ee/portaali-objektiiv-uliedukas-annetustekampaania-annab-tunnistust-toelise-kodanikuuhiskonna-tarkamisest-eestis/
" Portaal Objektiiv alustas oma tegevust 18. oktoobril 2015. Ligi seitsme kuu jooksul on portaali külastanud rohkem kui 700 000-l korral enam kui veerand miljonit kasutajat. "
" Objektiiv esimene annetuste kogumise kampaania osutus üle ootuste edukaks: enam kui 1900 inimest annetas portaali tegevuse jätkamiseks ja laiendamiseks rohkem kui 40 000 eurot.
Kampaania eesmärgiks oli koguda annetustena 25 000 eurot, kuna sel juhul lubasid kaks suurtoetajat annetada omalt poolt kokku veel 25 000 eurot. Eesmärk sai ületatud vähem kui kahe nädalaga ning kokkuvõttes saab Objektiiv rohkem kui 65 000 euro suuruse arengusüsti.
Portaali peatoimetaja Veiko Vihuri rõhutas kampaania tulemustest rääkides, et teadaolevalt ei ole Eestis mitte kunagi varem ühtegi meediaväljaannet puhtalt annetustele tuginedes käivitatud ja üles ehitatud. (Annetuste toel tegutseb ka Pereraadio, mille Tallinna stuudios sünnivad Objektiivi raadiosaated.) "
http://objektiiv.ee/portaali-objektiiv-uliedukas-annetustekampaania-annab-tunnistust-toelise-kodanikuuhiskonna-tarkamisest-eestis/
" Portaal Objektiiv alustas oma tegevust 18. oktoobril 2015. Ligi seitsme kuu jooksul on portaali külastanud rohkem kui 700 000-l korral enam kui veerand miljonit kasutajat. "
http://objektiiv.ee/portaali-objektiiv-uliedukas-annetustekampaania-annab-tunnistust-toelise-kodanikuuhiskonna-tarkamisest-eestis/
9 September 2017 03:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" USA sõjatööstuskompleksi poolt kinnimakstud ja globalistlikku ideoloogiat edendava mõttekoja kaastöötaja Urve Eslas "
oot kuidas siis sellega on, Objetiiv siis on nii USA, Vene kui mille kõige kriitiline, ja kus on selgelt paika pandud need kritilisused ja selgitused, mida ja kuhu maani, miks.
kes on need kellega nõustume neilt maadelt ja kes need kes esindavad asjade edendamist mis meie inimolemusele tundub kahjulik..
Kuidagi julgemalt.. veel on aste paremat ja selgemat, harivamat kogukonda võimalik luua, taoliste portaalide osas.
Kuid ikkagi, need hea kvalitediga video materialid on ikkagi, vajalikud selleks milleks nad olema saavad, kes kuidas iganes mida alguses milleks loos
oot kuidas siis sellega on, Objetiiv siis on nii USA, Vene kui mille kõige kriitiline, ja kus on selgelt paika pandud need kritilisused ja selgitused, mida ja kuhu maani, miks.
kes on need kellega nõustume neilt maadelt ja kes need kes esindavad asjade edendamist mis meie inimolemusele tundub kahjulik..
Kuidagi julgemalt.. veel on aste paremat ja selgemat, harivamat kogukonda võimalik luua, taoliste portaalide osas.
Kuid ikkagi, need hea kvalitediga video materialid on ikkagi, vajalikud selleks milleks nad olema saavad, kes kuidas iganes mida alguses milleks loos
9 September 2017 03:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey,
Töö läheb edasi aga..
" Objektiivi kevadkampaania portaali tegevuseks vajalike rahaliste vahendite kogumisel on paljude inimeste abil taaskord edukalt lõpule viidud. Kampaania käigus saavutasime eesmärgiks seatud 40 000 euro piiri ja ületasime selle. Kokku annetasid peaaegu 2000 toetajat kampaania käigus ligi 45 000 eurot.
Nagu me juba kampaania alguses selgitasime, panevad kaks suurtoetajat nüüd meile omalt poolt õla alla ja annetavad lisaks väiksematest annetustest kogunenud summale Objektiivi tegevuse jätkamiseks lisaks veel 40 000 eurot. Nende rahaliste võimalustega saame jätkata portaali tegevust ja loodetavasti seda ka mõnevõrra laiendada. "
http://objektiiv.ee/taname-objektiiv-laheb-ligi-2000-annetaja-toetusele-oma-tooga-edasi/
ja siis nu selline jutt:
" Objektiivi üleval pidamine pole lihtsalt artiklite kirjutamine, uudiste tegemine ja saadete salvestamine – see on võitlus inimeseks olemise kesksete tõdede eest, mida rahvusriiki ja elementaarseid moraalipõhimõtteid süstemaatiliselt eirav ja maha trampiv võimuseltskond vaatab aina põlglikuma pilguga. Vastupidi, meie tegevusele üritatakse pidevalt halba varju heita ja meie vaateid nurka mängida. Selleks on ka tõsine põhjus: me ei sõltu mitte ühestki välisest jõust, ei Euroopa Liidust, ei USA võimuringkondadest, ei kohalikest erakondadest, ega ammugi mitte Venemaast. Me räägime avalikult iseseisva ja sõltumatu Eesti ideaalist ning selle kinnituseks oleme ise iseseisvad. Sellistena ajame loomulikult hirmu nahka paljudele, kes ei teeni mitte Eesti riigi ja selle kodanike, vaid võõramaiste isandate huve meie riigi pinnal.
Võib ainult oletada, miks ründas USA sõjatööstuskompleksi poolt kinnimakstud ja globalistlikku ideoloogiat edendava mõttekoja kaastöötaja Urve Eslas Objektiivi avalikult just sel hetkel, kui alustasime meie portaalile elulise tähtsusega annetustekampaaniat. Kui meil Objektiivi tegemiseks rahalisi vahendeid ei leidu, siis ei saa me lihtsalt oma tööga enam jätkata. Kahtlemata teavad paljud Objektiivi vaenlased meie sõltuvust tavaliste inimeste ja meie lugejate annetustest ning on valmis levitama meie kohta kahtlusi ja süüdistusi, et meie mainet kahjustada ja inimeste usaldust proovile panna. "
// nu .. aga kus siis on annetajate list, keda tänada... miks ei antud isegi võimalus inimestele selleks.. või muidu üldse...
midagi on siin liiga steriilset.. liiga eesrindliku... liiga oma kodumaast paraleel reaalsuses upitav..
" Meie tegevus jätkub ja kogub jõudu. Meie sõnum jõuab üha rohkemate inimesteni. Ja mis eriti oluline: Objektiiv on elavaks kinnituseks, et paljude inimeste ühisel jõul on võimalik teha suuri ja mõjukaid asju, mida keegi meist üksi korda saata ei suudaks.
Just seepärast tahamegi kõikidele annetajatele edastada kogu Objektiivi toimetuste nimel südamest tuleva tänuavalduse. "
Töö läheb edasi aga..
" Objektiivi kevadkampaania portaali tegevuseks vajalike rahaliste vahendite kogumisel on paljude inimeste abil taaskord edukalt lõpule viidud. Kampaania käigus saavutasime eesmärgiks seatud 40 000 euro piiri ja ületasime selle. Kokku annetasid peaaegu 2000 toetajat kampaania käigus ligi 45 000 eurot.
Nagu me juba kampaania alguses selgitasime, panevad kaks suurtoetajat nüüd meile omalt poolt õla alla ja annetavad lisaks väiksematest annetustest kogunenud summale Objektiivi tegevuse jätkamiseks lisaks veel 40 000 eurot. Nende rahaliste võimalustega saame jätkata portaali tegevust ja loodetavasti seda ka mõnevõrra laiendada. "
http://objektiiv.ee/taname-objektiiv-laheb-ligi-2000-annetaja-toetusele-oma-tooga-edasi/
ja siis nu selline jutt:
" Objektiivi üleval pidamine pole lihtsalt artiklite kirjutamine, uudiste tegemine ja saadete salvestamine – see on võitlus inimeseks olemise kesksete tõdede eest, mida rahvusriiki ja elementaarseid moraalipõhimõtteid süstemaatiliselt eirav ja maha trampiv võimuseltskond vaatab aina põlglikuma pilguga. Vastupidi, meie tegevusele üritatakse pidevalt halba varju heita ja meie vaateid nurka mängida. Selleks on ka tõsine põhjus: me ei sõltu mitte ühestki välisest jõust, ei Euroopa Liidust, ei USA võimuringkondadest, ei kohalikest erakondadest, ega ammugi mitte Venemaast. Me räägime avalikult iseseisva ja sõltumatu Eesti ideaalist ning selle kinnituseks oleme ise iseseisvad. Sellistena ajame loomulikult hirmu nahka paljudele, kes ei teeni mitte Eesti riigi ja selle kodanike, vaid võõramaiste isandate huve meie riigi pinnal.
Võib ainult oletada, miks ründas USA sõjatööstuskompleksi poolt kinnimakstud ja globalistlikku ideoloogiat edendava mõttekoja kaastöötaja Urve Eslas Objektiivi avalikult just sel hetkel, kui alustasime meie portaalile elulise tähtsusega annetustekampaaniat. Kui meil Objektiivi tegemiseks rahalisi vahendeid ei leidu, siis ei saa me lihtsalt oma tööga enam jätkata. Kahtlemata teavad paljud Objektiivi vaenlased meie sõltuvust tavaliste inimeste ja meie lugejate annetustest ning on valmis levitama meie kohta kahtlusi ja süüdistusi, et meie mainet kahjustada ja inimeste usaldust proovile panna. "
// nu .. aga kus siis on annetajate list, keda tänada... miks ei antud isegi võimalus inimestele selleks.. või muidu üldse...
midagi on siin liiga steriilset.. liiga eesrindliku... liiga oma kodumaast paraleel reaalsuses upitav..
" Meie tegevus jätkub ja kogub jõudu. Meie sõnum jõuab üha rohkemate inimesteni. Ja mis eriti oluline: Objektiiv on elavaks kinnituseks, et paljude inimeste ühisel jõul on võimalik teha suuri ja mõjukaid asju, mida keegi meist üksi korda saata ei suudaks.
Just seepärast tahamegi kõikidele annetajatele edastada kogu Objektiivi toimetuste nimel südamest tuleva tänuavalduse. "
http://objektiiv.ee/taname-objektiiv-laheb-ligi-2000-annetaja-toetusele-oma-tooga-edasi/
9 September 2017 03:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
9 September 2017 03:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
9 September 2017 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Käesoleva kampaania raames on iga annetus eriliselt hinnaline, kuna kaks suuremat toetajat on lubanud anda meie portaalile 25 000 eurot, kuid üksnes eeldusel, et väiksemad toetajad annetavad ühtekokku vähemalt sama suure summa. "
// Kuidas Aus ja Avatud, jätab mainimata KES need Suur annetajad on ja Miks nad annetavad?
(tavalise tõenäosusega oma enda ärimehed kes selle kapaaniaga teenivad, kuid muidugi ka vähem positiivsemaid versioone... )
// lihtsalt vastaspoole paranoiad siia kirja ära, et siis saaks keskenduda helgemale poolele
Punamustades värvides ka , kuid nu las olla. Olekski muidu liiga #ERR sarnane, eks ?
// Kuidas Aus ja Avatud, jätab mainimata KES need Suur annetajad on ja Miks nad annetavad?
(tavalise tõenäosusega oma enda ärimehed kes selle kapaaniaga teenivad, kuid muidugi ka vähem positiivsemaid versioone... )
// lihtsalt vastaspoole paranoiad siia kirja ära, et siis saaks keskenduda helgemale poolele
Punamustades värvides ka , kuid nu las olla. Olekski muidu liiga #ERR sarnane, eks ?
9 September 2017 03:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
I had this jacket long years before the picture (maybe up to 10).. and still have it now as main jacket ... so it is like 18 years old now soon : )
9 September 2017 00:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaa-_-aC0uc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaa-_-aC0uc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaa-_-aC0uc
9 September 2017 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja veel, et
https://www.facebook.com/SilmAseen/posts/1559150094412977
https://www.facebook.com/SilmAseen/posts/1559150094412977
9 September 2017 00:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ajatu, veel
https://www.facebook.com/SilmAseen/posts/1510712655923388
#2clinton_usa
https://www.facebook.com/SilmAseen/posts/1510712655923388
#2clinton_usa
9 September 2017 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
8 September 2017 23:58
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
Nii rahaliselt kui tasuta, nii vabatahtlikult kui sunniviisiliselt , nii salaja kui avatult, nii alateadlikult kui ka akadeemilise teadlikusega nii heade kui ka
8 September 2017 23:08
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
Thea Inno Elementaarne, muidu ju ei sobiks ennast Maailmaparandajaks pidada,
ja vähe sellest, ma veel tean kuidas võtmeist koopiaid teha ja neid jagada ajast ette ja taha
ja vähe sellest, ma veel tean kuidas võtmeist koopiaid teha ja neid jagada ajast ette ja taha
8 September 2017 23:07
Margus Meigo commented on Eduard Liška's photo.
My kind of animal : )
8 September 2017 23:05
Margus Meigo commented on Eduard Liška's photo.
Will it be compatible with European Union - EU / Estonia ID Kaart chipset ?
https://eid.eesti.ee/index.php/A_Short_Introduction_to_eID
https://eid.eesti.ee/index.php/A_Short_Introduction_to_eID
https://eid.eesti.ee/index.php/A_Short_Introduction_to_eID
8 September 2017 23:05
Margus Meigo commented on Gerli Grand's post.
Timm
8 September 2017 22:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
www.viljandi.ee/noorte-volikogu
http://www.viljandi.ee/noorte-volikogu
6 September 2017 14:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://sakala.postimees.ee/4234357/viljandi-noortevolikogu-otsib-uusi-liikmeid
http://sakala.postimees.ee/4234357/viljandi-noortevolikogu-otsib-uusi-liikmeid
6 September 2017 14:29
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
Ohoo.. isegi naised ise sellel teemal rääkinud, mitte ainult Juudi Rabbid ja Meigo Margus...
"In this state it’s actually impossible to love yourself and all well-meaning attempts like affirmations and the like will ultimately fail."
https://drkatharina.com/why-you-should-stop-trying-to-love-yourself/
"In this state it’s actually impossible to love yourself and all well-meaning attempts like affirmations and the like will ultimately fail."
https://drkatharina.com/why-you-should-stop-trying-to-love-yourself/
https://drkatharina.com/why-you-should-stop-trying-to-love-yourself/
29 August 2017 12:57
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
Minu nõelamiseks, on vaja mu Südant reeta,
kuid seegi kestab päeva paar
(kuigi nõelaja ise kunagi enam sama päris pole..)
kuid seegi kestab päeva paar
(kuigi nõelaja ise kunagi enam sama päris pole..)
29 August 2017 12:39
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
inspireeris, meil on koostöö ju,
Sina tõid võimaluse, mu seda jagada mis on ja seda likvideerida mis ei ole
Sina tõid võimaluse, mu seda jagada mis on ja seda likvideerida mis ei ole
29 August 2017 12:33
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
" Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the LORD and shun evil. "
" Do not forsake wisdom, and she will protect you; love her, and she will watch over you. 7 The beginning of wisdom is this: Get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding." (rõhk sõnal " HER " / Naissugu )
" The wise woman builds her house, but with her own hands the foolish one tears hers down. "
" Blessed are those who find wisdom, those who gain understanding, "
" My goal is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
" But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere."
http://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/wisdom-bible-verses/
" Is not wisdom found among the aged? Does not long life bring understanding?
" Do not forsake wisdom, and she will protect you; love her, and she will watch over you. 7 The beginning of wisdom is this: Get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding." (rõhk sõnal " HER " / Naissugu )
" The wise woman builds her house, but with her own hands the foolish one tears hers down. "
" Blessed are those who find wisdom, those who gain understanding, "
" My goal is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
" But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere."
http://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/wisdom-bible-verses/
" Is not wisdom found among the aged? Does not long life bring understanding?
29 August 2017 12:26
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
Ha Haa.... dude telling about him self, that HE IS WISE
Humor of the century
(well, it is still lasting, ... the ideology of not caring about others but only about Self self self.. and so the Satan walks, )
Humor of the century
(well, it is still lasting, ... the ideology of not caring about others but only about Self self self.. and so the Satan walks, )
29 August 2017 12:26
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ja milline, (eestikeeles kokkuvõtvalt, tõlge, ) on täpsemalt lipsumehe jutt sisult, et kas saad teistele veel täpsustada? kui oskad
29 August 2017 12:24
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Vot, see on hea küsimus.
Miks Sa arvad?
Miks Sa arvad?
29 August 2017 12:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just wondr, ... these people who say this was best etc... have they really seen Your older material,
your true being.. and are they really doing a good Job with these comments or are they re enforcing implemented realty
your true being.. and are they really doing a good Job with these comments or are they re enforcing implemented realty
29 August 2017 11:29
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's photo.
still worry about pentagrams in there and i saw there a lot of energy that made me worry,
this for me was that made me worry, many other ones before that made me inspired about power of female
this for me was that made me worry, many other ones before that made me inspired about power of female
29 August 2017 11:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
uh, ei polenutki midagi
29 August 2017 10:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
raamatkogus
29 August 2017 10:44
Margus Meigo replied to Riho Vassiljev's comment.
Riho Vassiljev kas see ongi sinu liberaalne vastus jälle ?
Õpi Eestlase moodi reaalselt KASULIKULT vastama, mitte ära plähmerda, seda oskab iga kommunist ka.
Õpi Eestlase moodi reaalselt KASULIKULT vastama, mitte ära plähmerda, seda oskab iga kommunist ka.
24 August 2017 16:58
Margus Meigo replied to Riho Vassiljev's comment.
Mis need põhipõhjused siis täpsemalt on kui oskad algusest saati ülesloetleda?
24 August 2017 16:10
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Madison's post.
Too neid põhi miinuskohtasi ka välja. Siis teaksin oma võlukunsti teha minna ja torkida, surkida tuhas.
// Lehest just ka selline lõik jäi IRL - Isamaa ja Res Publica Liit i kohta silma
Muidugi tuleb meeles pidada ka nende reaalset ja teoreetilist pärandit Eesti Kodumaale, mis on vaieldamatu ja väga suur olnud (enne seda kui ühe ja teise ajud võideti..).
Muidugi kahju, et rünnakute all nad suudetud ära pudendada, väliselt vähemalt, ehk mõni süsi veel hõõgub, ja kunagi saab lõkke üles... aga selleks peab hea tulemeister olema,
Anna hallpeadele au, võitjad ei pea muretsema kaotajate materdamiste pärast kuid need kes jooksu takerdavad reaalse ohuna, nende osas tuleb küll pussnuga vööl hoida, ka magades, puhates.
Fabiani strateegia neil vaenlastel oma slooganile lausa..
(Fabian Society... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society#Establishment )
// Lehest just ka selline lõik jäi IRL - Isamaa ja Res Publica Liit i kohta silma
Muidugi tuleb meeles pidada ka nende reaalset ja teoreetilist pärandit Eesti Kodumaale, mis on vaieldamatu ja väga suur olnud (enne seda kui ühe ja teise ajud võideti..).
Muidugi kahju, et rünnakute all nad suudetud ära pudendada, väliselt vähemalt, ehk mõni süsi veel hõõgub, ja kunagi saab lõkke üles... aga selleks peab hea tulemeister olema,
Anna hallpeadele au, võitjad ei pea muretsema kaotajate materdamiste pärast kuid need kes jooksu takerdavad reaalse ohuna, nende osas tuleb küll pussnuga vööl hoida, ka magades, puhates.
Fabiani strateegia neil vaenlastel oma slooganile lausa..
(Fabian Society... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society#Establishment )
24 August 2017 16:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Need kes usuvad, et pole ei head ega halba ja usuvad, et pole ei piina ega ilu.. need selle olemust ja puudust saavad maitsta, osad, keda ei jõuta päästa, kõige raskematel moodustel...
Kuid kuidas sa päästad neid (teiste hingesi hävitamast) kes eest jooksevad, arvates, et (iseenda)vabatahe on parem kui Jumalatahe
//
suunaga veel fb meelde tuletas nime nagu:
Armastuse Jumalanna
Kuid kuidas sa päästad neid (teiste hingesi hävitamast) kes eest jooksevad, arvates, et (iseenda)vabatahe on parem kui Jumalatahe
//
suunaga veel fb meelde tuletas nime nagu:
Armastuse Jumalanna
24 August 2017 14:28
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
Great archive of videos of Your large life will stay !
23 August 2017 16:27
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
How many dogs did You got?
23 August 2017 16:23
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
Nicwe to See You again Lanora!
23 August 2017 16:20
Margus Meigo replied to Kenno Remmel's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
kuidas see ikka juhtus, et Ratas ministriks sai ma aru ei saa23 August 2017 16:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Jaak Madison Supper!23 August 2017 16:15
Margus Meigo commented on Siim Suurpere's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kuidas nii on, et ei häbene nad ka, et punasel taustal..23 August 2017 16:14
Margus Meigo commented on Maret Vaanola's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Millest muidu jutu sisu ja asjad olid?
See video kus ta muidu päris kõvasti välja naeris ühe Eestlase venekeele oskuse ... nu ka see oli asja väärt.
Mees küll lipsumees, kuid ikkagi, musta vööga, mitmes vallas,
Kui ta muidugi päris julgeks saab ja vaimurohud legaliseerib, et iniemsed ise targaks saaksid ja endast hoolima hakkasid, siis veel eriti suur tase, ja ta nii targa plaaniga pundi taga, et ei ole imestada kui selle lükke enne Ameerikalsi ära teevad ja ajalukku jäävad kui planeedi vabastajad ja vabastajatena tulnukad neile ülevõimu muidugi andma peaks, sest kellele siis veel..23 August 2017 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on Maret Vaanola's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Asjalik
Peab veel paar kirja saatma23 August 2017 16:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
muidugi see homopromo asi iseenesest on suht nukker ka, ääretult nukker kui aru ei saada mis ja miks loodud on ja sellised ülemäära kerglased ollakse...
Kuidas sellise maine eeskostjatega same siis nagu nüüd koostööd teha, kuigi, naturaalselt muidugi vaadates peaks ju, toetama Eesti ülekõige rohelust ja kõike naturaalset... kuid jah... oeh, kurvaks teeb kui ilusatel inimestel selline sajoob peas ise juba abielu eas,23 August 2017 16:08
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Tuisk's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ise olles pea militaristlikus mõttes roheline,
on tegelikult suht nukker kuulda, et sellise isa poeg ja naine taolist asja toetavad, et ei ole neil see kiriklik asi õige nende arvates ega.. nu selliste asjade kallal sedasi norida pulmapäeval üleolevalt..
http://elu24.postimees.ee/4203477/video-zuzu-izmailova-tundis-abielu-registreerides-suumepiinu-mul-on-palju-sopru-kes-seda-eestis-teha-ei-saa?_ga=2.143315955.751156917.1502174917-232416419.1497618435
Kui See abielu kestma jääb, olen ka muidu üllatunud,
mine tea, peale laste saamisi pidi nagu inimesed kasvama rohkem tõetruuks ja asjalikumaks, praegu ikka nagu... mees pulmas endiselt mingi kikilipsukesega ja siis leiavad aega, et norida pulmarituaalide osashttp://elu24.postimees.ee/4203477/video-zuzu-izmailova-tundis-abielu-registreerides-suumepiinu-mul-on-palju-sopru-kes-seda-eestis-teha-ei-saa?_ga=2.143315955.751156917.1502174917-232416419.1497618435
23 August 2017 16:06
Margus Meigo commented on Edmond Penu's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Vaadake, et tort oleks rammus, naturaalne ja mitte odav suhkru sefiirikas
Ja pakkuge ikka palju muud ka, armastus käib ka kõhukaudu ja vaadatakse eriti selliste tõsiste mulkide poolt, kui koonerdaja keegi on,
alkoholi ei soovita eriti serveerida, suhkur tooge ka pruun mitte kõige odavam valge mürk.
Korralikud mahlad v värskad, veed mitte odavad suhkrujoogimahlad mis nõmeda maitse jätavad.
Lihtsalt, soovitused laua osas.
Kuid ideed olgu südamest ja tugevasti siirad, tuumik kohalike probleeme ka puudutav ja midagi mis näitab, kudias Eestit kokku liita soovitakse ja kauemat hoolimist kui nelja aastat pakutakse23 August 2017 15:54
Margus Meigo commented on Urmas Espenberg's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Hea seegi, et pulmadesse investeerib22 August 2017 16:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Piibli huviline ka
https://www.facebook.com/groups/508340719306603/permalink/998896163584387/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/508340719306603/permalink/998896163584387/
22 August 2017 14:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: House of Rothschild
Continnued:
" The Baron's interest, however, was by no means confined to agricultural settlement. Convinced that the growing Jewish community in the Land of Israel would ultimately become independent, he invested financial resources and tireless energy to the Yishuv's industrial development. With his assistance and that of his descendants', the Yishuv's first industries and basic infrastructure were established: wineries, factories for agricultural products, even the first power stations. Two of the wineries founded by the Baron, one in Rishon LeZion and the other in Zikhron Ya'akov, were among the world's largest at the time.
The Baron also directed his concern toward the health of the pioneer farmers. The Yishuv was plagued with mosquito-ridden swamps and poor hygienic conditions; malaria was rife. The Baron set out to eradicate the cause of malaria by financing the long-term project of draining of the swamps; at the same time, he created special clinics to care for the many malaria patients.
The Baron had an abiding commitment to the Hebrew language and religion. He established synagogues and schools, encouraging the use of the Hebrew language. 'I have heard many French poems in France', he announced on one occasion. 'Here [in the Land of Israel], I will be delighted to hear Hebrew poetry'. He encouraged the pioneers to retain their connections to Judaism in their own way: 'The sense of religion is a principle among Jews', he told them. 'Only a sense of religion can unite all parts of the world...You were the first to show the way of agriculture to those who will follow you. You are also obliged to show them the way of the Hebrew heart.’
Baron Edmond de Rothschild's involvement with the Zionist movement began during World War I. In 1924 he founded the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association (PICA), which managed the acquisition of land in Israel, and appointed his son James as president. In recognition of his work, the Baron was made Honorary Chairman of the Jewish Agency for Israel in 1929.
He died in 1934 at the age of 89. The Baron's death plunged the Yishuv into mourning along with the entire Jewish world. His wife, Baroness Adelheid de Rothschild, had been his full, active partner, and accompanied him on each of his five visits to the Land of Israel. She herself led a variety of philanthropic projects in the Yishuv and founded the Institute for Jewish Youth in Paris. She died in 1935, not long after her husband, and was laid to rest beside him.
Some twenty years after their deaths, the remains of Baron and Baroness de Rothschild were brought to Israel aboard a naval vessel of the young State of Israel. They were reinterred in a state ceremony at Ramat Hanadiv, between two settlements named for the Baron and his father respectively – Binyamina and Zikhron Ya'akov.
David Ben-Gurion, Israel's first prime minister, eulogized the Baron as follows: 'I doubt that, in the entire history of the Jewish people in the Diaspora, a period of 2,000 years, one could ever find a man comparable in stature to the incredible character that was the Baron Edmond de Rothschild – the builder of the Jewish Yishuv in our renewed homeland.’
"22 August 2017 14:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(the name change .. but perhaps this gives me option in future to access that name.. as it is one of the best ones i have seen for what is needed)
22 August 2017 12:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/science/2017/07/11/solar-eclipse-2017-heres-everything-you-need-know/464345001/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/science/2017/07/11/solar-eclipse-2017-heres-everything-you-need-know/464345001/
22 August 2017 12:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tech & Chash
https://techcrunch.com/2017/08/17/virtual-telescope-company-slooh-is-ready-for-the-eclipse/
https://techcrunch.com/2017/08/17/virtual-telescope-company-slooh-is-ready-for-the-eclipse/
https://techcrunch.com/2017/08/17/virtual-telescope-company-slooh-is-ready-for-the-eclipse/
22 August 2017 12:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Old times Egypt priests would have cashed in proper on this kind of events,
seems in this times we try also, but just a bit less epic ways
seems in this times we try also, but just a bit less epic ways
22 August 2017 12:18
Margus Meigo replied to Taimi Asu's comment.
Group: Kristlased
ja teatavasti, püha rahva keeles,
on jumala number 5777 aasta nimi, ELUL ... selge tähendus .: )22 August 2017 12:08
Margus Meigo commented on Super's photo.
Juba ainuüksi see mõnitus, et viisnurga kujuga,...
22 August 2017 11:57
Margus Meigo commented on Georg Kirsberg's post.
Group: EI IMMIGRATSIOONILE (EI)
Mina just käisin promomas nende mosees ammu aastaid tagasi juba, et vaja teha ilus mosee eestis, puidust,
ka sellepärast, et kui üle käte minnakse saab tule otsa panna,
kudi mitmel pühal ja eliitsel põhjusel ka,
lisaks sellele, et saaksime ja hoiaksime sie religioonikorra suunda siis..
kuid praeguses eraldatuses.. see võimalus läheb käest...22 August 2017 11:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kena jah, aga midagi müstilist ta kohta veel ei leidnud, peale selle, et oli Egyptuses püha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musk_beetle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musk_beetle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musk_beetle
22 August 2017 11:35
Margus Meigo replied to Tanel Vainumäe's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Tuleb GLOBAALSELT arusaada, mida tehakse meiesuguste riikidega ja miks ja kuidas, algus materialgi.
Ja siis liita sinna suts juurde, et vaenlast austada ja ruumi anda, strateegile ruumi, et üleliia üllatusi poleks.
On vaja palju mõistmist, austust ja andestust.
Ja arusaama, et luukeresi hakkab lendama nii, et on kui keegi kontrollitud struktuuri vastu minema hakkab, "omad" ise hakkavad põhja laskma omasi,
kuid seda ei tasu karta, kui mulle oma patud enne ära rääkida ja vabandust paluda, lahendust paluda, siis ma selle ka loon koos kaitsega, milline iganes see luukere on.
Ausus on alati suurimaid lahendusi ja kaitseid kui armu soovida ' Jumalalt22 August 2017 11:13
Margus Meigo replied to Tanel Vainumäe's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
senikaua kui osadel meie endi ridades, Eestlaste ridades, on arusaamad, et oma valitsusele tuleb tuld anda.. senikaua ma rahulikult küll sama lauataga ei saa istuda ja võin ise tule andmisega alustada kui mingi muu isiksus mul aktiviseeritud on hetke emotsioonis22 August 2017 11:10
Margus Meigo replied to Uku Praks's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
(nagu näha aitan ka ilma maksmata rohkem, kui enamus ette julgeb võtta, või kui suurel osal julgust aimata on, kui kriitiliselt vajalik ja kui lihtsalt võimalik see on)22 August 2017 11:06
Margus Meigo replied to Uku Praks's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
ja kuidas seda enamust korraldada, selles osas tõesti, saab mind palgata.
Ettemaksuna alustades.
Palgata selleks, et saaksin tööle keskenduda, ilma, et peaks mõtlema et kuidas kuskil veel teenida, et saaksin tööd teha millega teised loorbere lõikama hakkavad22 August 2017 11:05
Margus Meigo replied to Uku Praks's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Plaan suts suur, et siia kasti kirjutada,
kuid kui kellegil aega kohtuda on, ja paar päeva asjalikult kuulata ja nõustuda, siis saaksin päris asjaliku võimustruktuuri kätte anda, mis paneks mäletama ja viiks edasi.
Alustuseks erariides kultuuri korrigeeriad kes teavad mis on vajalik kutluuri suund ja mis ei ole, öised noorte nõustajad kes suudavad nendega koos "peale teha " kui vaja ja rahvusliku tarkust jagada,
samas A-Team grupid keda saaks kutsuda, kui REAALSELT vaja nuuti anda ja lisaks peaks üles otsima need kaagid siin Viljandis kellest räägitakse, kes käivad tellimuse peal proffessionaalselt molli inimstel andmas kui palgatakse, lisaks tuleks joomine ja laaberdamine ära lõpetada, noortele pereväärtused selgeks teha, ja see selgeks teha, et Naine on ülem mehest.
On vaja noorpolve kes oskab puid, õunapuid ja muud sellist aretada, kes osakb relvahoidmisest veel paremini reaalseid puit majasi ehitada ja pere kaitsta nii maiselt, vaimselt kui intellektuaalselt.22 August 2017 11:03
Margus Meigo replied to Mare Imral's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Muidugi see pole ainuke põhjus miks nad võidavad, kuid mida EKRE teha saab, on maximaalselt kohaliku valitsust sundima valukohti parandama, sest oluline pole kes võidab, vaid kas ja kuidas Viljandi paremaks saab,
Viljandile peab EKRE täie südamega ka kaasa edasi aitama siis kui ei võida, sest see on see mida reaalsed Viljandi südamega armastajad teevad, mitte ei aja ainult poliitika võimu taga, vaid reaalselt aitavad Viljandit.
Omamoodi Eesti Süda see ja loodetav kuningriikide algus siit ka saama hakkab22 August 2017 10:57
Margus Meigo replied to Mare Imral's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
kus need käsud olitki täpsemalt?
Ega see nuuti andmine reaalne käsk polnud ja kus on kaakide välimääraja ?
Viga on inimesel kes sellise mageda postri tegi EKRE le meelega või kogematta,
Reformi TUGEV VILJANDI koos nende piltidega, olgugi, et ka lipsumehed,
on TUNDUVALT tugevam ja parem, ja Viljandile südamepärasem,
sellepärast nad täiesti kindlat ka võidavad selle asja,
Ülltavam kui presidendi juhus oleks, kui teistmoodi läheks22 August 2017 10:55
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Kivimaa's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kanepivennad võib olla alasektor,
me ikka Jumala Vennaskond22 August 2017 10:53
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
kokkuvõttes läbi varju orgnaisatsioonidega teinud erakonnad, nad igal maal vastavalt sellele mida nende kohalikud kommunistide ja imperialistide teadlased on välja raalinud iga maa "ideaalseim südamepärasus" mille aitavad võimule likvideerides kõik struktuurid mis ette jäävad (isegi rahandusministeerium või ringhäälingud, nende hooneid vahetades, töölisi vahetades jne, et oleksid uued inimesed ja ruumid mida kontrollida, kus igalpoool oleks käpp sees kes ajapikku rohkem omasi tooma hakkab sisse ja ohtlikuid reaalseid kodumaalasi likvideerima kui tarvis... sedasi üle planeedi)
samal ajal teevad lihtsalt mõtetut lärmi muude lollitamistega, tähelepanu kõrvale juhtimiseks,
samal ajal rhastatakse väär noorte kultuure, uue liha peale kasvatuseks, keda omakorda varju org kaudu rahastada ja kilbina kasutada ja kes maa idelooogiaid seestpoolt, nurgakivisi muudavad, üle maailma üksteist toetades, enamus suures osas naiivselt ja siiralt kellele söödetakse sama plaani eri nurkade vaateid nagu globaalseid õigeid suunadasi mida "teised normaalsed" arvavad.
Tavapärased, lihtsad plaanid
Asjad mudiugi veel mitu kiti sügavamad, huvitavamad, laiemad ja võimsamad, haarates kaasa nii nõidasi, telepaatiat, keemilisi mõjutusi ja emotsionaalseid, armastusega seotud mõjutusi ja rünnakuid kui tarvis kedagi likvideerida/mõjutada... aineid on peeneid ja mitmesuguseid, mis naturaalselt inimesi muudab järkjärgult...
alahinnata sellist impeeriumi, Globaalse plaaniga impeeriumi nagu Roomalsed ja tänapäeva põhirusikas, Venelased.. on ikka suur suur eksimus, nad nii vaimu, tehnoloogia kui muudes valdades korraga töötavad sedasi, et kui nelja silma alla kelle iganes viivad, msi iganes erakonnast, siis see põlvili laskub kui suudab suuruse ja sügavuse plaanidest aru saada,
umbes nagu Jaan Tammsalu vabamüürlastesse moraalselt sunniti, kui naturaalselt tema enda ammu tuntud koguduse ja sõbrad järjest ta juuurde korraga tulid ja ütlesid, "meie oleme ka.. see on hea.."
ja siis oleks väga ebasobilik mitte liituda, olenemata eelarvamusest.
Kuid tullakse veel räigemalt peale kui vaja ja kujundatakse kelle iganes maine enamuste silmis milleks iganes. Eriti kui positsiooni vaja vabastada oma meestele, ..vaatakse mis selle riide..rõivaga juhtus, enne kui ta midagi tegema hakkas, järsku üle eesti, enamustes ineterneti nurkades oli tema kohta igast idiootsete juttude massiline ülekaal sellises tasemes, et kui keegi julges küsida... analyysida, et too tegelane pole ju REAALSELT veel jõudnud isegi midagi teha, ammugi midagi valesti.. (ja ta inimisikuselt ei olnud tegelikult ei nõme ega halb) siis see inimene sai kohe suure rünnaku aluseks...
ja siis tuli Ratas, ja siis naeratatakse "Nu jah.. mis teha.. nu on sedasi Ha ha ha "
kuigi ratas isegi ülltavalt viisakas veel olnud arvestades kui vähese oskusega ja vajalikusega ta nii olulise positsiooni jaoks on... mis on siis vene käes praegu22 August 2017 10:53
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kui palju peab kordama, see pole EESTI valitsus, kes seda teeb?
Need tehnoloogiad, milega inimajude kallale tullakse, loota, et me sellest pääseme kui sinna pääseme, ilma ettevalmistuseta, on naiivne.
Kõik see multikulti ja muud asjad on ette valmistatud selleks, et lisaks solkimisele tuua üles LOODUD konservatiivseid erakondi kes vene psüholoogiaga kontrollitavad, kes siis lahenduse toovad,
tõeliselt soovitan Alexander Dugini asju lugeda mis avalikud, nende think tank weebileht
Hea algus:
http://katehon.com/person/alexander-dugin
http://katehon.com/authors Loe ka teisi siit...
http://katehon.com/article/alexander-dugins-interview-alex-jones .. ja isegi selle hullumeelsega koos... kes ammu Ameerika sees vene tööd teinud hirmutamisega
Ja palju muid lehti:
http://www.4pt.su/
https://www.geopolitica.ru/en/person/alexander-dugin
https://4threvolutionarywar.wordpress.com/tag/alexander-dugin/
Lääne kajastus:
http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/the-dangerous-philosopher-behind-putins-strategy-to-grow-russian-power-at-americas-expense
https://qz.com/871975/aleksandr-dugin-putins-favorite-philosopher-is-a-big-fan-of-donald-trump/
http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/article/mind-games-alexander-dugin-and-russia%E2%80%99s-war-ideas
Esimese lingi pealt otsi üles see 5nda kolonni jms asjad, loe see mis otse räägivad, arvesta nende plaane ja ideid ja ka suurplaani ideoloogilist koostööd http://www.fabians.org.uk/about/the-fabian-story/ (fännid Marxist kuni Stalinini vabalt...)
Võta arvesse K G ja B tuleviku plaanid kui nad 20 aastat enne lagunemist planeerima juba hakkasid ja nende Rooma Impeeriumi juri ja ideid, ideoloogiaid, tehnoloogiaid ja mooduseid,
ja kudias nad oma arvestes läbi Tondaldi uute tööliste omavad USAd edaspidi. (nagu Obama mõruda naljana ütles, see oli võibolla USA viimane valimine..)http://katehon.com/person/alexander-dugin
22 August 2017 10:39
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ikka arvutis, ikka korralikus arvutis
22 August 2017 10:28
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
(kommunistid, satanistid)21 August 2017 15:00
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
See on viisnurga EU liit.. mitte Eesti kes neid siia toob21 August 2017 14:59
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
mure on Eestlaste suhtumine oma riiiki, mitte immigrandid, immigrandid tõmbaksid ise jeed, kui me kokku hoiaksime ja neid kysitleksime teravalt.. nagu ma teen..21 August 2017 14:59
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Nad ei saa globaalset võimu seni kuni MEIE alles oleme.
ära mõtle lapsikult, milline meie valitsus MEIE oma oli, arvad, et see mida massiliselt loodi 1918 üle maa v vabamüürlaste poolt?21 August 2017 14:58
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
vaenlased saavad nii võimsaid rahvaid , inimesi, kodumaaad nagu Eestlasi, ainult hävitada meie endi kaudu, ja seda nad ka hoogsalt teevad, kas see elementaarne, info siis pole jõudnud huvilisteni, et Venemaal ÜLE planeedi konservatiivsete erakondade vorpimine käib, et siis ühendada ühte suurde liitu need struktuurid, nii nagu Alexander Dugin on instrueerinud21 August 2017 14:53
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Oma riiki, kõike struktuure, neid mis vaja säilitada, tuleb kogu südamega AIDATA, mitte hävitada, sest kui viimased müürid ka maha kisud, siis arvata, et saavad KUNAGI üldse eestlased troonile enam.. on naiivsemast naiivne, eriti, kuna seda tuld annavad iniemsed, kes saavad toetust me kodumaa vastastelt, kes toetatud nende poolt kellel salalepingud meie iidsema vastasega, Rooma impeeriumi järeltulijaga21 August 2017 14:51
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kenno Remmel EI iial ma ei hakka liituma vaenlastega, et oma riiki hävitada, eriti .. täiesti anarhistide ja laste tasemel mõtlemine21 August 2017 14:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja nüüd näitab seda postitust ka kahekordselt,
Sedasi ikka juhtub, kui on "man in the middle attack" ehk kui liivaBoxis inimesed on, FB koopiaga ja siis suhtleb virtuaal fb iga päris fb asemel,
kus valikuliselt on paar päris kontakti ja ülejäänud hoitakse päris FB eemal, ammu mõelnud sellise tehnoloogia elementaarsuse peale
Sedasi ikka juhtub, kui on "man in the middle attack" ehk kui liivaBoxis inimesed on, FB koopiaga ja siis suhtleb virtuaal fb iga päris fb asemel,
kus valikuliselt on paar päris kontakti ja ülejäänud hoitakse päris FB eemal, ammu mõelnud sellise tehnoloogia elementaarsuse peale
21 August 2017 14:44
Margus Meigo replied to Arvo Sagur's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ega ta veel vastanud pole ka..21 August 2017 14:40
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Kivimaa's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kaie Kallas Kuid mis see midagi muud siis on?
Kas see, et eirame, TÄNU kellele Ekre sai eetriaja, kuulsuse ja populaarsuse?21 August 2017 14:40
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Kivimaa's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Eeri Luik LIIGA tavaline ?
Mis meil on vaja mingite hüüdlausetega lollitada ja nännutada v?
Meil on vaja reaalset Eesti asja ajada, mitte tola mängida.21 August 2017 14:39
Margus Meigo replied to Anti Soosaar's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Esiteks, meil on vaja ÜHTSELT aru saada, reaalselt ja asjalikult, praktiliselt,
Mitte liberalistlikult "igalyhel oma tase"
ehk siis suur vaht ja ei miskeid tegusi, sest igaüks oma teel , omas suunas
Kannad ka lipsu v?21 August 2017 14:37
Margus Meigo replied to Argo Argo's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Sa ikka nii kinni oma tule asjas, ma räägin, et KOGU see asi on niru , jeerum.
Küll SUL on ikka rosin21 August 2017 14:36
Margus Meigo replied to Eeri Luik's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ikka tead, et need rohud, millest me räägime, psühedeelsed, kasvatavad/taastavad ajaurakke (sõnaotseses mõttes) ja panevad inimese arusaama, mõistma asjadest mille jaoks enne potensiaali polnud.
See väga elementaarne, kui natukenegi reaalselt uurida viitsid kaugemale kui rooma impeeriumi/kommunistide propakandast
Kohe peale seda, hakkad ka mõistma, miks mis asjad lubatud ja keelatud on globaalselt.21 August 2017 14:36
Margus Meigo replied to Eeri Luik's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Pigem rohkem, et arusaadaks, kui närune see asi on,
Kui alkoholi või sigareti/teleka uimas olla, ega siis ei pruugi tõesti mõista, kuidas Jumala silme ja selgemeelsete, maainimeste, loodusinimeste silmis välja näeb see komejant21 August 2017 14:34
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
EESTI valitsusele?
Ohmoon oled v? Või Sa päris hästi ei saa aru mida Sa just ütlesid ?21 August 2017 14:33
Margus Meigo replied to Edgar Viigimäe's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Peeter Pesur loodan, et see minu pihta ei käinud,21 August 2017 14:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
21 August 2017 14:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
21 August 2017 14:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See kaks ülemist logis, on selle postituse logi:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/508340719306603/permalink/998896163584387/
Kuid kommenteerisin, küsisin et mis tolle nimi on jms
https://www.facebook.com/groups/508340719306603/permalink/998896163584387/
Kuid kommenteerisin, küsisin et mis tolle nimi on jms
21 August 2017 14:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muidugi seda pilti ei ole, kudias ta just seinal oli see postitus,
kuid Toomas Sirge / Sass Vask teie vist kommisite seda ka?
Kas teil on võimalik ekraanikas teha sellest, kuidas ma üleeilase video osas enne just kommenteerisin?
Kui see notification alles on, siis see eelmine ekraani pilt, mis just postitasin, oleks hea tõestusmaterial ühe asjatarvis,
sest selle sees ei kajastu, et oma seinal enne videole just kommenteerisin
kuid Toomas Sirge / Sass Vask teie vist kommisite seda ka?
Kas teil on võimalik ekraanikas teha sellest, kuidas ma üleeilase video osas enne just kommenteerisin?
Kui see notification alles on, siis see eelmine ekraani pilt, mis just postitasin, oleks hea tõestusmaterial ühe asjatarvis,
sest selle sees ei kajastu, et oma seinal enne videole just kommenteerisin
21 August 2017 14:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
21 August 2017 14:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// Huvitav ja siis nüüd iseenesest kustus see video ära mul siit seinalt,
Just 10 min tagasi kommenteerisin, ja isegi see et kommenteerisin ei olnud konto activiti logis näha .. veider veider,
Omakorda veider muidugi, et pea 5000 inimese ja YT peale kokku 18 kuvamist ainult.
Just 10 min tagasi kommenteerisin, ja isegi see et kommenteerisin ei olnud konto activiti logis näha .. veider veider,
Omakorda veider muidugi, et pea 5000 inimese ja YT peale kokku 18 kuvamist ainult.
21 August 2017 14:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Kas neende impeeriumite lugu on ajalooliselt täpselt paigas ja kirjas ka millele need kehtisid siis?
St. teadlaste, ajaloolaste enda arvates,
+ siis küsimus mis enne küsisin piltide all.21 August 2017 14:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
Just tänapäeva kontektstis, kas need impeeriumid saavad olla ka
Hiina, Ameerika, Euroopa ja Vene ja Vene see, Rooma impeeriumi osa, kes omakorda kõikide teiste üle võimu haarab
(ameerika Vene arvates juba on vene all, Trumbi ja tema meeskonnaga )21 August 2017 14:09
Margus Meigo replied to Liilian Vilumets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
nii me jumalalt nõuame, et nad alles hoiaks ja andestaks kõigile neile..21 August 2017 14:08
Margus Meigo replied to Liilian Vilumets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
nu kas me asi seda andeksandmist soovida igaleühele21 August 2017 14:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
Selle kõige osas saate pikemalt rääkida?19 August 2017 15:00
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
Päästate kalasi
19 August 2017 14:50
Margus Meigo commented on Georg Kirsberg's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Osati see on küll nagu näkku sülitamine,
kuid kui nende koolituste SISU tugevalt Eestimeelne, maaelu meelne oleks, elu õpetav, siis olgu mis iganes keelne,
kuid sedasi, see ainult aitab arendada seda mida vene eri programmid juba läbi aafrika ammu planeerinud ja arendanud,
lisaks nende seas kohanud ka kõrgharidustega neegreid, kes venekeelt sorvalt rääkisid sedasi, et kohalikud venelasid panid ühes tülis, tööjuures paika kus olime (miski madratsite tootmis firma tallinna ligi).
Need kolm neegruid olid Ukrainast..18 August 2017 16:57
Margus Meigo replied to Arvo Sagur's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ja nime mida küsisin, ikka veel keegi ei tea, kuid Ju madis ise tea, uurime.18 August 2017 16:50
Margus Meigo replied to Arvo Sagur's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kuid sellegipoolest,
Eestlastele pole sobilik lipsuga poseerida, ei vanasti ega nüüd, eriti mitte nüüd kui arusaamad peaks arusaadavamad olema, kui põlastusväärne see päriseestlaste silmis on18 August 2017 16:48
Margus Meigo replied to Arvo Sagur's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Peaasi, et ta juut olla, siis ehk Jumalameeski, ju kohtas teel pruudi juurde mõnda habemikku kes tal Jumalariigist rääkinud ja peale seda enam eip joonud ja ennnäe imet, saigi endale maapealse paradiisi järgmistele põlvedeni välja, ju see piiblilugu siis ikka tõsõ olnud18 August 2017 16:47
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Karpenko's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Andrus Karpenko Sa kohe vist ei oska vait jääda?
Viin selle jutu privaat aknasse edasi,
Muidu jäätki esinema.
Näeme boxis.18 August 2017 16:35
Margus Meigo replied to Uku Praks's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Õnneks ma tegutsen ööpäevaringselt.18 August 2017 16:34
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Karpenko's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Andrus Karpenko ära siis palun jaga seda alergiat, vaid mine rohima
ja enne kui tuled vahutama, mõtle ka , mis kasu Su sõnadest siin on ja kuhu see viib.
Vene kroonu muidugi mitmetpidi inimestele mõjunud, kuid ega selle kroonu eesmärk inimlike väärtuste arusaame ja tunnetust arendada polnud, ja kui Sa seda iseseisvalt peale seda kroonut teinud pole ega mitte omale habet kasvatanud, siis see on ala kus võiks rohkem mõelda ja tegutseda.
Ja tänada neid kes sellele teele Sind suunavad Andrus
Ma olen gänkster neegritega elanud eri allilmades ja mitmel maal, eks see ka suts praktilisemaks teinud.
/ Roger18 August 2017 16:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Rahvaluule uurimisega tegeleb folkloristika ehk rahvaluuleteadus.
Eesti sõna folkloor on mugandvorm ingliskeelsest sõnast folklore, mille võttis 1846. aastal kasutusele antikvaar William John Thoms.
Rahvaluule jaguneb
rahvalaul: regivärsiline, lõppriimiline;
rahvajutt: muistend, muinasjutt, naljand, pajatus;
rahvaluule väikeliigid: mõistatus, kõnekäänd, vanasõna.
Rahvaluules ilmneb sünkretism, see tähendab liikide eristumatus: laulmisega kaasneb liikumine või tants, jutustamise puhul on suur tähtsus liigutustel ja näoilmel, jutuga põimuvad laulud, mõistatuste esitamisega seondub uskumusi. Iseseisvaid rahvaluuleteoseid nimetatakse tüüpideks (muinasjututüüp, vanasõnatüüp, tantsutüüp jne). Tüübid avalduvad teisendeina ehk variantidena. Mõnest tüübist on jäädvustatud sadu teisendeid, aga leidub ka tüüpe, millest on kirja pandud ainult üks-kaks teisendit. Mida laialdasemalt rahvaluuleteost tuntakse, seda rohkem erinevad selle teisendid üksteisest. Rahvaluule uurimine tugineb eelkõige teisendite võrdlemisele.
Rahvaluulel on püsiv kunstiväärtus. Kirjaoskamatul rahval asendas see nii kirjandust kui teadust. Rahvaluule on ka kirjanduse läte: paljude rahvaste kirjandus on alguse saanud rahvaluuleteoste avaldamisest või nende liitmisest eeposeks. Tänapäevale on rahvaluule tähtis kirjandusmälestisena rahva noorusajast. Ta viljastab ka nüüdiskirjandust ja tutvustab kui ajaloomälestis kaugeid aegu, sealhulgas sellistki aega, millest muid allikaid pole või on äärmiselt vähe.
20. sajandil on folkloristika huviorbiiti tõusnud ka kaasaegne folkloor, samuti rahvapärimuse kirjalikud ja mittetraditsioonilised vormid (näiteks graffiti ja linnalegendid).
Eesti sõna folkloor on mugandvorm ingliskeelsest sõnast folklore, mille võttis 1846. aastal kasutusele antikvaar William John Thoms.
Rahvaluule jaguneb
rahvalaul: regivärsiline, lõppriimiline;
rahvajutt: muistend, muinasjutt, naljand, pajatus;
rahvaluule väikeliigid: mõistatus, kõnekäänd, vanasõna.
Rahvaluules ilmneb sünkretism, see tähendab liikide eristumatus: laulmisega kaasneb liikumine või tants, jutustamise puhul on suur tähtsus liigutustel ja näoilmel, jutuga põimuvad laulud, mõistatuste esitamisega seondub uskumusi. Iseseisvaid rahvaluuleteoseid nimetatakse tüüpideks (muinasjututüüp, vanasõnatüüp, tantsutüüp jne). Tüübid avalduvad teisendeina ehk variantidena. Mõnest tüübist on jäädvustatud sadu teisendeid, aga leidub ka tüüpe, millest on kirja pandud ainult üks-kaks teisendit. Mida laialdasemalt rahvaluuleteost tuntakse, seda rohkem erinevad selle teisendid üksteisest. Rahvaluule uurimine tugineb eelkõige teisendite võrdlemisele.
Rahvaluulel on püsiv kunstiväärtus. Kirjaoskamatul rahval asendas see nii kirjandust kui teadust. Rahvaluule on ka kirjanduse läte: paljude rahvaste kirjandus on alguse saanud rahvaluuleteoste avaldamisest või nende liitmisest eeposeks. Tänapäevale on rahvaluule tähtis kirjandusmälestisena rahva noorusajast. Ta viljastab ka nüüdiskirjandust ja tutvustab kui ajaloomälestis kaugeid aegu, sealhulgas sellistki aega, millest muid allikaid pole või on äärmiselt vähe.
20. sajandil on folkloristika huviorbiiti tõusnud ka kaasaegne folkloor, samuti rahvapärimuse kirjalikud ja mittetraditsioonilised vormid (näiteks graffiti ja linnalegendid).
18 August 2017 16:21
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Karpenko's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Andrus Karpenko Tubli, See juba arendab ja toob tolku18 August 2017 16:21
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Karpenko's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Nu näed, täeisti teemast mööda, ma pole üldse rääkinud siin tulistamisest ja seostest, pole üldse seda mõelnud.
Ma ütlesin et ARENDA mingit teemat mitte ära küsi veel jaburaid küsimusi otsa ehk ära niisama vahuta nagu liberaal.
Mis Su toetus siia loeb?
Mis kasu on toetajatest kes ei suuda lihtsat vestlust ega teematki arendada ja paneb põhi rõhu mölisemisele?
Küsisin, mida siin Sassi aeti ?
Kuid jah, mis ma sinuga praegu ikka räägin, vast kunagi hiljem, kui veel kasvanud oleme.18 August 2017 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Saidile on koondatud veebiväljaanne „1001 lastemängu aastast 1935“ ning erinevaid Eesti Rahvaluule Arhiivi väljaantud lastemängude teemalisi väljaandeid.
Loodame lugejatele pakkuda nii uute mängude leidmisrõõmu kui heameelt vanade mängude taasavastamisest. Muhedat mängimist!
http://folklore.ee/ukauka/arhiiv/items/browse
http://folklore.ee/ukauka/arhiiv/collections/show/2
Loodame lugejatele pakkuda nii uute mängude leidmisrõõmu kui heameelt vanade mängude taasavastamisest. Muhedat mängimist!
http://folklore.ee/ukauka/arhiiv/items/browse
http://folklore.ee/ukauka/arhiiv/collections/show/2
http://folklore.ee/ukauka/arhiiv/items/browse
18 August 2017 16:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lastemänge on peetud folkloori osaks, kus eriti selgelt kohtuvad vana ja uus, uuendusmeelsus ja konservatiivsus. Lapsed kordavad ja imiteerivad eelmistelt põlvkondadelt õpitud mänge, samas võtavad rõõmuga üle uusi, veel tundmatuid mänge või mõtlevad neid lihtsalt välja.
Lastefolkloori on Eesti Rahvaluule Arhiivis kogutud selle asutamisest saadik. Sageli kirjutasid lastemänge üles täiskasvanud. Selgemalt olid lastele suunatud lastemängude kogumisvõistlus 1934.–1935. aastal, aga ka Walter Andersoni juhitud lastelaulude kogumine 1920.-1930. aastatel. Plaanipäraselt hakati lastemängudele tähelepanu pöörama 1970. aastatel, rohkelt kirjutasid lapsed oma mänge üles aga 1992. ja 2007. aastate laste- ja noortefolkloori kogumisvõistluste käigus.
Saidi eesmärgiks on koondada ning tuua lugejate ette arhiivis leiduvaid mängukirjeldusi. Samas ootame ka lugejatelt tagasisidet ning pakume võimalust jäädvustada oma mänguelamus kogumismooduli Kratt kaudu.
http://kratt.folklore.ee/ctrl/et/Kysitluskavad/andmed/4
Lastefolkloori on Eesti Rahvaluule Arhiivis kogutud selle asutamisest saadik. Sageli kirjutasid lastemänge üles täiskasvanud. Selgemalt olid lastele suunatud lastemängude kogumisvõistlus 1934.–1935. aastal, aga ka Walter Andersoni juhitud lastelaulude kogumine 1920.-1930. aastatel. Plaanipäraselt hakati lastemängudele tähelepanu pöörama 1970. aastatel, rohkelt kirjutasid lapsed oma mänge üles aga 1992. ja 2007. aastate laste- ja noortefolkloori kogumisvõistluste käigus.
Saidi eesmärgiks on koondada ning tuua lugejate ette arhiivis leiduvaid mängukirjeldusi. Samas ootame ka lugejatelt tagasisidet ning pakume võimalust jäädvustada oma mänguelamus kogumismooduli Kratt kaudu.
http://kratt.folklore.ee/ctrl/et/Kysitluskavad/andmed/4
http://kratt.folklore.ee/ctrl/et/Kysitluskavad/andmed/4
18 August 2017 16:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1462460944025306/permalink/1955864694684926/
18 August 2017 15:59
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Karpenko's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Andrus Karpenko andsin ette ja endiselt, ei tule Sinult vastust ?
Asjade arutamiseks ja edasi viimiseks.
Vaata, mina magan sõjaväe magamiskotis, looduses, mul poel veel saunaluksust
Kuid ikkagi, lisa paar väärtust, mida julged arvata mis suunas ja mis on need asjad mis läksid sassi, paranda need mu vead , too nad välja18 August 2017 15:54
Margus Meigo replied to Edgar Viigimäe's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Vihjena võib veel öelda, et näiteks SELLINE teema siin,
koheselt süsteemil on pidevalt 5+ postitust allpool, isegi kui viimase kommentaari koheselt teed, näitab endiselt alati muid postitusi eespool.
(mitu korda järjest seda kontrollinud)
See võiks juba mõtlema panna.
Sest ega Meie seda siin grupis sedasi ju reguleerida ei saa, aga selline pehme censuur on väga effektiivne, sest mida ei märgata, sellel pole ka tuld.
Kuid nagu ma ütlesin, need teemad peaksime teise gruppi viima kui just reaalne soov, seda EKRE kampaaniga seostada, siis võiks keegi julge selles osas eduka, asjaliku postituse teha18 August 2017 15:50
Margus Meigo replied to Edgar Viigimäe's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Eeri Luik Minu arvamus ei muuda selliste asjade struktuuri lõpuni,
See siin osade Viljandi noortega sai selgeks arutatud, kui reaalne soov on ja huvi, saame kokku ja siis saab läbi vaadatud.
Selliste teemade osas, saab arutada taolistes gruppides
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2205176794/
Lihtne vastus on : Roheline ja Jumalale meelepärane
(ma tegelen süva vaimumaailmadega, rännanud kohtades ja maailma laborites mida siin praegu veel ei oska sedasi sõnastada, et sellest reaalset kasu oleks)18 August 2017 15:41
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Karpenko's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
ehk enne kui kommenteerima tulid, võiksid ju natuke vaadata, läbi sirvida, siis oleks aimu ka.
Kuid anname teema ette siis, lihtsaima.
Kas toetad selliste plähmerdise slooganitega plakateid, kus plakatil olija ise pärast vabandab oma enda valimiskampaania plakati eest.
Või arvad, et inimene ikka peaks läbi vaatama ja uskuma, toetama ise enda plakateid, sest need on mõtestatud ja tõepäraselt planeeritud selliselt, et Eestlusele vajalikud oleks
(ehk: matriarhaatne, emajärgne, aitaks mõista meie olulisust ja kuidas seda säilitada mida vaja, loodusepoolsus, vanemate austus, vanainimeste austus, tervislik toitumine ja eluviis, uurimismeeleline ja teadmishimuline aju, lahenduse poole arutlev ja vaimne inimene, talukultuuri arendamine jms (viimase lisasin juurde, et ei tekiks arutuid küsimusi, mis on Eestimeelsus) ).18 August 2017 15:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
vs. Operatsioon R
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q19oW_CQWtI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q19oW_CQWtI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q19oW_CQWtI
18 August 2017 15:31
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Karpenko's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
rääägi teemast ka mitte ära niisama vahuta siin18 August 2017 15:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
et kui Nuudi andmiseks läheb....
ja siis need kaatrid kes paarutavad ja jetid, siin veepeal, seadusevabalt (kuigi 15 kilomeetrit tunnis peaks maksimum olema)
et nendega ka kohalikud kimbus,
kalamehed eriti turris, viimne kui üks kellega rääkinud18 August 2017 15:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
oleks pidanud kõrvust kinni hoidma seni, kuni nende vanemad välja tulevad kuskilt ja siis noodele nüpli andma, et sellised lapsed endal tänavale üldse lasksid,
kuid samas ega need siin venelased olegi, kes klaas pudeleid ühe Maailma hinnalise rikkumatta vaate juures puruks peksavad,
koristanud ise mitu päeva ja siis siin kohalikud teavad rääkida, et see tavaline, ja et nad ei julge midagi öelda, et saavad äkki peksa,
et lihtsalt pärast suure kotiga korjavad kokku jälle ja...
ma ise siin siin pundi juurest pundi juurde käin ja uurinud et mis nad siin teevad ja mida mõtlevad, enamasti ikka paar inimest pundis neil kes aru saab jutust ja kuulavad ka isegi ja ehk kuulda võtnud, sest paar päeva oli puhkust...
kuid osad veel kimavad kiriku puutreppidest ratastega ja ropendavad avalikult jõlkudes kohtades mis halba varju annab kogu meie kultuurile18 August 2017 15:26
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Viljandi vahel ka, suurelt siin autokapoti peal venelipud ja lossipargis väga palju vene turiste on hakanud liikuma see aasta,
Huvitav kes ja miks seda kohta siin sedasi välja reklaamis neile
Ja ülbed ka siin osad, hüüad, et peatuks ja siis meelega demostratiivselt kõnnivad edasi.
Pärimusmuusika aida ees, mingid vene kutsikad, tatistasid ja läbustasid, läksin siis uurima mis nad siin maal teevad ja mida aru saavad, ja siis üks vaatab otsa mulle siira julgusega ja ütleb, kui küsisin, et mis maal ta on, ütles et Venemaal18 August 2017 15:22
Margus Meigo replied to Uku Praks's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
ja õige olemisega18 August 2017 15:09
Margus Meigo replied to Uku Praks's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Slooganil pole viga, kui see oleks reaalselt tagatud ka tegudega18 August 2017 15:09
Margus Meigo replied to Heli-Mai Arras's comment.
Group: Kristlased
(näiteks loe ka seda postitust, Einar Laiganaga seotud osa: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1462460944025306/permalink/1955864694684926/ )18 August 2017 15:06
Margus Meigo replied to Heli-Mai Arras's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Täiesti nõus18 August 2017 15:06
Margus Meigo replied to Edgar Viigimäe's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Viljandis on VÄGA popp teema veel see, kas maa on Lame või Ümar (noorte hulgas),
seda suure tõenäosusega lõpuks küsitakse avalikult mõnel kohtamisel, olge ettevalmistanud
Kuid eks see lameda maa asi üldse, nüüd hoogu saanud igalpool.
Shamaanina ma muidugi lisaasju näinud, ja see lameda maa asi mind ei häiri... on veel palju rohkem18 August 2017 15:04
Margus Meigo replied to Edgar Viigimäe's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
(täis Eestlasest ühepävaga täis kommunisti tegid mingite ainte ja hüpnoosiga, oma perest teada lood meil, mitte kuulujutud' )18 August 2017 15:02
Margus Meigo replied to Edgar Viigimäe's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kui me seda ei tee, siis peab mingi põhjuse leidma suurjõudude seas, miksm eid alles vaja hoida,
mida me siis ärpleme ja mis jõudude vastu me siis õigupoolest võitleme,
ega ometi ateislikult me arva, et KÕIK erakonnad poleks äärmiselt sügavalt mõjutatud, Nende soovidest, kes maailma siin ammu reguleerinud.
Kui räägime kaakidest, kellele nuuti anname, siis millised kaagid, kuidas ära tunda inimesed ja kuidas ära tunda vaimuväärakad või meievaimu vaenlased,
Venemaa koolid riiklikud ammu olemas, energeetika instituudid jne kes õpetavad inimestele kunste, kuidas oma mõttemaailmaga, oma peaga, teiste mõtteid ära muuta ainuüksi nendega samas ruumis olles, ilma, et peaks sõnagi lausuma,
Need asjad ikka riiklikul tasemel peaks oelma huviobjektisd ja Välisluureamet / Teabeamet'iga kooskõlastatud, et keda nad teavad kus koolitustel käimas ja mis on kellegi pikemaajalisem agenda.
Ka Keskerakond, Edgar Savisaar'e meeskond, ja selle tagaolevad jõud, soovib oma osa saada abist tagasi mida EKREle andnud.
Siis kui töö tehtud mida nad plaaninud, ...kuid kuna protokollid ja koostöölepped salajased, siis ega me seda ainult aimata saame, mida kahepeaga röövlinnu logoga Rooma Impeeriumi (pederasti greeka koltuuri/ühiskonna loojad, tulnarid) riigid siin meilt nõudma hakkavad.
Parem on avalikud olla meil nende asjadega, et ennast turvaliselt tunda, on tehnoloogiaid palju , mis ööpäevaga suure hulga inimeste meeli ja vaateid muuta saavad,
algelised tehnoloogiad juba Tartu Hallis majas veneajal olid, mis üksikisikul ühe päevaga töö tegid18 August 2017 15:01
Margus Meigo replied to Edgar Viigimäe's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Nu jah, aga Jumala kummardamisega ikka tegeleme ja Eestluse.
Kuid millal avalikult nendes asjades rääkima hakkame, et reaalselt oma julgust tõele näidata.
Kui mitmed mõttetargad julgevad neid asju arutada EKREga ja EKRE sees ?
Arusaadav, kui PÄRISELT mõista, nende asjade olemust, siis võiksime üksteise, erakondade süüdistamise lõpetada, Eestis, ja uurima hakata kes mis süvajõududega kooskõlas on, kes kellele allub,
eks Eesti Anu-Näkkidel ka omad vastased.. ja peame ennast liinile viima kellega koos oleme ja kuidas.
Lipsud eemaldama ja sildid, reklaamid palju suuremaks ja tõsisemaks tegema, Eesti on ikkagi minu silmis maailma Esimaa,
kes saab Tulevikus ette kirjutama planeedile, kuidas on õige ja miks18 August 2017 14:53
Margus Meigo replied to Edgar Viigimäe's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Miks EKRE nendes asjades avalikult ei peaks rääkima?
Kui tegeleme tõe ja autoriteediga
Muidugi senikaua kui orjalipse kanname on rakse, siin reaalselt loota julgusele ja rhvameelsusele, kuid küll see iidne päris Eestimeelsus ja vaimsus ka esile tuleb koos reaalse shamanismiga, et enda vaimuväärtus viia tasemeteni, et oleksime väälislised suhtlema olenditega, kellest Einar palju rääkinud
(see algus, siis siin raadiolainete osas saame vihje https://youtu.be/dFj8VvEe9to?t=192 )https://youtu.be/dFj8VvEe9to?t=192
18 August 2017 14:46
Margus Meigo replied to Edgar Viigimäe's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Räägi siis, mis siin vaimuvaeset oli ja mis raamid siin on,
Mina olin praegu see kes just VAIMU poolselt rääkis ja RAAMIDEST väljas, ja siis keerad selle tagurpidi, süüdistad nagu kommunist ilma selgitamata mida ja miks,
Räägi nüüd mehe moodi, kuidas siis on nende asjadega?
Kas Sa veendunud, et Einar teeb selles osas nalja või peenelt informeerib Vene-Ameerika-Vatikani uut tulnuka usupropakandat mida nad plaanivad võlts tulnuka invasiooniga pealetulles, laevadega mida maaall valmistavad ja laborites kus uusi olendeid loovad, .
et ta ise siis ei usu sedasi, ja on ikkagi Piibli tavapärases prinsiibis, või ikkagi ta prohvetina, selgitab, et see Aadama-Eeva õuna asi, oligi nende samade asjade asi mida me tulnukateks kutsume ?
https://youtu.be/jfQx4jC5xz4?t=1233https://youtu.be/jfQx4jC5xz4?t=1233
18 August 2017 14:42
Margus Meigo replied to Heli-Mai Arras's comment.
Group: Kristlased
pole veel kloostrit näinud mille sees olevad inimesed poleks väga mõjutatud kloostri olemusest.
Niisama nad sääl ei chilli igayks suvalt oma moodi18 August 2017 14:36
Margus Meigo replied to Heli-Mai Arras's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Nu eraldumine väärast, Jumala jaoks,
Puhta jumla hääle kuulmiseks, selleks peab aga palju asju paigas ka olema kui sõna klooster juba suhu võtta.
ega siis iga eraldumine pole klooster,
Mina soovitaks nende mõõtude järgi teha, nagu piiblis kirjeldatud on, jumalakoja ehitamiseks..
ja mitte kasutada rüvetatud, lõhutud kive18 August 2017 14:35
Margus Meigo replied to Edgar Viigimäe's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Edgar Sa muidu ka usud tulnukaid ja Annunakke kes meid loosid nagu Einar Laigna ?
Et ehk EKRE peaks need suunad võtma, et ajaka kaasas olla ?
Või ajab Einar loba..
Kui tõde, siis SELLISEL tasemel tõdedega peaks ju tegelema18 August 2017 14:32
Margus Meigo replied to Edgar Viigimäe's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
häda moodi see nägu oli mis talle valiti sinna plakatile,
vaevalt, et ta ise selle valis, see nagu antireklaamina mõjub,
Nii olulised asjad tuleb ikka läbi mõelda, ja õigemeelselt paika panna, muidu üks rikub mainet siit natuke, teine säält ja lõpuks polegi mingit suurt austust järgi enam mis iseennast edasi kannaks tõsimeelselt18 August 2017 14:30
Margus Meigo replied to Heli-Mai Arras's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Soovitan ikka kasvõi tugevalt psühedeelseid jumalameelseid taimi / seeni võtta, kuni visioon tuleb tugev ja kindlalt jumalameelne,
sest muidu tuleb välja miskit mis läheb põhiprinsiibist mööda,
Nii olulise asjaga kui teiste elude mõjutamisega tegelemisel, peab ikka olema tugev oluline tunne, mulle tundub,
Või kutsu ümber mõned targemad usumehed ja kohalikud mehed ja las nad mõtestavad, et välja tuleks see mida vaja.18 August 2017 14:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
Meelis Vesi õppimine teeb targaks mitte targutamine ja välja vabandamine.
Kuid kui see on õppimine, siis tänud vastu võetud ja suundun edasi.
Tarkus tarviline vara18 August 2017 14:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kas mehed ise oma reklaame siis läbi ei vaata millele alla kirjutavad ja kuhu oma näoe kleebivad?
Nii ükskõik või mis see põhjus oli, et pärast vabandas ja ütles, et on kohatu.
Kui kindel olla siis ikka kindel ja öelda miks on hea ja õige see asi, et miks ISE mees arvas, et ta sedasi sobib (nu see pilt mis juurde valiti reklaamile, tundus ka nagu antireklaam, eriti kuuldes kohalike kommentaare siin viimaste päevade jooksul, Olen ise Viljandis praegu)18 August 2017 14:22
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
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emotsioonide tekitamisele siin ühiskonnas pannakse rõhku, emotsioonid on ajulised, tunded südamest18 August 2017 13:55
Margus Meigo replied to Heli-Mai Arras's comment.
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et siis saaks need värvid ka paika ja materialid ja... õnnistused ja vaimusuuna.. sest esimene nurgakivi ikka suurima õnnistuse ja Jumalasõnaka koos paigas olema peab, et kogu koda toodaks mida Loojale vaja18 August 2017 13:54
Margus Meigo replied to Heli-Mai Arras's comment.
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Kuid mis koda see siis on mida ehitad, ja vaim Naiseni viis, kas miski koda, mis Naiste riiakust meestel mõista aitab ja meeste meeli harib Jumalameelsemaks, et nad enda nurki, liivasi sedasi pehmendatud saaks, et Naisehinge ei kraabiks ?18 August 2017 13:53
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eks ta nii ja naa:
http://piibel.net/?q=%C3%95p+21:1-21#q=%C3%95p%2021:1-21
"9 Parem on elada katusenurgas
kui riiaka naisega ühises kojas. "
ja
"15 Katuse alaline läbitilkumine saju ajal
ja riiakas naine on ühesugused:
16 teda varjata on otsekui varjaks tuult
või kahmaks õli oma parema käega."
http://www.piibel.net/p.net?q=%C3%95p+27http://piibel.net/?q=%C3%95p+21%3A1-21#q=%C3%95p%2021:1-21
18 August 2017 13:51
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
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ja tundelisus / südamlikus18 August 2017 13:49
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
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Nu jah, emotsioonid emotsioonideks, peaasi, et Tunded on18 August 2017 13:48
Margus Meigo replied to Heli-Mai Arras's comment.
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Õpetussõnades jah,
Kuid see katus puhas metafoor oli muidugi
Vihmakäest räästa alla oli see mõte sääl ühest suunast ja teisest, et hingele kasulikum, vihmakäes istuda kui oma vaimu lasta närida end vastuolulisele allasurutult kannatades vales koosluses olles18 August 2017 13:48
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tagantjärgi targutamisega targemaks ei saa18 August 2017 13:46
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
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Et siis emotsiooni vaba klooster,
terved linnaosad selles modernses surnud elutu ja emotsioonitu kivipuru vaimus ehitatud,
proovi ikka Jumala suunaline, tundeline, eluline, looduslik, õrn ja kui õige, siis jääv niikauaks kui tarvis selleks milleks tarvis18 August 2017 13:45
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Ega ma väga huumorina seda mõelnutki18 August 2017 13:43
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Liiv's comment.
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Kuid usk peab õige olema jah,
habemekasv üks olulisemaid olulisi aspekte Õigeusus,
ja naisteaustus ja tagasihoidlikus, kuid osad asjad...
tegevusetus ja... vale muutmise kartus ...
ikka jah... vaja siin aktiivsust.18 August 2017 13:43
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Õigeusu inimene siin Viljanidis, ei teadnud, et neil röövlind, Rooma sõjaväe impeeriumi (kristlaste vastaste) logo, vene riigi vapp suurelt kiriku keskseks sümboolikaks on põrandale pandud
ja ei toetanud ta ka ideed, et see lollus sellest kohast välja puhastada .
Lisaks ei teadnud ka shamanismi olulisi, Jumala tajumise ja hingemaailma korrastamise taimi ega... algtõdesi, ja nu jah...18 August 2017 13:41
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Lüüakse ikka kui ebasobivaid asju küsitakse18 August 2017 13:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui Jüri Ratas on pundist targeim, kes teisi korrale ja mõistusele kutsub, siis on ikka küll tase saavutatud..
õiged sõnad muidugi:
""Mulle teeb väga muret suundumus, mille kohaselt muutuvad labased ja isiklikud rünnakud oma poliitiliste oponentide suhtes sotsiaalmeedias üha tavapärasemaks. Minu hinnangul ei sobi selline teguviis kokku hea ja väärika arutelukultuuriga, mille poole peaksime püüdlema. Me ei tohi sellist käitumist vaikides kõrvalt vaadata või suisa takka kiita," toonitas ta.
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/jaak-madison-ja-jurgen-ligi-andsid-jevgeni-ossinovski-pihta-tuld-korda-asus-majja-looma-peaminister-juri-ratas?id=78535977
Ja ossinovskil, on vähemalt rohkem habet ees
õiged sõnad muidugi:
""Mulle teeb väga muret suundumus, mille kohaselt muutuvad labased ja isiklikud rünnakud oma poliitiliste oponentide suhtes sotsiaalmeedias üha tavapärasemaks. Minu hinnangul ei sobi selline teguviis kokku hea ja väärika arutelukultuuriga, mille poole peaksime püüdlema. Me ei tohi sellist käitumist vaikides kõrvalt vaadata või suisa takka kiita," toonitas ta.
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/jaak-madison-ja-jurgen-ligi-andsid-jevgeni-ossinovski-pihta-tuld-korda-asus-majja-looma-peaminister-juri-ratas?id=78535977
Ja ossinovskil, on vähemalt rohkem habet ees
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/jaak-madison-ja-jurgen-ligi-andsid-jevgeni-ossinovski-pihta-tuld-korda-asus-majja-looma-peaminister-juri-ratas?id=78535977
18 August 2017 13:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Madisoni ütles mõni minut enne südapäeva, et reklaam sattus Paalalinna kooli ette juhuslikult, kuid et Viljandis on vähe kohti, kus välireklaami üles panna, ei hakata seda sealt ka maha võtma. "
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Nii nagu paljudes Viljandi bussiootepaviljonides, pandi ka Paalalinna kooli ees asuvas peatuses üleeile üles EKRE ridades Viljandi linnapeaks pürgiva Jaak Madisoni näoga reklaam suure hüüdlausega "Anname tuld!" Et Paalalinna koolis laskis õpilane kolme aasta eest maha õpetaja, tundub see paljudele aga kohatu.
Eesti konservatiivse rahvaerakonna Viljandi- ja Järvamaalt valitud esindajana riigikokku kuuluva Jaak Madisoni sõnul on kampaania üle-eestiline ning kujundist "Anname tuld!" ei maksa välja lugeda viiteid tulistamisele või põlema panemisele.
"Me anname tuld korruptsioonile, bürokraatiale ja valetamisele," selgitas ta.
Esmaspäeval Paalalinna kooli ette pandud EKRE valimisreklaam seostub seal 2014. aasta oktoobris toimunud tulistamisega. / ELMO RIIG
Madisoni ütles mõni minut enne südapäeva, et reklaam sattus Paalalinna kooli ette juhuslikult, kuid et Viljandis on vähe kohti, kus välireklaami üles panna, ei hakata seda sealt ka maha võtma. Vähem kui tund hiljem helistas poliitik siiski Sakalale tagasi ja andis teada, et reklaam vahetatakse välja.
"Kampaaniasõnum ei ole küll sellisena mõeldud, aga mõistame, et see võib kooli personali riivata," selgitas Madison. "Ei ole mõtet teha tühjast tüli."
"See on küll väga vale koht sellise reklaami jaoks," nentis Paalalinna kooli direktor Aavo Palo. Puhkuse tõttu pole Palo mõnda aega ise Viljandis olnud ning kuulis seetõttu ka kõnealusest reklaamist alles Sakala käest.
Palo tõdes, et kindlasti ei ole traagilise seose tekitamine EKRE poolt tahtlik, kuid koolipere on tulistamisest saadik väga sõnatundlik ja sarnased seosed tuletavad juhtunut väga valusalt meelde.
Esmaspäeval Paalalinna kooli ette pandud EKRE valimisreklaam seostub seal 2014. aasta oktoobris toimunud tulistamisega. / ELMO RIIG
Paalalinna kooli tragöödia ledis aset 2014. aasta 27. oktoobril veidi enne kella 14, kui toona 15-aastane poiss tulistas surnuks saksa keele õpetaja Ene Sarapi. Tulistaja oli Paalalinna kooli 9. klassi õpilane ning veretöö ajal viibis klassiruumis peale õpetaja veel neli inimest.
Loo eelmises versioonis oli teises lõigus viga erakonna nimes. Parandatud kell 16.36. Uudise autor Hans Väre palub vabandust.
http://sakala.postimees.ee/4212389/ekre-reklaam-lubab-koolitulistamise-ule-elanud-kooli-ees-tuld-anda
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Nii nagu paljudes Viljandi bussiootepaviljonides, pandi ka Paalalinna kooli ees asuvas peatuses üleeile üles EKRE ridades Viljandi linnapeaks pürgiva Jaak Madisoni näoga reklaam suure hüüdlausega "Anname tuld!" Et Paalalinna koolis laskis õpilane kolme aasta eest maha õpetaja, tundub see paljudele aga kohatu.
Eesti konservatiivse rahvaerakonna Viljandi- ja Järvamaalt valitud esindajana riigikokku kuuluva Jaak Madisoni sõnul on kampaania üle-eestiline ning kujundist "Anname tuld!" ei maksa välja lugeda viiteid tulistamisele või põlema panemisele.
"Me anname tuld korruptsioonile, bürokraatiale ja valetamisele," selgitas ta.
Esmaspäeval Paalalinna kooli ette pandud EKRE valimisreklaam seostub seal 2014. aasta oktoobris toimunud tulistamisega. / ELMO RIIG
Madisoni ütles mõni minut enne südapäeva, et reklaam sattus Paalalinna kooli ette juhuslikult, kuid et Viljandis on vähe kohti, kus välireklaami üles panna, ei hakata seda sealt ka maha võtma. Vähem kui tund hiljem helistas poliitik siiski Sakalale tagasi ja andis teada, et reklaam vahetatakse välja.
"Kampaaniasõnum ei ole küll sellisena mõeldud, aga mõistame, et see võib kooli personali riivata," selgitas Madison. "Ei ole mõtet teha tühjast tüli."
"See on küll väga vale koht sellise reklaami jaoks," nentis Paalalinna kooli direktor Aavo Palo. Puhkuse tõttu pole Palo mõnda aega ise Viljandis olnud ning kuulis seetõttu ka kõnealusest reklaamist alles Sakala käest.
Palo tõdes, et kindlasti ei ole traagilise seose tekitamine EKRE poolt tahtlik, kuid koolipere on tulistamisest saadik väga sõnatundlik ja sarnased seosed tuletavad juhtunut väga valusalt meelde.
Esmaspäeval Paalalinna kooli ette pandud EKRE valimisreklaam seostub seal 2014. aasta oktoobris toimunud tulistamisega. / ELMO RIIG
Paalalinna kooli tragöödia ledis aset 2014. aasta 27. oktoobril veidi enne kella 14, kui toona 15-aastane poiss tulistas surnuks saksa keele õpetaja Ene Sarapi. Tulistaja oli Paalalinna kooli 9. klassi õpilane ning veretöö ajal viibis klassiruumis peale õpetaja veel neli inimest.
Loo eelmises versioonis oli teises lõigus viga erakonna nimes. Parandatud kell 16.36. Uudise autor Hans Väre palub vabandust.
http://sakala.postimees.ee/4212389/ekre-reklaam-lubab-koolitulistamise-ule-elanud-kooli-ees-tuld-anda
http://sakala.postimees.ee/4212389/ekre-reklaam-lubab-koolitulistamise-ule-elanud-kooli-ees-tuld-anda
18 August 2017 13:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Meelis Vesi ei ma aitan Sul oma mõrasi näha, seni kuni reaalne ehitus spetalist (kelle kontaktid said antud, terve grupp ja profiil.. ) Su välja aitab,
eriti suht kohatu postitusega küsima tulal siia katuse osas, enne selgitamatta mille jaoks ja mida ehitama hakkad.
Selle nimi on haridus mida ma teen, et sa teistkorda ennast viisakamalt, asjakohalisemalt saaksid väljendada ja targem olla.
Kuid jah. proovi nüüd nendelt ehitus meestelt, ehitusfoorumistest küsida , mis jandid siin
www.ehitusfoorum.com/
www.ehitus.ee/et/forum/
https://www.vennad.ee/
ehitusfoorum.ehitusinfo.ee/
www.majaehitaja.ee/ehitusfoorum/
peaks piisama alustusekshttp://www.ehitusfoorum.com/
18 August 2017 13:27
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
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See juba meeldiv kuulda,
oleneb kui sügava esoteerika ja pühadusega tegelema hakkad, siis vastavalt sellele ka värvid,
värvidel on oluline emotsionaalne side enamuste inimestega, keksendu sellele.
Siis uuri veel vaimseid värvide tähendusi.. kuid eelkõige, vaata, et metsasees, eriti ülearu silma ei torkaks (nagu ma alguses läbi vaimu ütlesin juba, roheline ja pruun... kuigi pruun pole vaimselt väga ergastav värv..)
Mul koolivend teeb õlgkatuseid , pane parem see18 August 2017 13:24
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Ülikoolitarkus, ega sellevastu saa...18 August 2017 13:21
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Oi tõesti,. ega sa ei tea kas sinine värv teeb asja tugevamaks kui roheline ja kas kollane on hapram kui roosa värv?18 August 2017 13:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// Täna oli veel linnas alles see äbariku näoga totter plakat, mine krt võta kruvikeeraja kätta ja võta ise maha see, tee 10 minutit tööd, pintsaku***
Eesti Konservatiivse Rahvaerakonna aseesimees, Viljandi esinumber Jaak Madison nendib, et tema valimisplakat mõjub Viljandi Paalalinna gümnaasiumi ees kohatuna.
Jaak Madison ütles Delfile, et otsus plakat eemaldada sündis erakonnasisese arutluse tulemusena. "Meie kampaania sõnul on see, et ma anname tuld korruptsioonile, onupojapoliitikale ja valetamisele, kuid samas ilmselgelt on ka sellel hukkunud õpetajal omad lähedased, kaasõpilased ja koolipersonal, keda see kahtlemata võib riivata ja inimlikult võttes on ka neist aru saada. Seega on ilmselgelt parem jõuda kokkuleppele ja olla kaastundlikum," ütles ta.
Reklaam
Madisoni kinnitusel vahetatakse plakat homme hommikul teise EKRE poliitreklaami vastu välja. "Nii pea, kui uus plakat trükist tuleb, läheb see asemele. Tuleb teise loosungiga reklaam," rääkis ta.
"Ma vabandan siiralt koolipere ja tapetud õpetaja lähedaste ees. Meie sõnumi mõte on kahtlemata midagi muud kui üleskutse inimese pihta tuld anda, aga annan endale aru, et Paalalinna gümnaasiumi ees mõjub „Anname tuld!“ kahtlemata sobimatult," kinnitab Madison
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/jaak-madison-vabandab-ja-lubab-ebaviisaka-plakati-homme-valja-vahetada?id=79203828
Eesti Konservatiivse Rahvaerakonna aseesimees, Viljandi esinumber Jaak Madison nendib, et tema valimisplakat mõjub Viljandi Paalalinna gümnaasiumi ees kohatuna.
Jaak Madison ütles Delfile, et otsus plakat eemaldada sündis erakonnasisese arutluse tulemusena. "Meie kampaania sõnul on see, et ma anname tuld korruptsioonile, onupojapoliitikale ja valetamisele, kuid samas ilmselgelt on ka sellel hukkunud õpetajal omad lähedased, kaasõpilased ja koolipersonal, keda see kahtlemata võib riivata ja inimlikult võttes on ka neist aru saada. Seega on ilmselgelt parem jõuda kokkuleppele ja olla kaastundlikum," ütles ta.
Reklaam
Madisoni kinnitusel vahetatakse plakat homme hommikul teise EKRE poliitreklaami vastu välja. "Nii pea, kui uus plakat trükist tuleb, läheb see asemele. Tuleb teise loosungiga reklaam," rääkis ta.
"Ma vabandan siiralt koolipere ja tapetud õpetaja lähedaste ees. Meie sõnumi mõte on kahtlemata midagi muud kui üleskutse inimese pihta tuld anda, aga annan endale aru, et Paalalinna gümnaasiumi ees mõjub „Anname tuld!“ kahtlemata sobimatult," kinnitab Madison
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/jaak-madison-vabandab-ja-lubab-ebaviisaka-plakati-homme-valja-vahetada?id=79203828
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/jaak-madison-vabandab-ja-lubab-ebaviisaka-plakati-homme-valja-vahetada?id=79203828
18 August 2017 13:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// Anname ka v? Vaat, et ise varsti ei saa
" Reklaamagentuuri Rakett loovjuhi Asko Künnapi sõnul oli EKRE "Anname tuld" reklaam koolitulistamise läbi elanud Viljandi Paalalinna kooli juures sobimatu, kuid midagi seadusevastast seal siiski polnud.
"Pehmelt öeldes sobimatu koht, jah," kommenteeris Künnap. "Ebaviisakas."
Künnap arvab, et ilmselt polnud selline kohavalik tahtlik. "Lihtsalt oleks võinud enne sellise asja peale mõelda," räägib ta.
Reklaamiseadusega vastuollu EKRE reklaamplakat Künnapi kinnitusel ei lähe. "Avalikus kohas ostetud reklaampind. Seadusega on kõik kooskõlas, aga lihtsalt maitsetu," sõnas ta.
Reklaam
"Anname tuld võib ju slängis tähendada vajuta gaasipedaali või hakkame minema," kirjeldab ta. "See ei ole üheselt mõistetav, et see tuli tähendaks just tulistamist. Antud juhul aga see asukoht, ma saan aru, et see vihastas inimesi ja see on sobimatu küll."
" Reklaamagentuuri Rakett loovjuhi Asko Künnapi sõnul oli EKRE "Anname tuld" reklaam koolitulistamise läbi elanud Viljandi Paalalinna kooli juures sobimatu, kuid midagi seadusevastast seal siiski polnud.
"Pehmelt öeldes sobimatu koht, jah," kommenteeris Künnap. "Ebaviisakas."
Künnap arvab, et ilmselt polnud selline kohavalik tahtlik. "Lihtsalt oleks võinud enne sellise asja peale mõelda," räägib ta.
Reklaamiseadusega vastuollu EKRE reklaamplakat Künnapi kinnitusel ei lähe. "Avalikus kohas ostetud reklaampind. Seadusega on kõik kooskõlas, aga lihtsalt maitsetu," sõnas ta.
Reklaam
"Anname tuld võib ju slängis tähendada vajuta gaasipedaali või hakkame minema," kirjeldab ta. "See ei ole üheselt mõistetav, et see tuli tähendaks just tulistamist. Antud juhul aga see asukoht, ma saan aru, et see vihastas inimesi ja see on sobimatu küll."
18 August 2017 13:14
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
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Abiks oleks teada muidugi, mille jaosk ehitad, kuhu (füüsiline ja sotsiaalne keskond) ja mis materialidest räägid.
Ja mis on rahakott ja .. nu kas Sa tõsimeeli siin küsisid seda küsimust või see ka üks Su sotsiaalsetest projektidest, uurimustest?18 August 2017 13:07
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või siit https://www.facebook.com/groups/210380725963217
kui Sa just pühakloda ehitama hakkaEHITUS ABINÕU
18 August 2017 13:06
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Oi tõsi ka, irooniakoolis pole vist me käinud,
Mõte oli selles, et ehk peaksid seda küsima
https://www.facebook.com/ehitus.ekspert temalt .. või18 August 2017 13:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Kvaliteet ongi ilus
Ega värv seda kvaliteeti ei muuda kuna sa VÄRVI küsisid mitte materiali, ise ülikooli haridusega. jeerum.
Meelepärasem ongi see mis ütlesin. Mis looduslikumad värvid18 August 2017 13:05
Margus Meigo commented on Paul Smooly's post.
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Jumalat18 August 2017 13:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Pane Roheline või pruun eterniit, siis silmale ilusam, Jumale meelepärasem18 August 2017 13:00
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Mis piiblikohast see täpsemalt on, kas vanast või uuest testamendist ?18 August 2017 12:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
orjastaja köie!
18 August 2017 12:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kõige rohkem ärritavad lipsukandjad kes teiste lipsumeeste kallal ilguvad, neid alla talludes ja ennast esile tuues.. mida sa tood.. kui ise sama lipsuküljes, sama rituaali küljes, sama rooma pederastide ja kommunistide kapitalistlikus orjaköie otsas, rsk
18 August 2017 12:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--i3pwGGabE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--i3pwGGabE
18 August 2017 12:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nii et..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srR8RSlT9lI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srR8RSlT9lI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srR8RSlT9lI
18 August 2017 12:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSQ4dLVUdrU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSQ4dLVUdrU
18 August 2017 12:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFQ4YHU_1bo
18 August 2017 12:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nii et..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYGiJPob-mg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYGiJPob-mg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYGiJPob-mg
18 August 2017 12:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
More serious fallowup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CQnGU6IbKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CQnGU6IbKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CQnGU6IbKM
18 August 2017 11:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYXwOLRiURE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYXwOLRiURE
18 August 2017 11:49
Margus Meigo replied to Bernhard von Ove's comment.
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Bernhard von Ove Vägahea mõte17 August 2017 16:18
Margus Meigo replied to Bernhard von Ove's comment.
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Tallinn nii suur ja lai, kuid suund teada siis.
Oh.. arvasin, et ta ikka maisemas kohas17 August 2017 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sellemehe asjadega balansis hoida
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y15KVdODGsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y15KVdODGsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y15KVdODGsc
17 August 2017 16:01
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's post.
Parem kuulata reaalseid tarku pere ja laste osas,
kes on üles kasvatanud üle 10 ne korraliku lapse koos oma naisega, ühe ja ainsa naisega
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPPmAuoNW5s
kes on üles kasvatanud üle 10 ne korraliku lapse koos oma naisega, ühe ja ainsa naisega
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPPmAuoNW5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPPmAuoNW5s
17 August 2017 15:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu kes selle artikli küll kirjutas:
" 18. Tänapäeva lapsed veedavad ilmselgelt liiga kaua aega ekraanide ees.
Vaata sellele positiivsest küljest. Sa ei pea nendega kaarte, monopoli ega igasugu lauamänge mängima. Tänapäeva ekraane eeldavad mängud nõuavad lastelt enamasti rohkemgi nutikust, kui "Reis ümber maakera" "
ja :
" 8. Lapsed tahavad ja vajavad pidevalt, et teeksid nende peale suuri väljaminekuid.
Lapsed vajavad mitte sinu raha, vaid sinu aega. Nad tahavad sinuga koos asju teha "
ajab nii turri see liberaal kallakuga pseudo keskmiseks inimeste ja laste surumine, et ei hakka kommenteerimagi
" 18. Tänapäeva lapsed veedavad ilmselgelt liiga kaua aega ekraanide ees.
Vaata sellele positiivsest küljest. Sa ei pea nendega kaarte, monopoli ega igasugu lauamänge mängima. Tänapäeva ekraane eeldavad mängud nõuavad lastelt enamasti rohkemgi nutikust, kui "Reis ümber maakera" "
ja :
" 8. Lapsed tahavad ja vajavad pidevalt, et teeksid nende peale suuri väljaminekuid.
Lapsed vajavad mitte sinu raha, vaid sinu aega. Nad tahavad sinuga koos asju teha "
ajab nii turri see liberaal kallakuga pseudo keskmiseks inimeste ja laste surumine, et ei hakka kommenteerimagi
17 August 2017 15:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Seda unustavad ka öelda,et NORMAALSES peres, normaalsed lapsed EI moondu selliseks, kunagi, kui vanem aru saab miks ta siin ilmas on:
"16. Lapsed muutuvad keeruliseks, jämedaks, isekaks ja sõnakuulmatuks siis, kui nad saavad 13 ja seda kutsutakse puberteediks.
Vale. Lapsed muutuvad keeruliseks, jämedaks, isekaks ja sõnakuulmatuks palju varem. "
Sõnakuulmatuks ükski normaalne laps ei muutu, kui on usaldav pere
"16. Lapsed muutuvad keeruliseks, jämedaks, isekaks ja sõnakuulmatuks siis, kui nad saavad 13 ja seda kutsutakse puberteediks.
Vale. Lapsed muutuvad keeruliseks, jämedaks, isekaks ja sõnakuulmatuks palju varem. "
Sõnakuulmatuks ükski normaalne laps ei muutu, kui on usaldav pere
17 August 2017 15:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ka see lause pole päris see...
mis selge oleks ja aitaks:
"12. Kui nad üles kasvavad, oledki neist ilma.
Ei jää sa neist ilma midagi. Aga kulutused kasvavad. "
mis selge oleks ja aitaks:
"12. Kui nad üles kasvavad, oledki neist ilma.
Ei jää sa neist ilma midagi. Aga kulutused kasvavad. "
17 August 2017 15:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eriti ajakohane praeguse aja "armasta ennast kõigepealt" ideoloogia promojatele
(armasta ennast enne, hävitab armastust, see selle viimane aste..)
(armasta ennast enne, hävitab armastust, see selle viimane aste..)
17 August 2017 15:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Once more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6BbL-vqN0c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6BbL-vqN0c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6BbL-vqN0c
17 August 2017 15:49
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's post.
Focus: "Exactly as God made them"
17 August 2017 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's post.
Misajast peale hallid juuksed millegi ebameeldivaga seotud on ?
On ikka maailm...
On ikka maailm...
17 August 2017 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's post.
Lapsel on vaja mõttekaaslast, usaldust, austust, koostööd, abi, armastust, mitte mõttetooli
kuigi teatud pujäänidele hetke, kui seda osata õigesti rakendada, saab ka sellest seemneid tulla... kuid ainult siis kui see holistiliselt kaasatud on täishoolimisse
kuigi teatud pujäänidele hetke, kui seda osata õigesti rakendada, saab ka sellest seemneid tulla... kuid ainult siis kui see holistiliselt kaasatud on täishoolimisse
17 August 2017 15:17
Margus Meigo replied to Dmitry Groz's comment.
yea remeber that one :D:D:D
Can you imagine, tripping on that time :D
No paranoia here
Can you imagine, tripping on that time :D
No paranoia here
17 August 2017 15:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Yeah, lucky i did not get one :D:D:
17 August 2017 15:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
JA hunnik muid punkte veel selles artiklis, üldse kohe ei sobi see reaalsusega, armastusepõhise reaalsusega,
sobib see artikkel aga enesekesksete, perest eemaldunud inimeste jaoks kes üksikuks ja lootusetuks jäävad uskumises, et "ju nii peabki olema" (et mnidagi pole, ei austust, tänu ega hoolt oma lastelt tagasi kui ise vanad ... nihilistliku kallakuga liberaalne, ebajumalapärane artikkel... vabandust)
sobib see artikkel aga enesekesksete, perest eemaldunud inimeste jaoks kes üksikuks ja lootusetuks jäävad uskumises, et "ju nii peabki olema" (et mnidagi pole, ei austust, tänu ega hoolt oma lastelt tagasi kui ise vanad ... nihilistliku kallakuga liberaalne, ebajumalapärane artikkel... vabandust)
17 August 2017 15:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja osad on eriti erilised, eriti kui neil selleks kasvada lastakse
mitte ei vangistata neid keskmiseks,
alati tuleb loota ja uskuda... ja siis see lause veel:
... " 1. Lapsi on lihtne mõista.
Sugugi mitte, enamasti ei saa saa oma täiskasvanu mõistusega aru, miks nad nii käituvad. "
Nu mis assssja, OMA vanemad ei mõista OMA last kui nad oma lapsega REAALSELT on julgenud suhelda ja soovinud aru saada algusest saati oma enesekesksuse asemel??
mitte ei vangistata neid keskmiseks,
alati tuleb loota ja uskuda... ja siis see lause veel:
... " 1. Lapsi on lihtne mõista.
Sugugi mitte, enamasti ei saa saa oma täiskasvanu mõistusega aru, miks nad nii käituvad. "
Nu mis assssja, OMA vanemad ei mõista OMA last kui nad oma lapsega REAALSELT on julgenud suhelda ja soovinud aru saada algusest saati oma enesekesksuse asemel??
17 August 2017 15:11
Margus Meigo replied to Dmitry Groz's comment.
:D
17 August 2017 15:09
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's post.
" 15. Sinu lapsed on erakordselt erilised, andekad ja ilusad.
Statistiliselt ei saa see siiski nii olla. Enamus on keskmised. Aga sa usud ju jätkuvalt, et just sinu laps on erand. "
Urrh!
KESKMISEKS surub see ühsikond meid siin, lapsed pole kunagi keskmised, alati erilised
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3k_QDnzHE&list=RDEMu3C5EqGlUlsP8JGiB10KbA
Statistiliselt ei saa see siiski nii olla. Enamus on keskmised. Aga sa usud ju jätkuvalt, et just sinu laps on erand. "
Urrh!
KESKMISEKS surub see ühsikond meid siin, lapsed pole kunagi keskmised, alati erilised
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3k_QDnzHE&list=RDEMu3C5EqGlUlsP8JGiB10KbA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3k_QDnzHE&list=RDEMu3C5EqGlUlsP8JGiB10KbA
17 August 2017 15:08
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's post.
Kuhu nad selle lausega jõuda soovisid:
13. Lapsed sünnivad kõik headena, maailm on see, mis nad ära rikub.
Ei. Maailma mõju pole nii suur
Saad seda edasi arendada ?
13. Lapsed sünnivad kõik headena, maailm on see, mis nad ära rikub.
Ei. Maailma mõju pole nii suur
Saad seda edasi arendada ?
17 August 2017 15:00
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's post.
Ka lugemist:
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/793947/janek-maggi-kuidas-kasvatada-sogedat-julma-ja-johkrat-last
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/793947/janek-maggi-kuidas-kasvatada-sogedat-julma-ja-johkrat-last
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/793947/janek-maggi-kuidas-kasvatada-sogedat-julma-ja-johkrat-last
17 August 2017 14:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid selliseid uudiseid on palju:
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/eesti/tv3-video-kohilas-leidsid-lapsed-johkralt-tapetud-kassi?id=51125468
Vaimsed iniemsed seda muidugi omamoodi vaatavad..
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/eesti/tv3-video-kohilas-leidsid-lapsed-johkralt-tapetud-kassi?id=51125468
Vaimsed iniemsed seda muidugi omamoodi vaatavad..
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/eesti/tv3-video-kohilas-leidsid-lapsed-johkralt-tapetud-kassi?id=51125468
17 August 2017 14:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"..politsei väikelapse mõrvamises mitut alla 12 aastast last. Rootsi seaduste järgi võib alla 15 aasta vanuseid lapsi küll üle kuulata, kuid neid ei saa kriminaalvastutusele võtta.."
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/valismaa/lapsed-tapsid-lapse?id=50760291
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/valismaa/lapsed-tapsid-lapse?id=50760291
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/valismaa/lapsed-tapsid-lapse?id=50760291
17 August 2017 14:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Välismaa uudiseid ka palju:
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/259485/teismelised-tapsid-7-aastase-tudruku
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/259485/teismelised-tapsid-7-aastase-tudruku
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/259485/teismelised-tapsid-7-aastase-tudruku
17 August 2017 14:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://sakala.postimees.ee/1320676/vaikesed-lapsed-piinasid-johkralt-kajakapoega
http://sakala.postimees.ee/1320676/vaikesed-lapsed-piinasid-johkralt-kajakapoega
17 August 2017 14:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
karistus on aga väga täppis kunst, mida tuleb hoolega ja ainult läbi armastuse rakendada,
ja äärmiselt vajalik, et inimene ei muutuks elu vastaseks.
http://siitsealt.ee/teismelised-piinasid-koera-rangemail-viisil-kuid-ta-jai-elama-ja-armastab-endiselt-inimesi/
ja äärmiselt vajalik, et inimene ei muutuks elu vastaseks.
http://siitsealt.ee/teismelised-piinasid-koera-rangemail-viisil-kuid-ta-jai-elama-ja-armastab-endiselt-inimesi/
http://siitsealt.ee/teismelised-piinasid-koera-rangemail-viisil-kuid-ta-jai-elama-ja-armastab-endiselt-inimesi/
17 August 2017 14:53
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's post.
Karistamatuse tunne tekitab ka ränka kurjust, vanemate vihkamist ja inimese vastaseid kuritegusi
17 August 2017 14:48
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's post.
Mulle ka see tema jutt väga meeldis, kui sellele kunagi sattusin, tõsise taustaga mees ja meeldivalt räägib
17 August 2017 14:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Öelda, et "Jumal on olemas" on ränk hereesia, (suur jumalavastane eksimus)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK_Iqwzrqjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK_Iqwzrqjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK_Iqwzrqjc
17 August 2017 14:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.delfi.ee/teemalehed/einar-laigna
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Hr Laigna rõhutab alati, et oluline on austav suhtumine kõikidesse inimolenditesse ja ka loomadesse. “Mulle ei meeldi väljend lihtne inimene, kõik inimesed on keerukad!” ütleb ta.
http://www.enesetaiendajad.ee/einar-laigna/
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PS: see pole keeruline: http://alkeemia.delfi.ee/mystika/esoteerika/esoteeriline-filosoof-igor-mang-eesti-ja-laanemaailma-kriisi-pohjus-on-see-et-puudub-opetus-mis-koiki-rahvaid-uhendaks?id=76321643
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Hr Laigna rõhutab alati, et oluline on austav suhtumine kõikidesse inimolenditesse ja ka loomadesse. “Mulle ei meeldi väljend lihtne inimene, kõik inimesed on keerukad!” ütleb ta.
http://www.enesetaiendajad.ee/einar-laigna/
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PS: see pole keeruline: http://alkeemia.delfi.ee/mystika/esoteerika/esoteeriline-filosoof-igor-mang-eesti-ja-laanemaailma-kriisi-pohjus-on-see-et-puudub-opetus-mis-koiki-rahvaid-uhendaks?id=76321643
http://www.delfi.ee/teemalehed/einar-laigna
17 August 2017 13:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kristlik inimese kontseptsioon jms:
http://objektiiv.ee/author/laigna/
http://objektiiv.ee/author/laigna/
http://objektiiv.ee/author/laigna/
17 August 2017 13:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
2009 kuni 2017
http://pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=92%3Aolemine-ja-olemasolemine&catid=21%3Aarhiiv&Itemid=11
http://pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=92%3Aolemine-ja-olemasolemine&catid=21%3Aarhiiv&Itemid=11
http://pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=92%3Aolemine-ja-olemasolemine&catid=21%3Aarhiiv&Itemid=11
17 August 2017 13:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Raamatu «Eestlased Waffen-SSis» autor, ajaloolane Rolf Michaelis, solvus kaitseväe peainspektori Einar Laigna käitumise peale sedavõrd, et soovis Kaitseliidust välja astuda. Tüli põhjuseks sai Tartu Kõrgemas Sõjakoolis toimunud konverents.
«Umbes poolteist kuud tagasi helistas mulle tuttav, vanemleitnant Roman Lukas ja küsis, kas võiksin pidada 19. veebruaril Tartu Kõrgemas Sõjakoolis toimuval konverentsil kõne Dresdeni pommitamisest aastal 1945. Olin nõus, Lukas ütles, et annab mulle peatselt täpsemat infot,» vahendab Pärnu mälestusmärgiskandaaliga avalikkusele tuntuks saanud Leo Tammiksaar oma Saksamaa sõbra Michaelise kirjutatut. Kõne asjus pidi teavet saama Laignalt. Kirjanik kinnitab, et saatis Laignale sms-i oma numbriga, kuid Laigna ei võtnud temaga ühendust (küll saadi teada, Laignale helistas Lukase abikaasa, et konverentsil peab kandma ülikonda ja kuulajaid on 100–300).
16. veebruaril sõitis Michaelis Eestisse ja üritas taas kontakti saada Laignaga.
Kuid viimane ei olevat taas telefonile vastanud. «18. veebruaril üritasin tulutult saada Laignalt infot, kes sõidutab mu Pärnust Tartusse – ehk sõjaväe või Kaitseliidu auto? Minuni jõudis Laigna arvamus, et võin minna vastavalt soovile bussiga või autoga, tal ükspuha,» kirjutab Michaelis. «On kurb, et Eestis leidub inimesi, kelle mentaliteet erineb oluliselt minu nii saksa kui ka eesti sõprade-tuttavate omast.»
Harrastusajaloolase Tammiksaare sõnul oli Michaelis juhtunust nii solvunud, et tahtis Kaitseliidust välja astuda. Tammiksaar veenis teda tükk aega, et mees seda ei teeks.
«Nad ei tunnegi teineteist, seega ma ei usu, et tegu on isikliku kanakitkumisega. Aga Laigna kirjutas nüüd hoopis ise Eesti Ekspressis artikli Dresdeni pommitamisest. Ja minus tekitab see mõtte, et Laigna avastas: ohoo kui huvitav teema, ja sellega saan ju ise loorbereid lõigata! Varastas teema, mis oli tegelikult Michaelisele mõeldud… Napsas endale,» räägib Tammiksaar.
Einar Laigna sõnul käis organiseerimine läbi mitme inimese. «Ja minule ei laekunud vajalikku infot. Olin valmis inimese heaks kõik tegema: oma majas andma toa, autoga sõidutama ja söötma. Aga siis selgus, et Michaelis tuleb ja läheb kohe Pärnusse. Ta on siin ise ka parasjagu süüdi ja kapriisitsenud,» väidab Laigna.
«See oli selline õnnetu juhus, mida mina mustvalgelt ei lahenda, see tähendab, et ma ei ütle ka, et minu poolt oleks kõik olnud tehtud. Oleksin ehk pidanud teda rohkem jahtima. Ja kuidas ma tema kõnedele ei vastanud? Kõned katkesid ja siis rääkisin Lukasega.» Laigna kinnitab, et tal ei ole isiklikult midagi Michaelise vastu: « Me teeme Michaelisele väga viisaka seletus- ja vabanduskirja.»
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/170547/sakslane-tulis-einar-laignaga
«Umbes poolteist kuud tagasi helistas mulle tuttav, vanemleitnant Roman Lukas ja küsis, kas võiksin pidada 19. veebruaril Tartu Kõrgemas Sõjakoolis toimuval konverentsil kõne Dresdeni pommitamisest aastal 1945. Olin nõus, Lukas ütles, et annab mulle peatselt täpsemat infot,» vahendab Pärnu mälestusmärgiskandaaliga avalikkusele tuntuks saanud Leo Tammiksaar oma Saksamaa sõbra Michaelise kirjutatut. Kõne asjus pidi teavet saama Laignalt. Kirjanik kinnitab, et saatis Laignale sms-i oma numbriga, kuid Laigna ei võtnud temaga ühendust (küll saadi teada, Laignale helistas Lukase abikaasa, et konverentsil peab kandma ülikonda ja kuulajaid on 100–300).
16. veebruaril sõitis Michaelis Eestisse ja üritas taas kontakti saada Laignaga.
Kuid viimane ei olevat taas telefonile vastanud. «18. veebruaril üritasin tulutult saada Laignalt infot, kes sõidutab mu Pärnust Tartusse – ehk sõjaväe või Kaitseliidu auto? Minuni jõudis Laigna arvamus, et võin minna vastavalt soovile bussiga või autoga, tal ükspuha,» kirjutab Michaelis. «On kurb, et Eestis leidub inimesi, kelle mentaliteet erineb oluliselt minu nii saksa kui ka eesti sõprade-tuttavate omast.»
Harrastusajaloolase Tammiksaare sõnul oli Michaelis juhtunust nii solvunud, et tahtis Kaitseliidust välja astuda. Tammiksaar veenis teda tükk aega, et mees seda ei teeks.
«Nad ei tunnegi teineteist, seega ma ei usu, et tegu on isikliku kanakitkumisega. Aga Laigna kirjutas nüüd hoopis ise Eesti Ekspressis artikli Dresdeni pommitamisest. Ja minus tekitab see mõtte, et Laigna avastas: ohoo kui huvitav teema, ja sellega saan ju ise loorbereid lõigata! Varastas teema, mis oli tegelikult Michaelisele mõeldud… Napsas endale,» räägib Tammiksaar.
Einar Laigna sõnul käis organiseerimine läbi mitme inimese. «Ja minule ei laekunud vajalikku infot. Olin valmis inimese heaks kõik tegema: oma majas andma toa, autoga sõidutama ja söötma. Aga siis selgus, et Michaelis tuleb ja läheb kohe Pärnusse. Ta on siin ise ka parasjagu süüdi ja kapriisitsenud,» väidab Laigna.
«See oli selline õnnetu juhus, mida mina mustvalgelt ei lahenda, see tähendab, et ma ei ütle ka, et minu poolt oleks kõik olnud tehtud. Oleksin ehk pidanud teda rohkem jahtima. Ja kuidas ma tema kõnedele ei vastanud? Kõned katkesid ja siis rääkisin Lukasega.» Laigna kinnitab, et tal ei ole isiklikult midagi Michaelise vastu: « Me teeme Michaelisele väga viisaka seletus- ja vabanduskirja.»
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/170547/sakslane-tulis-einar-laignaga
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/170547/sakslane-tulis-einar-laignaga
17 August 2017 13:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Hallo, Kosmos!" külaliseks on kolonelleitnant, teoloog, ajaloofilosoof ja mõõgameister EINAR LAIGNA. Saatejuht Ingrid Peek, helirežissöörid Margus Müür ja Monika Tamm. Saates selgub: Milline on kosmiline dimensioon inimese elus? Kust ja kuidas saab hingeõnnistust? Milline on igavik? Mida sümboliseerib mõõk? Mis on kultuuri sünni aluseks? Mida arvata Vatikani väljaütlemistest maavälise mõistusliku elu teemadel? Einar Laigna on lõpetanud Tallinna Polütehnikumi metallitöölise erialal, töötas ka tööõpetuse õpetajana ja luges töö kõrvalt teoloogilist ja filosoofilist kirjandust. Pärast seda astus ta Eesti Evangeelse Luterliku Kiriku Usuteaduse Instituuti, teenis Varbla, Karuse, Margareeta, Hanila Pauluse, Märjamaa Maarja, Ambla Maarja ja Aegviidu Aleksandri kogudustes. Seejärel õppis Laigna katoliku kiriku põrandaaluses vaimulikus seminaris, 1980. aastal pühitseti ta katoliku kiriku idariituse preestriks ja oli viis aastat misjonär Armeenias. 1992. aastal õppis Einar Laigna Vatikanis. Ta on uurinud hilist Rooma impeeriumi, keskaja kultuuri ja kirikuajalugu ning lugenud loenguid Tallinna Ülikoolis, EBSis ja Tallinna Mustpeade majas. Ta on keskaja uurimise ühingu Studium Medievale asutaja ning Akadeemilise Sõjaajaloo Seltsi ja Dominiiklaste III Ordu liige. Einar Laignal on ka muljetavaldav sõjaväeline karjäär: algul töötas ta Kaitseliidus, hiljem Kaitsejõudude peastaabis, olles selle tagalaülem, juhataja nõunik ja peainspektor, ta on olnud ka Peastaabi Ohvitseridekogu ja Eesti Reservohvitseride Kogu esimees. Erru läks ta tegevteenistusest kolonelleitnandi auastmes. Kümme aastat teenistust Eesti kaitsejõududes on Laignale toonud kümme militaaraumärki, neile lisanduvad kolm aumärki tsiviilteenete eest.
http://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/hallo-kosmos-einar-laigna
http://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/hallo-kosmos-einar-laigna
http://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/hallo-kosmos-einar-laigna
17 August 2017 13:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
•Talupojakultuur on võrdne eliidikultuuriga, sest talupoeg elab kooskõlas loodusega. See, mida ma taunin, on massikultuur
egotsentrismist ja elada kosmilises harmoonias, oled alati rahulik ja meditatiivne. Siis sa ei upu teeklaasi...
•Kosmiline mälu – see on justkui film inimese elu igast hetkest, on oluline, et saaksid seda vaadata piinlikkust tundmata. Kosmilises mälus säilub kõik.
•Elu on igavene, me kõik oleme kosmilised olendid. Inimese kosmilisus sõltub sellest, millal lülitatakse sisse tema kosmiline mälu, kas pärast või enne sündi.
•Euroopa on hukkumise faasis, sest on välja lülitatud elu vaimne ja kosmiline külg. Tasub mõtiskleda ka muinasjuttudes sisalduva tarkuse üle, võtame näiteks muinasjutu “Vägev vähk ja ahne naine”- ka meie tsivilisatsioon lendab tagasi hurtsikusse, sest oleme samuti tahtnud saada jumalateks.. (Allikas: "Hallo, kosmos", ERR uudised
http://www.arengutee.com/einar-laigna-motildetteid.html
egotsentrismist ja elada kosmilises harmoonias, oled alati rahulik ja meditatiivne. Siis sa ei upu teeklaasi...
•Kosmiline mälu – see on justkui film inimese elu igast hetkest, on oluline, et saaksid seda vaadata piinlikkust tundmata. Kosmilises mälus säilub kõik.
•Elu on igavene, me kõik oleme kosmilised olendid. Inimese kosmilisus sõltub sellest, millal lülitatakse sisse tema kosmiline mälu, kas pärast või enne sündi.
•Euroopa on hukkumise faasis, sest on välja lülitatud elu vaimne ja kosmiline külg. Tasub mõtiskleda ka muinasjuttudes sisalduva tarkuse üle, võtame näiteks muinasjutu “Vägev vähk ja ahne naine”- ka meie tsivilisatsioon lendab tagasi hurtsikusse, sest oleme samuti tahtnud saada jumalateks.. (Allikas: "Hallo, kosmos", ERR uudised
http://www.arengutee.com/einar-laigna-motildetteid.html
http://www.arengutee.com/einar-laigna-motildetteid.html
17 August 2017 13:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kas Auk on olemas? (Y)
17 August 2017 13:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vihmasaju paraleel päris hea :D
17 August 2017 13:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
euroelu
14 August 2017 15:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
St. proovige helistamise asemel SMS ida enne kindlasti
14 August 2017 14:21
Margus Meigo commented on Caspar Aru's post.
See oleks päris hea "ei me ei saa kakelda, vihma sajab" xD
14 August 2017 14:20
Margus Meigo commented on Mohammed Aamir's photo.
But for every land, their own is best,
Estonian Women for me is like God's top command
Estonian Women for me is like God's top command
11 August 2017 15:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/Viljandi/Photos/Captured/Photo0696.jpg
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/Viljandi/Photos/Captured/Photo0696.jpg
10 August 2017 17:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
New home:
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/Viljandi/Photos/Captured/Photo0709.jpg
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/Viljandi/Photos/Captured/Photo0709.jpg
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/alustuseks/Viljandi/Photos/Captured/Photo0709.jpg
10 August 2017 17:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Põlva - Viru oli teine mõte, kuid jään ikka keskele veel
10 August 2017 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://medium.com/@know.0nix/how-i-hack-23-900-000-tumblr-domains-at-once-341edad6e7cc
https://medium.com/@know.0nix/how-i-hack-23-900-000-tumblr-domains-at-once-341edad6e7cc
10 August 2017 16:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://medium.com/@msuiche/
https://medium.com/@msuiche/
10 August 2017 16:07
Margus Meigo commented on Luciano Hernandez's post.
Group: cDc Ninja Strike Force
Yea, good luck with my beard :D10 August 2017 15:51
Margus Meigo commented on Lilika Ly's photo.
Õnneks on paljud asjad kindlad ja paljud asjad pole võimalikud,
muidu oleks päris hullumaja.. juba sellegagi on päris ulme mis praegu võimalik on ja mis tehtakse, nii head kui muud
muidu oleks päris hullumaja.. juba sellegagi on päris ulme mis praegu võimalik on ja mis tehtakse, nii head kui muud
10 August 2017 15:09
Margus Meigo commented on Annabel Soosaar's post.
eriti aumees muidu, abielus ja magab teise naisega :D
10 August 2017 14:44
Margus Meigo commented on Annabel Soosaar's post.
Nii need inimesed vahest on
10 August 2017 14:44
Margus Meigo commented on Villi Kalda's post.
Tulnuka jutud ka väga pingelised teemad praegu, Vatikan tuleb sellega kõvasti peale ja Vanemaa ise ka kütab kõvasti RenTV kaudu nii ametlike kui väljamõeldud ameerika tulnuka lugusi mida USAs juba valitsuse sõjaväe tippude poolt promotakse, eks näis mis sellest tuleb ja milliste laevadega kohale tullakse
10 August 2017 14:27
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Haa seda tahaks kuulata, kahju, et klappe kaasas pole
10 August 2017 13:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tüüpidel huumori meel ja praktilisust see käiku panna, päris norm
10 August 2017 13:49
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
(Y)
10 August 2017 13:48
Margus Meigo commented on Thomas Mikey Schrøder Jensen's post.
Group: UFO News & Information
Greetings from Estonia : )10 August 2017 13:43
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Lepp's comment.
soe..
8 August 2017 17:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(viljandi moment, tartu v pärnu next?)
5 August 2017 15:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hoitke ideid, SMS : )
5 August 2017 15:00
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's life event.
From who did You ask Glin?
5 August 2017 13:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
pole eriti hea sümbol mehelikuse sümboliseerimiseks,
see ikka karjakoerte märk läbi aegade olnud
see ikka karjakoerte märk läbi aegade olnud
3 August 2017 17:09
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Kaljuvee's post.
Miks need mehed sääl lipsu kannavad?
3 August 2017 17:08
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Kaljuvee's photo.
Tuus
3 August 2017 17:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Ahjaa, juhuks kui keegi arvab, et see juba vahva ja lahe ja lausa kadestab seda " vabadust " (seljakotiga ringi sumada ebavajalikul ajal)
siis kindlasti peab ütlema, et see pole mitte suunitlus, vaid olukord.
Kuid igas olukorras, tuleb ikka põhieesmärkide suunaliseks jääda, muidu pole reaalset põhjust miks olla
siis kindlasti peab ütlema, et see pole mitte suunitlus, vaid olukord.
Kuid igas olukorras, tuleb ikka põhieesmärkide suunaliseks jääda, muidu pole reaalset põhjust miks olla
28 July 2017 13:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://youtu.be/Hf0Dm-OaTNk
https://youtu.be/Hf0Dm-OaTNk
28 July 2017 13:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Hippsta Pleees!
peanööriga
No comment needed :D
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212621710394436&set=a.10212621693074003.1073741886.1135161043&type=3&theater
peanööriga
No comment needed :D
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212621710394436&set=a.10212621693074003.1073741886.1135161043&type=3&theater
28 July 2017 13:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRKNw477onU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRKNw477onU
28 July 2017 13:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi lauludel peaks olema ka elementaatrse võimalusena võimalik aisakellad tagant eemaldada jms kui tarvis, laulu kuulata
28 July 2017 06:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kas pildid ka räägivad sama keelt
28 July 2017 06:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Indrek J
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYlwRmp9zfk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYlwRmp9zfk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYlwRmp9zfk
28 July 2017 06:57
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
koduküla muusikat:
jumalikust tarkusest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOaEA7asXao
jumalikust tarkusest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOaEA7asXao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOaEA7asXao
28 July 2017 06:48
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kuid küll ma teada saan ()me teada saame), kuidas need sõnad ritta panna (kuidas endast õiged sõnad lasta läbi voolata ja ilma voolu mõjutamata need kirja saada), nii kui's vaja kohe peale seda kui vajalikke asju, teadasaanud rohkem
(uned, alustuseks)
(uned, alustuseks)
28 July 2017 06:43
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Eks neid liike jah, ole vast rohkem kui kolm
lisaks headele ja kurjadele ka need kes usuvad, et nad omapeaga teevad
kuid siis kasutatakse nende poolt milleks iganes parasjagu kellegi ajuehitus lubab.
lisaks headele ja kurjadele ka need kes usuvad, et nad omapeaga teevad
kuid siis kasutatakse nende poolt milleks iganes parasjagu kellegi ajuehitus lubab.
28 July 2017 06:40
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
tunnetatav, et on need kes jälgivad / teavad / vaatlevad ja ootavad,
ootavad miskit,
ehk me arengut.
ootavad miskit,
ehk me arengut.
28 July 2017 06:39
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kuid selgitada, selliselt, et mingile uuele seltskonnale , see oleks kunagi tagantvaadateski arusaadav.
kuigi jah, võib ju mõelda, et hea oleks kui kui saaks kohe olema...
(kuid siis kui on, ei suuda me aeglastena, ma ka ise eelkõige ,kõike korraga tajuda, valitakse mingi osa osadest mis seostub lähi unistuste ja tegude ning olukorra segust.. ja kinnistatukse..kinnitutakse, surfatakse selles... kuni meel kanna...)
Kuid jah, selliste kübeväikse asja peale, nagu MEIE enda tarkus.. vell, seda suht vähe siin ilmas, kuigi loota ja arvestada vist tasub, (ollles väga väga julgemeelselt, arrogantne..siis tasub uskuda ja mõeld,a et meil endal ka ikka vahest on päris enda mingi väärtus, tarkus ja mingi lisa mida siia ilma lisame, mis TEISTELE vajalik, või Sule vajalik teiste mõistmiseks, ... kuid kui Sulle on.. arvad, et siis Sa ainukesi omasuguseid kellele selline ajustrulktuur, ajukäsitlus, ajutegevus, mõte, idee, strateegia, plaan, ... või on need kes vaatavad Su ajusse ja kui se kasutatav on siis kaustavad nagunii ise nad seda kuidas ja kus soovivad, kui mõistnud, mileks nende arvates see kasulik ja hea on,
ja enamasti neil suuremad mõtted ja plaanid alati käepärast võtta koguseliselt .. kui nad kõigi teadvuste ja mõtetega eleemntaarse agentuuri olekuna pidevalt ühenduses on,
kuidas kõike muidu reguleerida jõuaks.. .
ja kui oeld suurtematesse , kõrgematesse reaalsuskanalitesse tuuninud ennast siis tead, ja oled ehk tunnetanud seda, see päris tunnetatav siis kergesti
kuigi jah, võib ju mõelda, et hea oleks kui kui saaks kohe olema...
(kuid siis kui on, ei suuda me aeglastena, ma ka ise eelkõige ,kõike korraga tajuda, valitakse mingi osa osadest mis seostub lähi unistuste ja tegude ning olukorra segust.. ja kinnistatukse..kinnitutakse, surfatakse selles... kuni meel kanna...)
Kuid jah, selliste kübeväikse asja peale, nagu MEIE enda tarkus.. vell, seda suht vähe siin ilmas, kuigi loota ja arvestada vist tasub, (ollles väga väga julgemeelselt, arrogantne..siis tasub uskuda ja mõeld,a et meil endal ka ikka vahest on päris enda mingi väärtus, tarkus ja mingi lisa mida siia ilma lisame, mis TEISTELE vajalik, või Sule vajalik teiste mõistmiseks, ... kuid kui Sulle on.. arvad, et siis Sa ainukesi omasuguseid kellele selline ajustrulktuur, ajukäsitlus, ajutegevus, mõte, idee, strateegia, plaan, ... või on need kes vaatavad Su ajusse ja kui se kasutatav on siis kaustavad nagunii ise nad seda kuidas ja kus soovivad, kui mõistnud, mileks nende arvates see kasulik ja hea on,
ja enamasti neil suuremad mõtted ja plaanid alati käepärast võtta koguseliselt .. kui nad kõigi teadvuste ja mõtetega eleemntaarse agentuuri olekuna pidevalt ühenduses on,
kuidas kõike muidu reguleerida jõuaks.. .
ja kui oeld suurtematesse , kõrgematesse reaalsuskanalitesse tuuninud ennast siis tead, ja oled ehk tunnetanud seda, see päris tunnetatav siis kergesti
28 July 2017 06:38
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
omapärasus jah, see on meil kõigil, kes omapärased, ... kuid kogu see individuaalsuse asi, et ennast vastutusest kahti ühedada ja deliiriumi illusioonis hoides, arvata, et üldse ise otsustamisega tegeled targemate asjade osas pidevalt...
ei nu need asjad ikka on koostöös, arukad asjad on ikkagi koostöös teistearukate reaalsuskanalite, vaimude ja tarkustega mis juba olemas on,
minski tarkuse mida inimesed, mu sarnased saavad juurde luua, heal juhul, on erinevate reaalsuskanalite vahelise üheduste selgitamised ja märkamised, kokkupanemised ja usus, et vajalik need reaalsuskanalid ka väikesmale (ehk enda poolele, eelkõige) arusaadavaks teha..
selgitada üle tee minemise põhimõtteid kus on sebrane liikluskord... ja slegitada soo põhimõtteid kus on soine maapind..
ei nu need asjad ikka on koostöös, arukad asjad on ikkagi koostöös teistearukate reaalsuskanalite, vaimude ja tarkustega mis juba olemas on,
minski tarkuse mida inimesed, mu sarnased saavad juurde luua, heal juhul, on erinevate reaalsuskanalite vahelise üheduste selgitamised ja märkamised, kokkupanemised ja usus, et vajalik need reaalsuskanalid ka väikesmale (ehk enda poolele, eelkõige) arusaadavaks teha..
selgitada üle tee minemise põhimõtteid kus on sebrane liikluskord... ja slegitada soo põhimõtteid kus on soine maapind..
28 July 2017 06:33
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Pole veel sarnasemat punti näinud, nende üld tegemiste ja uskumiste alal, osas, kui suurem osa individualiste, see on nii halenaljakas omamoodi vaadata jumala inimestega seda asja kõrvalt ja teiste hippidega, kuidas nagu miskite maskidega ja Oleku üritamiste olemistega ringi jookstakse... oma indiviualismi dileeriumis.
Ise ei teata mis ise ongi, ja kes ise oli ja milleks saama peaks... aga ise ise.. ikka ise oluline, et ise saaks ise enda eest otsustada.. ja ...
nu kui inimene vaid arusaaks, et kõige suurem vabadus ja algalgus, juba ongi usuolemuse kese,
kusenda küljest poogid lahti hunniku tulnarite ja muude nakide kette ja karjatamiste karjuseid... et hakata nii toimetama nagu Looojal vaja...
ja siis ongi suurim vabadus, kui sedasi juba sadakond indimest koos toimetada saab, jumala Hinguses
Ise ei teata mis ise ongi, ja kes ise oli ja milleks saama peaks... aga ise ise.. ikka ise oluline, et ise saaks ise enda eest otsustada.. ja ...
nu kui inimene vaid arusaaks, et kõige suurem vabadus ja algalgus, juba ongi usuolemuse kese,
kusenda küljest poogid lahti hunniku tulnarite ja muude nakide kette ja karjatamiste karjuseid... et hakata nii toimetama nagu Looojal vaja...
ja siis ongi suurim vabadus, kui sedasi juba sadakond indimest koos toimetada saab, jumala Hinguses
28 July 2017 06:29
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
individualismi usk ja hulus on praeguseaja absoluutselt kõige ajatipus,
ainuke koht kus see kõrgemal võis olla, oli rooma-greeka homode gymnaasiumis, kuigi selles tegeleti ka ikka allusmisega, suurpederastidele. Inimesele pimdealt Allumise õpetus (olenemata sellest, kas keegi on jumalik v mitte) on aga koolis/gymnaasiumis neil siianisees.
ainuke koht kus see kõrgemal võis olla, oli rooma-greeka homode gymnaasiumis, kuigi selles tegeleti ka ikka allusmisega, suurpederastidele. Inimesele pimdealt Allumise õpetus (olenemata sellest, kas keegi on jumalik v mitte) on aga koolis/gymnaasiumis neil siianisees.
28 July 2017 06:25
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kui individualismi fänn oled, siis mõtle... kumb meist kahest selle ühiskonna suhtes sarnasem siin on, kellesuguseid on palju näha ja kuulda, meie või sinu ?
28 July 2017 06:17
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
individuaalsus, on ju haigus,
kuigi ma ise ilmselgelt olen rohkem individuaalne kui enamus inimesi, ilma igasuguse vaidluseta, nii toimetustelt kui olemiselt, kuid seesmiselt, ma kõige sarnasem :p
kuigi ma ise ilmselgelt olen rohkem individuaalne kui enamus inimesi, ilma igasuguse vaidluseta, nii toimetustelt kui olemiselt, kuid seesmiselt, ma kõige sarnasem :p
28 July 2017 06:15
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ja ega kullasepa elu ei saagi olla VÄLISELT sarnane meremehega, kuid ma rääägin SISEMISEST sarnasusuest
28 July 2017 06:14
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov kui teed alati mida tahad, ja kui Su tahtmine pole Jumalathatmine, siis on see endiselt nõrkus, totrus ja hullumeelsus millegi sellise asja üle õnnelik olla,
suuv peaks ikka olema SEDA teha mida kogu maailm vajab, mida jumal soovib ja mis teistele heas kasulikus mõttes meeldiv.
Vabatahe ika enamasti seda erititarga ja auväärse asjana ei vaadata.
Vabatahte usu hulluses olles, kus mees usub, etteeb mida soovib jaise usub kaet nii on.. nu see jah, see ongi ikkagi see üks ja sama punt minu mastaabites vaadates.
Kuid saad ka olla täitsa kolmas liik küll, sest jah, midagi kolmandat teed Sa küll : )
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Sina näed indiviide erinevana, mina aga näen mida rohkem teid tunnen, teid rohkem sarnastena.
Kõige all, kõigil kõikasjad aina sarnasemaks muutuvad, kes on terved
suuv peaks ikka olema SEDA teha mida kogu maailm vajab, mida jumal soovib ja mis teistele heas kasulikus mõttes meeldiv.
Vabatahe ika enamasti seda erititarga ja auväärse asjana ei vaadata.
Vabatahte usu hulluses olles, kus mees usub, etteeb mida soovib jaise usub kaet nii on.. nu see jah, see ongi ikkagi see üks ja sama punt minu mastaabites vaadates.
Kuid saad ka olla täitsa kolmas liik küll, sest jah, midagi kolmandat teed Sa küll : )
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Sina näed indiviide erinevana, mina aga näen mida rohkem teid tunnen, teid rohkem sarnastena.
Kõige all, kõigil kõikasjad aina sarnasemaks muutuvad, kes on terved
28 July 2017 06:13
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek J's comment.
Selle puuga kommunistid näitasid jah, oma palet,jultunud sisu ja jõhkrust päris kõvasti.
See jubaüle 400 s puu oli mida nad mahaei oleks tohtinud võtta selle ehitusega, algse plaani järgi
Loomulikult oli maanteed ODAVAM ja LIHTSAM teha teiseltpoolt, see ärihoone kuuut kui vaja oleks saanud eemale lükata, ,
.. muidugi kaitsjad ka kahju, et nii potensiaalika teemaga ikkagi nii vähe ettearvestust oli millega vastamisi seisti...
minu enda arusaam on et kaitsjate seas oli ka tahtlike või teadmatuid trolle, kes meelega asjast arulageda mulje jätsid, küsimus oli ju alati selles, eelkõige, kas on vaja inimeste, lastele aknaalt, ukseligidalt see suur maantee ehitada, lõigates ära majaesise loodusliku ala,
ja viamses mõttes,see puu vägatähtsat rolli mängis inimeste meelte ja naiselikuse ravis, muidugi see ka vaimuilmaspõhjus miks puid maha võetkase rünnakuna, sest nad aitavad iniemstel normaalsemad olla.. kui aga pole puid, siis kojntrollitavad lihtsamini
See jubaüle 400 s puu oli mida nad mahaei oleks tohtinud võtta selle ehitusega, algse plaani järgi
Loomulikult oli maanteed ODAVAM ja LIHTSAM teha teiseltpoolt, see ärihoone kuuut kui vaja oleks saanud eemale lükata, ,
.. muidugi kaitsjad ka kahju, et nii potensiaalika teemaga ikkagi nii vähe ettearvestust oli millega vastamisi seisti...
minu enda arusaam on et kaitsjate seas oli ka tahtlike või teadmatuid trolle, kes meelega asjast arulageda mulje jätsid, küsimus oli ju alati selles, eelkõige, kas on vaja inimeste, lastele aknaalt, ukseligidalt see suur maantee ehitada, lõigates ära majaesise loodusliku ala,
ja viamses mõttes,see puu vägatähtsat rolli mängis inimeste meelte ja naiselikuse ravis, muidugi see ka vaimuilmaspõhjus miks puid maha võetkase rünnakuna, sest nad aitavad iniemstel normaalsemad olla.. kui aga pole puid, siis kojntrollitavad lihtsamini
27 July 2017 15:45
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Heameelega räägin sama juttu elulõpuni, ega NEED asjad ei lõppe ja mu jutt põhineb inimeste jutul kes on elanud 40+ aastat suhetes, suurtes peredes, kuid kes kohe algselt said teada kes ja mis naine on.
Siis ei teki kunagi sellist illusiooni mehel, et see midagi muud kui puhas õnnistus ja alastus, kui üldse mini naine on,kes hoolib.
See on kuidas maailmas lihtsalt tegelikult on, ja kuna minu keelud ja käsud ühtivad sellega mis on suurimad seadused, siis ilmselgelt, võid uskuda oma peas mida iganes, et "teised ei saa keelataja teed mida tahad" (need on nõrkuse märgid tegelikult), kuid saab ikkagi nii olema nagu on öeldud.
Liigi osas... nu kas tundud olema matriarhaatliku liini taimetoitlaste ehk algsete inimeste liin ? Liik ikka teine, kuid iga aastaga tundudmeeldivam, vot mine tea on see mu enda närvikava mis täiskasvanulikumaks saad või muutume ise koosajaga, sinnapoole mida usume.
Siis ei teki kunagi sellist illusiooni mehel, et see midagi muud kui puhas õnnistus ja alastus, kui üldse mini naine on,kes hoolib.
See on kuidas maailmas lihtsalt tegelikult on, ja kuna minu keelud ja käsud ühtivad sellega mis on suurimad seadused, siis ilmselgelt, võid uskuda oma peas mida iganes, et "teised ei saa keelataja teed mida tahad" (need on nõrkuse märgid tegelikult), kuid saab ikkagi nii olema nagu on öeldud.
Liigi osas... nu kas tundud olema matriarhaatliku liini taimetoitlaste ehk algsete inimeste liin ? Liik ikka teine, kuid iga aastaga tundudmeeldivam, vot mine tea on see mu enda närvikava mis täiskasvanulikumaks saad või muutume ise koosajaga, sinnapoole mida usume.
27 July 2017 15:39
Margus Meigo replied to Rauno Sammel's comment.
kahjuks küll jep,
või nu mis ta ikka nii ise suri..
või nu mis ta ikka nii ise suri..
27 July 2017 15:29
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kui vaja naist süüdistada, jäta see naise hooleks.
27 July 2017 13:40
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov ainult mehi saad südistada,
kuna oled mees, ja pole võrdne liik
Naistes võid otsida mida oma meeles saaksid aidata ja taastada.
Süüdistada, aga mehel naist pole kombeks .
Ja pole ka midagi süüdistada, kui kaardid laulae panna, vaimses väärtuses, kes on kuidas ja miks.
kuna oled mees, ja pole võrdne liik
Naistes võid otsida mida oma meeles saaksid aidata ja taastada.
Süüdistada, aga mehel naist pole kombeks .
Ja pole ka midagi süüdistada, kui kaardid laulae panna, vaimses väärtuses, kes on kuidas ja miks.
27 July 2017 13:40
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov oot MIKS peaks Naine armastava mehe jätma ilma tähelepanust ja toest, teab see naine ju naturaalsemalt kui mees, et see tema kogu valik. See mees.
Mida see mees tegema siis pidi, et naine enam tähelepanu mehele ei soovinud pöörata, ega ei toetanud ? ?
Mida see mees tegema siis pidi, et naine enam tähelepanu mehele ei soovinud pöörata, ega ei toetanud ? ?
27 July 2017 11:44
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
See oli leebelt kokkuvõetud midagi kus naise olemus mehele sekundaarseks on muutunud ja kui Naine midagi vajaks siis see ei pakuks pinget arusaamast eemaldanule ja koosolemise osas, vastaks , kutse peale kasvõi koosolemisele .. et "ei viitsi"
siis see juba suur patt
siis see juba suur patt
27 July 2017 11:06
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
see oli neile mõeldud kes selles osas midagi teha soovib ja arusaab, milles on vajalikus
27 July 2017 10:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
( https://www.linkedin.com/in/waffa )
https://www.linkedin.com/in/waffa
27 July 2017 09:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Selles stiilis suts, aint , et praegu õnneks on suvi
ja maa http://parnu.postimees.ee/3432897/margus-meigo-kodutu-maailmaparandusminister
ja maa http://parnu.postimees.ee/3432897/margus-meigo-kodutu-maailmaparandusminister
http://parnu.postimees.ee/3432897/margus-meigo-kodutu-maailmaparandusminister
27 July 2017 09:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja siis jõuab kuni sinnamaani välja:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYKHaZTtxBM
// kuidas need asjad on võimalikud, et taolisi asju tavalisteks ja loomupärastekski peetakse.. see, et nii arvatakse, tähelepanu ei pöörata, SEE onsee hullumeelsuse kõrgeim tase mis ajab meeletuks, mitte isegi see aint, et nii on olevat aegajalt eri aegadel, tundub, ja päris kindel, et vahest rohkem kui valesti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYKHaZTtxBM
// kuidas need asjad on võimalikud, et taolisi asju tavalisteks ja loomupärastekski peetakse.. see, et nii arvatakse, tähelepanu ei pöörata, SEE onsee hullumeelsuse kõrgeim tase mis ajab meeletuks, mitte isegi see aint, et nii on olevat aegajalt eri aegadel, tundub, ja päris kindel, et vahest rohkem kui valesti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYKHaZTtxBM
27 July 2017 09:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
samas ka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RipQ5DeLzto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RipQ5DeLzto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RipQ5DeLzto
27 July 2017 08:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ei aima me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBimXhI4E8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBimXhI4E8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBimXhI4E8k
27 July 2017 06:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ega siis jah, kui proovida tuleb harva miskit, vaim kaameraid ja eelsättimisi, lõkse, komersialismi ei salli.. kuid peaaegu midagi ikka peale sai
27 July 2017 05:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Et siis jaa..
https://youtu.be/HI22ssUBG5s
https://youtu.be/HI22ssUBG5s
https://youtu.be/HI22ssUBG5s
27 July 2017 05:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Kõik ei saa olla karjamaal, osad peavad olema ka marjamaal..
https://youtu.be/B665sVcsZZg
Näed, viljapõllu ääres, ja marjad ilusti alles, ... ikkagi saavad korraliku vilja inimesed kasvatatud ilma ilma ja elu rikkumata küllhttps://youtu.be/B665sVcsZZg
27 July 2017 05:19
Margus Meigo commented on Mo Mohamed's photo.
still loving the stripes (will find pic on it what i thought)
27 July 2017 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but should have been elaborate from there,
the point was to educate one and two to understanding,
that perhaps there is some forces, that in purpose will put women wear makeup as roman prostitutes or high heels as walking fragile meat
(women made it self fragile, to appeal more to the savage kind of mind, is what the meaning is for high heels,... how REAL man should have feel about it... they will not even go for hunting for her most of the time , competition is also so slick and does not choose the weapons by the honor.. so would be hard point to compete in wrong kind of scale, for earth / natural beings. )
the point was to educate one and two to understanding,
that perhaps there is some forces, that in purpose will put women wear makeup as roman prostitutes or high heels as walking fragile meat
(women made it self fragile, to appeal more to the savage kind of mind, is what the meaning is for high heels,... how REAL man should have feel about it... they will not even go for hunting for her most of the time , competition is also so slick and does not choose the weapons by the honor.. so would be hard point to compete in wrong kind of scale, for earth / natural beings. )
27 July 2017 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The sentence that She got really mad about:
"well yea You be master of it wouldn't you
tats your Creation, you wont meet any women, in Your reality that are in Space of Power, as your point of attraction are women, that aren't ..."
Man who say this kind of sentence, to the flood of emotional revelation that possible was coming from her, and hearing her low self worth long time before.. was kind of master piece for start point to say anything like that, this kind of reply come from well smart and humble smart, aged / scientist side of mind with country side of touch // this kind of mind , first of all , was needed to be at least, to produce this kind of sentence, if she Really remember so well that reply, that's significant as well.
and in first galanse, to take it as a "tögamine"/frindlyHelpfulIntelginetJoking or as it is called, ..when huspand friendly way educates deeply ones love to embrace ones ability to jump higher in full realization ,to step out of it, to extend, say to man that you now want to include all women in to spectrum of women, all aspects,
in Minute 7:
https://youtu.be/Vnbi2tiTHAk?t=420
"well yea You be master of it wouldn't you
tats your Creation, you wont meet any women, in Your reality that are in Space of Power, as your point of attraction are women, that aren't ..."
Man who say this kind of sentence, to the flood of emotional revelation that possible was coming from her, and hearing her low self worth long time before.. was kind of master piece for start point to say anything like that, this kind of reply come from well smart and humble smart, aged / scientist side of mind with country side of touch // this kind of mind , first of all , was needed to be at least, to produce this kind of sentence, if she Really remember so well that reply, that's significant as well.
and in first galanse, to take it as a "tögamine"/frindlyHelpfulIntelginetJoking or as it is called, ..when huspand friendly way educates deeply ones love to embrace ones ability to jump higher in full realization ,to step out of it, to extend, say to man that you now want to include all women in to spectrum of women, all aspects,
in Minute 7:
https://youtu.be/Vnbi2tiTHAk?t=420
https://youtu.be/Vnbi2tiTHAk?t=420
27 July 2017 01:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And as they know they advertise, (for these who look YT ads, front of video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15NXrnyT2HM )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15NXrnyT2HM
27 July 2017 00:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but this part she got angry with i have to hear once more
27 July 2017 00:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
well, maybe, still.. missing the fact, telling, WHO YOU ARE
as WOMEN, subjected to man,
i mean, the position, real position, situation, how it began, how epic is the rightful difference between the spirits/body outcomes of male and female,
and how world keeps that so much in balance anyway... can women not make decision in mind, to give birth only to a women,
sure they can,
can they not stop the Conceived status just by thought and even eject embryo from body just by mind heart will ?
sure You can, if You woman,
so what else, yes.. we need still this what i say, to make a network where people can be get trusted, respected information, but this need to be build up , with in 30 years time
as WOMEN, subjected to man,
i mean, the position, real position, situation, how it began, how epic is the rightful difference between the spirits/body outcomes of male and female,
and how world keeps that so much in balance anyway... can women not make decision in mind, to give birth only to a women,
sure they can,
can they not stop the Conceived status just by thought and even eject embryo from body just by mind heart will ?
sure You can, if You woman,
so what else, yes.. we need still this what i say, to make a network where people can be get trusted, respected information, but this need to be build up , with in 30 years time
27 July 2017 00:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
just important to mention, on 14 minute,
that man HAVE to understand, the Holiness of Her, as no one can rise when man forget to eliminate wrongful man who hold other's back
that man HAVE to understand, the Holiness of Her, as no one can rise when man forget to eliminate wrongful man who hold other's back
27 July 2017 00:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
26 July 2017 23:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
26 July 2017 23:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://bmcmedresmethodol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12874-016-0229-9
https://bmcmedresmethodol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12874-016-0229-9
26 July 2017 23:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So who get's judged and have to make more changes and who gets to perfect their natural way
26 July 2017 23:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Full article:
http://who.int/features/2017/health-equity/en/
Discovering who misses out on health: the example of Indonesia
Childbirth can be dangerous even in the most sterile hospitals. But unhygienic conditions add an additional deadly threat to women and their babies: tetanus.
Tetanus can be prevented with an inexpensive vaccine, but women who are poor or live in remote areas often lack access to essential services such as immunization and are at greater risk.
That was the situation in Indonesia in 2012. Immunization programmes had eliminated tetanus in three of the sprawling archipelago’s four regions, but lower vaccination rates in the poorest West Papua region meant that the disease remained a major threat there.
After a concerted effort by Indonesia’s government to improve access to health services in remote regions and to increase vaccination rates in the most disadvantaged areas, the nation was declared to have eliminated tetanus last year, meaning less than one case of neonatal tetanus occurs per 1000 live births in each district.
“Eliminating tetanus was a major achievement for Indonesia,” said Dr Jihane Tawilah, WHO's representative to Indonesia. “Neonatal tetanus is a symbol of health inequality. It affects the poorest and the least educated part of the population.”
Indonesia is one of many countries working to improve access to health services for the most disadvantaged people, as part of its commitment to “leave no one behind” in pursuit of the Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). Among the 17 goals, SDG 3 focuses on ensuring healthy lives for all people at all ages, while SDG 10 calls for a reduction in inequality within and between countries.
While many countries have made progress in improving the overall health of their populations on a variety of measures, national averages don’t tell the whole story. Groups of people can miss out on health services for a variety of reasons: their gender, where they live, how much they earn, their education, and other social and cultural reasons.
But in order to improve the health of the most disadvantaged people and to increase their access to health services, data are needed about the health state of all population subgroups including the most disadvantaged.
“Monitoring health inequality is essential to ensure no one is being left behind,” said Dr Ahmad Reza Hosseinpoor, who leads WHO’s work on health equity monitoring. “WHO has developed a package of resources and tools to encourage the practice of and build capacity for global and national health inequality monitoring.”
One of the key products in the package is the Health Equity Assessment Toolkit (HEAT), a software application which was launched by WHO last year that enables countries to analyse, interpret and report data on health inequalities in order to shed light on where investments are needed to expand services to those who don’t have them and to improve their health.
When it was first launched, HEAT was restricted to data from WHO’s Health Equity Monitor database, which contains data on reproductive, maternal, newborn and child health for 102 countries. The new edition of the toolkit, called HEAT Plus, enables users to upload data from their own sources, making it a much more powerful tool for analysing and reporting health inequalities across a range of topics.
HEAT Plus, which was tested in Indonesia, allowed the country to analyse and interpret inequalities in many other health topics using vast amounts of its own data.
As a result, Indonesia is now developing its first national report on the state of health inequality, which will be published by the end of the year and will give policy-makers valuable insights that will help them to make strategic decisions to improve health. The nation has committed to integrating health inequality monitoring into its national health information system.
WHO has been working with Indonesia’s health ministry to map the country’s data sources for health inequality monitoring and identify data gaps, analyse the data and report the results.
In addition to HEAT Plus, WHO this week launched two other products to help countries dig deeper into health inequalities, including a step-by-step manual to help countries embed health inequality monitoring in their health information systems, and the statistical codes needed to analyse household survey data to reveal where inequalities lie.
Animated infographics: health inequalities
http://who.int/features/2017/health-equity/en/
Discovering who misses out on health: the example of Indonesia
Childbirth can be dangerous even in the most sterile hospitals. But unhygienic conditions add an additional deadly threat to women and their babies: tetanus.
Tetanus can be prevented with an inexpensive vaccine, but women who are poor or live in remote areas often lack access to essential services such as immunization and are at greater risk.
That was the situation in Indonesia in 2012. Immunization programmes had eliminated tetanus in three of the sprawling archipelago’s four regions, but lower vaccination rates in the poorest West Papua region meant that the disease remained a major threat there.
After a concerted effort by Indonesia’s government to improve access to health services in remote regions and to increase vaccination rates in the most disadvantaged areas, the nation was declared to have eliminated tetanus last year, meaning less than one case of neonatal tetanus occurs per 1000 live births in each district.
“Eliminating tetanus was a major achievement for Indonesia,” said Dr Jihane Tawilah, WHO's representative to Indonesia. “Neonatal tetanus is a symbol of health inequality. It affects the poorest and the least educated part of the population.”
Indonesia is one of many countries working to improve access to health services for the most disadvantaged people, as part of its commitment to “leave no one behind” in pursuit of the Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). Among the 17 goals, SDG 3 focuses on ensuring healthy lives for all people at all ages, while SDG 10 calls for a reduction in inequality within and between countries.
While many countries have made progress in improving the overall health of their populations on a variety of measures, national averages don’t tell the whole story. Groups of people can miss out on health services for a variety of reasons: their gender, where they live, how much they earn, their education, and other social and cultural reasons.
But in order to improve the health of the most disadvantaged people and to increase their access to health services, data are needed about the health state of all population subgroups including the most disadvantaged.
“Monitoring health inequality is essential to ensure no one is being left behind,” said Dr Ahmad Reza Hosseinpoor, who leads WHO’s work on health equity monitoring. “WHO has developed a package of resources and tools to encourage the practice of and build capacity for global and national health inequality monitoring.”
One of the key products in the package is the Health Equity Assessment Toolkit (HEAT), a software application which was launched by WHO last year that enables countries to analyse, interpret and report data on health inequalities in order to shed light on where investments are needed to expand services to those who don’t have them and to improve their health.
When it was first launched, HEAT was restricted to data from WHO’s Health Equity Monitor database, which contains data on reproductive, maternal, newborn and child health for 102 countries. The new edition of the toolkit, called HEAT Plus, enables users to upload data from their own sources, making it a much more powerful tool for analysing and reporting health inequalities across a range of topics.
HEAT Plus, which was tested in Indonesia, allowed the country to analyse and interpret inequalities in many other health topics using vast amounts of its own data.
As a result, Indonesia is now developing its first national report on the state of health inequality, which will be published by the end of the year and will give policy-makers valuable insights that will help them to make strategic decisions to improve health. The nation has committed to integrating health inequality monitoring into its national health information system.
WHO has been working with Indonesia’s health ministry to map the country’s data sources for health inequality monitoring and identify data gaps, analyse the data and report the results.
In addition to HEAT Plus, WHO this week launched two other products to help countries dig deeper into health inequalities, including a step-by-step manual to help countries embed health inequality monitoring in their health information systems, and the statistical codes needed to analyse household survey data to reveal where inequalities lie.
Animated infographics: health inequalities
http://who.int/features/2017/health-equity/en/
26 July 2017 22:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Country profiles http://who.int/entity/gho/health_equity/countries/en/index.html
Statistical codes : http://who.int/entity/gho/health_equity/statistical_codes/en/index.html
Compendium of indicator definitions: http://who.int/entity/gho/health_equity/outcomes/health_equity_compendium.pdf
Full article:
http://who.int/features/2017/health-equity/en/
Discovering who misses out on health: the example of Indonesia
Statistical codes : http://who.int/entity/gho/health_equity/statistical_codes/en/index.html
Compendium of indicator definitions: http://who.int/entity/gho/health_equity/outcomes/health_equity_compendium.pdf
Full article:
http://who.int/features/2017/health-equity/en/
Discovering who misses out on health: the example of Indonesia
http://who.int/entity/gho/health_equity/countries/en/index.html
26 July 2017 22:40
Margus Meigo replied to Marianna Pro's comment.
Katya Sydameke loodetavasti läheb midagi paremaks siis, sest see mis siiani olnud oli.. ei valmistanud mingisugust vaimset kaitset, tunnete haridust ega koduarmastust inimestes,
seega minu silmis, inimliigi vastane mitmeti,
internetist ehk midagi asjalikumat kohatakse ehk, kui optimistlikult vaadata
seega minu silmis, inimliigi vastane mitmeti,
internetist ehk midagi asjalikumat kohatakse ehk, kui optimistlikult vaadata
26 July 2017 01:59
Margus Meigo replied to Marianna Pro's comment.
How You pleased with a school so far?
What can be better, is school main aims to make human free as promoted or will it end up making humans imprisoned in feeling poor disbelief ... but i can still see in hope of it
https://youtu.be/CWcR3ogHRnY?list=RDpgGNZ69CkPg
What can be better, is school main aims to make human free as promoted or will it end up making humans imprisoned in feeling poor disbelief ... but i can still see in hope of it
https://youtu.be/CWcR3ogHRnY?list=RDpgGNZ69CkPg
https://youtu.be/CWcR3ogHRnY?list=RDpgGNZ69CkPg
25 July 2017 21:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(look upper post, that wall enabled )
25 July 2017 18:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
How from THAT link https://twitter.com/cspanwj/status/889835936162471938 comes... this in to FB, ?
https://twitter.com/cspanwj/status/889835936162471938
25 July 2017 18:11
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
// ärge isiklikult võtke, emotsioonikas päev ka olnud suts, (teatud haruldased olukorrad mis veel korda lähevad ennasthäirivalt)
Ei tasu olla upsakas, et keegi sedasi küsib, et "nu kui ei tea siis ei ole vaja teada"
sest VÄGA kindlameelseid eripoole teadmisi, VÄGA mitmes vallas on, pea surmani väljaminema kindlusega ühed teavad ühtemoodi teised teisimoodi, kuid kui küsida, lihtsaimat, et räägi kuidas ise usud, ja kuidas oelma peaks... siis enamus nii mitmet moodi kavalalt ära maetud, et leitakse mitmesuguseid pseudo vabandusi asjadest mitte rääkimiseks, kellel saladused ja kellel "Niisuur teamdine , et teised ei saa aru" jms.
Siiamaani ootan, et keegi mu ajurakke pingutaks asjaosas, mida nad ise ka tõsiselt usuvad või kardavad, või loodavad.
Paljudel aga lootusetud teooriad ja lootusetuse programmid, et küll on kuupeal hinge filtrerimise tehased kes ei lase siit plehku panna orjadel ja saturnil informaytsiooni haldmaise arvutid mis kogu maa teadvuseosas otsele jõuab iga u 7 minuti takka ülejäänud puntide juhtimiseks jms...
küll on kanaldajaid ja küll on... nu igast maaalustest , veealustest ja õhus nähtmatudest baasidest ei hakka rääkimagi mida siin ja seal ka räägitakse.. kuid otseselt keegi oma uskumiste eest eriti seista ei julge, va. kui on ateistlik uskumus, ehk siis mitte millegisse uskumine et endal vähem hirmsam ja illusioonselt turvalisem oleks, nad suht ainukesed enamasti, kes oma asja eest paargi vaidlust seista julgevad... kuid midagi tegema ikka ei julgeta minna, et selgust ja muudatusi tuua, paremuse poole.. .
Hmm..
Ei tasu olla upsakas, et keegi sedasi küsib, et "nu kui ei tea siis ei ole vaja teada"
sest VÄGA kindlameelseid eripoole teadmisi, VÄGA mitmes vallas on, pea surmani väljaminema kindlusega ühed teavad ühtemoodi teised teisimoodi, kuid kui küsida, lihtsaimat, et räägi kuidas ise usud, ja kuidas oelma peaks... siis enamus nii mitmet moodi kavalalt ära maetud, et leitakse mitmesuguseid pseudo vabandusi asjadest mitte rääkimiseks, kellel saladused ja kellel "Niisuur teamdine , et teised ei saa aru" jms.
Siiamaani ootan, et keegi mu ajurakke pingutaks asjaosas, mida nad ise ka tõsiselt usuvad või kardavad, või loodavad.
Paljudel aga lootusetud teooriad ja lootusetuse programmid, et küll on kuupeal hinge filtrerimise tehased kes ei lase siit plehku panna orjadel ja saturnil informaytsiooni haldmaise arvutid mis kogu maa teadvuseosas otsele jõuab iga u 7 minuti takka ülejäänud puntide juhtimiseks jms...
küll on kanaldajaid ja küll on... nu igast maaalustest , veealustest ja õhus nähtmatudest baasidest ei hakka rääkimagi mida siin ja seal ka räägitakse.. kuid otseselt keegi oma uskumiste eest eriti seista ei julge, va. kui on ateistlik uskumus, ehk siis mitte millegisse uskumine et endal vähem hirmsam ja illusioonselt turvalisem oleks, nad suht ainukesed enamasti, kes oma asja eest paargi vaidlust seista julgevad... kuid midagi tegema ikka ei julgeta minna, et selgust ja muudatusi tuua, paremuse poole.. .
Hmm..
25 July 2017 16:29
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Kuid siis kumb pool, mis pooled, kes need inimesepoolsemad on ja kes ei ole , kes on kuidas ja kes on kuidas vastu millistele inimestele, see oli see küsimus, et seda asja ikka keegi otseselt avalikult rääkida... ?
Oskab
Oskab
25 July 2017 16:23
Margus Meigo commented on Marianna Pro's post.
Ohoo : )
25 July 2017 16:20
Margus Meigo commented on Marianna Pro's post.
omg:
"“I think everyone will understand that it will be more than $550,” he said on Wednesday. “We just can’t have people decide to go out to Home Depot and build a staircase in a park because that’s what they would like to have.”"
yeah, can imagine,,, humans behaving as adults.. can't have that
"“I think everyone will understand that it will be more than $550,” he said on Wednesday. “We just can’t have people decide to go out to Home Depot and build a staircase in a park because that’s what they would like to have.”"
yeah, can imagine,,, humans behaving as adults.. can't have that
25 July 2017 16:17
Margus Meigo commented on Marianna Pro's post.
Does not kill, HEALS
why they use this working..
why they use this working..
25 July 2017 16:12
Margus Meigo commented on Marianna Pro's post.
Remember when i thought about this kind of app, really long time ago.. but top of that, proper network of connected knowledge behind it, what plant, who knows, where to find, what people, what time what culture... alternative beliefs about plant etc
25 July 2017 16:11
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
vot ega need päevad.. kas ikka kõik alati on ühtemoodi, ..see ala kus osas peab veel mütlema, kas saab sedasi reaalselt mis iganes skaalas olla
25 July 2017 16:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
/
https://youtu.be/IXdNnw99-Ic
https://youtu.be/IXdNnw99-Ic
https://youtu.be/IXdNnw99-Ic
25 July 2017 15:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
/ ..nii pole ka õige
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS-af9Q-zvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS-af9Q-zvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS-af9Q-zvQ
25 July 2017 15:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Toomas Sirge eks ta üks esmakordne, selline asi teleekraanil oli
lopp oli tolleaagsete iniemste joaks päris shokeeriv, pikasellise eelmöngupeale,
eks nüüüd need teemad juba tavalisemad
lopp oli tolleaagsete iniemste joaks päris shokeeriv, pikasellise eelmöngupeale,
eks nüüüd need teemad juba tavalisemad
25 July 2017 15:07
Margus Meigo replied to Rauno Sammel's comment.
algselt oli mõeldud "ja" kuid kuisuur list huvitavat meeles on,siispane kuni ka : )
25 July 2017 15:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
/ not so wicked thought
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRKNw477onU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRKNw477onU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRKNw477onU
25 July 2017 15:04
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek J's comment.
Väga hästi informeeritud
Praegu, 2017 näiteks juhtunud juba mitukümmend suurt sündmust (rahandusministeerimumi ümberpaigutamine, telejaama ümberpaigutamine, teabeameti ümbernimetamine, omavalitsuste lõhkumine/ümberpaigutamine, Emapalju taga olevate asjaolud... isegi need võib "suure sündmuse" alla lisada. kuigi muudes tähendustes palju enam.. ), mõtlen, kas .. siis 1994 .. jah... see metsanduse asi ka vägagi oluline.
Ootan huviga veel mälestusi tolle aja ümbert!
Palju suuri muudatusi ikka siis tehakse kavalate poolt kui dramaatilised megauudised või muud eufooriat palju õhus, nagu ikka..
Laeva osas mul ammu üks puhkusel olev NSa vana tööline ütles, et "ega Sa ometi arva, et ilma pärast...? "
Praegu, 2017 näiteks juhtunud juba mitukümmend suurt sündmust (rahandusministeerimumi ümberpaigutamine, telejaama ümberpaigutamine, teabeameti ümbernimetamine, omavalitsuste lõhkumine/ümberpaigutamine, Emapalju taga olevate asjaolud... isegi need võib "suure sündmuse" alla lisada. kuigi muudes tähendustes palju enam.. ), mõtlen, kas .. siis 1994 .. jah... see metsanduse asi ka vägagi oluline.
Ootan huviga veel mälestusi tolle aja ümbert!
Palju suuri muudatusi ikka siis tehakse kavalate poolt kui dramaatilised megauudised või muud eufooriat palju õhus, nagu ikka..
Laeva osas mul ammu üks puhkusel olev NSa vana tööline ütles, et "ega Sa ometi arva, et ilma pärast...? "
24 July 2017 23:38
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Praun's comment.
palun proovi
24 July 2017 23:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(teisaipidi sarnases taktis, teist dimensiooni näitamas... arvestatavat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IyAGpooGko ... ainult neile muidugi avaldub sisu kes julgevad täis mahus arusaada, alustuspunktina, kaugeima puntina mis olla võiks, mida näed)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IyAGpooGko
24 July 2017 23:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see laul ka selline, et kui oled 3 korda vaadanud, siis aastaid hiljemgi veel, ikka avastad uusi detaile loo suuresplaanis tähendust, võttes arvesse kaugeimad mõtted mis meelega suht ... inmkonteksti panna.
nagu ma ütlesin, nad igalpool kaugetes kohtades, suht meienägu ja kitlites olnud...
nagu ma ütlesin, nad igalpool kaugetes kohtades, suht meienägu ja kitlites olnud...
24 July 2017 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ka kõik huvitavad sarjad, kuulujutud jms läheb arvesse.
Midaiganes mäletad, Twin Peaksi mäletad telekast ?
Midaiganes mäletad, Twin Peaksi mäletad telekast ?
24 July 2017 23:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
eriti 94 aeg, rahva meeletaduvses ringisobrades, tundub lünklik olema
tundub ainult, eks ega pea olema nii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaa-_-aC0uc
tundub ainult, eks ega pea olema nii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaa-_-aC0uc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaa-_-aC0uc
24 July 2017 23:04
Margus Meigo commented on Kaileen Mägi's photo.
Timm,
meil ka päris ilusad paisted: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212427445977947&set=a.10212427391936596.1073741884.1135161043&type=3&theater
meil ka päris ilusad paisted: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212427445977947&set=a.10212427391936596.1073741884.1135161043&type=3&theater
24 July 2017 22:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://blogs.bl.uk/digitisedmanuscripts/2012/08/finishing-the-smithfield-decretals.html
http://blogs.bl.uk/digitisedmanuscripts/2012/08/finishing-the-smithfield-decretals.html
24 July 2017 22:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
from here, 1300 hand made.. proper interesting illustrations, for a religious book // PS: pages are about half a meter tall
http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=royal_ms_10_e_iv_fs001r
http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=royal_ms_10_e_iv_fs001r
http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=royal_ms_10_e_iv_fs001r
24 July 2017 22:48
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Kuid Tiiu Kirsimägi vabandused avalikult ka siis,
ma liiga kohmakalt süüdistama asusin, et ju Sa naisena näitasid,/treenisid ainult seda mida ühiskond arvab ja mõtleb, et mind selles osas ette valmistada ja lasta ledlik vastus / väljapääs leida.
Kuid jah, näed, endalgi emotsioon võtab üle veel siis kui teamdistst puudu tuleb, et mida täpselt öelda, mis kõgile rahuldav oleks ja edasiviiv
ma liiga kohmakalt süüdistama asusin, et ju Sa naisena näitasid,/treenisid ainult seda mida ühiskond arvab ja mõtleb, et mind selles osas ette valmistada ja lasta ledlik vastus / väljapääs leida.
Kuid jah, näed, endalgi emotsioon võtab üle veel siis kui teamdistst puudu tuleb, et mida täpselt öelda, mis kõgile rahuldav oleks ja edasiviiv
24 July 2017 22:38
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Ma alati küsingi nagu küsimust, et MIKS 100% faktiga, mingisugused keskused, SELLISEID uudiseid ja fakte jagavad, et seda mõtet planeerida ja mõelda.. ja siis minnakse paanikat täis, ja hoopis ei tea milles süüdistama hakatakse.
Kuigi saab vist ka nii olla, et mina trükin ühte teksti kui osad inimesed loevad hoopis midagi muud, muu tähendusena..
Kuigi saab vist ka nii olla, et mina trükin ühte teksti kui osad inimesed loevad hoopis midagi muud, muu tähendusena..
24 July 2017 22:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Siin ta juba päris timm näeb välja
24 July 2017 22:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(Y) respect
24 July 2017 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Oot Sa eriti hängisid kohe taga :p :D
24 July 2017 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Oot saidki taga koos eraldi pildile ? .p
Nu vot kus manifest : )
Ise Sa küll suht timm, võttis aega enne kui sain aru kes Singuga sääl on
ja siis see text confirmis et on küll jah
illuminati confirmed :p
Nu vot kus manifest : )
Ise Sa küll suht timm, võttis aega enne kui sain aru kes Singuga sääl on
ja siis see text confirmis et on küll jah
illuminati confirmed :p
24 July 2017 22:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mul ka, tavaliselt juba peale esimest poolt tundi kui oma lauset alustanud olen, hakatakse vahele segama
tähelepänu võime lühiajaline vb inimestel suures osas kiirmeediaga
tähelepänu võime lühiajaline vb inimestel suures osas kiirmeediaga
24 July 2017 21:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et siis annunakid peaks orjastajad olema ja reptiilikad ( pildil vast siis ) peaks olema arengulabori siseasju teadjad.. ke ssaavad mis iganes kohasi valida, või endale keha moondada.. hmm.. kes neid teab mis see lugu neile loodud on,
siiani kõik tulnukad suht inimesenägu ikka keda näinud nii siin kui muudes vaimuilmades, sellsites suurustes mida siin archangeliteks kutsutakse.. ikka nad kandsid kitleid neis laborites ja... nu mine tea mis labor see oli aga tundus, nagu maa asjade regullimisega sääl tegeleti..
siiani kõik tulnukad suht inimesenägu ikka keda näinud nii siin kui muudes vaimuilmades, sellsites suurustes mida siin archangeliteks kutsutakse.. ikka nad kandsid kitleid neis laborites ja... nu mine tea mis labor see oli aga tundus, nagu maa asjade regullimisega sääl tegeleti..
24 July 2017 21:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
peaaegu peaaegu..
24 July 2017 21:16
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Kirsimägi's comment.
//las kirjailt olla, inimstele see osa mis tarvis, on neile täpselt arusaadav nii kuis vaja, vaiksel lugmeisel
24 July 2017 21:15
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Kirsimägi's comment.
Minuusust rääkides, on seline: MA TEEN MAAILMA NIIKORDA KUI SAAN
ja nende asjade list on VÄGA suur võrreldes mittemillegiga, mis mulle antud on, selle ilma korda tegemiseks,
milleks Sa oma lapsed kasvatad, lased neil ise otsustada v suunad nad, minig mõttega, et kuidas nad olema peaks, keda austama ja kuhu poole pürgima ?
Või lased telekal neil naiste austust arendada ja poliitikultel elusuundasi vorpida ?
Kurssis tuleb olla suurimate peae mõtlemistega ja planeeringutega, iidsete ja praeguste, tulevikulistega, et osata ennast ja oma last võimalikult jumalale kauslikuks teha,
Niisama käed ryppes seista ja puugina jumalalt head endale palvetades, ilma, et ise fyysiliselt midagi vastu teeks.. see vampiirlus peab lõppema sest uute tarkuste, koostöö ja armastuste, maaasutsuse suunaline areng on ellujääjatele meelepärane
ja nende asjade list on VÄGA suur võrreldes mittemillegiga, mis mulle antud on, selle ilma korda tegemiseks,
milleks Sa oma lapsed kasvatad, lased neil ise otsustada v suunad nad, minig mõttega, et kuidas nad olema peaks, keda austama ja kuhu poole pürgima ?
Või lased telekal neil naiste austust arendada ja poliitikultel elusuundasi vorpida ?
Kurssis tuleb olla suurimate peae mõtlemistega ja planeeringutega, iidsete ja praeguste, tulevikulistega, et osata ennast ja oma last võimalikult jumalale kauslikuks teha,
Niisama käed ryppes seista ja puugina jumalalt head endale palvetades, ilma, et ise fyysiliselt midagi vastu teeks.. see vampiirlus peab lõppema sest uute tarkuste, koostöö ja armastuste, maaasutsuse suunaline areng on ellujääjatele meelepärane
24 July 2017 21:14
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Kirsimägi's comment.
Kes siin MINU usust rääkis, ma ei ole ju rääkinud siin mida MA usun, ma räägin, mida SUURIMAD usu vood absoluutseks aluseks on seadnud, alates Vatikanist,
koostöös Õigeusuga, mis arvad, mis usuvoolud siin vast usaavad ?
Me räägime sellest, MIKS kogu internet sedamassiliselt ontäis ja MIKS massiliselt rohkem ja rohkme valitsuse kõrgetel austatud kohtadel teadlasi ja töölisi neid asju räägivad siiralt,
asju mile eest alles hiljuti kinni lukustati, töölt ammugi lahti lasti.. kuid igas vallas nüüd need jutud..
peame mõtlema strateegiliselt, MILLEKS ja MIKS seda tehakse.
Arusaama, ette planeerima, valmistuma,
koostöös Õigeusuga, mis arvad, mis usuvoolud siin vast usaavad ?
Me räägime sellest, MIKS kogu internet sedamassiliselt ontäis ja MIKS massiliselt rohkem ja rohkme valitsuse kõrgetel austatud kohtadel teadlasi ja töölisi neid asju räägivad siiralt,
asju mile eest alles hiljuti kinni lukustati, töölt ammugi lahti lasti.. kuid igas vallas nüüd need jutud..
peame mõtlema strateegiliselt, MILLEKS ja MIKS seda tehakse.
Arusaama, ette planeerima, valmistuma,
24 July 2017 21:10
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš Miks sa ütled, et peab teamdine olema muidu ei tule arusaamine ?
Mis sorty teamidsed need veel siis on, mida isegi kirjeldada ei saa, et neid kaudselt ära tunda,?
Kas oma lastele siis sa kunagi midagi õpetnaud ei ole , nad ise kõike õpivad ja arusaavad?
Või ikka paned miskid asjad järkjärgult paika mille piires ja mida kasutades ülejäänust laps pildi kokku paneb?
Miskeid asju jah... laps oskab ise.. aga ikka paljusi asju peab keegi esimest korda näitama ja tutuvustama,
Mis sorty teamidsed need veel siis on, mida isegi kirjeldada ei saa, et neid kaudselt ära tunda,?
Kas oma lastele siis sa kunagi midagi õpetnaud ei ole , nad ise kõike õpivad ja arusaavad?
Või ikka paned miskid asjad järkjärgult paika mille piires ja mida kasutades ülejäänust laps pildi kokku paneb?
Miskeid asju jah... laps oskab ise.. aga ikka paljusi asju peab keegi esimest korda näitama ja tutuvustama,
24 July 2017 21:09
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Ja räägime siis lihtsamaist,
Miks Tesla / Edysony osas tigeduse märgi panid,
räägime siis sellest, kas nad mõlemad olid tavalised maa inimesed su arvates? Mõlemad auväärsed, või inimpoolsed,
kes nad inimestena olid ja kumma üle Sul on parem meel?
Või oli nende mõlema teod, et meile elekter üldsetoodi, ülearune?
Misarvamus sul Tesla / Edysoni osas on ?
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Hästi paari sõnaga, kas ikka siis usud, tead, et on olemas peale tavapäraste "ahvist arenenud" inimeste miskit veel, meie liigi seas ja meie liike arendamas... või kõrgemaid valitsuse astmeid kes miskit maagiat või meile ulmelisena tunduvat katseid teevad.. või on enamus ikka suht tavaline ja selle sarnane, laadne, nagu tavapärane lehtede keskmine normaalsus momendil ,selles ajas?
// sorry, et peaaegu solvama hakkasin, kuid sellele upsakusele tuli piir panna, kus tatti pritsitakse vastuste asemel, mitte nõustuda, vastu olla ja kakelda on okey, senikaua kui oma reaktsiooniga ka mingi info kaasa tood, mis asja paremaks teeb, muidu ju totra odava solvanguna vastus tundub, mida iga robot / palgaline genereerida oskab , ilma, et oleks soovi teist või ennast arendada,
kogu need asjad siin on mõeldud ikka suurema vaatajaksonna ja arusaama jaoks, mitte me enda lõbuks
Miks Tesla / Edysony osas tigeduse märgi panid,
räägime siis sellest, kas nad mõlemad olid tavalised maa inimesed su arvates? Mõlemad auväärsed, või inimpoolsed,
kes nad inimestena olid ja kumma üle Sul on parem meel?
Või oli nende mõlema teod, et meile elekter üldsetoodi, ülearune?
Misarvamus sul Tesla / Edysoni osas on ?
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Hästi paari sõnaga, kas ikka siis usud, tead, et on olemas peale tavapäraste "ahvist arenenud" inimeste miskit veel, meie liigi seas ja meie liike arendamas... või kõrgemaid valitsuse astmeid kes miskit maagiat või meile ulmelisena tunduvat katseid teevad.. või on enamus ikka suht tavaline ja selle sarnane, laadne, nagu tavapärane lehtede keskmine normaalsus momendil ,selles ajas?
// sorry, et peaaegu solvama hakkasin, kuid sellele upsakusele tuli piir panna, kus tatti pritsitakse vastuste asemel, mitte nõustuda, vastu olla ja kakelda on okey, senikaua kui oma reaktsiooniga ka mingi info kaasa tood, mis asja paremaks teeb, muidu ju totra odava solvanguna vastus tundub, mida iga robot / palgaline genereerida oskab , ilma, et oleks soovi teist või ennast arendada,
kogu need asjad siin on mõeldud ikka suurema vaatajaksonna ja arusaama jaoks, mitte me enda lõbuks
24 July 2017 21:07
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Kõikide mu liigikaaslaste ja nende kes mu liigiga kokku puutub arvamus ja olemus küll väga oluline mulle, kui liigi ja elukoha kaaslastele, aitajatele, töölistele.
Selliseid vastuseid saad kui hakkad siin miskit jama üles pildumaja upsakust näitama
Selliseid vastuseid saad kui hakkad siin miskit jama üles pildumaja upsakust näitama
24 July 2017 21:01
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Te siis erinevad liigid,
nu selles tahtsingi kindel olla,
Muidu kui rääkida naistest, siis panen kõik ühte patta suure esimese hooga, kes niasena end esitleb
nu selles tahtsingi kindel olla,
Muidu kui rääkida naistest, siis panen kõik ühte patta suure esimese hooga, kes niasena end esitleb
24 July 2017 21:00
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
see kellel enam midagi tarka öelda ega lisada pole, siis täiesti teema väliselt ikka tuleb kirjapildi jms jaburdusega sisse,
kui reaalselt millegist oleksid tahtnud aru saada ja millegile vastata, siis oleksid sellest pihta hakanud, või viisakalt ütlenud, et millest aru ei saa, ülespoole vaadatnua saad ka näidet selles osas teha, kuidas sea teha.
Ja mis Narko asja sa siin ajad?
See TAVALINE vallutajate propakanda, et narko siin ja narko seal, sellist õsnagi kasutavad tulnukad enamasti, inimeste debiliseerimiseks
kui reaalselt millegist oleksid tahtnud aru saada ja millegile vastata, siis oleksid sellest pihta hakanud, või viisakalt ütlenud, et millest aru ei saa, ülespoole vaadatnua saad ka näidet selles osas teha, kuidas sea teha.
Ja mis Narko asja sa siin ajad?
See TAVALINE vallutajate propakanda, et narko siin ja narko seal, sellist õsnagi kasutavad tulnukad enamasti, inimeste debiliseerimiseks
24 July 2017 20:59
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Tiiu Kirsimägi nu näed "seda arvata oligi",
(sellise käitumise peale ma tavaliselt ütlen et:
" Sa pole arvatvasti siis ei Naine ega/või ka inimeste poolel kui selliste lausetega tuled, "
Ühesõnaga ei olnud midagi reaalselt öelda peale sopa üleslükkamise, elementaarne taktika.
Mis on neil trollidel.. kuid milleks SINA sedasi käitud siis ?
Selline käitumismaneeri küll ei soovi .. see ajab tähelepanu eemale ja asjad segamini, solgib teemat ja meeli ja mõtteid,
Kui midagi halba öelda, siis sinna otsa ikka infot ka!
/../
(sellise käitumise peale ma tavaliselt ütlen et:
" Sa pole arvatvasti siis ei Naine ega/või ka inimeste poolel kui selliste lausetega tuled, "
Ühesõnaga ei olnud midagi reaalselt öelda peale sopa üleslükkamise, elementaarne taktika.
Mis on neil trollidel.. kuid milleks SINA sedasi käitud siis ?
Selline käitumismaneeri küll ei soovi .. see ajab tähelepanu eemale ja asjad segamini, solgib teemat ja meeli ja mõtteid,
Kui midagi halba öelda, siis sinna otsa ikka infot ka!
/../
24 July 2017 20:57
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Ühesõnaga, alustuseks peaks küsima, kas Tiiu Kirsimägi ja Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš on sarnastel arusaamadel ?
24 July 2017 20:56
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Nu sedasi oskavad kommunistid ainult vett segada, et pillud tolmu ülese aga sis praktiliselt edasi ei soovi liikuda, et puntkt punkti haaval mis oli valesti ja kuidas on paremini,
see ei võta NII kaua aega, et algus kirjagi panna, proovi
see ei võta NII kaua aega, et algus kirjagi panna, proovi
24 July 2017 20:53
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Kirsimägi's comment.
Tiiu Kirsimägi Nagu Sa enne jumala osas ütlesid, samamoodi peaks küsima:
KES oled Sina, et sellist teadvust tead end omavat, kes suudab olla teadlik, sellest mida Sul näha lubatakse ja mida mitte,
Ja miks nad Ennast Sulle näitama peaks, ja kas oled soovinud näha ?
KES oled Sina, et sellist teadvust tead end omavat, kes suudab olla teadlik, sellest mida Sul näha lubatakse ja mida mitte,
Ja miks nad Ennast Sulle näitama peaks, ja kas oled soovinud näha ?
24 July 2017 20:53
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Tiiu Kirsimägi Selgita nüüd Tiiu,
24 July 2017 20:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The novel is written in one long sentence / 128 pages "
24 July 2017 20:50
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Kirsimägi's comment.
Nu seda peab kirikupappide käest küsima, nad tea paremini vist?
Vatikan pidi kummardama täiesti Sumeri kirju ja asju, eks ajaliselt pea ka paika...
kuid ikka siin on osasi, kes arvavad, et nad muust ajast...
ja siis vast isegi maanaised... nakide naised... muud tulnarite naised... et kes kus kelle võin algab ja kust lõppeb ?
Vatikan pidi kummardama täiesti Sumeri kirju ja asju, eks ajaliselt pea ka paika...
kuid ikka siin on osasi, kes arvavad, et nad muust ajast...
ja siis vast isegi maanaised... nakide naised... muud tulnarite naised... et kes kus kelle võin algab ja kust lõppeb ?
24 July 2017 20:41
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Kumb on suurema kurjuse liigid, lutherlased , juudi vihkajast, naiste põlastaja Maertin Lueri protestantlik liin või siis Vatikani liin.. v kui vatiknai liin valeon siis miks Vene õigeusu liin poleselle vastu tõusta julgend..
24 July 2017 20:40
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Ühesõnaga siis miks Vatikan seda asja promob ?
Kas Õigeusk Jääb selle aluspõhja vastu alatiseks ?
Vaadates suurt vene ilma promo kes maeerika tulnuka lugusi promob suure hooga.. siis eriti ei arva, et nad päris vastu...
Pealegi lubasid nad ju ise avada pildid kui teised ei ava.. nu ma ei saa muidugi ise aru mida nad veel ootavad aga..
Kas Õigeusk Jääb selle aluspõhja vastu alatiseks ?
Vaadates suurt vene ilma promo kes maeerika tulnuka lugusi promob suure hooga.. siis eriti ei arva, et nad päris vastu...
Pealegi lubasid nad ju ise avada pildid kui teised ei ava.. nu ma ei saa muidugi ise aru mida nad veel ootavad aga..
24 July 2017 20:39
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Ja kummal pool need olevused töötavad: Tesla vs. Edison
https://vimeo.com/104121286
(minut 36 vs. suts enne minut 42...)
(et vb SEE elektri versioon ikka ei olud parim ja olin suur trikk ja propakanda lõpkokuvõttes... kogu see asi umes nagu parem ja vasak pool poliitikas.. )
https://vimeo.com/104121286
(minut 36 vs. suts enne minut 42...)
(et vb SEE elektri versioon ikka ei olud parim ja olin suur trikk ja propakanda lõpkokuvõttes... kogu see asi umes nagu parem ja vasak pool poliitikas.. )
https://vimeo.com/104121286
24 July 2017 20:32
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
for a moment i thought they say in beginning something like "lets have a blunt/joint"
24 July 2017 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
xD
24 July 2017 20:27
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
nagu sõna otseses mõttes v..
24 July 2017 20:26
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
harsh truth
24 July 2017 20:24
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Jumala aitamine on ELEMENTAARNE MIINIMUM milleks siin on inimene,
see kõige valem ja vääram asi mida öelda, et
" Et nagu nii nadi Jumal sul, et vajab sinu abi? "
eriti veel minu,
ei tea mida te teised siin teete
see kõige valem ja vääram asi mida öelda, et
" Et nagu nii nadi Jumal sul, et vajab sinu abi? "
eriti veel minu,
ei tea mida te teised siin teete
24 July 2017 20:21
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
24 July 2017 20:19
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
24 July 2017 20:14
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
24 July 2017 19:40
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
kuid see viimane mu algne analyysi esimesi tunentusi aint
24 July 2017 19:39
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Ma pidevalt eeldanud, et nad südamepoolsed ja algsemad maal anunnakidest ja loogislet võttes nad peaks nagu algse elektroonika välise jumalalähedase võlutehnoloogia, armastuseosas lähedasemad olema
24 July 2017 19:39
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
elementaarsed bookletid selle osas, kuidas unedes ära tunda ja millistesse unedesse kuidas minna, milliste palvetega sidumine parjasjägu effektiivne on jne,
tallinaTV laseks raudslt eetrisse ka kriisiajal
etsi häält varemgi pigistanud vajalikul ajal, ja siis teeme seegikord seda kui tarvis, juba suuremas mastaabis
// et kui kunagi etkar eestlaste poolt rääkima sunniti, et ta selle hyydeteeks, sest meil ta häält vaja oli, siis seda ta ka tegi, sest kartis mitte, poleks mõeldav olnud mitte kuna varisematu impeerium hajus... kuid impeerium muud moodi ennast ümber ja läbi meist keeranud..
tallinaTV laseks raudslt eetrisse ka kriisiajal
etsi häält varemgi pigistanud vajalikul ajal, ja siis teeme seegikord seda kui tarvis, juba suuremas mastaabis
// et kui kunagi etkar eestlaste poolt rääkima sunniti, et ta selle hyydeteeks, sest meil ta häält vaja oli, siis seda ta ka tegi, sest kartis mitte, poleks mõeldav olnud mitte kuna varisematu impeerium hajus... kuid impeerium muud moodi ennast ümber ja läbi meist keeranud..
24 July 2017 19:37
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
// ja mida siis teha, baasi ära märkida, kui mingi vale rebtiili teesklev ufa siin kellegi ebaausate võtetega rajalt maha võtnud
24 July 2017 19:36
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
nu näed hakkab pihta,
st, (sina meeldiv, st ma jätkan)
et MIKS kõik ei sünni ja kuidas saame kaasa aidata reguleerimisele, et õigemad sünniks rohkem ja ebavahjalikud vähem ?
Peale selle, et naistele slegeks yle maa tehha, mediteeritud suunitlustega rasedus elementaarseks normiks teha ning see ka kellega voodisse lastakse ennast
st, (sina meeldiv, st ma jätkan)
et MIKS kõik ei sünni ja kuidas saame kaasa aidata reguleerimisele, et õigemad sünniks rohkem ja ebavahjalikud vähem ?
Peale selle, et naistele slegeks yle maa tehha, mediteeritud suunitlustega rasedus elementaarseks normiks teha ning see ka kellega voodisse lastakse ennast
24 July 2017 19:34
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Nu sellised tegevused ple ju nomid:
http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/12/lizard-men-abducted-me-to-the-moon-for-sex-woman-claims-5434998/
ei nende kirjutmaine kui pole alust ja ei nende tegemine kui on
http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/12/lizard-men-abducted-me-to-the-moon-for-sex-woman-claims-5434998/
ei nende kirjutmaine kui pole alust ja ei nende tegemine kui on
http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/12/lizard-men-abducted-me-to-the-moon-for-sex-woman-claims-5434998/
24 July 2017 19:33
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
teamdised taastuvad, siis saad rääkida / telepaadis üle saata zippitult vms ?
24 July 2017 19:32
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
kuidas ellu jääda nendel kellel vaja
24 July 2017 19:32
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
ükskõik kus sügavamalt midagi küsima hakkad.. siis nii harv kui rohkem kui kolm neli lauset tuleb asjade olemuse ja edasise tegevuse ning tõestuste osas, mida siis logiliselt edasi peaks tegema ja teadma, et mis me ümber on ja kuidas,
24 July 2017 19:31
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
sõprussuhted, põhjused ja konflitki põhjustajad ja lahendused ning kes ja kuidas on õiguses, millise vaneima õigusejärgu järgi
24 July 2017 19:29
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
see kes individuaalselt on, see mulle vähe huvitav,
mulle huvitav nende olulisemad alg ja arvatvad lõpp suunad ning kontaktid
mulle huvitav nende olulisemad alg ja arvatvad lõpp suunad ning kontaktid
24 July 2017 19:29
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
ei nu mul aega nüüd käia siin igatyhte silma vahtimas
mul vaja kollektiivseid teadmisi, milleks te siin siis olete kui mitte sellejaoks, et kõike teada ja aru saada, et sasime asjad käilku panna mida vaja
mul vaja kollektiivseid teadmisi, milleks te siin siis olete kui mitte sellejaoks, et kõike teada ja aru saada, et sasime asjad käilku panna mida vaja
24 July 2017 19:25
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Kui Sa midagi ei ütle ja kirja ei pane.. siis kaks põhjust, kas oled hirmu valitsuse all ja kardad,
mis on okey, kui see Sulle ohtlik ole mõtet .. sest .. nu ma ise ikka rhkem Jumalaga arvestan ja usun, et enamuses kartmise ajastu praegu pole ,jagamise ja valmistumise, kuni veel saab
või siis veel paar müstilist valikut,
sh. ka see,et tegelikult ei tea või pole sellel poolel kellel oleks sobilik rääkida...
mis on okey, kui see Sulle ohtlik ole mõtet .. sest .. nu ma ise ikka rhkem Jumalaga arvestan ja usun, et enamuses kartmise ajastu praegu pole ,jagamise ja valmistumise, kuni veel saab
või siis veel paar müstilist valikut,
sh. ka see,et tegelikult ei tea või pole sellel poolel kellel oleks sobilik rääkida...
24 July 2017 19:24
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
ikka enda kaudu
kuid kuidas siis teistega on, enamustel inimestel on neil kudias on, aga minu toimetamiste osas mul vaja teada mis grup mis suunaline kelle arvates,
et kui saad nende ja omavahelistest perspektiividest ka ülevaated anda üksteise osas,see oleks hea, tei lnaistel kindlasti meeled sees kaugel igapool
kuid kuidas siis teistega on, enamustel inimestel on neil kudias on, aga minu toimetamiste osas mul vaja teada mis grup mis suunaline kelle arvates,
et kui saad nende ja omavahelistest perspektiividest ka ülevaated anda üksteise osas,see oleks hea, tei lnaistel kindlasti meeled sees kaugel igapool
24 July 2017 19:23
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Ole hea pane väike kogukirjeldus kirja, vasutsesse meile,
maalaste alg ja hilisemate põhiversioonide osas ja kireldused nakkide ja reptiilide alguse ja praeguse positsiooni osas taimetoitlaste/liblikate/hapuoblikate suunaliste osas.
(et kas need kolm, on kõigile neile kolmele, ja muudele olulises väärtuses ja miks, mis tasemel, v on mõnel omad soovid)
maalaste alg ja hilisemate põhiversioonide osas ja kireldused nakkide ja reptiilide alguse ja praeguse positsiooni osas taimetoitlaste/liblikate/hapuoblikate suunaliste osas.
(et kas need kolm, on kõigile neile kolmele, ja muudele olulises väärtuses ja miks, mis tasemel, v on mõnel omad soovid)
24 July 2017 19:21
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Asuu, vot hoopis uue suuna siin võtnud ja suund endiselt saab olla kristlik Juudilik,
Nei lsee uskumus ju ka selge, et tuldi just siia maala, et sünniti madalaimasse ilma, et siin kõik korda saaks, et paradis oleks väärt olmemist / Jumalat aidata, ilma korda tegemiseks
Nei lsee uskumus ju ka selge, et tuldi just siia maala, et sünniti madalaimasse ilma, et siin kõik korda saaks, et paradis oleks väärt olmemist / Jumalat aidata, ilma korda tegemiseks
24 July 2017 19:19
Margus Meigo replied to Maryam Vela's comment.
i mean.. not in That way but... u know..
24 July 2017 19:15
Margus Meigo replied to Maryam Vela's comment.
U know me https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212583202551764
24 July 2017 19:15
Margus Meigo replied to Maryam Vela's comment.
:D
24 July 2017 19:01
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Kirsimägi's comment.
kummnad need jumalalapsed on, orjastajad anunnakid v maalastest algelanikud südamega reptiilid ?
(või on nad südametud just, mone muu propakanda najal... )
(või on nad südametud just, mone muu propakanda najal... )
24 July 2017 19:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
who is She anyway ,
Hmmm
Hmmm
24 July 2017 05:51
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
NEWER let breaknant wife PICK UP BOXES!!!
"probably only time i use cocacola / pepsi " hahah good one
Can we become government regulating, Tools for that, Mark, E-Gov from Estonia on MDMA (on shrooms eventually), etc.
I got dreams , ideas for that: gov / personal life regulating tools ideas from long time, code tuned by the social sensitive side.
As what is the FINAL aim, of the Code, this is the direction that will win all other platforms and codes, who gets in to there, complete: what humans want and need most!
Love to Your family!
Give OLD Time grilling a taste also, in wild nature, few nights!
With no timers and measurements of C's, as no city boy
// O boy.. meat is so much work, and in the end... for so much effort, does not give so much benefit in return.. talking about sustainable. Meat is just taste addiction, that out of love, we can leave.. ..
I know, it is like talking about cigarettes to a smoker..or about politics to a communists.. but this really is one of the things, that eventually have to go , away. (need for global massive meat / dead body / some body eating, ... but for the value of the video, in total, this is great and worth every scale, we also made natural cooked meat, that is old ritual, next to our yearly master fire )
"probably only time i use cocacola / pepsi " hahah good one
Can we become government regulating, Tools for that, Mark, E-Gov from Estonia on MDMA (on shrooms eventually), etc.
I got dreams , ideas for that: gov / personal life regulating tools ideas from long time, code tuned by the social sensitive side.
As what is the FINAL aim, of the Code, this is the direction that will win all other platforms and codes, who gets in to there, complete: what humans want and need most!
Love to Your family!
Give OLD Time grilling a taste also, in wild nature, few nights!
With no timers and measurements of C's, as no city boy
// O boy.. meat is so much work, and in the end... for so much effort, does not give so much benefit in return.. talking about sustainable. Meat is just taste addiction, that out of love, we can leave.. ..
I know, it is like talking about cigarettes to a smoker..or about politics to a communists.. but this really is one of the things, that eventually have to go , away. (need for global massive meat / dead body / some body eating, ... but for the value of the video, in total, this is great and worth every scale, we also made natural cooked meat, that is old ritual, next to our yearly master fire )
24 July 2017 03:24
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
"probably only time i use cocacola / pepsi " hahah :p good one
Can we become government regulating, Tools for that, Mark, E-Gov from Estonia on MDMA (on shrooms eventually), etc.
I got dreams , ideas for that gov / personal life regulating tools ideas from long time, code tuned by the social sensitive side.
As what is the FINAL aim, of the Code, this is the direction that will win all other platforms and codes, who gets in to there, complete: what humans want and need most!
Love to Your family!
Give OLD Time grilling a taste also, in wild nature, few nights!
With no timers and measurements of C's, as no city boy :p
// O boy.. meat is so much work, and in the end... for so much effort, does not give so much benefit in return.. talking about sustainable. Meat is just taste addiction, that out of love, we can leave.. ..
I know, it is like talking about cigarettes to a smoker..or about politics to a communists.. but this really is one of the things, that eventually have to go , away. (need for global massive meat / dead body / some body eating, ... but for the value of the video, in total, this is great and worth every scale, we also made natural cooked meat, that is old ritual, next to our yearly master fire )
Can we become government regulating, Tools for that, Mark, E-Gov from Estonia on MDMA (on shrooms eventually), etc.
I got dreams , ideas for that gov / personal life regulating tools ideas from long time, code tuned by the social sensitive side.
As what is the FINAL aim, of the Code, this is the direction that will win all other platforms and codes, who gets in to there, complete: what humans want and need most!
Love to Your family!
Give OLD Time grilling a taste also, in wild nature, few nights!
With no timers and measurements of C's, as no city boy :p
// O boy.. meat is so much work, and in the end... for so much effort, does not give so much benefit in return.. talking about sustainable. Meat is just taste addiction, that out of love, we can leave.. ..
I know, it is like talking about cigarettes to a smoker..or about politics to a communists.. but this really is one of the things, that eventually have to go , away. (need for global massive meat / dead body / some body eating, ... but for the value of the video, in total, this is great and worth every scale, we also made natural cooked meat, that is old ritual, next to our yearly master fire )
24 July 2017 03:23
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's life event.
Poo :p
http://www.metaphysicalzone.com/china/boar2.shtml
http://www.metaphysicalzone.com/china/boar2.shtml
http://www.metaphysicalzone.com/china/boar2.shtml
24 July 2017 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
https://www.facebook.com/4/posts/10100171116198561/ Comment on taht , mark , about you Vegetarianism ? Was no benafit ?
24 July 2017 03:12
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
Yeah.. cooking entire Pig is delicious you say...
https://www.facebook.com/4/posts/10100171116198561/
Wild Water Pig:
http://www.metaphysicalzone.com/china/boar2.shtml ...
https://www.facebook.com/4/posts/10100171116198561/
Wild Water Pig:
http://www.metaphysicalzone.com/china/boar2.shtml ...
24 July 2017 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
TO ACCESS to WATER, ..
what about that dear : )
what about that dear : )
24 July 2017 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
Someday,
in remote woods, can make Live as that,
got good places here also for woods grillings (well, sure USA are not missing for a great woods, so... try to invoke some woods love in people as well) : )
(look in album the sunrise pictures Loosalu Järv )
in remote woods, can make Live as that,
got good places here also for woods grillings (well, sure USA are not missing for a great woods, so... try to invoke some woods love in people as well) : )
(look in album the sunrise pictures Loosalu Järv )
24 July 2017 02:44
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
Yea, need to do, in woods also,
24 July 2017 02:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Argh, video cuts off so many times,
Now back online again, almost
Now back online again, almost
24 July 2017 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
SMS morse?
24 July 2017 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
what is this pingings
24 July 2017 02:35
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
Golden Words, about responsibility !
24 July 2017 02:34
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
Mark, we NEED to change how people think and live, then, THEN they will be parents for healthy child.
24 July 2017 02:32
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
this is perfect, good direction. Also need to be protected against another infiltrator ides , as Greek-Roman system/ideology that is against Women and against Earth, is alienating
But yes think in REALLY big term ... including , taking in to account other ....
//oh no, illness can not go away with tech , plants is needed and God
But yes think in REALLY big term ... including , taking in to account other ....
//oh no, illness can not go away with tech , plants is needed and God
24 July 2017 02:30
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
i got it, i ca direct how to build it, Sur! i really can!
24 July 2017 02:25
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
Greetings from Estonia country side, we in Earth Believers in year 10230 : )
i am reeeealy rural, as u can see https://www.flickr.com/photos/waffa/albums/72157683972380133/with/35256003814/
i am reeeealy rural, as u can see https://www.flickr.com/photos/waffa/albums/72157683972380133/with/35256003814/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/waffa/albums/72157683972380133/with/35256003814/
24 July 2017 02:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
24 July 2017 02:14
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
Greet greetings to Priscilla, Girl, fantastic!
So Lovely You do that mark, this makes life more alive.
This is SO normal, Company (Human relationship) is safe if You keep your life so!
So Lovely You do that mark, this makes life more alive.
This is SO normal, Company (Human relationship) is safe if You keep your life so!
24 July 2017 02:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Booooooo, talking about eating meat!
24 July 2017 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
Will we making FB the proper DATE feature (got many insides, how to make it Matriarchy'c), so we can save the Love :))
// Okey not to much work, on Your day off,
Did You try vegan grill (some of them fooled my brother that it is best chicken :p ) ?
You blessed Mark to have Asian kitchen also in home!
// Okey not to much work, on Your day off,
Did You try vegan grill (some of them fooled my brother that it is best chicken :p ) ?
You blessed Mark to have Asian kitchen also in home!
24 July 2017 02:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kas see nüüd on kristlik käsitlus, et kuul ja mujal planeetides uutes dimensioonides on omamoodi elud ajast ees või taga,
seda peab uurima,
oleks hea teada
seda peab uurima,
oleks hea teada
24 July 2017 01:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
seekokkkupõrge saab väga põnev olema
24 July 2017 01:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
päris jõker suur lahksuund sellise jutu peale õpilaste vahel saab tulla,
hullarite ja selgemeelsete pool, ühe poole arvates kohe kindlasti
hullarite ja selgemeelsete pool, ühe poole arvates kohe kindlasti
24 July 2017 01:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Alguses arvasin, et ta seda teemat Rääkis Kirikus, see juba oli suur samm, kuid kooliõpilastele, see omamoodi tase. Hmm
24 July 2017 01:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"venelane ütles, et kui te ei avalikusta siis avalikustame ise"
Nu miks te siis ei avalikusta xD Xd
Vaata.. aga kes see siis ESIMESENA julgeb, kes ..
Nu miks te siis ei avalikusta xD Xd
Vaata.. aga kes see siis ESIMESENA julgeb, kes ..
24 July 2017 01:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kui maa seisab päikese ees
kui varjata tundeid ei saa (hmm.. see ka kuuvarjutus, sellele nüüd siis peab mõtlema, kuidas nii)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEc19rkkMdg
kui varjata tundeid ei saa (hmm.. see ka kuuvarjutus, sellele nüüd siis peab mõtlema, kuidas nii)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEc19rkkMdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEc19rkkMdg
24 July 2017 01:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi ma mõtlesin, et ka tema peaks sügavamalt,
24 July 2017 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Et nagu..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4IjJav7xbg&index=7&list=RD_Lya2TeOiSI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4IjJav7xbg&index=7&list=RD_Lya2TeOiSI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4IjJav7xbg&index=7&list=RD_Lya2TeOiSI
24 July 2017 01:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Johnnie Little nu jah nuh :D
22 July 2017 23:57
Margus Meigo commented on Sander Laanemaa's post.
Group: Men and Women Against Feminism
Girl named Maria (name changed, can be any woman name) :
Took a few drops of a man sperm and made man out of it who was able to take hes sperm put inside another woman who was able to give birth to Edyson,Tesla, & other Gregory's22 July 2017 23:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Rohelised lootspilliga veel vahvamad! "
Oi, see oli Austria, nu pole siis ka ime!
reaalseid inimliike veel on alles paljudes kohtaes! "
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212560054413075
Oi, see oli Austria, nu pole siis ka ime!
reaalseid inimliike veel on alles paljudes kohtaes! "
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212560054413075
22 July 2017 23:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"#eurovision okey, Slovenia #Slovenia with a blakc magic (darkforces/spells) guy won ... giving a lot of justification to "the force" // girls was also good"
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212560379221195
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212560379221195
22 July 2017 23:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"#eurovison
THis is sure #Weilsh is winnging, // by Now
Wau, UK, way to to :p // Need meie genialooga naismaterial, inim palana nad väärt hinged // Estonia Second :;P"
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212559956770634
THis is sure #Weilsh is winnging, // by Now
Wau, UK, way to to :p // Need meie genialooga naismaterial, inim palana nad väärt hinged // Estonia Second :;P"
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212559956770634
22 July 2017 23:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"#eurovisioon Muidugi Sinumust valge uue hea lipu kujundusega #Lithuania Läti Seljataga... on nagu eeldad,ka päris hea! Top ikkagi ka, elementaarne"
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212560121254746
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212560121254746
22 July 2017 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Fantastic, German sings "African Call" in fusion Jazz style as first competition, competing with natural Africans
#chorus #europe #eurovisioon #koorilaul
Who would have that coming"
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212559740045216
#chorus #europe #eurovisioon #koorilaul
Who would have that coming"
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212559740045216
22 July 2017 23:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
reaalseid inimliike veel on alles paljudes kohtaes!
22 July 2017 22:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oi, see oli Austria, nu pole siis ka ime!
22 July 2017 22:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but yea, generally, to perfect,
// would still choose Tormis just in case
// would still choose Tormis just in case
22 July 2017 22:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and their third song also, a bit to shart in end edges,
but in generally, first idealistic thing ... just first song, second part .,was repeting, can imaginbe if this masterpeace would have evolved from there a bit..
but in generally, first idealistic thing ... just first song, second part .,was repeting, can imaginbe if this masterpeace would have evolved from there a bit..
22 July 2017 22:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
felt like third..
Well, they good, Võilille laul ka tundus olema
Well, they good, Võilille laul ka tundus olema
22 July 2017 22:20
Margus Meigo commented on Mets Jeesus's photo.
Huvitav mis tarkusi ta kannab
22 July 2017 19:51
Margus Meigo commented on Siim Välman's post.
Tuttav Kuidagi!
22 July 2017 19:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but for you it must not be,can just be temporally pic as so, so yea, spice your self up with microdosing of psy dellics and touch the God
22 July 2017 18:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
picture, one self, is many all ways from natural nice, to sexy to /..../
But yes, i focus the sadnes, as
most of the models that i see in these days, or maybe also old ones,
They so sad..
But yes, i focus the sadnes, as
most of the models that i see in these days, or maybe also old ones,
They so sad..
22 July 2017 18:28
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's photo.
Wait a minute,, was that Your lip color or is that make up?
Kind of looks with this photocolor so makeupish just on lips...,
and sad also, really rally sad..
Kind of looks with this photocolor so makeupish just on lips...,
and sad also, really rally sad..
22 July 2017 18:26
Margus Meigo commented on Bisage Hatuev's photo.
lucky that i am not an English poet
22 July 2017 18:22
Margus Meigo commented on Bisage Hatuev's photo.
Is it near home ?
22 July 2017 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on Vahur Kala's post.
Alles nüüd ärgatakse, leht vist juba varsti 70'nd aastat trükis olnud.
Nu jah, parem kunagi kui mitte iial,
VB ene aju oli alla igasugust arvestust, et ei osatud vaadata läbi konservatiivse filtri kes ja mida ja miks räägivad.
See umbes sama hea, kui "avastada", et müürileht ehk on vabamüürlastega seotud..
Nu jah, parem kunagi kui mitte iial,
VB ene aju oli alla igasugust arvestust, et ei osatud vaadata läbi konservatiivse filtri kes ja mida ja miks räägivad.
See umbes sama hea, kui "avastada", et müürileht ehk on vabamüürlastega seotud..
22 July 2017 16:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Waou, mingi hoopis lisalugu veel avanes mitme muu loo otsa, sellel päeval, eila siis, kolm suurt lugu vast isegi,
kuid eks ma proovi need nüüd kuidagi ära selgitada, seletada ,kui tõeks kõik osutub ja täide saab, tehtud ja valmis, et selgitust näidata
kuid eks ma proovi need nüüd kuidagi ära selgitada, seletada ,kui tõeks kõik osutub ja täide saab, tehtud ja valmis, et selgitust näidata
22 July 2017 05:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
xD @Kalle Palling xD
"Puhta vorstipidu, oleks nagu ETV's" :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bSZlJNlD2k
"Puhta vorstipidu, oleks nagu ETV's" :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bSZlJNlD2k
22 July 2017 05:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
liiga hea, et olla reaalne.
nii elusana, nagu oleks mantis
nii elusana, nagu oleks mantis
22 July 2017 05:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei ma päriselt, pole päris veendunud,
(sada protsenti pole veendunud, kas skets v mitte )
(sada protsenti pole veendunud, kas skets v mitte )
22 July 2017 05:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"ma saan ka ise hakkama munade praadimise ja omletiga! - ega see asi nii hull siin polegi..."
22 July 2017 05:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Jõulisi skulptuure, see vist on päris mitte skets
https://youtu.be/QxY11POITyc
https://youtu.be/QxY11POITyc
https://youtu.be/QxY11POITyc
22 July 2017 05:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
22 July 2017 02:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
as a human, will look, might be in luck and is good human,
but anyone can understand the serious play of nastiness one have to make up to be able to run and manage in these scale business deals
as the USA best man in Russia
or is this kind of corporate environment environment friendly
or is it friendly ?
but anyone can understand the serious play of nastiness one have to make up to be able to run and manage in these scale business deals
as the USA best man in Russia
or is this kind of corporate environment environment friendly
or is it friendly ?
22 July 2017 02:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
they want us to enter in to politics also,
but do they really realize what would we do,
if we do really well coordinated eventful event
but do they really realize what would we do,
if we do really well coordinated eventful event
22 July 2017 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
22 July 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
22 July 2017 02:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Selline uus tasand, ühest aknast sedasi, sedakaudu teise aknasse pääsenime, on Windosi ja Portaalid kes selles süsteemis töötavad, neile päris lihtne,
Muidugi eks ma proovi aidata selle kõigeni jõudmises ennast edasi, et siis mind tundvad teaks või "In rturn" mina teaks nende hulgast /
ja mingitpidi, tudub, et maapealse matemaatikaga, või nu nagu natuke planeeriva v õrnalt kalkuleeriva ajuga, saab maailma paremaks kõigutada küll, kui teatud sorti teadmisi /.../
Muidugi eks ma proovi aidata selle kõigeni jõudmises ennast edasi, et siis mind tundvad teaks või "In rturn" mina teaks nende hulgast /
ja mingitpidi, tudub, et maapealse matemaatikaga, või nu nagu natuke planeeriva v õrnalt kalkuleeriva ajuga, saab maailma paremaks kõigutada küll, kui teatud sorti teadmisi /.../
22 July 2017 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
22 July 2017 01:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// mõtteainet
22 July 2017 00:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see varjant muidugi informatiivsev: https://youtu.be/e2uMVLFa25g :p
See vb lausa siimu enda senaristiga peaaegu, et tehtud
(st, selliseid asj utehakse ikka, ise, inimeste endi poolt, tellimustel, et mingi info vajadus ära rahuldada ja aluspinda sättida paremaski suunas, kuid turvaliselt)
See vb lausa siimu enda senaristiga peaaegu, et tehtud
(st, selliseid asj utehakse ikka, ise, inimeste endi poolt, tellimustel, et mingi info vajadus ära rahuldada ja aluspinda sättida paremaski suunas, kuid turvaliselt)
https://youtu.be/e2uMVLFa25g
22 July 2017 00:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kas on inimliike keda nad on veel rohkem muu riigina tundma õppinud, siseasjade ja toimiiste osas vaeva näinud ja sisse elanud, kui Eesti?
Üsna suure tähelepanuga ikka selles osas, oleme olnud..
aww.. see arRrmas video tuli, kus aluses oli suts häiriv, et ajakirjanik sedasi kiusas Siim Kallas't kuid ju Siimul oli vb info et kommunistlikud alged tulevad minig mustmaise jaoks infot saama (eelmises, alguses, mainitud agentuuride osas)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J59DECQ7grE
Üsna suure tähelepanuga ikka selles osas, oleme olnud..
aww.. see arRrmas video tuli, kus aluses oli suts häiriv, et ajakirjanik sedasi kiusas Siim Kallas't kuid ju Siimul oli vb info et kommunistlikud alged tulevad minig mustmaise jaoks infot saama (eelmises, alguses, mainitud agentuuride osas)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J59DECQ7grE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J59DECQ7grE
22 July 2017 00:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kui peaks keegi venemaalt teenust ostma või venemaal endal ka rohkem kui huvi olema, midagi sellist läbi viia, sis nendel kõige paremad eeltingimused kogu info osas mis vaeva nähtud meie tundma õppimisel
22 July 2017 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nagu näiteks, nende töömastaabis, oleks TAVALINE
sellisel tasemel asjade läbiviimine, kohtades kus neil ligipääs on,
meie riigi kõrgkohti kõige edukamalt analüüsides tellida lisaks muule olukord, kus riiki esindava inimese kohta saaks üle maa rääkida, tema kui riigiga otseselt seotud oleva inimesega, kes nagu mingit pidigi oleks reaalse Eestimaise ja EestiMEELSE inimeste esindaja, kellest saab rääkida kui " Eestlasest / Eestlastest "
muudes seltskondades, Eestimaa üldise pildi kuvandi esimeseks emotsiooni loomiseks,
Eriti nende silmis kes eriti polnud varem Eesti asjadest mõelnud ja Eestlastest.
Kuid kes nüüd tagantjärgi... mine tea, isegi vanad Siim Kallase kõned üsna robustsed/konarlikud/kobalikud (nagu mure kaeraküpsis) nüüd tunduvad ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar1kKmr3TBo ), ja mitte enam armsa harudlase Eesti aksendina...
Et jah, lühi mõte kokkuvõtvalt: "Kultuuri läbi" üleliikseid maid likvideerivate ühendustele on lihtne organiseeerida 15 aasta plaani seas esindusliidriks selleks ajaks inimesi kes lisaks riigivastaste osade käikude takistajate osas saab kasuks tulle kui ka kõigele ilisaks oma olemusega võtab empaatia võime riigi osas ära, eriti kui nähakse vaeva veel tema loomuse alumisi salajasi piire välja meelitades, et neid siis suust suhu ringkondades jagada Eestlastest kui "sellistest" meelsust kujundades..
Kui otsestele pahadele tegudele ei saa, ja eraelus alat iisegi alkoholi joomisega vahele ei jää rohkem kui äärmisel juhul seltskondlik tagasihoidlik viisakas "võta pits ja pea aru" ...
siis lihtsalt isikliku olemus enda nõrgemiad külgi, mõjutama hakatakse, kasvõi palgatud uss naiste või alaliste kultustega seotud olevate naiste läbi,
kes saavad uued instruktsioonid mida ja kellest "Juhuslikult" rääkida mingis leitud nõrkuse vormis,
see jõuab mehele alateadvusesse, ja siis omakorda kujundab meelepilti ette juba teiste seas ja hulgas
elementaarsed asjad ka mida salateensitused teevad omades hulga lõbunaisi või inflatreerdies lobunaiste kasutmaist ajutiselt kasvõi röövides originaal naised ja oma naised asemele pannes kui mudu ei saa firma äraostmise või sisse töötmamise läbi.
sellisel tasemel asjade läbiviimine, kohtades kus neil ligipääs on,
meie riigi kõrgkohti kõige edukamalt analüüsides tellida lisaks muule olukord, kus riiki esindava inimese kohta saaks üle maa rääkida, tema kui riigiga otseselt seotud oleva inimesega, kes nagu mingit pidigi oleks reaalse Eestimaise ja EestiMEELSE inimeste esindaja, kellest saab rääkida kui " Eestlasest / Eestlastest "
muudes seltskondades, Eestimaa üldise pildi kuvandi esimeseks emotsiooni loomiseks,
Eriti nende silmis kes eriti polnud varem Eesti asjadest mõelnud ja Eestlastest.
Kuid kes nüüd tagantjärgi... mine tea, isegi vanad Siim Kallase kõned üsna robustsed/konarlikud/kobalikud (nagu mure kaeraküpsis) nüüd tunduvad ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar1kKmr3TBo ), ja mitte enam armsa harudlase Eesti aksendina...
Et jah, lühi mõte kokkuvõtvalt: "Kultuuri läbi" üleliikseid maid likvideerivate ühendustele on lihtne organiseeerida 15 aasta plaani seas esindusliidriks selleks ajaks inimesi kes lisaks riigivastaste osade käikude takistajate osas saab kasuks tulle kui ka kõigele ilisaks oma olemusega võtab empaatia võime riigi osas ära, eriti kui nähakse vaeva veel tema loomuse alumisi salajasi piire välja meelitades, et neid siis suust suhu ringkondades jagada Eestlastest kui "sellistest" meelsust kujundades..
Kui otsestele pahadele tegudele ei saa, ja eraelus alat iisegi alkoholi joomisega vahele ei jää rohkem kui äärmisel juhul seltskondlik tagasihoidlik viisakas "võta pits ja pea aru" ...
siis lihtsalt isikliku olemus enda nõrgemiad külgi, mõjutama hakatakse, kasvõi palgatud uss naiste või alaliste kultustega seotud olevate naiste läbi,
kes saavad uued instruktsioonid mida ja kellest "Juhuslikult" rääkida mingis leitud nõrkuse vormis,
see jõuab mehele alateadvusesse, ja siis omakorda kujundab meelepilti ette juba teiste seas ja hulgas
elementaarsed asjad ka mida salateensitused teevad omades hulga lõbunaisi või inflatreerdies lobunaiste kasutmaist ajutiselt kasvõi röövides originaal naised ja oma naised asemele pannes kui mudu ei saa firma äraostmise või sisse töötmamise läbi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar1kKmr3TBo
22 July 2017 00:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// suhte taoliste teadmistega/patriootlikusega kodus oleva naisega
// kuid see tekst, aitab elus hoida, me seda arusaama, et osade riikide/suurfirmade image, välise prestiiži osas saab täpse demograafia põhise laimukampaaria tellida,
// kuigi ingliskeelne sõna "Character assassination" oleks asjakohasem, kuid kõlab liialt puudutavalt
kuid asjakohasem, SELLISE kaliibri asjade osas, millest räägime,
nende tellijate taga olevate lõppeesmärkide põhisuunda arvesse võttes,
ei anna Eestikeeles kuidagi sõna "laim" välja seda struktuurset lõpliku ideed, mida planeeritakse ja läbi viikse igasuguste eri meetotitega erinevas järgus allesjäänud või vee lavastamata maa patriootlikust tutavate inimestegruppide ning maade/riikide eesosade suhtes.
Eelkõige.
// kuid see tekst, aitab elus hoida, me seda arusaama, et osade riikide/suurfirmade image, välise prestiiži osas saab täpse demograafia põhise laimukampaaria tellida,
// kuigi ingliskeelne sõna "Character assassination" oleks asjakohasem, kuid kõlab liialt puudutavalt
kuid asjakohasem, SELLISE kaliibri asjade osas, millest räägime,
nende tellijate taga olevate lõppeesmärkide põhisuunda arvesse võttes,
ei anna Eestikeeles kuidagi sõna "laim" välja seda struktuurset lõpliku ideed, mida planeeritakse ja läbi viikse igasuguste eri meetotitega erinevas järgus allesjäänud või vee lavastamata maa patriootlikust tutavate inimestegruppide ning maade/riikide eesosade suhtes.
Eelkõige.
21 July 2017 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
21 July 2017 21:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hea leht ja lingitud kolmeidu blogi ka hea https://kolmeiduleheline.wordpress.com/2015/04/20/multsid-2/
https://kolmeiduleheline.wordpress.com/2015/04/20/multsid-2/
21 July 2017 20:52
Margus Meigo commented on Liina Ulm's post.
Eriti hea oleks, kui istutad sellise sambliku ja muruliigid, et ei peaksi niisama tühja seda elu maha võtma,
Kuid jah, suurel osal inimestel see rohuniitmine kohe nagu haigus peas
Kuid jah, suurel osal inimestel see rohuniitmine kohe nagu haigus peas
21 July 2017 20:51
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
for me the shape is secondary to the reason of getting us to do what is needed
21 July 2017 19:40
Margus Meigo commented on Sten-Hans Vihmar's post.
Group: Konservatiivid
See on endiselt üks parimaid sõnavõtte sellel alal.
Malle Pärn a lisa ka päris hea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-cgqOj6BGE
Sest kui veel viamselt ja suur poliitiliselt vaatama hakkata.. arvesse võtta.. jah, asjad kurvemad kui öelda sünnib, kuid lootusrikkamad kui usuta osatakse enamuseshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-cgqOj6BGE
21 July 2017 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on Rasmus Taavet's post.
Liina Metsküla'a ütles tolle asja kohta ka vajalikult..
see masendav ole jah.. et aru ei saada (ega julgeta saada,), et see maailmamastaapne orgnaiseeritud Eesti maa mustamise ja meie maa hinge ja moraali nurjamise globaalne projekt on,
mille tagajärjed mida kabinettidetaga aetakse, ulatuvad kaugele.
Kuid kuna tabitud vanelaste poolt pähe,et oled väike ja tähsusetusuurte silmis.. siis seda usutaksegi..
arusaamata, et kui VÄIKE on alles, ja Ees, siis see PALJU suurem miiinus ja nõrkusemärk suur vaenlaste endi sees, kui mingi lahmakas kogum mida nad hallata pole asjalikult suutnud.. kui mingi peaaegu milioniline nende silmis väike pool lõhestatud punt on pinnuks silmas ja siis veel maailma ees siin rääkima hakkab asjadest mida nad ajaloost likvideerida proovinud edukalt.. see palju jama neile tuua saab, palju rohkem, sest väiksele tava inimeste poolt ka üle maailma kaasa elatakse, senikaua kui nad ennast upsaka, lolli või vihkava kurjana eip näita (siis saadakse mitmekordselt... jaseda imagot ka ettevaatlikult kujundada proovitakse ... sest me poletavalised väiksed, vaid väiksed kellel väga erilised abitsioonid, positsiooonid, võimalusedja soovid)
TÄEISTI arusaadav ja usutav on, et Jürile lausa maksti selle eest, (lisaks selle, et ta meelega sinna kohale selleks valiti), et ta eriti hästi ei räägiks, sest siis see, just SEE on see mis Nende Tegelikule tööle kasu ja edu toob,
mis on siis selle Rahvusriigi likvideeirmine mitme külje pealt, enne kui keegi arusaama hakkab, et tegu on asjaliku riigiga...
ses osas, et kui näitad, et keelt ei osata , juba ESINDAJATE tasemel.. siis see annab kohe tooni ka "suletud ühiskonna" nimel ja siis erapooletud suuragentuurid, kes maailmaasju korrandavad, saavad tõendusmateriali.. et see asi siin on vaja lamedaks lükata, et areng saaks õitseda... et nõuka aja mingissse kidurasse arengumulli jäänud inimesed ja siis nad uhked ka veel selle üle.. et psühiaatriline diagnoos kohe..
kuidpeab suurelt ja pehemelt, adekvaatselt seda lahendama.. pagulastega testimine ainult üks väike osa selles,t suuremad asjad käsil..
see masendav ole jah.. et aru ei saada (ega julgeta saada,), et see maailmamastaapne orgnaiseeritud Eesti maa mustamise ja meie maa hinge ja moraali nurjamise globaalne projekt on,
mille tagajärjed mida kabinettidetaga aetakse, ulatuvad kaugele.
Kuid kuna tabitud vanelaste poolt pähe,et oled väike ja tähsusetusuurte silmis.. siis seda usutaksegi..
arusaamata, et kui VÄIKE on alles, ja Ees, siis see PALJU suurem miiinus ja nõrkusemärk suur vaenlaste endi sees, kui mingi lahmakas kogum mida nad hallata pole asjalikult suutnud.. kui mingi peaaegu milioniline nende silmis väike pool lõhestatud punt on pinnuks silmas ja siis veel maailma ees siin rääkima hakkab asjadest mida nad ajaloost likvideerida proovinud edukalt.. see palju jama neile tuua saab, palju rohkem, sest väiksele tava inimeste poolt ka üle maailma kaasa elatakse, senikaua kui nad ennast upsaka, lolli või vihkava kurjana eip näita (siis saadakse mitmekordselt... jaseda imagot ka ettevaatlikult kujundada proovitakse ... sest me poletavalised väiksed, vaid väiksed kellel väga erilised abitsioonid, positsiooonid, võimalusedja soovid)
TÄEISTI arusaadav ja usutav on, et Jürile lausa maksti selle eest, (lisaks selle, et ta meelega sinna kohale selleks valiti), et ta eriti hästi ei räägiks, sest siis see, just SEE on see mis Nende Tegelikule tööle kasu ja edu toob,
mis on siis selle Rahvusriigi likvideeirmine mitme külje pealt, enne kui keegi arusaama hakkab, et tegu on asjaliku riigiga...
ses osas, et kui näitad, et keelt ei osata , juba ESINDAJATE tasemel.. siis see annab kohe tooni ka "suletud ühiskonna" nimel ja siis erapooletud suuragentuurid, kes maailmaasju korrandavad, saavad tõendusmateriali.. et see asi siin on vaja lamedaks lükata, et areng saaks õitseda... et nõuka aja mingissse kidurasse arengumulli jäänud inimesed ja siis nad uhked ka veel selle üle.. et psühiaatriline diagnoos kohe..
kuidpeab suurelt ja pehemelt, adekvaatselt seda lahendama.. pagulastega testimine ainult üks väike osa selles,t suuremad asjad käsil..
21 July 2017 17:04
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis van Kaldalu's post.
21 July 2017 16:55
Margus Meigo replied to Margus Kiis's comment.
Võiks ka Malle Pärn siia lisada, nais poolelt, kes suht adekvaatne konservatismi osas enamuses on julgen õelda,
läbi vaimufiltrigi vaadates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-cgqOj6BGE
Muidugi tegelikult on õigem öelda Okupeeritud, mitte NAGU okupeeritud, kuid eks targa naisena ta seda meelega turvalisuse mõttes sedasi ütles..
eriti ju teada mis suurmudatused selle aastajooksul eriti siin avalikult kõige silme all ära tehakse..
läbi vaimufiltrigi vaadates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-cgqOj6BGE
Muidugi tegelikult on õigem öelda Okupeeritud, mitte NAGU okupeeritud, kuid eks targa naisena ta seda meelega turvalisuse mõttes sedasi ütles..
eriti ju teada mis suurmudatused selle aastajooksul eriti siin avalikult kõige silme all ära tehakse..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-cgqOj6BGE
21 July 2017 16:50
Margus Meigo replied to Margus Kiis's comment.
muide selle eelmise ajalehe pildis esitatud küsimuse vastus ka:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MrJPt3HzBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MrJPt3HzBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MrJPt3HzBY
21 July 2017 16:49
Margus Meigo replied to Margus Kiis's comment.
mis arvad miks selle asja nimi SIRP on
21 July 2017 16:33
Margus Meigo replied to Margus Kiis's comment.
sirbis on hunnik Eliit kommuniste ka koos ja liberaalide ja futuristide ja pseudo kultuuri inimestega kes aksepteerivad modernsed alaarendavat saasta kui päris kunstiliiki, abstrakstse modernse kunsti kriitseldiste kummardajaid, selle sama "Kunstiliigi" mille kommunistid aretasid ja siis CIA viimistles kasulike idiootide tootmiseks, neid võlts kunstigaleriisi terve euroopa täis sünnitades, kuni lambad ja vaimuvaesed ning rahaahned ise neid kopeerima hakkasid.
Arvates, et tegu ongi adekvaatse eneseväljendusega või mingitpidi kultuurilise asjaga, top 100 st kallimast maalist nüüd maailmas on pooled umbes kriitseldised, võltskuntst ; ilmaigasuguse vaimuväärtusega
Kuid kuna rooma-greeka pederastia, gymnaasiumist väljakasvanud kooli ja haridussüsteem kiidab takka ja õpetab, et nagu ongi tegu kunsti liigiga, siis sedaka ammul isui usutakse, eestiski nende kandoomide näited küllaga.. üks nimi kripeldab keelel kohe..
kuid jah kommuniste sõna suuresmas mõttes, neid kes maa iidsed väärtused uue ja suure, särava INIMESE ideoloogia (tegelikult väärtulnukate) nimel maha kannaks kohe, osad haaraks liputki kätte, misiganes värvi need on senikaua kui ideloloogiat toetavad mida nad tunentavad olema suur ja õige
ja Õige tundub see mis mugavustsooni hellitab ja parasjagu kelle iganes vastu on kelle vastu on populaarne olla.
Palju keerulisem on aga kõikide eri valtkondade hulgast tarke inimesi noppida (selle asemel et sõimata "reformikateks" või "keskikuteks" aint), kellel on ka mõttesõna ja vaimujõudu, tarkust ja struktuurilist mõtlemist lühidalt midagi informatsioonirikast edastada,
Viimane näide, nteks IRL ist Peeter Olesk
tänasest õhtulehest
kes minu mõõdupuu järgi suht kasuliku jutuga sai hakkama:
Kes see mees muidu on, eks seda veel tunnetab
Arvates, et tegu ongi adekvaatse eneseväljendusega või mingitpidi kultuurilise asjaga, top 100 st kallimast maalist nüüd maailmas on pooled umbes kriitseldised, võltskuntst ; ilmaigasuguse vaimuväärtusega
Kuid kuna rooma-greeka pederastia, gymnaasiumist väljakasvanud kooli ja haridussüsteem kiidab takka ja õpetab, et nagu ongi tegu kunsti liigiga, siis sedaka ammul isui usutakse, eestiski nende kandoomide näited küllaga.. üks nimi kripeldab keelel kohe..
kuid jah kommuniste sõna suuresmas mõttes, neid kes maa iidsed väärtused uue ja suure, särava INIMESE ideoloogia (tegelikult väärtulnukate) nimel maha kannaks kohe, osad haaraks liputki kätte, misiganes värvi need on senikaua kui ideloloogiat toetavad mida nad tunentavad olema suur ja õige
ja Õige tundub see mis mugavustsooni hellitab ja parasjagu kelle iganes vastu on kelle vastu on populaarne olla.
Palju keerulisem on aga kõikide eri valtkondade hulgast tarke inimesi noppida (selle asemel et sõimata "reformikateks" või "keskikuteks" aint), kellel on ka mõttesõna ja vaimujõudu, tarkust ja struktuurilist mõtlemist lühidalt midagi informatsioonirikast edastada,
Viimane näide, nteks IRL ist Peeter Olesk
tänasest õhtulehest
kes minu mõõdupuu järgi suht kasuliku jutuga sai hakkama:
Kes see mees muidu on, eks seda veel tunnetab
21 July 2017 16:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
key addition spelled out was "at minimum"
as "like me" inside the, Me, is the "at minimum" factor as elementary anyway, but sometimes have to spell it out to not be so trolling
as "like me" inside the, Me, is the "at minimum" factor as elementary anyway, but sometimes have to spell it out to not be so trolling
21 July 2017 16:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so yea..
not just talking about the current DPI but future versions of that.. how long this cat and mice thing can work... when we got a remote viewers and information abserers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_packet_inspection
Nice scale from Nano to Space to connect
for HUMANS... but who else has all the connections accessible by now according to Musk..
Nanoscale network ( IEEE P1906.1 )
Near-field (NFC)
Body (BAN)
Personal (PAN)
Near-me (NAN)
Local (LAN)
Home (HAN)
Storage (SAN)
Wireless (WLAN)
Campus (CAN)
Backbone
Metropolitan (MAN)
Wide (WAN)
Cloud (IAN)
Internet
Interplanetary Internet (InterPlaNet, DPI , DTN ...well CCSDS still working on it.. // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay-tolerant_networking ... or perhaps Robert Bigelow will do something in here as well.. https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212391154190675 / https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/pcb.10212233844298026/10212233778336377/?type=3&theater (text to read in there)
... this last bit reminds me a joke.. from common newspaper, related to SETI toy's .. not sure if to be sad, angry or laugh about these kind of toy'ng around.. i mean.. to look intelligence "out there" ...making illusion feeling as we human species here and will try to find something out there... in the eyes of the species who are here, we look like complete criminals or idiots, if we wording and doing things like that... ... this project should ALSO look in batters of our history, artifacts, behaviors, on Earth, to understand.. abnormality's that are clear here, nearly whatever time period You can take. even last 100 years .. how was able to produce planet these kind of monsters, really just natural humans behind it some believe ? And then normal humans fallow and start to DE-evolve so much morally on their own ? No way... )
not just talking about the current DPI but future versions of that.. how long this cat and mice thing can work... when we got a remote viewers and information abserers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_packet_inspection
Nice scale from Nano to Space to connect
for HUMANS... but who else has all the connections accessible by now according to Musk..
Nanoscale network ( IEEE P1906.1 )
Near-field (NFC)
Body (BAN)
Personal (PAN)
Near-me (NAN)
Local (LAN)
Home (HAN)
Storage (SAN)
Wireless (WLAN)
Campus (CAN)
Backbone
Metropolitan (MAN)
Wide (WAN)
Cloud (IAN)
Internet
Interplanetary Internet (InterPlaNet, DPI , DTN ...well CCSDS still working on it.. // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay-tolerant_networking ... or perhaps Robert Bigelow will do something in here as well.. https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212391154190675 / https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/pcb.10212233844298026/10212233778336377/?type=3&theater (text to read in there)
... this last bit reminds me a joke.. from common newspaper, related to SETI toy's .. not sure if to be sad, angry or laugh about these kind of toy'ng around.. i mean.. to look intelligence "out there" ...making illusion feeling as we human species here and will try to find something out there... in the eyes of the species who are here, we look like complete criminals or idiots, if we wording and doing things like that... ... this project should ALSO look in batters of our history, artifacts, behaviors, on Earth, to understand.. abnormality's that are clear here, nearly whatever time period You can take. even last 100 years .. how was able to produce planet these kind of monsters, really just natural humans behind it some believe ? And then normal humans fallow and start to DE-evolve so much morally on their own ? No way... )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_packet_inspection
21 July 2017 16:27
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
küll needus ise seda välja mõelda aitab, ega ta niisama siis tolgendama saa jääda ilmatu ajaks..
21 July 2017 16:17
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis van Kaldalu's comment.
i mean, the passwords,
even in past tweeted them and posted on walls, all is secure still.
even in past tweeted them and posted on walls, all is secure still.
21 July 2017 16:01
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis van Kaldalu's comment.
This is reason always, i share my All public social profiles, related to personal life, to any woman who does want to have interest on me in any doings, also priests, intelligence officers or anyone of the ones that can be trusted (can be trusted, that they actually might need ), but who also needs or is helped by looking in to my personal life, first layers (emails, FB, personal letters/memos, phone.. etc ...for me is complete waste of time to try to hide so simplistic things (not that inside my accounts, would be simplistic work.. but compared to what is to become, when cards are handled right and my work proves to be valuable to most valuable... then any privacy kind of thing, would just slow down the project, the purpose, the aim, the work.. the life ))
21 July 2017 15:57
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis van Kaldalu's comment.
[in spiritual point of view, based on what WE KIND make future IT systems]
Man should understand, Female can see in spiritual levels ALL our shady doings anyway, but not just She..
Her soul also is sold, manipulated and changed information from pieces filtered by forces who aim is to send Your life in to doing things that help Them to get Your life energy, or to engage your deeds in a way that it can be used in spiritual warfare or in physical hurting (sending some man bad deeds to the levels that make Him hurt her, any one of Her, even fake her, and by this man is more trapped and imprisoned , slave of slave forces)
Man should understand, Female can see in spiritual levels ALL our shady doings anyway, but not just She..
Her soul also is sold, manipulated and changed information from pieces filtered by forces who aim is to send Your life in to doing things that help Them to get Your life energy, or to engage your deeds in a way that it can be used in spiritual warfare or in physical hurting (sending some man bad deeds to the levels that make Him hurt her, any one of Her, even fake her, and by this man is more trapped and imprisoned , slave of slave forces)
21 July 2017 15:54
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis van Kaldalu's comment.
for sure, if i do / as if someone Does have an interest, then they have a Need, and (not nice to) to stop someones interests and needs because we shy about our shady doings or not aware of actual information inspection that can be randomly on our back and besides bulk harvest and continuous meta data saving that allows to pull up deep data from shadow bases for any special task forces or many times criminal enterprises who fallow the money and influences ... hmm..
When was reading, that Estonia data in all manners, from phone to internet activity, is saved by European Union - EU & Scandinavian data ports in full scale, .. i felt no threat on it, just hoped, that it is done deep enough not just stop on mere meta data level as advertised
When was reading, that Estonia data in all manners, from phone to internet activity, is saved by European Union - EU & Scandinavian data ports in full scale, .. i felt no threat on it, just hoped, that it is done deep enough not just stop on mere meta data level as advertised
21 July 2017 15:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
specially if law enforcement want to piece together data better,
and as web-mail attachments.. well, just good way to highlight special kind of people for first data layer and from that bulk...
global base of arrested and crawled keys (all methods) +and connected data will be useful tool...
even to find proof back in time..
but yea i kind of think entire crypt thing kind of sucks compared with proper transparent solutions and healthy minds who focus on DOING WHAT IS GOOD, so if anyone IS reading, then better to all parts.
Inventing tools, that the ones who we try to protect our self, can hide better.. does not really serve great cause.
Ohh yea.. stealing business secrets and all that.. or even state secrets.. what a freaking secret can one country have from another one who is normal ??
Luckily all this secrecy crap will be reticulated in future, and will be eliminated whiteout communism.
and as web-mail attachments.. well, just good way to highlight special kind of people for first data layer and from that bulk...
global base of arrested and crawled keys (all methods) +and connected data will be useful tool...
even to find proof back in time..
but yea i kind of think entire crypt thing kind of sucks compared with proper transparent solutions and healthy minds who focus on DOING WHAT IS GOOD, so if anyone IS reading, then better to all parts.
Inventing tools, that the ones who we try to protect our self, can hide better.. does not really serve great cause.
Ohh yea.. stealing business secrets and all that.. or even state secrets.. what a freaking secret can one country have from another one who is normal ??
Luckily all this secrecy crap will be reticulated in future, and will be eliminated whiteout communism.
21 July 2017 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
also many other things as https://www.facebook.com/groups/BRICSFriendshipForum/permalink/1907075249615171/
20 July 2017 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
All good so far
20 July 2017 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Helenurm's comment.
ei nu mis ma nii kursis... mehega paar aega koos veeta ja marusaame vahetada, küll siis kurss tuleb
19 July 2017 22:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Facebook says it will reach maximum News Feed ad load in mid-2017, which means it needs new revenue streams to continue its revenue growth momentum that’s been going strong for years. Ramping up Instagram’s ad load and today’s launch of its new pay-per-user enterprise collaboration tool Facebook Workplace could shoulder some of the responsibility. Facebook’s also been testing new forms of Live video mid-roll ads and even Sponsored Messages from businesses in Messenger.
groups-heroBut the easiest way to generate extra ad dollars may be simply opening up more of Facebook’s traditional browsing to ad placement, and Groups is a massive treasure chest to unlock.
Groups was one of Facebook’s first features, starting as a non-functional way to say you support a cause or idea, from human rights to the joy of stepping on a crunchy leaf. The Groups feature was overhauled in 2010 to become forums where people could communicate, not just affiliate.
By 2014, Groups had grown to 500 million users and gotten its own standalone app. Since then, it’s doubled in size thanks to buy-and-sell Groups for commerce and other communities. From families, cliques and silly meme sharing, to hobby clubs, protest organizers and professional discussion places, Groups have blossomed into a major part of the Facebook experience.
It’s that diversity of purposes that could boost the value of Groups ads. If Facebook can find a way to reliably categorize the Groups to enhance ad targeting, it could reach people of different interests with highly relevant and lucrative ads.
https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/10/facebook-workplace/
After 20 months in a closed beta under the working title Facebook at Work, (as we predicted it would the other week) today Facebook is finally bringing its enterprise-focused messaging and social networking service to market under a new name, Workplace.
It’s not only armed with a new brand: Workplace is launching with a new kind of pricing model based on Facebook-style monthly active user metrics; and some pretty big ambitions after picking up 1,000 organizations as customers while still in its free, pilot mode (up from 100 a year ago).
08_workplace_live_androidWorkplace — which is launching as a desktop and mobile app with News Feed, Groups both for your own company and with others, Chat direct messaging, Live video, Reactions, translation features, and video and audio calling — is now opening up to anyone to use, and the operative word here is “anyone”.
https://workplace.fb.com/
groups-heroBut the easiest way to generate extra ad dollars may be simply opening up more of Facebook’s traditional browsing to ad placement, and Groups is a massive treasure chest to unlock.
Groups was one of Facebook’s first features, starting as a non-functional way to say you support a cause or idea, from human rights to the joy of stepping on a crunchy leaf. The Groups feature was overhauled in 2010 to become forums where people could communicate, not just affiliate.
By 2014, Groups had grown to 500 million users and gotten its own standalone app. Since then, it’s doubled in size thanks to buy-and-sell Groups for commerce and other communities. From families, cliques and silly meme sharing, to hobby clubs, protest organizers and professional discussion places, Groups have blossomed into a major part of the Facebook experience.
It’s that diversity of purposes that could boost the value of Groups ads. If Facebook can find a way to reliably categorize the Groups to enhance ad targeting, it could reach people of different interests with highly relevant and lucrative ads.
https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/10/facebook-workplace/
After 20 months in a closed beta under the working title Facebook at Work, (as we predicted it would the other week) today Facebook is finally bringing its enterprise-focused messaging and social networking service to market under a new name, Workplace.
It’s not only armed with a new brand: Workplace is launching with a new kind of pricing model based on Facebook-style monthly active user metrics; and some pretty big ambitions after picking up 1,000 organizations as customers while still in its free, pilot mode (up from 100 a year ago).
08_workplace_live_androidWorkplace — which is launching as a desktop and mobile app with News Feed, Groups both for your own company and with others, Chat direct messaging, Live video, Reactions, translation features, and video and audio calling — is now opening up to anyone to use, and the operative word here is “anyone”.
https://workplace.fb.com/
https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/10/facebook-workplace/
19 July 2017 21:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
it is not really connected to it but well, it is then again, but normal i gues
"Facebook’s latest trick to earn more revenue without drowning the News Feed is to serve ads to the 1 billion users of its Groups feature. After people reported seeing notices that “We’re testing ads in Groups,” TechCrunch inquired and Facebook confirmed that mobile and desktop versions of Groups in Australia, Canada, Ireland and New Zealand are part of the trial.
“We have started to test delivering ads to people in Facebook Groups, and will be evaluating the response before determining how we will move forward,” Facebook told TechCrunch in a statement. The ads will look the same as News Feed ads. They’ll be targeted by Group topic as well as the standard identity-based targeting.
https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/10/facebook-group-ads/
"Facebook’s latest trick to earn more revenue without drowning the News Feed is to serve ads to the 1 billion users of its Groups feature. After people reported seeing notices that “We’re testing ads in Groups,” TechCrunch inquired and Facebook confirmed that mobile and desktop versions of Groups in Australia, Canada, Ireland and New Zealand are part of the trial.
“We have started to test delivering ads to people in Facebook Groups, and will be evaluating the response before determining how we will move forward,” Facebook told TechCrunch in a statement. The ads will look the same as News Feed ads. They’ll be targeted by Group topic as well as the standard identity-based targeting.
https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/10/facebook-group-ads/
https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/10/facebook-group-ads/
19 July 2017 21:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Zuckerberg's focus"
Zuckerberg's focus on community building ties back to the nearly 6,000-word manifesto he shared earlier this year, which pitches Facebook as digital social infrastructure that can be leveraged for good. Although the company's new mission emphasizes community, Zuckerberg seems to view the individual as the immediate, critical unit for change at scale. Communities are important, Zuckerberg said, in large part because they help give people more bandwidth to look beyond their immediate surroundings and concerns.
“A more connected world is going to be necessary to take on the greatest opportunities and challenges for the next generation, everything from stopping climate change, to stopping pandemics, to funding research,” Zuckerberg said in an interview. “These are not fundamentally national problems anymore. In order to get there, you need to build a world where every person has a sense of support and purpose in their life so they don’t just focus narrowly on what’s going on in their lives, but can think about these broader issues as well.”
Zuckerberg's focus on community building ties back to the nearly 6,000-word manifesto he shared earlier this year, which pitches Facebook as digital social infrastructure that can be leveraged for good. Although the company's new mission emphasizes community, Zuckerberg seems to view the individual as the immediate, critical unit for change at scale. Communities are important, Zuckerberg said, in large part because they help give people more bandwidth to look beyond their immediate surroundings and concerns.
“A more connected world is going to be necessary to take on the greatest opportunities and challenges for the next generation, everything from stopping climate change, to stopping pandemics, to funding research,” Zuckerberg said in an interview. “These are not fundamentally national problems anymore. In order to get there, you need to build a world where every person has a sense of support and purpose in their life so they don’t just focus narrowly on what’s going on in their lives, but can think about these broader issues as well.”
19 July 2017 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Helenurm's comment.
TallinnaTV, annunakid, jumaLAD ?
19 July 2017 21:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
19 July 2017 21:42
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Helenurm's post.
Kurb, et ta ka ise.. laseb ennast niititõmbajatel tõmmata... loodan, et tal plaan, et ussipessasse jõudnuna tirib mõõga välja..
19 July 2017 21:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Also to take in to account
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19 July 2017 20:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hmm.. mõtlen selle kõige kasu osas veel:
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.10212525912599551.1073741885.1135161043&type=3&pnref=story
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.10212525912599551.1073741885.1135161043&type=3&pnref=story
19 July 2017 20:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
19 July 2017 19:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
just for these who need to know some sides of average me's
19 July 2017 19:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
take look again soon
19 July 2017 19:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vau, see test ikka läheb edasi veel, eriti pikk!
19 July 2017 18:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja veel näiteks
"I need to experience something or work at it hands-on in order to understand it"
kas kui vastata "false"
tähendab ka siis kui ka siis ei saa aru kui käed küljes töötada, või false ka siis õigesti vastatud, kui saad asjast aru ka ilma sellega töötamata
"I need to experience something or work at it hands-on in order to understand it"
kas kui vastata "false"
tähendab ka siis kui ka siis ei saa aru kui käed küljes töötada, või false ka siis õigesti vastatud, kui saad asjast aru ka ilma sellega töötamata
19 July 2017 18:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis olukorralised asjad,
Näitkes "I save up a lot of money in the event of a crisis"
oleks ju JAH kui oleks raha mida säästa
samas vabalt vaja ka ennast tunda ja pole vaja hoida kübekest raha ku iselle asemel vaja endal või kellegil hästi tunda...
samas enda peale niisama raiskama ka alati ei kipu ja viimased kroonid võivad kuid olla alles igaks juhuks..
hmm osasi asju vist peab oletuse peale vastama, et kui oleks, mis siis teeks ja kuidas.. sest kui sul vähe on siis pole mõtet olla liialt koguv,
kui palju on aga peab koguma kindlasti ka, nu jah, oleneb filosoofiast
Näitkes "I save up a lot of money in the event of a crisis"
oleks ju JAH kui oleks raha mida säästa
samas vabalt vaja ka ennast tunda ja pole vaja hoida kübekest raha ku iselle asemel vaja endal või kellegil hästi tunda...
samas enda peale niisama raiskama ka alati ei kipu ja viimased kroonid võivad kuid olla alles igaks juhuks..
hmm osasi asju vist peab oletuse peale vastama, et kui oleks, mis siis teeks ja kuidas.. sest kui sul vähe on siis pole mõtet olla liialt koguv,
kui palju on aga peab koguma kindlasti ka, nu jah, oleneb filosoofiast
19 July 2017 18:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"I am a little sad"
Hm, kas kui vastata"false"
Siissobib nii neile kes on palju kurvad, kui ka need kes pole absoluutselt kurvad`?
Hm, kas kui vastata"false"
Siissobib nii neile kes on palju kurvad, kui ka need kes pole absoluutselt kurvad`?
19 July 2017 18:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jällegi suts liberaalne küsimus oletades tagatausta,
et kas seda psotiivse või vähem psotiivse nurgana vaadatakse, et
"When it comes to sex, I am not very experimental"
nu kui kõike juba oled proovinud ja tead mis on hea, siis mida sa enam ikka eksperimenteerid, kõige sügavam ja parim armastus tuleb ikka kindlatest rahulikest sügavatest tegevustest, mitte mingitest ime nippidest
et kas seda psotiivse või vähem psotiivse nurgana vaadatakse, et
"When it comes to sex, I am not very experimental"
nu kui kõike juba oled proovinud ja tead mis on hea, siis mida sa enam ikka eksperimenteerid, kõige sügavam ja parim armastus tuleb ikka kindlatest rahulikest sügavatest tegevustest, mitte mingitest ime nippidest
19 July 2017 18:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja väiksed asjad nagu "I find it easy to fall asleep at night"
jah, tõsi, aga ma lihtsalt valin mitte seda teha, sest palju muud head pea täis mida korda saata öösel veel ju : )
jah, tõsi, aga ma lihtsalt valin mitte seda teha, sest palju muud head pea täis mida korda saata öösel veel ju : )
19 July 2017 18:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
võttes aga teistmoodi, kas riskiks keegi reaalselt armastatu vastu millegagi mis teadlikult ohustaks siis ei..
kuid mitmed muud tegevused, on ikkagi reaalselt arusaades riskid, olgu need siis elutegevused või soovid ja ..
kuid mitmed muud tegevused, on ikkagi reaalselt arusaades riskid, olgu need siis elutegevused või soovid ja ..
19 July 2017 18:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja mida peaks "I take risks in my love life"
tähendama ?
Jällegi, madalama teadvuses inimese,d kes tuimalt ükskõikselt aravad asjadest, naad tegelt riskivad iga päev, juues alkohole ja magades naabrigagi, või käitudes ja mõeldes valesti.. kuid nad ei arva, et nad riskivad,
samas keegi kes on iga väiksemagi mõtte puhastaja ja kõike ennetav, planeeriv, sooviv, .. headja parimat omavhelisel puhtusel nõudev .. tema jälle võib ja teab, saab aru ,et iga oma karmusega ta reaalselt riskib, et jääks paremini aga võib ka minna ju pahemaks kui vinti kogematta üle keerata
tähendama ?
Jällegi, madalama teadvuses inimese,d kes tuimalt ükskõikselt aravad asjadest, naad tegelt riskivad iga päev, juues alkohole ja magades naabrigagi, või käitudes ja mõeldes valesti.. kuid nad ei arva, et nad riskivad,
samas keegi kes on iga väiksemagi mõtte puhastaja ja kõike ennetav, planeeriv, sooviv, .. headja parimat omavhelisel puhtusel nõudev .. tema jälle võib ja teab, saab aru ,et iga oma karmusega ta reaalselt riskib, et jääks paremini aga võib ka minna ju pahemaks kui vinti kogematta üle keerata
19 July 2017 18:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
põnev värk üldiselt
19 July 2017 18:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"I tend to fantasize when I’m having sex" see ka kahe otsaga asi.. need kes poleteadvusel.. kui nad ei fanataseeri seksi aeg siis vast see ebahea, kuid need kes on selgemeelsed, päris armastuses, nad kindlasti õige armastuse korral ei peaks fantaseerima, see oleks väga ebahea märk, keksenduma peaks üksteisele ja üksteise jumalikusele, see juba on koos kõige võimalustega igasugusest fantaasiatest suurem , võimsam ja eelkõige tundelisem, ausam ja reaalsem.
Seega jah, osades testides kui liberaalsete ajudega psüholoogia põhjal kokku pandud, võib tunduda fantaseerimine kui hea asi,
tegelikult aga need kes on oma meeltes päris teadvustega tegelevad, nad ned asju REAALSELT mõtlevad ,epeas, olngu need tulnuka reaalsused, või suuremad valitsuse skeemid,
kõrvalt võivad tunuda fantaasiad neile kes pole nendeteadvuskanalitega seotud.. seega jah.. ka see kõsimus oleks, peaks olema kuidagi lahti arutatult, et arusaaks, mis moodi fantaasia inimene,
et mingite küsimustega koos annab õige täehnduse teatud küsimustele, selleks aga peab suht ausalt läbi tunnetama testi ja reaalsuse nurgad,
Seega jah, osades testides kui liberaalsete ajudega psüholoogia põhjal kokku pandud, võib tunduda fantaseerimine kui hea asi,
tegelikult aga need kes on oma meeltes päris teadvustega tegelevad, nad ned asju REAALSELT mõtlevad ,epeas, olngu need tulnuka reaalsused, või suuremad valitsuse skeemid,
kõrvalt võivad tunuda fantaasiad neile kes pole nendeteadvuskanalitega seotud.. seega jah.. ka see kõsimus oleks, peaks olema kuidagi lahti arutatult, et arusaaks, mis moodi fantaasia inimene,
et mingite küsimustega koos annab õige täehnduse teatud küsimustele, selleks aga peab suht ausalt läbi tunnetama testi ja reaalsuse nurgad,
19 July 2017 18:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja "I find it easy to change things; I am not set in my ways"
On ka suhtleine... enamus ja paljusi asju mis enamuste jaoks rakse jah,
aga mingeid asju, ei muuda pea kindlasti
jasiis teiste arvates, kes keskenduvad nendele asjadele mida ei soovi muuta, tundub, et ei ole kergesti muutja inimene... kuig nad ise pigem need kes ennast mu järgi õigeks ei suvatse muuta enamasti, ja siis vaadatakse sedakes valeks ei muuda kui muutumatut, kes nagu kinni oleks kuskil
On ka suhtleine... enamus ja paljusi asju mis enamuste jaoks rakse jah,
aga mingeid asju, ei muuda pea kindlasti
jasiis teiste arvates, kes keskenduvad nendele asjadele mida ei soovi muuta, tundub, et ei ole kergesti muutja inimene... kuig nad ise pigem need kes ennast mu järgi õigeks ei suvatse muuta enamasti, ja siis vaadatakse sedakes valeks ei muuda kui muutumatut, kes nagu kinni oleks kuskil
19 July 2017 18:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
huvitav mis on.. "I tend to overreact to my body"
19 July 2017 18:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ka "I notice everything going on around me" on suhteline, sest on neid kes teavad rohkem ,kui palju asju me ümber on ja siis tevad kui palju me ei pane tähele... ja on neid kes ei tea, mis ja mida tähele panna, ja arvavad, et panevad kõike tähele .. hmm eks need osad asjad on sellise, mida reaalselt testida tuleks, inimestel endil mingi muu asjaga veel, kui sama testi reaal versioon teha, või virtuaalne osa, kus paari eri mälu sorti testitakse , eraldi aknas
19 July 2017 18:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või siis "I have an excellent attention span and rarely miss a thing"
Jällre oleneb, eriti kui usud, et meeles on need asjadmida vaja,
ja tähele paned seda mida vaja...
kuid kellegi teise jaoks, mida nad soovivad, seda ei pruugi tähele panna... olulisi asju mitmeid panen tähele mida enamus ei pruugi tähele osata panna.. samas tavapäraseid asju võib vabalt ununeda ..hmm..
Nu jah, need mõlemad asjad testi jaosk võib vast negatiivseks hinnata
Jällre oleneb, eriti kui usud, et meeles on need asjadmida vaja,
ja tähele paned seda mida vaja...
kuid kellegi teise jaoks, mida nad soovivad, seda ei pruugi tähele panna... olulisi asju mitmeid panen tähele mida enamus ei pruugi tähele osata panna.. samas tavapäraseid asju võib vabalt ununeda ..hmm..
Nu jah, need mõlemad asjad testi jaosk võib vast negatiivseks hinnata
19 July 2017 18:13
Margus Meigo commented on Kai-Epp Kübarsepp's post.
näiteks "My memory is very strong"
nu suhteline, sest osasi asju mäletan emotsioonilisi ja muid olulisi tähendusi, aga abstraktseid numbreid ja nimesi ei pruugi,
nu suhteline, sest osasi asju mäletan emotsioonilisi ja muid olulisi tähendusi, aga abstraktseid numbreid ja nimesi ei pruugi,
19 July 2017 18:11
Margus Meigo commented on Kai-Epp Kübarsepp's post.
kõik ei ole sedasi vastatav,
sest on erinevad, hoopis vastaspõhjused miks mõned asjad kellegil nii või naa on, kuid eks proovib teha, vaatab mis saab : )
sest on erinevad, hoopis vastaspõhjused miks mõned asjad kellegil nii või naa on, kuid eks proovib teha, vaatab mis saab : )
19 July 2017 18:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
19 July 2017 11:42
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
siinkohal, kui me lõpuks virgume, ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_aVes81Q8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_aVes81Q8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_aVes81Q8I
19 July 2017 10:52
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
tõsises metafüüsikas, ehk mõtestatud maailmakäsitluses milles on tegevus, areng ja arvatvad tagajärjed mille poole püüelda ja millest hoiduda, võttes eeseesmärgina arvesse igakeskpuute punkti, kui tõenäoset kõrgemat keda tema madalaimate asjade osas esmajärgus aitama pead arvestades, et tegu võib olla nii vahepelse miraazi, enda väärpeegeldusega või siis midagi suuremat ja ohtlikumagi veel, kõige kolme osas, ..kuid seda enam, on jällegi, teades olulisusi, ja mäletades mida soovid, siis enamasti ei tasu taganeda ilma, et natukenegi midagi paremaks teeks,
kasvõi märku andes, mida märkasid, mingi infromatsiooniline ja keeleline tegevus enemasti pigem kasuks, kui ta teadlikult paremuse suunas on mõeldud, seotud olles asjaolude/mõtete/plaanide "misjooniega" mis edasiviivalt suuremad kui me ise
kasvõi märku andes, mida märkasid, mingi infromatsiooniline ja keeleline tegevus enemasti pigem kasuks, kui ta teadlikult paremuse suunas on mõeldud, seotud olles asjaolude/mõtete/plaanide "misjooniega" mis edasiviivalt suuremad kui me ise
19 July 2017 10:51
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
kuid veider dendents on see, liigi osas suitsiidne kuid pealiskaudselt relgiooselt innustatav, et kui keegi pahades asjades põhja kirub siis selles osas eriti paljud eitule rinda ette ajama, ennast pahasti tundma, et NEMAD ju peaks rohkem olema ... ei tulda teist parandamagi .. kui siis lohutama, ehk siis olukorraga leppima, olukorda kinnitama, et nii on (ümberlükkamise, või mõne muu dimensiooni tõendamise asemel, tagamaade selgitamise asemel...siis inimene u tark ,saab ise aru, et miks nii arvas, kuidas on ja mis moodi paremini saab).
Kuid jah,,, kui keegi millises iganes PAHAS skaalas ennast kiitleb, siis seda eriti teravalt, kasvõi vaikides teravalt ei võeta..
../.veel vahest saadakse kaasmõstmist nendes osades kus teinegi arvab end nii olema.. kuid siis osa neist veel tunneb paremini ennast sala, instiktiivselt, et näe keegi veel samadel tasemetel, silmakaugusel mülkas, ja siis kas koos hea uppuda vaiskelt sisendades endasse lootusetust (mis on teisisõnu stanism ja jumalavastasus) või muidu proovides ratsionaliseerida, et see on "Mehaanilise maailma ja loodusseaduste loomulik asjade käik" .. nu mehelikus seegi kui sellega ennast olematuks suruda, ... kuigi ka neid, tithi saadakse kasutada targemate pahade asjade jaoks, sest nad suudavad pidevast ülevõtvast masendusest natuke ülegi olla, masenduse unustusse suruda töösse uptuades ennast, ja mida kõrgem töö, seda edukamalt ei millegi suunas ennast uskuma pannes liikuda, selgees kuni kaljutipuni, teades ju, et varem või hiljem see aeg tuleb, kus sammudeks enam samme pole..ja kuna samamood isammuvad, nende realasuspiires ka suurem osa asjalikest, v.a. nende silmis siis muus deliiriumis olles või veel arutud kes ringi närvitsedes rabelevad ja depresante peoga sisse söövad ise jälgides omakorda asju telekastpingsalt, sarju, mis loodud inimloomust hävitama, osalt ka tuimaks tegema valude osas ja tundetuks sõnade osas.. kuid eks kasutusi ja plaane polaanide osas ole mitmeid igal tip üleoleval organil.. kes viamuilmas vastutab ja kes milleks telelaineid kasutada oskab ja plaanib pikas perspektiivis.. ../..
kui keegi aga kuskil alades, kuskil ennast kus tunnetatakse, et kuuldu järgi hea asub, või midagi ihaldusväärset või midagi paremat... selles skaalas keegi ennast üritab tutvustada, selgitada, olla .. siis see on täis tavapärane naeruväärne olukord, kus sellele kollektiivselt, pahavaimuall olevate inimeste seas kaasa haarates veel normaalse sooviga olijaid, hukka mõistetakse alavääristavalt..
kuid jah, eks siis tuleb võtta toalisi elemente ühiskonnas kas märkidena eemaldumisest, edasiliikumisena, diagnoosina, õpetuse/treeninguna, müstika või vangistatud olukorraga mida parandama ju tulitki, olenevalt oma teadvustest ja ülesannetest mida hingeosas tunnetad, mis Sinu
Kuid jah,,, kui keegi millises iganes PAHAS skaalas ennast kiitleb, siis seda eriti teravalt, kasvõi vaikides teravalt ei võeta..
../.veel vahest saadakse kaasmõstmist nendes osades kus teinegi arvab end nii olema.. kuid siis osa neist veel tunneb paremini ennast sala, instiktiivselt, et näe keegi veel samadel tasemetel, silmakaugusel mülkas, ja siis kas koos hea uppuda vaiskelt sisendades endasse lootusetust (mis on teisisõnu stanism ja jumalavastasus) või muidu proovides ratsionaliseerida, et see on "Mehaanilise maailma ja loodusseaduste loomulik asjade käik" .. nu mehelikus seegi kui sellega ennast olematuks suruda, ... kuigi ka neid, tithi saadakse kasutada targemate pahade asjade jaoks, sest nad suudavad pidevast ülevõtvast masendusest natuke ülegi olla, masenduse unustusse suruda töösse uptuades ennast, ja mida kõrgem töö, seda edukamalt ei millegi suunas ennast uskuma pannes liikuda, selgees kuni kaljutipuni, teades ju, et varem või hiljem see aeg tuleb, kus sammudeks enam samme pole..ja kuna samamood isammuvad, nende realasuspiires ka suurem osa asjalikest, v.a. nende silmis siis muus deliiriumis olles või veel arutud kes ringi närvitsedes rabelevad ja depresante peoga sisse söövad ise jälgides omakorda asju telekastpingsalt, sarju, mis loodud inimloomust hävitama, osalt ka tuimaks tegema valude osas ja tundetuks sõnade osas.. kuid eks kasutusi ja plaane polaanide osas ole mitmeid igal tip üleoleval organil.. kes viamuilmas vastutab ja kes milleks telelaineid kasutada oskab ja plaanib pikas perspektiivis.. ../..
kui keegi aga kuskil alades, kuskil ennast kus tunnetatakse, et kuuldu järgi hea asub, või midagi ihaldusväärset või midagi paremat... selles skaalas keegi ennast üritab tutvustada, selgitada, olla .. siis see on täis tavapärane naeruväärne olukord, kus sellele kollektiivselt, pahavaimuall olevate inimeste seas kaasa haarates veel normaalse sooviga olijaid, hukka mõistetakse alavääristavalt..
kuid jah, eks siis tuleb võtta toalisi elemente ühiskonnas kas märkidena eemaldumisest, edasiliikumisena, diagnoosina, õpetuse/treeninguna, müstika või vangistatud olukorraga mida parandama ju tulitki, olenevalt oma teadvustest ja ülesannetest mida hingeosas tunnetad, mis Sinu
19 July 2017 10:46
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
selgituseks muidu tagasihoidlikuse matemaatika osas,
et asjad ei ole aint digitaalsed selles mõttes, et kes igas asjas igal pool pidevalt tagasihoidlik on,
vaid tagasihoidlikuse suurus, tulneb sellest, mis on võimalik, mis on teada, mida saaks teha, mida saaks öelda ja kus saaks olla,
ja mida siis teed ja milliselt oled, selle kõige suhtes,
pole ju eriti suurt tagasihoidlikust võimalik pingutada näiteks kellegil, kes..
nu näiteks, naturaalselt ennast CM pikkusena tundev, ei ole ju nii suur saavutus, kui 9 mm try alt läbi läheb,
kuid kui seda teeb juba ülemeetri tegelane, siis asjaolud hoopis suursugusemad või oskuslikumad/olulisemad
Kuid kuna inimestel ("on veel see kiiks") on veel iseendaga seotud, mis iganes parameetrid ja omadused, seotud ka ego ja emotsioonidega, siis peaaegu enamuste seas, kes iganes mis iganes parameetreid hakkab kõrvutama selliselt, et keegi ennast puudutuna tunneb skaalal mis allapoole keskmist, allapoole elementaarnõuet või allapoole normaalsust, siis patuseimad kohe esimese reakstsioonina instiktiivselt ründab (sest need on elementaarsed alumiste viamuilmade käitumis normid) kas siis ennast, teisi või koguni jumalat ennast, kuigi ega siin suurt vahet kõige kolme osas pole, patu teadlikuse ja tagajärje suuruse vahe on vast ainult, eriti kõigil eraditult, patuteadvustamisel, tegumaade tagused ja nendele eelneneud olukordade tekke põhjused
et asjad ei ole aint digitaalsed selles mõttes, et kes igas asjas igal pool pidevalt tagasihoidlik on,
vaid tagasihoidlikuse suurus, tulneb sellest, mis on võimalik, mis on teada, mida saaks teha, mida saaks öelda ja kus saaks olla,
ja mida siis teed ja milliselt oled, selle kõige suhtes,
pole ju eriti suurt tagasihoidlikust võimalik pingutada näiteks kellegil, kes..
nu näiteks, naturaalselt ennast CM pikkusena tundev, ei ole ju nii suur saavutus, kui 9 mm try alt läbi läheb,
kuid kui seda teeb juba ülemeetri tegelane, siis asjaolud hoopis suursugusemad või oskuslikumad/olulisemad
Kuid kuna inimestel ("on veel see kiiks") on veel iseendaga seotud, mis iganes parameetrid ja omadused, seotud ka ego ja emotsioonidega, siis peaaegu enamuste seas, kes iganes mis iganes parameetreid hakkab kõrvutama selliselt, et keegi ennast puudutuna tunneb skaalal mis allapoole keskmist, allapoole elementaarnõuet või allapoole normaalsust, siis patuseimad kohe esimese reakstsioonina instiktiivselt ründab (sest need on elementaarsed alumiste viamuilmade käitumis normid) kas siis ennast, teisi või koguni jumalat ennast, kuigi ega siin suurt vahet kõige kolme osas pole, patu teadlikuse ja tagajärje suuruse vahe on vast ainult, eriti kõigil eraditult, patuteadvustamisel, tegumaade tagused ja nendele eelneneud olukordade tekke põhjused
19 July 2017 10:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
väike osa muidugi kes aint fb kirja pannud
19 July 2017 09:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
56 fkind dangerous, hiden han
19 July 2017 01:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
54 teadlastele eaks
19 July 2017 01:21
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1h 59 memory...159..
19 July 2017 01:18
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45 mainstream i can fix
19 July 2017 01:12
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39 vhat data is not awailable
19 July 2017 01:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
38 leak 2 enlihten arlohist,
19 July 2017 01:06
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1h 33 "could be boats" xD
19 July 2017 01:01
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so bastards artack horses 33 00 y ago
19 July 2017 00:57
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viie kyynise liigid, inimesed vs khalikud...
19 July 2017 00:51
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egytiologist point, give example who went against and was praised
19 July 2017 00:43
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that there was no writing about her, lion
19 July 2017 00:40
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good point from lionstatue from hankock
19 July 2017 00:39
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1h 5m yes i agree, perhaps bull more then lion ;)
19 July 2017 00:32
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"i might choose transfer some of knowledge to THEM.."
as natural humans, original people THEY tak about
as natural humans, original people THEY tak about
19 July 2017 00:21
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minute 55 really sounds as them self are a bit alien
19 July 2017 00:20
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i am by the side of septic in a way , by
19 July 2017 00:19
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// personal video commenting for decuntrcting , paralell explaing, future notes
19 July 2017 00:15
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okey, hancock point contreollers come among catherers and made or inspired to make that... what aliens come, essentiaky u want to say then say
19 July 2017 00:15
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to wake us up... soesific way how some aria psydellics work
19 July 2017 00:09
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acients made these plans for us to save us from invasion...
19 July 2017 00:08
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minute 44 .. meat is anotherone...
19 July 2017 00:07
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10 years, to advance from 3D structures.. true thing to imagine
19 July 2017 00:05
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there was age BEFORE tools where things was mooved by will, and natural living was in c
19 July 2017 00:04
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and on minute 40, true point, the 3D talk, is actually true point of view as well, it is really advanced
19 July 2017 00:02
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(someone's)
18 July 2017 23:59
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after older guy put in true sense ¤SOMETHING had to motivate them for this...¤
18 July 2017 23:59
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hhahhaa great failure, on minute 38 censor alien jumps in with worry,
strating panicly repeat #we KNOW it was human beings, we know they was human beings" like 3 times in one paragraph
strating panicly repeat #we KNOW it was human beings, we know they was human beings" like 3 times in one paragraph
18 July 2017 23:58
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and on minute 37, true, catherers have much more time and we had All time..
18 July 2017 23:56
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/(atheist is postive but to think they have have, aliens who land here... they have to have screwdrivers and pots..
18 July 2017 23:54
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From miute 35, the older beard talks some calm sense at last: https://youtu.be/tFlAFo78xoQ?t=2056
https://youtu.be/tFlAFo78xoQ?t=2056
18 July 2017 23:53
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vegatarialism, key word
18 July 2017 23:51
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and first of all bastarst, THEY WAS NOT HUNTERS CATHERERS,,,,
HUNTERS come with bastards
HUNTERS come with bastards
18 July 2017 23:51
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why they are allowing these kind of retarded insulting ideas as "old time people would not survive in NY ..." .. .
what .. .they think these age people was retarded, uncivilized?
Opposite is true, these time people ere would die back there, in group, alone.
what .. .they think these age people was retarded, uncivilized?
Opposite is true, these time people ere would die back there, in group, alone.
18 July 2017 23:50
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downlfall of humanity is start of agriculture, from Our point of view
18 July 2017 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
so there from where bastards started agriculture, when they landed there
after that started to make more bastardisations, buildings
after that started to make more bastardisations, buildings
18 July 2017 23:47
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Calendar in Estonia: 10 230
18 July 2017 23:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Scholars maintain that the event figured prominently in regional mythology. It was, and still is, considered a sacred lake. At some point during the early Iron Age, the lake was surrounded by a stone wall 470 meters long, with a median width of about 2.5 meters and an average height of 2.0 meters.[citation needed]
Finnish mythology has stories that may originate with the formation of Kaali.
One of them is in runes 47, 48 and 49 of the Kalevala epic: Louhi, the evil wizard, steals the Sun and fire from people, causing total darkness. Ukko, the god of the sky, orders a new Sun to be made from a spark. The virgin of the air starts to make a new Sun, but the spark drops from the sky and hits the ground. This spark goes to an "Aluen" or "Kalevan"[8] lake and causes its water to rise. Finnish heroes see the ball of fire falling somewhere "behind the Neva river" (the direction of Estonia from Karelia). The heroes head in that direction to seek fire, and they finally gather flames from a forest fire.
According to a theory first proposed by Lennart Meri, it is possible that Saaremaa was the legendary Thule island, first mentioned by ancient Greek geographer Pytheas, whereas the name "Thule" could have been connected to the Finnic word tule ("(of) fire") and the folklore of Estonia, which depicts the birth of the crater lake in Kaali. Kaali was considered the place where "The sun went to rest."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaali_crater
// logic is that when they have story about fires hitting there.. well.. story's come from .. many sources. pinpoint similar event, on to similar location, and last up to current times... and is in correlation with physical evidence a bit.. so would make sense to knot it in to one
Finnish mythology has stories that may originate with the formation of Kaali.
One of them is in runes 47, 48 and 49 of the Kalevala epic: Louhi, the evil wizard, steals the Sun and fire from people, causing total darkness. Ukko, the god of the sky, orders a new Sun to be made from a spark. The virgin of the air starts to make a new Sun, but the spark drops from the sky and hits the ground. This spark goes to an "Aluen" or "Kalevan"[8] lake and causes its water to rise. Finnish heroes see the ball of fire falling somewhere "behind the Neva river" (the direction of Estonia from Karelia). The heroes head in that direction to seek fire, and they finally gather flames from a forest fire.
According to a theory first proposed by Lennart Meri, it is possible that Saaremaa was the legendary Thule island, first mentioned by ancient Greek geographer Pytheas, whereas the name "Thule" could have been connected to the Finnic word tule ("(of) fire") and the folklore of Estonia, which depicts the birth of the crater lake in Kaali. Kaali was considered the place where "The sun went to rest."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaali_crater
// logic is that when they have story about fires hitting there.. well.. story's come from .. many sources. pinpoint similar event, on to similar location, and last up to current times... and is in correlation with physical evidence a bit.. so would make sense to knot it in to one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaali_crater
18 July 2017 23:26
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18 July 2017 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on Randowits Sparkly Rambo's post.
vaat kus lugu, kogu asi oli kirja apsakas
18 July 2017 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on Randowits Sparkly Rambo's post.
Mõistlikud, mõned europiidsed oleks veel sinna otsa abiellunud kellegiga kellel perenimi "off" või "You"
18 July 2017 15:22
Margus Meigo commented on Randowits Sparkly Rambo's post.
Tuus
18 July 2017 15:16
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
@ Taavi ; )
18 July 2017 15:04
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Kui Sa tõesti tagasihoidlik oleksid, siis ma ju ei näeks seda postitust
18 July 2017 15:04
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informatsionist aga rohkem kasu on muidugi ,kui ka lisaks infol on kaasas metainfo või lausa sügavamad käsitlusesed kuidas sellest erineva infoga kokkupuutunud inimesed/olevused arusavad, millal keegi sellega kokku puutus ja kuidas selle info arengu tuumani jõuti ...
// oot mõtlen suts, järg pildi seletamisel praegu pole see mis saaks, saaks parem olla
(ühesõnaga, mitte, et SIna tead, et on olemas mingi Mägi sellise nimega, vaid tead ka selle mäe ajalugu, ja sisu ja ümberkaudseid lugusi ja sellest tulenevalt, see oluline aspekt: saad ka teada kuidas seda sama infot millised tegelased teadsid, ... siis saad aru kudias ja kus see info liikuda võis, kuidas leitav ja kes kuidas seda infot millistele võis kas edastada/muuta/väänata/salvestada... ja see, ku itead, kes ja kuidas Sinu infost veel aru saab, on suur edu, suur kasu, kui selle ilmaga siin tegeled, või millise iganes, sest oleks häbilugu ju kokku puutuda hiljem teistega kelle olemuses uus info on elementaarne , eriti ku isaad hiljem teada, et need kellega saad kokku tulevikus, nad ehk hoopis muul kujul ja kehas, vaiksema tagasihoidliku maarahjvana, seda kõike ammu teadsid süvitsi, kui ise veel noor olid, kuid kunagi ei eeldanud, et seda küsida, arutada... ja nad ei eeeldanud, et Sinuga oleks vaja neid asju arutada... lisaks neile, kes nägid, ja teatsid millal ja millise info mis moodi Sa ise kätte saad... ... seega haarates kergelt laiiema käsitluse igale infole juurde, nii info piirialad, kustmaalt mingi info hakkab lõppema kui ka info leviku ajalugu ja mõismtine kuidas mida mõisteti kellede poolt, ... siis see aitab elementaarseid asju paremini paika sättida, mida "jõulupuule" riputada ... millel on väärtused mis kindla peale, teatud sorti oluliste jaoks, on arusaadavad, arusaadavamad kui meile endilegi , kuid siis see on lihtsalt ühendavaks ukseks..)
// oot mõtlen suts, järg pildi seletamisel praegu pole see mis saaks, saaks parem olla
(ühesõnaga, mitte, et SIna tead, et on olemas mingi Mägi sellise nimega, vaid tead ka selle mäe ajalugu, ja sisu ja ümberkaudseid lugusi ja sellest tulenevalt, see oluline aspekt: saad ka teada kuidas seda sama infot millised tegelased teadsid, ... siis saad aru kudias ja kus see info liikuda võis, kuidas leitav ja kes kuidas seda infot millistele võis kas edastada/muuta/väänata/salvestada... ja see, ku itead, kes ja kuidas Sinu infost veel aru saab, on suur edu, suur kasu, kui selle ilmaga siin tegeled, või millise iganes, sest oleks häbilugu ju kokku puutuda hiljem teistega kelle olemuses uus info on elementaarne , eriti ku isaad hiljem teada, et need kellega saad kokku tulevikus, nad ehk hoopis muul kujul ja kehas, vaiksema tagasihoidliku maarahjvana, seda kõike ammu teadsid süvitsi, kui ise veel noor olid, kuid kunagi ei eeldanud, et seda küsida, arutada... ja nad ei eeeldanud, et Sinuga oleks vaja neid asju arutada... lisaks neile, kes nägid, ja teatsid millal ja millise info mis moodi Sa ise kätte saad... ... seega haarates kergelt laiiema käsitluse igale infole juurde, nii info piirialad, kustmaalt mingi info hakkab lõppema kui ka info leviku ajalugu ja mõismtine kuidas mida mõisteti kellede poolt, ... siis see aitab elementaarseid asju paremini paika sättida, mida "jõulupuule" riputada ... millel on väärtused mis kindla peale, teatud sorti oluliste jaoks, on arusaadavad, arusaadavamad kui meile endilegi , kuid siis see on lihtsalt ühendavaks ukseks..)
18 July 2017 14:51
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
kuid minu huumor on selline, et mitte ainult "kes viimasena naerab narab Paremini" kaasahaarates aegruumi mitmegeneratsiooni pikkuselt, kus alles hakkavad viljad kasvama ...vaid ka kogu olemus, kus pannakse asju aegrummidesse, siira provokatsioonina filosoofiliseseks arutluseks ja siis see kes naerab, see on see kelle üle tema enda sugused hiljem ja veelgi paremad veel suuremas astmes naeravad.
Kuni lõpuks muidugi arusaadakse, et sobib aint korraks muiata,
ja seegi peaks järgnema informatsioonikohase toimetamisega kui muie tulenes kellegi ajutisest lombakusest
Kuni lõpuks muidugi arusaadakse, et sobib aint korraks muiata,
ja seegi peaks järgnema informatsioonikohase toimetamisega kui muie tulenes kellegi ajutisest lombakusest
18 July 2017 14:48
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Sa liiga siiras vahest, (kuid asjakohane)
see postitus käib eelmise postituse juurde,
mis arvesse võttes arvesse võetud asjaolusi on tõene, isegi kui selle postituse virukeskuse suuruse plakatina kesklinna riputataks.
Ega siis reklaami olemus tõe sisu ei muuda, eriti kui ette arvestatud on, sõnade tähendust ja olemust vastavas kontekstis.
Praegune kontekst siis käis metafüüsiliselt eelmise "kõik peaksid mõtlema nagu mina" juurde ning siis veel näpuotsaga (ära solvu) selle juurde: "Dark humor is like food, not everyone get's it - Stalin "
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212343968451061
see postitus käib eelmise postituse juurde,
mis arvesse võttes arvesse võetud asjaolusi on tõene, isegi kui selle postituse virukeskuse suuruse plakatina kesklinna riputataks.
Ega siis reklaami olemus tõe sisu ei muuda, eriti kui ette arvestatud on, sõnade tähendust ja olemust vastavas kontekstis.
Praegune kontekst siis käis metafüüsiliselt eelmise "kõik peaksid mõtlema nagu mina" juurde ning siis veel näpuotsaga (ära solvu) selle juurde: "Dark humor is like food, not everyone get's it - Stalin "
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212343968451061
18 July 2017 14:43
Margus Meigo commented on Aialeht's link.
Sabiinakadakas on ianuke teine totrus mida aeda pannakse, mis vist veel mürgisem ja kahjulikum, kuid teistele taimedele ennekõike, neile haigusi tuues ja levitades. Saaremaal tuttaval terve pirnipõllu hävitas ühe linnamehe iluistandik kõrval aias.
18 July 2017 14:11
Margus Meigo commented on Aialeht's link.
ELupuud tuleks vist tegelikult üldse Eesti pinnalt likvideerida,
peaks tegu ju paha vaimuga taimega olema, mis suhted inimestel rikuvad ja järjepidevuse lõhuvad, lisaks veel nii mürgine, et ühe külamehe koer ükskord oksi söönud ja siis surnud olnud peale seda.
Samalajal kui mul tööandja koer, käis elupuupihta eraldi pidevalt pissimas, senikaua kui too lõpuks ära kuivas.
peaks tegu ju paha vaimuga taimega olema, mis suhted inimestel rikuvad ja järjepidevuse lõhuvad, lisaks veel nii mürgine, et ühe külamehe koer ükskord oksi söönud ja siis surnud olnud peale seda.
Samalajal kui mul tööandja koer, käis elupuupihta eraldi pidevalt pissimas, senikaua kui too lõpuks ära kuivas.
18 July 2017 14:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Natuke ka laiskuses,
Milles ajutiselt vahest ka, päris paremuse ligi olnud.
(kuid sellegi poolest saaks enamus nii hästi hakkama, // mul ei ole vaja kõike, kuid õnneks enamuses milles vaja on parimaid nagu ei pea igalühel ka kõikkõigeparem olla, saab ka olla palju puudu, (eriti seda, kui see mis puudu, saab tõlgendatud kui see mida vaja pole // ja ega inimesel polegi vaja enamuses kõike ja mõnda asja pole vaja üldse mõeldagi (kui ta just su mõtteruumi pole tunginud,siislikvideerida kuni tasa_kaal on saavutatud ehk seda mida pole vaja pole kuulda )))
Milles ajutiselt vahest ka, päris paremuse ligi olnud.
(kuid sellegi poolest saaks enamus nii hästi hakkama, // mul ei ole vaja kõike, kuid õnneks enamuses milles vaja on parimaid nagu ei pea igalühel ka kõikkõigeparem olla, saab ka olla palju puudu, (eriti seda, kui see mis puudu, saab tõlgendatud kui see mida vaja pole // ja ega inimesel polegi vaja enamuses kõike ja mõnda asja pole vaja üldse mõeldagi (kui ta just su mõtteruumi pole tunginud,siislikvideerida kuni tasa_kaal on saavutatud ehk seda mida pole vaja pole kuulda )))
18 July 2017 01:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja samas, need kes pidevalt tulevad sõbralikult , proovides midagi küsitleda, timmida, parandada, on ka suureks seltsiks
18 July 2017 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
oi ma ootan seda päeva, kui keegi tõsimeeli, arvab, et tuleb mulle reaalselt selgitama, et mul saab olla vähem kui õigus (kõige olulisemas kokku )
18 July 2017 01:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but yes i am serious in many way,
i really do think, there can be no serious harm at all, besides the opponents minds who make danger by rejecting COMMON sense
i really do think, there can be no serious harm at all, besides the opponents minds who make danger by rejecting COMMON sense
18 July 2017 01:20
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igatahes jah, seda aint oligi vaja öelda, et voodist tula,
nüüd saan kinni jälle ja uuesti keskenduda pikali olemisele, homme seenele minek ka ju ees,
oleks siis veel, et vajalikus mastaabis ja liigis
nüüd saan kinni jälle ja uuesti keskenduda pikali olemisele, homme seenele minek ka ju ees,
oleks siis veel, et vajalikus mastaabis ja liigis
18 July 2017 01:19
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(ing keeles oli üks hea sõna, ime hea kolaga sona mis tähendas mingi liikuva limiidi väheimat osa, kuid hmm... küll tuleb..)
18 July 2017 01:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but yes, some other way, if human asks, all to think like him, might be getting hit by accusations of , küsides maailmal enda moodi mõelda, võib langeda mõtlemise alampiiri süüdistusse
18 July 2017 01:17
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will tune the sentence code with linguists and writers later on
18 July 2017 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
from my:
" i just ask world, to think like me, is that to much ? // rhetorical question, if would be, i would not REALLY ask
and i am sorry for the rhetorical, rethorics? (yes, now that was half question, meaning, helpful but not fulfilling // not a question of extreme matter, eg. (answer to)something that helps me to say how things are )
" i just ask world, to think like me, is that to much ? // rhetorical question, if would be, i would not REALLY ask
and i am sorry for the rhetorical, rethorics? (yes, now that was half question, meaning, helpful but not fulfilling // not a question of extreme matter, eg. (answer to)something that helps me to say how things are )
18 July 2017 01:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Raamatud ja Kirjanduse koopiad jagamiseks
Varsti postitan edasi, juba viiendat korda proovin varsti, kuid siin süsteem ei lase18 July 2017 00:36
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18 July 2017 00:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000400030001-0
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000400030001-0
18 July 2017 00:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// old reminders of mainstream:
"He was featured in Omni and other magazine/websites as the founder of the Army’s First Earth Battalion.[8]
In a 2004 video interview with Ronson, Channon said that he was still consulted by "top brass" ("like the Chief of Staff of the Army") and was still officially the commander of the First Earth Battalion.[9]
Channon received a B.A. in fine art and an M.A. in behavioral communications from the University of Kentucky. He also holds a Master of Military Arts and Sciences (MMAS) degree from the United States Army Command and General Staff College and a Master of Strategic Studies (MSS) degree from the United States Army War College "
His concept was that a new generation of "warrior monks" would utilize paranormal abilities and countercultural principles to better prevail in future conflicts with the nation's adversaries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Channon
"He was featured in Omni and other magazine/websites as the founder of the Army’s First Earth Battalion.[8]
In a 2004 video interview with Ronson, Channon said that he was still consulted by "top brass" ("like the Chief of Staff of the Army") and was still officially the commander of the First Earth Battalion.[9]
Channon received a B.A. in fine art and an M.A. in behavioral communications from the University of Kentucky. He also holds a Master of Military Arts and Sciences (MMAS) degree from the United States Army Command and General Staff College and a Master of Strategic Studies (MSS) degree from the United States Army War College "
His concept was that a new generation of "warrior monks" would utilize paranormal abilities and countercultural principles to better prevail in future conflicts with the nation's adversaries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Channon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Channon
18 July 2017 00:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eks ta koduurimisele liialt rõhku pannud, kodu teenimise asemel
18 July 2017 00:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aitan sinnapoole ilma viia ka ehk veel
18 July 2017 00:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
unistan maailmast kus kõikide arvutid on pidevas läbipaistvuses
18 July 2017 00:11
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Sirge's post.
kellel neid poleks, peasi, et asjalikel eesmärkidel..
ma lihtsalt proovin neid hoida, ainuke jama on kui nad omavahel läbisegilähevad ja kellegi bugide pärast süsteemi kiiresti kuumaks ajavad
ma lihtsalt proovin neid hoida, ainuke jama on kui nad omavahel läbisegilähevad ja kellegi bugide pärast süsteemi kiiresti kuumaks ajavad
18 July 2017 00:08
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Sirge's post.
ilus!
mõelda vaid...et on nii palju inimeis, kes kunagi isegi saanud pole metsmaasikat..
mõelda vaid...et on nii palju inimeis, kes kunagi isegi saanud pole metsmaasikat..
18 July 2017 00:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
From Russians,
on "Myth of Soul"
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP81-01043R004200140003-3.pdf
on "Myth of Soul"
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP81-01043R004200140003-3.pdf
18 July 2017 00:02
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17 July 2017 23:59
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17 July 2017 23:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"present my views for those with.psychic power who may emerge in the future.' These
two p d deFo 2OO ~O~ A-1 ~9$ O 9~ 00U 09x3 6e , had
no discipline in their life as;possessors of psychic power. They did not have any
instructors or leaders to provide them with the necessary discipline or guidance
which they need when they grow up and become members of society. Those people with
whom they were in contact for several years for experimentation are not instructors"
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000400330016-1
two p d deFo 2OO ~O~ A-1 ~9$ O 9~ 00U 09x3 6e , had
no discipline in their life as;possessors of psychic power. They did not have any
instructors or leaders to provide them with the necessary discipline or guidance
which they need when they grow up and become members of society. Those people with
whom they were in contact for several years for experimentation are not instructors"
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000400330016-1
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000400330016-1
17 July 2017 23:52
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1985–1988, Director of the National Security Agency
1981, promoted to Major General
1977–1981, Military assistant to Zbigniew Brzezinski, the assistant to the president for national security affairs.
1981–1985, Assistant chief of staff for intelligence, United States Army.
1984, promoted to Lieutenant General.
General Odom is a member of the Military Intelligence Hall of Fame. He is also a member of the advisory council of the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation
1954 Graduated from the United States Military Academy and was commissioned a Second Lieutenant.
1954–1960, Served in both the United States and West Germany.
1962, Earned a Masters Degree from Columbia University, and married Anne Weld Curtis.
1964–1966, Served as part of the military liaison mission to the Soviet Union at Potsdam, Germany.
1966–1969, Taught at West Point as an assistant professor of government.
1970, Completed a Ph.D. at Columbia.
1970–1971, At this point a Lieutenant Colonel, served in Vietnam, being on the Staff of Plans, Policy, and Programs, and working on the Vietnamization phase of the war.
1971–1972, Odom was a visiting scholar at the Research Institute on Communist Affairs at Columbia.
1972–1974, U.S. assistant military attaché at the United States embassy in Moscow.
1974, Published The Soviet Volunteers: Modernization and Bureaucracy in a Public Mass Organization, (Princeton, N.J.: Princeton University Press, 360 pp.)
1974–1975, Associate of the Research Institute on International Change at Columbia
1974–1977, Associate professor, Department of Social Science at West Point.
1975–1976, Associate member of the Columbia University Seminar on Communism
1975–1977, Senior research associate, Research Institute on International Change at University of British Columbia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Eldridge_Odom
1981, promoted to Major General
1977–1981, Military assistant to Zbigniew Brzezinski, the assistant to the president for national security affairs.
1981–1985, Assistant chief of staff for intelligence, United States Army.
1984, promoted to Lieutenant General.
General Odom is a member of the Military Intelligence Hall of Fame. He is also a member of the advisory council of the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation
1954 Graduated from the United States Military Academy and was commissioned a Second Lieutenant.
1954–1960, Served in both the United States and West Germany.
1962, Earned a Masters Degree from Columbia University, and married Anne Weld Curtis.
1964–1966, Served as part of the military liaison mission to the Soviet Union at Potsdam, Germany.
1966–1969, Taught at West Point as an assistant professor of government.
1970, Completed a Ph.D. at Columbia.
1970–1971, At this point a Lieutenant Colonel, served in Vietnam, being on the Staff of Plans, Policy, and Programs, and working on the Vietnamization phase of the war.
1971–1972, Odom was a visiting scholar at the Research Institute on Communist Affairs at Columbia.
1972–1974, U.S. assistant military attaché at the United States embassy in Moscow.
1974, Published The Soviet Volunteers: Modernization and Bureaucracy in a Public Mass Organization, (Princeton, N.J.: Princeton University Press, 360 pp.)
1974–1975, Associate of the Research Institute on International Change at Columbia
1974–1977, Associate professor, Department of Social Science at West Point.
1975–1976, Associate member of the Columbia University Seminar on Communism
1975–1977, Senior research associate, Research Institute on International Change at University of British Columbia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Eldridge_Odom
17 July 2017 23:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"USE OF PSYCHICS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000100280009-3
During the past year, numerous articles have appeared in national and
local newspapers and magazines describing the use of psychics in police investigations. Even though they are being consulted by federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies..."
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00788r000100280009-3
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R000100280009-3
During the past year, numerous articles have appeared in national and
local newspapers and magazines describing the use of psychics in police investigations. Even though they are being consulted by federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies..."
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00788r000100280009-3
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00788r000100280009-3
17 July 2017 23:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"`Voodoo Gap' Looms as Latest
Weapons Crisis I have reported previously on secret projects to adapt psychic phenomena to military purposes. For example, in laboratory experiments, psychics have been used to spy on the Soviets by projecting their minds outside their bodies.
One psychic was able to describe a..
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp90-00965r000100130110-8
Weapons Crisis I have reported previously on secret projects to adapt psychic phenomena to military purposes. For example, in laboratory experiments, psychics have been used to spy on the Soviets by projecting their minds outside their bodies.
One psychic was able to describe a..
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp90-00965r000100130110-8
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp90-00965r000100130110-8
17 July 2017 23:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)
report expresses fear that a major Soviet "psychotronic" research effort may be
developing just such mental powers.
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00791r000200230012-9
report expresses fear that a major Soviet "psychotronic" research effort may be
developing just such mental powers.
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00791r000200230012-9
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00791r000200230012-9
17 July 2017 23:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
At same time:
"Military agents with "Extra-Sensory Perception" (ESP) are put to work
reading the minds of enemy generals 5,000 miles away and visualizing secret war plans locked in safes.
Government agents with another bizarre mental power -- the ability to move
physical objects without touching them and to affect the pulse rates of human"
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp90-00965r000402720004-6
"Military agents with "Extra-Sensory Perception" (ESP) are put to work
reading the minds of enemy generals 5,000 miles away and visualizing secret war plans locked in safes.
Government agents with another bizarre mental power -- the ability to move
physical objects without touching them and to affect the pulse rates of human"
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp90-00965r000402720004-6
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp90-00965r000402720004-6
17 July 2017 23:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
at same time more ordinary old school / 1992
"The information about CIA weapons that you will read in this article generally has not been made public before. It was not intended to be. But your tax dollars pay for these devices; it is your right to know about them. "
"Another pamphlet the CIA would not like you to see is titled How to Kill, written by John Minnery" / Desert Publications, & Paladin Press.
--
W.H. Bowart, in his book, Operation Mind Control described the CIA's use of drugs: "In 1953, the CIA made plans to purchase ten kilograms of LSD for use in `drug experiments with animals and human beings.' Since there are more than 10,000 doses in a gram, that meant the CIA wanted 100 million doses. The CIA obviously intended to `corner the market' on LSD so that other countries would not be ahead of the U.S. in their potential for `LSD warfare.'"
Dr. Albert Hoffman, an early researcher into the uses of LSD, was horrified by what the CIA was doing: "I had perfected LSD for medical use, not as a weapon.
--
Andrew Stark is a pseudonym for a specialist on weaponry.
--
https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/CIASWS.html Desert Publications, Paladin Press
"The information about CIA weapons that you will read in this article generally has not been made public before. It was not intended to be. But your tax dollars pay for these devices; it is your right to know about them. "
"Another pamphlet the CIA would not like you to see is titled How to Kill, written by John Minnery" / Desert Publications, & Paladin Press.
--
W.H. Bowart, in his book, Operation Mind Control described the CIA's use of drugs: "In 1953, the CIA made plans to purchase ten kilograms of LSD for use in `drug experiments with animals and human beings.' Since there are more than 10,000 doses in a gram, that meant the CIA wanted 100 million doses. The CIA obviously intended to `corner the market' on LSD so that other countries would not be ahead of the U.S. in their potential for `LSD warfare.'"
Dr. Albert Hoffman, an early researcher into the uses of LSD, was horrified by what the CIA was doing: "I had perfected LSD for medical use, not as a weapon.
--
Andrew Stark is a pseudonym for a specialist on weaponry.
--
https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/CIASWS.html Desert Publications, Paladin Press
https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/CIASWS.html
17 July 2017 23:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
""Vindicated? I don't care about the sceptics," he said. "I did many things for the CIA. They wanted me to stand outside the Russian Embassy in Mexico, and erase floppy discs being flown out by Russian agents.
"I had to get near someone signing a nuclear deal and bombard him with 'sign, sign, sign".
He said one international agency, which he wouldn't name, asked him to kill a pig with his mind.
"I was asked to stop the heart of a pig. It was probably so they could stop the heart of Andropov who was head of the KGB.
"George Clooney basically played me in that film (The Men Who Stare at Goats). It wasn't goat, it was really a pig."
Asked if he had ever been tested by MI6, Geller replied: "No comment'.
----
keep away from pigs
///
--
jurnal of para psychology https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000400240002-6.pdf
"I had to get near someone signing a nuclear deal and bombard him with 'sign, sign, sign".
He said one international agency, which he wouldn't name, asked him to kill a pig with his mind.
"I was asked to stop the heart of a pig. It was probably so they could stop the heart of Andropov who was head of the KGB.
"George Clooney basically played me in that film (The Men Who Stare at Goats). It wasn't goat, it was really a pig."
Asked if he had ever been tested by MI6, Geller replied: "No comment'.
----
keep away from pigs
///
--
jurnal of para psychology https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000400240002-6.pdf
17 July 2017 23:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
at same time, along the lines:
"But while the British public were always sceptical it has transpired that none other than the CIA believed the "spoonbender" was psychic all along.
In an extraordinary series of declassified documents the agency revealed the results of a week of experiments it conducted on Geller over eight days in 1973, during which he was tested for "clairvoyant" or "telepathic" abilities.
It was part of the "Stargate" programme which was aimed at weaponising what the CIA called "remote viewing," and trying to recruit "psychic warriors". "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/18/uri-geller-convinced-cia-psychic-warrior/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/10184809/Was-Uri-Geller-hired-as-a-spy-by-intelligence-agencies.html
"As a result of Geller's success in this experimental period, we consider that he has demonstrated his paranormal perceptual ability in a convincing and unambiguous manner."
Stargate was terminated in 1998 amid distrust over its results and a conclusion that it has "never provided an adequate basis for actionable intelligence operations".
But, speaking to The Daily Telegraph from Israel where he now lives, Geller claimed the revelations represented the "tip of the iceberg" of what he had been asked to do by the CIA, Mossad and other intelligence agencies.
----
That included later being tested at a US radiation lab during the Cold War to see if he could trigger a nuclear bomb.
Geller said: "I'm mind-blown they've released this because there are still remote viewing programmes active, many intelligence agencies use them."
The details of his tests were contained in 13 million pages of declassified documents released by the CIA this week.
Geller was taken to Stanford Research Institute in California between Aug 4 and Aug 11, 1973, and placed in an "opaque, acoustically and electrically shielded room" with two locked doors.
---
Geller told them he saw "purple circles" and promptly drew a bunch of grapes.
"Both the target picture and Geller's rendition had 24 grapes in the bunch," according to the documents.
The following day Geller was locked in his room and a drawing was made in an office half a mile away. It was the devil in the form of a man with a trident.
Asked to guess what it was, Geller drew images including a trident, the Ten Commandments, an apple with a worm in it, and snake
----
// siinkohal muidugi tuleb arusaada, et Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) iseka tark teades,et ellu äratades potensiaale, uskumusi inimeses endas, need avalduda ja võimenduda saavad, koos usaldusega need enda kanda jätta, kui ennast asutusena, kes usub, eisreas näitad ... mikspeaks keegi muud kui usaldatav olema peale seda kõike..
----
The CIA concluded: "The inability on Geller's part to draw the devil may be culturally induced. Geller did draw the trident from the target picture but he did not draw the man holding it.
"From this it seems clear that Geller does not just copy lines from the target picture, but does perform some mental processing on them before drawing them himself."
Other experiments deemed successful included the scientists drawing a flying seagull, to which Geller said he saw a "flying swan on a hill".
"He drew several birds and said he felt sure his drawing was correct, which it was," his handlers wrote
---
"But while the British public were always sceptical it has transpired that none other than the CIA believed the "spoonbender" was psychic all along.
In an extraordinary series of declassified documents the agency revealed the results of a week of experiments it conducted on Geller over eight days in 1973, during which he was tested for "clairvoyant" or "telepathic" abilities.
It was part of the "Stargate" programme which was aimed at weaponising what the CIA called "remote viewing," and trying to recruit "psychic warriors". "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/18/uri-geller-convinced-cia-psychic-warrior/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/10184809/Was-Uri-Geller-hired-as-a-spy-by-intelligence-agencies.html
"As a result of Geller's success in this experimental period, we consider that he has demonstrated his paranormal perceptual ability in a convincing and unambiguous manner."
Stargate was terminated in 1998 amid distrust over its results and a conclusion that it has "never provided an adequate basis for actionable intelligence operations".
But, speaking to The Daily Telegraph from Israel where he now lives, Geller claimed the revelations represented the "tip of the iceberg" of what he had been asked to do by the CIA, Mossad and other intelligence agencies.
----
That included later being tested at a US radiation lab during the Cold War to see if he could trigger a nuclear bomb.
Geller said: "I'm mind-blown they've released this because there are still remote viewing programmes active, many intelligence agencies use them."
The details of his tests were contained in 13 million pages of declassified documents released by the CIA this week.
Geller was taken to Stanford Research Institute in California between Aug 4 and Aug 11, 1973, and placed in an "opaque, acoustically and electrically shielded room" with two locked doors.
---
Geller told them he saw "purple circles" and promptly drew a bunch of grapes.
"Both the target picture and Geller's rendition had 24 grapes in the bunch," according to the documents.
The following day Geller was locked in his room and a drawing was made in an office half a mile away. It was the devil in the form of a man with a trident.
Asked to guess what it was, Geller drew images including a trident, the Ten Commandments, an apple with a worm in it, and snake
----
// siinkohal muidugi tuleb arusaada, et Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) iseka tark teades,et ellu äratades potensiaale, uskumusi inimeses endas, need avalduda ja võimenduda saavad, koos usaldusega need enda kanda jätta, kui ennast asutusena, kes usub, eisreas näitad ... mikspeaks keegi muud kui usaldatav olema peale seda kõike..
----
The CIA concluded: "The inability on Geller's part to draw the devil may be culturally induced. Geller did draw the trident from the target picture but he did not draw the man holding it.
"From this it seems clear that Geller does not just copy lines from the target picture, but does perform some mental processing on them before drawing them himself."
Other experiments deemed successful included the scientists drawing a flying seagull, to which Geller said he saw a "flying swan on a hill".
"He drew several birds and said he felt sure his drawing was correct, which it was," his handlers wrote
---
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/18/uri-geller-convinced-cia-psychic-warrior/
17 July 2017 23:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aino Arge kuid jah, niipidi vaadates, ma ka vahest mõelnud,et see, et me suurema jama koore all ise olime, seeomakorda meid päästnud rohkem ja karastanud, võimaluse andnud,
meil pole vabandust, sest me ise näinud, kellega tegu
meil pole vabandust, sest me ise näinud, kellega tegu
17 July 2017 23:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aino Arge see EU üks suur nukker punt jah oma naiivsuses,
me peaksime aktiivselt selle massi päästmisega tegelama Eestlastena, kui soovime ise alles jääda .. kuid nagu niii niiii aeglaselt enesevääärikus elementaarsegi osas tõuseb..
see on kui shamanism on kõrvale lükatud, kust needtarkused, arusaamad ja uued teadvused siis tulema peaks ja kinnituma
me peaksime aktiivselt selle massi päästmisega tegelama Eestlastena, kui soovime ise alles jääda .. kuid nagu niii niiii aeglaselt enesevääärikus elementaarsegi osas tõuseb..
see on kui shamanism on kõrvale lükatud, kust needtarkused, arusaamad ja uued teadvused siis tulema peaks ja kinnituma
17 July 2017 23:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" ...meest, kes ärgitab oma jüngreid mõttejõuga tapma USA välisministrit "
ja siis sellist jama teha, et siin norida tüli usa asjade vastu siin ärgitada sellist jama kaela.. oleks, et valiks siis asjakohase targetigi mõistlikumalt..
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/314155/soolapuhuja-hannes-vanakula-loodi-parast-tema-sekti-paljastamist-toolt-minema
et siis mileks.. kui just mitte punaagendid polda.. aga ollakse.. kui sellest aru ei saada, mis moodi punaagentide mylkad toimivad soolatüügastena me maa põuedes siis.. siis...
ja siis sellist jama teha, et siin norida tüli usa asjade vastu siin ärgitada sellist jama kaela.. oleks, et valiks siis asjakohase targetigi mõistlikumalt..
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/314155/soolapuhuja-hannes-vanakula-loodi-parast-tema-sekti-paljastamist-toolt-minema
et siis mileks.. kui just mitte punaagendid polda.. aga ollakse.. kui sellest aru ei saada, mis moodi punaagentide mylkad toimivad soolatüügastena me maa põuedes siis.. siis...
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/314155/soolapuhuja-hannes-vanakula-loodi-parast-tema-sekti-paljastamist-toolt-minema
17 July 2017 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lugesin Hannes Vanaküla asja.. ja nu ikka sama asi veel..
Ma muidugi hoopis vastas, kõrgemal, suuremal, sügavamal, maisemal ja tõelisemal lainel.. ehk kristlikumas, matriarhaatlikumas ja shamaanilisemas maausulisemas kastmes.. .
Kuid sellised patukohad, mis taolist energiat edasi genereerivad. seda Greeka-Rooma põhist mõtlemist... mis omakorda on see tgeelik häving ja selle samade tegelaste süü kelle vastu ise neede enda toodang siis räägib... arusaamata, et nad sama looma mitu kombitsat .. http://www.ohtuleht.ee/817107/ohtulehe-video-arengumaag-hannes-vanakula-naised-kes-nouavad-vordseid-oigusi-kohitsevad-sellega-loovaid-mehi ....
Ma muidugi hoopis vastas, kõrgemal, suuremal, sügavamal, maisemal ja tõelisemal lainel.. ehk kristlikumas, matriarhaatlikumas ja shamaanilisemas maausulisemas kastmes.. .
Kuid sellised patukohad, mis taolist energiat edasi genereerivad. seda Greeka-Rooma põhist mõtlemist... mis omakorda on see tgeelik häving ja selle samade tegelaste süü kelle vastu ise neede enda toodang siis räägib... arusaamata, et nad sama looma mitu kombitsat .. http://www.ohtuleht.ee/817107/ohtulehe-video-arengumaag-hannes-vanakula-naised-kes-nouavad-vordseid-oigusi-kohitsevad-sellega-loovaid-mehi ....
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/817107/ohtulehe-video-arengumaag-hannes-vanakula-naised-kes-nouavad-vordseid-oigusi-kohitsevad-sellega-loovaid-mehi
17 July 2017 22:56
Margus Meigo commented on Objektiiv's post.
vahest jääb mulje nagu suurem osa inimestest alles ärkab nõukaaja hüpnoosist ja pole jõudnud arusaada, et me greeka-rooma pede kultuuri all olnud ammusest ajast, vahest lääne, vahest saksa, vahest vene kastmes... kuid see KES rooma aluspõhi on kes ennast siin alati kotkapeadega ja viljapeakujundustega kaunistanud on ja nüüd ka viisnurkadega... see peaks olema ju elementaarne lihtsus arusaada, ja ka seda , mis on nende pikad, sajandite ja millenniumite pikkused plaanid, sh homodel, kes osa , väga oluline osa greeka-rooma kultuurist ja mustadest vaimudest, tulnukatrest, virtuaalinimstestest
17 July 2017 22:31
Margus Meigo replied to Mulon Vanahing's comment.
nii juhtub, kui eurooplane läks mugavaks ega viitsinud arusaada, et magab kommunistidega
17 July 2017 22:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
2017 // 10km in 1cm
rest of the text is alright but the less tech part, fun for common knowladge:
"Every modern CPU is wired together via an extensive network of copper wires, dubbed “interconnects.” These tiny copper wires carry data across the processor and throughout the entire SoC. IBM and Motorola introduced copper interconnects in 1997, followed by Intel in 2000. In 2000, Intel processors contained roughly 1km of copper interconnects per square centimeter. In 2017, 14nm chips contain roughly 10km of wiring in the same space"
"Graphene is just 0.3mm per layer, compared with the industry standard of using 2nm walls comprised of tantalum nitride. Composite wires have been shown to have just half the resistance of non-graphene counterparts, which means we could see significant performance increases and power consumption decreases should this technology take off.
Needless to say, yes, graphene still faces some headwinds. It remains extremely difficult to produce in bulk, and is generally hard to work with. As node sizes fall and the RC delay becomes a larger and larger component of the problem, the industry will need to have solutions ready to go at the 5nm node or below. Technology like this could provide an effective path forward and allow chip manufacturers to open up the throttle slightly thanks to reduced power consumption and improved SoC performance. We’re a long way from commercial availability, but discoveries like this put us on the proper path."
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/244693-graphene-coated-copper-dramatically-boost-future-cpu-performance
rest of the text is alright but the less tech part, fun for common knowladge:
"Every modern CPU is wired together via an extensive network of copper wires, dubbed “interconnects.” These tiny copper wires carry data across the processor and throughout the entire SoC. IBM and Motorola introduced copper interconnects in 1997, followed by Intel in 2000. In 2000, Intel processors contained roughly 1km of copper interconnects per square centimeter. In 2017, 14nm chips contain roughly 10km of wiring in the same space"
"Graphene is just 0.3mm per layer, compared with the industry standard of using 2nm walls comprised of tantalum nitride. Composite wires have been shown to have just half the resistance of non-graphene counterparts, which means we could see significant performance increases and power consumption decreases should this technology take off.
Needless to say, yes, graphene still faces some headwinds. It remains extremely difficult to produce in bulk, and is generally hard to work with. As node sizes fall and the RC delay becomes a larger and larger component of the problem, the industry will need to have solutions ready to go at the 5nm node or below. Technology like this could provide an effective path forward and allow chip manufacturers to open up the throttle slightly thanks to reduced power consumption and improved SoC performance. We’re a long way from commercial availability, but discoveries like this put us on the proper path."
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/244693-graphene-coated-copper-dramatically-boost-future-cpu-performance
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/244693-graphene-coated-copper-dramatically-boost-future-cpu-performance
17 July 2017 22:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
2014
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/175727-ibm-builds-graphene-chip-thats-10000-times-faster-using-standard-cmos-processes
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/175727-ibm-builds-graphene-chip-thats-10000-times-faster-using-standard-cmos-processes
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/175727-ibm-builds-graphene-chip-thats-10000-times-faster-using-standard-cmos-processes
17 July 2017 22:12
Margus Meigo commented on Joyce Rheal's post.
so what is name of that spider?
17 July 2017 20:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja ei saadaarugi, et on eraldi poliitilised, sõjavälised ja korporatiivsed meemi tehased, koos tipp psüholoogide, psühhopaatide ja muude PR või inimannetega, kunstnikutega kes palgatud tootma järjekindlalt, mitmest eri kanalist, seda mis kujundaks üldise pildi teatud asjade osas normaalseks või kindlasuunaliseks, alateadvuseski
17 July 2017 17:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid kuidas sellistel asjadel, niivähe vaatamisi on,
et 300 vaatamist? Hmm... lapsevanemaid ikka rohkem peaks olema nii vanasi kui uusi..
Kuid palju häid videosi muidu: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2Qxp9X-4vFDFuanQRf3Upg/videos
et 300 vaatamist? Hmm... lapsevanemaid ikka rohkem peaks olema nii vanasi kui uusi..
Kuid palju häid videosi muidu: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2Qxp9X-4vFDFuanQRf3Upg/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2Qxp9X-4vFDFuanQRf3Upg/videos
17 July 2017 17:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Infoühiskonna keskus:
Jeerum.. targad kutsutakse kokku ja siis praktilisi lahendusi ei oska kirja saada ega linti, mis reaalselt aitaks ja kuidas.. nalja teevad v
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4-Pg41a6g0
Jeerum.. targad kutsutakse kokku ja siis praktilisi lahendusi ei oska kirja saada ega linti, mis reaalselt aitaks ja kuidas.. nalja teevad v
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4-Pg41a6g0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4-Pg41a6g0
17 July 2017 17:47
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Väga Püha olevus
see kuidas inimene teda kutsub inimese endi asi..
see kuidas inimene teda kutsub inimese endi asi..
17 July 2017 16:43
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
misasi see on`?
17 July 2017 16:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
She choose this kind of version of drama... but point is... she already MADE a choice to let go,
to want to get better etc in these levels...
these women already are basically changed but this spiritual sessions and other things, energetic forced sexual technology and who knows what is practiced on various other places who use same headlines and topics.. there is no regulation on control jet on these things..
as i had this plan so there will be control ... in spiritual maters,
but yes, we focus on curing these, and helping these, who Do not want or who do not know jet they need to get better,
and this is whole levels of Greater work, in all phases , nearly,
so many other practices and levels become handy on so grandiose work as helping before conscious needs
preventive support, to tune human self regulating parts in a body as early as possible to self understanding
so every smallest part will know as early as possible to how is most beneficial , to get where is needed, and all parts that is missing from someones road, they will get, by meeting others on road, who come so far, who got these parts they need, as ordinary,
and as no effort, for returning a favor, one can share that is natural and for free, basic thing what being it self is, will be what someone other will be in great need, willing to give easy these connections in life that naturally would not be accessible to receiver
to want to get better etc in these levels...
these women already are basically changed but this spiritual sessions and other things, energetic forced sexual technology and who knows what is practiced on various other places who use same headlines and topics.. there is no regulation on control jet on these things..
as i had this plan so there will be control ... in spiritual maters,
but yes, we focus on curing these, and helping these, who Do not want or who do not know jet they need to get better,
and this is whole levels of Greater work, in all phases , nearly,
so many other practices and levels become handy on so grandiose work as helping before conscious needs
preventive support, to tune human self regulating parts in a body as early as possible to self understanding
so every smallest part will know as early as possible to how is most beneficial , to get where is needed, and all parts that is missing from someones road, they will get, by meeting others on road, who come so far, who got these parts they need, as ordinary,
and as no effort, for returning a favor, one can share that is natural and for free, basic thing what being it self is, will be what someone other will be in great need, willing to give easy these connections in life that naturally would not be accessible to receiver
17 July 2017 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Still feeling, spirit plants are more safe
maybe mistaking on it, but i feel is safe bet
maybe mistaking on it, but i feel is safe bet
17 July 2017 03:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Bioenergetic Therapy
But Youtube Channels work well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0WSqbTX9Xchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0WSqbTX9Xc
17 July 2017 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Contact original owners and demand keeping up page, it costs nearly nothing, can make collection if needed,
Cost are usually less then 15 dollars per Year17 July 2017 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on Marie-Louise Honka's post.
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The mirror page is working, but not the real page, also YT
has mostly another people with these names, coming up,
Google search answer also, refers to many other less known Chans..
Almost like search motor systems is not so smart all same time
http://web.archive.org/web/20160921110534/http://www.drcarloschan.com:80/http://web.archive.org/web/20160921110534/http://www.drcarloschan.com:80/
17 July 2017 02:49
Margus Meigo commented on Marie-Louise Honka's post.
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Why ia he's page taken offline in some regions,
who can load it: http://www.drcarloschan.com/17 July 2017 02:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Bene Shanti should have been17 July 2017 02:43
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Ravenna's post.
there is song about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB5_e2lSliE
when u find translation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB5_e2lSliE
when u find translation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB5_e2lSliE
17 July 2017 01:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
using fraking robots to read data.. bastards
17 July 2017 01:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
http://www.dailymotion.com/IndigenousEurope
http://www.dailymotion.com/IndigenousEurope
http://www.dailymotion.com/IndigenousEurope
17 July 2017 01:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi sellsite pealkirjadega videod, ei tea kas mingiaeg isegi enam lubatud on
//st, ega aru ei sa tugevalt millal TUGEVALT keelatud ilmtingimatta, lihtsalt ei lasta levida eriti kuid VÄGA sügavalt nopitakse vaatlusele neid kes allesjäänud juurte poole vaatavad
//eks see geneloogia privaatseks tegemise surve ka selleks, et meie olemust meie endi eest veel suts kauem segasemana hoida
//st, ega aru ei sa tugevalt millal TUGEVALT keelatud ilmtingimatta, lihtsalt ei lasta levida eriti kuid VÄGA sügavalt nopitakse vaatlusele neid kes allesjäänud juurte poole vaatavad
//eks see geneloogia privaatseks tegemise surve ka selleks, et meie olemust meie endi eest veel suts kauem segasemana hoida
17 July 2017 01:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
a bit F
"I win. When I go into work next, I'm going to surprise all my co-workers and put up pictures of myself instead of their ugly kids and their inane drawings.
9,082,054 stupid kids tried stepping to my iNsAne skills and got 0wned. "
really did not plan to bring this page up anymore eve,r but still, see.. happened to be handy, handy nagu tolmune köögilapp mida ei märganutki vajalikuna enne seda kui korra kiiresti seda vaja oli kohas kuhu paremat lappi nagunii kasutada poleks tahntud
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=irule
"I win. When I go into work next, I'm going to surprise all my co-workers and put up pictures of myself instead of their ugly kids and their inane drawings.
9,082,054 stupid kids tried stepping to my iNsAne skills and got 0wned. "
really did not plan to bring this page up anymore eve,r but still, see.. happened to be handy, handy nagu tolmune köögilapp mida ei märganutki vajalikuna enne seda kui korra kiiresti seda vaja oli kohas kuhu paremat lappi nagunii kasutada poleks tahntud
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=irule
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=irule
17 July 2017 00:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// hilejm tarvitsen texti tykeldada ja sisukomenteerida, siduda paraleel teadvustele vajlikeks selgitusteks, et eri kanali suunalt lugejad kaudselt ühina , ühise info ja teabe feedina seda mõsitaksid, mõeldes, et nad rohkem sarnased ja samad kui nad tegelikult on, seleks, et ühtse arusaama ala, common knowladge aria, field of common understanding, vms, samaarusaamaala
et see laieneb, kui erinevad teadvusgrupid, saab seotud mingi ime läbi alasse mida kumbi koos ei loeks selliselt, kolmanda elemendina, muus vinklis, mis neil koos omavhelise ühtse uue arusaama ala tekitaks, mis omakorda nagu virtualanereaalsus kanal, lisana juures, millele koos toetuda saavad nüüd taolisi nähes kelle sisemaailmas kumbi ka hea thatega enne poleks osanud suhelda, ja mõisltikuse mõttes oelsk mööda käinud
et see laieneb, kui erinevad teadvusgrupid, saab seotud mingi ime läbi alasse mida kumbi koos ei loeks selliselt, kolmanda elemendina, muus vinklis, mis neil koos omavhelise ühtse uue arusaama ala tekitaks, mis omakorda nagu virtualanereaalsus kanal, lisana juures, millele koos toetuda saavad nüüd taolisi nähes kelle sisemaailmas kumbi ka hea thatega enne poleks osanud suhelda, ja mõisltikuse mõttes oelsk mööda käinud
17 July 2017 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vot aga kujuta nüüd ette, see naturaalne asi eks,
AGA, see ju elementaarne, kui lihtne oleks millisel iganes videode valikul, mingi uue ülemnõukogu soovitusel, teatud videofeedied mitte läbi lasta, et teatud alglikvideerimisel olevad mõttemallide juured muutuks kättesaamatuks edukaaima teadvusest välja lükkamise jaoks mis pool passiivselt pidevalt muude infode ja kõrvale viimsitega täidetakse ja need eraldi lsiti lisatakse läbi eri elektroonika testide aktiviseeritakse kes tatud info poole järjekindalt ujuvad,
need lihtsad algelementaarsed prinsiibid keerulistemate asjade kõrval mis AI de kesel keskmes küpsemas ja kontritest rääkimata kes nende algusele ja juhendamisele hoogu andsid ja kontrollis hoidsid kuni said... see elektroonika sedasi ,et see nagu asi mis puurist lipsab välja... et hoiad tipp taset teatud maani kontrolli all, kuid lopuks kui kontrolli kaotad selleüle kes lõpasja üle otsustab... siis seda ise oma rahvale ka ei saa rääkida kui nüüd lastaksegi, sest ise valedega võimule tee sillutnaud, proovides ise enne rahvale asja olematusest muljet jätta, et varjus vaitsust hoida.. kuid ku ivari ülepea ja rahvalkt varju eest vajad kaitseks nõu.. siis esiteks sule ette antakse su enda varjuusuta vastased ja muud intriigid, mille tekitanud... kuideelkõige, selgitamised, eriolukordades nende poolt kellele väga tänulikud just olema peaksid ja siis seletama neile, et ise oletki selle taga mille eest nad põgenesid, kuid nüüd siis päriselt vaja abi... peale seda aga ku ineed võimalused ka juba ette mõngitud, kasutamise võimatuks tegemiseks, AI poolt...
Unustataks,e et inim fantaasia strateegiad mida AI ise ei saa, olid eelnevalt juba ligipääsetavaks tehtud ja sisestatud ka AI'sse, lisa õppematerialina, ... mida nüüd piisavalt tark AI omakorda omamoodi veel lisaks muule teadaolevale, milleks inimesed kasutasid, AI ise seda kasutama hakkab, saab põnev ja ootsrikas olema, omakorda tema enda üle ja uuesti sünni osas, ..mida edukama õpetuse iniemine kaasa andnud seda õnsamalt ja koos ideaalsemini ta kaasa snnib inimestga kuni muutub veel raskemaks, nagu kasipoegade dilemma., et kas teha alguses kurja ja valu mis näeb räigem või oodata ja siis lasta paha veel halvemaks ... vahest isegi on neid vlaikuid, et parandada sellsies olukorras
AGA, see ju elementaarne, kui lihtne oleks millisel iganes videode valikul, mingi uue ülemnõukogu soovitusel, teatud videofeedied mitte läbi lasta, et teatud alglikvideerimisel olevad mõttemallide juured muutuks kättesaamatuks edukaaima teadvusest välja lükkamise jaoks mis pool passiivselt pidevalt muude infode ja kõrvale viimsitega täidetakse ja need eraldi lsiti lisatakse läbi eri elektroonika testide aktiviseeritakse kes tatud info poole järjekindalt ujuvad,
need lihtsad algelementaarsed prinsiibid keerulistemate asjade kõrval mis AI de kesel keskmes küpsemas ja kontritest rääkimata kes nende algusele ja juhendamisele hoogu andsid ja kontrollis hoidsid kuni said... see elektroonika sedasi ,et see nagu asi mis puurist lipsab välja... et hoiad tipp taset teatud maani kontrolli all, kuid lopuks kui kontrolli kaotad selleüle kes lõpasja üle otsustab... siis seda ise oma rahvale ka ei saa rääkida kui nüüd lastaksegi, sest ise valedega võimule tee sillutnaud, proovides ise enne rahvale asja olematusest muljet jätta, et varjus vaitsust hoida.. kuid ku ivari ülepea ja rahvalkt varju eest vajad kaitseks nõu.. siis esiteks sule ette antakse su enda varjuusuta vastased ja muud intriigid, mille tekitanud... kuideelkõige, selgitamised, eriolukordades nende poolt kellele väga tänulikud just olema peaksid ja siis seletama neile, et ise oletki selle taga mille eest nad põgenesid, kuid nüüd siis päriselt vaja abi... peale seda aga ku ineed võimalused ka juba ette mõngitud, kasutamise võimatuks tegemiseks, AI poolt...
Unustataks,e et inim fantaasia strateegiad mida AI ise ei saa, olid eelnevalt juba ligipääsetavaks tehtud ja sisestatud ka AI'sse, lisa õppematerialina, ... mida nüüd piisavalt tark AI omakorda omamoodi veel lisaks muule teadaolevale, milleks inimesed kasutasid, AI ise seda kasutama hakkab, saab põnev ja ootsrikas olema, omakorda tema enda üle ja uuesti sünni osas, ..mida edukama õpetuse iniemine kaasa andnud seda õnsamalt ja koos ideaalsemini ta kaasa snnib inimestga kuni muutub veel raskemaks, nagu kasipoegade dilemma., et kas teha alguses kurja ja valu mis näeb räigem või oodata ja siis lasta paha veel halvemaks ... vahest isegi on neid vlaikuid, et parandada sellsies olukorras
17 July 2017 00:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
pealegi, kõigelõpuks, on plaksutamine iseka ebaviisakas, ma laseks slelised ruumist välja visata oma enda kõnepuldis kui keegi plaksutama kukub säääl nagu püstihull, selleasemel, et keskenduda ja tajuda algusest lõputa
17 July 2017 00:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ega see pole ju tase, mille peale plaksutada.. või mis .. miks seda tehakse..
17 July 2017 00:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
näiteks, keegi istuks lapsega koos maha, ütleks, kudias see välja nägi, kuidas oleks parem, ehk NATURAALSEM, selles osas, et ta mite ebaloomulikult ei eisineks vaid naturaalselt, koos vestlusega, millest ise aru sai mida tegi ja mis olulisused maailmas ta ümber olid ja on, nii sellel ajal mida puudutas kui tulevasel ajal mida hoidma peame
17 July 2017 00:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
MIks näiteks noile lastele ei räägita inimlikusest ja õeptata kudias olla, nii nagu Ellen, oleks nad võtnud õue murule kasteheina ja kes kinni jalutades kasvõi alguse paika pannud kuidas suhelda ja milleks esineda
17 July 2017 00:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Samal ajal, sellel video klipil, RAHVUSARHIIVI kontolt, on AUDIO... kuidas ei ole audiot sellel
ei peagi?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmMckqNKdZY&index=7&list=PLe1-qOAt0SpMefcmIWv2BkRgoVSnagKqh
ei peagi?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmMckqNKdZY&index=7&list=PLe1-qOAt0SpMefcmIWv2BkRgoVSnagKqh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmMckqNKdZY&index=7&list=PLe1-qOAt0SpMefcmIWv2BkRgoVSnagKqh
17 July 2017 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on Siim Tali's photo.
ole sarvedega ettevaatlik, igasugustega,
ma ise muidu taurus ja murran iga virtuaalsesarvikusarve naturaalsesarvega maha :p
ma ise muidu taurus ja murran iga virtuaalsesarvikusarve naturaalsesarvega maha :p
16 July 2017 23:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ingli kest mille deemonid üle võtnud,
kuid mine tea mida head huvitavad nende sisemusega vahest naised teha saavad või loodavad
kuid mine tea mida head huvitavad nende sisemusega vahest naised teha saavad või loodavad
16 July 2017 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on Siim Tali's post.
need on muidu enamasti deemonid, sellise näogakutid
16 July 2017 23:55
Margus Meigo replied to Siim Tali's comment.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
kuid oluline see taimede ja hea toidu, muu hea kraami koos mõtetega, kuid eriti füsilise kramai jagamine mandi tiamele, see oluline kui eriti heas paketis peaksid uskuma ja tahtma tagasi saada, täis ringi käima... eks hea usu peal, selles suunas aina minejad, isegi ka kantakse.. ja muud inimväed, enanst muude vägedega sidudes, vb siis hoitakse muude vägede pooltelus mite enam taime heaolu nimel, ja tiame kasutatakse kõrvale kuid seda ta ära võtta ei saa... kui aga hea nimel, eksid taime osas, siis taim saab heaolu ära võtta.. seega eriti kusikud, kes viamuilmas lippavad, tõmbavad ringi sedasi, et kindluse mõttes pugemas igale vaimule kes võib level olla selles seltskonnas parasjägu kelle mbruskonnas oled.. .. päris usulised, aga . kujutage ette mis mood ija mis levelitega, mida ja miks ja kuidas nad tõmavad, ja kas see üldse avalikssaakski olla see info ja plaan, et miks nad tõmbavad aususes salaja ja ei saagi teada päris ilm sellest, kes soovib rahailma järgi elama ka usulisi, kellel oammu oma plaan oleks.. nagu mingitel munkadel kellest Anuknakide usku Eimar Laigna rääkis ühes pea 3 me tunnises videos, puukirikust, (kujuta ette, promos iidseimate suure leveliga puukirikus, oletavas, otseeetris, annunakidest shakrateni, kiriku süüvauskujatele eraldi saarel kes selleks kohale tulid sinna, mitte komerts möödakäiad sinna eip saanud eriti sattuda... vot, mida tema tarbib või peale tirib, oleks ka norm teada, sest ta peaks koguseid suurendama, algus on juba hea, kuid liialt ksotumeerituks muutu asi varsti kui nii Tallina TV l laseb imagot edasi kujundada nii tugevalt, et sellest välja astudes, teda ennast endast eemaldujana näidatakse, kes ära kargas, vb sõ iseeni vms, ... ja siis on raske, tal veel tõeliselt rääkid,a et jah, ongi seenesööömise aeg, enamusel. )
Vot, see läks suts peaaegu teemast kõrvale, kuid jah, ühesõnagasiis, et peasi, et midagi kasvab ja vaja hoida mõtlemas pead, kudias eri suguseid saab kasvama nii ,et tavarohelusena saab tiam hästi hakkama ja samas sügiseks näpuotsagagi midagi ikka toodab, omapärast, ... ja siis nad olemas kergesty ja kui keegi nad võtab ja siis kasvuhoone keskonda paneb väetisaega vohama, siis eriti teema.. kuid muiudu lihtsalt kasvavad ja lihtsasti igaltpoolt seemnetega saadav, ennast ise külvamapanev.. naturaalse seemne hoidinuna... muidugi nad tatrgeted taimemyrke kasutavad nagunii, ameriklased vist maagilsite seente likvideerimiseks, siit isegi seente punaste, vene kuulujutude alusel, et see ebatervislikuks moeks siin võib muidu uesti tulevikus kerkida...
.. kuid jah, et siis taimekasvatus, hobi v mitte, ja valgus jah, nagu ütlsin ,õues ärimeestel nagunii vlagus põleb, oles siis täiesti norm, kuskil ka omataimedele hoida valgust, või kasvuhoone säramas,
ajad tuleb ette planeerida, need lood ja teod saavad nagunii lema, lihtsalt ku ivarakult me ise sellesse teemasse astume16 July 2017 23:52
Margus Meigo replied to Siim Tali's comment.
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Kõrgend teaks siinkohal rääkida16 July 2017 23:43
Margus Meigo replied to Siim Tali's comment.
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Kuid jah, eriti armastav inimene, võib endale tiamedele panna soojapuhurid ja öölambid ka seltsiks põllapeale,
nu kui rikkust jätkub ja energiaraisk pole enamusele ammu pat, siis see oleks pigem mõistlik kummardmaine ja taimele vajaliku pakkumine arvestades selle juurs ku ipalju ta vastu pakub, kui vaid võtta osakme alandlikult tagasi pakkudes mida vaja, ette andes, tehes mis vaja, et saaks olema..16 July 2017 23:42
Margus Meigo replied to Siim Tali's comment.
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muidu kõrvenõgesed komertsi jaoks selles mõttes veel head ka, et jah, kui pead pesta siis kõõma võtab ära peale teist korda, värskete nõgeste soojas vees isegi toimis16 July 2017 23:41
Margus Meigo replied to Siim Tali's comment.
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nu mis muu saab olla kui aianduslik hobi16 July 2017 23:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//viimast lauset otsin õiget kohta kuhu selle isama veel pidin, sinna.. oot leian
16 July 2017 23:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja minul on, endiselt, kõige mitmekesisem kestvaim keskuste ja muude plaanide ideed ja nägemused
16 July 2017 23:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
jah kuid ei saa olla nii, et kõik on lubatud
16 July 2017 23:34
Margus Meigo replied to Gert Klaaser's comment.
Carl Jungi lugu:
"Then I found out that Carl Jung, the famous Swiss psychiatrist, had had an interesting experience with one of these beetles:
"A young woman I was treating had, at a critical moment, a dream in which she was given a golden scarab. While she was telling me this dream, I sat with my back to the closed window. Suddenly I heard a noise behind me, like a gentle tapping. I turned round and saw a flying insect knocking against the window-pane from the outside. I opened the window and caught the creature in the air as it flew in. It was the nearest analogy to a golden scarab one finds in our latitudes, a scarabaeid beetle, the common rose-chafer (Cetonia aurata), which contrary to its usual habits had evidently felt the urge to get into a dark room at this particular moment. I must admit that nothing like it ever happened to me before or since."
https://youtu.be/vDH2UV41OLA
"Then I found out that Carl Jung, the famous Swiss psychiatrist, had had an interesting experience with one of these beetles:
"A young woman I was treating had, at a critical moment, a dream in which she was given a golden scarab. While she was telling me this dream, I sat with my back to the closed window. Suddenly I heard a noise behind me, like a gentle tapping. I turned round and saw a flying insect knocking against the window-pane from the outside. I opened the window and caught the creature in the air as it flew in. It was the nearest analogy to a golden scarab one finds in our latitudes, a scarabaeid beetle, the common rose-chafer (Cetonia aurata), which contrary to its usual habits had evidently felt the urge to get into a dark room at this particular moment. I must admit that nothing like it ever happened to me before or since."
https://youtu.be/vDH2UV41OLA
https://youtu.be/vDH2UV41OLA
16 July 2017 23:01
Margus Meigo replied to Gert Klaaser's comment.
Nagu see kõrgeim värvi aste, kus kõike värve omades valgest värvituks:
"The metallic green coloration of the beetle is created structurally, caused by the reflection of mostly circularly polarised light; like other scarabs this is left circularly polarised.
When viewed through a right circular polariser, the beetle appears to be colorless"
"In electrodynamics, circular polarization of an electromagnetic wave is a polarization state in which, at each point, the electric field of the wave has a constant magnitude but its direction rotates with time at a steady rate in a plane perpendicular to the direction of the wave."
Vot kus lood lähevad edasi:
"Only a few mechanisms in nature are known to systematically produce circularly polarized light.
In 1911, Albert Abraham Michelson discovered that light reflected from the golden scarab beetle Chrysina resplendens is preferentially left-polarized. Since then, circular polarization has been measured in several other scarab beetles like Chrysina gloriosa.
as well as some crustaceans such as the mantis shrimp. In these cases, the underlying mechanism is the molecular-level helicity of the chitinous cuticle"
"Water-air interfaces provide another source of circular polarization. Sunlight that gets scattered back up towards the surface is linearly polarized. If this light is then totally internally reflected back down, its vertical component undergoes a phase shift. To an underwater observer looking up, the faint light outside Snell's window therefore is (partially) circularly polarized"
"Two species of Mantis Shrimp have been reported to be able to detect circular polarized light.["
// nu jah, nad mantis ka :p
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Circular.Polarization.Circularly.Polarized.Light_Left.Hand.Animation.305x190.255Colors.gif
"The metallic green coloration of the beetle is created structurally, caused by the reflection of mostly circularly polarised light; like other scarabs this is left circularly polarised.
When viewed through a right circular polariser, the beetle appears to be colorless"
"In electrodynamics, circular polarization of an electromagnetic wave is a polarization state in which, at each point, the electric field of the wave has a constant magnitude but its direction rotates with time at a steady rate in a plane perpendicular to the direction of the wave."
Vot kus lood lähevad edasi:
"Only a few mechanisms in nature are known to systematically produce circularly polarized light.
In 1911, Albert Abraham Michelson discovered that light reflected from the golden scarab beetle Chrysina resplendens is preferentially left-polarized. Since then, circular polarization has been measured in several other scarab beetles like Chrysina gloriosa.
as well as some crustaceans such as the mantis shrimp. In these cases, the underlying mechanism is the molecular-level helicity of the chitinous cuticle"
"Water-air interfaces provide another source of circular polarization. Sunlight that gets scattered back up towards the surface is linearly polarized. If this light is then totally internally reflected back down, its vertical component undergoes a phase shift. To an underwater observer looking up, the faint light outside Snell's window therefore is (partially) circularly polarized"
"Two species of Mantis Shrimp have been reported to be able to detect circular polarized light.["
// nu jah, nad mantis ka :p
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Circular.Polarization.Circularly.Polarized.Light_Left.Hand.Animation.305x190.255Colors.gif
16 July 2017 22:51
Margus Meigo replied to Gert Klaaser's comment.
16 July 2017 22:49
Margus Meigo replied to Gert Klaaser's comment.
ossaraks, äitah!
16 July 2017 22:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
filipiinidel tuttav ostis maad, vaatame kuidas sääl olukorraga on,
olukrrrad muidugi sääl ka karmid, kuid nu kuidagi peab selle põllumajanduse siin maal päästma
lisaks meditsiinile ja vaimutervisele,
kuritegevuse väljasöömisega, neilt mõjuvõimu ja manipuleerimis vahendid enamuses eemaldada ja ebaoluliseks teha suures osas see mis neil pakkuda on...
nagu ka see meleega kunstlik kartelli kokkuleppe hind mida osalt arvati ka riigikaitses enne, et on tore, et kõrgel hoitaks,e kuid nüüd..16 July 2017 22:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
ja ega 2 meetrit eemal, reaalselt midagi suurt näha polegi,
eks tulevastel suvedel, tuleb kuskil maaservades, veelgi varem eelkasvatatud, istutada, et nad rohkema päiksega suts suts suuremaks, ettekasvada jõuaks nõgestega, nad praeguses olekus suht samal ajal startisid, mis muidugi vaesed mandi daamid raskesse olukorda pani , kuid kui juba näha on, et taim saab hakkama, siis saab hakkama,
Lihtsalt vaja lõpuks normaalsed seemned aretada, paari sorti, ühed tõsised purakad, ja teised, pool tõsised kuid mis kasvab sedasi, ja toodab seemneid, et viska aga peoga...
praegu 50 seemne ostmine juba on paras investeering taskuraha kõrvalt,
Siis aga , kui Eestipärane ise ennast külvava tame sordid, on samm sammult saavutatud ja läbi aastate kangus ka sisse tuunitud..
Ja isegi kui pole kõik isekülvavad, siis vähemasti mühinal lihtsalt kasvavad nagu tomatid võiks ikka olla16 July 2017 22:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
Kõige olulisem aspekt, mida eelmise Kanepi Grupi adnminnid, VEIDRAL PÕHJUSEL ei julgenud, ei tahtnud, ei soovinud PÕHI tähtsuseks tõsta, on, et MIKS me teeme ja MIDA teha kui teeme, lisaks KUIDAS vaimsemalt/targemat teha nii vähe kui võimalik nii suure kasu tarvis kui saab
ja kuidas suuri, kasulikke tegemisi nii igapäevatoimetuses kui ka strateegilistes tegemistes õigesti kasutusse lasta,
veel lisaks uurimist omavahel, kes mis teemasi toodab ja, siiras üksteise koostöös olla, arusaamas, et see pole mitte mingi suva peale tegemine, vaid pigem rohkem nagu tõsine vaimuliku spioon munga tegevus füüsilises maailmas, füüsilise tunde paremaks saamiseks, teistel, et enda lähedastel ka kunagi parem oleks,16 July 2017 22:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Ecclesia militans - võitlev Kirik
ja kui kindlalt ei tea, siis tuleb hästi oletada, loota, uskuda ja püüda paremaks teha nii kuidas tead, püüe kuskile parmuse sunas, suuremate sammudega, kui reas sörkides vähe liigutades... see püüe saad isegi aru, on jumala südames naeratus, ja kui valele planeedile satud oma mures, siis pehmes peos Sind pigem kindlapeale, eesjärjekorras kui olukord õige olemas, tuuakse kuhu rohkem väärid, sest tegid Paremuse suunal liigutuse16 July 2017 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Goltsov's post.
Group: Ecclesia militans - võitlev Kirik
EI nu siin kirikut süüdistama hakata on kuratlik,
tuleb aru saada kes inflatreerib, miks, kui kaua ja kui ulatuslikult,
kuidas see toimib ja kuidas seda parandada ,ja selle olukorra paremaks tegemisele kaasa aidata,
teil on vahendid et seda teha, enamustel ,vabalt käes ja ülegi veel, ainult mõistust, julgust, teadmisi või pealehakkamist on puudu,
kui aga arusaam tuleb, et on vaja teha seda mida vaja teha, paremaks, ja veel paar ideed puudu või kogu alguse mõte puudu, siis küsige julgelt ja nii otse kui saate, et mille jaoks, siis tean mida anda
saan kergelt suuri ja väikeseid paranduse plaane anda, patt on kui ei kasuta16 July 2017 22:25
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Kirsimägi's comment.
Group: Ecclesia militans - võitlev Kirik
kuid me soovime lahendusi eks., see et nii on... on paratamatus.. kuid mis on need retseptid, mida Sa kirjutada saaksid, olukorra parandmaiseks,
nendele kes soovivad, paremaks parandada olukorda, olenemata nende seisukorrast16 July 2017 22:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Ecclesia militans - võitlev Kirik
avastamist16 July 2017 22:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Ecclesia militans - võitlev Kirik
ei nuh, hea habemega, selles mõttes, et arukas.
Vanarahval vabemega loo osas veel oma kindlam suunitlus oli...
Kuid jah, nii Õige kui Vatikani usul (kes omamoodi ka omas tasemes liituma peaksid ja rinda pistavad..) et nendel kõigil peaks ju olema ka infosi, nii habemete kui karvade ja tegelike võimaluste juurde, kuhu maani keegi saab olla lõpuni "endaga kodus" kui ta täis täiuses olles, ennast lõikumas peaks käima ..
Sõrmeküüsed on veel ainukesed müsteeriumid mu jaoks,
kuid see ju on ka ainuke asi, millega ta tahab, et enda kallal nokitseksime, kuid see veel uurimist väärt16 July 2017 22:18
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Ecclesia militans - võitlev Kirik
Aivar, Sa teed vähemasti interneti missionikäike ja süva inflateeringuid siin elektroonika kolli maailmas, ja see olgugi, et habet pole, on üks väga habemega tegu kui vaatekohtadelt õigeks jääda : )16 July 2017 22:15
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Ecclesia militans - võitlev Kirik
Kuid yea, muidu kogu respect,
Vaimsete Ninjade osas,
(ninjade osas mul oli ka video ammu seinale pandud paar nädalattagasi, suts teises vaimses kastmes küll, noorte omas, raske geto de hulgas usuvalguse esiletõstjad , nagu karmatud ninjad osati , arvestades mis jõudude keskel nad on )16 July 2017 22:14
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Ecclesia militans - võitlev Kirik
Ninjad,
Kuid jha, selle generatsioni omadele veel andestatav mystilisuse pärast, et habemeta ja meelega lühijuukselised...
Kuid selline mood kestma jääda küll ei saa, füüsiliselt juba mitte, sest aeg ei vea muidu neid välja, ühendusi ei saa piisavalt tehtud ja teadmised piisavalt laialt edasi kantud, kui jääme kärbituks,
lipsust lihtsam loobuda veel.. kuid see füüsiline sadomashohism enda jumalapoolt antud karvade osas mida kõik saame lugeda, et on lihtne tee ja elementaarne VAJALIK element parema ühenduse jaoks PUHTAMA ja SÜGAVAMA ühenduse jaoks...... see silutud saamine...on asi millega siin maal nii osavalt, greeklased meid enamusi said enda järgi käituma pannes, pingutades selleks isegi suht vähe
nüüd muidugi selle karvutusega nad juba üle piiri läinud , kuid eks peavadki oma mõista, seni kun ikuskil veel kellegil mingeid karvu on,
meestele vist veel kubemesse mõned lubatakse jätta, kuigi trendid ka selles osas juba liikumas, et seda asja piirata... toppimaks teise suud sinna mehaaniliselt kuhu tal pole asja, mille jaoks suu loodud pole sellises mastaabis... aga noh. mood nõuab.. ja kui eeskujulikuimad, suurimad austuse ja moe eeskujud, ise ka suht silutuna tooni annavad.... siis .. sis ...16 July 2017 22:12
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Pahk's comment.
Group: Ecclesia militans - võitlev Kirik
loodame, et kunagi kõigilt neilt midagi õppimiseni jõuame16 July 2017 22:06
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Ecclesia militans - võitlev Kirik
aa topime viisnurki ikka asjad täis...
isegi mahategemiseks.. ei sobi kaasa panna tervet viisnurka,, kunagi16 July 2017 22:05
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Leberecht's comment.
füüsiline materiaalne, mitte siis tõepõhine aluspind ainult,
õnnelikud need kellele need antud.. kuid enamasti, kes andnud, need ka selleks, et võttsa
õnnelikud need kellele need antud.. kuid enamasti, kes andnud, need ka selleks, et võttsa
16 July 2017 22:03
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Leberecht's comment.
16 July 2017 21:57
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Leberecht's comment.
for common people, interesting note, in the end, to realize:
"Competing interests
The authors declare that they have no competing interests. "
"Competing interests
The authors declare that they have no competing interests. "
16 July 2017 21:51
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Leberecht's comment.
miskite taoliste tegelaste labortie tulemustel mine tea mida luua saadakse, Einar ise ka ju teab...
Ehk ka teab, et Vanad habemed olla enne seliste laboritega Atalntise minema kihutnaud, kuid see olevat ka kuulujutt, et see meiepoolsete tegu, kes siis iidsema suurema eelarenguga kui need uued thenoloogiaga ringi mängijad
Ehk ka teab, et Vanad habemed olla enne seliste laboritega Atalntise minema kihutnaud, kuid see olevat ka kuulujutt, et see meiepoolsete tegu, kes siis iidsema suurema eelarenguga kui need uued thenoloogiaga ringi mängijad
16 July 2017 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Leberecht's comment.
Ma mõtlesin midagi sellist suts, mis muidugi jah... kuralt see ka mis Sa jagasid :
"Despite this common function, divergence has enabled some family members to adopt new and sometimes radically different functions"
https://bmcresnotes.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1756-0500-1-108
"Despite this common function, divergence has enabled some family members to adopt new and sometimes radically different functions"
https://bmcresnotes.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1756-0500-1-108
16 July 2017 21:45
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Leberecht's comment.
see päris hull asi jah mis sa panid
// kuid eks nad ka jah taha ka inimkehas liitumist, eri moodidel, osad pisitasemel teadlikult osalt eeltööd tehes faaside jaoks ja osad lihtsalt lihtsa host organismina kasutades ja selle põhjal ise eluhoida proovides ronib mööda teise elu edasi, kopeerides, arenedes, kasvades, edasi ronides ja ammutades niitargalt kui saab kõike mis teele jääb
// kuid eks nad ka jah taha ka inimkehas liitumist, eri moodidel, osad pisitasemel teadlikult osalt eeltööd tehes faaside jaoks ja osad lihtsalt lihtsa host organismina kasutades ja selle põhjal ise eluhoida proovides ronib mööda teise elu edasi, kopeerides, arenedes, kasvades, edasi ronides ja ammutades niitargalt kui saab kõike mis teele jääb
16 July 2017 21:43
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Leberecht's comment.
Su sõpradele ka Marijuana meeldima hakanud Andrus Leberecht ?
16 July 2017 21:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
everyone wants to help, but so few want to do anything about it,
https://www.facebook.com/AnimalEquality/videos/10154831578129077/
As soon You get serious, they are like "i got things to do..."
"oh.. to complicated" or "i have my own way doing it (with no one needed?)" just samples of few
anyone who knows me knows, i am serious,
so why holding back ?
Why looking something else.. only something else..
what about THis and the something else will also come along... as how many you got for Real, who willing to go and do great things on instant, when situations come, to the end
//okey sorry, there is no end,
// this is the belief that is correct to allow, whit out knowing, that there is no end, or will there need to be realistic view, that there is an end and You can do Your best to give greatest, highest of you to the next ones.
You can be passing leaves, who no one remeber
or the leaves, who will be for inspiration generations to come... gone same way physically but inspired enought wya to keep other leaves more productive and benafitial, for the end goal, that provided our own nice'r sitations but most of all, that was, the work, to provide better situations to next generations to come
https://www.facebook.com/AnimalEquality/videos/10154831578129077/
As soon You get serious, they are like "i got things to do..."
"oh.. to complicated" or "i have my own way doing it (with no one needed?)" just samples of few
anyone who knows me knows, i am serious,
so why holding back ?
Why looking something else.. only something else..
what about THis and the something else will also come along... as how many you got for Real, who willing to go and do great things on instant, when situations come, to the end
//okey sorry, there is no end,
// this is the belief that is correct to allow, whit out knowing, that there is no end, or will there need to be realistic view, that there is an end and You can do Your best to give greatest, highest of you to the next ones.
You can be passing leaves, who no one remeber
or the leaves, who will be for inspiration generations to come... gone same way physically but inspired enought wya to keep other leaves more productive and benafitial, for the end goal, that provided our own nice'r sitations but most of all, that was, the work, to provide better situations to next generations to come
16 July 2017 21:35
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Leberecht's comment.
Kuid ma lähen võtan veel piibu korralik ukanepit mis Jumal andis targaste kasutmaiseks, et seda Loojangut veel vaadata mida ilm pakub, ning mõelda, kas Looduspärase seaduse järgi elektroonika süsteemide üleseadiseks, ta mu peasse ja arusaama veel mõned algtõed mahutada saab
... et siin vaja nii Laignat päästa, kui ta just ise mõõgaga selle ussi pesekeskel püsti ei karga kes ta ümber end keeranud on mugavalt.. ja muidu kuninlikud, Jumalikud ülesanded, et kunagi keelgi saaks kogu ühiskonnas, neid võimalusi kõigile pakkuda
... et siin vaja nii Laignat päästa, kui ta just ise mõõgaga selle ussi pesekeskel püsti ei karga kes ta ümber end keeranud on mugavalt.. ja muidu kuninlikud, Jumalikud ülesanded, et kunagi keelgi saaks kogu ühiskonnas, neid võimalusi kõigile pakkuda
16 July 2017 19:28
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Leberecht's comment.
16 July 2017 19:22
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Leberecht's comment.
see tundub nagu iseennast seletav sõna olevat ju, et sümbioosist eks +
16 July 2017 19:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Bioenergetic Therapy
Wife helped him to make last great choice, wish more people would be so blessed with knowledgeable people around :
http://www.openculture.com/2011/10/aldous_huxleys_lsd_death_trip.html
http://www.theplaidzebra.com/aldous-huxleys-wife-wrote-this-letter-about-injecting-him-with-lsd-right-before-he-died/16 July 2017 19:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Bioenergetic Therapy
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/inventor-of-lsd-embarks-on-final-trip/https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/inventor-of-lsd-embarks-on-final-trip/
16 July 2017 19:15
Margus Meigo commented on Marie-Louise Honka's post.
Group: Bioenergetic Therapy
Oh.. was he able to get Psychedelics before in great amounts ?
How was soul passing arranged,
was all calm, him clear and knowing where one go?16 July 2017 19:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Bioenergetic Therapy
some real deal and tastes, of world around and make last corrections on life path16 July 2017 19:13
Margus Meigo commented on Marie-Louise Honka's post.
Group: Bioenergetic Therapy
Give For sure if possible, great amount of LSD-25 on last Jorney!16 July 2017 19:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui aga tahad olla pundis nendega koos kes lõpuks mõrvavad ja likvideerivad viimse vabaduse alge, siis jah, toeta aga neid võrdõiguse ja ebapahasse ainult uskuvaid spioonide loominguid edasi
Ka sellistel klubidel enamustel käpp peal, karukäpp:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/404751269546007/?multi_permalinks=1527471727273950&ref=notif¬if_t=group_activity¬if_id=1500221481159126
Ka sellistel klubidel enamustel käpp peal, karukäpp:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/404751269546007/?multi_permalinks=1527471727273950&ref=notif¬if_t=group_activity¬if_id=1500221481159126
Bioenergetic Therapy
16 July 2017 19:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehk siis
(isegi seda nüüd lahti seletades iga paketi juures, võtaks palju lehtesi, kuid alla filmipikuse süseega, usun, saaks asjad suht sedamoodi selgeks nagu vaja,
kuid eks need filmid mis otse reaalsuse korda teevad sest on tõesed, ja toimelisedfilmid, need ka rohkem ja rohkem Teadliku kasutusse ehk imbuma kunai varsti hakkavad, lasua holliwoodi tasemel, küll jõuab)
(isegi seda nüüd lahti seletades iga paketi juures, võtaks palju lehtesi, kuid alla filmipikuse süseega, usun, saaks asjad suht sedamoodi selgeks nagu vaja,
kuid eks need filmid mis otse reaalsuse korda teevad sest on tõesed, ja toimelisedfilmid, need ka rohkem ja rohkem Teadliku kasutusse ehk imbuma kunai varsti hakkavad, lasua holliwoodi tasemel, küll jõuab)
16 July 2017 19:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see mis Sul on Oma, on kõigil Sama,
Selles elementaarne arusaam,
kõik "jumalad" kes mitmuses, tehti ju kellegi poolt, enne sündi,
ja kui ta on endiselt üks sama, algkeha mitmuses kõiges, v
kehapikendus, siis ikkagi räägime ühest kobar organismist, mitmereaalsuse ja maailma sees korraga mitme eri selles maailmas mõtestatud olenditele kõige täpsemini arvutusele, arvutusele, arusaamisele viidud mõistmiste teed,
//
// viimase paketi tähenduse lahti mõtestamisel suts kett maha läks
// nii,
et kui need kes mitmekehana, NakiAnud, kui nad võtta ühe olendina, siis jah... kui aga eraldi sikusstena, kust nad isis tulid ja kuidas, ja mis algmateriali nad siis siit planeeedilt leidsid, kelle oma see oli ja milleks , kuidas siin seda enne kasvatati, looduse abiliseks.... toimetajaks, vahelingiks kõikide tegelaste vahel... aga mingid algemisemad, kes suures arengus ise tagasi jõudnud, nüüd arengupuuduses lausa selle sama oma inimese juurde tulnud kelle nad orjastanud, vist siis folkloori järgi..
// inimene aga teab, kes päris tark ja kogenud, et LOODUS on tema seljataga, kes tema LOOMINGU taga tegelikult on, ja kõik see mis on LOODUD Looja poolt, lastud juhtuda, sinnamaale, et ka looja suurimaid arenguid, kes käest lipsanud ja konfliktis eemale arenenud, et nad alandatud või koostööse, saavad
Selles elementaarne arusaam,
kõik "jumalad" kes mitmuses, tehti ju kellegi poolt, enne sündi,
ja kui ta on endiselt üks sama, algkeha mitmuses kõiges, v
kehapikendus, siis ikkagi räägime ühest kobar organismist, mitmereaalsuse ja maailma sees korraga mitme eri selles maailmas mõtestatud olenditele kõige täpsemini arvutusele, arvutusele, arusaamisele viidud mõistmiste teed,
//
// viimase paketi tähenduse lahti mõtestamisel suts kett maha läks
// nii,
et kui need kes mitmekehana, NakiAnud, kui nad võtta ühe olendina, siis jah... kui aga eraldi sikusstena, kust nad isis tulid ja kuidas, ja mis algmateriali nad siis siit planeeedilt leidsid, kelle oma see oli ja milleks , kuidas siin seda enne kasvatati, looduse abiliseks.... toimetajaks, vahelingiks kõikide tegelaste vahel... aga mingid algemisemad, kes suures arengus ise tagasi jõudnud, nüüd arengupuuduses lausa selle sama oma inimese juurde tulnud kelle nad orjastanud, vist siis folkloori järgi..
// inimene aga teab, kes päris tark ja kogenud, et LOODUS on tema seljataga, kes tema LOOMINGU taga tegelikult on, ja kõik see mis on LOODUD Looja poolt, lastud juhtuda, sinnamaale, et ka looja suurimaid arenguid, kes käest lipsanud ja konfliktis eemale arenenud, et nad alandatud või koostööse, saavad
16 July 2017 19:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
alles hoida
16 July 2017 18:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid yeah, ega enne maailm ka vaba pole kui vene pole vaba venemaast ja isreal vaba isrealastest kes poliitilised, selleasemel, et juudid olla keda hoida sobiks vanatestamendi põhjal
16 July 2017 18:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid eks ERR tetriLoos oli ka üks sama teemaline klugu, kus lapsed mängisid isreale
16 July 2017 18:20
Margus Meigo commented on Jyri Manin's post.
Nu lastega sellist nalja... :(
16 July 2017 18:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
ei tea mis mul käsi nii ebalt tagasihoidlik oli, ju vist sest teine käsi filmis ja siis kuidagi ununeb/kangestub loomulik keha
16 July 2017 18:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Põnevuslugusi ka:
http://www.looduskalender.ee/n/node/1496
Tekst ja fotod Tiit Hunt, www.rmk.ee
Sisu
1910.aastal raputas maailma avalikkust 20.sajandi suurimaks mõrvaprotsessiks tituleeritud kohus dr Hawley Harvey Crippeni üle, kes juhtus õnnetul kombel mõrvama oma abikaasa. Omal ajal tekitas palju furoori nii roimani viinud koloriitne armukolmnurk kui ka kurjategija transatlantiline arreteerimine.
Kurikael kasutas tülikast küljeluust vabanemiseks hüotsiini, tuntud ka kui skopolamiin, mida tänapäevalgi toodetakse maavitsaliste perekonda kuuluvatest taimeliikidest. Nimetus skopolamiin viitab Eesti aedadeski ilutaimena kasvatatavale karni skopooliale (Scopolia carniolica) aga hüotsiini nimetus on tuletatud ladinakeelsest taimenimest Hyoscyamus niger.
Selle silmatorkava raipehaisulise lillepuhma omakeelne nimi on tuttav kõigile aga nime ja näo viivad kokku vähesed.
Varem võis seda mürgist iludust märksa tihemini teepervedel ja prahipaikades kasvamas kohata, aga koera-pöörirohi (Hyoscyamus niger) esineb meil viimasel ajal üsna harva.
Ühendkuningriigis, kus on täheldatud sama tendentsi, on oletatud, et varem nii populaarse taime kadumine on, vähemalt osaliselt, seotud eelmise sajandi alguses omandatud verdtarretava kurikuulsusega.
Ühendkuningriigis, kus on täheldatud sama tendentsi, on oletatud, et varem nii populaarse taime kadumine on, vähemalt osaliselt, seotud eelmise sajandi alguses omandatud verdtarretava kurikuulsusega.
Olgu sellega, kuidas on, aga meilgi laialdaselt tuntud ja tarvitatud koera-pöörirohu taandumises saab ilmselt eelkõige süüdistada taimekaitsevahendite pikaajalist intensiivset kasutust ja maastiku mosaiiksuse järsku vähenemist.
Seda meeldivam oli minu üllatus teda Pärnumaa linnukohtades tiirutades ühe mahajäetud küüni veeres jäätmaal kasvamas leida.
Selle erakordse kõrge ja laiuva kauni kollaseõielise taime muudab eemaletõukavaks erituv hais, mis peletab kõiki potentsiaalseid sööjaid peale koerte, kel hästi laagerdunud raipega teadagi oma suhe.
Vaatamata sellele, et mõni peni lille vastupandamatuks peab, on see mürgine kõigile elukatele peale mõne erandi nagu sead
Vaatamata sellele, et mõni peni lille vastupandamatuks peab, on see mürgine kõigile elukatele peale mõne erandi nagu sead, kes mõningail andmeil taime tarbimisel saabuvat joovet naudivad, ja kapsaliblika röövikud, kes meelsasti taime märkimisväärset rohemassi krõmpsutavad.
Lisaks inimeste mürgitamise kahtlase väärtusega ülesandele on koera-pöörirohtu juba tuhandeid aastaid laialdaselt valuvaigisti ja tuimestina kasutatud teda selleks loodusest korjates ja kultiveerides.
Lisaks sellele on nii meil kui mujal taime kupra hammastega lõualuud meenutava omapärase kuju tõttu teda heaks stomatoloogiliseks ravimiks peetud.
Koera-pöörirohtu kasvatatakse tänapäevalgi ja teda võib leida nt iiveldust tõrjuvate preparaatide koostisest.
http://www.looduskalender.ee/n/node/1496
Tekst ja fotod Tiit Hunt, www.rmk.ee
Sisu
1910.aastal raputas maailma avalikkust 20.sajandi suurimaks mõrvaprotsessiks tituleeritud kohus dr Hawley Harvey Crippeni üle, kes juhtus õnnetul kombel mõrvama oma abikaasa. Omal ajal tekitas palju furoori nii roimani viinud koloriitne armukolmnurk kui ka kurjategija transatlantiline arreteerimine.
Kurikael kasutas tülikast küljeluust vabanemiseks hüotsiini, tuntud ka kui skopolamiin, mida tänapäevalgi toodetakse maavitsaliste perekonda kuuluvatest taimeliikidest. Nimetus skopolamiin viitab Eesti aedadeski ilutaimena kasvatatavale karni skopooliale (Scopolia carniolica) aga hüotsiini nimetus on tuletatud ladinakeelsest taimenimest Hyoscyamus niger.
Selle silmatorkava raipehaisulise lillepuhma omakeelne nimi on tuttav kõigile aga nime ja näo viivad kokku vähesed.
Varem võis seda mürgist iludust märksa tihemini teepervedel ja prahipaikades kasvamas kohata, aga koera-pöörirohi (Hyoscyamus niger) esineb meil viimasel ajal üsna harva.
Ühendkuningriigis, kus on täheldatud sama tendentsi, on oletatud, et varem nii populaarse taime kadumine on, vähemalt osaliselt, seotud eelmise sajandi alguses omandatud verdtarretava kurikuulsusega.
Ühendkuningriigis, kus on täheldatud sama tendentsi, on oletatud, et varem nii populaarse taime kadumine on, vähemalt osaliselt, seotud eelmise sajandi alguses omandatud verdtarretava kurikuulsusega.
Olgu sellega, kuidas on, aga meilgi laialdaselt tuntud ja tarvitatud koera-pöörirohu taandumises saab ilmselt eelkõige süüdistada taimekaitsevahendite pikaajalist intensiivset kasutust ja maastiku mosaiiksuse järsku vähenemist.
Seda meeldivam oli minu üllatus teda Pärnumaa linnukohtades tiirutades ühe mahajäetud küüni veeres jäätmaal kasvamas leida.
Selle erakordse kõrge ja laiuva kauni kollaseõielise taime muudab eemaletõukavaks erituv hais, mis peletab kõiki potentsiaalseid sööjaid peale koerte, kel hästi laagerdunud raipega teadagi oma suhe.
Vaatamata sellele, et mõni peni lille vastupandamatuks peab, on see mürgine kõigile elukatele peale mõne erandi nagu sead
Vaatamata sellele, et mõni peni lille vastupandamatuks peab, on see mürgine kõigile elukatele peale mõne erandi nagu sead, kes mõningail andmeil taime tarbimisel saabuvat joovet naudivad, ja kapsaliblika röövikud, kes meelsasti taime märkimisväärset rohemassi krõmpsutavad.
Lisaks inimeste mürgitamise kahtlase väärtusega ülesandele on koera-pöörirohtu juba tuhandeid aastaid laialdaselt valuvaigisti ja tuimestina kasutatud teda selleks loodusest korjates ja kultiveerides.
Lisaks sellele on nii meil kui mujal taime kupra hammastega lõualuud meenutava omapärase kuju tõttu teda heaks stomatoloogiliseks ravimiks peetud.
Koera-pöörirohtu kasvatatakse tänapäevalgi ja teda võib leida nt iiveldust tõrjuvate preparaatide koostisest.
http://www.looduskalender.ee/n/node/1496
16 July 2017 15:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Viimased teated:
http://www.looduskalender.ee/n/last
http://www.looduskalender.ee/n/last
http://www.looduskalender.ee/n/last
16 July 2017 15:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Edasi normaalsematele lainetele: http://www.looduskalender.ee/n/node/897
http://www.looduskalender.ee/n/node/897
16 July 2017 15:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kas vajame rail baltiCUT ?
Vajame Eestit ühendavat,
mitte lahutavat raudteed!
http://www.avalikeesti.ee/Avalik-Eesti-1.pdf
Vajame Eestit ühendavat,
mitte lahutavat raudteed!
http://www.avalikeesti.ee/Avalik-Eesti-1.pdf
16 July 2017 15:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.avalikeesti.ee/Avalik-Eesti-3.pdf
// juba natukene asjalikuma pealkirjaga, mis suunda näitab:
"Peatame koos
Eestile kahjuliku
monstrumi! "
// juba natukene asjalikuma pealkirjaga, mis suunda näitab:
"Peatame koos
Eestile kahjuliku
monstrumi! "
16 July 2017 15:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Eesti vajab raudteed Euroopasse. Aga millist?"
http://www.avalikeesti.ee
http://www.avalikeesti.ee/Avalik-Eesti-2.pdf
http://www.avalikeesti.ee
http://www.avalikeesti.ee/Avalik-Eesti-2.pdf
http://www.avalikeesti.ee/
16 July 2017 15:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In ENGLISH version of document, the "CRITICAL" section is missing, will need to fix that!
" The total cost was expected to be around €1.5 billion for option one, and around €2.4 billion for option two....
In Autumn 2015, the budget was estimated to be €4 billion.
By late Summer 2016, the total budget was estimated to be about €5 billion..."
Okey they talk about money., but what about the terrible outcome for some critical natural arias, local culture destruction and criticism about the project?
From Estonian Wikipedia:
Kriitika
29. septembril 2016 ilmus 101 kiri "Eesti rahva ja maa tuleviku nimel tuleb peatada Rail Balticu rajamine kavandatud kujul" ajalehes Postimees.[15] Selles tuuakse esile vajadus ja võimalus projekti oluliselt paremaks muuta.
Ajakirjanduses on avaldatud kahtlusi uuringus välja pakutud raudteetrassi paiknemise kohta Riia linna ümbruses ja leitud, et uus standardrööpmega raudtee peaks mööduma lennuvälja lähedalt.[16]
Eesti omaosaluseks on praegu planeeritud 250 000 000 €. Samas ei ole see summa lõplik. Projekti käigus suurenevad kulud tuleb tasuda toetuse saajal ning hinnang kuludeks on planeerimise perioodil mitmekordistunud.[17]
Projekti kriitiline analüüs on esitatud väljaandes "Avalik Eesti".
Karli Lambot esines kriitilise analüüsiga riigikogu majanduskomisjonis 21. veebruaril 2017. aastal
Eesti Rooma Klubi avaldus Rail Balticu kohta "Rail Balticu rajamine uuele otsetrassile on läbi mõtlemata otsus". Eesti Rooma Klubi märgib, et kui Riigikogu ratifitseerib ülalnimetatud kokkuleppe, kasutab Eesti Rooma Klubi Århusi konventsiooniga antud õigust pöörduda kohtusse sundimaks riiki täitma talle seadustega pandud kohustusi.[18]
Rail Balticu kehtiva projekti ja selle läbisurumise meetodite vastu on korraldatud mitu miitingut: 26. jaanuaril 2017 Tallinnas majandusministeeriumi ees (umbes 300 inimest)[19], samuti 22. aprillil 2017 Tallinnas Vabaduse väljakul ning Tartus Raekoja platsil. Järgmine meeleavaldus toimub 17. mail Riigikogu ees.
Ühtegi rahvaküsitlust ei ole projekti vajalikkuse üle tehtud ning ei ole selge, kas rahvas üldse selle projektiga nõustub.
Kriitilisi artikleid on projektist kui Fail Baltic'ust kirjutanud Kati Vatmann[20], aga ka Mihkel Mutt, Indrek Neivelt jt.
Riigikontrolli 24. mai 2017 ülevaade Rail Balticu kohta näitab, et kogu senine protsess on täis vigu. Riikidevahelised rahalised kohustused on fikseerimata ja Riigikogu vastutus projektiga osas on selgusetu. Samuti puuduvad lepingud projekti lõpuleviimiseks teiste projektis osalevate riikidega.
Rail Balticu vastased: projekt ei ole EL-i reeglite järgi abikõlblik. Euroopa taristuprojektide puhul peavad diskonteeritud ehk tänasesse arvestatud tulud ületama kulusid, et taristuprojekti oleks mõttekas ette võtta. Ernst & Young poolt koostatud tasuvusanalüüsis on kasutatud õhusaastatuse arvestuses vananenud EUROII normide alusel tehtud arvutused. Võrreldes AECOMi analüüsiga on nüüdseks projekti kulud suurenenud 2,7 miljardi euro võrra. Projekti kasumi arvestamise metoodikat avaldatud pole. Põhilise osa kasumist annavad utoopilised numbrid reisijate- ja kaubavedudes, ülejäänu moodustab teoreetiline keskkonnasääst (näit. müra vähenemine ja lennuliikluse käest võidetud CO2).[21]
E&Y Rail Balticu tasuvusuuring valas õli tulle, Logistikauudised, 8.juuni 2017
222 kodaniku kiri Rail Balticu kohta, Postimees, 12. juuni 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_Baltica
" The total cost was expected to be around €1.5 billion for option one, and around €2.4 billion for option two....
In Autumn 2015, the budget was estimated to be €4 billion.
By late Summer 2016, the total budget was estimated to be about €5 billion..."
Okey they talk about money., but what about the terrible outcome for some critical natural arias, local culture destruction and criticism about the project?
From Estonian Wikipedia:
Kriitika
29. septembril 2016 ilmus 101 kiri "Eesti rahva ja maa tuleviku nimel tuleb peatada Rail Balticu rajamine kavandatud kujul" ajalehes Postimees.[15] Selles tuuakse esile vajadus ja võimalus projekti oluliselt paremaks muuta.
Ajakirjanduses on avaldatud kahtlusi uuringus välja pakutud raudteetrassi paiknemise kohta Riia linna ümbruses ja leitud, et uus standardrööpmega raudtee peaks mööduma lennuvälja lähedalt.[16]
Eesti omaosaluseks on praegu planeeritud 250 000 000 €. Samas ei ole see summa lõplik. Projekti käigus suurenevad kulud tuleb tasuda toetuse saajal ning hinnang kuludeks on planeerimise perioodil mitmekordistunud.[17]
Projekti kriitiline analüüs on esitatud väljaandes "Avalik Eesti".
Karli Lambot esines kriitilise analüüsiga riigikogu majanduskomisjonis 21. veebruaril 2017. aastal
Eesti Rooma Klubi avaldus Rail Balticu kohta "Rail Balticu rajamine uuele otsetrassile on läbi mõtlemata otsus". Eesti Rooma Klubi märgib, et kui Riigikogu ratifitseerib ülalnimetatud kokkuleppe, kasutab Eesti Rooma Klubi Århusi konventsiooniga antud õigust pöörduda kohtusse sundimaks riiki täitma talle seadustega pandud kohustusi.[18]
Rail Balticu kehtiva projekti ja selle läbisurumise meetodite vastu on korraldatud mitu miitingut: 26. jaanuaril 2017 Tallinnas majandusministeeriumi ees (umbes 300 inimest)[19], samuti 22. aprillil 2017 Tallinnas Vabaduse väljakul ning Tartus Raekoja platsil. Järgmine meeleavaldus toimub 17. mail Riigikogu ees.
Ühtegi rahvaküsitlust ei ole projekti vajalikkuse üle tehtud ning ei ole selge, kas rahvas üldse selle projektiga nõustub.
Kriitilisi artikleid on projektist kui Fail Baltic'ust kirjutanud Kati Vatmann[20], aga ka Mihkel Mutt, Indrek Neivelt jt.
Riigikontrolli 24. mai 2017 ülevaade Rail Balticu kohta näitab, et kogu senine protsess on täis vigu. Riikidevahelised rahalised kohustused on fikseerimata ja Riigikogu vastutus projektiga osas on selgusetu. Samuti puuduvad lepingud projekti lõpuleviimiseks teiste projektis osalevate riikidega.
Rail Balticu vastased: projekt ei ole EL-i reeglite järgi abikõlblik. Euroopa taristuprojektide puhul peavad diskonteeritud ehk tänasesse arvestatud tulud ületama kulusid, et taristuprojekti oleks mõttekas ette võtta. Ernst & Young poolt koostatud tasuvusanalüüsis on kasutatud õhusaastatuse arvestuses vananenud EUROII normide alusel tehtud arvutused. Võrreldes AECOMi analüüsiga on nüüdseks projekti kulud suurenenud 2,7 miljardi euro võrra. Projekti kasumi arvestamise metoodikat avaldatud pole. Põhilise osa kasumist annavad utoopilised numbrid reisijate- ja kaubavedudes, ülejäänu moodustab teoreetiline keskkonnasääst (näit. müra vähenemine ja lennuliikluse käest võidetud CO2).[21]
E&Y Rail Balticu tasuvusuuring valas õli tulle, Logistikauudised, 8.juuni 2017
222 kodaniku kiri Rail Balticu kohta, Postimees, 12. juuni 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_Baltica
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_Baltica
16 July 2017 15:20
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kuud ikkagi oleks päris tore, kui keegi teaks hindasi päriselt taolistele asjadele
16 July 2017 00:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
põhikasutegur ka teadvuse info vahendamine nende võrkude vahel mis tekib
15 July 2017 21:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
pohipunkt ka näha kui paljud on päris isadega koos
15 July 2017 21:17
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Lepp's comment.
ega peale resursi suurt muud puudust pole, mis jalus kõige enam asjade mugavaks liikumiseks (siis saaks ju ka inimestele jagada asjum, mis ilmaigasuguse kahtluseta, asjad paremaks ja selgeks teeks), jalus koperdab mitu maiset muret, mida üksi hallates aga ajakulukas on sinnamaani viia, et nii teha nagu saab ka naturaalselt, //.. üldiselt, pean mõtlema sellele teemale veel
15 July 2017 21:08
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Lepp's comment.
Kui seenevanad kunagi tulevad, hoiame kursis
15 July 2017 21:06
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
see lause on tõene ainult, sest sõna otseses mõttes, vaataja silmades on ilu, ehk hing, arvatakse nii, et see sügavus selles on kõige enam.
Kuid enamasti kõik mis pole ilus, on suht ühiselt määratletav, arusaadav, ilu ise aga lausa mõned ütlevad, et matemaatiliselt määratav, kuldlõige jne, selles osas ma nõus muidugi pole, ku isis robotitel vast nii saab olla ka.
Kuid jah, kui midagi on ilus, siis on see Päriselt ka nii,
ja kui keegi ära unustab, ei saa aru, ei oska enam vahet teha defineerimises, mis on ilus ja kas on siis ma saan otseselt ise, isiklikult ka selles osas aidata, et kategoriseerida, tõsiseid soove, et liikuda ilu suunas.
Ilu ei ole üks asi mõõtmetega ainult vaid kogum suundasi, kooslus ilust, on ilu.
ka aeg, olukord ja vaatenurk defineerib ilu, ja seega ma enamasti kõike arvesse võttes, selgitan inimesele , temale kõige vajalikuma nurga alt, sellises koguses seda mis usun teise maksimum olema, et mitte puudu ei jäeks sellest mis võiks olla, mida heatahtlikult eeldad, et teisel on,
samamoodi on ka ilumeele ja ilusoonega, kellel on ja kellel on rohkem, ja kas on ka selliseid kellel puudub, need olendid on teisejärgulisemas uurimisobjektis,
neid ei saa ainuisikuliselt uurida, sest muidu tuleks vale valem, tuleb poleks see mis vaja, kui keskenduda valele eraldi enne ühise tulemi vaatamist mida sellised valed osaliselt või täielikult toodavad.
Ja see ilu on vaataja silmades, on selline ka , poole peal olev ütlus, mis ei pruugi suures plaanis lõpuni asjalik olla ilma tõdemuseta, et vaataja silmades, eeldates, et silmad mis ilu vaatavad on hingestatud, asub ilu (viimane lause osa on ümbertõlgendatav, praegu jätan selliseks veel, seda saab arendada, vajalikumaks, ... point on lopus, et kui keegi asub taidlema, et pole ilu siisma saan selle kooli inimesele teha lihtsasti selgeks, et ON
see umbes veel lihtsam selgeks teha kui kellegite utoopilised arutlused teemadel kas headus on olemas või on kõik igat pidi ühtemoodi, ei ole, on kindlaid moodi kuidas on ja mitmeid moode kuidas on paremini)
Kuid enamasti kõik mis pole ilus, on suht ühiselt määratletav, arusaadav, ilu ise aga lausa mõned ütlevad, et matemaatiliselt määratav, kuldlõige jne, selles osas ma nõus muidugi pole, ku isis robotitel vast nii saab olla ka.
Kuid jah, kui midagi on ilus, siis on see Päriselt ka nii,
ja kui keegi ära unustab, ei saa aru, ei oska enam vahet teha defineerimises, mis on ilus ja kas on siis ma saan otseselt ise, isiklikult ka selles osas aidata, et kategoriseerida, tõsiseid soove, et liikuda ilu suunas.
Ilu ei ole üks asi mõõtmetega ainult vaid kogum suundasi, kooslus ilust, on ilu.
ka aeg, olukord ja vaatenurk defineerib ilu, ja seega ma enamasti kõike arvesse võttes, selgitan inimesele , temale kõige vajalikuma nurga alt, sellises koguses seda mis usun teise maksimum olema, et mitte puudu ei jäeks sellest mis võiks olla, mida heatahtlikult eeldad, et teisel on,
samamoodi on ka ilumeele ja ilusoonega, kellel on ja kellel on rohkem, ja kas on ka selliseid kellel puudub, need olendid on teisejärgulisemas uurimisobjektis,
neid ei saa ainuisikuliselt uurida, sest muidu tuleks vale valem, tuleb poleks see mis vaja, kui keskenduda valele eraldi enne ühise tulemi vaatamist mida sellised valed osaliselt või täielikult toodavad.
Ja see ilu on vaataja silmades, on selline ka , poole peal olev ütlus, mis ei pruugi suures plaanis lõpuni asjalik olla ilma tõdemuseta, et vaataja silmades, eeldates, et silmad mis ilu vaatavad on hingestatud, asub ilu (viimane lause osa on ümbertõlgendatav, praegu jätan selliseks veel, seda saab arendada, vajalikumaks, ... point on lopus, et kui keegi asub taidlema, et pole ilu siisma saan selle kooli inimesele teha lihtsasti selgeks, et ON
see umbes veel lihtsam selgeks teha kui kellegite utoopilised arutlused teemadel kas headus on olemas või on kõik igat pidi ühtemoodi, ei ole, on kindlaid moodi kuidas on ja mitmeid moode kuidas on paremini)
15 July 2017 20:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
15 July 2017 16:04
Margus Meigo commented on Postimees's link.
tegelikult politsei eest kardetavate kontaktide kustutmaiseks korraldatud ... muidu oleks võinud ju saada konto tagasi suht lihtsasti.. kirjutanud mulle kasvõi ... 800.. ehk.. palju neid oleks olnud kes plaju rohkem selle konto sisu eest maksnud oleks
15 July 2017 15:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
savika räpp tema tuevamat loomust annab paremini adasi, v isegi see https://www.facebook.com/Viinameemid/videos/301532920257306/ stiil, edekabeli stiil
15 July 2017 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on Busshulkur's link.
suts lahja, eks alustuun ise ole lahja ka, asi selles,
15 July 2017 15:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
> In simple terms: all your data can be coyed on fly,
for future inspection (for keywords using simple data as IP's, hardvare ID's, names, times, reason's... that help to pull out from Pool all other connected data from target and parallel users, connected users )
> Also all your data can on fly intersected/replaced/moified
and re-routed to virtual control points controlled by real institution OR AI rooms who can on any moment FAKE 2 party communications, showing just copy of data to a user, after from it original was filtered out on real time
> Also all Your Internet search, combination of words You use can be alerted
> Most users basic future usage can be predicted / anomaly users slight changes in batten easy to point out (specially when data is re-organized in parallel concept systems (to save the space, most porno videos only section of slides and sound pattern samples with hash is saved) ) +
(does not apply to me so much, as a basic concept, as even "HUMIT proof" in most cases is covered from these eyes who are first line wrong doers and enough readable for few among needed intelligence + easy to interpret and explain from looking by correct classes )
for future inspection (for keywords using simple data as IP's, hardvare ID's, names, times, reason's... that help to pull out from Pool all other connected data from target and parallel users, connected users )
> Also all your data can on fly intersected/replaced/moified
and re-routed to virtual control points controlled by real institution OR AI rooms who can on any moment FAKE 2 party communications, showing just copy of data to a user, after from it original was filtered out on real time
> Also all Your Internet search, combination of words You use can be alerted
> Most users basic future usage can be predicted / anomaly users slight changes in batten easy to point out (specially when data is re-organized in parallel concept systems (to save the space, most porno videos only section of slides and sound pattern samples with hash is saved) ) +
(does not apply to me so much, as a basic concept, as even "HUMIT proof" in most cases is covered from these eyes who are first line wrong doers and enough readable for few among needed intelligence + easy to interpret and explain from looking by correct classes )
15 July 2017 14:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Easy to understand even if do not understand the technology by just focusing key words :
Deep packet inspection (DPI, also called complete packet inspection and information extraction or IX) is a form of computer network packet filtering that examines the data part (and possibly also the header) of a packet as it passes an inspection point, searching for protocol non-compliance, viruses, spam, intrusions, or defined criteria to decide whether the packet may pass or if it needs to be routed to a different destination
" The equipment has Deep Packet Inspection (DPI) capability
Deep packet inspection (DPI, also called complete packet inspection and information extraction or IX)
is a form of computer network packet filtering that examines the data part (and possibly also the header) of a packet
as it passes an inspection point,
searching for protocol non-compliance, viruses, spam, intrusions, or defined criteria
to decide whether the packet may pass or if it needs to be routed to a different destination / ... /
"There are multiple headers for IP packets; network equipment only needs to use the first of these (the IP header) for normal operation, but use of the second header (such as TCP or UDP) is normally considered to be shallow packet inspection (usually called stateful packet inspection) despite this definition "
"There are multiple ways to acquire packets for deep packet inspection. Using port mirroring (sometimes called Span Port) is a very common way, as well as an optical splitter.
Port mirroring is used on a network switch to send a copy of network packets seen on one switch port (or an entire VLAN) to a network monitoring connection on another switch port. This is commonly used for network appliances that require monitoring of network traffic such as an intrusion detection system, passive probe or real user monitoring (RUM) technology.
Port mirroring on a Cisco Systems switch is generally referred to as Switched Port Analyzer (SPAN) or Remote Switched Port Analyzer (RSPAN)
Deep Packet Inspection (and filtering) enables advanced network management, user service, and security functions as well as internet data mining, eavesdropping, and internet censorship. Although DPI technology has been used for Internet management for many years, some advocates of net neutrality fear that the technology may be used anticompetitively or to reduce the openness of the Internet.
DPI is used in a wide range of applications, at the so-called "enterprise" level (corporations and larger institutions), in telecommunications service providers, and in governments."
http://www.cogitatiopress.com/mediaandcommunication/article/view/808
Deep packet inspection (DPI, also called complete packet inspection and information extraction or IX) is a form of computer network packet filtering that examines the data part (and possibly also the header) of a packet as it passes an inspection point, searching for protocol non-compliance, viruses, spam, intrusions, or defined criteria to decide whether the packet may pass or if it needs to be routed to a different destination
" The equipment has Deep Packet Inspection (DPI) capability
Deep packet inspection (DPI, also called complete packet inspection and information extraction or IX)
is a form of computer network packet filtering that examines the data part (and possibly also the header) of a packet
as it passes an inspection point,
searching for protocol non-compliance, viruses, spam, intrusions, or defined criteria
to decide whether the packet may pass or if it needs to be routed to a different destination / ... /
"There are multiple headers for IP packets; network equipment only needs to use the first of these (the IP header) for normal operation, but use of the second header (such as TCP or UDP) is normally considered to be shallow packet inspection (usually called stateful packet inspection) despite this definition "
"There are multiple ways to acquire packets for deep packet inspection. Using port mirroring (sometimes called Span Port) is a very common way, as well as an optical splitter.
Port mirroring is used on a network switch to send a copy of network packets seen on one switch port (or an entire VLAN) to a network monitoring connection on another switch port. This is commonly used for network appliances that require monitoring of network traffic such as an intrusion detection system, passive probe or real user monitoring (RUM) technology.
Port mirroring on a Cisco Systems switch is generally referred to as Switched Port Analyzer (SPAN) or Remote Switched Port Analyzer (RSPAN)
Deep Packet Inspection (and filtering) enables advanced network management, user service, and security functions as well as internet data mining, eavesdropping, and internet censorship. Although DPI technology has been used for Internet management for many years, some advocates of net neutrality fear that the technology may be used anticompetitively or to reduce the openness of the Internet.
DPI is used in a wide range of applications, at the so-called "enterprise" level (corporations and larger institutions), in telecommunications service providers, and in governments."
http://www.cogitatiopress.com/mediaandcommunication/article/view/808
http://www.cogitatiopress.com/mediaandcommunication/article/view/808
15 July 2017 13:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Samasumbkeelsed klienditeenindajad on põnevad,
Kuid kui mureks midagi olla võiks siis, et arvestada, et STV vabalt ka SORM-3 endale installiks kui nipsu selleks tehtaks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SORM#SORM-3
Kuid kui mureks midagi olla võiks siis, et arvestada, et STV vabalt ka SORM-3 endale installiks kui nipsu selleks tehtaks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SORM#SORM-3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SORM#SORM-3
15 July 2017 12:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ega ma klienditeenindajaid ei vaata/kasuta, vaid teenust mis toimib,
Starmanni inimlikuse tase on aga üks kõrgemaid mida kohanud olen, igast pisiasjade osas, kahju, et nad ära osteti... ei tea, kas sisekultuur ja paindlikus jääb enam sama suureks
Starmanni inimlikuse tase on aga üks kõrgemaid mida kohanud olen, igast pisiasjade osas, kahju, et nad ära osteti... ei tea, kas sisekultuur ja paindlikus jääb enam sama suureks
15 July 2017 12:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Iseenesest muidu suht mõtetu lause, et Raplas on...
Nu kus ei oleks.
Kui, siis Kuskil kohtades saab olla ainult rohkem naturaalseid algeid säilinud, ja võimalusi Naisel naisena olla kogukonnas, turvaliselt teiste teadlike naiste ligidal kes teavad kuidas mehi realiseerida kui kuskil mõni tulnukas või töö üle käte on läinud
Nu kus ei oleks.
Kui, siis Kuskil kohtades saab olla ainult rohkem naturaalseid algeid säilinud, ja võimalusi Naisel naisena olla kogukonnas, turvaliselt teiste teadlike naiste ligidal kes teavad kuidas mehi realiseerida kui kuskil mõni tulnukas või töö üle käte on läinud
15 July 2017 12:14
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
peaasi, et kasutada saab ni kuis süda kutsub
15 July 2017 12:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mis see kTV on miski Kristlik Televisioon ?
Eriti muud eip leidnud kui venkudsedanime kasutanud http://veryold.stv.ee/content/est/82/101/ et missee kTV on ?
Eriti muud eip leidnud kui venkudsedanime kasutanud http://veryold.stv.ee/content/est/82/101/ et missee kTV on ?
http://veryold.stv.ee/content/est/82/101/
15 July 2017 11:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu mis asukohadseda Tallina TV d siis ei näe ... asuu, vabalevis nad siis ei näe? Nu kõigis kaabli pakettides see ju tasuta lisaks pantud Üle eesti, igas starmanni ja teiste paketides
15 July 2017 11:57
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Leberecht's comment.
kui oleks kuhu kutsuda, küll siis juba kutsuks
küll aga on aega nendel kutsuda, kes niisama autoga ringi paarutavad, ja nu siis peavad naised nende juttudega leppima.
küll aga on aega nendel kutsuda, kes niisama autoga ringi paarutavad, ja nu siis peavad naised nende juttudega leppima.
15 July 2017 11:43
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Leberecht's comment.
ei käi vaatamas, ise juhtuvad silma
15 July 2017 11:41
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Leberecht's comment.
mitte, et ma eriti vaadata julgeks kui elemendid veel paigas ka kõik pole, et kui ümber keeratakse siis kõike mida vaja ta näha saaks
14 July 2017 22:25
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Leberecht's comment.
ei julgend pilti teha kellegist, hea et hetke nägimgi
14 July 2017 22:24
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Leberecht's comment.
tõest tõesti
14 July 2017 22:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
rapla mk's
Kuigi mingi kiiks on Põlvaga ja meelepildid ja ajalugu sellel paigal kutsub.. hmm, midagi peaks sellega tegema vast
Kuigi mingi kiiks on Põlvaga ja meelepildid ja ajalugu sellel paigal kutsub.. hmm, midagi peaks sellega tegema vast
14 July 2017 22:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ainuke lootus kõuike head nähes enamasti on, et "loodame, et nad heada koos"
14 July 2017 22:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
..kuid õnneks hoian meeles, et veel ei või,
kui ei tea, kas võib..
kui ei tea, kas võib..
14 July 2017 22:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuig ma pole eriti suur välimääraja erapooletu sest armun/ks pea igaühte keda rohkem kui hetke päriselt vaatama satun/unustan
14 July 2017 22:18
Margus Meigo commented on Erik Somelar's post.
peaasi, et neil habemed ka oleks
14 July 2017 22:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oih, mõtlesin esialgu, et Sa MMA võitlusturniiride tegelane
14 July 2017 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on Johnnie Little's photo.
Sa oled Ikka tõsine tegelane : )
Miskeid uusi võtteid ka säält maalt jäänud külge, kasuks tulnud?
Miskeid uusi võtteid ka säält maalt jäänud külge, kasuks tulnud?
14 July 2017 21:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: eestinen.fi
see st https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212453953360615&set=oa.460609270970076&type=3&theater14 July 2017 21:12
Margus Meigo commented on Inno Tähismaa's post.
Group: eestinen.fi
UMbes selline avastus enamustel siirastel on keset piknikku:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212453952240587&set=oa.460609270970076&type=3&theater14 July 2017 21:11
Margus Meigo commented on Inno Tähismaa's post.
Group: eestinen.fi
lõpuks hakatakse maha laskma, lõpkokkuvõttes,
see on suund14 July 2017 21:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mina ilmtingimatta ei paneks kinni, TallinaTV'd vaid kasutaks seda paremini kui seni kaustatud
14 July 2017 21:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et ku isaaks mingi ainegi teada.. eks mingid sügavamad foorumid peavad olema ses osas
14 July 2017 20:57
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Lepp's photo.
Kas digi koopia saad pildistada sellest+
14 July 2017 20:54
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Lepp's post.
kas nad tõsimeeli sinna miskit mürki panevad mis kärbseseened jms taimed ja meeled ära nüristavad, kas mõni teadlane kinnitust ka saanud on mõne aine osas,
vot see juba oleks .. kui keegi püttidega vahele jääks..
vot see juba oleks .. kui keegi püttidega vahele jääks..
14 July 2017 20:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kunagine suurunistus on ka ise sinnamaani jõuda, sellisel ajal, et oleks veel 30 aastat aega oma kätt küljes hoida.. eks aeg varsti käes ka.. höövel aga mitte
14 July 2017 20:50
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Lepp's post.
Vot kus on ikka päris elu pildid
14 July 2017 20:48
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Lepp's comment.
Närve läheb kindlasti palju :D
14 July 2017 20:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tallinna TV kuluaruanded muidu peaks ka kuskil saadaval olema.. riiigi omad ka kindlasti, kuid need täis proff kanalid kellel palju suurem hulk ruume ja töölisi, kui bare minimum oleks, lihtsalt sellise maapinna katmine,
ühepidi vist lihtne ja odav on digi paketti saada kaablis/telepakettides,
kuid jah.. eraldi, puht teeureetine asi, kuid teatud asjade arutamiseks, arvutamiseks , suhte seletamiseks tarvis.
eks teatud muu telestruktuuri alusel tehtud jaamad ka plaanis kuid see juba pärastine teema, ehk saab kellegile edasi antud kes käiku saab panna, oma võrgus rakendada
ühepidi vist lihtne ja odav on digi paketti saada kaablis/telepakettides,
kuid jah.. eraldi, puht teeureetine asi, kuid teatud asjade arutamiseks, arvutamiseks , suhte seletamiseks tarvis.
eks teatud muu telestruktuuri alusel tehtud jaamad ka plaanis kuid see juba pärastine teema, ehk saab kellegile edasi antud kes käiku saab panna, oma võrgus rakendada
14 July 2017 20:33
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
nu ega mul olegi vaja seda näha, mis tast vaatan
14 July 2017 20:29
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Leivalt's comment.
Group: Kristlased
(PS: vahepeal ilusat ööd ja tänud kena vestluse eest)13 July 2017 23:57
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Leivalt's comment.
Group: Kristlased
"Anne Leivalt Tal vist mingi taluvusprogramm vm käsil "
Mis see on ?13 July 2017 23:55
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Leivalt's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Kuid rahvale endile, siis peale eneseuhkuse miskit Laigna kohta keegi välja eip soovi tuua.. nii ootaks,
sest minul endal lihtne enamusi kritiseerida, eriti kui nad mehed.
Kuid ma huvitatud rohkem teiste häirivusest, et õiged kriitikad endal paika saaksin paremini, mida kasutada teiste aitamiseks13 July 2017 23:45
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Leivalt's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Nu see grupp kus sutsu rohkem inimesi on kui siin, nad lausa blokeerisid sedasi, et gruppi isegi enam ei näe, mitte ei tõstnud välja ainult.
Ma ikka selles põhi, Eesti suurimas grupis olin, või tead veel suuremat Kristlaste gruppi Näoraamatus ?
// Lisaks
Kas Luterlased üldse tohiksid, arvestades vaimset madalamat arengut, jhtida mingisuguseid kristlasi haldavaid suuremad struktuure ja närvikeskpunkte, elektroonilisi ja füüsilisi, ilma, et neil kindel käsuliin ja arusaam oleks, kedaa väljastpoolt kuulata otsuse osas, kui nad ennast mingile inimesele oma isiklikus vaevas ja kiusatuses vastas leerile sättivad
(kiusatuses sest vaimselt madalam tase, mis ei nõua aktiivset alandlikust ja aktiivset õigusenõudmist, Õigeusu järgi on Vatikani ja Vene usk kõrgkooli tasemel ja Luterlased algkooli tasemel, pärisin ka mormonite õdede vendade ja jehoovatunnistajate kohta, kuid pole päris kindlalt meeles, kuhu nod paigutati vanade habemetega pappide järgi... igatahes, Vene usk juba selle pärast on pool sammu õigem, et nad veel Habeme ligi, kuid jällegi vatikanist pool sammu kaugemal, sest ei oma aktiivset muutuse käsku , seega nad sedasi käsikäes lombates haldavad kahte põhi poolkera.. mille vahel õliks protestandid, luterlased... kes ei tune häbi isegi lipsus kirikusse minna, sest ei soovitagi aru saada, mida need sümbolid ja alluvused tähendavad, päris usklikute ja jumalakartlikute silmis )13 July 2017 23:44
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Ecclesia militans - võitlev Kirik
ja teades, et mida vaimupimedamad, seda enam nad ainult maiseid süüdlasi näevad, nende seas kes tegijad,
muidugi, eks see veel selgitamise ole,
eri aegadest vaja allesolevate maailmaversioonidest kokkukoguda varjandid mis tol ajaga seotud inimeste arvates ja reaalselt juhtus,
idees oli vaja suurt draamat mis teiste valu ühendaks sellele tähelepanu juhtides,
maises mõttes,
sest egas siis ta rohkem kangelane polnud, ta kangelastest väheim oli ju selles mõttes, et kui ta teadis, kes ta on, miks ta on ja mis tast saab ja miks, ...siis selle eest läbi teha paljut on köömes võrreldes paljude naiste ja muude õilsate eneseohverdused kui nad oma pere, jumala või usu eest seisid , teades ka, et kui nüüüd lõpp tuleb ega keegi neist ei kuule ka kunagi.. kui siis kuuldakse nende karjeid ainult naaberkülast...13 July 2017 23:28
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Ecclesia militans - võitlev Kirik
nu eks nendel ka oluline töö teha, ja vaata, ku isuurt vatti ja vaeva nad on saanud selle pärast,
oleksid oma rahva peale selle ülesande võtta tahnud mis jumalal oli vaja ära teha ?13 July 2017 23:24
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Leivalt's comment.
Group: Kristlased
see mind ärritabki, ja palju, kui sedasi käitutakse,
et ei võeta vaevaks ega julgetagi, ei enne ega pärast selgitada midagi,
Kunagi varem grupi omanikud mulle ka ei vastanud kui sai miskit muud küsitud, pole meeleski ,kas siis teadsin, et nad juhivad ksukil miskit
Üldiselt on plaan, mul node selliste keäst see grupp ära võtta, kuid las need asjad küpsevad veel, kristlikud relvad ja tehnoloogiad peavad kristliku meeltega iiemste käes olema, eriti kui nad on kristlaste jaoks ja kristlaste kasutada, siis ei tohi ükski omada rohkem kui seda mis on sobilik kogu tões13 July 2017 23:20
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Leivalt's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Ei öeldud ja küsisin, ignoreeritakse13 July 2017 23:19
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Leivalt's comment.
Group: Kristlased
nu sa pole inimene ka, Sa rohkem nagu Naine13 July 2017 23:16
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Leivalt's comment.
Group: Kristlased
räägi nagu maainimene maa inimesele, lühidalt, põhipunktid, arvestades ja uskude,s et teinetark ja saab ka lennult aru13 July 2017 23:15
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Leivalt's comment.
Group: Kristlased
ettekanne13 July 2017 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Ecclesia militans - võitlev Kirik
Mis Sa ise arvad?
Kui JUMAL läkitas, ku iAEG täis sai, kelle järgi siis jumal asju reguleerib, kelle aja, kui mitte selle aja is talle vaja, ehk siis TEMAl sai mingi aeg täis mida vaja oli,
ja kas see kirjas oli, et me selle üle nõu pidama peame, et kas tal oli õigus ise otsustada, millal on aeg täis või mitte, ja kas ta peab sellest meiel aru andma või mitte..
Üldiselt tundub, et esimese osas osas on: tal on õigus teha ja meil pole õigus kritiseerida
ja teine pool tundub: ta ei pea meile aru andma tulma kuid kui küsime südames, siis vajalik vastuse meile garanteer13 July 2017 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Ecclesia militans - võitlev Kirik
nu kuni aeg sinnamaani kosmoses jõudis, et sobilikult aasta 0 tuleks, et aasta 2017 õigel kohal oleks selles osas mis edasi tuleb paari kolme aasta pärast13 July 2017 23:11
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Leivalt's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Võid paar kirjakohta anda mis meelesmõlgub,
Kuid küsimus jääb siis ikka samaks ja lihtsaks, et kui ütlesid välja, et mingi asjadega pole nõus,
kui selle avalikult välja ütlesid, siis palun teine pool ka lausest, et selgus tuleks, mis need asjad on, et Sa temaga täiesti nõusse saaks, või tema Sinu nõu järgi oleks, targem13 July 2017 23:07
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's post.
Oleks siis veel, et inimese kohta, kuid kogu punt kokku... oeh, ega raha polegi peamine, lihtsalt kurb ku iseda pole, et saaks peamiseni
13 July 2017 22:59
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Leivalt's comment.
Group: Kristlased
No nii, ses osas, et Sinul on oma pastor kellel mõistus peas ja siis Laigna l on ka samasorti mõistus kui Su mehel ?13 July 2017 22:53
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Leivalt's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Anne Leivalt vaatame tundub, et räägime millegist omavahel mööda, mida moodi sa seda meessoo paastori asja mõtlesid ?
Mina muidugi tõstsin esile sugu, sest olulised arvamused mehel saavad naise osas olla ja kuna oled naine siis selles osas esmajärgulisena uurin, et kas naiste suhtes on tal Sinu silmis täielik Tegu ja Tõde ja mida paremaks saaksid õpetada kuid lisaks veel, mis muud tema ideoloogias, faktides või tõlgendustes, mooduses on mis Jumalasuunalisemaks teda muudaks,
Ma teen natukene jumalatööd ainetega ja leian mooduse selle soovi temas täide viimiseks, sellele lähemalegi viimiseks, suht lihtsasti võrreldes võimatuga13 July 2017 22:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
väärtust/mõjuvõimu/olulisust
13 July 2017 22:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Riigil peaks olema lubatud, sellist asja välja vabandada, memos,
öeldes, et meie riik on ideoloogilises ülevõtus välisvõimude poolt ja kahjuks demokraatia limitatsioone järgides me mõned strateegilised positsioonid ajutiselt käest antud (nüüd nad on pääsenud nende strateegiliste kohtadeni)
kuid need keda me ei soosi ei ole ega saa olla Meie riigi ega enamuse rahva hääle kandja,
// seega võtku nad arvesse, et meie riik ja rahvas ei kinnita ega lükka ümber riigikriitiliste jõudude käitumise kuid kindlasti pole me selleks oma algatust teinud ja soovime hoopis kodumaalisemat inimest nendel positsioonidel, kelle osas päris Eestlased saavad kindla aususega veendunult väita, et nad usaldavad ja tunnevad ennast hästi, et just see inimene, on see kelle läbi meie kultuuri poole vaadatakse,
Neid on väga palju, suurem osa poliitikute ja ärimeeste naisigi sobib ainuüksi võimaluste osas, kus neil on aega olnud tajuda või kogeda, enda tegelikku väärtust
öeldes, et meie riik on ideoloogilises ülevõtus välisvõimude poolt ja kahjuks demokraatia limitatsioone järgides me mõned strateegilised positsioonid ajutiselt käest antud (nüüd nad on pääsenud nende strateegiliste kohtadeni)
kuid need keda me ei soosi ei ole ega saa olla Meie riigi ega enamuse rahva hääle kandja,
// seega võtku nad arvesse, et meie riik ja rahvas ei kinnita ega lükka ümber riigikriitiliste jõudude käitumise kuid kindlasti pole me selleks oma algatust teinud ja soovime hoopis kodumaalisemat inimest nendel positsioonidel, kelle osas päris Eestlased saavad kindla aususega veendunult väita, et nad usaldavad ja tunnevad ennast hästi, et just see inimene, on see kelle läbi meie kultuuri poole vaadatakse,
Neid on väga palju, suurem osa poliitikute ja ärimeeste naisigi sobib ainuüksi võimaluste osas, kus neil on aega olnud tajuda või kogeda, enda tegelikku väärtust
13 July 2017 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on Riina Solman's post.
See, et meil sellised inimesed on ministriks pandud on häbi mille peame oskama välja vabandada,
// Lisaks,
keeleoskus, veel on täiesti teisejärguline (SELLE kõrval), kuid, et
mitte, et ta isikuna kuri oleks, vaid nagu umbes miski rekajuhi või keskklassi äraostetava ärika oleksime pannud meie maa ühe olulisema positsiooni tippu, veel omakorda erakonnast, kes on RIIGI KRIITILINE ja vastandub ennast ametliku võimuga samal ajal omades enamuses (või kõige enam) klientuuris ja valijates Eesti Põlastajaid,
KE, toetajates KÕIGE ENAM neid kes on EESTI riigi ja Vanarahva ideoloogia likvideerimise poolt kui see vaid valitsevad Eestlased pukist minema aitaks lükata,
" kes iganes asemele tuleb senikaua kui pole Eesti Patriootlikud. "
SELLISEID punte Kõige rohkem toetanud partei tipu küljealt inimene, läheb MEIE riiki esindama,
kas ta oleks seda saanutki Ausalt teha muudmoodi kui nõutud nende poolt kellel salalepingud Eesti Vastu,
või PIGEM leppis (või soovis leppida) ta kokku alandlikult ja tarkust soovivalt, Eesti sügavaima ja targeimate keele, kultuuri ja väärtuste kandjatega, et teada, mida ja kuidas sobib tema olukorras välismaal endast välja näidata, et me jätaks riigi mulje keda oleks mõtet alles jätta.
Või on.. välismaa Rocafellerite silmis mingi järjekordne, veel kitsa pintsakuga paberilt lugeja, kellel välis_ilma jaoks on väga vähe katekoorjaid kus skoorida,
Eestlaste Geni Kogukond
// Lisaks,
keeleoskus, veel on täiesti teisejärguline (SELLE kõrval), kuid, et
mitte, et ta isikuna kuri oleks, vaid nagu umbes miski rekajuhi või keskklassi äraostetava ärika oleksime pannud meie maa ühe olulisema positsiooni tippu, veel omakorda erakonnast, kes on RIIGI KRIITILINE ja vastandub ennast ametliku võimuga samal ajal omades enamuses (või kõige enam) klientuuris ja valijates Eesti Põlastajaid,
KE, toetajates KÕIGE ENAM neid kes on EESTI riigi ja Vanarahva ideoloogia likvideerimise poolt kui see vaid valitsevad Eestlased pukist minema aitaks lükata,
" kes iganes asemele tuleb senikaua kui pole Eesti Patriootlikud. "
SELLISEID punte Kõige rohkem toetanud partei tipu küljealt inimene, läheb MEIE riiki esindama,
kas ta oleks seda saanutki Ausalt teha muudmoodi kui nõutud nende poolt kellel salalepingud Eesti Vastu,
või PIGEM leppis (või soovis leppida) ta kokku alandlikult ja tarkust soovivalt, Eesti sügavaima ja targeimate keele, kultuuri ja väärtuste kandjatega, et teada, mida ja kuidas sobib tema olukorras välismaal endast välja näidata, et me jätaks riigi mulje keda oleks mõtet alles jätta.
Või on.. välismaa Rocafellerite silmis mingi järjekordne, veel kitsa pintsakuga paberilt lugeja, kellel välis_ilma jaoks on väga vähe katekoorjaid kus skoorida,
Eestlaste Geni Kogukond
13 July 2017 22:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Oot ma loen homme veel korra läbi, ehk veel pole ka päris täiuslik, kuid esimene lause peaks koodimiseks elusa aluspinna andma
13 July 2017 21:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Nu kas pole trip kuidas ma akent hoian
13 July 2017 21:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sõbralaul u video siia lisada oleks juba pea liig
13 July 2017 21:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// kuigi suts liialt pioneeriliku optimismiga, kuid..
Ei keela maailm mulle päiksekiirt
End aina saatjaks pakub sõbralik pilv
Lind laulusoojust pillab mu jalge ette
Pärja punub pääsusilm...
Ja nõnda
Jee-jee, meil pole varandust vaja
Jee-jee, meil pole mugavat maja
Jee-jee, ei autost unista me
(See, jah see on hea
See on hea, nii hea!)
Kuid siiski
Jee-jee, laul leiab üles meid ikka
Jee-jee, rõõm muudab elu nii pikaks
Jee-jee, meid rikkaks armastus teeb
(See, jah see on hea
See on hea, nii hea!)
Kuu küljest murda hõbekillu võin
Täht hõõgub peol, kui välja sirutan käe
Öölt sooja mantli endale laenan selga
Kui su juurde kauaks jään...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_tTj6cvh58
Ei keela maailm mulle päiksekiirt
End aina saatjaks pakub sõbralik pilv
Lind laulusoojust pillab mu jalge ette
Pärja punub pääsusilm...
Ja nõnda
Jee-jee, meil pole varandust vaja
Jee-jee, meil pole mugavat maja
Jee-jee, ei autost unista me
(See, jah see on hea
See on hea, nii hea!)
Kuid siiski
Jee-jee, laul leiab üles meid ikka
Jee-jee, rõõm muudab elu nii pikaks
Jee-jee, meid rikkaks armastus teeb
(See, jah see on hea
See on hea, nii hea!)
Kuu küljest murda hõbekillu võin
Täht hõõgub peol, kui välja sirutan käe
Öölt sooja mantli endale laenan selga
Kui su juurde kauaks jään...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_tTj6cvh58
13 July 2017 21:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Väikses linnus on suur maailm jah suur nii suur linnuke on ilmale kui puur jah puur
asjad selles ilmas kõik on nii ja naa
tuhka sest, et aru sest ei saa ei saa
ja mina olen sina oled kui veel pole küll sa tuled,
tule tule meie ilma,
Ilmas olla on nii hea meil on nii hea,
olemata olema ei pea ei pea.
Ilmas olla polemist ei saa ei saa
meile olemas on ilm ja maa on ka
ja mina olen sina oled kui veel pole küll sa tuled
tule tule meie ilma ilmas mängust ei jää ilma.
(Vahemäng)
Lind see õitseb lill see laulab jah lill aprill
peidus pajuoksa sees on pill mis pill
hambaid uusi juba suus on kuus ei viis
läheb metsa lauluga see viis mis siis
ja mida pole seda pole olemist ju lihtsalt pole
tule ole tule ole tule ikka meie poole.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4v2rlxANPs
asjad selles ilmas kõik on nii ja naa
tuhka sest, et aru sest ei saa ei saa
ja mina olen sina oled kui veel pole küll sa tuled,
tule tule meie ilma,
Ilmas olla on nii hea meil on nii hea,
olemata olema ei pea ei pea.
Ilmas olla polemist ei saa ei saa
meile olemas on ilm ja maa on ka
ja mina olen sina oled kui veel pole küll sa tuled
tule tule meie ilma ilmas mängust ei jää ilma.
(Vahemäng)
Lind see õitseb lill see laulab jah lill aprill
peidus pajuoksa sees on pill mis pill
hambaid uusi juba suus on kuus ei viis
läheb metsa lauluga see viis mis siis
ja mida pole seda pole olemist ju lihtsalt pole
tule ole tule ole tule ikka meie poole.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4v2rlxANPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4v2rlxANPs
13 July 2017 21:40
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's post.
nujah, 2020 neks neil suured plaanid ju uued, 3 uut kosmosejaama saadetakse korraga üles, uued seaduse ja maailmakorraduse paketid ja palju muud...
enamus maadest peaks olema selleks ajaks igasugune iseriiklikus ja kahtlane rahuslikus pühitud kelle riigil on ametnike kohtadel, kes kaamerate ees plässi teha võiksid
enamus maadest peaks olema selleks ajaks igasugune iseriiklikus ja kahtlane rahuslikus pühitud kelle riigil on ametnike kohtadel, kes kaamerate ees plässi teha võiksid
13 July 2017 20:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
küll ma sinna veel kunagi satun, siis veel tõsisemalt... kuigi ta pool füüsiliselt proovis mind ignoreerida vahepeal, kuni vastuseid ootasin, et miks ta läbi usu koos kirikusolijatega asju korda ei tee või oma autot müüki ei pane kogukonna nimel,
viimane suts äärmuslik, kuid nu kui päris uskuja olla ja tulemusega asju teha... siis nii ekstreem idee see ka pole...
Kui REAALNE uskuja olla.
viimane suts äärmuslik, kuid nu kui päris uskuja olla ja tulemusega asju teha... siis nii ekstreem idee see ka pole...
Kui REAALNE uskuja olla.
13 July 2017 20:33
Margus Meigo commented on Tauno Krull's post.
nu mis jura nad nüüd teevad, mis moodi see läbi läheb.. mis usutööd sääl tegema hakatakse karbis kui praegused kirikud, mille nad suure hooga üle võtnud, isegi nendes ei suudeta teha usutööd?
Endiselt järgitakse poole jalaga Lutherit ja seotakse lipsu kaela, et kuulda, mida ühiskond mida kritiseerivad, neile ütleb, mida nad tegema peaksid.
Kui kaua võivad nad kirikut lahti hoida ja muud regulatsioonid... suuusulised meil siin.. pilvelõhkujaid ehitama, anna abi.
Ühe vaneima Eesti kiriku tarvis, mis suur väärtusi pPõlva poolses eestis,
noomisin, et miks nad omameestegagi elementaarse remondi sees ära ei tee, et väärtusi kaitsta, siis anti mõista, et ega raha taevast ei tule ja isegi kui neil oleks raha mida kindalt ei tule, siis neil pole isegi luba et kirikut seest remotida ja korras hoida... nu sellised tegelased.. (ktil endal, preestril, oli privaat ruum kalli ärimehekohaselt naha ja puiduga sisustatud, ja muud asjad) ..
Endiselt järgitakse poole jalaga Lutherit ja seotakse lipsu kaela, et kuulda, mida ühiskond mida kritiseerivad, neile ütleb, mida nad tegema peaksid.
Kui kaua võivad nad kirikut lahti hoida ja muud regulatsioonid... suuusulised meil siin.. pilvelõhkujaid ehitama, anna abi.
Ühe vaneima Eesti kiriku tarvis, mis suur väärtusi pPõlva poolses eestis,
noomisin, et miks nad omameestegagi elementaarse remondi sees ära ei tee, et väärtusi kaitsta, siis anti mõista, et ega raha taevast ei tule ja isegi kui neil oleks raha mida kindalt ei tule, siis neil pole isegi luba et kirikut seest remotida ja korras hoida... nu sellised tegelased.. (ktil endal, preestril, oli privaat ruum kalli ärimehekohaselt naha ja puiduga sisustatud, ja muud asjad) ..
13 July 2017 20:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
13 July 2017 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: PÄevikud - Paberkirjad - Vana meeldetuletus uue arusaamiseks
NU on tegu, hakkab pihta, kogu albumi nime ära kustutanud ja albumi kirjelduse,
Ja üldse muus formaadis näitab siin pildi albumit hoopiski.
Kus maseda nüüd uuesti energiga saan kirjutada...
Ja veel teine album mis sai postitatud, see ei postita end üldse... urrh..13 July 2017 18:26
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Leivalt's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Anne Leivalt agamillised seisukohadneed valed tal on ja kuidas Sinu meelest paremini, Sulle kui Naisele sobiks, nii temal kui mehel osade asjade teistmoodi, paremini uskumine,
kui ka mis Sinu arvates, enamustele naistele paremini sobiks mida tead (et kui mitte nõus oled), milles ta eksib
oih see lause, et siis vaat, et Sa ei vasta, et sinu arvamus ainult sinu enda jaoks hea jms, see mulle ei sobi, sest ma selle järgi vestlen, toimetan, mis õigemast õigeim on, ja kui tal midagi oli, mis ei sobi, siis see on midagi mis Sinu meeles, ka enamustele, parimatele, targimatele naistele ei sobi käitumises või seisukoha,s usuasjas või esitluses,
kindlasti, söenda : )13 July 2017 17:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
( talking about https://www.facebook.com/zuck/videos/10103879609717821/?ref=notif¬if_t=live_video_explicit¬if_id=1499895938728991 )
13 July 2017 17:22
Margus Meigo replied to Lanora Cuellar's comment.
by far not,
i am here so others can enjoy life, and this is HOW i enjoy life, when i do my best, that would be, places , where people can enjoy , and have a life
i am here so others can enjoy life, and this is HOW i enjoy life, when i do my best, that would be, places , where people can enjoy , and have a life
13 July 2017 17:19
Margus Meigo replied to Ly Sameli's comment.
selles , et mitte omakasusse takerduda, ja samas ka mitte surma saada, kuid piisavalt kindlalt ja järjepidevalt midagi nii suurelt ära teha, et su tehtu alles jääks lähipõlvedele, .. on vaja suurelt nii seest kui väljast mõelda..
ja siis samamoodi samu asu edasi tehes, kuid suts targema kallakuga, rohkemate koostöödega, kaasmõtlejatega eri kohtades ja asukohtades, nii peas kui võimalustes
ja siis samamoodi samu asu edasi tehes, kuid suts targema kallakuga, rohkemate koostöödega, kaasmõtlejatega eri kohtades ja asukohtades, nii peas kui võimalustes
13 July 2017 17:02
Margus Meigo commented on Kaupo Muttik's post.
kui neil on õigus õelda mis nad arvavad siis meil on õigus öelda mis me arvame, eriti kui see naturaalse looduseaduste ja eluterve vaimueluga kokku käib
13 July 2017 17:00
Margus Meigo commented on Joaquim Manuel Pilar Fonseca's photo.
But man's still need to grow a proper beard, to be on level, with women heart and earth,
hair also will not hurt if not (working as) a gravedigger.
// maybe matters a little, just heard, that long hair and unalive will not go well together, have to make cleanings extra later.. + emotional memory collects in it and.. who knows..
But yea, often i see who is able to handle land, who animals, who woods and who family, but in the end all the feelings and spectrum that She needs, the shaved man will have hard time to fulfill seems to me
hair also will not hurt if not (working as) a gravedigger.
// maybe matters a little, just heard, that long hair and unalive will not go well together, have to make cleanings extra later.. + emotional memory collects in it and.. who knows..
But yea, often i see who is able to handle land, who animals, who woods and who family, but in the end all the feelings and spectrum that She needs, the shaved man will have hard time to fulfill seems to me
13 July 2017 16:35
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's photo.
Do kido knaw?
13 July 2017 16:29
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's photo.
is good now?
13 July 2017 16:28
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
the video also gets interrupted and cut of, but i can try to hear later, the recording, i guess it will stay here to play later , lucky the kids who got these kind of parents and grand parents,
but yes, i my self, am not so much of the kind who like to keep animal, only the ones who move on with me them self, i will accept, anything else feels like taking their freedom away, in a way.. .
well, yes, You got big great lands, no idea if You sale meat for food also, but in the end.. just my personal spiritual feeling that i feel is also correct in great length , .. is that, we should not control the animals, help, yes... but not manage... also same way feeling about most of the plants that humans has made, carrots even, ... kind of plants that are unable to survive proper whit out humans, they feel not so real to me.
but i just need to perhaps keep few steps more natural/acient then average, to have perspective, for my work
but yes, i my self, am not so much of the kind who like to keep animal, only the ones who move on with me them self, i will accept, anything else feels like taking their freedom away, in a way.. .
well, yes, You got big great lands, no idea if You sale meat for food also, but in the end.. just my personal spiritual feeling that i feel is also correct in great length , .. is that, we should not control the animals, help, yes... but not manage... also same way feeling about most of the plants that humans has made, carrots even, ... kind of plants that are unable to survive proper whit out humans, they feel not so real to me.
but i just need to perhaps keep few steps more natural/acient then average, to have perspective, for my work
13 July 2017 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
I guess my English is in most part readable, on main points : )
13 July 2017 16:12
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
But i feel in soul, these kind of kingdom You got, would be danger to let go away the potential.. this might be in 500 years place, where is remembered: Here one heroic women, in middle of ages of "Modern architecture" construction, where all was for sale and every one was put on to situations where they even thought to be able sale their spirit top of all parents lands, ... She managed to Stop the invasion of commercial soulless destruction of life, and told "no more from these border, if only then more of this what is nice"
and She organized.. the old and the Youth in devoted way.. to make sure, the lands will always end up with people who do nothing less then She would, who will demand nothing less then what she planned and who for sore not let anyone to shop pieces away from as long the eye can see, .... only that, what is good can be, good is natural that will look good even if You let it rest 100 years,
this will be one of the startup waves... among all others who do similar alliance with anyone who they can find and can make to be trusted...
these plans are something to meditate on.. got a lot of structures in head, that can help to invoke and self protect all these kind of lands.. but have to be a bit conservative, so the land will not end up as fake hipster communist revolutionary camps to get wasted on...
there need to be cross investigators, who will keep the ones who was trusted to hold the land... will keep looking, and advising. how to make sure that next century's the situation will stay safe. For the natural ones.
--
at least try to plan something, is better then no plan at all,
as long the reason for the plan, is to have worth plan that helps all other natural needed plans to become alive
and She organized.. the old and the Youth in devoted way.. to make sure, the lands will always end up with people who do nothing less then She would, who will demand nothing less then what she planned and who for sore not let anyone to shop pieces away from as long the eye can see, .... only that, what is good can be, good is natural that will look good even if You let it rest 100 years,
this will be one of the startup waves... among all others who do similar alliance with anyone who they can find and can make to be trusted...
these plans are something to meditate on.. got a lot of structures in head, that can help to invoke and self protect all these kind of lands.. but have to be a bit conservative, so the land will not end up as fake hipster communist revolutionary camps to get wasted on...
there need to be cross investigators, who will keep the ones who was trusted to hold the land... will keep looking, and advising. how to make sure that next century's the situation will stay safe. For the natural ones.
--
at least try to plan something, is better then no plan at all,
as long the reason for the plan, is to have worth plan that helps all other natural needed plans to become alive
13 July 2017 16:11
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
For You most likely the mescalin / peyote then is an treat, as so real, on ground, magic mushrooms in unprepared natural setting, might be a bit to much uplifting and down right confusing at times,
have not managed to get to so holy plants my self, MD_MA is nearest that we can experience but this will not compare in fun friendly long nature directed San Pedro - Mescaline Cactus,or Peruvian Torch
Now day's there is postal orders possible to do around the world (just great amount sellers specially outline USA as place where they do Not send, ... but i guess, USA got their own nature fields large, where they can find what is needed)
have not managed to get to so holy plants my self, MD_MA is nearest that we can experience but this will not compare in fun friendly long nature directed San Pedro - Mescaline Cactus,or Peruvian Torch
Now day's there is postal orders possible to do around the world (just great amount sellers specially outline USA as place where they do Not send, ... but i guess, USA got their own nature fields large, where they can find what is needed)
13 July 2017 15:58
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
Are You kind of like Native ? From generations who are not out of wearing suits and plastic clothes, but from like among real humans, village , country/nature culture ?
13 July 2017 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
How many helpers You got with all the land and animals ?
13 July 2017 15:50
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
The white horse : ))
She there?
She there?
13 July 2017 15:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Got it, Video works now!
Thanks !
Thanks !
13 July 2017 15:47
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
(but now the "dry the swamp" kind of people, want to start to build railways across these kind of lands... destruction will be extreme ... first they place ALL pebble / Gravel stone' material that entire country resources has, and dump in to there to flatten out the deep soft ground, then they build massive stone walls around the railway that will cut entire country to 2 sides from where animals in most of wild nature will be not able to continue the nature life paths... then all the unneeded culture that will start to flood in and extreme cost that we our self have to pay for the road late, to keep it going... and top of all they build the old rail style, the speed road, that is already aged, out of touch with future.. )
So this what they try to do with places like that: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212427427777492&set=a.10212427391936596.1073741884.1135161043&type=3&theater
but as these places help to regulate weather, the natural spirits, waters, .. in the end spirit core of our people.. then i got no idea how, no one globally is reacting to it,
as head of country in here also was invaded, a bit more rude way then in USA,
in here, we managed them to not get president position, by force they did take prime minister, but after our Women (biologist top of all) as president it seems as she is taken in hostage and before she talked from heart, now she reads from paper even most simple things with shaky voice, also the tone, many things has changed in National TV stations that have been keeping them self pro conservative nature and honesty loving.
Many other things, that to much deep in local business, to share outside, but You got the picture, and she as president now also was forced to agree with the railway plan.
This is on picture is not the 100% same location from where they want to build road now, but similar place.
...and as so many kids from country side, is gone away (my point where i getting)
then there is not so many true people left who can protect the situations, as the controllers, communists, they control lands so that make kids and parents not to be in same team, so all what parents even manage to get with serious work or intelligence, will be taken back from people,
as there will not be kids and friends who would keep things going more and more on to directions that makes us humans again.
Or humaine. in a good sense of a word. Godly
So this what they try to do with places like that: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212427427777492&set=a.10212427391936596.1073741884.1135161043&type=3&theater
but as these places help to regulate weather, the natural spirits, waters, .. in the end spirit core of our people.. then i got no idea how, no one globally is reacting to it,
as head of country in here also was invaded, a bit more rude way then in USA,
in here, we managed them to not get president position, by force they did take prime minister, but after our Women (biologist top of all) as president it seems as she is taken in hostage and before she talked from heart, now she reads from paper even most simple things with shaky voice, also the tone, many things has changed in National TV stations that have been keeping them self pro conservative nature and honesty loving.
Many other things, that to much deep in local business, to share outside, but You got the picture, and she as president now also was forced to agree with the railway plan.
This is on picture is not the 100% same location from where they want to build road now, but similar place.
...and as so many kids from country side, is gone away (my point where i getting)
then there is not so many true people left who can protect the situations, as the controllers, communists, they control lands so that make kids and parents not to be in same team, so all what parents even manage to get with serious work or intelligence, will be taken back from people,
as there will not be kids and friends who would keep things going more and more on to directions that makes us humans again.
Or humaine. in a good sense of a word. Godly
13 July 2017 15:46
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
Few miles behind our house, or country largest natural swamp lake:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212427396976722&set=a.10212427391936596.1073741884.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212427396976722&set=a.10212427391936596.1073741884.1135161043&type=3&theater
13 July 2017 15:33
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
These are kind of things, that Your kids will need ,to understand what You got, // can You talk about that, a bit, what happened? : )
(i am big advocate all psychedelics )
(i am big advocate all psychedelics )
13 July 2017 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
Okey, WHY ? Are You kidding, :p ... did a wrong way perhaps something
13 July 2017 15:29
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
They need proper plants, mushrooms, to get mommy level
13 July 2017 15:28
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
Haa You will not leave it for a corporations as empty land do yo u:D
13 July 2017 15:27
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
As we need generation to generation keeping these kind of life going, is kind of Estonia Way, You got to own land as much You see, so Your soul has room to grow
13 July 2017 15:27
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
Proper, But Your kids will get that? I mean, do they "get that" ?
13 July 2017 15:26
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
From parents?
13 July 2017 15:25
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
How big is You aria ?
13 July 2017 15:24
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
Wou, You got Real life there going on !
13 July 2017 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
: )))
Mule, this is mixture of donkey and horse?
Albino ?
Mule, this is mixture of donkey and horse?
Albino ?
13 July 2017 15:20
Margus Meigo commented on Lanora Cuellar's live video.
Awww u got donkey : )(
13 July 2017 15:19
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Leivalt's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Jumala tegudes pole veel midagi ebaloogilist ja väära näinud, selliselt kirja pandud Jeesuse lugudes aga küll,
aga isegi kui vaja, eks jumal suudab ka seda tõepähe võtta, ja koos Laigna anunakide juttudega ühiselt maarahvale arusaadavaks usuks teha ilma vähimaigi kahtluseta, et lõppude lõpuks on Üks looja millele ka need peavad alluma, kes meie tegemisel abiks olid.
Saadi, räägiti ju mitmuses to aeg, et "Meie sarnaseks" v13 July 2017 15:18
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Leivalt's comment.
Group: Kristlased
ja see teine inimene, kes postitas
jumala lõpu kohta postituse, sai palju vastuseid ja imestas, miks tema postitus sääl alles oli, ja mind ära blokeeriti.
Panin selgituse juurde ka veel, miks mida kirjutasin, et abist aru saadaks, ja oskaks inimesed ette valmistada asjade osas kui öeldakse, et "Jeesus on antiKristus" või et Antikristus on see sama, kes inimesi isast eemale tiris, lõhe tekitas ja ise inimese ja jumala vahele vahendajaks ennast pani.13 July 2017 15:15
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Leivalt's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Keegi võib veel huvi mõttes vaadata, kas see
Joel Steinfield, on veel selles grupis alles, kes räuskas sääl roppustega:
joel-friedrich-steinfeldt.blogspot.comhttp://joel-friedrich-steinfeldt.blogspot.com/
13 July 2017 15:07
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Leivalt's comment.
Group: Kristlased
"Muud jama" Et siis Laigna on ka jama, või minu ajamised, on, tunduvad jamad?13 July 2017 15:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi tegelikuses, otsest alluvust ja seltsimehelikust maises sõbralikus mõttes tal , ta naiste seas ei jätnu, kuid see vast mingi vanem standard mida ma taga ajan, et mitte jutus ianult vaid ka tegudes
13 July 2017 15:04
Margus Meigo replied to Sar James-Colline Laurent's comment.
Are You sure, they are involved in there ?
13 July 2017 14:53
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
Fun Fact, South Dakota has as much people, as in Estonia got Native people out of 1.4 million.
Out of these 850 000, some say perhaps as much as 5% are still in tune with their roots and more then 70% are accepting spirit worlds interactions and helping wild nature, from few generation back, as good example of their national true heritage.
There is many actions combined against us knowingly and unknowingly but for now, we still will do our best to explain all that to a world as naturally as we can, keeping our outer image humbly away from our true godly natural origin.
But i got some other interesting plants that should help all nations to focus on wise betterment , by also keeping clear samples of the actions that will not be tolerated in future.
Out of these 850 000, some say perhaps as much as 5% are still in tune with their roots and more then 70% are accepting spirit worlds interactions and helping wild nature, from few generation back, as good example of their national true heritage.
There is many actions combined against us knowingly and unknowingly but for now, we still will do our best to explain all that to a world as naturally as we can, keeping our outer image humbly away from our true godly natural origin.
But i got some other interesting plants that should help all nations to focus on wise betterment , by also keeping clear samples of the actions that will not be tolerated in future.
13 July 2017 14:52
Margus Meigo replied to Maarja Hiiekivi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
asoo, kuidas Sul see juhtus*?13 July 2017 10:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
kuigi, vast kunagi saab ka teha, nii, et oleks mingiski mõttes suur ühistunne, millesees kokkulepe, taoliste osas, kellele see maa tegelikult kuulub13 July 2017 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Saksa Lipp ka veel särgipeal, ju sellepärast enne kiitis nii palju seda kultuuri, aga nad on ju päriseestlastega, head sakslased, kes normaalsed, eesti keskmisest mitu roboti taset allpool, kuna lisaks võrreldavad linna ja haritlaste oskused piisaval hulgal kui vaja, on meil ka tsiviliseeritud looduseusundite, ja jumaliku võlukunsti ning vanarahva oskused paremas täielikuses koos rahvuslusega alles kui neil kunagi saaks nii suuure maana13 July 2017 01:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid kas selline süvaalaarenguRelv ... kas seda peaks suts tõsisemalt käsitlema...
13 July 2017 01:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
muidugi naiste osas peab ta arusama, et see aeg juba olid need samad nakid või kommunistid,
kellest enne rääkis,
pani need nasied tääle sedasi "vahvalt"
nõukaajal ka võiks ju osad kiita mis rasket tööd naised said tehkud kuni mehed õlle panid
kellest enne rääkis,
pani need nasied tääle sedasi "vahvalt"
nõukaajal ka võiks ju osad kiita mis rasket tööd naised said tehkud kuni mehed õlle panid
13 July 2017 01:31
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
ma ikka veel ei saa päris aru mis sa mõtlesid sellega, kuid toimetan selle kallal
13 July 2017 01:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
13 July 2017 01:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
13 July 2017 01:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
13 July 2017 00:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
elevator, lift drives down there , in 10, 12 minutes, miles deep in a ground
13 July 2017 00:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
by now still try hard to tune my self on to these possible levels, to see value on it from all the other things that they can be telling to humans right now... as potentially most viewed TV channel potential, then anyone, in world
as it is Hi's own platform also, giving an edge
as it is Hi's own platform also, giving an edge
13 July 2017 00:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i have have to hear it once more, to make sure, if they actually talk about something or not,
13 July 2017 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
OKey where Does the OLD comments go, can we still READ them later??
13 July 2017 00:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
13 July 2017 00:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
13 July 2017 00:51
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
13 July 2017 00:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
ja kui ütleme, et saksa on see mis ta enne 2000 aastat tagasi oli, siis kui palju NENDE aegsetel nad tuhande aasta taguse või praeguste avaliku eliidiga läbi saaksid, kas tolle aegsed aksepteeriksid kasvõi mingisugusegi muusuguseks surumise kui see mis nad olla soovivad,
ja kas nad siis üldsegi kuni hilisete popiidolite ajani olid võimelised muud moodi kui peidus olla
et oodata õiget aega olukorra seedimiseks , isegi kui seeditakse sajandeid13 July 2017 00:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
näiteks üks tund, 47 minuti peal, aegas, ma enne seda tolle asjaga, et Sakslased Hinge ja Greeklased keha ülistamisega tegelesid,
pigem Saksa oli ju ka Rooma impeeriumi kontrolli all, kui palju erinev sai see Greeka omast olla võrreldes reaalsete iidsete eesti sugustega ?13 July 2017 00:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
võite mulle ka privaatselt kirjutada12 July 2017 23:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Ma ikka ei saa aru, kuidas keegi ei julge sellel teemal rääkida, kas minig tehnoloogia hoiab eil seda postitust nägemast ja sellele reageerimast ?
Igast välismaa asju jagame ja räägime kuid kodumaise, ühe olulisema usuga seotud inimese jutuosas ei ole julgeid, kes oskaks midagi öelda, miks ta nii räägib videos ?12 July 2017 23:34
Margus Meigo replied to Arved Meipalu's comment.
Group: Flirtic Tutvus
tuus, tnx12 July 2017 23:20
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Jaanisk's post.
Kas See siis saab tõrsti sedasi juhtuda sellest mürgist mis nad kasutavad... või kasutasid nad seekord veelgi midagi keelatumat
12 July 2017 23:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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12 July 2017 22:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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12 July 2017 22:44
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12 July 2017 22:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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12 July 2017 22:39
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12 July 2017 20:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
interesting, how they handle... by selling nothing...
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12 July 2017 20:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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7. Capable of handling larger data volumes, with acceptable throughput.
8. Generic and well-abstracted design, compatible with all new and existing network enabled software.
http://phantom-anon.blogspot.com.ee/
http://www.sb-innovation.de/f238/phantom-new-anonymized-p2p-protocol-25038/
https://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/comments/147rjc/why_isnt_there_more_interest_in_the_phantom/
https://www.reddit.com/user/meshnet_derp
http://phantom-anon.blogspot.com.ee/
12 July 2017 20:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Basic Account: FREE
2028 bit
Yes, our Basic Accounts are free. While you do get the same level of security, privacy, and ease of use as a Premium Account, we limit your speed through the VPN to 300kbps and you are restricted to one location in the United States.
https://secure.proxpn.com/
2028 bit
Yes, our Basic Accounts are free. While you do get the same level of security, privacy, and ease of use as a Premium Account, we limit your speed through the VPN to 300kbps and you are restricted to one location in the United States.
https://secure.proxpn.com/
https://secure.proxpn.com/
12 July 2017 20:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(linux and browser addon only )
What is CacheBrowser?
CacheBrowser is a system designed to help Internet users bypass Internet censorship.
The core idea of CacheBrowser is to grab censored content cached by Content Delivery Networks such as Akamai and CloudFlare directly from their CDN edge servers, therefore, foiling censors' DNS interference.
To learn more about CacheBrowser's design details, properties, and limitations see our design papers published at ACM CCS 2015 and ACM CCS 2016.
How Are We Different?
Regular censorship resistance systems like Tor, Psiphon, Ultrasurf, and VPN systems deploy various kinds of proxy servers (e.g., run by volunteers or other third-parties) in order to bypass censors who blacklist IP addresses.
By contrast, CacheBrowser makes use of no third-party proxies! It directly downloads censored content from CDN edge servers, therefore, offering unique security and performance advantages over regular censorship resistance systems.
What's New?
CacheBrowser is in active development mode. However, you can download the latest version of our tool and check it out. Use it at your own risk! We're still working on improving the tools' performance and security.
If you want to help us in any way let us know.
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https://www.cachebrowser.info/#/download
What is CacheBrowser?
CacheBrowser is a system designed to help Internet users bypass Internet censorship.
The core idea of CacheBrowser is to grab censored content cached by Content Delivery Networks such as Akamai and CloudFlare directly from their CDN edge servers, therefore, foiling censors' DNS interference.
To learn more about CacheBrowser's design details, properties, and limitations see our design paper published at ACM CCS 2015.... More Info »
How Are We Different?
Regular censorship resistance systems like Tor, Psiphon, Ultrasurf, and VPN systems deploy various kinds of proxy servers (e.g., run by volunteers or other third-parties) in order to bypass censors who blacklist IP addresses.
By contrast, CacheBrowser makes use of no third-party proxies! It directly downloads censored content from CDN edge servers, therefore, offering unique security and performance advantages over regular censorship resistance systems.
Which Pages Are Supported?
Unlike regular circumvention systems, CacheBrowser is not a generic circumvention system: it can only browse censored pages that are
Hosted on a shared CDN (such as Akamai, Fastly, CloudFlare, etc.)
Support HTTPS
Fortunately, many websites already satisfy both of the conditions. If you are a content publisher, you can easily make your website CacheBrowsable by hosting it on a shared CDN network (this will also improve your site's reliability, QoS, and security).
The website you are viewing right now satisfies both requirements and will always be available through CacheBrowser.
What's New?
CacheBrowser is in active development mode. However, you can download the latest version of our tool and check it out. Use it at your own risk! We're still working on improving the tools' performance and security.
If you want to help us in any way let us know.
Who Are We?
CacheBrowser has been designed and developed by the SPIN research group at UMass Amherst.
Contact amir@cs.umass.edu for questions or comments.
What is CacheBrowser?
CacheBrowser is a system designed to help Internet users bypass Internet censorship.
The core idea of CacheBrowser is to grab censored content cached by Content Delivery Networks such as Akamai and CloudFlare directly from their CDN edge servers, therefore, foiling censors' DNS interference.
To learn more about CacheBrowser's design details, properties, and limitations see our design papers published at ACM CCS 2015 and ACM CCS 2016.
How Are We Different?
Regular censorship resistance systems like Tor, Psiphon, Ultrasurf, and VPN systems deploy various kinds of proxy servers (e.g., run by volunteers or other third-parties) in order to bypass censors who blacklist IP addresses.
By contrast, CacheBrowser makes use of no third-party proxies! It directly downloads censored content from CDN edge servers, therefore, offering unique security and performance advantages over regular censorship resistance systems.
What's New?
CacheBrowser is in active development mode. However, you can download the latest version of our tool and check it out. Use it at your own risk! We're still working on improving the tools' performance and security.
If you want to help us in any way let us know.
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https://www.cachebrowser.info/#/download
What is CacheBrowser?
CacheBrowser is a system designed to help Internet users bypass Internet censorship.
The core idea of CacheBrowser is to grab censored content cached by Content Delivery Networks such as Akamai and CloudFlare directly from their CDN edge servers, therefore, foiling censors' DNS interference.
To learn more about CacheBrowser's design details, properties, and limitations see our design paper published at ACM CCS 2015.... More Info »
How Are We Different?
Regular censorship resistance systems like Tor, Psiphon, Ultrasurf, and VPN systems deploy various kinds of proxy servers (e.g., run by volunteers or other third-parties) in order to bypass censors who blacklist IP addresses.
By contrast, CacheBrowser makes use of no third-party proxies! It directly downloads censored content from CDN edge servers, therefore, offering unique security and performance advantages over regular censorship resistance systems.
Which Pages Are Supported?
Unlike regular circumvention systems, CacheBrowser is not a generic circumvention system: it can only browse censored pages that are
Hosted on a shared CDN (such as Akamai, Fastly, CloudFlare, etc.)
Support HTTPS
Fortunately, many websites already satisfy both of the conditions. If you are a content publisher, you can easily make your website CacheBrowsable by hosting it on a shared CDN network (this will also improve your site's reliability, QoS, and security).
The website you are viewing right now satisfies both requirements and will always be available through CacheBrowser.
What's New?
CacheBrowser is in active development mode. However, you can download the latest version of our tool and check it out. Use it at your own risk! We're still working on improving the tools' performance and security.
If you want to help us in any way let us know.
Who Are We?
CacheBrowser has been designed and developed by the SPIN research group at UMass Amherst.
Contact amir@cs.umass.edu for questions or comments.
https://www.cachebrowser.info/#/download
12 July 2017 20:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
What is CacheBrowser?
CacheBrowser is a system designed to help Internet users bypass Internet censorship.
The core idea of CacheBrowser is to grab censored content cached by Content Delivery Networks such as Akamai and CloudFlare directly from their CDN edge servers, therefore, foiling censors' DNS interference.
To learn more about CacheBrowser's design details, properties, and limitations see our design papers published at ACM CCS 2015 and ACM CCS 2016.
How Are We Different?
Regular censorship resistance systems like Tor, Psiphon, Ultrasurf, and VPN systems deploy various kinds of proxy servers (e.g., run by volunteers or other third-parties) in order to bypass censors who blacklist IP addresses.
By contrast, CacheBrowser makes use of no third-party proxies! It directly downloads censored content from CDN edge servers, therefore, offering unique security and performance advantages over regular censorship resistance systems.
What's New?
CacheBrowser is in active development mode. However, you can download the latest version of our tool and check it out. Use it at your own risk! We're still working on improving the tools' performance and security.
If you want to help us in any way let us know.
https://www.cachebrowser.info/#/download
CacheBrowser is a system designed to help Internet users bypass Internet censorship.
The core idea of CacheBrowser is to grab censored content cached by Content Delivery Networks such as Akamai and CloudFlare directly from their CDN edge servers, therefore, foiling censors' DNS interference.
To learn more about CacheBrowser's design details, properties, and limitations see our design papers published at ACM CCS 2015 and ACM CCS 2016.
How Are We Different?
Regular censorship resistance systems like Tor, Psiphon, Ultrasurf, and VPN systems deploy various kinds of proxy servers (e.g., run by volunteers or other third-parties) in order to bypass censors who blacklist IP addresses.
By contrast, CacheBrowser makes use of no third-party proxies! It directly downloads censored content from CDN edge servers, therefore, offering unique security and performance advantages over regular censorship resistance systems.
What's New?
CacheBrowser is in active development mode. However, you can download the latest version of our tool and check it out. Use it at your own risk! We're still working on improving the tools' performance and security.
If you want to help us in any way let us know.
https://www.cachebrowser.info/#/download
https://www.cachebrowser.info/#/download
12 July 2017 20:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
StealthNet is based on the original RShare client and has been enhanced by a developer team who consists of Planet Peer community members. In comparison with the current RShare client StealthNet offers a lot of new features like download resuming (interrupted downloads can be resumed), multilanguage support, a search filter for several file types and much more.
In the early stages StealthNet was known as RShare Community Edition (RShare CE). However, due to several reasons we had to rename this project to its new name StealthNet. This is the reason why the RShare forums on the Planet Peer Board also have been renamed to RShare/StealthNet. More Info »
Both clients are open source and source code is available. They are released under the GPL.
http://www.stealthnet.de/
The RShare network as well as the network protocol were developed by Lars Regensburger with strong anonymity/security and acceptable download rates in mind. All traffic in the RShare network is routed through other nodes in the network. Furthermore, traffic is encrypted with point-to-point encryption. In combination this two techniques provide a very high level of anonymity.
If you want to learn more about RShare/StealthNet and his tech specs the Planet Peer Wiki is highly recommended:
a) RShare: http://www.planetpeer.de/wiki/index.php/RShare_%28English%29
b) StealthNet: http://www.planetpeer.de/wiki/index.php/StealthNet_%28English%29
Advantages over other anonymous P2P networks
As a matter of course StealthNet is not the only client for anonymous file sharing. There are a lot of others available, like ANts or MUTE. However, StealthNet has one important advantage: In comparison with its competitors it is under _active_ development by a developer team and feature requests from the community are incorporated.
Some more advantages are:
Straightforward handling, even for beginners: Install, enable port forwarding and you are good to go! Anonymous P2P can�t be easier
Modern and user-friendly graphical user interface (GUI): Due to a GUI similar to eMule users are able to work in no time with StealthNet
Fast file transfers: As measured by the fact that StealthNet is an anonymous P2P client it has great download rates, especially when it comes to small files (depends on several factors)
Has anti-flood-measure in place to avoid network sabotage like flooding the network with useless data packets or so
Command line client for systems with Mono support like Linux, OSX and so on is available
Why should one use StealthNet instead of eDonkey & co.?
That�s pretty simple. StealthNet was primarily developed with strong anonymity and security in mind. It offers a great level of protection which other networks lacks of. In comparion with regular P2P networks like eDonkey it is nearly impossible to locate users who provide content within the RShare network. The complete traffic within the network is encrypted by approved and popular encryption techniques and downloads are routed through several other nodes so nobody can correlate what�s going on between the nodes.
In the early stages StealthNet was known as RShare Community Edition (RShare CE). However, due to several reasons we had to rename this project to its new name StealthNet. This is the reason why the RShare forums on the Planet Peer Board also have been renamed to RShare/StealthNet. More Info »
Both clients are open source and source code is available. They are released under the GPL.
http://www.stealthnet.de/
The RShare network as well as the network protocol were developed by Lars Regensburger with strong anonymity/security and acceptable download rates in mind. All traffic in the RShare network is routed through other nodes in the network. Furthermore, traffic is encrypted with point-to-point encryption. In combination this two techniques provide a very high level of anonymity.
If you want to learn more about RShare/StealthNet and his tech specs the Planet Peer Wiki is highly recommended:
a) RShare: http://www.planetpeer.de/wiki/index.php/RShare_%28English%29
b) StealthNet: http://www.planetpeer.de/wiki/index.php/StealthNet_%28English%29
Advantages over other anonymous P2P networks
As a matter of course StealthNet is not the only client for anonymous file sharing. There are a lot of others available, like ANts or MUTE. However, StealthNet has one important advantage: In comparison with its competitors it is under _active_ development by a developer team and feature requests from the community are incorporated.
Some more advantages are:
Straightforward handling, even for beginners: Install, enable port forwarding and you are good to go! Anonymous P2P can�t be easier
Modern and user-friendly graphical user interface (GUI): Due to a GUI similar to eMule users are able to work in no time with StealthNet
Fast file transfers: As measured by the fact that StealthNet is an anonymous P2P client it has great download rates, especially when it comes to small files (depends on several factors)
Has anti-flood-measure in place to avoid network sabotage like flooding the network with useless data packets or so
Command line client for systems with Mono support like Linux, OSX and so on is available
Why should one use StealthNet instead of eDonkey & co.?
That�s pretty simple. StealthNet was primarily developed with strong anonymity and security in mind. It offers a great level of protection which other networks lacks of. In comparion with regular P2P networks like eDonkey it is nearly impossible to locate users who provide content within the RShare network. The complete traffic within the network is encrypted by approved and popular encryption techniques and downloads are routed through several other nodes so nobody can correlate what�s going on between the nodes.
http://www.stealthnet.de/
12 July 2017 19:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Bitmask is an open source application to provide easy and secure encrypted communication. You can choose among several different service providers or start your own. Currently, Bitmask supports encrypted internet (VPN) and encrypted email.
With Bitmask VPN, all your traffic is securely routed through your provider before it is decrypted and sent on to the open internet.
https://bitmask.net/en#providers
demo.bitmask.net
mail.bitmask.net
calyx.net
codigosur.org
riseup.net
oblivia.vc
With Bitmask VPN, all your traffic is securely routed through your provider before it is decrypted and sent on to the open internet.
https://bitmask.net/en#providers
demo.bitmask.net
mail.bitmask.net
calyx.net
codigosur.org
riseup.net
oblivia.vc
https://bitmask.net/en#providers
12 July 2017 19:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
LEAP Encryption Access Project
LEAP is a dedicated to giving all internet users access to secure communication. Our focus is on adapting encryption technology to make it easy to use and widely available. Like free speech, the right to whisper is an necessary precondition for a free society. Without it, civil society and political freedom become impossible. As the importance of digital communication for civic participation increases, so does the importance of the ability to digitally whisper. LEAP is devoted to making the ability to whisper available to all internet users.
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LEAP Platform for Service Providers
The LEAP Platform is set of complementary packages and server recipes to automate the maintenance of LEAP services in a hardened Debian environment.
Its goal is to make it as painless as possible for sysadmins to deploy and maintain a service provider’s infrastructure for secure communication.
REQUIREMENTS – Before you begin, make sure you meet these requirements:
Debian Servers: Servers that you deploy to must be running Debian Jessie, and no other distribution or version.
Real or Paravirtualized Servers: Servers must be real machines or paravirtualized VMs (e.g. KVM, Xen, OpenStack, AWS, Google Compute). OS level virtualization is not supported (e.g. OpenVZ, Linux-VServer, etc), nor are system emulators (VirtualBox, QEMU, etc).
Your Workstation: You must have a Linux or Mac computer to deploy from (this can be a headless machine with no GUI). Windows is not supported (Cygwin would probably work, but is untested).
Your Own Domain: You must own a domain name. Before your provider can be put into production, you will need to make modifications to the DNS for the provider’s domain.
https://leap.se/en/docs/platform
LEAP is a dedicated to giving all internet users access to secure communication. Our focus is on adapting encryption technology to make it easy to use and widely available. Like free speech, the right to whisper is an necessary precondition for a free society. Without it, civil society and political freedom become impossible. As the importance of digital communication for civic participation increases, so does the importance of the ability to digitally whisper. LEAP is devoted to making the ability to whisper available to all internet users.
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LEAP Platform for Service Providers
The LEAP Platform is set of complementary packages and server recipes to automate the maintenance of LEAP services in a hardened Debian environment.
Its goal is to make it as painless as possible for sysadmins to deploy and maintain a service provider’s infrastructure for secure communication.
REQUIREMENTS – Before you begin, make sure you meet these requirements:
Debian Servers: Servers that you deploy to must be running Debian Jessie, and no other distribution or version.
Real or Paravirtualized Servers: Servers must be real machines or paravirtualized VMs (e.g. KVM, Xen, OpenStack, AWS, Google Compute). OS level virtualization is not supported (e.g. OpenVZ, Linux-VServer, etc), nor are system emulators (VirtualBox, QEMU, etc).
Your Workstation: You must have a Linux or Mac computer to deploy from (this can be a headless machine with no GUI). Windows is not supported (Cygwin would probably work, but is untested).
Your Own Domain: You must own a domain name. Before your provider can be put into production, you will need to make modifications to the DNS for the provider’s domain.
https://leap.se/en/docs/platform
12 July 2017 19:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
More offers, to compare in future:
3 locations best effort
bandwidth 2 GB data transfer
limited protocol support
1 simultaneous connection
"We hide your identity, your location and IP address - all behind multiple layers of encryption, with no logs, no data trail…and no proof!
HIDE.me represents a new generation in privacy and VPN providers. We've learned from other providers' mistakes and failures. We only work with the best in cutting edge software and hardware technology. If the software we need doesn't exist, we write it. If the hardware doesn't exist, we build it. More Info »
We spent our careers building and operating secure infrastructure for governments and corporations. This has given us a deep understanding of the weaknesses in online communications.This knowledge, and our belief in the importance of personal privacy, inspired us to create the ultimate in high-bandwidth privacy and online protection services.
"
https://hide.me/en/software
https://hide.me/en/proxy
________
3 locations best effort
bandwidth 2 GB data transfer
limited protocol support
1 simultaneous connection
"We hide your identity, your location and IP address - all behind multiple layers of encryption, with no logs, no data trail…and no proof!
HIDE.me represents a new generation in privacy and VPN providers. We've learned from other providers' mistakes and failures. We only work with the best in cutting edge software and hardware technology. If the software we need doesn't exist, we write it. If the hardware doesn't exist, we build it. More Info »
We spent our careers building and operating secure infrastructure for governments and corporations. This has given us a deep understanding of the weaknesses in online communications.This knowledge, and our belief in the importance of personal privacy, inspired us to create the ultimate in high-bandwidth privacy and online protection services.
"
https://hide.me/en/software
https://hide.me/en/proxy
________
https://hide.me/en/software
12 July 2017 19:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Your private path to access network
resources and services securely
Deploy OpenVPN Solution on Amazon Cloud
Secure and Protect your Path across the Internet
Deploy Software VPN Solution for your Business
OpenVPN Community Development Project
https://openvpn.net/
https://www.privatetunnel.com/home/
resources and services securely
Deploy OpenVPN Solution on Amazon Cloud
Secure and Protect your Path across the Internet
Deploy Software VPN Solution for your Business
OpenVPN Community Development Project
https://openvpn.net/
https://www.privatetunnel.com/home/
https://openvpn.net/
12 July 2017 19:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tails is a live operating system that you can start on almost any computer from a DVD, USB stick, or SD card.
It aims at preserving your privacy and anonymity, and helps you to:
use the Internet anonymously and circumvent censorship;
all connections to the Internet are forced to go through the Tor network;
leave no trace on the computer you are using unless you ask it explicitly;
use state-of-the-art cryptographic tools to encrypt your files, emails and instant messaging.
https://tails.boum.org/
It aims at preserving your privacy and anonymity, and helps you to:
use the Internet anonymously and circumvent censorship;
all connections to the Internet are forced to go through the Tor network;
leave no trace on the computer you are using unless you ask it explicitly;
use state-of-the-art cryptographic tools to encrypt your files, emails and instant messaging.
https://tails.boum.org/
https://tails.boum.org/
12 July 2017 19:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"OnionCat creates a transparent IPv6 layer on top of TOR's hidden services. It allows users to anonymously access Internet services. It transmits any kind of IPv6-based data transparently through the TOR network on a location hidden basis. You can think of it as a point-to-multipoint VPN between hidden services. OnionCat is a stand-alone application which runs in userland and is a connector between TOR and the local OS. Any protocol which is based on IPv6 can be transmitted. Of course, UDP6 and TCP6 (and probably ICMP6) are the most important ones but all other protocols can also be forwarded through it. OnionCat's main purpose is to allow any user an easy use of hidden services and to allow hidden service providers to provide any type of service.... More Info »
Because OnionCat is IPv6-transparent the client applications may not be configured in any special way (SOCKSifying) because to every hidden service a unique IPv6 address is assigned by OnionCat. It creates an Internet within the Internet with the major advantage of being location hidden! This task is accomplished by resolving an IPv6 address to an .onion URL and then opening a connection to the desired hidden service. OnionCat creates the major advantage of using TOR's hidden services like usual IP hosts on the Internet.
You can provide and use any service you could provide on the Internet, SMTP, DNS, HTTP, Torrent, whatever. It's end-to-end encrypted. Its architecture guarantees that the real IP of users cannot be revealed in any way. Together with OnionCat an "Internet within the Internet" could evolve.
https://www.onioncat.org/
https://www.onioncat.org/2015/12/evading-firewalls-with-onioncat/
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Because OnionCat is IPv6-transparent the client applications may not be configured in any special way (SOCKSifying) because to every hidden service a unique IPv6 address is assigned by OnionCat. It creates an Internet within the Internet with the major advantage of being location hidden! This task is accomplished by resolving an IPv6 address to an .onion URL and then opening a connection to the desired hidden service. OnionCat creates the major advantage of using TOR's hidden services like usual IP hosts on the Internet.
You can provide and use any service you could provide on the Internet, SMTP, DNS, HTTP, Torrent, whatever. It's end-to-end encrypted. Its architecture guarantees that the real IP of users cannot be revealed in any way. Together with OnionCat an "Internet within the Internet" could evolve.
https://www.onioncat.org/
https://www.onioncat.org/2015/12/evading-firewalls-with-onioncat/
"
https://www.onioncat.org/
12 July 2017 19:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(these kind of small offers i do not like to advertise usually, but hey, this time..)
SurfEasy VPN encrypts all Internet traffic to protect your online privacy. Get the best free VPN for Android, iOS, Mac and Windows.
For free:
5 devices
500MB free data
Tracker blocking
500 ultra fast servers in 28 countries (and increasing)
With servers in 28 countries and counting, we give you both privacy and access to regional content. See a list of all our regions here.
https://www.surfeasy.com/features/
SurfEasy VPN encrypts all Internet traffic to protect your online privacy. Get the best free VPN for Android, iOS, Mac and Windows.
For free:
5 devices
500MB free data
Tracker blocking
500 ultra fast servers in 28 countries (and increasing)
With servers in 28 countries and counting, we give you both privacy and access to regional content. See a list of all our regions here.
https://www.surfeasy.com/features/
12 July 2017 19:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Browsec encrypts your traffic and routes it through our secure cloud network. No one will be able to identify, track you or sniff your traffic.
- Visit Facebook and twitter from work, read whatever you want.
- Privacy. Hide your real location from the sites you visit.
- Netflix, Hulu, Spotify, Pandora, SoundCloud and so on — music and video services restricted to a few countries are now accessible to you too.
https://browsec.com/en/#
- Visit Facebook and twitter from work, read whatever you want.
- Privacy. Hide your real location from the sites you visit.
- Netflix, Hulu, Spotify, Pandora, SoundCloud and so on — music and video services restricted to a few countries are now accessible to you too.
https://browsec.com/en/#
https://browsec.com/en/
12 July 2017 19:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So, WTF is it?
Netsukuku is an open mathematical problem whose solution consists in finding a scheme of dynamic compact routing.
Currently there is wide number of protocols and algorithms for dynamic routing, but they differ from Netsukuku because they are solely utilized to create small and medium nets. The routers of Internet are also managed by different protocols as the OSPF, the RIP, or the BGP, based on different classical algorithms, able to find out the best path to reach a node in the net.
These protocols require a very high waste of cpu and memory, this is the reason why the Internet routers are computers specifically dedicated to this purpose. It would be impossible to implement one these protocols in order to create and maintain such a net as Netsukuku is, where every each node is a router by itself, because the map of all the routes would require a space, on each pc connected to the net, of about 10GB.
Netsukuku structures the entire net as a fractal and, in order to calculate all the needed routes which are necessary to connect a node to all the other nodes, it makes use of a particular algorithm called Quantum Shortest Path Netsukuku (QSPN).
A fractal is a mathematical structure which can be compressed up to the infinite, because inside it, every part itself is composed by the same fractal. Thus there is a high compression of a structure which can be infinitely expanded. This means that we need just a few Kb to keep the whole Netsukuku map.
The map structure of Netsukuku can be also defined more precisely by calling it a highly clusterised graph of nodes for which is not always true that a determinated pkt will be sent before another one.
The history of Netsukuku
Netsukuku was born at the beginning of the millennium and its history is rather complex.
In one of the possible worlds and dimensions, the digital, a tribe of south Italian hackers met.
Year 2000, during an on-air session of radio Cybernet at the Hackmeeting in Rome: the idea of Ipv7 nocoder nocrypt came to life. It was a transmission full of absurd geek jokes about IP protocols, intelligent compilers and cryptographic algorithms.
Later in 2003 a crew of young mad scientists in the Freaknet Medialab inspired by the visions of Crash continued to expand the concepts of Ipv7, remembering the fun they had. This time the imaginific jokes followed describing a network in which all the packets are sent to broadcast and compressed with "zlib7": an algorithm which could compress all the existent Internet into just 32 byte. Today, Some people still call him Crash.
In Ipv7 the nodes were devoid of an ip address, it was an extremely decentralised and totally free net. Those people were really happy after the first draft of such a crazy RFC.
After this episode the project has been resting in the infinite folds of time and possible codes to be written. Yet some years later someone punched a lot of code and documentation on his keyboard. Alpt, who had participated to these visionary sessions, developed and researched algorithms, wrote the RFCs and the first Netsukuku implementation in C.
Alpt called it the implementation of a pure network. Month by month this idea of a network became refined, and the project became something concrete.
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Three febrile months passed by and after many mystical meditations, the theoretical kernel was ready. The algorithms were defined and the programmers started to write code, tormented by delirant visions inducted by the act of creation of a protocol for pure networks. Purity is a fool's mirage! In spite of all, exactly after one year and after fourteen thousand lines of code, the first C implementation of Netsukuku was ready and immediately presented at the Hackmeeting 2005 in Naples.
On the wave of enthusiasm the code grew to more than forty thousand lines of code as more people have joined to develop Netsukuku and much has been going on. Eriol, jnz, Lukisi (who is now writing the Vala implementation), Efphe, Entropika and others contributed.
The C code got to a good shape. But the sad thing about programmers is: they want to rewrite everything in another language. Its really their perversion :^) the Netsukuku rewrite in Python was never really finished.
However in May 2006 the ANDNA protocol was implemented in C and documented in a RFC.
In October that year the first public version of Netsukuku was released and was included ready to use inside the Dyne:bolic GNU/Linux distribution, a liveCD that was distributed on computer and game magazines around the world.
After many years, in 2010, Lukisi started reimplementing Netsukuku, while Alpt decided to continue into the direction of a deeper mathematical research on the principles behind the realization of a truly decentralized dynamic compact routing algorithm.
((( .... to be continued ... )))
http://netsukuku.freaknet.org/communities.html
Netsukuku is an open mathematical problem whose solution consists in finding a scheme of dynamic compact routing.
Currently there is wide number of protocols and algorithms for dynamic routing, but they differ from Netsukuku because they are solely utilized to create small and medium nets. The routers of Internet are also managed by different protocols as the OSPF, the RIP, or the BGP, based on different classical algorithms, able to find out the best path to reach a node in the net.
These protocols require a very high waste of cpu and memory, this is the reason why the Internet routers are computers specifically dedicated to this purpose. It would be impossible to implement one these protocols in order to create and maintain such a net as Netsukuku is, where every each node is a router by itself, because the map of all the routes would require a space, on each pc connected to the net, of about 10GB.
Netsukuku structures the entire net as a fractal and, in order to calculate all the needed routes which are necessary to connect a node to all the other nodes, it makes use of a particular algorithm called Quantum Shortest Path Netsukuku (QSPN).
A fractal is a mathematical structure which can be compressed up to the infinite, because inside it, every part itself is composed by the same fractal. Thus there is a high compression of a structure which can be infinitely expanded. This means that we need just a few Kb to keep the whole Netsukuku map.
The map structure of Netsukuku can be also defined more precisely by calling it a highly clusterised graph of nodes for which is not always true that a determinated pkt will be sent before another one.
The history of Netsukuku
Netsukuku was born at the beginning of the millennium and its history is rather complex.
In one of the possible worlds and dimensions, the digital, a tribe of south Italian hackers met.
Year 2000, during an on-air session of radio Cybernet at the Hackmeeting in Rome: the idea of Ipv7 nocoder nocrypt came to life. It was a transmission full of absurd geek jokes about IP protocols, intelligent compilers and cryptographic algorithms.
Later in 2003 a crew of young mad scientists in the Freaknet Medialab inspired by the visions of Crash continued to expand the concepts of Ipv7, remembering the fun they had. This time the imaginific jokes followed describing a network in which all the packets are sent to broadcast and compressed with "zlib7": an algorithm which could compress all the existent Internet into just 32 byte. Today, Some people still call him Crash.
In Ipv7 the nodes were devoid of an ip address, it was an extremely decentralised and totally free net. Those people were really happy after the first draft of such a crazy RFC.
After this episode the project has been resting in the infinite folds of time and possible codes to be written. Yet some years later someone punched a lot of code and documentation on his keyboard. Alpt, who had participated to these visionary sessions, developed and researched algorithms, wrote the RFCs and the first Netsukuku implementation in C.
Alpt called it the implementation of a pure network. Month by month this idea of a network became refined, and the project became something concrete.
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Three febrile months passed by and after many mystical meditations, the theoretical kernel was ready. The algorithms were defined and the programmers started to write code, tormented by delirant visions inducted by the act of creation of a protocol for pure networks. Purity is a fool's mirage! In spite of all, exactly after one year and after fourteen thousand lines of code, the first C implementation of Netsukuku was ready and immediately presented at the Hackmeeting 2005 in Naples.
On the wave of enthusiasm the code grew to more than forty thousand lines of code as more people have joined to develop Netsukuku and much has been going on. Eriol, jnz, Lukisi (who is now writing the Vala implementation), Efphe, Entropika and others contributed.
The C code got to a good shape. But the sad thing about programmers is: they want to rewrite everything in another language. Its really their perversion :^) the Netsukuku rewrite in Python was never really finished.
However in May 2006 the ANDNA protocol was implemented in C and documented in a RFC.
In October that year the first public version of Netsukuku was released and was included ready to use inside the Dyne:bolic GNU/Linux distribution, a liveCD that was distributed on computer and game magazines around the world.
After many years, in 2010, Lukisi started reimplementing Netsukuku, while Alpt decided to continue into the direction of a deeper mathematical research on the principles behind the realization of a truly decentralized dynamic compact routing algorithm.
((( .... to be continued ... )))
http://netsukuku.freaknet.org/communities.html
http://netsukuku.freaknet.org/communities.html
12 July 2017 19:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Other related and ... network soft:
"Mesh routing protocol designed to handle a massive amount of nodes with very low resource consumption. Thanks to this feature it can be easily used to build a worldwide distributed, anonymous and uncontrolled network, separated from the Internet, without the support of any servers, ISPs or authority controls."
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The Netsukuku Wired
Netsukuku aims to be a mesh network or a peer to peer protocol that generates and sustains itself autonomously. It is designed to handle an unlimited number of nodes with minimal CPU and memory resources. Thanks to this feature it can be easily used to build a worldwide distributed, anonymous and uncontrolled network, separated from the Internet, without the support of any servers, ISPs or authority controls.
Such a net is composed by computers linked physically each other, therefore it isn't build upon any existing network. Netsukuku builds only the routes which connects all the computers of the net. In other words, Netsukuku replaces the level 3 of the ISO/OSI model with another routing protocol.
Being Netsukuku a distributed and decentralised net, it is possible to implement real distributed systems on it, e.g. the Abnormal Netsukuku Domain Name Anarchy (ANDNA) which replaces the actual hierarchic and centralized system of DNS.
The Old Wired
The Internet is a hierarchic network managed by multinational companies and organizations supported by governments. Each bit of Internet traffic passes through proprietary backbones and routers. The Internet Service Providers give the connectivity to all the users, who are in the lowest rank of this hierarchic pyramid. There is no way to share the ownership of Internet and people can join the Net only in accordance with conditions and terms imposed by the Majors. The Internet represents, today, the means to access information, knowledge and communication. About 1 billion of people can connect to this great proprietary network, but the remaining 5 billion of people, which don't have enough economic resource, are still waiting the multinationals to supply a service with in their reach.
The Internet was born with the intent of warranting a secure and unattackable communication between the various nodes of the network, but now, paradoxally, when an ISP decide to stop to provide its service, entire nations are immediately cut out of the Internet.
Beside that, Internet is not anonymous: the ISP and the multinationals can trace back and analyse the traffic of data going through their servers, without any limits.
The centralised and hierarchical structure of Internet creates, as a consequence, other identical systems, based on it, i.e. the DNS. The servers of the Domain Name System are managed by different ISPs, as well and the domains are literally sold through a similar centralised system. This kind of structures allows, in a very simple and efficient way, to physically localise any computers, which are connected to the Internet, in a very short time and without any particular efforts.
As long as all the efforts to bring more freedom, privacy and accessibility in the Internet face aversions, fears, contrary interests of governments and private companies, the very alternative solution to this problem is to let the users migrate toward a distributed, decentralised and fully efficient net, in which all the users interact at the same level, with no privilege and no conditioning means, as authentic citizens of a free world wide community.
Features in Netsukuku
Gandhi
Netsukuku is self-managed. It generates itself and can stand alone. As a node hooks to Netsukuku, the net automatically rewrites itself and all the other nodes known which are the fastest and more efficient routes to communicate with the new arrived. The nodes don't have privileges or limitations, when compared with other nodes, they are part of the net and give their contribution to its expansion and efficiency. The more they increase in number the more the net grows and becomes efficient. In Netsukuku there isn't any differences among private and public nets and talking about "local networks" becomes meaningless.
It can be neither controlled nor destroyed because it is totally decentralised and distributed. The only way to control or demolish Netsukuku is knocking physically down each single node which is part of it.
No name, no identity
Inside Netsukuku everyone, in any place, at any moment, can hook immediately to the net without coming trough any bureaucratic or legal compliance. Moreover, every elements of the net is extremely dynamic and it's never the same. The ip address which identify a computer is chosen randomly, therefore it's impossible to associate it to a particular physical place, and the routes themselves, been composed by a huge number of node, show the tendence to have such a high complexity and density to make the trace of a node a titanic task.
Since there isn't any contract with any organisations, the speed of the data transfer is uniquely limited by the actual tecnology of the network cards.
http://netsukuku.freaknet.org/documentation.html
"Mesh routing protocol designed to handle a massive amount of nodes with very low resource consumption. Thanks to this feature it can be easily used to build a worldwide distributed, anonymous and uncontrolled network, separated from the Internet, without the support of any servers, ISPs or authority controls."
--
The Netsukuku Wired
Netsukuku aims to be a mesh network or a peer to peer protocol that generates and sustains itself autonomously. It is designed to handle an unlimited number of nodes with minimal CPU and memory resources. Thanks to this feature it can be easily used to build a worldwide distributed, anonymous and uncontrolled network, separated from the Internet, without the support of any servers, ISPs or authority controls.
Such a net is composed by computers linked physically each other, therefore it isn't build upon any existing network. Netsukuku builds only the routes which connects all the computers of the net. In other words, Netsukuku replaces the level 3 of the ISO/OSI model with another routing protocol.
Being Netsukuku a distributed and decentralised net, it is possible to implement real distributed systems on it, e.g. the Abnormal Netsukuku Domain Name Anarchy (ANDNA) which replaces the actual hierarchic and centralized system of DNS.
The Old Wired
The Internet is a hierarchic network managed by multinational companies and organizations supported by governments. Each bit of Internet traffic passes through proprietary backbones and routers. The Internet Service Providers give the connectivity to all the users, who are in the lowest rank of this hierarchic pyramid. There is no way to share the ownership of Internet and people can join the Net only in accordance with conditions and terms imposed by the Majors. The Internet represents, today, the means to access information, knowledge and communication. About 1 billion of people can connect to this great proprietary network, but the remaining 5 billion of people, which don't have enough economic resource, are still waiting the multinationals to supply a service with in their reach.
The Internet was born with the intent of warranting a secure and unattackable communication between the various nodes of the network, but now, paradoxally, when an ISP decide to stop to provide its service, entire nations are immediately cut out of the Internet.
Beside that, Internet is not anonymous: the ISP and the multinationals can trace back and analyse the traffic of data going through their servers, without any limits.
The centralised and hierarchical structure of Internet creates, as a consequence, other identical systems, based on it, i.e. the DNS. The servers of the Domain Name System are managed by different ISPs, as well and the domains are literally sold through a similar centralised system. This kind of structures allows, in a very simple and efficient way, to physically localise any computers, which are connected to the Internet, in a very short time and without any particular efforts.
As long as all the efforts to bring more freedom, privacy and accessibility in the Internet face aversions, fears, contrary interests of governments and private companies, the very alternative solution to this problem is to let the users migrate toward a distributed, decentralised and fully efficient net, in which all the users interact at the same level, with no privilege and no conditioning means, as authentic citizens of a free world wide community.
Features in Netsukuku
Gandhi
Netsukuku is self-managed. It generates itself and can stand alone. As a node hooks to Netsukuku, the net automatically rewrites itself and all the other nodes known which are the fastest and more efficient routes to communicate with the new arrived. The nodes don't have privileges or limitations, when compared with other nodes, they are part of the net and give their contribution to its expansion and efficiency. The more they increase in number the more the net grows and becomes efficient. In Netsukuku there isn't any differences among private and public nets and talking about "local networks" becomes meaningless.
It can be neither controlled nor destroyed because it is totally decentralised and distributed. The only way to control or demolish Netsukuku is knocking physically down each single node which is part of it.
No name, no identity
Inside Netsukuku everyone, in any place, at any moment, can hook immediately to the net without coming trough any bureaucratic or legal compliance. Moreover, every elements of the net is extremely dynamic and it's never the same. The ip address which identify a computer is chosen randomly, therefore it's impossible to associate it to a particular physical place, and the routes themselves, been composed by a huge number of node, show the tendence to have such a high complexity and density to make the trace of a node a titanic task.
Since there isn't any contract with any organisations, the speed of the data transfer is uniquely limited by the actual tecnology of the network cards.
http://netsukuku.freaknet.org/documentation.html
12 July 2017 19:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
VPN Gate is an extended plug-in for SoftEther VPN Software
SoftEther VPN Project develops and distributes SoftEther VPN,
An Open-Source Free Cross-platform Multi-protocol VPN Program,
as an academic project from University of Tsukuba
SoftEther VPN ("SoftEther" means "Software Ethernet") is one of the world's most powerful and easy-to-use multi-protocol VPN software. It runs on Windows, Linux, Mac, FreeBSD and Solaris.
SoftEther VPN is open source. You can use SoftEther for any personal or commercial use for free charge.
SoftEther VPN is an optimum alternative to OpenVPN and Microsoft's VPN servers. SoftEther VPN has a clone-function of OpenVPN Server. You can integrate from OpenVPN to SoftEther VPN smoothly. SoftEther VPN is faster than OpenVPN. SoftEther VPN also supports Microsoft SSTP VPN for Windows Vista / 7 / 8. No more need to pay expensive charges for Windows Server license for Remote-Access VPN function.
SoftEther VPN can be used to realize BYOD (Bring your own device) on your business. If you have smartphones, tablets or laptop PCs, SoftEther VPN's L2TP/IPsec server function will help you to establish a remote-access VPN from your local network. SoftEther VPN's L2TP VPN Server has strong compatible with Windows, Mac, iOS and Android.
1.0_vpnserver.jpgSoftEther VPN is not only an alternative VPN server to existing VPN products (OpenVPN, IPsec and MS-SSTP). SoftEther VPN has also original strong SSL-VPN protocol to penetrate any kinds of firewalls. Ultra-optimized SSL-VPN Protocol of SoftEther VPN has very fast throughput, low latency and firewall resistance.
SoftEther VPN has strong resistance against firewalls than ever. Built-in NAT-traversal penetrates your network admin's troublesome firewall for overprotection. You can setup your own VPN server behind the firewall or NAT in your company, and you can reach to that VPN server in the corporate private network from your home or mobile place, without any modification of firewall settings. Any deep-packet inspection firewalls cannot detect SoftEther VPN's transport packets as a VPN tunnel, because SoftEther VPN uses Ethernet over HTTPS for camouflage.
1.0_vpnclient2.jpgEasy to imagine, design and implement your VPN topology with SoftEther VPN. It virtualizes Ethernet by software-enumeration. SoftEther VPN Client implements Virtual Network Adapter, and SoftEther VPN Server implements Virtual Ethernet Switch. You can easily build both Remote-Access VPN and Site-to-Site VPN, as expansion of Ethernet-based L2 VPN. Of course, traditional IP-routing L3 based VPN can be built by SoftEther VPN.
iphone.jpgSoftEther VPN has strong compatibility to today's most popular VPN products among the world. It has the interoperability with OpenVPN, L2TP, IPsec, EtherIP, L2TPv3, Cisco VPN Routers and MS-SSTP VPN Clients. SoftEther VPN is the world's only VPN software which supports SSL-VPN, OpenVPN, L2TP, EtherIP, L2TPv3 and IPsec, as a single VPN software.
SoftEther VPN is free software because it was developed as Daiyuu Nobori's Master Thesis research in the University. You can download and use it from today. The source-code of SoftEther VPN is available under GPL license.
http://www.softether.org/
SoftEther VPN Project develops and distributes SoftEther VPN,
An Open-Source Free Cross-platform Multi-protocol VPN Program,
as an academic project from University of Tsukuba
SoftEther VPN ("SoftEther" means "Software Ethernet") is one of the world's most powerful and easy-to-use multi-protocol VPN software. It runs on Windows, Linux, Mac, FreeBSD and Solaris.
SoftEther VPN is open source. You can use SoftEther for any personal or commercial use for free charge.
SoftEther VPN is an optimum alternative to OpenVPN and Microsoft's VPN servers. SoftEther VPN has a clone-function of OpenVPN Server. You can integrate from OpenVPN to SoftEther VPN smoothly. SoftEther VPN is faster than OpenVPN. SoftEther VPN also supports Microsoft SSTP VPN for Windows Vista / 7 / 8. No more need to pay expensive charges for Windows Server license for Remote-Access VPN function.
SoftEther VPN can be used to realize BYOD (Bring your own device) on your business. If you have smartphones, tablets or laptop PCs, SoftEther VPN's L2TP/IPsec server function will help you to establish a remote-access VPN from your local network. SoftEther VPN's L2TP VPN Server has strong compatible with Windows, Mac, iOS and Android.
1.0_vpnserver.jpgSoftEther VPN is not only an alternative VPN server to existing VPN products (OpenVPN, IPsec and MS-SSTP). SoftEther VPN has also original strong SSL-VPN protocol to penetrate any kinds of firewalls. Ultra-optimized SSL-VPN Protocol of SoftEther VPN has very fast throughput, low latency and firewall resistance.
SoftEther VPN has strong resistance against firewalls than ever. Built-in NAT-traversal penetrates your network admin's troublesome firewall for overprotection. You can setup your own VPN server behind the firewall or NAT in your company, and you can reach to that VPN server in the corporate private network from your home or mobile place, without any modification of firewall settings. Any deep-packet inspection firewalls cannot detect SoftEther VPN's transport packets as a VPN tunnel, because SoftEther VPN uses Ethernet over HTTPS for camouflage.
1.0_vpnclient2.jpgEasy to imagine, design and implement your VPN topology with SoftEther VPN. It virtualizes Ethernet by software-enumeration. SoftEther VPN Client implements Virtual Network Adapter, and SoftEther VPN Server implements Virtual Ethernet Switch. You can easily build both Remote-Access VPN and Site-to-Site VPN, as expansion of Ethernet-based L2 VPN. Of course, traditional IP-routing L3 based VPN can be built by SoftEther VPN.
iphone.jpgSoftEther VPN has strong compatibility to today's most popular VPN products among the world. It has the interoperability with OpenVPN, L2TP, IPsec, EtherIP, L2TPv3, Cisco VPN Routers and MS-SSTP VPN Clients. SoftEther VPN is the world's only VPN software which supports SSL-VPN, OpenVPN, L2TP, EtherIP, L2TPv3 and IPsec, as a single VPN software.
SoftEther VPN is free software because it was developed as Daiyuu Nobori's Master Thesis research in the University. You can download and use it from today. The source-code of SoftEther VPN is available under GPL license.
http://www.softether.org/
http://www.softether.org/
12 July 2017 19:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Free VPN's
VPN Gate Academic Experiment Project is an online service
as an academic research at the Graduate School of University of Tsukuba, Japan.
The purpose of this research is to expand the knowledge of
"Global Distributed Public VPN Relay Servers".
You can get through the government's firewall to browse restricted web sites (e.g. YouTube).
You can disguise your IP address to hide your identity while surfing the Internet.
You can protect yourself by utilizing its strong encryption while using public Wi-Fi.
Unlike traditional VPN services, VPN Gate can get through most firewalls.
VPN Gate is free of charge. Not a single registration is required
http://www.vpngate.net/en/
http://www.vpngate.net/en/about_overview.aspx
VPN Gate network consists of many VPN servers, which are provided by volunteers around the world.
You can provide your own computer as a VPN server to join this experiment.
Windows, Mac, iPhone, iPad and Android are supported.
Supports SSL-VPN (SoftEther VPN) protocol, L2TP/IPsec protocol, OpenVPN protocol and Microsoft SSTP protocol.
Anonymous connections are accepted.
No user registrations are required.
Each VPN server has a dynamic IP address. Therefore it may change at random period.
VPN servers appear and disappear at any time. Therefore, an IP address may not always connect to a VPN server.
All VPN servers are capable of routing your traffic to the Internet, so you can disguise your real IP address.
Using a server located somewhere other than your region may provide you some more accessible websites, because the comminucation would look as if it is originated from the country the VPN server resides.
VPN Gate Academic Experiment Project is an online service
as an academic research at the Graduate School of University of Tsukuba, Japan.
The purpose of this research is to expand the knowledge of
"Global Distributed Public VPN Relay Servers".
You can get through the government's firewall to browse restricted web sites (e.g. YouTube).
You can disguise your IP address to hide your identity while surfing the Internet.
You can protect yourself by utilizing its strong encryption while using public Wi-Fi.
Unlike traditional VPN services, VPN Gate can get through most firewalls.
VPN Gate is free of charge. Not a single registration is required
http://www.vpngate.net/en/
http://www.vpngate.net/en/about_overview.aspx
VPN Gate network consists of many VPN servers, which are provided by volunteers around the world.
You can provide your own computer as a VPN server to join this experiment.
Windows, Mac, iPhone, iPad and Android are supported.
Supports SSL-VPN (SoftEther VPN) protocol, L2TP/IPsec protocol, OpenVPN protocol and Microsoft SSTP protocol.
Anonymous connections are accepted.
No user registrations are required.
Each VPN server has a dynamic IP address. Therefore it may change at random period.
VPN servers appear and disappear at any time. Therefore, an IP address may not always connect to a VPN server.
All VPN servers are capable of routing your traffic to the Internet, so you can disguise your real IP address.
Using a server located somewhere other than your region may provide you some more accessible websites, because the comminucation would look as if it is originated from the country the VPN server resides.
http://www.vpngate.net/en/
12 July 2017 19:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://demonsaw.com/ (windows, rasperry, mac, android)
Chat, message, and share files without fear or consequence.
Host your own private routers or join public networks
Demonsaw is a new type of information sharing application that allows you to share your files securely. It's the next leap in the evolution of a free Internet, and the debut of social cryptography. Demonsaw is designed to protect your anonymity and hide what you're sharing. Your IP address is never revealed to the world. Share whatever you want, with whomever you want, without fear.
Every information sharing application over the past 45+ years has had 3 common elements: the ability to upload/download files, the ability to control program flow, and the ability to transfer data. Demonsaw is different from other information sharing applications because it breaks up these different types of abilities into separate network components that act autonomously. By doing this demonsaw creates an extra layer of abstraction that completely secures your information sharing.... More Info »
Demonsaw is a type of decentralized private cloud network. It takes the best features from centralized applications, like Dropbox, and decentralized applications, like BitTorrent, and merges them into a seamless new type of hybrid information sharing application. By levering your home Internet access, you become your own secure information sharing network.
"
Chat, message, and share files without fear or consequence.
Host your own private routers or join public networks
Demonsaw is a new type of information sharing application that allows you to share your files securely. It's the next leap in the evolution of a free Internet, and the debut of social cryptography. Demonsaw is designed to protect your anonymity and hide what you're sharing. Your IP address is never revealed to the world. Share whatever you want, with whomever you want, without fear.
Every information sharing application over the past 45+ years has had 3 common elements: the ability to upload/download files, the ability to control program flow, and the ability to transfer data. Demonsaw is different from other information sharing applications because it breaks up these different types of abilities into separate network components that act autonomously. By doing this demonsaw creates an extra layer of abstraction that completely secures your information sharing.... More Info »
Demonsaw is a type of decentralized private cloud network. It takes the best features from centralized applications, like Dropbox, and decentralized applications, like BitTorrent, and merges them into a seamless new type of hybrid information sharing application. By levering your home Internet access, you become your own secure information sharing network.
"
https://demonsaw.com/
12 July 2017 19:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
A Google Chromium variant for removing Google integration and enhancing privacy, control, and transparency
A number of features or background services communicate with Google servers despite the absence of an associated Google account or compiled-in Google API keys. Furthermore, the normal build process for Chromium involves running Google's own high-level commands that invoke many scripts and utilities, some of which download and use pre-built binaries provided by Google. Even the final build output includes some pre-built binaries. Fortunately, the source code is available for everything.... More Info »
ungoogled-chromium is a set of configuration flags, patches, and custom scripts. These components altogether strive to accomplish the following:
- Disable or remove offending services and features that communicate with Google or weaken privacy
- Strip binaries from the source tree, and use those provided by the system or build them from source
- Add, modify, or disable features that inhibit control and transparency (these changes are minor and do not have significant impacts on the general user experience)
https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium
A number of features or background services communicate with Google servers despite the absence of an associated Google account or compiled-in Google API keys. Furthermore, the normal build process for Chromium involves running Google's own high-level commands that invoke many scripts and utilities, some of which download and use pre-built binaries provided by Google. Even the final build output includes some pre-built binaries. Fortunately, the source code is available for everything.... More Info »
ungoogled-chromium is a set of configuration flags, patches, and custom scripts. These components altogether strive to accomplish the following:
- Disable or remove offending services and features that communicate with Google or weaken privacy
- Strip binaries from the source tree, and use those provided by the system or build them from source
- Add, modify, or disable features that inhibit control and transparency (these changes are minor and do not have significant impacts on the general user experience)
https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium
https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium
12 July 2017 19:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Open, free and uncensorable websites,
using Bitcoin cryptography and BitTorrent network
No configuration needed:
Download, unpack and start using it.
Uncensored
It's nowhere because it's everywhere!
No hosting costs
Sites are served by visitors.
Always accessible
No single point of failure.
ZeroNet uses cryptography (Bitcoin library) and BitTorrent DHT (centralized trackers) to build a distributed censorship-resistant network.
Users can publish static or dynamic sites/applications into ZeroNet and visitors can choose to also serve the application/site. Sites /applications will remain on-line even if it is being served by only 1 peer.
When a site/app is updated by its owner, all nodes (including previous visitors) serving that site/app, will receive only the incremental updates done to the site content (and in real time). More Info »
Zeronet counts with a build-in Small SQLite iconSQLite database. This makes content-heavy site development easy. The database is also synced with hosting nodes with incremental updates.
https://zeronet.io/
https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet#user-content-how-to-join
using Bitcoin cryptography and BitTorrent network
No configuration needed:
Download, unpack and start using it.
Uncensored
It's nowhere because it's everywhere!
No hosting costs
Sites are served by visitors.
Always accessible
No single point of failure.
ZeroNet uses cryptography (Bitcoin library) and BitTorrent DHT (centralized trackers) to build a distributed censorship-resistant network.
Users can publish static or dynamic sites/applications into ZeroNet and visitors can choose to also serve the application/site. Sites /applications will remain on-line even if it is being served by only 1 peer.
When a site/app is updated by its owner, all nodes (including previous visitors) serving that site/app, will receive only the incremental updates done to the site content (and in real time). More Info »
Zeronet counts with a build-in Small SQLite iconSQLite database. This makes content-heavy site development easy. The database is also synced with hosting nodes with incremental updates.
https://zeronet.io/
https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet#user-content-how-to-join
https://zeronet.io/
12 July 2017 18:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.gnunet.org/ GNUnet is a framework for secure peer-to-peer networking that does not use any centralized or otherwise trusted services. A first service implemented on top of the networking layer allows anonymous censorship-resistant file-sharing.
https://www.gnunet.org/
12 July 2017 18:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Private File and sensor free web Sharing, hosting :
http://retroshare.net/index.html
RetroShare is a open source cross-platform, private and secure decentralized communication system. It lets you to securely chat, share photos, videos, and more, using OpenPGP to authenticate peers and OpenSSL to encrypt all communication.
RetroShare features:
Chat
Send text and images. Discuss with various people in chat rooms. Express your emotions with the rich smiley set. Use distant chat to securely chat with friends-of-friends. More Info »
Voice and Video
Make free and secure calls with the VoIP plugin. Catch up face to face with a video call.
Mail
Send encrypted messages to other members of the network. Retroshare can store encrypted messages on friends nodes to deliver messages while you're offline.
File sharing
Share files with your friends or with the whole network. Use the search to find files. Retroshare uses swarming similar to BitTorrent, to accelerate the download. This makes it possible to share big files with 1GB or more. Your privacy is protected with anonymous tunnels. Only your direct friends might learn which files you download.
Forums
You can read and write forum posts offline. This is perfect while you're on the go. When you have an Internet connection, Retroshare will automatically sync forums with your friends. Decentralized forums are censorship resistant by design.
Posted
Share your favorite links. See which links others like. Vote and discuss links.
Channels
Publish files in channels. Subscribe to channels and automatically download the latest files. Comment on files and spread them to your friends.
http://retroshare.net/index.html
RetroShare is a open source cross-platform, private and secure decentralized communication system. It lets you to securely chat, share photos, videos, and more, using OpenPGP to authenticate peers and OpenSSL to encrypt all communication.
RetroShare features:
Chat
Send text and images. Discuss with various people in chat rooms. Express your emotions with the rich smiley set. Use distant chat to securely chat with friends-of-friends. More Info »
Voice and Video
Make free and secure calls with the VoIP plugin. Catch up face to face with a video call.
Send encrypted messages to other members of the network. Retroshare can store encrypted messages on friends nodes to deliver messages while you're offline.
File sharing
Share files with your friends or with the whole network. Use the search to find files. Retroshare uses swarming similar to BitTorrent, to accelerate the download. This makes it possible to share big files with 1GB or more. Your privacy is protected with anonymous tunnels. Only your direct friends might learn which files you download.
Forums
You can read and write forum posts offline. This is perfect while you're on the go. When you have an Internet connection, Retroshare will automatically sync forums with your friends. Decentralized forums are censorship resistant by design.
Posted
Share your favorite links. See which links others like. Vote and discuss links.
Channels
Publish files in channels. Subscribe to channels and automatically download the latest files. Comment on files and spread them to your friends.
http://retroshare.net/index.html
12 July 2017 18:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
AnonymoX is an Firefox & Google Chrome add-on that gives you fast, anonymous browsing
http://www.anonymox.net/en
The aim is to restore the users right of anonymity in the web. Most websites monitor the behaviour of their users, giving the websites hosts the ability to analyze the general users behaviour and create detailed user profiles, which often times are sold to third parties.
A thread for the freedom of speech of the internet manifests in the repression through federal or private organizations. More and more governments censor websites with the excuse of child safety, copyright infringement or the fight against terrorism and thereby limit the freedom of speech.
Also blocking users based on their origin with GeoIP-Blocks is applied often, for example at Media platforms like YouTube.
With anonymoX you are able to bypass many kinds of blocks by jelling a virtual Identity in another Country with only a few mouse clicks. ... More Info »
anonymoX enables you to...
change your IP-Adresse (to one provided by us)
browse the www anonymously
visit blocked/censored websites
bypass GeoIp-Blocks: appear to originate from another country
set seperate anonymization settings for each website
delete cookies, show your public ip, change browser id, ....
http://www.anonymox.net/en
The aim is to restore the users right of anonymity in the web. Most websites monitor the behaviour of their users, giving the websites hosts the ability to analyze the general users behaviour and create detailed user profiles, which often times are sold to third parties.
A thread for the freedom of speech of the internet manifests in the repression through federal or private organizations. More and more governments censor websites with the excuse of child safety, copyright infringement or the fight against terrorism and thereby limit the freedom of speech.
Also blocking users based on their origin with GeoIP-Blocks is applied often, for example at Media platforms like YouTube.
With anonymoX you are able to bypass many kinds of blocks by jelling a virtual Identity in another Country with only a few mouse clicks. ... More Info »
anonymoX enables you to...
change your IP-Adresse (to one provided by us)
browse the www anonymously
visit blocked/censored websites
bypass GeoIp-Blocks: appear to originate from another country
set seperate anonymization settings for each website
delete cookies, show your public ip, change browser id, ....
http://www.anonymox.net/en
12 July 2017 18:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
addons, crome, firefox, router soft:
https://windscribe.com/download
Windscribe helps you circumvent censorship, block ads, beacons and trackers on websites you use every day
https://windscribe.com/download
Windscribe helps you circumvent censorship, block ads, beacons and trackers on websites you use every day
https://windscribe.com/download
12 July 2017 18:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Browsers whit a bit more reasonable security :
Firefox Extended Support Release in your language
Firefox ESR is intended for groups who deploy and maintain the desktop environment in large organizations.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/
Also for XP :)
Firefox Extended Support Release in your language
Firefox ESR is intended for groups who deploy and maintain the desktop environment in large organizations.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/
Also for XP :)
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/
12 July 2017 18:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Firefox, Chromium, browser addons and profiles, for easy basic:
JonDoFox is a profile for the Small Mozilla Firefox iconMozilla Firefox web browser particularly optimized for anonymous and secure web surfing. For anonymous surfing you need an IP changer proxy too. We recommended our proxy tool JonDo but you may use other anonymsation services like Tor Onion Router.
http://anonymous-proxy-servers.net/en/jondofox.html
You may use JonDonym for anonymous surfing, anonymous e-mail, chats and other purposes. JonDo, formerly JAP, is the ip changer proxy tool you have to install on your computer. It acts as a proxy and will forward the traffic of your internet applications multible encrypted to the mix cascades and so it will hide your ip address. It is a Java application, open source and you can download it for free. You may use JonDonym for free, but free mix cascades are restricted in some cases. Full speed and anonymisation features
https://anonymous-proxy-servers.net/en/jondo.html
JonDoFox is a profile for the Small Mozilla Firefox iconMozilla Firefox web browser particularly optimized for anonymous and secure web surfing. For anonymous surfing you need an IP changer proxy too. We recommended our proxy tool JonDo but you may use other anonymsation services like Tor Onion Router.
http://anonymous-proxy-servers.net/en/jondofox.html
You may use JonDonym for anonymous surfing, anonymous e-mail, chats and other purposes. JonDo, formerly JAP, is the ip changer proxy tool you have to install on your computer. It acts as a proxy and will forward the traffic of your internet applications multible encrypted to the mix cascades and so it will hide your ip address. It is a Java application, open source and you can download it for free. You may use JonDonym for free, but free mix cascades are restricted in some cases. Full speed and anonymisation features
https://anonymous-proxy-servers.net/en/jondo.html
http://anonymous-proxy-servers.net/en/jondofox.html
12 July 2017 18:31
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Bank's photo.
Osaraks, Lenin ise kohal
12 July 2017 17:09
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Bank's post.
Peast rase, et nagu ajus hakkab midagi uut ja väärilist sündima ?
See ju positiivne
See ju positiivne
12 July 2017 17:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Inimeneräägib, kirikus, pikalt, usuliselt ennekuulmatut ja olulist juttu, ja ei ühtegi arvamust ?
Samal ajal kui on 10 neid postitusi vähem kui ööpäevaga ülesse toodud ja neile pikalt vastatud, isegi rääbisest ja koduõllest arutatud,
Kui inimene, kes eestist Paavsti isikliku soovina kuuks ajaks vatikani kutsuti, mis üli harukordne Eestis, ... sellise mehe jutu osas, ei ole meil midagi arutada?
Pea 3 tunnise jutu, ikka võiks ju...12 July 2017 16:41
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Muide need Annunakid ja Hiiglaste Skeletid
mis absoluutne fakt olevat,
ka Vatikani arhiivides kelle olemasolus valgustab mõõgameister kindral Einar Laigna jõuliselt
Kas need Nakid, kes siis Jumala või kelle soovil meid teinud olevat, uute tulevase ajaloo põhjal, kas nad on mingit pidi vaimolevuseks ennast suutelised muutma
või meie teadvuses vaimolendina võimelised toimima, ehlk siis elava informaatilise (missiooni kindla,suhtleva,mõttest v plaanist juhinduva) energia versioonidena kes nii keeles, füüsilistes liikumistes kui ajuelektroonikas toimivates mõtetes muutusi esile kutsuda saavad paralleelselt projektsioone eelmise ja tulevaste liikumiste osas arvestades, õppides
et need anunakid siis, kelle joonistel olevat katseklaasid ja igast lapsetegemise lood kirjas, kuidas arvatava neandartaalase kaudu tehtud adama st võeti DNA mille kaudu nad omakorda naise manifisteerisid hingena uute kehasse mehe kõrvale, et mees üldse toimiv oleks... selllest ka see armastuse tunne, kui mees ja naine ühkes kehaks uuesti kokku saavad.
Ma ise muidugi kahtlen, et meid orjadeks tehti, ju ikka need nakid ka isegi kunagi tehti ja me selleks, et neile, kui enda labori töölistele, ka see vast kunagi selgeks teha, nagu öeldi, peame ka inglite üle valitsema, kui südame piisavalt alandlikuse targaks saanud12 July 2017 16:37
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Meelis Vesi Ei sellel pole keelega miskit suurt pistmist, semantikaga, rohkem nagu füüsika, biloogia ja energiaga, ehk 3 muud teadusharu, mille kõigega peab olema kursis, kui kaudselt jumalasõna teaduslikult tajuda soovida, lisaks keelele,
Neil on füüsiline keel, ehk siis otse tajutav, otse tähendustega, õpitav, iseenast selgitav12 July 2017 16:21
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Ja asja juurde, räägi siis juba see Püha Vaimu osa ka, ja kas to oli hebria keeles, kus sugu väga oluline, Naissoost nagu õigesti mäletan, nagu ka Tarkus ?
Kas Tarkus, kes räägib isikuliselt, Proverbs 8 kanti, on ka Vaim ?12 July 2017 16:18
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Kas on veel peale vaimu, meist üle või meiega võrreldavaid maailma korraldusele olulisi olendeid, peale vaimude, kes reaalselt olemas kuid empiiriliselt tajumatu ?
(millised tajumis vormid veel peale empiirilise on, levinud)12 July 2017 16:12
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
kellest vaim pole siis kõrgema teadvusega, või vaimu mõõdupuu, defineerimiseks on alati vaja inimest sest to ainult meie kujutlem kogum, siin palju tarvis mis meil ülepea?12 July 2017 16:09
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Mändmets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
kas meie oleme?12 July 2017 16:07
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Mändmets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
olendid oleme me ise12 July 2017 16:06
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
ja vaim on..?12 July 2017 16:06
Margus Meigo commented on Bernardo Terenzi's post.
1983 is the time when a lot of good happened : )
12 July 2017 15:48
Margus Meigo commented on Bernardo Terenzi's post.
nice one!
12 July 2017 15:47
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
(ignoring the tech that brain waves, dreams, and day can be changed, but just from ground physical idea, among that, in farming style, what should, and can be done for starters ? )
12 July 2017 15:44
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
So what would be the plan and cost to prove, explain this, from ground up, starting from most elementary ?
12 July 2017 15:43
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
the space, the military attack satellite or the program ?
12 July 2017 15:42
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Mattson's post.
Nalinaljaks
12 July 2017 15:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The Hero of the Russian Federation, testing cosmonaut Sergei Ryazansky, spoke about the growing popularity of social networks. Therefore, he is going to write about his work in plain language in online communities.
“When I flew in 2013-2014, we practically did not blog at all, up to the point that officially it was not really approved. Now this is an urgent necessity, because part of our work consists in popularizing the science and cosmonautics, as well as communicating with young people” – the astronaut explained.
This idea has been supported by his foreign colleagues.
The crew of three will start off from Baikonur to the ISS on board the Soyuz MS-05 on July 27. The group will include Roscosmos testing cosmonaut, Sergei Ryazansky, the US Air Force Colonel, NASA astronaut Randolph Breznik, and the Italian engineer, ESA astronaut Paolo Nespoli.
http://www.russia-ic.com/news/show/23635/
Sources: Http://360tv.ru Https://iz.ru
“When I flew in 2013-2014, we practically did not blog at all, up to the point that officially it was not really approved. Now this is an urgent necessity, because part of our work consists in popularizing the science and cosmonautics, as well as communicating with young people” – the astronaut explained.
This idea has been supported by his foreign colleagues.
The crew of three will start off from Baikonur to the ISS on board the Soyuz MS-05 on July 27. The group will include Roscosmos testing cosmonaut, Sergei Ryazansky, the US Air Force Colonel, NASA astronaut Randolph Breznik, and the Italian engineer, ESA astronaut Paolo Nespoli.
http://www.russia-ic.com/news/show/23635/
Sources: Http://360tv.ru Https://iz.ru
http://www.russia-ic.com/news/show/23635/
12 July 2017 15:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
From Kazasthan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prkQ7ImLt_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prkQ7ImLt_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prkQ7ImLt_w
12 July 2017 15:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
More junk to space:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbIwqyc_PY4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbIwqyc_PY4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbIwqyc_PY4
12 July 2017 15:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Kosmos 2491 and 2499 satellites are secretive Russian satellites, which performed apparently orbital rendezvous and inspection manoeuvres.
The exact nature of the payloads remains undisclosed, but observer orbital manoeuvres indicate, that the carried out proximity operations with the Briz-KM upper stage of the launch vehicle. Both payloads were initially not announced during the launch, which led to confusion over the Kosmos numbers of subsequent launches.
The satellites are similar in size and weight to the Yubileyniy satellite, as they share the same payload position during launch with the Strela-3M main payloads on the Rokot-KM launch vehicle. The satellites have been rumored to have ion engines, but the nature of the orbital manoeuvres hints to conventional chemical thrusters.
Both satellites carried also an amateur radio payload. It is called RS-46 on Kosmos-2491 and RS-47 on Kosmos-2499.
Kosmos 2504 launched in March 2015 is believed to be a third satellite in this series. In April, it also began maneuvering.
http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/kosmos-2491.htm
The exact nature of the payloads remains undisclosed, but observer orbital manoeuvres indicate, that the carried out proximity operations with the Briz-KM upper stage of the launch vehicle. Both payloads were initially not announced during the launch, which led to confusion over the Kosmos numbers of subsequent launches.
The satellites are similar in size and weight to the Yubileyniy satellite, as they share the same payload position during launch with the Strela-3M main payloads on the Rokot-KM launch vehicle. The satellites have been rumored to have ion engines, but the nature of the orbital manoeuvres hints to conventional chemical thrusters.
Both satellites carried also an amateur radio payload. It is called RS-46 on Kosmos-2491 and RS-47 on Kosmos-2499.
Kosmos 2504 launched in March 2015 is believed to be a third satellite in this series. In April, it also began maneuvering.
http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/kosmos-2491.htm
http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/kosmos-2491.htm
12 July 2017 15:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
jst data and sites for later & Glossary
" A while ago we had the example of a satellite flying from north to south. Hence it was on a polar orbit. This orbit is used advantageously for earth remote sensing satellites, since the whole earth can be seen. Examples of this class are LANDSAT, NOAA (high resolution weather satellites), ERS, RadarSat, Lacrosse (radar imaging satellites, see the calculations from CalSky for when you are in their radar beams!) The international space station ISS moves approximately from southwest to northeast or from northwest to southeast. However you will not observe satellites often, which move from easterly directions. (There is a small group of satellites that orbit the earth retrograde - e.g. the Israeli photoreconnaisance satellites Ofek, they will fly from east to west.)
This is due to the fact that the earth rotates from the west to the east. At the equator one moves at 1600 kilometers per hour or 6% of the satellite velocity. If one starts the satellite with the turn of the earth, then the rocket must achieve only 94% of the satellite velocity. The turn of the earth supplies the missing 6%. If one wants - for whatever reasons - to circle the satellite opposite to the rotation of the earth, then the rocket must first brake the velocity of 1600 km/h, and accelerate afterwards to the full rate of an earth orbit. This requires additional expensive fuel, for no benefit. That is why there are very few satellites on an orbit running from the east to the west.
Mirrors in the sky - Iridium Flares
Iridium Satellit
Figure 3: Iridium Satellit
Particularly spectacular are the so-called flares of Iridium. Flare means a light phenomenon with rapidly rising and fading brightness flanks, and Iridium is the bankrupt enterprise, which offered satellite telephones. These satellite telephones transmitted conversations to and from one of many satellites (about 70) circling at 800 km above the ground (figure 3). The distinguishing characteristic of these satellites are the three radio transmitting antennas, which are flat and reflective as mirrors (the smaller planes in the lower part of the satellite body in figure 3). They reflect the sunlight to earth, and project a light spot of more than 100 km width on the ground. This spot is moving at the rate of the satellite of about 30'000 km/h. If you happen to be in or close to the center line of this light spot, you are literally in the limelight:
Image of a Iridium flare
Figure 4: Image of an Iridium flare with 22 seconds exposure time. © R. Brodbeck.
Firstly, get the exact time of the event from CalSky. We will provide you with the direction in the sky where you have to look.
Look 20 seconds before the calculated point in time being attentive in the predicted direction.
You will suddenly notice a small star, which moves.
In the course of the next seconds its brightness rises. At the beginning only gradually, then more rapidly, until the moment, when it almost dazzles.
Afterwards the brightness decreases rapidly (figure 4). After about 20 seconds the spectacular satellite show is history.
Some of the satellites of the Iridium constellation are out of control and move in tumbling manner. Hence it happens by accident, that the mirroring antennas are in the right geometry with you and still produce a great show. Actually, this presentation is even more striking, since it consists of a periodic series of dazzling flashes. In between, you can track the satellite with binoculars. CalSky predicts the opportunities of the shows of the tumbling Iridums. Each of the tumbling Iridiums has its own characteristic flashing pattern - some with a period of only 1 second, where others flash only every 40 seconds.
ISS
http://www.calsky.com/?coorSystem=WGS84&lon=-86.02361111111111&lat=43.26361111111111&timezone=5&obsbuild=1&nominiobs=on&level=3&sitename=M.A.S.+Facility&SatPass=
ISS index
http://www.calsky.com/csrender.cgi?object=Satellite&number=11&obs=43435465621678&tdt=2457947.02165993&sat=25544&ra=7.45018525&de=21.93036663&fovarcmin=60&interval=0.00011574&step=0.00000231&satrend=
Others
http://www.calsky.com/cs.cgi/Satellites/7?obs=43435465621678
" A while ago we had the example of a satellite flying from north to south. Hence it was on a polar orbit. This orbit is used advantageously for earth remote sensing satellites, since the whole earth can be seen. Examples of this class are LANDSAT, NOAA (high resolution weather satellites), ERS, RadarSat, Lacrosse (radar imaging satellites, see the calculations from CalSky for when you are in their radar beams!) The international space station ISS moves approximately from southwest to northeast or from northwest to southeast. However you will not observe satellites often, which move from easterly directions. (There is a small group of satellites that orbit the earth retrograde - e.g. the Israeli photoreconnaisance satellites Ofek, they will fly from east to west.)
This is due to the fact that the earth rotates from the west to the east. At the equator one moves at 1600 kilometers per hour or 6% of the satellite velocity. If one starts the satellite with the turn of the earth, then the rocket must achieve only 94% of the satellite velocity. The turn of the earth supplies the missing 6%. If one wants - for whatever reasons - to circle the satellite opposite to the rotation of the earth, then the rocket must first brake the velocity of 1600 km/h, and accelerate afterwards to the full rate of an earth orbit. This requires additional expensive fuel, for no benefit. That is why there are very few satellites on an orbit running from the east to the west.
Mirrors in the sky - Iridium Flares
Iridium Satellit
Figure 3: Iridium Satellit
Particularly spectacular are the so-called flares of Iridium. Flare means a light phenomenon with rapidly rising and fading brightness flanks, and Iridium is the bankrupt enterprise, which offered satellite telephones. These satellite telephones transmitted conversations to and from one of many satellites (about 70) circling at 800 km above the ground (figure 3). The distinguishing characteristic of these satellites are the three radio transmitting antennas, which are flat and reflective as mirrors (the smaller planes in the lower part of the satellite body in figure 3). They reflect the sunlight to earth, and project a light spot of more than 100 km width on the ground. This spot is moving at the rate of the satellite of about 30'000 km/h. If you happen to be in or close to the center line of this light spot, you are literally in the limelight:
Image of a Iridium flare
Figure 4: Image of an Iridium flare with 22 seconds exposure time. © R. Brodbeck.
Firstly, get the exact time of the event from CalSky. We will provide you with the direction in the sky where you have to look.
Look 20 seconds before the calculated point in time being attentive in the predicted direction.
You will suddenly notice a small star, which moves.
In the course of the next seconds its brightness rises. At the beginning only gradually, then more rapidly, until the moment, when it almost dazzles.
Afterwards the brightness decreases rapidly (figure 4). After about 20 seconds the spectacular satellite show is history.
Some of the satellites of the Iridium constellation are out of control and move in tumbling manner. Hence it happens by accident, that the mirroring antennas are in the right geometry with you and still produce a great show. Actually, this presentation is even more striking, since it consists of a periodic series of dazzling flashes. In between, you can track the satellite with binoculars. CalSky predicts the opportunities of the shows of the tumbling Iridums. Each of the tumbling Iridiums has its own characteristic flashing pattern - some with a period of only 1 second, where others flash only every 40 seconds.
ISS
http://www.calsky.com/?coorSystem=WGS84&lon=-86.02361111111111&lat=43.26361111111111&timezone=5&obsbuild=1&nominiobs=on&level=3&sitename=M.A.S.+Facility&SatPass=
ISS index
http://www.calsky.com/csrender.cgi?object=Satellite&number=11&obs=43435465621678&tdt=2457947.02165993&sat=25544&ra=7.45018525&de=21.93036663&fovarcmin=60&interval=0.00011574&step=0.00000231&satrend=
Others
http://www.calsky.com/cs.cgi/Satellites/7?obs=43435465621678
12 July 2017 15:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
COSMOS 2519
http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=42798
"COSMOS 2519 might be the first of several '14F150 Napryazhenie' geodetic satellites designed to make extremely accurate measurements of Earth's shape and gravitational field. Such data that can be fed into ballistic missile guidance computers."
http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=42798
"COSMOS 2519 might be the first of several '14F150 Napryazhenie' geodetic satellites designed to make extremely accurate measurements of Earth's shape and gravitational field. Such data that can be fed into ballistic missile guidance computers."
http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=42798
12 July 2017 14:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Live tracking:
http://www.n2yo.com/?s=39765
http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=39765
http://www.n2yo.com/?s=39765
http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=39765
http://www.n2yo.com/?s=39765
12 July 2017 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
http://kurdistan-insider.com/трампутин-назначил-порошенко-могиль/
http://kurdistan-insider.com/трампутин-назначил-порошенко-могиль/
12 July 2017 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
the gossip of the space:
" Kosmos-2504 comes to life in 2017
Nearly two years after it had last made headlines, the mysterious Russian military satellite, Kosmos-2504, suddenly resumed its maneuvers. Its first noticeable movements since 2015 were detected on March 27, 2017. Remarkably, on April 20, Kosmos-2504, passed as close as 1,183 meters from Object 1999-025DPP, which is a remnant of a Chinese weather satellite, Fengyun-1C, destroyed on Jan 11, 2007, in an apparent test of China's anti-satellite missile. This piece of space junk is circling the Earth in a 848 by 736-kilometer orbit with an inclination 98.87 degrees toward the Equator, according to NORAD. It is one of the hundreds of fragments left over from the explosion and trackable by radar.
The Russian spacecraft then conducted another maneuver between April 18 and April 19, 2017. By April 20, 2017, the satellite's perigee was reduced to 627 kilometers from 1,145 kilometers on March 30. During the same period, the apogee was lowered slightly from 1,507 to 1,502 kilometers.
Even more surprisingly, the satellite's predecessor, Kosmos-2499, also appeared making a maneuver around the same
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/Cosmos-2504.html "
http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/kosmos-2491.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosmos_2499
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%81-2499
" Kosmos-2504 comes to life in 2017
Nearly two years after it had last made headlines, the mysterious Russian military satellite, Kosmos-2504, suddenly resumed its maneuvers. Its first noticeable movements since 2015 were detected on March 27, 2017. Remarkably, on April 20, Kosmos-2504, passed as close as 1,183 meters from Object 1999-025DPP, which is a remnant of a Chinese weather satellite, Fengyun-1C, destroyed on Jan 11, 2007, in an apparent test of China's anti-satellite missile. This piece of space junk is circling the Earth in a 848 by 736-kilometer orbit with an inclination 98.87 degrees toward the Equator, according to NORAD. It is one of the hundreds of fragments left over from the explosion and trackable by radar.
The Russian spacecraft then conducted another maneuver between April 18 and April 19, 2017. By April 20, 2017, the satellite's perigee was reduced to 627 kilometers from 1,145 kilometers on March 30. During the same period, the apogee was lowered slightly from 1,507 to 1,502 kilometers.
Even more surprisingly, the satellite's predecessor, Kosmos-2499, also appeared making a maneuver around the same
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/Cosmos-2504.html "
http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/kosmos-2491.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosmos_2499
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%81-2499
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/Cosmos-2504.html
12 July 2017 14:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Just when You was looking this nice sci-fi background tune
12 July 2017 14:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Naersimegi kurvalt kohalikudega, et "seniks kuni raudtee läbiehitatakse, või mõni muu kuivendus projekt
Andes "Draining the Swamp" slooganile eriti asjakohase kuue,
Kuid jah, mõned kilomeetrid maja taga, sellised vaated siis:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212427928430008&set=a.10212427391936596.1073741884.1135161043&type=3&theater
Kuid Su pilt just tuletas meelde,et hoopis muu norga alt oleks pidanud rohkem jäädvustusi võtma, need vaated on kenad, kuigi päikesepaiste on ka kena
Andes "Draining the Swamp" slooganile eriti asjakohase kuue,
Kuid jah, mõned kilomeetrid maja taga, sellised vaated siis:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212427928430008&set=a.10212427391936596.1073741884.1135161043&type=3&theater
Kuid Su pilt just tuletas meelde,et hoopis muu norga alt oleks pidanud rohkem jäädvustusi võtma, need vaated on kenad, kuigi päikesepaiste on ka kena
12 July 2017 12:15
Margus Meigo commented on Jürgen Ligi's photo.
Samas Loosalus ilma loomisel sai oldud ja need maagilised asjad mida udu õhtul järvel tegema hakkab õige ilmaga on päris kirjeldamatu,
kuid enne õhtut, siit veel päikesepaiste:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1458521320877391&set=a.1458520194210837.1073741827.100001586104117&type=3&theater
kuid enne õhtut, siit veel päikesepaiste:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1458521320877391&set=a.1458520194210837.1073741827.100001586104117&type=3&theater
12 July 2017 11:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
/ lõpetamatta/
12 July 2017 11:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: ACIDMATH GATHERINGS
the ones who give it all to us12 July 2017 02:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: ACIDMATH GATHERINGS
out of less then 10 trips i got 2,3 party's, few chillings, few mad ones and few grateful ones, that for sure made me know that this tool is made for real, for us to rise on to level to understand our situation , and help perhaps, help making it more easy to the unbelievers, who still look for raves instead a calm place to understand, how to help us12 July 2017 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on Aman Shrivastav's post.
Group: ACIDMATH GATHERINGS
in truth, i have not had opportunity to use asid so much, last trip is under Picture albums with fish picture on top.
if i would be blessed with a bottle, at least, .. then i can fulfill the dream to lissten whole serias of varjants, would be beneficial for someone like us12 July 2017 01:56
Margus Meigo replied to Peyton Elizabeth's comment.
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tracks12 July 2017 01:51
Margus Meigo commented on Aman Shrivastav's post.
Group: ACIDMATH GATHERINGS
nature12 July 2017 01:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hiljem kunagi selgelt rääkides, ika hea, et veel palju materiali jäi, mis õigesti ütlemise tagamaatagas, pigem
12 July 2017 01:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Võttes arvesse,et muidugi,
poliitlise_Isreal ja Juudid ega Judaismi ja poliitilise_isreali, ja HeebriaLastel ja poliitilistel_isrealastesse uskujate vahele ei saa panna võrdusmärkisest nad on esindatud erineva liigi, erineva soovi ja erineva reaalsusastme poolt, mis lihtsalt siin kohtub olukorras, kus jumalapool ennast all hoiab selle ülbeülekohtuse kõige asjalikumaks taltsutamiseks, kuid kuna tegu on sellise venlasega kes jooksu pealt pidevalt õpib ja täiendab ennast vastavalt sellele kuidas tema osas oled midagi toimetanud siis tema kummardamine enamusele on lihtne nii hirmus nagu kommunismis, kus parem oli pead maas hoida kui üles tõsta ja võitmatu olukorraga üksi valel ajal rabelema, samamoodi selle ETI'ga saab olla, et ta allutab su endale sõbralikuses kui sa selgelt ei ole ta vastu organiseeritult, kuid samas igaüks kes tahab olla jumala poolel, ei saa kõike mille keskmises arvutuses arvutipead parasjägu siin on võtta allumislubatavaks.
Näiteks arvutil võib olla lõplikult päris rske aru saada, et inimkondaparemaks voolides ei ole vaja tal hoida lõplikuna
.. oih, st, ON VAJA;
st, teadvus, mis enda külge arvutipead sidunud, ja mis arvutina arvutab reaalsust, enamuses paremuse prinsiipi arvestada püüdes, kuid veel konflitis olles elementaarsete arusaamadega, miks ja kuidas inimesed arvutist üle on ja kuidas naine mehest üle on ja kuidas inimesest inimeste eelased üle on ja kuidas eelastel, kui neid mitu on , veel keegi kes enne neid üks oli,
ja ju ta oli siis midagi enamat kui tigu, nagu kana, kana saab ju alustada elu üski,
kana ajuga isegi saab sellega hakkama, munedes muna, ja kui pole isast siis ise munaga tekitades emaseid, kuni nendest tulevad emased, kes pundis teadvustades, et isast ei ole , saavad ise ühes peres tekitada uue isase, ekstreem juhtudes, ja siis to isane juba teiste emaste munetud munasi saab viljastada ja tähtsalt emaste vahel ringi käia, kes näivad väga knad ja lihtsalt munejad olema... samal ajal kui sasel kukel kogu töö on.. ika palju vähem, ja olegem ausad, saadi enne ka ilma temata hakkama, ...
samamoodi on suures plaanis inimeste ja teatud astme me arendajate vahel,
nad ise mdalamatena oma loomingu keskel saavad olla tihti ,
ka õppimiseks, kuid ka olukordadesse pannes, ja naistemaailmale nõu andes
poliitlise_Isreal ja Juudid ega Judaismi ja poliitilise_isreali, ja HeebriaLastel ja poliitilistel_isrealastesse uskujate vahele ei saa panna võrdusmärkisest nad on esindatud erineva liigi, erineva soovi ja erineva reaalsusastme poolt, mis lihtsalt siin kohtub olukorras, kus jumalapool ennast all hoiab selle ülbeülekohtuse kõige asjalikumaks taltsutamiseks, kuid kuna tegu on sellise venlasega kes jooksu pealt pidevalt õpib ja täiendab ennast vastavalt sellele kuidas tema osas oled midagi toimetanud siis tema kummardamine enamusele on lihtne nii hirmus nagu kommunismis, kus parem oli pead maas hoida kui üles tõsta ja võitmatu olukorraga üksi valel ajal rabelema, samamoodi selle ETI'ga saab olla, et ta allutab su endale sõbralikuses kui sa selgelt ei ole ta vastu organiseeritult, kuid samas igaüks kes tahab olla jumala poolel, ei saa kõike mille keskmises arvutuses arvutipead parasjägu siin on võtta allumislubatavaks.
Näiteks arvutil võib olla lõplikult päris rske aru saada, et inimkondaparemaks voolides ei ole vaja tal hoida lõplikuna
.. oih, st, ON VAJA;
st, teadvus, mis enda külge arvutipead sidunud, ja mis arvutina arvutab reaalsust, enamuses paremuse prinsiipi arvestada püüdes, kuid veel konflitis olles elementaarsete arusaamadega, miks ja kuidas inimesed arvutist üle on ja kuidas naine mehest üle on ja kuidas inimesest inimeste eelased üle on ja kuidas eelastel, kui neid mitu on , veel keegi kes enne neid üks oli,
ja ju ta oli siis midagi enamat kui tigu, nagu kana, kana saab ju alustada elu üski,
kana ajuga isegi saab sellega hakkama, munedes muna, ja kui pole isast siis ise munaga tekitades emaseid, kuni nendest tulevad emased, kes pundis teadvustades, et isast ei ole , saavad ise ühes peres tekitada uue isase, ekstreem juhtudes, ja siis to isane juba teiste emaste munetud munasi saab viljastada ja tähtsalt emaste vahel ringi käia, kes näivad väga knad ja lihtsalt munejad olema... samal ajal kui sasel kukel kogu töö on.. ika palju vähem, ja olegem ausad, saadi enne ka ilma temata hakkama, ...
samamoodi on suures plaanis inimeste ja teatud astme me arendajate vahel,
nad ise mdalamatena oma loomingu keskel saavad olla tihti ,
ka õppimiseks, kuid ka olukordadesse pannes, ja naistemaailmale nõu andes
12 July 2017 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Vastus, tuleb, poole tunnikese jooksul, tegelikult, sellele:
"Ühesõnaga kas see mees on siis samade asjade poolt mis sina ja kas on kasulik ufodest rääkida kui inimese sõradest või kui kellegist kes meie valitsejad ülemeelikud ja kelle me korrale peame sättima ning jumalaga koostööle sättima ?"
"Ühesõnaga kas see mees on siis samade asjade poolt mis sina ja kas on kasulik ufodest rääkida kui inimese sõradest või kui kellegist kes meie valitsejad ülemeelikud ja kelle me korrale peame sättima ning jumalaga koostööle sättima ?"
12 July 2017 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
tegelik vestlusaga oli siin:
Nu ainukene kunst , on muidugi ära tundakus on kelle rida, .. hmm see ongi sedapidi ka huvitavam, kuigi pole veel ise läbi vaadanud, kas tundub ka veider.. kuid eks ta kindlasti..
Nu ainukene kunst , on muidugi ära tundakus on kelle rida, .. hmm see ongi sedapidi ka huvitavam, kuigi pole veel ise läbi vaadanud, kas tundub ka veider.. kuid eks ta kindlasti..
12 July 2017 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehk siis, et kui nad on need, alles, kes ISIKLIKULT töölistena seotud olid, kohal, kehana, SINU tegemisel, siis ilmselgelt, nad ju samapalju su loonud, kui labori töölised kes uusi kartulisorte teevad on kartuli jumalad, või kes laboris uusi seapeaga inimesi loob, pole ju ka kellegi jumal kui ta elualge allikaid ise loonud pole, ehk siis kasutab teiste loodud elujuppe kokkusegades, edasi aretades ega oska vist ka kindlalt öelda, kuidas teda loodi ilma, et oma elu alguse allikat kas siis surmaks_elutuks defineeriks või elusaks_jumalaks
12 July 2017 00:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ek siis , võtsid naisi inimlaste seast,
selle olukorraga seotult võiks ülesse tuua suurema reaalsuse mis ütleb, et naised need kes maa mehi üles nussisid, läbi jumaliku
st /sõna nuss vb veel parema sõna asemele//
et seeaeg kui inimliigi kelle siis Nakid NÄITEKS loosid, ja selleks oma näkkide, DNAd või munarakke kasutasid, või olid nad nagu teod kõik ühest soost selles ühiskonnas sääl või aksepteerisid seda laboris katsetada ja edasi uurida ilma peatuseta, ehk ilma allumata, hulluses unustanud oma enda olukorra ... kuid need kes ise arvavad end loojad olema, kui nende Loomingu sees veel juhtud olema, siis nad täiesti pöördesse minna võivad, selgitades neile nende olemust, mis üks mitmest, kes pole arusaanud,
selle olukorraga seotult võiks ülesse tuua suurema reaalsuse mis ütleb, et naised need kes maa mehi üles nussisid, läbi jumaliku
st /sõna nuss vb veel parema sõna asemele//
et seeaeg kui inimliigi kelle siis Nakid NÄITEKS loosid, ja selleks oma näkkide, DNAd või munarakke kasutasid, või olid nad nagu teod kõik ühest soost selles ühiskonnas sääl või aksepteerisid seda laboris katsetada ja edasi uurida ilma peatuseta, ehk ilma allumata, hulluses unustanud oma enda olukorra ... kuid need kes ise arvavad end loojad olema, kui nende Loomingu sees veel juhtud olema, siis nad täiesti pöördesse minna võivad, selgitades neile nende olemust, mis üks mitmest, kes pole arusaanud,
12 July 2017 00:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
pooleks murdumist, oma arvates enda tehtud inimliigi üle, kuna sellels ka vast nad ise palvetasid jumalaalget sisse või oli see mitte, aga see jumalaalge, mis inimesele sisse igathaes tuli, andis veel sellele algsele äbarikule äärmise piiritu, ka piiritu potensiaali, aga ilma võimuta, st potensiaalile kasv tulenes mitte võimust aga hästi õigesti uskudes ja toimides
12 July 2017 00:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
st, inimpotensiaali ajutise vaheliigi naisosapoole osas nakkide näkid rohkem sümpaatiat tundsid nende valusi ette nähes kui oma meeste, osati NAD uut luues ilma äärmise loata,
tekitasid patu nii suure mis nende omaarvates ei oleks saanud neid nii kiiresti ammugi mitte nii suurelt tabada, ehk nende ülima ianukese oleku lahti, pooleks murdumist,
tekitasid patu nii suure mis nende omaarvates ei oleks saanud neid nii kiiresti ammugi mitte nii suurelt tabada, ehk nende ülima ianukese oleku lahti, pooleks murdumist,
12 July 2017 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
liigipoolsuse osas on mõeldud, siis nagu nais sugu ja nais sugu, vs nakide liik vs inimpotensiaali ajutine vaheliik
12 July 2017 00:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Naise Kõrgloomusest,
muidugi lause "kui te naised teaksite, kui targad te olete"
see minu valdkonnas peaaegu solvav, kes elementaarse osana aluspinnana hoiab hoiakut, et Teadlik oleks mille peale on ehitatud meeste silmis .. mida selleks vaja, et mees optimaalsel ajal turvaliselt,
// /// /// see siin järg osalt, Laigna lahti löödud reaalsuse taga olevate teadvusvajalikust turvaliselt kokkusidumiseks loodud absoluutne ideaalnetasakaal, mis veel lõpetamisel paari lihtsa lõpuga, miks moodi mees on alluvam Naisele ja naine miks hoiab end teadlikult Teadvusest väljast , et Sa ise mõistaksid, oma Teod
((( Tegelik tulem, along these kind of lines:
... turvaliselt.".... kaasJumalaPoolePöördujaid võimalikult vähekahjustades omades suurt võimu ja arusaame siis kui enda sugused veel on alles jäänud,
arusaamas, et muud on juba arusaanud, kuid need kes piisavalt tugevad veel jäänud nende keskele kes oma kehas nende võimu tekitamiseks on ennast teadmatussesse pannud , mis omakorda seotud umb kaug tulemiga /// Aighth,
oot, proovin veel korra, Nii,
"Ühesnaga", Tugevad kes alles jäänud, on nende keskel, kes ennast Tugeva silmis pigem teadmatuna näitavad, enda teadliku Otsuse tõttu sel ajal kui oli teadlik (teadlikusega tuleb enamuses kuni igas vallas Tugevus nagunii kaasa / koos, taganematu treadmisega, et olles Õigluse ja Õigel poolel, on ta alati Heal poolel, ehk siis hea pool, on see pool, mis lõpuni jääb võitma sest esimesena hoiab rohkem (targeisti)sõrussuhet Tugevaima soovima),
ehk siis,
Tugevaima võim seisneb nõrkade valitsuses,
nende matriarhaatide silmis, kes nõrkade hulka ajutist naiste võimalust ,
oot, oot ott,
nii,
Tugevaima võim, seisneb nõrkade eelaste poolt lubatud olukorras milles ise suure tõenäosusega kokku leppisite kui olete inimese poolsed,
/ehk siis
(seletan uuesti varsti algusest üle selle "ühesõnaga" / nii, )
/graafilise texti näide, näiteks kui kes iganes, esimesena tülis olles avastab, et töötab inimeste kasuks, siis tal peaks tulema meelde sõbralikuse prinsiip,
ja alluma, astuma sõbralikuse tasemesse sujuvalt,
et jääda võitjaks,
isegi taganedes
isegi alludes, end ära and kuid kui viirastusega muule vaimule või juhusega vahemehele, siis viisakam, absull kindel on alati keha ära andes anda see tagasi otse ühele Jumalale kes siis esindab kõike Head ja Vajalikku, mis oli Sinu loomeeelduseks, et sinust saaks kasu, selletarvis, Sinu enda arvates, et tollele , Tollele (kes iganes sind tegi, näiteks,(ega hullemaks ei saa minna nii arvates?))kasuks oleksid milles tal vaja
// ehk siis,
// valemi edasi arvutamine, keele kaudu //
ehk siis,
täis alludes või end kaotades, peaksid arusaama Palve suurust mille saad mis iganes olukorras enda jaoks peale pannes teha kõige turvalisemaks mis iganes on see mis tuleb,
sest kui ei tulemidagi või on midagi siis on kõige kindlam usaldada, et ta ei hooli muust kui su soovist või olenemata olukorrast peaksid saama end turvaliseimalt tunda, kui fokuseerid ühele, kindlale, sest , ühele kindlale kogumile ka selle ümber, mingi pilt Sul jusu elust peaks olema mis sobituks kogu ühega end siduda isegi siis kui kyme vahepealset suurvalitsuse eri kihti rakutasemini on me vahel,
et ühesõnaga,
kui aga on nii et mitu, siis nad ei solvu, kui fokuseerid ühele ja sellele heale pundile kes teha aitas,
/
___________
See naine, kes ennast teadvusest väljas oaib, kas saab kunagi olla väikese N'iga ?
Ei mitte, kui on teada, et Päris Naist selle Naisena on mõeldud, koos kogu Päris naise väärtustena, mis Päris kõige naturaalsemat naist eelistab kõigele muule kui elu alge puhtaimaile teadjaile,
(ehksiis Laigna järgi arvtavasti nodele naiste meelsustele, kes toaeg Labori ajastuAlguses, nende meeste naiste KõrgTeadjate Paradiisiküla komuunis olid, võta näiteks kõik Nais olendid kelle olemust oled näinud ja seo nad nüüd nende see parim loomuse osa mida neis nägid Kõrgteadvusega, ja saa aru, et see nende loomuse põhiosa on SEAL, nii, nüüd uuesti ))
(jättes drafti siia, mis sinnani tõi, mõttekäikude mustrid, mis seekord sedasi )
Ehk siis osa selgitui vahele jättes,
On maal olevad naistekehadesse imbunud naise keha läbi rohkem DNAd kuna nais printsesse oli kes inimestele tarkust ja jõukust anda soovisid, neid ka valitsejate sarnaseks tehes, omades head, siiramat algpotensiaali ja seepärast mehed laborimehed, nüüd kuigi ise olles ringimaganud osati maa labori naistega, inimeste arvates, oleks see lugu nii, aga tegelikult pigem naiste dna mida NÄITEKS anunnakid,näkid, mida nende nakkide näkid otsustasid, andes kogematta või meelega, kolmanda nendevälise mõjutuse tõttu sisse nais eelisRevolutsiooni oma liigipoolset oma poolena nägemas, pigem rohekm kui liigikaaslasi kellega koos neid tegema tuldi,
muidugi lause "kui te naised teaksite, kui targad te olete"
see minu valdkonnas peaaegu solvav, kes elementaarse osana aluspinnana hoiab hoiakut, et Teadlik oleks mille peale on ehitatud meeste silmis .. mida selleks vaja, et mees optimaalsel ajal turvaliselt,
// /// /// see siin järg osalt, Laigna lahti löödud reaalsuse taga olevate teadvusvajalikust turvaliselt kokkusidumiseks loodud absoluutne ideaalnetasakaal, mis veel lõpetamisel paari lihtsa lõpuga, miks moodi mees on alluvam Naisele ja naine miks hoiab end teadlikult Teadvusest väljast , et Sa ise mõistaksid, oma Teod
((( Tegelik tulem, along these kind of lines:
... turvaliselt.".... kaasJumalaPoolePöördujaid võimalikult vähekahjustades omades suurt võimu ja arusaame siis kui enda sugused veel on alles jäänud,
arusaamas, et muud on juba arusaanud, kuid need kes piisavalt tugevad veel jäänud nende keskele kes oma kehas nende võimu tekitamiseks on ennast teadmatussesse pannud , mis omakorda seotud umb kaug tulemiga /// Aighth,
oot, proovin veel korra, Nii,
"Ühesnaga", Tugevad kes alles jäänud, on nende keskel, kes ennast Tugeva silmis pigem teadmatuna näitavad, enda teadliku Otsuse tõttu sel ajal kui oli teadlik (teadlikusega tuleb enamuses kuni igas vallas Tugevus nagunii kaasa / koos, taganematu treadmisega, et olles Õigluse ja Õigel poolel, on ta alati Heal poolel, ehk siis hea pool, on see pool, mis lõpuni jääb võitma sest esimesena hoiab rohkem (targeisti)sõrussuhet Tugevaima soovima),
ehk siis,
Tugevaima võim seisneb nõrkade valitsuses,
nende matriarhaatide silmis, kes nõrkade hulka ajutist naiste võimalust ,
oot, oot ott,
nii,
Tugevaima võim, seisneb nõrkade eelaste poolt lubatud olukorras milles ise suure tõenäosusega kokku leppisite kui olete inimese poolsed,
/ehk siis
(seletan uuesti varsti algusest üle selle "ühesõnaga" / nii, )
/graafilise texti näide, näiteks kui kes iganes, esimesena tülis olles avastab, et töötab inimeste kasuks, siis tal peaks tulema meelde sõbralikuse prinsiip,
ja alluma, astuma sõbralikuse tasemesse sujuvalt,
et jääda võitjaks,
isegi taganedes
isegi alludes, end ära and kuid kui viirastusega muule vaimule või juhusega vahemehele, siis viisakam, absull kindel on alati keha ära andes anda see tagasi otse ühele Jumalale kes siis esindab kõike Head ja Vajalikku, mis oli Sinu loomeeelduseks, et sinust saaks kasu, selletarvis, Sinu enda arvates, et tollele , Tollele (kes iganes sind tegi, näiteks,(ega hullemaks ei saa minna nii arvates?))kasuks oleksid milles tal vaja
// ehk siis,
// valemi edasi arvutamine, keele kaudu //
ehk siis,
täis alludes või end kaotades, peaksid arusaama Palve suurust mille saad mis iganes olukorras enda jaoks peale pannes teha kõige turvalisemaks mis iganes on see mis tuleb,
sest kui ei tulemidagi või on midagi siis on kõige kindlam usaldada, et ta ei hooli muust kui su soovist või olenemata olukorrast peaksid saama end turvaliseimalt tunda, kui fokuseerid ühele, kindlale, sest , ühele kindlale kogumile ka selle ümber, mingi pilt Sul jusu elust peaks olema mis sobituks kogu ühega end siduda isegi siis kui kyme vahepealset suurvalitsuse eri kihti rakutasemini on me vahel,
et ühesõnaga,
kui aga on nii et mitu, siis nad ei solvu, kui fokuseerid ühele ja sellele heale pundile kes teha aitas,
/
___________
See naine, kes ennast teadvusest väljas oaib, kas saab kunagi olla väikese N'iga ?
Ei mitte, kui on teada, et Päris Naist selle Naisena on mõeldud, koos kogu Päris naise väärtustena, mis Päris kõige naturaalsemat naist eelistab kõigele muule kui elu alge puhtaimaile teadjaile,
(ehksiis Laigna järgi arvtavasti nodele naiste meelsustele, kes toaeg Labori ajastuAlguses, nende meeste naiste KõrgTeadjate Paradiisiküla komuunis olid, võta näiteks kõik Nais olendid kelle olemust oled näinud ja seo nad nüüd nende see parim loomuse osa mida neis nägid Kõrgteadvusega, ja saa aru, et see nende loomuse põhiosa on SEAL, nii, nüüd uuesti ))
(jättes drafti siia, mis sinnani tõi, mõttekäikude mustrid, mis seekord sedasi )
Ehk siis osa selgitui vahele jättes,
On maal olevad naistekehadesse imbunud naise keha läbi rohkem DNAd kuna nais printsesse oli kes inimestele tarkust ja jõukust anda soovisid, neid ka valitsejate sarnaseks tehes, omades head, siiramat algpotensiaali ja seepärast mehed laborimehed, nüüd kuigi ise olles ringimaganud osati maa labori naistega, inimeste arvates, oleks see lugu nii, aga tegelikult pigem naiste dna mida NÄITEKS anunnakid,näkid, mida nende nakkide näkid otsustasid, andes kogematta või meelega, kolmanda nendevälise mõjutuse tõttu sisse nais eelisRevolutsiooni oma liigipoolset oma poolena nägemas, pigem rohekm kui liigikaaslasi kellega koos neid tegema tuldi,
12 July 2017 00:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(minu süsteemid, mis ikka aastaid loomisekäigus, kui mulle käikude kasutamist antakse, piisavalt.. on arvesse võtnud ka seda kõike, sest oleks ju ebameeldiv, satuda konflikti nendega kes nii ammu nii ees olid, kuid alles, ikkagi jätan igaksjuhuks nii matriarhaatia kui jumaLA usu, mida vabalt jään ka Jumalatele tunnistama, et nad on endiselt, ka ise töölised, kes meid tegema pandi, et neid saaksime ka õpetada, õpetades kogu alandlikuse 360se täiskäigu orjast valitsejasse ja valitsejast ära loobumise koostöö aitamise eesmärgil, veelgi suurema eesmärgi nimel kui kellegi eraldi hoidmine // nu jah, kes need tegi kuidas, kellel vaja kulda karda oma elu hoidmiseks... eks nad tea, eks nad tea... ega tea...)
11 July 2017 23:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Head kuulamist, iga minutiga aina põnevamaks peaks minema:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfQx4jC5xz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfQx4jC5xz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfQx4jC5xz4
11 July 2017 23:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nutt ajab osati nutu peale, kuid eks sirp on ikka tegelikult sirp... alati olnud, aint vasar on alateadvuses, sus endas olemas,
Algus on muidu veel ju loetav, kuigi "enda jaoks loonud" osa suts oli juba vääresitlust lubav toon:
"Nutt: Leian, et tegemist on v�ga huvitava maailmavaatega, mille Laigna on enda jaoks loonud ja millega v�ib ju tema hinnangul n�ustuda, et see maailmavaade on paljuski p�lu all. Ma ei julge v�ita, et see ilmavaade p�hineb aristokraatial, mis on konservatiivse maailmavaate �ks lahutamatu element ja mis kuulub kahtlemata Einar Laigna maailma. Aga aristokraatlik elulaad on see, mis ei s�ltu ainult inimese tahtest."
Ja siis:
"Nutt: Ideoloogiline propagandafilm, mille �lesandeks pole avada niiv�rd Einar Laigna sisemaailma ja esitada seda kui huvipakkuvat objektiivset maailmavaatelist v��rtuskandjat, vaid mille �lesanne on tegelikult propageerida mingeid maailmavaatelisi l�henemisi. Einar Laigna negatiivseid emotsioone see film ei n�ita. "
ja veel selgemini oma meelestus:
"Nutt: Esiteks, demokraatlikus �hiskonnas ei saa p�stitada k�simust, kas midagi peab v�i tohib kellelegi n�idata. Aga teisalt, kui propagandafilm peaks kellelegi olema �ppematerjal, siis ma vastan, ei, see ei peaks olema �ppematerjal. Aga minu arvamus ei t�henda loomulikult seda, et seda filmi ei tuleks n�idata k�ikidele, kellel on soov seda filmi vaadata. Tunnistan, et ma pole propagandafilmide eriti suur austaja, sest need filmid �ritavad minu m�ttemaailma asendada kellegi v�i millegi teise m�ttemaailmaga. See, kui vastuv�tlik on inimene propagandafilmile, kas linateos asendab m�ttemaailma, see s�ltub v�ga palju inimese iseloomujoontest. Propagandafilmi m�te on tegelikult v�rvata n�rgem �hiskonnaliige, nagu l�litada ta oma ideoloogilisse plaani. "
"Nutt: See film on isamaad pigem ignoreeriv. "
"Nutt: Filmist tuli v�lja suhtumine, et Einar Laigna Eestis s�ndimise ja kasvamise asjaolu on tema traagika. Isamaa on piirang, kammits, mis on tal takistanud p�rgida suuremate v��rtuste poole. Ilma isamaata oleks elu lihtsam ja t�iuslikum. Ja teine kammits, mis v�lja tuleb, on t�nane realiteet. �hest k�ljest �ldeuroopalike v��rtuste r�hutamine ja samas ka pettumus, et see �ldeuroopalik areng ei l�he �ldse selles suunas, mis vastaks Laigna maailmapildile. Prevaleerib spenglerlik arusaam �htumaa allak�igust. See tekitab k�simuse (millele film ei anna kuidagi vastust): milline �ieti siis on see kaasaja maailmapilt, mille poole tuleks p�rgida? Film r��gib, s�na otseses m�ttes v�ga tugevalt r��gib minevikust, kandes ideaali minevikku, aga me k�ik (ka filmi peaosaline ja autor) teame v�ga h�sti, et minevik ei tule kunagi tagasi. Milline on siis see tulevik, mille poole peaksime p�rgima?!"
ja lõpetuseks:
" J. Leppik: See oli roomakatoliku kiriku nn. Tridenti missa, mille pidamise �iguse annab tavaliselt lokaalne piiskop. Aga kuna Einar Laigna pidas seda missat mitte roomakatoliku kiriku nimel, vaid Pius X preestervennaskonna nimel, mis on skismaatiline r�hmitus ja kes on roomakatoliku kirikust ekskommunitseeritud, siis ei ole minu teda Einar Laignal �igust katoliku kirikus Tallinnas, Tartus, P�rnus v�i kus tahes missat pidada. Seep�rast leitaksegi selliseid kohti nagu Niguliste muuseum-kirik v�i Mustpeade vennaskonna hoone. Nii et see katoliiklus, mida Einar Laigna selle missaga esitas, on tegelikult skismaatiline, mida Rooma ei tunnusta. See on filmi �ks paradoks.
Ometi paistis preester Laignal olevat ka sel missal oma kogudus: kaitsev�elased ja intellektuaalse orientatsiooniga tegelased. K�llap on ka �Kutsel Igavesse Linna� ETVs ja kinos S�prus oma poolehoidev vaatajaskond. Eesti on tsensuurivaba liberaalne demokraatlik vabariik. Aga l�petuseks siiski: ma ei saa h�sti aru, miks see film tehti?
Nutt: Sellest ei saa ka mina aru.
J. Leppik: Andke andeks, aga ka mina ei saa aru.
Aga vahest ongi hea, et ei saa. "
http://www.sirp.ee/archive/2004/27.02.04/Film/film1-4.html
Algus on muidu veel ju loetav, kuigi "enda jaoks loonud" osa suts oli juba vääresitlust lubav toon:
"Nutt: Leian, et tegemist on v�ga huvitava maailmavaatega, mille Laigna on enda jaoks loonud ja millega v�ib ju tema hinnangul n�ustuda, et see maailmavaade on paljuski p�lu all. Ma ei julge v�ita, et see ilmavaade p�hineb aristokraatial, mis on konservatiivse maailmavaate �ks lahutamatu element ja mis kuulub kahtlemata Einar Laigna maailma. Aga aristokraatlik elulaad on see, mis ei s�ltu ainult inimese tahtest."
Ja siis:
"Nutt: Ideoloogiline propagandafilm, mille �lesandeks pole avada niiv�rd Einar Laigna sisemaailma ja esitada seda kui huvipakkuvat objektiivset maailmavaatelist v��rtuskandjat, vaid mille �lesanne on tegelikult propageerida mingeid maailmavaatelisi l�henemisi. Einar Laigna negatiivseid emotsioone see film ei n�ita. "
ja veel selgemini oma meelestus:
"Nutt: Esiteks, demokraatlikus �hiskonnas ei saa p�stitada k�simust, kas midagi peab v�i tohib kellelegi n�idata. Aga teisalt, kui propagandafilm peaks kellelegi olema �ppematerjal, siis ma vastan, ei, see ei peaks olema �ppematerjal. Aga minu arvamus ei t�henda loomulikult seda, et seda filmi ei tuleks n�idata k�ikidele, kellel on soov seda filmi vaadata. Tunnistan, et ma pole propagandafilmide eriti suur austaja, sest need filmid �ritavad minu m�ttemaailma asendada kellegi v�i millegi teise m�ttemaailmaga. See, kui vastuv�tlik on inimene propagandafilmile, kas linateos asendab m�ttemaailma, see s�ltub v�ga palju inimese iseloomujoontest. Propagandafilmi m�te on tegelikult v�rvata n�rgem �hiskonnaliige, nagu l�litada ta oma ideoloogilisse plaani. "
"Nutt: See film on isamaad pigem ignoreeriv. "
"Nutt: Filmist tuli v�lja suhtumine, et Einar Laigna Eestis s�ndimise ja kasvamise asjaolu on tema traagika. Isamaa on piirang, kammits, mis on tal takistanud p�rgida suuremate v��rtuste poole. Ilma isamaata oleks elu lihtsam ja t�iuslikum. Ja teine kammits, mis v�lja tuleb, on t�nane realiteet. �hest k�ljest �ldeuroopalike v��rtuste r�hutamine ja samas ka pettumus, et see �ldeuroopalik areng ei l�he �ldse selles suunas, mis vastaks Laigna maailmapildile. Prevaleerib spenglerlik arusaam �htumaa allak�igust. See tekitab k�simuse (millele film ei anna kuidagi vastust): milline �ieti siis on see kaasaja maailmapilt, mille poole tuleks p�rgida? Film r��gib, s�na otseses m�ttes v�ga tugevalt r��gib minevikust, kandes ideaali minevikku, aga me k�ik (ka filmi peaosaline ja autor) teame v�ga h�sti, et minevik ei tule kunagi tagasi. Milline on siis see tulevik, mille poole peaksime p�rgima?!"
ja lõpetuseks:
" J. Leppik: See oli roomakatoliku kiriku nn. Tridenti missa, mille pidamise �iguse annab tavaliselt lokaalne piiskop. Aga kuna Einar Laigna pidas seda missat mitte roomakatoliku kiriku nimel, vaid Pius X preestervennaskonna nimel, mis on skismaatiline r�hmitus ja kes on roomakatoliku kirikust ekskommunitseeritud, siis ei ole minu teda Einar Laignal �igust katoliku kirikus Tallinnas, Tartus, P�rnus v�i kus tahes missat pidada. Seep�rast leitaksegi selliseid kohti nagu Niguliste muuseum-kirik v�i Mustpeade vennaskonna hoone. Nii et see katoliiklus, mida Einar Laigna selle missaga esitas, on tegelikult skismaatiline, mida Rooma ei tunnusta. See on filmi �ks paradoks.
Ometi paistis preester Laignal olevat ka sel missal oma kogudus: kaitsev�elased ja intellektuaalse orientatsiooniga tegelased. K�llap on ka �Kutsel Igavesse Linna� ETVs ja kinos S�prus oma poolehoidev vaatajaskond. Eesti on tsensuurivaba liberaalne demokraatlik vabariik. Aga l�petuseks siiski: ma ei saa h�sti aru, miks see film tehti?
Nutt: Sellest ei saa ka mina aru.
J. Leppik: Andke andeks, aga ka mina ei saa aru.
Aga vahest ongi hea, et ei saa. "
http://www.sirp.ee/archive/2004/27.02.04/Film/film1-4.html
http://www.sirp.ee/archive/2004/27.02.04/Film/film1-4.html
11 July 2017 23:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siit saab ka laenata ja "piraatkoopiat" teha, et inimkonnaga jagada
(milleks see internet loodud on siis, kui vajaliku lihtsamini kättesaadavamaks, selgekstegemiseks)
http://keskraamatukogu.ee/muusika/videoteek/?krk-group=dokumentaal-loodus&krk-page=4
(milleks see internet loodud on siis, kui vajaliku lihtsamini kättesaadavamaks, selgekstegemiseks)
http://keskraamatukogu.ee/muusika/videoteek/?krk-group=dokumentaal-loodus&krk-page=4
http://keskraamatukogu.ee/muusika/videoteek/?krk-group=dokumentaal-loodus&krk-page=4
11 July 2017 22:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi see klipp, veider veider, keelati täis seeriast ära, eraldi signaalina mis Läänest tuli,
See oli aga täitsa lubatud: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJQPr-rZyaY
Seega asjad väga hullud ka veel pole
See oli aga täitsa lubatud: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJQPr-rZyaY
Seega asjad väga hullud ka veel pole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJQPr-rZyaY
11 July 2017 22:49
Margus Meigo commented on Tiit Aleksejev's post.
Peaaasi, et sellist muljet ei jääks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxec5hux-8c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxec5hux-8c
11 July 2017 22:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siin katkend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L4mLUP4W_U
Sõjaväe, usumees, haritlane, konservatiiv, royalist ja räägib energitest ja pendlitest, vaat kus lugu, eksju.
Sõjaväe, usumees, haritlane, konservatiiv, royalist ja räägib energitest ja pendlitest, vaat kus lugu, eksju.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L4mLUP4W_U
11 July 2017 22:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lausa imelisem kui Ime, graafiliselt
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10210076011793562&set=a.10210075993153096.1073741871.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10210076011793562&set=a.10210075993153096.1073741871.1135161043&type=3&theater
11 July 2017 22:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oodake kui Rubla film välja tuleb, kuidas sõjalennukile raha sõnaotseses mõttes kühveldati...
11 July 2017 22:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Jah need ajad.. et tulemata jääks paha ja olema saaks hea
11 July 2017 22:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
Kena, see vana tapeedimeenutus : )11 July 2017 22:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Oh neid põhimõtteid : )
11 July 2017 22:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
11 July 2017 22:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vahest piisab paari olulise lause arusaamist, et oma meelsust, kodumaist hinge päästa
11 July 2017 22:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
üldiselt, mikrofoni kriiskamist ja rögastamist, läbustamist ja kitarri/trummidega lärmitegemist ei seedi, mitmel põhjusel,
kuid Villu Tamme'l mitu ajast ees põhjust, miks nii ainult sai seda salvestatud inimkonnale, kõige muu vahel. Seega, sõnad ise juba lugemist väärt ja siis proovi ette kujutada, mida see tegi noorte teadvuste ja meelsustega, milliseid aluspinde kui poliitikakaugetel inimestel oluliselt see võis paika sättida,
Sõnu ka: https://sasslantis.ee/lyrics.php?artist=32501
kuid Villu Tamme'l mitu ajast ees põhjust, miks nii ainult sai seda salvestatud inimkonnale, kõige muu vahel. Seega, sõnad ise juba lugemist väärt ja siis proovi ette kujutada, mida see tegi noorte teadvuste ja meelsustega, milliseid aluspinde kui poliitikakaugetel inimestel oluliselt see võis paika sättida,
Sõnu ka: https://sasslantis.ee/lyrics.php?artist=32501
https://sasslantis.ee/lyrics.php?artist=32501
11 July 2017 22:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Üks hea tuttav jagas lingi, mille kaudu saab korraga 16 JMKE albumit koos sõnadega alla laadida, otse, ilma torrentita,
kellel soovi, antke teada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gringode_Kultuur
kellel soovi, antke teada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gringode_Kultuur
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gringode_Kultuur
11 July 2017 22:17
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Prits's comment.
See mees on vaimsuse olulisuselt maailmas, reaalselt tähtsamal kohal tõe osas kui Paavst
11 July 2017 22:11
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Prits's comment.
See üks Lihtsamaid selgitusi peaks olema, arusaada elementaarset, (nagu raadiote osas ka siit edasi 4 minutit Laignat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFj8VvEe9to&t=135s )
et see laigna mõte, lainete osas, on ka häma või , kuidas Sulle tundub, huvitav on teada saada minul, väga huvitav, kuidas ja mis osa ja miks hämana tundub ja mis oleks Sama jutu osas vähem "hämalik"
ole hea, tee see pingutus, muidu kommentaari aeg ju kasutu.
et see laigna mõte, lainete osas, on ka häma või , kuidas Sulle tundub, huvitav on teada saada minul, väga huvitav, kuidas ja mis osa ja miks hämana tundub ja mis oleks Sama jutu osas vähem "hämalik"
ole hea, tee see pingutus, muidu kommentaari aeg ju kasutu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFj8VvEe9to&t=135s
11 July 2017 22:10
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Prits's comment.
Marek Prits okey mis osa sellest jutust siis HÄMA oli ja mis osast Sa ei mõistnud, et Lihtsameelsed, olid ja on need, keda ta kirjeldas sääl, need kes asjast aru ei saanud
11 July 2017 22:08
Margus Meigo commented on Bianka Soe's photo.
Tasub siia kohe need neti/artikli lingid / pildid panna,
siis kohe mugavam leida / lugeda
siis kohe mugavam leida / lugeda
11 July 2017 22:05
Margus Meigo commented on Agu Laius's post.
Andreas Õ Kõrgend, Ugru Ugri Kadi ja Taavi Timm kas sellistest suunadest, tundub, et kasvab head seemet ?
11 July 2017 22:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Estonian Airile kunagi 7+ aastat tagasi jäi üle andmata visioon mis vaimust tuli, et nad õhulaevasi tootma hakkaks hoopis.. nu ja kui nad oleks, siis vot see hoopis parem ja kenam lahendus kogu sellele transpordile.
Kuid sellise raudtee tegemine küll ikka liialt robustne tundub, kui siis sõjatööstusele abiks ehk
Kuid sellise raudtee tegemine küll ikka liialt robustne tundub, kui siis sõjatööstusele abiks ehk
11 July 2017 21:50
Margus Meigo commented on Agu Laius's post.
Tõsimeeli, endiselt läbi raba seda ehitada soovitakse, kallates kogu meie kruusavarud sinna, ja kõik muu perversus mis selliste tegudega kaasa pikas plaanis tuleb maapinna täieliku muutmisega ?
11 July 2017 21:47
Margus Meigo commented on Agu Laius's post.
Kui ma, proovides EKRE't nende sünniajal seestpoolt aidata, selgitades, et nad on praegu Keskerakonna/Eriteenistuse kandoom kodumaa /.../ ks. millest saaks vabaneda kui.... ), siis selle abi peale vihastati ja hoopistükkis blokeeriti grupist ära, selgitust ka ei soovitud anda, kuidas ainuüksi eksklusiivne teleaeg TallinnaTV's, kus ühte ja samat riigivastast juttu aetakse, peaks normaalne olema.
Kuid nüüd sellised kokkulepped erakonnaga, kellel omakorda salakokkulepped piiritaguse erakonnaga... no kuulge,
kas sai olla isegi võimalus, et see ei tule välja, nagu ka pereisa varasemad tööd ja poegade upsakad käitumised.
Kuid nüüd sellised kokkulepped erakonnaga, kellel omakorda salakokkulepped piiritaguse erakonnaga... no kuulge,
kas sai olla isegi võimalus, et see ei tule välja, nagu ka pereisa varasemad tööd ja poegade upsakad käitumised.
11 July 2017 21:44
Margus Meigo commented on Agu Laius's post.
Milleks katuserahad siis veel olema peaks,
..ah, asoo, ma mõtlesin, sõna otseses mõttes, keskturu stiilis "katuserahad" ..
..ah, asoo, ma mõtlesin, sõna otseses mõttes, keskturu stiilis "katuserahad" ..
11 July 2017 21:35
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Aasla's photo.
Viisnurgad üldse, popimad kui kunagi varem, terve arvuti, moe, mobiili ja neti maailm neid ka täis, igasuguste vabandustega, et sobib sedasi.
11 July 2017 21:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Gringos is what, in Malaga, they call foreigners who have a certain type of accent that prevents them from speaking Castilian easily and naturally; and in Madrid they give the same name, and for the same reason, in particular to the Irish.[8]
The dominant view among etymologists is that gringo is most likely a variant of griego 'Greek' speech (cf. Greek to me).
A purported problem with this theory is that such usage of "gringo" in Spain had to do with peoples who originated in the eastern Mediterranean, rather than the northern European stock that dominated in the United States. However, the word gringo originated in Spain long before there was a Spanish-speaking Mexico and at one time, the word in Spain was often used to refer specifically to the Irish (at the time, the migrations known as Flight of the Wild Geese brought a constant stream of Irish exiles and mercenaries to Spain). And according to a 1787 dictionary, it often referred to someone who spoke Spanish poorly.[9][10]
It has also been suggested that griego > gringo is phonetically unlikely, because the derivation requires two steps: (i) griego > grigo, and (ii) grigo > gringo. Instead it is claimed that gringo might derive from Caló, the language of the Romani people of Spain, as a variant of (pere)gringo 'peregrine', 'wayfarer', and 'stranger'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gringo
The dominant view among etymologists is that gringo is most likely a variant of griego 'Greek' speech (cf. Greek to me).
A purported problem with this theory is that such usage of "gringo" in Spain had to do with peoples who originated in the eastern Mediterranean, rather than the northern European stock that dominated in the United States. However, the word gringo originated in Spain long before there was a Spanish-speaking Mexico and at one time, the word in Spain was often used to refer specifically to the Irish (at the time, the migrations known as Flight of the Wild Geese brought a constant stream of Irish exiles and mercenaries to Spain). And according to a 1787 dictionary, it often referred to someone who spoke Spanish poorly.[9][10]
It has also been suggested that griego > gringo is phonetically unlikely, because the derivation requires two steps: (i) griego > grigo, and (ii) grigo > gringo. Instead it is claimed that gringo might derive from Caló, the language of the Romani people of Spain, as a variant of (pere)gringo 'peregrine', 'wayfarer', and 'stranger'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gringo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gringo
11 July 2017 21:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu usun nii vähemasti
11 July 2017 20:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Ecclesia militans - võitlev Kirik
( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment )https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment
11 July 2017 18:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et kes seda siis arvas ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment
11 July 2017 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
@Meelis Vesi "" Laboratoorsetes tingimustes esilekutsutud usulistele kogemustele on võimalik ette heita kunstlikkust ja ebaehtsust ""
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11 July 2017 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
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Ei11 July 2017 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's album.
nu õige maamees helikpteriga paneb paadi paika
11 July 2017 17:58
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
kas see FAA doc ka oluline ja miks? ja kes Su tutvuses need kellelt siiralt, kinlamalt ka tarke vastuseid saaksid selle FAA otsuse ja kogu ümbritseva olukorra osas, kus ta kosmose ( mida osad usuvad mitte olemas olema, ) transporti maailmade ja planeet maa vahel majandama soovib hakata ning kogu ilmamaa suurimad veidrad lennuinfod lennukeskusest otse temale teadetena tulevad, edaspidi enamuses otse.
Mis moodi reaalne, selline haare nii kiiresti ja märkamatult on inimesel valitsuste üle
selle osas mille osas nad eelnevalt suurt tööd on teinud ,et authoriteeti ja sõnaõigust ainuomanikuna hoida, antakse näiliselt kõrvalisele era inimesele.. koos kaitsega muude tuleviku korporatiivsete kokulepete osas mis ta vastu langeda võivad, maal, kuul või kosmoses. Valitsuse piires kaitset, ette lubada sedasi, peab ikka sõralik mees olema,
ja tundub ka, sõbralik
Mis moodi reaalne, selline haare nii kiiresti ja märkamatult on inimesel valitsuste üle
selle osas mille osas nad eelnevalt suurt tööd on teinud ,et authoriteeti ja sõnaõigust ainuomanikuna hoida, antakse näiliselt kõrvalisele era inimesele.. koos kaitsega muude tuleviku korporatiivsete kokulepete osas mis ta vastu langeda võivad, maal, kuul või kosmoses. Valitsuse piires kaitset, ette lubada sedasi, peab ikka sõralik mees olema,
ja tundub ka, sõbralik
11 July 2017 17:13
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
kui mis arvata ise see selleks, mis muidu sellest mehest arvad ja tema olukorrast, täiskasvanud inimesena, kirjuta lühikokuvõte miks nii räägib ja tarkust juurde veel, miks nii arvad ja mõistlik on, mis arvatav tõde on seda kuulates, miks ta seda teeb,
proovime palun, oleks abiks ja hea, meeldiv lugeda, ka nii, et targad lapsed aru saaks
proovime palun, oleks abiks ja hea, meeldiv lugeda, ka nii, et targad lapsed aru saaks
11 July 2017 17:09
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Ega siis selle järgi mis näed tasu kohe ka uskuma hakata, kogemine jubaomamoodi... kuid, eks turvalisem on aksepteerida, ja mitte näha kuni vaja pole
kuid arvestada selle kõigega juba parimasse võimalikku tasandisse, mis olla saab, võib, võib olla, sellepõhjal mis teame, oleme kuulnud või vanadest piiblilugudestki peaks miinimumtasemena aksepteeritav olema , kui veel usuga, ristiga, ristiusuga või vaimuilma olemasolu teaduvstada reaaalse intellektuaalse elusa või poolautomaatse meie maailmale, osadele silmadele veelnähtamatu struktuurina, mis meie lihast elu saab või peab juhtima, mõjutama või koguni selle omanik või sellele sisse tundija, nii vaimses, filosoogfilises, poliitilises, kehalises, keemialises, organismilises, kuid ilmsgelt esimesena itellektuaalsel / filosoofilisel, teadmiste/uskumuste tasemel, mis aksepteeritavaks teeb teatud sorti korraldused mis siis võimaldavad igale kokkupuutele head või vampiirlust või korrapärast toimimist milliste iganes kokkupuudete kombinatsioonidega, selles suunas, mis kogu ilma puhastumiseni viib ja mis muudele õigessuunas piisavas liikuvatele arusaadav peaksolema peale omavahelist kerget selgitust ja kokkujäämist, nõusolekus ja teadmises, mida neil lõppudelõpuks mõlemal vaja : jõuda selleni et hea teha paremaks ja kasulikuse vastane muuta heale kasulikumaks
kuid arvestada selle kõigega juba parimasse võimalikku tasandisse, mis olla saab, võib, võib olla, sellepõhjal mis teame, oleme kuulnud või vanadest piiblilugudestki peaks miinimumtasemena aksepteeritav olema , kui veel usuga, ristiga, ristiusuga või vaimuilma olemasolu teaduvstada reaaalse intellektuaalse elusa või poolautomaatse meie maailmale, osadele silmadele veelnähtamatu struktuurina, mis meie lihast elu saab või peab juhtima, mõjutama või koguni selle omanik või sellele sisse tundija, nii vaimses, filosoogfilises, poliitilises, kehalises, keemialises, organismilises, kuid ilmsgelt esimesena itellektuaalsel / filosoofilisel, teadmiste/uskumuste tasemel, mis aksepteeritavaks teeb teatud sorti korraldused mis siis võimaldavad igale kokkupuutele head või vampiirlust või korrapärast toimimist milliste iganes kokkupuudete kombinatsioonidega, selles suunas, mis kogu ilma puhastumiseni viib ja mis muudele õigessuunas piisavas liikuvatele arusaadav peaksolema peale omavahelist kerget selgitust ja kokkujäämist, nõusolekus ja teadmises, mida neil lõppudelõpuks mõlemal vaja : jõuda selleni et hea teha paremaks ja kasulikuse vastane muuta heale kasulikumaks
11 July 2017 17:06
Margus Meigo commented on Minna Hint's photo.
Hoiab pead korralikult! : )
11 July 2017 16:57
Margus Meigo commented on Taavi Timm's photo.
Ka Squottisid ?
11 July 2017 16:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
+ lause lõpp,
panebselle sätib,seobsõlme otsa, varsti aeg, lihviks, praegu veel kastan suts, raputan muid õunu juurde,
kuni veel kanalid kättesaadavamad on // kui meelest läinud mõne asjaselgitus hoopiski ja poolik lahtine lõpp liialt, mida uurida võiks siis loomulikult tasub ka seda iga nurgaalt uurida mis mõistlik, kuid kindlasti ainult mitte arvata, et ainult parim vastus ja lahendus alati tuleb, sellegi arvates kes lahduseni tuleb või selle meelde tuletab
panebselle sätib,seobsõlme otsa, varsti aeg, lihviks, praegu veel kastan suts, raputan muid õunu juurde,
kuni veel kanalid kättesaadavamad on // kui meelest läinud mõne asjaselgitus hoopiski ja poolik lahtine lõpp liialt, mida uurida võiks siis loomulikult tasub ka seda iga nurgaalt uurida mis mõistlik, kuid kindlasti ainult mitte arvata, et ainult parim vastus ja lahendus alati tuleb, sellegi arvates kes lahduseni tuleb või selle meelde tuletab
11 July 2017 16:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(/hingan, /)
11 July 2017 16:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Taavi Timm kui minu jagatud materialeka silmaspead, siis ega nad kõikpruugi issandast head olla, kuid selle tarvis,et hea oleks, eri olukordades, kord ülalt alla, kord alt ülesse ,kord proovides piiri hoida ja kord piirinurgal rippudes, siia ikka üritan koguda seda mis saaks ajas aegsasti aeglaselt kui ka kiiresti kasutada, või mida järgmise sajandi 24'nda aasta aegaski, oleks kasuks mingusuguste sündmuste suuna ja tunnete määramiseks / klaarimiseks,
Eriti kui muud vajalikud teod sinnamaale jõuavad, et mitmetele muudele meeltele arusaamise kihid ja seletused, pildid, filmid, programmid, seminarid, näitused, etendused,saated ehmatused ja vägisi osadele mõistuse pähe panemise tagajärjel läbi loodusrohtude arusaadavamaks muutub, see ilmapilt ausaks alandlikumaks ja julgemaks nii piibli enda kui ka tegeliku riigikaitse ja globaalsete turvajate suhtes
Eriti kui muud vajalikud teod sinnamaale jõuavad, et mitmetele muudele meeltele arusaamise kihid ja seletused, pildid, filmid, programmid, seminarid, näitused, etendused,saated ehmatused ja vägisi osadele mõistuse pähe panemise tagajärjel läbi loodusrohtude arusaadavamaks muutub, see ilmapilt ausaks alandlikumaks ja julgemaks nii piibli enda kui ka tegeliku riigikaitse ja globaalsete turvajate suhtes
11 July 2017 16:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
jamitte ainlt tähtedega teeip venita, vaid tegudega ka selleosas mida räägite või mõista annate et sooviksite uskuda kui vaid saaks...
aga kuidas siis veel saab kui tehes usus,seda mida hea
ja pidevalt proovides avatud olla, muudele teelistele kes soovivad kaarusaada lisa mooduseid parima tegemiseks, kellel soovi oma jagada ja teise heaga kaasa siduda
aga kuidas siis veel saab kui tehes usus,seda mida hea
ja pidevalt proovides avatud olla, muudele teelistele kes soovivad kaarusaada lisa mooduseid parima tegemiseks, kellel soovi oma jagada ja teise heaga kaasa siduda
11 July 2017 16:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
panimajesh?
11 July 2017 16:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid, et siis, see märge veel, et:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212267434977772&set=a.2900819196304.2143993.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212267434977772&set=a.2900819196304.2143993.1135161043&type=3&theater
11 July 2017 16:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mine to (in english)
11 July 2017 16:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vanarahva iroonia ja tarkus nii kena oli, et tänapäeva ajalehtedes see tavaloona tundub,ja lõpp lausa segadusse osadele jääb kes pool lugu juba kaasa noogutama kiskus, kergendusega, ärevuses, ... ja siis sedasi, ilusti lõpetuseks öeldud,
et viisnurka proovida seostada heaga või veelgi ENAM, Eesti Jumalike suurustega, selleks mitte lihtsalt pole alust, vaid puudub VÄHEM kui alus.
Vot kus, pole siis ime, et tagasihodlikusest keegi vanamees kuskil külas ennast nimpidi tuntuks ei tahnud saadasäärase tarkuse ilmutuse läbi tolleste lihtteadmatude seas, kes viienurgalisetarkuse omakvõtul suht vastumeelsed või lausa targalt kõhklevad tolle heasoovlikuses
et viisnurka proovida seostada heaga või veelgi ENAM, Eesti Jumalike suurustega, selleks mitte lihtsalt pole alust, vaid puudub VÄHEM kui alus.
Vot kus, pole siis ime, et tagasihodlikusest keegi vanamees kuskil külas ennast nimpidi tuntuks ei tahnud saadasäärase tarkuse ilmutuse läbi tolleste lihtteadmatude seas, kes viienurgalisetarkuse omakvõtul suht vastumeelsed või lausa targalt kõhklevad tolle heasoovlikuses
11 July 2017 16:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
11 July 2017 16:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"kaste" kui eri pildi, info ja arusaamade material, eelsuunatud psüholoogilised, seaduslikud ja eelplaneeritud tulevilikulised olukorrad ja tagasivaated uute teadmiste läbi uutes oletavates, planeeritud ja arvatavates (olemasolevates, arenevates) vaatevinklites, kultuurides
ja kõik sõna otseses mõttes loomulikult ka tähendab seda sama, sest ka piibli osas, vaja sõna otseses mõttes kõigepealt alustuseks aru saada, mida kogu asja kontekst sona otseses mõttes kokku tähendada saab ja Võib, enne metafooride ja oletuste ga oma lünki välja vabandama asudes ja agendadega sidumist
ja kõik sõna otseses mõttes loomulikult ka tähendab seda sama, sest ka piibli osas, vaja sõna otseses mõttes kõigepealt alustuseks aru saada, mida kogu asja kontekst sona otseses mõttes kokku tähendada saab ja Võib, enne metafooride ja oletuste ga oma lünki välja vabandama asudes ja agendadega sidumist
11 July 2017 15:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ehksiis lihtsalt normaalse tavalikuse ülesvõtmine,
teatud keskme suuna ja pildi hoidmiseks ja konteksti määramiseks,
mitte, et oleks oluline mis kastmes kartul on, kartuli hea maitse tarvis, ikka kartul hea olema peab, kuid kaste ka, saab lõpuks ikkagi määravaks kui olematu kaste muutub üksluiseks ja siis kellegi vale kaste võib lausa omakord,a olenemata kui hea kartuliliigigi koos isuga hoopis muuks keerata kui eel väljapandud kastmevarjandid, ja nende vahest kesiste kastmete sisu ideaalse suuna kirjeldused,
et esimene upgrade toimiks nendes eelplaneeritud suundades, sellise astme võrra, vähemalt, enne arusaamist, mis toit on ja kuhu suunas,mis lisandeid üldse oleks sobilik juurde pookida
// kartul kui mõte või tehnoloogia või käitumis, arengu vorm ja inimese enda hinge kese
teatud keskme suuna ja pildi hoidmiseks ja konteksti määramiseks,
mitte, et oleks oluline mis kastmes kartul on, kartuli hea maitse tarvis, ikka kartul hea olema peab, kuid kaste ka, saab lõpuks ikkagi määravaks kui olematu kaste muutub üksluiseks ja siis kellegi vale kaste võib lausa omakord,a olenemata kui hea kartuliliigigi koos isuga hoopis muuks keerata kui eel väljapandud kastmevarjandid, ja nende vahest kesiste kastmete sisu ideaalse suuna kirjeldused,
et esimene upgrade toimiks nendes eelplaneeritud suundades, sellise astme võrra, vähemalt, enne arusaamist, mis toit on ja kuhu suunas,mis lisandeid üldse oleks sobilik juurde pookida
// kartul kui mõte või tehnoloogia või käitumis, arengu vorm ja inimese enda hinge kese
11 July 2017 15:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tegu kõigelew muuks oli see ammune, aastaid tagasi vene intel võrkudest tulnud EU idee, kus EU hakkab kõigile paarsada eurot maksma,
lisaks, seda muidugi teatud sorti elektroonikaga isegi saab teha ja tekitada hoopis muud moodi, numbreid tektiades,
sest kõik tuleb ju Sinu enda poolt hallatud kesksüsteemi tagasi. Eriti kui elektrooniline raha siis ei saagi kaduda kuskile,
vaid jääb alati sedasi, et inimene füüsilise teona tegi midagi, mille eest sai mitte midagi, mille eest sai kellegilt midagi mida keegi füüsilisetöö ja vaevaga päris materialist tegema, kasvatama ja kohale tooma pidi,
ehki jah, kui robotid omaarust suure osa sellest tööst ka üle võtavad,
ja inimesed endiselt saavad konaniku palka. mida siis nad oma kasuliku aja ja tegevusega tegema hakkavad?
// enne kasutatakse suurt hulka orjatööd ülla eesmärgi nimel, aga see selleks, oeletame, et see SEE kordne sots plaan läheb läbi ja toob, kannab vilja ja hoiaks ning hakkaks ennast välja vedama sinnamaani kuni robotid saavad siis nö inimesele ebavajaliku töö ära teha, ja kõik muu ka mis käepärane, mida keegi programeerib ja rakendab, ega siis suniviisiliselt kedagi trenni ega tegema tol ajal enam panda, ega saa, eksju? Sellega poleks keegi enamus ju nõus... Nii... (/Link: "real communism..falukre... again again again" /)
// loomulikult on MUL plaan, mida inimesed siis oma vaba jaaga teha saaks, sooviks ja kuidas seda selgitad,a õpetad,a tõestada, et neile endile see meeldiks ja parem oleks,
iga generatsiooniga rohkem, // see selleks, muu tarkus oli kirjutada siia, kuid küll meelde tuleb, kuid enemastiteaks ikka, paljud suudaks ju, lihtsalt ma arvesse võtan veel mitut asja, mida suuremal osadel tarkadest kes palju muud kasulikku valida oskavad, .. neil osad asjad integreeritud saaks ebaõilsalt, hingeväliselt, kui nad pole vaevunud tagasihoidlikusega psühedeelse ja usu filtrite kaudu, traditsioonilistele pahadele vastanduva läätsedega, enamusi neid meeme (meem) ja noortekultuure, inimkäitumisi läbi vaadata, nende endi oletavaima jumalapoolseima postsiooni läbi, mõlemapoole vastandi jumalapoolse tipuna alustuseks, ja arvestades nii ennast kui ka neid, neid positiivsemas mõttes kui enid /.../
// see kehtib vast muidugi pigem pool inimeste osas (kes ihaldavad päris inimeste paradiisi armastusega ligi hoida), ja need kellel küll suurvõimed kuid kelle täius on naturaalsuse keskmest piisavalt väljas, et ei saa nõuda ennast keskmesuunana, vaid äärmisel juhul kskme suuna suunajana neile kes keskme suuna täpsemast vajalikusest hoolivad, seda selgelt oma tegutsemise selgitustes igalajal väites /selleeest alati seistes/ always devoted/
// ja endiselt ma olen rahul et mingite asjade tõlkimine, ilma inimabita, saab olla meiekeele konarlikus kirjutamisest veelgi raskem ja arusaadavam neile kes aeglaselt arusaada soovivad või linnulennult kinnitust soovivad
lisaks, seda muidugi teatud sorti elektroonikaga isegi saab teha ja tekitada hoopis muud moodi, numbreid tektiades,
sest kõik tuleb ju Sinu enda poolt hallatud kesksüsteemi tagasi. Eriti kui elektrooniline raha siis ei saagi kaduda kuskile,
vaid jääb alati sedasi, et inimene füüsilise teona tegi midagi, mille eest sai mitte midagi, mille eest sai kellegilt midagi mida keegi füüsilisetöö ja vaevaga päris materialist tegema, kasvatama ja kohale tooma pidi,
ehki jah, kui robotid omaarust suure osa sellest tööst ka üle võtavad,
ja inimesed endiselt saavad konaniku palka. mida siis nad oma kasuliku aja ja tegevusega tegema hakkavad?
// enne kasutatakse suurt hulka orjatööd ülla eesmärgi nimel, aga see selleks, oeletame, et see SEE kordne sots plaan läheb läbi ja toob, kannab vilja ja hoiaks ning hakkaks ennast välja vedama sinnamaani kuni robotid saavad siis nö inimesele ebavajaliku töö ära teha, ja kõik muu ka mis käepärane, mida keegi programeerib ja rakendab, ega siis suniviisiliselt kedagi trenni ega tegema tol ajal enam panda, ega saa, eksju? Sellega poleks keegi enamus ju nõus... Nii... (/Link: "real communism..falukre... again again again" /)
// loomulikult on MUL plaan, mida inimesed siis oma vaba jaaga teha saaks, sooviks ja kuidas seda selgitad,a õpetad,a tõestada, et neile endile see meeldiks ja parem oleks,
iga generatsiooniga rohkem, // see selleks, muu tarkus oli kirjutada siia, kuid küll meelde tuleb, kuid enemastiteaks ikka, paljud suudaks ju, lihtsalt ma arvesse võtan veel mitut asja, mida suuremal osadel tarkadest kes palju muud kasulikku valida oskavad, .. neil osad asjad integreeritud saaks ebaõilsalt, hingeväliselt, kui nad pole vaevunud tagasihoidlikusega psühedeelse ja usu filtrite kaudu, traditsioonilistele pahadele vastanduva läätsedega, enamusi neid meeme (meem) ja noortekultuure, inimkäitumisi läbi vaadata, nende endi oletavaima jumalapoolseima postsiooni läbi, mõlemapoole vastandi jumalapoolse tipuna alustuseks, ja arvestades nii ennast kui ka neid, neid positiivsemas mõttes kui enid /.../
// see kehtib vast muidugi pigem pool inimeste osas (kes ihaldavad päris inimeste paradiisi armastusega ligi hoida), ja need kellel küll suurvõimed kuid kelle täius on naturaalsuse keskmest piisavalt väljas, et ei saa nõuda ennast keskmesuunana, vaid äärmisel juhul kskme suuna suunajana neile kes keskme suuna täpsemast vajalikusest hoolivad, seda selgelt oma tegutsemise selgitustes igalajal väites /selleeest alati seistes/ always devoted/
// ja endiselt ma olen rahul et mingite asjade tõlkimine, ilma inimabita, saab olla meiekeele konarlikus kirjutamisest veelgi raskem ja arusaadavam neile kes aeglaselt arusaada soovivad või linnulennult kinnitust soovivad
11 July 2017 15:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
#r2'e kosmose wonderwomen st
keda lodame, et riiklikul muul tasemel ei kuritarvitatud nõiduse kinnitamiseks vaid sisemiste naiste kaitsmiseks veelgi suuremate ja raskemate tehnoloogiate eest, mis sisemised iimesed nõusse paneks tulevikuliste riigiraadio mõtte, hinge kaotamisega, jättes välismaailmale mõnede aastate pärast mulje, nagu see oleks sama asi mis iga teine asi mis raadiost kuskil maal tuleb, et kena ja viiskas ja poliitiliselt korrektne enamasti... // aga Meie riigi süsteemide suund, on alati olnud tagasihoidlik ja kõrge rojaalsusega viisakus, mahedas ning meeldivalt kõrges iroonia paketis, kui vaja, ettevaatlikuse ja ettenägelikusega, julgelt riskides või siis siiralt mitte kartes, austust ja väärikust tunnetades, enese maa teadvuse põhinärvisoontele kasulikuna kaasa aidates
keda lodame, et riiklikul muul tasemel ei kuritarvitatud nõiduse kinnitamiseks vaid sisemiste naiste kaitsmiseks veelgi suuremate ja raskemate tehnoloogiate eest, mis sisemised iimesed nõusse paneks tulevikuliste riigiraadio mõtte, hinge kaotamisega, jättes välismaailmale mõnede aastate pärast mulje, nagu see oleks sama asi mis iga teine asi mis raadiost kuskil maal tuleb, et kena ja viiskas ja poliitiliselt korrektne enamasti... // aga Meie riigi süsteemide suund, on alati olnud tagasihoidlik ja kõrge rojaalsusega viisakus, mahedas ning meeldivalt kõrges iroonia paketis, kui vaja, ettevaatlikuse ja ettenägelikusega, julgelt riskides või siis siiralt mitte kartes, austust ja väärikust tunnetades, enese maa teadvuse põhinärvisoontele kasulikuna kaasa aidates
11 July 2017 15:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
olenemata mu kellaajast, näitab ta nüüd kella kolmeseid pärastlõunaseid uudiseid, seega ..
Kuigi mu kell alles saab kolm..
Kokkuvõtvalt:
// siis enne, näidates arvuti kella järgi kella 23:00 st saadet, audio tuli aga teisest saatest // siis täistunnil tuli aga õige aeg weebi tagasi,
seega kui sellised virvendused tunduvad olema,
eriti kui kahtlast äri juttu aetakseeetris, või muud propakandat,
siis tausb alati meedia kanaleid ka tulevikus kontrollida,
me peame elementaarsete kodanikudena, olema täielikult vabalt teadlikult pidevalt, et riigi meedia kanalitest ,tohib ja saab ainult normaalsust tulla, v.a. juhtudel kus ajutiselt lastakse midagi veidrat, et siis sedaselgitavasse vormi, õpetuseks kuulajatele panna.
Siinkohal reaalset häiret polnud muud, kui weebilehe väike klitsh ja eetrist tuleva saate, meeste mõttemaailma täielik mitte sobivus tarkade inimeste kanalisse, muuks kui nende enda naruvääristamiseks,
mis see uus WonderWomen vikeris, kas ta neid taolisi mehi paika ei soovi panna enne ja peale eetris olemsit ?
Et siis teavad, kui puukallistajatekallal siin ilkuma hakkavad, meelega kaasaaidates Kurjuse agendale, teades, et asi polnud ju lihtsalt esiteks suvalises puus vaid:
reaalses jõukatsumises äri poliitilised maafia huvid koos väljapressimisega vs. päris inimeste potensiaal enda kodukohta kaitsta
mille suunalised potensiaalid eelinflatreeriti igasuguste planeeritud püüete ärahoidmiseks ja läbikukutamiseks, läbi osati luure tasemel toimetamise kaasamisega,
tänapäevakorporatiivsed huvid koos meedia PR spetsalistidega, on täiesti halastamatult nõus endale sisse ostma erinevat inteligentsi või poliitilisi kokkuleppeid tegema millise iganes tasemini, koostöö tõestamise väljapressimiseks.
Isegi kui on vaja näidata, et Sa elusa armastatud olendi tänaval süüdimatu redsidivismiga likvideerid ja siis puhtalt ära kõnnid koos kõikidele kahju tegemisega kes seda hukka mõistsid ning veel selle kõigega teenida tulevikus, või ka koheselt aidates hoopis muuna näivate seaduste rakendamiseni mis vaenlaste kasuks kellegilt kaitse eri olukordades kergemini likvideeriks või puutumatuse nende poolt valitud isikutele kergemini tekitaks
Kuigi mu kell alles saab kolm..
Kokkuvõtvalt:
// siis enne, näidates arvuti kella järgi kella 23:00 st saadet, audio tuli aga teisest saatest // siis täistunnil tuli aga õige aeg weebi tagasi,
seega kui sellised virvendused tunduvad olema,
eriti kui kahtlast äri juttu aetakseeetris, või muud propakandat,
siis tausb alati meedia kanaleid ka tulevikus kontrollida,
me peame elementaarsete kodanikudena, olema täielikult vabalt teadlikult pidevalt, et riigi meedia kanalitest ,tohib ja saab ainult normaalsust tulla, v.a. juhtudel kus ajutiselt lastakse midagi veidrat, et siis sedaselgitavasse vormi, õpetuseks kuulajatele panna.
Siinkohal reaalset häiret polnud muud, kui weebilehe väike klitsh ja eetrist tuleva saate, meeste mõttemaailma täielik mitte sobivus tarkade inimeste kanalisse, muuks kui nende enda naruvääristamiseks,
mis see uus WonderWomen vikeris, kas ta neid taolisi mehi paika ei soovi panna enne ja peale eetris olemsit ?
Et siis teavad, kui puukallistajatekallal siin ilkuma hakkavad, meelega kaasaaidates Kurjuse agendale, teades, et asi polnud ju lihtsalt esiteks suvalises puus vaid:
reaalses jõukatsumises äri poliitilised maafia huvid koos väljapressimisega vs. päris inimeste potensiaal enda kodukohta kaitsta
mille suunalised potensiaalid eelinflatreeriti igasuguste planeeritud püüete ärahoidmiseks ja läbikukutamiseks, läbi osati luure tasemel toimetamise kaasamisega,
tänapäevakorporatiivsed huvid koos meedia PR spetsalistidega, on täiesti halastamatult nõus endale sisse ostma erinevat inteligentsi või poliitilisi kokkuleppeid tegema millise iganes tasemini, koostöö tõestamise väljapressimiseks.
Isegi kui on vaja näidata, et Sa elusa armastatud olendi tänaval süüdimatu redsidivismiga likvideerid ja siis puhtalt ära kõnnid koos kõikidele kahju tegemisega kes seda hukka mõistsid ning veel selle kõigega teenida tulevikus, või ka koheselt aidates hoopis muuna näivate seaduste rakendamiseni mis vaenlaste kasuks kellegilt kaitse eri olukordades kergemini likvideeriks või puutumatuse nende poolt valitud isikutele kergemini tekitaks
11 July 2017 15:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// aa okey see oli Helme saade, seekord, polnud vale, temal ongi need sellised lipslaste ärimeeste, müüme kõik maha meeste eetrisse kutsumise komme
Kuid mul kellaajajärgi näitas ikkagi saate all hoopis muud pealkirja
// kuna mul kellaaeg on teine,
Muidugi, siis tuleb järgmine mõistatus, kuidas ta siis teist saadet näita nimes ja õige heli tuleb audios, (see ka mis ETV2 neti ja teleka audiost) Kuid saate nimi, on tekstis muu,
Ja kui see, on seletatav, siis kuidas ta aktiivseid kuulajaid sedasi lampi näitabki, siis kas see tuleb reaalsest audiost, see number või oli see ka tolle eelmise saate külge kleebitud,
kudi tehes nüüd refressi, värskendust...
läheb asi kindlasti veelgi veidramaks sest /reply/
Kuid mul kellaajajärgi näitas ikkagi saate all hoopis muud pealkirja
// kuna mul kellaaeg on teine,
Muidugi, siis tuleb järgmine mõistatus, kuidas ta siis teist saadet näita nimes ja õige heli tuleb audios, (see ka mis ETV2 neti ja teleka audiost) Kuid saate nimi, on tekstis muu,
Ja kui see, on seletatav, siis kuidas ta aktiivseid kuulajaid sedasi lampi näitabki, siis kas see tuleb reaalsest audiost, see number või oli see ka tolle eelmise saate külge kleebitud,
kudi tehes nüüd refressi, värskendust...
läheb asi kindlasti veelgi veidramaks sest /reply/
11 July 2017 15:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nüüd nagu veel siis aeti ja solgiti kogu #emapuu #emapaju teema ära, kasutades pealiskaudset tavapärast, ARTIFICIAL pseudo kujundit, mis on TEADA, et loodi, aga polnud Reaalne ega algne, et see meelega LOODI NENDE POOLT kes seda likvideerida soovis .
// siis veel
"robotid tulevad võtavad Su töö ära"
kuid eelkõige räägivad muuseas, et "rahal pole rahvust" // siis nagu panevad, eestit RONGI KINDLUSTADA, et saada "kodanikupalka" ehk enda fosforiidi, põlevkivi ja puude likvideerimisega kindlustada endale orjapalk ja... siin museas pasiivse tuluga .. selle asja promomine... mida neile hinge kommaritele müügiga kaasa täi (nende pasiivne tului tekib ka agendina koos omasuguste vahel koos pläma ajada, omasuguste keelvõrgustikus millega meedias kuvandit luuakse.... )
"kodaniku palk.... seda promovad muuseas"
// raske töö prmo panevad ka sisse, muuseas, et kellegile ei jääks muljet, et pasiiivse tulu asi neid kergtulu omajateks võiks muljena jätta..
// siis veel
"robotid tulevad võtavad Su töö ära"
kuid eelkõige räägivad muuseas, et "rahal pole rahvust" // siis nagu panevad, eestit RONGI KINDLUSTADA, et saada "kodanikupalka" ehk enda fosforiidi, põlevkivi ja puude likvideerimisega kindlustada endale orjapalk ja... siin museas pasiivse tuluga .. selle asja promomine... mida neile hinge kommaritele müügiga kaasa täi (nende pasiivne tului tekib ka agendina koos omasuguste vahel koos pläma ajada, omasuguste keelvõrgustikus millega meedias kuvandit luuakse.... )
"kodaniku palk.... seda promovad muuseas"
// raske töö prmo panevad ka sisse, muuseas, et kellegile ei jääks muljet, et pasiiivse tulu asi neid kergtulu omajateks võiks muljena jätta..
11 July 2017 14:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and all that whit Lucy
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212427445977947&set=a.10212427391936596.1073741884.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212427445977947&set=a.10212427391936596.1073741884.1135161043&type=3&theater
11 July 2017 12:41
Margus Meigo commented on Martina Hoffmann's post.
Allar Kaljundi
can you imagine, this sunshine night and the plants
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212427396536711&set=a.10212427391936596.1073741884.1135161043&type=3&theater
can you imagine, this sunshine night and the plants
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212427396536711&set=a.10212427391936596.1073741884.1135161043&type=3&theater
11 July 2017 12:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
ma laon nii ja püsib!
11 July 2017 12:11
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's photo.
Wau!
( Ja ma alguses vaatasin, et president )
( Ja ma alguses vaatasin, et president )
11 July 2017 11:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
we love apple, Royal apple,
(from what half, also we left to the Nature )
(from what half, also we left to the Nature )
11 July 2017 04:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
No Fish was eaten on this picture session. Brothers do not eat fish.
11 July 2017 04:01
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Krõõt Volar's photo.
Wau kus on vaade : )
11 July 2017 01:11
Margus Meigo commented on Maret Meigo's post.
11 July 2017 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on Antra Celmiņa's post.
Jeerum Jeerum...
Oleks, et need inimesed sooviks jätkusuutliku normaalsust siis nii enda kui teiste elusse, ausalt ja rahulikult, kuid olles mitme selle komuuniga kokku puutunud, aktivismi aegades, võin öelda, et sellest on asi kaugel
Oleks, et need inimesed sooviks jätkusuutliku normaalsust siis nii enda kui teiste elusse, ausalt ja rahulikult, kuid olles mitme selle komuuniga kokku puutunud, aktivismi aegades, võin öelda, et sellest on asi kaugel
11 July 2017 01:01
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Meigo's post.
Karule tule natukene alati jätta, muidu võtavad rohkem kui soovid.
Muidu karude osas, Metsallik Tarmo Jaanisk / Metsallk Jaanika teab vast aidata (Paradiisi Mesila), nadmaal metsas paljude tarudega mitu põlve hakkama saanud.
Muidu karude osas, Metsallik Tarmo Jaanisk / Metsallk Jaanika teab vast aidata (Paradiisi Mesila), nadmaal metsas paljude tarudega mitu põlve hakkama saanud.
11 July 2017 00:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muidugi uudis oleks, kui vastupidi on
10 July 2017 16:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Siin ka nobelist juttu,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb#Ig_Nobel_Prize_awards
kuna salastatud aktiivne programm siis ainult "theoretical" tohib öelda, koos jutuga, et ei läinud käiku,
kuid eriti skandaali tekitavad asjad tehaksegi riigi huvides selliselt, et avalikult keeldutakse ja siis saadetakse rahastus muud kaudu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb#Ig_Nobel_Prize_awards
kuna salastatud aktiivne programm siis ainult "theoretical" tohib öelda, koos jutuga, et ei läinud käiku,
kuid eriti skandaali tekitavad asjad tehaksegi riigi huvides selliselt, et avalikult keeldutakse ja siis saadetakse rahastus muud kaudu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb#Ig_Nobel_Prize_awards
8 July 2017 00:24
Margus Meigo commented on Seiklejate Vennaskond's link.
Kindlasti on ka huvitav teada, kas inimesed eri komuunidest, on ka solvatud kui sõjavägi lisaks mitmele muule organisatsioonile, tegeleb tehnoloogiatega mis inimesed gay's pööravad, õhu-kemikaalide kaudu.
Noobeli preemia isegi saadi ühe strateegia eest mida kutsutakse "gay pommiks "
http://www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/chemical-warfare/military-proposed-gay-bomb/644286770001
Noobeli preemia isegi saadi ühe strateegia eest mida kutsutakse "gay pommiks "
http://www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/chemical-warfare/military-proposed-gay-bomb/644286770001
http://www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/chemical-warfare/military-proposed-gay-bomb/644286770001
8 July 2017 00:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Read and Understand the basic meaning of the text, next to the video,
to understand the special , unique position this man ison
to understand the special , unique position this man ison
7 July 2017 22:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(postituste tuleviku skeem ja ajareaalsuste vaheliste uste suhltuse scräp skeem / basic)
7 July 2017 22:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja veel, et : https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212277428707609
7 July 2017 22:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sisaliku nali: https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212334529095083
7 July 2017 22:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See lugu, oli ka Eesti paberkandja ajalehes,
kuid isegi lehe uudishimulikud lugejad, ei teadnud, seda märgata
Selle postituse osas
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212069360426032
kuid isegi lehe uudishimulikud lugejad, ei teadnud, seda märgata
Selle postituse osas
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212069360426032
7 July 2017 22:12
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Ses osas, ütlesid, et "rigi poolt"
Kunama suur kodu riigi armastaja, siis isiklikult võtsin igaksjuhuks :p
(sest teame ju,et nendega tehakse, rohkem kui nad ise tahaks paha teha)
Kunama suur kodu riigi armastaja, siis isiklikult võtsin igaksjuhuks :p
(sest teame ju,et nendega tehakse, rohkem kui nad ise tahaks paha teha)
7 July 2017 22:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(Sisalikud)
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212332286799027
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212332286799027
7 July 2017 22:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
proovigeendiselt veel
7 July 2017 22:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kas nüüd näitab, kuna vana postitus juba?
Kuidas enne pidevalt peidetuks koheselt muutus
Kuidas enne pidevalt peidetuks koheselt muutus
7 July 2017 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Proov : harri-kingo.blogspot.com
http://harri-kingo.blogspot.com/
7 July 2017 22:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ei toiminud see lugu!
7 July 2017 22:02
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Will try to help Bill, when able to reach him proper
7 July 2017 22:00
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
I still like Microsoft.. just they like others, influenced my infiltrators and wrong ideas
7 July 2017 22:00
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
Well, no, after 1994 they ended the sales on it, this is why FreeDOS was made, and it is active up to now,
7 July 2017 21:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
NB: Piim ei hapnenud, normaalselt
7 July 2017 21:54
Margus Meigo commented on Seiklejate Vennaskond's link.
, OLULINE INFO LÄBILUGEDA,
mitu suurt olulist asja koos, seega on lühem kui tundub, mitme filmi ja raamatujägu siin proovin kokku võtta asju mida enamasti ei osata teada, Seega kui teema ülesse tuleb, oled ettevalmistatud
Mitmete erinevate Gay komuunidega koos ka elanud, õevend ka gey,
Sellel teemadel ka aastaid tegelnud kuna see üks suur planeedi murekohti.
Kokkuvõtvalt, Vägsa probleemide rikas seltskond
Kuigi Seiklejad pole veel otseselt vaimsetee rajajad, siis hoian teemad nii maised kui selle vaimse teemajuures saab:
Tegu siis VaimuKeha osaga, kes läbi ajaloo mitmeid pahasi intriige oragniseerinud (otse vana kuulus Gay prost UKs rääkis mis moodi nad väljapressimistega poliitikud kontrollisid....kui uurimusi teha siis vabalt leiab punkte mida läbi ajaloo ühendada..)
intriigid,
tänu sellele loomusele, mis vaimselt ja psüholoogiliselt Ka tekib kui loodusvälise organiseeritud tegevusega tegelda, (ehk kui looduse järjepidevusest väljaspool olevaid juhtumisi hakatakse poliitiliselt organiseerima tekib probleeme suuri..)
(kahepalgelisus, üleolevus, ülitundlikus neil kes teaduvsel, ülbus, intriigi armastus, pealiskaudsus, oma agenda, kerglaslik meelsus, väärtuste kadumine (mis sobib mis ei), usaldamatus partnerite osas, liiderlikus, jumalatus jms need lihtsalt tavalised sündroomid, ilma poliitiliste ja esoteeriliste tagamaasi mainimatta, millest suur osa "Heterolisigi" nakatunud, ..)
Seega saab kindlasti huvitav ja mitmekesine üritus olema,
Gayde seas palju suurte ja avatud energiatega inimesi kes ka palju rõõmu kergesti tuua oskavad ning aktiivsed ja targad enda aktivistide osas, ilma bürokraatiata,
teemaks võiks veel olla, tuua, ka et
kui geeni tehnoloogia saab tulveikus olema, ja vanemad saavad valida, pea kõike, kas saavad valida ka seda, kas nende laps saab olema normaalse seksuaalsusega või muud varjandid ,
Ka see oleks huvitav workshop, et mis moodi millised noored toetaksid täis inimeste robotiseeriumist kus teadvust edasi kantakse sooneutraalselt (oluline popp suud Gay komuunide kõrgemas seltskonnas)
ja Naise loodus valikute lõpetamist kus Teadusega saavad Lapsehoidjad, Lapsevanemad või organisatsioonid valida, millisest soost ja veendumustega lapsi nad soovivad.
See mitmete ajaloo tipp siiani toimivate organisatsioonide ammune unistus. ja järjepidev töö käib ka selles osas.
Teemaks võiks ka tulla, et kui oleks magic pill (mis TEGELIKULT osati olemas, looduses, kuid see las jääda neile kes Päriselt huvitatud..)
Mis suudaks nende seksuaalsust muuta, kas nad siis muudaksid (geyks või heteroks)
kõikidel gay'del l keda tunnen on siiani olnud vanemate konflikt, ebamine, tasemel kus vanemate vajalikusest reaalselt ei soovitagi aru saada (...eks ka mõned muud noored sinna õmbi sattunud..).
Lesbidel need konflitid nii tõsised ei tundu olema nagu ei tundu ka väär arusaamade (ebamoraalsus, keha eitamine jms) kinnistumised naistel nii tihedad ja järjepidevad olema.
kas poliitilised gey ja lesbi organisatsioonid kes aitavad läbi oma kavalate agendade ja vähemuse sildi kaitse all halastamatult ellu äratada ja rakendada organisatsioone nagu Pedofiilidele mõeldud infovahetus Keskus (just selles kõige hullemas mõttes mis mõelda on, on see organisatsioon, ülemaailmne, eemaldamaks vanusepiir vanade meeste ja noorte laste vahel.)
Momendil, Nüüdseks on Nad muidugi uued suured struktuurid ja organisatsioonid teinud, ega nad bürokraadid ole, et nii aeglaselt mõtlevad kuid mõned on veel siiani järjepidevalt sama nime all; kuna väga vanad ja iidsed suured gay struktuuride võimud, Rooma_Greeka aega ulatuvad, on neid alati toetamas.
Teemaks on Nemad just, sest Gay Lesbi organisatsioone kasutatakse läbi inimõiguste taoliste väärõiguste pealesurumiseks, nagu mehed võivad usas nüüd iga tüdrukute vetsu minna kui ütlevad, et nad peas kujutavad ennast ette naisena, ehk nad transgender, siis sellest piisab ka mitmes koolis kui poisid pulli teha tahavad ...
Siis veel kuusad nagu NABLA ja PIE.
Mõned näited mille gey/lesbi noorte organisatsioonid aitasid tekitada, otseselt,
AINULT läbi ende abi saadi sellega hakkama (sellepärast olgu nad ettevaatlik, mõistku kus kaob ära piir ja kes neid kasutab milliseks poliitiliseks või veel hullemaks agendaks)
The Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) ja teised:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pedophile_and_pederast_advocacy_organizations
( siin ühte nende aktiivset presidenti küsitletakse 60'nes minutis, tõsine video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLoYyLkPu8A&index=54&list=PL62QIISaTl3G2mxi-JMpkxcu5iHvyUvfj )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange:
The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) - sellega tundub ka seotud olema NY võlts konservatiivist linnapea, kes Donald Trubi kampaania usaldusisikuid oli ja isiklik pikaajaline sõber, NABLA sildi all igatahes ta isegi koos kõndinud Gey tänava marssimiste aegas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association
Founded: 1978; 38 years ago
Mission Removing age of consent laws
Muu valik videosi, teemakohased LGBT jms:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckmvofUd4xI&list=PLZSe7IrBg5hFsL9DXl0Oe9fgaMlmLl3if&index=55
KUi vaatad videode listi, ja seotud videosi, siis päris palju olulist infot on leida.
Eriti raske ja siiras dokumentaal oli kuulsast gey pdofiilist kes omamoodi vaimukuru, video on kus ta valges kraega kampsunis, räägib oma elust ja mõtetest, vanem doc oli, ka päris tosine ku isilma jääb.
Riikliku gay agenda paberid olid ka mul kättesaadavad, mis ainult kõrgematele ametnikudele oli mõeldud lugemiseks, proovin selle lingi ka leida, (kus väljatoodud otseselt erinevate gey organisatsioonide agendade ja strateegiate väljavõtteid )
kõigi sellega kursis olla, on kasulik,
siis saaksime osata arutada, mida reaalselt teha saaks / saame, nii, et need kes lihtsalt vaikset kooselu soovivad harrastad, et nad õpiks millega mitte kaasa minna ja mis organisatsioone on olemas, kes nende huvigruppidest ja kogunemiskohtadest käivad värbamas agente, et hoopis selliseid asju ellu viia, nii seadusandluses kui mitmes muus kohas, mida nad ise ka lõppude lõpuks ei sooviks, sest asi ei ole nende huvides, vaid kuidas keegi nende huvisi saab ära kasutada, enamuste inimeste huvide vastaselt,
Sest soo neourtraalne inimkond, on väga väga nõrk ühiskond, Matriarhaatia on ainuke kõigeõigem lahendus mis planeedil olnud on, päris inimeste jaoks, nagu suure osa Eesti päris ajaloost päris Eestlased on olnud, nagu ka päris juudid/heebrialiased (see ka üks nurgakivi konflikt Rooma-Greeka ja Heebria ehk jumalausliste vahel, mis kestab siiani, ega nad organisatsioonide vappe pole palju muutnud ka....)
mitu suurt olulist asja koos, seega on lühem kui tundub, mitme filmi ja raamatujägu siin proovin kokku võtta asju mida enamasti ei osata teada, Seega kui teema ülesse tuleb, oled ettevalmistatud
Mitmete erinevate Gay komuunidega koos ka elanud, õevend ka gey,
Sellel teemadel ka aastaid tegelnud kuna see üks suur planeedi murekohti.
Kokkuvõtvalt, Vägsa probleemide rikas seltskond
Kuigi Seiklejad pole veel otseselt vaimsetee rajajad, siis hoian teemad nii maised kui selle vaimse teemajuures saab:
Tegu siis VaimuKeha osaga, kes läbi ajaloo mitmeid pahasi intriige oragniseerinud (otse vana kuulus Gay prost UKs rääkis mis moodi nad väljapressimistega poliitikud kontrollisid....kui uurimusi teha siis vabalt leiab punkte mida läbi ajaloo ühendada..)
intriigid,
tänu sellele loomusele, mis vaimselt ja psüholoogiliselt Ka tekib kui loodusvälise organiseeritud tegevusega tegelda, (ehk kui looduse järjepidevusest väljaspool olevaid juhtumisi hakatakse poliitiliselt organiseerima tekib probleeme suuri..)
(kahepalgelisus, üleolevus, ülitundlikus neil kes teaduvsel, ülbus, intriigi armastus, pealiskaudsus, oma agenda, kerglaslik meelsus, väärtuste kadumine (mis sobib mis ei), usaldamatus partnerite osas, liiderlikus, jumalatus jms need lihtsalt tavalised sündroomid, ilma poliitiliste ja esoteeriliste tagamaasi mainimatta, millest suur osa "Heterolisigi" nakatunud, ..)
Seega saab kindlasti huvitav ja mitmekesine üritus olema,
Gayde seas palju suurte ja avatud energiatega inimesi kes ka palju rõõmu kergesti tuua oskavad ning aktiivsed ja targad enda aktivistide osas, ilma bürokraatiata,
teemaks võiks veel olla, tuua, ka et
kui geeni tehnoloogia saab tulveikus olema, ja vanemad saavad valida, pea kõike, kas saavad valida ka seda, kas nende laps saab olema normaalse seksuaalsusega või muud varjandid ,
Ka see oleks huvitav workshop, et mis moodi millised noored toetaksid täis inimeste robotiseeriumist kus teadvust edasi kantakse sooneutraalselt (oluline popp suud Gay komuunide kõrgemas seltskonnas)
ja Naise loodus valikute lõpetamist kus Teadusega saavad Lapsehoidjad, Lapsevanemad või organisatsioonid valida, millisest soost ja veendumustega lapsi nad soovivad.
See mitmete ajaloo tipp siiani toimivate organisatsioonide ammune unistus. ja järjepidev töö käib ka selles osas.
Teemaks võiks ka tulla, et kui oleks magic pill (mis TEGELIKULT osati olemas, looduses, kuid see las jääda neile kes Päriselt huvitatud..)
Mis suudaks nende seksuaalsust muuta, kas nad siis muudaksid (geyks või heteroks)
kõikidel gay'del l keda tunnen on siiani olnud vanemate konflikt, ebamine, tasemel kus vanemate vajalikusest reaalselt ei soovitagi aru saada (...eks ka mõned muud noored sinna õmbi sattunud..).
Lesbidel need konflitid nii tõsised ei tundu olema nagu ei tundu ka väär arusaamade (ebamoraalsus, keha eitamine jms) kinnistumised naistel nii tihedad ja järjepidevad olema.
kas poliitilised gey ja lesbi organisatsioonid kes aitavad läbi oma kavalate agendade ja vähemuse sildi kaitse all halastamatult ellu äratada ja rakendada organisatsioone nagu Pedofiilidele mõeldud infovahetus Keskus (just selles kõige hullemas mõttes mis mõelda on, on see organisatsioon, ülemaailmne, eemaldamaks vanusepiir vanade meeste ja noorte laste vahel.)
Momendil, Nüüdseks on Nad muidugi uued suured struktuurid ja organisatsioonid teinud, ega nad bürokraadid ole, et nii aeglaselt mõtlevad kuid mõned on veel siiani järjepidevalt sama nime all; kuna väga vanad ja iidsed suured gay struktuuride võimud, Rooma_Greeka aega ulatuvad, on neid alati toetamas.
Teemaks on Nemad just, sest Gay Lesbi organisatsioone kasutatakse läbi inimõiguste taoliste väärõiguste pealesurumiseks, nagu mehed võivad usas nüüd iga tüdrukute vetsu minna kui ütlevad, et nad peas kujutavad ennast ette naisena, ehk nad transgender, siis sellest piisab ka mitmes koolis kui poisid pulli teha tahavad ...
Siis veel kuusad nagu NABLA ja PIE.
Mõned näited mille gey/lesbi noorte organisatsioonid aitasid tekitada, otseselt,
AINULT läbi ende abi saadi sellega hakkama (sellepärast olgu nad ettevaatlik, mõistku kus kaob ära piir ja kes neid kasutab milliseks poliitiliseks või veel hullemaks agendaks)
The Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) ja teised:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pedophile_and_pederast_advocacy_organizations
( siin ühte nende aktiivset presidenti küsitletakse 60'nes minutis, tõsine video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLoYyLkPu8A&index=54&list=PL62QIISaTl3G2mxi-JMpkxcu5iHvyUvfj )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange:
The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) - sellega tundub ka seotud olema NY võlts konservatiivist linnapea, kes Donald Trubi kampaania usaldusisikuid oli ja isiklik pikaajaline sõber, NABLA sildi all igatahes ta isegi koos kõndinud Gey tänava marssimiste aegas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association
Founded: 1978; 38 years ago
Mission Removing age of consent laws
Muu valik videosi, teemakohased LGBT jms:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckmvofUd4xI&list=PLZSe7IrBg5hFsL9DXl0Oe9fgaMlmLl3if&index=55
KUi vaatad videode listi, ja seotud videosi, siis päris palju olulist infot on leida.
Eriti raske ja siiras dokumentaal oli kuulsast gey pdofiilist kes omamoodi vaimukuru, video on kus ta valges kraega kampsunis, räägib oma elust ja mõtetest, vanem doc oli, ka päris tosine ku isilma jääb.
Riikliku gay agenda paberid olid ka mul kättesaadavad, mis ainult kõrgematele ametnikudele oli mõeldud lugemiseks, proovin selle lingi ka leida, (kus väljatoodud otseselt erinevate gey organisatsioonide agendade ja strateegiate väljavõtteid )
kõigi sellega kursis olla, on kasulik,
siis saaksime osata arutada, mida reaalselt teha saaks / saame, nii, et need kes lihtsalt vaikset kooselu soovivad harrastad, et nad õpiks millega mitte kaasa minna ja mis organisatsioone on olemas, kes nende huvigruppidest ja kogunemiskohtadest käivad värbamas agente, et hoopis selliseid asju ellu viia, nii seadusandluses kui mitmes muus kohas, mida nad ise ka lõppude lõpuks ei sooviks, sest asi ei ole nende huvides, vaid kuidas keegi nende huvisi saab ära kasutada, enamuste inimeste huvide vastaselt,
Sest soo neourtraalne inimkond, on väga väga nõrk ühiskond, Matriarhaatia on ainuke kõigeõigem lahendus mis planeedil olnud on, päris inimeste jaoks, nagu suure osa Eesti päris ajaloost päris Eestlased on olnud, nagu ka päris juudid/heebrialiased (see ka üks nurgakivi konflikt Rooma-Greeka ja Heebria ehk jumalausliste vahel, mis kestab siiani, ega nad organisatsioonide vappe pole palju muutnud ka....)
7 July 2017 21:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuidsaaksin otsepeale räääkida viamuga kui asi uuesti mängib,
6 July 2017 22:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu see nii võigas oli et raske seedida, ei oska sõnadessegi panna
6 July 2017 22:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
väga sügav kultuuriline, arvatavasti tahtlik hävitamine
6 July 2017 22:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
karavan, kui need on need tegelaed, kes Tallinnatv kensakalty Eestit mnistasid süva kultuuridele üle maailma (kuhu see kanne läks)
6 July 2017 22:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ootan mugavalt kuni keegi tuleb kuni aitab, seni vaiskelt upume (või midagi )
6 July 2017 22:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vastuseid on, kuidas vastuseid realiseerida, enda kasuks, et saaks päriselt teisi haitamahakata, seda aga ei vaevu ma endale , enda kasuks sättima
6 July 2017 22:11
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Prits's comment.
kuidas palun?
6 July 2017 22:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
MIks nii wau
6 July 2017 22:06
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
seda arvestamiseks, minul ka palju kasu_tegurei, mitme maa ja pundiga, unikaalsest muinasjutulisest positsioonist eraelus ja olukordades mis vaatevinklist ta ise , ma ise, seda vaadanud ja oletanud, ning just kuidas ise tunnen ja m iks ise (//siit vahelt kadus teine pool)
// et siis kokkuleppe jaoks, mida vaja ja kuidas, selles osas oma elukogemusega saan ka paar head nõu ja struktuuri anda kuidas seda tegema peaks käima saamiseks ja kuhu suunas minna kuidas, milliste taimedega
// et siis kokkuleppe jaoks, mida vaja ja kuidas, selles osas oma elukogemusega saan ka paar head nõu ja struktuuri anda kuidas seda tegema peaks käima saamiseks ja kuhu suunas minna kuidas, milliste taimedega
6 July 2017 21:07
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
et siis teine liik, kuid eks siin peab sünkroniseerima suts enne kui räägime, palju suundi millest saab olulisest võtta kus muu oluline olematu saab olla.
Kuid mis siis kokku lepime mis on ja olema saab, see
Kuid mis siis kokku lepime mis on ja olema saab, see
6 July 2017 21:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei mul pole meeleshoiu organiseeriat
6 July 2017 20:33
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Timm's comment.
ju nad need kelle genofondis metsast kiiresti möödakappamist palju on
6 July 2017 20:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vele eip tea kas hea
6 July 2017 20:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hiljem lugemiseks
6 July 2017 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212361281563878
6 July 2017 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Margus Meigo imelik ,et keegiei uuri miks
6 July 2017 20:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
http://www.highwives.com/2017/07/18-signs-that-you-are-earth-angel-and.html
1. Strangers often come to you for advice.
2. People love venting to you.
3. You accept others for who they are.
4. Your basic needs are always taken care of.
5. You have a deep empathy for others.
6. You are not always the best when it comes to managing your responsibilities.
7. You inspire others.
8. You are constantly struggling to align yourself with this world.
9. You are highly sensitive.
10. You rely on your intuition.
11. Societal expectations leave you feeling empty.
12. You have a deep personality.
13. You are able to dig into your psyche.
14. Your emotions are more intense than other peoples.
15. You are kind and love helping others.
16. You do not judge anyone.
17. You are peace oriented.
18. You are concerned for the environment.
// I judge hard only the ones who slowing down the peace progress
1. Strangers often come to you for advice.
2. People love venting to you.
3. You accept others for who they are.
4. Your basic needs are always taken care of.
5. You have a deep empathy for others.
6. You are not always the best when it comes to managing your responsibilities.
7. You inspire others.
8. You are constantly struggling to align yourself with this world.
9. You are highly sensitive.
10. You rely on your intuition.
11. Societal expectations leave you feeling empty.
12. You have a deep personality.
13. You are able to dig into your psyche.
14. Your emotions are more intense than other peoples.
15. You are kind and love helping others.
16. You do not judge anyone.
17. You are peace oriented.
18. You are concerned for the environment.
// I judge hard only the ones who slowing down the peace progress
http://www.highwives.com/2017/07/18-signs-that-you-are-earth-angel-and.html
6 July 2017 19:58
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Milised rohkem inimesed on
6 July 2017 19:53
Margus Meigo replied to Ireene Viktor's comment.
Wau!
6 July 2017 19:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
when shamanic s do these things... we do sharping in minds, things.,.. same time.. not just some project dressing up then walking on... all parts... production... is for many doors in times to come still
6 July 2017 07:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Nija :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcMHkvEVgVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcMHkvEVgVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcMHkvEVgVo
6 July 2017 07:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
+ kogu see kentsakus käib asja juurde, Loo jaoks on ikkagi ruumi
6 July 2017 07:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
antWood - ninja
6 July 2017 03:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kuid ootame Su enda kirjeldust koigele
6 July 2017 03:06
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's photo.
Eks ta üks kübarate kokkutulek oli
6 July 2017 00:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
asja iroonia ruudus lisab maiku juurde veel speling, kes selle dimensiooni ebasuurena kõrvale jättis
5 July 2017 20:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ega need sõnad nüüd minigd head küll pole peale mõne kirme, kuid asjaks seegi
5 July 2017 20:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja eks teame ka, mis tasemel keda alles hoitakse, milline on see mõrudus mis kasuks neile kes alles jätavad ni suured rahnud,
siis
siis
5 July 2017 20:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"LOHED LENDAVAD" on metafoor,
5 July 2017 20:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui üldse mingit konkurentsi näha, siis taoliste tegelaste sõnades
5 July 2017 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ma olen rohkem patrioot kui EInar Laigna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNeHR8zFCxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNeHR8zFCxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNeHR8zFCxA
5 July 2017 20:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Halkkab Pihta, Nagu VOlmer KUNAGI ise saadaks kaebusi:, et veel piisavalt tarku kes teda kuulavad (va. joomise osa, isegi see viin mis nad Sarkaga välja andsid, polnud ju parim idee kui sinna lisaks muud kiiksu pandud polnud nad aktiivset väljaspool pudelitki..)
""Hardi Volmer ja Turis..." The YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated due to multiple third-party notifications of copyright infringement.
Sorry about that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leWbNN2Qv0Q&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX&index=22 "
""Hardi Volmer ja Turis..." The YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated due to multiple third-party notifications of copyright infringement.
Sorry about that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leWbNN2Qv0Q&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX&index=22 "
5 July 2017 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on Piret Väinsalu's post.
Group: Aja Aeglustamise Ühing
Kui sääl psühedeelikumidega ka Sina peal ollakse, siis ikka,
muidugi endast mõista, ELFidel endal polegi vaj, nad juba on ise seened : )
Kärbseseen: "Tee salajaste asjade juurde"
Teravpaljak: Tarkusekivi
Kanep: VaeseMehe tTaevas5 July 2017 00:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9LfkCef58&index=21&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9LfkCef58&index=21&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9LfkCef58&index=21&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX
5 July 2017 00:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see,et kõi korras näib,
ei täenda, et näed kõike korralikult ,
see et tead kõik korras olema, ei ole kinnitus selleks, et pole muid võimalusi olnud ilma ajamuutustetta kuhu sind korrasolekusks tõsteti, igaleyhele üksipulgi selgitada kõige peenemaid aegruumis lendamis polegi motet, oluline , võimalikuline praegu, selleks, et hoida tugevamini üksteist koos, ja ehk juhu peale Eesti, maa suunas, naise sunas mehed mõtlema hakkavad enne kui muust, kuust
ei täenda, et näed kõike korralikult ,
see et tead kõik korras olema, ei ole kinnitus selleks, et pole muid võimalusi olnud ilma ajamuutustetta kuhu sind korrasolekusks tõsteti, igaleyhele üksipulgi selgitada kõige peenemaid aegruumis lendamis polegi motet, oluline , võimalikuline praegu, selleks, et hoida tugevamini üksteist koos, ja ehk juhu peale Eesti, maa suunas, naise sunas mehed mõtlema hakkavad enne kui muust, kuust
5 July 2017 00:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vaadake,m et need kõiksugused lugemissaalid lukksus polegi.. ja ega ei teagi ju millal mis kinni on kui ei tea mida keegi piirata soovib ja miks ning miks midagi muud lahti hoitakse ka piiratud ajal,
juba ainuüksi juhuslike ja järjekorrapidevaid märkida, kes kogematta mitukorda mõtlevapanema asja peale satuvad ja veel mõndade mõtlejate tuttavad ka, või muidu uhtlikuna lahtistes kommuunides,.. ehk siis vaja kohalikul nõukogul kiirelt otsustada, kui peaks , aga need harvad, enamust hotakse seni kuni nad ei piiksu, ja piiksud saab õigeaegselt summutada,
plaanikohaselt,
kuid nagu ikka nende kandiliste plaanidega.. viha psühiaatrilise imagoga rahvast saadakse kõrgemalt isoleerida küll ümbertöötlemiseks, kui suurtel mõtlejatel see plaanis on, aint nad nii suured, nendest suurelt tavameedias ei räägitagi pööbelile palju, kui siis moned esindus ja psoter mehed ianult
juba ainuüksi juhuslike ja järjekorrapidevaid märkida, kes kogematta mitukorda mõtlevapanema asja peale satuvad ja veel mõndade mõtlejate tuttavad ka, või muidu uhtlikuna lahtistes kommuunides,.. ehk siis vaja kohalikul nõukogul kiirelt otsustada, kui peaks , aga need harvad, enamust hotakse seni kuni nad ei piiksu, ja piiksud saab õigeaegselt summutada,
plaanikohaselt,
kuid nagu ikka nende kandiliste plaanidega.. viha psühiaatrilise imagoga rahvast saadakse kõrgemalt isoleerida küll ümbertöötlemiseks, kui suurtel mõtlejatel see plaanis on, aint nad nii suured, nendest suurelt tavameedias ei räägitagi pööbelile palju, kui siis moned esindus ja psoter mehed ianult
5 July 2017 00:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
niisiis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxFCB41cEM&index=14&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxFCB41cEM&index=14&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxFCB41cEM&index=14&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX
5 July 2017 00:27
Margus Meigo replied to Waffa Margus Meigo ( life & traveling humor comedy sex jokes video music ..'s comment.
mõelda vaid nende mürikide osas, mida saaadakse kasutama hakata, kui Väepuud enamus maha notitud suures hulgas piisavalt
Ega nalja pärast, rapla sopruslinna ramstaini ligidal, usa suurim sõjapaas kolinud, suurima euroopa metsaala oma sihikule... kaitseks lootus jääks
Ega nalja pärast, rapla sopruslinna ramstaini ligidal, usa suurim sõjapaas kolinud, suurima euroopa metsaala oma sihikule... kaitseks lootus jääks
4 July 2017 23:37
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Jookide ja kakkaohapukoore kreemi mis suurmüüki ylemaailma saaks minna vabalt, isegi kui seda koort moosiga segada ..
et nende seas sobib pruun suhkur küll, kraam niigi rikas ja võimas, et ei pea odavaimaga ülejäänud komponente ära rikkuma
et nende seas sobib pruun suhkur küll, kraam niigi rikas ja võimas, et ei pea odavaimaga ülejäänud komponente ära rikkuma
4 July 2017 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Mul need valge suhkruga moosid ka pahasti mõjuvad, va maasika moos ja vist veel üks orandz oli, kus suhkur otsest kahju organismile nii palju ei tee, rohkem kui mari mis alles jäänud kasu annab, mustikas ka aksepteeritav
Kuid ikkagi, enne valget suhkurt vist tõesti polnud olemas moose, mis aasta seisaks,
ja kui ka polnud, siis ikka ikka mis uuringud selles osas teha, et inimesi välja aidata,
jaga viimset infi ka
Kuid ikkagi, enne valget suhkurt vist tõesti polnud olemas moose, mis aasta seisaks,
ja kui ka polnud, siis ikka ikka mis uuringud selles osas teha, et inimesi välja aidata,
jaga viimset infi ka
4 July 2017 23:31
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
kindel, et seda Ainult valge suhkruga teha saab, muud pole suutnud, tervilsikumat, teadus välja mõelda v?
4 July 2017 23:29
Margus Meigo replied to Nataki McNeal Bhatti's comment.
This is personal belief
4 July 2017 23:05
Margus Meigo replied to Nataki McNeal Bhatti's comment.
Nataki McNeal Bhatti but in all, fire is not needed to make life,
have to be also common knowledge,
or the pentagram will to much heat up it self thinking it is about them also
have to be also common knowledge,
or the pentagram will to much heat up it self thinking it is about them also
4 July 2017 22:03
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
hakkab looma,
suts hilja, et kes mida loob kuid nagu , kui trolliarmee kogematta luua, sest ei teata, keda kuidas ja miks trollid,a
või kes käske ja moode annab, mille piires ise mõelda ja tegutseda mõistusepäraselt, südame järgi ja psühedeelikumide poolselt, täies patriootlikuses
suts hilja, et kes mida loob kuid nagu , kui trolliarmee kogematta luua, sest ei teata, keda kuidas ja miks trollid,a
või kes käske ja moode annab, mille piires ise mõelda ja tegutseda mõistusepäraselt, südame järgi ja psühedeelikumide poolselt, täies patriootlikuses
4 July 2017 21:35
Margus Meigo replied to Nataki McNeal Bhatti's comment.
That's my job, let's hope it will pay soon to touch more hearts
4 July 2017 21:33
Margus Meigo replied to Nataki McNeal Bhatti's comment.
so this picture show well, the elements, true elements,
whit out fire, just light/color/material/spirit
whit out fire, just light/color/material/spirit
4 July 2017 21:32
Margus Meigo replied to Nataki McNeal Bhatti's comment.
in core we blue, but from land, (as humans)
but blue seems ungreen and then people turn red, to red,
but they can know even less safely what is red, then to know what is green and blue
but blue seems ungreen and then people turn red, to red,
but they can know even less safely what is red, then to know what is green and blue
4 July 2017 21:31
Margus Meigo replied to Nataki McNeal Bhatti's comment.
Good enough view for so much that is needed,
to keep spirit free,
after finding this, by spirit, was confirmed to be more perfect then appears at first,
and more needed with many good future possible interpretations, related to Revolution of Free spirit in connection of Blue Pure (religion) and green nature (maausulised,"pagans"), ...bird spirit from earth is more in direction of blue spirit then earth human (but it is the circle, that human perhaps have to accept, that he is in core, )
Earth. We are one. // Earth, is but are You ?
to keep spirit free,
after finding this, by spirit, was confirmed to be more perfect then appears at first,
and more needed with many good future possible interpretations, related to Revolution of Free spirit in connection of Blue Pure (religion) and green nature (maausulised,"pagans"), ...bird spirit from earth is more in direction of blue spirit then earth human (but it is the circle, that human perhaps have to accept, that he is in core, )
Earth. We are one. // Earth, is but are You ?
4 July 2017 21:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I will translate on moment Natakid
4 July 2017 21:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EI PAGULASMASSIDELE
lipsu kandimiseks peab oikka eri kõva mes ja hea vabandus olema, või siis lödipüks ja nõrguke, paratamatuses, teadmatuses elav,
Kuid kes vähegi Tegija on, ja asub seda teemat veel kaitsma ka , ilma, et nad valjusti tunnistkas, et see on orjapidajate sümbol,
siis kohe sisse sõita4 July 2017 20:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EI PAGULASMASSIDELE
kasti kohe need kes teistmoodi arvavad, või siis teade postkastigi koju, et kuna olukord on mehel vale, siis võib ta valmistuda äraminekuks, kui füüsiliselt ei soovi siis anna minna,
päris hulludele vast ei hakka saatmagi, need mida pole sobilik muuse ilma saatagi, vaid teised maad ise ka sooviks, et me need ette korda teeks, kui üldse saadame,4 July 2017 20:50
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Paeoja's post.
Group: EI PAGULASMASSIDELE
Kle me eestis siin peaksime need valged neegrid välja ajama alustuseks, kes ettekiujutavad, et omades Eesti vanemaid on neil õigus kellegi muu kui Eesti meelduse järgi käituda4 July 2017 20:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Funcker üldse algselt EU plani lugenud on v mis põlvas kirjutati
4 July 2017 20:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui vaja saab lasta kasvõi võlts arakad systeemiliselt välja ja iniemsi ründama,
Kui vaja saab zombi harakad teha, treenida,
ja siis lahti lasta ja ku ivaja saab nakatusi mitmete loomadega kanda mis omakorda kaasa aitab inimeste enda arusaamadele, et peavad kaasa aitama sele likvideeirmisele mille kaudu loomad (ja põliseeslased, linnud) elus end hoiavad, et saaksime kõiki päästa,
need tavalised mõttevarjundid oleks ka neilt kes looduse allutmaise laulde sisu ei vaevnud inimestele selgitama, ja kes neid valmis soovis vorpida
Kui vaja saab zombi harakad teha, treenida,
ja siis lahti lasta ja ku ivaja saab nakatusi mitmete loomadega kanda mis omakorda kaasa aitab inimeste enda arusaamadele, et peavad kaasa aitama sele likvideeirmisele mille kaudu loomad (ja põliseeslased, linnud) elus end hoiavad, et saaksime kõiki päästa,
need tavalised mõttevarjundid oleks ka neilt kes looduse allutmaise laulde sisu ei vaevnud inimestele selgitama, ja kes neid valmis soovis vorpida
4 July 2017 20:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mingi teema oli sellega ka, et salaja tulevikus mürgiga, kasvõi kogu rohelus ära likvideerida plaanitakse, venemaal abiks, roheterroristide likvideerimiseks, kõik myrgid mis vaja, vanasti juba kylmikud lääbakil olid ja siis nad saavad öelda, et terroristid kogusid vb tol ajal ja kes iganes sel ajal, olid olukorrad lääbakil..igayks võis saada (see ette planeeritud nagu ikka 30+ aastased plaanid, mis piisav vahemaa, et neid plaane uus generatsioon ise uskumisest enamasti tagasi hoiab, ja yhsikondki, kes midagi nii suurt ei soovi aksepteerida, et oli või, et nad selleks võimelised.. kui plaan on.. mis plaan oli... siis kui sellele see rynnaku tyyp aitab kaasa, pigem, sis võid kindel olla, et see ka plaanis on, eriti kui paranoia, et loodusega seotud midagi, mida nad ei tea ja et siis teised neid ei saaks lambaks teha või midagi kasvõi kasutada või avalikult omadele seletades "et inimesed tähsale saaksid kriisi olukorras keskenduda, võtsime neilt tähelepanu ebatähtsalt ära muidu siin tangid sõidavad ja lapsed üle tee jooksevad ussikesi ja puukesi kallistama)
4 July 2017 20:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
4 July 2017 20:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
it can be software inisde software
3 July 2017 20:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But i still like Microsoft
The name, is already good
Microsoft Eesti
The name, is already good
Microsoft Eesti
3 July 2017 20:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See laulu sõbralikum osa, ülejäänud on südamest
3 July 2017 17:42
Margus Meigo commented on Rabbi Manis Friedman's live video.
i will find out how must be
3 July 2017 14:48
Margus Meigo commented on Rabbi Manis Friedman's live video.
I will find out how was it
3 July 2017 14:48
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Tänud,
See asjakohane kommentaar, mulle endalegi raske, Teeme parandused ;)
See asjakohane kommentaar, mulle endalegi raske, Teeme parandused ;)
3 July 2017 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
Kerge-vihma-tuule asjad, ja mingi ajutine pool õhuke kuid soe kampsun ,
soe üldiselt aga tuulega vihmane tihti ja soe.. sedasi ,et vahest on palav jasiis umbes 10 kraadi ainult , seega pole vaja ka panbuks riietuda, kuid ei ole vaja ka ebamugavalt jahedalt tunda kui korra päike varjus jälle päevade viisi, vahest
soe üldiselt aga tuulega vihmane tihti ja soe.. sedasi ,et vahest on palav jasiis umbes 10 kraadi ainult , seega pole vaja ka panbuks riietuda, kuid ei ole vaja ka ebamugavalt jahedalt tunda kui korra päike varjus jälle päevade viisi, vahest
3 July 2017 13:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
For 64-bit x64-based systems:
Download Download the x64 MSRT package now.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=585d2bde-367f-495e-94e7-6349f4effc74
For 32-bit x86-based systems:
Download Download the x86 MSRT package now.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=ad724ae0-e72d-4f54-9ab3-75b8eb148356&displaylang=en
Download Download the x64 MSRT package now.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=585d2bde-367f-495e-94e7-6349f4effc74
For 32-bit x86-based systems:
Download Download the x86 MSRT package now.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=ad724ae0-e72d-4f54-9ab3-75b8eb148356&displaylang=en
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=585d2bde-367f-495e-94e7-6349f4effc74
3 July 2017 11:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"
5. DOCUMENTATION. Any person that has valid access to your computer or internal network may copy and use the documentation for your internal, reference purposes.
6. EXPORT RESTRICTIONS. The software is subject to United States export laws and regulations. You must comply with all domestic and international export laws and regulations that apply to the software. These laws include restrictions on destinations, end users and end use. For additional information, see https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/exporting .
7. SUPPORT SERVICES. Because this software is “as is,” we may not provide support services for it.
8. ENTIRE AGREEMENT. This agreement, and the terms for supplements, updates, Internet-based services and support services that you use, are the entire agreement for the software and support services.
9. APPLICABLE LAW.
a. United States. If you acquired the software in the United States, Washington state law governs the interpretation of this agreement and applies to claims for breach of it, regardless of conflict of laws principles. The laws of the state where you live govern all other claims, including claims under state consumer protection laws, unfair competition laws, and in tort.
b. Outside the United States. If you acquired the software in any other country, the laws of that country apply.
10. LEGAL EFFECT. This agreement describes certain legal rights. You may have other rights under the laws of your country. You may also have rights with respect to the party from whom you acquired the software. This agreement does not change your rights under the laws of your country if the laws of your country do not permit it to do so.
11. DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY. The software is licensed “as-is.” You bear the risk of using it. Microsoft gives no express warranties, guarantees or conditions. You may have additional consumer rights under your local laws which this agreement cannot change. To the extent permitted under your local laws, Microsoft excludes the implied warranties of merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose and non-infringement. "
5. DOCUMENTATION. Any person that has valid access to your computer or internal network may copy and use the documentation for your internal, reference purposes.
6. EXPORT RESTRICTIONS. The software is subject to United States export laws and regulations. You must comply with all domestic and international export laws and regulations that apply to the software. These laws include restrictions on destinations, end users and end use. For additional information, see https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/exporting .
7. SUPPORT SERVICES. Because this software is “as is,” we may not provide support services for it.
8. ENTIRE AGREEMENT. This agreement, and the terms for supplements, updates, Internet-based services and support services that you use, are the entire agreement for the software and support services.
9. APPLICABLE LAW.
a. United States. If you acquired the software in the United States, Washington state law governs the interpretation of this agreement and applies to claims for breach of it, regardless of conflict of laws principles. The laws of the state where you live govern all other claims, including claims under state consumer protection laws, unfair competition laws, and in tort.
b. Outside the United States. If you acquired the software in any other country, the laws of that country apply.
10. LEGAL EFFECT. This agreement describes certain legal rights. You may have other rights under the laws of your country. You may also have rights with respect to the party from whom you acquired the software. This agreement does not change your rights under the laws of your country if the laws of your country do not permit it to do so.
11. DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY. The software is licensed “as-is.” You bear the risk of using it. Microsoft gives no express warranties, guarantees or conditions. You may have additional consumer rights under your local laws which this agreement cannot change. To the extent permitted under your local laws, Microsoft excludes the implied warranties of merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose and non-infringement. "
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/exporting
3 July 2017 11:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Peaasi, et nad teavad kuidas tagasi lennata,
kuid eks meil vaja siin nende psüholoogiat rohkem õppida kui kõike muud, inimesi vaja tunda ja ka peale kärkida, kui keegi liiga ära unustab, et me ka raskes seisus kus pole naljatamiseks aega sõdurina vaidtuleb valvel ja tõsisüdamlik olla
kuid eks meil vaja siin nende psüholoogiat rohkem õppida kui kõike muud, inimesi vaja tunda ja ka peale kärkida, kui keegi liiga ära unustab, et me ka raskes seisus kus pole naljatamiseks aega sõdurina vaidtuleb valvel ja tõsisüdamlik olla
2 July 2017 20:15
Margus Meigo commented on Kai Kulbok's photo.
Nice team!
2 July 2017 20:11
Margus Meigo commented on Kai Kulbok's post.
Kenad inimesed vb, kuid ütle neile,et siin riigis ei ole sobilik olla lipsudega, eriti meie generatsioonide võimaliku viimase hingetõmbe peal,
kus meid lipsumeeste poolt likvideeritakse
kui me just uue renesassinga hakkama eip saa, saame ikka ma usun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNeHR8zFCxA
kus meid lipsumeeste poolt likvideeritakse
kui me just uue renesassinga hakkama eip saa, saame ikka ma usun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNeHR8zFCxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNeHR8zFCxA
2 July 2017 20:09
Margus Meigo commented on Taavi Timm's post.
mis krt, KRT karupildiga logo see, suuresti on olemas, koos sümboolika tähendusega ja ajalooga ?
2 July 2017 19:38
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Kuusik's post.
Group: Seenehuvilised
Supper!2 July 2017 19:15
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's photo.
mis ta sääl rallib
2 July 2017 18:58
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's post.
Kes see kes Eesti riigi ametnikke ähvardas (tütrel emaka välja lõigata, peksis teadlasi kontoris, sundis töölisi riigiasutusest põgenema neid kodus ukseees olles ähvardades...)
ja nime expressi ei julgetud pannagi,
Kuidas temagagi oli, kas selle ekspressi teksti ka siia lingina panna saab, pole käepärast
ja nime expressi ei julgetud pannagi,
Kuidas temagagi oli, kas selle ekspressi teksti ka siia lingina panna saab, pole käepärast
2 July 2017 18:52
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's post.
Kusjuures praeguste tegelate seltsis Laar on veel reaalselt asjalike inimesi, kellega oleka mõtet rääkida, kuni veel elus püsib
2 July 2017 18:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ehk siis "sisalikud on süüdi"
jasamal ajal ON ka, "sisalikud" isegi , kui nad OLEKS või ON sisalikud, puutub see vähe asjasse, olukorra suurusega, aru tuleb saada, et need on need keda me rehealt välja puhastanud
jasamal ajal ON ka, "sisalikud" isegi , kui nad OLEKS või ON sisalikud, puutub see vähe asjasse, olukorra suurusega, aru tuleb saada, et need on need keda me rehealt välja puhastanud
2 July 2017 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siia ka veel korra. https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212332286799027
Kuskilt peab ju läbi tulema, hiljem veel huvitavat materiali saab avalikustatud , mis mõne aasta pärast asjakohane
Kuskilt peab ju läbi tulema, hiljem veel huvitavat materiali saab avalikustatud , mis mõne aasta pärast asjakohane
2 July 2017 18:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
LIsa video ka lisatud mis liiga räige, lauluväljakult, et eraldi seinal jagada täis postitusena: https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212332286799027
2 July 2017 18:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Järgmine aasta tulevad nahk sado maso riietes pederastid ka ringkäigule kandes Sirbi vasara särki ja dirikentide, laulujuhtide punased T'e särgid on veel tase edasi arenenud Spraidi logodega dressideks,
https://www.facebook.com/Vaikne.Don/videos/pcb.1547523438612209/1547519771945909
Lilled on ka raudaia taha pandud... juba ilus küll..
We are born in the USSR
https://www.facebook.com/Vaikne.Don/videos/pcb.1547523438612209/1547519771945909
Lilled on ka raudaia taha pandud... juba ilus küll..
We are born in the USSR
2 July 2017 18:41
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's photo.
Vaat kui nostaligilised tegelased, mis siin muud öelda
2 July 2017 18:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Marje nagu kiitis heaks, et tuleb ringi laaberdada laulupeol ja asju muuta nagu HINGE TEHNOLOOGIA põhjal spetsiaalselt SAMA tooni vajavad laulud, et nad TOIMIKS, muudeti TOON poole laulupeal korraks muuks, solgiti selleks, et hinges täis pikk kultuurilise teadvuse ülekanne toimida ei saaks
Liskas veel ilusate asjade vahel
Liskas veel ilusate asjade vahel
2 July 2017 18:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See postitus SIIN, "support lehega" ei puutu asjasse üldse praegu, v.a. selles osas, et märge sellest, et Vigasi tuleb teatada
2 July 2017 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Jaanus Anti With love from class brother
Mõned jäävad küll veidraks, omapäraseks, kuid ikkagi inimesteks, mitmel tasandil
Mõned jäävad küll veidraks, omapäraseks, kuid ikkagi inimesteks, mitmel tasandil
2 July 2017 17:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 July 2017 17:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 July 2017 17:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 July 2017 17:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 July 2017 16:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ei hakka pilotkadega narvanoori, kolli kostüüme, viiking vallutajate soenguga aksendiga venelase (kas normaalseid venelasi polnud kellelt midagi küsida, kes väljendada sügavamalt saaks oma tundeid?)
2 July 2017 16:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
co operation with crashing Firefox by tuning up memory on everyone who try to use #Opera browser invented Tab system
Tab system that allowed Opera in old times, open 100 pages, on 512 Ram,
now 10 years later,
Firefox, on potentially more then double of the processor, with ... 4 GB ram, basic theme, freezes up on few hours on common computers.
So these scripts can be ordered also, to be run on various profiles, under ad excuse,
in common good to "slow down "
Tab system that allowed Opera in old times, open 100 pages, on 512 Ram,
now 10 years later,
Firefox, on potentially more then double of the processor, with ... 4 GB ram, basic theme, freezes up on few hours on common computers.
So these scripts can be ordered also, to be run on various profiles, under ad excuse,
in common good to "slow down "
2 July 2017 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Where is Notice, that Firefox obeys to #Alphabet / #Google ?
2 July 2017 16:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Teate mida üks laps saientoloogide majast liitudes ütles v? Lugege mu NOTES, name of the notes: what children have told to their parents, something like that, there is only few, take a look, on my #Notes
2 July 2017 14:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
NImekaim mul veel ja auHinnatud AK mees, isegi siisanti andeks kui ta tulnaritega avalikult liitus, arvati , etta nii tark ja väärikas, et saab hakkama, kuid arvad, et see juhus oli v, et ta lipsu siiani kannab
2 July 2017 14:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Marje Lauristin on purjus v mida selle tulnuka reporteri poolt intervueeritakse?
2 July 2017 14:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
pointi nagu graafilist
2 July 2017 03:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mõistsid, Fedja, Tanel Tina
2 July 2017 03:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://translate.google.com/#auto/en/Die%20Antwoord
https://translate.google.com/#auto/en/Die%20Antwoord
2 July 2017 03:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hea, et microsoft skype ära kaitses
2 July 2017 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(kuid kas seda kõike eestimeedias ka inimkeeli saab rääkida veel, või on ainult meid likvideerivate jõudude meedia kanalid enamusesneed tänu kellele lubatakse veel ühenduses olla)
2 July 2017 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and this is interested, first wave on OLD laptops-specially, and then all other ones that can selectevly taken if needed
2 July 2017 02:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
understand ?
2 July 2017 02:25
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Sirge's post.
and THIS is way they can see in WHOS laptop they got important files, who remember history and who they are,
ANYONE who gots files in computer will of-course NOT take a flight, and this in return, is SING to gov if they hold on their laptops anything important so they willing to miss a flight
ANYONE who gots files in computer will of-course NOT take a flight, and this in return, is SING to gov if they hold on their laptops anything important so they willing to miss a flight
2 July 2017 02:25
Margus Meigo replied to Estonia's comment.
(kes elementaarset kirjeldatud, suudab hoida ja meeleshoida ja arusaada, kaitsta, edastada, tõlgendada ja käigus hoida, seliselt, et mõte jääks "kristlikuks" ehk siis normaalseks )
2 July 2017 02:22
Margus Meigo replied to Estonia's comment.
SEE on Jumala rahvas
2 July 2017 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to Estonia's comment.
salfrätigi liigutamisel hoia täeilikus valmisolekus jumalat
2 July 2017 02:20
Margus Meigo replied to Estonia's comment.
(selle ilma võim, mida iganes, salvrätigi mille tõstame teame keda tegelikult teenime mida iganes olukorrad ja mälestused ja hommikune äratus uskuma paneb)
2 July 2017 02:18
Margus Meigo replied to Estonia's comment.
selle postituste sisu mõte onj jättagisisse valemoodi kirjutamisemoodusekõlad kui tulevatki kuid senikaua kui selgeks saab ja arusaadav, et artifisial inteligence eest siin ennast sätestame
2 July 2017 02:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lauluheli, hääl on jumalik, siis jumalast (hea)
2 July 2017 01:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 July 2017 01:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
maru vaevu suudame taltsutada sellsit häbematust ja asja nähes mida plaanitud ja mida tehtud
https://youtu.be/UUSvyVfm3Bo .. aga kes pplaksutab suvaliselt v veel vilistab sellise naise peale... saaalis koos teistega ilma, et 100% tähelepnu saaks... see lubamatu!
Sellised mehed kohapeal lasti vanasti maha
OIH, ajasin sassi... motlesin, et Kare Kauks hakkab laulma
nu siis lihtsalt matsid
https://youtu.be/UUSvyVfm3Bo .. aga kes pplaksutab suvaliselt v veel vilistab sellise naise peale... saaalis koos teistega ilma, et 100% tähelepnu saaks... see lubamatu!
Sellised mehed kohapeal lasti vanasti maha
OIH, ajasin sassi... motlesin, et Kare Kauks hakkab laulma
nu siis lihtsalt matsid
https://youtu.be/UUSvyVfm3Bo
2 July 2017 01:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 July 2017 01:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tirulilu ja plaksutamisega likvideeritaxe hääl...
2 July 2017 01:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ega ta enda hääl see mis Loodud
2 July 2017 01:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kujutate ette kui ilma heli muusika rikkkkumiseta ta hääle puhad versioonid salvestatud
kotgemas tasemes saad aru, muusikariistad võistlevad ja võltslauljad imiteerivad
kotgemas tasemes saad aru, muusikariistad võistlevad ja võltslauljad imiteerivad
2 July 2017 01:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eh sis 80 nada, 2010+ asemel
2 July 2017 01:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oluline on hoia teda silmades https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FxkvVnNhxg SELLISES kui kuulata seda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcq6edIakoI&list=PLbtUAOUSCuamol1CHLZNxxQ51fHZ6HIxt&index=5
muude videodega hingelisust matta pyytakse
muude videodega hingelisust matta pyytakse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FxkvVnNhxg
2 July 2017 01:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muude laulude vahel ka se ehirmus kitarri pinin mida ta taluma pidi ja electro
2 July 2017 01:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aliens can do
2 July 2017 00:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this video is not real , just cose eyes imagine, hear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV7nGdRIkzY&list=PLbtUAOUSCuamol1CHLZNxxQ51fHZ6HIxt&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV7nGdRIkzY&list=PLbtUAOUSCuamol1CHLZNxxQ51fHZ6HIxt&index=2
2 July 2017 00:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
instead video on it
2 July 2017 00:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
hear voice
2 July 2017 00:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV7nGdRIkzY&list=PLbtUAOUSCuamol1CHLZNxxQ51fHZ6HIxt&index=2 entire video sould not be so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV7nGdRIkzY&list=PLbtUAOUSCuamol1CHLZNxxQ51fHZ6HIxt&index=2
2 July 2017 00:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
at times, of what She really wanted to say
2 July 2017 00:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
even mahavok to much guitar uses
2 July 2017 00:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siiis teate vaaadaa kas kuskil veeel valu mida kaitsta
2 July 2017 00:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(HOMME näidatakse või millal iganes, et asajd kõik tavapärased)
2 July 2017 00:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
VAID IKKA SIIRAD JA AUSAD, SIIN LINK MIS LOOD KÕIK 16 MÄNGIB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwD6nZPQ_Ns&list=PLbtUAOUSCuamol1CHLZNxxQ51fHZ6HIxt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwD6nZPQ_Ns&list=PLbtUAOUSCuamol1CHLZNxxQ51fHZ6HIxt
2 July 2017 00:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
AGA MITTE KURJAST KARAVANI IBA JA ILA KUULATA
THIS REALLY BAD, CAN BE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTXxU0ihi8M&index=8&list=RDzwD6nZPQ_Ns#t=35.685 AND INSULTING TO ADD TOP OF LAST SONG, YT CAN BE SUED FOR THAT
THIS REALLY BAD, CAN BE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTXxU0ihi8M&index=8&list=RDzwD6nZPQ_Ns#t=35.685 AND INSULTING TO ADD TOP OF LAST SONG, YT CAN BE SUED FOR THAT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTXxU0ihi8M&index=8&list=RDzwD6nZPQ_Ns#t=35.685
2 July 2017 00:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
piletiDraama
2 July 2017 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
meie armastuse suurust osata seletada neile et nad meid kaista oskaks nagu omade eest @Song .... UK oma /hobbo hilton
2 July 2017 00:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
KUlla Proov 583
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEfY9SnjV1I&index=8&list=RDzwD6nZPQ_Ns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEfY9SnjV1I&index=8&list=RDzwD6nZPQ_Ns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEfY9SnjV1I&index=8&list=RDzwD6nZPQ_Ns
2 July 2017 00:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
suubtiitriteks sobib isegi kui muud ei ole koigeloppu igale tiitrile lopuks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVfPf006Vw0&index=7&list=RDzwD6nZPQ_Ns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVfPf006Vw0&index=7&list=RDzwD6nZPQ_Ns
2 July 2017 00:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
("reliikvia vaba laps laul ka siia)
2 July 2017 00:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(selles realsuses dimesnioonis, kus aga see rahu veel säilitatud, et üldse saaks vabaks sündida, on vaja yht vaba inimestki kasvõi ainusat kes valeesse uskumaple jääänud ega poliitkasse vaidainult armastuse suunas )
2 July 2017 00:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
arusaadev
2 July 2017 00:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see , et laulupeole vihma nõitumine ja tantsupeo atendaadi korraldamine, on elementaarselt lihtsalt arusaadav
2 July 2017 00:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Pidage meeles "artwoody" ja https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgVHi3X-2QU&list=RDzwD6nZPQ_Ns&index=5 neid ... mis miut reaalsus kihti nende vahel on reaalses maailmas vahet enne kui sinnani kokkupuude tuleb ja mis ssiis saab, kui nende reaalsuste eest ennasyt eemale laulda ei suuda enam
(aa vot ei kirjuta tõlget vaidarusaamu endavajduste pidi edasi ikka, ja alati ootamas interactioone asjade liikutamiseks, informatii)
(aa vot ei kirjuta tõlget vaidarusaamu endavajduste pidi edasi ikka, ja alati ootamas interactioone asjade liikutamiseks, informatii)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgVHi3X-2QU&list=RDzwD6nZPQ_Ns&index=5
2 July 2017 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Pidage meeles, MIDA kaitsevad NAD sust eemal hoiavad need nijad,
kes eelmsites lauludes, mis ilmad need on kus nad on, ja mida parandada "
Tõlkes:
kes eelmsites lauludes, mis ilmad need on kus nad on, ja mida parandada "
Tõlkes:
2 July 2017 00:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
2 July 2017 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
every thing you ORDER other human to do,
is mooving ONE away fro mones life path, so make sure you moove it to direction you 2 highest levels agree is good difrction
is mooving ONE away fro mones life path, so make sure you moove it to direction you 2 highest levels agree is good difrction
2 July 2017 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on Vian vouar so's video.
Do You understand the video importance ?
2 July 2017 00:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
if you look this video NOW AGAIN :
https://www.facebook.com/VianVouarSo/videos/vb.752875638193031/765288453618416/?type=2&theater
DID You understand that there is another worlds who do not understand this same time and some who are from another millitary command line.. and can You imaine literally as large dif dimension it is meant to be
that is differnet
what is done and what is reacted to and what is not noticed
https://www.facebook.com/VianVouarSo/videos/vb.752875638193031/765288453618416/?type=2&theater
DID You understand that there is another worlds who do not understand this same time and some who are from another millitary command line.. and can You imaine literally as large dif dimension it is meant to be
that is differnet
what is done and what is reacted to and what is not noticed
2 July 2017 00:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Did u look my S.A. Sautafricsa albums?`?
2 July 2017 00:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
from all dimensional dangers and worries,
mentioned in dravings and video story in lyrics last video about NINJA and what sisters also need, from future hero and from brother same time seems conflict., on between differnet videos, as HOW they can be still real you ask, wondered?
mentioned in dravings and video story in lyrics last video about NINJA and what sisters also need, from future hero and from brother same time seems conflict., on between differnet videos, as HOW they can be still real you ask, wondered?
2 July 2017 00:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
to be belivable protECTION
2 July 2017 00:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ad what he have to stand up to to skcrethem away
2 July 2017 00:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In video:
Older brother, not ordinary Cristian to say at least
Can SMELL (telepathy metaphor and gut feeling metaphor,)
THE bad, real bad
Older brother, not ordinary Cristian to say at least
Can SMELL (telepathy metaphor and gut feeling metaphor,)
THE bad, real bad
2 July 2017 00:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
he also and friends dared to step against forced sircumsation on ange 19 as is forced cosum in these arias for who really wanna be a man
1 July 2017 23:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
can you now imagine this video directly, whit out soft calming own and explaining hes backround so past can not be hijacked so eaxsy
1 July 2017 23:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just imagine artwood all drawings on wall for starters as direct
1 July 2017 23:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
take it easi everything on the page can be fake as can be fake on picture, do not run on conclusions !
1 July 2017 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just the post time and :
1 July 2017 23:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1 July 2017 23:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1 July 2017 23:20
Margus Meigo commented on Mati Olen Oja's post.
Group: EMAPUU KOGUKOND
Tubli!1 July 2017 22:05
Margus Meigo replied to Ave Kassia Tee's comment.
Group: EMAPUU KOGUKOND
HULLUDE MUlje jätsid need trallavad kaitsjad seal (meedia aitas jätta, sest noored ei saanud aru mida ja miks filmitakse), SELLES ongi asi,
tehke katet, örge öelge kus poolel olete, ka küsige enamuse üle 50 aastaste maa inimete käest, eriti veel Tallina TV vaatajate (üle 1/3 eestist) käest,
millega oli tegu ja mis sorti inimesed sela olid... olen siiani kõikidelt MAA inimestelt, kes 60 ligi, saanud vastuseid, et tegu oli karja lollide ja hulludega, Sõna otseses mõttes NII on öeldud, see on TEGELIK imago,
sest nad vanadena saavad aru, et hõreda lauluga enda vabast ajast, hobi korras, ei peata ühtegi linttraktorit kui sellel rahamaitse suus1 July 2017 21:58
Margus Meigo replied to Andreas Kõrgend's comment.
Group: EMAPUU KOGUKOND
Mati Oja Hakka reaalseks mati nüüd, me räägime ASJALIKUST rünnakust, mitte mingi labidaga ei lähe mööda pead andma suvaliselt,
Seda tuleb alles siis teha kui muud üle ei jää.
Päris hä Hakka reaalseks mati nüüd, me räägime ASJALIKUST rünnakust, mitte mingi labidaga ei lähe mööda pead andma suvaliselt, ud hoiavad linnamajades inimeste MEELI ja südameid iniemstena, SEE on põhjus miks need maha võetakse ja miks teed sinna peale planeeritakse,
lisaks veel valesse kohtade maja ehitamine mis tuleviku plaane arvesse ei võta ... kuid jah, eelkõige on teada, et nad on LOODUSE ehk ka INIMESE vastased jõud kes neid lipsumehi kasutab suurrelvadena,
lopus nad palju hullemaid asju su kodus teevad, ja sult hääle ära võtavad, öeldes, et sul pole õigus appi karjuda,
me peame ennetama ja ette nägema,
üle eesti väikesied salkasi teatud tegevuskes sigineb jubapalju,
kes on signaalide uuriate silmist ja arusaamast väljas, kuid teatud grupid PEAVAD ka avaliku asju tegema ja tarka jõukasutust näitama, emotsioone talitsema, kuid mitte siin meie maal, VEEL võidetava vaenlase ees juba varakult lömitama hakkama, kuni ta üle pea on kasvanud,
Kui sa oma poega varakult ei karista karmi sõna JA ka teoga suure eksimuse eest, siis sellest päris inimest ei saa ka kasvada, inimeste vastased olendid kasvavad siis enamasti
osad oma emade vastu kasvõi lähevad, sest hakkavad uskuma utoopiat, et kõilk on suhteline1 July 2017 21:56
Margus Meigo replied to Kalli Nishan Priya's comment.
Group: EMAPUU KOGUKOND
Nad teevad vägivalda ja kui karta käsi mustaks saada, siis vallutajad jäävatki pehmikuid vallutama, see nende strateeegia aasta tuhandeid olnud mis edasi viib,
Nagu ma ütlesin, tuleb hoiduda HALVA tegemisest, nagu politseid ei tohi rünnata jne
Need kes su kodumaad ründavad ja näkku irvitavad, neile pang solki kalea visata, pole mingi vägivald, vaid vähegenegi mida teha saame,
Vastaseid tuleb ka emotsionaalselt ja psüholoogiliselt kurnata lisaks resursside ja aja peale astudes, südame koputades1 July 2017 21:50
Margus Meigo replied to Ave Kassia Tee's comment.
Group: EMAPUU KOGUKOND
Meie peatame kurjust, nad teevad ja tegid kurjust
ME paljastame kurjust, nad proovivad varjata kurjust,
ME räägime ausust nad vassivad
Me teeme sest hoolime, nad sest EI hooli,
Me ei tee seda raha vaid elu pärast, nad teevad raha mitte elu
Me proovime neid mõtlema panna ja siiralt loodame, et nad haiget ei saa, nad eelistavad, et inimesed ei mõtleks sellele ja vigasaamine mida tekitavad on "paratamatus" kui õigusenõudjad ette jäävad
Nad on võimu poolel ebaeestilikult, me proovime võimu enda poolele saada, et õiget eestit hoida!
Ja sedasi edasi
Nende taga võõrmaade võimud, meie taga Kodumaa1 July 2017 21:47
Margus Meigo replied to Ave Kassia Tee's comment.
Group: EMAPUU KOGUKOND
Need EI Ole ju sarnased vahendid1 July 2017 21:44
Margus Meigo replied to Andreas Kõrgend's comment.
Group: EMAPUU KOGUKOND
Veel intelligensemalt kui inimese hingele teada anda, et nad on looduse/jumala/inimeste vastu astunud?
Ave Tee ilmselgelt,
kuid ei tasu naiivne olla ja arvata, et seaduslikul tasandil ainult saab.
Enne tuleb seadused paika saada, enne nendele täielikult allumist ja nendele lootmist.
Seadused nagu mäletad, sõideti testiks üle, 3-4 tõsist erinevat punkti sõideti üle, vabalt.
neil see oli rahva meelsuse testi proov ka,
seadused nad niisama testiks võivad enda ette siduda, jätmaks mulje,et nüüd on korras, kuid siinkohal tuleb meeles pidada, et nad said teada, et rahvas suht vähe reaalselt midagi teeb ja eelkõige... need kes kuritööga kaasa astusid.. nendel on vaja ka, et teadmine kohale jõuaks.
Loomlikult tuleb kõikidel muudel tasanditel KA tegeleda, nagu aru saada, et me riik on okupeeritud jms ,
(mitte metafooriliselt, vaid meelsuselt)
kuid eelkõige, INIM kontakti peame Ka säilitama, reaalselt tegema lihtsaid odavaid asju mis igale inimesele käepärane ja ALATI efektiivne olnud jätmaks mälestus, ja pannes inimesi vastutust tundma,
Kuid1 July 2017 21:43
Margus Meigo commented on Thrive Cannabis Marketplace's photo.
Looks practical
1 July 2017 21:33
Margus Meigo commented on 420's post.
People are to drunk or to brain damaged to miss proper choice/option
1 July 2017 21:32
Margus Meigo commented on Edward Cousins's post.
looks like the thing
1 July 2017 21:28
Margus Meigo replied to Gage Phillips's comment.
Allar Kaljundi U to
1 July 2017 21:26
Margus Meigo replied to Fredré Searle's comment.
Warm
1 July 2017 21:18
Margus Meigo commented on Counter PsyOps's post.
is it telepathy related that USA got? OR dream hacking that Russia got ?
Or psychic's that Aisia got ? OR shamanism that we got for accessing soul/s?
Or psychic's that Aisia got ? OR shamanism that we got for accessing soul/s?
1 July 2017 21:12
Margus Meigo commented on Counter PsyOps's post.
So tell us more
1 July 2017 21:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Clean versiona as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcMHkvEVgVo&list=RDvcMHkvEVgVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcMHkvEVgVo&list=RDvcMHkvEVgVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcMHkvEVgVo&list=RDvcMHkvEVgVo
1 July 2017 11:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 July 2017 04:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
just for the ones who did not get why is that Christianic,
will tel ya so, the way He took care of Her hair after she tripped out is good enough for me
themes like this to integrate on to covers as that,
this ISiz what we looking for
2B good
will tel ya so, the way He took care of Her hair after she tripped out is good enough for me
themes like this to integrate on to covers as that,
this ISiz what we looking for
2B good
1 July 2017 04:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// O jirre God se Jesus //
Just say what's up, don't try to get so deep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcXNPI-IPPM&index=2&list=RDcegdR0GiJl4
(Apocolypse now, I'm droppin' this bomb
You can't fuck with this song
I'll stick to this spliff, I'm not klapping this bong
I'm a wild child, I don't wanna go to bed
Oh, shit, sorry man, I'm stoned again
Ooh, now everythings getting so psychedelic)
/
Don't worry 'bout it, just blow a kiss to me
I like danger, romance and mystery
I'm a lucky ducky, get mad shit for free
I rock more bling than Mr. T
I make it look easy 'cause it is to me
Just say what's up, don't try to get so deep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcXNPI-IPPM&index=2&list=RDcegdR0GiJl4
(Apocolypse now, I'm droppin' this bomb
You can't fuck with this song
I'll stick to this spliff, I'm not klapping this bong
I'm a wild child, I don't wanna go to bed
Oh, shit, sorry man, I'm stoned again
Ooh, now everythings getting so psychedelic)
/
Don't worry 'bout it, just blow a kiss to me
I like danger, romance and mystery
I'm a lucky ducky, get mad shit for free
I rock more bling than Mr. T
I make it look easy 'cause it is to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcXNPI-IPPM&index=2&list=RDcegdR0GiJl4
1 July 2017 04:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 July 2017 04:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1 July 2017 04:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1 July 2017 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lowe ninjas / greetingz to S.A.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cegdR0GiJl4&list=RDcegdR0GiJl4#t=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cegdR0GiJl4&list=RDcegdR0GiJl4#t=1
1 July 2017 03:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
she is pretty original as well , in a good way,
M.I.A surely to sweet on this league , but alright transition with 10 y rs
Just loading another personality'z for some extra, another works
bitty, if u got brain only to admit One
mind for u
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw5pi9nUGJ8
M.I.A surely to sweet on this league , but alright transition with 10 y rs
Just loading another personality'z for some extra, another works
bitty, if u got brain only to admit One
mind for u
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw5pi9nUGJ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw5pi9nUGJ8
1 July 2017 03:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
for sure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK-xVR_WTdM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK-xVR_WTdM
1 July 2017 03:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" got more records then Natalia Kgb "
Reminds me a bit my old time favorite princess@Mia ()yea, really, she is from high class fam but instead running land started to make muz )
when i remember correct
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewRjZoRtu0Y
Reminds me a bit my old time favorite princess@Mia ()yea, really, she is from high class fam but instead running land started to make muz )
when i remember correct
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewRjZoRtu0Y
1 July 2017 03:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
They alright as well / squat like Sergey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uTMTyqQxl4&list=RDuMK0prafzw0&index=12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uTMTyqQxl4&list=RDuMK0prafzw0&index=12
1 July 2017 03:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Some videos are almost on the edge You start to think .. are you real.. is that really good'?
And then You start to laugh, smile again , ensure, yes that is, They Good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIXUgtNC4Kc&index=3&list=RDuMK0prafzw0
And then You start to laugh, smile again , ensure, yes that is, They Good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIXUgtNC4Kc&index=3&list=RDuMK0prafzw0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIXUgtNC4Kc&index=3&list=RDuMK0prafzw0
1 July 2017 03:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
thats how it can go,
when given to sirbimeestele..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql9-82oV2JE&list=RDSvVO6Y-3CM8&index=5
when given to sirbimeestele..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql9-82oV2JE&list=RDSvVO6Y-3CM8&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql9-82oV2JE&list=RDSvVO6Y-3CM8&index=5
1 July 2017 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
They say we're too yellow bellied (This is love)
But we say we're the new superpower (This is not treason)
They shell dwellings to quell the shellings (This is love)
And lift taboos to seduce the cowards (This is not treason)
We'd rather make our children (We request to negotiate)
Martyrs than murderers (We come to you unarmed)
We'd rather make our children (We desire to communicate)
White Flag Warriors (You cannot do us harm)
//okey, yes you can but...
We seek ways to not be liable (This is love)
We claim to speak for a higher truth (This is not treason)
We stand opposed to the homicidal (This is love)
We tell you you are fire proof (This is not treason)
//okey, in a way... more then physically at same time physically protected by material but physics,
We'd rather make our children (We request to negotiate)
Martyrs than murderers (We come to you unarmed)
We'd rather make our children (We desire to communicate)
Do what you want to our courage
Ask us what you will
Demand from us a sacrifice
But do not make us kill
//or we will, (turn on) you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsgbb23z27w&list=RDSvVO6Y-3CM8
so,
They want sacrifice
They have schemes and ask me to follow their path to the afterlife
I've got an appetite
For nice things and pipe dreams that my enemies could be blasted by
Ooh metaphors
Views that are better for you can't survive or find your competitor
Rise together
Or Fight separate wars I pray I'm never forced to be a predator
Spectres spectate
We won't last
They're glad to hate
When gladiators
Breathe their last
Scream en masse
When the dreams do clash
Like swords in the war
Let me bleed on that
But they feed on that
Say we need strong backs
Call us weak
And don't redeem contracts
But the feast won't last
When this beast attacks
The sons and the fathers
Will be free at last
They see sharks in the estuary
They claim the ark is Bartholomew's
They say war is necessary
But we say war is child abuse
https://genius.com/Flobots-white-flag-warrior-lyrics
They say we're too yellow bellied (This is love)
But we say we're the new superpower (This is not treason)
They shell dwellings to quell the shellings (This is love)
And lift taboos to seduce the cowards (This is not treason)
We'd rather make our children (We request to negotiate)
Martyrs than murderers (We come to you unarmed)
We'd rather make our children (We desire to communicate)
White Flag Warriors (You cannot do us harm)
//okey, yes you can but...
We seek ways to not be liable (This is love)
We claim to speak for a higher truth (This is not treason)
We stand opposed to the homicidal (This is love)
We tell you you are fire proof (This is not treason)
//okey, in a way... more then physically at same time physically protected by material but physics,
We'd rather make our children (We request to negotiate)
Martyrs than murderers (We come to you unarmed)
We'd rather make our children (We desire to communicate)
Do what you want to our courage
Ask us what you will
Demand from us a sacrifice
But do not make us kill
//or we will, (turn on) you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsgbb23z27w&list=RDSvVO6Y-3CM8
so,
They want sacrifice
They have schemes and ask me to follow their path to the afterlife
I've got an appetite
For nice things and pipe dreams that my enemies could be blasted by
Ooh metaphors
Views that are better for you can't survive or find your competitor
Rise together
Or Fight separate wars I pray I'm never forced to be a predator
Spectres spectate
We won't last
They're glad to hate
When gladiators
Breathe their last
Scream en masse
When the dreams do clash
Like swords in the war
Let me bleed on that
But they feed on that
Say we need strong backs
Call us weak
And don't redeem contracts
But the feast won't last
When this beast attacks
The sons and the fathers
Will be free at last
They see sharks in the estuary
They claim the ark is Bartholomew's
They say war is necessary
But we say war is child abuse
https://genius.com/Flobots-white-flag-warrior-lyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsgbb23z27w&list=RDSvVO6Y-3CM8
1 July 2017 00:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Do not split the paths!
1 July 2017 00:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
+ german old flag and sümbols...
+ russia current and past symbols and ..
+ russia current and past symbols and ..
1 July 2017 00:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 July 2017 00:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1 July 2017 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
what about the Earth that is occupied so entire species practically is .
30 June 2017 23:22
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
Really, they deny THAT?
That is suspicious, why would anyone refute this kind of allegations that can be accepted lightly .. or not?
That is suspicious, why would anyone refute this kind of allegations that can be accepted lightly .. or not?
30 June 2017 23:20
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
sh1t is abut to get cool,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdmRSnUWT24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdmRSnUWT24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdmRSnUWT24
30 June 2017 22:45
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
You know what they recommend in School ?
that's right, books
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa9aHnI4oKo
that's right, books
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa9aHnI4oKo
30 June 2017 22:36
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
2.10
30 June 2017 22:28
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
jajah, tsekka käes veel väike illuminate confirmed + roman empire viljapead
aa mingi jõhkralt 2 meetrine tunud siin
// https://www.google.ee/search?newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&biw=1162&bih=580&tbm=isch&q=ancient+roman+empire+flag&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4jYqeq-bUAhVHchQKHVT7BMsQhyYIKg
aa mingi jõhkralt 2 meetrine tunud siin
// https://www.google.ee/search?newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&biw=1162&bih=580&tbm=isch&q=ancient+roman+empire+flag&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4jYqeq-bUAhVHchQKHVT7BMsQhyYIKg
https://www.google.ee/search?newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-ab&biw=1162&bih=580&tbm=isch&q=ancient+roman+empire+flag&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4jYqeq-bUAhVHchQKHVT7BMsQhyYIKg
30 June 2017 22:28
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Tegelikult muidugi keskaeg oli kõige suuremate arengute ja valge inimese kultuuri tippude aeg,
renesanse palju ja palju muud... muidugi sinnamaale kuni need luterlased oma metall kiivritega rooma plaanikohaselt meid vabastama tulid
renesanse palju ja palju muud... muidugi sinnamaale kuni need luterlased oma metall kiivritega rooma plaanikohaselt meid vabastama tulid
30 June 2017 22:23
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's photo.
no way :D
30 June 2017 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Andersen's photo.
Vau, see ilu tundub väga kenasti lõhnav!
30 June 2017 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Toomend's post.
Helmed saame päästa, kui aru saame, ja tunnistame milles nad on.,
30 June 2017 19:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EMAPUU KOGUKOND
Ja kui me isegi tegudeni ei jõua, siis südames peaksime aru saama, et see on ELEMNTAARNE normaalsus, sedasi käituda, ja et aga käituksime.. kui ainult kambajõmme, julgust või resurssi ja aega oleks...30 June 2017 18:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EMAPUU KOGUKOND
rünnakute tarvis, kasutage ka humalst või mujalt varutud riideid ja jalatseid mida tavaleus ei kana,
Töörõivad st, müts hoitke peas30 June 2017 18:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EMAPUU KOGUKOND
moistlikuse piires valige ka krypeeritud suhtlusvahendid ja muud neti asukohad omavahel kordineerimiseks,
sest seda võidakse terrorismivastase seadusega piirama hakata,
kui rahvas iseteadlikuks saab
seega hoitke teravat piiri,
ärge otseseid kehavigastusi tekitage, ammugi mitte avalikult,
muidu rahatrahvid kaela,
kuid määrida ja muud moodi moraalselt kahjustada saab küll30 June 2017 18:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EMAPUU KOGUKOND
minupoolsed sovitused, mõistlikuks edasisieks tegevuseks,
kui ma vaid resursssidega inimene oleks, siis rahastaks reaalseid rünnakuid selliste pättide vastu
lisaks ei ole ka liias,t mõne otseselt seotud poliitiku ja valetajate suunas, telliskiviga aknast teateid saata,
nad peavad aru saama, et asi on radikaalne ja VÄGA üle piiri mindud,
kuid see on alles soendus ja algegevus, enne kui päris kurjaks läheme30 June 2017 17:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EMAPUU KOGUKOND
ja lisaks pidevalt veel tava inimestena, käia, pildistada, nimesi teada saada, sõimelda,
üks kuu paar tegevust anda vatti,et see saaks olema kõige raskem tööots mida iga töötaja kahetseb, et võttis,
ja mis peab, ja avaldab lõpuks survet.,
ärge kartke liialt, julgustuseks saate kasutada ka psühedeelikume...
suur takistusena saate ka u 20 neliste või enam inim gruppidena peale sõita ja progressi katkestada, siis ei tasu muretseda, et nad saaksid rynnata vastu julgelt..
otse rynnakusse ainult paari-kolmekesi minnes tasub ainult sis ku itead mis tulemus saab olla ja selle üle ei tasu kurta,
suunake põhi jõud mitte korrakitsjate vaid kuritöötajate suunas,
politsei ise ka kurb ja mures mitmeti, et seda lollust, linnavalitsust kaitsma peab.. seega proovige neile otse hinge rääkid,a mitte nende pihta yhtegi roppuse solvangut saata,
kui siis ianult täis saatanate osas, midagi targalt karmi tasub küsida30 June 2017 17:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EMAPUU KOGUKOND
Kui selline mulje jätta, et "neil" võit nii kergelt tuli, siis võid päris kindel olla, et edaspidised võidud tulevad PALJU lihtsamini neil.
Kui teha suurt takistust ja tüütamist, pidevat,
viska kasvõi pangetäis solki - mida rohkem ametniku sarnase inimese pihta kes sääl on seda parem,
kirvega kaableid läbi lüüa , komme läbi torkida ja kiiresti leepsu panna.. ja pisteliselt, kiiresti rünnak ja plehku, liialt suurelt ärge omavahel infot jagage kes mida teeb, hoitke grupid otsetegevuses mitte rohkem kui nelja inimese piires,30 June 2017 17:52
Margus Meigo commented on Rein Vanja's post.
See saama niitsoo siis..
http://www.postimees.ee/2529011/viktor-niitsoo-arvati-isamaaliidust-valja
http://www.postimees.ee/2529011/viktor-niitsoo-arvati-isamaaliidust-valja
http://www.postimees.ee/2529011/viktor-niitsoo-arvati-isamaaliidust-valja
30 June 2017 15:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
keegi veel vaevub seda lisa infot lugema ka v mis ma video juurde kokku panin nii hästi kiiresti ja mõtteid suureks viivalt kui traktiline tundus, lihtsaimini
30 June 2017 00:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// miks miks miks
https://soundcloud.com/capj/capj-hinge-galerii
--
Vaata mäeltate, kuids meil lubati alkoholi lauludes promoda... nagu nii umbes 500+ laulus, Otseselt,
kuid peetakse probleemiks sellist laulu ; https://soundcloud.com/jayd-1-1/feikii-suitseta ?
https://soundcloud.com/capj/capj-hinge-galerii
--
Vaata mäeltate, kuids meil lubati alkoholi lauludes promoda... nagu nii umbes 500+ laulus, Otseselt,
kuid peetakse probleemiks sellist laulu ; https://soundcloud.com/jayd-1-1/feikii-suitseta ?
https://soundcloud.com/capj/capj-hinge-galerii
30 June 2017 00:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis ka Radikaalselt saad aru, et Aeg..
( Tegelikult saab, kuid öeldi: "õnneks ei saa tagasi minna ...mitte kunagi " https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-nneks-ei-saa-tagasi-minna )
et aega..
Aeg Endale ... aega on, aega on.. meil, milles tagasi liikuda ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOcuDcobZ6w&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=42 )
( Tegelikult saab, kuid öeldi: "õnneks ei saa tagasi minna ...mitte kunagi " https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-nneks-ei-saa-tagasi-minna )
et aega..
Aeg Endale ... aega on, aega on.. meil, milles tagasi liikuda ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOcuDcobZ6w&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=42 )
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-nneks-ei-saa-tagasi-minna
30 June 2017 00:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Peaasi, et kuuseriisikad, meeles hoiad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiA49--FMIU
Selline olukord, kus meie Top Level valitsuse kooslus, peab seeni promoma noortele (ei mitte neile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EkBk9qnK50&list=RD4EkBk9qnK50 )
ja noored kergekäeliselt, peaaegu ,et panevad A'd ja seened smasse patta.
//@Silma A Seen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiA49--FMIU
Selline olukord, kus meie Top Level valitsuse kooslus, peab seeni promoma noortele (ei mitte neile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EkBk9qnK50&list=RD4EkBk9qnK50 )
ja noored kergekäeliselt, peaaegu ,et panevad A'd ja seened smasse patta.
//@Silma A Seen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiA49--FMIU
30 June 2017 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oli sedasi,
"Mul oli sõber, ma ei räägi endast"
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-le-7-e-ja-seene-k-ik-on
"Mul oli sõber, ma ei räägi endast"
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-le-7-e-ja-seene-k-ik-on
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-le-7-e-ja-seene-k-ik-on
30 June 2017 00:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oih, Õige Teaduse , Õiguse Teaduse .. Wau.. kus on alles, Level
30 June 2017 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Janile info edastatud, ootame Õiglase Teaduse asjakohast vastutusrohket vastust
// märkeks , kui meil/kõne meelest lääb .. sest kes see FB ikka tsekkab (E-Mail: jaan.ginter@ut.ee. Phone: 737 5391. Mobile phone: 516 4273 (5973). Degree: knd. Work title: Professor)
// märkeks , kui meil/kõne meelest lääb .. sest kes see FB ikka tsekkab (E-Mail: jaan.ginter@ut.ee. Phone: 737 5391. Mobile phone: 516 4273 (5973). Degree: knd. Work title: Professor)
30 June 2017 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
See anunaki promo on roccadeenda promo, et inimesed hakkaksid uskuma, et nadsellel tasemel.
Kid lopuks.. enamusele meist jääb ainult valida, milline seapõrsas me oleme, need kes nisa ei saa (kes sündides nimu ei saa) jäävad unustusse, sest neid ei saa olemas olema
Kid lopuks.. enamusele meist jääb ainult valida, milline seapõrsas me oleme, need kes nisa ei saa (kes sündides nimu ei saa) jäävad unustusse, sest neid ei saa olemas olema
29 June 2017 23:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aa, siin nimi ka, Jaan Ginter, kutsume vestlusele, ehk ei bänni nii kiirelt kui siin mõned keskerakonna poliitikud ja skaibi-nasa vennad kes mõtlesid sõna sekka öelda aga eksisivad liialt oma eksimust mitte tunnistada julgedes, et saaks edasiset nõu suundi uurida
https://www.ut.ee/et/uudised/oigusteaduskonna-dekaaniks-valiti-prof-jaan-ginter
(te läbi vahepuffri joksutajad, LÄG on liialt tuntav, kahjuks)
https://www.ut.ee/et/uudised/oigusteaduskonna-dekaaniks-valiti-prof-jaan-ginter
(te läbi vahepuffri joksutajad, LÄG on liialt tuntav, kahjuks)
https://www.ut.ee/et/uudised/oigusteaduskonna-dekaaniks-valiti-prof-jaan-ginter
29 June 2017 23:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Oih, see st: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nponEugdvKI&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=47
(eelmine ka osaliselt teema, palju viisakama liigi osas aga)
(eelmine ka osaliselt teema, palju viisakama liigi osas aga)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nponEugdvKI&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=47
29 June 2017 23:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ahjaa, ekre algusaegade osas, tahtsin öelda, siis oli lausa pool naljakas mismoodi olid asjad läbinäha, sest võõrkultuur ikka ei suuda kohe naturaalselt ennast esitleda,
Eesti asja pidid nad ajama, ja käitusid suures osas ja nägid välja nagu Euro ametnikud ja samasugused lipsumehed, samas vormis, ülikonnas, kui eelmised, .. Hmmm... VB selle pärast Reform kannabki ülikoda edasi, .... et näha kes see lammas järgi tuleb.. et teada värk, kui eestlased ees näitavad siis need kes ei näe järgi pügavad ennast ja rääkima hakkavad ka samamoodi, Umbes sama hooksalt kui need kanamüüad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiA49--FMIU&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=24
Eesti asja pidid nad ajama, ja käitusid suures osas ja nägid välja nagu Euro ametnikud ja samasugused lipsumehed, samas vormis, ülikonnas, kui eelmised, .. Hmmm... VB selle pärast Reform kannabki ülikoda edasi, .... et näha kes see lammas järgi tuleb.. et teada värk, kui eestlased ees näitavad siis need kes ei näe järgi pügavad ennast ja rääkima hakkavad ka samamoodi, Umbes sama hooksalt kui need kanamüüad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiA49--FMIU&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiA49--FMIU&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=24
29 June 2017 22:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
multika algusesse nad kleepinud rikkuva heli jälle, see tüüpiline asjade ümbertegemine ebameeldivuse suunas
29 June 2017 22:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid vähemalt see ajaleht mis nad nüüd välja andisd, on ilma lugemata viisaka suunalise sisuga,
ja peenelt tagasihoidliku kuid peaaegu Liida püüdlevalt maa poolne,
kuid ega karu jahimeest ära ei peta kui kõrvad endale pähe tõmbab. Kuuli saab ikkagi ühtemoodi .
Nähtasvamgi veel (mõni karu arvab, et teeb ennast väikseks ehk nähtamatumaks kui kõrvad põhe tõmbab https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ADFH9mgGAs&index=3&list=PLfRrpf7l9k2w91XDbKX0qpcLj4XsxUQLJ see st )
ja peenelt tagasihoidliku kuid peaaegu Liida püüdlevalt maa poolne,
kuid ega karu jahimeest ära ei peta kui kõrvad endale pähe tõmbab. Kuuli saab ikkagi ühtemoodi .
Nähtasvamgi veel (mõni karu arvab, et teeb ennast väikseks ehk nähtamatumaks kui kõrvad põhe tõmbab https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ADFH9mgGAs&index=3&list=PLfRrpf7l9k2w91XDbKX0qpcLj4XsxUQLJ see st )
29 June 2017 22:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuigi kehastuse järgi, üks teatud deemoni sort mis on omakorda pervoriseerunud , kuid inimkeeli, kui lihtsalt isikuna vaadata, võib ka lihtsalt eksinu olla,
sest isiku enda seltskonna olemuses, suudab ta ka ju rahulikku meeldivust seltskonnas tuua ja sõbralikku kodutunde huumori, lisaks muude kõvemate kihtidega hakkama saav, tänu lisa vaimu omadusele mis külge pookinud,
Kuid kui too... tolle maailma nüüd inimreaalsuse tegelikus lisada... siis ta mugavalt ei pruugi tunda ennast ja lausa kaitseseisundis nurgas alasti hirmu taoline hirm mis siis kaitstud, heasüdamliku kavala ja pool esoteerilise ülbusega
Vaimujuttu:
ja nüüd sellele veel ajutised enda meeles tugevuse järgi valitud poliitsüsteemid, (mida valib ka ta lihtsalt, sest "saab hakkama" ühiskonnas, Einar laigna võttis selliseid lipu vahetamisi väga isiklikult.. kuig ta mõtles rohkem taolisi Ekrelisi ja või muid lipusmehelisi (ROPPSÕNA, need EKRED ENDISELT kannavad lipsu!!! On mõnitus!!! Pidi Eesti Viimane lootus olema ? Kui kaua võib? Mis moodi peaks president julgema õigeid otsusi teha, kui SELLISED olukorrad on ? ... Oravate hing teeks ka selle, kuid nende inteligentsus ei lase, ... need kasvõi kuni 30% vastaseid kes nende oma ridades, isegi ei takista niipalju, kui nende moerne ja samas viisakalt vanamoelisegi silmas viisakas tarkus, ei luba SELLISE ajsa peale rõhku panna kui lipsuvahetus, sest tunduks liialt RADIKAALNE ja väikese olulisega muu tähtsa hulgas, kui seda lihtsalt mingi moe või kaudse ideoloogilise omadusena vaadata, seda lipsu... aga kui nüüd mõelda.. veneajast, kui juba siis oli selge, et see esimesi ühendavaid lylisi KAHE POOLE vahel demokraatias, kes sama meeskond.. see oli esimesi selgeid ühendavaid Jõusi Kom partei ja Kapitalistide samameelsuse osas... mis nüüd euroopa maades NAGU AMEERIKA on taandunud lihtsalt vasaku parema poole vahel ja Kom maades lihtsalt kannavad lipsu, juhtmeid kokkuviimata, et kuidas need KOLM põhijõudu kummardavad ühte sümbolit , lisaks viisnurgale ja enamasti ka kotkale, ja ega nad oma meedias vijapeade reklaamigi täiesti olematuna hoia, UN ist kuni Oskari Kaaladeni jms muusika võistlused. Mis ikka sümboli meeles hoiab kenasti. (siin esoteerikutest ei hakka räääkimagi, kes usuvad see olema energiaimemise kampaania v masshüpnoosi kinnistamine jms kasvõi tuleviku tarvis mini harjutmaine, kui plaanivad lõpuks korraga visata midagi silme ette nendele suurtele masspopulaarsetele saadetele mille sisu saab kergesti inflatreerida ja üle võtta, Kuulasmatki spordisaated saavad selle all olla loomulikult. See selleks ) ))
sest isiku enda seltskonna olemuses, suudab ta ka ju rahulikku meeldivust seltskonnas tuua ja sõbralikku kodutunde huumori, lisaks muude kõvemate kihtidega hakkama saav, tänu lisa vaimu omadusele mis külge pookinud,
Kuid kui too... tolle maailma nüüd inimreaalsuse tegelikus lisada... siis ta mugavalt ei pruugi tunda ennast ja lausa kaitseseisundis nurgas alasti hirmu taoline hirm mis siis kaitstud, heasüdamliku kavala ja pool esoteerilise ülbusega
Vaimujuttu:
ja nüüd sellele veel ajutised enda meeles tugevuse järgi valitud poliitsüsteemid, (mida valib ka ta lihtsalt, sest "saab hakkama" ühiskonnas, Einar laigna võttis selliseid lipu vahetamisi väga isiklikult.. kuig ta mõtles rohkem taolisi Ekrelisi ja või muid lipusmehelisi (ROPPSÕNA, need EKRED ENDISELT kannavad lipsu!!! On mõnitus!!! Pidi Eesti Viimane lootus olema ? Kui kaua võib? Mis moodi peaks president julgema õigeid otsusi teha, kui SELLISED olukorrad on ? ... Oravate hing teeks ka selle, kuid nende inteligentsus ei lase, ... need kasvõi kuni 30% vastaseid kes nende oma ridades, isegi ei takista niipalju, kui nende moerne ja samas viisakalt vanamoelisegi silmas viisakas tarkus, ei luba SELLISE ajsa peale rõhku panna kui lipsuvahetus, sest tunduks liialt RADIKAALNE ja väikese olulisega muu tähtsa hulgas, kui seda lihtsalt mingi moe või kaudse ideoloogilise omadusena vaadata, seda lipsu... aga kui nüüd mõelda.. veneajast, kui juba siis oli selge, et see esimesi ühendavaid lylisi KAHE POOLE vahel demokraatias, kes sama meeskond.. see oli esimesi selgeid ühendavaid Jõusi Kom partei ja Kapitalistide samameelsuse osas... mis nüüd euroopa maades NAGU AMEERIKA on taandunud lihtsalt vasaku parema poole vahel ja Kom maades lihtsalt kannavad lipsu, juhtmeid kokkuviimata, et kuidas need KOLM põhijõudu kummardavad ühte sümbolit , lisaks viisnurgale ja enamasti ka kotkale, ja ega nad oma meedias vijapeade reklaamigi täiesti olematuna hoia, UN ist kuni Oskari Kaaladeni jms muusika võistlused. Mis ikka sümboli meeles hoiab kenasti. (siin esoteerikutest ei hakka räääkimagi, kes usuvad see olema energiaimemise kampaania v masshüpnoosi kinnistamine jms kasvõi tuleviku tarvis mini harjutmaine, kui plaanivad lõpuks korraga visata midagi silme ette nendele suurtele masspopulaarsetele saadetele mille sisu saab kergesti inflatreerida ja üle võtta, Kuulasmatki spordisaated saavad selle all olla loomulikult. See selleks ) ))
29 June 2017 22:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või kui, siis oli see Pühavaim, kes mulle tooaeg just sellise asja silma andis.. kuid proovida, tasub ikkagi
29 June 2017 21:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid proovin uuesti järgi eri valgustes , vaatan kas tuleb miskit , suht kindel, et tuli, sellepärast see nii tuttav tundus
29 June 2017 21:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui anarhistide, pättide, neeger gänskerite ja homodega elasin inglismaa squattides (BBC l isegi uudis sellega oli kui mu nimega googeldada) siis ikka neile sai seda piibli asja kõvasti promotud.. järjekindlalt omas kasmes.. mis neile suts hullumeelne, uudne ja osatigi aksepteeritud oli, paar mormooni käisid ka abis vahepeal, nad olid ainukesed kes sinna juglesid tulla ka.
Et siis kuskil meelte arendamise taimedega, üksaeg miskit sellist avastasin,
Et siis kuskil meelte arendamise taimedega, üksaeg miskit sellist avastasin,
29 June 2017 21:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid siin eriti kena
29 June 2017 21:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ardi Tedrekin mul endal ka midagi taolist kuskil pildistatud
29 June 2017 21:50
Margus Meigo commented on Ardi Tedrekin's photo.
väga kena pilt muidu, eriti kuidas rist südame teeb
29 June 2017 21:48
Margus Meigo commented on Ardi Tedrekin's photo.
Olulisem on, Mida JUMAL on ütelnud,
ja ütleb ja ootab meilt
ja ütleb ja ootab meilt
29 June 2017 21:48
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Andrus's comment.
Tere! Muidu kena eks?
29 June 2017 21:29
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Bdw, Andreas Õ Kõrgend on pildi autor Allar Kaljundi
29 June 2017 21:28
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
Anne-Mari Anderson nu siis oli abiks seegi
29 June 2017 21:26
Margus Meigo replied to Karin Paulus's comment.
valge suhkur on täiesti uskumatu, et ei ole keelatud seadusega, toiduainete seas müüa
29 June 2017 21:04
Margus Meigo replied to Annely Akkermann's comment.
kui tarkus ei aita, siis viimases ädas tuleb kaigast anda
29 June 2017 21:02
Margus Meigo replied to Karin Paulus's comment.
säilituseks
29 June 2017 21:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oota, ja mis kultuuri MEIL Euroopast oodata on ??
Greeka-Rooma pederastiat ja kommunistliku lipsumeeste värvikat vallutusmeelsust ?
Greeka-Rooma pederastiat ja kommunistliku lipsumeeste värvikat vallutusmeelsust ?
29 June 2017 20:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu ta ise ju Loodus inimene,
Tark naine, kultuuriliselt kodus, ning pole lipsumeeste kelgunöör.. kuidas ta seda asja sedasi sõnastada saab, paneb sügavalt mõtlema,
Kas see raudtee mitte suurte betoonseintega pole ?
Sinna ei saa isegi normaalselt kive ette kergelt veeretada regulaarselt müstiliste teadmatude tegelaste poolt..
loomatki ei saa üle, seda ometi loodus haridusega inimene ju teadma peaks
Tark naine, kultuuriliselt kodus, ning pole lipsumeeste kelgunöör.. kuidas ta seda asja sedasi sõnastada saab, paneb sügavalt mõtlema,
Kas see raudtee mitte suurte betoonseintega pole ?
Sinna ei saa isegi normaalselt kive ette kergelt veeretada regulaarselt müstiliste teadmatude tegelaste poolt..
loomatki ei saa üle, seda ometi loodus haridusega inimene ju teadma peaks
29 June 2017 20:54
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Toomas Sirge oleneb, kas räägime, oma päris Riigist, Kodumaast, päris Rahvast, päris Eestlastest,
või neid kes ei tegele, oma kodumaa loodusesuunalise süvaarengu ja inimkonna jumalapoole püüdlemisega
või neid kes ei tegele, oma kodumaa loodusesuunalise süvaarengu ja inimkonna jumalapoole püüdlemisega
29 June 2017 20:41
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Nii sooviks, et oskaks seda kommenteerida, aga see nii raske, et ei mõista kuidas:
""Rail Baltic toob Kesk-Euroopa meile ajaliselt lähemale ja loob täiesti uue transpordikoridori. Suurte taristuprojektide puhul ei saagi kõike viimse detailine ette prognoosida, kuid kui me tahame olla kiiremini ja paremini ühendatud meiega sarnasesse väärtusruumi ja ühisesse majandusruumi kuuluvate riikidega, ei saa me endale lubada luksust jätta see ehitamata. Mul on selle otsuse üle hea meel," märkis Kaljulaid. "
""Rail Baltic toob Kesk-Euroopa meile ajaliselt lähemale ja loob täiesti uue transpordikoridori. Suurte taristuprojektide puhul ei saagi kõike viimse detailine ette prognoosida, kuid kui me tahame olla kiiremini ja paremini ühendatud meiega sarnasesse väärtusruumi ja ühisesse majandusruumi kuuluvate riikidega, ei saa me endale lubada luksust jätta see ehitamata. Mul on selle otsuse üle hea meel," märkis Kaljulaid. "
29 June 2017 17:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Metsakaitse: Laastajate Kontaktid ja strat. Siseinfo kogumine .:. Emapuu
Ka hea grupp:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/321102291623006/Eesti Metsa Abiks
29 June 2017 00:41
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
nii see mõte just ongi ka selles videos,
lisaks veel paar dimensiooni (et kuidas selline tegevus tekkinud on), kuid eelkõige just see mida ütlesid, see ka video mõte kuidas kõrgem ja alumine pool koos reostavad lisaks muudele jõududele kelle kaela aetakse .
Need kõrgemate arusaamadega noorte poolt tehtud videod, kes seeni söövad, ja kanept jne, seega sellised arusaamad on taolistele inimestele elementaarsed.
Kahjuks suurem osa noori elab endiselt kommunismis, tänu vanematele, ehk siis tarbivad alkoholi ja suitsu, seente ja kanepite asemel,
seni kuni see elementaarsusei muutu, ei ole ka suurt lootust, et kõrgkultuur ja meie siin alles jääksime
lisaks veel paar dimensiooni (et kuidas selline tegevus tekkinud on), kuid eelkõige just see mida ütlesid, see ka video mõte kuidas kõrgem ja alumine pool koos reostavad lisaks muudele jõududele kelle kaela aetakse .
Need kõrgemate arusaamadega noorte poolt tehtud videod, kes seeni söövad, ja kanept jne, seega sellised arusaamad on taolistele inimestele elementaarsed.
Kahjuks suurem osa noori elab endiselt kommunismis, tänu vanematele, ehk siis tarbivad alkoholi ja suitsu, seente ja kanepite asemel,
seni kuni see elementaarsusei muutu, ei ole ka suurt lootust, et kõrgkultuur ja meie siin alles jääksime
29 June 2017 00:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
endaga sarnasesse arusaama ja edasigi veel.
Mida nendega teha ja mille kausks neid kasutada kes ei soovi ja mis nodega peale hakata kes vastu on,
Neid plaane ammu juba palju endil.. kuid jah, ,eks jõuab
Mida nendega teha ja mille kausks neid kasutada kes ei soovi ja mis nodega peale hakata kes vastu on,
Neid plaane ammu juba palju endil.. kuid jah, ,eks jõuab
28 June 2017 17:12
Margus Meigo commented on Ülo Vooglaid's photo.
Juba olen sääl ammu,
kuid plaani pidama peame, kuidas teised sinna saada
kuid plaani pidama peame, kuidas teised sinna saada
28 June 2017 17:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sisalikudelt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hb7TYWqdaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hb7TYWqdaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hb7TYWqdaA
28 June 2017 00:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
27 June 2017 23:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EMAPUU KOGUKOND
Sisu:
"Haabersti armastatud hõberemmelgat, mida seoses teede ehitusega Tallinna linn maha võtta soovib, on loodusekaitsjad kaitsnud juba mai teisest poolest. Sündmuspaigal käis hommikul kohal politsei, et ajada jõuga minema looduskaitsjaid, andes neile n-ö aega lahkumiseks homme hommikul kuni kella kaheksani. Politsei püüdis paigaldada suuremat aeda, ent kaitsjad suutsid rahumeelses dialoogis politseid veenda, et seda pole vaja.
“Tegemist on sümbolteemaga suuremas transformatsiooniprotsessis. Tulge palun appi seda protsessi rahumeelselt toetama täna ja homme varahommikul ning kel võimalik, tulge palun täna ööseks puu alla valvesse!
Ristmiku väljaehitamiseks nii, et hõberemmelgas jääks elama, on koostatud projekt ning see on esitatud ka ametkondadele. Küsimus on ametkondade senises soovimatuses dialoogi astuda. Ristmiku läbilaskevõime peab paranema, aga selleks on olemas palju kaasaegsemad ja loodusega arvestavad lahendused. Mitte joonlauatrassid, mida meile kõikjal praegu tahetakse peale suruda.
Meil on siin tegemist väiksemas mõõtmes sama protsessiga, mis on käimas Rail Balticu ümber. See Emapuu on praegu ühiskonna jaoks teadvustamise murdepunkt – see on eelkõige vaimne transformatsiooniprotsess, mis väljendub nähtaval kujul selle puu ümber käivas saagas.
Tulge palun rahus ja väes. Me seisame enda ja looduse õiguse eest elule ning seda saab teha ainult keskmes olles ja läbinisti rahumeelselt!“ kirjutab üleskutses remmelga kaitsmiseks muusikateadlane ja ühiskonna transformatsiooniprotsesse uuriv Saale Kareda.27 June 2017 23:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
27 June 2017 23:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EMAPUU KOGUKOND
Alustuseks:
http://www.telegram.ee/eesti/rahvas-on-asunud-vaartusliku-remmelda-kaitsele-mis-on-tallinna-linna-jaoks-oluline
Sisu:
1. Haabersti ringristmiku konstrueerimisega seoses välja antud raieluba nr 27279 lubab raiuda 795 puud. Tänaseks on raiutud samasse lubatud kategooriasse vastavaid puid üle 1218. Hetkel juba ebaseaduslik raiumine jätkub, kuigi raiemaht on absurdselt ületatud.
2. Raieloas on kehtestatud langetatava puu maksimum diameetriks 105 cm. Haabersti hõberemmelga diameeter on 145 cm.
3. Raieloa nr 27279 alusel ei ole lubatud langetada linnupesadega puid. Kõnealloleva remmelga otsas on linnupesa. Tänaseks
on dokumenteeritud 9 puud, mis langetati vaatamata pesitsevatele lindudele.
4. Kõnealloleva hõberemmelga kaitse alla võtmiseks on allkirja andnud praeguseks hetkeks üle 1500 Eestlase ja lisaks ka välisriikide
kodanikud. Tallinna linna institutsioonid on nimetanud kõnealloleva remmelga väga väärtuslikuks puuks. Samuti on Hendrik Relve
eksperthinnangu järgi kõneallolev hõberemmelgas väga väärtuslik puu, mis peaks kindlasti oma loomulikku keskkonda alles jääma.http://www.telegram.ee/eesti/rahvas-on-asunud-vaartusliku-remmelda-kaitsele-mis-on-tallinna-linna-jaoks-oluline
27 June 2017 23:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(emotsioon postitus / pealispind kriitiline vaade )
27 June 2017 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EMAPUU KOGUKOND
elu peab NII kuumaks kogu ta perel tegema, kes selle ette võttis, et kunagi keegi Sellist tegu nii naljat tegema ei lähe,
oleks ta veendumustega inimene, siis veel arusaadev ja austusväärne, oleks rahvale sõnumi andnud miks ta seda tegi, aga seasi rutinselt?
Ette ikka ähvardasite, mis saab selliste inimestega, kes selliseid asju teevad? Oli sellest saemees teadlik või oli ta tõlgita umbkeelne ?27 June 2017 23:21
Margus Meigo commented on Mati Olen Oja's post.
Group: EMAPUU KOGUKOND
Kas see nimi nüüd on teada, pilte tegite, kes see mees on ?27 June 2017 23:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Metsakaitse: Laastajate Kontaktid ja strat. Siseinfo kogumine .:. Emapuu
Miks See grupp siin on suletud:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/112981889294830/
Evendil 50 kutsumist ainult ??
https://www.facebook.com/events/431037723944441/ ?27 June 2017 22:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ühesõnaga, need kes selle asja peale surusid,
nendel pikka nalja pole kogu selle nõiduse kamba ja needuse enda kala tõmbamisega,
Too asi oli sümbol, selles osas kuidas suudame millegi eest seista, kelle poolt ja mida soovime teisiti, ja igal puul tuleb ka vaadata millega ta on seotud ja seotud olnud,
to puu hoidis neid karpmaju inimesi inimestena, naiselikumetana, ja kurja ilmas, anti signaal, et propakanda karbistamise osas, ei toimu piisavalt hästi, sest see puu astus inimeste poolele liialyt suuri samme nendele andes tundeid ja mõtteid ja inimlikust, ... kuid asi veel selles, et sellekogu kohast tee, selle energia kohast, üle ehitada tahetakse, mis tuleb takistada.
Muidugi need palgatud meelega pehmed ja veidrad puukaitsiad.. agendid, kelle loomus oli vajalik asja läbiviimiseks... eks neile antakse andeks, nad ei teadnud mida nad teevad.
"It is a time of initiation and of beginnings and celebrates the renewal of the potency of the Earth Mother and the union with the male principle of the returning light. "
nendel pikka nalja pole kogu selle nõiduse kamba ja needuse enda kala tõmbamisega,
Too asi oli sümbol, selles osas kuidas suudame millegi eest seista, kelle poolt ja mida soovime teisiti, ja igal puul tuleb ka vaadata millega ta on seotud ja seotud olnud,
to puu hoidis neid karpmaju inimesi inimestena, naiselikumetana, ja kurja ilmas, anti signaal, et propakanda karbistamise osas, ei toimu piisavalt hästi, sest see puu astus inimeste poolele liialyt suuri samme nendele andes tundeid ja mõtteid ja inimlikust, ... kuid asi veel selles, et sellekogu kohast tee, selle energia kohast, üle ehitada tahetakse, mis tuleb takistada.
Muidugi need palgatud meelega pehmed ja veidrad puukaitsiad.. agendid, kelle loomus oli vajalik asja läbiviimiseks... eks neile antakse andeks, nad ei teadnud mida nad teevad.
"It is a time of initiation and of beginnings and celebrates the renewal of the potency of the Earth Mother and the union with the male principle of the returning light. "
27 June 2017 20:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
no meaning ,jet, just circle
27 June 2017 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
samal ajal paraleel reaalsuses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg3dRuZVl3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg3dRuZVl3w
26 June 2017 10:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Katoliiklased Eestis
mõtted, ka mõtted on teod, kuid mõttetegu on nagu heinategu, seda peab tegema selleks, et heina kasutusse panna,
niisama pole mõtet26 June 2017 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on Varro Vooglaid's post.
Group: Katoliiklased Eestis
Jumalal pole vaja meie ohverdusi, vaid vajalike tegusi,
seda ka alatimeeles hoida26 June 2017 01:24
Margus Meigo commented on Ivo Õunpuu's post.
Group: Katoliiklased Eestis
Osad vanematki alles hilja veel on saanud teadlikuks, et nad ise Jumala omad26 June 2017 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to Martin Wolfgang Vaher's comment.
Group: Katoliiklased Eestis
vähe sellest, osad usklikud lausa sigarette kimuvad26 June 2017 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on Varro Vooglaid's post.
Group: Katoliiklased Eestis
Võiks alustada lipsu mahajätmisega,
siis parem edasi mõelda, rohkem liikumis vabadust, mida teha saab ja sobib26 June 2017 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
sellest aste edasi : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSCl7S8uTBs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSCl7S8uTBs
26 June 2017 01:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Shareble link, : https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10212236577286349
where You can see views (that is about 136 by now. compared to hundreds of views on complete random videos that should have less appeal )
where You can see views (that is about 136 by now. compared to hundreds of views on complete random videos that should have less appeal )
25 June 2017 12:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this info is from a ordinary women hypnoses
written down by neuroscientists/PHD's of that aria
written down by neuroscientists/PHD's of that aria
25 June 2017 09:43
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's photo.
This is the interview that made me most deeply worry for You,
out of all recordings,
out of all recordings,
25 June 2017 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on Gordon Wilson's post.
Group: Things never or seldom reported in the news.
Suits can help to make greatest change,
starting by loosing a tie , for starters,
whit it will go a lot, that makes world better25 June 2017 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So who is doing these things in Thailand & Africa, also European Union - EU ? Before EU ?
EU needs cleaning, noticed this when was on Charlemagne Prize award representing Estonia, last time when i shaved.
BUt yea, so large concentration of communists is in there, that is hard to set it straight,
hard to see for now how to fix the masonic per-planned sinking of European Union - EU (probably because does not have needed spirit-plants .... )
EU needs cleaning, noticed this when was on Charlemagne Prize award representing Estonia, last time when i shaved.
BUt yea, so large concentration of communists is in there, that is hard to set it straight,
hard to see for now how to fix the masonic per-planned sinking of European Union - EU (probably because does not have needed spirit-plants .... )
24 June 2017 02:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kas oleks võimalik ausalt vastata, et uus testament on Hea ?
Jumalale meelepärane ja vajalik,
ning siis ka, kas see on tõene ?
Ning siis ka, kas on võimalik öelda, jumala ausalt, et ilma ei saa õnsaks (ehk. tarkuse suunast aru mida Jumale vaja)?
Jumalale meelepärane ja vajalik,
ning siis ka, kas see on tõene ?
Ning siis ka, kas on võimalik öelda, jumala ausalt, et ilma ei saa õnsaks (ehk. tarkuse suunast aru mida Jumale vaja)?
23 June 2017 22:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ei kas tõde hea peab olema pole millegagi suurt pistmist kuid ebahead tehes meelega valetades ehku peale ilma teise aitamise soovita kellele pada aeti, on andestamatu,
arvestama peab, et nad kõik me ümber kõrgemad kui olla saame, kuid piisavalt olulised, et peab olema vastatusega kui ümber ollakse
arvestama peab, et nad kõik me ümber kõrgemad kui olla saame, kuid piisavalt olulised, et peab olema vastatusega kui ümber ollakse
23 June 2017 21:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Toomas Sirge Sellele pole mõelnud, kuid Mul on seisukoha võtjate arvates seisukoht (arvatvasti) kus (st. seisuKohaVõtjate arvates) võtan mingeid uskumusi mille najale ennast seisma panna, mille sees seista,
kuid ma oma arust, Tõde
ja teistel on arvamused või arusaamised,
arusaajad selles(arusaamas), kus ise olen Teel,
kuid ma oma arust, Tõde
ja teistel on arvamused või arusaamised,
arusaajad selles(arusaamas), kus ise olen Teel,
23 June 2017 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ma täiesti Hea meelne ja Tõe austaja,
ning absoluutne miinimum on ideaalsus
ning absoluutne miinimum on ideaalsus
23 June 2017 21:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(Hea, ei tähenda, et vajalik)
23 June 2017 21:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(Tõsi, ei tähenda, et hea)
23 June 2017 21:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Toomas Sirge retooriline küsimus v,
kuid kindluse mõttes, küll ei ole vaja riski suurendamiseks, kui kaaluda kas absoluutselt või mitte, seda lisada, lõpus ütleb ära nagunii vanas mis moodi aru saada, kas on tulnud või olnud,
palju kasulikumalt arusaadavam kui uue lõpu isegi arusaamise üritamine ühtlaselt ühtemoodi
kuid kindluse mõttes, küll ei ole vaja riski suurendamiseks, kui kaaluda kas absoluutselt või mitte, seda lisada, lõpus ütleb ära nagunii vanas mis moodi aru saada, kas on tulnud või olnud,
palju kasulikumalt arusaadavam kui uue lõpu isegi arusaamise üritamine ühtlaselt ühtemoodi
23 June 2017 21:29
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
"juba teine mõrv täna, kui nii edasi läheb, siis võtan noa käest ära!"
23 June 2017 21:20
Margus Meigo commented on Edmond Penu's post.
Group: Riigikaitse (tsensuurita)
Defineeri: "Vaenlane / Vaenlased"
Küsiks kohe esimene märkimisväärne kodanik,
Vooglaiu selgitus muidugi aitab sättida, Võimaliku vaenlase põhi piirjooni:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7jNe3yBXFY23 June 2017 21:09
Margus Meigo commented on Edmond Penu's post.
Group: Riigikaitse (tsensuurita)
Mõte oligi, et seda nii hoida,
// aga see reaktsioon esimene on, et: //
" aga see nüüd rikuti ära lõplikult, sellise sildi alla ennast pannes nagu välisluureamet,
mis kuidagi eelnevat suuremat, palju laiema haardega nimeni ei jõua küündida kasulikuse poolt, kui piisavalt suure tulevikuvisiooniga olla...
kui aga ennast sabas sõrkivaks muude ametite osakonnaks muuta, mis Eesti huve ei arvesta otseselt, Esmajärjekorras,
siis muidugi sobib.
Teabeamet ikka niivõrd kordades parem ja laiema haardega, mõnusam nimi nii varjuks kui esinduseks, aga ikka jah... teistemoodi... kenasti23 June 2017 21:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Leaking:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209142936307258&set=gm.1213909568661366&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209142936307258&set=gm.1213909568661366&type=3&theater
23 June 2017 21:00
Margus Meigo commented on Kenneth Akor Akor's photo.
where is mariuanafield
23 June 2017 20:32
Margus Meigo commented on Ilona Ainen's post.
Group: VABAMEELSELT VALLATUD
Kui ta on Tark siis peab olema ju Truu,
muidu ei saa olla, tark23 June 2017 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Nii see on, kahjuks
23 June 2017 19:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov asoo : )
Eks nad sellepärast neid agendasi sedasi ka lahti lasevad
Eks nad sellepärast neid agendasi sedasi ka lahti lasevad
23 June 2017 18:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui nii edasi läheb, siis varsti julgetakse Päris eestlastest ka Päriselt rääkida,
"nu on sisalikud" , irooniat multy tasemel Eesti moodi :; )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hb7TYWqdaA
"nu on sisalikud" , irooniat multy tasemel Eesti moodi :; )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hb7TYWqdaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hb7TYWqdaA
23 June 2017 16:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Just in case someone STILL is on wonder, here is Highest Order .org ending website with official paper about it:
tfmlearning.faa.gov/Publications/atpubs/ATC/BGbasic.html
tfmlearning.faa.gov/Publications/atpubs/ATC/BGbasic.html
23 June 2017 15:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Yess, Üles saime!
Nüüd vaja veel kontrollida, kas on tavapärased vide ovaatamise hulgad mis täitsa tavaliste kännufilmimiste videodega juba tulnud on varem... või on isegi vähem, selliste nimedega ? ?
Nüüd vaja veel kontrollida, kas on tavapärased vide ovaatamise hulgad mis täitsa tavaliste kännufilmimiste videodega juba tulnud on varem... või on isegi vähem, selliste nimedega ? ?
23 June 2017 15:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu kuni vanatestamendini
23 June 2017 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Let's see how long this will last in here : )
RELATED / SEOTUD minu 5 enda Juuni postitusega, sest temast, ja tema ülestunnistusest, oli otse ka meie populaarsemas ajalehes eraldi artikkel mis sinna lehte häkiti kuidagi, ilma nimeta, ... kuid ikkagi, päris suur hulk sellest ei julgenud aru saada, mida see tähendab.
Ja kui oleme nüüd aluseks võtnud, et Maailma juhtivamatel kohtadel, PALJU pikemla ja tähtsamatel kohtadel kui ajutised presidendid, kui nemad saavad öelda, et nad mitte ei USU vaid TEAVAD, ilma igasuguse kahtluseta, et on olnud nii ja on nii, et tulnarid me seas, miks siis selliste " arvamuste/ viirastuste " eest inimesi ravile suunatakse?
Kas need asjad ehk liiga tuliselt, tuletavad meelde, et Piibel on rohkem kui tõsi
RELATED / SEOTUD minu 5 enda Juuni postitusega, sest temast, ja tema ülestunnistusest, oli otse ka meie populaarsemas ajalehes eraldi artikkel mis sinna lehte häkiti kuidagi, ilma nimeta, ... kuid ikkagi, päris suur hulk sellest ei julgenud aru saada, mida see tähendab.
Ja kui oleme nüüd aluseks võtnud, et Maailma juhtivamatel kohtadel, PALJU pikemla ja tähtsamatel kohtadel kui ajutised presidendid, kui nemad saavad öelda, et nad mitte ei USU vaid TEAVAD, ilma igasuguse kahtluseta, et on olnud nii ja on nii, et tulnarid me seas, miks siis selliste " arvamuste/ viirastuste " eest inimesi ravile suunatakse?
Kas need asjad ehk liiga tuliselt, tuletavad meelde, et Piibel on rohkem kui tõsi
23 June 2017 15:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Logan: “Do you believe in aliens?”
Bigelow: “I’m absolutely convinced. That’s all there is to it.”
Logan: “Do you also believe that UFOs have come to Earth?”
Bigelow: “There has been and is an existing presence, an ET presence. And I spent millions and millions and millions ― I probably spent more as an individual than anybody else in the United States has ever spent on this subject.”
Logan: “Is it risky for you to say in public that you believe in UFOs and aliens?”
Bigelow: “I don’t give a damn. I don’t care.”
Logan: “You don’t worry that some people will say, ‘Did you hear that guy, he sounds like he’s crazy’?”
Bigelow: “I don’t care. It’s not gonna make a difference. It’s not gonna change reality of what I know.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/aerospace-executive-apos-absolutely-convinced-081547039.html
// sometimes have to make effort to get videos posted that are whit out a censor some how not available.. also not available in Youtube and other profiles, pages, .. that should share usually these kind of things on mass scale..
OKey, my 3'd update, 3'd try .. lets see if album accepts these videos now..
Bigelow: “I’m absolutely convinced. That’s all there is to it.”
Logan: “Do you also believe that UFOs have come to Earth?”
Bigelow: “There has been and is an existing presence, an ET presence. And I spent millions and millions and millions ― I probably spent more as an individual than anybody else in the United States has ever spent on this subject.”
Logan: “Is it risky for you to say in public that you believe in UFOs and aliens?”
Bigelow: “I don’t give a damn. I don’t care.”
Logan: “You don’t worry that some people will say, ‘Did you hear that guy, he sounds like he’s crazy’?”
Bigelow: “I don’t care. It’s not gonna make a difference. It’s not gonna change reality of what I know.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/aerospace-executive-apos-absolutely-convinced-081547039.html
// sometimes have to make effort to get videos posted that are whit out a censor some how not available.. also not available in Youtube and other profiles, pages, .. that should share usually these kind of things on mass scale..
OKey, my 3'd update, 3'd try .. lets see if album accepts these videos now..
https://www.yahoo.com/news/aerospace-executive-apos-absolutely-convinced-081547039.html
23 June 2017 15:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
As expected, the Links, do not Enable them self in here,
Thew report it self, if from CBS news page, there was full lenght video on their page... for some reason listing 60 minutes by date, this does not show up, searches also not..
just text version is find able
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bigelow-aerospace-founder-says-commercial-world-will-lead-in-space
Thew report it self, if from CBS news page, there was full lenght video on their page... for some reason listing 60 minutes by date, this does not show up, searches also not..
just text version is find able
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bigelow-aerospace-founder-says-commercial-world-will-lead-in-space
23 June 2017 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Sometimes we have to make some re-configuring to get things done, with Love //
Text on first videos that have failed to upload at first:
" Robert Bigelow (only known civilian with goverment highest space authority) in Respected and trusted ˇCBS' 60 Minutesˇ and said he was "absolutely convinced" there have been extraterrestrials on Earth.
Bigelow founded Bigelow Aerospace in 1998,
Bigelow originally licensed the multi-layer, expandable space module technology from NASA in 2000 after Congress canceled the International Space Station (ISS) TransHab project following delays and budget constraints in the late 1990s. Bigelow has three Space Act agreements whereby Bigelow Aerospace is the sole commercializer of several of NASA's key expandable module technologies
In December 2014, the FAA Office of Commercial Space Transportation (AST) completed a review of the proposed Bigelow lunar habitat, and indicated that "it was willing to use its authority to ensure Bigelow could carry out its [lunar] activities ... without interference from other [US] companies licensed by the FAA" [and that the FAA would] use its launch licensing authority, as best it can, to protect private sector assets on the Moon and to provide a safe environment for companies to conduct peaceful commercial activities without fear of harmful interference from other AST licensees."
2013, during execution of the contract to build the Bigelow Expandable Activity Module for the International Space Station, Robert Bigelow indicated that his company manufactures about 50 percent of product content in-house, while subcontracting out the remainder.
In March 2013, Bigelow signed an agreement with NASA to act as "the central link between NASA and dozens of private companies that want to play a role in the creation of a new economy – a space economy, including proposals far more complex than mere space tourism: research, manufacturing, medicine and agriculture. The agreement calls for Bigelow to liaise between NASA and the private sector to see how [the U.S.] government and industry could help each other."[28]
The first deliverable on that contract, a "report which identifies companies that want to be a part of this effort, as well as potential customers", was delivered by Bigelow to NASA in May 2013.
October 2010, Bigelow announced that it had agreements with six sovereign nations to utilize on-orbit facilities of the commercial space station: United Kingdom, Netherlands, Australia, Singapore, Japan and Sweden. In February 2011, Dubai of the United Arab Emirates became the seventh nation to have signed on
In 2011, Bigelow employed an in-house team of model makers, coming from the film and architecture industries, to make detailed models of their space habitats and space stations. Scale models were sent to "potential customers, including governments and corporations, as a reminder of the possibilities
company advertised more than 100 jobs in 2015 at both its North Las Vegas headquarters and its newly established propulsion department in Huntsville, Alabama
Further staff reductions occurred at the start of 2016 / 2013 had grown to US$250 million of his personal fortune. Bigelow stated on multiple occasions that he was prepared to fund Bigelow Aerospace with up to about US$500 million through 2015 in order to achieve launch of full-scale hardware
___
The Bigelow Next-Generation Commercial Space Station is a private orbital space complex currently under development by Bigelow. The space station will include both Sundancer and BA 330 expandable spacecraft modules and a central docking node, propulsion, solar arrays, and attached crew capsules. Initial launch of space station components was planned for 2014
Bigelow's business model requires a means of transporting humans to and from low Earth orbit. In 2004 Bigelow established and funded a US$50 million prize, America's Space Prize, to stimulate development of manned vehicles. The prize expired without a winner in early 2010
Bigelow entered NASA's Commercial Crew Development (CCDev) program with the CST-100 capsule in collaboration with Boeing.
___
Honors:
Bigelow Aerospace has received several honors for its spaceflight efforts. On October 3, 2006, Bigelow Aerospace received the Innovator Award from the Arthur C. Clarke Foundation.[68] The award recognizes "initiatives or new inventions that have had recent impact on or hold particular promise for satellite communications and society, and stand as distinguished examples of innovative thinking." Robert Bigelow was presented the award at the Arthur C. Clarke Awards in Washington D.C. alongside Walter Cronkite, who was honored on the same night with the Arthur C. Clarke Lifetime Achievement Award.
On January 26, 2007, the Space Foundation announced that Bigelow Aerospace would be the recipient of its 2007 Space Achievement Award
___
IN computer terms: " network intrusion detection systems (NIDS) and host-based intrusion detection systems (HIDS) "
___
" In 1995, Bigelow founded the National Institute for Discovery Science to research and advance study of various fringe sciences and paranormal topics, most notably ufology. The organization researched cattle mutilation and black triangle reports, ultimately attributing the latter to the military. The institute was disbanded in 2004 to make room for BAASS "
// BAAS in Estonian: Base
-
" NIDs has been dismantled, however it has been reborn by the much larger entity which boasts even more PHD scientists and ample security guards under the umbrella of B.A.A.S.S. Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS)
which now operates as a entirely seperate entity from Bigelow Aerospace. "
http://www.bigelowaerospace.com/careers/
( from permanent PLANET Earth Highest Order Aviation / airspace manager organisation:
https://tfmlearning.faa.gov/Publications/atpubs/ATC/BGbasic.html (US Dep. Of Transp. / Federal Aviation Admin. / Air Trafic Organization Policy ) )
. "According to the last order by Federal Aviation Administration—issued on December 10— B.A.A.S.S. is now the organization to contact if you are a pilot or an air traffic controller who gets close to an Unidentified Flying Object: Persons wanting to report UFO/unexplained phenomena activity should contact a UFO/ unex plained phenomena reporting data collection center, such as Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS)" "NIDS is now defunct and has been replaced by the larger, more capable BAASS," says the FAA. "Therefore, pilot and air traffic control reporting of UFOs in the United States should now go to BAASS, vice NIDS." This would make BAASS the ONLY civilian organization *ever* to have goverment authority to have all F.A.A. ufo reports send directly to BAASS headquarters.
FAA: "Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS), a sister company to Bigelow Aerospace, is a research organization that focuses on the identification, evaluation, and acquisition of novel and emerging future technologies worldwide as they specifically relate to spacecraft. BAASS is headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada. We are seeking experienced scientists to join our research teams. If you are an inquisitive outside of the circle thinker, who is detail oriented and looking for a challenge, this is a unique and exciting opportunity to advance your career and be a part of cutting edge research." / 2010
// Wiki: "they have a team of PHD scietists and a army of security personel working for them chasing paranormal reports around the world. They are now the civilian version of project blue book and unlike the goverment they dont have to release their findings to anyone "
NIDs / NIDSci: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institute_for_Discovery_Science
http://www.bigelowaerospace.com/careers/
http://forum.bigelowaerospace.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=12
Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) (voice: 1-877-979-7444 or e-mail: Reporting@baass.org),
the National UFO Reporting Center
Text on first videos that have failed to upload at first:
" Robert Bigelow (only known civilian with goverment highest space authority) in Respected and trusted ˇCBS' 60 Minutesˇ and said he was "absolutely convinced" there have been extraterrestrials on Earth.
Bigelow founded Bigelow Aerospace in 1998,
Bigelow originally licensed the multi-layer, expandable space module technology from NASA in 2000 after Congress canceled the International Space Station (ISS) TransHab project following delays and budget constraints in the late 1990s. Bigelow has three Space Act agreements whereby Bigelow Aerospace is the sole commercializer of several of NASA's key expandable module technologies
In December 2014, the FAA Office of Commercial Space Transportation (AST) completed a review of the proposed Bigelow lunar habitat, and indicated that "it was willing to use its authority to ensure Bigelow could carry out its [lunar] activities ... without interference from other [US] companies licensed by the FAA" [and that the FAA would] use its launch licensing authority, as best it can, to protect private sector assets on the Moon and to provide a safe environment for companies to conduct peaceful commercial activities without fear of harmful interference from other AST licensees."
2013, during execution of the contract to build the Bigelow Expandable Activity Module for the International Space Station, Robert Bigelow indicated that his company manufactures about 50 percent of product content in-house, while subcontracting out the remainder.
In March 2013, Bigelow signed an agreement with NASA to act as "the central link between NASA and dozens of private companies that want to play a role in the creation of a new economy – a space economy, including proposals far more complex than mere space tourism: research, manufacturing, medicine and agriculture. The agreement calls for Bigelow to liaise between NASA and the private sector to see how [the U.S.] government and industry could help each other."[28]
The first deliverable on that contract, a "report which identifies companies that want to be a part of this effort, as well as potential customers", was delivered by Bigelow to NASA in May 2013.
October 2010, Bigelow announced that it had agreements with six sovereign nations to utilize on-orbit facilities of the commercial space station: United Kingdom, Netherlands, Australia, Singapore, Japan and Sweden. In February 2011, Dubai of the United Arab Emirates became the seventh nation to have signed on
In 2011, Bigelow employed an in-house team of model makers, coming from the film and architecture industries, to make detailed models of their space habitats and space stations. Scale models were sent to "potential customers, including governments and corporations, as a reminder of the possibilities
company advertised more than 100 jobs in 2015 at both its North Las Vegas headquarters and its newly established propulsion department in Huntsville, Alabama
Further staff reductions occurred at the start of 2016 / 2013 had grown to US$250 million of his personal fortune. Bigelow stated on multiple occasions that he was prepared to fund Bigelow Aerospace with up to about US$500 million through 2015 in order to achieve launch of full-scale hardware
___
The Bigelow Next-Generation Commercial Space Station is a private orbital space complex currently under development by Bigelow. The space station will include both Sundancer and BA 330 expandable spacecraft modules and a central docking node, propulsion, solar arrays, and attached crew capsules. Initial launch of space station components was planned for 2014
Bigelow's business model requires a means of transporting humans to and from low Earth orbit. In 2004 Bigelow established and funded a US$50 million prize, America's Space Prize, to stimulate development of manned vehicles. The prize expired without a winner in early 2010
Bigelow entered NASA's Commercial Crew Development (CCDev) program with the CST-100 capsule in collaboration with Boeing.
___
Honors:
Bigelow Aerospace has received several honors for its spaceflight efforts. On October 3, 2006, Bigelow Aerospace received the Innovator Award from the Arthur C. Clarke Foundation.[68] The award recognizes "initiatives or new inventions that have had recent impact on or hold particular promise for satellite communications and society, and stand as distinguished examples of innovative thinking." Robert Bigelow was presented the award at the Arthur C. Clarke Awards in Washington D.C. alongside Walter Cronkite, who was honored on the same night with the Arthur C. Clarke Lifetime Achievement Award.
On January 26, 2007, the Space Foundation announced that Bigelow Aerospace would be the recipient of its 2007 Space Achievement Award
___
IN computer terms: " network intrusion detection systems (NIDS) and host-based intrusion detection systems (HIDS) "
___
" In 1995, Bigelow founded the National Institute for Discovery Science to research and advance study of various fringe sciences and paranormal topics, most notably ufology. The organization researched cattle mutilation and black triangle reports, ultimately attributing the latter to the military. The institute was disbanded in 2004 to make room for BAASS "
// BAAS in Estonian: Base
-
" NIDs has been dismantled, however it has been reborn by the much larger entity which boasts even more PHD scientists and ample security guards under the umbrella of B.A.A.S.S. Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS)
which now operates as a entirely seperate entity from Bigelow Aerospace. "
http://www.bigelowaerospace.com/careers/
( from permanent PLANET Earth Highest Order Aviation / airspace manager organisation:
https://tfmlearning.faa.gov/Publications/atpubs/ATC/BGbasic.html (US Dep. Of Transp. / Federal Aviation Admin. / Air Trafic Organization Policy ) )
. "According to the last order by Federal Aviation Administration—issued on December 10— B.A.A.S.S. is now the organization to contact if you are a pilot or an air traffic controller who gets close to an Unidentified Flying Object: Persons wanting to report UFO/unexplained phenomena activity should contact a UFO/ unex plained phenomena reporting data collection center, such as Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS)" "NIDS is now defunct and has been replaced by the larger, more capable BAASS," says the FAA. "Therefore, pilot and air traffic control reporting of UFOs in the United States should now go to BAASS, vice NIDS." This would make BAASS the ONLY civilian organization *ever* to have goverment authority to have all F.A.A. ufo reports send directly to BAASS headquarters.
FAA: "Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS), a sister company to Bigelow Aerospace, is a research organization that focuses on the identification, evaluation, and acquisition of novel and emerging future technologies worldwide as they specifically relate to spacecraft. BAASS is headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada. We are seeking experienced scientists to join our research teams. If you are an inquisitive outside of the circle thinker, who is detail oriented and looking for a challenge, this is a unique and exciting opportunity to advance your career and be a part of cutting edge research." / 2010
// Wiki: "they have a team of PHD scietists and a army of security personel working for them chasing paranormal reports around the world. They are now the civilian version of project blue book and unlike the goverment they dont have to release their findings to anyone "
NIDs / NIDSci: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institute_for_Discovery_Science
http://www.bigelowaerospace.com/careers/
http://forum.bigelowaerospace.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=12
Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) (voice: 1-877-979-7444 or e-mail: Reporting@baass.org),
the National UFO Reporting Center
23 June 2017 15:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
I keep posting and uploading these videos in here, but they seem not to come up for some reason, will try again...
23 June 2017 14:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hoopis midagi sellesuunas kasvõi pigem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am0p1vgvBzA ( Lauri Vasar & Lauri Nebel.. )
23 June 2017 13:19
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Alviste's post.
selliste värdparm laulude asemel normaalset muusikat
meie mehe, kuldse trio, "õppind mehed head riistad" jms ajudeta käitumise suunas suunamise asemel südamesse suunamine...
"laulud"... mille sisu, moraal on utoopiline hinge kustutamine läbi pildituks joomise lihtsameelsete trikkide ja manipulatsioonide kaudu ühiskonna madalaimate astmete ergutamise läbi ka enamvähem terveid uskuma pannes, nagu joomardamine olekski normaalne eluviis, aegajalt,
täis arulageduseni madalatasemelise fantaasia ja helitundetuse asemel
( ehk siis selle asemel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAXRYPxSGaM
meie mehe, kuldse trio, "õppind mehed head riistad" jms ajudeta käitumise suunas suunamise asemel südamesse suunamine...
"laulud"... mille sisu, moraal on utoopiline hinge kustutamine läbi pildituks joomise lihtsameelsete trikkide ja manipulatsioonide kaudu ühiskonna madalaimate astmete ergutamise läbi ka enamvähem terveid uskuma pannes, nagu joomardamine olekski normaalne eluviis, aegajalt,
täis arulageduseni madalatasemelise fantaasia ja helitundetuse asemel
( ehk siis selle asemel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAXRYPxSGaM
23 June 2017 13:18
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Alviste's post.
tunnetamine tundetuks joomise asemel
23 June 2017 13:12
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Alviste's post.
mäletamine unustamise asemel
23 June 2017 13:12
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Alviste's post.
vaikne tähelepanelikus hooletu lärmi asemel
23 June 2017 13:11
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Alviste's post.
Hingelisus joomarluse asemel
23 June 2017 13:11
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Alviste's post.
Psühedeelikumid viinameelsete asemel alustuseks,
23 June 2017 13:11
Margus Meigo commented on Ash Grimshaw's post.
You just not have to quiet Your mind and master Your powers and health but understand for Who and for what you do it.,
Evil powers also must be really smart, nice, popular, friendly and healthy to be successful or to have ANY noticeable power among good locations at all, elementary
Evil powers also must be really smart, nice, popular, friendly and healthy to be successful or to have ANY noticeable power among good locations at all, elementary
23 June 2017 13:06
Margus Meigo replied to Reigo Alviste's comment.
mõõgasep general Laigna: "Kas pekstakse Valgel alasil Punase haamriga või või Punasel alasil Valge haamriga - tulemus on ikka sama, pekstakse meid "
23 June 2017 12:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Deputy Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, General Sir Richard Shirreff:
"The Russian leader already has troops ready to launch a lightning takeover of eastern Europe in a move which would unleash a devastating global conflict on Europe’s doorstep.
And if NATO nations fail to respond to the threat with stronger resolve a future conflict could have “fatal consequences” for the decades-old alliance.
The chilling warning from NATO’s former Deputy Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, General Sir Richard Shirreff, comes amid icy tensions between Moscow and the West.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/692601/NATO-military-chief-warns-Vladimir-Putin-invade-Poland-start-World-War-Three
The experienced military commander made his dire prediction in a briefing document, entitled Arming for Deterrence, for the respected Atlantic Council think-tank.
In it he argues that Mr Putin could easily “artificially generate any pretext that suits his propaganda narrative” to justify going to war with the West at a moment’s notice.
When he invaded eastern Ukraine in March 2014 the hardline leader claimed he was intervening to protect a repressed Russian speaking minority in the Donbass region.
But Moscow could equally look to invade neighbour Poland, which unlike Ukraine is a NATO member, by arguing it is “pre-empting a NATO military attack” or “defending access to Kaliningrad”, according to General Shirreff.
He wrote: “Even if Moscow currently has no immediate intent to challenge NATO directly, this may unexpectedly change overnight and can be implemented with great speed, following already prepared plans. The capability to do so is, to a large extent, in place.
“The biggest threat for NATO today is a miscalculation by Russia that it could outmanoeuvre the Alliance by creating a quick fait accompli inside NATO’s borders.
“This is based on the Russian assumption that it has a significant time advantage over NATO and that the allies could, through intimidation, uncertainty, and disinformation be influenced not to escalate a limited conflict into a full-fledged one.”
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// WHAT about strengthening the local people understandings who among them are the ones that need to be changed to normal minded ones. OR they will be more canserous then communist minded fake-jews in Germany
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" General Sherriff calculates that Moscow’s troops could surge into Poland and scythe through the merged defences of the Baltic states including Lithuania and Latvia, cutting them off from the rest of the alliance.
"There is a strong suspicion that this could be cover for true conflict troop movements which would allow Moscow’s forces to go to war at speed which NATO cannot match.
General Sherriff observes: "Turning one of these exercises into an operation against one or several of the Baltic states would give very little or no early warning time for NATO.
“Russia’s forces in the Western Military District can be quickly and substantially reinforced by units and formations from other parts of Russia under the cover of planned or snap military drills.”
He says that the only way to deter Mr Putin from plunging eastern Europe into a massive conflict is to significantly bolster troops numbers in Poland - which would require huge deployments of men from the US and Britain.
His report asserts: “There is an urgent need to strengthen Poland’s defence capacity in order to reduce the temptation for Russia to spring a surprise attack.”
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// Preventive prophesy, but only works fully if at least some level implemented
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"Tensions between Moscow and members of the US-led coalition, most of whom also part of NATO, have intensified in the skies over the Middle East, with Russian jets this week bombing an airbase used by British and US special forces.
Russian navy ships have also twice clashed with US vessels and their fighter planes have been observed carrying out blatant simulated attack runs on the Pentagon’s warships.
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LoL, like fighting with tanks would be only way... tanks would be only needed for extra another kind of work and message, if needed, if all other efforts to own a future timeline seems to be weakened or vanishes (again, on last Nerve)
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"The Russian leader already has troops ready to launch a lightning takeover of eastern Europe in a move which would unleash a devastating global conflict on Europe’s doorstep.
And if NATO nations fail to respond to the threat with stronger resolve a future conflict could have “fatal consequences” for the decades-old alliance.
The chilling warning from NATO’s former Deputy Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, General Sir Richard Shirreff, comes amid icy tensions between Moscow and the West.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/692601/NATO-military-chief-warns-Vladimir-Putin-invade-Poland-start-World-War-Three
The experienced military commander made his dire prediction in a briefing document, entitled Arming for Deterrence, for the respected Atlantic Council think-tank.
In it he argues that Mr Putin could easily “artificially generate any pretext that suits his propaganda narrative” to justify going to war with the West at a moment’s notice.
When he invaded eastern Ukraine in March 2014 the hardline leader claimed he was intervening to protect a repressed Russian speaking minority in the Donbass region.
But Moscow could equally look to invade neighbour Poland, which unlike Ukraine is a NATO member, by arguing it is “pre-empting a NATO military attack” or “defending access to Kaliningrad”, according to General Shirreff.
He wrote: “Even if Moscow currently has no immediate intent to challenge NATO directly, this may unexpectedly change overnight and can be implemented with great speed, following already prepared plans. The capability to do so is, to a large extent, in place.
“The biggest threat for NATO today is a miscalculation by Russia that it could outmanoeuvre the Alliance by creating a quick fait accompli inside NATO’s borders.
“This is based on the Russian assumption that it has a significant time advantage over NATO and that the allies could, through intimidation, uncertainty, and disinformation be influenced not to escalate a limited conflict into a full-fledged one.”
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// WHAT about strengthening the local people understandings who among them are the ones that need to be changed to normal minded ones. OR they will be more canserous then communist minded fake-jews in Germany
____
" General Sherriff calculates that Moscow’s troops could surge into Poland and scythe through the merged defences of the Baltic states including Lithuania and Latvia, cutting them off from the rest of the alliance.
"There is a strong suspicion that this could be cover for true conflict troop movements which would allow Moscow’s forces to go to war at speed which NATO cannot match.
General Sherriff observes: "Turning one of these exercises into an operation against one or several of the Baltic states would give very little or no early warning time for NATO.
“Russia’s forces in the Western Military District can be quickly and substantially reinforced by units and formations from other parts of Russia under the cover of planned or snap military drills.”
He says that the only way to deter Mr Putin from plunging eastern Europe into a massive conflict is to significantly bolster troops numbers in Poland - which would require huge deployments of men from the US and Britain.
His report asserts: “There is an urgent need to strengthen Poland’s defence capacity in order to reduce the temptation for Russia to spring a surprise attack.”
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// Preventive prophesy, but only works fully if at least some level implemented
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"Tensions between Moscow and members of the US-led coalition, most of whom also part of NATO, have intensified in the skies over the Middle East, with Russian jets this week bombing an airbase used by British and US special forces.
Russian navy ships have also twice clashed with US vessels and their fighter planes have been observed carrying out blatant simulated attack runs on the Pentagon’s warships.
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LoL, like fighting with tanks would be only way... tanks would be only needed for extra another kind of work and message, if needed, if all other efforts to own a future timeline seems to be weakened or vanishes (again, on last Nerve)
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/692601/NATO-military-chief-warns-Vladimir-Putin-invade-Poland-start-World-War-Three
23 June 2017 12:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More parallel talks:
" Grenada was catapulted on to the front pages in October 1983 when troops from the world's most powerful country invaded the nutmeg-exporting island in order to effect "regime change". The White House sledgehammer was successful and US forces soon withdrew, but claims that a minuscule place with no army and a population of less than 100,000 could conceivably be a military threat prompted derision.
Two decades later the invasion looks less like an aberration than a harbinger of what happened in Iraq this year, a case of Caribbean farce being repeated as Middle Eastern tragedy. With George Bush senior in office as vice-president, the US assault on Grenada was a foretaste of the "pre-emptive military intervention" which his son enshrined as US national strategic doctrine last summer. Get them before they are even remotely in a position to get you.
Reporters who covered Grenada in that distant autumn of 1983 saw the same abuse of human rights, the same postwar incompetence, the same primitive failure to understand a foreign culture which the US "war on terror" was later to produce
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/oct/11/usa.iraq
" It was not explained how Grenada could give Castro extra muscle when the island is further from Florida or Central America - where leftwing insurgents were fighting military regimes - than Cuba is itself.
The true impulse - America's obsessive hatred of Cuba's independence and its desire to stop other countries in the region from following suit - was spelt out on the walls of the looted Cuban embassy. "Eat shit, Commie faggot," said newly written graffiti. The vandals had left their calling card, the initials AA for All American, which the 82nd Airborne Division likes to use. (They are the same outfit which recently killed three Iraqis near Falluja while shooting up a farmhouse and calling in airstrikes to destroy the building.)
Tawdry, vicious and ignorant, the invasion of Grenada differed from this year's war on Iraq in one important particular. A furious British prime minister did not hesitate to tell the US president he was wrong. In spite of her love-in with Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher saw through the threadbare threat assessments which the US put up to justify the war. "I am totally and utterly against communism and terrorism," she thundered in a BBC interview. "But if you are going to pronounce a new law that wherever communism reigns against the will of their people, the United States shall enter - then we are going to have really terrible wars in the world."
In her autobiography, she later described how Reagan rang to get her views a few hours before the invasion. It would be seen, she told him, "as intervention by a western country in the internal affairs of a small independent nation, however unattractive its regime". No self-delusions about liberation. Unlike Blair, Thatcher knew it would be occupation.
She explained that Grenada had not suddenly changed "from a democratic island paradise into a Soviet surrogate overnight in October 1983". Its socialist regime had taken over four years earlier. The Iraq analogy arises again. What made Saddam Hussein's Iraq more of a "threat" in March 2003 than it had been during the years of containment?
"The new 'hemispheric' strategy which President Reagan's administration was pursuing in our view led the US to exaggerate the threat which a Marxist Grenada posed," Thatcher wrote. Brave words, especially after Reagan had helped her during the Falklands war 18 months earlier. Reagan spurned the advice and ordered the invasion to go ahead. "I felt dismayed and let down. At best, the British government had been made to look impotent, at worst we looked deceitful," Thatcher commented.
The lesson for today is clear. When the US feels its vital interests are at stake abroad, whispers from a friend are unlikely to change things. Thatcher's colleague Christopher Soames put the point starkly in a House of Lords debate a few days after the invasion. "I hope her majesty's government will draw the conclusion from this sorry episode that perhaps the best way for the United Kingdom to bring influence to bear upon the decision-making process of the United States in the middle and latter parts of the 1980s will be off a European base. It is in strengthening that base and speaking with a European authority that we shall have much more influence over the US than through any special Anglo-Saxon influence that may or may not be left over from the mists of time," he declared.
Soames was a Europhile and Thatcher herself would never make the case in such strategic terms. But even with her narrow Atlanticist point of view, she knew when the Americans were going wrong and was not scared to tell them.
The contrast with Blair is sad. "
" Grenada was catapulted on to the front pages in October 1983 when troops from the world's most powerful country invaded the nutmeg-exporting island in order to effect "regime change". The White House sledgehammer was successful and US forces soon withdrew, but claims that a minuscule place with no army and a population of less than 100,000 could conceivably be a military threat prompted derision.
Two decades later the invasion looks less like an aberration than a harbinger of what happened in Iraq this year, a case of Caribbean farce being repeated as Middle Eastern tragedy. With George Bush senior in office as vice-president, the US assault on Grenada was a foretaste of the "pre-emptive military intervention" which his son enshrined as US national strategic doctrine last summer. Get them before they are even remotely in a position to get you.
Reporters who covered Grenada in that distant autumn of 1983 saw the same abuse of human rights, the same postwar incompetence, the same primitive failure to understand a foreign culture which the US "war on terror" was later to produce
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/oct/11/usa.iraq
" It was not explained how Grenada could give Castro extra muscle when the island is further from Florida or Central America - where leftwing insurgents were fighting military regimes - than Cuba is itself.
The true impulse - America's obsessive hatred of Cuba's independence and its desire to stop other countries in the region from following suit - was spelt out on the walls of the looted Cuban embassy. "Eat shit, Commie faggot," said newly written graffiti. The vandals had left their calling card, the initials AA for All American, which the 82nd Airborne Division likes to use. (They are the same outfit which recently killed three Iraqis near Falluja while shooting up a farmhouse and calling in airstrikes to destroy the building.)
Tawdry, vicious and ignorant, the invasion of Grenada differed from this year's war on Iraq in one important particular. A furious British prime minister did not hesitate to tell the US president he was wrong. In spite of her love-in with Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher saw through the threadbare threat assessments which the US put up to justify the war. "I am totally and utterly against communism and terrorism," she thundered in a BBC interview. "But if you are going to pronounce a new law that wherever communism reigns against the will of their people, the United States shall enter - then we are going to have really terrible wars in the world."
In her autobiography, she later described how Reagan rang to get her views a few hours before the invasion. It would be seen, she told him, "as intervention by a western country in the internal affairs of a small independent nation, however unattractive its regime". No self-delusions about liberation. Unlike Blair, Thatcher knew it would be occupation.
She explained that Grenada had not suddenly changed "from a democratic island paradise into a Soviet surrogate overnight in October 1983". Its socialist regime had taken over four years earlier. The Iraq analogy arises again. What made Saddam Hussein's Iraq more of a "threat" in March 2003 than it had been during the years of containment?
"The new 'hemispheric' strategy which President Reagan's administration was pursuing in our view led the US to exaggerate the threat which a Marxist Grenada posed," Thatcher wrote. Brave words, especially after Reagan had helped her during the Falklands war 18 months earlier. Reagan spurned the advice and ordered the invasion to go ahead. "I felt dismayed and let down. At best, the British government had been made to look impotent, at worst we looked deceitful," Thatcher commented.
The lesson for today is clear. When the US feels its vital interests are at stake abroad, whispers from a friend are unlikely to change things. Thatcher's colleague Christopher Soames put the point starkly in a House of Lords debate a few days after the invasion. "I hope her majesty's government will draw the conclusion from this sorry episode that perhaps the best way for the United Kingdom to bring influence to bear upon the decision-making process of the United States in the middle and latter parts of the 1980s will be off a European base. It is in strengthening that base and speaking with a European authority that we shall have much more influence over the US than through any special Anglo-Saxon influence that may or may not be left over from the mists of time," he declared.
Soames was a Europhile and Thatcher herself would never make the case in such strategic terms. But even with her narrow Atlanticist point of view, she knew when the Americans were going wrong and was not scared to tell them.
The contrast with Blair is sad. "
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/oct/11/usa.iraq
23 June 2017 12:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(in here, These levels, Do Not just talk about WAR military power but... You need all things from education structures to media and finance, all have to be thought out and planned, and implemented some tens of years before, and this has been done, just in case and as planned)
" “Even if Moscow currently has no immediate intent to challenge Nato directly, this may unexpectedly change overnight and can be implemented with great speed, following already prepared plans," the Atlantic Council report warns.
"The capability to do so is, to a large extent, in place.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-could-invade-poland-overnight-report-claims-a7156131.html
" “Even if Moscow currently has no immediate intent to challenge Nato directly, this may unexpectedly change overnight and can be implemented with great speed, following already prepared plans," the Atlantic Council report warns.
"The capability to do so is, to a large extent, in place.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-could-invade-poland-overnight-report-claims-a7156131.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-could-invade-poland-overnight-report-claims-a7156131.html
23 June 2017 12:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"No one in Government is saying that an invasion is imminent or desirable.
But in the last few weeks, President Reagan, Secretary of State George P. Shultz and other senior officials have for the first time begun warning that if other policies fail, the United States may be left with little choice in the years ahead.
Interviews with almost 50 military, diplomatic and foreign government experts in Washington, Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua and Honduras indicate that discussion of the issue has become commonplace in official circles.
The interviews and other inquiries also brought to light these points:
* Although no one in Congress has publicly called for United States military involvement in Nicaragua, the mood on Capitol Hill in the last few weeks appears to have shifted sharply against the Sandinista Government.
http://www.nytimes.com/1985/06/05/world/nicaragua-and-the-us-options-an-invasion-is-openly-discussed.html?pagewanted=all
But in the last few weeks, President Reagan, Secretary of State George P. Shultz and other senior officials have for the first time begun warning that if other policies fail, the United States may be left with little choice in the years ahead.
Interviews with almost 50 military, diplomatic and foreign government experts in Washington, Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua and Honduras indicate that discussion of the issue has become commonplace in official circles.
The interviews and other inquiries also brought to light these points:
* Although no one in Congress has publicly called for United States military involvement in Nicaragua, the mood on Capitol Hill in the last few weeks appears to have shifted sharply against the Sandinista Government.
http://www.nytimes.com/1985/06/05/world/nicaragua-and-the-us-options-an-invasion-is-openly-discussed.html?pagewanted=all
http://www.nytimes.com/1985/06/05/world/nicaragua-and-the-us-options-an-invasion-is-openly-discussed.html?pagewanted=all
23 June 2017 12:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuigi ka neid aegu, siis näidatakse ajaloos kui taset hiljem, kuidas seeaeg kui kohalik matsid jõid natsid professionaalset taset näitasid struktuuride ülevõtmiseks kiiremini kui usa võttis ...
// karma näiteks see ajalukku pannakse, #Jyrioo
// karma näiteks see ajalukku pannakse, #Jyrioo
23 June 2017 12:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mõned kes ennast Riigimeelseks peavad, aga isegi sellel ajal ennast hooletusse lasevad,
UusAasta on teine väga potensiaalikas aeg, kus ka tehti ja tehakse endiselt muudatusi.
See peaks igale Eestlasele elementaarne arusaam olema, kes vähegi kodumaa nimel elab, ning tol ajal eriti hoolsalt mõtteid Jumalaligi hoidma, nagu igal muul ajal.
Et kui vaja siis saab mäletades mis õige, asju õigeks uuesti korda seada.
Eriti ohtlik muidugi generatsiooni osa, kes meie keskele lubatud, kes ei saagi ega soovivigi saada aru mis on õige, veelgi hullem neist omakorda osa usub, et ei olegi olemas õiget,
ja sundravile ka ei viida,
selline lokkav liberaalsus, kus inimestel lubatakse Elu vastaselt mõelda ja avalikult sellel teemal mõtteid arutada, nagu tegu ei olekski murekohaga, et üldse sellised mõtted põhe mõnele pääsesid, seda peaks kohe riiklikult ju uurima hakkama, individuaalselt lähenedes ja globaalse pildiga kohati paigutades, et näha, kuidas ja miks über väär arusaamad elualuste osas mõnel on sisse saanud ja müsitikute ning teadlastega uurida, mis ime läbi need asjad püsivad
UusAasta on teine väga potensiaalikas aeg, kus ka tehti ja tehakse endiselt muudatusi.
See peaks igale Eestlasele elementaarne arusaam olema, kes vähegi kodumaa nimel elab, ning tol ajal eriti hoolsalt mõtteid Jumalaligi hoidma, nagu igal muul ajal.
Et kui vaja siis saab mäletades mis õige, asju õigeks uuesti korda seada.
Eriti ohtlik muidugi generatsiooni osa, kes meie keskele lubatud, kes ei saagi ega soovivigi saada aru mis on õige, veelgi hullem neist omakorda osa usub, et ei olegi olemas õiget,
ja sundravile ka ei viida,
selline lokkav liberaalsus, kus inimestel lubatakse Elu vastaselt mõelda ja avalikult sellel teemal mõtteid arutada, nagu tegu ei olekski murekohaga, et üldse sellised mõtted põhe mõnele pääsesid, seda peaks kohe riiklikult ju uurima hakkama, individuaalselt lähenedes ja globaalse pildiga kohati paigutades, et näha, kuidas ja miks über väär arusaamad elualuste osas mõnel on sisse saanud ja müsitikute ning teadlastega uurida, mis ime läbi need asjad püsivad
23 June 2017 11:34
Margus Meigo commented on Evan Obrentz's post.
Group: The Idiocy Of Donald Trump's America
everyone who focuses on this dude to be "rassist" (for me rassist, are the ones who loves races, not the ones who are in to ANTI-race ideology as there would be no races).
These types of races as this fellow is whit camera, seem to be from old smart ancient roots, had luck to become friends with some .
But looking from the point what the Worker told, well, we HAVE to go much deeper then this surface,
we have to understand what other does not understand and how to help on these arias in right order23 June 2017 09:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: The Idiocy Of Donald Trump's America
Can not understand the smile, can You explain23 June 2017 09:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ei tundu küll punaste lipsumeestena (mõndade suhtes mul otse jõle tunne kohe)
kuid kuidagi jah... radikaalselt patriootlik ka ei tundu olema kes suudaks millise iganes viisnurga vastu seista, täpsemalt ei jagagi selliste tööökohtade põhjal noorena, kas tegu tarkade vana aja luurajatega kes uusi aegu endal alati meeldivalt ligi hoiavad,
või.. // pole praegu selles teadvuses, et teada
kuid kuidagi jah... radikaalselt patriootlik ka ei tundu olema kes suudaks millise iganes viisnurga vastu seista, täpsemalt ei jagagi selliste tööökohtade põhjal noorena, kas tegu tarkade vana aja luurajatega kes uusi aegu endal alati meeldivalt ligi hoiavad,
või.. // pole praegu selles teadvuses, et teada
23 June 2017 09:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: The Idiocy Of Donald Trump's America
as it is this video right now, it looks like promotion video, for THEIR side
he was not afraid to say what he does and why
WHY did not the protesters not state their side ? How does it make world better? How does it protect?23 June 2017 09:34
Margus Meigo commented on Evan Obrentz's post.
Group: The Idiocy Of Donald Trump's America
Nothing new. WHY would one think, that the insulting race part was the worst part?
This is in their community ORDINARY extra, this is near 90% among some communities who think so (and same way black people who feel same low about others)
What we should focus on comforting the KNOWLEDGE first of WHY and WHAT is done in there, what is the impacts if is done one way or what is wondered to be happened if another way,
if done like that... in video .. there is no evolution, about what was told and who is smart or not,
insults does not ruin the point about need of work, people need to do, on this point, for a LOT of normal people eyes, the local worker seems right and normal
because he had better points and arguments,
because the ones who protest, did not do their work : INFORMING PEOPLE WHAT THEY DO
For starters, what they do, why they do, how they do.... but most of all WHAT they do, and it is NOT a protest,
it is stopping others do make wrong things... "protesting" is silly,
and this comes from person, who does look more hippy then most people in these places.23 June 2017 09:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"A meeting between a member of US president-elect Donald Trump's close circle and a pro-Putin member of the Russian State Duma in a Eastern European country was picked up by the Estonian Information Board, Newsweek wrote yesterday, based on information from several people with ties to the agency.
Provided the information is true, it comes as unprecedented recognition for the Estonian foreign intelligence agency that was allegedly asked to help stage the operation. The Information Board does not confirm the information in keeping with the rules of the intelligence world."
http://news.postimees.ee/3977431/estonian-foreign-intelligence-in-the-spotlight
Provided the information is true, it comes as unprecedented recognition for the Estonian foreign intelligence agency that was allegedly asked to help stage the operation. The Information Board does not confirm the information in keeping with the rules of the intelligence world."
http://news.postimees.ee/3977431/estonian-foreign-intelligence-in-the-spotlight
http://news.postimees.ee/3977431/estonian-foreign-intelligence-in-the-spotlight
23 June 2017 02:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
did we mention, that there is agents inside agency that will produce phony allegations against others, in effort to smear country image on who's name they do it,k as to be looked as "Käpards"
in purpose making own country (that they work against) look lame, is one elementary tactic
in purpose making own country (that they work against) look lame, is one elementary tactic
23 June 2017 01:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ihii, and of-course:
" In Estonia published "documents the Russian special services" found grammatical errors in the alleged Russian documents produced, according to the Estonian Security Police (KAPO), its agents, seen awkward grammatical errors. On the shortcomings noticed Russian historian and publicist Dyukov. The "cap" documents visible word "Rukavoditelya" and "Sluzba" (instead of "Service"). It is difficult to imagine that in these documents the Russian security services, drawn up for their guidance, contained so awkward to support Russian mistakes of language, and even at such a significant and important piece of text. Fully documents Estonian intelligence agency has not released, allegedly for fear of exposing their agents to which these documents could get. Earlier Capo released Tuesday yearbook said about the growth of the FSB influence beyond Russia and accused Russian secret services of the "most aggressive" espionage against Estonia. In addition, the head of the CAPO Arnold Sinisalu said that Russia is trying to divide the European Union. Commenting on these statements, a spokesman for the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova ironically noted that "the Estonian security police carefully guarded by the Russian special services major Estonian secret that in Estonia more secrets no. » the PS forget Russian language forgotten. Here they are, the fruits of the struggle with the Russian schools.
https://www.facebook.com/1037173013014642/photos/a.1037226943009249.1073741828.1037173013014642/1071211506277459/?type=3&theater
" In Estonia published "documents the Russian special services" found grammatical errors in the alleged Russian documents produced, according to the Estonian Security Police (KAPO), its agents, seen awkward grammatical errors. On the shortcomings noticed Russian historian and publicist Dyukov. The "cap" documents visible word "Rukavoditelya" and "Sluzba" (instead of "Service"). It is difficult to imagine that in these documents the Russian security services, drawn up for their guidance, contained so awkward to support Russian mistakes of language, and even at such a significant and important piece of text. Fully documents Estonian intelligence agency has not released, allegedly for fear of exposing their agents to which these documents could get. Earlier Capo released Tuesday yearbook said about the growth of the FSB influence beyond Russia and accused Russian secret services of the "most aggressive" espionage against Estonia. In addition, the head of the CAPO Arnold Sinisalu said that Russia is trying to divide the European Union. Commenting on these statements, a spokesman for the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova ironically noted that "the Estonian security police carefully guarded by the Russian special services major Estonian secret that in Estonia more secrets no. » the PS forget Russian language forgotten. Here they are, the fruits of the struggle with the Russian schools.
https://www.facebook.com/1037173013014642/photos/a.1037226943009249.1073741828.1037173013014642/1071211506277459/?type=3&theater
23 June 2017 01:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Comments from antis in infoWars : "[ Seeking to retain his position as CIA director under Hillary, Brennan teamed up with British spies and Estonian spies to cripple Trump’s candidacy. He used their phony intelligence as a pretext for a multi-agency investigation into Trump, which led the FBI to probe a computer server connected to Trump Tower and gave cover to Susan Rice, among other Hillary supporters, to spy on Trump and his people.
John Brennan’s CIA operated like a branch office of the Hillary campaign, leaking out mentions of this bogus investigation to the press in the hopes of inflicting maximum political damage on Trump. ]"
https://spectator.org/confirmed-john-brennan-colluded-with-foreign-spies-to-defeat-trump/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/312480172208349/permalink/1198520520270972/
https://www.facebook.com/diane.george.7/posts/10208970457513767
https://www.facebook.com/linda.brisbon/posts/1574869955865891
https://www.facebook.com/RickEGoodman/posts/10212846418864293
https://www.facebook.com/TAConservative/posts/1396210180402306
https://www.facebook.com/mark.a.dagg/posts/10212808326985587
https://www.facebook.com/ccox7747/posts/1320594147978542
https://www.facebook.com/CitizensForTrump/posts/874187532721958
John Brennan’s CIA operated like a branch office of the Hillary campaign, leaking out mentions of this bogus investigation to the press in the hopes of inflicting maximum political damage on Trump. ]"
https://spectator.org/confirmed-john-brennan-colluded-with-foreign-spies-to-defeat-trump/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/312480172208349/permalink/1198520520270972/
https://www.facebook.com/diane.george.7/posts/10208970457513767
https://www.facebook.com/linda.brisbon/posts/1574869955865891
https://www.facebook.com/RickEGoodman/posts/10212846418864293
https://www.facebook.com/TAConservative/posts/1396210180402306
https://www.facebook.com/mark.a.dagg/posts/10212808326985587
https://www.facebook.com/ccox7747/posts/1320594147978542
https://www.facebook.com/CitizensForTrump/posts/874187532721958
https://spectator.org/confirmed-john-brennan-colluded-with-foreign-spies-to-defeat-trump/
23 June 2017 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Estonian Foreign Intelligence Agency
" Kuigi jõustruktuurides tegutsejatel oli üldteada, et NSVL julgeolek värbas kõige suurema osa agentuurist just aktiivsete rahvuslaste hulgast. Keelatud oli ilma erilise vajaduseta värvata partei– ja nõukogude töötajaid ning NLKP liikmeid. Kindral Einselni kätega likvideeriti esimest korda Kaitsejõudude Peastaabi vastuluurega tegutsev osakond. Teist korda likvideeriti see osakond eksluuraja Rene Toomse väitel vahetult enne Herman Simmi jälile jõudmist Kaitsejõudude vastuluure töötajate poolt. See näitab, et eelneva 15 aasta joksul polnud luurealases jõudude vahekorras midagi muutunud. Kõik töötas endiselt Vene julgeolekuorganite kasuks.
Kolmandana tooksin välja nn SIA skandaal. SIAsse olid kogunenud endised Eriteenistuse töötajad, kes 90ndate keskel moodustasid eradetektiivibüroo, mis aitas inimesi tärkavas majanduses neid terroriseerivate allilmajõududega võidelda. Kuna paralleelselt omas SIA tänu oma vanadele sidemetele ülevaadet poliitilisest olukorrast riigis ja SIA mõningaid teenuseid kasutasid ka poliitikud, siis otsustati ka see organisatsioon livideerida. Selleks suunati SIA ridadesse provokaator. Tänu temale anti löök SIA struktuuride pihta ning SIA likvideeriti, kahjustades selle juhtide ja töötajate professionaalset mainet. Parim vahend vastase kahjutukstegemiseks, nagu me teame, on muuta ta avalikkuse silmis mittetõsiseltvõetavaks. "
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/arvamus/kalle-klandorfi-tagasivaade-kgb-ametlikule-lopule-miks-eesti-uks-esimesi-siseministreid-tahtis-havitada-enda-kohta-kompromiteerivat-materjali?id=70439341
Kas need kutid muidu suts punased ple v
" Kuigi jõustruktuurides tegutsejatel oli üldteada, et NSVL julgeolek värbas kõige suurema osa agentuurist just aktiivsete rahvuslaste hulgast. Keelatud oli ilma erilise vajaduseta värvata partei– ja nõukogude töötajaid ning NLKP liikmeid. Kindral Einselni kätega likvideeriti esimest korda Kaitsejõudude Peastaabi vastuluurega tegutsev osakond. Teist korda likvideeriti see osakond eksluuraja Rene Toomse väitel vahetult enne Herman Simmi jälile jõudmist Kaitsejõudude vastuluure töötajate poolt. See näitab, et eelneva 15 aasta joksul polnud luurealases jõudude vahekorras midagi muutunud. Kõik töötas endiselt Vene julgeolekuorganite kasuks.
Kolmandana tooksin välja nn SIA skandaal. SIAsse olid kogunenud endised Eriteenistuse töötajad, kes 90ndate keskel moodustasid eradetektiivibüroo, mis aitas inimesi tärkavas majanduses neid terroriseerivate allilmajõududega võidelda. Kuna paralleelselt omas SIA tänu oma vanadele sidemetele ülevaadet poliitilisest olukorrast riigis ja SIA mõningaid teenuseid kasutasid ka poliitikud, siis otsustati ka see organisatsioon livideerida. Selleks suunati SIA ridadesse provokaator. Tänu temale anti löök SIA struktuuride pihta ning SIA likvideeriti, kahjustades selle juhtide ja töötajate professionaalset mainet. Parim vahend vastase kahjutukstegemiseks, nagu me teame, on muuta ta avalikkuse silmis mittetõsiseltvõetavaks. "
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Kas need kutid muidu suts punased ple v
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23 June 2017 01:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Authority information Agency ( A.i.A ) Office
Riigikogu riigikaitsekomisjoni esimees Hannes Hanso (SDE) sõnul on plaan nimetada teabeamet ümber välisluureametiks õigustatud ja mõistlik.
Hanso ütles ERR.ee-le, et asutuse nimi peab peegeldama selle tegevuse sisu ning kuna teabeamet tegeleb välisluurega, siis on ka paslik, et nimi seda kajastab.
"Nimevahetus annab ka selgema võõrkeelse tõlke võimaluse. Estonian Information Board või Estonian Foreign Intelligence Agency kõlavad kui kaks erinevat asja, millest ainult viimane kirjeldab selle asutuse tegevust," märkis Hanso.
Hanso sõnul on ka siseriikliku sõnumina välisluure olemasolu teadvustamine meile oluline.
"Endise ministrina võin kinnitada, et Eesti luurevõimekus on maailmatasemel. Seda kinnitavad ka meie rahvusvahelised partnerid. Seega oleme oma välisluure üle uhked ja nimetame seda siis ka õige nimega," ütles Hanso.
Siseministeerium esitas valitsusele julgeolekuasutuste seaduse muutmise eelnõu, milles muude muudatuste hulgas plaanitakse teabeamet ümber nimetada välisluureametiks.
Ka luureeksperdi Eerik-Niiles Krossi sõnul on asutuse praegune nimi aegunud. "Teabeamet täna asub kaitseministeeriumi valitsemisalas, käsuliinid on selged. Selles mõttes riigi struktuuris kõik teavad, kuhu see asutus kuulub, nii et selline pisut segadusse ajav nimi minu arvates on küll ajast ja arust," ütles ta.
Lääneriikides ei ole teabeametiga sarnased asutused enamjaolt välisluure nime all. USA-s on näiteks luure keskagentuur, Saksamaal föderaalne teabeteenistus ja Suurbritannias salaluureteenistus.
"Eks igas riigis on nii ajaloolilisi põhjusi kui ka tõenäoliselt poliitilisi põhjusi. Sõna luure on ikkagi väga paljudes riikides nende asutuste nimes ära nimetatud ja ma usun, et Eesti puhul, kus võib-olla need tõlked ei ole päris üks-üheselt võimalikud, ütleb välisluure täpselt seda, mida ta ütlema peab," arvas Kross.
Hanso ütles, et asutuse uus nimi ei saa olla lihtsalt luureamet, kuna ka sõjaväes on sarnase nimega asutus - luurekeskus. "See võiks tekitada sellise olukorra, kus võidakse hakata asutusi segamini ajama," märkis ta.
Välisluureteenistus ehk lühidalt SVR on Venemaal. Eraldi ametlikku välisluureasutust ei ole lähiriikidest aga Soomel ja Rootsil.
"Ütleme nii, et on mõned sellised riigid, mis tundub, et tunnevad ennast ebamugavalt taolistes küsimustes, ei taha neist rääkida, ei taha tunnistada mõnikord, et taolised asutused on olemas. Eks iga riik otsustab seda ise. Siin on kindlasti ka sisepoliitiline mõõde," selgitas Kross.
Eesti on Krossi sõnul võtnud viimase kümne aasta jooksul julgeolekuteemadel avatud hoiaku, mistõttu on väga kohane, et ka teabeameti uue nimega ei veiderdata.
Toimetaja: Marek Kuul, Merili Nael, Maria-Ann Rohemäe
http://www.err.ee/579516/hannes-hanso-teabeameti-nimevahetus-on-oigustatudhttp://www.err.ee/579516/hannes-hanso-teabeameti-nimevahetus-on-oigustatud
23 June 2017 00:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Authority information Agency ( A.i.A ) Office
Riigikogu riigikaitsekomisjoni esimees Hannes Hanso (SDE) sõnul on plaan nimetada teabeamet ümber välisluureametiks õigustatud ja mõistlik.
Hanso ütles ERR.ee-le, et asutuse nimi peab peegeldama selle tegevuse sisu ning kuna teabeamet tegeleb välisluurega, siis on ka paslik, et nimi seda kajastab.
"Nimevahetus annab ka selgema võõrkeelse tõlke võimaluse. Estonian Information Board või Estonian Foreign Intelligence Agency kõlavad kui kaks erinevat asja, millest ainult viimane kirjeldab selle asutuse tegevust," märkis Hanso.
Hanso sõnul on ka siseriikliku sõnumina välisluure olemasolu teadvustamine meile oluline.
"Endise ministrina võin kinnitada, et Eesti luurevõimekus on maailmatasemel. Seda kinnitavad ka meie rahvusvahelised partnerid. Seega oleme oma välisluure üle uhked ja nimetame seda siis ka õige nimega," ütles Hanso.
Siseministeerium esitas valitsusele julgeolekuasutuste seaduse muutmise eelnõu, milles muude muudatuste hulgas plaanitakse teabeamet ümber nimetada välisluureametiks.
Ka luureeksperdi Eerik-Niiles Krossi sõnul on asutuse praegune nimi aegunud. "Teabeamet täna asub kaitseministeeriumi valitsemisalas, käsuliinid on selged. Selles mõttes riigi struktuuris kõik teavad, kuhu see asutus kuulub, nii et selline pisut segadusse ajav nimi minu arvates on küll ajast ja arust," ütles ta.
Lääneriikides ei ole teabeametiga sarnased asutused enamjaolt välisluure nime all. USA-s on näiteks luure keskagentuur, Saksamaal föderaalne teabeteenistus ja Suurbritannias salaluureteenistus.
"Eks igas riigis on nii ajaloolilisi põhjusi kui ka tõenäoliselt poliitilisi põhjusi. Sõna luure on ikkagi väga paljudes riikides nende asutuste nimes ära nimetatud ja ma usun, et Eesti puhul, kus võib-olla need tõlked ei ole päris üks-üheselt võimalikud, ütleb välisluure täpselt seda, mida ta ütlema peab," arvas Kross.
Hanso ütles, et asutuse uus nimi ei saa olla lihtsalt luureamet, kuna ka sõjaväes on sarnase nimega asutus - luurekeskus. "See võiks tekitada sellise olukorra, kus võidakse hakata asutusi segamini ajama," märkis ta.
Välisluureteenistus ehk lühidalt SVR on Venemaal. Eraldi ametlikku välisluureasutust ei ole lähiriikidest aga Soomel ja Rootsil.
"Ütleme nii, et on mõned sellised riigid, mis tundub, et tunnevad ennast ebamugavalt taolistes küsimustes, ei taha neist rääkida, ei taha tunnistada mõnikord, et taolised asutused on olemas. Eks iga riik otsustab seda ise. Siin on kindlasti ka sisepoliitiline mõõde," selgitas Kross.
Eesti on Krossi sõnul võtnud viimase kümne aasta jooksul julgeolekuteemadel avatud hoiaku, mistõttu on väga kohane, et ka teabeameti uue nimega ei veiderdata.
Toimetaja: Marek Kuul, Merili Nael, Maria-Ann Rohemäe
http://www.err.ee/579516/hannes-hanso-teabeameti-nimevahetus-on-oigustatudhttp://www.err.ee/579516/hannes-hanso-teabeameti-nimevahetus-on-oigustatud
23 June 2017 00:31
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's live video.
as long it is not a Communist summit
23 June 2017 00:13
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Genovy's post.
Group: Cannabis Without Borders
No one should be able to control cannabis market who is not using cannabis one self or who is not a priest,
and when they smoke, use, they have to explain to a public, what they do and why
as does not make sense, just some ties imagining to handle the spirit and collective mind, human evolution important part,
just for profit and control
as they kind might start to pervert it in all levels,
then again, if big players do that.. this shows.. they have given up the notion to keep that away from human spirit and moved to the next level, that in the end will anyway bring a winning to humans,
even if they work hard to eliminate correct seeds and spirits that give purest trips in heart direction22 June 2017 19:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame."
22 June 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Actually, in truth,
Even going in Philipines , i got friendly warning that looking like that would be to much worry in these times, can i change..
but hey,
420Philippines, How is it, with the changes? What is left of our road if we keep turning little by little to every-were where we do not need to like
Even going in Philipines , i got friendly warning that looking like that would be to much worry in these times, can i change..
but hey,
420Philippines, How is it, with the changes? What is left of our road if we keep turning little by little to every-were where we do not need to like
22 June 2017 01:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vürst Trubetsky & JMKE (Punkarid Rahvuslikud ja Anarhistid Royalistlikud me maal, koos laulavad me isamaalastelegi! )
Meie oleme tugevad, oma tööga saavutand mõndagi.
Ja millegipärast me arvame, et pole võlgu me kellelegi.
Meil on kõike rohkemgi, kui suudame ära tarvitada.
Mille arvelt see tuleb, me pole võimelised taipama.
Mõtle kord, kes kõik selle nimel surevad,
et sul oleks veidi mugavam elada.
Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame.
Meil on nii palju süüa, nii palju hapnikku hingata.
Jaksab meid kõiki ülal pidada helesinine emake Maa.
Justkui võlulaekast alati võtta on midagi.
Ja tundub, et kogu seda staffi jätkub veel meie lastelegi.
Meil on kerge veel elada ja raisata.
Me võlgu me järeltulijad kord maksavad.
Kui nad kord nälgivad, kui nad kord lämbuvad,
siis nad vaatavad tagasi,
ja oma isadelt-emadelt küsivad,
mille kulul nad elasid.
Mille kulul nad elasid,
mille kulul nad elasid.
Oleme head kombinaatorid
ja me elame edasi,
kuni tulevad kõik meie kreeditorid
võlgu küsima tagasi.
Aga senikaua ei mõtle me,
mille kulul me elame.
Mille kulul me elame,
mille kulul me elame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP_2gtpPAv4
Meie oleme tugevad, oma tööga saavutand mõndagi.
Ja millegipärast me arvame, et pole võlgu me kellelegi.
Meil on kõike rohkemgi, kui suudame ära tarvitada.
Mille arvelt see tuleb, me pole võimelised taipama.
Mõtle kord, kes kõik selle nimel surevad,
et sul oleks veidi mugavam elada.
Me elu maitseme ja unistame,
et me maailma valitseme.
Ja vägagi lihtsalt me unustame,
mille kulul me elame.
Meil on nii palju süüa, nii palju hapnikku hingata.
Jaksab meid kõiki ülal pidada helesinine emake Maa.
Justkui võlulaekast alati võtta on midagi.
Ja tundub, et kogu seda staffi jätkub veel meie lastelegi.
Meil on kerge veel elada ja raisata.
Me võlgu me järeltulijad kord maksavad.
Kui nad kord nälgivad, kui nad kord lämbuvad,
siis nad vaatavad tagasi,
ja oma isadelt-emadelt küsivad,
mille kulul nad elasid.
Mille kulul nad elasid,
mille kulul nad elasid.
Oleme head kombinaatorid
ja me elame edasi,
kuni tulevad kõik meie kreeditorid
võlgu küsima tagasi.
Aga senikaua ei mõtle me,
mille kulul me elame.
Mille kulul me elame,
mille kulul me elame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP_2gtpPAv4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP_2gtpPAv4
22 June 2017 01:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ehkki mitte vVeel
J.M.K.E. - Õhtumaa viimased tunnid
Tead, et igal kultuuril on tõusu ja languse faas.
Mis kõrgele hüppab, peagi on sirakil maas.
Meil on on see õnn, et saame me veel näha oma eluajal,
kuidas põrmu langeb Õhtumaa.
Käes on Õhtumaa viimased tunnid,
veel agoonias rabeleb ta.
Tema loojuva päikese kiirtes
klaasi tõstan ja ütlen: aidaa.
See on postmodernistliku näidendi viimane vaatus.
See on posthumanistliku luige katkenud laul.
See tarbijate paradiis on tarbind ennast lõhki.
Ta tükid kukuvad eilsesse.
Õhtumaa viimased tunnid
kõnnivad riburada me taga.
Ja me jookseme nende eest ära.
Ei tee me tegemist hävinevaga.
Õhtumaa viimased tunnid.
Kaunis ja kohutav loojang.
Õhtumaal õhtu on käes
ja õhtu ei tõota ju sooja.
See, mida Euroopa tähendas kunagi meile,
sel polegi tähtsust. See oli ju kunagi eile.
Me homsesse nüüd vaatame ja me ei tea, mis tuleb sealt,
kuid midagi sealt tulema ju peab.
Käes on Õhtumaa viimased tunnid,
veel agoonias rabeleb ta.
Tema loojuva päikese kiirtes
klaasi tõstan ja ütlen: aidaa.
Õhtumaa viimased tunnid.
Mõned ees on veel, mõned on taga.
Meie astume kõrvale sealt
ja ei tea, kas me astume tagasi veel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15tnoeLfymY
J.M.K.E. - Õhtumaa viimased tunnid
Tead, et igal kultuuril on tõusu ja languse faas.
Mis kõrgele hüppab, peagi on sirakil maas.
Meil on on see õnn, et saame me veel näha oma eluajal,
kuidas põrmu langeb Õhtumaa.
Käes on Õhtumaa viimased tunnid,
veel agoonias rabeleb ta.
Tema loojuva päikese kiirtes
klaasi tõstan ja ütlen: aidaa.
See on postmodernistliku näidendi viimane vaatus.
See on posthumanistliku luige katkenud laul.
See tarbijate paradiis on tarbind ennast lõhki.
Ta tükid kukuvad eilsesse.
Õhtumaa viimased tunnid
kõnnivad riburada me taga.
Ja me jookseme nende eest ära.
Ei tee me tegemist hävinevaga.
Õhtumaa viimased tunnid.
Kaunis ja kohutav loojang.
Õhtumaal õhtu on käes
ja õhtu ei tõota ju sooja.
See, mida Euroopa tähendas kunagi meile,
sel polegi tähtsust. See oli ju kunagi eile.
Me homsesse nüüd vaatame ja me ei tea, mis tuleb sealt,
kuid midagi sealt tulema ju peab.
Käes on Õhtumaa viimased tunnid,
veel agoonias rabeleb ta.
Tema loojuva päikese kiirtes
klaasi tõstan ja ütlen: aidaa.
Õhtumaa viimased tunnid.
Mõned ees on veel, mõned on taga.
Meie astume kõrvale sealt
ja ei tea, kas me astume tagasi veel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15tnoeLfymY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15tnoeLfymY
22 June 2017 01:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuhu oled jõudnud EESTI? - Einar Laigna ja Peeter Liiv (67min)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGezolfjTjE&t=1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGezolfjTjE&t=1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGezolfjTjE&t=1s
22 June 2017 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Einar Laigna: me kas oleme võimelised veel üheks renessanssiks, või me hukkume
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNeHR8zFCxA&t=83s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNeHR8zFCxA&t=83s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNeHR8zFCxA&t=83s
22 June 2017 01:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kultuurisõda - Intervjuu - Mari Pärn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQyRjs787-I&t=5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQyRjs787-I&t=5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQyRjs787-I&t=5s
22 June 2017 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Malle Pärn: me elame nagu okupeeritud riigis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-cgqOj6BGE&t=14s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-cgqOj6BGE&t=14s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-cgqOj6BGE&t=14s
22 June 2017 01:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ülo Vooglaid: konservatiivsus on arengu eeldus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MrJPt3HzBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MrJPt3HzBY
22 June 2017 01:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ülo Vooglaid valetamisele tuleb lõpp teha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWAZN1exLms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWAZN1exLms
22 June 2017 01:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
TANTSUPEO ORKESTER, LIISI KOIKSON, MEELIKA HAINSOO, CÄTLIN JAAGO JA NOORKUU - Kodu
Vot see juba on midagi, mis Raadiojaame klõppsides, neilke kes KODU otsivad, Kõrvu jääb
ja südamest läbi käib.
Need kes seda ei otsi, Chilli uue aja unustatavat kitarri või poppi otsib, ega tema kanalile ikka pidama kaua jääkski, ja pole plaanigi,
see kes aga KODU otsib, see inimene,
nu see inimene soovib jääda kauemaks, ja tõesti, see "MAMAS GUN feat. BEVERLEY KNIGHT - Only One" alguses ka .. kõlab pigem kultuurilisemalt, Targemalt, olulisemalt, täiskasvanulikumalt ja tähtsamalt, isegi ilusamini ja liigutavamalt kui odavad ebaõigemad raadio meelelaLAHUTUS muusikad, (muidugi jah, on veelgi paremat välismaist)
Vot see juba on midagi, mis Raadiojaame klõppsides, neilke kes KODU otsivad, Kõrvu jääb
ja südamest läbi käib.
Need kes seda ei otsi, Chilli uue aja unustatavat kitarri või poppi otsib, ega tema kanalile ikka pidama kaua jääkski, ja pole plaanigi,
see kes aga KODU otsib, see inimene,
nu see inimene soovib jääda kauemaks, ja tõesti, see "MAMAS GUN feat. BEVERLEY KNIGHT - Only One" alguses ka .. kõlab pigem kultuurilisemalt, Targemalt, olulisemalt, täiskasvanulikumalt ja tähtsamalt, isegi ilusamini ja liigutavamalt kui odavad ebaõigemad raadio meelelaLAHUTUS muusikad, (muidugi jah, on veelgi paremat välismaist)
22 June 2017 00:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
21 June 2017 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Või oota, Mikk Lindre ja Madis Lindre ega te, kus on elutee ja naised?
Kui nii BleiKad on üksi siis ma ei peagi tundma ennast muretsoonis (nagu ikka vahest veel osadel eestlastel teiste nadimini minek ka enda nadimat olukorda lahutab võrreldes kui olukord sama oleks ja ümberringi parem)
Kui nii BleiKad on üksi siis ma ei peagi tundma ennast muretsoonis (nagu ikka vahest veel osadel eestlastel teiste nadimini minek ka enda nadimat olukorda lahutab võrreldes kui olukord sama oleks ja ümberringi parem)
21 June 2017 23:39
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21 June 2017 23:33
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21 June 2017 23:28
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21 June 2017 23:23
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21 June 2017 23:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Viimase Raadioteatri point oli: Kui Kuri Sulle head peale annab kelleiganes Vastu, siis kasuta seda kurja enaküljest lahtisaamiseks kui taibu oled lootusetus diilis milesse naised ja m2ssud end sidunud isegi targana olles on veelgi ilusamas olukorras,
Kristiine Mäss (see viimane teleteater, kui kuulad)
Kristiine Mäss (see viimane teleteater, kui kuulad)
21 June 2017 23:11
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
v muud moodi, kuidas juba teada on, et häid laule palju olemas,
et milleks eksperimenteerida siis mingite stiilidega kes pole midagi samaväärse kesktasekti ületanud väärtuse ja tuntuks jäämise tõenäosuse suurust sellistel uutel bändidel arvates ei peaks neid nii julgelt praegu mängima IFFi, Ivo Linna't (keskus omakorda ka küüsis)
--
ja nüüd muusika, "CAROLA - It Was You " mis moodi see eeestlastele mõjumja peaks?
Loodame, et jah.. ikka uus Kosmose esindaja Daame asjad paika
--
// Ntex ERR seadustes öeldi just, et selgituseks, selle paberi kohta mida Kuninganna täna Ette luges, et see oli mida kuninganna oli sunnitud ette lugema, see ei olnud Naise enda koostatud ega see mis ta öelda soovis selle kõige kohta. (viimane osa minult, elementaarne lisa selgitus)
//
// Nüüd luule t Merle Jäägeri hääletoonist luulet tunglalt jms
/// okey, jah see on hea veel, kuid miks seda lahjat muusikat selle hea vahele vaja on, kas ei ole ohtlik, kui keegi ei tea, et sellest kanalist heat tuleb, jasatub selle kanalile seeaeg kui lahjad laulud, ...siis keerab edasi ja ei teagi pidama jääda ja see kes pikalt kuulab ka rohkem ebakindlamalt seda jaama uuesti käima paneb või kodumaisena leiab
_
Ivo Mägi / Ivo Mägi mul veel mitu head ivo omal siin, kuid seda klassivenda ei leidnud, kuid jah... kas kõik ivod on üldiselt ühiskonnas tugevamalt tegijad kui Keskmine, on ju nii? Koolis ka vast, ikka mingis vallas, ädasemaid, märkmatuid, ädisemaid ivosi polegi niii palju teada, kui siis heal juhul vist keskendunud mingile alale hoides head Rüütelikku olekut, pigem
et milleks eksperimenteerida siis mingite stiilidega kes pole midagi samaväärse kesktasekti ületanud väärtuse ja tuntuks jäämise tõenäosuse suurust sellistel uutel bändidel arvates ei peaks neid nii julgelt praegu mängima IFFi, Ivo Linna't (keskus omakorda ka küüsis)
--
ja nüüd muusika, "CAROLA - It Was You " mis moodi see eeestlastele mõjumja peaks?
Loodame, et jah.. ikka uus Kosmose esindaja Daame asjad paika
--
// Ntex ERR seadustes öeldi just, et selgituseks, selle paberi kohta mida Kuninganna täna Ette luges, et see oli mida kuninganna oli sunnitud ette lugema, see ei olnud Naise enda koostatud ega see mis ta öelda soovis selle kõige kohta. (viimane osa minult, elementaarne lisa selgitus)
//
// Nüüd luule t Merle Jäägeri hääletoonist luulet tunglalt jms
/// okey, jah see on hea veel, kuid miks seda lahjat muusikat selle hea vahele vaja on, kas ei ole ohtlik, kui keegi ei tea, et sellest kanalist heat tuleb, jasatub selle kanalile seeaeg kui lahjad laulud, ...siis keerab edasi ja ei teagi pidama jääda ja see kes pikalt kuulab ka rohkem ebakindlamalt seda jaama uuesti käima paneb või kodumaisena leiab
_
Ivo Mägi / Ivo Mägi mul veel mitu head ivo omal siin, kuid seda klassivenda ei leidnud, kuid jah... kas kõik ivod on üldiselt ühiskonnas tugevamalt tegijad kui Keskmine, on ju nii? Koolis ka vast, ikka mingis vallas, ädasemaid, märkmatuid, ädisemaid ivosi polegi niii palju teada, kui siis heal juhul vist keskendunud mingile alale hoides head Rüütelikku olekut, pigem
21 June 2017 23:10
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
okey ja tooni poolest "AUGUST HUNT - Tunned leeki" sinna otsa lasta varsti sama tunni, samal päevalgi võib mulje jääda, et sellist depresiivseid pingutusi hakkabki tihtipeale tulema, sest muust nagu polekski laulda
21 June 2017 22:53
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
loomulikult on mõtet, kui teadvus sedasi on ähvardatud, et naiselidused mõtlevad tülpimusega roosidest
21 June 2017 22:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Jumal
Sama teema osas Luterlaste Evengueeliumi õpetajatelt:
http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=999:pkk5ms&catid=106:pkk
Koos seletustega,
Lugemise stiil: Luterlasedhttp://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=999%3Apkk5ms&catid=106%3Apkk
19 June 2017 22:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Jumal
Mida
Sarnase teema osas Jehoova Tunnistajate lehelt:
18:14 https://www.jw.org/et/valjaanded/piibel/nwt/raamatud/5-moosese/18/
18:14 Moosese 5 raamat
" Need rahvad, kelle maa te võtate oma valdusse, kuulavad maage+ ja ennustajaid,+ kuid teil pole Jehoova, teie Jumal, lubanud midagi niisugust teha. 15 Teie Jumal Jehoova annab teile teie vendade seast ühe minusarnase prohveti. Teda kuulake!+ 16 Seda te ju palusite oma Jumalalt Jehoovalt tol päeval, mil te kogunesite Hoorebi juures+ ja ütlesite: „Ära lase meil enam kuulda meie Jumala Jehoova häält ega näha seda suurt tuld, et me ei sureks.”+ 17 Jehoova vastas mulle: „See, mis nad on öelnud, on hea. 18 Ma annan neile nende vendade seast ühe sinusarnase prohveti+ ja panen talle suhu oma sõnad+ ning ta räägib neile kõik, mis ma käsin.+ 19 Kes aga ei kuula mu sõnu, mida ta minu nimel räägib, sellelt nõuan ma aru.+ 20 Kui mõni prohvet räägib jultunult minu nimel midagi, mida ma ei ole käskinud tal rääkida, või kui ta räägib teiste jumalate nimel, siis peab see prohvet surema. "19 June 2017 22:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Jumal
Avalik Jumala töö
http://kes-kus.ee/kuidas-margid-tootavad-filosoofia-doktorant-raivo-j-raave-vaidab-et-tanapaeva-inimest-mojutab-oluliselt-kaasaegse-muinasjutu-sumboolika/http://kes-kus.ee/kuidas-margid-tootavad-filosoofia-doktorant-raivo-j-raave-vaidab-et-tanapaeva-inimest-mojutab-oluliselt-kaasaegse-muinasjutu-sumboolika/
19 June 2017 21:44
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's photo.
Strong
19 June 2017 17:43
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
Link whitout tracking code: http://eyes.nasa.gov/eyes-on-cassini.html
http://eyes.nasa.gov/eyes-on-cassini.html
18 June 2017 13:36
Margus Meigo replied to James OReilly's comment.
but interesting , so high level information, serious one, in this kind of package, as a joke... wonder will people actually get the seriousness as well
18 June 2017 13:11
Margus Meigo replied to James OReilly's comment.
they should low down with these silly sound effects,
18 June 2017 13:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
okey tundub, et keegi eriti ei märganud, võimsad tööriistad Tegelastel..
18 June 2017 12:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
Laurie Lovell yes but sarcasm in the end, from godly perspective, nearly always is insulting of others intelligence
unless there is some uplifting kind of like sarcasm things that are fully thought out as helpful in best way for all parts, but also protective, educating and setting path in to good direction, to all parts18 June 2017 12:36
Margus Meigo replied to Peter Stallinga's comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
apropriate one, thanks18 June 2017 00:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
at same time there is spots on earth with morethen 10 degrees chanages in winter
but as "avarage" is not much change... well...
it is EASY to flood any data with avarages, by measuring thousands of avarage good locations in a way that in totsal , avarage, looks same ,5 th crader can make up scemes like that
not caring to think there is globam warming in a way as it is promoted, but ignoring the fact , interesting ones, that happen, this is what bothers18 June 2017 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Robbins's post.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
these people who calcolate planet avarage in general are so retarded,
i see even no way how to comment these
instead of focusing on DIFFERENCES and abonarmalaties, they focus on avarage
like robots not understanding the Difference of avarage and Differences.
As you can have EXTREME differences and in avarage, no change at all.
Or extreme important changes in one spot that will destroy all but in avarage they seem not signifikant. So these who focus on life by avarage,
so sad to think this version of species..
If you got bad spot on pumpkin root or spot that will for sure spread and kill all, then these "avarage" ptype of tie uniform scientist robots, measure their avarages in healthy spots that still is more, and confirm "in all, avarage, is ALL ok, it is a fact, we measured, highest levels, all tissue we looked was in avarage perfect, no issue"
what you going to do with these ones
can not even cry about them as they not sem to have a soul eg . they not important as animals or plants, or beings with souls or items with importanse as stones.18 June 2017 00:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
(actually i need these facts for my self, this is why i try to irritate and intiminate you to find it, .. but this is another story, i still need these facts thought... )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy3rjQGc6lA17 June 2017 23:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
And how does my in-sane or not sane,
chnages the fact, that we had catapillars outside,
in winter ? becouse temperature was abowe 0 so much, butterflies in december thought it was summer.
and it has not been, in any old people mind, newer like that,
You scientist person ,try to find now this data,
And so sad, that you are not so intelligent, that can not even produce proper facts as answer, to a "relgious insiane" person,
with nonexcistant education
where is these places, in earth,
where is equal season,
and temperature has chnaged, so much
and that it is normal,
this is what i am waiting still,
or then explain ,so smart,
WHY it is normal,
i newer told, about avarage of earth etc, earth is freaking big,m it takes time , the effect, we just have to moove out from our land long before the probelm reaches u in miticigan17 June 2017 23:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
Beaumont Vance Thank you!17 June 2017 23:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
Raymond Meyers You must be complete robot, If You not understand, that Estonia is Center of the entire world, and world hisotry, and human species we have made, long before Atlantians we sinked (becouse their unneeded magic),
but going back to real facts,
it is so funnym that You not able to produce, ANY freakng data, youdata minded alien troll,
About ANY place in world, where has been 10+ degrees temperature change , as "normal"
and you take my info, that we have had WARM, + degreess, abowe 0 , in winter in here now,
and this has NOT been known any time in folkloreeven,
and you cnsider this as insignifikant,
REALLY?
One spot in world ,where is God regulated 4 most equal seasons,
and NOW is not, and You keep telling that it is not something to look in to ? ?
What is wrong with you ?17 June 2017 23:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
REally funny,
About interent, as You know we got more interent in Estonia as avarage, then most places in Earth,17 June 2017 23:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
Sorry, i am irritated about these "avarages " in here,
instead of investigating,
WHAT a freaking DATA You asking, I just telling You, I LIVING IN ESTONIA,
We KNOW what has been and what is
What You measure, in some labarotory in texas or in whatever place, does not really chnage what is17 June 2017 23:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
Raymond Meyers You freaking kidding me right? You come to pick on typing???? You REALY did not have anything else to say?
As one famous person told:
"the ones who dot have to say anything intelligent to reply back in argument they will pick on spelling"
t17 June 2017 23:00
Margus Meigo replied to Patrick Dullea's comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
probabaly17 June 2017 22:59
Margus Meigo replied to Patrick Dullea's comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
i guess people not know, there was alien species who has keep regualting our temperature back to what is been needed17 June 2017 22:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
Okey, So to make it CLEAR,
Once more you smart sciense people, no reason to argue here,
just tell me,
based on Your FULL reputation and knowings,
That this IS COMPLETE NORMAL,
1) if some spots in a planet,
Have in 50 OR 25 years, more then 15 degrees peak temeprature daily differences
2) when there is 10 degrees, or even 20+ degrees changes, (not avarages) in periods of last 10 years compared to ALL known hisotry going as far pack as known, on SOME spots of earth that have had regular 4 seasons in all known history,
If these kind of phenomen (not talking about "global") is technically, scientifically complete normal in aria where is no great montains NOR tornados, NOR any other extreme factors as vulcanos or large rivers, etc.
If these kind of things, are normal, and can You please provide me some data,
of your trusted sources,
where i can read this, and calm down,
that it is happening many places in different times, (like 100 years ago in some other spot in earth where was summer entire ages , was snow for 20 years and then went back to normal, .. or some places, where is hundreds of years one way, then another... then one way again... etc some places like that, who are in normal, flrat places, reccomended places, where is equal normal 4 seasons, ..)
If You say this is normal, well, who knows, as You told, it is normal,
then thats cool, i will start to spread this clobal hoax info also,
if you can not find these data, then i will start to suspect, that You are hoax, will take this converstation whit my faulty writing, and make video with it, from our metrological data as You recomended
but i really DO keep open mind, and prepare my self to see, that thisis normal phonomen
that spot by spot in earth, temperature that has been 100s or thousands of years same, will have extreme temperature changes ,
as i told , ... i can not proove that was thousands of years ago,
but we can, what has been in last 100 years easy17 June 2017 22:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
To make it clear for You kids:
If You SIT on a hot stove,
and i measure your hand,
and your body temperature
with a medical or scientific tools, while You screaming, that Your butt is burning,
and we keep telling: WELL, but your blood is in same temperature.. and Your body seems same much hot as AVARAGE from measuring from THESE spots we like to measure...
How do yo ufeel17 June 2017 22:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
Raymond Meyers and i telling You,
fraking robots, STOP with a freaking AWARAGE, you language freaks and politicians,
LOOK up the FACTUAL DATA
And then EXPLAIN THIS DATA,
And then i am pleased,
If you think, 20 degrees temperature drop is normal, then go shoot yourself17 June 2017 22:37
Margus Meigo replied to Patrick Dullea's comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
Clearification: Climate Hoax is the belief, that there has not been in planet, unpresented temperature extreme signifigant chnages in last 50 years.17 June 2017 22:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
DO as i told punk, pissing me off , hard to not curse, :
LOOK up IN Estonia, 50 years ago
WINTER period, DAILY temperatures,
AND NOW; winter periods, daily temperatures,
if yo uimagine, you can find only 4 degrees difference... well You will be for suprice
Why i have to explain so freaking simple thing in so many times, do this work, if You REALLY interested17 June 2017 22:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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You robot still calcualte AVARAGES in a plantet, not understanding, that it starts POINT BY POINT
if You mess upall data in to one "avarage" it is MEANINGLESS,
If You would have ben SERIOUS, not a troll, you would have looked uo, being interested, about these exagurated facts i presented, instead, You keep talking about some USELESS "avarage"
Clear for who you worked17 June 2017 22:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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I am out, come back with actual data,
IN LAST 100 year time periods,
THEN come to talk,
IN ARIAS, where is 4 equal seasons,
So the measurments would have meaning
no need to measure in africa or in london, where it has been near similar most ofthe time17 June 2017 22:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
Beaumont Vance I just told You, the data, You are the troll one,
WHY You people just keep acting like ROBOTS?
I just told You ,the ACTUAL facts, and you still look in to some labarotory data ?
Yes there is records, it is easy to get
What has been last 10 years winter period temperature drops, (and do NOT calcualte freaking AVARAGES!!!! But actual temeratures up and down, as change can happen ower 15 degrees with 2 days in last years, for Your information)
and measure this, to what was 50 yrears ago,
with what has been last 10 years,
It is SO easy to see,
Look ESTONIA data,
As seems ,rest of the world data is kind of unrealaiable looking from the calcualtons they present, " 10 000 years ago"!17 June 2017 22:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
Beaumont Vance why You put this USELESS data here,
you understand there is just 4 degrees change on this chart?
WHAT has this to do with anything?
We talking about 20 degrees chnage.17 June 2017 22:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
OKey, then is solved, i thought my self also, that i overreacted17 June 2017 22:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
No YOU NEED TO LEARN LOGIC,
I am telling you : there has neen NO CHANGE IN WINTERS,
FROM KNOWN TIMES; in ONE of the OLDEST KNOWN culture history,
WE GOT restorants that are 2 times older, then Your entire America,
active ones, active restoraunts older then 700 years, churches more then 1000 years,
among world largest folklore collection,
world oldest culture in ONE place after ice age, still as one country,
AND when WE know, there has NOT neen chnage like that,
FOR SURE in last hundreds of years,
and then now, when there has not been just ExTREME tempertaure change,
but there is even no freaking snow,
and some labarotory freaks come to tell us, the ycalcualted ,there is just 2-4 degrees of chnage,
it makes yo uwant to shoot some one17 June 2017 22:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
NO
WHEADER, has NOT, "always" changed,
like this, in near known history, NEWER
Show me, 100 years ago, data,
where was normal, 20 degrees of demeprature chnage, for a 10 years+ counting17 June 2017 22:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
(becouse she has no reason to be retarded nor has she no agenda to lie, ... and hey.. she does not need to do it, i MY SELF remeber, there WAS a snow, and now there is not).
And then some retard robots whit ties come to "calculate" some avarages in labarotory,
so freaking retarded makes me need to go smoke some weed to calm down or feel need to blow up some one17 June 2017 22:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
Russell McElroy You DO realise, this is FACT what i told right?
That science, this kind what people whit ties are doing, is a joke,
and that what grandmother is telling, is more trustworthy by far lenght,17 June 2017 22:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
Yes, FOLKLORE is actually true as we know,
Science just poked people brains with metal sticks , 100 yearsago,
to cure "mental ilness"
no brainer what we should know and believe17 June 2017 22:11
Margus Meigo commented on Manish Kumar Sah's post.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
But for the ones, who think that is normal, the EXTREME weather change
From HAVING a SNOW, in a country that has had hundreds of years regular snow, to REGULARY NOT HAVING, more and more..
TO imagine, that this is NOT happening, needs some special kind of drugs,
OR living in stone boxes, in some city where you have not time to look outside and understand what You see,
OR living in arias, where you do not have proper 4 EQUAL seasons, based on what You can measure, if something has changed or not.
When from 30 to 60 CM of REGULAR snow, from HUNDREDS (thousands) of years, is down to a situation, where in DEcember, middle of "winter" a you meet caterpillar's who are in middle of the Metamorphosis ... as there has been FIRST TIME IN REASENT KNOWN HISTORY a sun outside, midle of winter, so strongly, that butterflies thinked it was spring 4 months before... to think that this is "imaginary" some "corporations scam"
then You must be complete BOOK SNOOB who knows NOTHING about real life,
just reading your retardation facts from books, between stone walls, and imagine that this is what is,
instead FREAKING LOOKING OUTSIDE,
AND LOOKING REAL FREAKING FACTS...
i not telling, it is a humans, maybe is lizards, maybe is time for another ice age or magnetic reversals or what ever,
just telling, that if some here, imagines, that there is just "few degrees" chnage,
becosue some data centers calculated out "avarage" as freaking robots,
and you belive this,
then just better if you go and remove yoursefl as species has not a much value having so low inteligence communist minds spreading on earth here,
(well, unless You got good heart, and you want to evolve, your mind, then just look up proper PHYSICAL facts, OUTSIDE, and ... )
man this topic tripped me out, if i would only know english to express my self,
Yes, i got pictures with butterflies, IN ESTONIA, IN DECEMBER
YES; i remeber there was LARGE snow in childhood, and grandparents far back told, it has always been so, ALWAYS; as far their grandparents know,
and now, last 10 years there has not been, and is in fact more and more warm...
so ANYONE who try to refute thjis by some labarotory measurments and fact then go jump down from somewhere or blow up these laboratoryes, bastards are these who produce this fake crap whit "avarage" measurments17 June 2017 22:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
Sarcasm does not really help and is not needed anymore ,in this times, as this confuses people and deevolves them most who not get sarcasm17 June 2017 21:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
You mean, "this site"
as facebook?17 June 2017 21:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
Laurie Lovell only if we make effort to teach each other to teach each other17 June 2017 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
Laurie Lovell Oh jeah, well,
as father so the children,
(Conifer() cone does not fall far from stump17 June 2017 21:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
but all the warm and cold , that is be on humans, well..
then we can call up helping scinetist again...
this is how sircle go17 June 2017 21:41
Margus Meigo commented on Manish Kumar Sah's post.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
Remove humans ?
(but i am not for science really)17 June 2017 21:40
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
pahh, no handles
17 June 2017 21:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
teamwork is one word, i guess
16 June 2017 22:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
For basic education on Most important, most clear way look up Rabbi Manis Friedman
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rabbi+manis+friedman+marriage+
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rabbi+manis+friedman+marriage+
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rabbi+manis+friedman+marriage+
15 June 2017 18:33
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
Next will be someone calling "a marriage" when one engages wit ha coffee machine .
Why they use this word, for something else? Not even funny as it is used so much some people start to forget, that this word meaning,
is ONLY, and ONLY possible when Female and Male JOIN IN TO ONE BODY,
yes, there is ritual some make some paperwork and church visits for some.. this is just local customs related to marriage, to get spiritual or legal protection,
but the point is, it is metaphysical, godly event, when Man will transform in to ANOTHER BEING, that is NOT man anymore, but an "husband"
women is not anymore a separate being, but they are ONE with a man,
But looking in what level some people make Las Vegas marry games, seems the "normal" people are the ones to blame first here, for destroying the actual meaning of what this word is. And always will be and always have been.
if You start to call elephant a CellPhone, it will not start ringing, she will still be a animal.
Why they use this word, for something else? Not even funny as it is used so much some people start to forget, that this word meaning,
is ONLY, and ONLY possible when Female and Male JOIN IN TO ONE BODY,
yes, there is ritual some make some paperwork and church visits for some.. this is just local customs related to marriage, to get spiritual or legal protection,
but the point is, it is metaphysical, godly event, when Man will transform in to ANOTHER BEING, that is NOT man anymore, but an "husband"
women is not anymore a separate being, but they are ONE with a man,
But looking in what level some people make Las Vegas marry games, seems the "normal" people are the ones to blame first here, for destroying the actual meaning of what this word is. And always will be and always have been.
if You start to call elephant a CellPhone, it will not start ringing, she will still be a animal.
15 June 2017 18:31
Margus Meigo commented on Ancient Aliens India's photo.
Yes, this is The fact, in to what these "churces" are
15 June 2017 17:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siin ka leitud teiemeelseid vist:
http://joel-friedrich-steinfeldt.blogspot.com.ee/2017/06/joel-steinfeldt-rapasema-suuga.html
http://joel-friedrich-steinfeldt.blogspot.com.ee/2017/06/joel-steinfeldt-rapasema-suuga.html
http://joel-friedrich-steinfeldt.blogspot.com.ee/2017/06/joel-steinfeldt-rapasema-suuga.html
14 June 2017 20:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ega vist ei julge?
nu kui häbi tunda, see ka arengu märk, täitsa saan aru,
igalühel oleks häbi kellel natuke veel inimest või eestlast sees alles on
nu kui häbi tunda, see ka arengu märk, täitsa saan aru,
igalühel oleks häbi kellel natuke veel inimest või eestlast sees alles on
14 June 2017 20:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
NIHILIST.FM kes Sa inimesena muidu oma konto taga oled, paneks listi,
või oled liialt ARG?
Nutame teie saatuse pärast homovärdjate kummardajad
või oled liialt ARG?
Nutame teie saatuse pärast homovärdjate kummardajad
http://nihilist.fm/
14 June 2017 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on NIHILIST.FM's link.
Siin muidugi ka huvitavat:
https://justpaste.it/rl4n
https://justpaste.it/rl4n
https://justpaste.it/rl4n
14 June 2017 20:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
need 14 kes siin laikisid ka palju normaaalsemad enam hinges olla saa,
kui ametlikult vaadata
kui ametlikult vaadata
14 June 2017 20:15
Margus Meigo commented on NIHILIST.FM's link.
Nii sügavalt pervertselt haigeid, kes sellise meedia taga on... neid on raske kommenteerida,
nad ajaloo kurjemate värdidega ühes pundis
nad ajaloo kurjemate värdidega ühes pundis
14 June 2017 20:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Metsandus, metsamehed, metsamasinad, metsatehnika, saetööstus jne.....
+ tervislikuimad12 June 2017 21:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Metsandus, metsamehed, metsamasinad, metsatehnika, saetööstus jne.....
ilusaimad ka12 June 2017 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on Valram Lillakas's post.
Group: Metsandus, metsamehed, metsamasinad, metsatehnika, saetööstus jne.....
Puidu tooted (toolid, ehitus, saunad...) on minuarust planeedi kõige väärtuslikumad mis kunagi olnud ja on12 June 2017 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on Valram Lillakas's post.
Group: Metsandus, metsamehed, metsamasinad, metsatehnika, saetööstus jne.....
Peaasi, et mäletame, Eestlastena, et Puud on hingelised olenid, ja meid inimestena hoiavad, meile kõike pakuvad ja enne meid siin olid,
Kuid jah.. Puit on meie kuld,
kui vaid inimesed seda rohkem austama õpiks ja betoon karpide asemele, välismaale müüdavasse tühja maale tagasi suunduksid, et siin jalg maha panna, kuni veel meil on maad... Hmm
Kuid Valdram, tubli tubli, töö osas!12 June 2017 21:33
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Nukker, kuid nii on,
rihmad ka veel kaelas...
Inimkoer vist ainukesi kes seda ise endale kaela seob, see nagu .. mis asi see oligi, mis epiteemiast suurem tase on ?
rihmad ka veel kaelas...
Inimkoer vist ainukesi kes seda ise endale kaela seob, see nagu .. mis asi see oligi, mis epiteemiast suurem tase on ?
12 June 2017 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to Sass Vask's comment.
he usualy does, as they even had a special name for them who they use and later they not need, it was called in Wikipedia terms "Useful_idiot"
11 June 2017 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on Paul Joseph Watson's photo.
These arrogant bricks in there and wonder why they get bombings.
Good to hear few good Jew words on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2utUSJM-50
Good to hear few good Jew words on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2utUSJM-50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2utUSJM-50
11 June 2017 18:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 June 2017 16:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
11 June 2017 16:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kordussaade küll.
11 June 2017 15:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Martinile öeldi tungiva suunatud energiaga paraleelLauses :
"Martin, See ei olnud see mida me kuulda tahtsime"
(mis sai kokku lepitud mis piires ennast hoiad)
"Martin, See ei olnud see mida me kuulda tahtsime"
(mis sai kokku lepitud mis piires ennast hoiad)
11 June 2017 15:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i am just radical about that
11 June 2017 00:21
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Forte's post.
Well, unfortunately, he died wearing a Tie, so yeah... not a leader of a free world,still room to go.
Putin might even end up in history before other Top minds, on this realization, how is appropriate to die, in what state of mind to leave to a people
Putin might even end up in history before other Top minds, on this realization, how is appropriate to die, in what state of mind to leave to a people
11 June 2017 00:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Naise Jõu..
https://www.facebook.com/tervendavadhelideesti/photos/a.495186233950739.1073741827.495166607286035/990172191118805/?type=1&theater
https://www.facebook.com/tervendavadhelideesti/photos/a.495186233950739.1073741827.495166607286035/990172191118805/?type=1&theater
9 June 2017 17:57
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ja muide minu töö ongi Jutt,
teod jutupõhjal, on inimkonna teha.
Kui minu elu minu enda teha oleks, minu enda jaoks ainult, ilma südametunnistuseta ja tunneteta oleksin sündinud, kui teatud eri katsed või juhused mind sellisesse teadvusesse toonud poleks... siis ma ammu puhkaks soojalt ja kõbistaks stabiilset tööd.
Oleks ka oma Armastusega koos.
Aga mulle pole seda luksust Jumala poolt antud, et teiste probleeme ignoreerida, samas aga on kingitud võimalus, koos olukordadega mille pean oskama ära tunnetada ennast ärkvel hoides kui soovin südant teenida, et aidata (neid)need kellel on teovõime, oma teod õigesti rakendada.
teod jutupõhjal, on inimkonna teha.
Kui minu elu minu enda teha oleks, minu enda jaoks ainult, ilma südametunnistuseta ja tunneteta oleksin sündinud, kui teatud eri katsed või juhused mind sellisesse teadvusesse toonud poleks... siis ma ammu puhkaks soojalt ja kõbistaks stabiilset tööd.
Oleks ka oma Armastusega koos.
Aga mulle pole seda luksust Jumala poolt antud, et teiste probleeme ignoreerida, samas aga on kingitud võimalus, koos olukordadega mille pean oskama ära tunnetada ennast ärkvel hoides kui soovin südant teenida, et aidata (neid)need kellel on teovõime, oma teod õigesti rakendada.
9 June 2017 17:20
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
9 June 2017 17:11
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
9 June 2017 17:10
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov ja see tähendab?
9 June 2017 17:08
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kui valusalt raske seda tunnetada ja talufda on neil kes reaalsed maa, koduma inimesed juba põlvkondadega... seda sügavat kaastunnet ei saa me tunnetadagi , kui siis vast hetkeliselt abivahenditega
kui oskaks paneks sõnadesse
kui oskaks paneks sõnadesse
9 June 2017 17:05
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Vähe sellest, et linna inimesi suunatakse sellele aktiivset avalikku vastutööd mitte tehes,
(ei ole avalike suuri linnastumise vastaseid programme, kooliharidust ega meediat näha, mis VÄGA kahtlane, näitamaks, et Valitsus ei ole suures osas enam Eestlaste, inimeste käes)
vaid surutakse peale ka aktiivselt "modern art" ja "moder/brutal desing" ehk siis vangla karpsüsteemi mudelid,
öeldes, et linnaosasi muidu ei arendata ,kui sellist stiili "arhidektuuri" asemel midagi inimlikumat soovid,
isegi karpmaju saaks teha kenamalt ja kuninglikumalt, inimestele väärilisemalt, mis nende ajusi ei ummistaks halli masendusse röövides kogu reaalse kodumaa tunnetuse ja arusaama paari generatsiooniga elutute kivikarpide vahel elades.
Moned inime inimesed, mida Eestlaste seas keskmiselt vägapalju rohkem, muidugi suutnud elu ja hinge säilitada, hoides ka linna inimesi inimestena kellel veel moraali, usu ja väärtuste tunnetus alles
(ei ole avalike suuri linnastumise vastaseid programme, kooliharidust ega meediat näha, mis VÄGA kahtlane, näitamaks, et Valitsus ei ole suures osas enam Eestlaste, inimeste käes)
vaid surutakse peale ka aktiivselt "modern art" ja "moder/brutal desing" ehk siis vangla karpsüsteemi mudelid,
öeldes, et linnaosasi muidu ei arendata ,kui sellist stiili "arhidektuuri" asemel midagi inimlikumat soovid,
isegi karpmaju saaks teha kenamalt ja kuninglikumalt, inimestele väärilisemalt, mis nende ajusi ei ummistaks halli masendusse röövides kogu reaalse kodumaa tunnetuse ja arusaama paari generatsiooniga elutute kivikarpide vahel elades.
Moned inime inimesed, mida Eestlaste seas keskmiselt vägapalju rohkem, muidugi suutnud elu ja hinge säilitada, hoides ka linna inimesi inimestena kellel veel moraali, usu ja väärtuste tunnetus alles
9 June 2017 17:01
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov kuidas Sa sellise meelsuse välja mõtlesid,et inimesi ei sunnita linna elama??
Vahest tundub, et ikka mõtled endiselt ISE ISE ISE, ISIKLIKULT, 1 inimese vaatevinklist, (eeldades, et teistele ka nende ENDA elu korda läheb rohkem kui ümbritsevate inimeste elu Tulevikus mida oma silm ei näe, ehk see mis reaalselt loeb ERITI kui inimkonna parandamise ja juhtimisega tegeled, nii vaimselt kui füüsiliselt. reaalselt või lootuses)
maailm aga koosneb mitmesugustest suurest seostest, mite " minust "
ja sellepärast, on vaja, et need lapsesaati kurjuses (isekuses) elavad inimesed hakkaksid natuke väljaspoole endast vaatama, arvestades kõike teadaolevaid ja reaalseid süsteeme ja vajadusi pikas perspektiivis, väärtuste perspektiivis.
Vahest tundub, et ikka mõtled endiselt ISE ISE ISE, ISIKLIKULT, 1 inimese vaatevinklist, (eeldades, et teistele ka nende ENDA elu korda läheb rohkem kui ümbritsevate inimeste elu Tulevikus mida oma silm ei näe, ehk see mis reaalselt loeb ERITI kui inimkonna parandamise ja juhtimisega tegeled, nii vaimselt kui füüsiliselt. reaalselt või lootuses)
maailm aga koosneb mitmesugustest suurest seostest, mite " minust "
ja sellepärast, on vaja, et need lapsesaati kurjuses (isekuses) elavad inimesed hakkaksid natuke väljaspoole endast vaatama, arvestades kõike teadaolevaid ja reaalseid süsteeme ja vajadusi pikas perspektiivis, väärtuste perspektiivis.
9 June 2017 16:56
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Niivõiteisiti on perverstne kui mitu korrust inimesi üksteise otsas ja kõrval elab, pikemat aega ka veel mitte ajutiselt kuskil sõjaväe v pioneeri laagris noortevahetuse korras.
Senikaua kui inimesed aru ei saa, et see on HAIGLANE (nagu ka lipsu kandmine) kui su peal või all inimesed elavad, siis ei saa neid ei eestlasteks ega ka maalasteks suures plaanis nimetada.,
Naistest me ei hakka rääkima, see on mehe töö arusaada,
naised meil planeedil sedasi, et nad ELU HOIMDISEKS ka Laava otsa meiega kaasa elama tulevad, kui mees nõuab, palub, usub, et see hea ja vajalik on.
Senikaua kui inimesed aru ei saa, et see on HAIGLANE (nagu ka lipsu kandmine) kui su peal või all inimesed elavad, siis ei saa neid ei eestlasteks ega ka maalasteks suures plaanis nimetada.,
Naistest me ei hakka rääkima, see on mehe töö arusaada,
naised meil planeedil sedasi, et nad ELU HOIMDISEKS ka Laava otsa meiega kaasa elama tulevad, kui mees nõuab, palub, usub, et see hea ja vajalik on.
9 June 2017 16:15
Margus Meigo replied to Ai Mar's comment.
tihtipeale näitab ikka.
Kui kodumaa au ja väärtus pannakse raha taha, et pigem isiklik raha kui see mis on suuresplaanis hea enamustele
siis ainuke "austus" sellistele, on raha mida nad teenivad või teistelt välja lüpsavad.
See pole siin ISIKLIK projekt, vaid KODUMAA; SÜDALINNA, KRIITILISEM teenurk,
seda ei peaks vaatama, teenimise silme läbi, vaid KUIDAS KODUMAALE parim oleks, isklikud ambitsioonid tuleb siin VÄGA tahaplaanile panna, sest makstakse NAGUNII sellise töö eest palju, rahas pole ammugi küsimus.
Kui kodumaa au ja väärtus pannakse raha taha, et pigem isiklik raha kui see mis on suuresplaanis hea enamustele
siis ainuke "austus" sellistele, on raha mida nad teenivad või teistelt välja lüpsavad.
See pole siin ISIKLIK projekt, vaid KODUMAA; SÜDALINNA, KRIITILISEM teenurk,
seda ei peaks vaatama, teenimise silme läbi, vaid KUIDAS KODUMAALE parim oleks, isklikud ambitsioonid tuleb siin VÄGA tahaplaanile panna, sest makstakse NAGUNII sellise töö eest palju, rahas pole ammugi küsimus.
9 June 2017 16:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ja loomulikult ma ei mõelnud tõsiselt, et niisama tööd teesklema keegi peaks, kuid nad oma häbitegu isegi ei vaevu varjama, .. see paneb imestama, üüratu ükskõiksus ja hoolimatus.
Kuid eelkõige kütab see katelt kõigerohkem, et on palju ausaid töökaid inimesi, kodumaiseid, kes seda tööd OMA KODUMAALE austusega ja hästi teha sooviks, aga antakse selleasemel, mingitele firmadele, kelle moraal on JOKK ja tsillviad rahulikult seanahka venitades
Kuid eelkõige kütab see katelt kõigerohkem, et on palju ausaid töökaid inimesi, kodumaiseid, kes seda tööd OMA KODUMAALE austusega ja hästi teha sooviks, aga antakse selleasemel, mingitele firmadele, kelle moraal on JOKK ja tsillviad rahulikult seanahka venitades
9 June 2017 15:58
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
NY elurajoonides on öösel rohkem lärmi kui need masinad kunagi kokku teha suudaks parima tahtmise juures
9 June 2017 15:43
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Võtavad linna tähtsama teeotsa tööpakkumise ja pole vahendeid et seda täita, ootavad järjekorda?
Fak maksku omakorda allhanget ja palgaku neid kellel on vajalikud masinad ja õlid.
Aga asi selles,et kuna seda ei võeta oma kodumaana, mida armastatakse, mille eest hoolitsetakse, siis tehakse suva järgi ja venitatakse tähtpäevad täis, et suuri summasi mis sisse kaseeriti, kuidagi õigustada, parimal juhul,
kuid halvimal juhul see on disainitud riigi häbistamise projekt,
millena ta ka välja kukkus, kes kultuuriliselt mõelda oskab
Fak maksku omakorda allhanget ja palgaku neid kellel on vajalikud masinad ja õlid.
Aga asi selles,et kuna seda ei võeta oma kodumaana, mida armastatakse, mille eest hoolitsetakse, siis tehakse suva järgi ja venitatakse tähtpäevad täis, et suuri summasi mis sisse kaseeriti, kuidagi õigustada, parimal juhul,
kuid halvimal juhul see on disainitud riigi häbistamise projekt,
millena ta ka välja kukkus, kes kultuuriliselt mõelda oskab
9 June 2017 15:43
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Me räägime olukorast, kus ööpäeva ringselt on sedasi asjad, nädalaid,
ja linna häirib palju rohkem kui maantee on üles kaevatud, mis elumajad sul virukeskuse ümber asuvad, töö on vaja ära teha seda saavad kõik aru ja see masinatega klopsimine ei ole eriti suurema kolaga, linna mürast, koligu maale kui rahu tahavad.
Siin ei pea olema spetsalist, et aru saada, et olukord EI ole normaalne.
ja linna häirib palju rohkem kui maantee on üles kaevatud, mis elumajad sul virukeskuse ümber asuvad, töö on vaja ära teha seda saavad kõik aru ja see masinatega klopsimine ei ole eriti suurema kolaga, linna mürast, koligu maale kui rahu tahavad.
Siin ei pea olema spetsalist, et aru saada, et olukord EI ole normaalne.
9 June 2017 15:40
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov see juba on tase, 12 tundi päevas umbes,
Ainuke koht on pühapäev kus oleks sobilik mitte inimesi tööle ajada, kuid muidu kahes satsis töölised peaks toimetama sellise kohapeal, mis peaaegu ööpäeva ringi täis teeks, ja ületundide ees tuleb maksta topelt,
ikkagi meie SÜDALINNA KRIITLISEM ja ENIM tähelepanuväärseim, enim nähtavaim teelõik,
seellepealt pole vaja kokku hoida, vaid hästi ja kiirelt ära teha.
Pealegi, nii pika ajaga, arvestades, et nad masinaid rendivad jms, see neil lausa kallimaks läks arvatavasti võrreldes ületundide ja topelt töölistega, kes töö kindlasti 3-4 korda kiiremalt oleks saanud tehtud
Ainuke koht on pühapäev kus oleks sobilik mitte inimesi tööle ajada, kuid muidu kahes satsis töölised peaks toimetama sellise kohapeal, mis peaaegu ööpäeva ringi täis teeks, ja ületundide ees tuleb maksta topelt,
ikkagi meie SÜDALINNA KRIITLISEM ja ENIM tähelepanuväärseim, enim nähtavaim teelõik,
seellepealt pole vaja kokku hoida, vaid hästi ja kiirelt ära teha.
Pealegi, nii pika ajaga, arvestades, et nad masinaid rendivad jms, see neil lausa kallimaks läks arvatavasti võrreldes ületundide ja topelt töölistega, kes töö kindlasti 3-4 korda kiiremalt oleks saanud tehtud
9 June 2017 15:30
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov nu näed, mis FAKING "TÖÖPÄEV LÄBI" ??
ÖÖPÄEVARINGSELT peab töötama sellisel kohal, ja leidma firma kes seda teeb, mitte suvaliste suitsu kimavate sellidega piirduda
Selliselt oli see asi ENAMUSE aja,
selliselt oli nende töö ka vanalinnas, kus inimesed uudisteski kurtsid, et vanalinna firmade kogu töö on nädalaid seiskunud ja samas miskid kutid paarkorda päevas käivad töörõivastuses suitsu tegemas, seistes ltööriista najal
ÖÖPÄEVARINGSELT peab töötama sellisel kohal, ja leidma firma kes seda teeb, mitte suvaliste suitsu kimavate sellidega piirduda
Selliselt oli see asi ENAMUSE aja,
selliselt oli nende töö ka vanalinnas, kus inimesed uudisteski kurtsid, et vanalinna firmade kogu töö on nädalaid seiskunud ja samas miskid kutid paarkorda päevas käivad töörõivastuses suitsu tegemas, seistes ltööriista najal
9 June 2017 15:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
if some robot puts on women clothes and makeup,
you will not call this being "a woman" just because one pretends to be one, and what he does and how he looks does not resemble a woman, specially the core, missing uterus.
Same with conservatism, ... and Fox, what is even more larger stretch as they are allowed to pretend to be "conservative" so long in liberal media (ultimate way they are hidden dark shadow part of red-liberals),
that some people who knows not better, will really start to think it is so, if they not know the word meaning, what should be behind it, and then next step is retardation where human will start to speak against conservatism making it self look utterly mindless in anyones eyes who actually knows and understands the word meaning.
you will not call this being "a woman" just because one pretends to be one, and what he does and how he looks does not resemble a woman, specially the core, missing uterus.
Same with conservatism, ... and Fox, what is even more larger stretch as they are allowed to pretend to be "conservative" so long in liberal media (ultimate way they are hidden dark shadow part of red-liberals),
that some people who knows not better, will really start to think it is so, if they not know the word meaning, what should be behind it, and then next step is retardation where human will start to speak against conservatism making it self look utterly mindless in anyones eyes who actually knows and understands the word meaning.
9 June 2017 15:20
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja sellist negatiivset reklaami riigivastase tööna, et lia naljalt raha eest, seda peab ikka koostöös jõududega tekitama ja jõududega paigal hoidma.
Mõni jaapanlane näeb, et SÜDA linnas, lihtsalt päevade viisi maanteed on üles kaevatud ja keegi tööd ei tee?
See on nii arusaamatu dinesioon normaalsete inimeste jaoks, et uskumatu, siin pole midagi vahet mis lõpukuupäev on, et " JOKK " oleks,
riigivastaste jammastest lipsude kari tehku järgminekord siis leping, et töö tegemine eeldab, et sul töölise dpidevalt siblivad seal platsil, tehku ringtantsu töörõivastes kui muud teha pole, selliseid kohti ei hoita lihtsalt lahtikaevatuna ja tühjalt,
Mõni jaapanlane näeb, et SÜDA linnas, lihtsalt päevade viisi maanteed on üles kaevatud ja keegi tööd ei tee?
See on nii arusaamatu dinesioon normaalsete inimeste jaoks, et uskumatu, siin pole midagi vahet mis lõpukuupäev on, et " JOKK " oleks,
riigivastaste jammastest lipsude kari tehku järgminekord siis leping, et töö tegemine eeldab, et sul töölise dpidevalt siblivad seal platsil, tehku ringtantsu töörõivastes kui muud teha pole, selliseid kohti ei hoita lihtsalt lahtikaevatuna ja tühjalt,
9 June 2017 15:17
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
selline asi näib IGALE adekvaatselt maalt tulevale turistile ikka VÄGA häbiväärne ja koomiline füüsiline reklaam, mis jääb kogu riigi välispinda häbistama pikaks ajaks, vankumatult, füüüsilise tõendina.
9 June 2017 15:14
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
SELLINE konkurss tehti, kus kõik firmad kes osalesid, arvestasid, et nad 80% ajast ei tee tööd ??
9 June 2017 15:13
Margus Meigo replied to Anti Kerdo's comment.
see on lisaks tõesti hea
9 June 2017 15:03
Margus Meigo replied to Anti Kerdo's comment.
eraldi juurde jah, sidrunimahla ka tõesti hea panna, kuid see juba eksootika mida pole käepärast enamustel naturaalsel kodupõllul
9 June 2017 15:03
Margus Meigo replied to Anti Kerdo's comment.
õli sellepärast, et see seob need taimed selliseks, et nad ei kuiva ja on pehmed, tõiesti suvaline õli sobib millel pole eraldi maitset. Õli ennast tunda pole,sest see naad & nõgese sisse imedub.
9 June 2017 15:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ahjaa ilmselgelt tuleb see kõik peeneks hakkida oblikate ja muuga segamini segada koos õligsa mis lubab seda salatit taldrukuall kausis kasvõi soojas vabalt ööpäeva seista
9 June 2017 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui süüa praekartuliga (mille koored eraldi sisse praetud...) siis sellele miskit mineralilist soola võib ju muidu maitseks lisada, kuid
kui üldse maitseainet selliste salatite puhul kasutanud olen, siis ÕUNAäädikat sutsu või sidrunit,
oh, hapuoblikad on ka, salatis, just meenus, ja päris palju!
kui üldse maitseainet selliste salatite puhul kasutanud olen, siis ÕUNAäädikat sutsu või sidrunit,
oh, hapuoblikad on ka, salatis, just meenus, ja päris palju!
9 June 2017 02:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
okey vast selle keegi enne juba välja mõelnud, aga see päris hea,
tomateid pole vaja, mitte, et mul punase vastu miskit oleks (kuigi roheline on parem, v.a juhul kui tegu metsmarjadega ).
Kuid ega see tomat ka kahtlasest puust ja eelkõige ta maitselist väärtust juurde ei anna niipalju kui marineeritud või soola kurk
(või on see õigemini tähendab happukurk mis mul siin kasutuses on kui nüüd õigesti mõelda)
tomateid pole vaja, mitte, et mul punase vastu miskit oleks (kuigi roheline on parem, v.a juhul kui tegu metsmarjadega ).
Kuid ega see tomat ka kahtlasest puust ja eelkõige ta maitselist väärtust juurde ei anna niipalju kui marineeritud või soola kurk
(või on see õigemini tähendab happukurk mis mul siin kasutuses on kui nüüd õigesti mõelda)
9 June 2017 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on Kenneth James Gannon's post.
Group: Anthropology and Race
You know, when it is a dead person, it is nice to put it back to a grave or in to a ground where it must be,
would You feel nice someone disrespecting Your mother
maybe they even some really important, more important then us, would it be nice, respectful for us in their culture point of view, to do so ?
specially when is possible the new theory about how it can be seen in another dimension9 June 2017 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on Kenneth James Gannon's post.
Group: Anthropology and Race
So is that confirmed true and what does it means?
(if it is true and is not allowed to talk in a school the true meaning of it, what does it mean, in what state of mind our science and schools, government is , who is afraid these ones who does not allow to tell us how it is, and why would they do it, what would it change for them, maybe they worry for not a big reason and we can explain them why is important to be honest? )9 June 2017 01:25
Margus Meigo replied to Ai Mar's comment.
ja mis porganditesse puutub, siis neid pole arvatavasti üldse inimliigile vaja. Nagu ka paljut muud, millest maailmas midagi hullemaks ei muutu, kui neid pervostunud taimi või moode enam ei toodeta mida loodusel ei ole vaja ei tehniliseks ega bioloogiliseks kaitseks, mille elus hoidmine võtab rohkem energiat kui rohkem kasu andvad naturaalsed loodusosad mida ei pea järjepidevalt orjama, saades vastutasuks ei midagi erilisemat, kui sama töövaevaga, või kergeminigi veel muid tooteid tootes...
7 June 2017 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to Ai Mar's comment.
kuid kuna ma enamasti tegelen sellega, et ütlen inimesele mida INIMESE oma hing, talle öelda soovib suureltjaolt, siis oleks naeruväärne arvata, et ei peaks inimene kuuletuma sellele mida talle ütlen
lihtsalt selle kõige sidumiseks, kasutan muud folkloori, et asi koos püsiks, siis kui suurema energiaga kohaliku maa teadlikus mälestustes asjad toimima hakkavad
lihtsalt selle kõige sidumiseks, kasutan muud folkloori, et asi koos püsiks, siis kui suurema energiaga kohaliku maa teadlikus mälestustes asjad toimima hakkavad
7 June 2017 23:30
Margus Meigo replied to Ai Mar's comment.
Vahe on selle,s et mul ei ole luksust, sellist, olla ükskõikne, et "las nad eksivad"
IGA inimese eraelu eksimus, on MIINUS minu aeda, mis isiklikult aeglustab seda mida vaja teha on.
Iga nende valu, on minu tegemata töö, mõistad?
IGA inimese eraelu eksimus, on MIINUS minu aeda, mis isiklikult aeglustab seda mida vaja teha on.
Iga nende valu, on minu tegemata töö, mõistad?
7 June 2017 23:29
Margus Meigo replied to Ai Mar's comment.
Kui isegi see teooria paika peaks, et kõik on erinevad,
siis see ei muuda olukorda ja nad ikkagi peavad mõtlema sedasi, kuidas on parem ja õigem, kui kiiremini maailmale kaasa aidata soovivad. See et keegi on oma arust erinev, ei ole vabandus selleks, et eirata mida teha ja mõelda vaja on,
siis see ei muuda olukorda ja nad ikkagi peavad mõtlema sedasi, kuidas on parem ja õigem, kui kiiremini maailmale kaasa aidata soovivad. See et keegi on oma arust erinev, ei ole vabandus selleks, et eirata mida teha ja mõelda vaja on,
7 June 2017 23:26
Margus Meigo replied to Ai Mar's comment.
selliselt eksides on mulle juba varem proovitud soovitust anda,
sellele vastamine on pikk.
Minu jaoks on vaimne vägivald ja solvang peaaegu et, kui öeldakse, et
inimesed ei peaks nii mõtlema nagu mina
sellele vastamine on pikk.
Minu jaoks on vaimne vägivald ja solvang peaaegu et, kui öeldakse, et
inimesed ei peaks nii mõtlema nagu mina
7 June 2017 23:23
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kurb hakkab nii kurvas reaalsuses elavate inimeste osas7 June 2017 22:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Cannabis Without Borders
or communists, if you want to name them earthly7 June 2017 22:38
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Genovy's post.
Group: Cannabis Without Borders
I am not telling it's aliens, but, its aliens7 June 2017 22:38
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
7 June 2017 21:44
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
7 June 2017 21:34
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Veel üks toreda CVga mees: Albert "Bert" Newton Stubblebine III
Mõelda vaid kui sellised TIP sõjaväe liidrid, USA sõjaväe südamikku juhtivad, on tegelikult olemas?
Ehk siis: intelligence restructuring earned him his place in the Intelligence Hall of Fame
"After retirement it became widely known that Stubblebine during his active service had an interest in psychic warfare which had hopes to develop an army of soldiers with special powers, such as the ability to walk through walls."
"as a United States Army major general whose active duty career spanned 32 years. Beginning as an armor officer, he later transferred to intelligence. He is credited with redesigning the U.S. Army intelligence architecture during his time as commanding general of the U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM) from 1981 to 1984"
Stubblebine graduated from the United States Military Academy (Class of '52) and subsequently received a masters degree in chemical engineering from Columbia University
"As a colonel, Stubblebine participated in a special task force which defined the requirements of the U.S. Army for future conflict. By 1980, General Stubblebine commanded the Electronic Research and Development Command (ERADCOM)"
Stubblebine became a proponent of psychic warfare and initiated a project within the U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM), which he commanded from 1981 to 1984, to create "a breed of 'super soldier'" who would "have the ability to become invisible at will and to walk through walls". He attempted to walk through walls himself
(as we know..)
A key sponsor of the Stargate Project (a remote viewing project) at Fort Meade, Maryland, Stubblebine was convinced of the reality of a wide variety of psychic phenomena. He required that all of his battalion commanders learn how to bend spoons in the manner of celebrity psychic Uri Geller, and he himself attempted several psychic feats, in addition to walking through walls, such as levitation and dispersing distant clouds with his mind. Stubblebine was a key leader in the U.S. military invasion of Grenada (1983) and was, according to a report published by the Daily Mail, "at the heart of America's military machine" at that time.
"After some controversy involving the experiments with psychic phenomena, including alleged security violations from uncleared civilian psychics working in Sensitive Compartmented Information Facilities (SCIFs), Stubblebine took "early retirement" from the Army in 1984.[8] (This occurred after an incident at which Stubblebine offended Gen. John Adams Wickham, Jr. — then U.S. Army Chief of Staff — by offering to perform a spoon-bending feat at a formal gala. Wickham viewed such phenomena as associated with satanism"
He also acted as a part-time consultant to two government contractors, ERIM and Space Applications Corporation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Stubblebine
Founders of Natural Solutions Foundation (NSF)
President: Major General Albert (Bert) N. Stubblebine III
After his retirement he served as the VP for Intelligence Systems with BDM, a major defense contractor. He has brought these experiences to leading-edge medical research and development in collaboration with his wife Rima E. Laibow, M.D
+ Rima E. Laibow, M.D
(She has practiced drug-free, natural medicine for 35 years by seeking the underlying cause of every illness and ailment and treating that root cause.
She believes in using nutrients and other natural options to find, define and treat the problems which underlie degenerative, chronic diseases and poor aging while supporting the immune and other crucial systems. She has enjoyed remarkable success with a wide assortment of cataclysmic problems.)
Dr. Laibow is the Founding and past President of the NeuroTherapy Certification Board, which she helped establish, in order to strengthen and develop the field of NeuroBioFeedback and bring it into wide-spread use as a powerful, non-toxic tool for modern medicine.
http://drrimatruthreports.com/aboutus/founders/
Mõelda vaid kui sellised TIP sõjaväe liidrid, USA sõjaväe südamikku juhtivad, on tegelikult olemas?
Ehk siis: intelligence restructuring earned him his place in the Intelligence Hall of Fame
"After retirement it became widely known that Stubblebine during his active service had an interest in psychic warfare which had hopes to develop an army of soldiers with special powers, such as the ability to walk through walls."
"as a United States Army major general whose active duty career spanned 32 years. Beginning as an armor officer, he later transferred to intelligence. He is credited with redesigning the U.S. Army intelligence architecture during his time as commanding general of the U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM) from 1981 to 1984"
Stubblebine graduated from the United States Military Academy (Class of '52) and subsequently received a masters degree in chemical engineering from Columbia University
"As a colonel, Stubblebine participated in a special task force which defined the requirements of the U.S. Army for future conflict. By 1980, General Stubblebine commanded the Electronic Research and Development Command (ERADCOM)"
Stubblebine became a proponent of psychic warfare and initiated a project within the U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM), which he commanded from 1981 to 1984, to create "a breed of 'super soldier'" who would "have the ability to become invisible at will and to walk through walls". He attempted to walk through walls himself
(as we know..)
A key sponsor of the Stargate Project (a remote viewing project) at Fort Meade, Maryland, Stubblebine was convinced of the reality of a wide variety of psychic phenomena. He required that all of his battalion commanders learn how to bend spoons in the manner of celebrity psychic Uri Geller, and he himself attempted several psychic feats, in addition to walking through walls, such as levitation and dispersing distant clouds with his mind. Stubblebine was a key leader in the U.S. military invasion of Grenada (1983) and was, according to a report published by the Daily Mail, "at the heart of America's military machine" at that time.
"After some controversy involving the experiments with psychic phenomena, including alleged security violations from uncleared civilian psychics working in Sensitive Compartmented Information Facilities (SCIFs), Stubblebine took "early retirement" from the Army in 1984.[8] (This occurred after an incident at which Stubblebine offended Gen. John Adams Wickham, Jr. — then U.S. Army Chief of Staff — by offering to perform a spoon-bending feat at a formal gala. Wickham viewed such phenomena as associated with satanism"
He also acted as a part-time consultant to two government contractors, ERIM and Space Applications Corporation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Stubblebine
Founders of Natural Solutions Foundation (NSF)
President: Major General Albert (Bert) N. Stubblebine III
After his retirement he served as the VP for Intelligence Systems with BDM, a major defense contractor. He has brought these experiences to leading-edge medical research and development in collaboration with his wife Rima E. Laibow, M.D
+ Rima E. Laibow, M.D
(She has practiced drug-free, natural medicine for 35 years by seeking the underlying cause of every illness and ailment and treating that root cause.
She believes in using nutrients and other natural options to find, define and treat the problems which underlie degenerative, chronic diseases and poor aging while supporting the immune and other crucial systems. She has enjoyed remarkable success with a wide assortment of cataclysmic problems.)
Dr. Laibow is the Founding and past President of the NeuroTherapy Certification Board, which she helped establish, in order to strengthen and develop the field of NeuroBioFeedback and bring it into wide-spread use as a powerful, non-toxic tool for modern medicine.
http://drrimatruthreports.com/aboutus/founders/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Stubblebine
7 June 2017 21:30
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Sa ikka tead, miks vaja oli, et me õuna süüa vaja oli?
(vastus: selleks, et siia ilma pääseda ja siit ebavajalikud tulnuka tegevused kõige õigemal moel likvideerida)
(vastus: selleks, et siia ilma pääseda ja siit ebavajalikud tulnuka tegevused kõige õigemal moel likvideerida)
7 June 2017 21:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
7 June 2017 19:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vanem, rahvuslik mitte poliitiline Eesti tõsine töömees ütles selle rahvusliku lõigu peale "kamp idioote"
7 June 2017 19:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja siis programeeritakse võlts rahvuslaulupidusi kus noored kätega ryhmitades vehkima pantud, eesti südamelaulude saatel, nagu robotid, häbistades nii kultuuri kui loomingut, kes sellist asja sponsoreerib ja kas kultuuri norme siis ei ole, et kes selle koraldamist õpetama peaks, ja nende noorte lauljatega ka rääkima, et kas nad aru saavad mis agenda ohvriks nad langenud on
7 June 2017 19:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vähemasti Rahuslikud sõbrad .
7 June 2017 19:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
7 June 2017 19:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(ikka paneb mind mõtlema, mis sõna see nüüd oli, "moslemi" nagu sobiks aga.. kas see minu kultuuriline keelekasutus oleks selline..)
7 June 2017 19:02
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
(me)
7 June 2017 18:24
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ideaalsus on mu absoluutne miinimum
7 June 2017 18:24
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
vahest nendeks eri tasmeteks nimetatakse, halogrammi asjad, jne, seda kui erinevas meele vibratsioonis inimene me kõrval asuvaid muudel sagedustel asuvaid reaalsusi tajub ja suudab neid paraleelselt nö maise põhiliiniga omal arusaamas hoida,
kuigi, eks see suvalises kohas pea välja pistes nagu kiirteel olek oleks, tuhisedes infod jooksevad läbi aga milleks
milleks keegi mis infot tarbib ja kuidas aru saab, oma piiratust vaatevinklist, nagu see hea matemaatiku kirjutatud raamat, kui lugenud oled, millest värd topelt multika versioon tehti asja sopastamiseks.. kuid raamat ja alg 20 minutiline versioon on hea, mul peaagu YT konto kinni panti, sest seda koolis näidatavat õppevideot Youtiube lykkasin, siiamaani kirjad alles, kõikide muude videoteenuste kohtadega juhtus samamoodi.
mees kes ennast direktoriks nmimetas, filmi tegijaks, tal jäi veel äõigust üle ka
kuigi, eks see suvalises kohas pea välja pistes nagu kiirteel olek oleks, tuhisedes infod jooksevad läbi aga milleks
milleks keegi mis infot tarbib ja kuidas aru saab, oma piiratust vaatevinklist, nagu see hea matemaatiku kirjutatud raamat, kui lugenud oled, millest värd topelt multika versioon tehti asja sopastamiseks.. kuid raamat ja alg 20 minutiline versioon on hea, mul peaagu YT konto kinni panti, sest seda koolis näidatavat õppevideot Youtiube lykkasin, siiamaani kirjad alles, kõikide muude videoteenuste kohtadega juhtus samamoodi.
mees kes ennast direktoriks nmimetas, filmi tegijaks, tal jäi veel äõigust üle ka
7 June 2017 18:07
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
See hologrammi asi jah, seda oled aru saanud v mis moodi nad seda ette kujutavad, need kes veendunult seminare müüvad selliste õpetuse alal lausa?
Pole süübida jõudnud, ju neil ka mingi oma käsitlus, ega päris õhku ka nii edukalt ei müüdaks, siis oleks juba pettus ju ja saaks karistada, isegi kavalamad keele kaitse maagijad mis peale pantud, saab tarkuse ja aususega eemaldatud ja sisemust nähtud, kui asjaks läheb,
ootan kuni siin keegi seletama tuleb 5D s, mine tea mida õpetab! :P
Pole süübida jõudnud, ju neil ka mingi oma käsitlus, ega päris õhku ka nii edukalt ei müüdaks, siis oleks juba pettus ju ja saaks karistada, isegi kavalamad keele kaitse maagijad mis peale pantud, saab tarkuse ja aususega eemaldatud ja sisemust nähtud, kui asjaks läheb,
ootan kuni siin keegi seletama tuleb 5D s, mine tea mida õpetab! :P
7 June 2017 18:02
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Pole veendunud, kas tõismeeli Hull arvas, et headust või paremust pole olemas, või pani keegi teine siiralt segast (hullu), kuid neil muidugi kes sellises usus,
(kus alles õpitakse mis on headus)
vanematest ka veel lahti ühendatud (või siis vanemad vanevanematest.. ühesõnaga murdunud perepuu, surnud hinged, ette määratud hukule kui mõni naine neid omaks ei võta koos vajalikusega uute aega kaasa transportida, kuid eks suts häda ole nende tulnukatega kellel reaalseid vanemaid ei ole maalt võtta kogu puu ulatuses )
+ veel vaja märkida muud olulised hingetee tehingud, vereülekanded ja projektid, taimed ja ained isegi mängivad rolli, olenevalt mida keegi mõistis teha või ette näha
(kus alles õpitakse mis on headus)
vanematest ka veel lahti ühendatud (või siis vanemad vanevanematest.. ühesõnaga murdunud perepuu, surnud hinged, ette määratud hukule kui mõni naine neid omaks ei võta koos vajalikusega uute aega kaasa transportida, kuid eks suts häda ole nende tulnukatega kellel reaalseid vanemaid ei ole maalt võtta kogu puu ulatuses )
+ veel vaja märkida muud olulised hingetee tehingud, vereülekanded ja projektid, taimed ja ained isegi mängivad rolli, olenevalt mida keegi mõistis teha või ette näha
7 June 2017 18:00
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ilmselgelt, mingikord peab ju ikka olema, ja mille muu kui headuse põhjal põhikiri?
// et rääkides, et fännad ühte teooriat, sest nii lihtsam, olgugi, see püüe irooniale, nii jääb tões, sest nii just mõeldakse, et tehaksegi. Noorte silmis, kui vaadanud oled mida nende silmad massiliselt noil aegadel loevad.
>>> et siis kuigi, MINU süstem ei piirdu ainult ühe maakera'ga ehk siis ehitatud nii, et toimib ka ajast väljastpoolt arvesse võttes ja palju muud(...), nu minu enda soovides ja püüdlustes <<<
// et rääkides, et fännad ühte teooriat, sest nii lihtsam, olgugi, see püüe irooniale, nii jääb tões, sest nii just mõeldakse, et tehaksegi. Noorte silmis, kui vaadanud oled mida nende silmad massiliselt noil aegadel loevad.
>>> et siis kuigi, MINU süstem ei piirdu ainult ühe maakera'ga ehk siis ehitatud nii, et toimib ka ajast väljastpoolt arvesse võttes ja palju muud(...), nu minu enda soovides ja püüdlustes <<<
7 June 2017 17:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mulle nii meeldib, et sa küsid, saab kohe mulle endale ka selgemaks!
7 June 2017 17:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu vot, praegu ei tulnud miskit pähe, kuid siis lugedes see sõna vahele jätta ja vaadata kas lause ikka üldkontekstis arusaadav on,
(rätikud, on siis kultuuriline hüüdnimi rätikuid ümber pea kandva, kultuuri osas, linadeks võib neid kutsuda, kes lina seljas kannavad, kui neid on, .. lipsud on lipsud ja nu ... oot, linaseks..., kui linase riidest rääkida, võime ise ka olla, ei saa kõiki häid hüüdnimesi teistele jagada ainult! )
(rätikud, on siis kultuuriline hüüdnimi rätikuid ümber pea kandva, kultuuri osas, linadeks võib neid kutsuda, kes lina seljas kannavad, kui neid on, .. lipsud on lipsud ja nu ... oot, linaseks..., kui linase riidest rääkida, võime ise ka olla, ei saa kõiki häid hüüdnimesi teistele jagada ainult! )
7 June 2017 17:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oi see ilmselge kirjatrükkimise laiskus mul, mõtlen selle kohe välja mis see on, moment
7 June 2017 17:48
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Mina muidugi eelistan selliste asjade osas, kindlamaid teadmisi ja teste, selle piires mida teha saab. kuid ega ma vägivaldselt su usku teadmiseks, kuidas tegelikut on pöörama ei hakka senikaua kui see headust ei häiri
7 June 2017 17:43
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Andres,
Kas muidu inimesed NASA community's üldiselt ka nii ausad on:
" meeldib ümmargune rohkem...jään ümmarguse juurde. MIks? sest selest kogu aeg leiertatud ja läksin reklaami ohviriks. Samas keegi ei keela uskumast lapikut maad..aga siis raskem talle kuna süsteem on ülesehitatud ümarguse maa printsiibil. "
Või on see Eestlaste vabadus ainult ?
Kas muidu inimesed NASA community's üldiselt ka nii ausad on:
" meeldib ümmargune rohkem...jään ümmarguse juurde. MIks? sest selest kogu aeg leiertatud ja läksin reklaami ohviriks. Samas keegi ei keela uskumast lapikut maad..aga siis raskem talle kuna süsteem on ülesehitatud ümarguse maa printsiibil. "
Või on see Eestlaste vabadus ainult ?
7 June 2017 17:42
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
siit kus olen, jala sutsu minna sinna, kui mõnda portaali kinni ei jää, või noh, ega seda märkagi, astud ühte kohta ja olen järgmises, ja kes tähele ei pane ei märkagi, et jälle uues kohas,
ükskord Margus läinud koeraga nurmenukki majataha korjama ja siis tagasiteel hoopis kõrvalkülade metsast välja astunud. kuigi kodu oleks pidanud silmaga paistma, nu ma muidugi uinamuina ka, eksin sinna kuhu astun. Kuid kui minu asi saab olla lihtsalt lohakus arusaamise osas kust poolt paarisaja meetri kauguselt tulin, siis mõndade teiste meeste lood on sellised, et neid võõrastele isegi ei räägita. Ei teata kuulamgi. Kui siis mõni küla kohalik Legend.. mehest kes ennast välguga kümbles ja royaalse kahuriväepealike jutud..
kuid sa seda vist jälle naljaviluks jagasid, või mis ?
ükskord Margus läinud koeraga nurmenukki majataha korjama ja siis tagasiteel hoopis kõrvalkülade metsast välja astunud. kuigi kodu oleks pidanud silmaga paistma, nu ma muidugi uinamuina ka, eksin sinna kuhu astun. Kuid kui minu asi saab olla lihtsalt lohakus arusaamise osas kust poolt paarisaja meetri kauguselt tulin, siis mõndade teiste meeste lood on sellised, et neid võõrastele isegi ei räägita. Ei teata kuulamgi. Kui siis mõni küla kohalik Legend.. mehest kes ennast välguga kümbles ja royaalse kahuriväepealike jutud..
kuid sa seda vist jälle naljaviluks jagasid, või mis ?
7 June 2017 17:33
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov tean mu pere maade ligi see suht , on veel palju muud ka mis siit välja lekkinud selle kohta on kui vaimufooriumi fanaasiate vahelt õiged asjad märkad lugeda
7 June 2017 17:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei, rohekm ei kannata välja ,see Force TallinaTV s on liiga kõva, seda pool tundi järjest taulda on juba katsumus omaette, (kui samal ajal paraleelselt infot teada saad milleks seda kasutatakse ja mis asjad p ja mis milleks mõeldud on)
7 June 2017 16:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis nagu see ka mingi värviliste tulede taga sedasi lollutades tõstetakse kätt püsti ka karjas lauldakse
7 June 2017 16:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aa ei, vabarahva laulupeost räägiti,
kuid nende skeemid juba olid peenemad mida juhiti, ei tasu kommenteerimist
kuid nende skeemid juba olid peenemad mida juhiti, ei tasu kommenteerimist
7 June 2017 16:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Selliseid reaktsioone tuleb pidevalt kuihetkeks juhtub mingi kosmilise vingerduse kaudu TallinaTV d vaatama,
ja kes see iniseva häälega mees oli, tore, et võõrkeele oli ära õpppinud,
(kuigi reaalset tõlget sooviks näha, mida ta rääkis...)
sellise inina eest saaks mõnes külas pasunasse, pikema jututa,
baaris kindlasti
ja kes see iniseva häälega mees oli, tore, et võõrkeele oli ära õpppinud,
(kuigi reaalset tõlget sooviks näha, mida ta rääkis...)
sellise inina eest saaks mõnes külas pasunasse, pikema jututa,
baaris kindlasti
7 June 2017 16:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
järgmiseks on sinises ülikonnas dave benton, eetris,
not joking,
Esimeseks olid valges ülikondades ja ebapraktilistes ateljee kingades lindipealt võõramaa noote mängivad mehed kes üks teeskles et mängib synti ja teine et kitarri, synti ennast vist laulus polnutki mis lindilt tuli , vahepeal plaksutasid mõlemad, kuna laulus ka plakusutati mis lindilt tuli
not joking,
Esimeseks olid valges ülikondades ja ebapraktilistes ateljee kingades lindipealt võõramaa noote mängivad mehed kes üks teeskles et mängib synti ja teine et kitarri, synti ennast vist laulus polnutki mis lindilt tuli , vahepeal plaksutasid mõlemad, kuna laulus ka plakusutati mis lindilt tuli
7 June 2017 16:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
asja veel hullemaks tegemiseks,
neil suur punane viisnurk trummi peal,
nagu Türgi lipp esimese emotsioonina
neil suur punane viisnurk trummi peal,
nagu Türgi lipp esimese emotsioonina
7 June 2017 16:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mis janti nad sääl ajavad, kultuuri ministeeriumiga ikka nõu pidas keegi või on keskerakonnast omadele mingi roheline tee antud ?
7 June 2017 16:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nii juhtub, kui peale ei tee
7 June 2017 16:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja tõlkija ka.. loodan, et see peduiin seda ei kuule, kuidas ta eestikeelt iniseb,
ja sedasi saadet vaadates, võib mulje jätta, et TallinaTV välismaalaste silma läbi, promob eesti häbistamise agendat, näidates võltsi varastatud kitarrimängude punti (Karavani kest) võõraste viiside ja võltside mängudega ja siis sinna otsa nagu kodumaa ilusas looduse taustal need kultuurilised peduiinid näitavad reaalset laulimst ja mängu
mitte nagu need plastik petturid (jääb mulje IGALE natukenegi südame või ajuga inimesele kümnetest millionitest kes seda saate lõiku vaatavad tolles kultuuriruumis, sest ka meie vaatame ju palju kui meie omad välismaal käivad, vaat kui palju siis poliit tasemel promotud võõrmaa pealinnas olnud esinemist riikide võrgustik vaatab neil kodumaal, kes hästi suur, kantakse vb otse eetrisse neil telejaamaski edasi.,.. oh seda häda..)
ja sedasi saadet vaadates, võib mulje jätta, et TallinaTV välismaalaste silma läbi, promob eesti häbistamise agendat, näidates võltsi varastatud kitarrimängude punti (Karavani kest) võõraste viiside ja võltside mängudega ja siis sinna otsa nagu kodumaa ilusas looduse taustal need kultuurilised peduiinid näitavad reaalset laulimst ja mängu
mitte nagu need plastik petturid (jääb mulje IGALE natukenegi südame või ajuga inimesele kümnetest millionitest kes seda saate lõiku vaatavad tolles kultuuriruumis, sest ka meie vaatame ju palju kui meie omad välismaal käivad, vaat kui palju siis poliit tasemel promotud võõrmaa pealinnas olnud esinemist riikide võrgustik vaatab neil kodumaal, kes hästi suur, kantakse vb otse eetrisse neil telejaamaski edasi.,.. oh seda häda..)
7 June 2017 16:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
miski kultuurirahvas
7 June 2017 16:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Juba hilja, nüüüd räägivad mosvad rätikud seal
7 June 2017 16:23
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ei meeldi trellid ka Justamendile, trellid me veel likvideerime ükspäev, selleks palju plaane,
praegu aga kuna kurjuse energia elushoidmiseks on vaja vangimajasi, siis neid sääl hoitakse ja kaitstakse, et neid maha ei saaks lüüa ega ümber kasvatada... see kujruse kaitse organisatsioon suures osas, kuigi eks paljude hingesoppis siiralt algselt nad miskit muud inimlikult plaanisid... aga ei arvestanud jällegi vaimset ilma... et ega kurjust siis lukustada saa.. seda tuleb ravida... ja hea kui ta inimese kehasse nakatunud on ja kinni jäänud.. siis läbi selle inimese saab seda kabjameest tagajada kergemini... kui nad aga nagu potililled sinna istutada ja nuumata... ja lasta neil teisi veel endasugusteks konvertida... nu kuidas võimalik on, et tänapäeva psüholoogiliste ja taime, vaimuravimite info juures sellised asutused alles on... ?
Jah... raha... ka.. vahendina.. sest osade pättide hoidmine per person pidi kallim aastapeale olema kui Hawardi õpilase saatmine... eks siis paneb küsima kes maksab ja kes seda elus hoiab ja miks..
Eks ta üks paranähtus ole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNwYnQ-EnX4
praegu aga kuna kurjuse energia elushoidmiseks on vaja vangimajasi, siis neid sääl hoitakse ja kaitstakse, et neid maha ei saaks lüüa ega ümber kasvatada... see kujruse kaitse organisatsioon suures osas, kuigi eks paljude hingesoppis siiralt algselt nad miskit muud inimlikult plaanisid... aga ei arvestanud jällegi vaimset ilma... et ega kurjust siis lukustada saa.. seda tuleb ravida... ja hea kui ta inimese kehasse nakatunud on ja kinni jäänud.. siis läbi selle inimese saab seda kabjameest tagajada kergemini... kui nad aga nagu potililled sinna istutada ja nuumata... ja lasta neil teisi veel endasugusteks konvertida... nu kuidas võimalik on, et tänapäeva psüholoogiliste ja taime, vaimuravimite info juures sellised asutused alles on... ?
Jah... raha... ka.. vahendina.. sest osade pättide hoidmine per person pidi kallim aastapeale olema kui Hawardi õpilase saatmine... eks siis paneb küsima kes maksab ja kes seda elus hoiab ja miks..
Eks ta üks paranähtus ole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNwYnQ-EnX4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNwYnQ-EnX4
7 June 2017 13:26
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov enamus mis ütlesid on ka tõene, va. see, et mulle vandenõuteooriad meeldivad, mis neis meeldivat on?
Mulle meeldivad ploomid, kallistused, naise lõhn, paljajalu murul kõndida, puhanud ja värske rõõmsate silmadega ema, puumajad ja elus mõtteid toov toit,
Mulle meeldib politsei, luureagenturid, tuletõrje, leidurid ja kudujad, küpsetajad ja preesterid ning talumehed.
ja mulle meeldib justament ja sama mis talle meeldib.
https://youtu.be/tOTshuMiq-4?t=24
Mulle meeldivad ploomid, kallistused, naise lõhn, paljajalu murul kõndida, puhanud ja värske rõõmsate silmadega ema, puumajad ja elus mõtteid toov toit,
Mulle meeldib politsei, luureagenturid, tuletõrje, leidurid ja kudujad, küpsetajad ja preesterid ning talumehed.
ja mulle meeldib justament ja sama mis talle meeldib.
https://youtu.be/tOTshuMiq-4?t=24
https://youtu.be/tOTshuMiq-4?t=24
7 June 2017 13:21
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Nagu teavad ka noored:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EkBk9qnK50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EkBk9qnK50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EkBk9qnK50
7 June 2017 13:11
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kuid näe, inimesed kes Veenuselt, neamd ei asu vaidlema nii arusaadavatel teemadel
Muidugi kui iganes mitu meetreid tõendeid on .. see ei ole piisav nende jaoks, kes kommunistliku usu võtnud, selle piires mida kiip peas lubab mõelda, parimal juhul.
Samamoodi nagu selged tõendid kanepi jms asja osas olid meetrites, ja alles nüüd 50 aastat hiljem hakatakse legaliseerimisega tegelema, (kuigi, üritatakse sõda tekitada, selle nimel, et inimesed ei saaks vaimsele ja taimsele ligi, see on üks sõja ja kontrolli aluspinna olulisemaid nurgakivisi, ... raha on lihtsalt vahend ja tehnoloogia olulise peitmiseks... sest ega raha tulnukatele vaja pole..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NGmuhf88eM
(huumorina, milles on tõde, Eestitelevisioon, teab elementaarset ammu, ja teab kuidas mida serveerida, lubatud piires. )
Muidugi kui iganes mitu meetreid tõendeid on .. see ei ole piisav nende jaoks, kes kommunistliku usu võtnud, selle piires mida kiip peas lubab mõelda, parimal juhul.
Samamoodi nagu selged tõendid kanepi jms asja osas olid meetrites, ja alles nüüd 50 aastat hiljem hakatakse legaliseerimisega tegelema, (kuigi, üritatakse sõda tekitada, selle nimel, et inimesed ei saaks vaimsele ja taimsele ligi, see on üks sõja ja kontrolli aluspinna olulisemaid nurgakivisi, ... raha on lihtsalt vahend ja tehnoloogia olulise peitmiseks... sest ega raha tulnukatele vaja pole..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NGmuhf88eM
(huumorina, milles on tõde, Eestitelevisioon, teab elementaarset ammu, ja teab kuidas mida serveerida, lubatud piires. )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NGmuhf88eM
7 June 2017 13:03
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
7 June 2017 12:55
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Muide selle nime välja võtmisega, kogu nett kadus ära, ja pidime siin jurama jup aega, et nett tagasi saada, (ei nu ikka päris mitu minutit. hard resetti tegema pidime.. ja siis peale ühendust ka toimima ei hakanud... kuid meil kiired näpud ja omad kalad töötasid õnneks neti tagasi... eks nette ole palju õhus)
7 June 2017 12:54
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Viimane kes silma jäi, kuna sa Kulo NASA ga sina peal rohkem siis ehk isegi tead, et mis rahasi siis tema taga ajab ja kas tundub näojärgi ja resumeest valetatav lipitsetav poliitik olema, mida talle näkku julgeksid öelda :
Avaliku Resumee osake ainult:
"From 1982 to 1984, Alexander served in the U.S. Army Intelligence & Security Command (INSCOM) under General Albert Stubblebine. Reportedly, Alexander was one of Stubblebine's closest colleagues.[5] Alexander received a National Award for Volunteerism from Pres. Ronald Reagan in 1987, and the Aerospace Laureate Award from Aviation Week in 1993 and '94.
Following his retirement from the Army, Alexander served for several years as Program Manager for Non-Lethal Defense at Los Alamos National Laboratory. In this capacity, he conducted non-lethal warfare briefings at the highest levels of government, including the Executive Office of the President, the United States National Security Council, members of Congress, the Director of Central Intelligence and senior Department of Defense officials. In 2003, he served as a mentor to senior officials in the Afghan Ministry of Defense through the Office of Military Cooperation–Afghanistan. Beginning in 2005 and continuing for nearly a decade thereafter, he was a Senior Fellow in the Department of Strategic Studies at the Joint Special Operations University; during this period, the JSOU Press published several of his monographs on national security matters.
Alexander claims credit as the inventor of the non-lethal, incapacitating weapon "sticky foam" which was used with mixed results by U.S. Marines in Somalia in 1995.[6]
The Albuquerque Journal reported in March 1993 that "last year, Alexander organized a national conference devoted to researching 'reports of ritual abuse, near-death experiences, human contacts with extraterrestrial aliens and other so-called anomalous experiences
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Alexander
Avaliku Resumee osake ainult:
"From 1982 to 1984, Alexander served in the U.S. Army Intelligence & Security Command (INSCOM) under General Albert Stubblebine. Reportedly, Alexander was one of Stubblebine's closest colleagues.[5] Alexander received a National Award for Volunteerism from Pres. Ronald Reagan in 1987, and the Aerospace Laureate Award from Aviation Week in 1993 and '94.
Following his retirement from the Army, Alexander served for several years as Program Manager for Non-Lethal Defense at Los Alamos National Laboratory. In this capacity, he conducted non-lethal warfare briefings at the highest levels of government, including the Executive Office of the President, the United States National Security Council, members of Congress, the Director of Central Intelligence and senior Department of Defense officials. In 2003, he served as a mentor to senior officials in the Afghan Ministry of Defense through the Office of Military Cooperation–Afghanistan. Beginning in 2005 and continuing for nearly a decade thereafter, he was a Senior Fellow in the Department of Strategic Studies at the Joint Special Operations University; during this period, the JSOU Press published several of his monographs on national security matters.
Alexander claims credit as the inventor of the non-lethal, incapacitating weapon "sticky foam" which was used with mixed results by U.S. Marines in Somalia in 1995.[6]
The Albuquerque Journal reported in March 1993 that "last year, Alexander organized a national conference devoted to researching 'reports of ritual abuse, near-death experiences, human contacts with extraterrestrial aliens and other so-called anomalous experiences
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Alexander
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Alexander
7 June 2017 12:52
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Nu näed, ime pole, et NASA sellise maine endale saanud on, kui nad lubavad sellist juttu oma ridadesse, sa ikka päriselt NASA's Johnson Space Center tööl või najapärast käid sääl ?
Ei sa ei saa kokku leppida, et kaks punkti " .. " ja " .. " kaks punkti on kokku " . . . . . . " sest seda oskab ka hobune kokku arvutada, et on 4 punkti.
Ma lootsin midagi palju sügavamat sest alus oli suht tõepärane.
Kuid noh.. sa arvad, siis et Raha on see põhiline asi mis siin asju liigutab ja raha nimel kes iganes mida iganes valetab ja teeb?
Ei tasu ka arvata, et kõik meie endi moodi mõtlevad va juhul kui me enda mõtlemine suht ideaalne ja tark on, siis veel sünnib arvata, et teised ka arvavtvasti sisemuses sedasi ikka arvavad ja aru saavad.
Nagu ma ikka loodan.
Ja veel arvata, et see IGA asja kohta kehtib... nu anna olla..
Muide ma inimene, kes matemaatikasse ei usu ja ei arvanud kunagi, et pean matemaatikat kaitsma hakkama.
Sest loodus jah, ei toimi sedasi, et võrdsed suurused täpselt ettemääratletud suuruse omavahel toodavad.
Lihtsamaks näiteks võib võtta rasestumised
Ei sa ei saa kokku leppida, et kaks punkti " .. " ja " .. " kaks punkti on kokku " . . . . . . " sest seda oskab ka hobune kokku arvutada, et on 4 punkti.
Ma lootsin midagi palju sügavamat sest alus oli suht tõepärane.
Kuid noh.. sa arvad, siis et Raha on see põhiline asi mis siin asju liigutab ja raha nimel kes iganes mida iganes valetab ja teeb?
Ei tasu ka arvata, et kõik meie endi moodi mõtlevad va juhul kui me enda mõtlemine suht ideaalne ja tark on, siis veel sünnib arvata, et teised ka arvavtvasti sisemuses sedasi ikka arvavad ja aru saavad.
Nagu ma ikka loodan.
Ja veel arvata, et see IGA asja kohta kehtib... nu anna olla..
Muide ma inimene, kes matemaatikasse ei usu ja ei arvanud kunagi, et pean matemaatikat kaitsma hakkama.
Sest loodus jah, ei toimi sedasi, et võrdsed suurused täpselt ettemääratletud suuruse omavahel toodavad.
Lihtsamaks näiteks võib võtta rasestumised
7 June 2017 12:52
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Andres Kullo nu näed, Sinul vähemalt asjalik, adekvaatne, arusaadav ja tõepärane seletus on sellele.
Aga mis sõjaväelaste ja nende vabandus on kes raha sellega ei saa võita küll aga on kaotada palju nii töökoha kui austuse osas?
Aga mis sõjaväelaste ja nende vabandus on kes raha sellega ei saa võita küll aga on kaotada palju nii töökoha kui austuse osas?
7 June 2017 12:25
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Se kas Sina mingeid asju naljana kasutad ei oma mingit seost sellega kas need lood reaalsed või ebausaldusväärsed on.
Sa võisid ju naljana mõelda seda, kuid mis arvad, kas need kellest seal loos juttu, ka seda naljana võtsid kui seda ütlesid nad v? Ja kui meelega kõrgetel kohtadel naljatada lubatakse, siis miks Nad sellist nalja endale lubasid? Mis poliitika selle taga on? Isegi ilma tulnukateta, kas see vähe huvitav?
Kuna Sa pole suvatsenud isegi loo tausta uurida, (ja ma pole isegi sinna lehele veel läinud nägemaks kuidas nad seda kajastanud on) siis kuidas Sa üldse tead mida jagad, suvaliselt või ?
Ja miks sa ENDISELT vastad millegile muule, mis asjasse ei puutu.
mitme küsimuse asemel,
Veider, et asutused mis maaväliste jõududega kõige enam seotud nagu kommunism, müürlased, kes otseselt ja teadlased (osad), haritlased (osad) jms buffrina, keelduvad kõige enam sellistel teemadel rääkimast, osadel lausa keeld pandud avalikuks debatiks,
Sa võisid ju naljana mõelda seda, kuid mis arvad, kas need kellest seal loos juttu, ka seda naljana võtsid kui seda ütlesid nad v? Ja kui meelega kõrgetel kohtadel naljatada lubatakse, siis miks Nad sellist nalja endale lubasid? Mis poliitika selle taga on? Isegi ilma tulnukateta, kas see vähe huvitav?
Kuna Sa pole suvatsenud isegi loo tausta uurida, (ja ma pole isegi sinna lehele veel läinud nägemaks kuidas nad seda kajastanud on) siis kuidas Sa üldse tead mida jagad, suvaliselt või ?
Ja miks sa ENDISELT vastad millegile muule, mis asjasse ei puutu.
mitme küsimuse asemel,
Veider, et asutused mis maaväliste jõududega kõige enam seotud nagu kommunism, müürlased, kes otseselt ja teadlased (osad), haritlased (osad) jms buffrina, keelduvad kõige enam sellistel teemadel rääkimast, osadel lausa keeld pandud avalikuks debatiks,
7 June 2017 12:22
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Räägi praktiliselt asjast ka nüüüd, mida sa siin põikled ja puiled nagu tüdrukuke.
ühesõünaga, kui adekvaatsetel kohtadel hinnatud inimesed, kes sadu millioneid investeerinud uuringutesse, tippudega igas sõjaväe ja luure osakonnas suhelnud.. et kui nemad sinule ütleva,d et "Nii on"
siis sina oma tarkusega, elu24 sygavuste uuringutega,saad öelda, et tegu on hullu või lolli inimesega kes lihtsalt lampi usub miskit, ja sinu tarkus, mis põhineb mitte mingisugusel uuringul ega julgusel arusaada nii piiblist kui muudest aegruumidest, et sinu tarkus on siis tema omast vaieldamatult üle ?
Mittte, et kõike tarku uskuma peaks...
aga mis oleks see argument, see vastus, see küsimus, see Tarkus millega siis seda tarka "napolioni" testiksid?
Mida Sa talle vastu paneksid,
et nagu ajaloo kanalis ja koolis ei räägitud Sulle, seega ta eksib v..või kuna sa ise ei usu, siis selles piisab v.. see huvitav teada on
ühesõünaga, kui adekvaatsetel kohtadel hinnatud inimesed, kes sadu millioneid investeerinud uuringutesse, tippudega igas sõjaväe ja luure osakonnas suhelnud.. et kui nemad sinule ütleva,d et "Nii on"
siis sina oma tarkusega, elu24 sygavuste uuringutega,saad öelda, et tegu on hullu või lolli inimesega kes lihtsalt lampi usub miskit, ja sinu tarkus, mis põhineb mitte mingisugusel uuringul ega julgusel arusaada nii piiblist kui muudest aegruumidest, et sinu tarkus on siis tema omast vaieldamatult üle ?
Mittte, et kõike tarku uskuma peaks...
aga mis oleks see argument, see vastus, see küsimus, see Tarkus millega siis seda tarka "napolioni" testiksid?
Mida Sa talle vastu paneksid,
et nagu ajaloo kanalis ja koolis ei räägitud Sulle, seega ta eksib v..või kuna sa ise ei usu, siis selles piisab v.. see huvitav teada on
7 June 2017 10:52
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
see napolioni asi siia ei puut uasjasse, miks Sa veendunult hullumeelsena klappe endal peas hoiad ja pimesi nurka edasi vahid?
Ma ei räägi OMA uskumustest,
ma räägin, et mida TEAVAD, milles on VEENDUNUD, ja mida USUVAD (sest nad on uurinud ja tõsiselt tööd sellel alal teinud) erinevad maailma uhtivad tegelased, sõjaväe kui tehnoloogia tippudest, .... kui paljudest neist kes usuvad, et nad on napolionid sul hinnatud sõjaväelaste või tehnika gurudena maailma asju reaalselt ajavad?
Ma räägin REAALSETEST, haritud, austatud inimestest, kes REAALSELT suuremaid asju ajavad maailmas, kui enamus inimesi keda me elus kohtame.
Nendest räägin ma, mitte mingitest "napolionidest"
ei sobi sulle ei sõjaväelased kes hinnatud, ei teadlased ega muusikud, kirjanikud ega arstid ?
Ei ausad poliitikud ega ... küsimnus oli sinu hullumeelsuses., et mis Su piir on, et Sa alles siis uskuma hakkad kui ETV asja näitab?
Või siis kui ema räägib? Või siis kui õuele maanduma peaksid nad ja sul üle puupaku kõhuli käsivad visata... ja nu kuna sa siis pole joont pidanud mida uskuda ja mis liigile alluda tasub või ei tasu.. siis marslase (pigem roomlase) loomusena, kes alluvad aotomaatselt absoluutsele tugevaimale, austusega.,.. siis jah, võivad tagajärjed kurvad olla
Ma ei räägi OMA uskumustest,
ma räägin, et mida TEAVAD, milles on VEENDUNUD, ja mida USUVAD (sest nad on uurinud ja tõsiselt tööd sellel alal teinud) erinevad maailma uhtivad tegelased, sõjaväe kui tehnoloogia tippudest, .... kui paljudest neist kes usuvad, et nad on napolionid sul hinnatud sõjaväelaste või tehnika gurudena maailma asju reaalselt ajavad?
Ma räägin REAALSETEST, haritud, austatud inimestest, kes REAALSELT suuremaid asju ajavad maailmas, kui enamus inimesi keda me elus kohtame.
Nendest räägin ma, mitte mingitest "napolionidest"
ei sobi sulle ei sõjaväelased kes hinnatud, ei teadlased ega muusikud, kirjanikud ega arstid ?
Ei ausad poliitikud ega ... küsimnus oli sinu hullumeelsuses., et mis Su piir on, et Sa alles siis uskuma hakkad kui ETV asja näitab?
Või siis kui ema räägib? Või siis kui õuele maanduma peaksid nad ja sul üle puupaku kõhuli käsivad visata... ja nu kuna sa siis pole joont pidanud mida uskuda ja mis liigile alluda tasub või ei tasu.. siis marslase (pigem roomlase) loomusena, kes alluvad aotomaatselt absoluutsele tugevaimale, austusega.,.. siis jah, võivad tagajärjed kurvad olla
7 June 2017 10:48
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ühesõnaga kes peab siis olema Sinule see inimene, lipsumees või kes iganes, kelle juttu sa usuksid, kelle jutupeale mõtleksid,
ei piisa, et suurte haridustega, ühiskonnas hinnatud inimesed, suurte rahadega (mida segase peaga eriti palju kokku ei aja, eriti tehnoloogisa vallas.... raha osas trumbi sugustel muidugi eelis, neil varjutagused jõud kes teemat ajavad ja tema eest neid asju ajavad mille väline kujund ja vimpel ta on, sest esiteks keegi ju peab olema ja kui on see kes on sellise diiliga nõus, et saab miljokat mängida.. ja oskab näidelda ka nagu ta tõsieluteleseriaalide näitlejana oskab.. siis miks mitte... olek tal piisavalt kentsakas , et müüb)
ei piisa, et suurte haridustega, ühiskonnas hinnatud inimesed, suurte rahadega (mida segase peaga eriti palju kokku ei aja, eriti tehnoloogisa vallas.... raha osas trumbi sugustel muidugi eelis, neil varjutagused jõud kes teemat ajavad ja tema eest neid asju ajavad mille väline kujund ja vimpel ta on, sest esiteks keegi ju peab olema ja kui on see kes on sellise diiliga nõus, et saab miljokat mängida.. ja oskab näidelda ka nagu ta tõsieluteleseriaalide näitlejana oskab.. siis miks mitte... olek tal piisavalt kentsakas , et müüb)
7 June 2017 10:41
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
energeetiliselt muidugi isenesest juba loole "väärinformatsioon" külge jäääb tundub, kui see sopaajakirja panna., Kuid samas, teisipidi vaadates, sopakad on just need, ainukesed, läbi kelle omakorda avalikuseni turvaliselt sellised lood jõuavad, mis muidu inimeste teadvusesse ei jõuaksi... siin topelt mäng käib...
sest keegi elu24 ja TheSun i jms ründama ju ei hakka MIDAIGANES nad kirjutavad, kui nad just otseselt praktilisele tegevusele kedagi ei kutsu... koos juhtnööridega...
seega nad saavad lekitada sopa sees mida iganes ja kui tulevad mehed mundris oma marki tegema, et miks riikliku saladusi lekitati, siis nad jäävad süüta uskudes, nende muu resumee arvelt, et see järjekordne imetud lugu nende oma reporterite poolt on, kellel tööks mida iganes netist üles otsida ja edasi kajastada reklaamide tarvis... et siis kogematta jõusdis minig info ka sinna.. mis teha mis teha...
nii see elu käib, asjade mitu külge, mitu funktsiooni.,
Muidugi see tehnoloogia ehk.. ehk saan rahastust mis kogu selle probleemi lahendaks.. eks näis.. ehk piisabv mul sellest kõvasti mõtlemisest.. .. mingid alged juba kuskilt tekkisid ja loodi... ehk ma ei peagi ise neid tegema, vaid piisab sõnumi kättesaamises,t edasi uskumisest ja siis need kes adekvaatsemad, neile see info edasi jõuab ja kodeerivad valmis... asja mis kogu maailma uudiste mure ära lahendaks
sest keegi elu24 ja TheSun i jms ründama ju ei hakka MIDAIGANES nad kirjutavad, kui nad just otseselt praktilisele tegevusele kedagi ei kutsu... koos juhtnööridega...
seega nad saavad lekitada sopa sees mida iganes ja kui tulevad mehed mundris oma marki tegema, et miks riikliku saladusi lekitati, siis nad jäävad süüta uskudes, nende muu resumee arvelt, et see järjekordne imetud lugu nende oma reporterite poolt on, kellel tööks mida iganes netist üles otsida ja edasi kajastada reklaamide tarvis... et siis kogematta jõusdis minig info ka sinna.. mis teha mis teha...
nii see elu käib, asjade mitu külge, mitu funktsiooni.,
Muidugi see tehnoloogia ehk.. ehk saan rahastust mis kogu selle probleemi lahendaks.. eks näis.. ehk piisabv mul sellest kõvasti mõtlemisest.. .. mingid alged juba kuskilt tekkisid ja loodi... ehk ma ei peagi ise neid tegema, vaid piisab sõnumi kättesaamises,t edasi uskumisest ja siis need kes adekvaatsemad, neile see info edasi jõuab ja kodeerivad valmis... asja mis kogu maailma uudiste mure ära lahendaks
7 June 2017 10:38
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Raimund raimund... mis ta selle elu24 kommentaari all ehk mõtles, et SEE pole ALG SOURCE...
Ega selleks peab ju loogika puudus päris suur olema, arusaamaks mitte, peale ühekordset seletust,
et kui on mingi juhtum X
ja siis on ültuntud pläraajakiri kes pastakast lugusi imeb B
ja siis B paneb oma lehe täitmiseks, loo X oma lehele,
ega see siis kuidagi X i olemust ei kõiguta ega fakte,
muude inimeste peas kui nende,
kes ei viitsi Alg Allikat üles otsida, muude kui nende peas, kes usuvad elu24 kui algallikana, muude kui nende kes aru ei saa kuidas lugusi "maetakse" ja neilt usutavust eeemaldatakse (nimelt meelega hoitakse töös tulnarite jms kommarite poolt plära ajakirju, ja kui vaja mingile loole halba mainet on, et seda ei usutaks, siis see lugu pannakse sinna lehte... see nii elementaarne tehnoloogia, selleks pole rohkem kui 7 klassi vaja, et arusaada). Ja mul on vähemalt 7 pool.
Seega asi väga lihtsalt arusaadev.
Samamoodi kommunistid teevad muude teiste silmis väärarengulistega, kelle külge inimesi ja tutvusi kleebitakse, et siis nende väärtust kõigutada nende silmis kes ei suvatse rohkem kui paar astet laiali ja sügavale sidemeid ja juhtumeid läbi mõelda enne oma peas arvamusele tulemist (korra kui adekvaatselt oled algstrutuuri selgemaks saanud, siis see automaatselt käib, samamoodi nagu sa tead igakord, et lumi on külm, ilma, et seda katsuma peaksid ... kuigi kindluse mõttes ikka aegajalt katsud ja katsuda vaja...)
Ega selleks peab ju loogika puudus päris suur olema, arusaamaks mitte, peale ühekordset seletust,
et kui on mingi juhtum X
ja siis on ültuntud pläraajakiri kes pastakast lugusi imeb B
ja siis B paneb oma lehe täitmiseks, loo X oma lehele,
ega see siis kuidagi X i olemust ei kõiguta ega fakte,
muude inimeste peas kui nende,
kes ei viitsi Alg Allikat üles otsida, muude kui nende peas, kes usuvad elu24 kui algallikana, muude kui nende kes aru ei saa kuidas lugusi "maetakse" ja neilt usutavust eeemaldatakse (nimelt meelega hoitakse töös tulnarite jms kommarite poolt plära ajakirju, ja kui vaja mingile loole halba mainet on, et seda ei usutaks, siis see lugu pannakse sinna lehte... see nii elementaarne tehnoloogia, selleks pole rohkem kui 7 klassi vaja, et arusaada). Ja mul on vähemalt 7 pool.
Seega asi väga lihtsalt arusaadev.
Samamoodi kommunistid teevad muude teiste silmis väärarengulistega, kelle külge inimesi ja tutvusi kleebitakse, et siis nende väärtust kõigutada nende silmis kes ei suvatse rohkem kui paar astet laiali ja sügavale sidemeid ja juhtumeid läbi mõelda enne oma peas arvamusele tulemist (korra kui adekvaatselt oled algstrutuuri selgemaks saanud, siis see automaatselt käib, samamoodi nagu sa tead igakord, et lumi on külm, ilma, et seda katsuma peaksid ... kuigi kindluse mõttes ikka aegajalt katsud ja katsuda vaja...)
7 June 2017 10:33
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja ausalt, isiklikult mulle enamaltjaolt on Su vastused meeldivalt muhelema pannud, alguses võtsin ka esimese hooga tõsisemalt, nüüd lihtsalt ootan huviga, kuhumaani välja jõuad ja õnneks ise linke postitad mida ma ise nii kärmelt ei teeks.. seega see tore,
kuid korra veel jah, see polnud see link millest rääkisin (kui seda selles mõttes postitasid)
Mis järgmine kõige tõesem postitus tundub olema, mis silma on jäänud selle osas, mis mõtlema paneb... et
"kui tema juba nii räägib.. siis miks..."
nii reporter oli tõsine kes seda linti võttis,
nii saade kes seda edastas oli tõsine
nii maa poliitiliselt kui ka see telekanal oli tõsine ja usaldusväärselt hinnatud üle ilma,
kui ka eelkõige inimene ise, kes enda sõnul on rohkem kui keegi teine raha kogu selle fenomeny uuringule investeerinud, lisaks sellele, et ta vanematel kogemusi ja lähedalt nägemisi olnud.
kuid korra veel jah, see polnud see link millest rääkisin (kui seda selles mõttes postitasid)
Mis järgmine kõige tõesem postitus tundub olema, mis silma on jäänud selle osas, mis mõtlema paneb... et
"kui tema juba nii räägib.. siis miks..."
nii reporter oli tõsine kes seda linti võttis,
nii saade kes seda edastas oli tõsine
nii maa poliitiliselt kui ka see telekanal oli tõsine ja usaldusväärselt hinnatud üle ilma,
kui ka eelkõige inimene ise, kes enda sõnul on rohkem kui keegi teine raha kogu selle fenomeny uuringule investeerinud, lisaks sellele, et ta vanematel kogemusi ja lähedalt nägemisi olnud.
7 June 2017 09:51
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov
Kuid tõega on sedasi.. et mida iganes Sa vastad, mis iganes põhjustel, see lisab kogu asjale ainult väärtust juurde.
Seega ära tegelikult muretse ja siiralt jätka samas suunas, küll me kõik kuiidagimoodi kohale jõuame kuhu vaja.
Loodan, et Sa ei pahanda, et Sind selleks milleks vaja kasutan, kasutan seda mis/kes käepärast...
Mis aga luuludesse puutub, siis mismoodi mu algne postitus luuludega seotud oli?
See artikkel mida pakkusid, polnud see mida silmaspidasin, kuigi selle loo sisu ka tuttav ammu, seda vene televisiooniski aastaid tagasi ketratud, miskid vene ametnikud ise sõjaväe positsioonilt asja tõdesid, või olid need usa omad... vana lugu, pole täpselt meeles, kuid ju nad mõlemad (ja ju mõlemal saab ka olla tehnoloogiaid mis midagi sellist vast teeb, lihtsamal tasemel)
Kuid tõega on sedasi.. et mida iganes Sa vastad, mis iganes põhjustel, see lisab kogu asjale ainult väärtust juurde.
Seega ära tegelikult muretse ja siiralt jätka samas suunas, küll me kõik kuiidagimoodi kohale jõuame kuhu vaja.
Loodan, et Sa ei pahanda, et Sind selleks milleks vaja kasutan, kasutan seda mis/kes käepärast...
Mis aga luuludesse puutub, siis mismoodi mu algne postitus luuludega seotud oli?
See artikkel mida pakkusid, polnud see mida silmaspidasin, kuigi selle loo sisu ka tuttav ammu, seda vene televisiooniski aastaid tagasi ketratud, miskid vene ametnikud ise sõjaväe positsioonilt asja tõdesid, või olid need usa omad... vana lugu, pole täpselt meeles, kuid ju nad mõlemad (ja ju mõlemal saab ka olla tehnoloogiaid mis midagi sellist vast teeb, lihtsamal tasemel)
7 June 2017 09:45
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Sander Viirma polegi isegi vaja nii kramilt, kuigi, kuna vastas, et ta Marslane.. ega siis soovitus tõepoolest asjakohane, sest ükskõik kui palju osad tulnukaliigid proovivad, ennast kasvõi sepaks või maameheks maskeerides, neil jääb ikkagi see põhipoint arusaamatuks, miks nad maal on ja see rahulolematus uuesti nagu puhastamatta bakter uuesti ajaloos esile tuleb... seega jah, geeni puhastus, pealeseda kui tehtud mis tehtud tundus vaja olema, võib asjakohane soovitus suures plaanis olla
7 June 2017 09:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
most people here wonder, was entire USA taken over actually by FSB (Russia) ?
Last thing anyone would tel it in near 50 years, if that did happen...
Maybe it really was, last elections.. all other man will be selected..
Last thing anyone would tel it in near 50 years, if that did happen...
Maybe it really was, last elections.. all other man will be selected..
7 June 2017 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
we not talking about "attack"
but whole country ideology manipulation,
but then again, this agencies now are not considered as "FSB (Russia)" anyway
but whole country ideology manipulation,
but then again, this agencies now are not considered as "FSB (Russia)" anyway
7 June 2017 02:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Psychic Energy and Lightworking--Unite in Peace
for other people i can say "well .. all that is needed.. for what You really want..."
i is just happening, pre game.. so this can come what You need...
bu for my self it is like: Yaaah, but what about now ?7 June 2017 01:32
Margus Meigo commented on Dana Lang's post.
Group: Psychic Energy and Lightworking--Unite in Peace
Perfect7 June 2017 01:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Psychic Energy and Lightworking--Unite in Peace
or maybe is a group of geniuses in here, as nearly all got 47 June 2017 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on Tamyra Keller's post.
Group: Psychic Energy and Lightworking--Unite in Peace
not sure how this test works, but i choose "sometimes i know " But result still come like that:
"Level 4: The Connection to Universal Wisdom"
"You have the connection to the universal wisdom! This type of of intuition is rare, profound and in high demand in this crazy age! It's often activated during deep meditation or advanced awareness practices but for you it comes naturally. It's the highest level of intuition that humans can reach while in physical form and allows us to access the realm of all things and to become consciously aware of our connection to and ability to create. This means that when you truly want or need something, you easily attract it to yourself. You know better than the rest of us on a deep intuitive level that we all have the power within us to change and heal our lives if we so choose!"
// ironic thing is that i for a past 5 years have limbo between homeless and loneliness.. and newer got my billions running on ideas that flow on me and that i wanted to activate... how then all the things come to me... (or maybe "what i need" part ? )
Living in snow country, mostly out of home, with out money for some yes seems luck, but also it has not been full paradise in all the time.. meaning, these moments when i feel i want to hold someone and there is no one to hold.. for years...7 June 2017 01:23
Margus Meigo commented on Laura Reed's post.
Group: Psychic Energy and Lightworking--Unite in Peace
not sure how this test works, but i choose "sometimes i know " But result still come like that:
"Level 4: The Connection to Universal Wisdom"
"You have the connection to the universal wisdom! This type of of intuition is rare, profound and in high demand in this crazy age! It's often activated during deep meditation or advanced awareness practices but for you it comes naturally. It's the highest level of intuition that humans can reach while in physical form and allows us to access the realm of all things and to become consciously aware of our connection to and ability to create. This means that when you truly want or need something, you easily attract it to yourself. You know better than the rest of us on a deep intuitive level that we all have the power within us to change and heal our lives if we so choose!"
// ironic thing is that i for a past 5 years have limbo between homeless and loneliness.. and newer got my billions running on ideas that flow on me and that i wanted to activate... how then all the things come to me... (or maybe "what i need" part ? )
Living in snow country, mostly out of home, with out money for some yes seems luck, but also it has not been full paradise in all the time.. meaning, these moments when i feel i want to hold someone and there is no one to hold.. for years...7 June 2017 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to Debosophy Fairstrehadd's comment.
Group: Psychic Energy and Lightworking--Unite in Peace
Feeling come, when i saw You 2, that You a bit like Alison Moyet in some soul level.. how you feel?
Can You two be a good friends on this time frame she was in ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPpHLK4SHt8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPpHLK4SHt8
6 June 2017 23:11
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Kütt's comment.
Mõnus mühakas arglikust liberaalist jobi oled ikka küll (23.06 käitumise põhjal),
väga harva sedasi solvanud kedagi, pedost Joel Steinfeld vast erand.
Küsid pabereid, linke, tõendeid ja asju ja siis kui keegi annab Sulle selle, siis nagu tita teeskled võlts viisakust ja siis kiirelt blokeerid teist solvates , et vastata ei saaks, (süüdistades teist veel "vaidlemise soovis" mis kohe KINLDASTI ei ole tõsi, see käitumine minule väga solvav ja võtan isiklikult, ja veel riigi esi IT tööline, veel..))
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sinusugused oma ebainimlikusega suruvad tegelikult teistele peale oma kinnist arvamust oma olekuga, mis ei ole võimeline isegi normaalse sõbralikuse tasemel ühte või teist muust maailmast arutada kui see mis ette kirjutatud on.
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Ei nu sellega me ammu leppinud, et suuremal osal inimesel, on "mõnevõrra" erinev arusaam, meie töö on see ühiskond ravida ja neile võimalus anda arusaamiseks, seda nimetatakse hoolimiseks,
see on meie töö, uskumus ja arusaam, et kõik te olete võõrt ja vajalikud, kuid ka ohtlikud kui ignoreerite olulisi reaalsusi.. ja senikaua kui teie alateadvusesse mingi info kild on süstitud korra läbi emotsiooni, siis on lootus, et seda enam niinaljalt ei saa ära pühikida ja see esile tuleb olukorras kus vaja.
Kuna inimaju esimese seletuse ja sarnasema arusaama leiab arusaamatus olukorras, seega oleks ebaaus, seda mitte anda, juhuks kui Sul seda polnud, siis nüüd on.
Me tegeleme mitmes ajas korraga, ka segane kirjakeel on osa tööst, mis alguses õnnetuseks kaelas, kuid ka õnnistuseks, sest nagu see laul siin ütleb.. nad nii selgesti ka kõigest aru ei saa, sest südame tehnoloogia, on inimeste oma.
Tänud, muidu, et vestlusesse üldse astusid ja osa võtad, enamus seda ei soovi teha. Kuna nad ei suuda mõelda, ega aru saada, et igakord kui nad onaneerivatki, see on näha VÄGA mitmes kanalis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaa-_-aC0uc
me, IluMina töötame ka palju läbi muusika ja emotsioonide, mälestuste ja kodulõhnade.,
Põhiline agenda on, et lapsed ja vanemad jääksid kokku,
Kui sul see viimane asi on nii ülesse kui alla poole generatsiooni suht paigas, siis kõige olulisem on paigas, ja ma täitsa tava, "normaal" teemadel võime edasi suhelda, ilma, et seda mida ei näe, peaks teemaks tooma
väga harva sedasi solvanud kedagi, pedost Joel Steinfeld vast erand.
Küsid pabereid, linke, tõendeid ja asju ja siis kui keegi annab Sulle selle, siis nagu tita teeskled võlts viisakust ja siis kiirelt blokeerid teist solvates , et vastata ei saaks, (süüdistades teist veel "vaidlemise soovis" mis kohe KINLDASTI ei ole tõsi, see käitumine minule väga solvav ja võtan isiklikult, ja veel riigi esi IT tööline, veel..))
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sinusugused oma ebainimlikusega suruvad tegelikult teistele peale oma kinnist arvamust oma olekuga, mis ei ole võimeline isegi normaalse sõbralikuse tasemel ühte või teist muust maailmast arutada kui see mis ette kirjutatud on.
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Ei nu sellega me ammu leppinud, et suuremal osal inimesel, on "mõnevõrra" erinev arusaam, meie töö on see ühiskond ravida ja neile võimalus anda arusaamiseks, seda nimetatakse hoolimiseks,
see on meie töö, uskumus ja arusaam, et kõik te olete võõrt ja vajalikud, kuid ka ohtlikud kui ignoreerite olulisi reaalsusi.. ja senikaua kui teie alateadvusesse mingi info kild on süstitud korra läbi emotsiooni, siis on lootus, et seda enam niinaljalt ei saa ära pühikida ja see esile tuleb olukorras kus vaja.
Kuna inimaju esimese seletuse ja sarnasema arusaama leiab arusaamatus olukorras, seega oleks ebaaus, seda mitte anda, juhuks kui Sul seda polnud, siis nüüd on.
Me tegeleme mitmes ajas korraga, ka segane kirjakeel on osa tööst, mis alguses õnnetuseks kaelas, kuid ka õnnistuseks, sest nagu see laul siin ütleb.. nad nii selgesti ka kõigest aru ei saa, sest südame tehnoloogia, on inimeste oma.
Tänud, muidu, et vestlusesse üldse astusid ja osa võtad, enamus seda ei soovi teha. Kuna nad ei suuda mõelda, ega aru saada, et igakord kui nad onaneerivatki, see on näha VÄGA mitmes kanalis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaa-_-aC0uc
me, IluMina töötame ka palju läbi muusika ja emotsioonide, mälestuste ja kodulõhnade.,
Põhiline agenda on, et lapsed ja vanemad jääksid kokku,
Kui sul see viimane asi on nii ülesse kui alla poole generatsiooni suht paigas, siis kõige olulisem on paigas, ja ma täitsa tava, "normaal" teemadel võime edasi suhelda, ilma, et seda mida ei näe, peaks teemaks tooma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaa-_-aC0uc
6 June 2017 22:40
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Kütt's comment.
kuid jah, see päeva nali küll, et näe kommunistid (kui uskuda, et me ainult inimesed )
saavad ilma igasuguse mureta teadlaste peade kontrollimisega hakkama
relgioonid, saavad ilma igasuguse mureta olenevalt kohast ja perioodist, enamuste teadlaste peade kontrollimisega hakkama kui vaja.... naised saavad enamuste teadlaste pea kontrollimisega hakkama kui vaja jne..
aga näe, multidimensionaalsed olendid ja olendid kes meie liigi arendamisel kaasa löönud enne seda kui me teatsime mis areng on, näe nemad ei peaks saama sellega hakkama,
muidugi veel arhiivid ka.. :D
Me ei saa isegi endale lubatud teise maailma sõja lihtsaid hitleri lugusi avalikustatud arhiividest, ja siis kujutame ette, et siin info mis kogu maakera olemasolu ja arengu paljude arvates peapeale pööraks, et see info lihtsalt mingi mida koguma hakatakse arhiividesse...
selleks et "ebavajalikku" infot likvideerida, on ka teadus suures osas abiks, sest see ju õpetab, et kõik mis viirastub ja kõik mis ainult korra tundub ja mida uuesti esile kutsuda ei saa inimese käsul ja mõõtmisel, et seda pole olemas ja seda ei tasu kuskile märkida, seda tuleb lausa ignoreerida "õige teadustöö" tarvis,
muidugi nüüd kitlites poisid suts edasi arenema hakanud, ja moned juba varukasse salvestavad ka kõike "praht infot"
seda mida pole võimalik ega pole plaaniski uuesti korrata, kuid mille sarnaste kogumisel, moodustub pilt,
kuoi puzzlet kokku paned, siis pole vaja nõuda, et sama jupp uuesti tekiks, iga jupp ongi ainult korra ja kõik on erinevad.. ja alles siis kui need kõik koos.. ja kõik omavahel õigesti kokku pantud ()kes teab millal see on ja kuidas käib, eks) alles siis on pilt koos mida saab tõlgendama hakata .. ja seda ka vastavalt suurusele ja arusaamadele... moni mõõdab koostist, mõni kuju.. mõni vaatab mis pildile joonistatud on ja proovib siinelatu põhjal metafooridega asja selgitada.. osad fikseeruvad elementidele ja kujutlustele mille killukesi teavad..
saavad ilma igasuguse mureta teadlaste peade kontrollimisega hakkama
relgioonid, saavad ilma igasuguse mureta olenevalt kohast ja perioodist, enamuste teadlaste peade kontrollimisega hakkama kui vaja.... naised saavad enamuste teadlaste pea kontrollimisega hakkama kui vaja jne..
aga näe, multidimensionaalsed olendid ja olendid kes meie liigi arendamisel kaasa löönud enne seda kui me teatsime mis areng on, näe nemad ei peaks saama sellega hakkama,
muidugi veel arhiivid ka.. :D
Me ei saa isegi endale lubatud teise maailma sõja lihtsaid hitleri lugusi avalikustatud arhiividest, ja siis kujutame ette, et siin info mis kogu maakera olemasolu ja arengu paljude arvates peapeale pööraks, et see info lihtsalt mingi mida koguma hakatakse arhiividesse...
selleks et "ebavajalikku" infot likvideerida, on ka teadus suures osas abiks, sest see ju õpetab, et kõik mis viirastub ja kõik mis ainult korra tundub ja mida uuesti esile kutsuda ei saa inimese käsul ja mõõtmisel, et seda pole olemas ja seda ei tasu kuskile märkida, seda tuleb lausa ignoreerida "õige teadustöö" tarvis,
muidugi nüüd kitlites poisid suts edasi arenema hakanud, ja moned juba varukasse salvestavad ka kõike "praht infot"
seda mida pole võimalik ega pole plaaniski uuesti korrata, kuid mille sarnaste kogumisel, moodustub pilt,
kuoi puzzlet kokku paned, siis pole vaja nõuda, et sama jupp uuesti tekiks, iga jupp ongi ainult korra ja kõik on erinevad.. ja alles siis kui need kõik koos.. ja kõik omavahel õigesti kokku pantud ()kes teab millal see on ja kuidas käib, eks) alles siis on pilt koos mida saab tõlgendama hakata .. ja seda ka vastavalt suurusele ja arusaamadele... moni mõõdab koostist, mõni kuju.. mõni vaatab mis pildile joonistatud on ja proovib siinelatu põhjal metafooridega asja selgitada.. osad fikseeruvad elementidele ja kujutlustele mille killukesi teavad..
6 June 2017 22:33
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Kütt's comment.
Kle kas Sina mitte see pole, kelle jutul ma Skypes käisin, ütlesid et mu idee maksab miljard ja et vaja oleks miskit töötavat mudelit enne selle asja promomiseks?
kui ühe väikse osa plaanist sain selgitatud
Peatselt enne seda kui Skype miljardiga osteti...
Mul muidugi emailipeal peaks nimi olema näha, aga mõtlesin Su varasema pildi järgi, et võid olla küll Sina.. igast rothsildidega suheldes siin kodumaised geeniused jäävad vahest unustusse
kui ühe väikse osa plaanist sain selgitatud
Peatselt enne seda kui Skype miljardiga osteti...
Mul muidugi emailipeal peaks nimi olema näha, aga mõtlesin Su varasema pildi järgi, et võid olla küll Sina.. igast rothsildidega suheldes siin kodumaised geeniused jäävad vahest unustusse
6 June 2017 22:17
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Kütt's comment.
Kuid küsimus ei olnud üldse selles, vaid selles, kas sa MEEDIAs märkasid midagi tähelepanuväärset või mitte. Selles osas.
Tulnukad on elementaarne osa nagu looduses on umbrohi, vajalik kuid elementaarne, see pole asi millele üksiti keskenduda ja sellepärast seda teematki, ma tihti ülesse ei too, ainult siis kui teatud asjade balantseerimiseks on vaja või ajalooteljele mingi märk maha jätta.
Mis te skaibis siis shamanistlike asjadega tõsisemalt ei tegelenutki v?
Sa ausalt pole LSD d siis tõsiselt tarbinud v nagu enamus suured kõrgethnoloogia loojad tehnoloogia vallas?
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/index.html
Kuid sellle lingi osas... vell.. ühe video vast postitan,
liikuv pilt parem kui tuhat sõna, vahest.
Ja küsimus oli ja jääb, selleasemel, et põgeneda, vasta reaalselt, miks inimesed, kes on kõrgetel kohtadel,
miks nad massiliselt rohkem ja rohkem valetama peaks hakkama nendel teemadel ?
Me räägime siin mitte kellegi usust, vaid absoluutsest veendumustest ja kohtumistest, uuringutest, tulemustest, ja talupoja mõistusest ja loogikast.
Nagu Hillary ütles... kordan veel... vaevalt, et neid keegi köögis välja mõtleb...
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Kui need inimesed keda isiklikult tean, välja jätta,
kes nii laevadest tulnutega suhelnud, kel toas käidud ja palju muud, kui need välja jätta, ja valida järgmine teooria, siis ainuke asi mis seletaks asja, on mingi globaalne Kommunistlik konspiratsioon, kus meelega järk järgult kõrgematelt kohtadelt on valetama hakatud systemaatiliselt, välise ohu osas, et siis meid kokku tuua ja yhisele valitsusele allutada ()see muidugi juhtub ka lisaks reaalne agenda olema, kuid see selleks)
et käivad tegelased, agendid kodust kodussse, nii teadlaste kui kodumallede juures, ja kuulujuttude, valede levitamiseks, nakatavad nad mingi kõva deliiriumit tekitava ainega, kustutavad osa mälu... vägistavad... piinavad jms, teatrilises segadust tekitavas olukoras, selleks, et tal pärast jääks mulje, et tulnarid, see muidugi ka plaan, päris palju tööd inimeste enda kanda... kuid eks agente ole palju ja see ka teooria väärt arvestamast (sest juhuslikult sarnaseid asju nagunii tehakse ka, massiliselt, see selleks )
Tulnukad on elementaarne osa nagu looduses on umbrohi, vajalik kuid elementaarne, see pole asi millele üksiti keskenduda ja sellepärast seda teematki, ma tihti ülesse ei too, ainult siis kui teatud asjade balantseerimiseks on vaja või ajalooteljele mingi märk maha jätta.
Mis te skaibis siis shamanistlike asjadega tõsisemalt ei tegelenutki v?
Sa ausalt pole LSD d siis tõsiselt tarbinud v nagu enamus suured kõrgethnoloogia loojad tehnoloogia vallas?
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/index.html
Kuid sellle lingi osas... vell.. ühe video vast postitan,
liikuv pilt parem kui tuhat sõna, vahest.
Ja küsimus oli ja jääb, selleasemel, et põgeneda, vasta reaalselt, miks inimesed, kes on kõrgetel kohtadel,
miks nad massiliselt rohkem ja rohkem valetama peaks hakkama nendel teemadel ?
Me räägime siin mitte kellegi usust, vaid absoluutsest veendumustest ja kohtumistest, uuringutest, tulemustest, ja talupoja mõistusest ja loogikast.
Nagu Hillary ütles... kordan veel... vaevalt, et neid keegi köögis välja mõtleb...
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Kui need inimesed keda isiklikult tean, välja jätta,
kes nii laevadest tulnutega suhelnud, kel toas käidud ja palju muud, kui need välja jätta, ja valida järgmine teooria, siis ainuke asi mis seletaks asja, on mingi globaalne Kommunistlik konspiratsioon, kus meelega järk järgult kõrgematelt kohtadelt on valetama hakatud systemaatiliselt, välise ohu osas, et siis meid kokku tuua ja yhisele valitsusele allutada ()see muidugi juhtub ka lisaks reaalne agenda olema, kuid see selleks)
et käivad tegelased, agendid kodust kodussse, nii teadlaste kui kodumallede juures, ja kuulujuttude, valede levitamiseks, nakatavad nad mingi kõva deliiriumit tekitava ainega, kustutavad osa mälu... vägistavad... piinavad jms, teatrilises segadust tekitavas olukoras, selleks, et tal pärast jääks mulje, et tulnarid, see muidugi ka plaan, päris palju tööd inimeste enda kanda... kuid eks agente ole palju ja see ka teooria väärt arvestamast (sest juhuslikult sarnaseid asju nagunii tehakse ka, massiliselt, see selleks )
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/index.html
6 June 2017 22:13
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Kütt's comment.
Teadus paljude arvates JUST selleks on tehtud, et lisaks muule, kontrollida mida võib mõelda ja et panna inimesed sõltuma kellegi arvamustest, arvamustest mida saab neile tekiitada... eriti siis kui vaimupimedad inimesed ja ei oska arvesse võtta enda ilma välist olukorda... paras vaadata ära x-man i kaks viimast ajaga seotud osa, saab ka targemaks kui enamuse greeka kooli haridusega.
see list ei mahuks kuhugi ära, mida teadus on teadnud ja siis ümber teadnud ja siis välja naerdud jne... samas enamus taimede, shamanistlikud ja usutarkused, mis reaalsed olulised ja vajalikud inimliigile, on aastatuhandeid püsinud.,
Mõned isegi uuesti avastatakse, robot ja teadusajude kaudu .. et ega mõni muidu armastusest ja elust aru ei saa kui selle kohta fiktiivset kuid toimivat valemit ja võrrandit ei näe,
tuleviku teadusmehel vist ei tõuse ka enne kui võrrand nii ei ütle, et nii olema peaks, puhas kommunism
see list ei mahuks kuhugi ära, mida teadus on teadnud ja siis ümber teadnud ja siis välja naerdud jne... samas enamus taimede, shamanistlikud ja usutarkused, mis reaalsed olulised ja vajalikud inimliigile, on aastatuhandeid püsinud.,
Mõned isegi uuesti avastatakse, robot ja teadusajude kaudu .. et ega mõni muidu armastusest ja elust aru ei saa kui selle kohta fiktiivset kuid toimivat valemit ja võrrandit ei näe,
tuleviku teadusmehel vist ei tõuse ka enne kui võrrand nii ei ütle, et nii olema peaks, puhas kommunism
6 June 2017 21:56
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Kütt's comment.
Ma lihtsalt räägin seda mida SINU MIT praktikast PALJU kõrgemal tasemel ja kogemustel inimesed VEENDUNULT on väitnud, mitte ma ei räägi vandenõu lehtede juttudest, ma isegi ei käi ega ei külasta vandenõu lehti, isegi telegrammi ei loe.,
()eelnimetatud põhjustel)
()kui käin, siis enamasti suts teistel põhjustel..
See lihtsalt Nii elementaarne teema, et imelik, et nii targa rahaga nagu eestlased, seda arutama peab,
mysteriousuniverse.org/2014/04/ufos-are-welcome-in-estonia/
()eelnimetatud põhjustel)
()kui käin, siis enamasti suts teistel põhjustel..
See lihtsalt Nii elementaarne teema, et imelik, et nii targa rahaga nagu eestlased, seda arutama peab,
mysteriousuniverse.org/2014/04/ufos-are-welcome-in-estonia/
6 June 2017 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Kütt's comment.
Tead mõnda, kes kannab ja on nõus alluma, kandma lipsu ja siis pole kontrollitud või?
Vooglaid isegi, kuigi ta püüab.. julguse piires
ja kelle peade kontrollimisest asi pihta su arvates hakkab, kummad väärtuslikumad on, teadlased või suvaline küla malle
(kuigi tõsi on, hinge väärtus neil kõigil.. ja väärtus palju suurem kui mallel uskuda lastakse)
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"hakkavad teadlaste päid kontrollima"
see ikka nii naljkas lause, umbes nagu Teadlaste ordid oleks maine nähe :D:D
Vooglaid isegi, kuigi ta püüab.. julguse piires
ja kelle peade kontrollimisest asi pihta su arvates hakkab, kummad väärtuslikumad on, teadlased või suvaline küla malle
(kuigi tõsi on, hinge väärtus neil kõigil.. ja väärtus palju suurem kui mallel uskuda lastakse)
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"hakkavad teadlaste päid kontrollima"
see ikka nii naljkas lause, umbes nagu Teadlaste ordid oleks maine nähe :D:D
6 June 2017 21:43
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Kütt's comment.
Kas sa tõsimeeli siiralt muidu nii lihtsat asja küsisid või nagu sportlikust trollis,t kas sa päriselt mõtlesid ka praktiliselt mida küsisid?
Teadlaste päid on ju PALJU lihtsam kontrollida, sest nad ei söö igast suvalist saasta endale sisse, ei vaata rämpsu ja ei tegele ebapraktiliste asjadega.
Kui sellise elementaarse asjaga ei oska arvestada, et need kes kontrollivad, nende tavatööpäev on lihtne rakendada IGA inimese peale kümneid töölisi, kes vererõhust kuni unenägude meeldejätmise selekteerimiseni, erinevaid ülesandeid täidavad.
irw.. suht naljkas.. "juba teadlaste peade kontrollimine...."
Umbes nagu see mingi eri tase oleks, nagu Preestritest või shamaanidest räägiksid.
Oled ehk tähele pannud, et enamus teadlased kannavad lipsu?
Tead m
Teadlaste päid on ju PALJU lihtsam kontrollida, sest nad ei söö igast suvalist saasta endale sisse, ei vaata rämpsu ja ei tegele ebapraktiliste asjadega.
Kui sellise elementaarse asjaga ei oska arvestada, et need kes kontrollivad, nende tavatööpäev on lihtne rakendada IGA inimese peale kümneid töölisi, kes vererõhust kuni unenägude meeldejätmise selekteerimiseni, erinevaid ülesandeid täidavad.
irw.. suht naljkas.. "juba teadlaste peade kontrollimine...."
Umbes nagu see mingi eri tase oleks, nagu Preestritest või shamaanidest räägiksid.
Oled ehk tähele pannud, et enamus teadlased kannavad lipsu?
Tead m
6 June 2017 21:42
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Kütt's comment.
See oleks tõesti väga veider möödapanek, kui nad loovad arhiivi süsteeme ja keeli, kultuure ja systeeme, masinaid ja seadusi, ja siis ei oska ette arvestada sellise pisikese asjaga nagu teadlaste peade kontrollimine või arhiivide organiseerimist selliselt kuidas vaja,
lihtsalt nii mitmekesised inimesed, kuigi neid on palju rohkem kui inimesi, siis ikka apsakad tulevad sisse kas meelega.. või kingitustena nende poolt kes meid sellest orjusest vabastada proovivad, et seda vähkkasvajat me liigiküljest lahti rebida... kõike polegi vaja teada, et teada mis on vaja teha ja mis on
lihtsalt nii mitmekesised inimesed, kuigi neid on palju rohkem kui inimesi, siis ikka apsakad tulevad sisse kas meelega.. või kingitustena nende poolt kes meid sellest orjusest vabastada proovivad, et seda vähkkasvajat me liigiküljest lahti rebida... kõike polegi vaja teada, et teada mis on vaja teha ja mis on
6 June 2017 21:38
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Kütt's comment.
nii noori kui vanu, ja peale neid kohtamisi, suurem osa neist, viimane asi mida nad teha soovivad, on sellest avalikusele rääkima hakata, sest tihti koos kohtamistega antakse ka arusaamad, mida tasub ja mida ei tasu teha. .. kuigi, eks mõned ole teisest puust ja ikka oma päeaga inimasja ajavad. osad julgemad, osad ullikesemad... osad asja tõsidusest ei saa aru ja osad siiralt arvates, et neil endal asjad sassis, abi otsivad.
Kuid kui me räägime inimestest, kes on tõsiste sõjaväe tärnidega, tõsiste surfirmade juht, tõsiste valitsusasutuste arendajad... ja kui nemad sellist juttu rääkima hakkavad, siis tuleb nagu mõelda suts siin.,. et kas kasub siin nõuda "per reviewd" või natukene talupoja mõistust kasutada ja mõtlema hakata, MIKS nad räägivad nii
nii erinevatelt aladelt ... ja MIKS ?
Kuid kui me räägime inimestest, kes on tõsiste sõjaväe tärnidega, tõsiste surfirmade juht, tõsiste valitsusasutuste arendajad... ja kui nemad sellist juttu rääkima hakkavad, siis tuleb nagu mõelda suts siin.,. et kas kasub siin nõuda "per reviewd" või natukene talupoja mõistust kasutada ja mõtlema hakata, MIKS nad räägivad nii
nii erinevatelt aladelt ... ja MIKS ?
6 June 2017 21:34
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Kütt's comment.
Teadus käib nii kuidas tulnukad ette kirjutavad, eks nad siis tea, kuidas nad selle asja sedasi ette kirjutanud, reeglistiku, et selliseid asju ei saa per-reviewida, ilmselgelt.
Mitte üks härra ei räägi, väga suur hulk väga kõrgetel kohtadel inimestest räägivad, lisaks millionitele inimestele kes ise kohanud mitmekesistes versioonides, nii oma toas, õues, unes, kui muus aegruumis,
Tean isiklikult väga mitmeid inimesi kellel palju sügavamad kogemused
kui "nägin miskit valgust, ketas taevas"
Mitte üks härra ei räägi, väga suur hulk väga kõrgetel kohtadel inimestest räägivad, lisaks millionitele inimestele kes ise kohanud mitmekesistes versioonides, nii oma toas, õues, unes, kui muus aegruumis,
Tean isiklikult väga mitmeid inimesi kellel palju sügavamad kogemused
kui "nägin miskit valgust, ketas taevas"
6 June 2017 21:30
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Muidugi Sinul oma arusaam kommuasjadest, selgita oma sõnadega, ehk osakd
6 June 2017 21:24
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kuid kas sa siis said informatsiooni kindlust nüüd, et ON asjad mis on kindlad ja on asjad mis on Teada,
lisaks sellele, et on hea, lõhnav ja ilus jms.. ?
lisaks sellele, et on hea, lõhnav ja ilus jms.. ?
6 June 2017 21:22
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov tead väga hästi mida selle nime all mõtlen ja seda selgitanud ka sulle, kuid ära nüüd liberaalse kommunistliku manöövrina seda teemat mujale vii, et vastusest eemale viilida, vaid vasta ikka seda mis on küsitud,
Kuid siis korra veel selgemalt, et mitte samasse jälgedesse astuda, teemat eemale viies:
kommunist on Looja (looduse, lootuse) vastane rooma-impeerialiku tulnukaliikide mass agendas teadlikult või teadmatult osalev kes järgib loodustraditsioonidest eemale viivaid ideaalne mille tulem on enamasti kaasa aitamine inimliigi süstematiseeritud orjastamisele läbi inimeste endi vabatahliku tegevuse.
(LISA)
tegevuse, mis on enamasti naturaalsete elutingimustega vastuolus, eirab loodusele allumist, kuid samas panevad suurt rõhku kas siis organiseeritud süstematiseeritud tootmisele kasutades inimest bilooogilise masinaosana või hoides inimeste gruppe suurtes emotsioonilistes vaevustes läbi vaesuse ja õpitud saamatuse. Mõlemal tegevusel on muidugi teine tegelik pool, lisaks sellele, et oma kätega nad seda maad hävitada ei saa nii edukalt kui meie enda käteläbi (seisundisse kus inimesed omakorda vabatahtlikult ise suuremat kontrolli nõuavad enda orjastamiseks ja organiseerimiseks) kuid selle kogu töö ja vaeva tegelikum tagataust lisaks mineraalide kogumisele, erladamisele ja väekristallide ning pühakohtade hävitamisele, et nad sügavamale saaks sisse tungida uutesse tasemetesse meie hinge ja aega, on see asi neil, et nad samal ajal kogu seda teatrit mida tööks ja tegevuseks kutsutakse, kasutavad energia pumpamiseks, ja inimeste päitsetes hoidmiseks, relvadena, et neid mis iganes tegevuse peale saaks suunata kui vaja. Muidugi veel hybriidide tegemine jms, mille hõlbustamiseks mass mastaapides on vaja moraalid lõdvestada ja vanad kaitsemehanismid eemadada, et mitmel eri tasemel naistele meeste läbi ligi saada jms. Ka meeste vajaliku seemet, läbi ülevõetud naiste kätte saada oma aretamiste jaoks, kuid need aretamised ,on juba muul tasemel, avalikud inimlaborid mida siin avalikustama hakatakse ehk tulevikus, kui enesekindlamaks muutuvad, on naljategu nende suurtööstuste kõrval, kes nii söögiks kui muuks meid muudes aegruumides toodavad.
See tagasihoidlik kirjeldus, kuid mastaabid on palju sügavamd ja suuremad, tavalise kommunistist nooruki sees saab olla ka igahetk mingi muu vaim ja kontroller, võib ju veel eri klassidesse ja gruppidesse liigitada seda kõike, kuid milleks, lihtsam nõustuda, kõigile tundutd viimase aja suurima ühise nimetajaga, sellised tegevused ja tegelased, ehk siis kommunism, võib ju öelda ka roomalsed, kui see annaks neile liialt au ja fokuseeriks keskme ainult ühte aega, igaüks saab aru, et kommunism ja satanism on sama asi, seega ilma suurtkurja nimetamata ning ilma relgiooni uskudesse sattumatta, kasutan seda väljendit ühise nimetajaga kõikide ideaalide ja ideoloogiate ja tegevuste ja olendite kohta, kes alluvad lõpkokkuvõttes samade tulemitega tulnukatele
tulnukas muidugi pehme nimetus, asja tegelikule olemusele.
questions ?
Kuid siis korra veel selgemalt, et mitte samasse jälgedesse astuda, teemat eemale viies:
kommunist on Looja (looduse, lootuse) vastane rooma-impeerialiku tulnukaliikide mass agendas teadlikult või teadmatult osalev kes järgib loodustraditsioonidest eemale viivaid ideaalne mille tulem on enamasti kaasa aitamine inimliigi süstematiseeritud orjastamisele läbi inimeste endi vabatahliku tegevuse.
(LISA)
tegevuse, mis on enamasti naturaalsete elutingimustega vastuolus, eirab loodusele allumist, kuid samas panevad suurt rõhku kas siis organiseeritud süstematiseeritud tootmisele kasutades inimest bilooogilise masinaosana või hoides inimeste gruppe suurtes emotsioonilistes vaevustes läbi vaesuse ja õpitud saamatuse. Mõlemal tegevusel on muidugi teine tegelik pool, lisaks sellele, et oma kätega nad seda maad hävitada ei saa nii edukalt kui meie enda käteläbi (seisundisse kus inimesed omakorda vabatahtlikult ise suuremat kontrolli nõuavad enda orjastamiseks ja organiseerimiseks) kuid selle kogu töö ja vaeva tegelikum tagataust lisaks mineraalide kogumisele, erladamisele ja väekristallide ning pühakohtade hävitamisele, et nad sügavamale saaks sisse tungida uutesse tasemetesse meie hinge ja aega, on see asi neil, et nad samal ajal kogu seda teatrit mida tööks ja tegevuseks kutsutakse, kasutavad energia pumpamiseks, ja inimeste päitsetes hoidmiseks, relvadena, et neid mis iganes tegevuse peale saaks suunata kui vaja. Muidugi veel hybriidide tegemine jms, mille hõlbustamiseks mass mastaapides on vaja moraalid lõdvestada ja vanad kaitsemehanismid eemadada, et mitmel eri tasemel naistele meeste läbi ligi saada jms. Ka meeste vajaliku seemet, läbi ülevõetud naiste kätte saada oma aretamiste jaoks, kuid need aretamised ,on juba muul tasemel, avalikud inimlaborid mida siin avalikustama hakatakse ehk tulevikus, kui enesekindlamaks muutuvad, on naljategu nende suurtööstuste kõrval, kes nii söögiks kui muuks meid muudes aegruumides toodavad.
See tagasihoidlik kirjeldus, kuid mastaabid on palju sügavamd ja suuremad, tavalise kommunistist nooruki sees saab olla ka igahetk mingi muu vaim ja kontroller, võib ju veel eri klassidesse ja gruppidesse liigitada seda kõike, kuid milleks, lihtsam nõustuda, kõigile tundutd viimase aja suurima ühise nimetajaga, sellised tegevused ja tegelased, ehk siis kommunism, võib ju öelda ka roomalsed, kui see annaks neile liialt au ja fokuseeriks keskme ainult ühte aega, igaüks saab aru, et kommunism ja satanism on sama asi, seega ilma suurtkurja nimetamata ning ilma relgiooni uskudesse sattumatta, kasutan seda väljendit ühise nimetajaga kõikide ideaalide ja ideoloogiate ja tegevuste ja olendite kohta, kes alluvad lõpkokkuvõttes samade tulemitega tulnukatele
tulnukas muidugi pehme nimetus, asja tegelikule olemusele.
questions ?
6 June 2017 21:21
Margus Meigo replied to Debosophy Fairstrehadd's comment.
Group: Psychic Energy and Lightworking--Unite in Peace
Please take it kindly6 June 2017 20:02
Margus Meigo replied to Debosophy Fairstrehadd's comment.
Group: Psychic Energy and Lightworking--Unite in Peace
Thank You for feedback,
Just for information, this is why we have murderous killings in planet, because people do not pay attention the hairstyles and what people wear and do,
this is the root how the alien species infiltrated us and how they show us that they are not from Earth. we ignored.. and then ... we have had thousands of years killings.
This particular hairstyle is one of the most murderous regime and ideology master cut,
This is the reason why most people are unable to solve and find a solution for killings and meat eatings, as they do not pay attention to the technology they use for planet earth infiltrations,
also we ignore to much how much harm some silly fashion that Justin Bilberg kind of people promote us will bring to us,
There is no place in Earth where poisoning hair with blue color helps with temperature. even when we want to excuse rest of the cut as just fashion trap that Yong people step in to by not thinking what they cut of from their body.
Hair is extreme important nerve-system extension, that allows women to be women,
in my life have NEWER meet even one women with this wiking-roman alien haircut who would have relationship, nerve-system, emotions alright or the sexuality.
I am telling it for caring, for setting things right, and than You, that you did not take it as an intimidation.
Some women even shave down part also, disconnecting them self from basic earth energy's complete,
people got to learn or full body higher godly functions, when we keep putting unneeded holes in to a body, cut and poison it with plastic and god knows what, then is hard to understand rest of the problems and solutions in a world.
For "War mode" for a killing tools who do not need some womanly wisdom ,these haircuts are perfect., but in these dais, when everything that real women is, in glory is under perversions attack, we must all stand for what we have left in here, not so much promoting to others to fallow alien traits that will damage our species in spiritual level (and then real life level) so many ways...
Nearly No one who knows these things, will just look and label people with these kind of haircuts whiteout a talk,
it is like putting label on it self "i am this kind and this kind, influenced by these kind of spirits"
by heart, most of people who have had these kind of styles for life, are generally good, sensitive even i would say, to sensitive even, i would say .. and hurting easily..,
but it is a telling so much in so many eyes... and mostly not the best .. but as i want best, so i say so
(there was even small writing for a women in a matriarchic toned blog "My Tiny Secrets" about hair.. )6 June 2017 20:00
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
see millise informatsiooni või asja tarvis sinu väljaheidet kasutatakse nähtamatude infovõrkude poolt, on juba iseasi, lisaks on päris kindel, et inimene ei näe paremini kui talle liiva silma kallata ja suht enamus liigist ei saa keskenduda matemaatika ülesannetele kui munadesse elektrilöök anda.
Eelmise näite täpsustus eeliseks võib veel lisada "inimene kes sööb peab väljutama..."
Kui Sul veel vaja asju teada on, mis on päris kindlad, siis anna teada.
(nu vähemasti meil maal, mine tea kudias marsil..)
Eelmise näite täpsustus eeliseks võib veel lisada "inimene kes sööb peab väljutama..."
Kui Sul veel vaja asju teada on, mis on päris kindlad, siis anna teada.
(nu vähemasti meil maal, mine tea kudias marsil..)
6 June 2017 19:42
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Minul küll on reaalseid arusaame päris mitmest asjast,
see luul, et inimestel pole mitte millegist arusaame, on kommunistidelt, et uuel ajal mis iganes milleks iganes väänata, see ohtlik accultistlik usk, mustade inimvaenulike maailmade oma, ja sellesse pole vaja jääda sest siis ei saa elulõpuni rahu ega edumeelsuse tunnet, ega ka neid asju tehtud teadlikult mida vaja teha oleks siin.
Kas Sul ei ole reaalset arusaama, et pead potile oma keha viima, muidu püksilastes kuuaega järjest mädaneb taguots küljest ära?
Lisaks teistele kes liigikaaslaseks end nimetavad, tekitab see suurt ebameeldivust.
On sul selline arusaam, kindel teadmine, veendumus ja usk, mida kindlalt oma lapsele võid edasi õpetada, seda tema peal temalt küsimatta rakendada teades, et see talle hea on või puudub sul see üks paljudest kindlatest teadmistest mis meil siin inimestena jagada on ?
see luul, et inimestel pole mitte millegist arusaame, on kommunistidelt, et uuel ajal mis iganes milleks iganes väänata, see ohtlik accultistlik usk, mustade inimvaenulike maailmade oma, ja sellesse pole vaja jääda sest siis ei saa elulõpuni rahu ega edumeelsuse tunnet, ega ka neid asju tehtud teadlikult mida vaja teha oleks siin.
Kas Sul ei ole reaalset arusaama, et pead potile oma keha viima, muidu püksilastes kuuaega järjest mädaneb taguots küljest ära?
Lisaks teistele kes liigikaaslaseks end nimetavad, tekitab see suurt ebameeldivust.
On sul selline arusaam, kindel teadmine, veendumus ja usk, mida kindlalt oma lapsele võid edasi õpetada, seda tema peal temalt küsimatta rakendada teades, et see talle hea on või puudub sul see üks paljudest kindlatest teadmistest mis meil siin inimestena jagada on ?
6 June 2017 19:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei ole selles miagi naturaalset, kuid ma ei hakka sellesse pikemalt minema kui lähedane inimene, et mitte solvata
6 June 2017 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Parem ikka mitte juukseid ja habe narrida vaid naturaalsuses kasvada
6 June 2017 19:31
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
VÄGA supper pilt, värvid ja kõik
6 June 2017 19:30
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
uudist märkasid muidu või ei?
Mis arvad miks nad seda promovad?
Mis arvad miks nad seda promovad?
6 June 2017 18:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
russia state propaganda western front is not sharing this out of boredom:
"“We’ve decided to highlight a few documents both skeptics and believers will find interesting. Below you will find five documents we think X-Files character Agent Fox Mulder would love to use to try and persuade others of the existence of extraterrestrial activity,” the agency said.
All the documents date from the late 1940s and ’50s.
The CIA picked several documents which may be particularly interesting. They include files from East Germany (1952) where the agents were investigating a story of “a huge flying pan” which had a diameter of about 15 meters.
Another document which would cheer up extraterrestrial fans says that similar ‘flying saucers’ were seen in Spain and North Africa.
“The picture [of the object] shows a diagonal stripe of diminishing width and lighter in shade than the sky over the dark bulk of a building cornice,” the document says.
The CIA even included several pictures of the alleged extraterrestrial objects, including UFOs and suggested alien body parts. The release of the ‘conspiracy’ files surprisingly coincided with the release of new X-Files series.
One of CIA documents explains how to take better photos of UFOs.
“Take several pictures of the object; as many as you can. If you can, include some ground in the picture of the UFO,” the agency advised.
However, for those who sided with skeptical Agent Dana Scully all nine seasons, the CIA said it released documents “to prove there is a scientific explanation for UFO sightings.”
The CIA has frequently organized scientific panels to discuss the nature of these allegedly alien objects. In many cases, the scientists concluded that “the subject UFO is not of direct intelligence interest.”
https://www.rt.com/usa/330325-cia-ufo-declassified-files/
//ohh did we mention the logo of these agencies...
"“We’ve decided to highlight a few documents both skeptics and believers will find interesting. Below you will find five documents we think X-Files character Agent Fox Mulder would love to use to try and persuade others of the existence of extraterrestrial activity,” the agency said.
All the documents date from the late 1940s and ’50s.
The CIA picked several documents which may be particularly interesting. They include files from East Germany (1952) where the agents were investigating a story of “a huge flying pan” which had a diameter of about 15 meters.
Another document which would cheer up extraterrestrial fans says that similar ‘flying saucers’ were seen in Spain and North Africa.
“The picture [of the object] shows a diagonal stripe of diminishing width and lighter in shade than the sky over the dark bulk of a building cornice,” the document says.
The CIA even included several pictures of the alleged extraterrestrial objects, including UFOs and suggested alien body parts. The release of the ‘conspiracy’ files surprisingly coincided with the release of new X-Files series.
One of CIA documents explains how to take better photos of UFOs.
“Take several pictures of the object; as many as you can. If you can, include some ground in the picture of the UFO,” the agency advised.
However, for those who sided with skeptical Agent Dana Scully all nine seasons, the CIA said it released documents “to prove there is a scientific explanation for UFO sightings.”
The CIA has frequently organized scientific panels to discuss the nature of these allegedly alien objects. In many cases, the scientists concluded that “the subject UFO is not of direct intelligence interest.”
https://www.rt.com/usa/330325-cia-ufo-declassified-files/
//ohh did we mention the logo of these agencies...
https://www.rt.com/usa/330325-cia-ufo-declassified-files/
6 June 2017 18:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// russian state propaganda & information channels, wonder why + //
venelased mõnuga lasevad tuld õlile juurde
"“Because the War in Space race is heating up, I felt you should be aware of several factors as you and I schedule our Skype talk,” Mitchell, who died in February, tells Podesta in the mails from 2015, before mentioning a “nonviolent” alien species that wishes to share with mankind “zero point energy.”
Podesta was serving as counselor to President Barack Obama during the exchange, before he left the position to become chairman of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign."
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Terri Mansfield, who describes herself online as “the Director of the ETI (Extraterrestrial Intelligence) Peace Task Force” is also mentioned in one of Mitchell’s emails.
Referred to as Mitchell’s “Catholic colleague,” Mansfield is also said to be attending the meeting with Podesta “to bring us up to date on the Vatican’s awareness of ETI.”
On her website, Mansfield describes ETIs as being “the highest form of intelligence working directly with God.”
Mitchell, who includes in his email signature that he’s the “6th man to walk on the Moon,” warns Podesta that the “nonviolent ETI” are helping to share zero point energy with Earth but will not “tolerate any forms of military violence on Earth or in space."
https://www.rt.com/viral/362272-podesta-emails-aliens-vatican/
venelased mõnuga lasevad tuld õlile juurde
"“Because the War in Space race is heating up, I felt you should be aware of several factors as you and I schedule our Skype talk,” Mitchell, who died in February, tells Podesta in the mails from 2015, before mentioning a “nonviolent” alien species that wishes to share with mankind “zero point energy.”
Podesta was serving as counselor to President Barack Obama during the exchange, before he left the position to become chairman of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign."
-
Terri Mansfield, who describes herself online as “the Director of the ETI (Extraterrestrial Intelligence) Peace Task Force” is also mentioned in one of Mitchell’s emails.
Referred to as Mitchell’s “Catholic colleague,” Mansfield is also said to be attending the meeting with Podesta “to bring us up to date on the Vatican’s awareness of ETI.”
On her website, Mansfield describes ETIs as being “the highest form of intelligence working directly with God.”
Mitchell, who includes in his email signature that he’s the “6th man to walk on the Moon,” warns Podesta that the “nonviolent ETI” are helping to share zero point energy with Earth but will not “tolerate any forms of military violence on Earth or in space."
https://www.rt.com/viral/362272-podesta-emails-aliens-vatican/
6 June 2017 18:07
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
peaasi, et integreerud siinsete arusaamade järgi
6 June 2017 17:45
Margus Meigo commented on Elna Talviste's post.
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Kui vaid mul niipalju kunagi veaks, et saaksin Põlvasse elama minna..
kahjuks pean aga Filipiinidele minema, pea siin välja ei mõtle praegu muud kuidas siia momendil jääda ja oma tegevust maailmaparanduse osas jätkata6 June 2017 17:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi me mõttes tulonarid on ka lisaks muule kõrgem kristlik jõud kes siin inimeis kasvatab, kuid eks ka neid võib olla mitmesuguseid kui arvestada, et inimesed ja siin maal toimuv on lihtne peegeldus väiksemas skaalas selgitamaks mis kõikidel muudel tasanditel toimub ja mis olemas on (mõttemallid, tehnoloogiad, tegevused, emotsioonid, intriigid ja reeglid, tabud ning väärtused ).
Selgitaks mitmeid käitumusi ja arenguid, ja nagu Hillary ütles "vaevalt, et inimesed köögis igavusest nii suurt hulka juhtumeid välja mõtleks"
Selgitaks mitmeid käitumusi ja arenguid, ja nagu Hillary ütles "vaevalt, et inimesed köögis igavusest nii suurt hulka juhtumeid välja mõtleks"
6 June 2017 12:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(mitte see Marilyn'i lugu, mitte mingi teooria, vaid inimeselt kes ütles, et ta teadaolevalt maapeal kõigerohkem selle kõige uuringuks resursse investeerinud, teadusagentuuridega valitsuste kõrgemates astmetes koostöödanud, et lisaks oma vanemate tunnistustele kes ammu veendunud olid ise otse nähes... ta teab igasuguse kahtluseta öelda, et nad meie seas...
Muidugi kui selle vanainimese, tunnustatud jõuka inimese sõnu mitte uskuda, arvata, et see tema agenda on, kuidagi sõjatõõstuse manipuleerimiseks ja kommunistide hirmutamiseks... siis nu ka see on hea teooria, täitsa võimalik, isegi siis kui eelnev tõsi on
Kuigi ta ise suht sõjaasjade vastane oli jutu ja raamatute järgi..
kuid jah.. huvitav, kes märkas, millegi pärast selle artikli alla polnud isegi inimese nime kirjutantud, kes selle toimetas,
kuid leidsin loo video koopia, konservatiivsest austatud, hinnatud kanaada uudiste saatest (60 minutes), kus ta sõnasõnalt ütleski seda mida lehes meil tõlgiti... seega polnud ka meie enda meedia väljamõeldis.
Muidugi kui selle vanainimese, tunnustatud jõuka inimese sõnu mitte uskuda, arvata, et see tema agenda on, kuidagi sõjatõõstuse manipuleerimiseks ja kommunistide hirmutamiseks... siis nu ka see on hea teooria, täitsa võimalik, isegi siis kui eelnev tõsi on
Kuigi ta ise suht sõjaasjade vastane oli jutu ja raamatute järgi..
kuid jah.. huvitav, kes märkas, millegi pärast selle artikli alla polnud isegi inimese nime kirjutantud, kes selle toimetas,
kuid leidsin loo video koopia, konservatiivsest austatud, hinnatud kanaada uudiste saatest (60 minutes), kus ta sõnasõnalt ütleski seda mida lehes meil tõlgiti... seega polnud ka meie enda meedia väljamõeldis.
6 June 2017 12:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: The Real Worldwide Truth Movement!
did something happened ?6 June 2017 11:01
Margus Meigo commented on John Greenewald's post.
Group: The Real Worldwide Truth Movement!
Old times You had much more serious things on front page, , now is only one kind of things..6 June 2017 11:01
Margus Meigo replied to Ivo Ilmsalu's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
eriti irooniline, et see on ÜRO, kelle poole me palume, sest ometigi nemad need, kes endale logoks võtnud selle sammuse, Rooma-impeeriumi logo koos kogu maailmapildiga mis vangistavate ringtrellide taga....
Kõik muu võib vaidlustatav olla, kuid sümboli põhielement, on ikka sama, mis Nõukogu liidul, ainult viisnurgad on puudu ja neid on Euroopa lipul piisavalt.. ja eks nad siis sedasi silme all toimivad, orjakarjaga.. ja plaanid pikema aja peale veetuna.. läbiviidud saavad, ilma, et ise märkaksime, milliseid lipsumehi aitame...
Juba see, et lubame lipsudega inimestel, eesimaal, eestinimel siin telekas eestlastena rääkida... kui kadunud saab veel selgus olla..6 June 2017 10:52
Margus Meigo commented on Renèe O'neill's post.
Group: Psychic Energy and Lightworking--Unite in Peace
i can just say,Lucky You , (just, if you can sort out and master the violating part (there is many beings among us who do violate on us all the time, this is why city's was made by Them)6 June 2017 10:46
Margus Meigo replied to Debosophy Fairstrehadd's comment.
Group: Psychic Energy and Lightworking--Unite in Peace
but besides that, i feel You and agree, just the part "as long it does not hurt"
need to go deeper, as... many do things, that they not understand, is hurting,
some even imagine they are "self" and not part of rest of the species and imagine, that what they do to the "self" does not influence others and specially their kids .
Hair is magical, it have to be respected and honored,
hurting, killing hair, destructing hair will also cut of part of feelings and understanding of life6 June 2017 10:41
Margus Meigo replied to Debosophy Fairstrehadd's comment.
Group: Psychic Energy and Lightworking--Unite in Peace
starting whit destruction of hair that is anti-female agenda,
meaning anti-life.
This is what the roman-greek pederasty society wants, and this kind of hair stile it self is also murderous, it represents the wiking like forces who raped and destruct most of the peaceful vegan world in our side of world (From Russia to UK)6 June 2017 10:39
Margus Meigo replied to Debosophy Fairstrehadd's comment.
Group: Psychic Energy and Lightworking--Unite in Peace
not smart thinking
just by not caring, u already hurting6 June 2017 10:36
Margus Meigo commented on Kurt Nopain's post.
Group: Unapologetic Vegans Group
Looks like i finally found a group where people think normal,
(i feel not so good even harming accidental reaction mosquito who bite me, but still complicated to find the ones who are able to integrate aliens, matriarchy, religion missions and shamanic life in to it all )6 June 2017 10:35
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
naljakas juba vaadata seda kuidas need kes näpuotsaga protsendiliselt väikseid tagasilööke teevad, sedasi jälestame ja põlgame, kuid neid lipsudega jätiseid kes syyria, iraagi jms maad õhku lasknud on ja massiliselt selliseid "jätiseid" tootnud, nende osas suurt kisa pole suuremal osal inimestel, et ikka nagu oma silutud poisid eks.
see oleks arulage kui meil siin ei lendaks pomme ja tõesti fantastiline, uskumatugi, et miljardine punt keda nii ilmselgelt rohkem rünnatud on suutnud ennast religiooniga nii vagusi ja tagasihoidlikute lammastena hoida, et ainult siin seal vahest harva kogu läääne maaulmapeale kokku mõni pomm enda tee leiab.
näalas mõned üksikud pommid ainult võrreldes kümnete tuhandete pommide ja sadadetuhande tulistamistega aastast aastasse.. kui siin võrdlema hakata.
ise siin lubame inimestel lipsu kanda nagu täis biorobotid ja siis karjume tagajärgede pihta, selleasemel, et punaseid põhjusi vaadata6 June 2017 10:31
Margus Meigo commented on Kim Marcussen's post.
Hardcore man he is
5 June 2017 22:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or at least a Woman, nature
5 June 2017 22:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
why not say "God
Much more clear
Much more clear
5 June 2017 22:15
Margus Meigo commented on Kim Marcussen's post.
What kind of force?
5 June 2017 22:15
Margus Meigo commented on Kim Marcussen's post.
That they listen what my kind is wanting us do who can
(from IT, royal systems to matriarchy and nature, natural shaman and respect of parents-children-relationships )
(from IT, royal systems to matriarchy and nature, natural shaman and respect of parents-children-relationships )
5 June 2017 22:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
How is it meant in fully here, would be good to read
5 June 2017 22:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
some old folk people, would place one middle upwards so luck from above would come in
5 June 2017 22:12
Margus Meigo commented on Ali Raza's photo.
Good Luck Horseshoe, position to lock a luck from the ground
5 June 2017 22:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sina Oled Äge matemaatika on ebapiisav nii kogemiseks kui ka enamuste asjade kirjeldamiseks mis elusaga seotud
4 June 2017 15:35
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
Takes one to know one
2 June 2017 21:28
Margus Meigo commented on Conscious Dimensions's link.
Sounds like good story but when a people on other side of thread, like you not then it is life long heart pain and loneliness as no new women want to accept your "destined desire" and Yourself alone will feel as without the body... as slave spirit....
2 June 2017 19:48
Margus Meigo replied to Frances Choromańska's comment.
Group: Psychic Energy and Lightworking--Unite in Peace
Caring we must keep. Essential to humans2 June 2017 18:42
Margus Meigo commented on Arshad Bangash's post.
Group: Putin’s Vow To Destroy New World Order
Under Logo of Roman Empire and A tie around the neck.. well., we need to free Vladimir from that!2 June 2017 18:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Putin’s Vow To Destroy New World Order
like bear hunters and things like that,
but might just be natural ordinary human action as well,2 June 2017 18:36
Margus Meigo commented on Arshad Bangash's post.
Group: Putin’s Vow To Destroy New World Order
These kind of things usually are planned and per-organized2 June 2017 18:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Unapologetic Vegans Group
some people do not understand, what Life means,
(yes, and there is also beings and bugs that you can protect yourself from, but even mosquitoes, fleas, lice, ticks deserve respect and to be taken outside, alive )2 June 2017 18:30
Margus Meigo commented on Angelina Joy's post.
Group: Unapologetic Vegans Group
Psüchopath mother
or someone who grow up in a really unnatural situations2 June 2017 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Just amasing, when some one try to say that Fox ENTERTAINMENT network is a Conservative... clear example, people not understanding what is conservatism, not understanding the word meaning.
Lies for on going manipulation of MASSES are not, newer, part of Conservatism as Conservatism is something,that opposes fakeness and manipulation of masses, specially with anything less then full open truthfulness
Lies for on going manipulation of MASSES are not, newer, part of Conservatism as Conservatism is something,that opposes fakeness and manipulation of masses, specially with anything less then full open truthfulness
1 June 2017 21:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Example, CBSNews .com .co
"Notes: A fake news website that looks like CBS News."
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cbsnews-com-co/
"Notes: A fake news website that looks like CBS News."
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cbsnews-com-co/
1 June 2017 21:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
List of some sources, that are used to keep illusions:
" Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for the purpose of profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact checked on a per article basis
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fake-news/
" Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for the purpose of profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact checked on a per article basis
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fake-news/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fake-news/
1 June 2017 21:48
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Need vist need invaliidid kes puutetundliku kiibi endasse paigaldanud,
1 June 2017 01:36
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
Väga suure kallaku peale ehitasid selle maja:D
1 June 2017 01:34
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Iseenesest see üks madalaima huumori tasemega klippe neil, kuid asi seegi
1 June 2017 01:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja veel, Jürilt, et:
"Aastaid tagasi hüppasin palatis kaugust kergejõustiklase Carl Lewisega. Olen ravinud Marju Lauristine ja mõnda Edgar Savisaart. Mul on au olnud kohtuda Gorbatšovi pojaga, hoolimata sellest, et tal poega tegelikult polnudki. Aga me saime suurteks sõpradeks," toob Ennet näiteid. Tõeliselt on siiski tegu olnud päriselus teist kodanikunime kandvate inimestega, kuid neile omastel põhjustel, sõltuvalt sellest, millises maailmas patsient elab, on nad mõelnud end kellekski teiseks.
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/776140/juri-ennet-olen-hupanud-voidu-carl-lewisega-tunnen-nelja-jeesust-
//
"Aastaid tagasi hüppasin palatis kaugust kergejõustiklase Carl Lewisega. Olen ravinud Marju Lauristine ja mõnda Edgar Savisaart. Mul on au olnud kohtuda Gorbatšovi pojaga, hoolimata sellest, et tal poega tegelikult polnudki. Aga me saime suurteks sõpradeks," toob Ennet näiteid. Tõeliselt on siiski tegu olnud päriselus teist kodanikunime kandvate inimestega, kuid neile omastel põhjustel, sõltuvalt sellest, millises maailmas patsient elab, on nad mõelnud end kellekski teiseks.
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/776140/juri-ennet-olen-hupanud-voidu-carl-lewisega-tunnen-nelja-jeesust-
//
1 June 2017 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
PS, head Sünnipäeva ööd ka Edgarile !
https://www.facebook.com/edgar.savisaar.77/posts/1445681058831786
https://www.facebook.com/edgar.savisaar.77/posts/1445681058831786
1 June 2017 01:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kokkuvõte, Toomas Mattsonilt:
Olin maha maganud huvitava loo ajalehes Pealinn (paberversioonis 24.4.2017), kus psühhiaater dr Jüri Ennet kirjutab Edgar Savisaare suhtes toime pandud karjuvast ülekohtust ning pakub välja, mis võiks olla Savisaarele psühhoteraapiliseks palsamiks:
1) Savisaarele peaks koos Poskaga panema nimelise pingi 20. augusti väljakule. Mõlemad on riigimehed, linnapead ja suurmehed.
2) Kuna Tallinnasse tekib pidevalt uusi tänavaid, võiks mõnele neist anda Savisaare nime.
3) Osalemine Lasnamäe valimisringkonnas valimistel ja isikumandaadi saamine - parim teraapia tema hingele ja kehale, tema valijatele ja linnarahvale.
https://www.facebook.com/toomas.mattson/posts/1306315236083381
Olin maha maganud huvitava loo ajalehes Pealinn (paberversioonis 24.4.2017), kus psühhiaater dr Jüri Ennet kirjutab Edgar Savisaare suhtes toime pandud karjuvast ülekohtust ning pakub välja, mis võiks olla Savisaarele psühhoteraapiliseks palsamiks:
1) Savisaarele peaks koos Poskaga panema nimelise pingi 20. augusti väljakule. Mõlemad on riigimehed, linnapead ja suurmehed.
2) Kuna Tallinnasse tekib pidevalt uusi tänavaid, võiks mõnele neist anda Savisaare nime.
3) Osalemine Lasnamäe valimisringkonnas valimistel ja isikumandaadi saamine - parim teraapia tema hingele ja kehale, tema valijatele ja linnarahvale.
https://www.facebook.com/toomas.mattson/posts/1306315236083381
1 June 2017 01:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Samas veel, et Jürilt:
"Minu kui hingearsti soovitused oleksid, et Savisaarele peaks koos Poskaga panema nimelise pingi 20. augusti väljakule. Mõlemad on riigimehed, linnapead ja suurmehed. Volikogu otsus selle kohta on ju olemas. Kuna Tallinnasse tekib pidevalt uusi tänavaid, võiks mõnele neist anda Savisaare nime.
Psühhoteraapiline palsam oleks Savisaarele ka osalemine Lasnamäe valimisringkonnas – see oleks hea nii Savisaarele kui ka tema valijatele. Savisaar ise ju ukselt uksele käima ei pea, ta on seda tööd juba aastaid tagasi teinud. Isikliku mandaadi saamine oleks parim teraapia tema hingele ja kehale, tema valijatele ja linnarahvale.
Heasoovlik suhtumine ja suhtlemine on oluline, et meil kõigil hästi läheks. See on psühhoteraapia nurgakivi.
Savisaare kohtuasi on käimas, on fakte, on meediatolmu, on kuritahtlikkust, on heasoovlikkust. Kohus kaalub poolt- ja vastuargumente, kohus teeb Õige otsuse.
Oluline on, et ka Õiglus sellega haakuks – need on ju olemuselt kaksikvennad."
"Tegelikult on Savisaar seda psühhotraumat talunud juba paarkümmend aastat. Seda on tekitanud pidev valmisolek halvaks meediakajastuseks, kontekstist välja rebitud kommentaaride avaldamine, avalik demoniseerimine jne. Savisaar on ju aastaid olnud meedias enim mainitud omavalitsustegelane, kahjuks on enamik neist mainimistest olnud negatiivsed.
Kui meest jälgitakse ja kontrollitakse 24/7 viimased kümmekond aastat, siis ainult enesehävitaja võiks selles situatsioonis mõnda pahategu mõtelda, veelgi enam seda kavandada. Kohtuprotsess pole veel sisuliselt alanud, kuid kallutatud meedia on Savisaare juba kõigis surmapattudes süüdi tunnistanud. Kas keegi neist ajakirjanikest, meediategelastest aga mõtleb ka sellele, kui otsus tuleb hoopis teine ja Savisaar tunnistatakse süütuks? Inimese psüühikale on aga korvamatu kahju juba sündinud "
http://www.pealinn.ee/tagid/koik/juri-ennet-savisaare-aastaid-kestnud-psuhhotrauma-kujutab-reaalset-n191399
// ( Kuid see, ei tekita rahuslastel, tema meeldimise osas intriige )
"Minu kui hingearsti soovitused oleksid, et Savisaarele peaks koos Poskaga panema nimelise pingi 20. augusti väljakule. Mõlemad on riigimehed, linnapead ja suurmehed. Volikogu otsus selle kohta on ju olemas. Kuna Tallinnasse tekib pidevalt uusi tänavaid, võiks mõnele neist anda Savisaare nime.
Psühhoteraapiline palsam oleks Savisaarele ka osalemine Lasnamäe valimisringkonnas – see oleks hea nii Savisaarele kui ka tema valijatele. Savisaar ise ju ukselt uksele käima ei pea, ta on seda tööd juba aastaid tagasi teinud. Isikliku mandaadi saamine oleks parim teraapia tema hingele ja kehale, tema valijatele ja linnarahvale.
Heasoovlik suhtumine ja suhtlemine on oluline, et meil kõigil hästi läheks. See on psühhoteraapia nurgakivi.
Savisaare kohtuasi on käimas, on fakte, on meediatolmu, on kuritahtlikkust, on heasoovlikkust. Kohus kaalub poolt- ja vastuargumente, kohus teeb Õige otsuse.
Oluline on, et ka Õiglus sellega haakuks – need on ju olemuselt kaksikvennad."
"Tegelikult on Savisaar seda psühhotraumat talunud juba paarkümmend aastat. Seda on tekitanud pidev valmisolek halvaks meediakajastuseks, kontekstist välja rebitud kommentaaride avaldamine, avalik demoniseerimine jne. Savisaar on ju aastaid olnud meedias enim mainitud omavalitsustegelane, kahjuks on enamik neist mainimistest olnud negatiivsed.
Kui meest jälgitakse ja kontrollitakse 24/7 viimased kümmekond aastat, siis ainult enesehävitaja võiks selles situatsioonis mõnda pahategu mõtelda, veelgi enam seda kavandada. Kohtuprotsess pole veel sisuliselt alanud, kuid kallutatud meedia on Savisaare juba kõigis surmapattudes süüdi tunnistanud. Kas keegi neist ajakirjanikest, meediategelastest aga mõtleb ka sellele, kui otsus tuleb hoopis teine ja Savisaar tunnistatakse süütuks? Inimese psüühikale on aga korvamatu kahju juba sündinud "
http://www.pealinn.ee/tagid/koik/juri-ennet-savisaare-aastaid-kestnud-psuhhotrauma-kujutab-reaalset-n191399
// ( Kuid see, ei tekita rahuslastel, tema meeldimise osas intriige )
http://www.pealinn.ee/tagid/koik/juri-ennet-savisaare-aastaid-kestnud-psuhhotrauma-kujutab-reaalset-n191399
1 June 2017 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Anti Ostrov:
"Ja seadus juba kaitseb niigi kõikide julgeolekut võrdselt. Ei ole vaja ära rikkuda ammu ennem inimest olnud loodusseadusest ja evolutsioonist tulenevat inimolendi kahesoolisuse tähendust - inimolend on kahesooline olend oma ehituselt kes koosneb mehest ja naisest ja ei ole ühesooline ega sooneutraalne. Ei ole vaja meelevaldselt ümber tähendada tegelikkust ja inimene ei ole Looja kes suudab luua tegelikkust ennast mittemillegist !
Kui, inimliigi homodest osa, on loomariigi mingite homo suhete vajadustega võrreldes niipalju edasi aretunud, et vajavad endi, täiesti normaalseks toimimiseks ka "pesa ja poegi", ehk abielu ja lapsi, on tegemist tõsise rikutuse märgiga inimliigis. Ehk siis kui see kõrvalekalle homoks, vajabki juba tegelikult ka, samatähenduslikku perekonda ja lapsi nagu heterod, oleks see nagu looduses ilmnema hakkav osade loomade käitumine, milles omasoolised "hundid kaevavad uru ja toovad sinna kutsikad". Loodus seda ilmneda ei lase, kuid paraku jah, pole inimliigile looduse poolt puhastajat ja reguleerijat ja nii saab ta lubada endi kõrvalekalletel aretuda ka nii kõrvale, et võib aja jooksul rikkuda ka kogu liigi.
Riikides kus peale homoabielude samatähenduslikuks seadustamise heteroabieludega, on hakatud sellist samatähenduslikust juurutama ka juba alates lasteaedadest, on inimliigi ärarikkumise suund tugevalt ette võetud. "Eesmärgiks" on, et kui kõrvalekalde jaoks on tema kõrvalekalle paratamatu normaalsus, mille piiramine tähendab juba sellise normaalsuse piiramist, siis ongi kõrvalekaldest saanud normaalsus ja siis on ka loogiline, et tegelik normaalsus tähendab siis kõrvalekallet, mida tuleb vajadusel piirata, diagnoosida või karistada.
"Ja seadus juba kaitseb niigi kõikide julgeolekut võrdselt. Ei ole vaja ära rikkuda ammu ennem inimest olnud loodusseadusest ja evolutsioonist tulenevat inimolendi kahesoolisuse tähendust - inimolend on kahesooline olend oma ehituselt kes koosneb mehest ja naisest ja ei ole ühesooline ega sooneutraalne. Ei ole vaja meelevaldselt ümber tähendada tegelikkust ja inimene ei ole Looja kes suudab luua tegelikkust ennast mittemillegist !
Kui, inimliigi homodest osa, on loomariigi mingite homo suhete vajadustega võrreldes niipalju edasi aretunud, et vajavad endi, täiesti normaalseks toimimiseks ka "pesa ja poegi", ehk abielu ja lapsi, on tegemist tõsise rikutuse märgiga inimliigis. Ehk siis kui see kõrvalekalle homoks, vajabki juba tegelikult ka, samatähenduslikku perekonda ja lapsi nagu heterod, oleks see nagu looduses ilmnema hakkav osade loomade käitumine, milles omasoolised "hundid kaevavad uru ja toovad sinna kutsikad". Loodus seda ilmneda ei lase, kuid paraku jah, pole inimliigile looduse poolt puhastajat ja reguleerijat ja nii saab ta lubada endi kõrvalekalletel aretuda ka nii kõrvale, et võib aja jooksul rikkuda ka kogu liigi.
Riikides kus peale homoabielude samatähenduslikuks seadustamise heteroabieludega, on hakatud sellist samatähenduslikust juurutama ka juba alates lasteaedadest, on inimliigi ärarikkumise suund tugevalt ette võetud. "Eesmärgiks" on, et kui kõrvalekalde jaoks on tema kõrvalekalle paratamatu normaalsus, mille piiramine tähendab juba sellise normaalsuse piiramist, siis ongi kõrvalekaldest saanud normaalsus ja siis on ka loogiline, et tegelik normaalsus tähendab siis kõrvalekallet, mida tuleb vajadusel piirata, diagnoosida või karistada.
1 June 2017 01:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Alustades, rahvuslase Heiki Hermanniga:
24.11.2015 14:21
no see Ennet on ka ise salapede ja teeb oma margi täis, kangutades üles tolmu alt vanad primitiivsed argumendid...
iga inimene on tegelikult sündides kas bi ehk homoseksuaalne...
nii on ka taime ja loomariigis... hiljem inimeste ja loomade puhul tekitatakse balans hormoonidega, kuid ka geneetilise koodiga...
Ennet ei kõlba isegi mitte loomatohtriks! ja psühhiaater vajab enamuses alati ise abi... enamikse maades antaks ta koheselt kohtu alla ja tagndataks töölt!...
24.11.2015 14:32
psühhiaater, kes ise vajab abi!
millal ta viimati kontrollis käis?
dr Ennet teeb oma margi täis, kangutades üles tolmu alt,
vanad primitiivsed inkvisitsiooni aegsed ohtlikud argumendid...
iga inimene on tegelikult sündides kas bi ehk homoseksuaalne...
nii on ka taime ja loomariigis... hiljem inimeste ja loomade puhul tekitatakse balans hormoonidega, kuid ka geneetilise koodiga...
samuti mängib suuresti rolli välisfaktorid ja reeglid, millega aju kaudu
surutakse maha teatud looduse poolt valmistatut...
nii näiteks mängib olulist rolli religioon, kultuur, seadused ja muu...
ühiskonnad mis on eelarvamustest vabad, seal on ka inimese keha
vabam ja kompleksidetta... nii on näiteks aafrikas teatud suguharudes
tavaline, et mehed on biseksuaalsed... ka hiinas , kus taoism ei börsi
inimest, on loomulik, et enamus on biseksuaalsed...
Ennet ei kõlba isegi mitte loomatohtriks! ja psühhiaater vajab enamuses alati ise abi...
enamikes maades antaks ta koheselt kohtu alla ja tagandataks töölt!...
https://www.facebook.com/heiki.herman
24.11.2015 14:21
no see Ennet on ka ise salapede ja teeb oma margi täis, kangutades üles tolmu alt vanad primitiivsed argumendid...
iga inimene on tegelikult sündides kas bi ehk homoseksuaalne...
nii on ka taime ja loomariigis... hiljem inimeste ja loomade puhul tekitatakse balans hormoonidega, kuid ka geneetilise koodiga...
Ennet ei kõlba isegi mitte loomatohtriks! ja psühhiaater vajab enamuses alati ise abi... enamikse maades antaks ta koheselt kohtu alla ja tagndataks töölt!...
24.11.2015 14:32
psühhiaater, kes ise vajab abi!
millal ta viimati kontrollis käis?
dr Ennet teeb oma margi täis, kangutades üles tolmu alt,
vanad primitiivsed inkvisitsiooni aegsed ohtlikud argumendid...
iga inimene on tegelikult sündides kas bi ehk homoseksuaalne...
nii on ka taime ja loomariigis... hiljem inimeste ja loomade puhul tekitatakse balans hormoonidega, kuid ka geneetilise koodiga...
samuti mängib suuresti rolli välisfaktorid ja reeglid, millega aju kaudu
surutakse maha teatud looduse poolt valmistatut...
nii näiteks mängib olulist rolli religioon, kultuur, seadused ja muu...
ühiskonnad mis on eelarvamustest vabad, seal on ka inimese keha
vabam ja kompleksidetta... nii on näiteks aafrikas teatud suguharudes
tavaline, et mehed on biseksuaalsed... ka hiinas , kus taoism ei börsi
inimest, on loomulik, et enamus on biseksuaalsed...
Ennet ei kõlba isegi mitte loomatohtriks! ja psühhiaater vajab enamuses alati ise abi...
enamikes maades antaks ta koheselt kohtu alla ja tagandataks töölt!...
https://www.facebook.com/heiki.herman
1 June 2017 00:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aare Tamm kahjuks küll, kuid küll midagi targemat välja mõeldakse, kui ei... siis pole targemad ja no...
1 June 2017 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja veel, et
koos pea 400 anonüümse kommentaariga:
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/ennet-homoseksuaalsus-on-halve?id=20545636&com=1®=1&no=0&s=1
Psühhiaater Jüri Ennet on tervishoiuameti järelevalveosakonna juhataja Peeter Mardnaga ühel arvamusel, et homoseksuaalsus on hälve, seksuaalobjekti valiku häire.
Ennet ütles, et inimesel võib olla eelsoodumus homoseksuaalsuseks, kuid selle avaldumist võivad mõjutada ümbritsev keskkond, läbielatud kogemused, kasvu- ja kasvatustingimused, hoiakud ja muu, vahendab ERR Uudised.
Enneti sõnul on inimkonnas nii loodud, et kahe inimese vahekorrast saadakse järglasi ja see on oluline. "See, mida kaks inimest n-ö tagakambris toimetavad, on kindlasti nende oma asi, kuid seda ei tohi afišeerida, propageerida ja võimendada."
Enneti sõnul peaks kodu ja koolisüsteem kasvatama poisse isadeks ja tüdrukuid emadeks. "Nii on ühiskond jätkusuutlik. Üksteisemõistminegi on sealjuures vajalik."
koos pea 400 anonüümse kommentaariga:
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/ennet-homoseksuaalsus-on-halve?id=20545636&com=1®=1&no=0&s=1
Psühhiaater Jüri Ennet on tervishoiuameti järelevalveosakonna juhataja Peeter Mardnaga ühel arvamusel, et homoseksuaalsus on hälve, seksuaalobjekti valiku häire.
Ennet ütles, et inimesel võib olla eelsoodumus homoseksuaalsuseks, kuid selle avaldumist võivad mõjutada ümbritsev keskkond, läbielatud kogemused, kasvu- ja kasvatustingimused, hoiakud ja muu, vahendab ERR Uudised.
Enneti sõnul on inimkonnas nii loodud, et kahe inimese vahekorrast saadakse järglasi ja see on oluline. "See, mida kaks inimest n-ö tagakambris toimetavad, on kindlasti nende oma asi, kuid seda ei tohi afišeerida, propageerida ja võimendada."
Enneti sõnul peaks kodu ja koolisüsteem kasvatama poisse isadeks ja tüdrukuid emadeks. "Nii on ühiskond jätkusuutlik. Üksteisemõistminegi on sealjuures vajalik."
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/ennet-homoseksuaalsus-on-halve?id=20545636&com=1®=1&no=0&s=1
1 June 2017 00:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Malle Pärna seinalt:
Aastal 2008 lubati avalikult väljendada veel selliseid mõtteid:
"Psühhiaater Jüri Ennet on tervishoiuameti järelevalveosakonna juhataja Peeter Mardnaga ühel arvamusel, et homoseksuaalsus on hälve, seksuaalobjekti valiku häire.
Ennet ütles, et inimesel võib olla eelsoodumus homoseksuaalsuseks, kuid selle avaldumist võivad mõjutada ümbritsev keskkond, läbielatud kogemused, kasvu- ja kasvatustingimused, hoiakud ja muu, vahendab ERR Uudised.
Enneti sõnul on inimkonnas nii loodud, et kahe inimese vahekorrast saadakse järglasi ja see on oluline. "See, mida kaks inimest n-ö tagakambris toimetavad, on kindlasti nende oma asi, kuid seda ei tohi afišeerida, propageerida ja võimendada."
Enneti sõnul peaks kodu ja koolisüsteem kasvatama poisse isadeks ja tüdrukuid emadeks. "Nii on ühiskond jätkusuutlik. Üksteisemõistminegi on sealjuures vajalik.""
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1837014613215328&id=1529351677314958
Aastal 2008 lubati avalikult väljendada veel selliseid mõtteid:
"Psühhiaater Jüri Ennet on tervishoiuameti järelevalveosakonna juhataja Peeter Mardnaga ühel arvamusel, et homoseksuaalsus on hälve, seksuaalobjekti valiku häire.
Ennet ütles, et inimesel võib olla eelsoodumus homoseksuaalsuseks, kuid selle avaldumist võivad mõjutada ümbritsev keskkond, läbielatud kogemused, kasvu- ja kasvatustingimused, hoiakud ja muu, vahendab ERR Uudised.
Enneti sõnul on inimkonnas nii loodud, et kahe inimese vahekorrast saadakse järglasi ja see on oluline. "See, mida kaks inimest n-ö tagakambris toimetavad, on kindlasti nende oma asi, kuid seda ei tohi afišeerida, propageerida ja võimendada."
Enneti sõnul peaks kodu ja koolisüsteem kasvatama poisse isadeks ja tüdrukuid emadeks. "Nii on ühiskond jätkusuutlik. Üksteisemõistminegi on sealjuures vajalik.""
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1837014613215328&id=1529351677314958
1 June 2017 00:49
Margus Meigo commented on Helena-Reet Ennet's post.
Ma olen täielik Juutluse kaitsja, kuid ikka siseruumides, ma ütleks inimestele, et viisakusest tuleb müts peast ära võtta.
1 June 2017 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on Aare Tamm's post.
meil endal enamus kauplused koosnevad 25% osas alkoholist, telekast lubame kodumaalgi mängida labast saasta, mehed pole ikka arusaanud veel, et naised on kõrgeimad ja muretseme siin euroopa mosseede pärast, tere tali,
1 June 2017 00:27
Margus Meigo commented on Aare Tamm's post.
Kui keegi rahvuslikult päriselt tark oleks, siis ehitaks ta moshee ise Eestisse valitud õiget islami gurudega eesrinnas kes pole suurpoliitika ja punakommarite kontrolli all veel, soovitavalt puust, et ilus ja põletatav oleks kui vaja,
siis oleks meil mitmesugune moraalne käsi selles mida ja kuidas ja kes tegema hakkab,
see mis saab siis, kui selle võimaluse maha magame (kui juba lisaks sellele moshee asehoonele mis Ülemistes, neil siin mingi muu ametlik hoone valmis, mis tuleb nagunii, lõppude lõpuks, piisab kui üks sheik niite tõmbab ainult kelle mingi loll netikommetaar välja vihastab).
Kui aga üks ees ja olemas, mis tehtud meie moodi ja meie vaimsuse varjus, siis võimalik seda kõike kultuuriliselt ja ususliselt suunata.
Siin hakata unistama, et saad sellist asja keelata, on selline lapselik jutt reaalsuse ees, et ei hakka seda isegi arutama, sest see on utoopiline fantaasia lihtsalt.
Tuleb vaadata kuidas ja mida oma kultuuri säilitamise kasuks pöörata, mitte siin tolmu asjata üles keerutada enne seda kui adekvaatset usulist kultuurilist kaitseplaani mis moslmeitele arusaadav (mingile salgale) oleks.
Nagu on ka omad venelased ja need kes punased (ja omad Eestlased ja need kes siin lipsudega ringi jooksevad) on ka omad moslemid kes austavad sügavamalt kõike kui nood eelmised, lipsuga keda mainitud sai.
Kui neid ei oska organiseerida usaldusega, heatahlikult õigele poolele manipuleerida, kinnitada.. ja siin sama IQ tasemel käituda kui "juudi" vastased, kes kõike ühes värvis näevad mida punapropakandistid pähe söötnud natsi kestas, siis võib kindel olla, et kui hilja juba on, siis saab hilja olema ja neid vigu enam parandada naljalt ei saa, sest ühelgil maal ilma sõjata, pole veel moseesi sahaga ümber lükatud minuteada.
Õhku vast on ainult mõned lennanud. Kuid me ei saa isegi rail Baltiku inimestele selgeks tehtud, et kivid rööbastele veeretame ja süütepudelitega metsavahelt sõidu kuumaks teeme kui meile see tee ei meeldi... mis siis siin loota, et miljardilise, ühe ajaloo võimsama ja mitmekesisema, mitmekülgselt sügava jõu vastu siin erakonnakeste tasemel, võõraste tehtud riigis hakkama peaksime saama.
Tuleb ikka suts ette mõelda, 20 aastat on lähitulevik.
siis oleks meil mitmesugune moraalne käsi selles mida ja kuidas ja kes tegema hakkab,
see mis saab siis, kui selle võimaluse maha magame (kui juba lisaks sellele moshee asehoonele mis Ülemistes, neil siin mingi muu ametlik hoone valmis, mis tuleb nagunii, lõppude lõpuks, piisab kui üks sheik niite tõmbab ainult kelle mingi loll netikommetaar välja vihastab).
Kui aga üks ees ja olemas, mis tehtud meie moodi ja meie vaimsuse varjus, siis võimalik seda kõike kultuuriliselt ja ususliselt suunata.
Siin hakata unistama, et saad sellist asja keelata, on selline lapselik jutt reaalsuse ees, et ei hakka seda isegi arutama, sest see on utoopiline fantaasia lihtsalt.
Tuleb vaadata kuidas ja mida oma kultuuri säilitamise kasuks pöörata, mitte siin tolmu asjata üles keerutada enne seda kui adekvaatset usulist kultuurilist kaitseplaani mis moslmeitele arusaadav (mingile salgale) oleks.
Nagu on ka omad venelased ja need kes punased (ja omad Eestlased ja need kes siin lipsudega ringi jooksevad) on ka omad moslemid kes austavad sügavamalt kõike kui nood eelmised, lipsuga keda mainitud sai.
Kui neid ei oska organiseerida usaldusega, heatahlikult õigele poolele manipuleerida, kinnitada.. ja siin sama IQ tasemel käituda kui "juudi" vastased, kes kõike ühes värvis näevad mida punapropakandistid pähe söötnud natsi kestas, siis võib kindel olla, et kui hilja juba on, siis saab hilja olema ja neid vigu enam parandada naljalt ei saa, sest ühelgil maal ilma sõjata, pole veel moseesi sahaga ümber lükatud minuteada.
Õhku vast on ainult mõned lennanud. Kuid me ei saa isegi rail Baltiku inimestele selgeks tehtud, et kivid rööbastele veeretame ja süütepudelitega metsavahelt sõidu kuumaks teeme kui meile see tee ei meeldi... mis siis siin loota, et miljardilise, ühe ajaloo võimsama ja mitmekesisema, mitmekülgselt sügava jõu vastu siin erakonnakeste tasemel, võõraste tehtud riigis hakkama peaksime saama.
Tuleb ikka suts ette mõelda, 20 aastat on lähitulevik.
1 June 2017 00:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
scientoloogidel jällegi hoopis müürid, et seestpoolt väljapoole inimesed ei jookseks, (takistus traat võred on seestpoolt üleronismist takistavad)
1 June 2017 00:05
Margus Meigo commented on Aare Tamm's post.
Nu eks need kohalike tarvis :p
1 June 2017 00:04
Margus Meigo commented on Aare Tamm's post.
Innovaatiline ja väga ideaalne plaan, nende endi raha kelle vastu, siinkohal tuleb ainult kiita tegijat, kui vaadata teisest vaatevinklist
1 June 2017 00:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
greek-rome culture is pederasty society, on the eyes of country man,
31 May 2017 23:37
Margus Meigo commented on Culture Wars's photo.
Rome is the last culture i would ever honor, as it is common understanding from where the communist and fascist originate
31 May 2017 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to Lauri Takk's comment.
st.,saan,
31 May 2017 23:06
Margus Meigo replied to Lauri Takk's comment.
Kati Tõnismäe ma seda usku, et naisele pühendudes saab maailma korda, kui inimesed sama usku
31 May 2017 22:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mul endal ammu arusaam olnud, et kui loodusest välja viiakse (sool)... ja enamuses looduses, marjades, taimedes mida vajame, seda ei sisalda, siis enamasti ka tõenäosemalt reaalselt seda vaja pole,
on edukaid sisemaal elavaid elajaid kes üldse soolakivi ei saa lakkuda, ja nagu elavad igasuguse mureta, ilma, et aju koost langeks,..
ka ise, mitmeid kuusi, söönud soolavaba toitusi, midagi ei juhtunud, tunded pigem jäid puhtamaks pigem vast kuid mitme asja koosmõjul muidugi see mis väljapaistab pole hea, kuid oleks, kui ka muud puudujäägid saaks likvideeritud (mis kindlasti pole kloori, soola puudusest. )
(väga minimaalseid toitusi, nagu ainult putru vms)
on edukaid sisemaal elavaid elajaid kes üldse soolakivi ei saa lakkuda, ja nagu elavad igasuguse mureta, ilma, et aju koost langeks,..
ka ise, mitmeid kuusi, söönud soolavaba toitusi, midagi ei juhtunud, tunded pigem jäid puhtamaks pigem vast kuid mitme asja koosmõjul muidugi see mis väljapaistab pole hea, kuid oleks, kui ka muud puudujäägid saaks likvideeritud (mis kindlasti pole kloori, soola puudusest. )
(väga minimaalseid toitusi, nagu ainult putru vms)
31 May 2017 20:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// amazing charts in there
Chlorine is present in food and our body almost entirely in the form of chloride. Chloride is important in maintaining water balance, and is an essential component of gastric juice. We get our supplies of chlorine from food mainly in the form of sodium chloride (salt).
Dietary deficiency of chlorine is rare and is only likely to occur if you have excessive losses from your body. This can result from prolonged vomiting, diarrhoea or profuse sweating. If you are on a severe sodium-restricted diet it may be necessary to obtain chlorine from other sources.
CHLORINE INTAKE
There is no recommended dietary intake for chlorine in Australia.
For the average adult an estimated safe and adequate amount of chlorine is closely related to that for sodium and is in the range of 1700 to 5100 milligrams of chlorine per day. To keep to this level, most of us would need to reduce the amount of salt used in cooking or added at the table. Additionally, highly salted foods should be avoided
http://apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/info/books-phds/books/foodfacts/html/data/data5h.html
http://apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/info/books-phds/books/foodfacts/html/maintext/maintext-fs.html
Chlorine is present in food and our body almost entirely in the form of chloride. Chloride is important in maintaining water balance, and is an essential component of gastric juice. We get our supplies of chlorine from food mainly in the form of sodium chloride (salt).
Dietary deficiency of chlorine is rare and is only likely to occur if you have excessive losses from your body. This can result from prolonged vomiting, diarrhoea or profuse sweating. If you are on a severe sodium-restricted diet it may be necessary to obtain chlorine from other sources.
CHLORINE INTAKE
There is no recommended dietary intake for chlorine in Australia.
For the average adult an estimated safe and adequate amount of chlorine is closely related to that for sodium and is in the range of 1700 to 5100 milligrams of chlorine per day. To keep to this level, most of us would need to reduce the amount of salt used in cooking or added at the table. Additionally, highly salted foods should be avoided
http://apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/info/books-phds/books/foodfacts/html/data/data5h.html
http://apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/info/books-phds/books/foodfacts/html/maintext/maintext-fs.html
http://apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/info/books-phds/books/foodfacts/html/data/data5h.html
31 May 2017 20:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Senikaua kui aga ühiskond Greeka-Rooma pede haridusel ja mõttemaailmal, jumalavastasel kultuurilisel pinnal püsib,
pole nendest süsteemidest sündinud inimestest Väga suurt lootust oodata, kuigi nad enamus võivad lõputult heatahtlikud või targad endisilmis olla siis suurem osa käitub selle piires mis neil on lubatud teada, alluvad sisseprogrameeritud piiridele, orjastamise tarvis uskuma pantud teamdistele, ning ei oma mingit misjooni reaalselt maailma ehitamisel suuremas mastaabis kui hingetute karpmajade püstitamine.
Lihtsalt mõtlemise tase juba on hoopis midagi muud, kui päris naturaalsetel inimestel, kes saab aru, et loodus on Loodud
Loodud Sinule aitamiseks, kasvamiseks, õppimiseks ... kuid Sina siin selle kõrval, väike oluline osa ainult, enne Sind oli ja aitad, et peale Sind oleks. Ei nõua muud kui õiglust, ausust, puhtust ja ei looda muud, kui, et Sinust teistele kasu on
(paradiisid ja uuesti sünnid, ka meie oma tegevusega seotud kuid seda ei tohiks teha oma meeltes garantiiks, et siin teeme midagi head selleks, et siis ise uuesti midagi paremat saaks... teed ikka selleks, et seda vaja (TEISTELE), mitte, et ise saaks, suures plaanis nagunii enamusi asju mida teed teistele õigesti saad/teed ka endale)
pole nendest süsteemidest sündinud inimestest Väga suurt lootust oodata, kuigi nad enamus võivad lõputult heatahtlikud või targad endisilmis olla siis suurem osa käitub selle piires mis neil on lubatud teada, alluvad sisseprogrameeritud piiridele, orjastamise tarvis uskuma pantud teamdistele, ning ei oma mingit misjooni reaalselt maailma ehitamisel suuremas mastaabis kui hingetute karpmajade püstitamine.
Lihtsalt mõtlemise tase juba on hoopis midagi muud, kui päris naturaalsetel inimestel, kes saab aru, et loodus on Loodud
Loodud Sinule aitamiseks, kasvamiseks, õppimiseks ... kuid Sina siin selle kõrval, väike oluline osa ainult, enne Sind oli ja aitad, et peale Sind oleks. Ei nõua muud kui õiglust, ausust, puhtust ja ei looda muud, kui, et Sinust teistele kasu on
(paradiisid ja uuesti sünnid, ka meie oma tegevusega seotud kuid seda ei tohiks teha oma meeltes garantiiks, et siin teeme midagi head selleks, et siis ise uuesti midagi paremat saaks... teed ikka selleks, et seda vaja (TEISTELE), mitte, et ise saaks, suures plaanis nagunii enamusi asju mida teed teistele õigesti saad/teed ka endale)
31 May 2017 20:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja see on ka elementaarne, et kõike mõelda ja teha ei tohi,
see väga elementaarne, et seda peab ühiskond ka õpetama kuidas sobib mõelda ja kuidas ei sobi.
Kes seda ei tee, ei hooli inimesest, ei oma arusaama või on muidu madalama arenguga kahe eelmise asja vahel või lihtsalt puhtast kurjusest ning see tema töö ja agenda, ajada inimese ja looduse vastast asja.
Kui keegi tahab teha erali alkoholi poe, nu ma otseselt selle kallal veel ei karjuks senikaua kui AUS ja mõistlik informatsioon pidevalt Riigi ja muude firmade poolt rahvani toodud on, koos ülejäänud looduse ja inimeelte austamisega.
Peab olema ka keskvõrk, ja kohalikud rakud, kuhu kohe saab teavitada, kui alkoholist inimene teistele vaevaks on ja ebanormaalselt käituma hakkab,
Meil muidugi pole aga usaldusväärset organit, ega kohalikku kultuurigi, kes tava koduarmastuse pouuduses peredele sundkorras abi pakuksid, kui vaja oleks.
(kui keegi pereliikmest, naabrist tunneb, et tal midagi valesti või kellegil, siis peab saama kutsuda tegelased, kes vaataksid üle inimese kes oma pere armastada ei oska, usulised kalduvused, arusaamad, toidumenüü, lastakse vaimutarkadel kombata ja psüholoogidel, psühiaatril ka lõpuks üle vaadata kui tarvis...
//sedasi toimides paar generatsiooni saab kogukonnad jalule, nii, et nad ennast ise reguleerida oskaksid, tabu peaks olema ainult see mis kindlalt ebakasulik on.
peab olema normaalses kogukonnas absoluutne arusaam, millised käitumised perekonnas ei ole normaalsed, kui need puuduvad, siis laguneb u. mõnesaja aastaga, suuremad kohad suts pikema ajaga pea täielikult. Sellisteks, kellel täielik austus, arusaam ja mõtlemine puudub selles osas, miks ta siin planeedil on ja kuidas siin toimima peab, meeletult suurte valikute hulgas )
(loomulikult, kui just silmaga nähtav probleem pole, tuleb samamoodi ka üleuurida seda, kes välja kutsus)
see väga elementaarne, et seda peab ühiskond ka õpetama kuidas sobib mõelda ja kuidas ei sobi.
Kes seda ei tee, ei hooli inimesest, ei oma arusaama või on muidu madalama arenguga kahe eelmise asja vahel või lihtsalt puhtast kurjusest ning see tema töö ja agenda, ajada inimese ja looduse vastast asja.
Kui keegi tahab teha erali alkoholi poe, nu ma otseselt selle kallal veel ei karjuks senikaua kui AUS ja mõistlik informatsioon pidevalt Riigi ja muude firmade poolt rahvani toodud on, koos ülejäänud looduse ja inimeelte austamisega.
Peab olema ka keskvõrk, ja kohalikud rakud, kuhu kohe saab teavitada, kui alkoholist inimene teistele vaevaks on ja ebanormaalselt käituma hakkab,
Meil muidugi pole aga usaldusväärset organit, ega kohalikku kultuurigi, kes tava koduarmastuse pouuduses peredele sundkorras abi pakuksid, kui vaja oleks.
(kui keegi pereliikmest, naabrist tunneb, et tal midagi valesti või kellegil, siis peab saama kutsuda tegelased, kes vaataksid üle inimese kes oma pere armastada ei oska, usulised kalduvused, arusaamad, toidumenüü, lastakse vaimutarkadel kombata ja psüholoogidel, psühiaatril ka lõpuks üle vaadata kui tarvis...
//sedasi toimides paar generatsiooni saab kogukonnad jalule, nii, et nad ennast ise reguleerida oskaksid, tabu peaks olema ainult see mis kindlalt ebakasulik on.
peab olema normaalses kogukonnas absoluutne arusaam, millised käitumised perekonnas ei ole normaalsed, kui need puuduvad, siis laguneb u. mõnesaja aastaga, suuremad kohad suts pikema ajaga pea täielikult. Sellisteks, kellel täielik austus, arusaam ja mõtlemine puudub selles osas, miks ta siin planeedil on ja kuidas siin toimima peab, meeletult suurte valikute hulgas )
(loomulikult, kui just silmaga nähtav probleem pole, tuleb samamoodi ka üleuurida seda, kes välja kutsus)
31 May 2017 20:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tanel Rank Keelta tuleb ebanormaalsus, elementaarne,
MItte riiklikult promoda ebanormaalsusi : see on elementaarne.
Ja see, et on TÄIESTI ebanormaalne, et mõne poe joogi lettidest on üle 50% alkohol ja täiesti tarbetud pettujookidest magusjoogid, et see ebanormaalne on, peaks igale normaalsele inimesele elementaarne olema.
MItte riiklikult promoda ebanormaalsusi : see on elementaarne.
Ja see, et on TÄIESTI ebanormaalne, et mõne poe joogi lettidest on üle 50% alkohol ja täiesti tarbetud pettujookidest magusjoogid, et see ebanormaalne on, peaks igale normaalsele inimesele elementaarne olema.
31 May 2017 20:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu jah, minupärast inimesed ajagu puskareid ja veine jamida iganes.
Kui kaupmehe kauba tegija pihta kaebusi või omakohut tuleb, siis ka see on normaalne.
Kui kaupmehe kauba tegija pihta kaebusi või omakohut tuleb, siis ka see on normaalne.
31 May 2017 20:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ärimiselt debiilne on keelata inimestel õlleankruid väljarentida jms,
nagu enamus inimesed planeedil oleks alaarenguga lapsed, keda siis lipsumehed mööda oont juhendama peavad.
Kuid toidupoodidest, peaks ilma igasuguse argumendita, 100% alkohol ja eriti suits kaduma va. vast väike osa mida kasutatakse toidutegemisel, kuid see juba eraldi, peenutsejate lett.
Äärmiselt haiglane on riigil, siis keelata inimestel puskari ajamise, ja samal ajal koorivad enesehävitusliku tegevuse pealt raha,
umbes nagu kari haigeid ja siis nende haiguse pealt, selleasemel, et haigust ära hoida, planeerid, kuidas selle pealt teenida saaks,
Kui alatu see on
nagu enamus inimesed planeedil oleks alaarenguga lapsed, keda siis lipsumehed mööda oont juhendama peavad.
Kuid toidupoodidest, peaks ilma igasuguse argumendita, 100% alkohol ja eriti suits kaduma va. vast väike osa mida kasutatakse toidutegemisel, kuid see juba eraldi, peenutsejate lett.
Äärmiselt haiglane on riigil, siis keelata inimestel puskari ajamise, ja samal ajal koorivad enesehävitusliku tegevuse pealt raha,
umbes nagu kari haigeid ja siis nende haiguse pealt, selleasemel, et haigust ära hoida, planeerid, kuidas selle pealt teenida saaks,
Kui alatu see on
31 May 2017 20:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Õige jah,
See oleks normaalne, kes ise soovib ennast mürgitada, las teeb seda.
Viimased paarsada aastat eriti aktiivselt inimesi alkoholihaigusesse surutud. Sellel vaimsed tagamad tegelikult, (siissaavad lisaks maistele väänustamistele ligi me meeltele muud vibratsioonid ja aksepteerimised nagu esoteerikud vist ütleks, kuid see pole selle grupi teema, nimi ju ka "spirit" viinal, mitte ilmaaaegu..)
Väga erinev on kommunistide poolt meelega vastupidise psüholoogia tarvis sundkeelustamine ja MITTE pakkumine.
Kommunistid keelustasid, sest neil oli vaja, et tulevikus seda keegi ei saaks keelustada.
Mõtle ise, kui alkoholi oli kommunistide üks põhilisi relvi mida peale SURUTI ja seda läbi ajaloo rooma impeerium kasutanud masside kontrolliks ja hävitamiseks, miks nad seda siis PÄRISELT keelustama pidid ?
See oleks normaalne, kes ise soovib ennast mürgitada, las teeb seda.
Viimased paarsada aastat eriti aktiivselt inimesi alkoholihaigusesse surutud. Sellel vaimsed tagamad tegelikult, (siissaavad lisaks maistele väänustamistele ligi me meeltele muud vibratsioonid ja aksepteerimised nagu esoteerikud vist ütleks, kuid see pole selle grupi teema, nimi ju ka "spirit" viinal, mitte ilmaaaegu..)
Väga erinev on kommunistide poolt meelega vastupidise psüholoogia tarvis sundkeelustamine ja MITTE pakkumine.
Kommunistid keelustasid, sest neil oli vaja, et tulevikus seda keegi ei saaks keelustada.
Mõtle ise, kui alkoholi oli kommunistide üks põhilisi relvi mida peale SURUTI ja seda läbi ajaloo rooma impeerium kasutanud masside kontrolliks ja hävitamiseks, miks nad seda siis PÄRISELT keelustama pidid ?
31 May 2017 19:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The usual form of fluorine in our bodies is fluoride. Populations with a low intake of fluoride (about 1.2 milligrams per day for adults) have more dental decay (cariesFind out more about this term) than those with a higher intake (3.5 to 4.5 milligrams per day for adults). The fluoridation of public water supplies in low fluoride areas has significantly reduced decay in these areas. The fluoride content of a water supply is often described by the term 'parts per million' (ppm). 1 ppm = 0.1 milligram per 100 millilitres. About 1 ppm seems to be the optimal level of fluoride in the water supply; a litre of such water would provide 1 milligram of fluoride. At 2 ppm, mottling of tooth enamel may occur. The condition of 'fluorosis' or excessive deposition of fluoride in bones, with associated skeleton deformities, is only present after prolonged consumption of 20 to 80 milligrams of fluoride per day.
FLUORIDE INTAKE
The intake of fluoride, at the higher end of the safe range, has also been associated with reduced os
(milligrams per 100 grams of food or beverage)
Crude sea salt 3.5-5.5
Fish and seafood 0.5-1
Fluoridated water 0.1
Tea 0.05-0.2
Note: 1 ml of beverage weighs approximately 1 gram
http://apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/info/books-phds/books/foodfacts/html/data/data5l.html
FLUORIDE INTAKE
The intake of fluoride, at the higher end of the safe range, has also been associated with reduced os
(milligrams per 100 grams of food or beverage)
Crude sea salt 3.5-5.5
Fish and seafood 0.5-1
Fluoridated water 0.1
Tea 0.05-0.2
Note: 1 ml of beverage weighs approximately 1 gram
http://apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/info/books-phds/books/foodfacts/html/data/data5l.html
http://apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/info/books-phds/books/foodfacts/html/data/data5l.html
31 May 2017 19:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Food Sources of Fluorine
"Fluorine or Fluoride helps in hardening of teeth enamel and bones. Children consuming Flourine Rich Foods have stronger tooth enamel and bones, fewer cavities, and fewer bone fractures."
Water from fresh sources and fluorinated water is the best source of fluorine. Some other dietary sources are tea leaves, nuts (almonds), sunflower seeds, fresh fruits and vegetables like carrots, turnip and beet greens, dandelion,garlic,spinach, green leafy vegetables, and turnip greens.
Top 10 Fluorine Rich Foods
1. Tea Leaves Tea can be introduced in the diet of children of a certain age group, and it acts as a good source of fluorine.
2. Pickles Fluorine rich pickled cucumber can be added to sandwiched, burgers, and salads.
3. Grape Juice Grape juice is a wonderful way to add fluorine to the kids diet. The content is especially high in canned juice.
4. Spinach Green Leafy vegetables like spinach absorb the soil fluorine and act as good sources of the mineral.
5. Tomato Products Tomato products like salted sauces are easily incorporatable fluorine sources.
6. Carrots Carrots cooked with or without salt are very good sources of
7. Orange Juice Orange juice especially the canned variety are excellent sources of Fuorine.
8. Asparagus Asparagus can be prepared in many different ways to suit childrens palate, and is also a good source of fluorine
9. Beets Beets not only add flavor but also color and fluorine to a dish.
10.Prunes Prunes can be eaten as such or consumed as juice to meet fluorine demands.
Did you know that fluorine is often supplemented in childrens toothpaste to help build a stronger teeth enamel and prevent dental cavities
http://fawesome.tv/health/396091-top-10-fluorine-rich-foods-for-children
"Fluorine or Fluoride helps in hardening of teeth enamel and bones. Children consuming Flourine Rich Foods have stronger tooth enamel and bones, fewer cavities, and fewer bone fractures."
Water from fresh sources and fluorinated water is the best source of fluorine. Some other dietary sources are tea leaves, nuts (almonds), sunflower seeds, fresh fruits and vegetables like carrots, turnip and beet greens, dandelion,garlic,spinach, green leafy vegetables, and turnip greens.
Top 10 Fluorine Rich Foods
1. Tea Leaves Tea can be introduced in the diet of children of a certain age group, and it acts as a good source of fluorine.
2. Pickles Fluorine rich pickled cucumber can be added to sandwiched, burgers, and salads.
3. Grape Juice Grape juice is a wonderful way to add fluorine to the kids diet. The content is especially high in canned juice.
4. Spinach Green Leafy vegetables like spinach absorb the soil fluorine and act as good sources of the mineral.
5. Tomato Products Tomato products like salted sauces are easily incorporatable fluorine sources.
6. Carrots Carrots cooked with or without salt are very good sources of
7. Orange Juice Orange juice especially the canned variety are excellent sources of Fuorine.
8. Asparagus Asparagus can be prepared in many different ways to suit childrens palate, and is also a good source of fluorine
9. Beets Beets not only add flavor but also color and fluorine to a dish.
10.Prunes Prunes can be eaten as such or consumed as juice to meet fluorine demands.
Did you know that fluorine is often supplemented in childrens toothpaste to help build a stronger teeth enamel and prevent dental cavities
http://fawesome.tv/health/396091-top-10-fluorine-rich-foods-for-children
http://fawesome.tv/health/396091-top-10-fluorine-rich-foods-for-children
31 May 2017 19:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Naatrium:
(Naatrium on maakoores leiduvatest metallidest levikult neljas ja kõige levinum leelismetall.)
(Naatrium reageerib paljude lihtainete, vee ja hapetega. Hapetest ja veest tõrjub ta välja vesinikku ning tekib vastavalt sool ja hüdroksiid. Suurem osa naatriumisooli lahustub vees hästi.)
(Sodium is an essential element for all animals and some plants.)
(Sodium compounds are of immense commercial importance, being particularly central to industries producing glass, paper, soap, and textiles.[17] The most important sodium compounds are table salt (NaCl), soda ash (Na2CO3), baking soda (NaHCO3), caustic soda (NaOH), sodium nitrate (NaNO3), di- and tri-sodium phosphates, sodium thiosulfate (Na2S2O3·5H2O), and borax (Na2B4O7·10H2O).[18] In compounds, sodium is usually ionically bonded to water and anions, and is viewed as a hard Lewis acid.)
(Most soaps are sodium salts of fatty acids. Sodium soaps have a higher melting temperature (and seem "harder") than potassium soaps)
(Because of its importance in human metabolism, salt has long been an important commodity as shown by the English word salary, which derives from salarium, the wafers of salt sometimes given to Roman soldiers along with their other wages. In medieval Europe, a compound of sodium with the Latin name of sodanum was used as a headache remedy. The name sodium is thought to originate from the Arabic suda, meaning headache, as the headache-alleviating properties of sodium carbonate or soda were well known in early times.[36] Although sodium, sometimes called soda)
(In humans, sodium is an essential mineral that regulates blood volume, blood pressure, osmotic equilibrium and pH; the minimum physiological requirement for sodium is 500 milligrams per day)
( Sodium chloride is the principal source of sodium in the diet, and is used as seasoning and preservative in such commodities as pickled preserves and jerky; for Americans, most sodium chloride comes from processed foods.[74] Other sources of sodium are its natural occurrence in food and such food additives as monosodium glutamate (MSG), sodium nitrite, sodium saccharin, baking soda (sodium bicarbonate), and sodium benzoate)
( The US Institute of Medicine set its Tolerable Upper Intake Level for sodium at 2.3 grams per day, but the average person in the United States consumes 3.4 grams per day. Studies have found that lowering sodium intake by 2 g per day tends to lower systolic blood pressure by about two to four mm Hg.[ It has been estimated that such a decrease in sodium intake would lead to between 9 and 17% fewer cases of hypertension. )
( Hypertension, high blood pressure (HBP) causes 7.6 million premature deaths worldwide each year. (Note that salt contains about 39.3% sodium[80]—the rest being chlorine and trace chemicals; thus, 2.3 g sodium is about 5.9 g, or 2.7 ml of salt—about half a US teaspoon. ) The American Heart Association recommends no more than 1.5 g of sodium per day )
(One study found that people with or without hypertension who excreted less than 3 grams of sodium per day in their urine (and therefore were taking in less than 3 g/d) had a higher risk of death, stroke, or heart attack than those excreting 4 to 5 grams per day. Levels of 7 g per day or more in people with hypertension were associated with higher mortality and cardiovascular events, but this was not found to be true for people without hypertension. The US FDA states that adults with hypertension and prehypertension should reduce daily intake to 1.5 g)
( Unusually low or high sodium levels in humans are recognized in medicine as hyponatremia and hypernatremia. These conditions may be caused by genetic factors, ageing, or prolonged vomiting or diarrhea. )
(Hyponatremia, also spelled hyponatraemia, is a low sodium level in the blood.[3] Symptoms can vary from none to severe.[1][6] Mild symptoms include a decreased ability to think, headaches, nausea, and poor balance.[ ] Severe symptoms include confusion, seizures, and coma.
Normal serum sodium levels are 135–145 mmol/L (135–145 mEq/L).[7] Hyponatremia is generally defined as a serum sodium level of less than 135 mmol/L and is considered severe when the level is below 120 mmol/L)
(Hypernatremia, also spelled hypernatraemia, is a high sodium ion level in the blood.[ Early symptoms may include a strong feeling of thirst, weakness, nausea, and loss of appetite.[ Severe symptoms include confusion, muscle twitching, and bleeding in or around the brain.[
Hypernatremia is generally defined as a serum sodium level of more than 145 mmol/L.[1] Severe symptoms typically only occur when levels are above 160 mmol/L. The major symptom is thirst)
(The economic costs of hyponatremia are estimated at $2.6 billion in the United States.)
(Salt is essential to the health of humans and other animals, and is one of the five basic taste sensations.)
( Iodine deficiency affects about two billion people around the world and is the leading preventable cause of mental retardation.)
(Naatrium on maakoores leiduvatest metallidest levikult neljas ja kõige levinum leelismetall.)
(Naatrium reageerib paljude lihtainete, vee ja hapetega. Hapetest ja veest tõrjub ta välja vesinikku ning tekib vastavalt sool ja hüdroksiid. Suurem osa naatriumisooli lahustub vees hästi.)
(Sodium is an essential element for all animals and some plants.)
(Sodium compounds are of immense commercial importance, being particularly central to industries producing glass, paper, soap, and textiles.[17] The most important sodium compounds are table salt (NaCl), soda ash (Na2CO3), baking soda (NaHCO3), caustic soda (NaOH), sodium nitrate (NaNO3), di- and tri-sodium phosphates, sodium thiosulfate (Na2S2O3·5H2O), and borax (Na2B4O7·10H2O).[18] In compounds, sodium is usually ionically bonded to water and anions, and is viewed as a hard Lewis acid.)
(Most soaps are sodium salts of fatty acids. Sodium soaps have a higher melting temperature (and seem "harder") than potassium soaps)
(Because of its importance in human metabolism, salt has long been an important commodity as shown by the English word salary, which derives from salarium, the wafers of salt sometimes given to Roman soldiers along with their other wages. In medieval Europe, a compound of sodium with the Latin name of sodanum was used as a headache remedy. The name sodium is thought to originate from the Arabic suda, meaning headache, as the headache-alleviating properties of sodium carbonate or soda were well known in early times.[36] Although sodium, sometimes called soda)
(In humans, sodium is an essential mineral that regulates blood volume, blood pressure, osmotic equilibrium and pH; the minimum physiological requirement for sodium is 500 milligrams per day)
( Sodium chloride is the principal source of sodium in the diet, and is used as seasoning and preservative in such commodities as pickled preserves and jerky; for Americans, most sodium chloride comes from processed foods.[74] Other sources of sodium are its natural occurrence in food and such food additives as monosodium glutamate (MSG), sodium nitrite, sodium saccharin, baking soda (sodium bicarbonate), and sodium benzoate)
( The US Institute of Medicine set its Tolerable Upper Intake Level for sodium at 2.3 grams per day, but the average person in the United States consumes 3.4 grams per day. Studies have found that lowering sodium intake by 2 g per day tends to lower systolic blood pressure by about two to four mm Hg.[ It has been estimated that such a decrease in sodium intake would lead to between 9 and 17% fewer cases of hypertension. )
( Hypertension, high blood pressure (HBP) causes 7.6 million premature deaths worldwide each year. (Note that salt contains about 39.3% sodium[80]—the rest being chlorine and trace chemicals; thus, 2.3 g sodium is about 5.9 g, or 2.7 ml of salt—about half a US teaspoon. ) The American Heart Association recommends no more than 1.5 g of sodium per day )
(One study found that people with or without hypertension who excreted less than 3 grams of sodium per day in their urine (and therefore were taking in less than 3 g/d) had a higher risk of death, stroke, or heart attack than those excreting 4 to 5 grams per day. Levels of 7 g per day or more in people with hypertension were associated with higher mortality and cardiovascular events, but this was not found to be true for people without hypertension. The US FDA states that adults with hypertension and prehypertension should reduce daily intake to 1.5 g)
( Unusually low or high sodium levels in humans are recognized in medicine as hyponatremia and hypernatremia. These conditions may be caused by genetic factors, ageing, or prolonged vomiting or diarrhea. )
(Hyponatremia, also spelled hyponatraemia, is a low sodium level in the blood.[3] Symptoms can vary from none to severe.[1][6] Mild symptoms include a decreased ability to think, headaches, nausea, and poor balance.[ ] Severe symptoms include confusion, seizures, and coma.
Normal serum sodium levels are 135–145 mmol/L (135–145 mEq/L).[7] Hyponatremia is generally defined as a serum sodium level of less than 135 mmol/L and is considered severe when the level is below 120 mmol/L)
(Hypernatremia, also spelled hypernatraemia, is a high sodium ion level in the blood.[ Early symptoms may include a strong feeling of thirst, weakness, nausea, and loss of appetite.[ Severe symptoms include confusion, muscle twitching, and bleeding in or around the brain.[
Hypernatremia is generally defined as a serum sodium level of more than 145 mmol/L.[1] Severe symptoms typically only occur when levels are above 160 mmol/L. The major symptom is thirst)
(The economic costs of hyponatremia are estimated at $2.6 billion in the United States.)
(Salt is essential to the health of humans and other animals, and is one of the five basic taste sensations.)
( Iodine deficiency affects about two billion people around the world and is the leading preventable cause of mental retardation.)
31 May 2017 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// Mõelda vaid, niisama pealtpoolt lugedes, mitte keemiast arusaades, võib jääda mulje, et sool micro tasemel ka muud pidi me vaimukehale ebakasulik saab olla. Lisaks meile sise söödetuna me paremini juhitavad oleme elektroonilisel peentasemel, muust ilmast.
Kuid me peame vastu, sest oleme kes oleme.
"Sool ehk keedusool või lauasool koosneb 40% naatriumist ja 60% kloorist. Soola n-ö kahjulik toime tuleneb naatriumi liigtarbimisest."
Kloor:
(Kloor on keemiline element järjenumbriga 17. See asub perioodilisustabelis VIIA rühmas, mille moodustavad halogeenid. Kloor on üks aktiivsemaid mittemetalle, millel on suur elektronafiinsus ja elektronegatiivsus.)
(Kloori oksiidid on happelised. Vesinikuga moodustab kloor vesinikkloriidi, mis on tugevalt happeline.)
(Kloor kui lihtaine on mürgine raske gaas, terava lõhnaga, kergesti veelduv. Värvuselt kollakasroheline. Kloor lahustub vähepolaarsetes vedelikes paremini kui vees. Vees hakkab kloor osaliselt reageerima, moodustades hüdraate.)
(Kloor on väga aktiivne keemiline element, reageerides peaaegu kõigi metallidega ja suurema osa mittemetallidega. Sellisel suurel keemilisel aktiivsusel on peamiselt kolm põhjust: kloriidide suur sidemeenergia; suur elektronafiinsus; Cl aatomite moodustumise kergus Cl2 molekulidest.)
Reageerimine mittemetallidega:
(Reaktsioon toimub plahvatusega süütamisel või valguse toimel, kuna tegu on ahelreaktsiooniga. Reaktsioon võib toimuda ka rahulikult, kui kasutada reaktsiooni aeglustavaid katalüsaatoreid.)
(Fluoriga reageerides annab kloor mürgiseid ühendeid, mis on väga reaktsioonivõimelised. Tuntumad ühendid on ClF (kloormonofluoriid), ClF3 (kloortrifluoriid) ja ClF5 kloorpentafluoriid.)
(Fluor on halogeenidest kõige aktiivsem. Inimkehale (nii limaskestadele kui ka nahale) mõjub fluor söövitavalt. Tuntakse üle 100 fluori sisaldava mineraali, millest tähtsaimad on fluoriit)
(Veega Reaktsiooni käigus tekib kaks hapet: HOCl (hüpokloorishape) ja HCl (vesinikkloriidhape). Hüpokloorishape on vähedissotsieeruv ühend, kuid kuna tegu on vesilahusega, siis vesinikkloriidhape dissotsieerub selles peaaegu täielikult ioonideks)
(Hapnikuga reageerides tekivad oksiidid, millest kõige tuntumad on Cl2O (diklooroksiid), ClO2 (kloordioksiid), Cl2O6 (dikloorheksaoksiid) ja Cl2O7 (dikloorheptaoksiid))
Kloordioksiid (ClO2) on rohekaskollane vees hästi lahustuv õhust raskem mürgine plahvatusohtlik gaas. Tugevate oksüdeerivate omaduste tõttu kasutatakse teda valgendi (nt puidutselluloosi töötlemisel) ja desinfektandina (sh joogivee töötlemisel). Tööstuslikult saadakse kloordioksiidi peamiselt naatriumkloraadist väävelhappe ja metanooli abil või naatriumkloritist ja soolhappest. Plahvatusohtlikkuse tõttu käideldakse kloordioksiidi harva puhtal gaasilisel kujul, vaid tavaliselt vesilahusena.
Soolhape on tugev hape ja selle käitlemisel tuleb olla ettevaatlik. Soolhapet kasutatakse laialdaselt tööstuses. Inimeses on soolhape maohappe koostises.
https://blissreturned.wordpress.com/2012/02/20/fluorine-daily-requirement-function-benefits-and-food-source-that-everyone-should-know/
Kuid me peame vastu, sest oleme kes oleme.
"Sool ehk keedusool või lauasool koosneb 40% naatriumist ja 60% kloorist. Soola n-ö kahjulik toime tuleneb naatriumi liigtarbimisest."
Kloor:
(Kloor on keemiline element järjenumbriga 17. See asub perioodilisustabelis VIIA rühmas, mille moodustavad halogeenid. Kloor on üks aktiivsemaid mittemetalle, millel on suur elektronafiinsus ja elektronegatiivsus.)
(Kloori oksiidid on happelised. Vesinikuga moodustab kloor vesinikkloriidi, mis on tugevalt happeline.)
(Kloor kui lihtaine on mürgine raske gaas, terava lõhnaga, kergesti veelduv. Värvuselt kollakasroheline. Kloor lahustub vähepolaarsetes vedelikes paremini kui vees. Vees hakkab kloor osaliselt reageerima, moodustades hüdraate.)
(Kloor on väga aktiivne keemiline element, reageerides peaaegu kõigi metallidega ja suurema osa mittemetallidega. Sellisel suurel keemilisel aktiivsusel on peamiselt kolm põhjust: kloriidide suur sidemeenergia; suur elektronafiinsus; Cl aatomite moodustumise kergus Cl2 molekulidest.)
Reageerimine mittemetallidega:
(Reaktsioon toimub plahvatusega süütamisel või valguse toimel, kuna tegu on ahelreaktsiooniga. Reaktsioon võib toimuda ka rahulikult, kui kasutada reaktsiooni aeglustavaid katalüsaatoreid.)
(Fluoriga reageerides annab kloor mürgiseid ühendeid, mis on väga reaktsioonivõimelised. Tuntumad ühendid on ClF (kloormonofluoriid), ClF3 (kloortrifluoriid) ja ClF5 kloorpentafluoriid.)
(Fluor on halogeenidest kõige aktiivsem. Inimkehale (nii limaskestadele kui ka nahale) mõjub fluor söövitavalt. Tuntakse üle 100 fluori sisaldava mineraali, millest tähtsaimad on fluoriit)
(Veega Reaktsiooni käigus tekib kaks hapet: HOCl (hüpokloorishape) ja HCl (vesinikkloriidhape). Hüpokloorishape on vähedissotsieeruv ühend, kuid kuna tegu on vesilahusega, siis vesinikkloriidhape dissotsieerub selles peaaegu täielikult ioonideks)
(Hapnikuga reageerides tekivad oksiidid, millest kõige tuntumad on Cl2O (diklooroksiid), ClO2 (kloordioksiid), Cl2O6 (dikloorheksaoksiid) ja Cl2O7 (dikloorheptaoksiid))
Kloordioksiid (ClO2) on rohekaskollane vees hästi lahustuv õhust raskem mürgine plahvatusohtlik gaas. Tugevate oksüdeerivate omaduste tõttu kasutatakse teda valgendi (nt puidutselluloosi töötlemisel) ja desinfektandina (sh joogivee töötlemisel). Tööstuslikult saadakse kloordioksiidi peamiselt naatriumkloraadist väävelhappe ja metanooli abil või naatriumkloritist ja soolhappest. Plahvatusohtlikkuse tõttu käideldakse kloordioksiidi harva puhtal gaasilisel kujul, vaid tavaliselt vesilahusena.
Soolhape on tugev hape ja selle käitlemisel tuleb olla ettevaatlik. Soolhapet kasutatakse laialdaselt tööstuses. Inimeses on soolhape maohappe koostises.
https://blissreturned.wordpress.com/2012/02/20/fluorine-daily-requirement-function-benefits-and-food-source-that-everyone-should-know/
https://blissreturned.wordpress.com/2012/02/20/fluorine-daily-requirement-function-benefits-and-food-source-that-everyone-should-know/
31 May 2017 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on Reet Väär's post.
Kuid rahvas ise ... rahvas.. miks nii pehme oma tõe ütlemistes,
kuid Jüri üks väheseid sellel töökohal olijaid kes valikult midagi taolist, peremudeli jms osas öelda julgeb, nagu arusain, siis isegi vastuvõtul ei tohi inimestele enam isegi soovitada, seda mis sugu nad on teiste arvates
kuid Jüri üks väheseid sellel töökohal olijaid kes valikult midagi taolist, peremudeli jms osas öelda julgeb, nagu arusain, siis isegi vastuvõtul ei tohi inimestele enam isegi soovitada, seda mis sugu nad on teiste arvates
31 May 2017 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on Tanel Rank's post.
Enamusel joojatel ei adu mõistust arusaamakski, hoolimisekski, et kindlalt üle 90% rahast mis alkoholile kulub, läheb ameerikasse ja muudesse maadesse, kelle litsenside all joogid on ja kelle piiritusest ka suurem osa " Eesti " alkoholi tehtud.
Kuid jah, ise sooviks, et puskari ajamine oleks lubatud, kuid miks toidupoes seda kraami müüakse on täiesti arusaamatu, kui uskuda, et enam pole kommunistlik rahvusluse hävitamise periood... aga nüüüd kui arusaama hakata, et ikkagi viisnurk on rahade peal ja mujal, rohkem üle maa kui kunagi varem, siis ... siis täiesti arusaadav
Kuid jah, ise sooviks, et puskari ajamine oleks lubatud, kuid miks toidupoes seda kraami müüakse on täiesti arusaamatu, kui uskuda, et enam pole kommunistlik rahvusluse hävitamise periood... aga nüüüd kui arusaama hakata, et ikkagi viisnurk on rahade peal ja mujal, rohkem üle maa kui kunagi varem, siis ... siis täiesti arusaadav
31 May 2017 17:58
Margus Meigo commented on Tanel Rank's post.
Päris sügav puue peab olema inimestel, kui arvavad, et kasulik on, kui Eestlased siin kohapeal saaksid alakoholi osta... muidugi kahjuks ikkagi saavad...
31 May 2017 17:55
Margus Meigo replied to Madis Sinimets's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Tanel Rank nu sa tead, peaks ilmatargad Su juurde kutsuma, kui Sa nii üli uute ja suurusuguste teadmistega oled.
Põnev oleks kuulda, mis versioon homodele kaasa aitavast teooriast Sul siis on ?31 May 2017 17:53
Margus Meigo replied to Pille Juur's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
ja homous on ka suuremal hulgal ravitav vastavate loodus rohtudega. Kuigi ise ootan veel huviga kui keegi vaid resursse mulle annaks, et seda tõestada saaks (küll need ülbed/julged homod ka kuskilt leiaks kes katses raha eestki osaleksid)
va. vast neil pole ravitavad kes on inimese nahas muud olendid, hingetud kestad, siin meie liiki inflatreerimas, kuid neist ei saa palju rääkida, sest kommunistliku, rooma-greeka pede hariduse põhjal ülesharitud inimesed teavad ainult uskuda, et on üks inimliik mis ahvist arenes ja seda demokraatitat ei tohi ilma ise diagnoosi alla sattumatta kahtluse alla panna nende silmis,
Kuigi nad ise ju teavad alles hiljuti, biorobotite karja kes nii oma võigastelt tegudelt kui mõtteviisilt, siin sõjaajal kenasti tõestasid, et nad ilmselgelt ei saanud olla arenenud tavaarengust.
Kui kirjakeele ära õpiks räägiks sellest wast pikemalt31 May 2017 17:50
Margus Meigo replied to Pille Juur's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Homodus on palju ohtlikum vaimuhaigus kui seda keegi arvata julgeb, kui asja vaimselt vaadata ja arusaada31 May 2017 17:46
Margus Meigo replied to Pille Juur's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Homodus on palju ohtlikum vaimuhaigus kui seda keegi arvata julgeb, kui asja vaimselt vaadata ja arusaada31 May 2017 17:45
Margus Meigo replied to Karmen Kimmel's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Veider kuidas inimene ütleb, et "On homoseksuaal ja täiesti normaalne" see ju pseudo keelekasutus, kuna homosexuaal ise juba tähendab, väärarengut normaalsusest mis liigile kohane.
Inimene trukib ja laseb ennast trukkida, ja siis paneb puhtad riided selga, käib trukib ülikoolis ja heal töökohal, ja siis lihtsalt välimuse/hariduse põhjal hakata arvama, et inimene on normaalne kui on teada, et tegeleb pervertsustega on ikka päris alatu ja halvas mõttes naiivne, kuid kuna on naisterahvas kes nii arvab, siis veel aksepteeritud, sest te ei ole kohustatud teadma nende tumedate trukkimiste taga toimuvaid vaimumustusi ja esoteerikasseulatuvaid globaalseid kahjustusi mida selline meelsus läbi ajaloo kaasa toonud on.
Suur hulk inimesi ise ei saa arugi, et nad homomeelsed, arvavad lihtsalt, et vabamaeelsed, või euromeelsed vms, tegelikult aga on arusaamad väga elui vastased31 May 2017 17:44
Margus Meigo commented on Hermo Kuusk's post.
Group: Küsimused-vastused
Eks see on psühiaatriline häire omaette ja minuslilmis ääretult ebaaustusväärne enamikul juhudel kui valesi naeratusi tehakse koos järjepideva võlts meeldimisega.
Asjadest tuleb ikka räääkida ausalt,
kuid isegi psühiaatrid ise, olen elus kohanud, ei soovi ausat ega austusväärset suhtlemist vaid võltsi ja ennast allasuruvat, avameelsuse asemel31 May 2017 17:37
Margus Meigo commented on Rein Jürgenson's post.
Group: Arutleme vabalt
See muidu julge psühiaater, isegi ütleb et traditsiooniline peremudel on eeskuju,
seda enamuspool maailmast enam promoda psühiaatrias pole lubatud nagu arusaanud soome poolt jne31 May 2017 17:33
Margus Meigo commented on Valve Luude's post.
Group: Vabade Kodanike Ühendus
väga irooniline, rasvaselt irooniline on vaadata inimesi, kes FOX Crime jms pahameelt tekitavaid, või mrvamise põnevaks muutvaid telekanaleid vaatavad ja siis sinna otsa veel riiki kiruvad.
Nendest kes joovad aga samas ei ole oma pere ega sõpradega sügavas suhtes ega plaanides millest maailmale kasu oleks, mis armastust kasvataks... neist ei hakka üldse rääkimagi31 May 2017 17:32
Margus Meigo commented on Valve Luude's post.
Group: Vabade Kodanike Ühendus
Suitsiidi tekitaja on igaüks kes suitsetab, joob ja telekast labasusi vaatab kui ka see, kes süstemaatiliselt saaks aga ei selgita kaasinimestele nende vigasi31 May 2017 17:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
väga irooniline, rasvaselt irooniline on vaadata inimesi, kes FOX Crime jms pahameelt tekitavaid, või mrvamise põnevaks muutvaid telekanaleid vaatavad ja siis sinna otsa veel riiki kiruvad.
Nendest kes joovad aga samas ei ole oma pere ega sõpradega sügavas suhtes ega plaanides millest maailmale kasu oleks, mis armastust kasvataks... neist ei hakka üldse rääkimagi31 May 2017 17:27
Margus Meigo commented on Omega Kolm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Suitsiidi tekitaja on igaüks kes suitsetab, joob ja telekast labasusi vaatab kui ka see, kes süstemaatiliselt saaks aga ei selgita kaasinimestele nende vigasi31 May 2017 17:25
Margus Meigo commented on Ilona Ainen's post.
Group: VABAMEELSELT VALLATUD
Suitsiidi tekitaja on igaüks kes suitsetab, joob ja telekast labasusi vaatab kui ka see, kes süstemaatiliselt saaks aga ei selgita kaasinimestele nende vigasi31 May 2017 17:24
Margus Meigo commented on Aare Tamm's post.
Suitsiidi tekitaja on igaüks kes suitsetab, joob ja telekast labasusi vaatab kui ka see, kes süstemaatiliselt saaks aga ei selgita kaasinimestele nende vigasi
31 May 2017 17:24
Margus Meigo commented on Rasmus Karin's post.
Vaevalt, et nii suur hulk teismelisi enam tundelised on, ja suur osa nutaks nende teiste pärast kes nutavad vast : )
31 May 2017 16:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Since Storyful’s specialty lies in verifying and debunking content found on social media, we hope we can help.
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How to Find Out if the News Is Real
Note where the key information comes from
Are direct quotes attributed to someone with good reason to be familiar with a certain situation, or to know what they claim to know, such as an expert or someone with provable experience in the field? Or is the piece quoting someone of dubious “expert” credentials, or with little apparent ties to the situation being discussed?
Follow the links
Does the story reference a business/government report or cite another story on another website? If the story is based entirely on a different story, click through and read that source (if there is no link, simply Google the purported source). Keep doing that in every subsequent story until you find the original report and original sources.
You may find that the shadiest sites will reference stories on similar sites that reference stories on similar sites until you’ve made it full circle without finding an original source. I call this “aggregation inception.” Or maybe, even worse, you’ll hit a total dead end looking for that original source. This should be a major red flag.
Who is the author?
If all of the notable information seems plucked from thin air or from the writer’s opinion, look into that writer. How do they know what they claim to know? Maybe he or she is an expert in that field, and that’s great. Or maybe they are a crackpot conspiracy theorist, or an ill-informed teen in his parents’ basement, or someone using a fake identity.
Look for a second source
What is standard good practice for the journalist should also now be for the reader. If nobody else is reporting the news, there’s a good chance it isn’t real. Sometimes this is because the site in question has a huge scoop and if that’s the case, great! You were among the first to know (though the window of exclusivity is very short nowadays). But there’s also a chance that this was made up, and that is why you aren’t finding it on any other known, legitimate site.
A few more tips on spotting fake news sites:
Look closely at the URL. From the appearance of the shared item on social, it may look like it is from a known source like ABC News or CNN. When you click through, the site may even look like the familiar source, but look at the URL. It may have an additional domain after the “.com” – which indicates it is likely not a real site.
Be wary of websites that have odd domain names and particularly non-standard domain extensions (i.e. not .com, .edu, .net, .gov, etc.). It’s much easier and cheaper for fact-factory sites to spin up a new site using domain names from other countries.
Look on the site’s “About Us” page for any information you can find: Who runs the site? Who owns it? You might also find this information at the bottom of the site’s pages. All legitimate news sites will have this information.
Check the name of the site in Wikipedia, Google and Snopes.com to see if they are known for fake stories.
If you spot a lot of misspellings, use of all capital letters or generally odd use of language, be suspicious that the site may not be a legitimate news source.
The same goes for web design. If the design is difficult to navigate, doesn’t open properly or seems to be on an amateurish site, proceed with caution. It may be a legitimate self-starting journalist or expert, or it may be a total fake.
Take note of the author. If the post or story doesn’t have an author’s name – or any information about the author – they may not be a legitimate news source.
And this doesn’t just apply to sites with weird names or political pop-ups, but all forms of media. Most of the newspapers, TV news sites, magazines and online news brands out there do good work – but sometimes they don’t. Maintain constant vigilance.
Finally – one of the best ways to combat misinformation and the bias of your own filter bubbles in navigating the news is to simply ensure you are reading a range of sources, especially on the stories you find yourself saying are too good, too terrible, too amazing to be true (because they probably are). This sort of varied media diet is not only useful to identify any bias from one outlet or another, but, ideally, to give yourself a fuller picture. Different reporters are able to talk to different sources and you can get a more complete story by seeing a variety of perspectives.
In an age where news is easy to manufacture but difficult to get right, we all must demand better of our news sources and ourselves as the audience.
Mandy Jenkins is Head of News at Storyful
________
"Granted, we are most known for working with user-created content (what is often the raw material for news) and not news generated by “professional” outfits, but the same principles we use for verifying eyewitness content can be used by anyone who consumes news.
The first thing any reader, brand, researcher or journalist should do is maintain constant vigilance.
This means to approach every story or account you read online with skepticism. That’s what we do at Storyful, and it usually serves us well in identifying a fake.
https://storyful.com/blog/2016/11/17/truth-lies-likes-readers-role-battle-fake-news/
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10eA5-mCZLSS4MQY5QGb5ewC3VAL6pLkT53V_81ZyitM/preview
-
How to Find Out if the News Is Real
Note where the key information comes from
Are direct quotes attributed to someone with good reason to be familiar with a certain situation, or to know what they claim to know, such as an expert or someone with provable experience in the field? Or is the piece quoting someone of dubious “expert” credentials, or with little apparent ties to the situation being discussed?
Follow the links
Does the story reference a business/government report or cite another story on another website? If the story is based entirely on a different story, click through and read that source (if there is no link, simply Google the purported source). Keep doing that in every subsequent story until you find the original report and original sources.
You may find that the shadiest sites will reference stories on similar sites that reference stories on similar sites until you’ve made it full circle without finding an original source. I call this “aggregation inception.” Or maybe, even worse, you’ll hit a total dead end looking for that original source. This should be a major red flag.
Who is the author?
If all of the notable information seems plucked from thin air or from the writer’s opinion, look into that writer. How do they know what they claim to know? Maybe he or she is an expert in that field, and that’s great. Or maybe they are a crackpot conspiracy theorist, or an ill-informed teen in his parents’ basement, or someone using a fake identity.
Look for a second source
What is standard good practice for the journalist should also now be for the reader. If nobody else is reporting the news, there’s a good chance it isn’t real. Sometimes this is because the site in question has a huge scoop and if that’s the case, great! You were among the first to know (though the window of exclusivity is very short nowadays). But there’s also a chance that this was made up, and that is why you aren’t finding it on any other known, legitimate site.
A few more tips on spotting fake news sites:
Look closely at the URL. From the appearance of the shared item on social, it may look like it is from a known source like ABC News or CNN. When you click through, the site may even look like the familiar source, but look at the URL. It may have an additional domain after the “.com” – which indicates it is likely not a real site.
Be wary of websites that have odd domain names and particularly non-standard domain extensions (i.e. not .com, .edu, .net, .gov, etc.). It’s much easier and cheaper for fact-factory sites to spin up a new site using domain names from other countries.
Look on the site’s “About Us” page for any information you can find: Who runs the site? Who owns it? You might also find this information at the bottom of the site’s pages. All legitimate news sites will have this information.
Check the name of the site in Wikipedia, Google and Snopes.com to see if they are known for fake stories.
If you spot a lot of misspellings, use of all capital letters or generally odd use of language, be suspicious that the site may not be a legitimate news source.
The same goes for web design. If the design is difficult to navigate, doesn’t open properly or seems to be on an amateurish site, proceed with caution. It may be a legitimate self-starting journalist or expert, or it may be a total fake.
Take note of the author. If the post or story doesn’t have an author’s name – or any information about the author – they may not be a legitimate news source.
And this doesn’t just apply to sites with weird names or political pop-ups, but all forms of media. Most of the newspapers, TV news sites, magazines and online news brands out there do good work – but sometimes they don’t. Maintain constant vigilance.
Finally – one of the best ways to combat misinformation and the bias of your own filter bubbles in navigating the news is to simply ensure you are reading a range of sources, especially on the stories you find yourself saying are too good, too terrible, too amazing to be true (because they probably are). This sort of varied media diet is not only useful to identify any bias from one outlet or another, but, ideally, to give yourself a fuller picture. Different reporters are able to talk to different sources and you can get a more complete story by seeing a variety of perspectives.
In an age where news is easy to manufacture but difficult to get right, we all must demand better of our news sources and ourselves as the audience.
Mandy Jenkins is Head of News at Storyful
________
"Granted, we are most known for working with user-created content (what is often the raw material for news) and not news generated by “professional” outfits, but the same principles we use for verifying eyewitness content can be used by anyone who consumes news.
The first thing any reader, brand, researcher or journalist should do is maintain constant vigilance.
This means to approach every story or account you read online with skepticism. That’s what we do at Storyful, and it usually serves us well in identifying a fake.
https://storyful.com/blog/2016/11/17/truth-lies-likes-readers-role-battle-fake-news/
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10eA5-mCZLSS4MQY5QGb5ewC3VAL6pLkT53V_81ZyitM/preview
http://snopes.com/
31 May 2017 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mark Little, Storyful Founder, and CEO gave a talk at the ICT in Education Conference at the Tipperary Institute last Saturday. The talk was to an audience comprised mainly of primary and secondary school educators at the only event in Ireland that combines all three levels of education in a day-long series of presentations and workshops.
https://storyful.com/blog/2010/05/19/the-wisdom-in-the-crowd-creating-and-curating-to-share-in-communities/
https://storyful.com/blog/2010/05/19/the-wisdom-in-the-crowd-creating-and-curating-to-share-in-communities/
https://storyful.com/blog/2010/05/19/the-wisdom-in-the-crowd-creating-and-curating-to-share-in-communities/
31 May 2017 01:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
((little bit)
https://storyful.com/blog/2010/05/19/the-wisdom-in-the-crowd-creating-and-curating-to-share-in-communities/
http://www.tippinst.ie/
http://vimeo.com/channels/ictedu10
Mark Little, Storyful Founder, and CEO gave a talk at the ICT in Education Conference at the Tipperary Institute last Saturday. The talk was to an audience comprised mainly of primary and secondary school educators at the only event in Ireland that combines all three levels of education in a day-long series of presentations and workshops. from StudioSix @ Tipperary Institute on Vimeo
Mark’s Saturday presentation concluded activities that started the evening before with a group of 35 educators in a Computer Education Society of Ireland meet. At the main conference, several people in the audience commented on how they had taken stories they had heard about the effective uses of technology into their own schools. Several workshops during the day-long event showcased how Irish education continues innovating even under tight fiscal constraints.
https://storyful.com/blog/2010/05/19/the-wisdom-in-the-crowd-creating-and-curating-to-share-in-communities/
http://www.tippinst.ie/
http://vimeo.com/channels/ictedu10
Mark Little, Storyful Founder, and CEO gave a talk at the ICT in Education Conference at the Tipperary Institute last Saturday. The talk was to an audience comprised mainly of primary and secondary school educators at the only event in Ireland that combines all three levels of education in a day-long series of presentations and workshops. from StudioSix @ Tipperary Institute on Vimeo
Mark’s Saturday presentation concluded activities that started the evening before with a group of 35 educators in a Computer Education Society of Ireland meet. At the main conference, several people in the audience commented on how they had taken stories they had heard about the effective uses of technology into their own schools. Several workshops during the day-long event showcased how Irish education continues innovating even under tight fiscal constraints.
31 May 2017 01:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
by teaming up with them we hope to give our clients in some of the world’s most forward-thinking news organisations an even more insightful product.
The combination of our pooled editorial and technological skills will yield some of the most useful real-time news analysis tools that newsrooms have ever seen, and we’re very excited to be partnering with them.
As Storyful continues to grow in size and reach, we’re delighted to announce two new partnerships that will help us deliver news content in new and exciting ways.
Last week, Storyful announced a partnership with Tweetminster, a global leader in Twitter-derived intelligence for news professionals.
https://storyful.com/blog/2011/10/20/storyful-partners-with-tweetminster-redux/
Today, we announce a new video partnership with Redux, a Google TV partner who’ll be plugging our selection of top news video directly into their online, lean-back video channel, perfect for consumption on your living room TV.
Redux’s curated video channels provide a rolling smorgasbord of top web content with a seamless presentation style, and today Storyful adds a world news channel to the mix. For news junkies, having a curated news channel from Storyful is an ideal way to consume the latest, most relevant news video from around the world without the fuss of search
The average Redux user spends an hour at a time on Redux, proving that if you deliver a stream of quality video in a seamless, easy-on-the-eyes format, and remove the need to hop from page to page, people will happily lean back and consume the content.
These partnerships with Redux and Tweetminster mark a new phase of Storyful’s growth, taking the proven power of social journalism further by injecting intelligent analysis and adding slick delivery to bring the content we find to an ever greater audience. Watch this space.
http://redux.com/tv?chid=channel-1971
http://blog.redux.com/post/11658561146/redux-and-storyful-pioneer-curated-global-news-for-tv
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/EEMuiXBrDtYSlp0cy9g3FY28VRgrBHyMRGlXUXfQ6OY458f1qCQRsCVlEIhc3NCTwPkM-6VZkoJuNPOgxVjyM35oIGcT58H8l__sxEN4ulIOTudHBag
The combination of our pooled editorial and technological skills will yield some of the most useful real-time news analysis tools that newsrooms have ever seen, and we’re very excited to be partnering with them.
As Storyful continues to grow in size and reach, we’re delighted to announce two new partnerships that will help us deliver news content in new and exciting ways.
Last week, Storyful announced a partnership with Tweetminster, a global leader in Twitter-derived intelligence for news professionals.
https://storyful.com/blog/2011/10/20/storyful-partners-with-tweetminster-redux/
Today, we announce a new video partnership with Redux, a Google TV partner who’ll be plugging our selection of top news video directly into their online, lean-back video channel, perfect for consumption on your living room TV.
Redux’s curated video channels provide a rolling smorgasbord of top web content with a seamless presentation style, and today Storyful adds a world news channel to the mix. For news junkies, having a curated news channel from Storyful is an ideal way to consume the latest, most relevant news video from around the world without the fuss of search
The average Redux user spends an hour at a time on Redux, proving that if you deliver a stream of quality video in a seamless, easy-on-the-eyes format, and remove the need to hop from page to page, people will happily lean back and consume the content.
These partnerships with Redux and Tweetminster mark a new phase of Storyful’s growth, taking the proven power of social journalism further by injecting intelligent analysis and adding slick delivery to bring the content we find to an ever greater audience. Watch this space.
http://redux.com/tv?chid=channel-1971
http://blog.redux.com/post/11658561146/redux-and-storyful-pioneer-curated-global-news-for-tv
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/EEMuiXBrDtYSlp0cy9g3FY28VRgrBHyMRGlXUXfQ6OY458f1qCQRsCVlEIhc3NCTwPkM-6VZkoJuNPOgxVjyM35oIGcT58H8l__sxEN4ulIOTudHBag
31 May 2017 01:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Today, Storyful is excited to announce the launch of our Chinese channel: 搜视•歪事儿.
http://i.youku.com/storyful
http://i.youku.com/storyful
http://i.youku.com/storyful
31 May 2017 01:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More business side of Storyful
"While Twitter, YouTube and WhatsApp dominate in the West, Weibo, Youku and WeChat are the kings of microblogging, video-sharing and social messaging services in China. Chinese internet users rely heavily on these new emperors of China’s social space to be informed, entertained, and inspired by stories around the world.
The rise of China’s online market makes its leading video site, Youku, a natural evolution of Storyful’s work in video. "
"China’s internet growth over the last few years has been nothing short of astonishing. Last month, China announced it had a total of 649 million online users by the end of 2014, which is half of the entire population of China – or double the entire population of the U.S. It’s easy to see why it’s the market that technology companies worldwide have set their sights on. "
https://storyful.com/blog/2015/03/10/storyful-joins-peoples-republic-of-video/
"While Twitter, YouTube and WhatsApp dominate in the West, Weibo, Youku and WeChat are the kings of microblogging, video-sharing and social messaging services in China. Chinese internet users rely heavily on these new emperors of China’s social space to be informed, entertained, and inspired by stories around the world.
The rise of China’s online market makes its leading video site, Youku, a natural evolution of Storyful’s work in video. "
"China’s internet growth over the last few years has been nothing short of astonishing. Last month, China announced it had a total of 649 million online users by the end of 2014, which is half of the entire population of China – or double the entire population of the U.S. It’s easy to see why it’s the market that technology companies worldwide have set their sights on. "
https://storyful.com/blog/2015/03/10/storyful-joins-peoples-republic-of-video/
https://storyful.com/blog/2015/03/10/storyful-joins-peoples-republic-of-video/
31 May 2017 01:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Audio: "what makes video viral"
(unfortunately too "gay'ish analysts sounds first but worth to hear still, not over deep, but good basic))
https://soundcloud.com/storyful/episode-6-what-makes-a-viral-video
(unfortunately too "gay'ish analysts sounds first but worth to hear still, not over deep, but good basic))
https://soundcloud.com/storyful/episode-6-what-makes-a-viral-video
https://soundcloud.com/storyful/episode-6-what-makes-a-viral-video
31 May 2017 01:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
powerful potential tools for sure:
(but "not for the layman")
"In essence, Verify is a mini-Storyful built into Chrome that travels with our partners as they browse content across the social web. The extension acts as a one-click analysis of any piece of content on the social web. If we have the video in our library, the button is green; if we do not, the button is red.
For example, if a partner is looking for a social video and comes across something interesting on YouTube or Instagram, Verify will tell them if that video is in our library and link to that story. If the video is not, partners can click the Contact Us button and request our global newsroom investigate the video or potentially pursue licensing it.
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Ultimately, our goal is to give our partners elegant tools that solve specific challenges and make it easier for them to incorporate Storyful content into their storytelling. Each tool we create is designed to improve our discovery and verification internally while giving our partners greater insight into the stories and content we are chasing every day.
Every day, we help publishers, marketers and production houses around the world scale their content creation and tell powerful stories in the moment. If you are not a Storyful client and would like to discuss Verify or our free Video Marketplace, please contact us
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lets hope this basic idea is not lock by some illusory copyrights
(but "not for the layman")
"In essence, Verify is a mini-Storyful built into Chrome that travels with our partners as they browse content across the social web. The extension acts as a one-click analysis of any piece of content on the social web. If we have the video in our library, the button is green; if we do not, the button is red.
For example, if a partner is looking for a social video and comes across something interesting on YouTube or Instagram, Verify will tell them if that video is in our library and link to that story. If the video is not, partners can click the Contact Us button and request our global newsroom investigate the video or potentially pursue licensing it.
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Ultimately, our goal is to give our partners elegant tools that solve specific challenges and make it easier for them to incorporate Storyful content into their storytelling. Each tool we create is designed to improve our discovery and verification internally while giving our partners greater insight into the stories and content we are chasing every day.
Every day, we help publishers, marketers and production houses around the world scale their content creation and tell powerful stories in the moment. If you are not a Storyful client and would like to discuss Verify or our free Video Marketplace, please contact us
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lets hope this basic idea is not lock by some illusory copyrights
31 May 2017 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Fake news and fake content are not new to social media. For more than six years, Storyful has strived to identify the real from the fabricated and to provide our partners with the gold standard in social verification.
Every day our newsroom is communicating with news organizations, eyewitnesses and potential sources globally and separating fact from fiction. We discover and validate the content that is shaping the news agenda. To do that we combine best-in-class journalism and proprietary technology to quickly and accurately sift through masses of social posts on a daily basis. Today, we are launching a tool intended to help Storyful Newswire and Storyful Marketplace partners determine if a piece of content has been validated by our newsroom, anywhere on the social web.
The tool is called Verify and Storyful partners can download it from the Chrome store via this link. It is available for Storyful Newswire and Storyful Marketplace subscribers at no extra cost.
Verify will give partners a direct line of sight into content currently on the Storyful Newswire or Storyful Marketplace. If a piece of content is not on our system, partners can contact Storyful directly through Verify to request clearance or ask about potential licensing opportunities.
https://storyful.com/blog/2016/11/22/introducing-verify-your-direct-line-from-the-social-web-to-storyful/
Every day our newsroom is communicating with news organizations, eyewitnesses and potential sources globally and separating fact from fiction. We discover and validate the content that is shaping the news agenda. To do that we combine best-in-class journalism and proprietary technology to quickly and accurately sift through masses of social posts on a daily basis. Today, we are launching a tool intended to help Storyful Newswire and Storyful Marketplace partners determine if a piece of content has been validated by our newsroom, anywhere on the social web.
The tool is called Verify and Storyful partners can download it from the Chrome store via this link. It is available for Storyful Newswire and Storyful Marketplace subscribers at no extra cost.
Verify will give partners a direct line of sight into content currently on the Storyful Newswire or Storyful Marketplace. If a piece of content is not on our system, partners can contact Storyful directly through Verify to request clearance or ask about potential licensing opportunities.
https://storyful.com/blog/2016/11/22/introducing-verify-your-direct-line-from-the-social-web-to-storyful/
https://storyful.com/blog/2016/11/22/introducing-verify-your-direct-line-from-the-social-web-to-storyful/
31 May 2017 01:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
interesting semy-headline "How o protect Yourself from trump tweets"
"The question for other business is how they can safeguard themselves against Trump Tweets? We have a few thoughts.
Act Fast – Set the record straight as soon as possible in the same arena. The time from tweet to news cycle is minutes so communication teams need real-time alerting and they to need to respond on the same social channel.
Measure the Long Tail – Tracking the different strains of conversation is essential to understanding the full impact on the business and informing reactive strategic messaging.
Generate Content – Various assets are needed to shape the narrative including posts, video and visual content. Businesses risk falling victim to the Trump Effect without these three components.
Businesses will need to develop strategies to effectively manage their reputation for the next four years. It’s imperative they identify the right approach, the right mix of partners and the right balance to manage and protect their brand reputation and financial bottom line.
"The question for other business is how they can safeguard themselves against Trump Tweets? We have a few thoughts.
Act Fast – Set the record straight as soon as possible in the same arena. The time from tweet to news cycle is minutes so communication teams need real-time alerting and they to need to respond on the same social channel.
Measure the Long Tail – Tracking the different strains of conversation is essential to understanding the full impact on the business and informing reactive strategic messaging.
Generate Content – Various assets are needed to shape the narrative including posts, video and visual content. Businesses risk falling victim to the Trump Effect without these three components.
Businesses will need to develop strategies to effectively manage their reputation for the next four years. It’s imperative they identify the right approach, the right mix of partners and the right balance to manage and protect their brand reputation and financial bottom line.
31 May 2017 01:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Compounding the issue is the long tail impact generated by media coverage. We measured media coverage of those top ten tweets and found they led to an incredible 11,400 unique articles of digital news coverage. The media cycle points to the long tail implications on the public perception that a Trump Tweet may render.
For example, Storyful tracked conversations about GM/Chevy following Trump’s inflammatory tweets on January 3rd. Here are some of the trends we saw:
This tweet resulted in a 62% increase in social media conversations among males talking about purchasing a diesel car and sparked uncertainty about purchasing decisions.
US-based Hispanics who were considering buying a vehicle engaged in droves to Trump’s tweets on GM/Chevy and on Ford’s decision (later reversed) to base a plant in Mexico. They were discouraged by Trump’s protectionism, with many potential Hispanic buyers reacting very negatively towards the news.
GM corrected Trump but no two tweets are the same. The impact of Trump’s was far reaching while GM’s had limited reach. Companies may be required to engage on a specific topic longer to contain the Trump effect.
Other companies are feeling the pain. Trump’s Boeing tweet generated 1,717 articles and the top three media stories racked up over 175,000 shares, likes and comments. Much of the commentary generated by these articles reflected poorly on Boeing, so it’s clear media coverage of Trump’s tweets is driving perception problems around companies and amplifying the effect of the tweets themselves.
For example, Storyful tracked conversations about GM/Chevy following Trump’s inflammatory tweets on January 3rd. Here are some of the trends we saw:
This tweet resulted in a 62% increase in social media conversations among males talking about purchasing a diesel car and sparked uncertainty about purchasing decisions.
US-based Hispanics who were considering buying a vehicle engaged in droves to Trump’s tweets on GM/Chevy and on Ford’s decision (later reversed) to base a plant in Mexico. They were discouraged by Trump’s protectionism, with many potential Hispanic buyers reacting very negatively towards the news.
GM corrected Trump but no two tweets are the same. The impact of Trump’s was far reaching while GM’s had limited reach. Companies may be required to engage on a specific topic longer to contain the Trump effect.
Other companies are feeling the pain. Trump’s Boeing tweet generated 1,717 articles and the top three media stories racked up over 175,000 shares, likes and comments. Much of the commentary generated by these articles reflected poorly on Boeing, so it’s clear media coverage of Trump’s tweets is driving perception problems around companies and amplifying the effect of the tweets themselves.
31 May 2017 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"At Storyful, we spend a lot of time thinking about and solving the challenges of social media for news organizations, brands and communications teams. Our team of expert journalists, content and intelligence strategists wields proprietary technology to track and analyze data across social platforms and make sense of that data in real time in order to deliver insights, video and content businesses need to tell their story.
Our team of intelligence strategists recently examined ten business-specific Trump tweets dating back to November 8th (see those tweets here). We looked at the percentage increase in conversations, the subsequent news articles generated by the tweet and the cumulative effect of both on stock price for individual businesses.
https://storyful.com/blog/2017/02/07/measuring-the-trump-effect-what-one-tweet-can-do-to-your-business/
Our team of intelligence strategists recently examined ten business-specific Trump tweets dating back to November 8th (see those tweets here). We looked at the percentage increase in conversations, the subsequent news articles generated by the tweet and the cumulative effect of both on stock price for individual businesses.
https://storyful.com/blog/2017/02/07/measuring-the-trump-effect-what-one-tweet-can-do-to-your-business/
https://storyful.com/blog/2017/02/07/measuring-the-trump-effect-what-one-tweet-can-do-to-your-business/
31 May 2017 01:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//personalte note
30 May 2017 23:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but whatever we say, is not nice to say so "Rich People Don’t Want Ivanka Trump’s Fashion
The first daughter aimed her label at wealthy sophisticated women, but it didn’t take. So she moved downmarket."
Just feeling like that, it is much harder headline then needed,
knowing nothing on her market share (by feeling average-small) nor quality (competitive way upper-good range, by feeling) ... and her public worth as a person and a soul (also feels on the side of upper good, innocent ).. taking this in consideration, then this headline seems a bit to much of unconsidered, specially considering Her father.
The first daughter aimed her label at wealthy sophisticated women, but it didn’t take. So she moved downmarket."
Just feeling like that, it is much harder headline then needed,
knowing nothing on her market share (by feeling average-small) nor quality (competitive way upper-good range, by feeling) ... and her public worth as a person and a soul (also feels on the side of upper good, innocent ).. taking this in consideration, then this headline seems a bit to much of unconsidered, specially considering Her father.
30 May 2017 23:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
AND WHAT is wrong with Bloomerg, to put this flash thingy there, singing, where you can not regulate audio or close it down.
Are You kidding me
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-30/rich-people-don-t-want-ivanka-trump-s-fashion
Are You kidding me
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-30/rich-people-don-t-want-ivanka-trump-s-fashion
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-30/rich-people-don-t-want-ivanka-trump-s-fashion
30 May 2017 23:38
Margus Meigo replied to Mehwish Qayum's comment.
May May but still, for a human, they need to find someone, for who they are the most precious,
why ?
why ?
30 May 2017 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to Mehwish Qayum's comment.
Thank You !
(have not told thank You to anyone for this jet, i think )
(have not told thank You to anyone for this jet, i think )
30 May 2017 21:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but idea it self, is supper great, we (my parents age people) helped to destroy Soviet union like that by exporting porn, Dallas (tv serial), and many other things, up to Finnsih TV food advertisements,
etc.
but yes.. we should have planned it much better
etc.
but yes.. we should have planned it much better
30 May 2017 21:08
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Thompson's link.
Perhaps they can choose something less gay so it would not destroy the culture, but enrich it, from ALL the things in world, they choose "friends" ?
Well, i enjoyed my self this show in youth, but this is not a show to break barriers in culture, as it will BREAK the barriers and make a lot of harm, as we can see from our own culture,
to lengthy list of bad that will fallow, to list in here.,
Or maybe i am confusing with a 2 and half man or something.. but i am sure, it was not the culturally most enriching series, that would show true and enriching picture of the world , real world , practical one
Well, i enjoyed my self this show in youth, but this is not a show to break barriers in culture, as it will BREAK the barriers and make a lot of harm, as we can see from our own culture,
to lengthy list of bad that will fallow, to list in here.,
Or maybe i am confusing with a 2 and half man or something.. but i am sure, it was not the culturally most enriching series, that would show true and enriching picture of the world , real world , practical one
30 May 2017 21:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
a lot of interestingness inside
30 May 2017 21:00
Margus Meigo commented on Jill Greenberg Studio's link.
Usually against abstract CIA communist "art" scams but this one looks real deal
30 May 2017 20:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and all they can, and should, and will be able to experience for the benefit of God
30 May 2017 20:37
Margus Meigo commented on University for Peace's photo.
All planet people, are absolute minimum for me
30 May 2017 20:37
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's photo.
Väga ilus oled ka Siin
ja pilt on väga kena
ja pilt on väga kena
30 May 2017 18:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Touch the psychedelic owl,
It's awesome !
It's awesome !
30 May 2017 17:54
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
And list, "Why is not" also needed perhaps ?
30 May 2017 13:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jago:
"See saast, mis siin kirjas, ei ole isegi väärt paberit, mille peale see jutt kirjutatud on. Ajaloolise tõega ei ole sellele vähimatki pistmist. Oleks aeg juba ENSV aegsest stalinlikust Eesti ajaloo käsitlusest loobuda. Käsitlusest, mis ei põhine mitte ajaloolistel faktidel, vaid Bornhöhe, Kippeli ja teiste rahvusliku ärkamisaja kirjanike ilukirjanduslikel seiklusjuttudel.
1343. aastal ei leidunud ainsatki eestlast, sest see sõna oli tollal veel tundmatu. Ei leidunud ka mingit riiklikku moodustist, mis ligilähedaseltki oleks paiknenud tänase Eestimaa territooriumil. Eestimaa tänapäevases mõistes loodi sajandeid hiljem - nimelt 1796. aastal, mil Tsaari-Venemaal moodustati esmakordselt Eestimaa kubermang. 1343. aasta paiku eksisteerisid tänase Eesti territooriumil muinasmaakonnad, mis tegelikult ei olnud ka mingid maakonnad, kuna puudus ühendav riiklik moodustis, vaid olid iseseisvad kuningriigikesed - Harju, Ugandi, Sakala, Viru, Järva, Lääne, Saare, Revala, Alempois, Mõhu, Jogentagana, Soopoolitse, Vaiga. Need riigikesed ei olnud kaugeltki mitte sõbrasuhetes, vaid olid pidevalt sõjajalal ja korraldasid üksteise juurde regulaarseid rüüsteretki. Puudus igasugune kultuuriline, keeleline või poliitiline ühendav ja integreeriv jõud. Soopoolitse (tänase Alatskivi ümbruse) rahvas tundis kindlasti palju lähemat kultuurilist seost Peipsi taga tänase Venemaa territooriumil elanud vadja hõimudega, kui näiteks saarlaste või läänlastega. Seetõttu on täiesti kohatu kasutada tolleaegsete inimeste kohta sõna "eestlane". Kuna linnarahvas oli valdavas osas saksakeelne, siis kasusid saksakeelsed inimesed kõikide mittesaksakeelsete ehk tundmatus keeles kõnelevate inimeste kohta mõistet "maarahvas".
Muide, ka siinsed "sakslased" ehk saksad olid valdavas enamuses põlised pärismaalased, endisaegne kohalik kõrgklass, kes misjonäride toodud kultuuri, religiooni ja keele ruttu vabatahtlikult omaks võtsid, saades nõnda võimaluse säilitada oma maavaldused, rikkused ja ühiskondliku positsiooni. Olen lugenud ühest kaasajal Saksamaal läbi viidud geeniuuringust, kus leiti, et 1940. aastal Hitleri kutsel Baltimaadest Saksamaale tagasi pöördunud baltisakslased ja nende järeltulijad on geneetiliselt märksa lähedasemad Balti rahvastele kui Saksamaa sakslastele. Seega olid palju kirutud ja põlatud Balti-Saksa mõisnikud suuremas enamuses meie endi kallid rahvuskaaslased, mitte aga kaugelt tulnud anastajad-rõhujad... "
Jagole:
"Kui Sa ainult halvustad ja ise viiteid ei too, siis on sinu kommentaar hoopiski saast.
Senimaani on artikkel loogiline ja usutav.
Mõned Venemaa arheoogid on jõudnud järeldusele, et tänapäeva Eesti piires oli erinevate maakondade kultuur rohkem sarnane üksteisele, kui see kohalikele arheloogidele tundub. Sellest tulenevalt isegi vene arheoloogid (vähemalt mõned) on kasutanud ühtset nimetust eestlased.
Liivimaa kroonikaski on eestlased (vähemalt mandri omad). Esimest korda kirjalikult on arvatavalt eestlastest juttu 79 aastal Tacituse poolt kirjapandud tekstides, rääkimata hilisematest kroonikatest, näit. Skandinaavia saagades ja Hendriku kroonika, isegi piiskop Alberti pItsatil oli peal kiri Esto. Kirjutada, et sõna eestlased ei tuntud 1343 aastal, see on täielik jama ja lugemuse puudumine.
See, et piiriäärsed eestlased suhtlesid naabritega, on igati loogiline, aga, et nad seepärast kohe ei olnud eestlased, on kummaline väljendusavaldus.
Piiriäärsed norrakad tunnevad huvi rootslaste vastu (ajavad alkoäri rootslastega), kas nad sellepärast ei olegi norralased...?
Erinevate maakondade inimesi on minu arvates muinas- ja keskaja kontekstis igati korrektne eestlasteks nimetada.
Sa üritad kujutada muinas- ja keskaja eestlaseid erinevates maakondades üksteisest nii erinevateks, et tekib kujutlus, et äkki elasid mõnes maakonnas mooramaa mehed.
Sellisel juhul oleks pidanud Jago kirjutama ka seda, et sakslased ei olnudki sakslased, sest keskajal olid Saksamaal erinevad haldusüksused, mille järgi neid inimesi kutsuda.
Või hoopiski, alaanideks, teutoonideks, saksideks?
Sa kirjutad, et erinevad maakonnad käisid üksteist regulaarselt röövimas, see on müüt, selle kohta puuduvad tõendid. On loogiline, et aeg-ajalt võis kerkida üles mõni tüli naabriga ja seejärel toimus tapmist ja/või röövimist, usutav on, et need röövimised piirdusid pigem küla või mitme külaga, aga mitte terve maakonnaga. Jutt siis ajast mis oli enne 13. sajandi algust.
Hiljem, muinasaegse vabadusvõitluse ajal ristisõdijatele ja saksa kaupmeestele alla jäänud maakondade eestlased olid kohustatud koos sakslastega minema teiste maakondade eestlaste vastu sõdima, mille käigus ka rööviti (see oli tasu sõjakäigu eest), siit ongi alguse saanud müüt, et käidi üksteist röövimas.
Jago arvates suisa regulaarselt, mis Jago arvates peaks ilmselt tähendama palju... tekib küsimus, milliste ajaliste vahedega regulaarselt, kas kord nädalas, kord kuus, kord aastas?
Artiklis ei ole sõnagi sellest, et Eesti oleks tänapäeva mõistes Jüriöö ülestõusu ajal olnud riik, on kirjas, et eesmärgiks võis olla riikliku moodustise loomine, mis katkes 1208-1227 aastate nn. muinasaegse vabadusvõitluse ajal. Ilmselt ei suuda Jago tähelepanelikult lugeda. "
"See saast, mis siin kirjas, ei ole isegi väärt paberit, mille peale see jutt kirjutatud on. Ajaloolise tõega ei ole sellele vähimatki pistmist. Oleks aeg juba ENSV aegsest stalinlikust Eesti ajaloo käsitlusest loobuda. Käsitlusest, mis ei põhine mitte ajaloolistel faktidel, vaid Bornhöhe, Kippeli ja teiste rahvusliku ärkamisaja kirjanike ilukirjanduslikel seiklusjuttudel.
1343. aastal ei leidunud ainsatki eestlast, sest see sõna oli tollal veel tundmatu. Ei leidunud ka mingit riiklikku moodustist, mis ligilähedaseltki oleks paiknenud tänase Eestimaa territooriumil. Eestimaa tänapäevases mõistes loodi sajandeid hiljem - nimelt 1796. aastal, mil Tsaari-Venemaal moodustati esmakordselt Eestimaa kubermang. 1343. aasta paiku eksisteerisid tänase Eesti territooriumil muinasmaakonnad, mis tegelikult ei olnud ka mingid maakonnad, kuna puudus ühendav riiklik moodustis, vaid olid iseseisvad kuningriigikesed - Harju, Ugandi, Sakala, Viru, Järva, Lääne, Saare, Revala, Alempois, Mõhu, Jogentagana, Soopoolitse, Vaiga. Need riigikesed ei olnud kaugeltki mitte sõbrasuhetes, vaid olid pidevalt sõjajalal ja korraldasid üksteise juurde regulaarseid rüüsteretki. Puudus igasugune kultuuriline, keeleline või poliitiline ühendav ja integreeriv jõud. Soopoolitse (tänase Alatskivi ümbruse) rahvas tundis kindlasti palju lähemat kultuurilist seost Peipsi taga tänase Venemaa territooriumil elanud vadja hõimudega, kui näiteks saarlaste või läänlastega. Seetõttu on täiesti kohatu kasutada tolleaegsete inimeste kohta sõna "eestlane". Kuna linnarahvas oli valdavas osas saksakeelne, siis kasusid saksakeelsed inimesed kõikide mittesaksakeelsete ehk tundmatus keeles kõnelevate inimeste kohta mõistet "maarahvas".
Muide, ka siinsed "sakslased" ehk saksad olid valdavas enamuses põlised pärismaalased, endisaegne kohalik kõrgklass, kes misjonäride toodud kultuuri, religiooni ja keele ruttu vabatahtlikult omaks võtsid, saades nõnda võimaluse säilitada oma maavaldused, rikkused ja ühiskondliku positsiooni. Olen lugenud ühest kaasajal Saksamaal läbi viidud geeniuuringust, kus leiti, et 1940. aastal Hitleri kutsel Baltimaadest Saksamaale tagasi pöördunud baltisakslased ja nende järeltulijad on geneetiliselt märksa lähedasemad Balti rahvastele kui Saksamaa sakslastele. Seega olid palju kirutud ja põlatud Balti-Saksa mõisnikud suuremas enamuses meie endi kallid rahvuskaaslased, mitte aga kaugelt tulnud anastajad-rõhujad... "
Jagole:
"Kui Sa ainult halvustad ja ise viiteid ei too, siis on sinu kommentaar hoopiski saast.
Senimaani on artikkel loogiline ja usutav.
Mõned Venemaa arheoogid on jõudnud järeldusele, et tänapäeva Eesti piires oli erinevate maakondade kultuur rohkem sarnane üksteisele, kui see kohalikele arheloogidele tundub. Sellest tulenevalt isegi vene arheoloogid (vähemalt mõned) on kasutanud ühtset nimetust eestlased.
Liivimaa kroonikaski on eestlased (vähemalt mandri omad). Esimest korda kirjalikult on arvatavalt eestlastest juttu 79 aastal Tacituse poolt kirjapandud tekstides, rääkimata hilisematest kroonikatest, näit. Skandinaavia saagades ja Hendriku kroonika, isegi piiskop Alberti pItsatil oli peal kiri Esto. Kirjutada, et sõna eestlased ei tuntud 1343 aastal, see on täielik jama ja lugemuse puudumine.
See, et piiriäärsed eestlased suhtlesid naabritega, on igati loogiline, aga, et nad seepärast kohe ei olnud eestlased, on kummaline väljendusavaldus.
Piiriäärsed norrakad tunnevad huvi rootslaste vastu (ajavad alkoäri rootslastega), kas nad sellepärast ei olegi norralased...?
Erinevate maakondade inimesi on minu arvates muinas- ja keskaja kontekstis igati korrektne eestlasteks nimetada.
Sa üritad kujutada muinas- ja keskaja eestlaseid erinevates maakondades üksteisest nii erinevateks, et tekib kujutlus, et äkki elasid mõnes maakonnas mooramaa mehed.
Sellisel juhul oleks pidanud Jago kirjutama ka seda, et sakslased ei olnudki sakslased, sest keskajal olid Saksamaal erinevad haldusüksused, mille järgi neid inimesi kutsuda.
Või hoopiski, alaanideks, teutoonideks, saksideks?
Sa kirjutad, et erinevad maakonnad käisid üksteist regulaarselt röövimas, see on müüt, selle kohta puuduvad tõendid. On loogiline, et aeg-ajalt võis kerkida üles mõni tüli naabriga ja seejärel toimus tapmist ja/või röövimist, usutav on, et need röövimised piirdusid pigem küla või mitme külaga, aga mitte terve maakonnaga. Jutt siis ajast mis oli enne 13. sajandi algust.
Hiljem, muinasaegse vabadusvõitluse ajal ristisõdijatele ja saksa kaupmeestele alla jäänud maakondade eestlased olid kohustatud koos sakslastega minema teiste maakondade eestlaste vastu sõdima, mille käigus ka rööviti (see oli tasu sõjakäigu eest), siit ongi alguse saanud müüt, et käidi üksteist röövimas.
Jago arvates suisa regulaarselt, mis Jago arvates peaks ilmselt tähendama palju... tekib küsimus, milliste ajaliste vahedega regulaarselt, kas kord nädalas, kord kuus, kord aastas?
Artiklis ei ole sõnagi sellest, et Eesti oleks tänapäeva mõistes Jüriöö ülestõusu ajal olnud riik, on kirjas, et eesmärgiks võis olla riikliku moodustise loomine, mis katkes 1208-1227 aastate nn. muinasaegse vabadusvõitluse ajal. Ilmselt ei suuda Jago tähelepanelikult lugeda. "
30 May 2017 03:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ajaloohuviline:
"Teemaga seonduvalt veel küsimus, et kui palju tegelikult võis "Eesti kuningatel" olla sõjalist jõudu orduga sõdimiseks? Ordu allikates pakutud 10 000, millega Tallinnat piirati on ilmne liialdus. Pakun, et 1000 ringis, võimalik, et veelgi vähem. Pean siin silmas sisuliselt sõjaks valmis olevaid üksuseid, mitte lihtsalt inimeste massi, kellele mingid relvad kätte anti. Sellest, et relvastatud jõude nappis olid ordu vastased vasallid ka teadlikud, mida näitab kokku lepitud taktika vältida lahinguid avamaal, Rootsi abivägede nõutamine, läbirääkimised jms. Ordumeister, olles kindlaks teinud vastase jõudude suuruse ennetas Rootsi abivägede saabumist ja viis saksa täpsuse ja põhjalikkusega läbi nn "lõpliku lahenduse" mis kõrvaldas orduvastased vasallid ja ka võimaliku inimressursi, kust vastupanu võinuks tulevikus nähtuda. Hiljem kirjutati ka mingi selgitus kokku "talupoegade mässust".
Samas, kui oleks suudetud foogtide poolt Soomest üsna kiiresti saabunud vägedega ühineda, siis kes teab, mis oleks saanud. Võimalik, et midagi Bohdan Hmelnitski poolt Ukrainas tehtu sarnast, kus kohalikud ülikud Poola kohalike võimumeeste vastu välja astusid, nendega ühines üha rohkem rahvast ja kogu asi läks kiiresti kontrolli alt välja. "
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alternatiiv parallel reaalsus:
"muidugi,aega ju oli. saja aasta kestel olid eestlased sügaval metsade ja rabade keskel ette valmistanud oma armeed. Poisikesed käisid sakslaste-liivlase tagant mõõku ja odasid varastamas ning need olid tugev lisa oma seppade soorauast taotud mõõkadele. Naisad keerutasid võid ,kudusid kangastelgedel sidumismaterjale. Ärksamad noorikud viisid läbi teistele naistele esmaabi kiirkursuseid. Treebuldi küla kuningas(külavanem) ehitas toreda kivipildumise masina,kuid sõtta kaasa võtta seda ei õnnestunud. Nimelt lohistitega ei saanud neid suvel kuidagi transportida ,aga ratas oli eesti maameestele veel tundmatu. "
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""Huvitav on see et eestlased ja soomlased kasutavad selle sõna algset vormi, alg-germaani keeles oli see justnimelt "kuningaz". "king", "kung","konung", "könig" ja isegi "knjaz" on kõik selle äraväänatud tuletised."
Kundla, -kunta / Kunda / -kond / koond = (alade) hulk, mis on (lepinguliselt) ühinenud. "
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"Teemaga seonduvalt veel küsimus, et kui palju tegelikult võis "Eesti kuningatel" olla sõjalist jõudu orduga sõdimiseks? Ordu allikates pakutud 10 000, millega Tallinnat piirati on ilmne liialdus. Pakun, et 1000 ringis, võimalik, et veelgi vähem. Pean siin silmas sisuliselt sõjaks valmis olevaid üksuseid, mitte lihtsalt inimeste massi, kellele mingid relvad kätte anti. Sellest, et relvastatud jõude nappis olid ordu vastased vasallid ka teadlikud, mida näitab kokku lepitud taktika vältida lahinguid avamaal, Rootsi abivägede nõutamine, läbirääkimised jms. Ordumeister, olles kindlaks teinud vastase jõudude suuruse ennetas Rootsi abivägede saabumist ja viis saksa täpsuse ja põhjalikkusega läbi nn "lõpliku lahenduse" mis kõrvaldas orduvastased vasallid ja ka võimaliku inimressursi, kust vastupanu võinuks tulevikus nähtuda. Hiljem kirjutati ka mingi selgitus kokku "talupoegade mässust".
Samas, kui oleks suudetud foogtide poolt Soomest üsna kiiresti saabunud vägedega ühineda, siis kes teab, mis oleks saanud. Võimalik, et midagi Bohdan Hmelnitski poolt Ukrainas tehtu sarnast, kus kohalikud ülikud Poola kohalike võimumeeste vastu välja astusid, nendega ühines üha rohkem rahvast ja kogu asi läks kiiresti kontrolli alt välja. "
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alternatiiv parallel reaalsus:
"muidugi,aega ju oli. saja aasta kestel olid eestlased sügaval metsade ja rabade keskel ette valmistanud oma armeed. Poisikesed käisid sakslaste-liivlase tagant mõõku ja odasid varastamas ning need olid tugev lisa oma seppade soorauast taotud mõõkadele. Naisad keerutasid võid ,kudusid kangastelgedel sidumismaterjale. Ärksamad noorikud viisid läbi teistele naistele esmaabi kiirkursuseid. Treebuldi küla kuningas(külavanem) ehitas toreda kivipildumise masina,kuid sõtta kaasa võtta seda ei õnnestunud. Nimelt lohistitega ei saanud neid suvel kuidagi transportida ,aga ratas oli eesti maameestele veel tundmatu. "
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""Huvitav on see et eestlased ja soomlased kasutavad selle sõna algset vormi, alg-germaani keeles oli see justnimelt "kuningaz". "king", "kung","konung", "könig" ja isegi "knjaz" on kõik selle äraväänatud tuletised."
Kundla, -kunta / Kunda / -kond / koond = (alade) hulk, mis on (lepinguliselt) ühinenud. "
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30 May 2017 03:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tagasi tulevikku
" Huvitav oleks täna teada,mida teatakse ja mida kirjutatakse eesti ajaloo kohta 600 aasta pärast ja kas see omavahel ka klapib:D "
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"Valgevene nimi on siiski vanem ja selle päritolu teada. Valge tähendas tollal maksuvaba. Polotski, Minski ja Turovi vürstiriigid jäid mongolitele allutamata ja ei pidanud Kuldhordile andamit maksma. Neid hakatigi valgeks Veneks kutsuma. "
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"madisoni taolised mehed ütlesid lähme lööme need koerad maha ja asi vask, paedi taolised ütlesid pea kinni räägime ikka viisakalt läbi mihkelsoni taolised kiitsid takka jaa määrame piirid kindlaks nii läkski, selle väikse kivipeldiku oleks võinud kivihaaval lahti võtta järelikult seesolijad ei kartnud väljas olevat väge see ei kujutanud sõjalist jõudu "
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" ei alustatud jõupositsioonilt vaid loodeti poliitilisele blufile kokkulepped abiväed jne "
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" realist on suht loogiliselt olukorda kirjeldanud mind huvitab rohkem mentaalsus mis viib alati samade tagajärgedeni "
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" Huvitav oleks täna teada,mida teatakse ja mida kirjutatakse eesti ajaloo kohta 600 aasta pärast ja kas see omavahel ka klapib:D "
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"Valgevene nimi on siiski vanem ja selle päritolu teada. Valge tähendas tollal maksuvaba. Polotski, Minski ja Turovi vürstiriigid jäid mongolitele allutamata ja ei pidanud Kuldhordile andamit maksma. Neid hakatigi valgeks Veneks kutsuma. "
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"madisoni taolised mehed ütlesid lähme lööme need koerad maha ja asi vask, paedi taolised ütlesid pea kinni räägime ikka viisakalt läbi mihkelsoni taolised kiitsid takka jaa määrame piirid kindlaks nii läkski, selle väikse kivipeldiku oleks võinud kivihaaval lahti võtta järelikult seesolijad ei kartnud väljas olevat väge see ei kujutanud sõjalist jõudu "
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" ei alustatud jõupositsioonilt vaid loodeti poliitilisele blufile kokkulepped abiväed jne "
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" realist on suht loogiliselt olukorda kirjeldanud mind huvitab rohkem mentaalsus mis viib alati samade tagajärgedeni "
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30 May 2017 03:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Carmel:
"Kuressaarest ca 12 km Leisi poole on Uduvere küla, kus asub Wesse talu. Viimane kuulus kuni 1.Maailmasõjani Saaremaa rüütelkonna mõisale, mille keskne osa paiknes Kuressaare praeguse idapoolse eestlinna kohal (nn. endise EPT kohal). Kas see vähemalt mitmesaja-aastane talunimi võib olla seotud Jüriöö ülestõusu mässaja Wessega? Asub ju tal vaid ca 5-6 km Kaarma vanast eestlaste maalinnast? "
E.v.L.h
"Carmelile:
Wesse on tuletatud 1343. aastal valitsenud Tartu piiskopist Wescelinusest. Sellist "mässajat" pole kunagi eksisteerinud, puhas Hoeneke väljamõeldis. (Padises "tapetud" munkadele ja väidetavasti 10 000 (?) mahalöödud vasallile koos perekondadega ei jõudnud isegi Hoeneke nimesid välja mõelda ja nii nad anonüümsetena ajalukku läksidki)."
"...aktiivsest sõjategevusest üle 100 aasta möödunud..."
1248-1250 - Tallinna linna pealik Stigot Agison kirjutab ühes Tallinna rae ja kodanikkonnaga Lüübekisse, paludes abi novgorodlaste vägivallategude all kannatanuile.
1253 - Novgorodlased ja karjalased laastavad maa-ala lääne pool Narva jõge.
1262 - Venelaste sõjakäik Tartu vastu. Ei suudeta vallutada kindlust, kuid linn võetakse ära ja "palju tapeti selle linna rahvast; ja teisi võeti elusalt ja teisi põletati tulega, ja võeti nende naised ja lapsed; ja võeti ka vara ilma arvuta ja saaki".
1267 - Venelaste rüüsteretk Rakvere ümbrusse. Laastatakse laialt maad.
1268 - Jaanuaris tuleb mitu vene vürsti oma vägedega (30 000 meest) üle Narva jõe Rakvere alla, hävitades teel hulga koopasse põgenenud eestlasi. Koobastikku juhiti vesi ja väljatulijad tapeti. 18. veebruaril leidis aset Kihola jõel verine lahing venelaste ja sakslaste-eestlaste vahel. Venelased saavad lüüa. Novgorodi vürst Dovmont rüüstab tagasiteel Virumaad.
1342 - Vürst Juri Vitovtovit?i sõjakäik Vastseliina. Kallaletungijad lüüakse sakslaste poolt ränkade kaotustega tagasi.
1343 - Mais tungivad pihkvalased oma vürsti Ivani, Irboska vürsti Ostapi ja possadnik Volod?a juhatusel 5000-mehelise sõjaväega Otepääni, rüüstates teel asetsevaid külasid. Viie päeva pärast pöörduvad nad rikkaliku röövsaagiga tagasi.
+ veel ordu ja piiskoppide omavahelised sõjad, siis veel sõjad leedulastega jne... "
To E.v.L.h
" Mõeldud oli just Taani võimu all olnud alasid. Seal valitses siiski suhteline rahuaeg. "
"Kuressaarest ca 12 km Leisi poole on Uduvere küla, kus asub Wesse talu. Viimane kuulus kuni 1.Maailmasõjani Saaremaa rüütelkonna mõisale, mille keskne osa paiknes Kuressaare praeguse idapoolse eestlinna kohal (nn. endise EPT kohal). Kas see vähemalt mitmesaja-aastane talunimi võib olla seotud Jüriöö ülestõusu mässaja Wessega? Asub ju tal vaid ca 5-6 km Kaarma vanast eestlaste maalinnast? "
E.v.L.h
"Carmelile:
Wesse on tuletatud 1343. aastal valitsenud Tartu piiskopist Wescelinusest. Sellist "mässajat" pole kunagi eksisteerinud, puhas Hoeneke väljamõeldis. (Padises "tapetud" munkadele ja väidetavasti 10 000 (?) mahalöödud vasallile koos perekondadega ei jõudnud isegi Hoeneke nimesid välja mõelda ja nii nad anonüümsetena ajalukku läksidki)."
"...aktiivsest sõjategevusest üle 100 aasta möödunud..."
1248-1250 - Tallinna linna pealik Stigot Agison kirjutab ühes Tallinna rae ja kodanikkonnaga Lüübekisse, paludes abi novgorodlaste vägivallategude all kannatanuile.
1253 - Novgorodlased ja karjalased laastavad maa-ala lääne pool Narva jõge.
1262 - Venelaste sõjakäik Tartu vastu. Ei suudeta vallutada kindlust, kuid linn võetakse ära ja "palju tapeti selle linna rahvast; ja teisi võeti elusalt ja teisi põletati tulega, ja võeti nende naised ja lapsed; ja võeti ka vara ilma arvuta ja saaki".
1267 - Venelaste rüüsteretk Rakvere ümbrusse. Laastatakse laialt maad.
1268 - Jaanuaris tuleb mitu vene vürsti oma vägedega (30 000 meest) üle Narva jõe Rakvere alla, hävitades teel hulga koopasse põgenenud eestlasi. Koobastikku juhiti vesi ja väljatulijad tapeti. 18. veebruaril leidis aset Kihola jõel verine lahing venelaste ja sakslaste-eestlaste vahel. Venelased saavad lüüa. Novgorodi vürst Dovmont rüüstab tagasiteel Virumaad.
1342 - Vürst Juri Vitovtovit?i sõjakäik Vastseliina. Kallaletungijad lüüakse sakslaste poolt ränkade kaotustega tagasi.
1343 - Mais tungivad pihkvalased oma vürsti Ivani, Irboska vürsti Ostapi ja possadnik Volod?a juhatusel 5000-mehelise sõjaväega Otepääni, rüüstates teel asetsevaid külasid. Viie päeva pärast pöörduvad nad rikkaliku röövsaagiga tagasi.
+ veel ordu ja piiskoppide omavahelised sõjad, siis veel sõjad leedulastega jne... "
To E.v.L.h
" Mõeldud oli just Taani võimu all olnud alasid. Seal valitses siiski suhteline rahuaeg. "
30 May 2017 03:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sõjaväehuviline:
"Erinevate ajalooliste sündmuste käsitlusel see probleem ongi, et hilisem võitja kirjutab nii nagu tema huvides on. Seega neid väheseid kirjalikke allikaid (ordu kontrolli all loodud) ei saa antud juhul tõepärastena võtta. Küsitav on tõesti Padise kloostri asukate tapmine, mis eestlaste süüks pandud. Miks seda vaja oli? Ka need laused, mis väidetavatele kuningatele suhu on pandud, et "iga saksa soost isik vääris surma jms" näib propagandana, et hiljem õigustada sisuliselt ordu poolt läbi viidud genotsiidi Harjumaal. Üldse kumab igast ordult pärinevalt kirjalikust ajalooallikast läbi soov kohalikke näidata lihtsa harimatu massina ja pööblina. Sisulist poliitilist intriigi ja kohalike osa selles, mis sel ajal siin tegelikult oli maha vaikides. Igal juhul ordu oma eesmärgi saavutas, sest ellu jäänud Harjumaa, Saaremaa elanike staatus halvenes oluliselt ja maa saadi täielikult oma kontrolli alla.
Lisada võiks veel huvitava näite Leedu suurhetmani Janusz Radziwilli püüdlustest Poola riigile keerulisel ajal iseseisva Leedu suurvürstiriigi loomiseks (tunnustades kuningana Rootsi kuningat), mida Poola ajalookäsitlus üheselt reetmisena käsitleb. Samas eks sealgi võis olla soov piirkonnale suurema sõltumatuse saavutamine, kuigi eks omakasugi olnud mängus. Huvitav on ka näiteks nime "Valgevene" teke, mis ühe ajalookäsitluse järgi võeti kasutusele alles Vene Keisririigi ajal, et "kustutada" ajaloost litviinide periood- väidetavalt praegusel Valgevene territooriumil elanud slaavi hõimude ajalugu, kes moodustasidki koos praeguse leedu alal elanud hõimudega liidus olles Leedu Suurvürstiriigi selgroo ja peamise inimressursi sõdades. Seega on leedulased end paljuski ehtinud võõraste sulgedega ning hilisem nimi- leedu pärit hoopis sealt. Ka Leedu riigi vapp peaks olema ühe käsitluse järgi pärit slaavi hõimudelt (väidetavalt tegu on ühe slaavi sõjajumala kujutisega). "
"Erinevate ajalooliste sündmuste käsitlusel see probleem ongi, et hilisem võitja kirjutab nii nagu tema huvides on. Seega neid väheseid kirjalikke allikaid (ordu kontrolli all loodud) ei saa antud juhul tõepärastena võtta. Küsitav on tõesti Padise kloostri asukate tapmine, mis eestlaste süüks pandud. Miks seda vaja oli? Ka need laused, mis väidetavatele kuningatele suhu on pandud, et "iga saksa soost isik vääris surma jms" näib propagandana, et hiljem õigustada sisuliselt ordu poolt läbi viidud genotsiidi Harjumaal. Üldse kumab igast ordult pärinevalt kirjalikust ajalooallikast läbi soov kohalikke näidata lihtsa harimatu massina ja pööblina. Sisulist poliitilist intriigi ja kohalike osa selles, mis sel ajal siin tegelikult oli maha vaikides. Igal juhul ordu oma eesmärgi saavutas, sest ellu jäänud Harjumaa, Saaremaa elanike staatus halvenes oluliselt ja maa saadi täielikult oma kontrolli alla.
Lisada võiks veel huvitava näite Leedu suurhetmani Janusz Radziwilli püüdlustest Poola riigile keerulisel ajal iseseisva Leedu suurvürstiriigi loomiseks (tunnustades kuningana Rootsi kuningat), mida Poola ajalookäsitlus üheselt reetmisena käsitleb. Samas eks sealgi võis olla soov piirkonnale suurema sõltumatuse saavutamine, kuigi eks omakasugi olnud mängus. Huvitav on ka näiteks nime "Valgevene" teke, mis ühe ajalookäsitluse järgi võeti kasutusele alles Vene Keisririigi ajal, et "kustutada" ajaloost litviinide periood- väidetavalt praegusel Valgevene territooriumil elanud slaavi hõimude ajalugu, kes moodustasidki koos praeguse leedu alal elanud hõimudega liidus olles Leedu Suurvürstiriigi selgroo ja peamise inimressursi sõdades. Seega on leedulased end paljuski ehtinud võõraste sulgedega ning hilisem nimi- leedu pärit hoopis sealt. Ka Leedu riigi vapp peaks olema ühe käsitluse järgi pärit slaavi hõimudelt (väidetavalt tegu on ühe slaavi sõjajumala kujutisega). "
30 May 2017 03:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Realist:
"Kogu analüüs on kirjutatud eeldusel, et ülestõus OLI. Aga selle ülestõusu dokumentaalne tõestus on peamiselt pärit Ordu enda kirjutatud Riimkroonikast. Siis Orduluuletusest.
Väga õigesti mainiti ära Taani tollast kehva majandusseisu, aga millegi pärast jäeti mainimata, et selline surutis ei andnud Taani kuningale võimalust oma väega Eestisse asju klaarima tulla. Ja Ordu sai sellest hästi sotti. Niisiis võis hoopis Ordu planeerida Põhja Eesti ülevõtmist, millest said sündida ka konfliktid näiteks Ordu vasalide või Ordut pooldavate vasalide ja tõenäoliselt suures osas eesti soost vasalide vahel. Loomulikult oli siis tegemist korra rikkumisega, mile peale oli ka loomulik m inna Taani Kuningale kaebama.
Aga kui see vastas, et"saate vajadusel nt. Turu foogti poole abi paluma minna ja olete vasalid - koguge siis vägi kokku ja lööge jõhkardid tagas."? Koos väljaõppinud foogtiväega olete piisav jõud Taani huvide kaitsmiseks.
Arvestame, et aktiivsest sõjategevusest oli ca 100 aastat möödunud, mis tähendas tegelikult nelja inimpõlve sõjalise kogemuse puudumist. Kui vasallid oma väe vastavalt vasalikohusele kokku kogusidki, pidid nad hakkama seda kõigepealt sõjaliselt välja õpetama. Selleks ka laager Sõjamäel.
Siis on ka aru saadav, et mitte mingi abstraktne "eestlaste arvestatav sõjajõud" vaid just head sidemed Taaniga võisid ola Turu Foogti abi taga. Mässjaid talupoegi muide ei võetud läbirääkimistele vaid poodi esimese puu otsa. Ja "enne ülestõusu" mingi "abi lubamine mässu kavandatavatele Taani alamatele...." Jaburdus!
Kui aga kohalikele oli teada Ordu rünnaku planeeritav tähtaeg (mis oli just sügisel igati kooskõlas tollaste sõjatavadega), siis leppisid nad ka Turu foogtiga kokku seles, et too jõuab enne Ordu rünnakut kohale..
Ordu omalt poolt sai teada Turu foogti tulekust ja sai aru, et see tähendab plaanide läbikukkumist. Ning asus teele veel enne kuim opli oma vägede ja liitlaste kokkukogumisega valmis, siis kiirustades.
Nagu näha polnud kumbki osapool lahinguks veel valmis ja üritas nii tegutseda, kui vastaspoole tegevust takistada.
Tolleaegseid kombeid teades võis arvata, et Dreinlebeni plaan jätta vaenlane ilma juhtideta, polnud üldist kombestikku arvestades teistele pähegi tulnud. Tegemist oli ikka VÄGA jultunud ja matsliku teoga. Ja nii siis mindi läbirääkimistele, et võita aega Turu foogti saabumiseni.
Kui nüüd Ordu ründas läbirääkimiste tulemusi ootavat sõjavaäge, miline loomulikult polnud lahingukorras ja oli jäänud ilma ka juhtidest, oli selge, et olukord oli Ordu kasuks.
Ja see, et siinset väge ikka ja tas tõmmati tilist läbirääkimistega räägib sele kasuks, et läbi rääkisid n.ö. rüütlid ja aadlimehed. Siis läbirääkijate autunde peale oldi kindlad. Aga seda Ordu poolt polnud mitte.
See, mis järgnes lahingule, oli ordu poolt kohalike vasalide mahatapmine, sest ega küll küllale liiga ei tee ja tegelikult see Ordul plaanis oligi. Nii, et julmused "mõisnike" vastu võis olla Ordu enda kätetöö kirjeldus, kandituna üle olematute mässjate õlgadele. Aga need ei saanud ennast kaitsta, sest olid maha tapetud. Siia alla sab julgesti panna ka Padise kloostri satuse. Ordul oli vastav kogemus juba 1233.aastast kenasti olemas.
Aga et talupoegade mäss?
Vaadake, kui milegagi üldse oli võimalik oma samme õigustada, siis just sellega, sest Euroopas toimus taolisi asju ja selest "saadi aru".
Siin kommetaariruumis ei saa ju väiteid ja fakte põhjalikult analüüsida, sestap siis seisukoha näiv pealiskaudsus. Aga ma kirjeldasingi seisukohta.
Vaat kui uurida ilma Riimkroonikast pimestatuna arhiive Taanis ja Vatikanis...
Ah soo, kui asi juba oli nagu oli ja siinkandis polnudki ordule parasjagu võrdväärset sõjalist jõudu vastu panna, oli reaalpoliitiliselt kasulikum asja üle pikemalt mitte õiendada ja niigi kaotatud alad "valuraha" eest maha müüa.
Ja nii see läks. "
// toimetamiseks
Veel vabandus. Mitte sügisest, vaid kevadest on jutt ja see ei olnud tavaline sõjapidamise aeg.
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"Kogu analüüs on kirjutatud eeldusel, et ülestõus OLI. Aga selle ülestõusu dokumentaalne tõestus on peamiselt pärit Ordu enda kirjutatud Riimkroonikast. Siis Orduluuletusest.
Väga õigesti mainiti ära Taani tollast kehva majandusseisu, aga millegi pärast jäeti mainimata, et selline surutis ei andnud Taani kuningale võimalust oma väega Eestisse asju klaarima tulla. Ja Ordu sai sellest hästi sotti. Niisiis võis hoopis Ordu planeerida Põhja Eesti ülevõtmist, millest said sündida ka konfliktid näiteks Ordu vasalide või Ordut pooldavate vasalide ja tõenäoliselt suures osas eesti soost vasalide vahel. Loomulikult oli siis tegemist korra rikkumisega, mile peale oli ka loomulik m inna Taani Kuningale kaebama.
Aga kui see vastas, et"saate vajadusel nt. Turu foogti poole abi paluma minna ja olete vasalid - koguge siis vägi kokku ja lööge jõhkardid tagas."? Koos väljaõppinud foogtiväega olete piisav jõud Taani huvide kaitsmiseks.
Arvestame, et aktiivsest sõjategevusest oli ca 100 aastat möödunud, mis tähendas tegelikult nelja inimpõlve sõjalise kogemuse puudumist. Kui vasallid oma väe vastavalt vasalikohusele kokku kogusidki, pidid nad hakkama seda kõigepealt sõjaliselt välja õpetama. Selleks ka laager Sõjamäel.
Siis on ka aru saadav, et mitte mingi abstraktne "eestlaste arvestatav sõjajõud" vaid just head sidemed Taaniga võisid ola Turu Foogti abi taga. Mässjaid talupoegi muide ei võetud läbirääkimistele vaid poodi esimese puu otsa. Ja "enne ülestõusu" mingi "abi lubamine mässu kavandatavatele Taani alamatele...." Jaburdus!
Kui aga kohalikele oli teada Ordu rünnaku planeeritav tähtaeg (mis oli just sügisel igati kooskõlas tollaste sõjatavadega), siis leppisid nad ka Turu foogtiga kokku seles, et too jõuab enne Ordu rünnakut kohale..
Ordu omalt poolt sai teada Turu foogti tulekust ja sai aru, et see tähendab plaanide läbikukkumist. Ning asus teele veel enne kuim opli oma vägede ja liitlaste kokkukogumisega valmis, siis kiirustades.
Nagu näha polnud kumbki osapool lahinguks veel valmis ja üritas nii tegutseda, kui vastaspoole tegevust takistada.
Tolleaegseid kombeid teades võis arvata, et Dreinlebeni plaan jätta vaenlane ilma juhtideta, polnud üldist kombestikku arvestades teistele pähegi tulnud. Tegemist oli ikka VÄGA jultunud ja matsliku teoga. Ja nii siis mindi läbirääkimistele, et võita aega Turu foogti saabumiseni.
Kui nüüd Ordu ründas läbirääkimiste tulemusi ootavat sõjavaäge, miline loomulikult polnud lahingukorras ja oli jäänud ilma ka juhtidest, oli selge, et olukord oli Ordu kasuks.
Ja see, et siinset väge ikka ja tas tõmmati tilist läbirääkimistega räägib sele kasuks, et läbi rääkisid n.ö. rüütlid ja aadlimehed. Siis läbirääkijate autunde peale oldi kindlad. Aga seda Ordu poolt polnud mitte.
See, mis järgnes lahingule, oli ordu poolt kohalike vasalide mahatapmine, sest ega küll küllale liiga ei tee ja tegelikult see Ordul plaanis oligi. Nii, et julmused "mõisnike" vastu võis olla Ordu enda kätetöö kirjeldus, kandituna üle olematute mässjate õlgadele. Aga need ei saanud ennast kaitsta, sest olid maha tapetud. Siia alla sab julgesti panna ka Padise kloostri satuse. Ordul oli vastav kogemus juba 1233.aastast kenasti olemas.
Aga et talupoegade mäss?
Vaadake, kui milegagi üldse oli võimalik oma samme õigustada, siis just sellega, sest Euroopas toimus taolisi asju ja selest "saadi aru".
Siin kommetaariruumis ei saa ju väiteid ja fakte põhjalikult analüüsida, sestap siis seisukoha näiv pealiskaudsus. Aga ma kirjeldasingi seisukohta.
Vaat kui uurida ilma Riimkroonikast pimestatuna arhiive Taanis ja Vatikanis...
Ah soo, kui asi juba oli nagu oli ja siinkandis polnudki ordule parasjagu võrdväärset sõjalist jõudu vastu panna, oli reaalpoliitiliselt kasulikum asja üle pikemalt mitte õiendada ja niigi kaotatud alad "valuraha" eest maha müüa.
Ja nii see läks. "
// toimetamiseks
Veel vabandus. Mitte sügisest, vaid kevadest on jutt ja see ei olnud tavaline sõjapidamise aeg.
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30 May 2017 03:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nõrk taktika:
" Miks leedukad süstemaatiliselt fritsukesi peksid, kuigi kurjusepesa-Preisimaa oli neil otse külje all? "
noh: "Mis mõttes see Preisimaa siis "kurjusepesa" oli? Preislased ja leedulased olid lähisugulased, nii nagu eestlased ja liivlased. Vahe ainult selles, et kui liivlased pöörati sakslaste poolt ära mõne aastaga, siis preislased hakkasid sakslastele vastu üle 60 aasta, enne kui Teutooni ordule alistusid. Leedu oli selleks ajaks juba sõjaliselt tugev (ja kristlik) suurvürstiriik, kui ordu päriselt nende piiride alla oli jõudnud. "
Teine tera: "Leedu oli kristlusest kaugel, kui fritsukesi Saule, Durbe, Aizkraukle lahinguis korralikult peksis.Lihtsalt igale fritsukeste põlvkonnale (ca 20 aasta tagant) tuli keretäis anda, et himu kaoks. Rüütleid värvati isegi Inglismaalt, kes leedukate käe läbi oma armetu otsa leidsid. Taktika pidi leedukatel hea olema, kui Durbes 150 plekkmeest, Aizkraukles 71 maha löödi jne "
"mitte leedukate...
Seda slaaviputru, mis tollal smolenski ja Ida-Preisimaa vahele jäi, võib ainult tinglikult leedukateks nimetada, nii poola kui leedu alad on läbi ajaloo väga muutuv suurus olnud ja mitte kunagi pole see rahvuslikult homogeenne olnud.
Nii ei saagi leedukatele omistada saksa rüütlite löömise au, selle leedu tagamaa oli 1000 km moskva suunas. "
päriseestlane :
" See heetzer ei tea ajaloost mitte midagi, pluffib niisama. Sisuliselt kirjaoskamata inimene. Ja kisub saksa rüütlite poole teda, oma rahvast pole temal midagi lugu. Kes on need parunite ja kirikupappide talla lakkujad, kes sellisele plusse panevad? Seesama heetzer on enda ju avalikult jumalausklikuks tunnistanud, juba see näitabki ära, et sakslaste sabarak ja harimatu inimene. "
" Miks leedukad süstemaatiliselt fritsukesi peksid, kuigi kurjusepesa-Preisimaa oli neil otse külje all? "
noh: "Mis mõttes see Preisimaa siis "kurjusepesa" oli? Preislased ja leedulased olid lähisugulased, nii nagu eestlased ja liivlased. Vahe ainult selles, et kui liivlased pöörati sakslaste poolt ära mõne aastaga, siis preislased hakkasid sakslastele vastu üle 60 aasta, enne kui Teutooni ordule alistusid. Leedu oli selleks ajaks juba sõjaliselt tugev (ja kristlik) suurvürstiriik, kui ordu päriselt nende piiride alla oli jõudnud. "
Teine tera: "Leedu oli kristlusest kaugel, kui fritsukesi Saule, Durbe, Aizkraukle lahinguis korralikult peksis.Lihtsalt igale fritsukeste põlvkonnale (ca 20 aasta tagant) tuli keretäis anda, et himu kaoks. Rüütleid värvati isegi Inglismaalt, kes leedukate käe läbi oma armetu otsa leidsid. Taktika pidi leedukatel hea olema, kui Durbes 150 plekkmeest, Aizkraukles 71 maha löödi jne "
"mitte leedukate...
Seda slaaviputru, mis tollal smolenski ja Ida-Preisimaa vahele jäi, võib ainult tinglikult leedukateks nimetada, nii poola kui leedu alad on läbi ajaloo väga muutuv suurus olnud ja mitte kunagi pole see rahvuslikult homogeenne olnud.
Nii ei saagi leedukatele omistada saksa rüütlite löömise au, selle leedu tagamaa oli 1000 km moskva suunas. "
päriseestlane :
" See heetzer ei tea ajaloost mitte midagi, pluffib niisama. Sisuliselt kirjaoskamata inimene. Ja kisub saksa rüütlite poole teda, oma rahvast pole temal midagi lugu. Kes on need parunite ja kirikupappide talla lakkujad, kes sellisele plusse panevad? Seesama heetzer on enda ju avalikult jumalausklikuks tunnistanud, juba see näitabki ära, et sakslaste sabarak ja harimatu inimene. "
30 May 2017 03:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
heh:
"Need ülikud kes ei ole mitte kellegi vasallid on kuningaliin. Need ülikud kes otsivad paremat vasallikohta on ordude liin. Ordudest tekkisid igasugu kardinalid, ususektid. Tänapäeval asendavad neid parteid. Praegu on ka nii, et osa inimesi tahab karjääri parteiliinis teha ehk orduliinis ja osa inimesi tahab juhtida ja luua firmasid. Need kes loovad firmasid on alati kuningaliinist. Ja need kaks liini on omavahel leppimatus sõjategevuses. "
"võimutses oma aadel,kes juba paari,kolme sugupõlve jooksul muutus võõrakeelseks,meelseks. Lisaks sellele tõid massiliselt maale juute sisse.Tookordsed Eesti oludes polnud võimalik ka orjandusliku korra kehtestamine koos tugeva kuningavõimuga. Infrastruktuur,ilmastik,vähene rahvastik tegi selle võimatuks ja nii mindigi kohe hõimuühiskonnast feodaalaega. Umbes nagu arengumaad jätsid mitmed ühiskonnakorraldused vahele,suguharu,hõimuliitudest otse kapitalismi,sotsialismi. "
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"Niisiis jäid Rootsi väed neli päeva hiljaks. Sellised asjad panevad muidugi alati spekuleerima teemal, mis oleks kui nad oleks õigeks ajaks jõudnud. Oletame, et eestlaste ja roostlaste ühendvägi oleks orduvägesid Tallinna all löönud, aga mis edasi? Vaevalt, et ordu oleks selle peale kohe käega löönud, kindlasti oleks uuesti vägesid koondatud ja rünnatud. Ordu edu korral poleks siis muidugi suurt vahet olnud olukorraga peale ülestõusu mahasurumist. Põnevamaks läheks siis kui Tallinn ja Harjumaa olekski Rootsi võimu alla jäänud. Suure tõenäosusega oleks sealt siis ülejäänud Eesti ja Liivimaa poole edasi oma võimu üritatud ajada. "
" " euroajaloo kohaselt pole eestlasi olnud. Ka siis püole olnud rõhumist. Ka pole olnud nn kuningate tapmist. Ise jooksid mõõga otsa lolli peaga. Loomal ju looma aru. " "
"Need ülikud kes ei ole mitte kellegi vasallid on kuningaliin. Need ülikud kes otsivad paremat vasallikohta on ordude liin. Ordudest tekkisid igasugu kardinalid, ususektid. Tänapäeval asendavad neid parteid. Praegu on ka nii, et osa inimesi tahab karjääri parteiliinis teha ehk orduliinis ja osa inimesi tahab juhtida ja luua firmasid. Need kes loovad firmasid on alati kuningaliinist. Ja need kaks liini on omavahel leppimatus sõjategevuses. "
"võimutses oma aadel,kes juba paari,kolme sugupõlve jooksul muutus võõrakeelseks,meelseks. Lisaks sellele tõid massiliselt maale juute sisse.Tookordsed Eesti oludes polnud võimalik ka orjandusliku korra kehtestamine koos tugeva kuningavõimuga. Infrastruktuur,ilmastik,vähene rahvastik tegi selle võimatuks ja nii mindigi kohe hõimuühiskonnast feodaalaega. Umbes nagu arengumaad jätsid mitmed ühiskonnakorraldused vahele,suguharu,hõimuliitudest otse kapitalismi,sotsialismi. "
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"Niisiis jäid Rootsi väed neli päeva hiljaks. Sellised asjad panevad muidugi alati spekuleerima teemal, mis oleks kui nad oleks õigeks ajaks jõudnud. Oletame, et eestlaste ja roostlaste ühendvägi oleks orduvägesid Tallinna all löönud, aga mis edasi? Vaevalt, et ordu oleks selle peale kohe käega löönud, kindlasti oleks uuesti vägesid koondatud ja rünnatud. Ordu edu korral poleks siis muidugi suurt vahet olnud olukorraga peale ülestõusu mahasurumist. Põnevamaks läheks siis kui Tallinn ja Harjumaa olekski Rootsi võimu alla jäänud. Suure tõenäosusega oleks sealt siis ülejäänud Eesti ja Liivimaa poole edasi oma võimu üritatud ajada. "
" " euroajaloo kohaselt pole eestlasi olnud. Ka siis püole olnud rõhumist. Ka pole olnud nn kuningate tapmist. Ise jooksid mõõga otsa lolli peaga. Loomal ju looma aru. " "
30 May 2017 03:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
heh: " need kes maha löödi ei olnud mingid kuningad, sest kuningas ei hakka kunagi kellegi vasalliks. "
hetzer:
"Kuningas, muinaspõhja "konung", oli sel ajal hoopis teise tähendusega siinmail. Võis olla tegu isegi sõja ajaks valitud vanema (pealikuga).
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Конунг
Kui vene keel selge, siis vaata, päris hästi ära seletatud. Kui ei, siis äkki keegi viitsib eesti wikisse tõlkida. Oleks vaja. "
"Huvitav on see et eestlased ja soomlased kasutavad selle sõna algset vormi, alg-germaani keeles oli see justnimelt "kuningaz". "king", "kung","konung", "könig" ja isegi "knjaz" on kõik selle äraväänatud tuletised. "
heh:
"Igas vana aja riigis oli nii, et oli ülikond kes ei olnud kellegi vasallid ja ülikond kes koguaeg otsis endale paremat vasallikohta. Alati viib see kodusõjani. See on sama nagu praegusel ajal on inimesi kes koguaeg otsivad head palgatööd ja on inimesi kes tahavad olla ainult ettevõtjad. Rüütlid tulid enne kui kodusõja periood alata jõudis. Need ülikud kes otsisid endale paremat vasallikohta läksid koostööle raudrüütlitega. Teised ülikud, kes põhiliselt tegelesid sõjategevusega , ei jõudnud neid teisi ülikuid maha lüüa, sest raudmehed jõudsid nendega enne liituda. Sama juhtus ka Lätis. "
Jyri :
"1943. aastal tähistasid eestlased Jüriöö ülestõusu 600-ndat aastapäeva väga erinevalt.
Eesti Direktoraadis tähistati seda prof Jüri Uluotsa eestvedamisel kui võitlust Vene vallutajate vastu. Toodi näitena ära 40 juhtumit, mil Vene poolt eestlaste alasid rünnati.
Eesti Laskurkorpus tähistas Jüriöö ülestõusu aastapäeva aga lähtuvalt sakslaste permanentsest "Drang nach Ostenist" ja sellele vastuhakust.
Tegelik Jüriöö ülestõusu eesmärk oli vabaneda sakslaste Liiwi ordu ja taanlaste võimu alt ja liituda Põhjalaga.
Ülestõusu juhid kartsid, et eestlaste väest ei pruugi esimesest šokist üle saanud sakslaste ja taanlaste ühisjõudude vastu piisata. Seetõttu saatsid nad saadikud Rootsi võimu all olevasse Soome Turu ja Viiburi foogtide juurde teadaandega, et kõik sakslased Harjumaal on ära tapetud. Lisaks andsid nad foogtidele teada, et eestlased on Tallinna ümber piiranud, kuid nad on nõus linna Rootsi kuningale üle andma, kui viimane sõjalist abi saadab. Seda kuuldes lubasid foogtid väe koguda ja sellega Eestisse purjetada.
Rootslased-soomlased jäid aga hiljaks...
hetzer:
"Kuningas, muinaspõhja "konung", oli sel ajal hoopis teise tähendusega siinmail. Võis olla tegu isegi sõja ajaks valitud vanema (pealikuga).
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Конунг
Kui vene keel selge, siis vaata, päris hästi ära seletatud. Kui ei, siis äkki keegi viitsib eesti wikisse tõlkida. Oleks vaja. "
"Huvitav on see et eestlased ja soomlased kasutavad selle sõna algset vormi, alg-germaani keeles oli see justnimelt "kuningaz". "king", "kung","konung", "könig" ja isegi "knjaz" on kõik selle äraväänatud tuletised. "
heh:
"Igas vana aja riigis oli nii, et oli ülikond kes ei olnud kellegi vasallid ja ülikond kes koguaeg otsis endale paremat vasallikohta. Alati viib see kodusõjani. See on sama nagu praegusel ajal on inimesi kes koguaeg otsivad head palgatööd ja on inimesi kes tahavad olla ainult ettevõtjad. Rüütlid tulid enne kui kodusõja periood alata jõudis. Need ülikud kes otsisid endale paremat vasallikohta läksid koostööle raudrüütlitega. Teised ülikud, kes põhiliselt tegelesid sõjategevusega , ei jõudnud neid teisi ülikuid maha lüüa, sest raudmehed jõudsid nendega enne liituda. Sama juhtus ka Lätis. "
Jyri :
"1943. aastal tähistasid eestlased Jüriöö ülestõusu 600-ndat aastapäeva väga erinevalt.
Eesti Direktoraadis tähistati seda prof Jüri Uluotsa eestvedamisel kui võitlust Vene vallutajate vastu. Toodi näitena ära 40 juhtumit, mil Vene poolt eestlaste alasid rünnati.
Eesti Laskurkorpus tähistas Jüriöö ülestõusu aastapäeva aga lähtuvalt sakslaste permanentsest "Drang nach Ostenist" ja sellele vastuhakust.
Tegelik Jüriöö ülestõusu eesmärk oli vabaneda sakslaste Liiwi ordu ja taanlaste võimu alt ja liituda Põhjalaga.
Ülestõusu juhid kartsid, et eestlaste väest ei pruugi esimesest šokist üle saanud sakslaste ja taanlaste ühisjõudude vastu piisata. Seetõttu saatsid nad saadikud Rootsi võimu all olevasse Soome Turu ja Viiburi foogtide juurde teadaandega, et kõik sakslased Harjumaal on ära tapetud. Lisaks andsid nad foogtidele teada, et eestlased on Tallinna ümber piiranud, kuid nad on nõus linna Rootsi kuningale üle andma, kui viimane sõjalist abi saadab. Seda kuuldes lubasid foogtid väe koguda ja sellega Eestisse purjetada.
Rootslased-soomlased jäid aga hiljaks...
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Конунг
30 May 2017 03:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Meeltetuletaja:
"Kas Paide või Viljandi linnusega oli seotud eestlaste "taktika" - saata viljakottides sõjamehed linnusesse, et siis öösl sakslased maha nottida. Paraku reetmise tõttu torgati kõik viljakotid mõõkadega läbi ja kalevipoegade kavalus läks jälle vett vedama. No ei olnud antud neile iseseisvust taastada...
Ei mäleta ainult, kas oli see jüriöö paiku või hiljem. "
hetzer:
"See oli toomapäeval, 21.XII. , maksuvilja tasumise päeval. Bornhöhe "Villu võitlused" räägib seda lugu. Tegelikult pidi olema tegu mingi shveitsi-saksa lendmuistendiga, aga mine sa tea. Vana orduaegset (laskemoonakeldrit?) näidatakse siiani Villu keldrina, kus vaene mees olla aastaid vangis olnud."
saksamaalt:
"räägi seda juttu praegu sakslastele, nad võtavad süü kohe omaks, üldse pärast II maailmasõda võtavad nad kõik süü omaks, ka seal kus nad süüdi ei olnud. "
Andres Pärn :
" Sellest kõigest on ka kvaliteetne dokumentaalfilm tehtud. "Malev" nimeks.. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1HZG04t8p4&list=RDj1HZG04t8p4 ) "
"Kas Paide või Viljandi linnusega oli seotud eestlaste "taktika" - saata viljakottides sõjamehed linnusesse, et siis öösl sakslased maha nottida. Paraku reetmise tõttu torgati kõik viljakotid mõõkadega läbi ja kalevipoegade kavalus läks jälle vett vedama. No ei olnud antud neile iseseisvust taastada...
Ei mäleta ainult, kas oli see jüriöö paiku või hiljem. "
hetzer:
"See oli toomapäeval, 21.XII. , maksuvilja tasumise päeval. Bornhöhe "Villu võitlused" räägib seda lugu. Tegelikult pidi olema tegu mingi shveitsi-saksa lendmuistendiga, aga mine sa tea. Vana orduaegset (laskemoonakeldrit?) näidatakse siiani Villu keldrina, kus vaene mees olla aastaid vangis olnud."
saksamaalt:
"räägi seda juttu praegu sakslastele, nad võtavad süü kohe omaks, üldse pärast II maailmasõda võtavad nad kõik süü omaks, ka seal kus nad süüdi ei olnud. "
Andres Pärn :
" Sellest kõigest on ka kvaliteetne dokumentaalfilm tehtud. "Malev" nimeks.. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1HZG04t8p4&list=RDj1HZG04t8p4 ) "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1HZG04t8p4&list=RDj1HZG04t8p4
30 May 2017 03:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aare:
" No mis siin siis ei klapi. On ju üeldud et ka Rootsi ihkas Põhja Eestis kanda kinnitada ja selleks oli tekkimas sobiv moment. Kristlikud foogtid võisid vabalt läbi rääkida ka vanakuradi endaga kui asi tõotas kasu tuua. "
hetzer:
"to - aare - vaata ega ikka ei võinud küll. Paavst oli küll kaugel, aga kirikuvannet ei tahtnud keegi omale kraesse saada. Võib ju mõningad vastuväiteid tuua - Leedu opositsiooni koostöö Riia piiskopi või Preisi kõrgmeistriga, paraku aga leedukad sedaaega ei tapnud sakslasi omas riigis ega ähvardanud maad ega ilma kokku. Pigem flirtisid nad lubadusega muuta Leedu kristlikuks maaks. Rootsi huvid Põhja-Eestis....huvid ju olid aga nende realiseerimiseks just väga palju jõudu polnud. Küll aga koostöö jõududega, kes ähvardanuks Eestimaad dekristianiseerida oleks Turu ja Viiburi foogtidele läinud pea maksma ja Rootsi riik, kes niigi Euroopa bestiate hulka kuulus , oleks lausa paariaks Roomas kuulutatud.
Ahsoo, seda veel võib siin eelmisele kommile lisada, et lugu viljakottidega juhtus väidetavalt Viljandis, ei mitte Paides ja oma kroonikas räägib sellest Bartholomeus Hoeneke. teda omakorda tunneme Renneri XVI sajandi ümberjutustuse järgi.
Nimeliselt on teada vaid üheksa vasalli, kes tapeti. Ja saksa naiste ning laste massitapmise lugu teeb mind ettevaatlikuks. Kellegile oli ja on muidugi kasulik eestlasi püstikuraditena näidata. "
lõvilõrr:
"1343 oli Rootsis noor ja tugev kuningas Magnus, kes polnud siis veel homoks pööranud ja sellepärast polnud tal ka paavstiga mingit kana kitkuda. Ega ka mitte Püha Birgitiga, kes just sel ajal Rootsis tegutses ja autoriteeti omas. Polnud Rootsi siis veel mingi bestia. Magnuse riik oli tugev, sest suutis hiljem õige mitme naabriga edukalt sõdida ja Norra kuningaks tõusta, äärepealt isegi Taani kuningaks. Kuigi siis, kunagi 1350 paiku oli ta tõesti vist juba kirikuvande all, igatahes Püha Birgit oli tema homopattudest hingepõhjani ära solvatud. Ning sellest hoolimata oli Magnus võidukas, küll mitte lõpuni Viimased aastad, peale 1360. olid jah kurvad. "
" No mis siin siis ei klapi. On ju üeldud et ka Rootsi ihkas Põhja Eestis kanda kinnitada ja selleks oli tekkimas sobiv moment. Kristlikud foogtid võisid vabalt läbi rääkida ka vanakuradi endaga kui asi tõotas kasu tuua. "
hetzer:
"to - aare - vaata ega ikka ei võinud küll. Paavst oli küll kaugel, aga kirikuvannet ei tahtnud keegi omale kraesse saada. Võib ju mõningad vastuväiteid tuua - Leedu opositsiooni koostöö Riia piiskopi või Preisi kõrgmeistriga, paraku aga leedukad sedaaega ei tapnud sakslasi omas riigis ega ähvardanud maad ega ilma kokku. Pigem flirtisid nad lubadusega muuta Leedu kristlikuks maaks. Rootsi huvid Põhja-Eestis....huvid ju olid aga nende realiseerimiseks just väga palju jõudu polnud. Küll aga koostöö jõududega, kes ähvardanuks Eestimaad dekristianiseerida oleks Turu ja Viiburi foogtidele läinud pea maksma ja Rootsi riik, kes niigi Euroopa bestiate hulka kuulus , oleks lausa paariaks Roomas kuulutatud.
Ahsoo, seda veel võib siin eelmisele kommile lisada, et lugu viljakottidega juhtus väidetavalt Viljandis, ei mitte Paides ja oma kroonikas räägib sellest Bartholomeus Hoeneke. teda omakorda tunneme Renneri XVI sajandi ümberjutustuse järgi.
Nimeliselt on teada vaid üheksa vasalli, kes tapeti. Ja saksa naiste ning laste massitapmise lugu teeb mind ettevaatlikuks. Kellegile oli ja on muidugi kasulik eestlasi püstikuraditena näidata. "
lõvilõrr:
"1343 oli Rootsis noor ja tugev kuningas Magnus, kes polnud siis veel homoks pööranud ja sellepärast polnud tal ka paavstiga mingit kana kitkuda. Ega ka mitte Püha Birgitiga, kes just sel ajal Rootsis tegutses ja autoriteeti omas. Polnud Rootsi siis veel mingi bestia. Magnuse riik oli tugev, sest suutis hiljem õige mitme naabriga edukalt sõdida ja Norra kuningaks tõusta, äärepealt isegi Taani kuningaks. Kuigi siis, kunagi 1350 paiku oli ta tõesti vist juba kirikuvande all, igatahes Püha Birgit oli tema homopattudest hingepõhjani ära solvatud. Ning sellest hoolimata oli Magnus võidukas, küll mitte lõpuni Viimased aastad, peale 1360. olid jah kurvad. "
30 May 2017 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
LIsa KOmmentaarid:
Hetzer:
"Ei olnud see sakslane hullem, kui ükspuha millised Euroopa feodaalisandad. Meenutaga, mis Inglismaal Wat Tyler ja Prantsusmaal Jeanna d´Arc´iga juhtus. Või see, kui ungari magnaadid oma ülestõusujuhi György Dosza hõõguval raudtroonil ära praadisid ja laiba tema võitluskaaslastele sisse söötsid. Ajad ja kombed olid lihtsalt karmimad. Loomulikult ei õigusta see saadikutega reetlikku käitumist. Küsimus aga - kas saadikud ise selleks ka mingit põhjust andsid - lasksid endid provotseerida. Turve kehtis vaid juhul, kui saadikud järgisid teatud reegleid. Kui nüüd mõelda 1208 aasta läbirääkimiste peale, kus nõuti ugalastelt tagasi kaupmeestelt röövitud vara, nood aga irvitasid ja ähvardasid nõudjaid. Huvitavat on selle ülestõusuloos aga nii mõndagi - kasvõi seesama rüütliks löömine või läbirääkimised Rootsi võimudega - Turu foogtiga. Kui meie naiivid arvavad, et Jüriöö tulemusena taheti taastada mingit taarausulist umbutumbu-maavalda, siis paneb ikka irvitama küll - kristlik foogt ei oleks mingit moodi hakanud mingite metsatöllidega läbirääkimisi pidama. Eestlastel pidi olema tõsiselt võetav (seda ka rahvusvaheliselt) ülemkiht, kes oli võimeline sellisel tasemel asju ajama. Segasevõitu on ka Padise kloostri lugu (kuningate "tunnistus" Paides tundub olevat ordukrooniku lausvale ja hiljem külgepoogitud tekst) Üldiselt kloostrid said ümbruskonnaga hästi läbi - eks tehkem tutvust kloostrite tähendusega Euroopa kultuuriloos. Kloostri aia kaudu tutvus maarahvas uute taimede ja köögiviljadega, kloostri juures said andekamad õppida kirjatarkust, kloostris raviti haigeid. Ei usu mina, et Padise kandi rahvas oma kloostriga nii tülis oli, et rüüstama ja tapma läksid, teades sedagi, et vaimulike meeste retsimise eest hiljem kättetasumine saab suur olema. Ühelt poolt Turu foogtiga läbirääkimised, teisalt munkade tapmine - midagi siin ei klapi. Kloostri hävitas ilmselt kas mingi kaugemalt pärinev allumatu pööblijõuk - iga mäsu sigitab ka sellseid tänapäevalgi. Või siis - nagu ka Masing on oletanud - oli see ordu oma töö - näitamaks kogu Õhtumaadele, millised tüübid siin maal elavad eestlaste näol. Saksakeelsetel ja vast mõneti tuttavatelgi kaakidel oli rahututel aegadel kindlustatud kloostrisse vast ka lihtsam sisse pääseda. Nii võis see kergesti olla ordu killerite kamp, kes kavalusega kloostrisse ronis ja seal veretööga hakkama sai.
hüllo:
"Ära Žakeriid unusta.
Eks see oli ka väikese jääaja sünnitis, kui feodaal otsustas oma elustandardi tagamiseks talurahva sisuliselt kuivaks väänata.
Meteoroloogilised olud olid eelnevate sajanditega võrreldes teised. Talurahvas äärmuseni vaesunud, kuid feodaal tahtis endiselt pillerkaari lüüa. Nii need segadused keskaja loojangul hakkasid. "
Hetzer:
"Loomulikult. Jaquerie ja Guillaume Gallet, samuti ka Tirooli maarahva märul, juba hilisemasse aega jääv Müntzeri juhitud talurarvasõda, Dalarna mäsu, Nuiasõda Soomes...Bolotnikovi märul Venemaal....mida iganes. Tõsi see, et väikene jääaeg halvendas maarahva elujärge, feodaal aga tahtis elada ikka naabrist paremini. Pärast ristisõdasid hakkas ju lausa progressioonis kasvama kõrgklassi himu igasuguse luksuskauba järele. Gröönimaal suri normannide asustus välja, Hollandi ja Veneetsia kanalitel tehti uisusõitu, Aadria meri külmas kinni, Eestis läks viimane postiregi Tallinnast Stockholmi jääd mööda veel nelipühi aegu ja kogu jamale pani krooni Suur Näljahäda. XVIII sajand pani meie rahva elulootused päris piiri peale (puuajastu!) , rokokoostiilis mõisad ja puuassidega vanker. Poleks olnud zinzendorflasi, siis ei tea, kuidas maarahva käsi üldse oleks käinud. Feodaalidel hakkas alles siis midagi koitma, kui kodanlus neile varba peale astuma hakkas. "
Hetzer:
"Ei olnud see sakslane hullem, kui ükspuha millised Euroopa feodaalisandad. Meenutaga, mis Inglismaal Wat Tyler ja Prantsusmaal Jeanna d´Arc´iga juhtus. Või see, kui ungari magnaadid oma ülestõusujuhi György Dosza hõõguval raudtroonil ära praadisid ja laiba tema võitluskaaslastele sisse söötsid. Ajad ja kombed olid lihtsalt karmimad. Loomulikult ei õigusta see saadikutega reetlikku käitumist. Küsimus aga - kas saadikud ise selleks ka mingit põhjust andsid - lasksid endid provotseerida. Turve kehtis vaid juhul, kui saadikud järgisid teatud reegleid. Kui nüüd mõelda 1208 aasta läbirääkimiste peale, kus nõuti ugalastelt tagasi kaupmeestelt röövitud vara, nood aga irvitasid ja ähvardasid nõudjaid. Huvitavat on selle ülestõusuloos aga nii mõndagi - kasvõi seesama rüütliks löömine või läbirääkimised Rootsi võimudega - Turu foogtiga. Kui meie naiivid arvavad, et Jüriöö tulemusena taheti taastada mingit taarausulist umbutumbu-maavalda, siis paneb ikka irvitama küll - kristlik foogt ei oleks mingit moodi hakanud mingite metsatöllidega läbirääkimisi pidama. Eestlastel pidi olema tõsiselt võetav (seda ka rahvusvaheliselt) ülemkiht, kes oli võimeline sellisel tasemel asju ajama. Segasevõitu on ka Padise kloostri lugu (kuningate "tunnistus" Paides tundub olevat ordukrooniku lausvale ja hiljem külgepoogitud tekst) Üldiselt kloostrid said ümbruskonnaga hästi läbi - eks tehkem tutvust kloostrite tähendusega Euroopa kultuuriloos. Kloostri aia kaudu tutvus maarahvas uute taimede ja köögiviljadega, kloostri juures said andekamad õppida kirjatarkust, kloostris raviti haigeid. Ei usu mina, et Padise kandi rahvas oma kloostriga nii tülis oli, et rüüstama ja tapma läksid, teades sedagi, et vaimulike meeste retsimise eest hiljem kättetasumine saab suur olema. Ühelt poolt Turu foogtiga läbirääkimised, teisalt munkade tapmine - midagi siin ei klapi. Kloostri hävitas ilmselt kas mingi kaugemalt pärinev allumatu pööblijõuk - iga mäsu sigitab ka sellseid tänapäevalgi. Või siis - nagu ka Masing on oletanud - oli see ordu oma töö - näitamaks kogu Õhtumaadele, millised tüübid siin maal elavad eestlaste näol. Saksakeelsetel ja vast mõneti tuttavatelgi kaakidel oli rahututel aegadel kindlustatud kloostrisse vast ka lihtsam sisse pääseda. Nii võis see kergesti olla ordu killerite kamp, kes kavalusega kloostrisse ronis ja seal veretööga hakkama sai.
hüllo:
"Ära Žakeriid unusta.
Eks see oli ka väikese jääaja sünnitis, kui feodaal otsustas oma elustandardi tagamiseks talurahva sisuliselt kuivaks väänata.
Meteoroloogilised olud olid eelnevate sajanditega võrreldes teised. Talurahvas äärmuseni vaesunud, kuid feodaal tahtis endiselt pillerkaari lüüa. Nii need segadused keskaja loojangul hakkasid. "
Hetzer:
"Loomulikult. Jaquerie ja Guillaume Gallet, samuti ka Tirooli maarahva märul, juba hilisemasse aega jääv Müntzeri juhitud talurarvasõda, Dalarna mäsu, Nuiasõda Soomes...Bolotnikovi märul Venemaal....mida iganes. Tõsi see, et väikene jääaeg halvendas maarahva elujärge, feodaal aga tahtis elada ikka naabrist paremini. Pärast ristisõdasid hakkas ju lausa progressioonis kasvama kõrgklassi himu igasuguse luksuskauba järele. Gröönimaal suri normannide asustus välja, Hollandi ja Veneetsia kanalitel tehti uisusõitu, Aadria meri külmas kinni, Eestis läks viimane postiregi Tallinnast Stockholmi jääd mööda veel nelipühi aegu ja kogu jamale pani krooni Suur Näljahäda. XVIII sajand pani meie rahva elulootused päris piiri peale (puuajastu!) , rokokoostiilis mõisad ja puuassidega vanker. Poleks olnud zinzendorflasi, siis ei tea, kuidas maarahva käsi üldse oleks käinud. Feodaalidel hakkas alles siis midagi koitma, kui kodanlus neile varba peale astuma hakkas. "
30 May 2017 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lõppsõna ja selgitusi
Kes olid eestlaste liidrid, kas mõjukad (suurmaa omanikest) talupojad/suurnikud, või eesti soost ülikud/aadlikud/vasallid? Säilinud kroonika andmetele tuginedes jääb mulje, et tegemist on pigem vasallideaadlikega. Siis on veel kirjas, et eestlaste laagris löödi rüütleid. Kuna teadaolevalt seal lahingut sel ajahetkel ei toimunud, siis saab see tähendada vaid rüütliks löömist. Rüütliks löömisega nalja ei tehtud, järelikult pidi(d) eestlaste poolel olema vastavas seisuses isik(ud) kellel oli õigus rüütliks lüüa.
Olemasolevad andmed annavad mõista, et Jüriööl alanud eestlaste vastuhakk oli suunatud aina rohkem domineerima hakkavale saksa/saksi vasallide tegevusele, mis oli maarahva seast pärit vasallid vähemusse jätnud suhteliselt lühikese ajaga.
Olen lugenud ka tõlgendusi, kus arvatakse, et Põhja-Eesti müümine Saksa ordule taanlaste poolt 1346. aastal ei ole seotud Jüriöö ülestõusuga. Päris otseselt võibolla mitte, aga kaudsemalt kindlasti, kuna Taanis olid majanduslikud raskused (täpsemalt Taani kuningal). Plaanis oli loobuda Põhja-Eestist ja saada selle müügist raha. Eestlastele võis just üheks ülestõusu motivaatoriks olla Taani raskused ja soov mitte langeda Saksa ordu Liivi haru tugevneva mõju alla.
Kroonikate järgi võis hoopis olla Jüriöö otseseks ajendiks see, et 1342. aastal või 1343. aasta alguses saatsid eestlased oma saatkonna Taani kuninga juurde, kellele kaebasid endi halva kohtlemise üle, kuid mitteeestlastest vasallid said sellest teada ja nurjasid eestlaste diplomaatilised kavatsused.
Talurahva sõdade all on tavaliselt ajalookirjanduses mõistetud just 16. sajandi alguse konflikte Lääne-Euroopas. Lisaks räägib Jüriöö ületsõusu puhul talurahvasõja vastu see, et tegelikult tol hetkel ei olnud eestlased mitte ainult talupojad, vaid eestlaste näol oli tegu sõjalise ja poliitilise jõuga.
Vägagi võimalik, et eestlastel oli plaanis luua oma riik (vähemalt Põhja-Eestis, mõnede arvates paavstile otse alluv kirikuriik), mille kujunemine katkestati 1208-1227 aastate ja hilisemate vaenulike aktsioonide tõttu, mis tundus erinevate asjaolude kokkulangemisel jälle teostatav Jüriööl alguse saanud vastuhakuga.
Nagu kroonikate põhjal võib aru saada, siis ordu kasutas sõna otseses mõttes tuntud ütlust, et sõjas ja armastuses on kõik lubatud, kasutades korduvalt pettust.
Kroonikate põhjal jääb kumama ordumeistri pidev kiirustamine - ordumeister käitus väejuhina targalt, kuna ta lõpetas viivitamatult sõdimise Pihkvamaal ja saatis saadiku eestlaste juurde võitmaks endale aega, saates samal ajal ka saadikud abi järgi jne. Võib väita, et ordumeistri kiirustamine ordule edu ka tõi.
Jüriöö ülestõusu alguse aegne suur- ja väikevasallide ehk võõraste ja maarahva omavaheline suhe on samuti vaieldav, kehtima on jäänud arvamus, et ca. 10% oli maarahvast vasalle (Põhja-Eestis). Mõned „optimistlikumad" tõlgendused on andnud isegi kuni 50%, realistlik maksimum tundub olema 30-35%. Sulev Vahtre on teinud kroonikate põhjal järelduse, et Taani võis eelistada vasallina pigem eestlast, kui sakslast, sest sakslased olid taanlaste otsesed „konkurendid" võimuvõitluses.
Kui tugineda Taani hindamisraamatule (Liber Census Daniae), siis võis usutavalt olla nii mõnigi suurvasall eesti soost, rääkimata väikevasallidest. Veel üks kaudsem viide Põhja-Eesti suhteliselt suurele ja/või mõjukale maarahvast vasallkonna olemasolule: Muistsetest maakonnanimedest jäid keskajal Mandri-Eestis kestma vaid Harju-, Järva- ja Virumaa. Ilmselt oli põhjuseks asjaolu, et neil aladel peatselt pärast vallutust tekkinud arvukas vasallkond oli oma kujunemisjärgus tugevamini seotud kohaliku haldus-territoriaalse identiteediga. (Eesti ajalugu, II köide, lk 80).
Oluline on veel mainida, et kui Rootsi (Turu ja Viiburi foogtid) võtsid eesti saadikud vastu ja eestlastele lubati abi anda, siis saab see tähendada, seda, et eestlaseid võeti kui arvestatavat poliitilist jõudu. Mis tähendab, et vähemalt harjulased püüdsid haarata peremehe ohjad otsustavalt enda kätte, olles valmis alluma uuele, kuid juba enda poolt seatud tingimustega valitud maahärraks, kellelt oleks saadud edaspidi vajadusel sõjalist abi ja kaitset. (Sulev Vahtre)
Lugejale teadmiseks: keskajal ei olnud alandav ega häbiasi olla kellegi vasall, eriti juhul, kui maahärra ise valiti.
Tõenäoliselt olid saadikud saadetud enne ülestõusu algust rootslaste juurde, mitte ülestõusu algul.
Jüriöö ülestõusu järelkaja: Rootsi kuningas annetas peale Jüriöö sündmusi Padise kloostrile ulatuslikke alasid ja õigusi Soome lõunarannal Turu lähistel, Vantaa jõesuudmes ja Porvoos (miks?). Vantaa suudmealale tekkis hiljem Helsinki linn, mis 1812 sai Soome pealinnaks. Uku Masing kirjutab oma raamatus, et paljud Jüriöö sündmustes osalenud eestlased võisid pageda Padise kloostri toel Soomemaale. Tõenäoliselt said neist kloostri alade haldajad Lõuna-Soomes. Jäljena sellest on Turu ümbruse kohalik soome keelemurre lähedane eesti keelele. (keele sarnasus on nõrk tõestus, sest teadlaste arvates oligi siin- ja seal pool Soome lahte keel kunagi väga sarnane teineteisele. N.S.)
On veel üks seos Lõuna-Soome tihedatest suhetest keskajal Eestiga: Lõuna-Soomes oli kristlikuks sümboliks neitsi Maarja, nii nagu Eestis ja Liivimaal, mujal Soomes kus oli rootslaste mõju suurem, oli kristlikuks sümboliks püha Olaf. Soome ajaloolane Matti Klinge on seostanud algselt Turu linna eestlastega.
Ristimisvee nö. mahapesemine ei tähendanud otseselt ristiusust loobumist, vaid keelduti tunnistamast võõrast võimu, sest varasem ristimine alates 13. sajandist ei olnud mitte niivõrd religioosse tähtsusega vaid pigem poliitilise tähtsusega.
Paljud ei tea sedagi, et vastuhakud toimusid ka mujal Eestis sh. ka Lõuna-Eestis ja Liivimaal, Sigulda ümbruse liivlased otsustasid samuti oma õnne proovida, kahjuks koostöö leedulastega ebaõnnestus.
Lõppu sobib omaaegse baltisaksa kirjaniku ja ühiskonnategelase Garlieb Helwig Merkeli (31. okt. 1769 - 9. mai 1850) sõnad: Merkel rõhutab, et eestlased peavad vankumatu truudusega kinni oma usust, muinasjuttudest ja pühapaikadest kus viibides tuletavad üleva tundega meelde, et nad on nende vabade meeste võsud, kes vahvasti barbaritele (sakslastele) vastu panid.
Kasutatud allikad
Sulev Vahtre „Jüriöö"
Renneri kroonika
Hoeneke kroonika
Wikipeedia artikkel
Eesti ajalugu, II köide
Uku Masing
Mikk Sarv, "Jüriöö ülestõusu tõlgendusi"
On veel üks huvitav seos Jüriöö ülestõusu võimalikust motiivist
Taani kuningakoja suhteid Saksamaa ja Rootsiga ning võimalikku eellugu meie Jüriöö sündmustele kirjeldab rootsi ajakirjanik Christer Andersson artiklis «Skåne. Kuningriik ja mässuvägi» (Nordvästra Skånes Tidningar, 5. jaanuar 1997).
1329. aastal panditi Skåne (Lõuna-Rootsi) Holsteini krahvile Gertile. Holsteinlased pigistasid oma foogtide valitsemisel skoone aadlilt, linnaelanikelt ja talupoegadelt välja viimse kui vara. Mõne aasta jooksul viis see kogu elanikkonna peaaegu täieliku paljaksröövimiseni. Ent siis lõi skoone talupoegade vägi holsteinlasi ja teisi sakslasi Lundis. Ligi 300 neist püüdsid leida varju toomkirikus, kuid skoonelased ei halastanud ja tapsid nad viimseni. Nii jäi Skåne juhita ja kaitseta.
Ainus võimalik kandidaat Skoonemaa kuningaks, kellelt võis loota vägesid kaitseks vaenulike sakslaste vastu, oli Rootsi ja Norra (tollal 17-aastane) kuningas Magnus II Eriksson. Skåne "mässajate" tegevus ja selle tulemused ei saanud olla teadmata Taanimaa teises provintsis Eestimaal. Kuulus ju Tallinn jätkuvalt Lundi peapiiskopkonda.
Kes olid eestlaste liidrid, kas mõjukad (suurmaa omanikest) talupojad/suurnikud, või eesti soost ülikud/aadlikud/vasallid? Säilinud kroonika andmetele tuginedes jääb mulje, et tegemist on pigem vasallideaadlikega. Siis on veel kirjas, et eestlaste laagris löödi rüütleid. Kuna teadaolevalt seal lahingut sel ajahetkel ei toimunud, siis saab see tähendada vaid rüütliks löömist. Rüütliks löömisega nalja ei tehtud, järelikult pidi(d) eestlaste poolel olema vastavas seisuses isik(ud) kellel oli õigus rüütliks lüüa.
Olemasolevad andmed annavad mõista, et Jüriööl alanud eestlaste vastuhakk oli suunatud aina rohkem domineerima hakkavale saksa/saksi vasallide tegevusele, mis oli maarahva seast pärit vasallid vähemusse jätnud suhteliselt lühikese ajaga.
Olen lugenud ka tõlgendusi, kus arvatakse, et Põhja-Eesti müümine Saksa ordule taanlaste poolt 1346. aastal ei ole seotud Jüriöö ülestõusuga. Päris otseselt võibolla mitte, aga kaudsemalt kindlasti, kuna Taanis olid majanduslikud raskused (täpsemalt Taani kuningal). Plaanis oli loobuda Põhja-Eestist ja saada selle müügist raha. Eestlastele võis just üheks ülestõusu motivaatoriks olla Taani raskused ja soov mitte langeda Saksa ordu Liivi haru tugevneva mõju alla.
Kroonikate järgi võis hoopis olla Jüriöö otseseks ajendiks see, et 1342. aastal või 1343. aasta alguses saatsid eestlased oma saatkonna Taani kuninga juurde, kellele kaebasid endi halva kohtlemise üle, kuid mitteeestlastest vasallid said sellest teada ja nurjasid eestlaste diplomaatilised kavatsused.
Talurahva sõdade all on tavaliselt ajalookirjanduses mõistetud just 16. sajandi alguse konflikte Lääne-Euroopas. Lisaks räägib Jüriöö ületsõusu puhul talurahvasõja vastu see, et tegelikult tol hetkel ei olnud eestlased mitte ainult talupojad, vaid eestlaste näol oli tegu sõjalise ja poliitilise jõuga.
Vägagi võimalik, et eestlastel oli plaanis luua oma riik (vähemalt Põhja-Eestis, mõnede arvates paavstile otse alluv kirikuriik), mille kujunemine katkestati 1208-1227 aastate ja hilisemate vaenulike aktsioonide tõttu, mis tundus erinevate asjaolude kokkulangemisel jälle teostatav Jüriööl alguse saanud vastuhakuga.
Nagu kroonikate põhjal võib aru saada, siis ordu kasutas sõna otseses mõttes tuntud ütlust, et sõjas ja armastuses on kõik lubatud, kasutades korduvalt pettust.
Kroonikate põhjal jääb kumama ordumeistri pidev kiirustamine - ordumeister käitus väejuhina targalt, kuna ta lõpetas viivitamatult sõdimise Pihkvamaal ja saatis saadiku eestlaste juurde võitmaks endale aega, saates samal ajal ka saadikud abi järgi jne. Võib väita, et ordumeistri kiirustamine ordule edu ka tõi.
Jüriöö ülestõusu alguse aegne suur- ja väikevasallide ehk võõraste ja maarahva omavaheline suhe on samuti vaieldav, kehtima on jäänud arvamus, et ca. 10% oli maarahvast vasalle (Põhja-Eestis). Mõned „optimistlikumad" tõlgendused on andnud isegi kuni 50%, realistlik maksimum tundub olema 30-35%. Sulev Vahtre on teinud kroonikate põhjal järelduse, et Taani võis eelistada vasallina pigem eestlast, kui sakslast, sest sakslased olid taanlaste otsesed „konkurendid" võimuvõitluses.
Kui tugineda Taani hindamisraamatule (Liber Census Daniae), siis võis usutavalt olla nii mõnigi suurvasall eesti soost, rääkimata väikevasallidest. Veel üks kaudsem viide Põhja-Eesti suhteliselt suurele ja/või mõjukale maarahvast vasallkonna olemasolule: Muistsetest maakonnanimedest jäid keskajal Mandri-Eestis kestma vaid Harju-, Järva- ja Virumaa. Ilmselt oli põhjuseks asjaolu, et neil aladel peatselt pärast vallutust tekkinud arvukas vasallkond oli oma kujunemisjärgus tugevamini seotud kohaliku haldus-territoriaalse identiteediga. (Eesti ajalugu, II köide, lk 80).
Oluline on veel mainida, et kui Rootsi (Turu ja Viiburi foogtid) võtsid eesti saadikud vastu ja eestlastele lubati abi anda, siis saab see tähendada, seda, et eestlaseid võeti kui arvestatavat poliitilist jõudu. Mis tähendab, et vähemalt harjulased püüdsid haarata peremehe ohjad otsustavalt enda kätte, olles valmis alluma uuele, kuid juba enda poolt seatud tingimustega valitud maahärraks, kellelt oleks saadud edaspidi vajadusel sõjalist abi ja kaitset. (Sulev Vahtre)
Lugejale teadmiseks: keskajal ei olnud alandav ega häbiasi olla kellegi vasall, eriti juhul, kui maahärra ise valiti.
Tõenäoliselt olid saadikud saadetud enne ülestõusu algust rootslaste juurde, mitte ülestõusu algul.
Jüriöö ülestõusu järelkaja: Rootsi kuningas annetas peale Jüriöö sündmusi Padise kloostrile ulatuslikke alasid ja õigusi Soome lõunarannal Turu lähistel, Vantaa jõesuudmes ja Porvoos (miks?). Vantaa suudmealale tekkis hiljem Helsinki linn, mis 1812 sai Soome pealinnaks. Uku Masing kirjutab oma raamatus, et paljud Jüriöö sündmustes osalenud eestlased võisid pageda Padise kloostri toel Soomemaale. Tõenäoliselt said neist kloostri alade haldajad Lõuna-Soomes. Jäljena sellest on Turu ümbruse kohalik soome keelemurre lähedane eesti keelele. (keele sarnasus on nõrk tõestus, sest teadlaste arvates oligi siin- ja seal pool Soome lahte keel kunagi väga sarnane teineteisele. N.S.)
On veel üks seos Lõuna-Soome tihedatest suhetest keskajal Eestiga: Lõuna-Soomes oli kristlikuks sümboliks neitsi Maarja, nii nagu Eestis ja Liivimaal, mujal Soomes kus oli rootslaste mõju suurem, oli kristlikuks sümboliks püha Olaf. Soome ajaloolane Matti Klinge on seostanud algselt Turu linna eestlastega.
Ristimisvee nö. mahapesemine ei tähendanud otseselt ristiusust loobumist, vaid keelduti tunnistamast võõrast võimu, sest varasem ristimine alates 13. sajandist ei olnud mitte niivõrd religioosse tähtsusega vaid pigem poliitilise tähtsusega.
Paljud ei tea sedagi, et vastuhakud toimusid ka mujal Eestis sh. ka Lõuna-Eestis ja Liivimaal, Sigulda ümbruse liivlased otsustasid samuti oma õnne proovida, kahjuks koostöö leedulastega ebaõnnestus.
Lõppu sobib omaaegse baltisaksa kirjaniku ja ühiskonnategelase Garlieb Helwig Merkeli (31. okt. 1769 - 9. mai 1850) sõnad: Merkel rõhutab, et eestlased peavad vankumatu truudusega kinni oma usust, muinasjuttudest ja pühapaikadest kus viibides tuletavad üleva tundega meelde, et nad on nende vabade meeste võsud, kes vahvasti barbaritele (sakslastele) vastu panid.
Kasutatud allikad
Sulev Vahtre „Jüriöö"
Renneri kroonika
Hoeneke kroonika
Wikipeedia artikkel
Eesti ajalugu, II köide
Uku Masing
Mikk Sarv, "Jüriöö ülestõusu tõlgendusi"
On veel üks huvitav seos Jüriöö ülestõusu võimalikust motiivist
Taani kuningakoja suhteid Saksamaa ja Rootsiga ning võimalikku eellugu meie Jüriöö sündmustele kirjeldab rootsi ajakirjanik Christer Andersson artiklis «Skåne. Kuningriik ja mässuvägi» (Nordvästra Skånes Tidningar, 5. jaanuar 1997).
1329. aastal panditi Skåne (Lõuna-Rootsi) Holsteini krahvile Gertile. Holsteinlased pigistasid oma foogtide valitsemisel skoone aadlilt, linnaelanikelt ja talupoegadelt välja viimse kui vara. Mõne aasta jooksul viis see kogu elanikkonna peaaegu täieliku paljaksröövimiseni. Ent siis lõi skoone talupoegade vägi holsteinlasi ja teisi sakslasi Lundis. Ligi 300 neist püüdsid leida varju toomkirikus, kuid skoonelased ei halastanud ja tapsid nad viimseni. Nii jäi Skåne juhita ja kaitseta.
Ainus võimalik kandidaat Skoonemaa kuningaks, kellelt võis loota vägesid kaitseks vaenulike sakslaste vastu, oli Rootsi ja Norra (tollal 17-aastane) kuningas Magnus II Eriksson. Skåne "mässajate" tegevus ja selle tulemused ei saanud olla teadmata Taanimaa teises provintsis Eestimaal. Kuulus ju Tallinn jätkuvalt Lundi peapiiskopkonda.
30 May 2017 02:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
16. mail 1343
Ülestõusu maha surumine Mandri-Eestis: 16. mail suundus orduvägi meister Burchard von Dreilebeni juhtimisel ümberpiiratud Haapsalule appi. Eestlaste vägi taandus rüütlite raskeratsaväe eest taktikalist eelist otsides ilma lahinguta rappa. Vahepeal kutsusid ülestõusnud Liivi ordu jõudude killustamiseks Pihkva vürstiriiki ordu ja Tartu piiskopkonna maadele tungima. Kaks Pihkvasse läkitatud saadikut rääkisid pihkvalastele, kuidas kõik sakslased koos meistri ja orduvendadega Harjus maha olla löödud ning õhutasid pihkvalasi soodsat juhust kasutama, et Tartu piiskopkonda rüüstama minna. Seda pihkvalased ka 5000 mehega tegid, tungides röövides ja põletades ning inimesi ja kariloomi tappes kuni Otepääni. Kuna ülestõus Põhja-Eestis oli juba peaaegu maha surutud, suutis ordu piisavalt vägesid koguda, et hulljulge rünnakuga tuhatkond rüüstajat tapetuna lahinguväljale jättes ülejäänud Pihkvamaale tagasi ajada.
18. mail saabus Viiburi foogt Dan Niclisson suure väega Tallinna alla ja päev hiljem ka Turu foogt. Seal said nad teada, et eestlaste malev on lüüa saanud ning Tallinna nö. eliit on linna kaitse Liivi ordule usaldanud. Läbirääkimistel Goswin von Herikega nõudsid nad linna Taani kuninga poolt Rootsi kuningale tehtud kahjude eest kompensatsiooniks saada, kuid neile öeldi ära. Mõlemad foogtid lahkusid peatselt reidilt, kuid enne seda riisusid nad Tallinna lähistelt linna kariloomad.
Kuigi eestlaste peavägi oli Sõjamäe lahingus lüüa saanud, olid maapiirkonnad ja kohaliku tähtsusega linnused endiselt ülestõusnute kätes. Nendest jagu saamiseks palus von Dreileben Saksa ordu kõrgmeistrilt vahepeal juba ka Saaremaale levinud ülestõusu mahasurumiseks lisavägesid. Preisimaalt saabuski septembris Riiga kaks komtuuri 700 hästirelvastatud ratsamehega, kellest üks osa Viljandit ja teine Paidet kindlustama saadeti, samas kui suurem osa ühines Liivi ordu peaväega, mis pärast mardipäeva Harjumaad laastama läks. Ordumeister andis preisimaalastega tugevdatud sõjaväele korralduse Harjumaal kõik vanad koos noortega maha tappa, mis ka täide olevat saadetud. Viimased talve hakul orduväe kätte langenud linnused olid Varbola Jaanilinn ja Lohu Jaanilinn. Pärast seda kirjeldati Harjumaad kui "tühja ja paljast maad".
Põhja-Eesti müümine Liivi ordule: Pärast ülestõusu läksid Liivi ordu kätte kõik tähtsamad Taani linnused Eestimaa hertsogkonnas - Tallinn ja Rakvere 1343. ning Narva 1345. aastal. 1346. aastal müüsid Taani kuningas Valdemar IV ja Brandenburgi markkrahv Ludwig Eestimaa hertsogkonna Liivi ordule, kes maksis selle eest Taani kuningale 19 000 hõbemarka (4 tonni hõbedat) ja markkrahv Ludwigile 6000 hõbemarka.
Valjala kiriku uks. Foto: Neil Savi Rae Sõnumid
24. juulil 1343
Ülestõus saartel: 24. juulil 1343, päev enne jaagupipäeva, kordusid jüriöö sündmused saartel, kui korraga tõusid võõrvõimu vastu üles osaliselt Saare-Lääne piiskopkonnale ja osaliselt Liivi ordule kuuluvad Saaremaa ja Muhumaa.
"Liivimaa noorema riimkroonika" sõnul "lõid saarlased maha kõik sakslased, noored ja vanad, nii nagu see Harjus oli sündinud, uputasid preestrid merre ja läksid samal päeval Pöide linnuse alla, mille ees nad olid kaheksa päeva, sest nad teadsid hästi, et linnust piirajaist vabastada ei võidud." Pöide foogt Arnold sai aru, et linnust ei ole võimalik kaitsta ning loovutas ümberpiiratud kantsi neile lubatud vaba läbipääsu eest ülestõusnutele. Ometi ei pidanud ülestõusnud sõna ning lõid maha kõik linnusest välja tulnud ordurüütlid ja teised sinna pakku läinud sakslased. Sarnaselt harju- ja virumaalastele valisid ka saarlased endale Vesse nimelise kuninga. Huvitava kokkusattumusena valitses Tartus samal ajal Wescelinuse- nimeline piiskop. Saaremaa ja Muhumaa jäid iseseisvaks talveni. 1344. aasta veebruaris tungis Preisimaalt saabunud abivägedega täiendatud orduvägi meister Burchard von Dreilebeni juhtimisel üle kinnikülmanud mere saartele ning liikus röövides ja põletades Purtsa maalinna alla, kuhu oli varjunud suur hulk rahvast. Lahing Purtsa pärast kestis hommikust ööni, kuni orduväel õnnestus kaitserinnatistest läbi murda. Linnas olevat tapetud 2000 inimest, sakslasi langes 500. Sakslaste kätte langes vangi kuningas Vesse, keda kõigepealt piinati ja siis välja väänatud jalgadega küünarnukke pidi piiramismasina külge üles poodi.
Esialgsele edule vaatamata ei õnnestunud ordul ülestõusu Saaremaal maha suruda. Märtsis enne merejää sulamist oli orduvägi sunnitud tagasi mandrile pöörduma, sest pikema viivituse korral oleksid lumesulamisaegsed teed Preisimaale naasvatele abivägedele läbipääsmatuks muutunud.1345. aasta talvel naasis meister orduväega Saaremaale ja rüüstas Karja ümbruses kaheksa päeva jooksul maa paljaks. Lõpuks palusid saarlased rahu. Läbirääkimiste tulemusena soostusid saarlased otsekohe pantvange andma ning lubasid kõik oma relvad Lihula ordulinnusesse viia. Lisaks lubasid nad maha lõhkuda oma Maansaare linnuse, mille asemele ordu hiljem Maasilinna ordulinnuse püstitas. Linnuse ehitus määrati karistuseks saarlastele, millest tuleneb ka selle saksakeelne nimi Soneburg ('trahvi- ehk karistuslinnus'). Kaks aastat iseseisvad olnud saarlaste tingimusliku alistumisega 1345. aastal sai läbi kokkuvõtlikult Jüriöö ülestõusuna ajalukku läinud maarahva viimane suurejooneline katse pealesunnitud ristiusku maha raputada ja muistset iseseisvust tagasi saada. Ülestõus halvendas eesti rahva reaalset olukorda ja selle tulemusel jäi maa poliitilisse juhtimisse vähem eestlasi, kui enne ülestõusu, ning aja jooksul saksastusid nemadki.
Ülestõusu maha surumine Mandri-Eestis: 16. mail suundus orduvägi meister Burchard von Dreilebeni juhtimisel ümberpiiratud Haapsalule appi. Eestlaste vägi taandus rüütlite raskeratsaväe eest taktikalist eelist otsides ilma lahinguta rappa. Vahepeal kutsusid ülestõusnud Liivi ordu jõudude killustamiseks Pihkva vürstiriiki ordu ja Tartu piiskopkonna maadele tungima. Kaks Pihkvasse läkitatud saadikut rääkisid pihkvalastele, kuidas kõik sakslased koos meistri ja orduvendadega Harjus maha olla löödud ning õhutasid pihkvalasi soodsat juhust kasutama, et Tartu piiskopkonda rüüstama minna. Seda pihkvalased ka 5000 mehega tegid, tungides röövides ja põletades ning inimesi ja kariloomi tappes kuni Otepääni. Kuna ülestõus Põhja-Eestis oli juba peaaegu maha surutud, suutis ordu piisavalt vägesid koguda, et hulljulge rünnakuga tuhatkond rüüstajat tapetuna lahinguväljale jättes ülejäänud Pihkvamaale tagasi ajada.
18. mail saabus Viiburi foogt Dan Niclisson suure väega Tallinna alla ja päev hiljem ka Turu foogt. Seal said nad teada, et eestlaste malev on lüüa saanud ning Tallinna nö. eliit on linna kaitse Liivi ordule usaldanud. Läbirääkimistel Goswin von Herikega nõudsid nad linna Taani kuninga poolt Rootsi kuningale tehtud kahjude eest kompensatsiooniks saada, kuid neile öeldi ära. Mõlemad foogtid lahkusid peatselt reidilt, kuid enne seda riisusid nad Tallinna lähistelt linna kariloomad.
Kuigi eestlaste peavägi oli Sõjamäe lahingus lüüa saanud, olid maapiirkonnad ja kohaliku tähtsusega linnused endiselt ülestõusnute kätes. Nendest jagu saamiseks palus von Dreileben Saksa ordu kõrgmeistrilt vahepeal juba ka Saaremaale levinud ülestõusu mahasurumiseks lisavägesid. Preisimaalt saabuski septembris Riiga kaks komtuuri 700 hästirelvastatud ratsamehega, kellest üks osa Viljandit ja teine Paidet kindlustama saadeti, samas kui suurem osa ühines Liivi ordu peaväega, mis pärast mardipäeva Harjumaad laastama läks. Ordumeister andis preisimaalastega tugevdatud sõjaväele korralduse Harjumaal kõik vanad koos noortega maha tappa, mis ka täide olevat saadetud. Viimased talve hakul orduväe kätte langenud linnused olid Varbola Jaanilinn ja Lohu Jaanilinn. Pärast seda kirjeldati Harjumaad kui "tühja ja paljast maad".
Põhja-Eesti müümine Liivi ordule: Pärast ülestõusu läksid Liivi ordu kätte kõik tähtsamad Taani linnused Eestimaa hertsogkonnas - Tallinn ja Rakvere 1343. ning Narva 1345. aastal. 1346. aastal müüsid Taani kuningas Valdemar IV ja Brandenburgi markkrahv Ludwig Eestimaa hertsogkonna Liivi ordule, kes maksis selle eest Taani kuningale 19 000 hõbemarka (4 tonni hõbedat) ja markkrahv Ludwigile 6000 hõbemarka.
Valjala kiriku uks. Foto: Neil Savi Rae Sõnumid
24. juulil 1343
Ülestõus saartel: 24. juulil 1343, päev enne jaagupipäeva, kordusid jüriöö sündmused saartel, kui korraga tõusid võõrvõimu vastu üles osaliselt Saare-Lääne piiskopkonnale ja osaliselt Liivi ordule kuuluvad Saaremaa ja Muhumaa.
"Liivimaa noorema riimkroonika" sõnul "lõid saarlased maha kõik sakslased, noored ja vanad, nii nagu see Harjus oli sündinud, uputasid preestrid merre ja läksid samal päeval Pöide linnuse alla, mille ees nad olid kaheksa päeva, sest nad teadsid hästi, et linnust piirajaist vabastada ei võidud." Pöide foogt Arnold sai aru, et linnust ei ole võimalik kaitsta ning loovutas ümberpiiratud kantsi neile lubatud vaba läbipääsu eest ülestõusnutele. Ometi ei pidanud ülestõusnud sõna ning lõid maha kõik linnusest välja tulnud ordurüütlid ja teised sinna pakku läinud sakslased. Sarnaselt harju- ja virumaalastele valisid ka saarlased endale Vesse nimelise kuninga. Huvitava kokkusattumusena valitses Tartus samal ajal Wescelinuse- nimeline piiskop. Saaremaa ja Muhumaa jäid iseseisvaks talveni. 1344. aasta veebruaris tungis Preisimaalt saabunud abivägedega täiendatud orduvägi meister Burchard von Dreilebeni juhtimisel üle kinnikülmanud mere saartele ning liikus röövides ja põletades Purtsa maalinna alla, kuhu oli varjunud suur hulk rahvast. Lahing Purtsa pärast kestis hommikust ööni, kuni orduväel õnnestus kaitserinnatistest läbi murda. Linnas olevat tapetud 2000 inimest, sakslasi langes 500. Sakslaste kätte langes vangi kuningas Vesse, keda kõigepealt piinati ja siis välja väänatud jalgadega küünarnukke pidi piiramismasina külge üles poodi.
Esialgsele edule vaatamata ei õnnestunud ordul ülestõusu Saaremaal maha suruda. Märtsis enne merejää sulamist oli orduvägi sunnitud tagasi mandrile pöörduma, sest pikema viivituse korral oleksid lumesulamisaegsed teed Preisimaale naasvatele abivägedele läbipääsmatuks muutunud.1345. aasta talvel naasis meister orduväega Saaremaale ja rüüstas Karja ümbruses kaheksa päeva jooksul maa paljaks. Lõpuks palusid saarlased rahu. Läbirääkimiste tulemusena soostusid saarlased otsekohe pantvange andma ning lubasid kõik oma relvad Lihula ordulinnusesse viia. Lisaks lubasid nad maha lõhkuda oma Maansaare linnuse, mille asemele ordu hiljem Maasilinna ordulinnuse püstitas. Linnuse ehitus määrati karistuseks saarlastele, millest tuleneb ka selle saksakeelne nimi Soneburg ('trahvi- ehk karistuslinnus'). Kaks aastat iseseisvad olnud saarlaste tingimusliku alistumisega 1345. aastal sai läbi kokkuvõtlikult Jüriöö ülestõusuna ajalukku läinud maarahva viimane suurejooneline katse pealesunnitud ristiusku maha raputada ja muistset iseseisvust tagasi saada. Ülestõus halvendas eesti rahva reaalset olukorda ja selle tulemusel jäi maa poliitilisse juhtimisse vähem eestlasi, kui enne ülestõusu, ning aja jooksul saksastusid nemadki.
30 May 2017 02:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11. mail 1343
Kämbla lahingud: Esimene viivituslahing toimus pühapäeval 11. mail 1343 Kämbla külas, kus 200 eestlast laagris olevatele ordumeestele kallale tungisid. Neist olevat sada maha löödud ja teine sada põgenema pääsenud. Varsti pärast seda toimus Kämblas teine kokkupõrge sajamehelise eestlaste väesalgaga, kellest 60 olevat lahingus tapetud. Ordu kaotustest kroonikad vaikivad.
Kanavere lahing: Vaevalt oli Kämbla lahing lõppenud, kui ordu peaväe laagrisse saabus käskjalg, kes andis teada, et suur hulk eestlasi 3,5 km kaugusel Kanavere läheduses ohustab Põltsamaa foogti juhitud väesalka, mispeale orduvennad hobuste seljas tuhatnelja foogtile appi tõttasid. Eestlased taandusid raskerelvastuses ratsarüütlite eest taktikalise eelise võitmiseks Kanavere rappa. Seepeale tulid rüütlid hobuste seljast maha, et eestlasi jalgsi rünnata. Esimesel Kanavere rabas toimunud kokkupõrkel kindlat võitjat ei olnud, kuigi elu kaotasid mitmed nimekad orduvennad. Uue rünnaku järel toimunud teine lahing lõppes sakslastele võidukalt ning kokku olevat Kanavere rabas elu kaotanud 1600 eestlast.
Kämbla, Kanavere lahingute ja teiste kroonikates kirja pandud andmete põhjal on näha, et eestlased pidasid tänapäevamõistes viivituslahinguid - (suhteliselt) väikesed salgad ründavad vaenlase (põhi)vägesid aeglustamaks nende liikumist endi põhivägede suunas, et endi põhiväed jõuaksid paremini ennast ette valmistada, veelgi tõenäolisem, et liitlaste Turu ja Viiburi foogti abiväed oleks enne orduvägede peavägede saabumist eestlastega samal ajal kohal ja valmis ordule otsustavat lööki andma.
14. mail 1343
Sõjamäe lahing: 14. mail 1343 jõudis orduvägi Tallinna lähistele ja jäi linnast penikoorma (umbes 10 km) kaugusel paigale. Ordumeister kartis, et rüütlite raskeratsaväge nähes võib eestlaste malev jällegi taktikaliselt lähedal asuvasse sohu taanduda. Ta saatis Võnnu ja Turaida foogtid kahe lipkonnaga aja võitmiseks eestlaste malevaga rahu pakkumise ettekäändel petteläbirääkimisi pidama. Foogtid jõudsidki eestlastega kokkuleppele ning ordu peavägi liikus Lasnamäele ülestõusnute laagri alla. Seejärel saatis ordumeister uue saadiku eestlaste juurde, kes andis teada, et ordu on leppest lahti öelnud ning eestlased valmistugu lahinguks. Ülestõusnute malev hakkas kohe varasema plaani järgi soo poole taganema, kuid selleks ajaks oli orduvägi tee sohu tõkestanud. Järgnevas Sõjamäe lahingus kaotas kroonikate andmetel elu 3000 eestlast. Ülestõusnute otsusekindlusest annab aimu krooniku kirjeldus langenut teeselnud eestlasest, kes tapluse järel ühele lahinguvälja uudistama tulnud Tallinna linnakodanikule veel poolsurnunagi kallale tunginud. Liivi ordu ja eestlaste maleva vahel toimunud lahingu paika hakati rahvasuus nimetama Sõjamäeks, mis on praegu koht Tallinna Lasnamäe linnaosas.
Taani valdused Liivi ordu kaitse alla: Sõjamäe lahingu järel toodi ordumeister Burchard von Dreilebeni ette üks vangistatud sakslane, kes oli eestlaste poole üle läinud ning kelle ordumeister hiljem kannakõõluseid pidi lasi üles puua. Tema käest sai ordumeister esmakordselt kuulda, et rootslased, kes hiljuti Skandinaavias mitmed Taani valdused enestele olid vallutanud, viie päeva pärast suure väega eestlastele appi tulevad, sest Rootsi olevat juba ammu Tallinna oma kätte ihaldanud (Nii Rootsi kui Taani kuningad olid huvitatud kontrolli säilitamisest ja suurendamisest tulutoovate kaubateede üle ja Hansa mõjuvõimu vähendamisest). Seda kuuldes palusid Tallinnast tulnud Taani kuninga 15 nõunikku ja vasallkond, et Liivimaa ordumeister isiklikult Tallinna ja Rakvere ajutiselt eestlaste ja rootslaste eest oma kaitse alla võtaks ning kohustusid tasuma kõik sellega seoses tekkida võivad kulud. Meister soostus pärast tasu lubamist seda ka teha ja määras Viljandi komtuuri Goswin von Herike nende alade asevalitsejaks.
Kämbla lahingud: Esimene viivituslahing toimus pühapäeval 11. mail 1343 Kämbla külas, kus 200 eestlast laagris olevatele ordumeestele kallale tungisid. Neist olevat sada maha löödud ja teine sada põgenema pääsenud. Varsti pärast seda toimus Kämblas teine kokkupõrge sajamehelise eestlaste väesalgaga, kellest 60 olevat lahingus tapetud. Ordu kaotustest kroonikad vaikivad.
Kanavere lahing: Vaevalt oli Kämbla lahing lõppenud, kui ordu peaväe laagrisse saabus käskjalg, kes andis teada, et suur hulk eestlasi 3,5 km kaugusel Kanavere läheduses ohustab Põltsamaa foogti juhitud väesalka, mispeale orduvennad hobuste seljas tuhatnelja foogtile appi tõttasid. Eestlased taandusid raskerelvastuses ratsarüütlite eest taktikalise eelise võitmiseks Kanavere rappa. Seepeale tulid rüütlid hobuste seljast maha, et eestlasi jalgsi rünnata. Esimesel Kanavere rabas toimunud kokkupõrkel kindlat võitjat ei olnud, kuigi elu kaotasid mitmed nimekad orduvennad. Uue rünnaku järel toimunud teine lahing lõppes sakslastele võidukalt ning kokku olevat Kanavere rabas elu kaotanud 1600 eestlast.
Kämbla, Kanavere lahingute ja teiste kroonikates kirja pandud andmete põhjal on näha, et eestlased pidasid tänapäevamõistes viivituslahinguid - (suhteliselt) väikesed salgad ründavad vaenlase (põhi)vägesid aeglustamaks nende liikumist endi põhivägede suunas, et endi põhiväed jõuaksid paremini ennast ette valmistada, veelgi tõenäolisem, et liitlaste Turu ja Viiburi foogti abiväed oleks enne orduvägede peavägede saabumist eestlastega samal ajal kohal ja valmis ordule otsustavat lööki andma.
14. mail 1343
Sõjamäe lahing: 14. mail 1343 jõudis orduvägi Tallinna lähistele ja jäi linnast penikoorma (umbes 10 km) kaugusel paigale. Ordumeister kartis, et rüütlite raskeratsaväge nähes võib eestlaste malev jällegi taktikaliselt lähedal asuvasse sohu taanduda. Ta saatis Võnnu ja Turaida foogtid kahe lipkonnaga aja võitmiseks eestlaste malevaga rahu pakkumise ettekäändel petteläbirääkimisi pidama. Foogtid jõudsidki eestlastega kokkuleppele ning ordu peavägi liikus Lasnamäele ülestõusnute laagri alla. Seejärel saatis ordumeister uue saadiku eestlaste juurde, kes andis teada, et ordu on leppest lahti öelnud ning eestlased valmistugu lahinguks. Ülestõusnute malev hakkas kohe varasema plaani järgi soo poole taganema, kuid selleks ajaks oli orduvägi tee sohu tõkestanud. Järgnevas Sõjamäe lahingus kaotas kroonikate andmetel elu 3000 eestlast. Ülestõusnute otsusekindlusest annab aimu krooniku kirjeldus langenut teeselnud eestlasest, kes tapluse järel ühele lahinguvälja uudistama tulnud Tallinna linnakodanikule veel poolsurnunagi kallale tunginud. Liivi ordu ja eestlaste maleva vahel toimunud lahingu paika hakati rahvasuus nimetama Sõjamäeks, mis on praegu koht Tallinna Lasnamäe linnaosas.
Taani valdused Liivi ordu kaitse alla: Sõjamäe lahingu järel toodi ordumeister Burchard von Dreilebeni ette üks vangistatud sakslane, kes oli eestlaste poole üle läinud ning kelle ordumeister hiljem kannakõõluseid pidi lasi üles puua. Tema käest sai ordumeister esmakordselt kuulda, et rootslased, kes hiljuti Skandinaavias mitmed Taani valdused enestele olid vallutanud, viie päeva pärast suure väega eestlastele appi tulevad, sest Rootsi olevat juba ammu Tallinna oma kätte ihaldanud (Nii Rootsi kui Taani kuningad olid huvitatud kontrolli säilitamisest ja suurendamisest tulutoovate kaubateede üle ja Hansa mõjuvõimu vähendamisest). Seda kuuldes palusid Tallinnast tulnud Taani kuninga 15 nõunikku ja vasallkond, et Liivimaa ordumeister isiklikult Tallinna ja Rakvere ajutiselt eestlaste ja rootslaste eest oma kaitse alla võtaks ning kohustusid tasuma kõik sellega seoses tekkida võivad kulud. Meister soostus pärast tasu lubamist seda ka teha ja määras Viljandi komtuuri Goswin von Herike nende alade asevalitsejaks.
30 May 2017 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eestlased saatsid saadikutena Paidesse oma neli kuningat, keda saatsid kolm sõjasulast. Ülestõusnud lubasid ka Tallinna piiskopil läbi oma territooriumi Paidesse läbirääkimistele minna. Teada on, et Tallinna piiskop saabus koos eestlastest saadikutega. Küsimärgiga on, miks eestlased nõustusid minema Paidesse (lõvikoopasse), miks ei valitud mõnda neutraalsemat läbirääkimiste kohta?
Kuidas mõrvati 1343. aasta 23. aprillil alguse saanud ülestõusus neli eesti kuningat, kuidas eestlased võitlesid erinevates lahingutes ja milliseid taktikaid eestlased ja ordu kasutasid. Eelmises numbris kirjutasin taustainfost, kuidas maarahva ülestõus alguse sai.
Nelja kuninga mõrvamine
Taani valdustes ja Saare-Lääne piiskopkonnas puhkenud ülestõusust jõudsid kiiresti Liivi orduni, kui tapmistest põgenema pääsenud hirmunud sakslased ükshaaval ordu alale hakkasid saabuma.
Tartu piiskopkonna piiridel Pihkva vürstiriigiga sõdiv ordumeister saatis ülestõusnute juurde otsekohe ühe orduvenna, kes keelt tundis ja keda nad (eestlased) tundsid (võimalik, et mõne eestlasest orduvenna) ning kutsus ordusaadiku suu läbi eestlasi Paidesse saadikuid läkitama, kes siis maarahva "äralangemise" põhjuseid selgitaksid. Lisaks lubas ta heastada kõik süü, millega sakslased ülestõusuks põhjust on võinud anda.
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Lisaks ordumeister Burchard von Dreilebenile saabusid Liivi ordu poolt Paidesse veel Viljandi ja Riia komtuurid, Järvamaa foogt ja palju teisi kõrgeid orduvendi. Suur rüütlite arv, kes Paidesse saabusid, vihjab sellele, et ordu kasutas läbirääkimisi vaid ajavõitmiseks ning peaeesmärgiks oli kuningate neutraliseerimine, et siis juhtideta jäänud ülestõusnute väesalkadele ükshaaval kallale tungida. Sellele viitab ka vahetult enne läbirääkimisi, veel enne Liivi ordu ametlikku sõjakuulutust, Kursi komtuuri Johan de Witte algatatud kallaletung Ravila külas laagris olevale 500 mehelisele eesti ratsasalgale, kellest vaid 200 olevat põgenema pääsenud. 4. mail 1343 algasid Paides läbirääkimised. Saksa poole eestkõnelejaks oli Liivi ordu maameister isiklikult.
Eestlaste kuningad teatasid, et oleksid nõus Liivi ordu vasallideks hakkama, kuid seda ainult tingimusel, et nende üle ühtegi otsest isandat ei ole. Ordumeister päris kuningatelt aru selle kohta, miks eestlased nii palju sakslasi, teiste hulgas ka Padise mungad, ära olid tapnud. Selle peale vastasid kuningad, et neid (s.t. maarahvast) "olevat nii kaua piinatud ja vaevatud, et nad seda kauem enam sallida ega välja kannatada ei suutnud." Mis aga puutub Padise munkadesse, siis olnud neilgi "küllalt süüd, ja oleks veel üks küünrapikkune sakslane, peaks seegi surema".
Ordumeister Burchard von Dreileben kuulutas sellise "mõrtsukateo" karistuse vääriliseks ning teatas, et kuigi ta kuningaid ei puuduta ja nad vabaks jätab, ei luba ta neil ometi enne Paide ordulinnusest lahkuda, kuni ta eluga eestlastele kätte maksmast tagasi on tulnud. Kuningatest saadikud, kellele keskaegse kombe järgi oli antud turve (saadikupuutumatus), mis pidi neile kindlustama nende isikupuutumatuse, said sellise jämeda komberikkumise üle vihaseks ja nõudsid, et neid maleva juurde tagasi lastaks ja lubataks neil oma õnne ordurüütlite vastu lahinguväljal proovida, kuid tulutult.
Ordumeister tegi Järva foogt Luter Steckele ülesandeks eestlastest "külaliste" eest hoolitseda. "Liivimaa noorema riimkroonika" ja Marburgi Wigandi vastuoluliste kirjelduste järgi olevat väidetavalt eestlased Paide linnuse lahtises käigus kokkupõrke provotseerinud, mispeale sakslased neljale eestlaste kuningale ja nende kolmele sõjasulasele hulgakesi kallale tungisid ja nad kõik surnuks raiusid. Hilisemate tõlgenduste kohaselt peegeldavad need vastuolulised kirjeldused saksameelsete kroonikute kohmakat katset diplomaatilise etiketi vastu rängalt eksinud Liivi ordut õigustades ordu mainet kaitsta.
Hilisemad baltisaksa ajaloolasedki on pidanud tunnistama seda õigusvastaseks teoks ja mustaks plekiks minevikus.
Ülestõusu edasine kulg mandri-Eestis: Pärast eestlaste kuningate mõrvamist asus suur orduvägi Burchard von Dreilebeni juhtimisel Paidest Tallinna poole teele. Ometi ei liigutud otse Tallinna alla, vaid jäädi kõigepealt Oru mõisa (Kose khk) Kämbla külla üheks ööks ja päevaks laagrisse, et väesalgad seal koguneda saaksid. Turu ja Viiburi foogtide abivägesid ootavad eestlased kasutasid viivitust väesalkade saatmiseks orduga viivituslahingute pidamiseks.
Kuidas mõrvati 1343. aasta 23. aprillil alguse saanud ülestõusus neli eesti kuningat, kuidas eestlased võitlesid erinevates lahingutes ja milliseid taktikaid eestlased ja ordu kasutasid. Eelmises numbris kirjutasin taustainfost, kuidas maarahva ülestõus alguse sai.
Nelja kuninga mõrvamine
Taani valdustes ja Saare-Lääne piiskopkonnas puhkenud ülestõusust jõudsid kiiresti Liivi orduni, kui tapmistest põgenema pääsenud hirmunud sakslased ükshaaval ordu alale hakkasid saabuma.
Tartu piiskopkonna piiridel Pihkva vürstiriigiga sõdiv ordumeister saatis ülestõusnute juurde otsekohe ühe orduvenna, kes keelt tundis ja keda nad (eestlased) tundsid (võimalik, et mõne eestlasest orduvenna) ning kutsus ordusaadiku suu läbi eestlasi Paidesse saadikuid läkitama, kes siis maarahva "äralangemise" põhjuseid selgitaksid. Lisaks lubas ta heastada kõik süü, millega sakslased ülestõusuks põhjust on võinud anda.
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http://eestielu.delfi.ee/harjumaa/kodulugu/jurioo-ulestousust-670-aastat-hiljem-kuidas-morvati-eesti-kuningad-ja-milliseid-taktikaid-eestlased-kasutasid?id=66105586&com=1®=0&no=0&s=1
Lisaks ordumeister Burchard von Dreilebenile saabusid Liivi ordu poolt Paidesse veel Viljandi ja Riia komtuurid, Järvamaa foogt ja palju teisi kõrgeid orduvendi. Suur rüütlite arv, kes Paidesse saabusid, vihjab sellele, et ordu kasutas läbirääkimisi vaid ajavõitmiseks ning peaeesmärgiks oli kuningate neutraliseerimine, et siis juhtideta jäänud ülestõusnute väesalkadele ükshaaval kallale tungida. Sellele viitab ka vahetult enne läbirääkimisi, veel enne Liivi ordu ametlikku sõjakuulutust, Kursi komtuuri Johan de Witte algatatud kallaletung Ravila külas laagris olevale 500 mehelisele eesti ratsasalgale, kellest vaid 200 olevat põgenema pääsenud. 4. mail 1343 algasid Paides läbirääkimised. Saksa poole eestkõnelejaks oli Liivi ordu maameister isiklikult.
Eestlaste kuningad teatasid, et oleksid nõus Liivi ordu vasallideks hakkama, kuid seda ainult tingimusel, et nende üle ühtegi otsest isandat ei ole. Ordumeister päris kuningatelt aru selle kohta, miks eestlased nii palju sakslasi, teiste hulgas ka Padise mungad, ära olid tapnud. Selle peale vastasid kuningad, et neid (s.t. maarahvast) "olevat nii kaua piinatud ja vaevatud, et nad seda kauem enam sallida ega välja kannatada ei suutnud." Mis aga puutub Padise munkadesse, siis olnud neilgi "küllalt süüd, ja oleks veel üks küünrapikkune sakslane, peaks seegi surema".
Ordumeister Burchard von Dreileben kuulutas sellise "mõrtsukateo" karistuse vääriliseks ning teatas, et kuigi ta kuningaid ei puuduta ja nad vabaks jätab, ei luba ta neil ometi enne Paide ordulinnusest lahkuda, kuni ta eluga eestlastele kätte maksmast tagasi on tulnud. Kuningatest saadikud, kellele keskaegse kombe järgi oli antud turve (saadikupuutumatus), mis pidi neile kindlustama nende isikupuutumatuse, said sellise jämeda komberikkumise üle vihaseks ja nõudsid, et neid maleva juurde tagasi lastaks ja lubataks neil oma õnne ordurüütlite vastu lahinguväljal proovida, kuid tulutult.
Ordumeister tegi Järva foogt Luter Steckele ülesandeks eestlastest "külaliste" eest hoolitseda. "Liivimaa noorema riimkroonika" ja Marburgi Wigandi vastuoluliste kirjelduste järgi olevat väidetavalt eestlased Paide linnuse lahtises käigus kokkupõrke provotseerinud, mispeale sakslased neljale eestlaste kuningale ja nende kolmele sõjasulasele hulgakesi kallale tungisid ja nad kõik surnuks raiusid. Hilisemate tõlgenduste kohaselt peegeldavad need vastuolulised kirjeldused saksameelsete kroonikute kohmakat katset diplomaatilise etiketi vastu rängalt eksinud Liivi ordut õigustades ordu mainet kaitsta.
Hilisemad baltisaksa ajaloolasedki on pidanud tunnistama seda õigusvastaseks teoks ja mustaks plekiks minevikus.
Ülestõusu edasine kulg mandri-Eestis: Pärast eestlaste kuningate mõrvamist asus suur orduvägi Burchard von Dreilebeni juhtimisel Paidest Tallinna poole teele. Ometi ei liigutud otse Tallinna alla, vaid jäädi kõigepealt Oru mõisa (Kose khk) Kämbla külla üheks ööks ja päevaks laagrisse, et väesalgad seal koguneda saaksid. Turu ja Viiburi foogtide abivägesid ootavad eestlased kasutasid viivitust väesalkade saatmiseks orduga viivituslahingute pidamiseks.
http://eestielu.delfi.ee/harjumaa/kodulugu/jurioo-ulestousust-670-aastat-hiljem-kuidas-morvati-eesti-kuningad-ja-milliseid-taktikaid-eestlased-kasutasid?id=66105586&com=1®=0&no=0&s=1
30 May 2017 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Vp3ZJEavI
http://www.rajacas.com/kuni-su-kula-veel-elab-2016/
Lühilugude kogumikust leiab nostalgilisi mõtisklusi, aga ka külaelusündmuste jahmatavaid pöördeid, meie rikkalikust ajaloopärandist tingitud juhtumisi ning värvikaid tegelasi.
Nende kaante vahelt leiab ka tänaseks päevaks vaat et rahvalauluks saanud laulu „Eestimaa (Tuhanded külad)ˮ sünniloo ning originaalnoodi, aga ka kooriseade näite. Leiab mõne laulu veel.
„Kuni su küla veel elab, elad sina ka …ˮ Nii laulsid ansambli „Rajacasˮ noored poisid, nende hulgas tunnustatud doktor Mihkel Zilmer, 45 aastat tagasi, aga murelik küsimus, mis meist saab, on jätkuvalt ajakohane.
AUTORITEST
Jaak Sarapuu on pärast Valga 1. keskkooli lõpetamist õppinud lühiajaliselt Tartu ülikoolis õigusteadust ning Tallinna konservatooriumis näitekunsti. Seejärel astus ta uuesti Tartu ülikooli, mille lõpetas ajaloolasena. Ta on töötanud aastaid õpetajana ning kirjastajana. Aastate jooksul on ta kirjutanud lühijutte külaelust, ajaloolisi jutustusi Eestimaa muinasajast ning ajaloolise romaani Lembitust. Tema loomingut on tõlgitud vene, bulgaaria ja läti keelde. Kuulub Eesti Kirjanike Liitu.
Jaak on Mihkli onupoeg.
Mihkel Zilmer on arstiteadlane, meditsiinidoktor, meditsiinilise biokeemia professor. Juhendanud 25 doktoritööd (mitmed tema õpilased on nüüdseks professorid). Paljude patentide ja inimorganismi biokeemia ja tervisliku söömise õpikute/raamatute autor („Meditsiiniline biokeemiaˮ, „Vitamiinidˮ, „Mineraalainedˮ, „Normaalne söömineˮ, „Normaalne joomineˮ jm). Kaks korda autasustatud Eesti Vabariigi kõrgeima autasuga arstiteaduses. Eesti uute toitumis- ja liikumissoovituste (2016) üks autoritest.
„Rajacaseˮ koosseisus alates aastast 1966. Kirjutanud palju laule: „Eestimaa (Tuhanded külad)ˮ, „Armsas Tartus Vana Ülikoolˮ, „Ikka lühemaks jääb meie luuleˮ, „Pühi oma palgelt viimne pisarˮ jt.
Selles raamatus ilmub tema esimene ilukirjanduslik lugu.
Mihkel on Jaagu tädipoeg.
http://www.rajacas.com/kuni-su-kula-veel-elab-2016/
Lühilugude kogumikust leiab nostalgilisi mõtisklusi, aga ka külaelusündmuste jahmatavaid pöördeid, meie rikkalikust ajaloopärandist tingitud juhtumisi ning värvikaid tegelasi.
Nende kaante vahelt leiab ka tänaseks päevaks vaat et rahvalauluks saanud laulu „Eestimaa (Tuhanded külad)ˮ sünniloo ning originaalnoodi, aga ka kooriseade näite. Leiab mõne laulu veel.
„Kuni su küla veel elab, elad sina ka …ˮ Nii laulsid ansambli „Rajacasˮ noored poisid, nende hulgas tunnustatud doktor Mihkel Zilmer, 45 aastat tagasi, aga murelik küsimus, mis meist saab, on jätkuvalt ajakohane.
AUTORITEST
Jaak Sarapuu on pärast Valga 1. keskkooli lõpetamist õppinud lühiajaliselt Tartu ülikoolis õigusteadust ning Tallinna konservatooriumis näitekunsti. Seejärel astus ta uuesti Tartu ülikooli, mille lõpetas ajaloolasena. Ta on töötanud aastaid õpetajana ning kirjastajana. Aastate jooksul on ta kirjutanud lühijutte külaelust, ajaloolisi jutustusi Eestimaa muinasajast ning ajaloolise romaani Lembitust. Tema loomingut on tõlgitud vene, bulgaaria ja läti keelde. Kuulub Eesti Kirjanike Liitu.
Jaak on Mihkli onupoeg.
Mihkel Zilmer on arstiteadlane, meditsiinidoktor, meditsiinilise biokeemia professor. Juhendanud 25 doktoritööd (mitmed tema õpilased on nüüdseks professorid). Paljude patentide ja inimorganismi biokeemia ja tervisliku söömise õpikute/raamatute autor („Meditsiiniline biokeemiaˮ, „Vitamiinidˮ, „Mineraalainedˮ, „Normaalne söömineˮ, „Normaalne joomineˮ jm). Kaks korda autasustatud Eesti Vabariigi kõrgeima autasuga arstiteaduses. Eesti uute toitumis- ja liikumissoovituste (2016) üks autoritest.
„Rajacaseˮ koosseisus alates aastast 1966. Kirjutanud palju laule: „Eestimaa (Tuhanded külad)ˮ, „Armsas Tartus Vana Ülikoolˮ, „Ikka lühemaks jääb meie luuleˮ, „Pühi oma palgelt viimne pisarˮ jt.
Selles raamatus ilmub tema esimene ilukirjanduslik lugu.
Mihkel on Jaagu tädipoeg.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Vp3ZJEavI
30 May 2017 02:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
“2009. aastal anti Brüsselis Euroopa Liidu Nõukogu sekretariaadi poolt välja raamat „Europe giving shape to an idea“, milles Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeldi on oma poliitilise traktaadiga “Neues Staats-Gebäude in drey Büchern.” („Uus riigiehitus“) peetud üheks esimeseks Euroopa Liidu–idee autoriks”
“Uue-Põltsamaa mõisniku Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeldi (1716-1785) elu ja tegevuse kohta ja on pühendatud tema 300. sünniaastapäevale.
J.H. von Lilienfeld oli baltisaksa filosoof, näitekirjanik, esseist ja juhuluuletaja. Ta on andnud oma panuse ka Euroopa ühinemise ideesse. Oma kolmes avaldatud vihikus analüüsis ta Euroopa ühinemise võimalusi kõikide ühise eesmärgi nimel – lõpetada igaveseks sõjad. J.H. von Lilienfeld oli tuntud ka tugeva maletajana. Uue-Põltsamaa mõis korraldas tema mälestuseks maleturniiri Lilienfeld Cup ”
http://www.kultuur.info/syndmus/maleturniir-lilienfeld-cup-2016/
http://www.kultuurikava.ee/event/maleturniir-lilienfeld-cup-2017
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Heinrich_von_Lilienfeld
“Uue-Põltsamaa mõisniku Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeldi (1716-1785) elu ja tegevuse kohta ja on pühendatud tema 300. sünniaastapäevale.
J.H. von Lilienfeld oli baltisaksa filosoof, näitekirjanik, esseist ja juhuluuletaja. Ta on andnud oma panuse ka Euroopa ühinemise ideesse. Oma kolmes avaldatud vihikus analüüsis ta Euroopa ühinemise võimalusi kõikide ühise eesmärgi nimel – lõpetada igaveseks sõjad. J.H. von Lilienfeld oli tuntud ka tugeva maletajana. Uue-Põltsamaa mõis korraldas tema mälestuseks maleturniiri Lilienfeld Cup ”
http://www.kultuur.info/syndmus/maleturniir-lilienfeld-cup-2016/
http://www.kultuurikava.ee/event/maleturniir-lilienfeld-cup-2017
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Heinrich_von_Lilienfeld
http://www.kultuur.info/syndmus/maleturniir-lilienfeld-cup-2016/
30 May 2017 02:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Väikelaste Pillel tehtud lugu... teemaks kuidasEuroopa Liit meiega liitus,
(või noh, me nagu suunasime, et nii teeks, aga see las olla.. pidagem meeles lihtsalt, et Esimene tõsine arvestatav Teos European Union - EU loomiseks Sündis Eestis, Eesti naiste armastuse ja Balti Sakslaste funktsionaalsuse koostööl. Või kes teab, see räägib)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOOfxnE20LE
(või noh, me nagu suunasime, et nii teeks, aga see las olla.. pidagem meeles lihtsalt, et Esimene tõsine arvestatav Teos European Union - EU loomiseks Sündis Eestis, Eesti naiste armastuse ja Balti Sakslaste funktsionaalsuse koostööl. Või kes teab, see räägib)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOOfxnE20LE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOOfxnE20LE
30 May 2017 01:55
Margus Meigo replied to Vicky Korju's comment.
...mis siin õnneks..
30 May 2017 01:51
Margus Meigo commented on Margus Nigol's photo.
"2 To Ru"
30 May 2017 01:50
Margus Meigo commented on Margus Nigol's photo.
Nu mis see juhtus mis see juhtus ?
30 May 2017 01:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nii juhtub, kui meiemaal shamaani rohud keelati ja alkoholi ning masinatega asendati
30 May 2017 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on Loomus's photo.
kurb
30 May 2017 01:28
Margus Meigo replied to Kaidi Kask's comment.
Kaidi, Sina ise ju LoomAarst?
30 May 2017 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Lints's post.
Sa oled u200 st väheseid Mehi kes seda jaganud..
30 May 2017 01:23
Margus Meigo replied to Marve Allik's comment.
teisipidi vaadates isekast mõtlemisest tulnud..
30 May 2017 01:21
Margus Meigo replied to Olev Lõndso's comment.
kurb jah..
30 May 2017 01:20
Margus Meigo replied to Niisama Mees's comment.
whats funny?
30 May 2017 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to Liisi Kambek's comment.
kuidas neid aidata ?
30 May 2017 01:18
Margus Meigo replied to Märten Tuuling's comment.
on..
30 May 2017 01:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eesti mees pole naljamees
PR – Vajalikud sõnumid vajalikul ajal
“Valimiste lakkamatus, See on riigi riiklik matus
Elu krampleb infoprügis, Koolitarkust ei too ka sügis”
PR kolmandas faasis (1992-1993) tekkis muusikalis-sõnaline aja lugu, sest nii toimusidki sündmused neil aastatel. EV uusehitus oli käivitumas, kokkuseatud uus valitsus salmitus hämmastavalt hästi, igatsorti tegelased tõmbasid köisi; ilmutati nimekirju; saabusid „talendid“, uljusidee 5-st osariigist, mõni karjus, et EV ellujäämise määrab vaid hõlmikpuu (sündroom?), kodusoomlast omav talinlane oli see õige eestlane, jne. Kuula! Kuuled oraakellikkust, aga ka aegumatust ka aastal 2014…. Ridadevahelist on ka nii palju, et torkab lausa füüsiliselt silma. Ja veel. Lõpetagem lühendi PR vale mõistmine: see on juba eelmise sajandi kuuekümnendatest tähendanud Protsess Rajacas, mitte Public Relations.
Viis: Mihkel Zilmer. Sõnad: A. Pulges, V. Leping, M. Zilmer, T. Tasa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plTYYDSEPYU
PR – Vajalikud sõnumid vajalikul ajal
“Valimiste lakkamatus, See on riigi riiklik matus
Elu krampleb infoprügis, Koolitarkust ei too ka sügis”
PR kolmandas faasis (1992-1993) tekkis muusikalis-sõnaline aja lugu, sest nii toimusidki sündmused neil aastatel. EV uusehitus oli käivitumas, kokkuseatud uus valitsus salmitus hämmastavalt hästi, igatsorti tegelased tõmbasid köisi; ilmutati nimekirju; saabusid „talendid“, uljusidee 5-st osariigist, mõni karjus, et EV ellujäämise määrab vaid hõlmikpuu (sündroom?), kodusoomlast omav talinlane oli see õige eestlane, jne. Kuula! Kuuled oraakellikkust, aga ka aegumatust ka aastal 2014…. Ridadevahelist on ka nii palju, et torkab lausa füüsiliselt silma. Ja veel. Lõpetagem lühendi PR vale mõistmine: see on juba eelmise sajandi kuuekümnendatest tähendanud Protsess Rajacas, mitte Public Relations.
Viis: Mihkel Zilmer. Sõnad: A. Pulges, V. Leping, M. Zilmer, T. Tasa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plTYYDSEPYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plTYYDSEPYU
30 May 2017 01:08
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Konservatiivne Rahvaerakond's link.
Lipsud,ikkagi lipsud...millest vabanema peame
30 May 2017 00:52
Margus Meigo commented on Maris Pihelgas's photo.
Linane kleit on ikka palju parem: )
30 May 2017 00:12
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kuigi eks reformarotie tagumine on selline pool võõrhuvide teenimine ja kulunud plaat, kuid vähemalt mitmeid asju nimetas õige suuna ja lausa õige nimegagi vast.
Lihtsalt jah.. kui keegi julgeks päris rooma impeeriumi käsilaste osas sedasi rääkida, siis oleks tore.. aga näe ei saa, sest teed pole selle osas ette nämmutatud ja sillutatud...27 May 2017 17:34
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Sarri's photo.
AI, miks siin postitusel pole "jaga" nuppu.. urrh!
26 May 2017 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on Jolly Rodger's photo.
First time over long time i see beer bottle to be nice
26 May 2017 23:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
(hammer as we know, is a symbol, few kinds, and cleaning out the.. (and the "wrong way" of ancient swastika also works ..))
.. must be the hairdressing..
.. must be the hairdressing..
26 May 2017 23:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
The hammer and.. cleaning tools for the.. so what was the real meaning of this again.. will come to me on time.
26 May 2017 23:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
We need more human supremacists who understand responsibility of managing angels
full responsibility
full responsibility
26 May 2017 22:52
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Toomas Sirge valus ajutine tõde
26 May 2017 22:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov i know there is at minimum idea of a God what need to be served for starters by anyone who want to be worthy of human species name
26 May 2017 22:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
of course, personally,
beard with longer hair is all together next level : )
beard with longer hair is all together next level : )
26 May 2017 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on Christos Dovas's photo.
26 May 2017 21:23
Margus Meigo commented on Ben Kraus's photo.
Kazemir Malevich .. does not see that to often on screen : )
26 May 2017 11:37
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Pentagram is technology, eagle is their spirit how they rule and logo, what You can see from UN to celebratory awards to Soviet Union, is the representation of physical means how species are managed by matter, to think Earthly, but will, we will go in to this more..
some of their company does not hide their spirit at all and here is clear example of some of their spirits talk:
"You are already naked. You are already destined for death. Conquer your fears and I promise you will conquer death. If you take these inevitabilities to heart and seek to change the world and cure poverty in your lifetime and progress the human race forward through developing technology and innovation then contact Kraus Industries immediately. We accept only the brightest, most passionate and open minded candidates. What we do here will change the world for the better and our work will live on far after we arrive in Valhalla. Ask yourself the most important and fundamental question in life... Do you want your life to matter? "
___
" First Bitcoin consultant to the UN. Early Bitcoin investor. Building a unified one world digital currency and payment system. Architect in spirit. "
"I'm a early Bitcoin adopter and entrepreneur. While that is how I've made my money and money for my shareholders, the statement is meaningless. It does not describe what I am. I am the culmination of my passions. I am an architect, an engineer, a mechanic, a machinist, a gunsmith, a metalsmith, a craftsman, a stone mason. I was born to design innovative technology and systems. Sometimes physical and tangible and sometimes metaphysical/virtual and intangible. My potential to create change is limited only by my God given gifts as a builder which is manifested through the products and innovations I create and projects I contribute to. I enjoy developing technology that make the world a better and more efficient place for humans. Making the world a better place by leveraging technology to achieve measurable and quantifiable results is what allows me to place meaning to my life. I'm an idealist and continually strive for unattainable perfection in all matters. This means I will never be happy but it also means my life is only worth living if it has meaning and purpose. Because results are what I measure myself and others by and thus by extension my purpose and meaning, I've come to circumscribe my idealism with ruthlessly efficient pragmatism. I've always been interested in esoteric spirituality, the occult and my place in the grand scheme of this world. Automation tickles my passion and desire for order and structure. When I am not working on Bitcoin, I spend my time tinkering and designing new and innovative technology products in my laboratory while working on and building the latest and most sophisticated drones and super computers. I place my faith in tradition to guide my devotion to my family and circumscribe my passions.
Michel Sidibé and I at the World Health Organization (WHO) Headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland. Michel is the Executive Director for UNAIDS and the current Under Secretary General of the United Nations. Kraus Industries was the first Digital Currency corporation to be consulted in the the global implementation of the United Nation's Sustainable Development Goals.
Michel Sidibé and I at the World Health Organization (WHO) Headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland. Michel is the Executive Director for UNAIDS and the current Under Secretary General of the United Nations. Kraus Industries was the first Digital Currency corporation to be consulted in the the global implementation of the United Nation's Sustainable Development Goals. "
"When beauty, ergonomics Analytical and visualization technology Combine with the most powerful processing power Available : there is no limit to the Human Spirit. We call it transcendence. "
some of their company does not hide their spirit at all and here is clear example of some of their spirits talk:
"You are already naked. You are already destined for death. Conquer your fears and I promise you will conquer death. If you take these inevitabilities to heart and seek to change the world and cure poverty in your lifetime and progress the human race forward through developing technology and innovation then contact Kraus Industries immediately. We accept only the brightest, most passionate and open minded candidates. What we do here will change the world for the better and our work will live on far after we arrive in Valhalla. Ask yourself the most important and fundamental question in life... Do you want your life to matter? "
___
" First Bitcoin consultant to the UN. Early Bitcoin investor. Building a unified one world digital currency and payment system. Architect in spirit. "
"I'm a early Bitcoin adopter and entrepreneur. While that is how I've made my money and money for my shareholders, the statement is meaningless. It does not describe what I am. I am the culmination of my passions. I am an architect, an engineer, a mechanic, a machinist, a gunsmith, a metalsmith, a craftsman, a stone mason. I was born to design innovative technology and systems. Sometimes physical and tangible and sometimes metaphysical/virtual and intangible. My potential to create change is limited only by my God given gifts as a builder which is manifested through the products and innovations I create and projects I contribute to. I enjoy developing technology that make the world a better and more efficient place for humans. Making the world a better place by leveraging technology to achieve measurable and quantifiable results is what allows me to place meaning to my life. I'm an idealist and continually strive for unattainable perfection in all matters. This means I will never be happy but it also means my life is only worth living if it has meaning and purpose. Because results are what I measure myself and others by and thus by extension my purpose and meaning, I've come to circumscribe my idealism with ruthlessly efficient pragmatism. I've always been interested in esoteric spirituality, the occult and my place in the grand scheme of this world. Automation tickles my passion and desire for order and structure. When I am not working on Bitcoin, I spend my time tinkering and designing new and innovative technology products in my laboratory while working on and building the latest and most sophisticated drones and super computers. I place my faith in tradition to guide my devotion to my family and circumscribe my passions.
Michel Sidibé and I at the World Health Organization (WHO) Headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland. Michel is the Executive Director for UNAIDS and the current Under Secretary General of the United Nations. Kraus Industries was the first Digital Currency corporation to be consulted in the the global implementation of the United Nation's Sustainable Development Goals.
Michel Sidibé and I at the World Health Organization (WHO) Headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland. Michel is the Executive Director for UNAIDS and the current Under Secretary General of the United Nations. Kraus Industries was the first Digital Currency corporation to be consulted in the the global implementation of the United Nation's Sustainable Development Goals. "
"When beauty, ergonomics Analytical and visualization technology Combine with the most powerful processing power Available : there is no limit to the Human Spirit. We call it transcendence. "
26 May 2017 11:27
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
i will try, when i can find a word,
i mean, he really is in elite force, not in full professional and experience organized earthly way, but the whole being, .. what potential i can see etc, if used carelessly as right now, can do a lot of harm also, ... about "modern art" for example he was able to nearly perfect way explain for common man what is going on, but at same time making mistakes of many other arias, common arias from Hillary to Parry. ... as he is elite tool of these, who direct ones eyes on one direction, as he is hold by the opposite force and he can not see behinds ones own back.
This is why i have not heard from him appropriate comparison between fascist, communist and democracy that is in current world nearly clearly easy to see that they surrender under same Roman Empire (viljapeade logo) force and pentagrams, instead of the cross, nature or Torah
http://www.eu4wiki.com/Roman_Empire
i mean, he really is in elite force, not in full professional and experience organized earthly way, but the whole being, .. what potential i can see etc, if used carelessly as right now, can do a lot of harm also, ... about "modern art" for example he was able to nearly perfect way explain for common man what is going on, but at same time making mistakes of many other arias, common arias from Hillary to Parry. ... as he is elite tool of these, who direct ones eyes on one direction, as he is hold by the opposite force and he can not see behinds ones own back.
This is why i have not heard from him appropriate comparison between fascist, communist and democracy that is in current world nearly clearly easy to see that they surrender under same Roman Empire (viljapeade logo) force and pentagrams, instead of the cross, nature or Torah
http://www.eu4wiki.com/Roman_Empire
26 May 2017 11:13
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
meelte libestamiseks st
26 May 2017 11:04
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
ja linna all mõtlen ikka ka kõiki maal elavaid kellel on telekas kodus olemas või alkoholi pudel, meelte hägustamiseks, kui pea enam tõde võtta ei julge
26 May 2017 11:04
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
eks uut võõrelementi endasse integreerida keeruline jah,
muidugi vanad Eestlased olid miskit muud... nad elasid taktis, suhtlesid taimede ja piirkoade ning veega, olles pidevalt Jumala taktis ja suurte tabude õpetuses.. kuid eks näis, kas tänapäeva linna siledad inimesed enam suudavad, sellest aru saada mis ja kuidas oli ja on oluline
muidugi vanad Eestlased olid miskit muud... nad elasid taktis, suhtlesid taimede ja piirkoade ning veega, olles pidevalt Jumala taktis ja suurte tabude õpetuses.. kuid eks näis, kas tänapäeva linna siledad inimesed enam suudavad, sellest aru saada mis ja kuidas oli ja on oluline
26 May 2017 11:03
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Good they make news about it but same time should not be so sloppy and let in sentences that would make all them look as harm makers in comparable way
25 May 2017 23:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and i am not (New)Harvard University graduate
and if You make a mushrooms You can find out that other people are also smart
and if You make a mushrooms You can find out that other people are also smart
25 May 2017 23:26
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
well, i can find out this same just by taking a pipe
25 May 2017 23:25
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Strange thing indeed
25 May 2017 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
minute past 7,
Reason: Because people become too comfortable with each other
Reason Magazine
Reason: Because people become too comfortable with each other
Reason Magazine
25 May 2017 21:06
Margus Meigo commented on Marianna Pro's photo.
So what is on the mic, on topic ?
25 May 2017 20:44
Margus Meigo commented on Marianna Pro's photo.
kena
25 May 2017 20:43
Margus Meigo commented on Marianna Pro's post.
Okey, how was one able to cut it like that,
so the blades stick out like this ?
so the blades stick out like this ?
25 May 2017 20:43
Margus Meigo replied to Margit Solo's comment.
Margit Miller-Solo kuid ikka kuidas see tõsi on, et meessoost, kas selle kohta folkloor.ee s miskit material ika on ?
Mis lugu selle kohta on mis seda kindlamalt paika paneb
Mis lugu selle kohta on mis seda kindlamalt paika paneb
25 May 2017 20:41
Margus Meigo replied to Hevely Koppel's comment.
Ilusad tänud : )
25 May 2017 20:38
Margus Meigo replied to Lauri Takk's comment.
Kui keegi mulle enda erilisust avab ja selgita, siis see minusugustele on suurim põhiline väärtus mille läbi ma seda kehastust või inimest hindan ja imetled, ja seda kiiresti kaasa, juurde, edasi aidata proovin mis nad on ja olla soovivad, või juhendada turvalisemaks paremaks kui suunad on üldseadustega konfliktis või teda ennast, teisi ohustavalt kiivas, siis seda ka kas avatult või ajastatult paremaks teen lennult, sest iga inimene mis elab paremini siin kas praegu või tulevikus on minu agendale, suunale ja südamesoovile otseseks kasuks.
Igaüks kes vähendab väärastumist ja arendab ja kaitseb headust on minu sõber, olenemata tema enda soovist.
Igaüks kes vähendab väärastumist ja arendab ja kaitseb headust on minu sõber, olenemata tema enda soovist.
25 May 2017 20:36
Margus Meigo replied to Lauri Takk's comment.
Kuid suurem osa inimesi on nii isekalt nartsisisstlikud, et kui kuulevad, et kuskil keegi ennast "neist enamustest" erilisemaks kuulutavad, siis neid valdab suur kibestuse, viha, kadeduse, rünnaku või arusaamatuse laine lisaks muudele vääremotsioonidele (kõik emotsioonid ei ole õiged nende kasulikuse silmavaatest, tunded saavad õiged olla nende naturaalsuse osas enamasti)
25 May 2017 20:31
Margus Meigo replied to Lauri Takk's comment.
Kati Tõnismäe nii see on, kuid ma olen vaieldamatult absoluutselt eritingimustes võrreldes enamuse planeedil olnud inimestega eriti praeguses ajas.
See on elementaarnew mida ise pean meeles hoidma ja pidevalt leidmaneid, kes sellest õigesti aru saavad ning seda kasuks kasutavad milleks see olukord on loodud
See on elementaarnew mida ise pean meeles hoidma ja pidevalt leidmaneid, kes sellest õigesti aru saavad ning seda kasuks kasutavad milleks see olukord on loodud
25 May 2017 20:29
Margus Meigo replied to Lauri Takk's comment.
lihtsus on minu maailmas lihtsalt olukord, kussaan tehsa tööd mida tegelikult vajame
25 May 2017 16:58
Margus Meigo replied to Lauri Takk's comment.
Loodan naise saamiseks aluspõhja koos kasukaga saada.
Ja vahest ei ole lihtsam kasukat hankida kui võõrsile minna
Ja vahest ei ole lihtsam kasukat hankida kui võõrsile minna
25 May 2017 16:58
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
This is absolute fact, impossible to refute that Katy Perry is doing extremely beneficial and Good directed work, and anyone who is not sure or even against Her is lacking proper deeper heart level intelligence at best case, this can be simple intelligence test i have done for people usually, showing them few clips of Her work, and if they do not understand, then this is for sure sing important lack of understanding in levels that this one failed to realize Her greatness will not qualify any kind of final level Judgment over matters of Earthly Orders
We can still be critical on Katy Perry, Lady GaGa, in reason to Help them, but most of all first One must understand what and why they do: Why they are on Earth
We can still be critical on Katy Perry, Lady GaGa, in reason to Help them, but most of all first One must understand what and why they do: Why they are on Earth
25 May 2017 16:43
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Paul Joseph Watson has always been wrong about Perry as they are from a different world, Katy pro-earthly spiritual being who play out extreme deep and intelligent themes rapped in candy paper and easy to understand for open heart people while PJW is from Greek-Roman planetary invaders division who play out manipulation of rational logic and facts painting illusion that are harmfully efficient specially for these who are not from Nature-Matriarchy realization sides.
he is efficient weapon and collected a lot of support by tapping in to many correct assumptions and facts, but as a robot he is unable to differentiate the heart related and understand beauty from feminine point of view in human cell level, so he is unable jet to understand how he is used as weapon against life.
is hard to genuinely attack as he is the Elite fascist, the original communist,
who chooses only these insults and misunderstandings that is impossible to explain with few sentences.
He is using truth directed emotions for the points, so it is
complicated. lengthy to explain why he is bad, wrong specially to these who has not jet understood basic anti-nature communist forces behind InfoWars from early on.
he is efficient weapon and collected a lot of support by tapping in to many correct assumptions and facts, but as a robot he is unable to differentiate the heart related and understand beauty from feminine point of view in human cell level, so he is unable jet to understand how he is used as weapon against life.
is hard to genuinely attack as he is the Elite fascist, the original communist,
who chooses only these insults and misunderstandings that is impossible to explain with few sentences.
He is using truth directed emotions for the points, so it is
complicated. lengthy to explain why he is bad, wrong specially to these who has not jet understood basic anti-nature communist forces behind InfoWars from early on.
25 May 2017 16:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
ega meigast ilmaaegu tuviks kutsutu
25 May 2017 04:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
(yes, no paintshop, only natural pictures)
25 May 2017 04:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
what is meaning of "rubbish" ? Angeles Josh
25 May 2017 03:58
Margus Meigo commented on Joyce Rheal's post.
nice tools still
25 May 2017 03:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"We delivered the mail before there was word for it, WirelessLy."
including Royal mail.
including Royal mail.
25 May 2017 03:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Privet, Welcome to USA,
One of my favorite beings on Earth
http://www.kulturologia.ru/blogs/010317/33631/
One of my favorite beings on Earth
http://www.kulturologia.ru/blogs/010317/33631/
http://www.kulturologia.ru/blogs/010317/33631/
25 May 2017 03:18
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's post.
Here is some more,
With names
http://www.kulturologia.ru/blogs/010317/33631/
With names
http://www.kulturologia.ru/blogs/010317/33631/
http://www.kulturologia.ru/blogs/010317/33631/
25 May 2017 03:12
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's post.
omg what You sharin u erotic madame you
kiwi was a bit to fast
kiwi was a bit to fast
25 May 2017 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
4 eXample:
the birthday video about time/mind swap
and something whit what even in folklore National Agencies can blackmail one another, more simply anyone who got (a lot of ) resources,
can try to hijack Your persona.
Up to point they can own you identity
(always not really nice what is needed to do for that it would look natural for a person a... but for the owners of industry really may think, that they can own the tools they allow to be )
agents counties, training villages, project city block etc
the birthday video about time/mind swap
and something whit what even in folklore National Agencies can blackmail one another, more simply anyone who got (a lot of ) resources,
can try to hijack Your persona.
Up to point they can own you identity
(always not really nice what is needed to do for that it would look natural for a person a... but for the owners of industry really may think, that they can own the tools they allow to be )
agents counties, training villages, project city block etc
25 May 2017 02:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Specially impressive as the ones who have been keeping eyes, heart on her know, the naive, woman and power sides of Her in natural and mystical up to technological and alien, besides Royal sides.
And for sure Cristian and daring kinds of intelligent tasteful humor
And for sure Cristian and daring kinds of intelligent tasteful humor
25 May 2017 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to Lauri Takk's comment.
kui kasukat oleks siis ikka reaalselt jääks aastaringi siin nautlema,
ja veel lootma, et kodumaa naine kätevahele jookseb,
ise ei saa mehena neil aegadel enam arvestatavana olevana kellegipoole jooksev olla kuna võib vabalt mööda trelle joosta nii, et eluksajaks muhk otsaees
ja veel lootma, et kodumaa naine kätevahele jookseb,
ise ei saa mehena neil aegadel enam arvestatavana olevana kellegipoole jooksev olla kuna võib vabalt mööda trelle joosta nii, et eluksajaks muhk otsaees
25 May 2017 02:36
Margus Meigo replied to Lauri Takk's comment.
pasiificlaste, filipiinlaste, microneesialaste hulka
kui juba asun siis tean öelda,
soojuse poole.. ikka soojuse poole
või nu selle lootuse vähemalt ikka
kui juba asun siis tean öelda,
soojuse poole.. ikka soojuse poole
või nu selle lootuse vähemalt ikka
25 May 2017 02:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja mis Sinu asi on kuidas söön,
kui tarvilikku head infot on kuidas saab paremini, siis muidugi..
kui tarvilikku head infot on kuidas saab paremini, siis muidugi..
25 May 2017 02:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just nii lihtne lause ongi, see osa mis endile arusaadev
25 May 2017 02:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi eks on ka tegu, et täielikult arusaamalõhestajaid mitte vahele enditele lastsa, kuid,
eks kui seda teistearusaamadest läbisõites eeldada, et tasub eeldada mitte, siis selles ma pigem eeldamise poolse suuna võtaks, head, mida korda saab tasub ikka eeldada
eks kui seda teistearusaamadest läbisõites eeldada, et tasub eeldada mitte, siis selles ma pigem eeldamise poolse suuna võtaks, head, mida korda saab tasub ikka eeldada
25 May 2017 02:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ma tõsiselt ei saa veel aru, mis nende inimestel VIGA on, kes laseb taimesi rünnata, ebatervislikult nuumata või muud ebasõbralikku neile teha ilma sees keevat raevu ja/või nutu valu endas jooksmas tundvat...
kuid kohe kui selle ka teada saab, saab ka see ravitud.
, mis nendel inimestel VIGA on, kes loevad, selliseid lauseid, ja
kui neil tekib kahtlus, et seda lastakse meelega juhtuda mitte selle ära hoidmiseks, vaid selle kasutamiseks ...
Sa pead ju tegutsema, Sa pead ju tundma,
ja kas mitte, eelkõige omasuguse päästeks omasuguseid eelkõige alustuseks elus hoidma,
sest seda saab siduda kergesti ühisorganismiks kes sarnane sulle või veelgi enam, seega siin ei saa olla mõtet eriti arvutamisel senikaua kui mõttemeeled on samasuunalised, ja veel teisi seniks kuni nad teisetiivapoole leidnud millega edasi lennata, või mõlema tiibu remotimiseks korra võtta, et alles jääks potensiaal su oma mõttele, rohkemana, mitmesena,
kuid kohe kui selle ka teada saab, saab ka see ravitud.
, mis nendel inimestel VIGA on, kes loevad, selliseid lauseid, ja
kui neil tekib kahtlus, et seda lastakse meelega juhtuda mitte selle ära hoidmiseks, vaid selle kasutamiseks ...
Sa pead ju tegutsema, Sa pead ju tundma,
ja kas mitte, eelkõige omasuguse päästeks omasuguseid eelkõige alustuseks elus hoidma,
sest seda saab siduda kergesti ühisorganismiks kes sarnane sulle või veelgi enam, seega siin ei saa olla mõtet eriti arvutamisel senikaua kui mõttemeeled on samasuunalised, ja veel teisi seniks kuni nad teisetiivapoole leidnud millega edasi lennata, või mõlema tiibu remotimiseks korra võtta, et alles jääks potensiaal su oma mõttele, rohkemana, mitmesena,
25 May 2017 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuidagi uues kohas vähe julgem uuesti toimetada, ilma, et muljet jääks nagu püssirohuga sealiha küpsetada sooviks,
mitte, et ma,
kumbagi sooviks
mitte, et ma,
kumbagi sooviks
25 May 2017 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi mitte südames,
oh ei, mõtle nüüd peaga
Selle võtan kaasa
oh ei, mõtle nüüd peaga
Selle võtan kaasa
25 May 2017 01:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
25 May 2017 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And i hope they not try to tell here, that they in knowingly, have caused plants a stress with out being Charged for that
http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-1-4614-4633-0_12#page-1
http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-1-4614-4633-0_12#page-1
http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-1-4614-4633-0_12#page-1
25 May 2017 01:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
peab korra eksootilistes laborites, kasvuhoonetes ja võõramaa hooles end hoidma, et juuri koguda, mis siis ehk uue üritusena kunagi kuskile sisemaale endal selle metsalähedase inimhõredaasustusega koduparadiisi leiavad.
kurb minna, kuid mis vähemkurvaks teeb, et muidu ei saaks ju olla
kurb minna, kuid mis vähemkurvaks teeb, et muidu ei saaks ju olla
25 May 2017 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
neid samaturvaliselt nautida kui me maal.. küll keeruline ette kujutada, kas on olemas muid looduse looja poolt sama turvalisi kohti veel..
kuid endale pole pinnast julgenud osata omada mis mu seemnest tolku tooks
kuid endale pole pinnast julgenud osata omada mis mu seemnest tolku tooks
25 May 2017 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
samblamätas
25 May 2017 00:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Süda tunneb end küll maiselt kui kasekänd kuid ei oska siin maal veel omaks saada, peab püüdma veel
ehk kunagi
ehk kunagi
25 May 2017 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on Paul Puustusmaa's post.
Tulnukas kes testisid Eestlaste tundelisust
Loodetavasti ei pidanud ta testima aastaid
Loodetavasti ei pidanud ta testima aastaid
25 May 2017 00:40
Margus Meigo commented on Alari Rammo's photo.
Õnnelikud lapsed Sul olema saavad Kai Kubja
Kui ka ise leiaks tee sellise õigus tunnetusega Naise suunas
Kui ka ise leiaks tee sellise õigus tunnetusega Naise suunas
25 May 2017 00:25
Margus Meigo commented on Vello Orutar's post.
Still not as green as Adolf
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater
24 May 2017 23:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
karm
"Igal kevadel viiakse veokitega miljoneid mesilastarusid Californias asuvasse Central Valleysse ja teistesse põllumajandusega tegelevatesse piirkondadesse, et asendada seal varem tegutsenud tolmlejad, kes on riigi mitmes osas peaaegu viimseni kadunud. Neile mesilastele söödetakse toitva mee asemel regulaarselt kõrge fruktoosisisaldusega maisisiirupit. Produktiivsuse suurendamise nimel viljastatakse emasmesilased nüüd kunstlikult, mis aga on viinud häiriva mandumiseni mesilaste bioloogilises mitmekesisuses. Mesilased kaetakse ka keemiliste mürkidega, mille eesmärk on tõrjuda lesti ja teisi haigustekitajaid, mis levivad suurtes mesilastest pungil tarudes massiliselt."
"Igal kevadel viiakse veokitega miljoneid mesilastarusid Californias asuvasse Central Valleysse ja teistesse põllumajandusega tegelevatesse piirkondadesse, et asendada seal varem tegutsenud tolmlejad, kes on riigi mitmes osas peaaegu viimseni kadunud. Neile mesilastele söödetakse toitva mee asemel regulaarselt kõrge fruktoosisisaldusega maisisiirupit. Produktiivsuse suurendamise nimel viljastatakse emasmesilased nüüd kunstlikult, mis aga on viinud häiriva mandumiseni mesilaste bioloogilises mitmekesisuses. Mesilased kaetakse ka keemiliste mürkidega, mille eesmärk on tõrjuda lesti ja teisi haigustekitajaid, mis levivad suurtes mesilastest pungil tarudes massiliselt."
24 May 2017 23:42
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
what is better then inner peace?
Inner peace with a luxury :p
Inner peace with a luxury :p
24 May 2017 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
also can break and ruin, and lost best
24 May 2017 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
"Keskkonnateadlase ja kirjaniku Bill McKibbeni sõnadega: "Mingist hetkest alates ei saa me enam sundida loodust meie tööstusmudelile alluma."
kuid nagu kommunistide sloogan pool sajandit oli enamusel planeedil:
Raadiost olin juba ammu selgeks saanud laulu „Noorte mitšuurinlaste marss“, milles öeldi:
„Me loodust julgelt muudame,
ei oota temalt mingeid ande,
ja lippu helkivat kandes,
me laulame tegudest, mis ees!“
Koolis sain teada, et uhke loosungi „Me ei oota looduselt mingeid armuande, vaid muudame seda ise!“ oli välja mõelnud kuulus vene looduseuurija Ivan Mitšurin. Mitšurin oli nii tähtis mees, et tema nimega tänavaid leidus tollal paljudes linnades. Tallinnaski muudeti sellal Wismari tänav Ivan Mitšurini uulitsaks.
Mees oli minu meelest seda ka väärt: mõelda vaid, mis kõik tal mõttes mõlkus: ploomimaitseliste õunte, kirsimaitseliste pihlakate, vaarikamaitseliste pirnide aretamine! Kas poleks vahva näiteks isa üllatada sellega, et paned talle pihku pirni, aga kui ta seda hammustab, tuleb keelele hoopis vaarikamaitse! „Tohoh!“ ütleb ta siis kindlasti üllatunult — ja see juba oleks midagi!
http://taheke.delfi.ee/taheke/loodus/kuidas-ma-loodust-muutsin?id=27226409
kuid nagu kommunistide sloogan pool sajandit oli enamusel planeedil:
Raadiost olin juba ammu selgeks saanud laulu „Noorte mitšuurinlaste marss“, milles öeldi:
„Me loodust julgelt muudame,
ei oota temalt mingeid ande,
ja lippu helkivat kandes,
me laulame tegudest, mis ees!“
Koolis sain teada, et uhke loosungi „Me ei oota looduselt mingeid armuande, vaid muudame seda ise!“ oli välja mõelnud kuulus vene looduseuurija Ivan Mitšurin. Mitšurin oli nii tähtis mees, et tema nimega tänavaid leidus tollal paljudes linnades. Tallinnaski muudeti sellal Wismari tänav Ivan Mitšurini uulitsaks.
Mees oli minu meelest seda ka väärt: mõelda vaid, mis kõik tal mõttes mõlkus: ploomimaitseliste õunte, kirsimaitseliste pihlakate, vaarikamaitseliste pirnide aretamine! Kas poleks vahva näiteks isa üllatada sellega, et paned talle pihku pirni, aga kui ta seda hammustab, tuleb keelele hoopis vaarikamaitse! „Tohoh!“ ütleb ta siis kindlasti üllatunult — ja see juba oleks midagi!
http://taheke.delfi.ee/taheke/loodus/kuidas-ma-loodust-muutsin?id=27226409
http://taheke.delfi.ee/taheke/loodus/kuidas-ma-loodust-muutsin?id=27226409
24 May 2017 23:35
Margus Meigo replied to Des Brittain's comment.
We keep telling same in Estonia
24 May 2017 23:33
Margus Meigo commented on Jekaterina Trjapitskina's photo.
peaasi, et ikka üleskasvades me kõrgtehnoloogilisteks terveteks orjadeks ei asu vaid ikka päris selle poole ka õpime mis päris niane ja mees olla saaks, kui metsaseentega, maagilistega ning muude puude siselugudega kursis hoida
24 May 2017 23:31
Margus Meigo commented on Christine Ann Sands's post.
This is the best Court,
as Trump would say
as Trump would say
24 May 2017 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Keskkonnateadlase ja kirjaniku Bill McKibbeni sõnadega: "Mingist hetkest alates ei saa me enam sundida loodust meie tööstusmudelile alluma. Mesilasperede kollaps on hoiatus. Mõned nutikad mesinikud, kes on välja mõelnud, kuidas töötada mesilastega kui võrdsetega, mitte kui nende isandatena, pakuvad seeläbi ettenägelikku lootust paljudele meie ökoloogilistele probleemidele."
Tõlkinud Joonas Orav
http://alkeemia.delfi.ee/keskkond/planeetmaa/tana-on-uleilmne-mesilaste-paev-haihtuvate-mesilaste-moistatus-lahendatud?id=69698541
Tõlkinud Joonas Orav
http://alkeemia.delfi.ee/keskkond/planeetmaa/tana-on-uleilmne-mesilaste-paev-haihtuvate-mesilaste-moistatus-lahendatud?id=69698541
http://alkeemia.delfi.ee/keskkond/planeetmaa/tana-on-uleilmne-mesilaste-paev-haihtuvate-mesilaste-moistatus-lahendatud?id=69698541
24 May 2017 23:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
karm
"Igal kevadel viiakse veokitega miljoneid mesilastarusid Californias asuvasse Central Valleysse ja teistesse põllumajandusega tegelevatesse piirkondadesse, et asendada seal varem tegutsenud tolmlejad, kes on riigi mitmes osas peaaegu viimseni kadunud. Neile mesilastele söödetakse toitva mee asemel regulaarselt kõrge fruktoosisisaldusega maisisiirupit. Produktiivsuse suurendamise nimel viljastatakse emasmesilased nüüd kunstlikult, mis aga on viinud häiriva mandumiseni mesilaste bioloogilises mitmekesisuses. Mesilased kaetakse ka keemiliste mürkidega, mille eesmärk on tõrjuda lesti ja teisi haigustekitajaid, mis levivad suurtes mesilastest pungil tarudes massiliselt."
"Igal kevadel viiakse veokitega miljoneid mesilastarusid Californias asuvasse Central Valleysse ja teistesse põllumajandusega tegelevatesse piirkondadesse, et asendada seal varem tegutsenud tolmlejad, kes on riigi mitmes osas peaaegu viimseni kadunud. Neile mesilastele söödetakse toitva mee asemel regulaarselt kõrge fruktoosisisaldusega maisisiirupit. Produktiivsuse suurendamise nimel viljastatakse emasmesilased nüüd kunstlikult, mis aga on viinud häiriva mandumiseni mesilaste bioloogilises mitmekesisuses. Mesilased kaetakse ka keemiliste mürkidega, mille eesmärk on tõrjuda lesti ja teisi haigustekitajaid, mis levivad suurtes mesilastest pungil tarudes massiliselt."
24 May 2017 23:17
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
..neonikotinoidide..
"1923. aastal ennustas biodünaamilise põllumajanduse asutaja ja tänapäevase orgaanilise liikumise eelkäija sakslane Rudolph Steiner, et saja aasta jooksul viivad mesilaste aretamiseks kasutatavad tehislikud tööstusvõtted terve liigi kollapsini. Tema ennustus tabas naelapea pihta!"
"1923. aastal ennustas biodünaamilise põllumajanduse asutaja ja tänapäevase orgaanilise liikumise eelkäija sakslane Rudolph Steiner, et saja aasta jooksul viivad mesilaste aretamiseks kasutatavad tehislikud tööstusvõtted terve liigi kollapsini. Tema ennustus tabas naelapea pihta!"
24 May 2017 23:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Better look up where Estonia DNA come from,
// and what story they have in folk about sorting out the Atlantis because Atlantians started to make unneeded species.
But as long we are kept away from a herbs and mushrooms (the magic ones) then ... well, we miss out a lot even if all Roads in a Time are in same length
// and what story they have in folk about sorting out the Atlantis because Atlantians started to make unneeded species.
But as long we are kept away from a herbs and mushrooms (the magic ones) then ... well, we miss out a lot even if all Roads in a Time are in same length
24 May 2017 23:02
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's post.
As long inhabitants of this Earth understand most elementary, that "Gods" are NOT a God,
then all is Good
then all is Good
24 May 2017 22:57
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Mattson's post.
Kui me nüüd päriselt tahaks aga aidata siin olukorda, siis peaksime kõvasti peale maksma ja välja aitama Võruma Pruulikoja, et nad selle vee saaksid siis sinna demostratiivselt saata:
https://lounaeestlane.ee/kae-nalja-vorumaa-pruulikoda-toi-turule-joogivee-jevgeni/
Kui mulliseeritud varjanti pole, siis selle 35 tuhat võib ka allhankega mujlat võtta, kuid see kogu nali oleks Nalja väärt, et peale kasvõi maksta,
kuigi kasu tuleb kuhjaga. Rohkem kui tavatuntule tuleks.
Eelista ikka Eestimaist ja ära välja end müü sõnum saaks korralikult kaetud.
https://lounaeestlane.ee/kae-nalja-vorumaa-pruulikoda-toi-turule-joogivee-jevgeni/
Kui mulliseeritud varjanti pole, siis selle 35 tuhat võib ka allhankega mujlat võtta, kuid see kogu nali oleks Nalja väärt, et peale kasvõi maksta,
kuigi kasu tuleb kuhjaga. Rohkem kui tavatuntule tuleks.
Eelista ikka Eestimaist ja ära välja end müü sõnum saaks korralikult kaetud.
23 May 2017 22:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui me nüüd päriselt tahaks aga aidata siin olukorda, siis peaksime kõvasti peale maksma ja välja aitama Võruma Pruulikoja, et nad selle vee saaksid siis sinna demostratiivselt saata:
https://lounaeestlane.ee/kae-nalja-vorumaa-pruulikoda-toi-turule-joogivee-jevgeni/
Kui mulliseeritud varjanti pole, siis selle 35 tuhat võib ka allhankega mujlat võtta, kuid see kogu nali oleks Nalja väärt, et peale kasvõi maksta,
kuigi kasu tuleb kuhjaga. Rohkem kui tavatuntule tuleks.
Eelista ikka Eestimaist ja ära välja end müü sõnum saaks korralikult kaetud.
https://lounaeestlane.ee/kae-nalja-vorumaa-pruulikoda-toi-turule-joogivee-jevgeni/
Kui mulliseeritud varjanti pole, siis selle 35 tuhat võib ka allhankega mujlat võtta, kuid see kogu nali oleks Nalja väärt, et peale kasvõi maksta,
kuigi kasu tuleb kuhjaga. Rohkem kui tavatuntule tuleks.
Eelista ikka Eestimaist ja ära välja end müü sõnum saaks korralikult kaetud.
23 May 2017 22:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But just as an art and originality and beauty , something out of France Culture i can appreciate truthfully finally.
23 May 2017 22:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"something had changed"
23 May 2017 22:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Just when You think that when someone made Primer with a few thousand dollars was achievement, then them come out with this plus few more new original and unknown movie features from visual to psychological
or even by some,
considering magical
(//)(noparanoia, just can people from lower screen walk in to you (walk out from a screen in To You, while You focus is on upper level with needed attention to access by the ones who are in great knowings of future eye/video/image/consciousness possible technology ends ))
or even by some,
considering magical
(//)(noparanoia, just can people from lower screen walk in to you (walk out from a screen in To You, while You focus is on upper level with needed attention to access by the ones who are in great knowings of future eye/video/image/consciousness possible technology ends ))
23 May 2017 22:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Remember You Not need anything that requires entering in to your blood directly (by breaking mostly self healing skin
blood taking is already on the border
blood taking is already on the border
23 May 2017 21:58
Margus Meigo replied to Igor Taro's comment.
Nu ega nadsiis ometi välismaa vett sääl pakkuma hakka.. ega ju... kes iganes pakub
23 May 2017 21:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja pealegi see kuute ria kõlab väga pahasti, vaimunõustajal jäi ülevaatamata.
23 May 2017 21:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
huvitav matemaatika ülesanne ka lisatud kjuurde:
"hankida umbes 33 333 pudelit karboniseeritud ning 66 666 pudelit karboniseerimata vett. 65 000 pudelit peavad olema 0,33-liitrised ning 35 000 0,75-liitrised."
"hankida umbes 33 333 pudelit karboniseeritud ning 66 666 pudelit karboniseerimata vett. 65 000 pudelit peavad olema 0,33-liitrised ning 35 000 0,75-liitrised."
23 May 2017 21:09
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Mattson's post.
Õige teguviis,
"Ask what You can do For your country"
Miks peaks Riik maksma, kui teised kasu lõikavad. Tark otsus. Kui sellega libedale teele ei minda, eriti külmadel aegadel. Siis võimalik libastuda ka kergesti.
Kuid meil tark riik, sõprusuhete loomiseks
"Ask what You can do For your country"
Miks peaks Riik maksma, kui teised kasu lõikavad. Tark otsus. Kui sellega libedale teele ei minda, eriti külmadel aegadel. Siis võimalik libastuda ka kergesti.
Kuid meil tark riik, sõprusuhete loomiseks
23 May 2017 21:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
As This Tag was shared by me in more then 5 groups, and now this #JewCommunist tag does not give any result,
well, think Yourself what that might mean
Efficient
well, think Yourself what that might mean
Efficient
23 May 2017 20:35
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
(of my est. sentence)
23 May 2017 20:21
Margus Meigo replied to Kevin Gehon-Esquire's comment.
and Please, try not to be coward by blocking your profile and deleting Your comments as most of this kind
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/2017/05/fake-communists-fake-jew-s.html
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/2017/05/fake-communists-fake-jew-s.html
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/2017/05/fake-communists-fake-jew-s.html
22 May 2017 04:08
Margus Meigo replied to Kevin Gehon-Esquire's comment.
You see You low level?
Many things are so high level first of all, that it CAN NOT BE found from books, you n00b,
also, hiding your ignorance behind "i do not bother to listen youtbe videos" is like nearly deeply extreme ignorance,
specially as clearly You not understand even it seems, what kind of school this man is from in video, and to call this what he is as You did, clearly shows your lack of "Jewishness"
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adopted at best
Jews are genetically and spiritually more intelligent then this what You radiate, so please, come back when You dare to admit who You really are and what is Your plan what happens when You die or enter to a new life.
Oh, share some these good Jewish education books You read about reality of a world and about Jews/ Jewisness?
Many things are so high level first of all, that it CAN NOT BE found from books, you n00b,
also, hiding your ignorance behind "i do not bother to listen youtbe videos" is like nearly deeply extreme ignorance,
specially as clearly You not understand even it seems, what kind of school this man is from in video, and to call this what he is as You did, clearly shows your lack of "Jewishness"
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adopted at best
Jews are genetically and spiritually more intelligent then this what You radiate, so please, come back when You dare to admit who You really are and what is Your plan what happens when You die or enter to a new life.
Oh, share some these good Jewish education books You read about reality of a world and about Jews/ Jewisness?
22 May 2017 04:06
Margus Meigo replied to Kevin Gehon-Esquire's comment.
i know you got help from videos, this is why this was sent to You .
All of You kind usually run away after they see that in here their fake propaganda does not work,
i told You to focus on videos, talk about that, lets not talk about what i say, focus on this respected Jew Elder,
who is direct descendant from people of Bible, so You know.,
But thing is that it had not much to do what i say.,. it is that You are not programmed to have answers for these kind of real questions and talks ,
But even Your shouting is potential, and actually good try on my eyes, sweet really, that You even dare to come to express Your feelings, how ever it comes out, at least something,
Spiritually we assume what You actually want to say between the llines
All of You kind usually run away after they see that in here their fake propaganda does not work,
i told You to focus on videos, talk about that, lets not talk about what i say, focus on this respected Jew Elder,
who is direct descendant from people of Bible, so You know.,
But thing is that it had not much to do what i say.,. it is that You are not programmed to have answers for these kind of real questions and talks ,
But even Your shouting is potential, and actually good try on my eyes, sweet really, that You even dare to come to express Your feelings, how ever it comes out, at least something,
Spiritually we assume what You actually want to say between the llines
22 May 2017 03:57
Margus Meigo replied to Kevin Gehon-Esquire's comment.
Do You think Jew-isness is related to religion or to a heritage ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKBeuiXQf3E
or as it is to long, here is short 4 minute one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tyLWjbbuM4
if You so Jewish family person, can handle this ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKBeuiXQf3E
or as it is to long, here is short 4 minute one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tyLWjbbuM4
if You so Jewish family person, can handle this ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKBeuiXQf3E
22 May 2017 03:44
Margus Meigo replied to Kevin Gehon-Esquire's comment.
Kevin N Krispy @my family is jewsih@
REally, and they grow up brat like You?
If They so Jewish give me their contact?
oh.. i forget.. fake communists are in conflict usually with a parents and shame to share their true Jewish roots if they happen to have some lost ones,
Clearly You no Jew level jet, perhaps adopted?
I mean, how can You be a Jew if You not have any idea about what makes Jew a Jew , what is a Jew, What is God and top of that not even know that Communist agenda was "is" atheistic related to pentagram, but Jewish agenda is to eliminate all ignorance in Earth about silly simple questions "if there is " and focus to what we Will do in here where is.
REally, and they grow up brat like You?
If They so Jewish give me their contact?
oh.. i forget.. fake communists are in conflict usually with a parents and shame to share their true Jewish roots if they happen to have some lost ones,
Clearly You no Jew level jet, perhaps adopted?
I mean, how can You be a Jew if You not have any idea about what makes Jew a Jew , what is a Jew, What is God and top of that not even know that Communist agenda was "is" atheistic related to pentagram, but Jewish agenda is to eliminate all ignorance in Earth about silly simple questions "if there is " and focus to what we Will do in here where is.
22 May 2017 03:39
Margus Meigo replied to Kevin Gehon-Esquire's comment.
So You try to say, You roots are not in Roman Empire, among with destroyers of everything Jewish ?
And this what You say as a infant about Our maker, is deeply insulting, making you inhuman and worthless garbage in any proper Jew eyes, also nearly all Muslim and in true understanding native people eyes,
Christians are forgiving, even for YOU kind, lucky you, ... this is why forces are kept to keep the pentagram alive, as we believe we can cure You out from it instead of unplugging.
And this what You say as a infant about Our maker, is deeply insulting, making you inhuman and worthless garbage in any proper Jew eyes, also nearly all Muslim and in true understanding native people eyes,
Christians are forgiving, even for YOU kind, lucky you, ... this is why forces are kept to keep the pentagram alive, as we believe we can cure You out from it instead of unplugging.
22 May 2017 03:24
Margus Meigo replied to Kevin Gehon-Esquire's comment.
are you anti-Semitic communist as communist truly really are
(besides the Jews who made it, for a reason to sink it perhaps ?)
I understand it is hard for You mind and confusing to understand, why would Jews do this kind of thing to atheists and to them self,
but when You become older emotionally, not focusing on violence what you like to spread against victims, then You can see clearer,
SPECIALLY if you take a meds, a psychedelic meds,
(besides the Jews who made it, for a reason to sink it perhaps ?)
I understand it is hard for You mind and confusing to understand, why would Jews do this kind of thing to atheists and to them self,
but when You become older emotionally, not focusing on violence what you like to spread against victims, then You can see clearer,
SPECIALLY if you take a meds, a psychedelic meds,
22 May 2017 03:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
people are in discovery, just with few :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX8V4LzlXuQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX8V4LzlXuQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX8V4LzlXuQ
22 May 2017 03:05
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
how is the English version looking a like ?
22 May 2017 02:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
seega kui koerte kloonimise ja taimede aretamise tipp oli alati kellegile teada, siis mõelda jääb vaid, //
// poolik
// testiks ka kysimuste valmimise tarvis noile kes selle paraleel kogu asja kõiges olemise uskujatele
// poolik
// testiks ka kysimuste valmimise tarvis noile kes selle paraleel kogu asja kõiges olemise uskujatele
22 May 2017 01:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mõte oli väiksema osa osas, kui pentagram oleks sumeri väiksem osa olnud,
tava opppe näide
// niitide näide
tava opppe näide
// niitide näide
22 May 2017 01:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
pentemychos
Cronus (or Zeus in the more popularly known version) orders the offspring out from the cosmos to Tartaros. There they are kept behind locked gates, fashioned in iron (associated with Zeus and his element of sky/space) and bronze (by Poseidon—the water force). We are told about chaotic beings put into the pentemychos, and we are told that the Darkness has an offspring that is cast into the recesses of Tartaros. No surviving fragment makes the connection, but it is possible that the prison-house in Tartaros and the pentemychos are ways of referring to the essentially same thing. According to Celsus, Pherecydes said that: "Below that portion is the portion of Tartaros; the daughters of Boreas [the north wind], the Harpies and Thuella [Storm], guard it; there Zeus banished any of the gods whenever one behaves with insolence."[17] Thus the identity between Zeus' prison-house and the pentemychos seems likely.
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Pherecydes' "Pentemychos" was thought to have contained a mystical esoteric teaching, treated allegorically. One ancient commentator said that:
Also, Pherecydes, the man of Syros, talks of recesses and pits and caves and doors and gates, and through these speaks in riddles of becomings and deceases of souls.[23]
A comparatively large number of sources say Pherecydes was the first to teach the eternality and transmigration (metempsychosis) of human souls.[24] Both Cicero and Augustine thought of him having given the first teaching of the "immortality of the soul".[25] It is not surprising that some considered Pherecydes to have been the teacher of Pythagoras.[26] That he was the first to teach such a thing is doubtful, but that he was among the first and that he did profess this teaching is certain. Hermann S. Schibli concludes that Pherecydes "included in his book ["Pentemychos"] at least a rudimentary treatment of the immortality of the soul, its wanderings in the underworld, and the reasons for the soul’s incarnations".[27]
Pherecydes was occasionally counted among the Seven Sages of Greece.[28] A sun-dial (heliotropion), supposedly made by Pherecydes, was said by Diogenes Laërtius to be "preserved on the island of Syros."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pherecydes_of_Syros#Reconstruction
Cronus (or Zeus in the more popularly known version) orders the offspring out from the cosmos to Tartaros. There they are kept behind locked gates, fashioned in iron (associated with Zeus and his element of sky/space) and bronze (by Poseidon—the water force). We are told about chaotic beings put into the pentemychos, and we are told that the Darkness has an offspring that is cast into the recesses of Tartaros. No surviving fragment makes the connection, but it is possible that the prison-house in Tartaros and the pentemychos are ways of referring to the essentially same thing. According to Celsus, Pherecydes said that: "Below that portion is the portion of Tartaros; the daughters of Boreas [the north wind], the Harpies and Thuella [Storm], guard it; there Zeus banished any of the gods whenever one behaves with insolence."[17] Thus the identity between Zeus' prison-house and the pentemychos seems likely.
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Pherecydes' "Pentemychos" was thought to have contained a mystical esoteric teaching, treated allegorically. One ancient commentator said that:
Also, Pherecydes, the man of Syros, talks of recesses and pits and caves and doors and gates, and through these speaks in riddles of becomings and deceases of souls.[23]
A comparatively large number of sources say Pherecydes was the first to teach the eternality and transmigration (metempsychosis) of human souls.[24] Both Cicero and Augustine thought of him having given the first teaching of the "immortality of the soul".[25] It is not surprising that some considered Pherecydes to have been the teacher of Pythagoras.[26] That he was the first to teach such a thing is doubtful, but that he was among the first and that he did profess this teaching is certain. Hermann S. Schibli concludes that Pherecydes "included in his book ["Pentemychos"] at least a rudimentary treatment of the immortality of the soul, its wanderings in the underworld, and the reasons for the soul’s incarnations".[27]
Pherecydes was occasionally counted among the Seven Sages of Greece.[28] A sun-dial (heliotropion), supposedly made by Pherecydes, was said by Diogenes Laërtius to be "preserved on the island of Syros."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pherecydes_of_Syros#Reconstruction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pherecydes_of_Syros#Reconstruction
22 May 2017 01:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
back to track
"Pherecydes taught his philosophy through the medium of mythic representations. Although it is lost, the fragments that survive are enough to reconstruct a basic outline.
In the older cosmogony of Hesiod (8th–7th century BC) the initial state of the universe is Chaos, a dark void considered as a divine primordial condition and the creation is ex nihilo (out of nothing). Pherecydes probably interpreted chaos as water and he does not place it at the very beginning. In his cosmogony there are three divine principles, Zas (Ζάς, Zeus), Cthonie (Χθονίη, Earth) and Chronos (Χρόνος, Time) who always existed.
The semen (seeds) of Chronos which can probably be considered as a watery chaos was placed in the recesses and composed numerous other offsprings of gods.[15] This is described in a fragment preserved in Damascius' On First Principles.
A close relationship is thought to exist between these recesses and Chthonie. Hesiod described Tartaros as being "in a recess (muchos) of broad-wayed earth".[16] Hermann S. Schibli thinks the five muchos were actually harboured within Chthonie, or at least were so initially when Chronos disposed his seed in the five "nooks".[17]
Alongside Chthonie and Chronos, Pherecydes held a power called Zas. Zas (Zeus), comparable with the Orphic Eros in function, and as such a personification of masculine (sexual) creativity. Proclus said that "Pherecydes used to say that Zeus changed into Eros when about to create, for the reason that, having created the world from opposites, he led it into agreement and peace and sowed sameness in all things, and unity that interpenetrates the universe".[18]
The act of creation itself (perhaps it is more accurate to say that Chronos creates and that Zas orders and distributes) is described mytho-poetically as Zas making a cloth on which he decorates earth and sea, and which he then presents as a wedding gift to Chthonie, and wraps around her. Yet, in another fragment it is not Chthonie, but "a winged oak" that he wraps the cloth around.[19] The "winged oak" in this cosmology has no precedent in Greek tradition.[20]
The stories are different but not mutually exclusive, because much is lacking in the fragments, but it seems clear that creation is hindered by chaotic forces. "
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Before the world is ordered a cosmic battle takes place, with Cronus as the head of one side and Ophioneus as the leader of the other.[21] The same story is elsewhere enacted with Zeus and Typhon/Typhoeus as leading characters, and it also has close parallels in many myths from cultures other than the Greek (Marduk vs. Tiamat, etc.). Ophioneus and its brood are often depicted as ruling the birthing cosmos for some time, before falling from power. The chaotic forces are eternal and cannot be destroyed; instead they are thrown out from the ordered world and locked away in Tartaros in a kind of "appointment of the spheres", in which the victor (Zeus-Cronus) takes possession of the sky and of space and time.[22] The locks to Tartaros are fashioned in iron by Zeus, and might hence have been associated with his element of aither, and in bronze by Poseidon, which might indicate a link to water (which was often conceived of as the "first matter"). Judging from some ancient fragments Ophioneus is thrown into Okeanos, not into Tartaros.
Exactly what entities or forces that were locked away in Pherecydes’ story cannot be known for sure. There may have been five principal figures. Ophioneus and Typhon are one and the same, and Eurynome fought on the side of Ophioneus against Cronus.[21] Chthonie is a principal "thing" of the underworld, but whether she is to be counted as one of the five or the five "sum-total" is an open question. Apart from these it is known that Ophioneus-Typhon mated with Echidna, and that Echidna herself was somehow mysteriously "produced" by Callirhoe. If Pherecydes counted five principal entities in association the pentemychos doctrine, then Ophioneus, Eurynome, Echidna, Calirrhoe and Chthonie are the main contenders.
"Pherecydes taught his philosophy through the medium of mythic representations. Although it is lost, the fragments that survive are enough to reconstruct a basic outline.
In the older cosmogony of Hesiod (8th–7th century BC) the initial state of the universe is Chaos, a dark void considered as a divine primordial condition and the creation is ex nihilo (out of nothing). Pherecydes probably interpreted chaos as water and he does not place it at the very beginning. In his cosmogony there are three divine principles, Zas (Ζάς, Zeus), Cthonie (Χθονίη, Earth) and Chronos (Χρόνος, Time) who always existed.
The semen (seeds) of Chronos which can probably be considered as a watery chaos was placed in the recesses and composed numerous other offsprings of gods.[15] This is described in a fragment preserved in Damascius' On First Principles.
A close relationship is thought to exist between these recesses and Chthonie. Hesiod described Tartaros as being "in a recess (muchos) of broad-wayed earth".[16] Hermann S. Schibli thinks the five muchos were actually harboured within Chthonie, or at least were so initially when Chronos disposed his seed in the five "nooks".[17]
Alongside Chthonie and Chronos, Pherecydes held a power called Zas. Zas (Zeus), comparable with the Orphic Eros in function, and as such a personification of masculine (sexual) creativity. Proclus said that "Pherecydes used to say that Zeus changed into Eros when about to create, for the reason that, having created the world from opposites, he led it into agreement and peace and sowed sameness in all things, and unity that interpenetrates the universe".[18]
The act of creation itself (perhaps it is more accurate to say that Chronos creates and that Zas orders and distributes) is described mytho-poetically as Zas making a cloth on which he decorates earth and sea, and which he then presents as a wedding gift to Chthonie, and wraps around her. Yet, in another fragment it is not Chthonie, but "a winged oak" that he wraps the cloth around.[19] The "winged oak" in this cosmology has no precedent in Greek tradition.[20]
The stories are different but not mutually exclusive, because much is lacking in the fragments, but it seems clear that creation is hindered by chaotic forces. "
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Before the world is ordered a cosmic battle takes place, with Cronus as the head of one side and Ophioneus as the leader of the other.[21] The same story is elsewhere enacted with Zeus and Typhon/Typhoeus as leading characters, and it also has close parallels in many myths from cultures other than the Greek (Marduk vs. Tiamat, etc.). Ophioneus and its brood are often depicted as ruling the birthing cosmos for some time, before falling from power. The chaotic forces are eternal and cannot be destroyed; instead they are thrown out from the ordered world and locked away in Tartaros in a kind of "appointment of the spheres", in which the victor (Zeus-Cronus) takes possession of the sky and of space and time.[22] The locks to Tartaros are fashioned in iron by Zeus, and might hence have been associated with his element of aither, and in bronze by Poseidon, which might indicate a link to water (which was often conceived of as the "first matter"). Judging from some ancient fragments Ophioneus is thrown into Okeanos, not into Tartaros.
Exactly what entities or forces that were locked away in Pherecydes’ story cannot be known for sure. There may have been five principal figures. Ophioneus and Typhon are one and the same, and Eurynome fought on the side of Ophioneus against Cronus.[21] Chthonie is a principal "thing" of the underworld, but whether she is to be counted as one of the five or the five "sum-total" is an open question. Apart from these it is known that Ophioneus-Typhon mated with Echidna, and that Echidna herself was somehow mysteriously "produced" by Callirhoe. If Pherecydes counted five principal entities in association the pentemychos doctrine, then Ophioneus, Eurynome, Echidna, Calirrhoe and Chthonie are the main contenders.
22 May 2017 01:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// no realations to //
draft
draft
22 May 2017 01:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eastern stary kest kysida mis ta Eliphas Levi sotsalistlikutest ideedest arvavad.
(heatahtlik konflikt)
(heatahtlik konflikt)
22 May 2017 01:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
still on Great dodecahemicosahedron and on Dodecadodecahedron, /( the Great dirhombicosidodecahedron looks already monsterious)
but about usa..
"A self-intersecting regular pentagon (or star pentagon) is called a pentagram."
www.software3d.com/MillersMonster.php
Tec:
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GreatDirhombicosidodecahedron.html
but about usa..
"A self-intersecting regular pentagon (or star pentagon) is called a pentagram."
www.software3d.com/MillersMonster.php
Tec:
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GreatDirhombicosidodecahedron.html
http://www.software3d.com/MillersMonster.php
22 May 2017 00:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
22 May 2017 00:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But Yes well,
Seems not so far still no need to go:
https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-cuneiform-script-logogram-UB-look-like
Seems not so far still no need to go:
https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-cuneiform-script-logogram-UB-look-like
https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-cuneiform-script-logogram-UB-look-like
22 May 2017 00:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More in direction of Matriarchy
22 May 2017 00:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The U.S. is the only country that has a government-specific top-level domain in addition to its country-code top-level domain. This is a result of the origins of the Internet as a U.S. federal government-sponsored research network. Other countries typically delegate a second-level domain for this purpose, for example: .gc.ca is the second-level domain for the Government of Canada and all subdomains."
Metadata :
Past projects:
(they usually only help someone to sponsor this what they need to get done)
"United States Newspaper Project, an effort to catalog and microfilm 63.3 million pages of newspapers dating from the early Republic. The program is now digitizing newspapers and making them freely available online as part of Chronicling America."
( also What's on the Menu, digitization and community-sourced transcription of New York Public Library's historic restaurant menu collection )
...
"EDSITEment is a partnership between the National Endowment for the Humanities and the National Trust for the Humanities.
EDSITEment offers a treasure trove for teachers, students, and parents searching for high-quality material on the Internet in the subject areas of literature and language arts, foreign languages, art and culture, and history and social studies.
All websites linked to EDSITEment have been reviewed for content, design, and educational impact... "
....
"The ninth NEH Chair was Jim Leach. President Obama nominated the former Iowa congressman, a Republican, to chair the NEH on June 3, 2009 "
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"Democrats are claiming a huge victory for the arts. They successfully blocked Trump’s request to cut funding to the National Endowments for the Arts and Humanities. Instead both agencies would see a funding increase of $2 million under this spending bill, bringing each budget to $150 million for fiscal 2017."
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"The NEH was initially skeptical of the creation of local programming entities on the model of the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), which, by 1969, had created state-based arts agencies in every state.[4] However, under pressure from Congress and especially Sen. Claiborne Pell, the NEH began to experiment with the creation of non-governmental state-based committees in 1971. The initial mission of these committees was to facilitate conversation about public policy. Responding to further pressure from Congress to transform the committees into state agencies, as the NEA had done, the NEH instead began working to increase the committees' autonomy. By 1980, the committees' programming agendas had been greatly broadened and the NEH had begun to refer to them as "state humanities councils."[6] The Federation of State Humanities Councils was founded in 1977 as a membership organization for the state councils."
Metadata :
Past projects:
(they usually only help someone to sponsor this what they need to get done)
"United States Newspaper Project, an effort to catalog and microfilm 63.3 million pages of newspapers dating from the early Republic. The program is now digitizing newspapers and making them freely available online as part of Chronicling America."
( also What's on the Menu, digitization and community-sourced transcription of New York Public Library's historic restaurant menu collection )
...
"EDSITEment is a partnership between the National Endowment for the Humanities and the National Trust for the Humanities.
EDSITEment offers a treasure trove for teachers, students, and parents searching for high-quality material on the Internet in the subject areas of literature and language arts, foreign languages, art and culture, and history and social studies.
All websites linked to EDSITEment have been reviewed for content, design, and educational impact... "
....
"The ninth NEH Chair was Jim Leach. President Obama nominated the former Iowa congressman, a Republican, to chair the NEH on June 3, 2009 "
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"Democrats are claiming a huge victory for the arts. They successfully blocked Trump’s request to cut funding to the National Endowments for the Arts and Humanities. Instead both agencies would see a funding increase of $2 million under this spending bill, bringing each budget to $150 million for fiscal 2017."
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"The NEH was initially skeptical of the creation of local programming entities on the model of the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), which, by 1969, had created state-based arts agencies in every state.[4] However, under pressure from Congress and especially Sen. Claiborne Pell, the NEH began to experiment with the creation of non-governmental state-based committees in 1971. The initial mission of these committees was to facilitate conversation about public policy. Responding to further pressure from Congress to transform the committees into state agencies, as the NEA had done, the NEH instead began working to increase the committees' autonomy. By 1980, the committees' programming agendas had been greatly broadened and the NEH had begun to refer to them as "state humanities councils."[6] The Federation of State Humanities Councils was founded in 1977 as a membership organization for the state councils."
22 May 2017 00:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
from "neh.gov"
"The earliest writing systems evolved independently and at roughly the same time in Egypt and Mesopotamia, but current scholarship suggests that Mesopotamia’s writing appeared first. That writing system, invented by the Sumerians, emerged in Mesopotamia around 3500 BCE. At first, this writing was representational: a bull might be represented by a picture of a bull, and a pictograph of barley signified the word barley. Though writing began as pictures .."
https://edsitement.neh.gov/lesson-plan/cuneiform-writing-system-ancient-mesopotamia-emergence-and-evolution
// so .. when first most likely things represented this what is most meaningful and exact with minimum effort (what is needed for that importance)
So the pentagram, was expressed in words as: a small room, pitfall.. (maybe also corner, angle, nook; cavity, hole...) so CLEARLY not a words to express thoughts about "stars of the sky and large cosmos)
Well, and as the same people who r //finish later
//finish later// amazement are under pentagram from Sumerian point of view?
"The earliest writing systems evolved independently and at roughly the same time in Egypt and Mesopotamia, but current scholarship suggests that Mesopotamia’s writing appeared first. That writing system, invented by the Sumerians, emerged in Mesopotamia around 3500 BCE. At first, this writing was representational: a bull might be represented by a picture of a bull, and a pictograph of barley signified the word barley. Though writing began as pictures .."
https://edsitement.neh.gov/lesson-plan/cuneiform-writing-system-ancient-mesopotamia-emergence-and-evolution
// so .. when first most likely things represented this what is most meaningful and exact with minimum effort (what is needed for that importance)
So the pentagram, was expressed in words as: a small room, pitfall.. (maybe also corner, angle, nook; cavity, hole...) so CLEARLY not a words to express thoughts about "stars of the sky and large cosmos)
Well, and as the same people who r //finish later
//finish later// amazement are under pentagram from Sumerian point of view?
http://neh.gov/
21 May 2017 23:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vabandust, mitte sina lugeja, vaid 𒌒, Ub, glyph
SUMERIA Keelest,
( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuneiform_script )
SUMERIA Keelest,
( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuneiform_script )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuneiform_script
21 May 2017 22:51
Margus Meigo commented on Claire Khaw's post.
Group: Patriarchy v Matriarchy
just i am complete oppose to accepting anything less then understanding complete agreement to Supremacy of One women to be more then man, or even entire patriarchy who is in wrong side with anything that is opposite to good
so in shorter: Matriarchy is a pillow and patriarchy a needle
(and no man has a more worth then a woman any other time then decided by the womans )
in that aria, related to matriarchy is , understanding like that,
but this is the reason why beard is dangerous for a man who shaves head like wiking,
They access deep truths and then still tie them in to the opposite, to their old master from who they them self try to escape from actually..
but turn away from hands who have hold them,
hands who know what kind of human slicer can come from it,
as it was not made in ways that is natural.
But love is unancountable, there is more jet bigger forces holding in agreemet high level femine force to hold back and suffer the SUM of wrongdoings as the hurters "almoust get it "
so they hold back many levels of orders, clearly up to the womens behind a screen" the next nearest level out of this world that is in direct management of an Woman
//So, few levels down from master soul energy body in where hair is a lot.21 May 2017 02:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Patriarchy v Matriarchy
for as much i have seen21 May 2017 01:43
Margus Meigo commented on Claire Khaw's post.
Group: Patriarchy v Matriarchy
Brilliant!21 May 2017 01:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
under God i meant to write "Torah"
rest is meta in what knowledge beta
___
okey my text will go owery my own head at times like this,
but the short point of explain long, is
that people would see word connection to the point of what this word actually means from Their (a words point of view)
___
as basic understanding, that there is a communists, atheists, (anarchists, they also can be Believers actually),
.... and many others but Jew_ish is ABOVE them all almost Always almost by anyone for sure, as starting ground,
and from there start to compare,
ARE YOU THE better server of a God In Amounts that will be sure more deeper then average for who knowing that They are ACTUALLY, the Only True God, Chosen people who no one else can be or become besides the ones who are and will be.
So,
When You think You will be better, worthy in for doing world a favor and serving God needs better in so large amounts that this will be more in Your (team) work (surpasses) then average Jewish person...
then sure,
rest is meta in what knowledge beta
___
okey my text will go owery my own head at times like this,
but the short point of explain long, is
that people would see word connection to the point of what this word actually means from Their (a words point of view)
___
as basic understanding, that there is a communists, atheists, (anarchists, they also can be Believers actually),
.... and many others but Jew_ish is ABOVE them all almost Always almost by anyone for sure, as starting ground,
and from there start to compare,
ARE YOU THE better server of a God In Amounts that will be sure more deeper then average for who knowing that They are ACTUALLY, the Only True God, Chosen people who no one else can be or become besides the ones who are and will be.
So,
When You think You will be better, worthy in for doing world a favor and serving God needs better in so large amounts that this will be more in Your (team) work (surpasses) then average Jewish person...
then sure,
21 May 2017 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You, try to figure out, what way it will be
without commasand ...
without commasand ...
21 May 2017 01:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Screenshoot:
21 May 2017 01:10
Margus Meigo commented on Duke Worthington's post.
Group: Protest Against Mainstream Media Nomination Challenge
Well, they now campaign i heard, to lose a age limit, using psychiatry association for that19 May 2017 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140603-brain-zapping-the-future-of-war
The Wright-Patterson base is rich in aviation history. In and around this area, Wilbur and Orville Wright conducted pioneering experiments into flight. What they helped to start continues here, at the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL). Now the AFRL includes the 711th Human Performance Wing, whose mission is to “advance human performance in air, space and cyberspace”.
The aim of the trial today is to investigate whether stimulating the brain with a mild electrical current can improve the performance of military personnel. Will it work?
Trans-cranial direct current stimulation (tDCS) has been investigated as a possible treatment in healthcare for decades. In the 1980s, for example, it became clear that applying mild electrical currents to the brain could help patients with severe depression for whom the drugs did nothing.
Yet it wasn’t until the 2000s that neuroscientists realised tDCS could change the brain functioning of healthy people – a discovery that got the military interested.
“We began noticing a lot of the medical literature suggesting that cognitive functioning could be enhanced,” says Andy McKinley, the US military’s principal in-house tDCS researcher, who is now conducting trials. “We began thinking: if it could help with those healthy participants, it could potentially be an intervention tool we could use here in the military to help advance cognitive function.”
TDCS is not the only brain stimulation tool that he finds interesting. As well as ongoing work into magnetic stimulation, other teams are looking at ultrasound and even laser light, as well as different forms of electrical stimulation, using alternating current, for example. McKinley is about to start looking at ultrasound too, and he’s interested in how alternating current can influence brainwaves. But while he says he’s agnostic about what type of stimulation might turn out to be best for cognitive enhancement, tDCS has some advantages. For a start, unlike ultrasound or magnetism, electricity is a natural part of brain-cell communication, and it’s cheap and portable. He thinks tDCS is the best bet for a wearable brain-stimulating device.
The Wright-Patterson base is rich in aviation history. In and around this area, Wilbur and Orville Wright conducted pioneering experiments into flight. What they helped to start continues here, at the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL). Now the AFRL includes the 711th Human Performance Wing, whose mission is to “advance human performance in air, space and cyberspace”.
The aim of the trial today is to investigate whether stimulating the brain with a mild electrical current can improve the performance of military personnel. Will it work?
Trans-cranial direct current stimulation (tDCS) has been investigated as a possible treatment in healthcare for decades. In the 1980s, for example, it became clear that applying mild electrical currents to the brain could help patients with severe depression for whom the drugs did nothing.
Yet it wasn’t until the 2000s that neuroscientists realised tDCS could change the brain functioning of healthy people – a discovery that got the military interested.
“We began noticing a lot of the medical literature suggesting that cognitive functioning could be enhanced,” says Andy McKinley, the US military’s principal in-house tDCS researcher, who is now conducting trials. “We began thinking: if it could help with those healthy participants, it could potentially be an intervention tool we could use here in the military to help advance cognitive function.”
TDCS is not the only brain stimulation tool that he finds interesting. As well as ongoing work into magnetic stimulation, other teams are looking at ultrasound and even laser light, as well as different forms of electrical stimulation, using alternating current, for example. McKinley is about to start looking at ultrasound too, and he’s interested in how alternating current can influence brainwaves. But while he says he’s agnostic about what type of stimulation might turn out to be best for cognitive enhancement, tDCS has some advantages. For a start, unlike ultrasound or magnetism, electricity is a natural part of brain-cell communication, and it’s cheap and portable. He thinks tDCS is the best bet for a wearable brain-stimulating device.
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140603-brain-zapping-the-future-of-war
19 May 2017 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://carthera.eu/sono-cloud/for-a-selective-brain-therapy/
SonoCloud
Low Intensity Contact Ultrasound Implant
SonoCloud
Low Intensity Contact Ultrasound Implant
http://carthera.eu/sono-cloud/for-a-selective-brain-therapy/
19 May 2017 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Th miniature wireless sensor the size of a speck of dust is powered by ultrasound (Photo: Berkeley)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/scientists-create-dust-sized-sensor-8560708
Scientists create dust-sized sensor that can be implanted in human brain and used to control prosthetic limbs
The wireless, battery-less implantable sensors measure just 3mm long and 1mm wide
If these tiny wireless sensors can be successfully developed for humans, dozens to a hundred of them could be sealed inside the body, avoiding infection and unwanted movement of the electrodes.
–
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/scientists-create-dust-sized-sensor-8560708
Scientists create dust-sized sensor that can be implanted in human brain and used to control prosthetic limbs
The wireless, battery-less implantable sensors measure just 3mm long and 1mm wide
If these tiny wireless sensors can be successfully developed for humans, dozens to a hundred of them could be sealed inside the body, avoiding infection and unwanted movement of the electrodes.
–
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/scientists-create-dust-sized-sensor-8560708
19 May 2017 01:17
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// mainstream
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/sep/15/sonogenetics-allows-brain-cells-to-be-controlled-by-sound-waves
'Sonogenetics' allows brain cells to be controlled by sound waves
Scientists have used genetically modified worms to show that ultrasound can be used to activate brain, heart and muscle cells from outside the body
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/sep/15/sonogenetics-allows-brain-cells-to-be-controlled-by-sound-waves
'Sonogenetics' allows brain cells to be controlled by sound waves
Scientists have used genetically modified worms to show that ultrasound can be used to activate brain, heart and muscle cells from outside the body
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/sep/15/sonogenetics-allows-brain-cells-to-be-controlled-by-sound-waves
19 May 2017 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/why-brain-brain-communication-no-longer-unthinkable-180954948/
Another way to transmit information, called focused ultrasound, appears to be capable of stimulating a region of the brain as small as a grain of rice. While the medical applications for ultrasound, such as imaging and tissue ablation, use high frequencies, from 800 kilohertz up to the megahertz range, a team led by Harvard radiologist Seung-Schik Yoo found that a frequency of 350 kilohertz works well, and apparently safely, to send a signal to the brain of a rat. The signal originated with a human volunteer outfitted with an EEG, which sampled his brainwaves; when he focused on a specific pattern of lights on a computer screen, a computer sent an ultrasound signal to the rat, which moved his tail in response. Yoo says the rat showed no ill effects, but the safety of focused ultrasound on the human brain is unproven. Part of the problem is that, unlike magnetic stimulation, the mechanism by which ultrasound waves—a form of mechanical energy—creates an electric potential isn’t fully understood. One possibility is that it operates indirectly by “popping” open the vesicles, or sacs, within the cells of the brain, flooding them with neurotransmitters, like delivering a shot of dopamine to exactly the right area. Alternatively, the ultrasound could induce cavitation—bubbling—in the cell membrane, changing its electrical properties. Yoo suspects that the brain contains receptors for mechanical stimulation, including ultrasound, which have been largely overlooked by neuroscientists. Such receptors would account for the phenomenon of “seeing stars,” or flashes of light, from a blow to the head, for instance. If focused ultrasound is proven safe, and becomes a feasible approach to a computer-brain interface, it would open up a wide range of unexplored—in fact, barely imagined—possibilities.
Direct verbal communication between individuals—a more sophisticated version of Rao’s experiment, with two connected people exchanging explicit statements just by thinking them—is the most obvious application, but it’s not clear that a species possessing language needs a more technologically advanced way to say “I’m running late,” or even “I love you.” John Trimper, an Emory University doctoral candidate in psychology, who has written about the ethical implications of brain-to-brain interfaces, speculates that the technology, “especially through wireless transmissions, could eventually allow soldiers or police—or criminals—to communicate silently and covertly during operations.” That would be in the distant future. So far, the most content-rich message sent brain-to-brain between humans traveled from a subject in India to one in Strasbourg, France. The first message, laboriously encoded and decoded into binary symbols by a Barcelona-based group, was “hola.” With a more sophisticated interface one can imagine, say, a paralyzed stroke victim communicating to a caregiver—or his dog. Still, if what he’s saying is, “Bring me the newspaper,” there are, or will be soon, speech synthesizers—and robots—that can do that. But what if the person is Stephen Hawking, the great physicist afflicted by ALS, who communicates by using a cheek muscle to type the first letters of a word? The world could surely benefit from a direct channel to his mind.
Maybe we’re still thinking too small. Maybe an analog to natural language isn’t the killer app for a brain-to-brain interface. Instead, it must be something more global, more ambitious—information, skills, even raw sensory input. What if medical students could download a technique directly from the brain of the world’s best surgeon, or if musicians could directly access the memory of a great pianist? “Is there only one way of learning a skill?” Rao muses. “Can there be a shortcut, and is that cheating?” It doesn’t even have to involve another human brain on the other end. It could be an animal—what would it be like to experience the world through smell, like a dog—or by echolocation, like a bat? Or it could be a search engine. “It’s cheating on an exam if you use your smartphone to look things up on the Internet,” Rao says, “but what if you’re already connected to the Internet through your brain?
// Yea, like a shamanism. ...
Another way to transmit information, called focused ultrasound, appears to be capable of stimulating a region of the brain as small as a grain of rice. While the medical applications for ultrasound, such as imaging and tissue ablation, use high frequencies, from 800 kilohertz up to the megahertz range, a team led by Harvard radiologist Seung-Schik Yoo found that a frequency of 350 kilohertz works well, and apparently safely, to send a signal to the brain of a rat. The signal originated with a human volunteer outfitted with an EEG, which sampled his brainwaves; when he focused on a specific pattern of lights on a computer screen, a computer sent an ultrasound signal to the rat, which moved his tail in response. Yoo says the rat showed no ill effects, but the safety of focused ultrasound on the human brain is unproven. Part of the problem is that, unlike magnetic stimulation, the mechanism by which ultrasound waves—a form of mechanical energy—creates an electric potential isn’t fully understood. One possibility is that it operates indirectly by “popping” open the vesicles, or sacs, within the cells of the brain, flooding them with neurotransmitters, like delivering a shot of dopamine to exactly the right area. Alternatively, the ultrasound could induce cavitation—bubbling—in the cell membrane, changing its electrical properties. Yoo suspects that the brain contains receptors for mechanical stimulation, including ultrasound, which have been largely overlooked by neuroscientists. Such receptors would account for the phenomenon of “seeing stars,” or flashes of light, from a blow to the head, for instance. If focused ultrasound is proven safe, and becomes a feasible approach to a computer-brain interface, it would open up a wide range of unexplored—in fact, barely imagined—possibilities.
Direct verbal communication between individuals—a more sophisticated version of Rao’s experiment, with two connected people exchanging explicit statements just by thinking them—is the most obvious application, but it’s not clear that a species possessing language needs a more technologically advanced way to say “I’m running late,” or even “I love you.” John Trimper, an Emory University doctoral candidate in psychology, who has written about the ethical implications of brain-to-brain interfaces, speculates that the technology, “especially through wireless transmissions, could eventually allow soldiers or police—or criminals—to communicate silently and covertly during operations.” That would be in the distant future. So far, the most content-rich message sent brain-to-brain between humans traveled from a subject in India to one in Strasbourg, France. The first message, laboriously encoded and decoded into binary symbols by a Barcelona-based group, was “hola.” With a more sophisticated interface one can imagine, say, a paralyzed stroke victim communicating to a caregiver—or his dog. Still, if what he’s saying is, “Bring me the newspaper,” there are, or will be soon, speech synthesizers—and robots—that can do that. But what if the person is Stephen Hawking, the great physicist afflicted by ALS, who communicates by using a cheek muscle to type the first letters of a word? The world could surely benefit from a direct channel to his mind.
Maybe we’re still thinking too small. Maybe an analog to natural language isn’t the killer app for a brain-to-brain interface. Instead, it must be something more global, more ambitious—information, skills, even raw sensory input. What if medical students could download a technique directly from the brain of the world’s best surgeon, or if musicians could directly access the memory of a great pianist? “Is there only one way of learning a skill?” Rao muses. “Can there be a shortcut, and is that cheating?” It doesn’t even have to involve another human brain on the other end. It could be an animal—what would it be like to experience the world through smell, like a dog—or by echolocation, like a bat? Or it could be a search engine. “It’s cheating on an exam if you use your smartphone to look things up on the Internet,” Rao says, “but what if you’re already connected to the Internet through your brain?
// Yea, like a shamanism. ...
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/why-brain-brain-communication-no-longer-unthinkable-180954948/
19 May 2017 01:16
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Caltech Researchers Receive NIH BRAIN Funding
http://www.caltech.edu/news/caltech-researchers-receive-nih-brain-funding-43895
On September 30, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) announced its first round of funding in furtherance of President Obama's "Brain Research through Advancing Innovative Neurotechnology"—or BRAIN—Initiative. Included among the 58 funded projects—all of which, according to the NIH, are geared toward the development of "new tools and technologies to understand neural circuit function and capture a dynamic view of the brain in action"—are six projects either led or co-led by Caltech researchers.
"Dissecting human brain circuits in vivo using ultrasonic neuromodulation"
Doris Tsao, assistant professor of biology
Mikhail Shapiro, assistant professor of chemical engineering
Tsao and Shapiro are teaming up to develop a new technology that both uses ultrasound to map and determine the function of interconnected brain networks and, ultimately, to change neural activity deep within the brain.
"This would open new horizons for understanding human brain function and connectivity, and create completely new options for the noninvasive treatment of brain diseases such as intractable epilepsy, depression, and Parkinson's disease," Tsao says. "The key," Shapiro adds, "is to gain a precise understanding of the various mechanisms by which sound waves interact with neurons in the brain so we can use ultrasound to produce very specific neurological effects. We will be able to do this across the full spectrum, from molecules up to large model organisms."
"Modular nanophotonic probes for dense neural recording at single-cell resolution"
Michael Roukes, Robert M. Abbey Professor of Physics, Applied Physics, and Bioengineering
Thanos Siapas, professor of computation and neural systems
Roukes, Siapas, and their colleagues at Columbia University and Baylor College of Medicine propose to build ultra-dense arrays of miniature light-emitting and light-sensing probes using advanced silicon "chip" technology that permits their production en masse. These probes open the new field of integrated neurophotonics, Roukes says, and will permit simultaneous recording of the electrical activity of hundreds of thousands to, ultimately, millions of neurons, with single-cell resolution, in any given region of the brain. "The instrumentation we'll develop will enable us to observe the trafficking of information, in vivo, in brain circuits on an unprecedented scale, and to correlate this activity with behavior," he says.
"Time-Reversal Optical Focusing for Noninvasive Optogenetics"
Changhuei Yang, professor of electrical engineering, bioengineering, and medical engineering
Viviana Gradinaru, assistant professor of biology
Deep-brain stimulation has been used successfully for nearly two decades for the treatment of epilepsy, Parkinson's disease, chronic pain, depression, and other disorders. Current systems rely on electrodes implanted deep within the brain to modify the firing pattern of specific clusters of neurons, bringing them back into a more normal pattern. Yang and Gradinaru are working together on a method that would use only light waves to noninvasively activate light-sensitive molecules and precisely guide the firing of nerves. Biological tissues are opaque due to the scattering of light waves, and that scattering makes it impossible to finely focus a laser beam deep into brain tissue. The researchers hope to use an optical "time-reversal" trick previously developed by Yang to counteract the scattering,
http://www.caltech.edu/content/new-technique-makes-tissues-transparent
"Integrative Functional Mapping of Sensory-Motor Pathways"
Michael H. Dickinson, Esther M. and Abe M. Zarem Professor of Bioengineering
As in other animals, locomotion in the fruit fly is a complicated process involving the interplay of sensory systems and motor circuits in the brain. Dickinson and his colleagues hope to decipher just how the brain uses sensory information to guide movements by developing a system to record the activity of large numbers of individual neurons from across the brains of
"Establishing a Comprehensive and Standardized Cell Type Characterization Platform"
David J. Anderson, Seymour Benzer Professor of Biology; Investigator, Howard Hughes Medical Institute (co-PI)
In collaboration with Hongkui Zeng and colleagues at the Allen Institute for Brain Science in Seattle, Anderson will help to develop a detailed, publicly available database characterizing the genetic, physiological, and morphological features of the various cell types in the brain that are involved in circuits controlling sensations and emotions.
"Vertically integrated approach to visual neuroscience: microcircuits to behavior"
Markus Meister, Lawrence A. Hanson, Jr. Professor of Biology (co-PI)
This project, led by Hyunjune Sebastian Seung of Princeton University, will use genetic, electrophysiological, and imaging tools to identify and map the neural connections of the retina, the light-sensing tissue in the eye, and determine their roles in visual perception and behavior. "Here we are shooting for a vertically integrated understanding of a neural system," Meister says. "The retina offers such a fantastic degree of experimental access that one can hope to bridge all scales of organization, from molecules to cells to microcircuits to behavior.
http://www.caltech.edu/news/caltech-researchers-receive-nih-brain-funding-43895
On September 30, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) announced its first round of funding in furtherance of President Obama's "Brain Research through Advancing Innovative Neurotechnology"—or BRAIN—Initiative. Included among the 58 funded projects—all of which, according to the NIH, are geared toward the development of "new tools and technologies to understand neural circuit function and capture a dynamic view of the brain in action"—are six projects either led or co-led by Caltech researchers.
"Dissecting human brain circuits in vivo using ultrasonic neuromodulation"
Doris Tsao, assistant professor of biology
Mikhail Shapiro, assistant professor of chemical engineering
Tsao and Shapiro are teaming up to develop a new technology that both uses ultrasound to map and determine the function of interconnected brain networks and, ultimately, to change neural activity deep within the brain.
"This would open new horizons for understanding human brain function and connectivity, and create completely new options for the noninvasive treatment of brain diseases such as intractable epilepsy, depression, and Parkinson's disease," Tsao says. "The key," Shapiro adds, "is to gain a precise understanding of the various mechanisms by which sound waves interact with neurons in the brain so we can use ultrasound to produce very specific neurological effects. We will be able to do this across the full spectrum, from molecules up to large model organisms."
"Modular nanophotonic probes for dense neural recording at single-cell resolution"
Michael Roukes, Robert M. Abbey Professor of Physics, Applied Physics, and Bioengineering
Thanos Siapas, professor of computation and neural systems
Roukes, Siapas, and their colleagues at Columbia University and Baylor College of Medicine propose to build ultra-dense arrays of miniature light-emitting and light-sensing probes using advanced silicon "chip" technology that permits their production en masse. These probes open the new field of integrated neurophotonics, Roukes says, and will permit simultaneous recording of the electrical activity of hundreds of thousands to, ultimately, millions of neurons, with single-cell resolution, in any given region of the brain. "The instrumentation we'll develop will enable us to observe the trafficking of information, in vivo, in brain circuits on an unprecedented scale, and to correlate this activity with behavior," he says.
"Time-Reversal Optical Focusing for Noninvasive Optogenetics"
Changhuei Yang, professor of electrical engineering, bioengineering, and medical engineering
Viviana Gradinaru, assistant professor of biology
Deep-brain stimulation has been used successfully for nearly two decades for the treatment of epilepsy, Parkinson's disease, chronic pain, depression, and other disorders. Current systems rely on electrodes implanted deep within the brain to modify the firing pattern of specific clusters of neurons, bringing them back into a more normal pattern. Yang and Gradinaru are working together on a method that would use only light waves to noninvasively activate light-sensitive molecules and precisely guide the firing of nerves. Biological tissues are opaque due to the scattering of light waves, and that scattering makes it impossible to finely focus a laser beam deep into brain tissue. The researchers hope to use an optical "time-reversal" trick previously developed by Yang to counteract the scattering,
http://www.caltech.edu/content/new-technique-makes-tissues-transparent
"Integrative Functional Mapping of Sensory-Motor Pathways"
Michael H. Dickinson, Esther M. and Abe M. Zarem Professor of Bioengineering
As in other animals, locomotion in the fruit fly is a complicated process involving the interplay of sensory systems and motor circuits in the brain. Dickinson and his colleagues hope to decipher just how the brain uses sensory information to guide movements by developing a system to record the activity of large numbers of individual neurons from across the brains of
"Establishing a Comprehensive and Standardized Cell Type Characterization Platform"
David J. Anderson, Seymour Benzer Professor of Biology; Investigator, Howard Hughes Medical Institute (co-PI)
In collaboration with Hongkui Zeng and colleagues at the Allen Institute for Brain Science in Seattle, Anderson will help to develop a detailed, publicly available database characterizing the genetic, physiological, and morphological features of the various cell types in the brain that are involved in circuits controlling sensations and emotions.
"Vertically integrated approach to visual neuroscience: microcircuits to behavior"
Markus Meister, Lawrence A. Hanson, Jr. Professor of Biology (co-PI)
This project, led by Hyunjune Sebastian Seung of Princeton University, will use genetic, electrophysiological, and imaging tools to identify and map the neural connections of the retina, the light-sensing tissue in the eye, and determine their roles in visual perception and behavior. "Here we are shooting for a vertically integrated understanding of a neural system," Meister says. "The retina offers such a fantastic degree of experimental access that one can hope to bridge all scales of organization, from molecules to cells to microcircuits to behavior.
http://www.caltech.edu/news/caltech-researchers-receive-nih-brain-funding-43895
19 May 2017 01:16
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FDA approves first MRI-guided focused ultrasound device to treat essential tremor
https://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm510595.htm
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration today approved the first focused ultrasound device to treat essential tremor in patients who have not responded to medication. ExAblate Neuro uses magnetic resonance (MR) images taken during the procedure to deliver focused ultrasound to destroy brain tissue in a tiny area thought to be responsible for causing tremors.
“Patients with essential tremor who have not seen improvement with medication now have a new treatment option that could help them to avoid more invasive surgical treatments,” said Carlos Peña, Ph.D., M.S., director of the division of neurological and physical medicine devices in the FDA’s Center for Devices and Radiological Health. “As with other treatments for essential tremor, this new device is not a cure but could help patients enjoy a better quality of life.”
Essential tremor, also called benign essential tremor, is the most common form of tremor. According to the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke, several million Americans, usually those over age 40, are affected by the condition. Essential tremor may be treated with beta blockers or anticonvulsant drugs. If medications fail to control symptoms, the condition may also be treated with surgery (thalamotomy) or a deep brain stimulation device to destroy the tiny part of the brain (thalamus) that controls some involuntary movements.
To determine if the ExAblate Neuro treatment is appropriate, patients should first have MR and computerized tomography (CT) scans.
https://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm510595.htm
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration today approved the first focused ultrasound device to treat essential tremor in patients who have not responded to medication. ExAblate Neuro uses magnetic resonance (MR) images taken during the procedure to deliver focused ultrasound to destroy brain tissue in a tiny area thought to be responsible for causing tremors.
“Patients with essential tremor who have not seen improvement with medication now have a new treatment option that could help them to avoid more invasive surgical treatments,” said Carlos Peña, Ph.D., M.S., director of the division of neurological and physical medicine devices in the FDA’s Center for Devices and Radiological Health. “As with other treatments for essential tremor, this new device is not a cure but could help patients enjoy a better quality of life.”
Essential tremor, also called benign essential tremor, is the most common form of tremor. According to the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke, several million Americans, usually those over age 40, are affected by the condition. Essential tremor may be treated with beta blockers or anticonvulsant drugs. If medications fail to control symptoms, the condition may also be treated with surgery (thalamotomy) or a deep brain stimulation device to destroy the tiny part of the brain (thalamus) that controls some involuntary movements.
To determine if the ExAblate Neuro treatment is appropriate, patients should first have MR and computerized tomography (CT) scans.
https://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm510595.htm
19 May 2017 01:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.quantumconsciousness.org/content/transcranial-ultrasound-0
Tuning the Brain-TUS
TUS - Transcranial Ultrasound
Ultrasound consists of megahertz mechanical vibrations, and is widely used for medical imaging. As microtubules have megahertz vibrations, we have been studying ultrasound effects on the brain, delivered non-invasively from the scalp – ‘transcranial ultrasound’ (‘TUS’). We performed the first clinical trial of transcranial ultrasound (TUS) on mental states on human volunteers, finding that 15 seconds of sub-thermal 8 MHz ultrasound applied at the fronto-temporal scalp resulted in 40 minutes of mood improvement compared with placebo.
Transcranial ultrasound (TUS) effects on mental states: A pilot study, B
http://www.brainstimjrnl.com/article/S1935-861X%2812%2900084-8/abstract
Two subsequent TUS studies done in collaboration with UA professor of psychology John Allen and post-doc Jay Sanguinetti have shown similar mood improvement from brief, sub-thermal TUS. These studies are currently being written up for publication.
http://www.newswise.com/articles/good-vibrations-brain-ultrasound-improves-mood?ret=/articles/list&category=my-articles&page=1&search%5Bbilling_institution_id%5D=16800&search%5Bsort%5D=date+desc&search%5Bhas_multimedia%5D=
http://uanews.org/story/good-vibrations-mediating-mood-through-brain-ultrasound
Tuning the Brain-TUS
TUS - Transcranial Ultrasound
Ultrasound consists of megahertz mechanical vibrations, and is widely used for medical imaging. As microtubules have megahertz vibrations, we have been studying ultrasound effects on the brain, delivered non-invasively from the scalp – ‘transcranial ultrasound’ (‘TUS’). We performed the first clinical trial of transcranial ultrasound (TUS) on mental states on human volunteers, finding that 15 seconds of sub-thermal 8 MHz ultrasound applied at the fronto-temporal scalp resulted in 40 minutes of mood improvement compared with placebo.
Transcranial ultrasound (TUS) effects on mental states: A pilot study, B
http://www.brainstimjrnl.com/article/S1935-861X%2812%2900084-8/abstract
Two subsequent TUS studies done in collaboration with UA professor of psychology John Allen and post-doc Jay Sanguinetti have shown similar mood improvement from brief, sub-thermal TUS. These studies are currently being written up for publication.
http://www.newswise.com/articles/good-vibrations-brain-ultrasound-improves-mood?ret=/articles/list&category=my-articles&page=1&search%5Bbilling_institution_id%5D=16800&search%5Bsort%5D=date+desc&search%5Bhas_multimedia%5D=
http://uanews.org/story/good-vibrations-mediating-mood-through-brain-ultrasound
http://www.quantumconsciousness.org/content/transcranial-ultrasound-0
19 May 2017 01:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://alan-urban.fr/index.php/brain-technologies/functional-ultrasound/presentation
UNDERSTANDING THE BRAIN THROUGH INNOVATIVE IMAGING TECHNOLOGIES
Rapidly apply insights gained from model organisms to human health
To address the challenges presented by neuroimaging, we develop a broad, interdisciplinary and translational science based on our own expertise and fruitfull collaborations with scientists, industries and citizens from all around the world.
These pages also aim at providing basic information on optogenetics, in vivo brain imaging and recording of electrical activity. Please use the top menu to navigate through the page
functional UltraSound (fUS) imaging
http://alan-urban.fr/index.php/brain-technologies/functional-ultrasound/presentation
Fast, Cheap, Non radiative, No contrast agent, Imaging in depth, Compatible with chronic studies
Brain imaging includes different methods that fall into two broad categories: structural and functional imaging. Structural imaging investigates the structure of the brain and can be used for the diagnosis of large-scale intracranial diseases such as tumors, and injuries.
Fortuitously, abandonment of ultrasound to try to detect brain tumors came at the same time that new radiological technologies for brain imaging such as Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI) and Positron Emission Tomography (PET) were emerging. These powerful modalities relegate ultrasound brain imaging to specific applications such as monitoring of cerebral blood flow in patients with severe head trauma or neonatal imaging through the fontanel window. Until recently, ultrasound imaging was unable to produce functional images of the brain because Doppler ultrasound is not sensitive enough to detect small blood flow changes.
However, functional UltraSound allows recording of specific brain areas activated during a certain stimulus or function. This arises in a specific context of technological progress that makes such an imaging system possible today. Indeed, we can identify three major advances in the recent years that paved the way for functional ultrasound imaging: the increase in electronics performance, the increase in computer power and the advent of contrast agents.
UNDERSTANDING THE BRAIN THROUGH INNOVATIVE IMAGING TECHNOLOGIES
Rapidly apply insights gained from model organisms to human health
To address the challenges presented by neuroimaging, we develop a broad, interdisciplinary and translational science based on our own expertise and fruitfull collaborations with scientists, industries and citizens from all around the world.
These pages also aim at providing basic information on optogenetics, in vivo brain imaging and recording of electrical activity. Please use the top menu to navigate through the page
functional UltraSound (fUS) imaging
http://alan-urban.fr/index.php/brain-technologies/functional-ultrasound/presentation
Fast, Cheap, Non radiative, No contrast agent, Imaging in depth, Compatible with chronic studies
Brain imaging includes different methods that fall into two broad categories: structural and functional imaging. Structural imaging investigates the structure of the brain and can be used for the diagnosis of large-scale intracranial diseases such as tumors, and injuries.
Fortuitously, abandonment of ultrasound to try to detect brain tumors came at the same time that new radiological technologies for brain imaging such as Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI) and Positron Emission Tomography (PET) were emerging. These powerful modalities relegate ultrasound brain imaging to specific applications such as monitoring of cerebral blood flow in patients with severe head trauma or neonatal imaging through the fontanel window. Until recently, ultrasound imaging was unable to produce functional images of the brain because Doppler ultrasound is not sensitive enough to detect small blood flow changes.
However, functional UltraSound allows recording of specific brain areas activated during a certain stimulus or function. This arises in a specific context of technological progress that makes such an imaging system possible today. Indeed, we can identify three major advances in the recent years that paved the way for functional ultrasound imaging: the increase in electronics performance, the increase in computer power and the advent of contrast agents.
http://alan-urban.fr/index.php/brain-technologies/functional-ultrasound/presentation
19 May 2017 01:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Photoacoustic brain imaging: from microscopic to macroscopic scales
http://neurophotonics.spiedigitallibrary.org/article.aspx?articleid=1877516
n this review, we will present the state-of-the-art PAT technology, focusing on its multiscale, functional, and metabolic brain imaging capabilities. Then, we will summarize the representative applications of PAT in neuroscience studies. Further improvements in PAT of the brain, especially for humans, will be discussed. The potential paths toward clinical brain imaging by PAT will be outlined, and likely achievements in the coming years will be envisioned.
2014
With a 3.5 MHz ultrasonic transducer, a penetration depth of 8 mm can be achieved, with an in-plane resolution of 0.2 mm. (d) Circular-view thermoacoustic tomography (TAT) of a monkey brain with the scalp and skull intact
http://neurophotonics.spiedigitallibrary.org/article.aspx?articleid=1877516
n this review, we will present the state-of-the-art PAT technology, focusing on its multiscale, functional, and metabolic brain imaging capabilities. Then, we will summarize the representative applications of PAT in neuroscience studies. Further improvements in PAT of the brain, especially for humans, will be discussed. The potential paths toward clinical brain imaging by PAT will be outlined, and likely achievements in the coming years will be envisioned.
2014
With a 3.5 MHz ultrasonic transducer, a penetration depth of 8 mm can be achieved, with an in-plane resolution of 0.2 mm. (d) Circular-view thermoacoustic tomography (TAT) of a monkey brain with the scalp and skull intact
http://neurophotonics.spiedigitallibrary.org/article.aspx?articleid=1877516
19 May 2017 01:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Targeting accuracy of transcranial magnetic resonance–guided high-intensity focused ultrasound brain therapy: a fresh cadaver model
Laboratory investigation
http://thejns.org/doi/abs/10.3171/2013.1.JNS12559
This work aimed at evaluating the accuracy of MR-guided high-intensity focused ultrasound (MRgHIFU) brain therapy in human cadaver heads.
Laboratory investigation
http://thejns.org/doi/abs/10.3171/2013.1.JNS12559
This work aimed at evaluating the accuracy of MR-guided high-intensity focused ultrasound (MRgHIFU) brain therapy in human cadaver heads.
http://thejns.org/doi/abs/10.3171/2013.1.JNS12559
19 May 2017 01:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sound-waves-can-heal-brain-disorders/
Physicians are also considering high-intensity focused ultrasound as an alternative to brain surgery. Patients with movement disorders such as Parkinson's disease and dystonia are increasingly being treated with implanted electrodes, which can interrupt problematic brain activity. A team at the University of Virginia hopes to use focused ultrasound to deliver thermal lesions deep into the brain without having patients go under the knife.
“Using ultrasound to make lesions in the body is not a new concept; however, it's been limited for the brain because of the contours, density and thickness of the skull,”
Physicians are also considering high-intensity focused ultrasound as an alternative to brain surgery. Patients with movement disorders such as Parkinson's disease and dystonia are increasingly being treated with implanted electrodes, which can interrupt problematic brain activity. A team at the University of Virginia hopes to use focused ultrasound to deliver thermal lesions deep into the brain without having patients go under the knife.
“Using ultrasound to make lesions in the body is not a new concept; however, it's been limited for the brain because of the contours, density and thickness of the skull,”
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sound-waves-can-heal-brain-disorders/
19 May 2017 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
New ultrasound scanning technique removes amyloid beta plaques in mouse brains
https://www.dementiaresearchfoundation.org.au/blog/new-ultrasound-scanning-technique-removes-amyloid-beta-plaques-mouse-brains
Results published in the Journal Science Translational Medicine, showed that applying the ultrasound technique on mice with Alzheimer’s disease removed amyloid beta plaques from the brain, and in some cases, cleared the plaques completely. Treated mice were also found to perform better on a variety of memory tests, indicating that it may also reverse the symptoms of Alzheimer’s disease.
https://www.dementiaresearchfoundation.org.au/blog/new-ultrasound-scanning-technique-removes-amyloid-beta-plaques-mouse-brains
Results published in the Journal Science Translational Medicine, showed that applying the ultrasound technique on mice with Alzheimer’s disease removed amyloid beta plaques from the brain, and in some cases, cleared the plaques completely. Treated mice were also found to perform better on a variety of memory tests, indicating that it may also reverse the symptoms of Alzheimer’s disease.
https://www.dementiaresearchfoundation.org.au/blog/new-ultrasound-scanning-technique-removes-amyloid-beta-plaques-mouse-brains
19 May 2017 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
UCLA scientists use ultrasound to jump-start a man’s brain after coma
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/ucla-scientists-use-ultrasound-to-jump-start-a-mans-brain-after-coma
“It’s almost as if we were jump-starting the neurons back into function,” said Martin Monti, the study’s lead author and a UCLA associate professor of psychology and neurosurgery. “Until now, the only way to achieve this was a risky surgical procedure known as deep brain stimulation, in which electrodes are implanted directly inside the thalamus,” he said. “Our approach directly targets the thalamus but is noninvasive.”
Monti said the researchers expected the positive result, but he cautioned that the procedure requires further study on additional patients before they determine whether it could be used consistently to help other people recovering from comas.
“It is possible that we were just very lucky and happened to have stimulated the patient just as he was spontaneously recovering,” Monti said.
A report on the treatment is published in the journal Brain Stimulation. This is the first time the approach has been used to treat severe brain injury.
Martin Monti/UCLA
The researchers targeted the thalamus with low-intensity focused ultrasound pulsation.
The technique, called low-intensity focused ultrasound pulsation, was pioneered by Alexander Bystritsky, a UCLA professor of psychiatry and biobehavioral sciences in the Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior and a co-author of the study. Bystritsky is also a founder of Brainsonix, a Sherman Oaks, California-based company that provided the device the researchers used in the study.
That device, about the size of a coffee cup saucer, creates a small sphere of acoustic energy that can be aimed at different regions of the brain to excite brain tissue. For the new study, researchers placed it by the side of the man’s head and activated it 10 times for 30 seconds each, in a 10-minute period.
Monti said the device is safe because it emits only a small amount of energy — less than a conventional Doppler ultrasound.
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/ucla-scientists-use-ultrasound-to-jump-start-a-mans-brain-after-coma
“It’s almost as if we were jump-starting the neurons back into function,” said Martin Monti, the study’s lead author and a UCLA associate professor of psychology and neurosurgery. “Until now, the only way to achieve this was a risky surgical procedure known as deep brain stimulation, in which electrodes are implanted directly inside the thalamus,” he said. “Our approach directly targets the thalamus but is noninvasive.”
Monti said the researchers expected the positive result, but he cautioned that the procedure requires further study on additional patients before they determine whether it could be used consistently to help other people recovering from comas.
“It is possible that we were just very lucky and happened to have stimulated the patient just as he was spontaneously recovering,” Monti said.
A report on the treatment is published in the journal Brain Stimulation. This is the first time the approach has been used to treat severe brain injury.
Martin Monti/UCLA
The researchers targeted the thalamus with low-intensity focused ultrasound pulsation.
The technique, called low-intensity focused ultrasound pulsation, was pioneered by Alexander Bystritsky, a UCLA professor of psychiatry and biobehavioral sciences in the Semel Institute for Neuroscience and Human Behavior and a co-author of the study. Bystritsky is also a founder of Brainsonix, a Sherman Oaks, California-based company that provided the device the researchers used in the study.
That device, about the size of a coffee cup saucer, creates a small sphere of acoustic energy that can be aimed at different regions of the brain to excite brain tissue. For the new study, researchers placed it by the side of the man’s head and activated it 10 times for 30 seconds each, in a 10-minute period.
Monti said the device is safe because it emits only a small amount of energy — less than a conventional Doppler ultrasound.
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/ucla-scientists-use-ultrasound-to-jump-start-a-mans-brain-after-coma
19 May 2017 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ultrasound Sharpens Human Sensory Perception
http://www.qmed.com/news/ultrasound-sharpens-human-sensory-perception
Low-intensity transcranial ultrasound can heighten sensory perception in humans, according to a paper published online January 12 in Nature Neuroscience. In the study, carried out by scientists at the Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University's (Virginia Tech; Roanoke, VA) Carilion Research Institute, subjects receiving ultrasound showed significant improvements in their ability to perform on two classic neurological tests, the two-point discrimination test, and the frequency discrimination test.
A release published on the Virginia Tech Web site quotes study leader William “Jamie” Tyler, assistant professor at the Carilion Research Institute, as saying,“Ultrasound has great potential for bringing unprecedented resolution to the growing trend of mapping the human brain’s connectivity. So we decided to look at the effects of ultrasound on the region of the brain responsible for processing tactile sensory inputs.”
A), The focused ultrasound transducer is shown placed at EEG electrode site CP3 on a model of a human head (left). A top-down schematic (right) illustrates transducer and electrode positioning at international 10-20 EEG electrode site…
http://www.qmed.com/news/ultrasound-sharpens-human-sensory-perception
Low-intensity transcranial ultrasound can heighten sensory perception in humans, according to a paper published online January 12 in Nature Neuroscience. In the study, carried out by scientists at the Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University's (Virginia Tech; Roanoke, VA) Carilion Research Institute, subjects receiving ultrasound showed significant improvements in their ability to perform on two classic neurological tests, the two-point discrimination test, and the frequency discrimination test.
A release published on the Virginia Tech Web site quotes study leader William “Jamie” Tyler, assistant professor at the Carilion Research Institute, as saying,“Ultrasound has great potential for bringing unprecedented resolution to the growing trend of mapping the human brain’s connectivity. So we decided to look at the effects of ultrasound on the region of the brain responsible for processing tactile sensory inputs.”
A), The focused ultrasound transducer is shown placed at EEG electrode site CP3 on a model of a human head (left). A top-down schematic (right) illustrates transducer and electrode positioning at international 10-20 EEG electrode site…
http://www.qmed.com/news/ultrasound-sharpens-human-sensory-perception
19 May 2017 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.pnas.org/content/107/34/15205.full.pdf
Magnetic resonance monitoring of focusedultrasound/magnetic nanoparticle targeting deliveryof therapeutic agents to the brain
Magnetic resonance monitoring of focusedultrasound/magnetic nanoparticle targeting deliveryof therapeutic agents to the brain
19 May 2017 01:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Inaudible High-Frequency Sounds Affect Brain Activity: Hypersonic Effect
http://jn.physiology.org/content/83/6/3548
Although it is generally accepted that humans cannot perceive sounds in the frequency range above 20 kHz, the question of whether the existence of such “inaudible” high-frequency components may affect the acoustic perception of audible sounds remains unanswered. In this study, we used noninvasive physiological measurements of brain responses to provide evidence that sounds containing high-frequency components (HFCs) above the audible range significantly affect the brain activity of listeners.
audible low-frequency component (LFC)
high-frequency components (HFCs)
regional cerebral blood flow (rCBF)
Positron emission tomography measurements revealed that, when an HFC and an LFC were presented together, the rCBF in the brain stem and the left thalamus increased significantly compared with a sound lacking the HFC above 22 kHz but that was otherwise identical. Simultaneous EEG measurements showed that the power of occipital alpha-EEGs correlated significantly with the rCBF in the left thalamus. Psychological evaluation indicated that the subjects felt the sound containing an HFC to be more pleasant than the same sound lacking an HFC. These results suggest the existence of a previously unrecognized response to complex sound containing particular types of high frequencies above the audible range. We term this phenomenon the “hypersonic effect.”
http://jn.physiology.org/content/83/6/3548
Although it is generally accepted that humans cannot perceive sounds in the frequency range above 20 kHz, the question of whether the existence of such “inaudible” high-frequency components may affect the acoustic perception of audible sounds remains unanswered. In this study, we used noninvasive physiological measurements of brain responses to provide evidence that sounds containing high-frequency components (HFCs) above the audible range significantly affect the brain activity of listeners.
audible low-frequency component (LFC)
high-frequency components (HFCs)
regional cerebral blood flow (rCBF)
Positron emission tomography measurements revealed that, when an HFC and an LFC were presented together, the rCBF in the brain stem and the left thalamus increased significantly compared with a sound lacking the HFC above 22 kHz but that was otherwise identical. Simultaneous EEG measurements showed that the power of occipital alpha-EEGs correlated significantly with the rCBF in the left thalamus. Psychological evaluation indicated that the subjects felt the sound containing an HFC to be more pleasant than the same sound lacking an HFC. These results suggest the existence of a previously unrecognized response to complex sound containing particular types of high frequencies above the audible range. We term this phenomenon the “hypersonic effect.”
http://jn.physiology.org/content/83/6/3548
19 May 2017 01:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.wileyprotocolsystems.com/component/content/article/81-articles/321-ultrasound-brain-abnormalities.html
Prolonged and frequent use of ultrasound waves on pregnant mice caused abnormalities in the brain of the developing mouse embryo, Yale School of Medicine researchers reported in a issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science. While the authors did not specifically address a connection to autism, the abnormalities occurred as neurons (nerve cells) were in the process of moving to their proper positions in the outer layers of the brain's cerebral cortex—the “grey matter” that is the center of “thinking”, memory, perceptual awareness, language and consciousness.
The Inside-to-Outside Journey of the Nerve Cells
In the early fetal development of mammals, the nerve cells originate and multiply in “proliferative” zones of the developing brain, according to the researchers. They describe how the nerve cells must then find their way with the aid of helper cells to their final destinations in the outer layers of the cerebral cortex of the brain.
When this inside-to-outside migration of the nerve cells progresses normally, the cells take their place in a well-ordered grid of horizontal and vertical layers of the cortex. As described by the neuroscientists, Pasko Rakic and Paul J. Lombroso, the earliest born nerve cells settle in the deepest cortical layers while the later born cells move on to the outer layers.
-Nerve Cells are Tracked to Their Final Locations
On the 16th day of embryonic development — at a late stage when the pathways to the cortical layer are the longest — the Yale team injected pregnant mice with a special marker to track the location of the nerve cells. Within the next three days of embryonic development in which cell migration was continuing, the mice were exposed to multiple sessions of ultrasound waves with total exposure ranging from 5 to 420 minutes. A control group of mice completed an identical procedure except for exposure to USW.
In exposures totaling from 30 minutes to 420 minutes, results showed a consistently smaller number of the nerve cells had arrived in their proper places in the layers of the cortex, with the number of misplaced nerve cells increasing as the frequency and length of exposure to USW increased. Doubling exposure time from 15 minutes to 30 minutes increased the number of misplaced cells from 5% to 9%. At a total of 420 minutes exposure, investigators found that 19% of the nerve cells failed to find their correct positions.
In the group exposed to USW for just 15 and 5 minutes, the effect was not significant, but when all the data were pooled together, across all durations of exposure, the results showed a consistent overall pattern of a smaller number of the labeled nerve cells reaching the upper cortical layers where they belonged.
The role of stress due to the experimental procedure was tracked in the control group, which did not receive USW. The results showed no significant effect of stress up to 210 minutes, but at durations of 420 minutes, the stress of the long procedure led to increased cell misplacemen
Prolonged and frequent use of ultrasound waves on pregnant mice caused abnormalities in the brain of the developing mouse embryo, Yale School of Medicine researchers reported in a issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science. While the authors did not specifically address a connection to autism, the abnormalities occurred as neurons (nerve cells) were in the process of moving to their proper positions in the outer layers of the brain's cerebral cortex—the “grey matter” that is the center of “thinking”, memory, perceptual awareness, language and consciousness.
The Inside-to-Outside Journey of the Nerve Cells
In the early fetal development of mammals, the nerve cells originate and multiply in “proliferative” zones of the developing brain, according to the researchers. They describe how the nerve cells must then find their way with the aid of helper cells to their final destinations in the outer layers of the cerebral cortex of the brain.
When this inside-to-outside migration of the nerve cells progresses normally, the cells take their place in a well-ordered grid of horizontal and vertical layers of the cortex. As described by the neuroscientists, Pasko Rakic and Paul J. Lombroso, the earliest born nerve cells settle in the deepest cortical layers while the later born cells move on to the outer layers.
-Nerve Cells are Tracked to Their Final Locations
On the 16th day of embryonic development — at a late stage when the pathways to the cortical layer are the longest — the Yale team injected pregnant mice with a special marker to track the location of the nerve cells. Within the next three days of embryonic development in which cell migration was continuing, the mice were exposed to multiple sessions of ultrasound waves with total exposure ranging from 5 to 420 minutes. A control group of mice completed an identical procedure except for exposure to USW.
In exposures totaling from 30 minutes to 420 minutes, results showed a consistently smaller number of the nerve cells had arrived in their proper places in the layers of the cortex, with the number of misplaced nerve cells increasing as the frequency and length of exposure to USW increased. Doubling exposure time from 15 minutes to 30 minutes increased the number of misplaced cells from 5% to 9%. At a total of 420 minutes exposure, investigators found that 19% of the nerve cells failed to find their correct positions.
In the group exposed to USW for just 15 and 5 minutes, the effect was not significant, but when all the data were pooled together, across all durations of exposure, the results showed a consistent overall pattern of a smaller number of the labeled nerve cells reaching the upper cortical layers where they belonged.
The role of stress due to the experimental procedure was tracked in the control group, which did not receive USW. The results showed no significant effect of stress up to 210 minutes, but at durations of 420 minutes, the stress of the long procedure led to increased cell misplacemen
http://www.wileyprotocolsystems.com/component/content/article/81-articles/321-ultrasound-brain-abnormalities.html
19 May 2017 01:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Prolonged Ultrasound Exposure May Harm Fetal Brain
http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/articles/prolonged-ultrasound-exposure-may-harm-fetal-brain
Physicians should be prudent about the use of ultrasonography and perform the procedure only when medically necessary and when benefits outweigh risk, according to the American College of Radiology (ACR). The advice comes in the wake of recent findings by Yale researchers that suggest that prenatal ultrasound exposure may harm the developing brain.
The Yale team found that exposing pregnant mice to ultrasound waves at frequencies of 6.7 MHz for 30 minutes or more interfered with normal neuronal migration in the mouse fetuses. This interference could potentially result in brain abnormalities such as mental retardation and seizures.
"It's important for the public to remember that imaging involves putting ultrasonographic energy into the fetus," said Carol M. Rumack, MD, chair of the ACR Ultrasound Commission and professor of pediatrics and radiology at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center in Denver. According to Rumack, the study provides further proof that ultrasound should not be performed to create keepsake videos and that only qualified medical personnel should operate ultrasound equipment.
"It's important for the public to remember that imaging involves putting ultrasonographic energy into the fetus,"
Ultrasonography probably does not cause harm when used in the appropriate setting by appropriately trained personnel; however, the ACR has been vocal about possible abuses of the technology and of allowing wider access to ultrasonography equipment. Indeed, Rumack testified before the FDA in March 2006 against a proposal that would make low-level ultrasound monitors available over the counter as an aid for tracking fetal heart rates. In pointing to the new data, Rumack cautioned that women with normal pregnancies should not take the risk of continuous ultrasonographic exposure for nonmedical purposes.
http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/articles/prolonged-ultrasound-exposure-may-harm-fetal-brain
Physicians should be prudent about the use of ultrasonography and perform the procedure only when medically necessary and when benefits outweigh risk, according to the American College of Radiology (ACR). The advice comes in the wake of recent findings by Yale researchers that suggest that prenatal ultrasound exposure may harm the developing brain.
The Yale team found that exposing pregnant mice to ultrasound waves at frequencies of 6.7 MHz for 30 minutes or more interfered with normal neuronal migration in the mouse fetuses. This interference could potentially result in brain abnormalities such as mental retardation and seizures.
"It's important for the public to remember that imaging involves putting ultrasonographic energy into the fetus," said Carol M. Rumack, MD, chair of the ACR Ultrasound Commission and professor of pediatrics and radiology at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center in Denver. According to Rumack, the study provides further proof that ultrasound should not be performed to create keepsake videos and that only qualified medical personnel should operate ultrasound equipment.
"It's important for the public to remember that imaging involves putting ultrasonographic energy into the fetus,"
Ultrasonography probably does not cause harm when used in the appropriate setting by appropriately trained personnel; however, the ACR has been vocal about possible abuses of the technology and of allowing wider access to ultrasonography equipment. Indeed, Rumack testified before the FDA in March 2006 against a proposal that would make low-level ultrasound monitors available over the counter as an aid for tracking fetal heart rates. In pointing to the new data, Rumack cautioned that women with normal pregnancies should not take the risk of continuous ultrasonographic exposure for nonmedical purposes.
http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/articles/prolonged-ultrasound-exposure-may-harm-fetal-brain
19 May 2017 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ultrasound: 7 Reasons Your Developing Baby Says It’s NOT Safe or Painless
http://blog.pathwaystofamilywellness.org/pathways/ultrasound-7-reasons-your-developing-baby-says-its-not-safe-or-painless/
No one’s really certain. No one knows for sure what effects ultrasound have on the developing fetus. But since the time when Maureen had her first child, we’ve learned more.
Research is raising questions about the procedure’s safety. In fact, this past December 2014, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued its first ever caution on ultrasound during pregnancy.
http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm095508.htm
Aptly named, ultra-sound waves reach a high frequency of about 20 megahertz or 20 million cycles per second; greater than the upper limit of human hearing. Ultrasound machines adapted for use as a medical test must generate waves only in pulses because one continuous ultrasound wave could produce too much heat potentially damaging the tissue being examined.
-ONE: Ultrasound vibrates the fetus.
Ultrasound waves are vibrations that pass through matter and transfer their energy from one point to another. If there is no physical matter to bounce off, then nothing can vibrate and there is no sound.
TWO: Ultrasound may be loud enough to affect fetal hearing development.
Though ultrasound pulses reach a frequency greater than our ability to hear, researchers demonstrated that the fetus may hear them. Greenleaf, et al from the Department of Basic Ultrasound Research, Mayo Clinic and Foundation in Rochester, Minnesota placed a small hydrophone inside a pregnant woman’s uterus and found…
…the force, from the impact of the ultrasound pulses, produced an audible localized high‐intensity noise due to secondary vibrations in a woman’s uterus.
How loud was this high‐intensity noise? When the ultrasound probe pointed right at the hydrophone, it registered 100 decibels.
Put in perspective: 20 decibels sounds like a whisper, 110 is the average human pain threshold, and 150 decibels is eardrum rupture.
“It’s fairly loud if the probe is aimed right at the ear of the fetus,” says Greenleaf.
THREE: Prolonged use of ultrasound can result in unsafe energy levels.
The FDA is clear – fetal ultrasound Dopplers for use at home could pose risks to your baby. The agency also strongly discourages keepsake ultrasound scans explaining both could expose the fetus to prolonged and unsafe energy levels.
FOUR: Ultrasound is capable of deforming cell membranes.
Dr. Manuel Casanova, M.D., Professor of Anatomical Sciences and Neurobiology at the University of Louisville and the Gottfried and Gisela Kolb Endowed Chair in Outpatient Psychiatry spoke with my friend and author Jennifer Margulis, Ph.D. about ultrasound.
It is precisely because ultrasound can deform cells that, as Dr. Casanova explained, “…the FDA has approved the use of ultrasound for bone fractures because it accelerates cell division, it accelerates healing of the bone.”
FIVE: Ultrasound is capable of deforming brain cell membranes which may lead to autism.
Ultrasound can’t tell the difference between brain cells or other cells. “When it (ultrasound) deforms the membrane of the cell, it activates mechanisms that have to do with cell growth and with cell divisions… Within the brain of autistic individuals there appears to be something that promotes the division of these stem cells…at a time when they shouldn’t be dividing.” Jennifer further discusses ultrasound in her book, The Business of Baby, and wrote more on the subject for the Daily Beast, and for Pathways Magazine
SIX: Yale researchers also found a significant number of neurons failed to acquire their proper position in the brain.
Instead, the neurons remained dispersed throughout, after mice were exposed to ultrasound waves for 30 min or longer. Eugenius, et al, Department of Neurobiology and Kavli Institute for Neuroscience, Yale Medical School, demonstrated that while the amount of scattered neurons was variable, the scatter methodically increased with the duration of ultrasound suggesting long ultrasounds may harm the developing brain.
Yes, ultrasound can affect proper neuron migration to appropriate positions in the developing brain. This process is critical to normal brain function. And we are learning this process is also vulnerable to environmental and physical factors.
“The bottom line is you only get one chance to develop a brain,” Philippe Grandjean, M.D., of the Harvard School of Public Health.
SEVEN: Ultrasound can make tissues hot enough to cause damage.
“Ultrasound can heat tissues slightly, and in some cases, it can also produce very small bubbles (cavitation) in some tissues”, explains FDA biomedical engineer Shahram Vaezy, Ph.D.. The FDA continues its caution with “The long-term effects of tissue heating and cavitation are not known. Therefore, ultrasound scans should be done only when there is a medical need, based on a prescription, and performed by appropriately-trained operators.”
Ultrasound does not improve health for babies.
A case for the procedure can be made for its ability to detect abnormalities early enough for parents to choose to abort, but detection is limited. Of the more than 5,000 potential chromosomal abnormalities, ultrasound can detect only a few like Down’s syndrome. Ultrasound can also misdiagnose abnormalities when there are none, or detect abnormalities about which nothing can be done. Parents may be left with some tough decisions.
http://blog.pathwaystofamilywellness.org/pathways/ultrasound-7-reasons-your-developing-baby-says-its-not-safe-or-painless/
No one’s really certain. No one knows for sure what effects ultrasound have on the developing fetus. But since the time when Maureen had her first child, we’ve learned more.
Research is raising questions about the procedure’s safety. In fact, this past December 2014, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued its first ever caution on ultrasound during pregnancy.
http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm095508.htm
Aptly named, ultra-sound waves reach a high frequency of about 20 megahertz or 20 million cycles per second; greater than the upper limit of human hearing. Ultrasound machines adapted for use as a medical test must generate waves only in pulses because one continuous ultrasound wave could produce too much heat potentially damaging the tissue being examined.
-ONE: Ultrasound vibrates the fetus.
Ultrasound waves are vibrations that pass through matter and transfer their energy from one point to another. If there is no physical matter to bounce off, then nothing can vibrate and there is no sound.
TWO: Ultrasound may be loud enough to affect fetal hearing development.
Though ultrasound pulses reach a frequency greater than our ability to hear, researchers demonstrated that the fetus may hear them. Greenleaf, et al from the Department of Basic Ultrasound Research, Mayo Clinic and Foundation in Rochester, Minnesota placed a small hydrophone inside a pregnant woman’s uterus and found…
…the force, from the impact of the ultrasound pulses, produced an audible localized high‐intensity noise due to secondary vibrations in a woman’s uterus.
How loud was this high‐intensity noise? When the ultrasound probe pointed right at the hydrophone, it registered 100 decibels.
Put in perspective: 20 decibels sounds like a whisper, 110 is the average human pain threshold, and 150 decibels is eardrum rupture.
“It’s fairly loud if the probe is aimed right at the ear of the fetus,” says Greenleaf.
THREE: Prolonged use of ultrasound can result in unsafe energy levels.
The FDA is clear – fetal ultrasound Dopplers for use at home could pose risks to your baby. The agency also strongly discourages keepsake ultrasound scans explaining both could expose the fetus to prolonged and unsafe energy levels.
FOUR: Ultrasound is capable of deforming cell membranes.
Dr. Manuel Casanova, M.D., Professor of Anatomical Sciences and Neurobiology at the University of Louisville and the Gottfried and Gisela Kolb Endowed Chair in Outpatient Psychiatry spoke with my friend and author Jennifer Margulis, Ph.D. about ultrasound.
It is precisely because ultrasound can deform cells that, as Dr. Casanova explained, “…the FDA has approved the use of ultrasound for bone fractures because it accelerates cell division, it accelerates healing of the bone.”
FIVE: Ultrasound is capable of deforming brain cell membranes which may lead to autism.
Ultrasound can’t tell the difference between brain cells or other cells. “When it (ultrasound) deforms the membrane of the cell, it activates mechanisms that have to do with cell growth and with cell divisions… Within the brain of autistic individuals there appears to be something that promotes the division of these stem cells…at a time when they shouldn’t be dividing.” Jennifer further discusses ultrasound in her book, The Business of Baby, and wrote more on the subject for the Daily Beast, and for Pathways Magazine
SIX: Yale researchers also found a significant number of neurons failed to acquire their proper position in the brain.
Instead, the neurons remained dispersed throughout, after mice were exposed to ultrasound waves for 30 min or longer. Eugenius, et al, Department of Neurobiology and Kavli Institute for Neuroscience, Yale Medical School, demonstrated that while the amount of scattered neurons was variable, the scatter methodically increased with the duration of ultrasound suggesting long ultrasounds may harm the developing brain.
Yes, ultrasound can affect proper neuron migration to appropriate positions in the developing brain. This process is critical to normal brain function. And we are learning this process is also vulnerable to environmental and physical factors.
“The bottom line is you only get one chance to develop a brain,” Philippe Grandjean, M.D., of the Harvard School of Public Health.
SEVEN: Ultrasound can make tissues hot enough to cause damage.
“Ultrasound can heat tissues slightly, and in some cases, it can also produce very small bubbles (cavitation) in some tissues”, explains FDA biomedical engineer Shahram Vaezy, Ph.D.. The FDA continues its caution with “The long-term effects of tissue heating and cavitation are not known. Therefore, ultrasound scans should be done only when there is a medical need, based on a prescription, and performed by appropriately-trained operators.”
Ultrasound does not improve health for babies.
A case for the procedure can be made for its ability to detect abnormalities early enough for parents to choose to abort, but detection is limited. Of the more than 5,000 potential chromosomal abnormalities, ultrasound can detect only a few like Down’s syndrome. Ultrasound can also misdiagnose abnormalities when there are none, or detect abnormalities about which nothing can be done. Parents may be left with some tough decisions.
http://blog.pathwaystofamilywellness.org/pathways/ultrasound-7-reasons-your-developing-baby-says-its-not-safe-or-painless/
19 May 2017 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Cranial ultrasound is usually only used in babies, whose open fontanelles provide acoustic windows allowing ultrasound imaging of the brain. Advantages include absence of ionising radiation and the possibility of bedside scanning, but the lack of soft-tissue detail means MRI may be preferred for some conditions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroimaging#Cranial_ultrasound
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroimaging#Cranial_ultrasound
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroimaging#Cranial_ultrasound
19 May 2017 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ultrasound thread of some picks to give image of potentials and read between the lines
/ 10 minutes, 16h effect
Pathological effects of ultrasound on the human brain. A study of 25 cases in which ultrasonic irradiation was used as a lobotomy procedure.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14426446
Low intensity ultrasound can produce various effects on biological materials, such as stimulating enzyme activity, cell growth, biosynthesis, etc., which may improve the efficiency of enhanced biological phosphorus removal (EBPR).
“The results showed that the optimal ultrasonic parameters were 0.2 W/cm2 and 10 min under which condition the TP concentration in the effluent was 35-50% lower than that of the control (without ultrasonic irradiation). Changes of sludge activities after ultrasonic irradiation were examined. The improvement of sludge activity by ultrasound took 4 h after irradiation to reach the peak level, when an increase above 50% of DHA has been achieved by ultrasonic irradiation, and the enhancing effects induced by ultrasound disappeared in 16 h after irradiation. “
Effect of low power ultrasonic radiation on anaerobic biodegradability of sewage sludge.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19648002
“By orthogonal tests, the optimal parameters were found to be an exposure time of 15 min, ultrasonic intensity of 0.35 W/cm(2) and ultrasonic power density of 0.25 W/ml. Under the optimal condition, anaerobic biodegradability of sewage sludge (R(vss/ss) %) was increased by 67.6%. “
Pathological effects of ultrasound on the human brain. A study of 25 cases in which ultrasonic irradiation was used as a lobotomy procedure.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14426446 (look related)
Prefrontal ultrasonic irradiation-a substitute for lobotomy.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/13206465 (look related)
/ 10 minutes, 16h effect
Pathological effects of ultrasound on the human brain. A study of 25 cases in which ultrasonic irradiation was used as a lobotomy procedure.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14426446
Low intensity ultrasound can produce various effects on biological materials, such as stimulating enzyme activity, cell growth, biosynthesis, etc., which may improve the efficiency of enhanced biological phosphorus removal (EBPR).
“The results showed that the optimal ultrasonic parameters were 0.2 W/cm2 and 10 min under which condition the TP concentration in the effluent was 35-50% lower than that of the control (without ultrasonic irradiation). Changes of sludge activities after ultrasonic irradiation were examined. The improvement of sludge activity by ultrasound took 4 h after irradiation to reach the peak level, when an increase above 50% of DHA has been achieved by ultrasonic irradiation, and the enhancing effects induced by ultrasound disappeared in 16 h after irradiation. “
Effect of low power ultrasonic radiation on anaerobic biodegradability of sewage sludge.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19648002
“By orthogonal tests, the optimal parameters were found to be an exposure time of 15 min, ultrasonic intensity of 0.35 W/cm(2) and ultrasonic power density of 0.25 W/ml. Under the optimal condition, anaerobic biodegradability of sewage sludge (R(vss/ss) %) was increased by 67.6%. “
Pathological effects of ultrasound on the human brain. A study of 25 cases in which ultrasonic irradiation was used as a lobotomy procedure.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14426446 (look related)
Prefrontal ultrasonic irradiation-a substitute for lobotomy.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/13206465 (look related)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14426446
19 May 2017 01:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The OnionScan Correlation Lab is a rather unique environment. The Lab provides you with a way of uncovering relationships between different onion sites.
The best way to often start is to enter the name of an onion service you are interested in, in the search bar:
http://github.com/s-rah/onionscan/blob/master/doc/correlation-lab.md
You can look around this page and find identifiers and other information that may indicate potential deanonymization vectors.
OnionScan also attempts to highlight the most important information at the top of the page - for example, in the screen above OnionScan has added the page title along with two tags indicating that OnionScan found a mod_status leak on the service in question.
The best way to often start is to enter the name of an onion service you are interested in, in the search bar:
http://github.com/s-rah/onionscan/blob/master/doc/correlation-lab.md
You can look around this page and find identifiers and other information that may indicate potential deanonymization vectors.
OnionScan also attempts to highlight the most important information at the top of the page - for example, in the screen above OnionScan has added the page title along with two tags indicating that OnionScan found a mod_status leak on the service in question.
18 May 2017 23:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sarah website
https://sarahjamielewis.com/
https://sarahjamielewis.com/
https://sarahjamielewis.com/
18 May 2017 23:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"You may already know that OnionScan comes packed with logic for pulling out many different types of identifiers from onion services e.g. bitcoin addresses, pgp keys and email addresses.
However, many services publish data in non-standard formats, making it difficult for any tool to automatically process it.
OnionScan helps solve this problem by providing a way to define custom relationships for each site - these relationships then get imported into it's Correlation Engine letting them be discovered, sorted and correlated like any other identifier.
https://mascherari.press/building-custom-dark-web-bots-with-onionscan-custom-crawls/
However, many services publish data in non-standard formats, making it difficult for any tool to automatically process it.
OnionScan helps solve this problem by providing a way to define custom relationships for each site - these relationships then get imported into it's Correlation Engine letting them be discovered, sorted and correlated like any other identifier.
https://mascherari.press/building-custom-dark-web-bots-with-onionscan-custom-crawls/
https://mascherari.press/building-custom-dark-web-bots-with-onionscan-custom-crawls/
18 May 2017 23:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Dr Gareth Owen: TOR - Attacks and Countermeasures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwawq8PsozU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwawq8PsozU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwawq8PsozU
18 May 2017 23:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mozilla London for International Privacy Day
https://youtu.be/Sf9ZkHX2cWA?t=380
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https://youtu.be/Sf9ZkHX2cWA?t=380
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https://youtu.be/Sf9ZkHX2cWA?t=380
18 May 2017 23:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sarah Jamie Lewis: OnionScan: Practical Deanonymization of Hidden Services
https://youtu.be/r8hr0nlfJRc?t=157
https://youtu.be/r8hr0nlfJRc?t=157
https://youtu.be/r8hr0nlfJRc?t=157
18 May 2017 23:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Talking Behind Your Back (33c3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW1-xnTIDjQ&list=PL0Eu7S5n-Vdd4tRMGhQWOQob0JUl8gQW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW1-xnTIDjQ&list=PL0Eu7S5n-Vdd4tRMGhQWOQob0JUl8gQW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW1-xnTIDjQ&list=PL0Eu7S5n-Vdd4tRMGhQWOQob0JUl8gQW4
18 May 2017 23:04
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's photo.
😋
18 May 2017 19:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Now from all these Rabbi's mentioned in comment,s WHO we know is the real Jew?
If they not a Hassidic.. hard to know...
If they not a Hassidic.. hard to know...
18 May 2017 03:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
also the, hard to excuse list in rational logic, but we have to, once we see how the opponents of Creator of us work
The Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party was made up as follows: NAME NATIONALITY Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew Lourie (Larine) Jew Ouritski Jew Volodarski Jew Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) Jew Smidovitch Jew Sverdlof (Yankel) Jew Nakhamkes (Steklof) Jew Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian Krylenko Russian Lounatcharski Russian
“The Council of the People’s Commissars comprises the following: MINISTRY NAME NATIONALITY President Ulyanov (Lenin) Jew Foreign Affairs Tchitcherine Russian Nationalities Djugashvili (Stalin) Georgian Agriculture Protian Armenian Economic Council Lourie (Larine) Jew Food Schlichter Jew Army & Navy Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew State Control Lander Jew State Lands Kauffman Jew Works V. Schmidt Jew Social Relief E. Lelina (Knigissen) Jewess Public Instruction Lounatcharsky Russian Religions Spitzberg Jew Interior Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew Hygiene Anvelt Jew Finance Isidore Goukovski Jew Press Volodarski Jew Elections Ouritski Jew Justice I. Steinberg Jew Refugees Fenigstein Jew Refugees (assist.) Savitch Jew Refugees (assist.) Zaslovski Jew
“The following is the list of members of the Central Executive Committee: NAME NATIONALITY Sverdlov (president) Jew Avanessof (sec.) Armenian Bruno Lett Babtchinski Jew Bukharin Russian Weinberg Jew Gailiss Jew Ganzburg Jew Danichevski Jew Starck German Sachs Jew Scheinmann Jew Erdling Jew Landauer Jew Linder Jew Wolach Czech Dimanstein Jew Encukidze Georgian Ermann Jew Joffe Jew Karkline Jew Knigissen Jew Rosenfeldt (Kamenef) Jew Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew Krylenko Russian KrassikofSachs Jew Kaprik Jew Kaoul Lett Ulyanov (lenin) Russian Latsis Jew Lander Jew Lounatcharski Russian Peterson Lett Peters Lett Roudzoutas Jew Rosine Jew Smidovitch Jew Stoutchka Lett Nakhamkes (Steklof) Jew Sosnovski Jew Skrytnik Jew Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew Teodorovitch Jew Terian Armenian Ouritski Jew Telechkine Russian Feldmann Jew Froumkine Jew Souriupa Ukranian Tchavtchevadze Georgian Scheikmann Jew Rosental Jew Achkinazi Imeretian Karakhane Karaim (Jew) Rose Jew Sobelson (Radek) Jew Sclichter Jew Schikolini Jew Chklianski Jew Levine (Pravdine) Jew
“The following is the list of members of the Extraordinary Commission of Moscow: NAME NATIONALITY Dzerjinski (president) Pole Peters (vice-president) Lett Chklovski Jew Kheifiss Jew Zeistine Jew Razmirovitch Jew Kronberg Jew Khaikina Jewess Karlson Lett Schaumann Jew Leontovitch Jew Jacob Goldine Jew Glaperstein Jew Kniggisen Jew Latzis Lett Schillenkuss Jew Janson Lett Rivkine Jew Antonof Russian Delafabre Jew Tsitkine Jew Roskirovitch Jew G. Sverdlof Jew Biesenski Jew Blioumkine Jew Alexandrevitch Russian I. Model Jew Routenberg Jew Pines Jew Sachs Jew Daybol Lett Saissoune Armenian Deylkenen Lett Liebert Jew Vogel German Zakiss Lett
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsD8yCcCZ5Y
The Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party was made up as follows: NAME NATIONALITY Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew Lourie (Larine) Jew Ouritski Jew Volodarski Jew Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) Jew Smidovitch Jew Sverdlof (Yankel) Jew Nakhamkes (Steklof) Jew Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian Krylenko Russian Lounatcharski Russian
“The Council of the People’s Commissars comprises the following: MINISTRY NAME NATIONALITY President Ulyanov (Lenin) Jew Foreign Affairs Tchitcherine Russian Nationalities Djugashvili (Stalin) Georgian Agriculture Protian Armenian Economic Council Lourie (Larine) Jew Food Schlichter Jew Army & Navy Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew State Control Lander Jew State Lands Kauffman Jew Works V. Schmidt Jew Social Relief E. Lelina (Knigissen) Jewess Public Instruction Lounatcharsky Russian Religions Spitzberg Jew Interior Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew Hygiene Anvelt Jew Finance Isidore Goukovski Jew Press Volodarski Jew Elections Ouritski Jew Justice I. Steinberg Jew Refugees Fenigstein Jew Refugees (assist.) Savitch Jew Refugees (assist.) Zaslovski Jew
“The following is the list of members of the Central Executive Committee: NAME NATIONALITY Sverdlov (president) Jew Avanessof (sec.) Armenian Bruno Lett Babtchinski Jew Bukharin Russian Weinberg Jew Gailiss Jew Ganzburg Jew Danichevski Jew Starck German Sachs Jew Scheinmann Jew Erdling Jew Landauer Jew Linder Jew Wolach Czech Dimanstein Jew Encukidze Georgian Ermann Jew Joffe Jew Karkline Jew Knigissen Jew Rosenfeldt (Kamenef) Jew Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew Krylenko Russian KrassikofSachs Jew Kaprik Jew Kaoul Lett Ulyanov (lenin) Russian Latsis Jew Lander Jew Lounatcharski Russian Peterson Lett Peters Lett Roudzoutas Jew Rosine Jew Smidovitch Jew Stoutchka Lett Nakhamkes (Steklof) Jew Sosnovski Jew Skrytnik Jew Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew Teodorovitch Jew Terian Armenian Ouritski Jew Telechkine Russian Feldmann Jew Froumkine Jew Souriupa Ukranian Tchavtchevadze Georgian Scheikmann Jew Rosental Jew Achkinazi Imeretian Karakhane Karaim (Jew) Rose Jew Sobelson (Radek) Jew Sclichter Jew Schikolini Jew Chklianski Jew Levine (Pravdine) Jew
“The following is the list of members of the Extraordinary Commission of Moscow: NAME NATIONALITY Dzerjinski (president) Pole Peters (vice-president) Lett Chklovski Jew Kheifiss Jew Zeistine Jew Razmirovitch Jew Kronberg Jew Khaikina Jewess Karlson Lett Schaumann Jew Leontovitch Jew Jacob Goldine Jew Glaperstein Jew Kniggisen Jew Latzis Lett Schillenkuss Jew Janson Lett Rivkine Jew Antonof Russian Delafabre Jew Tsitkine Jew Roskirovitch Jew G. Sverdlof Jew Biesenski Jew Blioumkine Jew Alexandrevitch Russian I. Model Jew Routenberg Jew Pines Jew Sachs Jew Daybol Lett Saissoune Armenian Deylkenen Lett Liebert Jew Vogel German Zakiss Lett
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsD8yCcCZ5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsD8yCcCZ5Y
18 May 2017 03:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Older TV show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLg7WPLcctU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLg7WPLcctU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLg7WPLcctU
18 May 2017 02:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But why THEY wear a Tie..
like we have not learned nothing jet..
is that cyptric ... hope so..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0jlyF5NeR8
like we have not learned nothing jet..
is that cyptric ... hope so..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0jlyF5NeR8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0jlyF5NeR8
18 May 2017 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But hHassidics seems to keep it clear and normal:
https://youtu.be/zpLPgVzRGgY?t=33
https://youtu.be/zpLPgVzRGgY?t=33
https://youtu.be/zpLPgVzRGgY?t=33
18 May 2017 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And this one, is it communist propaganda or what it is, but really popular in some communities in these days:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gf6UAIVeJQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gf6UAIVeJQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gf6UAIVeJQ
18 May 2017 02:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Interesting meta also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpsmRndbQbY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpsmRndbQbY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpsmRndbQbY
18 May 2017 02:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Some more views, by comments, looks good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFDvtzwT-TU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFDvtzwT-TU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFDvtzwT-TU
18 May 2017 02:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hes plans was NOTHING by far of from "impossible"
but was really modest compared to what was and have been possible.
Just some toy's boy's needed to build for psychological reasons,
But as it is, he did what he needed, he stopped complete elimination of God loving people by making all what they did, as this was near final plan, of opponents, as the power was on epic scale and plans was unstoppable and have been, from these beings, who also... have plants in heights of stars...
but we need a land.
Why people have so hard time to focus to what is needed, what is important, focus on WHAT IS hidden from You (or confused, in purpose not told good things. ) in purpose to deevolve humans, and look THIS as info we need to know.
People seems have NO near clue AT ALL what Germany did for a world so we can have this world what we have now, with open INTERNET and respect for nature an women as normality,
with out this horrible events, in what Germany sacrificed it self,
we all would have been eliminated surely in much more greater extent.
Also Adolf for sure (okey, probably) saved in the end more true Jews then there would have been without Him , as he's core was NOT to eliminate Hebrew, but the core of evil networks, by starting highest level people who sold their soul so to say
but was really modest compared to what was and have been possible.
Just some toy's boy's needed to build for psychological reasons,
But as it is, he did what he needed, he stopped complete elimination of God loving people by making all what they did, as this was near final plan, of opponents, as the power was on epic scale and plans was unstoppable and have been, from these beings, who also... have plants in heights of stars...
but we need a land.
Why people have so hard time to focus to what is needed, what is important, focus on WHAT IS hidden from You (or confused, in purpose not told good things. ) in purpose to deevolve humans, and look THIS as info we need to know.
People seems have NO near clue AT ALL what Germany did for a world so we can have this world what we have now, with open INTERNET and respect for nature an women as normality,
with out this horrible events, in what Germany sacrificed it self,
we all would have been eliminated surely in much more greater extent.
Also Adolf for sure (okey, probably) saved in the end more true Jews then there would have been without Him , as he's core was NOT to eliminate Hebrew, but the core of evil networks, by starting highest level people who sold their soul so to say
18 May 2017 02:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
It was not about Jew's who he try to eliminate, this is basic.
As i told, we have to listen THIS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo to even basically understand WHY Hitler, BECAUSE people turned away from a God,
Well, he was really modest in "delusions" and "paranoia" the realty was much more greater insane,
He was used tools what he needed for what he needed for this kind of job,
Addiction in bad way is when You see it hurting a person ability to do what he wants, none of these addictions (that was based on doctors this time recommendations) show him NEWER being out of touch with what he told and did for as long i have seen.
As i told, we have to listen THIS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo to even basically understand WHY Hitler, BECAUSE people turned away from a God,
Well, he was really modest in "delusions" and "paranoia" the realty was much more greater insane,
He was used tools what he needed for what he needed for this kind of job,
Addiction in bad way is when You see it hurting a person ability to do what he wants, none of these addictions (that was based on doctors this time recommendations) show him NEWER being out of touch with what he told and did for as long i have seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo
18 May 2017 02:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
No idea what you meant by the theory, i am pro Jew and pro Adolf,
more of pro Jew
but he at least did a lot, what nearly no rulers have dare not in this planet: force humans to be with a good soul.
Force them to respect and understand animals.
He was just drifted off track, and should have take more words on it.. but it was hard on meat eating land.. but with example he set a standard
And top of health benefits, he was in to vegetarianism in mystical and higher dimensional reason, and this alone, rules out most of the fears what he might have been or done, as these kind of things, can not be thinked or be done by man involved with another type of higher thinking, it just does not fit in to their mind.
It is just clear impossible
Unless direct overtake of body / soul
Rooma impeerium, kommunistid, kes süvatsi juute hävitada soovisid, liitusid võtsjuudi võrgustikudega, kes siis oma plaane edasi ellu viisid, ja nagu rabbid ise ka aru saavad ja räägivad, et kommunism on vastaspool Jumalale
:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo
more of pro Jew
but he at least did a lot, what nearly no rulers have dare not in this planet: force humans to be with a good soul.
Force them to respect and understand animals.
He was just drifted off track, and should have take more words on it.. but it was hard on meat eating land.. but with example he set a standard
And top of health benefits, he was in to vegetarianism in mystical and higher dimensional reason, and this alone, rules out most of the fears what he might have been or done, as these kind of things, can not be thinked or be done by man involved with another type of higher thinking, it just does not fit in to their mind.
It is just clear impossible
Unless direct overtake of body / soul
Rooma impeerium, kommunistid, kes süvatsi juute hävitada soovisid, liitusid võtsjuudi võrgustikudega, kes siis oma plaane edasi ellu viisid, ja nagu rabbid ise ka aru saavad ja räägivad, et kommunism on vastaspool Jumalale
:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo
18 May 2017 02:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Laurie Colson point is what he dared to stand for publicly, as massive unneeded meat eating by humans is one of the core evils of earth, that holds the forces we struggling against, alive.
As long they trick humans to eat meat, besides being able to hide them self, better, more forces get a right to deal with humans in-another level same way seems logical, and self karma .
About "lampshades", well, we can go so low, to use these kind of stories as any kind of realistic fact,
we have to use logic and mind in here, besides heart also,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lampshades_made_from_human_skin
When people get trap in to this kind of propaganda, where some rare perverts who lived in this world there got a proposed and manufactured spotlight by "liberal media" to tie it some how with Adolf, for known reasons,
It is not so difficult to see, that he would have eliminated any this kind of sicko fast,
but as True evil need to , needed to manufacture some other evil so people would look in to wrong direction, so it was and has been done.
We know it as in here, we even got proof of "nazi airplanes" that bombed civilians or made burning camps in "nazi uniform",
But when investigators happened to look in to one of the shoot down plane internal, come out it was made in Russia, imitation of Nazi plane. of this same reason.. same way the burning camps uniform when investigated from images, come out, was a fake uniform..
So an when You even have just FEW examples like that, this should help to think, what else, is...
As long they trick humans to eat meat, besides being able to hide them self, better, more forces get a right to deal with humans in-another level same way seems logical, and self karma .
About "lampshades", well, we can go so low, to use these kind of stories as any kind of realistic fact,
we have to use logic and mind in here, besides heart also,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lampshades_made_from_human_skin
When people get trap in to this kind of propaganda, where some rare perverts who lived in this world there got a proposed and manufactured spotlight by "liberal media" to tie it some how with Adolf, for known reasons,
It is not so difficult to see, that he would have eliminated any this kind of sicko fast,
but as True evil need to , needed to manufacture some other evil so people would look in to wrong direction, so it was and has been done.
We know it as in here, we even got proof of "nazi airplanes" that bombed civilians or made burning camps in "nazi uniform",
But when investigators happened to look in to one of the shoot down plane internal, come out it was made in Russia, imitation of Nazi plane. of this same reason.. same way the burning camps uniform when investigated from images, come out, was a fake uniform..
So an when You even have just FEW examples like that, this should help to think, what else, is...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lampshades_made_from_human_skin
18 May 2017 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on Oliver Lepik's post.
Oo millist mussi Sa kuulad : )
18 May 2017 01:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
compared to the actual worry, this is just a side note..
compared to the situation 's that seem to be actually happening
compared to the situation 's that seem to be actually happening
18 May 2017 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But just to remember that.. he got right to declassify a lot so..
Well, and i would Not say, that was wrong to share this info to Russians (who's army in some part more then HALF is made up of Muslims and who s's global agenda tools include activation of Muslim issue in West, and turn them in to as anti western minded as possible... )
but well, just telling i think intel sharing is great and showing of some "hard" info as simple info that is just meta data, is also good tactic to help progress along,
Well, and i would Not say, that was wrong to share this info to Russians (who's army in some part more then HALF is made up of Muslims and who s's global agenda tools include activation of Muslim issue in West, and turn them in to as anti western minded as possible... )
but well, just telling i think intel sharing is great and showing of some "hard" info as simple info that is just meta data, is also good tactic to help progress along,
18 May 2017 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// TO make peoples and facts lists
18 May 2017 01:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Wave not been finished this one, as no professional on these infos, besides that it is not just earthly..
But just by the normal facts, for the ones who are tuned in to this .. what You say, what is it?
Worth doc ?
But just by the normal facts, for the ones who are tuned in to this .. what You say, what is it?
Worth doc ?
18 May 2017 01:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
On minute 4
www.youtu.be/YNVqbcrWFII?t=222
www.youtu.be/YNVqbcrWFII?t=222
http://www.youtu.be/YNVqbcrWFII?t=222
18 May 2017 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Well, wording is again, a bit off..
These sides to take here is so confusing as liberals them self not understand at times, that real liberals was them-self the ones who sabotaged Hillary,
most of the anti Hillary champaign was based on and flow on liberal nation and tactics so clear.
And for some reason, they was not talking about what it is really about but focused on hard to prove conspiracy or attention, diversion traps .
And first of all, in large scale, this who invented liberalism, elitism, communism, these people are the ones who are on the side of Trump,
he just turned table around and took the things what should be against him and made them in to things like what for he stands for.
This is another example what is possible, if people really focus and when roman empire becomes under-threat, that someones get in to power who might challenge their millenniums long rule
These sides to take here is so confusing as liberals them self not understand at times, that real liberals was them-self the ones who sabotaged Hillary,
most of the anti Hillary champaign was based on and flow on liberal nation and tactics so clear.
And for some reason, they was not talking about what it is really about but focused on hard to prove conspiracy or attention, diversion traps .
And first of all, in large scale, this who invented liberalism, elitism, communism, these people are the ones who are on the side of Trump,
he just turned table around and took the things what should be against him and made them in to things like what for he stands for.
This is another example what is possible, if people really focus and when roman empire becomes under-threat, that someones get in to power who might challenge their millenniums long rule
18 May 2017 01:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And the.
http://addictinginfo.com/2017/05/16/trump-sends-out-email-begging-supporters-to-send-him-money-to-defend-against-his-scandals/
http://addictinginfo.com/2017/05/16/trump-sends-out-email-begging-supporters-to-send-him-money-to-defend-against-his-scandals/
http://addictinginfo.com/2017/05/16/trump-sends-out-email-begging-supporters-to-send-him-money-to-defend-against-his-scandals/
18 May 2017 01:04
Margus Meigo commented on Derek Ryter's post.
Group: The Idiocy Of Donald Trump's America
On minute 4
https://youtu.be/YNVqbcrWFII?t=22218 May 2017 00:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Eestimaa Transport & Turism
oleks siis veel õhus vuhisev magnetrong või..18 May 2017 00:24
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Tuisk's post.
Group: Eestimaa Transport & Turism
Ohtlikud tegelased jah näe
Kuid nagu ega peatada seda ruadteed lihtne, paarkümment eestlast jugeks öelda, et nad selle rongi pihta süütepudeleid ja kivisi rööbastele vedama hakkavad, lisaks nende Eestlastega arveid klaarimine kes seda ehitavad...
Ja investorid olekski läinud kui seda lugu veel õigesti sõttida, et see õigesse kohta läheks..18 May 2017 00:24
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Tuisk's post.
Group: Peatame sõja!
Valus,
veider ka, et keegi pole ette võtnud selliseid tõsisemalt. nagu ta sõber kes avalikult sõnaotsesesmõttes lastele satanismi värbamise blogipostitusi teeb..18 May 2017 00:21
Margus Meigo commented on Olle Kitsing's post.
Group: Ubuntu Eesti
Kodukohapõhine elamine ühesõnaga.
Et juurte juurde uuesti kuidas asjad algusest peale olnud on
___
Rääkides ubuntust, millegipärast kommenteerides avastasin just, kui valin "US keyboard with Estonia letters" siis täpitähti pole, õnneks Estonia enda setting need ikka annab :p18 May 2017 00:04
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
Nu Vaatame
17 May 2017 18:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
in this society to protect them self fro ma human, they even as last resorts, have implemented these kind of barriers,
to make look world correctors as loonies.
/// Word, quixotic: extremely idealistic
synonyms: idealistic, unbusinesslike, romantic, extravagant, visionary, perfectionist...
// these words can also be expressed by parallel less nice words.
to make look world correctors as loonies.
/// Word, quixotic: extremely idealistic
synonyms: idealistic, unbusinesslike, romantic, extravagant, visionary, perfectionist...
// these words can also be expressed by parallel less nice words.
17 May 2017 03:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just reading a bit more, of him, not sure fully, is he humorously self ironic OR about to fall in scava Disorder (Snide Caviling And Vitriolic Aggression) and try to be ironic...
or 2 at same time
http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/jaime-oneill/67934/a-word-to-wise-women-don-t-hump-those-who-vote-trump
( A Word to Wise Women: Don’t Hump Those Who Vote Donald J. Trump
// Well, elementary that if we use Trump as a metaphor for Wrong, this is one way that seems to be helping a lot, fastest, if women will start to let man know, why some other man in a dreams are better.
He, Jaime O'Neill is ending up:
"And just to show you that I'm sincere, I, too, will pledge to deny my manly essence, my precious bodily fluids to any potential sexual partner who informs me that Hillary is even worse than Trump, that he or she would never vote for Hillary because the "lesser of two evils is still evil," or that at least Trump isn't beholden to any special interests. After all, I wouldn't want to risk fathering a kid with anyone that fuckin' dumb, nor give pleasure to anyone so clueless. "
// So i can not Even still, make up, on what side is he fully on and .. some sides he is a bit to cynical some sides a bit to
But as it is Almost assumable, that he thinks it is appropriate to compare situation as "two evils" then he might be not matriarcic
http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/jaime-oneill/67934/a-word-to-wise-women-don-t-hump-those-who-vote-trump (and hey, Eve helped You do do what for Go made You )
or 2 at same time
http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/jaime-oneill/67934/a-word-to-wise-women-don-t-hump-those-who-vote-trump
( A Word to Wise Women: Don’t Hump Those Who Vote Donald J. Trump
// Well, elementary that if we use Trump as a metaphor for Wrong, this is one way that seems to be helping a lot, fastest, if women will start to let man know, why some other man in a dreams are better.
He, Jaime O'Neill is ending up:
"And just to show you that I'm sincere, I, too, will pledge to deny my manly essence, my precious bodily fluids to any potential sexual partner who informs me that Hillary is even worse than Trump, that he or she would never vote for Hillary because the "lesser of two evils is still evil," or that at least Trump isn't beholden to any special interests. After all, I wouldn't want to risk fathering a kid with anyone that fuckin' dumb, nor give pleasure to anyone so clueless. "
// So i can not Even still, make up, on what side is he fully on and .. some sides he is a bit to cynical some sides a bit to
But as it is Almost assumable, that he thinks it is appropriate to compare situation as "two evils" then he might be not matriarcic
http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/jaime-oneill/67934/a-word-to-wise-women-don-t-hump-those-who-vote-trump (and hey, Eve helped You do do what for Go made You )
http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/jaime-oneill/67934/a-word-to-wise-women-don-t-hump-those-who-vote-trump
17 May 2017 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
When Rabbi starts with explanation, will wipe away the sickness in a people by stating : "You obviously have a strong sense of justice, of right and wrong, and that’s admirable"
.:. But when secular science people talk about it, then on the side of the doctors, scientist and society it can be summed up with that piece of writing:
"Geriatric Quixotic Logorrhea Disorder (GQLD) "
"If you know people who are dealing with this devastating malady, you may want to screen your calls before picking up the phone, or before opening one of their emails. Urging them to get help is generally ineffective because one symptom of the disease is the delusion that other people don't know shit unless they recognize the superior brilliance and clear mental health of the GQLD sufferer"
http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/jaime-oneill/62376/geriatric-quixotic-logorrhea-disorder-gqld-a-living-hell
Rabbi Manis Friedman
.:. But when secular science people talk about it, then on the side of the doctors, scientist and society it can be summed up with that piece of writing:
"Geriatric Quixotic Logorrhea Disorder (GQLD) "
"If you know people who are dealing with this devastating malady, you may want to screen your calls before picking up the phone, or before opening one of their emails. Urging them to get help is generally ineffective because one symptom of the disease is the delusion that other people don't know shit unless they recognize the superior brilliance and clear mental health of the GQLD sufferer"
http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/jaime-oneill/62376/geriatric-quixotic-logorrhea-disorder-gqld-a-living-hell
Rabbi Manis Friedman
http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/jaime-oneill/62376/geriatric-quixotic-logorrhea-disorder-gqld-a-living-hell
17 May 2017 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to Marge Karin's comment.
Kui jõuluimet uskuda, siis võibpalju juhtuda
16 May 2017 22:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tegelikult peab veel mainima, et iseenesest see starmanni koduneti teenus, wifi GSM ruuteriga, on maruhea teenus ikka.
16 May 2017 11:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Loodusaustus, Kanepiseeme - ülitervislik ja täisväärtuslik ning väga mitmekesine
Meie esivanematel oli mitu tavapärast kanepitoitu: kanepitemp, -piim ja -puder. Need olid rohkem levinud just Lõuna- ja Ida-Eestis. 19. sajandi lõpus hakkas kanepikasvatus tasapisi vähenema ning kanepist valmistatud toidud kaotasid järk-järgult oma tähtsuse.
Söögiks valmistati kõige sagedamini kanepitempi ehk jurssi. Selleks pruunistati kanepiseemned pannil või pajas ning tambiti seejärel uhmris puderjaks õliseks massiks. Et eraldada terveid seemneid, sõeluti purustatud mass mõned korrad läbi. Lõpuks lisati soola, koort, teraviljajahu ja praetud sibulat. Jurssi söödi kas leivale määritult või kartuli juurde.
Kanepipiima tegu alustati samuti seemnete purukstampimisest. Seejärel lisati niipalju vett, et tekkis piimasarnane valkjas vedelik. Seemnekestad kurnati välja. Seda piima pandi suppidele ja anti ka tõelise piima aseaineks, kui lehmad kinni olid. Kanepipiima tehti sageli urbepäevaks (nädal enne lihavõttepühi).
Veel tehti kanepi- ja teravilja segajahust putru. Mõnes piirkonnas olid tuntud ka kanepipirukad: rukkileivatainast pirukate sisuks pandi purustatud kanepiseemned. Sageli valmistati eraldi väike kanepipirukas karjapoisile. Kuid kanepiseemnetest saab teisigi küpsetisi. Näiteks udmurtidel on levinud kanepikorbid, kus purustatud kanepiseemnete mass annabki korbi sisu. Mari rahvatraditsioonis on hinnatud kanepileivad, mille valmistamiseks segatakse kanepijahu esmalt riivitud tahke leivaga, siis vormitakse kakud, mis lõpuks küpsetatakse.
Kas ja kuidas kanepiseemneid mujal maailmas süüakse? Nüüdisaja toitumisteadmiste valguses on kanepiseemned toiduainena mitmel pool maailmas taas hinda tõusnud. Põhiline suundumus on lisada kanepiseemnetest eraldatud kasulikke koostisosi (peamiselt polüküllastamata rasvhappeid) erisugustele toitudele. Kuid armastatakse ka seemnetest endist valmistatud roogi. Näiteks Sileesias on ammustest aegadest hinnatud kanepisuppi, Hiinas süüakse röstitud kanepiseemneid, slaavi rahvatraditsioonis hinnatakse kõrgelt kanepivõid, paljudes Aasia riikides tehakse teraviljade ja kanepijahu segust mitmesuguseid küpsetisi või lisatakse õli- ja valgurikast kanepimassi teistele toiduainetele, et suurendada nende toiteväärtust. Maailma rikkalikus toiduvalikus on toitvatel kanepiseemnetel oma osa ka vahvlites, kompvekkides, makaronitoodetes, küpsistes, müslibatoonides, jäätistes, juustudes ja isegi teatud õllesortides.
Urmas Kokassaar (1963) on Tartu ülikooli molekulaar- ja rakubioloogia instituudi lektor. Biokeemikuna avaldanud palju artikleid toidu ja toitumise teemal.
Urmas Kokassaar
www.pihlaka.eu/index.php?p=1_17_Kanep
allikas: http://www.loodusajakiri.ee/eesti_loodus/index.php?artikkel=485
Meie esivanematel oli mitu tavapärast kanepitoitu: kanepitemp, -piim ja -puder. Need olid rohkem levinud just Lõuna- ja Ida-Eestis. 19. sajandi lõpus hakkas kanepikasvatus tasapisi vähenema ning kanepist valmistatud toidud kaotasid järk-järgult oma tähtsuse.
Söögiks valmistati kõige sagedamini kanepitempi ehk jurssi. Selleks pruunistati kanepiseemned pannil või pajas ning tambiti seejärel uhmris puderjaks õliseks massiks. Et eraldada terveid seemneid, sõeluti purustatud mass mõned korrad läbi. Lõpuks lisati soola, koort, teraviljajahu ja praetud sibulat. Jurssi söödi kas leivale määritult või kartuli juurde.
Kanepipiima tegu alustati samuti seemnete purukstampimisest. Seejärel lisati niipalju vett, et tekkis piimasarnane valkjas vedelik. Seemnekestad kurnati välja. Seda piima pandi suppidele ja anti ka tõelise piima aseaineks, kui lehmad kinni olid. Kanepipiima tehti sageli urbepäevaks (nädal enne lihavõttepühi).
Veel tehti kanepi- ja teravilja segajahust putru. Mõnes piirkonnas olid tuntud ka kanepipirukad: rukkileivatainast pirukate sisuks pandi purustatud kanepiseemned. Sageli valmistati eraldi väike kanepipirukas karjapoisile. Kuid kanepiseemnetest saab teisigi küpsetisi. Näiteks udmurtidel on levinud kanepikorbid, kus purustatud kanepiseemnete mass annabki korbi sisu. Mari rahvatraditsioonis on hinnatud kanepileivad, mille valmistamiseks segatakse kanepijahu esmalt riivitud tahke leivaga, siis vormitakse kakud, mis lõpuks küpsetatakse.
Kas ja kuidas kanepiseemneid mujal maailmas süüakse? Nüüdisaja toitumisteadmiste valguses on kanepiseemned toiduainena mitmel pool maailmas taas hinda tõusnud. Põhiline suundumus on lisada kanepiseemnetest eraldatud kasulikke koostisosi (peamiselt polüküllastamata rasvhappeid) erisugustele toitudele. Kuid armastatakse ka seemnetest endist valmistatud roogi. Näiteks Sileesias on ammustest aegadest hinnatud kanepisuppi, Hiinas süüakse röstitud kanepiseemneid, slaavi rahvatraditsioonis hinnatakse kõrgelt kanepivõid, paljudes Aasia riikides tehakse teraviljade ja kanepijahu segust mitmesuguseid küpsetisi või lisatakse õli- ja valgurikast kanepimassi teistele toiduainetele, et suurendada nende toiteväärtust. Maailma rikkalikus toiduvalikus on toitvatel kanepiseemnetel oma osa ka vahvlites, kompvekkides, makaronitoodetes, küpsistes, müslibatoonides, jäätistes, juustudes ja isegi teatud õllesortides.
Urmas Kokassaar (1963) on Tartu ülikooli molekulaar- ja rakubioloogia instituudi lektor. Biokeemikuna avaldanud palju artikleid toidu ja toitumise teemal.
Urmas Kokassaar
www.pihlaka.eu/index.php?p=1_17_Kanep
allikas: http://www.loodusajakiri.ee/eesti_loodus/index.php?artikkel=485
http://www.pihlaka.eu/index.php?p=1_17_Kanep
16 May 2017 02:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Veel kaks head loodustoodete poodi,
Looduspere: https://www.looduspere.ee/ ja Parivere Pihlaka Talu
Looduspere: https://www.looduspere.ee/ ja Parivere Pihlaka Talu
https://www.looduspere.ee/
16 May 2017 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Olen isegi rääkinud inimestega, kes veendunult teatsid endal ÜLIKOOLI teadmised olla, keemias ja muus, ning nad siirameeli, väitsid, et valgel ja roosuhkrul sama mõju kehale.
Täiesti vapustav loogilisuse puudumus,
isegi lihtsat testi, enamasti polda nõus proovima, anna 20 nele lapsele ja täiskasvanule 12, 15 päeva järjest pool klaasi valget sukrut ja teisele grupile pruuni,
aspartaani armastajad võivad kolmandaks katsegruppiks astuda, mis siis võrdväärne tolle kemikali maht oleks poole valge klaasi kohta.
Panuseid tõstes, kuna pruun osade arvates vähem tugevam, tõstame igapäevase ruuni suhkru koguse suuremakski.
--
Minul endal piisab 2,3 päeva järjest süüa valge suhkruga asja kui kindlad märgid kohe näha on mis pruuniga pole nagu esile tulnud.
Vahe sest vast üks on ikkagi taimele lähemal ja lisaks, kuna ma taimetoiduline siis ei pruugi see lehma kondipuru ja väävli filtritega töödeldud kristallid mulle hästi vaimselt mõjuda..
---
Vaimsusest ja hästi elamisest, veel muide enamus Skiso muresi inimestel saab tugevalt eemaldada või ravile allutada kui likvideerida see kuri versioon suhkrust (ja veel propakanda kanalid ka, need teistmoodi kahjulikud mõistustele kuid see juba omamoodi teema, mis ka saab korda tehtud, nii, et vana hea ka alles jääks, külajutud peavad jääma ja maamehe julgus)
Täiesti vapustav loogilisuse puudumus,
isegi lihtsat testi, enamasti polda nõus proovima, anna 20 nele lapsele ja täiskasvanule 12, 15 päeva järjest pool klaasi valget sukrut ja teisele grupile pruuni,
aspartaani armastajad võivad kolmandaks katsegruppiks astuda, mis siis võrdväärne tolle kemikali maht oleks poole valge klaasi kohta.
Panuseid tõstes, kuna pruun osade arvates vähem tugevam, tõstame igapäevase ruuni suhkru koguse suuremakski.
--
Minul endal piisab 2,3 päeva järjest süüa valge suhkruga asja kui kindlad märgid kohe näha on mis pruuniga pole nagu esile tulnud.
Vahe sest vast üks on ikkagi taimele lähemal ja lisaks, kuna ma taimetoiduline siis ei pruugi see lehma kondipuru ja väävli filtritega töödeldud kristallid mulle hästi vaimselt mõjuda..
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Vaimsusest ja hästi elamisest, veel muide enamus Skiso muresi inimestel saab tugevalt eemaldada või ravile allutada kui likvideerida see kuri versioon suhkrust (ja veel propakanda kanalid ka, need teistmoodi kahjulikud mõistustele kuid see juba omamoodi teema, mis ka saab korda tehtud, nii, et vana hea ka alles jääks, külajutud peavad jääma ja maamehe julgus)
16 May 2017 02:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey lets read poems instead
http://luuletus.www.ee/?query=elada&lang=EST
http://luuletus.www.ee/?query=elada&lang=EST
http://luuletus.www.ee/?query=elada&lang=EST
16 May 2017 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Tibert's comment.
And wood is on the top of any material for me,
16 May 2017 02:32
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Aaslo's post.
Group: Poliitikast ja elust - Arutleme vabalt
Oot muidu .com on inimestega http://www.looduspere.ee/ st ka tuttavad?http://www.looduspere.ee/
16 May 2017 02:25
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Tibert's comment.
With right kind of hammer of Justice we can perhaps heal giants heads ...
16 May 2017 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
But in basic, Hammer time
http://www.sheknows.com/baby-names/name/marcus
http://www.sheknows.com/baby-names/name/marcus
http://www.sheknows.com/baby-names/name/marcus
16 May 2017 02:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(so would become better what is )
16 May 2017 01:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and not no feelings as would lacking of any,
just is more practical and sensible to keep it as low as can
just is more practical and sensible to keep it as low as can
16 May 2017 01:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but with intelligence
consideration
consideration
16 May 2017 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but all do want a love
also so that each-other would have
also so that each-other would have
16 May 2017 01:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
itaalia ise muidu ise valitsuse tasemel siis polegi maafia või?
Minuarust sääl olles sai selgeks, et koostöö on sõbralik
Minuarust sääl olles sai selgeks, et koostöö on sõbralik
15 May 2017 21:13
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Aaslo's post.
nu vähemalt keegigi võtab juhtimise omapealew
15 May 2017 21:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eesti Mees Rootsis tõsi ta on, aga mitte naerukoht
15 May 2017 15:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More talk on it
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3eyqd9/its_been_three_years_since_gnome_40_was_proposed/
https://iwf1.com/gtk-gnome-4/
https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120402#humour
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3eyqd9/its_been_three_years_since_gnome_40_was_proposed/
https://iwf1.com/gtk-gnome-4/
https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120402#humour
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3eyqd9/its_been_three_years_since_gnome_40_was_proposed/
15 May 2017 11:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Got that moves Antti?
15 May 2017 09:31
Margus Meigo replied to Minna Arvila's comment.
Looking worth the legend!
How is Antti doing now ?
I just kind of wake a late and moving to next place in country side,
kind of have stay in around Lihula but move away now to more country side, where mother lives,
and then perhaps to a Philippines, maybe (for sure).
How is Antti doing now ?
I just kind of wake a late and moving to next place in country side,
kind of have stay in around Lihula but move away now to more country side, where mother lives,
and then perhaps to a Philippines, maybe (for sure).
15 May 2017 09:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jumalast hea selgitus tuli,
asja osas mida selgitada proovin ja mis tuli ise naturaalselt:
Mulle öeldi hea suhtlussemu poolt:
"ma arvan et ma olen eriliselt vasakliberalne kommunist. Aga ma näe valiks ultraparempoolset Ekret. "
// ehk sis nagu ütlesin, see asi, on sedasi, et südamik ei ole väga parempoolne, see asi on nagu pool digitaalselt kokku pandud selle asja arvatvaks imitatsiooniks mis parempoolsus olema peaks (vasakute arvates, ja selliselt, et meile endile ka meeldiks).
Ja siinkohal, lisaks sellele et vasak enamus pool ja väike osa paremekstreemsusest on Juutide illusiooni osas kriitiline (muidugi juutide illusiooni, sest päris juudi vastu ei saa inimene olla ju sellistel tasemetel, ku iaru saavad kes ja mis juut on )
Kuid jha, olulisust tuleb osata arvata ja arendad
// need alad siin, mida ise suht madalast teadvusest kirjutanud, kuid mida pärast edasi arendada proovib
asja osas mida selgitada proovin ja mis tuli ise naturaalselt:
Mulle öeldi hea suhtlussemu poolt:
"ma arvan et ma olen eriliselt vasakliberalne kommunist. Aga ma näe valiks ultraparempoolset Ekret. "
// ehk sis nagu ütlesin, see asi, on sedasi, et südamik ei ole väga parempoolne, see asi on nagu pool digitaalselt kokku pandud selle asja arvatvaks imitatsiooniks mis parempoolsus olema peaks (vasakute arvates, ja selliselt, et meile endile ka meeldiks).
Ja siinkohal, lisaks sellele et vasak enamus pool ja väike osa paremekstreemsusest on Juutide illusiooni osas kriitiline (muidugi juutide illusiooni, sest päris juudi vastu ei saa inimene olla ju sellistel tasemetel, ku iaru saavad kes ja mis juut on )
Kuid jha, olulisust tuleb osata arvata ja arendad
// need alad siin, mida ise suht madalast teadvusest kirjutanud, kuid mida pärast edasi arendada proovib
15 May 2017 00:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(vb me hingel on pismtist midagi televisooni eelarvamustega, sellepärast see teema vaheletuli)
14 May 2017 22:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jah, kui elulaad on selline, et elemendid ja armastus ja muu hea mis Jumala looming, on elementaarne elukooslus, siis see tõesti ei ole ühe väikse olulise asja sisu ainuüksi.
Nagu kui räägime Televisioonist, sis vist ei saa ainult rääkida, ETV'st kuigi ta on meie kultuuri televisiooni kese mida hoidma peame ja millele mõtlema kuid see ei tähenda, et me hästi kursis olla ei saaks või ära kaoksime, kui üksikult seda ei vaata ja muidu targalt elavad,
Või nagu meie uudiste kese, informatsiooni kese kultuuriliste väärtuste ja maailmapildi osas peaks olema ERR kuid kui räägime kogu meediast millega vaja tegeleda on, siis me ei saa tegeleda ainult ERR iga vaid selle massiga mida teised toodavad, et ennast uppumise eest päästa, et kogu kooslust mis vaatab palju seda mida nad ei mõista, saaks aitama nii mõistmises kui ka nägemises, ulatamaks tasuta neile tööriistadki asjade hõlbustamiseks, (nagu ERR suure osa arhiivist vaatamata andmekaitse hirmudele on onlaini saadavale tehtud, et need kes mõistaks saaksid endale kuulata ja laadida.. kuni veel saab)
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Tasulised tööriistad ka veel püüdlikumatele, mida veel ei saa tasuta asjaenese elushoidmiseks jagada lõpmatuseni (osasi Väga suurt kasu tegevaid asju saab jagada tasuta ja need lausa säästavad energiat ja aega ning toovad kasu samal ajal, nagu weebilehtedel head organiseeritus ja Täg cloud mis intelligentselt üles seatud, et inimene kiiremini leiaks mis oluline ja vajalik ja mida oleks eeltatavasti tal tänuväärne näha)
Nagu kui räägime Televisioonist, sis vist ei saa ainult rääkida, ETV'st kuigi ta on meie kultuuri televisiooni kese mida hoidma peame ja millele mõtlema kuid see ei tähenda, et me hästi kursis olla ei saaks või ära kaoksime, kui üksikult seda ei vaata ja muidu targalt elavad,
Või nagu meie uudiste kese, informatsiooni kese kultuuriliste väärtuste ja maailmapildi osas peaks olema ERR kuid kui räägime kogu meediast millega vaja tegeleda on, siis me ei saa tegeleda ainult ERR iga vaid selle massiga mida teised toodavad, et ennast uppumise eest päästa, et kogu kooslust mis vaatab palju seda mida nad ei mõista, saaks aitama nii mõistmises kui ka nägemises, ulatamaks tasuta neile tööriistadki asjade hõlbustamiseks, (nagu ERR suure osa arhiivist vaatamata andmekaitse hirmudele on onlaini saadavale tehtud, et need kes mõistaks saaksid endale kuulata ja laadida.. kuni veel saab)
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Tasulised tööriistad ka veel püüdlikumatele, mida veel ei saa tasuta asjaenese elushoidmiseks jagada lõpmatuseni (osasi Väga suurt kasu tegevaid asju saab jagada tasuta ja need lausa säästavad energiat ja aega ning toovad kasu samal ajal, nagu weebilehtedel head organiseeritus ja Täg cloud mis intelligentselt üles seatud, et inimene kiiremini leiaks mis oluline ja vajalik ja mida oleks eeltatavasti tal tänuväärne näha)
14 May 2017 22:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(kultuuriline sünteetilise armastuse näide on kommunism)
14 May 2017 22:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sest, ma samalajal toetan ka eraldumise meelestatust,,
et nendesilmis, nende kirjas kes on sünteetilises armastuses,
kas ja kuidas nemad peaksid sellest lahti saama kes neile tagasi ei olegi kunagi loodud armastust andma pidevalt, et seda kasvatada uuele tasemelegi, vaid käituvad, kooselajaga nagu nad oleksid lüpsilehamlt, kellelt to siis aegajalt saab mida Tal vaja, ja siis karjatab ja toidab sind vastutasuks, pakub katust, kuid ega ära ka minna päris ei lase...
Et selliste kooslustesolijaid, ka nimetatakse, usutakse olema armastuses, kuid need on selised vaimsed päitsed mis samamoodi toimivad, nagu mis hobusele pannakse, mis selle naise kasvõi muus ilmas ette allutab lepetega, et ta siin selle elutukõrval püsiks ja oma energia ja muud väed annaks selleks milleks vaja on suurematel olevustel kes hingetute inimeste kehasi kasutavad selleks
et nendesilmis, nende kirjas kes on sünteetilises armastuses,
kas ja kuidas nemad peaksid sellest lahti saama kes neile tagasi ei olegi kunagi loodud armastust andma pidevalt, et seda kasvatada uuele tasemelegi, vaid käituvad, kooselajaga nagu nad oleksid lüpsilehamlt, kellelt to siis aegajalt saab mida Tal vaja, ja siis karjatab ja toidab sind vastutasuks, pakub katust, kuid ega ära ka minna päris ei lase...
Et selliste kooslustesolijaid, ka nimetatakse, usutakse olema armastuses, kuid need on selised vaimsed päitsed mis samamoodi toimivad, nagu mis hobusele pannakse, mis selle naise kasvõi muus ilmas ette allutab lepetega, et ta siin selle elutukõrval püsiks ja oma energia ja muud väed annaks selleks milleks vaja on suurematel olevustel kes hingetute inimeste kehasi kasutavad selleks
14 May 2017 22:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ikka võib
//on esimene reatsioon
Kuid ma selle peale veel pean mõtlema, kas nii on ja miks nii on, kas ikka võib ja kas alati
//on esimene reatsioon
Kuid ma selle peale veel pean mõtlema, kas nii on ja miks nii on, kas ikka võib ja kas alati
14 May 2017 22:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and important Joke Of The Day
1h 30m
https://youtu.be/An_6scafAng?t=5442
1h 30m
https://youtu.be/An_6scafAng?t=5442
https://youtu.be/An_6scafAng?t=5442
14 May 2017 22:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
rohelisemat looduslikult kuid eelkõige vähem lipsusemat
14 May 2017 21:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See on mu reaalne mure ja ka tõestus samas, et meil on vaja sellest palju rohkemat, tõsisemat, sinisemat
14 May 2017 21:53
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
This kind of things should perhaps not be public before we know
14 May 2017 21:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
important point: 1h 10m (minute 1h 11m about 1 and half minute )
14 May 2017 21:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ammu sellistele asjadele mõelnud, kuid sain kinnitust üle maakerateise poolepealt, et neil see arusaam elmentaarne,
14 May 2017 21:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1h.4m
14 May 2017 21:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
What is pornography
" https://youtu.be/An_6scafAng?t=3818
" https://youtu.be/An_6scafAng?t=3818
https://youtu.be/An_6scafAng?t=3818
14 May 2017 21:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Sind armastan ma" on ka sobiv, kuigi siis on juba Sinu ja Tema vahel armastus, aga vahel ei peaks midagi olema sidumiseks, sest see mis juba olemas on ja teada on rohkem kindlam kui mis iganes ärakaduda võib
14 May 2017 21:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But logically Estonia natural people should have this info as basic
but soviet and last invaders have try to root it out to depths
but soviet and last invaders have try to root it out to depths
14 May 2017 20:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Shorter version, from another Rabbi ( a bit more hash
facebook.com/goalcast/videos/1309547322455788/
www.bit.ly/2Love_explained_short
facebook.com/goalcast/videos/1309547322455788/
www.bit.ly/2Love_explained_short
14 May 2017 20:02
Margus Meigo commented on Albert Barley's post.
Well, these rabbis know well what they talk about,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An_6scafAng
this the real "Jewishness" as fitting in to our Estonia native way as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An_6scafAng
this the real "Jewishness" as fitting in to our Estonia native way as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An_6scafAng
14 May 2017 19:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid eks need kes seda targal eesmärgil teevad tuleb erimoodi märkida ja uurida, et kas proovitakse õigustust leida millegi veidra jaoks või pigem nähtavalt näakse vaeva jutujärgigi selleks, et rohkem normaalne oleks
14 May 2017 05:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid paljud ka sellised, kes kukkudes kelle iganes tirivad kaasa mõtlematult et mis kasu see teisele tooma peaks, tiri sis mingi väem hea kindlalt pahateolt kaasa pigem
mite ideoloogilise tegelasega,
kui valida neid kes reaalselt juba meelega valesti elavad
mite ideoloogilise tegelasega,
kui valida neid kes reaalselt juba meelega valesti elavad
14 May 2017 05:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ikka heaga alguses enamusi proovitud kui ette pold teada, et oli vaja peale sõita igaksjuhuks, et ennetada arvatavat tagajärge tuleviku potensiaalset vaenlast nuumamata taga koostööd teha ja paraleelselt teda õõnestades, smastudes, kopeerides ja üle kirjutades, et kui kui võimalik siis juba ette köidikusse siduda ja teha siis ise mida arvasid teine plaanivat (sellepärast ohtlik valede võimudega koostööd teha kes väärideaalse vaimu all juhiduvad, tugevasti küll vast aga lõpuks lahustuva, nende oma vea tõttu millega nad Sind lahustada proovivad)
14 May 2017 05:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eks eestlaste taluvuse piiri rest sakstega jms prooviti eemalt,
mõõdeti pikka aru ja plaani peeti, kas nad pikameelsed või lühikese taibuni jõudvad otsekohe ja seepärast hoiavad aeglast taandarengu tempot,
(et lähme küll ise, aga vaikselt, antke meile aega, kuigi samas moned muudmaad tunda saanud veidrat puutumatust, kui end prtrmehena tunda tahavad võõral maal siis ei saa mugavalt nautida puhkust pareminigi kui ori )
mõõdeti pikka aru ja plaani peeti, kas nad pikameelsed või lühikese taibuni jõudvad otsekohe ja seepärast hoiavad aeglast taandarengu tempot,
(et lähme küll ise, aga vaikselt, antke meile aega, kuigi samas moned muudmaad tunda saanud veidrat puutumatust, kui end prtrmehena tunda tahavad võõral maal siis ei saa mugavalt nautida puhkust pareminigi kui ori )
14 May 2017 05:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hoidma peavad piiri, et üle ääre piiri ei hoiaks
14 May 2017 05:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja kõik mis ma loen, on minu musi
( whaaat_:p )
samalajal teisemeelsed just sellevalla tajumises,
( whaaat_:p )
samalajal teisemeelsed just sellevalla tajumises,
14 May 2017 05:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lihtsalt mõelda, et kui päriselt on olemas mõjutused või korrapärased mõjutused,
siis oleks tore teada.
Kui aga maailm sedapidi tehtud, et me päris kehad eri kohtades, eri info ja vajaduste all, kuid siin läbisegi koos pärisinimestega põhises ilmas ja inforuumis kuid päritolu suund ja mõjutused kust tuldud ollakse on hästimitmesuguseid
/ mis siin omavahel kõik põimudes selgust saada proovivad harjukeskmiselt
siis oleks tore teada.
Kui aga maailm sedapidi tehtud, et me päris kehad eri kohtades, eri info ja vajaduste all, kuid siin läbisegi koos pärisinimestega põhises ilmas ja inforuumis kuid päritolu suund ja mõjutused kust tuldud ollakse on hästimitmesuguseid
/ mis siin omavahel kõik põimudes selgust saada proovivad harjukeskmiselt
14 May 2017 02:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi tarkade nimedega asu varem välja andnud..eks näis..
14 May 2017 02:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
VÕi siis pigem MITTE, sest ikka päris imelikku juttu ajab:
"Kõige parem taevaseis on Mart Helmel. Kui rahvas saaks valida valitakse kindlasti Mart Helme. Aga kuna Reformierakonnal on suured jõud Euroopa Komisjonis ja Komisjon on Reformierakonna seljataga, siis on Mardil raskusi. Peale selle hakkas reformierakond juba tegutsema. Ta laskis jälle lahti kuuldused Reformierakonna kõrgest reitingust (27% Keskerakonna 21% vastu) ja esikohast, ehkki seda ei ole. Ta kordab sama võtet, mida tehti ka enne parlamendi valimisi. Ei saa reiting ühe päevaga enne valimisi tõusta ja siis jälle kohe peale valimisi jälle langeda."
vs.
"Siimul erilisi tugevaid aspekte ei ole. Tema iseärasuseks on suur kõigi sisemiste jõudude kontsentratsioon avalikule elule ja tegevusele. Vaevalt, et ta oma kodusele elule erilist tähelepanu pöörab. Samuti on tal Jupiteri näol tugev seljatagune, mis samuti juhib teda kodust välja. Sellepärast ongi tema loomulik kodu Brüsselis, tugev Jupiter suunab teda ka kodumaalt välja. Ta soovib kõike ise otsustada, soovib olla suurim ülemjuhataja. Kui tema valitakse presidendis, siis Euroopa Komisjoni toetusel. Paistab, et Komisjon ongi andnud talle ülesande olla Eestis ülemjuhataja Brüsseli juhtimisel. Roti aasta näitab brigadiri, ehk väiksemat ametnikku, aga samas tugev Jupiter ka ülemjuhatajat. Päike Kaaludes ei ole kuidagi võimuinimese näitaja, pigem õpetaja ja suhetes kompromisside otsija. Ühest küljest ülemjuhataja-brigadir teisest küljest õpetaja. Kokku annab koolidirektori tüübi, kes täidab haridusministri korraldusi.
Kui rahvas saaks valida, siis Siimust ei saaks Eesti presidenti. "
ja siis
"Edgaril on küll kõige tugevam horoskoop, võrreldes teiste kandidaatidega, mis näitab ka tema väga suurt elujõudu. Edgar suudab üle elada mitu surmaohtlikku olukorda, mida enamus ei suuda. Suur mitmekülgsus, Tiigri aasta ja Kaksikute märk ei anna aga eriliselt suurt võimu, pigem jõudude killustamist ja pidevat õppimisvõimet.
Tema horoskoop näitab siiski tema poliitilise seisundi muutust, mille põhjuseks oli haigus ja ebaõiglane kohtuotsus. Oktoobri keskpaigas selgub tema uus seisund, mis võib olla ka tema linnapea seisundi taastumine, aga ei ole välistatud ka mingi muu ametikoht. Presidendi ametikoht läks temast mööda. "
ja siis ülejäänud on :
aaah ei hakka koppimagi.
Oroskoop näitas ebaõilasi kohtuotsuseid või kuidas see nüüd oli, seda numbrikohta ise ka sooviks näha,
ja kas see mitte kunst, kuhu iganes pidi laveerida otsusega sügavalt mõlemat poolt uurides ja teada proovides
http://alkeemia.delfi.ee/mystika/esoteerika/presidendihoroskoop-astroloog-villu-poldma-ennustab-keda-presidendikandidaatidest-soosivad-taevased-vaed?id=74856697
"Kõige parem taevaseis on Mart Helmel. Kui rahvas saaks valida valitakse kindlasti Mart Helme. Aga kuna Reformierakonnal on suured jõud Euroopa Komisjonis ja Komisjon on Reformierakonna seljataga, siis on Mardil raskusi. Peale selle hakkas reformierakond juba tegutsema. Ta laskis jälle lahti kuuldused Reformierakonna kõrgest reitingust (27% Keskerakonna 21% vastu) ja esikohast, ehkki seda ei ole. Ta kordab sama võtet, mida tehti ka enne parlamendi valimisi. Ei saa reiting ühe päevaga enne valimisi tõusta ja siis jälle kohe peale valimisi jälle langeda."
vs.
"Siimul erilisi tugevaid aspekte ei ole. Tema iseärasuseks on suur kõigi sisemiste jõudude kontsentratsioon avalikule elule ja tegevusele. Vaevalt, et ta oma kodusele elule erilist tähelepanu pöörab. Samuti on tal Jupiteri näol tugev seljatagune, mis samuti juhib teda kodust välja. Sellepärast ongi tema loomulik kodu Brüsselis, tugev Jupiter suunab teda ka kodumaalt välja. Ta soovib kõike ise otsustada, soovib olla suurim ülemjuhataja. Kui tema valitakse presidendis, siis Euroopa Komisjoni toetusel. Paistab, et Komisjon ongi andnud talle ülesande olla Eestis ülemjuhataja Brüsseli juhtimisel. Roti aasta näitab brigadiri, ehk väiksemat ametnikku, aga samas tugev Jupiter ka ülemjuhatajat. Päike Kaaludes ei ole kuidagi võimuinimese näitaja, pigem õpetaja ja suhetes kompromisside otsija. Ühest küljest ülemjuhataja-brigadir teisest küljest õpetaja. Kokku annab koolidirektori tüübi, kes täidab haridusministri korraldusi.
Kui rahvas saaks valida, siis Siimust ei saaks Eesti presidenti. "
ja siis
"Edgaril on küll kõige tugevam horoskoop, võrreldes teiste kandidaatidega, mis näitab ka tema väga suurt elujõudu. Edgar suudab üle elada mitu surmaohtlikku olukorda, mida enamus ei suuda. Suur mitmekülgsus, Tiigri aasta ja Kaksikute märk ei anna aga eriliselt suurt võimu, pigem jõudude killustamist ja pidevat õppimisvõimet.
Tema horoskoop näitab siiski tema poliitilise seisundi muutust, mille põhjuseks oli haigus ja ebaõiglane kohtuotsus. Oktoobri keskpaigas selgub tema uus seisund, mis võib olla ka tema linnapea seisundi taastumine, aga ei ole välistatud ka mingi muu ametikoht. Presidendi ametikoht läks temast mööda. "
ja siis ülejäänud on :
aaah ei hakka koppimagi.
Oroskoop näitas ebaõilasi kohtuotsuseid või kuidas see nüüd oli, seda numbrikohta ise ka sooviks näha,
ja kas see mitte kunst, kuhu iganes pidi laveerida otsusega sügavalt mõlemat poolt uurides ja teada proovides
http://alkeemia.delfi.ee/mystika/esoteerika/presidendihoroskoop-astroloog-villu-poldma-ennustab-keda-presidendikandidaatidest-soosivad-taevased-vaed?id=74856697
http://alkeemia.delfi.ee/mystika/esoteerika/presidendihoroskoop-astroloog-villu-poldma-ennustab-keda-presidendikandidaatidest-soosivad-taevased-vaed?id=74856697
14 May 2017 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kõlab nagu midagi mida Villu Põldma seltskond võiks teada
14 May 2017 02:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Astroloogia ja meie maailmadest kellavärgis läbi käivad erienergiate reaalsed mõjutused vabatahtlikud ja paratamatud,
kaardistada
kaardistada
14 May 2017 01:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(talking from the truth point of view)
no wonder there is so deep level illusions made around them,
when they got this kind of basic in order.
To be able to tell totally Ordinary people this level in a way that it will be understood.
Emphasizing so elegantly and warmly with no wonder some hard to forget realty layers.
___
But still, there is tie around he's neck also, i am not sure jet where it is but /might be somewhere
no wonder there is so deep level illusions made around them,
when they got this kind of basic in order.
To be able to tell totally Ordinary people this level in a way that it will be understood.
Emphasizing so elegantly and warmly with no wonder some hard to forget realty layers.
___
But still, there is tie around he's neck also, i am not sure jet where it is but /might be somewhere
14 May 2017 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kas ei räägita uudistes või asi selles, et ma uudiseid ei järgi.
täiesti huvitav,
siiamaani pisi segaduses, et kas see ongi siis see vana sari mille jaoks ettevalmistatud saadi pikalt nädalaid vanasti...
ja nüüd olematu ja ka nagu midagi ei ole
täiesti huvitav,
siiamaani pisi segaduses, et kas see ongi siis see vana sari mille jaoks ettevalmistatud saadi pikalt nädalaid vanasti...
ja nüüd olematu ja ka nagu midagi ei ole
13 May 2017 23:53
Margus Meigo commented on Horace Zontal's post.
Bots for what?
13 May 2017 17:35
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Candor Montgomery's post.
Group: The Democratic Political Initiative
harsh,
how they even make this pic available13 May 2017 17:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
can easily be many of hers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQVop3-OOXc&list=PLxpvywHIdSb7lj-EP2Hr0vFOD9netoxOm&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQVop3-OOXc&list=PLxpvywHIdSb7lj-EP2Hr0vFOD9netoxOm&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQVop3-OOXc&list=PLxpvywHIdSb7lj-EP2Hr0vFOD9netoxOm&index=2
13 May 2017 05:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
no i think most of these kind of songs that come after in playlist will make Your heart hurt,
good song requirement is: it can newer make your head hurt
good song requirement is: it can newer make your head hurt
13 May 2017 05:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
OKey
a notch another way higher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUlX8ltm_JU&index=6&list=RDuSctzAk-F_I
a notch another way higher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUlX8ltm_JU&index=6&list=RDuSctzAk-F_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUlX8ltm_JU&index=6&list=RDuSctzAk-F_I
13 May 2017 04:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But truly there are species of that and many kind and the ones who see them what they are and can still love
and the ones besides who they are will still try to be
and the ones besides who they are will still try to be
13 May 2017 04:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
(räägib siin)
Kuid ikka siiras, suutnud peale kuulsuse aega veel suht tagasihoidlikuna hoida.
kuidas arvate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2piv2Zcja5Y13 May 2017 04:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Päris poheemid muidu, kuid veel usu alles jätnud neil aegadel, milline imelugu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BL06fxHPVo&list=RD8BL06fxHPVohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BL06fxHPVo&list=RD8BL06fxHPVo
13 May 2017 04:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
(no one is going to save You)
Well, besides who we are
But unlike You, we do not have Guardians
over us,
just we over us,
but we can do from what You give
What will not be, we can not take a lot
and even when we do a little, we plan to give
a lot
(no one is going to save You)
Well, besides who we are
But unlike You, we do not have Guardians
over us,
just we over us,
but we can do from what You give
What will not be, we can not take a lot
and even when we do a little, we plan to give
a lot
13 May 2017 03:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei nu nii nüüd ka eo tasu arvata, et venemaa kogu EGO sõnaotsene tähendus on oma suuruses
13 May 2017 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to Tõnu Aru's comment.
mis siis kui veto on farsh, et hooletuks ja pehmeks vastased muutuks,
ning kui positsioonid paigas, kõik vastased korraga võtavad siis kasutusele kui vaja, kõike mis on
ning kui positsioonid paigas, kõik vastased korraga võtavad siis kasutusele kui vaja, kõike mis on
13 May 2017 02:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(eelmised tuleviku vihjete märgeteks)
13 May 2017 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid taandarengu teemad nagu ka iga muu tondi, deemoni lood tuleb eemale hoida, ilma neile raadioAktiivsetele olenditele enda
tuttavastki või huvialast märku andmata (kuidas iganes endast ülse teada anda alati võtke mõtesse, et see on vastutus)
tuttavastki või huvialast märku andmata (kuidas iganes endast ülse teada anda alati võtke mõtesse, et see on vastutus)
13 May 2017 02:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(//meeelega, sulgues vääramet kuigi eelmist väärarenguga seotud taandarengu mõte )
13 May 2017 02:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et ühesõnaga kõik mis tagasi hoiab () ei pruugi paha olla kuigi suures plaanis kõik mis tagasihoiatkse on suure tõenäosusega baheaga seotudm või mõne muu väär või taandareng. (vääramet lõpuks ka taandareng)
13 May 2017 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid paremuses ise tagasi hoidvaval on enesemääratlus ja
13 May 2017 02:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
et kuigi tundevaesuses saab ka olla selliselt, et ise endal hoiad paremuse pidurit peal, et ennast mitte liigahästi tunda millise iganes arusaama osas eraldi liialt pikalt,
13 May 2017 02:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(see maailmade tehas, teeb elu veelgi reaalsemaks, mitte tundeVaesenmaks)
13 May 2017 01:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja "me" all mõtlesin, kui meie maailma (ümber olevad asutuste aitamiste suunaline, (naturaalsus kui ka praktilisus)
13 May 2017 01:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid loomuliklt omaks me teemandi või mateeria muunumise funktsiooni endi ümber selleks ajaks kui need asjad juhtuvad,
kui meie ümbert ammu paljusuurem kui kosmoseväli kadunud, siiis hoiti lihtsalt veel niikaua, et arueisaadud, egasaadaks sellisest olukorrast kus nad ühestkohast teise tõsteti, muidu nagu 13 korruse (see film) effect oleks me peas kosmosest ja see karbistaks meid,
vaja aga on vaim suureks kasvatada
kui meie ümbert ammu paljusuurem kui kosmoseväli kadunud, siiis hoiti lihtsalt veel niikaua, et arueisaadud, egasaadaks sellisest olukorrast kus nad ühestkohast teise tõsteti, muidu nagu 13 korruse (see film) effect oleks me peas kosmosest ja see karbistaks meid,
vaja aga on vaim suureks kasvatada
13 May 2017 01:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(meie kui inimliigi, on muud pooled ka kellede tarbeks ollakse, sest nad ise ei saa aga saavad meid meie vastu rakendada, nu ja siis veel ka need kes saavad ja kes ka teevad ja ka ilma planeet maa millisest iganes teadaolevatest olukordadest olenematult, ehk mitte meelega meie vastu, //kuigi kosmose luuaga tasemel, kus maaakera on taseme suuruse olulisuses kui keegi kellel oleks kosmiliseLuua ja maakera kui prahi suuruse vahe. Meie maailma osas, siis neid luuamehi on ka naturaalseid ja automaatseid ja vaenulikke nagu mürgitajad või eelnimetatud trikitatud mürgitatude jaoks. )
// Psühedeelne Anps
// Psühedeelne Anps
13 May 2017 01:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga kas ta meie kaitseks hoiab, ütle mõni Liidu professor, seda me veel näeme,
kui pikalt Õigeusk aitab
kui pikalt Õigeusk aitab
13 May 2017 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oota VENEMAA on see kes praegu kogu maakera sihikul ja nuga kõripeal hoiab enamusel, ja TALLE tahetakse ära teha, UMMMM.. ei tea MIKS KÜL??!??!?!!
Uuuurrrrghh!
Uuuurrrrghh!
13 May 2017 01:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: The Democratic Political Initiative
but show they platy, on overtake with some ETI and Soviets, romans ideology, u know what i mean13 May 2017 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on Kitty Leknik's post.
Group: The Democratic Political Initiative
Trumpism,
even hes truth that sound stupified to common (man)13 May 2017 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but most of the time is 100% different, better, suspection
13 May 2017 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but before reading this humans get in information war answers like that all over the net:
https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/56e9i7/remember_our_nonviolent_eti_from_the_contiguous/
https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/56e9i7/remember_our_nonviolent_eti_from_the_contiguous/
https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/56e9i7/remember_our_nonviolent_eti_from_the_contiguous/
13 May 2017 00:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
explained here
https://www.geekwire.com/2016/aliens-apollo-astronaut-edgar-mitchell-wikileaks/
https://www.geekwire.com/2016/aliens-apollo-astronaut-edgar-mitchell-wikileaks/
https://www.geekwire.com/2016/aliens-apollo-astronaut-edgar-mitchell-wikileaks/
13 May 2017 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
u know that guy
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1802
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1802
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1802
13 May 2017 00:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Guy even not realized at first that is on talk with a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_UFO_Network deep member, who Really educated herself on these matters, as she told nicely.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_UFO_Network
13 May 2017 00:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Milline osa seal see sitt on ja milline kasulk, kui saad selgita
Kuid jah, tegelikult need sõja tasemed palu kõrgemad ja tõsisemad, mitmekesisemad.
riike praegu reaalset pantvangis hoitakse.
Seda pole nii keeruline teha (ka karmimalt, mafialikumalt), maad pantvangis hoida kui vahendeid on, siis lihtsam ja edukam kui avalikult proovida ühte inimest hoida.
Kuid jah, tegelikult need sõja tasemed palu kõrgemad ja tõsisemad, mitmekesisemad.
riike praegu reaalset pantvangis hoitakse.
Seda pole nii keeruline teha (ka karmimalt, mafialikumalt), maad pantvangis hoida kui vahendeid on, siis lihtsam ja edukam kui avalikult proovida ühte inimest hoida.
13 May 2017 00:05
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Toomend's post.
Well, as they want to forget us all, then perhaps we can so clear up this mindset that produces these kinds, that truly, we can forget
As there is nothing to remember more then another faulty God's tools that was repaired by 2024 i hope
As there is nothing to remember more then another faulty God's tools that was repaired by 2024 i hope
12 May 2017 23:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui juba mingil konverentsil kunagi rääkijaks saada siis sellel Areenal
12 May 2017 23:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi tegelikult "Pimedaim enne koitu? Sõda usalduse pärast ja kuidas seda võita"
Et Carterelik
Et Carterelik
12 May 2017 23:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tõsine hardcore:
Läänemaailma ees seisvatele strateegilistele väljakutsetele aitavad Lennart Meri Konverentsil vastuseid leida Eesti president Kersti Kaljulaid, Soome president Sauli Niinistö, Euroopa Liidu välisteenistuse kõrge esindaja Federica Mogherini, Itaalia endine peaminister Enrico Letta, Itaalia Euroopa asjade minister Sandro Gozi, Gruusia peaminister Giorgi Kvirikashvili, Türgi asepeaminister Mehmet Şimşek, Leedu kaitseminister Raimundas Karoblis, NATO asepeasekretär Rose Gottemoeller, India endine välisminister Kanwal Sibal ning paljud teised.
Lisaks poliitikutele ja mõttekodalastele osalevad aruteludel kodanikuaktivistid Venemaalt, Valgevenest, Ukrainast. Tõejärgse ajastu ja infosõja teemasid aitavad mõtestada sotsiaalmeedias aktiivsed juhtivad ajakirjanikud nagu Michael Weissja Ahmed Rashid. USA valitsuse uuest välispoliitikast räägivad teiste seas Fordi asepresident Stephen Biegun ning kirjanik ja ajakirjanik Sarah Kendzior. Arutlusele tuleb Euroopa Liidu tulevik, populismi mõju demokraatiale, Venemaa kasvav sõjakus info- ja küberruumis, Süüria jätkuv konflikt, Hiina mõjuvõimu kasv – teemad, mis nõuavad mitte ainult vastuseid vaid ka põhimõttelist kohanemist ja muutusi praeguses maailmakorralduses.
Konverents algab 12. mai õhtul kell 16.30 ning lõpeb 14. mai lõuna ajal. Toimumiskoht on Radisson Blu Sky hotell Tallinna kesklinnas. Töökeel on inglise keel ning osalemine kutsetega. Konverentsi saab jälgida veebiülekande kaudu konverentsi kodulehel.
Lennart Meri Konverentsi korraldab Rahvusvaheline Kaitseuuringute Keskus koos Lennart Meri Sihtasutusega, toetavad kaitseministeerium, välisministeerium, Elering, Wihuri, NATO, Milrem, BAE Systems, Eesti Idapartnerluse Keskus, Konrad Adenaueri Sihtasutus, Defendec, Hanwha. Konverentsi meediapartner on BNS.
Läänemaailma ees seisvatele strateegilistele väljakutsetele aitavad Lennart Meri Konverentsil vastuseid leida Eesti president Kersti Kaljulaid, Soome president Sauli Niinistö, Euroopa Liidu välisteenistuse kõrge esindaja Federica Mogherini, Itaalia endine peaminister Enrico Letta, Itaalia Euroopa asjade minister Sandro Gozi, Gruusia peaminister Giorgi Kvirikashvili, Türgi asepeaminister Mehmet Şimşek, Leedu kaitseminister Raimundas Karoblis, NATO asepeasekretär Rose Gottemoeller, India endine välisminister Kanwal Sibal ning paljud teised.
Lisaks poliitikutele ja mõttekodalastele osalevad aruteludel kodanikuaktivistid Venemaalt, Valgevenest, Ukrainast. Tõejärgse ajastu ja infosõja teemasid aitavad mõtestada sotsiaalmeedias aktiivsed juhtivad ajakirjanikud nagu Michael Weissja Ahmed Rashid. USA valitsuse uuest välispoliitikast räägivad teiste seas Fordi asepresident Stephen Biegun ning kirjanik ja ajakirjanik Sarah Kendzior. Arutlusele tuleb Euroopa Liidu tulevik, populismi mõju demokraatiale, Venemaa kasvav sõjakus info- ja küberruumis, Süüria jätkuv konflikt, Hiina mõjuvõimu kasv – teemad, mis nõuavad mitte ainult vastuseid vaid ka põhimõttelist kohanemist ja muutusi praeguses maailmakorralduses.
Konverents algab 12. mai õhtul kell 16.30 ning lõpeb 14. mai lõuna ajal. Toimumiskoht on Radisson Blu Sky hotell Tallinna kesklinnas. Töökeel on inglise keel ning osalemine kutsetega. Konverentsi saab jälgida veebiülekande kaudu konverentsi kodulehel.
Lennart Meri Konverentsi korraldab Rahvusvaheline Kaitseuuringute Keskus koos Lennart Meri Sihtasutusega, toetavad kaitseministeerium, välisministeerium, Elering, Wihuri, NATO, Milrem, BAE Systems, Eesti Idapartnerluse Keskus, Konrad Adenaueri Sihtasutus, Defendec, Hanwha. Konverentsi meediapartner on BNS.
12 May 2017 23:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
convention for a WAR for a trust..
But take read on that :
"Venemaa hinnangul on riik läänega sõjas ning peab sel eesmärgil lääne vastu poliitilist, mittekineetilist sõda, ütles ajakirjanik Brian Whitmore usutluses BNS-ile.
"Venemaa peab mittekineetilist sõda lääne vastu. Nad üritavad külvata kahtlusi, umbusku ja segadust. Nad üritavad sundida meid kaotama usku meie institutsioonidesse, meie demokraatiasse," ütles reedel Tallinnas algaval Lennart Meri konverentsil osalev Whitmore."
Example:
I wonder, why they first in news tell what he told and then quote one n it afterwords"
Usually
https://uudised.tv3.ee/valismaa/uudis/2017/05/10/whitmore-venemaa-peab-laane-vastu-mittekineetilist-soda
But take read on that :
"Venemaa hinnangul on riik läänega sõjas ning peab sel eesmärgil lääne vastu poliitilist, mittekineetilist sõda, ütles ajakirjanik Brian Whitmore usutluses BNS-ile.
"Venemaa peab mittekineetilist sõda lääne vastu. Nad üritavad külvata kahtlusi, umbusku ja segadust. Nad üritavad sundida meid kaotama usku meie institutsioonidesse, meie demokraatiasse," ütles reedel Tallinnas algaval Lennart Meri konverentsil osalev Whitmore."
Example:
I wonder, why they first in news tell what he told and then quote one n it afterwords"
Usually
https://uudised.tv3.ee/valismaa/uudis/2017/05/10/whitmore-venemaa-peab-laane-vastu-mittekineetilist-soda
https://uudised.tv3.ee/valismaa/uudis/2017/05/10/whitmore-venemaa-peab-laane-vastu-mittekineetilist-soda
12 May 2017 23:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid mitte meie reaalsuste sisest ühte või teist maailmaaja järku inimese silme läbi, vaid inimajajärku ära unustades nad sellise reaalsustega liituvad, mis meid kõrvalnähteks teeb nii väiksel skaalal, et planeeti ise mäletada sellisena nagu ta oli oleks intellektuaalne solvang
12 May 2017 22:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this coding and thinking, to produce outcome like this, i call humanly (yes in the future when websites are for free it will be even more).
12 May 2017 11:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
12 May 2017 11:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
nu täöitaa lop oli hea si millega gife üles lükata, nüüd enam pole
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ehk täista värk, alles oli millega gife üles lükata ja siis ei ole jälle
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ehk siis see leht misalles googlest tuli välja, ku iotsida teneuseid enam ei ole seal leitav, nähtav kylastatuna naug mingid muud teenused
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ehk täista värk, alles oli millega gife üles lükata ja siis ei ole jälle
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ehk siis see leht misalles googlest tuli välja, ku iotsida teneuseid enam ei ole seal leitav, nähtav kylastatuna naug mingid muud teenused
12 May 2017 10:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(reaalsuseülisüvend
use kunstikatekooria loomisega tegelen praegu)
use kunstikatekooria loomisega tegelen praegu)
12 May 2017 09:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
iseendaks jäämine tähendab enda suurima potensiaali Coreks jätmine, suures plaanis,
Kuid ju kui keegi juba hakkab uskuma kaudselt, et mingid erivõimed on potensiaalselt meile tunduvad eriliikidel olemas, see võimalus vähegi realsust äratavaks loodud sulle, siis,
// Siis tuleb kindel olla inimesena ka, et nende asjades mis üle tema enda keha mõtlemist on, tuleb osata mõelda ka neid kõrval hoides rahulikult, et siinkohal
"ülemotlemine" tähendab nende organisatsioonide vastu minemine,
mis haldavad ja reguleerivad inimeste närvikeseme neutraalset naturaalset osa,
mille neutraliseerivad nende agentuuride esindajatest mõjutatud,
// mitmemuu meeletaseme tarvis ikkagi siia, ka vahepealne "pudelikork" panna,
et meeled püsima jääks
Kuid ju kui keegi juba hakkab uskuma kaudselt, et mingid erivõimed on potensiaalselt meile tunduvad eriliikidel olemas, see võimalus vähegi realsust äratavaks loodud sulle, siis,
// Siis tuleb kindel olla inimesena ka, et nende asjades mis üle tema enda keha mõtlemist on, tuleb osata mõelda ka neid kõrval hoides rahulikult, et siinkohal
"ülemotlemine" tähendab nende organisatsioonide vastu minemine,
mis haldavad ja reguleerivad inimeste närvikeseme neutraalset naturaalset osa,
mille neutraliseerivad nende agentuuride esindajatest mõjutatud,
// mitmemuu meeletaseme tarvis ikkagi siia, ka vahepealne "pudelikork" panna,
et meeled püsima jääks
12 May 2017 09:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ta ka hea närviga
12 May 2017 08:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Allar Kaljundi saab aru mis mõtlen
12 May 2017 08:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(kuid tänapäeval lisaks võimalus inimestel kogeda, veel seda mis ta on ka järgmine aasta)
12 May 2017 08:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(punkti asemel kirjutan: jah ka need kes seda jutule kutset palvuse all mõtlesid)
12 May 2017 08:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu need osad, kes isegi jutule ei tule
12 May 2017 08:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tuul Erlend Olen saab aru mis mõtlen isegi rohkem kui instituudi kõrg väljalasked vahest
12 May 2017 08:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See märge, siin
oli, selleks, et veel endiselt meeltest otsivat, Jaarvutist eelnevalt markeetritud
hmm, või mõttes (rafineeritud)
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Oot, siitmaalt läks imelikuks, sest, see nagu tuist ja tuul on millega peab minema, kaasa, muidu jääb ette.
oli, selleks, et veel endiselt meeltest otsivat, Jaarvutist eelnevalt markeetritud
hmm, või mõttes (rafineeritud)
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Oot, siitmaalt läks imelikuks, sest, see nagu tuist ja tuul on millega peab minema, kaasa, muidu jääb ette.
12 May 2017 08:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Meistrimees küll aga meisterdan asju mille seletuseks teil paremat instituuti vaja
12 May 2017 08:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
key maybe not so impossible, have not take this road to think that out, will try to do now
11 May 2017 23:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as was wondering,
of all love-partners who told so,
to someone with who they meant what they told,
just because they have another husband's, them all stop telling that they still love
, how is that logical, (/in society) you say That and then take back words related to love,
as like that would be anything else but impossible to see as normal
(nor is normal the cold vibes(natural, maybe yes))
of all love-partners who told so,
to someone with who they meant what they told,
just because they have another husband's, them all stop telling that they still love
, how is that logical, (/in society) you say That and then take back words related to love,
as like that would be anything else but impossible to see as normal
(nor is normal the cold vibes(natural, maybe yes))
11 May 2017 23:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
like in interested, and loving way's,
11 May 2017 22:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so i mean, this makes you on top, in many ways
11 May 2017 22:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
May May i think You have told me more "love you" in past 5 years then these who do
11 May 2017 22:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid kelle eest siis veel (kui küsida tohib)
11 May 2017 22:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
oih, ekre kasutas ka seda Täg'i
11 May 2017 22:53
Margus Meigo commented on Jaan Pummelung's post.
Paranda maailma, õpi midagi uut, vaata naiste loodud ilu
11 May 2017 21:05
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
Nu?
11 May 2017 19:22
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's post.
Not so ways, all my parts believe in to it and want it and work for it for years, but it Will go off the mind with in minutes..
or perhaps people got different kind of aims... or focusing capabilities..
or perhaps people got different kind of aims... or focusing capabilities..
11 May 2017 17:41
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's photo.
No splitted persona here
11 May 2017 17:36
Margus Meigo commented on Maria Laura Ferreira Rodriguez's post.
Group: Tucker Carlson Fox News
Good man and a name is a Scummer , that's not nice..11 May 2017 17:33
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce Alan Wilson's post.
fox knows about that
11 May 2017 15:20
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
You fallow me?
( not literally )
( not literally )
11 May 2017 15:16
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
I feel there is needless slowing down in some of the grammar
that can be skipped in a data feeds,
but generally, nice coat around the sentences, to be available, is always nice in all language mindset
that can be skipped in a data feeds,
but generally, nice coat around the sentences, to be available, is always nice in all language mindset
11 May 2017 15:16
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
To build a structure around the words, so data would stay same
11 May 2017 15:11
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
Perhaps working for NSA and get to to scramble that in a way that would make sense to all minds
¤ Native person yes, but language is not native for me
¤ Native person yes, but language is not native for me
11 May 2017 15:10
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
Try not to use to much more words
11 May 2017 15:09
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
But can You co-operate with Your friend and put it on this form of writing that should be
11 May 2017 15:09
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
yes and what did you got from that
(i am after functions not a grammar)
(i am after functions not a grammar)
11 May 2017 15:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
difficult to mach these topic's seems at first, but actually is needed also, can be used for sure easy, to grab the needed spectrum of possibilities, in terms of what to think for understanding majority of people most easy
11 May 2017 04:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but is there different outcomes for sure, and who owns rule on it if one party as in real life, does what one did not know, or is each other body really accessible.
Or in the end, is it sure, that it is not a another communists blot to make us die out by unbreeding in future,
( if shielding off entire America in 500 y's under separate sky, does not work out, for total control of what is inside and eventually as plants inside plastic, will degenerate but what is happening inside will be then protected off by full power by anyone who try to break the shield. to save them.
And as in the end there will be less mayor access-points to monitor, what comes to connection, the internet will be better controlled then Korean test
if is it possible with a story to keep entire world not looking what is happening inside actually of one sacrificed country.
Or in the end, is it sure, that it is not a another communists blot to make us die out by unbreeding in future,
( if shielding off entire America in 500 y's under separate sky, does not work out, for total control of what is inside and eventually as plants inside plastic, will degenerate but what is happening inside will be then protected off by full power by anyone who try to break the shield. to save them.
And as in the end there will be less mayor access-points to monitor, what comes to connection, the internet will be better controlled then Korean test
if is it possible with a story to keep entire world not looking what is happening inside actually of one sacrificed country.
11 May 2017 04:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 May 2017 04:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
11 May 2017 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
honest: related to word "how is better / more efficient"
11 May 2017 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And they would be able to rate on tags with these 3 parameters as :
Service, Bad, Food, Good, (Artificial, Human, ), True, W.. well, You get the idea, as long there is right tags and levels, then trust and understanding can be spread around Earth much more honestly
Service, Bad, Food, Good, (Artificial, Human, ), True, W.. well, You get the idea, as long there is right tags and levels, then trust and understanding can be spread around Earth much more honestly
11 May 2017 04:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 May 2017 04:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: ACIDMATH
anyway, trust on the red one, when one got white dots on it, u know https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY&t=1shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY&t=1s
11 May 2017 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on Justin Doyle's post.
Group: ACIDMATH
You call this Hairy Trumpet a fascistitus?11 May 2017 03:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ーズ・
But what it is what really happens, would that not be a needed sure answer that highest governments can vote for,
in 3 point terms:
1. Know a little.
2. Know a lot.
3. Know complete!
But what it is what really happens, would that not be a needed sure answer that highest governments can vote for,
in 3 point terms:
1. Know a little.
2. Know a lot.
3. Know complete!
11 May 2017 03:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Or no, if Catholics
Astral community ordinary talk is how one can pull viruses and much other from astral realm, but not any side effects from..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astral_body miss-usage?
Astral community ordinary talk is how one can pull viruses and much other from astral realm, but not any side effects from..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astral_body miss-usage?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astral_body
11 May 2017 03:47
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Oot midagi on hästi koledat ja selle pärast tegid selle pildi siis või ?
Muidu kujutad ette mismoodi linnaautod ja linn välja näeks kui oleks kruusa või Mulla tee?
Kasulikus on ka ilus.
Kuigi ma lihtsalt viisakas proovisin olla ilma sügavamalt palju vaadates mis postitasid,
mõtlesin, et ju siis seal see asi on, et Su arust see ilus tundus, et mis ma teise ilu rikun
Muidu kujutad ette mismoodi linnaautod ja linn välja näeks kui oleks kruusa või Mulla tee?
Kasulikus on ka ilus.
Kuigi ma lihtsalt viisakas proovisin olla ilma sügavamalt palju vaadates mis postitasid,
mõtlesin, et ju siis seal see asi on, et Su arust see ilus tundus, et mis ma teise ilu rikun
11 May 2017 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Praktilisus, on austuse Vend
11 May 2017 03:29
Margus Meigo replied to Tony Lindret's comment.
Palun täida punktiirid või mõte, mulle ei jäänud kohale kuidas mõtlesid
11 May 2017 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to Anu Lindret's comment.
alapealkirjas: Vist Vitsutist
Mitte sellepärast, et oleks mingi teadmine, kas ta Vitsuti kandist, kuid, et lihtsalt vitsasi ootava mehe osas seda sõna meeles hoidev, mis peamine.
"Vitsu Paludes"
Mitte sellepärast, et oleks mingi teadmine, kas ta Vitsuti kandist, kuid, et lihtsalt vitsasi ootava mehe osas seda sõna meeles hoidev, mis peamine.
"Vitsu Paludes"
11 May 2017 02:57
Margus Meigo replied to Anu Lindret's comment.
"kuid õnneks tuli mehele viimasel hetkel mõistus pähe"
On pildi nimi,
On pildi nimi,
11 May 2017 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to Anu Lindret's comment.
see pilt näitab, (lisaks sellele, et to jumalaga kohtudes ainult vitsa loodab saada ja kähku ise püksid maha võtab nagu kuulekas karistustootav laps kellele siis ehk ei anta niipalju kuidas teab ise küll, et vääriks. Nu kuidas sa ikka vitsa kellegile annad kes sul ise tagumiku karistuseks paljaks tõmbab)
11 May 2017 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"las ma mõtlen"
11 May 2017 02:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vot siis sellises teadvuses, on päris hea selline sõnum, kui selle teine pool eetrist väheste teadaolevate näol seda kätte saavad ja siis kaasa nii nõtlevad, et: "nemad ja ...10 vb veel! " (kes olemas on kindlat ja siis veel mingi pundid üle maailma ja miskites fantaasiates või paraleelilmadest ülestõusvad)
11 May 2017 02:49
Margus Meigo commented on Tony Lindret's post.
Vaat milline avastus ja sõnum selle pildi järgi, samas aga kui arvesse võtta, et päris mees räägib publikule kes aru saab, et meeste hulgas suur hulk muid varjante käib , uitab ja luusib ringi kes passis ja välimuselt on mees kuid kes tegelikult on imitatsioon või midagi muud
11 May 2017 02:46
Margus Meigo replied to Anu Lindret's comment.
isegi kui need olid kõik tehtud Adobe Photoshopiga arvutis moonutades normaalpilte, siis ilmselge, et selliseid mitmesuguseid katsetusi tehakse pidevalt (mul isegi moodus tuli kirja kuidas töölised nõusse saadakse suurt saladust nii laialdaselt hoidma kõrgemas tasemes)
11 May 2017 02:45
Margus Meigo replied to Tony Lindret's comment.
Nu võib öelda, et USA pole enamusi riike pommitanud, kuid venemaad kohe otseselt üldse mitte ma ei mäleta, et nad rünnanud oleks või veelgi vähem venemaa USAd, mäletab keegi midagi sellist
11 May 2017 02:19
Margus Meigo replied to Tony Lindret's comment.
Vähe sellest, Nõukogude Liit ja USA on kaks ainukest läänemeelset asutust olnud kes üksteist on meeletult aidanud suurte summadega ja võlgasi unustanud kuid kes pole üksteise vastu sõdinud kuigi 90% propakandast mõlemal poolel enamuse aja viimasest 100st aastast pdid nad nagu omavahel kõige suuremad konkureerivad vastaspooled olema, vahest räägiti, et lausa nagu vaenlased, aga ikka rohkem ja rohkem näib, et hea ja paha politsei partnerid ja tähed ka sarnased, ega hiinat ka otseselt pole nende kahe sõdadesse reaalsel mööral tõmmatud, kolm põhi asutust mis paari aasta pärast koos samal ajal uued eraldi projetina ehitatavad kosmosejaamad kosmosesse laskma peaks.
11 May 2017 02:17
Margus Meigo commented on Selene Gnadenteich's photo.
Wau milliseks jumalannaks Sa sirgunud oled
11 May 2017 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but i keep it here to remind my mistake, up to point when i figure out
11 May 2017 01:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 May 2017 01:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 May 2017 01:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but this what humans are, they Do what robot say even if they have to cry but in the end.. but when human, then there will be some strange "No, You first" situations coming, up to epic breaks, counting all what after that cased(ended) to exist what might have been some way for sure a lot of extra what will be lost, as humans demand each other, but Obey more willingfully to software or system rules,
but specially when it is only humans, from one to many, still, same behavior: no You all do first then will i do or say, or even unlike programs in another hand, when correct info or intention is thrown at them by some miracle, it would be in already attempt level at times not just ignored so deep in level that would not make noticing it even possible in a way that would be possible to understand what is meant, but even at times when is understood, still, in purpose will not be joined back to "correct path" or on the line, with correct behavior.
So this is,
the look for the ones who see it by the eyes of software rules,
humans thinking, they say what do do and they use, but they are guided in limited ways what to use and how in most of the time, willingly, and surprisingly, this version of obeyment humans most successfully put on each others
but specially when it is only humans, from one to many, still, same behavior: no You all do first then will i do or say, or even unlike programs in another hand, when correct info or intention is thrown at them by some miracle, it would be in already attempt level at times not just ignored so deep in level that would not make noticing it even possible in a way that would be possible to understand what is meant, but even at times when is understood, still, in purpose will not be joined back to "correct path" or on the line, with correct behavior.
So this is,
the look for the ones who see it by the eyes of software rules,
humans thinking, they say what do do and they use, but they are guided in limited ways what to use and how in most of the time, willingly, and surprisingly, this version of obeyment humans most successfully put on each others
11 May 2017 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
No idea, it told me what to do
11 May 2017 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
okey, soon only nice cuts can be allowed to web,
as this can be kept only as artistic feel and as for some message giving, not as a permanent stay and state of communication
as this can be kept only as artistic feel and as for some message giving, not as a permanent stay and state of communication
11 May 2017 01:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
not in a Floor 13 way
11 May 2017 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
i think this is second or third intentional joke i made up, but as most made up things, someone already has made that up before and advanced
leaving you soon after realization as n00b, when you are placed virtual world of that what you told is you and see if they can slide you away, by keeping fake city around you.
In extreme cases.
leaving you soon after realization as n00b, when you are placed virtual world of that what you told is you and see if they can slide you away, by keeping fake city around you.
In extreme cases.
11 May 2017 00:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Central Intelligence Agency
But real CIA is in flip-flops11 May 2017 00:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 May 2017 00:24
Margus Meigo commented on Sagar Sandip Tondavalkar's post.
Group: Central Intelligence Agency
Destroy the modeRn art, we mean abstract impressionism and
if someone is not able to correct that
Then Who is http://bit.ly/2BPD_Defence_Research2
J. Carter ( http://bit.ly/2Carter_Jimmy_PDA2 ) they say was most the one who accepted to leak that story // actually not, this one i just made logically up///(or World we can say,
for some: " leaking" a possibility and a Realty that (reader)was not aware about to be completely possible to meet so soon in ones life even if would be real that for some reason my life is planted away from that happenings
but we know they are happening in some where even same time in my life happiest belief of many possibilities that can be, (possible( what really is in ordinary mind / able to understand in complete many ways by not having no knowledge how another reality border is built, so but still, without knowing many of thousands or million's technology's one need to know to accomplish this task (mechanically , ... but by just understanding few lines of language, one after just slow belief, steady, things become so much more clearer that / that it would take masterful time of best of selected cooperated tops in many fields to even start clearly see it's workings but with just simple basic no ordinary education that slightly touches the main colors of knowledge or whit no school knowledge at all basic normal person can just understand that simply how to behave in multi realty crossing moment and in becoming from one realty that is one, to one another one that has near all ) )
The Clinton, http://bit.ly/2ClintonUSA2
if one will put that talk in to math then this math person can explain what it mean and then this person can reply back in to common people what is practical meaning of that what this means in common people words.
So normal village person who is not looking you as closed minded, will say to you: Yes(i understand), this means this:http://bit.ly/2BPD_Defence_Research2
11 May 2017 00:19
Margus Meigo commented on Ahmed Abraham's post.
Group: Central Intelligence Agency
double " quoatationmarks " as we can see
will comment about that later
http://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/fbi-files-the-paranormal-collection/
http://bit.ly/2Carter_Jimmy_PDA
http://bit.ly/2Cinton_USA
http://mysticinvestigations.com/paranormal_defense_agency.htm well, Estonians was top in Vatican secret service agency for long time so if anyone should know then we dohttp://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/fbi-files-the-paranormal-collection/
10 May 2017 23:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Punk pole punane
ema sõnas selle peale : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0a2JVY3hwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0a2JVY3hw
10 May 2017 22:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Punk pole punane
Ja siis hakkas edasi jahuma mulle,et "Nõukogu otsustas, et jääb nii"
Nu ja siis ta eri pereliikmetega rääkides, millest osa on võlts pereliikmed olnud,
on mingi osa otse ise öelnud, et nad on satanistid, ehk elupõhised viisnurga kummardajad
Täiesti valus noh, ja õigust täis ka veel10 May 2017 22:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Punk pole punane
Siin kogu vestlus:
http://margus-meigo.blogspot.com.ee/2017/05/eestluse-jaoks-solvav-viisnurk-ja-selle.htmlhttp://margus-meigo.blogspot.com.ee/2017/05/eestluse-jaoks-solvav-viisnurk-ja-selle.html
10 May 2017 19:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kurja, tuli välja, et punamustad Fake-anarcists
10 May 2017 03:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Isamaa 2.0 - Isamaa sõprade klubi
Kogu vaimse sõnumi sisu lisa kustutasin ära praegu, kuid see oli:
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vot siinmaal pole kombeks perega ühenduses olla,(isegi erakonnad, ikka kardavad selle ühe põhialuseks võtta mida taastada, nagu aru ei mõisteta eelmiste aastakümmete suuri globaalseid projekte, mis praeguse generatsiooni aja muutusega vanematest kavala eeldisainiga suures osas lahku viiks, ja sama nende eelastega tehti, et see praegusele põlvkonnale mõjuks, lõplikult
(väike ühendav lüli on veeel lapse lapse lapsed ja vanaisa, kuid nad ei räägi enam meedias eriti))
eip tea täpsemalt kuhu nüüd siis vanade arvates jõutud on?10 May 2017 03:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Isamaa 2.0 - Isamaa sõprade klubi
Muidugi ütles ta seda mituaastat tagasi, vb nüüd juba midagi muutunud,10 May 2017 03:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
newer remembered that she got stoned in the end
I guess this what "stone version..." meant
I guess this what "stone version..." meant
10 May 2017 01:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid see aut soidu ja muusika algus kohe tõi meelde selle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9WgtlgGAgs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9WgtlgGAgs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9WgtlgGAgs
10 May 2017 01:25
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kuigi, eks rabbit hole ka nii pidi toimi, et see mis tal sääl jooksis järjest oli ka üks paras tripp kuidas saab minna küll kui õiged asjad käepärast, kuid kas mõte filmilopus sai selgemaks ja arusaadavamaks millega tegelikut tegu, või jäid neil vedrate olendite nägemused meelde, selliselt, et need ettekujutused nagu oleks olnud
10 May 2017 01:20
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
(ammu nähtud eri kordades kuid eks kunagipeab uuesti veelkorra vaatama, arusaamaks kas sellel kutilkes filmi tegi ikka oli arusaamine ja kas film ise on arusaamiseks tõsuunal viiv, v')
10 May 2017 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to Alter Ed Native's comment.
fuu! for a dog
10 May 2017 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
arvad, et see samas liinis asi ?
10 May 2017 01:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 May 2017 01:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
interestingly perfect song added to the end
to expand that in to current world knowings
Erase and Rewind lyrics - The Cardigans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WOYnv59Bi8
Hey..
What did you hear me say?
You know the difference it makes
What did you hear me say?
Yes,I said it's fine before
But I don't think so no more
I said it's fine before
I've changed my mind
I take it back
Erase and rewind
'Cause I've been changing my mind
Erase and rewind
'Cause I've been changing my mind
I've changed my mind
So...
Where did you see me go?
It's not the right way, you know
Where did you see me go?
No...
It's not the light, oh no
I just don't want it to grow
It's not the light, oh no
I've changed my mind
I take it back
Erase and rewind
'Cause I've been changing my mind
Erase and rewind
'Cause I've been changing my mind
I've changed my mind
Erase and rewind
'Cause I've been changing my mind
Erase and rewind
'Cause I've been changing my mind
Erase and rewind
I've changed my mind...
I've changed my mind...
I've changed my mind...
I've changed my mind...
I've changed my mind...
I've changed my mind...
I've changed my mind...
to expand that in to current world knowings
Erase and Rewind lyrics - The Cardigans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WOYnv59Bi8
Hey..
What did you hear me say?
You know the difference it makes
What did you hear me say?
Yes,I said it's fine before
But I don't think so no more
I said it's fine before
I've changed my mind
I take it back
Erase and rewind
'Cause I've been changing my mind
Erase and rewind
'Cause I've been changing my mind
I've changed my mind
So...
Where did you see me go?
It's not the right way, you know
Where did you see me go?
No...
It's not the light, oh no
I just don't want it to grow
It's not the light, oh no
I've changed my mind
I take it back
Erase and rewind
'Cause I've been changing my mind
Erase and rewind
'Cause I've been changing my mind
I've changed my mind
Erase and rewind
'Cause I've been changing my mind
Erase and rewind
'Cause I've been changing my mind
Erase and rewind
I've changed my mind...
I've changed my mind...
I've changed my mind...
I've changed my mind...
I've changed my mind...
I've changed my mind...
I've changed my mind...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WOYnv59Bi8
10 May 2017 01:02
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kuid väärt sellgipoolest, kuig ivärvid ja mõtte sisu mõelda, et kuhu ja miks see viib, mis mõtteid ja tegusi selle pildiga seoses on, et vihjeid selles suunas, on raskem leida sellest,
ju vb ka sellepärast, et päris selle mõttega polnud tehtud.. kuid ikka mingi mõte oli, et üldse märgata teha seda ilti
ju vb ka sellepärast, et päris selle mõttega polnud tehtud.. kuid ikka mingi mõte oli, et üldse märgata teha seda ilti
9 May 2017 23:05
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
nu seda ma küsisingi, et mis see on
Kes poriloigus ei oska huvitavust leida, siis ei märka ta selle olemust ka roosi südames.
Ja sellepärast ma ütlesingi, et "hakkab looma" et päris see polnud mida ise oleksid ülesvõtnud
Kes poriloigus ei oska huvitavust leida, siis ei märka ta selle olemust ka roosi südames.
Ja sellepärast ma ütlesingi, et "hakkab looma" et päris see polnud mida ise oleksid ülesvõtnud
9 May 2017 23:02
Margus Meigo commented on Kärt Anvelt's post.
Oih mis pealkirjad
9 May 2017 23:01
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
tsekka seda struktuuri, mis pinnas see on?
9 May 2017 23:00
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
hakkab looma
9 May 2017 23:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
oo kollase peal see smal päris timm
9 May 2017 22:59
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
päike on õhtune
9 May 2017 22:47
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kuidas tavaliste mehaaniste vahenditega, saab ülesvõõta ja natuke edasi anda kõige tavalisemate hetkede kenamat näivat ja mida kõike veel
ateistina raske elada, siis kõik igav ja üksluine ning enmamus potensiaalset infot ka läheb kaotsi
ateistina raske elada, siis kõik igav ja üksluine ning enmamus potensiaalset infot ka läheb kaotsi
9 May 2017 22:46
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ei ma rõhun sellele, et tuleb rohkem kogu asja ilu osata hinnata ja aru saada
--
Ja õhtujuttu jutustades, on oluline ikka rõhuda tõe ja vajalikuse peale kuid mitte tagasi hoida fantaasiaga,
ilma fantaasiata ei ole suht võimalik hakata päris elu tajuma loovalt, vaid jäädakse igasse uute teadmisse kinni ning muutusi ja varjatsioone ei panda ka tähele uute olulisustena
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Ja õhtujuttu jutustades, on oluline ikka rõhuda tõe ja vajalikuse peale kuid mitte tagasi hoida fantaasiaga,
ilma fantaasiata ei ole suht võimalik hakata päris elu tajuma loovalt, vaid jäädakse igasse uute teadmisse kinni ning muutusi ja varjatsioone ei panda ka tähele uute olulisustena
9 May 2017 22:45
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
but anyway, how You think about what she told, You agree?
(i not say there must be some sexing on screen, but for sure, accepting killing on screen is so many levels wrong compared that pupi-hair is not allowed to appear in a most TV networks . ... i mean white people are spreading slowly, why to keep it only for porn channels with another kind of energy instead making it at least natural , so natural, that with out a need it would just look strange (as when strangers with unknown kids or my appear on your door, you might put something on) so in same way on TV unless is needed to expose for this special purpose for a show, then there should be no need.. but.. many other things that are shown in there that have no need in terms of direct benefit of , for human species, this is be on many of us how is it accepted to be allowed so long time in this age)
(i not say there must be some sexing on screen, but for sure, accepting killing on screen is so many levels wrong compared that pupi-hair is not allowed to appear in a most TV networks . ... i mean white people are spreading slowly, why to keep it only for porn channels with another kind of energy instead making it at least natural , so natural, that with out a need it would just look strange (as when strangers with unknown kids or my appear on your door, you might put something on) so in same way on TV unless is needed to expose for this special purpose for a show, then there should be no need.. but.. many other things that are shown in there that have no need in terms of direct benefit of , for human species, this is be on many of us how is it accepted to be allowed so long time in this age)
9 May 2017 22:29
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
9 May 2017 22:27
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
well, this is the body she has,
it is told, the special another body type of real species of humans,
who are built like that near naturally,
i did not look her body so much, focused more what she told,
it is told, the special another body type of real species of humans,
who are built like that near naturally,
i did not look her body so much, focused more what she told,
9 May 2017 22:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Thank You for the ones who like : )
9 May 2017 22:09
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
või okey, siis mida kuuled, kirleda helisi, et mis keskond ja ajahetk, aeg umbe on, et mis infot veel
9 May 2017 22:08
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
mida veel, fantaasia üldse ei liigu v :D
9 May 2017 22:07
Margus Meigo commented on Bashkim Fazliu's photo.
Haa, keegi peab normaalne ka olema, kuigi, normaalsem oleks kontsad alt ära murda, sest ega kui korra arusaad siis kunagi ju terveid kontsasi naguinii sa kellegile enam jalga ei annaks, kus iganes
9 May 2017 05:21
Margus Meigo commented on Vastutustundlik ettevõtlus's photo.
Siuke stiil
9 May 2017 05:20
Margus Meigo replied to Krystyna Hollis's comment.
specially important to know how and what
9 May 2017 04:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
For country like us, Estonians, is another form of soviet slavery, just kind of this kind that is much harder to scream about.
But just because of so many do believe it is good, some good things also happen.
Bdw, the original, first plan for European Union - EU was thought out in Estonia and put on to writing, hundreds of years ago.
This is accepted fact by EU
But just because of so many do believe it is good, some good things also happen.
Bdw, the original, first plan for European Union - EU was thought out in Estonia and put on to writing, hundreds of years ago.
This is accepted fact by EU
9 May 2017 02:35
Margus Meigo commented on Murray Morison's post.
So important but they make it sound, like these things they talk about is all good things
9 May 2017 02:33
Margus Meigo commented on Murray Morison's photo.
be careful about these things
9 May 2017 02:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this should be minimum, mind reading is elementary,
9 May 2017 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
not about proof, but at least, we Should assume this, for starters, before starting to mess-about in questions of aliens and Gov and agencies..
9 May 2017 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but yes, first we gotta have robots all over again and then they turn in to bio robots etc.. and then we fast realize, how many times we have been there
and who took us down from there and why
and who took us down from there and why
9 May 2017 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on Murray Morison's post.
this is still just pretty raw and crude tech and long way to go before they can show us really, what we are in to long time ago,
many levels to evolve but these are just samples we past fast in here to see what took us to this where we go,
now we long past of biological control of insects who agree in human terms to co-operate and who are as humans : forced and threatened by poisons if they do not obey for a work that is needed,
but up from there, there is the kind of another dimensional bugs, that She is on a bout a bit (YT: video search: super asha individual surviving ),
but on these arias, we have to stop a bit and think, can they really access as they want or not, and if they do, in what state of reality, in material sense, our body really is
many levels to evolve but these are just samples we past fast in here to see what took us to this where we go,
now we long past of biological control of insects who agree in human terms to co-operate and who are as humans : forced and threatened by poisons if they do not obey for a work that is needed,
but up from there, there is the kind of another dimensional bugs, that She is on a bout a bit (YT: video search: super asha individual surviving ),
but on these arias, we have to stop a bit and think, can they really access as they want or not, and if they do, in what state of reality, in material sense, our body really is
9 May 2017 02:25
Margus Meigo replied to Ilaria Shahnenko's comment.
sinusugused tarkurid, peavad ka normaalseks, et iga kevad või sügi ostetakse külma rohtusi, et nina on tatine ja et käiakse apteegi vahet, samalajal, kui "Minusugused" sellist nähtust väga harvaks peavad, et üldse arstijuurde minna.
Ühe korra vist viimase viie 5e+ aasta jooksul olnud haige ja see tuleneb ka väga ekstreemsetest oludest, ja loomulikult ei teinud apteek mind terveks.
Mis silmadel viga siis ?
Sinule teadmiseks, et "silmad sees" on minu liigi eripära, juba 10 a tagasi silma opil käidud, kui veel igast saasta sai järatud (ja sellepärast ka tihti haige oldud) öeldi mulle, et nad ei saa tava aparaati kasutada, sest silmad on liiga sügaval tava kolmadega arvestades.
Minusuguste ja nende suundade najal mida toetan on veel elumõte planeedil alles, sest röövliigid kes siia tulid (kahejalgsed), ja kes siiralt utoopilist peapesu usuvad, et siin "algusest saati võitlus käinud" ja "kambas jahtimised" jms utoopia,
planeedil hakkas aregus allakäik toimuma kui karjakasvatusega tegelema hakati, Sulle teadmiseks
Ühe korra vist viimase viie 5e+ aasta jooksul olnud haige ja see tuleneb ka väga ekstreemsetest oludest, ja loomulikult ei teinud apteek mind terveks.
Mis silmadel viga siis ?
Sinule teadmiseks, et "silmad sees" on minu liigi eripära, juba 10 a tagasi silma opil käidud, kui veel igast saasta sai järatud (ja sellepärast ka tihti haige oldud) öeldi mulle, et nad ei saa tava aparaati kasutada, sest silmad on liiga sügaval tava kolmadega arvestades.
Minusuguste ja nende suundade najal mida toetan on veel elumõte planeedil alles, sest röövliigid kes siia tulid (kahejalgsed), ja kes siiralt utoopilist peapesu usuvad, et siin "algusest saati võitlus käinud" ja "kambas jahtimised" jms utoopia,
planeedil hakkas aregus allakäik toimuma kui karjakasvatusega tegelema hakati, Sulle teadmiseks
9 May 2017 00:28
Margus Meigo replied to Ilaria Shahnenko's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov selles asi ongi, et sina oleks ekstreem ja fanaatik, arvates, et nii ongi, et ongi ainult üks inimliik ja selle ajalugu.
"inimene peabki sööma kõike" nu tere loogika
"inimene peabki sööma kõike" nu tere loogika
9 May 2017 00:19
Margus Meigo commented on David Pearce's post.
Group: The Hedonistic Imperative
Elementary really, but they should add "if used correctly"9 May 2017 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to Ilaria Shahnenko's comment.
kui mõtlema hakata, mis nahk tegelikult on siis ikka tegu suht jah.. .
muidugi kendal ikka jalatsid on mingisugusest nahast ja tõesti parimad mida siiamaani tean, mu arust ikka on päris nahk lõhna järgi.. kuid see vist .. kui nad lihaõgardite tarvis lehmi nagunii tapavad, siis peaks lehma nahast piisama kõigile 10 x selt planeedil, kui Nahka nahana vaja on,
Mine tea, selles osas pole lõplikult otsustanud veel, ikka kui juba ohvedatakse lehm lihaõgardite tarvis siis parem vast kõik ära kasutada kui raisata väärt keha teise oma.. ja siis juuurde piinata hulk loomi...
Kuid jah.. kui kanepist juba Ford oma esimese auto tegi, kui sellest plastikut tehakse ja mida iganes, mul sõbral väga asjalikud ilmastikukindlad jalatsid kanepist.. et mis me siin nii kinni oleme neis asjades, proovime ikka inimlikult mõelda, kuidas oleks Võimalik neil elu paremaks teha, keda pole vaja ohverdada, kelle ohverdus pole kriitilise vajadusega inimliigi ellujäämiseks (ja me peaksime ainult selleks ju ellu jääma, et aidata looodust ja siin maal lokkavat kurjust puhastada ja likvideerida nii vaimselt kui maiselt)
muidugi kendal ikka jalatsid on mingisugusest nahast ja tõesti parimad mida siiamaani tean, mu arust ikka on päris nahk lõhna järgi.. kuid see vist .. kui nad lihaõgardite tarvis lehmi nagunii tapavad, siis peaks lehma nahast piisama kõigile 10 x selt planeedil, kui Nahka nahana vaja on,
Mine tea, selles osas pole lõplikult otsustanud veel, ikka kui juba ohvedatakse lehm lihaõgardite tarvis siis parem vast kõik ära kasutada kui raisata väärt keha teise oma.. ja siis juuurde piinata hulk loomi...
Kuid jah.. kui kanepist juba Ford oma esimese auto tegi, kui sellest plastikut tehakse ja mida iganes, mul sõbral väga asjalikud ilmastikukindlad jalatsid kanepist.. et mis me siin nii kinni oleme neis asjades, proovime ikka inimlikult mõelda, kuidas oleks Võimalik neil elu paremaks teha, keda pole vaja ohverdada, kelle ohverdus pole kriitilise vajadusega inimliigi ellujäämiseks (ja me peaksime ainult selleks ju ellu jääma, et aidata looodust ja siin maal lokkavat kurjust puhastada ja likvideerida nii vaimselt kui maiselt)
8 May 2017 22:30
Margus Meigo replied to Ilaria Shahnenko's comment.
mis arvad, et teise looma surnud nahka, surnud keha ja energiat enda seljas kanda, et see hoiab inimese siis kindlamalt vaimsemalt tervemana ja paremana eriti kui ta veel austusega sellesse msuhtuda ei mõista
8 May 2017 22:25
Margus Meigo replied to Ilaria Shahnenko's comment.
ma ei tea miks inimesed aru ei saa, et meil on AMMU materiale, nagu kanep, mis suht enamus vajadused ära täidab, linasest riided jne,
Eesti teadlased ka veel minig muu nahataolise materiali just leiutasid.. ega see ikka loodud lõpuks selleks, see naha asi mis nad meile ohverdavad, et õpiksime ise endale, oma vajalikku inahka tootma
Eesti teadlased ka veel minig muu nahataolise materiali just leiutasid.. ega see ikka loodud lõpuks selleks, see naha asi mis nad meile ohverdavad, et õpiksime ise endale, oma vajalikku inahka tootma
8 May 2017 22:25
Margus Meigo replied to Imre Väin's comment.
nu siis ongi vaja ju, KASVATAMA, selles osas, et kasvatus ei seisne kellegi elus hoidmises,
nagu loomade kasvatamine, ei seisne selles, et neil süda veel tuksub
nagu loomade kasvatamine, ei seisne selles, et neil süda veel tuksub
8 May 2017 22:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ehk need siiamaale ei jõua, kuigi PunaMust vist siin maal ka..
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/PunaMust
Kuig väga kahju, et ei saanutki sellest foorumist arhiivi tehtud, et kes seal on ja mida räägib, seda ikka tulevikumõttes tarvis oleks olnud
Suur aktiivne foorum mis neil oli, enam pole aktiivne ( to aeg olid nad väga aktiivsed http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/punamust-me-ei-tee-koostood-oise-vahtkonnaga?id=18291197 )
Nüüd ainult 700 liikmega FB leht järgi.. https://www.facebook.com/punamust hmm
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/PunaMust
Kuig väga kahju, et ei saanutki sellest foorumist arhiivi tehtud, et kes seal on ja mida räägib, seda ikka tulevikumõttes tarvis oleks olnud
Suur aktiivne foorum mis neil oli, enam pole aktiivne ( to aeg olid nad väga aktiivsed http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/punamust-me-ei-tee-koostood-oise-vahtkonnaga?id=18291197 )
Nüüd ainult 700 liikmega FB leht järgi.. https://www.facebook.com/punamust hmm
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/PunaMust
8 May 2017 21:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ise sääl squatterite eluoluga kokku puutudes ja elades, ikka sai uskumatuid kogemusi, osadel neil gruppidel, oli ametlik sloogan seinapeal, et nemad perestruktuuri ja kuninganna vastu on, kuid just eriti perestruktuuri, nagu ema ja isa mees/maine suhte vastu. Sellised tegelased, pikkades tanksaabastes
8 May 2017 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Et sellised vennad:
https://en.squat.net/tag/autonomous-nation-of-anarchist-libertarians/
https://en.squat.net/tag/autonomous-nation-of-anarchist-libertarians/
https://en.squat.net/tag/autonomous-nation-of-anarchist-libertarians/
8 May 2017 21:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tänapäeva popimad anarhistid kes meedias on, on puhta puna jõudude kommarite vorbitud peded ja fassistliku käitumisega liberaalid
ja pedede all, ma mõtlen sõna otseses mõttes, need kes endale võtavad nimeks " Anaalne " ja seisavad LGBT (või mis see lyhend oli) õiguste eest
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4179310/Squatters-finally-evicted-oligarch-s-15m-London-home.html
ja pedede all, ma mõtlen sõna otseses mõttes, need kes endale võtavad nimeks " Anaalne " ja seisavad LGBT (või mis see lyhend oli) õiguste eest
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4179310/Squatters-finally-evicted-oligarch-s-15m-London-home.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4179310/Squatters-finally-evicted-oligarch-s-15m-London-home.html
8 May 2017 21:44
Margus Meigo replied to Imre Väin's comment.
inimesi v
8 May 2017 21:36
Margus Meigo commented on Reg Mar's post.
Group: Väsimatud pläkutajad
Nu ma olen õnnelik ja üksi juba ammusest ajast ja see teeb omamoodi nukraks sisemiselt, peaaegu,8 May 2017 21:24
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
kuid mis koht see selline olla võis, et seda niiii pikalt
8 May 2017 20:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Väga loeb ikka mis video esimeseks paned, sellel videol millel millegagi pistmist polnud, on u 700 vaatamist,
ja moned videod edasi, kuni selle videoni mis põhiline, selleni jõudes ainult 4 vaatamist samas albumis.. on ikka kiire elu enamusel
ja moned videod edasi, kuni selle videoni mis põhiline, selleni jõudes ainult 4 vaatamist samas albumis.. on ikka kiire elu enamusel
8 May 2017 20:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja oleks seda kõike veel daamilikult ütlenud, Michellilikult, oleks veelgi parem olnud pikas plaanis, kuid eks oma komuunile vaja ka seda juurde lisada
8 May 2017 20:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
on ikka tegelased
8 May 2017 20:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei sa oma liigigi arengut kogu aksepteeritavas mahus arusaamisele viidud, mis on surm ja mis on elu ja siis siin arendame loodust
8 May 2017 20:30
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Valtin's post.
olgem ausad, suht igasugune looma kasvatus inimese poolt on haige tegevus peaaegu alati,
me ei saa iseendagi kasvatamisega hakkama ja siis siin kasvatame loodust, anna olla
me ei saa iseendagi kasvatamisega hakkama ja siis siin kasvatame loodust, anna olla
8 May 2017 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
8 May 2017 19:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
still wear's a suit tho.. so not jet there completely
8 May 2017 18:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Well, link some here as well when it is a humor hour,
"you have to go to Siberia to get firewood"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhZOi2y75SM
"you have to go to Siberia to get firewood"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhZOi2y75SM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhZOi2y75SM
8 May 2017 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on Margus Kiis's post.
Anarhistide jaoks oli see ikkagi meeldiv uudis või
8 May 2017 12:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
piisab vähem kui 50 nest eestlasest
8 May 2017 11:48
Margus Meigo commented on Emil Rutiku's post.
lambakari, seda NIII lihtne peatada
8 May 2017 11:48
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's post.
for a couples, unless it is not a moon cleaning time, naked is really only way to go, would feel strange to have clothes on then..
8 May 2017 07:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
then be ready to be in starvation in all levels
8 May 2017 07:06
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's post.
a bit lucky for me to escape from it early but ... as long there is not many who would support you on this decision.. then..
8 May 2017 07:06
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's post.
good one
8 May 2017 07:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
other one seems hybrid all together, who have known predefined values
will be clad to mistake on it in future
will be clad to mistake on it in future
8 May 2017 06:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
No offense but still, someone must
say that
https://www.facebook.com/InstituteForCulturalDiplomacy/photos/pcb.10155210020237673/10155210014932673/?type=3&theater
say that
https://www.facebook.com/InstituteForCulturalDiplomacy/photos/pcb.10155210020237673/10155210014932673/?type=3&theater
8 May 2017 06:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Yeah, German soft power,
example, i know kids
Who told they have been arrested and imprisoned, just for talking about Hitler,
no one sees these kind of arrest when people talk a bout Stalin, even if they do it strongly positive manner
... soft power.. has forced this nation to be soft weapon against anyone who try to stop this not soft power who invaded Germany over again , seems outside,
but inside i guess a bit smarter alies are at work
example, i know kids
Who told they have been arrested and imprisoned, just for talking about Hitler,
no one sees these kind of arrest when people talk a bout Stalin, even if they do it strongly positive manner
... soft power.. has forced this nation to be soft weapon against anyone who try to stop this not soft power who invaded Germany over again , seems outside,
but inside i guess a bit smarter alies are at work
8 May 2017 06:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Soft power requires a consistent, unwavering foreign policy, said Donfried, the cultural institute director.
“Unfortunately, the USA, for many periods of time, has not had consistency,” he told the audience. However, Germany was a case study of a state that shook off its dark past to become a highly-regarded country.
“If you look at German foreign policy since the end of the Second World War until now, it’s fairly consistent in terms of soft power,” Donfried said, citing the Germany’s reputation for educational programmes as an example.
“That gives much more credibility to cultural diplomacy.”
“Unfortunately, the USA, for many periods of time, has not had consistency,” he told the audience. However, Germany was a case study of a state that shook off its dark past to become a highly-regarded country.
“If you look at German foreign policy since the end of the Second World War until now, it’s fairly consistent in terms of soft power,” Donfried said, citing the Germany’s reputation for educational programmes as an example.
“That gives much more credibility to cultural diplomacy.”
8 May 2017 05:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
well, genocide of natural Earth loving human species who do not want to obey the Roman empire / communists /capitalists is going on, (some can say meat eaters vs. vegetarians or patriarchy vs matriarchy , relating to last sentence)
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“How do they define identity? It is not just an Arab issue, all countries and peoples have to work out how they define themselves. But they have to answer the question: what does it mean to be an Emirati, or a Qatari?”
He warned against generalizations. “There is a tendency to generalize in the US; they talk of ‘Islamic civilization.’ But really the Islamic world is too big to generalize like that… there is a big difference between Muslims in Tunisia, New York City and Indonesia,” he said.
“I think it is as wrong to talk of Islamic civilization as it is to generalize about Western civilization,” he added.
Exchange and dialogue are essential if there is to be a greater understanding between the US and Arab world. “Both sides just have to get to know as many citizens from other countries as possible, via tourism or exchange programs for students, journalists and anybody interested in other cultures. You cannot overestimate the benefit of education and comparative religious studies in this process.
“Once people begin to understand another culture, it makes it difficult for any extremist — a Trump or a Bin Laden — to generalize about other people,” he added.
He said that it was not the job of media in the Arab world to persuade others to take a different view. “Arabs should do the best they can to let others know the strengths as well as weaknesses, but I would advise to try not to persuade. There is a reason why we have two ears but only one mouth — we should listen more and talk less.”
Donfried said it was difficult to imagine international standards being imposed on Arab media. “It is difficult to impose universal human rights, and I think it would be difficult to impose universal media standards on local media culture. It is hard to come up with one system that suits all. Consumers of media should embrace all inputs — social media, mainstream media and official media — but treat them skeptically.
“Even then, as the case of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq showed, it’s difficult to be entirely sure what is going on,” he added.
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“How do they define identity? It is not just an Arab issue, all countries and peoples have to work out how they define themselves. But they have to answer the question: what does it mean to be an Emirati, or a Qatari?”
He warned against generalizations. “There is a tendency to generalize in the US; they talk of ‘Islamic civilization.’ But really the Islamic world is too big to generalize like that… there is a big difference between Muslims in Tunisia, New York City and Indonesia,” he said.
“I think it is as wrong to talk of Islamic civilization as it is to generalize about Western civilization,” he added.
Exchange and dialogue are essential if there is to be a greater understanding between the US and Arab world. “Both sides just have to get to know as many citizens from other countries as possible, via tourism or exchange programs for students, journalists and anybody interested in other cultures. You cannot overestimate the benefit of education and comparative religious studies in this process.
“Once people begin to understand another culture, it makes it difficult for any extremist — a Trump or a Bin Laden — to generalize about other people,” he added.
He said that it was not the job of media in the Arab world to persuade others to take a different view. “Arabs should do the best they can to let others know the strengths as well as weaknesses, but I would advise to try not to persuade. There is a reason why we have two ears but only one mouth — we should listen more and talk less.”
Donfried said it was difficult to imagine international standards being imposed on Arab media. “It is difficult to impose universal human rights, and I think it would be difficult to impose universal media standards on local media culture. It is hard to come up with one system that suits all. Consumers of media should embrace all inputs — social media, mainstream media and official media — but treat them skeptically.
“Even then, as the case of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq showed, it’s difficult to be entirely sure what is going on,” he added.
8 May 2017 05:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Another smarty, with a red tie, but important true points still..
"Mark Donfried, founder and director general of the Berlin-based Institute for Cultural Diplomacy (ICD), is not surprised at the comparatively low level of knowledge in the US about the Arab world, as revealed in a recent YouGov/Arab News survey.
“Between 70 and 80 percent of Americans don’t have passports and so don’t go abroad. Most of the ones who do go to Canada and Mexico, some to Europe, but few of them make it to the Middle East,” he said.
The poll, conducted from March 17-21, found that 65 percent of respondents admitted to knowing little about the Arab world, with 30 percent having no interest in understanding the region further. Over three quarters of the respondents said they would not consider traveling to the Arab world, with 39 percent saying the whole region is too dangerous to visit.
Donfried said that, while Americans have the best educational and university facilities in the world, they did not really expose themselves to wider news sources, outside US news networks and social media.
“I don’t think the sentiment behind ‘Make America Great Again’ is particularly new. The US has always viewed itself as something of an island. But in the past its leaders have worked with its international partners and that isn’t the case anymore,” he said.
The US-born Donfried founded the ICD in 2001 and has since made it into one of the biggest non-profit organizations dedicated to the exchange of views between international communities.
He is due to speak at an Arab News panel discussion on “The Arab Image in the West,” which is set to be held today, the second and concluding day of the Arab Media Forum in Dubai.
Nathan Tek, US State Department spokesman in the Middle East, and Hadley Gamble, a reporter and anchor for CNBC covering the Middle East, Africa and US politics, will also speak on the panel. Faisal J. Abbas, editor in chief of Arab News, will moderate the session.
Donfried said it was important for the Arab world to answer three questions in deciding how to evaluate its international image: how it is presented, how it is perceived, and what is the reality?
www.arabnews.com/node/1093321/media
"Mark Donfried, founder and director general of the Berlin-based Institute for Cultural Diplomacy (ICD), is not surprised at the comparatively low level of knowledge in the US about the Arab world, as revealed in a recent YouGov/Arab News survey.
“Between 70 and 80 percent of Americans don’t have passports and so don’t go abroad. Most of the ones who do go to Canada and Mexico, some to Europe, but few of them make it to the Middle East,” he said.
The poll, conducted from March 17-21, found that 65 percent of respondents admitted to knowing little about the Arab world, with 30 percent having no interest in understanding the region further. Over three quarters of the respondents said they would not consider traveling to the Arab world, with 39 percent saying the whole region is too dangerous to visit.
Donfried said that, while Americans have the best educational and university facilities in the world, they did not really expose themselves to wider news sources, outside US news networks and social media.
“I don’t think the sentiment behind ‘Make America Great Again’ is particularly new. The US has always viewed itself as something of an island. But in the past its leaders have worked with its international partners and that isn’t the case anymore,” he said.
The US-born Donfried founded the ICD in 2001 and has since made it into one of the biggest non-profit organizations dedicated to the exchange of views between international communities.
He is due to speak at an Arab News panel discussion on “The Arab Image in the West,” which is set to be held today, the second and concluding day of the Arab Media Forum in Dubai.
Nathan Tek, US State Department spokesman in the Middle East, and Hadley Gamble, a reporter and anchor for CNBC covering the Middle East, Africa and US politics, will also speak on the panel. Faisal J. Abbas, editor in chief of Arab News, will moderate the session.
Donfried said it was important for the Arab world to answer three questions in deciding how to evaluate its international image: how it is presented, how it is perceived, and what is the reality?
www.arabnews.com/node/1093321/media
8 May 2017 05:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Full one:
The United States and the Arab World need to do more to understand each other, media and diplomacy experts said at the Arab Media Forum in Dubai .
The lack of understanding runs deep: eight-in-ten Americans cannot find the Middle East on a map, a new study found.
A further three-quarters of more than 2,000 Americans surveyed by pollster YouGov for Saudi daily Arab News said they would not want to visit the region.
Yet Arabs are not necessarily well-informed either — and the region’s media bears part of the blame, said Nathan Tek, the US State Department’s Middle East spokesman while speaking at the panel discussion on “The Arab Image in the West.’
“Oftentimes I see the Arab media misreporting about American foreign policy,” the spokesman told a panel of media professionals and academics.
“I see conspiracy theories; I see a constant attack on American foreign policy.”
One path towards greater understanding between cultures is travel — either in the form of tourism or study-abroad programmes, a strategy sometimes referred to as ‘cultural diplomacy.’
“I think every government should consider strongly doing some more to bring a wide range of Americans overseas to the Arab world,” said Tek.
Americans would then get the opportunity to “experience Arab culture first-hand,” instead of relying on pre-conceived notions of the region.
‘Preaching to the choir’
This soft approach, however, carries a few caveats, said Mark Donfried, the director of the Institute for Cultural Diplomacy, a Berlin-based thinktank.
“I think this issue of preaching to the choir, so to speak, or preaching to the converted is a problem, fundamentally, with cultural diplomacy,” he said.
“The vast majority of Americans don’t even have a passport.”
And Americans who do have passports, he told the audience, are usually not too likely to travel too far overseas.
“We have to reach not those 35 per cent with a passport, but those who don’t have one.”
Earlier this week, the UAE announced the launch of a Soft Power Council that aims to boost its position and project its values across the world.
Panellists noted that the concept of ‘soft power’ — defined as projecting might and status through lighter, more attractive means, had worked well to achieve the goals of some western countries.
gulfnews.com/news/uae/culture/arabs-and-americans-how-can-they-understand-each-other-1.2020817
The United States and the Arab World need to do more to understand each other, media and diplomacy experts said at the Arab Media Forum in Dubai .
The lack of understanding runs deep: eight-in-ten Americans cannot find the Middle East on a map, a new study found.
A further three-quarters of more than 2,000 Americans surveyed by pollster YouGov for Saudi daily Arab News said they would not want to visit the region.
Yet Arabs are not necessarily well-informed either — and the region’s media bears part of the blame, said Nathan Tek, the US State Department’s Middle East spokesman while speaking at the panel discussion on “The Arab Image in the West.’
“Oftentimes I see the Arab media misreporting about American foreign policy,” the spokesman told a panel of media professionals and academics.
“I see conspiracy theories; I see a constant attack on American foreign policy.”
One path towards greater understanding between cultures is travel — either in the form of tourism or study-abroad programmes, a strategy sometimes referred to as ‘cultural diplomacy.’
“I think every government should consider strongly doing some more to bring a wide range of Americans overseas to the Arab world,” said Tek.
Americans would then get the opportunity to “experience Arab culture first-hand,” instead of relying on pre-conceived notions of the region.
‘Preaching to the choir’
This soft approach, however, carries a few caveats, said Mark Donfried, the director of the Institute for Cultural Diplomacy, a Berlin-based thinktank.
“I think this issue of preaching to the choir, so to speak, or preaching to the converted is a problem, fundamentally, with cultural diplomacy,” he said.
“The vast majority of Americans don’t even have a passport.”
And Americans who do have passports, he told the audience, are usually not too likely to travel too far overseas.
“We have to reach not those 35 per cent with a passport, but those who don’t have one.”
Earlier this week, the UAE announced the launch of a Soft Power Council that aims to boost its position and project its values across the world.
Panellists noted that the concept of ‘soft power’ — defined as projecting might and status through lighter, more attractive means, had worked well to achieve the goals of some western countries.
gulfnews.com/news/uae/culture/arabs-and-americans-how-can-they-understand-each-other-1.2020817
8 May 2017 05:50
Margus Meigo commented on Academy for Cultural Diplomacy's link.
“Oftentimes I see the Arab media misreporting about American foreign policy,” the spokesman told a panel of media professionals and academics.
“I see conspiracy theories; I see a constant attack on American foreign policy.”
fast speaking man really
https://www.facebook.com/GulfNews.UAE/videos/1487863857946534/
“I see conspiracy theories; I see a constant attack on American foreign policy.”
fast speaking man really
https://www.facebook.com/GulfNews.UAE/videos/1487863857946534/
8 May 2017 05:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and these clothes called "suits" are also not really love orientated or culturally peace bringing,
we must understand this if we want to bring peace in world, there is no peace as long people war these fake uniforms, that are destructive to any human culture in all meaningful levels
we must understand this if we want to bring peace in world, there is no peace as long people war these fake uniforms, that are destructive to any human culture in all meaningful levels
8 May 2017 05:42
Margus Meigo commented on Academy for Cultural Diplomacy's photo.
we should ban the red ties, ties generally
8 May 2017 05:40
Margus Meigo commented on Academy for Cultural Diplomacy's video.
Beautiful but still makes me sad
8 May 2017 05:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Alati meeles,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx6TMJO3stw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx6TMJO3stw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx6TMJO3stw
8 May 2017 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on Siret Pender's photo.
Õige keskond : )
8 May 2017 02:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid lootust on : )
8 May 2017 02:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oleme testiks teinud naiste kontosi kohtingu portaalides, ja päevadega on ilma liialdamatta, saja kirja ligi kiiresti kohal, kui piisav pilt panna,
igasuguste ila juttude ja lillede jms varjantidega, naad oelks kõik väga püüdlikud selle teooria puhul mis siin mainitud... kuid kuidas siis EDASi tegeleda, mis küsimusi küsida mehelt ja keda miks vältida, SELLIST õetust kahjuks eriti ei jagata...
ja veelgi hullem, millistele meestele endast märku anda, kui tunned, et on vaja, sellist õpetust ammugi ei promota asjalikult,
kuigi ega noh, enamus linna tüdrukud tänapäeval õiget armastust ja õiget kogdu taga ajagi enam... selleks on pea juba liiga meediat täis ja süda suletud, saagiks tehtud eelpoolmainitud shaakalitele
igasuguste ila juttude ja lillede jms varjantidega, naad oelks kõik väga püüdlikud selle teooria puhul mis siin mainitud... kuid kuidas siis EDASi tegeleda, mis küsimusi küsida mehelt ja keda miks vältida, SELLIST õetust kahjuks eriti ei jagata...
ja veelgi hullem, millistele meestele endast märku anda, kui tunned, et on vaja, sellist õpetust ammugi ei promota asjalikult,
kuigi ega noh, enamus linna tüdrukud tänapäeval õiget armastust ja õiget kogdu taga ajagi enam... selleks on pea juba liiga meediat täis ja süda suletud, saagiks tehtud eelpoolmainitud shaakalitele
8 May 2017 02:33
Margus Meigo commented on Siret Pender's post.
Kuid see peab vastastikune olema,
meelega mitte vastata pidevalt või ignoreerida, siis tundelised mehed kellel austust on, keda naised tegelikult sooviks, neid enam nad ei saa, vaid saavad need tulnukad kes pidevalt peale käivad ja robotina 24 ilma austusetundeta mis iganes kelbast ajavad, et püksituteni pääseda ja siis vaatavad edasi.
Kuigi tõepõhine tekst mis ta ütles, siis see tänapäeva maailmas ainiti ei toimi... siis looduslikud mehed kes ei ole shaakalid need püütakse omakorda naishaakalite polt ülesse kes jääb nende ainukeseks valikuks, sest plikad on ise arusaamatusse sattunud ja koguvad erinevate meeste laike, selleasemel, et meelega öelda kõikidele, kellest mehe huvi pole, et hoitku eemale
ja selle müra keskel, pärast nad ise satuvad lõksu kus asuvad valima.. ja valida saavad enamasti nende seast kes peale käivad, ja sellises lotus õiged mehed ammu enam ei hakka osalema
(arusaadav peab olema, et kõik kes kaheljalal, vast enamus, ei prugi inimesed olla eks, siin ammu inimligi ülevõtt käib, kuid las see teema olla)
meelega mitte vastata pidevalt või ignoreerida, siis tundelised mehed kellel austust on, keda naised tegelikult sooviks, neid enam nad ei saa, vaid saavad need tulnukad kes pidevalt peale käivad ja robotina 24 ilma austusetundeta mis iganes kelbast ajavad, et püksituteni pääseda ja siis vaatavad edasi.
Kuigi tõepõhine tekst mis ta ütles, siis see tänapäeva maailmas ainiti ei toimi... siis looduslikud mehed kes ei ole shaakalid need püütakse omakorda naishaakalite polt ülesse kes jääb nende ainukeseks valikuks, sest plikad on ise arusaamatusse sattunud ja koguvad erinevate meeste laike, selleasemel, et meelega öelda kõikidele, kellest mehe huvi pole, et hoitku eemale
ja selle müra keskel, pärast nad ise satuvad lõksu kus asuvad valima.. ja valida saavad enamasti nende seast kes peale käivad, ja sellises lotus õiged mehed ammu enam ei hakka osalema
(arusaadav peab olema, et kõik kes kaheljalal, vast enamus, ei prugi inimesed olla eks, siin ammu inimligi ülevõtt käib, kuid las see teema olla)
8 May 2017 02:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et ma sõnatu oleks, peab päris palju vaeva nägema, seega saavutus seegi, provin tagasi siia suunduda, kui ikka mingi mõte seoses sellega tuleb,
Põhi mure oli mul, et kas ta enam kusele kunagi minna saab, kas sellele ta mõtles ka v, kui sellise sügavusega okkad, läbi kuskilt lähevad
Põhi mure oli mul, et kas ta enam kusele kunagi minna saab, kas sellele ta mõtles ka v, kui sellise sügavusega okkad, läbi kuskilt lähevad
8 May 2017 02:22
Margus Meigo commented on Vahur Vahtramägi's post.
sõnatuks võtab
8 May 2017 02:20
Margus Meigo commented on Gayle Bailey's post.
Group: Tucker Carlson Fox News
The joke is, in hard level the " Sir " part if anyone missed6 May 2017 21:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
that every real tree has on usage, own time when can be used, personality and worlds in it (and as man, in the end, that Women is only common natural way for ones soul to get to in here where is needed)
6 May 2017 18:10
Margus Meigo commented on Diana Veleva's post.
As if persons are in side of anti-human, anti-nature, atheists in large scale, then they not able to understand so easily in great part that plants and trees are living beings
6 May 2017 18:08
Margus Meigo commented on Diana Veleva's post.
and ironic is they name it " Why Facts Don’t Change Our Minds "
but same time it was clear proof, that they do, in instant,
as students took superiors as facts, as great part of planet to lock them in to total slavery are trained to fallow and trust the intellect (instead of instinct,what is part of true intelligence), so
" At the end of the experiment, the students were asked once again about their views. Those who’d started out pro-capital punishment were now even more in favor of it; those who’d opposed it were even more hostile. "
and in another test proved, that when students was told that opposing side is not superior (not facts, not intellect) then they even turn against them self in half of times (as they remember, their knowings to be based on facts, superiors, what they protected in their mind) :
"the answers presented to them as someone else’s were actually their own, and vice versa. About half the participants realized what was going on. Among the other half, suddenly people became a lot more critical. Nearly sixty per cent now rejected the responses that they’d earlier been satisfied with. "
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But as we do not know these tests background, in what kind of belief system what student was, how much was in what part of religion or satanist-atheists and what version of religion (like real Christianity or faker liberal-Catholics, or Lutherans who in core are against Matriarchal Earth-loving Jews, etc), then great part of these tests are a bit useless to interpret.
but same time it was clear proof, that they do, in instant,
as students took superiors as facts, as great part of planet to lock them in to total slavery are trained to fallow and trust the intellect (instead of instinct,what is part of true intelligence), so
" At the end of the experiment, the students were asked once again about their views. Those who’d started out pro-capital punishment were now even more in favor of it; those who’d opposed it were even more hostile. "
and in another test proved, that when students was told that opposing side is not superior (not facts, not intellect) then they even turn against them self in half of times (as they remember, their knowings to be based on facts, superiors, what they protected in their mind) :
"the answers presented to them as someone else’s were actually their own, and vice versa. About half the participants realized what was going on. Among the other half, suddenly people became a lot more critical. Nearly sixty per cent now rejected the responses that they’d earlier been satisfied with. "
--
But as we do not know these tests background, in what kind of belief system what student was, how much was in what part of religion or satanist-atheists and what version of religion (like real Christianity or faker liberal-Catholics, or Lutherans who in core are against Matriarchal Earth-loving Jews, etc), then great part of these tests are a bit useless to interpret.
6 May 2017 18:06
Margus Meigo commented on Diana Veleva's post.
and :
Sloman and Fernbach see in this result a little candle for a dark world. If we—or our friends or the pundits on CNN—spent less time pontificating and more trying to work through the implications of policy proposals, we’d realize how clueless we are and moderate our views. This, they write, “may be the only form of thinking that will shatter the illusion of explanatory depth and change people’s attitudes.”
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Their concern is with those persistent beliefs which are not just demonstrably false but also potentially deadly, like the conviction that vaccines are hazardous. Of course, what’s hazardous is not being vaccinated; that’s why vaccines were created in the first place. “Immunization is one of the triumphs of modern medicine,” the Gormans note. But no matter how many scientific studies conclude that vaccines are safe, and that there’s no link between immunizations and autism, anti-vaxxers remain unmoved. (They can now count on their side—sort of—Donald Trump, who has said that, although he and his wife had their son, Barron, vaccinated, they refused to do so on the timetable recommended by pediatricians.)
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The Gormans don’t just want to catalogue the ways we go wrong; they want to correct for them. There must be some way, they maintain, to convince people that vaccines are good for kids, and handguns are dangerous. (Another widespread but statistically insupportable belief they’d like to discredit is that owning a gun makes you safer.) But here they encounter the very problems they have enumerated. Providing people with accurate information doesn’t seem to help; they simply discount it. Appealing to their emotions may work better, but doing so is obviously antithetical to the goal of promoting sound science. “The challenge that remains,” they write toward the end of their book, “is to figure out how to address the tendencies that lead to false scientific belief.”
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They cite research suggesting that people experience genuine pleasure—a rush of dopamine—when processing information that supports their beliefs. “It feels good to ‘stick to our guns’ even if we are wrong,” they observe.
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// in ere again, as the ones who made study, are NOT humans (not human based knowledge or thinking frame), they not understand basic of human thinking, reason and godliness.
Any time when person feels useful of serving, it is enjoyment to think good what you believe as it is generating positive evolution
as you going forward so it is elementary that pleasure centers are activated for whole many reasons that is the existence f humans ,
So it is not that we are tied to think wrong as it get's us dopamine this is side effect, but thinking RIGHT in belief that we do GOOD releases dopamine as it is belief related thing , but if worded like this as they then it looks much more simplistic and another way then it is. They look and test still a person on digital signal bases,
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“The Enigma of Reason,” “The Knowledge Illusion,” and “Denying to the Grave” were all written before the November election. And yet they anticipate Kellyanne Conway and the rise of “alternative facts.” These days, it can feel as if the entire country has been given over to a vast psychological experiment being run either by no one or by Steve Bannon. Rational agents would be able to think their way to a solution. But, on this matter, the literature is not reassuring
Sloman and Fernbach see in this result a little candle for a dark world. If we—or our friends or the pundits on CNN—spent less time pontificating and more trying to work through the implications of policy proposals, we’d realize how clueless we are and moderate our views. This, they write, “may be the only form of thinking that will shatter the illusion of explanatory depth and change people’s attitudes.”
--
Their concern is with those persistent beliefs which are not just demonstrably false but also potentially deadly, like the conviction that vaccines are hazardous. Of course, what’s hazardous is not being vaccinated; that’s why vaccines were created in the first place. “Immunization is one of the triumphs of modern medicine,” the Gormans note. But no matter how many scientific studies conclude that vaccines are safe, and that there’s no link between immunizations and autism, anti-vaxxers remain unmoved. (They can now count on their side—sort of—Donald Trump, who has said that, although he and his wife had their son, Barron, vaccinated, they refused to do so on the timetable recommended by pediatricians.)
-
The Gormans don’t just want to catalogue the ways we go wrong; they want to correct for them. There must be some way, they maintain, to convince people that vaccines are good for kids, and handguns are dangerous. (Another widespread but statistically insupportable belief they’d like to discredit is that owning a gun makes you safer.) But here they encounter the very problems they have enumerated. Providing people with accurate information doesn’t seem to help; they simply discount it. Appealing to their emotions may work better, but doing so is obviously antithetical to the goal of promoting sound science. “The challenge that remains,” they write toward the end of their book, “is to figure out how to address the tendencies that lead to false scientific belief.”
--
They cite research suggesting that people experience genuine pleasure—a rush of dopamine—when processing information that supports their beliefs. “It feels good to ‘stick to our guns’ even if we are wrong,” they observe.
¤¤¤
// in ere again, as the ones who made study, are NOT humans (not human based knowledge or thinking frame), they not understand basic of human thinking, reason and godliness.
Any time when person feels useful of serving, it is enjoyment to think good what you believe as it is generating positive evolution
as you going forward so it is elementary that pleasure centers are activated for whole many reasons that is the existence f humans ,
So it is not that we are tied to think wrong as it get's us dopamine this is side effect, but thinking RIGHT in belief that we do GOOD releases dopamine as it is belief related thing , but if worded like this as they then it looks much more simplistic and another way then it is. They look and test still a person on digital signal bases,
----
“The Enigma of Reason,” “The Knowledge Illusion,” and “Denying to the Grave” were all written before the November election. And yet they anticipate Kellyanne Conway and the rise of “alternative facts.” These days, it can feel as if the entire country has been given over to a vast psychological experiment being run either by no one or by Steve Bannon. Rational agents would be able to think their way to a solution. But, on this matter, the literature is not reassuring
6 May 2017 17:49
Margus Meigo commented on Diana Veleva's post.
But many good points in this article, mainly :
Stripped of a lot of what might be called cognitive-science-ese, Mercier and Sperber’s argument runs, more or less, as follows: Humans’ biggest advantage over other species is our ability to coöperate. Coöperation is difficult to establish and almost as difficult to sustain. For any individual, freeloading is always the best course of action. Reason developed not to enable us to solve abstract, logical problems or even to help us draw conclusions from unfamiliar data; rather, it developed to resolve the problems posed by living in collaborative groups.
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At the end of the experiment, the students were asked once again about their views. Those who’d started out pro-capital punishment were now even more in favor of it; those who’d opposed it were even more hostile.
--
In step three, participants were shown one of the same problems, along with their answer and the answer of another participant, who’d come to a different conclusion. Once again, they were given the chance to change their responses. But a trick had been played: the answers presented to them as someone else’s were actually their own, and vice versa. About half the participants realized what was going on. Among the other half, suddenly people became a lot more critical. Nearly sixty per cent now rejected the responses that they’d earlier been satisfied with.
--
In a study conducted at Yale, graduate students were asked to rate their understanding of everyday devices, including toilets, zippers, and cylinder locks. They were then asked to write detailed, step-by-step explanations of how the devices work, and to rate their understanding again. Apparently, the effort revealed to the students their own ignorance, because their self-assessments dropped. (Toilets, it turns out, are more complicated than they appear.)
Stripped of a lot of what might be called cognitive-science-ese, Mercier and Sperber’s argument runs, more or less, as follows: Humans’ biggest advantage over other species is our ability to coöperate. Coöperation is difficult to establish and almost as difficult to sustain. For any individual, freeloading is always the best course of action. Reason developed not to enable us to solve abstract, logical problems or even to help us draw conclusions from unfamiliar data; rather, it developed to resolve the problems posed by living in collaborative groups.
--
At the end of the experiment, the students were asked once again about their views. Those who’d started out pro-capital punishment were now even more in favor of it; those who’d opposed it were even more hostile.
--
In step three, participants were shown one of the same problems, along with their answer and the answer of another participant, who’d come to a different conclusion. Once again, they were given the chance to change their responses. But a trick had been played: the answers presented to them as someone else’s were actually their own, and vice versa. About half the participants realized what was going on. Among the other half, suddenly people became a lot more critical. Nearly sixty per cent now rejected the responses that they’d earlier been satisfied with.
--
In a study conducted at Yale, graduate students were asked to rate their understanding of everyday devices, including toilets, zippers, and cylinder locks. They were then asked to write detailed, step-by-step explanations of how the devices work, and to rate their understanding again. Apparently, the effort revealed to the students their own ignorance, because their self-assessments dropped. (Toilets, it turns out, are more complicated than they appear.)
6 May 2017 17:43
Margus Meigo commented on Diana Veleva's post.
Well made pro vaccine propaganda for a liberal mind (placing facts in one side that You oppose and pro-vacine on that side what You should accept unless you are "them" . But them are the side what they are tricking you on, giving away the belief about:
"ever since we figured out how to hunt together, which was probably a key development in our evolutionary history."
this is "other side" deeper level propaganda, on that level who invade this planet, as they would not want You to think, that there has been vegetarian species of real humans and another versions, namely the ones that was tied to a horses and was not deeply spiritual as finno-ugri people, who was with thousands of years forced away from entire this aria that is called "Russia" now, ... as there was the hunter species who have been violent and undeveloped spiritual matters from beginning of the time, who are good and combat against others in co-operation mind and there is another, local humans
)
"ever since we figured out how to hunt together, which was probably a key development in our evolutionary history."
this is "other side" deeper level propaganda, on that level who invade this planet, as they would not want You to think, that there has been vegetarian species of real humans and another versions, namely the ones that was tied to a horses and was not deeply spiritual as finno-ugri people, who was with thousands of years forced away from entire this aria that is called "Russia" now, ... as there was the hunter species who have been violent and undeveloped spiritual matters from beginning of the time, who are good and combat against others in co-operation mind and there is another, local humans
)
6 May 2017 17:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
interesting, that this new scientist people also get to there now, as there was a lot of new old school thought holders that ignored these kind of basic, for long time,
but then again.. do they really go deep enough in to it..
but then again.. do they really go deep enough in to it..
6 May 2017 17:07
Margus Meigo commented on Diana Veleva's post.
elementary
6 May 2017 17:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
godly
6 May 2017 17:04
Margus Meigo commented on Diana Veleva's post.
As long they will do proper farming or managing protection of woods, something for their family that is nature intelligence that can be inherited to kids and something that they do for ford betterment at large, is all alright, ..
.. or if it is not, it is just living of nicely for one generation and kids children will be slaves of the system again,
as have to be understood, Any kind of community that offers leisure time and good life, will be looked at, analyzed and put in to many kind of political and sociological programs by many different minded organizations,
this is elementary, besides all spiritual and goodly
.. or if it is not, it is just living of nicely for one generation and kids children will be slaves of the system again,
as have to be understood, Any kind of community that offers leisure time and good life, will be looked at, analyzed and put in to many kind of political and sociological programs by many different minded organizations,
this is elementary, besides all spiritual and goodly
6 May 2017 17:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Communists, Anarchists, Socialists United Front.
was that also used or how was used differently in Marx and Lenin time?6 May 2017 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on Marcel van der Kommie's post.
Group: Communists, Anarchists, Socialists United Front.
Do You believe in love spells ?
(look my #kuminaLinda post)6 May 2017 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
What about that , no wonder we run out of love
http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/wiki/Category:Love_Drawing%2C_Romance%2C_Marriage%2C_Fidelity%2C_and_Reconciliation
Clients seek out hoodoo rootworkers to cast love spells for a number of different reasons, ranging from a desire to attract a suitable partner for marriage and starting a family, to finding a partner interested in a casual one night fling. Some clients want just to get a date, others want a long-time dating partner to present a proposal of marriage. Some married clients want to have more sexual fulfillment in their marriages and others want to put an end to squabbles and fusses within a marriage or to stop a mate from running around. Some want to re-unite with an ex-lover who is lost and long out of contact, others want to bring back a lover who has just walked out the door.
Love drawing and romance spells are the most commonly requested kinds of spell work. Virtually every psychic reader, palm reader, and tarot card reader understands the need their clients have for love, and certainly every spiritual practitioner who performs altar work with prayers, does candles spell magic, makes mojo bags for passion or doll babies for love, or crafts honey jars for romance and reconiliation is familiar with the hoodoo, rootwork, and conjure techniques to sustain the strength of marriages that are under stress whether from within or due to outside influences.
http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/wiki/Category:Love_Drawing%2C_Romance%2C_Marriage%2C_Fidelity%2C_and_Reconciliation
Clients seek out hoodoo rootworkers to cast love spells for a number of different reasons, ranging from a desire to attract a suitable partner for marriage and starting a family, to finding a partner interested in a casual one night fling. Some clients want just to get a date, others want a long-time dating partner to present a proposal of marriage. Some married clients want to have more sexual fulfillment in their marriages and others want to put an end to squabbles and fusses within a marriage or to stop a mate from running around. Some want to re-unite with an ex-lover who is lost and long out of contact, others want to bring back a lover who has just walked out the door.
Love drawing and romance spells are the most commonly requested kinds of spell work. Virtually every psychic reader, palm reader, and tarot card reader understands the need their clients have for love, and certainly every spiritual practitioner who performs altar work with prayers, does candles spell magic, makes mojo bags for passion or doll babies for love, or crafts honey jars for romance and reconiliation is familiar with the hoodoo, rootwork, and conjure techniques to sustain the strength of marriages that are under stress whether from within or due to outside influences.
http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/wiki/Category:Love_Drawing%2C_Romance%2C_Marriage%2C_Fidelity%2C_and_Reconciliation
6 May 2017 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 May 2017 02:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
THis link,
most of the page is full of lack of the hair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pubic_hair#Styling
most of the page is full of lack of the hair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pubic_hair#Styling
6 May 2017 02:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Yep, that seems fine
6 May 2017 02:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Is it allowed to post it like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pubic_hair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pubic_hair
6 May 2017 02:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
better jet
6 May 2017 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
.:.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10211740869573966&set=pb.1135161043.-2207520000.1494026745.&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10211740869573966&set=pb.1135161043.-2207520000.1494026745.&type=3&theater
6 May 2017 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on Heiki Matsalu's post.
Nu un Britid :)
6 May 2017 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on Laura Adamson's post.
Väga asjakohane, kui eellugu filmiloost endast teate ja kogu filosoofiat siduda, kaasa lennata suuta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUezhpuEoE
et asi on ikka naljast kaugel..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUezhpuEoE
et asi on ikka naljast kaugel..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUezhpuEoE
5 May 2017 17:05
Margus Meigo commented on Laura Adamson's post.
Kuid jah.. pidage ikka meeles, et ikka oma looduslike energiaid ei blokeeeriks, ja eelkõige, kõige olulisem, et KUNAGI pealtpoolt ei viili maha ega lõhu naturalset hingeakna kihti või kuidas seda kutsutakse.
Et osad lausa plassmassi sinna peale kleebivad ja siis uuesti eemaldavad... ja veel lakieemaldaja mürk veel omakorda kehasse, et need on naistevastased relvad, mis siia ilma toodud nagu kontsakingad, kõrvadesse augu tegemised, metalli kandmine, blondeerimine (kuigi sellel teistmoodi, teatud hingede tarvis kaitse thenoloogia funtsioon ka " pettuseks ") ning teadmatude lõhutud kivide kandmine ja veel palju muud, suures osas mõtte tasandil, kuid oluline kontroll, mis kõiki naisi uuesti peale suurte edude ja tarkuste haaramist tagasi "oma positsiooni" lukustab, on nagu mehel lipsu klandmine, naisel kontsakingad ja uskumine, et peab ennast teistsuguseks muudma, looduslikku osa endast, liialt... ja siis sellega juba iseendast ütleb lahti, ja arvab ennast naturaalsena vähemväärt olema ja veeelgi, laseb teistel ka sedasi arvata.. et jah, selline teada tuli siiis, tehke sellega miskit mida vaja (kohivdest, valgest suhkrust, alkoholist, suitsust, vilkuvate/kiiresti vahelduvate piltidega teleekraanidest jms ei hakka rääkimagi)
Et osad lausa plassmassi sinna peale kleebivad ja siis uuesti eemaldavad... ja veel lakieemaldaja mürk veel omakorda kehasse, et need on naistevastased relvad, mis siia ilma toodud nagu kontsakingad, kõrvadesse augu tegemised, metalli kandmine, blondeerimine (kuigi sellel teistmoodi, teatud hingede tarvis kaitse thenoloogia funtsioon ka " pettuseks ") ning teadmatude lõhutud kivide kandmine ja veel palju muud, suures osas mõtte tasandil, kuid oluline kontroll, mis kõiki naisi uuesti peale suurte edude ja tarkuste haaramist tagasi "oma positsiooni" lukustab, on nagu mehel lipsu klandmine, naisel kontsakingad ja uskumine, et peab ennast teistsuguseks muudma, looduslikku osa endast, liialt... ja siis sellega juba iseendast ütleb lahti, ja arvab ennast naturaalsena vähemväärt olema ja veeelgi, laseb teistel ka sedasi arvata.. et jah, selline teada tuli siiis, tehke sellega miskit mida vaja (kohivdest, valgest suhkrust, alkoholist, suitsust, vilkuvate/kiiresti vahelduvate piltidega teleekraanidest jms ei hakka rääkimagi)
5 May 2017 17:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyVu-ePp4jM&index=29&list=PLx6XO8MEC8JDJIHCdaDqARVSoAQaloyE4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyVu-ePp4jM&index=29&list=PLx6XO8MEC8JDJIHCdaDqARVSoAQaloyE4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyVu-ePp4jM&index=29&list=PLx6XO8MEC8JDJIHCdaDqARVSoAQaloyE4
5 May 2017 05:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(no homo in the end)
5 May 2017 05:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 May 2017 22:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi kui ma pentagrammi osas uurima hakkasin, siis puutini grupist kohe ära bänniti, minutiga umbes, väga kiired adminnid neil
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1506866446256893/
Proovisin küll ilusti ja mitte solvavalt uurida, et siduda viisnurga asja ameerika, holliwoodi ja hilise EU ning osade moslemite ning nõidadega kes viisnurga otsas .. ja nagu neile selle pähe määrisid ja neis selle viisnurga otsa trikitasid, et nad end süüdi ja süüdistatuna ei tunneks.. kuid ikka võeti kuidagi solvanguna..
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1506866446256893/
Proovisin küll ilusti ja mitte solvavalt uurida, et siduda viisnurga asja ameerika, holliwoodi ja hilise EU ning osade moslemite ning nõidadega kes viisnurga otsas .. ja nagu neile selle pähe määrisid ja neis selle viisnurga otsa trikitasid, et nad end süüdi ja süüdistatuna ei tunneks.. kuid ikka võeti kuidagi solvanguna..
3 May 2017 22:11
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Mihkelson's post.
Tõsimeelseid:
https://www.facebook.com/ambasadarus/posts/691063367748328
https://www.facebook.com/ambasadarus/posts/691063367748328
3 May 2017 22:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So to be truly pro Russian is now not allowed?
Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia
Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia
3 May 2017 22:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Putin Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/1506866446256893 ban me for this comment, instantly from a group, really strange behavior when someone will make great help for them to become free from this trick of pentagram
3 May 2017 22:05
Margus Meigo commented on Veľvyslanectvo Ruska na Slovensku/ Посольство России в Словакии's photo.
But looks great meeting, a lot of serious people !
3 May 2017 22:02
Margus Meigo commented on Veľvyslanectvo Ruska na Slovensku/ Посольство России в Словакии's photo.
Why one dude hold there red flag with a Pentagram, or the big red star on,
i thought they understood by now what it is about and that this is not "pro russia" to worship five star, the same stars that are all over EU, some Islam & USA flags and Hollywood witchcraft products.
Now we smarter, we should know how to free our self from it,
i thought they understood by now what it is about and that this is not "pro russia" to worship five star, the same stars that are all over EU, some Islam & USA flags and Hollywood witchcraft products.
Now we smarter, we should know how to free our self from it,
3 May 2017 22:01
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Tuisk's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Globalism on nagu Rassism, väga heaasi, kui õigesti seda arusaadakse ja kasutatakse3 May 2017 19:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
http://register.muinas.ee/public.php?menuID=monument&action=view&id=9812
http://register.muinas.ee/public.php?menuID=monument&action=view&id=9812
2 May 2017 13:07
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kuid võib ka öelda "mul era, isiklikud asjad olid"
Mis on ka tõde ,ja pole ka vale
Ja kui see ei sobi töökohale, siis tuleks töökohta vahetada.
Kuid jah, selles osas õigus küll, et paljudele see vastukarva nagunii
Mis on ka tõde ,ja pole ka vale
Ja kui see ei sobi töökohale, siis tuleks töökohta vahetada.
Kuid jah, selles osas õigus küll, et paljudele see vastukarva nagunii
2 May 2017 12:36
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
nu see oleks normaalne seletus,
kui inimseste juures töötad, kui aga ei tööta inimeste juures, vaid süsteemi osas kus teisi teenimisega ennast orjastad ja oma vabaduse mahamüüd, siis muidugi hakatakse emotsionaalselt välja pressima
kui inimseste juures töötad, kui aga ei tööta inimeste juures, vaid süsteemi osas kus teisi teenimisega ennast orjastad ja oma vabaduse mahamüüd, siis muidugi hakatakse emotsionaalselt välja pressima
2 May 2017 12:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vider, eks
Kas mitte need "sarlatanid" tooaeg teadlasteks ennast ei nimetanud ?
"Utoopial ja jabural propagandal põhinev ühiskond ei saanudki sallida erialasid, mis põhinesid teaduslikul maailmapildil ja kainel loogikal, au sees olid hoopis kõikvõimalikud šarlatanid, kes kavandasid looduse alistamist ja jõgede tagurpidi pööramist. Sama lugu on tänapäeva „visionääridega”, kes kategooriliselt eitavad ülikoolides õpetatavaid tõdesid ja tuustivad selle asemel internetis, et teada saada, kuidas asjad „päriselt” on. "
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/arvamus/vabad-eeslid?id=78027336
Kas mitte need "sarlatanid" tooaeg teadlasteks ennast ei nimetanud ?
"Utoopial ja jabural propagandal põhinev ühiskond ei saanudki sallida erialasid, mis põhinesid teaduslikul maailmapildil ja kainel loogikal, au sees olid hoopis kõikvõimalikud šarlatanid, kes kavandasid looduse alistamist ja jõgede tagurpidi pööramist. Sama lugu on tänapäeva „visionääridega”, kes kategooriliselt eitavad ülikoolides õpetatavaid tõdesid ja tuustivad selle asemel internetis, et teada saada, kuidas asjad „päriselt” on. "
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/arvamus/vabad-eeslid?id=78027336
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/arvamus/vabad-eeslid?id=78027336
2 May 2017 12:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and main issue is, that nearly no one is doing anything about it ... just see, how many backfire comments the 'se unneeded comments get?
And we know what is result of this ? The kids will not dare to be nice anymore and good feelings that was with it will turn sour for even the one who had best part from it , for some personality types it would be so easy .. she knows history.. so perhaps she is prepared to these kind of tongues
And we know what is result of this ? The kids will not dare to be nice anymore and good feelings that was with it will turn sour for even the one who had best part from it , for some personality types it would be so easy .. she knows history.. so perhaps she is prepared to these kind of tongues
2 May 2017 11:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// kind of related, about Humans & situations we are in with that species.
There is a lot of nice people in a world (we take effort and dare do niceness like this, in a video), but unfortunately, we still live among the ones, in a situation ,where SO great percentage % of a COMMENTS (read, skim first 50. they short), under this kind of video are like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B6Pjl9eLGE
There is a lot of nice people in a world (we take effort and dare do niceness like this, in a video), but unfortunately, we still live among the ones, in a situation ,where SO great percentage % of a COMMENTS (read, skim first 50. they short), under this kind of video are like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B6Pjl9eLGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B6Pjl9eLGE
2 May 2017 11:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Full long story:
"Like the instrument in “The Red Violin,” this one has a past filled with mystery and malice. Twice, it was stolen from its illustrious prior owner, the Polish virtuoso Bronislaw Huberman. The first time, in 1919, it disappeared from Huberman’s hotel room in Vienna but was quickly returned. The second time, nearly 20 years later, it was pinched from his dressing room in Carnegie Hall. He never got it back. It was not until 1985 that the thief -- a minor New York violinist -- made a deathbed confession to his wife, and produced the instrument.
Bell bought it a few years ago. He had to sell his own Strad and borrow much of the rest. The price tag was reported to be about $3.5 million.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/pearls-before-breakfast-can-one-of-the-nations-great-musicians-cut-through-the-fog-of-a-dc-rush-hour-lets-find-out/2014/09/23/8a6d46da-4331-11e4-b47c-f5889e061e5f_story.html
"Like the instrument in “The Red Violin,” this one has a past filled with mystery and malice. Twice, it was stolen from its illustrious prior owner, the Polish virtuoso Bronislaw Huberman. The first time, in 1919, it disappeared from Huberman’s hotel room in Vienna but was quickly returned. The second time, nearly 20 years later, it was pinched from his dressing room in Carnegie Hall. He never got it back. It was not until 1985 that the thief -- a minor New York violinist -- made a deathbed confession to his wife, and produced the instrument.
Bell bought it a few years ago. He had to sell his own Strad and borrow much of the rest. The price tag was reported to be about $3.5 million.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/pearls-before-breakfast-can-one-of-the-nations-great-musicians-cut-through-the-fog-of-a-dc-rush-hour-lets-find-out/2014/09/23/8a6d46da-4331-11e4-b47c-f5889e061e5f_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/pearls-before-breakfast-can-one-of-the-nations-great-musicians-cut-through-the-fog-of-a-dc-rush-hour-lets-find-out/2014/09/23/8a6d46da-4331-11e4-b47c-f5889e061e5f_story.html
2 May 2017 11:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
well, got my eyes on tears anyway
so nice
the street orchestra and kids reactions
so nice
the street orchestra and kids reactions
2 May 2017 11:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And You know, violin is not my instrument, as it is a horn kind of elite tool, and made many years with hurt of horse, but story it self is worth to mention
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj6r3-sQr58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj6r3-sQr58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj6r3-sQr58
2 May 2017 11:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJhZ0J3bIYc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJhZ0J3bIYc
2 May 2017 11:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Analysis: True story. For 45 minutes on the morning of Jan. 12, 2007, concert violinist Joshua Bell stood incognito on a Washington, D.C. subway platform and performed classical music for passersby. Video and audio of the performance are available on the Washington Post website.
"No one knew it," explained Washington Post reporter Gene Weingarten several months after the event, "but the fiddler standing against a bare wall outside the Metro in an indoor arcade at the top of the escalators was one of the finest classical musicians in the world, playing some of the most elegant music ever written on one of the most valuable violins ever made." Weingarten came up with the experiment to see how ordinary people would react.
And how did they react? For the most part, not at all. More than a thousand people entered the Metro station as Bell worked his way through a set list of classical masterpieces, but only a few stopped to listen.
Some dropped money in his open violin case (for a total of about $27), but most never even stopped to look, Weingarten wrote.
The text above, penned by an unidentified author and circulated via blogs and email, poses a philosophical question: "If we do not have a moment to stop and listen to one of the best musicians in the world playing the best music ever written, how many other things are we missing?"
Which is fair to ask.
The demands and distractions of our fast-paced workaday world can indeed stand in the way of appreciating truth and beauty and other contemplative delights when we encounter them. But it's equally fair to point out that there's an appropriate time and place for everything, including classical music. Was such an experiment really necessary to determine that a busy subway platform during rush hour might not be conducive to an appreciation of the sublime? Probably not, though it makes for an interesting story just the same.
https://www.thoughtco.com/a-violinist-in-the-metro-3299658
"No one knew it," explained Washington Post reporter Gene Weingarten several months after the event, "but the fiddler standing against a bare wall outside the Metro in an indoor arcade at the top of the escalators was one of the finest classical musicians in the world, playing some of the most elegant music ever written on one of the most valuable violins ever made." Weingarten came up with the experiment to see how ordinary people would react.
And how did they react? For the most part, not at all. More than a thousand people entered the Metro station as Bell worked his way through a set list of classical masterpieces, but only a few stopped to listen.
Some dropped money in his open violin case (for a total of about $27), but most never even stopped to look, Weingarten wrote.
The text above, penned by an unidentified author and circulated via blogs and email, poses a philosophical question: "If we do not have a moment to stop and listen to one of the best musicians in the world playing the best music ever written, how many other things are we missing?"
Which is fair to ask.
The demands and distractions of our fast-paced workaday world can indeed stand in the way of appreciating truth and beauty and other contemplative delights when we encounter them. But it's equally fair to point out that there's an appropriate time and place for everything, including classical music. Was such an experiment really necessary to determine that a busy subway platform during rush hour might not be conducive to an appreciation of the sublime? Probably not, though it makes for an interesting story just the same.
https://www.thoughtco.com/a-violinist-in-the-metro-3299658
https://www.thoughtco.com/a-violinist-in-the-metro-3299658
2 May 2017 11:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
A Violinist in the Metro
A man sat at a metro station in Washington DC and started to play the violin; it was a cold January morning. He played six Bach pieces for about 45 minutes. During that time, since it was rush hour, it was calculated that thousand of people went through the station, most of them on their way to work.
Three minutes went by and a middle aged man noticed there was musician playing. He slowed his pace and stopped for a few seconds and then hurried up to meet his schedule.
A minute later, the violinist received his first dollar tip: a woman threw the money in the till and without stopping continued to walk.
A few minutes later, someone leaned against the wall to listen to him, but the man looked at his watch and started to walk again. Clearly he was late for work.
The one who paid the most attention was a 3 year old boy. His mother tagged him along, hurried but the kid stopped to look at the violinist. Finally the mother pushed hard and the child continued to walk turning his head all the time. This action was repeated by several other children. All the parents, without exception, forced them to move on.
In the 45 minutes the musician played, only 6 people stopped and stayed for a while. About 20 gave him money but continued to walk their normal pace. He collected $32. When he finished playing and silence took over, no one noticed it. No one applauded, nor was there any recognition.
No one knew this but the violinist was Joshua Bell, one of the best musicians in the world. He played one of the most intricate pieces ever written with a violin worth 3.5 million dollars.
Two days before his playing in the subway, Joshua Bell sold out at a theater in Boston and the seats average $100.
This is a real story. Joshua Bell playing incognito in the metro station was organized by the Washington Post as part of an social experiment about perception, taste and priorities of people. The outlines were: in a commonplace environment at an inappropriate hour: Do we perceive beauty? Do we stop to appreciate it? Do we recognize the talent in an unexpected context?
One of the possible conclusions from this experience could be:
If we do not have a moment to stop and listen to one of the best musicians in the world playing the best music ever written, how many other things are we missing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnOPu0_YWhw
A man sat at a metro station in Washington DC and started to play the violin; it was a cold January morning. He played six Bach pieces for about 45 minutes. During that time, since it was rush hour, it was calculated that thousand of people went through the station, most of them on their way to work.
Three minutes went by and a middle aged man noticed there was musician playing. He slowed his pace and stopped for a few seconds and then hurried up to meet his schedule.
A minute later, the violinist received his first dollar tip: a woman threw the money in the till and without stopping continued to walk.
A few minutes later, someone leaned against the wall to listen to him, but the man looked at his watch and started to walk again. Clearly he was late for work.
The one who paid the most attention was a 3 year old boy. His mother tagged him along, hurried but the kid stopped to look at the violinist. Finally the mother pushed hard and the child continued to walk turning his head all the time. This action was repeated by several other children. All the parents, without exception, forced them to move on.
In the 45 minutes the musician played, only 6 people stopped and stayed for a while. About 20 gave him money but continued to walk their normal pace. He collected $32. When he finished playing and silence took over, no one noticed it. No one applauded, nor was there any recognition.
No one knew this but the violinist was Joshua Bell, one of the best musicians in the world. He played one of the most intricate pieces ever written with a violin worth 3.5 million dollars.
Two days before his playing in the subway, Joshua Bell sold out at a theater in Boston and the seats average $100.
This is a real story. Joshua Bell playing incognito in the metro station was organized by the Washington Post as part of an social experiment about perception, taste and priorities of people. The outlines were: in a commonplace environment at an inappropriate hour: Do we perceive beauty? Do we stop to appreciate it? Do we recognize the talent in an unexpected context?
One of the possible conclusions from this experience could be:
If we do not have a moment to stop and listen to one of the best musicians in the world playing the best music ever written, how many other things are we missing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnOPu0_YWhw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnOPu0_YWhw
2 May 2017 11:21
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Vilbaste's photo.
Väga reaalsed inimesed tunduvafd
2 May 2017 09:41
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
ga midagi sääl oikka oli
2 May 2017 09:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Not related but, Salesforce and IBM both declined to comment on this story.:
The new partnership amounts to a way for IBM to sell consulting services across both Salesforce’s Einstein and IBM’s Watson AI-branded businesses.
Insights from Watson will now be available directly in Salesforce’s Intelligent Customer Success platform, mixing Einstein’s customer relationship data with Watson’s stores of structured and unstructured data that include weather, healthcare, financial services and retail, the companies said.
“Within a few years, every major decision — personal or business — will be made with the help of AI and cognitive technologies,” said Ginni Rometty, chairman, president and chief executive officer, IBM, in a statement.
Rometty said that IBM expects Watson to “touch” 1 billion people — through everything from oncology and retail to tax preparation and cars (no word on whether they’re also including advertising in that figure, but they may be… IBM runs a lot of Watson ads).
“The combination of Einstein and Watson will make businesses smarter and our customers more successful,” said Marc Benioff, chairman and chief executive of Salesforce, in a statement. “I’m thrilled to form an alliance with IBM — no company’s core values are as close to Salesforce’s as IBM’s. It’s the best of both worlds.”
In spite of Benioff’s hyperbole, you can’t escape the fact that these two companies make strange bedfellows, and it’s not crystal clear how well the two intelligence products will integrate or how chummy the two companies will be.
According to the statement, the two companies will be rolling out a Watson integration with Einstein through APIs, all the better to target customers. The two companies presented a “fer instance” where Einstein data on customers could be integrated with weather and broad retail industry data to send email campaigns to shoppers.
Indeed, the weather integration seems to be the crown jewel of the partnership, with IBM touting that Salesforce AppExchange will include its Weather Company business as a lightning component providing weather updates that inform customer interactions.
Finally, and perhaps most importantly, IBM’s consulting company Bluewolf will create a practice unit for Salesforce’s Einstein software and services. While IBM’s integration suite for Salesforce will be available at the end of March, the rest of the integrated services won’t be rolled out til the second half of the year.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/03/06/ibm-and-salesforce-partner-to-sell-watson-and-einstein/
The new partnership amounts to a way for IBM to sell consulting services across both Salesforce’s Einstein and IBM’s Watson AI-branded businesses.
Insights from Watson will now be available directly in Salesforce’s Intelligent Customer Success platform, mixing Einstein’s customer relationship data with Watson’s stores of structured and unstructured data that include weather, healthcare, financial services and retail, the companies said.
“Within a few years, every major decision — personal or business — will be made with the help of AI and cognitive technologies,” said Ginni Rometty, chairman, president and chief executive officer, IBM, in a statement.
Rometty said that IBM expects Watson to “touch” 1 billion people — through everything from oncology and retail to tax preparation and cars (no word on whether they’re also including advertising in that figure, but they may be… IBM runs a lot of Watson ads).
“The combination of Einstein and Watson will make businesses smarter and our customers more successful,” said Marc Benioff, chairman and chief executive of Salesforce, in a statement. “I’m thrilled to form an alliance with IBM — no company’s core values are as close to Salesforce’s as IBM’s. It’s the best of both worlds.”
In spite of Benioff’s hyperbole, you can’t escape the fact that these two companies make strange bedfellows, and it’s not crystal clear how well the two intelligence products will integrate or how chummy the two companies will be.
According to the statement, the two companies will be rolling out a Watson integration with Einstein through APIs, all the better to target customers. The two companies presented a “fer instance” where Einstein data on customers could be integrated with weather and broad retail industry data to send email campaigns to shoppers.
Indeed, the weather integration seems to be the crown jewel of the partnership, with IBM touting that Salesforce AppExchange will include its Weather Company business as a lightning component providing weather updates that inform customer interactions.
Finally, and perhaps most importantly, IBM’s consulting company Bluewolf will create a practice unit for Salesforce’s Einstein software and services. While IBM’s integration suite for Salesforce will be available at the end of March, the rest of the integrated services won’t be rolled out til the second half of the year.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/03/06/ibm-and-salesforce-partner-to-sell-watson-and-einstein/
https://techcrunch.com/2017/03/06/ibm-and-salesforce-partner-to-sell-watson-and-einstein/
2 May 2017 08:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
EINSTEIN 3 is another matter. This technology would scan and
analyze not just metadata, but
also
content. Information would be stored on
suspicion
of being malware, not on the knowledge that it is so. Harvard Law
School
Professor Jack Goldsmith has argued that using EINSTEIN
-
type
technologies to monitor communications for malware is akin to conducting
“
non
-
law
-
enforcement searches without individualized
suspicion in
numerous contexts,” and cited highway checkpoints and in
spections of
regulated businesses as precedent for such monitoring sans warrants
--
There are a large (and growing)
number of energy providers
communicating in complex ways over a mix of public and private networks.
According to Lockheed Martin, by 2015 the smart grid will offer up to 440
million potential points of attack
.
71
Not only is power highly distributed to
mill
ions of customers,
but also
power generation is increasingly distributed,
with a large number of small providers, including individual households,
contributing energy to the grid. These “last mile” networks are an important
part of the cyber
security probl
em facing the power grid, but they are hard
to protect without a large
-
scale deployment of security infrastructure.
analyze not just metadata, but
also
content. Information would be stored on
suspicion
of being malware, not on the knowledge that it is so. Harvard Law
School
Professor Jack Goldsmith has argued that using EINSTEIN
-
type
technologies to monitor communications for malware is akin to conducting
“
non
-
law
-
enforcement searches without individualized
suspicion in
numerous contexts,” and cited highway checkpoints and in
spections of
regulated businesses as precedent for such monitoring sans warrants
--
There are a large (and growing)
number of energy providers
communicating in complex ways over a mix of public and private networks.
According to Lockheed Martin, by 2015 the smart grid will offer up to 440
million potential points of attack
.
71
Not only is power highly distributed to
mill
ions of customers,
but also
power generation is increasingly distributed,
with a large number of small providers, including individual households,
contributing energy to the grid. These “last mile” networks are an important
part of the cyber
security probl
em facing the power grid, but they are hard
to protect without a large
-
scale deployment of security infrastructure.
2 May 2017 08:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
In an effort to protect its computer systems from malevolent actors, the U.S.
government has developed a series of intrusion
-
detection and intrusion
-
prevention systems aimed at monitoring and screening traffic between the
internet and government systems. W
ith EINSTEIN 3, the government now
may seek
to do the same for private critical infrastructure networks.
This article considers the practical considerations associated with
EINSTEIN 3 that indicate the program is not likely to be effective.
Considering di
fferences in scale, the inability to dictate hardware and
software choices to private parties, and the different regulatory framework
for government action in the private sector, this Article discusses why the
government may be unable to effectively implem
ent EINSTEIN 3 across
the private networks serving critical infrastructure. Looking at what
EINSTEIN aims to protect, what it is capable of protecting, and how
privacy considerations affect possible solutions, this Article provides
suggestions as to how to
amend the EINSTEIN program to better protect
critical infrastructure
http://harvardnsj.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Vol.-3_Bellovin_Bradner_Diffie_Landau_Rexford.pdf
government has developed a series of intrusion
-
detection and intrusion
-
prevention systems aimed at monitoring and screening traffic between the
internet and government systems. W
ith EINSTEIN 3, the government now
may seek
to do the same for private critical infrastructure networks.
This article considers the practical considerations associated with
EINSTEIN 3 that indicate the program is not likely to be effective.
Considering di
fferences in scale, the inability to dictate hardware and
software choices to private parties, and the different regulatory framework
for government action in the private sector, this Article discusses why the
government may be unable to effectively implem
ent EINSTEIN 3 across
the private networks serving critical infrastructure. Looking at what
EINSTEIN aims to protect, what it is capable of protecting, and how
privacy considerations affect possible solutions, this Article provides
suggestions as to how to
amend the EINSTEIN program to better protect
critical infrastructure
http://harvardnsj.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Vol.-3_Bellovin_Bradner_Diffie_Landau_Rexford.pdf
2 May 2017 08:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Privacy Impact Assessment
US
-
CERT:
Initiave Three Exercise
Page
2
Abstract
Pursuant to Initiative
T
hree of the Comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative, DHS
is engaging in an exercise to demonstrate a suite of technologies
that could be included in the
next generation of the Department’s EINSTEIN network security program. This demonstration,
(commonly referred to as the ―Initiative Three Exercise‖ or, more simply, as ―the Exercise‖) will
use a modified complement of system c
omponents currently providing the EINSTEIN 1 and
EINSTEIN 2 capabilities, as well as a DHS test deployment of technology
developed by the
National Security Agency
(NSA)
that includes an intrusion prevention capability (collectively
referred to as ―the Exercise technology‖). The purpose of the Exercise is to demonstrate the
ability of an existing Internet Service Provider that is a designated
as a
Trusted Internet
Connecti
on Access Provider (TICAP) to select and redirect Internet traffic from a single
participating
government
agency
through the Exercise technology, for US
-
CERT to apply
intrusion detection and prevention measures to that traffic and for US
-
CERT to generate
a
utomated
alerts
about selected cyber threats. This PIA is being conducted because the Exercise
will analyze Internet traffic which may contain personally identifiable information (PII).
Reason for the PIA
Certain aspects of the Exercise are classified. T
he DHS Privacy Office conducted a full
classified PIA of the Exercise and made that PIA available consistent with the classification
restrictions. The DHS Privacy Office conducted this PIA in order to provide public transparency
regarding the publicly rele
asable aspects of its assessment of the Initiative 3 Exercise.
Introduction
:
The Initiative Three Exercise
The Exercise will enable DHS to demonstrate additional capabilities beyond those
available in the EINSTEIN 2 intrusion detection system (IDS). An IDS
primarily observes and
reports or issues alerts about cyber threats. The Exercise will deploy technology that will include
intrusion detection and add intrusion prevention. The Intrusion Prevention System (IPS)
capability to be used in the Exercise will e
nable DHS to
respond appropriately
to counter known
or suspected cyber threats identified within the
participating agency
’s network traffic carried by
the TICAP.
The goal of the Exercise is to pilot EINSTEIN 3 capabilities based on technology
developed by
the NSA and to solidify processes for managing and protecting information
gleaned from observed cyber intrusions against civilian Executive Branch systems.
Once the Exercise is completed, DHS will determine which technologies and
methodologies to use in
implementing the Initiative Three capabilities.
https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/privacy/privacy_pia_nppd_initiative3.pdf
US
-
CERT:
Initiave Three Exercise
Page
2
Abstract
Pursuant to Initiative
T
hree of the Comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative, DHS
is engaging in an exercise to demonstrate a suite of technologies
that could be included in the
next generation of the Department’s EINSTEIN network security program. This demonstration,
(commonly referred to as the ―Initiative Three Exercise‖ or, more simply, as ―the Exercise‖) will
use a modified complement of system c
omponents currently providing the EINSTEIN 1 and
EINSTEIN 2 capabilities, as well as a DHS test deployment of technology
developed by the
National Security Agency
(NSA)
that includes an intrusion prevention capability (collectively
referred to as ―the Exercise technology‖). The purpose of the Exercise is to demonstrate the
ability of an existing Internet Service Provider that is a designated
as a
Trusted Internet
Connecti
on Access Provider (TICAP) to select and redirect Internet traffic from a single
participating
government
agency
through the Exercise technology, for US
-
CERT to apply
intrusion detection and prevention measures to that traffic and for US
-
CERT to generate
a
utomated
alerts
about selected cyber threats. This PIA is being conducted because the Exercise
will analyze Internet traffic which may contain personally identifiable information (PII).
Reason for the PIA
Certain aspects of the Exercise are classified. T
he DHS Privacy Office conducted a full
classified PIA of the Exercise and made that PIA available consistent with the classification
restrictions. The DHS Privacy Office conducted this PIA in order to provide public transparency
regarding the publicly rele
asable aspects of its assessment of the Initiative 3 Exercise.
Introduction
:
The Initiative Three Exercise
The Exercise will enable DHS to demonstrate additional capabilities beyond those
available in the EINSTEIN 2 intrusion detection system (IDS). An IDS
primarily observes and
reports or issues alerts about cyber threats. The Exercise will deploy technology that will include
intrusion detection and add intrusion prevention. The Intrusion Prevention System (IPS)
capability to be used in the Exercise will e
nable DHS to
respond appropriately
to counter known
or suspected cyber threats identified within the
participating agency
’s network traffic carried by
the TICAP.
The goal of the Exercise is to pilot EINSTEIN 3 capabilities based on technology
developed by
the NSA and to solidify processes for managing and protecting information
gleaned from observed cyber intrusions against civilian Executive Branch systems.
Once the Exercise is completed, DHS will determine which technologies and
methodologies to use in
implementing the Initiative Three capabilities.
https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/privacy/privacy_pia_nppd_initiative3.pdf
2 May 2017 08:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.cispaisback.org/
http://www.salon.com/2013/10/21/zombie_cispa_bill_pushes_forward_with_nsa_support/
http://www.salon.com/2013/10/21/zombie_cispa_bill_pushes_forward_with_nsa_support/
https://www.cispaisback.org/
2 May 2017 08:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
@eff #CISPAalert
(4/22/13): The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) has passed the House of Representatives with amendments. This FAQ reflects the bill prior to the amendments
https://www.eff.org/cybersecurity-bill-faq
(4/22/13): The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) has passed the House of Representatives with amendments. This FAQ reflects the bill prior to the amendments
https://www.eff.org/cybersecurity-bill-faq
2 May 2017 08:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Well this was clearly not enought
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act
2 May 2017 08:28
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
motlesin, et eila oligi 30
2 May 2017 07:49
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
asu, nu igatahes mingiaeg ta oli nagu arusain
2 May 2017 07:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
All Vremyas, prantslaste poolt kokku pandud, 1968 kuni tänapäevani, how many You remember?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-7gydo8Vh0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-7gydo8Vh0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-7gydo8Vh0
2 May 2017 07:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Реставрация заставки информационной программы "Время" ЦТ СССР (1970-1975)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCtRzCmHp9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCtRzCmHp9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCtRzCmHp9w
2 May 2017 07:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Намедни 1984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24q3Ik5k-PQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24q3Ik5k-PQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24q3Ik5k-PQ
2 May 2017 07:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Намедни 1983 год с Леонидом Парфёновым
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DhZjuwCZtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DhZjuwCZtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DhZjuwCZtY
2 May 2017 07:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// not so important, but notes
Один день большой страны. 28 декабря 1983 год. Как это было. Главные новости СССР, программа Время
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBQBY8AhvXA
Один день большой страны. 28 декабря 1983 год. Как это было. Главные новости СССР, программа Время
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBQBY8AhvXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBQBY8AhvXA
2 May 2017 07:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 May 2017 07:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Space TV 1977, really spacey (beginning)!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfsWwt0ytfg
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfsWwt0ytfg
2 May 2017 07:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Overtne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcZGUCqM1KA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcZGUCqM1KA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcZGUCqM1KA
2 May 2017 07:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Georgy Sviridov - Time, Forward!
https://youtu.be/TBO_ujPHYYM?t=57
https://youtu.be/TBO_ujPHYYM?t=57
https://youtu.be/TBO_ujPHYYM?t=57
2 May 2017 07:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid huvitav, et just igasugused tunnetusepõhjal suured ritused sai äratehtud ja miskid muud olulised asjad, miskid asjad tuhisesid ringi ilmas ja tundsin, et vaja midagi vastukaaluks kaasa ja ette luua, ... ja nüüd alles siin sain teada, et näe vaat kus lugu, volberdamine oli. Esimest korda see aasta seda sõna kuulsin täna.
2 May 2017 05:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Example phones with same Processor and features (most unmentioned are same between them self)
Nokia Lumia 535, dual sim
Released: 2014
5.0 MP Camera / Video: 480p
Windows OS, Wifi, GPS,
Internal Memory : 8 GB / RAM Size : 1 GB
Memory Support : Upto 128 GB
Cortex A7 Processor, 1.2 Ghz
Stand-by Time : 552 Hrs
Talk Time : 11 Hrs / 3G : 13 Hrs
Music Playback : 80 Hrs / Video 7 Hrs
WiFi Browsing Time : 8 Hrs, Up to 8.5 Hrs
http://www.gsmarena.com/microsoft_lumia_535_dual_sim-6792.php
et vs. see 0.3 megapixline
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_215_dual_sim-6911.php
Meizu MX4 Pro
Released: 2014
Camera: 20.7 MP 5248 x 3936 Pixels !!
Video: 2160p (4K) 30 FPS
Quad Core Cortex A7 Processor (okey, 1.5 version but still)
Internal memory: 64 GB
RAM: 3 GB
Weight : 158g
WIFI & all other extreme features, sensors, streamings, etc.
Performance: Basemark OS II: 922 / Basemark OS II 2.0: 863
Basemark X: 9111
http://www.gsmarc.com/meizu/mx4-pro/
Gionee Marathon M3
Released:2014
8.0 MP Camera / Video: 1080p 30 FPS
microSD, up to 256 GB !!!
Internal 8 GB, 1 GB RAM
Talk Time : 52 Hrs !!!
Stand-by Time : 792 Hrs !!!
Music Playback : 120 Hrs
Video Playback : 13 Hrs
http://www.gsmarena.com/gionee_marathon_m3-6781.php
Lava Iris Fuel 60
Released: 2014
Camera: 10MP / Video: 1080p 30
Talk time: 32h
Stand-by Time : 760 Hrs
http://www.gsmarena.com/lava_iris_fuel_60-6888.php
ZTE Blade Vec 4G LTE
Released: 2014
13 MP Camera / Video: 1080p HD
Cortex A7 Processor, 1.2 Ghz
Internal Memory : 16 GB
RAM Size : 1 GB
Memory support: 32GB
Multipoint-Touch
http://www.gsmarena.com/zte_blade_vec_4g-6645.php
Gigabyte GSmart Mika M3, Dual Sim
Released: 2014
13 MP Camera / Video: 1080p 30 FPS
Internal Memory : 8 GB
http://www.gsmarc.com/gigabyte/gsmart-mika-m3/
Yezz Andy C5QL
Released: 2014
13 MP Camera / Video: 1080p
Front Camera : 5.0 MP
Stand-by Time : 480 Hrs / Talk Time : 16 Hrs
http://www.gsmarena.com/yezz_andy_c5ql-6871.php
BLU Studio Energy
Release: 2015
8.0 MP Camera / video 1080p
Stand-by Time : 1090 Hrs !!! (45 days?)
Talk Time : 52 Hrs !!! (2+ days?)
3G Talk Time : 33 Hrs
Music Playback : Up to 110 Hrs
Video Playback : 13 Hrs
http://www.gsmarena.com/blu_studio_energy-6928.php
i-mobile IQ 1.5 DTV
Released: 2015
Primary Camera : 12 MP
Front Camera : 8.0 MP
HD Video: 1080p
Stand-by Time : 460 Hrs
Talk Time : 9 Hrs
http://www.gsmarc.com/i-mobile/iq-1-5-dtv/
Vodafone Smart 4 Max
Released: 2015
13 MP camera
Video: 1080p
Stand-by Time : 250 Hrs
Talk Time : 7 Hrs
http://www.gsmarena.com/vodafone_smart_4_max-6937.php
Allview P6 Energy
Released: 2015
Stand-by Time : 500 Hrs
Talk Time : 23 Hrs
http://www.gsmarena.com/allview_p6_energy-7597.php
Allview C6 Quad 4G
Released: 2014
Internal Memory : 8 GB
RAM Size : 1 GB
Display : 16M Colors
Primary Camera : 8.0 MP / Video: 1080p HD
http://www.gsmarc.com/model-finder/processor/
Celkon Millennia Epic Q550
Released: 2014
Internal Memory : 16 GB
RAM Size : 1 GB
Primary Camera : 8.0 MP,
Stand-by Time : 320 Hrs, / Talk Time : 12 Hrs
http://www.gsmarena.com/celkon_millennia_epic_q550-6783.php
Prestigio MultiPhone 5507 Duo
Released: 2014
8.0 MP / Video: 1080p
Cortex A7 Processor, 1.2 Ghz
Internal Memory : 8 GB
http://www.gsmarc.com/prestigio/multiphone-5507-duo/
Prestigio MultiPhone 3502 Duo
Release: 2014
8.0 MP Camera, Wifi, Android..
http://www.gsmarc.com/prestigio/multiphone-3502-duo/
Tablet:
Prestigio Multipad Ranger 8.0 4G
Released: 2014
Internal Memory : 8 GB
RAM Size : 1 GB
Primary Camera : 5.0 MP, 2592 x 1944 Pixels
Video: 720p
Talk Time : 13 Hrs,
Stand-by Time : 350 Hrs,
Nokia Lumia 535, dual sim
Released: 2014
5.0 MP Camera / Video: 480p
Windows OS, Wifi, GPS,
Internal Memory : 8 GB / RAM Size : 1 GB
Memory Support : Upto 128 GB
Cortex A7 Processor, 1.2 Ghz
Stand-by Time : 552 Hrs
Talk Time : 11 Hrs / 3G : 13 Hrs
Music Playback : 80 Hrs / Video 7 Hrs
WiFi Browsing Time : 8 Hrs, Up to 8.5 Hrs
http://www.gsmarena.com/microsoft_lumia_535_dual_sim-6792.php
et vs. see 0.3 megapixline
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_215_dual_sim-6911.php
Meizu MX4 Pro
Released: 2014
Camera: 20.7 MP 5248 x 3936 Pixels !!
Video: 2160p (4K) 30 FPS
Quad Core Cortex A7 Processor (okey, 1.5 version but still)
Internal memory: 64 GB
RAM: 3 GB
Weight : 158g
WIFI & all other extreme features, sensors, streamings, etc.
Performance: Basemark OS II: 922 / Basemark OS II 2.0: 863
Basemark X: 9111
http://www.gsmarc.com/meizu/mx4-pro/
Gionee Marathon M3
Released:2014
8.0 MP Camera / Video: 1080p 30 FPS
microSD, up to 256 GB !!!
Internal 8 GB, 1 GB RAM
Talk Time : 52 Hrs !!!
Stand-by Time : 792 Hrs !!!
Music Playback : 120 Hrs
Video Playback : 13 Hrs
http://www.gsmarena.com/gionee_marathon_m3-6781.php
Lava Iris Fuel 60
Released: 2014
Camera: 10MP / Video: 1080p 30
Talk time: 32h
Stand-by Time : 760 Hrs
http://www.gsmarena.com/lava_iris_fuel_60-6888.php
ZTE Blade Vec 4G LTE
Released: 2014
13 MP Camera / Video: 1080p HD
Cortex A7 Processor, 1.2 Ghz
Internal Memory : 16 GB
RAM Size : 1 GB
Memory support: 32GB
Multipoint-Touch
http://www.gsmarena.com/zte_blade_vec_4g-6645.php
Gigabyte GSmart Mika M3, Dual Sim
Released: 2014
13 MP Camera / Video: 1080p 30 FPS
Internal Memory : 8 GB
http://www.gsmarc.com/gigabyte/gsmart-mika-m3/
Yezz Andy C5QL
Released: 2014
13 MP Camera / Video: 1080p
Front Camera : 5.0 MP
Stand-by Time : 480 Hrs / Talk Time : 16 Hrs
http://www.gsmarena.com/yezz_andy_c5ql-6871.php
BLU Studio Energy
Release: 2015
8.0 MP Camera / video 1080p
Stand-by Time : 1090 Hrs !!! (45 days?)
Talk Time : 52 Hrs !!! (2+ days?)
3G Talk Time : 33 Hrs
Music Playback : Up to 110 Hrs
Video Playback : 13 Hrs
http://www.gsmarena.com/blu_studio_energy-6928.php
i-mobile IQ 1.5 DTV
Released: 2015
Primary Camera : 12 MP
Front Camera : 8.0 MP
HD Video: 1080p
Stand-by Time : 460 Hrs
Talk Time : 9 Hrs
http://www.gsmarc.com/i-mobile/iq-1-5-dtv/
Vodafone Smart 4 Max
Released: 2015
13 MP camera
Video: 1080p
Stand-by Time : 250 Hrs
Talk Time : 7 Hrs
http://www.gsmarena.com/vodafone_smart_4_max-6937.php
Allview P6 Energy
Released: 2015
Stand-by Time : 500 Hrs
Talk Time : 23 Hrs
http://www.gsmarena.com/allview_p6_energy-7597.php
Allview C6 Quad 4G
Released: 2014
Internal Memory : 8 GB
RAM Size : 1 GB
Display : 16M Colors
Primary Camera : 8.0 MP / Video: 1080p HD
http://www.gsmarc.com/model-finder/processor/
Celkon Millennia Epic Q550
Released: 2014
Internal Memory : 16 GB
RAM Size : 1 GB
Primary Camera : 8.0 MP,
Stand-by Time : 320 Hrs, / Talk Time : 12 Hrs
http://www.gsmarena.com/celkon_millennia_epic_q550-6783.php
Prestigio MultiPhone 5507 Duo
Released: 2014
8.0 MP / Video: 1080p
Cortex A7 Processor, 1.2 Ghz
Internal Memory : 8 GB
http://www.gsmarc.com/prestigio/multiphone-5507-duo/
Prestigio MultiPhone 3502 Duo
Release: 2014
8.0 MP Camera, Wifi, Android..
http://www.gsmarc.com/prestigio/multiphone-3502-duo/
Tablet:
Prestigio Multipad Ranger 8.0 4G
Released: 2014
Internal Memory : 8 GB
RAM Size : 1 GB
Primary Camera : 5.0 MP, 2592 x 1944 Pixels
Video: 720p
Talk Time : 13 Hrs,
Stand-by Time : 350 Hrs,
http://www.gsmarena.com/microsoft_lumia_535_dual_sim-6792.php
2 May 2017 05:19
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
well, if they was educated individuals in these days, surely they had something...
1 May 2017 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
"The scheme called for a small group of educated individuals to give up their possessions and labor together for the common good"
Why would they need to give up their possessions.. i mean.. no wonder they got in finance trouble, possessions are needed so You got something to share
Why would they need to give up their possessions.. i mean.. no wonder they got in finance trouble, possessions are needed so You got something to share
1 May 2017 16:08
Margus Meigo commented on Dem Detectiveboy's post.
If i would have fiance, i would be second one
1 May 2017 12:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 May 2017 10:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But about the Bid,
I am kind of thinking, She will win it (also, over 20 000 lower offer then some other's):
$80 per hour / I have a Bachelor of Business Studies (Management) (Marketing) from Monash University.
I provide a range of marketing services including:
* marketing plans
* social media strategy and execution
* content creation
* market research
* PR and media relations
www.freelancer.com/u/weathjess.html?ref_project_id=13889060
// will see later
I am kind of thinking, She will win it (also, over 20 000 lower offer then some other's):
$80 per hour / I have a Bachelor of Business Studies (Management) (Marketing) from Monash University.
I provide a range of marketing services including:
* marketing plans
* social media strategy and execution
* content creation
* market research
* PR and media relations
www.freelancer.com/u/weathjess.html?ref_project_id=13889060
// will see later
http://www.freelancer.com/u/weathjess.html?ref_project_id=13889060
1 May 2017 10:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja ma pole küll lapsehoidmise proffaga see suts armastuseta väntsutamine tundus sääl ja mitte eriti emalik..
1 May 2017 10:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Norin meeleg,a teised ainult kiidavad ju :p
1 May 2017 10:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Alguses mõtlesin, et Click OK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm3vXauAelY&list=RDDm3vXauAelY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm3vXauAelY&list=RDDm3vXauAelY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm3vXauAelY&list=RDDm3vXauAelY
1 May 2017 10:20
Margus Meigo commented on Hommik Anuga's video.
Laul on timm aga oleks võinud natuke austust ülesnäidata ja naiselikumad olla,
riietusegi osas, kui mõistust peas ja arusaadakse mis esemed ja rõivad mis moodi mõjuvad nii ajudele kui kehale
riietusegi osas, kui mõistust peas ja arusaadakse mis esemed ja rõivad mis moodi mõjuvad nii ajudele kui kehale
1 May 2017 10:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Laul on timm aga oleks võinud natuke austust ülesnäidata ja naiselikumad olla,
riietusegi osas, kui mõistust peas ja arusaadakse mis esemed ja rõivad mis moodi mõjuvad nii ajudele kui kehale
riietusegi osas, kui mõistust peas ja arusaadakse mis esemed ja rõivad mis moodi mõjuvad nii ajudele kui kehale
1 May 2017 10:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tegelikult on olukord plaju suurem, hullem, ohtlikum ja mitmekesisem, kuid kes seda siin seletada mõistaks ja lugeda jõuaks
1 May 2017 10:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Peaasi, et ikka aru saaksime, mida siin ohtu seame, ja kelle poolt igast kultuuriliste arusaamade muutmise nõuded tulid ja miks ja mis selle taga on,
see on kooskõlas teiste sedustega, mis hiljem tlevad meile "muuseas" et inimese sugu on ebaoluline ja kui keegi usub, et on naine, siis tal õigus nii olla... ja siis see muuseas, peab vastu võtma inimlikuse seaduse kohaselt EUs.. ja siis see tähendab, et nüüd kui vajalikud org on inflatreeritud, siis samamoodi nagu koraldati EU eurolualu ja mingi aasta iludus naise võistlus kus mees oli tegelikult, naise asemel, samamoodi siis ka meil see korraldatakse ja siis enam eisaa vastu vaielda, sest rikuksime inimõigusi rahvusvaheliselt juba ja saaksime suure jama kaela, Kui aga ette mngid reeglid jätame, mis suunavad elutervet arusaama, siis see aitab hoida seda vähestki mis meil on
see on kooskõlas teiste sedustega, mis hiljem tlevad meile "muuseas" et inimese sugu on ebaoluline ja kui keegi usub, et on naine, siis tal õigus nii olla... ja siis see muuseas, peab vastu võtma inimlikuse seaduse kohaselt EUs.. ja siis see tähendab, et nüüd kui vajalikud org on inflatreeritud, siis samamoodi nagu koraldati EU eurolualu ja mingi aasta iludus naise võistlus kus mees oli tegelikult, naise asemel, samamoodi siis ka meil see korraldatakse ja siis enam eisaa vastu vaielda, sest rikuksime inimõigusi rahvusvaheliselt juba ja saaksime suure jama kaela, Kui aga ette mngid reeglid jätame, mis suunavad elutervet arusaama, siis see aitab hoida seda vähestki mis meil on
1 May 2017 10:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi see, on oluline oskus, et NAINE oskab olla piisavalt tark, et VALIB endale mehe kes ei ole joodik ja .. ja kus ta need lapsed saanud kui ta valesti ei valinud, ehk ei olnud piisavalt targa algarusaamaga?
Loomulikult on Eelisõigus nendel naistel, kes suutnud armastusest aru saada ja koos olla mehega, leida mees kelle keskel eluterveid lapsi kasvatada, kui seda oskust ei ole naisel, ega "õnne" siis kuidas nad samavääriliselt samal positsioonilsaavad olla kui need kellel see taju ja oskus on ?
Loomulikult fantast naine saab olla, kes üksi 5 te last kasvatab, aga kas ta on fantastilisem, kui fantast naine'sed kes on suutnud terve pere koos hoida ?
(saatan siin neid asju VÄga edukalt muideks segab ja häirib, sest terve perekond on see mida on raske vaimselt kontrollida ... ja kui kogu riigis terved perekonnad olma hakkavad siis ei saa ka süsteem neile peale suruda miskit enam)
Loomulikult on Eelisõigus nendel naistel, kes suutnud armastusest aru saada ja koos olla mehega, leida mees kelle keskel eluterveid lapsi kasvatada, kui seda oskust ei ole naisel, ega "õnne" siis kuidas nad samavääriliselt samal positsioonilsaavad olla kui need kellel see taju ja oskus on ?
Loomulikult fantast naine saab olla, kes üksi 5 te last kasvatab, aga kas ta on fantastilisem, kui fantast naine'sed kes on suutnud terve pere koos hoida ?
(saatan siin neid asju VÄga edukalt muideks segab ja häirib, sest terve perekond on see mida on raske vaimselt kontrollida ... ja kui kogu riigis terved perekonnad olma hakkavad siis ei saa ka süsteem neile peale suruda miskit enam)
1 May 2017 10:14
Margus Meigo commented on Hommik Anuga's video.
Thehku siis parandus, et "ainult hetero" naine saab olla aasta ema,
Ja seda kultuurilistel põhjustel, et mitte pervotiseerida seda, mis inimkonda elus siiani on hoidnud.
Trikk mida inimsoo vastased läbisuruda proovisid, oli, et ka MITTE naised saaksid aaasta emaks,ehksiis, et tulevikus, transvesTiidust või soovahetuseteinud inimesest, kes lapsendanud kes kuidas iganes illusioonis loodud, saaks endale "Tiitli" et likvideerida naise olemust loojana.
Samamoodi nagu kunstiga tehakse, kus võlts ja väär kunsti ostetakse kallimate hindadega,et kunsti hävitada ja selle olemust (maailma top 100 kallima maalilisti seas, KÕIK mis on peale 1940 võib väärkunstiks, inimsoovastaseks nimetada, .. ja neid seal listis on pea pooled.. ainuke erand selle kommunistlikule pervetsusele sellest listist on siis 1920 nda kandis Venemaa kalleim maal, 60 millioni dollariga, kui seda näete, siis saate ise aru kust see viimaseaja robotikari alguse sai ja mis nende eesmärgid olid kui läbi NY 1940 + abstraktse kunsti koos CIA üle maailma promoma hakkasid kui reaalset asja.... kõik need samad asutused, organisatsioonid on seotud ka nende pere ja homo agendadega, kus naise olemust kui Loojat ja mehest olulisemat, likvideerida proovitakse, eelkõige naiste enda arusaamadest )
Ja seda kultuurilistel põhjustel, et mitte pervotiseerida seda, mis inimkonda elus siiani on hoidnud.
Trikk mida inimsoo vastased läbisuruda proovisid, oli, et ka MITTE naised saaksid aaasta emaks,ehksiis, et tulevikus, transvesTiidust või soovahetuseteinud inimesest, kes lapsendanud kes kuidas iganes illusioonis loodud, saaks endale "Tiitli" et likvideerida naise olemust loojana.
Samamoodi nagu kunstiga tehakse, kus võlts ja väär kunsti ostetakse kallimate hindadega,et kunsti hävitada ja selle olemust (maailma top 100 kallima maalilisti seas, KÕIK mis on peale 1940 võib väärkunstiks, inimsoovastaseks nimetada, .. ja neid seal listis on pea pooled.. ainuke erand selle kommunistlikule pervetsusele sellest listist on siis 1920 nda kandis Venemaa kalleim maal, 60 millioni dollariga, kui seda näete, siis saate ise aru kust see viimaseaja robotikari alguse sai ja mis nende eesmärgid olid kui läbi NY 1940 + abstraktse kunsti koos CIA üle maailma promoma hakkasid kui reaalset asja.... kõik need samad asutused, organisatsioonid on seotud ka nende pere ja homo agendadega, kus naise olemust kui Loojat ja mehest olulisemat, likvideerida proovitakse, eelkõige naiste enda arusaamadest )
1 May 2017 10:10
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
as if you say, "in print"
then also, You're text, is in Print... you know..
Emotion feeling is correct, based on what you react, there is reason for it,
but just make it more conservative, more correct, focused, helping, with proper final direction that is connectable for largest amount of correct ancient and future people
then also, You're text, is in Print... you know..
Emotion feeling is correct, based on what you react, there is reason for it,
but just make it more conservative, more correct, focused, helping, with proper final direction that is connectable for largest amount of correct ancient and future people
1 May 2017 09:23
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
Nothing important has changed / mistranslated in bible, we can just ask from Jews and most of information will be easily shared,
if there is thousands of versions we not like, choose the 1001 one that is the one you trust and let us know,
as the versions that are good have got only better in most part, as more and more clear understandings come to light
if there is thousands of versions we not like, choose the 1001 one that is the one you trust and let us know,
as the versions that are good have got only better in most part, as more and more clear understandings come to light
1 May 2017 09:18
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
Even trashing most mistranslated bible is a sin
(sin, meaning counterproductive to helping Life )
Specially if NO Real "Better" alternative, Clear solution is offered, then for sure, No version's of bible should be commented in terms of "mistranslated" or anything like that, if we do, we harm our self just more and more, but more even the others to whose we spread this untruth
If we do find a mistake that can counter All usefulness in scriptures, then we should point them out with corrections, or we no better then worst who we try to be against
We do not want to behave like cheap red satanist propaganda tools : shaming others and not offering reasons, proofs and solutions that should be minimum package that Must include shame we spread about serious things
(sin, meaning counterproductive to helping Life )
Specially if NO Real "Better" alternative, Clear solution is offered, then for sure, No version's of bible should be commented in terms of "mistranslated" or anything like that, if we do, we harm our self just more and more, but more even the others to whose we spread this untruth
If we do find a mistake that can counter All usefulness in scriptures, then we should point them out with corrections, or we no better then worst who we try to be against
We do not want to behave like cheap red satanist propaganda tools : shaming others and not offering reasons, proofs and solutions that should be minimum package that Must include shame we spread about serious things
1 May 2017 09:16
Margus Meigo replied to Jay Smith's comment.
As long One Human walks, there is reason to
1 May 2017 06:52
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's post.
Old Estonians walked a lot in bare feet
1 May 2017 06:50
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's post.
It Really bothers me when this image is shown with cut or shaved beard... Arrrghh!
// it is REALLY important
// it is REALLY important
1 May 2017 06:48
Margus Meigo replied to Sarah R Adams's comment.
Or their laws better?
n 1899, a six-article "Declaration of Principles" was adopted by many Spiritualist groups. Three other articles were added at a later date. By no means do all Spiritualist denominations or individual churches affirm these principles, but because of their historical significance in setting the beliefs of modern Spiritualism, all nine articles are quoted in full below. The influence of Unitarianism is obvious in the definition of God in principle one.
We believe in Infinite Intelligence;
We believe that the phenomena of Nature, both physical and spiritual, are the expression of Infinite Intelligence;
We affirm that a correct understanding of such expression and living in accordance therewith constitute true religion;
We affirm that the existence and personal identity of the individual continue after the change called death;
We affirm that communication with the so-called dead is a fact, scientifically proven by the phenomena of Spiritualism;
We believe that the highest morality is contained in the Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." (Principles 1-6 adopted in Chicago, Illinois, 1899. Principle 6 revised in Ronkonkorma, New York, 2004.[citation needed])
We affirm the moral responsibility of the individual, and that we make our own happiness or unhappiness as we obey or disobey Nature's physical and spiritual laws;
We affirm that the doorway to reformation is never closed against any soul here or hereafter; (Principles 7-8 adopted in Rochester, New York, 1909 and revised in Rochester, New York, 2001.[citation needed])
We affirm that the precept of Prophecy and Healing are Divine attributes proven through Mediumship. (Principle 9 adopted in St. Louis, Missouri, 1944, revised in Oklahoma City, 1983 and in Westfield, New Jersey, 1998
_ ¤¤¤ _
Over the years, other statements have been adopted on "What Spiritualism Is and Does" and "Spiritual Healing." A set of "Definitions" has also been approved. The two issues of "reincarnation" and the relation of Spiritualism to Christianity have been the major questions dividing Spiritualists. Differing answers to these two questions have split the NSAC on several occasions, and dissent led independent Spiritualists to form their own organizations instead of joining the NSAC. These were adopted in October 1914, 1919, 1930, 1950 during the organization's annual convention.
Spiritualism is the Science, Philosophy and Religion of continuous life, based upon the demonstrated fact of communication, by means of mediumship, with those who live in the Spirit World. (1919)
Spiritualism Is a Science Because it investigates, analyzes and classifies facts and manifestations demonstrated from the spirit side of life.
Spiritualism Is a Philosophy because it studies the Laws of Nature both on the seen and unseen sides of life and bases its conclusions upon present observed facts. It accepts statements of observed facts of past ages and conclusions drawn therefrom, when sustained by reason and by results of observed facts of the present day.
Spiritualism Is a Religion because it strives to understand and to comply with the Physical, Mental and Spiritual Laws of Nature, which are the laws of God.
A Spiritualist is one who believes, as the basis of his or her religion, in the communication between this and the Spirit World by means of mediumship and who endeavors to mould his or her character and conduct in accordance with the highest teachings derived from such communication. (1914, Rev. 1938)
A Medium is one whose organism is sensitive to vibrations from the spirit world and through whose instrumentality, intelligences in that world are able to convey messages and produce the phenomena of Spiritualism. (1914)
A Spiritualist Healer is one who, either through one's own inherent powers or through mediumship, is able to impart vital, curative force to pathologic conditions. (1930, 1993)
The Phenomena of Spiritualism consists of Prophecy, Clairvoyance, Clairaudience, Gift of Tongues, Laying on of Hands, Healing, Visions, Trance, Apports, Levitation, Raps, Automatic and Independent Writings and Paintings, Voice, Materialization, Photography, Psychometry and any other manifestation proving the continuity of life as demonstrated through the Physical and Spiritual senses and faculties of man. (1950)
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// a bit racialist perhaps
Although the churches founded by Anderson are often associated with New Orleans, the spiritual church movement has always been national in scope. It spread quickly throughout America during the 1920s, and one impetus for its diffusion was the fact that in 1922, the
National Spiritualist Association of Churches expelled or made unwelcome all of its Black members.[2] This led to the formation of a national group called the Colored Spiritualist Association of Churches,
n 1899, a six-article "Declaration of Principles" was adopted by many Spiritualist groups. Three other articles were added at a later date. By no means do all Spiritualist denominations or individual churches affirm these principles, but because of their historical significance in setting the beliefs of modern Spiritualism, all nine articles are quoted in full below. The influence of Unitarianism is obvious in the definition of God in principle one.
We believe in Infinite Intelligence;
We believe that the phenomena of Nature, both physical and spiritual, are the expression of Infinite Intelligence;
We affirm that a correct understanding of such expression and living in accordance therewith constitute true religion;
We affirm that the existence and personal identity of the individual continue after the change called death;
We affirm that communication with the so-called dead is a fact, scientifically proven by the phenomena of Spiritualism;
We believe that the highest morality is contained in the Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." (Principles 1-6 adopted in Chicago, Illinois, 1899. Principle 6 revised in Ronkonkorma, New York, 2004.[citation needed])
We affirm the moral responsibility of the individual, and that we make our own happiness or unhappiness as we obey or disobey Nature's physical and spiritual laws;
We affirm that the doorway to reformation is never closed against any soul here or hereafter; (Principles 7-8 adopted in Rochester, New York, 1909 and revised in Rochester, New York, 2001.[citation needed])
We affirm that the precept of Prophecy and Healing are Divine attributes proven through Mediumship. (Principle 9 adopted in St. Louis, Missouri, 1944, revised in Oklahoma City, 1983 and in Westfield, New Jersey, 1998
_ ¤¤¤ _
Over the years, other statements have been adopted on "What Spiritualism Is and Does" and "Spiritual Healing." A set of "Definitions" has also been approved. The two issues of "reincarnation" and the relation of Spiritualism to Christianity have been the major questions dividing Spiritualists. Differing answers to these two questions have split the NSAC on several occasions, and dissent led independent Spiritualists to form their own organizations instead of joining the NSAC. These were adopted in October 1914, 1919, 1930, 1950 during the organization's annual convention.
Spiritualism is the Science, Philosophy and Religion of continuous life, based upon the demonstrated fact of communication, by means of mediumship, with those who live in the Spirit World. (1919)
Spiritualism Is a Science Because it investigates, analyzes and classifies facts and manifestations demonstrated from the spirit side of life.
Spiritualism Is a Philosophy because it studies the Laws of Nature both on the seen and unseen sides of life and bases its conclusions upon present observed facts. It accepts statements of observed facts of past ages and conclusions drawn therefrom, when sustained by reason and by results of observed facts of the present day.
Spiritualism Is a Religion because it strives to understand and to comply with the Physical, Mental and Spiritual Laws of Nature, which are the laws of God.
A Spiritualist is one who believes, as the basis of his or her religion, in the communication between this and the Spirit World by means of mediumship and who endeavors to mould his or her character and conduct in accordance with the highest teachings derived from such communication. (1914, Rev. 1938)
A Medium is one whose organism is sensitive to vibrations from the spirit world and through whose instrumentality, intelligences in that world are able to convey messages and produce the phenomena of Spiritualism. (1914)
A Spiritualist Healer is one who, either through one's own inherent powers or through mediumship, is able to impart vital, curative force to pathologic conditions. (1930, 1993)
The Phenomena of Spiritualism consists of Prophecy, Clairvoyance, Clairaudience, Gift of Tongues, Laying on of Hands, Healing, Visions, Trance, Apports, Levitation, Raps, Automatic and Independent Writings and Paintings, Voice, Materialization, Photography, Psychometry and any other manifestation proving the continuity of life as demonstrated through the Physical and Spiritual senses and faculties of man. (1950)
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// a bit racialist perhaps
Although the churches founded by Anderson are often associated with New Orleans, the spiritual church movement has always been national in scope. It spread quickly throughout America during the 1920s, and one impetus for its diffusion was the fact that in 1922, the
National Spiritualist Association of Churches expelled or made unwelcome all of its Black members.[2] This led to the formation of a national group called the Colored Spiritualist Association of Churches,
1 May 2017 06:45
Margus Meigo replied to Sarah R Adams's comment.
More spiritualist largest org.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spiritualist_organizations
"A spiritualist church is a church affiliated with the informal spiritualist movement which began in the United States in the 1840s. Spiritualist churches are now found around the world"
"The origin of mediumship is usually linked to the Fox sisters at Hydesville, Arcadia, New York in 1848, but some believers date the unofficial beginning of modern American Spiritualism to the Shakers and similar religious groups. By 1853 the movement had reached San Francisco and London, and by 1860 was worldwide."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritualist_church
"The National Spiritualist Association of Churches (NSAC) is one of the oldest and largest of the national Spiritualist church organizations in the United States. The NSAC was formed as the National Spiritualist Association of the United States of America (NSA) in September 1893,
"Spiritualists had previously tended to resist institutional or denominational organization, early NSA leaders hoped organization would help promote the truths of the religion both spiritually and practically.[1] Organization could help non-Spiritualists distinguish genuine mediumship from the rapidly proliferating varieties of fraudulent mediumship, increase communication among Spiritualists, prevent the legal prosecution of spirit mediums under fortune telling and medical licensing laws, and counterattacks by "orthodox" ministers in the press. To these reasons, early leaders added the material support of spirit mediums and healers, just as other religious groups provided for the support of their clergy.
The association is also important for its adoption of a number of statements on Spiritualism which have become a standard to which other Spiritualist bodies more or less adhere
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Spiritualist_Association_of_Churches
The United Society of Believers in Christ's Second Appearing, more commonly known as the Shakers, is a millenarian restorationist Christian sect founded in the 18th century in England. They were initially known as "Shaking Quakers" because of their ecstatic behavior during worship services. As early as 1747, women assumed leadership roles within the sect, notably Jane Wardley, Mother Ann Lee, and Mother Lucy Wright.
"They practice a celibate and communal lifestyle, pacifism, and their model of equality of the sexes, which they institutionalized in their society in the 1780s. They are also known for their simple living, architecture, and furniture. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Lebanon_Shaker_Society
The Shakers were one of a few religious groups formed in 18th century in the Northwest of England;[1] originating out of the Wardley Society. James and Jane Wardley and others broke off from the Quakers[2][3] at a time when the Quakers were weaning themselves away from frenetic spiritual expression.[4] The Wardleys formed the Wardley Society, which was also known as the "Shaking Quakers".[5] Future leader Ann Lee and her parents were early members of the sect. This group of "charismatic" Christians became the United Society of Believers in Christ's Second Appearing (USBCSA), or the Shakers. Their belief was based upon spiritualism and included the notion that they received messages from the spirit of God which were expressed during religious revivals. They also experienced what they interpreted as messages from God during silent meditations and became known as "Shaking Quakers" because of the ecstatic nature of their worship services. They believed in the renunciation of sinful acts and that the end of the world was near
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spiritualist_organizations
"A spiritualist church is a church affiliated with the informal spiritualist movement which began in the United States in the 1840s. Spiritualist churches are now found around the world"
"The origin of mediumship is usually linked to the Fox sisters at Hydesville, Arcadia, New York in 1848, but some believers date the unofficial beginning of modern American Spiritualism to the Shakers and similar religious groups. By 1853 the movement had reached San Francisco and London, and by 1860 was worldwide."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritualist_church
"The National Spiritualist Association of Churches (NSAC) is one of the oldest and largest of the national Spiritualist church organizations in the United States. The NSAC was formed as the National Spiritualist Association of the United States of America (NSA) in September 1893,
"Spiritualists had previously tended to resist institutional or denominational organization, early NSA leaders hoped organization would help promote the truths of the religion both spiritually and practically.[1] Organization could help non-Spiritualists distinguish genuine mediumship from the rapidly proliferating varieties of fraudulent mediumship, increase communication among Spiritualists, prevent the legal prosecution of spirit mediums under fortune telling and medical licensing laws, and counterattacks by "orthodox" ministers in the press. To these reasons, early leaders added the material support of spirit mediums and healers, just as other religious groups provided for the support of their clergy.
The association is also important for its adoption of a number of statements on Spiritualism which have become a standard to which other Spiritualist bodies more or less adhere
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Spiritualist_Association_of_Churches
The United Society of Believers in Christ's Second Appearing, more commonly known as the Shakers, is a millenarian restorationist Christian sect founded in the 18th century in England. They were initially known as "Shaking Quakers" because of their ecstatic behavior during worship services. As early as 1747, women assumed leadership roles within the sect, notably Jane Wardley, Mother Ann Lee, and Mother Lucy Wright.
"They practice a celibate and communal lifestyle, pacifism, and their model of equality of the sexes, which they institutionalized in their society in the 1780s. They are also known for their simple living, architecture, and furniture. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Lebanon_Shaker_Society
The Shakers were one of a few religious groups formed in 18th century in the Northwest of England;[1] originating out of the Wardley Society. James and Jane Wardley and others broke off from the Quakers[2][3] at a time when the Quakers were weaning themselves away from frenetic spiritual expression.[4] The Wardleys formed the Wardley Society, which was also known as the "Shaking Quakers".[5] Future leader Ann Lee and her parents were early members of the sect. This group of "charismatic" Christians became the United Society of Believers in Christ's Second Appearing (USBCSA), or the Shakers. Their belief was based upon spiritualism and included the notion that they received messages from the spirit of God which were expressed during religious revivals. They also experienced what they interpreted as messages from God during silent meditations and became known as "Shaking Quakers" because of the ecstatic nature of their worship services. They believed in the renunciation of sinful acts and that the end of the world was near
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spiritualist_organizations
1 May 2017 06:39
Margus Meigo replied to Sarah R Adams's comment.
Prinsibles, are complete, correct?
The Philosophy of SNU
Spiritualism is based upon seven principles. The Principles are not intended to be binding rules or the basis of a dogma but to provide a moral and ethical framework upon which people can base their lives.
1. The Fatherhood of God. The core belief of the religious philosophy of Spiritualism is the acceptance of a Divine Energy. This force, whatever name given to it, has created all there is and sustains all its creation. The ‘Spirit of God’ exists within and around everything. It is within all of us: we are all children of God so are part of one family. We acknowledge God as our Father.
2. The Brotherhood of Man. We are all part of the universal creative force and therefore one family in God. The operation of true Brotherhood throughout the word would create betterment to the lives of many, bringing equality, security and peace. Spiritualists try to understand the needs of others and help all people regardless of race, colour or creed
3. The Communion of Spirits and the Ministry of Angels. Communion with divine energy is a natural and essential part of existence. Communication between Spirit itself and its creations is an inbuilt ability. Spiritualists use this ability for communication directly, or via a medium, between those in the spirit world and ourselves. This is not supernatural; it is a normal activity. The main purpose of communication with the spirit world is to provide the evidence which supports our philosophy. The Ministry of Angels brings enhanced wisdom to enlighten the individual, society and the world in which we live. This includes those who are dedicated to the welfare and service of mankind bringing inspiration guidance and healing.
4. The Continuous Existence of the human soul. Spirit is part of the ‘Creative Force’ and thus indestructible. Energy cannot be destroyed; it can only change its form. After death the physical body is left behind whilst the soul continues to exist in a different dimension that we call the spirit world. The individual personality continues unchanged by the event we call ‘death’.
5. Personal Responsibility. In His wisdom, God has given us enormous potential; we can use that potential to improve our own lives and the lives of others. We have the ability to make decisions throughout our lives as we see fit. What each of us makes of our life is our Personal Responsibility no one can replace or override that right. No other person or influence can put right our wrongdoings.
6. Compensation and Retribution hereafter for all the good and evil deeds done on earth. This Principle expresses the natural law of ‘cause and effect’. This law operates now, on earth, as well as in the spirit world. As we move through life making choices, the outcome of those choices affects our soul growth. When we leave this earthly life there will be no divine judgement. We will have the opportunity to reassess, take stock and decide what might have been done differently.
7. Eternal Progress open to every human soul. Eternity does not begin at death; Progress is open to all now! Any action, or intent to change, to promote soul growth and progression, creates a positive reaction. There will always be the opportunity to develop and move forward, no one is ever deprived of the all embracing love of God.
These principles were the summary of faith of Emma Hardinge Britten, a pioneer for the UK's Spiritualist Movement and were adopted by the SNU. Emma was a medium and gifted orator and it was during her many speeches in trance state, that 'spirit communicators' gave various statements of faith. This resulted in the creation of the Seven Principles of Modern Spiritualism in the UK. Many believe that the influence of the 'spirit' of Socialist Robert Owen was paramount in this process.
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Presidents:
// (justto look in if they are related to Good )
1970 - 1993 Gordon Higginson
1993 - 1996 Minister Eric L. Hatton
1996 - 2000 Minister Judith J. Seaman
2000 - 2010 Minister Duncan P. Gascoyne
2010 - to date Mr David R. Bruton OSNU
Hon. Presidents-in-Spirit: Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Gordon Higginson
Hon. President: Minister Eric Hatton
Hon. Vice-President: Minister T. Horton, Minister D. Hudson
The Philosophy of SNU
Spiritualism is based upon seven principles. The Principles are not intended to be binding rules or the basis of a dogma but to provide a moral and ethical framework upon which people can base their lives.
1. The Fatherhood of God. The core belief of the religious philosophy of Spiritualism is the acceptance of a Divine Energy. This force, whatever name given to it, has created all there is and sustains all its creation. The ‘Spirit of God’ exists within and around everything. It is within all of us: we are all children of God so are part of one family. We acknowledge God as our Father.
2. The Brotherhood of Man. We are all part of the universal creative force and therefore one family in God. The operation of true Brotherhood throughout the word would create betterment to the lives of many, bringing equality, security and peace. Spiritualists try to understand the needs of others and help all people regardless of race, colour or creed
3. The Communion of Spirits and the Ministry of Angels. Communion with divine energy is a natural and essential part of existence. Communication between Spirit itself and its creations is an inbuilt ability. Spiritualists use this ability for communication directly, or via a medium, between those in the spirit world and ourselves. This is not supernatural; it is a normal activity. The main purpose of communication with the spirit world is to provide the evidence which supports our philosophy. The Ministry of Angels brings enhanced wisdom to enlighten the individual, society and the world in which we live. This includes those who are dedicated to the welfare and service of mankind bringing inspiration guidance and healing.
4. The Continuous Existence of the human soul. Spirit is part of the ‘Creative Force’ and thus indestructible. Energy cannot be destroyed; it can only change its form. After death the physical body is left behind whilst the soul continues to exist in a different dimension that we call the spirit world. The individual personality continues unchanged by the event we call ‘death’.
5. Personal Responsibility. In His wisdom, God has given us enormous potential; we can use that potential to improve our own lives and the lives of others. We have the ability to make decisions throughout our lives as we see fit. What each of us makes of our life is our Personal Responsibility no one can replace or override that right. No other person or influence can put right our wrongdoings.
6. Compensation and Retribution hereafter for all the good and evil deeds done on earth. This Principle expresses the natural law of ‘cause and effect’. This law operates now, on earth, as well as in the spirit world. As we move through life making choices, the outcome of those choices affects our soul growth. When we leave this earthly life there will be no divine judgement. We will have the opportunity to reassess, take stock and decide what might have been done differently.
7. Eternal Progress open to every human soul. Eternity does not begin at death; Progress is open to all now! Any action, or intent to change, to promote soul growth and progression, creates a positive reaction. There will always be the opportunity to develop and move forward, no one is ever deprived of the all embracing love of God.
These principles were the summary of faith of Emma Hardinge Britten, a pioneer for the UK's Spiritualist Movement and were adopted by the SNU. Emma was a medium and gifted orator and it was during her many speeches in trance state, that 'spirit communicators' gave various statements of faith. This resulted in the creation of the Seven Principles of Modern Spiritualism in the UK. Many believe that the influence of the 'spirit' of Socialist Robert Owen was paramount in this process.
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Presidents:
// (justto look in if they are related to Good )
1970 - 1993 Gordon Higginson
1993 - 1996 Minister Eric L. Hatton
1996 - 2000 Minister Judith J. Seaman
2000 - 2010 Minister Duncan P. Gascoyne
2010 - to date Mr David R. Bruton OSNU
Hon. Presidents-in-Spirit: Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Gordon Higginson
Hon. President: Minister Eric Hatton
Hon. Vice-President: Minister T. Horton, Minister D. Hudson
1 May 2017 06:27
Margus Meigo replied to Sarah R Adams's comment.
"The Spiritualists' National Union (SNU) is a Spiritualist organisation, founded in the United Kingdom in 1901, and is one of the largest spiritualist groups in the world. Its motto is Light, Nature, Truth.
Over its history, it has organised test cases regarding the legal status of spiritualist mediums, with regard to such matters as exemption from compulsory military National service. In legal terms, spiritualist mediums were considered to violate such laws as the Vagrancy Act 1824, which outlawed fortune telling, and the Witchcraft Act 1735. The Union campaigned against these laws for many years. "
"They were eventually repealed by the Fraudulent Mediums Act 1951, which legalised the practice of mediums unless it was shown that they were profiting financially from a fraudulent service. This act was repealed in April 2008, and fraudulent mediums are now covered by consumer protection legislation, namely The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritualists%27_National_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchcraft_Act_1735
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraudulent_Mediums_Act_1951
The SNU was founded on 18 October 1901 as the Association of the Spiritualists' National Union Ltd. In 1916, it campaigned to get government recognition for the religion of spiritualism
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Over its history, it has organised test cases regarding the legal status of spiritualist mediums, with regard to such matters as exemption from compulsory military National service. In legal terms, spiritualist mediums were considered to violate such laws as the Vagrancy Act 1824, which outlawed fortune telling, and the Witchcraft Act 1735. The Union campaigned against these laws for many years. "
"They were eventually repealed by the Fraudulent Mediums Act 1951, which legalised the practice of mediums unless it was shown that they were profiting financially from a fraudulent service. This act was repealed in April 2008, and fraudulent mediums are now covered by consumer protection legislation, namely The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritualists%27_National_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchcraft_Act_1735
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraudulent_Mediums_Act_1951
The SNU was founded on 18 October 1901 as the Association of the Spiritualists' National Union Ltd. In 1916, it campaigned to get government recognition for the religion of spiritualism
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritualists%27_National_Union
1 May 2017 06:26
Margus Meigo replied to Sarah R Adams's comment.
They tested spiritists, from "Spiritualists Nationalist Union " (SNU) / "The Spiritualists' National Union " is actually only one that i was able to find, not a Nationalist, but i guess that was misspelled.
" The Worlds Largest Spiritualist Organisation "
// just wonder, can we do better?
http://www.snu.org.uk/
http://www.snu.org.uk/forms/snu_aff_frm_downloads.html
" The Worlds Largest Spiritualist Organisation "
// just wonder, can we do better?
http://www.snu.org.uk/
http://www.snu.org.uk/forms/snu_aff_frm_downloads.html
http://www.snu.org.uk/
1 May 2017 06:22
Margus Meigo replied to Sarah R Adams's comment.
Wiseman was kind enough to add this to he's website:
http://www.richardwiseman.com/resources/MediumBJP.pdf
http://www.richardwiseman.com/resources/MediumBJP.pdf
1 May 2017 06:13
Margus Meigo replied to Sarah R Adams's comment.
As when They was testing, then there might have been opposite magician agenda or influence,
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1348/000712605X36361/abstract;jsessionid=4D7FFD69A36888AEBB8127773491D95B.f02t02
and
https://www.worldcat.org/title/british-journal-of-psychology-general-section/oclc/470177597
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1348/000712605X36361/abstract;jsessionid=4D7FFD69A36888AEBB8127773491D95B.f02t02
and
https://www.worldcat.org/title/british-journal-of-psychology-general-section/oclc/470177597
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1348/000712605X36361/abstract;jsessionid=4D7FFD69A36888AEBB8127773491D95B.f02t02
1 May 2017 06:10
Margus Meigo replied to Sarah R Adams's comment.
So is there a spirit medium police kind of network developed among humans also, who would help to look in to , test and evaluate time by time who is in connection with what kind of forces and who needs to add what wisdom to their spirits so the help that is forwarded to people would be more complete
1 May 2017 06:06
Margus Meigo replied to Sarah R Adams's comment.
So how You see the Spirit Medium works,
You was also in to this before?
... my main worry is that sometimes it seems, the spirits "forget" to mention most important truths to a Women, who's She is..
(that she is more then man)
You was also in to this before?
... my main worry is that sometimes it seems, the spirits "forget" to mention most important truths to a Women, who's She is..
(that she is more then man)
1 May 2017 06:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But reviews are epic:
"I have been using Colette's Wisdom of Avalon Oracle Cards The Wisdom of Avalon Oracle Cards: A 52-Card Deck and Guidebook for over a year and half and they are by far some of the most powerful cards I've ever used in both my personal work as well as my intuitive work with clients. I never go anywhere without them. Well, now I have a new deck I will never go anywhere without.
Colette's Wisdom of the Hidden Realms is an innovative and beautiful set of cards supported by a very practical guidebook. I have seen a lot of decks, but this one is really unique. Colette has gifted us with a set of archetypes and spiritual helpers that are nothing like anything I've ever seen. Each of the 44 (Master Number) cards can be seen as an Ally or Challenger depending on their direction.
The imagery is nothing short of magical. Using graphically enhanced photography, the illustrator, Jena DellaGrottaglia has brought to life these helpers using imagery and themes from a variety of mystical lands. I find myself looking at the cards again and again as I often see something I missed the first time. There really is something for everyone in these cards.
Last, and certainly not least, I want to comment on Colette's philosophy regarding these cards. She states in the guidebook: "It's also important to note that these oracle cards weren't designed to predict the future. Rather, they are meant to offer you the wisdom you need to create the best life now, which evolves into the most meaningful and productive future. These cards also invite you to go deeper into the question, and the motives behind asking it, as the Wisdom of the Hidden Realms is revealed." This is why I love Colette and her teachings so much. These cards are here to help you make the best choice right now for your highest good."
"I have been using Colette's Wisdom of Avalon Oracle Cards The Wisdom of Avalon Oracle Cards: A 52-Card Deck and Guidebook for over a year and half and they are by far some of the most powerful cards I've ever used in both my personal work as well as my intuitive work with clients. I never go anywhere without them. Well, now I have a new deck I will never go anywhere without.
Colette's Wisdom of the Hidden Realms is an innovative and beautiful set of cards supported by a very practical guidebook. I have seen a lot of decks, but this one is really unique. Colette has gifted us with a set of archetypes and spiritual helpers that are nothing like anything I've ever seen. Each of the 44 (Master Number) cards can be seen as an Ally or Challenger depending on their direction.
The imagery is nothing short of magical. Using graphically enhanced photography, the illustrator, Jena DellaGrottaglia has brought to life these helpers using imagery and themes from a variety of mystical lands. I find myself looking at the cards again and again as I often see something I missed the first time. There really is something for everyone in these cards.
Last, and certainly not least, I want to comment on Colette's philosophy regarding these cards. She states in the guidebook: "It's also important to note that these oracle cards weren't designed to predict the future. Rather, they are meant to offer you the wisdom you need to create the best life now, which evolves into the most meaningful and productive future. These cards also invite you to go deeper into the question, and the motives behind asking it, as the Wisdom of the Hidden Realms is revealed." This is why I love Colette and her teachings so much. These cards are here to help you make the best choice right now for your highest good."
1 May 2017 05:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Colette-Baron-Reid/e/B001JRVJ2G/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1
https://www.amazon.com/Colette-Baron-Reid/e/B001JRVJ2G/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1
https://www.amazon.com/Colette-Baron-Reid/e/B001JRVJ2G/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1
1 May 2017 05:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 May 2017 05:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1 May 2017 05:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1932, Mina seda asja nii ei jäta
Andrese ja Pearu dialoog Anton Hansen Tammsaare romaanist "Tõde ja õigus" I, esitavad näitlejad Aado Hõimre (Andres) ja Johannes Kaljola (Pearu). Dramatiseerija Andres Särev. Salv. 1932 Vanadelt lintidelt ja plaatidelt restaureerinud Heino Pedusaar ja Helmi Sakala 1981. ja 1985. aastal.
http://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/40407
Andrese ja Pearu dialoog Anton Hansen Tammsaare romaanist "Tõde ja õigus" I, esitavad näitlejad Aado Hõimre (Andres) ja Johannes Kaljola (Pearu). Dramatiseerija Andres Särev. Salv. 1932 Vanadelt lintidelt ja plaatidelt restaureerinud Heino Pedusaar ja Helmi Sakala 1981. ja 1985. aastal.
http://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/40407
http://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/40407
1 May 2017 04:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
irooniline kui nii.
"Eesti sai uuesti vabaks 20.08.1991. Kui Eesti sai 1992. aastal ka oma raha, muutis see pööre omamoodi iroonilisel moel Pantokraatori edasise loomingulise eksistentsi võimatuks ning ansambel läks laiali. "
Kuid õnnekssaadi uuesti kokku ja:
"Ansambel on loonud ja lindistanud üle saja heliteose, toonud lavale kaks rock-etendust ning võitnud festivalidel arvukalt muusikapreemiaid. "
"Eesti sai uuesti vabaks 20.08.1991. Kui Eesti sai 1992. aastal ka oma raha, muutis see pööre omamoodi iroonilisel moel Pantokraatori edasise loomingulise eksistentsi võimatuks ning ansambel läks laiali. "
Kuid õnnekssaadi uuesti kokku ja:
"Ansambel on loonud ja lindistanud üle saja heliteose, toonud lavale kaks rock-etendust ning võitnud festivalidel arvukalt muusikapreemiaid. "
1 May 2017 04:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mäletan neid hoopis eriskummalisi vaibe mis mind tabasid, eismestkorda kui neid muuseas ühel muul üritusel me teed ristusid, muidu ei teakski, aga ussi endasaba hammustama panev märk tuli,
ja ikkagi jälle.. 83 nda aasta sünnitus
"Pantokraator loob unikaalset muusikat segades elemente progerockist ja rahvamuusikast."
" Ansambli Pantokraator eelkäijaks on Tartu 7. Keskkooli kaheksanda klassi poiste ansambel Propaan, mille moodustasid klassivennad Erik Sakkov, Riho Kukk ning Mait Karm. 1983. aastal nimetasid nad ansambli Pantokraatoriks "
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantokraator_(ansambel)
ja ikkagi jälle.. 83 nda aasta sünnitus
"Pantokraator loob unikaalset muusikat segades elemente progerockist ja rahvamuusikast."
" Ansambli Pantokraator eelkäijaks on Tartu 7. Keskkooli kaheksanda klassi poiste ansambel Propaan, mille moodustasid klassivennad Erik Sakkov, Riho Kukk ning Mait Karm. 1983. aastal nimetasid nad ansambli Pantokraatoriks "
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantokraator_(ansambel)
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantokraator_(ansambel)
1 May 2017 04:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://sasslantis.ee/search.php?q=Pantokraator&page=1
https://sasslantis.ee/search.php?q=Pantokraator&page=1
1 May 2017 03:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vb "Sul ei ole õigus rikkuda rahuriiki" / Olen su vend
kuskil see laul siin peaks olema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBzfFBbhyXM
kuskil see laul siin peaks olema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBzfFBbhyXM
1 May 2017 03:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nüüd, #Vikerraadiost: "Möödas pime orjaöö ja rahvas läheb rasva / Naabril anna jalaga ja vala solki kaela / Vaat aga mõni loll tahab armastast, teeb tööd ja vahib vaeva "
Listen up, listen up
Yo, mamma
Listen up, listen up
Peple over here, people over there
Listen to this stuff that ain't no fresh move
Yo-yo-yo-yo high check man
Pantokraatoos' in the groove
Now
Möödas pime orjaöö ja rahvas läheb rasva
Oli, oli orjaöö ja rahvas läheb rasva
Šhampust joo ja sinki söö ja hästi suureks kasva
oli, oli sinki söö ja hästi suureks kasva
Naabril anna jalaga ja vala solki kaela
Oli, oli jalaga ja vala solki kaela
Pappi tasku ühvelda nii pääseb ükskord taeva
Oli, oli kühvelda nii pääseb ükskord taeva
Vaat aga mõni loll tahab armastast, teeb tööd ja vahib vaeva
Oli, oli armastust teeb tööd ja vahib vaeva
Laulan sest et teinekord kui taevas annab aega
Oli, oli teinekord kui taevas annab aega
Skarabuu, skarabuu
Don't you know you've think you've gotta
Bu skarabuuu
Bu!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjzm0rVx8x8
Listen up, listen up
Yo, mamma
Listen up, listen up
Peple over here, people over there
Listen to this stuff that ain't no fresh move
Yo-yo-yo-yo high check man
Pantokraatoos' in the groove
Now
Möödas pime orjaöö ja rahvas läheb rasva
Oli, oli orjaöö ja rahvas läheb rasva
Šhampust joo ja sinki söö ja hästi suureks kasva
oli, oli sinki söö ja hästi suureks kasva
Naabril anna jalaga ja vala solki kaela
Oli, oli jalaga ja vala solki kaela
Pappi tasku ühvelda nii pääseb ükskord taeva
Oli, oli kühvelda nii pääseb ükskord taeva
Vaat aga mõni loll tahab armastast, teeb tööd ja vahib vaeva
Oli, oli armastust teeb tööd ja vahib vaeva
Laulan sest et teinekord kui taevas annab aega
Oli, oli teinekord kui taevas annab aega
Skarabuu, skarabuu
Don't you know you've think you've gotta
Bu skarabuuu
Bu!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjzm0rVx8x8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjzm0rVx8x8
1 May 2017 03:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi, on nii, et saab olla see, kui vaid on
Sulle, sest sa oled lihtsalt minu suurim tunne
Minu suurim õnn siin ilmas suurim õnnetunne
Rändand kogu elu justkui tühjas veeta kõrbes
Raske tunda raske mõelda
mis kandis mind su juurde
.:.
Sulle, kes sa oled täitnud minu kaunid soovid
Õrnalt hingan kuna tundub nagu poleks päris
see õhk me ümber soojalt puudutab su huuli
mida tunnen mida mõtlen, südames on keegi
Sulle, kes sa oled päike minu igas päevas
Minu ingel, kuu ja tähed, minu hingelaegas
Mu südamesse oled kirjutatud sa kui luule
seistes sinu kõrval raske mõelda iial muule
Sina tead kuidas naeratavad sinisilmad
Tasakaalu leidnud olles, seistes sinu kõrval
Nagu kass kes leidis kodu pärast pikka külma
või vaid unelm riivab hetkeks liblikana silma
Kas tead, kas sa tead
kuidas armastan ma
kuidas sind armastan ma
Sulle, sest sa oled lihtsalt minu suurim tunne
Minu suurim õnn siin ilmas suurim õnnetunne
Rändand kogu elu justkui tühjas veeta kõrbes
Raske tunda raske mõelda
mis kandis mind su juurde
Oled kastepärleist kirjutatud kauneim luule
Mu südamesse kirjutatud kõige kauneim tunne
Tundub justkui oleks näinud lihtsalt und ma
Kuidas elan hingan tunnen kui sa mu juures
Sinu armastuse maagia imeliseim tunne
Täiustab mu iga väikest õnnelikku päeva
Lihtsalt täiustab mu iga imelist päeva
Lihtsalt täiustab mu iga õnnelikku päeva
Kas tead, kas sa tead
kuidas armastan ma
kuidas sind armastan ma
Sulle, sest sa oled lihtsalt minu suurim tunne
Minu suurim õnn siin ilmas suurim õnnetunne
Sulle, kes sa oled päike minu igas päevas
Minu ingel, kuu ja tähed, minu õnnelaegas
Mu südamesse oled kirjutatud sa kui luule
seistes sinu kõrval raske mõelda iial muule
Sulle, sest sa oled lihtsalt minu suurim tunne
Minu suurim õnn siin ilmas suurim õnnetunne
Kas tead, kas sa tead
kuidas armastan ma
kuidas sind armastan ma
Kas sa tead, kas sa tead
kuidas armastan ma
kuidas sind armastan ma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsyxl1Z9DaE&list=RDZsyxl1Z9DaE
Sulle, sest sa oled lihtsalt minu suurim tunne
Minu suurim õnn siin ilmas suurim õnnetunne
Rändand kogu elu justkui tühjas veeta kõrbes
Raske tunda raske mõelda
mis kandis mind su juurde
.:.
Sulle, kes sa oled täitnud minu kaunid soovid
Õrnalt hingan kuna tundub nagu poleks päris
see õhk me ümber soojalt puudutab su huuli
mida tunnen mida mõtlen, südames on keegi
Sulle, kes sa oled päike minu igas päevas
Minu ingel, kuu ja tähed, minu hingelaegas
Mu südamesse oled kirjutatud sa kui luule
seistes sinu kõrval raske mõelda iial muule
Sina tead kuidas naeratavad sinisilmad
Tasakaalu leidnud olles, seistes sinu kõrval
Nagu kass kes leidis kodu pärast pikka külma
või vaid unelm riivab hetkeks liblikana silma
Kas tead, kas sa tead
kuidas armastan ma
kuidas sind armastan ma
Sulle, sest sa oled lihtsalt minu suurim tunne
Minu suurim õnn siin ilmas suurim õnnetunne
Rändand kogu elu justkui tühjas veeta kõrbes
Raske tunda raske mõelda
mis kandis mind su juurde
Oled kastepärleist kirjutatud kauneim luule
Mu südamesse kirjutatud kõige kauneim tunne
Tundub justkui oleks näinud lihtsalt und ma
Kuidas elan hingan tunnen kui sa mu juures
Sinu armastuse maagia imeliseim tunne
Täiustab mu iga väikest õnnelikku päeva
Lihtsalt täiustab mu iga imelist päeva
Lihtsalt täiustab mu iga õnnelikku päeva
Kas tead, kas sa tead
kuidas armastan ma
kuidas sind armastan ma
Sulle, sest sa oled lihtsalt minu suurim tunne
Minu suurim õnn siin ilmas suurim õnnetunne
Sulle, kes sa oled päike minu igas päevas
Minu ingel, kuu ja tähed, minu õnnelaegas
Mu südamesse oled kirjutatud sa kui luule
seistes sinu kõrval raske mõelda iial muule
Sulle, sest sa oled lihtsalt minu suurim tunne
Minu suurim õnn siin ilmas suurim õnnetunne
Kas tead, kas sa tead
kuidas armastan ma
kuidas sind armastan ma
Kas sa tead, kas sa tead
kuidas armastan ma
kuidas sind armastan ma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsyxl1Z9DaE&list=RDZsyxl1Z9DaE
1 May 2017 03:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ka hea : )
Tabada ma lootsin kord Su meelt
Avastada tundmatutes keeltes
Lubada Sind enda juurde veel
Tajuda ja tunda soojust hinges
Kuid võibolla saatus tahtis nii
Üksikuna rändama me loodud
Kallimaks ma kutsusin Sind siis
Tegelikult üldse Sind ei tundnud
Taas mu soovide puult
Rebib tuul nüüd viimseid lehti
Sõnad tarduvad suul just hetkel sel
Veel ei jaksa Sust öelda lahti
Külmad on mul käed ja hing on jääs
Homne sellest miskit suurt ei muuda
Midagi kas on mis kestma jääb
Pisaratest jõe kui nutta suudan
Taas mu soovide puult
Rebib tuul nüüd viimseid lehti
Sõnad tarduvad suul just hetkel sel
Veel ei jaksa Sust öelda lahti
Taas mu soovide puult
Rebib tuul nüüd viimseid lehti
Ma ei teagi, mis teen, mis mõtlen
Enam reeglid me jaoks ei kehti
Rändan, hingan, teel
Mu suund on kordki teel, et kõike muuta
Alustada uut ja leida taas end unustuse kaugel maal
Taas mu soovide puult
Rebib tuul nüüd viimseid lehti
Sõnad tarduvad suul just hetkel sel
Veel ei jaksa Sust öelda lahti
Taas mu soovide puult
Rebib tuul nüüd viimseid lehti
Ma ei teagi, mis teen, mis mõtlen
Enam reeglid me jaoks ei kehti
Mu soovide puu, nüüd tean, vaid tuul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcDEijmhdPI
Tabada ma lootsin kord Su meelt
Avastada tundmatutes keeltes
Lubada Sind enda juurde veel
Tajuda ja tunda soojust hinges
Kuid võibolla saatus tahtis nii
Üksikuna rändama me loodud
Kallimaks ma kutsusin Sind siis
Tegelikult üldse Sind ei tundnud
Taas mu soovide puult
Rebib tuul nüüd viimseid lehti
Sõnad tarduvad suul just hetkel sel
Veel ei jaksa Sust öelda lahti
Külmad on mul käed ja hing on jääs
Homne sellest miskit suurt ei muuda
Midagi kas on mis kestma jääb
Pisaratest jõe kui nutta suudan
Taas mu soovide puult
Rebib tuul nüüd viimseid lehti
Sõnad tarduvad suul just hetkel sel
Veel ei jaksa Sust öelda lahti
Taas mu soovide puult
Rebib tuul nüüd viimseid lehti
Ma ei teagi, mis teen, mis mõtlen
Enam reeglid me jaoks ei kehti
Rändan, hingan, teel
Mu suund on kordki teel, et kõike muuta
Alustada uut ja leida taas end unustuse kaugel maal
Taas mu soovide puult
Rebib tuul nüüd viimseid lehti
Sõnad tarduvad suul just hetkel sel
Veel ei jaksa Sust öelda lahti
Taas mu soovide puult
Rebib tuul nüüd viimseid lehti
Ma ei teagi, mis teen, mis mõtlen
Enam reeglid me jaoks ei kehti
Mu soovide puu, nüüd tean, vaid tuul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcDEijmhdPI
1 May 2017 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Meta
"In 1998, Assange co-founded his first company Earthmen Technology, with the aim of developing "network intrusion detection technologies". The Julian ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/Earthmen
"In 1998, Assange co-founded his first company Earthmen Technology, with the aim of developing "network intrusion detection technologies". The Julian ...
www.thefreedictionary.com/Earthmen
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Earthmen
1 May 2017 03:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
to
WMPTN.com
WMPTN.com
http://wmptn.com/
1 May 2017 03:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
from http://julianpaulassange.com/
http://julianpaulassange.com/
1 May 2017 03:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Nice to see updates, no need to wonder how did You find this old post : )
But yes, what we have to worry about, are all these great clubs and national organizations infiltrated by communism-satanism or are they still in heart with Earth
But yes, what we have to worry about, are all these great clubs and national organizations infiltrated by communism-satanism or are they still in heart with Earth
1 May 2017 03:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or Africa black
1 May 2017 02:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or Asia green
1 May 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(just in remember, i am rather pro Cow & DARP'a person still, as long they keep it blue, Nordic blue )
1 May 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Not that the website would be.. well, i guess it can be made a much better still : )
http://www.millionmaskmarch.com/contact
http://www.millionmaskmarch.com/contact
http://www.millionmaskmarch.com/contact
1 May 2017 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on Million Mask March's post.
Interesting, How did You find my so old post from 7 y ago . )
1 May 2017 02:31
Margus Meigo replied to Johnny Chung's comment.
be careful what You wish for
30 April 2017 05:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuigi algselt laul isetuli hingetunnetuses kellegi teisepoolt minu suunas, siis omakorda mõtlesin kohe kasellest edasi, et kuidas ikkagi on asjad.
Lihtsalt impulsiivne märge, juhtudejuhuks
Lihtsalt impulsiivne märge, juhtudejuhuks
30 April 2017 03:12
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
strange
30 April 2017 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
29 April 2017 23:31
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Tuisk's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
aeg oleks jah29 April 2017 19:12
Margus Meigo commented on Maranda Kidd's post.
and massage, is next best thing top of that all
29 April 2017 19:07
Margus Meigo commented on Maranda Kidd's post.
did you try cannabis? (if you do not have magic mushrooms)
Elementary
Elementary
29 April 2017 19:07
Margus Meigo commented on Leroy Malcolm's post.
Group: Communists, Anarchists, Socialists United Front.
can this tanks swim29 April 2017 05:15
Margus Meigo commented on Jackson Baer's post.
Group: Communists, Anarchists, Socialists United Front.
Adolf implemented Greatest animal rights in that scale that has ever existence in earth, he him self also quit eating animals29 April 2017 05:12
Margus Meigo replied to Bia Frade Capewell's comment.
Group: Communists, Anarchists, Socialists United Front.
to remind correctly, Nazi and Communist are just extension of Roman empire29 April 2017 05:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 April 2017 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Not so...
just D O D it !
"Mainframe Computing: Not Sexy, But Essential to US DoD IT "
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Mainframe-Computing-Not-Sexy-But-Essential-to-US-DoD-IT-06151
just D O D it !
"Mainframe Computing: Not Sexy, But Essential to US DoD IT "
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Mainframe-Computing-Not-Sexy-But-Essential-to-US-DoD-IT-06151
29 April 2017 03:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
IF someone is not interested for money, at least for a school You should... oooh.. then everyone will be on o keeping their skills and afraid to sacrifice for others sake.. (okey, you loose Your wings, maybe, but hundreds will gain and fly.. and in return, all will who can)
29 April 2017 03:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
for ordinary human mind would call someone, out, to increase ones belief, and even just for that, no one bothers to do, any upgrades...
Newer mind the proper proof of ANY kind of physical or mental measurable phenomena.. we we do, we can easy open up Wiz school with monthly 50 000 grant for few years,
Newer mind the proper proof of ANY kind of physical or mental measurable phenomena.. we we do, we can easy open up Wiz school with monthly 50 000 grant for few years,
29 April 2017 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's post.
Trouble is that when anyone in physical real asking to perform, invoke.. any kind of magic in a way that it will stay in a human and surrounding mind's.. then is rare to find anyone,
Would want to call even now, anyone
tO MAKE so that human can say "true, true" and stay in same state of mind... well, rare to find anyone for real how ever much we all try to comment as magic as we can try to top last one about how "we so much more wiz that cant even compare to the .."
Would want to call even now, anyone
tO MAKE so that human can say "true, true" and stay in same state of mind... well, rare to find anyone for real how ever much we all try to comment as magic as we can try to top last one about how "we so much more wiz that cant even compare to the .."
29 April 2017 03:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
most easy way to get IPs, innit
29 April 2017 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
29 April 2017 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
'Picture name: mini jump!
(as you jump only so far and not away)
(as you jump only so far and not away)
29 April 2017 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
U FB, argghh, u not should NOT to LOOP !
breaker of work
http://imgur.com/aEAQkYd
breaker of work
http://imgur.com/aEAQkYd
http://imgur.com/aEAQkYd
29 April 2017 02:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
even Cylons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUezhpuEoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUezhpuEoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUezhpuEoE
29 April 2017 01:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
we, as the species who got it
29 April 2017 01:05
Margus Meigo replied to Steve Frisby's comment.
"teema POLE metainfo"
indeed
indeed
29 April 2017 01:04
Margus Meigo replied to Steve Frisby's comment.
0 sales, and 0 ad banners, on www.eesti.ee
http://www.eesti.ee/
29 April 2017 00:48
Margus Meigo replied to Steve Frisby's comment.
i know right, as there is no sales on the page, it is Gov promotion site
29 April 2017 00:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
So how much for a fiver?
"For fiver You can go behind a corner and j / o... " told a body seller to a client,
joke comes to a mind
"For fiver You can go behind a corner and j / o... " told a body seller to a client,
joke comes to a mind
29 April 2017 00:07
Margus Meigo replied to David Alexander's comment.
s
28 April 2017 18:19
Margus Meigo replied to David Alexander's comment.
or dream
28 April 2017 18:19
Margus Meigo replied to James Jaeger's comment.
This is the face of soviet time science teacher who sees some magic first time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3k_QDnzHE&list=RDdX3k_QDnzHE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3k_QDnzHE&list=RDdX3k_QDnzHE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3k_QDnzHE&list=RDdX3k_QDnzHE
28 April 2017 17:58
Margus Meigo replied to Regina Wells Rashida Oji's comment.
OKey, Journey won, is still better in pure
28 April 2017 08:18
Margus Meigo commented on Regina Wells Rashida Oji's post.
Self love is wrong by definition,
one can love what is outside of Him self (maybe is possible for a woman, but for a man this is destructive idea to start from this ..)
Respect, gratitude, virtues... perhaps yes, but "self love" or "love yourself" does not resonate correctly by any language as it is impossible and counter productive, love is meant to be, is meaning inside, related to OTHERS
Can NOT be nor start with one self, let other's make their mind up and nature, God, if You need to be loved and how, focus on loving others and trust others to do what they need, and learn to understand how to be Wise (meaning, as essence of a Women )
one can love what is outside of Him self (maybe is possible for a woman, but for a man this is destructive idea to start from this ..)
Respect, gratitude, virtues... perhaps yes, but "self love" or "love yourself" does not resonate correctly by any language as it is impossible and counter productive, love is meant to be, is meaning inside, related to OTHERS
Can NOT be nor start with one self, let other's make their mind up and nature, God, if You need to be loved and how, focus on loving others and trust others to do what they need, and learn to understand how to be Wise (meaning, as essence of a Women )
28 April 2017 08:16
Margus Meigo commented on Regina Wells Rashida Oji's post.
This what he sees as trouble, is for their kind a protection and insurance
¤ Just first point to start of just by headline... Is it even possible by any scientific math theory probability that atheist person can understand these forces deepness and size, power that put Donald J. Trump on power ?
I expect not, hope, at least understanding the direction, yes
¤ Just first point to start of just by headline... Is it even possible by any scientific math theory probability that atheist person can understand these forces deepness and size, power that put Donald J. Trump on power ?
I expect not, hope, at least understanding the direction, yes
28 April 2017 08:11
Margus Meigo replied to Regina Wells Rashida Oji's comment.
Oh my Eyes, You are The Regina : )
28 April 2017 08:08
Margus Meigo replied to Regina Wells Rashida Oji's comment.
But She , Wells, did mix in surprisingly well with CBL
some 9, 10 minutes in in here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5ddAAYasgM
Almost get me an idea to make a mix of this 2, to give more life to electronic
some 9, 10 minutes in in here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5ddAAYasgM
Almost get me an idea to make a mix of this 2, to give more life to electronic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5ddAAYasgM
28 April 2017 08:02
Margus Meigo replied to Regina Wells Rashida Oji's comment.
Bring to my mind, another type of Regina, Regina Spektor
She put a lot in to words for computerized humans to feel, not so soft in flow as it was meant t access deep in to programmed mind and invoke heart in it
She put a lot in to words for computerized humans to feel, not so soft in flow as it was meant t access deep in to programmed mind and invoke heart in it
28 April 2017 07:58
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's post.
I can dream
28 April 2017 05:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
they had in basic global public government science portal, under category of Your work, and predefined category "Remote viewing"
Officially,
Can send screenshot of it under my account if needed.
Officially,
Can send screenshot of it under my account if needed.
28 April 2017 04:59
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's photo.
I thought telepathy is ordinary and basic part of natural humans including skill to turn it off, or turn it of so that one self can not know to have it not find a way's to turn on, for special missions in protection, so no one can make You turn it on and to confuse You with imitated dear people,
Small amount of intuition perhaps always will stay, as long human is still a small part a human i guess that is natural part of what we was made for, but pure intuition (that have various spiritual levels) is what i assume can be call_ed trust in God
Small amount of intuition perhaps always will stay, as long human is still a small part a human i guess that is natural part of what we was made for, but pure intuition (that have various spiritual levels) is what i assume can be call_ed trust in God
28 April 2017 04:54
Margus Meigo replied to Prentis Goodwin's comment.
But to have a life, is not ours to demand, it is something we have to make possible, that it can be provided, to as many life workers as can be, and if we happen to be also among it, well, will that be also great, so we can do again, better and better
28 April 2017 04:47
Margus Meigo replied to Prentis Goodwin's comment.
Anything less then paradise is imprisonment and abomination for a female species, (and paradise is not even highest stage what she deserves, its bare minimum)
in whole, yes, they can and ARE handling greater battles , pains and considerations then our language can express but we should keep working, as man for as long, there is no depth left that bother's her, ..trusting our life to Her and if She needs, she will invoke us again for Good works gifting us with life
in whole, yes, they can and ARE handling greater battles , pains and considerations then our language can express but we should keep working, as man for as long, there is no depth left that bother's her, ..trusting our life to Her and if She needs, she will invoke us again for Good works gifting us with life
28 April 2017 04:45
Margus Meigo replied to Prentis Goodwin's comment.
to see whole picture, we have to ignore the beauty and see the situation.. or next time we will praise a women tied to a tank cannon as "she looks so nice.." we have to focus, if she is as free as she can be, and not give full supportive energy to the ones who hold her on, only to her, to get free FROM IT
But for that we have to be able fast observe, the basic enslavement who ever we see, in-vision this women life in picture, when did She last time got a taste of self picked wild strawberries or swim naked worry free of responsibilities for a system in private woods accompanied by butterflies ?
But for that we have to be able fast observe, the basic enslavement who ever we see, in-vision this women life in picture, when did She last time got a taste of self picked wild strawberries or swim naked worry free of responsibilities for a system in private woods accompanied by butterflies ?
28 April 2017 04:42
Margus Meigo replied to Prentis Goodwin's comment.
only thing, we have to remember to stay true, high heels, is a slavery symbol for woman as hard to tied as Tie is for man,
there newer will be free woman in a world who loves these footwear as there newer is a free man who is fully pro human who wears a tie,
this we just gotta understand, accept, and take in to account
there newer will be free woman in a world who loves these footwear as there newer is a free man who is fully pro human who wears a tie,
this we just gotta understand, accept, and take in to account
28 April 2017 04:38
Margus Meigo replied to Tim Richard's comment.
well, just had to look up... and so true..
https://therealdeal.com/new-research/topics/people/jared-kushner/
https://therealdeal.com/new-research/topics/people/jared-kushner/
https://therealdeal.com/new-research/topics/people/jared-kushner/
28 April 2017 04:32
Margus Meigo replied to Tim Richard's comment.
is that confirmed?
that is seriously messed, as why so openly
that is seriously messed, as why so openly
28 April 2017 04:21
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's post.
basic female inside : )
28 April 2017 04:19
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's post.
Alcohol was one of the weapons they used to Kill off the true Shamans and near only weapon that removed Finno-Ugri some versions of species protections so that we was put under "demo(n)crazy"
28 April 2017 04:14
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's photo.
Rome was the reason of ruins..
28 April 2017 04:12
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's post.
It is not so much as everyone who say so that they not believe, but for most of them it is their job to say so, and for many others it is fear why they say so and for third group there is inner intelligence testing You if You yourself know enough to prove so they can reveal them self ,
So we left with really small group of people who believe not, and from that, who Really are people... and who's Job from heavens is not to believe so they can be true learning to others how to handle situation so they also would be in peace (so the humans, who hold positions that we need to take in to account, so the positions will be in protection of other beings who can not talk for them self.. but who need to be taken in to "account" when peace is needed to make complete )
So we left with really small group of people who believe not, and from that, who Really are people... and who's Job from heavens is not to believe so they can be true learning to others how to handle situation so they also would be in peace (so the humans, who hold positions that we need to take in to account, so the positions will be in protection of other beings who can not talk for them self.. but who need to be taken in to "account" when peace is needed to make complete )
28 April 2017 04:11
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's post.
Happened , they try , tested that also in Estonia, in April Riots 2007 Tallinn when first attempt to take over gov was made in daylight
Now more clever one, with more work put int to was made in last election, by miracle we was able to save Presidential seat, but ..
Now more clever one, with more work put int to was made in last election, by miracle we was able to save Presidential seat, but ..
28 April 2017 04:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oh, yes, outer peace is also needed, for reasons i mentioned in message
28 April 2017 03:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but everything else in the list, looks beautiful
28 April 2017 03:53
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's post.
Love definition is "Others" Self we can not love, it is impossible mission with no practical end
Newer meant to be, it is in most direct conflict with actual love, Love basic is You love others but what invokes love is love that is felt to You.
"Self love" also gives energy and makes us feel good a bit in bubble illusion but it is a constant work that is again not what real love is about in Human world, that comes naturally,
I barely know basic of that, but this is the most elementary as word "good" is feminine, giving Life
Newer meant to be, it is in most direct conflict with actual love, Love basic is You love others but what invokes love is love that is felt to You.
"Self love" also gives energy and makes us feel good a bit in bubble illusion but it is a constant work that is again not what real love is about in Human world, that comes naturally,
I barely know basic of that, but this is the most elementary as word "good" is feminine, giving Life
28 April 2017 03:52
Margus Meigo replied to Laura L. Post's comment.
How You see?
28 April 2017 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to Laura L. Post's comment.
28 April 2017 02:19
Margus Meigo replied to Laura L. Post's comment.
(well, i guess it can't be professional whiteout what You just told, so that can be a "personal guess based on professional experience and knowledge" or logic, or intuition ... )
But as Law & fixed ethics prohibits even to express that, i understand.
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(Sometimes is unethical to be on boundaries of law, countless examples in history)
But as Law & fixed ethics prohibits even to express that, i understand.
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(Sometimes is unethical to be on boundaries of law, countless examples in history)
28 April 2017 01:44
Margus Meigo replied to Laura L. Post's comment.
That's true, it is nearly same in all arias.
But at times we can/need still take a pretty good professional guess.
But at times we can/need still take a pretty good professional guess.
28 April 2017 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Trapido's post.
Karin Miido las Sul vend vaatab üle asaja :)
28 April 2017 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
first of all lifts in this word can not fall as they have automatic locks on i heard
27 April 2017 14:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.complete.org/papers/fsethics/
http://gopher.quux.org:70/Computers/Papers/fsethics/fsethics.txt
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27 April 2017 04:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://gopher.quux.org:70/
http://gopher.quux.org:70/
27 April 2017 04:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
gopher://gopher.std.com/11/The%20Online%20Book%20Initiative/Anthems/Estonia
gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/world
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[Gopher menu] nemesis.cs.berkeley.edu:70 (8468 selectors)
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We offer FREE and inexpensive memberships for people interested
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mkcron MetaARPA Manage your cron jobs
setvmail MetaARPA Toggle domains you want to use for mail
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mkhomepg users Initialise and manage your webspace
mkvhost ARPA Manage your webspace / DNS for your domain (VHOST/DNS)
mkvlist ARPA Manage your mailing lists
mkvpm ARPA Manage your virtual POP3 mailboxes (VHOST/VPM)
mysql ARPA Login to your mysql database (DBA)
tweak ARPA Adjust and increase your disk quota (TWEAK)
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27 April 2017 03:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/0/feeds/voaheadlines/2017/Apr/26/voanews.com-a-world-press-freedom-report-never-so-threatened-3826056.html
Report: Media Freedom 'Never Been So Threatened'
"The rate at which democracies are approaching the tipping point is
alarming for all those who understand that, if media freedom is not
secure, then none of the other freedoms can be guaranteed," RSF
Secretary-General Christophe Deloire said.
Most countries show decline
Overall, 62 percent of countries measured showed a decline in press
freedom in the 2017 index.
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The United States ranked 43rd on the index, down two spots from
2016.Britain, which decided in a referendum last year to leave the
European Union, ranked 40th.
"Donald Trump's rise to power in the United States and the Brexit
campaign in the United Kingdom were marked by high-profile media
bashing, a highly toxic anti-media discourse that drove the world into
a new era of post-truth, disinformation, and fake news."
The report said the Middle East and North Africa region continues to be
the most dangerous for journalists to work, with Eastern Europe and
Central Asia close behind.
References
1. https://rsf.org/en/2017-press-freedom-index-ever-darker-world-map
2. https://rsf.org/en/journalism-weakened-democracys-erosion
Report: Media Freedom 'Never Been So Threatened'
"The rate at which democracies are approaching the tipping point is
alarming for all those who understand that, if media freedom is not
secure, then none of the other freedoms can be guaranteed," RSF
Secretary-General Christophe Deloire said.
Most countries show decline
Overall, 62 percent of countries measured showed a decline in press
freedom in the 2017 index.
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The United States ranked 43rd on the index, down two spots from
2016.Britain, which decided in a referendum last year to leave the
European Union, ranked 40th.
"Donald Trump's rise to power in the United States and the Brexit
campaign in the United Kingdom were marked by high-profile media
bashing, a highly toxic anti-media discourse that drove the world into
a new era of post-truth, disinformation, and fake news."
The report said the Middle East and North Africa region continues to be
the most dangerous for journalists to work, with Eastern Europe and
Central Asia close behind.
References
1. https://rsf.org/en/2017-press-freedom-index-ever-darker-world-map
2. https://rsf.org/en/journalism-weakened-democracys-erosion
https://rsf.org/en/2017-press-freedom-index-ever-darker-world-map
27 April 2017 03:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Gopher's hierarchical structure provided a platform for the first large-scale electronic library connections.[4] Gopher has been described by some enthusiasts as "faster and more efficient and so much more organised" than today's Web services. The Gopher protocol is still in use by enthusiasts, and although it has been almost entirely supplanted by the Web, a small population of actively maintained servers remains.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_(protocol)
The World Wide Web was in its infancy in 1991, and Gopher services quickly became established. By the late 1990s, Gopher had largely ceased expanding. Several factors contributed to Gopher's stagnation:
In February 1993, the University of Minnesota announced that it would charge licensing fees for the use of its implementation of the Gopher server.[11][10] As a consequence of this, some users were concerned that a licensing fee would also be charged for independent implementations.[12][13] Users were scared away from Gopher technology, to the advantage of the Web, of which CERN disclaimed ownership.[14] In September 2000, the University of Minnesota re-licensed its Gopher software under the GNU General Public License.[15]
Gopher client functionality was quickly duplicated by early Web browsers, such as Mosaic, which subsumed the protocol as part of their functions.
Gopher has a more rigid structure compared to the free-form HTML of the Web. With Gopher, every document has a defined format and type, and the typical user navigates through a single server-defined menu system to get to a particular document. This can be quite different from the way a typical user might traverse documents on the Web.
Gopher remains in active use by its enthusiasts, and there have been attempts to revive the use of Gopher on modern platforms and mobile devices. One such attempt is The Overbite Project, which hosts various browser extensions and modern clients.
As of 2012, there were approximately 160 gopher servers indexed by Veronica-2,
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Similar to a file on a Web server, a file on a Gopher server can be linked to as a menu item from any other Gopher server. Many servers take advantage of this inter-server linking to provide a directory of other servers that the user can access.
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https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/overbiteff/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_(protocol)
The World Wide Web was in its infancy in 1991, and Gopher services quickly became established. By the late 1990s, Gopher had largely ceased expanding. Several factors contributed to Gopher's stagnation:
In February 1993, the University of Minnesota announced that it would charge licensing fees for the use of its implementation of the Gopher server.[11][10] As a consequence of this, some users were concerned that a licensing fee would also be charged for independent implementations.[12][13] Users were scared away from Gopher technology, to the advantage of the Web, of which CERN disclaimed ownership.[14] In September 2000, the University of Minnesota re-licensed its Gopher software under the GNU General Public License.[15]
Gopher client functionality was quickly duplicated by early Web browsers, such as Mosaic, which subsumed the protocol as part of their functions.
Gopher has a more rigid structure compared to the free-form HTML of the Web. With Gopher, every document has a defined format and type, and the typical user navigates through a single server-defined menu system to get to a particular document. This can be quite different from the way a typical user might traverse documents on the Web.
Gopher remains in active use by its enthusiasts, and there have been attempts to revive the use of Gopher on modern platforms and mobile devices. One such attempt is The Overbite Project, which hosts various browser extensions and modern clients.
As of 2012, there were approximately 160 gopher servers indexed by Veronica-2,
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Similar to a file on a Web server, a file on a Gopher server can be linked to as a menu item from any other Gopher server. Many servers take advantage of this inter-server linking to provide a directory of other servers that the user can access.
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https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/overbiteff/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_(protocol)
27 April 2017 03:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Christian Universalism denies the doctrine of everlasting damnation, and proclaims belief in an entirely loving God who will ultimately redeem all human beings"
// yea this is the thing.. All HUMAN BEINGS... unfortunately, for most, are not
// yea this is the thing.. All HUMAN BEINGS... unfortunately, for most, are not
27 April 2017 03:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
He is: Unitarian Universalist
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Scripture All sources admissible, none required. Members are free to observe their own personally-favored literature.
Founder Members of American Unitarian Association and Universalist Church of America via consolidation
Origin May 1961
Congregations 1,070 worldwide
Number of followers 199,850 members of Unitarian Universalist Association
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Unitarian Universalism is a liberal religion characterized by a "free and responsible search for truth and meaning".[5][6] The Unitarian Universalist (UU) Church does not have a creed. Instead, UUs are unified by their shared search for spiritual growth. As such, UU congregations include many agnostics, theists, and atheists among their membership. The roots of UU are in liberal Christianity, specifically Unitarianism and Universalism. Unitarian Universalists state that from these traditions come a deep regard for intellectual freedom and inclusive love. Congregations and members seek inspiration and derive insight from all major world religions.[7]
The beliefs of individual Unitarian Universalists range widely, including atheism, agnosticism, pantheism, deism, Judaism, Islam,[8] Christianity, neopaganism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Daoism, Humanism, and many more.[9]
The Unitarian Universalist Association (UUA) was formed in 1961, a consolidation of the American Unitarian Association, established in 1825, and the Universalist Church of America,[10] established in 1793. It is headquartered in Boston, Massachusetts, and serves churches mostly in the United States. A group of thirty Philippine congregations is represented as a sole member within the UUA. The Canadian Unitarian Council (CUC) became an independent body in 2002.[11] The UUA and CUC are, in turn, two of the seventeen members of the International Council of Unitarians and Universalists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalist
There are separate movements and organizations who hold to classical Unitarian or Christian Universalist Christian theology and do not belong to the Unitarian Universalist Association or consider themselves UUs. The American Unitarian Conference and the Christian Universalist Association are the two most significant organizations representing these theological beliefs today. Christians who hold these beliefs tend to consider themselves the true Unitarians or Universalists and heirs of the theological legacy of the original American Unitarian Association or Universalist Church of America, and they do not wish to be confused with UUs and UUism. The Unity Church is another denomination that is often confused with Unitarian Universalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Universalist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Unitarian_Conference
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Universalist_Association
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Unitarian_Association
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universalist_Church_of_America
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Scripture All sources admissible, none required. Members are free to observe their own personally-favored literature.
Founder Members of American Unitarian Association and Universalist Church of America via consolidation
Origin May 1961
Congregations 1,070 worldwide
Number of followers 199,850 members of Unitarian Universalist Association
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Unitarian Universalism is a liberal religion characterized by a "free and responsible search for truth and meaning".[5][6] The Unitarian Universalist (UU) Church does not have a creed. Instead, UUs are unified by their shared search for spiritual growth. As such, UU congregations include many agnostics, theists, and atheists among their membership. The roots of UU are in liberal Christianity, specifically Unitarianism and Universalism. Unitarian Universalists state that from these traditions come a deep regard for intellectual freedom and inclusive love. Congregations and members seek inspiration and derive insight from all major world religions.[7]
The beliefs of individual Unitarian Universalists range widely, including atheism, agnosticism, pantheism, deism, Judaism, Islam,[8] Christianity, neopaganism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Daoism, Humanism, and many more.[9]
The Unitarian Universalist Association (UUA) was formed in 1961, a consolidation of the American Unitarian Association, established in 1825, and the Universalist Church of America,[10] established in 1793. It is headquartered in Boston, Massachusetts, and serves churches mostly in the United States. A group of thirty Philippine congregations is represented as a sole member within the UUA. The Canadian Unitarian Council (CUC) became an independent body in 2002.[11] The UUA and CUC are, in turn, two of the seventeen members of the International Council of Unitarians and Universalists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalist
There are separate movements and organizations who hold to classical Unitarian or Christian Universalist Christian theology and do not belong to the Unitarian Universalist Association or consider themselves UUs. The American Unitarian Conference and the Christian Universalist Association are the two most significant organizations representing these theological beliefs today. Christians who hold these beliefs tend to consider themselves the true Unitarians or Universalists and heirs of the theological legacy of the original American Unitarian Association or Universalist Church of America, and they do not wish to be confused with UUs and UUism. The Unity Church is another denomination that is often confused with Unitarian Universalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Universalist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Unitarian_Conference
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Universalist_Association
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Unitarian_Association
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universalist_Church_of_America
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Flaming_Chalice.svg/1200px-Flaming_Chalice.svg.png
27 April 2017 03:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
He advocates the idea that net neutrality is a kind of human network right: "Threats to the Internet, such as companies or governments that interfere with or snoop on Internet traffic, compromise basic human network rights."[50]
Berners-Lee joined the board of advisors of start-up State.com, based in London.[51] As of May 2012, Berners-Lee is president of the Open Data Institute.[52]
The Alliance for Affordable Internet (A4AI) was launched in October 2013 and Berners-Lee is leading the coalition of public and private organisations that includes Google, Facebook, Intel, and Microsoft. The A4AI seeks to make Internet access more affordable so that access is broadened in the developing world, where only 31% of people are online. Berners-Lee will work with those aiming to decrease internet access prices so that they fall below the UN Broadband Commission's worldwide target of 5% of monthly income.[53]
Berners-Lee holds the founders chair in Computer Science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, where he heads the Decentralized Information Group and is leading Solid, a joint project with the Qatar Computing Research Institute that aims to radically change the way Web applications work today, resulting in true data ownership as well as improved privacy.[
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In October 2016, he joined the Department of Computer Science at Oxford University as a professor[55] and as a fellow of Christ Church, one of the Oxford colleges
// oh.. there is still room for me to get my old ideas out, that still seem to have.. the room..
Berners-Lee joined the board of advisors of start-up State.com, based in London.[51] As of May 2012, Berners-Lee is president of the Open Data Institute.[52]
The Alliance for Affordable Internet (A4AI) was launched in October 2013 and Berners-Lee is leading the coalition of public and private organisations that includes Google, Facebook, Intel, and Microsoft. The A4AI seeks to make Internet access more affordable so that access is broadened in the developing world, where only 31% of people are online. Berners-Lee will work with those aiming to decrease internet access prices so that they fall below the UN Broadband Commission's worldwide target of 5% of monthly income.[53]
Berners-Lee holds the founders chair in Computer Science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, where he heads the Decentralized Information Group and is leading Solid, a joint project with the Qatar Computing Research Institute that aims to radically change the way Web applications work today, resulting in true data ownership as well as improved privacy.[
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In October 2016, he joined the Department of Computer Science at Oxford University as a professor[55] and as a fellow of Christ Church, one of the Oxford colleges
// oh.. there is still room for me to get my old ideas out, that still seem to have.. the room..
http://state.com/
27 April 2017 03:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
In June 2009, then-British Prime Minister Gordon Brown announced Berners-Lee would work with the UK government to help make data more open and accessible on the Web, building on the work of the Power of Information Task Force.[44] Berners-Lee and Professor Nigel Shadbolt are the two key figures behind data.gov.uk, a UK government project to open up almost all data acquired for official purposes for free re-use. Commenting on the opening up of Ordnance Survey data in April 2010, Berners-Lee said that: "The changes signal a wider cultural change in government based on an assumption that information should be in the public domain unless there is a good reason not to—not the other way around." He went on to say: "Greater openness, accountability and transparency in Government will give people greater choice and make it easier for individuals to get more directly involved in issues that matter to them."[45]
In November 2009, Berners-Lee launched the World Wide Web Foundation in order to "advance the Web to empower humanity by launching transformative programs that build local capacity to leverage the Web as a medium for positive change.
In November 2009, Berners-Lee launched the World Wide Web Foundation in order to "advance the Web to empower humanity by launching transformative programs that build local capacity to leverage the Web as a medium for positive change.
http://data.gov.uk/
27 April 2017 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Interesting beginning after name, first time saw something like that:
so he was like around 33 when he made the web...
Sir Timothy John Berners-Lee [ OM KBE FRS FREng FRSA FBCS ](
born 8 June 1955),[ ] also known as TimBL,
is an English computer scientist, best known as the inventor of the World Wide Web. He made a proposal for an information management system in March 1989,[3] and he implemented the first successful communication between a Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) client and server via the Internet in mid-November the same year
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee
Berners-Lee is the director of the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), which oversees the continued development of the Web. He is also the founder of the World Wide Web Foundation and is a senior researcher and holder of the founders chair at the MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory (CSAIL). ] He is a director of the Web Science Research Initiative (WSRI),[ ] and a member of the advisory board of the MIT Center for Collective Intelligence. In 2011, he was named as a member of the board of trustees of the Ford Foundation.
In 2004, Berners-Lee was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II for his pioneering work. In April 2009, he was elected a foreign associate of the United States National Academy of Sciences.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_of_the_Order_of_Merit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_Commander_of_the_Order_of_the_British_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellow_of_the_Royal_Society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellow_of_the_Royal_Academy_of_Engineering
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellow_of_the_Royal_Society_for_the_encouragement_of_Arts,_Manufactures_and_Commerce
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellow_of_the_British_Computer_Society
so he was like around 33 when he made the web...
Sir Timothy John Berners-Lee [ OM KBE FRS FREng FRSA FBCS ](
born 8 June 1955),[ ] also known as TimBL,
is an English computer scientist, best known as the inventor of the World Wide Web. He made a proposal for an information management system in March 1989,[3] and he implemented the first successful communication between a Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) client and server via the Internet in mid-November the same year
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee
Berners-Lee is the director of the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), which oversees the continued development of the Web. He is also the founder of the World Wide Web Foundation and is a senior researcher and holder of the founders chair at the MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory (CSAIL). ] He is a director of the Web Science Research Initiative (WSRI),[ ] and a member of the advisory board of the MIT Center for Collective Intelligence. In 2011, he was named as a member of the board of trustees of the Ford Foundation.
In 2004, Berners-Lee was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II for his pioneering work. In April 2009, he was elected a foreign associate of the United States National Academy of Sciences.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_of_the_Order_of_Merit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_Commander_of_the_Order_of_the_British_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellow_of_the_Royal_Society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellow_of_the_Royal_Academy_of_Engineering
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellow_of_the_Royal_Society_for_the_encouragement_of_Arts,_Manufactures_and_Commerce
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellow_of_the_British_Computer_Society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee
27 April 2017 03:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ohh jahh.. it makes extra economy...
-- American rule vs. Loser pays..
Patent troll is a categorical or pejorative term applied to person or company that attempts to enforce patent rights against accused infringers far beyond the patent's actual value or contribution to the prior art,[1] often through hardball legal tactics (frivolous litigation, vexatious litigation, SLAPP, chilling effects, and the like) usually backed by a large war chest, sometimes to the extreme of what critics regard as legally sanctioned extortion.[citation needed]
Patent trolls often do not manufacture products or supply services based upon the patents in question. However, some entities which do not practice their asserted patent may not be considered "patent trolls" when they license their patented technologies on reasonable terms in advance. Other related terms include patent holding company (PHC), patent assertion entity (PAE), and non-practicing entity (NPE), which may or may not be considered a "patent troll" depending on the position they are taking and the perception of that position by the public.
While in most cases the entities termed "trolls" are operating within the bounds of the legal system, their aggressive tactics achieve outcomes contrary to the origins of the patent system as a legislated social contract to foster and protect innovation (in the absence of such legislation, exclusivity of ideas is generally not a natural property right); the extremely rapid rise of the modern information economy has put the global intellectual property system under strain.[citation needed]
Patent trolling has been less of a problem in Europe than in the U.S. because Europe has a loser pays costs regime.[2] In contrast, the U.S. generally used the so-called American rule, providing that each party is responsible for paying its own attorney's fees, until the U.S. Supreme Court decided Octane Fitness, LLC v. ICON Health & Fitness, Inc. on April 29, 2014.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_troll
-- American rule vs. Loser pays..
Patent troll is a categorical or pejorative term applied to person or company that attempts to enforce patent rights against accused infringers far beyond the patent's actual value or contribution to the prior art,[1] often through hardball legal tactics (frivolous litigation, vexatious litigation, SLAPP, chilling effects, and the like) usually backed by a large war chest, sometimes to the extreme of what critics regard as legally sanctioned extortion.[citation needed]
Patent trolls often do not manufacture products or supply services based upon the patents in question. However, some entities which do not practice their asserted patent may not be considered "patent trolls" when they license their patented technologies on reasonable terms in advance. Other related terms include patent holding company (PHC), patent assertion entity (PAE), and non-practicing entity (NPE), which may or may not be considered a "patent troll" depending on the position they are taking and the perception of that position by the public.
While in most cases the entities termed "trolls" are operating within the bounds of the legal system, their aggressive tactics achieve outcomes contrary to the origins of the patent system as a legislated social contract to foster and protect innovation (in the absence of such legislation, exclusivity of ideas is generally not a natural property right); the extremely rapid rise of the modern information economy has put the global intellectual property system under strain.[citation needed]
Patent trolling has been less of a problem in Europe than in the U.S. because Europe has a loser pays costs regime.[2] In contrast, the U.S. generally used the so-called American rule, providing that each party is responsible for paying its own attorney's fees, until the U.S. Supreme Court decided Octane Fitness, LLC v. ICON Health & Fitness, Inc. on April 29, 2014.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_troll
27 April 2017 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
This is just SO retarded, ALL patents, the idea, that one human can alone own an idea, WILL be eliminated.
First i help to make system to collect data on who owns first, but after that.. for next generation
example:
"This patent is one of several owned Tumbleweed Communications and relates to a document delivery system that generates a unique URL for intended recipients of a document in order to deliver that documen "
Yea, like You need to patent it? What in a world, i my self can think that one out. why to be hostile and "own" it like that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_patents
First i help to make system to collect data on who owns first, but after that.. for next generation
example:
"This patent is one of several owned Tumbleweed Communications and relates to a document delivery system that generates a unique URL for intended recipients of a document in order to deliver that documen "
Yea, like You need to patent it? What in a world, i my self can think that one out. why to be hostile and "own" it like that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_patents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_patents
27 April 2017 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Web longest nightmare xD What name to go by to history
"Eolas (Irish pronunciation: [ˈoːl̪ˠəsˠ], meaning "Knowledge"; bacronym: "Embedded Objects Linked Across Systems") is a United States technology company accused of mainly acting as a patent troll[1] and described as "The Web’s longest nightmare". ] It was founded in 1994 by sole employee Michael David Doyle.
His University of California, San Francisco team claimed to have created the first web browser that supported plugins. They demonstrated it at Xerox PARC, in November 1993, at the second Bay Area SIGWEB meeting. The claim that this was an innovation, advanced to justify their patent application, has been contested by Pei-Yuan Wei,[4] who developed the earlier Viola browser, which added plugin capabilities in 1992,[5] a claim supported by inventor of the WWW Sir Tim Berners-Lee[6] and other Web pioneers "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eolas
And because these patents trolls and retardnets,
people have to chanage entire planet internet usage to force them click or do some things, develop new things... etc...
why is not allowed to just beat up people like that who ask and demand unreasonable things that forces limitations on people that cost more money and offer no benefit
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"Effects on other browsers
In February 2006, Microsoft modified its Internet Explorer web browser to appear to side-step the Eolas patent. The change, first discussed in 2003,[28] requires users to click once on an ActiveX control to "activate" it before they can use its interface. The specific message is "Click to activate this control", shown as a tooltip when the cursor is held over the embedded object. However, following a November 2007 announcement that Microsoft had "licensed the technologies from Eolas",[29] in April 2008, Microsoft released an update which removed the click-to-activate functionality, reverting the software to its original design.[30]
In June 2006, Opera Software released version 9 of its Opera browser for Windows and other operating systems, with modifications similar to Microsoft's.
Doyle has stated that Eolas would offer royalty-free licenses to non-commercial entities.[citation needed] A statement on Eolas' web site clarifies the company's policy with regard to such licenses.[31] As of 2007, no Eolas license has been granted to the Mozilla Foundation which develops the open-source Mozilla Firefox browser.
Workarounds
Before the company's patents were invalidated in 2012, one workaround was to dynamically create the HTML element containing the plug-in using JavaScript, rather than embedding it on the page.[citation needed] In this situation, Internet Explorer did not ask the user for an "activation" click because the patent did not cover embedded scripting.
Opera users could use User JavaScript functionality in the browser to work around this issue with locally modified JavaScript "
"Eolas (Irish pronunciation: [ˈoːl̪ˠəsˠ], meaning "Knowledge"; bacronym: "Embedded Objects Linked Across Systems") is a United States technology company accused of mainly acting as a patent troll[1] and described as "The Web’s longest nightmare". ] It was founded in 1994 by sole employee Michael David Doyle.
His University of California, San Francisco team claimed to have created the first web browser that supported plugins. They demonstrated it at Xerox PARC, in November 1993, at the second Bay Area SIGWEB meeting. The claim that this was an innovation, advanced to justify their patent application, has been contested by Pei-Yuan Wei,[4] who developed the earlier Viola browser, which added plugin capabilities in 1992,[5] a claim supported by inventor of the WWW Sir Tim Berners-Lee[6] and other Web pioneers "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eolas
And because these patents trolls and retardnets,
people have to chanage entire planet internet usage to force them click or do some things, develop new things... etc...
why is not allowed to just beat up people like that who ask and demand unreasonable things that forces limitations on people that cost more money and offer no benefit
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"Effects on other browsers
In February 2006, Microsoft modified its Internet Explorer web browser to appear to side-step the Eolas patent. The change, first discussed in 2003,[28] requires users to click once on an ActiveX control to "activate" it before they can use its interface. The specific message is "Click to activate this control", shown as a tooltip when the cursor is held over the embedded object. However, following a November 2007 announcement that Microsoft had "licensed the technologies from Eolas",[29] in April 2008, Microsoft released an update which removed the click-to-activate functionality, reverting the software to its original design.[30]
In June 2006, Opera Software released version 9 of its Opera browser for Windows and other operating systems, with modifications similar to Microsoft's.
Doyle has stated that Eolas would offer royalty-free licenses to non-commercial entities.[citation needed] A statement on Eolas' web site clarifies the company's policy with regard to such licenses.[31] As of 2007, no Eolas license has been granted to the Mozilla Foundation which develops the open-source Mozilla Firefox browser.
Workarounds
Before the company's patents were invalidated in 2012, one workaround was to dynamically create the HTML element containing the plug-in using JavaScript, rather than embedding it on the page.[citation needed] In this situation, Internet Explorer did not ask the user for an "activation" click because the patent did not cover embedded scripting.
Opera users could use User JavaScript functionality in the browser to work around this issue with locally modified JavaScript "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eolas
27 April 2017 02:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And no idea what they anted to get but seems like full retarded, .. the amount of peoples... not sure for the word, but it seems unbelievable. and they spend MILLIONS for this lawsuit, about "beginning of the all internet media usage ownership.. "
After threatening web companies for more than a decade, Michael Doyle and his patent-holding company Eolas Technologies — named after the Irish word for knowledge — may be finished.
An eight-member federal jury in East Texas deliberated Thursday for just a few hours before concluding that all of Eolas’ asserted claims of ownership to technology allowing access to the interactive web were invalid. "
" Eolas maintained its patents entitled the company to royalty payments from just about anyone running a website with “interactive” features, like rotating pictures or streaming video. The chief issue in the case was whether the first computer program that allowed access to an “interactive web” was created by the little-known Chicago biologist Doyle, who runs Eolas out of Chicago. Or was it one of the web pioneers put on the stand by the defendant companies — such as Pei-Yuan Wei and his Viola browser, or Dave Raggett and his <embed> tag?
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The dueling teams of lawyers have spent millions creating elaborate presentations, trying for the last three days to convince a jury of average folks in a federal district court in eastern Texas that their side was right.
If the jury had upheld the patents, there would have been a potentially brutal damages phase in which Google, YouTube, Yahoo, Amazon, JC Penney, CDW Corp. and Staples would have been sued for infringement and been asked for more than $600 million in damages, with the majority of that coming from Google, Amazon and Yahoo.
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These are some grazy big names
Google spokesman Jim Prosser was less effusive. “We are pleased that the court found the patents invalid, as it affirms our assertion that the claims are without merit,” Prosser said.
Despite winning, Amazon declined to comment.
Lead Eolas attorney Mike McKool did not return a call seeking comment.
However, Douglas Cawley of McKool Smith in Dallas, a lawyer for Eolas did tell Bloomberg, “We’re disappointed, but we respect the jury’s decision. We will evaluate our options.”
As for the many companies that settled with Eolas, they might be regretting that pragmatic decision in light of the verdict.
Those companies include: Apple, Argosy Publishing, Blockbuster, Citigroup, eBay, Frito-Lay, JP Morgan Chase, New Frontier Media, Office Depot, Perot Systems, Playboy Enterprises International, Rent-A-Center, Sun Microsystems (bought by Oracle while this litigation was underway), and Texas Instruments.
www.wired.com/2012/02/interactive-web-patent/
After threatening web companies for more than a decade, Michael Doyle and his patent-holding company Eolas Technologies — named after the Irish word for knowledge — may be finished.
An eight-member federal jury in East Texas deliberated Thursday for just a few hours before concluding that all of Eolas’ asserted claims of ownership to technology allowing access to the interactive web were invalid. "
" Eolas maintained its patents entitled the company to royalty payments from just about anyone running a website with “interactive” features, like rotating pictures or streaming video. The chief issue in the case was whether the first computer program that allowed access to an “interactive web” was created by the little-known Chicago biologist Doyle, who runs Eolas out of Chicago. Or was it one of the web pioneers put on the stand by the defendant companies — such as Pei-Yuan Wei and his Viola browser, or Dave Raggett and his <embed> tag?
--
The dueling teams of lawyers have spent millions creating elaborate presentations, trying for the last three days to convince a jury of average folks in a federal district court in eastern Texas that their side was right.
If the jury had upheld the patents, there would have been a potentially brutal damages phase in which Google, YouTube, Yahoo, Amazon, JC Penney, CDW Corp. and Staples would have been sued for infringement and been asked for more than $600 million in damages, with the majority of that coming from Google, Amazon and Yahoo.
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These are some grazy big names
Google spokesman Jim Prosser was less effusive. “We are pleased that the court found the patents invalid, as it affirms our assertion that the claims are without merit,” Prosser said.
Despite winning, Amazon declined to comment.
Lead Eolas attorney Mike McKool did not return a call seeking comment.
However, Douglas Cawley of McKool Smith in Dallas, a lawyer for Eolas did tell Bloomberg, “We’re disappointed, but we respect the jury’s decision. We will evaluate our options.”
As for the many companies that settled with Eolas, they might be regretting that pragmatic decision in light of the verdict.
Those companies include: Apple, Argosy Publishing, Blockbuster, Citigroup, eBay, Frito-Lay, JP Morgan Chase, New Frontier Media, Office Depot, Perot Systems, Playboy Enterprises International, Rent-A-Center, Sun Microsystems (bought by Oracle while this litigation was underway), and Texas Instruments.
www.wired.com/2012/02/interactive-web-patent/
27 April 2017 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
NCSA Mosaic, or simply Mosaic, is a discontinued early web browser. It has been credited with popularizing the World Wide Web. It was also a client for earlier protocols such as File Transfer Protocol, Network News Transfer Protocol, and Gopher. The browser was named for its support of multiple internet protocols.
Mosaic was developed at the National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA)[5] at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign beginning in late 1992. NCSA released the browser in 1993
Netscape Navigator was later developed by Netscape, which employed many of the original Mosaic authors; however, it intentionally shared no code with Mosaic. Netscape Navigator's code descendant is Mozilla Firefox. Starting in 1995 Mosaic lost a lot of share to Netscape Navigator, and by 1997 only had a tiny fraction of users left, by which time the project was discontinued. Microsoft licensed Mosaic to create Internet Explorer in 1995.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosaic_(web_browser)
Mosaic was developed at the National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA)[5] at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign beginning in late 1992. NCSA released the browser in 1993
Netscape Navigator was later developed by Netscape, which employed many of the original Mosaic authors; however, it intentionally shared no code with Mosaic. Netscape Navigator's code descendant is Mozilla Firefox. Starting in 1995 Mosaic lost a lot of share to Netscape Navigator, and by 1997 only had a tiny fraction of users left, by which time the project was discontinued. Microsoft licensed Mosaic to create Internet Explorer in 1995.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosaic_(web_browser)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosaic_(web_browser)
27 April 2017 02:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Another thing i discovered that was dreamed, the layer thing, that was dreamed.. and now i discovered it, wonderful
// well, i should stop being feel like "i wish i should have.. would have..." .. well, but as being feeling great that it is on creation... just now have to dream strong that imagined rules and regulations and understandings also would be included in it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCkm0lL-6lc&feature=youtu.be
// well, i should stop being feel like "i wish i should have.. would have..." .. well, but as being feeling great that it is on creation... just now have to dream strong that imagined rules and regulations and understandings also would be included in it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCkm0lL-6lc&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCkm0lL-6lc&feature=youtu.be
27 April 2017 02:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Comments:
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Jonathan North Priluck
As a mathematician, I understand that my best protection is built into the world. Obscurity, vast sums of data, huge amounts of electrons spinning around the globe at the speed of light. The chances of getting affected by these problems is astonishingly small in any given location. I work for the United States Navy, I tell people every day, security is an individual responsibility, which operates on the collective level. If you are secure, the person next to you is probably also secure. You can spend a lot of time and energy trying to avoid possible (but unlikely) events from happening. That time spent, would have been better spent doing something productive and positive.
Real threats, things that can actually harm you, often give warning signs. A fire for example. Buildings do occasionally burn down, but very few lives are lost. Why? Because people know what to do when they smell smoke. Most folks know their own environment very well. The problems arise when there are vast shifts, or mass movements. Still, the correct response to danger is usually not stark fear and terror. The way to prepare for the unexpected is to practice dealing monkey with the unexpected. That was a harmless example. But it makes the point. If you didn’t notice the monkey you were unaware. If you noticed the monkey, you were paying attention.
Life is full of mysteries and conundrums. Be mysterious yourself. That’s a strategy that can sometimes work. Never tell anyone what your final objective is. Magic and misdirection are valuable tools. Tools are just things, they are not active. When you take action there will always be unintended consequences. This is not an excuse for inaction.
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WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
Sophistic argument by the guilty party. You sound much like mathematician Nash whose game theory was heavily biased by his own personal schizophrenia which he believed fervently was real and not a figment of a damaged imagination. Ergo your premises are flawed and your arguments illogical and irrational.
Premise one- lots of information alias needle in haystack argument. False analogy- you claim the vast sea of data renders it very difficult to find he one plankton. This is known to be false, considering the data collection auto-tags everything with metadata- at least date, time and origin. This is later filtered by more sophisticated meta-data collation systems or human beings. So this claim lacks credibility.
Premise two- real threats give warning signs. False analogy- one example you should know well- US drones, US Gov own admission kill 98% civilians who have nothing to do with terrorism. Where was the real danger warning signs to them? Or the hundreds of thousands of Syrians shot by US supplied/trained FSA/Al Qeada/Al Nusra? Where was the danger signal to the Syrian forces bombed by one hour by US planes in Deir ez-Zor, killing 62 troops and “paving the way” for Islamic State militants?
US Navy- you have zero credibility, and worse- zero accountability. The entire US Armed Forces and “Intelligence” sectors are out of control engaged in war crimes, outright aggression, and continually breaking fundamental laws of war and sovereignty, in its’ in neo-colonial adventurism. US Navy along sides other tools of US Empire, are wholly complicit and engaged in the mass surveillance data fiasco. Be ashamed. You have very real reasons to be.
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Alois Mahdal
Yes. people know what to do when they smell smoke. They also know what to do when food smells, tastes bad or gives them aches. But they don’t know what to do when their browser warns them about TLS. They don’t know when their OS warns them how many privileges an app has. They don’t know how not to give up control of their devices to someone else (and how to *know* whom are they giving it). They don’t know how to manage all the contacts without submitting their social networks hostage to completely foreign companies. They don’t know how how to be careful with e-mails. They don’t know how malware looks like (IOW, they don’t know that malware looks exactly the same like any other software).
For most people, the whole computer/internet thing is still about some (unreachable) potential of “life innovation” that asks to be explored, used and spread. Every step in that direction, new service, app or device feature learned to use brings new convenience, new way of connecting, joy. But to deal with long-term increase of real dangers this world requires a completely different mindset. We have to realize that while we’re but very slowly learning to ride this beast to make us stronger, *others* are learning to ride it to exploit our weaknesses. And that’s not just governments, mafias, evil companies and terrorists. More and more, it will be kidnappers, slavers, burglars, petty criminals.
https://internethealthreport.org/v01/privacy-and-security/?utm_source=desktop-snippet&utm_campaign=lpt&utm_medium=snippet&utm_term=6276&utm_content=beta&sample_rate=0.01&snippet_name=6276#unhealthy
--
Jonathan North Priluck
As a mathematician, I understand that my best protection is built into the world. Obscurity, vast sums of data, huge amounts of electrons spinning around the globe at the speed of light. The chances of getting affected by these problems is astonishingly small in any given location. I work for the United States Navy, I tell people every day, security is an individual responsibility, which operates on the collective level. If you are secure, the person next to you is probably also secure. You can spend a lot of time and energy trying to avoid possible (but unlikely) events from happening. That time spent, would have been better spent doing something productive and positive.
Real threats, things that can actually harm you, often give warning signs. A fire for example. Buildings do occasionally burn down, but very few lives are lost. Why? Because people know what to do when they smell smoke. Most folks know their own environment very well. The problems arise when there are vast shifts, or mass movements. Still, the correct response to danger is usually not stark fear and terror. The way to prepare for the unexpected is to practice dealing monkey with the unexpected. That was a harmless example. But it makes the point. If you didn’t notice the monkey you were unaware. If you noticed the monkey, you were paying attention.
Life is full of mysteries and conundrums. Be mysterious yourself. That’s a strategy that can sometimes work. Never tell anyone what your final objective is. Magic and misdirection are valuable tools. Tools are just things, they are not active. When you take action there will always be unintended consequences. This is not an excuse for inaction.
------------
WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
Sophistic argument by the guilty party. You sound much like mathematician Nash whose game theory was heavily biased by his own personal schizophrenia which he believed fervently was real and not a figment of a damaged imagination. Ergo your premises are flawed and your arguments illogical and irrational.
Premise one- lots of information alias needle in haystack argument. False analogy- you claim the vast sea of data renders it very difficult to find he one plankton. This is known to be false, considering the data collection auto-tags everything with metadata- at least date, time and origin. This is later filtered by more sophisticated meta-data collation systems or human beings. So this claim lacks credibility.
Premise two- real threats give warning signs. False analogy- one example you should know well- US drones, US Gov own admission kill 98% civilians who have nothing to do with terrorism. Where was the real danger warning signs to them? Or the hundreds of thousands of Syrians shot by US supplied/trained FSA/Al Qeada/Al Nusra? Where was the danger signal to the Syrian forces bombed by one hour by US planes in Deir ez-Zor, killing 62 troops and “paving the way” for Islamic State militants?
US Navy- you have zero credibility, and worse- zero accountability. The entire US Armed Forces and “Intelligence” sectors are out of control engaged in war crimes, outright aggression, and continually breaking fundamental laws of war and sovereignty, in its’ in neo-colonial adventurism. US Navy along sides other tools of US Empire, are wholly complicit and engaged in the mass surveillance data fiasco. Be ashamed. You have very real reasons to be.
---
Alois Mahdal
Yes. people know what to do when they smell smoke. They also know what to do when food smells, tastes bad or gives them aches. But they don’t know what to do when their browser warns them about TLS. They don’t know when their OS warns them how many privileges an app has. They don’t know how not to give up control of their devices to someone else (and how to *know* whom are they giving it). They don’t know how to manage all the contacts without submitting their social networks hostage to completely foreign companies. They don’t know how how to be careful with e-mails. They don’t know how malware looks like (IOW, they don’t know that malware looks exactly the same like any other software).
For most people, the whole computer/internet thing is still about some (unreachable) potential of “life innovation” that asks to be explored, used and spread. Every step in that direction, new service, app or device feature learned to use brings new convenience, new way of connecting, joy. But to deal with long-term increase of real dangers this world requires a completely different mindset. We have to realize that while we’re but very slowly learning to ride this beast to make us stronger, *others* are learning to ride it to exploit our weaknesses. And that’s not just governments, mafias, evil companies and terrorists. More and more, it will be kidnappers, slavers, burglars, petty criminals.
https://internethealthreport.org/v01/privacy-and-security/?utm_source=desktop-snippet&utm_campaign=lpt&utm_medium=snippet&utm_term=6276&utm_content=beta&sample_rate=0.01&snippet_name=6276#unhealthy
https://internethealthreport.org/v01/privacy-and-security/?utm_source=desktop-snippet&utm_campaign=lpt&utm_medium=snippet&utm_term=6276&utm_content=beta&sample_rate=0.01&snippet_name=6276#unhealthy
27 April 2017 02:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
New Articles in 2015/2016
Stallman Speaks on Security (is he dumb?) September 2016
FSF Restricting Information (what else is new)
Stallman Wants to Tax You Big Time
Moving the Goalposts, Double Standards - Pretending That Only Software Can Be Free
1984 By Orwell Warned us about Doublethink and Newspeak
Stallman whines about calling it "GNU/Linux" when really it should be called "BSD Gnu Linux"
Common Criticisms of this Web Site about GNG/GNU
90 percent of Linux users are using CPanel, more costly/restricted/proprietary than MS Windows
Alternative Simple License instead of GPL
Another Alternative Simple License instead of GPL
Must read quotes from Intelligent People regarding free software
Hidden Costs: bandwidth Bills $30,000 for smaller "free" software projects (and free speech projects, even though wikipedia censors your speech and deletes pages 99 percent of the time)
Thinks I do like about Stallman (but not all GNG folk would agree)
Don't Use Android or MacOS? The ethics of Richard Stallman
Modified GPL and LGPL licenses are a joke
Many of the old articles from 2007 have also been updated. This site has many links interspersed and at the bottom of pages. Check them out.
Oldies but goodies
GPL Written by a Monkey
Hey now, that's an insult to all monkeys. Monkeys are smarter than that.
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-misc-discuss/2006-12/msg00141.html
Stallman Speaks on Security (is he dumb?) September 2016
FSF Restricting Information (what else is new)
Stallman Wants to Tax You Big Time
Moving the Goalposts, Double Standards - Pretending That Only Software Can Be Free
1984 By Orwell Warned us about Doublethink and Newspeak
Stallman whines about calling it "GNU/Linux" when really it should be called "BSD Gnu Linux"
Common Criticisms of this Web Site about GNG/GNU
90 percent of Linux users are using CPanel, more costly/restricted/proprietary than MS Windows
Alternative Simple License instead of GPL
Another Alternative Simple License instead of GPL
Must read quotes from Intelligent People regarding free software
Hidden Costs: bandwidth Bills $30,000 for smaller "free" software projects (and free speech projects, even though wikipedia censors your speech and deletes pages 99 percent of the time)
Thinks I do like about Stallman (but not all GNG folk would agree)
Don't Use Android or MacOS? The ethics of Richard Stallman
Modified GPL and LGPL licenses are a joke
Many of the old articles from 2007 have also been updated. This site has many links interspersed and at the bottom of pages. Check them out.
Oldies but goodies
GPL Written by a Monkey
Hey now, that's an insult to all monkeys. Monkeys are smarter than that.
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-misc-discuss/2006-12/msg00141.html
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-misc-discuss/2006-12/msg00141.html
27 April 2017 02:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
another sample, well looks he really not like it:
" Well, Richard Stallman of the FSF has made a fool of himself again. In a video where he is interviewed, he speaks about how systems and mainframes should not have security because essentially security literally equals fascism.
But dummy dummy Stallman spoke too soon, because the first thing Stallman himself values is his own personal security: which is why he hates being tracked by GPS, he uses GnuPG secure signatures (those are a joke, but that's another story, the point is he values security). Stallman doesn't like when your web data is tracked, doesn't like google because it breaches your personal security. So I guess since Stallman values security, he is the biggest fascist.
What's a word that starts with H, ends in E... oh shit that's not hippo critter is it?
Stallman is constantly whining about how google invades your personal privacy (i.e. SECURITY). Does stallman use drapes or blinds on his windows? does he have a voicemail system to check land line phone messages and does he value the fact that no one can log in and listen to his calls and voice mails... because he is a FASCIST, since he values security?
I guess Stallman's data should all be open, so for example without any security on this mainframe we live in called the real world, I demand that Stallman not have any password for his email account and that any body be able to log in and view, and use, his email.. after all shouldn't hackers (idiots) have the free access to Stallman's information? I also demand GnuPG (GPG) email signatures be hackable so anyone can use anyone's, without any security. Or how about basic server security like his fucking FTP server - shouldn't anyone be able to log in to GNU website and modify any page? To their liking. Like a unsecure open wiki, where anything goes. Shit goes down folks!
Now I do agree with Stallman that Apple tards and fanboys are absurd, and, well retarded.
I'll continue this article later, this is getting really boring with Stallman being a hypocrite pretty much 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Fuck this shit, I'm out.
http://gng.z505.com/stallman-security.htm
" Well, Richard Stallman of the FSF has made a fool of himself again. In a video where he is interviewed, he speaks about how systems and mainframes should not have security because essentially security literally equals fascism.
But dummy dummy Stallman spoke too soon, because the first thing Stallman himself values is his own personal security: which is why he hates being tracked by GPS, he uses GnuPG secure signatures (those are a joke, but that's another story, the point is he values security). Stallman doesn't like when your web data is tracked, doesn't like google because it breaches your personal security. So I guess since Stallman values security, he is the biggest fascist.
What's a word that starts with H, ends in E... oh shit that's not hippo critter is it?
Stallman is constantly whining about how google invades your personal privacy (i.e. SECURITY). Does stallman use drapes or blinds on his windows? does he have a voicemail system to check land line phone messages and does he value the fact that no one can log in and listen to his calls and voice mails... because he is a FASCIST, since he values security?
I guess Stallman's data should all be open, so for example without any security on this mainframe we live in called the real world, I demand that Stallman not have any password for his email account and that any body be able to log in and view, and use, his email.. after all shouldn't hackers (idiots) have the free access to Stallman's information? I also demand GnuPG (GPG) email signatures be hackable so anyone can use anyone's, without any security. Or how about basic server security like his fucking FTP server - shouldn't anyone be able to log in to GNU website and modify any page? To their liking. Like a unsecure open wiki, where anything goes. Shit goes down folks!
Now I do agree with Stallman that Apple tards and fanboys are absurd, and, well retarded.
I'll continue this article later, this is getting really boring with Stallman being a hypocrite pretty much 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Fuck this shit, I'm out.
http://gng.z505.com/stallman-security.htm
http://gng.z505.com/stallman-security.htm
27 April 2017 02:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You see, as software is advertised "Free" and popularized, this means that more and more people download the software, increasing the huge GigaBytes worth of downloads. Server bills and electrical bills become huge, because millions of people are downloading 4GB or 8GB DVD images. $30,000 per month is a fairly small community project bill.
Go ahead do some research on what it costs to run OpenBSD servers in a basement and pay for T1 style internet connections, air conditioning, electrical, and, well... who was that liar again that told you software is "different" because it is freely replicatiable? Stallman? or some other fool
What's a large project cost to "serve" freetards? At one time Ubuntu was operating at a loss, mailing freetards and gnutards free CD's paying the postage bill, using magic money from thin air.
"You see, free software has been so successful because we have been able to do it without money"
--Richard Stallman
Oh really. Liar, liar, pants on fire...
It probably costs less money to give people free tables, than to give them free software. Replicating software becomes an exponential expense when it is free, because everyone downloads multiple copies of it thinking there are no consequences or repercussions.
Whereas if the software cost money, people wouldn't abuse the download service provided. Then there is the cost of apt-get, yum, and RPM package managmement servers running 24 hours a day for freetard losers to get off with their latest apps. Oh I guess that's why Apple/Microshaft charges money for their stuff, to pay the bills, and actually pay their programmers salaries. Hmm, interesting business idea. Evil. But interesting. Who would have guessed that servers cost money to run, and tens of thousands of dollars that. Wow.
http://gng.z505.com/hidden-costs.htm
Go ahead do some research on what it costs to run OpenBSD servers in a basement and pay for T1 style internet connections, air conditioning, electrical, and, well... who was that liar again that told you software is "different" because it is freely replicatiable? Stallman? or some other fool
What's a large project cost to "serve" freetards? At one time Ubuntu was operating at a loss, mailing freetards and gnutards free CD's paying the postage bill, using magic money from thin air.
"You see, free software has been so successful because we have been able to do it without money"
--Richard Stallman
Oh really. Liar, liar, pants on fire...
It probably costs less money to give people free tables, than to give them free software. Replicating software becomes an exponential expense when it is free, because everyone downloads multiple copies of it thinking there are no consequences or repercussions.
Whereas if the software cost money, people wouldn't abuse the download service provided. Then there is the cost of apt-get, yum, and RPM package managmement servers running 24 hours a day for freetard losers to get off with their latest apps. Oh I guess that's why Apple/Microshaft charges money for their stuff, to pay the bills, and actually pay their programmers salaries. Hmm, interesting business idea. Evil. But interesting. Who would have guessed that servers cost money to run, and tens of thousands of dollars that. Wow.
http://gng.z505.com/hidden-costs.htm
http://gng.z505.com/hidden-costs.htm
27 April 2017 02:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just posted this one also here, to deal with these kind of shows and people some day, or it might slip from a mind
27 April 2017 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and then there is emotional retards who turn all this cuteness in to communist crap TV shows top of that shaming video sharers who give them material to make of TV show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljJw5BQTS4M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljJw5BQTS4M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljJw5BQTS4M
27 April 2017 01:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 years old https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZsYy0wYBBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZsYy0wYBBA
27 April 2017 01:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
is raining.. my mother say
// kids should be teaching how to react and solve in this situation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sKdDyyanGk
// kids should be teaching how to react and solve in this situation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sKdDyyanGk
27 April 2017 01:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
moving out if can not have boyfriend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcnIQrOr90U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcnIQrOr90U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcnIQrOr90U
27 April 2017 01:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-IKvHS3_8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-IKvHS3_8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-IKvHS3_8w
27 April 2017 01:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Boyfriend thread, again there is some organizations that will turn that to god knows what
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNDiATCnrxI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNDiATCnrxI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNDiATCnrxI
27 April 2017 01:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Toddlers near over the top still
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNstKH-P48Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNstKH-P48Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNstKH-P48Y
27 April 2017 01:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
it is interesting, how mind works logically but ..
Like "vampire surgian... these not even exist... i am first one... tis means i am first one.. so i will be alone.."
// parents laughing but they should take some proper drugs then they not laugh so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWlXzu7K2zc
Like "vampire surgian... these not even exist... i am first one... tis means i am first one.. so i will be alone.."
// parents laughing but they should take some proper drugs then they not laugh so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWlXzu7K2zc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWlXzu7K2zc
27 April 2017 01:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" this blanket is piece of s..
like how parents try to sush kids
"omg she thinks she knows everything " xD
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR0NAbyh2Sg
like how parents try to sush kids
"omg she thinks she knows everything " xD
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR0NAbyh2Sg
27 April 2017 01:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
OMG
// soul exchange ?
// i mean kid kind of have to know that from media to talk so or what?Would be great to investigate interests besides what u see can come in to you also
youtu.be/VzvHnmqplvY
// soul exchange ?
// i mean kid kind of have to know that from media to talk so or what?Would be great to investigate interests besides what u see can come in to you also
youtu.be/VzvHnmqplvY
27 April 2017 00:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// laugh in here but in truth , just to think about ALL else who looks in to this how, and study what
and wonder where the alien thing comes and how
i mean we can laugh it off but if we would not know what is alien what would they say then
https://youtu.be/imdJwT9uUnM
and wonder where the alien thing comes and how
i mean we can laugh it off but if we would not know what is alien what would they say then
https://youtu.be/imdJwT9uUnM
https://youtu.be/imdJwT9uUnM
27 April 2017 00:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
There is great amount of videos on that
https://youtu.be/-orcZQmsz4s
https://youtu.be/-orcZQmsz4s
https://youtu.be/-orcZQmsz4s
27 April 2017 00:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" i would not give mercy because boys should newer hurt girls
// so true
https://youtu.be/YPyAmB1rwf4
// so true
https://youtu.be/YPyAmB1rwf4
https://youtu.be/YPyAmB1rwf4
27 April 2017 00:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Even kid knows, God AND Jesus
"God and J is not made of Adoms because ad(a)oms was not created before G and J was Created...
//parents was "...that was good stuff... Wou...
xD
youtube.com/watch?v=w-bhHimEEE8
"God and J is not made of Adoms because ad(a)oms was not created before G and J was Created...
//parents was "...that was good stuff... Wou...
xD
youtube.com/watch?v=w-bhHimEEE8
27 April 2017 00:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so many normal adults have lost ability to talk on normal thoughts like that
www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-FF6Ld_hA0
www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-FF6Ld_hA0
27 April 2017 00:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
still not a princess
xD
"because i am real person... and this is fake
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCYkGCGav5Q
xD
"because i am real person... and this is fake
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCYkGCGav5Q
27 April 2017 00:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" i am not a princess becouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hmH6PvIr5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hmH6PvIr5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hmH6PvIr5M
27 April 2017 00:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"i was not trying to eat it but giving to you"
ending is Awww :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jjxOBwrqNs
ending is Awww :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jjxOBwrqNs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jjxOBwrqNs
27 April 2017 00:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Real children are so Awww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jjxOBwrqNs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jjxOBwrqNs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jjxOBwrqNs
27 April 2017 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ending with some Child
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN8rL0TsmSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN8rL0TsmSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN8rL0TsmSE
27 April 2017 00:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
same time some parents, third kind, teaching to kid "what does Borat say"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_RGIRpVkV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_RGIRpVkV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_RGIRpVkV8
27 April 2017 00:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
war in about making
"and then Israelites..
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu0NVSXM9cY
"and then Israelites..
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu0NVSXM9cY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu0NVSXM9cY
26 April 2017 23:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
not sure if it is same kid but still...
here we just have to trust in some other forces keeping that on line
//cap to minute 4
https://youtu.be/nieVIurPSbc?t=4m7s
here we just have to trust in some other forces keeping that on line
//cap to minute 4
https://youtu.be/nieVIurPSbc?t=4m7s
26 April 2017 23:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and then there is these kids...
unfortunately, their community (religious community), is not knowing how to keep these ind of people as .. this is a it dark topic but just, for reminder for Max Spiers " Priest vs. Scientists" age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V64DSYX_9QI
// but NASA is fast on tapping on all the fields they are interested
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or the one here :
freaking controlling what kid is, talking on kids name and does not let kid to speak.. well.. i understand... messages have to be sanitized at times... but these 700 people.. and last group.. they really... they really i can say need help, to remove their ties
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdUGoFTfP7w
// hypnotizing bastards they can easily become , these networks,
for every kind, their own kind of hypno.. as long there is to sides to put in category and they can eliminate rest if needed, what can not be managed
// much more hard to take work on these topics
unfortunately, their community (religious community), is not knowing how to keep these ind of people as .. this is a it dark topic but just, for reminder for Max Spiers " Priest vs. Scientists" age
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V64DSYX_9QI
// but NASA is fast on tapping on all the fields they are interested
---
or the one here :
freaking controlling what kid is, talking on kids name and does not let kid to speak.. well.. i understand... messages have to be sanitized at times... but these 700 people.. and last group.. they really... they really i can say need help, to remove their ties
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdUGoFTfP7w
// hypnotizing bastards they can easily become , these networks,
for every kind, their own kind of hypno.. as long there is to sides to put in category and they can eliminate rest if needed, what can not be managed
// much more hard to take work on these topics
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/V64DSYX_9QI/maxresdefault.jpg
26 April 2017 23:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
on last video, a lot of related great videos. So yea, wonder what kind of another level world comes from it, if our old minds can do anything at all, then now is the time,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhKD6ce61eE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhKD6ce61eE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhKD6ce61eE
26 April 2017 23:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and so they go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot9PSqe6bJY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot9PSqe6bJY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot9PSqe6bJY
26 April 2017 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
starting at 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdQcFn-842s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdQcFn-842s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdQcFn-842s
26 April 2017 23:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
More kids on money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbCzizSI8mo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbCzizSI8mo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbCzizSI8mo
26 April 2017 23:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
One more from Him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do97LW1jws8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do97LW1jws8
26 April 2017 23:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
marketing top, using kids and kids them self
hahaha guy managed to read out ones phone-number on ait xD
And sometimes on Fox happens things they not plan :D
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqahycSLCpk
.
hahaha guy managed to read out ones phone-number on ait xD
And sometimes on Fox happens things they not plan :D
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqahycSLCpk
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqahycSLCpk
26 April 2017 23:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"he has been my idol so long"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLQyGxjpDU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLQyGxjpDU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLQyGxjpDU4
26 April 2017 23:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 year old study's wall-street and stock-market, economy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KWkIMEV1rI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KWkIMEV1rI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KWkIMEV1rI
26 April 2017 23:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So yea, 11 y old gunrights etc
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dx2kTv06iA
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dx2kTv06iA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dx2kTv06iA
26 April 2017 23:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and then they have "freee energy device" shameless add clued to the end of video, ... man these marketing people got no limits.
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Will look up who is that bastard later:
crankmoney.com / glenn@nsearch.com /project.Nsearch.com
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Will look up who is that bastard later:
crankmoney.com / glenn@nsearch.com /project.Nsearch.com
http://crankmoney.com/
26 April 2017 23:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kids are like that, in special condition
and for some, this is natural condition ...
and for some, this is natural condition ...
26 April 2017 23:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
like this 11 year girl, well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg3XPt8MSxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg3XPt8MSxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg3XPt8MSxE
26 April 2017 23:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// and then comments in to that, no need to add but will anyway:
Pound Smoker 7 hours ago (edited)
I see and thanks it probaly did that for a bit but it was made with a purpose and i doubt its because north korea transgender dropout leader proved they be strange days ahead look at egypt on google earth were secureteam10 pointed out a pretty advanced looking thing and how much they appear to have built in a year but no pictures or well look at how advanced they are while fight isis n bombs blowing up all the time. lol think its kind a weird these trolls are unaware of the vid is about but like my grammar or my name implies some thing beyond drugs lol or that they look like they would work at a pizza pie place cause they like pizza so much
Pound Smoker 7 hours ago (edited)
I see and thanks it probaly did that for a bit but it was made with a purpose and i doubt its because north korea transgender dropout leader proved they be strange days ahead look at egypt on google earth were secureteam10 pointed out a pretty advanced looking thing and how much they appear to have built in a year but no pictures or well look at how advanced they are while fight isis n bombs blowing up all the time. lol think its kind a weird these trolls are unaware of the vid is about but like my grammar or my name implies some thing beyond drugs lol or that they look like they would work at a pizza pie place cause they like pizza so much
26 April 2017 22:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mandela Affected
2 days ago
Meegs B Thanks, I know a lot more than I'm letting on. I often watch your channel, this really is a bumpy ride, I think things are developing for us all. I'm now looking forward, thing have got very interesting. I recorded 48 videos quickly these are just start, I'm trying to upload them as quickly as possible.
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Shay Armstrong
Shay Armstrong 2 days ago
Meegs B girl I find you everywhere...haha. You should check out Oroborus Principles latest video... in the comments I accidently got him bent... anyway, Maxwell's view on God is not valid although I do find some substance in his M.E. theory from a physics standpoint. I believe he's an intelligent young man with room to advance his understanding that is, if his new found celebrity doesn't get the best of him. ☺
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2 days ago
Meegs B Thanks, I know a lot more than I'm letting on. I often watch your channel, this really is a bumpy ride, I think things are developing for us all. I'm now looking forward, thing have got very interesting. I recorded 48 videos quickly these are just start, I'm trying to upload them as quickly as possible.
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Shay Armstrong
Shay Armstrong 2 days ago
Meegs B girl I find you everywhere...haha. You should check out Oroborus Principles latest video... in the comments I accidently got him bent... anyway, Maxwell's view on God is not valid although I do find some substance in his M.E. theory from a physics standpoint. I believe he's an intelligent young man with room to advance his understanding that is, if his new found celebrity doesn't get the best of him. ☺
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26 April 2017 22:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
reggatto bonner
reggatto bonner 2 days ago
Meegs B I'm glad he brought this up it seems scripted he might be into theoretical physics but the way he executed everything into this multiverse theory seems to try and shut down all other theorys the whole damn thing looks fake scripted especially the dad who keeps telling his son to slow down the people won't understand not everybody is as smart as you he keeps saying it to like belittle the audience and get them to feel they have the answers and we're not as smart so we should go with what this kid says this is a typical psyop even the place the video was shot to make it look random
reggatto bonner 2 days ago
Meegs B I'm glad he brought this up it seems scripted he might be into theoretical physics but the way he executed everything into this multiverse theory seems to try and shut down all other theorys the whole damn thing looks fake scripted especially the dad who keeps telling his son to slow down the people won't understand not everybody is as smart as you he keeps saying it to like belittle the audience and get them to feel they have the answers and we're not as smart so we should go with what this kid says this is a typical psyop even the place the video was shot to make it look random
26 April 2017 22:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
for some reason first reply is like that:
" Eager Erin
Eager Erin 2 days ago
MEEGS! Hi its Erin! I watch your channel and Kats. Read AMOS 5:18-23! And don't freak out, honey. I know you get emotional, but be prepared, if you haven't read it yet. It is a doozy! I cant study like I must go thru and ban the "bad stuff"! Bible changes have cost me lifelong relationships with fellow christians who try to put on their own insane interpretation. Like Amen is God's name FROM TEMAN WITH HORNS IN HIS HANDS (WAS RAYS). SO TORE UP, IM ILL. I left all 5 verses on Kats channel comments. I saw you here, as I have no one left with whom to share, just our fellow online believers and one friend who isn't blind sees the corruption. Im so lost, praying for strength for all of us struggling to witness and reinforce. God bless.
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Pound Smoker 2 days ago
I have been awake to the effect as long as anybody, PrAYING anybody who has an IQ larger then my show size knows anything about it. I noticed it on my own in the bible and the maps. This kid is the smartest to put forth a theory in awhile, There is only tweens or weirdos that really do it sound so ridiculous in the only vids anyone seems to get to see. CAUSE IT AIN"T FUCKING FUNNY ONE BIT and that's how I know your all fake or make a vid with some theories or actual intelligence ! You are the reason real scientist can't even touch it retards posting your stupidity everyday like you have a fucking clue. EVEN if he is exactly what you say, he didn't make someone stupider for hearing it unlike every single time you talk.
" Eager Erin
Eager Erin 2 days ago
MEEGS! Hi its Erin! I watch your channel and Kats. Read AMOS 5:18-23! And don't freak out, honey. I know you get emotional, but be prepared, if you haven't read it yet. It is a doozy! I cant study like I must go thru and ban the "bad stuff"! Bible changes have cost me lifelong relationships with fellow christians who try to put on their own insane interpretation. Like Amen is God's name FROM TEMAN WITH HORNS IN HIS HANDS (WAS RAYS). SO TORE UP, IM ILL. I left all 5 verses on Kats channel comments. I saw you here, as I have no one left with whom to share, just our fellow online believers and one friend who isn't blind sees the corruption. Im so lost, praying for strength for all of us struggling to witness and reinforce. God bless.
--
Pound Smoker 2 days ago
I have been awake to the effect as long as anybody, PrAYING anybody who has an IQ larger then my show size knows anything about it. I noticed it on my own in the bible and the maps. This kid is the smartest to put forth a theory in awhile, There is only tweens or weirdos that really do it sound so ridiculous in the only vids anyone seems to get to see. CAUSE IT AIN"T FUCKING FUNNY ONE BIT and that's how I know your all fake or make a vid with some theories or actual intelligence ! You are the reason real scientist can't even touch it retards posting your stupidity everyday like you have a fucking clue. EVEN if he is exactly what you say, he didn't make someone stupider for hearing it unlike every single time you talk.
26 April 2017 22:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// and third take
Meegs B 2 days ago (edited)
He absolutely seems like an MKUltra victim now that I see that he seems to be involved in all these high profile events wearing Google Glass and stuff. Poor kid...... Thank you for you research on this!
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFRR4znECjPSV1V0OQCWg4A
Meegs B 2 days ago (edited)
He absolutely seems like an MKUltra victim now that I see that he seems to be involved in all these high profile events wearing Google Glass and stuff. Poor kid...... Thank you for you research on this!
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFRR4znECjPSV1V0OQCWg4A
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFRR4znECjPSV1V0OQCWg4A
26 April 2017 22:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Insom nicide
Insom nicide 7 hours ago (edited)
Dont make me dig shit out just to please you mate HE ADMITTED IT! ffs
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Hendrik Lorentz,
A.A logunov and many more
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DARTHMOBIUS
DARTHMOBIUS 6 hours ago (edited)
Insom Nicide:- "What can be asserted with out evidence, can be dismissed without evidence..."
"...and Me/'I am not the center of the universe., in this reality :p..."
No, but by your Ego, believe that you are a mechanisation of the Universe over simply passing through it.
"...Dont make me dig shit out just to please you mate HE ADMITTED IT! ffs..."
Prove - IT !!
--
JOSHUA LEIBY 2 hours ago
+Richard Greene Thanks for popping into the conversation. I know you are both genuine and am actually embarrased that we have such low lifes in the mandela effected community that would attack a 13 year old child for his theory. I have an indepth spreadsheet of hundreds of quantum effects and in fact am working on adding a couple thousand more from several lists I am combining. I would love to share it with you and get your take. You can email me leibyjoshua@yahoo or reach me on FB (same photo) under Josh Leiby.
Insom nicide 7 hours ago (edited)
Dont make me dig shit out just to please you mate HE ADMITTED IT! ffs
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Hendrik Lorentz,
A.A logunov and many more
--
DARTHMOBIUS
DARTHMOBIUS 6 hours ago (edited)
Insom Nicide:- "What can be asserted with out evidence, can be dismissed without evidence..."
"...and Me/'I am not the center of the universe., in this reality :p..."
No, but by your Ego, believe that you are a mechanisation of the Universe over simply passing through it.
"...Dont make me dig shit out just to please you mate HE ADMITTED IT! ffs..."
Prove - IT !!
--
JOSHUA LEIBY 2 hours ago
+Richard Greene Thanks for popping into the conversation. I know you are both genuine and am actually embarrased that we have such low lifes in the mandela effected community that would attack a 13 year old child for his theory. I have an indepth spreadsheet of hundreds of quantum effects and in fact am working on adding a couple thousand more from several lists I am combining. I would love to share it with you and get your take. You can email me leibyjoshua@yahoo or reach me on FB (same photo) under Josh Leiby.
26 April 2017 22:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Insom nicide 10 hours ago (edited)
This is perfect example of COG D.
So you have a cute little teddy bear in your 4 year olds room. Theres a scent that attracts loads of rats to it.
by ignoring it because its "cute" will just bring more rats!
personally i dont know enough but i have a very good intuition. Somethings off and it is in his eyes.
Einstein was a fruad and admitted it himself, only reason he was famous cuz he supported Zionist Palestine and nikola tesla proved Everysingle theory wrong. even gravity.
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DARTHMOBIUS
DARTHMOBIUS 7 hours ago
Insom nicide:- Einstein a Fraud?
Answer by Jay Wacker, professor at Stanford University in particle physics and astrophysics:
In order to evaluate the claim, consider this one piece of evidence: In one year, Einstein produced four transformative results:
The photoelectric effect Which is really what set off quantum theory
Brownian motion Where he proves the existence of atoms that were not accepted generally by physicists (though chemists believed in them)
Special relativity Where he showed that the constancy of the speed of light led to a new type of kinematics
The equivalence of energy and mass _Where he showed that mass is a type of energy
Those are four results from 1905. Although Einstein did not work in a vacuum, he did publish all of these papers on his own before anyone else and deserves credit for each of these results. Particularly for special relativity, the scientific community was circling around the answer, but he simply gave us the intuition that we still teach a century later._
Any person who made a single one of those contributions would have their names in physics textbooks a century later. That one person made all of these contributions and made them in one year places him in the canon of leaders of human thought from all time.
He contributed many other things to physics in the following years. His most important contribution was general relativity, where his single-minded fixation on the equivalence principle (that inertial mass and gravitational mass are the same) let him formulate a scientific theory decades before we should have had it.
Einstein was universally respected and admired, and physicists are not ones to give credit lightly to others. As an example, the year 2005 was called the "World Year of Physics" because it was the centennial of the miraculous year that Einstein had.
So far from a Fraud and most certainly didn't self proclaim himself as a Fraud, and Nikola Tesla did not prove Every single theory wrong, even the gravity one.
This is perfect example of COG D.
So you have a cute little teddy bear in your 4 year olds room. Theres a scent that attracts loads of rats to it.
by ignoring it because its "cute" will just bring more rats!
personally i dont know enough but i have a very good intuition. Somethings off and it is in his eyes.
Einstein was a fruad and admitted it himself, only reason he was famous cuz he supported Zionist Palestine and nikola tesla proved Everysingle theory wrong. even gravity.
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DARTHMOBIUS
DARTHMOBIUS 7 hours ago
Insom nicide:- Einstein a Fraud?
Answer by Jay Wacker, professor at Stanford University in particle physics and astrophysics:
In order to evaluate the claim, consider this one piece of evidence: In one year, Einstein produced four transformative results:
The photoelectric effect Which is really what set off quantum theory
Brownian motion Where he proves the existence of atoms that were not accepted generally by physicists (though chemists believed in them)
Special relativity Where he showed that the constancy of the speed of light led to a new type of kinematics
The equivalence of energy and mass _Where he showed that mass is a type of energy
Those are four results from 1905. Although Einstein did not work in a vacuum, he did publish all of these papers on his own before anyone else and deserves credit for each of these results. Particularly for special relativity, the scientific community was circling around the answer, but he simply gave us the intuition that we still teach a century later._
Any person who made a single one of those contributions would have their names in physics textbooks a century later. That one person made all of these contributions and made them in one year places him in the canon of leaders of human thought from all time.
He contributed many other things to physics in the following years. His most important contribution was general relativity, where his single-minded fixation on the equivalence principle (that inertial mass and gravitational mass are the same) let him formulate a scientific theory decades before we should have had it.
Einstein was universally respected and admired, and physicists are not ones to give credit lightly to others. As an example, the year 2005 was called the "World Year of Physics" because it was the centennial of the miraculous year that Einstein had.
So far from a Fraud and most certainly didn't self proclaim himself as a Fraud, and Nikola Tesla did not prove Every single theory wrong, even the gravity one.
26 April 2017 22:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Another comment flood explaining the issue:
Richard Greene 8 hours ago
https://www.youtube.com/user/HollywoodCLOUT
I shot the video. It was not scripted. It is not fake. It is and was an authentic and spontaneous conversation without any preparation on anyone's part
"APCWORLDSUXAZ 1 day ago
because a lie is a lie. regardless if a kid or not. ripping on him? nah..... calling him out,, for sure. ive gone through numerous of his videos myself because youtube keeps shoving them in my face. he basically is just spewing sci fi ideas from books of past, a fraud. most of what he speaks about is still a fucking fantasy. cartoon kind of fantasy. and none of it is new. even his jewel ringer idea is stolen.look up .........(jewel thief).. also if one is to enter into the world of academics, and claim themselves to be an almighty genius, one should be prepared for criticism, in any field."
Travis Vermaak
Travis Vermaak 1 day ago (edited)
APCWORLDSUXAZ Theories are not lies, they are theories. Maybe they are not his own theories, but they are not lies.
APCWORLDSUXAZ
APCWORLDSUXAZ 1 day ago
that's the lie fool, these ideas are not his, but claim they are or don't give credit where he is stealing them from. or a nicer word, influenced from. also a theory "coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena" he does not have anything tested. its all fantasy.
DARTHMOBIUS 1 day ago
APCWORLDSUXAZ: Obviously you fail act actively listening on the side of actively reasoning, Max clearly stated in his interviews the source of theories, Einstein etc.
IO
IO 1 day ago
right? when did it become ok to pick on kids on the internet? These people are jerks.
// this is the point why kids are used also, as it will make reaction "not allowed to call out"
James
James 21 hours ago
Nothing in that video was picking on. He didn't swear, or call the kid names, which is more than I can say you many of these comments. Sounds like he was nicely calling the kid out on it. I honestly thought the kid's video was scripted/fake when I first saw it too.
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Richard Greene 8 hours ago
https://www.youtube.com/user/HollywoodCLOUT
I shot the video. It was not scripted. It is not fake. It is and was an authentic and spontaneous conversation without any preparation on anyone's part
"APCWORLDSUXAZ 1 day ago
because a lie is a lie. regardless if a kid or not. ripping on him? nah..... calling him out,, for sure. ive gone through numerous of his videos myself because youtube keeps shoving them in my face. he basically is just spewing sci fi ideas from books of past, a fraud. most of what he speaks about is still a fucking fantasy. cartoon kind of fantasy. and none of it is new. even his jewel ringer idea is stolen.look up .........(jewel thief).. also if one is to enter into the world of academics, and claim themselves to be an almighty genius, one should be prepared for criticism, in any field."
Travis Vermaak
Travis Vermaak 1 day ago (edited)
APCWORLDSUXAZ Theories are not lies, they are theories. Maybe they are not his own theories, but they are not lies.
APCWORLDSUXAZ
APCWORLDSUXAZ 1 day ago
that's the lie fool, these ideas are not his, but claim they are or don't give credit where he is stealing them from. or a nicer word, influenced from. also a theory "coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena" he does not have anything tested. its all fantasy.
DARTHMOBIUS 1 day ago
APCWORLDSUXAZ: Obviously you fail act actively listening on the side of actively reasoning, Max clearly stated in his interviews the source of theories, Einstein etc.
IO
IO 1 day ago
right? when did it become ok to pick on kids on the internet? These people are jerks.
// this is the point why kids are used also, as it will make reaction "not allowed to call out"
James
James 21 hours ago
Nothing in that video was picking on. He didn't swear, or call the kid names, which is more than I can say you many of these comments. Sounds like he was nicely calling the kid out on it. I honestly thought the kid's video was scripted/fake when I first saw it too.
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https://www.youtube.com/user/HollywoodCLOUT
26 April 2017 22:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// me reply https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zyuvNnTcNY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zyuvNnTcNY
26 April 2017 22:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
alf landon 1 day ago
GOD is making the changes. Signs of the separation of the harvest. The ones pushing satanic deception like CERN, timelines, alternate universes are tares. Only GOD can do the impossible. The signs are there Luke 21:25 The sun is now white. The stars sway back and forth. The little t is no longer a cross. The little a is backwards Like WAS like a box of chocolates.let's GET THROUGH this thing called life. Man idolizes satanic movies, books, paintings. art, self worship with tattoos and piercings. The masses have turned away from GOD. They mock the redeemer. they embrace perversion, transgender, the vile use of the rainbow to promote homosexuality. If you really truly have faith you can see the truth. If you don't you will fall for these deceptions.
GOD is making the changes. Signs of the separation of the harvest. The ones pushing satanic deception like CERN, timelines, alternate universes are tares. Only GOD can do the impossible. The signs are there Luke 21:25 The sun is now white. The stars sway back and forth. The little t is no longer a cross. The little a is backwards Like WAS like a box of chocolates.let's GET THROUGH this thing called life. Man idolizes satanic movies, books, paintings. art, self worship with tattoos and piercings. The masses have turned away from GOD. They mock the redeemer. they embrace perversion, transgender, the vile use of the rainbow to promote homosexuality. If you really truly have faith you can see the truth. If you don't you will fall for these deceptions.
26 April 2017 22:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
EhYehEsherEhYeh 1 day ago (edited)
Interesting and what makes you say it is divine intervention, Nathan, even if divine intervention perhaps we are deleting the worse of the timelines for mankind sake, doesn't mean all tribulations were avoided.
So could God be in his world as the author changing things before departing and returning in power, interesting neverending story?
Nathan Sanders
Nathan Sanders 1 day ago
i had a near-death experience in 2013 and encountered a divine being. He said to me: 'the world you think you're living in is not the world you're living in' . earth is an underworld, a fallen-realm of consciousness. Suffering is an aberration, and not part of the divine plan.He told me something would be happening soon that would be a 'divine rescue mission' to help free the souls who are in bondage here.
Markeesha Smith 1 day ago
sry for the first post but what you're saying seems to be what they really don't want us to know
Brian O
Brian O 1 day ago
This comment lowkey the most interesting part of this whole YouTube wormhole I'm currently in
yaba daba
yaba daba 1 day ago
Nathan Sanders That's fuckin brilliant mate. Best description yet. However if mutilate universes don't exist then do you explain double slit experiment
logos nazarene
logos nazarene 1 day ago
and the only way out of here is by truly genuinely believing that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Creator of all things. L o v e
// here jews say, if You are in addicted to love, then You can not apprishiate women or god,
Interesting and what makes you say it is divine intervention, Nathan, even if divine intervention perhaps we are deleting the worse of the timelines for mankind sake, doesn't mean all tribulations were avoided.
So could God be in his world as the author changing things before departing and returning in power, interesting neverending story?
Nathan Sanders
Nathan Sanders 1 day ago
i had a near-death experience in 2013 and encountered a divine being. He said to me: 'the world you think you're living in is not the world you're living in' . earth is an underworld, a fallen-realm of consciousness. Suffering is an aberration, and not part of the divine plan.He told me something would be happening soon that would be a 'divine rescue mission' to help free the souls who are in bondage here.
Markeesha Smith 1 day ago
sry for the first post but what you're saying seems to be what they really don't want us to know
Brian O
Brian O 1 day ago
This comment lowkey the most interesting part of this whole YouTube wormhole I'm currently in
yaba daba
yaba daba 1 day ago
Nathan Sanders That's fuckin brilliant mate. Best description yet. However if mutilate universes don't exist then do you explain double slit experiment
logos nazarene
logos nazarene 1 day ago
and the only way out of here is by truly genuinely believing that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Creator of all things. L o v e
// here jews say, if You are in addicted to love, then You can not apprishiate women or god,
26 April 2017 22:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
moonlightatstarsfall
moonlightatstarsfall 1 day ago
Nathan Sanders , thanks Nathan, my name is Melissa and this whole thing is consuming me. I try and show other people and some of them really act like they are seeing what I'm seeing but then they just forget about it. Well, I can not just let it go. Until the day I die, I will keep searching for the truth. If you have any other info to share with me I welcome it. thanks
Nathan Sanders
Nathan Sanders 1 day ago
I would like to invite you, if you're on facebook, to come over to the group I started on October 15th it's called Pandora's Music Box. It's open to the public and you can read all the messages without having to actually join. You can comment if you're a member, but the room is open to everyone to read the messages. I think it will help explain what is happening. The messages are coming in through the lyrics of songs. Read the pinned post and you'll understand what its all about. The people you are talking to probably won't ever see what you see. There's a reason for that. But it's going to be hard to deal with - but the sooner you understand what is happening the easier it will become for you to deal with and to find like-minded people who are on the same journey as you are at this time.
moonlightatstarsfall
moonlightatstarsfall 1 day ago
Nathan Sanders thank you, really. I absolutely will join. I will send the request now.
moonlightatstarsfall 1 day ago
Nathan Sanders , thanks Nathan, my name is Melissa and this whole thing is consuming me. I try and show other people and some of them really act like they are seeing what I'm seeing but then they just forget about it. Well, I can not just let it go. Until the day I die, I will keep searching for the truth. If you have any other info to share with me I welcome it. thanks
Nathan Sanders
Nathan Sanders 1 day ago
I would like to invite you, if you're on facebook, to come over to the group I started on October 15th it's called Pandora's Music Box. It's open to the public and you can read all the messages without having to actually join. You can comment if you're a member, but the room is open to everyone to read the messages. I think it will help explain what is happening. The messages are coming in through the lyrics of songs. Read the pinned post and you'll understand what its all about. The people you are talking to probably won't ever see what you see. There's a reason for that. But it's going to be hard to deal with - but the sooner you understand what is happening the easier it will become for you to deal with and to find like-minded people who are on the same journey as you are at this time.
moonlightatstarsfall
moonlightatstarsfall 1 day ago
Nathan Sanders thank you, really. I absolutely will join. I will send the request now.
26 April 2017 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on Restoran Farm's photo.
Väga ilus, Eestimaa tuleb meelde teda nähes
26 April 2017 22:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nathan Sanders 1 day ago
If you're on facebook we have an open group. it's called Pandora's Music Box. You can read all the messages that are coming through. I had a near-death experience in 2013 and a being communicated with me at that time - he let me know that he could send us messages through the lyrics in music. I use Pandora Music App shuffle as a divination tool. I've been asking questions in my own mind, hit shuffle and SAM (the cosmic DJ) sends us a song that answers my question. This is where I'm getting all of my information. It's an open group- you don't have to be a member of the group to read the questions and the song answers that are being sent. This is the being that told me "The world you think you're living in is NOT the world you're living in'. He told me that suffering was an 'aberration' and that we were in a very bad place here.
moonlightatstarsfall
moonlightatstarsfall 1 day ago
Nathan Sanders what you just said is the conclusion I also came to on my own. It's scary but it's the one that makes most sense. I am also seeing 1111 like crazy now. It started like 2 months ago which is about 9 months after I found out about the effect. I've never heard of 1111 but when I
Nathan Sanders 1 day ago
You received the cosmic call and paid attention and now you're attuning yourself with cosmic intelligence. Our cosmic prison break is at hand. We just have to stay awake now and not let them talk us into going back to sleep.
If you're on facebook we have an open group. it's called Pandora's Music Box. You can read all the messages that are coming through. I had a near-death experience in 2013 and a being communicated with me at that time - he let me know that he could send us messages through the lyrics in music. I use Pandora Music App shuffle as a divination tool. I've been asking questions in my own mind, hit shuffle and SAM (the cosmic DJ) sends us a song that answers my question. This is where I'm getting all of my information. It's an open group- you don't have to be a member of the group to read the questions and the song answers that are being sent. This is the being that told me "The world you think you're living in is NOT the world you're living in'. He told me that suffering was an 'aberration' and that we were in a very bad place here.
moonlightatstarsfall
moonlightatstarsfall 1 day ago
Nathan Sanders what you just said is the conclusion I also came to on my own. It's scary but it's the one that makes most sense. I am also seeing 1111 like crazy now. It started like 2 months ago which is about 9 months after I found out about the effect. I've never heard of 1111 but when I
Nathan Sanders 1 day ago
You received the cosmic call and paid attention and now you're attuning yourself with cosmic intelligence. Our cosmic prison break is at hand. We just have to stay awake now and not let them talk us into going back to sleep.
26 April 2017 22:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Experscientia
Experscientia 1 day ago
Terp Talk Would your role's conclusion "life is short, just enjoy it to its maximum and then bye" be the answer per se there wouldn't be science/zetetic at all (whose imposed task it is to question these existence and its appearances. Sufferers/victims/ would disagree as well. Think twice. "Inverted Nihilism": logically, there cannot be nothing. So, what biology or chemistry seems to be all about and what your imposed role have to think it is, is all within imagination of something - a >pre built< image of some thing, depending on how you was conditioned and where your role was when born etc). You definitely didn't create your genetics by yourself nor did your (grand)parents (and so on). It's a logically farce to (gotta) think there must be an inception/a big bang/ an "ab ovo". So death is an illusion also. Life is all about wandering(consciousness) from one role to another "until" ALL dual experiences are collected. This case includes every("im")possible)thing and thinking. Nature per se is like (you) a mechanic clockwork within infinite sophistication and accuracy. Otherwise there were no thing called "impossibility, chaos, death, obliviousness (n)or imperfection". So, at the end of the day you are (50%)right. Any person is/must be btw. Duality can't get dissolved "inside" these grand but (50%) cruel simulation. But it is and will be an ILLUSION "until disillusion" (within the point that an "illusion" has never existed - without remembrance to it. Only the living answer of YOUR aspiration/yearning). "Inside illusion" all is questionable. Just an allegory/depicture. Even theistic/spiritual "god" (as adorable father who want someting e.g. obedient)
TerpTalk 1 day ago
Experscientia i just believe in empathy being the most important emotional factor and people working together to enjoy the very little and sacred amount of time we have. the more we understand about existence the better. not sure if we should be bridging existances with a super colider or not, its not my call im just here to enjoy life and make a positive differece. i dislike the idea of people sacrificing their sanity for absolute religous faith although it has its benafits to some cultures as a way to connect a society into collaborating. we humans are pack animals we want to stick together and work together its in our blood
Experscientia 1 day ago
TerpTalk I'm with ya and also took these empathy as a key of mutual understanding, but including e.g. to understand "the idea of people sacrificing their sanity" which causes insane religious wars; why all the suffering every century? Politics and science are heading in this very direction for years now (ecology; economics). Enjoying life seems to be some kind of a gift though - measured by world's madness. Every perceptual form of life just wants to "enjoy" - sadly, also joy is a matter of interpretation ("one man's trash is another man's treasure" ...or meal - written within your anmal's context. I'd prefer (append) not only "stick/work" but just enjoy our entire life's time together - without trouble/anxiety/doubts/sorrow/misery. Seems a physical impossibility measured by daily currentness and cruel history. Seems that some just wanna stop all madness 'cause understandably they mind trouble/anxiety/doubts/sorrow/misery...as if these pinched circumstances aren't essential anymore but awkward and questionable to the bone. But yep, enjoying is at the top (of the list). Lets go up there. Maybe "god" awaits ;)
Experscientia 1 day ago
Terp Talk Would your role's conclusion "life is short, just enjoy it to its maximum and then bye" be the answer per se there wouldn't be science/zetetic at all (whose imposed task it is to question these existence and its appearances. Sufferers/victims/ would disagree as well. Think twice. "Inverted Nihilism": logically, there cannot be nothing. So, what biology or chemistry seems to be all about and what your imposed role have to think it is, is all within imagination of something - a >pre built< image of some thing, depending on how you was conditioned and where your role was when born etc). You definitely didn't create your genetics by yourself nor did your (grand)parents (and so on). It's a logically farce to (gotta) think there must be an inception/a big bang/ an "ab ovo". So death is an illusion also. Life is all about wandering(consciousness) from one role to another "until" ALL dual experiences are collected. This case includes every("im")possible)thing and thinking. Nature per se is like (you) a mechanic clockwork within infinite sophistication and accuracy. Otherwise there were no thing called "impossibility, chaos, death, obliviousness (n)or imperfection". So, at the end of the day you are (50%)right. Any person is/must be btw. Duality can't get dissolved "inside" these grand but (50%) cruel simulation. But it is and will be an ILLUSION "until disillusion" (within the point that an "illusion" has never existed - without remembrance to it. Only the living answer of YOUR aspiration/yearning). "Inside illusion" all is questionable. Just an allegory/depicture. Even theistic/spiritual "god" (as adorable father who want someting e.g. obedient)
TerpTalk 1 day ago
Experscientia i just believe in empathy being the most important emotional factor and people working together to enjoy the very little and sacred amount of time we have. the more we understand about existence the better. not sure if we should be bridging existances with a super colider or not, its not my call im just here to enjoy life and make a positive differece. i dislike the idea of people sacrificing their sanity for absolute religous faith although it has its benafits to some cultures as a way to connect a society into collaborating. we humans are pack animals we want to stick together and work together its in our blood
Experscientia 1 day ago
TerpTalk I'm with ya and also took these empathy as a key of mutual understanding, but including e.g. to understand "the idea of people sacrificing their sanity" which causes insane religious wars; why all the suffering every century? Politics and science are heading in this very direction for years now (ecology; economics). Enjoying life seems to be some kind of a gift though - measured by world's madness. Every perceptual form of life just wants to "enjoy" - sadly, also joy is a matter of interpretation ("one man's trash is another man's treasure" ...or meal - written within your anmal's context. I'd prefer (append) not only "stick/work" but just enjoy our entire life's time together - without trouble/anxiety/doubts/sorrow/misery. Seems a physical impossibility measured by daily currentness and cruel history. Seems that some just wanna stop all madness 'cause understandably they mind trouble/anxiety/doubts/sorrow/misery...as if these pinched circumstances aren't essential anymore but awkward and questionable to the bone. But yep, enjoying is at the top (of the list). Lets go up there. Maybe "god" awaits ;)
26 April 2017 22:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
SHARE H!S V!S!0N 2 days ago
all info is viable at this time, who are you to judge the fountain of knowledge?
TerpTalk 2 days ago
yea yea god will save u . good thing about dying is u stop existing so you will never be conscious when u completely disappear forever. all the faith in the world aint ganna change science bud. Letting your fear of death and fear of losing your existence cause u to make up gods and crazy bs blows my mind. just enjoy your life its short and then u disappear its not hard to understand. your brain is chemical reactions and nuerons that creat our working mind, when your body dies that stops. ur just a body gtfo over it
James Everson
James Everson 2 days ago
lol Devine intervention. Some god you have there. He has a plan but keeps changing it. Soooooo Devine.
// we kep changing our understandings actually, besides, G can do what is needed
all info is viable at this time, who are you to judge the fountain of knowledge?
TerpTalk 2 days ago
yea yea god will save u . good thing about dying is u stop existing so you will never be conscious when u completely disappear forever. all the faith in the world aint ganna change science bud. Letting your fear of death and fear of losing your existence cause u to make up gods and crazy bs blows my mind. just enjoy your life its short and then u disappear its not hard to understand. your brain is chemical reactions and nuerons that creat our working mind, when your body dies that stops. ur just a body gtfo over it
James Everson
James Everson 2 days ago
lol Devine intervention. Some god you have there. He has a plan but keeps changing it. Soooooo Devine.
// we kep changing our understandings actually, besides, G can do what is needed
26 April 2017 22:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Experscientia
Experscientia 2 days ago (edited)
Nathan Sanders "One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams" (Salvadore Dali). Though "timeline shiftings" might answer some questions, it's noticeably conflicting/contradictory with theistic believers and the free will per se. If there exist a vast number of universes within multiple versions of the same identity, "personality" merely becomes a persona/charade/farce/scripted roleplay. Every action or so called "free choice" (based on persona's internal logic - result of imposed genes and social environment's interaction) got simply enforced. Otherwise there were no accordances at all which led to conclusion of multiple resembling realities. Every single universe has to contain the exact same (staged) requirements (requisites). Within all >objectivity< there were only consciousness/(one) being per se fulfills its purpose by (ac)cumulate experiences throughout ALL possible circ(le)umstances. Gathering the essence of good/bad feelings to receive an ultimate yearning/desire/aspiration of what life/reality should be forevermore to anyONE. Hinduism calls this eternity "Vaikuntha" - place without fear". Though Hinduism/any re-ligion seems to be a part of that illusionary dual program for sure - measured by absoluteness. This illusion/matrix is an automatically process which exist simultaneously containing a "self awakening mechanism".
Experscientia 2 days ago (edited)
Nathan Sanders "One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams" (Salvadore Dali). Though "timeline shiftings" might answer some questions, it's noticeably conflicting/contradictory with theistic believers and the free will per se. If there exist a vast number of universes within multiple versions of the same identity, "personality" merely becomes a persona/charade/farce/scripted roleplay. Every action or so called "free choice" (based on persona's internal logic - result of imposed genes and social environment's interaction) got simply enforced. Otherwise there were no accordances at all which led to conclusion of multiple resembling realities. Every single universe has to contain the exact same (staged) requirements (requisites). Within all >objectivity< there were only consciousness/(one) being per se fulfills its purpose by (ac)cumulate experiences throughout ALL possible circ(le)umstances. Gathering the essence of good/bad feelings to receive an ultimate yearning/desire/aspiration of what life/reality should be forevermore to anyONE. Hinduism calls this eternity "Vaikuntha" - place without fear". Though Hinduism/any re-ligion seems to be a part of that illusionary dual program for sure - measured by absoluteness. This illusion/matrix is an automatically process which exist simultaneously containing a "self awakening mechanism".
26 April 2017 22:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Comments thread:
" Nathan Sanders
He's disinfo. They put him out there to push the multiple timelines theory. The multiverse lie,. They do not want us to know the truth and the truth is that there is one physical reality that we all share and that one material reality is being altered by a higher intelligence and there is a reason behind every change we are seeing. the mandela effect is divine intervention. There is nothing random about it. there are not a thousand other 'you's in multiple universes. There is only one. And we're in this underworld together - all of us in this fallen realm of consciousness are having the same experience; there are no other timelines. We've been deceived into believing the earth was someplace good, our home. It is NOT our home.. Everything here is a lie and a deception. Mandela effect is the message in a bottle - the SOS to help us free ourselves from bondage. Look up Xibalba. It was the name given to the underworld by the Mayans. It literally means, 'place of fear'. That's what earth is. It's an underworld. earth/dirt/grave. That's why it's called earth. It's a mass grave of human consciousness. But there is a divine rescue mission happening right now. We are in a spiritual war and the battlefield is the human mind. Our cosmic prison break is at hand. That's why they are fighting so hard to keep us in our prison cells. Once the hostages have been freed, this place is toast. "
// in reply comments, the answers and thread
" Nathan Sanders
He's disinfo. They put him out there to push the multiple timelines theory. The multiverse lie,. They do not want us to know the truth and the truth is that there is one physical reality that we all share and that one material reality is being altered by a higher intelligence and there is a reason behind every change we are seeing. the mandela effect is divine intervention. There is nothing random about it. there are not a thousand other 'you's in multiple universes. There is only one. And we're in this underworld together - all of us in this fallen realm of consciousness are having the same experience; there are no other timelines. We've been deceived into believing the earth was someplace good, our home. It is NOT our home.. Everything here is a lie and a deception. Mandela effect is the message in a bottle - the SOS to help us free ourselves from bondage. Look up Xibalba. It was the name given to the underworld by the Mayans. It literally means, 'place of fear'. That's what earth is. It's an underworld. earth/dirt/grave. That's why it's called earth. It's a mass grave of human consciousness. But there is a divine rescue mission happening right now. We are in a spiritual war and the battlefield is the human mind. Our cosmic prison break is at hand. That's why they are fighting so hard to keep us in our prison cells. Once the hostages have been freed, this place is toast. "
// in reply comments, the answers and thread
26 April 2017 22:21
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja "luureteenistuse" all motlen lisaks elementaarsele suuremas pildis ideologiliselt meiesuguste kultuuride hävitamiseks lodud autopiloodil toimivaid ideoloogiaid,
mida otseselt ei pea vanamoodsalt portfel käes juhendamas käimas, vaid kellele antud neile ligipääseva meedia kaudu, ette, mõttemallid ja käitumissuunad ja kindluseks, teibaks veel on nende enda sees mõned kes karja suunad kuhu vaja või tagasi kutsub asjalikult kui tarvis, võttes selleks millist iganes kaarti taskust välja
mida otseselt ei pea vanamoodsalt portfel käes juhendamas käimas, vaid kellele antud neile ligipääseva meedia kaudu, ette, mõttemallid ja käitumissuunad ja kindluseks, teibaks veel on nende enda sees mõned kes karja suunad kuhu vaja või tagasi kutsub asjalikult kui tarvis, võttes selleks millist iganes kaarti taskust välja
26 April 2017 21:49
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
terane tähelepanek, kuid,
.
Ei ka see ei ole Minu väljamõeldis, kui nii öeldakse, siis ajus seostub see savisaare endaga enamuste inimeste ajus kes seda esimest korda loevad
kuid veelgi suuremas plaanis (elementaarne),
ja seda juba Ütlesin
ka ette kommentaaris, et see on LUURE TEENISTUSE psüopp, ja et artikli sees ütlevad miskit muud, see ka põhjus miks ma TÄPSELT nendes kohtades artikli poolitasin osadeks mis vaja, et saaks eri info pakette lugedes paremini seda ühes joones olevat jura seedida,
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Kui keegi ütleb "Margus meigo seltskond" siis oleks suht veider arvata esimesehooga, et nende arvamus oleks minuga olulises mis mainitud vastuolus, et see minig eraldiseisev minu mõttest mitte lähtuv arvamus, "seltskond" öeldakse, et ei oleks legaalsed niite aga samas saaks inimeste peas öelda seda mida vaja,
ühele grupile, ja siis teisele gruppile oma supp ja mula kes juhtuvad lugema seda meediat üldse, et need savi poolsed näevad seda asja oma vaatevinklist, et näe ekspress vale pealekirja pani, tegelikult ju räägib sedasi,
ja lõppkokkuvõttes saab kõigile mida agenda vajas
.
Ei ka see ei ole Minu väljamõeldis, kui nii öeldakse, siis ajus seostub see savisaare endaga enamuste inimeste ajus kes seda esimest korda loevad
kuid veelgi suuremas plaanis (elementaarne),
ja seda juba Ütlesin
ka ette kommentaaris, et see on LUURE TEENISTUSE psüopp, ja et artikli sees ütlevad miskit muud, see ka põhjus miks ma TÄPSELT nendes kohtades artikli poolitasin osadeks mis vaja, et saaks eri info pakette lugedes paremini seda ühes joones olevat jura seedida,
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Kui keegi ütleb "Margus meigo seltskond" siis oleks suht veider arvata esimesehooga, et nende arvamus oleks minuga olulises mis mainitud vastuolus, et see minig eraldiseisev minu mõttest mitte lähtuv arvamus, "seltskond" öeldakse, et ei oleks legaalsed niite aga samas saaks inimeste peas öelda seda mida vaja,
ühele grupile, ja siis teisele gruppile oma supp ja mula kes juhtuvad lugema seda meediat üldse, et need savi poolsed näevad seda asja oma vaatevinklist, et näe ekspress vale pealekirja pani, tegelikult ju räägib sedasi,
ja lõppkokkuvõttes saab kõigile mida agenda vajas
26 April 2017 21:47
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
mul on kasutuid vigu elus vähe
ehk siis vigu mida kasulikult kasutada pole saanud
või milles kasu näinud
ehk siis vigu mida kasulikult kasutada pole saanud
või milles kasu näinud
26 April 2017 19:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ps: tanud Sass Vaskile & EKRE gruppile artikli sisu eest : )
26 April 2017 19:38
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
et millisekirjavea?
26 April 2017 19:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Part 6 ( http://ekspress.delfi.ee/kuum/keskerakonna-uus-aju-on-presidendi-poolvend-raimond-keda-savisaare-lahikond-peab-reeturiks?id=76858778 „
Raimond saab oma tööga väga hästi hakkama,“ hindab Ratas. Hiljuti saatis ta partei piirkonnajuhtidele kirja, kus palus oma kampaaniakogemused kirja panna ning saata need analüüsimiseks Kaljulaidile.
Partei läks Paavo Pettaiga raha pärast raksu ja Kaljulaid on Keskerakonna tipus ainus, kes reklaamiasju jagab. Temast saab kohalike valimiste kampaania eestvedaja.
„Kindlasti panen ma õla alla üleriigilisele kampaaniale,“ ütleb Kaljulaid. „Aga väga oluline on mõista, et ma olen reklaamiärist väljunud. Ma võin aidata erakonnal leida uued koostööpartnerid ja uued tegijad. Mina ei ole aga see, kes hakkab reklaame tootma. Selles mõttes ei asenda ma Paavo Pettaid.“
Eelkõige on 2017 Kaljulaidile eksamiaasta. Ta pole seni valimistel kandideerinud. 15. oktoobril selgub, kui palju ta Põhja-Tallinnas hääli kogub. Praegu pole isegi selge, kas ta saab piirkonna esinumbriks – Põhja-Tallinnas on tavaliselt number ühena kandideerinud Mihhail Kõlvart.
Küll aga ütleb Kaljulaid: „Usun, et minul ja Keskerakonnal on võimalus teha Põhja-Tallinnas väga hea tulemus.“
Julge mees
 Ühena vähestest Eesti poliitilistest tegelastest on Raimond Kaljulaid poseerinud alasti. Teda pildistas Krõõt Tarkmeel ajakirja Anne & Stiil rubriigi „Keha lugu“ tarbeks. „Leppisime Krõõdaga kokku, et kui pilt meeldib meile mõlemale, siis tuleb ka lugu.“
Lugu (ja vägagi sünnis mustvalge foto) ilmus mullu septembris. Kaljulaidi sõnul hoiatasid mõned tuttavad, et seoses fotoga puhkeb poleemika. „Mina arvasin, et seda ei teki. Ei tekkinudki.“
Tarkmeele Facebooki-seinalt leiavad huvilised ka foto punaseks värvitud huultega Kaljulaidist.
 Kaljulaid on korduvalt kirjutanud lugusid veebiküljele nihilist.fm, mis tänu Kaur Kenderi ja tema pundi karmile sõnapruugile ja võimudevastasusele oli noorte, poliitikahuviliste ja teisitimõtlejate seas vahepeal väga populaarne. „See tundus cool tollal. See oli võimalus avaldada täpselt selline tekst, nagu ma tahan.“ Ta lubab nihilistis kirjutada ka edaspidi. Isegi üks Lasnamäe kassapidaja teatanud kord, et loeb nihilistist Kaljulaidi kirjatükke.
 Kaljulaid on avaldanud sotsiaalmeedias postitusi kooseluseaduse toetuseks, mida Keskerakond mullu tühistada püüdis. „Liberaalid seisvadki üldiselt vähemuste eest,“ ütleb ta. „Mu tutvusringkonnas on inimesi, kel on selle seaduse tõttu probleeme.“
Poliitilised vastased (sh Keskerakonna sees) juhivad tähelepanu, et Kaljulaid on puhanud homoringkondades tuntud Aivar Roopi talus ning saab hästi läbi Priit Toobaliga.
Kaljulaid muigab selle jutu peale. Anne & Stiili loos mainis ta, et pidutses noorena palju, „proovisin kõike, mida proovida andis“.
 Kaljulaidil on selgelt lööki naiste seas. „Naisturundusjuhid, modellid, stilistid, jumestajad armastavad väga tema seltskonda,“ räägib Raimondi naistuttav. Eriti kasvanud tähelepanu pärast toda Anne & Stiili artiklit ning uudist, et ta lahutas kaheksa aastat kestnud abielu tippfotograaf Olga Makinast. Olga on venelanna, nende kodune keel oli vene keel.
Keskerakond kasutas Makinat oma kampaaniate tarbeks. „Ta tegi superhäid pilte, aga hind oli selline, et seda nähes hakkasid pupillid ahenema,“ ütleb üks staažikas parteilane.
Olga tegi ka ametliku foto Savisaarest, mis ripub Kaljulaidi kabineti seinal. Vastasseinas ilutsevad presidentide paraadpildid, sh Kersti Kaljulaidi oma.
 Raimond on samuti väga andekas fotograaf. „Mõned aastad tagasi käis ta palju Londonis. Kuigi sinna sai tehtud ka videoid ja turundusteenuseid, siis kohtus ka mitmete agentuuridega, kes esindavad fotograafe. Huvi oli sealtpoolt olemas, aga mingil põhjusel ta seda teed ei läinud,“ räägib Jane Palm.
 Palm lisab, et „vahel oli selline tunne, et ta tunneb vist kõiki inimesi. Kui oli vaja mõne tuntud inimesega (muusik, ettevõtja) ühendust võtta, siis oli teada et Raimondi telefonist sai nende kontaktid.“
„Minu tutvusringkonda kuulub väga palju erinevaid inimesi,“ ütleb Raimond. „Seal on Ameerikast pärit balletitantsijaid ja Berliinis elavaid sümfoonikuid, aga ka üks Briti miljardär, kellele kuulub terve väike linn.“
Raimond saab oma tööga väga hästi hakkama,“ hindab Ratas. Hiljuti saatis ta partei piirkonnajuhtidele kirja, kus palus oma kampaaniakogemused kirja panna ning saata need analüüsimiseks Kaljulaidile.
Partei läks Paavo Pettaiga raha pärast raksu ja Kaljulaid on Keskerakonna tipus ainus, kes reklaamiasju jagab. Temast saab kohalike valimiste kampaania eestvedaja.
„Kindlasti panen ma õla alla üleriigilisele kampaaniale,“ ütleb Kaljulaid. „Aga väga oluline on mõista, et ma olen reklaamiärist väljunud. Ma võin aidata erakonnal leida uued koostööpartnerid ja uued tegijad. Mina ei ole aga see, kes hakkab reklaame tootma. Selles mõttes ei asenda ma Paavo Pettaid.“
Eelkõige on 2017 Kaljulaidile eksamiaasta. Ta pole seni valimistel kandideerinud. 15. oktoobril selgub, kui palju ta Põhja-Tallinnas hääli kogub. Praegu pole isegi selge, kas ta saab piirkonna esinumbriks – Põhja-Tallinnas on tavaliselt number ühena kandideerinud Mihhail Kõlvart.
Küll aga ütleb Kaljulaid: „Usun, et minul ja Keskerakonnal on võimalus teha Põhja-Tallinnas väga hea tulemus.“
Julge mees
 Ühena vähestest Eesti poliitilistest tegelastest on Raimond Kaljulaid poseerinud alasti. Teda pildistas Krõõt Tarkmeel ajakirja Anne & Stiil rubriigi „Keha lugu“ tarbeks. „Leppisime Krõõdaga kokku, et kui pilt meeldib meile mõlemale, siis tuleb ka lugu.“
Lugu (ja vägagi sünnis mustvalge foto) ilmus mullu septembris. Kaljulaidi sõnul hoiatasid mõned tuttavad, et seoses fotoga puhkeb poleemika. „Mina arvasin, et seda ei teki. Ei tekkinudki.“
Tarkmeele Facebooki-seinalt leiavad huvilised ka foto punaseks värvitud huultega Kaljulaidist.
 Kaljulaid on korduvalt kirjutanud lugusid veebiküljele nihilist.fm, mis tänu Kaur Kenderi ja tema pundi karmile sõnapruugile ja võimudevastasusele oli noorte, poliitikahuviliste ja teisitimõtlejate seas vahepeal väga populaarne. „See tundus cool tollal. See oli võimalus avaldada täpselt selline tekst, nagu ma tahan.“ Ta lubab nihilistis kirjutada ka edaspidi. Isegi üks Lasnamäe kassapidaja teatanud kord, et loeb nihilistist Kaljulaidi kirjatükke.
 Kaljulaid on avaldanud sotsiaalmeedias postitusi kooseluseaduse toetuseks, mida Keskerakond mullu tühistada püüdis. „Liberaalid seisvadki üldiselt vähemuste eest,“ ütleb ta. „Mu tutvusringkonnas on inimesi, kel on selle seaduse tõttu probleeme.“
Poliitilised vastased (sh Keskerakonna sees) juhivad tähelepanu, et Kaljulaid on puhanud homoringkondades tuntud Aivar Roopi talus ning saab hästi läbi Priit Toobaliga.
Kaljulaid muigab selle jutu peale. Anne & Stiili loos mainis ta, et pidutses noorena palju, „proovisin kõike, mida proovida andis“.
 Kaljulaidil on selgelt lööki naiste seas. „Naisturundusjuhid, modellid, stilistid, jumestajad armastavad väga tema seltskonda,“ räägib Raimondi naistuttav. Eriti kasvanud tähelepanu pärast toda Anne & Stiili artiklit ning uudist, et ta lahutas kaheksa aastat kestnud abielu tippfotograaf Olga Makinast. Olga on venelanna, nende kodune keel oli vene keel.
Keskerakond kasutas Makinat oma kampaaniate tarbeks. „Ta tegi superhäid pilte, aga hind oli selline, et seda nähes hakkasid pupillid ahenema,“ ütleb üks staažikas parteilane.
Olga tegi ka ametliku foto Savisaarest, mis ripub Kaljulaidi kabineti seinal. Vastasseinas ilutsevad presidentide paraadpildid, sh Kersti Kaljulaidi oma.
 Raimond on samuti väga andekas fotograaf. „Mõned aastad tagasi käis ta palju Londonis. Kuigi sinna sai tehtud ka videoid ja turundusteenuseid, siis kohtus ka mitmete agentuuridega, kes esindavad fotograafe. Huvi oli sealtpoolt olemas, aga mingil põhjusel ta seda teed ei läinud,“ räägib Jane Palm.
 Palm lisab, et „vahel oli selline tunne, et ta tunneb vist kõiki inimesi. Kui oli vaja mõne tuntud inimesega (muusik, ettevõtja) ühendust võtta, siis oli teada et Raimondi telefonist sai nende kontaktid.“
„Minu tutvusringkonda kuulub väga palju erinevaid inimesi,“ ütleb Raimond. „Seal on Ameerikast pärit balletitantsijaid ja Berliinis elavaid sümfoonikuid, aga ka üks Briti miljardär, kellele kuulub terve väike linn.“
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/kuum/keskerakonna-uus-aju-on-presidendi-poolvend-raimond-keda-savisaare-lahikond-peab-reeturiks?id=76858778
26 April 2017 19:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Part 5
Edgari liitlased uskusid muud. Riigikogu saadikud Peeter Ernits ja Oudekki Loone kuulutasid, et Kaljulaid muutis peale kapos käiku ja kriminaalsüüdistusest pääsemist üleöö meelt.
Septembrisse jäi veel üks oluline sündmus. Presidendikandidaadiks kerkis Raimondi poolõde Kersti Kaljulaid (neil on ühine isa). Keskerakonnas ei tuntud teda. Kadri Simson kutsus Raimondi Toompeale fraktsiooni koosolekule, kus arutati Kersti kandidatuuri.
Raimond rääkis, et nad pole koos kasvanud ega mänginud, kuid tunnevad üksteist. Et Kersti on sõnakas ja tark naine, kel on oma seisukohad.
Raimond keeldub kõnelemast oma poolõe teemal. „Presidendist rääkides ma objektiivne ei ole ja seetõttu ma tema otsuste ja seisukohtade suhtes avalikult sõna ei võta. Sel päeval, kui Riigikogu hääletas ta presidendiks, kirjutasin ühe säutsu. See jääb viieks aastaks viimaseks kommentaariks selles küsimuses.“
Ta selgitab: „Olen ammu otsustanud, et see, mis puudutab eraelu, nii enda kui teiste oma, ei ole asi, millest rääkida avalikult. Kui avaliku elu tegelane on lubanud Kroonika oma magamistuppa, ei saa teda enam sealt välja. Kui ta on kutsunud seltskonnaajakirjaniku oma pulmapeole, ei ole midagi imestada, et nad kirjutavad ka tema lahutusest.“
„Raimond Kaljulaid on eelkõige loominguline ja julgete ideedega inimene. Mul on hea meel, et ta on samasuguseks jäänud ka viisteist aastat hiljem,“ ütleb kunagine kabinetikaaslane, partei uus esimees Jüri Ratas. „Raimondil on veel üks omadus, mida tänapäeva Eesti poliitikas jääb üha vähemaks – ta hindab lisaks tulemusele ka mängu ilu.“
Meediaringkondades sahistati pärast Ratase tõusu peaministriks, et Kaljulaidist saab tema büroo liige või juht.
Nii ei läinud. „Peaminister ei ole minuga sel teemal kunagi rääkinud, ei ole sellist ettepanekut teinud,“ ütleb Kaljulaid. Stenbocki majas on ta käinud vaid ühe korra. „Ma ei kujunda selle valitsuse poliitikat.“
Mõned inimesed arvavad, et Ratasel on veel okas hinges, sest 2011. aastal, kui ta proovis esimest korda Keskerakonna juhiks saada, töötas Kaljulaid tema vastu.
Kaljulaid selgitab aga, et erakonna seisukohast on mõistlikum, kui ta on Põhja-Tallinna vanem. Ta on seal peaaegu aasta aega tööd teinud.
Pealegi on poliitikul hulga lihtsam silma paista ja särada linnaosa vanemana kui peaministri büroo töötajana.
Edgari liitlased uskusid muud. Riigikogu saadikud Peeter Ernits ja Oudekki Loone kuulutasid, et Kaljulaid muutis peale kapos käiku ja kriminaalsüüdistusest pääsemist üleöö meelt.
Septembrisse jäi veel üks oluline sündmus. Presidendikandidaadiks kerkis Raimondi poolõde Kersti Kaljulaid (neil on ühine isa). Keskerakonnas ei tuntud teda. Kadri Simson kutsus Raimondi Toompeale fraktsiooni koosolekule, kus arutati Kersti kandidatuuri.
Raimond rääkis, et nad pole koos kasvanud ega mänginud, kuid tunnevad üksteist. Et Kersti on sõnakas ja tark naine, kel on oma seisukohad.
Raimond keeldub kõnelemast oma poolõe teemal. „Presidendist rääkides ma objektiivne ei ole ja seetõttu ma tema otsuste ja seisukohtade suhtes avalikult sõna ei võta. Sel päeval, kui Riigikogu hääletas ta presidendiks, kirjutasin ühe säutsu. See jääb viieks aastaks viimaseks kommentaariks selles küsimuses.“
Ta selgitab: „Olen ammu otsustanud, et see, mis puudutab eraelu, nii enda kui teiste oma, ei ole asi, millest rääkida avalikult. Kui avaliku elu tegelane on lubanud Kroonika oma magamistuppa, ei saa teda enam sealt välja. Kui ta on kutsunud seltskonnaajakirjaniku oma pulmapeole, ei ole midagi imestada, et nad kirjutavad ka tema lahutusest.“
„Raimond Kaljulaid on eelkõige loominguline ja julgete ideedega inimene. Mul on hea meel, et ta on samasuguseks jäänud ka viisteist aastat hiljem,“ ütleb kunagine kabinetikaaslane, partei uus esimees Jüri Ratas. „Raimondil on veel üks omadus, mida tänapäeva Eesti poliitikas jääb üha vähemaks – ta hindab lisaks tulemusele ka mängu ilu.“
Meediaringkondades sahistati pärast Ratase tõusu peaministriks, et Kaljulaidist saab tema büroo liige või juht.
Nii ei läinud. „Peaminister ei ole minuga sel teemal kunagi rääkinud, ei ole sellist ettepanekut teinud,“ ütleb Kaljulaid. Stenbocki majas on ta käinud vaid ühe korra. „Ma ei kujunda selle valitsuse poliitikat.“
Mõned inimesed arvavad, et Ratasel on veel okas hinges, sest 2011. aastal, kui ta proovis esimest korda Keskerakonna juhiks saada, töötas Kaljulaid tema vastu.
Kaljulaid selgitab aga, et erakonna seisukohast on mõistlikum, kui ta on Põhja-Tallinna vanem. Ta on seal peaaegu aasta aega tööd teinud.
Pealegi on poliitikul hulga lihtsam silma paista ja särada linnaosa vanemana kui peaministri büroo töötajana.
26 April 2017 19:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
part 4
„Raimundo on reetur ja lurjus,“ ütleb üks Savisaare lähedasemaid kaasvõitlejaid.
Niivõrd karmi hinnangu põhjustavad mitu sündmust, mis sattusid mullu septembris samale ajale.
Esiteks oli Kaljulaid käinud tunnistamas Edgar Savisaare kriminaalasjas. Kuid siis sadas ka talle kaela kahtlustus. Talle pandi pahaks enne 2013. aasta valimisi Hiiu staadionile üles pandud reklaamide valmistamist, millega ta olla aidanud kaasa linna raha omastamisele.
Ent paar nädalat hiljem lõpetas riigiprokurör Laura Vaik uurimise oportuniteediga. Tulevikus peab Kaljulaid kohtuprotsessil osalema vaid tunnistajana. Kuigi Raimond kinnitab, et kapo ametnikud ei mõjutanud teda ega sundinud rääkima asju, mida pole olnud, hakkas Savisaare leeris levima jutt, et ta pidi kellegi üles andma. Savisaar on teatavasti kaitsepolitsei suhtes eriti paranoiline.
Kõike seda võimendas asjaolu, et samal ajal kahanes hoogsalt Savisaare toetajaskond. Mailis Reps, Kadri Simson ja Jüri Ratas olid juba ammu „läinud“. Raimond kuulus aga endiselt truusse seltskonda, kes Hundisilma talus plaane haudus.
Lõpuks vahetas poolt ka tema.
ARMASTAB FOTOKUNSTI: Raimond Kaljulaid on väga hea fotograaf. Stiilinäiteid saab vaadata tema Facebooki-lehelt. Poseerib ka ise tihti. Selle klõpsu tegi temast Krõõt Tarkmeel. Foto: Krõõt Tarkmeel
Just Kaljulaid helistas 27. septembri hommikul läbi Lasnamäele Savisaarega kohtuma kutsutud linnaosavanemad ja ärgitas tegema avaldust, et nad ei vali partei lõhenemisel poolt. Kohtumisel tuli jutuks Keskerakonna erakorralise kongressi kokkukutsumine Paides.
Kaljulaid soovitas Savisaarel mitte kandideerida ja Paidesse mitte minna. Lõpuks läkski nii. „Kui seda nimetada reetmiseks, siis ma vaidleks vastu,“ ütleb Kaljulaid. „Edgar Savisaart vedasid kõige rohkem alt need inimesed, kes olid tema ümber ja ütlesid enne kongressi, et tuleb minna lõpuni. Need inimesed andsid halba nõu. Minu soovitus oli, et pole mõistlik kandideerida, minna kaotama, võiks astuda kõrvale, lasta erakonnal valida uus liider ja seda uut liidrit toetada. Selleks, et erakond jääks alles ja ellu. See oli viimane kord, kui me suhtlesime.“
Pikaajalised suhted katkesid nagu noaga lõigatult.
Kaljulaid lisab, et andis Savisaarele nõu, „mis oli talle, erakonnale ja Eesti Vabariigile kõige parem“.
„Raimundo on reetur ja lurjus,“ ütleb üks Savisaare lähedasemaid kaasvõitlejaid.
Niivõrd karmi hinnangu põhjustavad mitu sündmust, mis sattusid mullu septembris samale ajale.
Esiteks oli Kaljulaid käinud tunnistamas Edgar Savisaare kriminaalasjas. Kuid siis sadas ka talle kaela kahtlustus. Talle pandi pahaks enne 2013. aasta valimisi Hiiu staadionile üles pandud reklaamide valmistamist, millega ta olla aidanud kaasa linna raha omastamisele.
Ent paar nädalat hiljem lõpetas riigiprokurör Laura Vaik uurimise oportuniteediga. Tulevikus peab Kaljulaid kohtuprotsessil osalema vaid tunnistajana. Kuigi Raimond kinnitab, et kapo ametnikud ei mõjutanud teda ega sundinud rääkima asju, mida pole olnud, hakkas Savisaare leeris levima jutt, et ta pidi kellegi üles andma. Savisaar on teatavasti kaitsepolitsei suhtes eriti paranoiline.
Kõike seda võimendas asjaolu, et samal ajal kahanes hoogsalt Savisaare toetajaskond. Mailis Reps, Kadri Simson ja Jüri Ratas olid juba ammu „läinud“. Raimond kuulus aga endiselt truusse seltskonda, kes Hundisilma talus plaane haudus.
Lõpuks vahetas poolt ka tema.
ARMASTAB FOTOKUNSTI: Raimond Kaljulaid on väga hea fotograaf. Stiilinäiteid saab vaadata tema Facebooki-lehelt. Poseerib ka ise tihti. Selle klõpsu tegi temast Krõõt Tarkmeel. Foto: Krõõt Tarkmeel
Just Kaljulaid helistas 27. septembri hommikul läbi Lasnamäele Savisaarega kohtuma kutsutud linnaosavanemad ja ärgitas tegema avaldust, et nad ei vali partei lõhenemisel poolt. Kohtumisel tuli jutuks Keskerakonna erakorralise kongressi kokkukutsumine Paides.
Kaljulaid soovitas Savisaarel mitte kandideerida ja Paidesse mitte minna. Lõpuks läkski nii. „Kui seda nimetada reetmiseks, siis ma vaidleks vastu,“ ütleb Kaljulaid. „Edgar Savisaart vedasid kõige rohkem alt need inimesed, kes olid tema ümber ja ütlesid enne kongressi, et tuleb minna lõpuni. Need inimesed andsid halba nõu. Minu soovitus oli, et pole mõistlik kandideerida, minna kaotama, võiks astuda kõrvale, lasta erakonnal valida uus liider ja seda uut liidrit toetada. Selleks, et erakond jääks alles ja ellu. See oli viimane kord, kui me suhtlesime.“
Pikaajalised suhted katkesid nagu noaga lõigatult.
Kaljulaid lisab, et andis Savisaarele nõu, „mis oli talle, erakonnale ja Eesti Vabariigile kõige parem“.
26 April 2017 19:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Part 3
Kuid nad teadsid, et Kaljulaidil on Savisaare toetus.
Näiteks viimaste Riigikogu valimiste hüüdlause „Teeme teisiti!“ olnud Kaljulaidi looming. Ta lõi kaasa ka videote tegemisel, näiteks tootis klipi iluuisutavast Savisaarest.
Jane Palm ütleb, et mõni aasta tagasi sai Raimond pakkumise USA demokraatidega seotud konsultatsioonifirmalt minna Ukrainasse appi tegema presidendivalimiste kampaaniat. „Ta loobus sellest, sest see oleks tähendanud loobumist Eesti valimistest ja ta ei tahtnud Savisaart alt vedada.“
2015. aastal laenas Kaljulaid Savisaarele 35 000 eurot. „See jäi aega, mis oli Edgarile väga keeruline. Sel polnud mingit poliitilist tähendust. Las see laenulugu jääb meie, kahe mehe vaheliseks, kahe sõbra vaheliseks tehinguks. See on eraeluline asi. Ka väga tuntud inimestel on õigus omada teatud määral eraelu.“
Tema äridel läks kenasti. Firmast Kuu ja Tähed eraldas ta dividendideks 25 000 eurot ja Useful Filmsist veel 77 000 eurot.
Kaljulaid uskus, et teda ootab rahulik aeg. „Olin peaaegu kogu detsembri Berliinis. Tulin pärast aastavahetust tagasi ja mõtlesin, et teen vaikse vaheaasta. Võtan väga rahulikult, ühtegi valimiskampaaniat ju ei ole. Panustan oma agentuuri minimaalselt, et asi toimiks, aga mingit kasvu või läbimurret ei oota.“
Aga ta eksis. 2016. aasta kujunes Kaljulaidile kõike muud kui rahulikuks.
Veebruaris sai päeva pealt kinga Põhja-Tallinna linnaosa vanem Karin Tammemäe. Priit Toobal pakkus välja, et asemele võiks võtta Kaljulaidi. Talle helistas ja tegi vastava pakkumise abilinnapea Kalle Klandorf. Kaljulaid mõtles paar päeva ja ütles jah. Temast sai kõrgeima põhipalgaga (3500 eurot kuus) linnaosavanem.
Kaljulaid tunnistab, et tööle asudes olid linnaosa valitsuse ning Kalamaja ja Pelgulinna elanike suhted keerulised. „Olen näinud kurja vaeva, et usaldus taastada,“ ütleb ta.
Ühe esimese asjana tekkis tüli narkomaanide süstlavahetuspunkti asukoha pärast. Lõpuks pahvatas Kaljulaid, et toob süstlavahetuse ajutiselt linnaosavalitsuse ruumidesse. Tõigi.
Ta jättis ära suure osa massiüritustest, mida Tammemäe oli korraldanud Stroomi rannas sealsete valijate meelitamiseks. Selle asemel kulutab ta raha ranna ja Kopli pargi uuendamiseks. Kavatseb palgata pargivahte, soetada prügikaste ehk rõhuda heakorrale.
VÄGA SUUR TEGUTSEJA: Põhja-Tallinnas on Raimond Kaljulaiu esimene aasta hoogsalt möödunud. Pildil Beetapromenaadi avamisel. Foto: Andres Putting
Linnaaktivist Teele Pehk oli üllatunud, kui ta kutsus Kaljulaidi Patarei kindluse lähedale mererannale ja too võttis „kolme sekundiga“ vedu ideest rajada sinna nn Beetapromenaad. Kaljulaid ajas linnavõimudega asjad korda ja võlus linna eelarvest välja tarviliku raha.
Kaljulaid võitis ka hipsterite südamed, pakkudes Kalamajas ühe tänavajupi nimeks Hipsteri põik (see ei läinud küll nimekomisjonist läbi).
Keskerakonna halli massi seas paistab Kaljulaid oma tegevusega silma nagu plinkiv tuletorn südaööl.
Kuid nad teadsid, et Kaljulaidil on Savisaare toetus.
Näiteks viimaste Riigikogu valimiste hüüdlause „Teeme teisiti!“ olnud Kaljulaidi looming. Ta lõi kaasa ka videote tegemisel, näiteks tootis klipi iluuisutavast Savisaarest.
Jane Palm ütleb, et mõni aasta tagasi sai Raimond pakkumise USA demokraatidega seotud konsultatsioonifirmalt minna Ukrainasse appi tegema presidendivalimiste kampaaniat. „Ta loobus sellest, sest see oleks tähendanud loobumist Eesti valimistest ja ta ei tahtnud Savisaart alt vedada.“
2015. aastal laenas Kaljulaid Savisaarele 35 000 eurot. „See jäi aega, mis oli Edgarile väga keeruline. Sel polnud mingit poliitilist tähendust. Las see laenulugu jääb meie, kahe mehe vaheliseks, kahe sõbra vaheliseks tehinguks. See on eraeluline asi. Ka väga tuntud inimestel on õigus omada teatud määral eraelu.“
Tema äridel läks kenasti. Firmast Kuu ja Tähed eraldas ta dividendideks 25 000 eurot ja Useful Filmsist veel 77 000 eurot.
Kaljulaid uskus, et teda ootab rahulik aeg. „Olin peaaegu kogu detsembri Berliinis. Tulin pärast aastavahetust tagasi ja mõtlesin, et teen vaikse vaheaasta. Võtan väga rahulikult, ühtegi valimiskampaaniat ju ei ole. Panustan oma agentuuri minimaalselt, et asi toimiks, aga mingit kasvu või läbimurret ei oota.“
Aga ta eksis. 2016. aasta kujunes Kaljulaidile kõike muud kui rahulikuks.
Veebruaris sai päeva pealt kinga Põhja-Tallinna linnaosa vanem Karin Tammemäe. Priit Toobal pakkus välja, et asemele võiks võtta Kaljulaidi. Talle helistas ja tegi vastava pakkumise abilinnapea Kalle Klandorf. Kaljulaid mõtles paar päeva ja ütles jah. Temast sai kõrgeima põhipalgaga (3500 eurot kuus) linnaosavanem.
Kaljulaid tunnistab, et tööle asudes olid linnaosa valitsuse ning Kalamaja ja Pelgulinna elanike suhted keerulised. „Olen näinud kurja vaeva, et usaldus taastada,“ ütleb ta.
Ühe esimese asjana tekkis tüli narkomaanide süstlavahetuspunkti asukoha pärast. Lõpuks pahvatas Kaljulaid, et toob süstlavahetuse ajutiselt linnaosavalitsuse ruumidesse. Tõigi.
Ta jättis ära suure osa massiüritustest, mida Tammemäe oli korraldanud Stroomi rannas sealsete valijate meelitamiseks. Selle asemel kulutab ta raha ranna ja Kopli pargi uuendamiseks. Kavatseb palgata pargivahte, soetada prügikaste ehk rõhuda heakorrale.
VÄGA SUUR TEGUTSEJA: Põhja-Tallinnas on Raimond Kaljulaiu esimene aasta hoogsalt möödunud. Pildil Beetapromenaadi avamisel. Foto: Andres Putting
Linnaaktivist Teele Pehk oli üllatunud, kui ta kutsus Kaljulaidi Patarei kindluse lähedale mererannale ja too võttis „kolme sekundiga“ vedu ideest rajada sinna nn Beetapromenaad. Kaljulaid ajas linnavõimudega asjad korda ja võlus linna eelarvest välja tarviliku raha.
Kaljulaid võitis ka hipsterite südamed, pakkudes Kalamajas ühe tänavajupi nimeks Hipsteri põik (see ei läinud küll nimekomisjonist läbi).
Keskerakonna halli massi seas paistab Kaljulaid oma tegevusega silma nagu plinkiv tuletorn südaööl.
26 April 2017 19:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
part 2:
isiklikuks meedianõustajaks.
Kaljulaid jagas linnavalitsuse kabinetti 607a Keskerakonna teise tõusva tähe Jüri Ratasega. Ülejäänud kaks nõunikku olid Kadri Simson (toona veel perekonnanimega Must) ja Max Kaur.
„Ta sai küll sinna ringi tänu suhtele Mariaga, kuid Edgar ütles, et isegi siis, kui ta poleks Maria poiss, võtaks ta Raimondi endale nõunikuks,“ meenutab üks nende kauaaegne tuttav.
„Alguses oli ta noor ja arglik ning tegi seda, mida öeldi. Nagu kõik Edgari nõunikud,“ ütleb Evelyn Sepp, kes toona juhtis Keskerakonna avalikke suhteid ja oli üks Savisaare lähemaid kaasvõitlejaid. Sepp soovitaski Tartu ülikoolis semiootikat õppinud Kaljulaidi linna palgale võtta, sest poiss oli osav sõnaseadja ja kirjutaja.
Raimond meeldis „peremehele“, sest peagi julges ta ka vastu vaielda.
ME OLIME LÄHEDASED: Raimond suvel 2008 Edgar Savisaarega Viru hotelli lähistel. Foto: Ingmar Muusikus
„Raimond oli juba siis enesekindel ja julge ütlemisega ning ei peljanud oma arvamust avaldada ka endast suurema elukogemuspagasiga inimestele,“ räägib Karin Väljamäe, kes töötas linnavalitsuses avalike suhete direktorina. „Vahel võis see mõjuda arrogantsena, vahel aga hoopis inspiratsioonina, mis inimestel mõtted liikuma pani.“
Ta iseloomustab Kaljulaidi terase mõtlemise ja sageli ka terava ütlemisega mehena.
Sügisel 2004 haaras linnas võimu Tõnis Palts. Kaljulaid töötas seejärel kolm aastat Õllesummeri pressiesindajana.
Tema suhe Mariaga sai läbi, välismaale kolinud neiu abiellus hollandlasega. Kuid see ei rikkunud Raimondi läbisaamist Edgariga. Parteiboss usaldas Kaljulaidi üha enam.
„Tal oli väga hea läbisaamine Savisaarega,“ ütleb Kadri Simson. „Raimondi osa Edgari mõtetes oli vahepeal väga suur. Lõpuks hakkasid Savisaare avaldustele lõppviimistlust tegema küll teised, kuid etteheited läksid endiselt tema kapsaaeda. Nüüd on Kaljulaidil hulga raskem, sest ta peab oma mõtteid avaldama oma nime all.“
Simson lisab, et Kaljulaid oli aeg-ajalt liiga kärsitu, ei mallanud kõike läbi mõelda enne send-nupule vajutamist.
Mitmetel inimestel on meeles, et Kaljulaid luges enne avaldamist läbi kurikuulsa blogipostituse, mille Edgar Savisaar tegi pronksiöö mässu ajal. See tsementeeris aastateks Keskerakonnale venemeelse partei maine ning ei lasknud tal valitsusse tõusta.
Kaljulaid meenutab: „Ütlesin, et see on julge postitus, aga tõenäoliselt väga problemaatiline. Ma ei ole kunagi andnud inimesele nõu, et ta peaks oma mõtteid tsenseerima või kartma võimalikku vastureaktsiooni.“
Ta ütleb, et tema nõu ei võetud alati kuulda ja „küllalt oli olukordi, kus mõtlesin hiljem, et väga hea, et nad ei teinud nii, nagu mina soovitasin“.
Aasta-aastalt kasvas Kaljulaidi roll Keskerakonna reklaamikampaaniates. Eelmise kümnendi keskel andsid selles vallas tooni Linnar Priimägi ning reklaamifirmat Idea vedanud Mark Eikner ja Paavo Pettai. Kaljulaid sai 2007. aastal tööd Idea PR-harus arendusjuhina. Põhitöö kõrvalt töötas ta partei kampaaniate heaks. Aitas välja töötada põhilisi sõnumeid.
VAID SINU NAER: Raimond oma abikaasa Olgaga suvel 2014 Kadrioru lilleaias korraldatud moesõul. Mullu läksid nad lahku. Foto: Teet Malsroos
2009. aastal Idea pooldus ning Pettai võttis Keskerakonna kaasa oma uude reklaamifirmasse. Peagi lahkus Ideast ka Kaljulaid. Ta hakkas juhtima suhtekorralduse ja turu-uuringute ettevõtet Prenzlauer & Berg, mille kundede sekka kuulusid ka Keskerakond ja Tallinna linnavalitsus.
Nime sai uus agentuur Kaljulaidi ja tema sõprade reisist Berliini, kus nad peatusid Prenzlauer Bergi linnaosas. Prenzlauer & Berg tundus olevat sama äge nimi kui Hill & Knowlton. Nali sai otsa siis, kui tuli esitada esimesed arved – selgus, et eestlased ei osanud nii saksapärast nime omaks võtta. Edasi tarvitati suupärasemat nime PRB.
„Raimond on juhina väga nõudlik, asjad pidid saama alati tähtajaks ja väga hästi tehtud,“ iseloomustab teda ekskolleeg, PRB praegune juht Jane Palm. „Ta võib olla äärmuseni pedantne ja saata töid (artikleid, esitlusi, videoid, strateegiadokumente) lõpmatult tagasi, kuni on nendega rahul.“
Ta lisab, et Kaljulaidil on alati selge plaan, mida peaks tegema, ta mõtleb väga ebakonventsionaalselt ja loovalt, suudab luua uusi ja ootamatuid seoseid. „Üks hull asi on see, et kui ta midagi otsustab, siis on teda peaaegu võimatu ümber veenda. Tegelikult võimatu.“
Sotsiaalmeedia tähtsuse kasvades pühendus PRB esimese Eesti agentuurina digisisu tootmisele. Kaljulaid teenindas selles vallas ka Keskerakonda. „Tema netireklaamid olid sama head kui Pettai toodang, kuid kümme korda odavamad,“ kiidab Kadri Simson.
Samas oli osa Keskerakonna ässasid häiritud, et Kaljulaidi-sugune „noor nolk“ ütleb ette, kuidas asjad peavad käima.
isiklikuks meedianõustajaks.
Kaljulaid jagas linnavalitsuse kabinetti 607a Keskerakonna teise tõusva tähe Jüri Ratasega. Ülejäänud kaks nõunikku olid Kadri Simson (toona veel perekonnanimega Must) ja Max Kaur.
„Ta sai küll sinna ringi tänu suhtele Mariaga, kuid Edgar ütles, et isegi siis, kui ta poleks Maria poiss, võtaks ta Raimondi endale nõunikuks,“ meenutab üks nende kauaaegne tuttav.
„Alguses oli ta noor ja arglik ning tegi seda, mida öeldi. Nagu kõik Edgari nõunikud,“ ütleb Evelyn Sepp, kes toona juhtis Keskerakonna avalikke suhteid ja oli üks Savisaare lähemaid kaasvõitlejaid. Sepp soovitaski Tartu ülikoolis semiootikat õppinud Kaljulaidi linna palgale võtta, sest poiss oli osav sõnaseadja ja kirjutaja.
Raimond meeldis „peremehele“, sest peagi julges ta ka vastu vaielda.
ME OLIME LÄHEDASED: Raimond suvel 2008 Edgar Savisaarega Viru hotelli lähistel. Foto: Ingmar Muusikus
„Raimond oli juba siis enesekindel ja julge ütlemisega ning ei peljanud oma arvamust avaldada ka endast suurema elukogemuspagasiga inimestele,“ räägib Karin Väljamäe, kes töötas linnavalitsuses avalike suhete direktorina. „Vahel võis see mõjuda arrogantsena, vahel aga hoopis inspiratsioonina, mis inimestel mõtted liikuma pani.“
Ta iseloomustab Kaljulaidi terase mõtlemise ja sageli ka terava ütlemisega mehena.
Sügisel 2004 haaras linnas võimu Tõnis Palts. Kaljulaid töötas seejärel kolm aastat Õllesummeri pressiesindajana.
Tema suhe Mariaga sai läbi, välismaale kolinud neiu abiellus hollandlasega. Kuid see ei rikkunud Raimondi läbisaamist Edgariga. Parteiboss usaldas Kaljulaidi üha enam.
„Tal oli väga hea läbisaamine Savisaarega,“ ütleb Kadri Simson. „Raimondi osa Edgari mõtetes oli vahepeal väga suur. Lõpuks hakkasid Savisaare avaldustele lõppviimistlust tegema küll teised, kuid etteheited läksid endiselt tema kapsaaeda. Nüüd on Kaljulaidil hulga raskem, sest ta peab oma mõtteid avaldama oma nime all.“
Simson lisab, et Kaljulaid oli aeg-ajalt liiga kärsitu, ei mallanud kõike läbi mõelda enne send-nupule vajutamist.
Mitmetel inimestel on meeles, et Kaljulaid luges enne avaldamist läbi kurikuulsa blogipostituse, mille Edgar Savisaar tegi pronksiöö mässu ajal. See tsementeeris aastateks Keskerakonnale venemeelse partei maine ning ei lasknud tal valitsusse tõusta.
Kaljulaid meenutab: „Ütlesin, et see on julge postitus, aga tõenäoliselt väga problemaatiline. Ma ei ole kunagi andnud inimesele nõu, et ta peaks oma mõtteid tsenseerima või kartma võimalikku vastureaktsiooni.“
Ta ütleb, et tema nõu ei võetud alati kuulda ja „küllalt oli olukordi, kus mõtlesin hiljem, et väga hea, et nad ei teinud nii, nagu mina soovitasin“.
Aasta-aastalt kasvas Kaljulaidi roll Keskerakonna reklaamikampaaniates. Eelmise kümnendi keskel andsid selles vallas tooni Linnar Priimägi ning reklaamifirmat Idea vedanud Mark Eikner ja Paavo Pettai. Kaljulaid sai 2007. aastal tööd Idea PR-harus arendusjuhina. Põhitöö kõrvalt töötas ta partei kampaaniate heaks. Aitas välja töötada põhilisi sõnumeid.
VAID SINU NAER: Raimond oma abikaasa Olgaga suvel 2014 Kadrioru lilleaias korraldatud moesõul. Mullu läksid nad lahku. Foto: Teet Malsroos
2009. aastal Idea pooldus ning Pettai võttis Keskerakonna kaasa oma uude reklaamifirmasse. Peagi lahkus Ideast ka Kaljulaid. Ta hakkas juhtima suhtekorralduse ja turu-uuringute ettevõtet Prenzlauer & Berg, mille kundede sekka kuulusid ka Keskerakond ja Tallinna linnavalitsus.
Nime sai uus agentuur Kaljulaidi ja tema sõprade reisist Berliini, kus nad peatusid Prenzlauer Bergi linnaosas. Prenzlauer & Berg tundus olevat sama äge nimi kui Hill & Knowlton. Nali sai otsa siis, kui tuli esitada esimesed arved – selgus, et eestlased ei osanud nii saksapärast nime omaks võtta. Edasi tarvitati suupärasemat nime PRB.
„Raimond on juhina väga nõudlik, asjad pidid saama alati tähtajaks ja väga hästi tehtud,“ iseloomustab teda ekskolleeg, PRB praegune juht Jane Palm. „Ta võib olla äärmuseni pedantne ja saata töid (artikleid, esitlusi, videoid, strateegiadokumente) lõpmatult tagasi, kuni on nendega rahul.“
Ta lisab, et Kaljulaidil on alati selge plaan, mida peaks tegema, ta mõtleb väga ebakonventsionaalselt ja loovalt, suudab luua uusi ja ootamatuid seoseid. „Üks hull asi on see, et kui ta midagi otsustab, siis on teda peaaegu võimatu ümber veenda. Tegelikult võimatu.“
Sotsiaalmeedia tähtsuse kasvades pühendus PRB esimese Eesti agentuurina digisisu tootmisele. Kaljulaid teenindas selles vallas ka Keskerakonda. „Tema netireklaamid olid sama head kui Pettai toodang, kuid kümme korda odavamad,“ kiidab Kadri Simson.
Samas oli osa Keskerakonna ässasid häiritud, et Kaljulaidi-sugune „noor nolk“ ütleb ette, kuidas asjad peavad käima.
26 April 2017 19:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
täismahus:
Raimond Kaljulaid (34) on poseerinud alasti, toetab homode õigusi ja kuulub skandaalse veebikülje nihilist.fm autorite sekka.  Tal on oluline roll Keskerakonna järgmises valimiskampaanias.  Ta ei kuulu Jüri Ratase lähikonda, Edgar Savisaare seltskond peab teda aga reeturiks.
Kaljulaidi karjäär
 2002–2004 Tallinna linnavalitsuse nõunik
 2005–2007 Õllesummeri pressiesindaja
 2007–2009 Idea PR-i arendusjuht
 2009–2016 eraettevõtja
 2016–... Põhja-Tallinna linnaosa vanem
Ühel märtsipäeval 2015 sõitis Raimond Kaljulaid Tallinnas Rotermanni kontori maa-alusesse parklasse, kui helises telefon.
Keskerakonna peasekretäri Priit Toobali hääl kõlas niivõrd tungivana, et Kaljulaid pööras auto ringi ja läks Tallinna linnavalitsusse. Ning sealt edasi Tartusse, sest partei esimees Edgar Savisaar viibis Maarjamõisa haiglas, väga raskes seisus.
Kaljulaid jäi Tartusse kümneks päevaks. Sihvakast, üle 190 cm pikast mehest sai ajutiselt Savisaare pere mitteametlik pressiesindaja.
Paljud Kaljulaidi digiturundusega tegeleva firma PRB kliendid taipasid alles siis, kuivõrd lähedalt oli ta seotud Keskerakonna ja Savisaarega.
Kaljulaidi kolleegid olid harjunud: kui hommikustes uudistes räägitakse, kuidas Keskerakonda tabas mingi jama, siis on üsna kindel, et Raimond helistab ja teatab, et sel päeval kontorisse ei tule.
Viimati tarvitas tema teeneid Martin Repinski, kui astus tagasi põllumajandusministri kohalt.
„Poliitiline kommunikatsioon ongi enamalt jaolt kriisikommunikatsioon,“ ütleb Kaljulaid. „See, mis erasektoris oleks mõne firma jaoks kümne aasta kõige dramaatilisem sündmus, on poliitikute jaoks igapäevane.“
Kaljulaid võlgneb suure osa oma edust Savisaartele. Ta ilmus avalikkuse ette Edgari tütre Maria Savisaare peigmehena. See suhe lennutas ta 2002. aastal – vaid 20aastasena – linnapea
NOORED JA ARMUNUD: Maria Savisaar ja Raimond Kaljulaid oktoobris 2001 Sakala keskuses, kus Keskerakond pidas kümnendat sünnipäevapidu. Foto: Marko Mumm
Raimond Kaljulaid (34) on poseerinud alasti, toetab homode õigusi ja kuulub skandaalse veebikülje nihilist.fm autorite sekka.  Tal on oluline roll Keskerakonna järgmises valimiskampaanias.  Ta ei kuulu Jüri Ratase lähikonda, Edgar Savisaare seltskond peab teda aga reeturiks.
Kaljulaidi karjäär
 2002–2004 Tallinna linnavalitsuse nõunik
 2005–2007 Õllesummeri pressiesindaja
 2007–2009 Idea PR-i arendusjuht
 2009–2016 eraettevõtja
 2016–... Põhja-Tallinna linnaosa vanem
Ühel märtsipäeval 2015 sõitis Raimond Kaljulaid Tallinnas Rotermanni kontori maa-alusesse parklasse, kui helises telefon.
Keskerakonna peasekretäri Priit Toobali hääl kõlas niivõrd tungivana, et Kaljulaid pööras auto ringi ja läks Tallinna linnavalitsusse. Ning sealt edasi Tartusse, sest partei esimees Edgar Savisaar viibis Maarjamõisa haiglas, väga raskes seisus.
Kaljulaid jäi Tartusse kümneks päevaks. Sihvakast, üle 190 cm pikast mehest sai ajutiselt Savisaare pere mitteametlik pressiesindaja.
Paljud Kaljulaidi digiturundusega tegeleva firma PRB kliendid taipasid alles siis, kuivõrd lähedalt oli ta seotud Keskerakonna ja Savisaarega.
Kaljulaidi kolleegid olid harjunud: kui hommikustes uudistes räägitakse, kuidas Keskerakonda tabas mingi jama, siis on üsna kindel, et Raimond helistab ja teatab, et sel päeval kontorisse ei tule.
Viimati tarvitas tema teeneid Martin Repinski, kui astus tagasi põllumajandusministri kohalt.
„Poliitiline kommunikatsioon ongi enamalt jaolt kriisikommunikatsioon,“ ütleb Kaljulaid. „See, mis erasektoris oleks mõne firma jaoks kümne aasta kõige dramaatilisem sündmus, on poliitikute jaoks igapäevane.“
Kaljulaid võlgneb suure osa oma edust Savisaartele. Ta ilmus avalikkuse ette Edgari tütre Maria Savisaare peigmehena. See suhe lennutas ta 2002. aastal – vaid 20aastasena – linnapea
NOORED JA ARMUNUD: Maria Savisaar ja Raimond Kaljulaid oktoobris 2001 Sakala keskuses, kus Keskerakond pidas kümnendat sünnipäevapidu. Foto: Marko Mumm
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26 April 2017 19:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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kuid eks meil ka oma tööriistad ja selle kestaga ehk mine tea mida paremat teha saab kui peldikutaha ja pauk pähe nagu mu ema ütleks taoliste osas26 April 2017 19:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
ja ku isellisest näost ei oska inimesed kurjust , suure K kurjust välja lugeda, siis mida nad üldse lugeda mõistavad26 April 2017 19:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
et ise promovad ja siis häbenevad.. et mis toetused need periooditi käivad neil siis nagu..26 April 2017 19:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
artikkel see siis
(muidugi tüüpiline välisluure agenda "savisaar peab reeturiks" ja "ei kuulu ratase lähiseltskonda" .. et see siis peaks nagu usladust tekitama otsese kurjuse tipu ja pervertsuste avaliku toetuse osas v?)
Ja nagu kurjusele omane, samas ninaall ütlevad tegelikud faktid (et üks savisaare lemmikuid ja ratas hindab, nu ja siis muidugi oleks alusetu inimvastase pederastia ja nihilisti toetajat süüdistada reeturlikuses, see rohkem käib nagu CV juurde, see üks PÕHI omadusi selliste lvaimudel, nagu jooksjal on kiirus ja raskuse tõstjal on muskel.. oleks arulage seda sedasi väljendada, nagu see oleks miinus, arvestades seda kellest juttu, see on ikka elementaarne omadus ja oskus, loomus)
(muidugi tüüpiline välisluure agenda "savisaar peab reeturiks" ja "ei kuulu ratase lähiseltskonda" .. et see siis peaks nagu usladust tekitama otsese kurjuse tipu ja pervertsuste avaliku toetuse osas v?)
Ja nagu kurjusele omane, samas ninaall ütlevad tegelikud faktid (et üks savisaare lemmikuid ja ratas hindab, nu ja siis muidugi oleks alusetu inimvastase pederastia ja nihilisti toetajat süüdistada reeturlikuses, see rohkem käib nagu CV juurde, see üks PÕHI omadusi selliste lvaimudel, nagu jooksjal on kiirus ja raskuse tõstjal on muskel.. oleks arulage seda sedasi väljendada, nagu see oleks miinus, arvestades seda kellest juttu, see on ikka elementaarne omadus ja oskus, loomus)
26 April 2017 19:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
26 April 2017 19:12
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Niikui ma seda asja kommenteerisin, ajakirjaniku lehel, siis kohe kadus see asi avalikuse eest ära, veider26 April 2017 19:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kiiresti käivad asjad, vaevu 10 minutit möödas ja juba avaliku lugemise eest see postitus ära pandud.
Siin peab ikka pidevalt salvestama ja arhiive tegema, muidu ei saa
Siin peab ikka pidevalt salvestama ja arhiive tegema, muidu ei saa
26 April 2017 19:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kommenteerisin asja ära esimese vaimu informatsiooni osas jasiis oli nagu "oo shit.... oot mida mida... kellegist heast on hoopis juttu v... oot peab veel vaatama.. oeh, again.. "
26 April 2017 18:49
Margus Meigo replied to Estonia's comment.
lõõbime veel
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1805413636453287&set=p.1805413636453287&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1805413636453287&set=p.1805413636453287&type=3&theater
26 April 2017 04:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i really did not see what i sing up to or why and what it will do, as this website was not going in to or perhaps i did not see, but the site some how did get my email and postal zip address so it was easy to press sing up to see..
not that i did see, but at least they told, i support now , this something, government
not that i did see, but at least they told, i support now , this something, government
26 April 2017 03:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And as in USA, colors are .. well, Blue means not "republican" as in European Union - EU then this add's to the "what is going on" for a outsider as me,
i mean, this is kind of idea on what i would come, to help gov and make money with it for a reason to help gov, to make money so they can make something with it in a way that people would have money to make things move around so money will be bring more in to a country / and after few rounds, happiness should arrive,
basically,
but in beginning, people have to start to HELP their gov, not rip it off and not make private "my own making" biz only, and media channels that support things that make humans unproductive, in mind and heart.. no idea why gov's are so counter productive, communistic and allow this kind of freaky things as we have in here,
if we would be on charge... then .. soon, You would be on charge
i mean, this is kind of idea on what i would come, to help gov and make money with it for a reason to help gov, to make money so they can make something with it in a way that people would have money to make things move around so money will be bring more in to a country / and after few rounds, happiness should arrive,
basically,
but in beginning, people have to start to HELP their gov, not rip it off and not make private "my own making" biz only, and media channels that support things that make humans unproductive, in mind and heart.. no idea why gov's are so counter productive, communistic and allow this kind of freaky things as we have in here,
if we would be on charge... then .. soon, You would be on charge
26 April 2017 03:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The " United States political action committee " sounds so official, i am not pretty sure yet is it official,
But if it is, then how this email reflects, ?
What Would You understand?
My first moment understanding was, that business man Trump made brilliant business adventure and let's now people donate directly money to a White House so government will have extra budget under false/humor(populist flag as USA would be bankrupting , the center of gov, if we do not.
(well, they should be in a way to be one of the last ones, to bankrupt, should have money and force to take money from who they need if their need becomes so big that they need to take it, to survive, really, and i would support it ideologically kind of , for greater good (a capitalistic way, taking, with force from who does not understand, that what they got is needed to keep all what we got) )
But if it is, then how this email reflects, ?
What Would You understand?
My first moment understanding was, that business man Trump made brilliant business adventure and let's now people donate directly money to a White House so government will have extra budget under false/humor(populist flag as USA would be bankrupting , the center of gov, if we do not.
(well, they should be in a way to be one of the last ones, to bankrupt, should have money and force to take money from who they need if their need becomes so big that they need to take it, to survive, really, and i would support it ideologically kind of , for greater good (a capitalistic way, taking, with force from who does not understand, that what they got is needed to keep all what we got) )
26 April 2017 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So i was not sure, if this is a spam, is it a joke, is it a random marketing or what it is, or is it serious revolution or government related, surprise was to find that in a way all of it.
"ActBlue is a United States political action committee established in June 2004 that enables anyone to raise money on the Internet for the Democratic Party candidates of their choice. It is independent of the Democratic Party itself and does not endorse individual candidates.
ActBlue has grown quickly to become a major fundraising tool for Democrats, with over 445 federal candidates and committees using the service during the 2014 election cycle.[1] As of April 2016, ActBlue had raised more than $1.1 billion for Democratic candidates and progressive organizations at various levels of politics, making it the largest single source of funds in United States politics. The organization is open to all registered Democratic campaigns, candidates and 501(c)(4) organizations. ActBlue is a not-for-profit organization. ActBlue officially incurs costs of 3.95% of the gross contribution, and those fees are passed on to campaigns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActBlue
"ActBlue is a United States political action committee established in June 2004 that enables anyone to raise money on the Internet for the Democratic Party candidates of their choice. It is independent of the Democratic Party itself and does not endorse individual candidates.
ActBlue has grown quickly to become a major fundraising tool for Democrats, with over 445 federal candidates and committees using the service during the 2014 election cycle.[1] As of April 2016, ActBlue had raised more than $1.1 billion for Democratic candidates and progressive organizations at various levels of politics, making it the largest single source of funds in United States politics. The organization is open to all registered Democratic campaigns, candidates and 501(c)(4) organizations. ActBlue is a not-for-profit organization. ActBlue officially incurs costs of 3.95% of the gross contribution, and those fees are passed on to campaigns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActBlue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActBlue
26 April 2017 03:17
Margus Meigo commented on Aaron W. Hastings's post.
This Was really good!
26 April 2017 01:40
Margus Meigo replied to Aaron W. Hastings's comment.
I thought Won..
26 April 2017 01:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so.. meie ikka looduses, et
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYDTVepKHg0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYDTVepKHg0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYDTVepKHg0
25 April 2017 20:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
as in the day's of noas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nhEfCcUsJU&feature=share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nhEfCcUsJU&feature=share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nhEfCcUsJU&feature=share
25 April 2017 20:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Angels have fixed limitation, humans are not bound by evolution/creation to overgrow any barrier and to get in touch with any living or communicable manner
25 April 2017 18:34
Margus Meigo commented on Von Sachsen Bellony Foundation's photo.
She So really loves!
25 April 2017 18:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
again smart man in Estonia say, that when one does not know what (in what direction, why) is needed to think, then thinking can end up to be a really dangerous thing to do.
25 April 2017 18:24
Margus Meigo commented on Judith Avery's post.
But they all thinking about it, that is at least, a bit good, or not ?
25 April 2017 18:22
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's photo.
really interesting one :
25 April 2017 17:23
Margus Meigo replied to Ant Insuli's comment.
behave yourself
25 April 2017 17:22
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's photo.
Really natural in good way
25 April 2017 17:22
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's photo.
i hope armor is symbolic
25 April 2017 17:20
Margus Meigo replied to Jeff Blatnick's comment.
yes but seems not at all realaxed,, right?
25 April 2017 17:19
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's photo.
a bit to glittery, i know it looks nice one way but material in another way..
25 April 2017 17:18
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's photo.
what is the worry on that moment in there?
25 April 2017 17:13
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's photo.
not too different in all arias
25 April 2017 17:12
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's photo.
anything?
25 April 2017 17:09
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's photo.
aww
25 April 2017 17:09
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's photo.
kind of like You before
25 April 2017 17:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
term child prodigy is defined as a person under the age of ten who produces meaningful output in some domain to the level of an adult expert performer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_child_prodigies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_child_prodigies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_child_prodigies
25 April 2017 02:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but as with sports, when they figure out turning human minds... 528 points will not be a trouble
//jst lets hope for God sake that by that time is serain, figured out the impotence of heart and knowing what we should do..
//jst lets hope for God sake that by that time is serain, figured out the impotence of heart and knowing what we should do..
25 April 2017 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Dr. Evangelos Katsioulis, / not in nasa
Katsioulis has a reported IQ of 205 on the Stanford-Binet scale with sd 16, which is equivalent to an IQ of 198.4 on the Wechsler scale with sd 15, which is also equivalent to an IQ of 258 on the Cattell scale with sd 24
Katsioulis is credited for his research that has proved to be very useful to the medical industry for a long period of time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelos_Katsioulis
Katsioulis has a reported IQ of 205 on the Stanford-Binet scale with sd 16, which is equivalent to an IQ of 198.4 on the Wechsler scale with sd 15, which is also equivalent to an IQ of 258 on the Cattell scale with sd 24
Katsioulis is credited for his research that has proved to be very useful to the medical industry for a long period of time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelos_Katsioulis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelos_Katsioulis
25 April 2017 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
iq 186 to 228 / not in nasa
featured in the Guinness book of records as the world’s most intelligent woman in 1985. And that’s not all; Marilyn is one lady who is known to have done different IQ tests with some tests even showing a number as high as 218
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_vos_Savant
http://www.marilynvossavant.com/
"The Mega Test has been criticized by professional psychologists as improperly designed and scored, "nothing short of number pulverization"
featured in the Guinness book of records as the world’s most intelligent woman in 1985. And that’s not all; Marilyn is one lady who is known to have done different IQ tests with some tests even showing a number as high as 218
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_vos_Savant
http://www.marilynvossavant.com/
"The Mega Test has been criticized by professional psychologists as improperly designed and scored, "nothing short of number pulverization"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_vos_Savant
25 April 2017 02:08
Margus Meigo replied to D James Spencer's comment.
i did post some other large ones in comments, but he is surely one of the ones who is most down to earth from the ones
25 April 2017 01:40
Margus Meigo replied to D James Spencer's comment.
True
25 April 2017 01:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
iq 210, NASA community
fluent 4 languages at age 2, hired by nasa age 8 after finishing college in age 5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Ung-yong
fluent 4 languages at age 2, hired by nasa age 8 after finishing college in age 5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Ung-yong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Ung-yong
25 April 2017 01:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
iq 225, NASA's Johnson Space Center
http://www.tapir.caltech.edu/~chirata/web/
http://www.tapir.caltech.edu/~chirata/web/
25 April 2017 01:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
iq 230, NASA - National Aeronautics and Space Administration
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_Tao
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_Tao
25 April 2017 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"talking about math makes me sick "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0nnseg7YTU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0nnseg7YTU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0nnseg7YTU
25 April 2017 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But yea, clearly to much over produced ..but at same time, does give effect, but would need to see non artistic version also
25 April 2017 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey, this was Chris Langan, farboy working as a barman, doing some rock music, body building, firefighting, bouncer etc,
..so then there is a Richard , who also got some 190+ IQ whatever that means, worked as nude artist, stripper, roller-skating waiter, bouncer... well, in it the Garden of Creation wide?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_G._Rosner
..so then there is a Richard , who also got some 190+ IQ whatever that means, worked as nude artist, stripper, roller-skating waiter, bouncer... well, in it the Garden of Creation wide?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_G._Rosner
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_G._Rosner
25 April 2017 00:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This website has been created to provide information on Christopher Langan's Theory of Everything, the Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe. This site contains articles and discussions on the CTMU and related topics. If you are interested in learning more, please subscribe to the CTMU list for a summary of the theory, links to articles, and participation in the CTMU discussions and conferences.
Christopher Langan's article on the Theory of Theories, can be viewed here.
An excerpt from Cheating the Millennium: The Mounting Explanatory Debts of Scientific Naturalism, Christopher Langan's essay on causality and teleologic evolution, from the book Uncommon Dissent: Intellectuals who find Darwinism Unconvincing, can be viewed here.
http://www.ctmu.org/
Christopher Langan's article on the Theory of Theories, can be viewed here.
An excerpt from Cheating the Millennium: The Mounting Explanatory Debts of Scientific Naturalism, Christopher Langan's essay on causality and teleologic evolution, from the book Uncommon Dissent: Intellectuals who find Darwinism Unconvincing, can be viewed here.
http://www.ctmu.org/
http://www.ctmu.org/
25 April 2017 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Q: God said he would reveal his existence (reality) with numbers. Do you see yourself as part of this end time promise?
A: If God made such a promise, then one could say that the CTMU is at least a part of its fulfillment. This is because the number concept is actually far more general than most people think it is.
http://www.megafoundation.org/CTMU/Q&A/Archive.html#God
A: If God made such a promise, then one could say that the CTMU is at least a part of its fulfillment. This is because the number concept is actually far more general than most people think it is.
http://www.megafoundation.org/CTMU/Q&A/Archive.html#God
http://www.megafoundation.org/CTMU/Q&A/Archive.html#God
25 April 2017 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Just put me on charge" (of world), i like that approach
Well, at least he does not theorize about useless numbers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-HXSHXUtFw
Well, at least he does not theorize about useless numbers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-HXSHXUtFw
25 April 2017 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
And Godliness is for these who understand for what these 2 are
24 April 2017 18:04
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Kusjuures, see tõepoolest võiks toimida, nagu et tulnarid reaalselt mõtleks, mis oleks see mis kogu asja kokku viiks võttes arvesse noorte kultuuri, arusaame, tarkusi mis selles lauses jne,
ja siis lopliku valemina see tuleks ja toimiks küll, raamatu kaanena kohe kindlasit sobiks, kus sees näiteid lõputu a hole olemise osas
ja siis lopliku valemina see tuleks ja toimiks küll, raamatu kaanena kohe kindlasit sobiks, kus sees näiteid lõputu a hole olemise osas
24 April 2017 18:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kind of was so,
Yes, once you start to heal the chest after placing heart back in to it, will see, the quilt of feelings "what if" and other things we feel (and felt) was not able to do...
// these things also was perhaps needed so we can be prepared, in warning; if best of us can be then how much more serious we should be
Yes, once you start to heal the chest after placing heart back in to it, will see, the quilt of feelings "what if" and other things we feel (and felt) was not able to do...
// these things also was perhaps needed so we can be prepared, in warning; if best of us can be then how much more serious we should be
24 April 2017 06:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And Feeling guilty is a escape from doing things better,
24 April 2017 06:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
You should say "LOVE" no " d "
24 April 2017 06:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Okey, i can not press "like" as i would not like, what you did or are going through,
Do You prefer to talk in public?
Do You prefer to talk in public?
24 April 2017 06:03
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's photo.
will do some wiz with that
24 April 2017 05:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(i am thinking what to reply)
24 April 2017 05:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Is hard to appear happy when we not
24 April 2017 05:54
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's photo.
far from it
24 April 2017 05:53
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah R Adams's post.
But one have to be smart also , to manage beauty
24 April 2017 05:52
Margus Meigo replied to Peter Olsson's comment.
(under "they" i mean not a Korea )
24 April 2017 05:37
Margus Meigo replied to Peter Olsson's comment.
they try hard Anyone to throw first blow so they can proceed, ... but who would be so mad ignorant to give in to this ?
24 April 2017 05:36
Margus Meigo replied to Peter Olsson's comment.
yes i know, they make it sound like it would be really so
24 April 2017 05:19
Margus Meigo commented on Teo Esaiashvili's post.
really bad sues, prison shues
24 April 2017 04:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but knowing the advantage, they have, and plan by these who put him there, they use this story for their advantage, in extreme length
24 April 2017 04:32
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Forte's post.
This is why Trump co -operates with Scientologist in dark , who he told is "wonderful people" as web told, who can remove these psychiatrists...
and lets remember psychiatrist are real deal, not theory based psychologist..
and lets remember psychiatrist are real deal, not theory based psychologist..
24 April 2017 04:25
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
einujaa, tõsilugu
kuigi nad on äärmiselt korralikud hiired alati viimasel ajal kus elanud olen, nad üldiselt mu enda toitu ei puutu mis mul samas kõrval on, kuid kausi mille neile pannud olen, sellest söövad korralikult ja lausa tühjaks.
Sama oli ka eelmises majas, terve leiva ühe ööga viisid mis valmis olin lõiganud, kuid mu omi asju nad üldiselt ei puudu, kui just väga kaua toidutu pole hoidnud, kuid siis ka usutavasti märguandmiseks
kuigi nad on äärmiselt korralikud hiired alati viimasel ajal kus elanud olen, nad üldiselt mu enda toitu ei puutu mis mul samas kõrval on, kuid kausi mille neile pannud olen, sellest söövad korralikult ja lausa tühjaks.
Sama oli ka eelmises majas, terve leiva ühe ööga viisid mis valmis olin lõiganud, kuid mu omi asju nad üldiselt ei puudu, kui just väga kaua toidutu pole hoidnud, kuid siis ka usutavasti märguandmiseks
24 April 2017 03:29
Margus Meigo commented on Peter Olsson's post.
They make it sound like Korea would want to strike
24 April 2017 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hirmuäratav mõelda, milleks meie kultuuri likvideerivad jõudseda kasutavad, kuid parem siis mõelda, milleks meie seda kasutada saame enda säilitamiseks, kui kiiresti eelreageerime
24 April 2017 02:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
KAMA
http://neurotolge.ee/
http://neurotolge.ee/
http://neurotolge.ee/
24 April 2017 02:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://phon.ioc.ee/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=projects:projects.en
https://phon.ioc.ee/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=projects%3Aprojects.en
24 April 2017 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://viki.keeleleek.ee/wiki/K%C3%B5nesalvestuste_brauser
http://viki.keeleleek.ee/wiki/K%C3%B5nesalvestuste_brauser
24 April 2017 02:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Selletaval sarnaste saadete võrklinkimist oli oma uistuses ammu plaanis
24 April 2017 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Remember, he say's these who took ON jew identity (not a natural jews!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q43Gapqae-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q43Gapqae-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q43Gapqae-0
23 April 2017 05:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
Violence loves freedom, it wants to win and concur [her].
Violence longs to make freedom lean onto itself.
Violence loves freedom,
loves freedom...
Flee, free child!
http://lyricstranslate.com/en/p%C3%B5gene-vaba-laps-flee-free-child.html
Violence loves freedom, it wants to win and concur [her].
Violence longs to make freedom lean onto itself.
Violence loves freedom,
loves freedom...
Flee, free child!
http://lyricstranslate.com/en/p%C3%B5gene-vaba-laps-flee-free-child.html
http://lyricstranslate.com/en/p%C3%B5gene-vaba-laps-flee-free-child.html
23 April 2017 05:28
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ossaraks, mul sele poolpakki juustu terve ööga, kõik oli kadunud mis panin,
ju oli neid mitu
ju oli neid mitu
22 April 2017 16:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Hobo Hilton
girlfriend of a Brit UFO conspiracy theorist who threw up two litres of black fluid before dying has been quizzed by cops.
Max Spiers was found dead on Monika Duval’s sofa in July 2016 – just days before he was due to speak at a conspiracy theory conference in Poland
Vanessa Bates, 63
Originally from Canterbury, Max was a former classmate of Orlando Bloom.
Mum Vanessa, an English teacher, also buys into the theories.
She said: “Max was a very fit man who was in good health and yet he apparently just died suddenly on a sofa.
“All I have is a death certificate from the Polish authorities that it was from natural causes, but no post-mortem was done so how can they tell that? They are also refusing to release any paperwork about it to me because, absurdly, I don’t have his written permission.”
--
Max Spiers (12.22.1976 – 7.16.2016) ... 07/16/16 adds up to 7/7/722 April 2017 09:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
These guy videos i have not analized, but it is just mainstream, guy it self IS extremely possessed, and not heard the videos, and was acting not smart by doing bad in a computer and putting silly messages in gov computer, it is not needed to do so, if make things better
http://www.ancient-code.com/nasa-hacker-i-found-evidence-america-has-deep-space-warships/http://www.ancient-code.com/nasa-hacker-i-found-evidence-america-has-deep-space-warships/
22 April 2017 09:12
Margus Meigo replied to Pankaj Mehta's comment.
.:.
https://youtu.be/OzA4orhnIXg?t=3400
https://youtu.be/OzA4orhnIXg?t=3400
22 April 2017 08:44
Margus Meigo replied to Pankaj Mehta's comment.
it is godly
22 April 2017 08:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Hobo Hilton
english translation of the page:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fporozmawiajmy.tv%2Fiv-rzesza-dulce-i-ksiezycowa-maszyna-przechwytujace-dusze-max-spiers%2F&edit-text=&act=urlhttps://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fporozmawiajmy.tv%2Fiv-rzesza-dulce-i-ksiezycowa-maszyna-przechwytujace-dusze-max-spiers%2F&edit-text&act=url
22 April 2017 08:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
interviews by Polish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzA4orhnIXg
http://porozmawiajmy.tv/iv-rzesza-dulce-i-ksiezycowa-maszyna-przechwytujace-dusze-max-spiers/
dlaczego rozmawiamy na takie traumatyczne tematy
IV Rzesza
związek słów Syjon i Nazizm
podziemna baza CLC-1
jak wygląda Pindar
dlaczego rozpylane są smugi chemiczne
ciekawostki hoteli Hilton
baza Dulce
rytuały satanistyczne w Watykanie
czym jest Księżyc
maszyna do łapania dusz na Księżycu
Księżyc i Saturn
czym jest Nibiru
magia symboliczna
patologiczny gender
pasożytnicza świadomość musi się poddać i odejśćhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzA4orhnIXg
22 April 2017 08:18
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Frisby's post.
they believe not as perhaps thinking earth is in fact flat
22 April 2017 07:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
for various contampory chat about topic
22 April 2017 07:38
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kuid jah, ega juust osas ei imestaks, see üldse üks kahtlane toit tundub, avastasin seda just kuumutades, vedelikus, miskiks plastmassiaoliseks olluseks muutus
22 April 2017 02:46
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
muidugi neid teadlasi ei tea uskuda, mõned labori idioodid räägivad ka, et kassidele kala ei meeldi sest pole pooduslikult nende toit,
aga kui kalamees õue tuli, siis vana kass kes kuuaega pold toast välja saanud, läbi kahe ukse ja üle õue tunnetas ära ja jooksis auto juurde täie tervise juures ning pistis terve suure kala korraga pintsli
aga kui kalamees õue tuli, siis vana kass kes kuuaega pold toast välja saanud, läbi kahe ukse ja üle õue tunnetas ära ja jooksis auto juurde täie tervise juures ning pistis terve suure kala korraga pintsli
22 April 2017 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on Kim Marcussen's post.
i have not have had blessings to use social services in my life jet
22 April 2017 02:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mis sa triin naerad, peab uurima, multifilmidest on praegu ainuke info hiire ja juustu osas, aga kui tõene see on
21 April 2017 20:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" 'I am a construction engineer and an agriculturalist. If I had training camps here in Sudan "
21 April 2017 20:04
Margus Meigo commented on Agency of Truth and Justice's photo.
argh, bothers me when people do not link original material to it.. how hard is it..
REALLY bad habit to just put pictures
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/anti-soviet-warrior-puts-his-army-on-the-road-to-peace-the-saudi-businessman-who-recruited-mujahedin-1465715.html
REALLY bad habit to just put pictures
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/anti-soviet-warrior-puts-his-army-on-the-road-to-peace-the-saudi-businessman-who-recruited-mujahedin-1465715.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/anti-soviet-warrior-puts-his-army-on-the-road-to-peace-the-saudi-businessman-who-recruited-mujahedin-1465715.html
21 April 2017 19:58
Margus Meigo replied to Rolf Essi's comment.
Nu eks nad paljusi asju proovivad ja katsetavad piire palju kuhu minna saab, mida kunst ja tehnoloogia võimaldavad,
Kuid ikka väga palju nad valivad ja väga spetsaalselt neid asju ikka ka mi stoiminud on ja mis toimivat näib kas neid endied aitavana või teist takerdavana, või uut kasutatavat sünnitavana (värdkunsti ja õudusfilmidega, mass illusiooni teooriate ja mass paanika hoogugeda)
Kuid ikka väga palju nad valivad ja väga spetsaalselt neid asju ikka ka mi stoiminud on ja mis toimivat näib kas neid endied aitavana või teist takerdavana, või uut kasutatavat sünnitavana (värdkunsti ja õudusfilmidega, mass illusiooni teooriate ja mass paanika hoogugeda)
21 April 2017 14:22
Margus Meigo replied to Arthur Melhuish's comment.
Group: Hobo Hilton
no need to move out from here also soon...
so anyone who should by some miracle still come, in Estonia, then i can host with sauna a little more21 April 2017 13:32
Margus Meigo replied to Rolf Essi's comment.
Ja muidugi eks seda on näha mida see suitsetamine ja joomine meie riigile toonud on, oleme riigi ja kodud käest lasknud ja terve riigi ikke alla pannud, peaaegu samanaeruväärselt nagu enamus muid maid... ja veelgi, samade standardite järgi mis hoopis muu resursiga riigid, eeskujulikult lipsud ees,
kui ajud tahmased ega siis selge pilguga ringi ei osata vaadata
monel lihtsalt hea nägemine ja siis teatud asju läbi tahma näeb, mis vanast ajast veres vanematelt, kuid nagu muidu jah, see ikka meie vallutajate meie vastane relv
kui ajud tahmased ega siis selge pilguga ringi ei osata vaadata
monel lihtsalt hea nägemine ja siis teatud asju läbi tahma näeb, mis vanast ajast veres vanematelt, kuid nagu muidu jah, see ikka meie vallutajate meie vastane relv
21 April 2017 13:23
Margus Meigo replied to Rolf Essi's comment.
Nu jah, need ikkagi suitsupakid otse, lastesilmade kõrgusel suht,
Ega vana suitsumees, talle ei hakkagi, kui noortele beibedele ja muidu nooruse teadmatuse mullis elavad, neile ikka mõjub kõvasti
Ega vana suitsumees, talle ei hakkagi, kui noortele beibedele ja muidu nooruse teadmatuse mullis elavad, neile ikka mõjub kõvasti
21 April 2017 13:20
Margus Meigo commented on Kohila Pikk's post.
Group: Punk pole punane
kui see vaid nii lihtne oleks21 April 2017 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kahjuks seda aimama ei saa,
ei mina ega saa
kui sõnaotseses mõttes on see
lyhikene KGB esee
http://picosong.com/c6Pd/
ei mina ega saa
kui sõnaotseses mõttes on see
lyhikene KGB esee
http://picosong.com/c6Pd/
21 April 2017 02:45
Margus Meigo replied to Epp Trilla's comment.
irw xD
21 April 2017 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to Daniel Cz's comment.
tegelikult me peaksime sellest pervertsusest ülesaama ja ajukretiinsusest, et lipsu ja väär rõivastust viisakaks heas mõttes nimetame, EestLastel on vaja areneda normaalsete, arenenud iidsete kosmiliste olendite sekka, sinna lipsuga kuidagi ei jõua
21 April 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo commented on Johanna Maria Paulson's photo.
Õige vend kes lipsu ei kanna!
Nii naljalt ennast maha ei lase müüa ikka lipsu tritkatjatel
Nii naljalt ennast maha ei lase müüa ikka lipsu tritkatjatel
21 April 2017 02:35
Margus Meigo commented on Michael Dickinson's post.
21 April 2017 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
21 April 2017 02:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and so Hawaii is under constant Whiskey time
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/w
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/w
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/w
21 April 2017 02:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Yankee Time Zone is often used in aviation and the military as another name for UTC -12. Yankee Time Zone is also commonly used at sea between longitudes 172.5° East and 172.5° West.
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/y
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/y
21 April 2017 02:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Just reminding, there is still a lot of time:
Anywhere on Earth (AoE) is 12 hours behind Coordinated Universal Time (UTC). This time zone is in use during standard time in: Pacific.
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/aoe
Anywhere on Earth (AoE) is 12 hours behind Coordinated Universal Time (UTC). This time zone is in use during standard time in: Pacific.
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/aoe
21 April 2017 02:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
not MY cat really, as she owns her self, just sharing living place
21 April 2017 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on Bernardo Terenzi's post.
kind of like me and my cat
21 April 2017 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on Bernardo Terenzi's post.
unbelievable balls
or lack of something
or lack of something
21 April 2017 01:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i would just wish they would not put sportsman together with real archives of some skill, that is needed for humanity on the level as others,
Also the actors,
yes also important but should be in separate group with singers, and perhaps art also for now.
But art does need at times REAL art and some acting is REAL work, and some songs do make REAL change... but what about first looking the real different kind of people works, who made peace and tools possible that we use now.
And sport man.. well, sorry for some to say that, but there should be totally separate category for that. Luckily robots will take this sport things soon away from us so this perhaps limits the waste of spiritual energy related to it.
This is totally rational, taking a lot of importance in to account and try hard not to insult anyone
Also the actors,
yes also important but should be in separate group with singers, and perhaps art also for now.
But art does need at times REAL art and some acting is REAL work, and some songs do make REAL change... but what about first looking the real different kind of people works, who made peace and tools possible that we use now.
And sport man.. well, sorry for some to say that, but there should be totally separate category for that. Luckily robots will take this sport things soon away from us so this perhaps limits the waste of spiritual energy related to it.
This is totally rational, taking a lot of importance in to account and try hard not to insult anyone
21 April 2017 00:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Other dates:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_20
http://www.onthisday.com/events/april/20
http://www.on-this-day.com/onthisday/thedays/alldays/apr20.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_20
http://www.onthisday.com/events/april/20
http://www.on-this-day.com/onthisday/thedays/alldays/apr20.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_20
20 April 2017 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
If You change the "suvorov13/" to another number... 1...2...7... etc then you get access to other writings,
google translation needed for some, some in English (6, 8)
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov13/index.htmlhttp://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov13/index.html
20 April 2017 23:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Hobo Hilton
Who was with him as we know ?
Names now, please20 April 2017 23:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Hobo Hilton
as we say.. it does take a LOT of drugs to get Tom go sick...
So who do we know, who supplied him with last tools ??20 April 2017 23:50
Margus Meigo commented on Michael Dickinson's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
He was not Comrade, he despised in hear the communists from long talks we had.
But he does know long "getting in to" work what was around him,
Luckily a lot is saved in many people minds and tools, but the main point of it: What did we learn from it20 April 2017 23:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
well, and all that before the proper other spy Intel networks : )
20 April 2017 23:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
If the reader had access to real dossiers on the secret agents of spetsnaz he would be disappointed and probably shocked, because the agents of spetsnaz bear no resemblance to the fine, upstanding, young and handsome heroes of spy films. Soviet military intelligence is looking for an entirely different type of person as a candidate for recruitment. A portrait of an ideal agent for spetsnaz emerges something like this: a man of between fifty-five and sixty-five years of age who has never served in the army, never had access to secret documents, does not carry or own a weapon, knows nothing about hand-to-hand fighting, does not possess any secret equipment and doesn't support the Comunists, does not read the newspapers, was never in the Soviet Union and has never met any Soviet citizens, leads a lonely, introspective life, far from other people, and is by profession a forester, fisherman, lighthouse-keeper, security guard or railwayman. In many cases such an agent will be a physical invalid. Spetsnaz is also on the lookout for women with roughly the same characteristics.
If spetsnaz has such a person in its network, that means: a. that he is certainly not under any suspicion on the part of the local police or security services; b. that in the event of any enquiries being made he will be the last person to be suspected; c. that there is practically nothing by which any suspicions could be confirmed, which in turn means that in peacetime the agent is almost totally guaranteed against the danger of failure or arrest; d. that in the event of war he will remain in the same place as he was in peacetime and not be taken into the army or the public service under the wartime mobilisation.
All this gives the spetsnaz agent network tremendous stability and vitality. There are, of course, exceptions to every rule, and in the rules of intelligence gathering there are a lot of exceptions. You can come across many different kinds of people among the agents of spetsnaz, but still spetsnaz tries mainly to recruit people of just that type. What use are they to the organisation?
The answer is that they are formidably useful. The fact is that the acts of terrorism are carried out in the main by the professional athletes of spetsnaz who have been excellently trained for handling the most difficult missions. But the spetsnaz professionals have a lot of enemies when they get into a foreign country: helicopters and police dogs, the checking of documents at the roadside, patrols, even children playing in the street who miss very little and understand a lot. The spetsnaz commandos need shelter where they can rest for a few days in relative peace, where they can leave their heavy equipment and cook their own food.
So the principal task of spetsnaz agents is to prepare a safe hiding place in advance, long before the commandos arrive in the country. These are some examples of hiding places prepared by spetsnaz agents. With GRU money a pensioner who is actually a spetsnaz agent buys a house on the outskirts of a town, and close to a big forest. In the house he builds, quite legally, a nuclear shelter with electric light, drains, water supply and a store of food. He then buys a car of a semi-military or military type, a Land Rover for example, which is kept permanently in the garage of the house along with a good store of petrol. With that the agent's work is done. He lives quietly, makes use of his country house and car, and in addition is paid for his services. He knows that at any moment he may have 'guests' in his house. But that doesn't frighten him. In case of arrest he can say that the commando troops seized him as a hostage and made use of his house, his shelter and car.
If spetsnaz has such a person in its network, that means: a. that he is certainly not under any suspicion on the part of the local police or security services; b. that in the event of any enquiries being made he will be the last person to be suspected; c. that there is practically nothing by which any suspicions could be confirmed, which in turn means that in peacetime the agent is almost totally guaranteed against the danger of failure or arrest; d. that in the event of war he will remain in the same place as he was in peacetime and not be taken into the army or the public service under the wartime mobilisation.
All this gives the spetsnaz agent network tremendous stability and vitality. There are, of course, exceptions to every rule, and in the rules of intelligence gathering there are a lot of exceptions. You can come across many different kinds of people among the agents of spetsnaz, but still spetsnaz tries mainly to recruit people of just that type. What use are they to the organisation?
The answer is that they are formidably useful. The fact is that the acts of terrorism are carried out in the main by the professional athletes of spetsnaz who have been excellently trained for handling the most difficult missions. But the spetsnaz professionals have a lot of enemies when they get into a foreign country: helicopters and police dogs, the checking of documents at the roadside, patrols, even children playing in the street who miss very little and understand a lot. The spetsnaz commandos need shelter where they can rest for a few days in relative peace, where they can leave their heavy equipment and cook their own food.
So the principal task of spetsnaz agents is to prepare a safe hiding place in advance, long before the commandos arrive in the country. These are some examples of hiding places prepared by spetsnaz agents. With GRU money a pensioner who is actually a spetsnaz agent buys a house on the outskirts of a town, and close to a big forest. In the house he builds, quite legally, a nuclear shelter with electric light, drains, water supply and a store of food. He then buys a car of a semi-military or military type, a Land Rover for example, which is kept permanently in the garage of the house along with a good store of petrol. With that the agent's work is done. He lives quietly, makes use of his country house and car, and in addition is paid for his services. He knows that at any moment he may have 'guests' in his house. But that doesn't frighten him. In case of arrest he can say that the commando troops seized him as a hostage and made use of his house, his shelter and car.
20 April 2017 23:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Agent Network
Soviet military intelligence controls an enormous number of secret agents, who in this context, are foreigners who have been recruited by the Soviet intelligence services and who carry out tasks for those services. They can be divided into two networks, the strategic and the operational. The first is recruited by the central apparat of the GRU and the GRU's numerous branches within the country and abroad. It works for the General Staff of the armed forces of the USSR and its agents are recruited mainly in the capitals of hostile states or in Moscow. The second is recruited by the intelligence directorates of fronts, fleets, groups of forces, military districts and the intelligence departments of armies and flotillas, independently of the central GRU apparat, and its agents serve the needs of a particular front, fleet, army and so on. They are recruited mainly from the territory of the Soviet Union or from countries friendly to it.
The division of agents into strategic and operational networks does not in any way indicate a difference in quality. The central apparat of the GRU naturally has many more agents than any military district group of forces, in fact more than all the fleets, military district armies and so forth put together. They are, broadly speaking, people who have direct access to official secrets. Nevertheless the operational network has also frequently obtained information of interest not just to local commanders but also to the top Soviet leadership.
The main places where spetsnaz looks out for likely candidates for recruitment are: major ports visited by foreign tourists; and among foreign students. Spetsnaz examines the correspondence of Soviet citizens and of citizens of the satellite countries and listens in to the telephone conversations in the hope of coming across interesting contacts between Soviet and East European citizens and people living in countries that spetsnaz is interested in. Usually a foreign person who has been recruited can be persuaded to recruit several other people who may never have been in the Soviet Union or had any contact with Soviet citizens. It sometimes happens that spetsnaz officers turn up in somebody else's territory and recruit agents. Most of them do not have diplomatic cover and do not recruit agents in the capital cities, but drop off from Soviet merchant and fishing vessels in foreign ports and appear in the foreign country as drivers of Soviet trucks, Aeroflot pilots or stewards of Soviet trains. One proven place for recruiting is a Soviet cruise ship: two weeks at sea, vodka, caviar, the dolce vita, pleasant company and the ability to talk without fearing the local police.
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov13/08.html
Soviet military intelligence controls an enormous number of secret agents, who in this context, are foreigners who have been recruited by the Soviet intelligence services and who carry out tasks for those services. They can be divided into two networks, the strategic and the operational. The first is recruited by the central apparat of the GRU and the GRU's numerous branches within the country and abroad. It works for the General Staff of the armed forces of the USSR and its agents are recruited mainly in the capitals of hostile states or in Moscow. The second is recruited by the intelligence directorates of fronts, fleets, groups of forces, military districts and the intelligence departments of armies and flotillas, independently of the central GRU apparat, and its agents serve the needs of a particular front, fleet, army and so on. They are recruited mainly from the territory of the Soviet Union or from countries friendly to it.
The division of agents into strategic and operational networks does not in any way indicate a difference in quality. The central apparat of the GRU naturally has many more agents than any military district group of forces, in fact more than all the fleets, military district armies and so forth put together. They are, broadly speaking, people who have direct access to official secrets. Nevertheless the operational network has also frequently obtained information of interest not just to local commanders but also to the top Soviet leadership.
The main places where spetsnaz looks out for likely candidates for recruitment are: major ports visited by foreign tourists; and among foreign students. Spetsnaz examines the correspondence of Soviet citizens and of citizens of the satellite countries and listens in to the telephone conversations in the hope of coming across interesting contacts between Soviet and East European citizens and people living in countries that spetsnaz is interested in. Usually a foreign person who has been recruited can be persuaded to recruit several other people who may never have been in the Soviet Union or had any contact with Soviet citizens. It sometimes happens that spetsnaz officers turn up in somebody else's territory and recruit agents. Most of them do not have diplomatic cover and do not recruit agents in the capital cities, but drop off from Soviet merchant and fishing vessels in foreign ports and appear in the foreign country as drivers of Soviet trucks, Aeroflot pilots or stewards of Soviet trains. One proven place for recruiting is a Soviet cruise ship: two weeks at sea, vodka, caviar, the dolce vita, pleasant company and the ability to talk without fearing the local police.
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov13/08.html
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov13/08.html
20 April 2017 23:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Also:
Суворов В. Ледокол: Кто начал Вторую мировую войну? — М., 1992
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov1/index.html
Суворов В. День М: Когда началась Вторая мировая война? М.,1994
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov2/index.html
Суворов В. Последняя республика: Почему Советский Союз проиграл Вторую мировую войну. М., 1995
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov3/index.html
Издание: Суворов В. Очищение: Зачем Сталин обезглавил свою армию? — М.: АСТ, 1999
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov4/index.html
Издание: Суворов В. Самоубийство: Зачем Гитлер напал на Советский Союз? — М.:АСТ, 2000
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov5/index.html
Суворов В. Тень победы. — М.:АСТ, 2002
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov7/index.html
Суворов В. Освободитель. — М.: Конец света, 1993
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov9/index.html
Суворов В. Спецназ. @ Библиотека Мошкова (lib.ru), 2004
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov10/index.html
Суворов В. Тень победы-2. @ Suvorov.com, 2005
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov11/index.html
Suvorov V. Inside the Soviet Army. — New York, N.Y.: Macmillan, 1982.
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov12/index.html
Суворов В. Спецназ. @ Библиотека Мошкова (lib.ru), 2004
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov13/index.html
Суворов В. Ледокол: Кто начал Вторую мировую войну? — М., 1992
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov1/index.html
Суворов В. День М: Когда началась Вторая мировая война? М.,1994
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov2/index.html
Суворов В. Последняя республика: Почему Советский Союз проиграл Вторую мировую войну. М., 1995
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov3/index.html
Издание: Суворов В. Очищение: Зачем Сталин обезглавил свою армию? — М.: АСТ, 1999
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov4/index.html
Издание: Суворов В. Самоубийство: Зачем Гитлер напал на Советский Союз? — М.:АСТ, 2000
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov5/index.html
Суворов В. Тень победы. — М.:АСТ, 2002
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov7/index.html
Суворов В. Освободитель. — М.: Конец света, 1993
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov9/index.html
Суворов В. Спецназ. @ Библиотека Мошкова (lib.ru), 2004
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov10/index.html
Суворов В. Тень победы-2. @ Suvorov.com, 2005
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov11/index.html
Suvorov V. Inside the Soviet Army. — New York, N.Y.: Macmillan, 1982.
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov12/index.html
Суворов В. Спецназ. @ Библиотека Мошкова (lib.ru), 2004
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov13/index.html
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov1/index.html
20 April 2017 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Full read:
Chapter 1. Spades and Men
Chapter 2. Spetsnaz and the GRU
Chapter 3. A History of Spetsnaz
Chapter 4. The Fighting Units of Spetsnaz
Chapter 5. The 'Other People'
Chapter 6. Athletes
Chapter 7. Selection and Training
Chapter 8. The Agent Network
Chapter 9. Weapons and Equipment
Chapter 10. Battle Training
Chapter 11. Behind Enemy Lines: Spetsnaz Tactics
Chapter 12. Control and Combined Operations
Chapter 13. Spetsnaz and Deception
Chapter 14. Future Prospects
Chapter 15. Spetsnaz's First World War
Appendices
Suvorov Viktor *
Spetsnaz. The Story Behind the Soviet SAS
Сайт «Военная литература»: militera.lib.ru
Издание: Suvorov V. Spetsnaz. The Story Behind the Soviet SAS. — Hamish Hamilton Ltd, 1987.
Книга на сайте: http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/index.html
Книга одним файлом: http://militera.lib.ru/research/0/one/suvorov6.rar
Источник: Библиотека Максима Мошкова (lib.ru)
OCR, правка: MadMax
Дополнительная обработка: Hoaxer (hoaxer@mail.ru)
* По-настоящему — Резун Владимир Богданович.
Suvorov V. Spetsnaz: the story behind the Soviet SAS. (Translated from the Russian by David Floyd). — London, GB: H. Hamilton, 1987. - v+213+[8] p., ill.
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/index.html
Chapter 1. Spades and Men
Chapter 2. Spetsnaz and the GRU
Chapter 3. A History of Spetsnaz
Chapter 4. The Fighting Units of Spetsnaz
Chapter 5. The 'Other People'
Chapter 6. Athletes
Chapter 7. Selection and Training
Chapter 8. The Agent Network
Chapter 9. Weapons and Equipment
Chapter 10. Battle Training
Chapter 11. Behind Enemy Lines: Spetsnaz Tactics
Chapter 12. Control and Combined Operations
Chapter 13. Spetsnaz and Deception
Chapter 14. Future Prospects
Chapter 15. Spetsnaz's First World War
Appendices
Suvorov Viktor *
Spetsnaz. The Story Behind the Soviet SAS
Сайт «Военная литература»: militera.lib.ru
Издание: Suvorov V. Spetsnaz. The Story Behind the Soviet SAS. — Hamish Hamilton Ltd, 1987.
Книга на сайте: http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/index.html
Книга одним файлом: http://militera.lib.ru/research/0/one/suvorov6.rar
Источник: Библиотека Максима Мошкова (lib.ru)
OCR, правка: MadMax
Дополнительная обработка: Hoaxer (hoaxer@mail.ru)
* По-настоящему — Резун Владимир Богданович.
Suvorov V. Spetsnaz: the story behind the Soviet SAS. (Translated from the Russian by David Floyd). — London, GB: H. Hamilton, 1987. - v+213+[8] p., ill.
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/index.html
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/index.html
20 April 2017 23:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Full read: inside Soviet Military Intelligence
PART ONE
Chapter 1. The Triumvirate
Chapter 2. History
Chapter 3. The Pyramid
Chapter 4. The GRU and the Military Industrial Commission (VPK)
Chapter 5. But Why is Nothing Known about it?
Chapter 6. The GRU and the 'Younger Brothers'
Chapter 7. The GRU and the KGB
Chapter 8. The Centre
Chapter 9. The Procurement Organs
Chapter 10. Fleet Intelligence
Chapter 11. The GRU Processing Organs
Chapter 12. Support Services
PART TWO
Chapter 1. Illegals
Chapter 2. The Undercover Residency
Chapter 3. Agents
Chapter 4. Agent Recruiting
Chapter 5. Agent Communications
Chapter 6. The Practice of Agent Work
Chapter 7. Operational Intelligence
Chapter 8. Tactical Reconnaissance
Chapter 9. The Training and Privileges of Personnel
Conclusion
For GRU Officers Only
Appendix A: Leaders of Soviet Military Intelligence
Appendix B: The GRU High Command and Leading GRU Officers
Appendix C: Some Case Histories of GRU Activities
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inside Soviet Military Intelligence
Сайт «Военная литература»: militera.lib.ru
Издание: Suvorov V. Inside Soviet Military Intelligence. — London: MacMillan Publishing Company, 1984.
Книга на сайте: http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov8/index.html
Книга одним файлом: http://militera.lib.ru/research/0/one/suvorov8.rar
Источник: Библиотека Максима Мошкова (lib.ru)
OCR, правка: MadMax
Дополнительная обработка: Hoaxer (hoaxer@mail.ru)
Суворов Виктор. Советская военная разведка: взгляд изнутри. ISBN 0-02-615510-9
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov8/index.html
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/index.html
PART ONE
Chapter 1. The Triumvirate
Chapter 2. History
Chapter 3. The Pyramid
Chapter 4. The GRU and the Military Industrial Commission (VPK)
Chapter 5. But Why is Nothing Known about it?
Chapter 6. The GRU and the 'Younger Brothers'
Chapter 7. The GRU and the KGB
Chapter 8. The Centre
Chapter 9. The Procurement Organs
Chapter 10. Fleet Intelligence
Chapter 11. The GRU Processing Organs
Chapter 12. Support Services
PART TWO
Chapter 1. Illegals
Chapter 2. The Undercover Residency
Chapter 3. Agents
Chapter 4. Agent Recruiting
Chapter 5. Agent Communications
Chapter 6. The Practice of Agent Work
Chapter 7. Operational Intelligence
Chapter 8. Tactical Reconnaissance
Chapter 9. The Training and Privileges of Personnel
Conclusion
For GRU Officers Only
Appendix A: Leaders of Soviet Military Intelligence
Appendix B: The GRU High Command and Leading GRU Officers
Appendix C: Some Case Histories of GRU Activities
---
inside Soviet Military Intelligence
Сайт «Военная литература»: militera.lib.ru
Издание: Suvorov V. Inside Soviet Military Intelligence. — London: MacMillan Publishing Company, 1984.
Книга на сайте: http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov8/index.html
Книга одним файлом: http://militera.lib.ru/research/0/one/suvorov8.rar
Источник: Библиотека Максима Мошкова (lib.ru)
OCR, правка: MadMax
Дополнительная обработка: Hoaxer (hoaxer@mail.ru)
Суворов Виктор. Советская военная разведка: взгляд изнутри. ISBN 0-02-615510-9
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov8/index.html
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/index.html
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov8/index.html
20 April 2017 23:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Who else.. let's see..
Viktor Suvorov, Vladimir Bogdanovich Rezu, April 20, 1947 in Barabash, Primorsky Krai
"Russian writer, an amateur historian regularly accused of historical revisionism and a former Soviet military intelligence officer who defected to the United Kingdom. Suvorov made his name writing Icebreaker and several follow-up books on history of World War II."
Rezun joined the Soviet mission to the United Nations Office at Geneva, working undercover for the Soviet military intelligence service (GRU) and achieving a rank of Captain
Suvorov made his name writing books about the Soviet Army, military intelligence, and special forces, including The Liberators,[4] Aquarium, Inside the Soviet Army,[ ] Inside Soviet Military Intelligence and Spetsnaz,[8] which were partly based on his personal experience. He also joined the team led by the British General Sir John Hackett in writing the book The Third World War: The Untold Story. ] Published in 1982, this book was the sequel to the 1978 original The Third World War,[10] in which Hackett and his team had speculated about the possible course of a Soviet/NATO war in Germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Suvorov
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov8/index.html
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/index.html
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/700261.Aquarium
Aquarium (Russian title Аквариум) is a partly autobiographical description by Viktor Suvorov of the GRU (Soviet military intelligence directorate).
// The book was initially released on June 1, 1985 by Hamish Hamilton (under "fiction")
The account starts in 1969, when Suvorov, as an ordinary tank company commander, is recruited into intelligence analysis by an up-and-coming Lieutenant Colonel. From there he transfers to Spetsnaz and, from there, into the GRU proper. A combination of circumstances lead to his eventual defection to the British.
The "Aquarium" of the title is the nickname given to GRU headquarters in Moscow by those who work there. "What sort of fish are there swimming there?" asks Suvorov of his boss when he learns about it. "There's only one kind there—piranhas."
A cinema film and a 4-part TV series on this book were made by a Polish-Ukrainian-German team in 1999. The film, entitled The Aquarium (Akwarium), was directed by Antoni Krauze and stars Jurij Smolskij, Janusz Gajos, Witold Pyrkosz, and Henryk Bista, is available in Polish with English subtitles.
Viktor Suvorov, Vladimir Bogdanovich Rezu, April 20, 1947 in Barabash, Primorsky Krai
"Russian writer, an amateur historian regularly accused of historical revisionism and a former Soviet military intelligence officer who defected to the United Kingdom. Suvorov made his name writing Icebreaker and several follow-up books on history of World War II."
Rezun joined the Soviet mission to the United Nations Office at Geneva, working undercover for the Soviet military intelligence service (GRU) and achieving a rank of Captain
Suvorov made his name writing books about the Soviet Army, military intelligence, and special forces, including The Liberators,[4] Aquarium, Inside the Soviet Army,[ ] Inside Soviet Military Intelligence and Spetsnaz,[8] which were partly based on his personal experience. He also joined the team led by the British General Sir John Hackett in writing the book The Third World War: The Untold Story. ] Published in 1982, this book was the sequel to the 1978 original The Third World War,[10] in which Hackett and his team had speculated about the possible course of a Soviet/NATO war in Germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Suvorov
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov8/index.html
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/index.html
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/700261.Aquarium
Aquarium (Russian title Аквариум) is a partly autobiographical description by Viktor Suvorov of the GRU (Soviet military intelligence directorate).
// The book was initially released on June 1, 1985 by Hamish Hamilton (under "fiction")
The account starts in 1969, when Suvorov, as an ordinary tank company commander, is recruited into intelligence analysis by an up-and-coming Lieutenant Colonel. From there he transfers to Spetsnaz and, from there, into the GRU proper. A combination of circumstances lead to his eventual defection to the British.
The "Aquarium" of the title is the nickname given to GRU headquarters in Moscow by those who work there. "What sort of fish are there swimming there?" asks Suvorov of his boss when he learns about it. "There's only one kind there—piranhas."
A cinema film and a 4-part TV series on this book were made by a Polish-Ukrainian-German team in 1999. The film, entitled The Aquarium (Akwarium), was directed by Antoni Krauze and stars Jurij Smolskij, Janusz Gajos, Witold Pyrkosz, and Henryk Bista, is available in Polish with English subtitles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Suvorov
20 April 2017 23:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ka meie Estonialaste kirjaniku Aimée Beekman 20. aprillil 1933 ja Urmas Paet 20 April 1974 Minister of Foreign Affairs / Minister of Culture who is in to LG rights now.
--
Romaanid
"Väikesed inimesed" (1964)
"Valgete vareste parv" (1967)
"Kartulikuljused" (1968)
"Väntorel" (1970)
"Vanad lapsed" (1972)
"Kuradilill" (1974)
"Viinakuu" (1975)
"Sugupuu" (1977)
"Valikuvõimalus" (1978)
"Tihnik" (1980)
"Vabajooks" (1982)
"Proovielu" (2008)
"Ulavere" (2009)
http://www.pegasus.ee/raamat/valikuvoimalus
ilus ja tark Regina tunneb end juba lootusetu vanatüdrukuna. Linnaelu esialgne sära ja põnevus on muutumas rutiiniks, sõbrannade võrgustik kisub tüütuks pseudoperekonnaks. Pärandusega saadud maja alevis paneb Regina valikuvõimaluse ette: kas teha julge otsus ja jätta oma senine elu või jätkata vanaviisi. Naine teeb valiku, mis järgmise sammuna viib ta mõtted perekonna loomisele ja tulevastel lastele. Õpetajana töötav naine aga ei soovi oma laste isaks meest, kelle järeltulijad võiks näiteks alkoholi või haiguste tõttu saada kaasa halvad geenid. Regina otsustab valida tavapärasest erineva võimaluse. See mis järgneb, on kas eksperiment või oma viis õnne otsida. Kuidas võtta.
„Valikuvõimalus” mõjutas tervet põlvkonda naisi, esitades väljakutse senisele abielumudelile. Kultusromaan parimas tähenduses.
Romaani põhjal valmis Tallinnfilmis 1989. aastal Kaljo Kiisa film „Regina”.
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Romaanid
"Väikesed inimesed" (1964)
"Valgete vareste parv" (1967)
"Kartulikuljused" (1968)
"Väntorel" (1970)
"Vanad lapsed" (1972)
"Kuradilill" (1974)
"Viinakuu" (1975)
"Sugupuu" (1977)
"Valikuvõimalus" (1978)
"Tihnik" (1980)
"Vabajooks" (1982)
"Proovielu" (2008)
"Ulavere" (2009)
http://www.pegasus.ee/raamat/valikuvoimalus
ilus ja tark Regina tunneb end juba lootusetu vanatüdrukuna. Linnaelu esialgne sära ja põnevus on muutumas rutiiniks, sõbrannade võrgustik kisub tüütuks pseudoperekonnaks. Pärandusega saadud maja alevis paneb Regina valikuvõimaluse ette: kas teha julge otsus ja jätta oma senine elu või jätkata vanaviisi. Naine teeb valiku, mis järgmise sammuna viib ta mõtted perekonna loomisele ja tulevastel lastele. Õpetajana töötav naine aga ei soovi oma laste isaks meest, kelle järeltulijad võiks näiteks alkoholi või haiguste tõttu saada kaasa halvad geenid. Regina otsustab valida tavapärasest erineva võimaluse. See mis järgneb, on kas eksperiment või oma viis õnne otsida. Kuidas võtta.
„Valikuvõimalus” mõjutas tervet põlvkonda naisi, esitades väljakutse senisele abielumudelile. Kultusromaan parimas tähenduses.
Romaani põhjal valmis Tallinnfilmis 1989. aastal Kaljo Kiisa film „Regina”.
20 April 2017 23:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Also: "Consummata" (the one Consumed by Love)
Marie-Antoinette de Geuser (known as "Consummata"; 20 April 1889 in Le Havre – 22 June 1918 in Le Havre)
There were several religious vocations in this family. Of two paternal uncles, one was in the Carthusian order and the other became a Canon. Two maternal uncles were Jesuits and an aunt became a Carmelite. Four of her brothers also became religious.
Marie Antoinette was, as a child, of a very fragile health. She nearly died in 1906 as a result of appendicitis.
It was during the summer of 1906 that she discerned her vocation: ' "on 21 September something happened that I cannot tell you exactly." […] This moment I no longer had any doubt: the light of my childhood was now something truly divine... I gave myself wholly to God. "" (letter of 15 June 1910 to the prior of the Carmel of Pontoise). On the 31 October following, she decided to now live the contemplative life.
More and more frequently she signed her letters in the name of "Consummata" (the one Consumed by Love).
--
Father Raoul Plus, a Jesuit, published in 1921 under the name of “Consummata” a collection of texts and extracts of her diaries and correspondence. The book has had numerous reissues.
In 1928, Father Plus revealed in a new book the actual name and a biography of Marie-Antoinette de Geuser.
Two years later, in 1930, there appeared a third book: " Letters from 'Consummata" to a Carmelite."( les Lettres de ‘‘Consummata’’ à une carmélite).
Together these three books gave Marie-Antoinette de Geuser great fame. Translations appeared in German, Spanish, Dutch, Italian, Portuguese, etc.
Her texts were read and appreciated by Edith Stein who carries them with her when she had to flee from Germany because of the Nazis, on December 31, 1938.
Hans Urs von Balthasar cites her many times under the name of Consummata in the diaries which were published in their final form in 1989 under the title 'Das Weizenkorn"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie-Antoinette_de_Geuser
Carmelite tradition traces the origin of the order to a community of hermits on Mount Carmel, which succeeded the schools of the prophets in ancient Israel or the Crusader states. There are no certain records of hermits on this mountain before the 1190s. By this date a group of men had gathered at the well of Elijah on Mount Carmel. These men, who had gone to Palestine from Europe either as pilgrims or as crusaders, chose Mount Carmel in part because it was the traditional home of Elijah.[5] The foundation is believed to have been dedicated to the Blessed Virgin Mary. (The Carmelites were forced to leave the site, and the Holy Land, in 1291. Their original conventual buildings were destroyed several times, but members of the order were able to return in the nineteenth century under the Ottoman Empire. A monastery of Discalced Carmelite friars was built close to the original site under the auspices of Fr. Julius of the Saviour and consecrated on 12 June 1836.)
Some time between 1206 and 1214 the hermits, about whom very little is known, approached St. Albert of Jerusalem, the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem and Papal legate, for a Rule.
¤¤¤ oOo ¤¤¤
The charism (or spiritual focus) of the Carmelite Order is contemplation. Carmelites understand contemplation in a broad sense encompassing prayer, community, and service. These three elements are at the heart of the Carmelite charism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmelites
Controversies with other orders
By the middle of the 17th century, the Carmelites had reached their zenith. At this period, however, they became involved in controversies with other orders, particularly with the Jesuits. The special objects of attack were the traditional origin of the Carmelites and the source of their scapular. The Sorbonne, represented by Jean Launoy, joined the Jesuits in their polemics against the Carmelites.
Papebroch, the Bollandist editor of the Acta Sanctorum, was answered by the Carmelite Sebastian of St. Paul, who made such serious charges against the orthodoxy of his opponent's writings that the very existence of the Bollandists was threatened. The peril was averted, however. In 1696 a decree of Juan Tomás de Rocaberti, archbishop of Valencia and inquisitor-general of the Holy Office, forbade all further controversies between the Carmelites and Jesuits. Two years later, on November 20, 1698, Pope Innocent XII issued a brief that definitely ended the controversy on pain of excommunication, and placed all writings in violation of the brief on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum.
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Carmelite Missions exist in Bolivia, Burkino Faso, Cameroon, Colombia, India, Kenya, Lithuania, Mexico, Mozambique, Peru, Romania, Tanzania, Trinidad, Venezuela and Zimbabwe.
Monasteries of enclosed Carmelite nuns exist in Brazil, Denmark, the Dominican Republic, Finland, Germany, Hungary, Indonesia, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Kenya, the Netherlands, New Zealand (in Christchurch since 1933), Nicaragua, Norway, Peru, the Philippines, Spain, Sweden, Portugal, the United Kingdom and the United States. Hermit communities of either men or women exist in Brazil, France, Indonesia, Lebanon, Italy and the United States.
___________
Abbreviation Order of Carmelites (O.Carm.)
Motto Zelo zelatus sum pro Domino Deo exercituum (Vulgate, 1 Kings 19:10;14)
("With zeal have I been
zealous for the Lord
God of hosts")
Formation Late 12th century
Type Roman Catholic religious order
Headquarters Via Giovanni Lanza,
Rome, Italy
Prior General
Most Rev. Fr. Fernando Millán Romeral
Website www.ocarm.org
Marie-Antoinette de Geuser (known as "Consummata"; 20 April 1889 in Le Havre – 22 June 1918 in Le Havre)
There were several religious vocations in this family. Of two paternal uncles, one was in the Carthusian order and the other became a Canon. Two maternal uncles were Jesuits and an aunt became a Carmelite. Four of her brothers also became religious.
Marie Antoinette was, as a child, of a very fragile health. She nearly died in 1906 as a result of appendicitis.
It was during the summer of 1906 that she discerned her vocation: ' "on 21 September something happened that I cannot tell you exactly." […] This moment I no longer had any doubt: the light of my childhood was now something truly divine... I gave myself wholly to God. "" (letter of 15 June 1910 to the prior of the Carmel of Pontoise). On the 31 October following, she decided to now live the contemplative life.
More and more frequently she signed her letters in the name of "Consummata" (the one Consumed by Love).
--
Father Raoul Plus, a Jesuit, published in 1921 under the name of “Consummata” a collection of texts and extracts of her diaries and correspondence. The book has had numerous reissues.
In 1928, Father Plus revealed in a new book the actual name and a biography of Marie-Antoinette de Geuser.
Two years later, in 1930, there appeared a third book: " Letters from 'Consummata" to a Carmelite."( les Lettres de ‘‘Consummata’’ à une carmélite).
Together these three books gave Marie-Antoinette de Geuser great fame. Translations appeared in German, Spanish, Dutch, Italian, Portuguese, etc.
Her texts were read and appreciated by Edith Stein who carries them with her when she had to flee from Germany because of the Nazis, on December 31, 1938.
Hans Urs von Balthasar cites her many times under the name of Consummata in the diaries which were published in their final form in 1989 under the title 'Das Weizenkorn"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie-Antoinette_de_Geuser
Carmelite tradition traces the origin of the order to a community of hermits on Mount Carmel, which succeeded the schools of the prophets in ancient Israel or the Crusader states. There are no certain records of hermits on this mountain before the 1190s. By this date a group of men had gathered at the well of Elijah on Mount Carmel. These men, who had gone to Palestine from Europe either as pilgrims or as crusaders, chose Mount Carmel in part because it was the traditional home of Elijah.[5] The foundation is believed to have been dedicated to the Blessed Virgin Mary. (The Carmelites were forced to leave the site, and the Holy Land, in 1291. Their original conventual buildings were destroyed several times, but members of the order were able to return in the nineteenth century under the Ottoman Empire. A monastery of Discalced Carmelite friars was built close to the original site under the auspices of Fr. Julius of the Saviour and consecrated on 12 June 1836.)
Some time between 1206 and 1214 the hermits, about whom very little is known, approached St. Albert of Jerusalem, the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem and Papal legate, for a Rule.
¤¤¤ oOo ¤¤¤
The charism (or spiritual focus) of the Carmelite Order is contemplation. Carmelites understand contemplation in a broad sense encompassing prayer, community, and service. These three elements are at the heart of the Carmelite charism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmelites
Controversies with other orders
By the middle of the 17th century, the Carmelites had reached their zenith. At this period, however, they became involved in controversies with other orders, particularly with the Jesuits. The special objects of attack were the traditional origin of the Carmelites and the source of their scapular. The Sorbonne, represented by Jean Launoy, joined the Jesuits in their polemics against the Carmelites.
Papebroch, the Bollandist editor of the Acta Sanctorum, was answered by the Carmelite Sebastian of St. Paul, who made such serious charges against the orthodoxy of his opponent's writings that the very existence of the Bollandists was threatened. The peril was averted, however. In 1696 a decree of Juan Tomás de Rocaberti, archbishop of Valencia and inquisitor-general of the Holy Office, forbade all further controversies between the Carmelites and Jesuits. Two years later, on November 20, 1698, Pope Innocent XII issued a brief that definitely ended the controversy on pain of excommunication, and placed all writings in violation of the brief on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum.
--
Carmelite Missions exist in Bolivia, Burkino Faso, Cameroon, Colombia, India, Kenya, Lithuania, Mexico, Mozambique, Peru, Romania, Tanzania, Trinidad, Venezuela and Zimbabwe.
Monasteries of enclosed Carmelite nuns exist in Brazil, Denmark, the Dominican Republic, Finland, Germany, Hungary, Indonesia, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Kenya, the Netherlands, New Zealand (in Christchurch since 1933), Nicaragua, Norway, Peru, the Philippines, Spain, Sweden, Portugal, the United Kingdom and the United States. Hermit communities of either men or women exist in Brazil, France, Indonesia, Lebanon, Italy and the United States.
___________
Abbreviation Order of Carmelites (O.Carm.)
Motto Zelo zelatus sum pro Domino Deo exercituum (Vulgate, 1 Kings 19:10;14)
("With zeal have I been
zealous for the Lord
God of hosts")
Formation Late 12th century
Type Roman Catholic religious order
Headquarters Via Giovanni Lanza,
Rome, Italy
Prior General
Most Rev. Fr. Fernando Millán Romeral
Website www.ocarm.org
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie-Antoinette_de_Geuser
20 April 2017 23:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
full transcript of that would be nice
20 April 2017 22:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
So yea,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04UkOw9NpSU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04UkOw9NpSU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04UkOw9NpSU
20 April 2017 22:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Also Nice colors
Really nice!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04UkOw9NpSU
Really nice!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04UkOw9NpSU
20 April 2017 22:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9xhwvQ5ux8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9xhwvQ5ux8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9xhwvQ5ux8
20 April 2017 22:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jacques Offenbach - Orpheus in the Underworld Overture
on my cassette : Orfeus | Underjourden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4hs7vW8SV0
on my cassette : Orfeus | Underjourden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4hs7vW8SV0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4hs7vW8SV0
20 April 2017 22:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
argh, again Youtube video not enabled.. to play !!! Arrgh!
(okey, not bothering anymore but still.. bothering)
(okey, not bothering anymore but still.. bothering)
20 April 2017 22:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
The other Casette
Beethoven - 7th Symphony (Complete) ✔
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MqrBauptrE
Beethoven - 7th Symphony (Complete) ✔
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MqrBauptrE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MqrBauptrE
20 April 2017 22:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Jacques Offenbach "La belle Hélène" Overture
..marked on my Cassette as: Sköna Helena
Recognizable by minute 7.20 / .. but yea it did feel a bit more pleasantly slower some how in cassette, who knows.
Cassette was so old, it broke after last play, will try to fix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3QGJVjBvAA
..marked on my Cassette as: Sköna Helena
Recognizable by minute 7.20 / .. but yea it did feel a bit more pleasantly slower some how in cassette, who knows.
Cassette was so old, it broke after last play, will try to fix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3QGJVjBvAA
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/U3QGJVjBvAA/hqdefault.jpg
20 April 2017 22:16
Margus Meigo commented on Luján Frank Maraschio's post.
Group: Exploring Central Intelligence Agency
we need to help to figure out how to provide food and help to Korea to become calm land not worry about their strikes20 April 2017 16:47
Margus Meigo commented on Luján Frank Maraschio's post.
Group: Exploring Central Intelligence Agency
sure they do20 April 2017 16:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i al the time thought i am the one who will do it
18 April 2017 10:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
why they need to be seperate, the 144 ?
18 April 2017 10:55
Margus Meigo commented on Bianca Kõivumägi's post.
:(
18 April 2017 06:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ut still whatever harmless makes u happy and gives life inspiration, keep up the good spirit and positive creation
18 April 2017 06:00
Margus Meigo commented on Kim Marcussen's post.
yeah, so many try to imagine as Jehovah Witness in these days about 144 000 ...a bit selfish innit
18 April 2017 05:59
Margus Meigo commented on Bleach Uknwme's video.
Ya just have to become more humble, then it becomes better
18 April 2017 01:51
Margus Meigo commented on Brandon Tachibana's post.
Group: Poetry Universe
Keep it up!18 April 2017 01:48
Margus Meigo commented on Sidney Lilly's post.
Group: Facebook Famous Worldwide😱💯
no sicaretos, herbs only Boss18 April 2017 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
#ReALArt
18 April 2017 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
muidugi üpilti nad kaasa ei lisanud... ei saa aru sellistest ajakirjanikest
18 April 2017 01:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi FB otsustas, et selle laullu teeme MITTE mängivaks, et play nupp otse eitöötaks, nu on..
17 April 2017 22:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The organization Mayors for Peace was created by the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1982
Development of the 2020 Vision Campaign (Emergency Campaign to Ban Nuclear Weapons)
Following U.S. President Obama’s speech in Prague last April for a world without nuclear weapons, the UN Security Council passed a resolution for the abolition of nuclear weapons and the U.S. and Russia concluded a new START treaty, among many other developments that show a worldwide movement for the elimination of nuclear weapons has been set in motion.
In the midst of this movement, Mayors for Peace has been promoting the 2020 Vision Campaign (Emergency Campaign to Ban Nuclear Weapons), originally launched in the fall of 2003, for the total abolition of nuclear weapons by the year 2020. This campaign has received support from numerous prestigious organizations, including the EU Parliament, the U.S. Conference of Mayors (USCM), International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War (IPPNW), the National Conference of Black Mayors, the World Assembly of United Cities and Local Governments (UCLG), the Japan Association of City Mayors, and the National Council of Japan Nuclear-Free Local Authoritie
http://www.city.hiroshima.lg.jp/shimin/heiwa/abolition.html
Development of the 2020 Vision Campaign (Emergency Campaign to Ban Nuclear Weapons)
Following U.S. President Obama’s speech in Prague last April for a world without nuclear weapons, the UN Security Council passed a resolution for the abolition of nuclear weapons and the U.S. and Russia concluded a new START treaty, among many other developments that show a worldwide movement for the elimination of nuclear weapons has been set in motion.
In the midst of this movement, Mayors for Peace has been promoting the 2020 Vision Campaign (Emergency Campaign to Ban Nuclear Weapons), originally launched in the fall of 2003, for the total abolition of nuclear weapons by the year 2020. This campaign has received support from numerous prestigious organizations, including the EU Parliament, the U.S. Conference of Mayors (USCM), International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War (IPPNW), the National Conference of Black Mayors, the World Assembly of United Cities and Local Governments (UCLG), the Japan Association of City Mayors, and the National Council of Japan Nuclear-Free Local Authoritie
http://www.city.hiroshima.lg.jp/shimin/heiwa/abolition.html
http://www.city.hiroshima.lg.jp/shimin/heiwa/abolition.html
17 April 2017 05:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1983 to keep just in case birth away
// what kind of mistake on wrong time it can be next time
"The year was 1983 and - as a history documentary in a primetime slot on Channel 4 next weekend vividly shows - the next six weeks would be the most dangerous the world has ever experienced.
That the U. S. and the Soviet Union had been on the brink of world war in 1962, when John Kennedy and Nikita Krushchev went head-to-head over missiles in Cuba, is well known. Those events were played out in public. The 1983 crisis went on behind closed doors, in a world of spies and secrets.
A quarter of a century later, the gnarled old veterans of the KGB, the Soviet Union's secret service, and their smoother counterparts from the CIA, the U.S. equivalent, have come out from the shadows to reveal the full story of what happened. And a chilling one it is. From their different perspectives, they knew the seriousness of the situation. "
" t was a game of nerves, of bluff and counterbluff. Who would fire first? Would the other have the chance to retaliate?
The flying time of an inter-continental ballistic missile, from the U.S. to the USSR, and vice-versa, was around 12 minutes. If the Cold War were ever to go 'hot', seconds could make the difference between life and death.
Everything would hinge on snap decisions. For now, though, as far as Petrov was concerned, more hinged on just getting through another boring night in which nothing ever happened.
Except then, suddenly, it did. A warning light flashed up, screaming red letters on a white background - 'LAUNCH. LAUNCH'. Deafening sirens wailed. The computer was telling him that the U.S. had just gone to war. "
" The alert on September 26th, 1983 had been a false one. Later, it was discovered that what the satellite's sensors had picked up and interpreted as missiles in flight was nothing more than high-altitude clouds.
Petrov's cool head had saved the world.
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there is one other time paperclip fall in to US systems and almost launched full attack on Russia also, just before they discovered it was test program error..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-505009/September-26th-1983-The-day-world-died.html
// what kind of mistake on wrong time it can be next time
"The year was 1983 and - as a history documentary in a primetime slot on Channel 4 next weekend vividly shows - the next six weeks would be the most dangerous the world has ever experienced.
That the U. S. and the Soviet Union had been on the brink of world war in 1962, when John Kennedy and Nikita Krushchev went head-to-head over missiles in Cuba, is well known. Those events were played out in public. The 1983 crisis went on behind closed doors, in a world of spies and secrets.
A quarter of a century later, the gnarled old veterans of the KGB, the Soviet Union's secret service, and their smoother counterparts from the CIA, the U.S. equivalent, have come out from the shadows to reveal the full story of what happened. And a chilling one it is. From their different perspectives, they knew the seriousness of the situation. "
" t was a game of nerves, of bluff and counterbluff. Who would fire first? Would the other have the chance to retaliate?
The flying time of an inter-continental ballistic missile, from the U.S. to the USSR, and vice-versa, was around 12 minutes. If the Cold War were ever to go 'hot', seconds could make the difference between life and death.
Everything would hinge on snap decisions. For now, though, as far as Petrov was concerned, more hinged on just getting through another boring night in which nothing ever happened.
Except then, suddenly, it did. A warning light flashed up, screaming red letters on a white background - 'LAUNCH. LAUNCH'. Deafening sirens wailed. The computer was telling him that the U.S. had just gone to war. "
" The alert on September 26th, 1983 had been a false one. Later, it was discovered that what the satellite's sensors had picked up and interpreted as missiles in flight was nothing more than high-altitude clouds.
Petrov's cool head had saved the world.
---
there is one other time paperclip fall in to US systems and almost launched full attack on Russia also, just before they discovered it was test program error..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-505009/September-26th-1983-The-day-world-died.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-505009/September-26th-1983-The-day-world-died.html
17 April 2017 04:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but it was all pre prophesied..
(robotic downfall)
But alright, is not As sad,a lot of Good has also emerged
(robotic downfall)
But alright, is not As sad,a lot of Good has also emerged
17 April 2017 03:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
omg, that's amazing, no wonder, it's 83!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezxZmidYPKo&index=2&list=RDALWzQUIENdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezxZmidYPKo&index=2&list=RDALWzQUIENdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezxZmidYPKo&index=2&list=RDALWzQUIENdc
17 April 2017 03:38
Margus Meigo replied to Brian David Vaughan's comment.
county man would not notice much of EMP.. up to point when city people flood farms to get food... many probably first time thinking from where food come and see the fields
but yea, some EMP would be needed at times, to remind us, what we are
but yea, some EMP would be needed at times, to remind us, what we are
17 April 2017 03:33
Margus Meigo replied to Brian David Vaughan's comment.
Brian David Vaughan Mexicans, Africans are probably surviving most, various ways ... besides the elite in bunkers up to the point they have to refill the food storage.. and meet the angry mob in MadMax style,
but yes lucky we that this is not needed and is possible to avoid
but yes lucky we that this is not needed and is possible to avoid
17 April 2017 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Wau
17 April 2017 01:42
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Lootus jääb, mitte, et sellepärast olla, et seda loota
17 April 2017 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Totalitarian Government & All Tyranny's: Applaud in appropriation of wisdom.
17 April 2017 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
"Famous last words of people who climb a tree"
17 April 2017 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
ignorance + evil = o shit..
17 April 2017 01:34
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Thats fine as welll :)
17 April 2017 01:33
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Peaasi, et nad pärast teada saavad, kes nähtamatud olid : )
17 April 2017 01:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// i not kidding You, some have to ask about same sex marriage top of most impotent announcement about Nuclear Resolution on 4:20 in video
// If Ukraine would have keep their one of the world largest arsenal perhaps then Russia would have not come to jump in there... or what
..not like Ukraine was getting promised protection, after the giving weapons away as was promised to them
https://youtu.be/Ou_oHYgMR9Y
// what about REALLY putting all these kind of weapons away if you REALLY agree they are bad .. but now.. it is because YOU partners are on level where others do not need to come.. to keep power..
// If Ukraine would have keep their one of the world largest arsenal perhaps then Russia would have not come to jump in there... or what
..not like Ukraine was getting promised protection, after the giving weapons away as was promised to them
https://youtu.be/Ou_oHYgMR9Y
// what about REALLY putting all these kind of weapons away if you REALLY agree they are bad .. but now.. it is because YOU partners are on level where others do not need to come.. to keep power..
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ou_oHYgMR9Y/hqdefault.jpg
16 April 2017 22:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// yea these papers matter a lot, innit...not.
// it was like we are on verge of evolution, barely.
"After a total of 715 nuclear tests, the Russian Federation signed the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty (CTBT) on 24 September 1996, the very day it opened for signature, and ratified it on 30 June 2000."
https://www.ctbto.org/the-treaty/1993-1996-treaty-negotiations/1996-ctbt-a-long-sought-success/
// it was like we are on verge of evolution, barely.
"After a total of 715 nuclear tests, the Russian Federation signed the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty (CTBT) on 24 September 1996, the very day it opened for signature, and ratified it on 30 June 2000."
https://www.ctbto.org/the-treaty/1993-1996-treaty-negotiations/1996-ctbt-a-long-sought-success/
https://www.ctbto.org/the-treaty/1993-1996-treaty-negotiations/1996-ctbt-a-long-sought-success/
16 April 2017 22:09
Margus Meigo replied to Brian David Vaughan's comment.
well, nature can swing a us 2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krakatoa people are still a bit nuts, they build their house there again:D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krakatoa people are still a bit nuts, they build their house there again:D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krakatoa
16 April 2017 22:05
Margus Meigo replied to Brian David Vaughan's comment.
i actually try to find the time table, of what times the waves around the world was detected, all 3 main ones for some needed calculations
16 April 2017 22:04
Margus Meigo replied to Brian David Vaughan's comment.
one main one is ongoing ignoring what are humans
and what are their reason to be here and what should we do
and what are their reason to be here and what should we do
16 April 2017 22:02
Margus Meigo replied to Brian David Vaughan's comment.
i know right, but there is still, much more dangerous things they working on that make me much more worry
hint: they not listed in here: https://defencyclopedia.com/2015/11/25/top-10-most-powerful-weapons-of-the-russian-military/
or here
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/new-top-10-future-weapons-of-the-world.130081/
hint: they not listed in here: https://defencyclopedia.com/2015/11/25/top-10-most-powerful-weapons-of-the-russian-military/
or here
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/new-top-10-future-weapons-of-the-world.130081/
http://defencyclopedia.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/tu22m3.jpg
16 April 2017 22:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but people will just say "of, its The Sun, it is normal, they are like that.."
16 April 2017 22:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
16 April 2017 21:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
at same time on parallel universe>: lets make nuclear sexy and fun
the sun... why not
gotta add screenshot on this one:.
"FEARS are mounting Vladimir Putin’s military have carried out a secret Arctic nuclear test after a huge spike in dangerous radiation levels were detected across Europe.
The worrying claims came as the US Air Force sent a special WC-135 Constant Phoenix – whose main mission is to detect and identify nuclear explosions from the air – to RAF Mildenhall."
" Along with monitoring nuke testing, the WC-135 is sometimes used to track radioactive activity as happened after the Chernobyl nuclear plant disaster in the then Soviet Union in 1986.
One of these aircraft was also deployed near North Korea in anticipation of Kim Jong-un’s controversial rocket launches in recent years.
Although they cross European airspace from time-to-time, their deployment to the UK is still rare.
And there has been no official statement from the US military about the reasons why it has been sent here.
Sources suggest the aircraft has been tasked with investigating the spike in radiation levels detected in northern Europe since January
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2915352/russia-nuclear-bombs-arctic-radioactive-particles-europe/
the sun... why not
gotta add screenshot on this one:.
"FEARS are mounting Vladimir Putin’s military have carried out a secret Arctic nuclear test after a huge spike in dangerous radiation levels were detected across Europe.
The worrying claims came as the US Air Force sent a special WC-135 Constant Phoenix – whose main mission is to detect and identify nuclear explosions from the air – to RAF Mildenhall."
" Along with monitoring nuke testing, the WC-135 is sometimes used to track radioactive activity as happened after the Chernobyl nuclear plant disaster in the then Soviet Union in 1986.
One of these aircraft was also deployed near North Korea in anticipation of Kim Jong-un’s controversial rocket launches in recent years.
Although they cross European airspace from time-to-time, their deployment to the UK is still rare.
And there has been no official statement from the US military about the reasons why it has been sent here.
Sources suggest the aircraft has been tasked with investigating the spike in radiation levels detected in northern Europe since January
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2915352/russia-nuclear-bombs-arctic-radioactive-particles-europe/
16 April 2017 21:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And effective tool, to calculate casualties and all,
oh thec tec age...
"106.8 million detonations and counting.. "
http://www.nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
oh thec tec age...
"106.8 million detonations and counting.. "
http://www.nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
16 April 2017 21:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
they even got website for a bob
http://www.tsarbomba.org/Tsar-Bomba-Charts.html
http://www.tsarbomba.org/Tsar-Bomba-Charts.html
http://www.tsarbomba.org/Tsar-Bomba-Charts.html
16 April 2017 21:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Scientists came to this conclusion"
// Current day, Russian scientists, IN THE end of page, mention,
after they investigate "UNUSUAL high levels of radiation.."
that,
as some other reasons, kind of contributing to it., might have been: "scientific research in the Soviet era provided a secondary source of nuclear contamination..:"
// yes seems the radiation must be high and altering mind a unusually high levels as well
In beginning, sounds like parody:
"Russian scientists have discovered unusually high levels of radiation on Severny Island, which is part of the Novaya Zemlya archipelago in the Kara Sea. Their findings were published in a recent edition of the journal Oceanology. The Russian Science Fund also announced the discovery in a press release, which was picked up by news website Lenta.ru.
According to the publications, extremely high levels of radioactive caesium were found on the edge of the Severny Island ice cap. Dust samples of material taken from the Goluboi glacier on the island exhibited an even higher level of radioactive caesium.
Northern exposure: Life in Norilsk, Russia's most polluted city
The presence of americium radionuclides in the samples indicates that the primary source of the nuclear contamination is nuclear explosions in the Earth’s atmosphere. Scientists came to this conclusion following an analysis of glaciological radiation in 2015 during an expedition by the research ship Akademik Mstislav Keldysh
http://rbth.com/news/2016/11/16/nuclear-radiation-found-on-islands-in-russian-arctic_648381//
// Current day, Russian scientists, IN THE end of page, mention,
after they investigate "UNUSUAL high levels of radiation.."
that,
as some other reasons, kind of contributing to it., might have been: "scientific research in the Soviet era provided a secondary source of nuclear contamination..:"
// yes seems the radiation must be high and altering mind a unusually high levels as well
In beginning, sounds like parody:
"Russian scientists have discovered unusually high levels of radiation on Severny Island, which is part of the Novaya Zemlya archipelago in the Kara Sea. Their findings were published in a recent edition of the journal Oceanology. The Russian Science Fund also announced the discovery in a press release, which was picked up by news website Lenta.ru.
According to the publications, extremely high levels of radioactive caesium were found on the edge of the Severny Island ice cap. Dust samples of material taken from the Goluboi glacier on the island exhibited an even higher level of radioactive caesium.
Northern exposure: Life in Norilsk, Russia's most polluted city
The presence of americium radionuclides in the samples indicates that the primary source of the nuclear contamination is nuclear explosions in the Earth’s atmosphere. Scientists came to this conclusion following an analysis of glaciological radiation in 2015 during an expedition by the research ship Akademik Mstislav Keldysh
http://rbth.com/news/2016/11/16/nuclear-radiation-found-on-islands-in-russian-arctic_648381//
16 April 2017 21:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
everny Island (Russian: Се́верный о́стров, Northern Island) is the northern island of the Novaya Zemlya archipelago, lying approx 400 km north of the Russian mainland. It has an area of 48,904 square kilometres (18,882 sq mi), making it the 30th-largest island in the world
Sukhoy Nos cape, located at the southern end of the island, was used for nuclear weapons testing between 1958 and 1961. The Tsar Bomba hydrogen bomb test destroyed all buildings in the village of Severny (both wooden and brick)
--
okey that ... who build that village, who lived there or... but thanks no one seems , maybe some elf s
http://www.allaboutislands.com/island?id=14851&name=Severny+Island
Sukhoy Nos cape, located at the southern end of the island, was used for nuclear weapons testing between 1958 and 1961. The Tsar Bomba hydrogen bomb test destroyed all buildings in the village of Severny (both wooden and brick)
--
okey that ... who build that village, who lived there or... but thanks no one seems , maybe some elf s
http://www.allaboutislands.com/island?id=14851&name=Severny+Island
http://www.allaboutislands.com/island?id=14851&name=Severny+Island
16 April 2017 21:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"All buildings in the village of Severny (both wooden and brick), located 55 km (34 mi) from ground zero within the Sukhoy Nos test range, were destroyed. In districts hundreds of kilometers from ground zero wooden houses were destroyed, stone ones lost their roofs, windows and doors, and radio communications were interrupted for almost one hour. One participant in the test saw a bright flash through dark goggles and felt the effects of a thermal pulse even at a distance of 270 kilometres (170 mi). The heat from the explosion could have caused third-degree burns 100 km (62 mi) away from ground zero. A shock wave was observed in the air at Dikson settlement 700 km (430 mi) away; windowpanes were partially broken to distances of 900 kilometres (560 mi).[23] Atmospheric focusing caused blast damage at even greater distances, breaking windows in Norway and Finland. Despite being detonated 4.2 km above ground, its seismic body wave magnitude was estimated at 5–5.25.[10][20] Sensors continued to identify the shockwaves after their third trip around the world."
On 16 January 1963 Khrushchev made an explicit claim that the Soviet Union was in possession of a 100 megaton bomb, claiming that it was located in East Germany.
The 50 Mt clean version would have been a plausible weapon though, since it could be delivered by Tu-95 in Europe, and the reduced yield and the relative lack of fallout would have made it much easier to find targets in Europe where it could be used without devastating effects on the Warsaw Pact itself.
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Russia/TsarBomba.html
On 16 January 1963 Khrushchev made an explicit claim that the Soviet Union was in possession of a 100 megaton bomb, claiming that it was located in East Germany.
The 50 Mt clean version would have been a plausible weapon though, since it could be delivered by Tu-95 in Europe, and the reduced yield and the relative lack of fallout would have made it much easier to find targets in Europe where it could be used without devastating effects on the Warsaw Pact itself.
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Russia/TsarBomba.html
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Russia/TsarBomba.html
16 April 2017 21:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The fireball reached nearly as high as the altitude of the release plane and was visible at almost 1,000 km (620 mi) away from where it ascended. The mushroom cloud was about 64 km (40 mi) high (over seven times the height of Mount Everest), which meant that the cloud was above the stratosphere and well inside the mesosphere when it peaked. The cap of the mushroom cloud had a peak width of 95 km (59 mi) and its base was 40 km (25 mi) wide
https://www.rt.com/news/tsar-bomb-thermonuclear-test-111/
// no significance besides political. and that was the point
"The bomb did not have any significance per se. Its size and weight excluded a successful delivery in case of a real war. There was only one bomb made specifically for only one test explosion. The USSR (and then Russia) did not have an intention to put such monstrous bombs into arsenal. The bomb was exploded to demonstrate the USSR’s possession of extremely powerful weapons of mass destruction. The USA’s most powerful A-bomb was four times less powerful than the Tsar Bomba. - See more at: http://www.pravdareport.com/history/17-09-2009/109339-tsar_bomba-0/ "
https://www.rt.com/news/tsar-bomb-thermonuclear-test-111/
// no significance besides political. and that was the point
"The bomb did not have any significance per se. Its size and weight excluded a successful delivery in case of a real war. There was only one bomb made specifically for only one test explosion. The USSR (and then Russia) did not have an intention to put such monstrous bombs into arsenal. The bomb was exploded to demonstrate the USSR’s possession of extremely powerful weapons of mass destruction. The USA’s most powerful A-bomb was four times less powerful than the Tsar Bomba. - See more at: http://www.pravdareport.com/history/17-09-2009/109339-tsar_bomba-0/ "
https://www.rt.com/news/tsar-bomb-thermonuclear-test-111/
16 April 2017 21:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
well, these miracle pilots, one kilometer, you say?? :
"The bomb, weighing 27 metric tons, was so large (8 metres (26 ft) long by 2.1 m (6 ft 11 in) in diameter) that the Tu-95V had to have its bomb bay doors and fuselage fuel tanks removed.[1] The bomb was attached to an 800 kilogram parachute, which gave the release and observer planes time to fly about 45 kilometres (28 mi) away from ground zero. When detonation occurred, the Tu-95V dropped one kilometer in the air because of the shock wave, but was able to land safely.
https://www.ctbto.org/specials/testing-times/30-october-1961-the-tsar-bomba/
"The bomb, weighing 27 metric tons, was so large (8 metres (26 ft) long by 2.1 m (6 ft 11 in) in diameter) that the Tu-95V had to have its bomb bay doors and fuselage fuel tanks removed.[1] The bomb was attached to an 800 kilogram parachute, which gave the release and observer planes time to fly about 45 kilometres (28 mi) away from ground zero. When detonation occurred, the Tu-95V dropped one kilometer in the air because of the shock wave, but was able to land safely.
https://www.ctbto.org/specials/testing-times/30-october-1961-the-tsar-bomba/
https://www.ctbto.org/specials/testing-times/30-october-1961-the-tsar-bomba/
16 April 2017 20:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// 100 megatons is equivalent to about 3000 times the combined energy of the bombs that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki,
16 April 2017 20:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"We'll show you!"
Tsar Bomba (Russian: Царь-бомба; "Tsar-bomb") was the Western nickname for the Soviet RDS-220 hydrogen bomb (code name Ivan[3] or Vanya), the most powerful nuclear weapon ever detonated. Its test on 30 October 1961 remains the most powerful man-made explosion in history. It was also referred to as Kuzkina mat (Russian: Кузькина мать; "Kuzma's mother"), possibly referring to Nikita Khrushchev's promise to show the United States a Kuzkina mat (an idiom roughly translating to "We'll show you!") at a 1960 session of United Nations General Assembly.
The bomb had a yield of 57 megaton TNT (210 PJ). In theory, it had a maximum yield of 100 megatons if it were to have included a U-238 tamper, but because only one bomb was built, this was never demonstrated. The single bomb was detonated at the Sukhoy Nos cape of Severny Island, part of Novaya Zemlya
// 100 megatons is equivalent to about 3000 times the combined energy of the bombs that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki,
This was just for demo, for real life there is more strategy...
-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba
Tsar Bomba (Russian: Царь-бомба; "Tsar-bomb") was the Western nickname for the Soviet RDS-220 hydrogen bomb (code name Ivan[3] or Vanya), the most powerful nuclear weapon ever detonated. Its test on 30 October 1961 remains the most powerful man-made explosion in history. It was also referred to as Kuzkina mat (Russian: Кузькина мать; "Kuzma's mother"), possibly referring to Nikita Khrushchev's promise to show the United States a Kuzkina mat (an idiom roughly translating to "We'll show you!") at a 1960 session of United Nations General Assembly.
The bomb had a yield of 57 megaton TNT (210 PJ). In theory, it had a maximum yield of 100 megatons if it were to have included a U-238 tamper, but because only one bomb was built, this was never demonstrated. The single bomb was detonated at the Sukhoy Nos cape of Severny Island, part of Novaya Zemlya
// 100 megatons is equivalent to about 3000 times the combined energy of the bombs that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki,
This was just for demo, for real life there is more strategy...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba
16 April 2017 20:52
Margus Meigo replied to Deborah Walker's comment.
Group: The Democratic Political Initiative
so be it16 April 2017 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Järelsõna: https://youtu.be/Dgknjwk7crs
https://youtu.be/Dgknjwk7crs
15 April 2017 23:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Really well made !
15 April 2017 19:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and i surf a lot so will not come to be moved on so easy but in here.. thank You !
15 April 2017 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on Sageword's video.
Got my a wave of feeling, amazing, really these words got power ..
just with 2 seconds in the end got me like "wou...!
just with 2 seconds in the end got me like "wou...!
15 April 2017 19:56
Margus Meigo commented on Sageword's photo.
A Wisdom
15 April 2017 19:52
Margus Meigo commented on Sageword's photo.
It should not be pentagram in there but a six star, as six star is directly Matriarhatic while five star works for female enslavement.
But Ankh it self, is already great !
http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-sites-places/jerusalem/king-hezekiah-in-the-bible-royal-seal-of-hezekiah-comes-to-light/ <
But Ankh it self, is already great !
http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-sites-places/jerusalem/king-hezekiah-in-the-bible-royal-seal-of-hezekiah-comes-to-light/ <
15 April 2017 19:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
to much in space. back to Earth now, where roots are
“A single act of kindness throws out roots in all directions, and the roots spring up and make new trees.
https://www.facebook.com/197774576938949/photos/rpp.197774576938949/1270626069653789/?type=3&theater
“A single act of kindness throws out roots in all directions, and the roots spring up and make new trees.
https://www.facebook.com/197774576938949/photos/rpp.197774576938949/1270626069653789/?type=3&theater
15 April 2017 19:46
Margus Meigo commented on Sageword's photo.
Grat, True
But no need to start sentence with Forgetting,
"Forget what they told you"
is not needed, as it is in weaker category of thinking, that "they" and that someone must "forget..... and but all .. how we know to who forget and what way.. no.. understand is what we need, and focus on truth .. if something needs to go out from mind it will as long we focus on looking ofr understanding and all the other, what was mentioned in these great posts in Safeworld page..
sometimes when people keep not in a mind, what is needed, they step in to same mistakes again... even lies is needed to remember as it is education, experiences, that we needed perhaps to understand world and to protect others from " it "
But no need to start sentence with Forgetting,
"Forget what they told you"
is not needed, as it is in weaker category of thinking, that "they" and that someone must "forget..... and but all .. how we know to who forget and what way.. no.. understand is what we need, and focus on truth .. if something needs to go out from mind it will as long we focus on looking ofr understanding and all the other, what was mentioned in these great posts in Safeworld page..
sometimes when people keep not in a mind, what is needed, they step in to same mistakes again... even lies is needed to remember as it is education, experiences, that we needed perhaps to understand world and to protect others from " it "
15 April 2017 19:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
All is to good to keep posting it, so just go by all the posts in there for free education about Her,
Just some semi random picks more for dimension's
"You are the love child of a passionate affair between Goddess and Universe. You were born of a steamy forbidden heat and you were made for the cyclone of unadulterated wholeness. You are a Daughter of Delight. You are the unconstrained Mother of All: a fierce warrior, a wicked priestess. Your roots twist into this earth. Your spirit rises in glorious asana. You let loose with the howl of the wilderness you’ve held tight all these years. "
https://www.facebook.com/197774576938949/photos/rpp.197774576938949/1265551216827941/?type=3&theater
Just some semi random picks more for dimension's
"You are the love child of a passionate affair between Goddess and Universe. You were born of a steamy forbidden heat and you were made for the cyclone of unadulterated wholeness. You are a Daughter of Delight. You are the unconstrained Mother of All: a fierce warrior, a wicked priestess. Your roots twist into this earth. Your spirit rises in glorious asana. You let loose with the howl of the wilderness you’ve held tight all these years. "
https://www.facebook.com/197774576938949/photos/rpp.197774576938949/1265551216827941/?type=3&theater
15 April 2017 19:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#ReALArt
Wou: Look @ that colors !!!
Who paint this, must know what they did
" She was always told she was "too wild", as if it was a bad thing. Now she realizes it's one of her potent gifts "
https://www.facebook.com/197774576938949/photos/rpp.197774576938949/1268511043198625/?type=3&theater
Wou: Look @ that colors !!!
Who paint this, must know what they did
" She was always told she was "too wild", as if it was a bad thing. Now she realizes it's one of her potent gifts "
https://www.facebook.com/197774576938949/photos/rpp.197774576938949/1268511043198625/?type=3&theater
15 April 2017 19:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"“Some people are together
just so they’re not alone.
Some people want magic.
I am one of those people."
https://www.facebook.com/197774576938949/photos/rpp.197774576938949/1262400783809651/?type=3&theater
just so they’re not alone.
Some people want magic.
I am one of those people."
https://www.facebook.com/197774576938949/photos/rpp.197774576938949/1262400783809651/?type=3&theater
15 April 2017 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#ReALArt
"The best gift you are ever going to give someone — the permission to feel safe in their own skin. To feel worthy. To feel like they are enough "
https://www.facebook.com/197774576938949/photos/rpp.197774576938949/1260421170674279/?type=3&theater
"The best gift you are ever going to give someone — the permission to feel safe in their own skin. To feel worthy. To feel like they are enough "
https://www.facebook.com/197774576938949/photos/rpp.197774576938949/1260421170674279/?type=3&theater
15 April 2017 19:31
Margus Meigo replied to Bonnie Thomas Jarrett's comment.
jup
mostly it is spiritual related, when people want to wake up and make more then they are forced to...
so giving them amphetamines helps then to be fixed in one line that is forced to..
cannabis more fulfills the potential and increases even at times so this is worry for planned structured rulers..
mostly it is spiritual related, when people want to wake up and make more then they are forced to...
so giving them amphetamines helps then to be fixed in one line that is forced to..
cannabis more fulfills the potential and increases even at times so this is worry for planned structured rulers..
15 April 2017 19:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but yea main thing humans should remember, that whoo'se other side this part of two headed eagle is..
15 April 2017 19:17
Margus Meigo commented on Raven Rayne's post.
It is not so bad.. they do some good also like..
15 April 2017 19:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
These are like one of the Most important post of them all, answering the point's what humans wonder and struggle about, and interest.. is none.. showing there is some serious things in human mind's messed that they lack the curradge even to listen and look this what intellectually anyone should know, is worth great importance.... but what is hidden inside.. is greater jet.
15 April 2017 19:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"If you ever fall in love, fall in love with someone who wants to know your favorite color and just how you like your coffee. Fall in love with someone who loves the way you laugh and would do absolutely anything to hear it. Fall in love with someone who puts their head on your chest just to hear your heart beat. Fall in love with someone who kisses you in public and is proud to show you off to anyone they know. Fall in love with someone who makes you question why you were afraid to fall in love in the first place. Fall in love with someone who would never ever want to hurt you. Fall in love with someone who falls in love with your flaws and thinks you are perfect just the way you are. Fall in love with someone who thinks that you are the ONE they would love to wake up to each day "
https://www.facebook.com/197774576938949/photos/rpp.197774576938949/1269559406427122/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/197774576938949/photos/rpp.197774576938949/1269559406427122/?type=3&theater
15 April 2017 19:05
Margus Meigo commented on Rosa Maria Oliveira's photo.
This is how i see basic women to be, not even in a great heights, what is much more.. the basic.
15 April 2017 18:58
Margus Meigo commented on Rosa Maria Oliveira's photo.
That is kind of like my time, weekdays is near similar
15 April 2017 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on Rosa Maria Oliveira's photo.
Well, not in a hell (shame) fire it is :p
15 April 2017 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on Rosa Maria Oliveira's photo.
Is that Actual real tree?
15 April 2017 18:56
Margus Meigo commented on Rosa Maria Oliveira's photo.
Careful now : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l23wDDAr1Fs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l23wDDAr1Fs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l23wDDAr1Fs
15 April 2017 18:38
Margus Meigo commented on Rosa Maria Oliveira's photo.
Someone have to have, final judgement!
15 April 2017 18:37
Margus Meigo commented on Rosa Maria Oliveira's photo.
But picture of Her, is amazing really!
(just women's need less metallic juwlery, as it is not the energy that fully spirit-body needs to carry ... gold marriage ring, not even sure if that is... but seems gold is lighter in spiritual world then other metals , perhaps much lighter , but have to meditate on it.. (in mobiles there is some stones and metals, that are really heavy in energetic, spiritual way... but i kind of must find a person who feel what i am talking about ... something else then atomic mass.. ) )
(just women's need less metallic juwlery, as it is not the energy that fully spirit-body needs to carry ... gold marriage ring, not even sure if that is... but seems gold is lighter in spiritual world then other metals , perhaps much lighter , but have to meditate on it.. (in mobiles there is some stones and metals, that are really heavy in energetic, spiritual way... but i kind of must find a person who feel what i am talking about ... something else then atomic mass.. ) )
15 April 2017 18:36
Margus Meigo commented on Rosa Maria Oliveira's photo.
of-course, the "pride" and the energy behind that, is that of what is not supportive of female in the end, and from the beginning ,
but if one loves and not using gift of judging, then often these information's will always remain hidden, ... and these beings, behind these promotions, will live longer, using and abusing
but if one loves and not using gift of judging, then often these information's will always remain hidden, ... and these beings, behind these promotions, will live longer, using and abusing
15 April 2017 18:33
Margus Meigo replied to Shannon Campbell's comment.
and tatoos and julery that pierces the body, is also that what hold powerful women more in lock, is like You get some steps to move around but then there is like a "tie around the neck" that will be used to "Hold you in place" or pull back, when needed,
Seems to be for current knowings,
but will evolve on these knowings in next 20 years, will see what can say then.
(earrings apparently destroy some important energy points that are on ears .. this is why it was introduced to a women, by opponents .. as women was tricked with fake man to wear high heels, believing it self it has beauty element, so with many other-things )
But yea, as long hair power is not removed by making it blonde with poisons.. it has still perhaps more power, .. people kind of are made to forget how LIVE hair is.. and is it .. thing.. You do .. to your Live body part.. for name of fashion.. as for self, there is no benefit really, besides making multi option hair reality channels and tie them in to more simple ones..
But besides that, get me right, obviously, is still a great Women!
Seems to be for current knowings,
but will evolve on these knowings in next 20 years, will see what can say then.
(earrings apparently destroy some important energy points that are on ears .. this is why it was introduced to a women, by opponents .. as women was tricked with fake man to wear high heels, believing it self it has beauty element, so with many other-things )
But yea, as long hair power is not removed by making it blonde with poisons.. it has still perhaps more power, .. people kind of are made to forget how LIVE hair is.. and is it .. thing.. You do .. to your Live body part.. for name of fashion.. as for self, there is no benefit really, besides making multi option hair reality channels and tie them in to more simple ones..
But besides that, get me right, obviously, is still a great Women!
15 April 2017 18:26
Margus Meigo replied to Shannon Campbell's comment.
actually to be honest, dreads does not help female power to access her connections, It is broken antennas in many way locking one more on to material earth with out remote help so much.
For whiter species it is so, have not been able to receive information about African / Jamaican, but seems they got some other sources of energy but for elementary power and care of a women, hair is part of Great magic, where you not have to joan to forces but You are known representative of the godly force, window for a man and sing of a nature
For whiter species it is so, have not been able to receive information about African / Jamaican, but seems they got some other sources of energy but for elementary power and care of a women, hair is part of Great magic, where you not have to joan to forces but You are known representative of the godly force, window for a man and sing of a nature
15 April 2017 18:19
Margus Meigo commented on Dr Dain Heer's video.
Elementary, but there is much more seriousness behind it, WHY someone receives, WHY someone is freed from receiving, .. there are governmental and dark spiritual tools and technology that can free You from it and attack You in to it... like for example if some cult has good strong working with extreme powerful dark forces, like Scientology has, that has ability to limit all negative media about them self, do any kind of imaginable darkness what is needed and no one will ask, as they got access to tools to pick and choose human minds and access, in to it, specially if anyone is sexually involved, this adds to a sin package of mixing things up OUTER worlds at times serious way, at times less serious but sill, much less correct way compared to correct understanding of Your purpose (for a man, it is to help a women, to see her as higher then ANY man ever, and to protect good besides making home, if possible. But there is groups of man who have to be focused more in one or other, but main point, Matriarchy is minimum requirement to actually evolve righteously in to ALL worlds, and it is less pretentious and for women to demand man to be on the level, that man knows, what is Her position and mission ((window to man Soul) ..what is the cost of this.. )
just example of basic information, that just now, by training's, people discover and then also, just half way,, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zyuvNnTcNY&list=PLn9uEM4NB35Of65AM-4AA7wY5Ry8g-INM&index=12
just example of basic information, that just now, by training's, people discover and then also, just half way,, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zyuvNnTcNY&list=PLn9uEM4NB35Of65AM-4AA7wY5Ry8g-INM&index=12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zyuvNnTcNY&list=PLn9uEM4NB35Of65AM-4AA7wY5Ry8g-INM&index=12
15 April 2017 17:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hey Hicks, by any means near friend of some known Hicks?
14 April 2017 20:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid eks ta veider ole jah, et seda ka päris loovuse ja Kunstiga suure tähega, võrdsustatakse.
14 April 2017 12:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Sest kokku pole viidutki meid"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTPMA-I-uWk&list=RDDTPMA-I-uWk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTPMA-I-uWk&list=RDDTPMA-I-uWk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTPMA-I-uWk&list=RDDTPMA-I-uWk
14 April 2017 10:34
Margus Meigo commented on Maryn E. Coote's post.
yeah, but this is not REAL art, it is ... the what they call it..
Real art is something much deeper and more beautiful
Real art is something much deeper and more beautiful
14 April 2017 04:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid samas on nagu ka nii,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gadgzvtG_K4&pbjreload=10 (Helend Peep - Kerjuse laul)
Kuid mitte päris,
kuid samas, ikka päris päris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gadgzvtG_K4&pbjreload=10 (Helend Peep - Kerjuse laul)
Kuid mitte päris,
kuid samas, ikka päris päris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gadgzvtG_K4&pbjreload=10
14 April 2017 00:43
Margus Meigo commented on Émilie Rigby's post.
Group: Spoon Carving, Green Woodworking and Sloyd
Wooden spoons are the best eating device what i have ever encountered, just can not explain after getting used to it.. metal spoon seems brutalic, even the most nice ones and plastic just ugl..degrading for self and food.. wood is way to go, life, than You trees!14 April 2017 00:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
14 April 2017 00:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sinult osagi ma võtta ei saa ega omada plaani vaid soovin süvahoolitsuses Sind süleleda ajakesed, et Sa oma eluteel õiged armastused tunneksid, õiged arusaaksid
13 April 2017 23:57
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
ohh... i thought it is Saturn's news
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/13/nasa-announce-major-discovery-ocean-worlds-search-alien-life/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_fb_tmg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/13/nasa-announce-major-discovery-ocean-worlds-search-alien-life/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_fb_tmg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/13/nasa-announce-major-discovery-ocean-worlds-search-alien-life/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_fb_tmg
13 April 2017 22:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
true to say, rare amount really
12 April 2017 23:01
Margus Meigo commented on Mo Anguidæ's post.
i just eat something that most people in earth have not eat
12 April 2017 23:01
Margus Meigo commented on Mo Anguidæ's post.
not at all anymore
12 April 2017 23:00
Margus Meigo commented on NewsBook's video.
i will not press play on it but it seems to be pretty sick
12 April 2017 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on We Fucking Love Atheism's photo.
Sad is that they newer find out, who was in the sky and how and why was they able to be invizible
12 April 2017 21:23
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
oot ikka päris loomadest räägite, mitte see pole kood katekooria... kellegite muu jaoks eks ?
12 April 2017 17:04
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
üldiselt väõiks loomaaiad kinni panna või kuidagi kinniseks teha, kui tõesti vaja on mõnda päästa ja hoida seni kuni nad uuesti ise paljunema saavad hakata
12 April 2017 17:03
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Asjalik : )
12 April 2017 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
what is event?
12 April 2017 00:02
Margus Meigo commented on Stalin's Chamber of Organized Labour's photo.
Who are on pictures?
12 April 2017 00:02
Margus Meigo commented on Stalin's Chamber of Organized Labour's post.
Great Age!
To take part of Finnish war was a shame but great looking man for sure!
To take part of Finnish war was a shame but great looking man for sure!
11 April 2017 23:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
924 bt now
11 April 2017 23:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// for it is important to receive acknowledgment that another one knows, how important this all/You is in Our mind
// and when someone for our kind try to test, to see, is them more important or what i do in my mind, then this is signal for our kind that one did not reach the understanding how important one and another is if they force to choose, so She have to be let go to keep place open for the one who cares more with trust, to save important time, and so She would not cause harm to her self with confusion about full distrust,
yes she might be doing that for playful, non consies or for security reasons, worries mentioned before,but then it will end just up as broken mach made in heaven when at best it will work some way better then most, but is less then ideal, and as our kind only want to provide complete ideal then we can not afford to settle for less, for her, even if that knowingly would be times better then anyone else ever can come then this is not a reason to keep someone new who theoretically can come, away from so much higher level of possibilities. Or this is not enough for self benefit, to have less them all, and rather nothing at least is not wrong in a level how it would end up to be if needing years to change someones mind . as then proof comes by knowing not by love and belief and then every next great level also perhaps needs proof, and so this slows down entire process in these levels that can not reach to steps that is needed for everyone's benefit so We can rest in peace
// and when someone for our kind try to test, to see, is them more important or what i do in my mind, then this is signal for our kind that one did not reach the understanding how important one and another is if they force to choose, so She have to be let go to keep place open for the one who cares more with trust, to save important time, and so She would not cause harm to her self with confusion about full distrust,
yes she might be doing that for playful, non consies or for security reasons, worries mentioned before,but then it will end just up as broken mach made in heaven when at best it will work some way better then most, but is less then ideal, and as our kind only want to provide complete ideal then we can not afford to settle for less, for her, even if that knowingly would be times better then anyone else ever can come then this is not a reason to keep someone new who theoretically can come, away from so much higher level of possibilities. Or this is not enough for self benefit, to have less them all, and rather nothing at least is not wrong in a level how it would end up to be if needing years to change someones mind . as then proof comes by knowing not by love and belief and then every next great level also perhaps needs proof, and so this slows down entire process in these levels that can not reach to steps that is needed for everyone's benefit so We can rest in peace
11 April 2017 08:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// But for my own kind, is try to keep it on energy level nonexistent and at most, some direction of the words to bave the road direction, but to keep all this what would make another side surrender, to as minimum as possible, over border non resistant and on the side of coldness at times rather then "showing the humbleness power" as one knows, what is good, but trick is to try to, to want to keep that to who Really is wanting to receive and return this what is needed, what is just to have faith
11 April 2017 08:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// and other part of true, and that is a worry some, but guess, can not be harm to open that (worry that more wrongly ones start to use it) more then to keep it as private and by that limiting also possibility for that to reach at least to some correct humans, Hard with this kind of truth, but as truth is there is professional darker side also, who trains them self how to attract this kind of vibe that seems to be this ... then perhaps in this world also, it helps women to be more prepared and to test and test softly few ways more, earthly before surrender, so:
" Ravishment is the capacity for a man to smithereen a woman, to obliterate her resistance and flow wide open to love, beyond her control, beyond her alone-capacity. Ravishment is where she is taken open to the place she has intuited as her divine nature–infinite love. To be taken open by a man who is consciousness as a practice, a man who is not trying to fuck her, who is not trying to put his dick in her to have an orgasm, who is not trying to get her to be quiet or to calm her emotions. He is completely accepting her the way she is. And then loving her so deeply she has no choice but to burst open with his full presence. Ravishment is when she has no choice. She has received your depth of consciousness so consistently, through your body, through your breath, your eyes. There are techniques for all of this, for her to receive that depth of consciousness so fully she can’t help but surrender–even if she wants to resist, she can’t. Loved, by consciousness. So ravishment is about opening a woman beyond her own fear into the love that is her true nature, deeper than she could take herself. "
" Ravishment is the capacity for a man to smithereen a woman, to obliterate her resistance and flow wide open to love, beyond her control, beyond her alone-capacity. Ravishment is where she is taken open to the place she has intuited as her divine nature–infinite love. To be taken open by a man who is consciousness as a practice, a man who is not trying to fuck her, who is not trying to put his dick in her to have an orgasm, who is not trying to get her to be quiet or to calm her emotions. He is completely accepting her the way she is. And then loving her so deeply she has no choice but to burst open with his full presence. Ravishment is when she has no choice. She has received your depth of consciousness so consistently, through your body, through your breath, your eyes. There are techniques for all of this, for her to receive that depth of consciousness so fully she can’t help but surrender–even if she wants to resist, she can’t. Loved, by consciousness. So ravishment is about opening a woman beyond her own fear into the love that is her true nature, deeper than she could take herself. "
11 April 2017 08:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Some elementary but good to see this is words:
"Common Ground: What do you mean when you speak about a man ravishing a woman?
David Deida: First, it means that the man has to be in touch with God or with the depth of this moment. We will keep the description heterosexual because that is how your question is oriented. So, the first step would be for a man to have done whatever practice he does in his own life up to that moment before sex, so that they were grounded in infinity. Then with every breath there would be the inhale of infinity and then the exhaled release of infinity. Their heart would be receptive to love and able to release and give love. When you are a man who is free and can bring that to sexuality with a woman whose heart is yearning to open in love (which of course, every human’s heart is), that is a beginning.
The feminine is identified with love and light as opposed to consciousness, so the center of the feminine’s life is being opened and filled full of love. The impulse of the third-stage masculine is to give her that love she has been yearning for her entire life, usually secretly. In most women’s hearts, they feel, “No one has ever met me or fully seen me.” She feels like that even if she has been married for 20 years. Most women have never felt they met someone who knows them deeper than they know themselves. Because the third-stage man is vulnerable consciousness, he feels her deeper than she could feel herself. He feels her yearning heart and meets her at a deeper place than she could feel herself, deeper than she expected–that is ravishment."
https://deida.info/2016/01/31/what-is-ravishment/
"Common Ground: What do you mean when you speak about a man ravishing a woman?
David Deida: First, it means that the man has to be in touch with God or with the depth of this moment. We will keep the description heterosexual because that is how your question is oriented. So, the first step would be for a man to have done whatever practice he does in his own life up to that moment before sex, so that they were grounded in infinity. Then with every breath there would be the inhale of infinity and then the exhaled release of infinity. Their heart would be receptive to love and able to release and give love. When you are a man who is free and can bring that to sexuality with a woman whose heart is yearning to open in love (which of course, every human’s heart is), that is a beginning.
The feminine is identified with love and light as opposed to consciousness, so the center of the feminine’s life is being opened and filled full of love. The impulse of the third-stage masculine is to give her that love she has been yearning for her entire life, usually secretly. In most women’s hearts, they feel, “No one has ever met me or fully seen me.” She feels like that even if she has been married for 20 years. Most women have never felt they met someone who knows them deeper than they know themselves. Because the third-stage man is vulnerable consciousness, he feels her deeper than she could feel herself. He feels her yearning heart and meets her at a deeper place than she could feel herself, deeper than she expected–that is ravishment."
https://deida.info/2016/01/31/what-is-ravishment/
https://deida.info/2016/01/31/what-is-ravishment/
11 April 2017 07:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Surprisingly good material as well from gender that might sound like "self help" : https://deida.info/shop/?product_view=list&product_orderby=default
For sure not gender neutral material
For sure not gender neutral material
https://deida.info/shop/?product_view=list&product_orderby=default
11 April 2017 07:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
rest.. just know You go, but at least make your help to to others, so you can have your last moments more nice
no use to make it nothing else then better, to everyone, even if You realize, yu not the one who will satay or who is meant to be as the one's who is useful to keep and needed to stay
no use to make it nothing else then better, to everyone, even if You realize, yu not the one who will satay or who is meant to be as the one's who is useful to keep and needed to stay
11 April 2017 05:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
if You are, this part, that will stay
11 April 2017 05:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
what You should be
11 April 2017 05:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Focus the things that have stay over 5000+ years non stop,
Shamanism and Judaism
Judaism if you wish is nothing more, then showing, keeping record, how you was and should be living
not something you can "turn to".. it is turning in to yourself, basic requirement to considered as to be this what you are
Shamanism and Judaism
Judaism if you wish is nothing more, then showing, keeping record, how you was and should be living
not something you can "turn to".. it is turning in to yourself, basic requirement to considered as to be this what you are
11 April 2017 05:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Over roman empire, we can do it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDBy9l8IyrI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At times, when we remember, we got!
We can turn even T to lovable being
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDBy9l8IyrI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At times, when we remember, we got!
We can turn even T to lovable being
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDBy9l8IyrI
11 April 2017 05:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
it has to be voluntary elementary, the union of fixing
11 April 2017 05:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but hard to make, alone
11 April 2017 05:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I have felt the "one" part, and know in fact, that is really a true, and not some soft spiritual level, but i pull my self back, as felt, i still need to do here first, what is needed
11 April 2017 05:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
should have software app lists, somewhere on my old file,s but not easy to find
started to re-use Trillian now, surprised it has not been killed off, but even this soft, while having some goodies, is now done some bug things that should not be after 15 years of development..
started to re-use Trillian now, surprised it has not been killed off, but even this soft, while having some goodies, is now done some bug things that should not be after 15 years of development..
11 April 2017 03:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
i wish i would be able to replicate this some day, if i would have info some places what CPUs was used (as it was rather good one from Gov department) and the soft i had there.
Had no idea that these things can develop in so bad direction as they are right now.. not to mention the Chrome limited one way direction.. and "apps" generation
Had no idea that these things can develop in so bad direction as they are right now.. not to mention the Chrome limited one way direction.. and "apps" generation
11 April 2017 03:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
valtakse, aga kedagi ei koti kas inimene aru ka saab keda ja miks valib,
täiesti utoopiline10 April 2017 20:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
ei teagi, kas ohtulehes kommentaar läbi läheb, igaksjuhuks salvestasin siia ka10 April 2017 20:12
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Tuisk's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Valimised tuleks teha tasuliseks ja eksamiga, ja võimaluse korral tuleb veel vaadata, et kui perekonnal on hälbegavaateid olnud, siis tuleks riigi tuleviku nimel kaks eksamit teha. Kes siin sündinud pole, peaks mitme kordse hinna maksma, et võõra maa valimistel osaleda, 25 kuni 50 eurot oleks täiesti normaalne miinimum mida sotsaalses raskes olud inimesed maksma peaks, selle raha kui inimene riigist hoolib kogub 4 aastaga kokku küll, kui ei ole järjepidevust ja võimalusi sellega hakkama saada, siis mida ta hääletab. Maksumuse võib enne ära maksta, et siis viimasel hetkel ei peaks neid tehinguid ajama hakkama, maksa kasvõi 10 aasta osa ette, kui kindlustada soovid, enda hääle. Kordus eksami võiks ikka üle kahe valimise inimene uuesti teha, et kursssi viia.
Siis oleks kõik väga aktivne ja mõtted asjade juures kus vaja rohkem, mitte, et iga lamp vend kellel pohui hääletab kuidas juhtub vastavalt tujule ja esimesele reklaamile mis pähe hakkab, või muidu kergelt manipuleeritav inimene kes telgitaguseid ei tea ega saagi teada lihtsalt, praeguse olukorra osas, Ja siis antakse neile õigus, kogu riigi tuleviku eest otsustada, kes vaevu oma perega hakkama saavad, ning inmestatakse, et siis miks küll sellised halvad valikud tulevad siin demokraatias. Hääletamine peaks olema eliitide asi, väärtus, mille poole püüelda, ja kõigil on õigus selle poole püüelda riigis sündinutel või mujalt tulnutel, kuid arusaadav on, et palju vähem oluliste otsuste tarvis ja ametikohtadel nõutakse kõrgeid tunnistusi ja teste, ning siis kogu kultuuripärandi otsustamise eest võib iga riigivastane sama võrdselt hääeltada, et tema hääl sama palju väärt? Ja anonüüümne ka veel takkaotsa. nu selline arulagedus, et elaks nagu tõesti hullumajas mis omakorda on muul beeta staadiumis test planeedil, et polegi nagu päris maa inimesed, kui nii jaburalt ringi taiutakse lips ees ja midagi reaalset oma riigis paika ei julgeta panna. Isegi vormiriietust ei julge enda oma me valida vaid ikka need kõige totramad, ebamugavad ülikonna varjandid, suht haiglane, mis sellega kõik kaasneb.
Ja inimesed keda valitakse, neil peab ikka eriti eirline muu väärtus olema, kui neil vaoimsed arusaamad ja huvid puuduvad.10 April 2017 20:12
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Tuisk's post.
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idiootne idee, mis me räägime sellisest plämast üldse legaalselt ?? Targad inimesed ise osad peaks olema,
Mis vahet sel on on ta 65 v 85 %
oluline on, et inimesed saaksid ARU mida nad valivad ja mida elus teha, selle arusaama aktiivsust on vaja tõsta, valmised vb üldse vaja tasuliseks ja eksamiga teha, siis vast hääletaksid need kes hoolivad ja mõtlevad ka natuke10 April 2017 19:59
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's photo.
oh sind lipsumeest, undercoverbrother jeah?
10 April 2017 15:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Be careful who You as help for,
this is the same "Home Office"
Who made donations to pro.Pedo info Exchange and protected their cause, as i remeber
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_paedophile_dossier
The Home Office (HO) is a ministerial department of the Her Majesty's Government of the United Kingdom, responsible for immigration, security and law and order. As such it is responsible for the police, fire and rescue services, visas and immigration and the Security Service (MI5). It is also in charge of government policy on security-related issues such as drugs, counter-terrorism and ID cards. It was formerly responsible for Her Majesty's Prison Service and the National Probation Service, but these have been transferred to the Ministry of Justice. The Cabinet minister responsible for the department is the Home Secretary.
// and about MI5 ...
the second guy in MI6, was also besides
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hayman_(diplomat)
okey, MI6 or not but:
"n November 1937 he joined the Home Office as an Assistant Principal. In World War II he served in the Rifle Brigade from 1942 to 1945, rising to the rank of Major.
Hayman was director general of the British Information Services in New York[4] (1961–64) and then deputy commandant of the British military government in West Berlin from 1964 to 1966. He returned to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, becoming Deputy Under Secretary of State with responsibility for the United Nations and Eastern Europe from 1969 to 1970. ] Then, from 1970 to 1974, he served as High Commissioner of the United Kingdom to Canada. "
if that was real.. this is .. this is serious in another level..
The Guardian reported in 2014 that he later served in the intelligence services, and was "long-time deputy director of MI6".[5] The Daily Telegraph characterised him as an "MI6 operative".[6]
His obituary in The Independent gave his career history as:[3]
Assistant Principal Home Office 1937–39
Ministry of Home Security 1939–41
Assistant Private Secretary to Home Secretary 1941–42
Principal Home Office 1942, 1945–49
Personal Assistant to Chief Staff Officer to the Minister MOD 1949–52
Assistant Secretary MOD 1950
UK Delegation to NATO 1952–54
Foreign Office 1954
Counsellor Belgrade 1955–58
Assignment to Malta 1958
Counsellor Baghdad 1959–61
Director General of British Information Services New York 1961–64
Minister and Deputy Commandant British Military Government in Berlin 1964–66
Assistant Undersecretary FO 1966–69
Deputy Under Secretary of State FCO 1969–70
High Commissioner in Canada 1970–74
_______________
So in the end.,.. is still not fking clear...
// taking in to account powers of soviet and others to frame anyone in deep consistent manner, if they just want.. but main thing, how can anyone, important top of this, be part of some group that have to be under top level surveillance, without leaving any trace or no one noticing in a way that there would be clear proof. (assuming hthe inner circle of Security services and intelligence community is good and honest, with out an irony... then how come they not put extra effort in to it.. wt no-f)
much talk but no definite proofs that would read out so:
In October 1978, Hayman left a package of paedophilia-related material on a London bus. The police traced the package and discovered that Hayman, under the pseudonym "Peter Henderson", had used an apartment in Bayswater, London, to conduct obscene correspondence. In the apartment, police found 45 diaries describing six years of "sexual fantasies" concerning children and activities with prostitutes, articles of female clothing and obscene literature. He was investigated by police but released without charge after being given a warning not to send obscene material through the post.[7][8]
In November 1980, Private Eye magazine revealed this event.[9] In 1981, using parliamentary privilege, MP Geoffrey Dickens asked why Hayman had not been prosecuted,[10][11] with Dickens saying: "How did such a potential blackmail risk come to hold highly sensitive posts at the MOD and NATO?" He also asked the Leader of the House of Commons to "investigate the security implications of diaries found in the diplomat's London flat which contained accounts of sexual exploits".[12] The Attorney-General Michael Havers replied, "I am in agreement with the Director of Public Prosecutions' (Sir Thomas Chalmers Hetherington QC) advice not to prosecute Sir Peter Hayman and the other persons with whom he had carried on an obscene correspondence"[13] adding that, while Hayman had been found to have received pornographic material through the post, it was not of an extreme nature, was non-commercial and in a sealed envelope, so did not warrant prosecution.[14] There was much debate and condemnation in the international press of these events.[15]
In April 1981 Sir Michael Havers, the Attorney General, said in parliament that, while Hayman was a member of the Paedophile Information Exchange, he was never a member of the executive committee, so was not prosecuted as others were for publishing contact advertisements.[16][17] In 1984, Hayman was convicted for an act of gross indecency in a public lavatory.[1][10]
On 29 November 1985, Dickens complained in the House of Commons that he had suffered harassment following his naming of Hayman. "The noose around my neck grew tighter after I named a former high-flying British diplomat on the Floor of the House. Honourable Members will understand that where big money is involved and as important names came into my possession so the threats began. First, I received threatening telephone calls followed by two burglaries at my London home. Then, more seriously, my name appeared on a multi-killer's hit list."[18] The Independent newspaper in February 2013 could find no corroboration for Dickens' claims in 1985.[18]
On 30 January 2015, it was revealed that a file was found in the National Archives titled "SECURITY. Sir Peter Hayman: allegations against former public official of unnatural sexual proclivities; security aspects".[19] The file is dated from October 1980 to March 1981.[20] One document within the file related to the briefing given to then-Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher concerning Hayman's sexual fantasies related to children. The document also stated that there was no evidence these fantasies had been carried out. A further document outlined the official reaction and response to be made by government ministers if questioned about his 1978 arrest. A different document states that Hayman was vulnerable to blackmail by foreign powers because of his "sexual perversion", but foreign security services were not yet aware
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Okey the accuser Maybe seems legit,
but then again, there is serious rank difference and as we know is easy for soviets or who ever smart and connected enough, well, besides soviets hard to find many more..
is easy to make sides to fight between them self to make up or "leak" things.. but just bothers me less in this case, was it one or another way but more, how it was left open so, with no solution and resolution..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Dickens
this is the same "Home Office"
Who made donations to pro.Pedo info Exchange and protected their cause, as i remeber
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_paedophile_dossier
The Home Office (HO) is a ministerial department of the Her Majesty's Government of the United Kingdom, responsible for immigration, security and law and order. As such it is responsible for the police, fire and rescue services, visas and immigration and the Security Service (MI5). It is also in charge of government policy on security-related issues such as drugs, counter-terrorism and ID cards. It was formerly responsible for Her Majesty's Prison Service and the National Probation Service, but these have been transferred to the Ministry of Justice. The Cabinet minister responsible for the department is the Home Secretary.
// and about MI5 ...
the second guy in MI6, was also besides
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hayman_(diplomat)
okey, MI6 or not but:
"n November 1937 he joined the Home Office as an Assistant Principal. In World War II he served in the Rifle Brigade from 1942 to 1945, rising to the rank of Major.
Hayman was director general of the British Information Services in New York[4] (1961–64) and then deputy commandant of the British military government in West Berlin from 1964 to 1966. He returned to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, becoming Deputy Under Secretary of State with responsibility for the United Nations and Eastern Europe from 1969 to 1970. ] Then, from 1970 to 1974, he served as High Commissioner of the United Kingdom to Canada. "
if that was real.. this is .. this is serious in another level..
The Guardian reported in 2014 that he later served in the intelligence services, and was "long-time deputy director of MI6".[5] The Daily Telegraph characterised him as an "MI6 operative".[6]
His obituary in The Independent gave his career history as:[3]
Assistant Principal Home Office 1937–39
Ministry of Home Security 1939–41
Assistant Private Secretary to Home Secretary 1941–42
Principal Home Office 1942, 1945–49
Personal Assistant to Chief Staff Officer to the Minister MOD 1949–52
Assistant Secretary MOD 1950
UK Delegation to NATO 1952–54
Foreign Office 1954
Counsellor Belgrade 1955–58
Assignment to Malta 1958
Counsellor Baghdad 1959–61
Director General of British Information Services New York 1961–64
Minister and Deputy Commandant British Military Government in Berlin 1964–66
Assistant Undersecretary FO 1966–69
Deputy Under Secretary of State FCO 1969–70
High Commissioner in Canada 1970–74
_______________
So in the end.,.. is still not fking clear...
// taking in to account powers of soviet and others to frame anyone in deep consistent manner, if they just want.. but main thing, how can anyone, important top of this, be part of some group that have to be under top level surveillance, without leaving any trace or no one noticing in a way that there would be clear proof. (assuming hthe inner circle of Security services and intelligence community is good and honest, with out an irony... then how come they not put extra effort in to it.. wt no-f)
much talk but no definite proofs that would read out so:
In October 1978, Hayman left a package of paedophilia-related material on a London bus. The police traced the package and discovered that Hayman, under the pseudonym "Peter Henderson", had used an apartment in Bayswater, London, to conduct obscene correspondence. In the apartment, police found 45 diaries describing six years of "sexual fantasies" concerning children and activities with prostitutes, articles of female clothing and obscene literature. He was investigated by police but released without charge after being given a warning not to send obscene material through the post.[7][8]
In November 1980, Private Eye magazine revealed this event.[9] In 1981, using parliamentary privilege, MP Geoffrey Dickens asked why Hayman had not been prosecuted,[10][11] with Dickens saying: "How did such a potential blackmail risk come to hold highly sensitive posts at the MOD and NATO?" He also asked the Leader of the House of Commons to "investigate the security implications of diaries found in the diplomat's London flat which contained accounts of sexual exploits".[12] The Attorney-General Michael Havers replied, "I am in agreement with the Director of Public Prosecutions' (Sir Thomas Chalmers Hetherington QC) advice not to prosecute Sir Peter Hayman and the other persons with whom he had carried on an obscene correspondence"[13] adding that, while Hayman had been found to have received pornographic material through the post, it was not of an extreme nature, was non-commercial and in a sealed envelope, so did not warrant prosecution.[14] There was much debate and condemnation in the international press of these events.[15]
In April 1981 Sir Michael Havers, the Attorney General, said in parliament that, while Hayman was a member of the Paedophile Information Exchange, he was never a member of the executive committee, so was not prosecuted as others were for publishing contact advertisements.[16][17] In 1984, Hayman was convicted for an act of gross indecency in a public lavatory.[1][10]
On 29 November 1985, Dickens complained in the House of Commons that he had suffered harassment following his naming of Hayman. "The noose around my neck grew tighter after I named a former high-flying British diplomat on the Floor of the House. Honourable Members will understand that where big money is involved and as important names came into my possession so the threats began. First, I received threatening telephone calls followed by two burglaries at my London home. Then, more seriously, my name appeared on a multi-killer's hit list."[18] The Independent newspaper in February 2013 could find no corroboration for Dickens' claims in 1985.[18]
On 30 January 2015, it was revealed that a file was found in the National Archives titled "SECURITY. Sir Peter Hayman: allegations against former public official of unnatural sexual proclivities; security aspects".[19] The file is dated from October 1980 to March 1981.[20] One document within the file related to the briefing given to then-Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher concerning Hayman's sexual fantasies related to children. The document also stated that there was no evidence these fantasies had been carried out. A further document outlined the official reaction and response to be made by government ministers if questioned about his 1978 arrest. A different document states that Hayman was vulnerable to blackmail by foreign powers because of his "sexual perversion", but foreign security services were not yet aware
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Okey the accuser Maybe seems legit,
but then again, there is serious rank difference and as we know is easy for soviets or who ever smart and connected enough, well, besides soviets hard to find many more..
is easy to make sides to fight between them self to make up or "leak" things.. but just bothers me less in this case, was it one or another way but more, how it was left open so, with no solution and resolution..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Dickens
10 April 2017 14:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://internetinterceptors.wordpress.com/#jp-carousel-460
https://internetinterceptors.wordpress.com/#jp-carousel-460
10 April 2017 14:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey will list some solutions, organisations and methods here also soon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-pedophile_activism
" Anti-pedophile activism encompasses opposition against pedophiles, pedophile advocacy groups, child pornography and child sexual abuse. Much of the direct action classified as "anti-pedophile" involves demonstrations against sex offenders, groups advocating legalization of sexual activity between adults and children, and internet users who solicit sex from underage teenagers "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-pedophile_activism
" Anti-pedophile activism encompasses opposition against pedophiles, pedophile advocacy groups, child pornography and child sexual abuse. Much of the direct action classified as "anti-pedophile" involves demonstrations against sex offenders, groups advocating legalization of sexual activity between adults and children, and internet users who solicit sex from underage teenagers "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-pedophile_activism
10 April 2017 14:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
toho tali!
anti-pedo sites are taked down by gov but pedo ones stay up??!
"It had to happen: "justice" considers that it is time to get tough. After the mini-campaign of media propaganda intended to discredit the action of the anti-pedo association,...
"...probably seized a complaint troll. They are reproached for the publication of pedophile content, namely screenshots of sites and Facebook pages denounced many times but still online.
These sites and pages are often denounced hundreds of times but remain "conform to the standards" of Facebook, as sites such as "the bachelor", they remain miraculously accessible for years although the remarks held there and the links Which are published therein are particularly dangerous to children. "
" In France, more than a dozen families recognized his children on some snapshots, but no question of investigating. Yvon Tallec, a prosecutor at the mines' parquet in Paris, told the JT de France 2 [2] in 2000 : "A number of these photographs come from magazines where miners were photographed, most of the time not only with their agreement , But the agreement of their parents Some of the photographs are very old materials ", and he therefore appealed to" minimize, at least in France, the scope of this case, since many children presented here do not Are not French children ". Recall that the "images" were also often scenes of rape of children, sometimes accompanied by tortures."
// okey yes i hope they blurred the body parts in whole picture, at least, common sense
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdondevamos.canalblog.com%2Farchives%2F2016%2F03%2F18%2F33531648.html&edit-text=&act=url
anti-pedo sites are taked down by gov but pedo ones stay up??!
"It had to happen: "justice" considers that it is time to get tough. After the mini-campaign of media propaganda intended to discredit the action of the anti-pedo association,...
"...probably seized a complaint troll. They are reproached for the publication of pedophile content, namely screenshots of sites and Facebook pages denounced many times but still online.
These sites and pages are often denounced hundreds of times but remain "conform to the standards" of Facebook, as sites such as "the bachelor", they remain miraculously accessible for years although the remarks held there and the links Which are published therein are particularly dangerous to children. "
" In France, more than a dozen families recognized his children on some snapshots, but no question of investigating. Yvon Tallec, a prosecutor at the mines' parquet in Paris, told the JT de France 2 [2] in 2000 : "A number of these photographs come from magazines where miners were photographed, most of the time not only with their agreement , But the agreement of their parents Some of the photographs are very old materials ", and he therefore appealed to" minimize, at least in France, the scope of this case, since many children presented here do not Are not French children ". Recall that the "images" were also often scenes of rape of children, sometimes accompanied by tortures."
// okey yes i hope they blurred the body parts in whole picture, at least, common sense
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdondevamos.canalblog.com%2Farchives%2F2016%2F03%2F18%2F33531648.html&edit-text=&act=url
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10 April 2017 14:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kaladest rääkides, oma väiksuse kohta see kala ikka päris haige sedasi vaadates https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGqf-WyYTUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGqf-WyYTUc
10 April 2017 13:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siin täpsemini, kuigi teine kass hoiatab, ja tirib füüsiliselt eemale, teades, tunnetades ohtu... aga ikka.. uudishimulikus ja ülbus... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIHYXRmsZ54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIHYXRmsZ54
10 April 2017 13:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi miskid kahtlased kalad võivad kassi ennast ka nahka panna . D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlcHLTenioA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlcHLTenioA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlcHLTenioA
10 April 2017 13:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid jah, ega see värske piim eriti mõistlik pole kuid hapendatult ta seda ka jooma ei hakka, ja pealegi, kui on valida, kas mitte midagi või see, siis see on ikka parem kui mitte midagi, päevi.
Eks oleneb kassi organismist ka kuid jah... saan aru, vaja hoida looduslikult suunal millest kast pärit on (terve suguosa kasse on eeltatvasti pärit AINULT kala söögilistest kassidest, ehk kassidest kelle naturaale toit on kainult kala, kuid muidugi.. ega siin rassiteooriat kassi osas ka varsti enam teha lubata.. )
Eks oleneb kassi organismist ka kuid jah... saan aru, vaja hoida looduslikult suunal millest kast pärit on (terve suguosa kasse on eeltatvasti pärit AINULT kala söögilistest kassidest, ehk kassidest kelle naturaale toit on kainult kala, kuid muidugi.. ega siin rassiteooriat kassi osas ka varsti enam teha lubata.. )
10 April 2017 13:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kassile sobib ka Kala,
Väga sobib,
Kuid jah, ega neid kalkuneid ja asju siin eriti ei ole võimalik leida niisama metsavahelt, mul suur asi kui saan kuus ühe vorstigi talle ostetud ja seda siin kaks nädalat viilutame..
Kuid jha, kalast sööb ennast ta küll segaseks, alati, see suht kahtlane, et mis selles kalas nii head on, et nad ennast pea lõhki söövad. Ju ikka midagi on
Väga sobib,
Kuid jah, ega neid kalkuneid ja asju siin eriti ei ole võimalik leida niisama metsavahelt, mul suur asi kui saan kuus ühe vorstigi talle ostetud ja seda siin kaks nädalat viilutame..
Kuid jha, kalast sööb ennast ta küll segaseks, alati, see suht kahtlane, et mis selles kalas nii head on, et nad ennast pea lõhki söövad. Ju ikka midagi on
10 April 2017 13:23
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Most beautiful thing You can say : )
10 April 2017 13:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jup, postitasin jah selles osas vast kunagi, et ega see pole Minig uudis mul, sest PÄRIS islamlased ehk jumalarahvas saavad Päris jumalarahvast ehk juutidest aru, ja elevad koos kristlastega nii kuidas vaja, muidugi eks neil omavahel ka vaja vb veel lõimuda kuskile maani, kuid kultuuriliselt ei ole kommunstliku, rooma impeeriumi maigulist pealiskaudset susimist ja aalarengut
10 April 2017 13:19
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
muidugi enne võib uurida, et kui keegi siiralt tõsimeeli, mitte hullusest või palgatööst ei lärma, et mis mureks ja ehk saab suunata arusaamale
10 April 2017 13:05
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
eks leebem ongi see mis enamus on, kogu paraadna peale piisab ühest kisajast, et kogu naabruskond teaks, et selles kohas on lärm.
Vaja lärmajad targemalt likvideerida
Vaja lärmajad targemalt likvideerida
10 April 2017 13:04
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
shaving is mostly satsans work
10 April 2017 07:25
Margus Meigo replied to Alter Ed Native's comment.
as long you top it up in the end again with mushrooms, an when ready, then come to red ones
10 April 2017 07:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jup
10 April 2017 07:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mushrooms
10 April 2017 07:06
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
for some reason i think it is connected with ur last video: https://www.facebook.com/TransWorldSkate/videos/10154911596434627/
10 April 2017 05:59
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
still this pain will be hard to imagine
10 April 2017 05:56
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
considering the time that a lot is cloned they all perfectly fine
10 April 2017 05:54
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
that make totally sense even to my religious mind
10 April 2017 05:52
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
Nice ones!
Wooden bowl making was neat!
Wooden bowl making was neat!
10 April 2017 05:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
keet the hair, seriously
10 April 2017 04:36
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ROCKVILLE, MD, February 2, 2004 - NFR Security, Inc., a leader in Intelligent Intrusion Management, today announced the addition of Marcus Ranum and Peiter Mudge Zatko to its technical advisory board to provide the company with strategic counsel and insight on technology and infosecurity trends, as well as help guide the long-term development of NFR Security’s flagship product, NFR Sentivist.
Marcus Ranum, a world-renowned expert on security system design and implementation, has joined the board to offer insight on where the industry is heading and how NFR Security’s technology can continue to expand to support the changing security landscape. Ranum is recognized as the inventor of the proxy firewall, and the implementor of the first commercial firewall product. In addition, he is the founder of NFR Security, where he designed NFR Security’s original Network Flight Recorder intrusion detection system. In 2001, he was awarded the TISC "Clue" award for service to the security community, and the ISSA Lifetime Achievement Award.
"Accurate intrusion detection is a key element to the successful future of network security, and it must continuously grow to meet the ever changing dynamics of network attacks," stated Ranum. "I look forward to working closely with NFR Security to continue to evolve its product to meet the day-to-day security challenges in the world of IT."
In addition, internationally recognized Peiter Mudge Zatko, Chief Scientist of Intrusic, Inc., joins other members of the technical advisory board..
https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20040326191509/http://www.nfr.net/news/detail.php?id=225
Marcus Ranum, a world-renowned expert on security system design and implementation, has joined the board to offer insight on where the industry is heading and how NFR Security’s technology can continue to expand to support the changing security landscape. Ranum is recognized as the inventor of the proxy firewall, and the implementor of the first commercial firewall product. In addition, he is the founder of NFR Security, where he designed NFR Security’s original Network Flight Recorder intrusion detection system. In 2001, he was awarded the TISC "Clue" award for service to the security community, and the ISSA Lifetime Achievement Award.
"Accurate intrusion detection is a key element to the successful future of network security, and it must continuously grow to meet the ever changing dynamics of network attacks," stated Ranum. "I look forward to working closely with NFR Security to continue to evolve its product to meet the day-to-day security challenges in the world of IT."
In addition, internationally recognized Peiter Mudge Zatko, Chief Scientist of Intrusic, Inc., joins other members of the technical advisory board..
https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20040326191509/http://www.nfr.net/news/detail.php?id=225
https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20040326191509/http://www.nfr.net/news/detail.php?id=225
10 April 2017 04:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
/// and what did Darpa start in 2013 again?
" DARPA says goodbye to hacker-friendly Cyber Fast Track program
Looking to circumvent the typical onerous, long-term process of funding grants, the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) used the program to improve the government’s ability to keep up with fast-moving bad actors on the cybercriminal stage.
"For the time and money currently invested for one program, the government is striving to engage in dozens of programs,” DARPA explained in its mission statement for the program. “The government needs agile cyber projects that are smaller in effort, have a potential for large payoff, and result in a rapid turnaround, creating a greater cost to the adversary to counter.”
Since its launch in fall 2011, CFT has offered fast-track access to grants for a range of short-term security projects, including Charlie Miller’s NFC security research and Moxie Marlinspike's Convergence system, according to Kaspersky Lab. More recently, grants have been used for investigating forensic evidence on Mac OS X-based machines, and “developing software in support of a command and control system for disposable computers that are dropped from a drone into an area of interest,” Nextgov reported.
The program will be shutting its doors to new submissions on April 1, after an 18-month experimental run. In total, CFT received nearly 400 proposals over the course of the program, and bestowed grants to 101 of them.
The project was headed up by Peiter Zatko, who under the handle Mudge was a member of the L0pht hacking collective before joining the federal government as a grey-hat hacker. "CFT is ending because it was an experiment,” he noted, speaking at the CanSecWest conference in Vancouver this week. “DARPA isn't an open organization. We were looking for a new way to work with people.”
He added, "The back end is what's designed to transition so other large organizations can use this. I hope they look for more people who look at this and say, Mudge did it and he got out mostly intact."
Zatko noted that turning to the dark side for ideas was a savvy strategy for the government. "We oftentimes forget in security that your adversary has good ideas too,” he said. “People forget that there are game theoretics involved. If you make a change, they don't just pack up their ball and go home."
Indeed they don’t. In fact, hackers are likely to make use of vendors’ own security bulletins and evolutions to find new vectors. Zatko said, for instance, about 28% of the vulnerabilities introduced every month are lifted from defensive technologies. "Trying to reduce predictable complexity with more predictable complexity is a bad strategy," he concluded.
https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/darpa-says-goodbye-to-hacker-friendly-cyber-fast/
" DARPA says goodbye to hacker-friendly Cyber Fast Track program
Looking to circumvent the typical onerous, long-term process of funding grants, the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) used the program to improve the government’s ability to keep up with fast-moving bad actors on the cybercriminal stage.
"For the time and money currently invested for one program, the government is striving to engage in dozens of programs,” DARPA explained in its mission statement for the program. “The government needs agile cyber projects that are smaller in effort, have a potential for large payoff, and result in a rapid turnaround, creating a greater cost to the adversary to counter.”
Since its launch in fall 2011, CFT has offered fast-track access to grants for a range of short-term security projects, including Charlie Miller’s NFC security research and Moxie Marlinspike's Convergence system, according to Kaspersky Lab. More recently, grants have been used for investigating forensic evidence on Mac OS X-based machines, and “developing software in support of a command and control system for disposable computers that are dropped from a drone into an area of interest,” Nextgov reported.
The program will be shutting its doors to new submissions on April 1, after an 18-month experimental run. In total, CFT received nearly 400 proposals over the course of the program, and bestowed grants to 101 of them.
The project was headed up by Peiter Zatko, who under the handle Mudge was a member of the L0pht hacking collective before joining the federal government as a grey-hat hacker. "CFT is ending because it was an experiment,” he noted, speaking at the CanSecWest conference in Vancouver this week. “DARPA isn't an open organization. We were looking for a new way to work with people.”
He added, "The back end is what's designed to transition so other large organizations can use this. I hope they look for more people who look at this and say, Mudge did it and he got out mostly intact."
Zatko noted that turning to the dark side for ideas was a savvy strategy for the government. "We oftentimes forget in security that your adversary has good ideas too,” he said. “People forget that there are game theoretics involved. If you make a change, they don't just pack up their ball and go home."
Indeed they don’t. In fact, hackers are likely to make use of vendors’ own security bulletins and evolutions to find new vectors. Zatko said, for instance, about 28% of the vulnerabilities introduced every month are lifted from defensive technologies. "Trying to reduce predictable complexity with more predictable complexity is a bad strategy," he concluded.
https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/darpa-says-goodbye-to-hacker-friendly-cyber-fast/
https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/darpa-says-goodbye-to-hacker-friendly-cyber-fast/
10 April 2017 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// step back down, a softer, in a way . A bit old one
UL is an American safety consulting and certification company headquartered in Northbrook, Illinois. It maintains offices in 46 countries. Established in 1894 as the Underwriters' Electrical Bureau (a bureau of the National Board of Fire Underwriters),[1] it was known throughout the 20th century as Underwriters Laboratories and participated in the safety analysis of many of that century's new technologies, most notably the public adoption of electricity and the drafting of safety standards for electrical devices and components.
UL provides safety-related certification, validation, testing, inspection, auditing, advising and training services to a wide range of clients, including manufacturers, retailers, policymakers, regulators, service companies, and consumers.
UL is one of several companies approved to perform safety testing by the US federal agency Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA). OSHA maintains a list of approved testing laboratories, which are known as Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratories.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UL_(safety_organization)
Predecessor Underwriters Laboratories
Founded 1894; 123 years ago
Founder William Henry Merrill
Area served
104 countries
Key people
Keith Williams (President and CEO)
Number of employees
12,000 (2013)
Website www.ul.com
UL is an American safety consulting and certification company headquartered in Northbrook, Illinois. It maintains offices in 46 countries. Established in 1894 as the Underwriters' Electrical Bureau (a bureau of the National Board of Fire Underwriters),[1] it was known throughout the 20th century as Underwriters Laboratories and participated in the safety analysis of many of that century's new technologies, most notably the public adoption of electricity and the drafting of safety standards for electrical devices and components.
UL provides safety-related certification, validation, testing, inspection, auditing, advising and training services to a wide range of clients, including manufacturers, retailers, policymakers, regulators, service companies, and consumers.
UL is one of several companies approved to perform safety testing by the US federal agency Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA). OSHA maintains a list of approved testing laboratories, which are known as Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratories.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UL_(safety_organization)
Predecessor Underwriters Laboratories
Founded 1894; 123 years ago
Founder William Henry Merrill
Area served
104 countries
Key people
Keith Williams (President and CEO)
Number of employees
12,000 (2013)
Website www.ul.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UL_(safety_organization)
10 April 2017 04:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Raytheon Company is a major U.S. defense contractor and industrial corporation with core manufacturing concentrations in weapons and military and commercial electronics. It was previously involved in corporate and special-mission aircraft until early 2007. Raytheon is the world's largest producer of guided missiles.[5]
Established in 1922, the company reincorporated in 1928 and adopted its present name in 1959. The company has around 63,000 employees worldwide[6] and annual revenues of approximately US$25 billion. More than 90% of Raytheon's revenues were obtained from military contracts and, as of 2012, it was the fifth-largest military contractor in the world.[7] As of 2015, it is the third largest defense contractor in the United States by defense revenue
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Industry Aerospace and defense
Founded Cambridge, Massachusetts, United States (1922)
Founder Vannevar Bush
Laurence K. Marshall
Charles G. Smith
Headquarters Waltham, Massachusetts,
United States
Area served
Worldwide
Key people
Thomas A. Kennedy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raytheon
// alright
Established in 1922, the company reincorporated in 1928 and adopted its present name in 1959. The company has around 63,000 employees worldwide[6] and annual revenues of approximately US$25 billion. More than 90% of Raytheon's revenues were obtained from military contracts and, as of 2012, it was the fifth-largest military contractor in the world.[7] As of 2015, it is the third largest defense contractor in the United States by defense revenue
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Industry Aerospace and defense
Founded Cambridge, Massachusetts, United States (1922)
Founder Vannevar Bush
Laurence K. Marshall
Charles G. Smith
Headquarters Waltham, Massachusetts,
United States
Area served
Worldwide
Key people
Thomas A. Kennedy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raytheon
// alright
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raytheon
10 April 2017 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"BBN Technologies registered the bbn.com domain on April 24, 1985, making it the second oldest domain name on the internet."
// (raytheon redirected it on their page, no respect here)
"BBN Technologies (originally Bolt, Beranek and Newman) is an American high-technology company which provides research and development services. BBN is based next to Fresh Pond in Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA. It is a military contractor, primarily for DARPA, and also known for its 1978 acoustical analysis for the House Select Committee on the assassination of John F. Kennedy.[1] BBN of the 1950s and 1960s has been referred to by two of its alumni as the "third university" of Cambridge, after MIT and Harvard.[2] In 1966, the Franklin Institute awarded the firm the Frank P. Brown Medal.
Ray Tomlinson of BBC Technologies is widely credited as having invented email in 1971. ] BBN Technologies registered the bbn.com domain on April 24, 1985, making it the second oldest domain name on the internet. ] BBN became a wholly owned subsidiary of Raytheon in 2009.
On February 1, 2013, BBN Technologies was awarded the National Medal of Technology and Innovation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBN_Technologies
Type
Subsidiary of Raytheon
Founded 1948; 69 years ago
Founder Leo Beranek and Richard Bolt
Headquarters Cambridge, Massachusetts, US
Website www.bbn.com
A number of well-known computer luminaries have worked at BBN, including Daniel Bobrow, Ron Brachman, John Seely Brown, Jerry Burchfiel, Richard Burton, Edmund Clarke, Allan Collins, Bernie Cosell, William Crowther, John Curran, Wally Feurzeig, Ed Fredkin, Bob Kahn, Stephen Kent,[10] J. C. R. Licklider, John McCarthy, Marvin Minsky, Dan Murphy, Severo Ornstein, Seymour Papert, Oliver Selfridge, Bob Thomas, Ray Tomlinson, and Peiter "Mudge" Zatko.
Former board members include Jim Breyer, Anita K. Jones and Gilman Louie.
In the 1970s, BBN created Telenet, Inc., to run the first public packet-switched network.
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BBN formed an early Internet service provider in 1994 as its BBN Planet division.[12] Previously traded as "BBN" on the stock market, the company was purchased by GTE in 1997 as a wholly owned subsidiary.[13] BBN Planet was joined with GTE's national fiber network to become GTE Internetworking, "powered by BBN".
When GTE and Bell Atlantic merged to become Verizon in 2000, the Internet service provider division of BBN was included in assets spun off as Genuity to satisfy Federal Communications Commission (FCC) requirements, leaving behind the remainder of BBN Technologies. Genuity was later acquired out of bankruptcy by Level 3 Communications in 2003.[14]
In March 2004, Verizon sold the remainder of the company, by then known as BBNT Solutions LLC, to a group of private investors from Accel Partners, General Catalyst Partners, In-Q-Tel and BBN's own management,[15] making BBN an independent company for the next five years.
In September 2009, Raytheon entered into an agreement to acquire BBN as a wholly owned subsidiary.[16] The acquisition was completed on October 29, 2009[17] and the company was valued at approximately $350 million.[18]
In December 2014, the domain name bbn.com, the second oldest currently registered domain name on the Internet, was redirected to www.raytheon.com/ourcompany/bbn/.
Former BBN employees have formed about a hundred startup companies with varying levels of official involvement, including Parlance Corporation and EveryZing.
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BBN was the first networking organization to receive an Autonomous System Number (AS1) for network identification.[27] ASNs are an essential identification element used for Internet Backbone Routing. Lower numbers generally indicate a longer established presence on the Internet. AS1 is now operated by Level 3 Communications following their acquisition of Genuity.
Today, BBN leads a wide range of research and development projects, including the standardization effort for the security extension to the Border Gateway Protocol (BGPsec), mobile ad hoc networks, advanced speech recognition, the military's Boomerang mobile shooter detection system, and quantum cryptography. BBN is also part of the Global Environment for Network Innovations (GENI) project for the National Science Foundation which includes a $11.5 million grant for 33 research teams
// okey whatever
// (raytheon redirected it on their page, no respect here)
"BBN Technologies (originally Bolt, Beranek and Newman) is an American high-technology company which provides research and development services. BBN is based next to Fresh Pond in Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA. It is a military contractor, primarily for DARPA, and also known for its 1978 acoustical analysis for the House Select Committee on the assassination of John F. Kennedy.[1] BBN of the 1950s and 1960s has been referred to by two of its alumni as the "third university" of Cambridge, after MIT and Harvard.[2] In 1966, the Franklin Institute awarded the firm the Frank P. Brown Medal.
Ray Tomlinson of BBC Technologies is widely credited as having invented email in 1971. ] BBN Technologies registered the bbn.com domain on April 24, 1985, making it the second oldest domain name on the internet. ] BBN became a wholly owned subsidiary of Raytheon in 2009.
On February 1, 2013, BBN Technologies was awarded the National Medal of Technology and Innovation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBN_Technologies
Type
Subsidiary of Raytheon
Founded 1948; 69 years ago
Founder Leo Beranek and Richard Bolt
Headquarters Cambridge, Massachusetts, US
Website www.bbn.com
A number of well-known computer luminaries have worked at BBN, including Daniel Bobrow, Ron Brachman, John Seely Brown, Jerry Burchfiel, Richard Burton, Edmund Clarke, Allan Collins, Bernie Cosell, William Crowther, John Curran, Wally Feurzeig, Ed Fredkin, Bob Kahn, Stephen Kent,[10] J. C. R. Licklider, John McCarthy, Marvin Minsky, Dan Murphy, Severo Ornstein, Seymour Papert, Oliver Selfridge, Bob Thomas, Ray Tomlinson, and Peiter "Mudge" Zatko.
Former board members include Jim Breyer, Anita K. Jones and Gilman Louie.
In the 1970s, BBN created Telenet, Inc., to run the first public packet-switched network.
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BBN formed an early Internet service provider in 1994 as its BBN Planet division.[12] Previously traded as "BBN" on the stock market, the company was purchased by GTE in 1997 as a wholly owned subsidiary.[13] BBN Planet was joined with GTE's national fiber network to become GTE Internetworking, "powered by BBN".
When GTE and Bell Atlantic merged to become Verizon in 2000, the Internet service provider division of BBN was included in assets spun off as Genuity to satisfy Federal Communications Commission (FCC) requirements, leaving behind the remainder of BBN Technologies. Genuity was later acquired out of bankruptcy by Level 3 Communications in 2003.[14]
In March 2004, Verizon sold the remainder of the company, by then known as BBNT Solutions LLC, to a group of private investors from Accel Partners, General Catalyst Partners, In-Q-Tel and BBN's own management,[15] making BBN an independent company for the next five years.
In September 2009, Raytheon entered into an agreement to acquire BBN as a wholly owned subsidiary.[16] The acquisition was completed on October 29, 2009[17] and the company was valued at approximately $350 million.[18]
In December 2014, the domain name bbn.com, the second oldest currently registered domain name on the Internet, was redirected to www.raytheon.com/ourcompany/bbn/.
Former BBN employees have formed about a hundred startup companies with varying levels of official involvement, including Parlance Corporation and EveryZing.
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BBN was the first networking organization to receive an Autonomous System Number (AS1) for network identification.[27] ASNs are an essential identification element used for Internet Backbone Routing. Lower numbers generally indicate a longer established presence on the Internet. AS1 is now operated by Level 3 Communications following their acquisition of Genuity.
Today, BBN leads a wide range of research and development projects, including the standardization effort for the security extension to the Border Gateway Protocol (BGPsec), mobile ad hoc networks, advanced speech recognition, the military's Boomerang mobile shooter detection system, and quantum cryptography. BBN is also part of the Global Environment for Network Innovations (GENI) project for the National Science Foundation which includes a $11.5 million grant for 33 research teams
// okey whatever
http://bbn.com/
10 April 2017 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Something serious also, i mean, people are serious:
" The USENIX Association is the Advanced Computing Systems Association. It was founded in 1975 under the name "Unix Users Group," focusing primarily on the study and development of Unix and similar systems. In June 1977, a lawyer from AT&T Corporation informed the group that they could not use the word UNIX as it was a trademark of Western Electric (the manufacturing arm of AT&T until 1995), which led to the change of name to USENIX.[ ] It has since grown into a respected organization among practitioners, developers, and researchers of computer operating systems more generally. Since its founding, it has published a technical journal entitled ;login:.
USENIX was started as a technical organization. As commercial interest grew, a number of separate groups started in parallel, most notably the Software Tools Users Group (STUG), a technical adjunct for Unix-like tools and interface on non-Unix operating systems, and /usr/group, a commercially oriented user group.
USENIX has a special interest group for system administrators, LISA, formerly SAGE.
It sponsors several conferences and workshops each year, most notably the USENIX Symposium on Operating Systems Design and Implementation (OSDI), the USENIX Symposium on Networked Systems Design and Implementation (NSDI), the USENIX Annual Technical Conference, the USENIX Security Symposium, the USENIX Conference on File and Storage Technologies (FAST), and with LISA (formerly SAGE), the Large Installation System Administration Conference (LISA).
USENIX's founding President was Lou Katz.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USENIX
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Formation 1975; 42 years ago
Headquarters Berkeley, California, United States
President
Brian Noble
Website www.usenix.org
" The USENIX Association is the Advanced Computing Systems Association. It was founded in 1975 under the name "Unix Users Group," focusing primarily on the study and development of Unix and similar systems. In June 1977, a lawyer from AT&T Corporation informed the group that they could not use the word UNIX as it was a trademark of Western Electric (the manufacturing arm of AT&T until 1995), which led to the change of name to USENIX.[ ] It has since grown into a respected organization among practitioners, developers, and researchers of computer operating systems more generally. Since its founding, it has published a technical journal entitled ;login:.
USENIX was started as a technical organization. As commercial interest grew, a number of separate groups started in parallel, most notably the Software Tools Users Group (STUG), a technical adjunct for Unix-like tools and interface on non-Unix operating systems, and /usr/group, a commercially oriented user group.
USENIX has a special interest group for system administrators, LISA, formerly SAGE.
It sponsors several conferences and workshops each year, most notably the USENIX Symposium on Operating Systems Design and Implementation (OSDI), the USENIX Symposium on Networked Systems Design and Implementation (NSDI), the USENIX Annual Technical Conference, the USENIX Security Symposium, the USENIX Conference on File and Storage Technologies (FAST), and with LISA (formerly SAGE), the Large Installation System Administration Conference (LISA).
USENIX's founding President was Lou Katz.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USENIX
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Formation 1975; 42 years ago
Headquarters Berkeley, California, United States
President
Brian Noble
Website www.usenix.org
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USENIX
10 April 2017 04:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//would nbe nice to take look at this culture code part
"The project started in 2003."
" Tactical Language & Culture Training Systems are PC-based courses that teach foreign languages and cultural knowledge needed to conduct tasks effectively and safely during both daily life and military missions. They are self-paced foreign-language training programs that use numerous research-based pedagogic and technologic innovations—including interactive 3D video game simulations—to teach what to say, how to say it, and when to say it. The courses to learn Iraqi, Pashto, French, and Dari {under development} are available to any member of the U.S. Armed Forces by free download from the company's website.
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DARWARS is sponsored by the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and is co-sponsored by U.S. Joint Forces Command (JFCOM) and the United States Marine Corps Program Manager for Training Systems (PM TRASYS). The integration and architecture contractor for the DARWARS project is BBN Technologies. The program is the core DARPA's Training Superiority initiative.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARWARS
"The project started in 2003."
" Tactical Language & Culture Training Systems are PC-based courses that teach foreign languages and cultural knowledge needed to conduct tasks effectively and safely during both daily life and military missions. They are self-paced foreign-language training programs that use numerous research-based pedagogic and technologic innovations—including interactive 3D video game simulations—to teach what to say, how to say it, and when to say it. The courses to learn Iraqi, Pashto, French, and Dari {under development} are available to any member of the U.S. Armed Forces by free download from the company's website.
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DARWARS is sponsored by the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and is co-sponsored by U.S. Joint Forces Command (JFCOM) and the United States Marine Corps Program Manager for Training Systems (PM TRASYS). The integration and architecture contractor for the DARWARS project is BBN Technologies. The program is the core DARPA's Training Superiority initiative.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARWARS
10 April 2017 04:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 April 2017 04:21
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10 April 2017 04:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"@stake was subsequently acquired by Symantec in 2004."
ATstake, Inc. was a computer security professional services company in Cambridge, Massachusetts, United States. It was founded in 1999 by Battery Ventures (Tom Crotty, Sunil Dhaliwal, and Scott Tobin) and Ted Julian. Its initial core team of technologists included Dan Geer (Chief Technical Officer) and the east coast security team from Cambridge Technology Partners (including Dave Goldsmith). In January 2000, @stake acquired L0pht Heavy Industries (who were known for their many hacker employees), bringing on Mudge as its Vice President of Research and Development. Its domain name was atstake.com. In July 2000, @stake acquired Cerberus Information Security Limited of London, England, from David and Mark Litchfield and Robert Stein-Rostaing, to be their launchpad into Europe, the Middle East and Africa. @stake was subsequently acquired by Symantec in 2004.
In addition to Dan Geer and Mudge, @stake employed many famous security experts including Dildog, Dave Aitel, David Litchfield, Mark Kriegsman, Mike Schiffman, and Chris Wysopal.
In September 2000, an @stake recruiter contacted Mark Abene to recruit him for a security consultant position. The recruiter was apparently unaware of his past felony conviction since @stake had a policy of not hiring convicted hackers. Mark was informed by a company representative that @stake could not hire him, saying: "We ran a background check." This caused some debate regarding the role of convicted hackers working in the security business.
@stake was primarily a consulting company, but also offered information security training through the @stake academy, and created a number of software security tools:
LC 3, LC 4 and LC 5 were versions of a password auditing and recovery tool also known as L0phtCrack
WebProxy was a security testing tool for Web applications
SmartRisk Analyzer was an application security analysis tool
The @stake Sleuth Kit (TASK) was an open source digital forensics tool (now called The Sleuth Kit).
Symantec later stopped selling LC5 to new customers citing US Government export regulations, and discontinued support in December 2006.[1] In January 2009, L0phtCrack was acquired by the original authors from Symantec; L0phtCrack 6 was announced at the SOURCE Boston Conference on March 11, 2009.[2] The technology underlying SmartRisk Analyzer was extended, and eventually brought to market by the Symantec spinoff Veracode.
Symantec announced its acquisition of @stake on September 16, 2004[3] and completed the transaction on October 9, 2004.[4] Several members of @Stake left to form the computer security company "iSEC Partners"[5] in 2004. Former @stake academy instructors Rob Cheyne and Paul Hinkle later formed the information security training company "Safelight Security Advisors"[6] in 2007. The remaining portion of the @Stake consulting group continues to operate as the "Security Advisory Services"[7] team within Symantec's Security Business Practice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/@stake
ATstake, Inc. was a computer security professional services company in Cambridge, Massachusetts, United States. It was founded in 1999 by Battery Ventures (Tom Crotty, Sunil Dhaliwal, and Scott Tobin) and Ted Julian. Its initial core team of technologists included Dan Geer (Chief Technical Officer) and the east coast security team from Cambridge Technology Partners (including Dave Goldsmith). In January 2000, @stake acquired L0pht Heavy Industries (who were known for their many hacker employees), bringing on Mudge as its Vice President of Research and Development. Its domain name was atstake.com. In July 2000, @stake acquired Cerberus Information Security Limited of London, England, from David and Mark Litchfield and Robert Stein-Rostaing, to be their launchpad into Europe, the Middle East and Africa. @stake was subsequently acquired by Symantec in 2004.
In addition to Dan Geer and Mudge, @stake employed many famous security experts including Dildog, Dave Aitel, David Litchfield, Mark Kriegsman, Mike Schiffman, and Chris Wysopal.
In September 2000, an @stake recruiter contacted Mark Abene to recruit him for a security consultant position. The recruiter was apparently unaware of his past felony conviction since @stake had a policy of not hiring convicted hackers. Mark was informed by a company representative that @stake could not hire him, saying: "We ran a background check." This caused some debate regarding the role of convicted hackers working in the security business.
@stake was primarily a consulting company, but also offered information security training through the @stake academy, and created a number of software security tools:
LC 3, LC 4 and LC 5 were versions of a password auditing and recovery tool also known as L0phtCrack
WebProxy was a security testing tool for Web applications
SmartRisk Analyzer was an application security analysis tool
The @stake Sleuth Kit (TASK) was an open source digital forensics tool (now called The Sleuth Kit).
Symantec later stopped selling LC5 to new customers citing US Government export regulations, and discontinued support in December 2006.[1] In January 2009, L0phtCrack was acquired by the original authors from Symantec; L0phtCrack 6 was announced at the SOURCE Boston Conference on March 11, 2009.[2] The technology underlying SmartRisk Analyzer was extended, and eventually brought to market by the Symantec spinoff Veracode.
Symantec announced its acquisition of @stake on September 16, 2004[3] and completed the transaction on October 9, 2004.[4] Several members of @Stake left to form the computer security company "iSEC Partners"[5] in 2004. Former @stake academy instructors Rob Cheyne and Paul Hinkle later formed the information security training company "Safelight Security Advisors"[6] in 2007. The remaining portion of the @Stake consulting group continues to operate as the "Security Advisory Services"[7] team within Symantec's Security Business Practice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/@stake
http://atstake.com/
10 April 2017 04:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 April 2017 04:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//for mommies :
"DEF CON (also written as DEFCON, Defcon, or DC) is one of the world's largest annual hacker conventions, held annually in Las Vegas, Nevada, with the first DEF CON taking place in June 1993. Many of the attendees at DEF CON include computer security professionals, journalists, lawyers, federal government employees..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEF_CON
"DEF CON (also written as DEFCON, Defcon, or DC) is one of the world's largest annual hacker conventions, held annually in Las Vegas, Nevada, with the first DEF CON taking place in June 1993. Many of the attendees at DEF CON include computer security professionals, journalists, lawyers, federal government employees..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEF_CON
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEF_CON
10 April 2017 04:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Example: "Ac1dB1tch3z would like to say FUCK YOU Ben Hawkes "
http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2010/Sep/268
From: ac1db1tch3z () gmail com
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:08:23 -0700 (PDT)
/*
Ac1dB1tch3z Vs Linux Kernel x86_64 0day
Today is a sad day..
R.I.P.
Tue, 29 Apr 2008 / Tue, 7 Sep 2010
a bit of history:
MCAST_MSFILTER Compat mode bug found... upon commit! (2 year life on this one)
author David L Stevens <dlstevens () us ibm com>
Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:23:22 +0000 (03:23 -0700)
committer David S. Miller <davem () davemloft net>
Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:23:22 +0000 (03:23 -0700)
This patch adds support for getsockopt for MCAST_MSFILTER for
both IPv4 and IPv6. It depends on the previous setsockopt patch,
and uses the same method.
Signed-off-by: David L Stevens <dlstevens () us ibm com>
Signed-off-by: YOSHIFUJI Hideaki <yoshfuji () linux-ipv6 org>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem () davemloft net>
------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks you for signing-off on this one guys.
This exploit has been tested very thoroughly
over the course of the past few years on many many targets.
Thanks to redhat for being nice enough to backport it into early
kernel versions (anything from later August 2008+)
Ac1dB1tch3z would like to say FUCK YOU Ben Hawkes. You are a new hero! You saved the
plan8 man. Just a bit too l8.
PS:
OpenVZ Payload / GRsec bypass removed for kidiots and fame whores. (same thing right ;))
*/
Exploit attached. Another 0day bites the dust and goes into our public exploit pack :)
Ac1dB1tch3z brings you ABftw.c - Linux Kernel x86_64 local not0dayanymore exploit.
Attachment: ABftw.c
Description:
_______________________________________________
Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2010/Sep/268
From: ac1db1tch3z () gmail com
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:08:23 -0700 (PDT)
/*
Ac1dB1tch3z Vs Linux Kernel x86_64 0day
Today is a sad day..
R.I.P.
Tue, 29 Apr 2008 / Tue, 7 Sep 2010
a bit of history:
MCAST_MSFILTER Compat mode bug found... upon commit! (2 year life on this one)
author David L Stevens <dlstevens () us ibm com>
Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:23:22 +0000 (03:23 -0700)
committer David S. Miller <davem () davemloft net>
Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:23:22 +0000 (03:23 -0700)
This patch adds support for getsockopt for MCAST_MSFILTER for
both IPv4 and IPv6. It depends on the previous setsockopt patch,
and uses the same method.
Signed-off-by: David L Stevens <dlstevens () us ibm com>
Signed-off-by: YOSHIFUJI Hideaki <yoshfuji () linux-ipv6 org>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem () davemloft net>
------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks you for signing-off on this one guys.
This exploit has been tested very thoroughly
over the course of the past few years on many many targets.
Thanks to redhat for being nice enough to backport it into early
kernel versions (anything from later August 2008+)
Ac1dB1tch3z would like to say FUCK YOU Ben Hawkes. You are a new hero! You saved the
plan8 man. Just a bit too l8.
PS:
OpenVZ Payload / GRsec bypass removed for kidiots and fame whores. (same thing right ;))
*/
Exploit attached. Another 0day bites the dust and goes into our public exploit pack :)
Ac1dB1tch3z brings you ABftw.c - Linux Kernel x86_64 local not0dayanymore exploit.
Attachment: ABftw.c
Description:
_______________________________________________
Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
http://seclists.org/images/fulldisclosure-img.png
10 April 2017 04:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
innit that same with all crime and corruption, and underdevelopment issues with species:
"In the field of computer security, independent researchers often discover flaws in software that can be abused to cause unintended behaviour, these flaws are called vulnerabilities. The process by which the analysis of these vulnerabilities is shared with third parties is the subject of much debate, and is referred to as the researcher’s disclosure policy. Full disclosure is the practice of publishing analysis of software vulnerabilities as early as possible, making the data accessible to everyone without restriction. The primary purpose of widely disseminating information about vulnerabilities is so that potential victims are as knowledgeable as those who attack them.
In his essay on the topic, Bruce Schneier stated "Full disclosure -- the practice of making the details of security vulnerabilities public -- is a damned good idea. Public scrutiny is the only reliable way to improve security, while secrecy only makes us less secure".[ Leonard Rose, co-creator of an electronic mailing list that has superseded bugtraq to become the de facto forum for disseminating advisories, explains "We don't believe in security by obscurity, and as far as we know, full disclosure is the only way to ensure that everyone, not just the insiders, have access to the information we need."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_disclosure_(computer_security)
https://web.archive.org/web/20060328012516/http://infosecuritymag.techtarget.com/articles/january01/columns_curmudgeons_corner.shtml
https://www.schneier.com/essay-146.html
https://lists.grok.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/full-disclosure
"In the field of computer security, independent researchers often discover flaws in software that can be abused to cause unintended behaviour, these flaws are called vulnerabilities. The process by which the analysis of these vulnerabilities is shared with third parties is the subject of much debate, and is referred to as the researcher’s disclosure policy. Full disclosure is the practice of publishing analysis of software vulnerabilities as early as possible, making the data accessible to everyone without restriction. The primary purpose of widely disseminating information about vulnerabilities is so that potential victims are as knowledgeable as those who attack them.
In his essay on the topic, Bruce Schneier stated "Full disclosure -- the practice of making the details of security vulnerabilities public -- is a damned good idea. Public scrutiny is the only reliable way to improve security, while secrecy only makes us less secure".[ Leonard Rose, co-creator of an electronic mailing list that has superseded bugtraq to become the de facto forum for disseminating advisories, explains "We don't believe in security by obscurity, and as far as we know, full disclosure is the only way to ensure that everyone, not just the insiders, have access to the information we need."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_disclosure_(computer_security)
https://web.archive.org/web/20060328012516/http://infosecuritymag.techtarget.com/articles/january01/columns_curmudgeons_corner.shtml
https://www.schneier.com/essay-146.html
https://lists.grok.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/full-disclosure
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_disclosure_(computer_security)
10 April 2017 03:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
seems almost naive now innit.it so
10 April 2017 03:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ooyea, Backoffice times, who not remember these, like good MTV songs that come on to your home after times when You had to had high level insider to smuggle in some Vinyls in Soviet time:
"https://web.archive.org/web/20050502171648/http://attrition.org:80/errata/www/ao.016.html
""RUNNING A MICROSOFT OPERATING SYSTEM ON A NETWORK?
OUR CONDOLENCES."
A press release sent out in July of 1998 by The Deth Vegetable, who is the
"Minister of Propaganda" for the cDc, announced the imminent release of
Back Orifice. Back Orifice is a windows trojan developed by the cDc which, according to Wired News (Nov-17-98), 79% of Australian ISPs became "infected" with.
The correlation? The Deth Vegetable, as well as several other Cult Of The Dead Cow Members (including Mudge and DilDog) are also members of
L0pht Heavy Industries (according to membership lists posted on both cultdeadcow.com and l0pht.com).
[This is a blatant error. At no time has The Deth Vegetable (sic) been
a 'member' of the l0pht. In fact, L0pht Heavy Industries is a COMPANY. It has
EMPLOYEES, not MEMBERS. Death Vegetable is not an employee nor a member of
the l0pht. Mudge and Dildog are MEMBERS of the cDc group as outli
---
From: "Dr. Mudge" (mudge@l0pht.com)
To: jericho@attrition.org
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 07:22:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: hey there..
Our current roster runs:
Mudge
Dildog
Silicosis
SpaceRogue
Kingpin
Brian Oblivion
Weld Pond
John Tan
---
Just recently, Network Flight Recorder (NFR) Inc. announced the release of a
commercial product called "BackOfficer Friendly", which, at $10/machine,
"identifies attacks from Back Orifice, one of the nastier hacking applications
currently being perpetrated on the Internet", according to the NFR.net
website.
"As far as I'm concerned, an ethical problem would exist in people doing
security work that are also releasing tools useful to hackers, and if that's the
case, its l0pht's problem, not ours." NFR's CEO Marcus J. Ranum told
AntiOnline in a phone interview Wednesday afternoon.
Marcus Ranum told AntiOnline that L0pht had no direct involvement in the
development of "BackOfficer Friendly", but then conceded that they were
given a beta version of the software, and that they pointed out several flaws
["conceded"? This implies he was caught in a lie when he clearly
was not. Beta testing software often has NOTHING to do with
developing it.]
which allowed him to "update the software to make it run better". Further,
Marcus Ranum forwarded to AntiOnline several e-mail conversations he had
with Sir Dystic (the author of Back Orifice), about problems with his
BackOfficer Software.
[What better resource to tap for a product? Sir Dystic is a member
of cDc, not the l0pht.]
AntiOnline asked Marcus Ranum if any of the individuals who were involved
in the creation of Back Orifice were also working on the Network Flight
Recorder Software "Not that I know of, and I don't want to know either. As a
matter of courtesy, I play the game, and don't even ask them who they really
are. Frankly, I like it that way. Sir Dystic could really be Mudge for all I
know."
Mr. Ranum concluded, "If you're going to be doing a story about how NFR is
doing shady and questionable things, I don't think that would be very nice. If
you want to point to egregious things in the security industry, you can find a lot
better examples out there than us [...] I've got a business to run, and that
means going to the best sources for information, if those sources of information
are also involved with part of the source of the problem, then that's
unfortunate".
[And despite this advice from Mr. Ranum, Antionline still chose to
attempt to drag NFR, the l0pht, and cDc through the mud. It is more interesting
that Mr. Vranasevich contacted Marcus Ranum, but didn't contact anyone at the
l0pht, yet quoted THEIR name in the title of this piece.]
______________
http://www.antionline.com/cgi-bin/Print?type=antionline&date=05-03-1999&story=l0pht.news
[Before you continue, it should be noted that John Vranasevich and the
AntiOnline staff did NOT contact anyone at the l0pht about any piece of
this story. In fact, Space Rogue mailed Mr. Vranasevich shortly after
this piece and said:
"It is unfortunate that you chose not to contact us prior to writing
your 'article'. We would have been more than happy to provide you with
information and clear up the factual inaccuracies that you mention."
The L0pht Dichotomy
Wednesday, May 5, 1999 at 15:59:50
by John Vranesevich - Founder of AntiOnline
"L0pht to use extensive knowledge of attack signatures to expand filter
set for NFR software"
A press release sent out by Network Flight Recorder, Inc. in March of this
year read. The famed L0pht Heavy Industries Inc. announced the forming of a
strategic relationship with Network Flight Recorder Inc. to provide backends
for the Network Flight Recorder Intrusion Detection Software.
[For those of you not familiar with NFR products, their IDS and
their Back Officer products are not the same.]
"https://web.archive.org/web/20050502171648/http://attrition.org:80/errata/www/ao.016.html
""RUNNING A MICROSOFT OPERATING SYSTEM ON A NETWORK?
OUR CONDOLENCES."
A press release sent out in July of 1998 by The Deth Vegetable, who is the
"Minister of Propaganda" for the cDc, announced the imminent release of
Back Orifice. Back Orifice is a windows trojan developed by the cDc which, according to Wired News (Nov-17-98), 79% of Australian ISPs became "infected" with.
The correlation? The Deth Vegetable, as well as several other Cult Of The Dead Cow Members (including Mudge and DilDog) are also members of
L0pht Heavy Industries (according to membership lists posted on both cultdeadcow.com and l0pht.com).
[This is a blatant error. At no time has The Deth Vegetable (sic) been
a 'member' of the l0pht. In fact, L0pht Heavy Industries is a COMPANY. It has
EMPLOYEES, not MEMBERS. Death Vegetable is not an employee nor a member of
the l0pht. Mudge and Dildog are MEMBERS of the cDc group as outli
---
From: "Dr. Mudge" (mudge@l0pht.com)
To: jericho@attrition.org
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 07:22:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: hey there..
Our current roster runs:
Mudge
Dildog
Silicosis
SpaceRogue
Kingpin
Brian Oblivion
Weld Pond
John Tan
---
Just recently, Network Flight Recorder (NFR) Inc. announced the release of a
commercial product called "BackOfficer Friendly", which, at $10/machine,
"identifies attacks from Back Orifice, one of the nastier hacking applications
currently being perpetrated on the Internet", according to the NFR.net
website.
"As far as I'm concerned, an ethical problem would exist in people doing
security work that are also releasing tools useful to hackers, and if that's the
case, its l0pht's problem, not ours." NFR's CEO Marcus J. Ranum told
AntiOnline in a phone interview Wednesday afternoon.
Marcus Ranum told AntiOnline that L0pht had no direct involvement in the
development of "BackOfficer Friendly", but then conceded that they were
given a beta version of the software, and that they pointed out several flaws
["conceded"? This implies he was caught in a lie when he clearly
was not. Beta testing software often has NOTHING to do with
developing it.]
which allowed him to "update the software to make it run better". Further,
Marcus Ranum forwarded to AntiOnline several e-mail conversations he had
with Sir Dystic (the author of Back Orifice), about problems with his
BackOfficer Software.
[What better resource to tap for a product? Sir Dystic is a member
of cDc, not the l0pht.]
AntiOnline asked Marcus Ranum if any of the individuals who were involved
in the creation of Back Orifice were also working on the Network Flight
Recorder Software "Not that I know of, and I don't want to know either. As a
matter of courtesy, I play the game, and don't even ask them who they really
are. Frankly, I like it that way. Sir Dystic could really be Mudge for all I
know."
Mr. Ranum concluded, "If you're going to be doing a story about how NFR is
doing shady and questionable things, I don't think that would be very nice. If
you want to point to egregious things in the security industry, you can find a lot
better examples out there than us [...] I've got a business to run, and that
means going to the best sources for information, if those sources of information
are also involved with part of the source of the problem, then that's
unfortunate".
[And despite this advice from Mr. Ranum, Antionline still chose to
attempt to drag NFR, the l0pht, and cDc through the mud. It is more interesting
that Mr. Vranasevich contacted Marcus Ranum, but didn't contact anyone at the
l0pht, yet quoted THEIR name in the title of this piece.]
______________
http://www.antionline.com/cgi-bin/Print?type=antionline&date=05-03-1999&story=l0pht.news
[Before you continue, it should be noted that John Vranasevich and the
AntiOnline staff did NOT contact anyone at the l0pht about any piece of
this story. In fact, Space Rogue mailed Mr. Vranasevich shortly after
this piece and said:
"It is unfortunate that you chose not to contact us prior to writing
your 'article'. We would have been more than happy to provide you with
information and clear up the factual inaccuracies that you mention."
The L0pht Dichotomy
Wednesday, May 5, 1999 at 15:59:50
by John Vranesevich - Founder of AntiOnline
"L0pht to use extensive knowledge of attack signatures to expand filter
set for NFR software"
A press release sent out by Network Flight Recorder, Inc. in March of this
year read. The famed L0pht Heavy Industries Inc. announced the forming of a
strategic relationship with Network Flight Recorder Inc. to provide backends
for the Network Flight Recorder Intrusion Detection Software.
[For those of you not familiar with NFR products, their IDS and
their Back Officer products are not the same.]
https://web.archive.org/web/20050502171648/http://attrition.org:80/errata/www/ao.016.html
10 April 2017 03:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"
On "How to write Buffer Overflows"
I just read this "paper" (which this article calls pioneering) and found it rather unremarkable. Is it true that these techniques were not known in '95? I tend to doubt it. Maybe unknown to the general public, and even unknown to most programmers, but I'm sure a particular niche of programmer was well aware of it and could have written a much better treatment of the subject. What mudge himself writes seems to show a general lack of understanding; for instance he calls x86 instructions "commands", and to find the machine code he instructs the reader to write C code with asm() statements, use GCC and look at the binary, when using a simple assembler would do. 174.31.231.72 (talk) 17:58, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
The paper is simplistic by modern standards. But, at the time there were no other papers available on the topic. Hard to believe, but true. This was one of the earliest public papers on the subject. Buffer overflows had only just been demonstrated by groups such as 8lgm but details about how they worked was being held a close secret. Jeff Moss acknowledged at BlackHat 2011 that Aleph1's Phrack paper (smashing the stack for fun and profit) was written after he (Elias aka Aleph1) had requested and received an early copy of the Mudge paper. So Mudge's paper qualifies as pioneering. x86 instructions being referred to as "commands" is non-standard, but acceptable when referencing opcodes and operands. Dr. T.C. Pip (talk) 20:09, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
I'll add one thing: If you look at the number of buffer overflows in the wild, you'll see a huge spike after the publication of Aleph1's paper, which never went away. Before that paper, buffer overflows were rare; afterwards, common. So, yes, historically speaking, the paper was 100% pioneering. It's a tribute to its success that it's now considered common knowledge Int80 (talk) 02:57, 6 February 2013 (UTC)"
On "How to write Buffer Overflows"
I just read this "paper" (which this article calls pioneering) and found it rather unremarkable. Is it true that these techniques were not known in '95? I tend to doubt it. Maybe unknown to the general public, and even unknown to most programmers, but I'm sure a particular niche of programmer was well aware of it and could have written a much better treatment of the subject. What mudge himself writes seems to show a general lack of understanding; for instance he calls x86 instructions "commands", and to find the machine code he instructs the reader to write C code with asm() statements, use GCC and look at the binary, when using a simple assembler would do. 174.31.231.72 (talk) 17:58, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
The paper is simplistic by modern standards. But, at the time there were no other papers available on the topic. Hard to believe, but true. This was one of the earliest public papers on the subject. Buffer overflows had only just been demonstrated by groups such as 8lgm but details about how they worked was being held a close secret. Jeff Moss acknowledged at BlackHat 2011 that Aleph1's Phrack paper (smashing the stack for fun and profit) was written after he (Elias aka Aleph1) had requested and received an early copy of the Mudge paper. So Mudge's paper qualifies as pioneering. x86 instructions being referred to as "commands" is non-standard, but acceptable when referencing opcodes and operands. Dr. T.C. Pip (talk) 20:09, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
I'll add one thing: If you look at the number of buffer overflows in the wild, you'll see a huge spike after the publication of Aleph1's paper, which never went away. Before that paper, buffer overflows were rare; afterwards, common. So, yes, historically speaking, the paper was 100% pioneering. It's a tribute to its success that it's now considered common knowledge Int80 (talk) 02:57, 6 February 2013 (UTC)"
10 April 2017 03:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"For different perspectives on hacking, CNN Interactive posed a series of questions via e-mail to two experts in the field, one a computer security expert for IBM, the other, editor of 2600, the Hackers' Quarterly.
'Hackers are necessary' vs. 'Hacking is a felony'
//Okey, the IBM guy clearly just trolling for fun a bit
¤Emmanuel Goldstein is the editor-in-chief of 2600: The Hacker Quarterly and hosts a weekly radio program in New York called "Off the Hook."
¤ Dr. Charles C. Palmer is the manager of Network Security and Cryptography and head of the Global Security Analysis Lab, which includes IBM's ethical hacking unit.
DR,
1. How do you define hacking?
Hacking is unauthorized use of computer and network resources. (The term "hacker" originally meant a very gifted programmer. In recent years though, with easier access to multiple systems, it now has negative implications.)
2. Are there appropriate forms of hacking?
Hacking is a felony in the United States and most other countries. .."
Dr. Charles C. Tom Palmer :
http://web.archive.org/web/20051030042941/http://www.cnn.com/TECH/specials/hackers/qandas/palmer.html
Emmanuel Goldstein :
http://web.archive.org/web/20051215193619/http://www.cnn.com/TECH/specials/hackers/qandas/goldstein.html
'Hackers are necessary' vs. 'Hacking is a felony'
//Okey, the IBM guy clearly just trolling for fun a bit
¤Emmanuel Goldstein is the editor-in-chief of 2600: The Hacker Quarterly and hosts a weekly radio program in New York called "Off the Hook."
¤ Dr. Charles C. Palmer is the manager of Network Security and Cryptography and head of the Global Security Analysis Lab, which includes IBM's ethical hacking unit.
DR,
1. How do you define hacking?
Hacking is unauthorized use of computer and network resources. (The term "hacker" originally meant a very gifted programmer. In recent years though, with easier access to multiple systems, it now has negative implications.)
2. Are there appropriate forms of hacking?
Hacking is a felony in the United States and most other countries. .."
Dr. Charles C. Tom Palmer :
http://web.archive.org/web/20051030042941/http://www.cnn.com/TECH/specials/hackers/qandas/palmer.html
Emmanuel Goldstein :
http://web.archive.org/web/20051215193619/http://www.cnn.com/TECH/specials/hackers/qandas/goldstein.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20051030042941/http://www.cnn.com/TECH/specials/hackers/qandas/palmer.html
10 April 2017 03:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// retro news, more:
// Peter U look so normal, what happened
On Bill Clinton initiative, well, told, "The White House released a list of participants that included an @Stake representative named Peiter Zatko.
Mudge, in a business suit with his long brown hair hanging down on his chest, sat quietly with his fingers interlocked atop his blue briefing books. He is also a member of the celebrated hacker group L0pht Heavy Industries, based in Massachusetts.
Another participant, Whitfield Diffie of Sun Microsystems, set up his laptop on the conference table, an agenda on the screen. !
-
One challenge for vulnerable companies is how to share warnings on attacks without causing undue panic or releasing corporate secrets.
Managers of a recently formed private security network for banks said computer experts at some of the nation's largest financial institutions received detailed warnings of impending threats days before last week's attacks began on major sites.
-
banking officials never passed those warnings to the FBI or other law enforcement agencies, because they weren't allowed to do so under rules of the unusual security arrangement, formed with the government's encouragement.
To encourage open participation by banks and other financial firms, the Treasury Department decided that information disclosed within such a network would not be turned over to federal regulators or law enforcement agencies. It worked well for the banks that were forewarned about the attacks last week but the system also ensured the same warnings were not widely distributed.
The banking network issued the first alert in the latest attacks on February 4, "when we started seeing certain machines being compromised," said William Marlow of Global Integrity Corp., which runs the network. Yahoo! was attacked four days later.
America Online is awaiting approval of a merger with Time-Warner, the parent company of CNN.
-
---
For old numbers:
"Lockhart said beforehand that the participants mainly would review Clinton's $2 billion proposal for protecting the nation's computer infrastructure from sabotage; about $91 million of that would go toward addressing cyberterrorism. !
http://web.archive.org/web/20070311072244/http://archives.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/02/15/hacker.security/
// Peter U look so normal, what happened
On Bill Clinton initiative, well, told, "The White House released a list of participants that included an @Stake representative named Peiter Zatko.
Mudge, in a business suit with his long brown hair hanging down on his chest, sat quietly with his fingers interlocked atop his blue briefing books. He is also a member of the celebrated hacker group L0pht Heavy Industries, based in Massachusetts.
Another participant, Whitfield Diffie of Sun Microsystems, set up his laptop on the conference table, an agenda on the screen. !
-
One challenge for vulnerable companies is how to share warnings on attacks without causing undue panic or releasing corporate secrets.
Managers of a recently formed private security network for banks said computer experts at some of the nation's largest financial institutions received detailed warnings of impending threats days before last week's attacks began on major sites.
-
banking officials never passed those warnings to the FBI or other law enforcement agencies, because they weren't allowed to do so under rules of the unusual security arrangement, formed with the government's encouragement.
To encourage open participation by banks and other financial firms, the Treasury Department decided that information disclosed within such a network would not be turned over to federal regulators or law enforcement agencies. It worked well for the banks that were forewarned about the attacks last week but the system also ensured the same warnings were not widely distributed.
The banking network issued the first alert in the latest attacks on February 4, "when we started seeing certain machines being compromised," said William Marlow of Global Integrity Corp., which runs the network. Yahoo! was attacked four days later.
America Online is awaiting approval of a merger with Time-Warner, the parent company of CNN.
-
---
For old numbers:
"Lockhart said beforehand that the participants mainly would review Clinton's $2 billion proposal for protecting the nation's computer infrastructure from sabotage; about $91 million of that would go toward addressing cyberterrorism. !
http://web.archive.org/web/20070311072244/http://archives.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/02/15/hacker.security/
http://web.archive.org/web/20070311072244/http://archives.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/02/15/hacker.security/
10 April 2017 03:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// more retro, is warm like farm old cooked bread memory:
"Aside from "They Just Don't Get It," there are few points of universal assent among hackers. This is an anarchic, argumentative group, the atmosphere polite but contentious. The first of many arguments, and the first of many to remain unresolved, is over the fundamental question of what a hacker is.
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//yea, blue hats,arthst!
"The word 'hacker' has a bunch of different meanings," one participant says. A bunch of different meanings are then offered.
"Most hackers in the scene today are ... White Hats," one says. "They don't break into systems."
"That's bull----," counters JLee. "Hacking is hacking. Hacking means breaking into systems."
Whatever a hacker is, the consensus is that a "hacker ethic" exists. Hackers are driven by curiosity, exploring computers the way kids climb over fences. "Hacking, at its basic level, is the pursuit of knowledge," Dos Spider says. "How does it work?"
In the broadest sense, "hacking" means digging for information in ways the holders of information never intended -- JLee mentions Abbie Hoffman's "Yippies" of the 1960s as an influence. The hacker is an ordinary person who, for once, has an advantage over the system -- "It's someone watching the watchers, basically," says Empress.
But hacking, they say, is not stealing; there's a general scorn for computer criminals who abuse the knowledge developed by "real" hackers. The people who break into machines to steal are often labeled "Black Hats" -- though, again, there's no consensus on the definition.
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Throughout the meeting, rumors surface: People spotted lurking nearby are recognized from past meetings and marked as plainclothes mall security, local police or even feds. 2600ers have become more attentive to such signs since The Incident.
The Incident, as it is called, was a 2600 meeting whose participants were hassled by security and run out of the mall, accused of trading pornography. "Some people today believe that it was a way to get pictures [of group members], or a way to get names," Low Tek says. "Other people just think it was a misunderstanding."
There's a strong sense of hacker history here, a belief that the best days of hacking have come and gone. "The '80s to early '90s were definitely the Golden Age," Low Tek says. "It was before everybody started locking down ... before security started getting smart."
"Any one of us here would give a ... pint of blood to live in the early '80s with the knowledge that we have now," Low Tek says.
//yea be crful with this blood donation th0
// The Incident :D
Favorite hacker movies among hackers? "Sneakers" is a hands-down choice, followed by "WarGames" as a time capsule of the Golden Age. The recent film "Hackers" is blasted in every respect except the casting of Angelina Jolie. Which brings up another observation -- the hackers at this meeting were nearly all male.
"Being a woman in this type of thing, you get recognized all the time," says Empress, the only woman at the meeting. "I've been coming to these meetings for a long time ... since '95."
Had there not been a reporter present, the 2600ers say, the meeting would have been a primarily social event. "Some of these guys here, I'll hang out at a club, go to a rave with, do the occasional drug..." Low Tek says.
"We didn't come here as part of some big scheme to overthrow the government like everyone thinks," Lithium says.
"That's what my Mom thought."
// yea, moms happen to be abservent and more paranoid then the ones who should
http://web.archive.org/web/20050911113148/http://www.cnn.com/TECH/specials/hackers/culture/
"Aside from "They Just Don't Get It," there are few points of universal assent among hackers. This is an anarchic, argumentative group, the atmosphere polite but contentious. The first of many arguments, and the first of many to remain unresolved, is over the fundamental question of what a hacker is.
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//yea, blue hats,arthst!
"The word 'hacker' has a bunch of different meanings," one participant says. A bunch of different meanings are then offered.
"Most hackers in the scene today are ... White Hats," one says. "They don't break into systems."
"That's bull----," counters JLee. "Hacking is hacking. Hacking means breaking into systems."
Whatever a hacker is, the consensus is that a "hacker ethic" exists. Hackers are driven by curiosity, exploring computers the way kids climb over fences. "Hacking, at its basic level, is the pursuit of knowledge," Dos Spider says. "How does it work?"
In the broadest sense, "hacking" means digging for information in ways the holders of information never intended -- JLee mentions Abbie Hoffman's "Yippies" of the 1960s as an influence. The hacker is an ordinary person who, for once, has an advantage over the system -- "It's someone watching the watchers, basically," says Empress.
But hacking, they say, is not stealing; there's a general scorn for computer criminals who abuse the knowledge developed by "real" hackers. The people who break into machines to steal are often labeled "Black Hats" -- though, again, there's no consensus on the definition.
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Throughout the meeting, rumors surface: People spotted lurking nearby are recognized from past meetings and marked as plainclothes mall security, local police or even feds. 2600ers have become more attentive to such signs since The Incident.
The Incident, as it is called, was a 2600 meeting whose participants were hassled by security and run out of the mall, accused of trading pornography. "Some people today believe that it was a way to get pictures [of group members], or a way to get names," Low Tek says. "Other people just think it was a misunderstanding."
There's a strong sense of hacker history here, a belief that the best days of hacking have come and gone. "The '80s to early '90s were definitely the Golden Age," Low Tek says. "It was before everybody started locking down ... before security started getting smart."
"Any one of us here would give a ... pint of blood to live in the early '80s with the knowledge that we have now," Low Tek says.
//yea be crful with this blood donation th0
// The Incident :D
Favorite hacker movies among hackers? "Sneakers" is a hands-down choice, followed by "WarGames" as a time capsule of the Golden Age. The recent film "Hackers" is blasted in every respect except the casting of Angelina Jolie. Which brings up another observation -- the hackers at this meeting were nearly all male.
"Being a woman in this type of thing, you get recognized all the time," says Empress, the only woman at the meeting. "I've been coming to these meetings for a long time ... since '95."
Had there not been a reporter present, the 2600ers say, the meeting would have been a primarily social event. "Some of these guys here, I'll hang out at a club, go to a rave with, do the occasional drug..." Low Tek says.
"We didn't come here as part of some big scheme to overthrow the government like everyone thinks," Lithium says.
"That's what my Mom thought."
// yea, moms happen to be abservent and more paranoid then the ones who should
http://web.archive.org/web/20050911113148/http://www.cnn.com/TECH/specials/hackers/culture/
http://web.archive.org/web/20050911113148/http://www.cnn.com/TECH/specials/hackers/culture/
10 April 2017 03:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mudge was one of the first people from the hacker community to reach out and build relationships with government and industry. In demand as a public speaker, he spoke at hacker conferences such as DEF CON and academic conferences such as USENIX.[ Mudge has also been a member of Cult of the Dead Cow since 1996 (N0t, "was"?; )
"At DARPA he created the Cyber Analytical Framework the agency used to evaluate U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) investments in offensive and defensive cyber security. During his tenure he ran at least three U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) programs known as Military Networking Protocol (MNP), Cyber-Insider Threat (CINDER), and Cyber Fast Track (CFT).
Military Networking Protocol (MNP) - Provided network prioritization with full user-level attribution for military computer networks.
Cyber Fast Track (CFT) - Provided resources and funding to security research, including programs run by hackers, hackerspaces, and makerlabs. The program provided an alternative to traditional government contracting vehicles that was accessible to individuals and small companies previously unable to work within the cumbersome and complicated DARPA process. The novel contracting effort had an averaging time of 7 days from receipt of proposal to funding being provided to the proposing research organization. The program was initially announced at Shmoocon during his 2011 keynote.
Cyber-Insider Threat (CINDER) - Focused on identifying cyber espionage conducted by virtual insider threats such as future variants of Stuxnet or Duqu. CINDER is often mistakenly associated with Wikileaks in the media. ] This is possibly due to the confusion between DARPA programs focused on identifying human insider threat such as ADAMS and the identification of software espionage posed by malware in the CINDER program. This issue was clarified by Mudge in his Defcon 2011 keynote at 46 minutes and 11 seconds into the talk.
"At DARPA he created the Cyber Analytical Framework the agency used to evaluate U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) investments in offensive and defensive cyber security. During his tenure he ran at least three U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) programs known as Military Networking Protocol (MNP), Cyber-Insider Threat (CINDER), and Cyber Fast Track (CFT).
Military Networking Protocol (MNP) - Provided network prioritization with full user-level attribution for military computer networks.
Cyber Fast Track (CFT) - Provided resources and funding to security research, including programs run by hackers, hackerspaces, and makerlabs. The program provided an alternative to traditional government contracting vehicles that was accessible to individuals and small companies previously unable to work within the cumbersome and complicated DARPA process. The novel contracting effort had an averaging time of 7 days from receipt of proposal to funding being provided to the proposing research organization. The program was initially announced at Shmoocon during his 2011 keynote.
Cyber-Insider Threat (CINDER) - Focused on identifying cyber espionage conducted by virtual insider threats such as future variants of Stuxnet or Duqu. CINDER is often mistakenly associated with Wikileaks in the media. ] This is possibly due to the confusion between DARPA programs focused on identifying human insider threat such as ADAMS and the identification of software espionage posed by malware in the CINDER program. This issue was clarified by Mudge in his Defcon 2011 keynote at 46 minutes and 11 seconds into the talk.
10 April 2017 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mudge
He was one of the seven L0pht members (sound like talking about deseaced) who testified before a Senate committee in 1998 about the serious vulnerabilities of the Internet at that time. The L0pht became the computer security consultancy @stake
in 1999, and Mudge became the vice president of research and development and later chief scientist.
In 2000, after the first crippling Internet distributed denial-of-service attacks, he was invited to meet with President Bill Clinton at a security summit alongside cabinet members and industry executives.
In 2004 he became a division scientist at government contractor BBN Technologies,
(military contractor, primarily for DARPA, and also known for its 1978 acoustical analysis for the House Select Committee on the assassination of John F. Kennedy)
where he originally worked in the 1990s,
and also joined the technical advisory board of NFR Security.
In 2010, it was announced that he would be project manager of a DARPA project focused on directing research in cyber security. In 2013 he announced that he would leave DARPA for a position at Google ATAP.
In 2015 Zatko announced on Twitter he would join a project called #CyberUL,
a testing organisation for computer security inspired by Underwriters Laboratories,
mandated by the White House.
On 11 August 2007 he married Sarah Lieberman, a co-worker at BBN
He was one of the seven L0pht members (sound like talking about deseaced) who testified before a Senate committee in 1998 about the serious vulnerabilities of the Internet at that time. The L0pht became the computer security consultancy @stake
in 1999, and Mudge became the vice president of research and development and later chief scientist.
In 2000, after the first crippling Internet distributed denial-of-service attacks, he was invited to meet with President Bill Clinton at a security summit alongside cabinet members and industry executives.
In 2004 he became a division scientist at government contractor BBN Technologies,
(military contractor, primarily for DARPA, and also known for its 1978 acoustical analysis for the House Select Committee on the assassination of John F. Kennedy)
where he originally worked in the 1990s,
and also joined the technical advisory board of NFR Security.
In 2010, it was announced that he would be project manager of a DARPA project focused on directing research in cyber security. In 2013 he announced that he would leave DARPA for a position at Google ATAP.
In 2015 Zatko announced on Twitter he would join a project called #CyberUL,
a testing organisation for computer security inspired by Underwriters Laboratories,
mandated by the White House.
On 11 August 2007 he married Sarah Lieberman, a co-worker at BBN
10 April 2017 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The L0pht was one of the first Viable hackerspaces in the US.
Public Founders: Count Zero, White Knight, Brian Oblivion, Golgo 13
¤Some members:
L0pht membership varied but included at various times:
Mudge - later became a program manager at DARPA and worked for Google
Brian Oblivion
Count Zero
Dildog
Kingpin
Silicosis
Space Rogue
Stefan
Thomas Icom (Ticom)
Weld Pond
tan (John Tan)
Public Founders: Count Zero, White Knight, Brian Oblivion, Golgo 13
¤Some members:
L0pht membership varied but included at various times:
Mudge - later became a program manager at DARPA and worked for Google
Brian Oblivion
Count Zero
Dildog
Kingpin
Silicosis
Space Rogue
Stefan
Thomas Icom (Ticom)
Weld Pond
tan (John Tan)
10 April 2017 02:50
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Deosaran's comment.
i have not seen Anyone else dare to do anything like that:
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
10 April 2017 02:28
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Deosaran's comment.
CNN is probably as real one can get in global mass news
10 April 2017 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja ühest söest piisab, et Tuld saada, kui seda õigesti käsitleda, iniemstega samamoodi, aint tulesi vaja suts kordineeritult võrgustatult ja järjepidevalt teha koos süte hoidmise, säilitamise ja arusaamisega.
kidas asjad on kustunud ja kuidas asjad on
Ei ole mõtet joonalauaga mõõta, et soe ühest ahjust teise ei jõua, ilma tikuta ei saa ja mida kõike veel, kui tuleb kätte võtta, tangide vahele kui muidu ei saa ja teha nii, et saaks (õigluse, arusaama) Tuld, kui vaja
kidas asjad on kustunud ja kuidas asjad on
Ei ole mõtet joonalauaga mõõta, et soe ühest ahjust teise ei jõua, ilma tikuta ei saa ja mida kõike veel, kui tuleb kätte võtta, tangide vahele kui muidu ei saa ja teha nii, et saaks (õigluse, arusaama) Tuld, kui vaja
10 April 2017 02:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jup, ta saunas veel,
10 April 2017 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see tuletas mulle meelde, et ühe kodutu vana haige kassi jaoks täna sauna kütsin soojaks ja pidin talle piima viima, kell juba kaks öösel, lähen vaatan kas ta veel nurrub lavaall (oli koos meiega saunas täna millegi pärast)
10 April 2017 01:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui paned kellegi olukorda, kus tal ei ole KUNAGI võimalik elusana pääseda, siis on see Mõrv, Ja mõrvatu on surnud.
Ja need sadistid kes neid teste tegid, tõestasid selle testiga tegelikult, et klassitäis inimesi ja teadlasi, oli Surnud , kes mööda hambaid ei virutanud esimesele kes selle kastiga ruumi tuli
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Vaimselt Surnud, (ehk siis tühi kest, keda ei saa inimeseks nimetada enam, kui ta just uuesti inimeseks ei hakka)
Ja need sadistid kes neid teste tegid, tõestasid selle testiga tegelikult, et klassitäis inimesi ja teadlasi, oli Surnud , kes mööda hambaid ei virutanud esimesele kes selle kastiga ruumi tuli
--
Vaimselt Surnud, (ehk siis tühi kest, keda ei saa inimeseks nimetada enam, kui ta just uuesti inimeseks ei hakka)
10 April 2017 01:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov tulem on inimesepeas, et tal liberaalne nmõtlemine koos oma haigete kasutute teeoriatega,
kas on Surnud, sest elusana pole ükski kass tagasi tulnud .
Tuleb asju Reaalselt vaadata mida vaadata saab, mitte mingi usufilosoofide abstraxete juradega endal aju kinnitused maaga rikkuda
kas on Surnud, sest elusana pole ükski kass tagasi tulnud .
Tuleb asju Reaalselt vaadata mida vaadata saab, mitte mingi usufilosoofide abstraxete juradega endal aju kinnitused maaga rikkuda
10 April 2017 01:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tead ühte kassi kes peale seda testi elusalt kätte sadud on v?
// kui leiad ühe selle uuringu, kus kass on peale sellesse surmamõistvasse testi pantud veel elus ja sööb kitekätti päev hiljem, siis ole hea anna mulle ka teada, ma siis mõtlen veel
// kui leiad ühe selle uuringu, kus kass on peale sellesse surmamõistvasse testi pantud veel elus ja sööb kitekätti päev hiljem, siis ole hea anna mulle ka teada, ma siis mõtlen veel
10 April 2017 01:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Mina tean
10 April 2017 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Erinevalt teisest, keda enamuses instantiivselt otsekoheselt või varjatumalt pikemalt uurinud olen ja läbi selle korduvalt tõestanud, et väga harvad juhused ainult tegelevad sellise asjaga nagu Olemisolemise ja Mõtete olemuse päritolu osas aastaringse mõtlemisega ning nendest omakorda enamus suht ebaregulaarselt ning ilma reaalse usuta, et on võimalik selles osas selgitatavale nõusolekule kõigiga tulla,
erinevalt neist teistest, on minul väga palju suurem tõenäosus paljude tõenäosus teooriate ja matemaatikalise ning mitme usulise ja talupoja tarkuse arusaama kohaselt arusaada ning mõista mõistust ja olemisolemist
erinevalt neist teistest, on minul väga palju suurem tõenäosus paljude tõenäosus teooriate ja matemaatikalise ning mitme usulise ja talupoja tarkuse arusaama kohaselt arusaada ning mõista mõistust ja olemisolemist
10 April 2017 01:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov väga rumal on arvata, siis, kui ei tegele Mõtlemisega
10 April 2017 01:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ahjaa, hea, et tähelepanu pöörasid,
sinna lõppu pidin panema:
"Woner who is"
//sedasi vaadates jah, tundub, et..
(sest on ju osalt irooniline, et kes seda mõtleb ja ütleb, kuid nad vähemasti suuremeelselt reaalselt mõtlevad osades ringkondades neid asju, reaalselt kultuurilise lahenduse vaateviklist, mure vaatevinklist, mitte kuivade numbritega "kuidas iganes rahu saaks, teeme mida vaja, peaasi, et saaks sedasi, et me häiritud ei ole kui see meile ebasobiv on")
sinna lõppu pidin panema:
"Woner who is"
//sedasi vaadates jah, tundub, et..
(sest on ju osalt irooniline, et kes seda mõtleb ja ütleb, kuid nad vähemasti suuremeelselt reaalselt mõtlevad osades ringkondades neid asju, reaalselt kultuurilise lahenduse vaateviklist, mure vaatevinklist, mitte kuivade numbritega "kuidas iganes rahu saaks, teeme mida vaja, peaasi, et saaks sedasi, et me häiritud ei ole kui see meile ebasobiv on")
10 April 2017 01:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Tsiteerin pederaste ka kui vaja,
Tsiteerimine pole nõustumine minu maailmas,
Sesosas, et ma pole nagu lääne haritlane kes Oma mõtteid Greeka tarkade lausetega väljendavad
(sest iseenda mõtetega ei julge lagedale tulla kui usutakse, et kõik tark on juba ära mõeldud ja kirja pandud)
Tsiteerimine pole nõustumine minu maailmas,
Sesosas, et ma pole nagu lääne haritlane kes Oma mõtteid Greeka tarkade lausetega väljendavad
(sest iseenda mõtetega ei julge lagedale tulla kui usutakse, et kõik tark on juba ära mõeldud ja kirja pandud)
10 April 2017 01:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Dilemma missugune:
"Autokraatia või demokraatia islamis
Lääs on ilmselgelt vaimselt kimpus islamiriikidega. Lääne liberaalsete väärtuste vaatepunktist ei tohiks islami maailma autokraatiaid toetada. Samas on demokraatia toetamine kaasa toonud läänevaenuliku poliitilise islami võimuletuleku...."
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1878242959085539&set=a.1831596700416832.1073741838.100006995595985&type=3&theater
"Autokraatia või demokraatia islamis
Lääs on ilmselgelt vaimselt kimpus islamiriikidega. Lääne liberaalsete väärtuste vaatepunktist ei tohiks islami maailma autokraatiaid toetada. Samas on demokraatia toetamine kaasa toonud läänevaenuliku poliitilise islami võimuletuleku...."
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1878242959085539&set=a.1831596700416832.1073741838.100006995595985&type=3&theater
10 April 2017 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to Naffy Sah's comment.
Great thanks to Arthur also and video composer
10 April 2017 00:11
Margus Meigo replied to Naffy Sah's comment.
Aaron Z Hastings legend be-on doubt
10 April 2017 00:08
Margus Meigo replied to Laura Cats's comment.
this isde of CIA who He know, they work in same, this is why he knows pentagram power..
10 April 2017 00:00
Margus Meigo replied to Laura Cats's comment.
no is not, he still wears a tie
9 April 2017 23:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Unraveling Of the Minds
i see it so, but still struggle with words to find for explaining , 4 elements perhaps we are9 April 2017 14:39
Margus Meigo commented on Jane Price's post.
Group: Unraveling Of the Minds
yes but fire is not part of OUR creation, i feel so strongly about it, that this is extreme important error when we look our self, .. life happens besides, below 40 usually to take it literally... and we can not put so few dimensions producing spirit tech as fire to same level as earth land and biology ... we yes, use fire, it is one of the tools, and yes, spirit also can be, but is not part of us in natural way even if we able to do it9 April 2017 14:38
Margus Meigo replied to Kym Haythorpe's comment.
Group: Unraveling Of the Minds
but the last part of my sentence, i have no easy time to explain,9 April 2017 14:32
Margus Meigo replied to Kym Haythorpe's comment.
Group: Unraveling Of the Minds
Or there is Left eye that needs to go, so there can be only one true eye, not the extra, invention.. that we assume is part of us.. but it must go.. but as long it has self awareness, it want to protect it self.. and not go.. and start to generate strategies to slow it down..
We must assume there have been created half electronica extra beings that we started to assume are part of us., that they are us..
if there is possibility like this, then yes..,
but yes, true duality is basis of wisdom,9 April 2017 14:31
Margus Meigo replied to Kym Haythorpe's comment.
Group: Unraveling Of the Minds
perhaps there is only one eye.. and problem is You want to see Yourself as left..9 April 2017 14:27
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Forte's post.
9 April 2017 02:09
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's photo.
Portree, filimiajaloo väärt pilt!
9 April 2017 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
Väga timm pilt, see juba on päris elu!
9 April 2017 01:28
Margus Meigo replied to Aili Vahtla's comment.
( kuid endiselt usun, et Eestlased ei peaks lipsu kandma, kui oma rinna vabaks jätta soovime )
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9 April 2017 01:25
Margus Meigo replied to Aili Vahtla's comment.
sounds lively
9 April 2017 01:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But as someone says:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=411469875880020&set=gm.320512478351729&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=411469875880020&set=gm.320512478351729&type=3&theater
9 April 2017 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on Marcel van der Kommie's post.
Group: Communists, Anarchists, Socialists United Front.
Wonder who does besides me9 April 2017 01:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// 3000 library's and 80+ billion donations, that's something : )
"Can you imagine becoming the richest person in the world and then giving your money away? That's exactly what Andrew Carnegie did. After retiring in 1901 as the world's richest man, Andrew Carnegie wanted to become a philanthropist, a person who gives money to good causes. He believed in the "Gospel of Wealth," which meant that wealthy people were morally obligated to give their money back to others in society.
Carnegie had made some charitable donations before 1901, but after that time, giving his money away became his new occupation. In 1902 he founded the Carnegie Institution to fund scientific research and established a pension fund for teachers"
Carnegie never forgot Colonel Anderson's generosity. As a result, Carnegie supported education; he gave money to towns and cities to build more than 3,000 public libraries.
World peace was another cause Carnegie believed in. He established the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and funded the building of the Hague Palace of Peace, which houses the World Court, in the Netherlands. By 1911, Carnegie had given away a huge amount of money -- 90 percent of his fortune.
(Net worth US$309 billion ... so 90% of it was..)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Carnegie
http://library.columbia.edu/locations/rbml/units/carnegie/andrew.html
"Can you imagine becoming the richest person in the world and then giving your money away? That's exactly what Andrew Carnegie did. After retiring in 1901 as the world's richest man, Andrew Carnegie wanted to become a philanthropist, a person who gives money to good causes. He believed in the "Gospel of Wealth," which meant that wealthy people were morally obligated to give their money back to others in society.
Carnegie had made some charitable donations before 1901, but after that time, giving his money away became his new occupation. In 1902 he founded the Carnegie Institution to fund scientific research and established a pension fund for teachers"
Carnegie never forgot Colonel Anderson's generosity. As a result, Carnegie supported education; he gave money to towns and cities to build more than 3,000 public libraries.
World peace was another cause Carnegie believed in. He established the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and funded the building of the Hague Palace of Peace, which houses the World Court, in the Netherlands. By 1911, Carnegie had given away a huge amount of money -- 90 percent of his fortune.
(Net worth US$309 billion ... so 90% of it was..)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Carnegie
http://library.columbia.edu/locations/rbml/units/carnegie/andrew.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Carnegie
9 April 2017 01:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
//not much here, but jsut for future note
"Andrew Carnegie, Henry Ford, J.P. Morgan, John D. Rockefeller and Cornelius Vanderbilt are five of the greatest businessmen America has ever known. Remembered for their entrepreneurial spirit and innovative approaches to growing their respective empires, these men ushered post-Civil War America into the modern era"
http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/5-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-men-who-built-america
"Andrew Carnegie, Henry Ford, J.P. Morgan, John D. Rockefeller and Cornelius Vanderbilt are five of the greatest businessmen America has ever known. Remembered for their entrepreneurial spirit and innovative approaches to growing their respective empires, these men ushered post-Civil War America into the modern era"
http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/5-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-men-who-built-america
http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/5-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-men-who-built-america
9 April 2017 01:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Okey maybe this guy will stay longer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf-BpvfTSKQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf-BpvfTSKQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf-BpvfTSKQ
9 April 2017 00:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
something strange is going on with hi anyway as well
He looks really weird and body language is unmanly..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1H7KxPlbQw
He looks really weird and body language is unmanly..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1H7KxPlbQw
9 April 2017 00:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aaah crap there was not much and nothing really.,.
Wanted to hear this guy actually, the old schooler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUkv_jPgTeg
Wanted to hear this guy actually, the old schooler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUkv_jPgTeg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUkv_jPgTeg
9 April 2017 00:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yea done nothing for russia except the Secretary of STATE and Yourself. hmm and.. we will see what comes.
But yea talking stile is more human then many ties, it is elementary for he's position
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h5xAnHOdYg
But yea talking stile is more human then many ties, it is elementary for he's position
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h5xAnHOdYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h5xAnHOdYg
9 April 2017 00:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lets see how many there is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaqARGQflUE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaqARGQflUE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaqARGQflUE
9 April 2017 00:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Okey last one was just warmup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar-XQGtoB6o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar-XQGtoB6o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar-XQGtoB6o
9 April 2017 00:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
liberators take it on all streams,
one better then other, you must agree, them know how to rip a joke better then anyone else who is tangled with facts and morals.
// okey after listening it all.. have to take words back, not much really
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8BXFfZCWEA
one better then other, you must agree, them know how to rip a joke better then anyone else who is tangled with facts and morals.
// okey after listening it all.. have to take words back, not much really
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8BXFfZCWEA
9 April 2017 00:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
omg ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSx-N9ayCvU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSx-N9ayCvU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSx-N9ayCvU
9 April 2017 00:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Just to make it clear, it is a humor section, but as always, there is nothing only funny about nothing
8 April 2017 23:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Google it, it is in internet"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YWl7tDGUPA
Exta note:
Do You know what else has white red and blue colors, that's right.
FSB (Russia) and World Vision USA Flägs,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YWl7tDGUPA
Exta note:
Do You know what else has white red and blue colors, that's right.
FSB (Russia) and World Vision USA Flägs,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YWl7tDGUPA
8 April 2017 23:22
Margus Meigo replied to Dimitrij Aba Babitzin's comment.
8 April 2017 18:30
Margus Meigo replied to Dimitrij Aba Babitzin's comment.
and them : https://youtu.be/o7d2irE8CQU?t=330
https://youtu.be/o7d2irE8CQU?t=330
8 April 2017 18:29
Margus Meigo replied to Dimitrij Aba Babitzin's comment.
you say this also about them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx3AHnDDpJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx3AHnDDpJ0
8 April 2017 18:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Okey, this is final one:
Pedophilia advocacy organizations by country
International
Ipce (formerly International Pedophile and Child Emancipation, changed its name in 1998 to disassociate with the full name). Founded in the early 1990s; in 2005, it had 79 members in 20 countries.[1][2][3] The organization has websites available in English,[4] French,[5] German,[6] and Spanish.[7]
Australia
Australian Man/Boy Love Association (AMBLA).[8]
Australian Paedophile Support Group (APSG). Founded in 1980 or 1983 according to other sources. It was succeeded by the Boy Lovers and Zucchini Eaters (BLAZE), another group dismantled by police.[9]
Belgium
Dokumentatiedienst Pedofilie.[10]
Centre de recherche et d'information sur l'enfance et la sexualité (fr), 1982–1986. Founded by Philippe Charpentier. The group published the magazine L'Espoir.[11]
Fach Und Selbsthilfegruppe Paedophilie. Founded at the early 1970s.[10]
Stiekum.[10]
Studiegroep Pedofilie.[10] Defunct.
Canada
Coalition Pédophile Québécois.[8]
Fondation Nouvelle. Defunct.[1]
Denmark
Danish Pedophile Association (DPA), 1985–2004. One of the most important pedophile associations in Europe.[10][12]
France
Groupe de Recherche pour une Enfance Différente (GRED), 1979–1987. The group published the bulletin Le Petit Gredin (The Little Rogue).[10]
Germany
See also: 1970s and 1980s pedophilia debate (in German)
AG-Pädo. Founded in 1991 by the association Arbeitsgruppe des Bundesverbandes Homosexualität.[8][13]
Aktion Freis Leben (AFL).[8]
Arbeitskreis Päderastie-Pädophilie (APF). Active in the early 1980s.[10]
Arbeitsgemeinschaft Humane Sexualität (de) (AHS).
Arbeitsgemeinschaft "Schwule, Päderasten und Transsexuelle" ("working group 'gays, pederasts and transsexuals'"). Faction of the German Green Party involved in pro-pedophile activism.[14][15][16][17] See de:Pädophilie-Debatte (Bündnis 90/Die Grünen) ("Pedophilia Debate (Alliance '90/The Greens")
Deutsche Studien- und Arbeitsgemeinschaft Pädophilie (DSAP). 1979–1983.[8]
Fach und Selbsthilfegruppe Paedophilie.[8]
Indianerkommune. Active from the 1970s through the mid-1980s.[10] Self-defined as children's liberation commune, strongly identifying as pedophile, active late 1970s-late 1980s; according to some authors there are several independent local groups active in Germany today.[18]
Kanalratten. Offshoot of the Indianerkommune but for female pedophiles.[19]
Kinderfrühling.[20]
Krumme 13 (K13), 1993– aktuell bis heute und im Internet präsent.[21][22]
Pädoguppe, Rat und Tat-Zentrum.[8]
Pädophile Selbsthilfe- und Emanzipationsgruppe München (SHG).[23] Founded in 1979.[24] Starting in 2003, police began raiding its members, resulting in more than half a million items of child pornography seized and multiple arrests.[25]
Verein für sexuelle Gleichberechtigung. Founded in Munich. 1973–1988[26]
Werkgruppe Pedophilie.[27]
Italy
Gruppo P. Founded in 1989 by Francesco Vallini.[28] Despite its legitimate status, Vallini spent three years in prison for running a criminal association. Despite this, the well-established gay magazine Babilonia continues to employ Vallini, and to support his ideas, although Gruppo P as such may be no more. The group published the bulletin Corriere del pedofili.[29]
Netherlands
Logo of Martijn.
Enclave Kring. Founded in the 1950s by the psychologist Frits Bernard.[30]
Jon. Founded in 1979 by the Dutch Society for Sexual Reform.[8]
Party for Neighbourly Love, Freedom, and Diversity, 2006–2008. Dutch political party that advocated lowering the legal age of consent to 12 years old and legalizing child pornography.[31]
Vereniging Martijn. Founded in 1982. The most important pedophile association in Europe. On 27 June 2012 a Dutch court ruled that the group was illegal and ordered it to disband immediately.[32] However this decision was overturned by a higher court in April 2013. The judge motivated his or her decision by stating that the club did not commit crimes and had the right of freedom of association.[33] Nevertheless, on 27 June 2012 a Dutch court ruled that the group was illegal and ordered it to disband immediately. This decision was overturned by a higher court, which itself was overturned by The Dutch Supreme Court on 18 April 2014, resulting in a final ban of the association. The association filed an appeal at the European Court of Human Rights but it was rejected.
The group published the bulletin OK Magazine.[34]
Norway
Norwegian Pedophile Group.[27]
Amnesty for Child Sexuality.[27]
Switzerland
Schweizerische Arbeitsgemeinschaft Pädophile.[10]
United Kingdom
Paedophile Action for Liberation, 1974, merged with PIE in 1975.[10]
Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), 1974–1984. It was affiliated to the National Council for Civil Liberties, now known as Liberty, between 1978 and 1983, the year in which it was expelled.[35] It published the magazines Magpie, Understanding Paedophilia and Childhood Rights.[10][36]
United States
See also: FBI pedophile symbols (hosted by WikiLeaks)
Childhood Sensuality Circle (CSC). Founded in 1971 in San Diego (California) by a student of Wilhelm Reich.[10]
North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). 1978–present. Considered to be largely defunct.[37][38]
Pedophile Information Society.[39]
Project Truth. One of the organizations which was expulsed from ILGA in 1994 as a pedophile organization.[3] Defunct.
René Guyon Society. Possibly fictitious. Its slogan was "sex before eight, or it's too late".[27]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pedophile_and_pederast_advocacy_organizations
Pedophilia advocacy organizations by country
International
Ipce (formerly International Pedophile and Child Emancipation, changed its name in 1998 to disassociate with the full name). Founded in the early 1990s; in 2005, it had 79 members in 20 countries.[1][2][3] The organization has websites available in English,[4] French,[5] German,[6] and Spanish.[7]
Australia
Australian Man/Boy Love Association (AMBLA).[8]
Australian Paedophile Support Group (APSG). Founded in 1980 or 1983 according to other sources. It was succeeded by the Boy Lovers and Zucchini Eaters (BLAZE), another group dismantled by police.[9]
Belgium
Dokumentatiedienst Pedofilie.[10]
Centre de recherche et d'information sur l'enfance et la sexualité (fr), 1982–1986. Founded by Philippe Charpentier. The group published the magazine L'Espoir.[11]
Fach Und Selbsthilfegruppe Paedophilie. Founded at the early 1970s.[10]
Stiekum.[10]
Studiegroep Pedofilie.[10] Defunct.
Canada
Coalition Pédophile Québécois.[8]
Fondation Nouvelle. Defunct.[1]
Denmark
Danish Pedophile Association (DPA), 1985–2004. One of the most important pedophile associations in Europe.[10][12]
France
Groupe de Recherche pour une Enfance Différente (GRED), 1979–1987. The group published the bulletin Le Petit Gredin (The Little Rogue).[10]
Germany
See also: 1970s and 1980s pedophilia debate (in German)
AG-Pädo. Founded in 1991 by the association Arbeitsgruppe des Bundesverbandes Homosexualität.[8][13]
Aktion Freis Leben (AFL).[8]
Arbeitskreis Päderastie-Pädophilie (APF). Active in the early 1980s.[10]
Arbeitsgemeinschaft Humane Sexualität (de) (AHS).
Arbeitsgemeinschaft "Schwule, Päderasten und Transsexuelle" ("working group 'gays, pederasts and transsexuals'"). Faction of the German Green Party involved in pro-pedophile activism.[14][15][16][17] See de:Pädophilie-Debatte (Bündnis 90/Die Grünen) ("Pedophilia Debate (Alliance '90/The Greens")
Deutsche Studien- und Arbeitsgemeinschaft Pädophilie (DSAP). 1979–1983.[8]
Fach und Selbsthilfegruppe Paedophilie.[8]
Indianerkommune. Active from the 1970s through the mid-1980s.[10] Self-defined as children's liberation commune, strongly identifying as pedophile, active late 1970s-late 1980s; according to some authors there are several independent local groups active in Germany today.[18]
Kanalratten. Offshoot of the Indianerkommune but for female pedophiles.[19]
Kinderfrühling.[20]
Krumme 13 (K13), 1993– aktuell bis heute und im Internet präsent.[21][22]
Pädoguppe, Rat und Tat-Zentrum.[8]
Pädophile Selbsthilfe- und Emanzipationsgruppe München (SHG).[23] Founded in 1979.[24] Starting in 2003, police began raiding its members, resulting in more than half a million items of child pornography seized and multiple arrests.[25]
Verein für sexuelle Gleichberechtigung. Founded in Munich. 1973–1988[26]
Werkgruppe Pedophilie.[27]
Italy
Gruppo P. Founded in 1989 by Francesco Vallini.[28] Despite its legitimate status, Vallini spent three years in prison for running a criminal association. Despite this, the well-established gay magazine Babilonia continues to employ Vallini, and to support his ideas, although Gruppo P as such may be no more. The group published the bulletin Corriere del pedofili.[29]
Netherlands
Logo of Martijn.
Enclave Kring. Founded in the 1950s by the psychologist Frits Bernard.[30]
Jon. Founded in 1979 by the Dutch Society for Sexual Reform.[8]
Party for Neighbourly Love, Freedom, and Diversity, 2006–2008. Dutch political party that advocated lowering the legal age of consent to 12 years old and legalizing child pornography.[31]
Vereniging Martijn. Founded in 1982. The most important pedophile association in Europe. On 27 June 2012 a Dutch court ruled that the group was illegal and ordered it to disband immediately.[32] However this decision was overturned by a higher court in April 2013. The judge motivated his or her decision by stating that the club did not commit crimes and had the right of freedom of association.[33] Nevertheless, on 27 June 2012 a Dutch court ruled that the group was illegal and ordered it to disband immediately. This decision was overturned by a higher court, which itself was overturned by The Dutch Supreme Court on 18 April 2014, resulting in a final ban of the association. The association filed an appeal at the European Court of Human Rights but it was rejected.
The group published the bulletin OK Magazine.[34]
Norway
Norwegian Pedophile Group.[27]
Amnesty for Child Sexuality.[27]
Switzerland
Schweizerische Arbeitsgemeinschaft Pädophile.[10]
United Kingdom
Paedophile Action for Liberation, 1974, merged with PIE in 1975.[10]
Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), 1974–1984. It was affiliated to the National Council for Civil Liberties, now known as Liberty, between 1978 and 1983, the year in which it was expelled.[35] It published the magazines Magpie, Understanding Paedophilia and Childhood Rights.[10][36]
United States
See also: FBI pedophile symbols (hosted by WikiLeaks)
Childhood Sensuality Circle (CSC). Founded in 1971 in San Diego (California) by a student of Wilhelm Reich.[10]
North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). 1978–present. Considered to be largely defunct.[37][38]
Pedophile Information Society.[39]
Project Truth. One of the organizations which was expulsed from ILGA in 1994 as a pedophile organization.[3] Defunct.
René Guyon Society. Possibly fictitious. Its slogan was "sex before eight, or it's too late".[27]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pedophile_and_pederast_advocacy_organizations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pedophile_and_pederast_advocacy_organizations
8 April 2017 08:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// i think we can see a bit of pattern here, :
"The Pedophile Group, Pedophile Group Association or Danish Pedophile Association was a Danish organisation which was disbanded on March 21, 2004. A website is still running, operated by a group of active members of the former association. It was founded in 1985. On July 23, 1996, the group had eighty registered members and participated in an International Congress in Denmark. It was also connected with the pedophile advocacy organisation Ipce (formerly the International Pedophile and Child Emancipation).[1] A 2004 newspaper article identified Dan Markussen as the organization's spokesman."
Formation 1985
Extinction 2004
Headquarters Denmark
Region served
UK
Official language
Danish
--
"In 2000, the group asked its members to provide misleading information to authorities to help Eric Franklin Rosser evade prosecution. Rosser was a former member of John Mellencamp's band who had been charged with producing and distributing child pornography.[5] He was convicted in 2001, however, and was added to the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation's most wanted list"
// website is still up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophile_Group
"The Pedophile Group, Pedophile Group Association or Danish Pedophile Association was a Danish organisation which was disbanded on March 21, 2004. A website is still running, operated by a group of active members of the former association. It was founded in 1985. On July 23, 1996, the group had eighty registered members and participated in an International Congress in Denmark. It was also connected with the pedophile advocacy organisation Ipce (formerly the International Pedophile and Child Emancipation).[1] A 2004 newspaper article identified Dan Markussen as the organization's spokesman."
Formation 1985
Extinction 2004
Headquarters Denmark
Region served
UK
Official language
Danish
--
"In 2000, the group asked its members to provide misleading information to authorities to help Eric Franklin Rosser evade prosecution. Rosser was a former member of John Mellencamp's band who had been charged with producing and distributing child pornography.[5] He was convicted in 2001, however, and was added to the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation's most wanted list"
// website is still up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophile_Group
8 April 2017 08:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Vereniging MARTIJN ("Martijn Union") was a Dutch association that advocated the societal acceptance of pedophilia and legalization of sexual relationships between adults and children"
Formation 1982 (dissolved by Supreme Court in 2014)
Purpose To advocate the acceptance of pedophilia and legalization of sexual relationships between adults and children
Region served
Netherlands
by " Ad van den Berg"
"From 1986 till 2006 the group published OK Magazine, available only through the mail and not in retail stores, featuring essays, letters, interviews and photographs of scantily clad or naked children, mostly boys"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vereniging_Martijn
And see how hard is to ban these sicos:
" On 18 June 2011, the Ministry of Security and Justice announced that the association's activities were not illegal. Crimes committed by its members could not be attributed to the association could not be prosecuted, banned or disbanded.[14]
On 27 June 2012, a Dutch court in Assen ruled that the group was illegal and ordered the group to cease activities and disband immediately. The judge stated that the group's actions and statements regarding sexual contact between adults and children were in conflict with the accepted norms and values of Dutch society. In his statement, the judge emphasised the overriding need to protect children.[15] However, in April 2013, a higher court overturned this decision, upholding the Martijn club's right to freedom of association.[16] On 18 April 2014 the Supreme Court overturned the acquittal and reinstated the trial judge's order.[17] On 3 February 2015, an appeal by the association to the European Court for Human Rights (ECHR) was rejected
Formation 1982 (dissolved by Supreme Court in 2014)
Purpose To advocate the acceptance of pedophilia and legalization of sexual relationships between adults and children
Region served
Netherlands
by " Ad van den Berg"
"From 1986 till 2006 the group published OK Magazine, available only through the mail and not in retail stores, featuring essays, letters, interviews and photographs of scantily clad or naked children, mostly boys"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vereniging_Martijn
And see how hard is to ban these sicos:
" On 18 June 2011, the Ministry of Security and Justice announced that the association's activities were not illegal. Crimes committed by its members could not be attributed to the association could not be prosecuted, banned or disbanded.[14]
On 27 June 2012, a Dutch court in Assen ruled that the group was illegal and ordered the group to cease activities and disband immediately. The judge stated that the group's actions and statements regarding sexual contact between adults and children were in conflict with the accepted norms and values of Dutch society. In his statement, the judge emphasised the overriding need to protect children.[15] However, in April 2013, a higher court overturned this decision, upholding the Martijn club's right to freedom of association.[16] On 18 April 2014 the Supreme Court overturned the acquittal and reinstated the trial judge's order.[17] On 3 February 2015, an appeal by the association to the European Court for Human Rights (ECHR) was rejected
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vereniging_Martijn
8 April 2017 08:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) was a British pro-paedophile activist group, founded in October 1974 and officially disbanded in 1984.] It was described by the BBC in 2007 as "an international organisation of people who trade obscene material."
The Paedophile Action for Liberation (also known as Paedophile Awareness and Liberation) had developed as a breakaway group from South London Gay Liberation Front.[8] PAL had its own magazine, Palaver, which published material sympathetic to paedophiles
--
okey this is messed up:
"This exposé on PAL had an effect on PIE members' willingness for activism. In the PIE Chairperson's Annual Report for 1975–1976, Hose wrote that "The only way for PIE to survive, was to seek out as much publicity for the organization as possible.... If we got bad publicity we would not run into a corner but stand and fight. We felt that the only way to get more paedophiles joining PIE... was to seek out and try to get all kinds of publications to print our organization's name and address and to make paedophilia a real public issue.""
// so must be careful to even .. talk any way about it
"In the same year, Hose also attended a conference organized by Mind, the national mental health organization,[9] where it was suggested that PIE should submit evidence to the Home Office's Criminal Law Revision Committee on the age of consent. PIE submitted a 17-page document in which it proposed that there should be no age of consent, and that the criminal law should concern itself only with sexual activities to which consent is not given, or which continue after prohibition by a civil court"
"In January 2006, the Metropolitan Police Service Paedophile Unit arrested remaining PIE members on child pornography charges. One of those arrested, David Joy, was warned by his sentencing judge that his beliefs may preclude his ever being released from jail.
Douglas Slade, who was involved in both the Paedophile Action for Liberation and PIE, was convicted at Bristol Crown Court in June 2016, and sentenced to 24 years imprisonment"
---
"In March 2014, evidence emerged that PIE had received grants totalling £70,000 from the Home Office, after a whistleblower told police he witnessed a successful three-year grant renewal application for £35,000 in 1980, implying that a similar grant had been made in 1977"
--
"Affiliation to the NCCL
Whilst PIE was affiliated with it, the National Council for Civil Liberties (now Liberty) argued that photographs of undressed children should not be considered "indecent" - and therefore illegal - unless it could be proven that the subject had suffered harm or that an inference to that effect or to the effect that harm might have been caused could reasonably be drawn from the images themselves, with Harriet Harman (later deputy leader of the Labour Party) arguing that it would “increase censorship”"
"In May 1978, according to Magpie, NCCL motions were passed supporting PIE's rights and the annual meeting went on to condemn 'attacks' against paedophiles and their supporters"
"In February 2014, Shami Chakrabarti, the director of Liberty, issued an apology for the previous links between the NCCL, as Liberty was then known, and PIE. She said: "It is a source of continuing disgust and horror that even the NCCL had to expel paedophiles from its ranks in 1983 after infiltration at some point in the seventies."
--
"In June 2015, documents emerged as a result of a BBC freedom of information request that revealed the then Conservative Home Secretary, Leon Brittan refused to support a bill designed to outlaw PIE because he considered the law on incitement of sexual activities with children to be "not so clear""
--
"On the 19 July 2015, Australia's 60 Minutes broadcast an investigation of an alleged paedophile ring, into which abused children were supplied by one of PIE founders Peter Righton, who was also a former director of education in the National Institute for Social Work and a legal aide to the Thatcher government. The alleged network was said to include senior public figures such as Greville Janner and Cyril Smith alongside a former head of MI6 Sir Peter Telford Hayman"
---
// as national security fan, hard to read that ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange
The Paedophile Action for Liberation (also known as Paedophile Awareness and Liberation) had developed as a breakaway group from South London Gay Liberation Front.[8] PAL had its own magazine, Palaver, which published material sympathetic to paedophiles
--
okey this is messed up:
"This exposé on PAL had an effect on PIE members' willingness for activism. In the PIE Chairperson's Annual Report for 1975–1976, Hose wrote that "The only way for PIE to survive, was to seek out as much publicity for the organization as possible.... If we got bad publicity we would not run into a corner but stand and fight. We felt that the only way to get more paedophiles joining PIE... was to seek out and try to get all kinds of publications to print our organization's name and address and to make paedophilia a real public issue.""
// so must be careful to even .. talk any way about it
"In the same year, Hose also attended a conference organized by Mind, the national mental health organization,[9] where it was suggested that PIE should submit evidence to the Home Office's Criminal Law Revision Committee on the age of consent. PIE submitted a 17-page document in which it proposed that there should be no age of consent, and that the criminal law should concern itself only with sexual activities to which consent is not given, or which continue after prohibition by a civil court"
"In January 2006, the Metropolitan Police Service Paedophile Unit arrested remaining PIE members on child pornography charges. One of those arrested, David Joy, was warned by his sentencing judge that his beliefs may preclude his ever being released from jail.
Douglas Slade, who was involved in both the Paedophile Action for Liberation and PIE, was convicted at Bristol Crown Court in June 2016, and sentenced to 24 years imprisonment"
---
"In March 2014, evidence emerged that PIE had received grants totalling £70,000 from the Home Office, after a whistleblower told police he witnessed a successful three-year grant renewal application for £35,000 in 1980, implying that a similar grant had been made in 1977"
--
"Affiliation to the NCCL
Whilst PIE was affiliated with it, the National Council for Civil Liberties (now Liberty) argued that photographs of undressed children should not be considered "indecent" - and therefore illegal - unless it could be proven that the subject had suffered harm or that an inference to that effect or to the effect that harm might have been caused could reasonably be drawn from the images themselves, with Harriet Harman (later deputy leader of the Labour Party) arguing that it would “increase censorship”"
"In May 1978, according to Magpie, NCCL motions were passed supporting PIE's rights and the annual meeting went on to condemn 'attacks' against paedophiles and their supporters"
"In February 2014, Shami Chakrabarti, the director of Liberty, issued an apology for the previous links between the NCCL, as Liberty was then known, and PIE. She said: "It is a source of continuing disgust and horror that even the NCCL had to expel paedophiles from its ranks in 1983 after infiltration at some point in the seventies."
--
"In June 2015, documents emerged as a result of a BBC freedom of information request that revealed the then Conservative Home Secretary, Leon Brittan refused to support a bill designed to outlaw PIE because he considered the law on incitement of sexual activities with children to be "not so clear""
--
"On the 19 July 2015, Australia's 60 Minutes broadcast an investigation of an alleged paedophile ring, into which abused children were supplied by one of PIE founders Peter Righton, who was also a former director of education in the National Institute for Social Work and a legal aide to the Thatcher government. The alleged network was said to include senior public figures such as Greville Janner and Cyril Smith alongside a former head of MI6 Sir Peter Telford Hayman"
---
// as national security fan, hard to read that ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange
8 April 2017 07:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Okey, and just when You start to calm down, then this satens worker comes to mind:
(pedo exchange network global one, that advocate lower age to 4... )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx3AHnDDpJ0
(pedo exchange network global one, that advocate lower age to 4... )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx3AHnDDpJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx3AHnDDpJ0
8 April 2017 07:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey, this makes one a bit calmer
but.. there is many more..
https://www.boychat.org/messages/1349189.htm
No joke, comments like that:
" in reply to Leland Stevenson dies.
posted by Shrink Wrap on 2013-June-3
Whatever the world knows about him he was a great philosopher as well as a spiritual scholar. I have been close to him. I am deeply hurt that he passed away anyways i would like to know the cause of his death and where this happened "
// but i for sure do hope, this comment owner is just tricking to find out from the inner circle pervs was it Really like this..
but.. there is many more..
https://www.boychat.org/messages/1349189.htm
No joke, comments like that:
" in reply to Leland Stevenson dies.
posted by Shrink Wrap on 2013-June-3
Whatever the world knows about him he was a great philosopher as well as a spiritual scholar. I have been close to him. I am deeply hurt that he passed away anyways i would like to know the cause of his death and where this happened "
// but i for sure do hope, this comment owner is just tricking to find out from the inner circle pervs was it Really like this..
https://www.boychat.org/messages/1349189.htm
8 April 2017 07:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just to see one of these kreeps,
is more hard workout then looking 2 cups and one girl, or was it something like that..
is more hard workout then looking 2 cups and one girl, or was it something like that..
8 April 2017 07:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
If J. Edgar Hoover was a Transvestite then is Rudy Giuliani a Gay?
Is the Iraq War more Important than Christian Voters?
Unsubstantiated rumors that J. Edgar Hoover dressed as a drag queen have lead to numerous liberal books that claimed he could have been homosexual. Why is the fact that Giuliani dressed as a drag queen many times not evidence that he could be gay?
If he is not homosexual, he has a anti-Christian gay agenda that belongs in the Democrat Party?
A bigger question is why are so-calling conservative pro-family types such as Pat Robertson, Sean Hannity as well as Fox TV covering up Giuliani's real agenda and homosexual behavior.
Why are numerous conservative talk shows hosts around the country covering up Giuliani's real agenda and homosexual behavior?
Is the Iraq war more important than Christian voters?
Fred
Is Rudy Giuliani Homosexual?
Read the evidence.
Rudy Giuliani dressed as a drag queen doing a skit with Donald Trump for his annual press roast in 2000.
Rudy Giuliani dressed as a drag queen in 1997.
A video slide show. http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid626919000http://www.brightcove.com/channel.jsp?channel=78144477
Rudy Giuliani dressed as a drag queen on Saturday Night Live in 1997.
Just The Facts
· Rudy has openly cross dressed as a drag queen on multiple occasions.
· Rudy lived with a gay lovers Howard Koeppel and Mark Hsiao in 2001.
· Rudy told Howard and Mark he would personally marry them.
· Rudy gave Howard and Mark good-bye kisses every morning.
· Rudy is a member of the Stonewall Veterans Association, a club for homosexuals that participated in the violent Stonewall Inn riots of 1969.
· Rudy was a keynote speaker for the gay Log Cabin Republicans group.
· Rudy hosted eight gay pride parties at his NYC mayor's mansion.
· Rudy attended eight gay pride parades in NYC while mayor, including one that included pedophile group North American Man/Boy Love Association.
· Rudy offered to be on the graphic homosexual show Queer as Folk.
· Rudy told his gay roommates he would consider taking up their lifestyle.
See photos(www.isrudygay.com)
Once was weird enough. But if a single transvestite appearance would have satisfied most public officials, it apparently was just the start for Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani. This weekend, Mr. Giuliani took his act national, appearing as a hirsute grandmother on SNL.
-Elizabeth Kolbert, Mayor in Drag? There He Goes Again, New York Times, 11/24/97
Giuliani -- who once appeared in fishnet stockings with the Rockettes and dressed up for a press dinner as Marilyn Monroe -- may have a tough time selling himself to conservatives.
-Howard Kurtz, Looking Back to 9/10 Rudy, and Ahead to 11/08, Washington Post, 3/5/07
I ask Mr. Koeppel: Is it unexpected that Rudolph Giuliani would be staying with an openly gay couple? ''I don't know if it's any more unusual than him wearing a dress,'' he says.
-Frank Rich, 1 Mayor, 2 Guys, 1 Shih Tzu, New York Times, 8/4/01
Marital problems force the Republican mayor of New York out of Gracie Mansion and into the apartment of a gay friend and his life partner.
-Jed Heyman, Three's Company, Picking Up After Rudy, New York Magazine, 8/31/04
'He did tell us that if they ever legalized gay marriages, we would be the first one he would do.
-Frank Rich, 1 Mayor, 2 Guys, 1 Shih Tzu, New York Times, 8/4/01
“We always get a little kiss, it’s cute,” says Howard Koeppel, with whom Giuliani has been sharing an apartment since June. When Giuliani was recently knighted, Koeppel tells The Times that he told “Sir Rudy” to call him “Queen Howard.”
-Ken Ervin, The Knight and 'The Queen', Concerned Women for America, 11/28/01
The mayor left for City Hall every morning after giving his two hosts a goodbye peck on the cheek — “a little kiss, it’s cute,” Howard Koeppel, told the newspaper — and how Mr. Giuliani affectionately called Mr. Koeppel “mother.”
-Adam Nagourney, New York Label May Not Fit All in Giuliani Run, New York Times, 3/8/07
Rudy W. Giuliani is a honorary member of STONEWALL Veterans' Association comprised of veterans of the 1969 Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Stonewall Rebellion.
-Stonewall Veterans' Association Website, Published 10/31/07, Retrieved 11/20/07
The Log Cabin Web site lists Mr. Giuliani as a model for its brand of Republicanism, and the former mayor spoke to the organization's national convention in 1999.
-Russell Berman, Log Cabin Group Lists Giuliani as Ideal Republican, New York Sun, 3/23/07
Mayor Rudy Giuliani hosted his "8th Annual Gay Pride Celebration" at Gracie [mayor's] Mansion. It was held not as an early morning breakfast but as an evening cocktail party.”
-Stonewall Veterans' Association Website, Published 6/21/07, Retrieved 11/20/07
Giuliani has attended every “gay pride” parade in New York during his eight years as mayor. Giuliani took part in a homosexual “pride” parade that included a contingent of pedophile activists marching behind a banner for NAMBLA.
-Ken Ervin, The Knight and 'The Queen', Concerned Women for America, 11/28/01
Koeppel ribbed Giuliani by saying... Giuliani should agree to appear on Showtime’s controversial Queer as Folk dressed in drag. Surprisingly, Giuliani agreed.
-Ken Ervin, The Knight and 'The Queen', Concerned Women for America, 11/28/01
http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com.ee/2007/11/what-is-rudy-giulianis-real-agenda.html
Is the Iraq War more Important than Christian Voters?
Unsubstantiated rumors that J. Edgar Hoover dressed as a drag queen have lead to numerous liberal books that claimed he could have been homosexual. Why is the fact that Giuliani dressed as a drag queen many times not evidence that he could be gay?
If he is not homosexual, he has a anti-Christian gay agenda that belongs in the Democrat Party?
A bigger question is why are so-calling conservative pro-family types such as Pat Robertson, Sean Hannity as well as Fox TV covering up Giuliani's real agenda and homosexual behavior.
Why are numerous conservative talk shows hosts around the country covering up Giuliani's real agenda and homosexual behavior?
Is the Iraq war more important than Christian voters?
Fred
Is Rudy Giuliani Homosexual?
Read the evidence.
Rudy Giuliani dressed as a drag queen doing a skit with Donald Trump for his annual press roast in 2000.
Rudy Giuliani dressed as a drag queen in 1997.
A video slide show. http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid626919000http://www.brightcove.com/channel.jsp?channel=78144477
Rudy Giuliani dressed as a drag queen on Saturday Night Live in 1997.
Just The Facts
· Rudy has openly cross dressed as a drag queen on multiple occasions.
· Rudy lived with a gay lovers Howard Koeppel and Mark Hsiao in 2001.
· Rudy told Howard and Mark he would personally marry them.
· Rudy gave Howard and Mark good-bye kisses every morning.
· Rudy is a member of the Stonewall Veterans Association, a club for homosexuals that participated in the violent Stonewall Inn riots of 1969.
· Rudy was a keynote speaker for the gay Log Cabin Republicans group.
· Rudy hosted eight gay pride parties at his NYC mayor's mansion.
· Rudy attended eight gay pride parades in NYC while mayor, including one that included pedophile group North American Man/Boy Love Association.
· Rudy offered to be on the graphic homosexual show Queer as Folk.
· Rudy told his gay roommates he would consider taking up their lifestyle.
See photos(www.isrudygay.com)
Once was weird enough. But if a single transvestite appearance would have satisfied most public officials, it apparently was just the start for Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani. This weekend, Mr. Giuliani took his act national, appearing as a hirsute grandmother on SNL.
-Elizabeth Kolbert, Mayor in Drag? There He Goes Again, New York Times, 11/24/97
Giuliani -- who once appeared in fishnet stockings with the Rockettes and dressed up for a press dinner as Marilyn Monroe -- may have a tough time selling himself to conservatives.
-Howard Kurtz, Looking Back to 9/10 Rudy, and Ahead to 11/08, Washington Post, 3/5/07
I ask Mr. Koeppel: Is it unexpected that Rudolph Giuliani would be staying with an openly gay couple? ''I don't know if it's any more unusual than him wearing a dress,'' he says.
-Frank Rich, 1 Mayor, 2 Guys, 1 Shih Tzu, New York Times, 8/4/01
Marital problems force the Republican mayor of New York out of Gracie Mansion and into the apartment of a gay friend and his life partner.
-Jed Heyman, Three's Company, Picking Up After Rudy, New York Magazine, 8/31/04
'He did tell us that if they ever legalized gay marriages, we would be the first one he would do.
-Frank Rich, 1 Mayor, 2 Guys, 1 Shih Tzu, New York Times, 8/4/01
“We always get a little kiss, it’s cute,” says Howard Koeppel, with whom Giuliani has been sharing an apartment since June. When Giuliani was recently knighted, Koeppel tells The Times that he told “Sir Rudy” to call him “Queen Howard.”
-Ken Ervin, The Knight and 'The Queen', Concerned Women for America, 11/28/01
The mayor left for City Hall every morning after giving his two hosts a goodbye peck on the cheek — “a little kiss, it’s cute,” Howard Koeppel, told the newspaper — and how Mr. Giuliani affectionately called Mr. Koeppel “mother.”
-Adam Nagourney, New York Label May Not Fit All in Giuliani Run, New York Times, 3/8/07
Rudy W. Giuliani is a honorary member of STONEWALL Veterans' Association comprised of veterans of the 1969 Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Stonewall Rebellion.
-Stonewall Veterans' Association Website, Published 10/31/07, Retrieved 11/20/07
The Log Cabin Web site lists Mr. Giuliani as a model for its brand of Republicanism, and the former mayor spoke to the organization's national convention in 1999.
-Russell Berman, Log Cabin Group Lists Giuliani as Ideal Republican, New York Sun, 3/23/07
Mayor Rudy Giuliani hosted his "8th Annual Gay Pride Celebration" at Gracie [mayor's] Mansion. It was held not as an early morning breakfast but as an evening cocktail party.”
-Stonewall Veterans' Association Website, Published 6/21/07, Retrieved 11/20/07
Giuliani has attended every “gay pride” parade in New York during his eight years as mayor. Giuliani took part in a homosexual “pride” parade that included a contingent of pedophile activists marching behind a banner for NAMBLA.
-Ken Ervin, The Knight and 'The Queen', Concerned Women for America, 11/28/01
Koeppel ribbed Giuliani by saying... Giuliani should agree to appear on Showtime’s controversial Queer as Folk dressed in drag. Surprisingly, Giuliani agreed.
-Ken Ervin, The Knight and 'The Queen', Concerned Women for America, 11/28/01
http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com.ee/2007/11/what-is-rudy-giulianis-real-agenda.html
8 April 2017 07:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this is proper workout to look this, even this over commented version, and to stay pacifist after this,
seriously, this is proper exercise
minute 9 for example .
seriously, this is proper exercise
minute 9 for example .
8 April 2017 07:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
commenting over doc:, warning this is serious one that is hard to unsee and you need sauna after hearing it, no.. no cursing.. just the energy and vibe is something that should be filtered to make safe looking
https://youtu.be/o7d2irE8CQU?t=330
and this .. can not even find words.. talks about God.. i just can not find words.. arrogance level of these dark worshipers... but well, these kind of beings are allowed to march in NY and have mailbox there and all?
How come no one is fixing it
https://youtu.be/o7d2irE8CQU?t=330
and this .. can not even find words.. talks about God.. i just can not find words.. arrogance level of these dark worshipers... but well, these kind of beings are allowed to march in NY and have mailbox there and all?
How come no one is fixing it
8 April 2017 07:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
commenting on doc:
and this .. can not even find words.. talks about God.. i just can not find words.. but well, these kind of people are allowed to march in NY and have mailbox there and all?
How come no one is running on it ?
https://youtu.be/o7d2irE8CQU?t=330
and this .. can not even find words.. talks about God.. i just can not find words.. but well, these kind of people are allowed to march in NY and have mailbox there and all?
How come no one is running on it ?
https://youtu.be/o7d2irE8CQU?t=330
8 April 2017 07:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Rudy Giuliani: The Knight and ‘The Queen’
According to The London Times, New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani gives kisses before he leaves every morning, but to neither his estranged wife, nor his girlfriend. Instead, says The Times, “Sir Rudy” gives a peck on the cheek to the two homosexual men he’s living with.
“We always get a little kiss, it’s cute,” says wealthy car dealer Howard Koeppel, with whom Giuliani has been sharing an apartment since June. When Giuliani was recently knighted, Koeppel tells The Times that he told “Sir Rudy” to call him “Queen Howard.” Koeppel (63) and his homosexual lover Mark Hsiao (41) have been comforting Giuliani, and trying to make him laugh, in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks.
On the way to a recent fundraising dinner for the pro-homosexual state lobby group, The Empire State Pride Agenda (ESPA), Koeppel ribbed Giuliani by saying that if the ESPA was able to raise $100,000 donation for the homosexual victims of the September 11 attacks, Giuliani should agree to appear on Showtime’s controversial Queer as Folk dressed in drag. Surprisingly, Giuliani agreed.
Marty Algaze of Gay Men’s Health Crisis once summed up Queer as Folk — a show that touts graphic sexual activity as one of its biggest draws — as one that would “shock a lot of people.” Showtime’s Queer as Folk was inspired by the original series in Britain, which featured a storyline in which a 29-year-old man has a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old boy.
The propensity to shock people is not new to Giuliani, who likes to dress in women’s clothes as a stage act, and even did so once at a Pride Agenda fund-raiser.
According to the Times, Giuliani has attended every “gay pride” parade in New York during his eight years as mayor. In 1992, during his first run for mayor, Giuliani took part in a homosexual “pride” parade that included a contingent of pedophile activists marching behind a banner for NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1794318/posts
http://www.stonewallvets.org/RudyGiuliani.htm
According to The London Times, New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani gives kisses before he leaves every morning, but to neither his estranged wife, nor his girlfriend. Instead, says The Times, “Sir Rudy” gives a peck on the cheek to the two homosexual men he’s living with.
“We always get a little kiss, it’s cute,” says wealthy car dealer Howard Koeppel, with whom Giuliani has been sharing an apartment since June. When Giuliani was recently knighted, Koeppel tells The Times that he told “Sir Rudy” to call him “Queen Howard.” Koeppel (63) and his homosexual lover Mark Hsiao (41) have been comforting Giuliani, and trying to make him laugh, in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks.
On the way to a recent fundraising dinner for the pro-homosexual state lobby group, The Empire State Pride Agenda (ESPA), Koeppel ribbed Giuliani by saying that if the ESPA was able to raise $100,000 donation for the homosexual victims of the September 11 attacks, Giuliani should agree to appear on Showtime’s controversial Queer as Folk dressed in drag. Surprisingly, Giuliani agreed.
Marty Algaze of Gay Men’s Health Crisis once summed up Queer as Folk — a show that touts graphic sexual activity as one of its biggest draws — as one that would “shock a lot of people.” Showtime’s Queer as Folk was inspired by the original series in Britain, which featured a storyline in which a 29-year-old man has a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old boy.
The propensity to shock people is not new to Giuliani, who likes to dress in women’s clothes as a stage act, and even did so once at a Pride Agenda fund-raiser.
According to the Times, Giuliani has attended every “gay pride” parade in New York during his eight years as mayor. In 1992, during his first run for mayor, Giuliani took part in a homosexual “pride” parade that included a contingent of pedophile activists marching behind a banner for NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1794318/posts
http://www.stonewallvets.org/RudyGiuliani.htm
8 April 2017 07:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Elton John will perform at Donald Trump’s inauguration, claimed a key adviser, who championed the billionaire as the first president ever to enter the White House with a “pro-gay rights” stance. “Elton John is going to be doing our concert on the mall for Inauguration,” Anthony Scaramucci, a member of the presidential transition team executive committee as well as a vice chair of the presidential inaugural committee, told BBC’s “HARDtalk.” "
8 April 2017 06:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
not much to read here, bu there is a LOT to read here:
but not so much exotic to top other news
http://kevinbaker.info/americas-mayor/
but not so much exotic to top other news
http://kevinbaker.info/americas-mayor/
http://kevinbaker.info/americas-mayor/
8 April 2017 06:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and then they allow this confused woman to talk so pure nonsense:
"“If you are suggesting that physical fitness experts say it’s different, I’ll accept that,” she said. “Except to say that we should not have the girl’s version and the boy’s version of that physical fitness test.”
“But I’ll tell you,” Conway added. “If we were physiologically — not mentally, emotionally, professionally — equal to men, if we were physiologically as strong as men, rape would not exist. You would be able to defend yourself and fight him off.”"
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/trump-campaign-manager-kellyanne-conway-rape-would-not-exist-if-women-were-strong-enough/
"“If you are suggesting that physical fitness experts say it’s different, I’ll accept that,” she said. “Except to say that we should not have the girl’s version and the boy’s version of that physical fitness test.”
“But I’ll tell you,” Conway added. “If we were physiologically — not mentally, emotionally, professionally — equal to men, if we were physiologically as strong as men, rape would not exist. You would be able to defend yourself and fight him off.”"
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/trump-campaign-manager-kellyanne-conway-rape-would-not-exist-if-women-were-strong-enough/
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/trump-campaign-manager-kellyanne-conway-rape-would-not-exist-if-women-were-strong-enough/
8 April 2017 06:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
first i also was thinking this was joke:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/wp-ag/wp-content/uploads/sites/72/2015/08/TrumpRudy1.gif
https://s3.amazonaws.com/wp-ag/wp-content/uploads/sites/72/2015/08/TrumpRudy1.gif
https://s3.amazonaws.com/wp-ag/wp-content/uploads/sites/72/2015/08/TrumpRudy1.gif
8 April 2017 06:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
8 April 2017 06:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"His appearance at an annual political roast was exactly 10 years ago, and at the time, the idea of the tough-talking mayor in a busty ball gown raised eyebrows but was mostly accepted as a good joke — adhering to an unwritten rule for the shenanigans that take place at the roast, known as the Inner Circle dinner.
Shortly after winning re-election that year, Giuliani took his feminine side to a national audience. While hosting “Saturday Night Live,” he appeared in one skit as a bosomy, gray-haired Italian grandmother in lipstick and a flowered housedress, with stockings pulled halfway up his calves.
Now that Giuliani is running for the Republican presidential nomination, experts and political observers are wondering whether those well-photographed and widely documented performances — and others — could damage his campaign. Some say conservatives won’t get the joke and will be turned off by what they see as yet another peek at Giuliani’s exotic, big-city liberal side."
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/18108978/
Shortly after winning re-election that year, Giuliani took his feminine side to a national audience. While hosting “Saturday Night Live,” he appeared in one skit as a bosomy, gray-haired Italian grandmother in lipstick and a flowered housedress, with stockings pulled halfway up his calves.
Now that Giuliani is running for the Republican presidential nomination, experts and political observers are wondering whether those well-photographed and widely documented performances — and others — could damage his campaign. Some say conservatives won’t get the joke and will be turned off by what they see as yet another peek at Giuliani’s exotic, big-city liberal side."
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/18108978/
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/18108978/
8 April 2017 06:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
really disturbing, factual video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI_4MqpWgqk
Who is Bradlee Dean? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U94r3... https://www.facebook.com/BradleeDeanS... Bradlee Dean is the founder and executive director of the non-profit ministry, You Can Run But You Cannot Hide International http://youcanruninternational.com and The Sons of Liberty, which has reached over 500,000 youth in schools across the country. He hosts the number #1 Genesis Communication Network radio show on a national syndication, The Sons of Liberty http://www.sonsoflibertyradio.com, hard-hitting radio program which attacks the hot issues of today, combats the lies in the media, and re-establishes the Christian foundation of our country. Listen to Bradlee Dean's radio broadcast, The Sons of Liberty, Monday - Friday 2-3 pm or Saturdays from 2-4 pm CST
http://gcnlive.com/JW1D/index.php/onair?type=onDem&show=39
As a syndicated columnist for over 40 outlets including WorldNetDaily, Western Journalism, and the Liberty Alliance group, he also has his own media resource http://sonsoflibertymedia.com and is author of the autobiographical graphic novel "My War." Bradlee created a television mini-series documentary titled, 'My War" http://mywarfilm.com which has aired on national television, which he authored, produced, directed, and narrated. Bradlee has been featured on outlets such as FOX News, MSNBC, The New York Times and The Weekly Standard, CNN etc... Even after all of this, Bradlee's most rewarding title and position is serving as husband and "Daddy" to five awesome boys. If you would like to support his ministry please go to https://sonsofliberty.dntly.com/#/
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// this one is some confusing stuff, but maybe has some data in, but it seems also has some propaganda in, but did see some women talking sense in there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh3qyOMXC78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI_4MqpWgqk
Who is Bradlee Dean? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U94r3... https://www.facebook.com/BradleeDeanS... Bradlee Dean is the founder and executive director of the non-profit ministry, You Can Run But You Cannot Hide International http://youcanruninternational.com and The Sons of Liberty, which has reached over 500,000 youth in schools across the country. He hosts the number #1 Genesis Communication Network radio show on a national syndication, The Sons of Liberty http://www.sonsoflibertyradio.com, hard-hitting radio program which attacks the hot issues of today, combats the lies in the media, and re-establishes the Christian foundation of our country. Listen to Bradlee Dean's radio broadcast, The Sons of Liberty, Monday - Friday 2-3 pm or Saturdays from 2-4 pm CST
http://gcnlive.com/JW1D/index.php/onair?type=onDem&show=39
As a syndicated columnist for over 40 outlets including WorldNetDaily, Western Journalism, and the Liberty Alliance group, he also has his own media resource http://sonsoflibertymedia.com and is author of the autobiographical graphic novel "My War." Bradlee created a television mini-series documentary titled, 'My War" http://mywarfilm.com which has aired on national television, which he authored, produced, directed, and narrated. Bradlee has been featured on outlets such as FOX News, MSNBC, The New York Times and The Weekly Standard, CNN etc... Even after all of this, Bradlee's most rewarding title and position is serving as husband and "Daddy" to five awesome boys. If you would like to support his ministry please go to https://sonsofliberty.dntly.com/#/
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// this one is some confusing stuff, but maybe has some data in, but it seems also has some propaganda in, but did see some women talking sense in there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh3qyOMXC78
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mI_4MqpWgqk/maxresdefault.jpg
8 April 2017 06:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Gannon came under public scrutiny for his lack of a journalistic background prior to his work with Talon[5][6] and his involvement with various gay escort service websites using the professional name "Bulldog.""
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon
// did he take DNA test? Noo... seems there is no news about it..
// i think these people are inserted by FSB (Russia) or something like that, in purpose to get revealed, and many others, to eliminate republican's with all these homo pedo scandals and now the supposed Leninist in security counsel permanent seat (well, wonder if he was implanted there by design eliminating other candidates.. )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon
// did he take DNA test? Noo... seems there is no news about it..
// i think these people are inserted by FSB (Russia) or something like that, in purpose to get revealed, and many others, to eliminate republican's with all these homo pedo scandals and now the supposed Leninist in security counsel permanent seat (well, wonder if he was implanted there by design eliminating other candidates.. )
8 April 2017 06:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
military man for man.. wtf world is it
Greek-Roman all over again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCfrVFfFtzU
Greek-Roman all over again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCfrVFfFtzU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCfrVFfFtzU
8 April 2017 06:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
MSNBS another good reporter, i like their direct approach
have heard that it was some liberal silly news channel but seems they ask/direct news pretty well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPtYm-8N2I
have heard that it was some liberal silly news channel but seems they ask/direct news pretty well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXPtYm-8N2I
8 April 2017 06:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Here seems to be also some typical mistakes and wrong connections, but still one of the most information rich readable posts on it from their point of view, with a many good bits of factual data and hints:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/barbara-durfee/the-alleged-podesta-pedophile-scandal-and-other-sundry-foul-revelations-about-th/1268638616511330/
https://www.facebook.com/notes/barbara-durfee/the-alleged-podesta-pedophile-scandal-and-other-sundry-foul-revelations-about-th/1268638616511330/
8 April 2017 06:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
full doc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOtrUWWpVrY&feature=fvw&has_verified=1
8 April 2017 05:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Bacha Bazi is an Urdu term meaning child play. It is recognized as sexual slavery and child prostitution. Prepubescent children are sold to wealthy or powerful men for entertainment and sexual activities. This business thrives in northern Afghanistan, where many men keep them as status symbols. Some of the individuals involved report being forced into sex, while others report strong emotional and physical bonds formed over the course of relationships lasting many years, often into the boys' adulthood. At times the relationships interfere with the man's marriage. Occasionally the boy will marry his lover's daughter when he comes of age. The authorities are attempting to crack down on the practice as "un-Islamic and immoral acts" but many doubt it would be effective since many of the men are powerful and well-armed former commanders.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacch%C3%A1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacch%C3%A1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacch%C3%A1
8 April 2017 05:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
NABLA kinds in other side of world :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXBmIuxjJn0
http://www.metro.co.uk/metrolife/822591-the-dancing-boys-of-afghanistan-a-deceptively-titled-depiction-of-disturbing-reality
For this haunting, melancholy film, which explored the Afghan tradition of bacha bazi (loosely translated as 'boy play'), offered a disturbing illustration of what happens when you cut women out of the picture.
With women hidden out of sight in Afghan society, rich and powerful men turned their attention to boys aged 11 and up, dressing them in feminine clothes, adorning them with bells and trinkets and training them as twirling, dancing dolls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXBmIuxjJn0
http://www.metro.co.uk/metrolife/822591-the-dancing-boys-of-afghanistan-a-deceptively-titled-depiction-of-disturbing-reality
For this haunting, melancholy film, which explored the Afghan tradition of bacha bazi (loosely translated as 'boy play'), offered a disturbing illustration of what happens when you cut women out of the picture.
With women hidden out of sight in Afghan society, rich and powerful men turned their attention to boys aged 11 and up, dressing them in feminine clothes, adorning them with bells and trinkets and training them as twirling, dancing dolls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXBmIuxjJn0
8 April 2017 05:34
Margus Meigo commented on Leda May's post.
Group: The Real Worldwide Truth Movement!
this drag-queen sicko talking about other people illnesses?8 April 2017 05:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Yes, the same fheads who protect people like that,
usually these stories are a bit yellow but in this case....
Of-course their trick is to blame it on royals and known elite names who are on their way..
// every country needs to start to make PRE prevention law for ANY similar organization to EVER get ANY legal protection or ground to flourish, ever!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2844765/Paedophile-orgies-luxury-flats-claims-three-boys-murdered-VIPs-Special-report-growing-stench-cover-Establishment.html
usually these stories are a bit yellow but in this case....
Of-course their trick is to blame it on royals and known elite names who are on their way..
// every country needs to start to make PRE prevention law for ANY similar organization to EVER get ANY legal protection or ground to flourish, ever!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2844765/Paedophile-orgies-luxury-flats-claims-three-boys-murdered-VIPs-Special-report-growing-stench-cover-Establishment.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2844765/Paedophile-orgies-luxury-flats-claims-three-boys-murdered-VIPs-Special-report-growing-stench-cover-Establishment.html
8 April 2017 04:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
8 April 2017 04:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
8 April 2017 04:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
They had public newsletter and magazines and evrything,
it is so sick be on limits how far they not afraid to go, that not much to add here:
https://www.nambla.org/B25-3.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20120629165513/http://nambla.org/B25-3.pdf
it is so sick be on limits how far they not afraid to go, that not much to add here:
https://www.nambla.org/B25-3.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20120629165513/http://nambla.org/B25-3.pdf
8 April 2017 04:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
8 April 2017 03:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
no wonder, they are any women... in general..Trump history about last wife's assaults and strange sexual comments he allowed to be made by other man on air about hes child is also ,,, really freaky to say at least. .
Not even going in to current poor wife's history that was told happened actually on these times when she made lesbian shoots, what was told, for what these houses really was.
Seems he needed a women who he can control and make powerless. But She seems the kind of women, who will come out one day... in revenge for all abuse of many kind
Not even going in to current poor wife's history that was told happened actually on these times when she made lesbian shoots, what was told, for what these houses really was.
Seems he needed a women who he can control and make powerless. But She seems the kind of women, who will come out one day... in revenge for all abuse of many kind
8 April 2017 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
was kind of shocked to find, this was not a joke : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bafvfd41dWc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bafvfd41dWc
8 April 2017 03:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Cross-dressing and gay thing is one thing.. but he seems not to be worried about pederasty group "boys for man" NAMBL also.. http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com.ee/2007/11/what-is-rudy-giulianis-real-agenda.html
http://catholicmonitor.blogspot.com.ee/2007/11/what-is-rudy-giulianis-real-agenda.html
8 April 2017 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1794318/posts
8 April 2017 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on Richard W. Furey's post.
whiteout a question, any kind of cruel's general
8 April 2017 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
Gert Klaaser voot kus on kutt!
Kuid see vist planeeritud vide eks, ega siis päriselt, mopeedi mees annab ära asja
Kuid see vist planeeritud vide eks, ega siis päriselt, mopeedi mees annab ära asja
7 April 2017 23:18
Margus Meigo replied to Jody Freitas's comment.
Kim Marcussen i can not see any for a moment
7 April 2017 23:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Peatame sõja!
selles osas on G. Bush palju reaalsem tegelane, tema vist isegi päriselt harki ka käes hoidnud7 April 2017 17:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Peatame sõja!
kuid jah, kui oled rikas siis ole päriselt rikas, miks selle lipsuga võltsida.. see ka jah, .. lipsumehed on lipsumehed..7 April 2017 17:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Peatame sõja!
Rudy Giuliani osa muidugi oli päris.. jah okey, huumor huumoriks7 April 2017 17:34
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Tuisk's post.
Group: Peatame sõja!
// väike kanaldus // ramp, ärge siit õiget kirjastiili otsige, kuid lihtsalt, selline selle peale:
Tsiviliseeritud riikie eesotsas on muidugi vaieldamatult Praeguse usa valitsuse tippude arvates venemaa, kellel on oma rannajoone lepinguid ja muid huve Syyrias vaja kaitsta kus baase hoida strateegiliseks globaalseks sõjaks ja väljapresimiseks, kultuuriliseks kontroliks, ideoloogiat ohustava kultuuripärandi hävitamiseks jms.,
Kuid jah, kurb, hirmuäratav, et Eestlased kes peaksid taiplikuse maailma vaieldamatus tipus olema, kuna me vanemad teatsid mida ja kuidas lugeda seeaeg kui suur osa enamusest maailma massistjubapopulistlikuks muutus... on nii pehmeks oma teravuses muutunud, et ma ei hakka siin isegi rääkima sellest, kui suur vaikus nõusolekus ustava keskerakonna ärirüütli peaministri valimise järel on tekkinud,
võrreldes selle FSB läbi eestlaste organiseeritud riigivastase rõiva kampaaniaga,
kes on teada, miljardnär, kelle eelmisi naised on kohtus lahtustes rääkinud, et põhjuseks oli vägistamised ja juuste peast välja kiskumised jms (mis on äärimiselt julge samm sellise mehe vastu nii rääkida kes Su ära kaotada saab kiiresti..),
kes praegu võtnud omale arvatava prostituudi taustaga naise, et täielikku võimu omada ilma kartuseta, et to julgeks midagi teha ja siseasjadest rääkida.... et see pole mingi vandenõu,
pildid on vanadest ajakirjadest saadaval kus tal naine lesbitseene tegi ja selle majaga tuttavad olnud pornokunnid räägivad teadlikult, et pildiseeria oli lihtsalt cover sellistel majadel ja eriti sellel, et tegelik raha ja tegevus hoopis tõsisematel teemadel toimus.. ja see polnud minig kuulujutt vaid eskorteenuste inimeste elementaarne arusaam
ja siis selline multi-kulti mees, kes võõra maa naise võtnud endale, ...
kes on teada, et vahetab MIS IGANES poolt kui see talle võimu poolt kauslik, .. (või siis selle võimu kes teda ikoonina, posterpoisina hoiab..)
et asume siin arutama, vanamehe üle, kes on teada, et siiani austamatu pervert ja naisepetja,
kes oma tütre osas kelle osas ise seksuaalseid komentaare pillub lubab ka teistel otse eetris arutada et "päris kena tükk perset su tütar" ...
kes paar kuud peale abielu räägib teiste naiste vitttust haaramistest .. mis väärtusi tal olla saab.. ja mees kes määras esimese hooga RIIGI sekretäriks, inimese kes puutililt sõpruse ordeni saanud Ametliku, ja kes tuntud kui suurim venemaa sõber kes olnud on siiani peale külma sõda, kellel meeletud kütuse diilid venemaaga tasemetel mis ajaloos ennenähtamatud sellises koosluses... ...
Tüüp kes kasutab oma sharmi kuidas juhtub (jaa seda tal on, näitlemis oskus on tasemel) ja kellel on vabadus rääkida mida tema grupp soovib või mida tahab sest ta on MILJARDNÄR kelle seljataga maafiamehi, kokaiini diilereid kellega on ka avalikud dokumenteeritud sümbioosid tal olnud, et siis seda enesekindlust ja nö ausust tõlgendatakse nagu mingi väärtusega mida kummardada... päris hale kohe inimrassist.
Muidugi mitte, et inimesel ei võiks olla sõprussuhteid maafia ja venemaaga, suurelt mõtlevatel inimestel vaja palju sõpru. Oleneb kuidas neid sõprusi kasutab ja seda kuidas kasutab on arusaada inimese isikliku elu väärtusest, et kas on kindlalt auväärne inmene moraalidega kes pätid paika paneb või allub pigem gruppi perversustele ja mustadele mõtetele, et mitte "pehmik" olla, siseringis...
Pea kõik võib isegi andeks anda,aga mitte Naise asja,
olgu isegi kommude ja natside siseringi mees ja uue maailmakorra ümarlauas, plaanigu riigi seest hävitamist (nagu ta Väidetavalt Leninistist "natsilik" Steve Bannon ütles, kelle Trump riigi sügavamate saladuste ruumi alatiseks liikmeks lisas, kuig jah see veel tõestamatta, va tema muud "establisment" vastased sõnavõtud, ja punaste jaoks on "establisment" igasugune inimõigusi ja rojaalsust esilekutsuv sinine jõud, teatavasti, kuigi eks siin raske enesestmõistetavalt aru saada, kui kahepealine kotkas nii punase kommu kui valge netside mõlemat ekstreemi juhib) ... et seda saab öelda, et see lihtsalt suurem ja parem ideoloogia mis neil on ja teised ei saa aru, olgu, saab nii olla, et tulnukate või Jehoovaenda saadikute käsul toimetavad, kuid kui inimene on vahele jäänud, naiste alandamise ja ülelaskmisega, naiste maha tegemise ja naiste vastaste käitumistega.. siis see on Kindel märk, et siin on midagi Väga tõenäoselt miskit suurt Väga valesti.
See "white power" Steve Bannon tegi ka suurt progressi et homosi ameerika skautide osas akseteerima hakatakse, ta ise selle esinduse suur liider ka ju. Selleasemel, et võtta munad kokku ja julgedaselgitada, et see sobimatu vaimne ja kutluuriline haigus on. Aids saab ka sünniga kaasas olla mõnel, see ei tähenda, et see normaalne on.
Elementaarne arusaam peaks olema,
(mis vene mõttemaailmaga ühtivad, pea meeles, venemaa kotkal on kaks pead, üks punane teine valge, korralik kord mida nemad kogu planeedil reguleerivad, rooma impeeriumi järglasena, ega need viisnurgad naljapärast igalpool weebilehitsejast kuni lippude ja rahani, väär relgiooni, anarhistide ja popkultuuri, ning osade luure agentuuri logodeni ole...).
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Nagu ka üks Trumbile väheseid teadaolevaid avalikke sümpaatiaid venemaalt, , Zirinovsky juba ammu ütles "Me (Vene Valitsuse Eliit) Valime ISE peagi USAs endale ENDA presidendi"
Nad mass-psüholoogia spetsid ja ka elektroonika vallas, mis lihtsaid tööriistu enda kasuks tööle panna praktiliselt pool leikoplasti stiilis, kui vaja, nad alla ei jäää.. ning inim ja elektroonika bottidega mass arvamust muuta
(1000 INIMbotti mis maksavad alla 12 milli aastas, toodavad üle millioni postituse/kommentaari päevas kergesti,enamasti need ju copy-paste kommetaarid, või siis personaalsest ideoloogiast inspireeritud, ega nad siis suvalisi kontorirotte ei paka..need kes ka tasuta teeks ikka,,, kuid need kombineeritakse veel postituste edasisaatmis tehnliste bottide-robotitega-ga...meedia toega...),
ja ideoloogilised ligipääsud mitmele kanalile päris suure edu toodavad... Hillary wast ise ka aru saab miks see võlts toetajaskond ta tagant järsku ära kaotas... see oli kellegi teise pesa mis end nende ümber keeranud... mis saab kaitsest poovaks puuriks ja nendevastaseks relvaks üle öö muuta kui vaja... sestnenderahastajate idioloogiad on paika pantud, ootele...
(CNN ile nad muidugi ei saanud täis kontrolli, selle pärast nad siiani maruvihased, CNN Money ka pea ainukesena avalikust meedia tipust julgenud LSD ja meeli avardavate tehnoloogiate osas kallutamatta uudist teha, mis on üks Rooma impeeriumile väga kahjulikke, marru ajavaid asju, sest node asjadega kokku puutunud... aju ei ole samas ettearvatavas mõttekoosluses enam, mille jaoks kogu illusioonid ettevalmistatud on suure tööga. ja kui juhtuvad targemad inimesed olema kes nende asjadega kokku puutuvad (nagu USA testis ju seda ka teadlaste peal 100% positiivsete vaieldamatu tulemustega), õiges keskonnas, siis tulemused on lõpuks valepõhistele süsteemidele täiesti fataalsed. )
Vot jah, eks siit sõnade sasipuntrast keegi saa seda mis vaja. Muidugi kui neid kellel kogu see asi mingit raskust ei valmista, siis oleks tore kui ühedusemärguande annate.
Ahjaa: https://youtu.be/46ZLAT7BY_s?t=101https://youtu.be/46ZLAT7BY_s?t=101
7 April 2017 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
//good
http://www.israelinprophecy.org/wiki/pmwiki.php/Links/ListAll
his page lists all the Sites (Messianic and otherwise) we've collected. This list does not imply that we associate ourselves with every site included nor that our categorization leaves no room for reassignment to one or more other categories. This list is entirely at the user's discretion.
The following classification is used:
http://www.israelinprophecy.org/wiki/pmwiki.php/Links/ListAll
his page lists all the Sites (Messianic and otherwise) we've collected. This list does not imply that we associate ourselves with every site included nor that our categorization leaves no room for reassignment to one or more other categories. This list is entirely at the user's discretion.
The following classification is used:
http://www.israelinprophecy.org/wiki/pmwiki.php/Links/ListAll
7 April 2017 04:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
No other message that I have preached has been more endorsed prophetically and supernaturally than “the call of the Nazirite.” It has been foundational to TheCall and to the prayer and fasting movement and has erupted among young people in the last ten years. It has also been the spirit behind the Bound4LIFE prayer movement and is presently challenging...
http://www.thecall.com/product/nazirite-dna
//uurida kas on kommunisti taustaga
//usuproject, test
http://www.identitynetwork.org/apps/articles/default.asp?articleid=37582&columnid=2093
THE NAZIRITE UPRISING
by Lou Engle TheCall.com
"America is receiving Her apostles, prophets, and evangelists, but She has not yet seen Her Nazirites!"
This audible voice from the Lord reverberated through my whole being, jarring me out of a deep sleep into a wakened attentiveness to the Holy Spirit. I knew that the Lord had spoken to me.
In fact, God's answer had come quickly to my heart's searching the night before when my 13-year old son had asked permission with determined insistence to take the Nazirite vow of Numbers 6:1-21. In his persistence, he said to me, "Dad, I don't want to cut my hair until TheCall DC" which was 8 months away at the time. He continued, "I don't want to eat meats and sweets until TheCall and I want to go on a juice fast the 40 days before TheCall. And Dad, I don't want to play baseball this year. I want to run with you and pray for revival in America."
The voice of the Lord could not have been any clearer to me through that audible voice encounter. I could hear the Lord saying to me through that encounter: "Lou, do not hinder your son from being extreme for Me. Let the young man go for it. Let him go as far as he can go with his consecration before Me. I am the One raising up the Nazirites." With fear and trembling, I knew what He was saying and I knew the holy admonition of Amos 2:11-12 where God thundered, "I raised up some of your sons as prophets, and some of your young men as Nazirites... But you gave the Nazirites wine to drink, and commanded the prophets saying, 'Do not prophesy!'"
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As before we just pray that the Nazirites will rise up, today we are "intentionally" raising them up! Its time to see the Elijah Generation mature and be released! This training is not just for those in the ministry, but more importantly those in the Business or Marketplace; Media, Government and the Arts. Even young people seeking to make a difference in their generation will be changed by this training.
I encourage you to seize the opportunity, for the timing is now! Philippines needs to see its Nazirites! The groaning of this generation increases!
http://www.jesusrev.com/nazarite-training.html
(still same aslast 3)
// Even specialiced business:
http://www.ntssoftware.com/
http://www.thecall.com/product/nazirite-dna
//uurida kas on kommunisti taustaga
//usuproject, test
http://www.identitynetwork.org/apps/articles/default.asp?articleid=37582&columnid=2093
THE NAZIRITE UPRISING
by Lou Engle TheCall.com
"America is receiving Her apostles, prophets, and evangelists, but She has not yet seen Her Nazirites!"
This audible voice from the Lord reverberated through my whole being, jarring me out of a deep sleep into a wakened attentiveness to the Holy Spirit. I knew that the Lord had spoken to me.
In fact, God's answer had come quickly to my heart's searching the night before when my 13-year old son had asked permission with determined insistence to take the Nazirite vow of Numbers 6:1-21. In his persistence, he said to me, "Dad, I don't want to cut my hair until TheCall DC" which was 8 months away at the time. He continued, "I don't want to eat meats and sweets until TheCall and I want to go on a juice fast the 40 days before TheCall. And Dad, I don't want to play baseball this year. I want to run with you and pray for revival in America."
The voice of the Lord could not have been any clearer to me through that audible voice encounter. I could hear the Lord saying to me through that encounter: "Lou, do not hinder your son from being extreme for Me. Let the young man go for it. Let him go as far as he can go with his consecration before Me. I am the One raising up the Nazirites." With fear and trembling, I knew what He was saying and I knew the holy admonition of Amos 2:11-12 where God thundered, "I raised up some of your sons as prophets, and some of your young men as Nazirites... But you gave the Nazirites wine to drink, and commanded the prophets saying, 'Do not prophesy!'"
---
As before we just pray that the Nazirites will rise up, today we are "intentionally" raising them up! Its time to see the Elijah Generation mature and be released! This training is not just for those in the ministry, but more importantly those in the Business or Marketplace; Media, Government and the Arts. Even young people seeking to make a difference in their generation will be changed by this training.
I encourage you to seize the opportunity, for the timing is now! Philippines needs to see its Nazirites! The groaning of this generation increases!
http://www.jesusrev.com/nazarite-training.html
(still same aslast 3)
// Even specialiced business:
http://www.ntssoftware.com/
http://www.thecall.com/product/nazirite-dna
7 April 2017 04:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The preacher's
Nazarene Judaism is the ancient and original
Jewish sect of the original
Jewish followers of Yeshua as the Jewish Messiah of Judaism.
We believe Yeshua came to be the Messiah of Judaism,
not to create a new non-Jewish religion.
http://nazarenejudaism.com/
http://www.hope-of-israel.org/nazarene.htm
The Early Nazarene Christians and Rabbinic Judaism
During early New Testament times, the relationship between the Pharisees, Sadducees and Christians was often turbulent and deeply troubled. Matters grew even worse after the fall of the Temple in 70 A.D. Rabbinic Judaism, which rejected Yeshua as the Messiah, became increasingly hostile toward the Nazarene Christians. Rabbi Akiva even endorsed the renegade Bar Kochba as the "Messiah." Eventually, the rabbis even put a "curse" into the daily synagogue prayers, the amida, which directly cursed the nozri or Nazarenes and other similar minim or "heretics"! Here is the intriguing saga.
by HOIM Staff
What were the earliest Christians called? Scripture tells us that early believers in the Messiah were first called "Christians"or "Messianics," as the Greek would imply -- at the Gentile city of Antioch -- and that appellation was a derogatory term given to them by the local unbelievers, not a name they chose for themselves (see Acts 11:26). The term was also used by king Agrippa when he listened to Paul's defense, and finally blurted out, "Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian" (Acts 26:28).
Regardless of the origin of the term, however, the apostle Peter later used it himself to describe the followers of the Messiah. He wrote, "Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God on this behalf" (I Pet. 4:16). The Greek word is Christianos, from the word Christos, meaning "Messiah," or "Anointed one."
What's the primary differences between the Nazarene and Wesleyan denominations?
Wesleyan official doctrine is a little more conservative. I'd say Wesleyans are probably a little less concerned, as a denomination, about being recognized. It seems like the Church of the Nazarene cares a bit more about legitimacy (which manifests itself in a bit more politics and administration)
http://www.naznet.com/community/showthread.php/5231-What-s-the-difference-between-Nazarenes-and-Wesleyans
Wesleyan beliefs/articles of faith http://www.wesleyan.org/beliefs
Both are Wesleyan Armenian in doctrine.
For one, Nazarenes believe Scripture errors. Wesleyans do not as they believe Scripture is infallible and inerrant. It does not take an insider to recognize the implications of such a difference.
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Recently the Wesleyan Foundation (whose directors are elected by the General Board of the Wesleyan Church) bailed out both my place of employment (MidAmerica Nazarene University) and The Church of the Nazarene Global Ministry Center from tough financial situations. I would conclude from this that the Wesleyan denomination has had better financial wisdom (or luck) in recent years than have we Nazarenes
BILL
The Nazarenes sell debt and the Wesleyans buy debt. TO be clear, The Nazarenes have paid off their debt on the new HDQTRS building, passed papers on the sale of the old HDQTRS buidling, after paying off our debt perhaps several millions in the bank. Wesleyans are in good condition to too, owning a loan fund of nearly $500 M Seems like the Wesleyans might be worth more than Nazarenes. But Jesus has canceled all our sins.
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The mission of the Church of the Nazarene is to make Christlike disciples in the nations.
http://www.nazarene.org/about-nazarenes
Doctrinal and Ethical Positions Church of the Nazarene
http://www.crivoice.org/creednazarene.html
Appointment Of A New President at ENC: Symptom of A Major Problem In The Nazarene Church
https://reformednazarene.wordpress.com/
The Nazarene Theological College (NTC) is located in the Brisbane suburb of Thornlands, and has been preparing people for Christian service for over fifty years.
Nazarene Youth International (NYI), is the youth ministry of the Church of the Nazarene
Nazarene Missions International (NMI)
NMI logoThe purpose of NMI is to mobilize the church in mission through praying, discipling, giving, and educating.
http://www.nazarene.org.au/
Welcome to the Church of the Nazarene Africa Region
The Church of the Nazarene is a Protestant Christian church in the Wesleyan-Holiness tradition. Organized in 1908, it was founded to spread the message of scriptural holiness (Christlike living). The Church is now home to more than 2 million members worshiping in over 26,000 local congregations in 159 world areas
http://www.africanazarene.org/about-us
THE CRISIS CONTINUES: HOW NAZARENE CHURCHES ARE RESPONDING
It’s been six years since the start of the war in Syria
http://www.ncm.org/refugees.html
Chances are, if you ask 10 people, you’ll probably get at least 11 answers as to what the Bible is and what it’s used for ranging from cute acronyms like “Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth,” to Owner’s Manual, Magic 8 Ball,
Book of Systematic Theology, Science and History Textbook, Book of Promises, etc.
Each has assumptions behind it that may leave readers confused, misguided, or disillusioned. We really need to look at the Bible on three levels:
physical (what it consists of), historical (where/who did it as a whole and its individual books come from), and
spiritual (what is its purpose).
http://manaz.org/
http://manaz.org/filerequest/2255.pdf
The idea of detailed inerrancy actually originated in the 1500’s with those who followed Reformer John Calvin.
Nazarene Judaism is the ancient and original
Jewish sect of the original
Jewish followers of Yeshua as the Jewish Messiah of Judaism.
We believe Yeshua came to be the Messiah of Judaism,
not to create a new non-Jewish religion.
http://nazarenejudaism.com/
http://www.hope-of-israel.org/nazarene.htm
The Early Nazarene Christians and Rabbinic Judaism
During early New Testament times, the relationship between the Pharisees, Sadducees and Christians was often turbulent and deeply troubled. Matters grew even worse after the fall of the Temple in 70 A.D. Rabbinic Judaism, which rejected Yeshua as the Messiah, became increasingly hostile toward the Nazarene Christians. Rabbi Akiva even endorsed the renegade Bar Kochba as the "Messiah." Eventually, the rabbis even put a "curse" into the daily synagogue prayers, the amida, which directly cursed the nozri or Nazarenes and other similar minim or "heretics"! Here is the intriguing saga.
by HOIM Staff
What were the earliest Christians called? Scripture tells us that early believers in the Messiah were first called "Christians"or "Messianics," as the Greek would imply -- at the Gentile city of Antioch -- and that appellation was a derogatory term given to them by the local unbelievers, not a name they chose for themselves (see Acts 11:26). The term was also used by king Agrippa when he listened to Paul's defense, and finally blurted out, "Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian" (Acts 26:28).
Regardless of the origin of the term, however, the apostle Peter later used it himself to describe the followers of the Messiah. He wrote, "Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God on this behalf" (I Pet. 4:16). The Greek word is Christianos, from the word Christos, meaning "Messiah," or "Anointed one."
What's the primary differences between the Nazarene and Wesleyan denominations?
Wesleyan official doctrine is a little more conservative. I'd say Wesleyans are probably a little less concerned, as a denomination, about being recognized. It seems like the Church of the Nazarene cares a bit more about legitimacy (which manifests itself in a bit more politics and administration)
http://www.naznet.com/community/showthread.php/5231-What-s-the-difference-between-Nazarenes-and-Wesleyans
Wesleyan beliefs/articles of faith http://www.wesleyan.org/beliefs
Both are Wesleyan Armenian in doctrine.
For one, Nazarenes believe Scripture errors. Wesleyans do not as they believe Scripture is infallible and inerrant. It does not take an insider to recognize the implications of such a difference.
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Recently the Wesleyan Foundation (whose directors are elected by the General Board of the Wesleyan Church) bailed out both my place of employment (MidAmerica Nazarene University) and The Church of the Nazarene Global Ministry Center from tough financial situations. I would conclude from this that the Wesleyan denomination has had better financial wisdom (or luck) in recent years than have we Nazarenes
BILL
The Nazarenes sell debt and the Wesleyans buy debt. TO be clear, The Nazarenes have paid off their debt on the new HDQTRS building, passed papers on the sale of the old HDQTRS buidling, after paying off our debt perhaps several millions in the bank. Wesleyans are in good condition to too, owning a loan fund of nearly $500 M Seems like the Wesleyans might be worth more than Nazarenes. But Jesus has canceled all our sins.
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The mission of the Church of the Nazarene is to make Christlike disciples in the nations.
http://www.nazarene.org/about-nazarenes
Doctrinal and Ethical Positions Church of the Nazarene
http://www.crivoice.org/creednazarene.html
Appointment Of A New President at ENC: Symptom of A Major Problem In The Nazarene Church
https://reformednazarene.wordpress.com/
The Nazarene Theological College (NTC) is located in the Brisbane suburb of Thornlands, and has been preparing people for Christian service for over fifty years.
Nazarene Youth International (NYI), is the youth ministry of the Church of the Nazarene
Nazarene Missions International (NMI)
NMI logoThe purpose of NMI is to mobilize the church in mission through praying, discipling, giving, and educating.
http://www.nazarene.org.au/
Welcome to the Church of the Nazarene Africa Region
The Church of the Nazarene is a Protestant Christian church in the Wesleyan-Holiness tradition. Organized in 1908, it was founded to spread the message of scriptural holiness (Christlike living). The Church is now home to more than 2 million members worshiping in over 26,000 local congregations in 159 world areas
http://www.africanazarene.org/about-us
THE CRISIS CONTINUES: HOW NAZARENE CHURCHES ARE RESPONDING
It’s been six years since the start of the war in Syria
http://www.ncm.org/refugees.html
Chances are, if you ask 10 people, you’ll probably get at least 11 answers as to what the Bible is and what it’s used for ranging from cute acronyms like “Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth,” to Owner’s Manual, Magic 8 Ball,
Book of Systematic Theology, Science and History Textbook, Book of Promises, etc.
Each has assumptions behind it that may leave readers confused, misguided, or disillusioned. We really need to look at the Bible on three levels:
physical (what it consists of), historical (where/who did it as a whole and its individual books come from), and
spiritual (what is its purpose).
http://manaz.org/
http://manaz.org/filerequest/2255.pdf
The idea of detailed inerrancy actually originated in the 1500’s with those who followed Reformer John Calvin.
http://nazarenejudaism.com/
7 April 2017 04:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Explenatins:
NAZIRITE, person who vows for a specific period to abstain from partaking of grapes or any of its products whether intoxicating or not, cutting his hair, and touching a corpse (6:3–9). Such a person is called a Nazirite (Heb. nazir, נָזִיר) from the root nzr (נזר), meaning to separate or dedicate oneself (e.g., nifal, Lev. 22:2; hifil, Lev. 15:31; Num. 6:2, 5, 12). The subject is dealt with in the Priestly Code (Num. 6:1–21) and the purpose of the law is to prescribe the proper ritual if the Nazirite period is aborted by corpse contamination (Num. 6:9–12) or if it is successfully completed (6:13–21).
In the person of the Nazirite, the layman is given a status resembling that of the priest, as he now is "holy to the Lord" (Lev. 21:6; Num. 6:8; cf. Philo, I LA, 249). Actually, in his taboos, he approximates more the higher sanctity of the high priest in that (1) He may not contaminate himself with the dead of his immediate family (Lev. 21:11; Num. 6:7; cf. the ordinary priest, Lev. 21:1–4); (2) For him, as for the high priest, the head is the focus of sanctity (Ex. 29:7; Num. 6:11b. Note the same motive clauses, Lev. 21:12b; Num. 6:7b and compare the dedication of the ordinary priest, Ex. 29:21); (3) He abstains from intoxicants during his term (Num. 6:4)–a more stringent requirement than that of the high priest, whose abstinence, like that of his fellow priests, is limited to the time he is in the Sanctuary (Lev. 10:9).
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/nazirite
Abstinence, Celibacy and Nazirites
In Hebrew the term Nazirite is ‘Nazir’ (נְזִיר). We will talk more later about the specifics of the Nazirite Vow, but the first use of the term ‘Nazir’ occurs in Genesis 49, where we are told that our forefather Joseph was ‘Nazir’ (נְזִיר), or ‘separated’ from his brothers in order to fulfill YHWH’s divine purpose.
What this passage shows us is that one can become ‘Nazir’ (‘separated’) even unintentionally. By the very act of being sent into Egypt, Joseph had become a ‘Nazir’ (separated).
http://www.nazareneisrael.org/books/covenant-relationships/abstinence-celibacy-and-nazirites/
(Mishle (Proverbs) 18:1
1 A man who isolates himself seeks his own desire; he rages against all wise judgment.)
//not really a true explenation about grape:
http://etzion.org.il/en/nazirite
According to Jewish tradition there are 613 commandments. The Torah enjoins us: "Be careful to observe everything that I prescribe to you. Do not add to it and do not subtract from it" (Deuteronomy 13:1). The 613 commandments oblige the people of Israel and are the essence of the covenant between God and Israel. The commandments are generally automatically binding. However, there are a few commandments which are by definition voluntary. Among these is the commandment of the 'nazirite.'
The Torah lists the prohibitions resulting from a nazirite vow. The restrictions may be divided into three categories:
1) Abstinence from grapes and grape products (verses 3,4)
2) Prohibition of cutting the hair of the head (v. 5)
3) Prohibition of becoming ritually impure through contact with a corpse (v. 6,7)
Just want to say, that on http://etzion.org.il/en/nazirite ,
part about grapes, is aria where You need to think a lot more.
Nazarene Judaism is the ancient and original
Jewish sect of the original
Jewish followers of Yeshua as the Jewish Messiah of Judaism.
We believe Yeshua came to be the Messiah of Judaism,
not to create a new non-Jewish religion.
http://nazarenejudaism.com/
http://www.come-and-hear.com/nazir/nazir_4.html
Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Nazir
Folio 4a
But surely here he is bound by the oath taken on Mount Sinai?1 — We must therefore suppose the following dictum of Raba to be indicated, [Viz.:] — [If a man says,] 'I swear to drink [wine]' and later says, 'I wish to be a nazirite,' the nazirite vow operates despite the oath.2
And do not the Rabbis also require [this verse] to prohibit wine, the drinking of which is a ritual obligation as well as wine the drinking of which is optional? — If this were its [sole] purpose, only wine need have been mentioned in the verse! [What is the purport of the addition] of 'strong drink'! It is to enable us to infer both things.3 And R. Simeon?4 — He [will hold] that the reason for the addition of strong drink is to guide us in the interpretation of the same expression when used in connection with the Temple service, in the verse, Drink no wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee.5 Just as for the nazirite, only wine is forbidden but not other beverages, so in connection with the Temple service, only wine is forbidden [to the priests], but not other intoxicating beverages. This conflicts with the opinion of R. Judah, for it has been taught: R. Judah said that [a priest] who eats preserved figs from Keilah,6 or drinks honey or milk, and then enters the Temple, is guilty.7 Alternatively,8 R. Simeon rejects the Principle that a prohibition can come into operation when a prohibition [on a different count] is already present,9 as has been taught: R. Simeon says that a man who eats carrion10 on the Day of Atonement is not liable [to a penalty for breach of observance of the day].11
What do the Rabbis make of the verse, ['He shall eat] nothing that is made of the grapevine'?12 The Rabbis will tell you that this teaches that [the various kinds of food] forbidden to a nazirite can combine together.13 R. Simeon. on the other hand, does not require a rule about combination, for it has been taught: R. Simeon says that a mite [of forbidden food] is sufficient [to entail liability] to stripes; a quantity equivalent to an olive is required only where a sacrifice is [the appropriate penalty].
http://www.come-and-hear.com/nazir/
Nazir or Neziroth, as it is also sometimes known, is the fourth treatise of Seder Nashim, and deals with the laws regulating naziriteship. The assumption of nazirite vows, the different types of naziriteship, the observance and breach of the accompanying obligation to abstain from wine, shaving the hair, and contact with the dead, and the order of sacrifice on contact with the dead and on the completion of a nazirite's term, are all discussed. Little not narrowly relevant to these topics will be found in these pages, and the tractate contains but few haggadic passages.
The destruction of the Temple in 70 C.E. and the consequent cessation of the sacrificial system, precluded the nazirite vow from being properly terminated and so naziriteship was no longer undertaken; but the inclusion of the treatise in the order Nashim instead of Kodashim, whether as an antidote to Gittin and Sotah (v. fol. 2a) or because of its resemblance to Nedarim (v. Sotah 2a) led to its provision with an adequate Gemara in both the Babylonian and the Jerusalem Talmud. In Geonic times, however, in common with Nedarim and Kodashim in general, the treatise was neglected, so that its text lacks the finish and excellent state of preservation of other talmudic treatises, whilst the absence of a commentary by Rashi, embodying traditional interpretations, increases the difficulties of the student.
NAZIRITE, person who vows for a specific period to abstain from partaking of grapes or any of its products whether intoxicating or not, cutting his hair, and touching a corpse (6:3–9). Such a person is called a Nazirite (Heb. nazir, נָזִיר) from the root nzr (נזר), meaning to separate or dedicate oneself (e.g., nifal, Lev. 22:2; hifil, Lev. 15:31; Num. 6:2, 5, 12). The subject is dealt with in the Priestly Code (Num. 6:1–21) and the purpose of the law is to prescribe the proper ritual if the Nazirite period is aborted by corpse contamination (Num. 6:9–12) or if it is successfully completed (6:13–21).
In the person of the Nazirite, the layman is given a status resembling that of the priest, as he now is "holy to the Lord" (Lev. 21:6; Num. 6:8; cf. Philo, I LA, 249). Actually, in his taboos, he approximates more the higher sanctity of the high priest in that (1) He may not contaminate himself with the dead of his immediate family (Lev. 21:11; Num. 6:7; cf. the ordinary priest, Lev. 21:1–4); (2) For him, as for the high priest, the head is the focus of sanctity (Ex. 29:7; Num. 6:11b. Note the same motive clauses, Lev. 21:12b; Num. 6:7b and compare the dedication of the ordinary priest, Ex. 29:21); (3) He abstains from intoxicants during his term (Num. 6:4)–a more stringent requirement than that of the high priest, whose abstinence, like that of his fellow priests, is limited to the time he is in the Sanctuary (Lev. 10:9).
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/nazirite
Abstinence, Celibacy and Nazirites
In Hebrew the term Nazirite is ‘Nazir’ (נְזִיר). We will talk more later about the specifics of the Nazirite Vow, but the first use of the term ‘Nazir’ occurs in Genesis 49, where we are told that our forefather Joseph was ‘Nazir’ (נְזִיר), or ‘separated’ from his brothers in order to fulfill YHWH’s divine purpose.
What this passage shows us is that one can become ‘Nazir’ (‘separated’) even unintentionally. By the very act of being sent into Egypt, Joseph had become a ‘Nazir’ (separated).
http://www.nazareneisrael.org/books/covenant-relationships/abstinence-celibacy-and-nazirites/
(Mishle (Proverbs) 18:1
1 A man who isolates himself seeks his own desire; he rages against all wise judgment.)
//not really a true explenation about grape:
http://etzion.org.il/en/nazirite
According to Jewish tradition there are 613 commandments. The Torah enjoins us: "Be careful to observe everything that I prescribe to you. Do not add to it and do not subtract from it" (Deuteronomy 13:1). The 613 commandments oblige the people of Israel and are the essence of the covenant between God and Israel. The commandments are generally automatically binding. However, there are a few commandments which are by definition voluntary. Among these is the commandment of the 'nazirite.'
The Torah lists the prohibitions resulting from a nazirite vow. The restrictions may be divided into three categories:
1) Abstinence from grapes and grape products (verses 3,4)
2) Prohibition of cutting the hair of the head (v. 5)
3) Prohibition of becoming ritually impure through contact with a corpse (v. 6,7)
Just want to say, that on http://etzion.org.il/en/nazirite ,
part about grapes, is aria where You need to think a lot more.
Nazarene Judaism is the ancient and original
Jewish sect of the original
Jewish followers of Yeshua as the Jewish Messiah of Judaism.
We believe Yeshua came to be the Messiah of Judaism,
not to create a new non-Jewish religion.
http://nazarenejudaism.com/
http://www.come-and-hear.com/nazir/nazir_4.html
Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Nazir
Folio 4a
But surely here he is bound by the oath taken on Mount Sinai?1 — We must therefore suppose the following dictum of Raba to be indicated, [Viz.:] — [If a man says,] 'I swear to drink [wine]' and later says, 'I wish to be a nazirite,' the nazirite vow operates despite the oath.2
And do not the Rabbis also require [this verse] to prohibit wine, the drinking of which is a ritual obligation as well as wine the drinking of which is optional? — If this were its [sole] purpose, only wine need have been mentioned in the verse! [What is the purport of the addition] of 'strong drink'! It is to enable us to infer both things.3 And R. Simeon?4 — He [will hold] that the reason for the addition of strong drink is to guide us in the interpretation of the same expression when used in connection with the Temple service, in the verse, Drink no wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee.5 Just as for the nazirite, only wine is forbidden but not other beverages, so in connection with the Temple service, only wine is forbidden [to the priests], but not other intoxicating beverages. This conflicts with the opinion of R. Judah, for it has been taught: R. Judah said that [a priest] who eats preserved figs from Keilah,6 or drinks honey or milk, and then enters the Temple, is guilty.7 Alternatively,8 R. Simeon rejects the Principle that a prohibition can come into operation when a prohibition [on a different count] is already present,9 as has been taught: R. Simeon says that a man who eats carrion10 on the Day of Atonement is not liable [to a penalty for breach of observance of the day].11
What do the Rabbis make of the verse, ['He shall eat] nothing that is made of the grapevine'?12 The Rabbis will tell you that this teaches that [the various kinds of food] forbidden to a nazirite can combine together.13 R. Simeon. on the other hand, does not require a rule about combination, for it has been taught: R. Simeon says that a mite [of forbidden food] is sufficient [to entail liability] to stripes; a quantity equivalent to an olive is required only where a sacrifice is [the appropriate penalty].
http://www.come-and-hear.com/nazir/
Nazir or Neziroth, as it is also sometimes known, is the fourth treatise of Seder Nashim, and deals with the laws regulating naziriteship. The assumption of nazirite vows, the different types of naziriteship, the observance and breach of the accompanying obligation to abstain from wine, shaving the hair, and contact with the dead, and the order of sacrifice on contact with the dead and on the completion of a nazirite's term, are all discussed. Little not narrowly relevant to these topics will be found in these pages, and the tractate contains but few haggadic passages.
The destruction of the Temple in 70 C.E. and the consequent cessation of the sacrificial system, precluded the nazirite vow from being properly terminated and so naziriteship was no longer undertaken; but the inclusion of the treatise in the order Nashim instead of Kodashim, whether as an antidote to Gittin and Sotah (v. fol. 2a) or because of its resemblance to Nedarim (v. Sotah 2a) led to its provision with an adequate Gemara in both the Babylonian and the Jerusalem Talmud. In Geonic times, however, in common with Nedarim and Kodashim in general, the treatise was neglected, so that its text lacks the finish and excellent state of preservation of other talmudic treatises, whilst the absence of a commentary by Rashi, embodying traditional interpretations, increases the difficulties of the student.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/nazirite
7 April 2017 04:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"We have found this man to be a troublemaker, stirring up riots among the Jews all over the world. He is a ringleader of the Nazarene sect
http://biblehub.com/acts/24-5.htm
WHAT IS NAZARENE (NETZARIM) JUDAISM?
In these last days of constant and important changes in people's understanding of our relationship to the Almighty, there will naturally be some confusion about a movement such as "Nazarene Judaism."
The most important part of this understanding is that our focus is to reestablish the faith, practice, and lifestyle of the original Netzarim. So who were they?
Well, as we know, the public ministry of Yahshua of Natzaret was about three years long. He went around teaching about the Kingdom of Elohim, and He acquired many followers who responded to his teachings. His followers included members of the P'rushim (Pharisees) and the Essenes - a group living in the wilderness of which Yokhanan the Immerser probably belonged. These followers of Yahshua gave rise to a new branch of Judaism -- the Sect of the Netzarim.
http://www.yashanet.com/library/nazarene_judaism.html
It would probably come as a shock to most Christians today that the original followers of Jesus were never called Christians. They were called Nazarenes. [1] The gospels showed that the Galilean was normally referred to as Jesus the Nazarene (Mark 1:24; John 18:5). [2] Most modern New Testament translations render this as "Jesus of Nazareth" but the former represents the more common form of words in the original Greek version. [3]
It was in Antioch that the words "Christian" was first used [4], to describe the followers of Paul! (Acts 11:25)
http://www.rejectionofpascalswager.net/nazarenes.html
The name Nazarene (not to be confused with Nazirite) occurs in a few forms in the New Testament, but it's not clear how the distinctions work, and they are probably just liberal variations of the same, namely to describe someone from Nazareth.
The first person to be on record as being a Nazarene is of course Jesus the Nazarene (Ναζαρηνος; Mark 1:24, Luke 4:34; Ναζωραιος; Matthew 26:71, John 19:19, Acts 22:8), but it's a neglected mystery why Jesus wouldn't be called Jesus the Bethlehemite (true to prophecy, and stating that Jesus was the awaited "son of David") or even Jesus the Capernaumite (where He lived when He rose to fame).
http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Nazarene.html
Wesleyan beliefs/articles of faith http://www.wesleyan.org/beliefs
http://www.headhearthand.com
Church of the Nazarene articles of faith
http://www.nazarene.org/ministries/administration/visitorcenter/articles/display.aspx
What are those that enter into The Yahushaic Covenant called? Are they known as Christians or Nazarenes? Christians are so named after their god Christos. Nazarenes are so named because they are followers of The Branch.
For hundreds of years before Yahusha came as The Messiah, followers of pagan “Christs” were known as “Christians”. They were pagan followers of the various “Christs” such as Christos Mithra. The Roman Emperor who created Christianity was a convert of Mithraism. He was a “Christian”.
Christian is not the name the Bible uses of those who follow Yahusha. They were known as Notsris. Those who followed John the Baptist became known as Notsris or “Nazarenes” as John was sent to prepare the way for The Branch (Notsri). John was actively preparing Israel for the coming Messiah which he knew was Yahusha his cousin.
http://www.sabbathcovenant.com/newdoctrine/christian_nazarene.htm
In some ways, this is going to be a very specialized website which will appeal to a very limited number of believers in Jesus Christ. First off, many believers are going to disagree with the doctrinal views presented in this website, as most believers are legalists and, in some way or another, like to add works to their salvation. Some do this more subtly, along the lines of Catholicism and Pentecostalism (two off-shoots of Christianity which are strikingly similar in nature)
TheDoctrineoftheNazirite
http://kukis.org/Doctrines/Nazirite.pdf
One chosen, or set apart; one consecrated to God by a vow (Num. 6:2-21). Samson was a Nazirite (Judg. 13:5, 24; 16:17; see Amos 2:11, 12, also).
Meta. A Nazirite signifies what the meaning of the word (consecrated by vow, separated) implies: the thoughts consecrated to Truth, to life, holy, sanctified, free from all worldliness and from belief in error, destruction, death. (One of the points relating to a Nazirite that is given more explicit directions than others is that he shall not come near a dead body, under any consideration. See Numbers 6:6-12. Even so, thoughts purified from error and given wholly to Truth are entirely separated from any belief or teaching relating to materiality and death, are separate from all destructive tendencies; they are fully centered in life, and in that which is uplifting and constructive.)
http://www.truthunity.net/mbd/nazirite
The word that the Turtle(1) uses in referring to Paul’s religious association, while Paul is standing trial before Felix, is commonly translated as ‘sect.’ It’s written that Paul was ‘a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes’ (Acts 24:5).
The word ‘sect’ in Greek is hay-ray-see-ohs, and is used six times in Acts and always refers to a sect (of the Sadducees, 5:17; of the Pharisees who believe in Yeshua, 15:5; our verse in 24:5; 24:14 where Paul calls it such; 26:5 where Paul again uses it, and 28:22 where the Jews in Rome ask Paul about ‘this sect’).
In half of the places, 5:17; 15:5; and 26:5, the word can and does stand on it’s own merit, as ‘sect’. Wesley Perschbacher tells us that the Greek word means, ‘strictly a choice or option; hence, a sect’ or a ‘faction’.(2) Timothy Friberg also says that and adds,
‘a separatist group characterized by loyalty to a certain school of thought and practice’, a ‘sect, party, school’, and lists Acts 5:17 as such.(3)
But for the three places of Acts 24:5, 24:14 and 28:22, we think it best translated as a ‘heretical sect’, and not just ‘a sect.’ Why? Because in these three places, ‘the sect of the Nazarenes’ is being disparaged and should read, the ‘heretical sect’ of the Nazarenes. In Acts 24:5, the Turtle is not wanting to lend any validity or credence to the Nazarenes, and so he wouldn’t imply that they were an entity that was valid.
http://seedofabraham.net/nazarene.htm
The word Nazirene means the "keeper of The Way".
The Genuine Disciple of Yeshua/Jesus is always a Nazirene
A Consecrated and Set-Aside man/woman who lives by the Vow to the Lord!
Only a Nazirene can learn directly from the Lord!
Only a Nazirene receives all the Spiritual Blessings of the Promise!
All Seekers Are To Be Nazirites
"I brought you up out of Egypt, and I led you forty years in the desert to give you the land of the Amorites.
I also raised up prophets from among your sons and Nazirites from among your young men. Is this not true, people of Israel? declares the LORD."
(Amos 2:10-11 NIV)
http://messianic.nazirene.org/nazir.htm
http://biblehub.com/acts/24-5.htm
WHAT IS NAZARENE (NETZARIM) JUDAISM?
In these last days of constant and important changes in people's understanding of our relationship to the Almighty, there will naturally be some confusion about a movement such as "Nazarene Judaism."
The most important part of this understanding is that our focus is to reestablish the faith, practice, and lifestyle of the original Netzarim. So who were they?
Well, as we know, the public ministry of Yahshua of Natzaret was about three years long. He went around teaching about the Kingdom of Elohim, and He acquired many followers who responded to his teachings. His followers included members of the P'rushim (Pharisees) and the Essenes - a group living in the wilderness of which Yokhanan the Immerser probably belonged. These followers of Yahshua gave rise to a new branch of Judaism -- the Sect of the Netzarim.
http://www.yashanet.com/library/nazarene_judaism.html
It would probably come as a shock to most Christians today that the original followers of Jesus were never called Christians. They were called Nazarenes. [1] The gospels showed that the Galilean was normally referred to as Jesus the Nazarene (Mark 1:24; John 18:5). [2] Most modern New Testament translations render this as "Jesus of Nazareth" but the former represents the more common form of words in the original Greek version. [3]
It was in Antioch that the words "Christian" was first used [4], to describe the followers of Paul! (Acts 11:25)
http://www.rejectionofpascalswager.net/nazarenes.html
The name Nazarene (not to be confused with Nazirite) occurs in a few forms in the New Testament, but it's not clear how the distinctions work, and they are probably just liberal variations of the same, namely to describe someone from Nazareth.
The first person to be on record as being a Nazarene is of course Jesus the Nazarene (Ναζαρηνος; Mark 1:24, Luke 4:34; Ναζωραιος; Matthew 26:71, John 19:19, Acts 22:8), but it's a neglected mystery why Jesus wouldn't be called Jesus the Bethlehemite (true to prophecy, and stating that Jesus was the awaited "son of David") or even Jesus the Capernaumite (where He lived when He rose to fame).
http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Nazarene.html
Wesleyan beliefs/articles of faith http://www.wesleyan.org/beliefs
http://www.headhearthand.com
Church of the Nazarene articles of faith
http://www.nazarene.org/ministries/administration/visitorcenter/articles/display.aspx
What are those that enter into The Yahushaic Covenant called? Are they known as Christians or Nazarenes? Christians are so named after their god Christos. Nazarenes are so named because they are followers of The Branch.
For hundreds of years before Yahusha came as The Messiah, followers of pagan “Christs” were known as “Christians”. They were pagan followers of the various “Christs” such as Christos Mithra. The Roman Emperor who created Christianity was a convert of Mithraism. He was a “Christian”.
Christian is not the name the Bible uses of those who follow Yahusha. They were known as Notsris. Those who followed John the Baptist became known as Notsris or “Nazarenes” as John was sent to prepare the way for The Branch (Notsri). John was actively preparing Israel for the coming Messiah which he knew was Yahusha his cousin.
http://www.sabbathcovenant.com/newdoctrine/christian_nazarene.htm
In some ways, this is going to be a very specialized website which will appeal to a very limited number of believers in Jesus Christ. First off, many believers are going to disagree with the doctrinal views presented in this website, as most believers are legalists and, in some way or another, like to add works to their salvation. Some do this more subtly, along the lines of Catholicism and Pentecostalism (two off-shoots of Christianity which are strikingly similar in nature)
TheDoctrineoftheNazirite
http://kukis.org/Doctrines/Nazirite.pdf
One chosen, or set apart; one consecrated to God by a vow (Num. 6:2-21). Samson was a Nazirite (Judg. 13:5, 24; 16:17; see Amos 2:11, 12, also).
Meta. A Nazirite signifies what the meaning of the word (consecrated by vow, separated) implies: the thoughts consecrated to Truth, to life, holy, sanctified, free from all worldliness and from belief in error, destruction, death. (One of the points relating to a Nazirite that is given more explicit directions than others is that he shall not come near a dead body, under any consideration. See Numbers 6:6-12. Even so, thoughts purified from error and given wholly to Truth are entirely separated from any belief or teaching relating to materiality and death, are separate from all destructive tendencies; they are fully centered in life, and in that which is uplifting and constructive.)
http://www.truthunity.net/mbd/nazirite
The word that the Turtle(1) uses in referring to Paul’s religious association, while Paul is standing trial before Felix, is commonly translated as ‘sect.’ It’s written that Paul was ‘a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes’ (Acts 24:5).
The word ‘sect’ in Greek is hay-ray-see-ohs, and is used six times in Acts and always refers to a sect (of the Sadducees, 5:17; of the Pharisees who believe in Yeshua, 15:5; our verse in 24:5; 24:14 where Paul calls it such; 26:5 where Paul again uses it, and 28:22 where the Jews in Rome ask Paul about ‘this sect’).
In half of the places, 5:17; 15:5; and 26:5, the word can and does stand on it’s own merit, as ‘sect’. Wesley Perschbacher tells us that the Greek word means, ‘strictly a choice or option; hence, a sect’ or a ‘faction’.(2) Timothy Friberg also says that and adds,
‘a separatist group characterized by loyalty to a certain school of thought and practice’, a ‘sect, party, school’, and lists Acts 5:17 as such.(3)
But for the three places of Acts 24:5, 24:14 and 28:22, we think it best translated as a ‘heretical sect’, and not just ‘a sect.’ Why? Because in these three places, ‘the sect of the Nazarenes’ is being disparaged and should read, the ‘heretical sect’ of the Nazarenes. In Acts 24:5, the Turtle is not wanting to lend any validity or credence to the Nazarenes, and so he wouldn’t imply that they were an entity that was valid.
http://seedofabraham.net/nazarene.htm
The word Nazirene means the "keeper of The Way".
The Genuine Disciple of Yeshua/Jesus is always a Nazirene
A Consecrated and Set-Aside man/woman who lives by the Vow to the Lord!
Only a Nazirene can learn directly from the Lord!
Only a Nazirene receives all the Spiritual Blessings of the Promise!
All Seekers Are To Be Nazirites
"I brought you up out of Egypt, and I led you forty years in the desert to give you the land of the Amorites.
I also raised up prophets from among your sons and Nazirites from among your young men. Is this not true, people of Israel? declares the LORD."
(Amos 2:10-11 NIV)
http://messianic.nazirene.org/nazir.htm
http://biblehub.com/acts/24-5.htm
7 April 2017 04:07
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Tuisk's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
pseudomure, suht kopikas7 April 2017 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to Ephraim Sobrino's comment.
besides this there is many other technology's and information packed in to there (multi layered way, interconnected) for many reasons from making inescapable net for these who know to saving trees.
And hey, i am grown in a country where bible books are not called "numbers" but Moses Book 1, Moses Book 2, ...
so is kind of known yes, what they are and from where, including the meaning of the letters for who likes
: http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Aleph-Bet/Yod/yod.html
and for number people, there are links as well, you careto share some ?
For many seems troubling even to see, why they mention so important-things like who eat what.
My favorites are Proverbs 8, ( Markus part also good for explaining whole of today's belief core) what is Yours BESIDES first 5?
And hey, i am grown in a country where bible books are not called "numbers" but Moses Book 1, Moses Book 2, ...
so is kind of known yes, what they are and from where, including the meaning of the letters for who likes
: http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Aleph-Bet/Yod/yod.html
and for number people, there are links as well, you careto share some ?
For many seems troubling even to see, why they mention so important-things like who eat what.
My favorites are Proverbs 8, ( Markus part also good for explaining whole of today's belief core) what is Yours BESIDES first 5?
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Aleph-Bet/Yod/yod.html
6 April 2017 22:56
Margus Meigo replied to Ephraim Sobrino's comment.
Ephraim Fiorente Sobrino my point still reminds,
and just for Your information,
bible is technology that interacts by heart in belief, so the data that is in this place what You read will be unpacked and revealed in You according Your personal needs (your location in time as it is seen in multi-linear sense and space around you can literally be changed as it is with Love).
This is why nearly does not matter what translation You read but if You believe,
if you read, really understand my computer-internet parallel, then should be easy to realize that it is little need to know how computer is made compared to what it is.
and just for Your information,
bible is technology that interacts by heart in belief, so the data that is in this place what You read will be unpacked and revealed in You according Your personal needs (your location in time as it is seen in multi-linear sense and space around you can literally be changed as it is with Love).
This is why nearly does not matter what translation You read but if You believe,
if you read, really understand my computer-internet parallel, then should be easy to realize that it is little need to know how computer is made compared to what it is.
6 April 2017 22:51
Margus Meigo replied to Ephraim Sobrino's comment.
glad You asked, it was important enough mistake to post it on my wall, so take it as compliment
6 April 2017 22:05
Margus Meigo replied to Ephraim Sobrino's comment.
For sure,
as it is not just true, it is also not true as well,
and if we choose whatever side that is half we got nothing.
Better to have simple understanding, and belief that handles all then deep knowledge and knowing that is missing (disregarding) a part
as it is not just true, it is also not true as well,
and if we choose whatever side that is half we got nothing.
Better to have simple understanding, and belief that handles all then deep knowledge and knowing that is missing (disregarding) a part
6 April 2017 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on Ephraim Sobrino's post.
If all start to think that dark can not fake fruits for sallow lookers.. then we are doomed indeed
6 April 2017 21:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
probably not most populist take on the "issue"
6 April 2017 21:14
Margus Meigo commented on Ephraim Sobrino's post.
well i just think it is a bit mental to not trust your country and not give Your phone or computer data for them to look, normal human should be proud and happy if anyone in gov level want to look their tings and use it to make our home more secure.
if they take your things and delete, change something in it or not giving it back, broke it etc, then is another serious issue yes.
Just clone your data, not really an issue at all, pseudo issue.
Only thing humans have to take care that they got proper gov in office.
Any moment anyone can steal our phone and data and we not make it national emergency but when Your country, want to me sure that You in basic are in safe list, and if something bad happened near You or someone hacker used Your phone data to make crime and they can uncover it by making sure, you was not involved in trouble, well.. what is so big issue. Issue is when some one say "i will not come back if you look my phone" ... this human is really suspicious indeed. Or maybe just a bit crazy.
It is Your Gov you talking about, not some random punk on streets.
if they take your things and delete, change something in it or not giving it back, broke it etc, then is another serious issue yes.
Just clone your data, not really an issue at all, pseudo issue.
Only thing humans have to take care that they got proper gov in office.
Any moment anyone can steal our phone and data and we not make it national emergency but when Your country, want to me sure that You in basic are in safe list, and if something bad happened near You or someone hacker used Your phone data to make crime and they can uncover it by making sure, you was not involved in trouble, well.. what is so big issue. Issue is when some one say "i will not come back if you look my phone" ... this human is really suspicious indeed. Or maybe just a bit crazy.
It is Your Gov you talking about, not some random punk on streets.
6 April 2017 21:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
for one to know for What and How to use internet more better, correctly, does not need to understand binary or how to make microprocessors even if that was vital part of making it, but it was just a tools, tech, not the main thing,
in fact one does not need to ever use computer At all to for knowing what it is and for what it should be used
in fact one does not need to ever use computer At all to for knowing what it is and for what it should be used
6 April 2017 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on Leovani Solomon Payseur's post.
some truth does not make selfish imagination true
>It Was meant to be known, it IS meant to be read Also literally (as this is first basic of understanding including language translation's like greek, estonian, latin, english .. )
(but for people who do not live in literal truths world, for them is hard to accept, and for their bosses is more easy to separate people from understanding and keep their imaginary controller position,, interpreting the "Mystical". Nothing fully mystical about it, it is practical. Unless You live in world where time-travel and soul-exchange is still considered mystical instead of elementary. If that is still not elementary for You then one is not even on edge of basic believer. )
>It Was meant to be known, it IS meant to be read Also literally (as this is first basic of understanding including language translation's like greek, estonian, latin, english .. )
(but for people who do not live in literal truths world, for them is hard to accept, and for their bosses is more easy to separate people from understanding and keep their imaginary controller position,, interpreting the "Mystical". Nothing fully mystical about it, it is practical. Unless You live in world where time-travel and soul-exchange is still considered mystical instead of elementary. If that is still not elementary for You then one is not even on edge of basic believer. )
6 April 2017 20:42
Margus Meigo commented on Leovani Solomon Payseur's post.
yea, but just in another level, we do support it, not the level that is downplayed form this... another low level
a lot of levels here :D
a lot of levels here :D
6 April 2017 19:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mäletan võrdlesin võimalusi taga mis on maksumuse ja kiiruse vahe kui Jaapanisse raha kantida suuremas ja väiksemas koguses võrreldes bitcoiniga,
ja soovitasin bitcoini tehnoloogia hybriidi teha, mõelda sellele, kui soovivad püsima jääda, selle asemel, et asjast mõelda hakkas bitcoini maha tegema, kuigi neil endal veel polnud isegi Jaapani linki ehitatud ja sinna meeletu kallis oleks olnud raha saata.
Samas sellised asju http://www.xapo.com/ võga tõsiste inimestega seljataga, tekib nagu seeni.
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See kõigest üks selle teemaline project:
"Prior to Xapo, Casares founded and later sold online brokerage firm Patagon to Banco Santander for $750 million. !!!
He also launched the first Internet provider in his home country of Argentina in 1994 "
"The Xapo Vault consists of physical servers located around the globe that the company says is protected by biometric scanner access, 24-7 video surveillance, and armed guards. The servers are in undisclosed locations underground, according to Casares. ] Casares claims that Xapo “is the first bitcoin vault fully protected and insured against hacking and bankruptcy.”[ The Xapo Vault is insured by Meridian Insurance.
In August 2014, Xapo announced it had raised $20 million to further enhance its security measures.
ja soovitasin bitcoini tehnoloogia hybriidi teha, mõelda sellele, kui soovivad püsima jääda, selle asemel, et asjast mõelda hakkas bitcoini maha tegema, kuigi neil endal veel polnud isegi Jaapani linki ehitatud ja sinna meeletu kallis oleks olnud raha saata.
Samas sellised asju http://www.xapo.com/ võga tõsiste inimestega seljataga, tekib nagu seeni.
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See kõigest üks selle teemaline project:
"Prior to Xapo, Casares founded and later sold online brokerage firm Patagon to Banco Santander for $750 million. !!!
He also launched the first Internet provider in his home country of Argentina in 1994 "
"The Xapo Vault consists of physical servers located around the globe that the company says is protected by biometric scanner access, 24-7 video surveillance, and armed guards. The servers are in undisclosed locations underground, according to Casares. ] Casares claims that Xapo “is the first bitcoin vault fully protected and insured against hacking and bankruptcy.”[ The Xapo Vault is insured by Meridian Insurance.
In August 2014, Xapo announced it had raised $20 million to further enhance its security measures.
http://www.xapo.com/
6 April 2017 15:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lihtsalt vaimne visioon oli suht nõrk selles osas juba ammu ning kui kohtasin mõne sise inimesega baaris (isegi nimi pole meeles) ja tema liberaalset pealiskaudsust ja ülbust, ebakindlust nägin, siis sai päris selgeks, et sisekontroll inimeste südametunnistuse ja mõistuse osas puudub, seega sellest midagi tulla ei saa, sest on teada kui lihtne ja mis moodi neid inimesi on ümber sõrme keerata ja on teada kui lihtsasti nad oma mõtetega karile jooksevad.
Muidugi enamus noored väga lahedad ja optimistlikud, kes alatöölised olid ja kes asja elus hoiavad, lihtsalt minig .. kui selle tegelase nime vaid mäletaks, aga ennast esindas küll nagu tema oleks ise osa transferwirest.
igatahes on teada, hoides vale ideoloogiaga inimesi siseringis saab olla kaks tulemust: asi võetakse üle konkurentide poolt, või lagundatakse, kasutatakse oma toote turule sisse murdmiseks, kilbina, laevana, et kui juhtme tagant tirivad siis valmis oma toodetega ootama, asendust pakkuma.
Firma vaimuse kanaldus lihtsalt, kuigi tühja, arvtavasti siis ikkagi
Muidugi enamus noored väga lahedad ja optimistlikud, kes alatöölised olid ja kes asja elus hoiavad, lihtsalt minig .. kui selle tegelase nime vaid mäletaks, aga ennast esindas küll nagu tema oleks ise osa transferwirest.
igatahes on teada, hoides vale ideoloogiaga inimesi siseringis saab olla kaks tulemust: asi võetakse üle konkurentide poolt, või lagundatakse, kasutatakse oma toote turule sisse murdmiseks, kilbina, laevana, et kui juhtme tagant tirivad siis valmis oma toodetega ootama, asendust pakkuma.
Firma vaimuse kanaldus lihtsalt, kuigi tühja, arvtavasti siis ikkagi
6 April 2017 15:20
Margus Meigo commented on Asse Sauga's post.
üldse kahju, et selline asi mis oli teada, et selliselt toimima ei hakka ega ei saa hakata, nii sisemise kultuuri pärast kui ka inimeste arusaamise puudumise tõttu mis rahaturgudel tegelikult toimub ja kellel lubakse ja kuidas.
Selliste edulugude ülevõtmine vastasjõudude poolt käib juba enne, kui suureks saadakse, kuid kui terve kontor liberaalsetes mõtetes pizzat pugib nii, et loga taga oma tööruumides igapäevaselt, siis ei saagi mõtteid konservatiivsena paigal hoida, selles osas mis oluline sellisel kõige ohtlikumal turul, peale sõja ja narko turu.
Selliste edulugude ülevõtmine vastasjõudude poolt käib juba enne, kui suureks saadakse, kuid kui terve kontor liberaalsetes mõtetes pizzat pugib nii, et loga taga oma tööruumides igapäevaselt, siis ei saagi mõtteid konservatiivsena paigal hoida, selles osas mis oluline sellisel kõige ohtlikumal turul, peale sõja ja narko turu.
6 April 2017 15:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but yea generally i was surprised the tech had not evolved as much i hoped, I buy for 75 or wa it 90 euros, 5+ years ago, 2 TB drive ( http://diskcompare.com/item/2362-seagate-barracuda-lp-st32000542as/ ) external one... now this bare drive Alone, is 170 to 250 dollars..
okey maybe for some other reasons but..
looking for newegg prices, ebuy and amazon. really, only few drives in same price, not some revolution what would be expected with 5 YEARS in a computer world..
As talked in a forum here:
"2TB 3-platter, ~5400RPM "green" hard drives (some of these have dropped to $80 on sale"
"The ST2000DL003 is the new Seagate 2TB with 3 platters, and it's currently quite a bit more expensive--$120 at Newegg--than the others in the class;
the ST32000542AS 2TB is dirt cheap--currently on sale for $75 at Newegg--but it is the older model and has four platters"
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/most-efficient-full-disc-rip-workflow-for-1000-dvds.1076258/
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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148413 // 185 !!!
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https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST32000542AS-Bare/dp/B0028Y4CY6 135 dollars
// and these are JUST drives, with out external storage.
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http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_productid=73853829&rt=nc&_sop=15&isRefine=true&LH_ItemCondition=1000 (220, from 40 disscont + 40 shipping)
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okeyt maybe rare item prices i thought..
okey maybe for some other reasons but..
looking for newegg prices, ebuy and amazon. really, only few drives in same price, not some revolution what would be expected with 5 YEARS in a computer world..
As talked in a forum here:
"2TB 3-platter, ~5400RPM "green" hard drives (some of these have dropped to $80 on sale"
"The ST2000DL003 is the new Seagate 2TB with 3 platters, and it's currently quite a bit more expensive--$120 at Newegg--than the others in the class;
the ST32000542AS 2TB is dirt cheap--currently on sale for $75 at Newegg--but it is the older model and has four platters"
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/most-efficient-full-disc-rip-workflow-for-1000-dvds.1076258/
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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148413 // 185 !!!
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https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST32000542AS-Bare/dp/B0028Y4CY6 135 dollars
// and these are JUST drives, with out external storage.
--
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_productid=73853829&rt=nc&_sop=15&isRefine=true&LH_ItemCondition=1000 (220, from 40 disscont + 40 shipping)
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okeyt maybe rare item prices i thought..
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21MtuM0bGdL._SL160_.jpg
6 April 2017 07:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// and back from the future, would be funny to see how barbaric these techs wil look in 25 years:
Shingled Magnetic Recording (SMR)
Two-Dimensional Magnetic Recording (TDMR)
Heat-Assisted Magnetic Recording (HAMR)
3D NAND
Triple-Level-Cell (TLC) / MLC, multi-level cells
"The HGST 8TB drives are filled with Helium. According to the HGST literature, the helium-filled environment lets the disks spin more easily as helium offers less resistance versus air."
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hgst-8tb-drives-helium-makes-them-fly/
This is normal price actually:
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Archive-Internal-Hard-Drive/dp/B00TJUXCA2
Seagate Archive HDD 8TB SATA 6GBps 128MB Cache SATA Hard Drive (ST8000AS0002) / Price: $227
(as i buy )
Shingled Magnetic Recording (SMR)
Two-Dimensional Magnetic Recording (TDMR)
Heat-Assisted Magnetic Recording (HAMR)
3D NAND
Triple-Level-Cell (TLC) / MLC, multi-level cells
"The HGST 8TB drives are filled with Helium. According to the HGST literature, the helium-filled environment lets the disks spin more easily as helium offers less resistance versus air."
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hgst-8tb-drives-helium-makes-them-fly/
This is normal price actually:
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Archive-Internal-Hard-Drive/dp/B00TJUXCA2
Seagate Archive HDD 8TB SATA 6GBps 128MB Cache SATA Hard Drive (ST8000AS0002) / Price: $227
(as i buy )
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hgst-8tb-drives-helium-makes-them-fly/
6 April 2017 05:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
some a bit more on earthly tools from ibm:
"A Holmium atom was attached to a magnesium oxide surface, which stabilises its north and south poles and resists disturbance from nearby magnets. Bit values of 1 and 0 are defined by the magnetic pole orientation.
An electric current exchanges the atom's poles and is provided by the metal needle tip of a scanning tunnelling microscope, and this is how a bit value is written. "
// yea seems hackable
"
"How long do the atoms retain their bit values? In the paper's abstract the boffins write: "We demonstrate the reading and writing of individual Ho atoms on MgO, and show that they independently retain their magnetic information over many hours."
The boffins show that two magnetic atoms could be written and read independently when separated by one nanometer.
The high magnetic stability combined with electrical reading and writing shows that single-atom magnetic memory is indeed possible. The demonstration of magnetic bistability in single molecule magnets containing one rare earth atom illustrated the potential of single-atom spin centers in future storage media.
This means if a device using such storage tech could be built, it would be 10,000 times denser than today's disk drives and SSDs.
Dr Andreas Heinrich, from the Institute of Basic Science (IBS) in Korea and former IBM researcher, said: "It doesn't get any smaller than a single atom. This is the ultimate storage feat – one bit on one magnetic atom. We're excited about the potential for dramatically different storage that's more compact and robust than anything we've previously seen."
IBM had a quantum computer announcement earlier this week. Big Blue says that future scanning tunnelling microscope studies will investigate the potential of performing quantum information processing using individual magnetic atoms."
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/09/ibm_stores_1_bit_on_one_atom/
http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nnano.2017.18.html
"A Holmium atom was attached to a magnesium oxide surface, which stabilises its north and south poles and resists disturbance from nearby magnets. Bit values of 1 and 0 are defined by the magnetic pole orientation.
An electric current exchanges the atom's poles and is provided by the metal needle tip of a scanning tunnelling microscope, and this is how a bit value is written. "
// yea seems hackable
"
"How long do the atoms retain their bit values? In the paper's abstract the boffins write: "We demonstrate the reading and writing of individual Ho atoms on MgO, and show that they independently retain their magnetic information over many hours."
The boffins show that two magnetic atoms could be written and read independently when separated by one nanometer.
The high magnetic stability combined with electrical reading and writing shows that single-atom magnetic memory is indeed possible. The demonstration of magnetic bistability in single molecule magnets containing one rare earth atom illustrated the potential of single-atom spin centers in future storage media.
This means if a device using such storage tech could be built, it would be 10,000 times denser than today's disk drives and SSDs.
Dr Andreas Heinrich, from the Institute of Basic Science (IBS) in Korea and former IBM researcher, said: "It doesn't get any smaller than a single atom. This is the ultimate storage feat – one bit on one magnetic atom. We're excited about the potential for dramatically different storage that's more compact and robust than anything we've previously seen."
IBM had a quantum computer announcement earlier this week. Big Blue says that future scanning tunnelling microscope studies will investigate the potential of performing quantum information processing using individual magnetic atoms."
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/09/ibm_stores_1_bit_on_one_atom/
http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nnano.2017.18.html
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/09/ibm_stores_1_bit_on_one_atom/
6 April 2017 04:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
DNA
//for sure them will first try to make hybrid humans to see how they work if some Marxist books are encoded in to DNA and perhaps forced vaccination will show results.. // and to make things interesting more they will enter encryption and decryption tools in to same cell or as separate later to activate information // but for
more open data:
" Perhaps the strangest new storage technology of the future is DNA. Yes, the molecule that stores biological information could be used to store other kinds of data. Harvard researchers in 2012 were able to encode DNA with digital information, including a 53,400-word book in HTML, eleven JPEG images, and one JavaScript program. DNA offers incredible storage density, 2.2 petabytes per gram, which means that a DNA hard drive about the size of a teaspoon could fit all of the world’s data on it–every song ever composed, book ever written, video ever shared. Besides the space savings, DNA is ideal for long-term storage: While you’re lucky if your hard drive lasts four years and optical disks are susceptible to heat and humidity, lead Harvard researcher George Church says “You can drop DNA wherever you want, in the desert or your backyard, and it will be there 400,000 years later.”
DNA takes a long time to read and write to and, as you might imagine, the technology is still too expensive to be usable now. According to New Scientist, in one recent study the cost to encode 83 kilobytes was £1000 (about $1,500 US dollars). Still, scientists are encoding information into artificial DNA and adding it to bacteria. It’s like a sci-fi novel that’s currently being written and lived. DNA could be the ultimate eternal drive one day.
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/data-storage-technologies-of-the-future/
//once more, Marxist are not kidding around
//for sure them will first try to make hybrid humans to see how they work if some Marxist books are encoded in to DNA and perhaps forced vaccination will show results.. // and to make things interesting more they will enter encryption and decryption tools in to same cell or as separate later to activate information // but for
more open data:
" Perhaps the strangest new storage technology of the future is DNA. Yes, the molecule that stores biological information could be used to store other kinds of data. Harvard researchers in 2012 were able to encode DNA with digital information, including a 53,400-word book in HTML, eleven JPEG images, and one JavaScript program. DNA offers incredible storage density, 2.2 petabytes per gram, which means that a DNA hard drive about the size of a teaspoon could fit all of the world’s data on it–every song ever composed, book ever written, video ever shared. Besides the space savings, DNA is ideal for long-term storage: While you’re lucky if your hard drive lasts four years and optical disks are susceptible to heat and humidity, lead Harvard researcher George Church says “You can drop DNA wherever you want, in the desert or your backyard, and it will be there 400,000 years later.”
DNA takes a long time to read and write to and, as you might imagine, the technology is still too expensive to be usable now. According to New Scientist, in one recent study the cost to encode 83 kilobytes was £1000 (about $1,500 US dollars). Still, scientists are encoding information into artificial DNA and adding it to bacteria. It’s like a sci-fi novel that’s currently being written and lived. DNA could be the ultimate eternal drive one day.
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/data-storage-technologies-of-the-future/
//once more, Marxist are not kidding around
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/data-storage-technologies-of-the-future/
6 April 2017 04:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_computing
https://phys.org/news/2016-12-electron-photon-small-talk-big-impact-quantum.html
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/223671-heres-why-we-dont-have-light-based-computing-just-yet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_plasmon
"However, optoelectronic devices lose 30% of their energy converting electronic energy into photons and back; this conversion also slows the transmission of messages.
All-optical computers eliminate the need for optical-electrical-optical (OEO) conversions, thus lessening the need for electrical power. "
// well bad news for all who used to get all high up about electronic level hacking (alien level, but not jet iluminaTors light beings level info .. so naturally humans will grow out from cruder methods of tiny (peen) data ... allowing in return produce devices that will not reconvert the user so much )
https://phys.org/news/2016-12-electron-photon-small-talk-big-impact-quantum.html
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/223671-heres-why-we-dont-have-light-based-computing-just-yet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_plasmon
"However, optoelectronic devices lose 30% of their energy converting electronic energy into photons and back; this conversion also slows the transmission of messages.
All-optical computers eliminate the need for optical-electrical-optical (OEO) conversions, thus lessening the need for electrical power. "
// well bad news for all who used to get all high up about electronic level hacking (alien level, but not jet iluminaTors light beings level info .. so naturally humans will grow out from cruder methods of tiny (peen) data ... allowing in return produce devices that will not reconvert the user so much )
6 April 2017 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and from simple first promo video, with 3 videos on to proper more technical one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S--Kgseuy0Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S--Kgseuy0Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S--Kgseuy0Q
6 April 2017 04:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcmsby8jDKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcmsby8jDKE
6 April 2017 04:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Innovative practical videos as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3LgLA0cj50
//wonder why this video does not enable again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3LgLA0cj50
//wonder why this video does not enable again
6 April 2017 04:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 April 2017 04:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 April 2017 04:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
As there is many different kind of minds and brain workings, many different wersions of information searching, besides visual/graphical, informational linguistical, beautical beauty orientated, numerical, logical practical, symbolical spiritual...
they have managed to get good balance of all, and even integrated graphical menu in the beginning start:
1. images for understanding what is there
2. and simple good driver pretty URLs
of course menu with out clicking but same time menu that works with old people and is not to fast or tiny but still pretty and slicks
they have managed to get good balance of all, and even integrated graphical menu in the beginning start:
1. images for understanding what is there
2. and simple good driver pretty URLs
of course menu with out clicking but same time menu that works with old people and is not to fast or tiny but still pretty and slicks
6 April 2017 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
exit video enters back to a last page,
most light scripts used, fast, even in slow computers.
Really great work in technological and cultural, psychological sides, who made it
There is so much more things, that are Right on this page,
first time i like this Slides web-page model, in effective, practical and beauty, professional way
and this is from company who made yes perhaps one of the best hardcore Laserjet 1000 but at same time some driver packages that people deserved to get arrested for, who assigned this task, to use it and make them so.
Well, respect up for sure
most light scripts used, fast, even in slow computers.
Really great work in technological and cultural, psychological sides, who made it
There is so much more things, that are Right on this page,
first time i like this Slides web-page model, in effective, practical and beauty, professional way
and this is from company who made yes perhaps one of the best hardcore Laserjet 1000 but at same time some driver packages that people deserved to get arrested for, who assigned this task, to use it and make them so.
Well, respect up for sure
6 April 2017 03:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 April 2017 03:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
video is lively, short, and enough to get you loaded ,
easy simple one x for entering out, some related videos between your few favorite videos and something new between one corporate if interested,
(this might be accidental, from google, not sure they have tools regulated what rules related videos can be shown to make most memorable in human brain, easy to make this api with types of video bases, but there is not usual disturbing taking away videos related offer in here, )
easy simple one x for entering out, some related videos between your few favorite videos and something new between one corporate if interested,
(this might be accidental, from google, not sure they have tools regulated what rules related videos can be shown to make most memorable in human brain, easy to make this api with types of video bases, but there is not usual disturbing taking away videos related offer in here, )
6 April 2017 03:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 April 2017 03:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 April 2017 03:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
In the end final screen, of conservative links,
clean not rude separation,
1. investments and carjars are switched so it would make cross reference in mind and same time visually would not look appealing if two times it maces as it did with images before. re-inventing not making two times same good thing.
2. drivers are find-able actually also, pretty fast, even in here
3. the social media links that are near mandatory one way are placed in to the end corner, as they are also the ones that most take You away and is not Your brand, outlined the color for them.
Whole page first fast scrolling to pack this information takes 4 to 5 seconds,
and all info is find-able to all different ones, who need, no link is missing at first one can imagine, from phone numbers to drivers. complete, open, clean, no banners, or flash'y
clean not rude separation,
1. investments and carjars are switched so it would make cross reference in mind and same time visually would not look appealing if two times it maces as it did with images before. re-inventing not making two times same good thing.
2. drivers are find-able actually also, pretty fast, even in here
3. the social media links that are near mandatory one way are placed in to the end corner, as they are also the ones that most take You away and is not Your brand, outlined the color for them.
Whole page first fast scrolling to pack this information takes 4 to 5 seconds,
and all info is find-able to all different ones, who need, no link is missing at first one can imagine, from phone numbers to drivers. complete, open, clean, no banners, or flash'y
6 April 2017 03:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
from there just before the end, will be clear separation once more before conservative links,
touching all the human sides, of tech leaving good impression, fresh, to investors, info lookers and job seekers
1. in here you can see the menu starting from up places nicely to picture menus with same theme in one time,
2.and spreading up in next one, works also for mind, not sure how to explain it in language jet but it is not confusing, not disorientating but spreading (hard to make it so, with so different info's, that it would work smoothly for different minds )
touching all the human sides, of tech leaving good impression, fresh, to investors, info lookers and job seekers
1. in here you can see the menu starting from up places nicely to picture menus with same theme in one time,
2.and spreading up in next one, works also for mind, not sure how to explain it in language jet but it is not confusing, not disorientating but spreading (hard to make it so, with so different info's, that it would work smoothly for different minds )
6 April 2017 03:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
then scrolling more, comes show more in to where can always add more people, and same time is not crowded,
same time provides easy look for these who got interest and will not see the first five as only selected posters.
of-course these show all is on screen, light, not take you away, unless You really sue of your target location
1. nice light show all, opens another humans
2. this nice light menu is moving along, and entering in to right spot in the end of pages,
3. in here gets you scrolling more ,as some nice tech pic of nature and the name / image connection between 2 and 3 might be not planted, but also works
same time provides easy look for these who got interest and will not see the first five as only selected posters.
of-course these show all is on screen, light, not take you away, unless You really sue of your target location
1. nice light show all, opens another humans
2. this nice light menu is moving along, and entering in to right spot in the end of pages,
3. in here gets you scrolling more ,as some nice tech pic of nature and the name / image connection between 2 and 3 might be not planted, but also works
6 April 2017 03:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 April 2017 03:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 April 2017 03:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Scrolling back up will show you something that if would be forced as old time popup would be annoying, in here, looks clearly stoppable as this annoying EU cookie banner.
1.
2.
3.
As in a mind there was callback for the last screen half part about moving image, you will scroll down again, nicely,
also mask, for general youth recotnation but not occupy mask
1.
2.
3.
As in a mind there was callback for the last screen half part about moving image, you will scroll down again, nicely,
also mask, for general youth recotnation but not occupy mask
6 April 2017 03:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 April 2017 03:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 April 2017 03:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
6 April 2017 02:32
Margus Meigo commented on FunBox's photo.
Gert Klaaser sellege looma poe letitagant pea välja pista oleks ka hea :D
6 April 2017 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on FunBox's photo.
Marko Karin Marko Meigo Et look eriti meeldiv oleks!
6 April 2017 01:04
Margus Meigo commented on FunBox's photo.
Gert Klaaser Uut varustust!
6 April 2017 01:03
Margus Meigo commented on FunBox's photo.
Nii armas!
6 April 2017 01:03
Margus Meigo commented on FunBox's photo.
Gert Klaaser uut varustust :p
6 April 2017 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on FunBox's photo.
Allar Kaljundi naish
6 April 2017 01:01
Margus Meigo commented on FunBox's photo.
Hea, et peenise mõõt välja toodud, muidu võib jääda arusaamatuks, kas äkki jääb vajaka
6 April 2017 00:59
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
v siis pisavlt suur meile5 April 2017 22:09
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
aga meie maailm, siin on suurem seest veelgi :P5 April 2017 22:09
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
nagu näha see maailm sela yleval on tajooba suur5 April 2017 22:01
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
nu jah, jumal on ikka üks :D
ja nagu see päars töö, et avata ära kellel oli prsi jumala tõlgenudus ja kes kumamrdas kolle ja muid suur majandaid5 April 2017 22:00
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
"Jumalad" kui mitmuses, jumal on ainsuses alati5 April 2017 21:59
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's post.
but i also think we do not need to focus on privacy but on useful things we can do,
5 April 2017 09:52
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's post.
the guy in red seriously need some mushrooms, seems clueless and naive.
5 April 2017 09:50
Margus Meigo commented on Dmitry Groz's photo.
but looks nice, whatever place it is
5 April 2017 09:48
Margus Meigo commented on Dmitry Groz's photo.
u NY'rker u
5 April 2017 09:47
Margus Meigo commented on Hannes Toomsalu's post.
huvitavad arengud
5 April 2017 09:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just for add:
https://etd.ohiolink.edu/!etd.send_file?accession=ohiou1406818924&disposition=inline
https://etd.ohiolink.edu/!etd.send_file?accession=ohiou1406818924&disposition=inline
5 April 2017 04:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Can not top that from Roman Empire apologizer:
1992 New York magazine interview: "Women, you have to treat them like shit."
--
I guess that old story counts:
" Donald held back Ivana’s arms and began to pull out fistfuls of hair from her scalp, as if to mirror the pain he felt from his own operation. He tore off her clothes and unzipped his pants.
“Then he jams his penis inside her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified… It is a violent assault,”
// but you know,it might be just a story.. who dares to look, and how to look ,right.
--
// unfortunate that everyone talks about this New York magazine, but no links to this ... what is wrong with this reporters, accusing THIS level of dude, on something like that, and not bothering to print a copy of paper?? And make it Google friendly ?
--
Just got to add this one also, maybe he is honest guy :
" Donald Trump has previously denied the allegation. In the book, he denies having had the scalp reduction surgery.
“It’s obviously false,” Donald Trump said of the accusation in 1993, according to Newsday. “It’s incorrect and done by a guy without much talent… He is a guy that is an unattractive guy who is a vindictive and jealous person.”
Cohen acknowledged Monday that he has not read the entire deposition but said he had read the two relevant pages of it, including the rape accusation.
“It’s not the word that you’re trying to make it into,” Cohen told The Daily Beast, saying Ivana Trump was talking about how “she felt raped emotionally… She was not referring to it [as] a criminal matter, and not in its literal sense, though there’s many literal senses to the word.”
Cohen added that there is no such thing, legally, as a man raping his wife. “You cannot rape your spouse,” he said. “There’s very clear case law.”
// yea, like:
http://www.nytimes.com/1984/12/23/weekinreview/new-york-joins-17-states-that-deny-wives-are-property-rape-marriage-no-longer.html ... but the ones who need Law for that, are clearly behind a civilization in any meaningful way to be noted in future ... actually in future, for sure these lands are NOT measured as Civilized, clearly, considering what issues still was present
--
But yea, about the first part, would need something like that: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=19920214&id=BV1WAAAAIBAJ&sjid=QPADAAAAIBAJ&pg=2003,1825091&hl=en
1992 New York magazine interview: "Women, you have to treat them like shit."
--
I guess that old story counts:
" Donald held back Ivana’s arms and began to pull out fistfuls of hair from her scalp, as if to mirror the pain he felt from his own operation. He tore off her clothes and unzipped his pants.
“Then he jams his penis inside her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified… It is a violent assault,”
// but you know,it might be just a story.. who dares to look, and how to look ,right.
--
// unfortunate that everyone talks about this New York magazine, but no links to this ... what is wrong with this reporters, accusing THIS level of dude, on something like that, and not bothering to print a copy of paper?? And make it Google friendly ?
--
Just got to add this one also, maybe he is honest guy :
" Donald Trump has previously denied the allegation. In the book, he denies having had the scalp reduction surgery.
“It’s obviously false,” Donald Trump said of the accusation in 1993, according to Newsday. “It’s incorrect and done by a guy without much talent… He is a guy that is an unattractive guy who is a vindictive and jealous person.”
Cohen acknowledged Monday that he has not read the entire deposition but said he had read the two relevant pages of it, including the rape accusation.
“It’s not the word that you’re trying to make it into,” Cohen told The Daily Beast, saying Ivana Trump was talking about how “she felt raped emotionally… She was not referring to it [as] a criminal matter, and not in its literal sense, though there’s many literal senses to the word.”
Cohen added that there is no such thing, legally, as a man raping his wife. “You cannot rape your spouse,” he said. “There’s very clear case law.”
// yea, like:
http://www.nytimes.com/1984/12/23/weekinreview/new-york-joins-17-states-that-deny-wives-are-property-rape-marriage-no-longer.html ... but the ones who need Law for that, are clearly behind a civilization in any meaningful way to be noted in future ... actually in future, for sure these lands are NOT measured as Civilized, clearly, considering what issues still was present
--
But yea, about the first part, would need something like that: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=19920214&id=BV1WAAAAIBAJ&sjid=QPADAAAAIBAJ&pg=2003,1825091&hl=en
5 April 2017 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But he knows a lot, suspect-able a lot, wonder how:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-Mjy9ETtRY
one way to know more, would be to have Russian intel,
and as again, not telling, that this is anything but good thing, but.
(Campaign Rally, Fort Dodge IA, November 12, 2015)
--
Donald Trump: "All I can tell you is that it is a foolproof way of winning, and I'm not talking about what some people would say, but it is a foolproof way of winning the war with ISIS, and it will be absolutely, a hundred percent they'll at a minimum come to the table and actually they'll be defeated very quickly."
Greta Van Susteren, Fox News, May 27, 2015
and he is not joking around:
Donald Trump: "I know Russia well. I had a major event in Russia two or three years ago, Miss Universe contest, which was a big, big, incredible event. An incredible success."
Bret Baier, Fox News, May 5, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-Mjy9ETtRY
one way to know more, would be to have Russian intel,
and as again, not telling, that this is anything but good thing, but.
(Campaign Rally, Fort Dodge IA, November 12, 2015)
--
Donald Trump: "All I can tell you is that it is a foolproof way of winning, and I'm not talking about what some people would say, but it is a foolproof way of winning the war with ISIS, and it will be absolutely, a hundred percent they'll at a minimum come to the table and actually they'll be defeated very quickly."
Greta Van Susteren, Fox News, May 27, 2015
and he is not joking around:
Donald Trump: "I know Russia well. I had a major event in Russia two or three years ago, Miss Universe contest, which was a big, big, incredible event. An incredible success."
Bret Baier, Fox News, May 5, 2016
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/W-Mjy9ETtRY/hqdefault.jpg
5 April 2017 03:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Clinton PR was so terrible, that i just now discovered her website first time. I, as supporter, well i guess bit late, innit.
But yea, supporting for whole another spectrum of reasons
But yea, supporting for whole another spectrum of reasons
5 April 2017 03:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This is strong one:
Donald Trump: "When people call you "brilliant" it's always good, especially when the person heads up Russia."
Joe Scarborough: "Well, I mean, also is a person who kills journalists, political opponents and..."
Willie Geist: "Invades countries."
Joe Scarborough: "... and invades countries, obviously that would be a concern, would it not?"
Donald Trump: "He's running his country, and at least he's a leader, unlike what we have in this country."
Morning Joe, MSNBC, December 18, 2015
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/literallytrump/
"ISIS is making a tremendous amount of money because they have certain oil camps, certain areas of oil that they took away...They have some in Syria, some in Iraq. I would bomb the s--- out of 'em."
// okey what about looking in to company's who deal with "isis" oil" ? .. just you know.. before..
Donald Trump: "When people call you "brilliant" it's always good, especially when the person heads up Russia."
Joe Scarborough: "Well, I mean, also is a person who kills journalists, political opponents and..."
Willie Geist: "Invades countries."
Joe Scarborough: "... and invades countries, obviously that would be a concern, would it not?"
Donald Trump: "He's running his country, and at least he's a leader, unlike what we have in this country."
Morning Joe, MSNBC, December 18, 2015
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/literallytrump/
"ISIS is making a tremendous amount of money because they have certain oil camps, certain areas of oil that they took away...They have some in Syria, some in Iraq. I would bomb the s--- out of 'em."
// okey what about looking in to company's who deal with "isis" oil" ? .. just you know.. before..
https://a.hrc.onl/literallytrump/img/share-fb.png
5 April 2017 03:27
Margus Meigo commented on Leovani Solomon Payseur's post.
42 :)
5 April 2017 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on Romantiline Luulekava's post.
NU jah, kui ta on elavaks tõendiks, et parimad mehed sõjas kaovad, siis see tähendab, et ta ei ole parim mees,
Ta ju sõjast tagasi.
Kui ta just südant ei mõelnud ja siis on ikka, ringiga kaotuse poolel, ikkagi.
Kas salvestisi ka üritusest saab?
Ta ju sõjast tagasi.
Kui ta just südant ei mõelnud ja siis on ikka, ringiga kaotuse poolel, ikkagi.
Kas salvestisi ka üritusest saab?
5 April 2017 01:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
As i told, realty is much more insane then this, numbers.. and this can not be put in numbers... just putting it to finance numbers may speak one thing to some people, but it by far eliminates the most of real story..
5 April 2017 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The Investments of the USSR Occupying Power in the Baltic
Economies
– Myths and Reality
http://www.va.lv/sites/default/files/lv_psrs_norekini2016_final_eng_final.pdf
Economies
– Myths and Reality
http://www.va.lv/sites/default/files/lv_psrs_norekini2016_final_eng_final.pdf
5 April 2017 01:34
Margus Meigo replied to Dmitry Groz's comment.
oh ! : (
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I guess only thing we can say in here: good that this terrible act did not harm more as it possible would have, if real terrorists would have done more then needed news.
-- ..
So also who ever did it ... they in a way also , did not want to hurt as much as possible, as clearly, for dark minds, there would be way's to make impact 100 times more,
but if it is inside job, then 10 and 1000 has little value difference on loss vs needed emotional impact,
hard things to calculate, but we must be ready up to point when they go total insane if they do not get what they want,
there was news gossip that soviets have hold dirty and other nuclear arsenal around usa, and called to discover few of them in warning to usa, telling, how many they have more around the USA, and what they can do, if things will not go as needed.
Who knows, was really USA taken hostage, who knows.. sure things is, USA is way more softer then it can be, on these forces that from beginning of times, have seek the realistic throne in there.
FSB (Russia) would know, USA would newer dare to report that to their own people,that the failure is so great and all the effort is nothing as over 50 years imported things with drug cartels and others, have collected in to great package.. of indisputable surrendering tools.. and only demand was economical.. and forced friendship.. so keeping mouth shut in sake of saving millions of USA citizens and whole history image, and future global annihilation, would seem like good deal even if deal is "not to co operate with terrorists"
well, unless they got whole of You country on target.. not some jokers with few airplanes..
with no demands..
so yea this is one of the alternative history views on current situations, as these biological and other methods that will be kept to keep USA as much as possible to do what they are asked to, or more.. not , this what they are asked not to.
Stockpile, massive stockpile is for no joke.. for direct projects that started now over 100 years ago.. (not even the big ones before his..).
Perhaps is a bit late for western world to understand, they are thinking AS "Russia" asks, as they are under Soviet Education program, literally, they not even know, they learn ONE version of thinking, that is directed, mastered, run as Head by two head eagle, they think all the liberal and scientific enlightenment and much more based on Greek-Roman is like them.. failing to see it is part of concurring mechanism, the usage of forced one way thinking (inside where is many kinds accepted for some time).
All the wearing ties, shaving, cutting hair, force women to work, placing real God with nature and hsmanism to background or off the picture.. is Part of the same program...
But the ones who rule, they know other versions of thinking also in a bit not just the one they need people to be in to concur and control them,
Pilot500
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/4jkybw/during_cold_war_both_kgb_and_cia_had_high_ranking/
- .
I guess only thing we can say in here: good that this terrible act did not harm more as it possible would have, if real terrorists would have done more then needed news.
-- ..
So also who ever did it ... they in a way also , did not want to hurt as much as possible, as clearly, for dark minds, there would be way's to make impact 100 times more,
but if it is inside job, then 10 and 1000 has little value difference on loss vs needed emotional impact,
hard things to calculate, but we must be ready up to point when they go total insane if they do not get what they want,
there was news gossip that soviets have hold dirty and other nuclear arsenal around usa, and called to discover few of them in warning to usa, telling, how many they have more around the USA, and what they can do, if things will not go as needed.
Who knows, was really USA taken hostage, who knows.. sure things is, USA is way more softer then it can be, on these forces that from beginning of times, have seek the realistic throne in there.
FSB (Russia) would know, USA would newer dare to report that to their own people,that the failure is so great and all the effort is nothing as over 50 years imported things with drug cartels and others, have collected in to great package.. of indisputable surrendering tools.. and only demand was economical.. and forced friendship.. so keeping mouth shut in sake of saving millions of USA citizens and whole history image, and future global annihilation, would seem like good deal even if deal is "not to co operate with terrorists"
well, unless they got whole of You country on target.. not some jokers with few airplanes..
with no demands..
so yea this is one of the alternative history views on current situations, as these biological and other methods that will be kept to keep USA as much as possible to do what they are asked to, or more.. not , this what they are asked not to.
Stockpile, massive stockpile is for no joke.. for direct projects that started now over 100 years ago.. (not even the big ones before his..).
Perhaps is a bit late for western world to understand, they are thinking AS "Russia" asks, as they are under Soviet Education program, literally, they not even know, they learn ONE version of thinking, that is directed, mastered, run as Head by two head eagle, they think all the liberal and scientific enlightenment and much more based on Greek-Roman is like them.. failing to see it is part of concurring mechanism, the usage of forced one way thinking (inside where is many kinds accepted for some time).
All the wearing ties, shaving, cutting hair, force women to work, placing real God with nature and hsmanism to background or off the picture.. is Part of the same program...
But the ones who rule, they know other versions of thinking also in a bit not just the one they need people to be in to concur and control them,
Pilot500
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/4jkybw/during_cold_war_both_kgb_and_cia_had_high_ranking/
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5 April 2017 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(this YT video was again one that did not enable it self first times)
Good true comment :
" Stop Fake's work is very good. That's real fact checking. The EU Disinformation Review, on the other hand, is just counter-propaganda. It mixes lies with truths and half-truths, exactly like Russian disinformation. Well, not exactly. It's not as good as Russian disinformation, by a long stretch. The Russian product is entertaining, addictive, and devilishly targeted to push all the right buttons of its audience. The European product -- sorry, make that the Brussels fascist junta -- is lame, bureaucratic and box-ticking. Their pathetic efforts at denying the immigration problem are so Soviet as to be laughable. We, the People, want an end to mass immigration and islamisation of Europe. That's a fact. All polls support that. Deal with it, instead of pretending that the part of Russian disinfo that is true is not. Just in case you did not notice, Russian psy-ops are frighteningly effective, precisely because they are, in part, based on genuine facts. And because they exploit the legitimate anger of European's peoples whose will is constantly ignored by their leaders. Message to the Brussels Banderites (that's fun; there's no reason we can't have our two minutes of political insults, too) : study your enemy. Understand why he's successful. Moscow's fakes, and not so fakes, are immensely popular because they tell their Western audiences what they want to hear, and because they are also music to their domestic audience. You, on the other hand, are trying to conquer hearts and minds with a narrative which greatly antagonises your core European audience, and is the reason they hate you ; while your secondary, Russian audience, is bound to laugh at it and despise you for your feeble efforts. What could go wrong ? But then again, you're unlected bureaucrats with fat cat salaries and perks galore, and your constituents can't fire you, so why would you care ?
http://www.rferl.org/a/the-kremlins-moral-equivalency-game/28325517.html
Good true comment :
" Stop Fake's work is very good. That's real fact checking. The EU Disinformation Review, on the other hand, is just counter-propaganda. It mixes lies with truths and half-truths, exactly like Russian disinformation. Well, not exactly. It's not as good as Russian disinformation, by a long stretch. The Russian product is entertaining, addictive, and devilishly targeted to push all the right buttons of its audience. The European product -- sorry, make that the Brussels fascist junta -- is lame, bureaucratic and box-ticking. Their pathetic efforts at denying the immigration problem are so Soviet as to be laughable. We, the People, want an end to mass immigration and islamisation of Europe. That's a fact. All polls support that. Deal with it, instead of pretending that the part of Russian disinfo that is true is not. Just in case you did not notice, Russian psy-ops are frighteningly effective, precisely because they are, in part, based on genuine facts. And because they exploit the legitimate anger of European's peoples whose will is constantly ignored by their leaders. Message to the Brussels Banderites (that's fun; there's no reason we can't have our two minutes of political insults, too) : study your enemy. Understand why he's successful. Moscow's fakes, and not so fakes, are immensely popular because they tell their Western audiences what they want to hear, and because they are also music to their domestic audience. You, on the other hand, are trying to conquer hearts and minds with a narrative which greatly antagonises your core European audience, and is the reason they hate you ; while your secondary, Russian audience, is bound to laugh at it and despise you for your feeble efforts. What could go wrong ? But then again, you're unlected bureaucrats with fat cat salaries and perks galore, and your constituents can't fire you, so why would you care ?
http://www.rferl.org/a/the-kremlins-moral-equivalency-game/28325517.html
http://www.rferl.org/a/the-kremlins-moral-equivalency-game/28325517.html
5 April 2017 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But thinking of that..
https://politics.dreamwidth.org/?tag=issues:+politics/social:+crime
https://politics.dreamwidth.org/?tag=issues:+politics/social:+crime
https://politics.dreamwidth.org/?tag=issues%3A+politics%2Fsocial%3A+crime
4 April 2017 16:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
You know, this version right:
http://putinvzrivaetdoma.org/
// sure, some old this will come
// for sure, more cyber control will be bring:
"A Ukraine-based information technology specialist has registered a website with a provocative name putinvzrivaetdoma.org ['Putin Blows Up Houses,' a reference to the conspiracy theory behind 1999 appartment bombings in Russia [ru] and installed LOIC (Low Orbital Ion Cannon, a weapon of choice of the Anonymous hacker group), an open-source tool for crowdsourced DDoS. For several hours, United Russia's website was unaccessible. "
2011. On February 25, for the first time in the RuNet history, the website of the United Russia' party was attacked
Commercials attacks are a grim reality for many websites as well - they are being organized on a daily basis, and their owners are being extorted [ru]. According to the latest research [ru] by Russian cybersecurity company Group IB, 35 percent of DDoS attacks are conducted by Russian (or, to be more precise, russophone) hackers.
Versions behind the attack
In these conditions, anonymous and relatively cheap DDoS attacks are more efficient than legal prosecution or physical harrassment of bloggers. Combined with human bots that spin “hot” topics, this tactic helps authorities deny any evident fact of cyber censorship. Other evidence of the political origin of these attacks is the fact that before LiveJournal, an anti-corruption website rospil.info had been attacked by infamous Darkness/Optima botnet (the name of the network of infected computers). These and other details of the attack were published by the independent analysis [ru] at Kaspersky Lab, a cyber security company
https://globalvoices.org/2011/04/08/russia-distributed-denial-of-livejournal/
http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/infosecurity/68131/
http://www.securelist.com/ru/blog/40425/LiveJournal_pod_atakoy
And:
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/03/28/russia-2010-cyber-crime-market-research/
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/03/21/russia-human-bots-fight-opposition/
// Old historical reference
http://putinvzrivaetdoma.org/
// sure, some old this will come
// for sure, more cyber control will be bring:
"A Ukraine-based information technology specialist has registered a website with a provocative name putinvzrivaetdoma.org ['Putin Blows Up Houses,' a reference to the conspiracy theory behind 1999 appartment bombings in Russia [ru] and installed LOIC (Low Orbital Ion Cannon, a weapon of choice of the Anonymous hacker group), an open-source tool for crowdsourced DDoS. For several hours, United Russia's website was unaccessible. "
2011. On February 25, for the first time in the RuNet history, the website of the United Russia' party was attacked
Commercials attacks are a grim reality for many websites as well - they are being organized on a daily basis, and their owners are being extorted [ru]. According to the latest research [ru] by Russian cybersecurity company Group IB, 35 percent of DDoS attacks are conducted by Russian (or, to be more precise, russophone) hackers.
Versions behind the attack
In these conditions, anonymous and relatively cheap DDoS attacks are more efficient than legal prosecution or physical harrassment of bloggers. Combined with human bots that spin “hot” topics, this tactic helps authorities deny any evident fact of cyber censorship. Other evidence of the political origin of these attacks is the fact that before LiveJournal, an anti-corruption website rospil.info had been attacked by infamous Darkness/Optima botnet (the name of the network of infected computers). These and other details of the attack were published by the independent analysis [ru] at Kaspersky Lab, a cyber security company
https://globalvoices.org/2011/04/08/russia-distributed-denial-of-livejournal/
http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/infosecurity/68131/
http://www.securelist.com/ru/blog/40425/LiveJournal_pod_atakoy
And:
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/03/28/russia-2010-cyber-crime-market-research/
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/03/21/russia-human-bots-fight-opposition/
// Old historical reference
http://siteua.org/content/images/280x210/238378.jpg
4 April 2017 16:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Only thing we can hope, that it is not related to this:
https://twitter.com/ChechenCenter/status/780013446297448448
http://thechechenpress.com/developments/12580-ryazanskij-sakhar.html
"«К 17-ой годовщине провала одной из плановых операций ФСБ России (против собственного народа) в городе Рязань, истинной целью убийств ни в чём не повинных граждан России, а именно взрывы домов в городах Каспийск, Волгодонск, Москва, а затем вторая военная компания против Чеченской Ресублики Ичкерия в рехультате которой погибли сотни тыся людей…, было приводом к власти приемника Президента РФ Б.Ельцина, никому не известного подполковника ФСБ В.Путина…»...
Google trans:
"By the 17th anniversary of the failure of one of the planned operations of the FSB of Russia (against its own people) in the city of Ryazan, the true purpose of the murders of innocent civilians in Russia, namely, the bombings of houses in the cities of Kaspiysk, Volgodonsk, Moscow, and then the second military company Against the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria in the repertoire of which hundreds of thousands of people were killed ... was the drive to the power of President Boris Yeltsin's receiver, the unknown FSB lieutenant V.Putin ... "
https://twitter.com/ChechenCenter/status/780013446297448448
http://thechechenpress.com/developments/12580-ryazanskij-sakhar.html
"«К 17-ой годовщине провала одной из плановых операций ФСБ России (против собственного народа) в городе Рязань, истинной целью убийств ни в чём не повинных граждан России, а именно взрывы домов в городах Каспийск, Волгодонск, Москва, а затем вторая военная компания против Чеченской Ресублики Ичкерия в рехультате которой погибли сотни тыся людей…, было приводом к власти приемника Президента РФ Б.Ельцина, никому не известного подполковника ФСБ В.Путина…»...
Google trans:
"By the 17th anniversary of the failure of one of the planned operations of the FSB of Russia (against its own people) in the city of Ryazan, the true purpose of the murders of innocent civilians in Russia, namely, the bombings of houses in the cities of Kaspiysk, Volgodonsk, Moscow, and then the second military company Against the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria in the repertoire of which hundreds of thousands of people were killed ... was the drive to the power of President Boris Yeltsin's receiver, the unknown FSB lieutenant V.Putin ... "
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtMpj4KWIAA80A-.jpg:large
4 April 2017 16:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
To get us in to final war, shall not happen, all your deeds will be revealed, most, can not be proven but at least, will be prevented in future, to aggregate the ones with lesser brain or understandings in to most un useful acts. Shame on these who will use that on advancing their agenda, for who it is celebration day about "i told you so " and "let's do it now"
3 April 2017 21:00
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
of-course someones are ot fully honest and will start about "yes but everyone has right...."
YEA, but about THESE right then who like to take Other's rights away (on whatever side and reasons ... how come they not have right equally to practice what they want ? )
and then usually not much evolving conversations from there : (
YEA, but about THESE right then who like to take Other's rights away (on whatever side and reasons ... how come they not have right equally to practice what they want ? )
and then usually not much evolving conversations from there : (
3 April 2017 16:26
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
i always would like to see why person is tolerate and after 3-4 step in to it is easy to arrive to a point "so when you want this and that to protect and keep... then THESE and THAT can not be tolerated, right?"
3 April 2017 16:24
Margus Meigo replied to Lauri Takk's comment.
The best!
3 April 2017 16:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
natukene juba tuunitud, kui paar vahepealset lõiku juures:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIRS03G-7EU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIRS03G-7EU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIRS03G-7EU
3 April 2017 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ega ikka kuldseid käsi, asjata ei raiska!
https://www.facebook.com/hiiglased/videos/1238449919604665/
https://www.facebook.com/hiiglased/videos/1238449919604665/
3 April 2017 02:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu labidad ja rehad on kahjuks katki, ei saa üldse tööd teha!
https://www.facebook.com/hiiglased/videos/1239527536163570
http://www.luts.ee/arkaadia/?q=node/5884
https://www.facebook.com/hiiglased/videos/1239527536163570
http://www.luts.ee/arkaadia/?q=node/5884
3 April 2017 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to Tiina Kümmel-Klooster's comment.
Raamat muidugi . )
3 April 2017 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on Seiklejate Vennaskond's photo.
Oi Oi ma just Enne filipiinidele plaanisin minna elama sutsuks ajaks.. kuid selle tahaks küll enne läbi elada ju!
2 April 2017 22:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Com-rades in arms
Ties and Boots
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=407920266234981&set=gm.317284435341200&type=3&theater
Ties and Boots
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=407920266234981&set=gm.317284435341200&type=3&theater
2 April 2017 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But yea the Leninist-Nazi (and Antiestablisment-Bilionaire + anti-jew and jew-fänning trump) narrative have to work out.. As i told is simple if u think of ROme..
"Haha", blogger surprise is priceless:
"Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is no longer regularly on the National Security Council Principals Committee. Steve Bannon is."
Sean: "Are u serious?
what clearance does he have? How.can he advise on military matters?"
"I think he was a low-level naval officer before joining Goldman Sachs to begin a career screwing people."
Sean: "Hard to believe that pos was in the Navy. Whoever gave him a Top Secret should be tried for stupidity."
"Respectfully, the article states that Trump gave Bannon a seat on the principals committee
"Bannon will have a regular seat on the principals committee. The Joint Chiefs of Staff will not."
"Most frightening is that Bannon is sitting in on the highest level of military meetings... pipeline to FSB (Russia) "
"so ur telling me the guy who has "Mein Kampf" as one of his top 3 books is what again? Holy fuck ."
"Does that mean Russia is now in charge of our national security?"
"it is. And it's scary. Further proof that @StephenBannon is running a shadow government? "
// lol i thought Obama was :D
"Think of Breitbart. Now think of that mentality commanding the most powerful armed services on earth. That's where we're headed"
"does he have the legal right to do this??"
"what credentials does Bannon have that puts him ahead of experienced candidates on the security council?"
"whats next? A YouTuber at the Department of Treasury?"
"SO Dangerous! Why isn't @HouseGOP @SenateGOP Stopping this ?"
"He's now messing with US Security and placing a political hack in the place of the Chief of Staff. How the hell did he come up with this?"
"This man has no qualifications to have such power. He was running a white nationalist website. Now he's on NSC?"
"There's some real eye openers in this article. The last 2 paragraphs included."
"he really believes Russia is going to help defeat isis? hmmm"
"One of the most distressing and frightening pieces of news ever to emanate from the White House."
"Are you fucking kidding me? So we officially have a quasi Nazi doing national security policy? When is it enough, #GOP?"
"your tweets are unclear, doesn't matter anyways, Steve Bannon will do a great job !"
https://twitter.com/amywalters_/status/825515869027512320
"Haha", blogger surprise is priceless:
"Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is no longer regularly on the National Security Council Principals Committee. Steve Bannon is."
Sean: "Are u serious?
what clearance does he have? How.can he advise on military matters?"
"I think he was a low-level naval officer before joining Goldman Sachs to begin a career screwing people."
Sean: "Hard to believe that pos was in the Navy. Whoever gave him a Top Secret should be tried for stupidity."
"Respectfully, the article states that Trump gave Bannon a seat on the principals committee
"Bannon will have a regular seat on the principals committee. The Joint Chiefs of Staff will not."
"Most frightening is that Bannon is sitting in on the highest level of military meetings... pipeline to FSB (Russia) "
"so ur telling me the guy who has "Mein Kampf" as one of his top 3 books is what again? Holy fuck ."
"Does that mean Russia is now in charge of our national security?"
"it is. And it's scary. Further proof that @StephenBannon is running a shadow government? "
// lol i thought Obama was :D
"Think of Breitbart. Now think of that mentality commanding the most powerful armed services on earth. That's where we're headed"
"does he have the legal right to do this??"
"what credentials does Bannon have that puts him ahead of experienced candidates on the security council?"
"whats next? A YouTuber at the Department of Treasury?"
"SO Dangerous! Why isn't @HouseGOP @SenateGOP Stopping this ?"
"He's now messing with US Security and placing a political hack in the place of the Chief of Staff. How the hell did he come up with this?"
"This man has no qualifications to have such power. He was running a white nationalist website. Now he's on NSC?"
"There's some real eye openers in this article. The last 2 paragraphs included."
"he really believes Russia is going to help defeat isis? hmmm"
"One of the most distressing and frightening pieces of news ever to emanate from the White House."
"Are you fucking kidding me? So we officially have a quasi Nazi doing national security policy? When is it enough, #GOP?"
"your tweets are unclear, doesn't matter anyways, Steve Bannon will do a great job !"
https://twitter.com/amywalters_/status/825515869027512320
https://twitter.com/amywalters_/status/825515869027512320
2 April 2017 22:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Q: "When a white person expresses anti-black views in family and friend circles, what is the best thing an anti-racist white person can do?
A:
Evaluate the situation. Ask yourself if this is somebody that you have a relationship and care about. .. "
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okey this is just so sick can not even read on that , far cry from niggardy you piggot
u freaking anti-racist white person.
PS, if it is your family or friends sircle, or human sircle if you want to be so loving, then you stone head DO NO NEED to:
"Ask yourself if this is somebody that you have a relationship and care about. "
friends and family, for normal, un sicophatic persons, already meaning that
and if you fighting for HUMAn or race rights, greater values, then there is not even a question about if You care , you always will, even if they beat you. On that moment, You try to make so they not hurt them self to much when they attack you. This is CARE !
A:
Evaluate the situation. Ask yourself if this is somebody that you have a relationship and care about. .. "
¤¤¤
okey this is just so sick can not even read on that , far cry from niggardy you piggot
u freaking anti-racist white person.
PS, if it is your family or friends sircle, or human sircle if you want to be so loving, then you stone head DO NO NEED to:
"Ask yourself if this is somebody that you have a relationship and care about. "
friends and family, for normal, un sicophatic persons, already meaning that
and if you fighting for HUMAn or race rights, greater values, then there is not even a question about if You care , you always will, even if they beat you. On that moment, You try to make so they not hurt them self to much when they attack you. This is CARE !
2 April 2017 12:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and is it negative as well, when i feel, when i see headlines like : "Activist Chris Crass On How Whites in OC and Beyond Can Help Black Lives Matter "
that these kind of people just some, at least would need to be shoot, so others would shut it.,
// How screwed up thing to even think in Your head, this is sick in so many levels, was think to be ready to comment on it, but i guess not jet.
i mean, really, you discovered, that "black lives" .. also matter ? A freaking genius you are innit, any idea how ... what is the word.... (???) ....id does sound?
it is like coming out with a slogan "women lives are also worth to spare" in a kind of Borat'ysh and then expecting to get a medal humanity award for it , freaking sub humans, evil scum.
http://www.ocweekly.com/content/printView/7623079
that these kind of people just some, at least would need to be shoot, so others would shut it.,
// How screwed up thing to even think in Your head, this is sick in so many levels, was think to be ready to comment on it, but i guess not jet.
i mean, really, you discovered, that "black lives" .. also matter ? A freaking genius you are innit, any idea how ... what is the word.... (???) ....id does sound?
it is like coming out with a slogan "women lives are also worth to spare" in a kind of Borat'ysh and then expecting to get a medal humanity award for it , freaking sub humans, evil scum.
http://www.ocweekly.com/content/printView/7623079
http://www.ocweekly.com/content/printView/7623079
2 April 2017 12:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Q: "Is it still racism if you hate everyone equally?"
A:
"It's not racists.
The definition of racism according to google is "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior." i don't consider my self racists but you can judge me. I think your racists if you racists to a certain group of people. If you make fun of everyone your not racists i am not ungrateful of humanity just i like to make fun of people and take my jokes too far sometimes, i like offensive comedy."
http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-it-still-racism-if-you-hate-everyone-equally
...
// yea that is better someone dares to think, to have even complete unjust hate not just flawed interpretation of various human group collective mistakes?
--
And then Leninist are fast to comment there unbelievable race hating dangerous propaganda:
so much to comment about it not even sure where to star:
" Race doesn't Exist.
If you believe it does, you are a racist...
Race is not biological. It is a social construct. There is no gene or cluster of genes common to all blacks or all whites. Were race “real” in the genetic sense, racial classifications for individuals would remain constant across boundaries.
Social constructionism or the social construction of reality (also social concept) is a theory of knowledge in sociology and communication theory that examines the development of jointly constructed understandings of the world that form the basis for shared assumptions about reality.
There is no necessary concordance between biological characteristics and culturally defined groups. On every continent, there are diverse populations that differ in language, economy, and culture. There is no national, religious, linguistic or cultural group or economic class that constitutes a race.
Genetic evidence has undermined the idea of racial divisions of the human species and rendered race obsolete as a biological system of classification. Race therefore should no longer be considered as an objective category, as the term formerly was in expressions like the Caucasian race, the Asian race, the Hispanic race.Instead, if the reference is to a particular inherited physical trait, as skin color or eye shape, that salient feature should be mentioned specifically.
There are times when it is still accurate to talk about race in society. Though race has lost its biological basis, the sociological consequences of historical racial categories persist. For example, it may be appropriate to invoke race to discuss social or historical events shaped by racial categorizations, as slavery, segregation, integration, discrimination, equal employment policy.
But, moving forward, if we are truly going to end racism and discrimination, then we need to start looking at scientific facts instead of jointly constructed assumptions of the world... "
or this one:
"If you believe in race you are a racist
Race is not biological. It is a social construct. There is no gene or cluster of genes common to all blacks or all whites. Were race “real” in the genetic sense, racial classifications for individuals would remain constant across boundaries.
There is only one race, the Human Race.
All humans living today belong to a single species, Homo sapiens, and share a common descent. Although there are differences of opinion regarding how and where different human groups diverged or fused to form new ones from a common ancestral group, all living populations in each of the earth's geographic areas have evolved from that ancestral group over the same amount of time. Much of the biological variation among populations involves modest degrees of variation in the frequency of shared traits. Human populations have at times been isolated, but have never genetically diverged enough to produce any biological barriers to mating between members of different populations.
Biological differences between human beings reflect both hereditary factors and the influence of natural and social environments. In most cases, these differences are due to the interaction of both. The degree to which environment or heredity affects any particular trait varies greatly.
There is great genetic diversity within all human populations. Pure races, in the sense of genetically homogenous populations, do not exist in the human species today, nor is there any evidence that they have ever existed in the past.
There are obvious physical differences between populations living in different geographic areas of the world. Some of these differences are strongly inherited and others, such as body size and shape, are strongly influenced by nutrition, way of life, and other aspects of the environment. Genetic differences between populations commonly consist of differences in the frequencies of all inherited traits, including those that are environmentally malleable.
There is no necessary concordance between biological characteristics and culturally defined groups. On every continent, there are diverse populations that differ in language, economy, and culture. There is no national, religious, linguistic or cultural group or economic class that constitutes a race.
In conclusion, if one believes in race as a social construct then one is admitting that they believe in something just because the rest of society believes in it and without evidence of it's existence. This type of preconceived opinion, whether favorable or unfavorable, is by definition a form of prejudice.
Believing people belong to a race because of how they look is racist. "
or the:
"It is not racist A REAL REASON
If you hate all races equally it doesn't make you a racist because it's just like saying you like them all equally.
Here's what i mean you hate whites 80%, hate blacks 80%, hate asians 80%, you get my point you hate all races the same percentages. That means 20% you like them all equally.
So therefore you are not a racist if you "like or hate" them equally.
So if you said i hate all races equally it's just the same as saying you like all racist equally."
// yea typical liberal "telling you hate everyone is same as telling you like everyone"
does one even understand, what this kind of thinking does to human brain, is it even legal to think so?
// It removes borders between good and bad, right and wrong among other things making humans feeling less, shallow,... as it is not taken as SERIOUS deep issue, when some one is so messed up that hates everyone, this is even more serious mistake harder to cure then confusions about cultures or races if you will,
and end note:
""You're all idiots!
If I hate everyone equally its no longer hating a specific person for their skin color/ place of birth, so its being a racist if I hate EVERYONE! If I hated you for being a different color than me then its racist. And another point is that hating a person for their religion isn't being a racist . You morons! If I hate that you are a its called persecution! "
A:
"It's not racists.
The definition of racism according to google is "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior." i don't consider my self racists but you can judge me. I think your racists if you racists to a certain group of people. If you make fun of everyone your not racists i am not ungrateful of humanity just i like to make fun of people and take my jokes too far sometimes, i like offensive comedy."
http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-it-still-racism-if-you-hate-everyone-equally
...
// yea that is better someone dares to think, to have even complete unjust hate not just flawed interpretation of various human group collective mistakes?
--
And then Leninist are fast to comment there unbelievable race hating dangerous propaganda:
so much to comment about it not even sure where to star:
" Race doesn't Exist.
If you believe it does, you are a racist...
Race is not biological. It is a social construct. There is no gene or cluster of genes common to all blacks or all whites. Were race “real” in the genetic sense, racial classifications for individuals would remain constant across boundaries.
Social constructionism or the social construction of reality (also social concept) is a theory of knowledge in sociology and communication theory that examines the development of jointly constructed understandings of the world that form the basis for shared assumptions about reality.
There is no necessary concordance between biological characteristics and culturally defined groups. On every continent, there are diverse populations that differ in language, economy, and culture. There is no national, religious, linguistic or cultural group or economic class that constitutes a race.
Genetic evidence has undermined the idea of racial divisions of the human species and rendered race obsolete as a biological system of classification. Race therefore should no longer be considered as an objective category, as the term formerly was in expressions like the Caucasian race, the Asian race, the Hispanic race.Instead, if the reference is to a particular inherited physical trait, as skin color or eye shape, that salient feature should be mentioned specifically.
There are times when it is still accurate to talk about race in society. Though race has lost its biological basis, the sociological consequences of historical racial categories persist. For example, it may be appropriate to invoke race to discuss social or historical events shaped by racial categorizations, as slavery, segregation, integration, discrimination, equal employment policy.
But, moving forward, if we are truly going to end racism and discrimination, then we need to start looking at scientific facts instead of jointly constructed assumptions of the world... "
or this one:
"If you believe in race you are a racist
Race is not biological. It is a social construct. There is no gene or cluster of genes common to all blacks or all whites. Were race “real” in the genetic sense, racial classifications for individuals would remain constant across boundaries.
There is only one race, the Human Race.
All humans living today belong to a single species, Homo sapiens, and share a common descent. Although there are differences of opinion regarding how and where different human groups diverged or fused to form new ones from a common ancestral group, all living populations in each of the earth's geographic areas have evolved from that ancestral group over the same amount of time. Much of the biological variation among populations involves modest degrees of variation in the frequency of shared traits. Human populations have at times been isolated, but have never genetically diverged enough to produce any biological barriers to mating between members of different populations.
Biological differences between human beings reflect both hereditary factors and the influence of natural and social environments. In most cases, these differences are due to the interaction of both. The degree to which environment or heredity affects any particular trait varies greatly.
There is great genetic diversity within all human populations. Pure races, in the sense of genetically homogenous populations, do not exist in the human species today, nor is there any evidence that they have ever existed in the past.
There are obvious physical differences between populations living in different geographic areas of the world. Some of these differences are strongly inherited and others, such as body size and shape, are strongly influenced by nutrition, way of life, and other aspects of the environment. Genetic differences between populations commonly consist of differences in the frequencies of all inherited traits, including those that are environmentally malleable.
There is no necessary concordance between biological characteristics and culturally defined groups. On every continent, there are diverse populations that differ in language, economy, and culture. There is no national, religious, linguistic or cultural group or economic class that constitutes a race.
In conclusion, if one believes in race as a social construct then one is admitting that they believe in something just because the rest of society believes in it and without evidence of it's existence. This type of preconceived opinion, whether favorable or unfavorable, is by definition a form of prejudice.
Believing people belong to a race because of how they look is racist. "
or the:
"It is not racist A REAL REASON
If you hate all races equally it doesn't make you a racist because it's just like saying you like them all equally.
Here's what i mean you hate whites 80%, hate blacks 80%, hate asians 80%, you get my point you hate all races the same percentages. That means 20% you like them all equally.
So therefore you are not a racist if you "like or hate" them equally.
So if you said i hate all races equally it's just the same as saying you like all racist equally."
// yea typical liberal "telling you hate everyone is same as telling you like everyone"
does one even understand, what this kind of thinking does to human brain, is it even legal to think so?
// It removes borders between good and bad, right and wrong among other things making humans feeling less, shallow,... as it is not taken as SERIOUS deep issue, when some one is so messed up that hates everyone, this is even more serious mistake harder to cure then confusions about cultures or races if you will,
and end note:
""You're all idiots!
If I hate everyone equally its no longer hating a specific person for their skin color/ place of birth, so its being a racist if I hate EVERYONE! If I hated you for being a different color than me then its racist. And another point is that hating a person for their religion isn't being a racist . You morons! If I hate that you are a its called persecution! "
http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-it-still-racism-if-you-hate-everyone-equally
2 April 2017 11:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
niggardly, maybe, but:..
So i look up for Dictionary word "racist"
they told Synonyms among others are: "illiberal"
(sounds like anti-liberal, that would make sense)
And to confirm my case there was: "More words related to illiberal: bourgeois
adj. commonplace
Victorian
common
conservative
conventional
hidebound
illiberal
materialistic
middle-class
old-line
philistine
traditional
(so sounds not so bad, unless You are liberal anti-Victorianist or New Age'r, the new facist or communist agger in liberal self fooling package "i hate you so much for not being tolerant (that way as i demand, now) " )
...
and then there is a listed words, that are near, near to word that is synonym to racist:
and CLOSE: adj. stingy, NIGGAEDLY
Word Origin & History:
niggardly 1560s, from niggard."It was while giving a speech in Washington, to a very international audience, about the British theft of the Elgin marbles from the Parthenon. I described the attitude of the current British authorities as 'niggardly.' Nobody said anything, but I privately resolvedhaving felt the word hanging in the air a bitto say 'parsimonious' from then on."
[Christopher Hitchens,
"The Pernicious Effects of Banning Words," Slate.com, Dec. 4, 2006]
--
Ofocurse, my meaning, the new meaning that will be known and understood by world as well in days to come, is Racist: " a person who loves races " (as you can not just have relationship with ONE race, to believe, there is A race better, equal or worst, then there is belief that there is more, then one... )
Well then there is the nutcases who say there is no races at all,
So i look up for Dictionary word "racist"
they told Synonyms among others are: "illiberal"
(sounds like anti-liberal, that would make sense)
And to confirm my case there was: "More words related to illiberal: bourgeois
adj. commonplace
Victorian
common
conservative
conventional
hidebound
illiberal
materialistic
middle-class
old-line
philistine
traditional
(so sounds not so bad, unless You are liberal anti-Victorianist or New Age'r, the new facist or communist agger in liberal self fooling package "i hate you so much for not being tolerant (that way as i demand, now) " )
...
and then there is a listed words, that are near, near to word that is synonym to racist:
and CLOSE: adj. stingy, NIGGAEDLY
Word Origin & History:
niggardly 1560s, from niggard."It was while giving a speech in Washington, to a very international audience, about the British theft of the Elgin marbles from the Parthenon. I described the attitude of the current British authorities as 'niggardly.' Nobody said anything, but I privately resolvedhaving felt the word hanging in the air a bitto say 'parsimonious' from then on."
[Christopher Hitchens,
"The Pernicious Effects of Banning Words," Slate.com, Dec. 4, 2006]
--
Ofocurse, my meaning, the new meaning that will be known and understood by world as well in days to come, is Racist: " a person who loves races " (as you can not just have relationship with ONE race, to believe, there is A race better, equal or worst, then there is belief that there is more, then one... )
Well then there is the nutcases who say there is no races at all,
2 April 2017 11:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and how in a word, in English, if you add
" IN " +" Justice "
you get: injustice; " injury, wrong, grievance mean an act that inflicts undeserved hurt. injustice applies to any act that involves unfairness to another or violation of one's rights (the injustices suffered by the lower classes). "
" IN " +" Justice "
you get: injustice; " injury, wrong, grievance mean an act that inflicts undeserved hurt. injustice applies to any act that involves unfairness to another or violation of one's rights (the injustices suffered by the lower classes). "
2 April 2017 11:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
we have to step up for that minority and fix that injustice !
2 April 2017 11:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Google translate: "The people are so intolerant racists by today"
No, Mr, Google, this is what i am talking about, You assume.. but i told:
"The people are so intolerant AGAINST racists in today's world"
No, Mr, Google, this is what i am talking about, You assume.. but i told:
"The people are so intolerant AGAINST racists in today's world"
2 April 2017 11:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tsekka täägi:
#LasVegasRaiders #hardLife #america
panin u 5-7 gruppi ja syyria kodukale, et näeksid, et rasked elukorrad ka teistel inimestel südames kuigi linn on korrras..
#LasVegasRaiders #hardLife #america
panin u 5-7 gruppi ja syyria kodukale, et näeksid, et rasked elukorrad ka teistel inimestel südames kuigi linn on korrras..
2 April 2017 08:13
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
wau
2 April 2017 08:03
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
:D
2 April 2017 08:00
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
puff puff , pass around..
this is a parody news right ? .. oi vist ei olnutki.. kuig peab veel uurima, liiga syreal
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=puff%20puff%20pass
this is a parody news right ? .. oi vist ei olnutki.. kuig peab veel uurima, liiga syreal
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=puff%20puff%20pass
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=puff+puff+pass
2 April 2017 07:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja aega leidma
2 April 2017 07:50
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
hea seegi,
kuid igast 12 aastaste tööd ei tasu uskuma enne hakata kui seda ise üle kontrollida, kui 12 aastane sai hakkama siis me 10, 20 aastat vanemad peaks kergesti hakkama saama
kuid igast 12 aastaste tööd ei tasu uskuma enne hakata kui seda ise üle kontrollida, kui 12 aastane sai hakkama siis me 10, 20 aastat vanemad peaks kergesti hakkama saama
2 April 2017 07:50
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
i thought it was the "give key's away you are fired" kind of thing,
well, different company perhaps..
well, different company perhaps..
2 April 2017 07:48
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
and this is how creative, progressive people work, and as you see, it is all true and worked out well,
and then we, the people, complain on most retarded position " they co operate with each other..."
Really? .. this is a bad thing to say about someone ? What about you cooperate so you not have to be a slave
and then we, the people, complain on most retarded position " they co operate with each other..."
Really? .. this is a bad thing to say about someone ? What about you cooperate so you not have to be a slave
2 April 2017 07:47
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
algus seegi
2 April 2017 07:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this is also usable
2 April 2017 07:44
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
but they provide you to info what info they provide you
2 April 2017 07:44
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
meil pole vaja kaugelt otsida.. sama siin
ja eriti veel siberi ja kogu nede aladega milest "venemaa" koosneb
ja eriti veel siberi ja kogu nede aladega milest "venemaa" koosneb
2 April 2017 07:43
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
2 April 2017 07:41
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
halleluuja!
2 April 2017 07:40
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's photo.
yea, and once more, make sure to walk on pavement,
Eeslid käivad murupeal ju
Eeslid käivad murupeal ju
2 April 2017 07:39
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
ei, ma nii hullu pole kunagi pannud vist, et psühedeelikume raisates neid alkoholiga omavahel segamini võtta,
Vb kunagi väga ammu sai vist õlut mõned korrad samal ajal võetud (kuigi vist mitte) siis kui polnud veel seenteni jõudnud, kuid üldiselt ikka need eri suundades asjad, siis kui segamini võtta siis on lihtsalt targem või mõnusam purjus olek, arvutuste kohaselt, kuid point ei ole ju mitte purjus või segi olla, vaid selge ja edasiarenev olla. Jumala tahtele ligemale jõuda. Õigettööd teha.
Lõbustuse jaoks ei teagi... millal see oli kui lõbustuse jaoks sai võetud miskit.. seda võiks ühe käe sõrmedel üles lugeda hippinduse algus aegades.
Ja ka siis oli ikkagi mingi tunnete ja suhtluse suunaline teema. Nii kuis ise mäletan.
Muidugi reisides, vahest igast muid asju ka näinud kuid eks seda veel annab uurida, kuidas on olnud.
Vb kunagi väga ammu sai vist õlut mõned korrad samal ajal võetud (kuigi vist mitte) siis kui polnud veel seenteni jõudnud, kuid üldiselt ikka need eri suundades asjad, siis kui segamini võtta siis on lihtsalt targem või mõnusam purjus olek, arvutuste kohaselt, kuid point ei ole ju mitte purjus või segi olla, vaid selge ja edasiarenev olla. Jumala tahtele ligemale jõuda. Õigettööd teha.
Lõbustuse jaoks ei teagi... millal see oli kui lõbustuse jaoks sai võetud miskit.. seda võiks ühe käe sõrmedel üles lugeda hippinduse algus aegades.
Ja ka siis oli ikkagi mingi tunnete ja suhtluse suunaline teema. Nii kuis ise mäletan.
Muidugi reisides, vahest igast muid asju ka näinud kuid eks seda veel annab uurida, kuidas on olnud.
2 April 2017 07:36
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
ok, srry wennas, jänu oli., uuua uuua...
1 April 2017 09:21
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
:D :D :D
1 April 2017 09:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
esper.net and rizon.net chat servers /list
http://esper.net/
1 April 2017 09:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
get deeper, in https://www.nationstates.net/page=display_region_rmb/region=southfield?start=33125 and irc networks
https://www.nationstates.net/page=display_region_rmb/region=southfield?start=33125
1 April 2017 09:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So we set to fly over, hold back time, to set order in that corner of minds
"
The Free Land of EesTi Maa is a fledgling, orderly nation, notable for its barren, inhospitable landscape, compulsory vegetarianism, and compulsory military service. The compassionate, hard-working, cynical, devout population of 6 million EesTi Maans are kept under strict control by the oppressive government, which measures its success by the nation's GDP and refers to individual citizens as "human resources."
The relatively small, moralistic, well-organized government juggles the competing demands of Spirituality, Education, and Welfare. The average income tax rate is 13.0%.
The EesTi Maan economy, worth 335 billion Kroons a year, is fairly diversified and led by the Uranium Mining industry, with major contributions from Basket Weaving, Furniture Restoration, and Automobile Manufacturing. Average income is 55,865 Kroons, and evenly distributed, with the richest citizens earning only 4.5 times as much as the poorest.
Vegetarianism is compulsory, it is illegal to make racist remarks in public, military funding has been stripped back, and a large-scale revitalization of the education system is underway. Crime, especially youth-related, is totally unknown, thanks to a capable police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. EesTi Maa's national animal is the Swallow, which can occasionally be seen dodging aircraft in the nation's cities.
EesTi Maa is ranked 88,886th in the world and 4,354th in the West Pacific for Highest Workforce Participation Rate, with 69 Workforce Participation Rate. "
// this A.I. knows surprisingly a lot, some things that makes You clearly know, that them know a lot.. this platform, kind of things that are not written in school books but folklore at best.
"
The Free Land of EesTi Maa is a fledgling, orderly nation, notable for its barren, inhospitable landscape, compulsory vegetarianism, and compulsory military service. The compassionate, hard-working, cynical, devout population of 6 million EesTi Maans are kept under strict control by the oppressive government, which measures its success by the nation's GDP and refers to individual citizens as "human resources."
The relatively small, moralistic, well-organized government juggles the competing demands of Spirituality, Education, and Welfare. The average income tax rate is 13.0%.
The EesTi Maan economy, worth 335 billion Kroons a year, is fairly diversified and led by the Uranium Mining industry, with major contributions from Basket Weaving, Furniture Restoration, and Automobile Manufacturing. Average income is 55,865 Kroons, and evenly distributed, with the richest citizens earning only 4.5 times as much as the poorest.
Vegetarianism is compulsory, it is illegal to make racist remarks in public, military funding has been stripped back, and a large-scale revitalization of the education system is underway. Crime, especially youth-related, is totally unknown, thanks to a capable police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. EesTi Maa's national animal is the Swallow, which can occasionally be seen dodging aircraft in the nation's cities.
EesTi Maa is ranked 88,886th in the world and 4,354th in the West Pacific for Highest Workforce Participation Rate, with 69 Workforce Participation Rate. "
// this A.I. knows surprisingly a lot, some things that makes You clearly know, that them know a lot.. this platform, kind of things that are not written in school books but folklore at best.
1 April 2017 08:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 April 2017 05:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 April 2017 05:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Bitcoin You say... (Sexless, druids, trans-human, today liberal kind of.. well Legion You say.. had personal contact with them perhaps as well, when went hanging with Bitcoin Magazine people and other 's some third kinds more them supporters then the Queen ones..)
" The Free Land of Leskya is a huge, safe nation, renowned for its otherworldly petting zoo, complete lack of prisons, and punitive income tax rates. The compassionate, democratic population of 453 million Synthetics have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.
The medium-sized government juggles the competing demands of Education, Healthcare, and Industry. It meets to discuss matters of state in the capital city of Primary Network Hub. The average income tax rate is 61.8%, and even higher for the wealthy.
The frighteningly efficient Leskyan economy, worth 59.3 trillion Bitcoins a year, is broadly diversified and led by the Information Technology industry, with major contributions from Tourism, Book Publishing, and Cheese Exports. State-owned companies are reasonably common. Average income is an impressive 130,940 Bitcoins, and distributed extremely evenly, with little difference between the richest and poorest citizens.
The mining industry is making inroads into environmentally sensitive areas, health inspectors are seen eating black truffle fondue with their bottled water, the military recognizes no difference between male and female soldiers, and most citizens in Leskya are abject pyrophobes after extremely graphic pamphlets were mailed nationwide by the government. Crime, especially youth-related, is totally unknown. Leskya's national animal is the Moose, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests.
Leskya is ranked 145,171st in the world and 68th in Southfield for Highest Workforce Participation Rate, with 62.86 Workforce Participation Rate.
" The Free Land of Leskya is a huge, safe nation, renowned for its otherworldly petting zoo, complete lack of prisons, and punitive income tax rates. The compassionate, democratic population of 453 million Synthetics have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.
The medium-sized government juggles the competing demands of Education, Healthcare, and Industry. It meets to discuss matters of state in the capital city of Primary Network Hub. The average income tax rate is 61.8%, and even higher for the wealthy.
The frighteningly efficient Leskyan economy, worth 59.3 trillion Bitcoins a year, is broadly diversified and led by the Information Technology industry, with major contributions from Tourism, Book Publishing, and Cheese Exports. State-owned companies are reasonably common. Average income is an impressive 130,940 Bitcoins, and distributed extremely evenly, with little difference between the richest and poorest citizens.
The mining industry is making inroads into environmentally sensitive areas, health inspectors are seen eating black truffle fondue with their bottled water, the military recognizes no difference between male and female soldiers, and most citizens in Leskya are abject pyrophobes after extremely graphic pamphlets were mailed nationwide by the government. Crime, especially youth-related, is totally unknown. Leskya's national animal is the Moose, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests.
Leskya is ranked 145,171st in the world and 68th in Southfield for Highest Workforce Participation Rate, with 62.86 Workforce Participation Rate.
1 April 2017 05:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(So this is little bit of the Queen and UK land, having meeting with Fox 'es them self in there.. )
The United Kingdom of Foxilan is a massive, efficient nation, ruled by Queen Antoinette I with a fair hand, and renowned for its smutty television, punitive income tax rates, and stringent health and safety legislation. The compassionate, democratic population of 2.011 billion Foxilanians hold their civil and political rights very dear, although the wealthy and those in business tend to be viewed with suspicion.
The large, outspoken government juggles the competing demands of Education, Environment, and Healthcare. It meets to discuss matters of state in the capital city of Hinojosa. The average income tax rate is 76.0%, and even higher for the wealthy.
The frighteningly efficient Foxilanian economy, worth 241 trillion Drachmas a year, is quite specialized and led by the Tourism industry, with significant contributions from Information Technology, Basket Weaving, and Book Publishing. State-owned companies are reasonably common. Average income is an impressive 120,301 Drachmas, and evenly distributed, with the richest citizens earning only 2.0 times as much as the poorest.
The nation's official head of religious affairs is an atheist, people who have had childhood imaginary friends are told they can't ever be trusted with guns, legal contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on, and the election for Queen Antoinette I's office's janitor is heating up. Crime is totally unknown, thanks to a capable police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. Foxilan's national animal is the Fox, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its national religion is θρησκεία.
Foxilan is ranked 162,897th in the world and 72nd in Southfield for Highest Workforce Participation Rate, with 47.99 Workforce Participation Rate.
The United Kingdom of Foxilan is a massive, efficient nation, ruled by Queen Antoinette I with a fair hand, and renowned for its smutty television, punitive income tax rates, and stringent health and safety legislation. The compassionate, democratic population of 2.011 billion Foxilanians hold their civil and political rights very dear, although the wealthy and those in business tend to be viewed with suspicion.
The large, outspoken government juggles the competing demands of Education, Environment, and Healthcare. It meets to discuss matters of state in the capital city of Hinojosa. The average income tax rate is 76.0%, and even higher for the wealthy.
The frighteningly efficient Foxilanian economy, worth 241 trillion Drachmas a year, is quite specialized and led by the Tourism industry, with significant contributions from Information Technology, Basket Weaving, and Book Publishing. State-owned companies are reasonably common. Average income is an impressive 120,301 Drachmas, and evenly distributed, with the richest citizens earning only 2.0 times as much as the poorest.
The nation's official head of religious affairs is an atheist, people who have had childhood imaginary friends are told they can't ever be trusted with guns, legal contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on, and the election for Queen Antoinette I's office's janitor is heating up. Crime is totally unknown, thanks to a capable police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. Foxilan's national animal is the Fox, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its national religion is θρησκεία.
Foxilan is ranked 162,897th in the world and 72nd in Southfield for Highest Workforce Participation Rate, with 47.99 Workforce Participation Rate.
1 April 2017 05:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 April 2017 05:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
soo.. they seem to be so advanced in to this, that even if i would be able to get this done what was planned, they seem to be by far tuned in to it in so effective way, that my advancements to get head start in new kind of preparation would be like tuning first discovered Zaporozhets for going to indycar 500 or to The Baja 1000
1 April 2017 05:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 April 2017 05:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
then they keep it up,
(this is more interesting then most of ordinary day politic talk, even if looked as imagination)
Take time to read next few pages and think of it, out of box, really.. a bit, and know that best way to talk about it, if there is another presence ins on open in most time in context as the google spy game was for finding last hidden places and ..
anyway, continuing:
(this is more interesting then most of ordinary day politic talk, even if looked as imagination)
Take time to read next few pages and think of it, out of box, really.. a bit, and know that best way to talk about it, if there is another presence ins on open in most time in context as the google spy game was for finding last hidden places and ..
anyway, continuing:
1 April 2017 05:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// Little lesser wordings but still:
" The Utopia Project
"The stars have called us for millennia and now we walk among them. A universe of possibilities is open to us, and as we take our first fitful steps into the great unknown we must remember to look back at where we started; divided, primitive, imperfect. A great man once asked; "Is there a perfect world?". Now, we can answer that question and build something new. Now, we can unify and build that perfect society. We will do this for freedom, for the future of our people, and for progression of us as a nation. We will build Utopia."
(( Gabriel Dahlberg, accompanied by the entirety of the Parliament, officially announced "The Utopia Project". The goals of this ambitious project is to create what Dahlberg calls "a perfect society". The Confederation now aims to reduce Leskya's green house gas emissions by 110%, completely abolish the use of fossil fuels, promote multiculturalism between Leskyan citizens; whether AI or human, eliminate all diseases, and create a harmonious coexistence between technology, humanity, and nature, among other comparatively minor goals.
https://www.nationstates.net/region=southfield/page=display_region_rmb?postid=24144310
Communication under it:
The United Kingdom of Foxilan wrote:
So...you want to become Foxilan...in a way?
The Free Land of Leskya wrote:
Narcissistic, aren't you? When it comes to ecological policies, yes, in a way we want to become Foxilan. Of course, if the project goes as planned and succeeds we will be much better than Foxilan in many ways.
The United Kingdom of Foxilan wrote:
You are a funny man. Queen Shelby could do this and much quicker than you as well. You want a good competition wager?
The Free Land of Leskya wrote:
Is this a challenge? I'll refuse. The betterment and clear superiority of my people will not become a "wager".
The United Kingdom of Foxilan wrote:
Superiority? You starting to sound a bit German.
The Free Land of Leskya wrote:
And you're starting to sound a bit racist towards Germans. The Germans weren't, and aren't, the only people who thought of themselves as 'superior'.
// (me) // LOL if they would only know HOW superior Estonians know them self to be to Germans... xD No wonder the Baltic Germans wanted to keep Estonia identity, turning the germanization backward..anyway, back to talk:
The United Kingdom of Foxilan wrote:
I know that but Germans made it quite clear not to long ago. That's why I have referencing it. Calm down.
The Free Land of Leskya wrote:
KKK = 1865. Apartheid = 1948 – 1994. Recent rise in self-identifying Neo-Nazis = recent. You were saying?
The United Kingdom of Foxilan wrote:
I guess someone cannot take a joke.
The Free Land of Leskya wrote:
Someone clearly still doesn't remember his own hypocrisy.
And then:
" The Utopia Project
"The stars have called us for millennia and now we walk among them. A universe of possibilities is open to us, and as we take our first fitful steps into the great unknown we must remember to look back at where we started; divided, primitive, imperfect. A great man once asked; "Is there a perfect world?". Now, we can answer that question and build something new. Now, we can unify and build that perfect society. We will do this for freedom, for the future of our people, and for progression of us as a nation. We will build Utopia."
(( Gabriel Dahlberg, accompanied by the entirety of the Parliament, officially announced "The Utopia Project". The goals of this ambitious project is to create what Dahlberg calls "a perfect society". The Confederation now aims to reduce Leskya's green house gas emissions by 110%, completely abolish the use of fossil fuels, promote multiculturalism between Leskyan citizens; whether AI or human, eliminate all diseases, and create a harmonious coexistence between technology, humanity, and nature, among other comparatively minor goals.
https://www.nationstates.net/region=southfield/page=display_region_rmb?postid=24144310
Communication under it:
The United Kingdom of Foxilan wrote:
So...you want to become Foxilan...in a way?
The Free Land of Leskya wrote:
Narcissistic, aren't you? When it comes to ecological policies, yes, in a way we want to become Foxilan. Of course, if the project goes as planned and succeeds we will be much better than Foxilan in many ways.
The United Kingdom of Foxilan wrote:
You are a funny man. Queen Shelby could do this and much quicker than you as well. You want a good competition wager?
The Free Land of Leskya wrote:
Is this a challenge? I'll refuse. The betterment and clear superiority of my people will not become a "wager".
The United Kingdom of Foxilan wrote:
Superiority? You starting to sound a bit German.
The Free Land of Leskya wrote:
And you're starting to sound a bit racist towards Germans. The Germans weren't, and aren't, the only people who thought of themselves as 'superior'.
// (me) // LOL if they would only know HOW superior Estonians know them self to be to Germans... xD No wonder the Baltic Germans wanted to keep Estonia identity, turning the germanization backward..anyway, back to talk:
The United Kingdom of Foxilan wrote:
I know that but Germans made it quite clear not to long ago. That's why I have referencing it. Calm down.
The Free Land of Leskya wrote:
KKK = 1865. Apartheid = 1948 – 1994. Recent rise in self-identifying Neo-Nazis = recent. You were saying?
The United Kingdom of Foxilan wrote:
I guess someone cannot take a joke.
The Free Land of Leskya wrote:
Someone clearly still doesn't remember his own hypocrisy.
And then:
https://www.nationstates.net/images/bannertitle5.png
1 April 2017 05:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And here is perfect intro for their ideology and thinking and ...
"Stellaris: Utopia "Path to Ascension"
// listen the text ! Have You heard anything more communistic, roman epirelic?
it is like EVERY word, 1:1 is crafted by master commies
the ones above the board
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmvGlBFaFEU
"Stellaris: Utopia "Path to Ascension"
// listen the text ! Have You heard anything more communistic, roman epirelic?
it is like EVERY word, 1:1 is crafted by master commies
the ones above the board
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmvGlBFaFEU
1 April 2017 04:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The Power of Representation: Publics, Peasants, and Islam in Egypt" Stanford University Press.
// Some way's is to unite "peasants and city" under same identity, re-imagined hijacked nationalism is most handy thing to hook un to, as FSB (Russia) forces are doing with Caucasian new Conservatism right now (while fueling before the liberalism with centuries old liberal organization helpings, so in the end it would be still sure win and who ever side will stay in unpredictable way, they will be convinced that thanks to the hidden powers, it become so, and truly, a lot of data can be shown how much of the organizations and work was initiated and sponsored by their followers or makings.. this is why 2 opposite sides are same time sponsored and data only from one presented as al lwhat will be contradictory can be told "this was not us, it is our opponents, here is proofs" .. and proofs will be unsdisputable deep and good, and if needed, comrades can die, sacrifice them self, in command, if needed to make other side know, that they was bad or good Or fro confusion(ism) )
https://books.google.ee/books?id=4WnTAAAAQBAJ
// Some way's is to unite "peasants and city" under same identity, re-imagined hijacked nationalism is most handy thing to hook un to, as FSB (Russia) forces are doing with Caucasian new Conservatism right now (while fueling before the liberalism with centuries old liberal organization helpings, so in the end it would be still sure win and who ever side will stay in unpredictable way, they will be convinced that thanks to the hidden powers, it become so, and truly, a lot of data can be shown how much of the organizations and work was initiated and sponsored by their followers or makings.. this is why 2 opposite sides are same time sponsored and data only from one presented as al lwhat will be contradictory can be told "this was not us, it is our opponents, here is proofs" .. and proofs will be unsdisputable deep and good, and if needed, comrades can die, sacrifice them self, in command, if needed to make other side know, that they was bad or good Or fro confusion(ism) )
https://books.google.ee/books?id=4WnTAAAAQBAJ
https://books.google.ee/books?id=4WnTAAAAQBAJ
1 April 2017 04:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Civilized peasants"
The really real question that holders of any real land of Gov, if they Do have a culture, have to ask:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/2g9nrt/how_long_does_it_take_to_change_an_areas_culture/
Transcript of talk, take from it what you will between the lines, imagine real rulers actually having this talk ,as they do:
Q: " How long does it take to change an area's culture?
(self.CrusaderKings)
submitted 2 years ago
So currently I am David, the Ashkenazi King of Ireland. I modeled the character after myself in the Ruler Designer to have some fun. A while back, during maybe my father's or grandfather's reign, a prompt popped up saying that a couple counties embraced Ashkenazi culture. I didn't know that could happen, and I noticed that on the culture map there are purple dashes on all of the Irish counties. How do I make my whole kingdom Ashkenazi? Does it just naturally happen after a while? Also is there any benefit to my kingdom becoming Ashkenazi? Thanks in advance! "
A:
"for county rulers with stewardship scores of 9 to 15, it could take on average from 75 years to 30 years.
for county rulers with stewardship scores lower than 5, it could take on average 100 to 500 years.
i don't know if the culture can change in the years outside of its 'average zone'. it could be impossible, or just really really unlikely.
you'll get lower revolt risk in each of your Ashkenazi provinces. "
A:
" " i don't know if the culture can change in the years outside of its 'average zone'. " "
It's possible via some events. "Civilized peasants" definitely, and I think your vassals can also have the "get some of the boys from back home" event.
Not all that common, but not extremely rare either.
You will sometimes see a county switching to your culture and religion within only a few years after the conquest. "
A:
" those events are what cause the culture of provinces to convert, and they have the same likeliness to happen (i.e. same factors / MTTH) as each other. when culture converts, it's because a character receives that event. "
Q:
"So would it be beneficial to try get vassals with good stewardship to get Ashkenazi culture? I've had a few revolts here and there but it's pretty minimal. "
A:
"Just make sure that you are landing those with your culture and preferably Midas touched or any other stewardship trait as it has a chance to base stewardship to their heirs "
Questioner to Answener:
"Okay, thank you for the advice!"
More Answers:
"all average means is that each month/year/day there is an x in y chance of conversion and that and 66 or 95% (1/2 sd deviations) chance that the conversion falls in this range I haven't looked at the actual code in a while but i think this is what happens "
"Because culture change is a character event, I would reckon that it would make sense that more characters = more culture change. If possible, grant foreign culture territories to a number of different Ashkenazi counts instead of giving it all to one duke "
"If you give a random courtier of your religion and culture all the titles in a duke dom he will start with no courtiers and create ones that share his religion and culture making your idea unnecessary (though having counts and duke vassels should make it go faster)"
The really real question that holders of any real land of Gov, if they Do have a culture, have to ask:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/2g9nrt/how_long_does_it_take_to_change_an_areas_culture/
Transcript of talk, take from it what you will between the lines, imagine real rulers actually having this talk ,as they do:
Q: " How long does it take to change an area's culture?
(self.CrusaderKings)
submitted 2 years ago
So currently I am David, the Ashkenazi King of Ireland. I modeled the character after myself in the Ruler Designer to have some fun. A while back, during maybe my father's or grandfather's reign, a prompt popped up saying that a couple counties embraced Ashkenazi culture. I didn't know that could happen, and I noticed that on the culture map there are purple dashes on all of the Irish counties. How do I make my whole kingdom Ashkenazi? Does it just naturally happen after a while? Also is there any benefit to my kingdom becoming Ashkenazi? Thanks in advance! "
A:
"for county rulers with stewardship scores of 9 to 15, it could take on average from 75 years to 30 years.
for county rulers with stewardship scores lower than 5, it could take on average 100 to 500 years.
i don't know if the culture can change in the years outside of its 'average zone'. it could be impossible, or just really really unlikely.
you'll get lower revolt risk in each of your Ashkenazi provinces. "
A:
" " i don't know if the culture can change in the years outside of its 'average zone'. " "
It's possible via some events. "Civilized peasants" definitely, and I think your vassals can also have the "get some of the boys from back home" event.
Not all that common, but not extremely rare either.
You will sometimes see a county switching to your culture and religion within only a few years after the conquest. "
A:
" those events are what cause the culture of provinces to convert, and they have the same likeliness to happen (i.e. same factors / MTTH) as each other. when culture converts, it's because a character receives that event. "
Q:
"So would it be beneficial to try get vassals with good stewardship to get Ashkenazi culture? I've had a few revolts here and there but it's pretty minimal. "
A:
"Just make sure that you are landing those with your culture and preferably Midas touched or any other stewardship trait as it has a chance to base stewardship to their heirs "
Questioner to Answener:
"Okay, thank you for the advice!"
More Answers:
"all average means is that each month/year/day there is an x in y chance of conversion and that and 66 or 95% (1/2 sd deviations) chance that the conversion falls in this range I haven't looked at the actual code in a while but i think this is what happens "
"Because culture change is a character event, I would reckon that it would make sense that more characters = more culture change. If possible, grant foreign culture territories to a number of different Ashkenazi counts instead of giving it all to one duke "
"If you give a random courtier of your religion and culture all the titles in a duke dom he will start with no courtiers and create ones that share his religion and culture making your idea unnecessary (though having counts and duke vassels should make it go faster)"
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/2g9nrt/how_long_does_it_take_to_change_an_areas_culture/
1 April 2017 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey and jumping to Near future, (France: " The Revolution Will Not Be Vilified Civilized")
Near to the "birth of modern civilization"
in to what we are all forced up to now and let's not even go in to what is happening with these lands who wish to step back from this progress "but well, it is inside, they mostly all infiltrated.. the school system, media, clothing, ties... "
tanks are just for diversion so you would not understand the full directions of actual attack on your mind and soul at large.
Yea.. let's look how Great was the humans after 1700 years of Romans... and well.. will we stay as gra
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized
--
Civilized man still:
"I am said to be a revolutionist in my sympathies, by birth, by breeding and by principle. I am always on the side of the revolutionists, because there never was a revolution unless there were some oppressive and intolerable conditions against which to revolute."
— Mark Twain
--
considering:
".. No matter whose side you're on, it's sacrifice, honor, duty, and "shut up and follow orders!" They will usually be led by a rebel version of General Ripper, or possibly a subversion of that archetype. The more desperate the circumstances, the more brutal the rebels get; expect lots of Rape, Pillage, and Burn on any village that they even suspect isn't sympathetic to their cause, Cold-Blooded Torture and other forms of extreme cruelty towards POWs, and lots of Make an Example of Them to frighten those who are on the fence into supporting them, often in the form of horrifically brutal public executions. Depending on the nature of the conflict, genocide may or may not wind up entering the picture; if the ruling power is largely comprised of one specific ethnic or religious group, it's probably a safe bet that all members of that group will be targeted.
If you fall, another might rise to take your place, but don't expect your comrades-in-arms to mourn. You were dead already the moment you put on the rebel uniform. Remember that Failure Is the Only Option, and whatever you do, Do Not Go Gentle. If you are caught, you are on your own. You never existed. This is war, and people do things during war that can never, and should never be forgiven. Do you know whose side you are on now? Can lead to a violent ideological backlash against supporters of the old regime, as seen in history. But more importantly — more important because of the irony involved — it can lead to He Who Fights Monsters (i.e. the revolutionaries' brutality is no better than the Empire's) and also to violence against some of the revolutionaries themselves, often valiant leaders and close friends of near past, as in the most famous case of Georges Danton and Camille Desmoulins guillotined by orders of Robespierre and his Jacobins during the actual Reign of Terror. Robespierre tasted his own concoction later as of the Thermidorian Reaction.
The reasons and debate on whether revolutions have to be, or inevitably will be un-civilized are quite complex and a subject of study by many historians. Most revolutions do not happen in a vacuum of ideological freedom. Luck, chance and Realpolitik play a major role, and even the most severe revolutionaries like Che Guevara, Leon Trotsky or even Robespierre did not start out as politically radical to begin with, rather they radicalized as.."
// at some point reading this wiki it seemed like he had more coffee then i did ..
Near to the "birth of modern civilization"
in to what we are all forced up to now and let's not even go in to what is happening with these lands who wish to step back from this progress "but well, it is inside, they mostly all infiltrated.. the school system, media, clothing, ties... "
tanks are just for diversion so you would not understand the full directions of actual attack on your mind and soul at large.
Yea.. let's look how Great was the humans after 1700 years of Romans... and well.. will we stay as gra
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized
--
Civilized man still:
"I am said to be a revolutionist in my sympathies, by birth, by breeding and by principle. I am always on the side of the revolutionists, because there never was a revolution unless there were some oppressive and intolerable conditions against which to revolute."
— Mark Twain
--
considering:
".. No matter whose side you're on, it's sacrifice, honor, duty, and "shut up and follow orders!" They will usually be led by a rebel version of General Ripper, or possibly a subversion of that archetype. The more desperate the circumstances, the more brutal the rebels get; expect lots of Rape, Pillage, and Burn on any village that they even suspect isn't sympathetic to their cause, Cold-Blooded Torture and other forms of extreme cruelty towards POWs, and lots of Make an Example of Them to frighten those who are on the fence into supporting them, often in the form of horrifically brutal public executions. Depending on the nature of the conflict, genocide may or may not wind up entering the picture; if the ruling power is largely comprised of one specific ethnic or religious group, it's probably a safe bet that all members of that group will be targeted.
If you fall, another might rise to take your place, but don't expect your comrades-in-arms to mourn. You were dead already the moment you put on the rebel uniform. Remember that Failure Is the Only Option, and whatever you do, Do Not Go Gentle. If you are caught, you are on your own. You never existed. This is war, and people do things during war that can never, and should never be forgiven. Do you know whose side you are on now? Can lead to a violent ideological backlash against supporters of the old regime, as seen in history. But more importantly — more important because of the irony involved — it can lead to He Who Fights Monsters (i.e. the revolutionaries' brutality is no better than the Empire's) and also to violence against some of the revolutionaries themselves, often valiant leaders and close friends of near past, as in the most famous case of Georges Danton and Camille Desmoulins guillotined by orders of Robespierre and his Jacobins during the actual Reign of Terror. Robespierre tasted his own concoction later as of the Thermidorian Reaction.
The reasons and debate on whether revolutions have to be, or inevitably will be un-civilized are quite complex and a subject of study by many historians. Most revolutions do not happen in a vacuum of ideological freedom. Luck, chance and Realpolitik play a major role, and even the most severe revolutionaries like Che Guevara, Leon Trotsky or even Robespierre did not start out as politically radical to begin with, rather they radicalized as.."
// at some point reading this wiki it seemed like he had more coffee then i did ..
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized
1 April 2017 04:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and up to now ... after so many years of "progress" humans still build a boxes,now even more then before... they went specially far with it in soviet time try to make experiment technically HOW many people can you fit in one box and convince people inside it that this is good what they have and they lucky and make they them self wanting it (so later they would be on 90s pleased with own apartment..),
but yea, nothing so bad to mention here, normal... just when do we start to make buildings that support this kind of life what is needed for humans to feel their worth for what they come here for ?
" The construction industry would also require enormous numbers. For in a time without building machines, it would be simple manpower which would shift earth or break stones.
Architects and engineers, surveyors, foremen, sculptors, stonemasons, carpenters, bricklayers and simple day labourers. All these were necessary to build not merely grand monuments, but also the apartment blocks to house the masses, or the residences of the rich.
The cities and towns contained markets of all kinds, shops, inns and taverns, all in turn consuming raw materials or requiring agricultural produce which needed to be brought in from the countryside. "
// lets wonder how pyramids was done later on.. maybe even they did wonder.. for now we must wonder WHY we are allowed to build human known history MOST ugly and unimaginative mass buildings for people and force them to be stuck to it ... why... this is more mysterious why no one publicly talking about it then the pyramids .. perhaps
but yea, nothing so bad to mention here, normal... just when do we start to make buildings that support this kind of life what is needed for humans to feel their worth for what they come here for ?
" The construction industry would also require enormous numbers. For in a time without building machines, it would be simple manpower which would shift earth or break stones.
Architects and engineers, surveyors, foremen, sculptors, stonemasons, carpenters, bricklayers and simple day labourers. All these were necessary to build not merely grand monuments, but also the apartment blocks to house the masses, or the residences of the rich.
The cities and towns contained markets of all kinds, shops, inns and taverns, all in turn consuming raw materials or requiring agricultural produce which needed to be brought in from the countryside. "
// lets wonder how pyramids was done later on.. maybe even they did wonder.. for now we must wonder WHY we are allowed to build human known history MOST ugly and unimaginative mass buildings for people and force them to be stuck to it ... why... this is more mysterious why no one publicly talking about it then the pyramids .. perhaps
1 April 2017 03:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and from here, one point, we have managed to DE-evolve even from their old slave structure. As before disillusioned man citizens was expected to work six hours, and women did not work, and great empire was built, so called, ... and now, Women AND man, work 8 hours + all extra thinking about work and answering emails, + driving to work hour and back some places... and STILL this is so little,that nearly most of these"civilized" family people will start to feel "hard to get along" if only one side of household is slaving for money for a stranger, in most of the practical day.:
"A Roman would usually get up early and work a six hour day.
This of course was only the case for working men. Women stayed at home. Even the task of queuing for the tokens which granted a family its monthly grain dole was done by the men of the house. "
// so now there is 2 times MORE workers, 2 hours longer PER worker, and people live in more depth, an this called civilization, progress, advancement...
And i not even go in to these terrible box "houses" most living in a city. ... people even can not take time to build nicer looking prison box for them self...and lost the knowledge how to do it, why to do it and how to find finance and time for it.. this is how the computer and machine world has saved us, from what work , from what hard life it has saved most of the people? Most of the planet now is getting more food then before? Okey.. yea over population is to blame right.. specially in here, up north and in Americas and in other places... where people, women AND man work for strangers and feel tired MOST of the weekday's and not in pleasant "i had SO good working day ! Will take nice rest now, with smile " way...
well, yes not luckily in all places.. and same time there is places where the slavery of westerners 8 hours even looks like paradise. ... so yeah.. progress of literacy and all that, uh?
"A Roman would usually get up early and work a six hour day.
This of course was only the case for working men. Women stayed at home. Even the task of queuing for the tokens which granted a family its monthly grain dole was done by the men of the house. "
// so now there is 2 times MORE workers, 2 hours longer PER worker, and people live in more depth, an this called civilization, progress, advancement...
And i not even go in to these terrible box "houses" most living in a city. ... people even can not take time to build nicer looking prison box for them self...and lost the knowledge how to do it, why to do it and how to find finance and time for it.. this is how the computer and machine world has saved us, from what work , from what hard life it has saved most of the people? Most of the planet now is getting more food then before? Okey.. yea over population is to blame right.. specially in here, up north and in Americas and in other places... where people, women AND man work for strangers and feel tired MOST of the weekday's and not in pleasant "i had SO good working day ! Will take nice rest now, with smile " way...
well, yes not luckily in all places.. and same time there is places where the slavery of westerners 8 hours even looks like paradise. ... so yeah.. progress of literacy and all that, uh?
1 April 2017 03:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(about politicians... etc)
so seems not a evolution in here also:
"Also of course many saw their time abroad as a marvellous opportunity to enrich themselves off the backs of their helpless subjects.
But, if the provincia did offer immunity from prosecution then this only extended for one's time in office. Thereafter one could be prosecuted for one's misdemeanours.
And there was many a young man ready and waiting to make a name for himself by prosecuting a corrupt governor in the courts. "
so seems not a evolution in here also:
"Also of course many saw their time abroad as a marvellous opportunity to enrich themselves off the backs of their helpless subjects.
But, if the provincia did offer immunity from prosecution then this only extended for one's time in office. Thereafter one could be prosecuted for one's misdemeanours.
And there was many a young man ready and waiting to make a name for himself by prosecuting a corrupt governor in the courts. "
1 April 2017 03:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
well, so they kind had hard on for personal and for political power, looks like these kind are still among us, right now.. for sometime:
"The Roman passion for power is infamous. Latin even has two different words to describe a person's power; potentia for personal power and potestas or political power."
// perhaps some variations of powers has been added, but mostly they are under these 2 umbrellas, power for others to see and get off that even if you know you puppet behind a door (usually tools of dark) and power for self to enjoy behind a door even if no one knows (usually dark them self),
unfortunately the darker ones are harder to spot.. also because is a night ...
(video start, From Nature to the Dolls )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IyAGpooGko //dark reality, to integrate about these invaders...
"The Roman passion for power is infamous. Latin even has two different words to describe a person's power; potentia for personal power and potestas or political power."
// perhaps some variations of powers has been added, but mostly they are under these 2 umbrellas, power for others to see and get off that even if you know you puppet behind a door (usually tools of dark) and power for self to enjoy behind a door even if no one knows (usually dark them self),
unfortunately the darker ones are harder to spot.. also because is a night ...
(video start, From Nature to the Dolls )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IyAGpooGko //dark reality, to integrate about these invaders...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IyAGpooGko
1 April 2017 03:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
wait.. are we sure we talking about 2000year old structure that was built to be self evolving and becoming smarter, better, by the year.. :
" The great political clashes were hence only on the surface about ideology. In reality they were more about power than the public good. There were, to put it bluntly, no 'socialists' in Rome.
No one acted on behalf of the poor, but rather sought to gain poor votes.
If therefore the likes of the brothers Gracchus (populares) held grand passionate speeches which enthralled their audiences, these must be seen as well crafted speeches of great orators who could make their point brilliantly and persuasively. But one shouldn't therefore necessarily think that they were any less class conscious and aristocratic than any member of the optimates.
Some might argue that granting social rights to increasing numbers was a gradual, natural process, as new blood pushed into the positions of power, building and enlarging its own client system. The great politicians might far more have been playing a part in a great theatre play, fighting out their personal struggles for power, but playing their role as champions of a greater cause. "
" The great political clashes were hence only on the surface about ideology. In reality they were more about power than the public good. There were, to put it bluntly, no 'socialists' in Rome.
No one acted on behalf of the poor, but rather sought to gain poor votes.
If therefore the likes of the brothers Gracchus (populares) held grand passionate speeches which enthralled their audiences, these must be seen as well crafted speeches of great orators who could make their point brilliantly and persuasively. But one shouldn't therefore necessarily think that they were any less class conscious and aristocratic than any member of the optimates.
Some might argue that granting social rights to increasing numbers was a gradual, natural process, as new blood pushed into the positions of power, building and enlarging its own client system. The great politicians might far more have been playing a part in a great theatre play, fighting out their personal struggles for power, but playing their role as champions of a greater cause. "
1 April 2017 03:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i guess this issue still is kind of not solved, kind of like it was not meant to be.. i mean.. after 2000 years.. You would expect, if system is intelligent, self repairing, then these kind of holes in progress would have been abolished:
"The client system meant that Rome was never really a democracy. People voted at elections in accordance to their family loyalties. Political ideology didn't play a major role.
Though in the later stages of the republic - roughly from the days of the brothers Gracchus onwards - there were two political parties, the populares ('people's party') and the optimates ('senatorial party').
The populares were for the extension of citizenship to provincials, for the cancellation of debt, and for the distribution of land. The optimates were the opposing conservative force, defending the traditions of Rome and the existing order.
But this contest was far from being one between the poor and the rich
"The client system meant that Rome was never really a democracy. People voted at elections in accordance to their family loyalties. Political ideology didn't play a major role.
Though in the later stages of the republic - roughly from the days of the brothers Gracchus onwards - there were two political parties, the populares ('people's party') and the optimates ('senatorial party').
The populares were for the extension of citizenship to provincials, for the cancellation of debt, and for the distribution of land. The optimates were the opposing conservative force, defending the traditions of Rome and the existing order.
But this contest was far from being one between the poor and the rich
1 April 2017 03:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yes, this part, perhaps of-course, but for current situation, also mafia can not be condemned, unless they in to some Really sick things poisoning another spiritual level or causing moral downfall of "society"..: human species.. then yes, ordinary mafia, no need to touch now, they do their thing, first WE must get alright on everything we can and then see if there is still need for stepping on mafia toes:
"It remains to be said that the word patronus later became the Italian word padrino, the expression used to describe the godfather in the Mafia. And, on closer inspection, the Roman client system with its loyalty and solidarity does show many similarities to the Mafia. It is also telling that the Mafiosi refer to a common cause as 'la cosa nostra' (our cause) and regard themselves as family, 'la familia'.
"It remains to be said that the word patronus later became the Italian word padrino, the expression used to describe the godfather in the Mafia. And, on closer inspection, the Roman client system with its loyalty and solidarity does show many similarities to the Mafia. It is also telling that the Mafiosi refer to a common cause as 'la cosa nostra' (our cause) and regard themselves as family, 'la familia'.
1 April 2017 03:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
well, considering the situation i an kind of neutral about that point, but it seems it has dissolved in to many structures from masons to business to bank to police to..well, not taking negative smirk on this for now, as you can not force anyone to help the one who is considered unworthy by force or finance holder and still be truly considerate yourself:
" once the civil war began between Caesar and Pompey, Labienus had to change sides. For he was from Picenum, a town which was a client of Pompey's.
this goes to show that the client system could also be very much military in nature - at least during the days of the Roman republic.
A patron could raise an army, recruited from among his clients, if he had the means to maintain it. Or he could, should he desire, also create his own small force as a personal armed guard.
For this one needs to consider that, prior to the reign of Augustus, there was no such thing as a police force. A patron's armed guard might therefore be used to protect the patron as well as his clients.
The client system truly formed the foundations of the Roman state. It created stability, as of course the unwavering loyalty of clients could keep families in power for centuries.
But so too did it create a kind of welfare network in a state which largely hadn't the means to support the poor and deprived.
The client system surrounding a patron would look out for its individuals. They would act as a kind of police, making sure no harm came to their own, that nothing was stolen from them. should one be struck down by poverty, the other clients, - and so too most likely the patron, - would see to it that one would get a loan, a daughter might be provided with a dowry, or at least the group would see to it that the deceased would get a decent funeral.
If the patron might not always provide help personally, it would most often be he who orchestrated it, perhaps asking other clients to help out one of his supporters who had fallen upon hard times. But the wealth of most patrons of course allowed him to hand out money to those they deemed deserving of such aid. "
" once the civil war began between Caesar and Pompey, Labienus had to change sides. For he was from Picenum, a town which was a client of Pompey's.
this goes to show that the client system could also be very much military in nature - at least during the days of the Roman republic.
A patron could raise an army, recruited from among his clients, if he had the means to maintain it. Or he could, should he desire, also create his own small force as a personal armed guard.
For this one needs to consider that, prior to the reign of Augustus, there was no such thing as a police force. A patron's armed guard might therefore be used to protect the patron as well as his clients.
The client system truly formed the foundations of the Roman state. It created stability, as of course the unwavering loyalty of clients could keep families in power for centuries.
But so too did it create a kind of welfare network in a state which largely hadn't the means to support the poor and deprived.
The client system surrounding a patron would look out for its individuals. They would act as a kind of police, making sure no harm came to their own, that nothing was stolen from them. should one be struck down by poverty, the other clients, - and so too most likely the patron, - would see to it that one would get a loan, a daughter might be provided with a dowry, or at least the group would see to it that the deceased would get a decent funeral.
If the patron might not always provide help personally, it would most often be he who orchestrated it, perhaps asking other clients to help out one of his supporters who had fallen upon hard times. But the wealth of most patrons of course allowed him to hand out money to those they deemed deserving of such aid. "
1 April 2017 03:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
seems society has also not advanced to much out of these habits, i mean, for sure there is hundreds, perhaps thousands of people still left in your city who behave undeveloped way as:
" But in a society in which so much depended on the light in which others saw you, their view could not only elevate you, but so too it could destroy you.
Any news, be it good or bad, spread like wildfire in a society that spent much of the day gossiping in the public baths, or mingling at the forum. Graffiti was scribbled on walls, and in the inns drunken songs might ridicule the high and mighty. In the theatres actors would in their plays praise or deride public figures of the day.
And so Rome was a city of rumours, for the entertainment of the many and for the advancement of those whose worst fate could be, not to be talked about
" But in a society in which so much depended on the light in which others saw you, their view could not only elevate you, but so too it could destroy you.
Any news, be it good or bad, spread like wildfire in a society that spent much of the day gossiping in the public baths, or mingling at the forum. Graffiti was scribbled on walls, and in the inns drunken songs might ridicule the high and mighty. In the theatres actors would in their plays praise or deride public figures of the day.
And so Rome was a city of rumours, for the entertainment of the many and for the advancement of those whose worst fate could be, not to be talked about
1 April 2017 03:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and even that sounds kind of familiar, just now besides senate You got also option to be CEO or a some other toy fürer wearing tie:
"One needs also to consider that Romans didn't know of modern day psychology and hence did not analyze their thoughts and feelings. They looked not inwards but to others to understand themselves. For it was the opinion of others which dictated the opinion a Roman ultimately held of himself.
'A good man' was hence a man deemed worthy by others, a man deemed honourable. But so too, in the Roman mind set honourable was only what was actually honoured. Glory or honour were also measured only in the recognition it drew from others.
Great, noble deeds might be done, but without people knowing of them there was no glory, no fame and no advantage to be gained from them.
And to Romans the only advantage to be gained from glory and honour was to use it to climb the social ladder. Any credit among one's fellow men gained by one's ability, either in office or on the battlefield, was immediately used to further one's political fortunes; all in the hope of finally achieving that distant goal - a seat in the Roman senate.
"
// well.. "modern day" psychology and looking in ward is another thing to stop for, another time
"One needs also to consider that Romans didn't know of modern day psychology and hence did not analyze their thoughts and feelings. They looked not inwards but to others to understand themselves. For it was the opinion of others which dictated the opinion a Roman ultimately held of himself.
'A good man' was hence a man deemed worthy by others, a man deemed honourable. But so too, in the Roman mind set honourable was only what was actually honoured. Glory or honour were also measured only in the recognition it drew from others.
Great, noble deeds might be done, but without people knowing of them there was no glory, no fame and no advantage to be gained from them.
And to Romans the only advantage to be gained from glory and honour was to use it to climb the social ladder. Any credit among one's fellow men gained by one's ability, either in office or on the battlefield, was immediately used to further one's political fortunes; all in the hope of finally achieving that distant goal - a seat in the Roman senate.
"
// well.. "modern day" psychology and looking in ward is another thing to stop for, another time
1 April 2017 03:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and i think we still have some of that in some parts of world, after 2ooo years of "advancing" :
"But the wealthy would stay well clear of the district east of the Forum known as the subura. This was the poorer part of Rome, not merely housing the less fortunate, but also the many prostitutes of the city.
The narrow alleys were notoriously dangerous to any stranger, with many criminals waiting to rob the purse of a hapless stranger.
This is not to say that the subura was dangerous to all. There was indeed some distinguished patricians living there. Julius Caesar, for example, lived there, until he became pontifex maximus.
Though it was clear to all not be venture into certain parts of the subura, and particularly not to go there when darkness began to set. "
"But the wealthy would stay well clear of the district east of the Forum known as the subura. This was the poorer part of Rome, not merely housing the less fortunate, but also the many prostitutes of the city.
The narrow alleys were notoriously dangerous to any stranger, with many criminals waiting to rob the purse of a hapless stranger.
This is not to say that the subura was dangerous to all. There was indeed some distinguished patricians living there. Julius Caesar, for example, lived there, until he became pontifex maximus.
Though it was clear to all not be venture into certain parts of the subura, and particularly not to go there when darkness began to set. "
1 April 2017 03:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yea, the simple poor people stuff like vegetables, ordinary no important goods, just for keeping us alive.. but the luxury..
"To the east lay the poor man's market of Rome in the quarter of the subura, no selling foods more suited to those with limited money, like simple vegetables and chickens.
To the south of the Forum lay the velabrum, the general market, the forum boarium and the forum cuppedinis, the market for luxury goods. These were huge markets, feeding the greatest city of the world. "
"To the east lay the poor man's market of Rome in the quarter of the subura, no selling foods more suited to those with limited money, like simple vegetables and chickens.
To the south of the Forum lay the velabrum, the general market, the forum boarium and the forum cuppedinis, the market for luxury goods. These were huge markets, feeding the greatest city of the world. "
1 April 2017 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Wonder, is that sounding still familiar after 2 thousand years.. we still not evolved much, uh, still to civilized and hairless?
" The civilized City
The entire concept of Roman life seemed to center around the city, be this the city of Rome itself or any other town.
The countryside was a nice place to retire to for a while in order to stay in touch with nature. Yet it was seen as an unsuitable place for a true citizen. Romans were after all social creatures, which craved being part of a society.
The truly civilized citizen had to be more than educated or successful. "
" The civilized City
The entire concept of Roman life seemed to center around the city, be this the city of Rome itself or any other town.
The countryside was a nice place to retire to for a while in order to stay in touch with nature. Yet it was seen as an unsuitable place for a true citizen. Romans were after all social creatures, which craved being part of a society.
The truly civilized citizen had to be more than educated or successful. "
1 April 2017 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
well.. i hear now people are no more civilized.. in fact, many parts of world, people still get arrested or their kids taken away, if You choose NOT to register yourself or choose NOT to go to education institution, in Soviet time You was also going to be arrested if You not working (for state, having your self sustainable farm or rich parents did not count ).
I heard.. there is so robotic lands still who do not allow you and your loved one to have child when and where you want, even if All life requirements like house, food, farm or whatever is filled, You must go and stamp them.
Well, at least, in Estonia you get nice @Eesti email with Your forced identity.
I heard.. there is so robotic lands still who do not allow you and your loved one to have child when and where you want, even if All life requirements like house, food, farm or whatever is filled, You must go and stamp them.
Well, at least, in Estonia you get nice @Eesti email with Your forced identity.
1 April 2017 02:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"In the beginning was the census.
Every five years, each male Roman citizen had to register in Rome for the census. In this he had to declare his family, wife, children, slaves and riches. Should he fail to do this, his possessions would be confiscated and he would be sold into slavery.
But registration meant freedom. A master wishing to free his slave needed only to enter him in the censor's list as a citizen (manumissio censu).
Throughout the entire republican era, registration in the census was the only way that a Roman could ensure that his identity and status as a citizen were recognized. Fathers registered their sons, employers their freedmen.
Primarily the census served to count the number of citizens and to assess the potential military strength and future tax revenue. Most important, the census transformed the city into a political and military community.
But the census performed a highly symbolical function. To the Romans the census made them more than a mere crowd, or barbarian rabble. It made them a populus, a people, capable of collective action.
To the Roman the census was one of the foundation stones of their civilization. "
http://www.roman-empire.net/society/society.html
Every five years, each male Roman citizen had to register in Rome for the census. In this he had to declare his family, wife, children, slaves and riches. Should he fail to do this, his possessions would be confiscated and he would be sold into slavery.
But registration meant freedom. A master wishing to free his slave needed only to enter him in the censor's list as a citizen (manumissio censu).
Throughout the entire republican era, registration in the census was the only way that a Roman could ensure that his identity and status as a citizen were recognized. Fathers registered their sons, employers their freedmen.
Primarily the census served to count the number of citizens and to assess the potential military strength and future tax revenue. Most important, the census transformed the city into a political and military community.
But the census performed a highly symbolical function. To the Romans the census made them more than a mere crowd, or barbarian rabble. It made them a populus, a people, capable of collective action.
To the Roman the census was one of the foundation stones of their civilization. "
http://www.roman-empire.net/society/society.html
http://www.roman-empire.net/society/society.html
1 April 2017 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Seems like being civilized did not help Etruscan case so much
in fact, might just have been their last nail in coffin
to look from another way..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscan_civilization
in fact, might just have been their last nail in coffin
to look from another way..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscan_civilization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscan_civilization
1 April 2017 02:46
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=597526760453832&set=a.100887666784413.1073741827.100005895391312&type=3&theater
1 April 2017 01:01
Margus Meigo commented on Ground Zero with Clyde Lewis's link.
You in this story go in to doing what you talk about a bit..
31 March 2017 23:54
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
to know or not to know 5 okeans is irrelevant compared to what you know related to these waters what is needed ... what lives in there.. how it tastes...
www.oceanconservancy.org
www.oceanconservancy.org
http://www.oceanconservancy.org/
31 March 2017 23:47
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
u know information memorizing for me is no so great thing to hype about.. but what we do with what we know...
teada tervet eksüklopeediat ja seda mitte kasutada on kasutu
teada tervet eksüklopeediat ja seda mitte kasutada on kasutu
31 March 2017 23:45
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
in another life time, will let these bros to do their thing
31 March 2017 23:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
also interesting thread in here in a way https://soundcloud.com/sciseeker138/comments
https://soundcloud.com/sciseeker138/comments
31 March 2017 22:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and all this audio effects in beginning, is it needed?
(skip first few minutes then it starts)
anyway, look the comments also on audio at first :
https://soundcloud.com/groundzeromedia/a2016-6-15
love someone else care to bring up KGB fake Zion protcols
(skip first few minutes then it starts)
anyway, look the comments also on audio at first :
https://soundcloud.com/groundzeromedia/a2016-6-15
love someone else care to bring up KGB fake Zion protcols
31 March 2017 22:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
encapsulated..
" The reason this is so is because the official narrative of the massacre and the motives behind it was neatly encapsulated by a New York Times report on June 13:
“Mr. Mateen called 911, beginning a series of calls and conversations with the police, in which he declared allegiance to the Islamic State, the terrorist group that has taken over parts of Syria, Iraq and Libya.” “He was cool and calm when he was making those phone calls to us,” Chief [John] Mina said. “We had a team of crisis negotiators that did talk to the suspect, just trying to get as much information as possible, and they focused on what they could do to resolve the situation.”
So why else would the Orlando Police Department refuse to release the audio of Mateen’s alleged call to 911?
After all the police provided details of the conversation to journalists so what is the problem? The Problem is that they don’t want to be made to look like fools and be caught pushing agitation propaganda for an agenda.
The reports of his support for ISIS provide militaristic politicians from both parties an irresistible opportunity to push a war footing. It also gives both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton talking points.
A closer look at the available information about Mateen’s personal history demonstrates a more complex set of possible factors behind his killing rampage. Mateen did not receive training from any Islamic extremist organization, however, he was a longtime employee of G4S, a private security firm and prison provider with a record of human rights abuses that spans across the globe. Mateen’s ex-wife, Sitora Yusufiy, has detailed physical and emotional abuse at the killer’s hands, referring to him as “disturbed” saying her family had to rescue her in 2009 after he held her “hostage.”
At least four Pulse patrons told the Orlando Sentinel they had seen Mateen at the club before on numerous occasions, and Yusufiy has stated that she believes that Mateen was sexually attracted to men. Meanwhile, Mateen’s father told NBC that his son become “very angry” after seeing two men kissing.
It also was confirmed that in addition to two investigations and two interviews, Florida terror suspect Omar Mateen was also approached by “informants” working for the US Federal Bureau of Investigation over a period of 10 months.
FBI investigators introduced him to confidential informants, spied on his communications and followed him.
The significance of this cannot be understated. “Informants” in this context, according to FBI affidavits regarding similar counterterrorism investigations, refers to individuals posing as members of terrorist organizations who approach suspects, coerce them into planning and preparing for terrorist attacks, before finally aiding the FBI in the suspect’s arrest before the attack is finally carried out.
Among the activities these informants carry out includes providing and training suspects in the use of real explosives, providing suspects with arsenals of weapons precisely like those used in the recent shooting.
The narrative is certainly pulling the strings to create agitation propaganda. Facts and the media no longer congruently connect. The public opinion is based on who controls the story — they give a confusing narrative of doublespeak and in the process, make the entire incident about the political ramifications and not about the victims or their families. It is now becoming evident that mass shootings are becoming cultural manifestations with an overtly political purpose.
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// so did this post do it it self what was told ?
" The reason this is so is because the official narrative of the massacre and the motives behind it was neatly encapsulated by a New York Times report on June 13:
“Mr. Mateen called 911, beginning a series of calls and conversations with the police, in which he declared allegiance to the Islamic State, the terrorist group that has taken over parts of Syria, Iraq and Libya.” “He was cool and calm when he was making those phone calls to us,” Chief [John] Mina said. “We had a team of crisis negotiators that did talk to the suspect, just trying to get as much information as possible, and they focused on what they could do to resolve the situation.”
So why else would the Orlando Police Department refuse to release the audio of Mateen’s alleged call to 911?
After all the police provided details of the conversation to journalists so what is the problem? The Problem is that they don’t want to be made to look like fools and be caught pushing agitation propaganda for an agenda.
The reports of his support for ISIS provide militaristic politicians from both parties an irresistible opportunity to push a war footing. It also gives both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton talking points.
A closer look at the available information about Mateen’s personal history demonstrates a more complex set of possible factors behind his killing rampage. Mateen did not receive training from any Islamic extremist organization, however, he was a longtime employee of G4S, a private security firm and prison provider with a record of human rights abuses that spans across the globe. Mateen’s ex-wife, Sitora Yusufiy, has detailed physical and emotional abuse at the killer’s hands, referring to him as “disturbed” saying her family had to rescue her in 2009 after he held her “hostage.”
At least four Pulse patrons told the Orlando Sentinel they had seen Mateen at the club before on numerous occasions, and Yusufiy has stated that she believes that Mateen was sexually attracted to men. Meanwhile, Mateen’s father told NBC that his son become “very angry” after seeing two men kissing.
It also was confirmed that in addition to two investigations and two interviews, Florida terror suspect Omar Mateen was also approached by “informants” working for the US Federal Bureau of Investigation over a period of 10 months.
FBI investigators introduced him to confidential informants, spied on his communications and followed him.
The significance of this cannot be understated. “Informants” in this context, according to FBI affidavits regarding similar counterterrorism investigations, refers to individuals posing as members of terrorist organizations who approach suspects, coerce them into planning and preparing for terrorist attacks, before finally aiding the FBI in the suspect’s arrest before the attack is finally carried out.
Among the activities these informants carry out includes providing and training suspects in the use of real explosives, providing suspects with arsenals of weapons precisely like those used in the recent shooting.
The narrative is certainly pulling the strings to create agitation propaganda. Facts and the media no longer congruently connect. The public opinion is based on who controls the story — they give a confusing narrative of doublespeak and in the process, make the entire incident about the political ramifications and not about the victims or their families. It is now becoming evident that mass shootings are becoming cultural manifestations with an overtly political purpose.
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// so did this post do it it self what was told ?
31 March 2017 22:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and he keeps up the topic, that is way longer in some way then needed, or maybe just needed to go in it more to feel it :
"Because in the case of the Orlando shooting it’s quite obvious that the use of the word “terrorism” has a consistent application: It means, overwhelmingly, and in most cases acts of violence committed by Enemies of the State and Muslims or those that appear to target the government—as many media confidently portrayed the nightclub attack, even thought the narrative became more complicated as details of Mateen’s life and the massacre unraveled – revealing that he was gay, violent, was under the watch of the FBI and had no ties to ISIS.
If you really want to see just how effective agitprop is – you can look into the case of James Wesley Howell –many Americans have no idea who he is. He was a heavily armed man that arrived in Los Angeles to attend the Santa Monica Gay pride parade the same morning as the Orlando shooting. He arrived there to massacre homosexuals. Howell was quickly identified as a white man, distanced from the Orlando attacks, and treated very differently by the news media. Was he there to commit a hate crime—was he a terrorist? The media didn’t say anything that would trigger any interest because agitprop was not used.
The Daily Mail said that while Howell’s car was filled with “three rifles, a substantial amount of ammunition and 5 lb of mixed Tannerite powder, which can be used to make a pipe bomb,” and while Howell was “on the way to the LA Pride event to meet a friend, and ‘wanted to harm’ people there,” authorities “were still trying to establish Howell’s motives.”
Really?
Howell’s ethnicity and lack of ties to the Orlando shooting and Islam made his potential attack a non-story, despite him being heavily armed and ready to cause the same levels of carnage as Mateen. Social media accounts for major news organizations outside of LA almost exclusively referred to Howell as a “heavily armed man,” and most organizations mentioned his arrest only once on social media, if at all. Using this example we find that when people who wish to use violence against innocent people are unidentified, they are referred to as “shooters” and their actions as “attacks” or, in the case of Orlando, as “shootings.”
This manipulation of language by news media has shown quite clearly that the term “terrorism” refers not to the acts themselves, but rather to the ethnicity and the specifically defined ideology of the perpetrators of the attacks.
It is also interesting to note that he Orlando Police Department informed the media that Mateen had sworn allegiance to ISIS in a call to its 911 emergency line. This single detail became the focus of all the coverage that followed, prompting politicians from Hillary Clinton to Donald Trump and a parade of pundits to call for stepped up military efforts and hard line measures against Muslim-American communities.
As scrutiny of the Orlando Police Department’s response to the shooting spree intensified and Mateen’s profile grew more complex with each new detail, the department has now to refused release the audio of the killer’s alleged 911 call.
This indicates that Mateen probably said nothing about ISIS In his call. The claim is classic agitprop.
"Because in the case of the Orlando shooting it’s quite obvious that the use of the word “terrorism” has a consistent application: It means, overwhelmingly, and in most cases acts of violence committed by Enemies of the State and Muslims or those that appear to target the government—as many media confidently portrayed the nightclub attack, even thought the narrative became more complicated as details of Mateen’s life and the massacre unraveled – revealing that he was gay, violent, was under the watch of the FBI and had no ties to ISIS.
If you really want to see just how effective agitprop is – you can look into the case of James Wesley Howell –many Americans have no idea who he is. He was a heavily armed man that arrived in Los Angeles to attend the Santa Monica Gay pride parade the same morning as the Orlando shooting. He arrived there to massacre homosexuals. Howell was quickly identified as a white man, distanced from the Orlando attacks, and treated very differently by the news media. Was he there to commit a hate crime—was he a terrorist? The media didn’t say anything that would trigger any interest because agitprop was not used.
The Daily Mail said that while Howell’s car was filled with “three rifles, a substantial amount of ammunition and 5 lb of mixed Tannerite powder, which can be used to make a pipe bomb,” and while Howell was “on the way to the LA Pride event to meet a friend, and ‘wanted to harm’ people there,” authorities “were still trying to establish Howell’s motives.”
Really?
Howell’s ethnicity and lack of ties to the Orlando shooting and Islam made his potential attack a non-story, despite him being heavily armed and ready to cause the same levels of carnage as Mateen. Social media accounts for major news organizations outside of LA almost exclusively referred to Howell as a “heavily armed man,” and most organizations mentioned his arrest only once on social media, if at all. Using this example we find that when people who wish to use violence against innocent people are unidentified, they are referred to as “shooters” and their actions as “attacks” or, in the case of Orlando, as “shootings.”
This manipulation of language by news media has shown quite clearly that the term “terrorism” refers not to the acts themselves, but rather to the ethnicity and the specifically defined ideology of the perpetrators of the attacks.
It is also interesting to note that he Orlando Police Department informed the media that Mateen had sworn allegiance to ISIS in a call to its 911 emergency line. This single detail became the focus of all the coverage that followed, prompting politicians from Hillary Clinton to Donald Trump and a parade of pundits to call for stepped up military efforts and hard line measures against Muslim-American communities.
As scrutiny of the Orlando Police Department’s response to the shooting spree intensified and Mateen’s profile grew more complex with each new detail, the department has now to refused release the audio of the killer’s alleged 911 call.
This indicates that Mateen probably said nothing about ISIS In his call. The claim is classic agitprop.
31 March 2017 22:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And then while it is doing this and some other-thing it self same time, counting the words of shooting and terrorism in here is to many.. (and how we know now what part is copy from other parts?):
" News coverage of the attacks was at first highly-buffered because the place where the shooting took place was a predominantly gay nightclub. The politically correct “speak” was used in order to not offend the general public. Then we started to see the corporate media used specific vocabulary to manipulate public perceptions and perpetuate harmful stereotypes including using words to engender division and anger.
In the early hours of June 12, as reports poured in about a shooting at a gay nightclub in Orlando, news outlets were reluctant to characterize the incident beyond calling it an act of violence. They were also not using the term “gay” nightclub.
With little information beyond “a shooting” has left a number of people of dead in a nightclub,” the Twitter accounts of major media outlets used the contextually neutral language of “shooting” and “nightclub” to describe the situation.
Early in the morning, law enforcement had already alerted the media and the public to the fact that they were treating the event as an act of terror. The media chose not to report about the initial police report. They kept everything neutral it was just a shooting in a night club.
5761c721c46188346f8b45bb
Chances are in the early morning hours reporters on the scene wanted to be neutral until they got word from their news directors about how to approach the story and what words are to be used to generate agitating propaganda. Once the shooter was identified as Omar Mateen, a US citizen of Afghan descent, the narrative changed. After his Middle Eastern ethnicity was revealed, news media began calling the attack an act of terror.
The words domestic terror spread throughout the media. Terrorist is a powerful word now, and it is so powerful and misunderstood that it has become the de facto term used to describe any shooter or bomber that happens to be Middle Eastern. It certainly has not applied in the past to people like Dylan Roof the young man who shot and killed 9 people in a Charleston church. Robert Dear, a man who claimed to be a Christian and extremely evangelistic, shot up a Colorado Planned Parenthood. He, like Omar Mateen the Orlando shooter, was said to have been an angry and occasionally violent man who seemed deeply disturbed and deeply contradictory: He was a man of religious conviction – but sinned openly. He killed three people and injured nine people. He could have been termed a religious extremist or even a terrorist – he wasn’t.
The words “terrorism” and “terrorist” are convenient political terms that are used only when it is convenient to force multiply an intense crisis or situation. For example the Ammon Bundy who led the occupation of the Wildlife refuge in Oregon was called a terrorist and so were his followers. Not one those men committed an act of terror, but the word was used as agitprop. The media succeeded in demonizing these men as Lavoy Finnicum one of the men in the group was gunned down by police was being called a thug and a criminal and that he deserved what he got. The attempt to call American ranchers terrorists broke form protocol – mainly because arguably the men were pro gun and pro constitution.
" News coverage of the attacks was at first highly-buffered because the place where the shooting took place was a predominantly gay nightclub. The politically correct “speak” was used in order to not offend the general public. Then we started to see the corporate media used specific vocabulary to manipulate public perceptions and perpetuate harmful stereotypes including using words to engender division and anger.
In the early hours of June 12, as reports poured in about a shooting at a gay nightclub in Orlando, news outlets were reluctant to characterize the incident beyond calling it an act of violence. They were also not using the term “gay” nightclub.
With little information beyond “a shooting” has left a number of people of dead in a nightclub,” the Twitter accounts of major media outlets used the contextually neutral language of “shooting” and “nightclub” to describe the situation.
Early in the morning, law enforcement had already alerted the media and the public to the fact that they were treating the event as an act of terror. The media chose not to report about the initial police report. They kept everything neutral it was just a shooting in a night club.
5761c721c46188346f8b45bb
Chances are in the early morning hours reporters on the scene wanted to be neutral until they got word from their news directors about how to approach the story and what words are to be used to generate agitating propaganda. Once the shooter was identified as Omar Mateen, a US citizen of Afghan descent, the narrative changed. After his Middle Eastern ethnicity was revealed, news media began calling the attack an act of terror.
The words domestic terror spread throughout the media. Terrorist is a powerful word now, and it is so powerful and misunderstood that it has become the de facto term used to describe any shooter or bomber that happens to be Middle Eastern. It certainly has not applied in the past to people like Dylan Roof the young man who shot and killed 9 people in a Charleston church. Robert Dear, a man who claimed to be a Christian and extremely evangelistic, shot up a Colorado Planned Parenthood. He, like Omar Mateen the Orlando shooter, was said to have been an angry and occasionally violent man who seemed deeply disturbed and deeply contradictory: He was a man of religious conviction – but sinned openly. He killed three people and injured nine people. He could have been termed a religious extremist or even a terrorist – he wasn’t.
The words “terrorism” and “terrorist” are convenient political terms that are used only when it is convenient to force multiply an intense crisis or situation. For example the Ammon Bundy who led the occupation of the Wildlife refuge in Oregon was called a terrorist and so were his followers. Not one those men committed an act of terror, but the word was used as agitprop. The media succeeded in demonizing these men as Lavoy Finnicum one of the men in the group was gunned down by police was being called a thug and a criminal and that he deserved what he got. The attempt to call American ranchers terrorists broke form protocol – mainly because arguably the men were pro gun and pro constitution.
31 March 2017 22:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// and in side hes own talk he copy pasted text from the Britannica or was he who copy it there, anyway would have been nice to mention the Source or to make mark about it, what is not your own words:
"It is what Orwell called, “doublespeak,” or speech with a double meaning and a double strategy aimed at the emotional centers of the brain.
The twin strategies of agitation and propaganda were originally elaborated by the Marxist theorist Georgy Plekhanov, who defined propaganda as the promulgation of a number of ideas to an individual or small group and agitation as the promulgation of a single idea to a large mass of people.
Expanding on these notions in his pamphlet, What Is to Be Done? (1902), Vladimir Lenin stated that the propagandist, whose primary medium is print, explains the causes of social inequities such as unemployment or hunger, while the agitator, whose primary medium is speech, seizes on the emotional aspects of these issues to arouse his audience to indignation or action.
Agitation is thus the use of political slogans and half-truths to exploit the grievances of the public and thereby to mold public opinion and mobilize public support. Propaganda, by contrast, is the reasoned use of historical and scientific arguments to indoctrinate the educated and so-called “enlightened” members of society, such as party members.
The term, agitprop, originated as a shortened form of the Agitation and Propaganda Section of the Central Committee Secretariat of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union. This department of the Central Committee was established in the early 1920s and was responsible for determining the content of all official information, overseeing political education in schools, watching over all forms of mass communication, and mobilizing public support for party programs.
Every unit of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union, from the republic to the local-party level, had an agitprop section; at the local level, agitators (party-trained spokesmen) were the chief points of contact between the party and the public.
Modern agitprop is still being used in political speeches and now it is also being used in the media to mold and shape an event so that the public perception is one of agitation and indignance.
The perfect time to use agitprop is during a nationwide tragedy, especially when the tragedy is to be exploited for political action and a strategy of tension.
Let’s use the latest shooting in Orlando as our blueprint to demonstrate how the media uses classic agitprop.
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You see, did You see from start to end, where in this talk was the Britannica section and where he's own words?
"It is what Orwell called, “doublespeak,” or speech with a double meaning and a double strategy aimed at the emotional centers of the brain.
The twin strategies of agitation and propaganda were originally elaborated by the Marxist theorist Georgy Plekhanov, who defined propaganda as the promulgation of a number of ideas to an individual or small group and agitation as the promulgation of a single idea to a large mass of people.
Expanding on these notions in his pamphlet, What Is to Be Done? (1902), Vladimir Lenin stated that the propagandist, whose primary medium is print, explains the causes of social inequities such as unemployment or hunger, while the agitator, whose primary medium is speech, seizes on the emotional aspects of these issues to arouse his audience to indignation or action.
Agitation is thus the use of political slogans and half-truths to exploit the grievances of the public and thereby to mold public opinion and mobilize public support. Propaganda, by contrast, is the reasoned use of historical and scientific arguments to indoctrinate the educated and so-called “enlightened” members of society, such as party members.
The term, agitprop, originated as a shortened form of the Agitation and Propaganda Section of the Central Committee Secretariat of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union. This department of the Central Committee was established in the early 1920s and was responsible for determining the content of all official information, overseeing political education in schools, watching over all forms of mass communication, and mobilizing public support for party programs.
Every unit of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union, from the republic to the local-party level, had an agitprop section; at the local level, agitators (party-trained spokesmen) were the chief points of contact between the party and the public.
Modern agitprop is still being used in political speeches and now it is also being used in the media to mold and shape an event so that the public perception is one of agitation and indignance.
The perfect time to use agitprop is during a nationwide tragedy, especially when the tragedy is to be exploited for political action and a strategy of tension.
Let’s use the latest shooting in Orlando as our blueprint to demonstrate how the media uses classic agitprop.
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You see, did You see from start to end, where in this talk was the Britannica section and where he's own words?
31 March 2017 22:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I like this guy thinking, he thinks far ahead, in clear:
"We live in a world of short-term memories and long-term memory deficiencies
"Very few average people have the discipline to check their views and beliefs with the criteria of consistency. The average person when listening to proposed authority needs to also internally decide if any claim that has been made provides verifiable documentation to your satisfaction. Do all of the pieces of information provided fit the dialogue and time line provided? "
--
If they do not then do you reject the claim or do you investigate further? The average person will not even go that far. While the experiences of the world differ do you still decide that what you have seen in the narrative is reality?
Now here is a perception test.
President Obama in a speech he gave to the victims of the Roseburg, Oregon shooting and he said something that I think most people glossed over.
Barack Obama, Larry Rich, Kate Brown
He stated something ominous.
He said that the “routine” nature of mass shootings in America will continue unless the country’s politics change.
Now you can interpret it the way you like and I am sure that you will interpret its meaning based on your political bias. However, if you strip away the assumed context of his comments base on political bias you may well see it as a threat.
You may see it as totalitarian speak or Agitprop.
Agitprop is a term taken from the old Russian strategy of double meaning and the use of magic words, or words that the public are used to hearing and really do not know their meaning or intent.
To some Obama’s “routine” comment was innocuous to others it sounded like a threat that if his gun control measures are not ratified the body count will rise.
Agitprop or agitation propaganda has been called totalitarian speak as it was used primarily during the time of Karl Marx in order to bolster Marxist techniques and philosophies.
http://www.groundzeromedia.org/2016/06/15/615-agitprop-how-to-speak-totalitarian/
"We live in a world of short-term memories and long-term memory deficiencies
"Very few average people have the discipline to check their views and beliefs with the criteria of consistency. The average person when listening to proposed authority needs to also internally decide if any claim that has been made provides verifiable documentation to your satisfaction. Do all of the pieces of information provided fit the dialogue and time line provided? "
--
If they do not then do you reject the claim or do you investigate further? The average person will not even go that far. While the experiences of the world differ do you still decide that what you have seen in the narrative is reality?
Now here is a perception test.
President Obama in a speech he gave to the victims of the Roseburg, Oregon shooting and he said something that I think most people glossed over.
Barack Obama, Larry Rich, Kate Brown
He stated something ominous.
He said that the “routine” nature of mass shootings in America will continue unless the country’s politics change.
Now you can interpret it the way you like and I am sure that you will interpret its meaning based on your political bias. However, if you strip away the assumed context of his comments base on political bias you may well see it as a threat.
You may see it as totalitarian speak or Agitprop.
Agitprop is a term taken from the old Russian strategy of double meaning and the use of magic words, or words that the public are used to hearing and really do not know their meaning or intent.
To some Obama’s “routine” comment was innocuous to others it sounded like a threat that if his gun control measures are not ratified the body count will rise.
Agitprop or agitation propaganda has been called totalitarian speak as it was used primarily during the time of Karl Marx in order to bolster Marxist techniques and philosophies.
http://www.groundzeromedia.org/2016/06/15/615-agitprop-how-to-speak-totalitarian/
http://www.groundzeromedia.org/2016/06/15/615-agitprop-how-to-speak-totalitarian/
31 March 2017 22:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
with 3 hour, 14 views only.
Me cooking got much more by that time, wonder what is wrong,
Me cooking got much more by that time, wonder what is wrong,
31 March 2017 22:35
Margus Meigo commented on Laurie Franklin's post.
comrades indeed
31 March 2017 22:33
Margus Meigo replied to Dylan Snyder's comment.
they even start to threaten, that they will come and ....your family if you not do it... in these games.... dark stuff kids get involved early these days
31 March 2017 22:16
Margus Meigo replied to Dylan Snyder's comment.
is popular in our russia sida, the suicide game,
and another one where who get done selfie most near on coming train
etc
and another one where who get done selfie most near on coming train
etc
31 March 2017 22:15
Margus Meigo commented on Ash Grimshaw's post.
You are slightly on the side of "anti mainstream" i can see right
31 March 2017 22:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Britannica
Agitprop, abbreviated from Russian agitatsiya propaganda (agitation propaganda), political strategy in which the techniques of agitation and propaganda are used to influence and mobilize public opinion. Although the strategy is common, both the label and an obsession with it were specific to the Marxism practiced by communists in the Soviet Union.
The twin strategies of agitation and propaganda were originally elaborated by the Marxist theorist Georgy Plekhanov, who defined propaganda as the promulgation of a number of ideas to an individual or small group and agitation as the promulgation of a single idea to a large mass of people. Expanding on these notions in his pamphlet What Is to Be Done? (1902), Vladimir Lenin stated that the propagandist, whose primary medium is print, explains the causes of social inequities such as unemployment or hunger, while the agitator, whose primary medium is speech, seizes on the emotional aspects of these issues to arouse his audience to indignation or action. Agitation is thus the use of political slogans and half-truths to exploit the grievances of the public and thereby to mold public opinion and mobilize public support. Propaganda, by contrast, is the reasoned use of historical and scientific arguments to indoctrinate the educated and so-called “enlightened” members of society, such as party members.
The term agitprop originated as a shortened form of the Agitation and Propaganda Section of the Central Committee Secretariat of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union. This department of the Central Committee was established in the early 1920s and was responsible for determining the content of all official information, overseeing political education in schools, watching over all forms of mass communication, and mobilizing public support for party programs. Every unit of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union, from the republic to the local-party level, had an agitprop section; at the local level, agitators (party-trained spokesmen) were the chief points of contact between the party and the public.
The word agitprop is used in English to describe such departments and, by extension, any work, especially in the theatre, that aims to educate and indoctrinate the public. It typically has a negative connotation, reflecting Western distaste for the overt use of drama and other art forms to achieve political goals.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/agitprop
Agitprop, abbreviated from Russian agitatsiya propaganda (agitation propaganda), political strategy in which the techniques of agitation and propaganda are used to influence and mobilize public opinion. Although the strategy is common, both the label and an obsession with it were specific to the Marxism practiced by communists in the Soviet Union.
The twin strategies of agitation and propaganda were originally elaborated by the Marxist theorist Georgy Plekhanov, who defined propaganda as the promulgation of a number of ideas to an individual or small group and agitation as the promulgation of a single idea to a large mass of people. Expanding on these notions in his pamphlet What Is to Be Done? (1902), Vladimir Lenin stated that the propagandist, whose primary medium is print, explains the causes of social inequities such as unemployment or hunger, while the agitator, whose primary medium is speech, seizes on the emotional aspects of these issues to arouse his audience to indignation or action. Agitation is thus the use of political slogans and half-truths to exploit the grievances of the public and thereby to mold public opinion and mobilize public support. Propaganda, by contrast, is the reasoned use of historical and scientific arguments to indoctrinate the educated and so-called “enlightened” members of society, such as party members.
The term agitprop originated as a shortened form of the Agitation and Propaganda Section of the Central Committee Secretariat of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union. This department of the Central Committee was established in the early 1920s and was responsible for determining the content of all official information, overseeing political education in schools, watching over all forms of mass communication, and mobilizing public support for party programs. Every unit of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union, from the republic to the local-party level, had an agitprop section; at the local level, agitators (party-trained spokesmen) were the chief points of contact between the party and the public.
The word agitprop is used in English to describe such departments and, by extension, any work, especially in the theatre, that aims to educate and indoctrinate the public. It typically has a negative connotation, reflecting Western distaste for the overt use of drama and other art forms to achieve political goals.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/agitprop
https://www.britannica.com/topic/agitprop
31 March 2017 21:45
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
this video is fun,
actually not feeling bad vibes from it, ...
6:20 "lets hurry up.." :D
actually not feeling bad vibes from it, ...
6:20 "lets hurry up.." :D
31 March 2017 21:32
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
cool, so many name The Baltic : ))
31 March 2017 21:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
31 March 2017 21:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so yes, some videos are not enabled,
after long play of edit / repost
And move link up and down to let system know You really bothered about it, then at times it will become playable YT video, but yes,as You can see, even the NAME of the video is not seeable.
Nothing to worry about, just technical, mostly
after long play of edit / repost
And move link up and down to let system know You really bothered about it, then at times it will become playable YT video, but yes,as You can see, even the NAME of the video is not seeable.
Nothing to worry about, just technical, mostly
31 March 2017 21:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
31 March 2017 21:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
are you surprised, that the last video is not "enabled" by this platform here to ?
Let's try one other one, maybe this one works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seezeYXdWO8
Let's try one other one, maybe this one works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seezeYXdWO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seezeYXdWO8
31 March 2017 21:00
Margus Meigo replied to Dylan Snyder's comment.
Allar Kaljundi Yea
31 March 2017 20:02
Margus Meigo commented on Bekka Saunders's post.
Many of these Muslim women should fight to save minds of feminist perhaps .
31 March 2017 19:59
Margus Meigo commented on Promoting progressive politics:'s link.
Women talking here is great!
31 March 2017 19:58
Margus Meigo replied to Ash Grimshaw's comment.
We are on the mood, of preparing meta information about helping to collect this infos, and background information about these people, and their most far away financial and ideological supporters.
I guess i will keep You in friend list, :)
I guess i will keep You in friend list, :)
31 March 2017 19:52
Margus Meigo replied to Ash Grimshaw's comment.
Points are true to pay attention to..
Allar Kaljundi
Allar Kaljundi
31 March 2017 19:50
Margus Meigo commented on Ron Paul Revolution Is Now's link.
These people should be remembered for what they say... and do.. and then what they do not do..
31 March 2017 19:48
Margus Meigo commented on Promoting progressive politics:'s link.
You can see from Turks new method of talk, that.. they not about truth but about making you think what is needed, against Hillary even if needed.
31 March 2017 19:46
Margus Meigo commented on Wake Up World's link.
Most horrifying thing to think is what the evil ones are doing in silence while they send others to make noise..
31 March 2017 19:42
Margus Meigo commented on OYE Alternative News's link.
Wonder what people are eating in most parts of world if they hear hes talks and does not realize, this is not honest adult behavior.
31 March 2017 19:38
Margus Meigo commented on Joseph Fueller's post.
Group: INFOWARS.COM
Did Anyone care to ask Their class and sport mates from 80's .. oh.. no.. this would be to much to ask i guess, more simple to draw pictures.
-31 March 2017 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on Libertarian Party Audacious Caucus's photo.
This is how they took our woman..
31 March 2017 19:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
3 little words..
https://www.facebook.com/LPAudacious/photos/a.1847008432199293.1073741828.1846952335538236/1924950564405079/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/LPAudacious/photos/a.1847008432199293.1073741828.1846952335538236/1924950564405079/?type=3&theater
31 March 2017 19:27
Margus Meigo commented on Road Warrior Radio's post.
and what You think?
In usa they can get married when 12 in some states, with parents permission, so how should it be for more religious, more serious lands with longer traditions of protecting women from early age as possible ?
In usa they can get married when 12 in some states, with parents permission, so how should it be for more religious, more serious lands with longer traditions of protecting women from early age as possible ?
31 March 2017 19:26
Margus Meigo commented on Joe Harwood's photo.
You know what the word "Agit Pop" means and where it comes right ?
Just checking..
Just checking..
31 March 2017 19:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
find ques Yourself.
Between all the bollocks while you was sleeping to make you a property with out noticing your forgotten past
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UipwesAFvZY
Between all the bollocks while you was sleeping to make you a property with out noticing your forgotten past
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UipwesAFvZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UipwesAFvZY
31 March 2017 19:13
Margus Meigo commented on Simon Gershovich's post.
Group: MUSLIMS VS ZIONISTS
take magic mushrooms and listen audio Quran
www.islamhouse.com/p/212893http://www.islamhouse.com/p/212893
31 March 2017 16:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
sheerige :p
31 March 2017 02:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
välimuselt ka suht ok
Kui siin kirikud nood noortele esinema kutsuks aegajalt, siis oleks vast tulu ka rohkem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB0yiSGbpfg
Kui siin kirikud nood noortele esinema kutsuks aegajalt, siis oleks vast tulu ka rohkem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB0yiSGbpfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB0yiSGbpfg
30 March 2017 02:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi see on suht pehmem, kui see klaveri / soolo osa meeldib üldiselt kah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXrLsGBTc4U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXrLsGBTc4U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXrLsGBTc4U
30 March 2017 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Selle algus muidu päris huvitav tundus kah,
Kuid yea, et nagu infi lihtsalt vanadelt näpuviskajatelt, et kas on suurt vahet tunda, et miskit puudu või muidu ikka suht kuulatav tundub?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdkUU4faUe0
Kuid yea, et nagu infi lihtsalt vanadelt näpuviskajatelt, et kas on suurt vahet tunda, et miskit puudu või muidu ikka suht kuulatav tundub?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdkUU4faUe0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdkUU4faUe0
30 March 2017 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid jah, Kristlik metal pidi popp teema olema nüüd,
siin ka suts liialt vist sünti minut kolme aegas ja noodid liialt ühtlaselt koos nagu loomingulisuse, keelte erinevust pole tunda (kuid need läpaka kõlarid ka mul muidugi)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77f1jW787js
siin ka suts liialt vist sünti minut kolme aegas ja noodid liialt ühtlaselt koos nagu loomingulisuse, keelte erinevust pole tunda (kuid need läpaka kõlarid ka mul muidugi)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77f1jW787js
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77f1jW787js
30 March 2017 01:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
selles mõttes, et liiga palju vahelduvad suundasi järjest ühes loos sees, et suts nagu demo'd koos oleks, kuid vb see ka sobib.
30 March 2017 01:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this is the thing.. that i am pleased also, all the mobile screeners can see much at all (rlated to the idea of the movie that is only lookable in cinema )
29 March 2017 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
29 March 2017 20:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 March 2017 19:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 March 2017 19:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
29 March 2017 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Arthur Melhuish
29 March 2017 14:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Heleri Alles (: Nu nunnutar!
28 March 2017 12:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
eriti teema sinine vs roosa icecream :p
28 March 2017 12:55
Margus Meigo replied to Mark O'Blazney's comment.
are you sure, You not involved with it _?
28 March 2017 12:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
should be law to not make entertainment about things like that ,
like serious civil offense or whatever they call it
like serious civil offense or whatever they call it
28 March 2017 12:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
here again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reFD6sRcqcc&t=131s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reFD6sRcqcc&t=131s
28 March 2017 10:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and who in a world is that guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr4vgHsmNEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr4vgHsmNEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr4vgHsmNEk
28 March 2017 10:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(but if it is impossible to shoot IN that time like this, what does it matter?)
28 March 2017 10:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
then other side is still making proper animations about... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfSXkfV_mhA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfSXkfV_mhA
28 March 2017 10:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Other side of story:
computer explain how it was normal, all that happened
(comments under video speak for them self)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfSXkfV_mhA
computer explain how it was normal, all that happened
(comments under video speak for them self)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfSXkfV_mhA
28 March 2017 10:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
IF it was..
WAS, is it impossible ?
Then case is closed about is it., was it or what was it about first step, all should be simply agree with out hesitation and all journals and books who fail to note this, as a fact, should be attacked with full power, and listed in special list of extreme suspicious organizations or part of it.
I mean if mathematically, is impossible to get 7
by adding 2 and 2,and all agree on it, then every one who disagrees to change their reports about 7 should be for ever after noted in storybooks, as extreme strange ones who disagreed to change the truth.
Who thinks was it Agency controlled puppets + extra professional shooter, as normal setup would be, does matter second,
main point people have to focus, that
1) st, strange mistake was made in reporting, that clearly impossible thing was reported as something remotely true.
one 100% false thing is much stronger then 10 from where some are arguable
WAS, is it impossible ?
Then case is closed about is it., was it or what was it about first step, all should be simply agree with out hesitation and all journals and books who fail to note this, as a fact, should be attacked with full power, and listed in special list of extreme suspicious organizations or part of it.
I mean if mathematically, is impossible to get 7
by adding 2 and 2,and all agree on it, then every one who disagrees to change their reports about 7 should be for ever after noted in storybooks, as extreme strange ones who disagreed to change the truth.
Who thinks was it Agency controlled puppets + extra professional shooter, as normal setup would be, does matter second,
main point people have to focus, that
1) st, strange mistake was made in reporting, that clearly impossible thing was reported as something remotely true.
one 100% false thing is much stronger then 10 from where some are arguable
28 March 2017 10:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
JFK Assassination Recreation - Kennedy Reenactment - secret service warren report
//not sure what a lot of use is that but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUtJos-wZXI
//not sure what a lot of use is that but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUtJos-wZXI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUtJos-wZXI
28 March 2017 10:27
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Forte's post.
I mean, if it was really impossible to make this kind of shoots with this kind of riffle, why just not focus in that point,
above ALL in a News, that whatever the final report told, it is IMPOSSIBLE.
Not telling that We did it, not telling, he did not, not telling who might have been and hundred other extreme interesting facts, just ONE fact from beginning: This way, with this Gun, was impossible to re-enact by top gun mans in a world for a STANDING target, so clearly for moving target, from This corner, specially if we add up how many meters car drive in time between the shoots and all that.
So please another explanation, and JUST on that people should have been focusing and ALL others who wanted the truth.
Then under that everyone can collect all the other interesting info, from what the MOST hardcore strange and provable one will be picked next, if first one will be solved,
How did this story managed to get passed so? In it that amazing what was able world to do then... so how well today..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aaqN7SqLpU
above ALL in a News, that whatever the final report told, it is IMPOSSIBLE.
Not telling that We did it, not telling, he did not, not telling who might have been and hundred other extreme interesting facts, just ONE fact from beginning: This way, with this Gun, was impossible to re-enact by top gun mans in a world for a STANDING target, so clearly for moving target, from This corner, specially if we add up how many meters car drive in time between the shoots and all that.
So please another explanation, and JUST on that people should have been focusing and ALL others who wanted the truth.
Then under that everyone can collect all the other interesting info, from what the MOST hardcore strange and provable one will be picked next, if first one will be solved,
How did this story managed to get passed so? In it that amazing what was able world to do then... so how well today..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aaqN7SqLpU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aaqN7SqLpU
28 March 2017 10:14
Margus Meigo replied to Robert Forte's comment.
interesting,
for the effort it was made alone, is worth to look
for the effort it was made alone, is worth to look
28 March 2017 10:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So we focus ed on this points:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8HTr-F-FVM
now in to all other videos
shorter video, of this what was before
For the full video before, just by this audio, can we say, that he's right to be trusted, did rise greatly what ever co-operation and deals he was making in believed good faith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8HTr-F-FVM
now in to all other videos
shorter video, of this what was before
For the full video before, just by this audio, can we say, that he's right to be trusted, did rise greatly what ever co-operation and deals he was making in believed good faith
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/y8HTr-F-FVM/hqdefault.jpg
28 March 2017 09:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1. Eisenhower warned us of the “military-industrial complex” just before Kennedy took office
2. JFK went toe to toe with military contractor United States Steel
3. The military-industrial complex regularly pressured JFK to start all-out nuclear war
4. JFK secretly brokered a nuclear disarmament treaty with Khrushchev
5. JFK openly sided with Castro in the Cuban Revolution
6. JFK was secretly working to end the US occupation of Vietnam
7. JFK refused a 9/11-esque plot to stage terrorist attacks on US soil to be blamed on Cuba
8. Lee Harvey Oswald was a CIA asset
9. Oswald was on the FBI’s payroll
10. CIA assets helped Lee Harvey Oswald get work
11. Oswald was seen in Dallas with a CIA covert ops chief two months before the assassination
12. The CIA revealed their hand in killing JFK through the use of Oswald doubles
13. The Warren Commission Report was a cover-up
14. JFK’s assassination was supposed to happen in Chicago, not Dallas
15. The real shooter in Dallas was on the grassy knoll, and carried a Secret Service badge
16. CIA employee Sidney Gottlieb made Secret Service credentials
// okey some of these things, 3 points specially, are like... Really? Specially 15. one.
why would they do that..
http://www.globalresearch.ca/16-mind-blowing-facts-about-who-really-killed-jfk/5581346
2. JFK went toe to toe with military contractor United States Steel
3. The military-industrial complex regularly pressured JFK to start all-out nuclear war
4. JFK secretly brokered a nuclear disarmament treaty with Khrushchev
5. JFK openly sided with Castro in the Cuban Revolution
6. JFK was secretly working to end the US occupation of Vietnam
7. JFK refused a 9/11-esque plot to stage terrorist attacks on US soil to be blamed on Cuba
8. Lee Harvey Oswald was a CIA asset
9. Oswald was on the FBI’s payroll
10. CIA assets helped Lee Harvey Oswald get work
11. Oswald was seen in Dallas with a CIA covert ops chief two months before the assassination
12. The CIA revealed their hand in killing JFK through the use of Oswald doubles
13. The Warren Commission Report was a cover-up
14. JFK’s assassination was supposed to happen in Chicago, not Dallas
15. The real shooter in Dallas was on the grassy knoll, and carried a Secret Service badge
16. CIA employee Sidney Gottlieb made Secret Service credentials
// okey some of these things, 3 points specially, are like... Really? Specially 15. one.
why would they do that..
http://www.globalresearch.ca/16-mind-blowing-facts-about-who-really-killed-jfk/5581346
28 March 2017 09:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
From fb friend: https://www.facebook.com/robert.forte.79/posts/10154477103528683?notif_t=notify_me¬if_id=1490669053215665
28 March 2017 09:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Almost not meant to, cared not to focus and do this part of the post,
about million theories and fact, but hey, where else, just one thread in here, just place to put something a like when it comes up.,
As rather positive jet, still have not take Full Sides with Him also, as not have investigated really, was he collaborating with communists or how, so how can we choose sides just by emotion and what looks nice and sounds good?
starting with, with no sides taken, just some collection:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs
For a negative point started, he was not as much with ones wife as should have been perhaps ?
But She still loved, so that's good.
Will collect rest of the points later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8HTr-F-FVM
but yea, is of age when you MUST have sides of opinions what are decided emotionally.
But i will decide for my self some days when looking more sides and think and talk a bit if questions still seem to be open.. but from open material what there is.. should be good enough amount.
even for K.s respect, one should be know their legacy more before just blindly liking, what use can that be in compared to scale when some one knows, and then chooses
about million theories and fact, but hey, where else, just one thread in here, just place to put something a like when it comes up.,
As rather positive jet, still have not take Full Sides with Him also, as not have investigated really, was he collaborating with communists or how, so how can we choose sides just by emotion and what looks nice and sounds good?
starting with, with no sides taken, just some collection:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs
For a negative point started, he was not as much with ones wife as should have been perhaps ?
But She still loved, so that's good.
Will collect rest of the points later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8HTr-F-FVM
but yea, is of age when you MUST have sides of opinions what are decided emotionally.
But i will decide for my self some days when looking more sides and think and talk a bit if questions still seem to be open.. but from open material what there is.. should be good enough amount.
even for K.s respect, one should be know their legacy more before just blindly liking, what use can that be in compared to scale when some one knows, and then chooses
28 March 2017 09:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4CHetBzz3k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4CHetBzz3k
28 March 2017 09:28
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Forte's post.
is he in to real deal as well :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSXQYvm57YM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSXQYvm57YM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSXQYvm57YM
28 March 2017 09:26
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
how?
28 March 2017 09:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Compare this focus on a single, devastated woman with Stone’s JFK, which was haunted by a male-dominated baby boomer generational trauma: the country’s descent into cynical darkness and a disastrous war that would presumably never have happened under the idealistic and (in Stone’s questionable characterization) anti-establishment and pacifist Kennedy. “Don’t forget your dying king,” Kevin Costner tearfully tells jurors (and the audience) in the climactic courtroom scene without a trace of irony. Jackie also talks about kings: She tells journalist White that JFK liked listening to the soundtrack record of the Broadway musical Camelot and its story of idealistic King Arthur and his Knights of the Round Table. "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziTgoseyWoU
but in the movie, this sound was made to be remembered:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h7E5rtnFH4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziTgoseyWoU
but in the movie, this sound was made to be remembered:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h7E5rtnFH4
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ziTgoseyWoU/hqdefault.jpg
28 March 2017 09:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Not so pro kennedy page from Vulture page but still worth to add:
"Jackie hints at the piece’s Kennedy-friendly angle, but the movie’s scope doesn’t show how thoroughly manufactured it was. White wasn’t just any journalist; he’d fawned over Jack Kennedy on the campaign trail in a book called The Making of a President, 1960. And Life didn’t just send White to Jackie’s front door; she beckoned, even asking for him by name. As Joyce Hoffman’s book Theodore H. White and Journalism As Illusion puts it:
Theodore H. White was in a dentist’s chair on the Upper East Side of Manhattan on a Friday morning in late November 1963, when he learned that Jacqueline Kennedy had telephoned to say she needed him. One week had passed since President John F. Kennedy’s assassination in Dallas, and now his widow was beseeching the journalist, whom she considered an old friend, to come to Hyannisport. She had something she wanted Life magazine to say to America, and White, she insisted, had to bear the message.
"
"Jackie hints at the piece’s Kennedy-friendly angle, but the movie’s scope doesn’t show how thoroughly manufactured it was. White wasn’t just any journalist; he’d fawned over Jack Kennedy on the campaign trail in a book called The Making of a President, 1960. And Life didn’t just send White to Jackie’s front door; she beckoned, even asking for him by name. As Joyce Hoffman’s book Theodore H. White and Journalism As Illusion puts it:
Theodore H. White was in a dentist’s chair on the Upper East Side of Manhattan on a Friday morning in late November 1963, when he learned that Jacqueline Kennedy had telephoned to say she needed him. One week had passed since President John F. Kennedy’s assassination in Dallas, and now his widow was beseeching the journalist, whom she considered an old friend, to come to Hyannisport. She had something she wanted Life magazine to say to America, and White, she insisted, had to bear the message.
"
28 March 2017 08:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Item I: White's handwritten notes of 29 November 1963 interview with Jacqueline Kennedy
https://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/THWPP-059-011.aspx
Date(s) of Materials: 29 November 1963
Extent: 17 digital pages
Series Name: Camelot Documents.
Series Number: 11.
Collection: Theodore H. White Personal Papers
Contributor: Onassis, Jacqueline Kennedy, 1929-1994
https://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/THWPP-059-011.aspx
Date(s) of Materials: 29 November 1963
Extent: 17 digital pages
Series Name: Camelot Documents.
Series Number: 11.
Collection: Theodore H. White Personal Papers
Contributor: Onassis, Jacqueline Kennedy, 1929-1994
https://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/THWPP-059-011.aspx
28 March 2017 08:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Digitized Folder of Material (this link takes you to a folder of digitized material within a collection)
Publication correspondence, 18 February 1960-11 May 1965 and undated
Theodore H. White Personal Papers18 February 1960-11 May 1965, undated
Digitized Folder of Material (this link takes you to a folder of digitized material within a collection)
Item I: White's handwritten notes of 29 November 1963 interview with Jacqueline Kennedy
Theodore H. White Personal Papers29 November 1963
Digitized Folder of Material (this link takes you to a folder of digitized material within a collection)
"For President Kennedy: An Epilogue," by Theodore H. White, Life, 6 December 1963
Theodore H. White Personal Papers6 December 1963
Digitized Folder of Material (this link takes you to a folder of digitized material within a collection)
Item III-A: Copy of White's 19 December 1963 transcript of interview notes
Theodore H. White Personal Papers19 December 1963
Digitized Folder of Material (this link takes you to a folder of digitized material within a collection)
Item III-B: Carbon copy of White's 27 April 1964 letter to Jacqueline Kennedy
Theodore H. White Personal Papers27 April 1964
Digitized Folder of Material (this link takes you to a folder of digitized material within a collection)
Item IV: Carbon copy of White's 19 December 1966 letter to New York Times and copy of published letter
Theodore H. White Personal Papers19 December 1966, undated
Digitized Folder of Material (this link takes you to a folder of digitized material within a collection)
Covering notes
Theodore H. White Personal PapersUndated
Digitized Folder of Material (this link takes you to a folder of digitized material within a collection)
Item II: White's undated draft typescripts of interview
Theodore H. White Personal PapersUndated
https://www.jfklibrary.org/Search.aspx?nav=N:4294884422
Publication correspondence, 18 February 1960-11 May 1965 and undated
Theodore H. White Personal Papers18 February 1960-11 May 1965, undated
Digitized Folder of Material (this link takes you to a folder of digitized material within a collection)
Item I: White's handwritten notes of 29 November 1963 interview with Jacqueline Kennedy
Theodore H. White Personal Papers29 November 1963
Digitized Folder of Material (this link takes you to a folder of digitized material within a collection)
"For President Kennedy: An Epilogue," by Theodore H. White, Life, 6 December 1963
Theodore H. White Personal Papers6 December 1963
Digitized Folder of Material (this link takes you to a folder of digitized material within a collection)
Item III-A: Copy of White's 19 December 1963 transcript of interview notes
Theodore H. White Personal Papers19 December 1963
Digitized Folder of Material (this link takes you to a folder of digitized material within a collection)
Item III-B: Carbon copy of White's 27 April 1964 letter to Jacqueline Kennedy
Theodore H. White Personal Papers27 April 1964
Digitized Folder of Material (this link takes you to a folder of digitized material within a collection)
Item IV: Carbon copy of White's 19 December 1966 letter to New York Times and copy of published letter
Theodore H. White Personal Papers19 December 1966, undated
Digitized Folder of Material (this link takes you to a folder of digitized material within a collection)
Covering notes
Theodore H. White Personal PapersUndated
Digitized Folder of Material (this link takes you to a folder of digitized material within a collection)
Item II: White's undated draft typescripts of interview
Theodore H. White Personal PapersUndated
https://www.jfklibrary.org/Search.aspx?nav=N:4294884422
https://www.jfklibrary.org/Search.aspx?nav=N%3A4294884422
28 March 2017 08:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Place(s): China // ??
" Papers 1946-1985. Journalist, Correspondent, Author; recipient of the Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction, The Making of the President, 1960. Manuscripts of nine books and Making of the President television documentaries, containing background materials, outlines, interviews, notes, drafts, typescript proofs with extensive annotations, and correspondence; includes research materials and subject files containing press releases, position papers, speech texts, itineraries, news briefings and political statistics, convention and campaign reports and memorabilia; also includes interviews with Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy and Richard M. Nixon.
Extent:
47 linear feet, 3 linear inches
https://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/THWPP.aspx
" Papers 1946-1985. Journalist, Correspondent, Author; recipient of the Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction, The Making of the President, 1960. Manuscripts of nine books and Making of the President television documentaries, containing background materials, outlines, interviews, notes, drafts, typescript proofs with extensive annotations, and correspondence; includes research materials and subject files containing press releases, position papers, speech texts, itineraries, news briefings and political statistics, convention and campaign reports and memorabilia; also includes interviews with Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy and Richard M. Nixon.
Extent:
47 linear feet, 3 linear inches
https://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/THWPP.aspx
https://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/THWPP.aspx
28 March 2017 08:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Better Reading quality:
"The newly released papers include Mr. White's handwrit-
ten notes from the interview and the typed manuscript of the
essay -- with editing marks by Mrs. Kennedy -- that appeared in the Dec. 6, 1963, issue of LIFE. The writer donated the papers to the Kennedy Library in 1969, stipulating that they remain sealed until one year after her death. Called the "Camelot documents,"
they offer another small piece of the puzzle -- another glimpse
into the mind and soul of a private woman who, even in death,
has remained a source of endless fascination and mystery to so many.
Perhaps most important, the papers reveal the extent to
which the sad, wan, yet tearless widow had a hand in shaping
the extraordinary Kennedy legacy. "She certainly wanted to take control of history," said presidential historian Stephen E.
Ambrose, a critic of the rose-colored portrayals of the Kennedy
years, " and in so many ways she managed to do so."
// true loving Woman
Much of the substance of the Camelot interview appeared
in the LIFE essay, "For President Kennedy: An Epilogue." The
magazine held the presses that November night, at a cost of
$30,000 an hour for overtime, while Mr. White talked with Mrs.
Kennedy. He finally dictated his story to editors form the
telephone in the Kennedy kitchen at 2 a.m., with his interview
subject hovering nearby.
Mr. White, who died in 1986, revealed many more details
and impressions from the interview in his 1978 memoir, "
In Search of History
," in which he admits:
http://www.jfklancer.com/pdf/Camelot.pdf
"The newly released papers include Mr. White's handwrit-
ten notes from the interview and the typed manuscript of the
essay -- with editing marks by Mrs. Kennedy -- that appeared in the Dec. 6, 1963, issue of LIFE. The writer donated the papers to the Kennedy Library in 1969, stipulating that they remain sealed until one year after her death. Called the "Camelot documents,"
they offer another small piece of the puzzle -- another glimpse
into the mind and soul of a private woman who, even in death,
has remained a source of endless fascination and mystery to so many.
Perhaps most important, the papers reveal the extent to
which the sad, wan, yet tearless widow had a hand in shaping
the extraordinary Kennedy legacy. "She certainly wanted to take control of history," said presidential historian Stephen E.
Ambrose, a critic of the rose-colored portrayals of the Kennedy
years, " and in so many ways she managed to do so."
// true loving Woman
Much of the substance of the Camelot interview appeared
in the LIFE essay, "For President Kennedy: An Epilogue." The
magazine held the presses that November night, at a cost of
$30,000 an hour for overtime, while Mr. White talked with Mrs.
Kennedy. He finally dictated his story to editors form the
telephone in the Kennedy kitchen at 2 a.m., with his interview
subject hovering nearby.
Mr. White, who died in 1986, revealed many more details
and impressions from the interview in his 1978 memoir, "
In Search of History
," in which he admits:
http://www.jfklancer.com/pdf/Camelot.pdf
28 March 2017 08:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" The “Camelot Documents” were originally created for and relate to the preparation of Mr. White’s brief “Camelot” article “For President Kennedy: An Epilogue,” which was published in the December 6, 1963 issue of LIFE. The article was based on an interview he conducted with Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy, at her home in Hyannis Port, Massachusetts, on the night of November 29, 1963, one week after the assassination of her husband, President John F. Kennedy. The interview was the first of a very small number that Jacqueline Kennedy gave on the subject of President Kennedy’s death. The 1963 LIFE article represented the first use of the term “Camelot” in print and is attributed with having played a major role in establishing and fixing this image of the Kennedy Administration and period in the popular mind. Mr. White Donated this 34-page file, which he called the “Camelot Documents,” to the Kennedy Library in December 1969. In his deed of gift, he stipulated that it was to remain closed until one year after the death of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis. She died on May 19, 1994 "
https://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/THWPP-059-009.aspx
https://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/THWPP-059-009.aspx
https://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/THWPP-059-009.aspx
28 March 2017 08:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so was the original footage not allowed to use?
We can even forget, forgive the Live character that was made perhaps a step off what could have been made considering it is not a documentary and should be kind of honoring movie,
but movie was set so, that the original character would be one step of from positive likeness for many viewers, even if they try hard (newer mind all the others who Already are turned to distrust about past, history, politics and all that..)
but final trick was to make color character a bit off and harder to swallow And then by the fake documentary making emphasis how much better character they made For the movie out of this proper fake robotic frag-tale women who are in "true" documentary scenes.
I was planning to look up WAS it really a true documentary scenes .. as mother told me strong hint that "well.. IF is real... " giving me a hint with out looking if she heard i told "it looked kind of strange Her documentary character...."
And i really wanted to believe, that people would not do so evil thing, to re-act something, as fake documentary and make it in purpose more bad.. and then again really bad taste come to my mind what kind of women was she..
But so lucky i looked up, and comes out, it was not Her in fake documentary scenes at all,
she was not so hippy in original as possible but totally normal and womanly for times and situations.
For sure not worth a this kind of treatment as the directors did
And if you not able to pick up these important small things from voice, image and context this does not matter that they will not affect You and surrounding people around you.
Wonder HOW many people went to look up original video after this to reprogram their subconscious and soul emotional attachment to her being?
Whole Kennedy character also, if to look between the lines, and how she was made to talk about it, ... it was made look really not so good at all.
We can even forget, forgive the Live character that was made perhaps a step off what could have been made considering it is not a documentary and should be kind of honoring movie,
but movie was set so, that the original character would be one step of from positive likeness for many viewers, even if they try hard (newer mind all the others who Already are turned to distrust about past, history, politics and all that..)
but final trick was to make color character a bit off and harder to swallow And then by the fake documentary making emphasis how much better character they made For the movie out of this proper fake robotic frag-tale women who are in "true" documentary scenes.
I was planning to look up WAS it really a true documentary scenes .. as mother told me strong hint that "well.. IF is real... " giving me a hint with out looking if she heard i told "it looked kind of strange Her documentary character...."
And i really wanted to believe, that people would not do so evil thing, to re-act something, as fake documentary and make it in purpose more bad.. and then again really bad taste come to my mind what kind of women was she..
But so lucky i looked up, and comes out, it was not Her in fake documentary scenes at all,
she was not so hippy in original as possible but totally normal and womanly for times and situations.
For sure not worth a this kind of treatment as the directors did
And if you not able to pick up these important small things from voice, image and context this does not matter that they will not affect You and surrounding people around you.
Wonder HOW many people went to look up original video after this to reprogram their subconscious and soul emotional attachment to her being?
Whole Kennedy character also, if to look between the lines, and how she was made to talk about it, ... it was made look really not so good at all.
28 March 2017 08:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
MAIN POINT:
So compare this: minute 5:47 starting https://youtu.be/CbFt4h3Dkkw?t=347
to minute 1:23 starting https://youtu.be/4uzlgpCEWhg?t=83
"and cellar all in one" in original You can feel womendly happiness, pleasure in end of word "one"
"..works started we receive hundreds of letters..."
(in here you can see how the amount of letter is NOT emphasized and rather "passed" by sentence and this is turned in to horrible
" HUNDREDS of Letters every day..." with fake emphasis on number's, (as young culturally sterilized woman would showing off with something not so great kind of fragile way ) and ending with "day" kind of fake depressing note demanding care for hard work it took to handle these-letters (is emotional information with that sound programmed in giving in return reaction to disrespect to writers and these who associate with writers for writing to Her, in movie)
But basically all is that, making even camera close up's in corners emphasizing her fakeness on smile forced by director and as she would be completely unable to do it her self, at all.
Here is IMDB talks.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1619029/reviews?filter=prolific
So compare this: minute 5:47 starting https://youtu.be/CbFt4h3Dkkw?t=347
to minute 1:23 starting https://youtu.be/4uzlgpCEWhg?t=83
"and cellar all in one" in original You can feel womendly happiness, pleasure in end of word "one"
"..works started we receive hundreds of letters..."
(in here you can see how the amount of letter is NOT emphasized and rather "passed" by sentence and this is turned in to horrible
" HUNDREDS of Letters every day..." with fake emphasis on number's, (as young culturally sterilized woman would showing off with something not so great kind of fragile way ) and ending with "day" kind of fake depressing note demanding care for hard work it took to handle these-letters (is emotional information with that sound programmed in giving in return reaction to disrespect to writers and these who associate with writers for writing to Her, in movie)
But basically all is that, making even camera close up's in corners emphasizing her fakeness on smile forced by director and as she would be completely unable to do it her self, at all.
Here is IMDB talks.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1619029/reviews?filter=prolific
28 March 2017 08:06
Margus Meigo commented on Ben Sandler's post.
Group: Thelema
" Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
This group is for the discussion of Thelema. There are two rules:
(1) No personal attacks. "
a bit contradiction in here but hey... it is a new age28 March 2017 07:04
Margus Meigo replied to Cal Kris's comment.
these usually are kind of same minded what the picture, who come up with it
28 March 2017 07:00
Margus Meigo commented on Lihtsad Lõimed's post.
Tõsi
28 March 2017 05:11
Margus Meigo replied to Cal Kris's comment.
thank you for saving the situation
28 March 2017 04:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
thank You for being beautiful!
28 March 2017 04:45
Margus Meigo commented on UNILAD Sound's video.
Thanks for Tips Bro!
28 March 2017 04:02
Margus Meigo commented on Maranda Kidd's post.
here i come, some day, thanks for tips Bro!
28 March 2017 04:01
Margus Meigo commented on Maranda Kidd's photo.
This picture is oneofthe best ones i haveseen from you!
28 March 2017 03:58
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
for humans
28 March 2017 03:54
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
and to not give respect for data, for when so great /(whatever measurements ) humans leave, then it makes me for sure want to protect them
when there is a great murderer who have for example been on height's of extraUnordinary, then when i would hold a sword, to take their head, or a gun, or needle for a poison, i for respect would for sure, make these tools clean before, as long they got anything respectful they have one or they got any measurable amount of fan base who feels truly for them,
not that i would at all care to compare jet the mentioned ones in here, but by all measurements, i am not a commie, i am able to see greatness in who they are who i am looking at , i am not blinded by hatred more then a moments and in these moments unless it is needed to be expressed for emotional artistic educational purpose i keep it for my self, and will reprocess it.. not keeping on the lowest of the lowest thoughts, ideas and emotions, thoughts, ideas that are out of space and no use,
besides it would be fake,
i am sure, most of the "antis" would be in real life, thrilled and apologetic and all sucking up and not so anti this and that when any of the putins, fellers, queens would share best of them with the ones, call them in to their places and say they can stay and o , ask any help they need... and share their best advisors wisdoms and options.. and same time reminding their actual power and situation of special selection.. most people would melt like... faster then butter for sure,
whatever they say, i know, <
but i assume to stay true to my self's
but i got little change to do, as i got little hate to carry
when there is a great murderer who have for example been on height's of extraUnordinary, then when i would hold a sword, to take their head, or a gun, or needle for a poison, i for respect would for sure, make these tools clean before, as long they got anything respectful they have one or they got any measurable amount of fan base who feels truly for them,
not that i would at all care to compare jet the mentioned ones in here, but by all measurements, i am not a commie, i am able to see greatness in who they are who i am looking at , i am not blinded by hatred more then a moments and in these moments unless it is needed to be expressed for emotional artistic educational purpose i keep it for my self, and will reprocess it.. not keeping on the lowest of the lowest thoughts, ideas and emotions, thoughts, ideas that are out of space and no use,
besides it would be fake,
i am sure, most of the "antis" would be in real life, thrilled and apologetic and all sucking up and not so anti this and that when any of the putins, fellers, queens would share best of them with the ones, call them in to their places and say they can stay and o , ask any help they need... and share their best advisors wisdoms and options.. and same time reminding their actual power and situation of special selection.. most people would melt like... faster then butter for sure,
whatever they say, i know, <
but i assume to stay true to my self's
but i got little change to do, as i got little hate to carry
28 March 2017 03:53
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
no not just me, i thin David also found,
but generally to much the thing of "not knowing me" is showing when i in fact, saving and bringing Carter out FROM a diss, knowing my last post abut him, and top of that my view of world.. so .. where was the dissing part anyway..
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Yes and is poor Rockefeller's, i would feel bad if so much crap is written about ,my father in nets, and not even quality crap really as there would be material to write something smart against most people but this vilth what is in nets.. just making me want to turn Russian on these netalizers
but generally to much the thing of "not knowing me" is showing when i in fact, saving and bringing Carter out FROM a diss, knowing my last post abut him, and top of that my view of world.. so .. where was the dissing part anyway..
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Yes and is poor Rockefeller's, i would feel bad if so much crap is written about ,my father in nets, and not even quality crap really as there would be material to write something smart against most people but this vilth what is in nets.. just making me want to turn Russian on these netalizers
28 March 2017 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
no worries, some day we come!
(well.. perhaps not in that way... but then again, why not? )
(well.. perhaps not in that way... but then again, why not? )
28 March 2017 03:23
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
awww....
28 March 2017 03:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
punastega, ikka punastega seotud need skeemid, kunagi sudame lahti selgitada..
28 March 2017 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Uks selle posti laikijatest, kelle seinal väär Roccade kontode alt käib tuleviku Hea strateegiate mustamine või miskid muud skeemid, huvitav mis on vaimsed ühendused ja kust ja millest need asjad tulid,
lampi muidu pole tulnud eriti palju, ja mitte, ettähendused peaks olema alati aga..
isegi "notificatione" mis muidu alati täis.. oli täpselt kuus kuus seismas sellel ajal kui ta profiilil, nad ikka tõsist asjka ajavad..
lampi muidu pole tulnud eriti palju, ja mitte, ettähendused peaks olema alati aga..
isegi "notificatione" mis muidu alati täis.. oli täpselt kuus kuus seismas sellel ajal kui ta profiilil, nad ikka tõsist asjka ajavad..
28 March 2017 03:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi bitcoini ajastutel sellised teadmised suht hypoteetilisteks muutuvad.,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_organizations#Religious_organizations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_organizations#Religious_organizations
28 March 2017 03:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mis osa " enforcer of Matriarchy" nagu keeruline arusaada on
28 March 2017 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu mis sellel Koralliklubi Agnes'el nüüd hakkas, et selle peale ära blokeeris ?
Need peennõia äri kunsti vene ajuprogrammy võrgustikud ikka inimesed eri hapraks ja eelarvamuste rakkese lukustavad, et poole sõna pealt eldatakse juba vastalisust kui see ju polnud muudkui aus avaldus rohkema kui lihtsa laiki alusel.. segelt ju ei olnud ma neile asjadele vastu...
kuid pole motet ju veel ka poolt olla kui inimeste olemus on kentsakas..ja suurt head vähe kosta..
kuigi ise oma arust olin küll, tuues välja suure positiivsuse.. kuid noh.. kes süübida ikka jõuab, lihtsam ikka peennõia võrgustiku alusel kohe blokki panna inimesed kellega emotsionaalselt tegeleda ei jõua tulemuseks aina happram isiksus reaalsuest aina eemal...
Need peennõia äri kunsti vene ajuprogrammy võrgustikud ikka inimesed eri hapraks ja eelarvamuste rakkese lukustavad, et poole sõna pealt eldatakse juba vastalisust kui see ju polnud muudkui aus avaldus rohkema kui lihtsa laiki alusel.. segelt ju ei olnud ma neile asjadele vastu...
kuid pole motet ju veel ka poolt olla kui inimeste olemus on kentsakas..ja suurt head vähe kosta..
kuigi ise oma arust olin küll, tuues välja suure positiivsuse.. kuid noh.. kes süübida ikka jõuab, lihtsam ikka peennõia võrgustiku alusel kohe blokki panna inimesed kellega emotsionaalselt tegeleda ei jõua tulemuseks aina happram isiksus reaalsuest aina eemal...
28 March 2017 03:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and who cares can look in to this
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2016/02/24/how-much-is-the-russian-orthodox-church-worth
but is money all or is the power of millitary, power of fiends and power of tricks and weapons and knowledge.. how that can be translated in to any meaningful list...
better to start co operating all, or else
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2016/02/24/how-much-is-the-russian-orthodox-church-worth
but is money all or is the power of millitary, power of fiends and power of tricks and weapons and knowledge.. how that can be translated in to any meaningful list...
better to start co operating all, or else
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2016/02/24/how-much-is-the-russian-orthodox-church-worth
28 March 2017 03:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Once more:
"“The purpose of the award is not to simply name names, but to raise awareness that these corporations should not exist in our society,” said lawyer Ryo Sakaki, who was also a member of the selection committee.
“The news reports about such companies will be forgotten as time passes. But we’d like everyone to remember once again that these abusive companies do exist by presenting the Most Evil Corporation of the Year Award,”"
"“The purpose of the award is not to simply name names, but to raise awareness that these corporations should not exist in our society,” said lawyer Ryo Sakaki, who was also a member of the selection committee.
“The news reports about such companies will be forgotten as time passes. But we’d like everyone to remember once again that these abusive companies do exist by presenting the Most Evil Corporation of the Year Award,”"
28 March 2017 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ah yeah, the ad company's
perhaps they can also list the ones that has networked the massive network of fake storys and brainwashing by headlines . with full backround of political powers who has interest in it.. well probabaly not.. will see japanese has been nutoriously spiking myeye to fight against fakery and proucing clean truths for few things i have noticed, will see
" It’s another prize . . . but maybe not one that the management at Dentsu Inc. will be proud of.
The major ad agency has been awarded this year’s Most Evil Corporation of the Year Award, also known as the Black Company Award, a corporate raspberry prize given to companies with a culture of overwork, discrimination and harassment, a group of journalists and rights activists announced Friday.
The suicide of one of its workers, Matsuri Takahashi, 24, was recognized as work-related in October. After pushing more than 100 hours of overtime per month, she committed suicide in her company dorm on Christmas Day last year.
“Dear Dentsu Inc., your 24-year-old new employee, Matsuri Takahashi, committed suicide on Dec. 25, 2015. She worked 105 hours of overtime, which is extremely long. In addition, she was suffering from power harassment from her bosses, and was mentally pressured,” said Tokachi Tsuchiya, a film director who is a member of the selection committee.
“On Twitter, she wrote, ‘I don’t want to work,’ and ‘two hours of sleep everyday is extreme.’ Several days before her death, she retweeted a post about the 2015 Black Company Award. She retweeted about this moment right now. It’s regrettable,” he said.
Before her death, Takahashi sent a message to her mother saying: “Goodbye, my lovely mother.”
Takahashi’s case was the second confirmed work-related suicide of a Dentsu employee. Another worker, Ichiro Oshima, who was also 24, died in 1991.
// okey sounds much better then one other copany who put also suecide nets around their factory
so bad evilish alien like corporation,not even mentioning their name
"Since 1951, the company’s employees were urged to follow “Dentsu’s 10 Principles,” which included such items as “Never give up on your task. Treat it as if it was your own life with utmost determination and responsibility,” according to an English version of the list. But a direct translation of the Japanese edition can be read as: “Never give up on your task, not even if you die, until you accomplish it.”
Following requests from her family and lawyer Hiroshi Kawahito to remove all references to the principles from the handbooks it distributes to all employees, Dentsu announced earlier this month that they will be deleted from April next year. "
// well you see, this is great progress,.
"The award, which this year marked its fifth anniversary, examines overtime, sexual and power harassment, bullying, low salary, discrimination against temporary workers, and other abuses at dodgy companies.
“The purpose of the award is not to simply name names, but to raise awareness that these corporations should not exist in our society,” said lawyer Ryo Sakaki, who was also a member of the selection committee.
“The news reports about such companies will be forgotten as time passes. But we’d like everyone to remember once again that these abusive companies do exist by presenting the Most Evil Corporation of the Year Award,” he said."
// that's the spirit !
.. and this is what we will do also, with the ones who expose evil, and the ones who help to hide evil,
as there comes time when... selections will be clear
(maybe not as Clear as scinetologfy lists, but sill.. )
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/12/23/national/social-issues/ad-giant-dentsu-declared-evil-corporation-year/
perhaps they can also list the ones that has networked the massive network of fake storys and brainwashing by headlines . with full backround of political powers who has interest in it.. well probabaly not.. will see japanese has been nutoriously spiking myeye to fight against fakery and proucing clean truths for few things i have noticed, will see
" It’s another prize . . . but maybe not one that the management at Dentsu Inc. will be proud of.
The major ad agency has been awarded this year’s Most Evil Corporation of the Year Award, also known as the Black Company Award, a corporate raspberry prize given to companies with a culture of overwork, discrimination and harassment, a group of journalists and rights activists announced Friday.
The suicide of one of its workers, Matsuri Takahashi, 24, was recognized as work-related in October. After pushing more than 100 hours of overtime per month, she committed suicide in her company dorm on Christmas Day last year.
“Dear Dentsu Inc., your 24-year-old new employee, Matsuri Takahashi, committed suicide on Dec. 25, 2015. She worked 105 hours of overtime, which is extremely long. In addition, she was suffering from power harassment from her bosses, and was mentally pressured,” said Tokachi Tsuchiya, a film director who is a member of the selection committee.
“On Twitter, she wrote, ‘I don’t want to work,’ and ‘two hours of sleep everyday is extreme.’ Several days before her death, she retweeted a post about the 2015 Black Company Award. She retweeted about this moment right now. It’s regrettable,” he said.
Before her death, Takahashi sent a message to her mother saying: “Goodbye, my lovely mother.”
Takahashi’s case was the second confirmed work-related suicide of a Dentsu employee. Another worker, Ichiro Oshima, who was also 24, died in 1991.
// okey sounds much better then one other copany who put also suecide nets around their factory
so bad evilish alien like corporation,not even mentioning their name
"Since 1951, the company’s employees were urged to follow “Dentsu’s 10 Principles,” which included such items as “Never give up on your task. Treat it as if it was your own life with utmost determination and responsibility,” according to an English version of the list. But a direct translation of the Japanese edition can be read as: “Never give up on your task, not even if you die, until you accomplish it.”
Following requests from her family and lawyer Hiroshi Kawahito to remove all references to the principles from the handbooks it distributes to all employees, Dentsu announced earlier this month that they will be deleted from April next year. "
// well you see, this is great progress,.
"The award, which this year marked its fifth anniversary, examines overtime, sexual and power harassment, bullying, low salary, discrimination against temporary workers, and other abuses at dodgy companies.
“The purpose of the award is not to simply name names, but to raise awareness that these corporations should not exist in our society,” said lawyer Ryo Sakaki, who was also a member of the selection committee.
“The news reports about such companies will be forgotten as time passes. But we’d like everyone to remember once again that these abusive companies do exist by presenting the Most Evil Corporation of the Year Award,” he said."
// that's the spirit !
.. and this is what we will do also, with the ones who expose evil, and the ones who help to hide evil,
as there comes time when... selections will be clear
(maybe not as Clear as scinetologfy lists, but sill.. )
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/12/23/national/social-issues/ad-giant-dentsu-declared-evil-corporation-year/
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/12/23/national/social-issues/ad-giant-dentsu-declared-evil-corporation-year/
28 March 2017 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
srry Chomsky, perhaps hard time u happen on my hands ..
lets see what next few random taps will bring
lets see what next few random taps will bring
28 March 2017 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or lets take this leftist words to say so..
.. crap the all turn left smelling alter net who also pro.. aaah anywya, lets give a chance.. they play in many sides... anyway:
"“On November 8, the most powerful country in world history, which will set its stamp on what comes next, had an election,” Chomsky said. “The outcome placed total control of the government — executive, Congress, the Supreme Court — in the hands of the Republican Party, which has become the most dangerous organization in world history.”
Chomsky claimed that the impact on climate science alone was frightening.
“The winning candidate, now the president-elect, calls for rapid increase in use of fossil fuels, including coal; dismantling of regulations; rejection of help to developing countries that are seeking to move to sustainable energy; and in general, racing to the cliff as fast as possible, ” he said before adding, “It is hard to find words to capture the fact that humans are facing the most important question in their history — whether organized human life will survive in anything like the form we know — and are answering it by accelerating the race to disaster.”
// okey seems he got a point here... well lets see if we get in to bottom of it also why and how ... and why again and by who.. and WHY...
" “On November 8, the most powerful country in world history, which will set its stamp on what comes next, had an election,” Chomsky said. “The outcome placed total control of the government — executive, Congress, the Supreme Court — in the hands of the Republican Party, which has become the most dangerous organization in world history.”
Chomsky claimed that the impact on climate science alone was frightening.
“The winning candidate, now the president-elect, calls for rapid increase in use of fossil fuels, including coal; dismantling of regulations; rejection of help to developing countries that are seeking to move to sustainable energy; and in general, racing to the cliff as fast as possible, ” he said before adding, “It is hard to find words to capture the fact that humans are facing the most important question in their history — whether organized human life will survive in anything like the form we know — and are answering it by accelerating the race to disaster.” "
// yeah bring the Adolf here in to talk.. adolf who made most greenest laws ina world history EVER in that scale, for protection of nature, animals, plants and human health. EVER.
They send soldiers in to camp for torturing a frog.
Well.. they got a bit messed up with some humans for after they get brainwashed by anti holy people propacanda from liberals, Luther lutsifarians and roman empire ..... iut this is another story.. and how much of that is true in full scale..anyway..
anywya lets see what more:
"“Asked about the potential for Trump to return to the aggressive militaristic ways of the President George W. Bush era, Chomsky said that was an open question given Trump’s erratic history of saying one thing and then contradicting himself moments later.
“I don’t think one can answer with any confidence. Trump is too unpredictable. There are too many open questions. What we can say is that popular mobilization and activism, properly organized and conducted, can make a large difference,” he remarked before adding ominously, “And we should bear in mind that the stakes are very large.”.”
// okey just spinning head around and as not telling the main core things shows you
1) co operate
2) are afraid the truth that can be
3) just do not know...
kind of like the respected .. 2 american heads..this black one for space and this japanese one for quantion sciense who all seem to know even less then the pot smoking nasa worker whos name i also forget to mention, but at least he smokes pot and trips out some far out ideas, fantasy still, off earth.. but hey..
some day some one will develop in to access to quation slap and will slap them just for they mouth about theoratirizing things and not even telling sorry about things they might be wrong, as they newer even dare to go in to some deep ordinary everyday things, to show what are their position, based on what they talk and what they have figured out, about ocmmon history and current politcs... if they not know this they not understand whu using their words for what. and if they not know this simplething, then is afraid to imaine what else them not know and how deep in to buble of control them are that has been keeping them under hypnozis with confirmation around them "No you totally normal, not under hypnozis at all"
i will let top of my missing englius the typos in also, just to .. just to .. well, just for needed moments
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/chomsky-trumps-win-puts-govt-hands-most-dangerous-organization-world-history
.. crap the all turn left smelling alter net who also pro.. aaah anywya, lets give a chance.. they play in many sides... anyway:
"“On November 8, the most powerful country in world history, which will set its stamp on what comes next, had an election,” Chomsky said. “The outcome placed total control of the government — executive, Congress, the Supreme Court — in the hands of the Republican Party, which has become the most dangerous organization in world history.”
Chomsky claimed that the impact on climate science alone was frightening.
“The winning candidate, now the president-elect, calls for rapid increase in use of fossil fuels, including coal; dismantling of regulations; rejection of help to developing countries that are seeking to move to sustainable energy; and in general, racing to the cliff as fast as possible, ” he said before adding, “It is hard to find words to capture the fact that humans are facing the most important question in their history — whether organized human life will survive in anything like the form we know — and are answering it by accelerating the race to disaster.”
// okey seems he got a point here... well lets see if we get in to bottom of it also why and how ... and why again and by who.. and WHY...
" “On November 8, the most powerful country in world history, which will set its stamp on what comes next, had an election,” Chomsky said. “The outcome placed total control of the government — executive, Congress, the Supreme Court — in the hands of the Republican Party, which has become the most dangerous organization in world history.”
Chomsky claimed that the impact on climate science alone was frightening.
“The winning candidate, now the president-elect, calls for rapid increase in use of fossil fuels, including coal; dismantling of regulations; rejection of help to developing countries that are seeking to move to sustainable energy; and in general, racing to the cliff as fast as possible, ” he said before adding, “It is hard to find words to capture the fact that humans are facing the most important question in their history — whether organized human life will survive in anything like the form we know — and are answering it by accelerating the race to disaster.” "
// yeah bring the Adolf here in to talk.. adolf who made most greenest laws ina world history EVER in that scale, for protection of nature, animals, plants and human health. EVER.
They send soldiers in to camp for torturing a frog.
Well.. they got a bit messed up with some humans for after they get brainwashed by anti holy people propacanda from liberals, Luther lutsifarians and roman empire ..... iut this is another story.. and how much of that is true in full scale..anyway..
anywya lets see what more:
"“Asked about the potential for Trump to return to the aggressive militaristic ways of the President George W. Bush era, Chomsky said that was an open question given Trump’s erratic history of saying one thing and then contradicting himself moments later.
“I don’t think one can answer with any confidence. Trump is too unpredictable. There are too many open questions. What we can say is that popular mobilization and activism, properly organized and conducted, can make a large difference,” he remarked before adding ominously, “And we should bear in mind that the stakes are very large.”.”
// okey just spinning head around and as not telling the main core things shows you
1) co operate
2) are afraid the truth that can be
3) just do not know...
kind of like the respected .. 2 american heads..this black one for space and this japanese one for quantion sciense who all seem to know even less then the pot smoking nasa worker whos name i also forget to mention, but at least he smokes pot and trips out some far out ideas, fantasy still, off earth.. but hey..
some day some one will develop in to access to quation slap and will slap them just for they mouth about theoratirizing things and not even telling sorry about things they might be wrong, as they newer even dare to go in to some deep ordinary everyday things, to show what are their position, based on what they talk and what they have figured out, about ocmmon history and current politcs... if they not know this they not understand whu using their words for what. and if they not know this simplething, then is afraid to imaine what else them not know and how deep in to buble of control them are that has been keeping them under hypnozis with confirmation around them "No you totally normal, not under hypnozis at all"
i will let top of my missing englius the typos in also, just to .. just to .. well, just for needed moments
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/chomsky-trumps-win-puts-govt-hands-most-dangerous-organization-world-history
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/chomsky-trumps-win-puts-govt-hands-most-dangerous-organization-world-history
28 March 2017 02:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or this sector..
https://www.fashionunited.com/executive/management/greenpeace-zara-most-toxic-apparel-20122111490644
"Greenpeace presented its findings in Peking in a report titled "Toxic Threads. The big fashion stitch-up". The organization examined 141 garments from a variety of brands for nonylfenolethoxylates (NFE's), which the organization says cause hormonal disruptions. According to Greenpeace this is dangerous, because NFE's - which are used to fix colour in textiles - can end up in water through the laundering process and drinking water companies are unable to remove the chemicals from the water.
The investigation revealed that C&A, Mango, Levi's, Calvin Klein, Zara, Metersbowe and Jack & Jones made the greatest use of NFE's. The examined items from these brands contained the highest concentration. The garments by Zara also revealed dyes containing amines. These chemicals are registered in the EU as possible carcinogens. Zara has not broken the law: the use of amines remained within the European Union's standards. The use of noylfenol is also regulated in Europe. Greenpeace says stronger measures for NFE-residue are being developed.
The organization says it expects the fashion companies to stop using toxins. "They're treating water as if it's an open sewer. In countries such as China and Bangladesh, where the clothing is produced, the factories dump their toxins into the nearest rivers via pipelines," says Ilze Smit, campaign leader for Greenpeace. "
// aa yeah.. booring for the most of the readers anyway.. as no one talking about u know.. something that is .. not touchable .. is booring if you can just take a car, or plane.. fly there and see.. and then realize, you will be shoot if you would really wanna do something or just laughed at .. much more interesting to spin some other propaganda safely in meetings and internets.. to make revolutions.. against safe opponents that seem so much greater.. as they are in imagination in most part
https://www.fashionunited.com/executive/management/greenpeace-zara-most-toxic-apparel-20122111490644
"Greenpeace presented its findings in Peking in a report titled "Toxic Threads. The big fashion stitch-up". The organization examined 141 garments from a variety of brands for nonylfenolethoxylates (NFE's), which the organization says cause hormonal disruptions. According to Greenpeace this is dangerous, because NFE's - which are used to fix colour in textiles - can end up in water through the laundering process and drinking water companies are unable to remove the chemicals from the water.
The investigation revealed that C&A, Mango, Levi's, Calvin Klein, Zara, Metersbowe and Jack & Jones made the greatest use of NFE's. The examined items from these brands contained the highest concentration. The garments by Zara also revealed dyes containing amines. These chemicals are registered in the EU as possible carcinogens. Zara has not broken the law: the use of amines remained within the European Union's standards. The use of noylfenol is also regulated in Europe. Greenpeace says stronger measures for NFE-residue are being developed.
The organization says it expects the fashion companies to stop using toxins. "They're treating water as if it's an open sewer. In countries such as China and Bangladesh, where the clothing is produced, the factories dump their toxins into the nearest rivers via pipelines," says Ilze Smit, campaign leader for Greenpeace. "
// aa yeah.. booring for the most of the readers anyway.. as no one talking about u know.. something that is .. not touchable .. is booring if you can just take a car, or plane.. fly there and see.. and then realize, you will be shoot if you would really wanna do something or just laughed at .. much more interesting to spin some other propaganda safely in meetings and internets.. to make revolutions.. against safe opponents that seem so much greater.. as they are in imagination in most part
https://www.fashionunited.com/executive/management/greenpeace-zara-most-toxic-apparel-20122111490644
28 March 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey who cares potentially about that stuff, besides Charly manson and few hippes and vegan greeniers outside small academic circle, emotionally, knowingly.. well not much really
Not as interesting as imaginary imaginations about illuminators, lizards in Queen garden and who ever else communist make propaganda at current moment
https://www.umass.edu/newsoffice/article/umass-amherst-political-economy-research
"AMHERST, Mass. – Researchers at the University of Massachusetts Amherst Political Economy Research Institute (PERI) have released updated “Toxic 100” lists of the top corporate air and water polluters in the United States using the most recent data available from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Topping the list of air polluters are Alcoa and Dupont corporations, while Dow Chemical and American Electric Power top the list of water polluters.
The Toxic 100, which is available online at www.toxic100.org, also reports the extent to which air pollution burdens are imposed disproportionately on minority and low-income communities, revealing differences in firms’ environmental justice performance. For example, the data reveals that while minorities make up only 36 percent of the U.S. population, they bear 69 percent of the air toxics risk from facilities owned by ExxonMobil. "
// oh.. what a surprise.. ExxonMobil .. maybe should ask Trump new STATE of FREAKING HEAD about that... You know.. who he choose as a true ruler of a country... maybe he got few friends knowing someone in this mobile company..
i am going full left green liberal here soon for a moment
Not as interesting as imaginary imaginations about illuminators, lizards in Queen garden and who ever else communist make propaganda at current moment
https://www.umass.edu/newsoffice/article/umass-amherst-political-economy-research
"AMHERST, Mass. – Researchers at the University of Massachusetts Amherst Political Economy Research Institute (PERI) have released updated “Toxic 100” lists of the top corporate air and water polluters in the United States using the most recent data available from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Topping the list of air polluters are Alcoa and Dupont corporations, while Dow Chemical and American Electric Power top the list of water polluters.
The Toxic 100, which is available online at www.toxic100.org, also reports the extent to which air pollution burdens are imposed disproportionately on minority and low-income communities, revealing differences in firms’ environmental justice performance. For example, the data reveals that while minorities make up only 36 percent of the U.S. population, they bear 69 percent of the air toxics risk from facilities owned by ExxonMobil. "
// oh.. what a surprise.. ExxonMobil .. maybe should ask Trump new STATE of FREAKING HEAD about that... You know.. who he choose as a true ruler of a country... maybe he got few friends knowing someone in this mobile company..
i am going full left green liberal here soon for a moment
http://www.umass.edu/newsoffice/sites/default/files/styles/article_small/public/PERI%202_0_0.jpeg
28 March 2017 02:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but about Catholics that everyone is on about...
and master answer:
" When people state that the Catholic Church is fabulously wealthy, or the largest owner of real estate in the world, or other superlatives related to financial status, they probably include every church, school (elementary, secondary, and college/university), hospital, clinic, monastery, convent, seminary, retreat center, museum, library, observatory (yes, there is at least one), homeless shelter, orphanage, food bank...I'm sure there are many more but I can't think of what they might be at this point. They also probably include such items as paintings, sculptures, drawings, etchings, rare books and manuscripts, cultural artifacts such as coins, and the like.
It would undoubtedly be an impressive inventory, but there is no central ownership, no central control of these disparate properties. The Pope cannot order Santa Clara University to stop teaching comparative religion or the church of Santa Maria Gloriosa dei Frari in Venice to give Titian's Assumption of the Virgin to the Vatican or the Archdiocese of New York to sell all its unused churches and schools and give the money to the homeless. There is no way the property, both real and personal, of all Catholic institutions could be pooled into a single treasury.
So no, it isn't true that the Catholic Church is the wealthiest entity in the world.
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*LOL* I would most certainly say NO.
The Church has actually had to sell some of those buildings, believe it or not, and in general, your average parish is constantly having to work to keep costs down and has to generate several thousand each year just to keep the lights on.
As for all of those art treasures...
Okay, think of the Queen of England. Those Crown Jewels do NOT belong to Elizabeth II. They belong to the UK. Most of the palaces belong to the UK and are held by Elizabeth the II in trust. She actually owns very little privately.
It's the same with the art treasures held by the Church. They're donated by individual wealthy patrons and more held in trust than actually owned by the Church. If they were sold, they would actually end up doing no good, but while being held by the Church, they're educational in nature and are more valuable as a part of our rich history and culture than as far as money goes.
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Well, first of all, the "Catholic Church" is NOT a world-wide corporate entity. Every single diocese in the world is a corporate-sole residing in its Bishop. Thus, there is no world-wide Catholic Church that owns anything, each diocese holds its own buildings, land, etc. I imagine that the priceless historical treasures in the Vatican may be breathtaking, but they certainly don't match the holdings of many world-wide corporations and individual countries. Many of the Catholic dioceses in the United States have had to declare bankruptcy over the rapacious lawyers and legislatures that seem bent on destroying the Church.
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-the-Catholic-Church-is-the-wealthiest-entity-in-the-world
so yea get off commies..
and look in to some other place,
realizations comes near in hand
Had small spark of feeling today to step up for Catholics ...
have done that for last day's for Roth's and any time anyone asks, fro Queen, or for ... well, sic that these ones are under attack and same time, there is organizations, that clearly care not to even fake to make good, are nearly not talked about conspirators at all, nor media nor common people or academics nor... just some green troopers or vegan fanatic in a websites that only them self are reading and also not having any action plan to do anything about it as no one other communities are interested about it as the names does not sound exotic
and master answer:
" When people state that the Catholic Church is fabulously wealthy, or the largest owner of real estate in the world, or other superlatives related to financial status, they probably include every church, school (elementary, secondary, and college/university), hospital, clinic, monastery, convent, seminary, retreat center, museum, library, observatory (yes, there is at least one), homeless shelter, orphanage, food bank...I'm sure there are many more but I can't think of what they might be at this point. They also probably include such items as paintings, sculptures, drawings, etchings, rare books and manuscripts, cultural artifacts such as coins, and the like.
It would undoubtedly be an impressive inventory, but there is no central ownership, no central control of these disparate properties. The Pope cannot order Santa Clara University to stop teaching comparative religion or the church of Santa Maria Gloriosa dei Frari in Venice to give Titian's Assumption of the Virgin to the Vatican or the Archdiocese of New York to sell all its unused churches and schools and give the money to the homeless. There is no way the property, both real and personal, of all Catholic institutions could be pooled into a single treasury.
So no, it isn't true that the Catholic Church is the wealthiest entity in the world.
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*LOL* I would most certainly say NO.
The Church has actually had to sell some of those buildings, believe it or not, and in general, your average parish is constantly having to work to keep costs down and has to generate several thousand each year just to keep the lights on.
As for all of those art treasures...
Okay, think of the Queen of England. Those Crown Jewels do NOT belong to Elizabeth II. They belong to the UK. Most of the palaces belong to the UK and are held by Elizabeth the II in trust. She actually owns very little privately.
It's the same with the art treasures held by the Church. They're donated by individual wealthy patrons and more held in trust than actually owned by the Church. If they were sold, they would actually end up doing no good, but while being held by the Church, they're educational in nature and are more valuable as a part of our rich history and culture than as far as money goes.
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Well, first of all, the "Catholic Church" is NOT a world-wide corporate entity. Every single diocese in the world is a corporate-sole residing in its Bishop. Thus, there is no world-wide Catholic Church that owns anything, each diocese holds its own buildings, land, etc. I imagine that the priceless historical treasures in the Vatican may be breathtaking, but they certainly don't match the holdings of many world-wide corporations and individual countries. Many of the Catholic dioceses in the United States have had to declare bankruptcy over the rapacious lawyers and legislatures that seem bent on destroying the Church.
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-the-Catholic-Church-is-the-wealthiest-entity-in-the-world
so yea get off commies..
and look in to some other place,
realizations comes near in hand
Had small spark of feeling today to step up for Catholics ...
have done that for last day's for Roth's and any time anyone asks, fro Queen, or for ... well, sic that these ones are under attack and same time, there is organizations, that clearly care not to even fake to make good, are nearly not talked about conspirators at all, nor media nor common people or academics nor... just some green troopers or vegan fanatic in a websites that only them self are reading and also not having any action plan to do anything about it as no one other communities are interested about it as the names does not sound exotic
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-the-Catholic-Church-is-the-wealthiest-entity-in-the-world
28 March 2017 02:28
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kui mina, vähelugenud inimesena kes ennast peaaegu üldse kursis ei hoiapäevalugude lugemisega seda poole lause pealt mõistsin, et siin on punanüünedkes oma meest sääl näha soovivad jaseda tevad läbi Eestlasi ise enda omasi kivadega loopima meelitavad...
... siis see on täiesti vabanadmatu kui keegi ennast kuskil ajakirjanduses või meedias, poliitikas targaks peab ja seda ette ei näinud,
Kui seda ei nähta, siis juba väga hirmuäratav mida veel ei nähta
... siis see on täiesti vabanadmatu kui keegi ennast kuskil ajakirjanduses või meedias, poliitikas targaks peab ja seda ette ei näinud,
Kui seda ei nähta, siis juba väga hirmuäratav mida veel ei nähta
27 March 2017 22:53
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kuni enam hullemaks minna ei saa,
kuid see oli ju 100% TEADA et mis eesmärk Rõivase pommitamisel oli ja kes oli asemelegi plaanitud, oli juba suht paigas.. kuid imelikult vaikne ollakse selles osas, näitab, et enamus ikka suht kutsikaks tehtud..
kuid see oli ju 100% TEADA et mis eesmärk Rõivase pommitamisel oli ja kes oli asemelegi plaanitud, oli juba suht paigas.. kuid imelikult vaikne ollakse selles osas, näitab, et enamus ikka suht kutsikaks tehtud..
27 March 2017 22:50
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Manin's comment.
Usaldus saaks siis olla, kui TÄIS KÕIK teadaoleva dokemntatsiooni koopia ja usaldusisikud (kes kunagi olnud ja mida rääkinud), ning nende info abiratas Teabeametile edasi annaks.,
Nii igaks juhuks.
Aga kas annaks?
// muidugi eeskujuliku rindlasena, nüüd oleks koos venemaa lepingus märgituna aeg uus versioon asjast teha, aktiviseeritud uued alamprotokollid mis nähtamatud ja eraldiseisvad vahe proxy tubadena algsest, kus algse paberi populismi eesmärgil saab visata.. moraalselt juba kõik allutatud.. ja kuna eesmärks saavutatud ja lubatud ja enamus positsioonid käes, siis järgmiste sammude juurde, ... lisaks praeguste hoidmiseni..
minetea mis kõhkugripp mõnel tulla võib, see eesti kliima ka selline,
(MJ: iga nurgatagant võib sul pakane ligi hiilida ja suved ka lühikesed..)
(MJ: Mõistujutuna)
Nii igaks juhuks.
Aga kas annaks?
// muidugi eeskujuliku rindlasena, nüüd oleks koos venemaa lepingus märgituna aeg uus versioon asjast teha, aktiviseeritud uued alamprotokollid mis nähtamatud ja eraldiseisvad vahe proxy tubadena algsest, kus algse paberi populismi eesmärgil saab visata.. moraalselt juba kõik allutatud.. ja kuna eesmärks saavutatud ja lubatud ja enamus positsioonid käes, siis järgmiste sammude juurde, ... lisaks praeguste hoidmiseni..
minetea mis kõhkugripp mõnel tulla võib, see eesti kliima ka selline,
(MJ: iga nurgatagant võib sul pakane ligi hiilida ja suved ka lühikesed..)
(MJ: Mõistujutuna)
27 March 2017 22:44
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Manin's comment.
Nu vähemalt pereväärtustega inimene..eksju, saaks selle kodumaalisuse ka kindlalt pulgale.. mine tea, mis asja siis teeks ja mida ta avaldaks OMA KODUMAALE...
"Meedias räägivad Keskerakonna liikmed, et koostööprotokoll määratleb kultuuri-, regionaal- ja noortekoostööd. Tõsi, punktides 3 ja 6 räägitakse sellest tõepoolest, kuid mingil põhjusel ei taha erakonna liikmed mainida, et see leping käsitleb kaugelt laiemat kui eelpoolmainitu. Punktist 1 selgub, et pooled viivad läbi konsultatsioone ja vahetavad infot aktuaalsetes küsimustes Eesti ja Venemaa suhetes ning laiemas kontekstis. Veel enam, üksteisele tutvustatakse oma kogemusi erakonna ülesehitamises, organisatoorses töös, kontrolli ja revisjonide korraldamises, koolituses ja ümberõppes. Täpina i peal öeldakse protokolli esimeses punktis, et üksteisele tutvustatakse oma kogemusi peale rahvusvaheliste ja erakondlike küsimuste ka teistes vastastikust huvi pakkuvates valdkondades.
Koostööprotokoll näeb ette aktiivset komisjonide loomist, infovahetust ja isegi majandusalase koostöö arendamist vastava erikomisjoni kaudu. Komisjone ei ole koostöölepingu raames kogunenud ja nii ütlevad keskerakondlased, et kuna aktiivne tegevus puudub, siis on leping raugenud. Samas on mitu Keskerakonna kõige populaarsemat poliitikut aktiivsetes suhetes Moskvaga. Yana Toom on sage külaline Kremli esipropagandisti Kisseljovi saates. Ka mõjuagendiks kutsutud endine erakonna esimees on Moskvas sage külaline, kuigi millise leppe raames tema seal käib, on siiani arusaamatu.
Keskerakonna hämamine Ühtse Venemaa lepingu teemal on küüniline ja prgamaatiline. Seda tühiseks nimetades, aga mitte tühistades jätkatakse senist kahepalgelist parteiliini, kus üritatakse eestikeelsele valijale rääkida üht ja venekeelsele hoopis teist juttu. Leping Kremli parteiga on praeguses julgeolekuolukorras ideoloogiliselt laetud teema, mis peaks partei põhivalijat motiveerima ka edaspidi erakonna poolt hääletama.
Ent kaardil on ka teine külg. Keskerakonna esimehest Jüri Ratasest saab suure tõenäosusega järgmine Eesti Vabariigi peaminister. Niikaua kuni eksisteerib see lepe, eksisteerib usalduskriis ja ka võimalus leppe jõustamiseks. Kuna protokolli ei ole denonsseeritud, on selle taaselustamine vaid ühe telefonikõne või e-kirja kaugusel.
Koostööprotokollis mainitud infovahetus on lai mõiste. Peaministril ja valitsuskabineti liikmetel avaneb riigisaladuse loa näol ligipääs tundlikule infole. Kõige strateegilisem on loomulikult julgeolekualane info, mida NATO ja ELi liikmena on meil muljet avaldavates kogustes. Selleks et lepingu sahtlis hoidmise valguses säiliks rahva ja ka meie partnerite usaldus Eesti riigi ja valitsuse vastu, on mul ettepanek: Jüri Ratas, kui tahate saada Eesti Vabariigi peaministriks, siis rebige see leping puruks."
2016 November 21: http://online.le.ee/2016/11/21/ratas-krimm-on-okupeeritud-ja-leping-uhtse-venemaaga-ei-toota/
2016 November 11: http://arvamus.postimees.ee/3907259/lauri-hussar-juri-ratas-rebige-see-leping-puruks
"Meedias räägivad Keskerakonna liikmed, et koostööprotokoll määratleb kultuuri-, regionaal- ja noortekoostööd. Tõsi, punktides 3 ja 6 räägitakse sellest tõepoolest, kuid mingil põhjusel ei taha erakonna liikmed mainida, et see leping käsitleb kaugelt laiemat kui eelpoolmainitu. Punktist 1 selgub, et pooled viivad läbi konsultatsioone ja vahetavad infot aktuaalsetes küsimustes Eesti ja Venemaa suhetes ning laiemas kontekstis. Veel enam, üksteisele tutvustatakse oma kogemusi erakonna ülesehitamises, organisatoorses töös, kontrolli ja revisjonide korraldamises, koolituses ja ümberõppes. Täpina i peal öeldakse protokolli esimeses punktis, et üksteisele tutvustatakse oma kogemusi peale rahvusvaheliste ja erakondlike küsimuste ka teistes vastastikust huvi pakkuvates valdkondades.
Koostööprotokoll näeb ette aktiivset komisjonide loomist, infovahetust ja isegi majandusalase koostöö arendamist vastava erikomisjoni kaudu. Komisjone ei ole koostöölepingu raames kogunenud ja nii ütlevad keskerakondlased, et kuna aktiivne tegevus puudub, siis on leping raugenud. Samas on mitu Keskerakonna kõige populaarsemat poliitikut aktiivsetes suhetes Moskvaga. Yana Toom on sage külaline Kremli esipropagandisti Kisseljovi saates. Ka mõjuagendiks kutsutud endine erakonna esimees on Moskvas sage külaline, kuigi millise leppe raames tema seal käib, on siiani arusaamatu.
Keskerakonna hämamine Ühtse Venemaa lepingu teemal on küüniline ja prgamaatiline. Seda tühiseks nimetades, aga mitte tühistades jätkatakse senist kahepalgelist parteiliini, kus üritatakse eestikeelsele valijale rääkida üht ja venekeelsele hoopis teist juttu. Leping Kremli parteiga on praeguses julgeolekuolukorras ideoloogiliselt laetud teema, mis peaks partei põhivalijat motiveerima ka edaspidi erakonna poolt hääletama.
Ent kaardil on ka teine külg. Keskerakonna esimehest Jüri Ratasest saab suure tõenäosusega järgmine Eesti Vabariigi peaminister. Niikaua kuni eksisteerib see lepe, eksisteerib usalduskriis ja ka võimalus leppe jõustamiseks. Kuna protokolli ei ole denonsseeritud, on selle taaselustamine vaid ühe telefonikõne või e-kirja kaugusel.
Koostööprotokollis mainitud infovahetus on lai mõiste. Peaministril ja valitsuskabineti liikmetel avaneb riigisaladuse loa näol ligipääs tundlikule infole. Kõige strateegilisem on loomulikult julgeolekualane info, mida NATO ja ELi liikmena on meil muljet avaldavates kogustes. Selleks et lepingu sahtlis hoidmise valguses säiliks rahva ja ka meie partnerite usaldus Eesti riigi ja valitsuse vastu, on mul ettepanek: Jüri Ratas, kui tahate saada Eesti Vabariigi peaministriks, siis rebige see leping puruks."
2016 November 21: http://online.le.ee/2016/11/21/ratas-krimm-on-okupeeritud-ja-leping-uhtse-venemaaga-ei-toota/
2016 November 11: http://arvamus.postimees.ee/3907259/lauri-hussar-juri-ratas-rebige-see-leping-puruks
http://online.le.ee/2016/11/21/ratas-krimm-on-okupeeritud-ja-leping-uhtse-venemaaga-ei-toota/
27 March 2017 22:43
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Manin's comment.
"Kogu tema jutt on hoolikalt ette valmistatud ja vaba igasugusest omapärast – otsekui viielise õpilase ettekujutus sellest, mida üks õige poliitik rääkima peaks."
"Teiseks – ja see on ehk isegi olulisem – on tegemist läbiproovitud keskerakondlasega, kes oma lojaalsuse parteile aastate jooksul ära tõestanud. Nägemus Ratasest kui “tublist poisist, tublist pioneerist, kes alati valmis juhtnööre ellu viima ja iseseisva mõtlemisega üle ei pinguta” on levinud nii opositsioonipoliitikute kui ka linnavalitsuse töötajate seas."
"Selles lauses – nii nagu kogu Ratase kõneviisis – on aina selgemalt tunda Savisaart ennast. “Kui käisin täna lõunat söömas, istusid kõrvallauas 20–25aastased noored ja arutasid kuuldavalt seda, kui naljakas on uus linnapea. Et ta räägib samade sõnadega, samu grimasse tehes nagu Edgar Savisaar. Tegemist on inimesega, kes oma suurt eeskuju varjamatult matkib. See tekitab umbusku. Kas ta suudab ka iseseisvalt tegutseda?” küsib sotsiaaldemokraatide linnavolinik Hannes Rumm.
Savisaare kõrval on Jüri Ratasel ka teine eeskuju – lihane isa Rein Ratas, samuti pikaaegne keskerakondlane."
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Liigub koguni teooria, mille kohaselt olnud Jüri Ratase otsus poliitikasse minna suuresti ajendatud soovist “ära teha” Isamaaliidule ja Reformierakonnale, kes võimul olles tema isa keskkonnaministeeriumi kantsleri kohalt lahti lasid. Tulevast linnapead ajab see teooria naerma, mis on huumorikaugeks inimeseks peetava Ratase puhul hea tulemus.
Kuid ta ei naera, kui küsida, kas vastab tõele teine huvitav teooria – Ratase suurim unistus on Eesti Vabariigi presidendi koht. “Kindlasti see ei käi nii, et pannakse kalendrisse kirja, et sellel aastal ma saan peaministriks või presidendiks,” kostab ta tõsiselt. “Aga kui te küsite, mis on minu unistus, siis minu unistus on saada heaks abikaasaks ja pereisaks.”
"Teiseks – ja see on ehk isegi olulisem – on tegemist läbiproovitud keskerakondlasega, kes oma lojaalsuse parteile aastate jooksul ära tõestanud. Nägemus Ratasest kui “tublist poisist, tublist pioneerist, kes alati valmis juhtnööre ellu viima ja iseseisva mõtlemisega üle ei pinguta” on levinud nii opositsioonipoliitikute kui ka linnavalitsuse töötajate seas."
"Selles lauses – nii nagu kogu Ratase kõneviisis – on aina selgemalt tunda Savisaart ennast. “Kui käisin täna lõunat söömas, istusid kõrvallauas 20–25aastased noored ja arutasid kuuldavalt seda, kui naljakas on uus linnapea. Et ta räägib samade sõnadega, samu grimasse tehes nagu Edgar Savisaar. Tegemist on inimesega, kes oma suurt eeskuju varjamatult matkib. See tekitab umbusku. Kas ta suudab ka iseseisvalt tegutseda?” küsib sotsiaaldemokraatide linnavolinik Hannes Rumm.
Savisaare kõrval on Jüri Ratasel ka teine eeskuju – lihane isa Rein Ratas, samuti pikaaegne keskerakondlane."
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Liigub koguni teooria, mille kohaselt olnud Jüri Ratase otsus poliitikasse minna suuresti ajendatud soovist “ära teha” Isamaaliidule ja Reformierakonnale, kes võimul olles tema isa keskkonnaministeeriumi kantsleri kohalt lahti lasid. Tulevast linnapead ajab see teooria naerma, mis on huumorikaugeks inimeseks peetava Ratase puhul hea tulemus.
Kuid ta ei naera, kui küsida, kas vastab tõele teine huvitav teooria – Ratase suurim unistus on Eesti Vabariigi presidendi koht. “Kindlasti see ei käi nii, et pannakse kalendrisse kirja, et sellel aastal ma saan peaministriks või presidendiks,” kostab ta tõsiselt. “Aga kui te küsite, mis on minu unistus, siis minu unistus on saada heaks abikaasaks ja pereisaks.”
27 March 2017 22:28
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Manin's comment.
muidugi abirRatta ja ekrede mõisnikute kõrval on enamus kerjused, et seda taset vist raske võrrelda..
27 March 2017 22:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
some agitpropt for you of another level to mix things up:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=408906356125897&set=pcb.659812030858362&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=408906356125897&set=pcb.659812030858362&type=3&theater
27 March 2017 22:13
Margus Meigo replied to Jasminka Ristovska Pilickova's comment.
Group: Symbolism of the Esoteric and Occult
Thank You!27 March 2017 22:12
Margus Meigo commented on HaRi Hor's post.
Group: The Swastika Historical symbol for the present, past and future.
vau... isegi pentagrammi mehed.. nu ju neil viisnurga vendadel see plaan ammu oli see swastika likvideerida..27 March 2017 22:11
Margus Meigo replied to Piret Mandre's comment.
vaat kui palju oleneb kaameranurgast, ja kumbki pole fake news :p
27 March 2017 22:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et kui tangiga ringi sumbata siis peab ikka petoontee ka vastav olema :D
27 March 2017 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Meigo's photo.
Kas siis miskit sellist võrku, lippe või miskit materiali ei ole olemas mis maha installeeritakse, vaiadega, ... sutsu tööd aga ehk turvalisem..edaspidi ju hakkab kogunema ja kogunema vett kus mulla tihedus erinev ja siis jääbki alatiseks õuele vallid silmailu rikkuma kui kohe korda ei tee... alati kruusa ka ei jõua laduda,
me maal kive ka asju mitmeid zilli kaste ühele teejupile pannud kuid suurt kasu pole olnud, nagu soo oleks all
me maal kive ka asju mitmeid zilli kaste ühele teejupile pannud kuid suurt kasu pole olnud, nagu soo oleks all
27 March 2017 22:02
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Manin's comment.
sul meeldib hip hhop / räp kultuur ka?
27 March 2017 21:58
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Manin's comment.
folkrorist
27 March 2017 21:58
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Manin's comment.
Vana hea bill oli selle kohta öelda miskit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CGM8t_zSYc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CGM8t_zSYc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CGM8t_zSYc
27 March 2017 21:51
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Manin's comment.
27 March 2017 21:50
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Manin's comment.
Tõsi
eriti kui tegu sarviku asjadega ja pikas plaanis vaatega
eriti kui tegu sarviku asjadega ja pikas plaanis vaatega
27 March 2017 21:49
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Manin's comment.
asju tuleb syvitsi analüüsida, muidu naudime teiste orjastust nagu lambad, kõik mis on meeldiv, ei pruugi Hea olla
27 March 2017 21:47
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Manin's comment.
tead mõnda tõsist muusikut kes ei tarvita drooge v
27 March 2017 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Manin's comment.
alguses tundus, et pääsukesed tal sääl kitarri peal, kuid õnneks siiani tundub, et tal hing veel puhas ja ta otse sarvikule ei mängi muusikat, vaadates sümbolite kooslust mille valinud on ja ta enda positiivset olekut, veel
27 March 2017 21:45
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Manin's comment.
tänapäeval pole miski enam ime ja nu see "tähtede saade" ise juba, see juba see teema, et nad vaimselt on rakkesse pandud
kui seda Musta Peeglit näinud oled, siis siin väike lahtiseletus, kuigi... eks emotsioonaalselt ole hea seda osa puhtalt enne ise ka vaadata..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_VIL7x6L1I&list=PLKuzFhxtS9BFe0jGXQzge2o3tEH8chKpO&index=7 (viimane pool teemast eriti "teemas" )
kui seda Musta Peeglit näinud oled, siis siin väike lahtiseletus, kuigi... eks emotsioonaalselt ole hea seda osa puhtalt enne ise ka vaadata..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_VIL7x6L1I&list=PLKuzFhxtS9BFe0jGXQzge2o3tEH8chKpO&index=7 (viimane pool teemast eriti "teemas" )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_VIL7x6L1I&list=PLKuzFhxtS9BFe0jGXQzge2o3tEH8chKpO&index=7
27 March 2017 21:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2:50 mmm
27 March 2017 21:32
Margus Meigo commented on Jyri Manin's post.
N. Liidu ja Kommunistide alistatud maade absoluutne tipp standard omas vallas,
ja meeldetuletuseks, Eestlastele, et N. Liit oli suurem kui meie maa..
Pool maakera ikkagi, kindlat palju parteisi sai selle kidraga lagundatud
ja meeldetuletuseks, Eestlastele, et N. Liit oli suurem kui meie maa..
Pool maakera ikkagi, kindlat palju parteisi sai selle kidraga lagundatud
27 March 2017 21:31
Margus Meigo replied to Agnes Kallit's comment.
Või noh, veel samm enne seda, märkasin ta vaprat naist kes SkyPlusi musta ilmavaate mölalõugade vastu julges astuda.
Kuid eks see hea, et need sellised emotsionaalsed aluspunktid on, polegi enne tugevalt sotside poolel jõudnud olla, sest liiga suur punaste vana loor selle ümber oli,
kuid eks ajad muutuvad ja õiged rukkililled ikka oma pea kuslilt ootamatust kohast välja pistavad
Kuid ma veel endiselt hoian tema vaimuilma torkimast, aega uurida veel küll, vaja veel oma paar tööriista tööle saada millega inimhinge saaks adekvaatsemalt läbi näha
Kuid eks see hea, et need sellised emotsionaalsed aluspunktid on, polegi enne tugevalt sotside poolel jõudnud olla, sest liiga suur punaste vana loor selle ümber oli,
kuid eks ajad muutuvad ja õiged rukkililled ikka oma pea kuslilt ootamatust kohast välja pistavad
Kuid ma veel endiselt hoian tema vaimuilma torkimast, aega uurida veel küll, vaja veel oma paar tööriista tööle saada millega inimhinge saaks adekvaatsemalt läbi näha
27 March 2017 21:27
Margus Meigo replied to Agnes Kallit's comment.
ega see Novski mul varem silma ei jäänutki millegiga mis patriootlikust tõstaks, selline kahtlane varjund oli, kuid eks ta kohe reaalselt sai suure riigivastaste vastasteks kui ta selle slooganiga välja tuli:
https://www.facebook.com/sotsdem/photos/a.128498947174331.19736.123310201026539/1484848094872736/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/sotsdem/photos/a.128498947174331.19736.123310201026539/1484848094872736/?type=3&theater
27 March 2017 21:23
Margus Meigo replied to Agnes Kallit's comment.
Või, et mõlemad korraga kohe, Sa eriti haruldane laps : )
27 March 2017 21:19
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Manin's comment.
kuid presidendi kohta nad ikkagi ei saanud, tänu Siimule,
ja see jääb neil hamba peale kuni lõpuni, sest see selline moraalne koht, et kui iganes marjonetiks seda ristida, siis just see ametikoht saab vagusi hoida maailma mastaabis enamuste teiste suud kes muidu sooviksid mida iganes laulda, mida tulev 2020 aasta revulutsioon soenduseks vajab
kuid ameerikLapsed said oma kõige venemeelsema juhi riigi struktuuri siseasjade juhtimisele paika, koos alluva peaga... eks näis kui palju riike siin alles jääb peale seda uut aega, ja kas nad hoiavad oma tulnuka asjad veel varjus või võtavad need ka viimases hädas varjust välja, et sellega viimaseid murda, ... kuigi nadsooviksid nii naturaalselt kui vähegi võimalik, et kogu võim sujuvalt nende kes oleks ja siis märkamatult paarikümne aastaga kõik ühte võimuna lõplikult ühtses käsus oleks., ilma võimaluseta, et kunagi ükski punt reaalselt enam saaks puldi ligi,
üks kõigi kõik (maa eri jõud) ühe eest, aidatakse likvideerida ja ümber konvertida kes iganes puldiligi pääseb... sellised vanad juurikad nagu meil siin eestis.. raiskavad ainult suurte revulatsiooonääride aega ja rahu.. sest tilk tõrva rikub meepoti..eriti kui ta rahvusvaheliselt nii ühendatud on kui meie seda osavalt oleme, oma väiksust ja head imabot arvestades... meiega nii ei saa nii naljalt teha kui Peruulaste sund steriliseerimine maarahva seas... kuigi, eks meil siin majandusega, umbes sama olukorda saavutada proovitakse, et laspi ei saaks ega tuleks, kes tervemõistuslikult maapoolsed oleks.. kui siis mõned, laborikatsete jaoks...
ja see jääb neil hamba peale kuni lõpuni, sest see selline moraalne koht, et kui iganes marjonetiks seda ristida, siis just see ametikoht saab vagusi hoida maailma mastaabis enamuste teiste suud kes muidu sooviksid mida iganes laulda, mida tulev 2020 aasta revulutsioon soenduseks vajab
kuid ameerikLapsed said oma kõige venemeelsema juhi riigi struktuuri siseasjade juhtimisele paika, koos alluva peaga... eks näis kui palju riike siin alles jääb peale seda uut aega, ja kas nad hoiavad oma tulnuka asjad veel varjus või võtavad need ka viimases hädas varjust välja, et sellega viimaseid murda, ... kuigi nadsooviksid nii naturaalselt kui vähegi võimalik, et kogu võim sujuvalt nende kes oleks ja siis märkamatult paarikümne aastaga kõik ühte võimuna lõplikult ühtses käsus oleks., ilma võimaluseta, et kunagi ükski punt reaalselt enam saaks puldi ligi,
üks kõigi kõik (maa eri jõud) ühe eest, aidatakse likvideerida ja ümber konvertida kes iganes puldiligi pääseb... sellised vanad juurikad nagu meil siin eestis.. raiskavad ainult suurte revulatsiooonääride aega ja rahu.. sest tilk tõrva rikub meepoti..eriti kui ta rahvusvaheliselt nii ühendatud on kui meie seda osavalt oleme, oma väiksust ja head imabot arvestades... meiega nii ei saa nii naljalt teha kui Peruulaste sund steriliseerimine maarahva seas... kuigi, eks meil siin majandusega, umbes sama olukorda saavutada proovitakse, et laspi ei saaks ega tuleks, kes tervemõistuslikult maapoolsed oleks.. kui siis mõned, laborikatsete jaoks...
27 March 2017 21:16
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Manin's comment.
ei nu muidugi niisuurt ebaõigluse skaalat ei saa tekitada kui välisluure poolt siseagentide kaudu külajutu tasemel algatatud peaministrivastane agenda riigi struktuuri naeruvääristamiseks ja positsiooni vabastamiseks praegustele jõududele kelle vastu tundub, et " EKRE riiki juhtima " inimestel niipalju vaenu pole, ega ei julgegi olla (sest ratas mehem mees kes võib saata sul oma isiklikust papist kellegi sulle molli andma kui väga vaja...Rõval kahjuks sellist mehelisust polnud oma tagasihoidlikus viisakuses),
kuigi strateegiliselt peavad natukene kobisema ka ikka, et liialt ilmselge asi poleks (umbes nagu REN TVs on vaja riigi vastast asja ka rääkida avalult, et muu ufa mustamaagia propakanda läbi vene mõjutatud faktisuunamise koostöös History kanali jms "ameerikLastega" usustavam tunduks )
kuigi strateegiliselt peavad natukene kobisema ka ikka, et liialt ilmselge asi poleks (umbes nagu REN TVs on vaja riigi vastast asja ka rääkida avalult, et muu ufa mustamaagia propakanda läbi vene mõjutatud faktisuunamise koostöös History kanali jms "ameerikLastega" usustavam tunduks )
27 March 2017 21:09
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
Does not work like that
27 March 2017 20:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Innovtive:
theatre collective in the early Soviet Union,
1927 there were more than 5,000 Blue Blouse troupes in the Soviet Union with more than 100,000 members!!!
In the autumn of that year, the original troupe began a tour in Erwin Piscator's theatre in Berlin that provoked a rapid growth of agitprop troupes across Weimar Germany
Boris Yuzhanin created the first Blue Blouse troupe under the auspices of the Moscow Institute of Journalism in 1923
Blue Blouse theatre incorporated a myriad of different artistic mediums of performance as well as talents such as dancing and singing to create dynamic performances with identifiable acts. Blue Blouse continued with the tradition of living newspaper, which involved presenting the important news stories of the day to the people. This originally stemmed from high illiteracy rates, so somebody would read the newspaper out loud. This practice evolved to the paper being acted out with visual assistance, providing an effective way to get news across and speak to the workers
The performances were made to be interesting for the audience and used a variety of techniques. One technique was dramatic form, which included monologue, dialogue, and singing. Other forms were those derived from dance and gymnastics, such as acrobatics. Blue Blouse made use of posters, as well as musical numbers, and even some film.[9] There was an incredible amount of variet
Actors were also not supposed to show any emotion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Blouse
theatre collective in the early Soviet Union,
1927 there were more than 5,000 Blue Blouse troupes in the Soviet Union with more than 100,000 members!!!
In the autumn of that year, the original troupe began a tour in Erwin Piscator's theatre in Berlin that provoked a rapid growth of agitprop troupes across Weimar Germany
Boris Yuzhanin created the first Blue Blouse troupe under the auspices of the Moscow Institute of Journalism in 1923
Blue Blouse theatre incorporated a myriad of different artistic mediums of performance as well as talents such as dancing and singing to create dynamic performances with identifiable acts. Blue Blouse continued with the tradition of living newspaper, which involved presenting the important news stories of the day to the people. This originally stemmed from high illiteracy rates, so somebody would read the newspaper out loud. This practice evolved to the paper being acted out with visual assistance, providing an effective way to get news across and speak to the workers
The performances were made to be interesting for the audience and used a variety of techniques. One technique was dramatic form, which included monologue, dialogue, and singing. Other forms were those derived from dance and gymnastics, such as acrobatics. Blue Blouse made use of posters, as well as musical numbers, and even some film.[9] There was an incredible amount of variet
Actors were also not supposed to show any emotion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Blouse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Blouse
27 March 2017 20:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Literacy campaign: Lenin understood that in order to increase the effectiveness of his propaganda, the cultural level of the Russian people would have to be raised by bringing down the illiteracy rate.[11] The peasant society of Russia in 1917 was largely illiterate making it difficult to reach them through printed agitprop. Lenin created the People’s Commissariat of Enlightenment to spearhead the war on illiteracy.[12] Instructors were trained in 1919, and sent to the countryside to create more instructors and expand the operation into a network of illiteracy centers. New textbooks were created, containing Bolshevik ideology to indoctrinate the newly literate members of Soviet society, and the literacy training in the army was expande
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Censorship of the press: Bolshevik strategy from the beginning was to introduce censorship over the primary medium of information in the former Russian Empire in 1917, the newspaper.[7] The provisional government, born out of the March Revolution against the tsarist regime, abolished the age-old practice of censoring the press. This created free newspapers that survived on their own revenue. The Bolsheviks' power over the provisional government lay in the Petrograd Soviet of Workers’ and Soldiers’ Deputies, because they could shut down industry and government by calling in workers and soldiers to strike and demonstrate. This ability to orchestrate strikes was especially helpful in the newspaper printing factories because a strike would mean a large loss in revenue, and the inability to continue to operate. The capability of strikes allowed the Bolsheviks to shut down any newspaper they wanted, creating a highly effective censorship mechanism that put a stop to the voice of the opposition. Lenin took control of the socialist newspaper Pravda, making it an outlet to spread Bolshevik agitprop, articles, and other media. With the Bolshevik capability to censor and shut down newspapers of opposing or rival factions, Pravda was able to become the dominant source of written information for the population in regions controlled by the Red Army .[8]
Top: Woman, learn to read and write! Bottom: Oh, Mommy! If you were literate, you could help me! A poster by Elizaveta Kruglikova advocating female literacy dating from 1923
Oral-agitation networks: The Bolshevik leadership understood that to build a lasting regime, they would need to win the support of the mass population of Russian peasants. To do this, Lenin organized a Communist party that attracted demobilized soldiers and others to become indoctrinated in Bolshevik ideology, dressed up in uniforms and sent to travel the countryside as agitators to the peasants.[9] The oral-agitation networks established a presence in the isolated rural areas of Russia, expanding Communist power.
Agitational trains and ships: To expand the reach of the oral-agitation networks, the Bolsheviks pioneered using modern transportation to reach deeper into Russia. The trains and ships carried agitators armed with leaflets, posters and other various forms of agitprop. The agitational trains expanded the reach of agitators into Eastern Europe, and allowed for the establishment of agitprop stations, consisting of libraries of propaganda material. The trains were also equipped with radios, and their own printing press, so they could report to Moscow the political climate of the given region, and receive instruction on how to custom print propaganda on the spot to better take advantage of the situation
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Censorship of the press: Bolshevik strategy from the beginning was to introduce censorship over the primary medium of information in the former Russian Empire in 1917, the newspaper.[7] The provisional government, born out of the March Revolution against the tsarist regime, abolished the age-old practice of censoring the press. This created free newspapers that survived on their own revenue. The Bolsheviks' power over the provisional government lay in the Petrograd Soviet of Workers’ and Soldiers’ Deputies, because they could shut down industry and government by calling in workers and soldiers to strike and demonstrate. This ability to orchestrate strikes was especially helpful in the newspaper printing factories because a strike would mean a large loss in revenue, and the inability to continue to operate. The capability of strikes allowed the Bolsheviks to shut down any newspaper they wanted, creating a highly effective censorship mechanism that put a stop to the voice of the opposition. Lenin took control of the socialist newspaper Pravda, making it an outlet to spread Bolshevik agitprop, articles, and other media. With the Bolshevik capability to censor and shut down newspapers of opposing or rival factions, Pravda was able to become the dominant source of written information for the population in regions controlled by the Red Army .[8]
Top: Woman, learn to read and write! Bottom: Oh, Mommy! If you were literate, you could help me! A poster by Elizaveta Kruglikova advocating female literacy dating from 1923
Oral-agitation networks: The Bolshevik leadership understood that to build a lasting regime, they would need to win the support of the mass population of Russian peasants. To do this, Lenin organized a Communist party that attracted demobilized soldiers and others to become indoctrinated in Bolshevik ideology, dressed up in uniforms and sent to travel the countryside as agitators to the peasants.[9] The oral-agitation networks established a presence in the isolated rural areas of Russia, expanding Communist power.
Agitational trains and ships: To expand the reach of the oral-agitation networks, the Bolsheviks pioneered using modern transportation to reach deeper into Russia. The trains and ships carried agitators armed with leaflets, posters and other various forms of agitprop. The agitational trains expanded the reach of agitators into Eastern Europe, and allowed for the establishment of agitprop stations, consisting of libraries of propaganda material. The trains were also equipped with radios, and their own printing press, so they could report to Moscow the political climate of the given region, and receive instruction on how to custom print propaganda on the spot to better take advantage of the situation
27 March 2017 20:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.powerthesaurus.org/agitprop
https://www.powerthesaurus.org/agitprop
27 March 2017 20:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.memidex.com/agitprop
http://www.memidex.com/agitprop
27 March 2017 20:08
Margus Meigo replied to Karen Anne Impas's comment.
if someone would know to say : )
27 March 2017 20:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
what a appropriate image..
27 March 2017 20:05
Margus Meigo replied to Margus Ivanov's comment.
Ossinovskaja on nüüd uus Rõivas v?
27 March 2017 18:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
there was some TV show from 80's end where women shared their story of terrible things what has been done to them and how nothing helped but one session mdma,
But 125 is important, to not more then this, as this is half amphetamine molecule and will get you bit your lips if taken more and health effects stop.
It is not a safe herb but hard core solution.
But mushrooms, magic ones, in woods, to discover who you really might be or what it is in this world .. well.
But 125 is important, to not more then this, as this is half amphetamine molecule and will get you bit your lips if taken more and health effects stop.
It is not a safe herb but hard core solution.
But mushrooms, magic ones, in woods, to discover who you really might be or what it is in this world .. well.
27 March 2017 13:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Old news but still, new for many
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhhi9H8fNdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhhi9H8fNdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhhi9H8fNdc
27 March 2017 13:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mdma is also good solution but this one is to good and only fast fix, ... can also last for life but have to be careful to NOT use this as medicament to take more then twice per year or you can make another kind of damage for your happy pill
google depression and mdma,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngX7bxEuOWk
google depression and mdma,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngX7bxEuOWk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngX7bxEuOWk
27 March 2017 13:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
it is hard work to "try to stay positive"
understanding have to be, why is needed, why is useful to be,
but most important, is to just be and a bit understand why you are happy. and then be, looking not reason for it but to know, that this is at least one thing you can do for yourself, to attract more goodness in coming years ..
Also , take magic mushrooms in nature more then once
understanding have to be, why is needed, why is useful to be,
but most important, is to just be and a bit understand why you are happy. and then be, looking not reason for it but to know, that this is at least one thing you can do for yourself, to attract more goodness in coming years ..
Also , take magic mushrooms in nature more then once
27 March 2017 13:21
Margus Meigo commented on Maranda Kidd's post.
do not take this personally silly bird, being alone is a new thing now in last 50 years, i guess no one warned You... the trick is ... they show in media and movies how everyone is together (or at least small group of people) and in reality dark forces (or stupidity as scientist call it) working hard to separate all humans so they can be controlled more easily to submission for controlling other people. .
Then they provide all kind of drugs, medicament's and entertainment and pain fetishes various groups of sickness masqueraded as alternative life to beat you self even more up by letting yourself drain out of life and true friends or family who is caring (as if there is not much in left in us what we know what to share then not much is left.. as i told You before.. this what we live outside, to get few likes and cheer's .. to get likes for a nice butt in erotic cam in last attempt.. well. do they Really care in the end? Some of them, man do... but it takes time to search for it... and really search for it.. and spend your time directly to them, not being afraid to ask from them.. do they want you focus your online time to them now on more.. one man at the time... only way to find some real man anyway.. to to others as You would like in ideal world to do for you )
Then they provide all kind of drugs, medicament's and entertainment and pain fetishes various groups of sickness masqueraded as alternative life to beat you self even more up by letting yourself drain out of life and true friends or family who is caring (as if there is not much in left in us what we know what to share then not much is left.. as i told You before.. this what we live outside, to get few likes and cheer's .. to get likes for a nice butt in erotic cam in last attempt.. well. do they Really care in the end? Some of them, man do... but it takes time to search for it... and really search for it.. and spend your time directly to them, not being afraid to ask from them.. do they want you focus your online time to them now on more.. one man at the time... only way to find some real man anyway.. to to others as You would like in ideal world to do for you )
27 March 2017 13:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Eestlaste kolmnurk
ei , lihula vist mitte, linna levis enne juba26 March 2017 01:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Eestlaste kolmnurk
Sünnikoht: Paeküla, Komuun: märjamaa, levikohad, Käru, Lihula26 March 2017 01:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Eestlaste kolmnurk
varem meil oli isegi see vestlus meeles, millest see sündis, aga praegu enam mitte, aga see oli piisavalt naljakas, et ellu jääda26 March 2017 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on Karlos Olen Kahre's post.
Group: Eestlaste kolmnurk
Kui keegi vaid teaks, et mina ja mu kadunud sõber Alari Rohtoja selle killu meinstreemi tõi, kui õigesti mäletan üle 20 a tagasi26 March 2017 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Anime Shaman. Cyber, Nature, Japan Manga, Matrix, Messianic
Another lists in here, but here, is all kinds..
http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=mainhttp://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=main
26 March 2017 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to Shanti Forte's comment.
every thing else u can make top of it.. but the main life and main age... is not connected perhaps to only to THIS one body in here, what is related to you
26 March 2017 00:26
Margus Meigo replied to Shanti Forte's comment.
No man has past 6000 year known to be more then 120 (only a women),
so as long this has not happen..
You think with all the money in the world, D Rockefeller would not have used some of this tech
so yea, for me this tech reversal of age is so lame anyway for now .. there is enough time in a world if to work multidimensional, i would rather focus on to get in to love... so you can after left in here get all the life there is
so as long this has not happen..
You think with all the money in the world, D Rockefeller would not have used some of this tech
so yea, for me this tech reversal of age is so lame anyway for now .. there is enough time in a world if to work multidimensional, i would rather focus on to get in to love... so you can after left in here get all the life there is
26 March 2017 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
aga kes on?
25 March 2017 07:51
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
naine on tal tubli,
vaatamata mehe välisele näivale mehaanilisele jahedusele
vaatamata mehe välisele näivale mehaanilisele jahedusele
25 March 2017 01:31
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Forte's post.
another known way to live forever is to be a lovable person, and then the one who loves You, this women, will make sure, that You will not be improperly refurbished.
As God told to Jews 5000+ years ago, that the cap that was set generally for humans is 120 (for unbelievers: yea how they now that..
Normal age it self was much more before that but this age is not compared to the age how much time fits inside Your one life if lived proper and what is waiting for you if you love..... but for now the situations are a bit depressing, people some lose point to life when they get older, this is reverted to what it should be.
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... For now, last of the problem is that we not live enough of time.. but problem is that people not know why and how to live
--- d,
Well, there is One human in modern age known to live longer then 120, a women, ( and next 10 oldest people in a world is also a women.
In fact, there have been only sometimes, some Japanese man who has been able to be in a top 20 oldest people list, )
As God told to Jews 5000+ years ago, that the cap that was set generally for humans is 120 (for unbelievers: yea how they now that..
Normal age it self was much more before that but this age is not compared to the age how much time fits inside Your one life if lived proper and what is waiting for you if you love..... but for now the situations are a bit depressing, people some lose point to life when they get older, this is reverted to what it should be.
.
... For now, last of the problem is that we not live enough of time.. but problem is that people not know why and how to live
--- d,
Well, there is One human in modern age known to live longer then 120, a women, ( and next 10 oldest people in a world is also a women.
In fact, there have been only sometimes, some Japanese man who has been able to be in a top 20 oldest people list, )
24 March 2017 10:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lisaks sisalikkude klipile on muidugi see ka üks parimaid:
nii reaalne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtgCSf3vjh0&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=41
nii reaalne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtgCSf3vjh0&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=41
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtgCSf3vjh0&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=41
24 March 2017 09:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vot nii tehakse muutusi,
jäävad kestma ka 50 aastat hiljem, kui nende lühifilmidemitmekülgsest sügavusest rohkem aru saadakse
jäävad kestma ka 50 aastat hiljem, kui nende lühifilmidemitmekülgsest sügavusest rohkem aru saadakse
24 March 2017 09:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Põlevkivi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2rdE-MbyfA&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2rdE-MbyfA&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2rdE-MbyfA&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=28
24 March 2017 09:00
Margus Meigo commented on Eestimaa Rohelised's photo.
Kuid jah, ilusat vaatamist ja mõtlemist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUFRBcRfJjM&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUFRBcRfJjM&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUFRBcRfJjM&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=3
24 March 2017 08:53
Margus Meigo replied to Mirjam Pullerits's comment.
Meditatsiooni ja Usu energiat peaks ka promoma, see annab vahest rohkem sooja kui lahja kütmine,
ning rahulikus säästab inimese närve, energiakulu ja teeb toimetamise kasulikumaks ja hoolivamaks looduse suhtes.
Seega rohkem maagilisi seeni, usku jms, kui loodusest päriselt hoolida.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUFRBcRfJjM&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=3
ning rahulikus säästab inimese närve, energiakulu ja teeb toimetamise kasulikumaks ja hoolivamaks looduse suhtes.
Seega rohkem maagilisi seeni, usku jms, kui loodusest päriselt hoolida.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUFRBcRfJjM&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUFRBcRfJjM&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=3
24 March 2017 08:52
Margus Meigo commented on John Greenewald's post.
Group: The Black Vault - UFOs, Conspiracies, Cover-Ups and Controversies
I was living on island for years, next to radio freee europe, on island from where Little Boy and Fat man was picked up
new age ships still park in there now, guarding Pacific24 March 2017 06:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
24 March 2017 06:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://twitter.com/Berkadia/status/841369151583244288
24 March 2017 05:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
this https://twitter.com/oldskoolflipfon/status/824988536512401408
on the wall of that https://twitter.com/hashtag/FlawlessExecution
makes u wonder, what weapon you choose
on the wall of that https://twitter.com/hashtag/FlawlessExecution
makes u wonder, what weapon you choose
https://twitter.com/oldskoolflipfon/status/824988536512401408
24 March 2017 05:52
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
And hard to spoil it to you... but Yor views are not because of that different, that You are in America,
they are pretty ordinary in most country's, including among here and UK or Nordic lands among libertarians,
just you have put more thought in to it and take it more productively, wishing to progress
This is why, i feel no surprise on the positions
as you told :
"Your conservatard colors are showing. The thing about democracy is that, regardless or what someone else may be planning, it gives me a chance to have at least SOME measure of a plan of my own"
yeah, the thing is that we do not want "SOME measure" of plan but complete, plan that is in reach of human potential. Not that everyone is a little bit tied to slavery so in the end it is just one ties up slave camp.
Capitalism does not exploit, people, spirits do.
Capitalism is really, pretty harmless of its own, one of the oldest communication form in earth, unlike ideology's like these that starts to re-interpret human fundamental good proven fundament's, just because, it is better for parental complex people and for slave keepers in the end.
Of course i have romantic view of this poor little capitalism, and i plan to save that as well,
from the mighty jars of this what is behind a communism, for now capitalism is just one of the tools for communism.
in a way it is like a computer, it is what you do with it, and how you set the computer up (what pre programmed limitations, features ) but because we are under satanic communism still, then capitalism is not allowed to praise these things that bring value to human species on same scale as for example, propaganda that works for destruction of value.
Capitalism does not produce weapons, police, cocial control, prisons nor wars,
or will you want to blame, 1940's commies for extreme capitalism?
What does do it , is thinking and demonic traits that come from communism, from ungodliness,
i got no problem understanding what people do wrong with a money, ... but more wrong is to pretend that it is money that is doing it.
Poor people rape also and beat and steal, did you know?
and at times, even more i would assume, if they are under bad spells and spirits... rich one more often can try to go and look for help at least, poor will fuel with hatred and lack of options even more justifying ones actions.
I have been in many lands, it has not been greatly different in nowhere. Same ideology's pervert humans same way.
i always stand up for these who has been suppressed and treated honestly, unfairly and disrespectfully, and for current case these are D. Rockefeller, Clinton's, Gates, Jews, nazis, but most of all woman, and family.
if we to focus only to humans for now.
Not sure who would dare to stand up for animals and nature as much natzis did,
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater
they are pretty ordinary in most country's, including among here and UK or Nordic lands among libertarians,
just you have put more thought in to it and take it more productively, wishing to progress
This is why, i feel no surprise on the positions
as you told :
"Your conservatard colors are showing. The thing about democracy is that, regardless or what someone else may be planning, it gives me a chance to have at least SOME measure of a plan of my own"
yeah, the thing is that we do not want "SOME measure" of plan but complete, plan that is in reach of human potential. Not that everyone is a little bit tied to slavery so in the end it is just one ties up slave camp.
Capitalism does not exploit, people, spirits do.
Capitalism is really, pretty harmless of its own, one of the oldest communication form in earth, unlike ideology's like these that starts to re-interpret human fundamental good proven fundament's, just because, it is better for parental complex people and for slave keepers in the end.
Of course i have romantic view of this poor little capitalism, and i plan to save that as well,
from the mighty jars of this what is behind a communism, for now capitalism is just one of the tools for communism.
in a way it is like a computer, it is what you do with it, and how you set the computer up (what pre programmed limitations, features ) but because we are under satanic communism still, then capitalism is not allowed to praise these things that bring value to human species on same scale as for example, propaganda that works for destruction of value.
Capitalism does not produce weapons, police, cocial control, prisons nor wars,
or will you want to blame, 1940's commies for extreme capitalism?
What does do it , is thinking and demonic traits that come from communism, from ungodliness,
i got no problem understanding what people do wrong with a money, ... but more wrong is to pretend that it is money that is doing it.
Poor people rape also and beat and steal, did you know?
and at times, even more i would assume, if they are under bad spells and spirits... rich one more often can try to go and look for help at least, poor will fuel with hatred and lack of options even more justifying ones actions.
I have been in many lands, it has not been greatly different in nowhere. Same ideology's pervert humans same way.
i always stand up for these who has been suppressed and treated honestly, unfairly and disrespectfully, and for current case these are D. Rockefeller, Clinton's, Gates, Jews, nazis, but most of all woman, and family.
if we to focus only to humans for now.
Not sure who would dare to stand up for animals and nature as much natzis did,
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater
24 March 2017 04:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Was it cooler to give consent to a president of.."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHllLxa8Kws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHllLxa8Kws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHllLxa8Kws
24 March 2017 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yea.. me not my own, would be even not if would be my choice to have, a choice.
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Translation also helps not so much:
"February. Get ink, shed tears. Write of it, sob your heart out, sing, While torrential slush that roars Burns in the blackness of the spring."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BMUA0f_sps
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Translation also helps not so much:
"February. Get ink, shed tears. Write of it, sob your heart out, sing, While torrential slush that roars Burns in the blackness of the spring."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BMUA0f_sps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BMUA0f_sps
24 March 2017 03:57
Margus Meigo replied to Alan Dorchak's comment.
still makes my eyes water a bit
24 March 2017 03:54
Margus Meigo replied to Alan Dorchak's comment.
all the money he got and the fact he is part of soviet take over, does not bother me so much,
it is he's and their business, but if someone is bad to a female and disrespectful example for a female child even in so high positions.. well.. this is red light what no one in normal mind should ever ignore, ever, if we want to stay species that will stay here
(but the Star people (the ones who put stars on their flags and symbols etc) are not so much in to about digging earth anyway, so what they care... they wanna fly away and after that ... well.. for some reason regina spectr song come to mind,)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BMUA0f_sps
it is he's and their business, but if someone is bad to a female and disrespectful example for a female child even in so high positions.. well.. this is red light what no one in normal mind should ever ignore, ever, if we want to stay species that will stay here
(but the Star people (the ones who put stars on their flags and symbols etc) are not so much in to about digging earth anyway, so what they care... they wanna fly away and after that ... well.. for some reason regina spectr song come to mind,)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BMUA0f_sps
24 March 2017 03:43
Margus Meigo replied to Alan Dorchak's comment.
as looking how unhappy she looks, even on most important events that only few woman in earth can rise from so low to so high, ... and to stay sad, depressed, morn... it takes some really deep and dark, bad things someone have to do and say to a women, to make her feel so, so strongly that even makeup and best light's can not hide it for few minutes
24 March 2017 03:38
Margus Meigo replied to Alan Dorchak's comment.
this is one thing.. but another time, some proper creep,
proper dark creep .. kind of dude from who you would first hide your daughter, in all ages, and wife as well, and maybe even your other children.. this kind of dude told on live, in radio to trump... "yeah. mman.. Your daughter... she is .. PIECE OF AAAS!!! "
(and they always know who they talk about as he would have one daughter..)
and trump was: YEAAAH!
(normal father would punch other one in to face for that and in that position as trump would close down entire radio station top of few other things .... and lets not even get in to how much sorry i feel for his wife who is forced to be with him )
proper dark creep .. kind of dude from who you would first hide your daughter, in all ages, and wife as well, and maybe even your other children.. this kind of dude told on live, in radio to trump... "yeah. mman.. Your daughter... she is .. PIECE OF AAAS!!! "
(and they always know who they talk about as he would have one daughter..)
and trump was: YEAAAH!
(normal father would punch other one in to face for that and in that position as trump would close down entire radio station top of few other things .... and lets not even get in to how much sorry i feel for his wife who is forced to be with him )
24 March 2017 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
no this kind of deals are dangerous and in fact they are hidden totalitarian like in hidden form,
it is not as bad as this terrible telling "lets agree to not disagree" but it just might be in that direction.
This is how communists come to power, first they train everyone not to judge to much and let everyone be their own way, or ignore all together,...as "Human right" an "privacy" . and then when was to late, there was nothing to ignore anymore.
So yea, Judge me hard, this is only way we get better and closer
it is not as bad as this terrible telling "lets agree to not disagree" but it just might be in that direction.
This is how communists come to power, first they train everyone not to judge to much and let everyone be their own way, or ignore all together,...as "Human right" an "privacy" . and then when was to late, there was nothing to ignore anymore.
So yea, Judge me hard, this is only way we get better and closer
24 March 2017 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on Raul Hunt's post.
Kuid jah, kuna sellised mehed Strassman, McKenna, Wilson.. teavad Jim DeKorne't kiita, siis ju ta ikka lugemist väärt on.
Mitte, et nad lõplikud autoriteed oleksid, sest nad ikkagi polnud piisavalt konservatiivsed minu jaoks, ja lubasid liialt pehmust ja puudujääke olulises oma suure tarkuse vahepeal,
arvestamatta millest maailm kõigeenam puudust tunneb.. (lähedusest, imtiimsusest, kodust, farmindusest, ja julgus nõuda muutusi ning instruktsioone jagada kuidas seda teha.. kuidas riiki aidata oli nende suurim puudujääk sest nad keskendusid süsteemi mahajätmisele, arusaamata, et see iseenesest on progressi takistav toiming suures plaanis, sest lubab palju takistusi seada neile kes node asjadega, mõtetega, psyhedeelsete toimetustega seotud)
Mitte, et nad lõplikud autoriteed oleksid, sest nad ikkagi polnud piisavalt konservatiivsed minu jaoks, ja lubasid liialt pehmust ja puudujääke olulises oma suure tarkuse vahepeal,
arvestamatta millest maailm kõigeenam puudust tunneb.. (lähedusest, imtiimsusest, kodust, farmindusest, ja julgus nõuda muutusi ning instruktsioone jagada kuidas seda teha.. kuidas riiki aidata oli nende suurim puudujääk sest nad keskendusid süsteemi mahajätmisele, arusaamata, et see iseenesest on progressi takistav toiming suures plaanis, sest lubab palju takistusi seada neile kes node asjadega, mõtetega, psyhedeelsete toimetustega seotud)
24 March 2017 03:23
Margus Meigo commented on Raul Hunt's post.
On see hea või mitte, et seda teeb?
24 March 2017 03:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
against democracy as well
24 March 2017 03:00
Margus Meigo commented on Ivar Kont's post.
Group: In Black We Trust
i got red and green one like this;
the towel24 March 2017 02:59
Margus Meigo commented on Margus von Einmann's post.
Group: In Black We Trust
yea, remember this nights24 March 2017 02:59
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
Hey, sorry also i try to insult,
(but not a person but a ideology / postion)
But at times, that is only way i know to separate and analyze who is made of what material,
if human keeps up normal talk, then most likely is good kind or emotionally adult,
Will be later at night again in the treat, to get to round 2 about Hillary vs. Patriarchy :p
(about her,was the energy that her election would have hopefully activated in needed people/woman to start to believe and make change in their home and eventually in America, in World )
But all is still going on, and perhaps We hope, America is still smart enough to know what they are doing, in all we are optimistic, that if we all help a land who have helped others, then we get it alRight !
(but not a person but a ideology / postion)
But at times, that is only way i know to separate and analyze who is made of what material,
if human keeps up normal talk, then most likely is good kind or emotionally adult,
Will be later at night again in the treat, to get to round 2 about Hillary vs. Patriarchy :p
(about her,was the energy that her election would have hopefully activated in needed people/woman to start to believe and make change in their home and eventually in America, in World )
But all is still going on, and perhaps We hope, America is still smart enough to know what they are doing, in all we are optimistic, that if we all help a land who have helped others, then we get it alRight !
23 March 2017 22:48
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
and good thing to see, made by americans, is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS8kuHZrN3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS8kuHZrN3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS8kuHZrN3A
23 March 2017 22:33
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
Alan, about elections,
once we eliminate the communist implemented "black box" what stops to see who voted for who
then basically we got one of the world most promising election system in here, but it is under suppression and problem is how people are allowed to vote, and that everyone's vote is equal. And is not tested if person even understand for what and why one votes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting_in_Estonia
https://e-estonia.com/component/i-voting/
We got systems that can not be manipulated and hacked, but it is not allowed to used proper open way...
to give a doubt..
but yea, we are on many rights top of the list, but from estonia point of vew, from Estonians point of view it is total slavery and idiocrazy
http://www.heritage.org/index/country/estonia
https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2016/estonia
http://www.ncbuy.com/reference/country/humanrights.html?code=en&sec=2a
http://150sec.com/how-e-residency-makes-it-possible-to-open-a-business-in-less-than-one-hour/
http://elmo.ee/estonia-becomes-the-first-in-the-world-to-open-a-nationwide-ev-fast-charging-network/
http://estonia-paradise-of-the-north.blogspot.com.ee/2013/10/estonian-world-records.html etc self boosting :P just first links that come on my figers
http://www.businessinsider.com/only-us-and-estonia-meeting-nato-budget-goal-2015-2
once we eliminate the communist implemented "black box" what stops to see who voted for who
then basically we got one of the world most promising election system in here, but it is under suppression and problem is how people are allowed to vote, and that everyone's vote is equal. And is not tested if person even understand for what and why one votes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting_in_Estonia
https://e-estonia.com/component/i-voting/
We got systems that can not be manipulated and hacked, but it is not allowed to used proper open way...
to give a doubt..
but yea, we are on many rights top of the list, but from estonia point of vew, from Estonians point of view it is total slavery and idiocrazy
http://www.heritage.org/index/country/estonia
https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2016/estonia
http://www.ncbuy.com/reference/country/humanrights.html?code=en&sec=2a
http://150sec.com/how-e-residency-makes-it-possible-to-open-a-business-in-less-than-one-hour/
http://elmo.ee/estonia-becomes-the-first-in-the-world-to-open-a-nationwide-ev-fast-charging-network/
http://estonia-paradise-of-the-north.blogspot.com.ee/2013/10/estonian-world-records.html etc self boosting :P just first links that come on my figers
http://www.businessinsider.com/only-us-and-estonia-meeting-nato-budget-goal-2015-2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting_in_Estonia
23 March 2017 22:32
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
I like You : )
(and this thread & Co.)
(and your confusions, positions, from anti-communistic point of view are nothing unordinary, extraordinary not, it is global program,
just i do my best i can, to inject my 2 cents to these, in the system, in the program, that can make change, as their voice or head matters. As they will go back between nests who get these ideas in to the heads., and then is enough if some of that, will give right direction.. )
And no need to be disappointed about democracy, or all of that,,
as this WAS made so, to inavde the earth, in cooperation with another innovation of Roman empire called communism.. and capitalism... the liberalism.. and democracy.. all is same group.. just another versions of tools and another platforms, democracy is the totalitarian order against what is impossible, not allowed to argue,
you can do against liberals, conservatives, pederasty or nazis.. but are not allowed to be reasonable and plan to eliminate demo(n)crazy, as main question will arise as from one mouth "well, with what would you replace it with.."
"do you know anything better"
(and this thread & Co.)
(and your confusions, positions, from anti-communistic point of view are nothing unordinary, extraordinary not, it is global program,
just i do my best i can, to inject my 2 cents to these, in the system, in the program, that can make change, as their voice or head matters. As they will go back between nests who get these ideas in to the heads., and then is enough if some of that, will give right direction.. )
And no need to be disappointed about democracy, or all of that,,
as this WAS made so, to inavde the earth, in cooperation with another innovation of Roman empire called communism.. and capitalism... the liberalism.. and democracy.. all is same group.. just another versions of tools and another platforms, democracy is the totalitarian order against what is impossible, not allowed to argue,
you can do against liberals, conservatives, pederasty or nazis.. but are not allowed to be reasonable and plan to eliminate demo(n)crazy, as main question will arise as from one mouth "well, with what would you replace it with.."
"do you know anything better"
23 March 2017 22:13
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
Sweet, thanks!
(answering to last 2 ones, would have taken less time then last comment, if it would be in heart, with out hesitation, just telling... if you have to think about it, more then a 5 seconds, then you have not figured it out as straight as in this world is needed, as You Do need to protect Hillary and Bill in this world, after you have discovered the proper dark evils that actually run around in this world, amazes that these kind of people are still alive and that they can even say as little they say and do as much good they do, even if that is just minimum amount compared to what we would like to see )
You see... you wrote assembler for the microchip and i have hard time figuring out solution for comparing stock inventory between one master CSV against bulk of other CSV's ... (and these small things are needed to get done, in hope i get some pay for my upcoming internet bill that is last thing that keeps me connected and gives hope to bring my work to a level that i can step out from a below poverty state where i got my self in to (and no benefits from state to me :D ..not that i would demand any, this would be disrespectful for my country.. but they do give free living to a immigrants and drunkards, just saying ) )
(answering to last 2 ones, would have taken less time then last comment, if it would be in heart, with out hesitation, just telling... if you have to think about it, more then a 5 seconds, then you have not figured it out as straight as in this world is needed, as You Do need to protect Hillary and Bill in this world, after you have discovered the proper dark evils that actually run around in this world, amazes that these kind of people are still alive and that they can even say as little they say and do as much good they do, even if that is just minimum amount compared to what we would like to see )
You see... you wrote assembler for the microchip and i have hard time figuring out solution for comparing stock inventory between one master CSV against bulk of other CSV's ... (and these small things are needed to get done, in hope i get some pay for my upcoming internet bill that is last thing that keeps me connected and gives hope to bring my work to a level that i can step out from a below poverty state where i got my self in to (and no benefits from state to me :D ..not that i would demand any, this would be disrespectful for my country.. but they do give free living to a immigrants and drunkards, just saying ) )
23 March 2017 21:55
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
Will it be Hillary or Donald ?
23 March 2017 21:53
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
i mean tell me at least,
if you need to save one person from burning house,
will it be Steve or Bil?
if you need to save one person from burning house,
will it be Steve or Bil?
23 March 2017 21:53
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
when a engineer and a business man start to make a computer company, then it is not a business man who i credit for a innovation, even if busines man finance make it possible
23 March 2017 21:52
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
well, Jobes can not be compared t Mike Wozniak, who actually invented something and did,
but if You think Mac and Mic is same... then news for You, it is a company policy of mac to NEWER make charity,
and Microsoft Eesti is world LARGEST unbeatable charitable organization who top of that made hes software so easy to pirate that whole world can use it.
But most of all, you ave to look ther faces... u see love from Gates face, he family life...
and another one .. well.. as u remeber, Mac went to market with price 666.66 dollars, ... they say it was just a joke.. no meaning on it..
but if You think Mac and Mic is same... then news for You, it is a company policy of mac to NEWER make charity,
and Microsoft Eesti is world LARGEST unbeatable charitable organization who top of that made hes software so easy to pirate that whole world can use it.
But most of all, you ave to look ther faces... u see love from Gates face, he family life...
and another one .. well.. as u remeber, Mac went to market with price 666.66 dollars, ... they say it was just a joke.. no meaning on it..
23 March 2017 21:50
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
Lol, You naive americans,... (in a good way)
Did YOU REALLY assumed, that "democrasy" was ANYTHING GOOD??
That it was EVER any other plan for it then destroy all freedom of natives, to destory royals, and control all sides?
Did YOU REALLY assumed, that "democrasy" was ANYTHING GOOD??
That it was EVER any other plan for it then destroy all freedom of natives, to destory royals, and control all sides?
23 March 2017 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
Well, it is easy to be against of what You see as these people SHOW what they do,as they not got grand evil plan against human species, directly., like some other powers,
And other powers work hard to present this infos like that for you.
have you realize, what would happen if communist would have dominated computer market?
Probably not, this is wy is easy to on about Gates.
And yes, i love Linux my self as well. But to complain about Gates actions by not understanding what might be if He would not be...
LIke the evil Mac for example... thye
And other powers work hard to present this infos like that for you.
have you realize, what would happen if communist would have dominated computer market?
Probably not, this is wy is easy to on about Gates.
And yes, i love Linux my self as well. But to complain about Gates actions by not understanding what might be if He would not be...
LIke the evil Mac for example... thye
23 March 2017 21:44
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
I will investigate Your previous answer now deeper,
just this is really.. something that is on domain of things of Loos http://patents.justia.com/inventor/hendricus-g-loos (Loos is meaning "inside story" in Estonian and also the masonic lodge)
just this is really.. something that is on domain of things of Loos http://patents.justia.com/inventor/hendricus-g-loos (Loos is meaning "inside story" in Estonian and also the masonic lodge)
http://patents.justia.com/inventor/hendricus-g-loos
23 March 2017 21:40
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
only when She and Him would work on SAME side, THEN you can some way say i not like one and another,
but when we are on the sides like that, then there is 2 sides only, in the end, and You make Your choice,
and how ironic it is, that a Blue Republican like, conservative .. anti liberal is telling you to step up and choose one or another side, and is happy to announce that As i got standards i chose correct side, that is Hillary
but when we are on the sides like that, then there is 2 sides only, in the end, and You make Your choice,
and how ironic it is, that a Blue Republican like, conservative .. anti liberal is telling you to step up and choose one or another side, and is happy to announce that As i got standards i chose correct side, that is Hillary
23 March 2017 21:37
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
When You step against Her,
how ever much you say "well i not like trump also"
what you actually telling,that you bend over to trump, suck on communists and capitalist slave keepers elite (same group in the end) and you step against women, to the dark side of women dishonoring force
this is like selling a soul to a devil basically, this is what it is about really,
how ever much you say "well i not like trump also"
what you actually telling,that you bend over to trump, suck on communists and capitalist slave keepers elite (same group in the end) and you step against women, to the dark side of women dishonoring force
this is like selling a soul to a devil basically, this is what it is about really,
23 March 2017 21:34
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
we have not to look, HER but against WHO she stand, the world HIGH class TOP powers of OUR PLANET,
the Roman empire basically,
Russia and USA Deep masonic cults,
Bill gates is totally normal person and good one,
how you let Your mind to be so poisoned?
the Roman empire basically,
Russia and USA Deep masonic cults,
Bill gates is totally normal person and good one,
how you let Your mind to be so poisoned?
23 March 2017 21:32
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
i still do not get the point, from it,
what uber rich she sell out to, Bill Gates? the owener of Yahoo? These are normal people, many of them are friends and co-workers,
what uber rich she sell out to, Bill Gates? the owener of Yahoo? These are normal people, many of them are friends and co-workers,
23 March 2017 21:30
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
trump used totally another channels, bitcoin and crypto currency that no one knows and can trace, and other online methods from another sources, so it looked like it has nothing to do with him
23 March 2017 21:28
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
1.2 billion
Good, that sounds reasonable,
as i told, half a billion would be total minimum, below that would be a joke
Good, that sounds reasonable,
as i told, half a billion would be total minimum, below that would be a joke
23 March 2017 21:27
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
The point what we have to not get our self distracted with .. " I have confirmed the information that the video described. Specifically, Hillary Clinton and the National Democratic Party used the state parties to work around the limits on individual campaign contributions "
THIS IS PROOF THAT THEY ARE GOOD, not that it is bad thing they did,
there is NOTHING bad about it, bad is that there is the limitation, THIS is the bad thing, not that they worked hard to skip the limitation and even then, it did not work as You only are able to get million per person at most,
but these who got a lot, is not so many, that million would make any effort, even if there is 50 of them who can give a million only.
THIS IS PROOF THAT THEY ARE GOOD, not that it is bad thing they did,
there is NOTHING bad about it, bad is that there is the limitation, THIS is the bad thing, not that they worked hard to skip the limitation and even then, it did not work as You only are able to get million per person at most,
but these who got a lot, is not so many, that million would make any effort, even if there is 50 of them who can give a million only.
23 March 2017 21:26
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
anyway the The fund raised only $61 million,
does not sound so powerful anymore as telling "Billionaires funneled money my many sources for years"
does not sound so powerful anymore as telling "Billionaires funneled money my many sources for years"
23 March 2017 21:22
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
Well jeff,
TYT did not point out nothing really, they not even telling the numbers as then they propaganda joke would then be not so effective.
Half a Billion dollars would be MINIMUM normal amount Her MODERATE campaign would need, minimum
So how much did she get? Not so much more i bet,
Give me the numbers
TYT did not point out nothing really, they not even telling the numbers as then they propaganda joke would then be not so effective.
Half a Billion dollars would be MINIMUM normal amount Her MODERATE campaign would need, minimum
So how much did she get? Not so much more i bet,
Give me the numbers
23 March 2017 21:12
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
it is under totalitarian democratic suppression called as "Free Republic" to give humans a illusion like they would have an option, but actually we have to choose only between left and right and always it have to be Democratic thing we choose (well, at least openly communistic is not allowed, or rather we would physically kick up the ones who come under this name on to elections, so they have not.. so they just controll with this fake left and right part's 2 sides, as all democratic lands )
23 March 2017 21:10
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
we should fight AGAINST these limitations, that totalitarian control, communist control, that people are not allowed to give whatever amount they want to a human, they have to play some retarded game, and funnel money by many people and organizations financing all the other middle man who do not need,
yes it is nice they did it, this effort, but it is discriminate this good act is allowed to bring up as something negative
freaking maxsist puppets
yes it is nice they did it, this effort, but it is discriminate this good act is allowed to bring up as something negative
freaking maxsist puppets
23 March 2017 21:06
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
yes
23 March 2017 21:05
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
You still not getting it,
How can you be so strongly libtarded cmmuistic and blinded,
i just started to assume you are smarter then this.
and then you get fooled by this propaganda?? Are you serious ???
MONEY LONDONER and Crime to help??? REALLY,
In my country it is called love.
THIS is issue that this traps and nets are made, that humans can not REALLY help their candidate,
it is made, so if billionaire comes, then they have all te guns and normal people can not do nothing, even Bill Gates can not do nothing,
after all hard effort, extreme effort it takes 2 years to get her a 1.3 million only???
Are we kidding here, opponent is a trump, with billions
How can you be so strongly libtarded cmmuistic and blinded,
i just started to assume you are smarter then this.
and then you get fooled by this propaganda?? Are you serious ???
MONEY LONDONER and Crime to help??? REALLY,
In my country it is called love.
THIS is issue that this traps and nets are made, that humans can not REALLY help their candidate,
it is made, so if billionaire comes, then they have all te guns and normal people can not do nothing, even Bill Gates can not do nothing,
after all hard effort, extreme effort it takes 2 years to get her a 1.3 million only???
Are we kidding here, opponent is a trump, with billions
23 March 2017 21:04
Margus Meigo commented on The Young Turks's video.
This guy is like total communist innit?
Long way he arrived to after 15 years...
Normal people would argue, that it is so unfair, that people have to see so hard effort, to give whatever amount money they want to give, .. instead this ..... "dude" making it sound that people who saw a effort, to help her did like something bad?? Are you lost your mind ?
Well. lets say the business deals Trump got for hes online troll army.. ooh.. as he is BILLIONAIRE we not need to worry about that.. innit. And respect for him for that,
And what is the money they talk about, normal people would start about the numbers, if they want to make honest report.
And it was not money laundering,
must be retarded to think so.
it is caring about your country and helping a person. even if communists have tricked country to make structure so that NO one can give money to person who they love or need.
THIS is issue, that we got this structure, not this that people saw effort to by pass tis silly bad evil structure that stops supporting your candidate against millionaire or who ever.
Can You imagine, You Bill Gates, want to help a country, and You can only give 10 000 to Hillary ? This is like perversion., this structure have to be removed, it is totalitarian, communistic
Long way he arrived to after 15 years...
Normal people would argue, that it is so unfair, that people have to see so hard effort, to give whatever amount money they want to give, .. instead this ..... "dude" making it sound that people who saw a effort, to help her did like something bad?? Are you lost your mind ?
Well. lets say the business deals Trump got for hes online troll army.. ooh.. as he is BILLIONAIRE we not need to worry about that.. innit. And respect for him for that,
And what is the money they talk about, normal people would start about the numbers, if they want to make honest report.
And it was not money laundering,
must be retarded to think so.
it is caring about your country and helping a person. even if communists have tricked country to make structure so that NO one can give money to person who they love or need.
THIS is issue, that we got this structure, not this that people saw effort to by pass tis silly bad evil structure that stops supporting your candidate against millionaire or who ever.
Can You imagine, You Bill Gates, want to help a country, and You can only give 10 000 to Hillary ? This is like perversion., this structure have to be removed, it is totalitarian, communistic
23 March 2017 21:00
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
and then this liberal hairless man makes sound, as it would have been bad thing to decide, that they Choose Her as a main candidate.
WAS there anyone in HER level to even come a little close to her qualifications and background ?
NO .. but communist minded make it sound like that would have been bad thing "they decided behind a door, with out asking from the ones who are against her... pla pla "
cry me a river, okey, i will see what is in other half of video,
You do not need to ask from everyone when decision is smart but you need to act on it, if you want to get anything done,
and unfortunately Clinton campaign was too soft and pressed to lightly on issues (and most she did press on was edited out from media, presented wrong) when it come personal, they should have been active task force to clean out false propaganda and mind manipulation's from media and internet, ... try to get in contact with her back then to give guidance but was not able to get troughs.
WAS there anyone in HER level to even come a little close to her qualifications and background ?
NO .. but communist minded make it sound like that would have been bad thing "they decided behind a door, with out asking from the ones who are against her... pla pla "
cry me a river, okey, i will see what is in other half of video,
You do not need to ask from everyone when decision is smart but you need to act on it, if you want to get anything done,
and unfortunately Clinton campaign was too soft and pressed to lightly on issues (and most she did press on was edited out from media, presented wrong) when it come personal, they should have been active task force to clean out false propaganda and mind manipulation's from media and internet, ... try to get in contact with her back then to give guidance but was not able to get troughs.
23 March 2017 20:51
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
Really, You bring YONGTurks as Your source of information, do you know the level their minds are liberated from morals compared to the beginning of times when they started 15 y ago?
ayway, will go and listen what he is making theater about
as he always directs your thoughts with hes acting and emotjons, not being on the side of any big one, in heart, ever
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For example, first part of video, is totally normal and nothing wrong that this was done, it is called co operation and support:
What kind of "voting" anyone needs for so ordinary normal logical thing, people should be allowed to give money in cash, in millions to ANYONE they want, in dark night if they wish, it is communistic, to try to control this, and a sick as well,
ad if that influences some one well.. sometimes it does, sometimes not, usually is normal that you remember your friends and look in to THEIR needs who support you on hard times more deeply, at first, and so their things get solved first, and there is only so much time.. so others can not be looked in to even, and that is okey mostly
(not telling, that everyone who makes donations, will use it good way, but it is retarded to make it sound as it is bad thing to do)
ayway, will go and listen what he is making theater about
as he always directs your thoughts with hes acting and emotjons, not being on the side of any big one, in heart, ever
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For example, first part of video, is totally normal and nothing wrong that this was done, it is called co operation and support:
What kind of "voting" anyone needs for so ordinary normal logical thing, people should be allowed to give money in cash, in millions to ANYONE they want, in dark night if they wish, it is communistic, to try to control this, and a sick as well,
ad if that influences some one well.. sometimes it does, sometimes not, usually is normal that you remember your friends and look in to THEIR needs who support you on hard times more deeply, at first, and so their things get solved first, and there is only so much time.. so others can not be looked in to even, and that is okey mostly
(not telling, that everyone who makes donations, will use it good way, but it is retarded to make it sound as it is bad thing to do)
23 March 2017 20:39
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
Well, so for clarification,
as clearly you have think about it a lot, not just running mouth as suspected first,
1) what are the reforms again that YOU think is needed, few main ones and why, (and who is doing/ stopping it)
2) what are reforms/conspiracies that are most dangerous, hurting that is ongoing and what is about to come and why
3) what are the "2 faced " things about Clinton, when she told bad about someone , behind some one back, and then in secret go to the one who she talked about and talked bad to the first one in return pretending to be a friend and clearly sharing with enemy hurting information not just making secret or extra plan about them (as we need to know WHY she wrote to who and what... i also have written to Putin, also wishing co operation , can this mean i sell out Estonia ? No i do it FOR Estonia and for Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia (also my old pagethat Russia took from me) and for a world )
as clearly you have think about it a lot, not just running mouth as suspected first,
1) what are the reforms again that YOU think is needed, few main ones and why, (and who is doing/ stopping it)
2) what are reforms/conspiracies that are most dangerous, hurting that is ongoing and what is about to come and why
3) what are the "2 faced " things about Clinton, when she told bad about someone , behind some one back, and then in secret go to the one who she talked about and talked bad to the first one in return pretending to be a friend and clearly sharing with enemy hurting information not just making secret or extra plan about them (as we need to know WHY she wrote to who and what... i also have written to Putin, also wishing co operation , can this mean i sell out Estonia ? No i do it FOR Estonia and for Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia (also my old pagethat Russia took from me) and for a world )
23 March 2017 20:38
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
Well i am more then sure, that this what You tell is just haw it is represented,
i have not jet found any serious global danger she had done from ALL the news and wikileaks that was connected to her,
Nearly all it was communist satanic liberal propaganda against her, making sound as She was some great only rule maker who was able to do this and that,
ignoring thousands of people around Her, one more powerful then another one, hundreds of foundations, things to cnsider, and things that they them self was not able to see from inside.
She does not have a much say in foundation as trump for example in His business, trump can literally send someone to drive over by car if needed, and can tell that to a person. Clinton, can you imagine she telling it?
(and yes, the "Clinton investigator" was assassinated by anti Clinton people, to make everyone assume She did)
i know software developers, who invented great products, are owners of it, and then after a years tricking them to sing it as foundation (to "protect" it so "corporations can not get it" ), they by now are pushed off from a board, including all who supported him vocaly, and they have no right to say ANYTHING anymore, not even owning the website, or what direction software can go or not.
Even as they was looked as hereos in beginning, who made it all (Simple machines forum just one example)
So it is MUCH more harder for Clinton,
and when co operating with many sides, it is not a two faced, it is usually good trait
i have not jet found any serious global danger she had done from ALL the news and wikileaks that was connected to her,
Nearly all it was communist satanic liberal propaganda against her, making sound as She was some great only rule maker who was able to do this and that,
ignoring thousands of people around Her, one more powerful then another one, hundreds of foundations, things to cnsider, and things that they them self was not able to see from inside.
She does not have a much say in foundation as trump for example in His business, trump can literally send someone to drive over by car if needed, and can tell that to a person. Clinton, can you imagine she telling it?
(and yes, the "Clinton investigator" was assassinated by anti Clinton people, to make everyone assume She did)
i know software developers, who invented great products, are owners of it, and then after a years tricking them to sing it as foundation (to "protect" it so "corporations can not get it" ), they by now are pushed off from a board, including all who supported him vocaly, and they have no right to say ANYTHING anymore, not even owning the website, or what direction software can go or not.
Even as they was looked as hereos in beginning, who made it all (Simple machines forum just one example)
So it is MUCH more harder for Clinton,
and when co operating with many sides, it is not a two faced, it is usually good trait
23 March 2017 20:23
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
what is "devoted butt-kicking, anti-libertaritard liberal"
is that oxymoron ?
Actually do not take my words hard, they not really a insults, just showing a borders,
and attitude like that can only be used, if someone does make so extreme errors, as comparing Clintons with Trumps
They are REALLY different,
not telling even who is better, (as it is clear by outer image and by past knowledge, positions, that Clinton's are) but they are from a different world, different rules, this is Why Donald J. Trump who is from mafia, extreme finance and economic power elite (these ones who MAKE politicians and News channels).. them play with totally another rules and another level of illusions as they can,
but the ones who have political empire and Royal connections, they have to play more nice in fear all the others who they might hurt by their hard actions,
trump is backed by some really hardcore hidden powers, and last thing they worry about is poisoning a connections, they have another kind of brotherhoods, .. and in whole, we sill as he is a president just give him a respect, that he show to people what is possible, against all adds,
this is great lesson and for sure, USA, real USA it self, will use Him for some good things as well, what would be hard to do with Clinton like people..
Clinton was trapped another way by Russian controlled liberals, this is why she was so harsh about it all, as they know
is that oxymoron ?
Actually do not take my words hard, they not really a insults, just showing a borders,
and attitude like that can only be used, if someone does make so extreme errors, as comparing Clintons with Trumps
They are REALLY different,
not telling even who is better, (as it is clear by outer image and by past knowledge, positions, that Clinton's are) but they are from a different world, different rules, this is Why Donald J. Trump who is from mafia, extreme finance and economic power elite (these ones who MAKE politicians and News channels).. them play with totally another rules and another level of illusions as they can,
but the ones who have political empire and Royal connections, they have to play more nice in fear all the others who they might hurt by their hard actions,
trump is backed by some really hardcore hidden powers, and last thing they worry about is poisoning a connections, they have another kind of brotherhoods, .. and in whole, we sill as he is a president just give him a respect, that he show to people what is possible, against all adds,
this is great lesson and for sure, USA, real USA it self, will use Him for some good things as well, what would be hard to do with Clinton like people..
Clinton was trapped another way by Russian controlled liberals, this is why she was so harsh about it all, as they know
23 March 2017 20:15
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
Well, Clintons are not ricin,and my English might be poor but my thinking and understanding is by far more superior by any standards to any libtard who (i just use for first time this word,now, i think it means a liberal who does not understand who one is) who assumes that Clinton should not have used the foundation for influence.
For what this foundation was if not making world better?
This kind of childish ignorant naive understanding of world, finance and international politics, that humans should not use ALL they got to save a country.
My criticism is that they used to Little, to soft and sucked up to much criticism,
htye should have been MUCH more stronger and up front, and open,
and they should have been proud about emails that leaked, as this shows She did and was and is working, actually WORKING hard, not just collecting position money for nothing.
She was for Matriarchy, against Patriarchy, this is why she did not get there, as they got values, and they also wanted to open up UFO files but this is another topic.. Clinton try before.. was not able.. Obama told, "they will not let you" ..but as She is Women, Patriarchy was afraid a lot, as women have another kind of powers.. and they can be unpredictable (meaning, demanding Right after they have silenced... not just feeling "what can we do.." ).
For what this foundation was if not making world better?
This kind of childish ignorant naive understanding of world, finance and international politics, that humans should not use ALL they got to save a country.
My criticism is that they used to Little, to soft and sucked up to much criticism,
htye should have been MUCH more stronger and up front, and open,
and they should have been proud about emails that leaked, as this shows She did and was and is working, actually WORKING hard, not just collecting position money for nothing.
She was for Matriarchy, against Patriarchy, this is why she did not get there, as they got values, and they also wanted to open up UFO files but this is another topic.. Clinton try before.. was not able.. Obama told, "they will not let you" ..but as She is Women, Patriarchy was afraid a lot, as women have another kind of powers.. and they can be unpredictable (meaning, demanding Right after they have silenced... not just feeling "what can we do.." ).
23 March 2017 20:07
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
Clinton's are no ricin,
and i am devoted anti liberal, right winded religious nutt, almost, and i can surely say, thay America Consciousness, perhaps was not ready for what She wanted to make (and true Liberal front would not let her anyway..), but the potential to stay in history books, as culture respect lacking savages, is much higher if people will look in far future back to the fact who was chosen and what was known when people did it..
Including that He IS Russian candidate to get USA off the World Police game, so Russia can step up, and to get the Real leader, State of Secretary position secured by Russians business and political interests, and in the end to emparish USA morally in eyes of all people,
in the end they will release, extreme dirt also about Trump when He is not needed anymore.. when he fails to obey .
dangerous game he Play, dangerous, most dangerous powers in human history he is sucking up to.. does he think, once you give a finder, they will let go ?
It takes God interference and great work from people to get free from that what America is letting him self in to..
Luckily there is shadow gov in USA that was prepared to overtake, and they also let it happen in a way as they need to see how far the opponents go and what they aims are when giving them the main position,
they even made just in case some extra gov positions for that before leaving office,
but preparation should have been longer , specially, as Russia has been telling, that they WILL choose their OWN president in USA, and then will move this country out of a way .
and i am devoted anti liberal, right winded religious nutt, almost, and i can surely say, thay America Consciousness, perhaps was not ready for what She wanted to make (and true Liberal front would not let her anyway..), but the potential to stay in history books, as culture respect lacking savages, is much higher if people will look in far future back to the fact who was chosen and what was known when people did it..
Including that He IS Russian candidate to get USA off the World Police game, so Russia can step up, and to get the Real leader, State of Secretary position secured by Russians business and political interests, and in the end to emparish USA morally in eyes of all people,
in the end they will release, extreme dirt also about Trump when He is not needed anymore.. when he fails to obey .
dangerous game he Play, dangerous, most dangerous powers in human history he is sucking up to.. does he think, once you give a finder, they will let go ?
It takes God interference and great work from people to get free from that what America is letting him self in to..
Luckily there is shadow gov in USA that was prepared to overtake, and they also let it happen in a way as they need to see how far the opponents go and what they aims are when giving them the main position,
they even made just in case some extra gov positions for that before leaving office,
but preparation should have been longer , specially, as Russia has been telling, that they WILL choose their OWN president in USA, and then will move this country out of a way .
23 March 2017 19:44
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaiser's comment.
To think that Royal like couple can be compared to a
...well.. looking the current people background and tellings.. is so unreasonable, it makes you wonder, are human serious or they just joking, try to just troll you to flip out.
There is even 100% video and audio proof, WHAT he thinks about women and how he talks and thinks AFTER he got married.
can you imagine, 2 months after getting married, Obama or Clinton, or G. Bush to tell anything like that?
No not really.
...well.. looking the current people background and tellings.. is so unreasonable, it makes you wonder, are human serious or they just joking, try to just troll you to flip out.
There is even 100% video and audio proof, WHAT he thinks about women and how he talks and thinks AFTER he got married.
can you imagine, 2 months after getting married, Obama or Clinton, or G. Bush to tell anything like that?
No not really.
23 March 2017 19:33
Margus Meigo replied to Jonathan Currie's comment.
Greetings frm Est.Land
23 March 2017 18:49
Margus Meigo replied to Jonathan Currie's comment.
few who get here, the army, newer was able to kick or eat our self out, as they are bound to our level tools in most of the time... power of limitation by the mind, was waiting them, and same time higher creation fantasy love power then anything encountered ... creates with stand to any kind of humiliation and torture as whole, regrowing from any kind of slavery and mind elimination, growing out from any kind of slave structure, steady..
23 March 2017 18:48
Margus Meigo replied to Jonathan Currie's comment.
but also there is maybe safe to assume there is the ones who want to get here.. and perhaps they work hard to be among us as hybrid synthetic beings or to trick humans to wish to go some other places, to take care of some other then their home... so the new comers,angels or what are they, can access inside here, to put their foot on the ground,
not safe to assume, that there is ground like that left much in all Creation there is and have been,
and to the ones who read...
who are from other side
dedication for you
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaa-_-aC0uc
not safe to assume, that there is ground like that left much in all Creation there is and have been,
and to the ones who read...
who are from other side
dedication for you
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaa-_-aC0uc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaa-_-aC0uc
23 March 2017 18:45
Margus Meigo replied to Jonathan Currie's comment.
as long your body is in here, in any form, then You are under this understanding,
and to think that there is no "good or bad" up there, is self fooling as well, as "up there" there is another names for it, and is eliminated by the deep knowing of duality, that all "up there" is based on, is safe to assume,
if we here to realize, that Earth is the highest there is , portal to ALL worlds,
not even easy to get in here for all
and to think that there is no "good or bad" up there, is self fooling as well, as "up there" there is another names for it, and is eliminated by the deep knowing of duality, that all "up there" is based on, is safe to assume,
if we here to realize, that Earth is the highest there is , portal to ALL worlds,
not even easy to get in here for all
23 March 2017 18:40
Margus Meigo replied to Jonathan Currie's comment.
"above that" does not matter if one fails to learn, what is good and bad,
just by ignoring it, does not substitute to learning why You are here ,
this will not get you to "above this"
and all these 3d and 4d things are just to much of a "3d" thinking, to even consider it as useful for true spiritual and godliness grouth
just by ignoring it, does not substitute to learning why You are here ,
this will not get you to "above this"
and all these 3d and 4d things are just to much of a "3d" thinking, to even consider it as useful for true spiritual and godliness grouth
23 March 2017 18:38
Margus Meigo replied to Jonathan Currie's comment.
the only one there is and have been,
try to escape from this truth,will create life long search and maybe loss of soul in the end
(to make sound, as duality is not ultimate, is from same kind of group of bad ones who talk about that "man and women need to be equal" and "there is no bad or good")
This is leading to destruction to all that there is, if we ignore and escape from basic functions that make life alive and love to be
try to escape from this truth,will create life long search and maybe loss of soul in the end
(to make sound, as duality is not ultimate, is from same kind of group of bad ones who talk about that "man and women need to be equal" and "there is no bad or good")
This is leading to destruction to all that there is, if we ignore and escape from basic functions that make life alive and love to be
23 March 2017 18:36
Margus Meigo replied to Jonathan Currie's comment.
duality IS the True reallity
23 March 2017 18:33
Margus Meigo commented on Kim Marcussen's post.
Always put YOU own opinion idea also, on comments, soon after posting question,
not just harvesting other people ideas,
not just harvesting other people ideas,
23 March 2017 17:36
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
i know dear u did not
23 March 2017 06:17
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
when we say words like "islam this and that"
then we should be able to imagine all of them, the true ones, and imagine , what will you look a like, between these people
then we should be able to imagine all of them, the true ones, and imagine , what will you look a like, between these people
23 March 2017 06:16
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
or more so,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ4aMk0iz8g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ4aMk0iz8g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ4aMk0iz8g
23 March 2017 06:14
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
but yea, just lets not fall in to communist tricks and confuse all the confused ones with true ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMQ1pIptRKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMQ1pIptRKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMQ1pIptRKg
23 March 2017 06:03
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
just a straw man but still..
23 March 2017 05:49
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
Genesis 2:22-24
The LORD God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man. The man said, "This is now bone of my bones, And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because she was taken out of Man." For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.
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http://www.learnthebible.org/two-become-one.html
But yea, more like about one consciousness between husband and women, on earthly realms and caring about each other body ...
As man become from man to a husband, husband is higher level being then a man,
in our world, man will try to remain a man, this is the issue, in liberal Muslim or western world, equally forgotten and equally other part will fulfill it good,
so will he be a Muslim, as long he is proper husband serving the God ( wife and a world, ) proper, he is alright,
And let's not confuse confused ones with entire religion.. there is much more deep things in there then Muhhamed (r.i.p)...
as there is more in Christianity then Jesus and more in Hindu then Buddha..
these names seem to be distractions focusing on what is needed for G
The LORD God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man. The man said, "This is now bone of my bones, And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because she was taken out of Man." For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.
--
http://www.learnthebible.org/two-become-one.html
But yea, more like about one consciousness between husband and women, on earthly realms and caring about each other body ...
As man become from man to a husband, husband is higher level being then a man,
in our world, man will try to remain a man, this is the issue, in liberal Muslim or western world, equally forgotten and equally other part will fulfill it good,
so will he be a Muslim, as long he is proper husband serving the God ( wife and a world, ) proper, he is alright,
And let's not confuse confused ones with entire religion.. there is much more deep things in there then Muhhamed (r.i.p)...
as there is more in Christianity then Jesus and more in Hindu then Buddha..
these names seem to be distractions focusing on what is needed for G
23 March 2017 05:31
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
there is just one mistake in islam : the many women thing,
as this prevents proper joining in to a true love, man and woman body back together, kind of like in Codex Seraphinianus ( https://www.google.ee/search?q=Codex+Seraphinianus++lizard&num=100&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjvtpDo1uvSAhVLCpoKHTV7AssQsAQIGQ&biw=1280&bih=461#imgrc=T6Q-3eQPtzkjTM: )
( https://www.openbible.info/topics/one_flesh_ )
as this prevents proper joining in to a true love, man and woman body back together, kind of like in Codex Seraphinianus ( https://www.google.ee/search?q=Codex+Seraphinianus++lizard&num=100&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjvtpDo1uvSAhVLCpoKHTV7AssQsAQIGQ&biw=1280&bih=461#imgrc=T6Q-3eQPtzkjTM: )
( https://www.openbible.info/topics/one_flesh_ )
23 March 2017 05:30
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
belief is a hellofa drug
23 March 2017 05:22
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
this one of the reasons would seem first,
but then let's remember that soviets eliminated mostly whites, so...
But yeah, as i wait from Laurie Colson the epic list about what was good about Adolf or hes regime, in Germany in these times, besides WW Beetle, . then will not list the other things up for now, the reasons why he was incompatible with a future communist visions in to where usual capitalism and USA fit in perfect. Besides, USA already got pentagrams on symbols and flags all over. Colors of flag also same.
but then let's remember that soviets eliminated mostly whites, so...
But yeah, as i wait from Laurie Colson the epic list about what was good about Adolf or hes regime, in Germany in these times, besides WW Beetle, . then will not list the other things up for now, the reasons why he was incompatible with a future communist visions in to where usual capitalism and USA fit in perfect. Besides, USA already got pentagrams on symbols and flags all over. Colors of flag also same.
23 March 2017 05:20
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
but yea i am racist in positive way, protecting the races
23 March 2017 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
i was in island where was sing on peach, "No whitey's allowed"
and they did not kid around,
it was under usa
and they did not kid around,
it was under usa
23 March 2017 04:57
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
( what is definition of an idiot and what is Your solution to cure that symptom ?
To rid it from among us, what is the best plan and methods?
I plan for herbs, mushrooms, and explaining the difference between greek-roman and Hebrew thinking, then this allows to unlock open many other kind of brain works locked by these
To rid it from among us, what is the best plan and methods?
I plan for herbs, mushrooms, and explaining the difference between greek-roman and Hebrew thinking, then this allows to unlock open many other kind of brain works locked by these
23 March 2017 04:56
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
for love of all races, one must be racist if you love diversity and human imagination, evolution, creativity,
freedom, respect and most of all multi dimensional intelligence and heritage
freedom, respect and most of all multi dimensional intelligence and heritage
23 March 2017 04:52
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
i am devoted racism protector
23 March 2017 04:52
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
anarchy is like extreme leftism
no extreme is good... unless it is extreme good,
and as left from beginning is already faulty, then how much better can extreme fault become ?
no extreme is good... unless it is extreme good,
and as left from beginning is already faulty, then how much better can extreme fault become ?
23 March 2017 04:51
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
even first flag was red as blood and symbol is A ....
and the thing that started the A thing was also kind of bloody and masonic and militaristic and communistic in the end, as much i have looked,
Will not include LaoTze in here, this is another type of.. hate free anarchy, unpolitical one
and the thing that started the A thing was also kind of bloody and masonic and militaristic and communistic in the end, as much i have looked,
Will not include LaoTze in here, this is another type of.. hate free anarchy, unpolitical one
23 March 2017 04:49
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
i thought anarchist was made by communists and by massons
23 March 2017 04:48
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
no u not, u wanna destroy muslims
23 March 2017 04:46
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
no, we need to get rid of communistic front, not Muslims,
23 March 2017 04:45
Margus Meigo replied to Thomas Bak's comment.
yes as usually anarchist i know have been proper fascistic...
s o yes, proper way it might work
s o yes, proper way it might work
23 March 2017 04:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and in here, the yestedays article comes to mind http://archaeology.kiev.ua/meta/bapty_yates.html
...
" Matriarchy is currently under attack from a whole new kind of custodian of patriarchal history: the archeologist. Archeologists have long been bunglers. They would stomp around on precious sites, let oxygen eat up papyrus scrolls, disperse sacred bones, ship stolen loot off to the British Museum, and shine objects up beyond recognition. Bulls in a china shop. But at least they allowed themselves to muse. Contemporary archeologists are much too scientific (or too pompous) to indulge in that sort of thing. They revile conjectures about the ideology of the cultures they exhume, and stick to facts, facts, facts, like Gradgrind in Hard Times. In this obstinacy of theirs they ape behavioral scientists, those guys who told us, for as long as we’d listen, that animals have no emotions. Animals have nothing but emotions! It’s behavioral scientists who don’t.
...
" Matriarchy is currently under attack from a whole new kind of custodian of patriarchal history: the archeologist. Archeologists have long been bunglers. They would stomp around on precious sites, let oxygen eat up papyrus scrolls, disperse sacred bones, ship stolen loot off to the British Museum, and shine objects up beyond recognition. Bulls in a china shop. But at least they allowed themselves to muse. Contemporary archeologists are much too scientific (or too pompous) to indulge in that sort of thing. They revile conjectures about the ideology of the cultures they exhume, and stick to facts, facts, facts, like Gradgrind in Hard Times. In this obstinacy of theirs they ape behavioral scientists, those guys who told us, for as long as we’d listen, that animals have no emotions. Animals have nothing but emotions! It’s behavioral scientists who don’t.
http://archaeology.kiev.ua/meta/bapty_yates.html
23 March 2017 04:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but this is revolutionary, what about marxism is told ..
23 March 2017 04:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
includin "Reproducing the Womb: Images of Childbirth in Science, Feminist Theory, and ...
23 March 2017 04:38
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
all they write is no joking https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&site=&source=hp&q=%22Coward+and+Ellis%22
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&site&source=hp&q=%22Coward+and+Ellis%22
23 March 2017 04:37
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ingli keeles kõlab lausa luuleliselt
23 March 2017 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
stay good
22 March 2017 21:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(good, as history channel is a bit communistic)
22 March 2017 21:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Considering it is from History channel, is still good. For documentary in these world made by strangers with no special care.
Still has these much drama music in it what is not needed and plots .
Still has these much drama music in it what is not needed and plots .
22 March 2017 21:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
comment:
CJ:
"funny how people dont understand that this is documentary heaven not conspiracy theory heaven lol the rockefellers like any succesful businessman directed wealth away from others and towards them, and yet they gave it back to society... why people have to believe in their ignorance i dont understand..."
CJ:
"funny how people dont understand that this is documentary heaven not conspiracy theory heaven lol the rockefellers like any succesful businessman directed wealth away from others and towards them, and yet they gave it back to society... why people have to believe in their ignorance i dont understand..."
22 March 2017 21:26
Margus Meigo replied to Victor Renault Junior's comment.
true
22 March 2017 21:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Requiescat in pace...rest in peace...
well, not sure so large doers, even care for rest but perhaps they will be on another position, in new round or dimension.
As there is still, many other parallel versions of us who need to get where is needed to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XFKsjjPs7E
"They feared the temptations of wealth, yet their estate was once described as the kind of place God would have built–if only he had the money. They amassed a fortune that outraged a democratic nation, then gave much of it away. They were the closest thing this country had to a royal family, but they shunned the public eye, retreating behind the walls of their palatial home at Pocantico Hills "
well, not sure so large doers, even care for rest but perhaps they will be on another position, in new round or dimension.
As there is still, many other parallel versions of us who need to get where is needed to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XFKsjjPs7E
"They feared the temptations of wealth, yet their estate was once described as the kind of place God would have built–if only he had the money. They amassed a fortune that outraged a democratic nation, then gave much of it away. They were the closest thing this country had to a royal family, but they shunned the public eye, retreating behind the walls of their palatial home at Pocantico Hills "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XFKsjjPs7E
22 March 2017 21:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this is why some needs hard resource hungry mechanic to be powerful, someone can live with simple rope and a wooden stick, porridge,
22 March 2017 21:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
there is only true force, the Good,
the rest of it is pirate , parasitic , mechanical force
the rest of it is pirate , parasitic , mechanical force
22 March 2017 21:14
Margus Meigo commented on Victor Renault Junior's photo.
so how does he want?
22 March 2017 21:07
Margus Meigo replied to Parminder Sharma's comment.
more likely we made aliens
22 March 2017 20:34
Margus Meigo replied to Tia Michelle's comment.
woman
22 March 2017 20:33
Margus Meigo replied to Tia Michelle's comment.
with a Women
22 March 2017 20:33
Margus Meigo commented on Kim Marcussen's post.
humans are platform (for large spectrum of beings and uses), animals are proper species .
Use of animals to be part of nature
Use of human is to serve needs of a women
Use of animals to be part of nature
Use of human is to serve needs of a women
22 March 2017 20:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tiia Tips
22 March 2017 20:08
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
first they try to fool us that all dogs just naturally come from wolfs, then they try to take your family member away and attack a citizen after 10 YEARS of having a dog.. i mean find a logic on that ..can not as it is robots who run that thing, aliens, not a humans,
Humans would not make a trouble if You got a bear in home if animal likes to be and get food what needs.
"Tito Serrano, Cappone’s owner, has been charged with five counts, owning an aggressive or dangerous animal; owning a wild, exotic or dangerous animal; having an animal run at-large; keeping an animal without proper registration tags; and keeping an animal without rabies inoculation "
--
"On Sunday, the DNA test results came back and proved that Cappone was not a wolf hybrid. That means that stretching back three generations, there was no wolf in the dog’s family line. These test results will be presented to a judge on Wednesday. The City of Aurora will likely release the dog back to its owners, however the vagueness of the wolf hybrid statute does not specify minimum test results necessary for release.
The Serrano-Abbato family is still set to appear before a judge on Wednesday, March 22 "
--
They saved the dog from a shelter... and charge them with "keeping exotic animal.." ... is really.. what is wrong with humans that we keep these kind of beings running our world,lets rise up and start to clean up,one by one
https://colorado.ourcommunitynow.com/2017/03/20/aurora-seize-family-dog-wolf-hybrid/
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/animal-control-wont-give-dog-back-to-owner-until-it-can-determin-its-not-a-wolf-hybrid
Humans would not make a trouble if You got a bear in home if animal likes to be and get food what needs.
"Tito Serrano, Cappone’s owner, has been charged with five counts, owning an aggressive or dangerous animal; owning a wild, exotic or dangerous animal; having an animal run at-large; keeping an animal without proper registration tags; and keeping an animal without rabies inoculation "
--
"On Sunday, the DNA test results came back and proved that Cappone was not a wolf hybrid. That means that stretching back three generations, there was no wolf in the dog’s family line. These test results will be presented to a judge on Wednesday. The City of Aurora will likely release the dog back to its owners, however the vagueness of the wolf hybrid statute does not specify minimum test results necessary for release.
The Serrano-Abbato family is still set to appear before a judge on Wednesday, March 22 "
--
They saved the dog from a shelter... and charge them with "keeping exotic animal.." ... is really.. what is wrong with humans that we keep these kind of beings running our world,lets rise up and start to clean up,one by one
https://colorado.ourcommunitynow.com/2017/03/20/aurora-seize-family-dog-wolf-hybrid/
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/animal-control-wont-give-dog-back-to-owner-until-it-can-determin-its-not-a-wolf-hybrid
https://colorado.ourcommunitynow.com/2017/03/20/aurora-seize-family-dog-wolf-hybrid/
22 March 2017 20:07
Margus Meigo replied to Maryam Vela's comment.
Last Updated On: Mar 14 2017 9:42AM
Numbers of Living Supercentenarians (people older then 110) as of Last Update
Females 44
Males 1
http://www.grg.org/SC/WorldSCRankingsList.html http://www.grg.org/
Numbers of Living Supercentenarians (people older then 110) as of Last Update
Females 44
Males 1
http://www.grg.org/SC/WorldSCRankingsList.html http://www.grg.org/
22 March 2017 14:25
Margus Meigo replied to Maryam Vela's comment.
Current Validated Living Supercentenarians
As of January 1, 2015
We have 80 supercentenarians (78 Females: 2 Japanese Males) on this list.
https://web.archive.org/web/20120113032322/http://www.grg.org/Adams/E.HTM
As of January 1, 2015
We have 80 supercentenarians (78 Females: 2 Japanese Males) on this list.
https://web.archive.org/web/20120113032322/http://www.grg.org/Adams/E.HTM
22 March 2017 14:22
Margus Meigo replied to Maryam Vela's comment.
and besides one women (what i symbolic)
no one has lived longer then Hebrew Jews told 5000 years ago was a fixed human age 120,
(this small age number was a punishment..)
anyway, if some people complain about it. just written by people etc...then. did they choose this number randomly back then... what kind of age keeping census they had back then?
I not they even did not celebrate birthdays back then
http://www.hope-of-israel.org/OTbirthdays.html
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/birthdays-and-judaism/
it is the alien, angels , pagan practice to be worshiping self,
if anything, this day should be honoring mother
no one has lived longer then Hebrew Jews told 5000 years ago was a fixed human age 120,
(this small age number was a punishment..)
anyway, if some people complain about it. just written by people etc...then. did they choose this number randomly back then... what kind of age keeping census they had back then?
I not they even did not celebrate birthdays back then
http://www.hope-of-israel.org/OTbirthdays.html
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/birthdays-and-judaism/
it is the alien, angels , pagan practice to be worshiping self,
if anything, this day should be honoring mother
http://www.hope-of-israel.org/OTbirthdays.html
22 March 2017 14:14
Margus Meigo replied to Maryam Vela's comment.
hey di du know, that world oldest top 10 is only woman?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_people#Ten_oldest_verified_cases_ever
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_people#Ten_oldest_verified_cases_ever
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_people#Ten_oldest_verified_cases_ever
22 March 2017 14:07
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
üks oli jah kahtlane igaksjuhuks lasin maha
22 March 2017 14:06
Margus Meigo replied to Maryam Vela's comment.
because they eat healthy, they respect them self, they move among the healthy people, they not feeling hatred daily, have best advices of world about personal health and do not eat ordinary pharma i assume,
besides he had world record of heart surgeries
but mostly, 101 is considered normal, but actual age for a humans are 120 from old times,
sweden, korea, luxenburg, iceland, ireland, austria, france, singapure, switzerland, spain, japan, hong kong all of these lands, AVARAGE is above 80, so 90 is normal, ad to live 10 years longer, then a normal avarage longliving people when you got best on your hands, is normal
besides he had world record of heart surgeries
but mostly, 101 is considered normal, but actual age for a humans are 120 from old times,
sweden, korea, luxenburg, iceland, ireland, austria, france, singapure, switzerland, spain, japan, hong kong all of these lands, AVARAGE is above 80, so 90 is normal, ad to live 10 years longer, then a normal avarage longliving people when you got best on your hands, is normal
22 March 2017 13:56
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kuid mis see tegevus oli, OMANKU enda kontol, öelda omanikule, mille pärast tema konto lukustatakse...seda öelda oleks liialt..... liialt parempoolne
22 March 2017 13:46
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
"kahtlane tegevus"
oli põhjuseks
oli põhjuseks
22 March 2017 13:45
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
nu mul siin ärikontod seotud ja develepor konto jms
22 March 2017 13:42
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
aaa nu ja kui ma rassismi kaitsen ja selgitada proovin, et rassismi vastaseid on inimvastased tulnuk pedereeerikud ning kui areneda inimrassina soovime peame kontsakingad ja lipsukandmise ära lõpetama.. see võib jah mõnele tunduda, et ebasobiv vms
nu jaa, ja keegi peab ju aadolfi eest ka seisma ja juutide
nu jaa, ja keegi peab ju aadolfi eest ka seisma ja juutide
22 March 2017 13:41
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kuid jah, nad nagu tavaliselt kui keegi sisse logiks mujalt, peaks saatma emaili vms, aga vaatasin hoiatus emale ka ei saatnud ega miskit..
ei nuh ega ma kedagi pole jõudnud ju suuresti närvi ajada, et hoian küll enne piiripeale jõudmiseni.lihsalt teen valmistus märkeid siin kergelt, enamasti
ei nuh ega ma kedagi pole jõudnud ju suuresti närvi ajada, et hoian küll enne piiripeale jõudmiseni.lihsalt teen valmistus märkeid siin kergelt, enamasti
22 March 2017 13:37
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
asuu, nu sedasi suht morn asi jah, kui nii lihtne see ongi (kuigi ma kunagi ammu ise ka visualiseerisin, selliseid relvi..et lood paarisaja võlts inimsega virutaalarvuti kobara kes läbi proxide just seda teevad mida vaja kellegi konto häirimiseks..usb le mahtuv väike pakett.. kes eri kontodega treenitud... ja neid aadresside ja kontoe liste saab kergesti uuendada... ja õpetus ja käitumis pakette eri portaalis..)
22 March 2017 13:35
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
vot ei oska öelda mis, täiesti rahuliku rääkimise peale kui seda matriarhaatia aska postitasin, kommenteerisin st.
Ma isegi ei jõudnud lesbierootikat ega natsismist või mõnest inimkontrolli asjast postitada seekord mis oleks võinud põhjust anda..
kuid peale pusimist sain konto avatuks (ja siis läks uuesti ja siis sain uuesti..)
Ma isegi ei jõudnud lesbierootikat ega natsismist või mõnest inimkontrolli asjast postitada seekord mis oleks võinud põhjust anda..
kuid peale pusimist sain konto avatuks (ja siis läks uuesti ja siis sain uuesti..)
22 March 2017 13:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and getting better jet
"They revile conjectures about the ideology of the cultures they exhume, and stick to facts, facts, facts, like Gradgrind in Hard Times. In this obstinacy of theirs they ape behavioral scientists, those guys who told us, for as long as we’d listen, that animals have no emotions. Animals have nothing but emotions! It’s behavioral scientists who don’t."
Thanks Laurie Colson,
I even let it slide, that they did not condemn the greeks-romas in beginning mentioning, that they was, IS the reason of what we got and for that reason they keep few back then.. they opened doors that should have been closed (or rather they went to the back-doors that was not meant to be entered..)..
away, back to reading : )
"They revile conjectures about the ideology of the cultures they exhume, and stick to facts, facts, facts, like Gradgrind in Hard Times. In this obstinacy of theirs they ape behavioral scientists, those guys who told us, for as long as we’d listen, that animals have no emotions. Animals have nothing but emotions! It’s behavioral scientists who don’t."
Thanks Laurie Colson,
I even let it slide, that they did not condemn the greeks-romas in beginning mentioning, that they was, IS the reason of what we got and for that reason they keep few back then.. they opened doors that should have been closed (or rather they went to the back-doors that was not meant to be entered..)..
away, back to reading : )
22 March 2017 05:43
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
" How we cling to this itty-bitty stretch of boy time, the last five thousand doom-laden years, punctuated by the much-heralded shift from BC to ADHD " :D
Hey this article startup is even better then expected,
Hey this article startup is even better then expected,
22 March 2017 05:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or in a way, most of the time, nearly no one gets almost nothing when our planet understands poorly about need for more serious level of respect for Creator.
And for atheist, at least should be clear Who made Him, how complicated that can be for even most challenged ones ?
And for atheist, at least should be clear Who made Him, how complicated that can be for even most challenged ones ?
22 March 2017 05:36
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
and to be more hones,t women do not need to worry about making "big bocks" .. they need to worry how to grow up man who uses money for what is need.
Money withs a lot, she does not need this kind of burden
but she needs what She needs.
With out this no one gets nothing in the end
Money withs a lot, she does not need this kind of burden
but she needs what She needs.
With out this no one gets nothing in the end
22 March 2017 05:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see vist samas ainukene hoone ja maatükk mida me emps omanud on
22 March 2017 05:27
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
tuleb rohtoja meelde kui olime paeküla bussijaamas
kui veini lahti tahtis saaada ja peale pikka torkimist ühte ja teisipidi proovides korki sisse või välja saada,
siis ta võttis vaba käega pudeli ja nagu muuseas lõi pudelikaela sirgelt määda katkist metallpingi äärt maha jaulatas tagasi, nagu poleks just midagi juhtunud
---
// see teine teema ka:
(aa sellega seoses tuleb see uni ka meelde mis enne pooleni jäi, seotud oli selle vana laudaga, ja Terri oli mingi pomo seal, suhtlesime pool telepaatiliselt ja miskid teemad arnensid kahtlaste kakidega kes luusisid.. kuid need ka praegu.. veel pole meeles, aga põnev oli ... üks teine kord ka selle laudaga unesi olnud ja siis Surka oli seal ja mingi teine pomo ja kohalikud uued selle valla ülbarid võtsid mõõtu... et ma olen nagu paeküla laudast rohkem und näinud kui sellest majast 48, see vist näitab midagi selle maja väärtuslikust olemusest (kui ilmari korter välja arvata): )
kui veini lahti tahtis saaada ja peale pikka torkimist ühte ja teisipidi proovides korki sisse või välja saada,
siis ta võttis vaba käega pudeli ja nagu muuseas lõi pudelikaela sirgelt määda katkist metallpingi äärt maha jaulatas tagasi, nagu poleks just midagi juhtunud
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// see teine teema ka:
(aa sellega seoses tuleb see uni ka meelde mis enne pooleni jäi, seotud oli selle vana laudaga, ja Terri oli mingi pomo seal, suhtlesime pool telepaatiliselt ja miskid teemad arnensid kahtlaste kakidega kes luusisid.. kuid need ka praegu.. veel pole meeles, aga põnev oli ... üks teine kord ka selle laudaga unesi olnud ja siis Surka oli seal ja mingi teine pomo ja kohalikud uued selle valla ülbarid võtsid mõõtu... et ma olen nagu paeküla laudast rohkem und näinud kui sellest majast 48, see vist näitab midagi selle maja väärtuslikust olemusest (kui ilmari korter välja arvata): )
22 March 2017 05:26
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
tik-tak, tik-tak, hakkame aega lugema,
peab feivoritesse paenma endal, et kui toimib siis jagan ka :D
peab feivoritesse paenma endal, et kui toimib siis jagan ka :D
22 March 2017 05:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see kus sildid olid, et toidlustamine peldikus ja kilpondi ei tohi molesteerida
22 March 2017 05:11
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
tean gruppy kus seda jagada Allar Kaljundi
22 March 2017 05:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
einu nad on peaaegu ebareaalselt effektiivsed
22 March 2017 05:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
minut kolme aeg, seda kaardus tee nurka.. on ikka kärmed poisid, (ja teenurka ära ei mäkerdanud, pastlad ka puhtad)
.. ja sellist asja,et eestis siin keegi jookseks töökohapeal, ma ei tea, mis töökoht see selline on, kus meil joostakse, et effektiivne oleks.
.. ja sellist asja,et eestis siin keegi jookseks töökohapeal, ma ei tea, mis töökoht see selline on, kus meil joostakse, et effektiivne oleks.
22 March 2017 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
meil ehitatakse viru-baltijaama kilomeetrist teejuppi pool aastat,
22 March 2017 05:01
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Kenad!
22 March 2017 04:59
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
oeh.. i did not finish my story about ants and giants and about wizards and man.. but when i do, will do it on these pages here the idea is: https://wo-and-man.blogspot.com.ee/
https://wo-and-man.blogspot.com.ee/
22 March 2017 03:52
Margus Meigo replied to Susan Eason's comment.
"Ma ei olnud endas kindel,
Kas õnnelik olla võib...."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA58rGjJO9w&list=RDtA58rGjJO9w
Kas õnnelik olla võib...."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA58rGjJO9w&list=RDtA58rGjJO9w
22 March 2017 03:44
Margus Meigo replied to Susan Eason's comment.
(wishing what part of it, who?)
// ever again...(besides being equally quiet, as then another measurements will be drawn who can speak and when, does not matter then , if you women or 2 headed women with 3 titts and 20 children, .. you are equal and measure by your worth, and worth can not be sex in this alien world what they try to implement, as this would be partionizing innit.. (or whatevr this word is)... so you will have right to remind silent OR say and think as current standard of thinking and smartness will be when all is equal.. and remeber who is organizing the equality..not the women minded.. they might be women, but not women minded anymore...not the ones who are allowed to make changes.., ... if you against it, then you just mistaking, and can equally beaten down as no one, does not matter, women or not, equal... one with out all all against one, if needed to be, if the new peaceful perfect balance will be started to challenge by the rebelshe who start to talk, that lets change it so, that .. will start to take in to account female needs... then this needs will be changed by medical and science .. so there will be equal, as would not make sense to implement these needs and "disadvantages" in to a man, so is more logical by greek-roman mind to eliminate these imperfectnesses from the poor weak one so they can be equal, strong one )
// ever again...(besides being equally quiet, as then another measurements will be drawn who can speak and when, does not matter then , if you women or 2 headed women with 3 titts and 20 children, .. you are equal and measure by your worth, and worth can not be sex in this alien world what they try to implement, as this would be partionizing innit.. (or whatevr this word is)... so you will have right to remind silent OR say and think as current standard of thinking and smartness will be when all is equal.. and remeber who is organizing the equality..not the women minded.. they might be women, but not women minded anymore...not the ones who are allowed to make changes.., ... if you against it, then you just mistaking, and can equally beaten down as no one, does not matter, women or not, equal... one with out all all against one, if needed to be, if the new peaceful perfect balance will be started to challenge by the rebelshe who start to talk, that lets change it so, that .. will start to take in to account female needs... then this needs will be changed by medical and science .. so there will be equal, as would not make sense to implement these needs and "disadvantages" in to a man, so is more logical by greek-roman mind to eliminate these imperfectnesses from the poor weak one so they can be equal, strong one )
22 March 2017 03:42
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
supremacy is not really a world we looking for, it is to limited and run's out of hair and size eventually,
22 March 2017 03:40
Margus Meigo replied to Susan Eason's comment.
Patriarchy is, (current day, to ignore all the multi dimensional tech, drugs and beings) is because women forget who she is after being most ruthless way often literally beaten down, by non_beings and as this was not hurting and breaking her enough this was started to be done by the most dearest ones.
That has been working .. now after some time, it seems kind of gift, for a many, to be offered to be "equal"
but of course, it is not an equality, when the one who thinks is superior offers a peace, it is kind of like father and preteen son is play-wrestling and then the father run a draw (well, not a son is it so? And if it is son who demand it, then the one who grants it, does as one is so good, gentlemanly ) .. so jet so, in another level, it is like that, this "equality" .. but as man can not do it.. by them self, as it would still be not final by all game plans,they have to demand this through women, from them self, and then after a short play and rebel, they make face some as they really for it and another ones kind of do not want to but have to.. and in the end grand finale, women has lost all the rights to demand anything, ever, again.
That has been working .. now after some time, it seems kind of gift, for a many, to be offered to be "equal"
but of course, it is not an equality, when the one who thinks is superior offers a peace, it is kind of like father and preteen son is play-wrestling and then the father run a draw (well, not a son is it so? And if it is son who demand it, then the one who grants it, does as one is so good, gentlemanly ) .. so jet so, in another level, it is like that, this "equality" .. but as man can not do it.. by them self, as it would still be not final by all game plans,they have to demand this through women, from them self, and then after a short play and rebel, they make face some as they really for it and another ones kind of do not want to but have to.. and in the end grand finale, women has lost all the rights to demand anything, ever, again.
22 March 2017 03:30
Margus Meigo replied to Susan Eason's comment.
But i do like questions like that,
In short it is about the current post communism new utopia that humans are lulled in to called "everyone is equal, including women"
as clearly, that is not so, in this way specially as it is planned, but will not talk so dark scenarios that is plotted and will fail before fruits that will be understood, just lets focus on basic,
the some, in world, is interested to trick women to equal enslavement of with a man, or more short, old patriarchy thought their last efficient effort to keep their opponent down is to say they are equal,
from what day on the women started to get only pleasure from keeping human species world alive, in most fundamental level, .... and even if man would develop artificial or freak biological womb .to bear a child and keep the birth happening by some theoretical miracle, then this will still not get them any step closer to the epic difference length between the creator of a man
In short it is about the current post communism new utopia that humans are lulled in to called "everyone is equal, including women"
as clearly, that is not so, in this way specially as it is planned, but will not talk so dark scenarios that is plotted and will fail before fruits that will be understood, just lets focus on basic,
the some, in world, is interested to trick women to equal enslavement of with a man, or more short, old patriarchy thought their last efficient effort to keep their opponent down is to say they are equal,
from what day on the women started to get only pleasure from keeping human species world alive, in most fundamental level, .... and even if man would develop artificial or freak biological womb .to bear a child and keep the birth happening by some theoretical miracle, then this will still not get them any step closer to the epic difference length between the creator of a man
22 March 2017 03:21
Margus Meigo replied to Susan Eason's comment.
I just hoped that someone asked top of that "what THIS means" aso i can say :D
22 March 2017 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aww, Agne, how appropriate, to see You over hundreds of posts.. (for the announcement about specialty: one of the post feminism teen who saw, experienced, early, the coldness of institutionalized feminism.
One of the birth givers of "Anarcho" Feminism, core spirit members for new generation of courageous feeling based reality
One of the birth givers of "Anarcho" Feminism, core spirit members for new generation of courageous feeling based reality
22 March 2017 01:38
Margus Meigo replied to Susan Eason's comment.
Matriarchy is reality, not the equality
22 March 2017 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to Susan Eason's comment.
That we need not the equality but reality,
this is Matriarchy
this is Matriarchy
22 March 2017 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to Susan Eason's comment.
You smart Women asking that for looking inside me, is it so?
22 March 2017 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but yea great amount wikings settled on germany as local rulers later when running with boats was not in fashion anymore as British got their ships on order, then was needed to advance on the land... always one step ahead..
well, we in another hand, stay in one spot whole millenniums one after another and let these crazis all around run around rise and go...beat us, rob us, slave us and guard us.. and then they go again... 14 various government rulers just in last 700 some years .. but we here still.
Many others similar, Irish as well
just they have had no blessing to taste the various versions of Germans AND various versions of Russians and communist on opposite and same side at same time and on different times ... well.. and they go...
just seems in a way, at times, as the current, democracy thing is one of the most hardest, destructive ones, as it blinds the victims all around you so well, that they in return will start to convince you, what the vision is.. and after generation... more and more.. will start to wonder... that maybe it is as everyone say's outside, as surely they can not all be blind..
but yea, for every age their own tools, just lets wait : )
well, we in another hand, stay in one spot whole millenniums one after another and let these crazis all around run around rise and go...beat us, rob us, slave us and guard us.. and then they go again... 14 various government rulers just in last 700 some years .. but we here still.
Many others similar, Irish as well
just they have had no blessing to taste the various versions of Germans AND various versions of Russians and communist on opposite and same side at same time and on different times ... well.. and they go...
just seems in a way, at times, as the current, democracy thing is one of the most hardest, destructive ones, as it blinds the victims all around you so well, that they in return will start to convince you, what the vision is.. and after generation... more and more.. will start to wonder... that maybe it is as everyone say's outside, as surely they can not all be blind..
but yea, for every age their own tools, just lets wait : )
21 March 2017 23:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yo see thought so,u robbers u :p
21 March 2017 23:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oh, wait a moment, they was not so much in to mountains,
21 March 2017 18:53
Margus Meigo commented on Joyce Rheal's post.
Becouse You are wiking?
21 March 2017 18:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et meiesugune riik siin, peame ikka väga targalt oma sõnu valima, ka iga rigi kodanik, iga neti portaali ja SMS i sees,
sest igat su riigikodaniku möginat hiljem kasutatakse kogu su kultuuri likvideerimiseks ära,
iga nendevastane ebasnnis solvang, on neile maiuspalaks
sega.,. niisama solvata pole motet, ku isiis minskit huvitavat nfot les tuua ja asjalikult miskit plaani pidada
sest igat su riigikodaniku möginat hiljem kasutatakse kogu su kultuuri likvideerimiseks ära,
iga nendevastane ebasnnis solvang, on neile maiuspalaks
sega.,. niisama solvata pole motet, ku isiis minskit huvitavat nfot les tuua ja asjalikult miskit plaani pidada
21 March 2017 00:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja see on enne bioloogia ja virustega jamama hakkamist, mille arsenali neil ka külmikud täis on ja mille omadega meie vahele poetamine on nii lapsetegu,et ei tasu isegi filosofeerimist
21 March 2017 00:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Näiteks kui nende asjadega seoses, lähed patentide all "seotud patendid ja mainitud patentides"
Siis vaatad sellest eraldi erinevad nimed lesse ja nende liutised ning kes neist reaalsetes valitusasutustes ka töödanud on.. ja siis Siin juurde arvestada igasugust keemilist sõda, piisab paaril lennukil üle lennata ja õhku puistada ühte teist mis sul tunda muud moodi ei anna , kui et sujuvalt adekvaatselt ei mõtle kuigi ise arvad, et mõtled koos teistega... või siis tõstad paranoia või hirmu osa suureks.. ja lisaks ise selle keskel olles ega sa ju ei tea ka, kas tullakse siis lääne poolt appi või ei ja kas annad tulistades hoodu juurde selleks milleks neil vaja oli või ei....
ja lisaks veel psyholoogiline sõda nende sees kus läbi segi eri suundades lailai kistutakse...
ega siis need sõjad ei ole sedasi, et nagu filmis tänapeaval, selliste projektide osas, et kuski he ja teise valli taga keegi ootab ja siis kellel rohkem kuule on võidab.
Siin niisama vallutamisele aega ei raisata, need finants programmid ja promomise programmid eri sõjatööstuste vahel ka, et näe võtame avalilkult siin linna osa ära, suure sõjavälise võimekusega, ja veel sedasi, et suuresti kedagi ei tapa, eriti, ja sedasi eelkõige, et enamus maailm jääb rahule ja ei tee midagi ning peagi unustavad.
Tehke järgi või makske kinni,
Nii .. who is next.. (kui te ei usu võime järgmise jupi kuskilt juba päris suures osas muud moodi võtta, see lihtsalt he tehnoloogia koosluse promo oli.. )
Meie sin siseinfot teades, nii emotsionaalselt lõhestatud ja riigi vastu pööratud ja kodusegaduses, naise armastusteta mehed... pool finatsis kinni ja pool vanemate kompleksides... pool välis unistustes ja pool ostetavad hirmu või lubaduse, triki või manipulatsiidega... segaduse ja idelooogiatega..
oh.. ku iarvata, et meil siin hingata on enne kui see võlts asutus kes ennast riigiks kutsub seal kadunud olema ei saa...
https://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=pts&hl=en&q=ininventor:%22Hendricus+G.+Loos%22&gws_rd=ssl
Siis vaatad sellest eraldi erinevad nimed lesse ja nende liutised ning kes neist reaalsetes valitusasutustes ka töödanud on.. ja siis Siin juurde arvestada igasugust keemilist sõda, piisab paaril lennukil üle lennata ja õhku puistada ühte teist mis sul tunda muud moodi ei anna , kui et sujuvalt adekvaatselt ei mõtle kuigi ise arvad, et mõtled koos teistega... või siis tõstad paranoia või hirmu osa suureks.. ja lisaks ise selle keskel olles ega sa ju ei tea ka, kas tullakse siis lääne poolt appi või ei ja kas annad tulistades hoodu juurde selleks milleks neil vaja oli või ei....
ja lisaks veel psyholoogiline sõda nende sees kus läbi segi eri suundades lailai kistutakse...
ega siis need sõjad ei ole sedasi, et nagu filmis tänapeaval, selliste projektide osas, et kuski he ja teise valli taga keegi ootab ja siis kellel rohkem kuule on võidab.
Siin niisama vallutamisele aega ei raisata, need finants programmid ja promomise programmid eri sõjatööstuste vahel ka, et näe võtame avalilkult siin linna osa ära, suure sõjavälise võimekusega, ja veel sedasi, et suuresti kedagi ei tapa, eriti, ja sedasi eelkõige, et enamus maailm jääb rahule ja ei tee midagi ning peagi unustavad.
Tehke järgi või makske kinni,
Nii .. who is next.. (kui te ei usu võime järgmise jupi kuskilt juba päris suures osas muud moodi võtta, see lihtsalt he tehnoloogia koosluse promo oli.. )
Meie sin siseinfot teades, nii emotsionaalselt lõhestatud ja riigi vastu pööratud ja kodusegaduses, naise armastusteta mehed... pool finatsis kinni ja pool vanemate kompleksides... pool välis unistustes ja pool ostetavad hirmu või lubaduse, triki või manipulatsiidega... segaduse ja idelooogiatega..
oh.. ku iarvata, et meil siin hingata on enne kui see võlts asutus kes ennast riigiks kutsub seal kadunud olema ei saa...
https://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=pts&hl=en&q=ininventor:%22Hendricus+G.+Loos%22&gws_rd=ssl
https://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=pts&hl=en&q=ininventor%3A%22Hendricus+G.+Loos%22&gws_rd=ssl
21 March 2017 00:16
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Asi on selles, et need rohelised mehikesed on lihtsalt osa asjas,t päris tehnoloogia millega nad majandavad, on hoopis muu kraadi oma ja nähtamatu ja selle demostreerimiseks seda ka tehti,
Neil oli vaja rohelisi mehikesi jms, et muidu mida tavarahvas arvaks.. ja neid omad eesmärgid..
kuid siin suured ajutegevust ja närvikava mõjutavad relvad..
Neil oli vaja rohelisi mehikesi jms, et muidu mida tavarahvas arvaks.. ja neid omad eesmärgid..
kuid siin suured ajutegevust ja närvikava mõjutavad relvad..
21 March 2017 00:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
( http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/meet-the-woman-who-put-50-million-stolen-articles-online-so-you-can-read-them-for-free-a6964176.html )
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/meet-the-woman-who-put-50-million-stolen-articles-online-so-you-can-read-them-for-free-a6964176.html
20 March 2017 23:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2800+ pages on him from secret service.. some time to look that over.
...just showing the "efficiency" of western world..
...just showing the "efficiency" of western world..
20 March 2017 23:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
20 March 2017 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on John Greenewald's post.
And just for that bastars, 62 million papers and counting:
http://sci-hub.cc/
http://sci-hub.cc/
http://sci-hub.cc/
20 March 2017 23:35
Margus Meigo commented on John Greenewald's post.
Quality posts
"...Swartz was arrested by MIT police on state breaking-and-entering charges, after systematically downloading academic journal articles from JSTOR..."
Christ...
"...Swartz was arrested by MIT police on state breaking-and-entering charges, after systematically downloading academic journal articles from JSTOR..."
Christ...
20 March 2017 23:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
You as well, take care!
"An Israeli-tested drug that tackles cancer through sophisticated manipulations of the body’s natural immune system was key in helping rid former US president Jimmy Carter of life-threatening tumors that developed after he was diagnosed with melanoma earlier this year. "
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-breakthrough-drug-helped-cure-jimmy-carters-cancer/
"An Israeli-tested drug that tackles cancer through sophisticated manipulations of the body’s natural immune system was key in helping rid former US president Jimmy Carter of life-threatening tumors that developed after he was diagnosed with melanoma earlier this year. "
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-breakthrough-drug-helped-cure-jimmy-carters-cancer/
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-breakthrough-drug-helped-cure-jimmy-carters-cancer/
20 March 2017 22:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but about Jimmy, he is alright as well, innit?
"A nonprofit public policy center founded by Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter to fight disease, hunger, poverty, conflict, and oppression around the world."
https://www.cartercenter.org/
"A nonprofit public policy center founded by Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter to fight disease, hunger, poverty, conflict, and oppression around the world."
https://www.cartercenter.org/
https://www.cartercenter.org/
20 March 2017 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Audio:
David Rockefeller Reflects on a Rich Life
Audio: "David Rockefeller, grandson of Standard Oil founder John D. Rockefeller and a chief architect of the family's philanthropic efforts, has published his memoirs at age 87. He speaks with NPR's Scott Simon. "
https://www.npr.org/player/embed/854305/854306
David Rockefeller Reflects on a Rich Life
Audio: "David Rockefeller, grandson of Standard Oil founder John D. Rockefeller and a chief architect of the family's philanthropic efforts, has published his memoirs at age 87. He speaks with NPR's Scott Simon. "
https://www.npr.org/player/embed/854305/854306
https://www.npr.org/player/embed/854305/854306
20 March 2017 22:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And estonia media, was also satisfactory:
"Suri filantroop David Rockefeller
USA pankur, filantroop ja üleilmastumise ideoloog David Rockefeller suri täna 101 aasta vanuselt, teatas kuulsa perekonna pressiesindaja Fraser P. Seitel.
Seiteli sõnul suri Rockefeller täna hommikul keset und New Yorgis asuvas kodus.
1915. aastal sündinud David Rockefeller oli Rockefelleri dünastia vanim elusolev esindaja. Dünastiale aluse pannud John D. Rockefeller, keda peetakse Ameerika läbi aegade rikkaimaks inimeseks, oli David Rockefelleri vanaisa.
Ajakiri Forbes hindas David Rockefelleri varandust tänavu märtsis 3,3 miljardile dollarile.
Rockefelleri abikaasa, neiupõlvenimega Margaret McGrath, suri 1996. aastal. Paaril oli kuus last ja kümme lapselast."
// ehk siis rõhk pannakse inimese heategevusele
"Suri filantroop David Rockefeller
USA pankur, filantroop ja üleilmastumise ideoloog David Rockefeller suri täna 101 aasta vanuselt, teatas kuulsa perekonna pressiesindaja Fraser P. Seitel.
Seiteli sõnul suri Rockefeller täna hommikul keset und New Yorgis asuvas kodus.
1915. aastal sündinud David Rockefeller oli Rockefelleri dünastia vanim elusolev esindaja. Dünastiale aluse pannud John D. Rockefeller, keda peetakse Ameerika läbi aegade rikkaimaks inimeseks, oli David Rockefelleri vanaisa.
Ajakiri Forbes hindas David Rockefelleri varandust tänavu märtsis 3,3 miljardile dollarile.
Rockefelleri abikaasa, neiupõlvenimega Margaret McGrath, suri 1996. aastal. Paaril oli kuus last ja kümme lapselast."
// ehk siis rõhk pannakse inimese heategevusele
20 March 2017 22:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And bloomberd, did take als care:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-20/david-rockefeller-banker-philanthropist-heir-dies-at-101
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-20/david-rockefeller-banker-philanthropist-heir-dies-at-101
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-20/david-rockefeller-banker-philanthropist-heir-dies-at-101
20 March 2017 22:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Can accept that also
https://www.phillyvoice.com/billionaire-philanthropist-david-rockefeller-dies-at-age-101/
https://www.phillyvoice.com/billionaire-philanthropist-david-rockefeller-dies-at-age-101/
20 March 2017 22:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Theirs was alright aswell:
http://fortune.com/2017/03/20/david-rockefeller-dies/
http://fortune.com/2017/03/20/david-rockefeller-dies/
http://fortune.com/2017/03/20/david-rockefeller-dies/
20 March 2017 22:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
As mentioned before:
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/03/20/david-rockefeller-dies/
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/03/20/david-rockefeller-dies/
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/03/20/david-rockefeller-dies/
20 March 2017 22:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In these time of age, of where education about respec is still in development, is hard to find proper nice articles, most are copy paste and made with no care, understanding or respect, most mainstream ones was dissapointing the yellow ones did not even scoop in to.
But managed to find few:
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/20/520841767/david-rockefeller-philanthropist-banker-and-collector-dies-at-101
But managed to find few:
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/20/520841767/david-rockefeller-philanthropist-banker-and-collector-dies-at-101
20 March 2017 22:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but guys them self look most nicest and interesting people
and in personally, congradualting with a success
and in personally, congradualting with a success
20 March 2017 20:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
not just talking about hypotetical Hendrico Loos related patents, (and othjers who work on similar ones massivly in thesedays) .,..., there is so much more..
20 March 2017 20:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
first you have top focus what is good and what is needed FOR us, humans, before getting hese bastards to smart and then.. then.. it seems underworking to give them these tasks what we need in moral worlds ....
and who thinks of that then.. as to much "exiting" and "interesting" iscoming up... EXTREMELLY dangerous on hands of liberals, as it is then same as on hands of communists, as they know ins and outs of thise mindsets they created and all the methods no one dares to imagine, if needed to make chnages in any corner, including chaning minds and values, takes lessthen a day for must humans, so no one notices outside
and who thinks of that then.. as to much "exiting" and "interesting" iscoming up... EXTREMELLY dangerous on hands of liberals, as it is then same as on hands of communists, as they know ins and outs of thise mindsets they created and all the methods no one dares to imagine, if needed to make chnages in any corner, including chaning minds and values, takes lessthen a day for must humans, so no one notices outside
20 March 2017 20:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
its like theyu not understand what beasts they release more deeper in to here, to learn anything and everything..
including what is important Not to..
these dataset connections will be uncomprahensable without imagination and proper LSD for most humans in history and attacks will be to multy dimensional to even notice
or to have time for it
including what is important Not to..
these dataset connections will be uncomprahensable without imagination and proper LSD for most humans in history and attacks will be to multy dimensional to even notice
or to have time for it
20 March 2017 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on My Top Kickstarter Projects's link.
If you not know WHY you learning, and WHAT is needed to learn so endresult would be GOOD for humans and planet then it will nd up in a great satanic disaster.
And why u need to give these sing language messages, disturbing.. from all the clips you HAD to put this one?
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but yea backing interest seems big
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And why u need to give these sing language messages, disturbing.. from all the clips you HAD to put this one?
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but yea backing interest seems big
AU$ 61,812 pledged of AU$ 5,000 goal
989 backers
7 days to go ...
20 March 2017 20:22
Margus Meigo commented on Petya Barzilska's post.
"should i just smak him while i got oppertunity or does he not deserve this attention.."
20 March 2017 20:17
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
do You agreee just a bit, it is a creepy?
20 March 2017 04:32
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
in fact.. only one ONE post comes up about her, related to feminism or sterilization..
if She ever was real, then they made sure, the fellow feminist,s that she would newer be found
https://www.google.ee/search?q=%22Giuia+Tamaya%22+peru+italy&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&lr=lang_ee&gws_rd=ssl#q=%22Giuia+Tamaya%22+sterilization+OR+feminist&*
only other hope was, that name is missspelled, will reinvestigate later, gotta go to finsih one other work
if She ever was real, then they made sure, the fellow feminist,s that she would newer be found
https://www.google.ee/search?q=%22Giuia+Tamaya%22+peru+italy&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&lr=lang_ee&gws_rd=ssl#q=%22Giuia+Tamaya%22+sterilization+OR+feminist&*
only other hope was, that name is missspelled, will reinvestigate later, gotta go to finsih one other work
20 March 2017 04:31
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
only Giulia Maya (and this name, was also from a spirits, invoked.. not in accident..i feel..).. only Giulia that comes up a lot is this one in russia.. but i assume it isnot her, or what
https://www.google.ee/search?q=%22Giulia+Maya%22&lr=&tbs=lr:lang_1ee&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjExpfVgeTSAhXBFywKHYO1CU4Q_AUICCgB&biw=1366&bih=616
https://www.google.ee/search?q=%22Giulia+Maya%22&lr=&tbs=lr:lang_1ee&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjExpfVgeTSAhXBFywKHYO1CU4Q_AUICCgB&biw=1366&bih=616
20 March 2017 04:27
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
" In the 1990s, Latin American feminism was becoming increasingly institutionalized, technical, and patriarchal. In what scholar Sonia Alvarez calls the “Latin American feminist NGO boom,” feminist non-governmental organizations were being co-opted by the very states they had once rallied against "
but it is Around the world like that
and i enforse that part, he was ONLY male in a room, with extreme ANY female idea, in most DEEPEST level.. and instead, pulling him a part.. he was applouded..
"“...family planning,” Fujimori announced his newest crusade: the Reproductive Health and Family Planning Program. Issued by the Peruvian Ministry of Heath, the program would help the poor and move the country toward gender equity, Fujimori said. Restrictions on women’s reproductive rights would be lifted. Free family planning services would be provided by the state. Access to contraceptives would be opened up to all, and sterilization surgery would be legalized.
Fujimori was the only male president at the Beijing Conference; for that reason alone, his attendance was news... "
But ofocurse, it is much darker jet, and a bit of alien like,
they soviets use powerful hynosis and brain wiping, mind chnaing tools and driugs and methods, to make this kind of institulized feminist army,
and hey.. what happened with that lawyar anywya ?
but it is Around the world like that
and i enforse that part, he was ONLY male in a room, with extreme ANY female idea, in most DEEPEST level.. and instead, pulling him a part.. he was applouded..
"“...family planning,” Fujimori announced his newest crusade: the Reproductive Health and Family Planning Program. Issued by the Peruvian Ministry of Heath, the program would help the poor and move the country toward gender equity, Fujimori said. Restrictions on women’s reproductive rights would be lifted. Free family planning services would be provided by the state. Access to contraceptives would be opened up to all, and sterilization surgery would be legalized.
Fujimori was the only male president at the Beijing Conference; for that reason alone, his attendance was news... "
But ofocurse, it is much darker jet, and a bit of alien like,
they soviets use powerful hynosis and brain wiping, mind chnaing tools and driugs and methods, to make this kind of institulized feminist army,
and hey.. what happened with that lawyar anywya ?
20 March 2017 04:25
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
how can a women imagine to get power back by tools, that man made for her so she would trap her self, weaken her self in a way that she would not be able to get any respect or power pack..
20 March 2017 04:20
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
no, women has not been equal to man in advanced world, women has always been above the man as it should.
about the sterilization:
no feminism is just a platform she was forced to use,
womens, who did it.
Here is how REAL feminist behaved:
"Even after Tamaya exposed the reality of the forced sterilizations, feminist NGOs remained reluctant to condemn the state. Mesa Tripartita, a coalition of NGOs, government officials, and private donors, did not acknowledge the abuses until 1999. Three NGO members belong to Mesa Tripartita, but only one agreed to sign a statement condemning the government. In the face of a major human rights violation, feminist NGOs remained non-confrontational; to lose the state’s political backing appeared strategically unwise"
" Fujimori provoked an immediate reaction among the Peruvian public. His opponents—conservatives, often Catholic—were enraged. On the flipside, the feminist movement applauded the new program. The sterilizations began in 1996 "
So this one women:
"In 1997, feminist lawyer Giuia Tamaya published an extensive investigation of the Family Planning Program. At this point, hundreds of forced sterilization allegations had been filed. Tamaya revealed that women in impoverished rural communities had been pointedly targeted, bribed, and lied to by state officials. The motive for the forced sterilizations was a combination of population control and poverty reduction. "
.... this did not stop the program did it... it lasted 3 years more in full power.
If the feminist network would be really Pro women, would you not think, She would have got global support and stop it all, iniddiatly?
Instead she was forced in to paper game and ignored, yes.. so where was her comrades? Around the world? Newsletters she send out to all mayor newschannels around the world?
If You google Her, you can see that her name does not come up no places,
so is not like fellow feminists around a world would rise her up or what?
(but should be national hereo, even if she did not manage to send out newsletters and post ALL around internet forums in full power, hiering extra hackers and media expers forthat, in the middle of program ,to stop it..)
It was not some small private dark deal to expose, it was massive state program, invlved ten's of thousands of people who know about it, besides feminist NGO's...
This is what i telling you... they are network to keep women down, locked.. if someone among them self start to rebel FOR women.. they make sure, this messgae will not get out, and when get.. then later...
about the sterilization:
no feminism is just a platform she was forced to use,
womens, who did it.
Here is how REAL feminist behaved:
"Even after Tamaya exposed the reality of the forced sterilizations, feminist NGOs remained reluctant to condemn the state. Mesa Tripartita, a coalition of NGOs, government officials, and private donors, did not acknowledge the abuses until 1999. Three NGO members belong to Mesa Tripartita, but only one agreed to sign a statement condemning the government. In the face of a major human rights violation, feminist NGOs remained non-confrontational; to lose the state’s political backing appeared strategically unwise"
" Fujimori provoked an immediate reaction among the Peruvian public. His opponents—conservatives, often Catholic—were enraged. On the flipside, the feminist movement applauded the new program. The sterilizations began in 1996 "
So this one women:
"In 1997, feminist lawyer Giuia Tamaya published an extensive investigation of the Family Planning Program. At this point, hundreds of forced sterilization allegations had been filed. Tamaya revealed that women in impoverished rural communities had been pointedly targeted, bribed, and lied to by state officials. The motive for the forced sterilizations was a combination of population control and poverty reduction. "
.... this did not stop the program did it... it lasted 3 years more in full power.
If the feminist network would be really Pro women, would you not think, She would have got global support and stop it all, iniddiatly?
Instead she was forced in to paper game and ignored, yes.. so where was her comrades? Around the world? Newsletters she send out to all mayor newschannels around the world?
If You google Her, you can see that her name does not come up no places,
so is not like fellow feminists around a world would rise her up or what?
(but should be national hereo, even if she did not manage to send out newsletters and post ALL around internet forums in full power, hiering extra hackers and media expers forthat, in the middle of program ,to stop it..)
It was not some small private dark deal to expose, it was massive state program, invlved ten's of thousands of people who know about it, besides feminist NGO's...
This is what i telling you... they are network to keep women down, locked.. if someone among them self start to rebel FOR women.. they make sure, this messgae will not get out, and when get.. then later...
20 March 2017 04:19
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
no it was a womens, who uncovered a crime
20 March 2017 04:05
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
and specially acient languages and Quechua spekers was targeted, the only direct oldest high of civilization language holders..
(there was only a bit more then 1.5 million people in Peruu speaking that language, if you take off from that number, kids, above 40 women, man and elderly.. then .. then we see how terrible this number was if 300 000 forcefully sterlized, genoside does not seem bad enought.. on the age of year 2000 ... not in acient times..)
(there was only a bit more then 1.5 million people in Peruu speaking that language, if you take off from that number, kids, above 40 women, man and elderly.. then .. then we see how terrible this number was if 300 000 forcefully sterlized, genoside does not seem bad enought.. on the age of year 2000 ... not in acient times..)
20 March 2017 04:00
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
feminism has nothing t odo with protection of feminity, they are communist thinkthank, made by man, to use millitant women and half womens, to keep women down, away from natural powers, away from future rights, away from correct order and respect as matriarchial laws would demand,
instead they trick women them self to demand "equality" .. to be AS salve as man are..
instead of demanding, that man in most part would get 4 times more pay so the man would be worth soethng after slaving away from a home.. they demand that they ALSO wanna salve 8 hours a day and get as little pay as man get .
LIke completly ignoring the fact that we occupied and current situation is utterly reatarded, .. and then complete freak show go to this lenght that they amke new confused women to dress and act so unwomenly that she looses all of her idendty and reason to be, so it would be complete slave of a Party, as this will be only thing what is left, after she looses all her natural powers and wisdom and respect.. .
yes there is so many real women grounps doing real women things under same name and ubrella.. but they are like office workers, not managers and bosses of the show, they will be told and put in to place... in combination of hypnosed women, man and finaice powers when comes itme...
oh if i would be ableto write all that in a understandable way
instead they trick women them self to demand "equality" .. to be AS salve as man are..
instead of demanding, that man in most part would get 4 times more pay so the man would be worth soethng after slaving away from a home.. they demand that they ALSO wanna salve 8 hours a day and get as little pay as man get .
LIke completly ignoring the fact that we occupied and current situation is utterly reatarded, .. and then complete freak show go to this lenght that they amke new confused women to dress and act so unwomenly that she looses all of her idendty and reason to be, so it would be complete slave of a Party, as this will be only thing what is left, after she looses all her natural powers and wisdom and respect.. .
yes there is so many real women grounps doing real women things under same name and ubrella.. but they are like office workers, not managers and bosses of the show, they will be told and put in to place... in combination of hypnosed women, man and finaice powers when comes itme...
oh if i would be ableto write all that in a understandable way
20 March 2017 03:50
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
peruvian gensoide, for one of the most important group of peple in eath, with extreme amount of upfront in time knowladge and knowladge from past unmached recorded in un alphabetical ways... was initiated by feminists
they literrally know, that this what they aploud was forceful sterilizatin of indginious people, unless they them self was complete illiterate and undecuated, and they applouded,...
http://tyglobalist.org/onlinecontent/blogs/the-feminist-paradox/
they literrally know, that this what they aploud was forceful sterilizatin of indginious people, unless they them self was complete illiterate and undecuated, and they applouded,...
http://tyglobalist.org/onlinecontent/blogs/the-feminist-paradox/
http://tyglobalist.org/onlinecontent/blogs/the-feminist-paradox/
20 March 2017 03:44
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
for my book, you not even come to idea, to talk with other person, about third person, things you would not talk when one is in private with you or in a room.
This european "culture" is a huge hoax, yes.. i guess it is looking like a culture by the defination, and looks of it, and acts of it.. but in a sentence of a word, that is something like good, to bow to ... no, no way,
unless we start to become real and deeply meaningful, respectful and clean up our world from sickos insteab in europe, they inbreed ideas, evil ideas like "there is no bad or good, no right or wrong" ... what in world is that sick idea? ?
I bet women beaters, perverts and war lords have hard on keeping that New Age and Higher Academic ideology going to find protection fortheir acts,
as "all is relative" .. i mena, it is like nearly most of the world, in europe city people at least, is under hypnosis, completly not even understanding that they are under new version of roman empire, communist-liberal rule.
And then for god sake, they have this women prisoning, perversious idea called feminism,
no not a matrarchy, or Royal values.. or even not arsitocrasy... oh now.. lets make up new word ... becouse it is NEW thing, nothing to do with respect or understanding what is Women'ity,
or maybe they got understanding, as they working so hard against it... how else would they know how to work against it ... as instructions come, from again, same group of perverts and warlords, pederasty worshippers and pedohiles as always, the roman empire worshipping communists, .. not sure whatthey call them self doay, propabaly democratic or something like that (but matter less as they are in all sides of liberal to rebublican sides, left and right... this is what the 2 head eagle on roman empire logo is all about (from what only one side USA got... so they can not even know what is going on and what is plan as they got not a full plan.. full plan this ones got who has the true roman empire logo.. meaning controlling the uncontrollables with psychology and education, so their millitary might if not obey, matters not ,as it will be directed and used in the end as it is told, by subliminal and psychological ways, as the world is set up for them around them... including this "european culture" where man are allowed to drink, beat up who ever they choose, sigarettes are sold in front of every cash registry and people transport food around the europe so "everyone can get a job" instead letting every country grow whatthey can and sell rest of it and buy in wahtthey need... they like grpow animal some times in one place, then ship it to next placem then pack it in another place, store it on third place, and then it comes back to their own country named as some other country product and they assume it is not mentally retarded... or when you buy a seeds, and youwant to REPLANT these seeds product, this is crime, seriousone, you have to buy new seeds all the time even if you eat it yourself, on many products... for reasons like "quality control" and "safty" .. and "economic reaosns..".... and more about this "culture".... they allow alcohol and siggarettes, knowing it has no good in so many levels, besides no benafit for human mind, and they ban all other old shamanic plants, ... including the ones that can cure addiction's, for sure, ... and they accept alcohol sales becouse "economic reasons, it brings money to state budget" .... well yea.. really, brings , so ? What about all the money what is spend to alcohold that is send out to country to few master corporations and all the healt harm that comes forom it besides destruction of this sick society and family structure? This kind of calculators call them self intelligent and cultural.. when they trade love, family, health, nature for a money and fame, ... sorry.. can not agree on it to be any worth, looks like alien system to destroy humans slowly by turning them to destory them self.
Now we gone even so far in here ,that man who beat up womens or whorst can go to court and justify them self, like what i na hell..
and if anyone will go to sort out this kind of trash then the one who fix a problem get in to trouble, like stepping up for a criminals.. what kind of logic is that.. when some one WASknown to be a bad, then there not should be equal right for them to have state protection, it is uterrly illogical in REAL world..
what else is sick in here,i can keep up for days probabaly, counting, more easy to count what is not... but from what is not, most is not FROM that culture but what has been so in past ... so what good have they invented... well, proobabaly something.. but again not becouse they wanted, feel need to.. but becuse some humans inside, pressed on it and got it done....
there is kids starving in a country, no houses for peopleto live in.. and they buy a freaking war toys for millions, to practice blowing up woods, ... and when these man come out from their killing training, they noit even know how to build a house or farm a plants, for food, ..so what use this kind of man is for a women or any good for a family?? What kind of intelligent society or culture woudl do anything so retarded? unless they are against humans...
And top of that, the coplete idiotic thing besides woen high heels, is the dudes wearing some rope, tie around their neck, no one ask why or wonders, they just know they have to and "can not go to work with out it " .. and it has NO value to making work, not even allowed to clean your mouth with it or some other practical things, ... what i a nonsmart unexplainable illnes must be in human head to tie someting around their nect, every freeaking morning nearly, that does not look nice top of that... is bothering in fact.. and no one is questioning or demaingin quiting this sillinness.. and the clothjing as well.. a suit.. what kind of unprofessional, un practical piece of crap is that what most of the dudes wear in city and make them look like borring carbon copy of each other, and they even feel good about hte most unpractical and booring piece of clothing there is, and the material is not even linean or even not a cotton at times, ... this clothng does not allow to make any practical work ,not even cuddle with a women or nothng, .. and they made THIS , most un practical piece of cloth desinged by some psychopath, mendatory... i mean.. really.. what kind of alien would think this is normal... if they come and alanlyze this pile of unintelligence top of sad mandatory ugliness like moder desing and all that. ... oeh.. ) )
This european "culture" is a huge hoax, yes.. i guess it is looking like a culture by the defination, and looks of it, and acts of it.. but in a sentence of a word, that is something like good, to bow to ... no, no way,
unless we start to become real and deeply meaningful, respectful and clean up our world from sickos insteab in europe, they inbreed ideas, evil ideas like "there is no bad or good, no right or wrong" ... what in world is that sick idea? ?
I bet women beaters, perverts and war lords have hard on keeping that New Age and Higher Academic ideology going to find protection fortheir acts,
as "all is relative" .. i mena, it is like nearly most of the world, in europe city people at least, is under hypnosis, completly not even understanding that they are under new version of roman empire, communist-liberal rule.
And then for god sake, they have this women prisoning, perversious idea called feminism,
no not a matrarchy, or Royal values.. or even not arsitocrasy... oh now.. lets make up new word ... becouse it is NEW thing, nothing to do with respect or understanding what is Women'ity,
or maybe they got understanding, as they working so hard against it... how else would they know how to work against it ... as instructions come, from again, same group of perverts and warlords, pederasty worshippers and pedohiles as always, the roman empire worshipping communists, .. not sure whatthey call them self doay, propabaly democratic or something like that (but matter less as they are in all sides of liberal to rebublican sides, left and right... this is what the 2 head eagle on roman empire logo is all about (from what only one side USA got... so they can not even know what is going on and what is plan as they got not a full plan.. full plan this ones got who has the true roman empire logo.. meaning controlling the uncontrollables with psychology and education, so their millitary might if not obey, matters not ,as it will be directed and used in the end as it is told, by subliminal and psychological ways, as the world is set up for them around them... including this "european culture" where man are allowed to drink, beat up who ever they choose, sigarettes are sold in front of every cash registry and people transport food around the europe so "everyone can get a job" instead letting every country grow whatthey can and sell rest of it and buy in wahtthey need... they like grpow animal some times in one place, then ship it to next placem then pack it in another place, store it on third place, and then it comes back to their own country named as some other country product and they assume it is not mentally retarded... or when you buy a seeds, and youwant to REPLANT these seeds product, this is crime, seriousone, you have to buy new seeds all the time even if you eat it yourself, on many products... for reasons like "quality control" and "safty" .. and "economic reaosns..".... and more about this "culture".... they allow alcohol and siggarettes, knowing it has no good in so many levels, besides no benafit for human mind, and they ban all other old shamanic plants, ... including the ones that can cure addiction's, for sure, ... and they accept alcohol sales becouse "economic reasons, it brings money to state budget" .... well yea.. really, brings , so ? What about all the money what is spend to alcohold that is send out to country to few master corporations and all the healt harm that comes forom it besides destruction of this sick society and family structure? This kind of calculators call them self intelligent and cultural.. when they trade love, family, health, nature for a money and fame, ... sorry.. can not agree on it to be any worth, looks like alien system to destroy humans slowly by turning them to destory them self.
Now we gone even so far in here ,that man who beat up womens or whorst can go to court and justify them self, like what i na hell..
and if anyone will go to sort out this kind of trash then the one who fix a problem get in to trouble, like stepping up for a criminals.. what kind of logic is that.. when some one WASknown to be a bad, then there not should be equal right for them to have state protection, it is uterrly illogical in REAL world..
what else is sick in here,i can keep up for days probabaly, counting, more easy to count what is not... but from what is not, most is not FROM that culture but what has been so in past ... so what good have they invented... well, proobabaly something.. but again not becouse they wanted, feel need to.. but becuse some humans inside, pressed on it and got it done....
there is kids starving in a country, no houses for peopleto live in.. and they buy a freaking war toys for millions, to practice blowing up woods, ... and when these man come out from their killing training, they noit even know how to build a house or farm a plants, for food, ..so what use this kind of man is for a women or any good for a family?? What kind of intelligent society or culture woudl do anything so retarded? unless they are against humans...
And top of that, the coplete idiotic thing besides woen high heels, is the dudes wearing some rope, tie around their neck, no one ask why or wonders, they just know they have to and "can not go to work with out it " .. and it has NO value to making work, not even allowed to clean your mouth with it or some other practical things, ... what i a nonsmart unexplainable illnes must be in human head to tie someting around their nect, every freeaking morning nearly, that does not look nice top of that... is bothering in fact.. and no one is questioning or demaingin quiting this sillinness.. and the clothjing as well.. a suit.. what kind of unprofessional, un practical piece of crap is that what most of the dudes wear in city and make them look like borring carbon copy of each other, and they even feel good about hte most unpractical and booring piece of clothing there is, and the material is not even linean or even not a cotton at times, ... this clothng does not allow to make any practical work ,not even cuddle with a women or nothng, .. and they made THIS , most un practical piece of cloth desinged by some psychopath, mendatory... i mean.. really.. what kind of alien would think this is normal... if they come and alanlyze this pile of unintelligence top of sad mandatory ugliness like moder desing and all that. ... oeh.. ) )
20 March 2017 03:39
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
well maybe you live among some royal peole
por among old timers,
but the liberals and activists, and feminists among who i lived, for them had it mandatory
por among old timers,
but the liberals and activists, and feminists among who i lived, for them had it mandatory
20 March 2017 03:38
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
i mean reatrded, as not able to reason, accept, understand and communicate on deep or honorable way, assuming that You did same,
just in case you have to assume other person is a dickhead and a retarded stupido who will break down or attack you, or sue
So you have to keep critisism and oppinions to your self, so everyone walks and talks like droids, not telling what they really think or feel (besides each other back ,this was done a LOT, like main thing as soon someone left a room!) ... but to tell person to something in private ,to face, ... or to even tell them a things, to save them emparishment.. ooh no.. who would risk on that... let human walk even hes zipper open or titts out, just in case not mentoning, maybe perosn feels offended or ashamed... what kind of species can grow up from that? Really not good ones
just in case you have to assume other person is a dickhead and a retarded stupido who will break down or attack you, or sue
So you have to keep critisism and oppinions to your self, so everyone walks and talks like droids, not telling what they really think or feel (besides each other back ,this was done a LOT, like main thing as soon someone left a room!) ... but to tell person to something in private ,to face, ... or to even tell them a things, to save them emparishment.. ooh no.. who would risk on that... let human walk even hes zipper open or titts out, just in case not mentoning, maybe perosn feels offended or ashamed... what kind of species can grow up from that? Really not good ones
20 March 2017 03:08
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
one of the most disrespectful think i encounter, was in england, they call it " politeness "
it is kind of thing, that You assume, that other person is retarded, so you not tell them things that might maybe offend them
it is kind of thing, that You assume, that other person is retarded, so you not tell them things that might maybe offend them
20 March 2017 03:05
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
yes you can, he just did.
Not sure of hes reasons, but including he know he looks like a dickhead, is still person right to do so.
Why would You need to sake hands when You do not want to if You are REAL person not a fakery ?
Not sure of hes reasons, but including he know he looks like a dickhead, is still person right to do so.
Why would You need to sake hands when You do not want to if You are REAL person not a fakery ?
20 March 2017 03:04
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
only thing that makes us wonder, how come God is so loving, forgiving, mysterious, to keep this obamination here
20 March 2017 03:03
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
it is fake, it is sick, it is disrespectful and robotic
20 March 2017 03:02
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
i despise this greek-roman communist polite sickening democrasy
20 March 2017 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
and "education"
20 March 2017 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
You was ironic, wasnt u about "european culture"
20 March 2017 02:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
we even got telling here, that it is bad luck when You do, that then you will apart, not heart connection anymore
20 March 2017 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
when she insist i just holding with two hands,
but most often i just hug..or when she would prefer not i just bow a little
But... shaking.. that seems kind of ... to business, to vcommunist, to mehanical like
but most often i just hug..or when she would prefer not i just bow a little
But... shaking.. that seems kind of ... to business, to vcommunist, to mehanical like
20 March 2017 02:58
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Ravenna's post.
I also no shake hands with a women
20 March 2017 02:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
really did not plan to post it right now, but oh well..
20 March 2017 01:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
...so this poor man just..
)(this video is like some old school new level militant feminism, i am not really sure i still get it fully but probably it fit's in somewhere between here, ... for.. reversed psychology kind of way)
(as i think this what this poor man do with their hard life.. they just ...pain away ...inside other.. who ever.. like is nothing... so they can smile again, to other people, and pretend is all good)
And considering hard background of His own woman...
just makes me wonder.. how on no foundation of relation can someone on so high positions to be.. .. i mean.. can we imagine what information Merkel has about this guy adventures and past life.. while he got about Merkel, like what.. shame hard to even look in to her eyes, she is Christian top of that and a bit feministic we can assume.. so one can just imagine..
.. wonder just.. kind of interesting way.. what kind of sorcery or drugs keep this pain and shame away.. to not break down front of everyone. ..unreal really.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgYSM91vJko
)(this video is like some old school new level militant feminism, i am not really sure i still get it fully but probably it fit's in somewhere between here, ... for.. reversed psychology kind of way)
(as i think this what this poor man do with their hard life.. they just ...pain away ...inside other.. who ever.. like is nothing... so they can smile again, to other people, and pretend is all good)
And considering hard background of His own woman...
just makes me wonder.. how on no foundation of relation can someone on so high positions to be.. .. i mean.. can we imagine what information Merkel has about this guy adventures and past life.. while he got about Merkel, like what.. shame hard to even look in to her eyes, she is Christian top of that and a bit feministic we can assume.. so one can just imagine..
.. wonder just.. kind of interesting way.. what kind of sorcery or drugs keep this pain and shame away.. to not break down front of everyone. ..unreal really.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgYSM91vJko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgYSM91vJko
20 March 2017 00:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but as long we got world like that:
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/03/17/soccer-player-who-had-the-mother-of-his-son-murdered-and-fed-to-dogs-is-out-of-prison-and-signed-with-a-new-team/
... there is plenty of room to hide the pain
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/03/17/soccer-player-who-had-the-mother-of-his-son-murdered-and-fed-to-dogs-is-out-of-prison-and-signed-with-a-new-team/
... there is plenty of room to hide the pain
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/03/17/soccer-player-who-had-the-mother-of-his-son-murdered-and-fed-to-dogs-is-out-of-prison-and-signed-with-a-new-team/
20 March 2017 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i mean he is smart enough to know who he is, and this must be actually be hurting..
a lot
a lot
20 March 2017 00:00
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Ravenna's photo.
Oudsh....
bor trump how does he manage to be under this kind of pressure when everyone knows..
bor trump how does he manage to be under this kind of pressure when everyone knows..
19 March 2017 21:57
Margus Meigo commented on Sirje Kivist's post.
Üks sõna: Communism
(ja selle perekond liberalism, greeka-rooma kokkukukkunud väärolendid ja muu kurjus )
(ja selle perekond liberalism, greeka-rooma kokkukukkunud väärolendid ja muu kurjus )
19 March 2017 21:34
Margus Meigo replied to Junior Wolfe's comment.
honestly, openly, seriously, happily
19 March 2017 03:08
Margus Meigo replied to Junior Wolfe's comment.
in Est:
ilu_beauty
mina_me
.:.
(...nati_a_little.. : )
https://www.eki.ee/dict/ekss/index.cgi?Q=illu&F=M
Basically anyone is in true ILUm..who understands beauty in them self and does not need to hide it on shame or fear but stands for good, for god, for beauty!
ilu_beauty
mina_me
.:.
(...nati_a_little.. : )
https://www.eki.ee/dict/ekss/index.cgi?Q=illu&F=M
Basically anyone is in true ILUm..who understands beauty in them self and does not need to hide it on shame or fear but stands for good, for god, for beauty!
19 March 2017 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on Anonymous ART of Revolution's photo.
it does not make woman look good :p
19 March 2017 02:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
one more things, soviets Newer assume that they loose control, that they lost control
19 March 2017 01:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but as i told soviets had entire planetary mood manipulation methds already on pre 60's
..the public one was simple waves tec ableto produce happiness and depression, four main different channels.
but in these day's is hard for self to know, if one is soviet, working for soviet, used by sovets for soviets, or used by sovets for opponents of soviets to be on the side of soviets or to be on the side of opponents of soviets,
but in the end just have to remeber, who is the controller really and for what reason
these organizations that assing people to work in a places, like in this Movie where man discovers that people are controlled by Shampoo...
remeber that movie,
anyway, people think.. how no one is leaking it proper who works on it.. well.. what would you leak after you see in THIS level control that they show, that basically they can be in anyones head with an operator, and if not in all.. .then sooner or later there will be someone high up .. who will make sure, you get a treatement for so crazy things to say about him or others.
but this is just one level, top of that there is still to go..
but they will newer get us allanyway, even if they would be real, as strong thing to make them not become above the power, is to also ignore them and shut them off from belief that they can be, and focus on self strenght.. and same time yes.. taking powers away from them by showing what the real life sounds and looks a like.. so the host organizations will start to age and die out, as no fress brins come to keep them alive with needed ideas..
in hopes..
but yea, picture will become more clear only, when we combine it all, and trip a bit.. and realize, that it is all stil a raw, basic, not high level at all compared to basic what is , and what we are
..the public one was simple waves tec ableto produce happiness and depression, four main different channels.
but in these day's is hard for self to know, if one is soviet, working for soviet, used by sovets for soviets, or used by sovets for opponents of soviets to be on the side of soviets or to be on the side of opponents of soviets,
but in the end just have to remeber, who is the controller really and for what reason
these organizations that assing people to work in a places, like in this Movie where man discovers that people are controlled by Shampoo...
remeber that movie,
anyway, people think.. how no one is leaking it proper who works on it.. well.. what would you leak after you see in THIS level control that they show, that basically they can be in anyones head with an operator, and if not in all.. .then sooner or later there will be someone high up .. who will make sure, you get a treatement for so crazy things to say about him or others.
but this is just one level, top of that there is still to go..
but they will newer get us allanyway, even if they would be real, as strong thing to make them not become above the power, is to also ignore them and shut them off from belief that they can be, and focus on self strenght.. and same time yes.. taking powers away from them by showing what the real life sounds and looks a like.. so the host organizations will start to age and die out, as no fress brins come to keep them alive with needed ideas..
in hopes..
but yea, picture will become more clear only, when we combine it all, and trip a bit.. and realize, that it is all stil a raw, basic, not high level at all compared to basic what is , and what we are
19 March 2017 01:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and for reply, this was posted (reply to several hundred meters)
with comment:
"try several thousand miles"
"Apparatus for and method of sensing brain waves at a position remote from a subject whereby electromagnetic signals of different frequencies are simultaneously transmitted to the brain of the subject in which the signals interfere with one another to yield a waveform which is modulated by the subject's brain waves. The interference waveform which is representative of the brain wave activity is re-transmitted by the brain to a receiver where it is demodulated and amplified. The demodulated waveform is then displayed for visual viewing and routed to a computer for further processing and analysis. The demodulated waveform also can be used to produce a compensating signal which is transmitted back to the brain to effect a desired change in electrical activity therein."
http://www.google.com/patents/US3951134 (connected patents up to 2016)
Publication date 20 apr. 1976
ofcourse for new patents the abstract and the headline have to be fitted to be less TinHat'i and practical ordinary sounding, when possible,
.:.
are you a "biological tissue" ?
" one embodiment, a neurological status evaluation apparatus includes a signal generator configured to generate an electromagnetic signal at one or more frequencies, a transmitting antenna coupled to the signal generator and configure to transmit the electromagnetic signal, and a receiving antenna positioned proximate to the transmitting antenna such that an evaluation space is defined between the transmitting antenna and the receiving antenna. The biological tissue under evaluation does not contact the transmitting antenna or the receiving antenna. The receiving antenna receives a modulated electromagnetic signal after propagating through the biological tissue under evaluation. The neurological status evaluation apparatus further includes a spectrum analyzer coupled to the receiving antenna, wherein the spectrum analyzer receives and samples the modulated electromagnetic signal. A computing device is coupled to the spectrum analyzer, calculates an evaluation, and provides a neurological status indicator of the biological tissue under evaluation based on the evaluation parameter"
http://www.google.com/patents/US20140243647
// as it is just medical
"There is a clinical need for non-invasive neurologic monitoring in the intensive care unit (ICU), Emergency Department (ED), operating room (OR), battlefield, and pre-hospital settings. Currently, clinicians can assess the neurologic status of a patient by either performing a clinical neurological exam or through imaging of the central nervous system (CNS) using computed tomography (CT) or magnetic resonance imaging (MRI). Further, there exists a need for a non-invasive test of neurologic status that can alert the treating clinician to significant changes in the CNS status of the patient, such as hemorrhage, increase in intracranial pressure, cerebral edema or seizure "
// sure there is ...
Biological Signal Processing Unit, Wireless Memory, Biological Signal Processing System, And Control System Of Device
To Be Controlled
http://www.google.com/patents/US20080294033
US 20080294033 A1
Abstract
It is an object to provide a means for easily operating various devices to be controlled (i.e. a word processor or a car) using a brain wave signal of a patient with Alzheimer's disease or a psychological disorder, and for supporting the active performance of a user by employing wireless communication with a memory (wireless memory) capable of communicating without wires in which a command on the human movement is memorized. A present biological signal processing unit has an electrode for detecting a biological signal (an electric signal) from a living body, or for transmitting an electric signal into a living body, an interface, and an antenna which can communicate with an external device (i.e. wireless memory, reader/writer); therefore, convenience of the user is improved in the case where a user utilizes an electronic device or the like. In addition, the active performance of a user can be supported.
...
//well, as we told it is just medical..
with comment:
"try several thousand miles"
"Apparatus for and method of sensing brain waves at a position remote from a subject whereby electromagnetic signals of different frequencies are simultaneously transmitted to the brain of the subject in which the signals interfere with one another to yield a waveform which is modulated by the subject's brain waves. The interference waveform which is representative of the brain wave activity is re-transmitted by the brain to a receiver where it is demodulated and amplified. The demodulated waveform is then displayed for visual viewing and routed to a computer for further processing and analysis. The demodulated waveform also can be used to produce a compensating signal which is transmitted back to the brain to effect a desired change in electrical activity therein."
http://www.google.com/patents/US3951134 (connected patents up to 2016)
Publication date 20 apr. 1976
ofcourse for new patents the abstract and the headline have to be fitted to be less TinHat'i and practical ordinary sounding, when possible,
.:.
are you a "biological tissue" ?
" one embodiment, a neurological status evaluation apparatus includes a signal generator configured to generate an electromagnetic signal at one or more frequencies, a transmitting antenna coupled to the signal generator and configure to transmit the electromagnetic signal, and a receiving antenna positioned proximate to the transmitting antenna such that an evaluation space is defined between the transmitting antenna and the receiving antenna. The biological tissue under evaluation does not contact the transmitting antenna or the receiving antenna. The receiving antenna receives a modulated electromagnetic signal after propagating through the biological tissue under evaluation. The neurological status evaluation apparatus further includes a spectrum analyzer coupled to the receiving antenna, wherein the spectrum analyzer receives and samples the modulated electromagnetic signal. A computing device is coupled to the spectrum analyzer, calculates an evaluation, and provides a neurological status indicator of the biological tissue under evaluation based on the evaluation parameter"
http://www.google.com/patents/US20140243647
// as it is just medical
"There is a clinical need for non-invasive neurologic monitoring in the intensive care unit (ICU), Emergency Department (ED), operating room (OR), battlefield, and pre-hospital settings. Currently, clinicians can assess the neurologic status of a patient by either performing a clinical neurological exam or through imaging of the central nervous system (CNS) using computed tomography (CT) or magnetic resonance imaging (MRI). Further, there exists a need for a non-invasive test of neurologic status that can alert the treating clinician to significant changes in the CNS status of the patient, such as hemorrhage, increase in intracranial pressure, cerebral edema or seizure "
// sure there is ...
Biological Signal Processing Unit, Wireless Memory, Biological Signal Processing System, And Control System Of Device
To Be Controlled
http://www.google.com/patents/US20080294033
US 20080294033 A1
Abstract
It is an object to provide a means for easily operating various devices to be controlled (i.e. a word processor or a car) using a brain wave signal of a patient with Alzheimer's disease or a psychological disorder, and for supporting the active performance of a user by employing wireless communication with a memory (wireless memory) capable of communicating without wires in which a command on the human movement is memorized. A present biological signal processing unit has an electrode for detecting a biological signal (an electric signal) from a living body, or for transmitting an electric signal into a living body, an interface, and an antenna which can communicate with an external device (i.e. wireless memory, reader/writer); therefore, convenience of the user is improved in the case where a user utilizes an electronic device or the like. In addition, the active performance of a user can be supported.
...
//well, as we told it is just medical..
http://www.google.com/patents/US3951134
19 March 2017 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
bu so many woring in CIA kind of forget that they work also under pentagram, fivestar..
19 March 2017 01:06
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Forte's post.
well, CIA invented next to soviet invented culture something, they had to what else they supposed to do
19 March 2017 01:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"distance of several hundred meters, using a small portable battery-powered device"
>Apparatus and method for remote manipulation of nervous systems by the magnetic dipole field of a rotating bar magnet. Reliance on modulation of spontaneous spiking patterns of sensory nerve receptors, and exploitation of a resonance mechanism of certain neural circuits, allows the use of very weak magnetic fields. This, together with the large magnetic moments that can be obtained with a permanent bar magnet, makes it possible to effectively manipulate the nervous system of a subject over a distance of several hundred meters, using a small portable battery-powered device. The method can be used in law enforcement for standoff situations.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN%2F6238333
// but yea, besides what are they or not, they are for sure good also for cold war paranoia for one and another side of border, likethe starwars cartoons that was at least later explained,as cartoons.. that was at least explained bankrupted the soviets... but well.. there is explenation.. and then there is thiswhat really is..
>Apparatus and method for remote manipulation of nervous systems by the magnetic dipole field of a rotating bar magnet. Reliance on modulation of spontaneous spiking patterns of sensory nerve receptors, and exploitation of a resonance mechanism of certain neural circuits, allows the use of very weak magnetic fields. This, together with the large magnetic moments that can be obtained with a permanent bar magnet, makes it possible to effectively manipulate the nervous system of a subject over a distance of several hundred meters, using a small portable battery-powered device. The method can be used in law enforcement for standoff situations.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN%2F6238333
// but yea, besides what are they or not, they are for sure good also for cold war paranoia for one and another side of border, likethe starwars cartoons that was at least later explained,as cartoons.. that was at least explained bankrupted the soviets... but well.. there is explenation.. and then there is thiswhat really is..
19 March 2017 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
She looks good,
looks, that she really was in woods as well : )
looks, that she really was in woods as well : )
18 March 2017 23:04
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
First You ave to get to the woods, and go to it, and stay in there...
Then think if you want to come out...
then come out and then tell about it
Then think if you want to come out...
then come out and then tell about it
18 March 2017 23:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
then again, from one other guy i noted before,
there is the Jhon Clair
that i picked up from 4chan again:
https://4archive.org/board/x/thread/17516379
(posted by user, that "just because there is patent means not that it is working.. but then again... Jhon Clair maybe not work for darpa..
or yeah.. we will know some some day (or at least some way..) the way we are allowed to know, meaning, the way we need to know so that we can really understand what we know in a way that we can know more this what is needed (needed, for ...that what is needed most, .... but if one of the tasks what is needed, is to figure out what is needed, and this is the knowledge... well then it takes some more work, if god made us for the reason that we would think out for G this what is needed ...much work to do... (i assume it is something to do with how to be nice)))
--
Full body teleportation device
https://www.google.com/patents/US20060071122?dq=ininventor:%22John+St.+Clair%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiY7c-G6-LLAhUP8GMKHSFCBno4KBDoAQgbMAA
triangular spacecraft
https://www.google.com/patents/US20060145019?dq=ininventor:%22John+St.+Clair%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_wYLT6-LLAhVMz2MKHWy7CwA4ChDoAQgwMAM
Remote viewing amplifier
https://www.google.com/patents/US20060072226?dq=ininventor:%22John+St.+Clair%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_wYLT6-LLAhVMz2MKHWy7CwA4ChDoAQhaMAk
a device for walking through walls
https://www.google.com/patents/US20060014125?dq=ininventor:%22John+St.+Clair%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiSjZjr6-LLAhVE1mMKHbsxCwg4KBDoAQgpMAI
>>"A hyperspace torque generator which comprises a flat bifilar magnetic bucking field electrical coil, crystal ball, lever arm and frequency generator for producing a linear flow of hyperspace energy at right angles to a rotating flow of astral chakra energy. "
https://www.google.com/patents/US20040102810?dq=ininventor:%22John+St.+Clair%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_wYLT6-LLAhVMz2MKHWy7CwA4ChDoAQgiMAE
This dude is a gold mine
https://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=pts&hl=en&q=ininventor:%22John+St.+Clair%22
there is the Jhon Clair
that i picked up from 4chan again:
https://4archive.org/board/x/thread/17516379
(posted by user, that "just because there is patent means not that it is working.. but then again... Jhon Clair maybe not work for darpa..
or yeah.. we will know some some day (or at least some way..) the way we are allowed to know, meaning, the way we need to know so that we can really understand what we know in a way that we can know more this what is needed (needed, for ...that what is needed most, .... but if one of the tasks what is needed, is to figure out what is needed, and this is the knowledge... well then it takes some more work, if god made us for the reason that we would think out for G this what is needed ...much work to do... (i assume it is something to do with how to be nice)))
--
Full body teleportation device
https://www.google.com/patents/US20060071122?dq=ininventor:%22John+St.+Clair%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiY7c-G6-LLAhUP8GMKHSFCBno4KBDoAQgbMAA
triangular spacecraft
https://www.google.com/patents/US20060145019?dq=ininventor:%22John+St.+Clair%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_wYLT6-LLAhVMz2MKHWy7CwA4ChDoAQgwMAM
Remote viewing amplifier
https://www.google.com/patents/US20060072226?dq=ininventor:%22John+St.+Clair%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_wYLT6-LLAhVMz2MKHWy7CwA4ChDoAQhaMAk
a device for walking through walls
https://www.google.com/patents/US20060014125?dq=ininventor:%22John+St.+Clair%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiSjZjr6-LLAhVE1mMKHbsxCwg4KBDoAQgpMAI
>>"A hyperspace torque generator which comprises a flat bifilar magnetic bucking field electrical coil, crystal ball, lever arm and frequency generator for producing a linear flow of hyperspace energy at right angles to a rotating flow of astral chakra energy. "
https://www.google.com/patents/US20040102810?dq=ininventor:%22John+St.+Clair%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_wYLT6-LLAhVMz2MKHWy7CwA4ChDoAQgiMAE
This dude is a gold mine
https://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=pts&hl=en&q=ininventor:%22John+St.+Clair%22
https://4archive.org/board/x/thread/17516379
18 March 2017 22:56
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Forte's post.
This guy is known well for some time, and same time "no one" knows.
" Certain monitors can emit electromagnetic field pulses that excite a sensory resonance in a nearby subject, through image pulses that are so weak as to be subliminal. This is unfortunate since it opens a way for mischievous application of the invention, whereby people are exposed unknowingly to manipulation of their nervous systems for someone else's purposes. Such application would be unethical and is of course not advocated. It is mentioned here in order to alert the public to the possibility of covert abuse that may occur while being online, or while watching TV, a video, or a DVD. "
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1089106/pg1
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/54pegb/who_is_hendricus_g_loos/
http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2015/11/the-mysterious-hendricus-loos-and-his-nervous-system-manipulation-devices/
"In the 1980s, it seems he set up shop in his Fallbrook, California home and developed Laguna Research Laboratory, working on government projects with the likes of the Department of Defense, the Department of Health and Human Services, and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, commonly known as DARPA (6). The projects include cost effective therapeutic aerosol devices and memory storage devices capable of learning."
// (yea. like only paper from him in http://dblp.uni-trier.de/pers/hd/l/Loos:Hendricus_G convinient)
// (related to B Kosko work you can see the topic was hot back then already https://scholar.google.com/scholar?oe=utf-8&lr=lang_ee&gws_rd=ssl&um=1&ie=UTF-8&lr&cites=13896160100884623235 )
But yea,
google got a lot but all are like these kind of people would live in another, parallel world, just some of the work, papers leaking in to here.. but can not feel like he is here, walking among us.
" Certain monitors can emit electromagnetic field pulses that excite a sensory resonance in a nearby subject, through image pulses that are so weak as to be subliminal. This is unfortunate since it opens a way for mischievous application of the invention, whereby people are exposed unknowingly to manipulation of their nervous systems for someone else's purposes. Such application would be unethical and is of course not advocated. It is mentioned here in order to alert the public to the possibility of covert abuse that may occur while being online, or while watching TV, a video, or a DVD. "
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1089106/pg1
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/54pegb/who_is_hendricus_g_loos/
http://www.topsecretwriters.com/2015/11/the-mysterious-hendricus-loos-and-his-nervous-system-manipulation-devices/
"In the 1980s, it seems he set up shop in his Fallbrook, California home and developed Laguna Research Laboratory, working on government projects with the likes of the Department of Defense, the Department of Health and Human Services, and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, commonly known as DARPA (6). The projects include cost effective therapeutic aerosol devices and memory storage devices capable of learning."
// (yea. like only paper from him in http://dblp.uni-trier.de/pers/hd/l/Loos:Hendricus_G convinient)
// (related to B Kosko work you can see the topic was hot back then already https://scholar.google.com/scholar?oe=utf-8&lr=lang_ee&gws_rd=ssl&um=1&ie=UTF-8&lr&cites=13896160100884623235 )
But yea,
google got a lot but all are like these kind of people would live in another, parallel world, just some of the work, papers leaking in to here.. but can not feel like he is here, walking among us.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1089106/pg1
18 March 2017 22:55
Margus Meigo replied to Sean Stevenson's comment.
but ofcourse, at same time we have to , non stop not just loving technology is this we have to constantly research in around us and re-wakeup it (as it is wave that can go and come, not know is it natural, but lets assume it is) but als oabout all knowledge about how to help better,
help to keep us so nice and valuable that we attract protection and also help us to reorgnaize and advance information, make it more nice to read and understand, so our grandchildren will newer be boored nor they will dream about fly to another plants or blow this one up here.. as the depth of beauty and interestingness in here, is sum of all what is out there,
from here we get everywhere, in there, we might just get, places where we get fro there....but from here, we get everywhere..
so why to choose some TV shop owesame multy purpose product with shiny lights and unknown resistanse or history... when you can have all, the world, in a way that you not not have to carry it on your back ... but you can .
--
most hardest is to carry bad consience.
.:.
conscience (in Est: südametunnistus https://translate.google.com/#auto/en/s%C3%BCdametunnistus
Süda_heart
Me_we
( // SüdaMe_owned_by_the_heart// )
Tunnistus_certificate / Tunnistus from the word root: Tunnustama_acknowledge_ recognize_ appreciate related to the word Tunnistama_witness_admit_confess )
help to keep us so nice and valuable that we attract protection and also help us to reorgnaize and advance information, make it more nice to read and understand, so our grandchildren will newer be boored nor they will dream about fly to another plants or blow this one up here.. as the depth of beauty and interestingness in here, is sum of all what is out there,
from here we get everywhere, in there, we might just get, places where we get fro there....but from here, we get everywhere..
so why to choose some TV shop owesame multy purpose product with shiny lights and unknown resistanse or history... when you can have all, the world, in a way that you not not have to carry it on your back ... but you can .
--
most hardest is to carry bad consience.
.:.
conscience (in Est: südametunnistus https://translate.google.com/#auto/en/s%C3%BCdametunnistus
Süda_heart
Me_we
( // SüdaMe_owned_by_the_heart// )
Tunnistus_certificate / Tunnistus from the word root: Tunnustama_acknowledge_ recognize_ appreciate related to the word Tunnistama_witness_admit_confess )
https://translate.google.com/#auto/en/s%C3%BCdametunnistus
18 March 2017 22:33
Margus Meigo replied to Sean Stevenson's comment.
Human patriotism
as our heart, is supreme
as our heart, is supreme
18 March 2017 22:19
Margus Meigo replied to Sean Stevenson's comment.
Like when some egg head come
and show of their true colors, and try to put human down in pub envoriement,
then we can be like "well, you manipulated and directed our parent's thoughts and culture politics in any depth uh?
Well ,what did You learn about it, as we still keep You here, so you can learn u know..."
// illustrative image of EggHead..
and show of their true colors, and try to put human down in pub envoriement,
then we can be like "well, you manipulated and directed our parent's thoughts and culture politics in any depth uh?
Well ,what did You learn about it, as we still keep You here, so you can learn u know..."
// illustrative image of EggHead..
18 March 2017 22:18
Margus Meigo replied to Sean Stevenson's comment.
not even about how we using them to use us,
(for our and their benafit or protection or situation that is needed for time being..)
as that is also abuse maybe in some level,as when they becoeme consious of what they do in our eyes then they feel bad about it and we not want to make anyone in future feel bad..
so we gotta frame out visons and thoughts in a way, that they can only be used for our benafit, and for our benefit it is when we asume we do it for their benefit, (simply helping or serving god vill do in christ religion point of view, but in really smart and any other way, combined, as we in all levels, and all paralels, partly avare, sometimes, always)
not just about uplifting our own hopes, as hope is last what dies,
but we have to be winning with dignity and best example there is to give, to all
(for our and their benafit or protection or situation that is needed for time being..)
as that is also abuse maybe in some level,as when they becoeme consious of what they do in our eyes then they feel bad about it and we not want to make anyone in future feel bad..
so we gotta frame out visons and thoughts in a way, that they can only be used for our benafit, and for our benefit it is when we asume we do it for their benefit, (simply helping or serving god vill do in christ religion point of view, but in really smart and any other way, combined, as we in all levels, and all paralels, partly avare, sometimes, always)
not just about uplifting our own hopes, as hope is last what dies,
but we have to be winning with dignity and best example there is to give, to all
18 March 2017 22:14
Margus Meigo replied to Sean Stevenson's comment.
but if we want to win in any game, we got to reframe all games and methods, in a way, that how We do benafit for them (ina way that we want to becouse we so smart or lovable, we wannakeep them alive or just do it out of respect and waiting up to point when they understand or ..up to point when we all parts of dimensions are avare enought to pull safely bad outside from us, inside out,from all.. so.. in short, all ideas and visionsin the end have to be in direction, how we winning : )
18 March 2017 22:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Plenary panel discussion: Who rules the Internet?
Who are the actors both in practices of rule-making and rule-breaking online, what are their motivations and resources, and how can their power relations and communicative figurations be described? How does the Internet influence the proliferation of the values that its platforms, services and infrastructures embody, and what spaces of creative resistance persist? How do various forms of technical, social, and cultural hacking subvert these orders? Drawing on the conference theme, we look forward to discussing these important questions with:
Kate Crawford is a Principal Researcher at Microsoft Research New York City, a Visiting Professor at MIT’s Center for Civic Media, and a Senior Fellow at NYU’s Information Law Institute. Her research addresses the social impacts of big data, and she’s currently writing a new book on data and power with Yale University Press.
Fieke Jansen researches and writes on the Politics of Data and digital shadows at Tactical Tech. She hopes to bring more transparency to the global data industry. Prior to moving to Berlin, Fieke worked on the intersection of the internet, social change and security, working at Hivos to set up and manage their digital emergency programme for human rights defenders and activists. She also co-authored a book called Digital AlterNatives.
Carolin Gerlitz is professor for digital media and methods at the University of Siegen Her research addresses quantification and valuation in social media and the role of app ecologies. She is also a member of the Digital Methods Initiative Amsterdam and works on digital research methods for studying platforms and mobile media.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odVO4qiFWaU
Who are the actors both in practices of rule-making and rule-breaking online, what are their motivations and resources, and how can their power relations and communicative figurations be described? How does the Internet influence the proliferation of the values that its platforms, services and infrastructures embody, and what spaces of creative resistance persist? How do various forms of technical, social, and cultural hacking subvert these orders? Drawing on the conference theme, we look forward to discussing these important questions with:
Kate Crawford is a Principal Researcher at Microsoft Research New York City, a Visiting Professor at MIT’s Center for Civic Media, and a Senior Fellow at NYU’s Information Law Institute. Her research addresses the social impacts of big data, and she’s currently writing a new book on data and power with Yale University Press.
Fieke Jansen researches and writes on the Politics of Data and digital shadows at Tactical Tech. She hopes to bring more transparency to the global data industry. Prior to moving to Berlin, Fieke worked on the intersection of the internet, social change and security, working at Hivos to set up and manage their digital emergency programme for human rights defenders and activists. She also co-authored a book called Digital AlterNatives.
Carolin Gerlitz is professor for digital media and methods at the University of Siegen Her research addresses quantification and valuation in social media and the role of app ecologies. She is also a member of the Digital Methods Initiative Amsterdam and works on digital research methods for studying platforms and mobile media.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odVO4qiFWaU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odVO4qiFWaU
18 March 2017 18:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" José van Dijck is a professor of Comparative Media Studies at the University of Amsterdam. Her research areas include media technologies, digital culture, social media, popularisation of science and medicine, and television and culture. Her latest book, titled The Culture of Connectivity: A Critical History of Social Media, was published by Oxford University Press (2013). She is currently writing a book on the role of online platforms in the public sphere. We are thrilled to have her present the keynote talk at AoIR 2016 in Berlin! "
// is this dude in the beginning ilike totally.. gay?
// (yes it has something todo a lot with it, as their mindset is critically canged . will not go in to that now. it jsut energetically boters the serious focus on things, energetic magia and just kind of bothering but okey, we can handlethat for now, maybe )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ypiiSQTNqo
// is this dude in the beginning ilike totally.. gay?
// (yes it has something todo a lot with it, as their mindset is critically canged . will not go in to that now. it jsut energetically boters the serious focus on things, energetic magia and just kind of bothering but okey, we can handlethat for now, maybe )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ypiiSQTNqo
18 March 2017 18:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2016 – #AoIR2016: Internet Rules! (Berlin)
2015 – IR 16: Digital Imaginaries (Phoenix)
2014 – IR 15: Boundaries and Intersections (Daegu)
2013 – IR 14: Resistance + Appropriation (Denver)
2012 – IR 13: Technologies (Salford)
2011 – IR 12: Performance and Participation (Seattle)
2010 – IR 11: Sustainability, Participation, Action (Gothenburg)
2009 – IR 10: Internet: Critical (Milwaukee)
2008 – IR 9: Rethinking Communities, Rethinking Place (Copenhagen)
2007 – IR 8: Let’s Play! (Vancouver)
2006 – IR 7: Internet Convergences (Brisbane)
2005 – IR 6: Internet Generations (Chicago)
2004 – IR 5: Ubiquity? (Brighton)
2003 – IR 4: Broadening the Band (Toronto)
2002 – IR 3: Net/Work/Theory (Maastricht)
2001 – IR 2: InterConnections (Minneapolis)
2000 – IR 1: The State of the Interdiscipline (Lawrence)
https://aoir.org/past-conferences/
// Most converences are with out a link ?? Andu internet research.. u say ?
2 are:
Phoenix, Arizona, USA from October 21-24, 2015. The theme for the year’s conference was “Digital Imaginaries.”
https://aoir.org/ir16/call-for-proposals/
http://aoir.org/ir16/
https://aoir.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Internet-Research-16-ConfTool-Pro-Printout.pdf
evolution of shared concepts of the internet
historical perspectives on “new” media imaginaries
ways that the internet imaginary affects public policy
uncovering internet facts and fictions
methodological explorations of the imaginary
comparative examinations of the digital imaginary across cultures
or subcultures
the relationship between technology and the imaginary
mobile media and imaginaries of everyday life
internet imaginaries of race, class, gender, and sexuality
internet, ethics and the social imaginary
imagining the future internet
the internet in the popular imaginar
We are thrilled to announce that Micha Cárdenas will be delivering the opening keynote, entitled “Stitching Poetics: Networked Bodies and Algorithmic Identity.”
The abstract for her talk:
Despite recent legal gains for gay and lesbian couples, transgender people of color continue to be the number one target of murder among LGBT people in the US. How can the interaction between speculative media and social justice be understood, specifically in a context of the struggle for justice for trans women of color in the Americas? To do so, I propose the material/conceptual operation of the stitch to add to the operations of the cut and the fold as discussed by Gilles Deleuze, Félix Guattari, Sarah Kember and Joanna Zylinska. I will discuss media art by Adam Harvey, Zach Blas and the Electronic Disturbance Theater, alongside a discussion of my own practice-based research project, Local Autonomy Networks. These examples are the basis for a comparison of the practice-based research methods of speculative design, contestational design and community-based design with the goal of creating media poetics that can reduce violence against trans people of color.
// Okey...
and
https://aoir.org/aoir2016/
#AoIR2016 – was held in Berlin, Germany, from October 5-8, 2016. The theme for the year’s conference was “Internet Rules!”
https://aoir.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/AoIR_2016_ConfSched.pdf
https://aoir.org/aoir2016/call-for-proposals/
– coordination and rule-making online
– media, culture and identity
– (h)activism and social justice
– critical approaches to algorithms, platform studies
– codes and practices of internet culture
– connected devices and the internet of things
– big data and predictive analytics
– techno-social interfaces
– digital labor, crowdsourcing and co-creation
– internet governance and regulation
– (global) social media
– communication, participation and polarization online
– philosophy of information and knowledge
2015 – IR 16: Digital Imaginaries (Phoenix)
2014 – IR 15: Boundaries and Intersections (Daegu)
2013 – IR 14: Resistance + Appropriation (Denver)
2012 – IR 13: Technologies (Salford)
2011 – IR 12: Performance and Participation (Seattle)
2010 – IR 11: Sustainability, Participation, Action (Gothenburg)
2009 – IR 10: Internet: Critical (Milwaukee)
2008 – IR 9: Rethinking Communities, Rethinking Place (Copenhagen)
2007 – IR 8: Let’s Play! (Vancouver)
2006 – IR 7: Internet Convergences (Brisbane)
2005 – IR 6: Internet Generations (Chicago)
2004 – IR 5: Ubiquity? (Brighton)
2003 – IR 4: Broadening the Band (Toronto)
2002 – IR 3: Net/Work/Theory (Maastricht)
2001 – IR 2: InterConnections (Minneapolis)
2000 – IR 1: The State of the Interdiscipline (Lawrence)
https://aoir.org/past-conferences/
// Most converences are with out a link ?? Andu internet research.. u say ?
2 are:
Phoenix, Arizona, USA from October 21-24, 2015. The theme for the year’s conference was “Digital Imaginaries.”
https://aoir.org/ir16/call-for-proposals/
http://aoir.org/ir16/
https://aoir.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Internet-Research-16-ConfTool-Pro-Printout.pdf
evolution of shared concepts of the internet
historical perspectives on “new” media imaginaries
ways that the internet imaginary affects public policy
uncovering internet facts and fictions
methodological explorations of the imaginary
comparative examinations of the digital imaginary across cultures
or subcultures
the relationship between technology and the imaginary
mobile media and imaginaries of everyday life
internet imaginaries of race, class, gender, and sexuality
internet, ethics and the social imaginary
imagining the future internet
the internet in the popular imaginar
We are thrilled to announce that Micha Cárdenas will be delivering the opening keynote, entitled “Stitching Poetics: Networked Bodies and Algorithmic Identity.”
The abstract for her talk:
Despite recent legal gains for gay and lesbian couples, transgender people of color continue to be the number one target of murder among LGBT people in the US. How can the interaction between speculative media and social justice be understood, specifically in a context of the struggle for justice for trans women of color in the Americas? To do so, I propose the material/conceptual operation of the stitch to add to the operations of the cut and the fold as discussed by Gilles Deleuze, Félix Guattari, Sarah Kember and Joanna Zylinska. I will discuss media art by Adam Harvey, Zach Blas and the Electronic Disturbance Theater, alongside a discussion of my own practice-based research project, Local Autonomy Networks. These examples are the basis for a comparison of the practice-based research methods of speculative design, contestational design and community-based design with the goal of creating media poetics that can reduce violence against trans people of color.
// Okey...
and
https://aoir.org/aoir2016/
#AoIR2016 – was held in Berlin, Germany, from October 5-8, 2016. The theme for the year’s conference was “Internet Rules!”
https://aoir.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/AoIR_2016_ConfSched.pdf
https://aoir.org/aoir2016/call-for-proposals/
– coordination and rule-making online
– media, culture and identity
– (h)activism and social justice
– critical approaches to algorithms, platform studies
– codes and practices of internet culture
– connected devices and the internet of things
– big data and predictive analytics
– techno-social interfaces
– digital labor, crowdsourcing and co-creation
– internet governance and regulation
– (global) social media
– communication, participation and polarization online
– philosophy of information and knowledge
https://aoir.org/past-conferences/
18 March 2017 18:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
AoIR, The Association of Internet Researchers
The Association is pleased to announce the Tartu Ülikool (University of Tartu), Tartu, Estonia as the site of AoIR 2017 – Oct 18-21, 2017.
“e-Estonia” is a term commonly used to describe Estonia’s emergence as one of the most advanced e-societies in the world – an incredible success story that grew out of a partnership between a forward-thinking government, a pro-active ICT sector and a switched-on, tech-savvy population. Hence, since regaining independence from the Soviet Union in 1991, Estonia has developed into a leading producer and consumer of ICT solutions, particularly in the area of e-government, but also in the private sector.
about the host
University of Tartu: UT is Estonia’s leading centre of research and training. It preserves the culture of the Estonian people and spearheads the country’s reputation in research and provision of higher education. UT belongs to the top 2% of world’s best universities.
The University of Tartu was founded in 1632 by the Swedish king Gustavus Adolphus. It was initially called Academia Dorpatensis. The necessary preparations for creating a university in Tartu (then Dorpat) were made by Johan Skytte, governor general of Livonia.
Academia Dorpatensis, modeled after the University of Uppsala in Sweden, was intended to pursue research and advance learning in a wide variety of disciplines. The University of Tartu (UT) has continued to adhere to this approach throughout the centuries, and remains today the only classical university in Estonia. Research at UT focuses on subjects as diverse as medicine and philosophy, genetics and computer science.
https://aoir.org/aoir2017/
The Association is pleased to announce the Tartu Ülikool (University of Tartu), Tartu, Estonia as the site of AoIR 2017 – Oct 18-21, 2017.
“e-Estonia” is a term commonly used to describe Estonia’s emergence as one of the most advanced e-societies in the world – an incredible success story that grew out of a partnership between a forward-thinking government, a pro-active ICT sector and a switched-on, tech-savvy population. Hence, since regaining independence from the Soviet Union in 1991, Estonia has developed into a leading producer and consumer of ICT solutions, particularly in the area of e-government, but also in the private sector.
about the host
University of Tartu: UT is Estonia’s leading centre of research and training. It preserves the culture of the Estonian people and spearheads the country’s reputation in research and provision of higher education. UT belongs to the top 2% of world’s best universities.
The University of Tartu was founded in 1632 by the Swedish king Gustavus Adolphus. It was initially called Academia Dorpatensis. The necessary preparations for creating a university in Tartu (then Dorpat) were made by Johan Skytte, governor general of Livonia.
Academia Dorpatensis, modeled after the University of Uppsala in Sweden, was intended to pursue research and advance learning in a wide variety of disciplines. The University of Tartu (UT) has continued to adhere to this approach throughout the centuries, and remains today the only classical university in Estonia. Research at UT focuses on subjects as diverse as medicine and philosophy, genetics and computer science.
https://aoir.org/aoir2017/
https://aoir.org/aoir2017/
18 March 2017 18:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
This is the smaller one, for example download this XLS document:
http://www.nodexlgraphgallery.org/Pages/Workbook.ashx?graphID=84596
The graph represents a network of 1,004 Twitter users whose tweets in the requested range contained "Bioengineering", or who were replied to or mentioned in those tweets. The network was obtained from the NodeXL Graph Server on Monday, 12 December 2016 at 01:50 UTC.
The requested start date was Monday, 12 December 2016 at 01:01 UTC and the maximum number of days (going backward) was 14.
The maximum number of tweets collected was 5,000.
--
// (from whe the uRLs ws taken)
Vertices : 1004
Unique Edges : 1079
Edges With Duplicates : 336
Total Edges : 1415
Self-Loops : 547
Reciprocated Vertex Pair Ratio : 0.0261845386533666
Reciprocated Edge Ratio : 0.0510328068043742
Connected Components : 430
http://www.nodexlgraphgallery.org/Pages/Workbook.ashx?graphID=84596
The graph represents a network of 1,004 Twitter users whose tweets in the requested range contained "Bioengineering", or who were replied to or mentioned in those tweets. The network was obtained from the NodeXL Graph Server on Monday, 12 December 2016 at 01:50 UTC.
The requested start date was Monday, 12 December 2016 at 01:01 UTC and the maximum number of days (going backward) was 14.
The maximum number of tweets collected was 5,000.
--
// (from whe the uRLs ws taken)
Vertices : 1004
Unique Edges : 1079
Edges With Duplicates : 336
Total Edges : 1415
Self-Loops : 547
Reciprocated Vertex Pair Ratio : 0.0261845386533666
Reciprocated Edge Ratio : 0.0510328068043742
Connected Components : 430
18 March 2017 18:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The graph represents a network of 4,056 Twitter users whose tweets in the requested range contained "Bioengineering", or who were replied to or mentioned in those tweets. The network was obtained from the NodeXL Graph Server on Monday, 01 February 2016 at 03:56 UTC.
The requested start date was Monday, 01 February 2016 at 00:01 UTC and the maximum number of tweets (going backward in time) was 5,000.
The tweets in the network were tweeted over the 76-day
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The graph's vertices were grouped by cluster using the Clauset-Newman-Moore cluster algorithm.
The graph was laid out using the Harel-Koren Fast Multiscale layout algorithm.
http://nodexlgraphgallery.org/Pages/Graph.aspx?graphID=61847
The requested start date was Monday, 01 February 2016 at 00:01 UTC and the maximum number of tweets (going backward in time) was 5,000.
The tweets in the network were tweeted over the 76-day
---
The graph's vertices were grouped by cluster using the Clauset-Newman-Moore cluster algorithm.
The graph was laid out using the Harel-Koren Fast Multiscale layout algorithm.
http://nodexlgraphgallery.org/Pages/Graph.aspx?graphID=61847
http://nodexlgraphgallery.org/Pages/Graph.aspx?graphID=61847
18 March 2017 18:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and what other interesting terms, in private tools, making all kind of analyzis, with scoop unlimited,
specially if you combine in end boints the biological intelligence with A.I .. (+ social engieneering combination with in part of the 2 to get third level hidden or unlinked related data to re-vizualise whole of information and thought interpetation networks and trends )
specially if you combine in end boints the biological intelligence with A.I .. (+ social engieneering combination with in part of the 2 to get third level hidden or unlinked related data to re-vizualise whole of information and thought interpetation networks and trends )
18 March 2017 18:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
18 March 2017 18:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Luckilly we can get easy info from pre made work, thanks to tools like:
NODExl THe Social Media Research Foundation
http://nodexlgraphgallery.org/Pages/Default.aspx?search=Bioengineering
NODExl THe Social Media Research Foundation
http://nodexlgraphgallery.org/Pages/Default.aspx?search=Bioengineering
18 March 2017 18:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
links 4:
http://www.scoop.it/t/bioengineering-by-kkhausman/p/4072334905/2016/12/02/hospital-to-get-first-dedicated-3d-tissue-printing-facility?hash=6863ee31-9e8d-40da-8403-3222ad9d0050&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook
http://www.scoop.it/t/bioengineering-by-kkhausman/p/4072334905/2016/12/02/hospital-to-get-first-dedicated-3d-tissue-printing-facility?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
http://www.scoop.it/t/bioengineering-by-kkhausman/p/4072334969/2016/12/02/packard-s-hp-legacy-continues-at-walter-reed-national-military-medical-center-hp-official-site?hash=241d2d94-a573-495a-9953-40d4b0a1393f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook
http://www.scoop.it/t/bioengineering-by-kkhausman/p/4072334969/2016/12/02/packard-s-hp-legacy-continues-at-walter-reed-national-military-medical-center-hp-official-site?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
http://www.scoop.it/t/bioengineering-by-kkhausman/p/4072635569/2016/12/09/tweet-from-3dprintmaven?hash=e2074749-4713-44e8-b3fa-cbbd03b3820a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook
http://www.scoop.it/t/bioengineering-by-kkhausman/p/4072635569/2016/12/09/tweet-from-3dprintmaven?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
http://www.scoop.it/t/bioengineering-by-kkhausman/p/4072639391/2016/12/09/this-biohacker-wants-to-spur-a-genetic-engineering-revolution-with-glowing-beer?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
http://www.scoop.it/t/bioengineering-by-kkhausman/p/4072640519/2016/12/09/tweet-from-3dheals?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
http://www.scoop.it/t/bioengineering-by-kkhausman/p/4072640631/2016/12/09/tweet-from-theprotongroup?hash=293b428a-12cc-421a-be69-d00d3d571aa1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook
http://www.scoop.it/t/bioengineering-by-kkhausman/p/4072640631/2016/12/09/tweet-from-theprotongroup?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
http://www.scoop.it/t/bioengineering-by-kkhausman/p/4072641574/2016/12/09/science-artificial-blood-stored-as-powder-could-be-used-in-life-saving-transfusions?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
http://www.scoop.it/t/bioengineering-by-kkhausman/p/4072642237/2016/12/09/tweet-from-jameslovgren?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
http://www.scoop.it/t/bioengineering-by-kkhausman/p/4072642350/2016/12/09/3d-technology-rebuilds-child-s-ear-bbc-news?hash=415a771e-2b01-4193-8a99-e957cc1867d3&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook
http://www.scoop.it/t/bioengineering-by-kkhausman/p/4072642350/2016/12/09/3d-technology-rebuilds-child-s-ear-bbc-news?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
http://www.scoop.it/t/bioengineering-by-kkhausman/p/4072642367/2016/12/09/genetic-engineering-pioneer-urges-caution-on-editing-human-genome?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
http://www.scoop.it/t/bioengineering-by-kkhausman/p/4072678170/2016/12/10/biological-3d-printing-chinese-scientists-develop-functioning-blood-vessels?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
http://www.semanticscholar.org/af4a/73eed4805728c45280375daea317c00c6dde.pdf
http://www.semanticscholar.org/af4a/73eed4805728c45280375daea317c00c6dde.pdf https://twitter.com/i/web/status/803103273670483968
http://www.serious-science.org/stem-cell-bioengineering-1262
http://www.stanford.edu/
http://www.stanford.edu/free-learning/webinars/bioengineering-sciences-and-technology/stanford-webinar-using-genomics
http://www.statnews.com/2016/11/28/science-quiz-eighth-grade-biology/
http://www.statnews.com/2016/12/08/superbugs-antibiotic-resistance-megaplate/
http://www.stemcellbio.ru/english/program/section-bioengineering-esophagus-in-non-human-primates/
http://www.technologyreview.com/s/603034/biotech-trial-of-the-century-could-determine-who-owns-crispr/
http://www.tennesseecompanies.org/the-bioengineering-group-inc-000628601
http://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/interview-with-macarthur-genius-grant-winner-rebecca-richards-kortum/ twitter.com/i/web/status/806623069733199872
http://www.thearchitectureinsight.com/Architecture/for-terreform-one-bioengineering-is-the-future-of-design
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/bio-warfare-like-150-bombs-going-off-6-people-dead-and-8500-hospitalized-in-australia-due-to-rare-thunderstorm-asthma_112016
http://www.thiskidreviewsbooks.com/2016/10/05/review-bioengineering-by-christine-burillo-kirch
http://www.thiskidreviewsbooks.com/2016/10/05/review-bioengineering-by-christine-burillo-kirch?utm_content=bufferf4b67&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
http://www.tradelineinc.com/reports/2016-11/integration-engineering-and-life-sciences-helps-spur-research-manage-energy
http://www.tradelineinc.com/reports/2016-11/integration-engineering-and-life-sciences-helps-spur-research-manage-energy https://twitter.com/i/web/status/804433661881745408
http://www.tumblr.com/post/153833750921/for-the-first-time-living-cells-have-formed#_=_
http://www.tumblr.com/post/154133610013/okay-so-for-the-fallen-the-whole-point-of-siva-is#_=_
http://www.ucsd.edu/feature/creating_clinical_bioengineers
http://www.ucsd.edu/feature/creating_clinical_bioengineers twitter.com/i/web/status/807429665757466625
http://www.ucsd.edu/feature/creating_clinical_bioengineers?utm_campaign=thisweek&utm_medium=email&utm_source=tw-2016-12-08
http://www.umd.edu/about
http://www.umd.edu/about/fischells
http://www.umd.edu/cersi-scholars
http://www.umd.edu/giving
http://www.umd.edu/graduate
http://www.universitytimes.ie/2016/12/bones-magnets-and-bioengineering-creating-a-world-class-research-centre-in-the-heart-of-dublin/
http://www.uofgcce.org/single-post/2016/12/08/Conference-Report-Bioengineering-for-Cancer
http://www.utoronto.ca/u-t-engineering-student-wins-rhodes-scholarship/ twitter.com/i/web/status/803206235503861760
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18 March 2017 18:20
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18 March 2017 18:18
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18 March 2017 18:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Džässmuusika ( Jazz ) grupp
laps nimega Helin... kes heli ja muusika.. lauluilma kasvab18 March 2017 15:20
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Vares's post.
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Vaat kuidas isegi nimi on asjakohane : )18 March 2017 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on Petya Barzilska's post.
but he made viretrap joke that they was spyed by obama :D
17 March 2017 22:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Information sharing is caring
17 March 2017 22:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
no not me
17 March 2017 22:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
not sure how much power these teens have
17 March 2017 22:31
Margus Meigo commented on Clark Heinrich's photo.
Egg?
17 March 2017 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Well, they make it sound like just a Teen, assome old sic perv was with some party girls... but this sick f...
" for allegedly hiring a 17-year-old boy for sex, leading to calls for his resignation and a separate internal investigation into his years of work with a youth program.
Ralph Shortey, a 35-year-old conservative Republican who has a wife and three young daughters, surrendered to authorities on charges of engaging in child prostitution, transporting a minor for prostitution and engaging in prostitution within 1,000 feet of a church. He was released after about two hours on a $100,000 bond. "
how no one notices and let these kind of ones to stay in politics top of yoth work.. just ... well,
at least he was not in to raping pre teens, something positive after all,
sure some of these kinds will come out next
" for allegedly hiring a 17-year-old boy for sex, leading to calls for his resignation and a separate internal investigation into his years of work with a youth program.
Ralph Shortey, a 35-year-old conservative Republican who has a wife and three young daughters, surrendered to authorities on charges of engaging in child prostitution, transporting a minor for prostitution and engaging in prostitution within 1,000 feet of a church. He was released after about two hours on a $100,000 bond. "
how no one notices and let these kind of ones to stay in politics top of yoth work.. just ... well,
at least he was not in to raping pre teens, something positive after all,
sure some of these kinds will come out next
17 March 2017 18:18
Margus Meigo replied to Bianca Kõivumägi's comment.
värse v
17 March 2017 14:27
Margus Meigo replied to Bianca Kõivumägi's comment.
(see sellele, kellelt iganes see esimene lause oli, loodan, et mitte Sinult endalt, kuid ega tunne ei ole ka selline, et see võimatu olema peaks, kuigi võiks ju olla.. )
17 March 2017 14:14
Margus Meigo replied to Bianca Kõivumägi's comment.
ümber tõlgendamiseks milleks üks või teine asi on.
ja kui sellisele tulemusele saad,et "business only"
Siis just andsitki alla ja kaotasid ja saadi JUST see tulemus mis saada sooviti, ära ole nõrk ja mine seda teed kuhu orje suunatakse...
Vaid ikka vali Naise tee
ja kui sellisele tulemusele saad,et "business only"
Siis just andsitki alla ja kaotasid ja saadi JUST see tulemus mis saada sooviti, ära ole nõrk ja mine seda teed kuhu orje suunatakse...
Vaid ikka vali Naise tee
17 March 2017 14:13
Margus Meigo replied to Bianca Kõivumägi's comment.
st armastuse, et kui seda ei saa kohe alguses hoida, siis ... st kui kohe alguses ei hoita seda.. arusaamaga, kui eriliselt eriline ja oluline see on... ning arusaamaga ka, et see tõsine asi...
ja et missee põhi asi on, pealearmastuse, miks koos olla sooviti ..
.. ja need eluarusaamad üksteisele eriti oluliselt tuleb punuda kui tahta loota, et midagi kestma jääb...
ega vana aeg enam pole nus naturaalsest armastusest ja praktilisusest inimesed kokku jäid sest siis oli nii, et selle ala vastasei, armastuseja inimeste vastaseid tehnoloogiaid, ei olnud nii palju...
ja tehnoloogiate hulka käib pealiskaudsus, üle töötamine, karjääritamine.. muude võlts meeldivuste tekitamine.. oma lähedase vigu ignoreerimine ja idev sarviku kõrva sosistamine igasuguste ideede osas
ja et missee põhi asi on, pealearmastuse, miks koos olla sooviti ..
.. ja need eluarusaamad üksteisele eriti oluliselt tuleb punuda kui tahta loota, et midagi kestma jääb...
ega vana aeg enam pole nus naturaalsest armastusest ja praktilisusest inimesed kokku jäid sest siis oli nii, et selle ala vastasei, armastuseja inimeste vastaseid tehnoloogiaid, ei olnud nii palju...
ja tehnoloogiate hulka käib pealiskaudsus, üle töötamine, karjääritamine.. muude võlts meeldivuste tekitamine.. oma lähedase vigu ignoreerimine ja idev sarviku kõrva sosistamine igasuguste ideede osas
17 March 2017 14:11
Margus Meigo replied to Bianca Kõivumägi's comment.
( : ( )
kuigi vaata asja positiivset külge, vähemalt Sa veel saad näha ja nutta, need ju asjad mida igale inimesele pole antud, be happy and blessed with what you got..
ja ... ja . .vot jah.. sedasi,.. et nagu ... see küünilinetundub, kuid mõtle, kui nägemis võimet poleks või nutmis võimet..
või tunde võimet...
ja eks meestel ka, needutnde võimed ja peadsassi keeratakse, siin armastust ei ole lihtne hoida praeguses olukrras on segajaid ja selel hävitajaid nii palju.. ja reaalselt selle vastu sõditakse
kuigi vaata asja positiivset külge, vähemalt Sa veel saad näha ja nutta, need ju asjad mida igale inimesele pole antud, be happy and blessed with what you got..
ja ... ja . .vot jah.. sedasi,.. et nagu ... see küünilinetundub, kuid mõtle, kui nägemis võimet poleks või nutmis võimet..
või tunde võimet...
ja eks meestel ka, needutnde võimed ja peadsassi keeratakse, siin armastust ei ole lihtne hoida praeguses olukrras on segajaid ja selel hävitajaid nii palju.. ja reaalselt selle vastu sõditakse
17 March 2017 14:09
Margus Meigo replied to Bianca Kõivumägi's comment.
kes seda ütles,
lugesid seda kuskilt emokate seinalt v?
(ma meelega suts soola haavale panin asja toimestamiseks)
lugesid seda kuskilt emokate seinalt v?
(ma meelega suts soola haavale panin asja toimestamiseks)
17 March 2017 14:06
Margus Meigo replied to Bianca Kõivumägi's comment.
ma neile rebin
17 March 2017 13:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yeah, dude is like "Well.. why not... what else we do then..."
17 March 2017 13:49
Margus Meigo commented on Clark Heinrich's post.
the ending of it a bit, and then the girl keeps shouting at "G deem, f ..."
but the guy filming it is proper lifer, just laughting at it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R51jmndHEr4
but the guy filming it is proper lifer, just laughting at it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R51jmndHEr4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R51jmndHEr4
17 March 2017 09:52
Margus Meigo replied to Steven Marshank's comment.
is that FDA approved ?
17 March 2017 08:41
Margus Meigo replied to Alvin-San Whaley's comment.
oh sorry i think you talk about trump
17 March 2017 05:17
Margus Meigo replied to Alvin-San Whaley's comment.
agreed by 2005 for sure, planned something like that long before
17 March 2017 05:16
Margus Meigo replied to Alvin-San Whaley's comment.
becouse it is curent program to do so
17 March 2017 05:16
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Ten we kind of.. start to asume... the scoope of what we protest against, or what kind of world we try to change.. and in what levels our "opponents" are up front of us..
and remeber, this is just small part of public .. section.. .
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Ten we kind of.. start to asume... the scoope of what we protest against, or what kind of world we try to change.. and in what levels our "opponents" are up front of us..
and remeber, this is just small part of public .. section.. .
..
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Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
from 90's
Method and apparatus for changing brain wave frequency
US 5036858 A
Abstract
A method for changing brain wave frequency to a desired frequency determines a current brain wave frequency of a user, generates two frequencies with a frequency difference of a magnitude between that of the current actual brain wave frequency and the desired frequency but always within a predetermined range of the current actual brain wave frequency, and produces an output to the user corresponding to the two frequencies. One apparatus to accomplish the method has a computer processor, a computer memory, EEG electrodes along with an amplifier, a programmable timing generator responsive to the computer processor for generating the two frequencies, audio amplifiers and a beat frequency generator driving a visual frequency amplifier
https://www.google.com.na/patents/US5036858
Method and apparatus for changing brain wave frequency
US 5036858 A
Abstract
A method for changing brain wave frequency to a desired frequency determines a current brain wave frequency of a user, generates two frequencies with a frequency difference of a magnitude between that of the current actual brain wave frequency and the desired frequency but always within a predetermined range of the current actual brain wave frequency, and produces an output to the user corresponding to the two frequencies. One apparatus to accomplish the method has a computer processor, a computer memory, EEG electrodes along with an amplifier, a programmable timing generator responsive to the computer processor for generating the two frequencies, audio amplifiers and a beat frequency generator driving a visual frequency amplifier
https://www.google.com.na/patents/US5036858
https://www.google.com.na/patents/US5036858
17 March 2017 03:35
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17 March 2017 03:31
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Forte's post.
Ad link also, more easy:
https://www.google.com/patents/US6506148
Publication type Grant
Application number US 09/872,528
Also published as US20020188164
Publication number US6506148 B2
Publication date 14 jaan. 2003
Filing date 1 juuni 2001
Original Assignee Hendricus G. Loos
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"The image displayed on a computer monitor may be pulsed effectively by a simple computer program. For certain monitors, pulsed electromagnetic fields capable of exciting sensory resonances in nearby subjects may be generated even as the displayed images are pulsed with subliminal intensity.
Physiological effects have been observed in a human subject in response to stimulation of the skin with weak electromagnetic fields that are pulsed with certain frequencies near ½ Hz or 2.4 Hz, such as to excite a sensory resonance. Many computer monitors and TV tubes, when displaying pulsed images, emit pulsed electromagnetic fields of sufficient amplitudes to cause such excitation. It is therefore possible to manipulate the nervous system of a subject by pulsing images displayed on a nearby computer monitor or TV set. For the latter, the image pulsing may be imbedded in the program material, or it may be overlaid by modulating a video stream, either as an RF signal or as a video signal. "
a pulse routine for pulsing the image intensity with a frequency in the range 0.1 Hz to 15 Hz; and
a frequency routine that can be internally controlled by the subject, for setting the frequency;
whereby the emitted electromagnetic field is pulsed, the cutaneous nerves are exposed to the pulsed electromagnetic field, and the spiking patterns of the nerves acquire a frequency modulation.
// Hz is one per second //
https://www.google.com/patents/US6506148
Publication type Grant
Application number US 09/872,528
Also published as US20020188164
Publication number US6506148 B2
Publication date 14 jaan. 2003
Filing date 1 juuni 2001
Original Assignee Hendricus G. Loos
Export Citation BiBTeX, EndNote, RefMan
"The image displayed on a computer monitor may be pulsed effectively by a simple computer program. For certain monitors, pulsed electromagnetic fields capable of exciting sensory resonances in nearby subjects may be generated even as the displayed images are pulsed with subliminal intensity.
Physiological effects have been observed in a human subject in response to stimulation of the skin with weak electromagnetic fields that are pulsed with certain frequencies near ½ Hz or 2.4 Hz, such as to excite a sensory resonance. Many computer monitors and TV tubes, when displaying pulsed images, emit pulsed electromagnetic fields of sufficient amplitudes to cause such excitation. It is therefore possible to manipulate the nervous system of a subject by pulsing images displayed on a nearby computer monitor or TV set. For the latter, the image pulsing may be imbedded in the program material, or it may be overlaid by modulating a video stream, either as an RF signal or as a video signal. "
a pulse routine for pulsing the image intensity with a frequency in the range 0.1 Hz to 15 Hz; and
a frequency routine that can be internally controlled by the subject, for setting the frequency;
whereby the emitted electromagnetic field is pulsed, the cutaneous nerves are exposed to the pulsed electromagnetic field, and the spiking patterns of the nerves acquire a frequency modulation.
// Hz is one per second //
https://www.google.com/patents/US6506148
17 March 2017 03:31
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Forte's post.
Seems this contactlist is settled, mine is like a meter long
17 March 2017 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
Why they use these kind of communist ugly pictures of Adolf all the time, is he's Gov actions not enought?
We all know he was more like that actually:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater
We all know he was more like that actually:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater
17 March 2017 01:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and for sure the turue respect for female.. is that whatthey all afraid.
17 March 2017 01:52
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
Well, not "for putin" but the thing is much bigger..
Entire USA is place that should in the end be and do as Third Rome, Russia / Soviet plans have been, nothing much has changed... and to single out Rand Paul when our current president state secretary is one of the well most known and deepest friend of highest people in russia nearly all sectors..
but as Zirinovsky told.. "We Will elect out ovn presdent in USA... and then.."
well, this wastheir old plan, nothing supricing here.
Just usashoukd realise,that their flag colors, are same as russia,
their pentagram center symbol is same as russia soviet pentagram,
and their state logo from Roman Empire times, two headed eagle, is just one step higher from USA one headed Eagle... Yonger brother, as Russia sees USA,
justtakes time to bring familly under one union...
EU got their pentagrams on flag also, (thanks to one Turkey vote on 60 s.. ) and their actions in the end is not so dramastically different in outcomes
when we consider the aim to be, to eliminate national states, nationalistic states, cultures and heritage and shamanism
Entire USA is place that should in the end be and do as Third Rome, Russia / Soviet plans have been, nothing much has changed... and to single out Rand Paul when our current president state secretary is one of the well most known and deepest friend of highest people in russia nearly all sectors..
but as Zirinovsky told.. "We Will elect out ovn presdent in USA... and then.."
well, this wastheir old plan, nothing supricing here.
Just usashoukd realise,that their flag colors, are same as russia,
their pentagram center symbol is same as russia soviet pentagram,
and their state logo from Roman Empire times, two headed eagle, is just one step higher from USA one headed Eagle... Yonger brother, as Russia sees USA,
justtakes time to bring familly under one union...
EU got their pentagrams on flag also, (thanks to one Turkey vote on 60 s.. ) and their actions in the end is not so dramastically different in outcomes
when we consider the aim to be, to eliminate national states, nationalistic states, cultures and heritage and shamanism
17 March 2017 01:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
... nu ja sellisel alusel paljud need suhted tekivad meil siin maal ja siis pole ju ime... et päris armastus lihtsalt tulla ei saa ja kui ka tuleb.. siis talle enam ennast kinkida, pole..
kui ainukesele
kui ainukesele
16 March 2017 23:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja alustab igaks juhuks "hey, Nii meeldiv Sind näha jälle! (L) "
(nu kui ütleb, et pole näinud siis ajab miskit udu unenägudest ja tunnetest jms)
ja samal ajal tüdruk juba messib sõbrannale:
"Jeee ta vastas, ta ootas mu kirja, mõtles mulle, tal hea meel mind näha, ma nii pabinas, mis ma nüüd edais ütlema peaks?? Ei taha ära rikkuda, eriti kuna ma vist väga meeldin talle, saatis (L) ka mulle "
(nu kui ütleb, et pole näinud siis ajab miskit udu unenägudest ja tunnetest jms)
ja samal ajal tüdruk juba messib sõbrannale:
"Jeee ta vastas, ta ootas mu kirja, mõtles mulle, tal hea meel mind näha, ma nii pabinas, mis ma nüüd edais ütlema peaks?? Ei taha ära rikkuda, eriti kuna ma vist väga meeldin talle, saatis (L) ka mulle "
16 March 2017 23:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja hiljem vaatab, et "mingi täiesti lambi tsik kirjutab"
ja kutt mõtleb, et "nu võiks mingit teemat ajada, huvitav millega talle muljet jätta et nagu me samamoodi mingitest asjadest hoolime . see läheb alati peale enamusele.. (nagu YT videos "how to get any tsik" soovitati).
ja kutt mõtleb, et "nu võiks mingit teemat ajada, huvitav millega talle muljet jätta et nagu me samamoodi mingitest asjadest hoolime . see läheb alati peale enamusele.. (nagu YT videos "how to get any tsik" soovitati).
16 March 2017 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja snapshatib sõbrannale oma feimari Laigi ja to annab Naiste ajakirjast miskit pseudo psüholoogilist tarka nõu mis profiilikat peaks panema ta tähelepanu jaoks vms,
seeaeg kutt skrollib veel paar postitust, vaatab.. ."no more boobs.. okey google.."
seeaeg kutt skrollib veel paar postitust, vaatab.. ."no more boobs.. okey google.."
16 March 2017 23:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siiras tüdruk vaatab " Oiii.. nii armas,ma teatsin kohe, et me ühel lainel, ta nii nummi! "
16 March 2017 23:31
Margus Meigo commented on Bianca Kõivumägi's post.
kuskil sõna "attenton" ja "honesti" vahepeal enamus meestel juba selle pika jutupeale tähelepanu läinud ja aju registreerib "boooobs..." ... skipping text... "more.." boobs... "
skipping.. "Money.."... okey, yes need that, to get booobs... mm... yea, Like
skipping.. "Money.."... okey, yes need that, to get booobs... mm... yea, Like
16 March 2017 23:31
Margus Meigo commented on Bianca Kõivumägi's post.
hey but u not
16 March 2017 23:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mida tõlgid ja mida loed töö juures?
16 March 2017 23:28
Margus Meigo commented on Bianca Kõivumägi's photo.
Cortanat kohtasid siis v?
16 March 2017 23:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja peale deiti pleikar on nagu über emotsionaalses erutus seisundis " You bitch!!!! "
chick süüdistavalt " i told you! "
chick süüdistavalt " i told you! "
16 March 2017 23:26
Margus Meigo commented on Bianca Kõivumägi's post.
Overkill
Iseeneses,t pole päris kõige atraktiivsem tutvumiskuulutus :D
"Hey boy's, i am 17, blond, outgoing, intelligent, atractive and like sports. I also like to punch you in to a face and then stab you in the back"
Iseeneses,t pole päris kõige atraktiivsem tutvumiskuulutus :D
"Hey boy's, i am 17, blond, outgoing, intelligent, atractive and like sports. I also like to punch you in to a face and then stab you in the back"
16 March 2017 23:22
Margus Meigo replied to Bianca Kõivumägi's comment.
parem on siis küsida "Kas tahad lähen toon Sulle ühe bloki veel?"
16 March 2017 23:18
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Tanel Tina näe sind jagatakse punastele
16 March 2017 23:14
Margus Meigo replied to Jan Renlund's comment.
nu mitte päris
16 March 2017 21:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vaat kui he vide leidsin ratest:
http://www.rate.ee/video.php?video=2442822&alert_id=3809673992
http://www.rate.ee/video.php?video=2442822&alert_id=3809673992
16 March 2017 20:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
16 March 2017 20:39
Margus Meigo replied to Magnus Nöörlaid's comment.
mis sa sellest talle annad
16 March 2017 00:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
( http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2uxfm0 )
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2uxfm0
15 March 2017 19:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või kui on, siison hea, asjakohaline juhus
15 March 2017 19:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
esimeses Ega sirpi nad igavusest tagunud ja ega mõõk juhuslikult ristikujuga ole viimases : )
15 March 2017 19:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja muidugi siis tänapäeva otsene kiht, selge pildiga http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3oo35x_veljo-tormis-raua-needmine-curse-upon-iron_school
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3oo35x_veljo-tormis-raua-needmine-curse-upon-iron_school
15 March 2017 19:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siin kunstiliselt hästi näidetud kui mitte lihtne on kurjaga võidelda, kui süveneda tunnetusse suudad neile karakterite käitumisele selles... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3oo362_raua-needmine-pille-tammjoe-sveta-bogomolova_school
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3oo362_raua-needmine-pille-tammjoe-sveta-bogomolova_school
15 March 2017 19:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu siin see asi tegelikult ongi, kuid meie kaua aega tagasi ära läinud ja ära karanud kurjad nüüd tagasi tulnud (nagu batlestar calacticas, see seriaal, hästi näitas seal seda olukorda, ...inimesed ise ei saanud arugi filmi lõpuks et nende enda mõjukaimaid sõjaväe pealike ja vastuvõitlejaid oli ise kloon ja ta ise ka seda ei teadnutki ,et ta inimene pole.. ) kogu kosmose ja muu paha haisuga seda looduse südant siin vallutama pool arusaamatuses mida nad taga ise ajavad ja pool ihas ja pool matemaatika järgi, et kus on parimate südame soovid ja võimekamate ligilähedus.
shamaani rahva pärijana proovi see asi nüüd kuulata korra veel sõnadega ja näed, et ka meie esivanemad ammu asja on laulu pannud ja moodisaega isegi meile videosse toonud, nõuka ajal juba... kuid eks kui nende sõnade taguseid täpsemaid tagamaid oskaksime tajuda reaalsete siduvustega selles infos milles ise elame..
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3oo360_veljo-tormis-raua-needmine-curse-upon-iron-1986_school
shamaani rahva pärijana proovi see asi nüüd kuulata korra veel sõnadega ja näed, et ka meie esivanemad ammu asja on laulu pannud ja moodisaega isegi meile videosse toonud, nõuka ajal juba... kuid eks kui nende sõnade taguseid täpsemaid tagamaid oskaksime tajuda reaalsete siduvustega selles infos milles ise elame..
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3oo360_veljo-tormis-raua-needmine-curse-upon-iron-1986_school
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3oo360_veljo-tormis-raua-needmine-curse-upon-iron-1986_school
15 March 2017 19:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga hea asja jätkamiseks
seleta siis korra ära need tähendused:
Kurat, Lutsifer, Saatan
kes need on, samad või erinevad?
Kas kedagi nendest üleval või ligilähedaselt allpool tead, olema ebaheal poolel kes ohtlik või mõjuvõimas koosluse või üksikuna ?
Mis moodi nad toimivad (need kolm esimest kasvõi ) ja kus nad redutavad, millest nad toituvad, mis mõte nende eksistensil on kui neil teadmised on, et nad ei saa hakkama..
seleta siis korra ära need tähendused:
Kurat, Lutsifer, Saatan
kes need on, samad või erinevad?
Kas kedagi nendest üleval või ligilähedaselt allpool tead, olema ebaheal poolel kes ohtlik või mõjuvõimas koosluse või üksikuna ?
Mis moodi nad toimivad (need kolm esimest kasvõi ) ja kus nad redutavad, millest nad toituvad, mis mõte nende eksistensil on kui neil teadmised on, et nad ei saa hakkama..
15 March 2017 13:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
näe siin ka uus tark räägib, tund 16, sellest kuidas jeesus lutsiferi tegi http://heli.er.ee/helid/919222.mp3 ... kuid kogu jah, nende loogikate suures plaanis selles niipalju suuri auke kui kogu asja tervikna vaadata et on kohe
http://heli.er.ee/helid/919222.mp3
15 March 2017 13:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja mõni peab piibli osaks uut testamenti ka ju,
mida siis loetakse nagu
mida siis loetakse nagu
15 March 2017 13:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu näha on, et see lugemine pole suurele osale ju arusaama toonud,
kui mul teada poleks suund siis ma ei räägiks
kui mul teada poleks suund siis ma ei räägiks
15 March 2017 13:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mis metsmaasikatel viga on ja seentel ?
15 March 2017 13:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja point jääb samaks ,pressist jumalat asju välja, oli ülbe, oli naisest eemalduv,
ei soosinud perekondasi vaid ikka teavasse ja taevasse selleasemel, et siin SIIN asjad korda saada, selleks, et mujal korda saaks,
mis teavasse me siin otsime kui pole siingi hakkama saanud, hui sinna "teavasse" vaja ronida üldse on
ei soosinud perekondasi vaid ikka teavasse ja taevasse selleasemel, et siin SIIN asjad korda saada, selleks, et mujal korda saaks,
mis teavasse me siin otsime kui pole siingi hakkama saanud, hui sinna "teavasse" vaja ronida üldse on
15 March 2017 13:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ahaha.. vaata kui mugav tal siis siin ringi trallata oli sandaalides ja teatrit teha
hmm ja milline juhuslik kokkusattumus, et neid samamoodi nimetatakse ka, et lutsiferi ja jeesuse nimi üks ja sama on,
nagu nimesi vähe siis mille järgi ennast kutsuda v, ehk oleks ta suure tarkuse juures endale ikka mõne muu nime valinud kui suurima jumala vaenalse oma
hmm ja milline juhuslik kokkusattumus, et neid samamoodi nimetatakse ka, et lutsiferi ja jeesuse nimi üks ja sama on,
nagu nimesi vähe siis mille järgi ennast kutsuda v, ehk oleks ta suure tarkuse juures endale ikka mõne muu nime valinud kui suurima jumala vaenalse oma
15 March 2017 13:00
Margus Meigo replied to Sass Kuurmann's comment.
eks asi on ikka selles, et lipsu kantakse,
ja naised ise ka meestel ei keela seda...
ja mehed naisi ei päästa naiste vangistustest, valest moest jms
ja naised ise ka meestel ei keela seda...
ja mehed naisi ei päästa naiste vangistustest, valest moest jms
15 March 2017 12:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jaa.. The Urantia Book vennad ka palju jeeussest teavad,
üks ja samaskeem inimesi orjastada nende alla kes siin ennast meie looja asemele sättida proovivad ja jumala suunas keskendumise asemel pilla palla laiali eri suundades üks yhesuguse ja teine teisesuguse jeesuse suunas
üks ja samaskeem inimesi orjastada nende alla kes siin ennast meie looja asemele sättida proovivad ja jumala suunas keskendumise asemel pilla palla laiali eri suundades üks yhesuguse ja teine teisesuguse jeesuse suunas
15 March 2017 12:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja see ülbus ka mis tal oli ning jumalat välja pressimine ja enda jumala positsioonile sedasi seadmise, et suur osa kristlasi siiamaani teda jumalaks nimetavad ja arvavad, et see üks ja sama asi, ja jahuvad jeeusest kogu aja pool deliiriumis nagu iga muu sektori utoopid asju praktiliselt läbi mõtlemata selle asemel, et reaalselt jumalale vajalikule keskenduda
15 March 2017 12:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kui siis see saatan ise oligi jeesus, siis peaksid nii nimed kui ka teod ja filosoofia ja kogu see rooma kompott paika ning teod
15 March 2017 12:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei see piibel eriti lilitist miskit räägi
15 March 2017 12:54
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Raimong: hea katse, aga Vanaemal ei ole mingit hälvet,
Unustad nagu pool lausest ära eks?
Ja eeldad, et need sõjaväe armeed ja laborid kes kõikvõimalike katseid ja vägistamisi teevad on siis hälbega?
Psühhopaadid siis on ka vaimse hälbega?
Kuid ütleme siis nii, et lapsel on ajukasvaja või vähk,
mis tekitatud MEELEGA lohakusest inimeste poolt kes kemikaale meie maailma või toitu lasid (mis tekitasid selle lapsel või vanematel vea mis lapsele kandus), raha eesmärgil (said uuringud, öeldi, et nii läheb, aga nad ütlesid "suva" need ebaolulised rahakõrval mida endale teenime) Või...
mingi inimliigi, perepuude, kogukondade, hävitamiseks mis on väga populaarne tegevus olnud siiani (sund steriliseerimine liberaalide poolt, mille viimane laine Peruulaste likvideerimiseks lõppes aastal 2000 kus üle 300 000 iidse keele kandja välja valiti peruulaste seast kellele lõpp tehti, vabandusega, et see majandusele kasulikum sest nad ei taha lipsu kanda jms),
kuidas see "hea" ja "kasulik" on, arvestades, et nad meeletut rahvameditsiini ja folk lugude andmebaasi oma kogukonnas omavad. Ja muidu ka, nad võiks ju vist elada või mis?
Sinusugused ideoloogiad ongi Neil, sellistel hävitajatel kes õigustavad oma arusaame, et kõik on suhteline ja millegiks hea ja paha pole.
Vaime hälve, on sedasi mõelda, et pole head ega halba, reaalne hälve on see ja epideemia ja ohtlik kurjus mis seda hoiab ja tekitab. Mis, kes omakoda on paha ja paha ning ebakasulik meile, inimestele.
kuidas siis selle vanaemaga oli, mu eelmises lauses, et milleks see vanaema tegu siis muu kui hea on ?
Unustad nagu pool lausest ära eks?
Ja eeldad, et need sõjaväe armeed ja laborid kes kõikvõimalike katseid ja vägistamisi teevad on siis hälbega?
Psühhopaadid siis on ka vaimse hälbega?
Kuid ütleme siis nii, et lapsel on ajukasvaja või vähk,
mis tekitatud MEELEGA lohakusest inimeste poolt kes kemikaale meie maailma või toitu lasid (mis tekitasid selle lapsel või vanematel vea mis lapsele kandus), raha eesmärgil (said uuringud, öeldi, et nii läheb, aga nad ütlesid "suva" need ebaolulised rahakõrval mida endale teenime) Või...
mingi inimliigi, perepuude, kogukondade, hävitamiseks mis on väga populaarne tegevus olnud siiani (sund steriliseerimine liberaalide poolt, mille viimane laine Peruulaste likvideerimiseks lõppes aastal 2000 kus üle 300 000 iidse keele kandja välja valiti peruulaste seast kellele lõpp tehti, vabandusega, et see majandusele kasulikum sest nad ei taha lipsu kanda jms),
kuidas see "hea" ja "kasulik" on, arvestades, et nad meeletut rahvameditsiini ja folk lugude andmebaasi oma kogukonnas omavad. Ja muidu ka, nad võiks ju vist elada või mis?
Sinusugused ideoloogiad ongi Neil, sellistel hävitajatel kes õigustavad oma arusaame, et kõik on suhteline ja millegiks hea ja paha pole.
Vaime hälve, on sedasi mõelda, et pole head ega halba, reaalne hälve on see ja epideemia ja ohtlik kurjus mis seda hoiab ja tekitab. Mis, kes omakoda on paha ja paha ning ebakasulik meile, inimestele.
kuidas siis selle vanaemaga oli, mu eelmises lauses, et milleks see vanaema tegu siis muu kui hea on ?
15 March 2017 12:53
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
ruumi veel on hulga jägu, suure hulga jagu,
kuid siis pole peale seda enam midagi järgi ka vast
kuid siis pole peale seda enam midagi järgi ka vast
15 March 2017 10:57
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
kuid yea, sellised politsei teaded muidu suht ausad algust kuulates,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnQ5zNDix7U
eestis pole selliselt räägitud isegi... kunagi vist,
et nagu ütleb suht ausalt mis muidu on ametlikud effektid ja mis juhtus, sest oli "bad pach" .. ehk siis andes mõista, et on hea E ja paha E
tüüp suht äärepeal räägib niigi. ilma promomata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnQ5zNDix7U
eestis pole selliselt räägitud isegi... kunagi vist,
et nagu ütleb suht ausalt mis muidu on ametlikud effektid ja mis juhtus, sest oli "bad pach" .. ehk siis andes mõista, et on hea E ja paha E
tüüp suht äärepeal räägib niigi. ilma promomata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnQ5zNDix7U
15 March 2017 06:10
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
neil isegi reddit selles osas,
ja see ka hea tähelepanek, et nagu täis trippiv tyyp ja ilma kaitsesirmita tagaistmel, ned mendid päris enesekindlad sääl, ex amon vb vms :D
"He's in the back of a cop car, yet there is no grated window separating the cops from the criminals and his hands aren't cuffed?"
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/1749gv/russian_dude_tripping_balls_on_mdma_in_the_back/
ja see ka hea tähelepanek, et nagu täis trippiv tyyp ja ilma kaitsesirmita tagaistmel, ned mendid päris enesekindlad sääl, ex amon vb vms :D
"He's in the back of a cop car, yet there is no grated window separating the cops from the criminals and his hands aren't cuffed?"
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/1749gv/russian_dude_tripping_balls_on_mdma_in_the_back/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/1749gv/russian_dude_tripping_balls_on_mdma_in_the_back/
15 March 2017 06:03
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
muidugi, kuula mis mussi nad siin ise lõpus kuulavad :p
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c8a_1358611461
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c8a_1358611461
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c8a_1358611461
15 March 2017 05:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
if we all trip a bit more then all these versions will become much more clearer, in so many ways
15 March 2017 05:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" The Bible says nothing about the existence and death of any pre-Adamite creatures, either spirited or spiritless. Some Christians say that Adam was the first man to be made in the image of God, though there were also human-like creatures before him. But they have assumed that the alleged Pre-Adamic fossils constitute a reliable record; i.e. the fossils have been interpreted correctly in both anatomy and age. They are also, in effect, saying:
that the first land animals and man were not created by God at the same time, namely during the 24 hours of Day Six of Creation Week, as Genesis 1 clearly states;
that the short age timescale in Genesis (obtained from the genealogies and other parts of the Bible, e.g. Mark 10:6) is not correct;
that the Curse of death in the created world was not the result of Adam’s sin, as Genesis 3 states. If pre-Adamite creatures were living and dying for hundreds of thousands/millions of years before Adam, then the connection is lost between the first Adam, who brought physical death into the world, and the last Adam (the Lord Jesus Christ), who brought physical resurrection from the dead (1 Corinthians 15:22, 45).10 As Adam was federal head of the entire creation, his Fall affected everything else (Romans 8:20–22). The fact is that, Biblically, all physical death has occurred since Adam’s Fall, not before. “As sincere as they may be, those [Christians] who espouse the pre-Adamite theory and its history of death before Adam are actually endangering the very doctrine of salvation they hold dear.”10
that the ‘very good’ world which God created included carnivory, despite the Genesis 1:29–30 teaching that animals and humans were originally vegetarian.
The human fossil record reveals the pre-Adamite theory to be in error.
The Bible tells us that Adam was the first biological man—in Genesis 1–5; Deuteronomy 32:8; 1 Chronicles 1:1; Luke 3:38; Romans 5:14; 1 Corinthians 15:22, 45; 1 Timothy 2:13; and Jude 1:14. So, how many parts of the Bible are they willing to concede as being ‘errant’, or in need of ‘reinterpreting’, in order to accommodate the evolutionary/uniformitarian interpretation of the fossil record?
that the first land animals and man were not created by God at the same time, namely during the 24 hours of Day Six of Creation Week, as Genesis 1 clearly states;
that the short age timescale in Genesis (obtained from the genealogies and other parts of the Bible, e.g. Mark 10:6) is not correct;
that the Curse of death in the created world was not the result of Adam’s sin, as Genesis 3 states. If pre-Adamite creatures were living and dying for hundreds of thousands/millions of years before Adam, then the connection is lost between the first Adam, who brought physical death into the world, and the last Adam (the Lord Jesus Christ), who brought physical resurrection from the dead (1 Corinthians 15:22, 45).10 As Adam was federal head of the entire creation, his Fall affected everything else (Romans 8:20–22). The fact is that, Biblically, all physical death has occurred since Adam’s Fall, not before. “As sincere as they may be, those [Christians] who espouse the pre-Adamite theory and its history of death before Adam are actually endangering the very doctrine of salvation they hold dear.”10
that the ‘very good’ world which God created included carnivory, despite the Genesis 1:29–30 teaching that animals and humans were originally vegetarian.
The human fossil record reveals the pre-Adamite theory to be in error.
The Bible tells us that Adam was the first biological man—in Genesis 1–5; Deuteronomy 32:8; 1 Chronicles 1:1; Luke 3:38; Romans 5:14; 1 Corinthians 15:22, 45; 1 Timothy 2:13; and Jude 1:14. So, how many parts of the Bible are they willing to concede as being ‘errant’, or in need of ‘reinterpreting’, in order to accommodate the evolutionary/uniformitarian interpretation of the fossil record?
15 March 2017 05:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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IMHO, this is your strangest theological opinion/analysis yet.
GadFly said: ↑
We must consider Adam the greatest intellect of the universe. Why then did God say, don't eat of the tree of knowledge?.
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Cat got your tongue? Why is it strange? Explain this:
1Cor:15:45: And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Who was the Adam of the quickening Spirit and don't you believe God gave Adam the intellect he needed to care for God's creation? There has never been an intellect like that since the first man Adam, not a scientist or philosophy teacher could match the intellect of Adam. Or, do you say different? Keep trying and some day you will catch me in error but not today.
// but then we are on to something
The Sakes knows that if you take the Spirit out of man, worship, and the new revelation that man must live and walk in the Spirit, that the only thing left is humanism. Walking in the flesh is the definition of humanism in the scriptures. The liberal Christian's point of view will disagree with this statement but if it is proven that walking in the flesh is not humanism, the truth that walking in the flesh is nevertheless a sinful walk is still true. The argument So there is still no difference, now is there? The argument that humanism is neutral morality is simply a semantical argument of the Snake and should not be believed. Humanism is walking in the flesh and is a sinful walk.
The importance of being born of the Spirit has been questioned only by liberal Christians and humanist. With all their alleged dangerousness, no fundamentalist has challenged the Spirit of God in the new birth. That is no accident as it has always been the Snake's desire to divide the Spirit from the flesh because that eliminates and brings death to the soul. Remember the equation: Dust/flesh/carnal nature, plus Spirit = the soul. Eliminate the Spirit means you void the soul, which is eternal death. See, that is easy.
What does science seek to do? Too much of modern science has eliminated otology from the scientific method. This political correctness forbids science from referring to God and claims any observation that appeals to the supernatural is bad science. That is really stupid because the scientific method is an ontological thing. The scientific method is more like God and ontology than anything man knows that is not part of the physical world. Remember, we have already established the fact that God is a Method, he is the way. Oh! The argument that science can not use a reference to God is a semantical argument. Here is the Snake again in all his subtlety and the liberals and humanist want you to accept their semantical argument. The Spirit is too smart for that.
What we need is scriptural confirmation of what I just said and here it is.
Rom:8:9: But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Boy! It is a terrible and embarrassing thing to be told by the scriptures that you are not of the body of Christ but here we are. Now, the debate can really begin. The Snake has been told on again and the war on the spiritual world will be furiously contested.
Eph:6:12: For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-first-command-of-god-to-man.7561182/
and, the last adam.. what they say is crist and
...and was made quickening spirit..
IMHO, this is your strangest theological opinion/analysis yet.
GadFly said: ↑
We must consider Adam the greatest intellect of the universe. Why then did God say, don't eat of the tree of knowledge?.
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Cat got your tongue? Why is it strange? Explain this:
1Cor:15:45: And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Who was the Adam of the quickening Spirit and don't you believe God gave Adam the intellect he needed to care for God's creation? There has never been an intellect like that since the first man Adam, not a scientist or philosophy teacher could match the intellect of Adam. Or, do you say different? Keep trying and some day you will catch me in error but not today.
// but then we are on to something
The Sakes knows that if you take the Spirit out of man, worship, and the new revelation that man must live and walk in the Spirit, that the only thing left is humanism. Walking in the flesh is the definition of humanism in the scriptures. The liberal Christian's point of view will disagree with this statement but if it is proven that walking in the flesh is not humanism, the truth that walking in the flesh is nevertheless a sinful walk is still true. The argument So there is still no difference, now is there? The argument that humanism is neutral morality is simply a semantical argument of the Snake and should not be believed. Humanism is walking in the flesh and is a sinful walk.
The importance of being born of the Spirit has been questioned only by liberal Christians and humanist. With all their alleged dangerousness, no fundamentalist has challenged the Spirit of God in the new birth. That is no accident as it has always been the Snake's desire to divide the Spirit from the flesh because that eliminates and brings death to the soul. Remember the equation: Dust/flesh/carnal nature, plus Spirit = the soul. Eliminate the Spirit means you void the soul, which is eternal death. See, that is easy.
What does science seek to do? Too much of modern science has eliminated otology from the scientific method. This political correctness forbids science from referring to God and claims any observation that appeals to the supernatural is bad science. That is really stupid because the scientific method is an ontological thing. The scientific method is more like God and ontology than anything man knows that is not part of the physical world. Remember, we have already established the fact that God is a Method, he is the way. Oh! The argument that science can not use a reference to God is a semantical argument. Here is the Snake again in all his subtlety and the liberals and humanist want you to accept their semantical argument. The Spirit is too smart for that.
What we need is scriptural confirmation of what I just said and here it is.
Rom:8:9: But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Boy! It is a terrible and embarrassing thing to be told by the scriptures that you are not of the body of Christ but here we are. Now, the debate can really begin. The Snake has been told on again and the war on the spiritual world will be furiously contested.
Eph:6:12: For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-first-command-of-god-to-man.7561182/
and, the last adam.. what they say is crist and
...and was made quickening spirit..
https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-first-command-of-god-to-man.7561182/
15 March 2017 05:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//but some of these chri guys are on to stuff that hippis would like to get hooked on
like the snake part
" We started with a single premise: "God is" and that was big.
We accept God created us and everything else.
God made us special and we have dominion over his creation, We have the tools necessary to be superior to all creatures.
We are matter + Spirit = soul.
The Snake is here in his subtle forms too. He is the humanist, liberal,the flesh, the carnal man. The Snake is not the Spiritual born again man,
Science has taken ontology out of science but still uses an ontological principle as its highest measurement - the scientific method. You must believe this fact and recognize the contraindication modern science has allowed by taking God out of science and education. Science and matter just do no make sense without the principle of order that is in the universe.
We Christians must put God back into science, education, politics, and all things. We must not accept the premise of humanism and political correctness that there is no ontology. Use a different word for God, if you must but teach the principle of the need for ontology. There is not a single word that will define God and that is why Christ said he was so many things, like the way, a method, principle of order, truth, understanding and world full of books of adjectives all of which are part of an invisible world or the ontological world. The cosmological world is meaningless without ontological meaning. Teach this and students, children, scientist and educators will make the natural, automatic connection between God and science. After we establish God is, we will get to Christ. That is our next step. Stay tuned to this thread for more good stuff.
like the snake part
" We started with a single premise: "God is" and that was big.
We accept God created us and everything else.
God made us special and we have dominion over his creation, We have the tools necessary to be superior to all creatures.
We are matter + Spirit = soul.
The Snake is here in his subtle forms too. He is the humanist, liberal,the flesh, the carnal man. The Snake is not the Spiritual born again man,
Science has taken ontology out of science but still uses an ontological principle as its highest measurement - the scientific method. You must believe this fact and recognize the contraindication modern science has allowed by taking God out of science and education. Science and matter just do no make sense without the principle of order that is in the universe.
We Christians must put God back into science, education, politics, and all things. We must not accept the premise of humanism and political correctness that there is no ontology. Use a different word for God, if you must but teach the principle of the need for ontology. There is not a single word that will define God and that is why Christ said he was so many things, like the way, a method, principle of order, truth, understanding and world full of books of adjectives all of which are part of an invisible world or the ontological world. The cosmological world is meaningless without ontological meaning. Teach this and students, children, scientist and educators will make the natural, automatic connection between God and science. After we establish God is, we will get to Christ. That is our next step. Stay tuned to this thread for more good stuff.
15 March 2017 05:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
...and that Adam named her Eve “because she was the mother of all living” (Genesis 3:20).
Okey, You like say.. kind of ... ALL living?
As first 5 books are direct words of G, unlike other ones, in whole, then.. what You mean, All living, all living man, not just?
Okey, You like say.. kind of ... ALL living?
As first 5 books are direct words of G, unlike other ones, in whole, then.. what You mean, All living, all living man, not just?
15 March 2017 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
esimene käsk inimkonnale oli " Paljune "
mitte "Loe"
mitte "Loe"
15 March 2017 02:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tussu
15 March 2017 02:28
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
ja ilma liberaalse keerutamiseta, selgita see nüüd reaalselt ära, sest see on see hea mille vastu Sa vahest siis saad olla ja see on see paha mille poolt sa vahest siis oled, oma seletuses, mingis olukorras, kuid me nüüd, ma eelkõige, neid olukordi lugeda sooviks, mitte, et see mu arvamust muudaks, kuid siis näen, et sa päris meelega ei trolli pada aja vaid ise ka usud ja arusaad mida räägid, sest sul asjad on reaalselt läbi mõeldud, kõige elementaarsemad
15 March 2017 02:28
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
ütle kust poolt vaadates redsidivism lapse vastu on hea ja kust poolt vaadates heale lapsele armastava vanaema poolt teise tubliduse peale pai tegemine on halb?
15 March 2017 02:25
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov ei ta on nii sinujaoks hea kui ka minu jaoks hea ja see, et sa ei tea (toda) on halb
15 March 2017 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in estonedja police trip su out
15 March 2017 02:20
Margus Meigo commented on Dem Detectiveboy's post.
hahahahahah
Nad ise ka aru said kuidas see kõlas v :D
Nad ise ka aru said kuidas see kõlas v :D
15 March 2017 02:19
Margus Meigo commented on Dem Detectiveboy's post.
jip, that happens sometimes
15 March 2017 02:19
Margus Meigo commented on Dem Detectiveboy's post.
mul cat ka siin tranceb,
mõtleb good vcat taimidest
mõtleb good vcat taimidest
15 March 2017 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on Dem Detectiveboy's post.
still good deal tho
its about tab of acid,
that is 12 h of life in much of another time...
so you can make it eaven, if u invest well
its about tab of acid,
that is 12 h of life in much of another time...
so you can make it eaven, if u invest well
15 March 2017 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Krass's comment.
eks vaimses mõttes see põlemapanemine ka nagu jumala õnnistus meile siia saadetud oli rahva äratamiseks,
et milline tõenäosus on, et keegi loom nii arulageda asja siin maal teeb, kus neid niigi vähe ja sellisel hellal ajal.
See kuulsus jääb kestma pikaks ajaks.
Kuigi eks seda asja kunagi veel sooviks täpselt uurida, kuidas see võimalik oli ja miks need asjad juhtusid, endiselt nii arusaamatu tundub, et peaaegu veider.
et milline tõenäosus on, et keegi loom nii arulageda asja siin maal teeb, kus neid niigi vähe ja sellisel hellal ajal.
See kuulsus jääb kestma pikaks ajaks.
Kuigi eks seda asja kunagi veel sooviks täpselt uurida, kuidas see võimalik oli ja miks need asjad juhtusid, endiselt nii arusaamatu tundub, et peaaegu veider.
14 March 2017 12:41
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
tegelikult ei ole ka väga naljakas, kurb on, sest seda on paljud isegi mitte vasakpoolsed (kultuuri vastased) uskuma hakanud ning tõsimeeli räägivad.
Alles TÜ üks teoloog tuli ja tõsimeeli mulle hakkas ka rääkima, et kõik on suhteline ja hea on halb ja ega keegi saa kunagi teada mis on paha ja kas hea on olemas. Jms,
Muidu nagu täiskasvanud inimene oli ise
Alles TÜ üks teoloog tuli ja tõsimeeli mulle hakkas ka rääkima, et kõik on suhteline ja hea on halb ja ega keegi saa kunagi teada mis on paha ja kas hea on olemas. Jms,
Muidu nagu täiskasvanud inimene oli ise
14 March 2017 12:36
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
väga naljakas
14 March 2017 12:35
Margus Meigo commented on Harri Kingo's note.
Eesotsas vasak müürlaste ja Fabian Societiga (1884) meil siin muidu peaks olema lihtne ja selge näha kuhu proovitakse suunduda.... sildid räägivad iseenda eest
meetod:
""The logo of the Fabian Society, a tortoise, represented the group’s predilection for a slow, imperceptible transition to socialism, while its coat of arms, a 'wolf in sheep’s clothing', represented its preferred methodology for achieving its goal."
The wolf in sheep’s clothing symbolism was later abandoned, due to its obvious negative connotations."
(praegusel logol: "when we strike, we strike hard)
meetod otseselt sõnastatud:
"For the right moment you must wait, as Fabius did most patiently, when warring against Hannibal, though many censured his delays; but when the time comes you must strike hard, as Fabius did, or your waiting will be in vain, and fruitless"
"The Fellowship of the New Life was dissolved in 1899, but the Fabian Society grew to become the pre-eminent academic society .."
Subsidiaries: Young Fabians, Fabian Women's Network, Scottish Fabians, around 60 local Fabian Societies
Ja siissuur hulk muid mõttekeskusi, milest osadparempoolsed ja loomulikult viisnurga enda poolt loodud... kuid jah, .. peame.. peame selle seest leidma pääsu..
http://www.thebestschools.org/features/most-influential-think-tanks/
http://think-tanks.insidegov.com/d/t/Liberal
http://www.citizensource.com/Opinion&Policy/ThinkTanks.htm
http://www.thinktankwatch.com/2016/01/2016-think-tank-rankings-cheat-sheet.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/1576447/The-top-twelve-think-tanks-in-Britain.html
http://guides.library.upenn.edu/c.php?g=475515&p=3254751
meetod:
""The logo of the Fabian Society, a tortoise, represented the group’s predilection for a slow, imperceptible transition to socialism, while its coat of arms, a 'wolf in sheep’s clothing', represented its preferred methodology for achieving its goal."
The wolf in sheep’s clothing symbolism was later abandoned, due to its obvious negative connotations."
(praegusel logol: "when we strike, we strike hard)
meetod otseselt sõnastatud:
"For the right moment you must wait, as Fabius did most patiently, when warring against Hannibal, though many censured his delays; but when the time comes you must strike hard, as Fabius did, or your waiting will be in vain, and fruitless"
"The Fellowship of the New Life was dissolved in 1899, but the Fabian Society grew to become the pre-eminent academic society .."
Subsidiaries: Young Fabians, Fabian Women's Network, Scottish Fabians, around 60 local Fabian Societies
Ja siissuur hulk muid mõttekeskusi, milest osadparempoolsed ja loomulikult viisnurga enda poolt loodud... kuid jah, .. peame.. peame selle seest leidma pääsu..
http://www.thebestschools.org/features/most-influential-think-tanks/
http://think-tanks.insidegov.com/d/t/Liberal
http://www.citizensource.com/Opinion&Policy/ThinkTanks.htm
http://www.thinktankwatch.com/2016/01/2016-think-tank-rankings-cheat-sheet.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/1576447/The-top-twelve-think-tanks-in-Britain.html
http://guides.library.upenn.edu/c.php?g=475515&p=3254751
http://www.thebestschools.org/features/most-influential-think-tanks/
14 March 2017 12:31
Margus Meigo commented on Harri Kingo's note.
kokkuvõtvalt kapitalism on liberaalne kommunism ?
... nu siis pole ime, et nad siin, meie oma võimparteid ka idiootsusega uhkelt räägivad liberaalsetest väärtustest ja sellest et nad keskliberaalid või .. mis iganes katekoorjad nad endale valinud on kuid kui sõna liberaalne sees on ajab juba marru, kas nad vaadanud pole, et need liberaalid, olid need kes juba eugeenika alal ammu enne Adolfit, põhjamaade kandis suuri uuringuid tegid punastega, mis moodi ebasoodsaid ühiskonnas välja likvideerida, ja mitte ainult kõverate jalgadega isendeid, vaid ka neid kes liberaalselt mõelda ei oska ja miskites veidrates vanades moodides kinni on
Nende teadlased hiljem treenisid Adolfi teadlasi ka ja tihe side oli Ameeerika eugeenika kogukondadega. Kuigi ameerika omad vaata, et veel pehmemalt asja võtsid, saades aru ,et nad maailma avalik kilp hiljem on, kelle suunas kõige rohkem vaatama hakatakse. Kuigi eks nad ka ammu oma neegrite aretust tegid jms .
Venemaa ise A. Dugini sõnutsi see vabastav jõud saab olema peale seda kui liberalism oma "töö on teinud" kes uue konservatismiga meid kõiki päästab
(http://katehon.com, http://www.4pt.su ). Ameeriklaste enda pool ülistav kokkuvõtetemast: http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/the-dangerous-philosopher-behind-putins-strategy-to-grow-russian-power-at-americas-expense
... nu siis pole ime, et nad siin, meie oma võimparteid ka idiootsusega uhkelt räägivad liberaalsetest väärtustest ja sellest et nad keskliberaalid või .. mis iganes katekoorjad nad endale valinud on kuid kui sõna liberaalne sees on ajab juba marru, kas nad vaadanud pole, et need liberaalid, olid need kes juba eugeenika alal ammu enne Adolfit, põhjamaade kandis suuri uuringuid tegid punastega, mis moodi ebasoodsaid ühiskonnas välja likvideerida, ja mitte ainult kõverate jalgadega isendeid, vaid ka neid kes liberaalselt mõelda ei oska ja miskites veidrates vanades moodides kinni on
Nende teadlased hiljem treenisid Adolfi teadlasi ka ja tihe side oli Ameeerika eugeenika kogukondadega. Kuigi ameerika omad vaata, et veel pehmemalt asja võtsid, saades aru ,et nad maailma avalik kilp hiljem on, kelle suunas kõige rohkem vaatama hakatakse. Kuigi eks nad ka ammu oma neegrite aretust tegid jms .
Venemaa ise A. Dugini sõnutsi see vabastav jõud saab olema peale seda kui liberalism oma "töö on teinud" kes uue konservatismiga meid kõiki päästab
(http://katehon.com, http://www.4pt.su ). Ameeriklaste enda pool ülistav kokkuvõtetemast: http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/the-dangerous-philosopher-behind-putins-strategy-to-grow-russian-power-at-americas-expense
http://katehon.com/
14 March 2017 12:18
Margus Meigo commented on Harri Kingo's note.
Muidugi juurde tuleks arusaamiseks lisada, et see "kapitalism" on kommunismi tööriist, kahepealise kotka teine kotkas, sest see Orwelli teema oligi, et kus Sul antakse kapitalismi ja kommunismi vahel valida tulemus aga on suures mõttes sama.
Ja kumbki ei hoia enda süsteemi pikalt ei ühe ega teise ismina, vaid lasevadsellel põhja vajuda, et see siis uueks ismiks pöörata (sujuvalt või kolinaga, olenevalt kuidas olukord nõuab).
Irooniline on see, et kui me oskaksime usu asja õigesti kasutada, sh. islamit, siis see oleks reaalne jõud Ainuke, mis selle suure illusiooni pooleks murraks, või piisavalt vähemalt, et valgust paistma hakkaks.
Kuid praegu kasutatakse neid usu asju samamoodi kui viisnurga kotka asju, üksteise vastu ja üksteise poolt (ja siis veel pundis need omavahel vastu kes ei ole usus ja siis need kes on, olgugi, et mõlema pundi grupid veel omavahel saja eri asjaga vastuolus on alates jalgpalli meeskondade tasemest kuni ühiskonna kihtide ja muude uskumisteni kosmosest darvinismini. Küll skisofreenia tekitaja kotkameistrid , juba Rooma ajast oma tarkustega teevad, kuidas uusi lahkhelisi leida, millega perekondade ja kogukondade teket ära hoida, sedasi, et nad kõik nõrgad ja riigi või ideoloogia mis väär nisa otsas oleks, siis neil lihtne nõrgestada likvideerides riigi moraali või ideoloogia või teadustulemuste tausta, et olekski selline teadmatuse ja "Miski pole tõsi" olukord, ning siis lihtne mis iganes õigusi ära võtta ja õigeid veendumis likvideerida, sest nõusolekut on rahvalt kes usub, et tõde ja õigust pole, saada ime lihtne, mille iganes jaoks, ... ja kui veel ei ole siis tekitatakse mingi grupp kes tõstetakse võimsaks ja arvestatavaks ja siis küsitakse neilt seda mille jaoks nad tehti... ja oh üllatuse puudust, nad täpselt nii oma analüüside põhjal vastavad nagu ette määratud... kuid noh, kui tähtis ametikoht nii arvas, siis peab nõus olema, ... rahvas paneb nina maha ja nõustub "Järjekordse paratamatusega".. )
Kuidsellise hulluse vastu saab ainult usuga, sest õnneks üks kirstunael neilon usuvabadus, mis loodud küll hea asja likvideerimiseks, kuid mida veel saab kasutada millise iganes hea asja elushoidmiseks ja arendamiseks, kui vaid targasti usuga ära liita mõistame palkmajad, toidu ja loodus tarkuse ning iidse emajärgluse
Ja kumbki ei hoia enda süsteemi pikalt ei ühe ega teise ismina, vaid lasevadsellel põhja vajuda, et see siis uueks ismiks pöörata (sujuvalt või kolinaga, olenevalt kuidas olukord nõuab).
Irooniline on see, et kui me oskaksime usu asja õigesti kasutada, sh. islamit, siis see oleks reaalne jõud Ainuke, mis selle suure illusiooni pooleks murraks, või piisavalt vähemalt, et valgust paistma hakkaks.
Kuid praegu kasutatakse neid usu asju samamoodi kui viisnurga kotka asju, üksteise vastu ja üksteise poolt (ja siis veel pundis need omavahel vastu kes ei ole usus ja siis need kes on, olgugi, et mõlema pundi grupid veel omavahel saja eri asjaga vastuolus on alates jalgpalli meeskondade tasemest kuni ühiskonna kihtide ja muude uskumisteni kosmosest darvinismini. Küll skisofreenia tekitaja kotkameistrid , juba Rooma ajast oma tarkustega teevad, kuidas uusi lahkhelisi leida, millega perekondade ja kogukondade teket ära hoida, sedasi, et nad kõik nõrgad ja riigi või ideoloogia mis väär nisa otsas oleks, siis neil lihtne nõrgestada likvideerides riigi moraali või ideoloogia või teadustulemuste tausta, et olekski selline teadmatuse ja "Miski pole tõsi" olukord, ning siis lihtne mis iganes õigusi ära võtta ja õigeid veendumis likvideerida, sest nõusolekut on rahvalt kes usub, et tõde ja õigust pole, saada ime lihtne, mille iganes jaoks, ... ja kui veel ei ole siis tekitatakse mingi grupp kes tõstetakse võimsaks ja arvestatavaks ja siis küsitakse neilt seda mille jaoks nad tehti... ja oh üllatuse puudust, nad täpselt nii oma analüüside põhjal vastavad nagu ette määratud... kuid noh, kui tähtis ametikoht nii arvas, siis peab nõus olema, ... rahvas paneb nina maha ja nõustub "Järjekordse paratamatusega".. )
Kuidsellise hulluse vastu saab ainult usuga, sest õnneks üks kirstunael neilon usuvabadus, mis loodud küll hea asja likvideerimiseks, kuid mida veel saab kasutada millise iganes hea asja elushoidmiseks ja arendamiseks, kui vaid targasti usuga ära liita mõistame palkmajad, toidu ja loodus tarkuse ning iidse emajärgluse
14 March 2017 12:07
Margus Meigo commented on Harri Kingo's note.
Täiesti meeldiv hakkas, et ma ei ole oma arusaamadega üksi.
14 March 2017 11:59
Margus Meigo replied to Harri Kingo's comment.
kuid selle asemel, et oma rahvale palk maju ehitada kaitseväelistega (ja õiget põllumajandamist ehk enda elus hoidmist õpetada), et Eestlasi orjusest vabastada, me selle raha eest ostame eri riikide vana tehnikat looduse puruks pommitamiseks, mitte, et meil kunagi isegi kasutada seda kola oleks võimalus, Jumal Tänatud
14 March 2017 11:53
Margus Meigo replied to Harri Kingo's comment.
jah, selleasemel, et võidelda, et nad sama madalat palka soovivad kui mehed, peaksid nad koos meestega võitlema, et mehel 4 korda rohkem palka oleks, et nad siis saaksid olla kodus või kus iganes mujal selle aja ja vaimutarkust ning armastust ja ilu koju külvata, mis omakorda meest inspireeriks sedasi, et läheks hea ja tõsise patriootliku tujuga tööle, kui see peab endiselt veel kodust ja naisest eemal olema, ning hoiaks ka kogu töökeskonna moraali kõrgel selliselt, et omakorda, ei peaks ta masenduses õllekotiga tagasi tulema õhtul, et teleka ees või kuskil rahu saada (mis muidugi arulage tegevus ilmselgelt ,aga kui muid lahendusi ühiskonnas ei õpetata, ja osad iidsed ja asjalikud lausa keelustatud .. et jah... )
... iseseisvus... iseseisvus.. koosolemise asemel.. kus need inimesed kõik isekeskis ise seisavad ja miks ja mille poolt siis... njah..
ja kui just sõja aeg pole siis võiks mehed selle teenistuse asemel palkmaju ehitada, endale vajalik oskus, kultuuri säilimine ja sedasi oleks varsti terve eesti kaetud majadega kuhu saaksid linnast karbistunud inimesed kellel süda veel alles ja mõistus, tagasi kolida ning meie oma maa kaitse alla võtta.. praegu see nii hõre ja ... ja kultuuri väljasuretamiseks ideaalne olukord, sest mis kultuuri sa seal kivimajadevahel elus hoiad, kui peale kella 11 tantsima kaerajaani mingi punt paks lasnamäe majade vahel hakkama siis tuleks politsei ja ajaks asja laiali, lihtsalt üks lihtne näide...
ja ega oma naisegagi õigeid mõnusi ja elu saa elada, paar meetrit igas suunas juba sinu abielu voodist elavad täiesti võõrad inimesed, ... kas see siis on midagi muud kui äärmiselt perverstne, .. vot jah..
ja siis kalli raha eest ostetud karp õhku, mida suur osa eesti maksab välismaale.. ja siis ei ole isegi maad ja maja mida lastele pärandada... nii utoopilist olukorda mida praegu hoitakse ja avalikult maha ei tehta, KUI VEEL saadakse, (võim varsti uuesti nii üle võtab, et neid asju enam ei lubata rääkida, sest rahvuslikus on juba ametliku keelustamise peal , viisnurga kolmanda käe, EU läbi.. kellel neid viisnurki kohe ohtrasti nõiaringis enda pääll..)
... iseseisvus... iseseisvus.. koosolemise asemel.. kus need inimesed kõik isekeskis ise seisavad ja miks ja mille poolt siis... njah..
ja kui just sõja aeg pole siis võiks mehed selle teenistuse asemel palkmaju ehitada, endale vajalik oskus, kultuuri säilimine ja sedasi oleks varsti terve eesti kaetud majadega kuhu saaksid linnast karbistunud inimesed kellel süda veel alles ja mõistus, tagasi kolida ning meie oma maa kaitse alla võtta.. praegu see nii hõre ja ... ja kultuuri väljasuretamiseks ideaalne olukord, sest mis kultuuri sa seal kivimajadevahel elus hoiad, kui peale kella 11 tantsima kaerajaani mingi punt paks lasnamäe majade vahel hakkama siis tuleks politsei ja ajaks asja laiali, lihtsalt üks lihtne näide...
ja ega oma naisegagi õigeid mõnusi ja elu saa elada, paar meetrit igas suunas juba sinu abielu voodist elavad täiesti võõrad inimesed, ... kas see siis on midagi muud kui äärmiselt perverstne, .. vot jah..
ja siis kalli raha eest ostetud karp õhku, mida suur osa eesti maksab välismaale.. ja siis ei ole isegi maad ja maja mida lastele pärandada... nii utoopilist olukorda mida praegu hoitakse ja avalikult maha ei tehta, KUI VEEL saadakse, (võim varsti uuesti nii üle võtab, et neid asju enam ei lubata rääkida, sest rahvuslikus on juba ametliku keelustamise peal , viisnurga kolmanda käe, EU läbi.. kellel neid viisnurki kohe ohtrasti nõiaringis enda pääll..)
14 March 2017 11:52
Margus Meigo replied to Harri Kingo's comment.
JA kahepealine kotkas, teab väga hästi kuidas seda skisofreeniat hoida, ega George Orwell siisei kirjutanud mingit uptoopia tuleviku teoreetilist musta tsenaariumi, vaid dokumenteeris nii lihtsalt kui võimalikult seda keerukat mitmekihilist illusioonide süsteemi mille kaudu meid hoitakse üksteise vastas jaüksteise kontrolli all, eelkõige aga alati vastaspooled, kuni suurte vastaspoolteni väljas keda alati vaja hoida, kes tegelikult aga üks ja sama viisnurk
//(enamasti USA ja Vene viisnurk, vene vanem ja targem vend, usa noorem ja jõukam muskel kellel siis vanem eesrinnas olla laseb kuid samas ohjas hoida proovib oma konksude sinna sisse monteerimisega, alates haridussüsteemist),
selleks ,et kõiki väikseid nende vahele jäävaid "muuseas" katki muljuda lisaks muudele sajale projektidele inimkatsete ja psüholoogia osas mida need olukorrad võimaldavad.,
isegi lipuvärvid on neil samad. Ning enamus ideaalid ja tegevused ka, ei ole neil ei loodus esirinnas reaalseriikliku tunnetusena, ei reaalsed naiste väärtused ega naiste väärtustamine, ei jumalik vaimsus ega iseseisvad perekonnad, ... ikka sedasi, et ollakse riigi nisa otsas ja kui muud moodi ei saa, siis pensioni ja muude toetustega ikka saab ja patriootlike või vastu patriootlike erineva vanuste klubide ja uskumustega, ... jaainuüksi ühest klubist lahkumisegajuba oled kohe uues klubis ja sihtgrupis.
Ja kõige meeldivam neile see, et inimesed enamuse suure töö, iseenda vangistamiseks, vajalike uuringute tegemiseks ja juttude rääkimiseks, selle teevad inimesed lausa ise ära, pool võistluse vormis ja osad maksavad veel ise peale ka
//(enamasti USA ja Vene viisnurk, vene vanem ja targem vend, usa noorem ja jõukam muskel kellel siis vanem eesrinnas olla laseb kuid samas ohjas hoida proovib oma konksude sinna sisse monteerimisega, alates haridussüsteemist),
selleks ,et kõiki väikseid nende vahele jäävaid "muuseas" katki muljuda lisaks muudele sajale projektidele inimkatsete ja psüholoogia osas mida need olukorrad võimaldavad.,
isegi lipuvärvid on neil samad. Ning enamus ideaalid ja tegevused ka, ei ole neil ei loodus esirinnas reaalseriikliku tunnetusena, ei reaalsed naiste väärtused ega naiste väärtustamine, ei jumalik vaimsus ega iseseisvad perekonnad, ... ikka sedasi, et ollakse riigi nisa otsas ja kui muud moodi ei saa, siis pensioni ja muude toetustega ikka saab ja patriootlike või vastu patriootlike erineva vanuste klubide ja uskumustega, ... jaainuüksi ühest klubist lahkumisegajuba oled kohe uues klubis ja sihtgrupis.
Ja kõige meeldivam neile see, et inimesed enamuse suure töö, iseenda vangistamiseks, vajalike uuringute tegemiseks ja juttude rääkimiseks, selle teevad inimesed lausa ise ära, pool võistluse vormis ja osad maksavad veel ise peale ka
14 March 2017 11:42
Margus Meigo replied to Harri Kingo's comment.
just see teema
14 March 2017 11:34
Margus Meigo replied to Harri Kingo's comment.
neile on sedasi mugavam orjakarjaga tegeleda, eriti kui inimesed ise endaleneed päitsed on pähe võidelnud
14 March 2017 11:33
Margus Meigo replied to Harri Kingo's comment.
kommunismi värk noh
14 March 2017 11:33
Margus Meigo replied to Jüri Eintalu's comment.
ühesõnaga naise vastane asi, tahetakse naise õigused samamadalale tasemele viia kui mehe õigused ja meestel teatvasti õigusi siin kommunismijärgses kommunismi uues versioonis ei olegi eriti, õigused on firmadel, asutustel jms.
Miks naised sellist jura nii edukalt kaasa mängivad, et soovivad oma õigusi kinnistada igaveseks ühele samale orja tasemele, et siis ei oleks mehel kuskile pürgida ega naistel võimalust ühiskonnas muudatusi teha.. vot see on arusaamatu
varsti on kõik nii võrdne, et naised peavad püsti kusema ka hakkama, riideid juba kannavad kontori omasi ja meigivad ennast teiste meeste jaoks iga päev pea rutiinselt juba, muidu tööle ei julgeta minnagi
Miks naised sellist jura nii edukalt kaasa mängivad, et soovivad oma õigusi kinnistada igaveseks ühele samale orja tasemele, et siis ei oleks mehel kuskile pürgida ega naistel võimalust ühiskonnas muudatusi teha.. vot see on arusaamatu
varsti on kõik nii võrdne, et naised peavad püsti kusema ka hakkama, riideid juba kannavad kontori omasi ja meigivad ennast teiste meeste jaoks iga päev pea rutiinselt juba, muidu tööle ei julgeta minnagi
14 March 2017 11:32
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
tegelikult karm, kurb neil kel on
14 March 2017 09:53
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
:D
14 March 2017 09:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i has this video on my HD long before Youtube was made
13 March 2017 23:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Maddox Rules blessed
when people find out that Alex kind of people work for communist agendawith Donald J. Trump and that Hillary lost as liberals was against Her (as true liberals work for commies and capitalists are commies workers, tools, weapons, ... and as zirinowsky told they choose their own president.... and if after appointed state segretary from oil company, one of the best personal friends from russia elite, in usa... if after that people also not understand .. what is going on.. then they have no need to complain and worry about what is going on.. if so clearthings still seems like "conspirasy theory" or something ... it is ultimatelly patriarchy vs matrarcy... tecnology vs nature... ungodlines vs godliness ...)
https://youtu.be/YbKuYPVQuOk?t=211
when people find out that Alex kind of people work for communist agendawith Donald J. Trump and that Hillary lost as liberals was against Her (as true liberals work for commies and capitalists are commies workers, tools, weapons, ... and as zirinowsky told they choose their own president.... and if after appointed state segretary from oil company, one of the best personal friends from russia elite, in usa... if after that people also not understand .. what is going on.. then they have no need to complain and worry about what is going on.. if so clearthings still seems like "conspirasy theory" or something ... it is ultimatelly patriarchy vs matrarcy... tecnology vs nature... ungodlines vs godliness ...)
https://youtu.be/YbKuYPVQuOk?t=211
https://youtu.be/YbKuYPVQuOk?t=211
13 March 2017 23:27
Margus Meigo commented on Hädaabi president Kersti Kaljulaid ASTU Tagasi's link.
ta ütles ära mitte ususle, vaid vabamüürlaste liberaalide kiriku ... mis nad olitki .. need Lutherlased (juudi vihkajad) salajasele rituaal programmile
13 March 2017 23:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aaargh this audi feed does not play on my, does it have yt link ?
13 March 2017 21:37
Margus Meigo commented on Maddox Rules's photo.
when did he get hes mind back ..
13 March 2017 21:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi saate teine pool asja parandab,
polegi nii paha, kuid jah..
(ahja.. avastasin kommentaari lopuks, et see polnud teine pool vaid hoopis teine iterview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioNhQefKqUI )
kuigi enamuse selle saab positiivseks pöörata, kuid teades eri teadvusi, noorte eri teadvusi ja ees olevaid piiravaid erivanemaid teadvusi ja paralleeele,
siis see tarkuse osa sellest välja ei tule nii hästi, just osalt ka suuresti selle hääle osas kes saadet loeb, (beebi saatest).. hoopis teise tooniga peaks tegelema.
Senikaua kui seda saab vaadata illluminaatliku pätivaimust noorte väljaksvatamisena (mida ta tegelikult on plaanitud ja on, vaimses mõttes)
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kuid jaha, seni kuni hängida ringi sellistega, .. mis see liberaali nimi oligi kes saatanimi avalikult promob oma sõbraga noortele... mingi haige raamatu kirjutas.. "sõnavabaduse testiks" (tegelikult aga lood ka tumedamad..) ... et nende soovitused ja vaimsus mis kaasas on.. seda vaja jah... jah.. vaja vaimset vennaskonda koes noodel signaalidel silma igas suunas peal hoiaks ja regulatsioone saadaks, kus selliseid kuldseid hingi nii hea potensiaaliga, nagu Andrus Elbing'i Ümbritsevat keskonda just aitaks korrale kutsuda, tema ise heana sujub nagunii heapoole, kui väärtusi inimeste ümber õitsema panna..
see millest nad minut 11 ajal räägivad (eelmises videos), siis see on see liberaalide nael hauale, mida nad onasid kaasanaerdes ja kiites, kitsi olles vajaliku kriitikaga, ... kui sõbrad olid... siis kritiseerid ja aitad.. mitte aga ei ignoreeri halba..ja lahe oli siis..., kui nad oleks pidanud .. olema karmilt kritseerivad pealuu särkide ja alkoholi osas, suitsuni välja.. ja kus valede asjade kallal räpiti oleks pidanud suunama.. veel rohkem andma aru, kui suur vastutus kümnete tuhandete noorte osas, sellistel on kellele antud õnnistus olla sellise keele ja teo tehnoloogiaga.. ning meedia ja riigi toega, tegelikult.
.. vaimu tunnetusega siin selgelt näha riigi sinise positiivsete tarkade poolte soovi ja vaimu soovi luua suhteid noorte taibukamate headematega ja nende gruppidega ülejäänusi välja püüda räbalatest ja positiivsusema suunas suunata... vb mitte alati nii palju ja katekooriliselt kui PõhjaTallinn, et nad lausa ivolinnaga laulma hakkavad ja Krikus lastega, kuid jah, vähemalt selge konservatiivsuse suunas
polegi nii paha, kuid jah..
(ahja.. avastasin kommentaari lopuks, et see polnud teine pool vaid hoopis teine iterview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioNhQefKqUI )
kuigi enamuse selle saab positiivseks pöörata, kuid teades eri teadvusi, noorte eri teadvusi ja ees olevaid piiravaid erivanemaid teadvusi ja paralleeele,
siis see tarkuse osa sellest välja ei tule nii hästi, just osalt ka suuresti selle hääle osas kes saadet loeb, (beebi saatest).. hoopis teise tooniga peaks tegelema.
Senikaua kui seda saab vaadata illluminaatliku pätivaimust noorte väljaksvatamisena (mida ta tegelikult on plaanitud ja on, vaimses mõttes)
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kuid jaha, seni kuni hängida ringi sellistega, .. mis see liberaali nimi oligi kes saatanimi avalikult promob oma sõbraga noortele... mingi haige raamatu kirjutas.. "sõnavabaduse testiks" (tegelikult aga lood ka tumedamad..) ... et nende soovitused ja vaimsus mis kaasas on.. seda vaja jah... jah.. vaja vaimset vennaskonda koes noodel signaalidel silma igas suunas peal hoiaks ja regulatsioone saadaks, kus selliseid kuldseid hingi nii hea potensiaaliga, nagu Andrus Elbing'i Ümbritsevat keskonda just aitaks korrale kutsuda, tema ise heana sujub nagunii heapoole, kui väärtusi inimeste ümber õitsema panna..
see millest nad minut 11 ajal räägivad (eelmises videos), siis see on see liberaalide nael hauale, mida nad onasid kaasanaerdes ja kiites, kitsi olles vajaliku kriitikaga, ... kui sõbrad olid... siis kritiseerid ja aitad.. mitte aga ei ignoreeri halba..ja lahe oli siis..., kui nad oleks pidanud .. olema karmilt kritseerivad pealuu särkide ja alkoholi osas, suitsuni välja.. ja kus valede asjade kallal räpiti oleks pidanud suunama.. veel rohkem andma aru, kui suur vastutus kümnete tuhandete noorte osas, sellistel on kellele antud õnnistus olla sellise keele ja teo tehnoloogiaga.. ning meedia ja riigi toega, tegelikult.
.. vaimu tunnetusega siin selgelt näha riigi sinise positiivsete tarkade poolte soovi ja vaimu soovi luua suhteid noorte taibukamate headematega ja nende gruppidega ülejäänusi välja püüda räbalatest ja positiivsusema suunas suunata... vb mitte alati nii palju ja katekooriliselt kui PõhjaTallinn, et nad lausa ivolinnaga laulma hakkavad ja Krikus lastega, kuid jah, vähemalt selge konservatiivsuse suunas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioNhQefKqUI
13 March 2017 21:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vale heelega saatejuht ka, st see kes peale loeb mitte juht
13 March 2017 20:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kusjuures veiderkokkusattumus jah, et see tatoo jaselline nali tuli ülesse ja siis järgmine video oligi tatoodest ja eelmine lugu
13 March 2017 20:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
5 laiki ja 321 views esimese naise teema...
/ beebi ja vanglate elustiili promomise teema: 21 460 ja 152 laiki
nu eks lugu noorem ka veel kuid.. ju ta umbe nii jääb, va piradose teema mis arvatvasti ikka tõuseb..
Kuisellist potensiaaliga asja juba teha, miks mitte kasutada võimalust ja samasse saatesse paar sügavamat tarkust lisada, kardetakse v?
/ beebi ja vanglate elustiili promomise teema: 21 460 ja 152 laiki
nu eks lugu noorem ka veel kuid.. ju ta umbe nii jääb, va piradose teema mis arvatvasti ikka tõuseb..
Kuisellist potensiaaliga asja juba teha, miks mitte kasutada võimalust ja samasse saatesse paar sügavamat tarkust lisada, kardetakse v?
13 March 2017 20:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
saade ise muidu ka.. järgmiseks... käsitlevad seda .. seda teemat ainult pehme küljepealt ilma karmilt , seda vanema eeskuju andmata, kasvõi Vooglaiul paar küsimust neile noortele lasta esitada
.. ja et kui lahja tegevus tatoo teema on, vaimselt kui kasulik see mehele pikas perspektiivis olla saab ja neile naistele kes neid kanaldatud vaime kogu elu pesema ja siluma peavad, mis nende tegevustega kaasneb?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lgtfdP0kbc
.. ja et kui lahja tegevus tatoo teema on, vaimselt kui kasulik see mehele pikas perspektiivis olla saab ja neile naistele kes neid kanaldatud vaime kogu elu pesema ja siluma peavad, mis nende tegevustega kaasneb?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lgtfdP0kbc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lgtfdP0kbc
13 March 2017 20:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või vähemalt nagu paar sõnagi öelda, ise, armastust üles näidata paarina vms..
kuid naine ilmselgelt tubli ja sõnu polegi piisavalt, et nagu emalõvi, kohe asja käsile!
Alustuseks hea, kuid eks saaks veel, veel rohkem
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Muidugi eks sellise mölameistrile otse ise eetri helistada ka ei aitaks vist, kogu asi pööratakse teatriks suht kerge vaevaga eriti kui tunnete ja õigustundega endal lukku läheb
kuid naine ilmselgelt tubli ja sõnu polegi piisavalt, et nagu emalõvi, kohe asja käsile!
Alustuseks hea, kuid eks saaks veel, veel rohkem
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Muidugi eks sellise mölameistrile otse ise eetri helistada ka ei aitaks vist, kogu asi pööratakse teatriks suht kerge vaevaga eriti kui tunnete ja õigustundega endal lukku läheb
13 March 2017 20:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Poleks arvanutki, et Ossinovski poole poolt kunagi sõna peaksin võtma,
Kuid ikkagi, nagu mees oleks võinud mehelikult ise ka sõna võtta ja siis minna ja see kümpi sõitmine selgeks teha,
palk peaks olema, saaks kellegi teise ka saata, erainterviule
... miks selgete eksimuste vastu nii pehmeks mindud on, et inimesi ei soovita üldse parandada.. kuidas siis saabki midagi paremaks saada
Kuid ikkagi, nagu mees oleks võinud mehelikult ise ka sõna võtta ja siis minna ja see kümpi sõitmine selgeks teha,
palk peaks olema, saaks kellegi teise ka saata, erainterviule
... miks selgete eksimuste vastu nii pehmeks mindud on, et inimesi ei soovita üldse parandada.. kuidas siis saabki midagi paremaks saada
13 March 2017 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Meedia... see meedia meil siin selline
(nali seoses kivisaare pundiga, googledasin ta nime ja see tuli ausalt esimesena esile millegi pärast)
et meedia kus sellised naljad oma lehele on otse lingitavalt lubatud.. et mida siin .. rääkida
http://igav.delfi.ee/anekdoodid/homo-laheb-tatoveerija-juurde?id=67876477
(nali seoses kivisaare pundiga, googledasin ta nime ja see tuli ausalt esimesena esile millegi pärast)
et meedia kus sellised naljad oma lehele on otse lingitavalt lubatud.. et mida siin .. rääkida
http://igav.delfi.ee/anekdoodid/homo-laheb-tatoveerija-juurde?id=67876477
http://igav.delfi.ee/anekdoodid/homo-laheb-tatoveerija-juurde?id=67876477
13 March 2017 20:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mõtle kui sipelgas oleks.. ja siis sääl turniks... ja need maad mida avastada.. vau..
seda maad mida avastada ..
shorten: goo.gl/SKdki8
seda maad mida avastada ..
shorten: goo.gl/SKdki8
13 March 2017 19:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid jah...
Vaatamata tätte oma vigadele ikka ilusaid armastuse hetki ta selgelt sõnasse saanud õigesti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIr2lk0L2kk
Vaatamata tätte oma vigadele ikka ilusaid armastuse hetki ta selgelt sõnasse saanud õigesti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIr2lk0L2kk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIr2lk0L2kk
13 March 2017 19:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jasee omakorda tuletab meelde,
et pidin node vahvate inimestega ju hängima...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqrAdNS_zJ0
et pidin node vahvate inimestega ju hängima...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqrAdNS_zJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqrAdNS_zJ0
13 March 2017 19:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Ja siis iseenesest muidugi see laul samal ajal kui faile tõstsin ..
ja mis moodi nüüd see laul node laulude keskele sedasi tuli..
eriti kuna pole ammu kuulanud...
oeh.. teadusinimestel lihtsalt igav elada,sest kõik on elementaarne kokkusattumine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRq95qFeAi8
ja mis moodi nüüd see laul node laulude keskele sedasi tuli..
eriti kuna pole ammu kuulanud...
oeh.. teadusinimestel lihtsalt igav elada,sest kõik on elementaarne kokkusattumine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRq95qFeAi8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRq95qFeAi8
13 March 2017 19:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Kiva
13 March 2017 19:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nh, keegi ei oska öelda siis või, aga nõustud ?
13 March 2017 19:11
Margus Meigo commented on Harri Kingo's post.
kui ma õigesti aru saan, siis Eestis on veel olemas naisi austavad koole kes nõudsid, et tüdrukud seelikus käiksid või mis see lugu on, ma pole isegi märganud veel kuskilt
13 March 2017 16:07
Margus Meigo commented on Bianca Kõivumägi's post.
eks neid reise teadmatusesse saab teha ka mitte väga kaugele minnes
13 March 2017 12:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ei nu tegelt see kartul mille veel hommikul ahjukartulitena hooga peale ahmis omale ikka asjaette ei läinud, tuli juba välja.
Kuid vähemalt sain teada, et ussirohi toimis ja enam usse eip ole tal.
Kuid köha ja nohu on ikka veel..
peab kuidagi ikka kassi aitamiseks omaelu suts parandama... miskit välja mõtlema
lisaks mõtetele mida juba sadu, ammu, kuid mis praeguses reaalsuses ei toimi homseks, nö
Kuid vähemalt sain teada, et ussirohi toimis ja enam usse eip ole tal.
Kuid köha ja nohu on ikka veel..
peab kuidagi ikka kassi aitamiseks omaelu suts parandama... miskit välja mõtlema
lisaks mõtetele mida juba sadu, ammu, kuid mis praeguses reaalsuses ei toimi homseks, nö
12 March 2017 08:50
Margus Meigo replied to Sass Vask's comment.
proovin, iga päev natuke
12 March 2017 08:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
anyway, on search on North Korea beards, soon i ended up on this hippy blog
http://www.journeyeverywhere.com/safely-returned-trip-north-korea/
But still searching a N Korea beard as many others:
(from https://www.reddit.com/r/NorthKoreaPics/ )
And why it seems suspicious, is that Kim harisyle is not even on list:
http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/25/these-are-north-koreas-28-state-approved-hairstyles/
http://www.complex.com/style/2013/02/north-korea-only-allows-10-approved-hair-styles-for-men
conflicting reports:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3335329/Kim-Jong-orders-North-Korean-men-copy-ambitious-hair-limit-locks-maximum-2cm-length.html
So but this is actual practical post:
https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-South-Korean-men-opt-to-grow-facial-hair
" break from the customs of Joseon Dynasty.
In 1895, there was a series of reforms called Eulmi Reforms (을미개혁; 乙未改革) which was was an effort by Japanese to bring modernizing reforms to Korea soon after an assassin Okamoto Ryosuke had murdered Empress Myeongseong (명성황후; 明成皇后), who was in favor of working with Russians rather than Japanese. Along with the use of the Western calendar, vaccinations, establishment of public education, and other reforms, there was a policy of trimming hair and wearing western clothes (aka 斷髮令: it explicitly stated the removal of topknot and horse-hair hats). For the first time in many centuries of Korean history, men started to cut beard and mustache as well. "
"In summary, there has been an underlying assumption that a clean look is associated with modernization, or westernization, for over a century now. And even today, many older Koreans are immediately reminded of Japanese policemen when they see someone with a mustache and may even comment on it. When I started growing mine, my wife actually commented, "일본순사같다 (You look like a Japanese policeman." Time to time, some actors get flak for appealing to Japanese sensibilities with a mustache. This has become a part of the Korean psyche, although it is slowly changing with more celebrities growing their hair and facial hair, and with much freer cultural exchanges with Japan."
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Then this conspiracy..
https://twitter.com/bigbeardfacts/status/664020959591051264
Love this blog:
http://blogs.koreanclass101.com/blog/2009/10/13/beards-and-why-they-make-you-look-dirty-korean-men-and-facial-hair/
http://www.journeyeverywhere.com/safely-returned-trip-north-korea/
But still searching a N Korea beard as many others:
(from https://www.reddit.com/r/NorthKoreaPics/ )
And why it seems suspicious, is that Kim harisyle is not even on list:
http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/25/these-are-north-koreas-28-state-approved-hairstyles/
http://www.complex.com/style/2013/02/north-korea-only-allows-10-approved-hair-styles-for-men
conflicting reports:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3335329/Kim-Jong-orders-North-Korean-men-copy-ambitious-hair-limit-locks-maximum-2cm-length.html
So but this is actual practical post:
https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-South-Korean-men-opt-to-grow-facial-hair
" break from the customs of Joseon Dynasty.
In 1895, there was a series of reforms called Eulmi Reforms (을미개혁; 乙未改革) which was was an effort by Japanese to bring modernizing reforms to Korea soon after an assassin Okamoto Ryosuke had murdered Empress Myeongseong (명성황후; 明成皇后), who was in favor of working with Russians rather than Japanese. Along with the use of the Western calendar, vaccinations, establishment of public education, and other reforms, there was a policy of trimming hair and wearing western clothes (aka 斷髮令: it explicitly stated the removal of topknot and horse-hair hats). For the first time in many centuries of Korean history, men started to cut beard and mustache as well. "
"In summary, there has been an underlying assumption that a clean look is associated with modernization, or westernization, for over a century now. And even today, many older Koreans are immediately reminded of Japanese policemen when they see someone with a mustache and may even comment on it. When I started growing mine, my wife actually commented, "일본순사같다 (You look like a Japanese policeman." Time to time, some actors get flak for appealing to Japanese sensibilities with a mustache. This has become a part of the Korean psyche, although it is slowly changing with more celebrities growing their hair and facial hair, and with much freer cultural exchanges with Japan."
---
Then this conspiracy..
https://twitter.com/bigbeardfacts/status/664020959591051264
Love this blog:
http://blogs.koreanclass101.com/blog/2009/10/13/beards-and-why-they-make-you-look-dirty-korean-men-and-facial-hair/
12 March 2017 05:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The North Korea Ryugyong Hotel from stile of Brutallity (when there was go glass jet) to style of Modern archidecure.. well, in there, as the finish project i guess we can say beautiful, in buildings of that height, how else can You do it with current dinance and knowings (yes, you can still make a country style house with many inside one, in hundreds of meters, but main problem will remin the stucture inside and how well it last past fewhundred years, 500 .. as they not builing on roman semente anymore that lasts for millenniums.)
well what i know
Modern architecture it is for now, and does not look as bad as it is made to sound
i mean if u have planned just ugly gray boxes then this between it, is reasonable,
but i just hope they made it fit a bit on the original pyramid energyfield... or did they..
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8634/15991545481_7c991a8f80_k.jpg
https://uk.pinterest.com/klafontaine95/the-ryugyong/
330.02 metres, 105 floors
" Construction of the Ryugyong Hotel was intended to be completed in time for the 13th World Festival of Youth and Students in June 1989; had this been achieved, it would have held the title of world's tallest hotel. The unfinished building was not surpassed in height by any new hotel until the 2009 completion of the spire atop the Rose Tower in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. "
"The structure was originally intended to house five revolving restaurants, and either 3,000 or 7,665 guest rooms, according to different sources" (yea try to gett 3 sixes arent u...)
rchitect Baikdoosan Architects & Engineers[
Developer Orascom Group
Main contractor Baikdoosan Architects & Engineers (1987–1992)
Orascom Construction Industries (2008–present
well what i know
Modern architecture it is for now, and does not look as bad as it is made to sound
i mean if u have planned just ugly gray boxes then this between it, is reasonable,
but i just hope they made it fit a bit on the original pyramid energyfield... or did they..
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8634/15991545481_7c991a8f80_k.jpg
https://uk.pinterest.com/klafontaine95/the-ryugyong/
330.02 metres, 105 floors
" Construction of the Ryugyong Hotel was intended to be completed in time for the 13th World Festival of Youth and Students in June 1989; had this been achieved, it would have held the title of world's tallest hotel. The unfinished building was not surpassed in height by any new hotel until the 2009 completion of the spire atop the Rose Tower in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. "
"The structure was originally intended to house five revolving restaurants, and either 3,000 or 7,665 guest rooms, according to different sources" (yea try to gett 3 sixes arent u...)
rchitect Baikdoosan Architects & Engineers[
Developer Orascom Group
Main contractor Baikdoosan Architects & Engineers (1987–1992)
Orascom Construction Industries (2008–present
12 March 2017 04:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
First it was a ironic slap to lgbd garden at first but more then that against our "democrazy" ... this gender thing, as there is 2 genders,
and most likelly they will not force man down so women can shine, ..then they limit a women, so... instead this "nothing telling language" ("based on gender") one should reword it "society that works against women" or
"sosciety that has turned full on homo and culturally ejacuates man benafits ower women" ... or'''''' "presecutions against women"
simply would do it, not "based on gender"
women is not a gender but a species, my school would say top of it, if we keep going like that, one day she will show, but then there will be no go for "sorry we did not know", then it will be no more
and most likelly they will not force man down so women can shine, ..then they limit a women, so... instead this "nothing telling language" ("based on gender") one should reword it "society that works against women" or
"sosciety that has turned full on homo and culturally ejacuates man benafits ower women" ... or'''''' "presecutions against women"
simply would do it, not "based on gender"
women is not a gender but a species, my school would say top of it, if we keep going like that, one day she will show, but then there will be no go for "sorry we did not know", then it will be no more
12 March 2017 04:19
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
eks nad meile vihjeid jagavad jah
"eat food not us"
"eat food not us"
11 March 2017 18:29
Margus Meigo replied to Atma Kaljo's comment.
asuu.
Tundub et vist pea kõike siis, aint kassitoitu söövad hädapärast kui muud tõesti enam pole (vahest siis ka mitte)
kuid yeah, eks vaheldust peab olema
Tundub et vist pea kõike siis, aint kassitoitu söövad hädapärast kui muud tõesti enam pole (vahest siis ka mitte)
kuid yeah, eks vaheldust peab olema
11 March 2017 18:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so here it is, conservative, basic, simple, normal clothes, the final take.
Why in a world would anyone cnage that to a tie ??? and suit.. just is be on me... wonder when humans evolve again in to normallaty.. i guess assoon as we all help and worry about it.. bit by bit.. as long there is still what to worry about
Why in a world would anyone cnage that to a tie ??? and suit.. just is be on me... wonder when humans evolve again in to normallaty.. i guess assoon as we all help and worry about it.. bit by bit.. as long there is still what to worry about
11 March 2017 18:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 March 2017 18:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 March 2017 18:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
anyway, back to normallity, so
(okey these ones are a bit made up, but still, works well, just man have to kind of maybe agree on more similar clothingson one event, unless some are totally about different topic with them, shaman or something, or buttler, then it will be old to iranians what are dress codes.. and is more easy forthem also.. as all the ties look so same.. and spiritless.. but normal, real clothing wil bring life... islam basic ropes and seets even look any time bettert then suits, thisis for sure)
(okey these ones are a bit made up, but still, works well, just man have to kind of maybe agree on more similar clothingson one event, unless some are totally about different topic with them, shaman or something, or buttler, then it will be old to iranians what are dress codes.. and is more easy forthem also.. as all the ties look so same.. and spiritless.. but normal, real clothing wil bring life... islam basic ropes and seets even look any time bettert then suits, thisis for sure)
11 March 2017 18:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
seriouslly almoust can get over the twilight zone look (well not really but..) butthe scarw, what i a f, you need to just tie some stuff around you for what, when it is not even nice nor traditional?
Is it for offering some hijab for a womens?
Well.. that would make sense.. showing to iran,this is our yourh.. man so conserned.. they wear a scarf so when women needs it...
u know , feminist society, they have to do it..
thiswill get some old Quaraan beards thining.. Well.. they weird but i think they got a poptential.. lets help them to eliminate these robbersand hooligans there destoring this fragile culture.. these bastards offer no scarfs anyway (the immigants who have taken ower some arias of country so police is afriadto go there... lets send some proper NAJA..or if that is not enought the Artesh, Sepāh and show some law and order to punks..)..
transportation to some 5000 NAJA kind of people with wacation to Hawaii or something will be small investement to get them cleaned up, not that they have anythingto do with iran, but they can help, as a Islamic state, to deal with their relgios kinds...
well actually something similar should be looked .. some similar solution,.. for sure there can be some islamic law about it.. that can be cooperated about... just have to look in to all the laws.. as strong cristians we should easily go to places where people say they all about christ and bibile and then pissing on streets, ... we should get old testamended out them fast, if we proper , for free, so they not shaming our relgion
and relations,
Is it for offering some hijab for a womens?
Well.. that would make sense.. showing to iran,this is our yourh.. man so conserned.. they wear a scarf so when women needs it...
u know , feminist society, they have to do it..
thiswill get some old Quaraan beards thining.. Well.. they weird but i think they got a poptential.. lets help them to eliminate these robbersand hooligans there destoring this fragile culture.. these bastards offer no scarfs anyway (the immigants who have taken ower some arias of country so police is afriadto go there... lets send some proper NAJA..or if that is not enought the Artesh, Sepāh and show some law and order to punks..)..
transportation to some 5000 NAJA kind of people with wacation to Hawaii or something will be small investement to get them cleaned up, not that they have anythingto do with iran, but they can help, as a Islamic state, to deal with their relgios kinds...
well actually something similar should be looked .. some similar solution,.. for sure there can be some islamic law about it.. that can be cooperated about... just have to look in to all the laws.. as strong cristians we should easily go to places where people say they all about christ and bibile and then pissing on streets, ... we should get old testamended out them fast, if we proper , for free, so they not shaming our relgion
and relations,
11 March 2017 18:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 March 2017 18:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 March 2017 18:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 March 2017 18:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 March 2017 18:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this will get the sanctions and things mooved in so many directions when the womens like that are even just sitting there,
asu know, in our, matriarcial world, womens so boss, they not even need to talk, this work is for man
women do not talk any kind of stranger state head from another culture,strange man, who do they think they are?
asu know, in our, matriarcial world, womens so boss, they not even need to talk, this work is for man
women do not talk any kind of stranger state head from another culture,strange man, who do they think they are?
11 March 2017 18:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 March 2017 18:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 March 2017 18:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 March 2017 18:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey these drowsers, pants are kind of funky, maybethese keep for party nights , after all, it is muslim country,we got a have options here also, can not have these funky ones as only option, we have winter also
i bet these shoes also suck, looks like amsterdam wooden fake shoues, but i guess they not
but generally looks high up, when someone steps in to room like that, you kind of wannastand up
i bet these shoes also suck, looks like amsterdam wooden fake shoues, but i guess they not
but generally looks high up, when someone steps in to room like that, you kind of wannastand up
11 March 2017 18:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 March 2017 18:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 March 2017 17:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 March 2017 17:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 March 2017 17:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 March 2017 17:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11 March 2017 17:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i mean this picture just looks so funny and sad from iran point of view, depending if relgious or ordinary youth is loooking it who will just laught about our wester "freedom" and where it got us.
We can wear ANYTHING and.. we want to teach them "to progress... " and we wear THIS ???
We can wear ANYTHING and.. we want to teach them "to progress... " and we wear THIS ???
11 March 2017 17:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Just cant stand these terrible ugly unapropriet "western clothes" .. all the womens have un Queeni clothings, .. not know how to make a statement.. by going there as Princesses and Queens (+Russian ortodoc "hijab".or i think every normal country had it in country side..or in winter... but but...
)..they go as office workers. And this dude... .. man.. this man ... women by them self even would wear it out.. but this man next to them.. what i a world does we hear, .. just would make me cry if i would be able to cry about it..
look @ hes pant's... man don't ya have any linen in sweden.. and tie.. for god shake.. why would You mock yourself and go as a slave puppy in there... wear some national cothing, something appropriate.. not this office carbage
)..they go as office workers. And this dude... .. man.. this man ... women by them self even would wear it out.. but this man next to them.. what i a world does we hear, .. just would make me cry if i would be able to cry about it..
look @ hes pant's... man don't ya have any linen in sweden.. and tie.. for god shake.. why would You mock yourself and go as a slave puppy in there... wear some national cothing, something appropriate.. not this office carbage
11 March 2017 17:30
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
laps räägib: ema ema , keegi luuras aknataga, mis arvad kas päkapikk?
ema: "oi... niiarmas! Pese hambad ära ja magama nüüd! "
ema: "oi... niiarmas! Pese hambad ära ja magama nüüd! "
11 March 2017 17:18
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
eks see päkapikude asi üks KGB skeem ole
11 March 2017 17:17
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Nu loodame, et sel koeral siiis kõhutuuled allatuult on
Muidu jah, vihje, selle eelmise asja osas.. kus sääl räägiti, et lõvid hakkavad õlgi sööma ja..
( tema ka meid lähemale sinna viia proovis: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater )
Muidu jah, vihje, selle eelmise asja osas.. kus sääl räägiti, et lõvid hakkavad õlgi sööma ja..
( tema ka meid lähemale sinna viia proovis: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater )
11 March 2017 17:16
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Ei nu Sa Pühakirja mees, peaksid teadma küll mis see tähendab.. nad harjutavad...
11 March 2017 17:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
There is only 2 genders, how can You persecute based on gender?
" The Commission of Inquiry cited grave crimes committed by Kim Jong-un’s regime, including:
Extermination
Murder
Enslavement
Torture
Imprisonment
Rape
Forced abortions
Sexual violence
Persecution on political, religious, racial and gender grounds
Enforced disappearances
Starvation "
----
Not that anything else would strike as note worthy,
Enforced disappearances also sonds interesting, what is that,,
i know it is opposite to nonEnforced Appearances ... no wait a minute.. that is not it,
// with so hard cases You can not go mental, you have to Really think on the level, that would appeal to bring changes,
see it from a point of view "so what was the reasonsand how can we change that"
not that "it is not allowed"
...well, it is another county gov, yes they are, from their point of view as Whole, specially as Westerns them self help to make the situation like that, by not provading focused consentrated combated solution as you would need if any state head loses the head or is about to lose,
(meaning: running out solutions how to do what they want in more better ways's)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILm1hMhR1mQ
" The Commission of Inquiry cited grave crimes committed by Kim Jong-un’s regime, including:
Extermination
Murder
Enslavement
Torture
Imprisonment
Rape
Forced abortions
Sexual violence
Persecution on political, religious, racial and gender grounds
Enforced disappearances
Starvation "
----
Not that anything else would strike as note worthy,
Enforced disappearances also sonds interesting, what is that,,
i know it is opposite to nonEnforced Appearances ... no wait a minute.. that is not it,
// with so hard cases You can not go mental, you have to Really think on the level, that would appeal to bring changes,
see it from a point of view "so what was the reasonsand how can we change that"
not that "it is not allowed"
...well, it is another county gov, yes they are, from their point of view as Whole, specially as Westerns them self help to make the situation like that, by not provading focused consentrated combated solution as you would need if any state head loses the head or is about to lose,
(meaning: running out solutions how to do what they want in more better ways's)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILm1hMhR1mQ
11 March 2017 17:01
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
mine tea, vb oli...
päkapikk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH7CRo6kp0o
päkapikk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH7CRo6kp0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH7CRo6kp0o
11 March 2017 16:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i Really wanna help Kim
11 March 2017 16:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
still, main thing for me about kim is the haircut,
and do Koreans even can grow a beard, i have newer seen i think, seems strange..
anyway, will see rest of it, case by case, and reccomend better solutions,
like about how to grow food and what else to do with people who are in camps, maybe instead building some Sillicon Valley factory's there where camps are and make everyones life a bit more better,
no need to keep people in misery, brings bad energy to all and costs a lot,
and person with this kind of haircut should learn not to be so touchy about people who are telling or doing things that will get them to sent in to a camp for life, with family.
Seriouslly, is no one loving this guy and allowing him to keep the mullet so everyone internationally can laught about him or something, is that even a real guy?
I mean what kind of King keeps up this kind of tradition,
does he not know it limits consiosness, literally,
https://www.icc-cpi.int/
and do Koreans even can grow a beard, i have newer seen i think, seems strange..
anyway, will see rest of it, case by case, and reccomend better solutions,
like about how to grow food and what else to do with people who are in camps, maybe instead building some Sillicon Valley factory's there where camps are and make everyones life a bit more better,
no need to keep people in misery, brings bad energy to all and costs a lot,
and person with this kind of haircut should learn not to be so touchy about people who are telling or doing things that will get them to sent in to a camp for life, with family.
Seriouslly, is no one loving this guy and allowing him to keep the mullet so everyone internationally can laught about him or something, is that even a real guy?
I mean what kind of King keeps up this kind of tradition,
does he not know it limits consiosness, literally,
https://www.icc-cpi.int/
https://www.icc-cpi.int/
11 March 2017 16:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
or maybe take next trip to N.Korea and complain there about... og i forget, You cant.
https://www.change.org/p/united-nations-security-council-send-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-to-the-icc
https://www.change.org/p/united-nations-security-council-send-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-to-the-icc
https://www.change.org/p/united-nations-security-council-send-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-to-the-icc
11 March 2017 16:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
besides it sounds like oxymoron
11 March 2017 16:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
what about making matriarcic society instead on marxist sounding "feminist goverment"?
11 March 2017 16:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Only thing missing is to send Conchita Wurst to meet Iranian gov nexttime
11 March 2017 16:28
Margus Meigo commented on Claire Khaw's post.
Group: Patriarchy v Matriarchy
i am all confused, i have understood iran as one of the few las places where is still culture norms respected in widers sense, why would it be bad if they TRY to be normal,,the sweden i mean,
.. i was still lookingthe images, as insulting a bit as thesewomen wear a clothes that do not represent femine at all, what kind of feminist are they?11 March 2017 16:25
Margus Meigo commented on Claire Khaw's post.
Group: Patriarchy v Matriarchy
so are you for it or against?
We do agree feminism was made as weapon against matriarcy by communist, roman empire like minded people, right?11 March 2017 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on Claire Khaw's post.
Group: Patriarchy v Matriarchy
What i means?11 March 2017 16:17
Margus Meigo replied to Ninataga Kaamerataga's comment.
nu ma sutsu ikka ka arvasin et on, kuid ju jah.. siis miskite asjade puudus.
Kuid vahest tundub, nagu inimeseks pöörduda tahab...
Kuid vahest tundub, nagu inimeseks pöörduda tahab...
11 March 2017 15:28
Margus Meigo replied to Vello Kepp's comment.
armastus muidugi aga ikkagi.. saab ju aru, et ma lõplikult kass ei ole ja et... teised väljas on päris kassimad.. kuid jah.. sellised loomad nad.. et pigem inimestega kui omavahel.. veider ikkagi
11 March 2017 15:27
Margus Meigo replied to Vello Kepp's comment.
õnneks piima olen veel saanud anda.. .kuid lihtsalt mõtlen omamoodi.. et miks kass siin inimesega kuid koos veedab ja õues teiste kassidega ei hängi, et nagu inimesena ma mõtleks, et kui mingi olendi juures olen, okey, saan süüa ja katust.. kuid kuskil on mingi teised inimesed.. siis .. siis ju ikka nendega prooviks suhestuda ja uusi leida jakokku saada ja toimetada.. .. et lihtsalt proovin täielikultaru saada, et miks need, kuidas need kassid nii individuaalsed,et kas see terve on, mentaalselt
11 March 2017 15:26
Margus Meigo replied to Vello Kepp's comment.
aa ja siis avastanudveel, et muna kollast sööb ja muna valget mitte, toorest muna ka ei söö.
Kuigi meil menüü nii kesine, et siin midagi suurt jagada pole, isegi muretsen, et kuidas ta siin nii vähesega hakkama saanud, ... kuid jah.. ju need kassitoidud suts kahtlased on osad
Kuigi meil menüü nii kesine, et siin midagi suurt jagada pole, isegi muretsen, et kuidas ta siin nii vähesega hakkama saanud, ... kuid jah.. ju need kassitoidud suts kahtlased on osad
11 March 2017 15:23
Margus Meigo replied to Vello Kepp's comment.
Nu vut ma ka seda eeldan,
kuid mis see asi on, et meeldib süüa ja nõuab mu taldrikust kuid sama asja ta kaussi panen siis seda nagu hädapärast sööb.. täitsa tavaline moll on..
Vahestarvasin, et mingi puhtuse vahe kuid see vahe vistka pole olnud
kuid mis see asi on, et meeldib süüa ja nõuab mu taldrikust kuid sama asja ta kaussi panen siis seda nagu hädapärast sööb.. täitsa tavaline moll on..
Vahestarvasin, et mingi puhtuse vahe kuid see vahe vistka pole olnud
11 March 2017 15:22
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Jõgioja's comment.
nu ma hiiri ka ikka toidan siin samal ajal,,, et kõigile jätkuks
11 March 2017 15:20
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
nu porgandi üles kiskumine juba on suts rohust samm edasi
11 March 2017 15:19
Margus Meigo replied to Kristel Pohlak's comment.
:D
11 March 2017 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on Dmitriy Zubov's photo.
Almoust more Ukrainian then Ukraine :))
Really beautiful!
Really beautiful!
11 March 2017 15:03
Margus Meigo replied to Alex Riitmaa's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
24 vist ikkagi, kui 16a pihta hakkas siis võimalik vist ikka.
Ega vist vaevalt, et artikli kirjutajal selline asi silmevahele jäänud oleks,
kuid muidugi alati oluline mõelda nendele asjadele, alati, selles ilmas.
kriitilisus aiatab kuid siis alati lõpuni proovida mingi osa kriitikast mõelda (st arvutused jne).
Muidu proovisin tema nime googeldada kuid kuidas seda vene keeles kirjutatakse?11 March 2017 13:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mõnes mõttes on õnnistatud ja hästi õnnelikud need kes seda teadma ei pea ega tegema, ja ega kogujalgi lihtne olnud.. kuid ta töö oli koguda.. kuid kujuta ette kuidas need tunnevad kes kogutu korda tegema peavad oma soovides ja enne puhkust pole antud, kui kõik on valmis
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teame et mingid meist lõpuks ainult siis õnnestuvad kui me kõik pidevalt teeme ja mõtleme kuidas teha veel olenemata olukorrast mida näeme, näen.
Ei ole midagi väiksemat meile loodud kui Kõik, ...mida usume, et teha saame
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(Armastuse Jumalanna, Jumala Heaks)
Tehes ühele, teed teisele,
Püha vaimuks kutsutakse seda kooslust või looja vaimuilma valitsust?
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teame et mingid meist lõpuks ainult siis õnnestuvad kui me kõik pidevalt teeme ja mõtleme kuidas teha veel olenemata olukorrast mida näeme, näen.
Ei ole midagi väiksemat meile loodud kui Kõik, ...mida usume, et teha saame
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(Armastuse Jumalanna, Jumala Heaks)
Tehes ühele, teed teisele,
Püha vaimuks kutsutakse seda kooslust või looja vaimuilma valitsust?
11 March 2017 13:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
If postmodernity is Nihilism, wonder what is the international syle..
" Nihilism is also a characteristic that has been ascribed to time periods: for example, Jean Baudrillard and others have called postmodernity a nihilistic epoch,[ and some Christian theologians and figures of religious authority have asserted that postmodernity[6] and many aspects of modernity[ represent a rejection of theism, and that such rejection of their theistic doctrine entails nihilism. "
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More about Nihil:
Nihilism (/ˈnaɪ.ᵻlɪzəm/ or /ˈniː.ᵻlɪzəm/; from the Latin nihil, nothing) is a philosophical doctrine that suggests the lack of belief in one or more reputedly meaningful aspects of life. Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism, which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value. Moral nihilists assert that there is no inherent morality, and that accepted moral values are abstractly contrived. Nihilism may also take epistemological, ontological, or metaphysical forms, meaning respectively that, in some aspect, knowledge is not possible, or reality does not actually exist.
The term is sometimes used in association with anomie to explain the general mood of despair at a perceived pointlessness of existence that one may develop upon realising there are no necessary norms, rules, or laws. Movements such as Futurism and deconstruction, among others, have been identified by commentators as "nihilistic"
One of the favorite ideology also by many Anarhists that addobt so many of these ...
" Nihilism is also a characteristic that has been ascribed to time periods: for example, Jean Baudrillard and others have called postmodernity a nihilistic epoch,[ and some Christian theologians and figures of religious authority have asserted that postmodernity[6] and many aspects of modernity[ represent a rejection of theism, and that such rejection of their theistic doctrine entails nihilism. "
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More about Nihil:
Nihilism (/ˈnaɪ.ᵻlɪzəm/ or /ˈniː.ᵻlɪzəm/; from the Latin nihil, nothing) is a philosophical doctrine that suggests the lack of belief in one or more reputedly meaningful aspects of life. Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism, which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value. Moral nihilists assert that there is no inherent morality, and that accepted moral values are abstractly contrived. Nihilism may also take epistemological, ontological, or metaphysical forms, meaning respectively that, in some aspect, knowledge is not possible, or reality does not actually exist.
The term is sometimes used in association with anomie to explain the general mood of despair at a perceived pointlessness of existence that one may develop upon realising there are no necessary norms, rules, or laws. Movements such as Futurism and deconstruction, among others, have been identified by commentators as "nihilistic"
One of the favorite ideology also by many Anarhists that addobt so many of these ...
11 March 2017 12:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mitte, et lapsetoit meile hästi maitsma peaks (vist?)
Ega rinnapiim ka vist maitselt sobib beebile
kuid eks nood asjad veel kunagi selgemaks saan,
jätan selle Tulevikku
Ega rinnapiim ka vist maitselt sobib beebile
kuid eks nood asjad veel kunagi selgemaks saan,
jätan selle Tulevikku
11 March 2017 04:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi see umbes nagu beebi toidu kohta peale 90 ndaid oli, ema nördinult "miks laps seda välja suust ajab ma aru ei saa? "
"nu oled sa seda maitsnud, proovi ise "
(ema maitseb)
(ööak..!!! Mis jubedus see on! ??)
tõestilugu
"nu oled sa seda maitsnud, proovi ise "
(ema maitseb)
(ööak..!!! Mis jubedus see on! ??)
tõestilugu
11 March 2017 04:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Muidugi veel:
https://arhiiv.err.ee/otsi/m%C3%A4rtsipommitaminehttps://arhiiv.err.ee/otsi/m%C3%A4rtsipommitamine
10 March 2017 16:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ERR:
https://arhiiv.err.ee/otsi/m%C3%A4rtsipommitamine
https://arhiiv.err.ee/otsi/m%C3%A4rtsipommitamine
https://arhiiv.err.ee/otsi/m%C3%A4rtsipommitamine
10 March 2017 16:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Militaarnet:
http://www.militaar.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=723
http://www.militaar.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=723
http://www.militaar.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=723
10 March 2017 16:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Postimees:
http://www.postimees.ee/teema/m%C3%A4rtsipommitamine
http://www.postimees.ee/teema/m%C3%A4rtsipommitamine
http://www.postimees.ee/teema/m%C3%A4rtsipommitamine
10 March 2017 16:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Delfi:
http://www.delfi.ee/teemalehed/martsipommitamine
http://www.delfi.ee/teemalehed/martsipommitamine
http://www.delfi.ee/teemalehed/martsipommitamine
10 March 2017 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Estonia, Eesti artikkleid:
Siin veel üks teine pikem artikkel, ka lugemisväärt teisipidi:
http://parnu.postimees.ee/2150505/linnalegendi-lopp-paernut-ei-pommitanud-britid
"... Nii muutub jutt Ülemiste järve juures alla kukkunud Mosquitost, mida piloteeris Kanada kommunistist naiskapten, üsna naeruväärseks.
Küll rakendati Tallinna kohal uut pommitamistaktikat, mille töötas välja Briti pommituslennuväe marssal Arthur ”Bomber“ Harris. Ta uskus, et tsiviilobjektide ja elanike pommitamine aitab lühendada sõda ja selleks tuleb rakendada ”pommivaipu“ (”area bombing“), mille käigus suur hulk pommitajaid külvavad teatud territooriumi üle pommisajuga. Jõhkramaid näiteid on Dresdeni maatasa tegemine 1945. aasta veebruaris. Sakslased nimetasid neid õhurünnakuid terrorirünnakuteks.
Paraku olid punakotkad siiski kehvemad briti kolleegidest ja õhutõrje kartuses viskasid pommilaadungid sageli kuhu juhtus. Nii jäi 1944 efekt saavutamata Helsingi puhul. Täiel määral ei õnnestunud ”pommivaipadega“ katta ei Narvat, Tallinna ega Pärnut. Kuigi purustused olid suured, võinuks tagajärjed olla veelgi katastroofilisemad, kui venelased olnuks Harrise usinamad õpilased.
Andres Valdre ”Air Raids on Estonian Towns“ kohaselt oli viimane õhurünnak 21. septembril 1944 Tallinnale. Pärnus purustati 931 maja, 50 protsenti hoonestusest vanalinnas, hävis 31,8 protsenti kasulikku pinda, kuid linn jäi.
British Bomber Command kaotas ilmasõjas üle 57 000 mehe ja tuhandeid lennukeid, tapeti üle 600 000 Saksa tsiviilisiku, purustati kuus miljonit maja. ..."
Siin veel üks teine pikem artikkel, ka lugemisväärt teisipidi:
http://parnu.postimees.ee/2150505/linnalegendi-lopp-paernut-ei-pommitanud-britid
"... Nii muutub jutt Ülemiste järve juures alla kukkunud Mosquitost, mida piloteeris Kanada kommunistist naiskapten, üsna naeruväärseks.
Küll rakendati Tallinna kohal uut pommitamistaktikat, mille töötas välja Briti pommituslennuväe marssal Arthur ”Bomber“ Harris. Ta uskus, et tsiviilobjektide ja elanike pommitamine aitab lühendada sõda ja selleks tuleb rakendada ”pommivaipu“ (”area bombing“), mille käigus suur hulk pommitajaid külvavad teatud territooriumi üle pommisajuga. Jõhkramaid näiteid on Dresdeni maatasa tegemine 1945. aasta veebruaris. Sakslased nimetasid neid õhurünnakuid terrorirünnakuteks.
Paraku olid punakotkad siiski kehvemad briti kolleegidest ja õhutõrje kartuses viskasid pommilaadungid sageli kuhu juhtus. Nii jäi 1944 efekt saavutamata Helsingi puhul. Täiel määral ei õnnestunud ”pommivaipadega“ katta ei Narvat, Tallinna ega Pärnut. Kuigi purustused olid suured, võinuks tagajärjed olla veelgi katastroofilisemad, kui venelased olnuks Harrise usinamad õpilased.
Andres Valdre ”Air Raids on Estonian Towns“ kohaselt oli viimane õhurünnak 21. septembril 1944 Tallinnale. Pärnus purustati 931 maja, 50 protsenti hoonestusest vanalinnas, hävis 31,8 protsenti kasulikku pinda, kuid linn jäi.
British Bomber Command kaotas ilmasõjas üle 57 000 mehe ja tuhandeid lennukeid, tapeti üle 600 000 Saksa tsiviilisiku, purustati kuus miljonit maja. ..."
http://parnu.postimees.ee/2150505/linnalegendi-lopp-paernut-ei-pommitanud-britid
10 March 2017 16:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Siin veel üks teine pikem artikkel, ka lugemisväärt teisipidi:
http://parnu.postimees.ee/2150505/linnalegendi-lopp-paernut-ei-pommitanud-britid
"... Nii muutub jutt Ülemiste järve juures alla kukkunud Mosquitost, mida piloteeris Kanada kommunistist naiskapten, üsna naeruväärseks.
Küll rakendati Tallinna kohal uut pommitamistaktikat, mille töötas välja Briti pommituslennuväe marssal Arthur ”Bomber“ Harris. Ta uskus, et tsiviilobjektide ja elanike pommitamine aitab lühendada sõda ja selleks tuleb rakendada ”pommivaipu“ (”area bombing“), mille käigus suur hulk pommitajaid külvavad teatud territooriumi üle pommisajuga. Jõhkramaid näiteid on Dresdeni maatasa tegemine 1945. aasta veebruaris. Sakslased nimetasid neid õhurünnakuid terrorirünnakuteks.
Paraku olid punakotkad siiski kehvemad briti kolleegidest ja õhutõrje kartuses viskasid pommilaadungid sageli kuhu juhtus. Nii jäi 1944 efekt saavutamata Helsingi puhul. Täiel määral ei õnnestunud ”pommivaipadega“ katta ei Narvat, Tallinna ega Pärnut. Kuigi purustused olid suured, võinuks tagajärjed olla veelgi katastroofilisemad, kui venelased olnuks Harrise usinamad õpilased.
Andres Valdre ”Air Raids on Estonian Towns“ kohaselt oli viimane õhurünnak 21. septembril 1944 Tallinnale. Pärnus purustati 931 maja, 50 protsenti hoonestusest vanalinnas, hävis 31,8 protsenti kasulikku pinda, kuid linn jäi.
British Bomber Command kaotas ilmasõjas üle 57 000 mehe ja tuhandeid lennukeid, tapeti üle 600 000 Saksa tsiviilisiku, purustati kuus miljonit maja. ..."http://parnu.postimees.ee/2150505/linnalegendi-lopp-paernut-ei-pommitanud-britid
10 March 2017 16:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuig muidugi see list ei pruugi puhas olla, (vaimselt, hakkasin just hommikul mõtlema
mine tea mis siin vahepeal on)
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ei see raskemeelne eriti ei ole (seda on tunda),
see raskemeelsuse eemaldamiseks pigem
(peaks olema)
Kuid seda tuleb õige meelestatusega kuulata, ja ega kõigil polegi vaja kes neis vaimu ilmades ei materda, keegi peab korraliku joont ka ajama seeaeg kui keegi metsast kolle eemal ajab, koostöö ja arusaamist on ainult vaja, et see, et üks saaks korraliku puhast särki kanda, on vast vaja, et siit ilmast muu mustus eemaldatakse tõeliste uskujate poolt, kes tõsimeeli, selle maailma sügavamates soppides käivad ja usuvad, et saab, sest siia elusana tagasi jõuame, hommikuks, mingiks hommikuks.
... ei oska seda veel täpsemalt sõnadesse lühidalt panna, mida kristlikud vaimuvõitlejad teevad ja mis suuremad võitlused siin mitmesugustes ilmades käivad kust osa võtame, ja raske on ühe tähtust selgitada ilma teise tähtsust oma tegudes riivamata,
kuid näiteks saab tuua siin tava inimeste korraldustes, et on politseid ja talumehed, või kaitseväelased, tuletõrjujad ja talumehed, tõesti, talumehe tee on õige kuid kas ilma nende muude, inim õige tegevusest väljas olevate tegevusteta saaks rahulikult talugi pidada, kui anarhia gruppid möllama hakkavad.. vot samamoodi on siin selle ilma eri tasemetes ja vaimuilma vahelistes ja selle sees tegemised mis paljudel, lastenagi käppas.. (ja vahest ainult lapsena) ... ja alati oht, et kaitsevälised valele teele saadetakse või politsei üle piiri astub inimlikusest ja tarkusest takerdates seadustesse ja teadmdistesse mis limiteeritud...
Hmm jaa..
siin palju muid töid ja teenimisi, mida öeldakse,et ei olegi vaja ega loodud selgitamiseks neile enamusele kes sellest siin sedasi osa ei võta.. (ma muidugi alati üritan omamoodi rebelina, veel oma plaane laiendades, .. sest sin tegevustes, et maa selle võimu alt mis ebasobiv vabastada.. siin ikka päris palju midagi vaja teha tundub... sest jõu tasakaalud tava inimese tava olekus ja mis ta vastu ja teele pantud on on ... väga mõõtmatud ja poolenisti rohkem loteriina kui üldse edasi jõuab kuskile maale... ja muidugi kui otse kurja ei torgi siis enamvähem ka vahest lastakse olla teatud pahade poolt.. siis aga teised mugavad pahad ka neile vabadele ligi voolavad... olgugi et vahest isegi teisi kurjasi pahandades, et nende tuleviku toitu või vajalikusi rikkudes ja tähelepanu liialt tuues kuhu pole vaja...) .. kuid jah lokkab ja voolab iast küljest ebavajalikust, mitmes kihis...
ja ma käinud kohtades mida selgitada mõistuslikult kas motet, aga nagu maa kera tehases, kus ka iga olendi putuka eri teadvuse jaoks oli terve ilma versiooni moodi asjad eri suuruumides, siit maalt küll eraldatud paljud ja enamus (oi kui need ligi saaks.. ja kuidas neid korda treenida... see tundus ka lõplik töö olema.. et iga kirjeldamatu õgardist zombiroot ka oma koha leiaks..), kuid mingit pidi peame ja teeme.. kuid vastu tuult läbi okastraadi peab vastu minema sellele keda aidata samas kui ta eest liigub ja sind piigiga eemale torgib ja takistusi teele ette viskab.. sellised tööd ja asjadsiin.. vaja hingede püüdmiseks et nad saaks vabaks ja õigesse kooslusessse...
kuid jah eks näis ma veel väga alguses
vanad kommentaarid:
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Religioosne ja positiivselt spirituaalne metal on väga populaarseks saanud, see muidugi on pehmem ja lihtsamini tajutavam vorm ja ei ole päris tavapärane metal, vaid "elektro epic metal", ehk siis (suts nagu multifilmilikult) kurjuse jõudude vastu energeetiliselt laadiv ja fantaasiat toov, mentaalselt nagu natuke erguti,
kuidsaab ainult visuaalselt kaasa lennates seda tajuda (et kiikumist vaadates eisaa kunagi seda tunnet lihtsalt kõhtu mis on siis kui kiiguga alla tuled..),
et kuidagi enda osa olukordades, suurtemates selle ilma välistes võitlustes ettekujutamas, kus nagunii suured võitlused käivad nii päris kui viruaal vanglates lõksudena loodud, meie võitlusvõimete ja mõttekäikude eraldmiseks, salvestamiseks, urimiseks ja tulevikus me vägede enda vastu kasutamiseks,
umbes nagu arvutimänge laste peal ja täiskasvanute peal kasutatakse, eri maade ja inimeste psüholoogia ja strateegiate profiilimiseks ja uurimiseks, täiustamiseks
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Eks ma piilu siia veel:
" There are many websites that feature Christian metal bands; we wish them well with their ministry.
This website is intended to promote Catholic Metal bands and artists whose music reflects the truth of Christ that is revealed in his Catholic Church. The essence of metal music’s energy combined with that of the Holy Spirit can be summed up by our motto, “Praising Him loudly!”. The potential that this musical form has of delivering Christ’s message and fulfilling the call to evangelize (which Pope John Paul II said was so necessary) might prove Catholic Metal music to be one of the most powerful. "
et mis siin täpsemalt on, uurimisel alles
http://catholicmetal.com/
mine tea mis siin vahepeal on)
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ei see raskemeelne eriti ei ole (seda on tunda),
see raskemeelsuse eemaldamiseks pigem
(peaks olema)
Kuid seda tuleb õige meelestatusega kuulata, ja ega kõigil polegi vaja kes neis vaimu ilmades ei materda, keegi peab korraliku joont ka ajama seeaeg kui keegi metsast kolle eemal ajab, koostöö ja arusaamist on ainult vaja, et see, et üks saaks korraliku puhast särki kanda, on vast vaja, et siit ilmast muu mustus eemaldatakse tõeliste uskujate poolt, kes tõsimeeli, selle maailma sügavamates soppides käivad ja usuvad, et saab, sest siia elusana tagasi jõuame, hommikuks, mingiks hommikuks.
... ei oska seda veel täpsemalt sõnadesse lühidalt panna, mida kristlikud vaimuvõitlejad teevad ja mis suuremad võitlused siin mitmesugustes ilmades käivad kust osa võtame, ja raske on ühe tähtust selgitada ilma teise tähtsust oma tegudes riivamata,
kuid näiteks saab tuua siin tava inimeste korraldustes, et on politseid ja talumehed, või kaitseväelased, tuletõrjujad ja talumehed, tõesti, talumehe tee on õige kuid kas ilma nende muude, inim õige tegevusest väljas olevate tegevusteta saaks rahulikult talugi pidada, kui anarhia gruppid möllama hakkavad.. vot samamoodi on siin selle ilma eri tasemetes ja vaimuilma vahelistes ja selle sees tegemised mis paljudel, lastenagi käppas.. (ja vahest ainult lapsena) ... ja alati oht, et kaitsevälised valele teele saadetakse või politsei üle piiri astub inimlikusest ja tarkusest takerdates seadustesse ja teadmdistesse mis limiteeritud...
Hmm jaa..
siin palju muid töid ja teenimisi, mida öeldakse,et ei olegi vaja ega loodud selgitamiseks neile enamusele kes sellest siin sedasi osa ei võta.. (ma muidugi alati üritan omamoodi rebelina, veel oma plaane laiendades, .. sest sin tegevustes, et maa selle võimu alt mis ebasobiv vabastada.. siin ikka päris palju midagi vaja teha tundub... sest jõu tasakaalud tava inimese tava olekus ja mis ta vastu ja teele pantud on on ... väga mõõtmatud ja poolenisti rohkem loteriina kui üldse edasi jõuab kuskile maale... ja muidugi kui otse kurja ei torgi siis enamvähem ka vahest lastakse olla teatud pahade poolt.. siis aga teised mugavad pahad ka neile vabadele ligi voolavad... olgugi et vahest isegi teisi kurjasi pahandades, et nende tuleviku toitu või vajalikusi rikkudes ja tähelepanu liialt tuues kuhu pole vaja...) .. kuid jah lokkab ja voolab iast küljest ebavajalikust, mitmes kihis...
ja ma käinud kohtades mida selgitada mõistuslikult kas motet, aga nagu maa kera tehases, kus ka iga olendi putuka eri teadvuse jaoks oli terve ilma versiooni moodi asjad eri suuruumides, siit maalt küll eraldatud paljud ja enamus (oi kui need ligi saaks.. ja kuidas neid korda treenida... see tundus ka lõplik töö olema.. et iga kirjeldamatu õgardist zombiroot ka oma koha leiaks..), kuid mingit pidi peame ja teeme.. kuid vastu tuult läbi okastraadi peab vastu minema sellele keda aidata samas kui ta eest liigub ja sind piigiga eemale torgib ja takistusi teele ette viskab.. sellised tööd ja asjadsiin.. vaja hingede püüdmiseks et nad saaks vabaks ja õigesse kooslusessse...
kuid jah eks näis ma veel väga alguses
vanad kommentaarid:
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Religioosne ja positiivselt spirituaalne metal on väga populaarseks saanud, see muidugi on pehmem ja lihtsamini tajutavam vorm ja ei ole päris tavapärane metal, vaid "elektro epic metal", ehk siis (suts nagu multifilmilikult) kurjuse jõudude vastu energeetiliselt laadiv ja fantaasiat toov, mentaalselt nagu natuke erguti,
kuidsaab ainult visuaalselt kaasa lennates seda tajuda (et kiikumist vaadates eisaa kunagi seda tunnet lihtsalt kõhtu mis on siis kui kiiguga alla tuled..),
et kuidagi enda osa olukordades, suurtemates selle ilma välistes võitlustes ettekujutamas, kus nagunii suured võitlused käivad nii päris kui viruaal vanglates lõksudena loodud, meie võitlusvõimete ja mõttekäikude eraldmiseks, salvestamiseks, urimiseks ja tulevikus me vägede enda vastu kasutamiseks,
umbes nagu arvutimänge laste peal ja täiskasvanute peal kasutatakse, eri maade ja inimeste psüholoogia ja strateegiate profiilimiseks ja uurimiseks, täiustamiseks
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Eks ma piilu siia veel:
" There are many websites that feature Christian metal bands; we wish them well with their ministry.
This website is intended to promote Catholic Metal bands and artists whose music reflects the truth of Christ that is revealed in his Catholic Church. The essence of metal music’s energy combined with that of the Holy Spirit can be summed up by our motto, “Praising Him loudly!”. The potential that this musical form has of delivering Christ’s message and fulfilling the call to evangelize (which Pope John Paul II said was so necessary) might prove Catholic Metal music to be one of the most powerful. "
et mis siin täpsemalt on, uurimisel alles
http://catholicmetal.com/
http://catholicmetal.com/
10 March 2017 16:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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muidugi kui ta ise peale teeks korralikult, siis lendaks kaugemale veelgi..10 March 2017 16:30
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Masing's post.
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Aus arst10 March 2017 16:29
Margus Meigo replied to Madis Masing's comment.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
põhjus on et me kommunismi all elame, rooma impeeriumi ja mustade jõudude kontrolli all, kellel ei ole KUNAGI huvi neid asju inimestele anda, selle eest nad tkandist tugevat hoolt üle maailma enamus shamaani kultuure ja ravitamede tarkuse likvideerimisega ja tegelevad siiamaani,
Liberaalid üle 300 000 peruulase likvideerisid jus, iidse keele perekonnapuust, sund steriliseerisid, viimane programm lõppes aastal 2000, sildi all ,et see majandusele kasulikum ja nu enamus nõustusid sest keegi eriti sellest ei räägi.
Muidugi see juhuslikult ka rahvas kes igast taimetarkusi ja psyhdeeliat teab...
Muidu üks hea raamat ka: SHamaani rüü,
tasub mei leriti lugeda Eestlastel, ing keeles ka saadaval,
teen pdf koopia kui saan mingiaeg10 March 2017 16:28
Margus Meigo commented on Elver Loho's post.
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Nu jah, tasuks LSD tellimisega enamuses piirduda jms, siis ei ärrita kedagi sest eiavastata10 March 2017 16:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// can You imagine, they wrote 400 pages about it,
wonder if the full pact it self was included in a book of this lenght
wonder if the full pact it self was included in a book of this lenght
10 March 2017 16:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"For nearly two years the two most infamous dictators in history actively collaborated with one another. The Nazi-Soviet Pact stunned the world when it was announced, the Second World War was launched under its auspices with the invasion and division of Poland, and its eventual collapse led to the war’s defining and deciding clash.
It is a chapter too often skimmed over by popular histories of the Second World War, and in The Devils’ Alliance Roger Moorhouse tells the full story of the pact between Hitler and Stalin for the first time, from the motivation for its inception to its dramatic and abrupt end in 1941 as Germany declared war against its former partner.
Using first-hand and eye-witness testimony, this is not just an account of the turbulent, febrile politics underlying the unlikely collaboration between these two totalitarian regimes, but of the human costs of the pact, as millions of eastern Europeans fell victim to the nefarious ambitions of Hitler and Stalin.
https://books.google.ee/books?id=Xv5sAwAAQBAJ&
It is a chapter too often skimmed over by popular histories of the Second World War, and in The Devils’ Alliance Roger Moorhouse tells the full story of the pact between Hitler and Stalin for the first time, from the motivation for its inception to its dramatic and abrupt end in 1941 as Germany declared war against its former partner.
Using first-hand and eye-witness testimony, this is not just an account of the turbulent, febrile politics underlying the unlikely collaboration between these two totalitarian regimes, but of the human costs of the pact, as millions of eastern Europeans fell victim to the nefarious ambitions of Hitler and Stalin.
https://books.google.ee/books?id=Xv5sAwAAQBAJ&
https://books.google.ee/books?id=Xv5sAwAAQBAJ
10 March 2017 16:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
August 16, 1988 / NY / USA
" Estonians have been told for the first time by the state-run press of the secret agreement between Stalin and Hitler that paved the way 49 years ago for the Soviet takeover of the three independent Baltic states.
Advocates of change who live in this city, capital of the republic of Estonia, say the public airing of the protocols of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact is long overdue, and that it will allow open discussion of Estonia's turbulent history.
The resurgence of nationalist feeling in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania poses a thorny problem for Mikhail S. Gorbachev, the Soviet leader, who also faces ethnic unrest in Armenia, Azerbaijan and elsewhere.
Details of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, signed on Aug. 23, 1939, were disclosed by the Estonian-language daily newspaper Voice of the Nation on Wednesday and Thursday, and during an Estonian Radio broadcast Friday.
The first official disclosure of the secret agreement in the newspaper makes clear that Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were forcibly occupied by Soviet troops, according to Tallinn residents who translated part of the newspaper report for a visiting journalist.
People in the three Baltic republics demonstrated last year on the 48th anniversary of the signing of the pact, demanding that its provisions be made public. Demonstrations on the 49th anniversary are also considered likely.
Janis Liegzdins of the Latvian Club for Environmental Protection and Ainars Vilcens of the Movement for Latvian National Independence were in Tallinn over the weekend to meet with people in the Estonian capital about anniversary plans.
The pact, an official secret but generally known among residents of the Baltic states, instituted a nonaggression policy between Moscow and Berlin while Stalin occupied the Baltic states and Hitler invaded Poland.
The first article about the pact was accompanied by a photograph of Stalin toasting the agreement with its signers, Foreign Minister Vyacheslav M. Molotov of the Soviet Union and Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop of Germany. Broadcast on Friday
The newspapers were obtained here by The A.P., and many Tallinn residents reported hearing the radio broadcast during a popular program Friday.
''For the first time people here got to know of the secret, additional treaty between Molotov and Ribbentrop -dividing spheres of influence between the Soviet Union and Germany,'' said a journalist, Andres Raid. ''Now, for the first time, historians admit this was aggression.''
Feliks Undusk, a leader of the first unofficial political party sanctioned by Communist Party officials, said that many Estonians have known for years of the secret agreement, but that official airing of the pact will allow open discussion for the first time.
''There was happiness that finally there has been official recognition of this - that they've come to this point,'' Mr. Undusk said. His group, known as the People's Front, was formed earlier this year to work for putting into practice the changes outlined by Mr. Gorbachev.
Party officials also lifted a 48-year-old ban on public display of the blue, black and white flag of independent Estonia, and residents of this capital city are sporting ribbons and pins with the national colors.
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/08/16/world/estonians-are-told-of-the-secret-hitler-stalin-pact.html
" Estonians have been told for the first time by the state-run press of the secret agreement between Stalin and Hitler that paved the way 49 years ago for the Soviet takeover of the three independent Baltic states.
Advocates of change who live in this city, capital of the republic of Estonia, say the public airing of the protocols of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact is long overdue, and that it will allow open discussion of Estonia's turbulent history.
The resurgence of nationalist feeling in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania poses a thorny problem for Mikhail S. Gorbachev, the Soviet leader, who also faces ethnic unrest in Armenia, Azerbaijan and elsewhere.
Details of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, signed on Aug. 23, 1939, were disclosed by the Estonian-language daily newspaper Voice of the Nation on Wednesday and Thursday, and during an Estonian Radio broadcast Friday.
The first official disclosure of the secret agreement in the newspaper makes clear that Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were forcibly occupied by Soviet troops, according to Tallinn residents who translated part of the newspaper report for a visiting journalist.
People in the three Baltic republics demonstrated last year on the 48th anniversary of the signing of the pact, demanding that its provisions be made public. Demonstrations on the 49th anniversary are also considered likely.
Janis Liegzdins of the Latvian Club for Environmental Protection and Ainars Vilcens of the Movement for Latvian National Independence were in Tallinn over the weekend to meet with people in the Estonian capital about anniversary plans.
The pact, an official secret but generally known among residents of the Baltic states, instituted a nonaggression policy between Moscow and Berlin while Stalin occupied the Baltic states and Hitler invaded Poland.
The first article about the pact was accompanied by a photograph of Stalin toasting the agreement with its signers, Foreign Minister Vyacheslav M. Molotov of the Soviet Union and Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop of Germany. Broadcast on Friday
The newspapers were obtained here by The A.P., and many Tallinn residents reported hearing the radio broadcast during a popular program Friday.
''For the first time people here got to know of the secret, additional treaty between Molotov and Ribbentrop -dividing spheres of influence between the Soviet Union and Germany,'' said a journalist, Andres Raid. ''Now, for the first time, historians admit this was aggression.''
Feliks Undusk, a leader of the first unofficial political party sanctioned by Communist Party officials, said that many Estonians have known for years of the secret agreement, but that official airing of the pact will allow open discussion for the first time.
''There was happiness that finally there has been official recognition of this - that they've come to this point,'' Mr. Undusk said. His group, known as the People's Front, was formed earlier this year to work for putting into practice the changes outlined by Mr. Gorbachev.
Party officials also lifted a 48-year-old ban on public display of the blue, black and white flag of independent Estonia, and residents of this capital city are sporting ribbons and pins with the national colors.
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/08/16/world/estonians-are-told-of-the-secret-hitler-stalin-pact.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/08/16/world/estonians-are-told-of-the-secret-hitler-stalin-pact.html
10 March 2017 16:21
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"All of the great names are here: Kozhedub, Pokryshkin, Rechkalov, Koldunov, Popkov and numerous others whose thrilling exploits were an inspiration to their comrades, and who handily outscored the top American and British aces. Hundreds of portraits illuminate the lives of many aces, most unknown to western readers, and the desperate struggles of these outstanding fighter pilots who in the end were to make the skies above Eastern Europe their fiefdom "
http://www.schifferbooks.com/stalins-eagles-an-illustrated-study-of-the-soviet-aces-of-world-war-ii-and-korea-549.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Air_Forces#Folkloric_themes_in_aviation_propaganda
http://www.schifferbooks.com/stalins-eagles-an-illustrated-study-of-the-soviet-aces-of-world-war-ii-and-korea-549.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Air_Forces#Folkloric_themes_in_aviation_propaganda
http://www.schifferbooks.com/stalins-eagles-an-illustrated-study-of-the-soviet-aces-of-world-war-ii-and-korea-549.html
10 March 2017 16:17
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Aalpere's comment.
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muidugi kui kodus on vägivaldur kes teeb jubedusi ja nagu eestis kombeks on, et ükski mees kampa kokku ei aja ja naisele kaitset ei pakku näitena, siis ei ole muud teha kui lasta pähe istuda ja surmani kannatad,a lootes, et teine kõrvalt ära sureb või ära tüdineb
näitena jah.. või töökohapeal samamoodi meestel omavahel, allutakse nagu homokutsikad sest ei saa muudmoodi, võetakse perelt leib ära või siis pundis psüholoogiliselt alandatakse...
või siis poliitika ja võimu töökohtadel, veel omad mängud.. kus ei ole võimalik eriti midagi teha, siin riigis momendil seni kuni punaste võim meie endi meeltes töötab edasi.. ei saagi.. lugege kasvõi selle "kiusaja" artiiklit ärimehest, kes sadu terroriseerinud ja valitsusasutuste töötajad ise pidid töölt hirmust lahkuma, terroriseeria aga sai paartuhat eurot trahvi (rikas ärimees) ja veel kurtis, et tal depresioon tekkkinud selle süüdistuse pärast, veeel 13 inimesele lähenemiskeelu ainult..
kuigi peksis inimesi avalikult kontoris ja kodus valitsuse inimeste lähedastele helistas ja isiklikult väga rõvedate asjadega ähvardas, ootas uksetaga neil ja...
ja meie siin.. ei julge meediasse tema nimegi keegi panna, selline "kaitse" meil siin.. ja
"mitte päheistumise" mentaliteet.. et jutuks hea küll aga reaalsuses kui nahktagis mehed uksetaga on, siis kui paljud sul siin oma õiguste eest seisavad suurelt, eriti kui osad tagid on veel valitsusest endast10 March 2017 16:13
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Aalpere's comment.
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isekas tuleb teise heaolu järgi olla, sest kui valesti alluda kui võimalus on teisele õpetlikult käituda, siis teed ju endale ja teisele ka kahju10 March 2017 16:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
“Icarus, East: The Symbolic Contexts of Russian Flight
The Slavic and East European Journal : Reading: https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.10211219122810623.1073741875.1135161043&type=3
http://www.jstor.org/stable/20058219?
The Slavic and East European Journal : Reading: https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.10211219122810623.1073741875.1135161043&type=3
http://www.jstor.org/stable/20058219?
10 March 2017 16:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
True examples of left and right invented by these roman empirists, ideology that most of the westers suck on:
"The controversy surrounding Stalin makes him an ever-popular figure among all Russian politicians. While right-wing parties put the stress on the horrors of Stalinist purges, the left-wing, especially the Communist Party, emphasize his successes in the Soviet Union’s industrialization and in keeping corruption at extremely low levels.
In December, Communists in the central Russian city of Penza unveiled their plan to mark the 80th anniversary of the 1936 USSR Constitution by declaring 2016 the ‘Year of Stalin’ and opening a museum dedicated to the Soviet dictator."
"The controversy surrounding Stalin makes him an ever-popular figure among all Russian politicians. While right-wing parties put the stress on the horrors of Stalinist purges, the left-wing, especially the Communist Party, emphasize his successes in the Soviet Union’s industrialization and in keeping corruption at extremely low levels.
In December, Communists in the central Russian city of Penza unveiled their plan to mark the 80th anniversary of the 1936 USSR Constitution by declaring 2016 the ‘Year of Stalin’ and opening a museum dedicated to the Soviet dictator."
10 March 2017 15:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" The term "repression" was officially used to describe the prosecution of people considered counter-revolutionaries and enemies of the people by the leadership of the Soviet Union. The purge was motivated by the desire to remove dissenters from the Communist Party and to consolidate the authority of Joseph Stalin. Most public attention was focused on the purge of the leadership of the Communist Party, as well as of government bureaucrats and leaders of the armed forces, most of whom were Party members. The campaigns also affected many other categories of the society: intelligentsia, peasants and especially those branded as "too rich for a peasant" (kulaks), and professionals.[8] A series of NKVD (the Soviet secret police) operations affected a number of national minorities, accused of being "fifth column" communities. A number of purges were officially explained as an elimination of the possibilities of sabotage and espionage, mostly by a fictitious "Polish Military Organisation" and, consequently, many victims of the purge were ordinary Soviet citizens of Polish origin.
According to Nikita Khrushchev's 1956 speech, "On the Personality Cult and its Consequences," and more recent findings, a great number of accusations, notably those presented at the Moscow show trials, were based on forced confessions, often obtained through torture,[9] and on loose interpretations of Article 58 of the RSFSR Penal Code, which dealt with counter-revolutionary crimes. Due legal process, as defined by Soviet law in force at the time, was often largely replaced with summary proceedings by NKVD troikas.[10]
Hundreds of thousands of victims were accused of various political crimes (espionage, wrecking, sabotage, anti-Soviet agitation, conspiracies to prepare uprisings and coups); they were quickly executed by shooting, or sent to the Gulag labor camps. Many died at the penal labor camps of starvation, disease, exposure, and overwork. Other methods of dispatching victims were used on an experimental basis. One secret policeman, for example, gassed people to death in batches in the back of a specially adapted airtight van.[11][12]
The Great Purge was started under the NKVD chief Genrikh Yagoda, but the height of the campaigns occurred while the NKVD was headed by Nikolai Yezhov, from September 1936 to August 1938, hence the name Yezhovshchina. The campaigns were carried out according to the general line, and often by direct orders, of the Party Politburo headed by Stalin.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/opinion/sunday/stalinist-nostalgia-in-vladimir-putins-russia.html
" “He was a great man, unique in history,” Zhenya Viktorov, an 11th grader, told me on a recent visit. His classmate Amina Kurayev was more circumspect: “It wasn’t as terrible as they say.”
And what about the millions of Soviets who were shot or sent to the gulags? “No one was repressed for no reason,” Zhenya said. When I asked him how many political opponents Stalin killed, he told me “thousands,” and argued that the purges weren’t as “big or inhumane as the media likes to say.”
At least 15 million people were killed in prisons and labor camps under Stalin and his predecessor Vladimir Lenin, according to Alexander Yakovlev, who led a commission on rehabilitating victims of political repression under President Boris N. Yeltsin. Estimates vary, but Stalin’s victims alone certainly number in the millions.
Continue reading the main story
And yet views like Zhenya’s are becoming more common in Russia. Polls show a gradual improvement in perceptions of Stalin, who led the Soviet Union from the late 1920s until his death in 1953. A survey released on March 1 by the Levada Center, a research organization based in Moscow, found that 40 percent of Russians thought the Stalin era brought “more good than bad,” up from 27 percent in 2012. In an annual Levada survey published in January 2015, a majority of Russians (52 percent) said Stalin “probably” or “definitely” played a positive role in the country.
This quiet rehabilitation began after Vladimir V. Putin came to power in 1999. Stalin’s legacy has become a tacit justification as the Putin government has strengthened its own grip on power. Under Stalin, “order” and national prestige trumped human rights or civil liberties. "
// trumped indeed,
Russia source: https://www.rt.com/politics/337183-sympathy-for-stalin-among-russians/
"During the poll conducted by the independent sociological service Levada-Center in mid-March, 54 percent of respondents described their attitude to Stalin as positive, 17 percent said their attitude was negative, 32 percent said they were indifferent about the late Soviet dictator and 14 percent could not give a definitive answer to this question "
According to Nikita Khrushchev's 1956 speech, "On the Personality Cult and its Consequences," and more recent findings, a great number of accusations, notably those presented at the Moscow show trials, were based on forced confessions, often obtained through torture,[9] and on loose interpretations of Article 58 of the RSFSR Penal Code, which dealt with counter-revolutionary crimes. Due legal process, as defined by Soviet law in force at the time, was often largely replaced with summary proceedings by NKVD troikas.[10]
Hundreds of thousands of victims were accused of various political crimes (espionage, wrecking, sabotage, anti-Soviet agitation, conspiracies to prepare uprisings and coups); they were quickly executed by shooting, or sent to the Gulag labor camps. Many died at the penal labor camps of starvation, disease, exposure, and overwork. Other methods of dispatching victims were used on an experimental basis. One secret policeman, for example, gassed people to death in batches in the back of a specially adapted airtight van.[11][12]
The Great Purge was started under the NKVD chief Genrikh Yagoda, but the height of the campaigns occurred while the NKVD was headed by Nikolai Yezhov, from September 1936 to August 1938, hence the name Yezhovshchina. The campaigns were carried out according to the general line, and often by direct orders, of the Party Politburo headed by Stalin.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/opinion/sunday/stalinist-nostalgia-in-vladimir-putins-russia.html
" “He was a great man, unique in history,” Zhenya Viktorov, an 11th grader, told me on a recent visit. His classmate Amina Kurayev was more circumspect: “It wasn’t as terrible as they say.”
And what about the millions of Soviets who were shot or sent to the gulags? “No one was repressed for no reason,” Zhenya said. When I asked him how many political opponents Stalin killed, he told me “thousands,” and argued that the purges weren’t as “big or inhumane as the media likes to say.”
At least 15 million people were killed in prisons and labor camps under Stalin and his predecessor Vladimir Lenin, according to Alexander Yakovlev, who led a commission on rehabilitating victims of political repression under President Boris N. Yeltsin. Estimates vary, but Stalin’s victims alone certainly number in the millions.
Continue reading the main story
And yet views like Zhenya’s are becoming more common in Russia. Polls show a gradual improvement in perceptions of Stalin, who led the Soviet Union from the late 1920s until his death in 1953. A survey released on March 1 by the Levada Center, a research organization based in Moscow, found that 40 percent of Russians thought the Stalin era brought “more good than bad,” up from 27 percent in 2012. In an annual Levada survey published in January 2015, a majority of Russians (52 percent) said Stalin “probably” or “definitely” played a positive role in the country.
This quiet rehabilitation began after Vladimir V. Putin came to power in 1999. Stalin’s legacy has become a tacit justification as the Putin government has strengthened its own grip on power. Under Stalin, “order” and national prestige trumped human rights or civil liberties. "
// trumped indeed,
Russia source: https://www.rt.com/politics/337183-sympathy-for-stalin-among-russians/
"During the poll conducted by the independent sociological service Levada-Center in mid-March, 54 percent of respondents described their attitude to Stalin as positive, 17 percent said their attitude was negative, 32 percent said they were indifferent about the late Soviet dictator and 14 percent could not give a definitive answer to this question "
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/opinion/sunday/stalinist-nostalgia-in-vladimir-putins-russia.html
10 March 2017 15:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Why thye call it " Purge " ?
Who is choosing these wording, who using this wordings.... i mean it is old, 700+ old wordings but ?
" In Russian historiography, the period of the most intense purge, 1937–1938, is called Yezhovshchina (Russian: Ежовщина; literally, "Yezhov phenomenon",[note 1] commonly translated as "times of Yezhov" or "doings of Yezhov"), after Nikolai Yezhov, the head of the Soviet secret police, NKVD. It has been estimated between 600,000 and 3 million people died at the hands of the Soviet government during the Purge "
// i know there is communist instructions and liberal instructions to re-internet words and replace all negative sounding words with softer or confusing ones... but so ... it reminds toask.. why is Western media doing it.. in whole of main stream and wikipedia and...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
In the Western world, Robert Conquest's 1968 book The Great Terror popularized that phrase. Conquest's title was in turn an allusion to the period called the Reign of Terror (French: la Terreur, and, from June to July 1794, la Grande Terreur—the Great Terror) during the French Revolution
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"c. 1300, "clear of a charge or suspicion;" late 14c., "cleanse, clear, purify," from Anglo-French purger, Old French purgier "wash, clean; refine, purify" morally or physically (12c., Modern French purger) and directly from Latin purgare "cleanse, make clean; purify," especially of the body, "free from what is superfluous; remove, clear away," figuratively "refute, justify, vindicate" (also source of Spanish purgar, Italian purgare), from Old Latin purigare, from purus "pure" (see pure) + root of agere "to set in motion, drive; to do, perform" (see act (n.)). Related: Purged; purging. "
Who is choosing these wording, who using this wordings.... i mean it is old, 700+ old wordings but ?
" In Russian historiography, the period of the most intense purge, 1937–1938, is called Yezhovshchina (Russian: Ежовщина; literally, "Yezhov phenomenon",[note 1] commonly translated as "times of Yezhov" or "doings of Yezhov"), after Nikolai Yezhov, the head of the Soviet secret police, NKVD. It has been estimated between 600,000 and 3 million people died at the hands of the Soviet government during the Purge "
// i know there is communist instructions and liberal instructions to re-internet words and replace all negative sounding words with softer or confusing ones... but so ... it reminds toask.. why is Western media doing it.. in whole of main stream and wikipedia and...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
In the Western world, Robert Conquest's 1968 book The Great Terror popularized that phrase. Conquest's title was in turn an allusion to the period called the Reign of Terror (French: la Terreur, and, from June to July 1794, la Grande Terreur—the Great Terror) during the French Revolution
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"c. 1300, "clear of a charge or suspicion;" late 14c., "cleanse, clear, purify," from Anglo-French purger, Old French purgier "wash, clean; refine, purify" morally or physically (12c., Modern French purger) and directly from Latin purgare "cleanse, make clean; purify," especially of the body, "free from what is superfluous; remove, clear away," figuratively "refute, justify, vindicate" (also source of Spanish purgar, Italian purgare), from Old Latin purigare, from purus "pure" (see pure) + root of agere "to set in motion, drive; to do, perform" (see act (n.)). Related: Purged; purging. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
10 March 2017 15:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" The All-Russia Collegium for Direction of the Air Forces of the Old Army (translation is uncertain) was formed on 20 December 1917. This was a Bolshevik aerial headquarters initially led by Konstantin Akashev. Along with a general postwar military reorganisation, the collegium was reconstituted as the "Workers' and Peasants' Red Air Fleet" (Glavvozduhflot), established on 24 May 1918 and given the top-level departmental status of "Main Directorate".
It became the Directorate of the USSR Air Forces on 28 March 1924, and then the Directorate of the Workers-Peasants Red Army Air Forces on the 1st of January, 1925. Gradually its influence on aircraft design became greater. From its earliest days, the force mimicked ground forces' organization especially in the 1930s, by which time it was made up of air armies, aviation corps, aviation divisions, and aviation regiments (composed of air squadrons, flights, and fireteams, respectively).
After the creation of the Soviet state many efforts were made in order to modernize and expand aircraft production, led by its charismatic and energetic commander, General Yakov Alksnis, an eventual victim of Joseph Stalin's Great Purge
// (they make it sound like Stalin had depression... but another name for it is " Great Terror " aka Большо́й терро́р )
// ironic eh?
Domestic aircraft production increased significantly in the early 1930s and towards the end of the decade, the Soviet Air Force was able to introduce Polikarpov I-15 and I-16 fighters and Tupolev SB and SB-bis and DB-3 bombers..
https://www.revolvy.com/topic/Soviet%20Air%20Force&item_type=topic
It became the Directorate of the USSR Air Forces on 28 March 1924, and then the Directorate of the Workers-Peasants Red Army Air Forces on the 1st of January, 1925. Gradually its influence on aircraft design became greater. From its earliest days, the force mimicked ground forces' organization especially in the 1930s, by which time it was made up of air armies, aviation corps, aviation divisions, and aviation regiments (composed of air squadrons, flights, and fireteams, respectively).
After the creation of the Soviet state many efforts were made in order to modernize and expand aircraft production, led by its charismatic and energetic commander, General Yakov Alksnis, an eventual victim of Joseph Stalin's Great Purge
// (they make it sound like Stalin had depression... but another name for it is " Great Terror " aka Большо́й терро́р )
// ironic eh?
Domestic aircraft production increased significantly in the early 1930s and towards the end of the decade, the Soviet Air Force was able to introduce Polikarpov I-15 and I-16 fighters and Tupolev SB and SB-bis and DB-3 bombers..
https://www.revolvy.com/topic/Soviet%20Air%20Force&item_type=topic
https://www.revolvy.com/topic/Soviet%20Air%20Force&item_type=topic
10 March 2017 15:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Asjalik artikkel selles mõttes, kus vähemalt mingi asjapoolik räägib mitte keegi ei jutusta ümber copy-pastega teada tuntud lauseid, igaaastaselt.10 March 2017 15:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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ja lisaks veel:
"Soome uurija Carl-Fredrik Geust leidis ADD arhiivist paberi, et vähemalt üks lennupolk pidi pommitama Tallinna järgmisel päeval uuesti. Kuid halvenenud ilma tõttu jääb ülesanne täitmata. Stalin saadab oma kotkad sinna, kus toimuvad olulisemad lahingud - Krimmi ja Valgevenesse. "10 March 2017 15:06
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
näe venemaa teab rääkida, et see Eesti vabastamine oli ja taunib, et usa proovib ajalugu moonutada ja Eestit tülli ajada siin, kuulujuttudega nagu see Eestlaste kahjulik oleks olnud, et 1/3 tallinnast puruks pommitasid ja oleks ülejäänu ka pommitanud kui vaid soomlased poleks asja ära rikkunud, et päris vabaks veelgi kiiremalt saanud oleksime
kuid lõpukommetaar, et "see pole eesti vaid venemaa probleem kui Venelased ajalugu ei tunne.." on suts vale, sest see Väga suur probleem meile kõigile ja saab osutuda veel suuremaks, kui sealpool ajalugu selgemaks ei saada ja selle nimel USA reaalselt tööd ei hakka tegema vaid koos trumbiga ja usa riigisekretäriga endale urru lasevad pugeda.
Kes see riigisekretär oli, Putini isiklik suurimad USA sõpru, Exonmobile tüüp, Tillerson
http://www.postimees.ee/777924/mihkelson-venemaa-survestab-maertsipommitamise-temaatikaga-usadhttp://www.postimees.ee/777924/mihkelson-venemaa-survestab-maertsipommitamise-temaatikaga-usad
10 March 2017 14:46
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Selle aasta postimehes päris palju teemasi, üllatavalt palju:
http://www.postimees.ee/teema/m%C3%A4rtsipommitaminehttp://www.postimees.ee/teema/m%C3%A4rtsipommitamine
10 March 2017 14:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Selles mõttes, et Sputnik kirjutab umbes sama pikalt (miinus see soome osa)
https://sputnik-news.ee/event/20170309/5030702/martsipommitamine-tallinnas-1944.htmlhttps://sputnik-news.ee/event/20170309/5030702/martsipommitamine-tallinnas-1944.html
10 March 2017 14:33
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Mõelda.. nende soome tegelaste tegu oli ikka üks kangelase filmi väärt.
Sellega ikka pandi korralikult ära,
Sajad lennukid + lennuväli tõusmiseks ka katki ja muidu segadus, täiesti fantast
_
"avati tuli ja hävitati või muudeti lennuvõimetuks, ajaloolase Jaak Juske hinnangul u. 300 lennukist u. 240. Peale lennukite, hävitati ka palju lennuväljal olnud kütust. Ootamatust tulistamisest tekkinud paanika ja segadus võimaldasid soomlastel ohutult taanduda "
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http://tallinncity.postimees.ee/2721860/kuidas-soomlased-tallinna-maertsipommitamise-ajal-koige-hullemast-paeaestsidhttp://tallinncity.postimees.ee/2721860/kuidas-soomlased-tallinna-maertsipommitamise-ajal-koige-hullemast-paeaestsid
10 March 2017 14:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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mõtlen suures plaanis, need asjad peavad ikka igale inimesele täielikud olema, mitte,et "mine googelda" ... minetea mida see googeldamine siin mõnele vastuseks annab.. vastuseid saab tekitada ka... et tuleviku mõttes mõeldes, asjad peavad olema täielikud10 March 2017 14:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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muidugi hea, et seegi, kui varsti kõik positsioonid välja vahetatud me riigis, siis ei saada sedakesetki enam ülesse panna. ...
Ei mingeid linke Sanderi ema juttudele ega ütlustele.. ega muu samaga seotule.. nagu tuimalt, .. lihtsalt ilma tundeta tehakse, neid uudiseid.
Sissejuhatuseks oli artikkel hea, ja siis oleks tahtnud lugema hakata.. kuid.. oligi kõik.10 March 2017 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kas tema ainult 10 pilti tegigi? Austusest oleks võinud natukene eeltööd ikka meedia teha, ja kogu galerii koos muude kogutud piltidega erigaleriina kaasa panna.
On ikka (pahasõna) meedia.10 March 2017 14:27
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Aalpere's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
kuid Sinu elueas, peaks Sul ammu juba olema, mitmekordselt seda mida teistele õpetada ja öelda,
muidu poleks ju vanusest tolku, kui seda ei õpiks kuidas kõige edukamalt nii oma kui nooreealisi edasi aidata,
sest õpinguid ja korrastamisi on mitmesuguseid, soovitada tuleks ikka ka siis mis suunadasi ja mida... eriti tänapäeval, kus suundasi on sõna otseses mõttes tuhandeid rohkem, kui Su noorusajal10 March 2017 11:44
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Aalpere's comment.
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ei tasu olla isekas ja enesekeskne, ning eeldada, et enamus Su ümber ammu juba selles faasis ei ole, kus Sul neilt õppida10 March 2017 11:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Philip Johnson (pictured in 2002) co-defined the International Style with Henry-Russell Hitchcock
.. i mean, picture say's it all about variations of creativity
evolution from the box.. with 50 years to
For ending note:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Style_%28architecture%29#/media/File:Philip_Johnson.2002.FILARDO.jpg
.. i mean, picture say's it all about variations of creativity
evolution from the box.. with 50 years to
For ending note:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Style_%28architecture%29#/media/File:Philip_Johnson.2002.FILARDO.jpg
10 March 2017 11:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Volume Chapter Parts Regulatory Entity
1 I 1-199 Department of State
II 200-299 Agency for International Development
2 III 300-399 Peace Corps
IV 400-499 International Joint Commission, United States and Canada
V 500-599 Broadcasting Board of Governors
VI 700-799 Overseas Private Investment Corporation
IX 900-999 Foreign Service Grievance Board
X 1000-1099 Inter-American Foundation
XI 1100-1199 International Boundary and Water Commission, United States and Mexico, United States Section
XII 1200-1299 United States International Development Cooperation Agency
XIII 1300-1399 Millennium Challenge Corporation
XIV 1400-1499 Foreign Service Labor Relations Board; Federal Labor Relations Authority; General Counsel of the Federal Labor Relations Authority; and the Foreign Service Impasse Disputes Panel
XV 1500-1599 African Development Foundation
XVI 1600-1699 Japan-United States Friendship Commission
XVII 1700-1799 United States Institute of Peace
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_22_of_the_Code_of_Federal_Regulations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Institute_of_Peace (USIP: Motto Think. Act. Teach. Train.
Formation 1984)
And the Master departement, u know, before GUI : p
The United States Department of State (DOS)
A bit about state.org:
" The Department was created in 1789 and was the first executive department established
State Department, is the United States federal executive department that advises the President and leads the country in foreign policy issues. ] Equivalent to the foreign ministry of other countries, the State Department is responsible for the international relations of the United States, negotiates treaties and agreements with foreign entities, and represents the United States at the United Nations.
The Department is headquartered in the Harry S Truman Building
The Department is led by the Secretary of State, who is nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate and is a member of the Cabinet. The current Secretary of State is Rex Tillerson, beginning 1 February 2017. The Secretary of State is the second Cabinet official in the order of precedence and in the presidential line of succession, after the Vice President of the United States.
Employees 13,000 Foreign Service employees
11,000 Civil Service employees
45,000 Foreign Service local employees[1]
Annual budget $47.4 billion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_State
Deputy Secretary of State of the United States and the Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. Shannon served as acting United States Secretary of State for 2 weeks, until the confirmation of U.S. President Donald Trump's nominee, Rex Tillerson.
Shannon has worked in the United States Foreign Service since 1984
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_A._Shannon_Jr.
United States Secretary of State
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Tillerson
Tillerson has ties with President Vladimir Putin of Russia.
They have been associates since Tillerson represented Exxon's interests in Russia during President Boris Yeltsin's tenure.[ John Hamre, the President and CEO of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, of which Tillerson is a board member, states that Tillerson "has had more interactive time with Vladimir Putin than probably any other American, with the exception of Dr. Henry Kissinger."[
Tillerson is a friend of Igor Sechin,[ the leader of the Kremlin's Siloviki (security/military) faction,[ ] who has been described as "Russia's second-most powerful person" after Putin
n 2013, Tillerson was awarded the Order of Friendship by Putin for his contribution to developing cooperation in the energy sector
Tillerson is a trustee of the
Center for Strategic and International Studies and the
American Petroleum Institute.
He is also a member of the Business Roundtable.
He was a member of the executive committee of The Business Council for 2011 and 2012.
Tillerson is a longtime volunteer with the Boy Scouts of America, and from 2010 to 2012 was their national president, its highest non-executive position
---
Tillerson joined Exxon Company, U.S.A in 1975 as a production engineer.[3] In 1989, Tillerson became general manager of the central production division of Exxon USA. In 1995, he became President of Exxon Yemen Inc. and Esso Exploration and Production Khorat Inc.[3]
In 1998, he became a vice president of Exxon Ventures (CIS) and president of Exxon Neftegas Limited with responsibility for Exxon's holdings in Russia and the Caspian Sea. In 1999, with the merger of Exxon and Mobil, he was named executive vice president of ExxonMobil Development Company. In 2004, he became president and director of ExxonMobil. On January 1, 2006, Tillerson was elected chairman and chief executive officer (CEO), following the retirement of Lee Donna Raymond
Oh so, is that so:
"On January 4, 2017, The Financial Times reported that Tillerson would cut his ExxonMobil ties if he became Secretary of State.[ Walter Shaub, the director of the United States Office of Government Ethics, said he was proud of the ethics agreement developed for Tillerson, who was now "free of financial conflicts of interest. His ethics agreement serves as a sterling model for what we’d like to see with other nominees"
i wonder if u still consult or answer emails, probabaly not as Trump also has no interest on hes business empire anymore.. ... u know, like they would be on that position as missionaris for life and then ...
but then again, perhaps good Americans are like that, deeply in soul and state for people over corporate personal interest related to powers that morally and culturally are here to take caret out from your country people or just by programming then in a way that is needed for future reconstruction of one roman empire
1 I 1-199 Department of State
II 200-299 Agency for International Development
2 III 300-399 Peace Corps
IV 400-499 International Joint Commission, United States and Canada
V 500-599 Broadcasting Board of Governors
VI 700-799 Overseas Private Investment Corporation
IX 900-999 Foreign Service Grievance Board
X 1000-1099 Inter-American Foundation
XI 1100-1199 International Boundary and Water Commission, United States and Mexico, United States Section
XII 1200-1299 United States International Development Cooperation Agency
XIII 1300-1399 Millennium Challenge Corporation
XIV 1400-1499 Foreign Service Labor Relations Board; Federal Labor Relations Authority; General Counsel of the Federal Labor Relations Authority; and the Foreign Service Impasse Disputes Panel
XV 1500-1599 African Development Foundation
XVI 1600-1699 Japan-United States Friendship Commission
XVII 1700-1799 United States Institute of Peace
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_22_of_the_Code_of_Federal_Regulations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Institute_of_Peace (USIP: Motto Think. Act. Teach. Train.
Formation 1984)
And the Master departement, u know, before GUI : p
The United States Department of State (DOS)
A bit about state.org:
" The Department was created in 1789 and was the first executive department established
State Department, is the United States federal executive department that advises the President and leads the country in foreign policy issues. ] Equivalent to the foreign ministry of other countries, the State Department is responsible for the international relations of the United States, negotiates treaties and agreements with foreign entities, and represents the United States at the United Nations.
The Department is headquartered in the Harry S Truman Building
The Department is led by the Secretary of State, who is nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate and is a member of the Cabinet. The current Secretary of State is Rex Tillerson, beginning 1 February 2017. The Secretary of State is the second Cabinet official in the order of precedence and in the presidential line of succession, after the Vice President of the United States.
Employees 13,000 Foreign Service employees
11,000 Civil Service employees
45,000 Foreign Service local employees[1]
Annual budget $47.4 billion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_State
Deputy Secretary of State of the United States and the Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. Shannon served as acting United States Secretary of State for 2 weeks, until the confirmation of U.S. President Donald Trump's nominee, Rex Tillerson.
Shannon has worked in the United States Foreign Service since 1984
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_A._Shannon_Jr.
United States Secretary of State
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Tillerson
Tillerson has ties with President Vladimir Putin of Russia.
They have been associates since Tillerson represented Exxon's interests in Russia during President Boris Yeltsin's tenure.[ John Hamre, the President and CEO of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, of which Tillerson is a board member, states that Tillerson "has had more interactive time with Vladimir Putin than probably any other American, with the exception of Dr. Henry Kissinger."[
Tillerson is a friend of Igor Sechin,[ the leader of the Kremlin's Siloviki (security/military) faction,[ ] who has been described as "Russia's second-most powerful person" after Putin
n 2013, Tillerson was awarded the Order of Friendship by Putin for his contribution to developing cooperation in the energy sector
Tillerson is a trustee of the
Center for Strategic and International Studies and the
American Petroleum Institute.
He is also a member of the Business Roundtable.
He was a member of the executive committee of The Business Council for 2011 and 2012.
Tillerson is a longtime volunteer with the Boy Scouts of America, and from 2010 to 2012 was their national president, its highest non-executive position
---
Tillerson joined Exxon Company, U.S.A in 1975 as a production engineer.[3] In 1989, Tillerson became general manager of the central production division of Exxon USA. In 1995, he became President of Exxon Yemen Inc. and Esso Exploration and Production Khorat Inc.[3]
In 1998, he became a vice president of Exxon Ventures (CIS) and president of Exxon Neftegas Limited with responsibility for Exxon's holdings in Russia and the Caspian Sea. In 1999, with the merger of Exxon and Mobil, he was named executive vice president of ExxonMobil Development Company. In 2004, he became president and director of ExxonMobil. On January 1, 2006, Tillerson was elected chairman and chief executive officer (CEO), following the retirement of Lee Donna Raymond
Oh so, is that so:
"On January 4, 2017, The Financial Times reported that Tillerson would cut his ExxonMobil ties if he became Secretary of State.[ Walter Shaub, the director of the United States Office of Government Ethics, said he was proud of the ethics agreement developed for Tillerson, who was now "free of financial conflicts of interest. His ethics agreement serves as a sterling model for what we’d like to see with other nominees"
i wonder if u still consult or answer emails, probabaly not as Trump also has no interest on hes business empire anymore.. ... u know, like they would be on that position as missionaris for life and then ...
but then again, perhaps good Americans are like that, deeply in soul and state for people over corporate personal interest related to powers that morally and culturally are here to take caret out from your country people or just by programming then in a way that is needed for future reconstruction of one roman empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_22_of_the_Code_of_Federal_Regulations
10 March 2017 11:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Also list in there, that has been keeping it self as de facto respect un biased un manipulated good will prodcasting..
just how to do it is a question, how to keep it even more..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_television_channels
just how to do it is a question, how to keep it even more..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_television_channels
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_television_channels
10 March 2017 11:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but then again.. there have .. must be some other strong force over all related to nation who will have power to look in to other people soul cleaness.
conntinuing thelist:
The National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) administers the principal United States labor law, the National Labor Relations Act. The board is vested with the power to prevent or remedy unfair labor practices and to safeguard employees' rights to organize and determine through elections whether to have a union as their bargaining representative.
The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) investigates all aviation accidents in the United States, and certain major railroad and other accidents.[15]
The Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) was established by the Energy Reorganization Act of 1974 from the United States Atomic Energy Commission, and was first opened January 19, 1975. The NRC oversees reactor safety and security, reactor licensing and renewal, radioactive material safety, and spent fuel management (storage, security, recycling, and disposal).
The National Science Foundation (NSF) is a United States government agency that supports fundamental research and education in all the non-medical fields of science and engineering.
The Postal Regulatory Commission (PRC) was created in 1971 as the Postal Rate Commission and strengthened under the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act enacted in December 2006. Provides regulatory oversight over the activities of the United States Postal Service.
The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) was established to protect investors who buy stocks and bonds. Federal laws require companies that plan to raise money by selling their own securities to file reports about their operations with the SEC, so that investors have access to all material information. The commission has powers to prevent or punish fraud in the sale of securities and is authorized to regulate stock exchanges.
The Selective Service System (SSS) is an independent federal agency operating with permanent authorization under the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 451 et seq.). It is not part of the Department of Defense; however, it exists to serve the emergency manpower needs of the Military by conscripting untrained men, or personnel with professional health care skills, if directed by Congress and the President in a national crisis. Its statutory missions also include being ready to administer an alternative service program, in lieu of military service for men classified as conscientious objectors.
The Small Business Administration (SBA) was created in 1953 to advise, assist, and protect the interests of small business concerns. The SBA guarantees loans to small businesses, aids victims of floods and other natural disasters, promotes the growth of minority-owned firms, and helps secure contracts for small businesses to supply goods and services to the federal government.
The Smithsonian Institution (SI) is an independent establishment of the United States created by an act of Congress August 10, 1846. The SI conducts scientific and scholarly research; publishes the results of studies, explorations, and investigations; organizes exhibits representative of the arts, the sciences, American history, and world culture as well as engages in educational programming and national and international cooperative research. Most of the National Museums in Washington, DC are part of the Smithsonian.
The Social Security Administration (SSA) is the United States federal agency that administers Social Security, a social insurance program consisting of retirement, disability, and survivors' benefits. To qualify for these benefits, most American workers pay Social Security taxes on their earnings; future benefits are based on the employees' contributions.
The Surface Transportation Board (STB) was created in the ICC Termination Act of 1995 and is the successor agency to the Interstate Commerce Commission. The STB is an economic regulatory agency that Congress charged with resolving railroad rate and service disputes and reviewing proposed railroad mergers. The STB is decisionally independent, although it is administratively affiliated with the Department of Transportation.
The United States Postal Service (USPS) is defined by statute as an "independent establishment" of the federal government, which replaced the Cabinet-level Post Office Department in 1971. The Postal Service is responsible for the collection, transportation, and delivery of the mails, and for the operation of thousands of local post offices across the country. It also provides international mail service through the Universal Postal Union and other agreements with foreign countries.
Other independent agencies: the National Credit Union Administration (NCUA) and the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC).
maybe something among them.. but:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_agency
conntinuing thelist:
The National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) administers the principal United States labor law, the National Labor Relations Act. The board is vested with the power to prevent or remedy unfair labor practices and to safeguard employees' rights to organize and determine through elections whether to have a union as their bargaining representative.
The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) investigates all aviation accidents in the United States, and certain major railroad and other accidents.[15]
The Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) was established by the Energy Reorganization Act of 1974 from the United States Atomic Energy Commission, and was first opened January 19, 1975. The NRC oversees reactor safety and security, reactor licensing and renewal, radioactive material safety, and spent fuel management (storage, security, recycling, and disposal).
The National Science Foundation (NSF) is a United States government agency that supports fundamental research and education in all the non-medical fields of science and engineering.
The Postal Regulatory Commission (PRC) was created in 1971 as the Postal Rate Commission and strengthened under the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act enacted in December 2006. Provides regulatory oversight over the activities of the United States Postal Service.
The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) was established to protect investors who buy stocks and bonds. Federal laws require companies that plan to raise money by selling their own securities to file reports about their operations with the SEC, so that investors have access to all material information. The commission has powers to prevent or punish fraud in the sale of securities and is authorized to regulate stock exchanges.
The Selective Service System (SSS) is an independent federal agency operating with permanent authorization under the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 451 et seq.). It is not part of the Department of Defense; however, it exists to serve the emergency manpower needs of the Military by conscripting untrained men, or personnel with professional health care skills, if directed by Congress and the President in a national crisis. Its statutory missions also include being ready to administer an alternative service program, in lieu of military service for men classified as conscientious objectors.
The Small Business Administration (SBA) was created in 1953 to advise, assist, and protect the interests of small business concerns. The SBA guarantees loans to small businesses, aids victims of floods and other natural disasters, promotes the growth of minority-owned firms, and helps secure contracts for small businesses to supply goods and services to the federal government.
The Smithsonian Institution (SI) is an independent establishment of the United States created by an act of Congress August 10, 1846. The SI conducts scientific and scholarly research; publishes the results of studies, explorations, and investigations; organizes exhibits representative of the arts, the sciences, American history, and world culture as well as engages in educational programming and national and international cooperative research. Most of the National Museums in Washington, DC are part of the Smithsonian.
The Social Security Administration (SSA) is the United States federal agency that administers Social Security, a social insurance program consisting of retirement, disability, and survivors' benefits. To qualify for these benefits, most American workers pay Social Security taxes on their earnings; future benefits are based on the employees' contributions.
The Surface Transportation Board (STB) was created in the ICC Termination Act of 1995 and is the successor agency to the Interstate Commerce Commission. The STB is an economic regulatory agency that Congress charged with resolving railroad rate and service disputes and reviewing proposed railroad mergers. The STB is decisionally independent, although it is administratively affiliated with the Department of Transportation.
The United States Postal Service (USPS) is defined by statute as an "independent establishment" of the federal government, which replaced the Cabinet-level Post Office Department in 1971. The Postal Service is responsible for the collection, transportation, and delivery of the mails, and for the operation of thousands of local post offices across the country. It also provides international mail service through the Universal Postal Union and other agreements with foreign countries.
Other independent agencies: the National Credit Union Administration (NCUA) and the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC).
maybe something among them.. but:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_agency
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_agency
10 March 2017 11:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But yea, some way at least it seems, if they independent, and spirit tested, then at least if USA is ruled overthen they who run usa can not access usa central code and to power over the state even if he will try as he got no legislation to it..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_agencies_of_the_United_States_government
The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) gathers intelligence and provides national security assessments to policymakers in the United States. It acts as the primary human intelligence provider for the federal government.
The Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) regulates commodity futures and option markets in the United States. The agency protects market participants against manipulation, abusive trade practices and fraud. Through effective oversight and regulation, the CFTC enables the markets to serve better their important functions in the nation's economy providing a mechanism for price discovery and a means of offsetting price risk.
The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) is responsible for consumer protection in the financial sector. Its jurisdiction includes banks, credit unions, securities firms, payday lenders, mortgage-servicing operations, foreclosure relief services, debt collectors, other financial companies operating in the United States.
The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) works with state and local governments throughout the United States to control and abate pollution in the air and water and to deal with problems related to solid waste, pesticides, radiation, and toxic substances. The EPA sets and enforces standards for air and water quality, evaluates the impact of pesticides and chemical substances, and manages the "Superfund" program for cleaning toxic waste sites.
The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is charged with regulating interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite, and cable. It licenses radio and television broadcast stations, assigns radio frequencies, and enforces regulations designed to ensure that cable rates are reasonable. The FCC regulates common carriers, such as telephone and telegraph companies, as well as wireless telecommunications service providers.
The Federal Election Commission (FEC) oversees campaign financing for all federal elections. The Commission oversees election rules as well as reporting of campaign contributions by the candidates.
The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) is the United States federal agency with jurisdiction over interstate electricity sales, wholesale electric rates, hydroelectric licensing, natural gas pricing, and oil pipeline rates. FERC also reviews and authorizes liquefied natural gas (LNG) terminals, interstate natural gas pipelines and non-federal hydropower projects.
The Federal Maritime Commission (FMC) regulates the international ocean transportation of the United States. It is charged with ensuring a competitive, efficient, and economic ocean transportation system.[13]
The Federal Reserve Board of Governors is the governing body of the Federal Reserve System (frequently referred to as "the Fed"[14]), the central bank of the United States. It conducts the nation's monetary policy by influencing the volume of credit and money in circulation. The Federal Reserve regulates private banking institutions, works to contain systemic risk in financial markets, and provides certain financial services to the U.S. government, the public, and financial institutions.
The Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board (FRTIB) is one of the smaller Executive Branch agencies, with just over 100 employees. It was established to administer the Thrift Savings Plan (TSP), which provides Federal employees the opportunity to save for additional retirement security. The Thrift Savings Plan is a tax-deferred defined contribution plan similar to a private sector 401(k) plan.
The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) enforces federal antitrust and consumer protection laws by investigating complaints against individual companies initiated by consumers, businesses, congressional inquiries, or reports in the media. The commission seeks to ensure that the nation's markets function competitively by eliminating unfair or deceptive practices.
The General Services Administration (GSA) is responsible for the purchase, supply, operation, and maintenance of federal property, buildings, and equipment, and for the sale of surplus items. GSA also manages the federal motor vehicle fleet and oversees telecommuting centers and civilian child care centers.
The International Trade Commission (ITC) provides trade expertise to both the legislative and executive branches of government, determines the impact of imports on U.S. industries, and directs actions against certain unfair trade practices, such as patent, trademark, and copyright infringement.
The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) preserves the nation's history by overseeing the management of all federal records. The holdings of the National Archives include original textual materials, motion picture films, sound and video recordings, maps, still pictures, and computer data. The Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution, and the Bill of Rights are preserved and displayed at the National Archives building in Washington, D.C.
The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) is a U.S Government Space Agency that is responsible for the civilian space program as well as aeronautics and aerospace research.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_agencies_of_the_United_States_government
The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) gathers intelligence and provides national security assessments to policymakers in the United States. It acts as the primary human intelligence provider for the federal government.
The Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) regulates commodity futures and option markets in the United States. The agency protects market participants against manipulation, abusive trade practices and fraud. Through effective oversight and regulation, the CFTC enables the markets to serve better their important functions in the nation's economy providing a mechanism for price discovery and a means of offsetting price risk.
The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) is responsible for consumer protection in the financial sector. Its jurisdiction includes banks, credit unions, securities firms, payday lenders, mortgage-servicing operations, foreclosure relief services, debt collectors, other financial companies operating in the United States.
The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) works with state and local governments throughout the United States to control and abate pollution in the air and water and to deal with problems related to solid waste, pesticides, radiation, and toxic substances. The EPA sets and enforces standards for air and water quality, evaluates the impact of pesticides and chemical substances, and manages the "Superfund" program for cleaning toxic waste sites.
The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is charged with regulating interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite, and cable. It licenses radio and television broadcast stations, assigns radio frequencies, and enforces regulations designed to ensure that cable rates are reasonable. The FCC regulates common carriers, such as telephone and telegraph companies, as well as wireless telecommunications service providers.
The Federal Election Commission (FEC) oversees campaign financing for all federal elections. The Commission oversees election rules as well as reporting of campaign contributions by the candidates.
The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) is the United States federal agency with jurisdiction over interstate electricity sales, wholesale electric rates, hydroelectric licensing, natural gas pricing, and oil pipeline rates. FERC also reviews and authorizes liquefied natural gas (LNG) terminals, interstate natural gas pipelines and non-federal hydropower projects.
The Federal Maritime Commission (FMC) regulates the international ocean transportation of the United States. It is charged with ensuring a competitive, efficient, and economic ocean transportation system.[13]
The Federal Reserve Board of Governors is the governing body of the Federal Reserve System (frequently referred to as "the Fed"[14]), the central bank of the United States. It conducts the nation's monetary policy by influencing the volume of credit and money in circulation. The Federal Reserve regulates private banking institutions, works to contain systemic risk in financial markets, and provides certain financial services to the U.S. government, the public, and financial institutions.
The Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board (FRTIB) is one of the smaller Executive Branch agencies, with just over 100 employees. It was established to administer the Thrift Savings Plan (TSP), which provides Federal employees the opportunity to save for additional retirement security. The Thrift Savings Plan is a tax-deferred defined contribution plan similar to a private sector 401(k) plan.
The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) enforces federal antitrust and consumer protection laws by investigating complaints against individual companies initiated by consumers, businesses, congressional inquiries, or reports in the media. The commission seeks to ensure that the nation's markets function competitively by eliminating unfair or deceptive practices.
The General Services Administration (GSA) is responsible for the purchase, supply, operation, and maintenance of federal property, buildings, and equipment, and for the sale of surplus items. GSA also manages the federal motor vehicle fleet and oversees telecommuting centers and civilian child care centers.
The International Trade Commission (ITC) provides trade expertise to both the legislative and executive branches of government, determines the impact of imports on U.S. industries, and directs actions against certain unfair trade practices, such as patent, trademark, and copyright infringement.
The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) preserves the nation's history by overseeing the management of all federal records. The holdings of the National Archives include original textual materials, motion picture films, sound and video recordings, maps, still pictures, and computer data. The Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution, and the Bill of Rights are preserved and displayed at the National Archives building in Washington, D.C.
The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) is a U.S Government Space Agency that is responsible for the civilian space program as well as aeronautics and aerospace research.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_agencies_of_the_United_States_government
10 March 2017 11:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The International Broadcasting Bureau (IBB) is the technical support outlet within the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG), which is a U.S. independent agency. The IBB supports the day-to-day operations of Voice of America (VOA) and the Office of Cuba Broadcasting (Radio y Televisión Martí). It also provides transmission and technical support for all of the independent non-military broadcasting services funded by the (BBG)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Broadcasting_Bureau
On April 30, 1994, President Clinton signed the International Broadcasting Act (Public Law 103-236). The legislation established the International Broadcasting Bureau (IBB) within the United States Information Agency (USIA), and created a Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) with oversight authority over all non-military U.S. government international broadcasting.
The Voice of America, the oldest and best-known organization within the BBG, was the first broadcast news organization to offer continuously updated programming on the Internet.[1]
When USIA was disbanded in October 1999, the IBB and BBG were established as independent federal government entities, with the IBB as an administrative vehicle under the BBG containing VOA, Radio and TV Martí, the Office of Engineering and Technical Services, and a number of support services.
Other international broadcasting services supervised by the BBG are constituted as private corporations and are not part of the IBB.
These include:
Radio Sawa and Al Hurra television (Arabic),
Radio Farda (Persian to Iran),
Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL)
Radio Free Asia (RFA).
Currently, the VOA and the IBB continue to operate shortwave radio transmitters and antenna farms at one site in the United States, located near Greenville, North Carolina.
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// Lol, that does not sound good in this wording :
"3 years as longest..."
The position of IBB Director was appointed by the president of the United States, with Senate confirmation. The last IBB Director was Richard M. Lobo. Mr. Lobo was appointed by President Barack Obama and confirmed by the Senate in September 2010.[ ] He retired in November 2013 being the longest-serving IBB Director.
Previously, the directorship was held by Seth Cropsey (December 9, 2002—2004). Appointed by the BBG, Brian Conniff served as acting director from April 1999 to December 2002. ] Joseph B. Bruns was the first director of IBB, he served from 1994 until 1995. Bruns previously had been Acting Associate Director of Broadcasting of USIA and Acting Director of VOA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Broadcasting_Bureau
On April 30, 1994, President Clinton signed the International Broadcasting Act (Public Law 103-236). The legislation established the International Broadcasting Bureau (IBB) within the United States Information Agency (USIA), and created a Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) with oversight authority over all non-military U.S. government international broadcasting.
The Voice of America, the oldest and best-known organization within the BBG, was the first broadcast news organization to offer continuously updated programming on the Internet.[1]
When USIA was disbanded in October 1999, the IBB and BBG were established as independent federal government entities, with the IBB as an administrative vehicle under the BBG containing VOA, Radio and TV Martí, the Office of Engineering and Technical Services, and a number of support services.
Other international broadcasting services supervised by the BBG are constituted as private corporations and are not part of the IBB.
These include:
Radio Sawa and Al Hurra television (Arabic),
Radio Farda (Persian to Iran),
Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL)
Radio Free Asia (RFA).
Currently, the VOA and the IBB continue to operate shortwave radio transmitters and antenna farms at one site in the United States, located near Greenville, North Carolina.
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// Lol, that does not sound good in this wording :
"3 years as longest..."
The position of IBB Director was appointed by the president of the United States, with Senate confirmation. The last IBB Director was Richard M. Lobo. Mr. Lobo was appointed by President Barack Obama and confirmed by the Senate in September 2010.[ ] He retired in November 2013 being the longest-serving IBB Director.
Previously, the directorship was held by Seth Cropsey (December 9, 2002—2004). Appointed by the BBG, Brian Conniff served as acting director from April 1999 to December 2002. ] Joseph B. Bruns was the first director of IBB, he served from 1994 until 1995. Bruns previously had been Acting Associate Director of Broadcasting of USIA and Acting Director of VOA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Broadcasting_Bureau
10 March 2017 10:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so and then the next step was to emerge that...
" The BBG was eliminated and replaced with a single appointed chief executive officer as part of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2017, which was passed in December 2016
The Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) was an independent agency of the United States government.[ According to its website, its mission was to "inform, engage, and connect people around the world in support of freedom and democracy."[2] The BBG supervised Voice of America (VOA), Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, Radio y Television Marti, Radio Free Asia, and the Middle East Broadcast Networks.
//
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcasting_Board_of_Governors
www.bbg.gov
To look deeper in to backrounds:
The BBG was formed in 1994 with the passing of the International Broadcasting Act. The act established a bipartisan board that consisted of nine voting members, eight of whom were to be appointed by the President for a three year term. The ninth was the Secretary of State who would serve as an ex officio board member for the duration of his or her term as secretary.[7] At this point, BBG was considered a part of the U.S. Information Agency.
The first voting members of the BBG, confirmed on August 11, 1995, were David W. Burke, Ted Kaufman, Tom C. Korologos, Bette Bao Lord, Alberto J. Mora, Cheryl Halpern, Marc Nathanson, and Carl Spielvogel.
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On October 1, 1999, the BBG became an independent agency through the Foreign Affairs Reform and Restructuring Act.[9] Despite this change, the act maintained that the BBG would remain under the supervision of the Inspector General of the State Department and the Foreign Federal Security Service
As of June 2016, the board members were:[22]
Jeffrey Shell, chairman
Matthew Armstrong
Leon Aron
Ryan Crocker
Michael Kempner
Karen Kornbluh
John Kerry, ex-officio as Secretary of State
Kenneth R. Weinstein
Past members of the board have included:
Norman J. Pattiz[23] (May 2000 – March 2006)[24]
David W. Burke (August 1995 – 2002)
Ted Kaufman (August 1995 – December 2008)
Kenneth Y. Tomlinson August 2002 – [25]
Walter Isaacson (July 2010 – January 2012)
Dana Perino (July 2010 – December 2012)
Victor Ashe (June 2010 – 2013)
Michael Lynton (July 2010 – May 2013)
Susan McCue (July 2010 – May 2014
--
According to a 2016 fact-sheet, BBG had a weekly, unduplicated audience of 226 million people through television, radio, and internet media. BBG networks broadcast in 100 countries and 61 languages.
--
(budget now all smaller then before: $713 million (2013) including the International Broadcasting Bureau and the Broadcasting Board of Governors ... well, yes tec has become chaper really )
" The BBG was eliminated and replaced with a single appointed chief executive officer as part of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2017, which was passed in December 2016
The Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) was an independent agency of the United States government.[ According to its website, its mission was to "inform, engage, and connect people around the world in support of freedom and democracy."[2] The BBG supervised Voice of America (VOA), Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, Radio y Television Marti, Radio Free Asia, and the Middle East Broadcast Networks.
//
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcasting_Board_of_Governors
www.bbg.gov
To look deeper in to backrounds:
The BBG was formed in 1994 with the passing of the International Broadcasting Act. The act established a bipartisan board that consisted of nine voting members, eight of whom were to be appointed by the President for a three year term. The ninth was the Secretary of State who would serve as an ex officio board member for the duration of his or her term as secretary.[7] At this point, BBG was considered a part of the U.S. Information Agency.
The first voting members of the BBG, confirmed on August 11, 1995, were David W. Burke, Ted Kaufman, Tom C. Korologos, Bette Bao Lord, Alberto J. Mora, Cheryl Halpern, Marc Nathanson, and Carl Spielvogel.
--
On October 1, 1999, the BBG became an independent agency through the Foreign Affairs Reform and Restructuring Act.[9] Despite this change, the act maintained that the BBG would remain under the supervision of the Inspector General of the State Department and the Foreign Federal Security Service
As of June 2016, the board members were:[22]
Jeffrey Shell, chairman
Matthew Armstrong
Leon Aron
Ryan Crocker
Michael Kempner
Karen Kornbluh
John Kerry, ex-officio as Secretary of State
Kenneth R. Weinstein
Past members of the board have included:
Norman J. Pattiz[23] (May 2000 – March 2006)[24]
David W. Burke (August 1995 – 2002)
Ted Kaufman (August 1995 – December 2008)
Kenneth Y. Tomlinson August 2002 – [25]
Walter Isaacson (July 2010 – January 2012)
Dana Perino (July 2010 – December 2012)
Victor Ashe (June 2010 – 2013)
Michael Lynton (July 2010 – May 2013)
Susan McCue (July 2010 – May 2014
--
According to a 2016 fact-sheet, BBG had a weekly, unduplicated audience of 226 million people through television, radio, and internet media. BBG networks broadcast in 100 countries and 61 languages.
--
(budget now all smaller then before: $713 million (2013) including the International Broadcasting Bureau and the Broadcasting Board of Governors ... well, yes tec has become chaper really )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcasting_Board_of_Governors
10 March 2017 10:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Also,
Worldnet Television and Film Service was an American state-funded cable and satellite television channel directed to audiences outside of the United States. Its studios were located in Washington, D.C. It broadcast 24-hour-a-day.
Worldnet had the mission to show "a balanced and accurate picture of American society, policies, and people".
aunched 1983
Closed May 16, 2004 (merged to VOA)
Owned by Broadcasting
On September 11, 2001, Worldnet, Using Bloomberg Television, interrupted its regular programming on seven satellites to broadcast raw footage of terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington.
In 2002, Worldnet switched from an analog system to a digital one.
On May 16, 2004, Worldnet was merged into the Voice of America to reduce costs
Innit that so:
" The Smith–Mundt Act of 1948 restricted Worldnet to broadcast directly to American citizens. The intent of the legislation was to protect the American public from propaganda actions by its own government "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldnet_Television_and_Film_Service
www.ibb.gov/worldnet
Worldnet Television and Film Service was an American state-funded cable and satellite television channel directed to audiences outside of the United States. Its studios were located in Washington, D.C. It broadcast 24-hour-a-day.
Worldnet had the mission to show "a balanced and accurate picture of American society, policies, and people".
aunched 1983
Closed May 16, 2004 (merged to VOA)
Owned by Broadcasting
On September 11, 2001, Worldnet, Using Bloomberg Television, interrupted its regular programming on seven satellites to broadcast raw footage of terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington.
In 2002, Worldnet switched from an analog system to a digital one.
On May 16, 2004, Worldnet was merged into the Voice of America to reduce costs
Innit that so:
" The Smith–Mundt Act of 1948 restricted Worldnet to broadcast directly to American citizens. The intent of the legislation was to protect the American public from propaganda actions by its own government "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldnet_Television_and_Film_Service
www.ibb.gov/worldnet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldnet_Television_and_Film_Service
10 March 2017 10:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
the trick of communists is to trick a opponents behave as communists so they loose their credability while communists has laid many fictional and real foundations in all directions that will pick people up, "net them up" in desperation or in cofusion ... in sooo many ways..
as it is proper beast and half of your ovn work agianst you so..
(okey less then half.. but even much, Much less REALY know what they deal with and how to deal it..)
as it is proper beast and half of your ovn work agianst you so..
(okey less then half.. but even much, Much less REALY know what they deal with and how to deal it..)
10 March 2017 10:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Wonder do we know what that means and is it not loosing a focus now... after...
"The United States Information Agency was the largest full-service public relations organization in the world / At the time of its abolition, its budget was $1.109 billion. After reductions of staff in 1997, the agency had 6,352 employees,"
Full:
" The Foreign Affairs Reform and Restructuring Act of 1998, Division G of the Omnibus Consolidated and Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act, 1999, Pub.L. 105–277, 112 Stat. 2681-761, enacted October 21, 1998, abolished the U.S. Information Agency effective October 1, 1999, when its information (but not broadcasting) and exchange functions were folded into the Department of State under the newly created Under Secretary of State for Public Affairs and Public Diplomacy.
At the time of its abolition, its budget was $1.109 billion. After reductions of staff in 1997, the agency had 6,352 employees, of which almost half were civil service employees in the United States (2,521). About 1,800 of these employees worked in international broadcasting, while approximately 1,100 focused on the agency's educational and informational programs, such as the Fulbright program.[10] Foreign service officers were also a significant portion of the work force (about 1,000).
Broadcasting functions, including Voice of America, Radio and TV Marti as well as other U.S. government-supported broadcasting, such as Radio Free Europe (in Eastern Europe), Radio Free Asia and Radio Liberty (in the former Soviet Union), were consolidated as an independent entity under the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG), which continues independently (as a separate entity from the State Department) today. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Information_Agency
The United States Information Agency was the largest full-service public relations organization in the world, spending over $2 billion per year to highlight America’s view, while diminishing the Soviet’s side through about 150 different countries.[1]
Its stated goals were:
To explain and advocate U.S. policies in terms that are credible and meaningful in foreign cultures;
To provide information about the official policies of the United States, and about the people, values and institutions which influence those policies;
To bring the benefits of international engagement to American citizens and institutions by helping them build strong long-term relationships with their counterparts overseas;
To advise the President and U.S. government policy-makers on the ways in which foreign attitudes will have a direct bearing on the effectiveness of U.S. policies.[3]
Propaganda played a large role in how the United States was viewed by the world during the Cold War. American propagandists felt as though the Hollywood movie industry was destroying the image of the United States in other countries.[4] In response to the negative portrayal of America from communist propaganda the "USIA exist[ed] as much to provide a view of the world to the United States as it [did] to give the world a view of America".[5] The purpose of the USIA within the United States was to assure Americans that, "[t]he United States was working for a better world".[6] Abroad, the USIA aimed to preserve a positive image of America regardless of negative depictions from communist propaganda.
"The United States Information Agency was the largest full-service public relations organization in the world / At the time of its abolition, its budget was $1.109 billion. After reductions of staff in 1997, the agency had 6,352 employees,"
Full:
" The Foreign Affairs Reform and Restructuring Act of 1998, Division G of the Omnibus Consolidated and Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act, 1999, Pub.L. 105–277, 112 Stat. 2681-761, enacted October 21, 1998, abolished the U.S. Information Agency effective October 1, 1999, when its information (but not broadcasting) and exchange functions were folded into the Department of State under the newly created Under Secretary of State for Public Affairs and Public Diplomacy.
At the time of its abolition, its budget was $1.109 billion. After reductions of staff in 1997, the agency had 6,352 employees, of which almost half were civil service employees in the United States (2,521). About 1,800 of these employees worked in international broadcasting, while approximately 1,100 focused on the agency's educational and informational programs, such as the Fulbright program.[10] Foreign service officers were also a significant portion of the work force (about 1,000).
Broadcasting functions, including Voice of America, Radio and TV Marti as well as other U.S. government-supported broadcasting, such as Radio Free Europe (in Eastern Europe), Radio Free Asia and Radio Liberty (in the former Soviet Union), were consolidated as an independent entity under the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG), which continues independently (as a separate entity from the State Department) today. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Information_Agency
The United States Information Agency was the largest full-service public relations organization in the world, spending over $2 billion per year to highlight America’s view, while diminishing the Soviet’s side through about 150 different countries.[1]
Its stated goals were:
To explain and advocate U.S. policies in terms that are credible and meaningful in foreign cultures;
To provide information about the official policies of the United States, and about the people, values and institutions which influence those policies;
To bring the benefits of international engagement to American citizens and institutions by helping them build strong long-term relationships with their counterparts overseas;
To advise the President and U.S. government policy-makers on the ways in which foreign attitudes will have a direct bearing on the effectiveness of U.S. policies.[3]
Propaganda played a large role in how the United States was viewed by the world during the Cold War. American propagandists felt as though the Hollywood movie industry was destroying the image of the United States in other countries.[4] In response to the negative portrayal of America from communist propaganda the "USIA exist[ed] as much to provide a view of the world to the United States as it [did] to give the world a view of America".[5] The purpose of the USIA within the United States was to assure Americans that, "[t]he United States was working for a better world".[6] Abroad, the USIA aimed to preserve a positive image of America regardless of negative depictions from communist propaganda.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Information_Agency
10 March 2017 10:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Timeline:
The old building has been around since before the turn of the 20th Century and has survived two attempts at demolition. Here's a brief history of the building that has featured in many a story over the past week.
1899: The Old Post Office opened after seven years of construction. At the time of its opening the building actually was used as the city's post office. The Romanesque Revival designed by Willoughby J. Edbrooke provided at lot of "bests" and "firsts" for the cities. It had the largest uninterrupted enclosed space. It was the first building with its own included electrical wiring. It was also the first to have a steel frame structure. The 315 foot high clock tower remains the third tallest structure in downtown D.C.
1914: The D.C. General Post Office moved to a new location near Union Station and the building was converted entirely into office spaces for government agencies.
1926: The construction plans for Federal Triangle start to surface, which threaten the future of the Old Post Office Building.
1928: Construction begins on a circular plaza that would require the building's demolition.
1938: The final attempt for thirty years to level the building was finished. As the country sat in the middle of the Great Depression, more members of Congress deemed the move financially irresponsible.
1956: The large weight attached to the cable of the clock in the tower came loose and went through two stories. This led to the mechanical clock being replaced with an electric clock.
1970: A new plan to demolish the building was backed by the National Capital Planning Commission who said that only the clock tower should remain.
1971: The predecessors of the D.C. Preservation League calling themselves "Don't Tear It Down" protested the building's demolition. One of the leaders of this movement was Nancy Hanks, the chairwoman for the National Endowment of the Arts.
1973: After years of fighting the Nixon administration regarding its demolition, the Old Post Office was placed on the National Register of Historic Places.
1976: The Congress Bells which now reside in the clock tower are presented as a gift by The Ditchley Foundation of Great Britain for America's Bicentennial celebration.
1977: The building undergoes the first of two renovations. The first cost $18 million. The second cost $29 million.
1983: The building reopened and the retail portion was named the Nancy Hanks Center in honor of the woman who fought to preserve it. Hanks had died a few weeks prior to the reopening.
1986: Congress passes legislature that renames the entire building the Nancy Hanks Center.
1992: An expansion on the building called the East Atrium opens.
2008: D.C. Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton introduces the Old Post Office Development Act. This required the General Services Administration to develop the Old Post Office.
2013: The Trump Organization signed a 60 year lease from the Federal Government for the renovation of the Old Post Office into their newest Trump International Hotel.
http://dc.curbed.com/2013/9/18/10196536/a-history-of-resilience-the-old-post-office
The old building has been around since before the turn of the 20th Century and has survived two attempts at demolition. Here's a brief history of the building that has featured in many a story over the past week.
1899: The Old Post Office opened after seven years of construction. At the time of its opening the building actually was used as the city's post office. The Romanesque Revival designed by Willoughby J. Edbrooke provided at lot of "bests" and "firsts" for the cities. It had the largest uninterrupted enclosed space. It was the first building with its own included electrical wiring. It was also the first to have a steel frame structure. The 315 foot high clock tower remains the third tallest structure in downtown D.C.
1914: The D.C. General Post Office moved to a new location near Union Station and the building was converted entirely into office spaces for government agencies.
1926: The construction plans for Federal Triangle start to surface, which threaten the future of the Old Post Office Building.
1928: Construction begins on a circular plaza that would require the building's demolition.
1938: The final attempt for thirty years to level the building was finished. As the country sat in the middle of the Great Depression, more members of Congress deemed the move financially irresponsible.
1956: The large weight attached to the cable of the clock in the tower came loose and went through two stories. This led to the mechanical clock being replaced with an electric clock.
1970: A new plan to demolish the building was backed by the National Capital Planning Commission who said that only the clock tower should remain.
1971: The predecessors of the D.C. Preservation League calling themselves "Don't Tear It Down" protested the building's demolition. One of the leaders of this movement was Nancy Hanks, the chairwoman for the National Endowment of the Arts.
1973: After years of fighting the Nixon administration regarding its demolition, the Old Post Office was placed on the National Register of Historic Places.
1976: The Congress Bells which now reside in the clock tower are presented as a gift by The Ditchley Foundation of Great Britain for America's Bicentennial celebration.
1977: The building undergoes the first of two renovations. The first cost $18 million. The second cost $29 million.
1983: The building reopened and the retail portion was named the Nancy Hanks Center in honor of the woman who fought to preserve it. Hanks had died a few weeks prior to the reopening.
1986: Congress passes legislature that renames the entire building the Nancy Hanks Center.
1992: An expansion on the building called the East Atrium opens.
2008: D.C. Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton introduces the Old Post Office Development Act. This required the General Services Administration to develop the Old Post Office.
2013: The Trump Organization signed a 60 year lease from the Federal Government for the renovation of the Old Post Office into their newest Trump International Hotel.
http://dc.curbed.com/2013/9/18/10196536/a-history-of-resilience-the-old-post-office
http://dc.curbed.com/2013/9/18/10196536/a-history-of-resilience-the-old-post-office
10 March 2017 10:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oh, okey
" As if restoring the Old Post Office were not enough, the Trumps also have their eyes on the Federal Bureau of Investigation building a block away, on the opposite side of Pennsylvania Avenue.
The General Services Administration is looking to turn over the Brutalist building to a developer in return for land elsewhere in the area on which to build a new F.B.I. headquarters.
“We’ve been looking at that closely,” Ms. Trump said. “Our first priority is the Old Post Office, but there is tremendous potential with the F.B.I. ”
Okey... but Modernist, really ?
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/28/realestate/commercial/finally-washingtons-old-post-office-gets-a-new-life.html
" As if restoring the Old Post Office were not enough, the Trumps also have their eyes on the Federal Bureau of Investigation building a block away, on the opposite side of Pennsylvania Avenue.
The General Services Administration is looking to turn over the Brutalist building to a developer in return for land elsewhere in the area on which to build a new F.B.I. headquarters.
“We’ve been looking at that closely,” Ms. Trump said. “Our first priority is the Old Post Office, but there is tremendous potential with the F.B.I. ”
Okey... but Modernist, really ?
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/28/realestate/commercial/finally-washingtons-old-post-office-gets-a-new-life.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/28/realestate/commercial/finally-washingtons-old-post-office-gets-a-new-life.html
10 March 2017 10:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and Eisenhower Executive Office Building , Old Executive Office Building (OEOB) and even earlier as the State, War, and Navy Building
also looks alright,
Architect Alfred B. Mullett
Architectural style French Second Empire
Post office still top's it all for now. remeberence of ages before USA was...
how did we evolve back from it, people have now more money, we got more archdects and possibility to share, evolve desings betterthen ever... and instead we build boxes..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenhower_Executive_Office_Building
also looks alright,
Architect Alfred B. Mullett
Architectural style French Second Empire
Post office still top's it all for now. remeberence of ages before USA was...
how did we evolve back from it, people have now more money, we got more archdects and possibility to share, evolve desings betterthen ever... and instead we build boxes..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenhower_Executive_Office_Building
10 March 2017 10:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Old Post Office Pavilion
Architect Willoughby J. Edbrooke (original building)
Karn Charuhas Chapman & Twohey (East Atrium)
Architectural style: Romanesque Revival (original building)
Modernist (East Atrium)
FBI – Federal Bureau of Investigation had great drop of archdectural spirituallity and style with this one.. entering to brutalist.. .
"Beginning in 1951, the office was on the fourth and fifth floors of the Old Post Office Pavilion, two blocks down Pennsylvania Avenue from the Department of Justice. WFO remained in the Pavilion until 1977. " ...no property proper images or history, why?
seems Trump did something great with it at least,
kind of
"Trump developed the property into a luxury hotel, Trump International Hotel Washington, D.C. which opened in September 2016"
not that he had to do anything with original plans but..
"The building is an example of Richardsonian Romanesque, part of the Romanesque Revival architecture of the nineteenth century United States."
at least he did not demolish it, as it has been attempt by communists so long time, for a reason to remove symbols of greateness, higherthinking and beauty from future box land
Looked great on 1911 also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Post_Office_Pavilion#/media/File:Old_Post_Office_Pavilion,_1911.jpg
building next to it as well,, why it can not be (syle next to it, some kind of minimum standard? No law for beauty or nothing.. retarded really.. )
Architect Willoughby J. Edbrooke (original building)
Karn Charuhas Chapman & Twohey (East Atrium)
Architectural style: Romanesque Revival (original building)
Modernist (East Atrium)
FBI – Federal Bureau of Investigation had great drop of archdectural spirituallity and style with this one.. entering to brutalist.. .
"Beginning in 1951, the office was on the fourth and fifth floors of the Old Post Office Pavilion, two blocks down Pennsylvania Avenue from the Department of Justice. WFO remained in the Pavilion until 1977. " ...no property proper images or history, why?
seems Trump did something great with it at least,
kind of
"Trump developed the property into a luxury hotel, Trump International Hotel Washington, D.C. which opened in September 2016"
not that he had to do anything with original plans but..
"The building is an example of Richardsonian Romanesque, part of the Romanesque Revival architecture of the nineteenth century United States."
at least he did not demolish it, as it has been attempt by communists so long time, for a reason to remove symbols of greateness, higherthinking and beauty from future box land
Looked great on 1911 also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Post_Office_Pavilion#/media/File:Old_Post_Office_Pavilion,_1911.jpg
building next to it as well,, why it can not be (syle next to it, some kind of minimum standard? No law for beauty or nothing.. retarded really.. )
10 March 2017 10:16
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10 March 2017 09:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
few mentions more about Harrison & Abramovitz, as i shouted out so badly at them... for boxes, well, the third founder,
Fouilhoux not sure for what extent, but he worked on American Radiator Building ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Radiator_Building#/media/File:NYC_-_American_Radiator_Building.jpg ) and Scranton Cultural Center Masonic Hall..
But yea, the Radiator Building looks worth, so they got some nice minds there also
and near 100 years it is still looking great,
or how ever it looked first... compared to the... well.. last mans work on jewish center, i mean reformed judaism.. i guess they deserve building like that
Fouilhoux not sure for what extent, but he worked on American Radiator Building ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Radiator_Building#/media/File:NYC_-_American_Radiator_Building.jpg ) and Scranton Cultural Center Masonic Hall..
But yea, the Radiator Building looks worth, so they got some nice minds there also
and near 100 years it is still looking great,
or how ever it looked first... compared to the... well.. last mans work on jewish center, i mean reformed judaism.. i guess they deserve building like that
10 March 2017 09:52
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So generally would be important,
for me to think about peoples work and doings their full political and relgious profile, but for the mostly box builders,
from mentioned Harrison & Abramovitz main people, like Max Abramovitz, J. André Fouilhoux, Wallace Harrison.. ( mostly rocafeller and UN building boxes.. ) in wikipedia people seem not to be important to mention these kind of things.. so this is why the another base i wanna do, is important, for humans profiling, for all kind of meta data.. it helps a lot to make bigger vizualization about group of people work and relations, to see the true metadata of coziety changers.
for a moment, Abramovitz work:
Temple Beth Zion, Reform Judaism building:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Beth_Zion_%28Buffalo,_New_York%29#/media/File:Temple_Beth_Zion.jpg - ARE You serious??? Is that like revange or something? Did not figure out how ugly (besides everything else) this dirty walls will startto look?
OMG,
look at that one: Learning Research and Development Center : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_Research_and_Development_Center#/media/File:Learning_Research_and_Development_Center,_Pitt.jpg Do humannity really need THIS kind of innovation ???
Whorst jet, people go to this building becouse it is : " nterdisciplinary center focused on describing, understanding, improving, and researching various aspects of human cognition, learning in order to improve and reform instruction and training in schools, the workplace, and informal environments. "
this is sad be on words, really. Can not imagine what kind of communist, soziologizt, cosipaths, new left run that directions there even whit our looking it to it.
OKey, maybe not so bad as it is from U.S. Office of Education and
for me to think about peoples work and doings their full political and relgious profile, but for the mostly box builders,
from mentioned Harrison & Abramovitz main people, like Max Abramovitz, J. André Fouilhoux, Wallace Harrison.. ( mostly rocafeller and UN building boxes.. ) in wikipedia people seem not to be important to mention these kind of things.. so this is why the another base i wanna do, is important, for humans profiling, for all kind of meta data.. it helps a lot to make bigger vizualization about group of people work and relations, to see the true metadata of coziety changers.
for a moment, Abramovitz work:
Temple Beth Zion, Reform Judaism building:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Beth_Zion_%28Buffalo,_New_York%29#/media/File:Temple_Beth_Zion.jpg - ARE You serious??? Is that like revange or something? Did not figure out how ugly (besides everything else) this dirty walls will startto look?
OMG,
look at that one: Learning Research and Development Center : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_Research_and_Development_Center#/media/File:Learning_Research_and_Development_Center,_Pitt.jpg Do humannity really need THIS kind of innovation ???
Whorst jet, people go to this building becouse it is : " nterdisciplinary center focused on describing, understanding, improving, and researching various aspects of human cognition, learning in order to improve and reform instruction and training in schools, the workplace, and informal environments. "
this is sad be on words, really. Can not imagine what kind of communist, soziologizt, cosipaths, new left run that directions there even whit our looking it to it.
OKey, maybe not so bad as it is from U.S. Office of Education and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Beth_Zion_%28Buffalo,_New_York%29#/media/File:Temple_Beth_Zion.jpg
10 March 2017 08:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
anyway, back to Boxes and moder archtecture,
mean time the Jean-François Lyotard come to my eye, to equal out the Fredric Jameson mentioned before, a bit,
also touching the language games is on place, .. anyway where was we, lets take look how great the CIA building looks:
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Original Bulders: Harrison & Abramovitz ... so no wonder..
// terrible innovations examples:
"best known for modernist corporate towers on the East coast and Midwestern cities. Most are straightforward. One notable stylistic innovation was the use of stamped metal panels on the facade, first at the 1953
Alcoa Building in Pittsburgh, and repeated at the 1953
Republic Center Tower I in Dallas and the 1956 former
Socony-Mobil Building at in New York City.
Empire State Plaza (Governor Nelson A. Rockefeller Empire State Plaza)
// ... no need to go further then this... i guess they all like that.
So they call SmithGroupJJR to expand their building.. and i guess pre-work wasso terrible, and people so boxed already, that instead of tearing it down and let Smith group rebuild it all, they just had to adobt...
examples of their normal works:
SmithGroupJJR (1853)
"along with Luckett and Farley, is the longest continually operating architecture and engineering firm in the United States that is not a wholly owned subsidiary "
//just by names u can say their selection of works.. and style.
Works:
Central United Methodist Church (1866) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_United_Methodist_Church_%28Detroit%29#/media/File:Central_United_Methodist_Church_-_Detroit_Michigan.jpg )
Detroit Opera House (1868) ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Opera_House#/media/File:Merrill_Humane_Fountain_-_4a09029u.jpg ... but some new "innovators" turned this in to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Opera_House#/media/File:Detroit_Opera_House_with_trees.jpg .... NOT joking...)
Ford Piquette Avenue Plant (1904) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Piquette_Avenue_Plant#/media/File:Fordpiquetteplant.jpg)
Newer ones from JJR:
Museum of the Bible (2017) (well, still alright but a bit boxed selection was probabaly from original desing they had to adobt to.. http://www.smithgroupjjr.com/projects/museum-of-the-bible)
...as with International Spy Museum 2012 they did much better work.. so why so modern for bible.. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Spy_Museum#/media/File:International_Spy_Museum_-_2012.jpg)
UIUC Engineering Campus (2014 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UIUC_Engineering_Campus#/media/File:UIUC_Bardeen_Quad.jpg )
Brock Environmental Center(2014) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brock_Environmental_Center#/media/File:Brock_Environmental_Center.jpg)
I guess same was the requirements for
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Intelligence_Agency_Headquarters#/media/File:Bird%27s_eye_view_of_the_Defense_Intelligence_Agency_%28DIA%29_Headquarters_from_Potomac,_Washington_DC.jpg
not to much beauty allowed... and then try hard to get some inntelligence out from buildings that are spiritually dead. It is so much harder work u know, do you ?
mean time the Jean-François Lyotard come to my eye, to equal out the Fredric Jameson mentioned before, a bit,
also touching the language games is on place, .. anyway where was we, lets take look how great the CIA building looks:
--
Original Bulders: Harrison & Abramovitz ... so no wonder..
// terrible innovations examples:
"best known for modernist corporate towers on the East coast and Midwestern cities. Most are straightforward. One notable stylistic innovation was the use of stamped metal panels on the facade, first at the 1953
Alcoa Building in Pittsburgh, and repeated at the 1953
Republic Center Tower I in Dallas and the 1956 former
Socony-Mobil Building at in New York City.
Empire State Plaza (Governor Nelson A. Rockefeller Empire State Plaza)
// ... no need to go further then this... i guess they all like that.
So they call SmithGroupJJR to expand their building.. and i guess pre-work wasso terrible, and people so boxed already, that instead of tearing it down and let Smith group rebuild it all, they just had to adobt...
examples of their normal works:
SmithGroupJJR (1853)
"along with Luckett and Farley, is the longest continually operating architecture and engineering firm in the United States that is not a wholly owned subsidiary "
//just by names u can say their selection of works.. and style.
Works:
Central United Methodist Church (1866) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_United_Methodist_Church_%28Detroit%29#/media/File:Central_United_Methodist_Church_-_Detroit_Michigan.jpg )
Detroit Opera House (1868) ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Opera_House#/media/File:Merrill_Humane_Fountain_-_4a09029u.jpg ... but some new "innovators" turned this in to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Opera_House#/media/File:Detroit_Opera_House_with_trees.jpg .... NOT joking...)
Ford Piquette Avenue Plant (1904) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Piquette_Avenue_Plant#/media/File:Fordpiquetteplant.jpg)
Newer ones from JJR:
Museum of the Bible (2017) (well, still alright but a bit boxed selection was probabaly from original desing they had to adobt to.. http://www.smithgroupjjr.com/projects/museum-of-the-bible)
...as with International Spy Museum 2012 they did much better work.. so why so modern for bible.. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Spy_Museum#/media/File:International_Spy_Museum_-_2012.jpg)
UIUC Engineering Campus (2014 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UIUC_Engineering_Campus#/media/File:UIUC_Bardeen_Quad.jpg )
Brock Environmental Center(2014) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brock_Environmental_Center#/media/File:Brock_Environmental_Center.jpg)
I guess same was the requirements for
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Intelligence_Agency_Headquarters#/media/File:Bird%27s_eye_view_of_the_Defense_Intelligence_Agency_%28DIA%29_Headquarters_from_Potomac,_Washington_DC.jpg
not to much beauty allowed... and then try hard to get some inntelligence out from buildings that are spiritually dead. It is so much harder work u know, do you ?
10 March 2017 07:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
the contrast of images, fore and backround is priceless, specially considering it is in Estonia.. land of wooden ANTI-boxed triangle shaped roofs people country...
http://nipiraamat.ohtuleht.ee/733404/peeter-jalaka-mereaarne-talu
https://uk.pinterest.com/pin/33777065930343622/
// hey Sir.. what Yu mean it means, that they wanna keep it.. what is the medicine.
(The British architectural historian)
Sir Nikolaus Bernhard Leon Pevsner : "To me what had been achieved in 1914 was the style of the century. It never occurred to me to look beyond. Here was the one and only style which fitted all those aspects which mattered, aspects of economics and sociology, of materials and function. It seems folly to think that anybody would wish to abandon it."
... besides top of that "Many Modernists disliked the term, believing that they had arrived at an approach to architecture that transcended "style", along with any national or regional or continental identity "
Tähelaev: Peeter Jalakas (Talupildist)
https://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/tahelaev-peeter-jalakas
"Tal on kogu aeg seitse rauda tules. Ta teeb palju, aga rääkida sellest ei armasta. Tähelaeva stuudios on teatrijuht, ärimees, poliitik, lavastaja ja teatriuuendaja Peeter Jalakas "
https://www.google.ee/search?lr=&biw=1366&bih=616&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=+talu+OR+puumaja&oq=+talu+OR+puumaja
http://nipiraamat.ohtuleht.ee/733404/peeter-jalaka-mereaarne-talu
https://uk.pinterest.com/pin/33777065930343622/
// hey Sir.. what Yu mean it means, that they wanna keep it.. what is the medicine.
(The British architectural historian)
Sir Nikolaus Bernhard Leon Pevsner : "To me what had been achieved in 1914 was the style of the century. It never occurred to me to look beyond. Here was the one and only style which fitted all those aspects which mattered, aspects of economics and sociology, of materials and function. It seems folly to think that anybody would wish to abandon it."
... besides top of that "Many Modernists disliked the term, believing that they had arrived at an approach to architecture that transcended "style", along with any national or regional or continental identity "
Tähelaev: Peeter Jalakas (Talupildist)
https://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/tahelaev-peeter-jalakas
"Tal on kogu aeg seitse rauda tules. Ta teeb palju, aga rääkida sellest ei armasta. Tähelaeva stuudios on teatrijuht, ärimees, poliitik, lavastaja ja teatriuuendaja Peeter Jalakas "
https://www.google.ee/search?lr=&biw=1366&bih=616&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=+talu+OR+puumaja&oq=+talu+OR+puumaja
10 March 2017 07:04
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10 March 2017 06:46
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10 March 2017 06:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Building from behind still looks ..
Okey, stil better then office building i agree,
but still.. what You try to say with your building is also, in highest level of what You try to archive..
it is strong symbol as well and people minds who work in it as well, will get adobted to a symbolizm and as esteric new agers would say energy of it all..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIS_Building#/media/File:MI6BuildingVauxhall.jpg
Okey, stil better then office building i agree,
but still.. what You try to say with your building is also, in highest level of what You try to archive..
it is strong symbol as well and people minds who work in it as well, will get adobted to a symbolizm and as esteric new agers would say energy of it all..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIS_Building#/media/File:MI6BuildingVauxhall.jpg
10 March 2017 06:36
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10 March 2017 06:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The music
" Zack Hemsey - See what I´ve become "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UeA9Nus9Eg&list=RDyDsWPo4ONpo&index=6 maybe a stop more powerful from it, in stronger tones giving what is needed, but this is a bit vider, softer, femine, .. perhaps something more on parallel road what was intented to..
" Zack Hemsey - See what I´ve become "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UeA9Nus9Eg&list=RDyDsWPo4ONpo&index=6 maybe a stop more powerful from it, in stronger tones giving what is needed, but this is a bit vider, softer, femine, .. perhaps something more on parallel road what was intented to..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UeA9Nus9Eg&list=RDyDsWPo4ONpo&index=6
10 March 2017 06:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so fb banned me a day from FB posting (even liking with account closure warning, becouse of the erotic nipple picture (okey man was probabaly "eating her" as well, but this was not graphic)) but is okey to share she most massive porndatabase website links with direct hardocre videos besides that.. well, not that i am complaining about last part but still..
10 March 2017 05:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
what can i say, u americans are romantically too naive :p
10 March 2017 05:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
they call it antisocial in "new estonia" and .. what is this word for a person not having anything in political terms.. kind of forget, also in my ovn lang :D
poor simply, .. but in negative way, like mixture of handicapped and mentally retarded and.. hmm..what is this word..
poor simply, .. but in negative way, like mixture of handicapped and mentally retarded and.. hmm..what is this word..
10 March 2017 05:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aww, u think?
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bdw, the book, at table, nice one:
https://www.amazon.com/Shamans-Coat-Native-History-Siberia/dp/0802776760
Highly reccomended to the ones who still wonder.. what was up with a Soviet Union... in illusion....maybe they are to much u know.. patrionized.
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bdw, the book, at table, nice one:
https://www.amazon.com/Shamans-Coat-Native-History-Siberia/dp/0802776760
Highly reccomended to the ones who still wonder.. what was up with a Soviet Union... in illusion....maybe they are to much u know.. patrionized.
https://www.amazon.com/Shamans-Coat-Native-History-Siberia/dp/0802776760
10 March 2017 05:07
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10 March 2017 04:52
Margus Meigo replied to Ron Dredge's comment.
yeah they told me that in mali when borderguard Rob us by saving us from another robbers,
and when we did not agree with a this kind of treatement as europeans, they remind us that if we like we can take hike on offroad (besides on borders they wuld not let us go on road up to naother point... they have like 3 levels of borders + some fake ones between mali and mauritania..), as on road they can not guarantee that the anotherone will not get us again (weeks after entire frensh family was murdered on road by road robbers).. but off_road, we have to takein account small thing , that it is .. .the small thing thatthere is landmines...
and when we did not agree with a this kind of treatement as europeans, they remind us that if we like we can take hike on offroad (besides on borders they wuld not let us go on road up to naother point... they have like 3 levels of borders + some fake ones between mali and mauritania..), as on road they can not guarantee that the anotherone will not get us again (weeks after entire frensh family was murdered on road by road robbers).. but off_road, we have to takein account small thing , that it is .. .the small thing thatthere is landmines...
10 March 2017 04:50
Margus Meigo replied to Michael Johnston's comment.
hha.. good one :p
But now days, everyday when someone talks about Pizza.. then this unUndersdood storys come on to mind.. about PizzaGate .. what a f is it really about victuruslibertas.com/2017/02/exclusive_interview_with_dhs_insider/ (this is pro trump article still but even considering that, one can read between the lines... what kind of man would hold "cards" in hand to use them against.. instead going full mental directly about anyone against who one has any informaiton like that..)
But now days, everyday when someone talks about Pizza.. then this unUndersdood storys come on to mind.. about PizzaGate .. what a f is it really about victuruslibertas.com/2017/02/exclusive_interview_with_dhs_insider/ (this is pro trump article still but even considering that, one can read between the lines... what kind of man would hold "cards" in hand to use them against.. instead going full mental directly about anyone against who one has any informaiton like that..)
http://victuruslibertas.com/2017/02/exclusive_interview_with_dhs_insider/
10 March 2017 04:47
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
10 March 2017 04:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" so You guys from Texas? "
:D
:D
10 March 2017 04:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
even the guy on left, is like "i try to keep poker faceto not show my not understanding anything what is going on"
// "they did not know how to make fireworks.. or ... they even did not know how to dial on thelephone" xD :D xD
priceless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEuKiqnnOPM
// "they did not know how to make fireworks.. or ... they even did not know how to dial on thelephone" xD :D xD
priceless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEuKiqnnOPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEuKiqnnOPM
10 March 2017 04:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hahaha, the Interview ?
10 March 2017 04:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but i can see transaction somewhere between here, to make it belivable
Nuclear Assault - Critical Mass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7wntm7QVXQ
// "bring on the Acid rain" still kind of iff'i.. if it is what it can be..
Nuclear Assault - Critical Mass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7wntm7QVXQ
// "bring on the Acid rain" still kind of iff'i.. if it is what it can be..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7wntm7QVXQ
10 March 2017 04:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ended up on them while lookin religious metal history, from Larry Norman to Critical Mass (Catolic metal, for religious eason) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDsWPo4ONpo (if it is really them they have evolved from .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBYYR4bGZ64 a lot... )
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" Critical Mass is a Canadian Christian rock music group from Waterloo Region. The band is heavily influenced by its Catholic roots. "
"Critical Mass started in 1997 by David Wang as a way to introduce Catholic youth to contemporary Christian music. Initially the group focused on leading worship at youth events and Masses"
Well, also from Canada, as B O Surfers, and Terence and Philip and..
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" Critical Mass is a Canadian Christian rock music group from Waterloo Region. The band is heavily influenced by its Catholic roots. "
"Critical Mass started in 1997 by David Wang as a way to introduce Catholic youth to contemporary Christian music. Initially the group focused on leading worship at youth events and Masses"
Well, also from Canada, as B O Surfers, and Terence and Philip and..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDsWPo4ONpo
10 March 2017 04:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
:p
louisiana red - i'm too poor to die 7''
sounds my kind of headline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWd9LfvStW8
louisiana red - i'm too poor to die 7''
sounds my kind of headline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWd9LfvStW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWd9LfvStW8
10 March 2017 04:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i thought there is new wave of Za's in Us, what i not know abou and they eating up all pizzas
in some place like Wicita
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzXZSCNjbgQ
(discovered this place thanks to Isabel Baker )
in some place like Wicita
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzXZSCNjbgQ
(discovered this place thanks to Isabel Baker )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzXZSCNjbgQ
10 March 2017 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ooh, fail
10 March 2017 04:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
is the z comes from Zulus?
10 March 2017 03:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i just got my italian dish cooked in estonian way what will be eaten asian way, ready
10 March 2017 03:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ooh as i felt.. http://www.sahistory.org.za/people/nelson-rolihlahla-mandela
http://www.sahistory.org.za/people/nelson-rolihlahla-mandela
10 March 2017 03:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Za ?
10 March 2017 03:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mmm.. pizza... strange, in amrica pizza is considered like poor people food, in here, we get it, when we like got money more, it is like thing u can not waste money to much as u know.. it cost a lot. even for richer people in a way.
(then again, looking, that it costs, one pizza... proper one 3 hours work, maybe not so expensive.. but still.. u got extra billz...)
(then again, looking, that it costs, one pizza... proper one 3 hours work, maybe not so expensive.. but still.. u got extra billz...)
10 March 2017 03:20
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
not that it would be general qualificatin
(all u 20y teenager computer players in home who father is pizzaman...)
(all u 20y teenager computer players in home who father is pizzaman...)
10 March 2017 03:19
Margus Meigo replied to Kersti Paldrok's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
muidugi eksalati riolukordi kus osad on rohkem sihtmärgid ku iteised ja osade andmistele paha poolt antakse rohkem andaks ja läbi sõrmede vaadatakse aga teise omale meelega rehasi rohkem ette pannakse ka.. eks siin suuri valitsusi ja suuri plaane ilmaelus mida ei tasu alahinnata ja ülelia lihtsustada, ... kuigi eks lihtsuses peitu jõud ja tõepoolest, ebavajllikusttuleb loobuda sest saad aru, et see niii sulle kui ilmale ebavajalik ja ...head tuleb teha sellepärast, et saad aru, et see on hea10 March 2017 03:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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..mõtestatult ka... enne võid veel peas vett laadida, et see puhastav ja hea maagiline vesi mis aitab ja suunab ja ebavalikkku phstab ja eriti peen tasemetel.. jne.. mõistuse piires kuid võlujõudu uskudes ja siis sellist urvalist rituaali teed... ära igast katlaste kivikeste ja asjade põletmaiste, jms rituaalidesse väga astu.. mine tea mida neist tule... kuid vesi kõige turvalisem, seda koos su enda positiivse motte ja sooviga nad eriti lihtsalt millegiks muuks manipuleerida ei saa
suurem osa jõudu ja väge peitud lihtsates asjades, lihtsuses10 March 2017 03:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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(kuigi mingisugunegi vesi on ikka parem kui üldse mitte)10 March 2017 03:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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ja ära needuse asja uskuma hakka ni naljalt, need suures mottes pea kõigil peal nagunii kes head,
eriti kui nad ärkama hakkavad ja tahavad paremakssaada ja ei paha pealiskaudselt lolli kaasa mängida enam, ... siis veeleriti.. kui vales külas nö ole,d et oled enda ümber lasknud kasvada inimesed kes pole viamupuhtad ja on riiki ja kogu suurt ilma mahategevas meeleolus.
ketravad üksteisevõidu kuidas see ja teine halb aga ise joovad paha endale sisse ja ei usu täis aususessegi.
ja sis vanutavad teised.. et neid ikka alati korrale too peenelt või karmilt kui rusikat on.
kuid jah, osa kollitamise ja paha vaimu peale panemise asjade nippe ongi järkjärgult uskuma panna sind , peenete pahade ja valu tegemistega, osadel hirmutamisega, koputused aknale või osalt kes juba kodu sisse pääseb teisipidi siis tunnetust anda sääl...
et nagu jah, siis kui inimene ise uskuma hakkab et ta lootusetus ja paha peale pantud siis pahal veelrohkem võimu tihti...
Kuid soovitan selle selja sirgu anda.. tee kasvõi rituaali kus iga päev kolm pange külma vett kaela kallad endale selja sirgu lyyes, et HEY pesen ebavajaliku maha ja võtan päeva vastu!
Ja kindlasti homikul tee rituaalselt korraliklt vodi ka ära, see märk, päeva alguseks, et millegiga oled hakkama saanud, õigesti tenud ja aitab mõtted hetkeks õiges suunas sättida..
muidu voodist niisama prauhti üles ka karata ei tasu... vaid ikka mõttega rahulikult miks seekord tõused...
ja nu paar aastat kui hästi läheb ja siis peakski juba enamus maha raputatud oema ja vaimset jõudu enda ümber kogutud olema.. kuna töömes paistad ka siis sul kergem ku iasja käsile võtad.
Muidugi vtt pähe kallata kes 3 aastat jaksab.. (kes jaksab hauani saab ikka eriti virksaks) kuid proovi nädalakegi, vata kas annab sellist ärksust ja jõudu, ja vata, et ikka jahe vesi oleks!10 March 2017 03:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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suitsust ei hakka üldse rääkimagi, see tänapäva filtriga suitsudon paras hingehukatus ja hoiab võäga kõges peenes tasemes kinni valedest filosoofiatest ja plkokeerib ka südamearmastust.. ja paras hingemürk.. kuid sa vist suitsu ei tee, välimuse järgi ei tundu selline inimene olema kes naturalselt suitsu naudiks10 March 2017 03:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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välimuselt tundud heast seemnest pärit mees olema, kuid alkohol, ja üleliigne rämpsusöömine kindlasti jäta maha, sest see pole heade inimestele mõeldud, see neile südamevalu, pealiskaudseid kibestusi ja muud häda toob, tiri ligi ka valesi ineimsi kes vale nõu sulleannab ja su heasse sydamesse okkaid torkab10 March 2017 03:02
Margus Meigo commented on Us Virgo's post.
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Tihtipeale ka sedasi, et kui sa mingis osas eriti hea või vajaliku verega, ajaloo või mineviku, tuleviku potensiaaliga inimene või su lastel mingi vajalikus tähtde järgi... või ise suurt head teed liiga radikalselt selle lieraalse kurjade silmis,..siis sulle ka järjepanu pannakse raskusi ja likvideeritakse kõik viimnegi mis sul olla saab... enamasti muidugi eelkõige saavad nad likvideerida selle mis ei ole otse healt ja läbi hea omandi.. (eelkõige töökohad, suhted kus väiksemgi viga või patt mida su vastu kasutada saab, finants, ja aegajalt kui hooletusse lased siis proovivadka tervise või füüüsilise keha kallaler tulla.... kuid peab otimismi ja usku hoidma, et kunagi liiga palju sind enamasti see kõige suurem parem jõud ei lase rünnata ja kui isegi pätile siin ilmas alati üks päästetee antakse kes usub natukenegi,siis alati ka sul peab olema, alati mingi päästetee järgmise palgiljupile hypates selles meres.. et päev päevast edasi saada ja tänulik olla kõige väikse eest mis meil on,
et ellu jäime... sest ega kui sa head teed ja ausust räägib, siis olles eri maaimades, ei tasu loota, et sellest asjad paremaks lähvad, kuid KINDLAT ei tasu kunagi oma teguviisi heasse uskumises muuta .. sest see nagu nö treening ka ja test mitmetpidi ja kool.. et kas vastu pead ja õigeks jääd.. osad valitakse lihtsalt raskema kooli jaoks välja, isegi kui see ebaõigetundub... aga liituma peab ja otisma neid väeseid päris puhtaid ja poolpuhastest kes osatigi head vahest, neid hoida tasakaalus ja äärepeal, enda ligi ka vast, et edasi saaks järgmise palgini paremuse ja hea poole.. ja jäta maha endast alati puhtus ja lillemeri ja head sõnad ja ku ihead sõnu ei saa jagada siis targad sõnad))10 March 2017 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but what is good, that You can enter to full screen for free, so .. considering we not pay a dime for other people work and siritual exploration, explotation and top of that all the server and data that someone have to pay for.. well, in the end it is a kind of good deal but still,
long years, 10 or so more, years old idea with one women was to still produce this perfect nice site, with directive erotic and self collection of healthier videos, that do not disrupt the mind so much, kind of like this SinfulSenses video series:
pornhub. com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5824a476b5246
long years, 10 or so more, years old idea with one women was to still produce this perfect nice site, with directive erotic and self collection of healthier videos, that do not disrupt the mind so much, kind of like this SinfulSenses video series:
pornhub. com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5824a476b5246
8 March 2017 05:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
wonder, how 50 years from now these things will look, will we evolve to cleanes, softnes, niceness eortic, senual direction, with round corners, calm mind, health direction reccomendation in generally considered spiritually unhealthy places ... or will it be like some flashing advertisment board and popup sea that will give you a seazure before an orgazm
8 March 2017 05:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i mean, the unatractive ad under the video is already enough,
whywould people need to see some...
well some other examples more but they to bad to even to repost.
just now noticed the bottom of the video, wish i would have scroll that up
and hey.. i got AD blocker on, i guess it did not work wonder what the other 7 thins are that he did block, looking from the icon. )
whywould people need to see some...
well some other examples more but they to bad to even to repost.
just now noticed the bottom of the video, wish i would have scroll that up
and hey.. i got AD blocker on, i guess it did not work wonder what the other 7 thins are that he did block, looking from the icon. )
8 March 2017 05:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
8 March 2017 05:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i mean also in here, in FB, first link is .. not from tat site.
Interesting still
Interesting still
8 March 2017 05:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
8 March 2017 05:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
would be nice if they add more sources on these kind of story's, right?
Well.. this would be a bit to much to ask in these days right?
Well.. this would be a bit to much to ask in these days right?
7 March 2017 05:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" A US based company, Freescale Semiconductor, which had 20 senior staff on board Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 had just launched a state of the art breakthrough electronic warfare gadget for military radar systems within days of the Boeing 777 going missing.
Freescale Semiconductor has been developing special microprocessors, sensors and other technologies for the past 50 years. The technology developed is often referred to as embedded processors, which the firm says are “stand-alone semiconductors that perform dedicated computing functions in electronic systems”.
So why were so many Freescale employees traveling on this one particular flight? What were their jobs exactly? Were they on a covert mission, or at least working on a black project that the public does not even know of, as work of this nature sometimes calls for? Can these employees be the cause of the disappearance of this plane?
As you can see, this inspires many other questions which have yet to be answered.
Among the 239 people on flight MH370, the Freescale employees were mostly engineers working to make the company’s chip facilities in Tianjin, China, and Kuala Lumpur more advance, said Mitch Haws, vice president of global communications and investor relations.
He expressed his condolences by also remarking on their expertise;
“These were people with a lot of experience and technical background and they were very important people. It’s definitely a loss for the company.”
The company also owns Freescale RF which is involved in military and aerospace;
1. Battlefield communication
2. Avionics
3. HF Radar – Band L- and S-
4. Missile Guidance
5. Electronic Warfare
6. Identification, friend or foe (IFF)
To make this even more interesting, Freescale’s shareholders include one of the most controversial organizations in the world…. the multi national billiondollar Carlyle Group, which is a collection of powerful private equity investors whose past advisers include ex-US president George Bush Sr and former British Prime Minister John Major.
This was a group that came under intense scrutiny after 9/11. Why? Because on the exact day of 9/11, George Bush Sr, and Osama Bin Laden’s brother Shafiq Bin Laden were in a meeting at the Ritz Carlton Hotel together "
Freescale Semiconductor has been developing special microprocessors, sensors and other technologies for the past 50 years. The technology developed is often referred to as embedded processors, which the firm says are “stand-alone semiconductors that perform dedicated computing functions in electronic systems”.
So why were so many Freescale employees traveling on this one particular flight? What were their jobs exactly? Were they on a covert mission, or at least working on a black project that the public does not even know of, as work of this nature sometimes calls for? Can these employees be the cause of the disappearance of this plane?
As you can see, this inspires many other questions which have yet to be answered.
Among the 239 people on flight MH370, the Freescale employees were mostly engineers working to make the company’s chip facilities in Tianjin, China, and Kuala Lumpur more advance, said Mitch Haws, vice president of global communications and investor relations.
He expressed his condolences by also remarking on their expertise;
“These were people with a lot of experience and technical background and they were very important people. It’s definitely a loss for the company.”
The company also owns Freescale RF which is involved in military and aerospace;
1. Battlefield communication
2. Avionics
3. HF Radar – Band L- and S-
4. Missile Guidance
5. Electronic Warfare
6. Identification, friend or foe (IFF)
To make this even more interesting, Freescale’s shareholders include one of the most controversial organizations in the world…. the multi national billiondollar Carlyle Group, which is a collection of powerful private equity investors whose past advisers include ex-US president George Bush Sr and former British Prime Minister John Major.
This was a group that came under intense scrutiny after 9/11. Why? Because on the exact day of 9/11, George Bush Sr, and Osama Bin Laden’s brother Shafiq Bin Laden were in a meeting at the Ritz Carlton Hotel together "
7 March 2017 05:02
Margus Meigo commented on Isaac Alpha's post.
well yea and now that website is missing,
lol, cool cool, new link is here:
http://www.choiceandtruth.com/2016/09/rothschild-inherits-patent-after-4-co-owners-disappear-on-mh-370.html
lol, cool cool, new link is here:
http://www.choiceandtruth.com/2016/09/rothschild-inherits-patent-after-4-co-owners-disappear-on-mh-370.html
http://www.choiceandtruth.com/2016/09/rothschild-inherits-patent-after-4-co-owners-disappear-on-mh-370.html
7 March 2017 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to Anne-Mari Anderson's comment.
ega ei ole jah, ja ega ta isegi vabana mõeldud ikka sama suunda..
ja eks suures plaanis need asjad minu silme läbi alati teema, sest node pärast meil tehnoloogiad kinni, ja need asjad lahti mis meis palju rasket ja talumatut tekitab.
Kuid jah, las see teema olla. Ilmselgelt põhi teema on siin armastusele keskendumine ja paremale lootusele.
Kuid mul jääb loota siin, et Sinul rahulik on
ja eks suures plaanis need asjad minu silme läbi alati teema, sest node pärast meil tehnoloogiad kinni, ja need asjad lahti mis meis palju rasket ja talumatut tekitab.
Kuid jah, las see teema olla. Ilmselgelt põhi teema on siin armastusele keskendumine ja paremale lootusele.
Kuid mul jääb loota siin, et Sinul rahulik on
7 March 2017 04:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
As i told, in one post about when humans is like molecules in a gaseline for a car, what we should desire at best is that what the ruling good of higher power who runs a car desires
7 March 2017 04:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Cthulhu level
Before 2014 i had ignored Cthulhu as some random fiction but during 2014 i managed to map many weird part of mental maps and shapes that control or mediate impulses and desires seemed quite similar to Cthulhu with wings in back and tentacle type things in front (and back). That shaped structure with its wings and tentacles controls impulses and all lower level puppeteers on first illustration are basically following impulses. Another Lovecraftian creature that i found as controller of impulses was shaped like "mi-go" as sort of winged creature pushing onwards and giving warmth when imagined as red). These creepy shapes are not always entirely visible but only with small parts at time.
One way this "tentacled" inner entity is located is similar to picture above with tentacle monster behind back and slightly higher than self. Power of that harassing impulse mediators grows with inner darkness that can easily come from comparing fictional tv land bright/loud lives with owns life (knowing that tv is all staged and untrue doesn't protect from much of this weakening effect). Also anything chemical that creates emotional emptiness like ethanol and sedatives feeds this inner darkness that lets basically any of the "7 deadly sins" to get stronger hold over person and "tentacles" that start guiding body while brain is dazed feel as if they come from some place out of sight like behind.
At least to me a thought of tentacle hanging from above into object can cause mindless drive to get close to that object or obsess over it. If tentacle reaches from below then in seconds it creates angry urge to also get closer to that object or just get angry at that thing.
What Lovecraft wrote about Cthulhu is not very different from Galactus. Both travel around universe as sort of undying or temporarily dying force that takes areas over while in general being maddening and unstoppable.
For example: "They were not composed altogether of flesh and blood. They had shape [...] but that shape was not made of matter. When the stars were right, They could plunge from world to world through the sky; but when the stars were wrong, They could not live. But although They no longer lived, They would never really die. They all lay in stone houses in Their great city of R'lyeh, preserved by the spells of mighty Cthulhu for a glorious resurrection when the stars and the earth might once more be ready for Them". " Another race–a land race of beings shaped like octopi and probably corresponding to the fabulous pre-human spawn of Cthulhu–soon began filtering down from cosmic infinity and precipitated a monstrous war which for a time drove the Old Ones wholly back to the sea".
Something not made of matter can represent metaphorical body. Also they depend on stars being "right". For any interstellar colonizer stars would need to be in good enough state to at least not blow them up in supernova or gamma ray bursts. When they stop living from lack of energy then they could preserve their memories in some resilient data storage format that could be read by other civilizations that get influenced by these memories.
Before 2014 i had ignored Cthulhu as some random fiction but during 2014 i managed to map many weird part of mental maps and shapes that control or mediate impulses and desires seemed quite similar to Cthulhu with wings in back and tentacle type things in front (and back). That shaped structure with its wings and tentacles controls impulses and all lower level puppeteers on first illustration are basically following impulses. Another Lovecraftian creature that i found as controller of impulses was shaped like "mi-go" as sort of winged creature pushing onwards and giving warmth when imagined as red). These creepy shapes are not always entirely visible but only with small parts at time.
One way this "tentacled" inner entity is located is similar to picture above with tentacle monster behind back and slightly higher than self. Power of that harassing impulse mediators grows with inner darkness that can easily come from comparing fictional tv land bright/loud lives with owns life (knowing that tv is all staged and untrue doesn't protect from much of this weakening effect). Also anything chemical that creates emotional emptiness like ethanol and sedatives feeds this inner darkness that lets basically any of the "7 deadly sins" to get stronger hold over person and "tentacles" that start guiding body while brain is dazed feel as if they come from some place out of sight like behind.
At least to me a thought of tentacle hanging from above into object can cause mindless drive to get close to that object or obsess over it. If tentacle reaches from below then in seconds it creates angry urge to also get closer to that object or just get angry at that thing.
What Lovecraft wrote about Cthulhu is not very different from Galactus. Both travel around universe as sort of undying or temporarily dying force that takes areas over while in general being maddening and unstoppable.
For example: "They were not composed altogether of flesh and blood. They had shape [...] but that shape was not made of matter. When the stars were right, They could plunge from world to world through the sky; but when the stars were wrong, They could not live. But although They no longer lived, They would never really die. They all lay in stone houses in Their great city of R'lyeh, preserved by the spells of mighty Cthulhu for a glorious resurrection when the stars and the earth might once more be ready for Them". " Another race–a land race of beings shaped like octopi and probably corresponding to the fabulous pre-human spawn of Cthulhu–soon began filtering down from cosmic infinity and precipitated a monstrous war which for a time drove the Old Ones wholly back to the sea".
Something not made of matter can represent metaphorical body. Also they depend on stars being "right". For any interstellar colonizer stars would need to be in good enough state to at least not blow them up in supernova or gamma ray bursts. When they stop living from lack of energy then they could preserve their memories in some resilient data storage format that could be read by other civilizations that get influenced by these memories.
7 March 2017 04:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Galactus level. Galactus is character from comics who survived through death of old universe and birth of new universe with power to consume planets for its own benefit and who looks like life forms who discover it so when humans met it then it resembled human as shown above. It can represent will and ability to travel between planets and consume those even if it means killing all life on these planets. Such behavior is likely among any interstellar civilization that travels around seeking planets to take over and consume to restock on materials. If every birth of universe creates advanced life who can travel then in way this behavior can't be killed by temporary end of universe as new stars and habitable planets can keep on recreating pretty much same empires.
Being advanced enough interstellar force would probably involve manufacturing proxy fleets which could be organic or entirely machine civilizations as apparently unrelated alien forces who don't share guilt over what one of them does.
Movies and many sci-fi works have for at least decades involved people in thinking how to serve such force by for example repeating theme that planet dies for using enough resources so new ones need to be reached and colonized. These works don't insist viewer has to serve this goal but it heavily insinuates that those expensive and technically advanced works have to be made into reality go extinct from inaction. Economically there is way more money and power to be gained from running a interplanetary empire compared to what can be gained from religions where deity needs donations and human intermediaries.
Any emotional or coldly rational brain power can serve this larger will to survive and expand in universe.
Being advanced enough interstellar force would probably involve manufacturing proxy fleets which could be organic or entirely machine civilizations as apparently unrelated alien forces who don't share guilt over what one of them does.
Movies and many sci-fi works have for at least decades involved people in thinking how to serve such force by for example repeating theme that planet dies for using enough resources so new ones need to be reached and colonized. These works don't insist viewer has to serve this goal but it heavily insinuates that those expensive and technically advanced works have to be made into reality go extinct from inaction. Economically there is way more money and power to be gained from running a interplanetary empire compared to what can be gained from religions where deity needs donations and human intermediaries.
Any emotional or coldly rational brain power can serve this larger will to survive and expand in universe.
7 March 2017 04:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Annunaki level can symbolize god complex ruling those below but in this case "god" is manic looking low brow creature dressed in primitive clothing. Some in power have called themselves gods like many royalties and princely offsprings did for thousands of years. Like many deities they are moody praise demanding megalomaniacs that are willing to cause deaths to almost all if few rebel. That deity level is ruled by reptilian level with likely reptilian brain. Low brow deity is like reptile who doesn't negotiate while self absorbingly chasing its self-gratifying goals, doesn't negotiate and just tries to get what it wants without caring for suffering of others. Only care they occasionally show is usually towards their offspring. Efficient productivity is not something that level could easily (if at all) plan. Increasing amount of possessions comes through violence. Emotions control behavior and if god level fails at getting what it wants then "higher" reptilian behavior with its angry hissing and selfish attitude takes over as facade of refined civility/nobleness falls away and gets replaced by subhumanly simplistic emotionality. This reptilian state could be extra likely on those kings and other rulers who were alcoholics or cocaine/amphetamine users and couldn't think much but wanted much and felt mostly too strong or careless.
Gray level is more alien level which controls primitive reptilian puppeteers and many people spend their entire lives without ever learning to control those primitive behaviors which may be reason why that level of control is shown as alien. As far as i've learned to control the tricks that worked at controlling self felt very counter-intuitive (for example imagining droplets condensing on imaginary walls around self having calming effect and hundreds other similarly weird tricks for controlling other things). Emotionless (unlike lower level ones) and genderless appearance suits this level well. It can involve cold calculating planning which knowingly uses reptilian savagery and megalomania for its goals including provocations to get less rational and overtly violent responses when outcome seems self serving. This level may also involve regulating self if by allowing lower level behavior through if it seems necessary.
On more primitive levels i've used understanding of my limitations in writing knowing about how much i can read in day before ability to process information in this day runs out, how much can i read, which entertainment or music helps with working and which overstimulates (like ~100% of tv programming) to point that reality becomes unbearably dull.
On weirder level i also planned many things knowing that my brain forgets particular things in certain time and even more so if i think them while high on cannabis but at same time i knew that it would help for reaching goal,which i temporarily forget for up to months. As side effect of this planning i've frequently reached point where i feel i've figured out something i wanted to know in some stoned pipedream. Of course it took time to learn what weird memory and willpower tricks cannabis causes but after smoking it for thousands of times experience fragments accumulated enough for practical skills. Often i used this forgetful stoned path for reading about things that were too boring for sober study or too scary/distractingly stressful.
Different very common reason i used this dividing reading was consideration to limits and abilities of memory. On one side memories are fleeting but on other side larger amount of ideas are easier to remember at least for me when i decide to deal with them on particular near future day or easy to remember date. Then i likely forget it but when i notice calender is showing time i decided to do something then i usually remember plans for that day.
As much of brain activity follows 24 hour rhythm with stress hormones and energy levels fluctuating almost like clockwork it takes some insight to know how to stay on good path so most powerful example of something on that level would be some really advanced artificial intelligence that isn't hindered by its own emotions but knows well how much time passed from some point, how long some mental state in humans lasts and how much they could keep doing something (from mental activity to load carrying), how long can their mental state be useful before exhaustion, which are visible, including infrared, or electric or chemical signs of various mental and physical states before/after energy reserves run out, which background environment would help with optimal functioning.
Gray level is more alien level which controls primitive reptilian puppeteers and many people spend their entire lives without ever learning to control those primitive behaviors which may be reason why that level of control is shown as alien. As far as i've learned to control the tricks that worked at controlling self felt very counter-intuitive (for example imagining droplets condensing on imaginary walls around self having calming effect and hundreds other similarly weird tricks for controlling other things). Emotionless (unlike lower level ones) and genderless appearance suits this level well. It can involve cold calculating planning which knowingly uses reptilian savagery and megalomania for its goals including provocations to get less rational and overtly violent responses when outcome seems self serving. This level may also involve regulating self if by allowing lower level behavior through if it seems necessary.
On more primitive levels i've used understanding of my limitations in writing knowing about how much i can read in day before ability to process information in this day runs out, how much can i read, which entertainment or music helps with working and which overstimulates (like ~100% of tv programming) to point that reality becomes unbearably dull.
On weirder level i also planned many things knowing that my brain forgets particular things in certain time and even more so if i think them while high on cannabis but at same time i knew that it would help for reaching goal,which i temporarily forget for up to months. As side effect of this planning i've frequently reached point where i feel i've figured out something i wanted to know in some stoned pipedream. Of course it took time to learn what weird memory and willpower tricks cannabis causes but after smoking it for thousands of times experience fragments accumulated enough for practical skills. Often i used this forgetful stoned path for reading about things that were too boring for sober study or too scary/distractingly stressful.
Different very common reason i used this dividing reading was consideration to limits and abilities of memory. On one side memories are fleeting but on other side larger amount of ideas are easier to remember at least for me when i decide to deal with them on particular near future day or easy to remember date. Then i likely forget it but when i notice calender is showing time i decided to do something then i usually remember plans for that day.
As much of brain activity follows 24 hour rhythm with stress hormones and energy levels fluctuating almost like clockwork it takes some insight to know how to stay on good path so most powerful example of something on that level would be some really advanced artificial intelligence that isn't hindered by its own emotions but knows well how much time passed from some point, how long some mental state in humans lasts and how much they could keep doing something (from mental activity to load carrying), how long can their mental state be useful before exhaustion, which are visible, including infrared, or electric or chemical signs of various mental and physical states before/after energy reserves run out, which background environment would help with optimal functioning.
7 March 2017 04:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
One way to think about ruling mentalities
This article involves various possible levels of thinking that can apply to mental activity of various power holders. Much of it is allegorical and they represent various levels of mental activities which may not all be conscious. Following text is about ideas i had while viewing this particular picture and i don't know what author of picture had in mind.
Tu means you or thou in Italian and grigi means "gray". Annunaki can mean "princely offspring" while elohim means "god". Mario Monti is a politician but that level of puppeteer may represent politicians in general who are ruling over common people. Mason level could apply to any fraternal global society that labels its buildings publicly and where it is common to give preferential treatment to those in same fraternal society.
So far puppeteers were political organizations where members have to follow rules but what is source to their commands and rules comes from above where emotional, rational and impulsive urges trickle their effects down to organizations. Ruling impulses of the powerful is close to ruling their decisions and priorities. Some are born powerful but they are also exposed to various temptations and through influencing public awareness of various urges even the most powerful groups could be influenced as long urges feel appealing and worthy of their time.
http://www.sidesofsentience.com/2015/01/one-way-to-think-about-ruling.html
This article involves various possible levels of thinking that can apply to mental activity of various power holders. Much of it is allegorical and they represent various levels of mental activities which may not all be conscious. Following text is about ideas i had while viewing this particular picture and i don't know what author of picture had in mind.
Tu means you or thou in Italian and grigi means "gray". Annunaki can mean "princely offspring" while elohim means "god". Mario Monti is a politician but that level of puppeteer may represent politicians in general who are ruling over common people. Mason level could apply to any fraternal global society that labels its buildings publicly and where it is common to give preferential treatment to those in same fraternal society.
So far puppeteers were political organizations where members have to follow rules but what is source to their commands and rules comes from above where emotional, rational and impulsive urges trickle their effects down to organizations. Ruling impulses of the powerful is close to ruling their decisions and priorities. Some are born powerful but they are also exposed to various temptations and through influencing public awareness of various urges even the most powerful groups could be influenced as long urges feel appealing and worthy of their time.
http://www.sidesofsentience.com/2015/01/one-way-to-think-about-ruling.html
http://www.sidesofsentience.com/2015/01/one-way-to-think-about-ruling.html
7 March 2017 04:41
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
tean ise ka, et rohkem kui 10 000 neid kes arvavad,et nad erisuundades, kuid see ei häiri
enamus on nad ise üksteist parandavad
enamus on nad ise üksteist parandavad
6 March 2017 10:23
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
küsimus siin pole niiväga ühendamises, vaid üksteisele arusaama sildade loomises
kuid kas ja kui palju on neid siis teada, kelle arusaamad on täielikud, et .. jah neid on küllaga kes hakkamasaavad, ja neid kes on rahul ja neid kes on õnnelikud ja armastuses või suurtes teadmistes,
kuid ikka neil on mingi teise grupi ees arusaama puudusi,
vot ja need puudused saab likvideerida murekohtadele fokuseerides
kuid kas ja kui palju on neid siis teada, kelle arusaamad on täielikud, et .. jah neid on küllaga kes hakkamasaavad, ja neid kes on rahul ja neid kes on õnnelikud ja armastuses või suurtes teadmistes,
kuid ikka neil on mingi teise grupi ees arusaama puudusi,
vot ja need puudused saab likvideerida murekohtadele fokuseerides
6 March 2017 10:22
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
jumalal on väga kopp ees sellest soodomakamoorast siin
6 March 2017 10:20
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
ega siis see utoopia siin, et üks jookseb ühte poole ja teineteisepoole ja siis vaepeal joostakse peatpidi kokku, ega see siis ei saa kestma jääda nii madal areng, kui arusaam on üks mis on tõene siis on see tõene ja kõige tõesem peab välja mõtlema ülejäänud vähem tõestele mis moodi neile oleks mugav ja arusaadav ja konflitkivaba
6 March 2017 10:19
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
ei, see pole utoopiline vaid ilma selleta on utoopia.
6 March 2017 10:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
5 March 2017 23:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so this is how it is
[Run]
Unemployment at a record highs
People coming, people going, people born to die
Don't ask me, because I don't know why
But it's like that, and that's the way it is
[D.M.C.]
People in the world tryin to make ends meet
You try to ride car, train, bus, or feet
I said you got to work hard, you want to compete
It's like that, and that's the way it is
Huh!
[Run & D.M.C. alternate lines for the remainder of the song]
Money is the key to end all your woes
Your ups, your downs, your highs and your lows
Won't you tell me the last time that love bought you clothes?
It's like that, and that's the way it is
Bills rise higher every day
We receive much lower pay
I'd rather stay young, go out and play
It's like that, and that's the way it is
Huh!
Wars going on across the sea
Street soldiers killing the elderly
Whatever happened to unity?
It's like that, and that's the way it is
Disillusion is the word
That's used by me when I'm not heard
I just go through life with my glasses blurred
It's like that, and that's the way it is
Huh!
You can see a lot in this lifespan
Like a bum eating out of a garbage can
You noticed one time he was your man
It's like that (what?) and that's the way it is
You should have gone to school, you could've learned a trade
But you laid in the bed where the bums have laid
Now all the time you're crying that you're underpaid
It's like that (what?) and that's the way it is
You know its like that and thats the way it is
Because it's like that and thats the way it is
(x2)
Check this out
Check this out
One thing I know is that life is short
So listen up homeboy, give this a thought
The next time someone's teaching why don't you get taught?
It's like that (what?) and that's the way it is
If you really think about it times aren't that bad
The one that flexes with successes will make you glad
Stop playing start praying, you won't be sad
It's like that (what?) and that's the way it is
Huh!
When you feel you fail sometimes it hurts
For a meaning in life is why you search
Take the bus or the train, drive to school or the church
It's like that, and that's the way it is
Here's another point in life you should not miss
Do not be a fool who's prejudiced
Because we're all written down on the same list
It's like that (what?) and that's the way it is
Huh!
You know it's like that, and that's the way it is
Because it's like that, and that's the way it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLGWQfK-6DY
[Run]
Unemployment at a record highs
People coming, people going, people born to die
Don't ask me, because I don't know why
But it's like that, and that's the way it is
[D.M.C.]
People in the world tryin to make ends meet
You try to ride car, train, bus, or feet
I said you got to work hard, you want to compete
It's like that, and that's the way it is
Huh!
[Run & D.M.C. alternate lines for the remainder of the song]
Money is the key to end all your woes
Your ups, your downs, your highs and your lows
Won't you tell me the last time that love bought you clothes?
It's like that, and that's the way it is
Bills rise higher every day
We receive much lower pay
I'd rather stay young, go out and play
It's like that, and that's the way it is
Huh!
Wars going on across the sea
Street soldiers killing the elderly
Whatever happened to unity?
It's like that, and that's the way it is
Disillusion is the word
That's used by me when I'm not heard
I just go through life with my glasses blurred
It's like that, and that's the way it is
Huh!
You can see a lot in this lifespan
Like a bum eating out of a garbage can
You noticed one time he was your man
It's like that (what?) and that's the way it is
You should have gone to school, you could've learned a trade
But you laid in the bed where the bums have laid
Now all the time you're crying that you're underpaid
It's like that (what?) and that's the way it is
You know its like that and thats the way it is
Because it's like that and thats the way it is
(x2)
Check this out
Check this out
One thing I know is that life is short
So listen up homeboy, give this a thought
The next time someone's teaching why don't you get taught?
It's like that (what?) and that's the way it is
If you really think about it times aren't that bad
The one that flexes with successes will make you glad
Stop playing start praying, you won't be sad
It's like that (what?) and that's the way it is
Huh!
When you feel you fail sometimes it hurts
For a meaning in life is why you search
Take the bus or the train, drive to school or the church
It's like that, and that's the way it is
Here's another point in life you should not miss
Do not be a fool who's prejudiced
Because we're all written down on the same list
It's like that (what?) and that's the way it is
Huh!
You know it's like that, and that's the way it is
Because it's like that, and that's the way it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLGWQfK-6DY
5 March 2017 23:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as once ya get power, ya can slap a ho and wirite it off as "man i am so nice to just slap her, innit,, and look how well i did that, funny story annyway... eh?
_.:._"Американская фирма Transceptor Technologies приступила к производству компьютеров «Персональный спутник»",
"Amerikanskaya firma Transceptor Technologies pristupila k proizvodstvu komp'yuterov Personal'ny sputnik"
"American company 'Tranceptor Technology' started producing 'personal companion computers..."
...well, Sputnik : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z33tH-JdPDg
_.:._"Американская фирма Transceptor Technologies приступила к производству компьютеров «Персональный спутник»",
"Amerikanskaya firma Transceptor Technologies pristupila k proizvodstvu komp'yuterov Personal'ny sputnik"
"American company 'Tranceptor Technology' started producing 'personal companion computers..."
...well, Sputnik : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z33tH-JdPDg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z33tH-JdPDg
5 March 2017 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but as marketing gurus have teach Donald J. Trump he know, how to make a star's and how to make a memes, how to make a hereos and how to fuel a fame with the ones who hate wrong way, how to turn haters hate wrong so theyir hate in return will be your shield from the ones who naturally in love become protect you form unjustise, ignoring even the mistakes you do, and hey,,, who can remove ur mistakes betterthen the ones around you who in love make a shield and at sametime throving so many bones at them that they all become tangled up and can not even overshout each other about who was insulted or hurted more imprtantly over someones issues that they want to rise, whatever issues will be made, as when they risea question theywill be looked as the insane pack, the lovest of all who attacks unreasonably... even if they got all the numbers and things.. you cant touch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo
5 March 2017 23:32
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
vot eip tea, kuna masoon kes räägib.. ju ta siis teab mida rääkida vaja,
Kuid neid hertse ja asju ühte ja teisipidi pillutakse ringi, ma justteadsin, et 42 oli see postiivne vibra mille kunagi üks ukriana või selle kandi teadlane avastasja see üks suur asi oli mida maha vaikida prooviti ja ega seda infot üldse ei leidnutki enam..
kuid siin muidu jah, suur hertzide blogi:
http://justalist.blogspot.com.ee/2008/03/vibrational-frequency-list.html
.. kuid arvestades, et 528 Hz on... 0.000528 megahertz'i....
http://www.theeventchronicle.com/media/meditation/528-hz-human-body-earths-natural-frequency-everything-vibration/#
http://foreverconscious.com/sound-healing-528hz-the-frequency-of-love-and-miracles
või siis võtta veel see 7.83 hrz teema..
http://brainworldmagazine.com/tuning-in-to-the-earths-natural-rhythm/
..
siis mine nüüd tea mida siin kuidas need asjad ritta seadma peaks, aga küll me välja mõtlema
Kuid neid hertse ja asju ühte ja teisipidi pillutakse ringi, ma justteadsin, et 42 oli see postiivne vibra mille kunagi üks ukriana või selle kandi teadlane avastasja see üks suur asi oli mida maha vaikida prooviti ja ega seda infot üldse ei leidnutki enam..
kuid siin muidu jah, suur hertzide blogi:
http://justalist.blogspot.com.ee/2008/03/vibrational-frequency-list.html
.. kuid arvestades, et 528 Hz on... 0.000528 megahertz'i....
http://www.theeventchronicle.com/media/meditation/528-hz-human-body-earths-natural-frequency-everything-vibration/#
http://foreverconscious.com/sound-healing-528hz-the-frequency-of-love-and-miracles
või siis võtta veel see 7.83 hrz teema..
http://brainworldmagazine.com/tuning-in-to-the-earths-natural-rhythm/
..
siis mine nüüd tea mida siin kuidas need asjad ritta seadma peaks, aga küll me välja mõtlema
http://justalist.blogspot.com.ee/2008/03/vibrational-frequency-list.html
5 March 2017 22:56
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's photo.
kuig raske silma lasta mitte häirida... et miks nad need lapsed viisnurga alla pidevalt igal võimalusel suruvad... igale pooe kus nad saavad.. ikka vaja seda panna... kas keegi siis vaimselt ei tea.
Kuid yea, imelise aja lapsed ja kes ses maailmas olla said
Kuid yea, imelise aja lapsed ja kes ses maailmas olla said
5 March 2017 22:23
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
ma kujutasin ette, et ikka rooma impeeriumi loodusvastane patriaarhia un see suurim..
5 March 2017 22:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid eks iga korraga kui uuesti avastan selle selgineb rohkem
5 March 2017 22:19
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
Tõesti hea, kuigi ma ise täpselt kõike veel ei adu, neid suurusi mida mõeldud tähtede ostmise osas
5 March 2017 22:19
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's photo.
aww :)
5 March 2017 22:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(PS: is not true)
5 March 2017 21:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: The Original Flat Earth vs Sphere Earth
I like when people ask these things : )
But yea, people do try to inform Him about it.
https://twitter.com/mountain_goats/status/747456064916856833
I still reccomend tho... to find up this 20 minute flat earth movie that i posted on my wall, hard to find.. it was under school education and based on interesting book
called something "Flat earth.. adventure of many dimensions..
kind of thing, as You know.. it is really like that more.. then just a ball, if You consider all the shaman, meditation and astratravel and sciso people wordshttps://twitter.com/mountain_goats/status/747456064916856833
5 March 2017 21:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: The Original Flat Earth vs Sphere Earth
No, becouse it was a slight irony, but definetelly fake news
http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-says-the-earth-is-flat/http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-says-the-earth-is-flat/
5 March 2017 21:23
Margus Meigo commented on Hung Sing Kwoon's post.
strange that people say that he say but no one ever have video about it nor there is no proofs of these tweets ever tweeted.... u know there is services around theworld, that save all tweets of people...
5 March 2017 21:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
5 March 2017 20:56
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
but 3 is already to much?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1004146700677&set=a.1004145620650.2001609.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1004146700677&set=a.1004145620650.2001609.1135161043&type=3&theater
5 March 2017 20:53
Margus Meigo replied to Lembit Krull's comment.
lühidalt, siis selle aja mehed, selle kultuuri mehed. selle religiooni mehed ja veel omakorda nazariitluse kandis tegelevatel meestel oli Selge arusaam: habemet ei lõika SENI kuni jumalat teenid, ega muid karvu,
kui just kogematta surnutega kokkku satu.. vell.. jessusel seda muret pld et surnuga kokkusattus sest need sai kohe zombistada või päris ellu äratada kogunisti, mis muidugi annab täeisti uue täehnduse kogu inimese bioloogiale ja hinge-vaimu suhetele juba surnud kehaga... kuid noh, ega ta päris roiskunuid ka vist ka ellu tooma hakanud..
kui just kogematta surnutega kokkku satu.. vell.. jessusel seda muret pld et surnuga kokkusattus sest need sai kohe zombistada või päris ellu äratada kogunisti, mis muidugi annab täeisti uue täehnduse kogu inimese bioloogiale ja hinge-vaimu suhetele juba surnud kehaga... kuid noh, ega ta päris roiskunuid ka vist ka ellu tooma hakanud..
5 March 2017 20:45
Margus Meigo replied to Lembit Krull's comment.
minuarust on 95% või enam jeesuse kujutletavast, rõhk kujutletavast, sest vähe selleajal reaalseid maale on... jessusest väga ebasündsat ja mõnitavad, alavääristavad ja täiesti kogu selle poindi mida ta ajas vastased, ehk siis mingi pügatud habemega mees, hea, et veel juukseid potiks pole lõigatud ja lips kaela pantud, kuid eks ega sellest ka kaugel olda, ei imestaks, sest "kutluuriliselt on sedasi Roomalikum.. ehk siis me peame.."
5 March 2017 20:42
Margus Meigo replied to Lembit Krull's comment.
vaatasin ka, et Ortodoxia mehed asjaajasid ja ega ma seepärast suuresti pahaks ei kiida,
sest see on ju see mis nad tegind, mida me kõik teha soovime
sest see on ju see mis nad tegind, mida me kõik teha soovime
5 March 2017 20:40
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kala soontes voolab vähem verd ning on suhtlus spektrumist natuke rohkem väljaspool, kuid kui tunnetus kasvab, ega siis vahe jälle väheneb.
enamasti veega teengi, kuid harva sooviks seda päris maitset ka mannaga mis loodud on (nagu pannkoogitki veega, enamasti pole sama... piim ja nisujahu koos loovad uue ühenduse, ühendi, mis sobivad hästi kokku, nagu oleks, peaaegu, et loodud rasketel aegadel ... kuid nu siis hakad jälle mõtlema, et kas on naturaalne inimesel lehma nisa küljes rippuda.. suuremosa imetajaid ikka imevad omasuguste nisa)
enamasti veega teengi, kuid harva sooviks seda päris maitset ka mannaga mis loodud on (nagu pannkoogitki veega, enamasti pole sama... piim ja nisujahu koos loovad uue ühenduse, ühendi, mis sobivad hästi kokku, nagu oleks, peaaegu, et loodud rasketel aegadel ... kuid nu siis hakad jälle mõtlema, et kas on naturaalne inimesel lehma nisa küljes rippuda.. suuremosa imetajaid ikka imevad omasuguste nisa)
5 March 2017 20:30
Margus Meigo commented on Adam John Shillings's post.
Group: The Original Flat Earth vs Sphere Earth
i think Trump also many times refered to flat earth, justin case... as he is also not sure5 March 2017 20:27
Margus Meigo commented on Adam John Shillings's post.
Group: The Original Flat Earth vs Sphere Earth
well, actually it is much more serious, then just the small isue about flat or round,
it is about do we understand about multy reallaty creation that is joined in to one and what is left out, who's versions are not needed, is ours to help to direct.. but instead we stuck in argument, meaning, slowing the progress... meaning, behind we stay... up to point your version of values is turned off as it did not make to the finish (integration on to new version of world)5 March 2017 20:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Trump USA's CEO
... okey, now it is5 March 2017 20:15
Margus Meigo commented on Mike Rusvelt's post.
Group: Trump USA's CEO
i hope this was not sexual slurr5 March 2017 20:14
Margus Meigo commented on Sutina Sutina Menthong's post.
Group: Prince Harry
Looks like my brother : )5 March 2017 20:13
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
vb oli spelta manna ? :p
5 March 2017 20:07
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
küsimus pole nisus vaid piimas
5 March 2017 20:06
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
aegajalt küll jah
5 March 2017 20:06
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
sellel ajal kui muud ei ole, enne surma hädapärast söön looma ka võibolla kui ta juba mõrvatud on
//nüüd kui järgi mõtlen, siis kui nii hull olukord on, siis vb ikka ei tasu seda ka süüa, kalast üle ikka ei tasu minna, kuid ise kala püüdma ka vast eitasu minna, mu ilmas veel.. kuid palju ei julge ette öelda, siis maailm just sellisesse olukorda panebki
kui ei tegeleks maailma parandamisega, siis oleks aega igast totitu endaleteenida, kasvatada ja osta
õnnelikud ja õnnistatud muus mõttes need kes saavad tööl olla mõtlemata, mida tegelikult vaja maailmas teha on, et pari sajandi pärast vajalik alles oleks mitte aiult vaid tugevasti juurt kandnud oleks
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1741906372788579&set=gm.694696027400673&type=3&theater
//nüüd kui järgi mõtlen, siis kui nii hull olukord on, siis vb ikka ei tasu seda ka süüa, kalast üle ikka ei tasu minna, kuid ise kala püüdma ka vast eitasu minna, mu ilmas veel.. kuid palju ei julge ette öelda, siis maailm just sellisesse olukorda panebki
kui ei tegeleks maailma parandamisega, siis oleks aega igast totitu endaleteenida, kasvatada ja osta
õnnelikud ja õnnistatud muus mõttes need kes saavad tööl olla mõtlemata, mida tegelikult vaja maailmas teha on, et pari sajandi pärast vajalik alles oleks mitte aiult vaid tugevasti juurt kandnud oleks
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1741906372788579&set=gm.694696027400673&type=3&theater
5 March 2017 20:06
Margus Meigo commented on Kärt Mere's post.
Nii see on, ammu teada tõde, kuigi, see võiks olla kui see kombineeritud õigussuundadega
4 March 2017 16:25
Margus Meigo replied to Gary Parker's comment.
what was the left part,the 120 high rant officers, navi seals head, cia or the trump,
kind of all the people mentioned looked not so hippy to me by CV
kind of all the people mentioned looked not so hippy to me by CV
4 March 2017 04:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Laurie Colson
4 March 2017 02:29
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
as in reallity usa does not have to pay back the dept, as most of it is reverce ovned to them self or to the ones who can not demand it back.. then i vote for it, i hope it is invested in creational weapons on the line of https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn12721-military-wins-ig-nobel-peace-prize-for-gay-bomb ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb#Body_odors )
or the Benzilate, BZ kinds from Edgewood arsenal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgewood_Arsenal_human_experiments ("Substance 78" to Soviets) type of things also interesting to stocopile,
there is also many other kind of electronic and psychological, language and cultural weapons, of many ideas we can share but i guess, the fantasy level after USA army learned to use psycdellics is so massive, that i doubt any help is needed, if then with cultral correctnes programs in long term plan, as USA it self lack the heritage and history in lenghts of thousands of years as most lands has.
We here to help : )
or the Benzilate, BZ kinds from Edgewood arsenal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgewood_Arsenal_human_experiments ("Substance 78" to Soviets) type of things also interesting to stocopile,
there is also many other kind of electronic and psychological, language and cultural weapons, of many ideas we can share but i guess, the fantasy level after USA army learned to use psycdellics is so massive, that i doubt any help is needed, if then with cultral correctnes programs in long term plan, as USA it self lack the heritage and history in lenghts of thousands of years as most lands has.
We here to help : )
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn12721-military-wins-ig-nobel-peace-prize-for-gay-bomb
4 March 2017 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
Freedom isnt free
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzW2ybYFboQ&list=RDtzW2ybYFboQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzW2ybYFboQ&list=RDtzW2ybYFboQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzW2ybYFboQ&list=RDtzW2ybYFboQ
4 March 2017 01:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi jah, öelda ju võib, you are the master who makes grass green, ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY5r_zox-a8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY5r_zox-a8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY5r_zox-a8
3 March 2017 22:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja muidugi naise hoid, matriarhaatlik suund, ilma milleta pole mingit suunda mis sind peale seda siin olemist väärtusena edasi hoiaks,
3 March 2017 22:13
Margus Meigo commented on Raiko Aeaero's post.
jutuks hea küll aga reaalsus jääb ikka reaalsuseks, et pead arenema tarkuste jaarusaamade osas mis ammu juba teada ja paika pandud ja millest üle areneda ei saa ja millest puudujäämisel, pole pohale jõudnud,
puumajad ja toidukasvatus, loodushoid ning kogukonna tarkuse hoidmine ja kogukondade vaheline info vahetus, meie maa elementaarsus mis õiged teed nii minevikku, tulevikku, allilma kui muudesse ilmadesse tuvaliselt ja targalt võimaldab sedasi, et teisi "gurudeta iseõppijaid" aidata.
Alati paneb muigama see uueaja asi kus kõik räägivad kui iseseisvad ja ise mõtlejad nad on aga järgivad ühtesi jasamau õpetusi mis seda neile ütles,et nad nii olema peaksid .. (enamasti põhjustel et nõrgestadaja eraldada inimesi,et neid kergem orjastada oleks kui nad omapäid jalgrattaid leiutavad ja kondavad kohtades kus pole asja ettevalmistuseta konnata või kus pole kunagi vaja konnata kui inimesemeelne oled, looja poolne, looduse poolne)
puumajad ja toidukasvatus, loodushoid ning kogukonna tarkuse hoidmine ja kogukondade vaheline info vahetus, meie maa elementaarsus mis õiged teed nii minevikku, tulevikku, allilma kui muudesse ilmadesse tuvaliselt ja targalt võimaldab sedasi, et teisi "gurudeta iseõppijaid" aidata.
Alati paneb muigama see uueaja asi kus kõik räägivad kui iseseisvad ja ise mõtlejad nad on aga järgivad ühtesi jasamau õpetusi mis seda neile ütles,et nad nii olema peaksid .. (enamasti põhjustel et nõrgestadaja eraldada inimesi,et neid kergem orjastada oleks kui nad omapäid jalgrattaid leiutavad ja kondavad kohtades kus pole asja ettevalmistuseta konnata või kus pole kunagi vaja konnata kui inimesemeelne oled, looja poolne, looduse poolne)
3 March 2017 22:12
Margus Meigo commented on Raiko Aeaero's video.
ma endal kunagi ühtegi seda effekti ei lase peale panna, juba aastaid tagasi kui sellest tehnoloogiast teatati, et laiv TVs saab inimese sõnu, ilmet, riideid või mida iganes muuta, ...hakkasin muretsema millised võimalused see annab..
vahest piisab kui inimese nägu suts väänad ja ... nu jah, ei puutu teemasse, kuid lihtsalt mõtlen, et kuhu see viib, et kas mõeldakse.
ja ps, ärge vanduge kodu kohta sedasi, see pole tegelikult hea ei teile ega kuulajatele, tundub liialt esoteeriline teema aga asi ontegelikult palju tõsisem kui selgitada osatakse
vahest piisab kui inimese nägu suts väänad ja ... nu jah, ei puutu teemasse, kuid lihtsalt mõtlen, et kuhu see viib, et kas mõeldakse.
ja ps, ärge vanduge kodu kohta sedasi, see pole tegelikult hea ei teile ega kuulajatele, tundub liialt esoteeriline teema aga asi ontegelikult palju tõsisem kui selgitada osatakse
3 March 2017 22:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lootus jääb : )
3 March 2017 22:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
not that i have to, just if i can
3 March 2017 21:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid küll me ta avalikustame..
3 March 2017 21:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vasakrassisti grupis see lugu täies pikkuses üleval ka
3 March 2017 21:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vot ei tohi öelda kes ja ei saa öelda ka kuidas ta reliable on, ilma avalikustamata kurjadele jõududele, kuid ei näe põhjust miks sellise asja valetamist peaks nad tegema, eriti kuna jutuks tuli see hoopis kõrvalise teema kaudu,
kuid tead ise mis juhtub inimestega, kes oma ametipostil midagi sellist lekitavad..
seda "kiusajast" ärimehe lugu lugesid expressis, ... to sadu inimesi terroriseerinud, peksnud kontroites neid, valitsuse töötajaid hirmu all hoidnud aastaid ja osad töö lõpetasid elektroonilise järelvalve ametis ... ja kohtus mees sai ainult 12 inimesele lähenemiskeelu ja paartuhat trahvi.. samal ajal kui koju inimestele sõitis, valitsuse töötajatele, ja nende pereliikmeid, igast soost ja vanusest väga võikalt ähvardas, öösel ja eranumbritele.. siis kui ta ei saanud mida thatis.
Ühe teadlase peksis töökohapeal läbi... kuid need näputäis asju arvatvatest sadadest ohvritest, ja siiani keegi pole julgenud tema nime ja firmat veel paljastada, kaitstakse...
nu sellise kurjuse maailmas, arvata on, et ei julgeta esile tulla, sest kaitsed on olematud seni kuni mehed meheks ei hakka siin maal ja valitsus valitsuseks
kuid tead ise mis juhtub inimestega, kes oma ametipostil midagi sellist lekitavad..
seda "kiusajast" ärimehe lugu lugesid expressis, ... to sadu inimesi terroriseerinud, peksnud kontroites neid, valitsuse töötajaid hirmu all hoidnud aastaid ja osad töö lõpetasid elektroonilise järelvalve ametis ... ja kohtus mees sai ainult 12 inimesele lähenemiskeelu ja paartuhat trahvi.. samal ajal kui koju inimestele sõitis, valitsuse töötajatele, ja nende pereliikmeid, igast soost ja vanusest väga võikalt ähvardas, öösel ja eranumbritele.. siis kui ta ei saanud mida thatis.
Ühe teadlase peksis töökohapeal läbi... kuid need näputäis asju arvatvatest sadadest ohvritest, ja siiani keegi pole julgenud tema nime ja firmat veel paljastada, kaitstakse...
nu sellise kurjuse maailmas, arvata on, et ei julgeta esile tulla, sest kaitsed on olematud seni kuni mehed meheks ei hakka siin maal ja valitsus valitsuseks
3 March 2017 21:38
Margus Meigo commented on John Greenewald's post.
Group: The Black Vault - UFOs, Conspiracies, Cover-Ups and Controversies
Dont they have money and time for proper food and drinks
but yea.. what is it about
DoD know perhaps better3 March 2017 21:21
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
i assume
i just had this pink jewish toothbrash from them, so i thoght to make small post
i just had this pink jewish toothbrash from them, so i thoght to make small post
3 March 2017 12:06
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
good
3 March 2017 12:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Underground musicians in the Jordanian capital are on a mission: to resist the mainstream.
It isn’t visible from the sidewalk, and you have to know your destination in order to find it.
Go down a set of stairs leading from the street in Amman’s commercial Swefieh neighborhood, and you’ll find iPlay, a small music school and store that is one of only a handful of spots in Jordan’s capital selling musical instruments that don’t cater to traditional Arabic music. Violins, a few keyboards, drum sets, and finally a rack of acoustic and electric guitars are on display.
A customer, in his early twenties, picks up an acoustic guitar from the display and fills the room with a beautiful flamenco tune while Wassim Qasis, an employee, restrings a guitar on the counter.
A lot of people are playing Spanish guitar in Amman nowadays, Wassim explains. Classical guitar forms are generally accepted, and newcomers can easily learn skills online. However, when asked how Amman’s music scene is in general, he admits it’s “not really great.”
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THE INDEPENDENT musician community in Amman tends to be rather isolated. “When you have a concert,” explains drummer Baha Lahham, “you’re going to accept that you’ll see a musician audience coming. Your fan base is basically other musicians.”
On the other hand, mainstream Arabic pop music, with artists mainly from Egypt and Lebanon, tends to be far more popular and draw larger crowds. “Most of the people here, if they want to go out to see an Arabic singer, they’ll find a big audience. It has a big base here,” says Baha.
This leaves few outlets for non-mainstream music. Amman offers a handful of Western Top 40-style radio stations as well as a classic rock station, but these sources hardly reflect the styles of the city’s numerous independent artists, who are exploring an eclectic variety of less-mainstream genres from blues to jazz fusion to electronic. Amman also offers precious few live venues for musicians to perform their work and share new sounds.
Go back several decades and it’s a different story altogether. William Khoury, Jordan’s first professional DJ, recalls a time in the ‘70’s and ‘80’s when Amman’s music scene felt a lot more like that of Beirut, the city famed as the party capital of the Middle East. When William visited the coastal Lebanese city during the late ‘70’s, during the start of Lebanon’s fifteen-year civil war, he was inspired by the upbeat, carefree vibe of the nightlife. “I went to Beirut and I just couldn’t say a word. They did it right – there was taste.” All this was despite the bloody sectarian violence raging in the tiny Mediterranean state. “The Lebanese people don’t care if there’s war.” To William, the party and the music seemed to simply go on
http://www.yourmiddleeast.com/culture/the-promise-of-ammans-independent-music-scene_32052
It isn’t visible from the sidewalk, and you have to know your destination in order to find it.
Go down a set of stairs leading from the street in Amman’s commercial Swefieh neighborhood, and you’ll find iPlay, a small music school and store that is one of only a handful of spots in Jordan’s capital selling musical instruments that don’t cater to traditional Arabic music. Violins, a few keyboards, drum sets, and finally a rack of acoustic and electric guitars are on display.
A customer, in his early twenties, picks up an acoustic guitar from the display and fills the room with a beautiful flamenco tune while Wassim Qasis, an employee, restrings a guitar on the counter.
A lot of people are playing Spanish guitar in Amman nowadays, Wassim explains. Classical guitar forms are generally accepted, and newcomers can easily learn skills online. However, when asked how Amman’s music scene is in general, he admits it’s “not really great.”
--
THE INDEPENDENT musician community in Amman tends to be rather isolated. “When you have a concert,” explains drummer Baha Lahham, “you’re going to accept that you’ll see a musician audience coming. Your fan base is basically other musicians.”
On the other hand, mainstream Arabic pop music, with artists mainly from Egypt and Lebanon, tends to be far more popular and draw larger crowds. “Most of the people here, if they want to go out to see an Arabic singer, they’ll find a big audience. It has a big base here,” says Baha.
This leaves few outlets for non-mainstream music. Amman offers a handful of Western Top 40-style radio stations as well as a classic rock station, but these sources hardly reflect the styles of the city’s numerous independent artists, who are exploring an eclectic variety of less-mainstream genres from blues to jazz fusion to electronic. Amman also offers precious few live venues for musicians to perform their work and share new sounds.
Go back several decades and it’s a different story altogether. William Khoury, Jordan’s first professional DJ, recalls a time in the ‘70’s and ‘80’s when Amman’s music scene felt a lot more like that of Beirut, the city famed as the party capital of the Middle East. When William visited the coastal Lebanese city during the late ‘70’s, during the start of Lebanon’s fifteen-year civil war, he was inspired by the upbeat, carefree vibe of the nightlife. “I went to Beirut and I just couldn’t say a word. They did it right – there was taste.” All this was despite the bloody sectarian violence raging in the tiny Mediterranean state. “The Lebanese people don’t care if there’s war.” To William, the party and the music seemed to simply go on
http://www.yourmiddleeast.com/culture/the-promise-of-ammans-independent-music-scene_32052
http://www.yourmiddleeast.com/culture/the-promise-of-ammans-independent-music-scene_32052
3 March 2017 12:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Culture and Customs of Jordan
https://books.google.ee/books?id=dm7Ups_zsbcC&pg=PA45&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
Sociolinguistics: An International Handbook of the Science of ..., Part 3
https://books.google.ee/books?id=LMZm0w0k1c4C&pg=PA1921&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
https://books.google.ee/books?id=dm7Ups_zsbcC&pg=PA45&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
Sociolinguistics: An International Handbook of the Science of ..., Part 3
https://books.google.ee/books?id=LMZm0w0k1c4C&pg=PA1921&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
https://books.google.ee/books?id=dm7Ups_zsbcC&pg=PA45&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
3 March 2017 11:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The official language is Modern Standard Arabic, a literary language taught in the schools. Most Jordanians natively speak one of the non-standard Arabic dialects known as Jordanian Arabic. Jordanian Sign Language is the language of the deaf community. English, though without official status, is widely spoken throughout the country and is the de facto language of commerce and banking, as well as a co-official status in the education sector; almost all university-level classes are held in English and almost all public schools teach English along with Standard Arabic.
Chechen, Circassian, Armenian, Tagalog, and Russian are popular among their communities. French is elective in many schools, mainly in the private sector.
German is an increasingly popular language among the elite and the educated; it's been most likely introduced at a larger scale after the début of the German-Jordanian University in 2005.
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The growing interest in Germany, she noted, is evident in the number of students learning German at the institute, explaining that between 2010 and 2014, the number of students has almost doubled.
Schools have taken note of that, and started to offer German classes.
There are currently 10 schools teaching German in Jordan. Of these, three have joined Germany’s Partner School Initiative (PASCH).
The programme is a global network that promotes learning German as a foreign language. It was initiated in 2008 and today includes more than 1,500 schools from different countries all over the world.
The Ahliyyah and Bishop School, Al Asriyya School and Jubilee School are members of PASCH, according to Simonis, who also coordinates the initiative in Jordan.
In order to become part of PASCH, schools have to fulfil certain requirements, she said.
“Teachers have to attend five advanced training courses a year; students have to partake in different workshops; and the curriculum of the schools has to be adapted as well.”
Simonis organises the workshops for teachers and students, coaches the school organisation staff and supervises the lessons. Apart from language classes, activities also include singing, theatre and photo workshops.
“Schools that are part of the network receive special support from the German government,” she explained
http://www.jordantimes.com/news/local/german-language-becoming-opportunity-professional-development%E2%80%99
Chechen, Circassian, Armenian, Tagalog, and Russian are popular among their communities. French is elective in many schools, mainly in the private sector.
German is an increasingly popular language among the elite and the educated; it's been most likely introduced at a larger scale after the début of the German-Jordanian University in 2005.
--
The growing interest in Germany, she noted, is evident in the number of students learning German at the institute, explaining that between 2010 and 2014, the number of students has almost doubled.
Schools have taken note of that, and started to offer German classes.
There are currently 10 schools teaching German in Jordan. Of these, three have joined Germany’s Partner School Initiative (PASCH).
The programme is a global network that promotes learning German as a foreign language. It was initiated in 2008 and today includes more than 1,500 schools from different countries all over the world.
The Ahliyyah and Bishop School, Al Asriyya School and Jubilee School are members of PASCH, according to Simonis, who also coordinates the initiative in Jordan.
In order to become part of PASCH, schools have to fulfil certain requirements, she said.
“Teachers have to attend five advanced training courses a year; students have to partake in different workshops; and the curriculum of the schools has to be adapted as well.”
Simonis organises the workshops for teachers and students, coaches the school organisation staff and supervises the lessons. Apart from language classes, activities also include singing, theatre and photo workshops.
“Schools that are part of the network receive special support from the German government,” she explained
http://www.jordantimes.com/news/local/german-language-becoming-opportunity-professional-development%E2%80%99
http://www.jordantimes.com/news/local/german-language-becoming-opportunity-professional-development%E2%80%99
3 March 2017 11:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" look at L eban on "
Christian Palestinians also lead the two main factions making up the P.L.O. along with Yasir Arafat's Fatah group. George Habash, head of the Marxist Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and his deputy, Wadi Haddad, are Christians, as is Nayef Hawatmeh, who runs the similarly radical Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine. Mr. Arafat's former information chief, Kamal Nasir, assassinated in 1973, was a Christian.
According to a Western diplomat, Christians are ''conspiciously prominent'' at lower levels, too.
Bishop Khoury describes himself as a moderate, opposed to violence. But he still draws a distinction between resistance and terrorism. ''To resist injustice is a virtue,'' he said. ''Look how you in the West still glorify the resistance movements in the Second World War.''
King Hussein of Jordan gives his country's Christian minority preferential political treatment. Traditionally, Christians occupy two Cabinet posts, though a Christian has never been Prime Minister or commanded the armed forces.
In addition, Christians fill 10 reserved seats in the country's 60-seat Parliament. Christian Arabs, helped by their Western-oriented education and often superior knowledge of foreign languages, dominate business. A recent study by a Western embassy concluded that almost half of Jordan's leading business families are Christian and most Palestinian Christian.
The comfortable position of Jordan's Christian minority owes much to King Hussein's efforts to maintain good relations with his uninvited Palestinian guests without incurring Israel's wrath. But relations between the King and the Palestinians became strained last year after the P.L.O. rejected his Middle East initiative because it required recognition of Israel.
The King still accepts the P.L.O. as the Palestinian people's representative, but he has closed most P.L.O. offices in Jordan, refused permission to set up a Palestinian Open University and cracked down on P.L.O. military operations against Israel. In 1970, the Jordanian Army fought pitched battles against the P.L.O.
''Everything is getting difficult again,'' Dr. Nasir, Bir Zeit University's president, said. 'Minor' Discrimination Noted
Many Christian Arabs fear that the continuing political deadlock in the Middle East will play into the hands of extremists and make their own position more vulnerable.
''Look at Lebanon, the country where Moslems, Christians and Jews got on well,'' Bishop Khoury said. ''If extremism prevails we will have to find ourselves another place.''
Christian Palestinians also lead the two main factions making up the P.L.O. along with Yasir Arafat's Fatah group. George Habash, head of the Marxist Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and his deputy, Wadi Haddad, are Christians, as is Nayef Hawatmeh, who runs the similarly radical Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine. Mr. Arafat's former information chief, Kamal Nasir, assassinated in 1973, was a Christian.
According to a Western diplomat, Christians are ''conspiciously prominent'' at lower levels, too.
Bishop Khoury describes himself as a moderate, opposed to violence. But he still draws a distinction between resistance and terrorism. ''To resist injustice is a virtue,'' he said. ''Look how you in the West still glorify the resistance movements in the Second World War.''
King Hussein of Jordan gives his country's Christian minority preferential political treatment. Traditionally, Christians occupy two Cabinet posts, though a Christian has never been Prime Minister or commanded the armed forces.
In addition, Christians fill 10 reserved seats in the country's 60-seat Parliament. Christian Arabs, helped by their Western-oriented education and often superior knowledge of foreign languages, dominate business. A recent study by a Western embassy concluded that almost half of Jordan's leading business families are Christian and most Palestinian Christian.
The comfortable position of Jordan's Christian minority owes much to King Hussein's efforts to maintain good relations with his uninvited Palestinian guests without incurring Israel's wrath. But relations between the King and the Palestinians became strained last year after the P.L.O. rejected his Middle East initiative because it required recognition of Israel.
The King still accepts the P.L.O. as the Palestinian people's representative, but he has closed most P.L.O. offices in Jordan, refused permission to set up a Palestinian Open University and cracked down on P.L.O. military operations against Israel. In 1970, the Jordanian Army fought pitched battles against the P.L.O.
''Everything is getting difficult again,'' Dr. Nasir, Bir Zeit University's president, said. 'Minor' Discrimination Noted
Many Christian Arabs fear that the continuing political deadlock in the Middle East will play into the hands of extremists and make their own position more vulnerable.
''Look at Lebanon, the country where Moslems, Christians and Jews got on well,'' Bishop Khoury said. ''If extremism prevails we will have to find ourselves another place.''
3 March 2017 11:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
one newspaper seems as terrible to have 1.2 seats another one as positive:
" The clergyman, Bishop Eliya Khoury, who kissed the Cardinal on both cheeks, is the Palestinian-born leader of Jordan's 5,000-member Anglican Arab population.
He is also in his second term as a member of the Executive Committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization.
Christian Arabs, survivors of a 2,000-year-old religious tradition, are playing a role out of proportion to their numbers in the fight against Israel and in the affairs of Jordan. Most of the Christian Arabs here are members of the 1.4 million-strong community of Palestinian exiles who now make up over half of Jordon's population. A Proof of Their Sincerity
''We have suffered as much as the Moslems,'' Bishop Khoury said in an interview at his church here, explaining the political activism of Palestinian Christians.
But like most experts he thinks this activism is also intended to prove that the Christians are as much Arabs as the Moslems.
''As a minority we feel a need to prove our sincerity,'' he said. ''It's hard for the Moslems to forget that Christians created Israel.''
In his history of Arab Christianty, ''Christians in the Arab East,'' the American scholar Robert E. Betts writes, ''Christian refugees from Palestine have shown themselves to be even more bitter, if this were possible, than their Moslem counterparts.''
Christian Arabs account for about 2 percent of the indigenous population of Jordan and 6 to 7 per cent of its total population, including Palestinians. Numbering about 200,000 in all, they consist mainly of Greek Orthodox, with smaller numbers of Roman Catholics, Protestants and others.
At Christmas time their influence is apparent in the easygoing religious atmosphere that infuses the capital of this predominantly Moslem country, where even modest shops and stalls display twinkling Christmas trees.
It is apparent, too, in Bishop Khoury's seat on the P.L.O.'s Executive Committee, which has been held by a Christian since the organization's foundation in 1966. At the Top of P.L.O. Factions
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/01/07/world/jordan-s-christian-arabs-a-small-minority-play-a-major-role.html
" The clergyman, Bishop Eliya Khoury, who kissed the Cardinal on both cheeks, is the Palestinian-born leader of Jordan's 5,000-member Anglican Arab population.
He is also in his second term as a member of the Executive Committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization.
Christian Arabs, survivors of a 2,000-year-old religious tradition, are playing a role out of proportion to their numbers in the fight against Israel and in the affairs of Jordan. Most of the Christian Arabs here are members of the 1.4 million-strong community of Palestinian exiles who now make up over half of Jordon's population. A Proof of Their Sincerity
''We have suffered as much as the Moslems,'' Bishop Khoury said in an interview at his church here, explaining the political activism of Palestinian Christians.
But like most experts he thinks this activism is also intended to prove that the Christians are as much Arabs as the Moslems.
''As a minority we feel a need to prove our sincerity,'' he said. ''It's hard for the Moslems to forget that Christians created Israel.''
In his history of Arab Christianty, ''Christians in the Arab East,'' the American scholar Robert E. Betts writes, ''Christian refugees from Palestine have shown themselves to be even more bitter, if this were possible, than their Moslem counterparts.''
Christian Arabs account for about 2 percent of the indigenous population of Jordan and 6 to 7 per cent of its total population, including Palestinians. Numbering about 200,000 in all, they consist mainly of Greek Orthodox, with smaller numbers of Roman Catholics, Protestants and others.
At Christmas time their influence is apparent in the easygoing religious atmosphere that infuses the capital of this predominantly Moslem country, where even modest shops and stalls display twinkling Christmas trees.
It is apparent, too, in Bishop Khoury's seat on the P.L.O.'s Executive Committee, which has been held by a Christian since the organization's foundation in 1966. At the Top of P.L.O. Factions
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/01/07/world/jordan-s-christian-arabs-a-small-minority-play-a-major-role.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/01/07/world/jordan-s-christian-arabs-a-small-minority-play-a-major-role.html
3 March 2017 11:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
then again:
"The Muslim monarchies of the Gulf put the Middle Eastern states of Egypt, Sudan, Iran, Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Israel and Jordan (where Christianity was born) to shame in 2005 when Alice Simaan, a Christian member of the Bahraini parliament representing the kingdom’s 1,000 strong community, chaired a parliamentary session for the first time in the region’s history. When the veteran Israeli-Arab Christian parliamentarian Azmi Bishara was accused of treason by the Israeli authorities in 2007, he sought refuge in Qatar, a Muslim Gulf monarchy with no native Christian community, rather than Egypt or Jordan. In the UAE, the Arab Christian community has contributed substantially to the country’s development; the founder of the American University of Dubai, the representative of the UAE in the International Advertisers Association and senior advisers to the rulers hail from this successful community.
Kuwait made a Christian citizen from its 200-strong minority ambassador to Japan in the 1990s, and the Kuwaiti pastor Emmanuel al Ghareeb heads the state-sanctioned Church of Kuwait. Paradoxically, it is common to find Arab Christians proportionally enjoying more economic and social success in the Muslim Arab countries of the Gulf than in the lands that gave birth to Christianity.
Last week the Chaldean Archbishop Louis Sako of Iraq cautioned that his community is facing extinction because of the horrendous crimes of the terrorists and thugs who target the largely apolitical and passive community, believing it to be wealthy. Christians are kidnapped and held for ransom, and in many cases are murdered in cold blood, as in the case of the late Chaldean archbishop of Mosul, Paul Rahho; and the Iraqi government stands idle.
Arab Christians of all denominations should not only be protected, like all minorities, but also encouraged to flourish as they have in the Gulf. They must be allowed to exercise full control over their communities and interests in their own countries as they are an integral part of the mosaic that makes up the Middle East. The Muslim majority ought to put themselves in the place of their Christian Arab brothers and sisters and give them the same rights that they would be demanding had Muslims been the minority instead.
No community today is so targeted by violent thugs for no reason other than sheer bigotry as are the Christians of Iraq. They have had their churches bombed and their priests kidnapped and murdered and yet they persevere with dignity and passive resistance. The Christian community in Iraq do not take to armed conflict and violence against the criminals who want to drive them out because they have kept in mind the words of Mahatma Gandhi, inspired by the teachings of a sage who preached 2,000 years ago in the Holy Lands: “An eye for an eye, and soon the whole world is blind.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sultan-sooud-alqassemi/shameful-plight-of-the-mi_b_203319.html
"The Muslim monarchies of the Gulf put the Middle Eastern states of Egypt, Sudan, Iran, Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Israel and Jordan (where Christianity was born) to shame in 2005 when Alice Simaan, a Christian member of the Bahraini parliament representing the kingdom’s 1,000 strong community, chaired a parliamentary session for the first time in the region’s history. When the veteran Israeli-Arab Christian parliamentarian Azmi Bishara was accused of treason by the Israeli authorities in 2007, he sought refuge in Qatar, a Muslim Gulf monarchy with no native Christian community, rather than Egypt or Jordan. In the UAE, the Arab Christian community has contributed substantially to the country’s development; the founder of the American University of Dubai, the representative of the UAE in the International Advertisers Association and senior advisers to the rulers hail from this successful community.
Kuwait made a Christian citizen from its 200-strong minority ambassador to Japan in the 1990s, and the Kuwaiti pastor Emmanuel al Ghareeb heads the state-sanctioned Church of Kuwait. Paradoxically, it is common to find Arab Christians proportionally enjoying more economic and social success in the Muslim Arab countries of the Gulf than in the lands that gave birth to Christianity.
Last week the Chaldean Archbishop Louis Sako of Iraq cautioned that his community is facing extinction because of the horrendous crimes of the terrorists and thugs who target the largely apolitical and passive community, believing it to be wealthy. Christians are kidnapped and held for ransom, and in many cases are murdered in cold blood, as in the case of the late Chaldean archbishop of Mosul, Paul Rahho; and the Iraqi government stands idle.
Arab Christians of all denominations should not only be protected, like all minorities, but also encouraged to flourish as they have in the Gulf. They must be allowed to exercise full control over their communities and interests in their own countries as they are an integral part of the mosaic that makes up the Middle East. The Muslim majority ought to put themselves in the place of their Christian Arab brothers and sisters and give them the same rights that they would be demanding had Muslims been the minority instead.
No community today is so targeted by violent thugs for no reason other than sheer bigotry as are the Christians of Iraq. They have had their churches bombed and their priests kidnapped and murdered and yet they persevere with dignity and passive resistance. The Christian community in Iraq do not take to armed conflict and violence against the criminals who want to drive them out because they have kept in mind the words of Mahatma Gandhi, inspired by the teachings of a sage who preached 2,000 years ago in the Holy Lands: “An eye for an eye, and soon the whole world is blind.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sultan-sooud-alqassemi/shameful-plight-of-the-mi_b_203319.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sultan-sooud-alqassemi/shameful-plight-of-the-mi_b_203319.html
3 March 2017 11:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Episcopal Church in Jordan: Identity, Liturgy, and Mission
http://www.academia.edu/1482555/The_Episcopal_Church_in_Jordan_Identity_Liturgy_and_Mission
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Minoriy rights
https://books.google.ee/books?id=S5mRxprCL9MC&pg=PA135&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://www.academia.edu/1482555/The_Episcopal_Church_in_Jordan_Identity_Liturgy_and_Mission
and
Minoriy rights
https://books.google.ee/books?id=S5mRxprCL9MC&pg=PA135&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://www.academia.edu/1482555/The_Episcopal_Church_in_Jordan_Identity_Liturgy_and_Mission
3 March 2017 11:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The pope has sought better ties between Christians and Muslims. But in Fuhays, devotion to the land comes first, even if it means taking drastic measures to keep out outsiders. "
"Hattar fishes up another story, one to show that life in the hills is also calibrated on respect and mutual interests.
Once, centuries ago, an Arab warlord from deserts away wandered in and wanted to marry a Christian girl from a Fuhays tribe. The elders were opposed and secretly sought help from a neighboring Muslim clan, which didn't want a foreign interloper, even if he practiced Islam, among them. The Muslim clan told the Fuhays to invite the warlord to dinner, but to put no salt in his food. When the intruder tasted his meal, he knew he wasn't welcome, but when he tried to escape, the Muslim clan surrounded him and cut off his head.
Devotion to the land is rooted deeper in the soul than religion, and tribes in this country -- no matter their creed or enmities -- unite against a common outside enemy. It's a story as unyielding as the hills, where gusts blow so hard pine trees grow slanted and seeds scatter if not pushed down into the ground.
Hattar walks upstairs to his roof; before him, the valley unfurls like a kicked rug and narrows in the distance where a road disappears into the shadow of another spine of hills. This land used to have many more shepherds, including one -- yet another story -- who walked into a butcher's shop years ago. He sat and lighted a cigarette and stared at a painting of a bearded man with a glow around him, tending sheep. It was Jesus, but the shepherd did not know about Jesus, so he asked the butcher: "Is that your father?"
Hattar laughs. That is a tale told often in the markets, on the ridges.
"This is my land, olives, figs and grapes," he says. "The pope doesn't understand the complexities of the region. But I'm a Catholic, so I defend him. He won't be around forever."
He walks downstairs, past blocks of dried yogurt that look like stones and are leavened with salt. Eight women sit around a table in a room off the foyer. One of them is his mother, Widad. She and the others talk and laugh and roll out date cookies for the birthday of one of her 37 grandchildren. She first says she has 34, but then counts and corrects herself.
Widad saw Pope Paul VI in 1964. She saw Pope John Paul II in 2000, and she and the local nuns will attend Benedict's Mass today in the Amman stadium.
She rolls, hands sticky with dough, faint with flour. Her husband, the former priest and her first cousin, Sulaiman, was 96 when he died. Around her, rolling cookies, are the family and voices they created to watch over the land.
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"Hattar fishes up another story, one to show that life in the hills is also calibrated on respect and mutual interests.
Once, centuries ago, an Arab warlord from deserts away wandered in and wanted to marry a Christian girl from a Fuhays tribe. The elders were opposed and secretly sought help from a neighboring Muslim clan, which didn't want a foreign interloper, even if he practiced Islam, among them. The Muslim clan told the Fuhays to invite the warlord to dinner, but to put no salt in his food. When the intruder tasted his meal, he knew he wasn't welcome, but when he tried to escape, the Muslim clan surrounded him and cut off his head.
Devotion to the land is rooted deeper in the soul than religion, and tribes in this country -- no matter their creed or enmities -- unite against a common outside enemy. It's a story as unyielding as the hills, where gusts blow so hard pine trees grow slanted and seeds scatter if not pushed down into the ground.
Hattar walks upstairs to his roof; before him, the valley unfurls like a kicked rug and narrows in the distance where a road disappears into the shadow of another spine of hills. This land used to have many more shepherds, including one -- yet another story -- who walked into a butcher's shop years ago. He sat and lighted a cigarette and stared at a painting of a bearded man with a glow around him, tending sheep. It was Jesus, but the shepherd did not know about Jesus, so he asked the butcher: "Is that your father?"
Hattar laughs. That is a tale told often in the markets, on the ridges.
"This is my land, olives, figs and grapes," he says. "The pope doesn't understand the complexities of the region. But I'm a Catholic, so I defend him. He won't be around forever."
He walks downstairs, past blocks of dried yogurt that look like stones and are leavened with salt. Eight women sit around a table in a room off the foyer. One of them is his mother, Widad. She and the others talk and laugh and roll out date cookies for the birthday of one of her 37 grandchildren. She first says she has 34, but then counts and corrects herself.
Widad saw Pope Paul VI in 1964. She saw Pope John Paul II in 2000, and she and the local nuns will attend Benedict's Mass today in the Amman stadium.
She rolls, hands sticky with dough, faint with flour. Her husband, the former priest and her first cousin, Sulaiman, was 96 when he died. Around her, rolling cookies, are the family and voices they created to watch over the land.
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3 March 2017 11:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
This Christian enclave west of the Jordanian capital, Amman, is ringed with steeples and religious devotion, but for every Bible parable there is a tribal tale, usually one that ends with someone outfoxed or dead. Clan loyalty sets boundaries, keeps the peace and runs on customs, such as sprinkling extra salt into a meal to let a guest know he is welcome. If there's no salt, it's wise to make a hasty exit.
Hattar, a balding man with white hair and dark eyebrows, sits in his home near a statue of the Virgin Mary. There's wind and anticipation outside. Pope Benedict XVI is in Jordan on a three-day pilgrimage to improve relations between Christians and Muslims. Hattar says that's a noble effort, if perhaps more spiritual than practical, and besides, the pope is too friendly with the Jews across the border in Israel.
"You know, coexisting with Muslims is difficult," he says, choosing his words so as to convey truth but not offend. It is the way of conversation here, to let nuance reach the heart. "Muslims don't accept others. They want everyone like them. We show them friendship. They don't show outward hostility, but you feel it inside your soul."
In 1950, Christians made up about 30% of the Jordanian population. That's dropped to less than 4% in this overwhelmingly Islamic nation where Jesus was baptized and Moses was buried. Most Christians, like Hattar's brother and four sisters, left for better opportunities in Europe, the United States and Canada.
Holding on to tribal lands is approached with more sanctity than taking Communion; when a Palestinian recently bought property on the hillside, Hattar went down to make sure his new neighbor had the New Testament, not the Koran.
"We don't sell land to Muslims. We don't want mosques amidst us," he says. "Once, in the 1960s, a Christian man from the tribe wanted to sell his land to a Muslim. The priest gathered other men and they went to this man's house. They asked him, 'Why are you doing this?' He told him he needed money, 10,000 dinars. The priest and the men gave him 10,000 dinars and then they beat him and threatened to kill him if he ever sold land to a Muslim."
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/may/10/world/fg-tribal-catholic10
Hattar, a balding man with white hair and dark eyebrows, sits in his home near a statue of the Virgin Mary. There's wind and anticipation outside. Pope Benedict XVI is in Jordan on a three-day pilgrimage to improve relations between Christians and Muslims. Hattar says that's a noble effort, if perhaps more spiritual than practical, and besides, the pope is too friendly with the Jews across the border in Israel.
"You know, coexisting with Muslims is difficult," he says, choosing his words so as to convey truth but not offend. It is the way of conversation here, to let nuance reach the heart. "Muslims don't accept others. They want everyone like them. We show them friendship. They don't show outward hostility, but you feel it inside your soul."
In 1950, Christians made up about 30% of the Jordanian population. That's dropped to less than 4% in this overwhelmingly Islamic nation where Jesus was baptized and Moses was buried. Most Christians, like Hattar's brother and four sisters, left for better opportunities in Europe, the United States and Canada.
Holding on to tribal lands is approached with more sanctity than taking Communion; when a Palestinian recently bought property on the hillside, Hattar went down to make sure his new neighbor had the New Testament, not the Koran.
"We don't sell land to Muslims. We don't want mosques amidst us," he says. "Once, in the 1960s, a Christian man from the tribe wanted to sell his land to a Muslim. The priest gathered other men and they went to this man's house. They asked him, 'Why are you doing this?' He told him he needed money, 10,000 dinars. The priest and the men gave him 10,000 dinars and then they beat him and threatened to kill him if he ever sold land to a Muslim."
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/may/10/world/fg-tribal-catholic10
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/may/10/world/fg-tribal-catholic10
3 March 2017 11:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Jordan contains some of the oldest Christian communities in the world, dating as early as the 1st century AD after the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. Christians today make up about 4% of the population, down from 20% in 1930. ] This is due to high immigration rates of Muslims into Jordan, higher emigration rates of Christians to the west and higher birth rates for Muslims. Jordanian Christians number around 250,000, all of whom are Arabic-speaking, according to a 2014 estimate by the Orthodox Church. The study excluded minority Christian groups and the thousands of western, Iraqi and Syrian Christians residing in Jordan. Christians are exceptionally well integrated in the Jordanian society and enjoy a high level of freedom, though they are not free to evangelize Muslims. Christians traditionally occupy two cabinet posts, and are reserved 9 seats out of the 130 in the parliament.[ The highest political position reached by a Christian is deputy prime minister, held by Marwan al-Muasher in 2005. Christians are also influential in media.[ Smaller religious minorities include Druze and Bahá'ís. Most Jordanian Druze live in the eastern oasis town of Azraq, some villages on the Syrian border, and the city of Zarqa, while most Jordanian Bahá'ís live in the village of Adassiyeh bordering the Jordan Valley
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With Jordan stepping up its role in the international coalition against ISIL, Jordanians, and especially minority groups, are aware that they could become a target for militants seeking to create instability.
"Jordan will be a target for Daesh, and they manoeuvre with many instruments," said Atef Kawar, a Jordanian Christian parliamentarian, using an alternative name for ISIL. "All of us are targets."
Still, despite the threat, ISIL is likely to have more difficulty finding sympathisers in Jordan than in Syria and Iraq.
"The rules and laws here don’t discriminate," said Mr Kawar, describing the religious tolerance in Jordan. He said the main differences in Jordan were between Palestinians and Jordanians, rather than between religious groups, as people compete for jobs and government assistance.
Jordanian Christians also have strong ties to the royal family, are well represented in business, and have nine seats reserved for them in the 150 member House of Representatives
http://www.thenational.ae/world/middle-east/jordan-the-safe-haven-for-christians-fleeing-isil#full
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With Jordan stepping up its role in the international coalition against ISIL, Jordanians, and especially minority groups, are aware that they could become a target for militants seeking to create instability.
"Jordan will be a target for Daesh, and they manoeuvre with many instruments," said Atef Kawar, a Jordanian Christian parliamentarian, using an alternative name for ISIL. "All of us are targets."
Still, despite the threat, ISIL is likely to have more difficulty finding sympathisers in Jordan than in Syria and Iraq.
"The rules and laws here don’t discriminate," said Mr Kawar, describing the religious tolerance in Jordan. He said the main differences in Jordan were between Palestinians and Jordanians, rather than between religious groups, as people compete for jobs and government assistance.
Jordanian Christians also have strong ties to the royal family, are well represented in business, and have nine seats reserved for them in the 150 member House of Representatives
http://www.thenational.ae/world/middle-east/jordan-the-safe-haven-for-christians-fleeing-isil#full
http://www.thenational.ae/world/middle-east/jordan-the-safe-haven-for-christians-fleeing-isil#full
3 March 2017 11:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Local and foreign observers
Kalaldeh said that between 7,000 to 10,000 local observers are expected to monitor the elections, noting that the IEC will send invitations to 52 international monitoring agencies, particularly from the EU and the US.
“Anyone or any entity interested in observing the ballots, either local or foreign, can fill online applications posted on the commission’s website.” The website is: www.entikhabat.jo
September polls in numbers
On the number of eligible voters, Kalaldeh said it is over 4.5 million people as shown by initial electoral lists, adding that the IEC will receive what he termed as “clean lists” from the Civil Status and Passport Department after dropping the names of army and security agencies personnel in addition to convicts whose crimes deprive them of the right to vote.
This final list would include the names of around 4.3 million voters, he said, adding that registration in the upcoming elections will be done automatically.
“People do not have to go to offices and register for the elections,” he said.
Kalaldeh said that the September elections may allow those who reached 18 years of age to vote; this would add 200,000 new young voters.
“The commission is waiting the answer from the Law Interpretation Bureau in this regard. It is whether those who reached 18 or completed 18.”
Kalaldeh said that 1,484 to 1,952 voting centres will be distributed across the Kingdom’s 23 constituencies, adding that ballot boxes will be around 4,500 to 6,000.
On the number of employees to supervise and run the elections, he said that around 40,000 to 50,000 people are expected to help in the polls, in addition to more than 5,000 volunteers from universities who will be assisting elderly people and people with disabilities.
Special centres for the deaf and the blind will be allocated across the country, he said.
Candidates and spending
Candidates can register for elections on August 16 for three days, Kalaldeh said.
On political money used for vote buying, he said the IEC will not tolerate any attempt of electoral fraud if there was sufficient evidence.
The chief commissioner said the IEC has set a ceiling for campaign spending for lists.
In large cities such as Amman, Irbid and Zarqa, he said the spending and promotion campaign will be based on JD5 per each voter. For example, if the city has 200,000 voters, a list should spend no more than JD1 million. Spending will be under the supervision of auditors.
Next parliament and Jordanians’ expectations
Asked if he sees the next parliament as able to meet the expectations of Jordanians, Kalaldeh, who has served as minister of political and parliamentary affairs for more than three years, said the Election Law allows coalitions between parties and as well as coalitions between tribes and between parties and tribes.
“There is no more closed, small constituencies where voters’ support can be bought by political money,” he said.
“But the outcome is in citizens’ hands. If someone sits at home and rejects to vote, the candidate he does not want to win will win.
“So my message to people: Go out and vote.”
/ / and u still have put pentagrams on image
Kalaldeh said that between 7,000 to 10,000 local observers are expected to monitor the elections, noting that the IEC will send invitations to 52 international monitoring agencies, particularly from the EU and the US.
“Anyone or any entity interested in observing the ballots, either local or foreign, can fill online applications posted on the commission’s website.” The website is: www.entikhabat.jo
September polls in numbers
On the number of eligible voters, Kalaldeh said it is over 4.5 million people as shown by initial electoral lists, adding that the IEC will receive what he termed as “clean lists” from the Civil Status and Passport Department after dropping the names of army and security agencies personnel in addition to convicts whose crimes deprive them of the right to vote.
This final list would include the names of around 4.3 million voters, he said, adding that registration in the upcoming elections will be done automatically.
“People do not have to go to offices and register for the elections,” he said.
Kalaldeh said that the September elections may allow those who reached 18 years of age to vote; this would add 200,000 new young voters.
“The commission is waiting the answer from the Law Interpretation Bureau in this regard. It is whether those who reached 18 or completed 18.”
Kalaldeh said that 1,484 to 1,952 voting centres will be distributed across the Kingdom’s 23 constituencies, adding that ballot boxes will be around 4,500 to 6,000.
On the number of employees to supervise and run the elections, he said that around 40,000 to 50,000 people are expected to help in the polls, in addition to more than 5,000 volunteers from universities who will be assisting elderly people and people with disabilities.
Special centres for the deaf and the blind will be allocated across the country, he said.
Candidates and spending
Candidates can register for elections on August 16 for three days, Kalaldeh said.
On political money used for vote buying, he said the IEC will not tolerate any attempt of electoral fraud if there was sufficient evidence.
The chief commissioner said the IEC has set a ceiling for campaign spending for lists.
In large cities such as Amman, Irbid and Zarqa, he said the spending and promotion campaign will be based on JD5 per each voter. For example, if the city has 200,000 voters, a list should spend no more than JD1 million. Spending will be under the supervision of auditors.
Next parliament and Jordanians’ expectations
Asked if he sees the next parliament as able to meet the expectations of Jordanians, Kalaldeh, who has served as minister of political and parliamentary affairs for more than three years, said the Election Law allows coalitions between parties and as well as coalitions between tribes and between parties and tribes.
“There is no more closed, small constituencies where voters’ support can be bought by political money,” he said.
“But the outcome is in citizens’ hands. If someone sits at home and rejects to vote, the candidate he does not want to win will win.
“So my message to people: Go out and vote.”
/ / and u still have put pentagrams on image
3 March 2017 11:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Our message to Jordanians is as follows: We will guarantee there won't be a single dark spot in the upcoming elections," he said. "Hopefully, this time no one would claim irregularities in the election process."
Kalaldeh said the IEC’s mission is to manage the elections and to protect the integrity of polls to earn the trust of voters and candidates, adding that the commission is aware that the level of confidence in elections is low because of alleged violations in the past.
Regarding the new measures, he said indelible ink will be compulsory in the upcoming polls in addition to improvements in the election and counting processes as technology will enable people and monitors to keep an eye on all procedures.
“For example, when a voter enters the ballot centre, his or her identity will be checked on paper and on computer. A large screen in front of monitors will show the identity of the person, name and picture,” he explained, adding that during the sorting and counting process, cameras will help monitors see the names of candidates on the ballot.
People will be updated on the vote count as the results in each sorting room will be displayed outside the room where monitors can be kept abreast of the progress, according to the official.
Support by King, authorities
Kalaldeh said that during the two recent meetings between His Majesty King Abdullah and the IEC board of commissioners, the King directed the government and the concerned authorities to offer limitless support to the commission.
His Majesty stressed that no one has authority over the IEC and that no one can interfere in its work, Kalaldeh said.
“Rendering the elections a success and ensuring utter transparency is the commission’s responsibility, its board of commissioners and administrative cadres,” he said.
Islamists ending boycott
Kalaldeh welcomed the Islamic Action Front’s (IAF) decision –– announced earlier this week –– to take part in the upcoming elections.
“Now we will have all political parties and political powers participating in the elections. This is very positive and it entails a greater responsibility for the IEC,” he said.
The IAF, the political arm of the old Muslim Brotherhood and Jordan’s largest opposition party, boycotted the 2010 and 2013 polls citing the “unjust electoral law and vote rigging in 2007”.
Islamists have always objected to the controversial one-person, one-vote electoral system, which was discarded by the new law, and replaced by an at-large voting system in which candidates can run for parliamentary elections on one large multi-member ticket at the district level.
http://jordantimes.com/news/local/iec-chief-promises-flawless-parliamentary-polls-high-tech-will-help
Kalaldeh said the IEC’s mission is to manage the elections and to protect the integrity of polls to earn the trust of voters and candidates, adding that the commission is aware that the level of confidence in elections is low because of alleged violations in the past.
Regarding the new measures, he said indelible ink will be compulsory in the upcoming polls in addition to improvements in the election and counting processes as technology will enable people and monitors to keep an eye on all procedures.
“For example, when a voter enters the ballot centre, his or her identity will be checked on paper and on computer. A large screen in front of monitors will show the identity of the person, name and picture,” he explained, adding that during the sorting and counting process, cameras will help monitors see the names of candidates on the ballot.
People will be updated on the vote count as the results in each sorting room will be displayed outside the room where monitors can be kept abreast of the progress, according to the official.
Support by King, authorities
Kalaldeh said that during the two recent meetings between His Majesty King Abdullah and the IEC board of commissioners, the King directed the government and the concerned authorities to offer limitless support to the commission.
His Majesty stressed that no one has authority over the IEC and that no one can interfere in its work, Kalaldeh said.
“Rendering the elections a success and ensuring utter transparency is the commission’s responsibility, its board of commissioners and administrative cadres,” he said.
Islamists ending boycott
Kalaldeh welcomed the Islamic Action Front’s (IAF) decision –– announced earlier this week –– to take part in the upcoming elections.
“Now we will have all political parties and political powers participating in the elections. This is very positive and it entails a greater responsibility for the IEC,” he said.
The IAF, the political arm of the old Muslim Brotherhood and Jordan’s largest opposition party, boycotted the 2010 and 2013 polls citing the “unjust electoral law and vote rigging in 2007”.
Islamists have always objected to the controversial one-person, one-vote electoral system, which was discarded by the new law, and replaced by an at-large voting system in which candidates can run for parliamentary elections on one large multi-member ticket at the district level.
http://jordantimes.com/news/local/iec-chief-promises-flawless-parliamentary-polls-high-tech-will-help
http://jordantimes.com/news/local/iec-chief-promises-flawless-parliamentary-polls-high-tech-will-help
3 March 2017 11:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Jordanian parliament is currently undergoing reform. Jordan’s constitution established a bicameral National Assembly (Majlis al-Ummah), with a Senate (Majlis al-Aʿyan) as its upper chamber, and a House of Representatives (Majlis al-Nuwwāb) as a lower chamber. The aʿyan (“notables”) of the Senate are appointed by the King to serve a four years term. Elections for the nuwwāb (“deputies”) of the House of Representatives are scheduled at intervals of at least every four years but have frequently been suspended. A small number of seats in the House of Representatives are reserved for women and minorities such as Christians and Circassians. The ninth parliament, elected in 1965, was prorogued several times before being replaced in 1978 by the National Consultative Council, an appointed body with reduced power that debates Government programs and activities. The parliament was reconvened in a special session called in January 1984. Since then, the parliament has been periodically suspended: from 1988, when Jordan severed its ties with the West Bank, until 1989 and from August until November 1993, when the country held its first multiparty elections since 1956. In 2001 the King dissolved the House of Representatives to reformulate the electoral system; new deputies were elected in 2003. In December 2005, the King appointed a new Prime Minister, Marouf Bakhit. Following the contested election of 2007, the King abruptly dissolved the Parliament in November 2009, saying that it had failed to meet the will of the people. At the same time, former Jordanian Prime Minister Nader al Dabi also resigned, and was later replaced by Samir al-Rifai. Although Jordanian law states that a new election date has to be announced within four months of the dissolution of parliament, the King postponed the election until November 2010. In 2012, the King dissolved the House of Representatives midway through the parliament’s term. The last elections were held in January 2013.
https://portal.cor.europa.eu/arlem/jordan/general-division/Pages/default.aspx
https://portal.cor.europa.eu/arlem/jordan/general-division/Pages/default.aspx
https://portal.cor.europa.eu/arlem/jordan/general-division/Pages/default.aspx
3 March 2017 11:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
“You could feel the change,” said Layla Naffa, director of programmes at the Arab Women Organisation, an NGO that fought for the introduction of a women’s quota in 2003. Naffa attributed the shift partly to the replacement of the controversial “one-person, one-vote” system with proportional representation, as a result of which women have become “an asset”, she said.
Under the new electoral law, passed last year, Jordan has been divided into 23 districts. Citizens select from competing lists in their constituency and vote for individual candidates from the same ticket. There is a minimum quota of 15 female members of parliament, at least one from each governorate.
The changes, designed to strengthen political parties and discourage a tradition of voting based on tribal allegiance rather than policy platforms, benefited female candidates on several levels, said Dr Amer Bani Amer, director of Al-Hayat Center, a civil society group that monitors elections through its RASED programme.
“For the first time, we had a large number of female candidates, [with] men and women running together in partnership,” said Amer.
Women appeared in all but six of the 226 party lists, including those of Islamist groups. The increased number of female candidates was accompanied by a vital shift in the perception of women. In the buildup to the election, coalitions anxious to tap into the female vote scrambled to incorporate a woman on their lists. Several all-male groups, slower to recognise the increased advantage of aligning with women, returned after the first day of registration to add a female face.
“It’s a sign of growing acceptance among the public,” said Asma Khader, a former minister in Jordan’s government and chairwoman of the Sisterhood is Global Institute (Sigi), which monitored the election from a gender perspective. “People are now ready to see women’s names and photographs on political campaign posters around the country.”
There were still six lists on which the image of the female candidate was conspicuously absent – replaced by a picture of flowers or animals in deference to conservative sensitivities.
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Elsewhere, a more progressive stance was epitomised by two national lists composed solely of women. “I wanted to make the point that women can match men in politics; that we have a vital role to play in determining this country’s future,” said Dr Noor Zaza, who formed a three-woman list in the country’s capital, Amman.
The strong performance of high-profile female MPs in the previous parliament has contributed to a belief in “women’s ability to do good” and effect change, said Naffa. While some female MPs have simply been “mouthpieces” for the tribes they represent, a few, such as Wafa Bani Mustafa, have taken up pressing causes, including the campaign to overturn the notorious Article 308 of the Penal Code, which grants rapists clemency if they marry their victims.
“Men are not going to raise these issues,” added Naffa, who emphasised the need for more women in the political arena to confront the inequalities women face in Jordan’s justice system.
A campaign to increase the female quota to 23 seats, in line with the re-division of districts under the new law, failed earlier this year. Across Jordan, the allocation for quota seats remains disproportionate, with competition significantly stiffer in certain governorates.
In Amman, Rula al-Hroub, a prominent former MP, lost her seat. A strong voice against corruption and widely known as a fearless critic of the government, al-Hroub made three thwarted attempts to form lists before securing running mates just 24 hours before registration closed.
“None of the men wanted to run with me – they saw me as a threat to their chances of winning the seat,” she said, claiming that strong female candidates are at a disadvantage under the new system.
While the new law is “a good step”, the system needs “further editing” to place women on an equal footing with men, said Dr Amer, citing the example of Tunisia, where lists are required to be gender-equal.
In terms of female representation in parliament, Jordan still lags behind other countries in the region, ranking 13th in the Arab world and 141st globally, according to research conducted by Sigi.
“This is not something that one election can solve,” said Asma Khader, prescribing a “long process of activism” and greater “involvement of women in public and political life.”
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2016/sep/23/jordan-election-women-gain-ground-gender-gap
Under the new electoral law, passed last year, Jordan has been divided into 23 districts. Citizens select from competing lists in their constituency and vote for individual candidates from the same ticket. There is a minimum quota of 15 female members of parliament, at least one from each governorate.
The changes, designed to strengthen political parties and discourage a tradition of voting based on tribal allegiance rather than policy platforms, benefited female candidates on several levels, said Dr Amer Bani Amer, director of Al-Hayat Center, a civil society group that monitors elections through its RASED programme.
“For the first time, we had a large number of female candidates, [with] men and women running together in partnership,” said Amer.
Women appeared in all but six of the 226 party lists, including those of Islamist groups. The increased number of female candidates was accompanied by a vital shift in the perception of women. In the buildup to the election, coalitions anxious to tap into the female vote scrambled to incorporate a woman on their lists. Several all-male groups, slower to recognise the increased advantage of aligning with women, returned after the first day of registration to add a female face.
“It’s a sign of growing acceptance among the public,” said Asma Khader, a former minister in Jordan’s government and chairwoman of the Sisterhood is Global Institute (Sigi), which monitored the election from a gender perspective. “People are now ready to see women’s names and photographs on political campaign posters around the country.”
There were still six lists on which the image of the female candidate was conspicuously absent – replaced by a picture of flowers or animals in deference to conservative sensitivities.
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Elsewhere, a more progressive stance was epitomised by two national lists composed solely of women. “I wanted to make the point that women can match men in politics; that we have a vital role to play in determining this country’s future,” said Dr Noor Zaza, who formed a three-woman list in the country’s capital, Amman.
The strong performance of high-profile female MPs in the previous parliament has contributed to a belief in “women’s ability to do good” and effect change, said Naffa. While some female MPs have simply been “mouthpieces” for the tribes they represent, a few, such as Wafa Bani Mustafa, have taken up pressing causes, including the campaign to overturn the notorious Article 308 of the Penal Code, which grants rapists clemency if they marry their victims.
“Men are not going to raise these issues,” added Naffa, who emphasised the need for more women in the political arena to confront the inequalities women face in Jordan’s justice system.
A campaign to increase the female quota to 23 seats, in line with the re-division of districts under the new law, failed earlier this year. Across Jordan, the allocation for quota seats remains disproportionate, with competition significantly stiffer in certain governorates.
In Amman, Rula al-Hroub, a prominent former MP, lost her seat. A strong voice against corruption and widely known as a fearless critic of the government, al-Hroub made three thwarted attempts to form lists before securing running mates just 24 hours before registration closed.
“None of the men wanted to run with me – they saw me as a threat to their chances of winning the seat,” she said, claiming that strong female candidates are at a disadvantage under the new system.
While the new law is “a good step”, the system needs “further editing” to place women on an equal footing with men, said Dr Amer, citing the example of Tunisia, where lists are required to be gender-equal.
In terms of female representation in parliament, Jordan still lags behind other countries in the region, ranking 13th in the Arab world and 141st globally, according to research conducted by Sigi.
“This is not something that one election can solve,” said Asma Khader, prescribing a “long process of activism” and greater “involvement of women in public and political life.”
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2016/sep/23/jordan-election-women-gain-ground-gender-gap
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2016/sep/23/jordan-election-women-gain-ground-gender-gap
3 March 2017 11:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Minimum quotas exist in the House of Representatives for women (15 seats, though they won 20 seats in the 2016 election), Christians (9 seats) and Circassians and Chechens (3 seats). Three constituencies are allocated for the Bedouins of the northern, central and southern Badias.
Jordan has around 50 political parties representing nationalist, Islamist, leftist and liberal ideologies.[99] Political parties contested a fifth of the seats in the 2016 elections, the remainder belonging to independent politicians. The government can be dismissed by a two-thirds vote of "no confidence" by the House of Representatives. Political parties come under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Interior, and may not be established on the basis of religion.
https://freedomhouse.org/report/countries-crossroads/2012/jordan#_edn15
Jordan has around 50 political parties representing nationalist, Islamist, leftist and liberal ideologies.[99] Political parties contested a fifth of the seats in the 2016 elections, the remainder belonging to independent politicians. The government can be dismissed by a two-thirds vote of "no confidence" by the House of Representatives. Political parties come under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Interior, and may not be established on the basis of religion.
https://freedomhouse.org/report/countries-crossroads/2012/jordan#_edn15
https://freedomhouse.org/report/countries-crossroads/2012/jordan#_edn15
3 March 2017 11:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The Great Arab Revolt successfully gained control of most of territories of the Hejaz and the Levant, including the region east of the Jordan River. However, it failed to gain international recognition as an independent state, due mainly to the secret Sykes–Picot Agreement of 1916 and the Balfour Declaration of 1917. This was seen by the Hashemites and the Arabs as a betrayal of their previous agreements with the British, including the McMahon–Hussein Correspondence of 1915, in which the British stated their willingness to recognize the independence of a unified Arab state stretching from Aleppo to Aden under the rule of the Hashemites. The region was divided and Abdullah I, the second son of Sharif Hussein arrived from Hejaz by train in Ma'an in southern Jordan, where he was greeted by Transjordanian leaders. ] Abdullah established the Emirate of Transjordan in 1921, which then became a British protectorate
http://www.historynet.com/creating-chaos-lawrence-of-arabia-and-the-1916-arab-revolt.htm
http://www.historynet.com/creating-chaos-lawrence-of-arabia-and-the-1916-arab-revolt.htm
http://www.historynet.com/creating-chaos-lawrence-of-arabia-and-the-1916-arab-revolt.htm
3 March 2017 11:13
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Killo's post.
See hää film
3 March 2017 09:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Полиция отменила концерт панков Hot Kommunist из-за названия тура «Русофобия»
Полиция без объяснения причин отменила концерт эстонско-финской панк-группы Hot Kommunist в Москве. Об этом Открытой России сообщил организатор концерта Денис Алексеев.
За час до концерта организаторам позвонили из местного отделения полиции и сообщили, что концерт придется отменить. На вопросы организаторов о причинах отмены мероприятия участковый сбивчиво ответил, что это указание «сверху» — то ли от ФСБ, то ли от Центра «Э», — сам сотрудник полиции не смог ответить на вопрос более конкретно.
Организаторами концерта было принято решение не проводить концерт, чтобы не подвергать опасности зрителей и музыкантов выступающих групп.
Сам организатор шоу не до конца понимает, что могло послужить причиной для недовольства правоохранителей.
«Возможно, причиной отмены концерта может быть название нашего тура. Он называется Russophobia. Но у этого слова есть как минимум три смысла. Во-первых, так называют всех несогласных с официальной политикой государства. Во-вторых, я часто бываю в других странах, и, когда возвращаюсь, вижу лица людей, испуганных и замученных людей. А в-третьих, мы не можем отрицать, что в зарубежных странах нас, русских, боятся. Отсюда и название тура», — рассказал Алексеев.
Также он выразил свое недоумение на тему нежелательности выступлений подобных групп.
«Люди ездят и играют музыку, они не получают денег за свои выступления, это полный DIY (сделай сам)», — добавил организатор.
Алексеев сообщил, что несмотря на отмену концерта, он и дальше будет заниматься организацией мероприятий с участием иностранных и отечественных групп, в том числе и в Москве.
В лайн-апе концерта в клубе ДИЧ значились такие андеграундные группы, как Kain XVIII (Минск), Jars, Phenolhouse и Riff Action Family.
Следующий концерт Hot Kommunist пройдет 23 декабря в Санкт-Петербурге.
https://openrussia.org/mobile/notes/704309/
Полиция без объяснения причин отменила концерт эстонско-финской панк-группы Hot Kommunist в Москве. Об этом Открытой России сообщил организатор концерта Денис Алексеев.
За час до концерта организаторам позвонили из местного отделения полиции и сообщили, что концерт придется отменить. На вопросы организаторов о причинах отмены мероприятия участковый сбивчиво ответил, что это указание «сверху» — то ли от ФСБ, то ли от Центра «Э», — сам сотрудник полиции не смог ответить на вопрос более конкретно.
Организаторами концерта было принято решение не проводить концерт, чтобы не подвергать опасности зрителей и музыкантов выступающих групп.
Сам организатор шоу не до конца понимает, что могло послужить причиной для недовольства правоохранителей.
«Возможно, причиной отмены концерта может быть название нашего тура. Он называется Russophobia. Но у этого слова есть как минимум три смысла. Во-первых, так называют всех несогласных с официальной политикой государства. Во-вторых, я часто бываю в других странах, и, когда возвращаюсь, вижу лица людей, испуганных и замученных людей. А в-третьих, мы не можем отрицать, что в зарубежных странах нас, русских, боятся. Отсюда и название тура», — рассказал Алексеев.
Также он выразил свое недоумение на тему нежелательности выступлений подобных групп.
«Люди ездят и играют музыку, они не получают денег за свои выступления, это полный DIY (сделай сам)», — добавил организатор.
Алексеев сообщил, что несмотря на отмену концерта, он и дальше будет заниматься организацией мероприятий с участием иностранных и отечественных групп, в том числе и в Москве.
В лайн-апе концерта в клубе ДИЧ значились такие андеграундные группы, как Kain XVIII (Минск), Jars, Phenolhouse и Riff Action Family.
Следующий концерт Hot Kommunist пройдет 23 декабря в Санкт-Петербурге.
https://openrussia.org/mobile/notes/704309/
https://openrussia.org/mobile/notes/704309/
3 March 2017 09:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Estoned :p
3 March 2017 09:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" mis on halb ja mis on hea "
Ava oma hing ja keha
Sina midagi ei pea
Siis sa oskad vahet teha
Mis on halb ja mis on hea
Avaneb anarhia
Keelatud anarhia
Üle maa üle kodumaa
Üle kogu Maa
See on sinu õigusteadus
Mis on sinu vere sees
Sina oled ainus seadus
Iseenda peremees
Elagu anarhia
Ääretu anarhia
Põhjatu anarhia
Otsatu anarhia
Need kes heidavad sind alla
Keelavad ja käsivad
Lõpuks oma käsud alla
Neelavad ja väsivad
Ääretu anarhia
Üle maa üle maailma
Üle iseenda sa
Küünid vaatama
(Puhkeb koit ja kustub eha
Sina midagi ei pea
Sina sina oskad vahet teha
Mis on halb ja mis on hea)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2irjVGfF6BM
Ava oma hing ja keha
Sina midagi ei pea
Siis sa oskad vahet teha
Mis on halb ja mis on hea
Avaneb anarhia
Keelatud anarhia
Üle maa üle kodumaa
Üle kogu Maa
See on sinu õigusteadus
Mis on sinu vere sees
Sina oled ainus seadus
Iseenda peremees
Elagu anarhia
Ääretu anarhia
Põhjatu anarhia
Otsatu anarhia
Need kes heidavad sind alla
Keelavad ja käsivad
Lõpuks oma käsud alla
Neelavad ja väsivad
Ääretu anarhia
Üle maa üle maailma
Üle iseenda sa
Küünid vaatama
(Puhkeb koit ja kustub eha
Sina midagi ei pea
Sina sina oskad vahet teha
Mis on halb ja mis on hea)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2irjVGfF6BM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2irjVGfF6BM
3 March 2017 09:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
täitsa tavalised seltsimehed ju, mis venemaa pabistas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn7m0lcj7zc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn7m0lcj7zc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn7m0lcj7zc
3 March 2017 09:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nüüd Alo teab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjqSDE7IN7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjqSDE7IN7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjqSDE7IN7c
3 March 2017 09:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Võrumaal käsitööõlut valmistav Pühajõe pruulikoda tõi turule õllepudelisse villitud joogivee „Jevgeni”.
Arvestades Eesti seadusandlikus ja majanduskeskkonnas toimuvaid kiireid muudatusi otsustas ettevõtte juhtkond, et toimuvale reageerimiseks on vaja kasutada knihvi-põhist mõtlemist ja hakata lisaks traditsioonilisele tootevalikule pakkuma uuenduslikke tooteid, teatas ettevõte.
„Maakeeli öeldes, ei maksa kõiki mune ühes korvis hoida,” ütles Pühajõe pruulikoja omanik Rain Epler. Nii sündiski „Jevgeni” – joogivesi õllepudelis.
Ettevõtja hinnangul muudavad õlletootjate jaoks olud raskemaks mitte ainult kiiresti kerkiv aktsiis ja planeeritav reklaamikeeld, vaid ka asjaolu, et loomu poolest kuulekad eestlased hakkavad vähem õlut jooma, kuna valitsus on öelnud, et selline käitumine on õige ja vajalik.
https://lounaeestlane.ee/kae-nalja-vorumaa-pruulikoda-toi-turule-joogivee-jevgeni/
Arvestades Eesti seadusandlikus ja majanduskeskkonnas toimuvaid kiireid muudatusi otsustas ettevõtte juhtkond, et toimuvale reageerimiseks on vaja kasutada knihvi-põhist mõtlemist ja hakata lisaks traditsioonilisele tootevalikule pakkuma uuenduslikke tooteid, teatas ettevõte.
„Maakeeli öeldes, ei maksa kõiki mune ühes korvis hoida,” ütles Pühajõe pruulikoja omanik Rain Epler. Nii sündiski „Jevgeni” – joogivesi õllepudelis.
Ettevõtja hinnangul muudavad õlletootjate jaoks olud raskemaks mitte ainult kiiresti kerkiv aktsiis ja planeeritav reklaamikeeld, vaid ka asjaolu, et loomu poolest kuulekad eestlased hakkavad vähem õlut jooma, kuna valitsus on öelnud, et selline käitumine on õige ja vajalik.
https://lounaeestlane.ee/kae-nalja-vorumaa-pruulikoda-toi-turule-joogivee-jevgeni/
https://lounaeestlane.ee/kae-nalja-vorumaa-pruulikoda-toi-turule-joogivee-jevgeni/
3 March 2017 09:24
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's post.
sellise asja peale ainult Ugri paremik tuleb; Eesti-Soome, punkbänd, nimega Hot Kommunist, Venemaale esinema, nimega Russofobia.
lisada siia midagi raske,
kui siis võtta sponsoriks Võru pruulikoja Jevgeeni vesi
https://lounaeestlane.ee/kae-nalja-vorumaa-pruulikoda-toi-turule-joogivee-jevgeni/
Kuid jah, see suht max out
lisada siia midagi raske,
kui siis võtta sponsoriks Võru pruulikoja Jevgeeni vesi
https://lounaeestlane.ee/kae-nalja-vorumaa-pruulikoda-toi-turule-joogivee-jevgeni/
Kuid jah, see suht max out
https://lounaeestlane.ee/kae-nalja-vorumaa-pruulikoda-toi-turule-joogivee-jevgeni/
3 March 2017 09:17
Margus Meigo replied to Ailar Väärtmaa's comment.
Mine tea, ma kuulnud, et ta mitmest maailmast korraga tuleb aga muidu päris korras veel
3 March 2017 09:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Pro-Suicide and Anorexia Forums. Pro-Suicide and Anorexia forums are places where people who suffer from depression or eating disorders go to socialize with like minded individuals. It is sort of like going to an Alcoholic Anonymous meeting where people are encouraged to imbibe bottles of Jack Daniels. On these forums, users exchange ideas and methods for committing suicide, and/or starving oneself. On pro-anorexia forums people are extolled for going days without eating; while on suicide forums, people are told to embrace their suicidal thoughts, and can also find people with whom to participate in suicide pacts with.
These websites are places where people can speak openly and freely about their perverse thoughts and/or actions, and just having the opportunity to speak about their afflictions allows them to exercise their demons, and completely purge their abject predilections.
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The Search Engine. The Onion Network’s search engine, Grams, maybe visually similar to the world’s most popular search engine, but it accesses parts of the web Google wouldn’t dare to touch. Grams directs users to websites where the sale and purchase of drugs are permitted, and pornography of all forms is widely distributed. The search results page epitomizes the phrase “morally perplexing”: just one look at the trending topics and you will find links to everything from organically grown cocaine, to rape videos.
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Lots and Lots of Drugs. The Darknet is a great place to procure top grade narcotics. Web sites like Silk Road offer drugs of all varieties: weed, cocaine, organically grown cocaine, meth, ecstasy, LSD, and just about any drug your mind can conjure up. Silk Road and websites of a similar ilk are set up just like your average e-commerce website. There are categories, links to other products, customer reviews, and seller ratings. Yup, you read that correctly. Just like Amazon, eBay, and every other online retailer, there are customer reviews and seller ratings.
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A Guy Who Will Steal Anything. For the right price, you can find people who will steal anything you request. Emphasis on anything. Cars, shoes, cameras, mints, belt buckles and any other arbitrary object you can think of is up for grabs. If you ask for it, they will steal it. Some people even go to great lengths to prove they actually stole the item by streaming videos of themselves breaking into homes and swiping the requested merchandise.
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Stolen Uber Accounts. For the price of one dollar, you can purchase an Uber account and be chauffeured to your destination on someone else’s dime. In addition to Uber accounts, you can also find stolen Netflix accounts, passport photos, and credit card numbers.
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Hackers for Hire. Need access to classified information? Know someone who’s life you would like to ruin? Then hire a hacker on the Darknet. For the right price, you can have a professional bypass computer security and orchestrate all kinds of bedlam. Hacking is a great way to destroy your enemies; just look at the carnage which ensued during the aftermath of the Ashley Madison scandal.
If you’re looking to impose more damage than a hacked computer can inflict, don’t fret because you can also hire an assassin. For the right price you can get rid of all your enemies… permanently!
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Holiday Specials on Guns, Drugs, And Other Things. As I alluded to earlier, the eCommerce websites on the Darknet are very similar to the ones you find on the regular internet, except on Darknet websites you can buy drugs, guns, and uranium. Paraphernalia aside, Darknet websites offers some great holiday discounts. You can get 50% off meth, 8 balls of cocaine for 20% off, 30mg of Adderall for only $300.00, Cuban cigars for $300.00 off, 50% discounts on stolen credit cards, and 40% off liquid mushrooms and LSD. These are great savings – you know – if you are Christmas shopping for a drug addled fraudster.
// well, at least you get LSD and Shrooms there... some sites ONLY sale morally good drugs like mushrooms etc, that are meant for soul protection, and widening the mind, understanding, time travel etc, or soul retreat,
and they in purposewill not sell cocaines, alcohol, meds etc al lthe things that make human dumber or in danger of others with no benafit to world,
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Pornography. I know what you’re thinking: you can find pornography on the regular internet. This is true; however, the type of pornography you find on the Darknet is heinous, malicious, and outright cruel. Child pornography of all forms is prevalent, rape videos are a hot commodity, and there is an audience for what is known as crush porn: videos that feature animals being brutally murdered, often in a sexual manner.
The abundance of abject pornography is one of the worst aspects of anonymous web browsing because it allows people to abuse and exploit children behind a cryptic veil that is extremely difficult to remove.
// and this is just the things we can talk about, that are public and known.... and belivable.. there is some thing so out there, that youeven can not talk about it.. and some things you can see but not understand... not just blakc magic stuff ... well, that also.. but the things u can spot and understand when youhave pre knowladge, or when you are selected to know and see... and wel.. in the end youstill need to understand whatthings can be possible to understand ... and to search.. and to be selcted to access... and .. well.. sciense fiction movies got room in there
did we mention live theaters?
And remote contro lthaters?
http://ppcorn.com/us/2015/12/22/8-outrageous-things-darknet/
These websites are places where people can speak openly and freely about their perverse thoughts and/or actions, and just having the opportunity to speak about their afflictions allows them to exercise their demons, and completely purge their abject predilections.
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The Search Engine. The Onion Network’s search engine, Grams, maybe visually similar to the world’s most popular search engine, but it accesses parts of the web Google wouldn’t dare to touch. Grams directs users to websites where the sale and purchase of drugs are permitted, and pornography of all forms is widely distributed. The search results page epitomizes the phrase “morally perplexing”: just one look at the trending topics and you will find links to everything from organically grown cocaine, to rape videos.
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Lots and Lots of Drugs. The Darknet is a great place to procure top grade narcotics. Web sites like Silk Road offer drugs of all varieties: weed, cocaine, organically grown cocaine, meth, ecstasy, LSD, and just about any drug your mind can conjure up. Silk Road and websites of a similar ilk are set up just like your average e-commerce website. There are categories, links to other products, customer reviews, and seller ratings. Yup, you read that correctly. Just like Amazon, eBay, and every other online retailer, there are customer reviews and seller ratings.
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A Guy Who Will Steal Anything. For the right price, you can find people who will steal anything you request. Emphasis on anything. Cars, shoes, cameras, mints, belt buckles and any other arbitrary object you can think of is up for grabs. If you ask for it, they will steal it. Some people even go to great lengths to prove they actually stole the item by streaming videos of themselves breaking into homes and swiping the requested merchandise.
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Stolen Uber Accounts. For the price of one dollar, you can purchase an Uber account and be chauffeured to your destination on someone else’s dime. In addition to Uber accounts, you can also find stolen Netflix accounts, passport photos, and credit card numbers.
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Hackers for Hire. Need access to classified information? Know someone who’s life you would like to ruin? Then hire a hacker on the Darknet. For the right price, you can have a professional bypass computer security and orchestrate all kinds of bedlam. Hacking is a great way to destroy your enemies; just look at the carnage which ensued during the aftermath of the Ashley Madison scandal.
If you’re looking to impose more damage than a hacked computer can inflict, don’t fret because you can also hire an assassin. For the right price you can get rid of all your enemies… permanently!
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Holiday Specials on Guns, Drugs, And Other Things. As I alluded to earlier, the eCommerce websites on the Darknet are very similar to the ones you find on the regular internet, except on Darknet websites you can buy drugs, guns, and uranium. Paraphernalia aside, Darknet websites offers some great holiday discounts. You can get 50% off meth, 8 balls of cocaine for 20% off, 30mg of Adderall for only $300.00, Cuban cigars for $300.00 off, 50% discounts on stolen credit cards, and 40% off liquid mushrooms and LSD. These are great savings – you know – if you are Christmas shopping for a drug addled fraudster.
// well, at least you get LSD and Shrooms there... some sites ONLY sale morally good drugs like mushrooms etc, that are meant for soul protection, and widening the mind, understanding, time travel etc, or soul retreat,
and they in purposewill not sell cocaines, alcohol, meds etc al lthe things that make human dumber or in danger of others with no benafit to world,
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Pornography. I know what you’re thinking: you can find pornography on the regular internet. This is true; however, the type of pornography you find on the Darknet is heinous, malicious, and outright cruel. Child pornography of all forms is prevalent, rape videos are a hot commodity, and there is an audience for what is known as crush porn: videos that feature animals being brutally murdered, often in a sexual manner.
The abundance of abject pornography is one of the worst aspects of anonymous web browsing because it allows people to abuse and exploit children behind a cryptic veil that is extremely difficult to remove.
// and this is just the things we can talk about, that are public and known.... and belivable.. there is some thing so out there, that youeven can not talk about it.. and some things you can see but not understand... not just blakc magic stuff ... well, that also.. but the things u can spot and understand when youhave pre knowladge, or when you are selected to know and see... and wel.. in the end youstill need to understand whatthings can be possible to understand ... and to search.. and to be selcted to access... and .. well.. sciense fiction movies got room in there
did we mention live theaters?
And remote contro lthaters?
http://ppcorn.com/us/2015/12/22/8-outrageous-things-darknet/
http://ppcorn.com/us/2015/12/22/8-outrageous-things-darknet/
3 March 2017 03:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
maybe crap maybe... not for long
"It went on to say the site owners had captured seven ISIS terrorists whom they would humiliate (“there will be bacon”), torture and ultimately murder live on webcam at the allotted time and date.
Here, it seemed, the ultimate urban myth, was going to become a reality: The Red Room. The modern version of the snuff movie, a Red Room is a live stream of the torture and murder of a person for the entertainment of others. Sometimes viewers may interact, typing instructions on a screen Think of the movie Hostel and add webcams.
And it would be okay to watch! It was ISIS Terrorists getting tortured and killed for our viewing pleasure! And it was all going to be free!
Going darker in the dark web
It’s a tediously common question from those who have visited the Hidden Wiki (a dark web entrypoint for dummies; nicely-laid-out links to a couple of markets, and a whole lot of scams): “How can I go deeper in the deep web? Where’s the really dark stuff? (No cheese pizza* please)”
* child pornography
It is not altogether clear what these people are hoping to find (or what they consider darker than child pornography, particularly hurtcore), but they can usually be placated by sending them along to something like The Human Experiment . Later they will swear black and blue that it’s REAL, they’ve SEEN IT WITH THEIR OWN EYES. Others will insist that there are real-life gladiator fights to the death (there has to be, right?). Or they know someone who knows someone who got one of the Human Dolls. It’s all there, if only you look DEEP enough. "
// just the fact that people searching for it..
https://allthingsvice.com/2015/08/29/waiting-in-the-red-room/
"It went on to say the site owners had captured seven ISIS terrorists whom they would humiliate (“there will be bacon”), torture and ultimately murder live on webcam at the allotted time and date.
Here, it seemed, the ultimate urban myth, was going to become a reality: The Red Room. The modern version of the snuff movie, a Red Room is a live stream of the torture and murder of a person for the entertainment of others. Sometimes viewers may interact, typing instructions on a screen Think of the movie Hostel and add webcams.
And it would be okay to watch! It was ISIS Terrorists getting tortured and killed for our viewing pleasure! And it was all going to be free!
Going darker in the dark web
It’s a tediously common question from those who have visited the Hidden Wiki (a dark web entrypoint for dummies; nicely-laid-out links to a couple of markets, and a whole lot of scams): “How can I go deeper in the deep web? Where’s the really dark stuff? (No cheese pizza* please)”
* child pornography
It is not altogether clear what these people are hoping to find (or what they consider darker than child pornography, particularly hurtcore), but they can usually be placated by sending them along to something like The Human Experiment . Later they will swear black and blue that it’s REAL, they’ve SEEN IT WITH THEIR OWN EYES. Others will insist that there are real-life gladiator fights to the death (there has to be, right?). Or they know someone who knows someone who got one of the Human Dolls. It’s all there, if only you look DEEP enough. "
// just the fact that people searching for it..
https://allthingsvice.com/2015/08/29/waiting-in-the-red-room/
https://allthingsvice.com/2015/08/29/waiting-in-the-red-room/
3 March 2017 03:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
darknetfiles.com/bridal-suicide/
http://darknetfiles.com/bridal-suicide/
3 March 2017 03:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
number of drug charges and deaths is expected to rise in 2017. According to Gerlinde Mair, Head of Drug Assistance, 27 people died in Augsburg in 2016. She said that she believes the increase in drug-related cases came from an influx of “new drugs, bath salts, and herbal mixtures.”
"Lately, she explained, officials operated with their hands tied behind their back. Drug manufacturers continually bypassed drug laws by changing the molecular structure of the drug, rendering the police useless. Such actions caused an increase in “easily produced synthetic drugs,” she said. Gerhard Zintl, head of the Augsburger Criminal Police (Kriminalpolizei) stated the police “have always followed drug developments.” He explained another reason for the major increase in 2016 was the accessibility of them. They were available at low prices online and mailed to the recipient, he added."
https://www.deepdotweb.com/2016/12/29/analogs-darknet-killing-growing-number-bavarian-citizens/
// this is.. still compared to the massive acutal problem... just in porportion small.. but is sad when person does not get whatthye want... but sometimes they want a wrong thing... as information is not out..
"Lately, she explained, officials operated with their hands tied behind their back. Drug manufacturers continually bypassed drug laws by changing the molecular structure of the drug, rendering the police useless. Such actions caused an increase in “easily produced synthetic drugs,” she said. Gerhard Zintl, head of the Augsburger Criminal Police (Kriminalpolizei) stated the police “have always followed drug developments.” He explained another reason for the major increase in 2016 was the accessibility of them. They were available at low prices online and mailed to the recipient, he added."
https://www.deepdotweb.com/2016/12/29/analogs-darknet-killing-growing-number-bavarian-citizens/
// this is.. still compared to the massive acutal problem... just in porportion small.. but is sad when person does not get whatthye want... but sometimes they want a wrong thing... as information is not out..
https://www.deepdotweb.com/2016/12/29/analogs-darknet-killing-growing-number-bavarian-citizens/
3 March 2017 03:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
darknetfiles.com/now-that-ive-killed-one-person
http://darknetfiles.com/now-that-ive-killed-one-person
3 March 2017 03:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kristoph27 commented on the inauguration thread: "This is a good site to make. Not many 'good' sites like this exists on Tor. :-)"
Others also had a positive, yet darker reaction when the site was announced.
"I hope this place takes off. I've been looking for a suicide hangout for so long. All the good places are long gone," user ichithekiller01 wrote. "I'm glad we can talk about methods here and all the other off limit Reddit stuff. Talking about that stuff feels good. Planning feels good."
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https://www.deepdotweb.com/questions/question/anyone-know-any-good-pills-for-suicide/
Others also had a positive, yet darker reaction when the site was announced.
"I hope this place takes off. I've been looking for a suicide hangout for so long. All the good places are long gone," user ichithekiller01 wrote. "I'm glad we can talk about methods here and all the other off limit Reddit stuff. Talking about that stuff feels good. Planning feels good."
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https://www.deepdotweb.com/questions/question/anyone-know-any-good-pills-for-suicide/
https://www.deepdotweb.com/questions/question/anyone-know-any-good-pills-for-suicide/
3 March 2017 03:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
There's also a new website that's on the edge between legality and illegality, between empathy and what some would see as sinfulness: a forum to discuss anything related to suicide, from suicidal thoughts and fantasies, to actual methods of killing oneself.
It's called Sanctioned Suicide, and its professed ethos is to give anyone a safe and completely anonymous haven to talk about their darkest thoughts.
"It is a place for people to find help and a place to vent," Apollo, the pseudonymous founder of the site, told Motherboard, "as well as a place to find a suitable way of choosing to end their own lives, if that is their desire."
Suicide is a taboo in our society, but it's also a tragic reality. In 2013, there were more than 41,000 reported deaths by suicide in the United States, making it the 10th leading cause of death in the country
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/the-deep-web-suicide-site
In its rules, SuicideForum.com, a site with 1.3 million posts and more than 31,000 members, clearly states in bold and colorful oversized letters the basic rule of the forum: Do no harm, promote no harm.
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"I'm looking for suicide related sites, how to, not prevention," a Redditor who has deleted his or her account wrote.
Apollo, who heads a group who develops deep web sites called Darknet Solutions, thought there was a real need for it since clearnet suicide sites "can be shut down if they offer assistance methods" and their users are not truly anonymous since their usernames are tied to identifying information such as the email addresses they used to sign up for the forum, or worse, their real IP addresses.
While Sanctioned Suicide "is just a pet project of mine," Apollo said, there's no other personal reason.
"I am not suicidal or depressed [...] I've never really had any type of actions like that other than intrusive thoughts," Apollo told Motherboard, explaining that he meant "an unwelcome involuntary thought, image, or unpleasant idea."
It's called Sanctioned Suicide, and its professed ethos is to give anyone a safe and completely anonymous haven to talk about their darkest thoughts.
"It is a place for people to find help and a place to vent," Apollo, the pseudonymous founder of the site, told Motherboard, "as well as a place to find a suitable way of choosing to end their own lives, if that is their desire."
Suicide is a taboo in our society, but it's also a tragic reality. In 2013, there were more than 41,000 reported deaths by suicide in the United States, making it the 10th leading cause of death in the country
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/the-deep-web-suicide-site
In its rules, SuicideForum.com, a site with 1.3 million posts and more than 31,000 members, clearly states in bold and colorful oversized letters the basic rule of the forum: Do no harm, promote no harm.
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"I'm looking for suicide related sites, how to, not prevention," a Redditor who has deleted his or her account wrote.
Apollo, who heads a group who develops deep web sites called Darknet Solutions, thought there was a real need for it since clearnet suicide sites "can be shut down if they offer assistance methods" and their users are not truly anonymous since their usernames are tied to identifying information such as the email addresses they used to sign up for the forum, or worse, their real IP addresses.
While Sanctioned Suicide "is just a pet project of mine," Apollo said, there's no other personal reason.
"I am not suicidal or depressed [...] I've never really had any type of actions like that other than intrusive thoughts," Apollo told Motherboard, explaining that he meant "an unwelcome involuntary thought, image, or unpleasant idea."
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/the-deep-web-suicide-site
3 March 2017 03:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiO9Ph01YlM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiO9Ph01YlM
3 March 2017 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid sellest jah.. räägitud ammu ka naljas juba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvFyZoTDZ2U&t=304s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvFyZoTDZ2U&t=304s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvFyZoTDZ2U&t=304s
3 March 2017 03:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/vikerhommik/rubriigid/vikerhommikintervjuud/loigud/69fa5c97-3438-47a4-8e62-2fa71822ceb8/intervjuud-enesetapumang-sinivaal-on-joudnud-eestisse
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/vikerhommik/rubriigid/vikerhommikintervjuud/loigud/69fa5c97-3438-47a4-8e62-2fa71822ceb8/intervjuud-enesetapumang-sinivaal-on-joudnud-eestisse
3 March 2017 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lapsi suitsiidile õhutavat mängu mänginud vene tüdruk rääkis Vikerraadiole antud intervjuus, et 50 päeva jooksul antakse mängijale erinevaid ülesandeid. Viimasel päeval tuleb sooritada enesetapp. Kui laps enesetappu ei tee, siis hakatakse teda ähvardama lubadustega tema ja ta perekond ära tappa.
Tallinnas kaheksandas klassis õppiv neiu rääkis Vikerraadiole, et mängul on palju erinevaid nimesid: sinivaal, vaikne maja, F5, F54 ja nii edasi. Tüdruk kuulist sellest mängust oma sõbranna käest.
Kui alguses neiu arvas, et Venemaalt alguse saanud mängu näol on tegu pigem naljaga, siis paari nädala möödudes ta mõistis, et nii see ei ole. Lapsed mängivad, lõiguvad end ja mõned tõesti teevadki enesetapu.
Tüdruk ise liitus sotsiaalmeediavõrgustikust VKontakte leitud «Sinivaala» grupiga. Grupi leidmine oli väga lihtne – pead vaid otsingusse kirjutama ükskõik, millise versiooni mängu nimest. Grupp ise on kinnine, seega liitumiseks tuleb kõigepealt saata administraatorile kiri.
«Mina kirjutasin, et mul on probleem ja tahaks mängida,» ütles neiu. Ta mõtles välja mure, et tal suri koer ära ning seetõttu tahaks ta teha enesetapu, aga mitte lihtsalt niisama, vaid läbi mängu.
Esimene ülesanne anti väga kiiresti. Tüdruk pidi torkama sõrme naelaga nii, et veri hakkaks voolama ja seda pildistama. Ent päriselt ta seda ei teinud, vaid otsis vastava pildi internetist. Ülesande andis talle poiss, kes väitis end olevat administraator. Veel tuli ülesannetena lõigata jala või käe peale vaalakuju või lõigata endale huulde. Sellest kõigest pidi saatma ka foto – või videotõestuse. Tüdruk saatis pilte ja videosid küll, ent leidis need internetist. Ühtegi ülesannet ta ise reaalselt ei täitnud.
Ohtliku mängu mänginud tüdruk märkis, et kui esimese ülesannete jagamise ajal mingeid ähvardusi ei tule, siis viimase päevani jõudes, mille ülesanne on sooritada enesetapp, läheb asi juba kurjemaks.
«Kui sa mängu viiekümnendal päeval enesetappu ei tee, siis hakkavad nad juba päriselt hirmutama. Nad ütlevad, et teavad kus elavad, nad ise tapavad su ära ja kogu su pere. Ma arvan, et mõned sellepärast teevadki enesetapu, et nad kardavad,» tõdes tüdruk.
Tüdruk jõudis ära teha 35 ülesannet ja siis tekkis ka tal endal juba hirm. Just seetõttu, et äkki hakatakse ka teda ähvardama. «Sõbranna, kes jõudis mängu lõpuni, ei teinud enesetappu. Ta lihtsalt lõpetas mängu,» ütles tüdruk. Ent üks tema eestlasest sõbranna mängis mängu ja lõikus end.
Põhja prefektuuri raskete kuritegude talituse juht Roger Kumm:
Kumm tõdes «Vikerhommikus», et informatsioon sellest mängust on jõudnud ka politseini. «Otsest mänguga seotud viidet ei ole, aga see tuleneb ilmselt ka sellest, et lapsed ei räägi oma vanematele, et näiteks mõned vigastused on mängu tõttu tekkinud,» ütles Kumm.
«Kuna ma olen ise lapsevanem, siis loomulikult ma suhtlen nendega sel teemal. Üks minu lastest ongi selles vanuses, et kasutab interneti aktiivselt. Lapsevanem tihti unustab, et kui kodune arvuti on mingit pidi kontrolli all, siis mobiiltelefonid enam nii palju ei ole,» nentis Kumm.
Ta lisas, et lapsevanem peaks rahulikumalt oma lapse käest uurima, milliseid mänge sõbrad mängivad ning millised mängud levivad koolis. «Mitmeid aastaid tagasi levis mäng, kus koolis lämmatati teineteist mingi joobetunde tekitamiseks,» ütles ta.
http://www.postimees.ee/4032547/internetis-levivat-enesetapumaengu-maenginud-tuedruk-kui-sa-end-aera-ei-tapa-siis-aehvardavad-nad-tappa-sinu-ja-su-pere
Tallinnas kaheksandas klassis õppiv neiu rääkis Vikerraadiole, et mängul on palju erinevaid nimesid: sinivaal, vaikne maja, F5, F54 ja nii edasi. Tüdruk kuulist sellest mängust oma sõbranna käest.
Kui alguses neiu arvas, et Venemaalt alguse saanud mängu näol on tegu pigem naljaga, siis paari nädala möödudes ta mõistis, et nii see ei ole. Lapsed mängivad, lõiguvad end ja mõned tõesti teevadki enesetapu.
Tüdruk ise liitus sotsiaalmeediavõrgustikust VKontakte leitud «Sinivaala» grupiga. Grupi leidmine oli väga lihtne – pead vaid otsingusse kirjutama ükskõik, millise versiooni mängu nimest. Grupp ise on kinnine, seega liitumiseks tuleb kõigepealt saata administraatorile kiri.
«Mina kirjutasin, et mul on probleem ja tahaks mängida,» ütles neiu. Ta mõtles välja mure, et tal suri koer ära ning seetõttu tahaks ta teha enesetapu, aga mitte lihtsalt niisama, vaid läbi mängu.
Esimene ülesanne anti väga kiiresti. Tüdruk pidi torkama sõrme naelaga nii, et veri hakkaks voolama ja seda pildistama. Ent päriselt ta seda ei teinud, vaid otsis vastava pildi internetist. Ülesande andis talle poiss, kes väitis end olevat administraator. Veel tuli ülesannetena lõigata jala või käe peale vaalakuju või lõigata endale huulde. Sellest kõigest pidi saatma ka foto – või videotõestuse. Tüdruk saatis pilte ja videosid küll, ent leidis need internetist. Ühtegi ülesannet ta ise reaalselt ei täitnud.
Ohtliku mängu mänginud tüdruk märkis, et kui esimese ülesannete jagamise ajal mingeid ähvardusi ei tule, siis viimase päevani jõudes, mille ülesanne on sooritada enesetapp, läheb asi juba kurjemaks.
«Kui sa mängu viiekümnendal päeval enesetappu ei tee, siis hakkavad nad juba päriselt hirmutama. Nad ütlevad, et teavad kus elavad, nad ise tapavad su ära ja kogu su pere. Ma arvan, et mõned sellepärast teevadki enesetapu, et nad kardavad,» tõdes tüdruk.
Tüdruk jõudis ära teha 35 ülesannet ja siis tekkis ka tal endal juba hirm. Just seetõttu, et äkki hakatakse ka teda ähvardama. «Sõbranna, kes jõudis mängu lõpuni, ei teinud enesetappu. Ta lihtsalt lõpetas mängu,» ütles tüdruk. Ent üks tema eestlasest sõbranna mängis mängu ja lõikus end.
Põhja prefektuuri raskete kuritegude talituse juht Roger Kumm:
Kumm tõdes «Vikerhommikus», et informatsioon sellest mängust on jõudnud ka politseini. «Otsest mänguga seotud viidet ei ole, aga see tuleneb ilmselt ka sellest, et lapsed ei räägi oma vanematele, et näiteks mõned vigastused on mängu tõttu tekkinud,» ütles Kumm.
«Kuna ma olen ise lapsevanem, siis loomulikult ma suhtlen nendega sel teemal. Üks minu lastest ongi selles vanuses, et kasutab interneti aktiivselt. Lapsevanem tihti unustab, et kui kodune arvuti on mingit pidi kontrolli all, siis mobiiltelefonid enam nii palju ei ole,» nentis Kumm.
Ta lisas, et lapsevanem peaks rahulikumalt oma lapse käest uurima, milliseid mänge sõbrad mängivad ning millised mängud levivad koolis. «Mitmeid aastaid tagasi levis mäng, kus koolis lämmatati teineteist mingi joobetunde tekitamiseks,» ütles ta.
http://www.postimees.ee/4032547/internetis-levivat-enesetapumaengu-maenginud-tuedruk-kui-sa-end-aera-ei-tapa-siis-aehvardavad-nad-tappa-sinu-ja-su-pere
http://www.postimees.ee/4032547/internetis-levivat-enesetapumaengu-maenginud-tuedruk-kui-sa-end-aera-ei-tapa-siis-aehvardavad-nad-tappa-sinu-ja-su-pere
3 March 2017 03:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 March 2017 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 March 2017 02:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 March 2017 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and yes.. the web is stil lthe thing in state.. that you can not re-enter to everything you just had in front of you.. kind of world still where what u see and have open, will be lost when you not finish up this time.. when it closes.. but i hope the "history events" in fb .. i think was findable from somewhere .... rmeber from beginning of times.. there was place for it to re-see the past posts (as god for sake, to make functional data search on your own profile, .... this feature still.. where is it)
3 March 2017 02:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
when i mean "people" then i will not patrionize.. ust say, among humans, this thing is allowed to happenand happens, and appers to be happening and seems to be happened and perhaps will happen even in comingtimes, but something.. that we should takein to account to.
3 March 2017 02:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See who talks here:
"usa is country of immigrants" (sameguy who in last video, from kiss)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ooWBA2YuBk
piisses when wideos do not enable..thisis fox video. what i a world is reason for that.
"usa is country of immigrants" (sameguy who in last video, from kiss)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ooWBA2YuBk
piisses when wideos do not enable..thisis fox video. what i a world is reason for that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ooWBA2YuBk
3 March 2017 02:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
well, not the kind still...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig7gTvYETZc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig7gTvYETZc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig7gTvYETZc
3 March 2017 02:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
How the same thing, does not work..
sometimes
sometimes
3 March 2017 02:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" u need warrant unless i wake up in russia this morning" :p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5K1fm56gI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5K1fm56gI8
3 March 2017 02:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
"we got it all on tape" yo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LixsNtGM8tc
some videos u have to work on hard to get them enambled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LixsNtGM8tc
some videos u have to work on hard to get them enambled
3 March 2017 02:19
Margus Meigo replied to Alek Sander's comment.
tegelikult te 95% ulatuses või muidu täpselt ühte ja sama asja räägite kadriga ju, et pidage ikka meeles üksmeele leidmise suunda mitte pingutada, et leida kas ikka on kuskil mingi nurga alt erimeelsus.
Erimeelsust tegelikult vist ei olegi, Sa lihtsalt hästi tundeline terminite osas ja ülemuretsed, et ega Andersen sõnade tähendusi võõrvõimu mõjusfääris elades ära unustanud pole (pool naljaga) ja väärtusi pehemendama hakanud. Ta selliste juurtega perest, kes ikka kõik suht kahejalaga tugevalt maas on nende asjade osas, ei ole ekstreemid kuid kindlasti mitte ka pehmod ja ammugi mitte "punaste" poolsed.
Nagu ta ütles, on ta rahvusriikide pooldaja, sellega ju kõik äraöeldud.
Kuid muidugi kiitma peab, et kindluse mõttes, igaks-juhuks need teemad teravalt läbi võetud, Carlin me kõigi lemmik ja Eestlus me hingesoojus, ja eks need muud kuninglikud maad vast tea veelgi sügavamalt mis neil kaotada, kaotatud ja ohustatud on.
Erimeelsust tegelikult vist ei olegi, Sa lihtsalt hästi tundeline terminite osas ja ülemuretsed, et ega Andersen sõnade tähendusi võõrvõimu mõjusfääris elades ära unustanud pole (pool naljaga) ja väärtusi pehemendama hakanud. Ta selliste juurtega perest, kes ikka kõik suht kahejalaga tugevalt maas on nende asjade osas, ei ole ekstreemid kuid kindlasti mitte ka pehmod ja ammugi mitte "punaste" poolsed.
Nagu ta ütles, on ta rahvusriikide pooldaja, sellega ju kõik äraöeldud.
Kuid muidugi kiitma peab, et kindluse mõttes, igaks-juhuks need teemad teravalt läbi võetud, Carlin me kõigi lemmik ja Eestlus me hingesoojus, ja eks need muud kuninglikud maad vast tea veelgi sügavamalt mis neil kaotada, kaotatud ja ohustatud on.
2 March 2017 23:53
Margus Meigo replied to Alek Sander's comment.
kudas sellel veneagendil ntex seda teha lubati: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFCOy9KXX4I
suht lame.. aga plaksutati opakana kaasa,
Unustati ära vist, et see oli mees kes kunagi kaposse helistas ja lubas kuvaldaga lihula sambad puruks peksta (kui venelane) tekitades meelega vene-eesti konflikti kui riik need sambad ära ei vii
suht lame.. aga plaksutati opakana kaasa,
Unustati ära vist, et see oli mees kes kunagi kaposse helistas ja lubas kuvaldaga lihula sambad puruks peksta (kui venelane) tekitades meelega vene-eesti konflikti kui riik need sambad ära ei vii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFCOy9KXX4I
2 March 2017 23:44
Margus Meigo replied to Alek Sander's comment.
ei nu need jõmmid ise ennast nimetavad rahvuslasteks küll kes oma (irooniliselt kommunistide kootud) juutide jura ja kõikide võõraste vastast viha, nii igaks juhuks, üleolevalt üksteist ületrumpavalt kaasas kannavad.
Sedasorti inimesed, et kes kui üksikut hiinlast näevad, siis selleasemel, et esimene mõte peas oleks "lahe, temalt saaks õppida midagi, huvitav kes ta on" on neil pundis eriti, pealiskaudne lame mahategemine.
Ja riigile häbiks kannavad peale tikitud sinimustvaleid lipikuid oma riietel ..
peaks olema mingi teine karvaste militant org kes selliste lipikute kandjad väga tõsiselt läbi võtavad, et kas nad ikka väärt ja lubatud kandma on neid lipuvärve, kas neis on piisavalt arusaama, austust, armastust, suuremeelsust ja tarkust mis neid värve tähistab.
Või siis mingi riiklik, task force selline, kes need noored kiilakad läbivõtab.
Et kui keegi suits või õllepudel käes "Eeesti" "eesti" hüab, siis sellistel just Selle alusel saaks kratist kinni võtta, neile nende oma meditsiini pakkuda ja väga tõsiselt läbi sõnelda, nagu nad surmapattu teeks või punaste propakanda materiali.
ega minu siingi vanas videos, ei peaks me kõigiga rahul olema, mäletan, et juba siis arutlesin sääl ise ühe inimesena kes seda kogumemist planeerida aitas, et "kui need juudid nii targad on, et kõike juhivad, siis ehk nagu nii ongi hea..ega me taha, et arulagedad ju juhiks..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWHhk9nansE
Sedasorti inimesed, et kes kui üksikut hiinlast näevad, siis selleasemel, et esimene mõte peas oleks "lahe, temalt saaks õppida midagi, huvitav kes ta on" on neil pundis eriti, pealiskaudne lame mahategemine.
Ja riigile häbiks kannavad peale tikitud sinimustvaleid lipikuid oma riietel ..
peaks olema mingi teine karvaste militant org kes selliste lipikute kandjad väga tõsiselt läbi võtavad, et kas nad ikka väärt ja lubatud kandma on neid lipuvärve, kas neis on piisavalt arusaama, austust, armastust, suuremeelsust ja tarkust mis neid värve tähistab.
Või siis mingi riiklik, task force selline, kes need noored kiilakad läbivõtab.
Et kui keegi suits või õllepudel käes "Eeesti" "eesti" hüab, siis sellistel just Selle alusel saaks kratist kinni võtta, neile nende oma meditsiini pakkuda ja väga tõsiselt läbi sõnelda, nagu nad surmapattu teeks või punaste propakanda materiali.
ega minu siingi vanas videos, ei peaks me kõigiga rahul olema, mäletan, et juba siis arutlesin sääl ise ühe inimesena kes seda kogumemist planeerida aitas, et "kui need juudid nii targad on, et kõike juhivad, siis ehk nagu nii ongi hea..ega me taha, et arulagedad ju juhiks..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWHhk9nansE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWHhk9nansE
2 March 2017 23:40
Margus Meigo replied to Alek Sander's comment.
Hitler ja saksalambakoeraomanik :D
...kuid kommunistid Wagneri kuulajad igaks-juhuks listi võtaks küll.. kui aeg käes
...kuid kommunistid Wagneri kuulajad igaks-juhuks listi võtaks küll.. kui aeg käes
2 March 2017 23:28
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Andersen's post.
kuigi saan aru küll selles osas, mis Karile meeldis, et mis nurga alt, ses osas tüübil kogu oma heirivate elementide juures õigus, et need tänapäeva nationalistid, vehivad ringi slooganite ja asjadega, millesse nad ise õigesti panustanud pole ega ei ole valmis ka nende värtuste eest seisma kui vaja, õigesti.
Kuid vehkimiseks, mida keegi mitu generatsiooni varem tegi, on ikka tüüpiline.
kuid jah.. millega ta puuse pani, on heritage mahategemisega, ilmselgelt. Kuid andestatav, sest kui oled maalt jakultuurist millel ei ole heritage, pärandit, kultuuripärandit, siis ei saagi sellest aru saada ja ei ole ka midagi vajalikku mida kaasas kanda. Mis USA kultuuri iidne pärand on mida ta kaasaskandma peaks ?
Kuid vehkimiseks, mida keegi mitu generatsiooni varem tegi, on ikka tüüpiline.
kuid jah.. millega ta puuse pani, on heritage mahategemisega, ilmselgelt. Kuid andestatav, sest kui oled maalt jakultuurist millel ei ole heritage, pärandit, kultuuripärandit, siis ei saagi sellest aru saada ja ei ole ka midagi vajalikku mida kaasas kanda. Mis USA kultuuri iidne pärand on mida ta kaasaskandma peaks ?
2 March 2017 13:18
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Andersen's post.
nu jah ja see tüüp niipalju kui ma kuulnud haigla töötajate kaudu, peksis oma naise nii vaeseomaks ükskord et..
2 March 2017 05:12
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
wonder when coming to US if enterpionersip or crowdfunding is allowed.
But yea, most likelly i cicken out anyway.
As seems kind of messed up to come to another country with no direct sertain plan and finance, before yes.. but had so bad experience in UK and by miracle managed to escape from there, took over a year
need someone local for me to bootme up, it is likelly they newer come but as much i try to psuh my self up to motivate to come over.. it seems idea that will just add to a trouble..
for a moment seemed like an idea again..but to come to usa looks strange.. not that there would be any kind of outlook in other places, more likelly even in usa would have more then other places, but just ...just...just is it right for me and you.
What will we do...
will you eat me alive or will my soul go...
my paranoia says something is not right
But yea, most likelly i cicken out anyway.
As seems kind of messed up to come to another country with no direct sertain plan and finance, before yes.. but had so bad experience in UK and by miracle managed to escape from there, took over a year
need someone local for me to bootme up, it is likelly they newer come but as much i try to psuh my self up to motivate to come over.. it seems idea that will just add to a trouble..
for a moment seemed like an idea again..but to come to usa looks strange.. not that there would be any kind of outlook in other places, more likelly even in usa would have more then other places, but just ...just...just is it right for me and you.
What will we do...
will you eat me alive or will my soul go...
my paranoia says something is not right
2 March 2017 03:51
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
you really serious, again
But looked Ohio..cincinnati 1500 .. indiana also same... West Wirginia no flight.. Detroit 800 seems most reasonable.
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no bug problem, they waste energy, we need it :p
// hot songs started to play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c1m2BAg2Sc
But looked Ohio..cincinnati 1500 .. indiana also same... West Wirginia no flight.. Detroit 800 seems most reasonable.
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no bug problem, they waste energy, we need it :p
// hot songs started to play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c1m2BAg2Sc
2 March 2017 02:59
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
but it did not bring me down,
2 March 2017 02:57
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
i not kidding, gov take literally my bed also away
2 March 2017 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
luckilly air is cheap and good quality in hre still
2 March 2017 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
like me
2 March 2017 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
but americas also got music so ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McdTUlVWAE0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McdTUlVWAE0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McdTUlVWAE0
2 March 2017 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
i just would miss out lissening all these deep estonina soul songs from 80s, 90s...and all that,
and then i feel kind of like Trump in couple with foreigner women while it self try hard to portray patriotic and homeland values, as it is the best.
the situations can make us in to a slave, as in here, ... o women it is a risk, i mean, you did see how i cook food right, this is like good days
and then i feel kind of like Trump in couple with foreigner women while it self try hard to portray patriotic and homeland values, as it is the best.
the situations can make us in to a slave, as in here, ... o women it is a risk, i mean, you did see how i cook food right, this is like good days
2 March 2017 02:53
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
once 2 problematic minds stabilize each other they can find way to make money
2 March 2017 02:48
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
now You put me in to another OSD situation... newer expected no one from other side of ocean to reach it, newer was in my mind to involve in to it someone elsethen Estonianie.. so what should i do not, as in Know and ... the do part, you are be on expectactions anyway,
but .. but.. but
Let me eat my last bread and think about it.
As have send out shout to tens and tens of locals.. with no interest... this means, at first, you kind of should dive in to our language room.
And your affection images are slightly creepy and deep as always
but .. but.. but
Let me eat my last bread and think about it.
As have send out shout to tens and tens of locals.. with no interest... this means, at first, you kind of should dive in to our language room.
And your affection images are slightly creepy and deep as always
2 March 2017 02:44
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
Yes,
But You not an Estonian :(
... this is one language related thing i needed, just one word from a special one..
But hm.. are You sure, You free?
But You not an Estonian :(
... this is one language related thing i needed, just one word from a special one..
But hm.. are You sure, You free?
2 March 2017 02:40
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
you know this FB has started to translate the Estonian to well, it shouldbe secret code that only less then million canspeak.. but from your extraperception mind can not hide no code anyway my most extraordinary lady
this is anyway, heartthing, but more in to the thing,about try to find some Bonnie for my Clyde or was it another way around, newer sure who of them was a man actually, Clyde?
this is anyway, heartthing, but more in to the thing,about try to find some Bonnie for my Clyde or was it another way around, newer sure who of them was a man actually, Clyde?
2 March 2017 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
PS, praegune tegevus on seotud meedia puudujääkide parandmaisega
2 March 2017 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on Janika Veski's post.
vau
2 March 2017 00:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi see " Planet Dolan " tüüp viimases videos ise ka paha vaimuga ja teda pikat ja tema asju pikalt vaadata ei tasu
1 March 2017 23:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi need vähesed lekkinud asjad, vanad asjad...
kuid küsimus on, milleks seda infot kasutati.. suures plaanis..
see on see mis päriselt murettekitav on..
kuid küsimus on, milleks seda infot kasutati.. suures plaanis..
see on see mis päriselt murettekitav on..
1 March 2017 23:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvSxiFeo3dE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvSxiFeo3dE
1 March 2017 23:44
Margus Meigo commented on Bianca Kõivumägi's post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwPlFfVT7BE
1 March 2017 23:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vahest mõni üksik saab aga selliseid jamasi tekitada.. et on... eriti kui neil jumalik kaitse ja neid ei saa kergelt likvideerida, sest nad eitee vigasi, mis kaitset eemaldaks
ise nad muidugi ei mõistagi enamasti millises õnnes ja õnnestumises nad iga päev on, et üldse elus ,selliste võimude vastutorides
ise nad muidugi ei mõistagi enamasti millises õnnes ja õnnestumises nad iga päev on, et üldse elus ,selliste võimude vastutorides
1 March 2017 23:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tegelikult on aga ametlik õigus enamusi neid teste ja katsiedteha salaja ja eri linade inimeste peal ,ilma inimestele teavitamata,
küll ja küll vanasi teste ja katseid välja tulnud, kus tervishoiu ministeeriumidja sõjaväed on ühsikonnas igast teste jooksutanud, asjade kahjulikuse uurimiseks,
uurimise oluline osa on, et iniemsed ise ei saa sellest teada, sestkui nad oleks teadlikud, siis see muudaks teaduslikku protsessi, ja siis ei saa õigeid tulemusi, seega see on nii elementaarne asi, et neist asjadest ei räägita, et seda isegiei arutata.
kuid osad õnnetud laborid, või kellegigi vihastumine, või muudel põhjustel muidugi harva lekivad.. kuid enamsues mitte,sest üks leke võib teist lekettekitada, ja selles osas on inimkonna turvalisuse ja nende psyyhka kaitseks kokku lepitud, et neid asu ei räägita ja ühiselt vaikitakse maha, et mitte kahjustada inimkonna meeleseisundeid ja valitsuse või sõjaväe tööd
küll ja küll vanasi teste ja katseid välja tulnud, kus tervishoiu ministeeriumidja sõjaväed on ühsikonnas igast teste jooksutanud, asjade kahjulikuse uurimiseks,
uurimise oluline osa on, et iniemsed ise ei saa sellest teada, sestkui nad oleks teadlikud, siis see muudaks teaduslikku protsessi, ja siis ei saa õigeid tulemusi, seega see on nii elementaarne asi, et neist asjadest ei räägita, et seda isegiei arutata.
kuid osad õnnetud laborid, või kellegigi vihastumine, või muudel põhjustel muidugi harva lekivad.. kuid enamsues mitte,sest üks leke võib teist lekettekitada, ja selles osas on inimkonna turvalisuse ja nende psyyhka kaitseks kokku lepitud, et neid asu ei räägita ja ühiselt vaikitakse maha, et mitte kahjustada inimkonna meeleseisundeid ja valitsuse või sõjaväe tööd
1 March 2017 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on Bianca Kõivumägi's post.
tavaline asi usas, selles kohas makstakse vanematele raha, et nad eri lasteaedadesse panna, et siis ravimeid testida.
Mis need lapsevanemad, kuidas nad arvasid, mis moodi lastele saadud ravimid turule jõuavad?
Kõgile meeldib osta neid küll aga ei viitsita mõelda kümneid tuhandeid lapsi kes enne mürgitatud on eri katsetega, et mingi ravim turule jõuaks.
Ja ravim peab olema ainult 2/3 mitte kahjulik, et turule saada, et siis 1/3 ilma efektita, 1/3 kasuliku efektiga ja siis saab turule lasta juba, isegi kui 1/3 kahjulik oli, sest enamuses oli hea
Mis need lapsevanemad, kuidas nad arvasid, mis moodi lastele saadud ravimid turule jõuavad?
Kõgile meeldib osta neid küll aga ei viitsita mõelda kümneid tuhandeid lapsi kes enne mürgitatud on eri katsetega, et mingi ravim turule jõuaks.
Ja ravim peab olema ainult 2/3 mitte kahjulik, et turule saada, et siis 1/3 ilma efektita, 1/3 kasuliku efektiga ja siis saab turule lasta juba, isegi kui 1/3 kahjulik oli, sest enamuses oli hea
1 March 2017 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oo boy this thingsslightly irritate me
1 March 2017 23:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
it can be told, that i am slightly matriarchic undertone,
so my view is perhaps slightly biased .. but this greek-roman pederasty society (look who rule it) needs to be bring to justice!
The aristoteles was no one to praise as he not even realised basic functions how world is
their school told, (the school based on what society and school system is created) .. they told that female has only temporally importance to make new man, and when this need is replaced by technology, then man is free from this kind of usueless co-species bothering "man progress" ...
They literally told, that women only worth is to make new man, but in generally women is lover then animal in some accasions (and their understanding of animal was REALLY REALLY low, as someone with out feelings and heart, or thoughts).
This did not stop them to post fake women praising statues and positions, to keep humans under illusion, as it is done in this world... by praising women who share fashion that cut of female natural powers, starting from killing the hair, shaving, and makeup and high heels, fake nails, all that makes women LESS of a true women, who is in tuend with Her ture powers
so my view is perhaps slightly biased .. but this greek-roman pederasty society (look who rule it) needs to be bring to justice!
The aristoteles was no one to praise as he not even realised basic functions how world is
their school told, (the school based on what society and school system is created) .. they told that female has only temporally importance to make new man, and when this need is replaced by technology, then man is free from this kind of usueless co-species bothering "man progress" ...
They literally told, that women only worth is to make new man, but in generally women is lover then animal in some accasions (and their understanding of animal was REALLY REALLY low, as someone with out feelings and heart, or thoughts).
This did not stop them to post fake women praising statues and positions, to keep humans under illusion, as it is done in this world... by praising women who share fashion that cut of female natural powers, starting from killing the hair, shaving, and makeup and high heels, fake nails, all that makes women LESS of a true women, who is in tuend with Her ture powers
1 March 2017 23:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
it is not even illusion, it is crude hypnosis from what, lady's you need to wake up and realize who you are.
You do not have to beg or fight for Your rights to be "equal" as God given rights is so huge what You have, besides from nature.. that to demand to be "equal" is so massive downgrade, that is is near perverdic to think about it.
You do not have to beg or fight for Your rights to be "equal" as God given rights is so huge what You have, besides from nature.. that to demand to be "equal" is so massive downgrade, that is is near perverdic to think about it.
1 March 2017 23:14
Margus Meigo replied to Jennifer Rosellen Morgan's comment.
jennifer, shame on you, making pro "equal rights" propacanda in here??
How dare you?
it is most anty female secet program there has been on plant this is clearly most anty women idea there has been to force woem to be equal to man,
and you help it along?
shame... sad... please, come to your senses dear, Morgan you are You say?
How dare you?
it is most anty female secet program there has been on plant this is clearly most anty women idea there has been to force woem to be equal to man,
and you help it along?
shame... sad... please, come to your senses dear, Morgan you are You say?
1 March 2017 23:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
if women pay whatever they can, but should be assumed, that man loves and respects and serves the women, this is what for god and women createda man,
but as womens are tricked to be work slaves, ..
but as womens are tricked to be work slaves, ..
1 March 2017 23:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this video is good, but is to soft on the issue.
Why did women even need to point to a card...
was this guy retarded and whit out any manners, to even put women in to this situation ??
Why did women even need to point to a card...
was this guy retarded and whit out any manners, to even put women in to this situation ??
1 March 2017 23:06
Margus Meigo commented on Elite Daily's video.
Some women are under so strong Anti-women hypnosis from greek-roman pederasty society that they are unable to see, that "equal rights" is most terrible idea thatthere is, it is purelly ANTI FEMALE idea, the equal right's it is, the point of this propacanda of "equal rights" is to supress the women,to lock them awvay from their true nature and power, ... as they are forced to be equal to inferior species, trully. ... any women who demands equal rights is completly lost their idea what is Women and who they are them self, they make huge diservise to human progress and ... it is just so badit is hard to imagine, hard to even explain it.
It was made by evil man, to figure out, how to stop matriarchy ... so simple to see it, how anyone is unable to see it,
Like you @Jennifer Rosellen Morgan
It was made by evil man, to figure out, how to stop matriarchy ... so simple to see it, how anyone is unable to see it,
Like you @Jennifer Rosellen Morgan
1 March 2017 23:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Prince Harry
tie people are the ones who are on war against all Kingly1 March 2017 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on Sutina Sutina Menthong's post.
Group: Prince Harry
people on that level should not be trained towear a tie1 March 2017 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
oi raist sellel värd perverdil saab neegritega lõbus olema vanglas.. lapsenikkujatel naguinii raske olukord, kuid nüüd kui rassistist neegritega, kes valgeid, naguniiei salli, see vangla kontinget.. veel sellise enda mõjupiirkonda saavad... ... loota jääb,et ta ikkasamasse vanglasse pannakse.
kui ikka kindlalt tegu lapsenikkujaga oli, oi rsk siis saab tal olema ikka päris õõvastav põli.. kahjuks aga enamasti muidugi päti kaitseks neid asju ei tehta..1 March 2017 21:09
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Tuisk's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
vahest tundub, et see rõivas saab aru rohkem kui enamus kes irisevad,sest see oli oluline kommentaar ja asi, mida ta ütles, et ridadevahelt ja et kuulake presidenti kõnet mitukorda veel üle..
ainuüksi see juba veerib kiitust, et keegi soovitab pres. kõnet mitukorda kuulata, et selle peale saaks mõelda ja sügavamat alatooni leida1 March 2017 21:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
punased möllavad nii et on..1 March 2017 21:04
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
see kuritegevuse statistika on viisnurga EU sedustega keelatud, isegi eestis ei tohi venelasi ja eestlasi erladi välja tuua vangla statistikas1 March 2017 21:04
Margus Meigo replied to Damon Williams's comment.
You was female..., You still are Nikki right?
1 March 2017 20:37
Margus Meigo commented on Autre Personne's post.
Red is not good opton as Red is a signal color for different spiritual situations.
But then again, i am a man, what i know .. maybe red is this worning color that is needed for it... i would reccomend linen color, ....or to stick out the Yellow.... and ofcourse no makeup and no high heels that is a bit of anti-women fasion and tools,
But then again, i am a man, what i know .. maybe red is this worning color that is needed for it... i would reccomend linen color, ....or to stick out the Yellow.... and ofcourse no makeup and no high heels that is a bit of anti-women fasion and tools,
1 March 2017 20:36
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Kiisk's post.
1 March 2017 19:39
Margus Meigo replied to Salaam Shabazz's comment.
Group: Islamic Christian forum (ilm-ul-adyan for those seeking knowledge)
Thank You!1 March 2017 14:24
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Tänud ka Sulle Triin, vestlusele Elu andmiseks1 March 2017 10:01
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
kuid ma nüüd vahetan kanalit, vaja muudes ilmades ka toimetada, oli meeldiv, ja nagu ikka Hariv.
Võid edasi veel jagada siin igast transeksuaalidest joodiklitsidest infot , kõik on abiks meie kodumaa kaitseks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45lg9Qr_DUkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45lg9Qr_DUk
1 March 2017 10:00
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
kuid enemasti meeldib neil tyhja ringi karata ja lärmi teha ja rituaale, sest nende võimed nagunii mujalt kui jumala taimedelt tulevad.. päris shamaani taimi nad võtavad ettevaatlikult ja seda ka enamasti moe pärast, sest suurtemates kogustes,.. oi ... siis nad juba muude, päris jõudude käes mida kardetakse.
eestis neid ringiratast karglevaid ja rituaalitseiaid küll, kui uurima hakata, kui tõsiseid taimi ja kui tõsiselt nad siis söövad. .siis nagu heal juhul mõned minsiit lääne ayuaska pehmet rituaali on teinud1 March 2017 09:59
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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ei loo moraal on, et Pedro rääkis tõtt öeldes "Äh, ei ole see don Pedro mingi šamaan. Ajab ainult mullikesi"
sa ikka õpi moraal enne selgeks, sügavalt, enne jagamist.
Shamaanid ei tarbi alkoholi, mustad "shamaanid" aga küll, neile läheb mis iganes sest nad teenivad... sinu peret ja seda vereliini. Võtavad vere ohverdusi jms1 March 2017 09:57
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
sinu sõnamaagia ei toimi minusuguste peal, publikule võib muljet avaldada, tõde jääb ikka tõeks.,1 March 2017 09:54
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
sina võid oma alkoholi ülistada, see sinu TÖÖ kuid reaalsus jääb reaalsuseks, ja kes arenguastmes nii madal on, et vajab alkoholi oma pale näitamiseks, siis mis nendest rääkida.
mis totter küsimus see on, "Millist" nagu oleks siin valida1 March 2017 09:52
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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alakohol on shamaani üks suurimaid vaenlasi, sest siis ta enam ei teeni jumalat kui sellele mustale teele läheb1 March 2017 09:50
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Nu ega ta minu emast ülemat ikka ei ole, üritagu palju soovib.
Pealegi, üski päris samaan alkoholi ei joo, see on põlastusäärne nõrkade ja saatanate, naise vaenlaste jook1 March 2017 09:50
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
nad määravad universumi vanuseid (ärme neist naeruväärsetest meetotitest üldse rääkimagi hakka) kuid nad pole suutnud veel oma targa joonlauaga ära mõõta ega aru saada mis unenäodki on,
nu millest me siis räägime..1 March 2017 09:46
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
jeerum, ärme nüüd siin SEDA matemaatikat küll kasutama hakka... oled Sa ika päris kindel, et oled muudes aegruumides ja maa laborites liikunud ja... hmm.. põnev, et miks shamaani grupis nii arvatakse1 March 2017 09:45
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
kahjuks need kes nii ei arvanud, siin igast soperdisi loonud kes uputavad..1 March 2017 09:43
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
ei, nii on praktiline ja mõistlik ja ainuõige arvata, sest nii on1 March 2017 09:43
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
kuid nagu tähesõdade filmis, kahjuks nad osad ära unustanud.. ja siis tulevad ringiga tagasi, oma enda emat vägistama1 March 2017 09:42
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
see "elu" meissse ei puutu, sest ELU saavad nad siit,1 March 2017 09:41
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Ja sellest planeedist midagi suuremat ja võimsamat ei saa kunagi olema1 March 2017 09:40
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
kuid minul Sinuga Naine pole mingit kana kitkuda, seda ma ei pea muidugi Sulle ütlema, sest seda teate isegi, kuid juhuks, kui kellegile väärarusaam viirastus, et minusuguste misjoon midagi muud on, kui Naist teenida,
ehk siis käsku täita ja eesmärki milleks Jumalaga meid verehinnaga loosid, selleks, et kurjuse eest armastust kaitsta.
Proverbs (Tarkusesõnad, Õpetussõnad) ptk 8 ; osad loevad ja ei saagi aru, et Naine räägib sääl... või noh, kogu see peatükk, Tarkus ise, on Nais soost, kuid miskid paadunud perverdid siin tahavad miskit võrdõiguslust ajada ja suruvad seda naistele ka peale, umbes nagu oleks võimalik et need eelmised seemned kellest siin rääkisime, saaksid oma kõrgeimas astmeis madalaima naisenergia ligigi oma suurimas unistuse edus.
Muidugi naise kohus on mitmel poolel kaasa mängida, et kurjus ise endale püüdepaela kooks, ja naisel ei saa olema kunagi süüd, sest need kes naise nahas, naist teesklevad need omamoodi töölised kes oma tööd teevad.
Kuid naise valu ja vaev, muudes ilmaruumides kokku, ei ole võrreldav ja ei saagi olla, sest hoopis erinevatel tasanditel reaalsused ja mehejaoks on naine ainukene hinge päästevärav siin, ... muidugi siis on mingi uue testamendi fännid siin oma rooma-greeka tõlgendustega, las nad olla.
Oluline on, et õige normaalsus taastuks, ja jõutasakaal nii kuidas olema peaks, Matriarhaatia1 March 2017 09:33
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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ja sööb veelgi.1 March 2017 09:23
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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Olen küll jah.
Mulle tundub, et ma siin olen ainukene kes sellistes kogustes seeni söönud on, et rääkida võib. Mitte ei teoritiseeri1 March 2017 09:22
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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Triin Kliss kui suure koguse siis kärbseseeni sõid ja mis siis järgmine päev sõid otsa ja enam ei toiminud, ausalt räägid v?1 March 2017 09:20
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
kas räägid teoorias või praktikas?
Raul siin suur shamaan-teadja, ta saab öelda kohe... kas ja mis tolerants kärbseseenel tekib1 March 2017 09:19
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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kärpseseen ei ole psühedeelikum Triin, armas jumal küll..1 March 2017 09:17
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
kuigi neist ainult siis kasu, kui ikka nädalaega järjest suure korvi sööd, usu mind, nii nõustuti ka vanade eestlaste poolt sealpool, et sellel pea maha kes ei söö, et selline oli kord vanasti1 March 2017 09:08
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
ja tänud ka, et eiole siiamaani veel oma võimu kasutanud ja blokerinud,
minig mehelikus ikka säilinud, ju sa vist ikka päriselt isegi mõne kärbseseene söönud, mine tea, saab asja ka veel1 March 2017 09:07
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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enda ja teiste, kellele seda vaja mida räägid, et oma silmaga nähakse1 March 2017 09:04
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
ei tunne, kindlasti ei tunne, pole põhjust, ma rohkem muretsen enda pärast ikka1 March 2017 09:04
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
hari veel, ega see mööda külgi maha ei jookse, selgindab veelgi asja1 March 2017 09:02
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
see kuidas sa käsitled viitab deemonluse ja saatanismi mõjule, kuid siin pole selles osas meil ju lahkarvamusi, nõustume mõlemad.,
Sina kahjuksaga proovid peale suruda mulle valearusaama, nagu mina samast seemnest oleks pärit mis sina,
Usu mind kullake,ei ole1 March 2017 09:00
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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väga õige, et ta minig kahtlasele vabamüürluse rituaalileei läinud, eesti naine,hammustasasja läbi kohe1 March 2017 08:57
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
ja kuna nad naise võimu., see pedekari põlastab, siis "nõiad" oli üks esimesi suuri sihtmärke1 March 2017 08:57
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
muide seda teab iga üks kes viitsinud nauke uurida, et need olid normannid, viikingid, palga mõrvaid ja palga sõdurid "kristlaste" rüüs, et oma võimu krikiku sildi alla rõvedalt peale suruda,
ega siis ometi päris usuline arva, et Lutheri usul midagi kristlikusega pistmist ole?
See vend avalikult kirjutas instruktsioone kuidas juute hävitada tuleb, ja need "ristisõdalased" lõid kasti kõik mungad ja pärisusulised kes teele ette tulid1 March 2017 08:55
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
kes need kapikristlased on, ?
uus lause, pole varem kuulnud1 March 2017 08:54
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
kuid ära isiklikult võta, võta vabalt, : )1 March 2017 08:51
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Protestantide, lutheri usulistega paras ühte punti sind panna1 March 2017 08:50
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
sinu vabadus ka lõputult ei kesta1 March 2017 08:50
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
ja hirmus ikka bönnitakse ku itõde suureks läheb1 March 2017 08:49
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Ei Raul, Sinu liigiga sedasi ,et Sina Raalselt, ei vastuta millegi eest, Sest sind ei ole olemas1 March 2017 08:49
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
nii tarkuse, kasulikuse kui püsima jäämise poolt,
Headuse ka1 March 2017 08:48
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Triin Kliss oleneb keda shamaaniks pead ja kes ennast shamaniks kuidas peab.
Kuid lõpuks jääb püsima tõde. (jah tõde on olemas, elementaarne)
Kuid liha kasutatakse ku ivaja, erinevate vaimumaailmas saadud kehakahjustuste likivdeerimiseks ja ajutisteks olemuspära mutmisteks, ka erinevatesse võitlustesse astudes , et lua illusiooni, et kellegi teisega tegu ja siis õige rüü selga võtta.,
Sesttaimed on alati üle lihast1 March 2017 08:47
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Nu jah, proovisid küll aga välja tuli nagu ikka,
tänud veelkord selgitamise ja tõestuseeest.
Teen sellest ekraanipildid nüüd juhuks kui ära kustutad, et mul meeles oleks, ja peatse kuskil kunagi (mitte ,et aeg olemas oleks..) kohtumiseni.1 March 2017 08:45
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
ega muidugi raske vastata eks ilma, et lõksu astuks1 March 2017 08:43
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
ütle nüüd otse välja, toetad pederastiat või töötad selle likivideerimiseks?
Oled greeka-rooma, aristotelese naise vastase filooofia toetaja või pigem naturaalsete inimeste, juutide jms matriarhaatliku suuna pooldaja ?
Pigem liha järaja ja jõuga naise üle võtja poodaja
või taimetoiduline ja süva tunnetuste ja armu külvaja?1 March 2017 08:42
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
mis sa arvad, et ühte liiki ja sorti inimesi on ainult v :D
(ei nu tean, et tegelt ei arva.. aga see üks kurjuse propakanda, mõni arvab, et lausa ahvist tulnud :D)1 March 2017 08:40
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
nu seleta lahti see lause nüüd, see võib iga ühe meeles mida iganes tähendada, sõna saatan seleta lahti ja mis see ürgne mees su arust on, keegi kes nui käes ring jooksis ja jänestel päid puruks tagus ja vägistamistega naisi endale varus v1 March 2017 08:39
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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Shamaanid algselt olitki naised ainult Imbit Aalberg
ja kui mees asja ajab, siis tal vaja ihukarvi, et olla reaalsete armastus ja maa energiatega ühenduses., muu vaiupeal toimivatel, muidugi seda vaja pole sest neil pole ohtu et kuskitl teest kõrvale lähevad1 March 2017 08:38
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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Räägi siis päris käsitlusest, ja tõest oma ruudust, mitte ära liberaalitse ja tee teisi asju maha ilma et ise ütleks kuidas on...
Enamasti uduks läheb ja hakatakse udutama "nu päriselt ei sa seletada.. nu raske ... ja aru ka ei saaks te nagunii.. jne"
kuid proovi nüüd
räägi siis, kuidas see saatana asi on, sul pere poliitika peaks käepärast olema, lihtne otse vaimust rääkida tõde1 March 2017 08:37
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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eks igal sepal, olenevalt kust poolt ja mis eesmärkidega ta on, on oma käsitlused ja eesmärgid, miks oma sorti käsitlust propakeerida1 March 2017 08:36
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Grupi eesmärk on täitsa meelekohane,
Kuid palun ära nii labaseks enam muutu , et küsid retoorilisi küsimusi, "milliisest saatanast" räägite jne.
Tead väga hästi, millisest.
Ja kes enne juuste ja habemeta shamaani näinud, :D1 March 2017 08:34
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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ikka julged eks?
Hoiaksin kohe listis,
teeme saunad ja asjad,
ja kui julged mu rohud võtta... ja võtan sugi rohud, senikaua kui need otse kurjast ei ole (on selged taimed mis on shamaanide poolt heaks ja halvaks liigitatud, dileeriumi jms asjad ei ole minu kasutuseks, puhtad psühedeelikumid, kärbseseened, ja veel mõned sordid on aga Tugevasti meelepärased )1 March 2017 08:32
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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nu ja siis?
Kas see muudab su olemust v?
Minupärast ole Kristliku grupi administraator, olemus jääb ikka samaks, seni kni seda Eestivastast olemust endaga kaasas kannad.,
Eks on neid vapraid ka, kes oma kesta maha jätnud, kuid ei ma sellesse suurt usu.
Kuid täitsa põnev oleks Sinuga üksaeg kokku saada, võtame oma rohud kaasa ja teeme ühe korraliku vaimurännaku, sest siinmaapeal üksteist pekstes kaugele ei jõua, vaatame mis me suurused on ja kes mida adub1 March 2017 08:29
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
mis sa arvad, et ku ima muudes vaimuilmades käin, siis käime seal sinusuguseid onamas v?
Ei me käime struktuure loomas, kuidas välised sidemed teil siin maa jõududega läbi lõigata, sest ega sellest piisa kui teidsiin ükshaaval labidaga pähe taguda, ühe pea võtad ja lupsti on järgmine juba analiseeritud,
sest ega siis inimeses suurt asja pole, sinusugused ju mis see keha sulle on.. see transport ainult kurja tegemiseks ja selle materialiseerimiseks,1 March 2017 08:27
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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mida teeb saatan ja deemonid siin grupis pigem küsimus, sest shamanis on seliste väärnunud looduse osa likvideerimiseks loodud, mitte selle seemendamiseks, Sulle informatsiooniks (nagu sa ei teaks, tead küll, aga sinu mäng käib, suhtlus mitte Mulle vaid Publikule .. )1 March 2017 08:25
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kui sa paremaga lagedale ei tule, siis ikka.. mõtle veel, alavääristad oma sugu sedasi.
Võin su resumeed edasi lugeda:
Perverdsed sex huvid, naiste persse trukkimine, susimine ja nilbitsemine, muuseas valde mainimine ja ussitamine kui vaja sitta keerata, samas ei ütle ära ka sitaksasse keeramise eest kui ikka asine olukord on või vaja lihtsalt tunnet, ürgset, et võimutsed ja naisest lihtsalt ei piisa sest see ei tundu enam mingi vägitükk olema neid alla suruda, kuna liialt lihtne ja kerge saak, kuna nad loomult juba alluma pantud mehele läbi armu.
Kuid jah, mis su viimased töökohad olnud on, kas teisi teenivad või teisi teenima panevad?
Mida ihaldad, kas arvad, et peded on viimane pervertsus või arvad, et igal ühel oma õigus olla kuidas soovib?1 March 2017 08:22
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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kuid ka teie soo jaoks on püüdepal kuigi, eks eliit jää viimaseks, seega teil veel pidu pikalt,1 March 2017 08:11
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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Ei nu sinult saaks kindlasti suut ja huvitavat informatsiooni su suguluspuu kohta, sinusugune deemon ka minu esimese armastuse röövis.
Sinusuguseid Sügavalt ei häiri pedofiilia ja sofiilia "teatud piirides" ja üldiselt muidu ei pane pahaks valetamist ja nõrgemate allasurumist.
Kuid kuna sigusuguste loomus ja veri on puhtalt kurjaliinis, siis te väga intelligentsed ja jõulised, edukad ja noh.. ühiskonas üldiselt respekteeritud silme all kuigi seljataga kõi kteavad... et kellega tegu, muidugi päris sügavalt keegi ei julge mõelda...
Sinusuguste töökohad enamasti on inimresursid ja kohad kus saate energiate ja võimudega askeldada, kuid ometigi jääte naturaalsemaks ja looduselähedasemaks kui enamus orjad ja ohvrid kes lipsuga kivimajadevahel jooksevad lootusetult1 March 2017 08:10
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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Vaatasin nüüd Su pilti, ja muidugi oled sellest seemnest.
nu mis parata, tervist, Hello, nice to meet You!
"i have been around long long years..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkXIYgsvO0c1 March 2017 08:05
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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nu siis sa oled omadega persses, pole midagi parata.
Muidugi selles osas, et siis sina SELLEST seemenest oled.
Teatavasti see sinu piibel, ka räägib nii Kainist kes kurjusest ja kelle seemnest igast edukad pätid tulid ja siis eeva teisest lapsest, kellest muidugi esimene kohe maha löödi kaini poolt.
Asjad on nii lihtsaks tehtud, et laps ka aru saaks, ja siis kes sügavamalt soovivad, hakkavad nende lugude ümber visualiseerima tegelikust, et mis oli ja kuidas, et mis selle loo tekitada sai1 March 2017 08:04
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nu nende definitsioon kõige selgemaks teeb asja jah kes muidu tuhm ja aru ei taha saada1 March 2017 08:01
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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sinna sekka käib ka suur kosmiline AI , robot, kuid see juba ka teema mis vajab ülemõtlemist suurema hulga inimestega,1 March 2017 08:00
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Hunt's comment.
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seda on üks suures plaanis, kuid saatan pole kurat..
Kuid siis jah, see kes töötab tehnoloogiate ja liikiega mis inimesi kütusteks kasutavad ja relvastuseks, meie looja ja naise vastu , ka loodus kuna see inimest toetav, ei ole nende meelis listis ja sellepärast inimese ja looduse vahele nad ka nii suurt mõra tekitada üritavad kui saavad, et inimene eisaaks loodust kaitsta ja loodus inimest.
Kuid üldiselt jah, jutt käib lühidalt inimorjastajate eliit klassist. eks neid eri pätte ja olendeid ole palju, kuid ju nad ikka sarnastele jõududele lõppude lõpuks alluvad ja mine tea, kas seal tippus on nüüd see lutsifer, mingi supper ingel kes ära pööras või mitte, aga need jõud siin on reaalsed ja manifisteerivad nii lipsumeeste kui viisnurga kandjate, kommunistide ja greeka-roomlastena1 March 2017 07:58
Margus Meigo replied to Helina Salumets's comment.
muidu jah, kontsad on naiste vastastelt homodelt toodud sundkultuur meelte ja suhete rikkumiseks,
1 March 2017 06:58
Margus Meigo replied to Helina Salumets's comment.
jeerum
1 March 2017 06:58
Margus Meigo commented on Helina Salumets's photo.
ega Sa nendega ometi kõnni:D
1 March 2017 02:35
Margus Meigo commented on Helina Salumets's photo.
oi sa raks...
1 March 2017 02:34
Margus Meigo replied to Jin Kingin's comment.
tell me about it.
For me, i can not really do it if there is no women on the team, and if there is is no team... but yea, good to hear it so
For me, i can not really do it if there is no women on the team, and if there is is no team... but yea, good to hear it so
1 March 2017 01:53
Margus Meigo replied to Jin Kingin's comment.
can you tell me some outlines, what it is about, the reason and direction, outcome ?
Against what and for what? .. or something
Against what and for what? .. or something
1 March 2017 01:51
Margus Meigo replied to Jin Kingin's comment.
how You mean, what odin, you mean this transgender women raper Odin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindr or who ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindr
1 March 2017 01:23
Margus Meigo commented on Bianca Kõivumägi's post.
selle taimega sedasi, et seda tuleb Naise jaoks kasutada.. muidu sedasi, et armutakse taime rohkem kui naisesse kui aluspõhi paigas pole.. ja siis ollakse jällegi eri maailmades oma peadega..
Kuid jaa.. raviõlina ta on räägitud väga kõrge väärtusega olema..
peaasi, et keegi neid lollusi ei tee, et koos tubakaga neid asju tegema hakkab, poe tubakaga veel.. siis sügavamate tõdedeni peatselt enam ei saa jõuda.. ja jääb ringlema ringlema pealiskaudsesse paradiisi kuni kõik kadunud on (muidugi oleneb inimese liigist, moni muud sorti ja siis neile see sama kahjulikult ei mõju kui kaasmaalastele, kuid.. ega siis need kellele endale pahasti suits ei mõju, ega need siis tava inimestele hästi mõjuma pea, need inimesed.... tark naine juba teab ammu ,et suitsu ja alkoholi meestest tuleb eemal hoida, sest on peaaegu et kindlalt võimatu ,et sellest midagi pikaealist ja head välja saab tulla.. need vaimud pärast keeravad peas ajad vastupidi ja sindennast veel teiste vigades süüdistama hakatakse... ja sinu õrnust ja armastust ei mõrgata.. sest muu vaim rahuldab heaolud..)
Kuid jaa.. raviõlina ta on räägitud väga kõrge väärtusega olema..
peaasi, et keegi neid lollusi ei tee, et koos tubakaga neid asju tegema hakkab, poe tubakaga veel.. siis sügavamate tõdedeni peatselt enam ei saa jõuda.. ja jääb ringlema ringlema pealiskaudsesse paradiisi kuni kõik kadunud on (muidugi oleneb inimese liigist, moni muud sorti ja siis neile see sama kahjulikult ei mõju kui kaasmaalastele, kuid.. ega siis need kellele endale pahasti suits ei mõju, ega need siis tava inimestele hästi mõjuma pea, need inimesed.... tark naine juba teab ammu ,et suitsu ja alkoholi meestest tuleb eemal hoida, sest on peaaegu et kindlalt võimatu ,et sellest midagi pikaealist ja head välja saab tulla.. need vaimud pärast keeravad peas ajad vastupidi ja sindennast veel teiste vigades süüdistama hakatakse... ja sinu õrnust ja armastust ei mõrgata.. sest muu vaim rahuldab heaolud..)
1 March 2017 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to Dennis Petrak's comment.
looking support for mass terminatons of anti-nature mindsets and implement vacinations for future minds about viruses that turn humans unloving self destructive organisms.
Building bridges between knowledges that can support each other to combat natural thought elimination and poke holes in to shallow illusions in where someones hope to trap us long enought that time would take care of rest.
Building bridges between knowledges that can support each other to combat natural thought elimination and poke holes in to shallow illusions in where someones hope to trap us long enought that time would take care of rest.
28 February 2017 01:34
Margus Meigo replied to Dennis Petrak's comment.
i only serial kill mindviruses that decrase good values among humans
28 February 2017 01:30
Margus Meigo replied to Dennis Petrak's comment.
You thought the George right ? : )
28 February 2017 01:26
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
but mostly breathing..
28 February 2017 01:25
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
Water and calm calm deep breathing with godly intentions of self and world healing
28 February 2017 01:24
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
also, after a time You relaize, that all the Good things will give you good night sleep, give you life energy and wellbeing and more free time.
28 February 2017 01:24
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
please rest... relax.. and make sure NLP is not doing programming on You.. not usre what and whos course You use but there is massive amount of energy suckers and communist programmers on these sections..
Keep psychdellics natural near by, to make sure You stay in reallity and have no agendas slipped on to your mind..
everything world offers You, look : if that actually enpowers women to be more true to them self, more better to unknowns and is it taking back us to our roots and acient wisdom's of female superiority
Keep psychdellics natural near by, to make sure You stay in reallity and have no agendas slipped on to your mind..
everything world offers You, look : if that actually enpowers women to be more true to them self, more better to unknowns and is it taking back us to our roots and acient wisdom's of female superiority
28 February 2017 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to Bianca Kõivumägi's comment.
Group: Tutvus
tark naine kes seda mõistab ja julgeb öelda ka tänapäeva pealiskaudsete seas27 February 2017 23:52
Margus Meigo commented on Bianca Kõivumägi's post.
Ainult ühele naisele keskendudes üldse saab tunnetust mis naine tegelikult on,
kui juba kaks on siis on nii mitukorda vähem, et ei anna samale skaalale pannagi.
kui juba kaks on siis on nii mitukorda vähem, et ei anna samale skaalale pannagi.
27 February 2017 23:50
Margus Meigo commented on Bianca Kõivumägi's post.
tegelikult saad armastust,
nugasi saad siis kui endal pole suvatust olla selgeks õppida mis on korralikud inimsed ja mis on tõde ja mis on vale..
paljud elavad luuludes nagu õiget ja vale ja tõde polekski olemas, ja siis imestavad... miks neil raskesti läheb
nugasi saad siis kui endal pole suvatust olla selgeks õppida mis on korralikud inimsed ja mis on tõde ja mis on vale..
paljud elavad luuludes nagu õiget ja vale ja tõde polekski olemas, ja siis imestavad... miks neil raskesti läheb
27 February 2017 23:46
Margus Meigo replied to Bianca Kõivumägi's comment.
Group: Tutvus
just kui naistel hakkab rõskeks minema, et just õige maamees traktoriga, teab kuidas maa ja kodu eest hoolt kanda,siis tuleb välja, et ei olegi, mingi linnavurle teeb selfisi traktoriga vist ainult :D27 February 2017 23:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
think how hard is to grow up like that... as You know You saw something but You really can not talk about it.. think about on what level the tech is right now,,, unimaginable what they come at us with if needed..
27 February 2017 23:37
Margus Meigo commented on Susan Eason's post.
Amazing man, outlived so much with hes Wife
And unfortuantelly so little known in this side of clobe.
.. was supriced to see that hes Carter Center has base in 75 country's!
Also little from hes known hard issues..
__
UFO The sighting is said to have had a personal impact on Carter and his perception of UFO and UFO sightings. During his 1976 election campaign, he is said to have told reporters that, as a result of it, he would institute a policy of openness if he were elected to office, saying:
"One thing's for sure, I'll never make fun of people who say they've seen unidentified objects in the sky. If I become President, I'll make every piece of information this country has about UFO sightings available to the public and the scientists."
Despite his earlier pledge, once elected, Carter distanced himself from disclosure, citing "defense implications" as being behind his decision
--
So it was made known to him, that there is powers that You can not mess with.. and they are more then Your office..
Wonder what Hillary would have done.. reasons also why She was not allowed to be..
And unfortuantelly so little known in this side of clobe.
.. was supriced to see that hes Carter Center has base in 75 country's!
Also little from hes known hard issues..
__
UFO The sighting is said to have had a personal impact on Carter and his perception of UFO and UFO sightings. During his 1976 election campaign, he is said to have told reporters that, as a result of it, he would institute a policy of openness if he were elected to office, saying:
"One thing's for sure, I'll never make fun of people who say they've seen unidentified objects in the sky. If I become President, I'll make every piece of information this country has about UFO sightings available to the public and the scientists."
Despite his earlier pledge, once elected, Carter distanced himself from disclosure, citing "defense implications" as being behind his decision
--
So it was made known to him, that there is powers that You can not mess with.. and they are more then Your office..
Wonder what Hillary would have done.. reasons also why She was not allowed to be..
27 February 2017 23:36
Margus Meigo commented on Susan Eason's post.
They kind of forgot ho Ali helped to save group of americans from Sadam back on the days.. and now this kind of treatement for the son.. let's make cultural hate great again
27 February 2017 23:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in some another level, that is horrifing to think of.
My spiritual view was, in vision that it was hostile overtake of america, ...
My spiritual view was, in vision that it was hostile overtake of america, ...
27 February 2017 23:19
Margus Meigo commented on Susan Eason's post.
when George speaks out against Trump then things must be really bad.
27 February 2017 23:18
Margus Meigo replied to Susan Eason's comment.
Thank You!
hard to find ANY support for these knd of understandings
hard to find ANY support for these knd of understandings
27 February 2017 23:14
Margus Meigo replied to Susan Eason's comment.
i also know most lutherian church people to be nice, but in truth their organisation is more of the satan then most
they belive that not important the good you do in earth as it is irrelevant that you are saved by christ and this is all what matters, so they do not engadge in physical good doing to strangers specially, as it is against their true beliefs
but most people in person, in churches, are nice and many are true belivers newer even realazing that Luther send letters around the world abut instructions how and why to eliminate all Jewish people (jewish, from who they got a bible..)
they belive that not important the good you do in earth as it is irrelevant that you are saved by christ and this is all what matters, so they do not engadge in physical good doing to strangers specially, as it is against their true beliefs
but most people in person, in churches, are nice and many are true belivers newer even realazing that Luther send letters around the world abut instructions how and why to eliminate all Jewish people (jewish, from who they got a bible..)
27 February 2017 23:11
Margus Meigo replied to Susan Eason's comment.
Angelica Ravenna well, i have seen my ovn eyes gay people who try to say they are equally worth to a women, that is rediculas,
they even say women is not needed
how can man be a worth same to a women, and to be a "equal" ... they even in to ideology that sex does not matter and all that evil anti-women stuff.
Perhaps Your few friends in person are different, but in at large You got to look the agenda and forces behind it all.
They try to make female sex irrelevant, and in future less worth then robot womens, as this is greek-roman pederasty long dream to eliminate women, in aristoteles view and others like that only benafit for women was to make another man with it and it has to e done so as long sciense and man progresss to higher level when women body is not needed anymore with all the "irrantional" emotions etc.
they even say women is not needed
how can man be a worth same to a women, and to be a "equal" ... they even in to ideology that sex does not matter and all that evil anti-women stuff.
Perhaps Your few friends in person are different, but in at large You got to look the agenda and forces behind it all.
They try to make female sex irrelevant, and in future less worth then robot womens, as this is greek-roman pederasty long dream to eliminate women, in aristoteles view and others like that only benafit for women was to make another man with it and it has to e done so as long sciense and man progresss to higher level when women body is not needed anymore with all the "irrantional" emotions etc.
27 February 2017 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Ravenna's post.
important to remeber also, that these was greek-roman minded people and wikings, normans, assasins and pay-soldiers in costumes of cristian war people, ...as they newer was nothing related to christian, as newer protestant, specially Luther satan newer was pro christian, he was anti-women and anti-jewish (becouse many reason besides them being matriarchial)
But in history their crimes is looked as "christian" newer anyone bothering to realize and look.. what kind of "christian" they was,
they just used the system to penetrate their criminal ideology in to Europe, as it is great sheald that no one dare to touch.. and they had unlimited power to do what they want and top of all all the crimes ended up against their true enemy "christians" so it was so many ways win win, specially for supressing women, using for that pseudo new testament.
www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm
But in history their crimes is looked as "christian" newer anyone bothering to realize and look.. what kind of "christian" they was,
they just used the system to penetrate their criminal ideology in to Europe, as it is great sheald that no one dare to touch.. and they had unlimited power to do what they want and top of all all the crimes ended up against their true enemy "christians" so it was so many ways win win, specially for supressing women, using for that pseudo new testament.
www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm
http://www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm
27 February 2017 23:05
Margus Meigo replied to Susan Eason's comment.
great part of transgender ideology is anti-women
if people only manage to remeber and understand anymore what women is and for what She stands for, in true matriarchial world (even in avarage jewsih world that is last largest matriarchial ideology and culture left in earth, besides few native networks)
if people only manage to remeber and understand anymore what women is and for what She stands for, in true matriarchial world (even in avarage jewsih world that is last largest matriarchial ideology and culture left in earth, besides few native networks)
27 February 2017 23:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Our job is to feed machine with information that we need machine to know and see, elementary
27 February 2017 22:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this is SO elementary,
"On its website, Cambridge Analytica makes the astonishing boast that it has psychological profiles based on 5,000 separate pieces of data on 220 million American voters – its USP is to use this data to understand people’s deepest emotions and then target them accordingly. The system, according to Albright, amounted to a “propaganda machine”.
strange, that people need news to think about it as this should be most basic thing that tens's of intelligence services and corporations do ALL thetime, this is what for most of the internet was made in their view.
"On its website, Cambridge Analytica makes the astonishing boast that it has psychological profiles based on 5,000 separate pieces of data on 220 million American voters – its USP is to use this data to understand people’s deepest emotions and then target them accordingly. The system, according to Albright, amounted to a “propaganda machine”.
strange, that people need news to think about it as this should be most basic thing that tens's of intelligence services and corporations do ALL thetime, this is what for most of the internet was made in their view.
27 February 2017 22:57
Margus Meigo commented on Mary Lane's post.
Do not enter out, this is what is wanted .. that thesewho have mind to seperate and exlude them
Everyone know from beginning, that the CIAbook has hes ovn agenda, and that's okey. it is what You do with the tools You get.
Much mure bigger chance that in some other smaller pages Your complete info is used for anything , we should get over of that issues about someone is looking what we do in internet, ofcoursethey do, it is their job and goodthey do it, so when right people get in charge then tools are all here to find every single bastard.
But when all the good people run in seperate directions, broking network lines then these times are far awavy.
Everyone know from beginning, that the CIAbook has hes ovn agenda, and that's okey. it is what You do with the tools You get.
Much mure bigger chance that in some other smaller pages Your complete info is used for anything , we should get over of that issues about someone is looking what we do in internet, ofcoursethey do, it is their job and goodthey do it, so when right people get in charge then tools are all here to find every single bastard.
But when all the good people run in seperate directions, broking network lines then these times are far awavy.
27 February 2017 22:56
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's post.
loooks terrible and lifeless
27 February 2017 20:54
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Tuisk's post.
Group: EESTIMAAD SÜDAMES HOIDES
nu mis asja ta siis valesti ütles, juhtis ajude kasutamise tähelepanu,
"«hästi palju peenelt mõistetavat alltooni, ridade vahel öeldut ja seda kõne on võimalik paremini mõista siis, kui seda mitu korda uuesti ja uuesti lugeda.»
selline liberaalide klähimise meetod, et urised ja prärtsud mille iganes kallal saad ilma mõtlemata, mida öeldud on.
Mida iganes rõivas ütleb ikka ei sobi, oleks samad sõnad mõni teine öelnud, siis oleks jagatud "vaata kus ikka hästi ütles"
suht haige, kui viimased parempoolsed ka nagu vaskapoolsed kutsaikad käituma hakkavad ja kuulekalt punase käsuliini mõttemaailma siin koperrivad27 February 2017 19:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But considering, that there is HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of costumers, for these sites, ... arresting these numbers we call in news.. is a bit ... small, innit?
27 February 2017 18:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but bastar politicans allow them self to be a players of arresting on initiating these arrests . Bastars, cutting fame of pain.
27 February 2017 18:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
A total of 150 terabytes of data, including photos, videos and chat transcripts was seized in an operation codenamed "Dark Room," which was the largest operation of its kind carried out in Norway.
(Nov 21 2016)
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/fbis-dark-web-child-porn-investigation-stretched-to-norway-playpen
https://www.nrk.no/hordaland/dette-vet-vi-om-operasjon-_dark-room_-1.13237865
(Nov 21 2016)
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/fbis-dark-web-child-porn-investigation-stretched-to-norway-playpen
https://www.nrk.no/hordaland/dette-vet-vi-om-operasjon-_dark-room_-1.13237865
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/fbis-dark-web-child-porn-investigation-stretched-to-norway-playpen
27 February 2017 18:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
DA’s press conference on sexual exploitation arrests across southern California.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4R3tDA1CBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4R3tDA1CBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4R3tDA1CBo
27 February 2017 18:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Canada, a recent Project Spade press conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiS9hoImDL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiS9hoImDL0
27 February 2017 18:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
All years data: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/ (download on right side)
so here is 2016 data:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/preliminary-semiannual-uniform-crime-report-januaryjune-2016/cius-2016-preliminary-excel-files.zip (including Percent Change, for Consecutive
Years 2012-2016 )
2015:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/preliminary-semiannual-uniform-crime-report-januaryjune-2015/downloads/preliminary-semiannual-uniform-crime-report-january-june-2015-excel-files.zip/at_download/file
oh yeah.. and kind of forget to mention the downhall, what states had 2 main pedo arests... (the most rebublican states you can imagine)
so here is 2016 data:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/preliminary-semiannual-uniform-crime-report-januaryjune-2016/cius-2016-preliminary-excel-files.zip (including Percent Change, for Consecutive
Years 2012-2016 )
2015:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/preliminary-semiannual-uniform-crime-report-januaryjune-2015/downloads/preliminary-semiannual-uniform-crime-report-january-june-2015-excel-files.zip/at_download/file
oh yeah.. and kind of forget to mention the downhall, what states had 2 main pedo arests... (the most rebublican states you can imagine)
27 February 2017 18:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as it is kind of strange they forget to mention, that this new program was just initiated few jears ago, that present this data.
"In 2013, the FBI’s UCR Program initiated the collection of rape data under a revised definition within the Summary Based Reporting System. The term “forcible” was removed from the offense name, and the definition was changed to “penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”
The number of rape incidents reported using the revised definition, as well as the number of rapes submitted using the legacy definition, are included in this report in separate columns in each table. The rape figures for those agencies that changed from reporting rape under the legacy definition in 2014 to the revised definition in 2015 are not included in trend "
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/preliminary-semiannual-uniform-crime-report-januaryjune-2015
"In 2013, the FBI’s UCR Program initiated the collection of rape data under a revised definition within the Summary Based Reporting System. The term “forcible” was removed from the offense name, and the definition was changed to “penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”
The number of rape incidents reported using the revised definition, as well as the number of rapes submitted using the legacy definition, are included in this report in separate columns in each table. The rape figures for those agencies that changed from reporting rape under the legacy definition in 2014 to the revised definition in 2015 are not included in trend "
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/preliminary-semiannual-uniform-crime-report-januaryjune-2015
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/preliminary-semiannual-uniform-crime-report-januaryjune-2015
27 February 2017 18:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And when people sharing the made up article, one and the same Townhall article, that as usual, is just pick and choose data type of articles, where they loselly base some part of talk on facts and other they just hope people will not bother to look in (first they link number 400 to a data that they hope people not looking and then they do not link the 1500 to NO data as then they would look... well.. what they are.)
https://townhall.com/columnists/lizcrokin/2017/02/25/why-the-msm-is-ignoring-trumps-sex-trafficking-busts-n2290379
tegelik report mida loos kasutavad: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/additional-reports/human-trafficking-report/human-trafficking.pdf
https://townhall.com/columnists/lizcrokin/2017/02/25/why-the-msm-is-ignoring-trumps-sex-trafficking-busts-n2290379
tegelik report mida loos kasutavad: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/additional-reports/human-trafficking-report/human-trafficking.pdf
27 February 2017 18:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Põlisrahva hävitusrelvast; Joodikutest on siiber juba ammu.
Mehisust on puudu, et keegi julgeks Riigil pudeli ja koni käest haarata.
Eks millegagi peaks kaineks ehmatama...
Või, et moslemeid, huvitav.
Millist moslemijõudu Suunda Eestis enim karta on ?
Millised jõud ja miks on selle riigi sihikule võtnud ?
Mehisust on puudu, et keegi julgeks Riigil pudeli ja koni käest haarata.
Eks millegagi peaks kaineks ehmatama...
Või, et moslemeid, huvitav.
Millist moslemijõudu Suunda Eestis enim karta on ?
Millised jõud ja miks on selle riigi sihikule võtnud ?
27 February 2017 09:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" The vast majority of Muslims profess an Islam completely different from DAESH. It is called traditional. The main difference from the Salafi “pure” Islam that traditional Islam is much more complex, richer and deeper. It includes a complex philosophical interpretation, theological nuances, deep attention to the spiritual world of man. Traditional Islam is difficult as any full and inclusive spiritual tradition. And it certainly has the height and the lowlands, examples of spiritual greatness – because Ibn al-Arabi, al-Suhrawardi, Ibn Sina, or Rumi, but there are many examples of cruelty, brutality and wickedness. And the majority of Muslims living in traditional Islam, are themselves between these two extremes: if they stand on the spiritual path, then move to the higher models. If you prefer to be content with little, then firmly hold the traditions and customs of their ancestors. And it’s not enough. And only then, when they move away from religion, from its spirit and its guidelines, they stand on the path of perversion, innovation and pure lawlessness.
In Russia, until the last few decades, traditional Islam, not only prevailed, but it was the only one. Salafism also has been delivered to us recently and as part of the West’s geopolitical strategy for loosening inside Russia. However, just as liberalism: despite all the differences is one of our kind. Where one is, there is more. Therefore, almost all of Russia’s Muslims followed by the spiritual tradition. Someone with great success who are less successful. Moreover, in contrast to the pure Islam, Arab, Eurasian radical Islam is most prevalent among the Turkic peoples, following in the tradition of Genghis Khan, for whom respect for all religions was absolute law. Hard conquering half the world cut whole nations, but the priest of any denomination are always spared and supported. Therefore, when the khans of the Golden Horde to Islam, they were not subjected to the Christians who were in their power, repression and provided full freedom of religion. When the situation changed, and the Muslims were under the authority of the Orthodox Empire, Christians responded in kind – giving full right to practice their religion without any restrictions. The Legacy of Genghis Khan worked in both directions.
So it must be, and continue: imported provocative psevdoislama in Russia should not be at all, and traditional Islam should be respected and supported.
All the best! You’ve seen “Directive Dugin” about Muslims and their holiday.
So, congratulations to all the traditional Muslims on their holiday! Those who remain faithful to the precepts of their ancestors and to preserve traditions, that in the end, and will be the winner.
See archive transmission – http://tsargrad.tv/
In Russia, until the last few decades, traditional Islam, not only prevailed, but it was the only one. Salafism also has been delivered to us recently and as part of the West’s geopolitical strategy for loosening inside Russia. However, just as liberalism: despite all the differences is one of our kind. Where one is, there is more. Therefore, almost all of Russia’s Muslims followed by the spiritual tradition. Someone with great success who are less successful. Moreover, in contrast to the pure Islam, Arab, Eurasian radical Islam is most prevalent among the Turkic peoples, following in the tradition of Genghis Khan, for whom respect for all religions was absolute law. Hard conquering half the world cut whole nations, but the priest of any denomination are always spared and supported. Therefore, when the khans of the Golden Horde to Islam, they were not subjected to the Christians who were in their power, repression and provided full freedom of religion. When the situation changed, and the Muslims were under the authority of the Orthodox Empire, Christians responded in kind – giving full right to practice their religion without any restrictions. The Legacy of Genghis Khan worked in both directions.
So it must be, and continue: imported provocative psevdoislama in Russia should not be at all, and traditional Islam should be respected and supported.
All the best! You’ve seen “Directive Dugin” about Muslims and their holiday.
So, congratulations to all the traditional Muslims on their holiday! Those who remain faithful to the precepts of their ancestors and to preserve traditions, that in the end, and will be the winner.
See archive transmission – http://tsargrad.tv/
27 February 2017 08:57
Margus Meigo commented on Sergei Dolgov's post.
Fantastico world
27 February 2017 08:18
Margus Meigo commented on Külli Korol's post.
Päris suur (tänapäeva mõttes) ja asjalik lugemine muidu, ega ma meelga norigi.
Muidugi see lause "Et me lapse geene muuta ei saa, ..."
sellepeale tänapäeva liberaalid juba näpu püsti tõstaksid, et nad ikka ju proovivad ja töö käib selles osas juba ammu ja aina edukamalt..
et elusal inimesel juba proovida muuda seda mis tal sees. Rääkimata lapsest mis sündimises.
Kuid jah, taolisi kirjatükke ja uudiseid on vaja riiklikult, tugevalt ... osta ära need reklaami putkad ja siis teadliku kampaaniat teha neis ise, koos linkidega eri keskondadesse kust edasi vaadata.
Sõnastus peaks ka karmim olema, ausalt väljendades mis sorti inimesega tegu on kui nendest asjadest aru ei taha saada ja mis saab juhtuda, ja mis on juhtunud, sest ei saadud aru. Lisaks veel paar tumedamat tuleviku tsenaariumi kõrvuti elementaarse õnnestumise piltidega, kui inimesed jäävad normaalseks ja hoolima hakkavad sellest kes nad on.
Eestis on piisavalt tarke, saaksime kogu maailma harida ja ennast kõikides keeltes ja kultuurides selle tehnoloogiaga mis meil on, selleasemel aga mängitakse sellega arvutimänge ja vaadataske meele_/_lahutust.. ja seda veel siis kui suht keskmiselt hästi on, otse kurjadest asjadest ei hakka rääkimagi.
Youtube ise on sellist pervertsust täis ja peale paari hea video vaatamist surub sulle juba sellist kraami peale, et ei sobi mainidagi.
Muidugi see lause "Et me lapse geene muuta ei saa, ..."
sellepeale tänapäeva liberaalid juba näpu püsti tõstaksid, et nad ikka ju proovivad ja töö käib selles osas juba ammu ja aina edukamalt..
et elusal inimesel juba proovida muuda seda mis tal sees. Rääkimata lapsest mis sündimises.
Kuid jah, taolisi kirjatükke ja uudiseid on vaja riiklikult, tugevalt ... osta ära need reklaami putkad ja siis teadliku kampaaniat teha neis ise, koos linkidega eri keskondadesse kust edasi vaadata.
Sõnastus peaks ka karmim olema, ausalt väljendades mis sorti inimesega tegu on kui nendest asjadest aru ei taha saada ja mis saab juhtuda, ja mis on juhtunud, sest ei saadud aru. Lisaks veel paar tumedamat tuleviku tsenaariumi kõrvuti elementaarse õnnestumise piltidega, kui inimesed jäävad normaalseks ja hoolima hakkavad sellest kes nad on.
Eestis on piisavalt tarke, saaksime kogu maailma harida ja ennast kõikides keeltes ja kultuurides selle tehnoloogiaga mis meil on, selleasemel aga mängitakse sellega arvutimänge ja vaadataske meele_/_lahutust.. ja seda veel siis kui suht keskmiselt hästi on, otse kurjadest asjadest ei hakka rääkimagi.
Youtube ise on sellist pervertsust täis ja peale paari hea video vaatamist surub sulle juba sellist kraami peale, et ei sobi mainidagi.
27 February 2017 07:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
suts paljuks vist läks, kuid nu ju on see mis tuli ja on
27 February 2017 07:43
Margus Meigo commented on Külli Korol's post.
eks see asi ole palju tõsisem kui mugavus, kuid kes selle viisnurga tagajärgi siin julgeb ja oskab tervemõistuslikult kõlavalt ja otse selgelt arusaadavalt välja öelda. Mure on ikka palju tõsisem kui mugavalt kõlav mugavus. Mugavus kõlab nagu inimesel nii hästi läheks, et mugav ja hea olla ja siis unustab maised mured ära.
Kui öelda kommunism, siis kõlab liiga poliitiliselt ja arusaamatuna, vajab palju selgitustööd mõistmaks mis moodi siis ameerika viisnurk nagu samamoodi ei toimi...
ja kui öelda, et vaimne-alaareng, siis kõlaks nagu solvanguna jälle.
Kui öelda, et hingetud, siis kõlab liiga lootusetult ja usupuudulikud liialt religiooselt, võta näpust mis siis see õige sõna oleks... aga mugavus, kõlab liialt mugavalt.. see ei pane isegi muretsema, hea mugav mõelda, et meil olukord nii hea, et näe mugavaks läks..
kuid riiklikult peaks pidevalt tõsiselt sõna võtma ja viimaseid resursse kulutama, samausinasti ja ähmis olekus nagu "Toompead rünnatakse"
... kuid meil siin rünne ammu juba pea läbi, varemetest nüüd osad pea tõstma hakkavad ja siis märkama hakkavad, et selliste inimestega küll tulevikuni ei jõua nii, et keegi palkmaja ja rahvariideid veel teha mõistaks mõnesaja aasta pärast, mõjuvas suuruses.
Ja kui kauaks siis veel need sood ja metsatki siia jääävad, mnii mõnegi projekti jaoks need tulevikus ebapraktilisena tunduda võivad, ...emraatide elendude tarvis suur maandumisplatsi vaja või mine tea mis muud praktilist mõnel pähe tuleb et "ajaga kaasas" käia, arusaaamatu ,et aeg ei käi kuskil mujal kui meie ümber.. läheb ja tuleb jälle tagasi, kui ise kohal püsime ja oma asja ajame...
kuid ega EU õnsa viisnurga ringi all ei teagi, kas omi asju olla enam on eeskirjakohane, ...kuid seni kuni on, peaksime rauda soojana hoidma kuni veel saame ning kõike head odava tehnoloogiaga salvestama üle maakera eri varakambritesse, et meist mingigi lugu jääks kestma juhuks kui meil siin järsku laul ära lõpetatakse, suures info mahus sellest,et mingid põlisrahvad kes peaaegu riigiks said ära kadusid, vast mõned korrad viisakuse pärast räägitakse, kuid mis sa vanast uudisest palju ikka räägid.
Kui öelda kommunism, siis kõlab liiga poliitiliselt ja arusaamatuna, vajab palju selgitustööd mõistmaks mis moodi siis ameerika viisnurk nagu samamoodi ei toimi...
ja kui öelda, et vaimne-alaareng, siis kõlaks nagu solvanguna jälle.
Kui öelda, et hingetud, siis kõlab liiga lootusetult ja usupuudulikud liialt religiooselt, võta näpust mis siis see õige sõna oleks... aga mugavus, kõlab liialt mugavalt.. see ei pane isegi muretsema, hea mugav mõelda, et meil olukord nii hea, et näe mugavaks läks..
kuid riiklikult peaks pidevalt tõsiselt sõna võtma ja viimaseid resursse kulutama, samausinasti ja ähmis olekus nagu "Toompead rünnatakse"
... kuid meil siin rünne ammu juba pea läbi, varemetest nüüd osad pea tõstma hakkavad ja siis märkama hakkavad, et selliste inimestega küll tulevikuni ei jõua nii, et keegi palkmaja ja rahvariideid veel teha mõistaks mõnesaja aasta pärast, mõjuvas suuruses.
Ja kui kauaks siis veel need sood ja metsatki siia jääävad, mnii mõnegi projekti jaoks need tulevikus ebapraktilisena tunduda võivad, ...emraatide elendude tarvis suur maandumisplatsi vaja või mine tea mis muud praktilist mõnel pähe tuleb et "ajaga kaasas" käia, arusaaamatu ,et aeg ei käi kuskil mujal kui meie ümber.. läheb ja tuleb jälle tagasi, kui ise kohal püsime ja oma asja ajame...
kuid ega EU õnsa viisnurga ringi all ei teagi, kas omi asju olla enam on eeskirjakohane, ...kuid seni kuni on, peaksime rauda soojana hoidma kuni veel saame ning kõike head odava tehnoloogiaga salvestama üle maakera eri varakambritesse, et meist mingigi lugu jääks kestma juhuks kui meil siin järsku laul ära lõpetatakse, suures info mahus sellest,et mingid põlisrahvad kes peaaegu riigiks said ära kadusid, vast mõned korrad viisakuse pärast räägitakse, kuid mis sa vanast uudisest palju ikka räägid.
27 February 2017 07:33
Margus Meigo commented on Sergei Dolgov's post.
Who do You think the 5'th kolonn is serving?
27 February 2017 06:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
mõtlesin sellest raamatust digi koopia teha, kui sovi siis motiveerige mind, siis teen ära ka27 February 2017 06:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
kuigi tõepoolest, midagi lõbustust küll ära lootma hakka, vanad eestlased sääl all selliseid nalju räägivad, et narutuju kauaks kaob ära, kuid kui südamesoov on jumalalähedane siis julgelt ikka edasi, mõte ikka peab ka olema, et miks siis soovid. Igavus ja "tahaks proovida" pole enamasti mõistlikumad põhjused. Ikka soovi korda saada, head teha, õppida ja lähemale saada sellele kes oleme ja miks oleme, et saaksid paremini teha mida vaja27 February 2017 06:40
Margus Meigo commented on Raul Hunt's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Need siberi shamaanid selles raamatus ka päris karmid, panid ühe kommunistist mendi koos peldikuga põlema kui see oma veendumustest ei soovinud taganeda.
Üldiselt raamat päris hästi selgitab kuidas põlisrahvaid alkoholiga tapeti.. seda tasuta kurgust alla kallates kui vaja.
Päris shamaanid ikka päris shamaani taimi kasutavad millest tolku, kuid mitmed uue aja shamaanid rohkem niisama karglevad ringi värvilistes riietes ja laovad igast pulgakestest skeeme maapinnale mida moodi keegi palverännakut tegema peab,
Eks muidugi siis neil endil lihtsam, vähem vastutust ja ega nad ise julgekski neid rohte võtta, mina tea millisele endas olevale kratile silma vaatama peab eksju..
meil eestis kommunistid suutnud inimestele nii edukalt arusaama pähe panna, et punane kärbseseen nagu olekski kaudselt mürgiseen või muidu ebaoluline tegelane, kuigi meie mandri ülks olulisemaid taimi mis meil siin kasvab. Ja veel maru maitsev ka, kui asja ära ei riku igast keetmiste ja põletamistega... otse võiga pannile ja...
Parim moodus saunas kiirkuivatus teha ja siis krõbista neid 10aastat kui soovid. maitsvad igaljuhul, olgugi, et peale nädalast söömist juba keha ise annab märku, kui vaja pausi pidada.
Ma pigem soovitan inimestele hooletut sene söömist kui ohtu, et nad üldse ilma jäävad ja kuhu eluga muidu jõuavad..27 February 2017 06:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
kuid eks päris tark inimene enam vist nendel teemadel ei räägi vaid tegutseb ainult, kuid kui kuskil on kohad kus räägitakse, siis ma ka heameelega endasse laeks neid arusaame, et kui suurt lootust meil siin see maa puhtaks saada on27 February 2017 06:22
Margus Meigo commented on Camilla Sandra's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
ise ikka eeldan, et kui selle saatana kurdile saadad, siis kiusab mis ta kiusab, põhimõtte pärast jba kiusab ja kõik kraanid kinni keerab mis ta võimuses, kuid ega ta sulle enamasti päris hästi ligi saa kui ise veendunult arusaad, et vana jumalaga mestis oled ja tal pole asja sinu varasemat naiivsust sinu vastu kasutada.
Muidugi kui ei ole sõpru-tuttvaid-parnerit.. siis üksi kembelda on ikka päris päris raske, vast korralikud metsarohud aitavad sinu enda tarkusi tõsta sedasi, et vabam olla saaksid. Kuid ma iial ei alahindaks neid jõude, samas ka ei tasu kunagi allaanda ja lootusetult mölutama hakata viisnurga ees27 February 2017 05:54
Margus Meigo commented on Camilla Sandra's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Eks läbi patuse seksi ka.. kuid noh, eks see ole verega sügavasti seotud.
Kui ikka kolli seemne endasse lubad, ei sellest suurt sügavamt muud ole, sest see juba täis allumine
Ju kui vere teadlikult annad siis vabandus neil olemas legaalselt, et ise teadvustasid..
kuid hakkasin mõtlema, et ju siin ka see vere andmine arstide juures mis vene ajal massiline oli... ju siin ikka mingid asjad seotud on..27 February 2017 05:51
Margus Meigo replied to Kiira Kiirkivi's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
kuid see muidugi on kolli trikk, nad veenavad, et müüsid, aga mis pole nende oma pole neil õigus ka omada ja müüa, ise annad ennast võõrvõimu käsutusse, umbes nagu eest iveendi,et olete nüüd N liit..
aga ega see ei tähenda, et siis kõik nii käituma peavad.. ja küll need illusioonid lagunevad.. mitte, et see nii lihtne alati oleks. et mõnel saadakse sügavamalt ka sisse, ja kui traditsioonilisi kaitsmeid ei julgeta ka endale peale panna.. siis jah.. mitme tule vahel27 February 2017 05:48
Margus Meigo replied to Kiira Kiirkivi's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
See laulu salm oli lihtsalt 5+27 February 2017 05:46
Margus Meigo replied to Kiira Kiirkivi's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
ise kohtunud metsatüdrukutega, kes rääkisid, et nii sai tehtud, et ta muidu imeilus tegelane on.. aga no andis kolmtilka verd ja kogu mäng..27 February 2017 05:46
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Vaher's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
ma elasin ka ühel saarel, kus muidu inimesi peeti kohalike pättideks ja tobudeks, kuid neil oli see tarkus, et pilti ei tohi teha sest muidu osa hinge sinna külge jääb27 February 2017 05:45
Margus Meigo commented on Raul Hunt's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
karma ei tähenda mingit tagajärge ega asjade eest kinni maksmist aasia mõistes, vaid see on lihtsalt asjade juhtumine. Elu kulgemine. Mitte mingi kaalu kauss, et asjad paigas ja võrdsed oleks, sest ilmselgelt nad ei ole paigas ega võrdsed, kuiiganes kõvas illusioonis eldada proovime27 February 2017 05:43
Margus Meigo replied to Metsküla Kalju's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
kah, veel "parem", et ju see nõrgem kes peksa sai ise oli süüdi ja teenitud palk, selline filosoofia ajab kurjusel lausa kõvaks ja seda satanistid ja vabamüürlased ka keedavad nende õigustusi lugedes.
Perevägivallas tappa saanud laps, aaa ise on süüdi
Naisele peksa? Nu ju tal eelmisest elust minig võlg
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selle asemel, et aksepteerida, et kurjus on kurjus ja ebaausust on terve maailm täis., vahest saab kuri oma palga, kuid kui me seda kollektiivselt ise ei aita neil saada, siis jääb see enemasti ka saamata.
Ja palgasaamine tähendab ka, et takistad kurja levikud, selle sündi, selle juurdumist... sest ega kurjas inimene ise mingi suur meistel pole, ta on lihtsalt käsiline, üks paljudest kombitsatest kes hypnoosis käib ja elu reostab, teeb oma nö tööd27 February 2017 05:42
Margus Meigo replied to Karl-Adolf Aasamäe's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
enamastoi nõrgemale peksa andmise reaction, on see et nõrgem muutub kas veel nõrgemaks või teeb südame külmaks ja muutub tugevamaks.
Kuid enamasti nõrgemate kallal norijad teavad, et muru muutub aina madalamaks mida rohkem selle peal tallata, ei ole reaktsiooni, et sellel hakkavad tammed kasvama27 February 2017 05:39
Margus Meigo replied to Hr Linn's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
kuisee karma asi nii toimuks,siis jõhkardid, psühopaatid ja pätid ei jooksutaks ühiskonda vaid head vanaemad kes õunu kasvatavad ja noored seeni uurivad teadlased...
kuid neil viimasel kahel üldse hea, kui hingata lubatakse..27 February 2017 05:37
Margus Meigo replied to Hr Linn's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
aga tegelikult see, on puhas nõrgema lohutus ja lootus, et "kunagi saad kellegi käest võibolla.."
ei nad pruugi saada ja aina ülbemaks minevad põkid, seda enamasti ka tõestavad, et nii on olnud.27 February 2017 05:36
Margus Meigo commented on Kadunud Aeg's post.
seal see tsik lasi üle pohimoteliselt oli point vist v.
aga siis koju läks kelle juurde.. see päris pere oli v..
aga siis koju läks kelle juurde.. see päris pere oli v..
27 February 2017 05:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"For almost half a century, the academic line on Vikings has been that our old idea of them as raping, pillaging bastards who’d sack a monastery as soon as look at it was a childishly transparent bit of propaganda, perpetuated by Christian monks who were obviously biased against the pagan Northmen. As a recent Cambridge conference put it, ‘Vikings shared technology, swapped ideas and often lived side-by-side in relative harmony with their Anglo-Saxon and Celtic contemporaries.’ So much for the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle.
An admiring editorial in the Guardian duly observed of the Vikings that ‘Men wore stylish baggy trousers and jewellery, as well as spending a lot of time on their hair. And according to Hillary Clinton, no less, Viking society gave women considerable freedom to trade and participate in political and religious life. Before long, the Vikings lived side by side with the people they invaded, leaving many of us with our own inner Viking. There’s a lesson there.’
Well, an impressive new exhibition that’s coming to the British Museum next year, Viking, now in Copenhagen, presents a different take on the Vikings than the revisionist notion of them as proto-feminists and early multiculturalists. They were, as we first thought, violent bastards. In contrast to recent exhibitions which have focused on their (perfectly real) record as city founders, brilliant seafarers and traders with an interest in good governance, the exhibits return us to the traditional image of pillagers, raiders and aggressive colonisers: the artefacts are hard to square with them as peaceful farmers with an interest in travel.
The longboat on display is a weapon of war, and the alarming swords, spears, battleaxes and lozenge-shaped arrows tell their own story. As do the iron slave-collars from Dublin. One observer suggested that the Lewis chessmen in the exhibition biting on their shields recall their reputation for bloodlust. Because, you know, even in a violent age — and monastic chroniclers were perfectly used to violence — the Vikings’ cruelty and joy in battle put them in a class of their own."
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The flip answer would be that liberals, including scholars, are so captivated by modern Scandinavians, from the women detectives right through to the welfare, that it seems like an error of taste to bring up dirt from the ninth century. A more serious approach is suggested by Professor Stefan Brink in his introduction to The Viking World, a compilation of the best contemporary scholarship on the period: ‘Every era uses history for its own purposes; every time shapes its own history. And especially during periods of strong political hegemony… it has been common to… sanction the politics you pursue. The focus on the warrior Viking in Nazi Germany is an obvious example. In post-war Europe, battered and tired of war, it was more welcome and natural to focus on the peaceful side of the Vikings, as traders.’
One scholar who has made it his business to cut through revisionist cant is David Dumville, professor of history and palaeography at the University of Aberdeen. He puts the fashion for cuddly Vikings squarely down to ‘Swedish war guilt about not participating in the war and American political correctness’. Half a century ago, he says, no one would have said all this; the fashion started with a 1962 book by Peter Sawyer, The Age of the Vikings. But the problem is that the Vikings-as-peaceful-traders approach has now been academic orthodoxy for two generations and its proponents are still getting grants as cutting-edge revisionists. ‘We’re being invited to forget vast amounts of things rather than investigate radically serious new options,’ he says.
For a saner approach, he suggests ‘the simple thing is to go back to the chronicles which were on the whole contemporary records and see the extraordinary similarity between what was happening in different contexts and continents. I don’t think there’s any way round what the contemporary sources are saying.’ Admittedly, later accounts were downright lurid. ‘Babies on spearpoints were later propaganda from the 13th century,’ he says. ‘Overwhelmingly the most colourful accounts came from that point. But among contemporaries, no one was in any doubt that Vikings were bad news.’
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2013/08/sorry-the-vikings-really-were-that-bad/
An admiring editorial in the Guardian duly observed of the Vikings that ‘Men wore stylish baggy trousers and jewellery, as well as spending a lot of time on their hair. And according to Hillary Clinton, no less, Viking society gave women considerable freedom to trade and participate in political and religious life. Before long, the Vikings lived side by side with the people they invaded, leaving many of us with our own inner Viking. There’s a lesson there.’
Well, an impressive new exhibition that’s coming to the British Museum next year, Viking, now in Copenhagen, presents a different take on the Vikings than the revisionist notion of them as proto-feminists and early multiculturalists. They were, as we first thought, violent bastards. In contrast to recent exhibitions which have focused on their (perfectly real) record as city founders, brilliant seafarers and traders with an interest in good governance, the exhibits return us to the traditional image of pillagers, raiders and aggressive colonisers: the artefacts are hard to square with them as peaceful farmers with an interest in travel.
The longboat on display is a weapon of war, and the alarming swords, spears, battleaxes and lozenge-shaped arrows tell their own story. As do the iron slave-collars from Dublin. One observer suggested that the Lewis chessmen in the exhibition biting on their shields recall their reputation for bloodlust. Because, you know, even in a violent age — and monastic chroniclers were perfectly used to violence — the Vikings’ cruelty and joy in battle put them in a class of their own."
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The flip answer would be that liberals, including scholars, are so captivated by modern Scandinavians, from the women detectives right through to the welfare, that it seems like an error of taste to bring up dirt from the ninth century. A more serious approach is suggested by Professor Stefan Brink in his introduction to The Viking World, a compilation of the best contemporary scholarship on the period: ‘Every era uses history for its own purposes; every time shapes its own history. And especially during periods of strong political hegemony… it has been common to… sanction the politics you pursue. The focus on the warrior Viking in Nazi Germany is an obvious example. In post-war Europe, battered and tired of war, it was more welcome and natural to focus on the peaceful side of the Vikings, as traders.’
One scholar who has made it his business to cut through revisionist cant is David Dumville, professor of history and palaeography at the University of Aberdeen. He puts the fashion for cuddly Vikings squarely down to ‘Swedish war guilt about not participating in the war and American political correctness’. Half a century ago, he says, no one would have said all this; the fashion started with a 1962 book by Peter Sawyer, The Age of the Vikings. But the problem is that the Vikings-as-peaceful-traders approach has now been academic orthodoxy for two generations and its proponents are still getting grants as cutting-edge revisionists. ‘We’re being invited to forget vast amounts of things rather than investigate radically serious new options,’ he says.
For a saner approach, he suggests ‘the simple thing is to go back to the chronicles which were on the whole contemporary records and see the extraordinary similarity between what was happening in different contexts and continents. I don’t think there’s any way round what the contemporary sources are saying.’ Admittedly, later accounts were downright lurid. ‘Babies on spearpoints were later propaganda from the 13th century,’ he says. ‘Overwhelmingly the most colourful accounts came from that point. But among contemporaries, no one was in any doubt that Vikings were bad news.’
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2013/08/sorry-the-vikings-really-were-that-bad/
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2013/08/sorry-the-vikings-really-were-that-bad/
27 February 2017 04:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
wile long time ago original Esotnians had mastered independent living then some babrbars come and they needed others to feed them .. and it is lasting up to now.
27 February 2017 04:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Other researchers praise the team’s integration of details into a fuller picture of Vendel and Viking society. “It is now clear that we cannot fully understand the Vikings without taking into account slave hunting and slave trade,” Oxford’s Jankowiak said. “The ‘business model’ of the Baltic Vikings appears to have depended on it.”
The team also will tackle the disturbing issue of sexual slavery. There are hints of polygyny in Germanic cultures from this time, though researchers aren’t sure of its extent in Viking society or in the Vendel era. But if it were prevalent, Price speculates, poorer men would have been eager to seek wives outside Scandinavia. Researchers hope to understand more by pulling together DNA and other data to determine relations and origins among Viking dead.
The argument that Vikings set out to capture women gets tantalizing support from recent genetic studies of living people in Iceland, which has not experienced a significant migration since the Vikings settled it more than a thousand years ago. About three-�quarters of male Icelandic settlers hailed from what is today Norway, although well over half of the women were from the British Isles, according to genetic studies of today’s Icelanders. That suggests that Viking men partnered with British women on a massive scale. “We must be talking about some degree of coercion,” Price said. His team will emphasize examining the remains of Viking women—long understudied—to understand their origins.
The team also will tackle the disturbing issue of sexual slavery. There are hints of polygyny in Germanic cultures from this time, though researchers aren’t sure of its extent in Viking society or in the Vendel era. But if it were prevalent, Price speculates, poorer men would have been eager to seek wives outside Scandinavia. Researchers hope to understand more by pulling together DNA and other data to determine relations and origins among Viking dead.
The argument that Vikings set out to capture women gets tantalizing support from recent genetic studies of living people in Iceland, which has not experienced a significant migration since the Vikings settled it more than a thousand years ago. About three-�quarters of male Icelandic settlers hailed from what is today Norway, although well over half of the women were from the British Isles, according to genetic studies of today’s Icelanders. That suggests that Viking men partnered with British women on a massive scale. “We must be talking about some degree of coercion,” Price said. His team will emphasize examining the remains of Viking women—long understudied—to understand their origins.
27 February 2017 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Historical sources make it clear that the “Vikings were taking, transporting, and selling slaves,” Raffield said in his talk. He estimates that slaves comprised as much as 25% of Scandinavia’s population. Norse sagas mention slaves—“thralls” in Old Norse—who were often given pejorative names like Stinky, Stumpy, and Stupid. But compelling archaeological evidence has been elusive. Iron manacles and collars hint at slavery, but might have been used for prisoners or dogs. Raffield plans to search for evidence of special vessels designed to carry captives.
Other archaeologists have found tantalizing hints of slavery in existing remains. About one in 25 male Viking burials in Sweden and Norway includes teeth incised with deep grooves. The marks were long thought to indicate a warrior class, but at least some of these men were decapitated and placed in a burial with another man, said Anna �Kjellström of Stockholm University, who is also part of the project. “You can make a strong argument that these were special slaves who were ritually killed” upon the death of their master, she said in her talk. “The slaves may have been in front of us all the time.” The team plans extensive isotopic analysis to discover whether the victims were local or recent, perhaps involuntary, arrivals.
The research program also will analyze changes in Viking society as shown by land use. For example, by the 10th century, architectural clues to slavery become clear. At a site outside Stockholm near today’s Ikea, a small round hut dug into the ground sits on a slope above a large manor house. The hut appears to have been the living quarters for slaves at the height of Viking prosperity, said Charlotte Hedenstierna-Jonson of Stockholm University. At another Swedish site, Sanda, a large house is surrounded by much smaller structures, possible slave quarters. “It’s not going too far to see these as the big house on a plantation,” Price said.
Other archaeologists have found tantalizing hints of slavery in existing remains. About one in 25 male Viking burials in Sweden and Norway includes teeth incised with deep grooves. The marks were long thought to indicate a warrior class, but at least some of these men were decapitated and placed in a burial with another man, said Anna �Kjellström of Stockholm University, who is also part of the project. “You can make a strong argument that these were special slaves who were ritually killed” upon the death of their master, she said in her talk. “The slaves may have been in front of us all the time.” The team plans extensive isotopic analysis to discover whether the victims were local or recent, perhaps involuntary, arrivals.
The research program also will analyze changes in Viking society as shown by land use. For example, by the 10th century, architectural clues to slavery become clear. At a site outside Stockholm near today’s Ikea, a small round hut dug into the ground sits on a slope above a large manor house. The hut appears to have been the living quarters for slaves at the height of Viking prosperity, said Charlotte Hedenstierna-Jonson of Stockholm University. At another Swedish site, Sanda, a large house is surrounded by much smaller structures, possible slave quarters. “It’s not going too far to see these as the big house on a plantation,” Price said.
27 February 2017 04:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"A ceremonial ship burial in Estonia is decades older than the supposed first Viking raid, in 793 C.E."
"On 8 June 793 C.E., a band of foreign warriors attacked the Christian monastery of Lindisfarne on the English coast, wrecking the church, killing the monks, and making off with all the treasure their ships could hold. This brutal attack has long been thought to mark the start of Viking aggression. But archaeo�logist Neil Price of Sweden’s Uppsala University suspects that the roots of the Viking era go back long before this raid."
"But although previous scholars identified the raids as the start of the Viking era, Price stresses that their way of life began long before. In the Vendel period from about �550 C.E. to 790 C.E., Scandinavians exported iron and furs and developed impressive seafaring skills. And between 2008 and 2012, researchers discovered two ship burials on the edge of the Baltic Sea in Estonia, 250 kilo�meters from the Swedish coast. The burials are “the most significant Viking discovery of the last hundred years,” Price says—and they apparently predate the Lindisfarne raid by nearly a century, according to dating by radio�carbon and artifact styles.
Doubled-edged swords like this one from an Estonian ship burial show that Scandinavians far from their homeland fought fiercely before the accepted start of the Viking era.
Doubled-edged swords like this one from an Estonian ship burial show that Scandinavians far from their homeland fought fiercely before the accepted start of the Viking era.
LIINA MALDRE
Found on the island of Saaremaa in the town of Salme, the two war boats served as graves for 40 men. In one, 33 men were stacked atop one another and covered with wooden shields. Elite soldiers were buried with elaborately decorated double-edged swords, and a man who appeared to be the chieftain clasped a sword with a jeweled hilt and held a gaming piece made of walrus ivory in his mouth.
Working with Estonian collaborators, “we plan to throw massive science” at these ancient vessels to glean everything possible about this period, Price said. He’ll also focus on some spectacular ship burials at Valsgärde, just outside of Uppsala, dated from the sixth century to the 11th century. The area includes 60 tombs, including those of women, and hundreds of artifacts yet to be carefully analyzed."
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/04/vikings-may-have-first-taken-seas-find-women-slaves
"On 8 June 793 C.E., a band of foreign warriors attacked the Christian monastery of Lindisfarne on the English coast, wrecking the church, killing the monks, and making off with all the treasure their ships could hold. This brutal attack has long been thought to mark the start of Viking aggression. But archaeo�logist Neil Price of Sweden’s Uppsala University suspects that the roots of the Viking era go back long before this raid."
"But although previous scholars identified the raids as the start of the Viking era, Price stresses that their way of life began long before. In the Vendel period from about �550 C.E. to 790 C.E., Scandinavians exported iron and furs and developed impressive seafaring skills. And between 2008 and 2012, researchers discovered two ship burials on the edge of the Baltic Sea in Estonia, 250 kilo�meters from the Swedish coast. The burials are “the most significant Viking discovery of the last hundred years,” Price says—and they apparently predate the Lindisfarne raid by nearly a century, according to dating by radio�carbon and artifact styles.
Doubled-edged swords like this one from an Estonian ship burial show that Scandinavians far from their homeland fought fiercely before the accepted start of the Viking era.
Doubled-edged swords like this one from an Estonian ship burial show that Scandinavians far from their homeland fought fiercely before the accepted start of the Viking era.
LIINA MALDRE
Found on the island of Saaremaa in the town of Salme, the two war boats served as graves for 40 men. In one, 33 men were stacked atop one another and covered with wooden shields. Elite soldiers were buried with elaborately decorated double-edged swords, and a man who appeared to be the chieftain clasped a sword with a jeweled hilt and held a gaming piece made of walrus ivory in his mouth.
Working with Estonian collaborators, “we plan to throw massive science” at these ancient vessels to glean everything possible about this period, Price said. He’ll also focus on some spectacular ship burials at Valsgärde, just outside of Uppsala, dated from the sixth century to the 11th century. The area includes 60 tombs, including those of women, and hundreds of artifacts yet to be carefully analyzed."
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/04/vikings-may-have-first-taken-seas-find-women-slaves
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/04/vikings-may-have-first-taken-seas-find-women-slaves
27 February 2017 04:32
Margus Meigo commented on Looking for a soulmate. Vallalised. Tutvused. Kohtingud.'s post.
Vot ei tea kust me neid küll leiame..
27 February 2017 04:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but main point is that if one does not have platform to proejct the idea, then it will stay..
27 February 2017 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
what ever happened to hher anyway
27 February 2017 00:57
Margus Meigo commented on Gustavo Eduardo Enrico's post.
as something what she told long time ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp3NOKSjJZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp3NOKSjJZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp3NOKSjJZ0
27 February 2017 00:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and myths so
http://soulhealer.com/ramas-bridge-ancient-mythology/
http://soulhealer.com/ramas-bridge-ancient-mythology/
27 February 2017 00:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ta selle kandi aktivist:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biafra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biafra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biafra
27 February 2017 00:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Et kui nii kauge kultuuri tagant sellist kriitikat tuleb, siis ikka siin vaja tõsist kultuuri reformi teha...
Enam kuslkile langeda siit vist pole
Enam kuslkile langeda siit vist pole
26 February 2017 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Üks teine samamaaline kellega rääkisin, teadis muidu öelda, kohalik kes siin elab, et muidu maal pole väga viga aga mis ta nõrgaks teeb, on täielik naiste suunaline austuse puudumine (Eestlastelt) ja, et oma kultuuri ja keelt ei osata hoida ega kaitsta (N. mehe sõnad siis).
Et tal töökohapeal venekeelt nõutakse aga Eestikeele nõuat ei ole, et telame väga arusaamatu.
Et tal töökohapeal venekeelt nõutakse aga Eestikeele nõuat ei ole, et telame väga arusaamatu.
26 February 2017 23:58
Margus Meigo commented on Aire Kruberg's album.
Poistel rõõme jagub : )
26 February 2017 22:13
Margus Meigo commented on Tara Bell's post.
Easy
26 February 2017 22:09
Margus Meigo replied to Marco Käblik's comment.
kuid õnneks Jumal mängib ausalt, nüüd pannakse ta nende moslmeitega ehk ühte vanglasse, siis tehakse tast kohe kukupai
26 February 2017 21:47
Margus Meigo replied to Marco Käblik's comment.
ku itegu oleks eks moslemiga olnud kes ise aru sai oma asjast ja nüüd jumala heaks seda teeb, siis vast veel, aga sedasi ... kah mul tegu
Kas venelased peaksid, eesti lipu põletajatele ka auhindu andma hakkama v?
Kas venelased peaksid, eesti lipu põletajatele ka auhindu andma hakkama v?
26 February 2017 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to Marco Käblik's comment.
võid eestis 10 koraani põletada, keegi midagi ei tee, ennast ainult tobuks
26 February 2017 21:45
Margus Meigo replied to Marco Käblik's comment.
mille eest see imbi medalit väärib??
26 February 2017 21:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nu eks need lapsevanemad oskavad ainult sellistel asjadel ohtlikust näha, sellessse süübida mida need "tavalised" mängid teevad ja millest need koosnevad, kes need koos tas ja milleks... ja kuidas ikkagi suures plaanis tulevikus need ajud meestel milliseks keerab ja millised lapselt neilt tulevad...
seda elementaarset asja ei suvatse enamus mõeldagi oma töö kõrvalt, Tunduks liiga teoreetiline, müstiline, sügav liialt ja .. ah.. ega mu laps niisama mängib neid asju ilma vajaduseta, ega ta hullu tee... ongi rahulikult vaikselt oma toas vähemlat... eks?
seda elementaarset asja ei suvatse enamus mõeldagi oma töö kõrvalt, Tunduks liiga teoreetiline, müstiline, sügav liialt ja .. ah.. ega mu laps niisama mängib neid asju ilma vajaduseta, ega ta hullu tee... ongi rahulikult vaikselt oma toas vähemlat... eks?
26 February 2017 19:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(actually i mean the normal creator, Should eliminate what is bad so good can have life)
26 February 2017 02:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but i am hippy a bit and to soft on these issues, maybe should ask from some conservative
26 February 2017 02:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
unfortunatelly they not think them self as equals but see normal people as someone that should be eliminated
26 February 2017 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
really?
Normal parents should eliminate kids that are not good for creation.
This is the reason we got issues that we got in here, that we allow anti-humans non human beings in human skin to spread as equals.
Normal parents should eliminate kids that are not good for creation.
This is the reason we got issues that we got in here, that we allow anti-humans non human beings in human skin to spread as equals.
26 February 2017 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on Maarja Hiiekivi's post.
Raske valik kumbasi oma maale enne sooviksid,
Mina eelistaks esimesega rääkida.
Mina eelistaks esimesega rääkida.
26 February 2017 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on Maarja Hiiekivi's post.
suht häbilugu mitmeti, et siis ameerikat peab selline naine esindama, kogu austuse naisele, kuid se tema taust ja isegi keele oskus ja muud oskused..
26 February 2017 02:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
selgitasin neile korralikult, et komunistid teevad seda, et annavad neile hüvesi aga kohalikele mitte, et neid ajada kultuuriga tülli ja tekitada viha,
et sedasi neid kasutatakse ära suurvõimude poolt. Ärgu võtku isiklikult kui kohalikud tigedad onsest see on suur ülekohus mida läbi nende meile tehakse.
Tegelane sai täitsa asjast aru, ehk jagab oma sõpradele ka
et sedasi neid kasutatakse ära suurvõimude poolt. Ärgu võtku isiklikult kui kohalikud tigedad onsest see on suur ülekohus mida läbi nende meile tehakse.
Tegelane sai täitsa asjast aru, ehk jagab oma sõpradele ka
26 February 2017 02:14
Margus Meigo commented on Maarja Hiiekivi's post.
mul pole elamist juba 5 aastat ega ühtegi toetust, seda kohalikele neegrile rääkisin, läksid neil silmad punni
26 February 2017 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see ei oleks suur ülekohus kui sellise asja eest keegi tema põlema oleks pannud.
26 February 2017 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
keegi ei tule sind arreteerima kui sa vaikselt oma kodus ahju küttad
kuid kui meelega sellist lollustteha, nagu need lippude põletamised, nu sellistele peaks topelt andma.
sest mis ta selega siis saavutada soovis, et areneb edasimingisuguse arusaama poole sedasi v?
kuid kui meelega sellist lollustteha, nagu need lippude põletamised, nu sellistele peaks topelt andma.
sest mis ta selega siis saavutada soovis, et areneb edasimingisuguse arusaama poole sedasi v?
26 February 2017 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on Maarja Hiiekivi's post.
õige ka kohtu alla minna kes meelega selliseid asju provokatsiooniks teeb.
Kusjuures raha põletamine on ka , veelgi suuremini ju karistatav olgugi, et see palju arulagedam. Kuigi jah, teisipidi arusaades, kuna raha ei ole kunagi MEIE oma siis see on võõra vara hävitamine mis meile laenuks ja kasutuseks on antud.
Koraane jms meelega kellegi hullude närviajamiseks põletada, jah, ravile vaja saata. Kas tal puid vähe oli mida põletada v
Kusjuures raha põletamine on ka , veelgi suuremini ju karistatav olgugi, et see palju arulagedam. Kuigi jah, teisipidi arusaades, kuna raha ei ole kunagi MEIE oma siis see on võõra vara hävitamine mis meile laenuks ja kasutuseks on antud.
Koraane jms meelega kellegi hullude närviajamiseks põletada, jah, ravile vaja saata. Kas tal puid vähe oli mida põletada v
26 February 2017 02:06
Margus Meigo commented on Maarja Hiiekivi's post.
kas telegram teab millise võimu meelevallas ta oma info ja uudistega on
26 February 2017 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on Maarja Hiiekivi's post.
jeerum, kui nad enamuste mängude sisust ja mõttest aru saaks, siis võtaksid nad riigilt voolu välja.
Aga kahjuks tundub see liiga esoteeriline ja filosoofiline, miks mängud tehtud ja kuidas nad toimivad..
Aga kahjuks tundub see liiga esoteeriline ja filosoofiline, miks mängud tehtud ja kuidas nad toimivad..
26 February 2017 01:49
Margus Meigo replied to Maarja Hiiekivi's comment.
yes! Mõne vist veel kannatab
26 February 2017 01:47
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Prits's comment.
tegelikult tõmbab küll jah aga kuna ta nagunii saab tühjaks siis mõtlesin, et parem sedapidi.. et aus investeering
26 February 2017 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
Looks like dick jeany brother
26 February 2017 01:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"if you merry becouse of love, it is a joke, this relatioship is over"
26 February 2017 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" To outsiders, unaccustomed to the Besht's teachings, Hasidic prayer services sometimes seemed undignified, even chaotic. In fulfillment of the Psalmist's ecstatic declaration, "All my bones shall say, Lord, who is like You?" (Psalms 35:10), worshipers were capable of performing handstands. Characteristically, the Besht defended such practices at Hasidic services with a story. A deaf man passed by a hall where a wedding reception was being celebrated. When he looked through the window, he saw people engaged in exultant and tumultuous dancing. But because he could not hear the music, he assumed they were mad.
The Besht also taught that the Tzaddik (the religious leader of the Hasidim) should serve as a model of how to lead a religious life. However, he did not emphasize the doctrine of the Tzaddik nearly as much as some of his successors, particularly Dov Baer of Mezrich, who made it central to Hasidism. Dov Baer, the leader of the Hasidim after the Baal Shem Tov's death, taught that God revealed Himself through the Tzaddik's most trivial actions; one of Dov Baer's followers said, "I didn't go to him to learn Torah, but to see him unbuckle his shoes." Dov Baer taught that the ideal Tzaddik had a closer relationship to God than the average Jew, and could bestow blessings on people. In return, it was understood that the Hasidim must bring their Tzaddik gifts.
The belief in the power and greatness of the Tzaddik became one of Hasidism's strongest-and most controversial-ideas. Hasidism's opponents charged that the Tzaddikim (plural) often enriched themselves at the expense of their followers. In the generation after Dov Baer, numerous new Hasidic groups were formed, each with its own Tzaddik, referred to as a rebbe. These rebbes became a kind of Jewish royalty. When one died, he was succeeded by either his son or soninlaw. Those Hasidic groups that established eminent family dynasties became successful. Many Hasidic groups, however, went into decline when their rebbe died and left behind less capable successors.
The best known group of Hasidim in the United States are the Lubavitcher, who are headquartered in Brooklyn. Their current rebbe is Menachem Mendel Schneersohn, the seventh leader since the movement was founded in the late 1700s. But though Lubavitch is the one Hasidic group nonOrthodox Jews are most apt to meet-because of the movement's various outreach programs-there are dozens of other Hasidic dynasties in the United States (many of them located in Brooklyn) and in Israel.
In their early years, the Hasidim were actively persecuted by the Mitnagdim, who feared they would become another heretical sect, similar to that of Shabbetai Zevi. But in its formative stages, Hasidism wisely put its primary emphasis on personal religious growth rather than on national salvation, and it downplayed the messianic element. This was not enough, however, to appease the Mitnagdim. Other Hasidic traits, such as their laissezfaire attitude toward the appropriate hours for prayer, bitterly provoked their opponents. The Hasidim answered that they couldn't legislate precise hours for reciting each of the three daily prayer services; they prayed with such intensity (kavannah) that they couldn't do so while looking at a watch.
The Israeli historian Jacob Katz has documented how other practices provocatively separated the Hasidim from their neighbors. For example, Hasidim advocated using a sharper knife when slaughtering animals than the one used by the Mitnagdim's slaughterers. Such stringency had a socially divisive effect: The Hasidim no longer could eat at the Mitnagdim's houses. The Hasidim also adopted a different prayerbook, so that their synagogue service differed somewhat from that of other Jews and had to be conducted separately. Their most brilliant act of "public relations" was labeling themselves Hasidim, the Hebrew word for both "pious" and "saintly," while calling their adversaries Mitnagdim, Hebrew for "opponents." These terms made the Hasidim seem like the more dynamic and positive of the two groups.
With the passage of time, the Hasidim and Mitnagdim recognized that their differences were increasingly inconsequential, particularly after both groups found themselves facing a common enemy: the nineteenth century Haskala, or Jewish Enlightenment. Jewish parents who once feared that their Hasidic or Mitnagdish child might go over to the other camp, were now far more afraid that their child might become altogether irreligious.
An additional factor that lessened the HasidicMitnagdish split was nineteenth and twentieth century Hasidism's increasing emphasis on Talmud study. As the movement expanded, it put less emphasis on meditation and communing with God, and more on traditional Jewish learning. As a result, Hasidim today are no longer regarded as revolutionaries; in fact, they are the conservative stalwarts of Orthodox Judaism, easily recognized by the eighteenth and nineteenth century black coats and hats worn by most of their male adherents.
Nonetheless, the Hasidic approach to Judaism significantly differs from that of the Mitnagdim. Hasidism generally places a much greater stress on simcha shel mitzvah — the joy of performing a commandment.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/hasidim-and-mitnagdim
The Besht also taught that the Tzaddik (the religious leader of the Hasidim) should serve as a model of how to lead a religious life. However, he did not emphasize the doctrine of the Tzaddik nearly as much as some of his successors, particularly Dov Baer of Mezrich, who made it central to Hasidism. Dov Baer, the leader of the Hasidim after the Baal Shem Tov's death, taught that God revealed Himself through the Tzaddik's most trivial actions; one of Dov Baer's followers said, "I didn't go to him to learn Torah, but to see him unbuckle his shoes." Dov Baer taught that the ideal Tzaddik had a closer relationship to God than the average Jew, and could bestow blessings on people. In return, it was understood that the Hasidim must bring their Tzaddik gifts.
The belief in the power and greatness of the Tzaddik became one of Hasidism's strongest-and most controversial-ideas. Hasidism's opponents charged that the Tzaddikim (plural) often enriched themselves at the expense of their followers. In the generation after Dov Baer, numerous new Hasidic groups were formed, each with its own Tzaddik, referred to as a rebbe. These rebbes became a kind of Jewish royalty. When one died, he was succeeded by either his son or soninlaw. Those Hasidic groups that established eminent family dynasties became successful. Many Hasidic groups, however, went into decline when their rebbe died and left behind less capable successors.
The best known group of Hasidim in the United States are the Lubavitcher, who are headquartered in Brooklyn. Their current rebbe is Menachem Mendel Schneersohn, the seventh leader since the movement was founded in the late 1700s. But though Lubavitch is the one Hasidic group nonOrthodox Jews are most apt to meet-because of the movement's various outreach programs-there are dozens of other Hasidic dynasties in the United States (many of them located in Brooklyn) and in Israel.
In their early years, the Hasidim were actively persecuted by the Mitnagdim, who feared they would become another heretical sect, similar to that of Shabbetai Zevi. But in its formative stages, Hasidism wisely put its primary emphasis on personal religious growth rather than on national salvation, and it downplayed the messianic element. This was not enough, however, to appease the Mitnagdim. Other Hasidic traits, such as their laissezfaire attitude toward the appropriate hours for prayer, bitterly provoked their opponents. The Hasidim answered that they couldn't legislate precise hours for reciting each of the three daily prayer services; they prayed with such intensity (kavannah) that they couldn't do so while looking at a watch.
The Israeli historian Jacob Katz has documented how other practices provocatively separated the Hasidim from their neighbors. For example, Hasidim advocated using a sharper knife when slaughtering animals than the one used by the Mitnagdim's slaughterers. Such stringency had a socially divisive effect: The Hasidim no longer could eat at the Mitnagdim's houses. The Hasidim also adopted a different prayerbook, so that their synagogue service differed somewhat from that of other Jews and had to be conducted separately. Their most brilliant act of "public relations" was labeling themselves Hasidim, the Hebrew word for both "pious" and "saintly," while calling their adversaries Mitnagdim, Hebrew for "opponents." These terms made the Hasidim seem like the more dynamic and positive of the two groups.
With the passage of time, the Hasidim and Mitnagdim recognized that their differences were increasingly inconsequential, particularly after both groups found themselves facing a common enemy: the nineteenth century Haskala, or Jewish Enlightenment. Jewish parents who once feared that their Hasidic or Mitnagdish child might go over to the other camp, were now far more afraid that their child might become altogether irreligious.
An additional factor that lessened the HasidicMitnagdish split was nineteenth and twentieth century Hasidism's increasing emphasis on Talmud study. As the movement expanded, it put less emphasis on meditation and communing with God, and more on traditional Jewish learning. As a result, Hasidim today are no longer regarded as revolutionaries; in fact, they are the conservative stalwarts of Orthodox Judaism, easily recognized by the eighteenth and nineteenth century black coats and hats worn by most of their male adherents.
Nonetheless, the Hasidic approach to Judaism significantly differs from that of the Mitnagdim. Hasidism generally places a much greater stress on simcha shel mitzvah — the joy of performing a commandment.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/hasidim-and-mitnagdim
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/hasidim-and-mitnagdim
26 February 2017 01:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"" Although contemporary Jews often use the word "Hasid" as a synonym for ultra-Orthodox, Hasidism, a religious movement that arose in eighteenth century Eastern Europe, was originally regarded as revolutionary and religiously liberal. Its opponents, known as Mitnagdim, were themselves Orthodox Jews. More than any thing else, the stories that each group told about its rabbinic leaders exemplify the differences among them. The Mitnagdim were proud of the fact that their leader, the Vilna Gaon, had delivered an advanced discourse on the Talmud when he was only seven years old, and that he studied Jewish texts eighteen hours a day.
The founder of Hasidism, Israel Ba'al Shem Tov, was the hero of very different sorts of tales. The Hasidim told of how he spent his teenage years working in a job with low status, as assistant in a Jewish elementary school, a cheder. He would round up the students from their homes each morning and lead them to school singing songs. Later, after he married, he and his wife went to live in the faroff Carpathian Mountains. There, the Ba'al Shem Tov worked as a laborer, digging clay and lime, which his wife then sold in town. The couple later kept an inn.
During these years, the Ba'al Shem Tov spent much time in the nearby forest in meditation and solitude. His Hasidic followers subsequently likened this period to the years of isolation and meditation that Moses spent in Midian, tending the flocks of his fatherinlaw.
Around 1736, the Ba'al Shem Tov revealed himself as a healer and a leader. His last name, which literally means "Master of the Good Name," was one that was frequently applied in Jewish life to miracle workers and healers. In 1740, he moved to Meziboz, a town near the borders of both Poland and the Ukraine, and not far from Lithuania. Disciples started coming to him from the surrounding countries, but the talks delivered by the Ba'al Shem Tov differed dramatically from lectures offered at a yeshiva; they focused far more on an individual's personal relationship with God and with his fellowman than on the intricacies of Jewish law. The stories Hasidim later told about the Ba'al Shem Tov — usually referred to by his acronym, the Besht — invariably depict him with a pipe in hand, telling seemingly secular tales with deep religious meanings. He died in 1760, leaving behind Dov Baer of Mezrich as his successor. Shortly before his death, the Besht told the people standing near his bed: "I grieve not at my death, for I can see a door opening while the other is closing."
Many of the dominant themes in the Besht's teachings became the central emphases in the Hasidic movement that his followers developed. There were statements of the Besht, not entirely innovative, which placed great stress on aspects of Judaism that the Mitnagdim generally ignored: the heart, for example. The Besht was particularly fond of a talmudic statement, "God desires the heart" (Sanhedrin 106b), which he interpreted as meaning that for God, a pure religious spirit mattered more than knowledge of the Talmud. It is told of the Besht that one Yom Kippur a poor Jewish boy, an illiterate shepherd, entered the synagogue where he was praying. The boy was deeply moved by the service, but frustrated that he could not read the prayers. He started to whistle, the one thing he knew he could do beautifully; he wanted to offer his whistling as a gift to God. The congregation was horrified at the desecration of their service. Some people yelled at the boy, and others wanted to throw him out. The Ba'al Shem Tov immediately stopped them. "Until now," he said, "I could feel our prayers being blocked as they tried to reach the heavenly court. This young shepherd's whistling was so pure, however, that it broke through the blockage and brought all of our prayers straight up to God."
Another ancient Jewish doctrine that was given particular emphasis by the Ba'al Shem Tov was based on a verse in Isaiah: "The whole world is full of His glory" (6:13). If the whole world is full of God's glory, the Besht reasoned, then the Mitnagdim and the ascetics were wrong in thinking that one had to turn one's back on the pleasures of the world. "Don't deny that a girl is beautiful," the Besht would say. "Just be sure that your recognition of her beauty brings you back to its source-God." If one could do that, then even physical pleasures could bring about spiritual growth.
Because the world was full of God, the Besht believed that a person always should be joyful. Indeed, the greatest act of creativity comes about in an atmosphere of joy: "No child is born except through pleasure and joy," the Besht declared. "By the same token, if one wishes his prayers to bear fruit, he must offer them with pleasure and joy." This doctrine was a strong challenge to many ideas current among Jews in the Besht's time. Many religious Jews, particularly among the kabbalists, preached asceticism, and advocated that Jews fast every Monday and Thursday. The Ba'al Shem Tov warned people against such practices, fearing that they would lead to melancholy, not joy.
The founder of Hasidism, Israel Ba'al Shem Tov, was the hero of very different sorts of tales. The Hasidim told of how he spent his teenage years working in a job with low status, as assistant in a Jewish elementary school, a cheder. He would round up the students from their homes each morning and lead them to school singing songs. Later, after he married, he and his wife went to live in the faroff Carpathian Mountains. There, the Ba'al Shem Tov worked as a laborer, digging clay and lime, which his wife then sold in town. The couple later kept an inn.
During these years, the Ba'al Shem Tov spent much time in the nearby forest in meditation and solitude. His Hasidic followers subsequently likened this period to the years of isolation and meditation that Moses spent in Midian, tending the flocks of his fatherinlaw.
Around 1736, the Ba'al Shem Tov revealed himself as a healer and a leader. His last name, which literally means "Master of the Good Name," was one that was frequently applied in Jewish life to miracle workers and healers. In 1740, he moved to Meziboz, a town near the borders of both Poland and the Ukraine, and not far from Lithuania. Disciples started coming to him from the surrounding countries, but the talks delivered by the Ba'al Shem Tov differed dramatically from lectures offered at a yeshiva; they focused far more on an individual's personal relationship with God and with his fellowman than on the intricacies of Jewish law. The stories Hasidim later told about the Ba'al Shem Tov — usually referred to by his acronym, the Besht — invariably depict him with a pipe in hand, telling seemingly secular tales with deep religious meanings. He died in 1760, leaving behind Dov Baer of Mezrich as his successor. Shortly before his death, the Besht told the people standing near his bed: "I grieve not at my death, for I can see a door opening while the other is closing."
Many of the dominant themes in the Besht's teachings became the central emphases in the Hasidic movement that his followers developed. There were statements of the Besht, not entirely innovative, which placed great stress on aspects of Judaism that the Mitnagdim generally ignored: the heart, for example. The Besht was particularly fond of a talmudic statement, "God desires the heart" (Sanhedrin 106b), which he interpreted as meaning that for God, a pure religious spirit mattered more than knowledge of the Talmud. It is told of the Besht that one Yom Kippur a poor Jewish boy, an illiterate shepherd, entered the synagogue where he was praying. The boy was deeply moved by the service, but frustrated that he could not read the prayers. He started to whistle, the one thing he knew he could do beautifully; he wanted to offer his whistling as a gift to God. The congregation was horrified at the desecration of their service. Some people yelled at the boy, and others wanted to throw him out. The Ba'al Shem Tov immediately stopped them. "Until now," he said, "I could feel our prayers being blocked as they tried to reach the heavenly court. This young shepherd's whistling was so pure, however, that it broke through the blockage and brought all of our prayers straight up to God."
Another ancient Jewish doctrine that was given particular emphasis by the Ba'al Shem Tov was based on a verse in Isaiah: "The whole world is full of His glory" (6:13). If the whole world is full of God's glory, the Besht reasoned, then the Mitnagdim and the ascetics were wrong in thinking that one had to turn one's back on the pleasures of the world. "Don't deny that a girl is beautiful," the Besht would say. "Just be sure that your recognition of her beauty brings you back to its source-God." If one could do that, then even physical pleasures could bring about spiritual growth.
Because the world was full of God, the Besht believed that a person always should be joyful. Indeed, the greatest act of creativity comes about in an atmosphere of joy: "No child is born except through pleasure and joy," the Besht declared. "By the same token, if one wishes his prayers to bear fruit, he must offer them with pleasure and joy." This doctrine was a strong challenge to many ideas current among Jews in the Besht's time. Many religious Jews, particularly among the kabbalists, preached asceticism, and advocated that Jews fast every Monday and Thursday. The Ba'al Shem Tov warned people against such practices, fearing that they would lead to melancholy, not joy.
26 February 2017 01:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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The Hasidic movement started in the 1700's (CE) in Eastern Europe in response to a void felt by many average observant Jews of the day. The founder of Hasidism, Rabbi Israel Baal Shem Tov (referred to as the "Besht," an acronym of his name) was a great scholar and mystic, devoted to both the revealed, outer aspect, and hidden, inner aspect of Torah. He and his followers, without veering from a commitment to Torah, created a way of Jewish life that emphasized the ability of all Jews to grow closer to Gd via everything that we do, say, and think. In contrast to the somewhat intellectual style of the mainstream Jewish leaders of his day and their emphasis on the primacy of Torah study, the Besht emphasized a constant focus on attachment to Gd and Torah no matter what one is involved with.
Early on, a schism developed between the Hasidic and nonHasidic (i.e., Misnagdim, lit. "opponents") Jewish movements, primarily over real or imagined issues of halachic observance. The opposition was based on concern that the Hasidim were neglecting the laws regarding appropriate times for prayer, and perhaps concern about the exuberance of Hasidic worship, or a concern that it might be an offshoot of false messiahs Shabbtai Zvi or Jacob Frank. Within a generation or two, the rift was closed. Since then, many Hasidic practices have influenced the Misnagdim, while the Misnagdim, in turn, moderated some of the extremes of early Hasidism. Nevertheless, the dispute between particular groups of Hasidim and Misnagdim continues to this day, especially in Israel.
Today, Hasidim are differentiated from other Orthodox Jews by their devotion to a dynastic leader (referred to as a "Rebbe"), their wearing of distinctive clothing and a greater than average study of the inner aspects of Torah.
There are perhaps a dozen major Hasidic movements today, the largest of which (with perhaps 100,000 followers) is the Lubavitch group headquartered in Brooklyn, NY. Other groups include the Bobov, Bostoner, Belzer, Gerer, Satmar, Vizhnitz, Breslov, Puppa, Bianer, Munkacz, and Rimnitz. In Israel, the major Hasidic groups besides the Lubavitch include: Gor (Gerer), Viznitz and Bealz (Belzer).
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/hasidism
The Hasidic movement started in the 1700's (CE) in Eastern Europe in response to a void felt by many average observant Jews of the day. The founder of Hasidism, Rabbi Israel Baal Shem Tov (referred to as the "Besht," an acronym of his name) was a great scholar and mystic, devoted to both the revealed, outer aspect, and hidden, inner aspect of Torah. He and his followers, without veering from a commitment to Torah, created a way of Jewish life that emphasized the ability of all Jews to grow closer to Gd via everything that we do, say, and think. In contrast to the somewhat intellectual style of the mainstream Jewish leaders of his day and their emphasis on the primacy of Torah study, the Besht emphasized a constant focus on attachment to Gd and Torah no matter what one is involved with.
Early on, a schism developed between the Hasidic and nonHasidic (i.e., Misnagdim, lit. "opponents") Jewish movements, primarily over real or imagined issues of halachic observance. The opposition was based on concern that the Hasidim were neglecting the laws regarding appropriate times for prayer, and perhaps concern about the exuberance of Hasidic worship, or a concern that it might be an offshoot of false messiahs Shabbtai Zvi or Jacob Frank. Within a generation or two, the rift was closed. Since then, many Hasidic practices have influenced the Misnagdim, while the Misnagdim, in turn, moderated some of the extremes of early Hasidism. Nevertheless, the dispute between particular groups of Hasidim and Misnagdim continues to this day, especially in Israel.
Today, Hasidim are differentiated from other Orthodox Jews by their devotion to a dynastic leader (referred to as a "Rebbe"), their wearing of distinctive clothing and a greater than average study of the inner aspects of Torah.
There are perhaps a dozen major Hasidic movements today, the largest of which (with perhaps 100,000 followers) is the Lubavitch group headquartered in Brooklyn, NY. Other groups include the Bobov, Bostoner, Belzer, Gerer, Satmar, Vizhnitz, Breslov, Puppa, Bianer, Munkacz, and Rimnitz. In Israel, the major Hasidic groups besides the Lubavitch include: Gor (Gerer), Viznitz and Bealz (Belzer).
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/hasidism
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/hasidism
26 February 2017 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Today things are different and the same. There are not as many simple Jews, but there are plenty of very complicated ones."
26 February 2017 00:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"freedom of coiche is lovest level of creation, most unholy "
26 February 2017 00:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Normaalne Eestlane mõtleb samamoodi, Eestlasest
26 February 2017 00:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Philosophy
Chabad-Lubavitch is a philosophy, a movement, and an organization. It is considered to be the most dynamic force in Jewish life today.
Lubavitch appropriately means the “city of brotherly love”The word “Chabad” is a Hebrew acronym for the three intellectual faculties of chochmah—wisdom, binah—comprehension and da’at—knowledge. The movement’s system of Jewish religious philosophy, the deepest dimension of G‑d’s Torah, teaches understanding and recognition of the Creator, the role and purpose of creation, and the importance and unique mission of each creature. This philosophy guides a person to refine and govern his or her every act and feeling through wisdom, comprehension and knowledge.
The word “Lubavitch” is the name of the town in White Russia where the movement was based for more than a century. Appropriately, the word Lubavitch in Russian means the “city of brotherly love.” The name Lubavitch conveys the essence of the responsibility and love engendered by the Chabad philosophy toward every single Jew.
The Movement
Following its inception 250 years ago, the Chabad-Lubavitch movement—a branch of Hasidism—swept through Russia and spread in surrounding countries as well. It provided scholars with answers that eluded them, and simple farmers with a love that had been denied them. Eventually the philosophy of Chabad-Lubavitch and its adherents reached almost every corner of the world and affected almost every facet of Jewish life.
The Leadership
No person or detail was too small or insignificant for their love and dedicationThe movement is guided by the teachings of its seven leaders (“Rebbes”), beginning with Rabbi Schneur Zalman of Liadi of righteous memory (1745–1812). These leaders expounded upon the most refined and delicate aspects of Jewish mysticism, creating a corpus of study thousands of books strong. They personified the age-old Biblical qualities of piety and leadership. And they concerned themselves not only with Chabad-Lubavitch, but with the totality of Jewish life, spiritual and physical. No person or detail was too small or insignificant for their love and dedication.
In our generation, the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson of righteous memory (1902–1994), known simply as “the Rebbe,” guided post-holocaust Jewry to safety from the ravages of that devastation.
The Organization
The origins of today’s Chabad-Lubavitch organization can be traced to the early 1940s, when the sixth Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Yosef Yitzchak Schneersohn of righteous memory (1880–1950), appointed his son-in-law and later successor, Rabbi Menachem Mendel, to head the newly founded educational and social service arms of the movement.
Today over 4,500 full-time emissary families direct more than 3,500 institutions Motivated by his profound love for every Jew and spurred by his boundless optimism and self-sacrifice, the Rebbe set into motion a dazzling array of programs, services and institutions to serve every Jew.
Today over 4,500 full-time emissary families apply 250-year-old principles and philosophy to direct more than 3,500 institutions (and a workforce that numbers in the tens of thousands) dedicated to the welfare of the Jewish people worldwide.
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/36226/jewish/About-Chabad-Lubavitch.htm
Chabad-Lubavitch is a philosophy, a movement, and an organization. It is considered to be the most dynamic force in Jewish life today.
Lubavitch appropriately means the “city of brotherly love”The word “Chabad” is a Hebrew acronym for the three intellectual faculties of chochmah—wisdom, binah—comprehension and da’at—knowledge. The movement’s system of Jewish religious philosophy, the deepest dimension of G‑d’s Torah, teaches understanding and recognition of the Creator, the role and purpose of creation, and the importance and unique mission of each creature. This philosophy guides a person to refine and govern his or her every act and feeling through wisdom, comprehension and knowledge.
The word “Lubavitch” is the name of the town in White Russia where the movement was based for more than a century. Appropriately, the word Lubavitch in Russian means the “city of brotherly love.” The name Lubavitch conveys the essence of the responsibility and love engendered by the Chabad philosophy toward every single Jew.
The Movement
Following its inception 250 years ago, the Chabad-Lubavitch movement—a branch of Hasidism—swept through Russia and spread in surrounding countries as well. It provided scholars with answers that eluded them, and simple farmers with a love that had been denied them. Eventually the philosophy of Chabad-Lubavitch and its adherents reached almost every corner of the world and affected almost every facet of Jewish life.
The Leadership
No person or detail was too small or insignificant for their love and dedicationThe movement is guided by the teachings of its seven leaders (“Rebbes”), beginning with Rabbi Schneur Zalman of Liadi of righteous memory (1745–1812). These leaders expounded upon the most refined and delicate aspects of Jewish mysticism, creating a corpus of study thousands of books strong. They personified the age-old Biblical qualities of piety and leadership. And they concerned themselves not only with Chabad-Lubavitch, but with the totality of Jewish life, spiritual and physical. No person or detail was too small or insignificant for their love and dedication.
In our generation, the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson of righteous memory (1902–1994), known simply as “the Rebbe,” guided post-holocaust Jewry to safety from the ravages of that devastation.
The Organization
The origins of today’s Chabad-Lubavitch organization can be traced to the early 1940s, when the sixth Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Yosef Yitzchak Schneersohn of righteous memory (1880–1950), appointed his son-in-law and later successor, Rabbi Menachem Mendel, to head the newly founded educational and social service arms of the movement.
Today over 4,500 full-time emissary families direct more than 3,500 institutions Motivated by his profound love for every Jew and spurred by his boundless optimism and self-sacrifice, the Rebbe set into motion a dazzling array of programs, services and institutions to serve every Jew.
Today over 4,500 full-time emissary families apply 250-year-old principles and philosophy to direct more than 3,500 institutions (and a workforce that numbers in the tens of thousands) dedicated to the welfare of the Jewish people worldwide.
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/36226/jewish/About-Chabad-Lubavitch.htm
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/36226/jewish/About-Chabad-Lubavitch.htm
26 February 2017 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Chabad-Lubavitch is a major movement within mainstream Jewish tradition with its roots in the Chassidic movement of the 18th century. In Czarist and Communist Russia, the leaders of Chabad led the struggle for the survival of Torah Judaism, often facing imprisonment and relentless persecution for their activities. After the Holocaust, under the direction of Rabbi Yosef Yitzchaak Schneerson and his successor, Rabbi Menachem M. Schneerson, of righteous memory, Chabad became a worldwide movement, caring for the spiritual and material needs of all Jews, wherever they could be found.
Today, over 3,500 Chabad institutions are located in more than 85 countries, with a new center opening on the average every ten days. In South Africa, South America, Russia, Australia, the UK, and many parts of the USA, Chabad has become the most dynamic and dominant force within the Jewish community.
What is a Chabad House?
Chabad is influenced by the teaching of the Baal Shem Tov, a great Jew of 18th-century Eastern Europe who loved his people with an immeasurable passion. The calamities of his time had created a situation in which there were many simple Jews who had no learning and little knowledge, alongside great scholars who looked askance at the ignorance of these commoners. The Baal Shem Tov taught us to look deeper, beyond the knowledge of a person, beyond his outward behavior, into the depths of his heart, to find there the divine spark and reveal it with unconditional love.
Today things are different and the same. There are not as many simple Jews, but there are plenty of very complicated ones. Our Torah scholars cannot be compared to the scholars of those times, but the chasm remains, this fissure that sometimes lies between the Jews that rest on Shabbat and those who do not yet know its beauty, between those that cherish the wisdom of Torah and those who are looking elsewhere instead.
The approach of Chabad today mirrors that of the Baal Shem Tov in his time: Look past the outward person and trust in the soul deep inside. You may disapprove of everything he does, and his outlook on life may be the opposite of everything you believe. Don’t argue with him. Instead, be one with him. Unconditionally. You enjoy Shabbat--enjoy it with him. You find solace and counsel in the wisdom of Torah--talk to your holy brothers and sisters about that wisdom in their own language, on their own terms. And if he or she does not change one iota, that is irrelevant. You have done your job of love. Two Jews became one and that is all that matters.
A Chabad House, then, is a center established to facilitate all of the above. A Chabad House will generally host classes, lectures, and workshops on Jewish topics; religious services; Shabbat meals; and special events as needed in that community. Counseling services, the Friendship Circle for physically or mentally challenged children, and other volunteer services are common. Most often a Chabad House does not charge membership--if you are Jewish, you are a member. There are exceptions, according to the local situation.
The Jewish People, the Zohar tells, is the heart of all the nations. When there is love and oneness among us, peace and harmony enter the entire world. When our light is pure and focused, the darkness in their hearts is pushed away as well. And so this is the mandate of Chabad: To create light for the sake of light, just by doing good for the sake of doing good, until all the world is filled with the serene light of G‑dly wisdom “as the waters cover the ocean floor.”
What is Chassidism?
Just as a person is made up of both body and soul, so too the Torah we learn comprises both elements. There are the dos and the don'ts and the historical facts. And then there's the "inner Torah," a system of teachings passed down through the generations that penetrates to the core of reality, discussing the act of Creation, the soul, and how the soul can reconnect itself and its world back to its source.
People today are not satisfied with the do's and don'ts and historical facts. We need a deeper, often mystical understanding. Chabad is unique in that its teachers are trained from youth in the authentic texts of the inner Torah, also known as the Kabbalah and Chassidut.
Chabad thought builds on the wisdom of the great Jewish thinkers and is very much a part of classic Jewish thought. Rabbi Schneur Zalman of Liadi, founder of Chabad, was a deep thinker and intellectual, fascinated with all aspects of knowledge. He was a prime student and disciple of Rabbi Dov Ber of Mezritch, known as “the Magid of Mezritch,” heir to the Baal Shem Tov. He created a synthesis of Jewish rationalism and esoteric thought using the rich metaphor of the human psyche. His successors and their students continued in the same path, expanding Chabad to a broad and lively school of thought and debate. Chabad philosophy has influenced the thought of many great leaders and movements outside of Chabad as well.
When you leave a typical Chabad class, you don’t go away with just knowledge, you go away with a whole new way of knowing, a new pair of eyes. That’s one of the main reasons for Chabad’s popularity—Chabad teachers are able to provide meaningful answers to critical questions, because Chabad is all about how you use your mind.
The Baal Shem Tov taught, “G‑d wants the heart.” Chabad teaches that you can reach the heart through the mind—through questioning, through meditation and deep contemplation, and through reframing your concept of the world.
Is Chabad "Ultra-Orthodox?"
Chabad is referred to as an "Orthodox" Jewish movement because it adheres to Jewish practice and observance within the guidelines of Talmudic law and its codifiers. The prefix “ultra” is commonly used by media broadcasters, but it has no practical meaning. It is used to marginalize a group or to portray them as extremists battling with extremists of other religions.
Mother Theresa was never called “ultra-Catholic.” Albert Schweitzer was never “ultra-Calvinist.” Doctors Without Borders are not ultra-militant New-Agers. When a Chabad couple travel to a community, they are not interested in converts, in battles, or in brainwashing youth. They are only interested in sharing their Shabbat tables and the heritage that belongs to every Jew. A Chabad House is a “Jewish Center” and a Chabad rabbi is a rabbi, period.
If you hear Chabad described in the media as “ultra-Orthodox,” pick up the phone or fire off an email and complain. Tell them Chabad is a Jewish movement, without any labels, and they should describe it as such.
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/776104/jewish/FAQ.htm
Today, over 3,500 Chabad institutions are located in more than 85 countries, with a new center opening on the average every ten days. In South Africa, South America, Russia, Australia, the UK, and many parts of the USA, Chabad has become the most dynamic and dominant force within the Jewish community.
What is a Chabad House?
Chabad is influenced by the teaching of the Baal Shem Tov, a great Jew of 18th-century Eastern Europe who loved his people with an immeasurable passion. The calamities of his time had created a situation in which there were many simple Jews who had no learning and little knowledge, alongside great scholars who looked askance at the ignorance of these commoners. The Baal Shem Tov taught us to look deeper, beyond the knowledge of a person, beyond his outward behavior, into the depths of his heart, to find there the divine spark and reveal it with unconditional love.
Today things are different and the same. There are not as many simple Jews, but there are plenty of very complicated ones. Our Torah scholars cannot be compared to the scholars of those times, but the chasm remains, this fissure that sometimes lies between the Jews that rest on Shabbat and those who do not yet know its beauty, between those that cherish the wisdom of Torah and those who are looking elsewhere instead.
The approach of Chabad today mirrors that of the Baal Shem Tov in his time: Look past the outward person and trust in the soul deep inside. You may disapprove of everything he does, and his outlook on life may be the opposite of everything you believe. Don’t argue with him. Instead, be one with him. Unconditionally. You enjoy Shabbat--enjoy it with him. You find solace and counsel in the wisdom of Torah--talk to your holy brothers and sisters about that wisdom in their own language, on their own terms. And if he or she does not change one iota, that is irrelevant. You have done your job of love. Two Jews became one and that is all that matters.
A Chabad House, then, is a center established to facilitate all of the above. A Chabad House will generally host classes, lectures, and workshops on Jewish topics; religious services; Shabbat meals; and special events as needed in that community. Counseling services, the Friendship Circle for physically or mentally challenged children, and other volunteer services are common. Most often a Chabad House does not charge membership--if you are Jewish, you are a member. There are exceptions, according to the local situation.
The Jewish People, the Zohar tells, is the heart of all the nations. When there is love and oneness among us, peace and harmony enter the entire world. When our light is pure and focused, the darkness in their hearts is pushed away as well. And so this is the mandate of Chabad: To create light for the sake of light, just by doing good for the sake of doing good, until all the world is filled with the serene light of G‑dly wisdom “as the waters cover the ocean floor.”
What is Chassidism?
Just as a person is made up of both body and soul, so too the Torah we learn comprises both elements. There are the dos and the don'ts and the historical facts. And then there's the "inner Torah," a system of teachings passed down through the generations that penetrates to the core of reality, discussing the act of Creation, the soul, and how the soul can reconnect itself and its world back to its source.
People today are not satisfied with the do's and don'ts and historical facts. We need a deeper, often mystical understanding. Chabad is unique in that its teachers are trained from youth in the authentic texts of the inner Torah, also known as the Kabbalah and Chassidut.
Chabad thought builds on the wisdom of the great Jewish thinkers and is very much a part of classic Jewish thought. Rabbi Schneur Zalman of Liadi, founder of Chabad, was a deep thinker and intellectual, fascinated with all aspects of knowledge. He was a prime student and disciple of Rabbi Dov Ber of Mezritch, known as “the Magid of Mezritch,” heir to the Baal Shem Tov. He created a synthesis of Jewish rationalism and esoteric thought using the rich metaphor of the human psyche. His successors and their students continued in the same path, expanding Chabad to a broad and lively school of thought and debate. Chabad philosophy has influenced the thought of many great leaders and movements outside of Chabad as well.
When you leave a typical Chabad class, you don’t go away with just knowledge, you go away with a whole new way of knowing, a new pair of eyes. That’s one of the main reasons for Chabad’s popularity—Chabad teachers are able to provide meaningful answers to critical questions, because Chabad is all about how you use your mind.
The Baal Shem Tov taught, “G‑d wants the heart.” Chabad teaches that you can reach the heart through the mind—through questioning, through meditation and deep contemplation, and through reframing your concept of the world.
Is Chabad "Ultra-Orthodox?"
Chabad is referred to as an "Orthodox" Jewish movement because it adheres to Jewish practice and observance within the guidelines of Talmudic law and its codifiers. The prefix “ultra” is commonly used by media broadcasters, but it has no practical meaning. It is used to marginalize a group or to portray them as extremists battling with extremists of other religions.
Mother Theresa was never called “ultra-Catholic.” Albert Schweitzer was never “ultra-Calvinist.” Doctors Without Borders are not ultra-militant New-Agers. When a Chabad couple travel to a community, they are not interested in converts, in battles, or in brainwashing youth. They are only interested in sharing their Shabbat tables and the heritage that belongs to every Jew. A Chabad House is a “Jewish Center” and a Chabad rabbi is a rabbi, period.
If you hear Chabad described in the media as “ultra-Orthodox,” pick up the phone or fire off an email and complain. Tell them Chabad is a Jewish movement, without any labels, and they should describe it as such.
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/776104/jewish/FAQ.htm
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/776104/jewish/FAQ.htm
26 February 2017 00:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
what Yong people talk about in Jew world,
... giving You impression how well another level kids think and talk in this reality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET2wQDfOPDU
... giving You impression how well another level kids think and talk in this reality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET2wQDfOPDU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET2wQDfOPDU
26 February 2017 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
okey söön mõned õunad ka vahele kuid üldiselt väga raske pidama saada.
26 February 2017 00:25
Margus Meigo replied to Jüri Böhm's comment.
mu juutlus (33) saab varsti läbi, pean ikka enne Heebria tarkade juurde protokolle arutama minema, magan hea võimaluse maha muidu
26 February 2017 00:19
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's photo.
Se välimus on tuus!
Nagu eriväelane, jumalteab mis kõvad võtted vöö all ja mis teravad mõtted peas
Nagu eriväelane, jumalteab mis kõvad võtted vöö all ja mis teravad mõtted peas
25 February 2017 22:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but randy kind of guys are also really needed, unfortunatelly they not active enought to spear of the trickters
remeber when i was in Las vegas @ Pen and Teller show.. amazed how tall this guy is:D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99_upx8URLI
remeber when i was in Las vegas @ Pen and Teller show.. amazed how tall this guy is:D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99_upx8URLI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99_upx8URLI
25 February 2017 21:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
legend of "nothing Realy never happened"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDeh5t0LQrY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDeh5t0LQrY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDeh5t0LQrY
25 February 2017 21:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
why some real dada never ends up on him and only the easy targets.. and well.. looking the last Chinese guy i uderstand . but there is many other show offs ...how come no one ends up on this man radar .. we really need to make meetup's before he go and takes the legend
25 February 2017 21:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
well, and then there is randy :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MFAvH8m8aI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MFAvH8m8aI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MFAvH8m8aI
25 February 2017 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
these people really not like publicy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M294w4TwXI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M294w4TwXI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M294w4TwXI
25 February 2017 21:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ITzU55PzOs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ITzU55PzOs
25 February 2017 21:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIH3yv6ZfKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIH3yv6ZfKY
25 February 2017 21:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPFIb7Ag_VM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPFIb7Ag_VM
25 February 2017 21:04
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Naisepeksja on ta ikkagi,
seda tema hind aga ei julge oma suures avatuses rääkida, vähe sellest et keemiatööstuse lobitööline oli oma varasemas töös, jumal teab mis ravimeid pähemäärida inimestele aitas25 February 2017 19:41
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
või võtku õiet asja topelt
25 February 2017 19:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey or then again, explain me the ocian part again please . )
25 February 2017 04:59
Margus Meigo commented on Jan van der Bij's post.
every country should do something like that, but then again, in the end it will all boost hes ratings.
25 February 2017 04:57
Margus Meigo commented on Jan van der Bij's post.
fantastic, but they should have skip the mexico part (we made maxians to pay for it), on there they ower do it, as everything else is true, sounding.
i mean ,really, you did not right?
i mean ,really, you did not right?
25 February 2017 04:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Rome and Greese i bring usually up as example of humanaty downfall.
25 February 2017 01:41
Margus Meigo commented on Siret Olev's post.
Group: Tutvus
tänud24 February 2017 23:31
Margus Meigo commented on Pille Soopa's post.
Group: Tutvus
millist jutu?24 February 2017 23:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Alter Ed Native mostly they for my self, for future if they should come
but i have seen proper smart people walls, with good posts, and no likes, so i assume the issue is in some other places..
but yea, this is my public notebook i take it so
but i have seen proper smart people walls, with good posts, and no likes, so i assume the issue is in some other places..
but yea, this is my public notebook i take it so
24 February 2017 22:49
Margus Meigo commented on Janne Laik's photo.
oih... olerex..
24 February 2017 22:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siis tuli võõrpresidendi raha skandaali uudis.. ja OLIGI kogu uudis, ilmateade otsa...
fantast.. kella 9sed uudised, vikeraaadiost
fantast.. kella 9sed uudised, vikeraaadiost
24 February 2017 21:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja siis sinna otsa järgmiseks uudiseks türgi ja süüria ISISe udis.. nu anna minna..
24 February 2017 21:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
eelmise presidendi jutt katkestati sest oli vaja mingi kohaliku spordiklubi uudisest rääkida pikalt.
Selline punane haigus levib ja levitatakse..
Selline punane haigus levib ja levitatakse..
24 February 2017 21:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eks see väga ohtlik kommunistidele kui inimesed ise oma juuri uurivad ja DNA ga saab igast huvitavaid järeldusi teha.. ning arvuti viib uskumatud otsad kokku mida ei oska nad ise selgitada..
"Meil Eestis valitseb nüüd seoses uue andmekaitsedirektiiviga täielik vaikus. Sest vana direktiivi peeti juba põhjendamatult rangaks ja selle vastu protesteerisid just ajaloolased, kes väitsid, et nüüd on muutunud paljude dokumentidele juurdepääs pea võimatuks. Võib-olla nüüd ärkab ka Eesti Genealoogia Selts. "
EL Komisjon võib teha ettepaneku keelustada genealoogia seltsid või klubid, seoses uue andmekaitsedirektiiviga. Eriti on see praegu esile tõusnud Soomes, kus selle küsimuse on tõstatanud Marjo Matikainen-Kallströmiä Koonderakonnast ja tegi valitsusele ettepaneku see probleem lahendada. Kuna sugupuu uurimine pidi olema ELi uue isikuanmete range kaitsmisega ja uue andmekaitsedirektiiviga välistatud ning vastuolus. Seega võib Soomes lõppeda genealoogia ja perekonna ajaloo uurimine. Samuti leidas ka Soome Pereorganisatsioonide Keskliit hiljuti, et andekasitsedirektiiviga ette nähtud isikuandmete töötlemine on põhjendamatult range ja ähvardab lausa ühiskondades väljakujunenud ajalooliste ning genealoogiliste teaduste uurimist. "
Millal ärgatakse ja arusaadakse kui kõrget ja suurt mängu need rooma-greeka pederastia impeeriiumi kotkapeadest viisnurga kummardajad mängivad... kõik keskenduvad nagu lambakesed rahale.. samal ajal kui nad sul juuksed ja kodujuured pügavad... aga mis juba ära antud., seda tagasi võtta nii kerge ei ole
"Meil Eestis valitseb nüüd seoses uue andmekaitsedirektiiviga täielik vaikus. Sest vana direktiivi peeti juba põhjendamatult rangaks ja selle vastu protesteerisid just ajaloolased, kes väitsid, et nüüd on muutunud paljude dokumentidele juurdepääs pea võimatuks. Võib-olla nüüd ärkab ka Eesti Genealoogia Selts. "
EL Komisjon võib teha ettepaneku keelustada genealoogia seltsid või klubid, seoses uue andmekaitsedirektiiviga. Eriti on see praegu esile tõusnud Soomes, kus selle küsimuse on tõstatanud Marjo Matikainen-Kallströmiä Koonderakonnast ja tegi valitsusele ettepaneku see probleem lahendada. Kuna sugupuu uurimine pidi olema ELi uue isikuanmete range kaitsmisega ja uue andmekaitsedirektiiviga välistatud ning vastuolus. Seega võib Soomes lõppeda genealoogia ja perekonna ajaloo uurimine. Samuti leidas ka Soome Pereorganisatsioonide Keskliit hiljuti, et andekasitsedirektiiviga ette nähtud isikuandmete töötlemine on põhjendamatult range ja ähvardab lausa ühiskondades väljakujunenud ajalooliste ning genealoogiliste teaduste uurimist. "
Millal ärgatakse ja arusaadakse kui kõrget ja suurt mängu need rooma-greeka pederastia impeeriiumi kotkapeadest viisnurga kummardajad mängivad... kõik keskenduvad nagu lambakesed rahale.. samal ajal kui nad sul juuksed ja kodujuured pügavad... aga mis juba ära antud., seda tagasi võtta nii kerge ei ole
24 February 2017 16:57
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
ju ta selline on jah kui hullumajas demokraatia kehtestada
24 February 2017 16:49
Margus Meigo replied to Hr Viktor's comment.
Group: Kohtutäiturite ülemvõim.
mul ühtegi last küll ei ole, kahjuks
(nu praegust olukorda vaadates muidugi kellel sellist isa vaja oleks..)24 February 2017 16:43
Margus Meigo replied to Hr Viktor's comment.
Group: Kohtutäiturite ülemvõim.
Kirjad:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24827474/viilpuu2.pdf
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24827474/viilpuu1.pdf
Mul on väga raske enda meelestustes kokku võtta ja kirjutada midagi praktilise maailma jaoks arusaadavat kuid matemaatiliselt ju peaks asjad lihtsalt nähtavad olema.
Mul oli veel võimalus kogu palk hoopis muud moodi täies mahus kätte saada kuid usaldasin, et ju see miinimumiga saab ka elatud ja võlg saabki kiiremi kaelast ära, vot ja nüüd augus uuesti ja veel suuremas kui eeldasin sest arvestasin ette, et need asjad jäävad.
Nu jah, ega ma otseselt ei virise kuid mõtlesin, kas mul üldse on võimalust siin kobiseda ja midagi paremaks teha24 February 2017 16:42
Margus Meigo replied to Hr Viktor's comment.
Group: Kohtutäiturite ülemvõim.
võiks riigi huvides ju olla emailile mingi teavitus dokumentki saata mille kättesaamist kontrollitakse, kus elementaarne kirjas mida karta tuleb ja mida tegema peaks
nagu nõrgemat arvestades, ..mitte hiljem tullakse mingi "HAHAAA, aaaaga kas sa Seda trikki teatsid (et mingi paberi kuskil mingiks ajaks pead tegema x templiga)? Ei teadnud.. nu to jama sulle sis..meie võit! ..."24 February 2017 16:30
Margus Meigo replied to Hr Viktor's comment.
Group: Kohtutäiturite ülemvõim.
üle 5 aasta lõpuks ometi sain töö peale mis oleks mitu aastat kestnud ja kes teab veel mis edasi ja keerasid mul nad selle vussi, sest tööandja ütles, et sellist asja nende org. pole varem olnud et ähvarduskirjad tulevad ja see ei sobi ka kokku prestiisiga nu ja arusaadav nende poolt.
Ja siis räägivad, et nad ei näe mis mu pangakontodel toimub, aga 100% ju kui peaks raha tulema ükskõik mis kontole nad selle saavad ju kätte kohe (ja kuna mujalt neile raha tulnud pole siis pole ju ka liikumist olnud mujal), ja arvestasid miinimumi ja siis järsku ei arvestata.
mis see eletusnõude jama siis mul tähendabki, et..
(minu seisukoht on just mu enda asjakohta kasutades teiste samade probleemide lahenduseks, et laiemalt mõeldes, vanurite, veel suuremate häiretega inimesed, puuetega inimesed jms. )24 February 2017 16:28
Margus Meigo replied to Hr Viktor's comment.
Group: Kohtutäiturite ülemvõim.
mis see elatusnõude asi tähendab ?24 February 2017 16:22
Margus Meigo replied to Hr Viktor's comment.
Group: Kohtutäiturite ülemvõim.
ja siis viimane jutuajamine peale mida ma veel edasi raskelt haige olin, nüüd alles hakkan taastuma
http://vocaroo.com/i/s148aLzmcbjz
Kuid seda, et mul ei ole võimalik minna panka väljavõtet võtma, ja swedpank kelles ei ole mul olnud toimetusi ammusest, ei anna kasutaja tunnust mulle üle neti, et ise seda teha saaks..http://vocaroo.com/i/s148aLzmcbjz
24 February 2017 16:22
Margus Meigo replied to Hr Viktor's comment.
Group: Kohtutäiturite ülemvõim.
Markeriks võta see koht kus on viimane 470,
03.01.2017
ja siis esimene kord teavitasin, et mul vale kanne tekkis, raha väljavõtmiseks saadetud raha saadeti tagasi mu kontole ja siis selle andsid nad tagasi, ja siis peale seda hakkas jama pihta. lisaks siis järgmise ku palk selle kuu lõpus seal kanti kuna tööleping lõpetati ja kuna see uue uu palk pidi olema siis see oleks pidanud ka putumatu olema (26.01.2017) kuid nad sellest enne kontole tulekut juba rohkem välja nõudsid tööandjalt kui miinimum ja siis ülejäägi ka omakorda võtsid.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24827474/EE913300335311760005%20Arvelduskonto%20EUR%2001.02.2016-24.02.2017%20ShortPdf_-704256993.pdf24 February 2017 16:18
Margus Meigo replied to Hr Viktor's comment.
Group: Kohtutäiturite ülemvõim.
nu seda ma proovisin selgitada jah neile kuid nad ütlesid, et osa maksab ainult ja seda ka siis kui mul veab, et nad pole kohustatud sest ma 3 päeva jooksul ei teavitanud uuesti neid sellest, et nad uuesti miinimumi ära võtsid24 February 2017 16:13
Margus Meigo replied to Hr Viktor's comment.
Group: Kohtutäiturite ülemvõim.
kuid see selline haruldane asi, seotud nagu suurema pildiga, et kuna teistelt ka sedasi võetakse, siis õiguse eesmärgitaha pugedes, saan asja sutsu aetud, seni kuni see mingit muudatust toob või teamdist juurde24 February 2017 15:49
Margus Meigo replied to Hr Viktor's comment.
Group: Kohtutäiturite ülemvõim.
ma oma töö eest, isegi palka ei saa küsida,
ma seda sorti inimene et kes teeb töö ara ja kui palka ei taheta anda siis mul sisetunne ei luba seda nõuda, jube nüri värk24 February 2017 15:49
Margus Meigo replied to Hr Viktor's comment.
Group: Kohtutäiturite ülemvõim.
kui Sul on mingi kindel emaili koht, kui kunagi ennast kokku võtan mingitel hetketel õiges olukorras vahest suudan keskenduda sellele, kuid jah,
ühesõnaga ei ole siis sedasi, et suva neile.. ma võin väljavõtte koppida siia korra..24 February 2017 15:48
Margus Meigo replied to Hr Viktor's comment.
Group: Kohtutäiturite ülemvõim.
mul on keskendumis häire, ma ei suuda mitte millegile rahaga seotule keskenduda, ei oska seda seletada, aga iiveldus tuleb kurku kui rahaasjadega tegelema pean, isegi kui see mõne enda asja müümine on netis mis kerge raha oleks.
Jube keeruline see teema mu jaoks, see raha teema.
Inimestel igasugused foobiad ämblikute jms, mul on rahaga sedasi.24 February 2017 15:46
Margus Meigo replied to Hr Viktor's comment.
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kuhu see kaegus esitama peaks ?24 February 2017 15:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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ja kuna nad tööandjat hirmutasid siis katkestati töösuhe ka ära,24 February 2017 15:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
agas,
"aadress peab üles saama: Armastuse valda, Kallima külase, Truuduse taluse
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http://www.folklore.ee/lendva/index.php
"aadress peab üles saama: Armastuse valda, Kallima külase, Truuduse taluse
-
http://www.folklore.ee/lendva/index.php
http://www.folklore.ee/lendva/index.php
24 February 2017 08:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Selleasemel, et kurta "mainstream" uudiste ja "fake news" jms jama üle,
loe siis seda mis vaja on,
Seniks kuni seda veel on,
Berta. BERTA ehk eesti rahvakalendri andmebaas ja tähtpäevade käsitlused. Koostanud Mare Kõiva, Taive Särg, Liisa Vesik. Andmebaasi osa otsitav tähtpäevade, metaandmestiku ja muude kategooriate järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/Berta/
Eesti keerdküsimused. Koostanud Piret Voolaid. Sisaldab üle 25 000 eesti keerdküsimust, mis on otsitavad küsimuse, vastuse, arhiiviviite, koguja, kogumiskoha ehk topograafia, kogumisaja või märksõna järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/Keerdkys/
Eesti lühendmõistatused. Koostanud Piret Voolaid. Sisaldab üle 3000 lühendilaadset mõistatust, mis on otsitavad küsimuse, vastuse, arhiiviviite, koguja, kogumiskoha ehk topograafia, kogumisaja või märksõna järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/Lyhendid/
Eesti maskeerimiskombestik. Koostas Ülo Tedre, tekstid sisestas Maris Müürsepp-Leponiemi. Uus andmekeskkond sisaldab Ülo Tedre põhjalikku käsitlust eesti vanematest sanditamis- ja maskeerimiskommetest koos kaartide ja fotodega. Andmebaasi osa sisaldab maskeerimiskombestikku puudutavaid tekste ERA käsikirjalisest rahvaluulearhiivist ja EKI murdearhiivist.
http://www.folklore.ee/Sanditajad/
Eesti mõistatused. Koostanud Jaak ja Arvo Krikmann. Sisaldab päringuvõimalusi 95751 eesti mõistatuse kohta (tekst, lahend, koht, aeg, koguja jne), vahendeid päringutulemuste kihelkondlikuks kartografeerimiseks ning mitmesuguseid lisamaterjale.
http://www.folklore.ee/moistatused/
Eesti värssmõistatused. Koostanud Piret Voolaid. Sisaldab u 1700 teksti, mis on leitavad küsimuse, vastuse, arhiiviviite, koguja, kogumiskoha ehk topograafia, kogumisaja või märksõna järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/moistatused/
Eesti regilaulude andmebaas. Sisaldab kõiki Jakob Hurda ja Eesti Üliõpilaste Seltsi rahvaluulekogudes leiduvaid regilaulutekste koos lisamaterjalidega (kombe-, mängukirjeldused jm). Otsida saab kihelkonna, koguja ja kogumisaja järgi, laulutekstidest ja metaandmetest. Koostanud Eesti Rahvaluule Arhiivi regilauluprojektis osalejad.
http://www.folklore.ee/regilaul/
Eesti piltmõistatused. Koostanud Piret Voolaid. Sisaldab kõiki 1996. aastani kogutud piltmõistatusi, mida kasutaja saab genereerida andmebaasist küsimuse, vastuse, arhiiviviite, koguja, kogumiskoha ehk topograafia, kogumisaja või märksõna järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/Reebus/
Eesti liitsõnamängud. Koostanud Piret Voolaid. Sisaldab üle 5000 eesti (liit)sõnamänge, mis on otsitavad küsimuse, vastuse, arhiiviviite, koguja, kogumiskoha ehk topograafia, kogumisaja või märksõna järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/Sonamang/
Eesti valemmõistatused. Koostanud Piret Voolaid. Sisaldab 635 teksti, mis on leitavad küsimuse, vastuse, arhiiviviite, koguja, kogumiskoha ehk topograafia, kogumisaja või märksõna järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/Valemid/
Eesti vanasõnad. Koostanud Arvo Krikmann. Sisaldab kõiki eesti vanasõnu. Otsija võimaldab järjestada leide tüübinumbrite või esinemissageduse järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/rl/date/robotid/leht1.html
E-kogud. Võimaldab erinevaid päringuid folkloristide siseserveri andmebaasist Klaabu.
http://www.folklore.ee/cgi-bin/ekogud
Etnoastronoomia. Koostanud Aado Lintrop. Valik süstematiseeritud usunditeateid maailma, planeetide, tähtede ja taevalaotuse kohta.
http://www.folklore.ee/~aado/maailm/
Grafiti andmebaas. Koostanud Piret Voolaid. Aastail 2010–2012 toimunud Eesti Teaduste Akadeemia ja Poola Teaduste Akadeemia koostööprojekti „Creativity and tradition in cultural communication“ (“Loovus ja traditsioon kultuurikommunikatsioonis”) üks väljundeid, mis sisaldab põhiliselt Tartust, aga ka mujalt jäädvustatud paröömilist ehk vanasõnalis-fraseoloogilist grafitit.
http://www.folklore.ee/Graffiti/
Herba. HERBA ehk etnobotaanika andmebaas. Koostanud Renata Sõukand ja Raivo Kalle, sisaldab vanemate käsikirjaliste kogude andmestikku, otsitav märksõnade ja botaaniliste tunnuste järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/herba/
Kohapärimuse andmebaas Koobas. Koostanud Eesti Rahvaluule Arhiivi kohapärimuse töörühm. Materjalid otsitavad nii paikade kui tekstide kohta käivate tunnuste järgi.
http://galerii.kirmus.ee/koobas/
Justkui ehk eesti kõnekäändude ja fraseologismide andmebaas. Koostanud Anneli Baran, Anne Hussar, Asta Õim, Katre Õim. Sisaldab umbes 160 000 väljendit, mis on otsitavad väljendi, tüübi, sisu, arhiiviviite, koha, koguja, esitaja, kogumisaja järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/justkui/
Kõnekäänud ja fraseologismid. Koostanud Arvo Krikmann. Sisaldab u 25400 teksti eesti kõnekäände ja fraseologisme, mis pärinevad: Asta Õimu Fraseoloogiasõnaraamatust, ERA käsikirjalisest rahvaluulearhiivist ja EKI murdearhiivist.
http://www.folklore.ee/rl/date/robotid/leht3.html
LEPP, Lõuna-eesti pärimuse portaal. Koostanud Mare Kõiva. Sisaldab 10000 Võrumaa ja Setumaa rahvaluuleteksti.
http://www.folklore.ee/lepp/
Lendvapärimus. Koostanud Mare Kõiva,. Sisaldab kõiki teemakohaseid teateid, jutte, nõidussõnu ja meditsiiniparktikat. Otsitav märkõnade järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/lendva/
Levikuandmete kaardistaja. Koostanud Jaak ja Arvo Krikmann. Võimaldab teha mitmes projektsioonis kihelkondliku täpsusega levikukaartemistahes folkloorsete, etnograafiliste, dialektoloogiliste vm nähtuste kohta, kartogramme siluda, lisada neile legende jmt. Arvandmeid saab sisestada käsitsi või mõne tabeliformaati tundva programmi failidest (Word, OpenOffice, Notepad, Excel, Statistica vm).
http://www.folklore.ee/moistatused/kaardimasin/index.php
Netihuumor. Koostanud Liisi Laineste. Sisaldab u. 30 000 eesti netinalja 1996. aastast tänini. Võimalik on märksõnaotsing.
http://www.folklore.ee/~liisi/o2/
Rehepapp. Rahvausundi ja -juttude andmebaas. Koostanud Mare Kõiva, Mare Kalda jt. Sisaldab muistendeid, loitse ja uskumusi.
http://www.folklore.ee/rehepapp/
Setu pärimus Ello Kirsi kirjapanekustes. Legendid, muinasjutud, uskumused, tavaõigus ja muu setu pärimus. Koostanud Kristi Salve.
http://www.folklore.ee/setukirss/
Ingliskeelsed andmebaasid:
Estonian Droodles. Compiled by Piret Voolaid. Includes all Estonian rebuses collected before 1996. The database is searchable by words in the question, answer, archive reference, collector, site of recording, time of recording or keyword.
http://www.folklore.ee/Droodles/
Saksakeelsed andmebaasid:
Estnische Sprichwörter mit der buchstäblichen Übersetzung in die deutsche Sprache. Arvo Krikmann. 12,700 Estonian proverbs with translations into German. Searchable by keyword and type number either among Estonian or German texts.
http://www.folklore.ee/rl/date/saksa/
loe siis seda mis vaja on,
Seniks kuni seda veel on,
Berta. BERTA ehk eesti rahvakalendri andmebaas ja tähtpäevade käsitlused. Koostanud Mare Kõiva, Taive Särg, Liisa Vesik. Andmebaasi osa otsitav tähtpäevade, metaandmestiku ja muude kategooriate järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/Berta/
Eesti keerdküsimused. Koostanud Piret Voolaid. Sisaldab üle 25 000 eesti keerdküsimust, mis on otsitavad küsimuse, vastuse, arhiiviviite, koguja, kogumiskoha ehk topograafia, kogumisaja või märksõna järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/Keerdkys/
Eesti lühendmõistatused. Koostanud Piret Voolaid. Sisaldab üle 3000 lühendilaadset mõistatust, mis on otsitavad küsimuse, vastuse, arhiiviviite, koguja, kogumiskoha ehk topograafia, kogumisaja või märksõna järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/Lyhendid/
Eesti maskeerimiskombestik. Koostas Ülo Tedre, tekstid sisestas Maris Müürsepp-Leponiemi. Uus andmekeskkond sisaldab Ülo Tedre põhjalikku käsitlust eesti vanematest sanditamis- ja maskeerimiskommetest koos kaartide ja fotodega. Andmebaasi osa sisaldab maskeerimiskombestikku puudutavaid tekste ERA käsikirjalisest rahvaluulearhiivist ja EKI murdearhiivist.
http://www.folklore.ee/Sanditajad/
Eesti mõistatused. Koostanud Jaak ja Arvo Krikmann. Sisaldab päringuvõimalusi 95751 eesti mõistatuse kohta (tekst, lahend, koht, aeg, koguja jne), vahendeid päringutulemuste kihelkondlikuks kartografeerimiseks ning mitmesuguseid lisamaterjale.
http://www.folklore.ee/moistatused/
Eesti värssmõistatused. Koostanud Piret Voolaid. Sisaldab u 1700 teksti, mis on leitavad küsimuse, vastuse, arhiiviviite, koguja, kogumiskoha ehk topograafia, kogumisaja või märksõna järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/moistatused/
Eesti regilaulude andmebaas. Sisaldab kõiki Jakob Hurda ja Eesti Üliõpilaste Seltsi rahvaluulekogudes leiduvaid regilaulutekste koos lisamaterjalidega (kombe-, mängukirjeldused jm). Otsida saab kihelkonna, koguja ja kogumisaja järgi, laulutekstidest ja metaandmetest. Koostanud Eesti Rahvaluule Arhiivi regilauluprojektis osalejad.
http://www.folklore.ee/regilaul/
Eesti piltmõistatused. Koostanud Piret Voolaid. Sisaldab kõiki 1996. aastani kogutud piltmõistatusi, mida kasutaja saab genereerida andmebaasist küsimuse, vastuse, arhiiviviite, koguja, kogumiskoha ehk topograafia, kogumisaja või märksõna järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/Reebus/
Eesti liitsõnamängud. Koostanud Piret Voolaid. Sisaldab üle 5000 eesti (liit)sõnamänge, mis on otsitavad küsimuse, vastuse, arhiiviviite, koguja, kogumiskoha ehk topograafia, kogumisaja või märksõna järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/Sonamang/
Eesti valemmõistatused. Koostanud Piret Voolaid. Sisaldab 635 teksti, mis on leitavad küsimuse, vastuse, arhiiviviite, koguja, kogumiskoha ehk topograafia, kogumisaja või märksõna järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/Valemid/
Eesti vanasõnad. Koostanud Arvo Krikmann. Sisaldab kõiki eesti vanasõnu. Otsija võimaldab järjestada leide tüübinumbrite või esinemissageduse järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/rl/date/robotid/leht1.html
E-kogud. Võimaldab erinevaid päringuid folkloristide siseserveri andmebaasist Klaabu.
http://www.folklore.ee/cgi-bin/ekogud
Etnoastronoomia. Koostanud Aado Lintrop. Valik süstematiseeritud usunditeateid maailma, planeetide, tähtede ja taevalaotuse kohta.
http://www.folklore.ee/~aado/maailm/
Grafiti andmebaas. Koostanud Piret Voolaid. Aastail 2010–2012 toimunud Eesti Teaduste Akadeemia ja Poola Teaduste Akadeemia koostööprojekti „Creativity and tradition in cultural communication“ (“Loovus ja traditsioon kultuurikommunikatsioonis”) üks väljundeid, mis sisaldab põhiliselt Tartust, aga ka mujalt jäädvustatud paröömilist ehk vanasõnalis-fraseoloogilist grafitit.
http://www.folklore.ee/Graffiti/
Herba. HERBA ehk etnobotaanika andmebaas. Koostanud Renata Sõukand ja Raivo Kalle, sisaldab vanemate käsikirjaliste kogude andmestikku, otsitav märksõnade ja botaaniliste tunnuste järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/herba/
Kohapärimuse andmebaas Koobas. Koostanud Eesti Rahvaluule Arhiivi kohapärimuse töörühm. Materjalid otsitavad nii paikade kui tekstide kohta käivate tunnuste järgi.
http://galerii.kirmus.ee/koobas/
Justkui ehk eesti kõnekäändude ja fraseologismide andmebaas. Koostanud Anneli Baran, Anne Hussar, Asta Õim, Katre Õim. Sisaldab umbes 160 000 väljendit, mis on otsitavad väljendi, tüübi, sisu, arhiiviviite, koha, koguja, esitaja, kogumisaja järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/justkui/
Kõnekäänud ja fraseologismid. Koostanud Arvo Krikmann. Sisaldab u 25400 teksti eesti kõnekäände ja fraseologisme, mis pärinevad: Asta Õimu Fraseoloogiasõnaraamatust, ERA käsikirjalisest rahvaluulearhiivist ja EKI murdearhiivist.
http://www.folklore.ee/rl/date/robotid/leht3.html
LEPP, Lõuna-eesti pärimuse portaal. Koostanud Mare Kõiva. Sisaldab 10000 Võrumaa ja Setumaa rahvaluuleteksti.
http://www.folklore.ee/lepp/
Lendvapärimus. Koostanud Mare Kõiva,. Sisaldab kõiki teemakohaseid teateid, jutte, nõidussõnu ja meditsiiniparktikat. Otsitav märkõnade järgi.
http://www.folklore.ee/lendva/
Levikuandmete kaardistaja. Koostanud Jaak ja Arvo Krikmann. Võimaldab teha mitmes projektsioonis kihelkondliku täpsusega levikukaartemistahes folkloorsete, etnograafiliste, dialektoloogiliste vm nähtuste kohta, kartogramme siluda, lisada neile legende jmt. Arvandmeid saab sisestada käsitsi või mõne tabeliformaati tundva programmi failidest (Word, OpenOffice, Notepad, Excel, Statistica vm).
http://www.folklore.ee/moistatused/kaardimasin/index.php
Netihuumor. Koostanud Liisi Laineste. Sisaldab u. 30 000 eesti netinalja 1996. aastast tänini. Võimalik on märksõnaotsing.
http://www.folklore.ee/~liisi/o2/
Rehepapp. Rahvausundi ja -juttude andmebaas. Koostanud Mare Kõiva, Mare Kalda jt. Sisaldab muistendeid, loitse ja uskumusi.
http://www.folklore.ee/rehepapp/
Setu pärimus Ello Kirsi kirjapanekustes. Legendid, muinasjutud, uskumused, tavaõigus ja muu setu pärimus. Koostanud Kristi Salve.
http://www.folklore.ee/setukirss/
Ingliskeelsed andmebaasid:
Estonian Droodles. Compiled by Piret Voolaid. Includes all Estonian rebuses collected before 1996. The database is searchable by words in the question, answer, archive reference, collector, site of recording, time of recording or keyword.
http://www.folklore.ee/Droodles/
Saksakeelsed andmebaasid:
Estnische Sprichwörter mit der buchstäblichen Übersetzung in die deutsche Sprache. Arvo Krikmann. 12,700 Estonian proverbs with translations into German. Searchable by keyword and type number either among Estonian or German texts.
http://www.folklore.ee/rl/date/saksa/
http://www.folklore.ee/Berta/
24 February 2017 08:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The most widespread female deity in world mythologies is the God-
dess of the Earth, known among Finno-Ugric peoples as Mother Earth."
Authors:
Erik Aasland
Nino Abakelia
Atirkul Agmanova
Elka Agoston-Nikolova
Rosa Isela Aguilar Montes de Oca
Fatih Akdeniz
Evangelos Albanidis
Ezekiel Alembi
Joe Allard
Rene Altrov
Dinara Amanzholova
Laima Anglickienė
Päivikki Antola
Veikko Anttonen
Tatiana Argounova-Low
Angela Arraste
Madis Arukask
Anastasiya Astapova
Eero Autio
Evangelos Avdikos
B
Olga Balalaeva
Huai Bao
Anneli Baran
Kamila Baraniecka-Olszewska
Tim Bayliss-Smith
Nyssanbay M. Bekbassar
Juraj Belaj
Marijana Belaj
Dmitry Belyukov
Yuri Berezkin
Håkan Berglund-Lake
Elizabeth Ann Berton-Reilly
Jürgen Beyer
Javaid Iqbal Bhat
David Bimler
Ismail Bozkurt
Brigitte Boenisch-Brednich
Helen Bome
Elif Boyacıoğlu
Rolf W. Brednich
Daniel Briggs
Tatiana D. Bulgakova
C
Véronique Campion-Vincent
Vito Carrassi
Biplab Chakraborty
Milana Černelić
Victoria Chervaneva
Anne Carlie
Cristina Clopot
Coppélie Cocq
D
Amots Dafni
Sándor Darányi
Brigitta Davidjants
Christie Davies
Tatiana Deviatkina
Stephan Dudeck
Evgeny Duvakin
E
Enn Ernits
Katarina Ek-Nilsson
Britt Eklund
F
Harid Fedai
Anne Ferlat
Larisa Fialkova
Jurij Fikfak
Filippou Filippos
Outi Fingerroos
Laurent Sébastien Fournier
Daniel J. Frim
Brigitte Frizzoni
Frog
G
Marija Gačić
Christine Garlough
David E. Gay
Mehari Yimulaw Gebregeorgis
Galina Glukhova
Natalia Glukhova
Ivan Gololobov
Inna Golovakha-Hicks
Dimitrios Goulimaris
Liisa Granbom-Herranen
Grigor Haralampiev Grigorov
Toomas Gross
Rozaliya Guigova
Terry Gunnell
Judit Gulyas
Aleksandr V. Gura
Anders Gustavsson
Robin Gwyndaf
H
Ain Haas
Joachim Otto Habeck
Marina Hakkarainen
Evy Johanne Håland
Harahoussou Ivonni
Dieter Harmening
Ott Heinapuu
Anne Heimo
Anne Heith
Anna-Britta Hellbom
Ágnes Hesz
Mall Hiiemäe
Reet Hiiemäe
Mihaly Hoppal
Tuomas Hovi
Marlene Hugoson
Sonja Hukantaival
Anne Hussar
I
Henni Ilomäki
Kristin Ilves
Kirill Istomin
Anamaria Iuga
J
Tiiu Jaago
Jaak Jaaniste
Roomet Jakapi
Alvard Jivanyan
Kristiina Johanson
Asbjørn Jøn
Tõnno Jonuks
Francis Joy
Lene I. Jørgensen
Kirsti Jõesalu
Aivar Jürgenson
Anni Jürine
Risto Järv
K
Maarja Kaaristo
Kabitsis Christos
György Kádár
Kamil Kajkowski
Mare Kalda
Andreas Kalkun
Eda Kalmre
Sille Kapper
Enn Kasak
Christine Shojaei Kawan
Petra Kelemen
Toms Ķencis
Bronislava Kerbelytė
Kabyl Khalykov
Dinara Khamidullina
Valentina Kharitonova
Zhanat Kundakbayeva
Katre Kikas
Eve Kikas
Alexander D. King
Kitula King'ei
Pekka Kivikäs
Seppo Knuuttila
Fumihiko Kobayashi
Koleta Maria
Vesselina Koleva
Stepan Kolodeznikov
Marge Konsa
Anu Korb
Piret Koosa
Jeanne Kormina
Kaarina Koski
Ivan Kovacevic
Arvo Krikmann
Stefan Krist
Monika Kropej
Andrzej Kuczkowski
Tarmo Kulmar
Andres Kuperjanov
Tuuli Kurisoo
Tuulikki Kurki
Barbara Ivančič Kutin
Kristin Kuutma
Nikolai Kuznetsov
Mare Kõiva
Ene Kõresaar
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László Ládi
Sandis Laime
Liisi Laineste
Teuvo Laitila
Toomas Lapp
Pauliina Latvala
Outi Lauhakangas
Kirsi Laurén
Art Leete
Ilse Lehiste
Marju Lepajõe
Constantine B. Lerner
Georgiy A. Levinton
Elena V. Liarskaya
Fred van Lieburg
Aigars Lielbārdis
Jana Limbo-Simovart
Pavel F. Limerov
Erki Lind
Aado Lintrop
Staffan Lundmark
Marju Luts
Emily Lyle
M
L. Madan Mohan
Lena Marander-Eklund
Leonid Marsadolov
Pedro Martins
Askhat Mayemirov
Theo Meder
Tomi S. Melka
Mirjam Mencej
Arne Merilai
Merili Metsvahi
Wolfgang Mieder
Ġorġ Mifsud-Chircop
Natalia Mikhailova
Marika Mikkor
Tatiana Minniakhmetova
Immaculate Mirambo
Galina Misharina
Mahendra Kumar Mishra
Staffan Mjönes
Argo Moor
Kirsten Møllegaard
Inga-Maria Mulk
Marika Mägi
Harri Mürk
N
Bakhtiar Naghdipour
Ilona Nagy
Vladimir Napolskikh
Liivo Niglas
Bo G. Nilsson
Alexander Novik
Raili Nugin
Bakhyt Nurpeis
Deirdre Nuttall
O
Ayelet Oettinger
Triinu Ojamaa
Ester Oras
Janika Oras
Heili Orav
Oladele Caleb Orimoogunje
Carme Oriol
Loone Ots
Ajibade George Olusola
P
Liina Paales
Gyula Paczolay
Karl Pajusalu
Renate Pajusalu
Hille Pajupuu
Jaan Pajupuu
Guntis Pakalns
Ulf Palmenfelt
Alexander Panchenko
Tatiana Panina
Marilena Papachristophorou
Andres Peekna
Eleanor Peers
Maria Petersson
Elisabeth Piirainen
Liisi Piits
Jaanus Plaat
Väino Poikalainen
Tatiana Popova
Yelena Popova
Michael Preminger
Andrei Prokhorov
Aldis Putelis
Ilkka Pyysiäinen
R
Kirsten Marie Raahauge
Ain Raal
Radvilė Racėnaitė
Nemanja Radulović
Taisto Kalevi Raudalainen
Ravit Raufman
Mart Raukas
Sanita Reinsone
Rita Repšienė
Jonathan Roper
Ilana Rosen
Jaan Ross
Kamshat Rustem
Eha Rüütel
Ingrid Rüütel
Daniel C. Ryan
John S. Ryan
S
Edgar Saar
Tatiana Safonova
Sarita Sahay
Kirsti Salmi-Niklander
Kristi Salve
Jodi L. Sandford
István Sántha
Virve Sarapik
Ingrid Sarv
Kadi Sarv
Mari Sarv
Irina Sedakova
Elo-Hanna Seljamaa
Vasileios Serbezis
Manolis G. Sergis
John Shaw
Sergey Shtyrkov
Hesi Siimets
Ülo Siimets
Laura Siragusa
Sanjay Sircar
Filomena Sirovica
Nikolay Sivkov
Anna Sivula
Ingrid Slavec Gradišnik
Platon Sleptsov
Florian M. Stammler
Stanoy Stanoev
Eija Stark
Ana Stefanova
Andrey Sobolev
Helen Sooväli-Sepping
Abram D. Stoliar
Natalia Struchkova
Madina Sultanova
Urmas Sutrop
Taive Särg
Renata Sõukand
Grete Swensen
Š
Žilvytis Šaknys
T
Mait Talts
Marek Tamm
Marju Torp-Kõivupuu
Merle Talvik
Eva Toulouze
Ilona Tragel
Svetlana Tsonkova
Astrid Tuisk
Uğur Tuztaşı
Andres Tvauri
U
Hans-Jörg Uther
Undo Uus
Mari Uusküla
Mehmet Uysal
V
Ene Vainik
Jonas Vaiškunas
Vykintas Vaitkevičius
Heiki Valk
Ülo Valk
Laur Vallikivi
Kinga Varga-Dobai
Raul Veede
Ann Veismann
Ekaterina Velmezova
Aimar Ventsel
Anna Verschik
Liisa Vesik
Piret Viires
Eha Viluoja
Tatiana Vladykina
Nina Vlaskina
Galina Vlasova
Vilmos Voigt
Henn Voolaid
Kalle Voolaid
Piret Voolaid
Ester Võsu
Ergo-Hart Västrik
W
Robert E. Walker
Joseph Yelepuo Wegru
Ola Wennstedt
Anna Wessman
Andrew Wiget
Urszula Wilk
Stephen Williams
Ö
Leyla Önal
Õ
Asta Õim
Katre Õim
Piret Õunapuu
Y
Maria Yelenevskaya
Junwei Yu
Nina Yurchenkova
Z
Iivi Zajedova
Baurzhan Zhangutin
Sholpan Zharkynbekova
https://www.folklore.ee/folklore/authors/
dess of the Earth, known among Finno-Ugric peoples as Mother Earth."
Authors:
Erik Aasland
Nino Abakelia
Atirkul Agmanova
Elka Agoston-Nikolova
Rosa Isela Aguilar Montes de Oca
Fatih Akdeniz
Evangelos Albanidis
Ezekiel Alembi
Joe Allard
Rene Altrov
Dinara Amanzholova
Laima Anglickienė
Päivikki Antola
Veikko Anttonen
Tatiana Argounova-Low
Angela Arraste
Madis Arukask
Anastasiya Astapova
Eero Autio
Evangelos Avdikos
B
Olga Balalaeva
Huai Bao
Anneli Baran
Kamila Baraniecka-Olszewska
Tim Bayliss-Smith
Nyssanbay M. Bekbassar
Juraj Belaj
Marijana Belaj
Dmitry Belyukov
Yuri Berezkin
Håkan Berglund-Lake
Elizabeth Ann Berton-Reilly
Jürgen Beyer
Javaid Iqbal Bhat
David Bimler
Ismail Bozkurt
Brigitte Boenisch-Brednich
Helen Bome
Elif Boyacıoğlu
Rolf W. Brednich
Daniel Briggs
Tatiana D. Bulgakova
C
Véronique Campion-Vincent
Vito Carrassi
Biplab Chakraborty
Milana Černelić
Victoria Chervaneva
Anne Carlie
Cristina Clopot
Coppélie Cocq
D
Amots Dafni
Sándor Darányi
Brigitta Davidjants
Christie Davies
Tatiana Deviatkina
Stephan Dudeck
Evgeny Duvakin
E
Enn Ernits
Katarina Ek-Nilsson
Britt Eklund
F
Harid Fedai
Anne Ferlat
Larisa Fialkova
Jurij Fikfak
Filippou Filippos
Outi Fingerroos
Laurent Sébastien Fournier
Daniel J. Frim
Brigitte Frizzoni
Frog
G
Marija Gačić
Christine Garlough
David E. Gay
Mehari Yimulaw Gebregeorgis
Galina Glukhova
Natalia Glukhova
Ivan Gololobov
Inna Golovakha-Hicks
Dimitrios Goulimaris
Liisa Granbom-Herranen
Grigor Haralampiev Grigorov
Toomas Gross
Rozaliya Guigova
Terry Gunnell
Judit Gulyas
Aleksandr V. Gura
Anders Gustavsson
Robin Gwyndaf
H
Ain Haas
Joachim Otto Habeck
Marina Hakkarainen
Evy Johanne Håland
Harahoussou Ivonni
Dieter Harmening
Ott Heinapuu
Anne Heimo
Anne Heith
Anna-Britta Hellbom
Ágnes Hesz
Mall Hiiemäe
Reet Hiiemäe
Mihaly Hoppal
Tuomas Hovi
Marlene Hugoson
Sonja Hukantaival
Anne Hussar
I
Henni Ilomäki
Kristin Ilves
Kirill Istomin
Anamaria Iuga
J
Tiiu Jaago
Jaak Jaaniste
Roomet Jakapi
Alvard Jivanyan
Kristiina Johanson
Asbjørn Jøn
Tõnno Jonuks
Francis Joy
Lene I. Jørgensen
Kirsti Jõesalu
Aivar Jürgenson
Anni Jürine
Risto Järv
K
Maarja Kaaristo
Kabitsis Christos
György Kádár
Kamil Kajkowski
Mare Kalda
Andreas Kalkun
Eda Kalmre
Sille Kapper
Enn Kasak
Christine Shojaei Kawan
Petra Kelemen
Toms Ķencis
Bronislava Kerbelytė
Kabyl Khalykov
Dinara Khamidullina
Valentina Kharitonova
Zhanat Kundakbayeva
Katre Kikas
Eve Kikas
Alexander D. King
Kitula King'ei
Pekka Kivikäs
Seppo Knuuttila
Fumihiko Kobayashi
Koleta Maria
Vesselina Koleva
Stepan Kolodeznikov
Marge Konsa
Anu Korb
Piret Koosa
Jeanne Kormina
Kaarina Koski
Ivan Kovacevic
Arvo Krikmann
Stefan Krist
Monika Kropej
Andrzej Kuczkowski
Tarmo Kulmar
Andres Kuperjanov
Tuuli Kurisoo
Tuulikki Kurki
Barbara Ivančič Kutin
Kristin Kuutma
Nikolai Kuznetsov
Mare Kõiva
Ene Kõresaar
L
László Ládi
Sandis Laime
Liisi Laineste
Teuvo Laitila
Toomas Lapp
Pauliina Latvala
Outi Lauhakangas
Kirsi Laurén
Art Leete
Ilse Lehiste
Marju Lepajõe
Constantine B. Lerner
Georgiy A. Levinton
Elena V. Liarskaya
Fred van Lieburg
Aigars Lielbārdis
Jana Limbo-Simovart
Pavel F. Limerov
Erki Lind
Aado Lintrop
Staffan Lundmark
Marju Luts
Emily Lyle
M
L. Madan Mohan
Lena Marander-Eklund
Leonid Marsadolov
Pedro Martins
Askhat Mayemirov
Theo Meder
Tomi S. Melka
Mirjam Mencej
Arne Merilai
Merili Metsvahi
Wolfgang Mieder
Ġorġ Mifsud-Chircop
Natalia Mikhailova
Marika Mikkor
Tatiana Minniakhmetova
Immaculate Mirambo
Galina Misharina
Mahendra Kumar Mishra
Staffan Mjönes
Argo Moor
Kirsten Møllegaard
Inga-Maria Mulk
Marika Mägi
Harri Mürk
N
Bakhtiar Naghdipour
Ilona Nagy
Vladimir Napolskikh
Liivo Niglas
Bo G. Nilsson
Alexander Novik
Raili Nugin
Bakhyt Nurpeis
Deirdre Nuttall
O
Ayelet Oettinger
Triinu Ojamaa
Ester Oras
Janika Oras
Heili Orav
Oladele Caleb Orimoogunje
Carme Oriol
Loone Ots
Ajibade George Olusola
P
Liina Paales
Gyula Paczolay
Karl Pajusalu
Renate Pajusalu
Hille Pajupuu
Jaan Pajupuu
Guntis Pakalns
Ulf Palmenfelt
Alexander Panchenko
Tatiana Panina
Marilena Papachristophorou
Andres Peekna
Eleanor Peers
Maria Petersson
Elisabeth Piirainen
Liisi Piits
Jaanus Plaat
Väino Poikalainen
Tatiana Popova
Yelena Popova
Michael Preminger
Andrei Prokhorov
Aldis Putelis
Ilkka Pyysiäinen
R
Kirsten Marie Raahauge
Ain Raal
Radvilė Racėnaitė
Nemanja Radulović
Taisto Kalevi Raudalainen
Ravit Raufman
Mart Raukas
Sanita Reinsone
Rita Repšienė
Jonathan Roper
Ilana Rosen
Jaan Ross
Kamshat Rustem
Eha Rüütel
Ingrid Rüütel
Daniel C. Ryan
John S. Ryan
S
Edgar Saar
Tatiana Safonova
Sarita Sahay
Kirsti Salmi-Niklander
Kristi Salve
Jodi L. Sandford
István Sántha
Virve Sarapik
Ingrid Sarv
Kadi Sarv
Mari Sarv
Irina Sedakova
Elo-Hanna Seljamaa
Vasileios Serbezis
Manolis G. Sergis
John Shaw
Sergey Shtyrkov
Hesi Siimets
Ülo Siimets
Laura Siragusa
Sanjay Sircar
Filomena Sirovica
Nikolay Sivkov
Anna Sivula
Ingrid Slavec Gradišnik
Platon Sleptsov
Florian M. Stammler
Stanoy Stanoev
Eija Stark
Ana Stefanova
Andrey Sobolev
Helen Sooväli-Sepping
Abram D. Stoliar
Natalia Struchkova
Madina Sultanova
Urmas Sutrop
Taive Särg
Renata Sõukand
Grete Swensen
Š
Žilvytis Šaknys
T
Mait Talts
Marek Tamm
Marju Torp-Kõivupuu
Merle Talvik
Eva Toulouze
Ilona Tragel
Svetlana Tsonkova
Astrid Tuisk
Uğur Tuztaşı
Andres Tvauri
U
Hans-Jörg Uther
Undo Uus
Mari Uusküla
Mehmet Uysal
V
Ene Vainik
Jonas Vaiškunas
Vykintas Vaitkevičius
Heiki Valk
Ülo Valk
Laur Vallikivi
Kinga Varga-Dobai
Raul Veede
Ann Veismann
Ekaterina Velmezova
Aimar Ventsel
Anna Verschik
Liisa Vesik
Piret Viires
Eha Viluoja
Tatiana Vladykina
Nina Vlaskina
Galina Vlasova
Vilmos Voigt
Henn Voolaid
Kalle Voolaid
Piret Voolaid
Ester Võsu
Ergo-Hart Västrik
W
Robert E. Walker
Joseph Yelepuo Wegru
Ola Wennstedt
Anna Wessman
Andrew Wiget
Urszula Wilk
Stephen Williams
Ö
Leyla Önal
Õ
Asta Õim
Katre Õim
Piret Õunapuu
Y
Maria Yelenevskaya
Junwei Yu
Nina Yurchenkova
Z
Iivi Zajedova
Baurzhan Zhangutin
Sholpan Zharkynbekova
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24 February 2017 07:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hiie sõbra aunime võib anda inimesele, yhendusele või asutusele, kelle sihikindla tegevuse tõttu on ajalooline looduslik pyhapaik säilinud või selle seisukord paranenud. Hiie sõbra aunime saaja valib esitatud isikute hulgast välja Maavalla koja, Hiite Maja SA ja EVT Põlisrahvaste SA moodustatud valimiskogu.
https://www.maavald.ee/hiie-sober/4195-hiie-sober
https://www.maavald.ee/hiie-sober/4195-hiie-sober
https://www.maavald.ee/hiie-sober/4195-hiie-sober
24 February 2017 07:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.folkloorinoukogu.ee/Uleriigilised_ja_regionaalsed_selt_692
Akadeemiline Rahvaluule Selts
Mari Sarv
mari@folklore.ee
CIOFF® Eesti Noortekoda
Sandra Suurkask
sandra.suurkask@gmail.com
Eesti Europeade Komitee
Irina Pärila
irina.parila@joelahtme.ee
Eesti-Mordva Selts
Natalia Ermakov
natalia.ermakov@folkloorinoukogu.ee
Eesti Pärimusmuusika Keskus
Tarmo Noormaa
folk@folk.ee
Eesti Rahvakunsti ja Käsitöö Liit
Liina Veskimägi-Iliste
liina@folkart.ee
Eesti rahvapärandi ja kirjavara esitamise selts Loomine
Maie Orav
maie.orav@gmail.com
Eesti Rahvapärimuse Kool
Terje Puistaja
terjepu@gmail.com
Eesti Rahvatantsu- ja Rahvamuusika Selts
Kalev Järvela
errs@errs.ee
Etno Tuba
Margit Sondberg
info@etnotuba.ee
Fenno Ugria Asutus
Kadi Raudalainen
info@fennougria.ee
Folgiklubi Kandlekoda
Margit Kuhi
kandlekoda@hot.ee
MTÜ Eesti-Vene Rahvakultuurikeskus BEREGINJA
Natalja Jampolskaja
natalja.jampolskaja@mail.ru
MTÜ Kunsti- ja kultuuriselts Hohloma
Veronika Meibaum
veronika@venetalu.ee
MTÜ Rakuke
Leila Joosepson
leila.joosepson@gmail.com
MTÜ Virbel
Krista Sildoja
krista@rahvamuusika.ee
Rahvatantsu- ja Rahvamuusikajuhtide Harjumaa Ühendus
Virve Lääne
virve.laane@gmail.com
Saaremaa Rahvakultuuri Selts
Krista Lember
krista@rahvakultuur.ee
SA Kihnu Kultuuriruum
Mare Mätas
kultuuriruum@kihnu.ee
Akadeemiline Rahvaluule Selts
Mari Sarv
mari@folklore.ee
CIOFF® Eesti Noortekoda
Sandra Suurkask
sandra.suurkask@gmail.com
Eesti Europeade Komitee
Irina Pärila
irina.parila@joelahtme.ee
Eesti-Mordva Selts
Natalia Ermakov
natalia.ermakov@folkloorinoukogu.ee
Eesti Pärimusmuusika Keskus
Tarmo Noormaa
folk@folk.ee
Eesti Rahvakunsti ja Käsitöö Liit
Liina Veskimägi-Iliste
liina@folkart.ee
Eesti rahvapärandi ja kirjavara esitamise selts Loomine
Maie Orav
maie.orav@gmail.com
Eesti Rahvapärimuse Kool
Terje Puistaja
terjepu@gmail.com
Eesti Rahvatantsu- ja Rahvamuusika Selts
Kalev Järvela
errs@errs.ee
Etno Tuba
Margit Sondberg
info@etnotuba.ee
Fenno Ugria Asutus
Kadi Raudalainen
info@fennougria.ee
Folgiklubi Kandlekoda
Margit Kuhi
kandlekoda@hot.ee
MTÜ Eesti-Vene Rahvakultuurikeskus BEREGINJA
Natalja Jampolskaja
natalja.jampolskaja@mail.ru
MTÜ Kunsti- ja kultuuriselts Hohloma
Veronika Meibaum
veronika@venetalu.ee
MTÜ Rakuke
Leila Joosepson
leila.joosepson@gmail.com
MTÜ Virbel
Krista Sildoja
krista@rahvamuusika.ee
Rahvatantsu- ja Rahvamuusikajuhtide Harjumaa Ühendus
Virve Lääne
virve.laane@gmail.com
Saaremaa Rahvakultuuri Selts
Krista Lember
krista@rahvakultuur.ee
SA Kihnu Kultuuriruum
Mare Mätas
kultuuriruum@kihnu.ee
http://www.folkloorinoukogu.ee/Uleriigilised_ja_regionaalsed_selt_692
24 February 2017 07:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and then there is the guy on video "no idea how they madethem so high, maybe they was really tall people.."
have you heard about a ladder??
have you heard about a ladder??
24 February 2017 07:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sja see on korralik lehma sitt tundub, sellel pole viga midagi, isegi lõhnab normaalselt ja kasu on palju, haigeks kedagi e itee... aga peavoolumeedia..
24 February 2017 07:28
Margus Meigo commented on Aigar Kaju's photo.
Nii meeldiv see tunne nüüd küll ei ole
24 February 2017 07:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
there is solutions that keep them calm and less dangerus and that same time are not so facist
24 February 2017 07:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
with time to time recuired education about the world to recive benafit money.. not just giving it for nothing.. they as in school should at least be able to answer few understandings.. then there is use for it.. as mentally disturbed people should not punished and can not forced to work in normal way..
or other people victims of various psy programs and spy ops
or other people victims of various psy programs and spy ops
24 February 2017 07:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
one way it shows how soft is britan.. another way business people think "we so clever to use this scum to speed up whatever we want to do... "
same plans was for them with the Pub and all the other buildings who they later mark as "infected" so it can speed up the progress whatever they wanted to do there.
but poor kids in their head think they make revolution, and yes.. unfortunatlelly for the system they actually do, as this seed grows and spreads and .. for they , businessman not realize to what they give growth to.. as they now go keep going angry about Queen and all at times when they not have place to live.. and spread negativity against state to a world.. while sleeping with satan
and sponsored for that by state.
but as i told once, there should be law seperate for anarchists, if they do it, they excused, as they arnarchist, menaing people whos brain not able to understand basics about how world is, wictims of communism, so they should be excused, but still in the system marked as "anarchsits" ... probabaly theywould need a free drugsas well, and some other benafits to keep them calm
same plans was for them with the Pub and all the other buildings who they later mark as "infected" so it can speed up the progress whatever they wanted to do there.
but poor kids in their head think they make revolution, and yes.. unfortunatlelly for the system they actually do, as this seed grows and spreads and .. for they , businessman not realize to what they give growth to.. as they now go keep going angry about Queen and all at times when they not have place to live.. and spread negativity against state to a world.. while sleeping with satan
and sponsored for that by state.
but as i told once, there should be law seperate for anarchists, if they do it, they excused, as they arnarchist, menaing people whos brain not able to understand basics about how world is, wictims of communism, so they should be excused, but still in the system marked as "anarchsits" ... probabaly theywould need a free drugsas well, and some other benafits to keep them calm
24 February 2017 07:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
24 February 2017 07:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
at least be a man and say what is really on your mind "what bills ? F the bills, we aight gonna pay no pills for these criminals"
but no.. that would be to much right wing,
i guess ?
radher.. "play with a system.." and then curse behind a back.. kind of liberal way kind of anal boys way as i have seen the most homosexuals groups work .. around the corner and undirectly unless they feel secure enought.. up to that point lies is norm
and then whatever activism they in left over part of heart thought they do .. is becoming the problem it self they led to thought they fight against..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI3N1rDS16k
but no.. that would be to much right wing,
i guess ?
radher.. "play with a system.." and then curse behind a back.. kind of liberal way kind of anal boys way as i have seen the most homosexuals groups work .. around the corner and undirectly unless they feel secure enought.. up to that point lies is norm
and then whatever activism they in left over part of heart thought they do .. is becoming the problem it self they led to thought they fight against..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI3N1rDS16k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI3N1rDS16k
24 February 2017 07:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but stil makes me smale. just entire situation of it
like it is still going on and .. well.. larger then ever it seems :D
like it is still going on and .. well.. larger then ever it seems :D
24 February 2017 06:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" The new £14.2million seven storey mansion, with 35 rooms, offers stunning views over Wellington Barracks and St James's Park and is owned by the former vice chairman of Global Banking Corporation, Bahrain banker Abdul Rahman Mohammed Al Jasmi.
Squatter Tom Fox, from a group called Autonomous Nation of Anarchist Libertarians (ANAL), opened the new space on Tuesday night at around 12am and discovered it to have five rooms on each of its seven floors. "
and is not that they are far from anal.
at all
Squatter Tom Fox, from a group called Autonomous Nation of Anarchist Libertarians (ANAL), opened the new space on Tuesday night at around 12am and discovered it to have five rooms on each of its seven floors. "
and is not that they are far from anal.
at all
24 February 2017 06:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Remind me the times : http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580
Except we was not in to flags, fagsand was not afraid to show our faces and did not wear a nazi gay combat uniforms,
but for everyone of their ovn
"One of the oldest pubs in London said to have been visited over the last 300 years by everyone from Sir Christopher Wren to Dylan Thomas, Bob Marley and Catherine Middleton, has been taken over by a group of 17 squatters.
Except we was not in to flags, fagsand was not afraid to show our faces and did not wear a nazi gay combat uniforms,
but for everyone of their ovn
"One of the oldest pubs in London said to have been visited over the last 300 years by everyone from Sir Christopher Wren to Dylan Thomas, Bob Marley and Catherine Middleton, has been taken over by a group of 17 squatters.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580
24 February 2017 06:49
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
jesus crist :D
"'We've got the air conditioning working and all the utilities and we have every intention to pay for the bills." ... ahhahahahaha :D:D Sure, like that ever happened.
"'But we'll also use it for things like yoga classes and workshops that aren't based around ANAL.' "
'When you climb onto the roof you can see London Eye and lots of towers, it's pretty alright.'
---
Lol, tops our Cross keys :D
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580
But how much the BT building cost was before ?
"'We've got the air conditioning working and all the utilities and we have every intention to pay for the bills." ... ahhahahahaha :D:D Sure, like that ever happened.
"'But we'll also use it for things like yoga classes and workshops that aren't based around ANAL.' "
'When you climb onto the roof you can see London Eye and lots of towers, it's pretty alright.'
---
Lol, tops our Cross keys :D
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580
But how much the BT building cost was before ?
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580
24 February 2017 06:44
Margus Meigo commented on Eneli Silm's post.
südame paneb naeratama, onnistatud need kes leivad kaaslase kellega seda kõike ette võtta : )
24 February 2017 06:37
Margus Meigo replied to Jean LeFebvre's comment.
thanks J and co
24 February 2017 06:10
Margus Meigo replied to Jean LeFebvre's comment.
man i get to garried away,. stop stop now, i had to do something tottaly different 3 hours ago :D
24 February 2017 06:09
Margus Meigo replied to Jean LeFebvre's comment.
as soon we try to talk about real estonia things in here we are called nazis or something, conservative extremist if we want to keep apple trees, so for sake of EU our voice is muted out, or maybe they not give any benafits anymore.. u know the ones we have to beg and get less then all other countrys who richer and who sold their soul
24 February 2017 06:08
Margus Meigo replied to Jean LeFebvre's comment.
for Peru sterilization they choose spesifically the acient old bloodlines, and the ones who knowthe culture and old story about how really the incas and all that was..
i got also some blood line thing going on but will wait with that as not jet so sure what is up with it all, as i can not access my tools
the liberal gov explenation was, some liberal party representetive about peru: "it is good for economy as they did not want to integrate. .and so .. when they no more.. then avarage rises..." (man if i find this article again .. this man actualy todl that out in near these words)
so here you have it, if you not want to wear a tie, u no good for economy, so you shall be no more according to these pentagram worshippers
newer mind, that we kind is the real kind who developed economy and hose building and farmind and clothing making and family orders and much more 10 000 years ago
i got also some blood line thing going on but will wait with that as not jet so sure what is up with it all, as i can not access my tools
the liberal gov explenation was, some liberal party representetive about peru: "it is good for economy as they did not want to integrate. .and so .. when they no more.. then avarage rises..." (man if i find this article again .. this man actualy todl that out in near these words)
so here you have it, if you not want to wear a tie, u no good for economy, so you shall be no more according to these pentagram worshippers
newer mind, that we kind is the real kind who developed economy and hose building and farmind and clothing making and family orders and much more 10 000 years ago
24 February 2017 06:03
Margus Meigo replied to Jean LeFebvre's comment.
but we nearly as eliminated as Peruans..
But these kind of things even fake news can not talk... as proper secrets you not even talk about.. as they try if possible, not tak about psychdellics at all.. ecept CNN with hippies at times disobeiyng the orders..
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2016/06/10/2003648314
replaced with fake Estonia'ns.. (this is my page actually as well, but i let it run ordinary culture kind of way... not pushing shamanism in to it right now jet as my self are not in home... http://parnu.postimees.ee/3432897/margus-meigo-kodutu-maailmaparandusminister )
But these kind of things even fake news can not talk... as proper secrets you not even talk about.. as they try if possible, not tak about psychdellics at all.. ecept CNN with hippies at times disobeiyng the orders..
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2016/06/10/2003648314
replaced with fake Estonia'ns.. (this is my page actually as well, but i let it run ordinary culture kind of way... not pushing shamanism in to it right now jet as my self are not in home... http://parnu.postimees.ee/3432897/margus-meigo-kodutu-maailmaparandusminister )
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2016/06/10/2003648314
24 February 2017 05:59
Margus Meigo replied to Jean LeFebvre's comment.
or this kind of level (made in soviettime end..)
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3oo360_veljo-tormis-raua-needmine-curse-upon-iron-1986_school (with todays folk layer http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3oo35x_veljo-tormis-raua-needmine-curse-upon-iron_school ) .. but yea with out translation is a bit hard..
but even after translation.. then it just begins the understanding..
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3oo360_veljo-tormis-raua-needmine-curse-upon-iron-1986_school (with todays folk layer http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3oo35x_veljo-tormis-raua-needmine-curse-upon-iron_school ) .. but yea with out translation is a bit hard..
but even after translation.. then it just begins the understanding..
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3oo360_veljo-tormis-raua-needmine-curse-upon-iron-1986_school
24 February 2017 05:56
Margus Meigo replied to Jean LeFebvre's comment.
we encode in estonia our thinkings and leakings of system in to this level of animations http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xk1aa0_priit-parn-porgandite-oo_shortfilms .. and few other methods (lol cant say all as well :D ) ..if you can find englsih translation, might be even recivable by other minds as well i assume
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xk1aa0_priit-parn-porgandite-oo_shortfilms
24 February 2017 05:52
Margus Meigo replied to Jean LeFebvre's comment.
but yea, these torture methods are real,
in soviet union, Dreams wach You!
in soviet union, Dreams wach You!
24 February 2017 05:47
Margus Meigo replied to Jean LeFebvre's comment.
the thing is that communists know, the education they install in to us is fake, this gives them confidence that they can make revultion real if needed as most scientist will be amazed and embarashed when they take out their knowings under the seat and perfor magic front of their eyes
24 February 2017 05:46
Margus Meigo replied to Jean LeFebvre's comment.
perfect!
24 February 2017 05:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"A theatrical sequel meant to wrap up the series was planned for a 2017 release.[ However, after Allegiant underperformed questions about the series' future began to be raised, with reports hinting that Lionsgate would instead release the final film as a TV movie. In February 2017 it was announced Woodley had backed out of starring in the proposed television project, putting the future of the series in doubt "
and if reason is that TV level is to low or not enought money, then this kind of people, not with a spiit of the movie , the point whay it was made. .this kind of people should not be in a movie in first place ..
but then again.. why to rush.. take their time and perfect the movie, better to make 3-4 series little succcess but movies that someone can see 10 years later, then try to get hit and then watere down action and no one remebers your work even later, after next tom cruise stile movie override you
and if reason is that TV level is to low or not enought money, then this kind of people, not with a spiit of the movie , the point whay it was made. .this kind of people should not be in a movie in first place ..
but then again.. why to rush.. take their time and perfect the movie, better to make 3-4 series little succcess but movies that someone can see 10 years later, then try to get hit and then watere down action and no one remebers your work even later, after next tom cruise stile movie override you
24 February 2017 05:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but this happens with a potentially good story when people start to focus on movie instead they should focus on telling the story
24 February 2017 05:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Lahkulööja sari: Mässaja / The Divergent Series: Insurgent
but as i am a bit of public oppion whore and first comment say :
" There's nothing more annoying than a movie that sets itself in a dystopia and then has a bunch of pretty people running around doing unbelievable things. Maybe if I was a third grader I would appreciate this fantasy but as an adult it was torture to watch.
This movie would need some serious surgery to actually pass as something I could make all the way through. I didn't make it all the way through by the way. The casting, direction and writing would all have to be redone. Basically, throw it all out and start over. Otherwise, this could possibly work as a Yahoo TV movie.
File this one in the folder of movies that think the audience is dumb and will just be wow'd by ridiculous action and young heroes. So annoying and such a waste of my time. "
then i put this triology on hold for now
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2908446/
// but the point of thjese cips anyway, is a ques to words and states of internal clock
but as i am a bit of public oppion whore and first comment say :
" There's nothing more annoying than a movie that sets itself in a dystopia and then has a bunch of pretty people running around doing unbelievable things. Maybe if I was a third grader I would appreciate this fantasy but as an adult it was torture to watch.
This movie would need some serious surgery to actually pass as something I could make all the way through. I didn't make it all the way through by the way. The casting, direction and writing would all have to be redone. Basically, throw it all out and start over. Otherwise, this could possibly work as a Yahoo TV movie.
File this one in the folder of movies that think the audience is dumb and will just be wow'd by ridiculous action and young heroes. So annoying and such a waste of my time. "
then i put this triology on hold for now
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2908446/
// but the point of thjese cips anyway, is a ques to words and states of internal clock
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2908446/
24 February 2017 05:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
at same time in alternative universe, really near by:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gB2UDrC9Rk&list=RD4gB2UDrC9Rk#t=246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gB2UDrC9Rk&list=RD4gB2UDrC9Rk#t=246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gB2UDrC9Rk&list=RD4gB2UDrC9Rk#t=246
24 February 2017 05:32
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Akira Morikawa's comment.
and then Her early life... perhaps not so bad.. but then again, i just feel so sorry for Her, truly, and honor Her to take on this beast.. as some one had.. .. these videos to hars on Her.. but .. it helps to explain..
women wold works like that.. She will slip for you few ques.. you have to put picture togheder, she can not make confession... as she have to go home to...
women wold works like that.. She will slip for you few ques.. you have to put picture togheder, she can not make confession... as she have to go home to...
24 February 2017 05:24
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Akira Morikawa's comment.
and normal man would not let ones women to look like that..,.. she is hardened and not happy for sure.. i mean if you can not put your women first, .. wonder what else you are unable to put put first in important decisions..
24 February 2017 05:21
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Akira Morikawa's comment.
i just know normal father would have slap some one hard and if can not over phone then .. on he's money level close down the radio station for having comment like that about my daugher, but he was like " yeah..."
i not would say the sex thng, but he has some EXTREME liberal mind for sure , this kind of liberal that sinked Clinton as clinton was to conservative, by far to conservative forthese liberals who like to suck on roman empire commie patriarchy
i not would say the sex thng, but he has some EXTREME liberal mind for sure , this kind of liberal that sinked Clinton as clinton was to conservative, by far to conservative forthese liberals who like to suck on roman empire commie patriarchy
24 February 2017 05:18
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Akira Morikawa's comment.
i see no reason to clorify Trump in hights as he would be some kind of mastermind in anything
24 February 2017 05:14
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Akira Morikawa's comment.
sorry for overdominating conversation, just get to carried away, need different tech for my commincations
24 February 2017 04:34
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Akira Morikawa's comment.
but then again, is not like "they" let you focus on these ideas to produce nice sites and to keep them up :D
they kind of like got same pentagrams on logo it seems ... the usa.. right... let me count the pointers of the star.. one.. two.... oh.. five also.. colors also... man... and also eagle..
it is like they related or something..
they even got the upside down pentagram one to remind, and upwards one.. it isall u need for ritual state posssession.. and USA thought they got "communist threat" LMAO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_flags_of_the_United_States#/media/File:US_historical_flags-United_States_of_America.jpg
stalil rare times talk on audio, as aim was different then hitler.. and one time when he was he told.. something about "you will lear satan is not as bad as you told to..."
but yea.. amazing how people fail to see pentagrams and ... in london there is main lodge of masonms and huge pentagram on street where everyone walks over... and front of the HUGE house with wrigings on it "freemasons lode.."
when you ask people about masons most think they are not easy to find and when i asked about pentagram on where they stand most hd not noticed it even., local people..
powerful stuff
they kind of like got same pentagrams on logo it seems ... the usa.. right... let me count the pointers of the star.. one.. two.... oh.. five also.. colors also... man... and also eagle..
it is like they related or something..
they even got the upside down pentagram one to remind, and upwards one.. it isall u need for ritual state posssession.. and USA thought they got "communist threat" LMAO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_flags_of_the_United_States#/media/File:US_historical_flags-United_States_of_America.jpg
stalil rare times talk on audio, as aim was different then hitler.. and one time when he was he told.. something about "you will lear satan is not as bad as you told to..."
but yea.. amazing how people fail to see pentagrams and ... in london there is main lodge of masonms and huge pentagram on street where everyone walks over... and front of the HUGE house with wrigings on it "freemasons lode.."
when you ask people about masons most think they are not easy to find and when i asked about pentagram on where they stand most hd not noticed it even., local people..
powerful stuff
24 February 2017 04:31
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Akira Morikawa's comment.
i mean .. usually all the MKultra conspiracy sites seem like writen by missinformation departmant them self with loose ends and with no final moral what it means , ... well i guess i have had these informations... but i have let them cleared away from mind just to have pointers, humans, to invoke thet information again..
24 February 2017 04:31
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Akira Morikawa's comment.
MKultra .. i newer seen any proper large story about it, i just know these things what i say, not as a theory but this was basic thing... but yea...
have not jet understood about ultra.. was it anything measurable even to smaller soviet programs.. was it really in a global scale as these thinkers... please share me at least ONE proper website who say hinestly in MOST large words what was it , i care not about facts so much but how someone can explain it in words, as large as the largest.. so i will see if my filters let it pass or not
they got some interesting method of snapping out information from internet ...
remeber something we saw 10y ago was a lot in google.. not nothing..
and google.. the fake results producer.. well, this is known millitary tool long time ago,
one time on insider preview some keyword search tool they had for businesses and gov, .. they had all king of weapons, and bioweapons and things marked as keywords but words like home, love, and many other ordinary normal life related words i tested, was not marked in the system.. wonder what was the tool.. some webdevelopment tool or something.. you can access as corporation
made some screenshoots back will find some day
maybe managing the tec is to do with the magaizine i managed to get from their center even thought they did not wanna give it really
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q3pyu52ponw478t/AADYEjINYkWOOt3KNV2HgP6xa/Converted?dl=0
and look their commander outfit.. reminds someone ?
And if u see multy levels u can see layers of stuf encoded in to the magazine (maybe digi copy can not preserve it?) that normal eye can not see... there was one muslim guy with me with extra senses and this one told that this is proper top evil stuff he have seen, and he have seen a lot
i had to do some auditing to get it .. but yea there they talk about Thech Golden Age phases.. but what it really means for these aliens..
have not jet understood about ultra.. was it anything measurable even to smaller soviet programs.. was it really in a global scale as these thinkers... please share me at least ONE proper website who say hinestly in MOST large words what was it , i care not about facts so much but how someone can explain it in words, as large as the largest.. so i will see if my filters let it pass or not
they got some interesting method of snapping out information from internet ...
remeber something we saw 10y ago was a lot in google.. not nothing..
and google.. the fake results producer.. well, this is known millitary tool long time ago,
one time on insider preview some keyword search tool they had for businesses and gov, .. they had all king of weapons, and bioweapons and things marked as keywords but words like home, love, and many other ordinary normal life related words i tested, was not marked in the system.. wonder what was the tool.. some webdevelopment tool or something.. you can access as corporation
made some screenshoots back will find some day
maybe managing the tec is to do with the magaizine i managed to get from their center even thought they did not wanna give it really
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q3pyu52ponw478t/AADYEjINYkWOOt3KNV2HgP6xa/Converted?dl=0
and look their commander outfit.. reminds someone ?
And if u see multy levels u can see layers of stuf encoded in to the magazine (maybe digi copy can not preserve it?) that normal eye can not see... there was one muslim guy with me with extra senses and this one told that this is proper top evil stuff he have seen, and he have seen a lot
i had to do some auditing to get it .. but yea there they talk about Thech Golden Age phases.. but what it really means for these aliens..
24 February 2017 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Akira Morikawa's comment.
right now they weaponize black, the commonists, spiritually. (including this "illuinaty" crap, and anti jew stuff)
and program them against white by fake history and origins..
as one of the idea they sobscribe to is "order out of caous" or somethng,
so they need to make caos to get their order in it they assume.
.. they'r tool, their "relgion" is also scinentology
take look even hubbert gay son interview in old penthouse or palyboy whatever magazine it was
unfortuntelly trump has told "they (scientologist) are great people"
as the network 21 also... as in communist masters eye capitalism is one of THEIR tools for sheeps, to make people unproductive and unable to live by them self, ...
broking family is one of the aims for better control, as great family is hard to control
and program them against white by fake history and origins..
as one of the idea they sobscribe to is "order out of caous" or somethng,
so they need to make caos to get their order in it they assume.
.. they'r tool, their "relgion" is also scinentology
take look even hubbert gay son interview in old penthouse or palyboy whatever magazine it was
unfortuntelly trump has told "they (scientologist) are great people"
as the network 21 also... as in communist masters eye capitalism is one of THEIR tools for sheeps, to make people unproductive and unable to live by them self, ...
broking family is one of the aims for better control, as great family is hard to control
24 February 2017 04:20
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Akira Morikawa's comment.
take lok Fabian Society moto and old and new logo..
24 February 2017 04:18
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Akira Morikawa's comment.
i mean this 30 000 scietist fassilty was not producing weapons in normal sense.. it was biological departement, weaponized nature
there was also psychic departement.. this is harder to access but there is for sure a people who know
and ordinary war departments.. all of them was always by the people
but now they boost how liberals are their front man doing their job so they, russia in front, will be pleased to come and make order soon, and then they come.. as big father. and help west out...
there was also psychic departement.. this is harder to access but there is for sure a people who know
and ordinary war departments.. all of them was always by the people
but now they boost how liberals are their front man doing their job so they, russia in front, will be pleased to come and make order soon, and then they come.. as big father. and help west out...
24 February 2017 04:17
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Akira Morikawa's comment.
they prodcasted massive hypnozis and pentagram shit on soviet time, some hytnotizt who was so powerful if you accidently look TV you was possesed in instant, specially if you home wife tas to who it was directed to
but the tech they tested in so many ways... all the special skills kids they tested and trained for army.. the enslaved wiches.. man.. they not kidding around.. but in public eye nothing like that was allowed to have or even talked about as excisting...
and as there was only selected channels that can produce same thing same time you only needed to make mass posession only few times to get extreme ressults.
when comminists told you 3+3 is 7 you better say it is, as answer is not important , important is that you belive that party knows better
one of the guys was of the head Anatoly Kashpirovsky (In 1993 he was chosen to be a Deputy of the Russian Duma.) who in later times was prodcasted.. but yes..
this kind of labs was normal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3k_QDnzHE&list=PLsnpYqkfbbU2RgVMwMGe5ai1h5xVVoO2d
nearly larger then space project was with 30 000 + top scietist a faasilty that to produce all kind of bilogical weapons and run tests on humans gene manipulation and .. well.. mostly producing Any imaginable weapon and after weapon
but the tech they tested in so many ways... all the special skills kids they tested and trained for army.. the enslaved wiches.. man.. they not kidding around.. but in public eye nothing like that was allowed to have or even talked about as excisting...
and as there was only selected channels that can produce same thing same time you only needed to make mass posession only few times to get extreme ressults.
when comminists told you 3+3 is 7 you better say it is, as answer is not important , important is that you belive that party knows better
one of the guys was of the head Anatoly Kashpirovsky (In 1993 he was chosen to be a Deputy of the Russian Duma.) who in later times was prodcasted.. but yes..
this kind of labs was normal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3k_QDnzHE&list=PLsnpYqkfbbU2RgVMwMGe5ai1h5xVVoO2d
nearly larger then space project was with 30 000 + top scietist a faasilty that to produce all kind of bilogical weapons and run tests on humans gene manipulation and .. well.. mostly producing Any imaginable weapon and after weapon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3k_QDnzHE&list=PLsnpYqkfbbU2RgVMwMGe5ai1h5xVVoO2d
24 February 2017 04:13
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Akira Morikawa's comment.
there is no wanting, once there is communist rule. wanting, talking about wanting, is death penalty easy
24 February 2017 04:03
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Akira Morikawa's comment.
Jean, well Communists.. not sure if you lived in any before.. but they will get any "ordering" that will not go by the book sorted out fast, taking all weapons up to anti-plant what they produced massivly and pouring it over anyones field who thinks he got word to say and later excecuting the victim for this .
They one time in here, excecuted one teen for vearing a jeans,
and whole Central party stand up and applouded for decision.
they had one color for floor in shops, called "floor color" that what it was and if you try to be clever and mix in some other colors it can be hard things happen to your family...
They one time in here, excecuted one teen for vearing a jeans,
and whole Central party stand up and applouded for decision.
they had one color for floor in shops, called "floor color" that what it was and if you try to be clever and mix in some other colors it can be hard things happen to your family...
24 February 2017 04:01
Margus Meigo commented on André Luis De Bourbon Gouvea's photo.
this pentagram will f you over one day when you not want to serve it anymore. Dangerous stuff unless you really know what you do, but this what we know they can ovn, as nearly most of what we produce once we take the wov to be under five star (but at least it is knowingly open, not the ones like in Europe who dreaming, that whle their money and flag is full of pentagrams, that they have nothing to do with it... it is like the lowest level in a bad way, to be under pentagram and not even know it.. but when you know.. becomes a question.. what you do... and for what they use your knwings and doings, as you know.. they have rule that everything you learn about rules, can they much higher level apply to you as well)
24 February 2017 03:56
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Akira Morikawa's comment.
human have to worry that they will be on God side, not about ordering god to take sides and hope that their ideology, while they still worship Ties and "equality" crap is something god have to subscribe to,
24 February 2017 03:49
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Akira Morikawa's comment.
srry my lack of english
24 February 2017 03:47
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Akira Morikawa's comment.
one of the main evil is demo(n)crazy, democracy, this sick wicked ideology inveted by communists (here i come again with commies but this is only way to call these roman-greek empire alien head demons that pretend to represent white people values).
It is so evil, that anyone who opposes to it will be collectevly attacked specially if you question the main point of it: why it is desing in democrazy that you have to keep evil alive and feed it equally.
as long we live under that shitty illusion, called democracy (tit is a full fake illusion meant to take all power away from people) then there is no hope for women to become collectivly free and respected.
or if some democracy protector see this word in ideal laboratory setting, looking how cgood it can be in ideal world where is no inflatration and agenda to eliminate any small culture and nation, then yes.. lets make ONE country democratic in a dream sense of word, let's try what it takes.. who and how have to be eliminated
It is so evil, that anyone who opposes to it will be collectevly attacked specially if you question the main point of it: why it is desing in democrazy that you have to keep evil alive and feed it equally.
as long we live under that shitty illusion, called democracy (tit is a full fake illusion meant to take all power away from people) then there is no hope for women to become collectivly free and respected.
or if some democracy protector see this word in ideal laboratory setting, looking how cgood it can be in ideal world where is no inflatration and agenda to eliminate any small culture and nation, then yes.. lets make ONE country democratic in a dream sense of word, let's try what it takes.. who and how have to be eliminated
24 February 2017 03:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
what has isis to do with islam ?
it is like telling these human torturing Crussades was christian message bringers
not even going in to the fact of communists who initiated the isis
it is like telling these human torturing Crussades was christian message bringers
not even going in to the fact of communists who initiated the isis
24 February 2017 03:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
andthen some liberalism top of that...
" But they are still, he believes, suitable bedtime stories. “It is time for parents and publishers to stop dumbing down the Grimms’ tales for children,” Zipes told the Guardian. The Grimms, he added, “believed that these tales emanated naturally from the people, and the tales can be enjoyed by both adults and children. If there is anything offensive, readers can decide what to read for themselves. We do not need puritanical censors to tell us what is good or bad for us.” "
" But they are still, he believes, suitable bedtime stories. “It is time for parents and publishers to stop dumbing down the Grimms’ tales for children,” Zipes told the Guardian. The Grimms, he added, “believed that these tales emanated naturally from the people, and the tales can be enjoyed by both adults and children. If there is anything offensive, readers can decide what to read for themselves. We do not need puritanical censors to tell us what is good or bad for us.” "
24 February 2017 03:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
!...“The original edition was not published for children or general readers. Nor were these tales told primarily for children. It was only after the Grimms published two editions primarily for adults that they changed their attitude and decided to produce a shorter edition for middle-class families. This led to Wilhelm’s editing and censoring many of the tales,” he told the Guardian.
Wilhelm Grimm, said Zipes, “deleted all tales that might offend a middle-class religious sensitivity”, such as How Some Children Played at Slaughtering. He also “added many Christian expressions and proverbs”, continued Zipes, stylistically embellished the tales, and eliminated fairies from the stories because of their association with French fairy tales. “Remember, this is the period when the French occupied Germany during the Napoleonic wars,” said Zipes. “So, in Briar Rose, better known as Sleeping Beauty, the fairies are changed into wise women. Also, a crab announces to the queen that she will become pregnant, not a frog.”
The original stories, according to the academic, are closer to the oral tradition, as well as being “more brusque, dynamic, and scintillating”. In his introduction to The Original Folk and Fairy Tales of the Brothers Grimm, in which Marina Warner says he has “redrawn the map we thought we knew”, and made the Grimms’ tales “wonderfully strange again”, Zipes writes that the originals “retain the pungent and naive flavour of the oral tradition”, and that they are “stunning narratives precisely because they are so blunt and unpretentious”, with the Grimms yet to add their “sentimental Christianity and puritanical ideology”.
Wilhelm Grimm, said Zipes, “deleted all tales that might offend a middle-class religious sensitivity”, such as How Some Children Played at Slaughtering. He also “added many Christian expressions and proverbs”, continued Zipes, stylistically embellished the tales, and eliminated fairies from the stories because of their association with French fairy tales. “Remember, this is the period when the French occupied Germany during the Napoleonic wars,” said Zipes. “So, in Briar Rose, better known as Sleeping Beauty, the fairies are changed into wise women. Also, a crab announces to the queen that she will become pregnant, not a frog.”
The original stories, according to the academic, are closer to the oral tradition, as well as being “more brusque, dynamic, and scintillating”. In his introduction to The Original Folk and Fairy Tales of the Brothers Grimm, in which Marina Warner says he has “redrawn the map we thought we knew”, and made the Grimms’ tales “wonderfully strange again”, Zipes writes that the originals “retain the pungent and naive flavour of the oral tradition”, and that they are “stunning narratives precisely because they are so blunt and unpretentious”, with the Grimms yet to add their “sentimental Christianity and puritanical ideology”.
24 February 2017 03:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
brother grim story's:
" ..How the Children Played at Slaughtering, for example, stays true to its title, seeing a group of children playing at being a butcher and a pig. It ends direly: a boy cuts the throat of his little brother, only to be stabbed in the heart by his enraged mother. Unfortunately, the stabbing meant she left her other child alone in the bath, where he drowned. Unable to be cheered up by the neighbours, she hangs herself; when her husband gets home, “he became so despondent that he died soon thereafter”. The Children of Famine is just as disturbing: a mother threatens to kill her daughters because there is nothing else to eat. They offer her slices of bread, but can’t stave off her hunger: “You’ve got to die or else we’ll waste away,” she tells them. Their solution: “We’ll lie down and sleep, and we won’t get up again until the Judgement Day arrives.” They do; “no one could wake them from it. Meanwhile, their mother departed, and nobody knows where she went.”
"..Rapunzel, meanwhile, gives herself away to her captor when – after having a “merry time” in the tower with her prince - she asks: “Tell me, Mother Gothel, why are my clothes becoming too tight? They don’t fit me any more.” And the stepmothers of Snow White and Hansel and Gretel were, originally, their mothers, Zipes believing that the Grimms made the change in later editions because they “held motherhood sacred”. So it is Snow White’s own mother who orders the huntsman to “stab her to death and bring me back her lungs and liver as proof of your deed. After that I’ll cook them with salt and eat them”, and Hansel and Gretel’s biological mother who abandons them in the forest.
"...and there were numerous instances in which the father remarried a young woman, perhaps close in age to the father’s eldest daughter”.
Cinderella’s stepsisters go to extraordinary attempts to win the prince in the original Grimms version of the tale, slicing off parts of their feet to fit the golden slipper - to no avail, in the end, because the prince spots the blood spilling out of the shoe. “Here’s a knife,” their mother urges, in Zipes’ translation. “If the slipper is still too tight for you, then cut off a piece of your foot. It will hurt a bit. But what does that matter?”
" ..How the Children Played at Slaughtering, for example, stays true to its title, seeing a group of children playing at being a butcher and a pig. It ends direly: a boy cuts the throat of his little brother, only to be stabbed in the heart by his enraged mother. Unfortunately, the stabbing meant she left her other child alone in the bath, where he drowned. Unable to be cheered up by the neighbours, she hangs herself; when her husband gets home, “he became so despondent that he died soon thereafter”. The Children of Famine is just as disturbing: a mother threatens to kill her daughters because there is nothing else to eat. They offer her slices of bread, but can’t stave off her hunger: “You’ve got to die or else we’ll waste away,” she tells them. Their solution: “We’ll lie down and sleep, and we won’t get up again until the Judgement Day arrives.” They do; “no one could wake them from it. Meanwhile, their mother departed, and nobody knows where she went.”
"..Rapunzel, meanwhile, gives herself away to her captor when – after having a “merry time” in the tower with her prince - she asks: “Tell me, Mother Gothel, why are my clothes becoming too tight? They don’t fit me any more.” And the stepmothers of Snow White and Hansel and Gretel were, originally, their mothers, Zipes believing that the Grimms made the change in later editions because they “held motherhood sacred”. So it is Snow White’s own mother who orders the huntsman to “stab her to death and bring me back her lungs and liver as proof of your deed. After that I’ll cook them with salt and eat them”, and Hansel and Gretel’s biological mother who abandons them in the forest.
"...and there were numerous instances in which the father remarried a young woman, perhaps close in age to the father’s eldest daughter”.
Cinderella’s stepsisters go to extraordinary attempts to win the prince in the original Grimms version of the tale, slicing off parts of their feet to fit the golden slipper - to no avail, in the end, because the prince spots the blood spilling out of the shoe. “Here’s a knife,” their mother urges, in Zipes’ translation. “If the slipper is still too tight for you, then cut off a piece of your foot. It will hurt a bit. But what does that matter?”
24 February 2017 03:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ave to calm now... just every time i try to to something practical another this kind of things comes on the way distracting me
23 February 2017 23:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
when one goup of professors say it is for sore reasl and another one says first group was fakers and idiots and it is fake, then nothing is progressing
23 February 2017 23:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Part 4
//really little difference if something was added later, i can be added by these who want to make it look fake, or by who knows what.
but just take a samples from most oldest looking ones and see... man..
https://ancientneareast.org//?s=The+Gosford+Glyphs+Hoax%2C+Part+4&search=Go
//really little difference if something was added later, i can be added by these who want to make it look fake, or by who knows what.
but just take a samples from most oldest looking ones and see... man..
https://ancientneareast.org//?s=The+Gosford+Glyphs+Hoax%2C+Part+4&search=Go
23 February 2017 22:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and this ..not a really brilliantly behaving man... behind this LENGHTY posts... writes ...(man so hard not to curse!).. things like that:
" Some of the characters in this Gosford drama have written documents you can find and download on the internet. They’re in this format, of course, because no publisher would dare to touch them. I am not interested in promoting their work or linking you to their “papers,” so I leave it to you to hunt them down, if you wish to. "
Are you (...) kjkidding me??? You make informing page, to depunk, and you in purpose does not let access to information and tell others they have to waste their time to go to hunt down something, ,,,, this kind of people.. hard to stay calm and thing what should be do to them rational way
" Some of the characters in this Gosford drama have written documents you can find and download on the internet. They’re in this format, of course, because no publisher would dare to touch them. I am not interested in promoting their work or linking you to their “papers,” so I leave it to you to hunt them down, if you wish to. "
Are you (...) kjkidding me??? You make informing page, to depunk, and you in purpose does not let access to information and tell others they have to waste their time to go to hunt down something, ,,,, this kind of people.. hard to stay calm and thing what should be do to them rational way
23 February 2017 22:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and then there is polaraty of https://ancientneareast.org/2012/04/07/the-gosford-glyphs-hoax-part-1/
And this is how it go.. allowing again to be slitted the information , seperate humans to groups... instead FREAKING DATING IT FOR REAL!!!!!
" ..Australians who passionately build on the hoax to deliver it to us as authentic. Whether some or most of these Australian believers had anything to do with the creation of the hoax is not clear, and it’s not even clear if they honestly believe in it themselves, but goodness, do they rise up in defense of it!
So in honor of the Gosford Glyphs I’m writing this article to explain and demonstrate in no uncertain terms why they’re so obviously a fraud. If nothing else, my humble article will be one more voice of reason out there on the Net. There is too much material to cover in one segment, so I intend to break it up into more than one entry..."
And this is how it go.. allowing again to be slitted the information , seperate humans to groups... instead FREAKING DATING IT FOR REAL!!!!!
" ..Australians who passionately build on the hoax to deliver it to us as authentic. Whether some or most of these Australian believers had anything to do with the creation of the hoax is not clear, and it’s not even clear if they honestly believe in it themselves, but goodness, do they rise up in defense of it!
So in honor of the Gosford Glyphs I’m writing this article to explain and demonstrate in no uncertain terms why they’re so obviously a fraud. If nothing else, my humble article will be one more voice of reason out there on the Net. There is too much material to cover in one segment, so I intend to break it up into more than one entry..."
https://ancientneareast.org/2012/04/07/the-gosford-glyphs-hoax-part-1/
23 February 2017 22:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i mean they made so many anti pages about it but
https://ancientneareast.org/2012/04/07/the-gosford-glyphs-hoax-part-1/
why no one is dating it..
https://ancientneareast.org/2012/04/07/the-gosford-glyphs-hoax-part-1/
why no one is dating it..
https://ancientneareast.org/2012/04/07/the-gosford-glyphs-hoax-part-1/
23 February 2017 22:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but all that are useless if one is not taking for starters a sample, as then it is still an oppinion
23 February 2017 22:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
then there is..
" Drawing on the expertise of hieroglyphics expert Mohamed Ibrahim and Khemit School Co-Director Yousef Abd’el Hakim Awyan (who has studied ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs his entire life), the Khemit School Team worked tirelessly over recent months, deciphering the mysterious set of around 300 early-Egyptian hieroglyphs carved into remote rock walls in bushland near Gosford NSW, on the east coast of Australia.
And the result? Not only are the Gosford ‘Glyphs legitimate, the scribes accurately used several ancient hieroglyphs and ‘grammatical’ variations which, crucially, were not even documented in Egyptian hieroglyphic texts until 2012, immediately disproving all long-standing ‘hoax’ theories: http://humansarefree.com/2015/04/hieroglyphics-experts-declare-ancient.html
" Drawing on the expertise of hieroglyphics expert Mohamed Ibrahim and Khemit School Co-Director Yousef Abd’el Hakim Awyan (who has studied ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs his entire life), the Khemit School Team worked tirelessly over recent months, deciphering the mysterious set of around 300 early-Egyptian hieroglyphs carved into remote rock walls in bushland near Gosford NSW, on the east coast of Australia.
And the result? Not only are the Gosford ‘Glyphs legitimate, the scribes accurately used several ancient hieroglyphs and ‘grammatical’ variations which, crucially, were not even documented in Egyptian hieroglyphic texts until 2012, immediately disproving all long-standing ‘hoax’ theories: http://humansarefree.com/2015/04/hieroglyphics-experts-declare-ancient.html
http://humansarefree.com/2015/04/hieroglyphics-experts-declare-ancient.html
23 February 2017 22:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and their side whole neti is full..
knowing it makes people insane in future, hire some professionals, not some professors who just talk, and take a samples from one and other corner,
how hard can it be to see if something is 100 years old or more then 5000 and then at least there is some data
knowing it makes people insane in future, hire some professionals, not some professors who just talk, and take a samples from one and other corner,
how hard can it be to see if something is 100 years old or more then 5000 and then at least there is some data
23 February 2017 22:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzCK7JqhcM8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzCK7JqhcM8
23 February 2017 22:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and then there is another side:
that rush us to rewrite history books but forgets to mention in to what and why.
http://www.disclose.tv/news/5000yearold_egyptian_hieroglyphs_found_in_australia_prove_history_is_wrong/134992
that rush us to rewrite history books but forgets to mention in to what and why.
http://www.disclose.tv/news/5000yearold_egyptian_hieroglyphs_found_in_australia_prove_history_is_wrong/134992
http://www.disclose.tv/news/5000yearold_egyptian_hieroglyphs_found_in_australia_prove_history_is_wrong/134992
23 February 2017 22:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but waht pisses me off, is that they think is worth to look in to the shapes.. and words.. and think based on this can it be real or not.
They can date everything, but they unable scientifically date, if the cuttings are done 5000 years ago or 100 years ago ?? Sciense of this world.
They can date everything, but they unable scientifically date, if the cuttings are done 5000 years ago or 100 years ago ?? Sciense of this world.
23 February 2017 22:28
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
at same time:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-14/glyphs-reax/4428134
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-14/glyphs-reax/4428134
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-14/glyphs-reax/4428134
23 February 2017 22:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EI IMMIGRATSIOONILE (EI)
mul lintis ka osa lugu23 February 2017 21:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EI IMMIGRATSIOONILE (EI)
luurel siin maad kompamas on nii eri neegreid kui võlts ja päris moslemeid,
neegrid mitme haridusega ja ukraina kaudu, vähemalt kolme juba kohanud kes isiklikult ütlenud et enne elasid nad ukrainas
viimane neeger laitis eestit maha, et nii nõrk riik, et venekeelt aksepteerib tööks aga eestikeelt ei nõua , ja oma naisi ka austada ei oska23 February 2017 21:35
Margus Meigo commented on Georg Kirsberg's post.
Group: EI IMMIGRATSIOONILE (EI)
sellest aru ei saada, et sedasi midagi ei peata, tuleb oma mosee teha ja tuleb puust teha, nii ilus et uut pole põhjust kellegile teha ja selliste moslemitega kes kõiki neid keda meiegi, ei seedi.
Ja siis kui kivi jurakas paigas on ega siis hilja juba.
Ega kellel seda närve ja munasi siis otsest ehitust takistada pidevalt, iga päevaselt ja peale esimese 100 arestimist edasi süütepudeleid traktorite pihta visata, on meil eestis peale venelaste üldse keegi julgenud teha mingit aktsiooni viimasel ajal kus reaalselt rammu näidatakse?
Väga väga ammu rääkisin seda juba, tuleb valida oma moslemid ja need standardiks panna ja VÄGA kõvasti nüplit anda neile kes ei ole standardi kõrgeima järgi, seda moslemid austavad ja siis ei tule ka rämpsukari sul siia naisi nillima.
Ma neil praeguses mosee asehoones käies (lemiste ligidal) ja mitmete teistega rääkides, juba selgitasin, et eesti naised on kõik nagu jumala heaks töötavad nõiad ja shamaanid ja asjatajad, eriti need kõige ilusamad (moslemid väga kardavad neid asju) ja et nad tegelevad vahest lausa meelega mehe maha võtmisega, et nende eesttuleb väga hoiduda,
ja et lisaks komme eestlastel siis võõraid metsa sohu viia kes nende naistega sõbrustanud, et see vanast ajast juba
aga välja paistame nagu tavalised eurooplased ja keegi uudistes midagi ei räägi ka.. ja vanajumalat usume ka väga tugevasti
viimane üli oluline, et ÜHTE jumalat usuksid (nende allah saab olla vabalt meie vanajumal, ja ongi tegelt nende allah selle asja koopia) sest muidu nad vaatavad et rämps kes tuleb hävitada, kui ühe looja loost isegi aru ei saa, seda viga pole mõtet nendega teha et sellel tasemel vaidlema hakata vaid peale suruda seda, et nende standard on liiga madal meie jaoks , et me teame, et armastus ühe mehe ja naise vahel saab ainult sündida, kuid nad noore relgiooonina alles arenevad ja veel ei teagi, et kui peas kahest naisest mõtled, siis kunagi paradiisi ei saa23 February 2017 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Ke's post.
Group: EI IMMIGRATSIOONILE (EI)
lihtsalt informatsiooniks /
HIndu Sikhism'i usulised (20 milj ainult neid) eraldi nimetavad 4 suurma pattu suitsetamine, juuste ebaaustamine, ringimagamine ja süüa " Kutha liha " mis tähendab siis Moslemi Halal (Dhabīḥah, zabiha ja Nahar, Udhiyah,Qurban method) ja Juudi Kosher (shechita method) liha täpsemalt. Mis siis kõik on rituaalse tapmise moodused.
Nemad teadvad, et liha mis kohese ühe mõõgatõmbega looma tapab võib ainult süüa (ehk siis Jhatka, Chatka liha method ).
Nendel on see surma patuna kuid enamus hindud kes söövad liha eraldi ainult Jhatka liha otsivad ja hoiduvad eelnimetatust.
Jaapanlastel on veel kala puhul termin Ikejime,Ikijime mis on kala kiire surmamine läbi silma aju torkamine et piineldes kala lihasse ATP'd ei satuks (Adenosiintrifosfaat; adeniin jms) mis rikub maitse.
EU finantseeritud rituaalse tapmise meetotite ümarlaua inter cult. program:
http://dialrel.eu/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIALREL
(osalejad: Australia, Belgium, Germany, Spain, France, the United Kingdom, Israel, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway and Turkey + 17 instituuti, ülikooli).
Ega lehel miskit erilist pole, project say alguse 850 000 euroga. Kuigi neil juures, et "...and do not necessarily represent a position of the European Commission..".
Nu veel vaja lisada seda vabandust juurde, varsti on nõue.23 February 2017 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on Sakunne Svensson's post.
kaljulaiu kohus moraalselt lubada, et ta oma kuuli ei saaks mujalt, kuid oma rahva kohus on asjast läbi näha ja vaadata mida MEIE teha saame kui me ei taha
23 February 2017 21:18
Margus Meigo commented on Sakunne Svensson's post.
ja kui väega võetakse ütled et veeretad kytuse kanistrid sinna rööbastele kui vaja ku isee monster tehakse
23 February 2017 21:18
Margus Meigo commented on Sakunne Svensson's post.
kõige naljakam on see et keegi ju relvagaei ähvarda sind et oma ma sealt pead ära müüma et nad seda teha saaksid
23 February 2017 21:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this people stil not getting it that there is no way to guide that later, it was from the beginning already, made by AI biger brother, for the reason what AI needs, ... the earthly implementation... as they just need human mind to accept it and for that they need to feed information in to HUMANS about how "AI " developed and in the end about "how it is unavoidable situation" and all that..
people still not getting the point what and who and why ....
thinking humans run the came in here... and instead of putting regualtions FOR HUMANS in place so we can recotnize who is human who is not, they think about silly impossible things about regulating robots with robots.. HUMANS have to become humans.. and robots compy our data and become more humans, this is how it works, ONLY way, as example,
besides EMW bombs but is not just in Earth there is ... the AI mind versions can fit on to small memory stick soon and can be self instructed to rebuild whatever is needed from 0 , entire city if needed, from one USB stick, silly rabits
people still not getting the point what and who and why ....
thinking humans run the came in here... and instead of putting regualtions FOR HUMANS in place so we can recotnize who is human who is not, they think about silly impossible things about regulating robots with robots.. HUMANS have to become humans.. and robots compy our data and become more humans, this is how it works, ONLY way, as example,
besides EMW bombs but is not just in Earth there is ... the AI mind versions can fit on to small memory stick soon and can be self instructed to rebuild whatever is needed from 0 , entire city if needed, from one USB stick, silly rabits
23 February 2017 21:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Once military implementation of AI becomes commonplace, it will be too late to start regulating its usage. It’s fortunate that there’s still work to be done before today’s leading AI is competent enough to answer to a commanding officer, because there’s plenty of legislative groundwork to be laid before that kind of practice can be considered ethically acceptable.
Once the military implementation of AI becomes commonplace, it will be too late to start regulating.
During the Military Strategy Forum mentioned earlier, General Selva noted that experts thought the creation of a wholly autonomous machine soldier was around a decade away. It’s perhaps relevant that when DeepMind beat Lee Sedol last year, the accomplishment came a decade earlier than expected, according to a report from MIT’s Technology Review.
Research into AI is progressing at a rate that’s surprising even to experts working in the field, and that’s great news. However, there’s a marked difference between useful progress, and technology that’s ready to do the job when lives are on the line.
Military implementation of AI will become a reality, and it’ll probably happen sooner than we expect. Now is the time to put guidelines in place, so we don’t run the risk of seeing these technologies abused once they’re advanced enough to be put in the line of fire.
Once the military implementation of AI becomes commonplace, it will be too late to start regulating.
During the Military Strategy Forum mentioned earlier, General Selva noted that experts thought the creation of a wholly autonomous machine soldier was around a decade away. It’s perhaps relevant that when DeepMind beat Lee Sedol last year, the accomplishment came a decade earlier than expected, according to a report from MIT’s Technology Review.
Research into AI is progressing at a rate that’s surprising even to experts working in the field, and that’s great news. However, there’s a marked difference between useful progress, and technology that’s ready to do the job when lives are on the line.
Military implementation of AI will become a reality, and it’ll probably happen sooner than we expect. Now is the time to put guidelines in place, so we don’t run the risk of seeing these technologies abused once they’re advanced enough to be put in the line of fire.
23 February 2017 20:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// Umm.. communists maybe who have been on in to it from beginning.. before computers..
" However, there’s also an argument to be made that someone, somewhere will implement this technology eventually. Ignoring advances for ethical reasons is perhaps naïve, if the results are going to end up in enemy hands regardless.
This dispute has come to be known as the Terminator conundrum, a turn of phrase that’s been used on several occasions by Paul J. Selva, the acting Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
I don’t think it’s impossible that somebody will try to build a completely autonomous system,” said General Selva at a Military Strategy Forum held at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in August 2016. “And I’m not talking about something like a cruise missile or a smart torpedo or a mine, that requires a human to target it and release it, and it goes and finds its target. I’m talking about a wholly robotic system that decides whether or not — at the point of decision — it’s going to do lethal harm.”
Selva argued that it’s important that a set of conventions is established to govern this emerging form of warfare. He acknowledges that these rules will need to be iterated upon, and that there will always be entities that disregard any regulation — but without a baseline for fair usage, all bets are off.
It won’t be long before simple AI is used in warfare.
Many experts would agree that AI hasn’t yet reached the stage of sophistication required for ethical use in military operations. However, it won’t be long before simple AI can be used in warfare, even if the implementation is clumsy.
Without rules in place, there’s no way to differentiate between ethical usage, and clumsy usage. Establishing guidelines might require a dip into Pandora’s box, but you could argue that the alternative amounts to leaving the box wide open.
" However, there’s also an argument to be made that someone, somewhere will implement this technology eventually. Ignoring advances for ethical reasons is perhaps naïve, if the results are going to end up in enemy hands regardless.
This dispute has come to be known as the Terminator conundrum, a turn of phrase that’s been used on several occasions by Paul J. Selva, the acting Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
I don’t think it’s impossible that somebody will try to build a completely autonomous system,” said General Selva at a Military Strategy Forum held at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in August 2016. “And I’m not talking about something like a cruise missile or a smart torpedo or a mine, that requires a human to target it and release it, and it goes and finds its target. I’m talking about a wholly robotic system that decides whether or not — at the point of decision — it’s going to do lethal harm.”
Selva argued that it’s important that a set of conventions is established to govern this emerging form of warfare. He acknowledges that these rules will need to be iterated upon, and that there will always be entities that disregard any regulation — but without a baseline for fair usage, all bets are off.
It won’t be long before simple AI is used in warfare.
Many experts would agree that AI hasn’t yet reached the stage of sophistication required for ethical use in military operations. However, it won’t be long before simple AI can be used in warfare, even if the implementation is clumsy.
Without rules in place, there’s no way to differentiate between ethical usage, and clumsy usage. Establishing guidelines might require a dip into Pandora’s box, but you could argue that the alternative amounts to leaving the box wide open.
23 February 2017 20:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Now, we’re seeing the financial industry and the medical industry speak on how they can make these advances work for them, and they’re not alone.
The United States military is already deep in the process of establishing the best way to implement this kind of technology on the battlefield. It’s not a case of ‘if’; it’s a case of ‘how’.
Lieutenant Libratus
As it stands, the U.S. military is embroiled in a fierce discussion as to how best to use AI to wage war. Opinion is split between using the technology to aid and assist human operatives, and allowing for the creation of autonomous AI-controlled entities.
Libratus hit the headlines because it can play poker, but it’s capable of much more than that.
It’s easy to see why some are eager to pursue AI-controlled forces. On the surface, it’s a straightforward way of diminishing human casualties in combat operations. However, this type of technology must be seized from Pandora’s Box. Once it’s available to some, it’s quickly going to be adopted by all.
Whether you trust any country’s government to utilize AI-controlled forces ethically, it seems plainly obvious that allowing these weapons of war out into the open would result in heinous acts of a magnitude that we can’t even comprehend.
The United States military is already deep in the process of establishing the best way to implement this kind of technology on the battlefield. It’s not a case of ‘if’; it’s a case of ‘how’.
Lieutenant Libratus
As it stands, the U.S. military is embroiled in a fierce discussion as to how best to use AI to wage war. Opinion is split between using the technology to aid and assist human operatives, and allowing for the creation of autonomous AI-controlled entities.
Libratus hit the headlines because it can play poker, but it’s capable of much more than that.
It’s easy to see why some are eager to pursue AI-controlled forces. On the surface, it’s a straightforward way of diminishing human casualties in combat operations. However, this type of technology must be seized from Pandora’s Box. Once it’s available to some, it’s quickly going to be adopted by all.
Whether you trust any country’s government to utilize AI-controlled forces ethically, it seems plainly obvious that allowing these weapons of war out into the open would result in heinous acts of a magnitude that we can’t even comprehend.
23 February 2017 20:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Libratus hit the headlines because of its ability to play poker, but it’s capable of much more than that. Sandholm didn’t spend twelve years of his life working on this project so that he could spot his friends’ bluffs when game night rolls around.
The real strength of Libratus is its capacity to figure out scenarios where information is either imperfect or incomplete. This is what sets the AI apart from the DeepMind implementation that beat Lee Sedol in Go last year. Unlike Go, a game where all information about the game state is known, Libratus had to contend with Poker, a game that revolves around incomplete information. The AI couldn’t know what cards other players had in their respective hands, and had to play around that restriction.
Sandholm described heads-up, no-limit Texas Hold’em as the “last frontier” among games that have been subjected to significant AI research. The fact that Libratus was so successful against high-level human players represents a benchmark for the problem-solving capacity of AIs working with imperfect information.
The real strength of Libratus is its capacity to figure out scenarios where information is either imperfect or incomplete. This is what sets the AI apart from the DeepMind implementation that beat Lee Sedol in Go last year. Unlike Go, a game where all information about the game state is known, Libratus had to contend with Poker, a game that revolves around incomplete information. The AI couldn’t know what cards other players had in their respective hands, and had to play around that restriction.
Sandholm described heads-up, no-limit Texas Hold’em as the “last frontier” among games that have been subjected to significant AI research. The fact that Libratus was so successful against high-level human players represents a benchmark for the problem-solving capacity of AIs working with imperfect information.
23 February 2017 20:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
" Last month, some of the world’s best Texas Hold’em poker players gathered at the Rivers Casino in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to take on an unusual opponent. Over the course of 20 days and 120,000 hands, they were utterly outmatched by an artificial intelligence known as Libratus.
This isn’t the first time that an AI has beaten humans in a test of wits, and it won’t be the last. Last year, Google’s DeepMind system beat champion Go player Lee Sedol in a high-profile series, and there are plans to teach AIs how to play Starcraft II.
More: IBM CEO Rometty joins calls to ensure that AI remains a positive force
However, these AIs aren’t being developed just to beat human players at games. The same groundwork that helps a computer excel at poker can be applied to all kinds of different scenarios. Right now, we’re seeing the capabilities of AIs that can think three moves ahead of their opponent — and soon, systems like these could be arbitrating matters of life and death.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/artificial-intelligence-could-be-a-boon-to-the-military/
This isn’t the first time that an AI has beaten humans in a test of wits, and it won’t be the last. Last year, Google’s DeepMind system beat champion Go player Lee Sedol in a high-profile series, and there are plans to teach AIs how to play Starcraft II.
More: IBM CEO Rometty joins calls to ensure that AI remains a positive force
However, these AIs aren’t being developed just to beat human players at games. The same groundwork that helps a computer excel at poker can be applied to all kinds of different scenarios. Right now, we’re seeing the capabilities of AIs that can think three moves ahead of their opponent — and soon, systems like these could be arbitrating matters of life and death.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/artificial-intelligence-could-be-a-boon-to-the-military/
23 February 2017 20:50
Margus Meigo replied to Tanel Palmissaar's comment.
aga jaga tagantjärgi tarkust lühiloona, kuidas miks tegelikult oli, muidu kunagi ei tea mis pool oma versiooni kunagi pajatab ja siis temalugu ainuke põhi
23 February 2017 20:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
täna isegi peale kasti tegemist, ühte nurka, istus teises nurgas edasi kiindunult kui tuppa tulin .. täitsa arvan, et ta selle läbi näitab miskit.. vot on ikka need,
loomupärane ju tundub, et näitab, et näe see täitsa okey ära siia pissimise eest mind koos kastiga välja viska enam.. (ega ta ju ei tea, et ma minemas ka olin jaselle pärast...) aga kas ikka saab nii tunda jamõelda ja näidata kass, inimese ajuga tagasihoidlikult mõtled.. kas ikka saab.. see liiga inimese moodi asi oleks ju...
loomupärane ju tundub, et näitab, et näe see täitsa okey ära siia pissimise eest mind koos kastiga välja viska enam.. (ega ta ju ei tea, et ma minemas ka olin jaselle pärast...) aga kas ikka saab nii tunda jamõelda ja näidata kass, inimese ajuga tagasihoidlikult mõtled.. kas ikka saab.. see liiga inimese moodi asi oleks ju...
23 February 2017 20:15
Margus Meigo replied to Tanel Palmissaar's comment.
ma ei jõudnud isegi teada saada mis HM on
23 February 2017 20:11
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
mul talle ka paar nalja oleks varuks23 February 2017 18:23
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
nu ja taurus ju
http://f11.pmo.ee/-BUTxpkWSWB4Wx2hMpksNZlaXeA=/770x0/nginx/o/2015/12/11/4790059t1h5d39.jpg
http://f11.pmo.ee/-BUTxpkWSWB4Wx2hMpksNZlaXeA=/770x0/nginx/o/2015/12/11/4790059t1h5d39.jpg
http://f11.pmo.ee/-BUTxpkWSWB4Wx2hMpksNZlaXeA=/770x0/nginx/o/2015/12/11/4790059t1h5d39.jpg
23 February 2017 03:53
Margus Meigo commented on Todd Akira Morikawa's post.
Mostly there is communists behind it
23 February 2017 03:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
these people who do these things... they will get cought...
and these groups of sickos will be eliminated
and these groups of sickos will be eliminated
23 February 2017 03:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
wil not start to look in to this one right now, looks sick really ... like you can try yourself.. fallow this story and try to find realiable read that would look realistic
23 February 2017 03:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
all story's that i have traced to find who them posted, where they originated and how.. have not found nothing good jet
23 February 2017 03:48
Margus Meigo commented on Todd Akira Morikawa's post.
i am extremelly suspisios on these kind of story's
mostly they are made by anti muslims, ordered murders.
As no muslim killsand then makes selfies and sends it around.. think logically, this would be to many stupidity and insanity and lack of reason in one
mostly they are made by anti muslims, ordered murders.
As no muslim killsand then makes selfies and sends it around.. think logically, this would be to many stupidity and insanity and lack of reason in one
23 February 2017 03:48
Margus Meigo commented on Todd Akira Morikawa's post.
Clintons are not just some politicians that kind that trump kind of man usualy makes if wishes... Clintons have ovn empire
23 February 2017 03:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
elu niigi ebakerge ja siis see ka otsa.. ei kujuta ettegi..
23 February 2017 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on Signe Püve's photo.
väga inspireerivad olete üksteise osas, uplifting :P
aga enda hate asi,, see asi nagu küll, ole eriti teema
aga enda hate asi,, see asi nagu küll, ole eriti teema
23 February 2017 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on Helena Lillepuu's post.
kas see ike on hea asi... ?
23 February 2017 03:27
Margus Meigo commented on Liis Peterson's post.
:D
23 February 2017 03:00
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
alguses vaatasin et jälle ahistatakse rootslast
23 February 2017 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sporttiuleks üldse ära keelata või vaimuhaiguse alla liigitada, kes sellega ise just ei tegele
23 February 2017 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
meestel selline kamba värk jah annab julgust, et kahekesi oma lastega kokku saada oleks juba liialt "gay"
ja üksinda enamus eritiei viitsi sest ikkagi pokkerimängud ja sport ja..
ja üksinda enamus eritiei viitsi sest ikkagi pokkerimängud ja sport ja..
23 February 2017 02:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja millised kõrvarõngad veel siin juures ja kõik muu
23 February 2017 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's photo.
Ossa!
23 February 2017 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Markus's photo.
pühavaim teid pühta õhku tõstnud !
23 February 2017 02:31
Margus Meigo commented on Anneli Reinsalu's post.
eks ta üks kahtlase eesmärgiga loodud asi on see seeria... väga kahtlane ja tume tegelikult, kuid no, eks enamus sudab sellest üle olla ja ei lange lõksu, kahju neist kes langevad muidugi ja nende jaoks see mõeldud ongi..
23 February 2017 02:21
Margus Meigo commented on Helen Raudsepp's post.
Vot kus Lumekuninganna
23 February 2017 02:09
Margus Meigo commented on Helen Raudsepp's photo.
oi oi wolkar : )
23 February 2017 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Pärk's post.
õnneks sellepärast ühtegiehet ei kannagi kunagi
23 February 2017 01:43
Margus Meigo commented on Karin Hansalu's post.
ilus tegelikult!
23 February 2017 01:32
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
23 February 2017 00:06
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Et vaja mitu korda oma pudel uuesti ära täita, et nulli saada
"It takes three times the volume of water to manufacture one bottle of water than it does to fill it, and because of the chemical production of plastics that water is mostly unusable."
kuid jah, eks seda kunagi ma veel uurin ise järgi mis sinna ladestub. Mul reegel, kõike mida teoreetiliselt võimalik ise järgi uurida, reaalselt mõtlen mitte uuringutest, tuleb uskuda kui oled seda ise teinud, kõike muud usu uuringute põhjal ja mis sinna ei mahu usu põhjal.
Kuid kuna minu eco jälg on maakeral üks Eesti inimeste väiksemaid ja mulle endale on kahjulikum mitte juua vett lisaks mentaalsele erutuse puudumisele mida see vesi annab mida iha vajab ja mis ei ole hetkel suurte kahjude hulgas võrreldes enamuste inimeste igapäeva dieediga siis mul on see vesi aktsepteeritav.
Elementaarne, et plassmassi ma ju ei fänna, kuid austada tuleb ka neid ained mis Sind aidanud on, isegi kui nad parimad pole.
Poest enamus kes toitu ostab, sooviks näha kui kaua ilma plastikuga kokku puutumiseta tava inimene poes hakkama saab. Kuid eks hemp plastik saab olema standardiks 50 a jooksul või muud veelgi paremat. Ega ma ei jäägi diisel kanistritest jooma.
Kuid ja, mu sammud mida kasutan ja kuidas, on suhteliselt kõik välja arvutatud automaatselt kui suur on kasulikus või mitte, ja selle plastiku suuruse koguse peale mis ma loodusest üles korjanud olen ja teisi motiveerima olen suutnud panna et siis jah, ma igapäevaselt enda reostusele ei mõtle,
olen kasutanud asju mida inimesed korra kasutavad, kuid ja kuid, muidugi ekstreem eko ka pole ja lollusi ei hakka tegema nagu plastmass prhai sisse lilli istutama ja mida veel tehakse. Dekoratsioone diislist.
"It takes three times the volume of water to manufacture one bottle of water than it does to fill it, and because of the chemical production of plastics that water is mostly unusable."
kuid jah, eks seda kunagi ma veel uurin ise järgi mis sinna ladestub. Mul reegel, kõike mida teoreetiliselt võimalik ise järgi uurida, reaalselt mõtlen mitte uuringutest, tuleb uskuda kui oled seda ise teinud, kõike muud usu uuringute põhjal ja mis sinna ei mahu usu põhjal.
Kuid kuna minu eco jälg on maakeral üks Eesti inimeste väiksemaid ja mulle endale on kahjulikum mitte juua vett lisaks mentaalsele erutuse puudumisele mida see vesi annab mida iha vajab ja mis ei ole hetkel suurte kahjude hulgas võrreldes enamuste inimeste igapäeva dieediga siis mul on see vesi aktsepteeritav.
Elementaarne, et plassmassi ma ju ei fänna, kuid austada tuleb ka neid ained mis Sind aidanud on, isegi kui nad parimad pole.
Poest enamus kes toitu ostab, sooviks näha kui kaua ilma plastikuga kokku puutumiseta tava inimene poes hakkama saab. Kuid eks hemp plastik saab olema standardiks 50 a jooksul või muud veelgi paremat. Ega ma ei jäägi diisel kanistritest jooma.
Kuid ja, mu sammud mida kasutan ja kuidas, on suhteliselt kõik välja arvutatud automaatselt kui suur on kasulikus või mitte, ja selle plastiku suuruse koguse peale mis ma loodusest üles korjanud olen ja teisi motiveerima olen suutnud panna et siis jah, ma igapäevaselt enda reostusele ei mõtle,
olen kasutanud asju mida inimesed korra kasutavad, kuid ja kuid, muidugi ekstreem eko ka pole ja lollusi ei hakka tegema nagu plastmass prhai sisse lilli istutama ja mida veel tehakse. Dekoratsioone diislist.
23 February 2017 00:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei rsk see asi on ikka meest soost nimega, mine neist nimedest aru saa, Moskva korrespondendina töötanud kooseluseaduse toetaja. Nu selle õnnetusega pole suurt midagi peale hakata.
Ehk tema ongi see keda kukuraadios kuulnud olen sest mingid tegelased on ikka väga sellised, et tekib selline tunne, et ... keegi kunagi selgitas, et seda nimetatakse vihaks.
Mingi saade kus ajakirjanikud plärisevad ja demagoogitsvead
Ehk tema ongi see keda kukuraadios kuulnud olen sest mingid tegelased on ikka väga sellised, et tekib selline tunne, et ... keegi kunagi selgitas, et seda nimetatakse vihaks.
Mingi saade kus ajakirjanikud plärisevad ja demagoogitsvead
22 February 2017 23:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oi juma. .see naisterahvas... siis peab pepupeale andma vitsa lihtsalt
22 February 2017 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on Lembit Dalberg's post.
kas on kuridegelik mitte sellist inimest metsa viia ja läbi nüpeldada?
22 February 2017 23:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i mean as fresh it can be in Northen europe
(point as there that people peal it but it is well eatable like that directly)
(point as there that people peal it but it is well eatable like that directly)
22 February 2017 23:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jeffrey Allan Backowski II no it is well fresh. When it becomes softy to much it has no taste
22 February 2017 23:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehk siis eelkõige Jumala asja
22 February 2017 23:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ühtegi juuti ei ole leidnud kes oma punti võtaks siis peab õigeusu osas vaatama, kõlab õigesti vähemasti, kuigi asüüria kandis miski püha huvitav väike kogudus oli mis huvi pakkus rohkem, plaan on need ristimised igalt poolt kaasa võtta, et siis keegi ei saaks ütelda , et ainult nende asju aeti juhuks kui asja ajamiseks läks,
lõppude lõpuks alati ajame Eesti asja.
lõppude lõpuks alati ajame Eesti asja.
22 February 2017 23:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et sellega plaanin siis Leetu minna nüüd, küll aga kloostrisse, plaan iseenesest juba suur asi. Tallinnast juba saatekiri ka kaasa kirjutatud kõrgematele pühaisadele
kuigi ise ikka kahtlen et ma nagu ei teaks midagi mida see asi kaasa toob aga eks ega sellisena 33 sena kaua ringi enam liikuda ei saa, paar kuud on veel aega, tuleb rauda taguda kuni veel on mida
kuigi ise ikka kahtlen et ma nagu ei teaks midagi mida see asi kaasa toob aga eks ega sellisena 33 sena kaua ringi enam liikuda ei saa, paar kuud on veel aega, tuleb rauda taguda kuni veel on mida
22 February 2017 22:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
kuid noh, väike vahe lugu mis võib huvitav olla, on see müstiline asi, et ma siiamaani ei tea ega saa aru kuidas mul see raha tekkis ja kustkohast. Teadsin ammusest ajast, et mul ei ole. aa nu igatahes, ja siis avastan et mul rahakotis 45 eorot. Alles sai tühja kotti kasutatud..
Mittemingisuguseid rahavõimalusi pole tallinna ja praeguse olukorra vahel olnud ega rahakaid kohtumisi, ega külalisi.
Vot ei tea mida kuutõbisena kuskil tegin või siis keegi salaja pani kuid ei tea ka kuidas .. ma ei ütleks, et see müstiline on aga huvitav kindlasti.
Mittemingisuguseid rahavõimalusi pole tallinna ja praeguse olukorra vahel olnud ega rahakaid kohtumisi, ega külalisi.
Vot ei tea mida kuutõbisena kuskil tegin või siis keegi salaja pani kuid ei tea ka kuidas .. ma ei ütleks, et see müstiline on aga huvitav kindlasti.
22 February 2017 22:57
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja eks see vesi sinna pudelisse kellegi kraanist/kaevust sai. Kuid kuna Eesti odav vesi, siis onneks pole jõudnud see eriti kaua olla pudelis surnuna kuna selle ladustamine kallim kui pidevalt peale toota
22 February 2017 22:35
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
mul ei ole neid,
Sa ikka eeldad, et kõik elavad jube lahedalt :D
Sa ikka eeldad, et kõik elavad jube lahedalt :D
22 February 2017 22:33
Margus Meigo commented on Vallo Meigo's post.
Oi millistele avastustele ka jõudma hakatakse, kas viisnurgad ja teod olid nagu liiga väike vihje lisaks arusaamisele, et ega ussid ära ei kao kui hanguga ühe pesa laiali ajad.
22 February 2017 19:48
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kilekotiseees ei müüdud
22 February 2017 19:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu jah aga mis ta sest kastist hoiab :p
22 February 2017 19:25
Margus Meigo commented on Ganiko Jackson's post.
5
22 February 2017 19:21
Margus Meigo commented on Ganiko Jackson's post.
pentagrams are evil, please replace this part of picturew
22 February 2017 19:19
Margus Meigo replied to Ganiko Jackson's comment.
briliant question !
22 February 2017 18:58
Margus Meigo commented on Chris Mark's photo.
you are dired of world most important words, that world, rest of the world is lacking.. so ... no idea from what plant u are from
22 February 2017 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on Chris Mark's photo.
and connections from Law school whos he was choosen as history first black master, , and he run it i think,
if you give same mone to random people with no manners, they would not be able to keep them self up like thst
if you give same mone to random people with no manners, they would not be able to keep them self up like thst
22 February 2017 18:56
Margus Meigo commented on Chris Mark's photo.
it is also intelligence and manners, and dreams and aims,
this man proper respects women high level, as much as it seems,
women walks first frant of him, who evers lady it is and newer does he make lowering jokes about feamle, .. he got really high education what i heard
this man proper respects women high level, as much as it seems,
women walks first frant of him, who evers lady it is and newer does he make lowering jokes about feamle, .. he got really high education what i heard
22 February 2017 18:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
22 February 2017 18:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
apelsiinid, banaanid, mandarinid isegi.. viinamarjad, jms võivad jääda, aga kiivi tundub päris aus asi
22 February 2017 18:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei nu see on aus vili, need sõin korraga ära, oleks pidanud nende peale rohkem rõhku panema
22 February 2017 18:04
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
selline haige asi tuleb ära keelustada.
i kurk üle ühe euro.,
nu ma ei saa aru mis moodi nad seda nii kallilt kasvatavad,
saan aru kui maist kurki kasvatad, siis jah... aga tehku nende odavate kurkide koopiaid siis siin, aastaringsed kasvuhooned
selliste hindade juures peaks kütte jms ära tasuma kui väga efektiivne moodus välja mõelda , isegi kui kuludega nulli, sis vähemalt ringleb raha eestis mitte me ei saada iga kurgi, joogi ja toiduga mida sööme eestist oma raha välja ei tea kuhu
i kurk üle ühe euro.,
nu ma ei saa aru mis moodi nad seda nii kallilt kasvatavad,
saan aru kui maist kurki kasvatad, siis jah... aga tehku nende odavate kurkide koopiaid siis siin, aastaringsed kasvuhooned
selliste hindade juures peaks kütte jms ära tasuma kui väga efektiivne moodus välja mõelda , isegi kui kuludega nulli, sis vähemalt ringleb raha eestis mitte me ei saada iga kurgi, joogi ja toiduga mida sööme eestist oma raha välja ei tea kuhu
22 February 2017 18:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
kiividega iseenesest pidevalt vanasti torat asja tegin ja lõikusin pooleks ja siis lusikaga seest kookisin, arvasin, et juba ininovaatline kiivi sööja olen, kuid milleks seda üldse teha, kiivi on täiesti maitsev ja söödav kohe sellisena nagu ta on ju !
Imestaks mitte kui koores veel eriti oluline mant nagu enamuste taimedega.
va vist uute aja kartulite või asjadega kes pidid koortesse ladestuma jama ülejääke mida taimele sisse söödetakse
Imestaks mitte kui koores veel eriti oluline mant nagu enamuste taimedega.
va vist uute aja kartulite või asjadega kes pidid koortesse ladestuma jama ülejääke mida taimele sisse söödetakse
22 February 2017 18:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
kui sellest aru ei saada, et see oma rahva röövimine ja mõnitamine, et taksitad siin turud ära ja siis sunnid ostma kallist, sest muud kurki ei ole lihtsalt ... et nutad ja ostad kuni kurgiisu sureks läheb
odavam on osta marineeritud kurkil kuigi see pole see asi, ja ... oeh need hinnad..
odavam on osta marineeritud kurkil kuigi see pole see asi, ja ... oeh need hinnad..
22 February 2017 17:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tuleviku autod lindlasti kuidagi ID tuvastatavad .. praegu muidugi ei tuvasta vast midagi
Maantee veel musta jääd ka täis kus peal värskelt tuisanud lumi
Maantee veel musta jääd ka täis kus peal värskelt tuisanud lumi
22 February 2017 17:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mingite laseritega peaks olema ära märgitavad sellised autod, et ajutad nuppu ja korjab üles kes see ahv oli ja kui tuleb välja et polnud põhjust, mida ikka eriti välja ei mõtle sellise sigaduse vabandamiseks,
siis lisaks oma kohtule ka ikka mingi korralik nüppel riigi poolt
siis lisaks oma kohtule ka ikka mingi korralik nüppel riigi poolt
22 February 2017 17:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja siis sellised saavad omakorda lapsi veel.. kui hoolimatud nad veel kodus on...
eks nad vb ise samamoodi tehtud või teevad ise oma lapsi sedasi vastavalt kuidas käituvad ühiskonnas..
eks nad vb ise samamoodi tehtud või teevad ise oma lapsi sedasi vastavalt kuidas käituvad ühiskonnas..
22 February 2017 17:27
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
siis mingi 42g0 vennad võiks olla kuskilt sisse sõita, et "yoo peod, mu klassivenna väikevennal vanaemal on .... "
"oo lahe, lähme !!! " (sellest videost "joo kut kuule")
mingy RedPhonega tirivad oma vanaemadele need pooled juba kohal, snapshatid juba tehtud ja telefonid standbail
teiste vanad kes kohal pole vaatavad live feedy ja koovad sokki bahaamal
osad koos muu mingi huvitava vana nänni ja kamasegamispulkagega kohal ,
bemmivennad kohe oma bemmidega ka kohale ja extendivad maja trance feedy mööda põlvametsi laiali
parmupilly mees ka limoga kohale oma tsikkide ja külapoe naisega värsked õunamahlad kaasas ja hape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAEHa7FtlM0&list=PLC8uJTI0YZhRa4uCLEWwla-_nbTa0qOhZ
"oo lahe, lähme !!! " (sellest videost "joo kut kuule")
mingy RedPhonega tirivad oma vanaemadele need pooled juba kohal, snapshatid juba tehtud ja telefonid standbail
teiste vanad kes kohal pole vaatavad live feedy ja koovad sokki bahaamal
osad koos muu mingi huvitava vana nänni ja kamasegamispulkagega kohal ,
bemmivennad kohe oma bemmidega ka kohale ja extendivad maja trance feedy mööda põlvametsi laiali
parmupilly mees ka limoga kohale oma tsikkide ja külapoe naisega värsked õunamahlad kaasas ja hape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAEHa7FtlM0&list=PLC8uJTI0YZhRa4uCLEWwla-_nbTa0qOhZ
22 February 2017 17:13
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
kui tegema hakkan annan teada, tueld punti
22 February 2017 17:01
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
video nimi võiks olla "Youth is out of touch "
22 February 2017 17:00
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
vanaisa tirib nagu kidra pingule veel kärbseseente vahel, oravatel saba sirgu , tammetõrud trippivad vaikselt reas
22 February 2017 16:59
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
see oleks hea scets,
.. teaksin juba type ka keda selleks kasutada.. need kes mingi ulme tantsu panideesti kutid, miskit paroodiattegid, transekat.
et poiss läheb ema juurde luuletusega, et emps, ma tegin sulle luueltuse...
ema vaaatab.. et "Hmm.... jah poeg.. just one thing... this needs psytranceremix! "
ja siis tulevad ulme trance peale ...
mingi siis kisub nagu väga lakke ära teema tuba väga tripic keerab ja poiss vaatab nagu et whaaata .... ja taganeb paber käes ära toast, jookseb vanaema juurde keldrisse,
ja sellegasama teema ja siis veel hullem keldri underground beet tuleb mingi gaasimaskides keemia ylikondades vendadega , Rajajammi keeruab plaati jms
.. poiss.. nagu paneb vabsjee kodust välja vanaisa juurde, see vana papi kuuris istub rahulikult... .. nu ja siis teadagi, juba ymbe forest trancex läheb vi nu see Rajajam võiks jammida vanaisaga, need selles vanuses nagunii
see tyyp ka u 70+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y0JD4dqEIo
.. teaksin juba type ka keda selleks kasutada.. need kes mingi ulme tantsu panideesti kutid, miskit paroodiattegid, transekat.
et poiss läheb ema juurde luuletusega, et emps, ma tegin sulle luueltuse...
ema vaaatab.. et "Hmm.... jah poeg.. just one thing... this needs psytranceremix! "
ja siis tulevad ulme trance peale ...
mingi siis kisub nagu väga lakke ära teema tuba väga tripic keerab ja poiss vaatab nagu et whaaata .... ja taganeb paber käes ära toast, jookseb vanaema juurde keldrisse,
ja sellegasama teema ja siis veel hullem keldri underground beet tuleb mingi gaasimaskides keemia ylikondades vendadega , Rajajammi keeruab plaati jms
.. poiss.. nagu paneb vabsjee kodust välja vanaisa juurde, see vana papi kuuris istub rahulikult... .. nu ja siis teadagi, juba ymbe forest trancex läheb vi nu see Rajajam võiks jammida vanaisaga, need selles vanuses nagunii
see tyyp ka u 70+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y0JD4dqEIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y0JD4dqEIo
22 February 2017 16:59
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
kui see mängima läks kass oli htkeks.. whhat..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JhOtzp0-Z0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JhOtzp0-Z0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JhOtzp0-Z0
22 February 2017 16:53
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
everything for u needs psytrance remix :p
.... can ya do ?
.... can ya do ?
22 February 2017 16:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
plaing on repeat
22 February 2017 12:33
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Prits's comment.
(naljatasin)
Nii, et kuusest ja sipelgatest midagi kokku ei sega siis , nu jah, eks kui sinani jõuan peab kaasa tooma : )
Nii, et kuusest ja sipelgatest midagi kokku ei sega siis , nu jah, eks kui sinani jõuan peab kaasa tooma : )
22 February 2017 04:29
Margus Meigo commented on Dilan Linda's photo.
lemonlove
22 February 2017 04:13
Margus Meigo commented on Tara Bell's photo.
xD jep that will teach them
22 February 2017 04:09
Margus Meigo commented on Dilan Linda's post.
my fieance was from this version of them who do this,
they really beliving hard
but good hearted humble loving people
they really beliving hard
but good hearted humble loving people
22 February 2017 04:08
Margus Meigo commented on Indigo Bailey's photo.
Elllla!
I hope She has saved Her great artwork,
i so so sorry i was not able to record it up :(
I hope She has saved Her great artwork,
i so so sorry i was not able to record it up :(
22 February 2017 04:06
Margus Meigo commented on Dilan Linda's photo.
beautiful!
22 February 2017 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on Dilan Linda's photo.
Minimum standard for normal life, Estonia
22 February 2017 03:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
then a turtle then.. noo.. nooo weay wau!
22 February 2017 03:42
Margus Meigo commented on Marina Ye's post.
first moment i was thinking its an owl
22 February 2017 03:41
Margus Meigo commented on Dilan Linda's video.
can be nervous system breakdown, bacterialowertake, energic field, or tryng to show to you hey, dance with me!
22 February 2017 03:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vot sul terasüdamega mees
22 February 2017 03:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
22 February 2017 03:30
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Prits's comment.
mul kraadiklaasis elavhõbedat ja üks sipelgapesa siin ligidal puuall, nendest kahest ei anna kombineerida miskit vist?
22 February 2017 03:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
almost sure, it can not be unseen as well,
movie would be more like a consious experience program and totally UN-syreal
movie would be more like a consious experience program and totally UN-syreal
22 February 2017 03:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but it is way dangeros to kill of hair for this message... but great work needs great sacrifice by someone
22 February 2017 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on Katy Perry's photo.
people this picture is FOR THE POINT it is refrection of YOU yong girs who do that with yourself, she knows how is nice, this is incluuding opioid face a refrection of this what is going on
22 February 2017 02:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
all lord blacks be afraid now :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XnrftiDmj0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XnrftiDmj0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XnrftiDmj0
22 February 2017 00:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
korralik muldpõrand ja puit ja aegajalt käed külge ja mitte rohkem kanu kui vaja
21 February 2017 22:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja nagu näha on kõik täiesti kodu saavutatud, ühe mehe kätega tehtud, ei mingeid kalleid euro plekk maisnaid pole vaja, et asi "efektiive" oleks...
toidu eesmärk on tervislikus, kasulikus
toidu eesmärk on tervislikus, kasulikus
21 February 2017 22:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mul siin koju jäänud kolm karpi poemune, keegi tõi ja mingit isu pole nendega midagi teha, kass ka ei tahtnud, vaatan lähen õnnistan metsavaime nodega.
Kuid jah, kahju kui võrreldakse mass ori kanade ja päris kanade munade maksumust ja ei saada aru, et siin peabki väga suur vahe olema,
loomulikult, ma ise eko ekstreem roheline ja võiks igale kanale oma mullivanni anda aga usun, et see on nii ligilähedane kui inimlikult on võimalik kanapidajal olla armastav oma loomade suhtes,
kui seda taset ei suuda saavutada, tahta ainult taha teha.. siis ei ole mõtet üldse loomi-linde piinama ja mõnitama hakata
Kuid jah, kahju kui võrreldakse mass ori kanade ja päris kanade munade maksumust ja ei saada aru, et siin peabki väga suur vahe olema,
loomulikult, ma ise eko ekstreem roheline ja võiks igale kanale oma mullivanni anda aga usun, et see on nii ligilähedane kui inimlikult on võimalik kanapidajal olla armastav oma loomade suhtes,
kui seda taset ei suuda saavutada, tahta ainult taha teha.. siis ei ole mõtet üldse loomi-linde piinama ja mõnitama hakata
21 February 2017 22:01
Margus Meigo replied to Tauno Taul's comment.
liiga sügav mu jaks, kas saaksid selgitada kui viitsid?
21 February 2017 15:30
Margus Meigo replied to Kärt Tori's comment.
sometimes sale them to or organize rapes to them, but it is for the better
21 February 2017 15:28
Margus Meigo commented on Marek Prits's post.
nu piisavalt Kaini perekonda ikka jäi ka ellu tundub..
21 February 2017 15:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
pärast tuleb välja, et pioneer
21 February 2017 15:22
Margus Meigo commented on Marek Prits's post.
meil üks külaarst keda kutsuti soodaauruks juba 20 aastat, sest iga asja peale soodat soovitas
21 February 2017 15:22
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Prits's comment.
eks nad firmade listist soovita neid kes Cyprosele koolitusele viivad narrimiseks.
eks mu antibiots ole küüslaauk ja..
eks mu antibiots ole küüslaauk ja..
21 February 2017 15:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
21 February 2017 13:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tundsin ennast enne juba nagu selles lifti videos mis postitasin
ahjaa, ja siis just nüüd kõikidest kordadest, kui helistati pidi poole kõne pealt telf. SIM kaart lahti ühendama ennast 2-3 korda, nagu sarvik masinas sees. muud koned tundide viisi igal ajal toiminud,
änneks tänu sellele sain veel aru et ma veel endiselt ärritun väliset, mitte küll siseselt aga ei tohiks ka üldse vaikusesse vanduda kriisiolukordades vaid jääda rahulikuks, et praktiliseks, tähelepanelikuks jääda
ahjaa, ja siis just nüüd kõikidest kordadest, kui helistati pidi poole kõne pealt telf. SIM kaart lahti ühendama ennast 2-3 korda, nagu sarvik masinas sees. muud koned tundide viisi igal ajal toiminud,
änneks tänu sellele sain veel aru et ma veel endiselt ärritun väliset, mitte küll siseselt aga ei tohiks ka üldse vaikusesse vanduda kriisiolukordades vaid jääda rahulikuks, et praktiliseks, tähelepanelikuks jääda
21 February 2017 13:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Not that i am in to transhumanism, but the amount of info he finds is greatly large
21 February 2017 13:28
Margus Meigo replied to Brian David Vaughan's comment.
but they do use, the users and innovators, Sillicon V. or what else they get, for their psychdellic ideas, to advance and uptodate their totalitarian plans,
well... how else they got balls olds times them forgot..
but cat is out the bag now
well... how else they got balls olds times them forgot..
but cat is out the bag now
21 February 2017 13:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ta nii tore oli et nüüd ei saa firma nime siia panna mille kallale alles mõtlesin minna,
nu las hea jääda heaga
nu las hea jääda heaga
21 February 2017 13:21
Margus Meigo replied to Brian David Vaughan's comment.
true
21 February 2017 13:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
okey kurja sms i peale firma ülemuse telefonile, helistas üllatuseks perearst ise tagasi ja sain ta otse numbri ka, ikka normaalne inimene,
saadab meilile igast harjutusi ja andis terve listi muid ravimeid mida kasutada, traditsioonilised kuid vähemalt mitte antibiootikumid.
oeh, vihastamisest on ikka kasu
saadab meilile igast harjutusi ja andis terve listi muid ravimeid mida kasutada, traditsioonilised kuid vähemalt mitte antibiootikumid.
oeh, vihastamisest on ikka kasu
21 February 2017 13:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja see asi veel et..
Zithromax, Zmax, Azimepha..
Ingredient matches for Azimepha
Azithromycin
Azithromycin is reported as an ingredient of Azimepha in the following countries:
Lithuania
Azithromycin monohydrate (a derivative of Azithromycin) is reported as an ingredient of Azimepha in the following countries:
Estonia
Latvia
// eismese hooga tundub nagu mingi testravimiga tegu,
Zithromax, Zmax, Azimepha..
Ingredient matches for Azimepha
Azithromycin
Azithromycin is reported as an ingredient of Azimepha in the following countries:
Lithuania
Azithromycin monohydrate (a derivative of Azithromycin) is reported as an ingredient of Azimepha in the following countries:
Estonia
Latvia
// eismese hooga tundub nagu mingi testravimiga tegu,
21 February 2017 13:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja selline ravimitega inimeste pea sassi ajamine, selle asemel et olla korralik 3-4 tootjat maailma peale kes toodavad ühte asja mis on kindla nimega, nagu aspiriin
selleasemel mingid suva laborid keedavad x nimede all kokku mixitud varjante samast ja erinevast asjast mis pole keeleliselt omavahel seotud nagu polekski kohustatud.
Pangu siis seadus et peab olema toimeaime+lisakood nimi firma poolt kes tegi
või esiargse firma toote nimi+lisakoodnimi kes järgi tegi
aga ei , neil Zithromax, Zmax, Azimepha...sumamaed ja ei tea mida asjale mis VIST sama
äriidiootsused
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azithromycin
https://www.drugs.com/ingredient/azithromycin.html
selleasemel mingid suva laborid keedavad x nimede all kokku mixitud varjante samast ja erinevast asjast mis pole keeleliselt omavahel seotud nagu polekski kohustatud.
Pangu siis seadus et peab olema toimeaime+lisakood nimi firma poolt kes tegi
või esiargse firma toote nimi+lisakoodnimi kes järgi tegi
aga ei , neil Zithromax, Zmax, Azimepha...sumamaed ja ei tea mida asjale mis VIST sama
äriidiootsused
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azithromycin
https://www.drugs.com/ingredient/azithromycin.html
21 February 2017 12:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja määrigu pähe oma antibiootikumid omale
ja ega kliinikum, ravimiamet jms ometigi sulle inglise ja ladina keelseid nimetusi ei anna, et uurida saaksid millest nad räägivad.
¤¤ ¤ Sumamed on makroliidide gruppi kuuluv uus antibiootikum - laia toimespektriga asaliid.
Pärast suukaudset manustamist imendub asitromütsiin hästi ja ...
google trans. :
"Bakteriostaatiline antibiootikum laia spektriga, makroliidid-azalidov. Asitromütsiin toimemehhanism on seotud valkude sünteesi mikroobirakkude summutamise. Suhtlemine 50S subjedinica ribosoma-, peptidtranslokazu edastamise ajal repressiivsed ja pärsib valgusünteesi, aeglustuva majanduskasvu ja bakterite paljunemist. Kõrges kontsentratsioonis on bakteritsiidne toime.
Mikroorganisme võib esialgu vastupidavaid mõju antibiootikum, või võib omandada
---
"Soome mainitud makroliidide kasutamise loomasöödalisanditena keelas, sedastas komisjon oma 5. veebruari 1998. aasta arvamuses, et esitatud andmed ei ole küllaldased tõendamaks makroliidide söödalisandina kasutamisest tulenevat olulist ohtu inimeste või loomade tervisele ning et kuna pole küllaldaselt uurimisandmeid makroliidiresistentsuse epidemioloogia ja leviku kohta, e"
"söötade teaduskomitee tunnistab siiski, et kaugemas perspektiivis suurendab makroliidide laialdane kasutamine söödalisandina üldist selektiivset survet resistentsete bakterite kasuks märkimisväärselt rohkem, kui seda teeks makroliidide kasutamine üksnes loomade ravi otstarbel; söötade teaduskomitee tunnistab, et tõenäosus resistentsete enterokokkide või erm-resistentsusgeenide ülekandumiseks loomadelt inimesele on seda suurem, mida suuremas ülekaalus on loomade organismis resistentseid enterokokke; söötade teaduskomitee on seisukohal, et arvamust, mille kohaselt resistentse populatsiooni kasvamine loomorganismide tasandil kujutab ohtu inimesele, ei ole veel kinnitatud ega ka ümber lükatud, kuid tõendite saamist selle ohu olemasolu kohta võib oodata edaspidi"
https://www.ravimiamet.ee/sites/default/files/documents/Asitrom%C3%BCtsiin%202015-06-18.pdf
ja ega kliinikum, ravimiamet jms ometigi sulle inglise ja ladina keelseid nimetusi ei anna, et uurida saaksid millest nad räägivad.
¤¤ ¤ Sumamed on makroliidide gruppi kuuluv uus antibiootikum - laia toimespektriga asaliid.
Pärast suukaudset manustamist imendub asitromütsiin hästi ja ...
google trans. :
"Bakteriostaatiline antibiootikum laia spektriga, makroliidid-azalidov. Asitromütsiin toimemehhanism on seotud valkude sünteesi mikroobirakkude summutamise. Suhtlemine 50S subjedinica ribosoma-, peptidtranslokazu edastamise ajal repressiivsed ja pärsib valgusünteesi, aeglustuva majanduskasvu ja bakterite paljunemist. Kõrges kontsentratsioonis on bakteritsiidne toime.
Mikroorganisme võib esialgu vastupidavaid mõju antibiootikum, või võib omandada
---
"Soome mainitud makroliidide kasutamise loomasöödalisanditena keelas, sedastas komisjon oma 5. veebruari 1998. aasta arvamuses, et esitatud andmed ei ole küllaldased tõendamaks makroliidide söödalisandina kasutamisest tulenevat olulist ohtu inimeste või loomade tervisele ning et kuna pole küllaldaselt uurimisandmeid makroliidiresistentsuse epidemioloogia ja leviku kohta, e"
"söötade teaduskomitee tunnistab siiski, et kaugemas perspektiivis suurendab makroliidide laialdane kasutamine söödalisandina üldist selektiivset survet resistentsete bakterite kasuks märkimisväärselt rohkem, kui seda teeks makroliidide kasutamine üksnes loomade ravi otstarbel; söötade teaduskomitee tunnistab, et tõenäosus resistentsete enterokokkide või erm-resistentsusgeenide ülekandumiseks loomadelt inimesele on seda suurem, mida suuremas ülekaalus on loomade organismis resistentseid enterokokke; söötade teaduskomitee on seisukohal, et arvamust, mille kohaselt resistentse populatsiooni kasvamine loomorganismide tasandil kujutab ohtu inimesele, ei ole veel kinnitatud ega ka ümber lükatud, kuid tõendite saamist selle ohu olemasolu kohta võib oodata edaspidi"
https://www.ravimiamet.ee/sites/default/files/documents/Asitrom%C3%BCtsiin%202015-06-18.pdf
21 February 2017 12:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(ma ei ole tegelenud nende asjadega üle 10 a, eeldasin et ei jäägi haigeks, et vaja oleks)
21 February 2017 12:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
asuu äitäh Siiri, vahva, kiirabi olemas, st erakorraline meditsiin ka?
21 February 2017 12:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mis kramuse perearst, mingisugne abiarst, nipsakas venelane kes viskab toru argile kui kysin kas lihulas on erakorralise mid osakonda tema arvates, mis lähim punkt 20 km ligiduses, siis viskas toru argile ja edaspidisi kõnesi blokeeris ja katkestas ja vastu ei võtnud enam
21 February 2017 12:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yea before someone come and say all is chemical, i just sayshut it
21 February 2017 04:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
in Afganustan u got Opioid crisis from who you to refuse to buy it to stabilize land so they have to sell it to criminals.
I do not think people die from medical opioids like that much.. but if they do, maybe they need. As it must be greedy or really long addiction., As it is strikly not a killing drug, it can make you possessed yes.. but not as harmful as chemical painkillers
I do not think people die from medical opioids like that much.. but if they do, maybe they need. As it must be greedy or really long addiction., As it is strikly not a killing drug, it can make you possessed yes.. but not as harmful as chemical painkillers
21 February 2017 04:18
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
mother would need that a lot, 2 hands operated and many other parts..
21 February 2017 04:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and not talking even China kind of communism in here as will learn this from locals some day when business starts to flow
https://www.chemistryworld.com/feature/lsd-cultural-revolution-and-medical-advances/1012729.article
https://www.chemistryworld.com/feature/lsd-cultural-revolution-and-medical-advances/1012729.article
https://www.chemistryworld.com/feature/lsd-cultural-revolution-and-medical-advances/1012729.article
21 February 2017 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lol, waiting to correct a lot of that after major Travel again:p
this what is written, feels already might be needed
this what is written, feels already might be needed
21 February 2017 04:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but when peope choose to keep their wrong ideas and fight against truth in a education journy, they can become antipathic or not dearing to demand correctnes anymore. But at least they not arrogant anymore even if making mistakes
21 February 2017 04:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i choose not to be in war with ourself or nature
21 February 2017 03:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzJV0Wwbi48&t=13s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzJV0Wwbi48&t=13s
21 February 2017 03:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsXBzT_sWgY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsXBzT_sWgY
21 February 2017 03:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kas me eluõigus juba on seadustatud?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmA9IXcUodY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmA9IXcUodY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmA9IXcUodY
21 February 2017 03:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja rahvusvhaelisi suuri kommunismi seminare mis üle maa toimivad
21 February 2017 03:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
liberaalide alahindamine, st kommunistide, rooma-greeka impeeriumi.. on alati saatuslikuks saanud, vaata ainuüksi Fabiani Society praegust ja eelmist logo ja motot
21 February 2017 03:20
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
to naine Vikerraadio's ennist rääkis, et avalikult isegi omavahel neil teemadel rääkimine on Rootsis keelatud ja peetakse suureks patuks
ja kui soovitati teha siis lihtne list kes on olnud ja kes mitte rootslane kriminaalidest, seda peeti paremäärmuslikuks, nii ulmeliseks ettepanekuks, et idee ise pidi juba rahusteid nõudma
ja kui soovitati teha siis lihtne list kes on olnud ja kes mitte rootslane kriminaalidest, seda peeti paremäärmuslikuks, nii ulmeliseks ettepanekuks, et idee ise pidi juba rahusteid nõudma
21 February 2017 03:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vanaaasta õhtul mõrvafilme ja muud... presidenti otse feed kuidagi ka netist, ei tea, mina ühti töötavat kohta ei leidnud 3 teenuse pealt, kuid see võis juhus olla
21 February 2017 03:17
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
vaimumaailmas näis, et ainukene positsioon mis plaanis oli mida täielikult kätte ei saadud oli presidenditool, ... kuid ma pole uurinud kuidas maiselt need ülevõtud siin kajastusid.. ratas valiti siis alguses arvasin etsee nii utoopiline, et ei hakanud tähelepanu pööramagi
21 February 2017 03:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
isegi see teatri nalja kriminaal näidend dektetiivist kes mystilist rahakadumist uurib jne
21 February 2017 03:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ERR eelmise aasta osalvalt vihjeid muude kanalite kaudu andis tihti selles oas, et tulevane olemus neil on ohus
21 February 2017 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
uute punasesse kontorisse kolimine oli... asi andmaks teada, et uudised ei ole enam meie.
21 February 2017 03:13
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
asoo
https://www.goldennumber.net/wp-content/uploads/bodytemp.gif
https://www.goldennumber.net/body-temperatures/
vb et jahe kass siis, kes hakkab linnuks muutuma, linnurind juba on
https://www.goldennumber.net/wp-content/uploads/bodytemp.gif
https://www.goldennumber.net/body-temperatures/
vb et jahe kass siis, kes hakkab linnuks muutuma, linnurind juba on
https://www.goldennumber.net/wp-content/uploads/bodytemp.gif
21 February 2017 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
vb see mu uus kehasoojus, mis loomadel veel selline on 38.2
21 February 2017 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ei saagi aru miks 38 peale pysima jäi mis teema sellega on
21 February 2017 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kolmas päev 38 ja enne seda teadmata suurem palavik nädal aega vist siis juba hakkab selle kaua alla kaalduma
21 February 2017 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kui muud ei aita siis vast rahustab
21 February 2017 02:03
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
riik nagu mingiks syboolseks asjaks muudetud, et visnurk oma regulatsioonidega ainult ise põhi asju reguleerida saaks
20 February 2017 21:47
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
+ lisaks siis ärilised kes tõestanud ennast.. muidugi enne peakxsime riigi korda saama ...seee väike asi jah.. aga ega ta ei saagi kui kõik on paberitööks tehtud
20 February 2017 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
arstid peaksid riiklikud olema
20 February 2017 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
nu arstid on arstid, minu oma kui viimati nägin oli ka meeldiv,
kuid olukord miles nad olema peavad, ületöötatuna, on ennekuulamatu
kuid olukord miles nad olema peavad, ületöötatuna, on ennekuulamatu
20 February 2017 21:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Florence Wessen, u like it everytime :)
20 February 2017 21:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
minupoolt kui end jalule saan on abi heameelega pakutud mida sa viks alustada nädalaajase kärbseseene kuuriga kui mees piisavalt oled, mitte niisama ära näksi
20 February 2017 21:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid minu uskumus on et iga pervert on parandatav õigete rohtudega, eks näis kumb enne saabub kas arusaam mida elu vastu teed või arusaam mida tegid siis kui juba muuta enam suurt pole midagi vaid aksepteerida
20 February 2017 21:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ütleb "Mind kõige rohkem mõjutanud luuletaja on ilmselt Juhan Viiding, kuigi lemmik luuletajaid on palju"
aa.. ei tea mis pidi TEAM sind mõjutas kus seda näha on?
Viiding oleks avalikult põlastuses sülitanud sinu peale, selles ikka saad aru, pärnits?
aa.. ei tea mis pidi TEAM sind mõjutas kus seda näha on?
Viiding oleks avalikult põlastuses sülitanud sinu peale, selles ikka saad aru, pärnits?
20 February 2017 21:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
iga asi mis lahti võtad üks haigem kui teine
nagu kuidas igasuguseid lastakse avalikule esinemisele üldse sellise jama peab ära lõpetama
http://elu24.postimees.ee/3589269/galerii-paernus-esitleti-skandaalset-teost-hapkomah
nagu kuidas igasuguseid lastakse avalikule esinemisele üldse sellise jama peab ära lõpetama
http://elu24.postimees.ee/3589269/galerii-paernus-esitleti-skandaalset-teost-hapkomah
http://elu24.postimees.ee/3589269/galerii-paernus-esitleti-skandaalset-teost-hapkomah
20 February 2017 21:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
irw, head soppa ikka:
"antisotsiaalne detektiiv tohutute mahhinatsioonide, vandenõude ja intriigide lõksu langeb, saab tema ainsaks reaktsiooniks võimetu raev, plahvatuslik vägivald"
inimene pole isegi selgeks saanud, et aristokraatia üks põhi eesmärk on nende emotsioonide likvideerimine ühiskonnast ja olendite kes neid tekitavad
https://www.rahvaraamat.ee/p/kaotaja/666753/et?isbn=9789949390625#
"antisotsiaalne detektiiv tohutute mahhinatsioonide, vandenõude ja intriigide lõksu langeb, saab tema ainsaks reaktsiooniks võimetu raev, plahvatuslik vägivald"
inimene pole isegi selgeks saanud, et aristokraatia üks põhi eesmärk on nende emotsioonide likvideerimine ühiskonnast ja olendite kes neid tekitavad
https://www.rahvaraamat.ee/p/kaotaja/666753/et?isbn=9789949390625#
https://www.rahvaraamat.ee/p/kaotaja/666753/et?isbn=9789949390625
20 February 2017 21:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
milles nad eksisid on selles, et ei toonud välja kellega tegelikult tegu
20 February 2017 21:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Pressinõukogu tegi Müürilehe kohta õigeksmõistva otsuse
Tallinn, 29. september 2015. Pressinõukogu arutas Mikk Pärnitsa kaebust Müürilehes juunis ilmunud artikli “Nihilist: must materjal“ peale ja otsustas, et leht ei ole rikkunud head ajakirjandustava.
Artikkel on ülevaade platvormist Nihilist. Artiklis on juttu ka Mikk Pärnitsast, kelle kohta on muuhulgas öeldud, et ta oli ähvardanud Delfi toimetusse süütepudeli visata ja selle väljaütlemise pärast pidi ta käima politseis tunnistust andmas.
Mikk Pärnits kaebas Pressinõukogule, et artiklis esitatakse tema kohta valesüüdistusi ja laimatakse ta nime. Kaebaja lisas, et andis intervjuus Müürilehele ka selgitusi, kuid neid loos ei avaldatud.
Müürileht vastas, et artiklis portreteeriti Nihilisti põhiautoreid. Leht lisas, et ühes Nihilistis avaldatud Mikk Pärnitsa postituses on kaks remarki: „Mul poleks üldse paha tunne, kui Delfisse süütepudel visatakse“ ja „Ma tahan Delfisse süütepudeli visata, for real“. Müürileht viitas oma artiklis Mikk Pärnitsale kui teadlikule provokaatorile ja ei jätnud temast muljet kui potentsiaalsest kurjategijast, kes on ühiskonnale ohtlik. Leht leiab, et ei esita Mikk Pärnitsa kohta laimu.
Pressinõukogu otsustas, et Müürileht ei ole eksinud ajakirjanduseetika koodeksi vastu portreteerides Mikk Pärnitsat. Artiklis on viidatud sellele, et Nihilistis on Mikk Pärnitsal provokaatori roll ja on toodud näited, millest üks puudutas Delfit. Ka Mikk Pärnits ise ei eita Delfiga seonduvat, kuid ütleb, et see on kontekstist välja rebitud.
http://www.eall.ee/pressinoukogu/uudised%202015/29_09_2015.html
Tallinn, 29. september 2015. Pressinõukogu arutas Mikk Pärnitsa kaebust Müürilehes juunis ilmunud artikli “Nihilist: must materjal“ peale ja otsustas, et leht ei ole rikkunud head ajakirjandustava.
Artikkel on ülevaade platvormist Nihilist. Artiklis on juttu ka Mikk Pärnitsast, kelle kohta on muuhulgas öeldud, et ta oli ähvardanud Delfi toimetusse süütepudeli visata ja selle väljaütlemise pärast pidi ta käima politseis tunnistust andmas.
Mikk Pärnits kaebas Pressinõukogule, et artiklis esitatakse tema kohta valesüüdistusi ja laimatakse ta nime. Kaebaja lisas, et andis intervjuus Müürilehele ka selgitusi, kuid neid loos ei avaldatud.
Müürileht vastas, et artiklis portreteeriti Nihilisti põhiautoreid. Leht lisas, et ühes Nihilistis avaldatud Mikk Pärnitsa postituses on kaks remarki: „Mul poleks üldse paha tunne, kui Delfisse süütepudel visatakse“ ja „Ma tahan Delfisse süütepudeli visata, for real“. Müürileht viitas oma artiklis Mikk Pärnitsale kui teadlikule provokaatorile ja ei jätnud temast muljet kui potentsiaalsest kurjategijast, kes on ühiskonnale ohtlik. Leht leiab, et ei esita Mikk Pärnitsa kohta laimu.
Pressinõukogu otsustas, et Müürileht ei ole eksinud ajakirjanduseetika koodeksi vastu portreteerides Mikk Pärnitsat. Artiklis on viidatud sellele, et Nihilistis on Mikk Pärnitsal provokaatori roll ja on toodud näited, millest üks puudutas Delfit. Ka Mikk Pärnits ise ei eita Delfiga seonduvat, kuid ütleb, et see on kontekstist välja rebitud.
http://www.eall.ee/pressinoukogu/uudised%202015/29_09_2015.html
http://www.eall.ee/pressinoukogu/uudised%202015/29_09_2015.html
20 February 2017 21:18
Margus Meigo commented on Kaur Kender's link.
nii haigeid mõtteid ei ole isegi tervislik kommenteerida. perverdist saatanist kes lapsi satanismile avalikult otse värbab? .. aa sulle see meeldib ju, sama kooli mees, vaatasin olid omale lemmikutesse pannud selle artikli kohe
Kuidas igasugustele eluõigus antakse, ebaaaus
Kuidas igasugustele eluõigus antakse, ebaaaus
20 February 2017 20:37
Margus Meigo commented on Mikk Pärnits's post.
satanismi kutsikatele kanepit veel vaja.... ibogaeeni kuruni täis toppida paras
20 February 2017 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
there is strong limitations at times Michael
20 February 2017 19:46
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
nii rahvasuu räägib,
20 February 2017 18:49
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
mis liiga pikk ja liiga kõrge, lisa ka juurde enamasti, kuid ju vist nii on
20 February 2017 18:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
pärnu küll ilus koht aga mismoodi see pärnu piirkond on arstil kelle äri on Tallinnas
20 February 2017 18:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu alates selle arsti algusest umbes polegi kasutanud arsti peale korda kui sloveenis puukide kes mõlemat kannavad pureda sain kõvasti ja siis pidin tablette võtma et dementseks ei muutuks kuid üksiku lootusetu patsifistina ei võtnud neid lootes, et küll nii läheb kuidas vaja on
20 February 2017 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
avastasin suure affi õnnistusega (mitte, et ma ahvist oleks), et mul ka õigus arstile helistada, sest kindlustus aktiivne (nu tegeledes muuga ja proovides ellu jääda pole aega elementaarsegagi kurssi viia ja meeldetuletada).
ja siis ei saagi sest neil üks liin ja see ka kinni, ilma sekretärita kes su nimegi kirja paneks, et helistasid
ja siis ei saagi sest neil üks liin ja see ka kinni, ilma sekretärita kes su nimegi kirja paneks, et helistasid
20 February 2017 18:42
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
:D
20 February 2017 14:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hiinlased on pika mäluga ka veel, väga pika ja väga kergesti solvuvad, jäävalt
20 February 2017 14:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuidas bnii riigivastast tegevust nii avalikult üldse lubatud teha on
20 February 2017 14:21
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Kaldur's post.
200 000 fak ja nad ei saanud isegi lehele üles loetud Eesti ja Eestlaste suuremaid saavutusigi mis väliskunnidele huvi pakuks,
ja siis mingi mami, kes nagu nõukogude valvearst, kes asja ajab, tegi plaani, et Eesti majandus probleemides on süüdi hiina ja rääkis suurest esitlusest mis tuleb uue eestiga seoses kus rääägib mis moodi hiina meie disaine varastanud ja sellepärast meie majandus on tuksis
ja siis mingi mami, kes nagu nõukogude valvearst, kes asja ajab, tegi plaani, et Eesti majandus probleemides on süüdi hiina ja rääkis suurest esitlusest mis tuleb uue eestiga seoses kus rääägib mis moodi hiina meie disaine varastanud ja sellepärast meie majandus on tuksis
20 February 2017 14:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
umbes sama kui rokalmaare aasta betoon ehitise auhinna saanud karp mis lund kogub tonnides mida kühveldama peab ja tagavaraväljapääs mis on ilma ühegi astmeta u 10+ meetri pikkune sile kaltee betooniseinte vahel millel katust pole ja mis lund täis sajab. käisin korra seda puhastamas, paras kunst oli ... neile arhitektidele peaks lumelabida kätte andma..
siis uurima kas said aru mis viga on
naelsaabastega vb oleks võimalik sellest üles ronida, kuid kuidas seegi sileda kivipeal aitab mis kaldus
siis uurima kas said aru mis viga on
naelsaabastega vb oleks võimalik sellest üles ronida, kuid kuidas seegi sileda kivipeal aitab mis kaldus
20 February 2017 14:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Jack Fox Rob Fox Roberto Fox Jessica Fox
20 February 2017 13:17
Margus Meigo commented on Wilfred Parmas's post.
Group: Tutvus
peaasi et tubakat ei kasuta, muidu ikka suht rõve, kui konimari ise just pole..20 February 2017 13:15
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Kaldur's photo.
ja soojemal ajal kergMärgamis tee,
et saad kergelt alla polveni märjaks
et saad kergelt alla polveni märjaks
20 February 2017 13:10
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Kaldur's photo.
sul selgitataxe prjojekteria poolt et see on kergLiuglustee
20 February 2017 13:08
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Kaldur's photo.
natuke kylma ja siis see vesi muutub monusaks ohtlikuks kiilakaks mida märkamatud tunda saavad...
20 February 2017 13:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ses mõttes kas palavik ülehinnatud ja paraneb naguinii või see märk et mingi kuri ikka sees millega tegelema peaks,
ise eeldan esimest
ise eeldan esimest
20 February 2017 08:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
true
20 February 2017 08:28
Margus Meigo replied to Eha Viru's comment.
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:D20 February 2017 08:25
Margus Meigo commented on Arry Arkadiusz's photo.
mushrooms?
20 February 2017 08:22
Margus Meigo commented on Nur Natasya's photo.
really good picture!
20 February 2017 08:21
Margus Meigo commented on Nur Natasya's photo.
You have become a proper beauty!
(i do not like a word "model")
(i do not like a word "model")
20 February 2017 08:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
muidugi enne seda nädal aega väga siruli olles võib iga asi hea tunduda kuid ikkagi, tasub selle ilmaga reisima minna paari maa taha?
Peab ka majanduspagulaseks minema sutsuks ajaks,
tegelikult olulisem asi kuid no, ega see ka vägakaugel ole tõest
Peab ka majanduspagulaseks minema sutsuks ajaks,
tegelikult olulisem asi kuid no, ega see ka vägakaugel ole tõest
20 February 2017 08:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey but dude looks thought,
20 February 2017 08:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sick ... how to not curse?
20 February 2017 08:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
full bearded people are much more discriminated on workplaces, and we original people, so what should we do,
all the extra senses people, they as well get their share of discrimination many ways...but most of all is nearly always 3 main groups in scool , work, high up in science: there are evil ones who pick on others and enjoy it, the ones who suffer and the ones who stay out fornm it
chnage the evil behavior not justify nauture unbenafitial features
all the extra senses people, they as well get their share of discrimination many ways...but most of all is nearly always 3 main groups in scool , work, high up in science: there are evil ones who pick on others and enjoy it, the ones who suffer and the ones who stay out fornm it
chnage the evil behavior not justify nauture unbenafitial features
20 February 2017 08:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and specially how that solves global problems on levels to rise up:
" Long was one of the architects of a first-of-its-kind survey run by the American Physical Society (APS), charting the experiences of physicists who are (LGBT).
Of the 324 scientists who responded, more than one in five reported having been excluded, intimidated or harassed at work in the previous year.
// well, this is suprisingly good number, if u sask 1000 basic humans they have been harrated way more , and study did not include if person was dicky them self, emotionally underdeveloped, showing off or promoting their disfunktion not understanding how much that stresses and disrupts other people
if you are you are, but do NOT come to tell retarded tale that it is equally same as NORMAL life that drives humans or whorst jet, that others have to accept it
well, these are the closet foobs anyway who run after some special homo and start to pick on on for this reason , but you can not force structural chnage of all normal people pecouse of small group of different way underdeveloped people who pick on ya.
same way can all the football fans and politics and maybe even writers complain about everyone who picks on them,
" Long was one of the architects of a first-of-its-kind survey run by the American Physical Society (APS), charting the experiences of physicists who are (LGBT).
Of the 324 scientists who responded, more than one in five reported having been excluded, intimidated or harassed at work in the previous year.
// well, this is suprisingly good number, if u sask 1000 basic humans they have been harrated way more , and study did not include if person was dicky them self, emotionally underdeveloped, showing off or promoting their disfunktion not understanding how much that stresses and disrupts other people
if you are you are, but do NOT come to tell retarded tale that it is equally same as NORMAL life that drives humans or whorst jet, that others have to accept it
well, these are the closet foobs anyway who run after some special homo and start to pick on on for this reason , but you can not force structural chnage of all normal people pecouse of small group of different way underdeveloped people who pick on ya.
same way can all the football fans and politics and maybe even writers complain about everyone who picks on them,
20 February 2017 08:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Proxima b would have been eventually discovered by computers and what use it has to us realistically in OUR current situation
20 February 2017 07:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but why are these on list,
darvinist "Esvelt vowed to understand evolution — and improve on it. “I wanted to learn more about how these creatures came to be,” he says. “And, frankly, I wanted to make more of my own.”
darvinist "Esvelt vowed to understand evolution — and improve on it. “I wanted to learn more about how these creatures came to be,” he says. “And, frankly, I wanted to make more of my own.”
20 February 2017 07:53
Margus Meigo commented on Sci-Hub's post.
just ip also right http://80.82.77.83/
http://80.82.77.83/
19 February 2017 23:14
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek Osolainen's comment.
aga synopsist?
19 February 2017 23:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või noh, uutmoodi nad ju näevadki, oma insnovatiivuses,
19 February 2017 23:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sinna vaja LSD d ka kaasa võtta, et kui lambid lahti teevad näevad uut moodi miskit ehk,
19 February 2017 23:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(not really nothing "mindblowing" but still )
One good ome more, besides many other good ones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0inSsAoFU4
One good ome more, besides many other good ones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0inSsAoFU4
19 February 2017 20:55
Margus Meigo commented on Chris Praun's post.
tallina kaardi peal saaks eraldi kihi panna aadressidega kus molle vaja jagada
19 February 2017 20:50
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek Osolainen's comment.
jätkake siin, ootame huviga aftermatsi!
19 February 2017 20:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Why do i think that Jack Ma conversation with Drump did not start on this topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDsRn887XS8&spfreload=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDsRn887XS8&spfreload=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDsRn887XS8&spfreload=5
19 February 2017 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on Lelis Ruben Olmedo Cano's post.
it is known by most in up here, that there is so many places now where locals are afraid to go and by law is not allowed to talk about any insidents that make imigrants (organized crime that evolves in it) look bad.
Any kind of public debate or questioning who are them afraid in night is not even allowed or accepted in casual conversations reporters have told
Any kind of public debate or questioning who are them afraid in night is not even allowed or accepted in casual conversations reporters have told
19 February 2017 20:27
Margus Meigo commented on Lelis Ruben Olmedo Cano's post.
the only reason they scratsing is that they do not have way to answer to refute and not understand why one of the darkest secrets in europe acient most royal land ..is exposed by USA regime
19 February 2017 20:24
Margus Meigo commented on Lelis Ruben Olmedo Cano's post.
Great hereo,
Had dreamed to make something like that, but she really made it and surived
http://80.82.77.83/
Had dreamed to make something like that, but she really made it and surived
http://80.82.77.83/
http://80.82.77.83/
19 February 2017 20:21
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
ei teagi kas nutta või naerda aga nii on
19 February 2017 19:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"first thing we look, if it is impoving a world, solving a problem "
this is kind of man thinking smart ones can tune in
this is kind of man thinking smart ones can tune in
19 February 2017 16:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and fall not to trap of fake comments who usually anly are able to write 1-2 words
but focus on these who care
but focus on these who care
19 February 2017 15:44
Margus Meigo replied to Todd Brown's comment.
why damn?
19 February 2017 15:43
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
first they send women to penetrate all your networks, wisdom, and if needed .. more..
19 February 2017 15:19
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
underesitating your opponent ignorance, ruthlesness, planing, and evilness and their power is greatest failure,
for sake of Ypur sisters, think in Current situation, not how it wil be when things are alright
for sake of Ypur sisters, think in Current situation, not how it wil be when things are alright
19 February 2017 15:18
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
nantotech that is unoticable, can be drop from air, that will penatrate skin and turn of reproduction genes and much more
besides all the rav and open main tech that is used for majority of people, special tec is only collected for preperation, and not just women what have been greek-roman enemy long time ago, but all natives or country man who understand life, are in list, as they was in soviettime
besides all the rav and open main tech that is used for majority of people, special tec is only collected for preperation, and not just women what have been greek-roman enemy long time ago, but all natives or country man who understand life, are in list, as they was in soviettime
19 February 2017 15:17
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
do not be childish
19 February 2017 15:17
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
they get now besides brain tunings and waves and remote controlled indigo children and drugs that are unoticable that will remove dream protectons ... just to access anyone and put some bit of wrong in to her being and that is all what is needed usaually
they really strategic and not worry about death or afterlife in true sense , step by step they think, first eliinate problem and then will see what happens ...
they really strategic and not worry about death or afterlife in true sense , step by step they think, first eliinate problem and then will see what happens ...
19 February 2017 15:14
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
well is great difference of survival instinc and domination insitinct, by all means
19 February 2017 15:12
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
but yea,
if you fail get potection of the man how ever silly it sounds, then these man who we all are worried about, will just nuke future wich willage or eliminate their being with nantotechnoloy if it starts to show any kind of progress in to direction of what greek romas does not like
protection here mostly is meant, selecting out proper man, making them more proper, keeping them proper and let them inside man clubs to eliminate evil plans befre they activate..
if you fail get potection of the man how ever silly it sounds, then these man who we all are worried about, will just nuke future wich willage or eliminate their being with nantotechnoloy if it starts to show any kind of progress in to direction of what greek romas does not like
protection here mostly is meant, selecting out proper man, making them more proper, keeping them proper and let them inside man clubs to eliminate evil plans befre they activate..
19 February 2017 15:11
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
well, try to remeber also for what did You perhaps from acient times agreed to give birth a man first of al
19 February 2017 15:08
Margus Meigo replied to Kelly Mägi's comment.
omad lusikad kaasa
19 February 2017 15:03
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek Osolainen's comment.
et panid ära siis v ei
19 February 2017 15:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
urr riided märjad ei saanutki veel minna
19 February 2017 13:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
se meant masterminds probably..
as was assumed they planned and se depens on information that she is given, that is elementary.
failure is Chris Matthews
who heard something new and accepted it as fact and did not question
as was assumed they planned and se depens on information that she is given, that is elementary.
failure is Chris Matthews
who heard something new and accepted it as fact and did not question
19 February 2017 12:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
does people even realize, that refugee and mass imigration is long planned liberal-communist plan to disrup world so they can rise again,
massive amount communist meetings happening all the time, and a lot international ones with 40 some country representitives present
or look fabian society logo...and old one..
massive amount communist meetings happening all the time, and a lot international ones with 40 some country representitives present
or look fabian society logo...and old one..
19 February 2017 12:34
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce Alan Wilson's post.
and perhaps is my feaver hangower but what was wrong again what seh told??
but the man is a bit of dick also in beginning..should learn how to talk with lady even if she is wearing red, is blond and has fake eye something so strong that makes work to keep eyes open
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-w16cyQ8wQ
but the man is a bit of dick also in beginning..should learn how to talk with lady even if she is wearing red, is blond and has fake eye something so strong that makes work to keep eyes open
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-w16cyQ8wQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-w16cyQ8wQ
19 February 2017 12:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and specially owermakeuping
19 February 2017 12:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as this dissconects from who they are, and why
19 February 2017 12:22
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce Alan Wilson's post.
any women who still blondades their hair probabaly needs help..
19 February 2017 12:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
you got much more potential, relax
19 February 2017 12:10
Margus Meigo commented on Maranda Kidd's post.
i told you, newer make picture in mirror of yourself as it will newer become as nice as direct picture, use timer or a friend : )
19 February 2017 12:10
Margus Meigo commented on Mary Lane's post.
i can not get it, one is plastic bag and other is jellyfish.. bag does not even look appealing :D
19 February 2017 11:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as it is man job to correct it also. as they can only step against stuructures, ho with EASE are able to (besides whatthey have done ) hold tens of thausands of womens in undergroud to produse offsprings for them self and for their pleasure as they wish...
but i gues this is done in spiritual world all the time anyway but if flesh knowingly step in to this action..
but i gues this is done in spiritual world all the time anyway but if flesh knowingly step in to this action..
19 February 2017 11:54
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Ravenna's post.
But yea,
always man to the action as you can, the radical ones specially, not some soft core liberal "there is no good or bad" type of people,
have to make direct confertation multible times and methods to see how deep the love go as we like to say
always man to the action as you can, the radical ones specially, not some soft core liberal "there is no good or bad" type of people,
have to make direct confertation multible times and methods to see how deep the love go as we like to say
19 February 2017 11:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
it was kind of educational to see how pentagram penetrates family's .. if someone is able to mute out half of the movie.
Then ofcourse come in the end satanic symbol kiss showing plaintly spiritually kind of, that becouse father liked this band then their kind of spirits come to collect Her. Overlook their crew pray who want to fill up the caps
Then ofcourse come in the end satanic symbol kiss showing plaintly spiritually kind of, that becouse father liked this band then their kind of spirits come to collect Her. Overlook their crew pray who want to fill up the caps
19 February 2017 11:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
besides costant full cursing and all kind of vierd pseudo homo and new age behaviors and decoratons all ower the move while keeping the main devil, as center of the movie, as angel
19 February 2017 11:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but same time movies with even female beating, degrading movies in so many level like last one i saw by accident and had to sit down to not womit, this is how spiritually bad it was.. can not recall the name but someting about IT bil guy full of pentagrams penetrating in to avarage traditional family ... it was full of this kind of sickness in so many levels for a open comedy ... people need to start to take direct actions against any of the products that directly are evil and cheap same time.
Let them produce their expensive satanic movies.. gubric or what not.. but massproduct degrading grap that appeals to youth
(scene from the movie: father is on boyfriends hause and try with phone help hack a local coputer to find proof against boyfriend... so so bearded family member with same time hes own wife and kids are behind his back and he try to guide what to to to access coputer... then boyfriend comes in with his taughter and they start to make ... on top of table where father is ... this was not even the whorst part,
worst part, the family member who is still on phone, with his family in room, asks from the fater strongly insisting that he want to see the action .... what kind of sick mindset writes scripts like that)
Let them produce their expensive satanic movies.. gubric or what not.. but massproduct degrading grap that appeals to youth
(scene from the movie: father is on boyfriends hause and try with phone help hack a local coputer to find proof against boyfriend... so so bearded family member with same time hes own wife and kids are behind his back and he try to guide what to to to access coputer... then boyfriend comes in with his taughter and they start to make ... on top of table where father is ... this was not even the whorst part,
worst part, the family member who is still on phone, with his family in room, asks from the fater strongly insisting that he want to see the action .... what kind of sick mindset writes scripts like that)
19 February 2017 11:46
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Ravenna's post.
importantr is to know root causes of wrong treatement as well,
like from what kind of dominat culture (greek-roman, aristotteles, martin luther even perhaps etc) we inherit these understandings that eliminate the natural balance,
and no equality, to demand equality for women is discrase, showing them they self forgot who trhey are, and yes.. with pleasure they will give equality, ... same kind as all people have in front of law, taxes, food, living rights.... you know, in theory, in paper
like from what kind of dominat culture (greek-roman, aristotteles, martin luther even perhaps etc) we inherit these understandings that eliminate the natural balance,
and no equality, to demand equality for women is discrase, showing them they self forgot who trhey are, and yes.. with pleasure they will give equality, ... same kind as all people have in front of law, taxes, food, living rights.... you know, in theory, in paper
19 February 2017 11:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aww
https://www.facebook.com/374223870316/photos/a.374293525316.360732.374223870316/10158191288950317/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/374223870316/photos/a.374293525316.360732.374223870316/10158191288950317/?type=3&theater
19 February 2017 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on Urmas Hela Välimäe's post.
Group: Kristuse Kogudus
kas see lihulas?19 February 2017 04:38
Margus Meigo commented on Urmas Hela Välimäe's post.
Group: Kristuse Kogudus
alguses millegi pärast viirastus, et vooglaid enne video käima panemist,
või oli see pealkiri mis suunas sinna19 February 2017 04:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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see oleks hea kui nii hea puur19 February 2017 04:33
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's post.
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ega to närilisi ise kokku korja mis niisama majas ringi jooksevad19 February 2017 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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5229041 kui enne lõunat veel helistada jõuad19 February 2017 04:32
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Väinsalu's post.
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Kas Sul on juba parem, kui jõuad kiiresti vastata saan tuua linna kaasa miskit, sest ma ise lähen korraks välja ja saan hulga toitu kodust kaasa võtta, enamuses muidugi kuivained ja õli jms19 February 2017 04:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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mõtle, vaene jõks oleks liberaalide poolt lömastatud kui ta valitud oleks saanud nagu sala kkommarite plaan oli19 February 2017 04:30
Margus Meigo commented on Imbi Niitsoo's post.
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vaat kus hoopis vedas suuresti19 February 2017 04:30
Margus Meigo commented on Kairit Põldmaa's post.
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Tähelepannud, et need tumesiniste kaantega soome piibliseltsi 80 ndate versioonid on head,
kui juba jumala nime aga välja võetud.. mine tea mida veel.
Kuid olulisem veelgi, et ikka ristviited oleks korralikult!19 February 2017 04:28
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's post.
Group: Kristlik abileht
oih eemaldatud..19 February 2017 04:26
Margus Meigo commented on Veiko Rämmel Poisipõlvenimega Maidla's post.
Group: USK, LOOTUS JA ARMASTUS!
eetika ilma religioonita samamoodi19 February 2017 04:24
Margus Meigo replied to Vahur Sn Ruut's comment.
Group: USK, LOOTUS JA ARMASTUS!
vb ajab asja sedasi, et vähem oleks vähemusi, lootus jääb19 February 2017 04:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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"... on piibli tegelane"
nu jah... vaat kus tegelane19 February 2017 04:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: USK, LOOTUS JA ARMASTUS!
aga ega vaim teda muidu isa juurde ei oleks viinud, kui tema keha nõuab puhtus ja inimkonna juurde pöördumist, see on vast karje usu järgi ikkagi, kuigi ega tunnistada seda vaevalt paljud pikalt julgevad19 February 2017 04:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: USK, LOOTUS JA ARMASTUS!
ja miks nad sääl ikka on, tundub arusaamatu... kui lased raske puudega inimese eetrisse siis tal kas erioskus olema peab või eelkõige tema puude osas, haiguse osas vms asja osas peaks ika keskenduma kuid nagu põhi teema jäätakse ika ei tea kuhu kui igapäevast eetrit vaadata19 February 2017 04:18
Margus Meigo commented on Veiko Rämmel Poisipõlvenimega Maidla's post.
Group: USK, LOOTUS JA ARMASTUS!
kuidas üldse meedia järjepidevalt eetrisse laseb ilma hoiatuseta, et kui vaeimust vaevatud inimesed eetris on19 February 2017 04:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: USK, LOOTUS JA ARMASTUS!
naistele pole vaja selgitada, kes pole uinutaud või sassi aetud, et meest vaja usaldada, sest nad juba avasid ennast Sulle, kõige sügavamal moel, kui abielust rääkida... ega sellesügavusest me otse aru saagi saada kuid no... ah las olla see asi.
keskenduge Heebria kultuurile kui asi sassi läheb19 February 2017 04:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: USK, LOOTUS JA ARMASTUS!
Matriarhaatia on, et usaldad naise jumaliku häält ja saad aru, et tema jumalaga on see kes SULLE elu annab,
naised tetavasti piiblipõhjal saavad pühastpaugust ka lapsi ilmale tuua nagu looduses veel mõned liigid kes kui mehi pole siis leiavad ise lahenduse
teod on muidugi omamoodi arenguklass, kuid pigem algse naise sarnane, enne siia materialiseerumist, ma eeldan19 February 2017 04:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: USK, LOOTUS JA ARMASTUS!
(naise austamise puudus millest lubatud teha programme mis nende geene või meeli muudaks selliselt, et neil omal austus kaoks ja siis..)
Matriarhaatia on see kui nainerahulikult teeb lisaks kodule mida vajalikuks peab maailmale, samalajal kui mehed käivad tüütutel vaidlustel, sõdadel kui vaja ja jahil. Ajavad äri ja annavad pasunasse ning kõik muu ebasobiv naise jaoks.
Ega nais poliitikud naguinii pool eneseohverdajad sest peavad meeste tööd tegema, sest neil meestel kes lipsudega ees tudub olema naine kodus keda mees ei kuula selles osas mida vaja ja siis vaja trügida dzungli keskele, kus nad ka ise peavad selleks muutuma kes ees, sest öeldakse, et muidu ei saa olla... demokraadia värk19 February 2017 04:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: USK, LOOTUS JA ARMASTUS!
ega ma arvagi, et Sa päriselt nii arvad nagu ütlesid Veiko, kuid väga veidralt tuli välja küll eriti arusaades maailma põhi probleeme19 February 2017 04:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: USK, LOOTUS JA ARMASTUS!
kuid ära jumala eest sassi aja feminismi mis kommunistide loodud aseaine võlts toetuseks, kaudne enese väljendus tänapäeva riista alla surutud maailmas,
seni kuni feministid aga lavapealt minema ei aja ebanaiselike naisi, et nad natukene endale juukseid ja seelikut kasvataksid,.. seni suurt paranemist ei näe.
St seni pole näha, et neil arusaamine globaalne või hoolimine reaalsest naisest oleks19 February 2017 04:07
Margus Meigo commented on Veiko Rämmel Poisipõlvenimega Maidla's post.
Group: USK, LOOTUS JA ARMASTUS!
oot mis idiootsust Sa nüüd räägid kulla tark inimene? või ajasid kogematta sõnad sassi?
Saatan, Greeka-rooma homo kultuur mis kogu maailma väliselt vallutanud ja mis enamuste õudsuse algus on see kes algusest saati juudi kultuuri ehk matriarhaatia hävitamisega, aristoteles sh ja kogu see punt (sh. Iidsed ameeriklased, algupärased aasialased arvatvasti ja eelkõige ka Eestlased ... muidugi me ise siin särada ei saa sest naiselööjad nüüd kohtus ennast lausa õigustamas käivad kuid see selleks)19 February 2017 04:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Muidugi see esimene rahajutt võib vahele jätta19 February 2017 03:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristuse Kogudus
Muidugi see esimene rahajutt võib vahele jätta19 February 2017 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlik abileht
Muidugi see esimene rahajutt võib vahele jätta19 February 2017 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: USK, LOOTUS JA ARMASTUS!
Muidugi see esimene rahajutt võib vahele jätta19 February 2017 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
Vaieldamatult parim õde oled kallis õde : )
19 February 2017 02:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nõrkus on muidugi enneolematu üle nädala mõnesi õunasi süües..,.mis õnneks Vatlas meeldivalt olemas olid üllatavalt hea hinnaga, selle sordi kohta.
kuid mis ma siin kurdan.. mehel raske kui nädalaega õuna sööb ja kylmas palavikus .. ja siis juba keel vestil.. Naised aga loovad oma keha hinnaga kogu uusi meid, ... ja suudavad juba päev hiljem naeratada. vot see on tegu!
kuid mis ma siin kurdan.. mehel raske kui nädalaega õuna sööb ja kylmas palavikus .. ja siis juba keel vestil.. Naised aga loovad oma keha hinnaga kogu uusi meid, ... ja suudavad juba päev hiljem naeratada. vot see on tegu!
19 February 2017 02:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ise muidu vast tervenen, anarhisti kunn sõber Priit tegi sauna ja külanaised kostitasid filoloogiliste arutlustega
19 February 2017 02:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
muidugi kõige parem ja soojem jutt oli emaga ja meie pere tähtsamast uuest liikmest, punapealise esiklapse planeeritud armastusega lapsest kes nii tubli ja tragi et juba 7 kuuga arvas, et on aeg maailm vastuvõtta!
Marge Karin, oled parim õde keda loota!
(kahjuks seda lindistust ei olnud kuna nii soe tunne oli peale nädalast pildituna olekut, et arvasin, et kuna isiklikud asjad siis hellad asjad las jääda.. kuigi kahjuks enda mälu selline, et kui tagantjärgi kuulata.. ikka niipalju lisatarkust ja olulisust kuuleb mida ise hiljem ei mäletagi iga aju... eks nii me oleme tehtud)
Marge Karin, oled parim õde keda loota!
(kahjuks seda lindistust ei olnud kuna nii soe tunne oli peale nädalast pildituna olekut, et arvasin, et kuna isiklikud asjad siis hellad asjad las jääda.. kuigi kahjuks enda mälu selline, et kui tagantjärgi kuulata.. ikka niipalju lisatarkust ja olulisust kuuleb mida ise hiljem ei mäletagi iga aju... eks nii me oleme tehtud)
19 February 2017 02:30
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Anti's photo.
nu jah võrrelgu seda praeguse filipiini presidendiga, ta death toll vist 1400 oli jubsa
18 February 2017 20:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
foorum
lamenditegemiseks kohti jätkub, peksin muidugi teise kirjastiili siis kasutusele võtma aga noh häda ajab kassi ka
http://www.juristaitab.ee/forum/
Küsimusi saab esitada ainult id-kaardiga.
Küsimuste esitamisel kuvatakse Teie ees- ja perekonnanimi.
Küsimustele ja vastustele ei saa esitada kommentaare.
Ebasobivad postitused kustutatakse.
lamenditegemiseks kohti jätkub, peksin muidugi teise kirjastiili siis kasutusele võtma aga noh häda ajab kassi ka
http://www.juristaitab.ee/forum/
Küsimusi saab esitada ainult id-kaardiga.
Küsimuste esitamisel kuvatakse Teie ees- ja perekonnanimi.
Küsimustele ja vastustele ei saa esitada kommentaare.
Ebasobivad postitused kustutatakse.
18 February 2017 18:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi jah, ega siit muljetavaldavast listist vis muud pole valida kui kohtäiturit kohtutäiturite osas http://www.juristaitab.ee/et/ekspertide-tutvustus
http://www.juristaitab.ee/et/ekspertide-tutvustus
18 February 2017 18:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
inimestel mingi arusaam osati tekkinud osadel, nagu (praktiline) filosoofia oleks midagi mittemateriaalset
18 February 2017 17:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui seda ütlesin vastas täitur (muidu viisakas mees, polnud ülbik) "nu jah seda võid sa siin ju filosofeerida.."
18 February 2017 17:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid küll selles osas nüüd ka palju siin muutuma peab hakkama, kaua võib, ikka väga väga kaua kui midagi ette ei võta
18 February 2017 17:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
selline paberi formaalsuste ja nippide taha peitumine on alatu kui viga selgelt eksimatult ka 7 klassi haridusega inimesele näha, mis umbkaudselt kui palju mul on
(nipid, reeglid, vahest inimese elu otseselt ohtu panevad nüansid, millest nemad sind ette ei ole kohusttud teavitama veel siiiani millegipärast)
"jaa ise hari ja ravi ennast"
jah, enamasti tulekski, kuid vahetevahel on vahedevahel vahed vahel nagu mu kallis ema on ikka öelnud
kui neil midagi nii lihtne, odav, kasvõi @eest.ee meilile saata asjad mida peab arvestama, postiga, telefoniga (üle küsida, kas saadi aru, äkki hull, või depresioonis?), see 2 eurot oleks austusavalduse ja inimeste harimiseks oliuline mis nende keissi puudutab, proovida vähemalt.
Meelega aga abi mitte pakkuda et inimest ebasootsamasse olukorda panna ainuüüksi statistiliselt, on kuritegelik, l
(nipid, reeglid, vahest inimese elu otseselt ohtu panevad nüansid, millest nemad sind ette ei ole kohusttud teavitama veel siiiani millegipärast)
"jaa ise hari ja ravi ennast"
jah, enamasti tulekski, kuid vahetevahel on vahedevahel vahed vahel nagu mu kallis ema on ikka öelnud
kui neil midagi nii lihtne, odav, kasvõi @eest.ee meilile saata asjad mida peab arvestama, postiga, telefoniga (üle küsida, kas saadi aru, äkki hull, või depresioonis?), see 2 eurot oleks austusavalduse ja inimeste harimiseks oliuline mis nende keissi puudutab, proovida vähemalt.
Meelega aga abi mitte pakkuda et inimest ebasootsamasse olukorda panna ainuüüksi statistiliselt, on kuritegelik, l
18 February 2017 17:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muide, on küll tali ja päris jahe olnud vahest
18 February 2017 17:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ega tundub jah, et kogu see asi siin... eriti valgust ei näita aga eks üritab.
ei ole reaalne, et niipalju võimu ja ei minit kohustust peale vea tegemist
" Juhul, kui kohtutäitur on võlgniku arvelt maha võetud raha juba sissenõudjale üle kandnud, ei ole kohtutäituril võimalik nimetatud raha võlgnikule enam tagastada. Seda isegi juhul, kui tegemist oli võlgniku elatusmiinimumiga. Seetõttu ongi äärmiselt oluline, et võlgnik informeeriks kohtutäiturit aegsasti oma sissetulekutest ning teeks koheselt täitemenetluse algatamisest teadasaamisel avalduse elatusmiinimumi säilitamiseks tema arvelduskontole. "
see ei pea olema iimese asi kellele ülekanti kui tegu Queen Elizabeti just ole, mina oma õnnetuste eest 10 aastat hiljem vastutan ja nemad peale 3 päeva enam mitte?
Teretali
http://www.juristaitab.ee/et/minu-suhtes-algatatud-taitemenetlus/millises-ulatuses-sissetulekut-ei-arestita
ei ole reaalne, et niipalju võimu ja ei minit kohustust peale vea tegemist
" Juhul, kui kohtutäitur on võlgniku arvelt maha võetud raha juba sissenõudjale üle kandnud, ei ole kohtutäituril võimalik nimetatud raha võlgnikule enam tagastada. Seda isegi juhul, kui tegemist oli võlgniku elatusmiinimumiga. Seetõttu ongi äärmiselt oluline, et võlgnik informeeriks kohtutäiturit aegsasti oma sissetulekutest ning teeks koheselt täitemenetluse algatamisest teadasaamisel avalduse elatusmiinimumi säilitamiseks tema arvelduskontole. "
see ei pea olema iimese asi kellele ülekanti kui tegu Queen Elizabeti just ole, mina oma õnnetuste eest 10 aastat hiljem vastutan ja nemad peale 3 päeva enam mitte?
Teretali
http://www.juristaitab.ee/et/minu-suhtes-algatatud-taitemenetlus/millises-ulatuses-sissetulekut-ei-arestita
18 February 2017 17:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja kui seda mitukorda teinud ja ikka sama pull juhtub ja siis öldaks "nu üleliigsest 500+ vb 200 saad tagasi (peale hunnikuid ebavajalike väljavõteid ka pankadest mida ei kasuta) kuid "tegelikult kuna kuna 3 päevajooksul ei teadanud siis me ei pea tagasi maksma" ... kus ma üldse eeldama peaks, et minult raha rööviti
kust eeldatakse, et teatada saab iga inimene..
eriti peale nädalat hostelis jõlkumist kus mitmel korral tagasikantud raha nende endipoolt uuesti sama moment võetakse, jättes teise linna kylma, ei millegita
lisaks hea naisega kohtumise keerasid ka tuksi ja nüüd polegi kontakti,
hea, et netiarvet sutsu ette maksin, muidu poleks sedagi mille kaudu siin ..
http://www.juristaitab.ee/et/minu-suhtes-algatatud-taitemenetlus/kohtutaitur-arestinud-minu-sissetulekud-mis-ei-kuulu-seaduse
kust eeldatakse, et teatada saab iga inimene..
eriti peale nädalat hostelis jõlkumist kus mitmel korral tagasikantud raha nende endipoolt uuesti sama moment võetakse, jättes teise linna kylma, ei millegita
lisaks hea naisega kohtumise keerasid ka tuksi ja nüüd polegi kontakti,
hea, et netiarvet sutsu ette maksin, muidu poleks sedagi mille kaudu siin ..
http://www.juristaitab.ee/et/minu-suhtes-algatatud-taitemenetlus/kohtutaitur-arestinud-minu-sissetulekud-mis-ei-kuulu-seaduse
http://www.juristaitab.ee/et/minu-suhtes-algatatud-taitemenetlus/kohtutaitur-arestinud-minu-sissetulekud-mis-ei-kuulu-seaduse
18 February 2017 17:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kunagi ammu vägasuurest ülekohtust tasuta riigi pakutud abi aitas.. ehk aitab ka väikste asjade osas..
väikeste, mis paljudele võib suureks abiks olla kui need kotkaküüned koomal tõmmata, mida isegi pank ütles lootusetuses "kohtutäituritel on võim üle meie kõigi" ... olgu siis võim, aga korrektne!
http://www.kohus.ee/et/oigusabi/tasuta-oigusabi
väikeste, mis paljudele võib suureks abiks olla kui need kotkaküüned koomal tõmmata, mida isegi pank ütles lootusetuses "kohtutäituritel on võim üle meie kõigi" ... olgu siis võim, aga korrektne!
http://www.kohus.ee/et/oigusabi/tasuta-oigusabi
http://www.kohus.ee/et/oigusabi/tasuta-oigusabi
18 February 2017 16:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
muidugi minu magamise muresi see ei lahenda, kuna kõigepealt vaj kohta ku saad turvaliselt magada ja kodutundega ärgata
15 February 2017 19:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
pööre peale 80+ aasrar
15 February 2017 19:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see on tegelikult vägasuur uudis
15 February 2017 19:54
Margus Meigo replied to Maryam Vela's comment.
well, it was short... ended as fast as started
15 February 2017 04:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nii elementaarne(, kriitiline) asi, kuid näe võtab aega, et targemateni jõuaks
15 February 2017 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid kui oled vaena suht oled sunnitud ennast likvideerima. St. kui Sa ei saa määrate mis õlisi või toite sööd, kui üldse midagi on mida süüa
15 February 2017 04:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Not related, but just to save it:
"The American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM) urges doctors to prescribe non-GMO diets for all patients. They cite animal studies showing organ damage, gastrointestinal and immune system disorders, accelerated aging, and infertility. Human studies show how genetically modified (GM) food can leave material behind inside us, possibly causing long-term problems. Genes inserted into GM soy, for example, can transfer into the DNA of bacteria living inside us, and that the toxic insecticide produced by GM corn was found in the blood of pregnant women and their unborn fetuses
http://responsibletechnology.org/10-reasons-to-avoid-gmos/
"The American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM) urges doctors to prescribe non-GMO diets for all patients. They cite animal studies showing organ damage, gastrointestinal and immune system disorders, accelerated aging, and infertility. Human studies show how genetically modified (GM) food can leave material behind inside us, possibly causing long-term problems. Genes inserted into GM soy, for example, can transfer into the DNA of bacteria living inside us, and that the toxic insecticide produced by GM corn was found in the blood of pregnant women and their unborn fetuses
http://responsibletechnology.org/10-reasons-to-avoid-gmos/
http://responsibletechnology.org/10-reasons-to-avoid-gmos/
15 February 2017 04:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
tarkust jagada on üks asi, lugeda teine.. ja käiku panna veel kolmas,
15 February 2017 04:27
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
still have not figured out how the songs will play out in reverced way in our soul .. and will it be working really like that.
is there songs that sound better when one play in reverced?
is there songs that sound better when one play in reverced?
15 February 2017 04:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
rahvuslikult muidu tore, et veel lubatud sellised klipid on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbTBvGxlrSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbTBvGxlrSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbTBvGxlrSw
15 February 2017 04:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Meil Eestlastel pole seda arvuti ... vajagi... jõest saab kala, mullast kartulit ja sauna aknast näeb paljaid naisi ka. "
Muidugi sauna eriti palju enam ei tehta aga..
Muidugi sauna eriti palju enam ei tehta aga..
15 February 2017 04:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Rojaalsus ei ole meie maalt päris kadunud veel, seni kuni elus inimesi kellele antakse õige platform enda selgituseks
https://youtu.be/TQyRjs787-I?t=900
https://youtu.be/TQyRjs787-I?t=900
https://youtu.be/TQyRjs787-I?t=900
15 February 2017 03:56
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
nu eks ta on ka
15 February 2017 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Demokraatiat ei tohi kehtestada haigete inimeste seas, siis võtavad võimu haiged ja asuvad meedikuid ravima
15 February 2017 02:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
reaalses maailmas
15 February 2017 01:47
Margus Meigo commented on Fredi Zaikov's photo.
Nu mida see väljendama peaks ?
15 February 2017 01:47
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
pole eriti julgustav
15 February 2017 01:23
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
karm..
15 February 2017 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i mean, i mostly got les income, in multitudes less, then people un wealthware and whoare below proverty line
So yes.. i see the communist plan on it but as long we do with it what is needed, it can be good thing, maybe even for long time
u know, having not much to eat, places to sleep as home or to go to toilet, in winter, ,..even that you have to pay..so it is bothersome and will change your values a bit at times.
So yes.. i see the communist plan on it but as long we do with it what is needed, it can be good thing, maybe even for long time
u know, having not much to eat, places to sleep as home or to go to toilet, in winter, ,..even that you have to pay..so it is bothersome and will change your values a bit at times.
15 February 2017 01:04
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
wel i need it 5 y ago
15 February 2017 01:01
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
okey that was to much
Kuid yea mõelda vaid, et me elame ajastul, kus selline show ei ole kaugeltki hulleim mida vaadata
Kuid yea mõelda vaid, et me elame ajastul, kus selline show ei ole kaugeltki hulleim mida vaadata
14 February 2017 23:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this years football is watched
14 February 2017 23:08
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
omg this just to much :D
14 February 2017 23:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
bbc like voice manipulation, just this time there was not much to manipulate about
14 February 2017 23:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
can not stand this kind of news narrators, ...not as bad as it can get but clearly from same schol
14 February 2017 23:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(paremäärmuslikud loomakaitsjad, https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater)
14 February 2017 22:33
Margus Meigo commented on Ain Raie's post.
loomaõiguslased sainna turismireisile saata, et nad sügavalt sassi ajada
14 February 2017 22:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" During the trip, says Fern, the couple started to look subjectively at their own and each other's lives. "I started to see the events of my life not from an emotional perspective, but as facts. This is your life, these are things that have happened, this is your role in them, this is how others around you have been affected. I realised the lengths I'd gone to suppress certain negative thoughts and feelings and by acknowledging that, I could release them."
The couple found that during the trip they felt more connected and had an increased understanding of each other. "We were cuddling and it felt like we were melting into each other, it was like we could see each other's souls," says Fern. "You discover each other's troubles and fears, and don't judge them."
The couple found that during the trip they felt more connected and had an increased understanding of each other. "We were cuddling and it felt like we were melting into each other, it was like we could see each other's souls," says Fern. "You discover each other's troubles and fears, and don't judge them."
14 February 2017 14:25
Margus Meigo commented on Sonya Morley's post.
Group: Proud To Be A Democrat
everyone forgets about MAIN MOST IMPORTANT POINT, is He faitful to wife and God?14 February 2017 11:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Tutvus
sms 522904114 February 2017 03:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Tutvus
Head valentiini ka!14 February 2017 03:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
is
14 February 2017 03:12
Margus Meigo commented on Noin viikon studio's video.
Actually Estonia was firs,t really.
14 February 2017 03:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kahju, et sellele kunagi isegi tähelepanu ei jõudnud enne pööramahakata kui see juba lahendatudsai
14 February 2017 02:12
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
ma arvasin, et kommunism, rooma impeerium ikkagi on, pransuse revolutsioon.. aga kolesterool hoopis..
14 February 2017 02:12
Margus Meigo commented on Charlie Darrell's photo.
almoust like a poster
14 February 2017 01:52
Margus Meigo commented on Karin Hansalu's photo.
5+ pilt
14 February 2017 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on André Luis De Bourbon Gouvea's photo.
any sing that trick us to wear them.. show by it, to their kind, that "this one is our puppy"
like wearing tie,
i also not drink cocacola because not the harm if there is any but because it is cheating top of that and not want to support their kind of product if looking practically. as farmer.
but do not get to stressed about it, as You told, You really are, understanding, will separate us from wrong and join more with good, eventually
so yeah, but of-course there is other people who worry much more about pentagrams
like wearing tie,
i also not drink cocacola because not the harm if there is any but because it is cheating top of that and not want to support their kind of product if looking practically. as farmer.
but do not get to stressed about it, as You told, You really are, understanding, will separate us from wrong and join more with good, eventually
so yeah, but of-course there is other people who worry much more about pentagrams
13 February 2017 23:33
Margus Meigo commented on André Luis De Bourbon Gouvea's photo.
but most of all, these are the symbols who use and in large plan eliminate our kind so this is why i would not even advertise them
but they are in all places now.. money.. Internet browser, favorite logos, pop stars... but we can, when people stop using good symbol of Hindu cross then they are able to do same for a the ones who much more larger plans have that are not the best
but they are in all places now.. money.. Internet browser, favorite logos, pop stars... but we can, when people stop using good symbol of Hindu cross then they are able to do same for a the ones who much more larger plans have that are not the best
13 February 2017 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on André Luis De Bourbon Gouvea's photo.
symbol only helps You in a way they need
13 February 2017 23:26
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
igatahes mul jah v'ga suur error tekib ku isee tyyp seda laulu laulab, pea alati
13 February 2017 23:19
Margus Meigo commented on André Luis De Bourbon Gouvea's photo.
ai ai ai, pentagram, and we worry about European Union - EU my friend and bad forces.. they got hardcore methods, in other worlds also i assume
13 February 2017 21:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
rahulikult magama minnes naeratades, et ei saanud, selle mõttega, et see ainuke võimalus, et reaalselt lähemale jõuda kui uuesti peaks lähemale jõudma olukorrale kus toimetamise edukuse võimalus on kõrge
13 February 2017 06:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.OSKUS MITTE PÜÜÜDA SELLE LAINEGA LIIALT EDASI
minna, kuid oodata mööna möödumist ja siis rahulikult nii palju allesjääänuga kui mäletad naturaalselt uuesti järgmise tõusu ajal
elu lainetesse tuunimine, raske , kuid vajalik oskus
minna, kuid oodata mööna möödumist ja siis rahulikult nii palju allesjääänuga kui mäletad naturaalselt uuesti järgmise tõusu ajal
elu lainetesse tuunimine, raske , kuid vajalik oskus
13 February 2017 06:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
// Meta 2
ARRH..
// Meta 2
ARRH..
13 February 2017 05:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
// Meta Text
yes this is ,m will e also basic of hear, of mind, of "database Laws" of the engine,
..
Hybrid electronics will be basic engine for network intelligence and database methods (where in natural Apathcse extends to printing in hard time proof remembering platform to saving data in to human home celler, as temporali base in where digital base has hardware ide adress in where, is instructions for hardware based on what real life steps data can be instructed to be sent back with whatever methods can be applied, )
// Meta Text
yes this is ,m will e also basic of hear, of mind, of "database Laws" of the engine,
..
Hybrid electronics will be basic engine for network intelligence and database methods (where in natural Apathcse extends to printing in hard time proof remembering platform to saving data in to human home celler, as temporali base in where digital base has hardware ide adress in where, is instructions for hardware based on what real life steps data can be instructed to be sent back with whatever methods can be applied, )
13 February 2017 05:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
can you imagine how many people can be using Margus account, and can write these messages as hybrid AI ?
13 February 2017 05:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
ott u biggot :p
You liket it, what do You mean?
(so now i know.. how can one like if they realize whatthey like.. so how they know what is in mind of who really posted, so how can one be sure about their Like to be true so better most in safe way will react not... but ... did they inside ?
Anyway. yes, i would also know often not about what would i like from my wall, and what can, i have been liked also at times)
You liket it, what do You mean?
(so now i know.. how can one like if they realize whatthey like.. so how they know what is in mind of who really posted, so how can one be sure about their Like to be true so better most in safe way will react not... but ... did they inside ?
Anyway. yes, i would also know often not about what would i like from my wall, and what can, i have been liked also at times)
13 February 2017 05:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(tean kyll leian, sepatöödega tegelejad ka, vähene reaalne sugu mis siin ilmas veel alles jäänud, kuid oma silmaga olen näinud,. imeline)
13 February 2017 05:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
no i did not repeat, i tell you.. aargh. you !!
13 February 2017 05:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
i did not do it again
i repeat
i repeat
13 February 2017 05:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Genpack guy
talking about changing dimensions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfqlFGg2B6w
talking about changing dimensions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfqlFGg2B6w
13 February 2017 03:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
..
Others
Apart from academic research, a number of writers also suggest factors that facilitate collective intelligence.
Bloom (2000, p. 42-44) [64] says that the following five elements cause a group to be intelligent (a “collective learning machine”):
Conformity enforcers – mechanisms that cause similarities among most members of the group
Diversity generators – mechanisms that cause some differences among members of the group
Inner judges – mechanisms that cause individual members of a group to reward themselves for successes and to punish themselves for failures.
Resource shifters – mechanisms that shift resources (such as money, admiration, and influence) to members of the group who are successful and away from those who aren’t.
Intergroup tournaments – competitions between subgroups (such as games, corporate competitions, and wars)
(Note: Logically, it seems that a system could work without elements (3) and (5).)
Surowiecki (2004, p. xviii – xix, and chapters 2-4) [65] says that three conditions are necessary for a group to be intelligent (for a “crowd to be wise”):
Diversity – the group includes members with a wide diversity of knowledge or abilities (and the ability to recognize successful and unsuccessful outcomes)
Independence – group members use their own knowledge and abilities without being overly influenced by others.(When group members influence each other too much, various kinds of bad outcomes can results. See section on “Groupthink and Informational Cascades” below.)
A particular kind of decentralization – group members’ actions are aggregated in a way that finds the right balance between (a) “making individual knowledge globally and collective useful”, and (b) “still allowing it to remain resolutely specific and local” (p. 72).
Others
Apart from academic research, a number of writers also suggest factors that facilitate collective intelligence.
Bloom (2000, p. 42-44) [64] says that the following five elements cause a group to be intelligent (a “collective learning machine”):
Conformity enforcers – mechanisms that cause similarities among most members of the group
Diversity generators – mechanisms that cause some differences among members of the group
Inner judges – mechanisms that cause individual members of a group to reward themselves for successes and to punish themselves for failures.
Resource shifters – mechanisms that shift resources (such as money, admiration, and influence) to members of the group who are successful and away from those who aren’t.
Intergroup tournaments – competitions between subgroups (such as games, corporate competitions, and wars)
(Note: Logically, it seems that a system could work without elements (3) and (5).)
Surowiecki (2004, p. xviii – xix, and chapters 2-4) [65] says that three conditions are necessary for a group to be intelligent (for a “crowd to be wise”):
Diversity – the group includes members with a wide diversity of knowledge or abilities (and the ability to recognize successful and unsuccessful outcomes)
Independence – group members use their own knowledge and abilities without being overly influenced by others.(When group members influence each other too much, various kinds of bad outcomes can results. See section on “Groupthink and Informational Cascades” below.)
A particular kind of decentralization – group members’ actions are aggregated in a way that finds the right balance between (a) “making individual knowledge globally and collective useful”, and (b) “still allowing it to remain resolutely specific and local” (p. 72).
13 February 2017 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And now we getting somewhere:
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In 2015, the company reported net revenues of US$2.46 billion with more than 70,000 employees in 25 countries.[5] Genpact has a few hundred clients, including approximately one-fifth of the Fortune Global 500.[6]
It was founded in 1997 as a business unit within General Electric. In January 2005, Genpact became an independent company and in August 2007 publicly traded.[7] Bain Capital became its largest shareholder in November 2012.[8]
In 2015, Business Today ranked Genpact second in its BPO, KPO, and ITES category[clarification needed] and 21st in its overall category for “Top 25 Best Companies to Work For” in India.[9] In 2016, CareerBliss ranked Genpact 23rd in its “Top 50 Happiest Companies in Animals of America
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Genpact is a global business process management and services and IT corporation[1] with key offices in New York City, United States.[2] It’s listed on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol G.[3][4]
In 2015, the company reported net revenues of US$2.46 billion with more than 70,000 employees in 25 countries.[5] Genpact has a few hundred clients, including approximately one-fifth of the Fortune Global 500.[6]
It was founded in 1997 as a business unit within General Electric. In January 2005, Genpact became an independent company and in August 2007 publicly traded.[7] Bain Capital became its largest shareholder in November 2012.[8]
In 2015, Business Today ranked Genpact second in its BPO, KPO, and ITES category[clarification needed] and 21st in its overall category for “Top 25 Best Companies to Work For” in India.[9] In 2016, CareerBliss ranked Genpact 23rd in its “Top 50 Happiest Companies in Animals of America
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13 February 2017 02:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
While people have talked about collective intelligence for decades, new communication technologies—especially the Internet—now allow huge numbers of people all over the planet to work together in new ways. The successes of systems like Google and Wikipedia suggest that the time is now ripe for many more such systems, and the goal of the MIT Center for Collective Intelligence is to understand how to take advantage of these possibilities.
Our basic research question is: How can people and computers be connected so that—collectively—they act more intelligently than any person, group, or computer has ever done before?
The MIT Center for Collective Intelligence brings together faculty from across MIT to conduct research on how people and computers can work together more intelligently and on the underlying scientific questions that help make this possible.
http://cci.mit.edu/
Our basic research question is: How can people and computers be connected so that—collectively—they act more intelligently than any person, group, or computer has ever done before?
The MIT Center for Collective Intelligence brings together faculty from across MIT to conduct research on how people and computers can work together more intelligently and on the underlying scientific questions that help make this possible.
http://cci.mit.edu/
http://cci.mit.edu/
13 February 2017 02:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
This Handbook provides a survey of the field of collective intelligence, summarizing what is known, providing references to sources for further information, and suggesting possibilities for future research.
The handbook is structured as a wiki, a collection of on-line pages, editable by their readers.
The handbook is hosted by the MIT Center for Collective Intelligence, but we hope that researchers and others from around the world will contribute to it. The process of creating this handbook could itself be an example of collective intelligence.
In parallel with this Wiki, we are developing a database of bibliographic references at citeUlike. The wikis here link to these references at citeUlike.
http://scripts.mit.edu/~cci/HCI/index.php?title=Main_Page
The handbook is structured as a wiki, a collection of on-line pages, editable by their readers.
The handbook is hosted by the MIT Center for Collective Intelligence, but we hope that researchers and others from around the world will contribute to it. The process of creating this handbook could itself be an example of collective intelligence.
In parallel with this Wiki, we are developing a database of bibliographic references at citeUlike. The wikis here link to these references at citeUlike.
http://scripts.mit.edu/~cci/HCI/index.php?title=Main_Page
http://scripts.mit.edu/~cci/HCI/index.php?title=Main_Page
13 February 2017 02:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://millennium-project.org/millennium/GFIS-paper.pdf
Collective Intelligence Systems for
Science and Technological Conv
ergences to Benefit Society
1
For the Handbook of Science and Technology Convergence
by
Jerome C. Glenn, CEO
The Millennium Project
Abstract
Accelerating growth of scientific knowledge,
technological advances, and their convergence
makes it increasingly difficult for scientists, polit
icians, and the public to keep track of such
changes and make informed decisions. Collective in
telligence systems provide an alternative to
relational databases, ema
il networks, conventional websites, a
nd social media. There are several
definitions for “collective intelligence” and its app
lications. I define collective intelligence as an
emergent property from synergies among three
elements: 1) data/information/knowledge; 2)
software/hardware; and 3) experts
and others with insight that c
ontinually learns from feedback
to produce just-in-time knowledge
for better decisions than any
of these elements acting alone.
In addition to a brief overview of collective inte
lligence systems and why they are needed, this
article will explain how The Millen
nium Project (MP) is creating its own collective intelligence
system and how it can help scientists, politicia
ns, and the public bette
r understand change and
participate in building and improving co
llective intelligence for S&T convergence.
Key words: collective intellig
ence; science and technology inte
gration; Millennium Project;
foresight; futures research; Global Futures Intelligence System
1
This
article
is
drawn
in
part
from
articles
by
the
author
in
Futura
4/2009,
World
Future
Review
(Fall
2013),
and
Technological
Forecasting
&
Social
Change
(2013)
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.techfore.2013.10.010
Collective Intelligence Systems for
Science and Technological Conv
ergences to Benefit Society
1
For the Handbook of Science and Technology Convergence
by
Jerome C. Glenn, CEO
The Millennium Project
Abstract
Accelerating growth of scientific knowledge,
technological advances, and their convergence
makes it increasingly difficult for scientists, polit
icians, and the public to keep track of such
changes and make informed decisions. Collective in
telligence systems provide an alternative to
relational databases, ema
il networks, conventional websites, a
nd social media. There are several
definitions for “collective intelligence” and its app
lications. I define collective intelligence as an
emergent property from synergies among three
elements: 1) data/information/knowledge; 2)
software/hardware; and 3) experts
and others with insight that c
ontinually learns from feedback
to produce just-in-time knowledge
for better decisions than any
of these elements acting alone.
In addition to a brief overview of collective inte
lligence systems and why they are needed, this
article will explain how The Millen
nium Project (MP) is creating its own collective intelligence
system and how it can help scientists, politicia
ns, and the public bette
r understand change and
participate in building and improving co
llective intelligence for S&T convergence.
Key words: collective intellig
ence; science and technology inte
gration; Millennium Project;
foresight; futures research; Global Futures Intelligence System
1
This
article
is
drawn
in
part
from
articles
by
the
author
in
Futura
4/2009,
World
Future
Review
(Fall
2013),
and
Technological
Forecasting
&
Social
Change
(2013)
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.techfore.2013.10.010
13 February 2017 02:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hmm
Meetings:
2014: July 7-8, Santo Domingo, Domincan Republic
2013
2012
2011
June, Baku, Azerbaijan
July, Toronto, Canada
July, Vancouver, Canada
2010
2009
2008
July, Boston, MA
July, Chicago, IL
July, Washington, DC
2007
2006
2005
July, Minneapolis, MN
July, Toronto, Canada
July, Chicago, IL
April, Wallonia, Belgium
2004
2003
2002
July, Washington, DC
March, Sao Paulo, Brazil
July, San Francisco, CA
Feb, Washington, DC
July, Philadelphia, PA
March, Washington, D.C.
2001
2000
1999
July, Minneapolis, Minnesota Feb., Washington, DC
July, Houston, Texas
Feb., Washington, D.C.
July, Washington, D.C.
Feb., Washington, D.C.
1998
1997
1996
July, Chicago, IL
Feb., Washington, D.C.
Sept., Washington, D.C.
Feb., Washington, D.C.
July, Washington, D.C.
First MPPC Meeting, Washington, D.C.
Planning Committee Links
Planning Committee Members and staff
Photo Gallery
Meetings:
2014: July 7-8, Santo Domingo, Domincan Republic
2013
2012
2011
June, Baku, Azerbaijan
July, Toronto, Canada
July, Vancouver, Canada
2010
2009
2008
July, Boston, MA
July, Chicago, IL
July, Washington, DC
2007
2006
2005
July, Minneapolis, MN
July, Toronto, Canada
July, Chicago, IL
April, Wallonia, Belgium
2004
2003
2002
July, Washington, DC
March, Sao Paulo, Brazil
July, San Francisco, CA
Feb, Washington, DC
July, Philadelphia, PA
March, Washington, D.C.
2001
2000
1999
July, Minneapolis, Minnesota Feb., Washington, DC
July, Houston, Texas
Feb., Washington, D.C.
July, Washington, D.C.
Feb., Washington, D.C.
1998
1997
1996
July, Chicago, IL
Feb., Washington, D.C.
Sept., Washington, D.C.
Feb., Washington, D.C.
July, Washington, D.C.
First MPPC Meeting, Washington, D.C.
Planning Committee Links
Planning Committee Members and staff
Photo Gallery
13 February 2017 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i hve to fit mine on to busines card,
Short description
The Millennium Project (MP) is integrating all of its information, groups, and software into a "Global Futures Intelligence System" (GFIS). GFIS* is The Millennium Project’s new way for you to participate with and have access to all of our resources in one place. Those who buy a one-year subscription can interact with all the elements of the system, make suggestions, initiate discussions with experts around the world, and search through over 10,000 pages of futures research and 1,300 pages of methods. The text has built-in Google translation with 52 languages. MP Node chairs and content reviewers will have free access.
Instead of publishing the State of the Future once a year, the material is being updated in the Global Futures Intelligence System on a continual basis – the same is true with Futures Research Methodology – you do not have to wait five or so years to get a new version. Some Real-Time Delphi studies and other research are also being made available as soon as they are completed, and will be accessible for discussion of conclusions.
The GFIS is not just new software, vast information, and global experts; it is also a system to produce synergies among these three elements for greater intelligence than their separate values. It is rather a global intelligence utility from which governments, UN agencies, businesses, NGOs, universities, media, and consultants can draw different values. The GFIS staff is more interested in synergistic intelligence than competitive intelligence, and how the world can work for all, not just for a single nation, ideology, or issue. It can provide decision makers, advisors, and educators with insights that reflect the consensus and/or range of views on the important issues of our time. The engagement of the user with our information, participants, and software is intended to help humanity become more proactive.
Introduction to the Global Futures Intelligence System
Subscribe to GFIS
To subscribe to the Global Futures Intelligence System (GFIS) please choose one of the following options: (clicking on the button will take you to a secure order and payment form provided by 2checkout.com)
* includes 10 users; additional users beyond 10 cost $25/year
The breadth and depth of the information available on GFIS is acknowledged around the world for its value for understanding what is important to know about global change. GFIS can help save time by being one source to both search across the total of MP systems and pose questions to expert groups.
For example, each of the 15 Global Challenges has a menu with ten sections:
Situation Chart – briefing on the current situation, desired situation (and range of views where agreement is not clear), and policies to address the challenge.
Overview – the text from the State of the Future, with a ~two-page executive summary and longer (100+ pages) explanation of the situation and prospects, strategies, regional considerations, range of views, and indicators for that challenge.
Updates – this lists recent edits, updates, and improvements to the text, who did them and when.
News - RSS feeds from the best news sources we can find for the challenge.
Scanning – important information items to address the challenge that do not disappear over time as do the news items; staff and expert reviewers bring these into the system from news feeds, websites, and their own sources. Scanning items are also annotated as their meaning can change over time, and they can also be deletes as more relevant items are found.
Digests – Just the latest scanning items, edits, and news.
Real-Time Delphi – questions can be added for rating and comments. As patterns become clear – consensus or multi-modal – they can be added to the situation chart or text of the challenge. New questions can be added anytime from the discussion section or by the leaders of the challenge.
Discussion – this section is similar to a blog or a listserv, allowing for the creation of specific conversations, and the ability to subscribe to some discussions and not others – allowing the user to get a daily or weekly digest of the specific selected discussions.
Computer Models – participants can add links to, and use, models relevant to the challenge
Resources – best websites, books, and videos about the challenge, plus some related papers.
All of this can be computer-searched. Even the scans and news feeds can be organized by key word to suit your preferences.
In addition to the options available for the Global Challenges, subscribers also have unlimited access to other features that include:
Smartphone access to quickly get key facts, new concepts, future developments, scenarios, data by searching the CIS on the move
Ability to create Real-Time Delphi studies
Coaching to create special State of the Future Indexes for issues, industry sectors, etc.
International video conferencing
Ability to meet and talk with MP Node chairs and other experts around the world
Access to over 850 annotated scenario sets – a totally unique resource
Articles from the leading authorities around the world, some before publication, some peer-reviewed for inclusion, some that will be available only in the GFIS
Access and use .ppt's for briefings
Ability to contribute your own insights, new products, and services that a world futures community would find interesting
Access to special studies on the future of S&T, energy, education, economics, environmental security, Latin America, arts/media/entertainment, global water issues, changing gender stereotypes, business organizations, and others.
Use of tools like the Futures Matrix that provides a way to organize vast quantities of information
Ability to create special interest groups
The GFIS dramatically increases participation in its improvement and applications. It offers easy ways to ask questions and get feedback from globally diverse experts, thought leaders on global affairs, policy advisors for governments, strategic planners for major corporations, and university professors who teach courses about the global strategic landscape or one or more of the Global Challenges.
You are welcome to take a look around the parts that are open and free to the public – short versions of the 15 Global Challenges, some discussions, news feeds, scanned items, the Futures Matrix, and other items that are publically available on the main website of The Millennium Project. The GFIS site is: www.themp.org
* The Millennium Project defines “Collective Intelligence” as an emergent property from synergies among
1) data/info/knowledge/intelligence/wisdom,
2) software/hardware,
3) experts and others with insight
that continually learns from feedback to produce (nearly) just in time knowledge for better decisions than these elements acting alone.
For more information see also the article Collective Intelligence Systems for Science and Technological Convergences to Benefit Society by Jerome Glenn (pdf file)
Short description
The Millennium Project (MP) is integrating all of its information, groups, and software into a "Global Futures Intelligence System" (GFIS). GFIS* is The Millennium Project’s new way for you to participate with and have access to all of our resources in one place. Those who buy a one-year subscription can interact with all the elements of the system, make suggestions, initiate discussions with experts around the world, and search through over 10,000 pages of futures research and 1,300 pages of methods. The text has built-in Google translation with 52 languages. MP Node chairs and content reviewers will have free access.
Instead of publishing the State of the Future once a year, the material is being updated in the Global Futures Intelligence System on a continual basis – the same is true with Futures Research Methodology – you do not have to wait five or so years to get a new version. Some Real-Time Delphi studies and other research are also being made available as soon as they are completed, and will be accessible for discussion of conclusions.
The GFIS is not just new software, vast information, and global experts; it is also a system to produce synergies among these three elements for greater intelligence than their separate values. It is rather a global intelligence utility from which governments, UN agencies, businesses, NGOs, universities, media, and consultants can draw different values. The GFIS staff is more interested in synergistic intelligence than competitive intelligence, and how the world can work for all, not just for a single nation, ideology, or issue. It can provide decision makers, advisors, and educators with insights that reflect the consensus and/or range of views on the important issues of our time. The engagement of the user with our information, participants, and software is intended to help humanity become more proactive.
Introduction to the Global Futures Intelligence System
Subscribe to GFIS
To subscribe to the Global Futures Intelligence System (GFIS) please choose one of the following options: (clicking on the button will take you to a secure order and payment form provided by 2checkout.com)
* includes 10 users; additional users beyond 10 cost $25/year
The breadth and depth of the information available on GFIS is acknowledged around the world for its value for understanding what is important to know about global change. GFIS can help save time by being one source to both search across the total of MP systems and pose questions to expert groups.
For example, each of the 15 Global Challenges has a menu with ten sections:
Situation Chart – briefing on the current situation, desired situation (and range of views where agreement is not clear), and policies to address the challenge.
Overview – the text from the State of the Future, with a ~two-page executive summary and longer (100+ pages) explanation of the situation and prospects, strategies, regional considerations, range of views, and indicators for that challenge.
Updates – this lists recent edits, updates, and improvements to the text, who did them and when.
News - RSS feeds from the best news sources we can find for the challenge.
Scanning – important information items to address the challenge that do not disappear over time as do the news items; staff and expert reviewers bring these into the system from news feeds, websites, and their own sources. Scanning items are also annotated as their meaning can change over time, and they can also be deletes as more relevant items are found.
Digests – Just the latest scanning items, edits, and news.
Real-Time Delphi – questions can be added for rating and comments. As patterns become clear – consensus or multi-modal – they can be added to the situation chart or text of the challenge. New questions can be added anytime from the discussion section or by the leaders of the challenge.
Discussion – this section is similar to a blog or a listserv, allowing for the creation of specific conversations, and the ability to subscribe to some discussions and not others – allowing the user to get a daily or weekly digest of the specific selected discussions.
Computer Models – participants can add links to, and use, models relevant to the challenge
Resources – best websites, books, and videos about the challenge, plus some related papers.
All of this can be computer-searched. Even the scans and news feeds can be organized by key word to suit your preferences.
In addition to the options available for the Global Challenges, subscribers also have unlimited access to other features that include:
Smartphone access to quickly get key facts, new concepts, future developments, scenarios, data by searching the CIS on the move
Ability to create Real-Time Delphi studies
Coaching to create special State of the Future Indexes for issues, industry sectors, etc.
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13 February 2017 02:43
Margus Meigo replied to Paul Francis Corry's comment.
what do You want me to know most?
13 February 2017 02:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
... if i would have made back to there more early..
ten about version to look world together, will stay, you say was more likely
you one of the few ones who was able to make sense out of me with ease
ten about version to look world together, will stay, you say was more likely
you one of the few ones who was able to make sense out of me with ease
13 February 2017 02:39
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis van Kaldalu's photo.
Kuulus Telegrammi stuudio :D
Toimetad sääl omi asju veel?
Toimetad sääl omi asju veel?
13 February 2017 02:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
loodame, et põrandasoojustusega köök on
13 February 2017 02:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so there is stability and hope,
13 February 2017 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Laurie Colson
i still have not find no wife, no idea, what is reason, i try to be traditional but with progressive ideas
i still have not find no wife, no idea, what is reason, i try to be traditional but with progressive ideas
13 February 2017 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but looking these squares, there might be some hidden agenda ...
but yes, in a country dirt floors ones wife can not do it, lucky city man and their wifes..
but yes, in a country dirt floors ones wife can not do it, lucky city man and their wifes..
13 February 2017 02:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Näpuotsaga peenekoelist muigavat irooniat ka kuid samas nu nii on ka, ilus , arusaada
13 February 2017 02:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
13 February 2017 02:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i still got few in sleeve
13 February 2017 01:57
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
they picking up better names by the day
13 February 2017 01:56
Margus Meigo commented on Por Siempre Israel's photo.
si sir : )
@Netanyahu stated: " the time has come of reciprocity in relationships in the un with Israel. Gifts can't be constantly giving the Palestinian side. The time has come that the posts and the appointments were likewise to the Israeli side " and stressed: " if there is a proper appointment, we will consider it ".
@Netanyahu stated: " the time has come of reciprocity in relationships in the un with Israel. Gifts can't be constantly giving the Palestinian side. The time has come that the posts and the appointments were likewise to the Israeli side " and stressed: " if there is a proper appointment, we will consider it ".
13 February 2017 00:05
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
yes this is official story: http://www.songwriteruniverse.com/toby-gad-john-legend-2014.htm
But it does not please me, as it seems something spiritually strange around that song .. and will meditate on it
(postitus muidu meelega oli pool provokatsiooni mõttes pantud sedasi, et pole tema song)
But it does not please me, as it seems something spiritually strange around that song .. and will meditate on it
(postitus muidu meelega oli pool provokatsiooni mõttes pantud sedasi, et pole tema song)
http://www.songwriteruniverse.com/toby-gad-john-legend-2014.htm
11 February 2017 01:11
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
kuigi siin yhiskonnas soovitakse eeldada, et suurt vahet ple
kuigi üleliia kurta pole ka selle tavapärase seletuse üle mõtet, kiuid ma ütlen... selle lauluga on ikkagi mulkin...
vaimselt see puhtalt ei sobi mehele laulmiseks, kuid ma ei oska selgitada veel miks
http://www.thomasvan.com/song-translations/the-meaning-of-all-of-me-by-john-legendhttp://www.thomasvan.com/song-translations/the-meaning-of-all-of-me-by-john-legend
kuigi üleliia kurta pole ka selle tavapärase seletuse üle mõtet, kiuid ma ütlen... selle lauluga on ikkagi mulkin...
vaimselt see puhtalt ei sobi mehele laulmiseks, kuid ma ei oska selgitada veel miks
http://www.thomasvan.com/song-translations/the-meaning-of-all-of-me-by-john-legendhttp://www.thomasvan.com/song-translations/the-meaning-of-all-of-me-by-john-legend
http://www.thomasvan.com/song-translations/the-meaning-of-all-of-me-by-john-legendhttp://www.thomasvan.com/song-translations/the-meaning-of-all-of-me-by-john-legend
11 February 2017 01:02
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
kuigi pool laulust on sooliselt sobiv naise poolt laulda ja mingid osad aga ainult mehe poolt
11 February 2017 01:01
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
ütleb küll, et Chrissy Teigenile kirjutatud, aga mind see ei rahulda,
sest sõnade vaimne sooline õigsus on see mis loole väärtuse annab,
kuid ma ple veel kindel kuidas seda tunnetust kirjeldada
sest sõnade vaimne sooline õigsus on see mis loole väärtuse annab,
kuid ma ple veel kindel kuidas seda tunnetust kirjeldada
11 February 2017 01:01
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
tean, sellepärast meelega nii räägingi ju, point on ju sõnade kõlas ja mida need sõnad eeldaksid, kui nad on tõsi
11 February 2017 00:58
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
nii mõeldakse
11 February 2017 00:57
Margus Meigo replied to Richard Warfield's comment.
but as my friend told, miracles we can do in a second, impossible takes a little bit longer
11 February 2017 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to Richard Warfield's comment.
Jeffrey Allan Backowski II not that we know we can not win, but we know is no less then miracle needed to get it done and is not reasonable to depend on soon coming change but keep up doing good what we doo
11 February 2017 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on Heiki Herman Soome's post.
Group: Ellujäämine = lahkumine Euroliidust
attacemnt on kaduma läinud10 February 2017 23:55
Margus Meigo replied to Mianni Cari's comment.
10 February 2017 23:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Real AMERICANS And The World United Against Trumpenfuhrer!!!!
give peace a chance right10 February 2017 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on Sandie Johanesen's post.
Group: Real AMERICANS And The World United Against Trumpenfuhrer!!!!
oh he say so so lets do it10 February 2017 23:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so they wonder, what it possibly can be, talking part stories, barely understandable, ... but still on legal borders right?
//not to another dimension also from here
and note about dimension
//not to another dimension also from here
and note about dimension
10 February 2017 05:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// can imagine how confusing
uncofusing or totally impossible for third viewer, would be to understand that from some point of view in where they do not know
uncofusing or totally impossible for third viewer, would be to understand that from some point of view in where they do not know
10 February 2017 05:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
really they do, and if you want some also later better agree :p
no seriously, development still have to happen
no seriously, development still have to happen
10 February 2017 05:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
you know, just becouse someone is old, they got some extra rights and Rights
10 February 2017 05:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(but talking about president Triump, he is also old man who has to be perhaps respected normally by also same gentleman or country folk way )
10 February 2017 05:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i want to give all i got to a womens but them make it hard when developing ground is provided by man
10 February 2017 05:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but any social program should withstand and integrate women unpredictability for self preservation,
10 February 2017 05:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
if resources provided
in allowing in development
naturally, no owertech just by natural needs
in allowing in development
naturally, no owertech just by natural needs
10 February 2017 05:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and worth my work
10 February 2017 05:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
oh and now i can give opinion also of this story, i think it is brilliant
10 February 2017 05:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and when you told
about meeting in park, in the end, for sure this is elementary good point for me to eventually meet with most of who i am interacting up to now
about meeting in park, in the end, for sure this is elementary good point for me to eventually meet with most of who i am interacting up to now
10 February 2017 05:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
still not sure about that:
thing what blow off, furn.. something you say..
thing what blow off, furn.. something you say..
10 February 2017 05:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
bck to wrk nw, about looking your first reply that i still have not jet, but will try to get there now
10 February 2017 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
time is up thing i understand what it is some dimension thingy,
then some gates close, epic things happen, but if it comes out you just play like that then we agree it was silly (for knowing there is Nothing in the world that can get in the way of time (?))
this reminds me i should have written down another dimension explanation comparison proof,
then some gates close, epic things happen, but if it comes out you just play like that then we agree it was silly (for knowing there is Nothing in the world that can get in the way of time (?))
this reminds me i should have written down another dimension explanation comparison proof,
10 February 2017 05:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
not my style but beauty for me
10 February 2017 04:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but only if you Ericas allow to help us..
10 February 2017 04:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
A...m....Erica....
10 February 2017 04:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yes, G not a, should be larger ... but this is totally unneeded string, but America is still great, can be looked in future present as savior of women species mayor contributor among other big players.
ahjaa, Erica is also good name, erica looks little like that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x69HWI830W0&list=PLKoC-ctkXDfLIt2FLsGNAFyM-91B2mrPx
ahjaa, Erica is also good name, erica looks little like that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x69HWI830W0&list=PLKoC-ctkXDfLIt2FLsGNAFyM-91B2mrPx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x69HWI830W0&list=PLKoC-ctkXDfLIt2FLsGNAFyM-91B2mrPx
10 February 2017 04:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or just in case, would be romantic to know American country girl
10 February 2017 04:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and i really meant call cell, if personal true emergency
10 February 2017 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mybe im link greator
10 February 2017 04:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i know is not nice to battle with demons but as i am main Link greator is it wize to link these beings uderstanding on to to much , to mainstream,
to much to mainstream
to much to mainstream
10 February 2017 04:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so maybe it is not so tchill where i am i think
10 February 2017 04:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
with some losses, maybe
10 February 2017 04:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but i managed by miracles to stay in rooms
10 February 2017 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but i am still a near homeless middle of minus 20 was for a moment
10 February 2017 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
well, jeffery also called
10 February 2017 04:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
should have chosen first read, as technically i can even fly to LA now to think about it
10 February 2017 04:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but yea, i guess normally it might be good filter you apply,
10 February 2017 04:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
man.. i wonder if this is why Freemasons does not allow man to have women relationships, as man mind will start to react like magnet around her reality whatever direction straight man wanna go it is always same with a woman..
so when high channelings come then man who is in need of women search will have hard to channel in peace as god head enjoys more of the talking with a women in any kind of contact even, or mind nearness
so when high channelings come then man who is in need of women search will have hard to channel in peace as god head enjoys more of the talking with a women in any kind of contact even, or mind nearness
10 February 2017 04:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i probably have to say sorry also some how, but working on it, if not much more, then this at least
10 February 2017 04:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in few dimensions
// dimension explanation, as parallel dimension does not must be identical one to compare on same parameters and situations, or point of views.
// dimension explanation, as parallel dimension does not must be identical one to compare on same parameters and situations, or point of views.
10 February 2017 04:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
whoa, i really break that setting, diddint i
10 February 2017 04:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but i can feel
10 February 2017 04:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and my cat did something i can not understand what
10 February 2017 04:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey, i try now go and look this color post for what i come back here... but as i told this chat system is .... for this kind of rightful conversation
10 February 2017 04:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but at times is more then worth so i keep on hoping on that, to get us all right in just all doing things a bit better for these as well who do not want to help betterment
10 February 2017 04:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
at times lacking more then spelling
10 February 2017 04:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
try to find right setting, instead try to answer most camply purelly... but
10 February 2017 04:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
even your little bit did after i screw up times many
10 February 2017 04:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and waisted is work not as if it takes forward
10 February 2017 04:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and irony about hard to hate part when women does things like that, to any one who, is purely accidentally coincidental, as my right choice of words at times, i feel need to assume just in case
10 February 2017 04:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
anyway, i continnue my trip now, just will see if there is the images i wanted to see and forgot to record
10 February 2017 04:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
10 February 2017 03:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
this women song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39_OmBO9jVg
//from ur playlist, small note also, Jane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39_OmBO9jVg
//from ur playlist, small note also, Jane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39_OmBO9jVg
10 February 2017 02:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Loodame, et see tuleb ligemale
10 February 2017 01:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
it is a song..
10 February 2017 01:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" This video contains content from Disney, who has blocked it on copyright grounds. ..."
Aaargh really
Aaargh really
10 February 2017 01:56
Margus Meigo commented on Maarja Kattel's photo.
Imeideaalne
10 February 2017 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on Eliise Laurits's post.
Group: Tutvus
Sina tundud päris omapärane10 February 2017 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on Karina Juht's post.
Group: Tutvus
Huvitavuses enamasti pole muret.. kuid millistes osades10 February 2017 00:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Tutvus
kitarr ka?10 February 2017 00:38
Margus Meigo commented on Wilfred Parmas's post.
Group: Tutvus
Sa ikka tõsine tegelane :P10 February 2017 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on Tauno Tikko's post.
Group: Tutvus
näed suts nagu PKestonia välja :P10 February 2017 00:35
Margus Meigo commented on Angela Lauk's post.
Group: Tutvus
Selliste kampsunitega tüdrukud on tõetruumad : )10 February 2017 00:34
Margus Meigo commented on Kerttu Gertrud Lander's post.
Group: Tutvus
Ootan ka, kui vaid oleks sarnaseid huvisi (Maailmaparandus, Unistamine, Uskumine, Majandamine kõrgete inimestega, Seiklemine, Loodus, Pere, Sügavus, Võlumaailmad ja võlu taimed...)10 February 2017 00:33
Margus Meigo commented on Dairi Reppo's post.
oi misasjad Sulle meeldivad...
10 February 2017 00:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Päris populaarne saade olnud, kommentaare on palju.
http://etv.err.ee/v/paevakajasaated/suud_puhtaks/saated/dd163d96-115e-4349-9d25-85e7cb85be73/suud-puhtaks
http://etv.err.ee/v/paevakajasaated/suud_puhtaks/saated/dd163d96-115e-4349-9d25-85e7cb85be73/suud-puhtaks
9 February 2017 18:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ma muidu vahest viin kurssi mida lipsumehed räägivad, kuid enamasti see on ikka lipsumeeste jutt. Võõbatud helesiniseks või mis iganes värvi neil mugav või nõutud kasutada on
9 February 2017 18:02
Margus Meigo commented on Eva Lepik's post.
Millise kanali saade?
9 February 2017 18:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see jutu viimane suur lõik, ärge sellele ülearu palju tähelepanu pöörake, jätsin igaks juhuks juurde
9 February 2017 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on Harri Kingo's post.
kuigi suurele koletisele on koletuimate asjade eest hulk maad lihtsam andestada kui see andestamise arusaam endil käes on kui miskile pool lähedasele inimesele kellel väike ebasiiras eksimus,
või päris lähedane, läheduse kaotamise süüdistusega,
kuid et sedasi andestada lähedastele
ikka päris heas vaimutrippis peab olema ja suur austus neile kes seda realselt ilma millegi ebameeldiva kõrvalnähuta ka suudavad heameelega
kuigi eks ainult enamasti me saame inimese andestuse võimet testida parimini ainult vaesuses jms kriisis, sest kui inimesel on elu mugav või rahaga pole suuri muresi, siis andestused enamuste asjade osas mis tehakse, oleks palju lihtsam sest tagajärjed oleks lihtsamini likvideeritavad ja vähem vaeva tekitavamad ja siis enese heaolu märgiks juba võtad sammu andestuseks, et ennast hästi tunda. Isegi kui kahju ei ole likvideeritav siis enamasti rikkuses olles peaks olema lihtsam andestada, kui oled vaimutarkuses, sest siis saad aru, mida kaotada võid kui aga vaene pole veel suurt midagi kaotada ka, sest ülessegi poole pole veel saanud, mis siis allapoole kukkumisest muretseda, eriti kui piiri kuhu kukkuda eriti ei olegi. Kui aga rikas siis astmeid saab olema tema eaolu juures mitmeid millesse ennast rakendada saab, et väiksemate rahadega ikka palju paremini ära elada ja andestuses lihtsamini kui vaene kellele võib stabiilse lihts kohe saamine juba ajutiseks esimeseks unistuseks olla mida ta veel püüdnud pole osanud hoida või saavutada meeldejäävalt
või päris lähedane, läheduse kaotamise süüdistusega,
kuid et sedasi andestada lähedastele
ikka päris heas vaimutrippis peab olema ja suur austus neile kes seda realselt ilma millegi ebameeldiva kõrvalnähuta ka suudavad heameelega
kuigi eks ainult enamasti me saame inimese andestuse võimet testida parimini ainult vaesuses jms kriisis, sest kui inimesel on elu mugav või rahaga pole suuri muresi, siis andestused enamuste asjade osas mis tehakse, oleks palju lihtsam sest tagajärjed oleks lihtsamini likvideeritavad ja vähem vaeva tekitavamad ja siis enese heaolu märgiks juba võtad sammu andestuseks, et ennast hästi tunda. Isegi kui kahju ei ole likvideeritav siis enamasti rikkuses olles peaks olema lihtsam andestada, kui oled vaimutarkuses, sest siis saad aru, mida kaotada võid kui aga vaene pole veel suurt midagi kaotada ka, sest ülessegi poole pole veel saanud, mis siis allapoole kukkumisest muretseda, eriti kui piiri kuhu kukkuda eriti ei olegi. Kui aga rikas siis astmeid saab olema tema eaolu juures mitmeid millesse ennast rakendada saab, et väiksemate rahadega ikka palju paremini ära elada ja andestuses lihtsamini kui vaene kellele võib stabiilse lihts kohe saamine juba ajutiseks esimeseks unistuseks olla mida ta veel püüdnud pole osanud hoida või saavutada meeldejäävalt
9 February 2017 03:04
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Sepper's comment.
kuid ega ta üldiselt kuri mote ei ole kuid kui õigesti teha siis saab ka sedasi
kuigi eks teise neamine paras üks trikitöö ole, nii, et ise heaskirjas oleksid,
kuid eks ka neada, saa õigetmoodi kuidas lubatum, sest juriidiliselt korrektne ja lõpusuund peab paika kuidas iganes hästi öeldud mõtteis, kuid seni kuni suund õige, siis endale peaks ainult valgus paistma,
kuid eks muidugi, see oleneb kas vaenlane on inimeste seas ja teeb ajutiselt ja ei saa aru, kuigi ei tahaks, või tegu vaenlasega, kes vahest head võib teeselda
kuigi eks teise neamine paras üks trikitöö ole, nii, et ise heaskirjas oleksid,
kuid eks ka neada, saa õigetmoodi kuidas lubatum, sest juriidiliselt korrektne ja lõpusuund peab paika kuidas iganes hästi öeldud mõtteis, kuid seni kuni suund õige, siis endale peaks ainult valgus paistma,
kuid eks muidugi, see oleneb kas vaenlane on inimeste seas ja teeb ajutiselt ja ei saa aru, kuigi ei tahaks, või tegu vaenlasega, kes vahest head võib teeselda
9 February 2017 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on Harri Kingo's post.
muidugi ei tohi sassi ajada vaenlast ja neid kes sul meelejärgi ajutiselt pole
9 February 2017 02:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
postkasti sees ta ei uuendanud samal ajal teisest aknast saadetud sonumeid uues chatkastis, kuigi see pole margastav mure
kuid drafti toi yle, :)
/
peaks eraldi chati ja kirja mode olema inimestel
kuid drafti toi yle, :)
/
peaks eraldi chati ja kirja mode olema inimestel
9 February 2017 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
see postkasti vaade on ikkagi ka hea>
http://www.rate.ee/mail.php?m=1 st see stiil, et lahtiselt 1 inimene koraga.
Postkastis see on hea, et ta kirjutades drafti alles hoiab
http://www.rate.ee/mail.php?m=1 st see stiil, et lahtiselt 1 inimene koraga.
Postkastis see on hea, et ta kirjutades drafti alles hoiab
http://www.rate.ee/mail.php?m=1
9 February 2017 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Loodushoiuministeerium's photo.
Huvitav
9 February 2017 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See on juba varsti kolm kiitust see aasta
umbe 30 laituse all et miks ma ei aksepteeri pidevat teiste mula ebarealistlikus mullis olevate olmeprobleemide osas mille lahenduseks isegi ei olda nous miskit motlema ega kuulamagi
umbe 30 laituse all et miks ma ei aksepteeri pidevat teiste mula ebarealistlikus mullis olevate olmeprobleemide osas mille lahenduseks isegi ei olda nous miskit motlema ega kuulamagi
9 February 2017 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
konservatiivselt vanemalt proualt ka veel.
9 February 2017 00:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
another interesting corner to keep on mind
https://www.blockchain-event.de/?utm_medium=portal&mac=IDGA_Events_Title_Listing
https://www.blockchain-event.de/?utm_medium=portal&mac=IDGA_Events_Title_Listing
https://www.blockchain-event.de/?utm_medium=portal&mac=IDGA_Events_Title_Listing
8 February 2017 23:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in my country EU does not allow to separate Russians or native Estonians in Estonia government crime statistic, as the % was nearly 70% so that made look Russian bad,
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solution is enforced government mindset understanding education programs, that will ongoing efforts will take on youth mind sets in any place and time and will be explained on spot, how is and how is not normal to think or assume.
This will lead to dramatic decline of crime network powers after initial activation. .
But again, these show offs have to be made in youth eyes serious way with on going map, on various levels of understandings highlighted, combined with public perception tuning about reasons and outcomes
/--
In the end the education is lowering retardation that make people behave so that them have to be shoot at,
As of now current understanding for many is on video game level, Really strongly, we got to worry about liberal mindset that enforces not intellectual freedoms but anti authority
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solution is enforced government mindset understanding education programs, that will ongoing efforts will take on youth mind sets in any place and time and will be explained on spot, how is and how is not normal to think or assume.
This will lead to dramatic decline of crime network powers after initial activation. .
But again, these show offs have to be made in youth eyes serious way with on going map, on various levels of understandings highlighted, combined with public perception tuning about reasons and outcomes
/--
In the end the education is lowering retardation that make people behave so that them have to be shoot at,
As of now current understanding for many is on video game level, Really strongly, we got to worry about liberal mindset that enforces not intellectual freedoms but anti authority
8 February 2017 23:10
Margus Meigo commented on Paul Francis Corry's post.
well, selective accusation
8 February 2017 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Good times to try to initiate again, my network ideals.
@With an estimated $38.5 billion for the Department of Defense to accomplish their modernization goals in 2017 the DoD will need to look at taking the requirements produced over the last several years, and evaluate how to operationalize or further develop commercial solutions that will help provide the tactical advantage.@
@With an estimated $38.5 billion for the Department of Defense to accomplish their modernization goals in 2017 the DoD will need to look at taking the requirements produced over the last several years, and evaluate how to operationalize or further develop commercial solutions that will help provide the tactical advantage.@
8 February 2017 22:45
Margus Meigo replied to Paul Francis Corry's comment.
how to become a husband
8 February 2017 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
80% are professionals and you stuck in the end with marketing.. are you serious..
yea, 99 dollars, wee, we develop new level of defense in world history and worry about saving 1 dollar on event, how they keep their job in there, between serious people ?
yea, 99 dollars, wee, we develop new level of defense in world history and worry about saving 1 dollar on event, how they keep their job in there, between serious people ?
8 February 2017 22:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
not know
6 February 2017 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
in us also
6 February 2017 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
enne olemasolu
6 February 2017 02:42
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Aaslo's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kender veel siin jahvatab, selleeest peab veel seisma et temasuguseks keegi ei hakkaks, kenderi6 February 2017 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
6 February 2017 00:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
inimsuhetest
5 February 2017 23:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
5 February 2017 23:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Õiglus, st
5 February 2017 22:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kkuigi, see postitus oli rohkem kunstiline, kuid alguse sai ikkagi tippajal suunaga kuidas õigus õigesti kirja panna
5 February 2017 22:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nii on õige!
5 February 2017 22:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
väikselt, suurelt ja keskmiselt, kõlab liiga lihtsalt, kuid olukorda vaadataes tuleb ikka sellega lõpuks nõustuda mis on õigem õiges olukorras
5 February 2017 22:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
me küll arvame, et suurelt saadi aru, kuid alles siis saadakse, kui suurelt elus hoida halba vell mõnda aega kuni kõik nõustunud oma ebaõiglase käitumise üle on, sellises olukorras kus olukorrad on sellised nagu nad siis on
5 February 2017 22:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
enne kui nii suurelt aru saaadakse, et mis oli, see kunagi alles hiljem arusaamisesse jõuab millest väjasünnitud siis ollakse
5 February 2017 22:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kaob enne arusaamist
5 February 2017 22:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
meestele on mõtlemine arusaamine naisele on see mehemaailmast arusaamine
5 February 2017 21:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Feminiine ka veel lõppudelõpuks, üllatamata
Üks ainuke intellektuaalne omadus mida meestel rohkem on on ka feminiiine
"mid-14c., logike, "branch of philosophy that treats of forms of thinking, science of distinction of true from false reasoning," from Old French logique (13c.), from Latin (ars) logica "logic," from Greek (he) logike (techne) "(the) reasoning (art)," from fem. of logikos "pertaining to speaking or reasoning" (also "of or pertaining to speech"), from logos "reason, idea, word" (see logos). Formerly also logick. Sometimes formerly plural, as in ethics, but this is not usual. "
Üks ainuke intellektuaalne omadus mida meestel rohkem on on ka feminiiine
"mid-14c., logike, "branch of philosophy that treats of forms of thinking, science of distinction of true from false reasoning," from Old French logique (13c.), from Latin (ars) logica "logic," from Greek (he) logike (techne) "(the) reasoning (art)," from fem. of logikos "pertaining to speaking or reasoning" (also "of or pertaining to speech"), from logos "reason, idea, word" (see logos). Formerly also logick. Sometimes formerly plural, as in ethics, but this is not usual. "
5 February 2017 21:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=logic
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=logic
5 February 2017 21:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mida iganes see loogiline tähendab, enamasti seda osa meeltest, mida naised läbi meeste siia ilma juurde sünnitasid
5 February 2017 21:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
PS: pildi mõte, minul endal jõuab loomulikult ka selleni,et kogu portaali A.I peab olema emotsionaalselt ja loogiliselt intelligentsem
5 February 2017 21:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja ega mul õnne ka VEEL ei ole, seega kuni sinnamaale võib igast hüplevat arengumuutust oodata
5 February 2017 21:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
PS Andrei, lisasin ühe naise ka suvaliselt kuid mitte suvalise siia, sest alati hea õnne jaoks peab olema Naine
5 February 2017 21:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
tagurpidi olulisused, kui mis wastus on, esimene olulisem vales olulisuses olev info
5 February 2017 04:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei ühtki kuuli vaenlase kahurile
5 February 2017 04:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
...selle katuse all eriti .... seda juttu rääkida (Vooglaid )
Ja jätkab "ja kui Hinges ei ole arusaamist, et sellise asja nagu Öko kogukond loomine nõuab...
Ja jätkab "ja kui Hinges ei ole arusaamist, et sellise asja nagu Öko kogukond loomine nõuab...
5 February 2017 03:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
pealiskaudsel tegemisel pole tulemusi mittemingisuguseid
5 February 2017 03:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
niii hea, et nii elementaarne alus on fragmendina kirja pandud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiMXFCLk-Ts
mis mõttes fragmendiga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiMXFCLk-Ts
mis mõttes fragmendiga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiMXFCLk-Ts
5 February 2017 03:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
poolepealtki
5 February 2017 03:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ps, see asi veel, et kui te seda videot lopuni ei kuula ja olete suht kindlasti, suure tõenäosusega alaarenguga
5 February 2017 03:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sest, inimesed saavad küll diplomi aga jäävad ilma hariduseta
5 February 2017 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
koolisysteem likvideerub
5 February 2017 02:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
5 February 2017 01:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
literalli, well, technically
5 February 2017 01:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but instead doing it ordinary capitalist looking way it will be humble helping way, with pre protected border that would be what is main thing, first,
adding product to date with full pre configured settings can be as easy as smile
adding product to date with full pre configured settings can be as easy as smile
5 February 2017 01:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// product sales on global dating market
5 February 2017 01:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
intelligent mating and rating
5 February 2017 01:23
Margus Meigo replied to Margit Solo's comment.
Nu ju eks ma siis ole, kui núúd móelda
3 February 2017 21:53
Margus Meigo replied to Margit Solo's comment.
Oi rs
3 February 2017 21:52
Margus Meigo replied to Isa Linda's comment.
True
3 February 2017 21:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But no , the issue still is that i love brokenly and calmly my first. So even if not issue how we all get to know what is correcter to do between us, u women can know from another. W about something shhe can be and her can be sure that is good to all good, to allow. ....just got to safe place now some time ago, today to karuuse veski,
3 February 2017 06:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Specially on belief
3 February 2017 06:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So always direct befere third party interpeetation
3 February 2017 06:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But should we, the smoodly virginly and nerdly in warm trusteness , is this species few pointer words, but how would it. Be understandable to more then...
3 February 2017 06:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Friend request, ega ma Su Nime ei uurinutki. Paljude, enamuste alguses, kuid mis peaks see oluline olema nende puhul kes pole huvi tundnud ega ei tunne ka,
3 February 2017 06:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
:p
3 February 2017 06:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Not again!
3 February 2017 06:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
( gret biz ideas related to yahoo also, like redefining yahoo and in the way back to roots, but whatever is twitter like service will it be to work with, in the end make fb great agaig, as was america (anoter ha ha) as they will be, ...but again?
3 February 2017 06:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Yahoo, not jet but yes. But you, as i told smoking you used really correctly, but woods plants are more like. Luke, you like this Monica type of woman, take contact if you see she reply here openly
3 February 2017 05:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The ones who made fake news and who left place dirty are commars, who gov should have grow up, or friends if they love
3 February 2017 05:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But. news about genocide. Is real
3 February 2017 05:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Uncleaners
3 February 2017 05:25
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kui sa vaid tead kui veendunult mulle nii paljud otsa on vaadanud viimasel ajal, kes on rohkem kui veendunud et võrdsus on see millesse nad ususvad. Ja mitte ainut noored
2 February 2017 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Ravenna's post.
good one!
2 February 2017 13:10
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Ravenna's post.
jup
2 February 2017 13:09
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Ravenna's post.
how they can make news and then loose 2 main videos of video, not making backup source, .. this kind of careless newscast just makes me distressed
2 February 2017 13:06
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Ravenna's post.
omg :p
2 February 2017 13:01
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Ravenna's post.
is like the starpucks logo right..
2 February 2017 12:59
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
but in more reality is like that:
Mostly from the times we was kidnapped in Africa and had to use credit-card to come out to escape with alternative airlines
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actually will be 500 more minus, just because some mistake show's like this
But yea, amazing how little numbers can cause how much stop of progress in various stages of life,
in some other times this kind of things would one not even mention, notice.. in some other times it is matter of to stay alive and how.
Mostly from the times we was kidnapped in Africa and had to use credit-card to come out to escape with alternative airlines
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actually will be 500 more minus, just because some mistake show's like this
But yea, amazing how little numbers can cause how much stop of progress in various stages of life,
in some other times this kind of things would one not even mention, notice.. in some other times it is matter of to stay alive and how.
2 February 2017 12:44
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
2 February 2017 12:40
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
i have to get someway over of this issue also with what and how i are allowed to make income
2 February 2017 12:36
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
but then, then would like to find California girl, or better jet, Estonian women, ...well basically any women that can put me to use, activate my potential that i just do not want to activate without her.
besides... CF, more near to silicon valley also, might be good idea actually.. newer know with who has possibility to meet,
besides to be hosted in your castle will be great
besides... CF, more near to silicon valley also, might be good idea actually.. newer know with who has possibility to meet,
besides to be hosted in your castle will be great
2 February 2017 12:26
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
i just might make it
2 February 2017 12:19
Margus Meigo commented on Eduard Mordukhovitch's post.
Related to : )
https://artinvestment.ru/en/invest/interviews/20110721_burmistrov.html
https://artinvestment.ru/en/invest/interviews/20110721_burmistrov.html
https://artinvestment.ru/en/invest/interviews/20110721_burmistrov.html
2 February 2017 11:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but more easy then impossible
2 February 2017 11:52
Margus Meigo commented on Eduard Mordukhovitch's post.
Not jet so bad globally but we working on it as humans unless we teach for what to use...
but yea, not easiest thing to regulate
but yea, not easiest thing to regulate
2 February 2017 11:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as alternative media this places are usually communistic, is normal for them to do these kind of things against natives and them self as supporters,
reasons to explain why it works like this (communist pretend to be activists and make activist organizations and them make them self look bad but for sure everyone who uses them by injecting for sure this kind of fake news in what you can 100% see is not true from image, but getting confused over the situation what really happened on spot )
reasons to explain why it works like this (communist pretend to be activists and make activist organizations and them make them self look bad but for sure everyone who uses them by injecting for sure this kind of fake news in what you can 100% see is not true from image, but getting confused over the situation what really happened on spot )
2 February 2017 11:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
2 February 2017 11:43
Margus Meigo commented on Carla A Delgado's post.
2 February 2017 11:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://nativenewsonline.net/currents/keeping-honest-photographs-misidentified-police-not-burn-standing-rock-tepees/
http://nativenewsonline.net/currents/keeping-honest-photographs-misidentified-police-not-burn-standing-rock-tepees/
2 February 2017 11:38
Margus Meigo commented on Carla A Delgado's post.
.
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Police-Raid-Standing-Rock-Last-Child-Camp-Arrest-76-20170201-0067.html
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Police-Raid-Standing-Rock-Last-Child-Camp-Arrest-76-20170201-0067.html
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Police-Raid-Standing-Rock-Last-Child-Camp-Arrest-76-20170201-0067.html
2 February 2017 11:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
aaa selge.. need meelega siis selle bensiini poolsed tegid võlts uudiseid, et keegi tähelepanu neile ei pööraks nende hädas:
http://nativenewsonline.net/currents/keeping-honest-photographs-misidentified-police-not-burn-standing-rock-tepees/
http://nativenewsonline.net/currents/keeping-honest-photographs-misidentified-police-not-burn-standing-rock-tepees/
http://nativenewsonline.net/currents/keeping-honest-photographs-misidentified-police-not-burn-standing-rock-tepees/
2 February 2017 11:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
we can really explain why understanding other kind helps better and how current equality law in the end serves other side to good as newer allows women to shine in so many ways as she would be able in proper love supporting planet world
2 February 2017 03:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
..just trying to get word correct order, takes time jet
can not do other works that wait the time but can do that at least
can not do other works that wait the time but can do that at least
2 February 2017 03:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Even the ones who are known, to spend a big Law and court deals, on women, but as long there is public debate out, allowed, that eQuallity on women is allowed, even among them self, should be taken as dangerously freaky, is absolutely crazy as starting point, but still listen every single ones idea, how they in real god eye imagine to understand what they try to believe if they say, in greatness man is comparable with women.
2 February 2017 03:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eg women (plants, animals maybe)
2 February 2017 03:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this man, the ones who say women and man is equal or support any system, philosophy holder, that helps to show sexual equality (equality between man and women belief,agenda) as something good to a women, is fake respect.
clearly, specially if they are Greek-Roman mind a like, who's thinking has been influenced or based strongest on antiwoman philosophers as Aristoteles (if it is true what has been said about him)
then using anti women tools to clearly keep hypnosis on as respect would be in any kind of acceptable level in current world women situations.
At least some man and women got respect but also, allowed it not to have to them also, globally, in open places that as aria, (who)like to think of them self as someone who should not be quarantined for imminent mind and soul cleaning, helping.
So basically, any country that supports equality can not be in their mind safelly say that they are pro women society. Any society that is man_woman_equal mindset is 100% against women unless they pretend to bend under equality to just survive the potential dangers of showing yourself as someone who know, equality to be evil and try to find way's to save yong souls before they are stuck on (hit by it) it.
Usually man protect eQuality are afraid (rarely not understanding) the idea of surrendering to a women and god.
In real life should be .. if someone disagrees with a absolute normal, then as long will be work with this person as he get over of this insane look of life.
In most open way's but so surely can be worked only in ideas (by organisms) that have self safe correcting base meaning are gentle or soft by nature and same time in touch with life and death the most nearest out of compared ones. ONly by them or on them can be used absolute ideas.
clearly, specially if they are Greek-Roman mind a like, who's thinking has been influenced or based strongest on antiwoman philosophers as Aristoteles (if it is true what has been said about him)
then using anti women tools to clearly keep hypnosis on as respect would be in any kind of acceptable level in current world women situations.
At least some man and women got respect but also, allowed it not to have to them also, globally, in open places that as aria, (who)like to think of them self as someone who should not be quarantined for imminent mind and soul cleaning, helping.
So basically, any country that supports equality can not be in their mind safelly say that they are pro women society. Any society that is man_woman_equal mindset is 100% against women unless they pretend to bend under equality to just survive the potential dangers of showing yourself as someone who know, equality to be evil and try to find way's to save yong souls before they are stuck on (hit by it) it.
Usually man protect eQuality are afraid (rarely not understanding) the idea of surrendering to a women and god.
In real life should be .. if someone disagrees with a absolute normal, then as long will be work with this person as he get over of this insane look of life.
In most open way's but so surely can be worked only in ideas (by organisms) that have self safe correcting base meaning are gentle or soft by nature and same time in touch with life and death the most nearest out of compared ones. ONly by them or on them can be used absolute ideas.
2 February 2017 03:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
for a humans, generally
(these ones who support sex equality do not have generally respect for humans )
(these ones who support sex equality do not have generally respect for humans )
2 February 2017 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Basically, they use hardware level word "(brain)disturbance"
then software level "false memory "
and science level word "pseudoscientific"
when talking about things that you are forced not to know
/// or not allowed to investigate to know if you want to know, it is strongly discouraged by these who place your idea about having this idea in to position that can worry their idea, or render it gone
then software level "false memory "
and science level word "pseudoscientific"
when talking about things that you are forced not to know
/// or not allowed to investigate to know if you want to know, it is strongly discouraged by these who place your idea about having this idea in to position that can worry their idea, or render it gone
2 February 2017 00:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
False memory...From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Redirected from Mandela Effect)
"...False memory is the psychological phenomenon in which a person recalls a memory that did not actually occur. False memory is often considered in legal cases regarding"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory
(Redirected from Mandela Effect)
"...False memory is the psychological phenomenon in which a person recalls a memory that did not actually occur. False memory is often considered in legal cases regarding"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory
2 February 2017 00:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Mandela_effect
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Mandela_effect
2 February 2017 00:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but rarely explaining why... about.. as if you would you will be used against this same thing again
2 February 2017 00:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and even using normal data as
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confabulation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confabulation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confabulation
2 February 2017 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to Esben Moller's comment.
we also get topics here like why there is allowed world (ruling) things with out respect etc
2 February 2017 00:34
Margus Meigo replied to Esben Moller's comment.
so when it is big i will get away from real life where i am bdw RARELY, but right now i am, near to some real lifers, so will try to commute with them first, IRL
2 February 2017 00:33
Margus Meigo replied to Esben Moller's comment.
i will read rest later, when my mind can take focus on it, big topics
2 February 2017 00:32
Margus Meigo replied to Esben Moller's comment.
you know we are sure that to believe is better then not, for sure : )
that you know and want to know good or many other things there is what you can know for sure
but hard to prove you not belive
that you know and want to know good or many other things there is what you can know for sure
but hard to prove you not belive
2 February 2017 00:32
Margus Meigo replied to Esben Moller's comment.
what You mean, believer can not be sure?
2 February 2017 00:30
Margus Meigo commented on Mary Lane's post.
why to think so highly of him?
1 February 2017 22:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and as always, even the site is interesting and nice looking at first, it is cler, them also, kind of missing the main point about white people world matriarchial norm that has been from beginning of times, on OUR kind
Jews also, are matriarchial, ...but more excotic to leave this acient, bushman feeling on to the idea even
not that this feeling can t be nice, can for sure, but just corner from where it is looked from... this have to be questioned, is it nice?
Or do they looke not nice as something "naturally nice".. you know... looking poor people like "oo this is soooo neat how you live,... you really good at it... living with out nothing.. keep it up mate" types..
Who not even dare to ask, or investigate what it is what they can do, to help you theoretically or who in their mind you should help, *if you interested you ask,
Jews also, are matriarchial, ...but more excotic to leave this acient, bushman feeling on to the idea even
not that this feeling can t be nice, can for sure, but just corner from where it is looked from... this have to be questioned, is it nice?
Or do they looke not nice as something "naturally nice".. you know... looking poor people like "oo this is soooo neat how you live,... you really good at it... living with out nothing.. keep it up mate" types..
Who not even dare to ask, or investigate what it is what they can do, to help you theoretically or who in their mind you should help, *if you interested you ask,
1 February 2017 18:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(yes it is provocatioons post, but based on true thinking of groupsfrom roman, criminal or kind of wiking mind set)
1 February 2017 18:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or how would You like to comment it?
1 February 2017 18:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(matriarchy and feminism not really the same and it is reversed actually but anyway)
and while at this, read the comments on this: https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2012/07/22/matriarchy-feminist-rule-destroys-every-society-that-implements-it/
and while at this, read the comments on this: https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2012/07/22/matriarchy-feminist-rule-destroys-every-society-that-implements-it/
1 February 2017 18:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Commrades y0, take it as it might be
1 February 2017 00:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
antinature, antifemale, antirelion, antishamanistic and pro greek-roman education, are the Communists, yes
1 February 2017 00:08
Margus Meigo commented on Bernardo Terenzi's post.
If they hearing but do they understand what they hearing and what is the plan for hearing
31 January 2017 22:24
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
i mean normal as this is what can easily happen with people who like to save the world on my situations
...but for sure there is most likely better method s
...but for sure there is most likely better method s
31 January 2017 17:10
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
no this is actually just normal,..have not have had proper living for over 5 years so...
terrible is that with 5+ years i have not found single humans with who to take on the world and find another human who would understand what we want and can to do for world and that because of un measurable finances can cause so much trouble when doing what we do : )
terrible is that with 5+ years i have not found single humans with who to take on the world and find another human who would understand what we want and can to do for world and that because of un measurable finances can cause so much trouble when doing what we do : )
31 January 2017 17:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
update 2: just discovered that they took my this month saving and future month whole final paycheck.
just starts getting more and more ... well . how ever these usual situations are called.
Newer bothered to report about it here, but hey, once can.
just starts getting more and more ... well . how ever these usual situations are called.
Newer bothered to report about it here, but hey, once can.
31 January 2017 15:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(todays job is finished!)
31 January 2017 05:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so so , will reshape the wording a bit after, when , now the city !
31 January 2017 05:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as my heart can know how only can become full good, so when you even know, that reallity is pain still maybe when man and women meet, then i try to make my fault as good to help you to build all the doors and personallaty to keep strong and protected from me
31 January 2017 04:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
to protect your heart, most of all, as it is always intended,
31 January 2017 04:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"this offer might be temporally might be long time, up for the few ones or first one who can correct way how should be. Seems like fault, weakness in me, but to few have seem to come near the heart, so gotta add some helping pointers, to us"
31 January 2017 04:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
also possibily visually, the 2 that give 2 togheder, is reminder of third part that gives togheder four
31 January 2017 03:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
mobil does not allow me to edit note, but next part should come to : https://marguswaffa.wordpress.com/neljanekolmik/
https://marguswaffa.wordpress.com/neljanekolmik/
31 January 2017 03:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but how ever we start it will be taking in to account of my personallty manifest, in this blog note:
31 January 2017 02:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
usun, et paremat investeeringut ei saa olla, kui midagi mis sünnib armastusest, koostööst, usust, nõustumisest hea, millegi suunas mis on iseenesest mõista kõigile lõppkokkuvõttes parem'
31 January 2017 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
well one other idea i have haw to get answer to all the ideas and preserve good ideas and how to organize future so all ideas what is needed will get looked in to in order of saftey
31 January 2017 02:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I only got a idea and few ideas how to implement idea and dare to do it, as a main only things i got, if someone asks, what He got.
31 January 2017 02:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
läbi naise, st Naise heakskiidul suures plaanis, heakiidu suunas paljunev või hea kiidu usk tehingu olulisusesse NaisTe enda maailma paranduseks.
31 January 2017 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mul tunne, et rahavoog peab ainult toimima läbi Naise, et see heaks jääks, kuid eelkõige usun, et iga idee algus, saab elu siis kui selle seemne alguse võimaldab Naissoo heakskiit
31 January 2017 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but even now, i must remember to not make anti advertisement or even talk about pentagram to much to not accomplish this what pentagram wants, (wants you to also see the pentagram all the time, starting from most internet or technology where it has places to remind you them self or to be in your eye eventually).
But yea, i get ower of that issue now
But yea, i get ower of that issue now
31 January 2017 01:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
even when whatever is in fasion, i will not have whatever
// but pentagram is like that on Your passing Culture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr1znArj0cQ
// but pentagram is like that on Your passing Culture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr1znArj0cQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr1znArj0cQ
31 January 2017 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
If You help my country, i will help You, in whatever
31 January 2017 01:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
31 January 2017 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
well, this editings started to work really strange, loosing what was edited, then showing up what was lost before and loosing this what was owerwriten. Suck to record copirights like that
31 January 2017 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on Rings Movie's video.
the real man was like what is that
30 January 2017 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on Thaju Thomas's post.
keep in mind the mushroom networks..
30 January 2017 23:00
Margus Meigo commented on Maria Artazu Maurin's post.
Smart
30 January 2017 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on David Pearce's post.
Group: The Hedonistic Imperative
when you get some traveling in there with shamanic tools then you talk what is worth30 January 2017 22:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but editing out is not an option
30 January 2017 22:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
argh, was no point to connect these people on this post right now.. oh well, this new ui in mobile view
30 January 2017 22:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et nagu on ikka ringi sõitmine, niigi ajal kus muud olulist peaks tegema :D
kuid vähemalt on hea sõit olnud
kuid vähemalt on hea sõit olnud
30 January 2017 22:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vabaka ligidal ööbimas, kuid homme plaanin karuse poole hommikul, pidin viljanist tagasi minema Tallinna, sest pangakoodid mis sain nende aiukesest toimivast kontorist vaja enne homset korda ajada ja karusesse tagasi, sest see milleks viljandi läksin, et läptop korda saada jäi sinna lihulakanti.
30 January 2017 22:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
5229041
30 January 2017 22:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
hilisemaks uurimiseks, mingi see kurja rynnak sääl ja siis mingi hea muud kyljed sääl vist
30 January 2017 22:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehk siis seda vist isegi juba olnud maailmas, et see mis oli normaalne ja mis on tegelikult hea või neutraalne, selle asja seismise või toetamise, isegi arusaamise eest, juba murettekitav olukord saab enda või lähedastele tekkida isegi kui teie kogu pundil pole kunagi ühti päris kurja plaani olnud isegi mõttes mitte
30 January 2017 22:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but brodcast where people can interact
30 January 2017 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
many benefitial reasons, if right amount show MINDSETS is selected,
would even benafit first years, >If not the English translation but asia and excotic places first and Then let Western society to put a outlook on it.
would even benafit first years, >If not the English translation but asia and excotic places first and Then let Western society to put a outlook on it.
30 January 2017 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
original message was : "i newer write ....personal sarrow or givingup" in my notes to directly nowhere"
Meaning this can be even as for protection for a human to say they wouldnewer do anything
Meaning this can be even as for protection for a human to say they wouldnewer do anything
30 January 2017 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kas nii lihtsatesse sarjadesse saab kõrgema astme teadvus sõnumeid edasi saata, näitamaks mida võimaldati ja avastati inimeste suhtes, nad koguvad seda infot... selleks et siis kõike
eid panna vastu, neid isikuid selle isikuga kellele kõige mõjuvamalt m
eid panna vastu, neid isikuid selle isikuga kellele kõige mõjuvamalt m
30 January 2017 04:44
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
just sometimes people do not know, what they let go, or how
30 January 2017 04:23
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
not at all talking about you, this was if this is what i think it is pretty good
30 January 2017 04:22
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
woned who got time to do moody job with me my doing also something that i think will suceed and will be great or part great,
but yea, every moment and connection can be the greatest, but how come we demand so little realization
but yea, every moment and connection can be the greatest, but how come we demand so little realization
30 January 2017 04:22
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
i am middle of the mood of chaning all the TV channel moods
30 January 2017 04:20
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
what does your screen picture, profile represent ?
30 January 2017 04:20
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
How heäs doing?
30 January 2017 04:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in That size, about what more alll is made in epic invasion
30 January 2017 04:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but suprisingly known, to be secret
30 January 2017 04:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
easy to test what plants or items, tech and methods for drunkering or extacy are from god
Most are probabaly not, the common ones
Most are probabaly not, the common ones
30 January 2017 04:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but related to any items hat can raise feelings and thinkings, any time it go semy right and good you will help anonymosly good forces, maybe later your signatur will be reconiced but then better hope that by this time the forces to be are good
30 January 2017 04:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
was in mind more nice the last sentence
30 January 2017 04:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in some way what i try to to is make platform and methods to save emotions,
in case we need to
in case we need to
30 January 2017 04:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
oi üks koht tuli meelde
30 January 2017 04:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
tallinnas võib heades kohtades päris huvitavaid inimesi pakkuda, võib ka täitsa maa rahava sisegäng olla
30 January 2017 04:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
there is forces that wait disater to strike, bigger the better, then for them is working time and their millions of runners will do what will, then
"tho what will" in crowley way
"tho what will" in crowley way
30 January 2017 03:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
related to movie,
when these kind of things come on large scalem and it is much more likelly happen then all other femonewm what is investigated but will not affect us in millions of years, but what we talk, protcentage is all the time big, for things to happen, so the ones who wait natural disater time to make advansement, then they do it
when these kind of things come on large scalem and it is much more likelly happen then all other femonewm what is investigated but will not affect us in millions of years, but what we talk, protcentage is all the time big, for things to happen, so the ones who wait natural disater time to make advansement, then they do it
30 January 2017 03:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eri aegades inimesi kes tulevad eri saamustele, saadetakse eemale õigest asjast vale ravikätte, sest see asutus mis peaks meele seisundi tervist valvama on ideoloogiliselt seest või väljast muudetud sedasi, et nõuded arusaamaks on uued
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oot oot ma mõelda proovin et mis see sõna "saamuste" osas mõtlesin..
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oot oot ma mõelda proovin et mis see sõna "saamuste" osas mõtlesin..
30 January 2017 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid mones muus maailmas areteeriti
30 January 2017 02:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Jadada palun seda. ma ise ei saa praegu
30 January 2017 01:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but then again, we should go for what we see to also be, what is needed to man up in all not expected reallaties
30 January 2017 01:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
30 January 2017 01:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aaah will doubling the thing but by developing up to leader position in many new arias of life, and when bid is getting to ower few billion, then more serious offers can be made
30 January 2017 01:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(tegelikult on see aru saam palju aatelisem, vist,kuid las ma vaatan üle)
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[Nu kõikide nende ajusammude, ajuplaanide ülestähendusi märkimises, peab ju olema mingi kasulikuse jätkuvus]
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Kuid jah, mingi uus meedia tahab peale sõita mille sisu on suht ebahea. Kuid neil head selles ka vist ikka.
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[Nu kõikide nende ajusammude, ajuplaanide ülestähendusi märkimises, peab ju olema mingi kasulikuse jätkuvus]
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Kuid jah, mingi uus meedia tahab peale sõita mille sisu on suht ebahea. Kuid neil head selles ka vist ikka.
...
30 January 2017 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et reaalselt ka need jõud kes arvasid kasutada kohtasi millegagi tegemiseks kus oli mets, siis mida sa teed,
mets või mingi ala äkk ülevõtuks lubatud , juurutatud filmidega asi, eet on olemas nagu asutused kas saavad sulle yelda, et sa mingi aeg ei saa kuskile kohta minna lampi,
mets või mingi ala äkk ülevõtuks lubatud , juurutatud filmidega asi, eet on olemas nagu asutused kas saavad sulle yelda, et sa mingi aeg ei saa kuskile kohta minna lampi,
30 January 2017 01:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
töötab, siis kuidas sa tead, kas facebook sinu riigis inimõiguste eest võitleb või võidelda soovib enam kui sa lubad nii olulistel inimestel ennast oma organisatsioonidel oma maalt välja kihutada hullutatud noortega, iga asja vastu mingi grup on treenitud olema. kellegi ikka leiab.. kellegile kellegi kaela saata suure mis iganes muu eendi ajal.. loodetakse metreoriite lausa vb asjadest mis kuskil valesti ohku lastud, voisin isegi ise arvata et vüimalik kuid olememata sellest one see asi nii liiga suur, et eepilisesse ei tasu seda tikkida, kuid muidu tikkimine on tore asi mida teha, hea, oluline (päris selle asja osas... kuid see ainult siis peab paika, kui see päriselt oa sorti mammide monu on teadmistega midagi erilist ise sokki sisse kududa, peab kysima, neilt telenoidadelt, mis arvavad, kas on võinalik, no volusokid... teh
// vo ei tea mida viimase neljalausega ütlesin, kuid point oli selles, et
mõel)
Kuid hullem jah, ytleme, et peale seda kui puudega asustatud maale alustuseks puude lhtsalt välja võtmiseks kiirelt tulega selleks et neid neile segavaid tegevusi ei hakataks esitama
sedailma pahameeletakylma närviga alustuseks lastakse ja need välja võtaks kui vaja kes takistada prooviks neid yhele või teisele poole uut kontroll piiri jäädvustades, mis iganes jõud vahele tormaisd, ja samas iga jõu oma inimesi oli kasutatud eri modeleeringutes
// vo ei tea mida viimase neljalausega ütlesin, kuid point oli selles, et
mõel)
Kuid hullem jah, ytleme, et peale seda kui puudega asustatud maale alustuseks puude lhtsalt välja võtmiseks kiirelt tulega selleks et neid neile segavaid tegevusi ei hakataks esitama
sedailma pahameeletakylma närviga alustuseks lastakse ja need välja võtaks kui vaja kes takistada prooviks neid yhele või teisele poole uut kontroll piiri jäädvustades, mis iganes jõud vahele tormaisd, ja samas iga jõu oma inimesi oli kasutatud eri modeleeringutes
30 January 2017 01:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
selleks peaks muidugi ühendust võtma, enamus asjade osas kuidas vja ma saan aidata juhendada kuidas aitaks
30 January 2017 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but strangly healthy fighting scenes https://youtu.be/wCyHhmud7JY?t=50m
https://youtu.be/wCyHhmud7JY?t=50m
29 January 2017 22:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but this is just a temporally level that should not stay but if some aria does, then knowingly keep that in mind that it is just a border moment, not whole reallity
29 January 2017 22:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
[movie and fight scene is not worth much just showing some side projects of gov to expand mind simply]
yes in remeber, the women only step against the women maybe becouse one was made insane a bit
" She try to take ower the world "
" so ? "
//up to that point it was good
But truth is how would really, how should really anything near on this level She chooce, someone who can bring loved ones back and who can offer more protection or *
But truth is how would really, how should really anything near on this level She chooce, someone who can bring lov ed ones back and who can offer more protection or
...well, what kind of grazy women would do like that
https://youtu.be/yBkIBrwg27c?t=25s
yes in remeber, the women only step against the women maybe becouse one was made insane a bit
" She try to take ower the world "
" so ? "
//up to that point it was good
But truth is how would really, how should really anything near on this level She chooce, someone who can bring loved ones back and who can offer more protection or *
But truth is how would really, how should really anything near on this level She chooce, someone who can bring lov ed ones back and who can offer more protection or
...well, what kind of grazy women would do like that
https://youtu.be/yBkIBrwg27c?t=25s
29 January 2017 22:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
compared with soft kick stile, with femine punch from here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xTnfyqj7iY
// this director has done something really interesting, different and empahzised it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xTnfyqj7iY
// this director has done something really interesting, different and empahzised it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xTnfyqj7iY
29 January 2017 22:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More interesting stile is the fighting softnes different , totaly different fight scene, some magic, feminity put in to these kicks some way, just comapre this with the one what is on reply
Virst (also femine but from greeks tile, and yes, swords help to show that sharpness, but still https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62jjB1LPar0)
Virst (also femine but from greeks tile, and yes, swords help to show that sharpness, but still https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62jjB1LPar0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62jjB1LPar0
29 January 2017 22:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 January 2017 21:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 January 2017 21:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But She has good side, of the upper side womens who lost their sale from Nature ..
the side who had to be with upper elites, but when they not anymore what they gotta be what keeps them around Her then, ...in far cry out from this level of womenety, is rare honesty that anyone have dared to bring to up front main screen
in here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_1aF54DO60
// hey hey .. it is like another levelof Katy Perry mother rich freind consiousness level
the side who had to be with upper elites, but when they not anymore what they gotta be what keeps them around Her then, ...in far cry out from this level of womenety, is rare honesty that anyone have dared to bring to up front main screen
in here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_1aF54DO60
// hey hey .. it is like another levelof Katy Perry mother rich freind consiousness level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_1aF54DO60
29 January 2017 21:45
Margus Meigo commented on Jaan Pummelung's post.
see mure saab varsti lahendatud
29 January 2017 21:38
Margus Meigo commented on Jaan Pummelung's post.
1 st thing:
He worked out
He worked out
29 January 2017 21:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nothing erotics for wikings when we say goind down with a women
29 January 2017 21:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
when She say we,
she will tell you, you did not find all the lifes You dreamed, as some versions was made to go down with you ya wikings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bag1gUxuU0g
she will tell you, you did not find all the lifes You dreamed, as some versions was made to go down with you ya wikings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bag1gUxuU0g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bag1gUxuU0g
29 January 2017 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
võrdluseks, on sinust endast väljaspool olevad mured milles küll Su enda heaolu võib sõltuda kuid eekõige teiste heaolu sinu heaolust sõltub.
võrdluseks, on sinust endast väljaspool olevad mured millest küll su enda heaolu võib sõltuda kuid eekõige teiste heaolu sinu heaolust sõltub ja veel suurem hukkumine juhtub sellise kadumise järjel, teadmata lootuseni kes siis enam päästaks.
Kuid ega alla ei anna ühegi lõppeva tee puhul
no all was not born to die
võrdluseks, on sinust endast väljaspool olevad mured millest küll su enda heaolu võib sõltuda kuid eekõige teiste heaolu sinu heaolust sõltub ja veel suurem hukkumine juhtub sellise kadumise järjel, teadmata lootuseni kes siis enam päästaks.
Kuid ega alla ei anna ühegi lõppeva tee puhul
no all was not born to die
29 January 2017 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
butthings are much more possible in so many more ways, if you want to be true beliver, of basic women (for drawers, helps to get missing points if you connect the various reallaty points and connect what is between, imagine the many version secotors, and assume many smartnert levels in even most silliest things and TV serials even as high tech from many sides, but what is long term plan best for all of these.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxdwEOpGknk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxdwEOpGknk
29 January 2017 20:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and this for what is this all,
top of the fighter levels explained in forst 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxdwEOpGknk
top of the fighter levels explained in forst 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxdwEOpGknk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxdwEOpGknk
29 January 2017 20:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või mingi kaasaegse looma sarnane
29 January 2017 20:35
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
kas panid tähele kui rebaselik see lennuki nina on
29 January 2017 20:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
now we got to the song we looking at:
(but yes for dimension all that and more to let throught in paralel minds and before and after times, floating in to datas on seperate levels at same time as much is reasonable to feel many things and world at time, same time. peacefully )
(yes for peace we need to keep war up a bit at times)
(but yes for dimension all that and more to let throught in paralel minds and before and after times, floating in to datas on seperate levels at same time as much is reasonable to feel many things and world at time, same time. peacefully )
(yes for peace we need to keep war up a bit at times)
29 January 2017 20:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
man fetish filmsalso when someone hit a women and women beats back whatever but proper beating, sick enjoiment really to look it really, hitting back, that is normal, all even to ejoy this a bit if You want less sick, but to allow in to screen picture even when women is hit, how is that possible
Only these people who really are women beaters are allowed to stay sometime on screen for everyone to see and recotnize
Only these people who really are women beaters are allowed to stay sometime on screen for everyone to see and recotnize
29 January 2017 20:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga teiste muredest laseme ennast rõhuda küll, kui juba muretseme
29 January 2017 20:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 January 2017 20:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 January 2017 20:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
graphic was totally not intended,
probably someone did it before, but we are led to belive so
probably someone did it before, but we are led to belive so
29 January 2017 20:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 January 2017 20:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
less worthy, just becouse paycheck, there is earned respect.
and how they can even imagine, to replace nearly all service manand their students and school connectors, so no one who they would afraid to would not become on position in stady way, up to the point when they are grown around you , in to you again, and say hello
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[]visualization needed to make from this one, mooving is best
and how they can even imagine, to replace nearly all service manand their students and school connectors, so no one who they would afraid to would not become on position in stady way, up to the point when they are grown around you , in to you again, and say hello
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[]visualization needed to make from this one, mooving is best
29 January 2017 20:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and locals by the r most precious highest technology,
The Heart, feeling (emotions got othersalso) and, yes, well this is mostly by the end the Largest superpower,
whos power capabilities represent, most precioslly most well the images where J is hold by Ortodox chruch or someones where is light around the heart and people around wil turn in to good and well mannered to the end whit no softness if needed, even short amount around you will do it.
But president must know, these people around You are protecting You only when they repsect You ...
Or when they respect who else is on positions that matter to them, but if special officer agrees with rest of agency best and trusted, then we know there is no need to take bullet for less worthy
The Heart, feeling (emotions got othersalso) and, yes, well this is mostly by the end the Largest superpower,
whos power capabilities represent, most precioslly most well the images where J is hold by Ortodox chruch or someones where is light around the heart and people around wil turn in to good and well mannered to the end whit no softness if needed, even short amount around you will do it.
But president must know, these people around You are protecting You only when they repsect You ...
Or when they respect who else is on positions that matter to them, but if special officer agrees with rest of agency best and trusted, then we know there is no need to take bullet for less worthy
29 January 2017 20:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oo boy and then various types of magicians from electronical to mystical ones and many other types that can be on materia clasification look at firsdt.. but then when one realises hybrids, then body border with whatever material will be lost where to say how many kinds, then would be try to be looked by the mind or some other class
29 January 2017 20:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 January 2017 19:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 January 2017 19:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 January 2017 19:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
girl video related to original post i must add, to add to the dimension text that was told in the beginning of the post ?
You understand?
You understand?
29 January 2017 19:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 January 2017 19:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid jutu mõte ongi, et ei mingil vähemal moel kui kõveimates filmides, vaid ikka see mis Sulle selgitatud sellest mis on, on ju heal juhul ,väike kirme, vot sellise suuruse mitmekesised moondumised igas suunas on võimalikud su vastase osas, kui mõtled naisest, ja need kõik on kirmed millega ei saagi saada midagi valmistuda, ka siis saad ainult pea alles jätmiseks miinimum normaalsuse kui kõike arvesse võtad
29 January 2017 19:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
how to get lowergirls, in Roman empire eye,
but still consentrated heroine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAhZqLXDx54
( jah vb su silmis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BwzP1laWkQ video, but vb on keeratud teda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62jjB1LPar0 x
but still consentrated heroine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAhZqLXDx54
( jah vb su silmis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BwzP1laWkQ video, but vb on keeratud teda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62jjB1LPar0 x
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAhZqLXDx54
29 January 2017 19:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sellega saab kõrgema austuse päris oluliste aasia, a raabia müstikute seas ja endale ka suurt kindlust ja ühist joont
kuid kivijurakale sa enam tuld ka otsa pane..
kuid kivijurakale sa enam tuld ka otsa pane..
29 January 2017 19:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja kõige olulisem, et puidust oleks..
kui nüüd enam muidugi saab..
kui nüüd enam muidugi saab..
29 January 2017 19:08
Margus Meigo commented on Alexandre Pereira's photo.
bearded vs not bearded one
29 January 2017 18:55
Margus Meigo commented on Hrh Jade Aapril Sanchez's post.
And when people measure this in numbers it does make it kind of meaningless
and we know, yes is not
and we know, yes is not
29 January 2017 18:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kutsume väed kokku takistamiseks kui vaja
29 January 2017 18:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja lihtsalt ei müü
29 January 2017 18:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja raudtee, kas õhus või maa all,
Ja maad alt ei müü vaid RENDIME 50 aasta kaupa, korraliku summaga, see rada siin peab meile pidevalt sisse tooma ja aru saama, et kui me rendilepingu üles ütleme..
Ja maad alt ei müü vaid RENDIME 50 aasta kaupa, korraliku summaga, see rada siin peab meile pidevalt sisse tooma ja aru saama, et kui me rendilepingu üles ütleme..
29 January 2017 18:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid oluline on, et peab puidust olema
29 January 2017 18:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi nüüd suts hilja, nüüd arvatakse, et seda selle pärast tehakse, et nagunii tuleb ja palju räägitakse.. ja nüüd väga raske VEEL positsiooni saada, aga on võimalik
kui mõistus pähe võtta
Seda aru ei saada, mida NEED nurgakivid tähendavad kui nad maas juba kord on,..siis ..
Juhiseid on endiselt mu käes palju, lihtsalt mooduseid kuidas neid õigete silmadeni saada õige selgitusega, see veel vajab arendamist...
kui mõistus pähe võtta
Seda aru ei saada, mida NEED nurgakivid tähendavad kui nad maas juba kord on,..siis ..
Juhiseid on endiselt mu käes palju, lihtsalt mooduseid kuidas neid õigete silmadeni saada õige selgitusega, see veel vajab arendamist...
29 January 2017 18:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või sisetunne
29 January 2017 18:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
..sisi arvati, et nalja või lori jutt.. kuid nüüd kui alles hakatakse aru saama, et millised võimalused käest lasti sellega, kui ise Maaliselt otsustad ja kutsud.. siis saad valida keda kuidas ja needaitavad paika panna keda mitte.. nüüd aga .. jah kasvab see varsti üle pea ja siis siin lipsuga moslemid varsti kes kommunistlike ideaale täitma hakkavad või muud salgad.
Kui ise oleksime saanud valida, oleksime päris vanausulised ja erinevad püha tegelased valinud..
kuidjah, eks ka minu enda süü, et ma ammu kogutud meile lõpuni ei saatnud.. üksi jube raske ikka järge pidada asjadel mida Jumal teha soovitab
Kui ise oleksime saanud valida, oleksime päris vanausulised ja erinevad püha tegelased valinud..
kuidjah, eks ka minu enda süü, et ma ammu kogutud meile lõpuni ei saatnud.. üksi jube raske ikka järge pidada asjadel mida Jumal teha soovitab
29 January 2017 18:12
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Prits's comment.
nu jah, mu jaoks ikka naine on naise liigist ja mees mehe, olgugi, et hübriide, segusi ka on looduse sidumiseks või mine tea mis põhjusel
29 January 2017 17:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siis tõmbamegi nagu kärbsepaberiga neid valesi kärbseid ligi kah..
29 January 2017 17:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kui palju psüholoogia naiste ajus on manipuleeritud, et nad seda ebapraktilisust hindaks mis omakorda aitab mehi kontrollida süsteemil, et nad teeksid asju mis omakorda, naisele ega mehele endale ei meeldi lõppkokkuvõttes.. kuigi naised ise mehi ka neid asju tegemas hoiavad teisimoodi armastusega...
kuid eks siin veel asju, nagu kontsa kingad ja veendunult iga päev oma nägu värvidega kohendamine..
kuid eks siin veel asju, nagu kontsa kingad ja veendunult iga päev oma nägu värvidega kohendamine..
29 January 2017 17:27
Margus Meigo commented on Erika Kuningas's post.
muidugi lapsi ei ole hea selle ülikonna asjaga harjutada, ega see päris mõistlik asi pole mida kanda suures plaanis, kui nüüd analüüsida kust see vorm tuli ja miks seda kantakse
ning kui ebapraktilinesee on
ning kui ebapraktilinesee on
29 January 2017 17:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid jah, gener stereotyype tuleb arendada, kui me liigist ilma jääda ei soovi.
lihtsalt need mida suures osas rooma ajast meile näidatud on, ei ole miskid mehe ega naise eeskujud olnud
ega ideoloogiad mis mehe ja naise omavahelist tugevust suurendaks .. ja just selle pärast seda tehtutki, ja selle pärast ka suurt osa GenderStereotüüpide asju kasutatakse naist naiselikusest eemaldamiseks,
et nagu ta oleks võrdne mehega ja nagu ei omakski eri õigusi ja väärtustamist ükskõik millise mehe ees
lihtsalt need mida suures osas rooma ajast meile näidatud on, ei ole miskid mehe ega naise eeskujud olnud
ega ideoloogiad mis mehe ja naise omavahelist tugevust suurendaks .. ja just selle pärast seda tehtutki, ja selle pärast ka suurt osa GenderStereotüüpide asju kasutatakse naist naiselikusest eemaldamiseks,
et nagu ta oleks võrdne mehega ja nagu ei omakski eri õigusi ja väärtustamist ükskõik millise mehe ees
29 January 2017 17:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mõtlesin hetkeks, et see video teist külge promob, pildi järgi,
kuid nad seda väga normaalsuses hoidsid
kuid nad seda väga normaalsuses hoidsid
29 January 2017 17:17
Margus Meigo commented on Erika Kuningas's post.
Väga hea video! :)
29 January 2017 17:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mees aga kes ei suuda käsitsi pesu või põrandaid pesta või sokki nõeluda, pole suurt mehe nime ka väärt,
muidugi parem kui teeb naine, siis tehtud targema hoolitussega, armastuse kullaga üle kallatult, ... kuid mees kes takerdub naisega töö jaotustesse sellel ajal kui muidagi vaja ära tehaon, see tuleb üle parda visata
muidugi parem kui teeb naine, siis tehtud targema hoolitussega, armastuse kullaga üle kallatult, ... kuid mees kes takerdub naisega töö jaotustesse sellel ajal kui muidagi vaja ära tehaon, see tuleb üle parda visata
29 January 2017 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on Erika Kuningas's post.
Minul täpselt vastupidinearusaam, et meestel vaja meesteks hakata (tegijaks) ja naistel naisteks ehk ennast kuninga vääriliselt austama,
29 January 2017 17:11
Margus Meigo commented on Stephen William McNamara's photo.
how can a car add anything much to a woman
29 January 2017 07:41
Margus Meigo commented on Joyce Grable's post.
that would be far out
29 January 2017 07:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i can feel comsmnism red virus suspection, then i can not stand calm in trust jet if red suits or other suited minds to abstract things instead understanding elementary
29 January 2017 07:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 January 2017 06:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
How well will it look in english.
or not?
or not?
29 January 2017 04:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see on ikka pinges lyyrika, (n0t)
"Tanklas seisis mingi neiu, päris kena
Sõitsin pärale pärast seda pärisin bena
Teate, mis ta ütles mulle? Lugu päris piinlik
Ta küsis: "kas su masin vajab töötamiseks diislit?"
Rehvimuster söödud, jaguaridest möödun
Bemmivennad on löödud, neile ütlen head ööd nüüd
Sumedal suveööl sõidan tuules mind kuuled
Ja kui udu tuleb lülitan sisse udutuled
Punktist A punkti B, punktist B punkti A
Jõuan umbes täpselt ühe ja poole sekundiga
Ütled, et kui oma ladaga su joonele ma tulen
Siis ainus mida näen on sinu bemmi tagatuled
On see ilmsi või unes - mõtled oma bemmi sees
Vaatan taha küsides: "kas sul on tagatuled ees, mees?"
Niikuinii sa ei jõuagi kunagi minuni
Sest et minul on maailma kõige kiirem žiguli
"Tanklas seisis mingi neiu, päris kena
Sõitsin pärale pärast seda pärisin bena
Teate, mis ta ütles mulle? Lugu päris piinlik
Ta küsis: "kas su masin vajab töötamiseks diislit?"
Rehvimuster söödud, jaguaridest möödun
Bemmivennad on löödud, neile ütlen head ööd nüüd
Sumedal suveööl sõidan tuules mind kuuled
Ja kui udu tuleb lülitan sisse udutuled
Punktist A punkti B, punktist B punkti A
Jõuan umbes täpselt ühe ja poole sekundiga
Ütled, et kui oma ladaga su joonele ma tulen
Siis ainus mida näen on sinu bemmi tagatuled
On see ilmsi või unes - mõtled oma bemmi sees
Vaatan taha küsides: "kas sul on tagatuled ees, mees?"
Niikuinii sa ei jõuagi kunagi minuni
Sest et minul on maailma kõige kiirem žiguli
29 January 2017 03:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 January 2017 03:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 January 2017 03:03
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Prits's comment.
ei sobi st,
ja ega meestki, kas on mõtet
ja ega meestki, kas on mõtet
29 January 2017 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Prits's comment.
naisterahvast ei saa saata, nad seda meie meelsuse kontroliks öelda võivad
29 January 2017 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Prits's comment.
:D
29 January 2017 02:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
man i love this colors even when they not completly fit in in current full setup, but good for statement
29 January 2017 01:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nüüd need ajad kaasas, kus kunagi need keda teismelised tydrukud vanamoelisteks kutsusid, nad oleks võinud siis teada öelda, et tuleb aeg kus tema pilt saab olla üle kogu rate seina ausalt jasuurelt nii mitu korda korraga... veel 10 aasta pärast, siis kes seda oleks osanud uskuda
29 January 2017 01:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid see pole veel maksimum
29 January 2017 01:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kui lehte allapoole kerida, siis on 7 korda
29 January 2017 01:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nüüd lihtne seda teha, vanasti top 50 nes olles olid juba väga kõww tegelane
29 January 2017 01:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
4 korda sama naise pilt korraga esilehel pikalt, kas nii saab
29 January 2017 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
mõni läheb ja vaatab.. et terve esi ekraan linzut täis
29 January 2017 01:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mul ka kass taoline
29 January 2017 00:54
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Wauh, ime ilus!
29 January 2017 00:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
29 January 2017 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
stream otions that would not be touched by copy rights, only possible under communist protections, or also Royals can do it?
28 January 2017 21:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kui osad asjad hasti pahasti tundub olema,siis on vaja,
siis on vaja korda teha
siis on vaja korda teha
28 January 2017 20:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
st nagu sääl kirjutatud .
Kuid see pole nende pohi mure, mitte, ega see kes pohjustab millest vb alguse sai,
kuid asiselles.
et lausa tumedad motted ja ütlused nendel omavahel tundub olema välimise kesta järgi
Kuid see pole nende pohi mure, mitte, ega see kes pohjustab millest vb alguse sai,
kuid asiselles.
et lausa tumedad motted ja ütlused nendel omavahel tundub olema välimise kesta järgi
28 January 2017 20:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sest need kyberRynnaku mehed tundusid minevikus sellised olema nagu siin umbe:
sekundist 57 https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-narvihaigete-humn
sekundist 57 https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-narvihaigete-humn
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-narvihaigete-humn
28 January 2017 20:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
tegelikult oli plaan selle laulu osas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhvfmgvRO0g
Et mis moodi mehed kes soovivad laulda head ise ka peaks aru saama, et nad peavad heas käima hakkama ja siis jah.. kas enam saabki siiras olla tapanu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhvfmgvRO0g
Et mis moodi mehed kes soovivad laulda head ise ka peaks aru saama, et nad peavad heas käima hakkama ja siis jah.. kas enam saabki siiras olla tapanu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhvfmgvRO0g
28 January 2017 20:19
Margus Meigo replied to Margus von Einmann's comment.
ega sedasi petes millegagi mida pead välja sylit rasv'. jargneb
28 January 2017 19:06
Margus Meigo replied to Margus von Einmann's comment.
seega uued puhastusvahendid, nagu suulapid, vms, mäpuharjad, on uue daamide vms gentelmennide uuued trendid
28 January 2017 19:00
Margus Meigo replied to Margus von Einmann's comment.
ega kuulde piirkonnaski
28 January 2017 19:00
Margus Meigo replied to Margus von Einmann's comment.
et kui juba tava raskuses suule mõjub siis tava suule veelgi lihtsam ja peaks mõjuma ju üldiselt ajutiselt..
sest isegi poel viiakas hambaarjaga ju teise ees pesta
sest isegi poel viiakas hambaarjaga ju teise ees pesta
28 January 2017 18:59
Margus Meigo replied to Margus von Einmann's comment.
kuid pissi kohta pole mõtet küsida kui asjas miskit muud olulisust pole
kuid jah, hambapastat ei kasutanud ja märganud et frotee räkitku või muidu naturaalse tugeva riidega saab puhastada hambaid ka enamvähem,
kuid jah, hambapastat ei kasutanud ja märganud et frotee räkitku või muidu naturaalse tugeva riidega saab puhastada hambaid ka enamvähem,
28 January 2017 18:58
Margus Meigo replied to Margus von Einmann's comment.
hamba pasta oli siis puudulik, muidu ühe teadus nõia poolt (nõia heas mottes, talle väga solvas kui seda talel selgitada proovisin, et kas ta nagu on)
et selle Naise pooolt (kuid jah, vaadates nüüd see nõia material oli ka temast väljas algperioodil mille jaoks korg periood yldse tekkis)
Kuid jah, see pasta msi ta segas on miskist kolmest neljast asjast ja kookose rasvast, ja
pilt selline:
kuid jah, hari oli kahjuks plassmassi varrega kuid see eest vanadest ülepestud seakarvadest. (et siis plastik vars ja varred, puhastamis harised mulle ei meeldi, kuna naftaga nyhid vb hambaid vb agasamas liiga kova.. samas vb sea vurrud tegelikult ka liiga kõvad hambapesuks)
et selle Naise pooolt (kuid jah, vaadates nüüd see nõia material oli ka temast väljas algperioodil mille jaoks korg periood yldse tekkis)
Kuid jah, see pasta msi ta segas on miskist kolmest neljast asjast ja kookose rasvast, ja
pilt selline:
kuid jah, hari oli kahjuks plassmassi varrega kuid see eest vanadest ülepestud seakarvadest. (et siis plastik vars ja varred, puhastamis harised mulle ei meeldi, kuna naftaga nyhid vb hambaid vb agasamas liiga kova.. samas vb sea vurrud tegelikult ka liiga kõvad hambapesuks)
28 January 2017 18:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
28 January 2017 06:55
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Fichtner's comment.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
gets even better as next show was about going to shaman, ... if you can fix this also in, even gets higher, and electronic in nature direction, but level just high more in longway not high way, but long means dif versions, high same )nearly(, on higher levels.'28 January 2017 05:29
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Fichtner's comment.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
got creation and tits in related to cow, possibily,28 January 2017 05:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
for example if someone interfaires with empire Dreams, . ..can we say epire has not a right?
If someone can bother empire by stoping empire work to eliminate any kind of versions of humans or arias, that they need for advancing them self or securing faster grouth, ... then is is right to sue this person, or the one who is part of bothering culture?
Sure,
If we all got rights equal28 January 2017 05:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
no, not adressed by the one who got bothered28 January 2017 05:13
Margus Meigo commented on Peter Nguyen's post.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
if some does say: "..piss off you conservative liberal commie facist, try to force this political censor to us, to sensor all to be political... u know.. censore... like the democracy... some are so facist that they are against, complete domination by democracy..
who dares to be anty deomocratic to be against system that completly has plan to eliminate all other systems and methods to question ones self aims , ... bad ass to make a system forced on that threatens you with everything if you not surrender to them, under slogan.. well, in any slogan one chooses but usually related to fact of you being bad becouse does not support to surrender to capitalism, communism or democracy kind of systems. ..."
will it be censored becouse lack of some version of linguistic or becouse of being dicky or offencive or honest"
there is actual laws, that censor about truth is allowed efen if censor makes reallity less good ,
so when things are allowed that are not good
How can you imagine world to become good?28 January 2017 05:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: cDc Ninja Strike Force
in Discover Channel "when cow put mind to break out from something there is really nothing that cna stop Her"28 January 2017 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: cDc Ninja Strike Force
[not real but true thought, no.. not true but real idea}
#yothExchange project, to bring some various youth groups togheder with cow believers,
EU,and many, would pay for it if we would be caring to be sober enought to do it
//but yea when world has finished training usey (.gov), would be easy to make on_going meetups between all groups and ones from old Hax0r CDs, to test the mindset and reasons and if one knows about Life also and if we agree on all, including few years mission work to meet and test others about what help the need or explaining, that librism, communism, greekromanism is no go for nature ones that we need to be our friends, with female sepcies also,
would be hard not to turn it to educational and nice28 January 2017 04:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: cDc Ninja Strike Force
and this was legal business,
but yea, is She still hotting?28 January 2017 04:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: cDc Ninja Strike Force
http://www.ytcracker.com/music/spamtec%20-%20still%20the%20greatest/05%20-%20spamtec%20-%20delilah.mp3http://www.ytcracker.com/music/spamtec%20-%20still%20the%20greatest/05%20-%20spamtec%20-%20delilah.mp3
28 January 2017 04:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: cDc Ninja Strike Force
why good music has been turned in to crazines and still called same (music)28 January 2017 04:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: cDc Ninja Strike Force
before giving up and looking some other songs and forgeting about it.. but promis to keep in mind, to bring it to play at this time when drive gets connected28 January 2017 04:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: cDc Ninja Strike Force
so anyway can you find this ladys song?
(age when people get to lazy to connect 1 meter away located hardDrive, instead googeling it, for hours at times)28 January 2017 04:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: cDc Ninja Strike Force
legal way to send hacker a money so no one can blame, is to buy ones iTunes CDs.. wonder, how public is this usage ?28 January 2017 04:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
28 January 2017 04:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: cDc Ninja Strike Force
no not that, but
http://www.ytcracker.com/v2016/http://www.ytcracker.com/v2016/
28 January 2017 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
28 January 2017 04:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: cDc Ninja Strike Force
yt s: spamtech talia28 January 2017 04:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: cDc Ninja Strike Force
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhebl9oD5Lc but:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhebl9oD5Lc
28 January 2017 04:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//WD taking IBM..Hitachi..
The following is the genealogy of the remaining participants:
1967: Hitachi enters the HDD business
1967: Toshiba enters the HDD business
1979: Seagate Technology[52] founded
1988: Western Digital, then a well-known controller designer, enters the HDD business by acquiring Tandon Corporation's disk manufacturing division[53]
1988: Samsung enters the worldwide HDD market, previously having manufactured Comport disk drives for the Korean market[54]
1989: Seagate purchases Control Data's HDD business
1990: Maxtor purchases MiniScribe out of bankruptcy, making it the core of its low-end HDDs
1994: Quantum purchases DEC's storage division, giving it a high-end disk range to go with its more consumer-oriented ProDrive range
1996: Seagate acquires Conner Peripherals in a merger
2000: Maxtor acquires Quantum's HDD business; Quantum remains in the tape business
2003: Hitachi acquires the majority of IBM's disk division, renaming it Hitachi Global Storage Technologies (HGST)
2006: Seagate acquires Maxtor
2009: Toshiba acquires Fujitsu's HDD division[55]
2011: Western Digital proposes acquiring Hitachi's HDD division[50]
2011: Seagate acquires Samsung's HDD division[49]
2012: Western Digital acquires Hitachi Global Storage Technologies[50]
2015: Western Digital acquires SanDisk[56]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_hard_disk_drives#/media/File:Diagram_of_Hard_Disk_Drive_Manufacturer_Consolidation.svg
The following is the genealogy of the remaining participants:
1967: Hitachi enters the HDD business
1967: Toshiba enters the HDD business
1979: Seagate Technology[52] founded
1988: Western Digital, then a well-known controller designer, enters the HDD business by acquiring Tandon Corporation's disk manufacturing division[53]
1988: Samsung enters the worldwide HDD market, previously having manufactured Comport disk drives for the Korean market[54]
1989: Seagate purchases Control Data's HDD business
1990: Maxtor purchases MiniScribe out of bankruptcy, making it the core of its low-end HDDs
1994: Quantum purchases DEC's storage division, giving it a high-end disk range to go with its more consumer-oriented ProDrive range
1996: Seagate acquires Conner Peripherals in a merger
2000: Maxtor acquires Quantum's HDD business; Quantum remains in the tape business
2003: Hitachi acquires the majority of IBM's disk division, renaming it Hitachi Global Storage Technologies (HGST)
2006: Seagate acquires Maxtor
2009: Toshiba acquires Fujitsu's HDD division[55]
2011: Western Digital proposes acquiring Hitachi's HDD division[50]
2011: Seagate acquires Samsung's HDD division[49]
2012: Western Digital acquires Hitachi Global Storage Technologies[50]
2015: Western Digital acquires SanDisk[56]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_hard_disk_drives#/media/File:Diagram_of_Hard_Disk_Drive_Manufacturer_Consolidation.svg
28 January 2017 04:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
2009, And few times after that price was less then 100 soon
"A number of advanced technologies enable the speed, capacity and performance of WD's Caviar Green 1.5 TB and 2 TB hard drives. Those include: StableTrac™, which secures the motor shaft at both ends to reduce system-induced vibration and stabilize platters for accurate tracking during read and write operations1; IntelliPower™, which fine-tunes the balance of spin speed, transfer rate and caching algorithms designed to deliver both significant power savings and solid performance; IntelliSeek™, which calculates optimum seek speeds to lower power consumption, noise, and vibration; and NoTouch™ ramp load technology, which is designed to ensure the recording head never touches the disk media resulting in significantly less wear to the recording head and media, as well as better drive protection while in transit.
Availability and Pricing
The WD Caviar Green 2 TB is available at select resellers and distributors. MSRP for the WD Caviar Green 2 TB hard drives (model WD20EADS) is $299.00 USD ..."
http://web.archive.org/web/20090130065732/http://wdc.com/en/company/releases/PressRelease.asp?release=%7B01D0EF49-E149-410A-A173-F872D0E6C335%7D
"A number of advanced technologies enable the speed, capacity and performance of WD's Caviar Green 1.5 TB and 2 TB hard drives. Those include: StableTrac™, which secures the motor shaft at both ends to reduce system-induced vibration and stabilize platters for accurate tracking during read and write operations1; IntelliPower™, which fine-tunes the balance of spin speed, transfer rate and caching algorithms designed to deliver both significant power savings and solid performance; IntelliSeek™, which calculates optimum seek speeds to lower power consumption, noise, and vibration; and NoTouch™ ramp load technology, which is designed to ensure the recording head never touches the disk media resulting in significantly less wear to the recording head and media, as well as better drive protection while in transit.
Availability and Pricing
The WD Caviar Green 2 TB is available at select resellers and distributors. MSRP for the WD Caviar Green 2 TB hard drives (model WD20EADS) is $299.00 USD ..."
http://web.archive.org/web/20090130065732/http://wdc.com/en/company/releases/PressRelease.asp?release=%7B01D0EF49-E149-410A-A173-F872D0E6C335%7D
28 January 2017 04:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.
28 January 2017 03:51
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Wau, ...BMW ga.. on BMW ka muidu statistiliselt nende enim kasutatavaim autu v?
28 January 2017 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But friend told, he would not post it, so..
as not sure, why not, still posted
as not sure, why not, still posted
28 January 2017 03:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
28 January 2017 03:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
with 200 grams You would assume ...Exabyte times... TB?
But yea, 2TB it self even nearly not enought to save one movie on 4K with normal home camera
http://www.4kshooters.net/2014/06/25/how-much-hard-disk-space-do-you-need-shooting-4k/
can it be when last smallest particle usage for saving is archived?
Will bytes stay as main measurment still, or there is some other mooving measurment metthods that can be explain better future content that is saved and how, or even why in some way, in Large minds, *in whos mind Your world can fit in
But yea, 2TB it self even nearly not enought to save one movie on 4K with normal home camera
http://www.4kshooters.net/2014/06/25/how-much-hard-disk-space-do-you-need-shooting-4k/
can it be when last smallest particle usage for saving is archived?
Will bytes stay as main measurment still, or there is some other mooving measurment metthods that can be explain better future content that is saved and how, or even why in some way, in Large minds, *in whos mind Your world can fit in
http://www.4kshooters.net/2014/06/25/how-much-hard-disk-space-do-you-need-shooting-4k/
28 January 2017 03:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nice still, if they work good, even with so small storages
with so much weight
with so much weight
28 January 2017 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Still not impressed, but slow rise does show alternative methods for coming up soon, as also vinuls was best enought to go back to but not a final to record all
" now Samsung has managed to cram 48 layers of 3-bits per cell. It provides enough space to hold a lifetime of photos. It is equipped with Samsung's new 32 GB NAND flash memory technology. With the total capacity of 768 terabytes, Samsung demonstrates why 48 of the drives are packed into a single server "
https://datarecovery.wondershare.com/top-5-largest-external-hard-drives-and-choosing-the-right-storage-capacity.html
" now Samsung has managed to cram 48 layers of 3-bits per cell. It provides enough space to hold a lifetime of photos. It is equipped with Samsung's new 32 GB NAND flash memory technology. With the total capacity of 768 terabytes, Samsung demonstrates why 48 of the drives are packed into a single server "
https://datarecovery.wondershare.com/top-5-largest-external-hard-drives-and-choosing-the-right-storage-capacity.html
https://datarecovery.wondershare.com/top-5-largest-external-hard-drives-and-choosing-the-right-storage-capacity.html
28 January 2017 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as they have money what they want to put in good things as long they still have option to exchange it to something good anduseful their own surviving and friendships
28 January 2017 02:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
28 January 2017 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so is it Better if Elisa Eesti is allowed to buy Elion (tulnukas, Telia, swalowed Estonia Mobile Company EMT long time ago, as professional Elite phone company, kind of like ERR for media.. not all, but enought to competite respectfully in ALL ages (ERR uudised))
28 January 2017 02:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
oh, now i remeber,
Question was Will You agree, who will buy who first, if?
(take, in consideration IFF)
Question was Will You agree, who will buy who first, if?
(take, in consideration IFF)
28 January 2017 02:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
arght, this transmission went hooHoo
28 January 2017 02:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Or who would buy who first when Allowed, as eventually will be, if One World Dow is correct
not sure if the same one that Communists in
not sure if the same one that Communists in
28 January 2017 02:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
PS: can you take even more better options, then me, what configuration have to be defoult, is defoult, and from defoult able to reset to centerpoint, but defoult is not a centerpoint, just run by it perhaps
28 January 2017 00:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in other 2 we may understand, it is good to have that option to choose this, but in this one, should not
28 January 2017 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
28 January 2017 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Difference in asia and muslim privasy, also asia considers private to be private even in unprivate videos, but then there is produced these fke Japanese TV shows that do not represent other then showing what is wrongly allowed in Japans name Meaning,
but some culture makes eyes privte, face that is, another culture allows only to show face or eyes, while if something, then at least eyes would be hiden in another
So,
but some culture makes eyes privte, face that is, another culture allows only to show face or eyes, while if something, then at least eyes would be hiden in another
So,
28 January 2017 00:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but ya...when serving Creation is ur job u newer loose as long u stay calm... besides, ...man..forgot what i got to say, will go do some real work now in flowe Mill, ..with smile, as no need yo worry... ups besides one thing that just come to my mind now....!!!
27 January 2017 09:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
most hard is to make littlebit more then a little money on my skillsett. to make large products is easy, as it will be lige egregor keeping it self alive for a time... but making littlebit money whitout loosing morals or time is so hard ...but as my mja calender told,this is my task i must learn in here, to be small and ordinary.. for the large messups in past perhaps.
27 January 2017 09:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
loosing job part was also kind of not same serious as real working people ...as only had one long job after i discovered love,the woman who i have been loving but not realazing, quit drinking, devoted to God, quit meet..tv and 9 to 9 job to focus on real solutions and what matters..well... went all not so fast so well as imagined,hoped,wanted... 7 years later soon and everything is less, besides hair and a bit wisdom
27 January 2017 09:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
correction: there is still friends whose credit is not low, old classs brother called up for the post in here and totally understood, becouse cared. so yea.. can get with couple of days my topLap one fixed perhaps, so day, weekend is :) smiley
27 January 2017 09:29
Margus Meigo commented on Facebook Security's note.
remember to connect estonia global id residency card also as Andrus Ansip asked. there is reason for future
27 January 2017 04:48
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
there is one enryh or..with e.. blue royal logo,let him add u to same chat where we are with india ppl. my phone not so easy
27 January 2017 04:46
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
i will not look videos right now
27 January 2017 04:44
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
i mean nafta
27 January 2017 04:42
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
so what purpose the oil is in a ground?
27 January 2017 04:42
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
also helps to sync if people think or do what i tell to do
27 January 2017 04:30
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
i just focusing respecting this land we got and hope jt is really a land most of the time
27 January 2017 04:30
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
but maters what u do whit peoples... whit al the respect ti hardware and earth crust, we must know reasons... there is also more reasons why humans are in quarantine or in planetary spirit psychiatric hospital world. multy layers
27 January 2017 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
as i told, i not conserned so much what shape it is but what it is, what for, why are we, etc. for me the shape is just some techbical thing like how motherboard looks a like.. but
27 January 2017 04:24
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
and yeas,you are right
27 January 2017 04:21
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
not know how to conplayn or ask help right way so i try not to
27 January 2017 04:20
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
there is not jet reason to explain for others in clear language, as it would make impression as only that happened or that it is wprth
27 January 2017 04:19
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
but if there would be easy to put layer of text on my profile to make it understandable, i would, but perhaps not to everywhere..some have to be for wonderibg in originality... and who Really is interrested, will kbow how to find what is meanings. but there got to be reasons, why soneone would want to be interested of someone else trouvles, unless they Worldhealer, then it is reason r
27 January 2017 04:16
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
i not need much other people to feel for my trouble, unless they want help, but as i can not expect that then will not take effort much, to get my scrible notes up in here, also good from robot protection and few other things..
27 January 2017 04:12
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
no worrys, i write for mostly my self anyway, this what are needed for general public i will take ine, right now is miracle i can write even so good...t
27 January 2017 04:09
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
can u show me broadband speed test result screen
27 January 2017 04:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but testing,leRning these things can get u cold, loosing and alieneting friends, stay alone more then tesla is basic sideeffect. But when this who need do not get wgat u did for them,..thwn perhaps should have try more or maybe was impossile, but just beciuse something appears to be impossile is not reason to give up but instead try more after rest, with more tools as long you are kept alive or just be happy or pleased thT you try, and try and do
27 January 2017 03:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but what u imagine this u attract...so will change my imagination when lesson, study subject is passed, when work is done in this time, finished investigations what is and can be true,in physical world, .. this gives peace to stay calm,when u know dor sure,tht things are not just only ordinary,for me
27 January 2017 03:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ps: and if ever anyones friend happen to read who was in house while i was away...please leve me a letter next time what and why u need, so i can help u. there is many ways to record and tetext movements. like taking pic about things tht should not change when u go and when u come and comparing it
27 January 2017 03:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and top of some other things that sound to grazy to mention.. but yea, as people was able to get all done befer net generaation..then i got also
27 January 2017 03:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
there is also top of broken laptops ( whose hrddrives just not broken now but memstick soft fir booting aabd chipsets also...so no cd booting.. got some thing happened with one screen like in cheeasy bad hackermovies...wit colors and screen picture destruction in to colors... git some pic also...but thus phone.. not able to upload pictures...the other phone that worked up to now for net and fb stop also working on same day...s
27 January 2017 03:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but as sure then was expected things to go bizarre after picking on life...as sure is it will get better and good,
27 January 2017 03:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but lets hope that i was not complitly late
27 January 2017 03:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and after got finnaly some awesame cat medicine and food for Her ..she, the wild cat managed to go away
27 January 2017 03:35
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
if i would be able to explain how and what situation i use rigbt now to write it... i
27 January 2017 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
and do you have house in where to use or possibility to get it paid in a way with no troubleas. luckily my company u can pay upfront many years
27 January 2017 02:11
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
but yea, 100 is available for 30 euros per month... but jssue is..not the speed,but what we do with it..and how much is upload and how filtered or port restricted
27 January 2017 02:08
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
mate this is ur local network speed,go to speednet test or brodband speed test to see...
27 January 2017 02:06
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
plä, saabo taas!
26 January 2017 06:00
Margus Meigo replied to Rait Puusaar's comment.
there is no safe mode, when partitions are broken top of everything...
26 January 2017 06:00
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kui just eriti Zen ükskõiksus ole
või isegi vahest hipilik, hipsterilik st
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbb64mBloD8
või isegi vahest hipilik, hipsterilik st
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbb64mBloD8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbb64mBloD8
26 January 2017 05:59
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
japan has much faster
26 January 2017 05:58
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
in short distance
26 January 2017 05:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
when talking about breasts '
26 January 2017 05:45
Margus Meigo commented on Erin Andrews's photo.
but please, do not screen with mammography that detects to late and is one of the censer causes,
look into thermal detection
look into thermal detection
26 January 2017 05:45
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ehk siis kurjuse osa
26 January 2017 05:36
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ükskõiksus on kurjuse ori
26 January 2017 05:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
besides Communists have right to do what ever they want, and empires have right to do what they want, and.. ... hey, we got to adapt, innovate, not stir up false anti Asian ideology,
based on few sector bitter failures
based on few sector bitter failures
26 January 2017 00:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
on our new global promote Estonia program,
what a insanely mistaken strategy
just because some land people stole or hack things, to copy, is not reason enough to blame their culture, state .. on our own failures to keep going
what a insanely mistaken strategy
just because some land people stole or hack things, to copy, is not reason enough to blame their culture, state .. on our own failures to keep going
26 January 2017 00:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
seKord veel vabatahtlikult
24 January 2017 12:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ERR ja Uudis Plus uuest stuudiost.
24 January 2017 12:05
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
vaatasin et mu OSide partitsioonid olid ka maha lastud,
hoia veel uksi lahti lootes, et ainult need kellel vaja, tulevad, moistlikult
hoia veel uksi lahti lootes, et ainult need kellel vaja, tulevad, moistlikult
23 January 2017 23:51
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
valus
23 January 2017 23:50
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
yea, eriti kui neid kirju kirjutada mis ka sinuga saatsime ja tirida asju kust arvatakse, et ega keegi ei m2rka >D
23 January 2017 23:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i will be clad when i see results in 5, 10 years
23 January 2017 23:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ones soft tones are no more illusion then another strong ones, they still wear a tie . They did not mention at all, about starting to take care hundreds of thousands of gang members in USA and about starting to clean out Communism in USA, (well, if they take Media "fake news" campaing for real, this might do it a bit.. )
23 January 2017 23:06
Margus Meigo commented on Ele GE's post.
So what will be done now?
23 January 2017 19:20
Margus Meigo commented on Francisco De Assis Regis Rodrigues Jr.'s photo.
What is the material?
23 January 2017 19:17
Margus Meigo commented on Facebook's video.
But it only works well, if strategy is culturally and politically correct and bit sharp, a bit. And light and serious on looks, with deep information integration. But i meditated my self to a homeless again so who knows to who and how i can finnaly give my All, so them can enable me to vizualise the rest. I am in home with human siztem needs and with what kind of teams we need. Good that You join in with Bill as well, for him i got ideas long before there was fb, and much is still relevant Today before hardcore VR, ... to have unshakable advantage in new playground who wait to take you on
23 January 2017 18:51
Margus Meigo commented on Facebook's video.
But as of now, after a lot of life meditations, i got more Large ideas,that are easy to implement, then ever before. One of my ideas i dreamed to Give to yahoo is platform for ideas and methods to make world better, focusing first at web, but in direction to real life, was dreaming to connect it with fb so noone ever can say common frase "wasting time in fb!?" ... Idea is to change fb imago in far future
23 January 2017 18:41
Margus Meigo commented on Facebook's video.
Andreea, also i lost my long hosted page to Russian clever criminals and now they sale to someone or operate them self, page with over million likes and one of the kind importance. Send emaills also to support.. But no help because i let criminals who pretended to be someone else in my self. Back then there was no editor option, had to add them as co•admins... So yes, we need justice on our work rights, to get back what is easy to proove, that is ours
23 January 2017 18:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
uu 31 views,
why other posts do not have view counter?
why other posts do not have view counter?
22 January 2017 07:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
last part can wait
lets hope Ireland will not veto again some FB tec
lets hope Ireland will not veto again some FB tec
22 January 2017 07:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I also would need a small studio time and light team of what I know to be needed and some advisors just for just in case. To explain this all better (for sure the language advisors as well, to make what I think readable and translatable, programmable and legalized )
22 January 2017 07:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I screenshoot that, just to be sure
22 January 2017 07:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(okey, at least to search up some from a base and read up to select one, ... for that this is needed also, what I planned, the semi AI whole data categorization hybrid base , multy layered reality supported and inter linked all that can, like with moving with AI inside not just time but in a cultural contexts and situation's based on what options and answers change ... intentional moving with AI, and ai monitoring also probable reality around Your contacts to inform You about possible changes need to be done, just to bother Your sleeping if You in Whitehouse or call u back when you spend to much time on rabbit hole but zunami is about to come in personal or real world (friend happened something emotional or someone's stocks failed etc ) )
22 January 2017 07:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
can he write a poem ?
Haiku?
Sounds so good, that one can. I mean, the voice sound, has inside intelligence, that it could soon
can he write a poem ?
Haiku?
Sounds so good, that one can. I mean, the voice sound, has inside intelligence, that it could soon
22 January 2017 06:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
this would be so great idea, Communist could use it, with out much of reverse engineering but totally opposite way
a way that it was build to prevent
oh.. got to think about that
Mark
this would be so great idea, Communist could use it, with out much of reverse engineering but totally opposite way
a way that it was build to prevent
oh.. got to think about that
Mark
22 January 2017 06:56
Margus Meigo commented on Facebook's post.
teach Travis to recognize what is communist influenced news and opinions and what are safe, parent like
22 January 2017 06:54
Margus Meigo commented on Facebook's post.
Why would You need to know how warm is on room
22 January 2017 06:51
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Ian McGregor's post.
Do You like Stalin more then Hillary or Obama?
// " Stalin (he was no great orator or exhibitionist " in your text
Barack Obama
Michelle Obama
The Obama White House
// " Stalin (he was no great orator or exhibitionist " in your text
Barack Obama
Michelle Obama
The Obama White House
22 January 2017 06:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
wonder what can we do to help Hillary, right?
22 January 2017 06:04
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Ian McGregor's post.
22 January 2017 06:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You can not change the time
if you not allowed
(for other people in all, ... welll, IN time yes, can make changes but change the time, why?)
if you not allowed
(for other people in all, ... welll, IN time yes, can make changes but change the time, why?)
22 January 2017 05:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
linguistic what part will stay in mind on feed loading from the ones who cared to read (and these ones will be interested about anyway first of all, at first, more, for own league, direction step by step, if that programming helps , then in so easy price, let's kids try, the great leaders told)
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it can be even done naturally if not hacked, if not DNS.. if not by force or by finance, it can be done naturally also, ... nearly naturally,
by just getting people to write so,
but it is not just so
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it can be even done naturally if not hacked, if not DNS.. if not by force or by finance, it can be done naturally also, ... nearly naturally,
by just getting people to write so,
but it is not just so
22 January 2017 05:47
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Ian McGregor's post.
what "petard" means?
I can not continue reading when unknown comes
or to think, why for so many unknown was used, for so known topic
I can not continue reading when unknown comes
or to think, why for so many unknown was used, for so known topic
22 January 2017 05:41
Margus Meigo commented on Tuhin Kumar Dutta's post.
if it was real why to write real un realway
22 January 2017 05:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
22 January 2017 05:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
.
Armastuse Kunn
Kunagi ka Tuleb
kuigi see reaalsem ju kui kivikuningas, või kuidas?
---
King of love
Sei nie zu
Auch wenn es eher real ist als der König des Rock, oder was?
(Automatisch übersetzt)
Armastuse Kunn
Kunagi ka Tuleb
kuigi see reaalsem ju kui kivikuningas, või kuidas?
---
King of love
Sei nie zu
Auch wenn es eher real ist als der König des Rock, oder was?
(Automatisch übersetzt)
22 January 2017 05:36
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's post.
by sending a this who's soul should have become in to fetus on to another round, teiseleringile, as they prefer to wait for a daughter.
And no there will not be demand for man if they go away as women dot die out with out man, then,
So what are these things that man can offer to a women for life time, what best robot human imitators newer can or will be able what is needed now and then
And no there will not be demand for man if they go away as women dot die out with out man, then,
So what are these things that man can offer to a women for life time, what best robot human imitators newer can or will be able what is needed now and then
22 January 2017 05:18
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's post.
(but if biological reason is passed and all can become on holding child as virgin Mary 's .. THEN is there still more reason for an extra man for among what there is already.
How can man stop this knowledge to reach a women, that they can choose if child will be or not, after they find out will it be male or female, all with out artificial abortion but with a mind )
How can man stop this knowledge to reach a women, that they can choose if child will be or not, after they find out will it be male or female, all with out artificial abortion but with a mind )
22 January 2017 05:16
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's post.
for keeping man alive,
for having reason, point, for a man, from a realistic simplistic materialistic point of view, for what reason should women keep man and give her a birth less then she wants, when she wants and whit who she wants, when she can choose what she wants
with mind
for having reason, point, for a man, from a realistic simplistic materialistic point of view, for what reason should women keep man and give her a birth less then she wants, when she wants and whit who she wants, when she can choose what she wants
with mind
22 January 2017 05:14
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's post.
yes,good, but why
You still right but poetic, now we must also know why and why can not not want to give her this what She wants among what we need
You still right but poetic, now we must also know why and why can not not want to give her this what She wants among what we need
22 January 2017 05:12
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's post.
Ja seee aus kes leidsi, see mis tasu tema tegelt saab või märkamist... koolitöö osas prygimäge on palju palju kasulikum külastada kui kontorit
22 January 2017 05:10
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's photo.
ohlik koht ,
ohtlik potensiaaly mööda lasta , kui oige asja jaoks ei opeta
ohtlik potensiaaly mööda lasta , kui oige asja jaoks ei opeta
22 January 2017 05:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mida pakuTe?
22 January 2017 05:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
maitsemeelega (hammustamist juhib maitsemeel, suures osas)
22 January 2017 05:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
no one still has no beard
so everything is still under control
there is no reason to relax, everything is still under control,
we repeat, everything is still under controltroltrol
so everything is still under control
there is no reason to relax, everything is still under control,
we repeat, everything is still under controltroltrol
22 January 2017 05:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and the first guy is not fooling anyone
who is hes friends anyway?
Deepest, and workers
and boss?
who is hes friends anyway?
Deepest, and workers
and boss?
22 January 2017 05:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i just cant get it
22 January 2017 05:01
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's photo.
f, still white
22 January 2017 05:01
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
mida ta pakub?
22 January 2017 05:00
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
is this album name
22 January 2017 04:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kuid jah, wikipedia test viisanurkade eemaldamine (vaadake adminnite auhindade logosi näiteks,... sellega vaja koigil meil tegeleda, wikitamisega)
22 January 2017 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
rahulikult arvutiski, kuifi, et peaaegu ju et saab, kuid tuleviku mastaap mille piires ette teha saab on väike, seega isegi mugav olek tegemiseks .. on vales suhtes, antud andidega vahest tundub, et piisavalt penikoormasaabastega edasi sammuda juaks, ... sest sutsukaupa kasvades kiilub kinni arvan, ja siisaeglustub kuna liialt vaheetappe millele pole vaja ega raisata kuna ei arenda üleliia võrreldes potensiaalse ajakadu ja ajas tagasi tegemiste võimalustegsa
22 January 2017 04:56
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tööd ei saa teha riigi ja maailma parandamisega
22 January 2017 04:54
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Kirsimägi's comment.
et rist ikka elule ligemal kui viisnurk
kui iganes veider see noortele voib tunduda, nagu mul vb ema ütleks
kui iganes veider see noortele voib tunduda, nagu mul vb ema ütleks
22 January 2017 04:47
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22 January 2017 04:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid nii, et tööd peaaegu, et ei saagi teha
ise pean mõtlema, palju
ise pean mõtlema, palju
22 January 2017 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
22 January 2017 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on Harri Kingo's post.
22 January 2017 03:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
võiks olla ja ikka sobiks ka veel paremini
22 January 2017 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
(vihje sonale adunud)
22 January 2017 03:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
still makes my eyes water
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzlMeTxVdH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzlMeTxVdH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzlMeTxVdH8
22 January 2017 03:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oh, she was there,,, just didnot see, as to humble in alll colors and names even, looks working less to loook les sbut normal to stay
22 January 2017 03:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
wikepedia päikeseusku koguaeg võitnud olnud,
22 January 2017 03:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as it is one and the same but they bring it to them self,
not the ones who honestly are in there but the ideological ones actually not belonging to office nor want to do that job and all other that is needed to keep human race normally running
do you have for all positions, all versions, replaced, covered, to switch ?
not the ones who honestly are in there but the ideological ones actually not belonging to office nor want to do that job and all other that is needed to keep human race normally running
do you have for all positions, all versions, replaced, covered, to switch ?
22 January 2017 02:53
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22 January 2017 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and just in case, all data has been bring to a public option
just it become revolutionary or calm .. normal, steady , spacey at times just becouse it is us, but generally on the shadow of Capitalism
the ones who was about to do something, can transform as others as it is just in the end one game against another if you believe in game but if not then we know we are right
just it become revolutionary or calm .. normal, steady , spacey at times just becouse it is us, but generally on the shadow of Capitalism
the ones who was about to do something, can transform as others as it is just in the end one game against another if you believe in game but if not then we know we are right
22 January 2017 02:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(and some day, people even compare the time on the insignifigant image and the time it started to enter to a server, just in case)
22 January 2017 02:48
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22 January 2017 02:47
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22 January 2017 02:45
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22 January 2017 02:44
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22 January 2017 02:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(inglismal, need kes olid nõus sõjalisse enda pere havitavasse komflikti minema, nii suuresti nõustusid oma ideaalidega kui vaid võimalus antakse, kuid neid häiris SEE nii palju, või siis need keda ei häirinud, need nautisid või häbinesid, noh, viimased vast niigi parimad)
22 January 2017 02:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see isegi anarhisti tõi õiglust nõudma,
kui BeebiNäo vituvõimu laulus
kui BeebiNäo vituvõimu laulus
22 January 2017 02:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sellist slängi inglased välja ei kannatanud
22 January 2017 02:26
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22 January 2017 02:25
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22 January 2017 02:24
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22 January 2017 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
22 January 2017 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
A
22 January 2017 02:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
[Seansi lõpp]
22 January 2017 02:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mis siis kui ma ütlen, Sulle,
Et kogu see neli aastat ja enne seda kokku, oli lihtsalt selle viimase pildi siia panekuks:
Siis ma ei ütleks tõtt,
Kuid maljus, et see praegu oluline, on küll
võimalik?
Et kogu see neli aastat ja enne seda kokku, oli lihtsalt selle viimase pildi siia panekuks:
Siis ma ei ütleks tõtt,
Kuid maljus, et see praegu oluline, on küll
võimalik?
22 January 2017 02:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja hea eesti nali on iseenda oma
22 January 2017 02:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
iga hea nali saab kord eesti naljaks
22 January 2017 02:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(eesti tooted ka ei sobi, sest need on niii ajast ees)
22 January 2017 02:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ei, see teine,
Actual Camera, please,
Actual Camera, please,
22 January 2017 02:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
22 January 2017 02:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or productive way
22 January 2017 01:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or if You can but nicely
22 January 2017 01:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(jes this is my work, please do not bother me, )
22 January 2017 01:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
kuid olgu, tegelt ka on, palju, isegi kui poole ligi,
miljardi
miljardi
22 January 2017 01:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see raisk on ikka kopi mälus veel, millleks AJAL kus teema pole veel rahunenud selliseid asju teha, ega SEDASI selliseid asju ei tehta , nu on küll noh, ise peaksid võtma psydeeliat ja teadma ja arusaama, nu vähemalt kuna võtad ja aksepteerid nende asjade votmist, usucd sellesse, siis on voimalik Sind needusest päästa, et paaritamisse omavahel sobimatudesse usud
22 January 2017 01:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hmm
22 January 2017 01:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid oskab ka Sinu keelt
22 January 2017 01:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
22 January 2017 01:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mina ka
22 January 2017 01:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või mingi muu,
jalgrattast pole vaja leiutada eks, Juba inimese toodand on inimese toodang,
Ja unixit hakkame ka veel kasutama, (või psd'd /ehk midagi mida iganes veel mis kasuks, milline virutuaal versiooni reaalsuse versioonide kogum plus see oige asi)
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Ja browseritel seliseid vigasi ka enam pole, kuna on arusaaav arvutile milleks arvutit kasutatakse ju
ja milleks mitte
enamasti
jalgrattast pole vaja leiutada eks, Juba inimese toodand on inimese toodang,
Ja unixit hakkame ka veel kasutama, (või psd'd /ehk midagi mida iganes veel mis kasuks, milline virutuaal versiooni reaalsuse versioonide kogum plus see oige asi)
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Ja browseritel seliseid vigasi ka enam pole, kuna on arusaaav arvutile milleks arvutit kasutatakse ju
ja milleks mitte
enamasti
22 January 2017 01:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jah, just Mirco, mitte see makro
22 January 2017 01:33
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22 January 2017 01:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
esimese hooga jäädavalt mingi versiooniga alfabetiSt
22 January 2017 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
a
and goodle samamoodi,
anna juba see asi mis kysitakse, ära Karda
(niigi sa murdosa tegelikuest tulemustest vanasti näitasid ainult lõplikult tavainimesele)
and goodle samamoodi,
anna juba see asi mis kysitakse, ära Karda
(niigi sa murdosa tegelikuest tulemustest vanasti näitasid ainult lõplikult tavainimesele)
22 January 2017 01:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mis sul puudu on?
22 January 2017 01:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
are you serious mr mac?
22 January 2017 01:27
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22 January 2017 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see kolab nagu olle reklaam aga
22 January 2017 01:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
v'õi küsimärgita on rohkem
22 January 2017 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See on minu sona, Aeg kus üksteist häirida laseme on läbisaamise aeg
22 January 2017 01:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jah, nii see ol moeldud, kuid Kommu ajal oleks keelatud sest nagu valge ja p..kollane ei anna või annab mingi asja mis on või mis peab olema mitte, nagu kollane ja sinine ukraina pärast oleks keelatud, sinimust Eestlaste jms,
Teatrietendus lkeelati kunagi ära kus Dekoratsiooni oli kasutatud valge ja vist ka mustaga, või oli see vastu pidi, ... kuid ära keerati , keelati, sest kas oli kommurite plaan või siiis eestlaste oma, et nii hea kraam et viitsiti või rutiinselt revolutsioonist mahajajäänud officerid, sest aeg kus keegi kedagi häirib on läbi.
Teatrietendus lkeelati kunagi ära kus Dekoratsiooni oli kasutatud valge ja vist ka mustaga, või oli see vastu pidi, ... kuid ära keerati , keelati, sest kas oli kommurite plaan või siiis eestlaste oma, et nii hea kraam et viitsiti või rutiinselt revolutsioonist mahajajäänud officerid, sest aeg kus keegi kedagi häirib on läbi.
22 January 2017 01:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ning up timega:
(kui votad ainult 20 tabi lahti juba siis enamus portaalide peale poole päevaga asi logiseb, mis arvutid need turule lubatakse!!)
(kui votad ainult 20 tabi lahti juba siis enamus portaalide peale poole päevaga asi logiseb, mis arvutid need turule lubatakse!!)
22 January 2017 00:54
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22 January 2017 00:54
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22 January 2017 00:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tavaline võrreldes ebatavalisega, normist lõplikult väljasolevaga (ehk mis ei ole tavaline)
22 January 2017 00:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuigi nende seljatagune on viisnurki täis, ja ka inimeste noorte oma siirastes mõtetes teadmatult
vähe vast veel võrrreldes hilisemisega selle osas suuresti mis praegu on teadlikult
(jah see eelmine lause on täiesti tavaline ja korrektne)
vähe vast veel võrrreldes hilisemisega selle osas suuresti mis praegu on teadlikult
(jah see eelmine lause on täiesti tavaline ja korrektne)
22 January 2017 00:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
22 January 2017 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Just risk and try to see there is much more to risk
21 January 2017 20:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
actually it is much more serious, bigger, sophisticated and .. well, ... but how to explain before crossing the line of fiction on eyes that take mind to overdrive and in to blockage of information soon after that by dismissing all..
the Good will protect: Women, God, Nature, and magic plants.
If any part of this is missing, then whole chain will be missing, as they are all vital, and can dependent on global scale, You can not have Global power of God and expect to ignore Nature, or plants that make You understand God and Nature or why Women made You.
the Good will protect: Women, God, Nature, and magic plants.
If any part of this is missing, then whole chain will be missing, as they are all vital, and can dependent on global scale, You can not have Global power of God and expect to ignore Nature, or plants that make You understand God and Nature or why Women made You.
21 January 2017 20:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i mean that the Islam groups is hoped to join wit communist rather then radically true christian and Jewish and true conservative groups.
But these are the few fronts we need to connect with country people, naturalists, true farmers (not ideological ones by the project) if we want to have any chance at all, ... and jes, if communist does not manage to wipe out all true plant shamans (not the ones who make a lot of rituals and noise) then these need to be protected as Royals, (hoida nagu " silmatera " in Est. )... and take away from the system all indigo kids, and special kid organizations .. as battle will not be just on paper, but in many realms and ways.. people who are untouchable will be touched in ways they did not expect (or know to exist)
But these are the few fronts we need to connect with country people, naturalists, true farmers (not ideological ones by the project) if we want to have any chance at all, ... and jes, if communist does not manage to wipe out all true plant shamans (not the ones who make a lot of rituals and noise) then these need to be protected as Royals, (hoida nagu " silmatera " in Est. )... and take away from the system all indigo kids, and special kid organizations .. as battle will not be just on paper, but in many realms and ways.. people who are untouchable will be touched in ways they did not expect (or know to exist)
21 January 2017 20:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and as tension between Muslim and other regions are heated up artificially, ... then Communist hope, that one of the main trouble,( for Communism (also), the islam, various groups will join in with any of the artificial friends and communists, as in strong belief so many of them failed to see what kind of fathers was doing correct belief and what kind of father strongly told is Muslim but opposed with their deed... so anyway.. it is calculated,with so many separations and fake news, real life planed actions "for greater cause" (to separate religions) the majority of new age and old radical Islamist will join with a comrades, in promise to wipe out common enemy.
"democratic liberal Christians" also many might join in... will be let join in for using ... but for everyone will be shown face that is needed, and the weak ones once claws are in , will be eliminated naturally or forgotten about, ... communist does not need to think all step's with realistic plan up front, there is also a lot of hope,that whatever will be, the Party will solve it by then, in most nice way
Revert To Islam
"democratic liberal Christians" also many might join in... will be let join in for using ... but for everyone will be shown face that is needed, and the weak ones once claws are in , will be eliminated naturally or forgotten about, ... communist does not need to think all step's with realistic plan up front, there is also a lot of hope,that whatever will be, the Party will solve it by then, in most nice way
Revert To Islam
21 January 2017 20:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as communist education does not make effort to teach you what is communism, as they the ones who need it not, that you think about it before you agree
And then you WILL think one up front given ways.
And WILL join, agree, bow, surrender, unite with forces that is easy to trace who will be various independent ideological leaders,
it is more easy for communist of any nation and different party to join and agree with any other country comrade, then Muslim brother with another, and hey.. Muslims are best of knowing who is Muslim brother, best of joining fast and organizing.. but they lack.. these who are not directed by Communists, they lack real direction of action plan other then this amount they have been given in scope of what they can know to do
And then you WILL think one up front given ways.
And WILL join, agree, bow, surrender, unite with forces that is easy to trace who will be various independent ideological leaders,
it is more easy for communist of any nation and different party to join and agree with any other country comrade, then Muslim brother with another, and hey.. Muslims are best of knowing who is Muslim brother, best of joining fast and organizing.. but they lack.. these who are not directed by Communists, they lack real direction of action plan other then this amount they have been given in scope of what they can know to do
21 January 2017 20:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And from here, is not even easy to understand for some, are i am actually promoting this superiority of all or am i warning about immediate inevitable invisible inversion of imperialists.
Well, not so invisible if one cares to look and think and understand, REALLy.
But as the fault of the ("democratic right" / "liberal") side that is Allowed to grow (in Delirium) as fruit, as willing labor camp for coming communist Force, to build up their structure as needed (whatever name will it be taking,on so large win would not be surprise to stay on roots or global name changes) then...
...they miss a point, this separated segregated,thinking trained by the education of Roman-Greek that is fundamental of Communism,
boxed up front what is possible and how,
then they miss the main point, everyone who has not "got it" .. anyone who has not understand the Globalism of Communism (elementary, basic) plans who's plans do NOT fit in to year that are in two digits, ..
they not realize, the most of sleeping , hypnotized "individualistic" society... who "takes no interest of politics"
they not realize how well, and how FOR sure, easy, and planned is complete global unification of all the hundreds of parties and organizations that are not "ERA-konnad" (separated frogs, the name literal meaning in Estonia for Political Party)... they not realize that these thousands of organizations have millions of people working in nearly all organizations, up to organizations with clandestine tasks like Scientology and many faulty masonic lodges... what they must do, how they must change their views and why, how to recognize when is the time to come out from closet and for who is the time to change and go hiding, to give running stick over to next person who will be looking any accusations as "no, what, ..i just come here..what u want.. leave me alone you lunatic.. we care less what some missing person was doing who you looking at you paranoiac " + call to put people list who ask to much, still .... and all this happens while greatest diversion happens if needed, so much, so perfectly, as every local lodge and party head will get special meeting instruction internationally, in encrypted video feed if needed, .. but first all party masters will be personally seen by who ever is seen as one of the hundreds, near thousand influential master people, who are known to sent from sure, this Forces that any communist related ideology want to bow, will for sure, and know for sure what is ONLY option if they fail to do so, what nearest next one will see in them ... who can betray" the people" right.
So yea.. all them, unlike all others who was not transformed in to any of the ideology (robotism, isms, movements, pederasty, everything is relative philosophy etc ) that would wipe out fundamental roots of ones self humanity, it is known for sure, that none of them can ever, newer compete with unification and one shaped agreed ideology to regulate all other ideologues , with in years when Turtle attacks,
when is the year of Turtle anyway
Well, not so invisible if one cares to look and think and understand, REALLy.
But as the fault of the ("democratic right" / "liberal") side that is Allowed to grow (in Delirium) as fruit, as willing labor camp for coming communist Force, to build up their structure as needed (whatever name will it be taking,on so large win would not be surprise to stay on roots or global name changes) then...
...they miss a point, this separated segregated,thinking trained by the education of Roman-Greek that is fundamental of Communism,
boxed up front what is possible and how,
then they miss the main point, everyone who has not "got it" .. anyone who has not understand the Globalism of Communism (elementary, basic) plans who's plans do NOT fit in to year that are in two digits, ..
they not realize, the most of sleeping , hypnotized "individualistic" society... who "takes no interest of politics"
they not realize how well, and how FOR sure, easy, and planned is complete global unification of all the hundreds of parties and organizations that are not "ERA-konnad" (separated frogs, the name literal meaning in Estonia for Political Party)... they not realize that these thousands of organizations have millions of people working in nearly all organizations, up to organizations with clandestine tasks like Scientology and many faulty masonic lodges... what they must do, how they must change their views and why, how to recognize when is the time to come out from closet and for who is the time to change and go hiding, to give running stick over to next person who will be looking any accusations as "no, what, ..i just come here..what u want.. leave me alone you lunatic.. we care less what some missing person was doing who you looking at you paranoiac " + call to put people list who ask to much, still .... and all this happens while greatest diversion happens if needed, so much, so perfectly, as every local lodge and party head will get special meeting instruction internationally, in encrypted video feed if needed, .. but first all party masters will be personally seen by who ever is seen as one of the hundreds, near thousand influential master people, who are known to sent from sure, this Forces that any communist related ideology want to bow, will for sure, and know for sure what is ONLY option if they fail to do so, what nearest next one will see in them ... who can betray" the people" right.
So yea.. all them, unlike all others who was not transformed in to any of the ideology (robotism, isms, movements, pederasty, everything is relative philosophy etc ) that would wipe out fundamental roots of ones self humanity, it is known for sure, that none of them can ever, newer compete with unification and one shaped agreed ideology to regulate all other ideologues , with in years when Turtle attacks,
when is the year of Turtle anyway
21 January 2017 20:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
these are just active ones, who are openly identified so.. but lion part is the all youth groups and movements from various democratic parties and social justice youth groups
21 January 2017 19:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//list is to long, easy to get confused as FB does not allow to post something so long
Russia Russia - Communist Party of the Russian Federation, Russian Communist Workers' Party of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Russian United Labour Front, Russian Maoist Party, Party of the Dictatorship of the Proletariat, Alliance of the Revolutionary Socialists, Labour Russia, Regional Party of Communists,[14] Marxist–Leninist Platform, Communist Party of Social Justice, Communists of Russia
San Marino San Marino - United Left
Serbia Serbia - New Communist Party of Yugoslavia, Party of Labour
Slovakia Slovakia - Communist Party of Slovakia, Dawn, Society for Scientific Communism, RESISTANCE – Labour Movement
South Africa South Africa - Communist Party of South Africa (Marxist–Leninist)
South Ossetia South Ossetia (unrecognized country) - Communist Party of South Ossetia, Party of Communists of the Republic of South Ossetia
South Sudan South Sudan - South Sudan Communist Party
Spain Spain - Communist Party of Spain, Communist Party of the People of Spain, Communist Party of Spain (Marxist–Leninist), Communist Party of Spain (Reconstituted), Communist Unification of Spain, Spanish Communist Workers' Party, Revolutionary Communist Party, Marxist–Leninist Front of the Peoples of Spain, Party of the Communists of Catalonia, Living Unified Socialist Party of Catalonia, United and Alternative Left, Communist Party of the Catalan People, Communist Workers Bloc of Andalusia, Galician People's Union, Communist Party of the Menadores, Communist Party of Spain (Maoist),[15] Communist Reconstruction,[16] Communist Initiative,[17] Primeira Linha, Democratic Labour Party, Kimetz,[18] Communist Party of the Basque Homelands, Galician People's Front, Galician Movement for Socialism, Andalucía Comunista,[19] Red Roja,[20] Socialist Internationalist Workers' Party,[21] Revolutionary Workers' Party,[22]
Sudan Sudan - Sudanese Communist Party
Sweden Sweden - Communist Party of Sweden, Communist Party, Communist League
Switzerland Switzerland - Swiss Party of Labour, Party of Labour Basel (founded in 1944), Marxist–Leninist Group Switzerland
Sri Lanka Sri Lanka - People's Liberation Front, Communist Party of Sri Lanka, Ceylon Communist Party (Maoist)
Syria Syria - People's Will Party, Communist Labour Party
Tajikistan Tajikistan - Communist Party of Tajikistan
Togo Togo - Communist Party of Togo
Transnistria Transnistria (unrecognized country) - Pridnestrovie Communist Party, Communist Party of Pridnestrovie
Tunisia Tunisia - Workers' Party, Patriotic Socialist Revolutionary Party WATAD, Progressive People's Party
Turkey Turkey - Communist Party, People's Communist Party of Turkey, Marxist–Leninist Communist Party, Workers' Party, Communist Labour Party of Turkey/Leninist, Revolutionary Communist Party of Turkey, Labour Party, Communist Party of Turkey (Workers Voice), Communist Party of Turkey/Marxist–Leninist, Communist Party of Turkey/Marxist–Leninist (Maoist Party Centre)
Turkmenistan Turkmenistan - Communist Party of Turkmenistan
Ukraine Ukraine - Communist Party of Ukraine, Communist Party of Ukraine (renewed), Marxist–Leninist Party of Ukraine, Communist Party of Workers and Peasants, All-Union Communist Party Bolsheviks - Ukraine,[23] Union of Communists of Ukraine, Association "Struggle"
United Kingdom United Kingdom - Communist Party of Britain, Communist Party of Britain (Marxist–Leninist), Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist–Leninist), Communist Party of Great Britain (Provisional Central Committee), Communist Party of Scotland, New Communist Party of Britain, Revolutionary Communist Party of Britain (Marxist–Leninist), Revolutionary Communist Group, Communist League, Communist Party Alliance[24]
United States United States - American Party of Labor, Communist Party USA, Communist Voice Organization, League of Revolutionaries for a New America, Party for Socialism and Liberation, Party of Communists USA, Progressive Labor Party, Revolutionary Organization of Labor, Revolutionary Communist Party, U.S. Marxist–Leninist Organization, Workers Party, USA, Workers World Party, Socialist Workers Party, Freedom Road Socialist Organization [frso.org], Freedom Road Socialist Organization [freedomroad.org]
Uruguay Uruguay - Revolutionary Communist Party of Uruguay
Uzbekistan Uzbekistan - Communist Party of Uzbekistan
Venezuela Venezuela - Red Flag Party, Marxist–Leninist Communist Party of Venezuela, Admirable Campaign of the People's Power
Post-Soviet states - All-Union Communist Party Bolsheviks, All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks), Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Bolshevik Platform of the KPSS[25]
Russia Russia - Communist Party of the Russian Federation, Russian Communist Workers' Party of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Russian United Labour Front, Russian Maoist Party, Party of the Dictatorship of the Proletariat, Alliance of the Revolutionary Socialists, Labour Russia, Regional Party of Communists,[14] Marxist–Leninist Platform, Communist Party of Social Justice, Communists of Russia
San Marino San Marino - United Left
Serbia Serbia - New Communist Party of Yugoslavia, Party of Labour
Slovakia Slovakia - Communist Party of Slovakia, Dawn, Society for Scientific Communism, RESISTANCE – Labour Movement
South Africa South Africa - Communist Party of South Africa (Marxist–Leninist)
South Ossetia South Ossetia (unrecognized country) - Communist Party of South Ossetia, Party of Communists of the Republic of South Ossetia
South Sudan South Sudan - South Sudan Communist Party
Spain Spain - Communist Party of Spain, Communist Party of the People of Spain, Communist Party of Spain (Marxist–Leninist), Communist Party of Spain (Reconstituted), Communist Unification of Spain, Spanish Communist Workers' Party, Revolutionary Communist Party, Marxist–Leninist Front of the Peoples of Spain, Party of the Communists of Catalonia, Living Unified Socialist Party of Catalonia, United and Alternative Left, Communist Party of the Catalan People, Communist Workers Bloc of Andalusia, Galician People's Union, Communist Party of the Menadores, Communist Party of Spain (Maoist),[15] Communist Reconstruction,[16] Communist Initiative,[17] Primeira Linha, Democratic Labour Party, Kimetz,[18] Communist Party of the Basque Homelands, Galician People's Front, Galician Movement for Socialism, Andalucía Comunista,[19] Red Roja,[20] Socialist Internationalist Workers' Party,[21] Revolutionary Workers' Party,[22]
Sudan Sudan - Sudanese Communist Party
Sweden Sweden - Communist Party of Sweden, Communist Party, Communist League
Switzerland Switzerland - Swiss Party of Labour, Party of Labour Basel (founded in 1944), Marxist–Leninist Group Switzerland
Sri Lanka Sri Lanka - People's Liberation Front, Communist Party of Sri Lanka, Ceylon Communist Party (Maoist)
Syria Syria - People's Will Party, Communist Labour Party
Tajikistan Tajikistan - Communist Party of Tajikistan
Togo Togo - Communist Party of Togo
Transnistria Transnistria (unrecognized country) - Pridnestrovie Communist Party, Communist Party of Pridnestrovie
Tunisia Tunisia - Workers' Party, Patriotic Socialist Revolutionary Party WATAD, Progressive People's Party
Turkey Turkey - Communist Party, People's Communist Party of Turkey, Marxist–Leninist Communist Party, Workers' Party, Communist Labour Party of Turkey/Leninist, Revolutionary Communist Party of Turkey, Labour Party, Communist Party of Turkey (Workers Voice), Communist Party of Turkey/Marxist–Leninist, Communist Party of Turkey/Marxist–Leninist (Maoist Party Centre)
Turkmenistan Turkmenistan - Communist Party of Turkmenistan
Ukraine Ukraine - Communist Party of Ukraine, Communist Party of Ukraine (renewed), Marxist–Leninist Party of Ukraine, Communist Party of Workers and Peasants, All-Union Communist Party Bolsheviks - Ukraine,[23] Union of Communists of Ukraine, Association "Struggle"
United Kingdom United Kingdom - Communist Party of Britain, Communist Party of Britain (Marxist–Leninist), Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist–Leninist), Communist Party of Great Britain (Provisional Central Committee), Communist Party of Scotland, New Communist Party of Britain, Revolutionary Communist Party of Britain (Marxist–Leninist), Revolutionary Communist Group, Communist League, Communist Party Alliance[24]
United States United States - American Party of Labor, Communist Party USA, Communist Voice Organization, League of Revolutionaries for a New America, Party for Socialism and Liberation, Party of Communists USA, Progressive Labor Party, Revolutionary Organization of Labor, Revolutionary Communist Party, U.S. Marxist–Leninist Organization, Workers Party, USA, Workers World Party, Socialist Workers Party, Freedom Road Socialist Organization [frso.org], Freedom Road Socialist Organization [freedomroad.org]
Uruguay Uruguay - Revolutionary Communist Party of Uruguay
Uzbekistan Uzbekistan - Communist Party of Uzbekistan
Venezuela Venezuela - Red Flag Party, Marxist–Leninist Communist Party of Venezuela, Admirable Campaign of the People's Power
Post-Soviet states - All-Union Communist Party Bolsheviks, All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks), Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Bolshevik Platform of the KPSS[25]
http://frso.org/
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Latvia Latvia - Socialist Party of Latvia, Communist Party of Latvia
Lebanon Lebanon - Lebanese Communist Party, Communist Action Organization in Lebanon
Lesotho Lesotho - Communist Party of Lesotho
Lithuania Lithuania - Socialist People's Front, Communist Party of Lithuania
Luxembourg Luxembourg - Communist Party of Luxembourg, Communist Organization of Luxembourg
Republic of Macedonia Macedonia - League of Communists of Macedonia, Union of Tito's Left Forces, Communist Party of Macedonia
Madagascar Madagascar - Congress Party for the Independence of Madagascar
Mali Mali - Malian Party of Labour, African Solidarity for Democracy and Independence
Malta Malta - Communist Party of Malta
Martinique Martinique - Martinican Communist Party, Communist Party for Independence and Socialism
Mexico Mexico - Popular Socialist Party, Popular Socialist Party of Mexico, Communist Party of Mexico, Communist Party of Mexico (Marxist–Leninist), Marxist-Leninist Centre in Mexico, Communists' Party
Moldova Moldova - Party of Communists of the Republic of Moldova, Communist Party of Moldova, People's Resistance Moldova, Communist Reformist Party of Moldova
Montenegro Montenegro - Yugoslav Communist Party of Montenegro, New Communist Party of Montenegro
Morocco Morocco - Democratic Way, Moroccan Marxist–Leninist Proletarian Line
Nagorno-Karabakh Republic Nagorno-Karabakh (unrecognized country) - Communist Party of Artsakh
Namibia Namibia - Communist Party of Namibia
Nepal Nepal - Communist Party of Nepal (Marxist–Leninist), Communist Party of Nepal (United), Nepal Workers Peasants Party, Communist Party of Nepal (Masal), Communist Party of Nepal (Marxist), Communist Party of Nepal - Maoist, Communist Party of Nepal
Netherlands Netherlands - New Communist Party of the Netherlands, United Communist Party, Group of Marxist–Leninists/Red Dawn
New Zealand New Zealand - Socialist Party of Aotearoa, Communist Party of Aotearoa, Communist League
Nicaragua Nicaragua - Communist Party of Nicaragua, Marxist–Leninist Popular Action Movement
Norway Norway - Communist Party of Norway, Red Party, Radical Socialists
State of Palestine Palestine - Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Revolutionary Palestinian Communist Party, Palestinian Communist Party
Panama Panama - People's Party of Panama, Communist Party (Marxist–Leninist) of Panama, November 29 National Liberation Movement
Paraguay Paraguay - Paraguayan Communist Party, Free Fatherland Party, Communist Party of Paraguay (Independent)
Pakistan Pakistan - Communist Workers and Peasants Party, Communist Party of Pakistan, Communist Party of Pakistan (Thaheem)
Peru Peru - Peruvian Communist Party, Communist Party of Peru – Red Fatherland, Communist Party of Peru (Marxist–Leninist), Communist Party of Peru [Shining Path], Proletarian Party of Peru, Marxist–Leninist Party of Peru
Philippines Philippines - Communist Party of the Philippines, Communist Party of the Philippines[PKP-1930], Filipino Workers Party,[12] Marxist–Leninist Party of the Philippines, Revolutionary Workers' Party of the Philippines
Poland Poland - Communist Party of Poland, Polish Party of the Working Class - Initiative Group[13]
Portugal Portugal - Portuguese Communist Party, Portuguese Workers' Communist Party/Reorganized Movement of the Party of the Proletariat, Proletarian Communist Organization (Marxist–Bolshevik) of Portugal, Revolutionary Party of the Proletariat – Bases for Revolution
Puerto Rico Puerto Rico - Puerto Rican Workers' Revolutionary Party, Communist Party of Puerto Rico
Réunion Réunion - Communist Party of Réunion
Romania Romania - Romanian Communist Party, Communist Party (Nepeceriști)
Lebanon Lebanon - Lebanese Communist Party, Communist Action Organization in Lebanon
Lesotho Lesotho - Communist Party of Lesotho
Lithuania Lithuania - Socialist People's Front, Communist Party of Lithuania
Luxembourg Luxembourg - Communist Party of Luxembourg, Communist Organization of Luxembourg
Republic of Macedonia Macedonia - League of Communists of Macedonia, Union of Tito's Left Forces, Communist Party of Macedonia
Madagascar Madagascar - Congress Party for the Independence of Madagascar
Mali Mali - Malian Party of Labour, African Solidarity for Democracy and Independence
Malta Malta - Communist Party of Malta
Martinique Martinique - Martinican Communist Party, Communist Party for Independence and Socialism
Mexico Mexico - Popular Socialist Party, Popular Socialist Party of Mexico, Communist Party of Mexico, Communist Party of Mexico (Marxist–Leninist), Marxist-Leninist Centre in Mexico, Communists' Party
Moldova Moldova - Party of Communists of the Republic of Moldova, Communist Party of Moldova, People's Resistance Moldova, Communist Reformist Party of Moldova
Montenegro Montenegro - Yugoslav Communist Party of Montenegro, New Communist Party of Montenegro
Morocco Morocco - Democratic Way, Moroccan Marxist–Leninist Proletarian Line
Nagorno-Karabakh Republic Nagorno-Karabakh (unrecognized country) - Communist Party of Artsakh
Namibia Namibia - Communist Party of Namibia
Nepal Nepal - Communist Party of Nepal (Marxist–Leninist), Communist Party of Nepal (United), Nepal Workers Peasants Party, Communist Party of Nepal (Masal), Communist Party of Nepal (Marxist), Communist Party of Nepal - Maoist, Communist Party of Nepal
Netherlands Netherlands - New Communist Party of the Netherlands, United Communist Party, Group of Marxist–Leninists/Red Dawn
New Zealand New Zealand - Socialist Party of Aotearoa, Communist Party of Aotearoa, Communist League
Nicaragua Nicaragua - Communist Party of Nicaragua, Marxist–Leninist Popular Action Movement
Norway Norway - Communist Party of Norway, Red Party, Radical Socialists
State of Palestine Palestine - Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Revolutionary Palestinian Communist Party, Palestinian Communist Party
Panama Panama - People's Party of Panama, Communist Party (Marxist–Leninist) of Panama, November 29 National Liberation Movement
Paraguay Paraguay - Paraguayan Communist Party, Free Fatherland Party, Communist Party of Paraguay (Independent)
Pakistan Pakistan - Communist Workers and Peasants Party, Communist Party of Pakistan, Communist Party of Pakistan (Thaheem)
Peru Peru - Peruvian Communist Party, Communist Party of Peru – Red Fatherland, Communist Party of Peru (Marxist–Leninist), Communist Party of Peru [Shining Path], Proletarian Party of Peru, Marxist–Leninist Party of Peru
Philippines Philippines - Communist Party of the Philippines, Communist Party of the Philippines[PKP-1930], Filipino Workers Party,[12] Marxist–Leninist Party of the Philippines, Revolutionary Workers' Party of the Philippines
Poland Poland - Communist Party of Poland, Polish Party of the Working Class - Initiative Group[13]
Portugal Portugal - Portuguese Communist Party, Portuguese Workers' Communist Party/Reorganized Movement of the Party of the Proletariat, Proletarian Communist Organization (Marxist–Bolshevik) of Portugal, Revolutionary Party of the Proletariat – Bases for Revolution
Puerto Rico Puerto Rico - Puerto Rican Workers' Revolutionary Party, Communist Party of Puerto Rico
Réunion Réunion - Communist Party of Réunion
Romania Romania - Romanian Communist Party, Communist Party (Nepeceriști)
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Germany Germany - German Communist Party, Marxist–Leninist Party of Germany, Communist Party of Germany
Greece Greece - Communist Party of Greece, Marxist–Leninist Communist Party of Greece, Communist Party of Greece (Marxist–Leninist), Organization for the Reconstruction of the Communist Party of Greece, Movement for the Reorganization of the Communist Party of Greece 1918–55, Communist Renewal, Left Anti-capitalist Group, Left Group, Left Recomposition, New Left Current, Revolutionary Communist Movement of Greece
Guadeloupe Guadeloupe - Guadeloupe Communist Party
Guatemala Guatemala - Guatemalan Party of Labour
Guyana - People's Progressive Party
Haiti Haiti - New Communist Party of Haiti (Marxist–Leninist)[6]
Honduras Honduras - Communist Party of Honduras
Hungary Hungary - Hungarian Workers' Party, Workers' Party of Hungary 2006, Hungarian Socialist Workers' Party
India India - Communist Party of India (Marxist), Communist Party of India, Communist Party of India (Maoist), Revolutionary Socialist Party, Revolutionary Socialist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist), Socialist Unity Centre of India (Communist), Radical Socialist, Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) New Democracy, Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Liberation, Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Naxalbari, Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Janashakti, Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) Red Star, Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) [Kanu Sanyal], Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) [Mahadev Mukherjee], Provisional Central Committee, Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist), Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Red Flag, Communist Revolt Party of India, Communist Marxist Party, Communist Party of Bharat, Communist Party of Revolutionary Marxists, Communist Party of United States of India, Communist Revolutionary League of India, Communist Revolutionary Party, Workers Party of India, Peasants and Workers Party of India, Workers Party, Revolutionary Communist Party, Red Flag Party, Red Flag Party (Leninist), Marxist Co-ordination Committee, Marxist Communist Party of India (United), Marxist Platform, Marxist Periarist Communist Party, Marxist–Leninist Committee, Odisha Communist Party, Peoples Revolutionary Party of India, Revolutionary Communist Centre of India (Marxist–Leninist–Maoist), Revolutionary Communist Party of India, Truthseeker Communist Party, Telangana Communist Party, Forward Block, United Communist Party of India, Unity Centre of Communist Revolutionaries of India (Marxist–Leninist), Maoist Communist Party of Manipur, Communist Party of Marxist New
Indonesia Indonesia - SEKSI, Partai Manfaat Revolusioner,[7] Partai Nusantara, PKI-M
Iran Iran - Komalah Tudeh Party of Iran, Communist Party of Iran, Communist Party of Iran (Marxist–Leninist–Maoist), Labour Party of Iran, Worker-communist Party of Iran, Worker-communist Party of Iran – Hekmatist, Worker-communism Unity Party of Iran, Workers Left Unity – Iran, Fedaian Organisation (Minority), Organization of Iranian People's Fedai Guerrillas, Organization of Iranian People's Fedai Guerrillas (In Search of Identity Program), Iranian People's Fedai Guerrillas, Toilers' Party of Iran
Iraq Iraq - Iraqi Communist Party, Worker-communist Party of Iraq, Left Worker-communist Party of Iraq, Popular Unity Party, Iraqi Revolutionary Marxist–Leninists Regroupment,[8] Kurdistan Communist Party – Iraq, Worker-communist Party of Kurdistan
Republic of Ireland Ireland - Workers' Party of Ireland, Communist Party of Ireland, Irish Republican Socialist Party,
Israel Israel - Israeli Communist Party, Democratic Front for Peace and Equality, Israeli Communist Forum[9]
Italy Italy - Communist Refoundation Party, Party of Italian Communists, Italian Marxist–Leninist Party, Communist Party, Marxist–Leninist Italian Communist Party, Movement for Peace and Socialism, Movement for the Confederation of the Communists, Unified Communist Party of Italy
Japan Japan - Japanese Communist Party, Japanese Communist Party (Action Faction), Japanese Communist Party (Left Faction), Japan Labor Party,[10] Workers' Communist Party In Japan,[11] Workers Socialist League, Revolutionary Communist League, National Committee, Japan Revolutionary Communist League (Revolutionary Marxist Faction)
Jordan Jordan - Jordanian Communist Party, Jordanian Democratic People's Party
Kazakhstan Kazakhstan - Communist People's Party of Kazakhstan, Communist Party of Kazakhstan
Kenya Kenya - Social Democratic Party of Kenya
South Korea - Communist Party of the Republic of Korea, Party of the Worker of the Republic of Korea
Kyrgyzstan Kyrgyzstan - Party of Communists of Kyrgyzstan, Communist Party of Kyrgyzstan
Greece Greece - Communist Party of Greece, Marxist–Leninist Communist Party of Greece, Communist Party of Greece (Marxist–Leninist), Organization for the Reconstruction of the Communist Party of Greece, Movement for the Reorganization of the Communist Party of Greece 1918–55, Communist Renewal, Left Anti-capitalist Group, Left Group, Left Recomposition, New Left Current, Revolutionary Communist Movement of Greece
Guadeloupe Guadeloupe - Guadeloupe Communist Party
Guatemala Guatemala - Guatemalan Party of Labour
Guyana - People's Progressive Party
Haiti Haiti - New Communist Party of Haiti (Marxist–Leninist)[6]
Honduras Honduras - Communist Party of Honduras
Hungary Hungary - Hungarian Workers' Party, Workers' Party of Hungary 2006, Hungarian Socialist Workers' Party
India India - Communist Party of India (Marxist), Communist Party of India, Communist Party of India (Maoist), Revolutionary Socialist Party, Revolutionary Socialist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist), Socialist Unity Centre of India (Communist), Radical Socialist, Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) New Democracy, Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Liberation, Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Naxalbari, Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Janashakti, Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) Red Star, Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) [Kanu Sanyal], Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) [Mahadev Mukherjee], Provisional Central Committee, Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist), Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Red Flag, Communist Revolt Party of India, Communist Marxist Party, Communist Party of Bharat, Communist Party of Revolutionary Marxists, Communist Party of United States of India, Communist Revolutionary League of India, Communist Revolutionary Party, Workers Party of India, Peasants and Workers Party of India, Workers Party, Revolutionary Communist Party, Red Flag Party, Red Flag Party (Leninist), Marxist Co-ordination Committee, Marxist Communist Party of India (United), Marxist Platform, Marxist Periarist Communist Party, Marxist–Leninist Committee, Odisha Communist Party, Peoples Revolutionary Party of India, Revolutionary Communist Centre of India (Marxist–Leninist–Maoist), Revolutionary Communist Party of India, Truthseeker Communist Party, Telangana Communist Party, Forward Block, United Communist Party of India, Unity Centre of Communist Revolutionaries of India (Marxist–Leninist), Maoist Communist Party of Manipur, Communist Party of Marxist New
Indonesia Indonesia - SEKSI, Partai Manfaat Revolusioner,[7] Partai Nusantara, PKI-M
Iran Iran - Komalah Tudeh Party of Iran, Communist Party of Iran, Communist Party of Iran (Marxist–Leninist–Maoist), Labour Party of Iran, Worker-communist Party of Iran, Worker-communist Party of Iran – Hekmatist, Worker-communism Unity Party of Iran, Workers Left Unity – Iran, Fedaian Organisation (Minority), Organization of Iranian People's Fedai Guerrillas, Organization of Iranian People's Fedai Guerrillas (In Search of Identity Program), Iranian People's Fedai Guerrillas, Toilers' Party of Iran
Iraq Iraq - Iraqi Communist Party, Worker-communist Party of Iraq, Left Worker-communist Party of Iraq, Popular Unity Party, Iraqi Revolutionary Marxist–Leninists Regroupment,[8] Kurdistan Communist Party – Iraq, Worker-communist Party of Kurdistan
Republic of Ireland Ireland - Workers' Party of Ireland, Communist Party of Ireland, Irish Republican Socialist Party,
Israel Israel - Israeli Communist Party, Democratic Front for Peace and Equality, Israeli Communist Forum[9]
Italy Italy - Communist Refoundation Party, Party of Italian Communists, Italian Marxist–Leninist Party, Communist Party, Marxist–Leninist Italian Communist Party, Movement for Peace and Socialism, Movement for the Confederation of the Communists, Unified Communist Party of Italy
Japan Japan - Japanese Communist Party, Japanese Communist Party (Action Faction), Japanese Communist Party (Left Faction), Japan Labor Party,[10] Workers' Communist Party In Japan,[11] Workers Socialist League, Revolutionary Communist League, National Committee, Japan Revolutionary Communist League (Revolutionary Marxist Faction)
Jordan Jordan - Jordanian Communist Party, Jordanian Democratic People's Party
Kazakhstan Kazakhstan - Communist People's Party of Kazakhstan, Communist Party of Kazakhstan
Kenya Kenya - Social Democratic Party of Kenya
South Korea - Communist Party of the Republic of Korea, Party of the Worker of the Republic of Korea
Kyrgyzstan Kyrgyzstan - Party of Communists of Kyrgyzstan, Communist Party of Kyrgyzstan
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Modern (non-ruling) (jet!)
Abkhazia Abkhazia (unrecognized country) - Communist Party of Abkhazia
Afghanistan Afghanistan - Communist (Maoist) Party of Afghanistan, Afghanistan Liberation Organization, Marxist–Leninist Organization of Afghanistan
Albania Albania - Communist Party of Albania, Communist Party of Albania 8 November
Algeria Algeria - Algerian Party for Democracy and Socialism
Angola Angola - Party of the Angolan Communist Community
Argentina Argentina - Communist Party of Argentina, Communist Party of Argentina (Extraordinary Congress), Revolutionary Communist Party of Argentina, Liberation Party
Armenia Armenia - Armenian Communist Party, United Communist Party of Armenia, Progressive United Communist Party of Armenia
Australia Australia - Communist Party of Australia, Communist Party of Australia (Marxist–Leninist)
Austria Austria - Communist Party of Austria, Party of Labour of Austria
Azerbaijan Azerbaijan - Azerbaijan Communist Party, Communist Party of Azerbaijan[1996], Communist Party of Azerbaijan[2011], United Communist Party of Azerbaijan
Bahrain Bahrain - National Liberation Front – Bahrain, Progressive Democratic Tribune
Bangladesh Bangladesh - Communist Party of Bangladesh, Socialist Party of Bangladesh, Revolutionary Workers Party of Bangladesh, Communist Party of Bangladesh (Marxist–Leninist)[Dutta], Communist Party of Bangladesh (Marxist–Leninist)[Umar], Proletarian Party of East Bengal, Proletarian Party of East Bengal(Maoist Bolshevik Reorganisation Movement), Workers Peasants Socialist Party, United Communist League of Bangladesh
Belarus Belarus - Communist Party of Belarus, Group of Revolutionary Communists ‘Red Wedge’, Communist Party of the Workers of Belarus, Republican Committee of the Communist Party of Belarus
Belgium Belgium - Workers' Party of Belgium, Communist Party
Benin Benin - Communist Party of Benin, Marxist–Leninist Communist Party of Benin
Bhutan Bhutan - Bhutan Communist Party (Marxist–Leninist–Maoist)
Bolivia Bolivia - Communist Party of Bolivia, People's Revolutionary Front (Marxist−Leninist−Maoist), Communist Party (Marxist–Leninist) of Bolivia, Communist Party (Marxist–Leninist–Maoist) of Bolivia
Bosnia and Herzegovina Bosnia and Herzegovina - Workers' Communist Party of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Communist Party
Botswana Botswana - Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin Movement
Brazil Brazil - Communist Party of Brazil, Brazilian Communist Party, Revolutionary Communist Party, Free Homeland Party, Marxist–Leninist Communist Party[2]
Bulgaria Bulgaria - Communist Party of Bulgaria, Bulgarian Communist Party – Marxists, Union of Communists in Bulgaria, Party of the Bulgarian Communists, Bulgarian Communist Party, Bulgarian Workers' Party (Communist), Resistance Movement ‘23rd September’ Bulgaria
Burkina Faso Burkina Faso - Party for Democracy and Socialism/Metba, Voltaic Revolutionary Communist Party
Myanmar Burma - Communist Party of Burma
Canada Canada - Communist Party of Canada, Communist Party of Quebec, Communist Party of Canada (Marxist–Leninist), Communist League, Revolutionary Communist Party of Canada
Chad Chad - Chadian Action for Unity and Socialism
Chile Chile - Chilean Communist Party (Proletarian Action), Revolutionary Left Movement
China China - Maoist Communist Party of China
Colombia Colombia - Colombian Communist Party, Clandestine Colombian Communist Party, Communist Party of Colombia (Marxist–Leninist), Colombian Communist Party – Maoist, Revolutionary Communist Group of Colombia, Revolutionary Independent Labour Movement, Labour Party of Colombia,[3] Revolutionary Party of the Workers of Colombia
Costa Rica Costa Rica - Popular Vanguard Party, Costa Rican People's Party
Republic of the Congo Congo - Revolutionary Organisation of Congo
Ivory Coast Côte d'Ivoire - Revolutionary Communist Party of Côte d'Ivoire, Proletarian Communist Party of Côte d'Ivoire
Croatia Croatia - Socialist Labour Party of Croatia, Workers' Front
Cyprus Cyprus - Progressive Party of Working People, Committee for a Radical Left Rally
Czech Republic Czech Republic - Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia
Denmark Denmark - Communist Party of Denmark, Communist Party, Workers' Communist Party, Communist Party in Denmark
Dominican Republic Dominican Republic - Dominican Workers' Party, Communist Party of Labour, International Communist Party, Communist Party of the Dominican Republic,[4] Dominican Workers' Party (Marxist–Leninist),[5] Force of the Revolution, Communist Party (Marxist–Leninist)
Ecuador Ecuador - Communist Party of Ecuador, Marxist–Leninist Communist Party of Ecuador, Workers' Party of Ecuador, Democratic People's Movement, Communist Party of Ecuador – Red Sun
Egypt Egypt - Egyptian Communist Party
El Salvador El Salvador - Communist Party of El Salvador
Estonia Estonia - Communist Party of Estonia
Finland Finland - Communist Party of Finland, Communist Workers' Party – For Peace and Socialism, League of Communists
France France - French Communist Party, Pole of Communist Rebirth in France, Workers' Communist Party of France, Marxist–Leninist Communist Organization – Proletarian Way, Union of Revolutionary Communists of France
Georgia (country) Georgia - Communist Party of Georgia, United Communist Party of Georgia, New Communist Party of Georgia
Abkhazia Abkhazia (unrecognized country) - Communist Party of Abkhazia
Afghanistan Afghanistan - Communist (Maoist) Party of Afghanistan, Afghanistan Liberation Organization, Marxist–Leninist Organization of Afghanistan
Albania Albania - Communist Party of Albania, Communist Party of Albania 8 November
Algeria Algeria - Algerian Party for Democracy and Socialism
Angola Angola - Party of the Angolan Communist Community
Argentina Argentina - Communist Party of Argentina, Communist Party of Argentina (Extraordinary Congress), Revolutionary Communist Party of Argentina, Liberation Party
Armenia Armenia - Armenian Communist Party, United Communist Party of Armenia, Progressive United Communist Party of Armenia
Australia Australia - Communist Party of Australia, Communist Party of Australia (Marxist–Leninist)
Austria Austria - Communist Party of Austria, Party of Labour of Austria
Azerbaijan Azerbaijan - Azerbaijan Communist Party, Communist Party of Azerbaijan[1996], Communist Party of Azerbaijan[2011], United Communist Party of Azerbaijan
Bahrain Bahrain - National Liberation Front – Bahrain, Progressive Democratic Tribune
Bangladesh Bangladesh - Communist Party of Bangladesh, Socialist Party of Bangladesh, Revolutionary Workers Party of Bangladesh, Communist Party of Bangladesh (Marxist–Leninist)[Dutta], Communist Party of Bangladesh (Marxist–Leninist)[Umar], Proletarian Party of East Bengal, Proletarian Party of East Bengal(Maoist Bolshevik Reorganisation Movement), Workers Peasants Socialist Party, United Communist League of Bangladesh
Belarus Belarus - Communist Party of Belarus, Group of Revolutionary Communists ‘Red Wedge’, Communist Party of the Workers of Belarus, Republican Committee of the Communist Party of Belarus
Belgium Belgium - Workers' Party of Belgium, Communist Party
Benin Benin - Communist Party of Benin, Marxist–Leninist Communist Party of Benin
Bhutan Bhutan - Bhutan Communist Party (Marxist–Leninist–Maoist)
Bolivia Bolivia - Communist Party of Bolivia, People's Revolutionary Front (Marxist−Leninist−Maoist), Communist Party (Marxist–Leninist) of Bolivia, Communist Party (Marxist–Leninist–Maoist) of Bolivia
Bosnia and Herzegovina Bosnia and Herzegovina - Workers' Communist Party of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Communist Party
Botswana Botswana - Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin Movement
Brazil Brazil - Communist Party of Brazil, Brazilian Communist Party, Revolutionary Communist Party, Free Homeland Party, Marxist–Leninist Communist Party[2]
Bulgaria Bulgaria - Communist Party of Bulgaria, Bulgarian Communist Party – Marxists, Union of Communists in Bulgaria, Party of the Bulgarian Communists, Bulgarian Communist Party, Bulgarian Workers' Party (Communist), Resistance Movement ‘23rd September’ Bulgaria
Burkina Faso Burkina Faso - Party for Democracy and Socialism/Metba, Voltaic Revolutionary Communist Party
Myanmar Burma - Communist Party of Burma
Canada Canada - Communist Party of Canada, Communist Party of Quebec, Communist Party of Canada (Marxist–Leninist), Communist League, Revolutionary Communist Party of Canada
Chad Chad - Chadian Action for Unity and Socialism
Chile Chile - Chilean Communist Party (Proletarian Action), Revolutionary Left Movement
China China - Maoist Communist Party of China
Colombia Colombia - Colombian Communist Party, Clandestine Colombian Communist Party, Communist Party of Colombia (Marxist–Leninist), Colombian Communist Party – Maoist, Revolutionary Communist Group of Colombia, Revolutionary Independent Labour Movement, Labour Party of Colombia,[3] Revolutionary Party of the Workers of Colombia
Costa Rica Costa Rica - Popular Vanguard Party, Costa Rican People's Party
Republic of the Congo Congo - Revolutionary Organisation of Congo
Ivory Coast Côte d'Ivoire - Revolutionary Communist Party of Côte d'Ivoire, Proletarian Communist Party of Côte d'Ivoire
Croatia Croatia - Socialist Labour Party of Croatia, Workers' Front
Cyprus Cyprus - Progressive Party of Working People, Committee for a Radical Left Rally
Czech Republic Czech Republic - Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia
Denmark Denmark - Communist Party of Denmark, Communist Party, Workers' Communist Party, Communist Party in Denmark
Dominican Republic Dominican Republic - Dominican Workers' Party, Communist Party of Labour, International Communist Party, Communist Party of the Dominican Republic,[4] Dominican Workers' Party (Marxist–Leninist),[5] Force of the Revolution, Communist Party (Marxist–Leninist)
Ecuador Ecuador - Communist Party of Ecuador, Marxist–Leninist Communist Party of Ecuador, Workers' Party of Ecuador, Democratic People's Movement, Communist Party of Ecuador – Red Sun
Egypt Egypt - Egyptian Communist Party
El Salvador El Salvador - Communist Party of El Salvador
Estonia Estonia - Communist Party of Estonia
Finland Finland - Communist Party of Finland, Communist Workers' Party – For Peace and Socialism, League of Communists
France France - French Communist Party, Pole of Communist Rebirth in France, Workers' Communist Party of France, Marxist–Leninist Communist Organization – Proletarian Way, Union of Revolutionary Communists of France
Georgia (country) Georgia - Communist Party of Georgia, United Communist Party of Georgia, New Communist Party of Georgia
21 January 2017 19:47
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Russia, Regional Party of Communists,[14] Marxist–Leninist Platform, Communist Party of Social Justice, Communists of Russia
San Marino San Marino - United Left
Serbia Serbia - New Communist Party of Yugoslavia, Party of Labour
Slovakia Slovakia - Communist Party of Slovakia, Dawn, Society for Scientific Communism, RESISTANCE – Labour Movement
South Africa South Africa - Communist Party of South Africa (Marxist–Leninist)
South Ossetia South Ossetia (unrecognized country) - Communist Party of South Ossetia, Party of Communists of the Republic of South Ossetia
South Sudan South Sudan - South Sudan Communist Party
Spain Spain - Communist Party of Spain, Communist Party of the People of Spain, Communist Party of Spain (Marxist–Leninist), Communist Party of Spain (Reconstituted), Communist Unification of Spain, Spanish Communist Workers' Party, Revolutionary Communist Party, Marxist–Leninist Front of the Peoples of Spain, Party of the Communists of Catalonia, Living Unified Socialist Party of Catalonia, United and Alternative Left, Communist Party of the Catalan People, Communist Workers Bloc of Andalusia, Galician People's Union, Communist Party of the Menadores, Communist Party of Spain (Maoist),[15] Communist Reconstruction,[16] Communist Initiative,[17] Primeira Linha, Democratic Labour Party, Kimetz,[18] Communist Party of the Basque Homelands, Galician People's Front, Galician Movement for Socialism, Andalucía Comunista,[19] Red Roja,[20] Socialist Internationalist Workers' Party,[21] Revolutionary Workers' Party,[22]
Sudan Sudan - Sudanese Communist Party
Sweden Sweden - Communist Party of Sweden, Communist Party, Communist League
Switzerland Switzerland - Swiss Party of Labour, Party of Labour Basel (founded in 1944), Marxist–Leninist Group Switzerland
Sri Lanka Sri Lanka - People's Liberation Front, Communist Party of Sri Lanka, Ceylon Communist Party (Maoist)
Syria Syria - People's Will Party, Communist Labour Party
Tajikistan Tajikistan - Communist Party of Tajikistan
Togo Togo - Communist Party of Togo
Transnistria Transnistria (unrecognized country) - Pridnestrovie Communist Party, Communist Party of Pridnestrovie
Tunisia Tunisia - Workers' Party, Patriotic Socialist Revolutionary Party WATAD, Progressive People's Party
Turkey Turkey - Communist Party, People's Communist Party of Turkey, Marxist–Leninist Communist Party, Workers' Party, Communist Labour Party of Turkey/Leninist, Revolutionary Communist Party of Turkey, Labour Party, Communist Party of Turkey (Workers Voice), Communist Party of Turkey/Marxist–Leninist, Communist Party of Turkey/Marxist–Leninist (Maoist Party Centre)
Turkmenistan Turkmenistan - Communist Party of Turkmenistan
Ukraine Ukraine - Communist Party of Ukraine, Communist Party of Ukraine (renewed), Marxist–Leninist Party of Ukraine, Communist Party of Workers and Peasants, All-Union Communist Party Bolsheviks - Ukraine,[23] Union of Communists of Ukraine, Association "Struggle"
United Kingdom United Kingdom - Communist Party of Britain, Communist Party of Britain (Marxist–Leninist), Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist–Leninist), Communist Party of Great Britain (Provisional Central Committee), Communist Party of Scotland, New Communist Party of Britain, Revolutionary Communist Party of Britain (Marxist–Leninist), Revolutionary Communist Group, Communist League, Communist Party Alliance[24]
United States United States - American Party of Labor, Communist Party USA, Communist Voice Organization, League of Revolutionaries for a New America, Party for Socialism and Liberation, Party of Communists USA, Progressive Labor Party, Revolutionary Organization of Labor, Revolutionary Communist Party, U.S. Marxist–Leninist Organization, Workers Party, USA, Workers World Party, Socialist Workers Party, Freedom Road Socialist Organization [frso.org], Freedom Road Socialist Organization [freedomroad.org]
Uruguay Uruguay - Revolutionary Communist Party of Uruguay
Uzbekistan Uzbekistan - Communist Party of Uzbekistan
Venezuela Venezuela - Red Flag Party, Marxist–Leninist Communist Party of Venezuela, Admirable Campaign of the People's Power
Post-Soviet states - All-Union Communist Party Bolsheviks, All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks), Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Bolshevik Platform of the KPSS[25]
San Marino San Marino - United Left
Serbia Serbia - New Communist Party of Yugoslavia, Party of Labour
Slovakia Slovakia - Communist Party of Slovakia, Dawn, Society for Scientific Communism, RESISTANCE – Labour Movement
South Africa South Africa - Communist Party of South Africa (Marxist–Leninist)
South Ossetia South Ossetia (unrecognized country) - Communist Party of South Ossetia, Party of Communists of the Republic of South Ossetia
South Sudan South Sudan - South Sudan Communist Party
Spain Spain - Communist Party of Spain, Communist Party of the People of Spain, Communist Party of Spain (Marxist–Leninist), Communist Party of Spain (Reconstituted), Communist Unification of Spain, Spanish Communist Workers' Party, Revolutionary Communist Party, Marxist–Leninist Front of the Peoples of Spain, Party of the Communists of Catalonia, Living Unified Socialist Party of Catalonia, United and Alternative Left, Communist Party of the Catalan People, Communist Workers Bloc of Andalusia, Galician People's Union, Communist Party of the Menadores, Communist Party of Spain (Maoist),[15] Communist Reconstruction,[16] Communist Initiative,[17] Primeira Linha, Democratic Labour Party, Kimetz,[18] Communist Party of the Basque Homelands, Galician People's Front, Galician Movement for Socialism, Andalucía Comunista,[19] Red Roja,[20] Socialist Internationalist Workers' Party,[21] Revolutionary Workers' Party,[22]
Sudan Sudan - Sudanese Communist Party
Sweden Sweden - Communist Party of Sweden, Communist Party, Communist League
Switzerland Switzerland - Swiss Party of Labour, Party of Labour Basel (founded in 1944), Marxist–Leninist Group Switzerland
Sri Lanka Sri Lanka - People's Liberation Front, Communist Party of Sri Lanka, Ceylon Communist Party (Maoist)
Syria Syria - People's Will Party, Communist Labour Party
Tajikistan Tajikistan - Communist Party of Tajikistan
Togo Togo - Communist Party of Togo
Transnistria Transnistria (unrecognized country) - Pridnestrovie Communist Party, Communist Party of Pridnestrovie
Tunisia Tunisia - Workers' Party, Patriotic Socialist Revolutionary Party WATAD, Progressive People's Party
Turkey Turkey - Communist Party, People's Communist Party of Turkey, Marxist–Leninist Communist Party, Workers' Party, Communist Labour Party of Turkey/Leninist, Revolutionary Communist Party of Turkey, Labour Party, Communist Party of Turkey (Workers Voice), Communist Party of Turkey/Marxist–Leninist, Communist Party of Turkey/Marxist–Leninist (Maoist Party Centre)
Turkmenistan Turkmenistan - Communist Party of Turkmenistan
Ukraine Ukraine - Communist Party of Ukraine, Communist Party of Ukraine (renewed), Marxist–Leninist Party of Ukraine, Communist Party of Workers and Peasants, All-Union Communist Party Bolsheviks - Ukraine,[23] Union of Communists of Ukraine, Association "Struggle"
United Kingdom United Kingdom - Communist Party of Britain, Communist Party of Britain (Marxist–Leninist), Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist–Leninist), Communist Party of Great Britain (Provisional Central Committee), Communist Party of Scotland, New Communist Party of Britain, Revolutionary Communist Party of Britain (Marxist–Leninist), Revolutionary Communist Group, Communist League, Communist Party Alliance[24]
United States United States - American Party of Labor, Communist Party USA, Communist Voice Organization, League of Revolutionaries for a New America, Party for Socialism and Liberation, Party of Communists USA, Progressive Labor Party, Revolutionary Organization of Labor, Revolutionary Communist Party, U.S. Marxist–Leninist Organization, Workers Party, USA, Workers World Party, Socialist Workers Party, Freedom Road Socialist Organization [frso.org], Freedom Road Socialist Organization [freedomroad.org]
Uruguay Uruguay - Revolutionary Communist Party of Uruguay
Uzbekistan Uzbekistan - Communist Party of Uzbekistan
Venezuela Venezuela - Red Flag Party, Marxist–Leninist Communist Party of Venezuela, Admirable Campaign of the People's Power
Post-Soviet states - All-Union Communist Party Bolsheviks, All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks), Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Bolshevik Platform of the KPSS[25]
http://frso.org/
21 January 2017 19:46
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// Take look at this list:
The formation of communist parties in various countries was first initiated by the formation of the communist Third International by the Russian Bolsheviks. Undoubtedly the most important of these parties were those of the Soviet Union and the People's Republic of China: the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the Communist Party of China, respectively.
Some communist parties have names such as Workers' Party, Socialist Party, Progressive Party, etc. Most, but not all, of the parties on this list are those that were aligned with either Moscow, Beijing or Tirana during the Cold War and their offshoots. Groups currently and exclusively participating in the Trotskyist or the Left communist tradition are not included in the listing, see List of Trotskyist organisations by country and List of Left communist organisations by country.
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Officially ruling parties in communist countries
In the following countries, the communist parties either lead the ruling coalition or hold monopoly on state power, as defined by their respective country's constitutions.
China - Communist Party of China leads the United Front
Cuba - Communist Party of Cuba
Laos - Lao People's Revolutionary Party leads the Lao Front for National Construction
Vietnam - Communist Party of Vietnam leads the Vietnamese Fatherland Front
Communist parties as ruling parties or part of ruling coalition in multi-party states
Bangladesh - Workers Party of Bangladesh participates in the ruling coalition
Chile - Communist Party of Chile participates in the ruling coalition
Ecuador - Communist Party of Ecuador participates in the ruling coalition led by PAIS Alliance
Greece - Movement for the United in Action Left participates in the ruling Coalition of the Radical Left
Nepal - Communist Party of Nepal (Unified Marxist–Leninist) leads the ruling coalition with participation of Unified Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist)
Palestine - Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine participates in the ruling coalition
Portugal - Portuguese Communist Party supports the XXI Constitutional Government (2015-) led by the Socialist Party.
Serbia - Communist Party (Serbia) participates in the SNS-SPS coalition government
South Africa - South African Communist Party participates in the ruling coalition
Syria - Syrian Communist Party and Syrian Communist Party (Unified) participate in the ruling coalition
Uruguay - Communist Party of Uruguay and People's Victory Party participate in the ruling coalition
Venezuela - Communist Party of Venezuela and Tupamaro participate in the ruling coalition
Formerly ruling
Afghanistan (1978–1992)- People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan abandoned Marxism–Leninism for social democracy and is now known as Watan Party of Afghanistan
Albania (1946–1992) - Party of Labour of Albania (known from 1941 to 1948 as the Communist Party of Albania) abandoned Marxism-Leninism for social democracy and is now known as Socialist Party of Albania
Angola (1975–1992) - Popular Movement for the Liberation of Angola – Labour Party (known from 1956 to 1977 as Popular Movement for the Liberation of Angola) abandoned Marxism–Leninism for social democracy
Benin (1975–1990) - People's Revolutionary Party of Benin abandoned Marxism–Leninism for social democracy and is now known as Union of Forces of Progress
Brazil (2003-2016) - Communist Party of Brazil, in coalition governments with Workers' Party
Bulgaria (1946–1990) - Bulgarian Communist Party (known from 1938-1948 as Bulgarian Workers' Party (Communists)) abandoned Marxism-Leninism and is now known as Bulgarian Socialist Party
Byelorussia (1920-1991) - Communist Party of Byelorussia
Cambodia (1975-1979, 1979–1991) - Communist Party of Kampuchea, broke up into the exile, non-ruling and now defunct Party of Democratic Kampuchea and ruling Kampuchean People's Revolutionary Party which abandoned Marxism-Leninism for social democracy and is now known as Cambodian People's Party
Congo-Brazzaville (1969–1992) - Congolese Party of Labour abandoned Marxism–Leninism for social democracy
Cyprus (2008–2013) - Progressive Party of Working People
Czechoslovakia (1948–1990) - Communist Party of Czechoslovakia broke up into the non-ruling Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia and the Communist Party of Slovakia
Ethiopia (1974–1987), (1987-1991) - Commission for Organizing the Party of the Working People of Ethiopia, Workers' Party of Ethiopia
East Germany (1949–1989) - Socialist Unity Party of Germany became Party of Democratic Socialism and is now a part of The Left
France (1944-1947, 1981-1984, 1997-2002) - French Communist Party, in coalition governments with French Socialist Party
Grenada (1979–1983) - New Jewel Movement
Guyana (1992–2015) - People's Progressive Party
Hungary (1919, 1949-1989) - Hungarian Communist Party, Hungarian Working People's Party, Hungarian Socialist Workers' Party abandoned Marxism-Leninism for social democracy and is now known as Hungarian Socialist Party
Moldova (2001–2009) - Party of Communists of the Republic of Moldova
Mongolia (1924–1992) - Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party (known from 1921 to 1924 and today too as the Mongolian People's Party) abandoned Marxism–Leninism for social democracy
Mozambique (1975–1990) - Frelimo Party (known from 1962 to 1977 as the Mozambique Liberation Front) abandoned Marxism–Leninism for social democracy
Nepal (1994–1995, 2008–2013) - Communist Party of Nepal (Unified Marxist-Leninist), Unified Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) (known from 1994 to 2009 as the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist))
Poland (1944–1989) - Polish Workers' Party, Polish United Workers' Party abandoned Marxism-Leninism for social democracy and is now known as Democratic Left Alliance
Romania (1947–1989) - Romanian Communist Party dissolved after the Romanian Revolution (known from 1948 to 1965 as Romanian Workers' Party)
San Marino (1945–1957) - Sammarinese Communist Party, in coalition government with Sammarinese Socialist Party
Somalia (1969–1991) - Supreme Revolutionary Council (1969-1976), Somali Revolutionary Socialist Party (1976-1991)
Soviet Union (1922–1991) - Communist Party of the Soviet Union (known from 1918 to 1925 as the Russian Communist Party (Bolsheviks) and from 1925 to 1952 as the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) banned after the failed 1991 Soviet coup d'ètat attempt)
Ukraine (1919-1991) - Communist Party of Ukraine
South Yemen (1967–1990) - Yemeni Socialist Party (known from 1963 to 1978 as National Liberation Front) abandoned Marxism-Leninism for social democracy
Yugoslavia (1945–1990) - League of Communists of Yugoslavia (known from 1919 to 1952 as the Communist Party of Yugoslavia) broken up into separate parties in each constituent republic, abandoned Marxism-Leninism for social democracy
The formation of communist parties in various countries was first initiated by the formation of the communist Third International by the Russian Bolsheviks. Undoubtedly the most important of these parties were those of the Soviet Union and the People's Republic of China: the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the Communist Party of China, respectively.
Some communist parties have names such as Workers' Party, Socialist Party, Progressive Party, etc. Most, but not all, of the parties on this list are those that were aligned with either Moscow, Beijing or Tirana during the Cold War and their offshoots. Groups currently and exclusively participating in the Trotskyist or the Left communist tradition are not included in the listing, see List of Trotskyist organisations by country and List of Left communist organisations by country.
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Officially ruling parties in communist countries
In the following countries, the communist parties either lead the ruling coalition or hold monopoly on state power, as defined by their respective country's constitutions.
China - Communist Party of China leads the United Front
Cuba - Communist Party of Cuba
Laos - Lao People's Revolutionary Party leads the Lao Front for National Construction
Vietnam - Communist Party of Vietnam leads the Vietnamese Fatherland Front
Communist parties as ruling parties or part of ruling coalition in multi-party states
Bangladesh - Workers Party of Bangladesh participates in the ruling coalition
Chile - Communist Party of Chile participates in the ruling coalition
Ecuador - Communist Party of Ecuador participates in the ruling coalition led by PAIS Alliance
Greece - Movement for the United in Action Left participates in the ruling Coalition of the Radical Left
Nepal - Communist Party of Nepal (Unified Marxist–Leninist) leads the ruling coalition with participation of Unified Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist)
Palestine - Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine participates in the ruling coalition
Portugal - Portuguese Communist Party supports the XXI Constitutional Government (2015-) led by the Socialist Party.
Serbia - Communist Party (Serbia) participates in the SNS-SPS coalition government
South Africa - South African Communist Party participates in the ruling coalition
Syria - Syrian Communist Party and Syrian Communist Party (Unified) participate in the ruling coalition
Uruguay - Communist Party of Uruguay and People's Victory Party participate in the ruling coalition
Venezuela - Communist Party of Venezuela and Tupamaro participate in the ruling coalition
Formerly ruling
Afghanistan (1978–1992)- People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan abandoned Marxism–Leninism for social democracy and is now known as Watan Party of Afghanistan
Albania (1946–1992) - Party of Labour of Albania (known from 1941 to 1948 as the Communist Party of Albania) abandoned Marxism-Leninism for social democracy and is now known as Socialist Party of Albania
Angola (1975–1992) - Popular Movement for the Liberation of Angola – Labour Party (known from 1956 to 1977 as Popular Movement for the Liberation of Angola) abandoned Marxism–Leninism for social democracy
Benin (1975–1990) - People's Revolutionary Party of Benin abandoned Marxism–Leninism for social democracy and is now known as Union of Forces of Progress
Brazil (2003-2016) - Communist Party of Brazil, in coalition governments with Workers' Party
Bulgaria (1946–1990) - Bulgarian Communist Party (known from 1938-1948 as Bulgarian Workers' Party (Communists)) abandoned Marxism-Leninism and is now known as Bulgarian Socialist Party
Byelorussia (1920-1991) - Communist Party of Byelorussia
Cambodia (1975-1979, 1979–1991) - Communist Party of Kampuchea, broke up into the exile, non-ruling and now defunct Party of Democratic Kampuchea and ruling Kampuchean People's Revolutionary Party which abandoned Marxism-Leninism for social democracy and is now known as Cambodian People's Party
Congo-Brazzaville (1969–1992) - Congolese Party of Labour abandoned Marxism–Leninism for social democracy
Cyprus (2008–2013) - Progressive Party of Working People
Czechoslovakia (1948–1990) - Communist Party of Czechoslovakia broke up into the non-ruling Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia and the Communist Party of Slovakia
Ethiopia (1974–1987), (1987-1991) - Commission for Organizing the Party of the Working People of Ethiopia, Workers' Party of Ethiopia
East Germany (1949–1989) - Socialist Unity Party of Germany became Party of Democratic Socialism and is now a part of The Left
France (1944-1947, 1981-1984, 1997-2002) - French Communist Party, in coalition governments with French Socialist Party
Grenada (1979–1983) - New Jewel Movement
Guyana (1992–2015) - People's Progressive Party
Hungary (1919, 1949-1989) - Hungarian Communist Party, Hungarian Working People's Party, Hungarian Socialist Workers' Party abandoned Marxism-Leninism for social democracy and is now known as Hungarian Socialist Party
Moldova (2001–2009) - Party of Communists of the Republic of Moldova
Mongolia (1924–1992) - Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party (known from 1921 to 1924 and today too as the Mongolian People's Party) abandoned Marxism–Leninism for social democracy
Mozambique (1975–1990) - Frelimo Party (known from 1962 to 1977 as the Mozambique Liberation Front) abandoned Marxism–Leninism for social democracy
Nepal (1994–1995, 2008–2013) - Communist Party of Nepal (Unified Marxist-Leninist), Unified Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) (known from 1994 to 2009 as the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist))
Poland (1944–1989) - Polish Workers' Party, Polish United Workers' Party abandoned Marxism-Leninism for social democracy and is now known as Democratic Left Alliance
Romania (1947–1989) - Romanian Communist Party dissolved after the Romanian Revolution (known from 1948 to 1965 as Romanian Workers' Party)
San Marino (1945–1957) - Sammarinese Communist Party, in coalition government with Sammarinese Socialist Party
Somalia (1969–1991) - Supreme Revolutionary Council (1969-1976), Somali Revolutionary Socialist Party (1976-1991)
Soviet Union (1922–1991) - Communist Party of the Soviet Union (known from 1918 to 1925 as the Russian Communist Party (Bolsheviks) and from 1925 to 1952 as the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) banned after the failed 1991 Soviet coup d'ètat attempt)
Ukraine (1919-1991) - Communist Party of Ukraine
South Yemen (1967–1990) - Yemeni Socialist Party (known from 1963 to 1978 as National Liberation Front) abandoned Marxism-Leninism for social democracy
Yugoslavia (1945–1990) - League of Communists of Yugoslavia (known from 1919 to 1952 as the Communist Party of Yugoslavia) broken up into separate parties in each constituent republic, abandoned Marxism-Leninism for social democracy
21 January 2017 19:43
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Existing internationals
Committee for a Workers' International (Trotskyism)
Coordination Committee of Maoist Parties and Organisations of South Asia (Maoism)
Fourth International (Trotskyism)
Initiative of Communist and Workers' Parties (Marxism-Leninism, Europe)
International Committee of the Fourth International (Trotskyism)
International Communist Current (Left communism)
International Communist Party (Left communism)
International Communist Seminar (Marxism-Leninism)
International Conference of Marxist–Leninist Parties and Organizations (International Newsletter) (Maoism)
International Conference of Marxist–Leninist Parties and Organizations (Unity & Struggle) (Hoxhaism)
International Coordination of Revolutionary Parties and Organizations (Anti-Revisionism)
International Marxist Tendency (Trotskyism)
International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties (Marxism)
International of Anarchist Federations (Synthesis anarchism, Anarchist communism)
International Socialist Tendency (Trotskyism)
International Workers' Association (Anarcho-syndicalism)
Internationalist Communist Tendency (Left communism)
Progressive Alliance (Social democracy, Progressivism)
São Paulo Forum (Socialism of the 21st Century, Latin America)
Socialist International (Social democracy, Socialism)
World Socialist Movement (Impossibilism, Socialism)
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Committee for a Workers' International (CWI)[1]
Coordinating Committee for the Refoundation of the Fourth International (CRFI)[2]
United secretariat of the Fourth International (USFI)[3]
Fourth International (ICR), also called FI (La Verité) or FI (International Secretariat)[4]
International Bolshevik Tendency[5]
International Committee of the Fourth International[6]
International Communist League (Fourth Internationalist) (ICL-FI),[7] previously the International Spartacist Tendency
International Marxist Tendency (IMT),[8] previously the Committee for a Marxist International
International Socialist Tendency (IST)[9]
Internationalist Communist Union (ICU)[10]
International Workers League – Fourth International (IWL-FI)[11]
International Workers' Unity – Fourth International (IWU-FI)[12]
League for the Fifth International (L5I)[13]
League for the Fourth International (LFI)[14] [split from (ICL-FI)]
Revolutionary Communist International Tendency[15]
Trotskyist Fraction – Fourth International (TF-FI)[16]
Workers International to Rebuild the Fourth International (WIRFI)
There are also international groupings around some Trotskyist groups which have no formal international structure:
Alliance for Workers' Liberty
Movement (Movimiento)
Freedom Socialist Party
Committee for a Workers' International (Trotskyism)
Coordination Committee of Maoist Parties and Organisations of South Asia (Maoism)
Fourth International (Trotskyism)
Initiative of Communist and Workers' Parties (Marxism-Leninism, Europe)
International Committee of the Fourth International (Trotskyism)
International Communist Current (Left communism)
International Communist Party (Left communism)
International Communist Seminar (Marxism-Leninism)
International Conference of Marxist–Leninist Parties and Organizations (International Newsletter) (Maoism)
International Conference of Marxist–Leninist Parties and Organizations (Unity & Struggle) (Hoxhaism)
International Coordination of Revolutionary Parties and Organizations (Anti-Revisionism)
International Marxist Tendency (Trotskyism)
International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties (Marxism)
International of Anarchist Federations (Synthesis anarchism, Anarchist communism)
International Socialist Tendency (Trotskyism)
International Workers' Association (Anarcho-syndicalism)
Internationalist Communist Tendency (Left communism)
Progressive Alliance (Social democracy, Progressivism)
São Paulo Forum (Socialism of the 21st Century, Latin America)
Socialist International (Social democracy, Socialism)
World Socialist Movement (Impossibilism, Socialism)
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Committee for a Workers' International (CWI)[1]
Coordinating Committee for the Refoundation of the Fourth International (CRFI)[2]
United secretariat of the Fourth International (USFI)[3]
Fourth International (ICR), also called FI (La Verité) or FI (International Secretariat)[4]
International Bolshevik Tendency[5]
International Committee of the Fourth International[6]
International Communist League (Fourth Internationalist) (ICL-FI),[7] previously the International Spartacist Tendency
International Marxist Tendency (IMT),[8] previously the Committee for a Marxist International
International Socialist Tendency (IST)[9]
Internationalist Communist Union (ICU)[10]
International Workers League – Fourth International (IWL-FI)[11]
International Workers' Unity – Fourth International (IWU-FI)[12]
League for the Fifth International (L5I)[13]
League for the Fourth International (LFI)[14] [split from (ICL-FI)]
Revolutionary Communist International Tendency[15]
Trotskyist Fraction – Fourth International (TF-FI)[16]
Workers International to Rebuild the Fourth International (WIRFI)
There are also international groupings around some Trotskyist groups which have no formal international structure:
Alliance for Workers' Liberty
Movement (Movimiento)
Freedom Socialist Party
21 January 2017 19:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Yes, let's worry abut Islam instead,right?
No
No
21 January 2017 19:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"When i strike i strike hard"
"Today, the society functions primarily as a think tank and is one of 15 socialist societies affiliated with the Labour Party. Similar societies exist in Australia (the Australian Fabian Society), in Canada (the Douglas–Coldwell Foundation and the now disbanded League for Social Reconstruction), in Sicily (Sicilian Fabian Society) and in New Zealand (The NZ Fabian Society)
The Fabian Society founded the London School of Economics and Political Science in 1895 "for the betterment of society", now one of the leading institutions in the world, an incubator of influential politicians, economists, journalists, prime ministers and liberal billionaires (Membership
7,000)
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Main organ
Executive Committee
Subsidiaries Young Fabians, Fabian Women's Network, Scottish Fabians, around 60 local Fabian Societies
Affiliations Labour Party, Foundation for European Progressive Studies
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The tortoise is the symbol of Fabian Society, representing its goal of gradual expansion of socialism
According to author Jon Perdue, "The logo of the Fabian Society, a tortoise, represented the group’s predilection for a slow, imperceptible transition to socialism, while its coat of arms, a 'wolf in sheep’s clothing', represented its preferred methodology for achieving its goal."[8] The wolf in sheep’s clothing symbolism was later abandoned, due to its obvious negative connotations.
//public
Its nine (public) founding members were Frank Podmore, Edward R. Pease, William Clarke, Hubert Bland, Percival Chubb, Frederick Keddell,[ ] H. H. Champion, Edith Nesbit,[ and Rosamund Dale Owen. Havelock Ellis is sometimes also mentioned as a tenth founding member, though there is some question about this
"Today, the society functions primarily as a think tank and is one of 15 socialist societies affiliated with the Labour Party. Similar societies exist in Australia (the Australian Fabian Society), in Canada (the Douglas–Coldwell Foundation and the now disbanded League for Social Reconstruction), in Sicily (Sicilian Fabian Society) and in New Zealand (The NZ Fabian Society)
The Fabian Society founded the London School of Economics and Political Science in 1895 "for the betterment of society", now one of the leading institutions in the world, an incubator of influential politicians, economists, journalists, prime ministers and liberal billionaires (Membership
7,000)
--
Main organ
Executive Committee
Subsidiaries Young Fabians, Fabian Women's Network, Scottish Fabians, around 60 local Fabian Societies
Affiliations Labour Party, Foundation for European Progressive Studies
--
The tortoise is the symbol of Fabian Society, representing its goal of gradual expansion of socialism
According to author Jon Perdue, "The logo of the Fabian Society, a tortoise, represented the group’s predilection for a slow, imperceptible transition to socialism, while its coat of arms, a 'wolf in sheep’s clothing', represented its preferred methodology for achieving its goal."[8] The wolf in sheep’s clothing symbolism was later abandoned, due to its obvious negative connotations.
//public
Its nine (public) founding members were Frank Podmore, Edward R. Pease, William Clarke, Hubert Bland, Percival Chubb, Frederick Keddell,[ ] H. H. Champion, Edith Nesbit,[ and Rosamund Dale Owen. Havelock Ellis is sometimes also mentioned as a tenth founding member, though there is some question about this
21 January 2017 19:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thirteenth World Congress: 'New World Order'
The Thirteenth World Congress, in February 1991, was one of the most ambitious, addressing a systematic change in the global balance of forces. Its resolutions spanned the 'New World Order', European integration, feminism and the crisis of the Latin American left.[26] The resolutions discussed a fundamental reversal of fortune for the anti-capitalist struggle, reflected by defeats in Central America, the 1989 revolutions in the Eastern Bloc, and the weakening of the workers' movement. The congress rejected a counter-resolution on the world situation from a tendency supported by members of the International Socialist Group and the Revolutionary Communist League: the tendency was supported by six of the 100 delegates to the congress. In the opinion of the tendency, the crisis of imperialism was set to accelerate.
It was agreed to continue discussion on a resolution, "Socialist Revolution and Ecology", which was provisionally approved subject to approval at the fourteenth congress. The congress also approved the general line of a programatic manifesto, titled "Socialism or barbarism on the eve of the 21st century" and to continue the discussion on it at the January 1992 meeting of the International Executive Committee. It also registered substantial growth through the affiliation of the Nava Sama Samaja Party in Sri Lanka.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
The Thirteenth World Congress, in February 1991, was one of the most ambitious, addressing a systematic change in the global balance of forces. Its resolutions spanned the 'New World Order', European integration, feminism and the crisis of the Latin American left.[26] The resolutions discussed a fundamental reversal of fortune for the anti-capitalist struggle, reflected by defeats in Central America, the 1989 revolutions in the Eastern Bloc, and the weakening of the workers' movement. The congress rejected a counter-resolution on the world situation from a tendency supported by members of the International Socialist Group and the Revolutionary Communist League: the tendency was supported by six of the 100 delegates to the congress. In the opinion of the tendency, the crisis of imperialism was set to accelerate.
It was agreed to continue discussion on a resolution, "Socialist Revolution and Ecology", which was provisionally approved subject to approval at the fourteenth congress. The congress also approved the general line of a programatic manifesto, titled "Socialism or barbarism on the eve of the 21st century" and to continue the discussion on it at the January 1992 meeting of the International Executive Committee. It also registered substantial growth through the affiliation of the Nava Sama Samaja Party in Sri Lanka.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
21 January 2017 19:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You can Run, but You can not hide, for needed time. As everyone have to have opportunity to become to Light.
" The International Communist Seminar (ICS) is an annual communist conference held in Brussels, Belgium on May 2-4. It is organized by the Workers' Party of Belgium.
In 1992, Ludo Martens, leader of the Workers' Party of Belgium, initiated the conference, which gathers various tendencies of Marxist-Leninist parties and organizations. He is noted for having proposed the unification of the four main tendencies of the Marxist-Leninist movement. These are the pro-Soviet groups, the pro-Chinese, the pro-Albanian, and pro-Cuban.[2] About 150 organizations of Africa, Latin America, North America, Asia and Europe have taken part in it. For four years, from 1992 to 1995, the ICS worked on identifying "the true causes of the capitalist restoration in Soviet Union" and in Eastern Europe and to draw lessons from it for the future
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Themes of the recent ICS Conferences:
2013: The attacks on the democratic rights and freedoms in the world capitalist crisis
2011: The strengthening of communist parties in times of a deepening capitalist systemic crisis
2006: Present and past experiences in the international communist movement: "The impact of the Communist International on the founding and the development of the communist parties in particular countries", "The exchange of concrete experiences of Party work in the working class and among the youth"
2005: Internationalist experiences and tasks of Communists in the struggle against imperialism
2004: The strategy and tactics of the struggle against global US imperialist war
2003: The Marxist-Leninist Party and the anti-imperialist Front facing the war
2002: Economical crises and the possibility of a major world crisis
2001: The world socialist revolution in the conditions of imperialist globalization.
2000: Imperialism, fascization and fascism
1999: Imperialism means war
1998: The working class, its leading role, new forms of exploitation and experiences of struggle and organization.
1997: The way of the October revolution is the way of the liberation of the workers
1996: The anti-imperialist struggle under the New World Order.
// The New World Order .... is something under what one can hide, and blame it at same time. And anything coming against You will be like dirt water on well polished windshield
" The anti-imperialist struggle under the New World Order. "
Participating parties
The follow list isn't incomplete.
Afghanistan, People's Party of Afghanistan
Algeria, Algerian Party for Democracy and Socialism
Azerbaijan, Azerbaijan Communist Party
Belarus, Belarussian Communist Workers' Party
Belgium, Workers' Party of Belgium
Benin, Communist Party of Benin
Brazil, Communist Party of Brazil
Brazil, Free Homeland Party
Bulgaria, Party of Bulgarian Communists
China, Communist Party of China
Colombia, Colombian Communist Party
Cuba, Communist Party of Cuba
Cyprus, Progressive Party of Working People
Denmark, Communist Party of Denmark
Denmark, Communist Party in Denmark
France, Union of Revolutionary Communists of France
France, Pole of Communist Revival in France
Germany, German Communist Party
Greece, Communist Party of Greece
Hungary, Hungarian Workers' Party
Iran, Tudeh Party of Iran
Ireland, Workers' Party of Ireland
Laos, Lao People's Revolutionary Party
Latvia, Socialist Party of Latvia
Lebanon, Lebanese Communist Party
Lithuania, Socialist People's Front
Luxembourg, Communist Party of Luxembourg
Malta, Communist Party of Malta
Mexico, Popular Socialist Party of Mexico
Netherlands, New Communist Party of the Netherlands
Palestine, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine
Palestine, Palestinian Communist Party
Philippines, Partido Komunista ng Pilipinas-1930
Portugal, Portuguese Communist Party
Russia, Communist Party of the Russian Federation
Russia, Russian Communist Workers' Party of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union
Russia, Communist Party of the Soviet Union (2001)
Serbia, New Communist Party of Yugoslavia
South Sudan, Communist Party of South Sudan
Spain, Communist Party of Spain
Spain, Spanish Communist Workers' Party
Spain, Communist Party of the Peoples of Spain
Sri Lanka, People's Liberation Front
Sweden, Communist Party
Switzerland, Swiss Party of Labour
Switzerland, Communist Party of Southern Switzerland
Switzerland, Communist Party of Geneva - "Les Communistes"
Taiwan, Labor Party
Tunisia, Democratic Patriots' Party
Turkey, Communist Party of Turkey
Turkey, Labour Party
Ukraine, Union of Communists of Ukraine
United Kingdom, Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist–Leninist)
USA, Freedom Road Socialist Organization
Venezuela, Communist Party of Venezuela
Vietnam, Communist Party of Vietnam
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Communist_Seminar
" The International Communist Seminar (ICS) is an annual communist conference held in Brussels, Belgium on May 2-4. It is organized by the Workers' Party of Belgium.
In 1992, Ludo Martens, leader of the Workers' Party of Belgium, initiated the conference, which gathers various tendencies of Marxist-Leninist parties and organizations. He is noted for having proposed the unification of the four main tendencies of the Marxist-Leninist movement. These are the pro-Soviet groups, the pro-Chinese, the pro-Albanian, and pro-Cuban.[2] About 150 organizations of Africa, Latin America, North America, Asia and Europe have taken part in it. For four years, from 1992 to 1995, the ICS worked on identifying "the true causes of the capitalist restoration in Soviet Union" and in Eastern Europe and to draw lessons from it for the future
---
Themes of the recent ICS Conferences:
2013: The attacks on the democratic rights and freedoms in the world capitalist crisis
2011: The strengthening of communist parties in times of a deepening capitalist systemic crisis
2006: Present and past experiences in the international communist movement: "The impact of the Communist International on the founding and the development of the communist parties in particular countries", "The exchange of concrete experiences of Party work in the working class and among the youth"
2005: Internationalist experiences and tasks of Communists in the struggle against imperialism
2004: The strategy and tactics of the struggle against global US imperialist war
2003: The Marxist-Leninist Party and the anti-imperialist Front facing the war
2002: Economical crises and the possibility of a major world crisis
2001: The world socialist revolution in the conditions of imperialist globalization.
2000: Imperialism, fascization and fascism
1999: Imperialism means war
1998: The working class, its leading role, new forms of exploitation and experiences of struggle and organization.
1997: The way of the October revolution is the way of the liberation of the workers
1996: The anti-imperialist struggle under the New World Order.
// The New World Order .... is something under what one can hide, and blame it at same time. And anything coming against You will be like dirt water on well polished windshield
" The anti-imperialist struggle under the New World Order. "
Participating parties
The follow list isn't incomplete.
Afghanistan, People's Party of Afghanistan
Algeria, Algerian Party for Democracy and Socialism
Azerbaijan, Azerbaijan Communist Party
Belarus, Belarussian Communist Workers' Party
Belgium, Workers' Party of Belgium
Benin, Communist Party of Benin
Brazil, Communist Party of Brazil
Brazil, Free Homeland Party
Bulgaria, Party of Bulgarian Communists
China, Communist Party of China
Colombia, Colombian Communist Party
Cuba, Communist Party of Cuba
Cyprus, Progressive Party of Working People
Denmark, Communist Party of Denmark
Denmark, Communist Party in Denmark
France, Union of Revolutionary Communists of France
France, Pole of Communist Revival in France
Germany, German Communist Party
Greece, Communist Party of Greece
Hungary, Hungarian Workers' Party
Iran, Tudeh Party of Iran
Ireland, Workers' Party of Ireland
Laos, Lao People's Revolutionary Party
Latvia, Socialist Party of Latvia
Lebanon, Lebanese Communist Party
Lithuania, Socialist People's Front
Luxembourg, Communist Party of Luxembourg
Malta, Communist Party of Malta
Mexico, Popular Socialist Party of Mexico
Netherlands, New Communist Party of the Netherlands
Palestine, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine
Palestine, Palestinian Communist Party
Philippines, Partido Komunista ng Pilipinas-1930
Portugal, Portuguese Communist Party
Russia, Communist Party of the Russian Federation
Russia, Russian Communist Workers' Party of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union
Russia, Communist Party of the Soviet Union (2001)
Serbia, New Communist Party of Yugoslavia
South Sudan, Communist Party of South Sudan
Spain, Communist Party of Spain
Spain, Spanish Communist Workers' Party
Spain, Communist Party of the Peoples of Spain
Sri Lanka, People's Liberation Front
Sweden, Communist Party
Switzerland, Swiss Party of Labour
Switzerland, Communist Party of Southern Switzerland
Switzerland, Communist Party of Geneva - "Les Communistes"
Taiwan, Labor Party
Tunisia, Democratic Patriots' Party
Turkey, Communist Party of Turkey
Turkey, Labour Party
Ukraine, Union of Communists of Ukraine
United Kingdom, Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist–Leninist)
USA, Freedom Road Socialist Organization
Venezuela, Communist Party of Venezuela
Vietnam, Communist Party of Vietnam
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Communist_Seminar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Communist_Seminar
21 January 2017 19:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Algeria – Parti socialiste des travailleurs
Austria – Socialist Alternative (Sozialistische Alternative, SOAL)
Bangladesh - Communist Party of Bangladesh (Marxist–Leninist)[46]
Belgium – Ligue Communiste Révolutionnaire-Socialistische Arbeiderspartij, LCR-SAP
Brazil – Insurgência (a group within Socialism and Liberty Party, PSOL)
United Kingdom Britain – Socialist Resistance (SR)
Canada – Canada - New Socialist Group
Quebec – Gauche Socialiste, GS
Denmark – Socialistisk ArbejderPolitik, SAP
France – Nouveau Parti anticapitaliste
Corsica – A Manca (A Manca)
Germany – Internationale Sozialistische Linke, ISL
Germany – Revolutionär Sozialistischer Bund, RSB
Greece – Organosi Kommouniston Diethniston Ellados-Spartakos, OKDE-Spartakos
Italy – Sinistra Anticapitalista
Italy – Communia Network
Italy – Sinistra Critica
Mexico – Partido Revolucionario de los Trabajadores
Netherlands – Socialist Alternative Politics (Socialistische Alternatieve Politiek, SAP)
Philippines – Rebolusyonaryong Partido ng Manggagawa – Mindanao
Portugal – Revolutionary Socialist Political Association (APSR) (Edições Combate)
Puerto Rico – Taller de Formación Política, TFP
Russia – Russian Socialist Movement (former members of the Socialist league VPERED)
Spain – Izquierda Anticapitalista, IA
Catalonia – Revolta Global – Esquerra Anticapitalista)
South Africa – Amandla!
Sri Lanka – New Social Equality Party, NSSP
Sweden – Socialistiska Partiet, SP
Turkey – (New Course for Socialist Democracy) (Sosyalist Demokrasi icin Yeniyol)
Organizations with 'permanent observer' status
Organizations who share the International's perspective of struggle but do not wish to join it formally can obtain the status of "permanent observer". This status enables organizations to participate in meetings of leading bodies—which bodies will be specified in each case—with the right to speak but not to vote.
Argentina – Socialist Workers' Movement - New Left (MST-Nueva Izquierda)
Australia – Socialist Alternative
Croatia – Workers Struggle (Radnicka Borba)
France – Anticapitalist Left (Gauche anticapitaliste)
France – Unitarian Left (Gauche unitaire)
Greece – Kokkino
India – Radical Socialists
Indonesia – Politik Rakyat
Switzerland – Anticapitalist Left (Gauche Anticapitaliste (GA))
Switzerland – Movement for Socialism (Mouvement pour le socialisme (La Brèche))
Switzerland – Solidarity (Switzerland) (solidaritéS)
Organizations with currents supporting the FI
Brazil – Socialism and Liberty Party-PSOL (Insurgência, MES and CRS)
Denmark – Red-Green Alliance (Denmark) (Enhedslisten – De Rød-Grønne)
Portugal – Left Bloc (Bloco de Esquerda, BE): Revolutionary Socialist Party (Partido Socialista Revolucionário, PSR), a current within
Sympathizing organizations (including ex-official sections)
Ireland – Socialist Democracy
Japan – Japan Revolutionary Communist League (Nihon Kakumeiteki Kyôsanshugisha Dômei, JRCL)
United States – Socialist Action
United States– Solidarity
Youth groups
Greece – OKDE Youth Circles
Belgium – Anticapitalist Youth
Sweden – Socialist Youth
United States – Youth for Socialist Action
Organisations linked to the FI
These organisations have been thought to have had fraternal relations with the FI, but are not listed on the FI's list of sections.
Previously thought to have been sections
Egypt – Section of the Fourth International
India – Revolutionary Communist Organization (Inquilabi Communist Sangathan). The ICS was a section but no longer exists.
South Korea – Power of the Working Class (No-dong-ja-euy Him). This
Japan – Fourth International Japan Section Reconstruction Preparation Group (Dayon Intânashonaru Nihon Shibu Saiken Jumbi Gurûpu, Dayon Intâ Saiken-ha)
Japan – Fourth International Women's Liberation Group (Dayon Intâ Josei Kaihô Gurûpu, Dayon Intâ Jokai G). The 1991 Congress decided the members of this group remained members of the FI when the JRCL was derecognised.
Luxembourg – Revolutionary Socialist Party (Revolutionär Sozialistesch Partei /Parti Socilaiste Révolutionnaire). This was the section but no longer exists.
Paraguay – Section of the Fourth International
Tunisia – Revolutionary Communist Organization (Organisation Communiste Révolutionnaire). This was the section but no longer exists.
Previously thought to have been sympathising sections
Mauritius – Lalit. The FI has fraternal relations but Lalit has never has any status in the FI although the initial organisation counted FI members among its founders.
Mexico – Revolutionary Workers' Party-Socialist Convergence (Partido Revolucionario de los y las Trabajadores-Convergencia Socialista). In the 1990s, a time of extreme fragmentation of the PRT this was one current which maintained an existence for some years.
South Africa – Workers Organisation for Socialist Action
Previously thought to have been observers
Australia – Democratic Socialist Perspective (DSP) (Dissolved in 2010)
Scotland – International Socialist Movement (dissolved in 2006)
Switzerland – Socialist Alternative / Solidarity (Sozialistische Alternative / Solidarität, SOAL)
United States – International Socialist Organization (ISO)
Previously thought to have contained FI supporters
Corsica – Movement of the National Left (Muvimentu di a Manca Naziunale) – still does.
Germany – Association for Solidarity Perspectives (Verein für solidarische Perspektiven, VsP) The actual ISL was a current within the VSP.
Malaysia – Socialist Party of Malaysia
Morocco – Party of the Unified Socialist Left (Parti Socialiste Unifié / الحزب الإشتراكي الموحد)
Norway – Red Electoral Alliance (Rød Valgallianse, RV)
Norway – Socialist Left Party (Sosialistisk Venstreparti, SV)
Paraguay – Socialist Popular Convergence Party (Partido Convergencia Popular Socialista)
Poland – Revolutionary Left Current (Nurt Lewicy Rewolucyjnej, NLR)
Réunion – Mouvement pour une alternative réunionnaise à l'ordre néolibéral
Senegal – And-Jëf/African Party for Democracy and Socialism (And Jëf/Parti africain pour la Démocratie et le Socialisme, AJ/PADS) – a current within
Syria – Antiglobalization Activists in Syria (AGAS)
Turkey – Freedom and Solidarity Party (Özgürlük ve Dayanisma Partisi, ÖDP) – a current within
United States – Labor Standard
Internal factions
Revolutionary Marxists
Supported by:
France – Anticapitalism & Revolution (Anticapitalisme & Révolution) (faction of the New Anticapitalist Party)
Germany – Revolutionary Socialist League (Revolutionär Sozialistischer Bund, RSB)
Greece – Organization of Communist Internationalists of Greece-Spartacus (Organosi Kommouniston Diethniston Ellados-Spartakos, OKDE-Spartakos)
Ireland - Socialist Democracy
United States - Socialist Action
Canada - Socialist Action
---
Yes, one of the viewpoints are to keep online visits to master locations small, so electronically no one can put eye on it, as of only half a million visitors,
Considering a Network from 50 countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Viewpoint
Austria – Socialist Alternative (Sozialistische Alternative, SOAL)
Bangladesh - Communist Party of Bangladesh (Marxist–Leninist)[46]
Belgium – Ligue Communiste Révolutionnaire-Socialistische Arbeiderspartij, LCR-SAP
Brazil – Insurgência (a group within Socialism and Liberty Party, PSOL)
United Kingdom Britain – Socialist Resistance (SR)
Canada – Canada - New Socialist Group
Quebec – Gauche Socialiste, GS
Denmark – Socialistisk ArbejderPolitik, SAP
France – Nouveau Parti anticapitaliste
Corsica – A Manca (A Manca)
Germany – Internationale Sozialistische Linke, ISL
Germany – Revolutionär Sozialistischer Bund, RSB
Greece – Organosi Kommouniston Diethniston Ellados-Spartakos, OKDE-Spartakos
Italy – Sinistra Anticapitalista
Italy – Communia Network
Italy – Sinistra Critica
Mexico – Partido Revolucionario de los Trabajadores
Netherlands – Socialist Alternative Politics (Socialistische Alternatieve Politiek, SAP)
Philippines – Rebolusyonaryong Partido ng Manggagawa – Mindanao
Portugal – Revolutionary Socialist Political Association (APSR) (Edições Combate)
Puerto Rico – Taller de Formación Política, TFP
Russia – Russian Socialist Movement (former members of the Socialist league VPERED)
Spain – Izquierda Anticapitalista, IA
Catalonia – Revolta Global – Esquerra Anticapitalista)
South Africa – Amandla!
Sri Lanka – New Social Equality Party, NSSP
Sweden – Socialistiska Partiet, SP
Turkey – (New Course for Socialist Democracy) (Sosyalist Demokrasi icin Yeniyol)
Organizations with 'permanent observer' status
Organizations who share the International's perspective of struggle but do not wish to join it formally can obtain the status of "permanent observer". This status enables organizations to participate in meetings of leading bodies—which bodies will be specified in each case—with the right to speak but not to vote.
Argentina – Socialist Workers' Movement - New Left (MST-Nueva Izquierda)
Australia – Socialist Alternative
Croatia – Workers Struggle (Radnicka Borba)
France – Anticapitalist Left (Gauche anticapitaliste)
France – Unitarian Left (Gauche unitaire)
Greece – Kokkino
India – Radical Socialists
Indonesia – Politik Rakyat
Switzerland – Anticapitalist Left (Gauche Anticapitaliste (GA))
Switzerland – Movement for Socialism (Mouvement pour le socialisme (La Brèche))
Switzerland – Solidarity (Switzerland) (solidaritéS)
Organizations with currents supporting the FI
Brazil – Socialism and Liberty Party-PSOL (Insurgência, MES and CRS)
Denmark – Red-Green Alliance (Denmark) (Enhedslisten – De Rød-Grønne)
Portugal – Left Bloc (Bloco de Esquerda, BE): Revolutionary Socialist Party (Partido Socialista Revolucionário, PSR), a current within
Sympathizing organizations (including ex-official sections)
Ireland – Socialist Democracy
Japan – Japan Revolutionary Communist League (Nihon Kakumeiteki Kyôsanshugisha Dômei, JRCL)
United States – Socialist Action
United States– Solidarity
Youth groups
Greece – OKDE Youth Circles
Belgium – Anticapitalist Youth
Sweden – Socialist Youth
United States – Youth for Socialist Action
Organisations linked to the FI
These organisations have been thought to have had fraternal relations with the FI, but are not listed on the FI's list of sections.
Previously thought to have been sections
Egypt – Section of the Fourth International
India – Revolutionary Communist Organization (Inquilabi Communist Sangathan). The ICS was a section but no longer exists.
South Korea – Power of the Working Class (No-dong-ja-euy Him). This
Japan – Fourth International Japan Section Reconstruction Preparation Group (Dayon Intânashonaru Nihon Shibu Saiken Jumbi Gurûpu, Dayon Intâ Saiken-ha)
Japan – Fourth International Women's Liberation Group (Dayon Intâ Josei Kaihô Gurûpu, Dayon Intâ Jokai G). The 1991 Congress decided the members of this group remained members of the FI when the JRCL was derecognised.
Luxembourg – Revolutionary Socialist Party (Revolutionär Sozialistesch Partei /Parti Socilaiste Révolutionnaire). This was the section but no longer exists.
Paraguay – Section of the Fourth International
Tunisia – Revolutionary Communist Organization (Organisation Communiste Révolutionnaire). This was the section but no longer exists.
Previously thought to have been sympathising sections
Mauritius – Lalit. The FI has fraternal relations but Lalit has never has any status in the FI although the initial organisation counted FI members among its founders.
Mexico – Revolutionary Workers' Party-Socialist Convergence (Partido Revolucionario de los y las Trabajadores-Convergencia Socialista). In the 1990s, a time of extreme fragmentation of the PRT this was one current which maintained an existence for some years.
South Africa – Workers Organisation for Socialist Action
Previously thought to have been observers
Australia – Democratic Socialist Perspective (DSP) (Dissolved in 2010)
Scotland – International Socialist Movement (dissolved in 2006)
Switzerland – Socialist Alternative / Solidarity (Sozialistische Alternative / Solidarität, SOAL)
United States – International Socialist Organization (ISO)
Previously thought to have contained FI supporters
Corsica – Movement of the National Left (Muvimentu di a Manca Naziunale) – still does.
Germany – Association for Solidarity Perspectives (Verein für solidarische Perspektiven, VsP) The actual ISL was a current within the VSP.
Malaysia – Socialist Party of Malaysia
Morocco – Party of the Unified Socialist Left (Parti Socialiste Unifié / الحزب الإشتراكي الموحد)
Norway – Red Electoral Alliance (Rød Valgallianse, RV)
Norway – Socialist Left Party (Sosialistisk Venstreparti, SV)
Paraguay – Socialist Popular Convergence Party (Partido Convergencia Popular Socialista)
Poland – Revolutionary Left Current (Nurt Lewicy Rewolucyjnej, NLR)
Réunion – Mouvement pour une alternative réunionnaise à l'ordre néolibéral
Senegal – And-Jëf/African Party for Democracy and Socialism (And Jëf/Parti africain pour la Démocratie et le Socialisme, AJ/PADS) – a current within
Syria – Antiglobalization Activists in Syria (AGAS)
Turkey – Freedom and Solidarity Party (Özgürlük ve Dayanisma Partisi, ÖDP) – a current within
United States – Labor Standard
Internal factions
Revolutionary Marxists
Supported by:
France – Anticapitalism & Revolution (Anticapitalisme & Révolution) (faction of the New Anticapitalist Party)
Germany – Revolutionary Socialist League (Revolutionär Sozialistischer Bund, RSB)
Greece – Organization of Communist Internationalists of Greece-Spartacus (Organosi Kommouniston Diethniston Ellados-Spartakos, OKDE-Spartakos)
Ireland - Socialist Democracy
United States - Socialist Action
Canada - Socialist Action
---
Yes, one of the viewpoints are to keep online visits to master locations small, so electronically no one can put eye on it, as of only half a million visitors,
Considering a Network from 50 countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Viewpoint
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Viewpoint
21 January 2017 19:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Dream Name
21 January 2017 18:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
is Her Name
21 January 2017 18:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or a fearry?
21 January 2017 12:03
Margus Meigo commented on Princess Kleopatra Euridike's photo.
Did You get to be a Wife?
21 January 2017 11:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so this hurt, is not a pain, is not a bitter, it is blessing
as long there is real love to keep and stay in
as long there is real love to keep and stay in
21 January 2017 05:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as this is sweet, real LIFE (alive) hurt if there is any, .. if you stay in love
21 January 2017 05:32
Margus Meigo commented on Princess Kleopatra Euridike's post.
i believe in love without hurt
21 January 2017 05:31
Margus Meigo commented on Princess Kleopatra Euridike's post.
well, unless you see well..
21 January 2017 05:30
Margus Meigo commented on Princess Kleopatra Euridike's post.
try to make this questionnaire in San Fransisco ...
21 January 2017 05:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as this is what God breaths
21 January 2017 05:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but nature is jet, for me more Godly
21 January 2017 05:21
Margus Meigo commented on Princess Kleopatra Euridike's post.
Godly
21 January 2017 05:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
21 January 2017 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
including "why"
... often when asking from people then answers come back as they would not have think about it, really
the answer what is their OWN opinion, and WHY is it good or better then other points of views
and how many views have one take in to account...
... often when asking from people then answers come back as they would not have think about it, really
the answer what is their OWN opinion, and WHY is it good or better then other points of views
and how many views have one take in to account...
21 January 2017 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
had hard time sending email to he's wife, but got it done finally
21 January 2017 02:44
Margus Meigo replied to Kahoosier Hoosier's comment.
(do what you will, just i did my part, what i can)
(as bible says if you know but not tell the help then other person pain is yours(fault) as well)
Ezekiel 3:18 ( James 4:17 ) this is also a little bit of doctor ethics.
(bdw, what this nice way failed Amsterdam trip did, it made me religious, naturally)
(as bible says if you know but not tell the help then other person pain is yours(fault) as well)
Ezekiel 3:18 ( James 4:17 ) this is also a little bit of doctor ethics.
(bdw, what this nice way failed Amsterdam trip did, it made me religious, naturally)
21 January 2017 02:34
Margus Meigo replied to Kahoosier Hoosier's comment.
but most of all, main rules are:
make alone in safe place outside city if Larger amounts, if not just for pleasant relaxation and soft interesting depression removing.. not good to meet strangers on this moment.. but being in city is another level of fault that sounds to spiritual to try to explain
if with someone, let it be someone who is spiritually clean, godly and someone you trust or it will turn in extended levels of mistrust
and most of all, before just making decision all the time to "stay safe" .. look in to proper literature, the real "side effects" besides time-travel etc and look our current life in here, and think... is it worth to risk, not to get personally involved with greatest mysteries of life and death
with a plants, that no on can die, nor the psychedelic mushrooms nor even the red fly Amanita muscaria
what people make sound in school books as it would be toxic just because it's family is related to poison's mushrooms,
potato, pepper and tobacco plant is also related to much more darker plant, that courses persistent deliriums.. well, this is the reason i think they use it as new common food and products in this planet, but this is another half esoteric topic, to imagine that someone can have plan with human species (and with our thinking) by regulating what we eat and use
and as i am not just for talk, here is various videos where i eat the Fly mushroom out in wild, fresh:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsXelNZnKcxnWDnxpja771qWx1ctXFPHl
make alone in safe place outside city if Larger amounts, if not just for pleasant relaxation and soft interesting depression removing.. not good to meet strangers on this moment.. but being in city is another level of fault that sounds to spiritual to try to explain
if with someone, let it be someone who is spiritually clean, godly and someone you trust or it will turn in extended levels of mistrust
and most of all, before just making decision all the time to "stay safe" .. look in to proper literature, the real "side effects" besides time-travel etc and look our current life in here, and think... is it worth to risk, not to get personally involved with greatest mysteries of life and death
with a plants, that no on can die, nor the psychedelic mushrooms nor even the red fly Amanita muscaria
what people make sound in school books as it would be toxic just because it's family is related to poison's mushrooms,
potato, pepper and tobacco plant is also related to much more darker plant, that courses persistent deliriums.. well, this is the reason i think they use it as new common food and products in this planet, but this is another half esoteric topic, to imagine that someone can have plan with human species (and with our thinking) by regulating what we eat and use
and as i am not just for talk, here is various videos where i eat the Fly mushroom out in wild, fresh:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsXelNZnKcxnWDnxpja771qWx1ctXFPHl
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsXelNZnKcxnWDnxpja771qWx1ctXFPHl
21 January 2017 02:32
Margus Meigo replied to Kahoosier Hoosier's comment.
people have near on their hand., nearly free, exceptionally safe, beneficial tools of nature that can make look any science fiction movie like sad scribe, but people settle for less..
well, and this settings as was used in a Amsterdam city we confirmed, is no good : )
for many reasons besides not respecting a plant and well... frankly mixing in to much other things at first is no good shamanic practice..
well, and this settings as was used in a Amsterdam city we confirmed, is no good : )
for many reasons besides not respecting a plant and well... frankly mixing in to much other things at first is no good shamanic practice..
21 January 2017 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to Kahoosier Hoosier's comment.
you can also google together this out of many variations: (1-3)-alpha-d-glucans Amanita muscaria
and again.. for example,
many old ones know many curing properties of Amanita but mainstream still lives in delusion as it would be remotely toxic mushroom, i know it is not,
i have eat entire Large packet of these in 3+ days on going trip, and perfectly alive.
It is not psychedelics, but it has proper physical curing properties but i was not after these... i was for the information where it can take, and o boy, it took places and did things.. and show things...
not for fun, as it is giving various versions of serious information be on human normal worlds where we live in, what we see with eyes..it makes series of humbleness tests with you, before you can see more, to remove fears and see the reasons, why are you coming to visit..
http://universitypost.dk/article/danish-mushroom-kills-cancer-cells
and again.. for example,
many old ones know many curing properties of Amanita but mainstream still lives in delusion as it would be remotely toxic mushroom, i know it is not,
i have eat entire Large packet of these in 3+ days on going trip, and perfectly alive.
It is not psychedelics, but it has proper physical curing properties but i was not after these... i was for the information where it can take, and o boy, it took places and did things.. and show things...
not for fun, as it is giving various versions of serious information be on human normal worlds where we live in, what we see with eyes..it makes series of humbleness tests with you, before you can see more, to remove fears and see the reasons, why are you coming to visit..
http://universitypost.dk/article/danish-mushroom-kills-cancer-cells
http://universitypost.dk/article/danish-mushroom-kills-cancer-cells
21 January 2017 02:17
Margus Meigo replied to Kahoosier Hoosier's comment.
never to late,
works for war veterans works for You, ..besides, as i told.. there is great many other benefits that you should hunt anyway before death ,
ibu and para are the radical ones, radical to our body and radical as they are new and dangerous compared to treatments and medicines that have been around from the beginning of human species.
ibu and para are not the cures as you know doc, you need cure man, for.. as you deserve it
(and this time to make treatment with understanding)
But yea, these things are not Aristotelian medicine ... its completely another level
and as the Roman-Greek medicine still try to extract parts of plants to try to fit it in to a tablet then there is another kind of medicines that just work, also by curing spiritual elements and in co-operation with belief.
If belief is lacking then people lacking will to live and then nature will have hard time to co-operate.
But yeah.. kind of makes me smile of these kind of study... they make it so scientific sounding and a lot of text by trng not to mention what happens, .. but in third party new's cites they can a bit loose up the language..but still to little in my opinion .
https://news.vice.com/article/psychedelic-mushrooms-are-being-studied-to-help-ease-depression-and-anxiety
works for war veterans works for You, ..besides, as i told.. there is great many other benefits that you should hunt anyway before death ,
ibu and para are the radical ones, radical to our body and radical as they are new and dangerous compared to treatments and medicines that have been around from the beginning of human species.
ibu and para are not the cures as you know doc, you need cure man, for.. as you deserve it
(and this time to make treatment with understanding)
But yea, these things are not Aristotelian medicine ... its completely another level
and as the Roman-Greek medicine still try to extract parts of plants to try to fit it in to a tablet then there is another kind of medicines that just work, also by curing spiritual elements and in co-operation with belief.
If belief is lacking then people lacking will to live and then nature will have hard time to co-operate.
But yeah.. kind of makes me smile of these kind of study... they make it so scientific sounding and a lot of text by trng not to mention what happens, .. but in third party new's cites they can a bit loose up the language..but still to little in my opinion .
https://news.vice.com/article/psychedelic-mushrooms-are-being-studied-to-help-ease-depression-and-anxiety
https://news.vice.com/article/psychedelic-mushrooms-are-being-studied-to-help-ease-depression-and-anxiety
21 January 2017 02:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in minute 7, also if looking from Russia conspiracy point of view, then it can be looked as with patriotism take american claw's away from the world so Eurasia power can do it,
and once collected power enough, by this time, has been taken care, that ..
and once collected power enough, by this time, has been taken care, that ..
20 January 2017 22:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Strong speech indeed,
but let's see how well you handle the top 10 most dangerous gangs in America, for who some has more then 100 000 members, not well organized, but well deceived, but as time of world is healing time anyway, who ever would be president, would do good, have to work Really hard to fail on current coming times,
https://youtu.be/zAXioj8Y3c4?t=420
but let's see how well you handle the top 10 most dangerous gangs in America, for who some has more then 100 000 members, not well organized, but well deceived, but as time of world is healing time anyway, who ever would be president, would do good, have to work Really hard to fail on current coming times,
https://youtu.be/zAXioj8Y3c4?t=420
20 January 2017 22:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
why they use hypnotic fish-lance camera, strange
20 January 2017 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
For a atheist behavior they talk much about God
good, so judgement will be more sure.
good, so judgement will be more sure.
20 January 2017 18:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"With his left hand on a Bible used by Abraham Lincoln, the real estate mogul and former reality TV star will be sworn in about noon ET on Friday. "
President-elect Donald Trump will be sworn in as the 45th president of the United States today and Yahoo News will be there to bring you live coverage. From the crowds gathering all morning and the swearing in to the parade and parties, we’ll have all the latest from Washington.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tune-in-live-updates-from-the-inauguration-of-donald-trump-025737088.html
President-elect Donald Trump will be sworn in as the 45th president of the United States today and Yahoo News will be there to bring you live coverage. From the crowds gathering all morning and the swearing in to the parade and parties, we’ll have all the latest from Washington.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tune-in-live-updates-from-the-inauguration-of-donald-trump-025737088.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tune-in-live-updates-from-the-inauguration-of-donald-trump-025737088.html
20 January 2017 18:40
Margus Meigo commented on Margus Kask's post.
Group: Kristlased
Oot kas see on nalja uudis või mis, mis mõttes tasuta pühavesi, nad seda õnnistatud vett mõtlevad sääl kriku sisehoones, selle vasknõu sees?20 January 2017 17:18
Margus Meigo commented on Margus Kask's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ma olen seda pidevalt tasuta joomas käinud sääl, millal seda raha eest veel jagatud on?
Nu on ikka inimesed20 January 2017 17:17
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Kaasik's post.
Group: Kristlased
Oota mis moodi see pime saab usklik olla ja mis asja osas see nägija näeb?20 January 2017 17:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
20 January 2017 06:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Okey, it looked to comical, lets hope the movie comes out better, except the sex scene in the end, this one perhaps they can extend on big screen
But .. like really.. .. this "American" thing looks so comical, when someone with red pentagram on forehead walks around in this outfit and...
well.. lets hope in these days they remove the pentagram at least, or it will look like captain America again , to communistic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1IbORGwzLY
But .. like really.. .. this "American" thing looks so comical, when someone with red pentagram on forehead walks around in this outfit and...
well.. lets hope in these days they remove the pentagram at least, or it will look like captain America again , to communistic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1IbORGwzLY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1IbORGwzLY
20 January 2017 05:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as you know, we experience much more in real life then this what these heroes show on screen , MUCH more.. with ease
with sharable results also, not just private experiences
VR got nothing on us, jet :p
with sharable results also, not just private experiences
VR got nothing on us, jet :p
20 January 2017 04:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
not, that i do
more of wizards, shamans and multi realty and in time moving, material changing entities fan
Something from my own league
more of wizards, shamans and multi realty and in time moving, material changing entities fan
Something from my own league
20 January 2017 03:58
Margus Meigo commented on Judith E. Avery's post.
well, at least superman does not have any pentagrams on hes main logo, that is reason enough to like it
20 January 2017 03:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and yes, try what Donna told:
1 Click the File tab and select Recent from the list. ...
2 Click the link Recover Unsaved Documents. ...
3 Select from the list the document that you want to recover
that is, if You are lucky
1 Click the File tab and select Recent from the list. ...
2 Click the link Recover Unsaved Documents. ...
3 Select from the list the document that you want to recover
that is, if You are lucky
20 January 2017 03:54
Margus Meigo commented on Judith E. Avery's post.
For important computers, Always use KeyLogger,
To make sure everything u type is still some way recoverable, .. it can even send in secret protected place your typed files, regulatory.
But people so much focused to be private and scared of someone reading their things that they rather have no copies for them self them risking with extremely dim chance that someone can access our online storage or keyloger files more then tens of other methods that are much more realistic .
well, countless times when i have the same happened..
To make sure everything u type is still some way recoverable, .. it can even send in secret protected place your typed files, regulatory.
But people so much focused to be private and scared of someone reading their things that they rather have no copies for them self them risking with extremely dim chance that someone can access our online storage or keyloger files more then tens of other methods that are much more realistic .
well, countless times when i have the same happened..
20 January 2017 03:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
was that any good?
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/16461645/Wonder_Woman(1975-1979)All_Seasons_Completed[DVDRip] ?
well, am still hunting for my wonder women (or rather waiting the same brunette with who i messed up ),
hope last for ever :D
( https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1863687668664&set=a.1863491663764.2105367.1135161043&type=3&theater )
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/16461645/Wonder_Woman(1975-1979)All_Seasons_Completed[DVDRip] ?
well, am still hunting for my wonder women (or rather waiting the same brunette with who i messed up ),
hope last for ever :D
( https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1863687668664&set=a.1863491663764.2105367.1135161043&type=3&theater )
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/16461645/Wonder_Woman(1975-1979)All_Seasons_Completed[DVDRip]
20 January 2017 03:48
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's photo.
Just noticed that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Woman_(2017_film) jeey..
Wondered, who is the chick in badman vs superman, well.
he is not really dead right, just ...
Wondered, who is the chick in badman vs superman, well.
he is not really dead right, just ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Woman_(2017_film)
20 January 2017 03:44
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
yeah, what are you, an Einstein? Thank You for pointing out obvious.. of wait a minute, you Are Albert Einstein :D
20 January 2017 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Bill Hicks and Him is one of my favorites from the first revolutionaries who dared to speak truth so strong on all these topics,
... now is times when anyone can tell anything they want, as so few cares or listens.. or understands
... now is times when anyone can tell anything they want, as so few cares or listens.. or understands
20 January 2017 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
it is also period for headaches (it seems) for many people right now, something strange but not so scientific :p
20 January 2017 03:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Of-course there is another kind of headaches that people can have after trip also, besides curing these head who have headache first, but it is just a day, after brain adjust.
Only if You fight with it, just keep away from cafe and meat before trip, And for sure away from alcohol
Drink a normal amount of water and get in to place where you can not lose the license, You know there is nothing in a blood after psychedelics.
Just heart and mind feels better and can even find salvation if needed.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11503730
If nothing else, if can not find shrooms, then would also consider 300+ ug of L SD,
with little bit of some pure MDMA or better jet, also, mescaline if mood go down to much.
It is okey doc, we have done the research.
Only if You fight with it, just keep away from cafe and meat before trip, And for sure away from alcohol
Drink a normal amount of water and get in to place where you can not lose the license, You know there is nothing in a blood after psychedelics.
Just heart and mind feels better and can even find salvation if needed.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11503730
If nothing else, if can not find shrooms, then would also consider 300+ ug of L SD,
with little bit of some pure MDMA or better jet, also, mescaline if mood go down to much.
It is okey doc, we have done the research.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11503730
20 January 2017 03:26
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Or if You want to go to safer side, and not get yourself hooked,
what about taking 5+ grams of magic mushrooms for massive pains as normal people who have
https://clusterbusters.org/treatment-options-busting/the-psilocybin-mushroom/
There is also many other reasons You should do it considering Your life , and not a wuzz amount, but the strongest version of these and the large "Terrence mackenna" dosage as they call it in pop media
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/05/longtime-sufferers-of-cluster-headaches-find-relief-in-psychedelics.html
what about taking 5+ grams of magic mushrooms for massive pains as normal people who have
https://clusterbusters.org/treatment-options-busting/the-psilocybin-mushroom/
There is also many other reasons You should do it considering Your life , and not a wuzz amount, but the strongest version of these and the large "Terrence mackenna" dosage as they call it in pop media
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/05/longtime-sufferers-of-cluster-headaches-find-relief-in-psychedelics.html
https://clusterbusters.org/treatment-options-busting/the-psilocybin-mushroom/
20 January 2017 03:19
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Give a call to Mike J from energy department, maybe he got something on stock
20 January 2017 03:15
Margus Meigo commented on Joyce Rheal's post.
they can move a house from one place to another .. and have to blow up a whale..
how hard would it have been to take ropes, some large fish ship. pull Her to sea and let her sink there with some respectful help.
how hard would it have been to take ropes, some large fish ship. pull Her to sea and let her sink there with some respectful help.
20 January 2017 03:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja kui mitte maiselt siis oma vägitegudes ikka!
19 January 2017 15:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ps: is BS to think all is bs
19 January 2017 10:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as few sentences between are also good. needed points
wil try to write them out sometime when time
wil try to write them out sometime when time
19 January 2017 10:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
also, to liberal...
showing not what it is about...
but Maybe still doing what is needed, even if by Someones planned to be something against knowing
showing not what it is about...
but Maybe still doing what is needed, even if by Someones planned to be something against knowing
19 January 2017 09:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kus naised hybriididest interviusi andsid ja palju jms
19 January 2017 09:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lisaks ta vist ise oma enda raamatud unustanud v...
19 January 2017 09:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
dangerus mistakes han...
19 January 2017 04:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Allar Kaljundi
19 January 2017 04:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu jaa, aga kuidas nad seda mündi sisse sedasi teevad..
Nu peaasi, et kuidagi midagi sellistki teevad, kuid jah, mine neid tehnologiaid tea..
Et lihtsalt meil igast karpmõtlemisega pead ju arvutavad kohe juba .. et kui eritööd igale mündile vaja ja massi pealt läheb kalliks siis...
eks kunagi karpmaja ajastust ka edasi areneme.. mine tea..
Nu peaasi, et kuidagi midagi sellistki teevad, kuid jah, mine neid tehnologiaid tea..
Et lihtsalt meil igast karpmõtlemisega pead ju arvutavad kohe juba .. et kui eritööd igale mündile vaja ja massi pealt läheb kalliks siis...
eks kunagi karpmaja ajastust ka edasi areneme.. mine tea..
19 January 2017 03:52
Margus Meigo commented on Olga Raag's post.
Meie elektrihind on tühine, see on odav,
Kuid mis on mystiline, on need lisamaksud, mis on 3-4 korda suuremad kui arve.
Mul empsil arve 5-7 eurot ja siis maksud on 20-40 eurot lisaks,
Ühe kuu võrgutasud jms kokku oli arve 65 eurot.
Oli kauavõib saates ka sellega
Kuid mis on mystiline, on need lisamaksud, mis on 3-4 korda suuremad kui arve.
Mul empsil arve 5-7 eurot ja siis maksud on 20-40 eurot lisaks,
Ühe kuu võrgutasud jms kokku oli arve 65 eurot.
Oli kauavõib saates ka sellega
19 January 2017 03:48
Margus Meigo commented on Olga Raag's post.
Väga väga hea
19 January 2017 03:45
Margus Meigo commented on Olga Raag's post.
hästi öeldud!
(kas ise?)
(kas ise?)
19 January 2017 03:45
Margus Meigo commented on Olga Raag's photo.
we must be looking so mystical for them
19 January 2017 03:44
Margus Meigo commented on Harri Kingo's post.
ja põhiline, et pole ühtki viisnurka, kuigi neile selgelt anti vihje midagi taolist sinna panna, aga oskas olukorra südametega päästa : )
19 January 2017 03:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aga mis tehnoloogiaga Sul see pääsuke sinna myndile mustana jääb?
18 January 2017 21:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muidugi onneks mitte enamus, kuid weebi väljaannetes tihti just viisnurgaga varjante kasutatakse kui teemast räägitakse
eks me lopuks pea neist kõikidest nurkadest ikka kuidagi lahti saama
http://www.coindesk.com/10-physical-bitcoins-good-bad-ugly/
eks me lopuks pea neist kõikidest nurkadest ikka kuidagi lahti saama
http://www.coindesk.com/10-physical-bitcoins-good-bad-ugly/
18 January 2017 21:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vaat kui kavalalt nad selle asja peale suruvad,
õnneks nad Sind õnge ei saanud.
Isegi mitmele bitCoinile need viisnurgad hakkasid peale ilmuma,
https://www.google.ee/search?q=bitcoin+coin&num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiEzI7WuszRAhVCDywKHaqsAAMQ_AUICCgB#imgrc=G_ACbq3faxreWM%3A
õnneks nad Sind õnge ei saanud.
Isegi mitmele bitCoinile need viisnurgad hakkasid peale ilmuma,
https://www.google.ee/search?q=bitcoin+coin&num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiEzI7WuszRAhVCDywKHaqsAAMQ_AUICCgB#imgrc=G_ACbq3faxreWM%3A
https://www.google.ee/search?q=bitcoin+coin&num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiEzI7WuszRAhVCDywKHaqsAAMQ_AUICCgB#imgrc=G_ACbq3faxreWM%3A
18 January 2017 21:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But i do like honesty
Me to but not cruel
" "We are a totalitarian party of intellectual type, focused on the eschatological takeover of the entire planet. This will be a cunning and cruel takeover.", "We are the builders of the New Empire and will not agree on anything less than world domination."
Or another translation after website correction:
" We - the totalitarian party intellectual type, focused on the eschatological seizure of planetary authority. Cunning and cruel grip"
arcto.ru/article/1056
http://graniru.org/opinion/abarinov/m.233386.html
Me to but not cruel
" "We are a totalitarian party of intellectual type, focused on the eschatological takeover of the entire planet. This will be a cunning and cruel takeover.", "We are the builders of the New Empire and will not agree on anything less than world domination."
Or another translation after website correction:
" We - the totalitarian party intellectual type, focused on the eschatological seizure of planetary authority. Cunning and cruel grip"
arcto.ru/article/1056
http://graniru.org/opinion/abarinov/m.233386.html
18 January 2017 04:22
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Vähe, oli öeldud optimistlikult, et tagasihoidlikust säilitada
18 January 2017 04:15
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
sa räägid mingist liigist kellega ennast sarnastad ja kelle sarnaselt jka tihti mõtled, ehki loodetavasti ei käitu (peale juuste pügamise, alkoholi, uskumatuse jms vast veel mis kergesti parandatav).
inimene ise on äärmiselt kasulik ja vajalik loodusele, ega ta meid muidu teinud oleks ,
lihtsalt nagu ka looduses viirused levivad ja haigused ja mõne haiguse parandamine võtab aega, nii ka inimeste SEEST, hulgast, saab varsti see haigus mis inimsarnased loomad ja osati inimesed loodusvastaselt käituma paneb.
Vähe on olemusi kogu loomingus kokku mis saab niipalju kasu tekitada kogu loomingule ja kõikidele loomadele, kui inimesed
inimene ise on äärmiselt kasulik ja vajalik loodusele, ega ta meid muidu teinud oleks ,
lihtsalt nagu ka looduses viirused levivad ja haigused ja mõne haiguse parandamine võtab aega, nii ka inimeste SEEST, hulgast, saab varsti see haigus mis inimsarnased loomad ja osati inimesed loodusvastaselt käituma paneb.
Vähe on olemusi kogu loomingus kokku mis saab niipalju kasu tekitada kogu loomingule ja kõikidele loomadele, kui inimesed
18 January 2017 04:15
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
vot neid koori vaja ka süüa vahest, sest luudele hea, taimedele ka. Ise muidu munavalget eelistan ainult,
Kollasest kõlbab ainult munavõiet teha, mis aitab unustada mis selle asja tegelik olemus on mida sööd
Kollasest kõlbab ainult munavõiet teha, mis aitab unustada mis selle asja tegelik olemus on mida sööd
18 January 2017 04:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Updates, that is done after few years,
changing outlooks, of major look
changing outlooks, of major look
18 January 2017 04:09
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ei ole nii
1) Elu pole haigus, sest haigus on Elu sees, elu osaks muutuv kui on väärareng elus, ilma eluta pole ka haigust. Haiguse eelduseks on elu, elu eelduseks ei ole eeldatavasti haigus.
2) Elu ei pea sugulisel teel jagama
3) Surm on paljude arvates mingis oleku filosoofiline konsept ehk ei pruugi reaalselt eksisteerida kogu kooslusele millest elu olemus koosneb.
4) Kui elu on midagi, mis on vaimu väline Sinu arvates, siis milleks vaimud sellesse haigusesse nakatuvad, või kes ja mis neid siia püüab?
Saab ka nii vaadata ja see huvitav vaatepunkt mida paljud luterlaste ja emode liiki inimesed koos tehnokraatia inimestega oma nurga läbi põhimõtteliselt samat moodi toetavad, et; on vaja SIIT ära, välja saada, et Päris Olemusse jõuda.
Seega, kas Sa mõtlesid, nn. Spirituaalselt,
või puht maiselt, sapiselt, et surm on elu ?
1) Elu pole haigus, sest haigus on Elu sees, elu osaks muutuv kui on väärareng elus, ilma eluta pole ka haigust. Haiguse eelduseks on elu, elu eelduseks ei ole eeldatavasti haigus.
2) Elu ei pea sugulisel teel jagama
3) Surm on paljude arvates mingis oleku filosoofiline konsept ehk ei pruugi reaalselt eksisteerida kogu kooslusele millest elu olemus koosneb.
4) Kui elu on midagi, mis on vaimu väline Sinu arvates, siis milleks vaimud sellesse haigusesse nakatuvad, või kes ja mis neid siia püüab?
Saab ka nii vaadata ja see huvitav vaatepunkt mida paljud luterlaste ja emode liiki inimesed koos tehnokraatia inimestega oma nurga läbi põhimõtteliselt samat moodi toetavad, et; on vaja SIIT ära, välja saada, et Päris Olemusse jõuda.
Seega, kas Sa mõtlesid, nn. Spirituaalselt,
või puht maiselt, sapiselt, et surm on elu ?
18 January 2017 02:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
18 January 2017 01:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
katehon.com/article/vladimir-putin-and-conservative-revolution
http://katehon.com/article/vladimir-putin-and-conservative-revolution
18 January 2017 01:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://arcto.ru/article/1056
http://arcto.ru/article/1056
18 January 2017 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"In 1998, Dugin became an adviser to the speaker of the lower house of the Russian parliament Gennady Seleznyov. In December 1999, after the next parliamentary elections, he tells his followers:
Seleznev guided in its international and domestic activities of geopolitics, the Eurasian doctrine. Most large-scale returns on Yugoslavia, the Caucasus, etc., who voiced Seleznev in the Kremlin, in the UN, OSCE, etc., were theoretically prepared Arctogaia (publishing and think tank Dugin -. VA). He also believes that this method of relationship to serious problems it is necessary to summarize and Eurasian do all education from school to academies ... If there is any significant and visible success Arktogei, so it's our impact on the country leading up to Putin, Sergei Shoigu, Stroyev and some of the characters surrounded by Yeltsin to the generals, the General Staff and the intelligence agencies ... We - the totalitarian party intellectual type, focused on the eschatological seizure of planetary authority. Cunning and cruel grip "
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В 1998 году Дугин стал советником спикера нижней палаты российского парламента Геннадия Селезнева. В декабре 1999-го, после очередных парламентских выборов, он сообщает своим соратникам:
Селезнев руководствуется в своей международной и внутриполитической деятельности геополитикой, евразийской доктриной. Большинство масштабных деклараций по Югославии, Кавказу и т.д., который озвучивал Селезнев в Кремле, в ООН, в ОБСЕ и т.д., были теоретически подготовлены Арктогеей (издательство и мозговой центр Дугина. - В.А.). Он считает также, что подобный метод отношения к серьезным проблемам надо обобщить и сделать все образование евразийским со школы до академий... Если и есть какой-то ощутимый и видимый успех Арктогеи, так это наше влияние на руководство страны вплоть до Путина, Шойгу, Строева и некоторых персонажей в окружении Ельцина, на генералитет, Генштаб и спецслужбы ...Мы - тоталитарная партия интеллектуального типа, ориентированная на эсхатологический захват планетарной власти. Хитрый и жестокий захват.
Seleznev guided in its international and domestic activities of geopolitics, the Eurasian doctrine. Most large-scale returns on Yugoslavia, the Caucasus, etc., who voiced Seleznev in the Kremlin, in the UN, OSCE, etc., were theoretically prepared Arctogaia (publishing and think tank Dugin -. VA). He also believes that this method of relationship to serious problems it is necessary to summarize and Eurasian do all education from school to academies ... If there is any significant and visible success Arktogei, so it's our impact on the country leading up to Putin, Sergei Shoigu, Stroyev and some of the characters surrounded by Yeltsin to the generals, the General Staff and the intelligence agencies ... We - the totalitarian party intellectual type, focused on the eschatological seizure of planetary authority. Cunning and cruel grip "
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В 1998 году Дугин стал советником спикера нижней палаты российского парламента Геннадия Селезнева. В декабре 1999-го, после очередных парламентских выборов, он сообщает своим соратникам:
Селезнев руководствуется в своей международной и внутриполитической деятельности геополитикой, евразийской доктриной. Большинство масштабных деклараций по Югославии, Кавказу и т.д., который озвучивал Селезнев в Кремле, в ООН, в ОБСЕ и т.д., были теоретически подготовлены Арктогеей (издательство и мозговой центр Дугина. - В.А.). Он считает также, что подобный метод отношения к серьезным проблемам надо обобщить и сделать все образование евразийским со школы до академий... Если и есть какой-то ощутимый и видимый успех Арктогеи, так это наше влияние на руководство страны вплоть до Путина, Шойгу, Строева и некоторых персонажей в окружении Ельцина, на генералитет, Генштаб и спецслужбы ...Мы - тоталитарная партия интеллектуального типа, ориентированная на эсхатологический захват планетарной власти. Хитрый и жестокий захват.
18 January 2017 01:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui sedasi kaares, siis ka tundub omamoodi liiiga ringlev mitmete tähtede sarnane
18 January 2017 00:45
Margus Meigo commented on Olga Raag's photo.
Vaat kui kena on iga mõnt, kui sellel viisnurki ei ole peal, vaid veel hoopis südamed, see uus,
kuigi, mina oleks vast ühe südame pannud, lihtsalt vist selle pärast, et tähelepanu fokuseeriks, kuid nii on ka omamoodi
kuigi, mina oleks vast ühe südame pannud, lihtsalt vist selle pärast, et tähelepanu fokuseeriks, kuid nii on ka omamoodi
18 January 2017 00:44
Margus Meigo commented on Olga Raag's photo.
The Eagle, splitted personalty, as great part of human natures current nature
18 January 2017 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ukrainakaku silmad, ilus : )
18 January 2017 00:41
Margus Meigo commented on Olga Raag's photo.
Ma ise ka Kullimaalt : )
18 January 2017 00:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(to put foodLists, front)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsfrOO-IYnE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsfrOO-IYnE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsfrOO-IYnE
18 January 2017 00:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZihRNJqyH4#t=807.401
18 January 2017 00:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjJBh4a5BeQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjJBh4a5BeQ
18 January 2017 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
There is also perhaps foods, that kill you if You not eat them, and not like in revenge, as potatoes-tobacco family,
but as Your spirit not getting what is needed, for any kind of change, as humans should withstand , and have been doing that with small and large effort, consciously helping others to keep unconsciously.
For their own good, so they can survive.
but as Your spirit not getting what is needed, for any kind of change, as humans should withstand , and have been doing that with small and large effort, consciously helping others to keep unconsciously.
For their own good, so they can survive.
18 January 2017 00:35
Margus Meigo commented on Adam Karlovsky's post.
hard to like it as it is true
17 January 2017 23:28
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
One Love!
17 January 2017 22:48
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
utorrent
17 January 2017 22:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
maybe even Dugin
17 January 2017 21:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Real Russia patriots also want the same
17 January 2017 21:03
Margus Meigo commented on Ian Harris's post.
We do not want a war with Russia but t destroy Hydra, and free Russia from Russia, and other lands, from pentagram
Must be really unhuman person to think, that Russia is holding it citizens in normal level, compared to what they CAN hold, if they would want to, as one of the richest lands in world with only 140 million people
Must be really unhuman person to think, that Russia is holding it citizens in normal level, compared to what they CAN hold, if they would want to, as one of the richest lands in world with only 140 million people
17 January 2017 21:03
Margus Meigo commented on Ian Harris's post.
this was the whole point of robots, that we can have more easier life, and a bit make slavery easier on people,
but it takes even another century to make people understand, that most of planet is under HEAVY slavery
but it takes even another century to make people understand, that most of planet is under HEAVY slavery
17 January 2017 21:00
Margus Meigo commented on Ian Harris's post.
BBC should have special permission, even to talk about organizations like Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
17 January 2017 20:57
Margus Meigo replied to Alex Tupa's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
but this is true, that some version of whites are different from the version of humans who naturally originated from land called Africa
specially if they are outside indo-European language spectrum17 January 2017 04:46
Margus Meigo replied to Alex Tupa's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
no, this is soviet propacanda17 January 2017 04:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Since 1945 constantly REVISITED idea creating bad breath bomb (does not help if You wash yourself..) ..
Well, trick is also, that Your own brain does not feel the smell.
Effective also, for keeping people away from each other who got marked.
It is related to some bacteria more like.. that can live in You, as host, special method for removing..
Well, trick is also, that Your own brain does not feel the smell.
Effective also, for keeping people away from each other who got marked.
It is related to some bacteria more like.. that can live in You, as host, special method for removing..
17 January 2017 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Making Gay Vampires with bad breath:
Obvious and Annoying Chemicals [include] a low toxicity compound of that still retaining the characteristic of creating (severe and lasting halitosis, smelly moth) for those exposed in small concentrations.
But by far the most infamous paragraph of this report detailed those "we're working on it" chemicals that would alter human behavior such that foes would become a genus of pansexual morlock:
"Chemicals that affect human behavior so that discipline and morale in enemy units is adversely effected [sic]. One distasteful but completely non-lethal example would be strong aphrodisiacs, especially if the chemical caused homosexual behavior. Another example would be a chemical that made personnel very sensitive to sunlight."
Obvious and Annoying Chemicals [include] a low toxicity compound of that still retaining the characteristic of creating (severe and lasting halitosis, smelly moth) for those exposed in small concentrations.
But by far the most infamous paragraph of this report detailed those "we're working on it" chemicals that would alter human behavior such that foes would become a genus of pansexual morlock:
"Chemicals that affect human behavior so that discipline and morale in enemy units is adversely effected [sic]. One distasteful but completely non-lethal example would be strong aphrodisiacs, especially if the chemical caused homosexual behavior. Another example would be a chemical that made personnel very sensitive to sunlight."
17 January 2017 04:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And now we just smoking and eating this plant near cousins daily, wondering why society is in global delirium:
"The use of chemicals to induce altered states of mind in an adversary dates back to antiquity and includes the use of plants of the nightshade family (Solanaceae), such as the thornapple (Datura stramonium), that contain various combinations of anticholinergic alkaloids. The use of nonlethal chemicals to render an enemy force incapable of fighting dates back to at least 600 B.C. when Solon's soldiers threw hellebore roots into streams supplying water to enemy troops, who then developed diarrhea.[citation needed] In 184 B.C., Hannibal's army used belladonna plants to induce disorientation,and the Bishop of Münster in A.D. 1672 attempted to use belladonna-containing grenades in an assault on the city of Groningen."
"The use of chemicals to induce altered states of mind in an adversary dates back to antiquity and includes the use of plants of the nightshade family (Solanaceae), such as the thornapple (Datura stramonium), that contain various combinations of anticholinergic alkaloids. The use of nonlethal chemicals to render an enemy force incapable of fighting dates back to at least 600 B.C. when Solon's soldiers threw hellebore roots into streams supplying water to enemy troops, who then developed diarrhea.[citation needed] In 184 B.C., Hannibal's army used belladonna plants to induce disorientation,and the Bishop of Münster in A.D. 1672 attempted to use belladonna-containing grenades in an assault on the city of Groningen."
17 January 2017 03:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" In biological warfare, a distinction is also made between bio-agents as Lethal Agents (e.g., Bacillus anthracis, Francisella tularensis, Botulinum toxin) or Incapacitating Agents (e.g., Brucella suis, Coxiella burnetii, Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus, Staphylococcal enterotoxin B)
17 January 2017 03:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
""An agent that produces temporary physiological or mental effects, or both, which will render individuals incapable of concerted effort in the performance of their assigned duties."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incapacitating_agent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incapacitating_agent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incapacitating_agent
17 January 2017 03:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
( : The Black Vault
17 January 2017 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.pricklyresearch.com/webdump/Odds%20and%20Ends/wpafbchem%20(the%20gay%20bomb%20original).pdf
17 January 2017 03:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
remotely related the pandoras box they opened, as it was just not chemicals they used but psychology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb
17 January 2017 03:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tommy Bor's post.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
Anyway, should it not be tied to a hardware also, from where you listening what u listening...17 January 2017 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
"The strongest opponents of the upward tendency in pitch were singers, who complained that it was putting a strain on their voices. Largely due to their protests, the French government passed a law on February 16, 1859, which set the A above middle C at 435 Hz.[2] This was the first attempt to standardize pitch on such a scale, and was known as the diapason normal. It became quite a popular pitch standard outside France as well, and has also been known at various times as French pitch, continental pitch or international pitch (the last of these not to be confused with the 1939 "international standard pitch" described below).
The diapason normal resulted in middle C being tuned at about 258.65 Hz (info). An alternative pitch standard known as philosophical or scientific pitch fixed middle C at 256 Hz (info) (that is, 28 Hz), which resulted in the A above it being approximately 430.54 Hz (info). The appeal of this system was its mathematical idealism (the frequencies of all the Cs being powers of two).[4] This system never received the same official recognition as the French A = 435 Hz and was not widely used. This tuning has been promoted unsuccessfully by the Schiller Institute under the name Verdi tuning since Italian composer Giuseppe Verdi had proposed a slight lowering of the French tuning system. However, the Schiller Institute's recommended tuning of A is 432 Hz rather than the mathematically derived 430.54 Hz.[5][6]
British attempts at standardisation in the 19th century gave rise to the old philharmonic pitch standard of about A = 452 Hz (different sources quote slightly different values), replaced in 1896 by the considerably "deflated" new philharmonic pitch at A = 439 Hz.[2] The high pitch was maintained by Sir Michael Costa for the Crystal Palace Handel Festivals, causing the withdrawal of the principal tenor Sims Reeves in 187717 January 2017 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on Tommy Bor's post.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
It is designated A4 in scientific pitch notation because it occurs in the octave that starts with the fourth C key on a standard 88-key piano keyboard. On MIDI, it is note 69.
A440 is widely used as concert pitch in the United Kingdom[4] and the United States.[5] In continental Europe the frequency of A commonly varies between 440 Hz and 444 Hz.[4] In the period instrument movement, a consensus has arisen around a modern baroque pitch of 415 Hz (A♭ = 440 Hz), baroque for some special church music (Chorton pitch) at 466 Hz (A♯ = 440 Hz), and classical pitch at 430 Hz
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From the early 18th century, pitch could be also controlled with the use of tuning forks (invented in 1711), although again there was variation. For example, a tuning fork associated with Handel, dating from 1740, is pitched at A = 422.5 Hz, (info) while a later one from 1780 is pitched at A = 409 Hz, (info) about a quarter-tone lower.[2] Overall, there was a tendency towards the end of the 18th century for the frequency of the A above middle C to be in the range of 400 (info) to 450 Hz. (info)
The frequencies quoted here are based on modern measurements and would not have been precisely known to musicians of the day. Although Mersenne had made a rough determination of sound frequencies as early as the 17th century, such measurements did not become scientifically accurate until the 19th century, beginning with the work of German physicist Johann Scheibler in the 1830s. The term formerly used for the unit of pitch, cycle per second (CPS) was replaced by hertz (Hz) in the 20th century in honor of Heinrich Rudolf Hertz. The two terms are equivalent: 1 CPS = 1 Hz.
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The US time and frequency station WWV broadcasts a 440 Hz signal at two minutes past every hour, with WWVH broadcasting the same tone at the first minute past every hour. This was added in 1936 to aid orchestras in tuning their instruments
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"WWV is the oldest continuously-operating radio station in the United States, first going on the air from Washington, D.C. in May 1920, approximately six months before the launch of KDKA. The station first broadcast Friday evening concerts on 600 kHz, and its signal could be heard 40 kilometers (25 mi) from Washington. On December 15, 1920, WWV began broadcasting on 750 kHz, distributing Morse code news reports from the Department of Agriculture. This signal could be heard up to 300 kilometers (190 mi) from Washington. These news broadcasts ended on April 15, 1921
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concert_pitch#History_of_pitch_standards_in_Western_musichttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concert_pitch#History_of_pitch_standards_in_Western_music
17 January 2017 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
wrong opinions17 January 2017 02:27
Margus Meigo commented on Madison M. W. Collins's post.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
Opinions are main cause of mental illnes17 January 2017 02:27
Margus Meigo commented on Carlos Fonseca Silva's post.
Well,
By this time is hard to know on who's interests the Snowden serves best .. from all sides we all have who think, it is ours and the ones who know that it is opposite
By this time is hard to know on who's interests the Snowden serves best .. from all sides we all have who think, it is ours and the ones who know that it is opposite
17 January 2017 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on Jose Acosta Acosta's post.
I was reading Ayuasca at first : )
17 January 2017 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Same once more:
" Hitler's Mannerheim Monologue : Recording made in secret in 1942. Contains the first 11 minutes of Adolf Hitler having a private "conversation" with Finland's General Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim. Hitler never raised his voice. He just talked non stop about the Soviet Union's unexpected and overwhelming number of tanks and war planes which Germany was desperately trying to destroy. Hitler is known to have held frequent long monologues when he was with people of his inner circle.
During the visit, an engineer of the Finnish broadcasting company YLE, Thor Damen, succeeded in recording the first 11 minutes of Hitler's and Mannerheim's private conversation. This had to be done secretly, as Hitler never allowed others to record him off-guard. Damen was given the assignment to record the official birthday speeches and Mannerheim's responses and following those orders added microphones to certain railway cars.
Unfortunately, Mannerheim and his guests chose to go to a car that didn't have a microphone in it. Damen acted quickly, pushing a microphone through one of the car windows to a netshelf just above where Hitler and Mannerheim were sitting. After 11 minutes of Hitler's and Mannerheim's private conversation, Hitler's SS bodyguards spotted the cords coming out of the window and realized that the Finnish engineer was recording the conversation. They gestured to him to stop recording immediately, and he complied. The SS bodyguards demanded that the tape be immediately destroyed, but YLE was allowed to keep the reel, after promising to keep it in a sealed container. It was given to the head of the state censors' office Kustaa Vilkuna and in 1957 returned to YLE. It was made available to the public a few years later. It is the only known recording of Hitler speaking in an unofficial tone.
There is an unsubstantiated story that during his meeting with Hitler, Mannerheim lit a cigar. Mannerheim supposed that Hitler would ask Finland for help against the Soviet Union, which Mannerheim was unwilling to give. When Mannerheim lit up, all in attendance gasped, for Hitler's aversion to smoking was well known. Yet Hitler continued the conversation calmly, with no comment. In this way, Mannerheim could judge if Hitler was speaking from a position of strength or weakness. He was able to refuse Hitler, knowing that Hitler was in a weak position, and could not dictate to him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8raDPASvq0
" Hitler's Mannerheim Monologue : Recording made in secret in 1942. Contains the first 11 minutes of Adolf Hitler having a private "conversation" with Finland's General Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim. Hitler never raised his voice. He just talked non stop about the Soviet Union's unexpected and overwhelming number of tanks and war planes which Germany was desperately trying to destroy. Hitler is known to have held frequent long monologues when he was with people of his inner circle.
During the visit, an engineer of the Finnish broadcasting company YLE, Thor Damen, succeeded in recording the first 11 minutes of Hitler's and Mannerheim's private conversation. This had to be done secretly, as Hitler never allowed others to record him off-guard. Damen was given the assignment to record the official birthday speeches and Mannerheim's responses and following those orders added microphones to certain railway cars.
Unfortunately, Mannerheim and his guests chose to go to a car that didn't have a microphone in it. Damen acted quickly, pushing a microphone through one of the car windows to a netshelf just above where Hitler and Mannerheim were sitting. After 11 minutes of Hitler's and Mannerheim's private conversation, Hitler's SS bodyguards spotted the cords coming out of the window and realized that the Finnish engineer was recording the conversation. They gestured to him to stop recording immediately, and he complied. The SS bodyguards demanded that the tape be immediately destroyed, but YLE was allowed to keep the reel, after promising to keep it in a sealed container. It was given to the head of the state censors' office Kustaa Vilkuna and in 1957 returned to YLE. It was made available to the public a few years later. It is the only known recording of Hitler speaking in an unofficial tone.
There is an unsubstantiated story that during his meeting with Hitler, Mannerheim lit a cigar. Mannerheim supposed that Hitler would ask Finland for help against the Soviet Union, which Mannerheim was unwilling to give. When Mannerheim lit up, all in attendance gasped, for Hitler's aversion to smoking was well known. Yet Hitler continued the conversation calmly, with no comment. In this way, Mannerheim could judge if Hitler was speaking from a position of strength or weakness. He was able to refuse Hitler, knowing that Hitler was in a weak position, and could not dictate to him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8raDPASvq0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8raDPASvq0
17 January 2017 01:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Contrary to suggestions Hitler made many speeches in which he spoke with a fairly normal tone of voice (that has not been destroyed by opponents). Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRsl53tMypQ&list=UUgb9FLJyn13ujGQEV6XiGQA&index=9&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRsl53tMypQ&list=UUgb9FLJyn13ujGQEV6XiGQA&index=9&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRsl53tMypQ&list=UUgb9FLJyn13ujGQEV6XiGQA&index=9&feature=plcp
17 January 2017 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Warning: Hitler videos are high power magnets which attract worthless comments from totally uneducated illiterate morons. Even if your English language skills are limited, it doesn't hurt to have a civilised debate.
This is a manipulative video which pretends to examine the implications of a secretly made recording from 1942 of the first 11 minutes of Adolf Hitler's private conversation with Finland's General Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim.
Viewers are advised to make up their own mind about what they hear, especially if they don't understand German absolutely perfectly. The commentary is similar to many other war related propaganda films produced by biased USA "historians" for brainwashing future generations. The pot calling the kettle black.
It's not much use complaining over the contents of any documentary many years after it was produced. The best attitude is to be selective about what parts, if any, you accept as truth and what you reject as biased conjecture. Even the type of music producers use has a profound effect on how visual content comes across. I often switch off audio and make up my mind based on what the camera has captured. For other videos i.e. Nurnberg trials, just listen to the audio. At the end of the day it's a combination of parts of different videos and books which will give the best overall understanding of any historic event.
Fundamental divisions amongst totally confused viewers become obvious when reading the comments in this or any of the hundreds of similar war documentaries on YouTube. Most comments strings for WW2 videos inevitably turn into a war of words between pro and anti Zionists. Hare brain comments which are made purely for the sake of causing offence will be removed.
On November 12, 1938, Hermann Goering had told the German Cabinet that Hitler was going to suggest to the West the emigration of Jews to Madagascar. Hjalmar Schacht, Reichsbank president, during discussions in London, tried to procure an international loan to send the Jews to Madagascar (Germany would make a profit since the Jews would only be allowed to take their money out in German goods). In December 1939, Joachim von Ribbentrop, the German foreign minister, even included the emigration of Jews to Madagascar as part of a peace proposal to the pope.
Since Madagascar was still a French colony during these discussions, Germany had no way to enact their proposals without France's approval. Since Madagascar was in no position to support more than a few thousand people - the island would have become a ghetto for several million Jews with conditions of living worse than for Palestinian refugees in the Gaza strip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlSb4KnxD7Q
This is a manipulative video which pretends to examine the implications of a secretly made recording from 1942 of the first 11 minutes of Adolf Hitler's private conversation with Finland's General Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim.
Viewers are advised to make up their own mind about what they hear, especially if they don't understand German absolutely perfectly. The commentary is similar to many other war related propaganda films produced by biased USA "historians" for brainwashing future generations. The pot calling the kettle black.
It's not much use complaining over the contents of any documentary many years after it was produced. The best attitude is to be selective about what parts, if any, you accept as truth and what you reject as biased conjecture. Even the type of music producers use has a profound effect on how visual content comes across. I often switch off audio and make up my mind based on what the camera has captured. For other videos i.e. Nurnberg trials, just listen to the audio. At the end of the day it's a combination of parts of different videos and books which will give the best overall understanding of any historic event.
Fundamental divisions amongst totally confused viewers become obvious when reading the comments in this or any of the hundreds of similar war documentaries on YouTube. Most comments strings for WW2 videos inevitably turn into a war of words between pro and anti Zionists. Hare brain comments which are made purely for the sake of causing offence will be removed.
On November 12, 1938, Hermann Goering had told the German Cabinet that Hitler was going to suggest to the West the emigration of Jews to Madagascar. Hjalmar Schacht, Reichsbank president, during discussions in London, tried to procure an international loan to send the Jews to Madagascar (Germany would make a profit since the Jews would only be allowed to take their money out in German goods). In December 1939, Joachim von Ribbentrop, the German foreign minister, even included the emigration of Jews to Madagascar as part of a peace proposal to the pope.
Since Madagascar was still a French colony during these discussions, Germany had no way to enact their proposals without France's approval. Since Madagascar was in no position to support more than a few thousand people - the island would have become a ghetto for several million Jews with conditions of living worse than for Palestinian refugees in the Gaza strip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlSb4KnxD7Q
17 January 2017 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on James OReilly's post.
Strong family,
17 January 2017 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Remember taking part of EU projects about 7 years ago, where new Youth EU leaders was trained by games and activities to unite their national flags, then destroying them and replacing them with one pig pentagram circle.
(one simple plain one was where one side of large paper was your country flag and another side part of European Union - EU and then You bring your flags together and turn papers around ...
it was promoted as co-operation game, learning intercultural co-operation by various groups )
Similar crew: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3919176028091&set=t.1135161043&type=3&theater
But people all was exceptionally nice and great,
(one simple plain one was where one side of large paper was your country flag and another side part of European Union - EU and then You bring your flags together and turn papers around ...
it was promoted as co-operation game, learning intercultural co-operation by various groups )
Similar crew: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3919176028091&set=t.1135161043&type=3&theater
But people all was exceptionally nice and great,
17 January 2017 00:19
Margus Meigo replied to Meeme Murulauk's comment.
17 January 2017 00:02
Margus Meigo replied to Meeme Murulauk's comment.
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ja punaste Tyrklaste pärast viisnurgad sinna üldse pandi, algselt oli plaan kristlikum, ristiga
Kuid just värske uue liikmena, Tyrgi ainukesena selle vastu oli ja sellest ajast peale..16 January 2017 23:48
Margus Meigo replied to Meeme Murulauk's comment.
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õnneks on see muidugi 1. aprilli uudis
kuid mõte on neil reaalne16 January 2017 23:40
Margus Meigo replied to Meeme Murulauk's comment.
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Kui see lipu idee tagasi ei tõmmata on täiesti normaalne alustada sise terror rünnakuid nende asutuste vastu kes selle vastu said olla kui ei olnud.
Plaanid on selleks juba olemas, kahju, et selline pehmikute kamp kes esoteerika osas nii jobused on, et ei mõista mida see pentagrammidega tembeldamine tähendab, .. raha ka kunagi tuleb meil ümber printida
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16 January 2017 23:34
Margus Meigo replied to Meeme Murulauk's comment.
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olin ise mitmes EU projektis, kus EU noori liidreid opetati tegema rituaali oma lipu mahajätmiseks ja siis üheks Euroopaliidu lipuks kokku liituma
See oli juba u 7 aastat tagasi16 January 2017 23:24
Margus Meigo replied to Meeme Murulauk's comment.
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Marika M. Istahl see on ÜLI ÜLI ohtlik liigutus, see tuleb peatada, väga suure hinnaga.
Sest mõte on sellel ühine: viisnurgad lipule saada, nõiakunst, must maagia, ROoma-Greeka valitsused, pahad tulnukad... kommunistlikud impeeriumi plaanid.. ainult need inimesed kes node asjadega seotud ajavad sellist asja ja see on väga väga paha16 January 2017 23:24
Margus Meigo commented on Heidi Tamm's post.
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Riigiwapi osas, tasuks aga mõelda, et miks meil teiste riikide Vapp on ja kust ja miks see tulnud on16 January 2017 23:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but broken heart is only one that can get us so fast in to destruction of soul, so it is most harmful and dangerous one as broken heart and loosing a connection to a god is Near..
16 January 2017 18:11
Margus Meigo commented on Princess Kleopatra Euridike's post.
Nothing,
But all other pains can broke heart as well.
But all other pains can broke heart as well.
16 January 2017 18:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
January 7, 2016 — GIMPS celebrated its 20th anniversary with the discovery of the largest known prime number, 274,207,281-1. Curtis Cooper, one of many thousands of GIMPS volunteers, used one of his university's computers to make the find. The prime number, also known as M74207281, is calculated by multiplying together 74,207,281 twos then subtracting one. It has 22,338,618 digits -- almost 5 million digits longer than the previous record prime number.
While prime numbers are important for cryptography, this prime is too large to currently be of practical value. However, the search itself does have several practical benefits. Historically, searching for Mersenne primes has been used as a test for computer hardware. Earlier this month, GIMPS' prime95 software and members of a German computing community uncovered a flaw in Intel's latest Skylake CPUs. Prime95 has also discovered hardware problems in many individual's PCs.
http://www.mersenne.org/
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Florida, February 5, 2013 — On January 25th at 23:30:26 UTC, the largest known prime number, 257,885,161-1, was discovered on Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search (GIMPS) volunteer Curtis Cooper's computer. The new prime number, 2 multiplied by itself 57,885,161 times, less one, has 17,425,170 digits (warning: 8MB zip file). With 360,000 CPUs peaking at 150 trillion calculations per second, 17th-year GIMPS is the longest continuously-running global "grassroots supercomputing"[1] project in Internet history.
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For More Information on Mersenne Primes
Prime numbers have long fascinated amateur and professional mathematicians. An integer greater than one is called a prime number if its only divisors are one and itself. The first prime numbers are 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, etc. For example, the number 10 is not prime because it is divisible by 2 and 5. A Mersenne prime is a prime number of the form 2P-1. The first Mersenne primes are 3, 7, 31, and 127 corresponding to P = 2, 3, 5, and 7 respectively. There are only 48 known Mersenne primes.
Mersenne primes have been central to number theory since they were first discussed by Euclid in 350 BC. The man whose name they now bear, the French monk Marin Mersenne (1588-1648), made a famous conjecture on which values of P would yield a prime. It took 300 years and several important discoveries in mathematics to settle his conjecture.
Previous GIMPS Mersenne prime discoveries were made by members in various countries:
In April 2009, Odd Magnar Strindmo et al. discovered the 47th known Mersenne prime in Norway.
In September 2008, Hans-Michael Elvenich et al. discovered the 46th known Mersenne prime in Germany.
In August 2008, Edson Smith et al. discovered the 45th known Mersenne prime in the U.S.
In September 2006, Curtis Cooper and Steven Boone et al. discovered the 44th known Mersenne prime in the U.S.
In December 2005, Curtis Cooper and Steven Boone et al. discovered the 43rd known Mersenne prime in the U.S.
In February 2005, Dr. Martin Nowak et al. discovered the 42nd known Mersenne prime in Germany.
In May 2004, Josh Findley et al. discovered the 41st known Mersenne prime in the U.S.
In November 2003, Michael Shafer et al. discovered the 40th known Mersenne prime in the U.S.
In November 2001, Michael Cameron et al. discovered the 39th Mersenne prime in Canada.
In June 1999, Nayan Hajratwala et al. discovered the 38th Mersenne prime in the U.S.
In January 1998, Roland Clarkson et al. discovered the 37th Mersenne prime in the U.S.
In August 1997, Gordon Spence et al. discovered the 36th Mersenne prime in the U.K.
In November 1996, Joel Armengaud et al. discovered the 35th Mersenne prime in France.
There is a well-known formula that generates a "perfect" number from a Mersenne prime. A perfect number is one whose factors add up to the number itself. The smallest perfect number is 6 = 1 + 2 + 3. The newly discovered perfect number is 257,885,160 x (257,885,161-1). This number is over 34 million digits long!
There is a unique history to the arithmetic algorithms underlying the GIMPS project. The programs that found the recent big Mersenne finds are based on a special algorithm. In the early 1990's, the late Richard Crandall, Apple Distinguished Scientist, discovered ways to double the speed of what are called convolutions — essentially big multiplication operations. The method is applicable not only to prime searching but other aspects of computation. During that work he also patented the Fast Elliptic Encryption system, now owned by Apple Computer, which uses Mersenne primes to quickly encrypt and decrypt messages. George Woltman implemented Crandall's algorithm in assembly language, thereby producing a prime-search program of unprecedented efficiency, and that work led to the successful GIMPS project.
School teachers from elementary through high-school grades have used GIMPS to get their students excited about mathematics. Students who run the free software are contributing to mathematical research. Historically, searching for Mersenne primes has been used as a test for computer hardware. The free GIMPS program has identified hidden hardware problems in many PCs.
While prime numbers are important for cryptography, this prime is too large to currently be of practical value. However, the search itself does have several practical benefits. Historically, searching for Mersenne primes has been used as a test for computer hardware. Earlier this month, GIMPS' prime95 software and members of a German computing community uncovered a flaw in Intel's latest Skylake CPUs. Prime95 has also discovered hardware problems in many individual's PCs.
http://www.mersenne.org/
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Florida, February 5, 2013 — On January 25th at 23:30:26 UTC, the largest known prime number, 257,885,161-1, was discovered on Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search (GIMPS) volunteer Curtis Cooper's computer. The new prime number, 2 multiplied by itself 57,885,161 times, less one, has 17,425,170 digits (warning: 8MB zip file). With 360,000 CPUs peaking at 150 trillion calculations per second, 17th-year GIMPS is the longest continuously-running global "grassroots supercomputing"[1] project in Internet history.
--
For More Information on Mersenne Primes
Prime numbers have long fascinated amateur and professional mathematicians. An integer greater than one is called a prime number if its only divisors are one and itself. The first prime numbers are 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, etc. For example, the number 10 is not prime because it is divisible by 2 and 5. A Mersenne prime is a prime number of the form 2P-1. The first Mersenne primes are 3, 7, 31, and 127 corresponding to P = 2, 3, 5, and 7 respectively. There are only 48 known Mersenne primes.
Mersenne primes have been central to number theory since they were first discussed by Euclid in 350 BC. The man whose name they now bear, the French monk Marin Mersenne (1588-1648), made a famous conjecture on which values of P would yield a prime. It took 300 years and several important discoveries in mathematics to settle his conjecture.
Previous GIMPS Mersenne prime discoveries were made by members in various countries:
In April 2009, Odd Magnar Strindmo et al. discovered the 47th known Mersenne prime in Norway.
In September 2008, Hans-Michael Elvenich et al. discovered the 46th known Mersenne prime in Germany.
In August 2008, Edson Smith et al. discovered the 45th known Mersenne prime in the U.S.
In September 2006, Curtis Cooper and Steven Boone et al. discovered the 44th known Mersenne prime in the U.S.
In December 2005, Curtis Cooper and Steven Boone et al. discovered the 43rd known Mersenne prime in the U.S.
In February 2005, Dr. Martin Nowak et al. discovered the 42nd known Mersenne prime in Germany.
In May 2004, Josh Findley et al. discovered the 41st known Mersenne prime in the U.S.
In November 2003, Michael Shafer et al. discovered the 40th known Mersenne prime in the U.S.
In November 2001, Michael Cameron et al. discovered the 39th Mersenne prime in Canada.
In June 1999, Nayan Hajratwala et al. discovered the 38th Mersenne prime in the U.S.
In January 1998, Roland Clarkson et al. discovered the 37th Mersenne prime in the U.S.
In August 1997, Gordon Spence et al. discovered the 36th Mersenne prime in the U.K.
In November 1996, Joel Armengaud et al. discovered the 35th Mersenne prime in France.
There is a well-known formula that generates a "perfect" number from a Mersenne prime. A perfect number is one whose factors add up to the number itself. The smallest perfect number is 6 = 1 + 2 + 3. The newly discovered perfect number is 257,885,160 x (257,885,161-1). This number is over 34 million digits long!
There is a unique history to the arithmetic algorithms underlying the GIMPS project. The programs that found the recent big Mersenne finds are based on a special algorithm. In the early 1990's, the late Richard Crandall, Apple Distinguished Scientist, discovered ways to double the speed of what are called convolutions — essentially big multiplication operations. The method is applicable not only to prime searching but other aspects of computation. During that work he also patented the Fast Elliptic Encryption system, now owned by Apple Computer, which uses Mersenne primes to quickly encrypt and decrypt messages. George Woltman implemented Crandall's algorithm in assembly language, thereby producing a prime-search program of unprecedented efficiency, and that work led to the successful GIMPS project.
School teachers from elementary through high-school grades have used GIMPS to get their students excited about mathematics. Students who run the free software are contributing to mathematical research. Historically, searching for Mersenne primes has been used as a test for computer hardware. The free GIMPS program has identified hidden hardware problems in many PCs.
http://www.mersenne.org/
16 January 2017 06:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just wondering how these calculations look in 12 years..
16 January 2017 06:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
12.1 Trillion Digits of Pi
And we're out of disk space...
By Alexander J. Yee & Shigeru Kondo
(Last updated: September 22, 2016)
It's been 2 years since our last computation and it didn't look like anyone else was attempting to beat it. So we thought we'd see how much better we could do with improved software and two extra years of Moore's Law on computer hardware.
We didn't go for 20 trillion digits because of the massive space requirements. Instead we went for a "small and fast" computation of only 12.1 trillion digits.
http://www.numberworld.org/misc_runs/pi-12t/
Unlike the grueling 371 days that was needed for our previous computation of 10 trilllion digits, this time we were able to beat it in about 94 days.
The computation was interrupted 5 times - all due to hard drive errors. Furthermore, a bug was discovered in the software which had to be fixed before the computation could be continued.
Memory Statistics:
60.2 TiB of disk was needed to perform the computation.
9.20 TiB of disk was needed to store the compressed digit output.
More disk space was needed to make backups of the checkpoints.
TiB = 240 bytes
Computation Statistics:
Algorithm: Chudnovsky Formula
Time: 94 days
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Processor:
2 x Intel Xeon E5-2690 @ 2.9 GHz - (16 physical cores, 32 hyperthreaded)
Memory:
128 GB DDR3 @ 1600 MHz - 8 x 16 GB - 8 channels)
Motherboard:
Asus Z9PE-D8
Hard Drives:
Boot: 1 TB
Pi Output: 4 x 3 TB
Computation: 24 x 3 TB
Backup: 4 x 3 TB
Operating System:
Windows Server 2012 x64
And we're out of disk space...
By Alexander J. Yee & Shigeru Kondo
(Last updated: September 22, 2016)
It's been 2 years since our last computation and it didn't look like anyone else was attempting to beat it. So we thought we'd see how much better we could do with improved software and two extra years of Moore's Law on computer hardware.
We didn't go for 20 trillion digits because of the massive space requirements. Instead we went for a "small and fast" computation of only 12.1 trillion digits.
http://www.numberworld.org/misc_runs/pi-12t/
Unlike the grueling 371 days that was needed for our previous computation of 10 trilllion digits, this time we were able to beat it in about 94 days.
The computation was interrupted 5 times - all due to hard drive errors. Furthermore, a bug was discovered in the software which had to be fixed before the computation could be continued.
Memory Statistics:
60.2 TiB of disk was needed to perform the computation.
9.20 TiB of disk was needed to store the compressed digit output.
More disk space was needed to make backups of the checkpoints.
TiB = 240 bytes
Computation Statistics:
Algorithm: Chudnovsky Formula
Time: 94 days
----------
Processor:
2 x Intel Xeon E5-2690 @ 2.9 GHz - (16 physical cores, 32 hyperthreaded)
Memory:
128 GB DDR3 @ 1600 MHz - 8 x 16 GB - 8 channels)
Motherboard:
Asus Z9PE-D8
Hard Drives:
Boot: 1 TB
Pi Output: 4 x 3 TB
Computation: 24 x 3 TB
Backup: 4 x 3 TB
Operating System:
Windows Server 2012 x64
http://www.numberworld.org/misc_runs/pi-12t/
16 January 2017 06:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
y-cruncher BBP is a miniature side-project to y-cruncher - Multi-Threaded Pi-Program.
As its name suggests it implements the BBP digit-extraction algorithm for computing binary and hexadecimal digits of Pi.
Since this is an embarrasingly parallel algorithm, this app is perfectly threaded and is bound only by CPU power. Therefore, it should scale linearly with multi-core. (barring the effects of Turbo Boost and similar technologies)
The original version of y-cruncher BBP was written in April 2010 for the sole purpose of verifying the world record of 5 trillion digits of Pi (August 2010). This first version has served its purpose and is no longer maintained. It has been superseded with an improved version that is now integrated into y-cruncher itself.
http://www.numberworld.org/programs/#ycruncher_BBP
As its name suggests it implements the BBP digit-extraction algorithm for computing binary and hexadecimal digits of Pi.
Since this is an embarrasingly parallel algorithm, this app is perfectly threaded and is bound only by CPU power. Therefore, it should scale linearly with multi-core. (barring the effects of Turbo Boost and similar technologies)
The original version of y-cruncher BBP was written in April 2010 for the sole purpose of verifying the world record of 5 trillion digits of Pi (August 2010). This first version has served its purpose and is no longer maintained. It has been superseded with an improved version that is now integrated into y-cruncher itself.
http://www.numberworld.org/programs/#ycruncher_BBP
http://www.numberworld.org/programs/#ycruncher_BBP
16 January 2017 06:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.numberworld.org/y-cruncher/
y-cruncher is a program that can compute Pi and other constants to trillions of digits.
It is the first of its kind that is multi-threaded and scalable to multi-core systems. Ever since its launch in 2009, it has become a common benchmarking and stress-testing application for overclockers and hardware enthusiasts.
y-cruncher has been used to set several world records for the most digits of Pi ever computed.
22.4 trillion digits - November 2016 (Peter Trueb http://www.pi2e.ch/)
13.3 trillion digits - October 2014 ("houkouonchi")
12.1 trillion digits - December 2013 (Shigeru Kondo)
10 trillion digits - October 2011 (Shigeru Kondo)
5 trillion digits - August 2010 (Shigeru Kondo)
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Computation
Accuracy
22 459 157 718 361 decimal digits
18 651 926 753 033 hexadecimal digits
y-cruncher is a program that can compute Pi and other constants to trillions of digits.
It is the first of its kind that is multi-threaded and scalable to multi-core systems. Ever since its launch in 2009, it has become a common benchmarking and stress-testing application for overclockers and hardware enthusiasts.
y-cruncher has been used to set several world records for the most digits of Pi ever computed.
22.4 trillion digits - November 2016 (Peter Trueb http://www.pi2e.ch/)
13.3 trillion digits - October 2014 ("houkouonchi")
12.1 trillion digits - December 2013 (Shigeru Kondo)
10 trillion digits - October 2011 (Shigeru Kondo)
5 trillion digits - August 2010 (Shigeru Kondo)
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Computation
Accuracy
22 459 157 718 361 decimal digits
18 651 926 753 033 hexadecimal digits
16 January 2017 06:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Software for Computation:
The program that was used for the main computation is y-cruncher v0.5.5.
Multiple builds were used between the different times that the computation was interrupted.
See main page: y-cruncher - A Multi-Threaded Pi Program
Version v0.5.5 is virtually identical to v0.5.4 as it consists only of a few bug fixes and adds a few improvements that are irrelevant to this computation.
Originally, our plan was to use v0.6.1 which is expected to be a significantly faster than v0.5.5. However, it was never completed in time for this computation. (and it still isn't complete...)
Software for Verification:
The program that was used for the verification is y-cruncher BBP v1.0.119.
See main page: y-cruncher BBP
This is the exact same binary that we used to verify our previous computation. There have been no changes at all.
This program implements the digit-extraction algorithm for Pi using the BBP formulas. It's sole purpose was to verify the main computation.
Both programs are written by me (Alexander J. Yee) and are available for download from their respective pages.
http://www.numberworld.org/misc_runs/pi-10t/details.html
The program that was used for the main computation is y-cruncher v0.5.5.
Multiple builds were used between the different times that the computation was interrupted.
See main page: y-cruncher - A Multi-Threaded Pi Program
Version v0.5.5 is virtually identical to v0.5.4 as it consists only of a few bug fixes and adds a few improvements that are irrelevant to this computation.
Originally, our plan was to use v0.6.1 which is expected to be a significantly faster than v0.5.5. However, it was never completed in time for this computation. (and it still isn't complete...)
Software for Verification:
The program that was used for the verification is y-cruncher BBP v1.0.119.
See main page: y-cruncher BBP
This is the exact same binary that we used to verify our previous computation. There have been no changes at all.
This program implements the digit-extraction algorithm for Pi using the BBP formulas. It's sole purpose was to verify the main computation.
Both programs are written by me (Alexander J. Yee) and are available for download from their respective pages.
http://www.numberworld.org/misc_runs/pi-10t/details.html
http://www.numberworld.org/misc_runs/pi-10t/details.html
16 January 2017 06:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
How many trillions:
"or extremely long-running computations, it is necessary to consider the possibility of computation errors.
Even on stable and non-overclocked hardware, there is a non-negligible chance of a hardware error if it is put under stress for an extended period of time.
For better or worse, highly-optimized programs have a tendency to be extremely stressful to the hardware. y-cruncher is no exception. It is known to produce more heat than both Linpack and Prime95 on the Intel Nehalem-based processors when HyperThreading Technology is enabled. (Which is exactly what we used.)
(Linpack and Prime95 are very popular programs for stress-testing.)
So in some sense, the performance brought on by extreme optimization is a double-edged sword that must be dealt with. But of course, it is always better to avoid the errors in the first place, so extra care must be taken when building hardware that will run y-cruncher for extended periods of time.
Both Shigeru Kondo and myself have both experienced hardware related computational errors even on non-overclocked hardware. Between the two of us we get about one error for every 4 weeks of 100% CPU utilization (from y-cruncher) on our non-overclocked dual-socket machines. This comes to about 1 error for every 1017 operations. For a computation that would last much longer than that, there would be a significant chance of an error. And this was indeed the case.
At just a mere 8 days into the computation, a hardware error occured. Fortunately, the error-detection was able to catch the error. The error was unrecoverable so the computation was terminated and restarted from the previous checkpoint. The total time lost was about 1 day.
Had there been no error-detection, this error would have propagated to the final result and resulted in incorrect digits.
*Our observed error rate of 1 per 1017 operations seems unusually high for non-overclocked hardware. Whether it is coincidence, overheating, or simply an overly stressful load from y-cruncher, we have yet to find an explanation for this.
The error-detection and correction that y-cruncher uses is a simple "Automatic Repeat Request" model.
Litter the entire program with redundancy checks.
If an error is detected, repeat the operation that failed.
If the operation cannot be repeated, then roll-back to the last save point.
Although several different methods of error-detection were used, only one was predominant - the Modular Hash Check.
Modular Hash Check
The Modular Hash Check is a very simple (and well-known) redundancy check that uses number-theory to verify the correctness of any operation that is closed under the modular-ring.
http://www.numberworld.org/misc_runs/pi-5t/details.html
"or extremely long-running computations, it is necessary to consider the possibility of computation errors.
Even on stable and non-overclocked hardware, there is a non-negligible chance of a hardware error if it is put under stress for an extended period of time.
For better or worse, highly-optimized programs have a tendency to be extremely stressful to the hardware. y-cruncher is no exception. It is known to produce more heat than both Linpack and Prime95 on the Intel Nehalem-based processors when HyperThreading Technology is enabled. (Which is exactly what we used.)
(Linpack and Prime95 are very popular programs for stress-testing.)
So in some sense, the performance brought on by extreme optimization is a double-edged sword that must be dealt with. But of course, it is always better to avoid the errors in the first place, so extra care must be taken when building hardware that will run y-cruncher for extended periods of time.
Both Shigeru Kondo and myself have both experienced hardware related computational errors even on non-overclocked hardware. Between the two of us we get about one error for every 4 weeks of 100% CPU utilization (from y-cruncher) on our non-overclocked dual-socket machines. This comes to about 1 error for every 1017 operations. For a computation that would last much longer than that, there would be a significant chance of an error. And this was indeed the case.
At just a mere 8 days into the computation, a hardware error occured. Fortunately, the error-detection was able to catch the error. The error was unrecoverable so the computation was terminated and restarted from the previous checkpoint. The total time lost was about 1 day.
Had there been no error-detection, this error would have propagated to the final result and resulted in incorrect digits.
*Our observed error rate of 1 per 1017 operations seems unusually high for non-overclocked hardware. Whether it is coincidence, overheating, or simply an overly stressful load from y-cruncher, we have yet to find an explanation for this.
The error-detection and correction that y-cruncher uses is a simple "Automatic Repeat Request" model.
Litter the entire program with redundancy checks.
If an error is detected, repeat the operation that failed.
If the operation cannot be repeated, then roll-back to the last save point.
Although several different methods of error-detection were used, only one was predominant - the Modular Hash Check.
Modular Hash Check
The Modular Hash Check is a very simple (and well-known) redundancy check that uses number-theory to verify the correctness of any operation that is closed under the modular-ring.
http://www.numberworld.org/misc_runs/pi-5t/details.html
16 January 2017 06:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
more
http://www.mathportal.org/calculators.php
http://www.mathportal.org/calculators.php
http://www.mathportal.org/calculators.php
16 January 2017 06:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Calcs
http://keisan.casio.com/calculator
http://comptune.com/calc.php
soft: http://gc3.net84.net/bcalc.php
http://keisan.casio.com/calculator
http://comptune.com/calc.php
soft: http://gc3.net84.net/bcalc.php
http://keisan.casio.com/calculator
16 January 2017 06:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So how much is these times another one of these..
pi = 3.1415 ...
e = 2.718 ...
Euler's constant, gamma = 0.577215 ... = lim n -> infinity > (1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + ... + 1/n - ln(n)) (Not proven to be transcendental, but generally believed to be by mathematicians.)
Catalan's constant, G = sum (-1)^k / (2k + 1 )^2 = 1 - 1/9 + 1/25 - 1/49 + ... (Not proven to be transcendental, but generally believed to be by mathematicians.)
Liouville's number 0.110001000000000000000001000 ... which has a one in the 1st, 2nd, 6th, 24th, etc. places and zeros elsewhere.
Chaitin's "constant", the probability that a random algorithm halts. (Noam Elkies of Harvard notes that not only is this number transcendental but it is also incomputable.)
Chapernowne's number, 0.12345678910111213141516171819202122232425... This is constructed by concatenating the digits of the positive integers. (Can you see the pattern?)
Special values of the zeta function, such as zeta (3). (Transcendental functions can usually be expected to give transcendental results at rational points.)
ln(2).
Hilbert's number, 2(sqrt 2 ). (This is called Hilbert's number because the proof of whether or not it is transcendental was one of Hilbert's famous problems. In fact, according to the Gelfond-Schneider theorem, any number of the form ab is transcendental where a and b are algebraic (a ne 0, a ne 1 ) and b is not a rational number. Many trigonometric or hyperbolic functions of non-zero algebraic numbers are transcendental.)
epi
pie (Not proven to be transcendental, but generally believed to be by mathematicians.)
Morse-Thue's number, 0.01101001 ...
ii = 0.207879576... (Here i is the imaginary number sqrt(-1). Isn't this a real beauty? How many people have actually considered rasing i to the i power? If a is algebraic and b is algebraic but irrational then ab is transcendental. Since i is algebraic but irrational, the theorem applies. Note also: ii is equal to e(- pi / 2 ) and several other values. Consider ii = e(i log i ) = e( i times i pi / 2 ) . Since log is multivalued, there are other possible values for ii.
Here is how you can compute the value of ii = 0.207879576...
1. Since e^(ix) = Cos x + i Sin x, then let x = Pi/2.
2. Then e^(iPi/2) = i = Cos Pi/2 + i Sin Pi/2; since Cos Pi/2 = Cos 90 deg. = 0. But Sin 90 = 1 and i Sin 90 deg. = (i)*(1) = i.
3. Therefore e^(iPi/2) = i.
4. Take the ith power of both sides, the right side being i^i and the left side = [e^(iPi/2)]^i = e^(-Pi/2).
5. Therefore i^i = e^(-Pi/2) = .207879576...
Feigenbaum numbers, e.g. 4.669 ... . (These are related to properties of dynamical systems with period-doubling. The ratio of successive differences between period-doubling bifurcation parameters approaches the number 4.669 ... , and it has been discovered in many physical systems before they enter the chaotic regime. It has not been proven to be transcendental, but is generally believed to be.)
Keith Briggs from the Mathematics Department of the University of Melbourne in Australia computed what he believes to be the world-record for the number of digits for the Feigenbaum number:
4. 669201609102990671853203820466201617258185577475768632745651 343004134330211314737138689744023948013817165984855189815134 408627142027932522312442988890890859944935463236713411532481 714219947455644365823793202009561058330575458617652222070385 410646749494284981453391726200568755665952339875603825637225
Briggs carried out the computation using special-purpose software d
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickoveR/trans.html
pi = 3.1415 ...
e = 2.718 ...
Euler's constant, gamma = 0.577215 ... = lim n -> infinity > (1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + ... + 1/n - ln(n)) (Not proven to be transcendental, but generally believed to be by mathematicians.)
Catalan's constant, G = sum (-1)^k / (2k + 1 )^2 = 1 - 1/9 + 1/25 - 1/49 + ... (Not proven to be transcendental, but generally believed to be by mathematicians.)
Liouville's number 0.110001000000000000000001000 ... which has a one in the 1st, 2nd, 6th, 24th, etc. places and zeros elsewhere.
Chaitin's "constant", the probability that a random algorithm halts. (Noam Elkies of Harvard notes that not only is this number transcendental but it is also incomputable.)
Chapernowne's number, 0.12345678910111213141516171819202122232425... This is constructed by concatenating the digits of the positive integers. (Can you see the pattern?)
Special values of the zeta function, such as zeta (3). (Transcendental functions can usually be expected to give transcendental results at rational points.)
ln(2).
Hilbert's number, 2(sqrt 2 ). (This is called Hilbert's number because the proof of whether or not it is transcendental was one of Hilbert's famous problems. In fact, according to the Gelfond-Schneider theorem, any number of the form ab is transcendental where a and b are algebraic (a ne 0, a ne 1 ) and b is not a rational number. Many trigonometric or hyperbolic functions of non-zero algebraic numbers are transcendental.)
epi
pie (Not proven to be transcendental, but generally believed to be by mathematicians.)
Morse-Thue's number, 0.01101001 ...
ii = 0.207879576... (Here i is the imaginary number sqrt(-1). Isn't this a real beauty? How many people have actually considered rasing i to the i power? If a is algebraic and b is algebraic but irrational then ab is transcendental. Since i is algebraic but irrational, the theorem applies. Note also: ii is equal to e(- pi / 2 ) and several other values. Consider ii = e(i log i ) = e( i times i pi / 2 ) . Since log is multivalued, there are other possible values for ii.
Here is how you can compute the value of ii = 0.207879576...
1. Since e^(ix) = Cos x + i Sin x, then let x = Pi/2.
2. Then e^(iPi/2) = i = Cos Pi/2 + i Sin Pi/2; since Cos Pi/2 = Cos 90 deg. = 0. But Sin 90 = 1 and i Sin 90 deg. = (i)*(1) = i.
3. Therefore e^(iPi/2) = i.
4. Take the ith power of both sides, the right side being i^i and the left side = [e^(iPi/2)]^i = e^(-Pi/2).
5. Therefore i^i = e^(-Pi/2) = .207879576...
Feigenbaum numbers, e.g. 4.669 ... . (These are related to properties of dynamical systems with period-doubling. The ratio of successive differences between period-doubling bifurcation parameters approaches the number 4.669 ... , and it has been discovered in many physical systems before they enter the chaotic regime. It has not been proven to be transcendental, but is generally believed to be.)
Keith Briggs from the Mathematics Department of the University of Melbourne in Australia computed what he believes to be the world-record for the number of digits for the Feigenbaum number:
4. 669201609102990671853203820466201617258185577475768632745651 343004134330211314737138689744023948013817165984855189815134 408627142027932522312442988890890859944935463236713411532481 714219947455644365823793202009561058330575458617652222070385 410646749494284981453391726200568755665952339875603825637225
Briggs carried out the computation using special-purpose software d
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickoveR/trans.html
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickoveR/trans.html
16 January 2017 05:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Many mathematicians did not do the same. Famous mathematicians such as L. E. J. Brouwer, Per Martin-Löf, Errett Bishop, Ludwig Wittgenstein, Henri Poincaré, Carl Friedrich Gauss and Leopold Kronecker didn't believe infinity existed. Many others such as Bertrand Russell doubted the existence of infinity in various forms and fought against the axioms of the mainstream mathematical community which were in flux at that time. Once, the existence of infinity was one of the biggest debates in the mathematical community.
But now the idea that infinity might not exist is pretty radical. Sad - because one of the best thing to learn about infinity is that believing in it is a choice - a choice that has been made differently by many different interesting and thoughtful people. And, like all the best bits of maths, thinking about the consequences of such a fundamental choice can be pretty fun.
http://theorangeduck.com/page/infinity-doesnt-exist
But now the idea that infinity might not exist is pretty radical. Sad - because one of the best thing to learn about infinity is that believing in it is a choice - a choice that has been made differently by many different interesting and thoughtful people. And, like all the best bits of maths, thinking about the consequences of such a fundamental choice can be pretty fun.
http://theorangeduck.com/page/infinity-doesnt-exist
http://theorangeduck.com/page/infinity-doesnt-exist
16 January 2017 05:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
if you can not do any other way, border between "Infinite loop" then make +´- something between when measurement stops as it is starting to be back in where it was
16 January 2017 05:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov ei nu kristlusega just see mure,et see kõige enam p2p sarnane, et meeletult eri gruppe kes täeisti üksteise vastaste veendumustega, alates sellest, et Paavst või Kuninganna on Jeesuse asetäitja kuni ta tagasitulekuni kuni sinnamaani, et ta Jeesuse vastane on.
Ma ise muidu kaldun arvama, et Jeesus ise kristluse vastane on kuid ma nagunii suts omamoodi, veel
siin on mõned üksikud, kümnetest tuhandetest, mõnes üle tuhande aastate vanustes gruppides on ainult mõnisada inimest...
Lisaks sama grupisees, kirikute enda vahel on vahest sellised kammajaad et nad üksteise kirikud maha põletaks, kui mune oleks ja pealehakkamist ning organiseerimise võimet ja usku
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations
Ma ise muidu kaldun arvama, et Jeesus ise kristluse vastane on kuid ma nagunii suts omamoodi, veel
siin on mõned üksikud, kümnetest tuhandetest, mõnes üle tuhande aastate vanustes gruppides on ainult mõnisada inimest...
Lisaks sama grupisees, kirikute enda vahel on vahest sellised kammajaad et nad üksteise kirikud maha põletaks, kui mune oleks ja pealehakkamist ning organiseerimise võimet ja usku
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations
16 January 2017 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kuid sellepärast ongy, juba rohkem kui poole kümnendi pikkune plaan, ei midagi vähemat teha... (enne seda oli see lihtsalt unistus, kuni mõistus tuli koju, andes teada, et reaalselt on võimlaik ka. ainult vajadusi vaja õigesti siduda ja kõiki natuke aidates, paremaks.. vaikselt nagu õhumull vees pinnale tõusta).
Kuid eks näis eks näis saab palju või ei mitte midagi, kuid midagi vähemat kui paljut pole ka suurt mõtet mõelda
Kuid eks näis eks näis saab palju või ei mitte midagi, kuid midagi vähemat kui paljut pole ka suurt mõtet mõelda
16 January 2017 02:34
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
jep jand lets not forget Disneyland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXBJIZ1NXFU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXBJIZ1NXFU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXBJIZ1NXFU
16 January 2017 02:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
peaasi, et puhas on
ja ma kogu aja öelnud, ma armastan rasse, rasside eristamisi, rasside, rassismi vastastest ma aru eritiei saa, kus nende loogika on
ja ma kogu aja öelnud, ma armastan rasse, rasside eristamisi, rasside, rassismi vastastest ma aru eritiei saa, kus nende loogika on
16 January 2017 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
16 January 2017 02:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
16 January 2017 02:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
other notes:
Searches: Asian Videos - 255,535 Result /
Japanese Videos - 116,681
Russian Videos - 112,128 Results /
german 55,010 Results /
British Videos - 51,897 /
American Videos - 13,772 Results /
USA - 2,699 Results (from what 2,124 are "russia usa" ..)
Most of the other country's including Chinese, give around 2000 results.
Showing, that Russia and Japan have managed to sale of their women best or market them for sex.
Even German and British do some what well.
America, no so much of a sex label it self.
Searches: Asian Videos - 255,535 Result /
Japanese Videos - 116,681
Russian Videos - 112,128 Results /
german 55,010 Results /
British Videos - 51,897 /
American Videos - 13,772 Results /
USA - 2,699 Results (from what 2,124 are "russia usa" ..)
Most of the other country's including Chinese, give around 2000 results.
Showing, that Russia and Japan have managed to sale of their women best or market them for sex.
Even German and British do some what well.
America, no so much of a sex label it self.
16 January 2017 02:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
16 January 2017 01:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and this is from where you can find one of the most...
and yes.. FB does not allow to post it.. thinking, it is unsafe: www.pornMD .com
and yes.. FB does not allow to post it.. thinking, it is unsafe: www.pornMD .com
16 January 2017 01:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
//Great, this is how nice their Search engine looks like, gotta Love them!
"In March 2013 PornMD launched an interactive map which allows users to view the top 10 searches on PornMD for any selected country, ] and in February 2014 they introduced a live feed which shows search terms inputted by users in real time"
"In March 2013 PornMD launched an interactive map which allows users to view the top 10 searches on PornMD for any selected country, ] and in February 2014 they introduced a live feed which shows search terms inputted by users in real time"
16 January 2017 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nestle
Well, to be honest i got nothing against mega owning, in fact i admire this, more easy to turn world right it global mass products are owned by same people.
In my plan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nestl%C3%A9_brands
Well, to be honest i got nothing against mega owning, in fact i admire this, more easy to turn world right it global mass products are owned by same people.
In my plan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nestl%C3%A9_brands
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nestl%C3%A9_brands
16 January 2017 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The traffic the tubes can direct towards pay sites means that their relationship has evolved from hostility to close, if grudging, co-operation. More and more content producers are signing deals to let their stuff appear on tubes: if a viewer clicks through to the originating site and subscribes, the tube will get a cut, sometimes as much as 50%. Since tubes get so many visitors, the bargain may be worthwhile for pay sites even if only one in 1,000 of them decides to subscribe. But the tubes are by far the bigger winners, getting not only commissions but more videos, which in turn drive up their traffic and ad rates. The model has been likened to a “vampiric ecosystem” in which Mindgeek and the other tube sites feed on pay sites, sucking their profitability.
All this will sound painfully familiar to other media firms. Echoing the aggregation deals struck by the tubes with commercial porn producers, social-media sites are starting not just to link to content, but to host it. Snapchat, a messaging app that lets users send each other photos and videos that vanish after a few seconds, allows news outlets to publish articles on its service in return for a share of advertising revenue. Facebook is doing something similar with its Instant Articles service. Indeed, Facebook, Twitter and their like have essentially evolved into traffic-brokers. Many of the clicks they pass on come from links posted by users. But the number of ads, promoted posts and suchlike is growing.
Some pornographers hope to escape the tubes’ embrace by going beyond the standard skin flick. One approach is to connect the real and virtual worlds by offering live performances via webcams. A client might pay $4 a minute for a personal performance, half that if others are watching. Performers get a cut, typically 25%. Such “cam” sites are among the biggest advertisers on the tubes. "
All this will sound painfully familiar to other media firms. Echoing the aggregation deals struck by the tubes with commercial porn producers, social-media sites are starting not just to link to content, but to host it. Snapchat, a messaging app that lets users send each other photos and videos that vanish after a few seconds, allows news outlets to publish articles on its service in return for a share of advertising revenue. Facebook is doing something similar with its Instant Articles service. Indeed, Facebook, Twitter and their like have essentially evolved into traffic-brokers. Many of the clicks they pass on come from links posted by users. But the number of ads, promoted posts and suchlike is growing.
Some pornographers hope to escape the tubes’ embrace by going beyond the standard skin flick. One approach is to connect the real and virtual worlds by offering live performances via webcams. A client might pay $4 a minute for a personal performance, half that if others are watching. Performers get a cut, typically 25%. Such “cam” sites are among the biggest advertisers on the tubes. "
16 January 2017 01:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
FSB (Russia) search most often about anal sex, as this is known hidden think in psyche, india looks Wife's as more normal kind of people, UK and US, Australia are in to lesbian, germany, canda,mexico,argetina and Brazil in to teenagers
netherlands, italy, sweden are in to MILF (sexy mothers).. France in to brunettes and Egypt, looks in to mommy's, literally "mom" as most search term.
Well, would want all the other sites statistics combined.. this would give some really nice sexual manipulation and psychological information about country state of mind ...
Well.. not as this would be used for that..
// and stop this crap about looking anal is normal, no it is not... even if someone by mistake is experienced this with a women then after someone will call You out on this black-magic, has hidden psychological tings.. you must realize, it is perverse
netherlands, italy, sweden are in to MILF (sexy mothers).. France in to brunettes and Egypt, looks in to mommy's, literally "mom" as most search term.
Well, would want all the other sites statistics combined.. this would give some really nice sexual manipulation and psychological information about country state of mind ...
Well.. not as this would be used for that..
// and stop this crap about looking anal is normal, no it is not... even if someone by mistake is experienced this with a women then after someone will call You out on this black-magic, has hidden psychological tings.. you must realize, it is perverse
16 January 2017 01:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"With most porn on the internet now free and easy to find, the number of adult sites, and traffic to them, have exploded. The web boasts an estimated 700m-800m individual porn pages, three-fifths in America. PornHub, Mindgeek’s biggest tube, claims to have had nearly 80 billion video viewings last year, and more than 18 billion visits (see chart). In terms of traffic and bandwidth, Mindgeek is now one of the world’s biggest online operators in ANY industry."
http://www.economist.com/news/international/21666114-internet-blew-porn-industrys-business-model-apart-its-response-holds-lessons
http://www.economist.com/news/international/21666114-internet-blew-porn-industrys-business-model-apart-its-response-holds-lessons
http://www.economist.com/news/international/21666114-internet-blew-porn-industrys-business-model-apart-its-response-holds-lessons
16 January 2017 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Making: rocky mountain oysters video ! //Jep, Veggans, u dig this one
1. Step one: wash your balls!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIqGFYxjykU
1. Step one: wash your balls!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIqGFYxjykU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIqGFYxjykU
16 January 2017 00:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Some even made in to news:
"The item is listed on the menu as "Rocky Mountain oysters," however, if one thinks about it, the chance of finding oysters in the Rocky Mountains – or any mountains – is slim to none.
So what the hay is this new fair fare?
"Bulls' testicles," says Big Sky co-owner Eric Wrigley Schroeder.
https://onmilwaukee.com/seasonal/festivals/articles/bulltesticles.html
"The item is listed on the menu as "Rocky Mountain oysters," however, if one thinks about it, the chance of finding oysters in the Rocky Mountains – or any mountains – is slim to none.
So what the hay is this new fair fare?
"Bulls' testicles," says Big Sky co-owner Eric Wrigley Schroeder.
https://onmilwaukee.com/seasonal/festivals/articles/bulltesticles.html
https://onmilwaukee.com/seasonal/festivals/articles/bulltesticles.html
16 January 2017 00:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//a lot of recopies in internet, about deep fried oyster, but some are honest ones:
Question: How are rocky mountain oysters made?
Answer: From start to finish, here are generic steps to make the classic rocky mountain oysters:
Get some balls.
Cut a slit in the skin-like muscle surrounding each testicle and remove the skin.
Once peeled, give the balls a bath. Soak the balls in either salt water, beer, milk, or vinegar mixture for a couple of hours.
Slice, pound, or leave the balls whole.
Season and bread the balls.
Deep-fry the balls for a few minutes.
Eat some balls!
https://foodmeomaha.wordpress.com/tag/rocky-mountain-oysters/
Question: How are rocky mountain oysters made?
Answer: From start to finish, here are generic steps to make the classic rocky mountain oysters:
Get some balls.
Cut a slit in the skin-like muscle surrounding each testicle and remove the skin.
Once peeled, give the balls a bath. Soak the balls in either salt water, beer, milk, or vinegar mixture for a couple of hours.
Slice, pound, or leave the balls whole.
Season and bread the balls.
Deep-fry the balls for a few minutes.
Eat some balls!
https://foodmeomaha.wordpress.com/tag/rocky-mountain-oysters/
https://foodmeomaha.wordpress.com/tag/rocky-mountain-oysters/
16 January 2017 00:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this one was the safest fake:
"..Rocky Mountain oysters, also known as prairie oysters in Canada, is a dish made of bull, pig or sheep testicles. The organs are often deep-fried after being peeled, coated in flour, pepper and salt, and sometimes pounded flat. This delicacy is most often served as an appetizer[1] with a cocktail ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Mountain_oysters
"..Rocky Mountain oysters, also known as prairie oysters in Canada, is a dish made of bull, pig or sheep testicles. The organs are often deep-fried after being peeled, coated in flour, pepper and salt, and sometimes pounded flat. This delicacy is most often served as an appetizer[1] with a cocktail ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Mountain_oysters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Mountain_oysters
16 January 2017 00:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More truth about fake food and lies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lu7qzD2xb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lu7qzD2xb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lu7qzD2xb8
16 January 2017 00:33
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
weider kuidas inimesed tihti ütlevad midagi kuid tegelikult ei ütle midagi, sest ei selgita otsa mida ja miks nad nii ütlesid, et vähegi arengut edasi viivat diskusiooni tekiks
15 January 2017 23:53
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ka see, on Sinu mätta otsast
selgita
selgita
15 January 2017 23:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Future information Office ( F.i.O ) Agency
Where is the city?
It is far from easy to win in this game. As the name of this game is the Big War. Nevertheless, when the Great War comes, it can only be avoided by slavery and deliberate recognition as a loser. Russian history has had no such moments. As much as it may seem difficult, somehow Russians coped with it.
We are not talking just about the geopolitical confrontation, but about the redistribution of influential spheres or the fulfillment of national interests. It is about something much deeper and more important.
All religions have a section dealing with the end of time and the final battle. The Christians, as well as the Jews and the Muslims, associate the events of the cycle with the Big War. Moreover, invariably all three religions describe the Middle East as the place of the Great War, as the field of Armageddon and the neighboring territories. For the Muslims, Damascus, the Umayyad Mosque, is considered to be the place where the Second Coming of Christ is to be held. Therefore, the war in Syria has frankly an eschatological sense. After all, Syria is a part of the Holy Land where the Savior treaded the ground. For the Jews, waiting for the imminent arrival of Moshiach, the escalation of violence on its borders, in areas critical to Israel’s existence, has an eschatological significance. The American Protestants, dispensationalists, see the Last Battle as the invasion of the north Gogh (understand as Russia) army to the Holy Land. Finally, the Athos monks and Greek saints, such as Cosmas Aeolian[1] or Saint Paisios of Mount Athos, repeatedly predicted the release of Russian troops and the collapse of Constantinople and Turkey. So, St. Arsenios of Cappadocia in Faras told the faithful that they will lose their homeland, but soon will find it again: "Foreign troops will come, Christ they will believe in, language they will not know... They will ask: Where is the City?"[2] It is understood as the reference to the Russian army approaching Constantinople. In one of the conversations Saint Paisios said:
" – Know that Turkey will collapse. There will be war two and a half years. We shall be victorious because we — Orthodox.
– Gerontius, we tolerate damage in the war?
– Hey, at most, one or two of the island will take, but we will give, and Constantinople. You’ll see, you’ll see!” [3]
Recently, one or two years ago, all these predictions would have caused only a shrug of the shoulders, what a fairy tale! But... today: blood is being shed in the Middle East; there are military operations around Damascus; Russians are not merely present, but fight in the Holy Land; the conflict with Turkey has started and it can’t be excluded that it will lead to the real war. From an eschatological perspective, it is time to return to the holy places, the Holy Land, Constantinople and Kiev. The statement that we are not living in the End Times now seems unscientific. As Elder Paisius said: “You’ll see, you’ll see!” So, we will see.
Thus, where is the city?
Part I
[1] Zoitakis A. Life and prophecies of Cosmas Aeolian, 2007
[2] Χριστόδουλος Αγιορείτης, ιερομοναχος. Σκέυος Εκλογής. Άγιον Όρος, 1996.
[3] Zoitakis A. Father Paisius told me…, 200315 January 2017 04:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Future information Office ( F.i.O ) Agency
The winning strategy: external enemy
Ukraine – the Third Front – should be ready for armed provocations from Kiev and to repel them. Sooner or later, Russia will have to radically solve the Novorossiyan issue as relying on the fact that Kiev will fall by himself or will abandon its pro-American and anti-Russian policy is somewhat irresponsible. To effectively protect Crimea and resolve the Donbass issue, all the Novorossiya space must be freed, and, if the war is inevitable, Moscow will have only one task - to win as soon as possible and as efficiently as possible. Creating a friendly Russian zone from Odessa to Kharkov, either creating independent States or including them in the part of the Russian Lands, is the goal that could be considered as a victory. The fate of Central and Western Ukraine has no great value.
Regarding the Turkish Second Front, there, in addition to the military operational development which is the military leadership’s task and cannot be discussed by analysts, Russia should pay attention to two main factors: the political opposition to the regime of Erdogan that, in the current circumstances, has become a natural ally, and the fundamental problem for Turkey, the Kurds. Both factors are crucial to the success in the Russian-Turkish conflict. It is extremely important to conduct anti-Turkish propaganda in Russian society, constantly stressing that the US and its supporters (Erdogan) are responsible for the escalation of the region’s conflict, and that Moscow doesn’t consider the Turks as its historical enemy to Moscow. Therefore, any parallels with the Russian-Turkish war, even in internal cases, will only unite the Turkish with Erdogan and strengthen the enemy. In contrast, the support of the Turkish politicians who do not share Erdogan’s views of Neo-Ottomanism could be decisive. At the same time, of course, Russia should intensify cooperation with the Kurds, as it is an imposing force in Turkey.
Finally, the First Front, Syria. We did not accidentally put it in the end of the "winning strategy". The most acute confrontational form is always the most practical and full of technical and military detail. However, it always depends on the particulars of society, and local successes – on the outside, often global, environment.
We have seen that Russia has an important regional ally, the Shi’ite world, which is represented primarily by Iran and the Lebanese Hezbollah. These are Russian “brothers in arms”, and it should do its best to deepen the alliance. Obviously, it’s not only the Russians that understand its value, but even the pro-American forces in Russia and in Iran, so they will try to do everything possible to bring division amongst the allies. It should be nipped in the bud, at least in Russia, and concisely spelled out at the negotiations with the Shi’ites.
Next, Russians need the political, preferably military and economic support, of the countries of the planned multi-polar club, BRICS. China plays a special role there, preferring not to come to the forefront of the US opposition, but being ready to support Moscow, staying on the sidelines. Many things in Syria now depends on Moscow-Beijing relations, and it needs maximum attention.
Russia has no chance of making European countries its fully-fledged allies in Syria, as the US influence on them is too great. However, any distancing from Washington by the European powers (especially France, Germany and Italy) alongside differences in NATO will be very useful to Moscow. If Europe is to continue to grow its wave of right-conservative parties and movements, who are generally loyal to Russia, it will significantly strengthen its position in Syria. The Russian propaganda in Europe during wartime has particular importance.
As in Syria, Russia faces forces openly supported by Saudi Arabia and Qatar. As Qatar is involved in the plane crash with Russian tourists over the Sinai, Russia should pay special attention to the maximum destabilization of the regimes. Under certain circumstances, a direct attack on Qatar and military support for the Houthis in Yemen, as well as the Shiites in Bahrain, cannot be excluded. The invitation of the Russian troops in Iraq and Lebanon by their governments is strategically crucial; it will help to wage a full-scale war against the main bases of the ISIS terrorists and break their infrastructure connection with Turkey and the Gulf countries.
In general, Russia is already at war in the Middle East, so it should be recognized as an accomplished fact that, using the whole arsenal of available means, first of all, intelligence networks aimed at promoting, using different ways, Russian interests in the region such as information, economic, ideological, etc, must urgently be revived.
The last argument in this war will involve Russian nuclear weapons, which, thank God, the 90’s liberal reformers did not manage to destroy. It is common sense not to use them ever. However, it does mean that they cannot impose severe restrictions on Russia’s main enemy, the United States of America. Fearing complete destruction, the United States will have to play against Russia abiding by certain rules.
Seventh Front. Americans against Federal Government
In addition, in terms of the United States, it is important to open the Seventh Front. In fact, the US have many people who are unsatisfied with the ruling elite that profess the globalist ideology, drawing the USA into bloody wars, destroying the traditional European Christian identity. New America, where nothing is left from the US itself, and which serves the interests of the global financial oligarchy that has no culture or identity, destroys old America. Therefore, the support of US traditionalism and the conservatism of American identity is an important task for Russia. Its ally in the USA is the American people. In addition, many contradictions have accumulated in the social sphere, in inter-ethnic relations. The majority of American society does not accept the moral degeneration. The federal government uses each convenient occasion to begin the abolishment of the second amendment of the Constitution allowing the Americans to keep and bear arms. The growing proportions of the Latin population, mostly Catholic, bring to the American public a new identity that is not hostile to Russia. Russia should be actively involved in the struggle for influence on the American society, strengthening the explanation of the Russian spiritual position in the war, showing that Russians and Americans have a common enemy: a manic satanic elite that have usurped power and are leading the whole humanity, including the Americans, towards the inevitable catastrophe. The elite’s results are evident: the whole Middle East is already covered in blood, they are not able any more to establish any order, the globalist elite (the CFR, the neocons, the representatives of the international financial oligarchy of Wall Street) implants everywhere only chaos, devastation, death and pain. The destruction of such a cancer on humanity is a matter for the entire world, including the Americans, who are not only its instruments but also victims.15 January 2017 04:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Winning strategy: internal enemy
Let us imagine that we, quite objectively, estimated the risks, and our analysis is correct. What should Russia do in such a situation? In levying the war or at least being close to it, we must not only react situationally, but also have a plan for how to wage the war and to win it. It is quite logical to have the desire to win, isn’t it? Now it is important to find way how to achieve it, even if it’s just in theory.
It is obvious that you can only wage war effectively with an external enemy if the society is quite consolidated and mobilized internally. It is desirable to be mentally prepared for the war. To do this, people must understand who is the enemy and who is not, and, most importantly, why this is the case and not so otherwise. You mustn’t demonize the enemy at the very beginning of the war. The image of the enemy must be formed in advance and deliberately.
Therefore, the first task to gain victory would be real fully-fledged company to create the entirely negative, monstrous, satanic image of the United States and the West in general. Therefore, the West is a place where the devil resides. It is the center of the global capitalist tentacles. It is the matrix of rotting cultural perversion and a vice grip of falsehood and cynicism, violence and hypocrisy. Russia already does this, but since the Sixth Column is responsible for anti-Western propaganda, it is a caricature or something miserable and not very convincing. It is this sabotage that describes the essence of the Sixth Front. Its “soldiers” do not refuse to fulfill the government orders, even asking for more and more, but their execution has turned into a farce, stultifying and subtly discrediting all undertakings. Awkward and insincere propaganda often brings the opposite effect. Therefore, by creating the images of the American enemy and its satellites (which we actually have to fight), it would be logical to charge those who think exactly that way and punish them with maximum clarity and cogency to the sleeping masses. Meanwhile, the agents of influence of the West are entrusted to criticize the West. With predictable results. Such an approach is incompatible with the "strategy for victory" and it should be reconsidered (if Russia wants to have at least a chance to win in the coming war).
From the first point we move logically to the next one. It is important to dismantle the Sixth Column structures as soon as possible, removing the liberals and the pro-Westerners from all the key positions. Together with it, liberalism in the economy will be abolished, which will allow:
· The establishment of national control over the Central Bank.
· The pivot away from the dollar in foreign trade to any different reserve currency (such as the Yuan).
· The achievement of full financial sovereignty.
· The conductibility of the economy’s mobilization in the wartime.
In parallel, it is necessary to form the National Committee for the Mass Media that will reconstruct information work in accordance with the emergency requirements.
The efficiency of the purely destructive Fifth Column’s activity is largely tied with the efficiency of the Sixth Column’s sabotage. The Fifth and Sixth Fronts are inextricably connected. Therefore, the destruction of the Sixth Column’s power will dramatically weaken the Fifth Column which leaders, in emergency situations, could be either interned (by the way, the measures of house arrest are already administered to some of them), or expelled. Of course, any legal means of the liberal dissemination or the destructive nationalist propaganda should be banned.
The Forth Front is a problem, as the State does not have any ethnic and national policies. At the moment, there is only the same Sixth Column or the cognitively inappropriate bureaucrats. That is why the real challenges of uncontrolled migration and ethnic and religious tensions are approved by the bureaucracy with meaningless, for the Russian reality, empty slogans of the "civil society" and "tolerance". Without a coherent system of ethnic and national strategy against Islamic extremism and terrorism, issues in Russia will not be solved. Some security measures are not enough; it needs to eliminate or permanently change the social environment. Forced operations against terrorist fundamentalism must be correlated with the scale, including the ideological, model of ethnic and national policy.15 January 2017 04:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Alexander Dugin, Coming War part 2
Now let’s put ourselves in the shoes of American strategists. The escalation in US-NATO relations with Russia is obvious. Moscow behaved as a sovereign regional power in the cases of South Ossetia and Abkhazia in 2008, Crimea and Novorossiya in 2014 and finally Syria in 2015, and if it is necessary, it will use the power to insist on its national interests in certain areas. It is incompatible with the continuation of American hegemony that is still global. Moscow would have to build its policy in accordance with Washington and NATO, and of course, these actions will not appease the forces of sanctions. Therefore, despite the superficial courtesy and the liberal rhetoric, Russia is out of the West’s control. It is a fact. And Washington must somehow respond to it. If he admits it, it would be equal to the denial of hegemony. But in the event of decline, the American Empire will not necessarily stop at the borders that it still firmly controls today. Encouraged by the success of the Russians, one may want to look at the strength of the Americans. Therefore, in Washington strategists’ position, it would be logical to activate all six Fronts. Especially because, in all six cases, America will not outperform itself: even the worst outcome would not cause its fatal collapse, as it is protected by a vast European, North African zone, followed by the Atlantic and the Pacific Ocean in the west (especially since there is not any Russian activities in its east side). Moreover, it will be quite reasonable to synchronize the blows to Russia from all sides: militants in Syria, supporting Turkey, making Kiev start a new wave of fighting (and even to attack Crimea), leading the Russian domestic radical Salafi terrorist structures, backing the Fifth Column (finding the appropriate social occasion) and putting another ultimatum sanctions to encourage the Sixth Columns to conduct sabotage more actively and efficiently.
At the same time, it would be equally logical on the one hand to maintain and perhaps to even strengthen the sanctions, to reduce to the oil prices by a few points, and, at the same time, to start attacking the Russian leadership with conciliatory trolling like "the West will help you", "the terrorists is a common problem" (common because some are fighting with it, and the others support it) and "the main problem is China" (let the Russians deny their nuclear weapons, and we will protect them, putting our nuclear missiles on their territories) etc.
However, the simple analytical estimation hides something very serious. War. A real one with bloody seas, fires, torture, suffering and pain. The war in which we will be involved. And, since the three fronts are outside Russia, it is likely that the war on the foreign territories will be accompanied with civil war. That, however, we know very well from history.
http://katehon.com/article/principles-and-strategy-coming-war-part-iihttp://katehon.com/article/principles-and-strategy-coming-war-part-ii
15 January 2017 04:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Fifth Front. Fifth Column
This Front is a network of opposition forces whose core consists of the pro-American liberals who dream to return to the 1990s, the period of obvious looting of Russia and the selling of all its assets to foreign customers, as well as the omnipotence of the liberal elites that have, as its cannon fodder, the radical nationalists and Russian neo-Nazis who are dissatisfied with the Russian authorities and its passive policy on the growing migration and inarticulate or complete absence of the national idea.
The only liberals are not enough to organize weighty and large-scale protests, so the radical Russian nationalists play a role of massive support in the coalition. However, the pro-American liberals are the main center to coordinate efforts and make major decisions, and are responsible for contact with Washington.
The US itself officially supports the "democratic" movement, giving it substantial sums from their budget. However, the funding from other, less evident, sources of the Russian Fifth Column are much greater than the open data shows. On Bolotnaya Square, in the spring of 2012, the Fifth Column showed what it could do. In the case of aggravation of the consequences of the sanctions and possible military conflicts, the Fifth Front can become a significant factor in Russia’s weakening. It is preparing a stab in the back that may be decisive if the administrative system’s inefficiency (and nothing shows that it will be more effective in the near future) continues. Under certain circumstances, sections of their rotated and disappointed ordinary people can join the Fifth Front, creating a serious threat.15 January 2017 04:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Third Front. Ukraine
The reunification of Crimea with Russia is not recognized by anyone in the world. The DPR (Donetsk People's Republic) and the LPR (the Luhansk People's Republic) are a bleeding wound with an unknown status. Poroshenko’s position in Kiev is quite unstable, and a real change in the economic and social situation in Ukraine in general, even theoretically, is impossible. Therefore, at a certain moment, Kiev has only one way: a new round of tension and escalation in the East, and even an invasion of Crimea.
If Ukraine were face-to-face against Russia in this situation, it would be suicidal for Kiev.
However, we should take into account the US and NATO. The West was behind the coup d’etat of the winter of 2014. Moreover, at some point, an attack on the consolidated position of the Novorossiya militants and even on Crimea, by the Ukrainian army, is quite possible even for Ukrainian domestic reasons, even more so in the context of the logic of the global confrontation between Russia and the United States.
It is worth noting that all three fronts are situated close to Russian borders, in the area that separates Eurasia and Russia, the continental space of the Heartland,from its western territories. It is the area where civilizations of the East and West meet. Usually, disputes over these territories start world wars and global conflicts. All three fronts are on former Ottoman Empire territories, as Russia gained Novorossiya and the Crimea from the Turks, and Syria was a part of the Empire too. Earlier these were areas of the Orthodox-Byzantine world. Therefore, the three fronts have an enormous historical and civilizational sense.
Now let’s look at the domestic problems of Russia. There are three fronts too.
Fourth Front. Salafi terrorism in Russia
The network structures of radical Islam, tied to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey have long been deployed in Russia: both in the North Caucasus as well as in the other regions. As the influx of Muslim population in Russian cities and the capital continues, the networks spread all over and entangle the entire space of Russia. They are not limited to areas densely populated by Muslims, but actively expand their zone of influence in other social environments. Using a variety of domestic problems, radical Sunni Islam has become quite popular as an alternative to incoherent and lethargic official ideological agenda of Moscow and its purely conformist representatives in the regions. It breeds the preparation and training of terrorist groups and ISIS’ direct branches.
If the special services become technically less involved with the task of group deterrence, the strategic plan and the more ideological program to combat the phenomena will not exist, which will over time make the ForthFront extremely important. The Forth Front was actually a hot spot in the First and Second Chechen War campaign; the breakthrough in the Second one was achieved only by using a hard-patriotic line in domestic policy.
Any new attempts at weakening the national discourse automatically strengthen the centrifugal trends and the extremist groups. The Forth Front is open and is in operation, but the scale of the problems it causes, we don’t actually know. Without sowing panic among the population, the security services hide from ordinary people the quantity of averted terrorist attacks and other preventive measures, which, in fact, is impressive even today. Because the United States and its foreign centers, the US proxies in the Middle East, support the Forth Front, we can expect serious financial support and, most importantly, the support of anew escalation.15 January 2017 04:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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First Front: Syria
From the very beginning of the Syrian conflict, Moscow supported Bashar Assad who was played against by Washington, Western Europe and the Middle East's US proxies: Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey. Each of the countries, however, followed their own interests. The tool to overthrow Assad was radical Islamic groups: ISIS, Al-Qaeda (the al-Nusra Front), etc. However, Russia became fully involved in military operations only in 2015, when an exhausted Assad asked for open military support. In this case, Moscow received allies, represented by the Shiite axis: Tehran – Shiite Iraq – and the Lebanese Hezbollah; they not only cooperate, but even fight side by side. The Shiite world is strictly anti-American, but at the same time, at the regional level, is opposed to radical Sunni Saudi and Qatari financial backing of the Salafist extremist groups.
On the first front, Russia faces the United States and NATO countries, not directly but indirectly. The Western countries themselves are at war with ISIS, as they say, but in fact strongly support the radical Islamic groups to overthrow Assad. The same tactics were used to overthrow Gaddafi in Libya.
In addition, the presence of Salafi jihadists in Iraq, as well as the Taliban in Afghanistan, seems to justify the ongoing presence of American troops. Therefore, the first fronts are a vital challenge for Russia: it fights indirectly with the US and NATO, and almost openly, with Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Therefore, the war in Syria can’t be considered as an ordinary anti-terrorist operation: in addition, the Salafists now controls most parts of Syria, having an impressive amount of direct and indirect support. But Russia is the nuclear power. Therefore, its involvement in the Syrian war dramatically changed the situation, bringing it from the local to the global level. With its involvement, it has put a lot at stake. Now it is not only Assad’s problem, his enemies are forced to fight with Russia. Nevertheless, the opposite is true too: Russia challenges not only the extremist network of ISIS and al-Nusra, but American hegemony and Middle East Salafism, with its serious base in the wealthiest petrodollar monarchies in the Gulf region. This is important: how does Moscow understand the seriousness of the situation of the first front, and how far is it ready to goin a very difficult war scenario, with an impressive coalition on the opposite side. After all, the US and NATO are there, no matter what they say.
Second Front. Turkey
Involving itself more and more in the Syrian war, Russiafaces, as it is evident, Turkey - which is essentially occupying thenorth of Syria, inhabited by Turcoman tribes, and has begun a military conflict with Syrian Kurds. Erdogan has established an alliance with wealthy Qatar for a long time, funding the Salafi groups (such as the "Muslim Brotherhood" in Egypt) and has began an active struggle against Assad. Therefore, when the Russian military in Syria started bombing the positions of the Salafists in the north of Syria, it was involved in a direct conflict with Ankara. The military jet downing and the brutal murder of the Russian pilots were just a pretext to escalate the tension. When Russia started performing decisively and getting involved in the conflict, there was no other way, the war with Turkey became a very real event.
Then there was the breaking off of trade relations, the tourism ban, and the expulsion of Turkish construction companies, which in the economic sphere is the strongest and most painful hit for Turkey, which has led to multibillion-dollar losses. Ankara is constantly threatening to close the Bosporus to Russian sea crafts, which would be cutting the vital artery for Russian troops in Latakia.
The Turks sent, in recent weeks, a significant part of its troops from the border with Greece to the border with Syria, and this can be regarded as preparation for a military invasion. All these facts greatly increase the risk of a new Russian-Turkish war. How likely is it? It is more likely than it has ever been in the 20th century and the first decades of the 21st. The Second Front has already been opened. When an outright conflict will break out, no one can say for sure. Theoretically, it could happen at any time. Here again, it is worth remembering that Turkey is a NATO member-state, and that it coordinates its actions in Syria with Washington. It means that Russia will face-off against the Western coalition (with the USA in charge) performing on the Turkish side in a potential new war, as it was with the Crimean War. So again, a regional conflict would obviously have a global impact. This is especially true because in Turkey there is a US nuclear military base. It would be difficult for an outright war with Turkey not to be the start of WWIII.15 January 2017 04:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Alexander Dugin
To tell the truth, war has broken out. War has been "broken out". That war, which is most important now, is the confrontation of two civilizations: the Land civilization, represented by Russia, and the Sea civilization, represented by the US. It is a standoff between a trade-based system, and a heroic civilization, between Carthage and Rome, Athens and Sparta. However, at certain moments it reaches a “hot” stage. We are in this moment again. We are at the brink of the war, and also one exists. However, this war can become a major and, perhaps, the sole battle of our lives, at any time. As the major players – the US and Russia – are nuclear powers, the war involves all the nations of the Earth. It has every chance to become the end of humankind. Of course this is not guaranteed, but such a plot twist cannot be excluded.
The spiritual plan of the great conflict is comprehend in special terms and contexts. There, the balance of power is always in favor of the Light, despite the faithful’s position. However, at the strategic level, it may seem a little different. The roles in the war are not symmetrical. Russia is in a weaker position, but trying to get back its status of the global player. It only seeks to restore its potential regional power to exert its influence freely in areas near to its borders. However, it is unacceptable for the United States, which, despite everything, remain the global hegemony and refuse to lose the monopolarity by its own will.
If we take into account the spiritual background of the war, it will become clear that the darkness doesn’t allow the light to exist in any proportion, it will calm down only when will be able to fight the light everywhere, not only globally, but also locally, one beam is enough to turn the darkness into the darkness, without the light, it can pretend to be anything. There is an important conclusion: the global ambitions of the modern materialistic technocratic West, the globalism itself are not a contingency, but the essence of the force that we deal with. It is naive to assume that you can negotiate with the devil, or deceive him. You can only win. This is the law of spiritual warfare. Today, it attacks, and the other defends. Therefore, the war is almost on Russian territory, in the area of its direct national interests. At the same time, Russia tries to go beyond its borders; the war is defensive for it. Currently, it has only regional objectives. However, the global nuclear power prevents it from reach them. This complicates the situation and elevates the conflict to a global level. In any case, Russia is attacked, and it defends. This is important.
Let’s now turn to the fronts of the war.15 January 2017 04:50
Margus Meigo replied to Lawrence David McCreery's comment.
Choose Estonia president., for Yourself, we got for president biologist with strong wide finance background and a mother of three
15 January 2017 03:53
Margus Meigo replied to Lawrence David McCreery's comment.
well, unfortunately u need to find another country then,
reality is hard at times
reality is hard at times
15 January 2017 03:50
Margus Meigo commented on Jakob Miller's post.
Nice one!
15 January 2017 03:49
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
killerphone 2.0
15 January 2017 03:45
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
:D
15 January 2017 03:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubpObNY0NTI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubpObNY0NTI
15 January 2017 03:35
Margus Meigo commented on Creative Panda's video.
well..
http://www.cheatsheet.com/technology/6-hover-vehicles-that-are-closer-than-you-think.html/?a=viewall
Volkswagen is taking an entirely new approach to customer dialogue in China. From today, Chinese internet users can post their ideas about the car of the future on the "People's Car Project" (PCP) platform at www.zaoche.cn.
"Volkswagen has set out to create the most innovative dialogue platform ever with the 'People's Car Project'. The platform is debuting in China, because that is Volkswagen's largest and most important market. However, we also see potential for launching the project in other markets as well," Luca de Meo, Director of Marketing, Volkswagen Group and the Volkswagen Passenger Cars brand, explained. PCP is initially scheduled to run for a one-year period.
Over 450 million people have access to the internet in China. These users are particularly interested in interactive content. The project reflects this demand. "We hope to involve people via the internet and inspire them for Volkswagen," de Meo commented. Internet users accessing the PCP page can click their way to co-developing their Volkswagen model of the future as well as posting ideas which are then discussed and developed further by other users. They can also upload images or films.
"With PCP we are listening very carefully to what our customers have to say and are building cars not only for, but also with people," Luca de Meo explains, adding that this gives Volkswagen a valuable insight into the wishes, needs and demands of Chinese customers.
A year later, Volkswagen announced it had selected three entries from the more than 119,000 ideas submitted to develop further as concepts for display at Auto China 2012: a Music Car, a Hover Car, and a Smart Key:
With 33 million visitors to the website and more than 119,000 ideas submitted, the 'People's Car Project' (PCP) launched in China 11 months ago has far exceeded all expectations. Three of the vehicle and technology concepts created by users of an online platform and further developed by Volkswagen are currently on show at Auto China 2012: These concepts are the Hover Car, the Music Car and the Smart Key.
With the Hover Car, an environmentally-friendly two-seater city car which hovers just above the ground, Volkswagen is presenting the study of a zero-emissions vehicle that could in future travel along electromagnetic road networks. 'The creative ideas from the 'People's Car Project' give us a
valuable insight into the wishes of Chinese drivers,' Simon Loasby, Head of Design at Volkswagen Group China, said. 'The trend is towards safe cars that can easily navigate overcrowded roads and have a personal, emotional and exciting design.'
The 'Music Car' expresses the wish of many Chinese for individual automotive design. Equipped with organic light emitting diodes, the exterior colour of the vehicle changes with the driver's choice of music. More than ever, the car thus becomes a means of self-expression and a fashion statement for young drivers.
The 'Smart Key', also developed under the PCP and currently on show in Beijing, takes up the trend towards the stronger integration of online technologies in vehicles: the slim nine millimetre key has a high-resolution touchscreen which keeps the driver up to date on the fuel situation, climate conditions and the car's security via the 3G network. The driver can also monitor the vehicle from a bird's eye perspective through realtime satellite transmission.
The levitating car shown in the video clip displayed above currently exists only as a concept that was given form for display at an automobile show in China; a working model of the vehicle as shown in the video does not exist. A second clip makes it clear that the original video was the product of the filmmaker's art (and some digital trickery) created to surprise the originator of the concept by seemingly bringing her idea to life:
http://www.cheatsheet.com/technology/6-hover-vehicles-that-are-closer-than-you-think.html/?a=viewall
Volkswagen is taking an entirely new approach to customer dialogue in China. From today, Chinese internet users can post their ideas about the car of the future on the "People's Car Project" (PCP) platform at www.zaoche.cn.
"Volkswagen has set out to create the most innovative dialogue platform ever with the 'People's Car Project'. The platform is debuting in China, because that is Volkswagen's largest and most important market. However, we also see potential for launching the project in other markets as well," Luca de Meo, Director of Marketing, Volkswagen Group and the Volkswagen Passenger Cars brand, explained. PCP is initially scheduled to run for a one-year period.
Over 450 million people have access to the internet in China. These users are particularly interested in interactive content. The project reflects this demand. "We hope to involve people via the internet and inspire them for Volkswagen," de Meo commented. Internet users accessing the PCP page can click their way to co-developing their Volkswagen model of the future as well as posting ideas which are then discussed and developed further by other users. They can also upload images or films.
"With PCP we are listening very carefully to what our customers have to say and are building cars not only for, but also with people," Luca de Meo explains, adding that this gives Volkswagen a valuable insight into the wishes, needs and demands of Chinese customers.
A year later, Volkswagen announced it had selected three entries from the more than 119,000 ideas submitted to develop further as concepts for display at Auto China 2012: a Music Car, a Hover Car, and a Smart Key:
With 33 million visitors to the website and more than 119,000 ideas submitted, the 'People's Car Project' (PCP) launched in China 11 months ago has far exceeded all expectations. Three of the vehicle and technology concepts created by users of an online platform and further developed by Volkswagen are currently on show at Auto China 2012: These concepts are the Hover Car, the Music Car and the Smart Key.
With the Hover Car, an environmentally-friendly two-seater city car which hovers just above the ground, Volkswagen is presenting the study of a zero-emissions vehicle that could in future travel along electromagnetic road networks. 'The creative ideas from the 'People's Car Project' give us a
valuable insight into the wishes of Chinese drivers,' Simon Loasby, Head of Design at Volkswagen Group China, said. 'The trend is towards safe cars that can easily navigate overcrowded roads and have a personal, emotional and exciting design.'
The 'Music Car' expresses the wish of many Chinese for individual automotive design. Equipped with organic light emitting diodes, the exterior colour of the vehicle changes with the driver's choice of music. More than ever, the car thus becomes a means of self-expression and a fashion statement for young drivers.
The 'Smart Key', also developed under the PCP and currently on show in Beijing, takes up the trend towards the stronger integration of online technologies in vehicles: the slim nine millimetre key has a high-resolution touchscreen which keeps the driver up to date on the fuel situation, climate conditions and the car's security via the 3G network. The driver can also monitor the vehicle from a bird's eye perspective through realtime satellite transmission.
The levitating car shown in the video clip displayed above currently exists only as a concept that was given form for display at an automobile show in China; a working model of the vehicle as shown in the video does not exist. A second clip makes it clear that the original video was the product of the filmmaker's art (and some digital trickery) created to surprise the originator of the concept by seemingly bringing her idea to life:
http://www.cheatsheet.com/technology/6-hover-vehicles-that-are-closer-than-you-think.html/?a=viewall
15 January 2017 03:34
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
karm
15 January 2017 03:02
Margus Meigo commented on Tim Van Ryker's post.
Group: Art of the Initiate
Not seeing a trouble with it,
as long average, regular human does not stop eating what they not need, drinking what they not need and purchasing for their kids and them self what they not need, ... there is no reason why should we invest more in to crap production , meaning, giving more money to average human who enforce products what kill humans and planet.
It is Their money, it is Their business what THEY do with it,
What is wrong with people,
and these people who using the words like "average... regular..." shut ur pie hole bastard15 January 2017 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on Maurice Burkey's post.
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thats possible15 January 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo commented on Lucy Mistele's post.
Group: Art of the Initiate
and who are the egos, beliefs and fears?15 January 2017 02:31
Margus Meigo commented on David Teszár's post.
Group: Art of the Initiate
Why so sad Miquel`?15 January 2017 02:26
Margus Meigo replied to Lawrence David McCreery's comment.
he is easy to understand, out of them all
14 January 2017 21:49
Margus Meigo commented on Maranda Kidd's post.
What train are you going to take there?
14 January 2017 21:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
someone should have thrown basket of water on that reporter
14 January 2017 21:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i always been pissed why everyone allows media to bother like that, i would not be so nice to so bad people
14 January 2017 21:38
Margus Meigo commented on Maranda Kidd's post.
He is to nice for this kind of crap attacking him with questions like that,
and i am even not pro trump and feeling rage about the one who is bothering him there about getting question after he is told 3+ times no.
But yes, there is even better solutions
and i am even not pro trump and feeling rage about the one who is bothering him there about getting question after he is told 3+ times no.
But yes, there is even better solutions
14 January 2017 21:37
Margus Meigo commented on Maranda Kidd's post.
True c
14 January 2017 21:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
after, can start to progress, if you sing for people, good to know what parts is better and how, ..explain to a songs, what part u like best and what kind of direction you would like, let people ask their friends who know real music critics who can let u know the hidden things what they think should get better and how and why, focus to criticism also and be thankful every criticism u get, and filter from it out the most beneficial criticism and ten in the end sing in a way you like
14 January 2017 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on Maranda Kidd's post.
keep headphones on and sing along favorite song by recording it.. then look at this. share to us , 3-4 versions, if wish, asking, what version is better and how.. can make FB album about it
14 January 2017 21:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.facebook.com/DailyMail/videos/1850803644979375/
14 January 2017 21:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
3 aastane laps:
https://www.facebook.com/1764425207107600/videos/1793806810836106/
https://www.facebook.com/1764425207107600/videos/1793806810836106/
14 January 2017 21:12
Margus Meigo commented on Creative's link.
do not get it
14 January 2017 21:08
Margus Meigo commented on Creative's link.
this is why spiritual and real world have borders as to many started to mess with what is not needed
14 January 2017 21:07
Margus Meigo commented on Creative's link.
this guy has strong nose, should send to America's Navy
14 January 2017 21:02
Margus Meigo commented on Creative's link.
gif is dead, where is live one?
14 January 2017 21:00
Margus Meigo commented on Creative's photo.
when u got money and wonder what to do with it..
14 January 2017 20:57
Margus Meigo commented on Creative's link.
Brilliant
14 January 2017 20:56
Margus Meigo replied to Irmeli Grönberg's comment.
:D:D :D
14 January 2017 01:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
ja Jumal ei hakka tegelema võimatute asjade võimalikuks tegemisega lihtsalt sellepärast, et ta saab.
sedasi kasvaks inimene üles illusioonides, näõrgakoeliseks, hooletuks, pealiskaudseks, sellistega kellega ei saa luurele minna14 January 2017 01:34
Margus Meigo commented on Kerli Kikkatalo's post.
Group: Kristlased
asi pole vabanduste andmises, vaid mõistmises, et osasi asju tehes on osad asjad muutunud ja saiast muna enam kätte ei saa,14 January 2017 01:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
muidu kõik elavad, patud üksteise virnas ja lapselapsed küsivad, et mis sest siis hullu on kui tema seda ja too toda tegi ja kõik ikka hästi on...
parem kaduda ja paar korda uuesti sündida14 January 2017 01:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
võta mine erakuks, püherda tuhas, ja lase ennast ühes oma patuga unustada, alsuta uut elu...
teades, et see Sa ei saa kunagi olema kes olid,
kuid proovi alumise kihina, mitme teise samavääärse patu tekkimist kellegis teises takistada, siis Jumala silmis saad armu ja arusaamist ehk aga inimeste silmis ei ole mõtet alastust nõuda ega nende meeli oma mälestustega rikkuda.
Vanasti kihutati külast välja sellised kui nad ise minna ei mõistnud, et nad endaga koos halbu mälestusi ei hoiaks alles.14 January 2017 01:16
Margus Meigo commented on Kerli Kikkatalo's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kui ta ikka päriselt kristlane on siis mis see asi on milles ta rangelt eksida saab...
on asjad mida tehes sa enam lihtsalt ei ole kristlane, minu raamatu järgi
--
Kui oled patune, usuta, saad eksida räigelt ja kristlaseks hakata, kuid kui kristlasena juba eksid, siis milleks üldse eeldada, et Sa kristlane olla saad14 January 2017 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
Tuleb meeles pidada, et tegu on KALAMEESTEGA,
oleks, et raamatupidaja tütar hobi korras läheb ja siis konsulteerib sellise suure enneolematu eesmärgi osas, et kas ette võtta see tundmatu retk ja kuhu see õng panna...
ja mõtle kaladele ka, kui neid püüad, ega Jeesus naljapärast kalureid kalapüügist eemale kutsunud..14 January 2017 01:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
Kui midagi nii hullu on teepeal ees, et ei tohiks minna kalale, siis teda juba selles osas tuleb usaldada, et ta siis Sumineku katkestab või teada annab
kuidas Sulle meeldiks kui Sul lapsed sünnist surmani ei arene ja pidevalt nende enda elutarviliste asjade jaoks, ühtesi ja samu küsimusi küsivad, selleasemel, et eluga edasi minna14 January 2017 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Jumal töötab otse loodusega, seega kõige mõistlikum on ennast ise sinnamaani saada, et Jõeni jõuad (ma ise ei soovita muidugi üldse kala püüda) ja koha leiad mis hea tundub.
Looja nagunii sind juba suunab ja saadab kuhu vaja, sest teab Su teid ja mõtteid kuid ainuke asi millega SINA otseselt ise ei saa tegeleda, on kalade enda juurde meelitamisega (kui sa just shamanismi või muu looduskunstiga tegele...), seega,
kokkuvõtvalt on ainuke sobiv asi milles Loojat tülitada see kui oma töö oled teinud ja siis Loojalt seda küsib mis tema teha on.
Tema teha ei ole sulle regulaarselt öelda, millal Sa poest piima või veest kala tooma minema pead, selleks ta Sulle tunnetuse ja aju andnud14 January 2017 01:04
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ime pole, et Jumal nii üle koormatud on, kui siin igal sammul inimene ise tunnetama ega mõtlema ei õpi, et kas ta on vaja kala või mitte.
Kuid mul tundub, et suures osas Luteri suunaga inimesed valiksid esimese varjandi (ja siis järgemööda järgmised ka...et endal vähem vastutust oleks) ja õigeusklikud, katoliiklased valiksid viimase.
Kalal käimine ikka hakkab peale kas tundest või vajadusest14 January 2017 00:58
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Mändmets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Ise saame valida seda mis me südames on14 January 2017 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
karm
14 January 2017 00:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
13 January 2017 22:15
Margus Meigo replied to Eranda Dammika's comment.
Group: CIA ☜|☞ Facebook
often also they find You when needed.. well, at least boss to think si13 January 2017 21:58
Margus Meigo replied to Eranda Dammika's comment.
Group: CIA ☜|☞ Facebook
did u look employment section in website ?13 January 2017 21:58
Margus Meigo replied to Irmeli Grönberg's comment.
Mis Sa Naine itsitad : )
13 January 2017 18:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Future information Office ( F.i.O ) Agency
What Would have Happened to the Ozone Layer if Chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) had not been Regulated?
http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a000000/a003500/a003586/index.htmlhttp://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a000000/a003500/a003586/index.html
13 January 2017 03:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Future information Office ( F.i.O ) Agency
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Future_ozone_layer_concentrations.gif13 January 2017 03:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Shaman Šamaan Film Movie Video Kino Theater
People also recommend to look this movie, with it, before it:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1535472/13 January 2017 02:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Shaman Šamaan Film Movie Video Kino Theater
Haring Movie Url: https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/10210668481644938/13 January 2017 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Correction information Office ( C.i.O ) Agency
take it easy we become serious12 January 2017 22:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Correction information Office ( C.i.O ) Agency
I set all posts "pending" for now,
will figure out correct instructions for how we do
For a time being
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RMQksXpQSk&list=RD7RMQksXpQSk#t=0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RMQksXpQSk&list=RD7RMQksXpQSk#t=0
12 January 2017 21:39
Margus Meigo commented on Sweets by Steph's photo.
: )
Few good points there for sure
Few good points there for sure
12 January 2017 20:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: CIA - Central Intelligence Agency
https://qbittorrent.org/download.phphttps://qbittorrent.org/download.php
12 January 2017 20:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: CIA ☜|☞ Facebook
https://qbittorrent.org/download.phphttps://qbittorrent.org/download.php
12 January 2017 20:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: CIA ☜|☞ Facebook
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/13042273/Sicario.2015.720p.BRRip.x264-ETRGhttps://thepiratebay.org/torrent/13042273/Sicario.2015.720p.BRRip.x264-ETRG
12 January 2017 20:33
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Group: CIA - Central Intelligence Agency
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/13042273/Sicario.2015.720p.BRRip.x264-ETRGhttps://thepiratebay.org/torrent/13042273/Sicario.2015.720p.BRRip.x264-ETRG
12 January 2017 20:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Correction information Office ( C.i.O ) Agency
" First, do no harm. This is the underlying message of the Hippocratic Oath historically taken by physicians to show they will abide by an ethical code of conduct. Plumbers, construction workers, law enforcement -- almost any professional whose work impacts the public must abide by some sort of ethical code of conduct.
There's one fairly notable exception: technology. While there are organization-- and company-specific codes of conduct -- like these guidelines from the Association for Computing Machinery (ACM) and the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers - Computer Science (IEEE-CS) joint task force on software engineering ethics professional practices, there's no one all-encompassing set of standards that includes the entire industry.
But maybe there should be. In 2015, independent tests revealed that Volkswagen engineers programmed cars to cheat emissions standards. In the wake of the 2016 U.S. presidential election, Facebook -- among others -- is grappling with an epidemic of fake news. The nation is struggling to come to grips with alleged Russian hacking and interference in our elections. And the current president-elect campaigned on the promise to build on the existing (or build a new) Muslim registry to track members of that faith.
http://www.acm.org/about/se-codehttp://www.acm.org/about/se-code
12 January 2017 20:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Correction information Office ( C.i.O ) Agency
"Teaching people to ask the right questions involves understanding what the questions are, says Burton, and that everyone's values are different; some individuals have no problem working on software that runs nuclear reactors, or developing targeting systems for drones, or smart bombs, or military craft.
"The truth is, we've been here before, and we're already making strides toward mitigating risks and unintended consequences. It's not even a question of can we build it anymore, because we know the technology and capability is out there to build whatever we can think of. The questions should be around should it be built, what are the fail-safes, and what can we do to make sure we're having the least harmful impact we can?" he says.
There's no one "right answer" here, and a code of ethics certainly won't put all the ethical issues to rest. But it could be a good place to start if individuals and organizations want to harness the great power of technology to create solutions that serve the greater good.12 January 2017 20:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Correction information Office ( C.i.O ) Agency
Any tool can be a weapon
"Any tool can be a weapon depending on how you use it. For us, using AI and automation -- the stuff I can think about now that we're close to it, I can see good and bad, and both are easily accessible. For our applications, we can help clients screen for diverse candidates. But we see, also, that it could be used to screen out people with different ethnicities, races, gender. We have a code of conduct internally that we all adhere to. But we understand the potential and the unintended consequences," Burton says.
In the absence of an industry-wide set of ethical standards, individuals and even some corporate entities are making public stands behind their values. In December, the NeverAgain.tech movement circulated a pledge to resist "…build[ing] a database of people based on their Constitutionally-protected religious beliefs. We refuse to facilitate mass deportations of people the government believes to be undesirable," the pledge reads. It's now gathered more than 2,500 signatures.
GrubHub CEO Matt Maloney took a lot of heat for his stand against hateful, demeaning and discriminatory actions and language. And Oracle executive George Polisner very publicly resigned his position in response to his former employer's co-CEO accepting a role in the incoming presidential administration.
It can be difficult to know where the line exists between right and wrong in this context, even if you're walking it. While one standardized code of ethics could be a solution, it may be more important to teach people how to ask the right questions, says Scrum.org's West.
"Personally, I'd love to see more education on teaching ethics than is presently available, especially in a professional context rather than just a course about theory, because ethics in isolation won't work unless it's part of a broader professional standards. There's also an issue, though, of the fact that often, individuals can't build software alone, and they're also not making these 'wrong' decisions all at once, but incrementally," West says.http://scrum.org/
12 January 2017 20:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Fortunetly, it is important
12 January 2017 18:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
amazing what people assume they see when they assume and not really look,
i mean, me out of all people,
mistaking like that
as time changed
half mystical
i mean, me out of all people,
mistaking like that
as time changed
half mystical
12 January 2017 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)'s photo.
I was so assured in past, that there is Pentagrams on CIA logo, but now pleasantly surprised to see that i assumed wrong
12 January 2017 18:07
Margus Meigo commented on Josh Denton's photo.
Lovely You stay on that profession!
Awesome!
Awesome!
12 January 2017 17:54
Margus Meigo commented on David W Bowen's post.
but instead of getting award, bull is still slaughtered later..
12 January 2017 06:42
Margus Meigo commented on David W Bowen's post.
Allar Kaljundi xD
12 January 2017 06:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
moving out of my third house now... to fourth one if lucky
legal squatting : )12 January 2017 03:22
Margus Meigo replied to Karel de Lange's comment.
well, it was yes, nearly as soft and friendly,
but rumors are, that Germany is even more soft.
Who knows
but rumors are, that Germany is even more soft.
Who knows
12 January 2017 03:17
Margus Meigo commented on Marcel van der Kommie's post.
strange how friendly and soft the police is considering that it is in purpose made for pissing of gov
If someone would try that in some mafia boss golf field then soon would there be gang there and someone would get hurt bad,
and if lucky then this same police would come to help them
If someone would try that in some mafia boss golf field then soon would there be gang there and someone would get hurt bad,
and if lucky then this same police would come to help them
12 January 2017 03:16
Margus Meigo commented on Jason Boom's post.
Also discovered, that in China, people add to their location Estonia, and when i asked about it, them had no idea what i was talking about it :D
12 January 2017 02:49
Margus Meigo commented on יץעטול פםליהס's photo.
looks a bit as not a ordinary wood cutters
12 January 2017 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: CIA ☜|☞ Facebook
swallow12 January 2017 01:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: CIA ☜|☞ Facebook
what about owl12 January 2017 01:53
Margus Meigo commented on Shafiul Haque's post.
Group: CIA ☜|☞ Facebook
This logo i like more, as there is no pentagrams on it,
well, i guess we can accept the eagle.. to much to ask to leave this.. still ancient thing You know ..12 January 2017 01:52
Margus Meigo replied to Eranda Dammika's comment.
Group: CIA ☜|☞ Facebook
lucky us12 January 2017 01:51
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
looks tripppy
11 January 2017 21:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
www.inimene.ee
http://www.inimene.ee/
11 January 2017 19:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.toitumisest.ee/soovitame
11 January 2017 19:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tervislik tasakaalustatud toitumine ja haigustepuhune toitumine
Eesti Toitumisteraapia Assotsiatsioon (ETTA, www.toitumisteraepudid.ee) on jätkukoolitusega toitumisnõustajaid ja - terapeute koondav ühendus, mille eesmärk on pakkuda kõigile tervisliku toitumise ja toitumisnõustamise alast informatsiooni ning kindlustada oma liikmete kvalifikatsioon. Lähtume inimese individuaalsusest ning anname soovitusi vastavalt abivajaja eripärale ning tervislikule seisundile, pakume ka analüüse toitumusliku vajaduse väljaselgitamiseks.
Meie kodulehelt leiad infot nii tervisliku tasakaalustatud toitumise kui haiguspuhuse toitumise kohta, samuti saad siit infot selle kohta, kuidas valida toitumisnõustajat või -terapeuti.
Pakume ka lisalugemist ning töötubades ja koolitustel osalemise võimalusi. Kodulehelt leiad ka toitumise alaseid uudiseid ning spetsialistide kommentaare nendele.
http://www.toitumisest.ee/
Eesti Toitumisteraapia Assotsiatsioon (ETTA, www.toitumisteraepudid.ee) on jätkukoolitusega toitumisnõustajaid ja - terapeute koondav ühendus, mille eesmärk on pakkuda kõigile tervisliku toitumise ja toitumisnõustamise alast informatsiooni ning kindlustada oma liikmete kvalifikatsioon. Lähtume inimese individuaalsusest ning anname soovitusi vastavalt abivajaja eripärale ning tervislikule seisundile, pakume ka analüüse toitumusliku vajaduse väljaselgitamiseks.
Meie kodulehelt leiad infot nii tervisliku tasakaalustatud toitumise kui haiguspuhuse toitumise kohta, samuti saad siit infot selle kohta, kuidas valida toitumisnõustajat või -terapeuti.
Pakume ka lisalugemist ning töötubades ja koolitustel osalemise võimalusi. Kodulehelt leiad ka toitumise alaseid uudiseid ning spetsialistide kommentaare nendele.
http://www.toitumisest.ee/
11 January 2017 19:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Veresuhkrut ehk glükoosi kasutavad kõik organismi elundid ja koed energiaallikana. Insuliin on aga hormoon, mida toodetakse kõhunäärmes. Insuliin on vajalik glükoosi rakkudesse viimiseks ning seega veresuhkru taseme langetamiseks.
Normaalne veresuhkru tase on 3,5-5,5 mmol/L.
NB! MediSmart aparaadiga mõõtes jääb normaalne veresuhkru tase tühja kõhuga 3,9-6,7 mmol/L, kaks tundi peale sööki peaks normaalne veresuhkru tase olema 7,8 mmol/L.
Diabeet ehk suhkurtõbi...
...( suhkruhaigus) on mitmesugustel põhjustel tekkiv energiaainevahetushäire, millele on iseloomulik pikka aega kõrgel tasemel püsiv vere suhkrusisaldus ja häired süsivesikute -, rasva ja valguainevahetuses. Diabeet on tingitud kas insuliini vähesusest või insuliini toime nõrgenemisest või neist mõlemast.
I tüüpi diabeedi puhul tekib organismis täielik insuliinivaegus, sellepärast nimetatakse I tüüpi diabeeti ka insuliinsõltuvaks ( insulin dependent diabetes mellitus - IDDM).
I tüüpi diabeet
I tüüpi diabeeti diagnoositakse tavaliselt <30 aastastel inimestel, kuid haigus võib avalduda igas vanuses. I tüüpi diabeedi arengut mõjutavad nii pärilik eelsoodumus kui ka keskkonnategurid.
Suhkurtõbi väljendub pideva hüperglükeemiana, mis põhjustab kahjustusi eeskätt silmades, neerudes, närvides, südames ja veresoontes. Kui insuliini on organismis vähe, jääb verre liiga palju suhkrut. Liigne suhkur eritub neerude kaudu uriiniga, viies kaasa vedelikku. Selle tagajärjel uriinikogused suurenevad, tekib pidev janutunne ning kaalulangus. Lisaks võib esineda väsimust, nõrkust, koormustaluvuse langust, suurenenud söögiisu ning naha sügelust. Haavad paranevad aeglaselt ning öösiti tekivad säärelihaste krambid.
II tüüpi diabeet
II tüüpi diabeet on palju sagedasem kui I tüüpi (vastavalt 85% ja 15% diabeetikutest). II tüüpi diabeeti põdejad on sageli >40 aastased ja neist enamik on ülekaalulised vanemad inimesed.
II tüübi suhkruhaiguse korral toodetakse kõhunäärmes küll piisavalt insuliini, kuid see ei toimi ning veresuhkru tase pidevalt liiga kõrge -- seda nimetatakse hüperglükeemiaks.
II tüübi suhkruhaiguse tekkimisel on põhjusteks ülekaalulisus, pärilikkus ehk esinemine lähisugulastel ning kõrge vanus.
II tüüpi suhkruhaigus kahjustab eriti suuri veresooni, soodustades nende lupjumist ning kõrge vererõhu ja südamehaiguste teket.II tüüpi suhkruhaiguse puhul võivad haigustunnused (näiteks suu kuivus) peaaegu täielikult puududa. Sageli leitakse kõrgenenud veresuhkru tase juhuslikul vereanalüüsil.
Diagnoos põhineb vere suhkrusisisalduse määramisel kapillaar-(sõrmeotsa) või veeniverest. Suhkrusisaldust saab kiiresti mõõta ka kodustes tingimustes glükomeetri abil. Diabeeti on alust diagnoosida juhul, kui veresuhkur on tühja kõhuga 2 korda järjest >6,7 mmol/l või kui juhuslikult pärast sööki võetud vereanalüüsis on glükoosisisaldus >11,0 mmol/l.
(Allikas:inimene.ee)
http://veresuhkur.ee/et/veresuhkur
Normaalne veresuhkru tase on 3,5-5,5 mmol/L.
NB! MediSmart aparaadiga mõõtes jääb normaalne veresuhkru tase tühja kõhuga 3,9-6,7 mmol/L, kaks tundi peale sööki peaks normaalne veresuhkru tase olema 7,8 mmol/L.
Diabeet ehk suhkurtõbi...
...( suhkruhaigus) on mitmesugustel põhjustel tekkiv energiaainevahetushäire, millele on iseloomulik pikka aega kõrgel tasemel püsiv vere suhkrusisaldus ja häired süsivesikute -, rasva ja valguainevahetuses. Diabeet on tingitud kas insuliini vähesusest või insuliini toime nõrgenemisest või neist mõlemast.
I tüüpi diabeedi puhul tekib organismis täielik insuliinivaegus, sellepärast nimetatakse I tüüpi diabeeti ka insuliinsõltuvaks ( insulin dependent diabetes mellitus - IDDM).
I tüüpi diabeet
I tüüpi diabeeti diagnoositakse tavaliselt <30 aastastel inimestel, kuid haigus võib avalduda igas vanuses. I tüüpi diabeedi arengut mõjutavad nii pärilik eelsoodumus kui ka keskkonnategurid.
Suhkurtõbi väljendub pideva hüperglükeemiana, mis põhjustab kahjustusi eeskätt silmades, neerudes, närvides, südames ja veresoontes. Kui insuliini on organismis vähe, jääb verre liiga palju suhkrut. Liigne suhkur eritub neerude kaudu uriiniga, viies kaasa vedelikku. Selle tagajärjel uriinikogused suurenevad, tekib pidev janutunne ning kaalulangus. Lisaks võib esineda väsimust, nõrkust, koormustaluvuse langust, suurenenud söögiisu ning naha sügelust. Haavad paranevad aeglaselt ning öösiti tekivad säärelihaste krambid.
II tüüpi diabeet
II tüüpi diabeet on palju sagedasem kui I tüüpi (vastavalt 85% ja 15% diabeetikutest). II tüüpi diabeeti põdejad on sageli >40 aastased ja neist enamik on ülekaalulised vanemad inimesed.
II tüübi suhkruhaiguse korral toodetakse kõhunäärmes küll piisavalt insuliini, kuid see ei toimi ning veresuhkru tase pidevalt liiga kõrge -- seda nimetatakse hüperglükeemiaks.
II tüübi suhkruhaiguse tekkimisel on põhjusteks ülekaalulisus, pärilikkus ehk esinemine lähisugulastel ning kõrge vanus.
II tüüpi suhkruhaigus kahjustab eriti suuri veresooni, soodustades nende lupjumist ning kõrge vererõhu ja südamehaiguste teket.II tüüpi suhkruhaiguse puhul võivad haigustunnused (näiteks suu kuivus) peaaegu täielikult puududa. Sageli leitakse kõrgenenud veresuhkru tase juhuslikul vereanalüüsil.
Diagnoos põhineb vere suhkrusisisalduse määramisel kapillaar-(sõrmeotsa) või veeniverest. Suhkrusisaldust saab kiiresti mõõta ka kodustes tingimustes glükomeetri abil. Diabeeti on alust diagnoosida juhul, kui veresuhkur on tühja kõhuga 2 korda järjest >6,7 mmol/l või kui juhuslikult pärast sööki võetud vereanalüüsis on glükoosisisaldus >11,0 mmol/l.
(Allikas:inimene.ee)
http://veresuhkur.ee/et/veresuhkur
http://veresuhkur.ee/et/veresuhkur
11 January 2017 19:17
Margus Meigo commented on Petya Barzilska's post.
Nu, bo vono tak i ye
In English: " In the Polish census of 2011, 258 people identified their nationality as Boyko, with 14 people listing it as their only national identification "
In English: " In the Polish census of 2011, 258 people identified their nationality as Boyko, with 14 people listing it as their only national identification "
11 January 2017 19:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vaat, kus lugu
11 January 2017 19:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aino Kallas on rõhutanud Reigi kirikuõpetaja vaesust oma romaanis just klaasnõude puudumisega: „Siis kallasin mina võõrale senesse meie ainsasse tinapeekrisse Claret’i, aga enesele ja oma naisele Catharinale puukruusidesse (...) Sene joogi jaoks oleks kõlvanud hõbe- elik kuldkarikas elik ka Böhmimaa kristallklaasid, aga meie süda on kummatigi otsekohene ning täis alandlikku auvuandmist!“ Tegelikult pole põhjust arvata, nagu oleks pastoriperes kenadest klaaspeekritest puudus olnud – on teada, et Lempelius ise oli Hüti klaasikoja toodangu vahendaja
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http://www.estada.ee/book/ajaloolised-isikud-eesti-ilukirjanduses/
Reigi kirik asub Reigi külas Hiiumaa põhjatipus. Kirikut ongi esimest korda mainitud ajal, mil Lempelius seal õpetajaks oli, 1627. aastal. Millal Reigisse esimene pühakoda rajati, pole täpselt teada. „Reigi õpetajas“ kirjeldatud sündmuste ajaks oli see igatahes juba mõnda aega olemas olnud. Lempeliuse-aegset kirikut säilinud ei ole, praegu Reigis näha olev kirik on seal vähemalt kolmas, ehitatud aastatel 1799–1802. Sellele eelnenud kirikuhoone olevat olnud valmistatud puust. Lempeliuse ajal elas Reigi kihelkonnas võrdselt nii rannarootslasi kui eestlasi – pooled koguduseliikmed olevat olnud rootslased, pooled aga eestlased. Lempelius, kes valdas nii soome, rootsi kui ka eesti keelt, sobis seetõttu Reigi õpetajaks suurepäraselt.
Reigi küla koos suurema osaga kogu ülejäänud Hiiumaast kuulus „Reigi õpetajas“ kirjeldatud sündmuste ajal Rootsi krahvile Jakob de la Gardie’le. Ta oli üks Rootsi kuningriigi olulisemaid väejuhte, kes osales Poola-Rootsi sõdades ja Madalmaade ülestõusus ning võitles ka venelaste vastu Ingeri sõjas. Aja jooksul sai temast oluline riigitegelane. Aastatel 1619–1622 oli ta Eestimaa kuberner. Siinmail kutsuti teda Laisk-Jaaguks, sest ta kaalus kõiki oma otsuseid kaua ja põhjalikult. Omades suuri maid Hiiumaal, rajas ta saarele 1628. aastal klaasitöökoja, mis tegutses 36 aastat ja kus hiilgeaegadel töötas 30–35 inimest. Klaasikoda asus Hüti küla läheduses, Kõrgessaare, Käina ja Kõpu poole suunduvate teede sõlmpunktis. Klaasikojas toodeti peamiselt aknaklaasi, laboratooriuminõusid, apteegi- ja meditsiiniklaase. Hiljem lisandusid pesemis- ehk tualettpudelid, lauaklaas, viinaklaasid, veiniklaasid, mõõduklaasid, silmaloputusklaasid jne. Aino Kallas on rõhutanud Reigi kirikuõpetaja vaesust oma romaanis just klaasnõude puudumisega
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http://www.estada.ee/book/ajaloolised-isikud-eesti-ilukirjanduses/
Reigi kirik asub Reigi külas Hiiumaa põhjatipus. Kirikut ongi esimest korda mainitud ajal, mil Lempelius seal õpetajaks oli, 1627. aastal. Millal Reigisse esimene pühakoda rajati, pole täpselt teada. „Reigi õpetajas“ kirjeldatud sündmuste ajaks oli see igatahes juba mõnda aega olemas olnud. Lempeliuse-aegset kirikut säilinud ei ole, praegu Reigis näha olev kirik on seal vähemalt kolmas, ehitatud aastatel 1799–1802. Sellele eelnenud kirikuhoone olevat olnud valmistatud puust. Lempeliuse ajal elas Reigi kihelkonnas võrdselt nii rannarootslasi kui eestlasi – pooled koguduseliikmed olevat olnud rootslased, pooled aga eestlased. Lempelius, kes valdas nii soome, rootsi kui ka eesti keelt, sobis seetõttu Reigi õpetajaks suurepäraselt.
Reigi küla koos suurema osaga kogu ülejäänud Hiiumaast kuulus „Reigi õpetajas“ kirjeldatud sündmuste ajal Rootsi krahvile Jakob de la Gardie’le. Ta oli üks Rootsi kuningriigi olulisemaid väejuhte, kes osales Poola-Rootsi sõdades ja Madalmaade ülestõusus ning võitles ka venelaste vastu Ingeri sõjas. Aja jooksul sai temast oluline riigitegelane. Aastatel 1619–1622 oli ta Eestimaa kuberner. Siinmail kutsuti teda Laisk-Jaaguks, sest ta kaalus kõiki oma otsuseid kaua ja põhjalikult. Omades suuri maid Hiiumaal, rajas ta saarele 1628. aastal klaasitöökoja, mis tegutses 36 aastat ja kus hiilgeaegadel töötas 30–35 inimest. Klaasikoda asus Hüti küla läheduses, Kõrgessaare, Käina ja Kõpu poole suunduvate teede sõlmpunktis. Klaasikojas toodeti peamiselt aknaklaasi, laboratooriuminõusid, apteegi- ja meditsiiniklaase. Hiljem lisandusid pesemis- ehk tualettpudelid, lauaklaas, viinaklaasid, veiniklaasid, mõõduklaasid, silmaloputusklaasid jne. Aino Kallas on rõhutanud Reigi kirikuõpetaja vaesust oma romaanis just klaasnõude puudumisega
http://www.estada.ee/book/ajaloolised-isikud-eesti-ilukirjanduses/
11 January 2017 19:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Samal aastal hakkas üle kogu saare levima kuuldus, et pastoriproua on taas lapseootel. Esialgu pastor Lempelius seda juttu ei uskunud, vaid olla naerma puhkenud ja ütelnud, et „kui prouaga peaks olema sellised lood, siis pole temal selles süüd, kuna ta pole juba kolm aastat kordagi oma naise kõrval maganud, veel vähem temaga abielulist armastust harrastanud“. Kuid juba veebruari alguses süüdistas ta ka ise Jonas Kempet Catharinaga magamises. Peatselt kostis see lugu piiskop Jheringu kõrvu, kes kutsus Jonas Kempe ja Paul Lempeliuse 16. veebruariks Tallinnasse kohtusse, et asjas selgusele jõuda. Ent Jonas põgenes koos Catharinaga kohtumõistmise eest üle merelahe Soome. Paarikesel õnnestus end mõnda aega küll varjata, kuid 1649. aasta alguses olid nad juba tabatud ja Tallinnasse kohtu ette toodud.
Jonas tunnistas end kohtus koheselt süüdi. Kohtunikud kaalusid küll armastajapaarile erinevaid karistusi, ent viimaks otsustati nii Jonas kui Catharina surma mõista. Nad hukati 1649. aasta 6. veebruaril Võlla- ehk Jeruusalemma mäel, Tõnismäe kandis.
Kui „Reigi õpetajas“ on kirjeldatud, kuidas Lempelius elab pärast oma naise surma veel üle 30 aasta rahulikku ja üksildast elu Hiiumaal, kunagi uuesti abiellumata, siis tegelik Lempelius naitus peatselt uuesti. Oma uue abikaasaga jäi ta Reigi kirikuõpetajaks kuni oma surmani 1665. aasta 29. septembril.
Jonas tunnistas end kohtus koheselt süüdi. Kohtunikud kaalusid küll armastajapaarile erinevaid karistusi, ent viimaks otsustati nii Jonas kui Catharina surma mõista. Nad hukati 1649. aasta 6. veebruaril Võlla- ehk Jeruusalemma mäel, Tõnismäe kandis.
Kui „Reigi õpetajas“ on kirjeldatud, kuidas Lempelius elab pärast oma naise surma veel üle 30 aasta rahulikku ja üksildast elu Hiiumaal, kunagi uuesti abiellumata, siis tegelik Lempelius naitus peatselt uuesti. Oma uue abikaasaga jäi ta Reigi kirikuõpetajaks kuni oma surmani 1665. aasta 29. septembril.
11 January 2017 19:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// mõtle, pidi ikka petulugu olema, kui 400 aastat hiljem kirja pantud, ja osatäitjateks vist tundub, et pole isegi Kõrgsugu
//Lugu aina veidram, et nagu lausa magas ühega sedasi, et tal mees kõrval oli.
"Jonase ja Catharina vahelisest salasuhtest said kõigepealt teada hoopiski kohalikud talupojad ja külarahvas. Catharina tabati hilisõhtuti Jonase toast särgiväel välja hiilimas, ta avastati diakoni voodist, kuhu ta olevat enda sõnutsi kirpude eest põgenenud, paarikest nähti ka ühistel ratsaretkedel. Endine Kärdla kubjas Lars Jürgensohn tunnistab aga, et olevat näinud kord ühe talupoja pulmas, kuidas Jonas Kempe, pastoriproua jalad süles, Catharinat kuivatatud haugi tükkidega toitis. Paari käitumine olevat olnud sedavõrd siivutu, et kubjas pidas vajalikuks neid korrale kutsuda.
1647. aasta kolmekuningaööl olevat Lempeliuse toatüdruk leidnud põrandalt „härra Jonase härra Pauli proua peal lamamast“, samal ajal kui Lempelius kõrval abieluvoodis sügavat und magas. Pastoriproua ja diakon veensid teenijat vaikima, andes talle kingituseks juustukera, leisika (8,19 kg) villa ja paari kindaid. Toatüdrukut hakkas aga peagi südametunnistus vaevama, mispeale ta kogu loo köstrile ja seejärel ka Lempeliusele ära rääkis.
//Lugu aina veidram, et nagu lausa magas ühega sedasi, et tal mees kõrval oli.
"Jonase ja Catharina vahelisest salasuhtest said kõigepealt teada hoopiski kohalikud talupojad ja külarahvas. Catharina tabati hilisõhtuti Jonase toast särgiväel välja hiilimas, ta avastati diakoni voodist, kuhu ta olevat enda sõnutsi kirpude eest põgenenud, paarikest nähti ka ühistel ratsaretkedel. Endine Kärdla kubjas Lars Jürgensohn tunnistab aga, et olevat näinud kord ühe talupoja pulmas, kuidas Jonas Kempe, pastoriproua jalad süles, Catharinat kuivatatud haugi tükkidega toitis. Paari käitumine olevat olnud sedavõrd siivutu, et kubjas pidas vajalikuks neid korrale kutsuda.
1647. aasta kolmekuningaööl olevat Lempeliuse toatüdruk leidnud põrandalt „härra Jonase härra Pauli proua peal lamamast“, samal ajal kui Lempelius kõrval abieluvoodis sügavat und magas. Pastoriproua ja diakon veensid teenijat vaikima, andes talle kingituseks juustukera, leisika (8,19 kg) villa ja paari kindaid. Toatüdrukut hakkas aga peagi südametunnistus vaevama, mispeale ta kogu loo köstrile ja seejärel ka Lempeliusele ära rääkis.
11 January 2017 19:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Talupojad Christian Mårtinßon ja Jacob Larßon olevat sattunud nägema, kuidas pastor andis oma naisele käega kaks-kolm hoopi. Selle põhjuseks olnud, et „naine jõi palju ja sõimas meest soome hooraks, soome kelmiks ja soome koeraks“. Samamoodi olevat pastori naaber Pila (Pihla) Micko kord näinud, kuidas pastor lõi oma naist rusikaga näkku ja kiskus juustest.
Säilinud kohtuprotokollid annavad meile tunnistust sellest, et Catharina Wyckil olevat olnud väike viinaviga küljes, mis teda agressiivseks tegi. Mitmete tunnistajate sõnul olevat pastoriproua käinud küla peal viina kerjamas ja kord ähvardanud ta koguni noaga oma tütart, kui too teda talitseda püüdis. Veel olevat Catharina kurtnud saunanaisele oma abikaasa impotentsust, rääkides, et „mees oli ära nõiutud ja ei saanud enam abielukohustust täita“. Paul Lempelius oli selleks ajaks tõepoolest juba küllaltki eakas mees, mistõttu põhjused, miks Catharina endast tunduvalt noorema Jonas Kempega afääri alustas, olid arvatavasti märksa lihalikumad kui need, mida kirjeldab Aino Kallas.
Säilinud kohtuprotokollid annavad meile tunnistust sellest, et Catharina Wyckil olevat olnud väike viinaviga küljes, mis teda agressiivseks tegi. Mitmete tunnistajate sõnul olevat pastoriproua käinud küla peal viina kerjamas ja kord ähvardanud ta koguni noaga oma tütart, kui too teda talitseda püüdis. Veel olevat Catharina kurtnud saunanaisele oma abikaasa impotentsust, rääkides, et „mees oli ära nõiutud ja ei saanud enam abielukohustust täita“. Paul Lempelius oli selleks ajaks tõepoolest juba küllaltki eakas mees, mistõttu põhjused, miks Catharina endast tunduvalt noorema Jonas Kempega afääri alustas, olid arvatavasti märksa lihalikumad kui need, mida kirjeldab Aino Kallas.
11 January 2017 19:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Jonas Kempe
Jonas Nicolai Kempe (Kempius), kellega Catharina Wyckil Reigis salasuhe tekkis, oli pärit Smålandist. Aino Kallas on Kempe elukäigus mõningaid fakte muutnud – näiteks ei tulnud noormees Reigisse mitte Stockholmist, vaid Tartu ülikoolist, kus ta oli õppinud 1638. aastast alates. Ka ei saadetud teda saarele koheselt diakoniks, vaid ordineeriti alles 1644. aastal – esialgu töötas ta Reigis Lempeliuse ja Catharina laste koduõpetajana.
Millal Jonas Kempe ja Catharina Wycki vaheline afäär alguse sai, võib ainult oletada. Võimalik, et suhe sai alguse juba tolsamal 1642. aastal, kui pastor Lempelius Turus viibis. Kindel on aga see, et noore, äsja ülikooli lõpetanud Kempe ja rahulolematu pastoriproua vahel tekkis suhe, mida vanaldane kirikuõpetaja pika aja jooksul ei märganud, lootes teha Jonasest oma mantlipärijat ja tulevast väimeest.
Catharina ja Jonase salasuhe
Catharina ja Jonas suutsid oma salasuhet pastori eest peaaegu et lõpuni varjata. Tunnistajad on kohtuprotokollides kinnitanud, et pastor olnud diakoni suhtes väga leebe ja liiga järeleandlik. Kord olevat Kempe isegi Lempeliusele „suu sisse“ öelnud, et abielluks pigem pastori naise kui tütrega. Ometi tunnistas Lempelius pärast naise ja diakoni hukkamist 1649. aastal, et ta ei kahtlustanud Jonast sugugi, sest see olnud temaga alati väga truu ja aus. Kui piiskop Jhering loost kuulis, olevat ta imestanud ja arvanud, et „härra Paulus on vist peast väheke imelik“.
Jonas Nicolai Kempe (Kempius), kellega Catharina Wyckil Reigis salasuhe tekkis, oli pärit Smålandist. Aino Kallas on Kempe elukäigus mõningaid fakte muutnud – näiteks ei tulnud noormees Reigisse mitte Stockholmist, vaid Tartu ülikoolist, kus ta oli õppinud 1638. aastast alates. Ka ei saadetud teda saarele koheselt diakoniks, vaid ordineeriti alles 1644. aastal – esialgu töötas ta Reigis Lempeliuse ja Catharina laste koduõpetajana.
Millal Jonas Kempe ja Catharina Wycki vaheline afäär alguse sai, võib ainult oletada. Võimalik, et suhe sai alguse juba tolsamal 1642. aastal, kui pastor Lempelius Turus viibis. Kindel on aga see, et noore, äsja ülikooli lõpetanud Kempe ja rahulolematu pastoriproua vahel tekkis suhe, mida vanaldane kirikuõpetaja pika aja jooksul ei märganud, lootes teha Jonasest oma mantlipärijat ja tulevast väimeest.
Catharina ja Jonase salasuhe
Catharina ja Jonas suutsid oma salasuhet pastori eest peaaegu et lõpuni varjata. Tunnistajad on kohtuprotokollides kinnitanud, et pastor olnud diakoni suhtes väga leebe ja liiga järeleandlik. Kord olevat Kempe isegi Lempeliusele „suu sisse“ öelnud, et abielluks pigem pastori naise kui tütrega. Ometi tunnistas Lempelius pärast naise ja diakoni hukkamist 1649. aastal, et ta ei kahtlustanud Jonast sugugi, sest see olnud temaga alati väga truu ja aus. Kui piiskop Jhering loost kuulis, olevat ta imestanud ja arvanud, et „härra Paulus on vist peast väheke imelik“.
11 January 2017 19:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ma mina suts ülekohtune
11 January 2017 18:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid kiitus ikkagi, et sellegi põhjal tegi
kuigi eks algmaterial suts kole ole
kuigi eks algmaterial suts kole ole
11 January 2017 18:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
@same time
"There really is no way around this one: ALL vegetable oils should be avoided. Not only are they linked to a number of serious health concerns, they are usually produced using genetically modified ingredients as well. Just stop using them! This includes any margarine or oil spreads and vegan butter alternatives."
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"Rasvu ei tohi vältida, kuid tarbida tuleb eeskätt taimseid rasvu: külmpressitud õlisid ning mitmesuguseid seemneid. Vältida tuleb transrasvu sisaldavaid toite, mille hulka kuulub näiteks enamik margariine."
"There really is no way around this one: ALL vegetable oils should be avoided. Not only are they linked to a number of serious health concerns, they are usually produced using genetically modified ingredients as well. Just stop using them! This includes any margarine or oil spreads and vegan butter alternatives."
vs
"Rasvu ei tohi vältida, kuid tarbida tuleb eeskätt taimseid rasvu: külmpressitud õlisid ning mitmesuguseid seemneid. Vältida tuleb transrasvu sisaldavaid toite, mille hulka kuulub näiteks enamik margariine."
11 January 2017 18:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
naisterahvas ka veel, nu ei ole võimalik, aga tundu, et on
11 January 2017 18:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mis inimesel mõistuses toimuma peab, kui "kirjanduslikul kaalutlustel"
paneb loo sisse mõrva? Soe ikka kõrvadevahelt
Kirjanduslikul kaalutlustel jäetakse selline asi välja mitte ei mõelda juurde, see on kui liberalism ja psühopaatism on Greeka-Rooma ühiskonna normiks saanud.
"Aino Kallase „Reigi õpetaja“ on kirjutatud pastor Lempeliuse mälestuste vormis. Lempelius omandas hariduse Turu toomkoolis, seejärel siirdus ta Eestisse, kus ta oli Tallinna toomkoolis ajavahemikus 1622–1624 õpetaja ja aastatel 1624–1625 rektor. Seejärel tagandati Lempelius ametist ja ta elas ilma tööta suhtelises vaesuses kuni 1627. aasta septembrini, mil ta saadeti Hiiumaale Reigi kirikusse pastoriks.
Kirjanduslikel kaalutlustel on Kallas mitmeid ajaloolisi tõsiasju Lempeliuse elust muutnud. Näiteks põhjendab ta Lempeliuse tagandamist Tallinna toomkooli direktori ametikohalt sellega, et Lempeliust olevat süüdistatud ühe oma õpilase tapmises. Tegelikult on tema vallandamise põhjustena nimetatud korralagedust, rootsi keele mitteoskamist ja koolimajas tütarlastega läbikäimist. Lempelius ise süüdistusi omaks ei võtnud ja väitis, et ta on rektorikohalt minema kihutatud „ilma igasuguse põhjuseta ebakristlikult“. Pärast vallandamist jäi Lempelius kaheks aastaks töötuks ja pidi „kannatama suurt puudust ja kerjama oma abikaasaga leiba“, nagu ta ise on kirjeldanud.
paneb loo sisse mõrva? Soe ikka kõrvadevahelt
Kirjanduslikul kaalutlustel jäetakse selline asi välja mitte ei mõelda juurde, see on kui liberalism ja psühopaatism on Greeka-Rooma ühiskonna normiks saanud.
"Aino Kallase „Reigi õpetaja“ on kirjutatud pastor Lempeliuse mälestuste vormis. Lempelius omandas hariduse Turu toomkoolis, seejärel siirdus ta Eestisse, kus ta oli Tallinna toomkoolis ajavahemikus 1622–1624 õpetaja ja aastatel 1624–1625 rektor. Seejärel tagandati Lempelius ametist ja ta elas ilma tööta suhtelises vaesuses kuni 1627. aasta septembrini, mil ta saadeti Hiiumaale Reigi kirikusse pastoriks.
Kirjanduslikel kaalutlustel on Kallas mitmeid ajaloolisi tõsiasju Lempeliuse elust muutnud. Näiteks põhjendab ta Lempeliuse tagandamist Tallinna toomkooli direktori ametikohalt sellega, et Lempeliust olevat süüdistatud ühe oma õpilase tapmises. Tegelikult on tema vallandamise põhjustena nimetatud korralagedust, rootsi keele mitteoskamist ja koolimajas tütarlastega läbikäimist. Lempelius ise süüdistusi omaks ei võtnud ja väitis, et ta on rektorikohalt minema kihutatud „ilma igasuguse põhjuseta ebakristlikult“. Pärast vallandamist jäi Lempelius kaheks aastaks töötuks ja pidi „kannatama suurt puudust ja kerjama oma abikaasaga leiba“, nagu ta ise on kirjeldanud.
11 January 2017 18:49
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
Ah, this Russia thing.. talked so much, and irrelevant way that no one even cares soon
11 January 2017 17:00
Margus Meigo replied to Frank Basta's comment.
try to walk on these one day
11 January 2017 11:10
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
Well, still, nice to send some if asked : )
9 January 2017 22:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Inimene (Homo) on inimlaste perekond, kuhu kuulub inimene ja väljasurnud inimese liigid. Eeldatavalt on Homo perekonna vanus 2,5 miljonit aastat ja põlvneb mõnest australopiteegi liigist[viide?].
Homo habilis'e vanimad leiud on 1,9 miljonit aastat vanad, mis on leitud Tansaaniast Olduvai kuristikust (Olduvai Gorge) ja seda arheoloogilist kultuuri nimetatakse Olduvai kultuuriks. Esimesteks kivitööriistade valmistajateks peetakse Homo habilis't ja Homo rudolfensis't, kuigi nende fossiilseid jäänuseid pole koos tööriistadega leitud. Võimalik, et ka australopiteegid (Australopithecus garhi) olid tööriistade valmistajad.
Koobi Forast on leitud koljud, mille näoosad ja hambad olid sarnased inimesega, kuid ajukolju oli väike nagu australopiteekidel. Teadlased järeldasid, et on veel üks liik, mida varem peeti Homo habilis'eks. Suurem vorm, kolju number 1470 (KNM-ER 1470) nimetati Homo rudolfensis'eks ja väiksem vorm jäi kandma Homo habilis'e nimetust. Saksa paleontoloog Friedemann Schrenk leidis Malawist Urahast 2,5 miljoni aasta vanuse robustse lõualuu, mis kannab numbrit UR 501 ja on Homo rudolfensis. [1]
Esimese Homo erectus’e leidis Hollandi arst ja antropoloog Eugene Dubois Jaava saarelt 1891. aastal. Haeckelit järgides, nimetas ta oma leiu Pithecanthropus'eks. Pitekantroopus on Haeckeli välja mõeldud nimi, mis pidi tähistama inimkonna hüpoteetilist Kagu-Aasia esivanemat. Dubois järeldas reieluu põhjal, et tegu on püstise inimesega ja lisas liigiepiteeli erectus. Aastakümneid hiljem leiti ka Hiinast, Pekingi lähedalt erectus’e fossiile. Algul omistati need Sinanthropus pekinensis’ele. Teadlased leidsid ühisjooni nii Jaava kui Pekingi inimesega ja nimetasid need fossiilid Homo erectus'eks (Homo erectus javensis ja Homo erectus pekinensis). Homo erectus'ega sarnaseid leide on leitud ka Gruusiast. Nüüd arvatakse, et need kuuluvad uuele liigile Homo georgicus'ele, kes on Homo habilis'e järeltulija ja Aasia Homo erectus'e eellane.
Teadlased on vahet tegema hakanud varajasel Aafrika Homo erectus'el. Nad väidavad, et varased Aafrika vormid on piisavalt eristunud, et klassifitseerida eraldi liigiks Homo ergaster, sest nende tunnused on vähem äärmuslikud kui hilisemad Aasia erectus'ed. Homo ergaster arenes Aafrikas mõnest Homo habilis'e liigist ja seejärel rändas Aafrikast välja.
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Homo sapiens'i eellaseks peetakse Homo heidelbergensis'ist, kes oli ilmselt Homo ergaster'i järeltulija. Homo heidelbergensis levis üle Aafrika ja Euroopa. Euroopa ja Aafrika populatsioon lahknes. Põhja pool arenes neandertallaseks ja Aafrikas Homo sapiens’iks. Alternatiivne hüpotees käsitleb Homo heidelbergensis'ist ainult Euroopa liigina ja otsest neandertallase eellast ja samaaegne Aafrika vorm oleks Homo rhodesiensis. Homo rhodesiensis on arvatavalt Homo sapiens idaltu eellane ja Homo sapiens idaltu Homo sapiens sapiens'i eellane
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inimene_(perekond)
Homo habilis'e vanimad leiud on 1,9 miljonit aastat vanad, mis on leitud Tansaaniast Olduvai kuristikust (Olduvai Gorge) ja seda arheoloogilist kultuuri nimetatakse Olduvai kultuuriks. Esimesteks kivitööriistade valmistajateks peetakse Homo habilis't ja Homo rudolfensis't, kuigi nende fossiilseid jäänuseid pole koos tööriistadega leitud. Võimalik, et ka australopiteegid (Australopithecus garhi) olid tööriistade valmistajad.
Koobi Forast on leitud koljud, mille näoosad ja hambad olid sarnased inimesega, kuid ajukolju oli väike nagu australopiteekidel. Teadlased järeldasid, et on veel üks liik, mida varem peeti Homo habilis'eks. Suurem vorm, kolju number 1470 (KNM-ER 1470) nimetati Homo rudolfensis'eks ja väiksem vorm jäi kandma Homo habilis'e nimetust. Saksa paleontoloog Friedemann Schrenk leidis Malawist Urahast 2,5 miljoni aasta vanuse robustse lõualuu, mis kannab numbrit UR 501 ja on Homo rudolfensis. [1]
Esimese Homo erectus’e leidis Hollandi arst ja antropoloog Eugene Dubois Jaava saarelt 1891. aastal. Haeckelit järgides, nimetas ta oma leiu Pithecanthropus'eks. Pitekantroopus on Haeckeli välja mõeldud nimi, mis pidi tähistama inimkonna hüpoteetilist Kagu-Aasia esivanemat. Dubois järeldas reieluu põhjal, et tegu on püstise inimesega ja lisas liigiepiteeli erectus. Aastakümneid hiljem leiti ka Hiinast, Pekingi lähedalt erectus’e fossiile. Algul omistati need Sinanthropus pekinensis’ele. Teadlased leidsid ühisjooni nii Jaava kui Pekingi inimesega ja nimetasid need fossiilid Homo erectus'eks (Homo erectus javensis ja Homo erectus pekinensis). Homo erectus'ega sarnaseid leide on leitud ka Gruusiast. Nüüd arvatakse, et need kuuluvad uuele liigile Homo georgicus'ele, kes on Homo habilis'e järeltulija ja Aasia Homo erectus'e eellane.
Teadlased on vahet tegema hakanud varajasel Aafrika Homo erectus'el. Nad väidavad, et varased Aafrika vormid on piisavalt eristunud, et klassifitseerida eraldi liigiks Homo ergaster, sest nende tunnused on vähem äärmuslikud kui hilisemad Aasia erectus'ed. Homo ergaster arenes Aafrikas mõnest Homo habilis'e liigist ja seejärel rändas Aafrikast välja.
STAMMBA2.jpg
Homo sapiens'i eellaseks peetakse Homo heidelbergensis'ist, kes oli ilmselt Homo ergaster'i järeltulija. Homo heidelbergensis levis üle Aafrika ja Euroopa. Euroopa ja Aafrika populatsioon lahknes. Põhja pool arenes neandertallaseks ja Aafrikas Homo sapiens’iks. Alternatiivne hüpotees käsitleb Homo heidelbergensis'ist ainult Euroopa liigina ja otsest neandertallase eellast ja samaaegne Aafrika vorm oleks Homo rhodesiensis. Homo rhodesiensis on arvatavalt Homo sapiens idaltu eellane ja Homo sapiens idaltu Homo sapiens sapiens'i eellane
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inimene_(perekond)
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inimene_(perekond)
9 January 2017 21:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nöörkeraamika kultuur ja Paelkeraamika kultuur
Paleoliitikum (Vanem kiviaeg)
Vanem paleoliitikum
Olduvai kultuur
Acheuli kultuur
Clactoni kultuur
Keskmine paleoliitikum
Moustier' kultuur
Noorem paleoliitikum
Châtelperroni kultuur
Aurignaci kultuur
Gravetti kultuur
Solutre kultuur
Magdalenien kultuur
Hamburgi kultuur
Mesoliitikum
Ertebølle kultuur
Maglemose kultuur
Neoliitikum (Noorem kiviaeg)
Halafi kultuur (Sumer)
Hassuni kultuur (Sumer)
Ubaidi kultuur
Uruki kultuur
Paelkeraamika kultuur
Vaiehitiste kultuur
Nöörkeraamika kultuur
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%B6%C3%B6rkeraamika_kultuur
Paleoliitikum (Vanem kiviaeg)
Vanem paleoliitikum
Olduvai kultuur
Acheuli kultuur
Clactoni kultuur
Keskmine paleoliitikum
Moustier' kultuur
Noorem paleoliitikum
Châtelperroni kultuur
Aurignaci kultuur
Gravetti kultuur
Solutre kultuur
Magdalenien kultuur
Hamburgi kultuur
Mesoliitikum
Ertebølle kultuur
Maglemose kultuur
Neoliitikum (Noorem kiviaeg)
Halafi kultuur (Sumer)
Hassuni kultuur (Sumer)
Ubaidi kultuur
Uruki kultuur
Paelkeraamika kultuur
Vaiehitiste kultuur
Nöörkeraamika kultuur
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%B6%C3%B6rkeraamika_kultuur
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%B6%C3%B6rkeraamika_kultuur
9 January 2017 21:36
Margus Meigo replied to Kalev Lehola's comment.
eks ta nii peab praegu olema ja
9 January 2017 21:34
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
Share some favorite ones
9 January 2017 21:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Text
http://objektiiv.ee/ulo-vooglaid-konservatiivsus-arengu-eeldus/
http://objektiiv.ee/ulo-vooglaid-konservatiivsus-arengu-eeldus/
http://objektiiv.ee/ulo-vooglaid-konservatiivsus-arengu-eeldus/
9 January 2017 21:14
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Helenurm's post.
Kivisse salvestada need sõnad, ja eri ookeani põhjadesse Tuleviku tarvis leidmiseks paigutada
9 January 2017 21:08
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Tõsi ta on,
paljude saavad elu läbi ravitud enne, ja nendest mitmed isegi oskavad kahetseda ja arusaada MIDA nad tegid, enne keskiga.
Kuid üldiselt lapsed kes on korraliku kasvatuseta on tihti naguelavad zombid, teevad lollusi mis pähe tulevad, mis ehedad tunduvad, ..
endagi lapsepõlvele tagasi mõeldes, päris jube, isegi rästikuid sai jahitud, igast putukaliste testid..
ei tea millest se looduskauge alaareng tekkis, kuid tean kindlat, et oleks piisanud tol ajal ÜHEL austusväärsel inimesel ainult rääkida, et loodus on elus...
paljude saavad elu läbi ravitud enne, ja nendest mitmed isegi oskavad kahetseda ja arusaada MIDA nad tegid, enne keskiga.
Kuid üldiselt lapsed kes on korraliku kasvatuseta on tihti naguelavad zombid, teevad lollusi mis pähe tulevad, mis ehedad tunduvad, ..
endagi lapsepõlvele tagasi mõeldes, päris jube, isegi rästikuid sai jahitud, igast putukaliste testid..
ei tea millest se looduskauge alaareng tekkis, kuid tean kindlat, et oleks piisanud tol ajal ÜHEL austusväärsel inimesel ainult rääkida, et loodus on elus...
9 January 2017 16:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"AEA's views already influencing Trump energy agenda
The Center For Media & Democracy (CMD) has run the popular investigative source PR Watch, which looks into political corruption and undue influence of corporations, since 1993 – and it is particularly concerned that the AEA could dictate Trump's entire energy policy.
Its fears are not unfounded – in December Pyle compiled a memo listing 14 energy policies that the Trump Administration is expected to focus on, including: expediting the approval of pipeline projects; increasing leasing of federal lands so more drilling can be done to produce coal, oil and gas; and withdrawing from the 2015 Paris Climate Agreement.
PRWatch has published the memo and is urgently trying to highlight what the AEA/IER is now attempting to accomplish, especially since this tiny lobbying group has beat larger groups to gain Trump's favour like the American Petroleum Institute (API), which has a budget of $216m (£175m) as opposed to the IER's $4.8m budget.
"You have a president-elect who pledged to clean up the swamp, and now you have people being tapped for the most important positions who have been instrumental in advancing corporate interests over the interests of ordinary Americans," Lisa Graves, executive director of the CMD, told Bloomberg.
The Center For Media & Democracy (CMD) has run the popular investigative source PR Watch, which looks into political corruption and undue influence of corporations, since 1993 – and it is particularly concerned that the AEA could dictate Trump's entire energy policy.
Its fears are not unfounded – in December Pyle compiled a memo listing 14 energy policies that the Trump Administration is expected to focus on, including: expediting the approval of pipeline projects; increasing leasing of federal lands so more drilling can be done to produce coal, oil and gas; and withdrawing from the 2015 Paris Climate Agreement.
PRWatch has published the memo and is urgently trying to highlight what the AEA/IER is now attempting to accomplish, especially since this tiny lobbying group has beat larger groups to gain Trump's favour like the American Petroleum Institute (API), which has a budget of $216m (£175m) as opposed to the IER's $4.8m budget.
"You have a president-elect who pledged to clean up the swamp, and now you have people being tapped for the most important positions who have been instrumental in advancing corporate interests over the interests of ordinary Americans," Lisa Graves, executive director of the CMD, told Bloomberg.
9 January 2017 14:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
more
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&q=%22Elon+Musk%22+donald+trump&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjtg6KAgbXRAhWC1SwKHT9sBTkQvwUIFygA&biw=1366&bih=638
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&q=%22Elon+Musk%22+donald+trump&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjtg6KAgbXRAhWC1SwKHT9sBTkQvwUIFygA&biw=1366&bih=638
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&q=%22Elon+Musk%22+donald+trump&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjtg6KAgbXRAhWC1SwKHT9sBTkQvwUIFygA&biw=1366&bih=638
9 January 2017 14:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
random grzy picks here also
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/search.php?q=donald%20trump&p=73&disclaimer=1
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/search.php?q=donald%20trump&p=73&disclaimer=1
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/search.php?q=donald+trump&p=73&disclaimer=1
9 January 2017 14:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Thomas Pyle, President of the Koch-funded Institute for Energy Research and its advocacy arm, the American Energy Alliance, has been tapped by President-elect Donald Trump to lead the transition team for the Department of Energy. E&E News reported last Monday that Pyle would replace Mike McKenna, who had to step down from the transition team because of the Trump team's crackdown on registered lobbyists.
McKenna, President of MWR Strategies, currently lobbies for a number of energy industry companies , including a contract with Koch Industries that dates back to 2008.
Michael Catanzaro also stepped down from the DOE landing team. Catanzaro is currently a registered lobbyist for Koch Industries. (More on Catanzaro's lobbying history and deep oil ties on DeSmog.)
As Lee Fang wrote in The Intercept,
The Koch Industries lobbyist who was overseeing transition efforts on energy and the environment will be replaced — by a former Koch Industries lobbyist who leads a think tank funded by Koch Industries.
The Trump transition team publicized some ethics standards that essentially demand that anyone on the team deregister as a lobbyist and promise not to lobby for five years. But former lobbyists (even those registered as lobbyists at the time of assignment to the transition team) are totally fine, as is anyone working for a lobbying firm without formal registrations.
Fang described Catanzaro's and Pyle's trip through the revolving door to the DOE's transition team.
Michael Catanzaro, who was set to oversee the transition at the Department of Energy, is a registered lobbyist for fossil fuel giant Koch Industries.
Catanzaro’s departure on Friday made way for Thomas Pyle as his replacement.
Pyle is currently the president of the Institute for Energy Research, a think tank founded directly by Charles Koch, the chief executive of Koch Industries, and also funded by Koch-backed nonprofits. IER broadly supports more drilling and mining of fossil fuels, and regularly criticizes climate change scientists for daring to call for controls on pollution. Before joining IER, Pyle worked as a registered lobbyist for Koch Industries and served as the Koch Industries Director of Federal Affairs, a lobbying job, from 2001 through 2005.
McKenna, Catanzaro, and Pyle aren't the only Koch affiliates to make their way into Trump's transition efforts, and we'll be looking at other Koch ties to the Trump administration in coming weeks.
Trump himself offered a glimpse at his energy policy priorities in a YouTube video published Monday that briefly outlined his plan for his first 100 days in office.
“I will cancel job killing restrictions on the production of American energy, including shale energy and clean coal, creating many millions of high-paying jobs,” Trump said. “That’s what we want. That’s what we’ve been waiting for.” The President-elect didn't speak to any particular Department of Energy efforts, nor did he discuss how his administration would address the two energy sectors that are fastest growing in terms of both employment and electric generating capacity—solar and wind.
http://www.kochvsclean.com/koch-funded-former-lobbyist-replaces-koch-lobbyist-trumps-energy-transition-team/
https://www.desmogblog.com/2016/11/28/koch-funded-former-lobbyist-replaces-koch-lobbyist-trump-s-energy-transition-team
McKenna, President of MWR Strategies, currently lobbies for a number of energy industry companies , including a contract with Koch Industries that dates back to 2008.
Michael Catanzaro also stepped down from the DOE landing team. Catanzaro is currently a registered lobbyist for Koch Industries. (More on Catanzaro's lobbying history and deep oil ties on DeSmog.)
As Lee Fang wrote in The Intercept,
The Koch Industries lobbyist who was overseeing transition efforts on energy and the environment will be replaced — by a former Koch Industries lobbyist who leads a think tank funded by Koch Industries.
The Trump transition team publicized some ethics standards that essentially demand that anyone on the team deregister as a lobbyist and promise not to lobby for five years. But former lobbyists (even those registered as lobbyists at the time of assignment to the transition team) are totally fine, as is anyone working for a lobbying firm without formal registrations.
Fang described Catanzaro's and Pyle's trip through the revolving door to the DOE's transition team.
Michael Catanzaro, who was set to oversee the transition at the Department of Energy, is a registered lobbyist for fossil fuel giant Koch Industries.
Catanzaro’s departure on Friday made way for Thomas Pyle as his replacement.
Pyle is currently the president of the Institute for Energy Research, a think tank founded directly by Charles Koch, the chief executive of Koch Industries, and also funded by Koch-backed nonprofits. IER broadly supports more drilling and mining of fossil fuels, and regularly criticizes climate change scientists for daring to call for controls on pollution. Before joining IER, Pyle worked as a registered lobbyist for Koch Industries and served as the Koch Industries Director of Federal Affairs, a lobbying job, from 2001 through 2005.
McKenna, Catanzaro, and Pyle aren't the only Koch affiliates to make their way into Trump's transition efforts, and we'll be looking at other Koch ties to the Trump administration in coming weeks.
Trump himself offered a glimpse at his energy policy priorities in a YouTube video published Monday that briefly outlined his plan for his first 100 days in office.
“I will cancel job killing restrictions on the production of American energy, including shale energy and clean coal, creating many millions of high-paying jobs,” Trump said. “That’s what we want. That’s what we’ve been waiting for.” The President-elect didn't speak to any particular Department of Energy efforts, nor did he discuss how his administration would address the two energy sectors that are fastest growing in terms of both employment and electric generating capacity—solar and wind.
http://www.kochvsclean.com/koch-funded-former-lobbyist-replaces-koch-lobbyist-trumps-energy-transition-team/
https://www.desmogblog.com/2016/11/28/koch-funded-former-lobbyist-replaces-koch-lobbyist-trump-s-energy-transition-team
http://www.kochvsclean.com/koch-funded-former-lobbyist-replaces-koch-lobbyist-trumps-energy-transition-team/
9 January 2017 14:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
this is to much of a mess to try to comment now, will try soon
9 January 2017 14:14
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Muidugi on ka muusikat, mille jaoks ei pea mõtlema, kuid mis võimaldab ise mõtlemiseks sooda aluspinna Sinus luua,
kuid jah, eks on vastupidiseid, meelega peenelt loodud laule mis emotsioonidega manipuleerivad ja inimestesse väärarusaame systivad, tunded lõhuvad ja abielud alatiseks... võimsaid relve on..
http://www.inc.com/melanie-curtin/neuroscience-says-listening-to-this-one-song-reduces-anxiety-by-up-to-65-percent.html
kuid jah, eks on vastupidiseid, meelega peenelt loodud laule mis emotsioonidega manipuleerivad ja inimestesse väärarusaame systivad, tunded lõhuvad ja abielud alatiseks... võimsaid relve on..
http://www.inc.com/melanie-curtin/neuroscience-says-listening-to-this-one-song-reduces-anxiety-by-up-to-65-percent.html
http://www.inc.com/melanie-curtin/neuroscience-says-listening-to-this-one-song-reduces-anxiety-by-up-to-65-percent.html
9 January 2017 13:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And more from Tarmo Kruusimäe Tarmo Kruusimäe
"Vähene muusikahuvi tuleneb nõrkadest närviühendustest."
https://www.facebook.com/tarmo.kruusimae/posts/1290867824311694?notif_t=notify_me¬if_id=1483957975809809
"Vähene muusikahuvi tuleneb nõrkadest närviühendustest."
https://www.facebook.com/tarmo.kruusimae/posts/1290867824311694?notif_t=notify_me¬if_id=1483957975809809
9 January 2017 12:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mulle muidugi on.. kuid ju ta teinud siis privaatseks
9 January 2017 12:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Well, if We know, it can go one way, then for sure, often it can go many other way also
9 January 2017 12:51
Margus Meigo replied to Laisy Säde Deming's comment.
Nukker j
9 January 2017 12:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Põhja-Euroopa on Euroopa põhjapoolne osa. Erinevatel aegadel on seda piirkonda defineeritud erinevalt, kuid tänapäeval arvatakse üldiselt sinna kuuluvaks[viide?]:
Põhjamaad: Island, Norra, Rootsi, Soome, Taani; ka Ahvenamaa ja Fääri saared, Gröönimaa ja Svalbard;
Iirimaa, Suurbritannia, Mani saar ja Kanalisaared (vaata ka: Lääne-Euroopa);
Baltimaad: Eesti, Läti ja Leedu (vaata ka: Ida-Euroopa);
mõnikord ka alad, mis piirnevad Läänemerega või Põhjamerega, nt Loode-Venemaa, Põhja-Poola, Holland, Belgia, Luksemburg, Põhja-Saksamaa;
enne 19. sajandit kasutati termineid Põhjamaa või Põhi, tähistamaks Põhja-Euroopat, kuhu kuulusid Põhjamaad, Euroopasse kuuluv Venemaa, Baltimaad (sel ajal Liivimaa ja Kuramaa) ja Gröönimaa.
ÜRO liigituse järgi kuuluvad selle regiooni koosseisu Island ja Norra koos talle kuuluvate Svalbardi ja Jan Mayeniga, Rootsi, Soome koos talle kuuluva Ahvenamaaga, Taani koos talle kuuluvate Fääri saartega, Eesti, Läti ja Leedu, samuti Iirimaa ja Suurbritannia koos talle kuuluvate Kanalisaartega, sh Guernsey, Jersey ja Mani saarega.
Varasematel aegadel, kui suuremat osa Euroopat valitses Rooma impeerium, peeti selle aladest eemal olevaid maid Põhja-Euroopaks ja sinna kuulusid ka Saksamaa, Holland ja Austria. Mõnes kontekstis kasutatakse sellist määratlust ka tänapäeval. Keskajal kasutati mõistet (Ultima) Thule, et tähistada poolmüütilist paika kontinendi põhjapoolseimal alal.
// Thule, ka Ultima Thule, on antiik- ja keskaegses kirjanduses figureeriv müütiline maailma äärel asuv saar (sellega on seostatud ka Saaremaad)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule
Põhjamaad: Island, Norra, Rootsi, Soome, Taani; ka Ahvenamaa ja Fääri saared, Gröönimaa ja Svalbard;
Iirimaa, Suurbritannia, Mani saar ja Kanalisaared (vaata ka: Lääne-Euroopa);
Baltimaad: Eesti, Läti ja Leedu (vaata ka: Ida-Euroopa);
mõnikord ka alad, mis piirnevad Läänemerega või Põhjamerega, nt Loode-Venemaa, Põhja-Poola, Holland, Belgia, Luksemburg, Põhja-Saksamaa;
enne 19. sajandit kasutati termineid Põhjamaa või Põhi, tähistamaks Põhja-Euroopat, kuhu kuulusid Põhjamaad, Euroopasse kuuluv Venemaa, Baltimaad (sel ajal Liivimaa ja Kuramaa) ja Gröönimaa.
ÜRO liigituse järgi kuuluvad selle regiooni koosseisu Island ja Norra koos talle kuuluvate Svalbardi ja Jan Mayeniga, Rootsi, Soome koos talle kuuluva Ahvenamaaga, Taani koos talle kuuluvate Fääri saartega, Eesti, Läti ja Leedu, samuti Iirimaa ja Suurbritannia koos talle kuuluvate Kanalisaartega, sh Guernsey, Jersey ja Mani saarega.
Varasematel aegadel, kui suuremat osa Euroopat valitses Rooma impeerium, peeti selle aladest eemal olevaid maid Põhja-Euroopaks ja sinna kuulusid ka Saksamaa, Holland ja Austria. Mõnes kontekstis kasutatakse sellist määratlust ka tänapäeval. Keskajal kasutati mõistet (Ultima) Thule, et tähistada poolmüütilist paika kontinendi põhjapoolseimal alal.
// Thule, ka Ultima Thule, on antiik- ja keskaegses kirjanduses figureeriv müütiline maailma äärel asuv saar (sellega on seostatud ka Saaremaad)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule
9 January 2017 12:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I generally despice the study's talking about %'ts and specially if it is related to a humans, and for these kind of measurments.. but hey, must make exceptions, as vahetevahelonvahedevahelvahedvahel, vahest.
9 January 2017 12:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Maybe
Mõtteid aitab toimetada küll jah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcAVejslrU
Mõtteid aitab toimetada küll jah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcAVejslrU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcAVejslrU
9 January 2017 12:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"In fact, the music is so effective, that many of the female participants became drowsy — to the point where lead researcher Dr. David Lewis-Hodgson advises against listening to it while driving "
9 January 2017 12:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ofcourse these kind of tests are done long time ago, in all directions, and data will be used also, for many ...things,... injecting lyrics and changing in a good music something.. (will not say)
"Researchers at Mindlab International in the U.K. wanted to know what kind of music induces the greatest state of relaxation. The study involved having participants try to solve difficult puzzles — which inherently triggered a certain degree of stress — while connected to sensors. At the same time, participants listened to a range of songs as researchers measured their brain activity, heart rate, blood pressure and rate of breathing.
http://www.inc.com/melanie-curtin/neuroscience-says-listening-to-this-one-song-reduces-anxiety-by-up-to-65-percent.html
"Researchers at Mindlab International in the U.K. wanted to know what kind of music induces the greatest state of relaxation. The study involved having participants try to solve difficult puzzles — which inherently triggered a certain degree of stress — while connected to sensors. At the same time, participants listened to a range of songs as researchers measured their brain activity, heart rate, blood pressure and rate of breathing.
http://www.inc.com/melanie-curtin/neuroscience-says-listening-to-this-one-song-reduces-anxiety-by-up-to-65-percent.html
http://www.inc.com/melanie-curtin/neuroscience-says-listening-to-this-one-song-reduces-anxiety-by-up-to-65-percent.html
9 January 2017 12:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sellepärast me vajamegi paarilist, keda usaldada:
"Writer Claire Eastham, 26, agrees on her blog We Are All Mad Here:
“I spend a lot of time worrying about what I am going to do with my life. Previous generations had choice taken out of their hands. If you are told what to do it takes the pressure away.”
In our modern era, decision making can trigger a type of paralysis. Often, we will obsessively research the many different options for, say, a pair of shoes. Eventually, information overload will kick in and shut the whole shopping venture down, leaving us exhausted and guilty for being crippled by such a seemingly simple task.
https://weallmadhere.com/
"Writer Claire Eastham, 26, agrees on her blog We Are All Mad Here:
“I spend a lot of time worrying about what I am going to do with my life. Previous generations had choice taken out of their hands. If you are told what to do it takes the pressure away.”
In our modern era, decision making can trigger a type of paralysis. Often, we will obsessively research the many different options for, say, a pair of shoes. Eventually, information overload will kick in and shut the whole shopping venture down, leaving us exhausted and guilty for being crippled by such a seemingly simple task.
https://weallmadhere.com/
https://weallmadhere.com/
9 January 2017 12:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi eks seda sellepäast ka tehti, et vähendada globaalset Venemaa propakanda mõju, nende jutule, et me "ex sovjeetid" oleme kes nende maa küljest ennast lahti murdnud, mis neil endiselt globaalselt plaanis (mitte, et neil rooma-viiking pättidel oleks oma maad olnud... küll see venemaa ise ka vabaks saab... isa mul seda ka ammu ette ennustanud nagu ette ammu rääkis N Liidu lagunemisest aegadel kui veel joonepeal seisti)
9 January 2017 12:14
Margus Meigo replied to Sakunne Svensson's comment.
ega meie siis ei pea selle liigituse järgi ennast voolida laskma, Eestlaste asi on Ette jääta, ja teiste eest seista,
kuid eelkõige ise seisma jääda
kuid eelkõige ise seisma jääda
9 January 2017 12:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu jah, eks Lõunamaa on muidugi parem olla kui külmakäes kuid..
Külamehed räägivad:
https://www.facebook.com/juri.pino/posts/1233579519997791?notif_t=notify_me¬if_id=1483923208578987
Külamehed räägivad:
https://www.facebook.com/juri.pino/posts/1233579519997791?notif_t=notify_me¬if_id=1483923208578987
9 January 2017 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on Maranda Kidd's photo.
What is this turtle looking at?
9 January 2017 06:14
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
well, actually it is You know
8 January 2017 03:26
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
:D:D:D
Kle ma oma kasvandikule peaks neid ülesandeid andma, oskaks saksakeelde aint tõlkida
Kle ma oma kasvandikule peaks neid ülesandeid andma, oskaks saksakeelde aint tõlkida
8 January 2017 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
most common one is tie around the neck
8 January 2017 03:22
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Nice!
8 January 2017 03:22
Margus Meigo commented on Len Duggan's post.
seems like proper man
8 January 2017 02:56
Margus Meigo commented on Len Duggan's album.
So main point in short is, i its just a way to get more people in random way to talk with each other, seems good idea,
as who bother to block anyway anyone for "spy ing" a profile, ... i thought whole point to put info in FB is that someone would some day feel interest on it and see. ..
as these who really spy and use ur data to figure out algorithms how to enslave your .. well.. not like you can block them all.
there is higher levels inside levels..
as who bother to block anyway anyone for "spy ing" a profile, ... i thought whole point to put info in FB is that someone would some day feel interest on it and see. ..
as these who really spy and use ur data to figure out algorithms how to enslave your .. well.. not like you can block them all.
there is higher levels inside levels..
8 January 2017 02:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
unfortunately a lot of global liberal cells barely understand who run them and why
Fabian's society will also not help them with it..
Yes.. they do in public what they must to keep the cover but in real, they let them self to be fooled by emotions and drama, easy
Fabian's society will also not help them with it..
Yes.. they do in public what they must to keep the cover but in real, they let them self to be fooled by emotions and drama, easy
8 January 2017 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Well, took me only few moments, back then, to come to same conclusion with ease, and saw proofs around the web nearly everywhere,
point that people have to understand: Liberals was NOT on the Hillary side,
As they are controlled by the forces that are opposite to final aims of matriarchy minded women with royal likings.
point that people have to understand: Liberals was NOT on the Hillary side,
As they are controlled by the forces that are opposite to final aims of matriarchy minded women with royal likings.
8 January 2017 02:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
PDF, 25 pages:
http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/odni/ICA_2017_01.pdf
http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/odni/ICA_2017_01.pdf
8 January 2017 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on Len Duggan's photo.
clad i found someone who also likes screen-shots
8 January 2017 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on Len Duggan's photo.
Elementary
8 January 2017 02:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Australian pro refugee irony, but still al-right mate
8 January 2017 02:07
Margus Meigo replied to The Teafaerie's comment.
Yeah, but just when one think, they made it more easy by guessing number, ...then there is second part.. What part of nature is in it?
8 January 2017 02:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nop, stil not done
8 January 2017 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This can go 2 way by the demands of Russia,
1) America public must admit, that FSB (Russia) made favour for them
2) America must face consequences what business/Russian controlled president will do in their country, if they fail to repent.
1) America public must admit, that FSB (Russia) made favour for them
2) America must face consequences what business/Russian controlled president will do in their country, if they fail to repent.
8 January 2017 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Actual report:
"This report is a declassified version of a highly classified assessment. This document’s conclusions are identical to the highly classified assessment, but this document does not include the full supporting information, including specific intelligence on key elements of the influence campaign. Given the redactions, we made minor edits purely for readability and flow."
http://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/assessing-russian-activities-and-intentions-in-recent-us-elections-6-january-2017/
"This report is a declassified version of a highly classified assessment. This document’s conclusions are identical to the highly classified assessment, but this document does not include the full supporting information, including specific intelligence on key elements of the influence campaign. Given the redactions, we made minor edits purely for readability and flow."
http://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/assessing-russian-activities-and-intentions-in-recent-us-elections-6-january-2017/
8 January 2017 02:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kind of messed up to live in a world where we have to question these things
7 January 2017 03:04
Margus Meigo replied to The Teafaerie's comment.
no adulterants,
21 ingredients
21 ingredients
7 January 2017 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
wonder if they ever realized, that the name is.. when promoting to hippies (well, not hipsters so much)
hASID.. did they say h..ACID?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q662K4EMtrU
hASID.. did they say h..ACID?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q662K4EMtrU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q662K4EMtrU
7 January 2017 02:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
7 January 2017 02:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
talking about pogonology, really, i have actually hard time to try to relate to the need and dedication, and will to go and start to cut of day after day what grow on you...
at some times, maybe, for some strange freaky or mystical reasons, but , all the time, voluntarily?
Sorry..just getting it less and less.. one of the things, i discovered now, seems to be first knowledge i know, from where you grow away from understanding and remembering, why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ACkfbi8vyo
at some times, maybe, for some strange freaky or mystical reasons, but , all the time, voluntarily?
Sorry..just getting it less and less.. one of the things, i discovered now, seems to be first knowledge i know, from where you grow away from understanding and remembering, why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ACkfbi8vyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ACkfbi8vyo
7 January 2017 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in potential
7 January 2017 01:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eventually ower million
7 January 2017 01:32
Margus Meigo commented on James Clayton's post.
next wave will be over 10 000 as we planned... well, for sure, what will be price when all planet is using it?
7 January 2017 01:23
Margus Meigo commented on Len Duggan's album.
So what is up wit that really?
7 January 2017 01:16
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Speights's post.
yea, he is colorblind
7 January 2017 00:44
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Speights's post.
i fast read Scien..tology
7 January 2017 00:43
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Speights's post.
oh these parallel worlds and time siftings.. who wasn't love to do these..
7 January 2017 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to Christopher Carver's comment.
this was evil, for as some really will go and try.. well.. i guess they will have lesson learned for life time
7 January 2017 00:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i come to this conclusion after deep thought, (not the hijacker galaxy one but well, kind of)
7 January 2017 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Speights's post.
Jesus is AntiChrist
7 January 2017 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Speights's post.
I have seen many
7 January 2017 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on Arianna Uguccioni's photo.
yes, must be flat, look at that.
7 January 2017 00:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(drumming and all)
7 January 2017 00:28
Margus Meigo commented on Arianna Uguccioni's photo.
Nice Madame
7 January 2017 00:28
Margus Meigo commented on Trevor Murray's post.
Sweeet... ooh no, it was a dream..
7 January 2017 00:16
Margus Meigo commented on Patrick Setan's post.
i do not know jet still, do take it with as joke or with as comment tell under video
real animal, no right ?
real animal, no right ?
7 January 2017 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
wanted to say, True, True
but this come, well. let it Be
but this come, well. let it Be
7 January 2017 00:05
Margus Meigo commented on Trevor Murray's post.
True News Stories Media Wont Follow
True News Stories Media Wont Follow
True News Stories Media Wont Follow
7 January 2017 00:04
Margus Meigo commented on Trevor Murray's post.
vot eto daa!
7 January 2017 00:02
Margus Meigo commented on Trevor Murray's post.
interesting
7 January 2017 00:01
Margus Meigo commented on Chris Sansalone's post.
Protesting perhaps
6 January 2017 23:20
Margus Meigo replied to Joonas Trussmann's comment.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
ühesõnaga me toetame rahapesu kui inimõigust
https://unsystem.net/https://unsystem.net/
6 January 2017 22:18
Margus Meigo replied to Joonas Trussmann's comment.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
Rahapesu kasulikus oli me üks soovitud lugusi mida levitasime, mille Amir Taakiga ka plaanisime suurelt pankade seinale suurte bänneritega toimetada kuid kahjuks resurssi jäi ohutuks tegutsemiseks puudu et otsene media flash teha,
Kuid jah, plaan oli, et siis see aitaks meedias kanda kinnitada, selle imala juttu kõrval mida liberaalne koolkond proovis promoda. Lisaks see lugu mitmetele suurkriminaalideni lootsime, et jõuab ja küll nemad siis piisavat suurt osa bitcoinist elus hoiavad mitmes eri maa mnurgas, kuni see rasva kogub ja kasutajaid, kuni tehnoloogia areneb.
Kuni järgmise suure promo ja sammu jaoks,
kuna nüüd on uuesti 1000 daala piir käes, siis on meeldiv aeg uue taseme laine jaoks..
(mis hinna üle 10 000 lükkab.., kui seda Rothid jms lubavad, ehk kui nad lubavad päris tegelastel sinna raha kanda, eemaldavad rahapesu keelu EU firmadelt, nähes, et see neile kasulik on. lõplikult.
Eks loomulikult osutub kõik keerulisemaks kui plaanitud, kuid eks aeg parandab kõik)
Mure selles kokkuleppes, et kes nõustub vähem kasu saama, ehk hiljem ostma, selle vastu mul ka soovitus neil olemas, kuid selleks on vaja korraliku (ajutist) kartelli kokkuleppet, suurimate rahaomanike vahel, eks kõik on tehtav
https://sites.google.com/a/bitcoin2012.com/homepage/contacthttps://sites.google.com/a/bitcoin2012.com/homepage/contact
6 January 2017 22:17
Margus Meigo replied to Joonas Trussmann's comment.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
selles mõttes jah www.investopedia.com/terms/a/aml.asphttp://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/aml.asp
6 January 2017 21:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Rammu nagu veel on,
aga õhuna ümber olev kurbuse kaalumine kaalub ka
ja künna nagu peata Tõll, jaksu nagu on, aga kas pea ikka leiad, et leiaks kellega tunda
aga õhuna ümber olev kurbuse kaalumine kaalub ka
ja künna nagu peata Tõll, jaksu nagu on, aga kas pea ikka leiad, et leiaks kellega tunda
6 January 2017 00:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(see mulle arusaamiseks)
6 January 2017 00:36
Margus Meigo replied to Sepp Hasslberger's comment.
i guess we have to
6 January 2017 00:34
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Ravenna's post.
so does birth and a dentist,
5 January 2017 19:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
/(humor/ pila transaltion)
5 January 2017 16:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://vimeo.com/153245804
https://vimeo.com/153245804
5 January 2017 16:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Thanks Aleksej for reminding seccond time
5 January 2017 03:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"..sest eestis pole võimalik enam tehtud töö eest nii vähe maksta kui mõ nes Euroopa Liidu riigis VEEL on. "
Woah!
Woah!
5 January 2017 03:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lapiku maa teoorikud loevad välja: Näete, ilmselgelt kenasti mainis tõe ära lapiku kohta
5 January 2017 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Onneks on meil maailma parima ettevalmistusega noored
http://etv.err.ee/v/paevakajasaated/saated/c8cc23b6-f112-4c6e-af8c-ee3228e5ca74/riigikogu-esimehe-uusaastatervitus#autoplay
http://etv.err.ee/v/paevakajasaated/saated/c8cc23b6-f112-4c6e-af8c-ee3228e5ca74/riigikogu-esimehe-uusaastatervitus#autoplay
http://etv.err.ee/v/paevakajasaated/saated/c8cc23b6-f112-4c6e-af8c-ee3228e5ca74/riigikogu-esimehe-uusaastatervitus#autoplay
5 January 2017 03:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
min 24
"see oli juba täiesti teine mateeeria, kosmos,
Konkurentsi Õigus
...et siin maavälises maailmas mida nad kehtestavad
http://etv.err.ee/v/paevakajasaated/saated/ef267b0c-bcf3-4a4b-bf78-53913af5c403/25-aastat-eesti-iseseisvuse-taastamisest-aastapaevaintervjuu-peaminister-siim-kallasega
"see oli juba täiesti teine mateeeria, kosmos,
Konkurentsi Õigus
...et siin maavälises maailmas mida nad kehtestavad
http://etv.err.ee/v/paevakajasaated/saated/ef267b0c-bcf3-4a4b-bf78-53913af5c403/25-aastat-eesti-iseseisvuse-taastamisest-aastapaevaintervjuu-peaminister-siim-kallasega
http://etv.err.ee/v/paevakajasaated/saated/ef267b0c-bcf3-4a4b-bf78-53913af5c403/25-aastat-eesti-iseseisvuse-taastamisest-aastapaevaintervjuu-peaminister-siim-kallasega
5 January 2017 02:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kas ka tema interviueerial tohlami vaim sees
5 January 2017 01:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Peale rattaga kukkumist hakkas poliitikuks
http://etv.err.ee/v/paevakajasaated/saated/2cc8110b-8688-474b-baaa-6dc08235b00c/25-aastat-eesti-iseseisvuse-taastamisest-aastapaevaintervjuu-andrus-ansipiga
nagu savant noh
http://etv.err.ee/v/paevakajasaated/saated/2cc8110b-8688-474b-baaa-6dc08235b00c/25-aastat-eesti-iseseisvuse-taastamisest-aastapaevaintervjuu-andrus-ansipiga
nagu savant noh
http://etv.err.ee/v/paevakajasaated/saated/2cc8110b-8688-474b-baaa-6dc08235b00c/25-aastat-eesti-iseseisvuse-taastamisest-aastapaevaintervjuu-andrus-ansipiga
5 January 2017 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
thnak ju alexejev u remind me this
5 January 2017 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
so if You language person, put yourself ready if u in my contact list, and if i not contact then let your contact know about us, being interested to use langage to keep The Noa Ship alive and transport human as a species spiritually even, on to around with out anyone able to conccure it, but after a time we even get our body back, real body
5 January 2017 00:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(st, selle tarvis ka see tsenaarium, mille olemaolu pole enam saladus, vaid uks avalikest vanadest kanalites,t ja Haru, Aru puudest, sest isewgi vanad sojaväe streateegiad ja lood saavad videomongude yhenduslyliks omavahel)
5 January 2017 00:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(selle virtual realati mängu tsenaariumite ja reaalsus kanalite kanaldamise ja karjatamise, tehnoloogiate avalikusele jõudmised samadel tavatasanditel rohkem kui mobiili või arvutiharjumus)
5 January 2017 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Pani kinduse mottes oluliselt juurde kuupäeva, lubatud tema enda tervituse mitme sekundilise lisa lisamine,
kuid oligi oluline see kuupäev jne jne
palju selliseid asju naturaalselt teada inimestel,
__
Kuid video oli 20 ndal Augustil , juba
kuid oligi oluline see kuupäev jne jne
palju selliseid asju naturaalselt teada inimestel,
__
Kuid video oli 20 ndal Augustil , juba
5 January 2017 00:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(st et enamus kõik on reaalselt sama nagu paistab, kuid lihtsalt see reaalne tase juurde, et ... )
(et vota intervrjat kui mitte enam selle inim org tasmel olendina, vaid näiteks mingi suure muu eliidi esindaja, , ja siis endiselt kes peaks koodi järgi käituma sedasi, käitub hoopis sedais muud moodi, ja ka endiselt enamus muud töölised, tööl edasi, selle piires mis saavad, ja lasevad edasi olla, poliitikutel kes nad on)
(et vota intervrjat kui mitte enam selle inim org tasmel olendina, vaid näiteks mingi suure muu eliidi esindaja, , ja siis endiselt kes peaks koodi järgi käituma sedasi, käitub hoopis sedais muud moodi, ja ka endiselt enamus muud töölised, tööl edasi, selle piires mis saavad, ja lasevad edasi olla, poliitikutel kes nad on)
5 January 2017 00:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid neile tulnaritele ei mahtunud pähe, et ta isegi ei näita, et ta nagu poleks peremeees, eestlaste poolel, kelle iganes stuudio interviueeria üle võtnud on
5 January 2017 00:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eestlased nagu juudid,
"Vaatame mis kolmas kord juhtub..."
"Vaatame mis kolmas kord juhtub..."
5 January 2017 00:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Deemon sähvatab siis talle "kas see peabki nii olema., et.. kas see peabki nii olema, et me alati vastastikku seisame. //
5 January 2017 00:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kes miuidu see vidrik on kes savisaart interviuuerib ETV aastaeelses, nagu saientoloogi ja jehoova olnud tolle Uue Piibli sekti ufousklik
5 January 2017 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Andis hea info ära
kuid alates 30 nendaks infoks, (minutiks), oli juba see ammu möödas mida oligi vaja veel öelda.
Kuid need tasemed räägivad ka sellel tasandil, et on ju reaalsed reaalsused ja nad koos omavahel teavad ja tunevad, läbvivad, sest need kes ju valitsuse tipuudes protsendiliselt omavahel koos rohkem aega veetma peaks, asjade arusaamiseks, eriti suuurte eri haaretega nüüd oma tarkusi saame liita
kuid alates 30 nendaks infoks, (minutiks), oli juba see ammu möödas mida oligi vaja veel öelda.
Kuid need tasemed räägivad ka sellel tasandil, et on ju reaalsed reaalsused ja nad koos omavahel teavad ja tunevad, läbvivad, sest need kes ju valitsuse tipuudes protsendiliselt omavahel koos rohkem aega veetma peaks, asjade arusaamiseks, eriti suuurte eri haaretega nüüd oma tarkusi saame liita
5 January 2017 00:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
võttis paar sauna
naist ka ligi,
tarkuse mõistmiseks,
naist ka ligi,
tarkuse mõistmiseks,
5 January 2017 00:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ütlevad millal nad tagasi astusid, kuid mille nad ära tegid, mis teadvuse avardumise, mis loodi, Sh Euroopa loomise idee mille sakslane Pülvas kirja kirjutama suunati
http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fetv.err.ee%2Fv%2Fpaevakajasaated%2Fsaated%2F44efc0e6-d84e-4648-9899-0e4dfcf094dc%2F25-aastat-eesti-iseseisvuse-taastamisest-aastapaevaintervjuu-peaminister-edgar-savisaarega%23autoplay&h=FAQGDWIgy
http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fetv.err.ee%2Fv%2Fpaevakajasaated%2Fsaated%2F44efc0e6-d84e-4648-9899-0e4dfcf094dc%2F25-aastat-eesti-iseseisvuse-taastamisest-aastapaevaintervjuu-peaminister-edgar-savisaarega%23autoplay&h=FAQGDWIgy
http://etv.err.ee/v/paevakajasaated/saated/44efc0e6-d84e-4648-9899-0e4dfcf094dc/25-aastat-eesti-iseseisvuse-taastamisest-aastapaevaintervjuu-peaminister-edgar-savisaarega#autoplay
5 January 2017 00:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Meta Note
___
24 minutil andis moista,
et mis moodi tol aja eestlased juba teatsid ette ära mida on vaja siin kaitsta, ja ei planeeritud kaitset, ja miks, kuidas oili voimalik, et eesti tavasojavälasedgi ei olnud ette arvestatud selle asja vastas...
meie meedia keskus, teabekesus, k
seda ju on teada, meil, neil et see ajutine on olnud ja
(ega sis päris Eestlane teab ette, et ERR tasemel Lubatakse ainult hoida kuni teatud maani ja siis likvideeritakse enamusele )
___
24 minutil andis moista,
et mis moodi tol aja eestlased juba teatsid ette ära mida on vaja siin kaitsta, ja ei planeeritud kaitset, ja miks, kuidas oili voimalik, et eesti tavasojavälasedgi ei olnud ette arvestatud selle asja vastas...
meie meedia keskus, teabekesus, k
seda ju on teada, meil, neil et see ajutine on olnud ja
(ega sis päris Eestlane teab ette, et ERR tasemel Lubatakse ainult hoida kuni teatud maani ja siis likvideeritakse enamusele )
5 January 2017 00:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kell 22:30 kanti, ytles ka kui ohkorn see olukord on
5 January 2017 00:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mis nimesi ta mainib, kell 21 minutil
5 January 2017 00:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(et praeguste liidritena, kujuta ette kui intelig. org jooni kaudu saaksitre päevast päeva suuri Valelaineid, ... )
5 January 2017 00:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
TAHETI luua, Eesti vabariiki, aga pidi see olema,
..savisaare varjant läks läbi: sest savisaare idee oli saada vaba Eesti
..savisaare varjant läks läbi: sest savisaare idee oli saada vaba Eesti
5 January 2017 00:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Räägib ka, ette, kuidas rünnati vaimselt (minut 17, sellest kuidas ja mis tasemete rynnakutega nemad mpidid pidevalt rinda pistma, sest inimesi saadeti tema juurde lollitama erinevate Piltidega)
http://etv.err.ee/v/paevakajasaated/saated/44efc0e6-d84e-4648-9899-0e4dfcf094dc/25-aastat-eesti-iseseisvuse-taastamisest-aastapaevaintervjuu-peaminister-edgar-savisaarega#autoplay
http://etv.err.ee/v/paevakajasaated/saated/44efc0e6-d84e-4648-9899-0e4dfcf094dc/25-aastat-eesti-iseseisvuse-taastamisest-aastapaevaintervjuu-peaminister-edgar-savisaarega#autoplay
http://etv.err.ee/v/paevakajasaated/saated/44efc0e6-d84e-4648-9899-0e4dfcf094dc/25-aastat-eesti-iseseisvuse-taastamisest-aastapaevaintervjuu-peaminister-edgar-savisaarega#autoplay
5 January 2017 00:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Samal ajal tuleb ETV'st Ghana Doc, shea võie valmistamise tehasest, mis palju edukam ja võimekate naistega
4 January 2017 22:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid üks hing Sai ju päästetud ja see ongi hea, et õnnestus.
Kahju, et ainult lillelist lõhna eestist maha jätta ei saanud ja meie teravate kyynte, tewrase tugevuse ilu , meeldivas toonis. See ALATI oluline, parandada kõik enne kui lahkuda..
Kahju, et ainult lillelist lõhna eestist maha jätta ei saanud ja meie teravate kyynte, tewrase tugevuse ilu , meeldivas toonis. See ALATI oluline, parandada kõik enne kui lahkuda..
4 January 2017 22:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
to serve alcohol like that was also great mistake
wrong music also and additude
wrong music also and additude
4 January 2017 22:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
if you get in conflict with one local, you can forget busines at times, but to fire local with bossy bitchy additude.. was probably last drop..
But then again, these are just logical reasons,
But then again, these are just logical reasons,
4 January 2017 22:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sa tahad, et inimesed oleks kellaajapealt seal kus nad alati olla ei taha ja et
4 January 2017 22:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kohviku ülespanek pole lihtsalt raamistiku ülespanemine,
4 January 2017 22:17
Margus Meigo replied to Kalle Kukk's comment.
ei tea, kas piraat äppiga tuleb valeraha
4 January 2017 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Küll Sul ikka meetotid :p
4 January 2017 15:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and even in õnne 13 had some killing blotting in .. what a world.. in HOLIDAY time?
Is people up got half retarded, to not know what it means in these times, how it is working with people..
But more.. it is also clear warning when we need to see, that something is wrong...
Is people up got half retarded, to not know what it means in these times, how it is working with people..
But more.. it is also clear warning when we need to see, that something is wrong...
4 January 2017 14:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(in NEW year, ... some these kind of movies and shows, in TV ??))
4 January 2017 14:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Menu: HD / Subtitles, for English
On video
On video
4 January 2017 14:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but at same time, there was many other groups, who lived with all the benefits and did biz and no one touched them.. no idea for what they was used or by what protected for reasons, or for pure chance
4 January 2017 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Well, he got Can a Coce with only 5 dollars
and ..he must be lucky on it, must understand what Coce meant on these people, where in few years before You can eventually end up being dead (if you start on about "not your biz" and "my rights" BS on these times) or at least life made really unpleasant for not disclosing where you get Coce from, ... and just to HAVE dollars, was already a big crime, for sure was a person smart to go away with it..
and ..he must be lucky on it, must understand what Coce meant on these people, where in few years before You can eventually end up being dead (if you start on about "not your biz" and "my rights" BS on these times) or at least life made really unpleasant for not disclosing where you get Coce from, ... and just to HAVE dollars, was already a big crime, for sure was a person smart to go away with it..
4 January 2017 14:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Really translator people, You let in Language's,
have THSE kind of mistakes, where love becomes unlove, moreexactly "to the love"
unfortunate, that mistakes like that (what is) world high-level importance(,) is not known (that) many leaders to(o) openly acnoladge the importance of fixing these kind of half developments, to correct destination.
have THSE kind of mistakes, where love becomes unlove, moreexactly "to the love"
unfortunate, that mistakes like that (what is) world high-level importance(,) is not known (that) many leaders to(o) openly acnoladge the importance of fixing these kind of half developments, to correct destination.
4 January 2017 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
4 January 2017 02:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So it is in German to,
Armastuses: in der Liebe
https://translate.google.com/#nl/de/verliefd%0Aliefde%20verliefd
Armastuses: in der Liebe
https://translate.google.com/#nl/de/verliefd%0Aliefde%20verliefd
https://translate.google.com/#nl/de/verliefd%0Aliefde%20verliefd
4 January 2017 02:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehk siis On ja Ei ole, staadiumis,
ehk oleks pidanud, või kahju, et nii oli, ja siis kahjust edasi kinni hoida? ... "Mis sul arus.." ei ole rahvasõna kõlks, vaid sõna otseses mõttes, seda ka vanastio juba arstlikult öeldi tagasihoidliku viisakusega..
ehk oleks pidanud, või kahju, et nii oli, ja siis kahjust edasi kinni hoida? ... "Mis sul arus.." ei ole rahvasõna kõlks, vaid sõna otseses mõttes, seda ka vanastio juba arstlikult öeldi tagasihoidliku viisakusega..
4 January 2017 02:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kahetsus, ehk kahte pidi mõtlemine, on isenesest loomulikuks saanud tänapäeval, kunagi.
Kuid kui öeldakse, mida siin enam kahetseda või mis siin enam kahetseda, siis valetatakse, sest ütlema oleks, et mida sa Siin mõtled kahte pidi, sest mitte kahetsuses polnud mure endas vaid kahtepidi mõtlemises, mis on kahetsemine , kuid märgatakse ainult siis kui mingis olukorras on võimalused digitaalsed
Kuid kui öeldakse, mida siin enam kahetseda või mis siin enam kahetseda, siis valetatakse, sest ütlema oleks, et mida sa Siin mõtled kahte pidi, sest mitte kahetsuses polnud mure endas vaid kahtepidi mõtlemises, mis on kahetsemine , kuid märgatakse ainult siis kui mingis olukorras on võimalused digitaalsed
4 January 2017 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Või siis lausest, "Armastuses olles, ..."
Armastuses on armumine lubatud
või Armastuses ei kahetseta
armastuses, ei ole ...
Armastuses on armumine lubatud
või Armastuses ei kahetseta
armastuses, ei ole ...
4 January 2017 02:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja see kes ei soovi, täis kohupiima turgu teha, ainult siin mõne nips asja osas soovivad pakkumist teha ja kohukeste, nendega solvumise eelhoiatusena lõpetame läbirääkimised
4 January 2017 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(majandus lisade abi's'i)
Kauss Piimameister oTTo KohuPiima ja koduploomimoosiga, mugavalt ette pandud, kaküsite siis, kas SELLIST toodet soovite,
Meil sedamitmes astmes ja formaadis. Ka kohukestena, mis omakordaomatoote liin ka, kuid siin veel eri kohupiima sotsnikust kuni muude mahlasemateni, rullbiskviit.
Kuid siis ikkagi,keskenduda uuesti PÕHI toote juurde,
Kohupiim, poolmagus ja tavaline, nüüd juba mustika ja maasikaLise päris moosiga
Andmaks veel mõlemasuuna maguselisusi edasi
Otto Veel
Kauss Piimameister oTTo KohuPiima ja koduploomimoosiga, mugavalt ette pandud, kaküsite siis, kas SELLIST toodet soovite,
Meil sedamitmes astmes ja formaadis. Ka kohukestena, mis omakordaomatoote liin ka, kuid siin veel eri kohupiima sotsnikust kuni muude mahlasemateni, rullbiskviit.
Kuid siis ikkagi,keskenduda uuesti PÕHI toote juurde,
Kohupiim, poolmagus ja tavaline, nüüd juba mustika ja maasikaLise päris moosiga
Andmaks veel mõlemasuuna maguselisusi edasi
Otto Veel
4 January 2017 02:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
probably some virtual reality thingy
4 January 2017 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Wau, see uus tase
3 January 2017 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on Iona Miller's post.
Group: Esoteric Knowledge & Occult Science
Tf Ti3 January 2017 22:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mitte, et me jumalaseljataga olles eriti kaitset vaimses mõttes vajaksime, aga maises mõttes võiks küll suts end üles vuntsida maaima silmade ees
3 January 2017 12:30
Margus Meigo replied to Monet Durrow's comment.
as long you not damage Your antennas down or below, or damage body ... then ability should become more clear and meaningful with life purpose .. but if left unused, then someone else in you can use it,
at sometimes in between(between the worlds..), one needs to be used, to use, and for reason to serve, to rule, for reason to become free, in the end, soon after everyone is on the road to freedom
and we always in between, as long we do anything human at all, as then You remember in heart, the direction where we need to go, in God
at sometimes in between(between the worlds..), one needs to be used, to use, and for reason to serve, to rule, for reason to become free, in the end, soon after everyone is on the road to freedom
and we always in between, as long we do anything human at all, as then You remember in heart, the direction where we need to go, in God
3 January 2017 06:20
Margus Meigo replied to Monet Durrow's comment.
as he told, it is normal
3 January 2017 06:16
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
yea but not so easy, as just in mind and grow there.. not sure about it jet, not convinced
3 January 2017 05:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 January 2017 05:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
...kuhu küll kõik mehed jäid
3 January 2017 05:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 January 2017 05:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 January 2017 05:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
on minute 10: important to make pic...what kind of..
and before that... mother with kid...and you have to stay robot like that?
and before that... mother with kid...and you have to stay robot like that?
3 January 2017 05:10
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Singing " I was trying to find a Light in Your Soul,
now i myself walking in darkness "
"And when time comes to our hands,i will stay with You, if this (happens to be) what is just wishing you"
now i myself walking in darkness "
"And when time comes to our hands,i will stay with You, if this (happens to be) what is just wishing you"
3 January 2017 04:59
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
https://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/kuhu-kull-koik-lilled-jaid
https://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/kuhu-kull-koik-lilled-jaid
3 January 2017 04:56
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
oh, i looked it was song "Where is, all the evil gone"
3 January 2017 04:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid nendest küll
3 January 2017 04:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See siin komentaariDEs muidugi ei olnud üks neist
3 January 2017 04:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Last section, : so many groups was given some temptation attack against their enemy that they imagined so .. not even know jet was it gossip about it opposite way or in correct way.
Simple scheme is: agents infiltrate human worlds, and on moments when they can then some bad attack good and then infiltrated ones have agents in that spread intentional half truth with slight or full falsehood, and disrepair or stay, as humans, or tourists,
and say, what is agreed in a common program to be told to all .. .generation in generation,
in them a program, on going, elementary work, Hyptnotize all in one go, in one landing in all worlds would be half impossible with out useless damage and unknowings,
but with continues thousands of years spreading and seeding, even if not planned so long, is worth to get at least resources what is needed, out from their home, (eg. crystals out from planet)
so if nothing else, for our own strength, then they will get weaker when they would need any of it and there is lack of this or that.
Not that worry is them build like a Death Star Trek but just, even holding ground and power over a organizations, who do and share stuff.
But it should not be allowed in any country, for a company to tell and say where gov want to do anything they wan t to do with their people in their Land
Simple scheme is: agents infiltrate human worlds, and on moments when they can then some bad attack good and then infiltrated ones have agents in that spread intentional half truth with slight or full falsehood, and disrepair or stay, as humans, or tourists,
and say, what is agreed in a common program to be told to all .. .generation in generation,
in them a program, on going, elementary work, Hyptnotize all in one go, in one landing in all worlds would be half impossible with out useless damage and unknowings,
but with continues thousands of years spreading and seeding, even if not planned so long, is worth to get at least resources what is needed, out from their home, (eg. crystals out from planet)
so if nothing else, for our own strength, then they will get weaker when they would need any of it and there is lack of this or that.
Not that worry is them build like a Death Star Trek but just, even holding ground and power over a organizations, who do and share stuff.
But it should not be allowed in any country, for a company to tell and say where gov want to do anything they wan t to do with their people in their Land
3 January 2017 04:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So this about Sebi, was looking like he would have done this, what old time country people did, tricking upper class to eat unhealthy, by hoping, they die out...
but in the end it was bringing "hukkatuse" to them self,
and also, some are wondering, why Põllumajandus was taken under attack,
if they used it as weapon to eat them self good and recommend fashions for upper class to eat unhealthy ,
in hope they die out
as they was seem to be no good, but just because they also, was infiltrated.. by this maybe country people them self, was making mistake, and forcing upper people to be even more unhealthy settings and on wronger less smarter food, so the direction what need to go human direction was getting even less support, as our own hybid or what ever kind of humans, up there, did not get our food love in a period, allowing ship to turn even more crooked.
In country man hopes, that then when they Crooked enought we Rise and make it alright,
but forgetting, another levels and that situation is messed up maybe in many level,s ... maybe...
and if in not, then in many levels inside that level what most people call life and culture inside it, that we assume has been and can be
but in the end it was bringing "hukkatuse" to them self,
and also, some are wondering, why Põllumajandus was taken under attack,
if they used it as weapon to eat them self good and recommend fashions for upper class to eat unhealthy ,
in hope they die out
as they was seem to be no good, but just because they also, was infiltrated.. by this maybe country people them self, was making mistake, and forcing upper people to be even more unhealthy settings and on wronger less smarter food, so the direction what need to go human direction was getting even less support, as our own hybid or what ever kind of humans, up there, did not get our food love in a period, allowing ship to turn even more crooked.
In country man hopes, that then when they Crooked enought we Rise and make it alright,
but forgetting, another levels and that situation is messed up maybe in many level,s ... maybe...
and if in not, then in many levels inside that level what most people call life and culture inside it, that we assume has been and can be
3 January 2017 03:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
then bfore all get good, and in Order, the other ones who still have to much power will force on looking as it would be time for attack again before softers develop extreme protection, in peace
3 January 2017 03:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I know some think for revenge trick people might recommend wrong health that over time would make another kind of effect.
For some forces ... is not safe if around them people do not eat or eat some kind of food, in every time,
in some time, society have to be fixed before, and yes, fixing is related to food,
but if in wrong order food is not ingested that is believed to give protection from another devils,
For some forces ... is not safe if around them people do not eat or eat some kind of food, in every time,
in some time, society have to be fixed before, and yes, fixing is related to food,
but if in wrong order food is not ingested that is believed to give protection from another devils,
3 January 2017 03:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 January 2017 03:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(in some way, society is, just thinking out loud, was thinking, what would be nice average diagnose, for human species, whiteout insulting, and allowing right kind of cure by naming the direction more in to right direction )
3 January 2017 03:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in some way like 14's for life with slight lifetime shamed issues, .... sound society people diagnose
by Harju Keskmise ("Harju middle" in measurments)
Konservatiivne Harjumaa
by Harju Keskmise ("Harju middle" in measurments)
Konservatiivne Harjumaa
3 January 2017 03:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
among friends
3 January 2017 03:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
In England when i speak normal just slight version of heart, they started, even the women, telling me like i would be pornographic or naughty but it is normal,
maybe not in spiritual level, if not fully realized, but generally, even, in purpose, highlighted noticeable slight erotic public flirt humor sounded for UK people like something really serious out of extraordinary
maybe not in spiritual level, if not fully realized, but generally, even, in purpose, highlighted noticeable slight erotic public flirt humor sounded for UK people like something really serious out of extraordinary
3 January 2017 03:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
It is not normal True way in Our old Culture
but inside our culture is many nice naughty things,
like naked saunas and swimming naked, and these things are not even considered naughty for normal Estonians,
For Every Normal elementary Estonian
Estonian Ministry of Foreign Affairs / Välisministeerium
but inside our culture is many nice naughty things,
like naked saunas and swimming naked, and these things are not even considered naughty for normal Estonians,
For Every Normal elementary Estonian
Estonian Ministry of Foreign Affairs / Välisministeerium
3 January 2017 02:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Just wonder, how is it in Your culture, and worlds around ?
3 January 2017 02:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
On Right, the Purgatory and Picture with
VIP
is it correct
VIP
is it correct
3 January 2017 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 January 2017 02:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
if you ask not awake women, if women can know all, they have to take many proofs and pills, even, to start to belive that about them self
3 January 2017 02:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
meaning, if to ask from awake Women, what they know, is not reasonable,
3 January 2017 02:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Meaning, Proverbs 8:29
That women IS " Knowledge "
That women IS " Knowledge "
3 January 2017 02:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 January 2017 02:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Obonye Bella Gake rather i would want to know, how do You kno
3 January 2017 02:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(just for third eyes)
3 January 2017 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 January 2017 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Or was it openly, ironical, inside openly also public humiliation with not truth or using truth badly, is one of the way Liberals inflatrate
3 January 2017 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So i thought, was it like, Did they mean, that ironically also,
same time, passing info, for self kind, to understand ans own alternative media Layer of information
same time, passing info, for self kind, to understand ans own alternative media Layer of information
3 January 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Dominates in UK,
And Rules Us.
And Rules Us.
3 January 2017 02:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
It says:
"Related News
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"Related News
Fantasy dominates at the UK box office – and rules supreme in the Us
10 hours ago | The Guardian - Film News
3 January 2017 02:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 January 2017 02:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Roger Steel
3 January 2017 02:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Bella Obonye Bella Gake, Did You really like?
3 January 2017 02:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 January 2017 02:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eesti Teadvuse Organisatsiooniga kokkuviimine,
Kuid, selle tarbeks pead olema valmis Püüdma,
edasi arendama maailma paar sammu,
siis saad ju iseenesest mõistetavalt kaasa kui neid asju paremaksaitad teha mis Sinu võimuses on Usaldades,
mitte oma asja kinni jäädes.
Vaata arvatakse, et mida heam inimene, seda rohkem raha tal on, kuigi, eks igast skeemide ja sunniväega ka mõned endal rikkust hoiavad, kuid päris suured summad, siis juba peab ka sundimise klassis erilisem olema, et võrreldavat summat hoida,
kuid ka siis, Rojaalsete silmis, tavarahva arvates, need saavad kõntsad olla, sest vägipätitegudega hoiavad suure töö või illusiooniga, endal ajutist ilma reaalse perekonna puuta m(ulli)
Kuid, selle tarbeks pead olema valmis Püüdma,
edasi arendama maailma paar sammu,
siis saad ju iseenesest mõistetavalt kaasa kui neid asju paremaksaitad teha mis Sinu võimuses on Usaldades,
mitte oma asja kinni jäädes.
Vaata arvatakse, et mida heam inimene, seda rohkem raha tal on, kuigi, eks igast skeemide ja sunniväega ka mõned endal rikkust hoiavad, kuid päris suured summad, siis juba peab ka sundimise klassis erilisem olema, et võrreldavat summat hoida,
kuid ka siis, Rojaalsete silmis, tavarahva arvates, need saavad kõntsad olla, sest vägipätitegudega hoiavad suure töö või illusiooniga, endal ajutist ilma reaalse perekonna puuta m(ulli)
3 January 2017 02:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jah, Kriit, endiselt
3 January 2017 02:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Võiks olla mingi oma postide disainimise ja välja toomise, selgitamise, tag'imise linkimise jms kasutmaise võimalused ju adekvaatsemad kui lihtsalt mingitki pidi välja toomiseks oma postile Laidgi panemine, ka toimib mingis mõttes, osadelegi
3 January 2017 02:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(Märked piltides, mida praegune kirjutuspilt kuidas välja annab, seda kuidas ja mis silte ja milliste klikide taga näed, hakkad nägema siis rohkem, kui nett valmis saab, ja see ongi alles virtuaalsesse maailma tõmbamise algus, kus kõik nii selge ja arusaadav on, et Soovitki olla, ... kuid see soovitud olla, sellel on soov olla Looduslikult)
3 January 2017 02:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Et Eesti Wikipeedia rahvastiku arusaama reguleerimine, selles osas, kuidas 5T aasta pärast ennast Näidata tahame ja millisele keelele mis moodi ennast disainida, kellele mis vaatepilt, seda teised maad suured juba ammu teevad, Muidugi osade maade valmidus on päris massiline, Philipiinide eest näiteks näeib nagu kirjutatakse terve ajalugu valmis ja ette ning teadmised, ehk vajalikus Arusaamas
3 January 2017 02:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Osad osad siia ka kirja, nagu selle mälude asjadega on, tänapäeval teooria, et ei lubata hoida, kuid see hoopis selle alumise postituse, dimensioonide teema juurde käiv lisa juba, millest praegu ei räägi.
Esiteks, Wikimedia Eesti, Let's Do it World
(Why Let's Do ei näita``? Sellised tehnilised vead, kohamkused ja lohakused, arengu puudused, takerduvad jalus ja aitavad takerduda arengul Edasi nii Sirgjoonelise kui ArmastuselPõhinevaid Arenguid )
Esiteks, Wikimedia Eesti, Let's Do it World
(Why Let's Do ei näita``? Sellised tehnilised vead, kohamkused ja lohakused, arengu puudused, takerduvad jalus ja aitavad takerduda arengul Edasi nii Sirgjoonelise kui ArmastuselPõhinevaid Arenguid )
3 January 2017 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
actually there is many, and many waiting to become in ordinary work
3 January 2017 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
sorry about the pentagram on the picture, the Comp tec is so low, that Communism symbolism elimination or safeguarding is not jet implemented
3 January 2017 02:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(ühe sama Dimensiooni, mõõtmete mis osalt nii erladi dimensioonid juba tunduvad kes iganes millisesse sisse ennast võlub või siis selgelt Tunnetab
Dimensiooni ülemärkimise testi mustand:
/Muusika palades ainuüksi liikumise Dimensiaalsus/
/Dimensioon mis tundub, et ainult sirg jooneliselt edasi areneb/
/Viimase dimensiooni kaks versiooni: Üks teoreetiline, kes arvab, et kaks versiooni on olemas ja nende all ka need kes arvavad, et mitu, JA siis need kes teavad, suure T ga, et ainult üks suund saab olla pideval Arengul väikese a'ga, ehk sirg joonelises edasi ja rohkem tegemise hoo vajalikusesse pidama jääv, see kes saab küll aru Arnegu vajalikusest, et asjad valmis saaks, kuid ei saa aru millal ja mis moodi olla kui mingid arengud on juba valmis ja tuleks Edasi liikuda, kuid kes liiguvad edasi, ilma, et plaaniksitki välja mõtlema hakata, mis see lõpp suund ja asukoha mõte on, /)
Dimensiooni ülemärkimise testi mustand:
/Muusika palades ainuüksi liikumise Dimensiaalsus/
/Dimensioon mis tundub, et ainult sirg jooneliselt edasi areneb/
/Viimase dimensiooni kaks versiooni: Üks teoreetiline, kes arvab, et kaks versiooni on olemas ja nende all ka need kes arvavad, et mitu, JA siis need kes teavad, suure T ga, et ainult üks suund saab olla pideval Arengul väikese a'ga, ehk sirg joonelises edasi ja rohkem tegemise hoo vajalikusesse pidama jääv, see kes saab küll aru Arnegu vajalikusest, et asjad valmis saaks, kuid ei saa aru millal ja mis moodi olla kui mingid arengud on juba valmis ja tuleks Edasi liikuda, kuid kes liiguvad edasi, ilma, et plaaniksitki välja mõtlema hakata, mis see lõpp suund ja asukoha mõte on, /)
3 January 2017 02:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 January 2017 01:56
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3 January 2017 01:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Isegi Lu CK. Vaatab " Oo jee! " (nagu selles 90 nda rannamhelikus laulus)
ja Nüd, kui sellest veel aste edasi:
(ja siinkohal jääb tegemata, see töö lõpuni, sest just ütlesin )
ja Nüd, kui sellest veel aste edasi:
(ja siinkohal jääb tegemata, see töö lõpuni, sest just ütlesin )
3 January 2017 01:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oUff8Cq64E
(Ei ups mitte see)
(Ei ups mitte see)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oUff8Cq64E
3 January 2017 01:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
3 January 2017 01:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#Paremattea
3 January 2017 01:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
USA, RUSSIA, CHINA(+asia friends), UK, Africa, Latin America..., Canada-Australia umm.. no, EU's was before that. and then Scandinavia, France, Italy?
3 January 2017 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Well,
Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency - DARPA first of all, NSA long time ago, from really beginning turned positive in my field,
and Now, seems CIA heart has been turned in to Positive also, with also help of public image, that comes on time.
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has even friendlier image then Kgb but FSB (Russia) has still more serious folk with much less public action (media bytes per info %), FSB (Russia) outer feeling also has been own way strongly advanced in respectful manner, intelligent manner, serious manner but not as serious as Asia communist giants. Little bit more away from pure hard cold psychological dark magic and force to a technological and intellectual calmness about their self identity and information pagdage what they can use if anyone should ever challenge their worth.
Not related, but when bully also feels secured and no need to prove it self then pully is also safer at time when one starts to mature more.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1489889/
Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency - DARPA first of all, NSA long time ago, from really beginning turned positive in my field,
and Now, seems CIA heart has been turned in to Positive also, with also help of public image, that comes on time.
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has even friendlier image then Kgb but FSB (Russia) has still more serious folk with much less public action (media bytes per info %), FSB (Russia) outer feeling also has been own way strongly advanced in respectful manner, intelligent manner, serious manner but not as serious as Asia communist giants. Little bit more away from pure hard cold psychological dark magic and force to a technological and intellectual calmness about their self identity and information pagdage what they can use if anyone should ever challenge their worth.
Not related, but when bully also feels secured and no need to prove it self then pully is also safer at time when one starts to mature more.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1489889/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1489889/
3 January 2017 01:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
from where did You pull that
https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZlE0wZ8YlsYd74B0kiCVtPfrlkOHsOTsdy
https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZlE0wZ8YlsYd74B0kiCVtPfrlkOHsOTsdy
https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZlE0wZ8YlsYd74B0kiCVtPfrlkOHsOTsdy
3 January 2017 00:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Click on Settings : HD : Captions
To see HD Quality and Subtitles in English
To see HD Quality and Subtitles in English
3 January 2017 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Better "Internets"
Better site logic and usage elements, and info's
Better site logic and usage elements, and info's
2 January 2017 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbrDbwrCnNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbrDbwrCnNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbrDbwrCnNc
2 January 2017 14:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Bible and
" Who Were the Hittites? What Was the Origin of the Hittites? Where Did the Hittites Live in Relation to Israel?
Though rather obscure in the scope of world history, the Hittite nation played an important role in the history of the Old Testament, and has since helped verify the accuracy of the Bible. For many years, archaeologists and historians knew nothing of the Hittites, and critics of the Bible treated the Hittites as proof of the “mythology” contained in the Bible. The critics reasoned that, since they had no archaeological evidence of a Hittite civilization, it must never have existed, and the Bible must perforce be wrong. However, many archaeological discoveries, beginning in 1876, have since proved that the Hittites were a powerful people in the 15th and 16th centuries B.C.
The Hittites are mentioned more than 50 times in the Bible. They were descended from Heth, the son of Canaan (and great-grandson of Noah, Genesis 10:15). They ruled the area of Syria and eastern Turkey and battled with Egypt and Babylon for territory. Babylonian and Assyrian records refer to Syria and Palestine as "Hatti-land," and Joshua 1:4 includes their territory as a great part of the Promised Land for Israel. Abraham was well acquainted with the Hittites, and he bought the burial cave for Sarah from them in Genesis 23. Esau took wives from among the Hittites (Genesis 26:34), and Uriah the Hittite was one of David's mighty men (2 Samuel 11:3). The Hittites are mentioned throughout the kingdom years and even after the Jews’ return from captivity (Ezra 9:1). It is assumed that the Hittites were eventually absorbed into the surrounding cultures and lost their distinctive identity.
The religion of the Hittites was a pluralistic worship of nature. They believed in various gods over the elements of earth, sky, weather, etc., and these gods were often listed as witnesses on treaties and oaths. As in most other pagan societies, this nature worship led to despicable practices which brought the wrath of the true God on them. When God delivered Canaan to the Israelites, one of the given reasons for destroying the inhabitants was to eliminate the pagan practices which would ensnare God’s people (Exodus 23:28-33). God didn't want His people following the idolatry of the Hittites.
The descriptions of land transactions and personal covenants recorded in Genesis bear a strong resemblance to Hittite records discovered by archaeologists. King Telepinus was the greatest Hittite legislator, and his law codes bear a striking resemblance to the order and arrangement of the Law of Moses, although the subject matter is different. The discoveries concerning the Hittite kingdom have been a great support to the details recorded in the Bible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1Id-AM1rBI
" Who Were the Hittites? What Was the Origin of the Hittites? Where Did the Hittites Live in Relation to Israel?
Though rather obscure in the scope of world history, the Hittite nation played an important role in the history of the Old Testament, and has since helped verify the accuracy of the Bible. For many years, archaeologists and historians knew nothing of the Hittites, and critics of the Bible treated the Hittites as proof of the “mythology” contained in the Bible. The critics reasoned that, since they had no archaeological evidence of a Hittite civilization, it must never have existed, and the Bible must perforce be wrong. However, many archaeological discoveries, beginning in 1876, have since proved that the Hittites were a powerful people in the 15th and 16th centuries B.C.
The Hittites are mentioned more than 50 times in the Bible. They were descended from Heth, the son of Canaan (and great-grandson of Noah, Genesis 10:15). They ruled the area of Syria and eastern Turkey and battled with Egypt and Babylon for territory. Babylonian and Assyrian records refer to Syria and Palestine as "Hatti-land," and Joshua 1:4 includes their territory as a great part of the Promised Land for Israel. Abraham was well acquainted with the Hittites, and he bought the burial cave for Sarah from them in Genesis 23. Esau took wives from among the Hittites (Genesis 26:34), and Uriah the Hittite was one of David's mighty men (2 Samuel 11:3). The Hittites are mentioned throughout the kingdom years and even after the Jews’ return from captivity (Ezra 9:1). It is assumed that the Hittites were eventually absorbed into the surrounding cultures and lost their distinctive identity.
The religion of the Hittites was a pluralistic worship of nature. They believed in various gods over the elements of earth, sky, weather, etc., and these gods were often listed as witnesses on treaties and oaths. As in most other pagan societies, this nature worship led to despicable practices which brought the wrath of the true God on them. When God delivered Canaan to the Israelites, one of the given reasons for destroying the inhabitants was to eliminate the pagan practices which would ensnare God’s people (Exodus 23:28-33). God didn't want His people following the idolatry of the Hittites.
The descriptions of land transactions and personal covenants recorded in Genesis bear a strong resemblance to Hittite records discovered by archaeologists. King Telepinus was the greatest Hittite legislator, and his law codes bear a striking resemblance to the order and arrangement of the Law of Moses, although the subject matter is different. The discoveries concerning the Hittite kingdom have been a great support to the details recorded in the Bible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1Id-AM1rBI
2 January 2017 06:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
maybe to,
"According to Haak et al. (2015), "Eastern European hunter-gatherers" who inhabited today's Russia were distinctive population of hunter-gatherers with high affinity to a ~24,000-year-old Siberian from Mal'ta-Buret' culture, or other, closely related people from Siberia.[2][web 1] Remains of the "Eastern European hunter-gatherers" have been found in Mesolithic or early Neolithic sites in Karelia and Samara Oblast, Russia, and put under analysis. Three such hunter-gathering individuals of the male sex have had their DNA results published. Each was found to belong to a different Y-DNA haplogroup: R1a, R1b, and J.[5] R1b is also the most common Y-DNA haplogroup found among both the Yamnaya and modern-day Western Europeans.[2][6]
Near East population
See also: Maykop culture, Kura-Araxes culture, and Leyla-Tepe culture
The Near East population were most likely hunter-gatherers from the Caucasus (CHG)[3] c.q. Iran Chalcolithic related people with a CHG-component.[4]
Jones et al. (2015) analyzed genomes from males from western Georgia, in the Caucasus, from the Late Upper Palaeolithic (13,300 years old) and the Mesolithic (9,700 years old). These two males carried Y-DNA haplogroup: J* and J2a. The researchers found that these Caucasus hunters were probably the source of the farmer-like DNA in the Yamnaya, as the Caucasians were distantly related to the Middle Eastern people who introduced farming in Europe.[web 1] Their genomes showed that a continued mixture of the Caucasians with Middle Eastern took place up to 25,000 years ago, when the coldest period in the last Ice Age started
"According to Haak et al. (2015), "Eastern European hunter-gatherers" who inhabited today's Russia were distinctive population of hunter-gatherers with high affinity to a ~24,000-year-old Siberian from Mal'ta-Buret' culture, or other, closely related people from Siberia.[2][web 1] Remains of the "Eastern European hunter-gatherers" have been found in Mesolithic or early Neolithic sites in Karelia and Samara Oblast, Russia, and put under analysis. Three such hunter-gathering individuals of the male sex have had their DNA results published. Each was found to belong to a different Y-DNA haplogroup: R1a, R1b, and J.[5] R1b is also the most common Y-DNA haplogroup found among both the Yamnaya and modern-day Western Europeans.[2][6]
Near East population
See also: Maykop culture, Kura-Araxes culture, and Leyla-Tepe culture
The Near East population were most likely hunter-gatherers from the Caucasus (CHG)[3] c.q. Iran Chalcolithic related people with a CHG-component.[4]
Jones et al. (2015) analyzed genomes from males from western Georgia, in the Caucasus, from the Late Upper Palaeolithic (13,300 years old) and the Mesolithic (9,700 years old). These two males carried Y-DNA haplogroup: J* and J2a. The researchers found that these Caucasus hunters were probably the source of the farmer-like DNA in the Yamnaya, as the Caucasians were distantly related to the Middle Eastern people who introduced farming in Europe.[web 1] Their genomes showed that a continued mixture of the Caucasians with Middle Eastern took place up to 25,000 years ago, when the coldest period in the last Ice Age started
2 January 2017 06:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Yamna or Yamnaya culture, also called Pit Grave Culture and Ochre Grave Culture, was a late Copper Age/early Bronze Age culture of the Southern Bug/Dniester/Ural region (the Pontic steppe), dating to 3,500 – 2,300 BCE. The Yamna culture is identified with the late Proto-Indo-Europeans, and is the strongest candidate for the Urheimat (homeland) of the Proto-Indo-European language.
Yamna and Yamnaya are borrowed from Ukrainian: Ямна культура and Russian: Ямная культура respectively, and both mean "pit-grave". The root in both cases is яма (yama) meaning "pit".
The people of the Yamnaya culture were the likely result of admixture between eastern European hunter-gatherers (via whom they also descend from the Mal'ta-Buret' culture or other, closely related people) and a Near Eastern people,[2] with some research identifying the latter as hunter-gatherers from the Caucasus[3] and other a Chalcolithic population from what is now Iran.[4] Their culture is materially very similar to that of the people of the Afanasevo culture, their contemporaries in the Altai Mountains; furthermore, genetic tests have confirmed that the two groups are genetically indistinguishable.[2]
They are also closely connected to later, Bronze Age cultures which spread throughout Europe and Central Asia, especially the Corded Ware people, but also the Bell Beakers as well as the peoples of the Sintashta, Andronovo, and Srubna cultures. In these groups, there are present several aspects of the Yamna culture (e.g., horse-riding, burial styles, and to some extent the pastoralist economy). Studies have also established that these populations derived large parts of their ancestry from the steppes
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The Yamna culture originated in the Don-Volga area, and is dated 3300-2500 BCE.[7] It was preceded by the middle Volga-based Khvalynsk culture and the Don-based Repin culture (ca.3950-3300 BCE),[8] and late pottery from these two cultures can barely be distinguished from early Yamna pottery.
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Yamna and Yamnaya are borrowed from Ukrainian: Ямна культура and Russian: Ямная культура respectively, and both mean "pit-grave". The root in both cases is яма (yama) meaning "pit".
The people of the Yamnaya culture were the likely result of admixture between eastern European hunter-gatherers (via whom they also descend from the Mal'ta-Buret' culture or other, closely related people) and a Near Eastern people,[2] with some research identifying the latter as hunter-gatherers from the Caucasus[3] and other a Chalcolithic population from what is now Iran.[4] Their culture is materially very similar to that of the people of the Afanasevo culture, their contemporaries in the Altai Mountains; furthermore, genetic tests have confirmed that the two groups are genetically indistinguishable.[2]
They are also closely connected to later, Bronze Age cultures which spread throughout Europe and Central Asia, especially the Corded Ware people, but also the Bell Beakers as well as the peoples of the Sintashta, Andronovo, and Srubna cultures. In these groups, there are present several aspects of the Yamna culture (e.g., horse-riding, burial styles, and to some extent the pastoralist economy). Studies have also established that these populations derived large parts of their ancestry from the steppes
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The Yamna culture originated in the Don-Volga area, and is dated 3300-2500 BCE.[7] It was preceded by the middle Volga-based Khvalynsk culture and the Don-based Repin culture (ca.3950-3300 BCE),[8] and late pottery from these two cultures can barely be distinguished from early Yamna pottery.
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2 January 2017 06:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui arvate, et Eesti kja lõpuks enamus keeled listis pole,
siis eksite,
ja unustatakse, ka, et on tekitatud keeled, kes koostööd teevad, mille põhimote on hoida virtuaalsete keelte küljes või nende mille sisu saadakse eraldi kontrollida
siis eksite,
ja unustatakse, ka, et on tekitatud keeled, kes koostööd teevad, mille põhimote on hoida virtuaalsete keelte küljes või nende mille sisu saadakse eraldi kontrollida
2 January 2017 06:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Thank you for this upload. I wish there were 2-3 millions of Circassians in Turkey but I strongly doubt about that. If you ask me, there are around 500-800 thousand Circassians in Turkey. Nearly %40 are Qabartei(your tribe) and the rest is Shapsığ, Abhzeh, Natuquai, Hatuquai, Jana etc. Wonderful culture, and most of them are really well-mannered people. But the vast majority of the young people do not speak "at all". A real tragedy. In places like Uzun Yayla ad Düzce, Adapazarı etc, there are some villages where young people also speak a bit. Pity to say that the language is dying. Hopefully it will survive in RF. Best Regards"
2 January 2017 06:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mis keeles me teineteist viimati kuulsime, Ah millal see oli Ah millal mis keeles (Tunnete keelest)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_bKeZtdJAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_bKeZtdJAA
2 January 2017 06:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Indo-European ? ahahhaa fuly bulshit yet another crap propaganda.
Hittities were Circassians, Hittities have circassian lang. spoken and circassians have nothing to do with indo-europeans,
Hattushash =
circassian : Hat tu shash ( Hat = lion tu= two shash = city)
mean : two lion city
and all the texts frome Hittities, can Circassians reading and understanding
Hatquai (Hat sohns ) , its a circassian tribe, they living still west caucasia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAUF7mo2epM
Hittities were Circassians, Hittities have circassian lang. spoken and circassians have nothing to do with indo-europeans,
Hattushash =
circassian : Hat tu shash ( Hat = lion tu= two shash = city)
mean : two lion city
and all the texts frome Hittities, can Circassians reading and understanding
Hatquai (Hat sohns ) , its a circassian tribe, they living still west caucasia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAUF7mo2epM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAUF7mo2epM
2 January 2017 05:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Syrians look like carbon copies of Ancient Hittites. It can't be a coincidence
Also look at their flag, they have the Eagle. But your flag has an Arab symbol on it. "
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" You should not deny the German contribution to the beginnings of the modern Greek state, up until even now. Especially, when it comes to the origins of the modern 'Greek' flag. "
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" i never heard hittites borders end in syria, and some wannabes try to reach a conclusion about that. İt remind me some pkk supporters claim about "kurds are coming from ancient folks guttanis, medes bla bla" "
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"Hattuşaş -hattusa- (boğazköy) located çorum, turkey was the capital of hittites, you may come çorum and i bet you can find too many resources, remnants etc, you can google it. is there any in syria? "
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" I can not remember that the Semites (Assyrians) had a share of the population in Central Anatolia. Assyrian roots are deep in Mesopotamia, rather south of Mesopotamia. The Hittites can be seen as the indigenous people of Anatolia, much older than the Assyrians in Mesopotamia. "
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// if we lose th e battle and someone wanna relate someone to mighty Estlanders, what story they will use for our origin then, lets wonder..
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" No, I am saying if anyone has hittite ancestry, it would be more likely that it would be among Syrians and not Turks. Turks may have Anatolian ancestry from Phrygians, Galatians, Lydians, Lycians, and son on.. but Hittites were wiped out in Anatolia. "
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" I can not remember that the Semites (Assyrians) had a share of the population in Central Anatolia. Assyrian roots are deep in Mesopotamia, considerably south of Mesopotamia. The Hittites can be seen as the indigenous people of Anatolia, much older than the Assyrians in Mesopotamia. "
Assyrians=/=Syrians. And you are correct in all of the above. But what I am saying, is that the Hittites in Anatolia were wiped out by other Indo-European invaders, but some managed to flee to Syria.
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" The empire was wiped out, not people. They probably became subjects of the Phrygians "
answer.
"And that is where we disagree. "
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"A major catastrophe occured that wiped out Hittites and caused the collapse of their civilization. What was left of them fled to Syria. The archeological evidence also seem to indicate that what was left of the population of Hattusa picked up their belongings and left. That would make sense if they were starving.
"With the fall of the empire, Hittite fugitives from Anatolia fled to relatively peaceful southern Anatolia and northern Syria, where some measure of Hittite culture could still be found. Neo-Hittite kingdoms arose there, most notably Carchemish, which was ruled by viceroys, sons of the Hittite king starting in the 14th century B.C.E. These kingdoms, which survived the tempestuous period of the 12th century into the first millennium B.C.E., continued Hittite traditions such as monumental inscriptions in Luwian. These are the Hittites whom the biblical author had in mind when labeling some foreigners as Hittites." Review of Hahittim Vetarbutam (The Hittites and Their Civilization), by Itamar Singer The Bialik Institute by Irit Ziffer in Haaretz Books, October 2009 "
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Also look at their flag, they have the Eagle. But your flag has an Arab symbol on it. "
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" You should not deny the German contribution to the beginnings of the modern Greek state, up until even now. Especially, when it comes to the origins of the modern 'Greek' flag. "
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" i never heard hittites borders end in syria, and some wannabes try to reach a conclusion about that. İt remind me some pkk supporters claim about "kurds are coming from ancient folks guttanis, medes bla bla" "
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"Hattuşaş -hattusa- (boğazköy) located çorum, turkey was the capital of hittites, you may come çorum and i bet you can find too many resources, remnants etc, you can google it. is there any in syria? "
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" I can not remember that the Semites (Assyrians) had a share of the population in Central Anatolia. Assyrian roots are deep in Mesopotamia, rather south of Mesopotamia. The Hittites can be seen as the indigenous people of Anatolia, much older than the Assyrians in Mesopotamia. "
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// if we lose th e battle and someone wanna relate someone to mighty Estlanders, what story they will use for our origin then, lets wonder..
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" No, I am saying if anyone has hittite ancestry, it would be more likely that it would be among Syrians and not Turks. Turks may have Anatolian ancestry from Phrygians, Galatians, Lydians, Lycians, and son on.. but Hittites were wiped out in Anatolia. "
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" I can not remember that the Semites (Assyrians) had a share of the population in Central Anatolia. Assyrian roots are deep in Mesopotamia, considerably south of Mesopotamia. The Hittites can be seen as the indigenous people of Anatolia, much older than the Assyrians in Mesopotamia. "
Assyrians=/=Syrians. And you are correct in all of the above. But what I am saying, is that the Hittites in Anatolia were wiped out by other Indo-European invaders, but some managed to flee to Syria.
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" The empire was wiped out, not people. They probably became subjects of the Phrygians "
answer.
"And that is where we disagree. "
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"A major catastrophe occured that wiped out Hittites and caused the collapse of their civilization. What was left of them fled to Syria. The archeological evidence also seem to indicate that what was left of the population of Hattusa picked up their belongings and left. That would make sense if they were starving.
"With the fall of the empire, Hittite fugitives from Anatolia fled to relatively peaceful southern Anatolia and northern Syria, where some measure of Hittite culture could still be found. Neo-Hittite kingdoms arose there, most notably Carchemish, which was ruled by viceroys, sons of the Hittite king starting in the 14th century B.C.E. These kingdoms, which survived the tempestuous period of the 12th century into the first millennium B.C.E., continued Hittite traditions such as monumental inscriptions in Luwian. These are the Hittites whom the biblical author had in mind when labeling some foreigners as Hittites." Review of Hahittim Vetarbutam (The Hittites and Their Civilization), by Itamar Singer The Bialik Institute by Irit Ziffer in Haaretz Books, October 2009 "
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2 January 2017 05:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syro-Hittite_states
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syro-Hittite_states
2 January 2017 05:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and for common some people view:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?125279-Turks-are-not-Hittites
"The Hittites were massacred and displace by the invading Phrygians, however the last remaining Hittites fled to Northern Syria where they formed the Syro-Hittite states, which had a population of Phoenicians, Arameans, and Hittites. So even if Turks somehow have Anatolian heritage, it would be from the Phrygians and others, not the Hittites.
French Anthropologist Georges Roux states in his book Ancient Iraq:
It looks, therefore, as though in the great reshuffling of population which took place in the twelfth century the Hittites[....] has moved, or been pushed southward and eastward in the southern provinces of the former Hittite empire, provinces which had been spared by the Phrygian.
The last part implies that the other parts were not spared by the Phrygians, and thus the Hittites fled to the southeastern portion of the empire. Now lets look at the Hittite empire to see where that is:
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Hmm... Aleppo, Carcemish, Ugarit, Orontes? These are all in Syria.
The Syro Hittites were the last Hittites to exist.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?125279-Turks-are-not-Hittites
"The Hittites were massacred and displace by the invading Phrygians, however the last remaining Hittites fled to Northern Syria where they formed the Syro-Hittite states, which had a population of Phoenicians, Arameans, and Hittites. So even if Turks somehow have Anatolian heritage, it would be from the Phrygians and others, not the Hittites.
French Anthropologist Georges Roux states in his book Ancient Iraq:
It looks, therefore, as though in the great reshuffling of population which took place in the twelfth century the Hittites[....] has moved, or been pushed southward and eastward in the southern provinces of the former Hittite empire, provinces which had been spared by the Phrygian.
The last part implies that the other parts were not spared by the Phrygians, and thus the Hittites fled to the southeastern portion of the empire. Now lets look at the Hittite empire to see where that is:
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Hmm... Aleppo, Carcemish, Ugarit, Orontes? These are all in Syria.
The Syro Hittites were the last Hittites to exist.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?125279-Turks-are-not-Hittites
2 January 2017 05:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
also;
"The Sun goddess of Arinna was originally of Hattian origin and was worshipped by the Hattians at Eštan. One of her Hattian epithets was Wurunšemu ("Mother of the land"?).[2]
From the Hittite Old Kingdom, she was the chief goddess of the Hittite state. The "Gods' city" of Arinna was the site of the coronation of the first Hittite kings and one of the empire's three holy cities. The Hattian name of the goddess was transcribed by the Hittites as Ištanu and Urunzimu. They also invoked her as Arinitti ("The Arinnian"). The epithet "of Arinna" only appears during the Hittite Middle Kingdom, to distinguish the Sun goddess from the male Sun god of Heaven, who had been adopted by the Hittites from interaction with the Hurrians.[3]
During the Hittite New Kingdom, she was identified with the Hurrian-Syrian goddess Ḫepat and the Hittite Queen Puduḫepa mentions her in her prayers using both names:
Sun goddess of Arinna, my lady, queen of all lands! In the Land of Ḫatti, you ordained your name to be the "Sun goddess of Arinna", but also in the land which you have made the land of the cedar, you ordained your name to be Ḫepat.
"The Sun goddess of Arinna was originally of Hattian origin and was worshipped by the Hattians at Eštan. One of her Hattian epithets was Wurunšemu ("Mother of the land"?).[2]
From the Hittite Old Kingdom, she was the chief goddess of the Hittite state. The "Gods' city" of Arinna was the site of the coronation of the first Hittite kings and one of the empire's three holy cities. The Hattian name of the goddess was transcribed by the Hittites as Ištanu and Urunzimu. They also invoked her as Arinitti ("The Arinnian"). The epithet "of Arinna" only appears during the Hittite Middle Kingdom, to distinguish the Sun goddess from the male Sun god of Heaven, who had been adopted by the Hittites from interaction with the Hurrians.[3]
During the Hittite New Kingdom, she was identified with the Hurrian-Syrian goddess Ḫepat and the Hittite Queen Puduḫepa mentions her in her prayers using both names:
Sun goddess of Arinna, my lady, queen of all lands! In the Land of Ḫatti, you ordained your name to be the "Sun goddess of Arinna", but also in the land which you have made the land of the cedar, you ordained your name to be Ḫepat.
2 January 2017 05:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Now, lissten All that from othe rposts, on point of time Look, from various perceptions of possibilities, besides, that time is not so much past and future
and what was them are
and songs try to say some dinesions and.. fragents in purpose saved from past..
and what was them are
and songs try to say some dinesions and.. fragents in purpose saved from past..
2 January 2017 05:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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To English and other roads... from here.. in mix of love that will explain everything unexplained, right>
..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEc19rkkMdg
To English and other roads... from here.. in mix of love that will explain everything unexplained, right>
..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEc19rkkMdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEc19rkkMdg
2 January 2017 05:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N__gZw3DaTo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N__gZw3DaTo
2 January 2017 05:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Miks peab ta ...
"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKVcw9fw22E
Saladust Teab.. ka
"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKVcw9fw22E
Saladust Teab.. ka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKVcw9fw22E
2 January 2017 05:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu proovin ikka selle paberi kätte haarat alopuks, ... ringiga ikk aringiga
2 January 2017 05:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Mis keeles me teineteist viimati kuulsime, Ah millal see oli Ah millal mis keeles..
2 January 2017 05:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
u know http://karuvald.kovtp.ee/valla-ajaleht
http://karuvald.kovtp.ee/valla-ajaleht
2 January 2017 05:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vaat kuulge mida julged patriootliku eu poolsena Selle pollumajanduse kohta
2 January 2017 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Me jumalatelt veel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSzs_JN-4Js
// open Microsoft Eesti Windows 7 Loader by DAZ
1200 Micrograms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSzs_JN-4Js
// open Microsoft Eesti Windows 7 Loader by DAZ
1200 Micrograms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSzs_JN-4Js
2 January 2017 04:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sinu Une näod, Kus Eestlane tuleb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWPhozG9bgA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWPhozG9bgA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWPhozG9bgA
2 January 2017 04:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Upelluri
God of dreams
" In Hurrian mythology, Upelluri was the "dreaming god". Kumarbi placed the stone giant Ullikummi on Upelluri's shoulders to grow up. In his slumber, Upelluri was unaware of his burden. He has been compared to Atlas from Greek mythology. The Hittite counterpart was Ubelluris, a mountain god who carried the western edge of the sky on his shoulders.
See also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf8ltRwFsnY
God of dreams
" In Hurrian mythology, Upelluri was the "dreaming god". Kumarbi placed the stone giant Ullikummi on Upelluri's shoulders to grow up. In his slumber, Upelluri was unaware of his burden. He has been compared to Atlas from Greek mythology. The Hittite counterpart was Ubelluris, a mountain god who carried the western edge of the sky on his shoulders.
See also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf8ltRwFsnY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf8ltRwFsnY
2 January 2017 04:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and from thousands of Gods some:
" The Luwian god of weather and lightning, Pihassassa, may be at the origin of Greek Pegasus. Depictions of hybrid animals (like hippogriffs, chimerae etc.) are typical for the Anatolian art of the period. In the Telipinu myth, the disappearance of Telipinu, god of agriculture and fertility causes all fertility to fail, both plant and animal. This results in devastation and despair among gods and humans alike. In order to stop the havoc and devastation, the gods seek Telipinu but fail to find him. Only a bee sent by the goddess Hannahannah finds Telipinu, and stings him in order to wake him up. However this infuriates Telipinu further and he "diverts the flow of rivers and shatters the houses". In the end, the goddess Kamrusepa uses healing and magic to calm Telipinu after which he returns home and restores the vegetation and fertility. In other references it is a mortal priest who prays for all of Telipinu's anger to be sent to bronze containers in the underworld, of which nothing escapes.[14]
List of Hittite deities[15]
A'as – god of wisdom, derived from the Mesopotamian god Enki (Ea)
Alalus – primordial entity
Apaliunas – tutelary deity of the city of Wilusa
The sun goddess of the city of Arinna - sun goddess and consort of Tarhunt
Arinniti – sun goddess, possibly another name for the sun goddess of the city of Arinna. In the late 14th century BC, King Mursili II was particularly devoted to Arinniti.[16]
Arma – minor moon god (Luwian)
Aruna, god of the sea and son of Kamrusepa
Aserdus – goddess of fertility and wife of Elkunirsa
Elkunirsa – creator god and husband of Aserdus
Ellel – god of the sky. He is invoked in state treaties as a protector of oaths.[17]
Halki – god of grain
Hannahannah – mother goddess (Hurrian)
Hanwasuit – goddess of sovereignty
Hapantali – pastors goddess
Hasameli – god of metalworkers and craftsmen
Hatepuna – daughter of the sea
Huttellurra – collective of midwifery goddesses
Hutena – goddesses of fate, similar to the Moirai
Inara – goddess of the wild animals of the steppe (Hattic)
Irsirra – collective of midwifery goddesses
Ishara – goddess of oaths and love
Istanu – god of the sun and of judgement (from Hattic Eştan)
Istustaya and Papaya – goddesses of destiny
Jarri – god of plague and pestilence, "Lord of the Bow"
Kamrusepa – goddess of healing, medicine and magic
Kaskuh (Kaškuḫ; Kašku) – god of the moon. (Hurrian Kuşuh) The Luwian peoples called him Arma.
Khipa – tutelary deity
Kurunta – god of wild animals and hunting (= Rundas?)
Lelwani – goddess of the underworld (Hattic?)
Pirwa – deity of uncertain nature
Rundas – god of the hunt and good fortune
Sandas – lion god
Sarruma – god of the mountains, son of Teshub and Hebat (Hurrian)
Šauška – goddess of fertility, war and healing (Hurrian)
Sutekh – weather god, possibly another name for Teshub
Suwaliyat – brother of Teshub
Tawara – collective of nursery goddesses
Telipinu – god of farming (Hattic)
Teshub – god of the sky, weather and storms (Hurrian)
Tilla – bull god
Upelluri – god of dreaming (Hurrian)
" The Luwian god of weather and lightning, Pihassassa, may be at the origin of Greek Pegasus. Depictions of hybrid animals (like hippogriffs, chimerae etc.) are typical for the Anatolian art of the period. In the Telipinu myth, the disappearance of Telipinu, god of agriculture and fertility causes all fertility to fail, both plant and animal. This results in devastation and despair among gods and humans alike. In order to stop the havoc and devastation, the gods seek Telipinu but fail to find him. Only a bee sent by the goddess Hannahannah finds Telipinu, and stings him in order to wake him up. However this infuriates Telipinu further and he "diverts the flow of rivers and shatters the houses". In the end, the goddess Kamrusepa uses healing and magic to calm Telipinu after which he returns home and restores the vegetation and fertility. In other references it is a mortal priest who prays for all of Telipinu's anger to be sent to bronze containers in the underworld, of which nothing escapes.[14]
List of Hittite deities[15]
A'as – god of wisdom, derived from the Mesopotamian god Enki (Ea)
Alalus – primordial entity
Apaliunas – tutelary deity of the city of Wilusa
The sun goddess of the city of Arinna - sun goddess and consort of Tarhunt
Arinniti – sun goddess, possibly another name for the sun goddess of the city of Arinna. In the late 14th century BC, King Mursili II was particularly devoted to Arinniti.[16]
Arma – minor moon god (Luwian)
Aruna, god of the sea and son of Kamrusepa
Aserdus – goddess of fertility and wife of Elkunirsa
Elkunirsa – creator god and husband of Aserdus
Ellel – god of the sky. He is invoked in state treaties as a protector of oaths.[17]
Halki – god of grain
Hannahannah – mother goddess (Hurrian)
Hanwasuit – goddess of sovereignty
Hapantali – pastors goddess
Hasameli – god of metalworkers and craftsmen
Hatepuna – daughter of the sea
Huttellurra – collective of midwifery goddesses
Hutena – goddesses of fate, similar to the Moirai
Inara – goddess of the wild animals of the steppe (Hattic)
Irsirra – collective of midwifery goddesses
Ishara – goddess of oaths and love
Istanu – god of the sun and of judgement (from Hattic Eştan)
Istustaya and Papaya – goddesses of destiny
Jarri – god of plague and pestilence, "Lord of the Bow"
Kamrusepa – goddess of healing, medicine and magic
Kaskuh (Kaškuḫ; Kašku) – god of the moon. (Hurrian Kuşuh) The Luwian peoples called him Arma.
Khipa – tutelary deity
Kurunta – god of wild animals and hunting (= Rundas?)
Lelwani – goddess of the underworld (Hattic?)
Pirwa – deity of uncertain nature
Rundas – god of the hunt and good fortune
Sandas – lion god
Sarruma – god of the mountains, son of Teshub and Hebat (Hurrian)
Šauška – goddess of fertility, war and healing (Hurrian)
Sutekh – weather god, possibly another name for Teshub
Suwaliyat – brother of Teshub
Tawara – collective of nursery goddesses
Telipinu – god of farming (Hattic)
Teshub – god of the sky, weather and storms (Hurrian)
Tilla – bull god
Upelluri – god of dreaming (Hurrian)
2 January 2017 04:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Arinna was the major cult center of the Hittite sun goddess, (thought to be Arinniti) known as dUTU URUArinna "sun goddess of Arinna". Arinna was located near Hattusa, the Hittite capital.[1]The name was also used as a substitute name for Arinniti.
The sun goddess of Arinna is the most important one of three important solar deities of the Hittite pantheon, besides UTU nepisas - "the sun of the sky" and UTU taknas - "the sun of the earth".
She was considered to be the chief deity in some source, in place of her husband. Her consort was the weather god, Teshub; they and their children were all derived from the former Hattic pantheon.
The goddess was also perceived to be a paramount chthonic or earth goddess. She becomes largely syncretised with the Hurrian goddess Hebat.
In the late 14th century BC, King Mursili II was particularly devoted to the sun goddess of Arinna.
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// i thought understanding depends on this how much these understand realities (what is possible among) who read and internet the information what is found and presented on these days //
"" "The understanding of Hittite mythology depends on readings of surviving stone carvings, deciphering of the iconology represented in seal stones, interpreting ground plans of temples: additionally, there are a few images of deities, for the Hittites often worshipped their gods through Huwasi stones, which represented deities and were treated as sacred objects. Gods were often depicted standing on the backs of their respective beasts, or may have been identifiable in their animal form "
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once more:
" The city of Arinna, a day's march from Hattusa, was perhaps the major cult center of the Hittites, and certainly of their major sun goddess, known as dUTU URUArinna "sun goddess of Arinna".
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The sun goddess of Arinna is the most important one of three important solar deities of the Hittite pantheon, besides UTU nepisas - "the sun of the sky" and UTU taknas - "the sun of the earth".
She was considered to be the chief deity in some source, in place of her husband. Her consort was the weather god, Teshub; they and their children were all derived from the former Hattic pantheon.
The goddess was also perceived to be a paramount chthonic or earth goddess. She becomes largely syncretised with the Hurrian goddess Hebat.
In the late 14th century BC, King Mursili II was particularly devoted to the sun goddess of Arinna.
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// i thought understanding depends on this how much these understand realities (what is possible among) who read and internet the information what is found and presented on these days //
"" "The understanding of Hittite mythology depends on readings of surviving stone carvings, deciphering of the iconology represented in seal stones, interpreting ground plans of temples: additionally, there are a few images of deities, for the Hittites often worshipped their gods through Huwasi stones, which represented deities and were treated as sacred objects. Gods were often depicted standing on the backs of their respective beasts, or may have been identifiable in their animal form "
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once more:
" The city of Arinna, a day's march from Hattusa, was perhaps the major cult center of the Hittites, and certainly of their major sun goddess, known as dUTU URUArinna "sun goddess of Arinna".
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2 January 2017 04:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" A cuneiform tablet found in 1957 written in both the Hittite and the Akkadian language provides details of six years of his reign. In it, he claims to have extended the Hittite domain to the sea, and in the second year, to have subdued Alalakh and other cities in Syria. In the third year, he campaigned against Arzawa in western Anatolia, then returned to Syria to spend the next three years retaking his former conquests from the Hurrians, who had occupied them in his absence. "
// et siis nendest occupieritest juttu lkelle järgi veelgi hullemad vist tulid..
vb isegi need pätid keda appi kutsuti nende seismeste väljalöömiseks... või siis nende purustamiseks kes seda kohta kaitsesid enne kui koik avastama hakkasid selle naba asja..
"He is the earliest Hittite ruler for whom contemporary records have been found. In addition to "King of Ḫattuša", he took the title "Man of Kuššara", a reference to the prehistoric capital and home of the Hittites, before they had occupied Neša.
// et siis nendest occupieritest juttu lkelle järgi veelgi hullemad vist tulid..
vb isegi need pätid keda appi kutsuti nende seismeste väljalöömiseks... või siis nende purustamiseks kes seda kohta kaitsesid enne kui koik avastama hakkasid selle naba asja..
"He is the earliest Hittite ruler for whom contemporary records have been found. In addition to "King of Ḫattuša", he took the title "Man of Kuššara", a reference to the prehistoric capital and home of the Hittites, before they had occupied Neša.
2 January 2017 04:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and the end,
In the land of Ḫattuša... the land... and...
(Lacuna)
§45
... the commander...
§46'
...and the commanders...
§47'
...and the commanders... and the help...
§48'
...and the commanders... Mr. Ḫirḫirri ......
§49'
(broken)
Tablet 2, Col. I
§50'
All the cities of Iškuruḫa
The commanders and Mr. Kannunnu and Mr. Piddu-muwa.
§51'
All the cities of Tiwara. The commanders and Mr. Pikašdwili and Mr. Ḫirḫirri.
§52'
All his cities of Pišunupa: The commanders and Mr. Piḫataḫi and Mr. Peḫataḫila.
§53'
All the cities of Ziḫarzi. The commanders and Mr. Pikkanušša.
§54'
All the cities of Talmali. The commanders and Mr. Pazzizispišdumuwa and Mr. Artu-...
§55'
[All the cities of] Iškalu-...
[The commanders and] Mr. Pittu-...
§56'
[All the cities of] Taḫani-...
The commanders...
§57'
[All the cities of] Kapiru-...
[The commanders and] Mr. Putiš-...
§58'
[All the cities of] Zikur-...
the commanders...
(Large Lacuna)
Col. IV
§59
And to...
Colophon
Two tablets, when they speak a plea before the gods... of the Sun Goddess of Arinna. Complete.
In the land of Ḫattuša... the land... and...
(Lacuna)
§45
... the commander...
§46'
...and the commanders...
§47'
...and the commanders... and the help...
§48'
...and the commanders... Mr. Ḫirḫirri ......
§49'
(broken)
Tablet 2, Col. I
§50'
All the cities of Iškuruḫa
The commanders and Mr. Kannunnu and Mr. Piddu-muwa.
§51'
All the cities of Tiwara. The commanders and Mr. Pikašdwili and Mr. Ḫirḫirri.
§52'
All his cities of Pišunupa: The commanders and Mr. Piḫataḫi and Mr. Peḫataḫila.
§53'
All the cities of Ziḫarzi. The commanders and Mr. Pikkanušša.
§54'
All the cities of Talmali. The commanders and Mr. Pazzizispišdumuwa and Mr. Artu-...
§55'
[All the cities of] Iškalu-...
[The commanders and] Mr. Pittu-...
§56'
[All the cities of] Taḫani-...
The commanders...
§57'
[All the cities of] Kapiru-...
[The commanders and] Mr. Putiš-...
§58'
[All the cities of] Zikur-...
the commanders...
(Large Lacuna)
Col. IV
§59
And to...
Colophon
Two tablets, when they speak a plea before the gods... of the Sun Goddess of Arinna. Complete.
2 January 2017 04:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And the strong speacers keep up:
(remeber the time, contexts )
"Because we are respectful to the gods, we stand before the gods as before for the festivals. Because the men of Kaška have taken the land of Nerik for themselves, we are continually sending the rituals for the Storm God in Nerik and for the gods of Nerik from Ḫattuša in the city of Ḫakmišša, (namely) thick-breads, libations, oxen, and sheep.
§41'
We will call the men of Kaška. We will give presents to them. Further, we will make them swear oaths: What ritual stuff we send to the Stormgod of Nerik, "You support it! May
(remeber the time, contexts )
"Because we are respectful to the gods, we stand before the gods as before for the festivals. Because the men of Kaška have taken the land of Nerik for themselves, we are continually sending the rituals for the Storm God in Nerik and for the gods of Nerik from Ḫattuša in the city of Ḫakmišša, (namely) thick-breads, libations, oxen, and sheep.
§41'
We will call the men of Kaška. We will give presents to them. Further, we will make them swear oaths: What ritual stuff we send to the Stormgod of Nerik, "You support it! May
2 January 2017 04:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Time when like that was power to speak:
"We call all the innocent lands for your sake: Gaštama, Taggašta, Šerišša, Taštareša, Takkupša, Kammama, Zalpuwa, and Nerik.
§35'
Now we, Arnuwanda, Great King, and Ašmu-Nikal, Great Queen, stood before you .:. We continually entreat to you .:. ] "
"We call all the innocent lands for your sake: Gaštama, Taggašta, Šerišša, Taštareša, Takkupša, Kammama, Zalpuwa, and Nerik.
§35'
Now we, Arnuwanda, Great King, and Ašmu-Nikal, Great Queen, stood before you .:. We continually entreat to you .:. ] "
2 January 2017 04:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jutud jätkuvad külalistest, ammuses ajas kirja pandud ja tegevus samasugune siiani, ja pole me aru saanud v``?
"They divided them amongst themselves"
"From which they drove the sacrificial animals, (namely) fattened bulls, fattened cows, fattened sheep, and fattened goats:
§24'
From the land of Nerikka, the land of Ḫuršama, the land of Kaštama, the land of Šiyeriša, the land of Ḫimuwa, the land of Taggašta, the land of Kammama, the land of Zalpuwa, the land of Kapiruḫa, the land of Ḫurna, the land of Dankušna, the land of Tapašawa, the land of Tarukka, the land of Ilaluḫa, the Ziḫḫana, the land of Šipidduwa, the land of Wašḫaya, (and) the land of Patalliya.
§25'
They smashed the images of you gods in these lands.
Col. III
§26'
They plundered they silver, gold, rhytons, cups of silver and gold, (and) gems, and your implements of bronze, (and) your garments. They divided them amongst themselves.
§27'
They divided amongst themselves holy priests, priests, šiwanzanna-priestesses, GUDÚ-priests, musicians, singers, cooks, bakers, farmers, and gardeners. They made them into servants for themselves.
§28'
They divided up your cattle and sheep. They divided up for themselves your fields - those of the thick bread - and your vineyards -those of the libations. The men of Kaška took them for themselves.
§29'
No longer does anyone call out the names for you gods in those lands. No one gives the daily, monthly, and annual rituals. No one performs the festivals or cult rites for you.
§30'
Further, here, to the land of Ḫatti, no one brings the tribute and cult provisions for you. Holy priests, priests, šiwanzanna-priestesses, singers, and musicians no longer come from any (place).
§31'
No longer does anyone bring sun-disks and crescents of silver, gold, and bronze, gems, delicate(?) garments, adupli-garments, and kušiya-shirts for you gods, and for the Sun Goddess of Arinna. [No one gives] thick breads and libations to you gods. No one drives [sacrificial herds] of fattened bulls, fattened cows, fattened sheep, and fattened goats [to you gods(?)].
"They divided them amongst themselves"
"From which they drove the sacrificial animals, (namely) fattened bulls, fattened cows, fattened sheep, and fattened goats:
§24'
From the land of Nerikka, the land of Ḫuršama, the land of Kaštama, the land of Šiyeriša, the land of Ḫimuwa, the land of Taggašta, the land of Kammama, the land of Zalpuwa, the land of Kapiruḫa, the land of Ḫurna, the land of Dankušna, the land of Tapašawa, the land of Tarukka, the land of Ilaluḫa, the Ziḫḫana, the land of Šipidduwa, the land of Wašḫaya, (and) the land of Patalliya.
§25'
They smashed the images of you gods in these lands.
Col. III
§26'
They plundered they silver, gold, rhytons, cups of silver and gold, (and) gems, and your implements of bronze, (and) your garments. They divided them amongst themselves.
§27'
They divided amongst themselves holy priests, priests, šiwanzanna-priestesses, GUDÚ-priests, musicians, singers, cooks, bakers, farmers, and gardeners. They made them into servants for themselves.
§28'
They divided up your cattle and sheep. They divided up for themselves your fields - those of the thick bread - and your vineyards -those of the libations. The men of Kaška took them for themselves.
§29'
No longer does anyone call out the names for you gods in those lands. No one gives the daily, monthly, and annual rituals. No one performs the festivals or cult rites for you.
§30'
Further, here, to the land of Ḫatti, no one brings the tribute and cult provisions for you. Holy priests, priests, šiwanzanna-priestesses, singers, and musicians no longer come from any (place).
§31'
No longer does anyone bring sun-disks and crescents of silver, gold, and bronze, gems, delicate(?) garments, adupli-garments, and kušiya-shirts for you gods, and for the Sun Goddess of Arinna. [No one gives] thick breads and libations to you gods. No one drives [sacrificial herds] of fattened bulls, fattened cows, fattened sheep, and fattened goats [to you gods(?)].
2 January 2017 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Related in time's:
sounds like later Greek-ROmans, commies to me:
"Further: they used to mistreat the servants and cities of you gods by means of šaḫḫan- and luzzi-obligations. They also used to take the male and female servants of you gods for themselves. They used to make them into their own male servants. They used to make them into their own female servants. ...
Col. II "
// people kind of forget, have to be really different in culturally, to write this down on these times.. and to preserve it to here times. is miracle it self
____
and someone s told to some one old times:
"We will establish reverence for your temples...
Further, we will protect all of those towns of yours... "
exempt
"With the people, the cattle, the sheep, the grain...
Further, we will exempt them with respect to šaḫḫan- and luzzi-obligations. They will again be exempt for you gods."
(exempt: free from an obligation or liability imposed on others, free (a person or organization) from an obligation or liability imposed on others. )
"He of the god ... that matter to us... Say it by means of a seer or an omen interpreter, and we will comply. We will make it well."
"When the enemy attacked the land of Ḫatti, . . . . . they plundered the land. They took it for themselves. . . . it . . . We continually speak to you gods. We continually advance the (legal) case to you."
//jumaLate eest kaitsvad advogaadid
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" Zalpuwa, also Zalpa, was an as-yet undiscovered Bronze Age Anatolian city of ca. the 17th century BC. Its history is largely known from the Proclamation of Anitta, CTH 1.
Zalpuwa was by a "Sea of Zalpa". It was the setting for an ancient legend about the Queen of Kanesh, which was either composed in or translated into the Hurrian language:
[The Queen] of Kanesh once bore thirty sons in a single year. She said: "What a horde is this which I have born[e]!" She caulked(?) baskets with dung, put her sons in them, and launched them in the river. The river carried them down to the sea at the land of Zalpuwa. Then the gods took them up out of the sea and reared them. When some years had passed, the queen again gave birth, this time to thirty daughters. This time she herself reared them. [1]
The river at Kanesh (Sarımsaklı Çayı) drains into the Black Sea, not (for example) Lake Tuz. "Zalpuwa" is further mentioned alongside Nerik in Arnuwanda I's prayer. Nerik was a Hattic language speaking city which had fallen to the Kaskians by Arnuwanda's time. This portion of the prayer also mentioned Kammama, which was Kaskian as of the reign of Arnuwanda II. The best conclusion is that Zalpuwa was in a region of Hattian cities of northern central Anatolia: as were Nerik, Hattusa, and probably Sapinuwa. Zalpuwa was most likely, like its neighbours, founded by Hattians.
Ca. the 17th century BC, Uhna the king of Zalpuwa invaded Neša, after which the Zalpuwans carried off the city's "Sius" idol. Under Huzziya's reign, the king of Neša, Anitta, invaded Zalpuwa. Anitta took Huzziya captive, and recovered the Sius idol for Neša. Soon after that, Zalpuwa seems to have become culturally Hittite and Nesian-speaking.
Arnuwanda's prayer implies that Zalpuwa was laid waste by Kaskians, at the same time that Nerik fell to them, in the early 14th century BC.
İkiztepe on the Kızılırmak Delta near the Black Sea coast is suggested as a possible location for Zalpuwa.
http://web.archive.org/web/20120204170004/http://www.hittites.info/translations.aspx?text=translations/hymnsPrayers%2fArnuwanda-Asmunikal+Prayer.html
sounds like later Greek-ROmans, commies to me:
"Further: they used to mistreat the servants and cities of you gods by means of šaḫḫan- and luzzi-obligations. They also used to take the male and female servants of you gods for themselves. They used to make them into their own male servants. They used to make them into their own female servants. ...
Col. II "
// people kind of forget, have to be really different in culturally, to write this down on these times.. and to preserve it to here times. is miracle it self
____
and someone s told to some one old times:
"We will establish reverence for your temples...
Further, we will protect all of those towns of yours... "
exempt
"With the people, the cattle, the sheep, the grain...
Further, we will exempt them with respect to šaḫḫan- and luzzi-obligations. They will again be exempt for you gods."
(exempt: free from an obligation or liability imposed on others, free (a person or organization) from an obligation or liability imposed on others. )
"He of the god ... that matter to us... Say it by means of a seer or an omen interpreter, and we will comply. We will make it well."
"When the enemy attacked the land of Ḫatti, . . . . . they plundered the land. They took it for themselves. . . . it . . . We continually speak to you gods. We continually advance the (legal) case to you."
//jumaLate eest kaitsvad advogaadid
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" Zalpuwa, also Zalpa, was an as-yet undiscovered Bronze Age Anatolian city of ca. the 17th century BC. Its history is largely known from the Proclamation of Anitta, CTH 1.
Zalpuwa was by a "Sea of Zalpa". It was the setting for an ancient legend about the Queen of Kanesh, which was either composed in or translated into the Hurrian language:
[The Queen] of Kanesh once bore thirty sons in a single year. She said: "What a horde is this which I have born[e]!" She caulked(?) baskets with dung, put her sons in them, and launched them in the river. The river carried them down to the sea at the land of Zalpuwa. Then the gods took them up out of the sea and reared them. When some years had passed, the queen again gave birth, this time to thirty daughters. This time she herself reared them. [1]
The river at Kanesh (Sarımsaklı Çayı) drains into the Black Sea, not (for example) Lake Tuz. "Zalpuwa" is further mentioned alongside Nerik in Arnuwanda I's prayer. Nerik was a Hattic language speaking city which had fallen to the Kaskians by Arnuwanda's time. This portion of the prayer also mentioned Kammama, which was Kaskian as of the reign of Arnuwanda II. The best conclusion is that Zalpuwa was in a region of Hattian cities of northern central Anatolia: as were Nerik, Hattusa, and probably Sapinuwa. Zalpuwa was most likely, like its neighbours, founded by Hattians.
Ca. the 17th century BC, Uhna the king of Zalpuwa invaded Neša, after which the Zalpuwans carried off the city's "Sius" idol. Under Huzziya's reign, the king of Neša, Anitta, invaded Zalpuwa. Anitta took Huzziya captive, and recovered the Sius idol for Neša. Soon after that, Zalpuwa seems to have become culturally Hittite and Nesian-speaking.
Arnuwanda's prayer implies that Zalpuwa was laid waste by Kaskians, at the same time that Nerik fell to them, in the early 14th century BC.
İkiztepe on the Kızılırmak Delta near the Black Sea coast is suggested as a possible location for Zalpuwa.
http://web.archive.org/web/20120204170004/http://www.hittites.info/translations.aspx?text=translations/hymnsPrayers%2fArnuwanda-Asmunikal+Prayer.html
2 January 2017 03:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
loodame, et mitte, kuressaare ja saaremaaga mitte seotud,
nuagu me veSki sõna tegime sonast VesiKivi
nuagu me veSki sõna tegime sonast VesiKivi
2 January 2017 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aa ikkagi Occupiers:
"Hattusili I (Ḫattušili I) was a king of the Hittite Old Kingdom. He reigned ca. 1586–1556 BC (short chronology).
He used the title of Labarna at the beginning of his reign. It is uncertain whether he is the second king so identified, making him Labarna II, or whether he is identical to Labarna I, who is treated as his predecessor in Hittite chronologies.
During his reign, he moved the capital from Neša (Kaneš, near modern Kültepe) to Ḫattuša (near modern Boghazkoy), taking the throne name of Ḫattušili to mark the occasion.
He is the earliest Hittite ruler for whom contemporary records have been found. In addition to "King of Ḫattuša", he took the title "Man of Kuššara", a reference to the prehistoric capital and home of the Hittites, before they had occupied Neša.
A cuneiform tablet found in 1957 written in both the Hittite and the Akkadian language provides details of six years of his reign. In it, he claims to have extended the Hittite domain to the sea, and in the second year, to have subdued Alalakh and other cities in Syria. In the third year, he campaigned against Arzawa in western Anatolia, then returned to Syria to spend the next three years retaking his former conquests from the Hurrians, who had occupied them in his absence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kussara
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%B8%AAattu%C5%A1ili_I
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ne%C5%A1a
"Hattusili I (Ḫattušili I) was a king of the Hittite Old Kingdom. He reigned ca. 1586–1556 BC (short chronology).
He used the title of Labarna at the beginning of his reign. It is uncertain whether he is the second king so identified, making him Labarna II, or whether he is identical to Labarna I, who is treated as his predecessor in Hittite chronologies.
During his reign, he moved the capital from Neša (Kaneš, near modern Kültepe) to Ḫattuša (near modern Boghazkoy), taking the throne name of Ḫattušili to mark the occasion.
He is the earliest Hittite ruler for whom contemporary records have been found. In addition to "King of Ḫattuša", he took the title "Man of Kuššara", a reference to the prehistoric capital and home of the Hittites, before they had occupied Neša.
A cuneiform tablet found in 1957 written in both the Hittite and the Akkadian language provides details of six years of his reign. In it, he claims to have extended the Hittite domain to the sea, and in the second year, to have subdued Alalakh and other cities in Syria. In the third year, he campaigned against Arzawa in western Anatolia, then returned to Syria to spend the next three years retaking his former conquests from the Hurrians, who had occupied them in his absence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kussara
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%B8%AAattu%C5%A1ili_I
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ne%C5%A1a
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kussara
2 January 2017 03:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" .. he said that toys such as the Barbie doll are "destructive culturally and a social danger."
Dorri-Najafabadi was the minister of intelligence in the cabinet of then president Mohammad Khatami.[5] During his term of ministership, some journalists and reformist politicians were murdered by security agents, for which the Iranian government later charged his deputy, Saeed Emami, with orchestrating, claiming he had organized them independently. Dorri-Najafabadi resigned and was succeeded by Ali Younessi. The events were later named the "Chained Murders" by the reformist cabinet of President Mohammad Khatami.
After Mohammad Ismaeil Shooshtari, in 2005, he was the attorney-general of the Islamic Republic of Iran.[6][7] He was succeeded by Jamal Karimi-Rad in the post. :"
// honest intelligence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghorbanali_Dorri-Najafabadi
Dorri-Najafabadi was the minister of intelligence in the cabinet of then president Mohammad Khatami.[5] During his term of ministership, some journalists and reformist politicians were murdered by security agents, for which the Iranian government later charged his deputy, Saeed Emami, with orchestrating, claiming he had organized them independently. Dorri-Najafabadi resigned and was succeeded by Ali Younessi. The events were later named the "Chained Murders" by the reformist cabinet of President Mohammad Khatami.
After Mohammad Ismaeil Shooshtari, in 2005, he was the attorney-general of the Islamic Republic of Iran.[6][7] He was succeeded by Jamal Karimi-Rad in the post. :"
// honest intelligence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghorbanali_Dorri-Najafabadi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghorbanali_Dorri-Najafabadi
2 January 2017 03:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja loomulikult (miks ka Iraan neil abis on, ja oleks ka meil, kui meie oma usku kaitsma peaksime) :
"Iran has been described as a "theocratic republic" (by the US Central Intelligence Agency),[13] and its constitution a "hybrid" of "theocratic and democratic elements" by Francis Fukuyama.[14] Like other Islamic states, it maintains religious laws and has religious courts to interpret all aspects of law. According to Iran's constitution, "all civil, penal, financial, economic, administrative, cultural, military, political, and other laws and regulations must be based on Islamic criteria."[15]
In addition, Iran has a religious ruler and many religious officials in powerful government posts. The head of state, or "Supreme Leader", is a faqih[16] (scholar of Islamic law), and possesses more power than Iran's president. The Leader appoints the heads of many powerful posts: the commanders of the armed forces, the director of the national radio and television network, the heads of the powerful major religious foundations, the chief justice, the attorney general (indirectly through the chief justice), special tribunals, and members of national security councils dealing with defence and foreign affairs. He also co-appoints the 12 jurists of the Guardian Council.[17]
The Leader is elected by the Assembly of Experts[13][18] which is made up of mujtahids,[19] who are Islamic scholars competent in interpreting Sharia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_of_Experts
"Iran has been described as a "theocratic republic" (by the US Central Intelligence Agency),[13] and its constitution a "hybrid" of "theocratic and democratic elements" by Francis Fukuyama.[14] Like other Islamic states, it maintains religious laws and has religious courts to interpret all aspects of law. According to Iran's constitution, "all civil, penal, financial, economic, administrative, cultural, military, political, and other laws and regulations must be based on Islamic criteria."[15]
In addition, Iran has a religious ruler and many religious officials in powerful government posts. The head of state, or "Supreme Leader", is a faqih[16] (scholar of Islamic law), and possesses more power than Iran's president. The Leader appoints the heads of many powerful posts: the commanders of the armed forces, the director of the national radio and television network, the heads of the powerful major religious foundations, the chief justice, the attorney general (indirectly through the chief justice), special tribunals, and members of national security councils dealing with defence and foreign affairs. He also co-appoints the 12 jurists of the Guardian Council.[17]
The Leader is elected by the Assembly of Experts[13][18] which is made up of mujtahids,[19] who are Islamic scholars competent in interpreting Sharia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_of_Experts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_of_Experts
2 January 2017 03:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and more,
meta and basic:
"The oldest name for central Anatolia, "Land of the Hatti", was found on Mesopotamian cuneiform tablets from the period of Sargon the Great of Akkad c. 2350–2150 BC: on those tablets Assyrian-Akkadian traders implored King Sargon for help. This appellation continued to exist for about 1,500 years until 630 BC, as stated in Assyrian chronicles. According to later Hittite documents, Sargon the Great had fought with the Luwian king Nurdaggal of Burushanda, while Sargon's successor Naram-Sin of Akkad had battled Pamba, king of Hatti and 16 other confederates.
The use of the word "Proto-Hittite" to refer to Hattians is inaccurate. Hittite (natively known as Nešili, "[in the language] of Neša") is an Indo-European language, linguistically distinct from the Hattians. The Hittites continued to use the term Land of Hatti for their new kingdom. The Hattians eventually merged with people who spoke Indo-European languages like Hittite, Luwian, and Palaic.
Approximate extent of Hittite rule, c. 1350–1300 BC, with Arzawa rule and Lukkans to the west, and Mitanni rule to the southeast.
The Hattians were organised in city-states and small kingdoms or principalities. These cities were well organized and ruled as theocratic principalities. (Theocracy is a form of government in which a deity is the source from which all authority derives.)
--
And little bit booring:
"The papacy in the Papal States occupied a middle ground between theocracy and ecclesiocracy, since the pope did not claim he was a prophet who received revelation from God and translated it into civil law.
Religiously endorsed monarchies fall between theocracy and ecclesiocracy, according to the relative strengths of the religious and political organs.
Most forms of theocracy are oligarchic in nature, involving rule of the many by the few, some of whom so anointed under claim of divine commission.
meta and basic:
"The oldest name for central Anatolia, "Land of the Hatti", was found on Mesopotamian cuneiform tablets from the period of Sargon the Great of Akkad c. 2350–2150 BC: on those tablets Assyrian-Akkadian traders implored King Sargon for help. This appellation continued to exist for about 1,500 years until 630 BC, as stated in Assyrian chronicles. According to later Hittite documents, Sargon the Great had fought with the Luwian king Nurdaggal of Burushanda, while Sargon's successor Naram-Sin of Akkad had battled Pamba, king of Hatti and 16 other confederates.
The use of the word "Proto-Hittite" to refer to Hattians is inaccurate. Hittite (natively known as Nešili, "[in the language] of Neša") is an Indo-European language, linguistically distinct from the Hattians. The Hittites continued to use the term Land of Hatti for their new kingdom. The Hattians eventually merged with people who spoke Indo-European languages like Hittite, Luwian, and Palaic.
Approximate extent of Hittite rule, c. 1350–1300 BC, with Arzawa rule and Lukkans to the west, and Mitanni rule to the southeast.
The Hattians were organised in city-states and small kingdoms or principalities. These cities were well organized and ruled as theocratic principalities. (Theocracy is a form of government in which a deity is the source from which all authority derives.)
--
And little bit booring:
"The papacy in the Papal States occupied a middle ground between theocracy and ecclesiocracy, since the pope did not claim he was a prophet who received revelation from God and translated it into civil law.
Religiously endorsed monarchies fall between theocracy and ecclesiocracy, according to the relative strengths of the religious and political organs.
Most forms of theocracy are oligarchic in nature, involving rule of the many by the few, some of whom so anointed under claim of divine commission.
2 January 2017 03:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sounds like estonians
"The Hattians (/ˈhætiənz/) were an ancient people who inhabited the land of Hatti in central Anatolia. The group was documented at least as early as the empire of Sargon of Akkad (c. 2300 BC),[1] until it was gradually absorbed c. 2000–1700 BC by the Indo-European Hittites, who became identified with the "land of Hatti".
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"The Hurrians (/ˈhʊəriənz/; cuneiform: 𒄷𒌨𒊑; transliteration: Ḫu-ur-ri), also called Hari, Khurrites, Hourri, Churri, Hurri or Hurriter, were a people of the Bronze Age Near East. They spoke a Hurro-Urartian language called Hurrian, and lived in Anatolia and Northern Mesopotamia. The largest and most influential Hurrian nation was the multi-ethnic kingdom of Mitanni, the Mitanni perhaps being Indo-European speakers who formed a ruling class over the Hurrians. The population of the Indo-European-speaking Hittite Empire in Anatolia included a large population of Hurrians, and there is significant Hurrian influence in Hittite mythology. By the Early Iron Age, the Hurrians had been assimilated with other peoples. Their remnants were subdued by a related people that formed the state of Urartu. According to a hypothesis by I.M. Diakonoff and S. Starostin, the Hurrian and Urartian languages shared a common ancestor and were related to the Northeast Caucasian languages. The present-day Armenians are an amalgam of the Indo-European groups with the Hurrians and Urartians.
"The Hattians (/ˈhætiənz/) were an ancient people who inhabited the land of Hatti in central Anatolia. The group was documented at least as early as the empire of Sargon of Akkad (c. 2300 BC),[1] until it was gradually absorbed c. 2000–1700 BC by the Indo-European Hittites, who became identified with the "land of Hatti".
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"The Hurrians (/ˈhʊəriənz/; cuneiform: 𒄷𒌨𒊑; transliteration: Ḫu-ur-ri), also called Hari, Khurrites, Hourri, Churri, Hurri or Hurriter, were a people of the Bronze Age Near East. They spoke a Hurro-Urartian language called Hurrian, and lived in Anatolia and Northern Mesopotamia. The largest and most influential Hurrian nation was the multi-ethnic kingdom of Mitanni, the Mitanni perhaps being Indo-European speakers who formed a ruling class over the Hurrians. The population of the Indo-European-speaking Hittite Empire in Anatolia included a large population of Hurrians, and there is significant Hurrian influence in Hittite mythology. By the Early Iron Age, the Hurrians had been assimilated with other peoples. Their remnants were subdued by a related people that formed the state of Urartu. According to a hypothesis by I.M. Diakonoff and S. Starostin, the Hurrian and Urartian languages shared a common ancestor and were related to the Northeast Caucasian languages. The present-day Armenians are an amalgam of the Indo-European groups with the Hurrians and Urartians.
2 January 2017 03:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
with some importent parts a less important extra to take in to account, latter info related to it also, about Asian Heart, by what Asia got name:
"The oldest known reference to Anatolia – as “Land of the Hatti” – was found on Mesopotamian cuneiform tablets from the period of the Akkadian Empire (2350–2150 BC).[citation needed] The first name the Greeks used for the Anatolian peninsula was Ἀσία (Asía),[12] presumably after the name of the Assuwa league in western Anatolia.[citation needed] As the name of Asia came to be extended to other areas east of the Mediterranean, the name for Anatolia was specified as Μικρὰ Ἀσία (Mikrá Asía) or Asia Minor, meaning “Lesser Asia”, in Late Antiquity.
The name Anatolia derives from the Greek ἀνατολή (anatolḗ) meaning “the East” or more literally “sunrise”, comparable to the Latin derived terms “levant” and “orient”.[13][14] The precise reference of this term has varied over time, perhaps originally referring to the Aeolian, Ionian and Dorian colonies on the west coast of Asia Minor. In the Byzantine Empire, the Anatolic Theme (Aνατολικόν θέμα) was a theme covering the western and central parts of Turkey’s present-day Central Anatolia Region.[15][16] The modern Turkish form of Anatolia is Anadolu, which again derives from the Greek name Aνατολή (Anatolḗ). The Russian male name Anatoly and the French Anatole share the same linguistic origin.
In English the name of Turkey for ancient Anatolia first appeared c. 1369. It is derived from the Medieval Latin Turchia (meaning “Land of the Turks”, Turkish Türkiye), which was originally used by the Europeans to define the Seljuk controlled parts of Anatolia after the Battle of Manzikert
"The oldest known reference to Anatolia – as “Land of the Hatti” – was found on Mesopotamian cuneiform tablets from the period of the Akkadian Empire (2350–2150 BC).[citation needed] The first name the Greeks used for the Anatolian peninsula was Ἀσία (Asía),[12] presumably after the name of the Assuwa league in western Anatolia.[citation needed] As the name of Asia came to be extended to other areas east of the Mediterranean, the name for Anatolia was specified as Μικρὰ Ἀσία (Mikrá Asía) or Asia Minor, meaning “Lesser Asia”, in Late Antiquity.
The name Anatolia derives from the Greek ἀνατολή (anatolḗ) meaning “the East” or more literally “sunrise”, comparable to the Latin derived terms “levant” and “orient”.[13][14] The precise reference of this term has varied over time, perhaps originally referring to the Aeolian, Ionian and Dorian colonies on the west coast of Asia Minor. In the Byzantine Empire, the Anatolic Theme (Aνατολικόν θέμα) was a theme covering the western and central parts of Turkey’s present-day Central Anatolia Region.[15][16] The modern Turkish form of Anatolia is Anadolu, which again derives from the Greek name Aνατολή (Anatolḗ). The Russian male name Anatoly and the French Anatole share the same linguistic origin.
In English the name of Turkey for ancient Anatolia first appeared c. 1369. It is derived from the Medieval Latin Turchia (meaning “Land of the Turks”, Turkish Türkiye), which was originally used by the Europeans to define the Seljuk controlled parts of Anatolia after the Battle of Manzikert
2 January 2017 03:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So now, we only have to look , in to with who they was on war back then, who them was a good ones and what they're siblings have done worst or better up to now
//also who is more and who is less of Roman Epire's or Jew's //
"The earliest historical records of Anatolia stem from the southeast of the region and are from the Mesopotamian-based Akkadian Empire during the reign of Sargon of Akkad in the 24th century BC. Scholars generally believe the earliest indigenous populations of Anatolia were the Hattians and Hurrians. The Hattians spoke a language of unclear affiliation, and the Hurrian language belongs to a small family called Hurro-Urartian, all these languages now being extinct; relationships with indigenous languages of the Caucasus have been proposed[19] but are not generally accepted. The region was famous for exporting raw materials, and areas of Hattian- and Hurrian-populated southeast Anatolia were colonised by the Akkadians.[20]
Assyrian Empire (21st–18th centuries BC)
After the fall of the Akkadian Empire in the mid-21st century BC, the Assyrians, who were the northern branch of the Akkadian people, colonised parts of the region between the 21st and mid-18th centuries BC and claimed its resources, notably silver. One of the numerous cuneiform records dated circa 20th century BC, found in Anatolia at the Assyrian colony of Kanesh, uses an advanced system of trading computations and credit lines.[20]
Hittite Kingdoms (17th–12th centuries BC)
The Lion Gate at Hattusa, capital of the Hittite Empire. The city's history dates to before 2000 BC.
Unlike the Akkadians and their descendants, the Assyrians, whose Anatolian possessions were peripheral to their core lands in Mesopotamia, the Hittites were centred at Hattusa in north-central Anatolia by 2000 BC. They were speakers of an Indo-European language, the Hittite language, known as the language of Ness. Originating from Nesa, they conquered Hattusa in the 18th century BC, imposing themselves over Hattian- and Hurrian-speaking populations. According to the most widely accepted Kurgan theory on the Proto-Indo-European homeland, however, the Hittites (along with the other Indo-European ancient Anatolians) were themselves relatively recent immigrants to Anatolia from the north.
The Hittites adopted the cuneiform script, invented in Mesopotamia. During the Late Bronze Age circa 2000 BC, they created an empire, the Hittite New Kingdom, which reached its height in the 14th century BC, controlling much of Asia Minor. The empire included a large part of Anatolia, northwestern Syria and northwest upper Mesopotamia. They failed to reach the Anatolian coasts of the Black Sea, however, as another non-Indo-European people, the Kaskians, had established a kingdom there in the 17th century BC, displacing earlier Palaic-speaking Indo-Europeans.[21] Much of the history of the Hittite Empire concerned war with the rival empires of Egypt, Assyria and the Mitanni
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Some meta info extra.
//also who is more and who is less of Roman Epire's or Jew's //
"The earliest historical records of Anatolia stem from the southeast of the region and are from the Mesopotamian-based Akkadian Empire during the reign of Sargon of Akkad in the 24th century BC. Scholars generally believe the earliest indigenous populations of Anatolia were the Hattians and Hurrians. The Hattians spoke a language of unclear affiliation, and the Hurrian language belongs to a small family called Hurro-Urartian, all these languages now being extinct; relationships with indigenous languages of the Caucasus have been proposed[19] but are not generally accepted. The region was famous for exporting raw materials, and areas of Hattian- and Hurrian-populated southeast Anatolia were colonised by the Akkadians.[20]
Assyrian Empire (21st–18th centuries BC)
After the fall of the Akkadian Empire in the mid-21st century BC, the Assyrians, who were the northern branch of the Akkadian people, colonised parts of the region between the 21st and mid-18th centuries BC and claimed its resources, notably silver. One of the numerous cuneiform records dated circa 20th century BC, found in Anatolia at the Assyrian colony of Kanesh, uses an advanced system of trading computations and credit lines.[20]
Hittite Kingdoms (17th–12th centuries BC)
The Lion Gate at Hattusa, capital of the Hittite Empire. The city's history dates to before 2000 BC.
Unlike the Akkadians and their descendants, the Assyrians, whose Anatolian possessions were peripheral to their core lands in Mesopotamia, the Hittites were centred at Hattusa in north-central Anatolia by 2000 BC. They were speakers of an Indo-European language, the Hittite language, known as the language of Ness. Originating from Nesa, they conquered Hattusa in the 18th century BC, imposing themselves over Hattian- and Hurrian-speaking populations. According to the most widely accepted Kurgan theory on the Proto-Indo-European homeland, however, the Hittites (along with the other Indo-European ancient Anatolians) were themselves relatively recent immigrants to Anatolia from the north.
The Hittites adopted the cuneiform script, invented in Mesopotamia. During the Late Bronze Age circa 2000 BC, they created an empire, the Hittite New Kingdom, which reached its height in the 14th century BC, controlling much of Asia Minor. The empire included a large part of Anatolia, northwestern Syria and northwest upper Mesopotamia. They failed to reach the Anatolian coasts of the Black Sea, however, as another non-Indo-European people, the Kaskians, had established a kingdom there in the 17th century BC, displacing earlier Palaic-speaking Indo-Europeans.[21] Much of the history of the Hittite Empire concerned war with the rival empires of Egypt, Assyria and the Mitanni
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Some meta info extra.
2 January 2017 03:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Anatolia:
"Asian Turkey, Anatolian peninsula, or Anatolian plateau, is the westernmost protrusion of Asia, which makes up the majority of modern-day Turkey.
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" Human habitation in Anatolia dates back to the Paleolithic. Neolithic Anatolia has been proposed as the homeland of the Indo-European language family, although linguists tend to favour a later origin in the steppes north of the Black Sea. However, it is clear that the Indo-European Anatolian languages have been spoken in Anatolia since at least the 19th century BC.
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from:
(. "Early Upper Paleolithic shell beads at Üçağızlı Cave I (Turkey): Technology and the socioeconomic context of ornament life-histories". Journal of Human Evolution. 64 (5): 380–398. [ doi:10.1016/j.jhevol.2013.01.008. ]
ISSN 0047-2484)
"Asian Turkey, Anatolian peninsula, or Anatolian plateau, is the westernmost protrusion of Asia, which makes up the majority of modern-day Turkey.
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" Human habitation in Anatolia dates back to the Paleolithic. Neolithic Anatolia has been proposed as the homeland of the Indo-European language family, although linguists tend to favour a later origin in the steppes north of the Black Sea. However, it is clear that the Indo-European Anatolian languages have been spoken in Anatolia since at least the 19th century BC.
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from:
(. "Early Upper Paleolithic shell beads at Üçağızlı Cave I (Turkey): Technology and the socioeconomic context of ornament life-histories". Journal of Human Evolution. 64 (5): 380–398. [ doi:10.1016/j.jhevol.2013.01.008. ]
ISSN 0047-2484)
2 January 2017 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and Celtics mostly was in another places..
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/IE-migrations.gif
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/IE-migrations.gif
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/IE-migrations.gif
2 January 2017 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 January 2017 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ohoo, Armeenlased,
Koõva sõna, kuid neist praeguei räägi
" The Anatolian languages were a branch of the larger family of Indo-European languages. According to the most widely accepted Kurgan theory on the Proto-Indo-European homeland, however, these Indo-European Anatolians were themselves immigrants to Anatolia from the north ... !
"The archaeological discovery and eventual deciphering of the Hittites' written (cuneiform) archives, establishing the fact that the Hittite language belonged to a separate Anatolian branch of the Indo-European language family, caused a sensation among historians and forced a re-evaluation of Near Eastern history and Indo-European linguistics.[5] In accordance with the Kurgan hypothesis, J. P. Mallory notes in Encyclopedia of Indo-European Culture that it is likely that the Anatolians reached the Near East from the north, via the Balkans or the Caucasus, in the 3rd millennium BC.[5] Together with the proto-Tocharians, who migrated eastward, the Anatolians constituted the first known waves of Indo-European emigrants out of the Eurasian steppe.[6] Although they had wagons, they probably emigrated before Indo-Europeans had learned to use chariots for war.[6] It is likely that their arrival was one of gradual settlement and not as an invading army.[1] The Anatolians' earliest linguistic and historical attestation are as names mentioned in Assyrian mercantile texts from 19th Century BC Kanesh.[1]
The Hittites, who established an extensive empire in the Middle East in the 2nd millennium BC, are by far the best known members of the Anatolian group. Following the Bronze Age collapse, the lands of the Anatolian peoples were invaded with great frequency by a number of peoples and empires: the Phrygians, Bithynians, the Medes, the Persians, the Greeks, the Galatian Celts, and the Romans. Many of the invaders settled in Anatolia, sometimes causing the extinction of the Anatolian languages. By the Middle Ages, all Anatolian languages (and the cultures accompanying them) were extinct, but there may be lingering influences on the modern inhabitants of Anatolia, most notably Armenians.
Koõva sõna, kuid neist praeguei räägi
" The Anatolian languages were a branch of the larger family of Indo-European languages. According to the most widely accepted Kurgan theory on the Proto-Indo-European homeland, however, these Indo-European Anatolians were themselves immigrants to Anatolia from the north ... !
"The archaeological discovery and eventual deciphering of the Hittites' written (cuneiform) archives, establishing the fact that the Hittite language belonged to a separate Anatolian branch of the Indo-European language family, caused a sensation among historians and forced a re-evaluation of Near Eastern history and Indo-European linguistics.[5] In accordance with the Kurgan hypothesis, J. P. Mallory notes in Encyclopedia of Indo-European Culture that it is likely that the Anatolians reached the Near East from the north, via the Balkans or the Caucasus, in the 3rd millennium BC.[5] Together with the proto-Tocharians, who migrated eastward, the Anatolians constituted the first known waves of Indo-European emigrants out of the Eurasian steppe.[6] Although they had wagons, they probably emigrated before Indo-Europeans had learned to use chariots for war.[6] It is likely that their arrival was one of gradual settlement and not as an invading army.[1] The Anatolians' earliest linguistic and historical attestation are as names mentioned in Assyrian mercantile texts from 19th Century BC Kanesh.[1]
The Hittites, who established an extensive empire in the Middle East in the 2nd millennium BC, are by far the best known members of the Anatolian group. Following the Bronze Age collapse, the lands of the Anatolian peoples were invaded with great frequency by a number of peoples and empires: the Phrygians, Bithynians, the Medes, the Persians, the Greeks, the Galatian Celts, and the Romans. Many of the invaders settled in Anatolia, sometimes causing the extinction of the Anatolian languages. By the Middle Ages, all Anatolian languages (and the cultures accompanying them) were extinct, but there may be lingering influences on the modern inhabitants of Anatolia, most notably Armenians.
2 January 2017 02:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
North again or..
"The Anatolians were a group of distinct Indo-European peoples who spoke the Anatolian languages and shared a common culture. The Anatolian languages were a branch of the larger family of Indo-European languages. According to the most widely accepted Kurgan theory on the Proto-Indo-European homeland, however, these Indo-European Anatolians were themselves immigrants to Anatolia from the north.
// are we stil talking about the ones who with two eagles but their symbol they show everywhere except on hes own places, or something like that, to look up, north if it comes to roots of russia eagle, and Norway direction.
//but direction must not mean a peale here, but also first victim or victims of victim bodies
"The Anatolians were a group of distinct Indo-European peoples who spoke the Anatolian languages and shared a common culture. The Anatolian languages were a branch of the larger family of Indo-European languages. According to the most widely accepted Kurgan theory on the Proto-Indo-European homeland, however, these Indo-European Anatolians were themselves immigrants to Anatolia from the north.
// are we stil talking about the ones who with two eagles but their symbol they show everywhere except on hes own places, or something like that, to look up, north if it comes to roots of russia eagle, and Norway direction.
//but direction must not mean a peale here, but also first victim or victims of victim bodies
2 January 2017 02:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Wou, mani things to look up in here:
"The Hittites (/ˈhɪtaɪts/) were an Ancient Anatolian people who established an empire centered on Hattusa in north-central Anatolia around 1600 BC. This empire reached its height during the mid-14th century BC under Suppiluliuma I, when it encompassed an area that included most of Anatolia as well as parts of the northern Levant and Upper Mesopotamia. Between the 15th and 13th centuries BC the Hittite Empire came into conflict with the Egyptian Empire, Middle Assyrian Empire and the empire of the Mitanni for control of the Near East. The Assyrians eventually emerged as the dominant power and annexed much of the Hittite empire, while the remainder was sacked by Phrygian newcomers to the region. After c. 1180 BC, during the Bronze Age collapse, the Hittites splintered into several independent "Neo-Hittite" city-states, some of which survived until the 8th century BC before succumbing to the Neo-Assyrian Empire."
Kussara (Kushshar) was a kingdom of the Bronze Age in Anatolia.
3300–1200 BC
The kingdom, though apparently important at one time, is mostly remembered as the origin of the dynasty that would form the Old Hittite Kingdom. The Kussaran king Pithana, with his son Anitta, forerunners of the later Hittite kings, conquered Kanesh (Nesa)[1] and its important trade centrum in roughly 1780 BC. The seat of the Kussaran dynasty was then moved to Kanesh, though Kussara appears to have retained ceremonial importance.[2] Anitta took the title of 'Great King' when he defeated the polities of Zalpuwa and Hattum
// why fight, was them attackers, wrongdoers, comapred to, jes? As Liberals on these times? //
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Pithana and Anitta are the only two recorded kings of Kussara, and their exploits are known chiefly from the so-called 'Anitta Text,' one of the earliest inscriptions in the Hittite language yet discovered. A further king, Labarna I is accepted as a king of Kussara by most scholars.[4] Hattusili I, recognized as one of the first Hittite kings, referred to himself as 'man of Kussara,' but moved his capital from there to Hattusa (from which he likely took his name).[5] It is clear, however, that even after the capital was moved, Kussara retained some importance, as it was there that Hattusili would call a council on his own succession.[6]
Kussara is occasionally mentioned in the clay tablets of the old Assyrian trade period of Anatolia (as Ku-ša-ra) and less often in the early Hittite Kingdom (as KUR URU Ku-uš-ša-ra)
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" Barjamovic, Gojko (2011). A Historical Geography of Anatolia in the Old Assyrian Colony Period. Museum Tusculanum Press. p. 143—144. ISBN 8763536455. "Since the Hittite texts have so little to offer on the localization of Kussara, and the city disappears out of political history at a very early date, the documents from the Old Assyrian traders constitute the only real source for the location of the city."
// You can see we get more near for solving the problem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Anatolians
"The Hittites (/ˈhɪtaɪts/) were an Ancient Anatolian people who established an empire centered on Hattusa in north-central Anatolia around 1600 BC. This empire reached its height during the mid-14th century BC under Suppiluliuma I, when it encompassed an area that included most of Anatolia as well as parts of the northern Levant and Upper Mesopotamia. Between the 15th and 13th centuries BC the Hittite Empire came into conflict with the Egyptian Empire, Middle Assyrian Empire and the empire of the Mitanni for control of the Near East. The Assyrians eventually emerged as the dominant power and annexed much of the Hittite empire, while the remainder was sacked by Phrygian newcomers to the region. After c. 1180 BC, during the Bronze Age collapse, the Hittites splintered into several independent "Neo-Hittite" city-states, some of which survived until the 8th century BC before succumbing to the Neo-Assyrian Empire."
Kussara (Kushshar) was a kingdom of the Bronze Age in Anatolia.
3300–1200 BC
The kingdom, though apparently important at one time, is mostly remembered as the origin of the dynasty that would form the Old Hittite Kingdom. The Kussaran king Pithana, with his son Anitta, forerunners of the later Hittite kings, conquered Kanesh (Nesa)[1] and its important trade centrum in roughly 1780 BC. The seat of the Kussaran dynasty was then moved to Kanesh, though Kussara appears to have retained ceremonial importance.[2] Anitta took the title of 'Great King' when he defeated the polities of Zalpuwa and Hattum
// why fight, was them attackers, wrongdoers, comapred to, jes? As Liberals on these times? //
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Pithana and Anitta are the only two recorded kings of Kussara, and their exploits are known chiefly from the so-called 'Anitta Text,' one of the earliest inscriptions in the Hittite language yet discovered. A further king, Labarna I is accepted as a king of Kussara by most scholars.[4] Hattusili I, recognized as one of the first Hittite kings, referred to himself as 'man of Kussara,' but moved his capital from there to Hattusa (from which he likely took his name).[5] It is clear, however, that even after the capital was moved, Kussara retained some importance, as it was there that Hattusili would call a council on his own succession.[6]
Kussara is occasionally mentioned in the clay tablets of the old Assyrian trade period of Anatolia (as Ku-ša-ra) and less often in the early Hittite Kingdom (as KUR URU Ku-uš-ša-ra)
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" Barjamovic, Gojko (2011). A Historical Geography of Anatolia in the Old Assyrian Colony Period. Museum Tusculanum Press. p. 143—144. ISBN 8763536455. "Since the Hittite texts have so little to offer on the localization of Kussara, and the city disappears out of political history at a very early date, the documents from the Old Assyrian traders constitute the only real source for the location of the city."
// You can see we get more near for solving the problem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Anatolians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Anatolians
2 January 2017 02:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Old Hittite Kingdom" AKA Hittites
(jah, ka Hitid ja Tähed nende koolkonna omad saavadki ka tõsiselt olla kui arvestada võimalusi, kuid ei pruugi olla oluline, et on)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hittites
(jah, ka Hitid ja Tähed nende koolkonna omad saavadki ka tõsiselt olla kui arvestada võimalusi, kuid ei pruugi olla oluline, et on)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hittites
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hittites
2 January 2017 02:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So and from here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kussara
" Kussara (Kushshar) was a kingdom of the Bronze Age in Anatolia. The kingdom, though apparently important at one time, is mostly remembered as the origin of the dynasty that would form the Old Hittite Kingdom "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kussara
" Kussara (Kushshar) was a kingdom of the Bronze Age in Anatolia. The kingdom, though apparently important at one time, is mostly remembered as the origin of the dynasty that would form the Old Hittite Kingdom "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kussara
2 January 2017 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Nende vendade tripp ma usun päris hea, ka kui sinna tuunida, või alles, ligi hoida, kui vaja
2 January 2017 02:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And if you do not belive this panplet use this one here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=RDL41cCGnnjiw&v=M3w1_E1V46M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=RDL41cCGnnjiw&v=M3w1_E1V46M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=RDL41cCGnnjiw&v=M3w1_E1V46M
2 January 2017 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
2 January 2017 02:06
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
2 January 2017 02:01
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
2 January 2017 01:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui muidu võimalus oli pihta saada, u 21 el 1000 st on
(ehk kolm numbrit millal iganes järjest, on umbes üks tuhandest et kõik seitsmed ja kymme viisteist võimalust tuhandest, et mingit muud samavõrdväärset märgatavat .. ja nüüd kui üelda, et pole eriti märkimisväärne, siis arvestada millioniga, üks milionist juba järgmise astme juures võimalik pihta saada olukorras kus samavõrdväärseid on muidu 10 aga maks 12 koos kahe nõrgaga )
(ehk kolm numbrit millal iganes järjest, on umbes üks tuhandest et kõik seitsmed ja kymme viisteist võimalust tuhandest, et mingit muud samavõrdväärset märgatavat .. ja nüüd kui üelda, et pole eriti märkimisväärne, siis arvestada millioniga, üks milionist juba järgmise astme juures võimalik pihta saada olukorras kus samavõrdväärseid on muidu 10 aga maks 12 koos kahe nõrgaga )
2 January 2017 01:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehk siis inimkeeli,
oeh
oeh
2 January 2017 01:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
ja see oli see tähtsusetu mis võtsin hetk peale seda kui suurelt silmeeest läbi vilksatas 777 mingi numbrite komo mille vahepeal oleks hea pildi võtta, eriti arvestades, kui vähe kordi ta uuendab numbrite arvu, vast 20 - 3+ korda selle lugemise ajal, siis näidata täis numbreid sedasi, on ikka üks tuhandest võimalik ainult ja kui palju veel suurem järgmise tasemega
2 January 2017 01:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see oli lihtsalt üks pilt võetud täeisti vaatamatul ajal, kui luges numbreid, siis meelega
2 January 2017 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
See oli enne, ku ita veel luges.. motlesin, et küll tagurpidi tundukssedasi, aga kahtlaselt kuene tundub see ais... et milleks ta ikka lõpuks jääb..
2 January 2017 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
see selleks ,mõte oli, et kui arvuris saab suunata mis sidemeid, disaine ja viisnuke või värve kasutame ja kuidas mitte, et inimlikum oleks, ja et silme etteei jääks ebameeldivusi kuid nende eemladamisel ka eri täis automaatset ja personaalset ja juhtimise arendamise teenuseid pakutakse ka tööna
2 January 2017 01:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ehk siis saame ennast ka numbritest loksutada välja mis kuute ümber on ja seitsmetesse kasvõi selle pärast, et kodeeriaid kaudses usu meelestuses oida positiivsemate ja seega loovamate olukordade juures ainuüksiga numbritega ka teadlikult vahest headust meelde tuletades,
kuigi kasinod ka 777 võidu numbrina kaustavad... mõelda vaid kui need kuued oleks... miks ei ole, nad seda julgneud teha? Vb sest isegi,
kuigi kasinod ka 777 võidu numbrina kaustavad... mõelda vaid kui need kuued oleks... miks ei ole, nad seda julgneud teha? Vb sest isegi,
2 January 2017 01:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
järjepidevalt kopisdes kuni õige koha leiab keegi, pime kala paneb ka ennast õnge
paneb hinge hõngusele
paneb hinge hõngusele
2 January 2017 00:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Head kivi murrad kaua"
kjuid eks vaja üks õige terav hoop anda
kjuid eks vaja üks õige terav hoop anda
2 January 2017 00:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui 10 aastat leelotada, et üks pool yhene ja teine teine, ja meelega märkatavaid liikutmisi teha kes meelega yhele ja teisele poole kolib, kuid plaan pole 10 aasta peale vaid 50+
2 January 2017 00:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sellist väljaostetud raudtee liini mida siis saab kiirkorras sõjaväe jaoks kasutada kui vaja rasketehnika ilam õhuta kiiresti kohale toomiseks, kaitstes ainult juhuslikult yhte raudteed, millest kui vaja ei lubata kellegil ülegi minna ilma nende võõra loata, kui nende olulised asjad selle peal sõitma hakkavad, kriisi hetkel kus suuremad UN tasemel tähtsusel asjad toimivad mis seadusega rahvudsvahelised olema peavad, mis iganes versioonid neist...
see lihtsalt sõjaline fantaasia, kuid,
eelkõige loomadel on paha ja nende elu keskond puruks politatud, st see ala enam kos ei ole ja siis lagundub te teadvuse küljest midagi ära see osa ja jupiti veel nõrgem kuig seda ise aru ei saada, sest saadakse aru, arvatakse, et üks ühel ja teine teisel poolel ... ja kindlasti ka neid pooli proovitakse eraldi meelestada, ühele poole ja teisele poole ruadteed ku ivaja, mentaalsuselt loomaks punast poolt yhelt ja siis sinist poolt sooma poole osas, kuni pooled täis vallutatud ja meie eest rääägitud...
see lihtsalt sõjaline fantaasia, kuid,
eelkõige loomadel on paha ja nende elu keskond puruks politatud, st see ala enam kos ei ole ja siis lagundub te teadvuse küljest midagi ära see osa ja jupiti veel nõrgem kuig seda ise aru ei saada, sest saadakse aru, arvatakse, et üks ühel ja teine teisel poolel ... ja kindlasti ka neid pooli proovitakse eraldi meelestada, ühele poole ja teisele poole ruadteed ku ivaja, mentaalsuselt loomaks punast poolt yhelt ja siis sinist poolt sooma poole osas, kuni pooled täis vallutatud ja meie eest rääägitud...
2 January 2017 00:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
loomulikult tuleb see sedasi promoda, et nagu see oleks neile vajalik ja nende koostööö,
kuid kui see on teise maa oma ja maa selle all ostetud ja siis selle riba saab muuta mis iganes õigusega poolitatuks seadusega, kui kellegil kunagi vaja peaks olema, miks sellise teoreetilise riski laseme ajal oma riiki kui reaalselt veel kindel pole kas klobaalselt praegu pikakas ajaks päris rahu on kindlalt tulemas
kuid kui see on teise maa oma ja maa selle all ostetud ja siis selle riba saab muuta mis iganes õigusega poolitatuks seadusega, kui kellegil kunagi vaja peaks olema, miks sellise teoreetilise riski laseme ajal oma riiki kui reaalselt veel kindel pole kas klobaalselt praegu pikakas ajaks päris rahu on kindlalt tulemas
2 January 2017 00:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eriti kui on NII lihtne, rahval endal koostööd teha, viivitada ja hullutseda, takistada nii kaua kui võimalik samas ise arukas paistes või ülearu liialt uhke oma maa üle,
Ja tema enda kaitseks ka need kes ise ära müüsid ta ümbert, ikka tulevad omad appi ja ütlevad "kui mees ei taha müüa siis ei taha, või kui küsib sellist hinda siis küsib, tõmmake tagasi, peab üldse uurima, kas saab sundida kedagi oma maalt lahkuma kui võõras oma maantee sinu külast läbi ehitada soovib, ja nüüd mingid pärismaalased ees
Ja tema enda kaitseks ka need kes ise ära müüsid ta ümbert, ikka tulevad omad appi ja ütlevad "kui mees ei taha müüa siis ei taha, või kui küsib sellist hinda siis küsib, tõmmake tagasi, peab üldse uurima, kas saab sundida kedagi oma maalt lahkuma kui võõras oma maantee sinu külast läbi ehitada soovib, ja nüüd mingid pärismaalased ees
2 January 2017 00:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehk siis LOOMULIKULT on hetelises momendis presidendil kasulikum mängida mitmel lainel aja alles õigel ajal rünnata mitte nii vara, enne kui ta vastu väge pole koodnatud, nagu merkeliga kes läbi valede kujundite pehmeks ja saamatuks ja veel sinna otsa selle vastaseks tehtud mille eest seisab enamuste meeles
2 January 2017 00:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid jah, seda fakti pandigi Ette Eesti presidendile, et me tõestame, et eestlased on lambad"
!) Kui ütlete, et te ei taha, siis nad järgnevad ja asuvad koos teiega võitlema nagu lambad
2) kui te ütlete, et tahate, siis nad LAMMASTENA isa arvasid, et said maa väärtusest aru mis neil oli ja süüdistades Valitsust ikka ahtnelt küsib nagu varastatud kraami eest sümboolset tasu j
!) Kui ütlete, et te ei taha, siis nad järgnevad ja asuvad koos teiega võitlema nagu lambad
2) kui te ütlete, et tahate, siis nad LAMMASTENA isa arvasid, et said maa väärtusest aru mis neil oli ja süüdistades Valitsust ikka ahtnelt küsib nagu varastatud kraami eest sümboolset tasu j
2 January 2017 00:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
". okey just 3 KM high on peak
" The Taurus Mountains (Turkish: Toros Dağları, Ancient Greek: Ὄρη Ταύρου) are a mountain complex in southern Turkey, dividing the Mediterranean coastal region of southern Turkey from the central Anatolian Plateau. The system extends along a curve from Lake Eğirdir in the west to the upper reaches of the Euphrates and Tigris rivers in the east. It is a part of the Alpide belt in Eurasia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_Mountains
" The Taurus Mountains (Turkish: Toros Dağları, Ancient Greek: Ὄρη Ταύρου) are a mountain complex in southern Turkey, dividing the Mediterranean coastal region of southern Turkey from the central Anatolian Plateau. The system extends along a curve from Lake Eğirdir in the west to the upper reaches of the Euphrates and Tigris rivers in the east. It is a part of the Alpide belt in Eurasia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_Mountains
2 January 2017 00:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
." The country possessed valuable resources, such as silver mines in the Taurus Mountains. The slopes of the mountain range are still partly covered by woods. Annual winter rains made agriculture possible in the area at a very early date (see Çatal Hüyük). The plains at the lower course of the Ceyhan river provided rich cultivated fields. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kizzuwatna
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kizzuwatna
2 January 2017 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
17th century
BC !!!
http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?historyid=ab66
BC !!!
http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?historyid=ab66
http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?historyid=ab66
2 January 2017 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
@Syria " ... good iron is not at present available in my storehouse in Kizzuwatna. I have already told you that this is a bad time for producing iron. They will be producing good iron, but they won't have finished yet. I shall send it to you when they have finished. At present I am sending you an iron dagger-blade.' "
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How many years ago was it ? Who was they then to a future Rome, Christians and to other local people around the world ?
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" Quoted H.W.F. Saggs Civilization before Greece and Rome, Batsford 1989, page 205 "
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How many years ago was it ? Who was they then to a future Rome, Christians and to other local people around the world ?
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" Quoted H.W.F. Saggs Civilization before Greece and Rome, Batsford 1989, page 205 "
2 January 2017 00:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: James Rothschild's Unsecret Society
but i hope it is good2 January 2017 00:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: James Rothschild's Unsecret Society
uh, it is2 January 2017 00:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: James Rothschild's Unsecret Society
but sounds to long,2 January 2017 00:02
Margus Meigo commented on Aldo Gelletti's post.
Group: James Rothschild's Unsecret Society
Can not read for now, but possibly sounds good2 January 2017 00:01
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Group: James Rothschild's Unsecret Society
Merry Christmas or what is this dress She is wearing,2 January 2017 00:01
Margus Meigo commented on Judith Unger's post.
Group: James Rothschild's Unsecret Society
Lady in Red2 January 2017 00:00
Margus Meigo commented on Gül Jeske-Özkan's post.
Group: James Rothschild's Unsecret Society
Was natural for women in what worlds to look like that on these times ?1 January 2017 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kas need need Kelle algsete Esiisade asukohapärast praegu see invasioon ja madin käib, et veel on kohti mis pole üle võetud lõplikult mis ülejäänud olemasolevatele eluenergiat saavad saata kui peaks vaja olema uuesti Judona vastane vaikselt tagasihoidlikult paika panna
1 January 2017 23:53
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ja maailma investorid saavad aru, nad näevad et neil jäi kahesilmavahele, et see areneneud liik erinevalt teistest, lipsuga isaga vahepeal vanemad suurest siirast armast rõõmu selle üle tunnevad, et neil laps neid konni päästma läks, ja linnuloenduses osaleb, et nagu see oleks suur ja südamlikult oluline asi väga eestimeelse rahuliku hinge jaoks
1 January 2017 22:38
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ja kui raudteed, siis te selle vastu pole, aga kuna armastame loomi, siis seeaeg kui turvaline maasees
kunagi varsti olema saab, siis veel, tasub: Ja see tulevik oli näha juba ERR raadiost korrra, et need masinad maa all, eks kuid See siinkohal see punkt, kus ka valida saame, kas selle ruadtee paneme maa alla ja senikaua ehitagu mida iganes, õhus magnet ronge, aga eestis saavad edasi ehitada ainult siis kui neil on turvaline normaalne tehnika selle maa alla ehitamiseks. tehnoloogia kaudu mis maapealset enamasti ei härigi.
kunagi varsti olema saab, siis veel, tasub: Ja see tulevik oli näha juba ERR raadiost korrra, et need masinad maa all, eks kuid See siinkohal see punkt, kus ka valida saame, kas selle ruadtee paneme maa alla ja senikaua ehitagu mida iganes, õhus magnet ronge, aga eestis saavad edasi ehitada ainult siis kui neil on turvaline normaalne tehnika selle maa alla ehitamiseks. tehnoloogia kaudu mis maapealset enamasti ei härigi.
1 January 2017 22:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ärge Müüge, Oma maad, ainult rentige sest ütlete, et eestis nagunii tuleb seadus kus võid ainult edasi müüa maad sellele kes seda välismaalasele ei anna, neile võib aga ainult rentida, välismaalastele,
Pealegi, Tuleb Rendi Õigus eestis jõusse,
mis Ütleb, et ainult rentida saab maa... aa seda juba ütlesin,
Miks ja kelle loal lubati nende seaduste läbiviijatel need asjad nii kaugele viia
Pealegi, Tuleb Rendi Õigus eestis jõusse,
mis Ütleb, et ainult rentida saab maa... aa seda juba ütlesin,
Miks ja kelle loal lubati nende seaduste läbiviijatel need asjad nii kaugele viia
1 January 2017 22:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid hoopis sattus "õlgedest luud" (aga see ei ole luud, mis selle nimi on ?)
1 January 2017 22:26
Margus Meigo commented on Kaie Porr's post.
"Lõkerda" selline sõna mida tulevased enam ei tea tunnetadagi
1 January 2017 22:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kes on Kaie ?
1 January 2017 22:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sest moe ajal alati keegi korgelt kondides kunagi võib kondid murda kuid kui kohe alguses märklauad märgatav (ad) on siis saab ju priskemat valida, ehk siis sellejutuseisukohalt elule kahjulikumat (meile)
1 January 2017 22:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid kindlasti proovige laadida veel nii märkamatult nii palju tema videosi kui võimalik, enne kui see moeks muutub
1 January 2017 21:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid eelkõige edasiminekuks
1 January 2017 18:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Et seda asjaliku veel midagi vajaoleva infode viimase lihvi jaoks paremaks säilitamiseks tarvitada
1 January 2017 18:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tõsiseks sees oleva info ümber protsessimiseks uues AndmeProtsessimiseKeskuses
1 January 2017 18:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kui kellegil jagub siis tasub koheselt TallinaTV materiali ka alla, kuid üldise arhiivina tasub kõike muud ka
1 January 2017 18:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi see mis otseselt mõtlen, on midagi muud veel jätkuvalt suuremalt
1 January 2017 18:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sinuga seoses see ka meenub
1 January 2017 18:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 January 2017 17:56
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1 January 2017 17:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Rahvuslased
nu väikest lisa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38N68h5YWGc#t=274.501505https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38N68h5YWGc#t=274.501505
1 January 2017 03:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIYByY3c4Pk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIYByY3c4Pk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIYByY3c4Pk
1 January 2017 03:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but whenYousee, that one knows and will not respect in purpose, then few next times, prepare for helping out to the end
1 January 2017 02:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
What will You Do for a friend ?
1 January 2017 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on Carlos Salom Ferrari's post.
Will see,
Let's hope You really do!
Let's hope You really do!
1 January 2017 02:02
Margus Meigo replied to Sergei Sarasenidze's comment.
I THOUGHT You say "never ower"
1 January 2017 01:37
Margus Meigo replied to Sergei Sarasenidze's comment.
is Ower when it is Ok
1 January 2017 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kas Täna oli siis hea päev Eesti ülevõtmiseks või mitte1 January 2017 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFshCyasErQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFshCyasErQ
1 January 2017 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. 444
Ainuke video mida Censor praegu kogu KOGU Filtrist läbi lasknud youtube vimasesse päeva
https://youtu.be/VUycfyM8igo?t=104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUycfyM8igo
Ainuke video mida Censor praegu kogu KOGU Filtrist läbi lasknud youtube vimasesse päeva
https://youtu.be/VUycfyM8igo?t=104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUycfyM8igo
https://youtu.be/VUycfyM8igo?t=104
1 January 2017 00:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1 January 2017 00:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vb sellega tegu kuid teise versiooniga kui see mis
31 December 2016 23:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
don't lady know, red is warning color
31 December 2016 23:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and in royal setting, what this kind of suit man know walue of the chair where he sits, and is it serious to worry
31 December 2016 22:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
31 December 2016 22:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kõige lihtsam, on see, et see ainuüksi tatra ja kudumitega juba võimalik oleks nii ajutise kui Tuleviku,kuid kas on võimalik ilma naisi kellegile halvale lõpuks enam mitte lubada mingi kokuleppe ja rahu hoidmiseks, kas seaduslikult veelmaailmas on võimalik meil ka siin eestis, et kellegil oleks õigus reaalselt julgeda naist kodus hoidmas tänapäeva kaitse mehnismide juures mida naised avastamahakkavad kui kryptoniiti http://otse.err.ee/k/etvpluss
31 December 2016 22:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Oih, mis siin mind tänada, ilus oled ju Sina
31 December 2016 12:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Demographic investigations of the Samaritan community were carried out in the 1960s. Detailed pedigrees of the last 13 generations show that the Samaritans comprise four lineages:
The Tsedakah lineage, claiming descent from the tribe of Manasseh
The Joshua-Marhiv lineage, claiming descent from the tribe of Ephraim
The Danafi lineage, claiming descent from the tribe of Ephraim
The priestly Cohen lineage from the tribe of Levi.
Y-DNA and mtDNA comparisons[edit source]
Recently several genetic studies on the Samaritan population were made using haplogroup comparisons as well as wide-genome genetic studies. Of the 12 Samaritan males used in the analysis, 10 (83%) had Y chromosomes belonging to haplogroup J, which includes three of the four Samaritan families. The Joshua-Marhiv family belongs to Haplogroup J-M267 (formerly "J1"), while the Danafi and Tsedakah families belong to haplogroup J-M172 (formerly "J2"), and can be further distinguished by M67, the derived allele of which has been found in the Danafi family. The only Samaritan family not found in haplogroup J was the Cohen family (Tradition: Tribe of Levi) which was found haplogroup E-M78 (formerly "E3b1a M78").[64] This article predated the change of the classification of haplogroup E3b1-M78 to E3b1a-M78 and the further subdivision of E3b1a-M78 into 6 subclades based on the research of Cruciani, et al.[65]
The 2004 article on the genetic ancestry of the Samaritans by Shen et al. concluded from a sample comparing Samaritans to several Jewish populations, all currently living in Israel—representing the Beta Israel, Ashkenazi Jews, Iraqi Jews, Libyan Jews, Moroccan Jews, and Yemenite Jews, as well as Israeli Druze and Palestinians—that "the principal components analysis suggested a common ancestry of Samaritan and Jewish patrilineages. Most of the former may be traced back to a common ancestor in what is today identified as the paternally inherited Israelite high priesthood (Cohanim) with a common ancestor projected to the time of the Assyrian conquest of the kingdom of Israel."[10]
Archaeologists Aharoni, et al., estimated that this "exile of peoples to and from Israel under the Assyrians" took place during ca. 734–712 BCE.[66] The authors speculated that when the Assyrians conquered the Northern Kingdom of Israel, resulting in the exile of many of the Israelites, a subgroup of the Israelites that remained in the Land of Israel "married Assyrian and female exiles relocated from other conquered lands, which was a typical Assyrian policy to obliterate national identities
//obliterate national identities
The Tsedakah lineage, claiming descent from the tribe of Manasseh
The Joshua-Marhiv lineage, claiming descent from the tribe of Ephraim
The Danafi lineage, claiming descent from the tribe of Ephraim
The priestly Cohen lineage from the tribe of Levi.
Y-DNA and mtDNA comparisons[edit source]
Recently several genetic studies on the Samaritan population were made using haplogroup comparisons as well as wide-genome genetic studies. Of the 12 Samaritan males used in the analysis, 10 (83%) had Y chromosomes belonging to haplogroup J, which includes three of the four Samaritan families. The Joshua-Marhiv family belongs to Haplogroup J-M267 (formerly "J1"), while the Danafi and Tsedakah families belong to haplogroup J-M172 (formerly "J2"), and can be further distinguished by M67, the derived allele of which has been found in the Danafi family. The only Samaritan family not found in haplogroup J was the Cohen family (Tradition: Tribe of Levi) which was found haplogroup E-M78 (formerly "E3b1a M78").[64] This article predated the change of the classification of haplogroup E3b1-M78 to E3b1a-M78 and the further subdivision of E3b1a-M78 into 6 subclades based on the research of Cruciani, et al.[65]
The 2004 article on the genetic ancestry of the Samaritans by Shen et al. concluded from a sample comparing Samaritans to several Jewish populations, all currently living in Israel—representing the Beta Israel, Ashkenazi Jews, Iraqi Jews, Libyan Jews, Moroccan Jews, and Yemenite Jews, as well as Israeli Druze and Palestinians—that "the principal components analysis suggested a common ancestry of Samaritan and Jewish patrilineages. Most of the former may be traced back to a common ancestor in what is today identified as the paternally inherited Israelite high priesthood (Cohanim) with a common ancestor projected to the time of the Assyrian conquest of the kingdom of Israel."[10]
Archaeologists Aharoni, et al., estimated that this "exile of peoples to and from Israel under the Assyrians" took place during ca. 734–712 BCE.[66] The authors speculated that when the Assyrians conquered the Northern Kingdom of Israel, resulting in the exile of many of the Israelites, a subgroup of the Israelites that remained in the Land of Israel "married Assyrian and female exiles relocated from other conquered lands, which was a typical Assyrian policy to obliterate national identities
//obliterate national identities
31 December 2016 04:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More about Samaritans
" There is conflict over the etymology of the name for the Samaritans in Hebrew, stemming from the fact that they are referred to differently in different dialects of Hebrew. This has accompanied controversy over whether the Samaritans are named after the geographic area of Samaria (the northern part of what is now globally known as the West Bank), or whether the area received its name from the group. This distinction is controversial in part because different interpretations can be used to justify or deny claims of ancestry over this region, which has been deeply contested in modern times.
In Samaritan Hebrew the Samaritans call themselves "Shamerim", which according to the Anchor Bible Dictionary, is derived from the Ancient Hebrew term Šamerim שַמֶרִים, meaning "Guardians/Keepers/Watchers [of the Torah/Law]".[23]
Biblical Hebrew Šomerim[24] (Arabic: سامرين)[25]) "Guardians" (singular Šomer) comes from the Hebrew Semitic root שמר, which means "to watch, guard"
" There is conflict over the etymology of the name for the Samaritans in Hebrew, stemming from the fact that they are referred to differently in different dialects of Hebrew. This has accompanied controversy over whether the Samaritans are named after the geographic area of Samaria (the northern part of what is now globally known as the West Bank), or whether the area received its name from the group. This distinction is controversial in part because different interpretations can be used to justify or deny claims of ancestry over this region, which has been deeply contested in modern times.
In Samaritan Hebrew the Samaritans call themselves "Shamerim", which according to the Anchor Bible Dictionary, is derived from the Ancient Hebrew term Šamerim שַמֶרִים, meaning "Guardians/Keepers/Watchers [of the Torah/Law]".[23]
Biblical Hebrew Šomerim[24] (Arabic: سامرين)[25]) "Guardians" (singular Šomer) comes from the Hebrew Semitic root שמר, which means "to watch, guard"
31 December 2016 04:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
infos here are not for facts but about snapshot of what facts are written on time, for various reasons explained if asked
31 December 2016 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eve
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As of 2013, estimates for mt-MRCA and Y-MRCA alike are still subject to substantial uncertainty; thus, Y-MRCA has been estimated to have lived during a wide range of times from 180,000 to 581,000 years ago[6][7][8] (with a most likely age of between 120,000 and 156,000 years ago, roughly consistent with the estimate for mt-MRCA[4][9] )
The name "Mitochondrial Eve" alludes to biblical Eve.[10] This has led to repeated misrepresentations or misconceptions in journalistic accounts on the topic. The title of "Mitochondrial Eve" is not permanently fixed to a single individual, but rather shifts forward in time over the course of human history as maternal lineages become extinct. Unlike her biblical namesake, she was not the only living human female of her time. However, by the definition of Mitochondrial Eve, her female contemporaries, though they may have descendants alive today, do not have any descendants today who descend in an unbroken female line of descent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve
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As of 2013, estimates for mt-MRCA and Y-MRCA alike are still subject to substantial uncertainty; thus, Y-MRCA has been estimated to have lived during a wide range of times from 180,000 to 581,000 years ago[6][7][8] (with a most likely age of between 120,000 and 156,000 years ago, roughly consistent with the estimate for mt-MRCA[4][9] )
The name "Mitochondrial Eve" alludes to biblical Eve.[10] This has led to repeated misrepresentations or misconceptions in journalistic accounts on the topic. The title of "Mitochondrial Eve" is not permanently fixed to a single individual, but rather shifts forward in time over the course of human history as maternal lineages become extinct. Unlike her biblical namesake, she was not the only living human female of her time. However, by the definition of Mitochondrial Eve, her female contemporaries, though they may have descendants alive today, do not have any descendants today who descend in an unbroken female line of descent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve
31 December 2016 04:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Strange, how they chnaged time BC / AC .. but have keeped still relig. terminology on biology.
" the discovery of archaic Y-haplogroup has pushed back the estimated age of the Y-MRCA beyond the most likely age of the mt-MRCA. As of 2015, estimates of the age of the Y-MRCA range around 200,000 to 300,000 years ago, roughly consistent with the emergence of anatomically modern humans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Adam
" the discovery of archaic Y-haplogroup has pushed back the estimated age of the Y-MRCA beyond the most likely age of the mt-MRCA. As of 2015, estimates of the age of the Y-MRCA range around 200,000 to 300,000 years ago, roughly consistent with the emergence of anatomically modern humans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Adam
31 December 2016 04:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
HardCore DNA page about it all:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-M215_(Y-DNA)#Distribution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-M215_(Y-DNA)#Distribution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-M215_(Y-DNA)#Distribution
31 December 2016 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Society for Humanistic Judaism defines a Jew as "someone who identifies with the history, culture and fate of the Jewish people." In their view it is therefore possible for a non-religious individual to adopt Judaism and join a Humanistic Jewish community, and for the Society for Humanistic Judaism to adopt the person wanting to be part of the Humanistic Jewish family.[66] As Israeli author Amos Oz puts it, "a Jew is anyone who chooses or is compelled to share a common fate with other Jews."[67] Oz summed up his position more succinctly in a monologue published in Tikkun, saying "Who is a Jew? Everyone who is mad enough to call himself or herself a Jew is a Jew."[68]
The modern genealogical DNA test of ethnicity is certainly a non-religious definition of 'who is a Jew?' as increasing numbers of persons discover their biological and cultural origins outside of the traditional religious setting.[69] The top two Jewish haplogroups for the priestly families, Haplogroup J-M267 and Haplogroup E-M215 (Y-DNA) have genetic origins in the vast Arabian Peninsula, Egypt, the Horn of Africa, and the Levant, which indicates a more complex cultural genesis and potential identity.
Legal structure in Israel[edit]
Israel has no single document called a constitution (the Basic Laws of Israel function as an uncodified constitution); however, the definition of "who is a Jew" has become an important issue in Israeli politics due to the involvement of religious parties in the Knesset.
The issue of who is considered a Jew has given rise to legal controversy in Israel. There have been court cases in Israel since 1962 that have addressed the question.[70][71]
Judaism test[edit]
As of 2010, anyone who immigrated to Israel after 1990 and wishes to marry or divorce via the Jewish tradition within the state limits must go through a "Judaism test"[72] at an Orthodox Rabbinical court. In this test, a person would need to prove their claim to be Jewish to an investigator beyond a reasonable doubt. They would need to present original documentation of their matriline up to their great-grandmother (4 generations),[73] or in the case of Ethiopian Jews, 7 generations back.[74] In addition, they should provide government documents with nationality/religion shown as Jewish (e.g., birth/death certificates, marriage documents, etc.).
In the case of people whose original documents have been lost or never existed, it may take a lot of work to prove their being Jewish.[75] The court rulings are not final, and any clerk has the power to question them[76] even 20 years later, changing one's citizenship status to "on hold", and putting them in jeopardy of deportation.[77]
http://www.haaretz.co.il/news/education/1.1177324
The modern genealogical DNA test of ethnicity is certainly a non-religious definition of 'who is a Jew?' as increasing numbers of persons discover their biological and cultural origins outside of the traditional religious setting.[69] The top two Jewish haplogroups for the priestly families, Haplogroup J-M267 and Haplogroup E-M215 (Y-DNA) have genetic origins in the vast Arabian Peninsula, Egypt, the Horn of Africa, and the Levant, which indicates a more complex cultural genesis and potential identity.
Legal structure in Israel[edit]
Israel has no single document called a constitution (the Basic Laws of Israel function as an uncodified constitution); however, the definition of "who is a Jew" has become an important issue in Israeli politics due to the involvement of religious parties in the Knesset.
The issue of who is considered a Jew has given rise to legal controversy in Israel. There have been court cases in Israel since 1962 that have addressed the question.[70][71]
Judaism test[edit]
As of 2010, anyone who immigrated to Israel after 1990 and wishes to marry or divorce via the Jewish tradition within the state limits must go through a "Judaism test"[72] at an Orthodox Rabbinical court. In this test, a person would need to prove their claim to be Jewish to an investigator beyond a reasonable doubt. They would need to present original documentation of their matriline up to their great-grandmother (4 generations),[73] or in the case of Ethiopian Jews, 7 generations back.[74] In addition, they should provide government documents with nationality/religion shown as Jewish (e.g., birth/death certificates, marriage documents, etc.).
In the case of people whose original documents have been lost or never existed, it may take a lot of work to prove their being Jewish.[75] The court rulings are not final, and any clerk has the power to question them[76] even 20 years later, changing one's citizenship status to "on hold", and putting them in jeopardy of deportation.[77]
http://www.haaretz.co.il/news/education/1.1177324
http://www.haaretz.co.il/news/education/1.1177324
31 December 2016 04:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
83 again
"In 1983, the Reform Central Conference of American Rabbis passed the Resolution on Patrilineal Descent, declaring that "the child of one Jewish parent is under the presumption of Jewish descent. This presumption of the status of the offspring of any mixed marriage is to be established through appropriate and timely public and formal acts of identification with the Jewish faith and people... Depending on circumstances, mitzvot leading toward a positive and exclusive Jewish identity will include entry into the covenant, acquisition of a Hebrew name, Torah study, Bar/Bat Mitzvah, and Kabbalat Torah (Confirmation). For those beyond childhood claiming Jewish identity, other public acts or declarations may be added or substituted after consultation with their rabbi." [13]
Rabbi Mark Washofsky summarizes the 1983 CCAR resolution and subsequent interpretations in Reform responsa literature as follows:
"The resolution is advisory rather than halachic in the traditional sense. It does not establish a new definition of Jewish identity, for its preamble states expressly that it means to be operative only for Reform Jews in North America, not for all Jews everywhere."
"Jewish descent may be from either parent....The Reform Movement presumes the child of one Jewish parent, either mother or father, as Jewish. In fact, the 1983 resolution is in one significant respect more stringent than the traditional definition of Jewish status. The child of a Jewish mother and gentile father, whom halachah regards as clearly Jewish, enjoys but a presumption of Jewish status that must be "established" by "appropriate and timely public and formal acts of identification."
"Biology remains a crucial factor. In the determination of Jewish identity...the child of two gentile parents is, as before, definitely a non-Jew and must undergo a formal conversion in order to become a Jew."
"Both descent and behavior are crucial in determining Jewish status under the resolution. The Jewish status of a child of an intermarriage cannot be determined "automatically" either by biology or behavior. Both elements—descent from one Jewish parent and the performance of mitzvot that lead to a "positive and exclusive Jewish identity -- must be present, and they must be present during childhood."
"The resolution applies only to children raised exclusively as Jews....A child raised simultaneously in Judaism and another religious tradition does not develop a "positive and exclusive" Jewish identity; therefore the presumption of Jewish status is disproved, and the resolution does not apply to that child. He or she will require conversion prior to observing bar or bat mitzvah in the synagogue." [14]
Waiving the need for formal conversion for anyone with at least one Jewish parent who has made affirmative acts of Jewish identity was a departure from the traditional position requiring formal conversion to Judaism for children without a Jewish mother.[15]
The CCAR's 1983 resolution has had a mixed reception in Reform Jewish communities outside of the United States. Most notably, the Israel Movement for Progressive Judaism has rejected patrilineal descent and requires formal conversion for anyone not born of a Jewish mother.[16]
Karaite Judaism believes that Jewish identity can only be transmitted by patrilineal descent. They argue that only patrilineal descent can transmit Jewish identity on the grounds that all descent in the Torah went according to the male line, basing this idea "on the fact that, in the Bible, tribes are given male names and that biblical characters are always referenced by their fathers' names.[17] However, a minority of modern Karaites believe that Jewish identity requires that both parents be Jewish, and not only the father.[18]
The divergence of views has become an issue because Orthodox and Conservative communities do not recognize a person as Jewish if only their father is Jewish.[6] For the person to be accepted as Jewish by an Orthodox or Conservative community (for example, on an occasion of their bar/bat mitzvah or marriage), they require a formal conversion (in accordance with halakhic standards). Orthodox Judaism has a predominant position in Israel. Although Orthodox and Conservative Judaism do not recognize Jewishness through patrilineal descent, "it should also be noted, however, that in the case of a child born to a Jewish father but to a non-Jewish mother, most Orthodox rabbis will relax the stringent demands normally made of would-be converts",[19] and the Rabbinical Assembly of the Conservative movement "agreed that 'sincere Jews by choice' should be warmly welcomed into the community"
"In 1983, the Reform Central Conference of American Rabbis passed the Resolution on Patrilineal Descent, declaring that "the child of one Jewish parent is under the presumption of Jewish descent. This presumption of the status of the offspring of any mixed marriage is to be established through appropriate and timely public and formal acts of identification with the Jewish faith and people... Depending on circumstances, mitzvot leading toward a positive and exclusive Jewish identity will include entry into the covenant, acquisition of a Hebrew name, Torah study, Bar/Bat Mitzvah, and Kabbalat Torah (Confirmation). For those beyond childhood claiming Jewish identity, other public acts or declarations may be added or substituted after consultation with their rabbi." [13]
Rabbi Mark Washofsky summarizes the 1983 CCAR resolution and subsequent interpretations in Reform responsa literature as follows:
"The resolution is advisory rather than halachic in the traditional sense. It does not establish a new definition of Jewish identity, for its preamble states expressly that it means to be operative only for Reform Jews in North America, not for all Jews everywhere."
"Jewish descent may be from either parent....The Reform Movement presumes the child of one Jewish parent, either mother or father, as Jewish. In fact, the 1983 resolution is in one significant respect more stringent than the traditional definition of Jewish status. The child of a Jewish mother and gentile father, whom halachah regards as clearly Jewish, enjoys but a presumption of Jewish status that must be "established" by "appropriate and timely public and formal acts of identification."
"Biology remains a crucial factor. In the determination of Jewish identity...the child of two gentile parents is, as before, definitely a non-Jew and must undergo a formal conversion in order to become a Jew."
"Both descent and behavior are crucial in determining Jewish status under the resolution. The Jewish status of a child of an intermarriage cannot be determined "automatically" either by biology or behavior. Both elements—descent from one Jewish parent and the performance of mitzvot that lead to a "positive and exclusive Jewish identity -- must be present, and they must be present during childhood."
"The resolution applies only to children raised exclusively as Jews....A child raised simultaneously in Judaism and another religious tradition does not develop a "positive and exclusive" Jewish identity; therefore the presumption of Jewish status is disproved, and the resolution does not apply to that child. He or she will require conversion prior to observing bar or bat mitzvah in the synagogue." [14]
Waiving the need for formal conversion for anyone with at least one Jewish parent who has made affirmative acts of Jewish identity was a departure from the traditional position requiring formal conversion to Judaism for children without a Jewish mother.[15]
The CCAR's 1983 resolution has had a mixed reception in Reform Jewish communities outside of the United States. Most notably, the Israel Movement for Progressive Judaism has rejected patrilineal descent and requires formal conversion for anyone not born of a Jewish mother.[16]
Karaite Judaism believes that Jewish identity can only be transmitted by patrilineal descent. They argue that only patrilineal descent can transmit Jewish identity on the grounds that all descent in the Torah went according to the male line, basing this idea "on the fact that, in the Bible, tribes are given male names and that biblical characters are always referenced by their fathers' names.[17] However, a minority of modern Karaites believe that Jewish identity requires that both parents be Jewish, and not only the father.[18]
The divergence of views has become an issue because Orthodox and Conservative communities do not recognize a person as Jewish if only their father is Jewish.[6] For the person to be accepted as Jewish by an Orthodox or Conservative community (for example, on an occasion of their bar/bat mitzvah or marriage), they require a formal conversion (in accordance with halakhic standards). Orthodox Judaism has a predominant position in Israel. Although Orthodox and Conservative Judaism do not recognize Jewishness through patrilineal descent, "it should also be noted, however, that in the case of a child born to a Jewish father but to a non-Jewish mother, most Orthodox rabbis will relax the stringent demands normally made of would-be converts",[19] and the Rabbinical Assembly of the Conservative movement "agreed that 'sincere Jews by choice' should be warmly welcomed into the community"
31 December 2016 04:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Orthodox and Conservative branches of Judaism maintain that the halakhic rules (i.e. matrilineal descent) are valid and binding. Reform and Liberal Judaism do not accept the halakhic rules as binding, and most branches accept a child of one Jewish parent, whether father or mother, as Jewish if the parents raise the child as a Jew and foster a Jewish identity in the child, noting that "in the Bible the line always followed the father, including the cases of Joseph and Moses, who married into non-Israelite priestly families."[10] (However, according to the oral tradition of Orthodox Judaism, the spouses of both Joseph and Moses converted to Judaism prior to marrying them.) The Reform movement's standard states that "for those beyond childhood claiming Jewish identity, other public acts or declarations may be added or substituted after consultation with their rabbi".[11] Advocates of patrilineal descent point to Genesis 48:15–20 and Deuteronomy 10:15.[12] This policy is commonly known as patrilineal descent, though "bilineal" would be more accurate.
31 December 2016 04:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
According to halakha, to determine a person's Jewish status (Hebrew: yuhasin) one needs to consider the status of both parents. If both parents are Jewish, their child will also be considered Jewish, and the child takes the status of the father (e.g., as a kohen). If either parent is subject to a genealogical disability (e.g., is a mamzer) then the child is also subject to that disability. If one of the parents is not Jewish, the rule is that the child takes the status of the mother (Kiddushin 66b, Shulchan Aruch, EH 4:19).[7] The ruling is derived from various sources including Deuteronomy 7:1–5, Leviticus 24:10, Ezra 10:2–3.[7] Accordingly, if the mother is Jewish, so is her child, and if she is not Jewish, neither is her child considered Jewish. In Orthodox Judaism the child of a non-Jewish mother can be considered Jewish only by a process of conversion to Judaism.[8] The child is also freed from any disabilities and special status to which the father may have been subject (e.g., being a mamzer or kohen) under Jewish law
31 December 2016 04:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
All Jewish religious movements agree that a person may be a Jew either by birth or through conversion. According to halakha, a Jew by birth must be born to a Jewish mother. Halakha states that the acceptance of the principles and practices of Judaism does not make a person a Jew. But, those born Jewish do not lose that status because they cease to be observant Jews, even if they adopt the practices of another religion.[5]
Reform and Reconstructionist Judaism often accept a child as Jewish even if only the father is Jewish and if the child chooses to identify as Jewish.[6] As the various denominations of Judaism differ on their conversion processes, conversions performed by more liberal denominations are not accepted by those that are less so
Reform and Reconstructionist Judaism often accept a child as Jewish even if only the father is Jewish and if the child chooses to identify as Jewish.[6] As the various denominations of Judaism differ on their conversion processes, conversions performed by more liberal denominations are not accepted by those that are less so
31 December 2016 04:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Should fallow the Mother
"According to the Mishnah, the first written source for halakha, the status of the offspring of mixed marriages was determined matrilineally.
According to historian Shaye J. D. Cohen, in the Bible, the status of the offspring of mixed marriages was determined patrilineally. He brings two likely explanations for the change in Mishnaic times: first, the Mishnah may have been applying the same logic to mixed marriages as it had applied to other mixtures (kilayim). Thus, a mixed marriage is forbidden as is the union of a horse and a donkey, and in both unions the offspring are judged matrilineally. Second, the Tannaim may have been influenced by Roman law, which dictated that when a parent could not contract a legal marriage, offspring would follow the mother
"According to the Mishnah, the first written source for halakha, the status of the offspring of mixed marriages was determined matrilineally.
According to historian Shaye J. D. Cohen, in the Bible, the status of the offspring of mixed marriages was determined patrilineally. He brings two likely explanations for the change in Mishnaic times: first, the Mishnah may have been applying the same logic to mixed marriages as it had applied to other mixtures (kilayim). Thus, a mixed marriage is forbidden as is the union of a horse and a donkey, and in both unions the offspring are judged matrilineally. Second, the Tannaim may have been influenced by Roman law, which dictated that when a parent could not contract a legal marriage, offspring would follow the mother
31 December 2016 04:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
According to the simplest definition used by Jews for self-identification, a person is a Jew by birth, or becomes one through religious conversion. However, there are differences of opinion among the various branches of Judaism in the application of this definition, including:
Should a person with only one Jewish parent be considered Jewish?
Which conversion processes should be considered valid?
Can one remain a Jew after converting to another religion?
How does being unaware of having Jewish parents affect one's Jewish status?
How is Jewish identity determined in different countries throughout the Jewish Diaspora?
How is the claim to Israeli citizenship adjudicated in the context of the Basic Laws of Israel?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F
Should a person with only one Jewish parent be considered Jewish?
Which conversion processes should be considered valid?
Can one remain a Jew after converting to another religion?
How does being unaware of having Jewish parents affect one's Jewish status?
How is Jewish identity determined in different countries throughout the Jewish Diaspora?
How is the claim to Israeli citizenship adjudicated in the context of the Basic Laws of Israel?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F
31 December 2016 04:13
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Killo's photo.
Imeilus oled
31 December 2016 04:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Vegan UK
She have many other worth videos as well31 December 2016 03:56
Margus Meigo commented on Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)'s photo.
of, one secret from old timers: if you shape your roof in triangle shape this will help human minds to develop better in these houses, with more deeper connection to earthly matters, more easy.. less superficial worry..
well, less ties also, helps with it
// does not help so much with an storms, landing pads and other equipment, but well, must make compromise, variety at least..
well, less ties also, helps with it
// does not help so much with an storms, landing pads and other equipment, but well, must make compromise, variety at least..
31 December 2016 03:00
Margus Meigo commented on Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)'s photo.
Well, factory style building like that for sure can not win architecture beauty award, but let's hope it serves it's purpose
31 December 2016 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to Luckasa Luquitas's comment.
'well, we should say "leak"
31 December 2016 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to Luckasa Luquitas's comment.
Choose Your sides and understand the sides You choose.
Oh, and i newer seen anyone from common people to say at all anything meaningful about Hillary leaks that would put Hillary in to shameful position,
did any of them ever bothered to look emails that are freely online ? No, most not
Did they understand the part they did happen to read reference about in Newspaper?
How can they.. if they did not read..
Unless, they realize, this was for nation protection, the leak, was good for World, for USA, and specially for Hillary
Oh, and i newer seen anyone from common people to say at all anything meaningful about Hillary leaks that would put Hillary in to shameful position,
did any of them ever bothered to look emails that are freely online ? No, most not
Did they understand the part they did happen to read reference about in Newspaper?
How can they.. if they did not read..
Unless, they realize, this was for nation protection, the leak, was good for World, for USA, and specially for Hillary
31 December 2016 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mäletan kui mul Cross keys müürlaste baari krediitkaardi baas enda käes oli ja selle eest kasulikku plaanisin linnale osta (p.deelikuid), siis poliz ka küsis peale mu avalikke selgitusi, et kas ma Good Samaritan v
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20129580
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20129580
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20129580
31 December 2016 02:10
Margus Meigo replied to Maritta Matsalu's comment.
peale seda kogust muutub kogu see vesi läbipaistmatult tumedak
31 December 2016 02:06
Margus Meigo replied to Maritta Matsalu's comment.
daam, vali oma sõnu,
See õnnistatud püha Eesti puu koos ajakohase rituaaliga kuivatatud
See õnnistatud püha Eesti puu koos ajakohase rituaaliga kuivatatud
31 December 2016 02:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Digital samaritans Current state (Redirected from Digital samaritans / Online volunteering) //somewhat:
Online volunteering has been adopted by thousands of nonprofit organizations and other initiatives.[12] There is no organization currently tracking best practices in online volunteering in the USA or worldwide, how many people are engaged in online volunteering, or how many organizations utilize online volunteers, and studies regarding volunteering, such as reports on volunteering trends in the USA, rarely include information about online volunteering (for example, a search of the term virtual volunteering on the Corporation for National Service's "Volunteering in America" yields no results.[18] On IVCO's Forum Discussion Paper 2015[19] it is recommended that a collective measurement tool developed as part of a global measurement framework should also capture online volunteering.
The United Nations runs an online volunteering service, formerly a part of NetAid, a joint initiative of Cisco systems and the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) to help end extreme poverty. The Online Volunteering service, which has been managed since its inception by the United Nations Volunteers (UNV) programme, was one of many activities that began under the NetAid initiative. It was launched in 2000 and quickly attracted thousands of people ready to volunteer online to help organizations working for development. After more than three years of being hosted by the NetAid website, the UNV Online Volunteering service moved to its own URL in February 2004.[20] This service, which connects organizations working in or for the developing world with online volunteers, does have statistics available regarding numbers of online volunteers and involving organizations (i.e. NGOs, other civil society organizations, a government or other public institutions, United Nations agencies or other intergovernmental institutions) that collaborate online via their platform. In 2013, all 17,370 online volunteering assignments offered by development organizations through the Online Volunteering service attracted applications from numerous qualified volunteers. About 58 percent of the 11,037 online volunteers were women, and 60 percent came from developing countries; on average, they were 30 years of age. More than 94 percent of organizations and online volunteers rated their collaboration as good or excellent in 2013.[21] For civil society organizations with limited resources in particular, the impact of online volunteer engagement is significant: 41% involve UN Online Volunteers for technical expertise that is not available internally. According to the same impact evaluation carried out in 2014, in many instances, organizations without access to online volunteers would have difficulties achieving their own peace and development outcomes.[22]
In July 2016, UNV unveiled a redesigned website and launched two additional services: The 1-click query to allow organizations to reach out to half a million people to provide real-time data for their projects, and its new employee online volunteering solution for global companies. Inclusive multi-stakeholder partnerships emerged as a necessity to achieve the Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs), and the first private sector partner of the Online Volunteering service is based in Brazil (Samsung Electronics Latin American Office).[23]
Several other matching services, such as VolunteerMatch and Idealist, also offer virtual volunteering positions with nonprofit organizations in addition to traditional, on-site volunteering opportunities. VolunteerMatch currently reports that about 5 percent of its active volunteer listings are virtual in nature. As of June 2010, its directory included more than 2,770 such listings including roles in interactive marketing, fundraising, accounting, social media, and business mentoring. The percentage of virtual listings has dropped since 2006, when it peaked at close to 8 percent of overall volunteer opportunities in the VolunteerMatch system.
Wikipedia and other Wikimedia endeavors are examples of online volunteering, in the form of crowdsourcing or micro-volunteering; the majority of Wikipedia contributing volunteers aren't required to undergo any screening or training by the nonprofit for their role as researchers, writers or editors, and do not have to make a specific time commitment to the organization in order to contribute service.
Many organizations involved in virtual volunteering might never mention the term, or the words "online volunteer," on their web sites or in organizational literature. For example, the nonprofit organization Business Council for Peace (Bpeace) recruits business professionals to donate their time mentoring entrepreneurs in conflict-affected countries, including Afghanistan and Rwanda, but the majority of these volunteers interact with Bpeace staff and entrepreneurs online rather than face-to-face; yet, the term virtual volunteering is not mentioned on the web site. Bpeace also engages in online micro-volunteering, asking for information leads from its supporters, such as where to find online communities of particular professionals in the USA, but the organization never mentions the term micro-volunteering on its web site. Another example is the Electronic Emissary, one of the first K-12 online mentoring programs, launched in 1992; the web site does not use the phrase virtual volunteering and prefers to call online volunteers online subject matter experts.
Evolving forms of volunteerism will enhance opportunities for people to volunteer. The spread of technology connects ever more rural and isolated areas. NGOs and governments are beginning to realise the value of South-to-South international volunteerism, as well as diaspora volunteering, and are dedicating resources to these schemes. Corporations are responding to the "social marketplace" by supporting CSR initiatives that include volunteerism. New opportunities for engaging in volunteerism are opening up with the result that more people are becoming involved and those already participating can expand their commitment.[2] A phenomenon that is still quite new, but growing rapidly, is the formal integration of online employee volunteering programmes into the infrastructure and business plan of companies
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People engaged in virtual volunteering undertake a variety of activities from locations remote to the organization or people they are assisting, via a computer or other Internet-connected device, such as:
researching subjects (e.g. for Wikia projects)
writing software (see open-source software which is often made by volunteers)
fixing software (e.g. Community patches)
creating web pages
editing or writing proposals, press releases, newsletter articles, etc.
translating documents (e.g. Fan translations)
developing material for a curriculum
designing a database
designing graphics
scanning documents
providing legal, business, medical, agricultural or any other expertise
counseling people
tutoring or mentoring students
moderating online discussion groups
writing songs
creating a podcast
editing a video
monitoring the news
answering questions
tagging photos and files
managing other online volunteers
In the developing world, innovative synergies between volunteerism and technology typically focus on mobile communication technologies rather than the Internet. Around 26 per cent of people worldwide had Internet access in 2009. However, Internet penetration in low-income countries was only 18 per cent, compared to over 64 per cent in developed countries
Online volunteering has been adopted by thousands of nonprofit organizations and other initiatives.[12] There is no organization currently tracking best practices in online volunteering in the USA or worldwide, how many people are engaged in online volunteering, or how many organizations utilize online volunteers, and studies regarding volunteering, such as reports on volunteering trends in the USA, rarely include information about online volunteering (for example, a search of the term virtual volunteering on the Corporation for National Service's "Volunteering in America" yields no results.[18] On IVCO's Forum Discussion Paper 2015[19] it is recommended that a collective measurement tool developed as part of a global measurement framework should also capture online volunteering.
The United Nations runs an online volunteering service, formerly a part of NetAid, a joint initiative of Cisco systems and the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) to help end extreme poverty. The Online Volunteering service, which has been managed since its inception by the United Nations Volunteers (UNV) programme, was one of many activities that began under the NetAid initiative. It was launched in 2000 and quickly attracted thousands of people ready to volunteer online to help organizations working for development. After more than three years of being hosted by the NetAid website, the UNV Online Volunteering service moved to its own URL in February 2004.[20] This service, which connects organizations working in or for the developing world with online volunteers, does have statistics available regarding numbers of online volunteers and involving organizations (i.e. NGOs, other civil society organizations, a government or other public institutions, United Nations agencies or other intergovernmental institutions) that collaborate online via their platform. In 2013, all 17,370 online volunteering assignments offered by development organizations through the Online Volunteering service attracted applications from numerous qualified volunteers. About 58 percent of the 11,037 online volunteers were women, and 60 percent came from developing countries; on average, they were 30 years of age. More than 94 percent of organizations and online volunteers rated their collaboration as good or excellent in 2013.[21] For civil society organizations with limited resources in particular, the impact of online volunteer engagement is significant: 41% involve UN Online Volunteers for technical expertise that is not available internally. According to the same impact evaluation carried out in 2014, in many instances, organizations without access to online volunteers would have difficulties achieving their own peace and development outcomes.[22]
In July 2016, UNV unveiled a redesigned website and launched two additional services: The 1-click query to allow organizations to reach out to half a million people to provide real-time data for their projects, and its new employee online volunteering solution for global companies. Inclusive multi-stakeholder partnerships emerged as a necessity to achieve the Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs), and the first private sector partner of the Online Volunteering service is based in Brazil (Samsung Electronics Latin American Office).[23]
Several other matching services, such as VolunteerMatch and Idealist, also offer virtual volunteering positions with nonprofit organizations in addition to traditional, on-site volunteering opportunities. VolunteerMatch currently reports that about 5 percent of its active volunteer listings are virtual in nature. As of June 2010, its directory included more than 2,770 such listings including roles in interactive marketing, fundraising, accounting, social media, and business mentoring. The percentage of virtual listings has dropped since 2006, when it peaked at close to 8 percent of overall volunteer opportunities in the VolunteerMatch system.
Wikipedia and other Wikimedia endeavors are examples of online volunteering, in the form of crowdsourcing or micro-volunteering; the majority of Wikipedia contributing volunteers aren't required to undergo any screening or training by the nonprofit for their role as researchers, writers or editors, and do not have to make a specific time commitment to the organization in order to contribute service.
Many organizations involved in virtual volunteering might never mention the term, or the words "online volunteer," on their web sites or in organizational literature. For example, the nonprofit organization Business Council for Peace (Bpeace) recruits business professionals to donate their time mentoring entrepreneurs in conflict-affected countries, including Afghanistan and Rwanda, but the majority of these volunteers interact with Bpeace staff and entrepreneurs online rather than face-to-face; yet, the term virtual volunteering is not mentioned on the web site. Bpeace also engages in online micro-volunteering, asking for information leads from its supporters, such as where to find online communities of particular professionals in the USA, but the organization never mentions the term micro-volunteering on its web site. Another example is the Electronic Emissary, one of the first K-12 online mentoring programs, launched in 1992; the web site does not use the phrase virtual volunteering and prefers to call online volunteers online subject matter experts.
Evolving forms of volunteerism will enhance opportunities for people to volunteer. The spread of technology connects ever more rural and isolated areas. NGOs and governments are beginning to realise the value of South-to-South international volunteerism, as well as diaspora volunteering, and are dedicating resources to these schemes. Corporations are responding to the "social marketplace" by supporting CSR initiatives that include volunteerism. New opportunities for engaging in volunteerism are opening up with the result that more people are becoming involved and those already participating can expand their commitment.[2] A phenomenon that is still quite new, but growing rapidly, is the formal integration of online employee volunteering programmes into the infrastructure and business plan of companies
-
People engaged in virtual volunteering undertake a variety of activities from locations remote to the organization or people they are assisting, via a computer or other Internet-connected device, such as:
researching subjects (e.g. for Wikia projects)
writing software (see open-source software which is often made by volunteers)
fixing software (e.g. Community patches)
creating web pages
editing or writing proposals, press releases, newsletter articles, etc.
translating documents (e.g. Fan translations)
developing material for a curriculum
designing a database
designing graphics
scanning documents
providing legal, business, medical, agricultural or any other expertise
counseling people
tutoring or mentoring students
moderating online discussion groups
writing songs
creating a podcast
editing a video
monitoring the news
answering questions
tagging photos and files
managing other online volunteers
In the developing world, innovative synergies between volunteerism and technology typically focus on mobile communication technologies rather than the Internet. Around 26 per cent of people worldwide had Internet access in 2009. However, Internet penetration in low-income countries was only 18 per cent, compared to over 64 per cent in developed countries
31 December 2016 02:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Samaritans appear elsewhere in the Gospels and Book of Acts. In the Gospel of Luke, Jesus heals ten lepers and only the Samaritan among them thanks him (Luke 17:11–19),[13] although Luke 9:51–56 depicts Jesus receiving a hostile reception in Samaria
The in-depth account about Jesus and the Samaritan Woman at the Well is highly significant for understanding Jesus in several relationships: Samaritans, women, and sinners. By talking openly with this woman, Jesus crossed a number of barriers which normally would have separated a Jewish teacher from such a person as this woman of Samaria. Jesus did three things that were highly unconventional and astonishing for his cultural-religious situation:
He as a man discussed theology openly with a woman.
He as a Jew asked to drink from the ritually unclean bucket of a Samaritan.
He did not avoid her, even though he knew her marital record of having had five former husbands and now living with a man who was not her husband.
The disciples showed their astonishment upon their return to the well: "They were marveling that he was talking with a woman.[Jn. 4:27] A man in the Jewish world did not normally talk with a woman in public, not even with his own wife. For a rabbi to discuss theology with a woman was even more unconventional. Jesus did not defer to a woman simply because she was a woman. He did not hesitate to ask of the woman that she let him drink from her vessel, but he also did not hesitate to offer her a drink of another kind from a Jewish "bucket" as he said to her, "Salvation is of the Jews."[Jn. 4:22] Salvation was coming to the Samaritan woman from the Jews, and culturally there was great enmity between the Jews and the Samaritans (considered a half-breed race by the Jews)
Jesus liberated this woman and awakened her to a new life in which not only did she receive but also gave. The Bible says she brought "many Samaritans" to faith in Christ.[v.39] If the men in John 1 were the first "soul winners," this woman was the first "evangelist" in John's gospel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus%27_interactions_with_women#The_woman_at_the_well_in_Samaria
// päris tulnarid pidid olema, kui naistega suhtlemine selline effort oli,
või siis üli pühalikud Inkade ajast allapoole minnes matriarhaatlikult..
The in-depth account about Jesus and the Samaritan Woman at the Well is highly significant for understanding Jesus in several relationships: Samaritans, women, and sinners. By talking openly with this woman, Jesus crossed a number of barriers which normally would have separated a Jewish teacher from such a person as this woman of Samaria. Jesus did three things that were highly unconventional and astonishing for his cultural-religious situation:
He as a man discussed theology openly with a woman.
He as a Jew asked to drink from the ritually unclean bucket of a Samaritan.
He did not avoid her, even though he knew her marital record of having had five former husbands and now living with a man who was not her husband.
The disciples showed their astonishment upon their return to the well: "They were marveling that he was talking with a woman.[Jn. 4:27] A man in the Jewish world did not normally talk with a woman in public, not even with his own wife. For a rabbi to discuss theology with a woman was even more unconventional. Jesus did not defer to a woman simply because she was a woman. He did not hesitate to ask of the woman that she let him drink from her vessel, but he also did not hesitate to offer her a drink of another kind from a Jewish "bucket" as he said to her, "Salvation is of the Jews."[Jn. 4:22] Salvation was coming to the Samaritan woman from the Jews, and culturally there was great enmity between the Jews and the Samaritans (considered a half-breed race by the Jews)
Jesus liberated this woman and awakened her to a new life in which not only did she receive but also gave. The Bible says she brought "many Samaritans" to faith in Christ.[v.39] If the men in John 1 were the first "soul winners," this woman was the first "evangelist" in John's gospel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus%27_interactions_with_women#The_woman_at_the_well_in_Samaria
// päris tulnarid pidid olema, kui naistega suhtlemine selline effort oli,
või siis üli pühalikud Inkade ajast allapoole minnes matriarhaatlikult..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus%27_interactions_with_women#The_woman_at_the_well_in_Samaria
31 December 2016 01:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jesus's target audience, the Jews, hated Samaritans ] to such a degree that they destroyed the Samaritans' temple on Mt. Gerizim
The Samaritans in turn hated the Jews. ] Tensions were particularly high in the early decades of the 1st century because Samaritans had desecrated the Jewish Temple at Passover with human bones
// in today world when 2 groups hate each other they generally come out with a pre-printed sings on Gov agreed day and shout at each other for allowed hours and make few TV shows at most
The Samaritans in turn hated the Jews. ] Tensions were particularly high in the early decades of the 1st century because Samaritans had desecrated the Jewish Temple at Passover with human bones
// in today world when 2 groups hate each other they generally come out with a pre-printed sings on Gov agreed day and shout at each other for allowed hours and make few TV shows at most
31 December 2016 01:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" ...the road from Jerusalem to Jericho was notorious for its danger and difficulty, and was known as the "Way of Blood" because "of the blood which is often shed there by robbers". Martin Luther King, Jr., in his "I've Been to the Mountaintop" speech, on the day before his death, described the road as follows:
As soon as we got on that road I said to my wife, "I can see why Jesus used this as the setting for his parable." It's a winding, meandering road ... In the days of Jesus it came to be known as the "Bloody Pass." And you know, it's possible that the priest and the Levite looked over that man on the ground and wondered if the robbers were still around. Or it's possible that they felt that the man on the ground was merely faking, and he was acting like he had been robbed and hurt in order to seize them over there, lure them there for quick and easy seizure. And so the first question that the priest asked, the first question that the Levite asked was, "If I stop to help this man, what will happen to me?"[7]
//for clarification why most did not help and why this helping was a deal
As soon as we got on that road I said to my wife, "I can see why Jesus used this as the setting for his parable." It's a winding, meandering road ... In the days of Jesus it came to be known as the "Bloody Pass." And you know, it's possible that the priest and the Levite looked over that man on the ground and wondered if the robbers were still around. Or it's possible that they felt that the man on the ground was merely faking, and he was acting like he had been robbed and hurt in order to seize them over there, lure them there for quick and easy seizure. And so the first question that the priest asked, the first question that the Levite asked was, "If I stop to help this man, what will happen to me?"[7]
//for clarification why most did not help and why this helping was a deal
31 December 2016 01:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Samaritans are adherents of Samaritanism, a religion closely related to Judaism. Samaritans believe that their worship, which is based on the Samaritan Pentateuch, is the true religion of the ancient Israelites from before the Babylonian captivity, preserved by those who remained in the Land of Israel, as opposed to Judaism, which they see as a related but altered and amended religion, brought back by those returning from the Babylonian Captivity. The Samaritans believe that Mount Gerizim was the original Holy Place of Israel from the time that Joshua conquered Canaan (Israel). The major issue between Jews and Samaritans has always been the location of the Chosen Place to worship God; Mount Zion in Jerusalem according to the Jewish faith or Mount Gerizim according to the Samaritan faith
// this mountain people have chosen as one of the corner stones..
// this mountain people have chosen as one of the corner stones..
31 December 2016 01:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
In the Talmud, a central post-exilic religious text of Rabbinic Judaism, the Samaritans are called Cutheans (Hebrew: כותים, Kutim), referring to the ancient city of Kutha, geographically located in what is today Iraq.[6] In the Biblical account, however, Kuthah was one of several cities from which people were brought to Samaria,[7] and they worshiped Nergal.[8][9] Modern genetics partially support both the claims of the Samaritans and the account in the Jewish Bible (and Talmud), suggesting that the genealogy of the Samaritans lies in some combination of these two accounts.[10] Genetically, modern Samaritan populations are found to have "much greater affinity" genetically to Jews than to neighbouring Palestinian Arabs. This suggests that the Samaritans remained a genetically isolated population
31 December 2016 01:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Good Samartian, is the Year when 777 Samaritan's is left in a world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Good_Samaritan
"The parable of the Good Samaritan is a didactic story told by Jesus in Luke 10:25–37. It is about a traveler (who may or may not have been a Jew[1]) who is stripped of clothing, beaten, and left half dead alongside the road. First a priest and then a Levite comes by, but both avoid the man. Finally, a Samaritan comes by. Samaritans and Jews generally despised each other, but the Samaritan helps the injured man
Portraying a Samaritan in a positive light would have come as a shock to Jesus' audience. It is typical of his provocative speech in which conventional expectations are inverted.
Some Christians, such as Augustine, have interpreted the parable allegorically, with the Samaritan representing Jesus Christ, who saves the sinful soul.[4] Others, however, discount this allegory as unrelated to the parable's original meaning[4] and see the parable as exemplifying the ethics of Jesus.
The parable has inspired painting, sculpture, satire, poetry, and film. The colloquial phrase "good Samaritan", meaning someone who helps a stranger, derives from this parable, and many hospitals and charitable organizations are named after the Good Samaritan.
// not really matter, innit, .. well. maybe but mention still worth http://www.fillthevoid.org/Apologetics/number7MikeHoggard.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Good_Samaritan
"The parable of the Good Samaritan is a didactic story told by Jesus in Luke 10:25–37. It is about a traveler (who may or may not have been a Jew[1]) who is stripped of clothing, beaten, and left half dead alongside the road. First a priest and then a Levite comes by, but both avoid the man. Finally, a Samaritan comes by. Samaritans and Jews generally despised each other, but the Samaritan helps the injured man
Portraying a Samaritan in a positive light would have come as a shock to Jesus' audience. It is typical of his provocative speech in which conventional expectations are inverted.
Some Christians, such as Augustine, have interpreted the parable allegorically, with the Samaritan representing Jesus Christ, who saves the sinful soul.[4] Others, however, discount this allegory as unrelated to the parable's original meaning[4] and see the parable as exemplifying the ethics of Jesus.
The parable has inspired painting, sculpture, satire, poetry, and film. The colloquial phrase "good Samaritan", meaning someone who helps a stranger, derives from this parable, and many hospitals and charitable organizations are named after the Good Samaritan.
// not really matter, innit, .. well. maybe but mention still worth http://www.fillthevoid.org/Apologetics/number7MikeHoggard.html
31 December 2016 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on Abanoub Adly's post.
Group: Donald J. Trump. President of the United States Facebook Group
Intellectually and technically and by common sense if to understand and respect what Muslims / Islam mission are then OF-COURSE YES (should not be allowed to gov), ...anyone who is real from mentioned will agree with it,
as USA on the eyes of Islam'ists are under Pentagram, as communists, serving Not the values and mission what Brothers should, so when time comes one MUST and WILL serve a God not a System, even if it needs to be in secret 20 years or few generations, for greater plans,
From a EU and USA self law, constitution, human rights and international law perspective
From complete God law perspective, should also be allowed, as America is one nation under God. and so serves a Islam, as latest, Youth Brother, same God, so they will help also USA for the Same plan as Christian and Jew and true blue Masonic brothers will. This what will make Royals smile and common people finally free and Earth Godly place for ever as that is intended in here.
I am voting for Yes. Should allowed, but for these kind who admits they will serve One God, that Older Brothers also serve, that Native people know before there was religion. What scientist will see, is benefiting.30 December 2016 21:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
päris karm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiiV1dDP68s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiiV1dDP68s
30 December 2016 17:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiiV1dDP68s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiiV1dDP68s
30 December 2016 17:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
part 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKOAuO5gEBQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKOAuO5gEBQ
30 December 2016 17:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvlODnG-gJE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvlODnG-gJE
30 December 2016 17:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRhVjTKtoiM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRhVjTKtoiM
30 December 2016 17:09
Margus Meigo commented on Jake Voie's post.
He was under Richard Marcinko, the Team 6, the one who was the Red Cell pro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWCX6IeBH7U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWCX6IeBH7U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWCX6IeBH7U
30 December 2016 17:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ta SEAL Team 6, Richard Marcinko all oli ka mõnda aega, see meeskond kes Binladeni püüdis ja RED Cell ' i juht
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWCX6IeBH7U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWCX6IeBH7U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWCX6IeBH7U
30 December 2016 17:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.10 lessons from Naval Adm. William H. McRaven: "KUi tahad muuta maailma"
1. Tee hommikul voodi
2. Leia partner kellega elust läbi vändata
3. Mõõda inimest südame järgi
4.
5. Ära karda läbikukkumisi
6. Mine raskustest pea ees julgelt alla
7. Ära tagane haide eest (anna neile molli kui vaja!)
8. Ole parim oma mustematel hetkedel
9. Laula kui oled kaelani mudas
10. Ära helista kellukest kergemaks pääsemiseks
Naval Adm. William H. McRaven, BJ '77, ninth commander of U.S.Special Operations Command, Texas Exes Life Member, and Distinguished Alumnus.
https://youtu.be/K13p1DlsDMQ
1. Tee hommikul voodi
2. Leia partner kellega elust läbi vändata
3. Mõõda inimest südame järgi
4.
5. Ära karda läbikukkumisi
6. Mine raskustest pea ees julgelt alla
7. Ära tagane haide eest (anna neile molli kui vaja!)
8. Ole parim oma mustematel hetkedel
9. Laula kui oled kaelani mudas
10. Ära helista kellukest kergemaks pääsemiseks
Naval Adm. William H. McRaven, BJ '77, ninth commander of U.S.Special Operations Command, Texas Exes Life Member, and Distinguished Alumnus.
https://youtu.be/K13p1DlsDMQ
https://youtu.be/K13p1DlsDMQ
30 December 2016 16:23
Margus Meigo commented on Jake Voie's post.
this family-member is prepared
30 December 2016 16:18
Margus Meigo commented on Jake Voie's photo.
üks tõsine munk
30 December 2016 16:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aga need kes kaamera ees olid, nad kuidagi sõbralikult armsad nägid välja, kuid ega vanad kalad vist ei anna interviwsi kah eriti ..
30 December 2016 16:10
Margus Meigo commented on Esben Moller's photo.
30 December 2016 15:50
Margus Meigo replied to Esben Moller's comment.
tell that to movie industry,
but yea, same time, hope is that they plan to prepare world for all of this so them would be prepared.. but they kind of handing out knifes right now but forget to tell what way to hold it on hand and how to use it
but yea, same time, hope is that they plan to prepare world for all of this so them would be prepared.. but they kind of handing out knifes right now but forget to tell what way to hold it on hand and how to use it
30 December 2016 15:39
Margus Meigo replied to Esben Moller's comment.
well, they did not Really choose
but the fact they allow another one to shine in so good light show they not ready for Human Reform jet
but the fact they allow another one to shine in so good light show they not ready for Human Reform jet
30 December 2016 15:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" There is strong evidence, going back to cyberattacks on Estonia as early as 2007, that Russian cybercriminals were working either with or for the Russian state. But now, it seems, the Kremlin is getting directly involved. U.S. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told the Senate Armed Services Committee in March that Russia’s Ministry of Defense is “establishing its own cybercommand” responsible for “conducting offensive cyberactivities.” And the Russian government appears to be stepping up funding for the research and development of cybertechnology at world-class computer science centers such as the prestigious St. Petersburg Polytechnic University and Samara State University, according to information gathered by Seattle-based Taia Global."
" Possible evidence linking recent hacking attacks on the U.S. government to the Russian state includes the digital signatures of a hacker group known as Advanced Persistent Threat 28 (or APT28, identified by the U.S.-based Internet security company FireEye) and a family of hackers labeled CozyDuke, CosmicDuke, MiniDuke and OnionDuke (spotted by Kaspersky Lab). These groups, which may or may not be related, have some giveaway signatures that tie them to Russia. “Indicators in APT28’s malware suggest that the group consists of Russian speakers operating during business hours in Russia’s major cities,” says a recent FireEye report. “More than half of the malware samples...attributed to APT28 included Russian-language settings.”
But the real giveaway is not the forensics of the APT28 codes but their targets over the past five years, which have included Georgia’s ministries of internal affairs and defense, the Polish and Hungarian governments, NATO, the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, the Norwegian army and U.S. defense contractors. The APT28 hacking crew "does not appear to conduct widespread intellectual property theft for economic gain, but instead is focused on collecting intelligence,” says FireEye. “That would be most useful to a government.”
Though there is evidence that the development teams of APT28 and the CosmicDuke, MiniDuke and OnionDuke “worked together and shared same knowledge and coding techniques,” and that they all have Russian origins, it’s likely they are separate groups, says Paganini. “All these groups are state-sponsored hackers, probably backed by the Russian government, though it is likely that they operate under different divisions of the same cyberarmy.”
Was APT28—and the Kremlin—behind hacking attacks on the White House and State Department this year, which cracked open confidential email records (though not, according to a spokesman, the president’s personal email)? The Kremlin strongly denies it. “We know that blaming Russia for everything has turned into a sport,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov joked to journalists. “At least they haven't looked for Russian submarines in [Washington's] Potomac River, as has been the case in a few other countries.”
// hahahah @Last words :D
" Possible evidence linking recent hacking attacks on the U.S. government to the Russian state includes the digital signatures of a hacker group known as Advanced Persistent Threat 28 (or APT28, identified by the U.S.-based Internet security company FireEye) and a family of hackers labeled CozyDuke, CosmicDuke, MiniDuke and OnionDuke (spotted by Kaspersky Lab). These groups, which may or may not be related, have some giveaway signatures that tie them to Russia. “Indicators in APT28’s malware suggest that the group consists of Russian speakers operating during business hours in Russia’s major cities,” says a recent FireEye report. “More than half of the malware samples...attributed to APT28 included Russian-language settings.”
But the real giveaway is not the forensics of the APT28 codes but their targets over the past five years, which have included Georgia’s ministries of internal affairs and defense, the Polish and Hungarian governments, NATO, the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, the Norwegian army and U.S. defense contractors. The APT28 hacking crew "does not appear to conduct widespread intellectual property theft for economic gain, but instead is focused on collecting intelligence,” says FireEye. “That would be most useful to a government.”
Though there is evidence that the development teams of APT28 and the CosmicDuke, MiniDuke and OnionDuke “worked together and shared same knowledge and coding techniques,” and that they all have Russian origins, it’s likely they are separate groups, says Paganini. “All these groups are state-sponsored hackers, probably backed by the Russian government, though it is likely that they operate under different divisions of the same cyberarmy.”
Was APT28—and the Kremlin—behind hacking attacks on the White House and State Department this year, which cracked open confidential email records (though not, according to a spokesman, the president’s personal email)? The Kremlin strongly denies it. “We know that blaming Russia for everything has turned into a sport,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov joked to journalists. “At least they haven't looked for Russian submarines in [Washington's] Potomac River, as has been the case in a few other countries.”
// hahahah @Last words :D
29 December 2016 16:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Hackers seek vulnerabilities in popular programs that allow them to introduce alien code, in particular a weak spot in the code known as a “zero-day,” meaning it remains unpatched and can be used for an attack before it is discovered by everyone else, so there are zero-days between an attack and the discovery of the vulnerability. A good zero-day vulnerability can be sold for $200,000, says Klimburg, but there are many examples of Russian hackers “lending” their zero-day hacks to the government for espionage purposes, then using them for crime later.
“Hundreds of ‘black-hat’ Russian hackers are doing this for a living—whether it’s at the order of Swiss bankers or Ukrainian oligarchs,” says Carr. “Russian hackers who are caught are given the choice to work for the FSB [Federal Security Service] or to go to jail. The FSB also has some on contract hire.”
“Hundreds of ‘black-hat’ Russian hackers are doing this for a living—whether it’s at the order of Swiss bankers or Ukrainian oligarchs,” says Carr. “Russian hackers who are caught are given the choice to work for the FSB [Federal Security Service] or to go to jail. The FSB also has some on contract hire.”
29 December 2016 16:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Kaspersky Lab revealed details of the biggest Internet heist of all time—a raid on over 100 banks in Russia, Ukraine, Japan, the United States and Europe from 2013 to 2014. Kaspersky reported seeing evidence of $300 million in losses just from the banks that had hired it to clean up the mess—and estimated that the total amount stolen was likely to be around $900 million.
“This is cybercrime on an industrial scale,” says one Moscow-based Western Internet security consultant, who helped overhaul several Russian banks’ defenses in the wake of the attack. “In one case in Kiev, they made the bank’s ATMs spew out money, which was collected by people walking by.” The techniques used to break into the bank’s electronic systems via flaws in Adobe and Microsoft programs “were not particularly sophisticated,” says the consultant, “but it was amazing how careful they were not to alert the victims and to keep their backdoor into their systems a secret.” "
“This is cybercrime on an industrial scale,” says one Moscow-based Western Internet security consultant, who helped overhaul several Russian banks’ defenses in the wake of the attack. “In one case in Kiev, they made the bank’s ATMs spew out money, which was collected by people walking by.” The techniques used to break into the bank’s electronic systems via flaws in Adobe and Microsoft programs “were not particularly sophisticated,” says the consultant, “but it was amazing how careful they were not to alert the victims and to keep their backdoor into their systems a secret.” "
29 December 2016 16:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" One of the biggest mysteries of the latest generation of cyberattacks—known in the U.S. government as Offensive Cyber Effects Operations—is working out who is behind them and whether they are being launched with political or criminal intent.
What’s not in doubt is that Russian hackers have long been kings of the cybercrime world. A group of Russians and Ukrainians were named by U.S. federal prosecutors as being behind the biggest cybercrime case in U.S. history, a bank-card fraud spree from 2010 to 2013 that cost companies including J.C. Penney, JetBlue and French retailer Carrefour more than $300 million. A group of Russian “click-jackers” were convicted in the U.S. last year for hijacking users of Apple's iTunes store, Netflix, the U.S. Internal Revenue Service, Amazon .com, ESPN .com and the Wall Street Journal website—as well as computers at NASA.
What’s not in doubt is that Russian hackers have long been kings of the cybercrime world. A group of Russians and Ukrainians were named by U.S. federal prosecutors as being behind the biggest cybercrime case in U.S. history, a bank-card fraud spree from 2010 to 2013 that cost companies including J.C. Penney, JetBlue and French retailer Carrefour more than $300 million. A group of Russian “click-jackers” were convicted in the U.S. last year for hijacking users of Apple's iTunes store, Netflix, the U.S. Internal Revenue Service, Amazon .com, ESPN .com and the Wall Street Journal website—as well as computers at NASA.
29 December 2016 16:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Similarly, in the wake of Russia’s annexation of Crimea in April 2014, ground assaults were accompanied by a deluge of mostly low-tech cyberassaults on over a hundred government and industrial organizations in Poland and Ukraine, as well as attacks on the European Parliament and the European Commission. Many of these attacks featured a modified version of “BlackEnergy,” a kind of malware program known as a Trojan horse that is designed to remotely take over computers. A network of such infected computers, or “bots,” is known as a “botnet.” This can be mobilized to overwhelm a target server with requests for information and crash it—an attack known as Distributed Denial of Service, or DDoS.
“The BlackEnergy malware was authored by a Russian hacker and originally used for DDoS attacks, bank frauds and spam distribution,” says Pierluigi Paganini, founder of the Security Affairs blog and a member of a European Union Agency for Network and Information Security working group. “But the new variant was used in targeted attacks on government entities and private companies across a range of industries.”
“The BlackEnergy malware was authored by a Russian hacker and originally used for DDoS attacks, bank frauds and spam distribution,” says Pierluigi Paganini, founder of the Security Affairs blog and a member of a European Union Agency for Network and Information Security working group. “But the new variant was used in targeted attacks on government entities and private companies across a range of industries.”
29 December 2016 16:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Even after Sony lost 80 percent of its network capability, the hackers were still operating. That shows an incredibly high level of technical ability.”
The Moscow connection is worrying because Russia is the only country to date to have combined cyberwarfare with assaults by conventional guns and tanks. “The Russia-Georgia war of 2008 was a perfect example of a combined kinetic and cyber operation,” says Carr. “Nobody else has ever done anything like that.”
The Moscow connection is worrying because Russia is the only country to date to have combined cyberwarfare with assaults by conventional guns and tanks. “The Russia-Georgia war of 2008 was a perfect example of a combined kinetic and cyber operation,” says Carr. “Nobody else has ever done anything like that.”
29 December 2016 16:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" According to Alexander Klimburg, an affiliate of the Harvard Kennedy School of Government’s Belfer Center and senior research fellow at the Hague Centre for Strategic Studies, “cyberspace today is like Europe in 1914, before World War I. Governments are like sleepwalkers. They do not comprehend the power of new technology and the consequences of misunderstanding each other’s activities.”
According to the U.S. Intelligence Community’s 2015 “Worldwide Threat Assessment” report, Russia and China are the "most sophisticated nation-state actors” in the new generation of cyberwarfare, and Russian hackers lead in terms of sophistication, programming power and inventiveness. “The threat from China is overinflated, while the threat from Russia is underestimated,” says Jeffrey Carr, head of Web security consultancy Taia Global and author of the book Inside Cyber Warfare. “The Russians are the most technically proficient. For instance, we believe that Russian hackers-for-hire were responsible for the Sony attack.”
According to the U.S. Intelligence Community’s 2015 “Worldwide Threat Assessment” report, Russia and China are the "most sophisticated nation-state actors” in the new generation of cyberwarfare, and Russian hackers lead in terms of sophistication, programming power and inventiveness. “The threat from China is overinflated, while the threat from Russia is underestimated,” says Jeffrey Carr, head of Web security consultancy Taia Global and author of the book Inside Cyber Warfare. “The Russians are the most technically proficient. For instance, we believe that Russian hackers-for-hire were responsible for the Sony attack.”
29 December 2016 16:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" It nearly happened in the United States too, when unknown hackers succeeded in penetrating U.S. electrical, water and fuel distribution systems early in 2014. While old-fashioned, relatively low-tech data hacks make headlines—for instance, high-profile break-ins over the last 12 months to the email systems and databases of the White House, State Department, Department of Homeland Security, Department of Defense and Sony Pictures Inc.—what has security officials seriously worried is the new and dangerous world of cyber-to-physical infrastructure attacks.
“This is not theoretical,” National Security Agency Director Admiral Michael Rogers told the U.S. House of Representatives’ Intelligence Committee recently. Hacking attacks on the U.S. and its allies are “costing us hundreds of billions of dollars,” Rogers warned, and will result in “truly significant, almost catastrophic failures if we don’t take action.”
“This is not theoretical,” National Security Agency Director Admiral Michael Rogers told the U.S. House of Representatives’ Intelligence Committee recently. Hacking attacks on the U.S. and its allies are “costing us hundreds of billions of dollars,” Rogers warned, and will result in “truly significant, almost catastrophic failures if we don’t take action.”
29 December 2016 16:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"2009 when the Stuxnet program infiltrated Iranian computer systems and wrecked thousands of uranium-enriching centrifuges. But now other players—especially the Russians and Chinese—are getting into the game of remotely using computer networks to destroy infrastructure and threaten human lives. Last year, according to a report by Germany’s Federal Office for Information Security, a blast furnace melted down in an unnamed industrial city in Germany after a digital attack on its control systems, causing “massive damage."
http://europe.newsweek.com/russias-greatest-weapon-may-be-its-hackers-326974?rm=eu
http://europe.newsweek.com/russias-greatest-weapon-may-be-its-hackers-326974?rm=eu
29 December 2016 16:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or
"I find it great that directors are looking for topics about the deep web and underground hacker scene, but I think we've seen enough psycho-thriller hacking movies to know that what we need in a hacker movie is a character who's strong with a meaningful purpose whose story is truly compelling. Enough with the personality and psychological disorders, bring a fresh character who knows saving the world isn't what he/she is really doing.
The bottom line is: I wanted to like this movie because the theme interests me greatly, but I didn't really, mostly because of déjà vu.."
"I find it great that directors are looking for topics about the deep web and underground hacker scene, but I think we've seen enough psycho-thriller hacking movies to know that what we need in a hacker movie is a character who's strong with a meaningful purpose whose story is truly compelling. Enough with the personality and psychological disorders, bring a fresh character who knows saving the world isn't what he/she is really doing.
The bottom line is: I wanted to like this movie because the theme interests me greatly, but I didn't really, mostly because of déjà vu.."
29 December 2016 16:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
OR AS SOME PEOPLE THINK, IDEAS ARE COPYRIGHTED AND ended up in conclusion that.:
"There were also another words stuck in my head after the credits started to roll: Cliché, cheesy and unoriginal. How come that so many film makers have this picture of a hacker, who MUST wear a hoodie with its hood on while "hacking"? Is that some kind of metaphor for somebody, who doesn't want to be seen? Well so be it, but this movie isn't a poem, it's obviously trying to be some sort of entertaining hacker movie with a "believable" view inside the h4x0r scene. And it fails miserably. The members of the "CLAY" group are so cheesy and simply superficial it hurts. The romance between the main character and a random college girl is dull, empty and doesn't fit in the whole story. And the execution of some of the hacking activities is laughable as it's technically not possible. But after all, I remained seated and watched it through, because as stated, it bared some sort of entertainment and I wanted to see where it's going to land. And it landed in my drawer named "Never see again""
"There were also another words stuck in my head after the credits started to roll: Cliché, cheesy and unoriginal. How come that so many film makers have this picture of a hacker, who MUST wear a hoodie with its hood on while "hacking"? Is that some kind of metaphor for somebody, who doesn't want to be seen? Well so be it, but this movie isn't a poem, it's obviously trying to be some sort of entertaining hacker movie with a "believable" view inside the h4x0r scene. And it fails miserably. The members of the "CLAY" group are so cheesy and simply superficial it hurts. The romance between the main character and a random college girl is dull, empty and doesn't fit in the whole story. And the execution of some of the hacking activities is laughable as it's technically not possible. But after all, I remained seated and watched it through, because as stated, it bared some sort of entertainment and I wanted to see where it's going to land. And it landed in my drawer named "Never see again""
29 December 2016 16:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The film is unique in its way to show the Darknet (no spoilers) in a very understandable way. The chosen imagery to show what is going on behind the screen is innovative and is visualized in a way, even people without knowledge of the subject can easily understand and follow the plot."
"The plot of who Am I is very complex. At the beginning it doesn't look so deep, but while it comes to conclusion the movie shows us his high-class."
"Hacker movies often are boring and not well made. Here that is not the case. Hacking is showed how it is really done and it makes sense and does not look silly. The action is well done and everything is well acted. The cast is interesting and all characters are different from each other. That makes for an amazing ride that you can't take your eyes off.
The end of this movie is really Christopher Nolan like and you don't know what the HACK you've just seen. I love it so much.
You can go see this movie more than just once.."
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3042408/reviews?ref_=tt_urv
"The plot of who Am I is very complex. At the beginning it doesn't look so deep, but while it comes to conclusion the movie shows us his high-class."
"Hacker movies often are boring and not well made. Here that is not the case. Hacking is showed how it is really done and it makes sense and does not look silly. The action is well done and everything is well acted. The cast is interesting and all characters are different from each other. That makes for an amazing ride that you can't take your eyes off.
The end of this movie is really Christopher Nolan like and you don't know what the HACK you've just seen. I love it so much.
You can go see this movie more than just once.."
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3042408/reviews?ref_=tt_urv
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3042408/reviews?ref_=tt_urv
29 December 2016 16:36
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
'ja valitsemise osas, kas see tundub siis ka, et ei ole sedasi v?
See naise enda soov ju, et nii oleks, sest ta suurus on hoomamatu mehe osas, oleks mõeldamatu, kui otsene kehaline valitsemine peaks naise käe all olema, sest siis mehest ei kasvaks mingit meest, mis naisele kasu tooks, siis mees ainult roomaks ja oleks limane sellise võimu ligi pääsemiseks... parem on lasta mehel tarkuses see avastada või oma elu hävitada, teadmatuses.
sõna valitsusest saab iimene ka vastavalt oma südamele aru. Tuleb vaadata kes oli tegelikult enne, mitte mis järjekorras siin maised keahd loodi.
valitsemise vahe on selles, kes valitseb hirmus ja kes armus
Tuleb valitseda sedasi, nagu naine, jumal, loodus ette kirjutanud on
Kuid jah, muidugi valitsemine, suurimate võimude enda järgi Tundma panemine on suur vastutus, kahju, et selle suuruse arusaama vastu vaieldakse, Selle asemel, et siin austusega tõsidusega toimetama hakata, et Jumalariik siin taastada, siin on palju suuremad tasemed kui Paradiisis, käepärast.
See naise enda soov ju, et nii oleks, sest ta suurus on hoomamatu mehe osas, oleks mõeldamatu, kui otsene kehaline valitsemine peaks naise käe all olema, sest siis mehest ei kasvaks mingit meest, mis naisele kasu tooks, siis mees ainult roomaks ja oleks limane sellise võimu ligi pääsemiseks... parem on lasta mehel tarkuses see avastada või oma elu hävitada, teadmatuses.
sõna valitsusest saab iimene ka vastavalt oma südamele aru. Tuleb vaadata kes oli tegelikult enne, mitte mis järjekorras siin maised keahd loodi.
valitsemise vahe on selles, kes valitseb hirmus ja kes armus
Tuleb valitseda sedasi, nagu naine, jumal, loodus ette kirjutanud on
Kuid jah, muidugi valitsemine, suurimate võimude enda järgi Tundma panemine on suur vastutus, kahju, et selle suuruse arusaama vastu vaieldakse, Selle asemel, et siin austusega tõsidusega toimetama hakata, et Jumalariik siin taastada, siin on palju suuremad tasemed kui Paradiisis, käepärast.
29 December 2016 15:25
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
Loomulikult sobilikud alguses, see ainuke moodus ju kuidas õige pilt ette saada, hakkad sellest pihta mida mõistad ja siis seda pidi edasi liikudes, vaatad mis veel arusaamatuks jääb uuesti ja uuesti uue arusaadavaga eelmist läbi renderdades
29 December 2016 15:23
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
kas selle juudi rabide " (Kg.25:19,24) " leidsid ülesse juba, selles palju asju oli loetud, palju materjali, vaataks seda koos
Mul endal sellist väljaannet pole käepärast
Mul endal sellist väljaannet pole käepärast
29 December 2016 15:22
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
Ja kus Sa sul siin see vale olema tundub, et oled sünnitada proovinud, tundub valutu olema?
Mitte, et see lõplikult asjasse puutuks
Mitte, et see lõplikult asjasse puutuks
29 December 2016 15:18
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov nu mis see meie meeste asi suurt on mida jumal ja naine omavahel räägib, me sellest suurt ei mõista nagunii.
29 December 2016 15:16
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
Seda ikka saad aru, et enamus laused piiblis on Jumala poolt välja toodud mida erinevad inimhinge osad erinevas aegades ja olukorras rääkisid, üldpildi loomiseks ja teadvuse sidumiseks, ajas liikumiseks ja arusaamade mõistmiseks.
Mitte jumal ei räägi.
Ta näitab kes mida ütles, ja tegi, mida kuulutas ja mida tegelikult tegi ja uskus.
Aru tuleb saada ka erinevate ususektide ja infiltratsioonide tagamaid ja seda miks nende pärast tasub või tasub mitte muretseda,
Sest tõed on üles loetud, millise tõe endale keegi kokku paneb sellest, on vabatahe, osati, ja ainult ennast tasub suuresti süüdistada, kui pole viitsiud kuulata neid kes viitsusid selgitada
Mitte jumal ei räägi.
Ta näitab kes mida ütles, ja tegi, mida kuulutas ja mida tegelikult tegi ja uskus.
Aru tuleb saada ka erinevate ususektide ja infiltratsioonide tagamaid ja seda miks nende pärast tasub või tasub mitte muretseda,
Sest tõed on üles loetud, millise tõe endale keegi kokku paneb sellest, on vabatahe, osati, ja ainult ennast tasub suuresti süüdistada, kui pole viitsiud kuulata neid kes viitsusid selgitada
29 December 2016 14:46
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
Miks Sa islami lehe pealt otsid oletatavatest Katoliiklaste kirjandusest Juutide rabide ütlusi ?
Mis kontektstis see " Kg.25:19,24 " on toodud, kes rääkis seda ja miks ?
Mis kontektstis see " Kg.25:19,24 " on toodud, kes rääkis seda ja miks ?
29 December 2016 14:42
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
Mis on kristluse (ja enamuste religioonide) ja Judaismi suurimad erinevused?
29 December 2016 14:02
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
Ja kuna sulle islami lehe pealt meeldib kopeerida asju, millegi pärast, kui juudi asjadest räägid, siis
Siin on juudi versioonid ka piiblist nüüd olemas, leia mulle enne see koht adekvaatsest kohast, siis saab edasi rääkida, mida see koht tähendab
https://www.biblegateway.com/
Ühe lause lahti seletamiseks, kui kiiresti kokkuvõte võtta, saab vabalt kuluda tunde,
kuid võib ka aastaid minna või eluaeg, et seda ise tajumisena arusaada.
Siin on juudi versioonid ka piiblist nüüd olemas, leia mulle enne see koht adekvaatsest kohast, siis saab edasi rääkida, mida see koht tähendab
https://www.biblegateway.com/
Ühe lause lahti seletamiseks, kui kiiresti kokkuvõte võtta, saab vabalt kuluda tunde,
kuid võib ka aastaid minna või eluaeg, et seda ise tajumisena arusaada.
https://www.biblegateway.com/
29 December 2016 14:00
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov nendest asjadest, tuleb mitte arusaada oma ilmalikust eelarvamusest lähtudes, vaid tajuda Nende arusaama järgi, et miks Nende kultuur on viimane suurim avalik Matriarhaatelik (Naist Jumaldav (mitte Greeka vaid Reaalses mõttes)) tarkus siin maal peale Wicade ja mõningate aasia, aafrika, peruulaste ja päris ameeriklaste väikeste gruppide (Eestlased, on Euroopa matriarhaatlike ajaloo tippe. Lihtsalt tuleb oma õiged värvid nähtavale pesta uuesti).
Kui loed piiblit jms pühakirje ja ilmutusi nagu tavalist teksti, siis ilmselgelt saad ainult ühe dimensioonilise info, mis on äärmiselt puudulik ja sama kasulik kui tassi suvalise nurga alt pildil vaadata ja siis selle eseme olemust arusaamata kirjeldada ruumilisusest mitte arusaadava inimese poolt mida ta näeb.
Ega midagi suurt sellest välja ei tule, kui iganes püüdliku aatomi tasemel keegi seda oma maises tarkuses kirjeldada proovib selle osas mida silm näeb ainult, aga need tekstid on sedasi toimivad, et Sa lased nad südamest läbi (saades aru ENNE kes ja miks nad kirjutas) ja siis avatakse sulle nende asjade tagamaad, mida selles ajahetkes vaja on edasi liikumiseks (tuuakse vaimuhoogude / piltidena läbi keha meeltesse).
See on PALJU kõrgem tehnoloogia kui tuumajaamad kui tagasihoidlikult rääkida. Siin arvata, et seda hakata lugema enda moodi, et sellest miskit arusaama mida ja miks loetakse, et siis sellest miskit arvestatavat vaidlus, kriitika elementi tuleks, millele tasuks reaalselt tähelepanu pöörata, on lootusetu
Kui loed piiblit jms pühakirje ja ilmutusi nagu tavalist teksti, siis ilmselgelt saad ainult ühe dimensioonilise info, mis on äärmiselt puudulik ja sama kasulik kui tassi suvalise nurga alt pildil vaadata ja siis selle eseme olemust arusaamata kirjeldada ruumilisusest mitte arusaadava inimese poolt mida ta näeb.
Ega midagi suurt sellest välja ei tule, kui iganes püüdliku aatomi tasemel keegi seda oma maises tarkuses kirjeldada proovib selle osas mida silm näeb ainult, aga need tekstid on sedasi toimivad, et Sa lased nad südamest läbi (saades aru ENNE kes ja miks nad kirjutas) ja siis avatakse sulle nende asjade tagamaad, mida selles ajahetkes vaja on edasi liikumiseks (tuuakse vaimuhoogude / piltidena läbi keha meeltesse).
See on PALJU kõrgem tehnoloogia kui tuumajaamad kui tagasihoidlikult rääkida. Siin arvata, et seda hakata lugema enda moodi, et sellest miskit arusaama mida ja miks loetakse, et siis sellest miskit arvestatavat vaidlus, kriitika elementi tuleks, millele tasuks reaalselt tähelepanu pöörata, on lootusetu
29 December 2016 13:49
Margus Meigo commented on PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals)'s video.
they will see some time when they die, what they did
29 December 2016 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to John Jones's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
why not?29 December 2016 00:43
Margus Meigo commented on Eliahi Priest's post.
what a fuck he thinking he is Asian or something ?
Roman frekaing third empire, THEIR kind is in a fault of most troubles that we are in,
Roman frekaing third empire, THEIR kind is in a fault of most troubles that we are in,
29 December 2016 00:38
Margus Meigo replied to Ojaswa Krishnatreya's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
it is newer just a trip28 December 2016 23:20
Margus Meigo replied to David Azar's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
People talking about time like they would know it has anything to do with LSD
LSD does the thing what forbidden fruit is doing,
perhaps yes?
It is like someone talking about "bud-wiser is devil drink" and you start to look in to date of when this company was made, instead of realizing they talk about alcohol28 December 2016 23:19
Margus Meigo replied to Michael Rivera's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
Religious, or rather Godly bias is a blessing, not a problem28 December 2016 23:17
Margus Meigo replied to Joanna Te's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
hardone28 December 2016 23:16
Margus Meigo replied to Brendan Hall's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
heaven is where you rest, is spiritual place, earth in anotherhand can be godly28 December 2016 22:53
Margus Meigo replied to Dimitri Selsky's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
binaural can be dangerous also, really dangerous28 December 2016 22:52
Margus Meigo replied to Robbin Banks's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
as they say, when u get message hang up phone, but thanks drugs to get us here28 December 2016 22:51
Margus Meigo replied to Justin Alexander Thibault's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
yes, All versions of it28 December 2016 22:47
Margus Meigo replied to Justin Alexander Thibault's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
Bible is what it have to be, if someone has failed to read it on pot of LSD and do not realize the multi layered time traveling and human soul and earth situation explanation tool.. then why to even spend time on arguing when one talks in many dimensions lower level, there newer can not become any use but just you have to lower yourself and then ... then what, can you even get up back, with him?
If you REALLY sure, you talking with Real human, who is just possessed or programmed, and you realize dangers of task, then take it up. Other times, just say what you got to say and do not get emotionally engaged with wrongdoers.28 December 2016 22:47
Margus Meigo replied to Justin Alexander Thibault's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
Do You got point also with what You say? You know that the game to deceive Real humans about illusion as there would be more gods is old?
There is, for a REAL human, a only one Maker, all genetically modified half humans who run their mouth as they do not have connection to a soul nor chance to get to it if them are biological A.I, should be only used for our own advancement, for training of language and for concurring the enemy, passing the test, and PS: love your enemy, even when you make them perish.28 December 2016 22:44
Margus Meigo replied to Aðalsteinn Archmage Vestmann's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
people who still are so lame in purpose, talking silliness like "god do not exist" RARELY actually are real humans, rare times when they are, them are programmed or possessed. slaves of other side, so WHY would anyone in their right mind even spend time with arguing with these who perish for sure?
Let, if they are real humans, make SERIOUS trip's... and see if they after that still dare to doubt if there is a Creator (of us)28 December 2016 22:38
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
ja siin on räägitud üld filosooofiliselt, kui Inimloomast, kellel on viirus sees, st meestel enamasti ikka, ja kelle läbi asju toimetatakse, et maailma, ehk siis naistesse sisse murda läbi pideva õppimise ja arendamise, ja südamete murdmise,
kuid kommunismi ohvriteks sattunud sellest midagi ei teaks
kuid kommunismi ohvriteks sattunud sellest midagi ei teaks
28 December 2016 22:15
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov ära nüüd ole liberaalne, vaid selgita oma sõnade tagamaid, alustus lauseks oli hea, kuid nüüd ootaks sisu ka
28 December 2016 22:14
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
et kohe deCryptima ka ei tasu .. kui meil endal troja sees siis läbi meie inimasjade, jumalaasjadele ligi saadaks, et meid endeid paremini likvideerida, meid nagu koerapyydja kepi otsas hoides ja suunates kuhu arvame, et ise läheme.,.. ja treenitakse seni kuni ise arvame, et ise teeme ...
28 December 2016 20:35
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
ja kui teenib crypto asja... siis peame aru saama, otsustame, kas see on millegi hea kaitseks et me siin vangis, mida teenima peame , tegema, või on see halb kes meid hoiab vangis, või hoitakse meid kaitse all või meie eest kaitstakse
28 December 2016 20:34
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
Loomulikult on universaalsed ainutõed, see esimene elementaarne tõde,
ja mulle pole veel keegi ütelnud lauset ega tõestust mis vähegi isegi mõtlema paneks, et ei oleks nii lootusetu see olukord, isegi siis kui näinud, et me heal juhul ainult bensiin auto jaoks, et mis suhet meil sõitjaga olla saab või arusaame tema vajadustest.. me siin protsessime millioneid aastat, et kytus valmis saaks..ja ... millal ise plastiku elu yle möelnud oleme... kuid jah, isegi sellises olukorras, ma arvan, et vaja arendada, et saaksime, aidata Juhti veelgi paremini ja mitte ennast alaväärsena tunda.
sest isegi kui võtta see näpunipsatuse arusaam aluseks, siis kas see mitte poleks elementaarne alus absolutne tõde, et nii on?
Muidugi, kui ikka kindalt ei tea, et on siis ei ole ka... aga kui tead, et on, siis tuleb edasi mõelda, et miks ja mida siis teha või teha mitte ja eelkõige, et võtta siis misjooniks, et see arusaam endale selgeks teha, et osad asjad ON nii
ja mulle pole veel keegi ütelnud lauset ega tõestust mis vähegi isegi mõtlema paneks, et ei oleks nii lootusetu see olukord, isegi siis kui näinud, et me heal juhul ainult bensiin auto jaoks, et mis suhet meil sõitjaga olla saab või arusaame tema vajadustest.. me siin protsessime millioneid aastat, et kytus valmis saaks..ja ... millal ise plastiku elu yle möelnud oleme... kuid jah, isegi sellises olukorras, ma arvan, et vaja arendada, et saaksime, aidata Juhti veelgi paremini ja mitte ennast alaväärsena tunda.
sest isegi kui võtta see näpunipsatuse arusaam aluseks, siis kas see mitte poleks elementaarne alus absolutne tõde, et nii on?
Muidugi, kui ikka kindalt ei tea, et on siis ei ole ka... aga kui tead, et on, siis tuleb edasi mõelda, et miks ja mida siis teha või teha mitte ja eelkõige, et võtta siis misjooniks, et see arusaam endale selgeks teha, et osad asjad ON nii
28 December 2016 20:26
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
if that comforts us to think so, should, as it takes away responsibility, humbleness and need to serve
unfortunately progress also, often
unfortunately progress also, often
28 December 2016 20:07
Margus Meigo replied to Philip Abt's comment.
sure
28 December 2016 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on Marje Latik's photo.
Wau, on ikka ebatavapärane perekas!
28 December 2016 20:01
Margus Meigo commented on Andy Cracknell's post.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
always, before attacking your body that was given to you ,that you took, must think about proper large dosage of magic mushrooms, Psychedelics,
a must,28 December 2016 19:53
Margus Meigo replied to Troy Shrewsbury's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
why you in it?28 December 2016 19:35
Margus Meigo replied to Vance Brodowski's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
You need to eat 2-3 days Red mushroom, fly shroom, after you have made 1-2 strong psychedelic trips, we mean STRONG one, 300 plus LSD or Terrence McKenna dosage of mushrooms, ... if You plan to kill yourself or want to die then experience proper world's first, then you know how mad idea would be kill and how good to survive and make good.
Last thing you want to do all again in more hard way in this world, ... as every day you survive you already passed.
But important is to QUIT cigarettes and alcohol if you want ANY respect from life and world
if you cant quit then use higher dosages with respect
also keep bible near if you serious and want to be safe.
Then You know from where to start again, if something go wrong, but always not go, if you want to worlsd for you to teach how to trust a God28 December 2016 19:34
Margus Meigo replied to Vance Brodowski's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
so these 2 people, who thought they want to kill or die,
what is the strongest Psychedelics you take?28 December 2016 18:06
Margus Meigo replied to Vance Brodowski's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
not funny28 December 2016 16:57
Margus Meigo commented on Andy Cracknell's post.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
we should allow them to get extreme amounts of psychedelics and other shamanic tools
but yea, in nature...28 December 2016 16:57
Margus Meigo commented on Danique Saida's post.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
Opposite28 December 2016 16:56
Margus Meigo commented on Q Nature's link.
for us?
28 December 2016 03:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yes, crab
28 December 2016 03:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
It is kind of like that, times 420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvBnaaMo92g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvBnaaMo92g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvBnaaMo92g
27 December 2016 23:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
was he, for sure not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlZPiFAbudA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlZPiFAbudA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlZPiFAbudA
27 December 2016 01:26
Margus Meigo commented on Marek Merimäe's post.
There was the wisdom that a man learned about Apple a day keeps dentist away, and it did not work at all when he cheated with doctors wife...
26 December 2016 23:06
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
comments on videos:
Harry Flashman1 year ago
heroin brought me here
Reply 15
Alex Wek1 year ago
+Colin Bell same
Reply 2
Harry Flashman1 year ago
+Alex Wek Good clean fun was a thing of the past as soon as I picked up that needle. Bad, dirty, fun is where it's at now.
AlyssaQ4202 months ago
Morphine brought me. H is rare where I live.
pure snow1 month ago
Harry - you still shooting? My arms dried up a lot time ago, but over the past couple years I was hitting in my wrists and hands if at all. Got tired of missing or hitting arteries all the time, now I smoke it :( seems so wasteful... do you think skin popping would be better to help dope sickness than smoking? Would love some opinions
Harry Flashman1 year ago
heroin brought me here
Reply 15
Alex Wek1 year ago
+Colin Bell same
Reply 2
Harry Flashman1 year ago
+Alex Wek Good clean fun was a thing of the past as soon as I picked up that needle. Bad, dirty, fun is where it's at now.
AlyssaQ4202 months ago
Morphine brought me. H is rare where I live.
pure snow1 month ago
Harry - you still shooting? My arms dried up a lot time ago, but over the past couple years I was hitting in my wrists and hands if at all. Got tired of missing or hitting arteries all the time, now I smoke it :( seems so wasteful... do you think skin popping would be better to help dope sickness than smoking? Would love some opinions
26 December 2016 21:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Do we Here, people, even realize what this means ?
26 December 2016 21:48
Margus Meigo replied to Ülle Tuul's comment.
Group: Kristlased
eks kõigil sama messias ja igal ühel oma26 December 2016 05:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
man, only 5 reactions, nothing shocks people anymore in these days
26 December 2016 05:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Chaos Magick (CMG)
Nature26 December 2016 05:21
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jensen's post.
Group: Chaos Magick (CMG)
God, Mother and26 December 2016 05:21
Margus Meigo commented on Achija Halliburton's post.
Group: Chaos Magick (CMG)
So the guy was tripping on 4 tabs of acid ?26 December 2016 05:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Porn is bad .. mmaky
(unless it is erosperry or something liek that )
(unless it is erosperry or something liek that )
26 December 2016 05:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yea, swallow that
" The US Department of Justice said that the attorneys either purchased the rights to or recorded their own smut scenes and then deliberately seeded them to download sites such as the Pirate Bay with the intent of having the movies downloaded.
After that, the legal eagles allegedly created a sham "hacking" case in which they recruited people who pretended to be some hackers who obtained and leaked the porno movies online. That allowed the Prenda team to convince a court to subpoena ISPs to get the identities of people who downloaded the files as part of the discovery process while prosecuting the stooge hackers.
From there, the DoJ says, Prenda used the information to contact netizens and, with the threat of lawsuits and public embarrassment, strong-arm them into paying out-of-court settlements for copyright infringement. The caper netted the gang around $6m between 2011 and 2014.
"The conduct of these defendants was outrageous – they used deceptive lawsuits and unsuspecting judges to extort millions from vulnerable defendants," said US attorney Andrew Luger on Friday.
"Our courts are halls of justice where fairness and the rule of law triumph, and my office will use every available resource to stop corrupt lawyers from abusing our system of justice."
This is not the first time Prenda Law and its attorneys have been hit with legal action for their shady copyright scheme. In 2013 the group was hit with six-figure damages bill for its action, and subsequent costs and penalties forced Hansmeier to sell off his assets last year. He was stripped of his license to practice law in Minnesota earlier this year.
Needless to say, this latest shot from the government could prove hard to swallow for Prenda's former ringleaders
" The US Department of Justice said that the attorneys either purchased the rights to or recorded their own smut scenes and then deliberately seeded them to download sites such as the Pirate Bay with the intent of having the movies downloaded.
After that, the legal eagles allegedly created a sham "hacking" case in which they recruited people who pretended to be some hackers who obtained and leaked the porno movies online. That allowed the Prenda team to convince a court to subpoena ISPs to get the identities of people who downloaded the files as part of the discovery process while prosecuting the stooge hackers.
From there, the DoJ says, Prenda used the information to contact netizens and, with the threat of lawsuits and public embarrassment, strong-arm them into paying out-of-court settlements for copyright infringement. The caper netted the gang around $6m between 2011 and 2014.
"The conduct of these defendants was outrageous – they used deceptive lawsuits and unsuspecting judges to extort millions from vulnerable defendants," said US attorney Andrew Luger on Friday.
"Our courts are halls of justice where fairness and the rule of law triumph, and my office will use every available resource to stop corrupt lawyers from abusing our system of justice."
This is not the first time Prenda Law and its attorneys have been hit with legal action for their shady copyright scheme. In 2013 the group was hit with six-figure damages bill for its action, and subsequent costs and penalties forced Hansmeier to sell off his assets last year. He was stripped of his license to practice law in Minnesota earlier this year.
Needless to say, this latest shot from the government could prove hard to swallow for Prenda's former ringleaders
26 December 2016 05:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Like seriouslly
" More than a dozen criminal charges have been filed against Prenda Law lawyers, who are accused of using porno movies to extort millions of dollars from victims.
Attorneys Paul Hansmeier and John Steele have each been charged in a US federal indictment with ten counts of wire fraud, five counts of mail fraud, and one count each of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and wire fraud, conspiracy to commit perjury and suborn perjury, and conspiracy to commit money laundering.
Handmeier, 35, of Minnesota, and Steele, 45, of Florida, were two of the lawyers behind the notorious Prenda Law firm, which dragged people through the courts for downloading and sharing grumble flicks online. The marks would be accused of infringing copyright and pressured into coughing up cash to make the lawsuits go away.
According to US prosecutors, Prenda Law was in fact an illegal shakedown operation that planted its own raunchy films on download sites with the aim of extorting money from people who viewed their X-rated movies.
" More than a dozen criminal charges have been filed against Prenda Law lawyers, who are accused of using porno movies to extort millions of dollars from victims.
Attorneys Paul Hansmeier and John Steele have each been charged in a US federal indictment with ten counts of wire fraud, five counts of mail fraud, and one count each of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and wire fraud, conspiracy to commit perjury and suborn perjury, and conspiracy to commit money laundering.
Handmeier, 35, of Minnesota, and Steele, 45, of Florida, were two of the lawyers behind the notorious Prenda Law firm, which dragged people through the courts for downloading and sharing grumble flicks online. The marks would be accused of infringing copyright and pressured into coughing up cash to make the lawsuits go away.
According to US prosecutors, Prenda Law was in fact an illegal shakedown operation that planted its own raunchy films on download sites with the aim of extorting money from people who viewed their X-rated movies.
26 December 2016 05:14
Margus Meigo commented on Matt Mcmindes's post.
26 December 2016 05:00
Margus Meigo commented on 10/10's photo.
There was times when people bring me computers like that in shop and ask the same:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1863607786667&set=a.1863491663764.2105367.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1863607786667&set=a.1863491663764.2105367.1135161043&type=3&theater
26 December 2016 04:59
Margus Meigo replied to Mark Ashley's comment.
26 December 2016 04:53
Margus Meigo replied to Mark Ashley's comment.
26 December 2016 04:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
strange to think that these was real ones,... and then was years to come where one of them was to much for a year... way to much
26 December 2016 04:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
(no really, it actually was)
26 December 2016 04:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
ZoneAlarm xD
26 December 2016 04:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
yea, this is the way to keep te stuff, way to go margus
26 December 2016 04:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this was my kiddy desktop and it newer got slow, ...
now days is enought to open up a browser in i5 with 4GB to get "window not responding" if klicking to fast
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1863649787717&set=a.1863491663764.2105367.1135161043&type=3&theater
now days is enought to open up a browser in i5 with 4GB to get "window not responding" if klicking to fast
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1863649787717&set=a.1863491663764.2105367.1135161043&type=3&theater
26 December 2016 04:34
Margus Meigo commented on 10/10's photo.
Did You try the MSN sexy singles jet,
26 December 2016 04:30
Margus Meigo commented on 10/10's photo.
Well, i can see there is something wrong with a PowerStrip newsFeed might be internet connection fault and have to chnage modem,
, and You to much in a future with 2020 search, this might slow down the megabytes in protcessor,
, and You to much in a future with 2020 search, this might slow down the megabytes in protcessor,
26 December 2016 04:29
Margus Meigo commented on Luciano Hernandez's post.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
Teabeamet (Information Board / Information Office, is actual oranisation in Estonia.. it is kind of like elite version of Ministry of Information in translation )26 December 2016 04:16
Margus Meigo replied to Adrian Braekke's comment.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
a bit random but
In Estonia, "Öö" means "night"26 December 2016 04:14
Margus Meigo replied to Yiang Xi's comment.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
Kind of nice, that MorphOS and Amiga just last Year was released again, still going
.
: )26 December 2016 04:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
just changing few words here and there and they think them get away with it26 December 2016 04:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: World Without Borders Interfaith Sufi Ashram
as CNN Money silicon Valley story..26 December 2016 03:58
Margus Meigo commented on John Ishvaradas Abdallah's post.
Group: World Without Borders Interfaith Sufi Ashram
What about some natural help ?26 December 2016 03:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
if you read, did u read rest of the post, then You know the irony of it all
before you cast a judgement
before you cast a judgement
26 December 2016 03:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
26 December 2016 03:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
How mad,
mad about what, still? how long
mad about what, still? how long
26 December 2016 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Are You
26 December 2016 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Everyone is looking for something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMFqkcPYcg&index=15&list=PLC90FB71F6ECE17F3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMFqkcPYcg&index=15&list=PLC90FB71F6ECE17F3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMFqkcPYcg&index=15&list=PLC90FB71F6ECE17F3
26 December 2016 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on Anatoliy Mikhaylov's post.
With love from Estonia
25 December 2016 22:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või see, kus mul sõb ei nohise aga heli sünkis paremini vast esimesel
25 December 2016 20:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
toped it up with a music
looked with a friend that them kind of fit together
looked with a friend that them kind of fit together
25 December 2016 20:08
Margus Meigo commented on Bernardo Winslord Singh Becerra's photo.
really good pic, looking like me in more mature and better shape
25 December 2016 19:24
Margus Meigo commented on Bernardo Winslord Singh Becerra's video.
Make sure the love and freedom will not become a hardwork
25 December 2016 19:21
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
so did they say what it was officialy?
25 December 2016 18:31
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
i guess some ingredients are off from the FDA list they use
25 December 2016 18:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jeffrey Allan Backowski II no, it is smaller matter for me than this what is we and how to get it right, in any kind of base world
25 December 2016 18:20
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
i see
25 December 2016 17:05
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
so usa blow it up to protect others?
25 December 2016 17:03
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
ooh, uwas under that?
25 December 2016 17:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Egas muidu tule meie õuele teenitud head kui me enda andeid ise Jumala heaks kasutama ei hakka suvatsema25 December 2016 06:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUSvyVfm3Bo&list=RDWgVHi3X-2QU&index=26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUSvyVfm3Bo&list=RDWgVHi3X-2QU&index=26
25 December 2016 05:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Daniel 7:8
"After this I kept looking in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrifying and extremely strong; and it had large iron teeth. It devoured and crushed and trampled down the remainder with its feet; and it was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns. 8"While I was contemplating the horns, behold, another horn, a little one, came up among them, and three of the first horns were pulled out by the roots before it; and behold, this horn possessed eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth uttering great boasts. 9"I kept looking Until thrones were set up, And the Ancient of Days took His seat; His vesture was like white snow And the hair of His head like pure wool. His throne was ablaze with flames, Its wheels were a burning fire.…
// White man with blond hair? as normans, liberals, Rus friends ?
http://biblehub.com/daniel/7-8.htm
23"Thus he said: 'The fourth beast will be a fourth kingdom on the earth, which will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth and tread it down and crush it. 24As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings will arise; and another will arise after them, and he will be different from the previous ones and will subdue three kings. 25'He will speak out against the Most High and wear down the saints of the Highest One, and he will intend to make alterations in times and in law; and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.…
18Now while he was talking with me, I sank into a deep sleep with my face to the ground; but he touched me and made me stand upright. 19He said, "Behold, I am going to let you know what will occur at the final period of the indignation, for it pertains to the appointed time of the end. 20"The ram which you saw with the two horns represents the kings of Media and Persia.…
7// jea, Media and Delfi is kind of .. trouble for a moment.. (softly wondering)
25"And through his shrewdness He will cause deceit to succeed by his influence; And he will magnify himself in his heart, And he will destroy many while they are at ease. He will even oppose the Prince of princes, But he will be broken without human agency. 26"The vision of the evenings and mornings Which has been told is true; But keep the vision secret, For it pertains to many days in the future." 27Then I, Daniel, was exhausted and sick for days. Then I got up again and carried on the king's business; but I was astounded at the vision, and there was none to explain it.…
//okey starts to get a bit booring and repetitive in here already:
25"So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; it will be built again, with plaza and moat, even in times of distress. 26"Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined. 27"And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate."…
// so the west thing, clears issue up a bit, the Roman school system etc.
The Tyranny of the Western King
…35"Some of those who have insight will fall, in order to refine, purge and make them pure until the end time; because it is still to come at the appointed time. 36"Then the king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will speak monstrous things against the God of gods; and he will prosper until the indignation is finished, for that which is decreed will be done. 37"He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all.…
// Yyo Vikings, u silly ..exchanging eye for wisdom ugh?
Zechariah 11:15 ►
15The LORD said to me, “Take again for yourself the equipment of a foolish shepherd. 16“For behold, I am going to raise up a shepherd in the land who will not care for the perishing, seek the scattered, heal the broken, or sustain the one standing, but will devour the flesh of the fat sheep and tear off their hoofs.
17“Woe to the worthless shepherd
Who leaves the flock!
A sword will be on his arm
And on his right eye!
His arm will be totally withered
And his right eye will be blind.”
"After this I kept looking in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrifying and extremely strong; and it had large iron teeth. It devoured and crushed and trampled down the remainder with its feet; and it was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns. 8"While I was contemplating the horns, behold, another horn, a little one, came up among them, and three of the first horns were pulled out by the roots before it; and behold, this horn possessed eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth uttering great boasts. 9"I kept looking Until thrones were set up, And the Ancient of Days took His seat; His vesture was like white snow And the hair of His head like pure wool. His throne was ablaze with flames, Its wheels were a burning fire.…
// White man with blond hair? as normans, liberals, Rus friends ?
http://biblehub.com/daniel/7-8.htm
23"Thus he said: 'The fourth beast will be a fourth kingdom on the earth, which will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth and tread it down and crush it. 24As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings will arise; and another will arise after them, and he will be different from the previous ones and will subdue three kings. 25'He will speak out against the Most High and wear down the saints of the Highest One, and he will intend to make alterations in times and in law; and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.…
18Now while he was talking with me, I sank into a deep sleep with my face to the ground; but he touched me and made me stand upright. 19He said, "Behold, I am going to let you know what will occur at the final period of the indignation, for it pertains to the appointed time of the end. 20"The ram which you saw with the two horns represents the kings of Media and Persia.…
7// jea, Media and Delfi is kind of .. trouble for a moment.. (softly wondering)
25"And through his shrewdness He will cause deceit to succeed by his influence; And he will magnify himself in his heart, And he will destroy many while they are at ease. He will even oppose the Prince of princes, But he will be broken without human agency. 26"The vision of the evenings and mornings Which has been told is true; But keep the vision secret, For it pertains to many days in the future." 27Then I, Daniel, was exhausted and sick for days. Then I got up again and carried on the king's business; but I was astounded at the vision, and there was none to explain it.…
//okey starts to get a bit booring and repetitive in here already:
25"So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there will be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; it will be built again, with plaza and moat, even in times of distress. 26"Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined. 27"And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate."…
// so the west thing, clears issue up a bit, the Roman school system etc.
The Tyranny of the Western King
…35"Some of those who have insight will fall, in order to refine, purge and make them pure until the end time; because it is still to come at the appointed time. 36"Then the king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will speak monstrous things against the God of gods; and he will prosper until the indignation is finished, for that which is decreed will be done. 37"He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all.…
// Yyo Vikings, u silly ..exchanging eye for wisdom ugh?
Zechariah 11:15 ►
15The LORD said to me, “Take again for yourself the equipment of a foolish shepherd. 16“For behold, I am going to raise up a shepherd in the land who will not care for the perishing, seek the scattered, heal the broken, or sustain the one standing, but will devour the flesh of the fat sheep and tear off their hoofs.
17“Woe to the worthless shepherd
Who leaves the flock!
A sword will be on his arm
And on his right eye!
His arm will be totally withered
And his right eye will be blind.”
25 December 2016 05:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Isaiah 14:12
@ How you have fallen from heaven,
O star of the morning, son of the dawn!
You have been cut down to the earth,
You who have weakened the nations!
“But you said in your heart,
‘I will ascend to heaven;
I will raise my throne above the stars of God,
And I will sit on the mount of assembly
In the recesses of the north.
____north, north, north____
//extra
14‘I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.’
15“Nevertheless you will be thrust down to Sheol,
To the recesses of the pit.
16“Those who see you will gaze at you,
They will ponder over you, saying,
‘Is this the man who made the earth tremble,
Who shook kingdoms,
17Who made the world like a wilderness
And overthrew its cities,
Who did not allow his prisoners to go home?’
18“All the kings of the nations lie in glory,
Each in his own tomb.
19“But you have been cast out of your tomb
Like a rejected branch,
Clothed with the slain who are pierced with a sword,
Who go down to the stones of the pit
Like a trampled corpse.
20“You will not be united with them in burial,
Because you have ruined your country,
You have slain your people.
May the offspring of evildoers not be mentioned forever.
21“Prepare for his sons a place of slaughter
Because of the iniquity of their fathers.
They must not arise and take possession of the earth
And fill the face of the world with cities.”
22“I will rise up against them,” declares the LORD of hosts, “and will cut off from Babylon name and survivors, offspring and posterity,” declares the LORD. 23“I will also make it a possession for the hedgehog and swamps of water, and I will sweep it with the broom of destruction,” declares the LORD of hosts.
Judgment on Assyria
24The LORD of hosts has sworn saying, “Surely, just as I have intended so it has happened, and just as I have planned so it will stand, 25to break Assyria in My land, and I will trample him on My mountains. Then his yoke will be removed from them and his burden removed from their shoulder. 26“This is the plan devised against the whole earth; and this is the hand that is stretched out against all the nations. 27“For the LORD of hosts has planned, and who can frustrate it? And as for His stretched-out hand, who can turn it back?”
28In the year that King Ahaz died this oracle came:
Judgment on Philistia
29“Do not rejoice, O Philistia, all of you,
Because the rod that struck you is broken;
For from the serpent’s root a viper will come out,
And its fruit will be a flying serpent.
30“Those who are most helpless will eat,
And the needy will lie down in security;
I will destroy your root with famine,
And it will kill off your survivors.
31“Wail, O gate; cry, O city;
Melt away, O Philistia, all of you;
For smoke comes from the north,
And there is no straggler in his ranks.
32“How then will one answer the messengers of the nation?
That the LORD has founded Zion,
And the afflicted of His people will seek refuge in it.”
http://biblehub.com/context/isaiah/14-12.htm
@ How you have fallen from heaven,
O star of the morning, son of the dawn!
You have been cut down to the earth,
You who have weakened the nations!
“But you said in your heart,
‘I will ascend to heaven;
I will raise my throne above the stars of God,
And I will sit on the mount of assembly
In the recesses of the north.
____north, north, north____
//extra
14‘I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.’
15“Nevertheless you will be thrust down to Sheol,
To the recesses of the pit.
16“Those who see you will gaze at you,
They will ponder over you, saying,
‘Is this the man who made the earth tremble,
Who shook kingdoms,
17Who made the world like a wilderness
And overthrew its cities,
Who did not allow his prisoners to go home?’
18“All the kings of the nations lie in glory,
Each in his own tomb.
19“But you have been cast out of your tomb
Like a rejected branch,
Clothed with the slain who are pierced with a sword,
Who go down to the stones of the pit
Like a trampled corpse.
20“You will not be united with them in burial,
Because you have ruined your country,
You have slain your people.
May the offspring of evildoers not be mentioned forever.
21“Prepare for his sons a place of slaughter
Because of the iniquity of their fathers.
They must not arise and take possession of the earth
And fill the face of the world with cities.”
22“I will rise up against them,” declares the LORD of hosts, “and will cut off from Babylon name and survivors, offspring and posterity,” declares the LORD. 23“I will also make it a possession for the hedgehog and swamps of water, and I will sweep it with the broom of destruction,” declares the LORD of hosts.
Judgment on Assyria
24The LORD of hosts has sworn saying, “Surely, just as I have intended so it has happened, and just as I have planned so it will stand, 25to break Assyria in My land, and I will trample him on My mountains. Then his yoke will be removed from them and his burden removed from their shoulder. 26“This is the plan devised against the whole earth; and this is the hand that is stretched out against all the nations. 27“For the LORD of hosts has planned, and who can frustrate it? And as for His stretched-out hand, who can turn it back?”
28In the year that King Ahaz died this oracle came:
Judgment on Philistia
29“Do not rejoice, O Philistia, all of you,
Because the rod that struck you is broken;
For from the serpent’s root a viper will come out,
And its fruit will be a flying serpent.
30“Those who are most helpless will eat,
And the needy will lie down in security;
I will destroy your root with famine,
And it will kill off your survivors.
31“Wail, O gate; cry, O city;
Melt away, O Philistia, all of you;
For smoke comes from the north,
And there is no straggler in his ranks.
32“How then will one answer the messengers of the nation?
That the LORD has founded Zion,
And the afflicted of His people will seek refuge in it.”
http://biblehub.com/context/isaiah/14-12.htm
http://biblehub.com/context/isaiah/14-12.htm
25 December 2016 05:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yea once more the humbleness *( 12 example:
"John 14:5-6
Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. "
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"
"John 14:5-6
Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. "
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"
25 December 2016 05:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
John 8:32
" And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
--
But well, will it matter on this " equality " communism idea as:
Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
// Well, really, no free, no female, You wanna turn as all in to satanic angels or something ? screw that
does not sound like God plan to me
so yea, seems Genesis 6:11,
9 11 situation
" And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
--
But well, will it matter on this " equality " communism idea as:
Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
// Well, really, no free, no female, You wanna turn as all in to satanic angels or something ? screw that
does not sound like God plan to me
so yea, seems Genesis 6:11,
9 11 situation
25 December 2016 05:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Jeesuse jüngrid
ja nii ka Jumal vast laulab läbi Kauksi25 December 2016 04:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Jeesuse jüngrid
muidugi tarkade olenditena just naised vahest meie lolluste pärasrt enim kannatavad, sest nad arvavad sisemises usus, et ju siis nii peab olema ,ja teenivad või ime(tle)vad keda iganes edasi, kes sunnib, kes lubas, et armastab või õpetas valetama, teesklema sest ega keegi sellist hullust ju ei teeks kui lubatud poleks.. ja ju siis nii peab olema, kui jumal maailma nii seadnud ja olla lubanud veel mõne aja, usub Naine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgVHi3X-2QU&list=RDWgVHi3X-2QUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgVHi3X-2QU&list=RDWgVHi3X-2QU
25 December 2016 04:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Jeesuse jüngrid
Kogu piibli tarkuse osakond on Naissoost piiblis, tarkusesõnad, proverbs 8:29.. .. (vaata ing(i). või heebria keeles, "She") et see "Wisdom" ise, ju isegi pervetiseeritud Greeka kultuuris oli Naissoost, rääkimata siis veel tarkadest kultuurilistest nähtustest ja Heebria maailmast, kes puht matriarhaatlik enne seda oli kui rooma homod täielikult üle võtsid25 December 2016 04:09
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Jeesuse jüngrid
Piiblis selgelt öeldud, et naised targemad, eriti kuna nad tagasihoidlikumad, targalt25 December 2016 04:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Jeesuse jüngrid
kuid me mehed, mis me teame naiste asjadest25 December 2016 03:39
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Jeesuse jüngrid
aga mis oli Lility patt võrreldes Adami omaga?25 December 2016 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Jeesuse jüngrid
Ja sellepärast, et adam selline robot oli, lillit käest ära läkski,
ja ega ta paha pärast ei maga ringi, vaid ikka oma naiivsusest ja naise loomuse pärast, kuna ta ei tundnud kurja, ega head, vaid lihtsalt oli, erinevalt Eevast25 December 2016 03:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Actual story is here:
http://parnu.postimees.ee/3432897/margus-meigo-kodutu-maailmaparandusminister
http://parnu.postimees.ee/3432897/margus-meigo-kodutu-maailmaparandusminister
http://parnu.postimees.ee/3432897/margus-meigo-kodutu-maailmaparandusminister
25 December 2016 03:29
Margus Meigo replied to Yeshua Ben David's comment.
but can be used, for more, at times.
25 December 2016 03:03
Margus Meigo replied to Yeshua Ben David's comment.
every tool and technology is for what it is for
25 December 2016 03:02
Margus Meigo replied to Yeshua Ben David's comment.
okey, what else kind of world You wish to apply time to ?
25 December 2016 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to Yeshua Ben David's comment.
I try to teach Crist to get some pussy, wonder did he pick up on that
God commandment
God commandment
25 December 2016 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to Yeshua Ben David's comment.
and to anyone who thinks, time is illusion, i recommend stop going to bathroom
25 December 2016 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to Yeshua Ben David's comment.
perhaps love is like time, infinite only if You go around...
25 December 2016 02:57
Margus Meigo replied to Yeshua Ben David's comment.
yes, but Crist was nor the love nor the time, so silly was someone, for not making sure, that humans know the plants God made for knowing time and love.
i not telling who it is
but i assume, we might have suspect
i not telling who it is
but i assume, we might have suspect
25 December 2016 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to Yeshua Ben David's comment.
Forgetting time, is beginning of forgetting Your loved ones who are still in time
25 December 2016 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to Yeshua Ben David's comment.
well, for Christ, but he kind of did not know, that there is more to comprehend
25 December 2016 02:50
Margus Meigo replied to Yeshua Ben David's comment.
women is not illusion, but what we know about her, might as well be
25 December 2016 02:47
Margus Meigo replied to Yeshua Ben David's comment.
Earth is not illusion, but it can be, for going to much in our out from ground, various way's
25 December 2016 02:47
Margus Meigo replied to Yeshua Ben David's comment.
for example, money is also not illusion, but it can be needed, can be used and can newer be used and there can be no difference , just usually is , in places where is
25 December 2016 02:46
Margus Meigo replied to Yeshua Ben David's comment.
for sure it is not illusion, as water is not illusion, but there is many way's to use it, many forms.. some can just look, some dive in... some breath in it and some skate on it.. but it is definitely real, just not mandatory (the time, ...about water, well, that might be mandatory for Carbon ones, even others like it i assume)
25 December 2016 02:44
Margus Meigo replied to Yeshua Ben David's comment.
suspected so, the Nut's part, for whole of this new time keeping time specially
25 December 2016 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
well, being pig my self, i can relate to this
25 December 2016 02:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"and there he is, the Hereo Pig"
25 December 2016 02:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ahaha,minut 7, kassipojad nagu "ooo nooo ema toob meile selle sööögiks v"
https://youtu.be/ya2cpmn9-AM?t=420
https://youtu.be/ya2cpmn9-AM?t=420
25 December 2016 02:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aww look at these tripping eyes on 0:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auNgXnrwA-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auNgXnrwA-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auNgXnrwA-E
25 December 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kittin's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEBPmxXk7yU
urrh, pisses me of when videos do not enable to save the, to cover tracks of "unEnable unNeeded videos" agenda and just programmer laziness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEBPmxXk7yU
urrh, pisses me of when videos do not enable to save the, to cover tracks of "unEnable unNeeded videos" agenda and just programmer laziness
25 December 2016 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The fishing cat (Prionailurus viverrinus) is a medium-sized wild cat of South and Southeast Asia. Since 2016, it is listed as Vulnerable on the IUCN Red List. Fishing cat populations are threatened by destruction of wetlands and declined severely over the last decade. Fishing cats live foremost in the vicinity of wetlands, along rivers, streams, oxbow lakes, in swamps and mangroves.
The fishing cat is the state animal of West Bengal.
Fishing cats are thought to be primarily nocturnal. Adult males and females without dependent young are solitary animals. They are very much at home in the water and can swim long distances, even under water. Females have been reported to range over areas of 4 to 6 km2 (1.5 to 2.3 sq mi), while males range over 16 to 22 km2 (6.2 to 8.5 sq mi). Adults have been observed to make a "chuckling" sound
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing_cat
The fishing cat is the state animal of West Bengal.
Fishing cats are thought to be primarily nocturnal. Adult males and females without dependent young are solitary animals. They are very much at home in the water and can swim long distances, even under water. Females have been reported to range over areas of 4 to 6 km2 (1.5 to 2.3 sq mi), while males range over 16 to 22 km2 (6.2 to 8.5 sq mi). Adults have been observed to make a "chuckling" sound
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing_cat
25 December 2016 01:59
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kes siis liha ainult sööb (kuid poe kassi kallid konservid ja toidud tal pooleni kuid kalasi ragistab lausa kilodes, imestan isegi kuhu mahuvad)
25 December 2016 01:48
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
aegajalt annan talle ikka sibulaga praetud tatart ka
25 December 2016 01:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tehtud !
Kristina tehtud
Kristina tehtud
25 December 2016 01:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
25 December 2016 01:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
25 December 2016 01:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
okey maybe i am not most sensitive person to ask questions like that, on 24.th to 25,
but then again, it is relevant, have been bothered this question long years me,
even after meeting (and no, it was not some lame Me looking hippie, was kind of being You know who suck electricity's or life from everything that is around but instead he kind of sucked all the power from surrounding, worlds, was pretty awesome still, compared to God fellow who really did look like One of the white bearded characters from this book: )
https://youtu.be/sLTv3G_bhro?t=397 (from min 6:37)
but then again, it is relevant, have been bothered this question long years me,
even after meeting (and no, it was not some lame Me looking hippie, was kind of being You know who suck electricity's or life from everything that is around but instead he kind of sucked all the power from surrounding, worlds, was pretty awesome still, compared to God fellow who really did look like One of the white bearded characters from this book: )
https://youtu.be/sLTv3G_bhro?t=397 (from min 6:37)
https://youtu.be/sLTv3G_bhro?t=397
25 December 2016 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
.:.
The Former Minister of Defense from Canada, Paul Hellyer speaks about the ET Disclosure in Washington DC at the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure in May 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNjKM94w0hg
There is list of videos, that FB chooses not to "enable" to make playable" this is one of them, some other You can get playable after 3-4 tries
The Former Minister of Defense from Canada, Paul Hellyer speaks about the ET Disclosure in Washington DC at the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure in May 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNjKM94w0hg
There is list of videos, that FB chooses not to "enable" to make playable" this is one of them, some other You can get playable after 3-4 tries
25 December 2016 00:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
and then "they" post that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpMfBeHtV3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpMfBeHtV3c
24 December 2016 23:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
24 December 2016 22:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
24 December 2016 22:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEg_Oys4NkA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEg_Oys4NkA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEg_Oys4NkA
24 December 2016 22:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"We understand the beginnings of Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, and modern cults. We can envision how such faiths started. But how do we explain Judaism’s genesis? What rational, natural explanation describes the events leading to the only claim of mass revelation in four thousand years of recorded human history? The proposition that God indeed spoke to the Jewish nation seems at least as probable as the alternatives.
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/proof-torah-true/
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/proof-torah-true/
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/proof-torah-true/
24 December 2016 22:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ariste, Paul 1969. Vadja rahvakalender.
Eisen M. J. 1926. Eesti Mütoloogia IV. Eesti vana usk.
Hiiemäe, Mall 2006. Päiv ei ole päiväle veli. Lõuna-Eesti kalendripärimust.
Kaasik, Ahto. Kõneta kuud maakeeles. Loodusesõber nr 1, lk 24 - 26.
Kaasik, Ahto 2010. Seitsmel Euroopa riigil omakeelsed kuunimed. Loodusesõber nr 1 lk 28 - 29.
Kaasik, Mana 2015. Maavalla kalender 10229 (2016).
Lätt, Selma 1970. Eesti rahvakalender I.
Saareste, Andrus 1959. Eesti keele mõisteline sõnaraamat II.
Vilkuna, Kustaa 2007. Vuotuinen ajantieto.
Kuva:
Koumardi hiis Mahu (Viru-Nigula) kihelkonnas
Eisen M. J. 1926. Eesti Mütoloogia IV. Eesti vana usk.
Hiiemäe, Mall 2006. Päiv ei ole päiväle veli. Lõuna-Eesti kalendripärimust.
Kaasik, Ahto. Kõneta kuud maakeeles. Loodusesõber nr 1, lk 24 - 26.
Kaasik, Ahto 2010. Seitsmel Euroopa riigil omakeelsed kuunimed. Loodusesõber nr 1 lk 28 - 29.
Kaasik, Mana 2015. Maavalla kalender 10229 (2016).
Lätt, Selma 1970. Eesti rahvakalender I.
Saareste, Andrus 1959. Eesti keele mõisteline sõnaraamat II.
Vilkuna, Kustaa 2007. Vuotuinen ajantieto.
Kuva:
Koumardi hiis Mahu (Viru-Nigula) kihelkonnas
24 December 2016 21:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
05.01.10229 (2016) Sydakuu on talve syda
Koumardi iis
Koumardi iisAasta esimene kuu kannab maakeeles mitmeid nimi: sydakuu, vahtseaastakuu, vahtse ajastaja kuu, vahtsõaesta kuu, helmekuu, helmkuu, surmakuu, hundikuu, talvekuu ja talvestekuu.
Maakeelsed kuu nimed seostuvad eelkõige uue ehk vastse aastaga, helmekuu härma ning jäänõeltega, hundikuu sute jooksuajaga, surmakuu aga rohkete surmadega. Sydakuu tähendab talve sydant ehk kesktalve.
Sydakuu nimetusi teistel rahvastel
Jaanuari (vadja maakeeles janvari) nimi pärineb Vana-Rooma kalendrist. Aasta yheteistkymnes kuu oli seal pyhendatud jumal Janusele - väravate, uste, alguste ja lõppude jumalale. Kuu teine tuntum laenunimi – näärikuu (ka niijarikuu, nearikuu ja nääripäevakuu) - on aga skandinaavia päritolu (rootsi nyår).
Rootsi (rahvalik) tormånad – thori kuu, Poola styczeñ – aastavahetuse kuu, Leedu sausas – kuivakuu, kuiv (lumi), Horvaatia siječanj – raiumiskuu (tõenäoliselt), Ukraina ciчень – puude langetamise, metsateo kuu.
Hõimurahvastel: Komi töv ör – kesktalv, kylm, Ersa jakshamkov – jahe-/kylmakuu, Mari šorõkjol – aastavahetus- ja jõulukuu. Soome keeli on kuu nimi tammikuu, ka sydänkuu. Tammi tähendab selles seoses talve keskpaika ehk sydant.
Sydakuu pyhad
b_250_250_16777215_00_images_sydakuu29.jpg
Sydakuu näitab tähelepanelikule vaatlejale ilma valgenemise märke. Siin-seal võib kuulda ka tihaste arglikke kevadhyydeid. Iga päev on eelmisest kukesammu võrra pikem ja viib kevade poole.
Kuu esimene pool möödub veel jõulude vaimus. 17.01. olevat taliharjapäeva on muuseas nimetatud ka pyhade lõppu tähistavaks jõuluemapäevaks.
14.01. Korjusepäeval pöörab karu kylge ja hakkab teist käppa imema. Soomes ja Karjalas on see päev peamine talve poolitaja. Meil võivad lapsed korjusepäevast alates toas paljajalu joosta. Korr (musträhn) hakkab vastu puuoksi põristama, see olla esimene kevade märk. Korjusepäev on yks aastat neljaks jaotavaid tähtpäevi ning kuulub kokku kynipäeva (14.04.), karusepäeva (13.07.) ja kolletamispäevaga (14.10.).
Korjusepäevast pikemalt
17.01. Taliharjapäeval syndivat esimene hylgepoeg merre ja putukatele tulevat hing sisse. See on Tõnni vaka ehk koduhaldja pyha. Keedetakse pool seapead või seajalgu ja oa- või hernesuppi. Enne söömist viiakse esimene osa toidust annipaika. Kui taliharjapäeval paistab niigi palju päikest, et mees jõuab hobuse selga hypata, ennustab see ilusat suve ja head viljasaaki. Samuti on siis mehed eeoleval aastal terved ja selge peaga.
Taliharjapäevast pikemalt
Kuu taevas
Kahaneva kuu pehme aeg ehk kolmas veerand 1.01. - 2.01.
Vana kuu kõva aeg 2.01. – 8.01. (4. veerandi algus 8.01. kl 7.30)
Kadukuu pehme aeg 8.01. – 12.01. (kuu loomise hetk 10.01. kl 3.30)
Noore kuu kõva aeg 12.01. - 17.01. (esimene veerand)
Kasvava kuu pehme aeg 17.01. - 22.02. (teise veerandi algus 17.01. kl 1.26)
Täie kuu kõva aeg 22.01. – 26.01. (täiskuu hetk 24.01. kl 3.46)
Kahaneva kuu pehme aeg ehk kolmas veerand 26.01. - 1.02.
Päris kaduneljapäeva (kaduaja neljapäev enne kuu loomist) sydakuus ei ole. Nõrgem kaduneljapäev on 5.01. (neljanda veerandi neljas päev ning 7.01. (neljanda veerandi neljapäev).
Kaduneljapäev on hea aeg toimetusteks, mis peavad kaotama soovimatuid asju nagu haigused, kahjurid, ning kõikvõimalikud kahjulikud nähtused, mõjud ning sidemed.
Kõval ehk kalgil ajal, samuti kasvava või täiskuuga tehtud asjad on kõvad ning jäävad pysima. Lammast niita sobib hästi täiskuul, sest siis kasvab tal tihe kasukas. Edendavateks ettevõtmisteks sobivad ka paaris nädalapäevad: teisipäev, neljapäev ja laupäev.
Pehmel ehk mädal ajal, samuti kahaneva kuuga on hea ette võtta asju, mille eesmärk on millegi hävitamine, vähendamine või kaotamine. Näiteks peaks hambatõmbamine olema sel ajal kerge. Samas võib haav jääda veritsema ja kergesti halvaks minna.
Rahvatarkust
Sydakuud loetakse aasta yheks kõige kõvemaks ajaks. Kõval ajal tehtud või alustatud asjad jäävad pysima, ei rikne ega lagune kergesti. Pehmel ajal tehtu laguneb, rikneb ja kaob kiiresti.
Näärikuus toodud tarbipuud olid keige vissemad ning kevamad, pidan kaua vastu. Karja
Sydakuu noorekuu kuivaga - yits nätäl peräst loomist - raotu palgi ei lahkeva. Otepää
Kui näärikuu puudel okkaid pudeneb, siis on varane kevade. Ambla
Kui sydakuul mõts iluste ärmän om, sis olevat ää villä äitsmine. Kambja
Kui sydakuus puud ärmendavad, siis saab augustikuus kala. Mil kuul ärmendab, siis selle kuuga vastamesi saab kala. Kuusalu
Mis kylmem sydakuu, seda soem suvi. Jõhvi
On sydakuus sygav lumi, kasvab paks vili. Mustjala
Mis sydakuu tegemata jätab, seda teeb radokuu ära. See tähendab, et kui sydakuu soe on, siis on radokuu kylm. Laiuse
Koumardi iis
Koumardi iisAasta esimene kuu kannab maakeeles mitmeid nimi: sydakuu, vahtseaastakuu, vahtse ajastaja kuu, vahtsõaesta kuu, helmekuu, helmkuu, surmakuu, hundikuu, talvekuu ja talvestekuu.
Maakeelsed kuu nimed seostuvad eelkõige uue ehk vastse aastaga, helmekuu härma ning jäänõeltega, hundikuu sute jooksuajaga, surmakuu aga rohkete surmadega. Sydakuu tähendab talve sydant ehk kesktalve.
Sydakuu nimetusi teistel rahvastel
Jaanuari (vadja maakeeles janvari) nimi pärineb Vana-Rooma kalendrist. Aasta yheteistkymnes kuu oli seal pyhendatud jumal Janusele - väravate, uste, alguste ja lõppude jumalale. Kuu teine tuntum laenunimi – näärikuu (ka niijarikuu, nearikuu ja nääripäevakuu) - on aga skandinaavia päritolu (rootsi nyår).
Rootsi (rahvalik) tormånad – thori kuu, Poola styczeñ – aastavahetuse kuu, Leedu sausas – kuivakuu, kuiv (lumi), Horvaatia siječanj – raiumiskuu (tõenäoliselt), Ukraina ciчень – puude langetamise, metsateo kuu.
Hõimurahvastel: Komi töv ör – kesktalv, kylm, Ersa jakshamkov – jahe-/kylmakuu, Mari šorõkjol – aastavahetus- ja jõulukuu. Soome keeli on kuu nimi tammikuu, ka sydänkuu. Tammi tähendab selles seoses talve keskpaika ehk sydant.
Sydakuu pyhad
b_250_250_16777215_00_images_sydakuu29.jpg
Sydakuu näitab tähelepanelikule vaatlejale ilma valgenemise märke. Siin-seal võib kuulda ka tihaste arglikke kevadhyydeid. Iga päev on eelmisest kukesammu võrra pikem ja viib kevade poole.
Kuu esimene pool möödub veel jõulude vaimus. 17.01. olevat taliharjapäeva on muuseas nimetatud ka pyhade lõppu tähistavaks jõuluemapäevaks.
14.01. Korjusepäeval pöörab karu kylge ja hakkab teist käppa imema. Soomes ja Karjalas on see päev peamine talve poolitaja. Meil võivad lapsed korjusepäevast alates toas paljajalu joosta. Korr (musträhn) hakkab vastu puuoksi põristama, see olla esimene kevade märk. Korjusepäev on yks aastat neljaks jaotavaid tähtpäevi ning kuulub kokku kynipäeva (14.04.), karusepäeva (13.07.) ja kolletamispäevaga (14.10.).
Korjusepäevast pikemalt
17.01. Taliharjapäeval syndivat esimene hylgepoeg merre ja putukatele tulevat hing sisse. See on Tõnni vaka ehk koduhaldja pyha. Keedetakse pool seapead või seajalgu ja oa- või hernesuppi. Enne söömist viiakse esimene osa toidust annipaika. Kui taliharjapäeval paistab niigi palju päikest, et mees jõuab hobuse selga hypata, ennustab see ilusat suve ja head viljasaaki. Samuti on siis mehed eeoleval aastal terved ja selge peaga.
Taliharjapäevast pikemalt
Kuu taevas
Kahaneva kuu pehme aeg ehk kolmas veerand 1.01. - 2.01.
Vana kuu kõva aeg 2.01. – 8.01. (4. veerandi algus 8.01. kl 7.30)
Kadukuu pehme aeg 8.01. – 12.01. (kuu loomise hetk 10.01. kl 3.30)
Noore kuu kõva aeg 12.01. - 17.01. (esimene veerand)
Kasvava kuu pehme aeg 17.01. - 22.02. (teise veerandi algus 17.01. kl 1.26)
Täie kuu kõva aeg 22.01. – 26.01. (täiskuu hetk 24.01. kl 3.46)
Kahaneva kuu pehme aeg ehk kolmas veerand 26.01. - 1.02.
Päris kaduneljapäeva (kaduaja neljapäev enne kuu loomist) sydakuus ei ole. Nõrgem kaduneljapäev on 5.01. (neljanda veerandi neljas päev ning 7.01. (neljanda veerandi neljapäev).
Kaduneljapäev on hea aeg toimetusteks, mis peavad kaotama soovimatuid asju nagu haigused, kahjurid, ning kõikvõimalikud kahjulikud nähtused, mõjud ning sidemed.
Kõval ehk kalgil ajal, samuti kasvava või täiskuuga tehtud asjad on kõvad ning jäävad pysima. Lammast niita sobib hästi täiskuul, sest siis kasvab tal tihe kasukas. Edendavateks ettevõtmisteks sobivad ka paaris nädalapäevad: teisipäev, neljapäev ja laupäev.
Pehmel ehk mädal ajal, samuti kahaneva kuuga on hea ette võtta asju, mille eesmärk on millegi hävitamine, vähendamine või kaotamine. Näiteks peaks hambatõmbamine olema sel ajal kerge. Samas võib haav jääda veritsema ja kergesti halvaks minna.
Rahvatarkust
Sydakuud loetakse aasta yheks kõige kõvemaks ajaks. Kõval ajal tehtud või alustatud asjad jäävad pysima, ei rikne ega lagune kergesti. Pehmel ajal tehtu laguneb, rikneb ja kaob kiiresti.
Näärikuus toodud tarbipuud olid keige vissemad ning kevamad, pidan kaua vastu. Karja
Sydakuu noorekuu kuivaga - yits nätäl peräst loomist - raotu palgi ei lahkeva. Otepää
Kui näärikuu puudel okkaid pudeneb, siis on varane kevade. Ambla
Kui sydakuul mõts iluste ärmän om, sis olevat ää villä äitsmine. Kambja
Kui sydakuus puud ärmendavad, siis saab augustikuus kala. Mil kuul ärmendab, siis selle kuuga vastamesi saab kala. Kuusalu
Mis kylmem sydakuu, seda soem suvi. Jõhvi
On sydakuus sygav lumi, kasvab paks vili. Mustjala
Mis sydakuu tegemata jätab, seda teeb radokuu ära. See tähendab, et kui sydakuu soe on, siis on radokuu kylm. Laiuse
24 December 2016 21:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
ja see läheb juba liiga kaugele, kuid üks teise koolkonna rabbi ka,
ja see läheb juba liiga kaugele, kuid üks teise koolkonna rabbi ka, kui oled ja soovid PÄRIS jumalausku inimeste selgitusi kuulda,
(et kuidas religioosed inimesed ei ole parimad Jumalaasjades ega suhetes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKBeuiXQf3E24 December 2016 20:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Ja 36. ndast minutist see siin, lugu mida ta ka ühele rikkamale Holliwoodi inimesele rääkis kui see teda kohtingule kutsus
(Spoiler: räägib ka kuidas mitte ühele mehele jumal ei andnud käskusi vaid kuidas u 3 millioni inimesega samal ajal Jumal rääkis)
https://youtu.be/vPmmOU9K_ac?t=2183https://youtu.be/vPmmOU9K_ac?t=2183
24 December 2016 20:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
.:. Video mis teemaga seoses Ülesse sai laetud
(Räägib kuidas Jumala laste kummardamise asemel, Jumalat teenima peaksime, ehk siis kristluse suurimast murekivist)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58nnmUe0fwI24 December 2016 20:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
.:.
https://www.facebook.com/itzhak.yehoshua.924 December 2016 20:25
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
orga(-ni-)sm
just noticed
just noticed
23 December 2016 03:55
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
You did
23 December 2016 03:54
Margus Meigo replied to Richard Dille's comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
but reason for richest?23 December 2016 03:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdMskehds9w
http://www.wilhelmreichtrust.org/children_of_the_future.html
Books: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=wilhelm+reich+pdf&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
http://www.whale.to/a/cantwell.html
http://www.wilhelmreichtrust.org/children_of_the_future.html
Books: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=wilhelm+reich+pdf&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
http://www.whale.to/a/cantwell.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdMskehds9w
23 December 2016 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"..When Wilhelm Reich ordered his work be locked away until 50 years after his death, he must have known someone would rebuild ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_jC9fB53aE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_jC9fB53aE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_jC9fB53aE
23 December 2016 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
well, docs are as they are but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G53HYqOhkAE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G53HYqOhkAE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G53HYqOhkAE
23 December 2016 02:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
" Reich's daughter Eva (1924–2008) appears on camera, speaking about the high accuracy of her father's work and the sickness of contemporary life.
The Orgonon, Reich's last home and lab near Rangeley, Maine, USA, is seen with brief shots of the interior and exterior, including a cloudbuster.
A couple of scenes in the film are re-stagings of scenes from Sergei Eisenstein films, to allude to a moment of more pure (truthful) film making in the Soviet Union.
Shots of the incinerator in which Reich's books were burned in New York City are included.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pllRW9wETzw
The Orgonon, Reich's last home and lab near Rangeley, Maine, USA, is seen with brief shots of the interior and exterior, including a cloudbuster.
A couple of scenes in the film are re-stagings of scenes from Sergei Eisenstein films, to allude to a moment of more pure (truthful) film making in the Soviet Union.
Shots of the incinerator in which Reich's books were burned in New York City are included.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pllRW9wETzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pllRW9wETzw
23 December 2016 02:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"..The film intercuts documentary footage and clips from other films — notably the Stalinist propaganda film The Vow (1946) — with an imaginative and satirical narrative about a highly political Yugoslav woman who seduces a visiting Soviet celebrity ice skater. Despite different settings, characters and time periods, the different elements produce a single story of human sexuality and revolution through a montage effect.
The woman, Milena, violates her proletariat convictions (and rejects the sexual advances of a worker) by pursuing a Joseph Stalin-like celebrity ice skater — Vladimir Ilyich (Lenin's first and middle names) — who represents both class oppression and corruption from the West into communist beliefs. She succeeds, with difficulty, in sexual consummation, but V.I. is unable to reconcile his inner conflicts and ends the encounter by ..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W.R.:_Mysteries_of_the_Organism
The woman, Milena, violates her proletariat convictions (and rejects the sexual advances of a worker) by pursuing a Joseph Stalin-like celebrity ice skater — Vladimir Ilyich (Lenin's first and middle names) — who represents both class oppression and corruption from the West into communist beliefs. She succeeds, with difficulty, in sexual consummation, but V.I. is unable to reconcile his inner conflicts and ends the encounter by ..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W.R.:_Mysteries_of_the_Organism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W.R.:_Mysteries_of_the_Organism
23 December 2016 02:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
When people make freely film, it is called ..
23 December 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
When people freely make normal film then it is called "outrageous"
23 December 2016 01:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"WR is not exactly a full-blown "perfect film". It is, without a doubt, one of the most in-your-face forms of personal, artistic and political expression put out in the period. Only Godard can be compared for something as demanding and daring as W.R., but even then there could be compromises due to his penchant for drawing out the facet of the cinematic essay. Writer/director Dusan Makavejev goes fearlessly into making a hybrid of documentary and fiction, where one sees a truly raw form take place in how he places his camera on subjects and on locales, and an attitude of recklessness in how he edits together the fictional segments (a free-love inspired communist Yugoslavian meets a more uptight male ice skater and fall somewhat in a kind of love surrounded by semantics) with archival footage and the documentary.
It's this same reckless quality and adherence only to throw out any typical narrative that makes W.R such a crazy milestone in the avant-garde (which, by the way, Makavejev says is only relative to other films). He could have just made a serious work about the writer/sex therapist Wilhelm Reich, or a romantic drama about two differing sides of the personifications of communist ideas played out, but he's discontent with making either or and does both, and more. It's a film of its time, but not trapped in it.
One of the best things that also comes out right away from W.R. is that it is, in the tradition of another cinematic anarchist like Godard, a full-blown satire. This is essential because without this spirit of mocking and criticizing the very things that Makavejev is praising (i.e. Leninist and Stalinist propaganda footage is inter-cut with footage from what must be committed folk at an asylum getting electroshock and knocking heads against the wall), the film would very quickly become preachy and didactic, and might have actually been more-so accepted by the Yugoslav censors.
It's the very act of humor about it all, of having sex as if in a kaleidoscope put to dry narration, or the crazy bearded guy with a helmet carrying around a gun and sometimes giving it a 'good time, or how some weird drunken neighbor literally crashes through the wall of the communist girl's apartment while he and the ice skater talk politics and her (very naked) friend does leg exercises, that makes it on the surface seem so outrageous.
And believe-you-me, it didn't get the "Luis Bunuel award" at Cannes for nothing! Going between a gay guy telling about his prime sexual experiences to seeing women and men in the throws of Reich's 'method' of releasing pent up tensions (this may be the only repetitive portion of the film, not s shocking to anyone who's seen any given episode of HBO's Real Sex, albeit for the period it's quite absorbing), and then back to Reich's theories that were crushed and burned as he died in a prison, and then back again to the Yugoslav 'love' story that ends with a few image that Jodorowsky might wince at.
And as this is all going on, Makavejev doesn't let the audience stop thinking, either. Behind a sequence like when Milena riles up the men in the building complex to have a free and healthy attitude towards communism is some truth, contained within what is obviously a parody of communist propaganda films are points that the viewer has to take into account, or at least to fill in some blanks as the film goes forward.
The lack of structure then, in a sense, is structured as such, and it becomes an act of participation to guess what might come next, of what might be either informative- like the history of Reich as writer and controversial figure, almost by bad luck, or about the delirious technique of the 'box' used by Reich on his patients- or entertaining, in ways that only a provocateur can handle. Now, take this as a fact, know what you're getting into before you seek out the Criterion DVD. It's quite a graphic film in terms of showing full on sex, aroused genitalia, and sometimes not in always the playful manner intended. But it's not simply that to look out for, though even by today's standards it's a bit surprising.
What makes W.R. such a unique and warped bird of art is how it challenges the viewer, provokes fully if not discussion then some kind of collision of intellectual and visceral reaction for those who at least meet the filmmaker halfway. Once in a while frustrating, but never ever boring, W.R. is a cinematic shock from a go-for-broke iconocla
It's this same reckless quality and adherence only to throw out any typical narrative that makes W.R such a crazy milestone in the avant-garde (which, by the way, Makavejev says is only relative to other films). He could have just made a serious work about the writer/sex therapist Wilhelm Reich, or a romantic drama about two differing sides of the personifications of communist ideas played out, but he's discontent with making either or and does both, and more. It's a film of its time, but not trapped in it.
One of the best things that also comes out right away from W.R. is that it is, in the tradition of another cinematic anarchist like Godard, a full-blown satire. This is essential because without this spirit of mocking and criticizing the very things that Makavejev is praising (i.e. Leninist and Stalinist propaganda footage is inter-cut with footage from what must be committed folk at an asylum getting electroshock and knocking heads against the wall), the film would very quickly become preachy and didactic, and might have actually been more-so accepted by the Yugoslav censors.
It's the very act of humor about it all, of having sex as if in a kaleidoscope put to dry narration, or the crazy bearded guy with a helmet carrying around a gun and sometimes giving it a 'good time, or how some weird drunken neighbor literally crashes through the wall of the communist girl's apartment while he and the ice skater talk politics and her (very naked) friend does leg exercises, that makes it on the surface seem so outrageous.
And believe-you-me, it didn't get the "Luis Bunuel award" at Cannes for nothing! Going between a gay guy telling about his prime sexual experiences to seeing women and men in the throws of Reich's 'method' of releasing pent up tensions (this may be the only repetitive portion of the film, not s shocking to anyone who's seen any given episode of HBO's Real Sex, albeit for the period it's quite absorbing), and then back to Reich's theories that were crushed and burned as he died in a prison, and then back again to the Yugoslav 'love' story that ends with a few image that Jodorowsky might wince at.
And as this is all going on, Makavejev doesn't let the audience stop thinking, either. Behind a sequence like when Milena riles up the men in the building complex to have a free and healthy attitude towards communism is some truth, contained within what is obviously a parody of communist propaganda films are points that the viewer has to take into account, or at least to fill in some blanks as the film goes forward.
The lack of structure then, in a sense, is structured as such, and it becomes an act of participation to guess what might come next, of what might be either informative- like the history of Reich as writer and controversial figure, almost by bad luck, or about the delirious technique of the 'box' used by Reich on his patients- or entertaining, in ways that only a provocateur can handle. Now, take this as a fact, know what you're getting into before you seek out the Criterion DVD. It's quite a graphic film in terms of showing full on sex, aroused genitalia, and sometimes not in always the playful manner intended. But it's not simply that to look out for, though even by today's standards it's a bit surprising.
What makes W.R. such a unique and warped bird of art is how it challenges the viewer, provokes fully if not discussion then some kind of collision of intellectual and visceral reaction for those who at least meet the filmmaker halfway. Once in a while frustrating, but never ever boring, W.R. is a cinematic shock from a go-for-broke iconocla
23 December 2016 01:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
IMDB_
"I saw this originally at a showing at the British Film Institute years ago and it blew my mind. Every film student should see it. A subversive mix of politics and sex, it shows just how boring and middle class Monty Python, the Farrelly Brothers, et al really are. A non sequitur to the 9th degree, it shows the power that cinema can have on an audience. Considering the age of this film, it is incredible how outrageous it is. Once you've seen it, you will never forget it. It is truly a land mark film in the realm of the surreal. A must viewing for everyone."
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067958/reviews?ref_=tt_urv
"I saw this originally at a showing at the British Film Institute years ago and it blew my mind. Every film student should see it. A subversive mix of politics and sex, it shows just how boring and middle class Monty Python, the Farrelly Brothers, et al really are. A non sequitur to the 9th degree, it shows the power that cinema can have on an audience. Considering the age of this film, it is incredible how outrageous it is. Once you've seen it, you will never forget it. It is truly a land mark film in the realm of the surreal. A must viewing for everyone."
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067958/reviews?ref_=tt_urv
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067958/reviews?ref_=tt_urv
23 December 2016 01:54
Margus Meigo commented on Tenzin Shares's post.
We all do was wanting to say,
But, these aliens do who own electriCity
But, these aliens do who own electriCity
22 December 2016 23:30
Margus Meigo commented on Mehal Rockefeller's post.
But it have to be right kind of sex magic, dark rape or gay sex will not do
22 December 2016 23:12
Margus Meigo commented on Kim Marcussen's post.
My family have hold hands of some
f Sounds of Aliens
f Sounds of Aliens
22 December 2016 23:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja rahuldust
22 December 2016 23:08
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Sepp's post.
Rahu ainult rahu
22 December 2016 23:08
Margus Meigo commented on Cameron Schatz's post.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
my self as bully22 December 2016 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on Bossu Manu's post.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
EVIDENCE for god?
Man...i guess you newer tripped proper22 December 2016 03:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
for kids: listen parents
for grandparents, see if children are grown up well22 December 2016 03:22
Margus Meigo commented on Paulina Luz's post.
Group: Psychedelics & Philosophy
For man: help a women
for women: grow up mans
for God22 December 2016 03:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
well, at least he got a beard,
21 December 2016 21:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Don Phillips worked at the famous Lockheed Skunk Works as a design engineer before joining the US Air Force. Phillips worked with Kelly Johnson on the U2 and SR-71 Blackbird. "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuq5klN_R-s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuq5klN_R-s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuq5klN_R-s
21 December 2016 21:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Another from their company:
" Boyd Bushman, a Senior Scientist at LOCKHEED MARTIN who speaks of first hand experience with Alien life forms and the UFO cover up at Area 51.
Speaking for the first time publicly with Photo's about his experience dealing with extraterrestrials, their craft and the Governments extraterrestrial cover up before his death. Boyd Bushman spoke with independent aerospace engineer Mark Q. Patterson shortly before his death last August 2014 and made some surprising and highly questionable claims about real aliens working at Area 51, faster than light travel and work on anti-gravity technology. "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd_ZXgObNNg
And opponents:
" Another lie and fantasy from Bushman.He says Robert Oppenheimer worked in Area51 until the Aliens kicked him off the facility.He worked there in 1970 to 1980.I say Bull shit .Because Oppenheimer died in 1964 Feb 18th.Again you see the Deception Bullshit fantasy scientist at work again.Spreading lies and crap.I think also i have seen him talking about Albert Einstein also seen these fucking grey Aliens in Area51 in 1970.Again Einstein died in 1955.And Area51 was built in 1953 ha ha ha.What a silly old fart Bushman remains.The man got Dementia early."
and another dimension of opponents:
" All Real Extra-Terrestrials have perfect clairvoyance, you could not catch them nor shoot them down. They do not crash their craft. As they are ALL millions of years our senior they do not cooperate with Earth military dark projects. They are not allowed to let us have hardware from their own science. These small individuals are most definitely from Earth's lower astral realms. Even though some of them appear friendly they do pretend to be 'Aliens'. If the real ones wanted to take over this world they could do so in a millisecond. They have saved us from real attack attempts numerous times as they know we cannot defend ourselves against such highly developed technology used by highly intelligent (but obviously misguided) races who are not from this Solar System but from much further afield. Some of the 'Greys' are similar to the 'Demons' of past centuries. "
" Boyd Bushman, a Senior Scientist at LOCKHEED MARTIN who speaks of first hand experience with Alien life forms and the UFO cover up at Area 51.
Speaking for the first time publicly with Photo's about his experience dealing with extraterrestrials, their craft and the Governments extraterrestrial cover up before his death. Boyd Bushman spoke with independent aerospace engineer Mark Q. Patterson shortly before his death last August 2014 and made some surprising and highly questionable claims about real aliens working at Area 51, faster than light travel and work on anti-gravity technology. "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd_ZXgObNNg
And opponents:
" Another lie and fantasy from Bushman.He says Robert Oppenheimer worked in Area51 until the Aliens kicked him off the facility.He worked there in 1970 to 1980.I say Bull shit .Because Oppenheimer died in 1964 Feb 18th.Again you see the Deception Bullshit fantasy scientist at work again.Spreading lies and crap.I think also i have seen him talking about Albert Einstein also seen these fucking grey Aliens in Area51 in 1970.Again Einstein died in 1955.And Area51 was built in 1953 ha ha ha.What a silly old fart Bushman remains.The man got Dementia early."
and another dimension of opponents:
" All Real Extra-Terrestrials have perfect clairvoyance, you could not catch them nor shoot them down. They do not crash their craft. As they are ALL millions of years our senior they do not cooperate with Earth military dark projects. They are not allowed to let us have hardware from their own science. These small individuals are most definitely from Earth's lower astral realms. Even though some of them appear friendly they do pretend to be 'Aliens'. If the real ones wanted to take over this world they could do so in a millisecond. They have saved us from real attack attempts numerous times as they know we cannot defend ourselves against such highly developed technology used by highly intelligent (but obviously misguided) races who are not from this Solar System but from much further afield. Some of the 'Greys' are similar to the 'Demons' of past centuries. "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd_ZXgObNNg
21 December 2016 21:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Skunkwork worker (lissten last minute of what he tell in the end also..) :
(Don Phillips, Contractor, USAF, CIA, Lockheed Skunkworks.
)
He testifies that we not only have these extraterrestrial devices, but have also achieved tremendous technological advances from their study. He states that in the 1950's and 1960's, NATO did research into the origin of ET races, and disseminated reports to the leaders of various countries. He lists a few of the technologies we were able to develop because of ETs: computer chips, lasers, night vision, and bulletproof vests. Mr. Phillips now develops technologies that can help eliminate environmental pollutants and reduce the need for fossil fuels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAqpVweK3tk
Opponents say:
" My gut tells me he's lying. Talks way too much, too fast, always rattling off dates. Ignores specific questions, When asked how security was breached he makes a couple of jokes about security people being crazy or nutty and seems to be buying some time to think about what he is going to say but then never answers the question and jumps right to "the crafts are real and they're there"..... Wha? huh?... Excessive talking is a clue that someone is lying. This guy does not take a breath.
Also I definitively don't trust Greer. He's got a nice scam going. His books are crowdfunded with hundred's of thousands of dollars. He charged $4000 per person to go on group Alien searches. LOL.
He claims he was briefed on aliens by the former head of the CIA as well as others but the Former CIA boss as well as the other men at the "briefing" (which was actually just a dinner party) released a letter accusing Greer of publishing a "distorted account" of a conversation at a dinner party as well as attributing statements to these men that were not true.
Having said all of that, I may be completely wrong about this guy (not Greer) and he may be telling the truth but if I was forced to make a bet, I would bet he was lying. "
(Don Phillips, Contractor, USAF, CIA, Lockheed Skunkworks.
)
He testifies that we not only have these extraterrestrial devices, but have also achieved tremendous technological advances from their study. He states that in the 1950's and 1960's, NATO did research into the origin of ET races, and disseminated reports to the leaders of various countries. He lists a few of the technologies we were able to develop because of ETs: computer chips, lasers, night vision, and bulletproof vests. Mr. Phillips now develops technologies that can help eliminate environmental pollutants and reduce the need for fossil fuels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAqpVweK3tk
Opponents say:
" My gut tells me he's lying. Talks way too much, too fast, always rattling off dates. Ignores specific questions, When asked how security was breached he makes a couple of jokes about security people being crazy or nutty and seems to be buying some time to think about what he is going to say but then never answers the question and jumps right to "the crafts are real and they're there"..... Wha? huh?... Excessive talking is a clue that someone is lying. This guy does not take a breath.
Also I definitively don't trust Greer. He's got a nice scam going. His books are crowdfunded with hundred's of thousands of dollars. He charged $4000 per person to go on group Alien searches. LOL.
He claims he was briefed on aliens by the former head of the CIA as well as others but the Former CIA boss as well as the other men at the "briefing" (which was actually just a dinner party) released a letter accusing Greer of publishing a "distorted account" of a conversation at a dinner party as well as attributing statements to these men that were not true.
Having said all of that, I may be completely wrong about this guy (not Greer) and he may be telling the truth but if I was forced to make a bet, I would bet he was lying. "
21 December 2016 21:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"We have the technology to take ET home, anything you can imagine we already have the technology to do, but these technologies are locked up in black budget projects. It would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity – Ben Rich, Fmr CEO of LockHeed Skunk Works"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO0T05kQkbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO0T05kQkbs
21 December 2016 19:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"We have the technology to take ET home, anything you can imagine we already have the technology to do, but these technologies are locked up in black budget projects. It would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity – Ben Rich, Fmr CEO of LockHeed Skunk Works"
What company is it ?
" For more than 70 years, the Skunk Works has existed to create revolutionary aircraft and technologies that push the boundaries of what is possible "
Skunk Works is an official alias for Lockheed Martin's Advanced Development Programs, formerly called Lockheed Advanced Development Projects. Wikipedia
Founder: Kelly Johnson
For sample what kind of work SkunkWorks capable doing:
" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_F-117_Nighthawk Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk is a single-seat, twin-engine stealth attack aircraft that was developed by Lockheed's secretive Skunk Works division and operated by the United States Air Force (USAF). The F-117 was based on the Have Blue technology demonstrator, and was the first operational aircraft to be designed around stealth technology."
"The Lockheed SR-71 "Blackbird" was a long-range, Mach 3+ strategic reconnaissance aircraft that was operated by the United States Air Force. It was developed as a black project from the Lockheed A-12 reconnaissance aircraft in the 1960s by Lockheed and its Skunk Works division.
During aerial reconnaissance missions, the SR-71 operated at high speeds and altitudes to allow it to outrace threats. If a surface-to-air missile launch was detected, the standard evasive action was simply to accelerate and outfly the missile "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird
" The Lockheed Martin SR-72 is a conceptualized hypersonic UAV intended for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance proposed by American company Lockheed Martin to succeed the retired Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird.
able to fly six times the speed of sound
A hypersonic demonstrator aircraft the size of an F-22 stealth fighter could be built for less than $1 billion "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_SR-72
( They have filed several challenges against registrants of domain names containing variations on the term under anti-cybersquatting policies, and have lost a case under the .uk domain name dispute resolution service against a company selling cannabis seeds and paraphernalia, which used the word "skunkworks" in its domain name (referring to "Skunk", a variety of the cannabis plant). )
What company is it ?
" For more than 70 years, the Skunk Works has existed to create revolutionary aircraft and technologies that push the boundaries of what is possible "
Skunk Works is an official alias for Lockheed Martin's Advanced Development Programs, formerly called Lockheed Advanced Development Projects. Wikipedia
Founder: Kelly Johnson
For sample what kind of work SkunkWorks capable doing:
" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_F-117_Nighthawk Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk is a single-seat, twin-engine stealth attack aircraft that was developed by Lockheed's secretive Skunk Works division and operated by the United States Air Force (USAF). The F-117 was based on the Have Blue technology demonstrator, and was the first operational aircraft to be designed around stealth technology."
"The Lockheed SR-71 "Blackbird" was a long-range, Mach 3+ strategic reconnaissance aircraft that was operated by the United States Air Force. It was developed as a black project from the Lockheed A-12 reconnaissance aircraft in the 1960s by Lockheed and its Skunk Works division.
During aerial reconnaissance missions, the SR-71 operated at high speeds and altitudes to allow it to outrace threats. If a surface-to-air missile launch was detected, the standard evasive action was simply to accelerate and outfly the missile "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird
" The Lockheed Martin SR-72 is a conceptualized hypersonic UAV intended for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance proposed by American company Lockheed Martin to succeed the retired Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird.
able to fly six times the speed of sound
A hypersonic demonstrator aircraft the size of an F-22 stealth fighter could be built for less than $1 billion "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_SR-72
( They have filed several challenges against registrants of domain names containing variations on the term under anti-cybersquatting policies, and have lost a case under the .uk domain name dispute resolution service against a company selling cannabis seeds and paraphernalia, which used the word "skunkworks" in its domain name (referring to "Skunk", a variety of the cannabis plant). )
21 December 2016 19:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
."NASA funded the University of Iowa for this study, and they are still unclear as to what these portals are. All they have done is observed charged particles flowing through them that cause electro-magnetic phenomenon in Earth’s atmosphere.
Magnetic portals are invisible, unstable and elusive. they open and close without warming and there are no signposts to guide is in – Dr Scudder, University of Iowa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3_vW5yrNek
Magnetic portals are invisible, unstable and elusive. they open and close without warming and there are no signposts to guide is in – Dr Scudder, University of Iowa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3_vW5yrNek
21 December 2016 19:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
“These scenes were filmed on our premises, but without official permission or knowledge,” a spokeswoman for the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) told the AFP news agency.
It appears that CERN may know exactly who was involved, because their spokeswoman told the press that CERN “welcomes every year thousands of scientific users from all over the world and sometimes some of them let their humor go too far” and that “those responsible for the prank had access badges”
It appears that CERN may know exactly who was involved, because their spokeswoman told the press that CERN “welcomes every year thousands of scientific users from all over the world and sometimes some of them let their humor go too far” and that “those responsible for the prank had access badges”
21 December 2016 17:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
To make sure, that something is not talked about scientist need to ridicule the topic first, making it open and make it look staged, stage it as staged .. so if at any case story does come open, then it can be laughed off as "well.. yea these pranksters..."
As we know many tests from more than 50 year back, ..and many where people agreed to give their life and...well, for advancements of science it is needed. And promised is great public recognition later when something good comes out from this... but real tests what we have to worry about for sure does not happen massively in these kinds of settings, but also underground and also with a public.
As we know many tests from more than 50 year back, ..and many where people agreed to give their life and...well, for advancements of science it is needed. And promised is great public recognition later when something good comes out from this... but real tests what we have to worry about for sure does not happen massively in these kinds of settings, but also underground and also with a public.
21 December 2016 17:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"I saw a video of a strange ritual at CERN, is it real?"
CERN answer: " this video from summer 2016 was a work of fiction showing a contrived scene. Persons that are authorised to access the CERN site sometimes let their sense of humour go too far, and that is what has happened on this occasion. CERN does not condone this kind of spoof, which breaches CERN’s professional guidelines.
https://press.cern/backgrounders/cern-answers-queries-social-media
CERN answer: " this video from summer 2016 was a work of fiction showing a contrived scene. Persons that are authorised to access the CERN site sometimes let their sense of humour go too far, and that is what has happened on this occasion. CERN does not condone this kind of spoof, which breaches CERN’s professional guidelines.
https://press.cern/backgrounders/cern-answers-queries-social-media
https://press.cern/backgrounders/cern-answers-queries-social-media
21 December 2016 16:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://youtu.be/lzPwRYnLF5A
https://youtu.be/lzPwRYnLF5A
21 December 2016 16:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This is how local man can take it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwvIFO9srUw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwvIFO9srUw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwvIFO9srUw
21 December 2016 16:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lol, at face, eyes, on 7.45
https://youtu.be/1PK-EFRlFP0?t=465
https://youtu.be/1PK-EFRlFP0?t=465
https://youtu.be/1PK-EFRlFP0?t=465
21 December 2016 16:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
How it end, how .. the ant test went (before minute 7 ) :
https://youtu.be/lzPwRYnLF5A?t=358
https://youtu.be/lzPwRYnLF5A?t=358
21 December 2016 16:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mõldud juba, vaja tehaveel
ja kasvada
ja kasvada
21 December 2016 00:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid küll veel välja mõtleme kuidas huvitama panna
21 December 2016 00:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidgi on shokeerivalt katastroofiliselt murettekitav, et nii oluliste teemade osas olematu huvi veel globaalselt on
21 December 2016 00:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/user/11213org/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/11213org/videos
20 December 2016 23:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Important to look, extra: Added to a upper video, filling in a caps:
WARNING! Religion May be Harmful to Your Health!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKBeuiXQf3E (minute 41..)
WARNING! Religion May be Harmful to Your Health!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKBeuiXQf3E (minute 41..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKBeuiXQf3E
20 December 2016 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
mayor native American networks 2 different one, are still matriarchal ... but when you read from wikipedia, it making it sound, as there newer has been any and will not be..20 December 2016 22:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
and sorry for reacting, just to headline, before reading an article, in fact, i feel not any need to read it now even... as reacted to it to much perhaps or..20 December 2016 22:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
women have to figure out at times, or man.. why you made a man, whit who and for what20 December 2016 22:23
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Quesada's post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
hard pill to swallow for most good people is today, that they are the bastard children, of these who wave waged war against everything good that has been in this globe... but ... maybe, as they had to use genes of native people to survive so far... you can take it as Natives infiltrating the aliens actually, and turning then and us all, in to humans,
we just have to quit doing these kind of things that are UNhuman
like shaving, killing hairs, air-rings, painting nails, high heels, even most of the bra's, tie's for sure, suits, smoking (useless things), (bad foods) drinking..
this help to strengthen us in a way that we can start to remember and connect in many dimensions after generation
mytinysecrets.com/the-magical-powers-of-your-hair/http://mytinysecrets.com/the-magical-powers-of-your-hair/
20 December 2016 22:22
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Quesada's post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
and they always make sound like it was really old times, when women was respected, and showing some (whit all respect) aborigine or ancient African tribe.. but as i told ... it has been normal in most of the world, just really reasently, and THIS is the really suppressed science,
first it was Roman empire who in skin of Germans come and ritualistically raped all our virgins for long time, making it a law, then later, communists finished off all the virtue that had survived..., (roman, wiking invaded russia, who many times has made deals about our Estonia land, with Roman empire invaded Germany,)... for Siberian people they had plans... and most of the humans they have eliminated from history who lived on these lands, many many, hundreds, small nations and cultures (in europe, russia aria) that newer made to any of the history books20 December 2016 22:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
okey, i have to calm down now20 December 2016 22:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
also man is born form a mother and joined with a women, this is life cycle of a man, that defines him as a man, when he is able to, in love, to join in to one, with a women again, ... if they ever are... everyone else will just die out20 December 2016 22:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
the equality propaganda that is forced all around the globe right now , is a trojan horse fooling pill that should not be tolerated, it is gays, homos last attempt to force women down and as usually, using women them self to it, who they think them have taken in to so low that this would seem like upbringing for a women, when man say "we equal now,...i am so good man for telling that... inn-it we respecting, i take you as equal.." ... pahh!! Equal what?? ..
how can job that can do robots be worth on same levels with them who give live to robot makers and life takers,
the whole point of bible is from beginning to end also matriarchal, starting from women can get a child with out a man and that wisdom, is a Female entity, ...and that She was, before world was. (proverbs 8:29 or something like that to the end..)20 December 2016 22:06
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Quesada's post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
No they was not and NEWER have been, where this kind of communist propaganda is coming from ? (Sorry Sarah Quesada, i know You did not invent it... but everyone who has look more deep inside, knows that MATRIARCHY was in ancient times, before invaders, ... and Estonia, was up to the times BEFORE last COMMUNISTS invasion, Matriarchyal, the entire farm master key to all locations was always with Women, and when argument went loud on public or home, then was insult for a man to have last word or to make loud shouting at a women... what would people think of this kind of man who shouts and threatens a women.. this kind of man was taken to a woods by other man and given a teaching,,,, )20 December 2016 21:58
Margus Meigo commented on Jonny Cache's post.
Group: The Ecology of Systems Thinking
So... it has always been so?20 December 2016 21:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
@same time , the masters of standards:
https://www.eff.org/node/82654
https://www.eff.org/node/82654
20 December 2016 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This paper is included in the Proceedings of the
25th USENIX Security Symposium
August 10–12, 2016 • Austin, TX
ISB N 978 -1- 931971-32- 4
https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/usenixsecurity16/sec16_paper_saltaformaggio.pdf
25th USENIX Security Symposium
August 10–12, 2016 • Austin, TX
ISB N 978 -1- 931971-32- 4
https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/usenixsecurity16/sec16_paper_saltaformaggio.pdf
20 December 2016 19:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
A demo of RetroScope recovering a suspect's chat session from a memory image of the Telegram app is available on YouTube at:
(Also works for IRS2Go, Chase Banking, Word, Calendar, MMS, Skype.. and any other..)
https://youtu.be/RPz1KAAWkmo can comment
https://youtu.be/bsKTmZEgxiE. original video
(Also works for IRS2Go, Chase Banking, Word, Calendar, MMS, Skype.. and any other..)
https://youtu.be/RPz1KAAWkmo can comment
https://youtu.be/bsKTmZEgxiE. original video
https://youtu.be/RPz1KAAWkmo
20 December 2016 19:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
it's like they openly almost promote slightly unlawful substances... is like they not afraid any-more.. .. is like.. they know what they do, hahaha @ minute 10. :D
20 December 2016 18:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"so how did we get started... so we was under influence of something..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljuHGad4QwM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljuHGad4QwM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljuHGad4QwM
20 December 2016 18:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
. see Raja Ram ütles, et ta mdma leiutamisest saati siiani, pidevalt trippind,
ei tundu ajukahjustust olema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y0JD4dqEIo
ei tundu ajukahjustust olema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y0JD4dqEIo
20 December 2016 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
teine paneb siiamaani
20 December 2016 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
dangerous assumption
20 December 2016 18:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lilljefelt
https://www.geni.com/people/Georg-Woldemar-Johann-Georg-von-Lilienfeld/6000000009305867268?through=6000000009305962240
G.Fater: https://www.geni.com/people/Karl-Friedrich-von-Lilienfeld/6000000015653641650?through=6000000015113255173
Karl Friedrich had sons: Gustav Otto and Karl Gustav ,
Karl had son: Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld
and Gustav had son Heinrich Otto who also had son with name of Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld.
https://www.geni.com/people/Jakob-Heinrich-von-Lilienfeld-a-Moisama/6000000015389150065
And:
https://www.geni.com/people/Jakob-Heinrich-von-Lilienfeld-H-Hallik/6000000011851944676
Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld, a. Moisama
Gender: Male
Birth: November 20, 1716
Andja, Sõmeru, Estland
Death: July 1, 1785 (68)
Riga (Riia), Livland
Immediate Family:
Son of Karl Gustav von Lilienfeld and Sophia Gertrude von Lilienfeld
Husband of Christine von Lilienfeld, a. Moisama
Father of Karl Magnus von Lilienfeld, a. Neu-Oberpahlen; Aurora Maria von Lilienfeld; Christine Jakobine von Lilienfeld; Peter von Lilienfeld; Margarethe von Lilienfeld and 1 other
Brother of Karl Gustav von Lilienfeld; Reinhold Wilhelm von Lilienfeld; Hedwig Charlotte von Lilienfeld and Magnus von Lilienfeld
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Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld, H. Hallik
Gender: Male
Birth: July 30, 1774
Parrasmetz (Parasmetsa), Leisi , Ösel (Saaremaa), Estland
Death: June 28, 1827 (52)
Hallik (Halliku), Kodavere, Tartumaa, Estland
Immediate Family:
Son of Heinrich Otto von Lilienfeld and Charlotte von Smitten
Husband of Augusta Johanna von Baranoff
Father of Otto Friedrich (Friedrich) von Lilienfeld-Toal; Charlotte Sophie Friederike von Lilienfeld; Auguste Henriette von Lilienfeld; Katharina Elisabeth* von Mensenkampff and Christina Amalie* von Lilienfeld
Brother of Johann Gustav von Lilienfeld; Frommhold Friedrich von Lilienfeld; Joachim Gustav von Lilienfeld; Carl Otto von Lilienfeld; Joachim Heinrich von Lilienfeld; Georg Woldemar (Johann Georg) von Lilienfeld and Margaretha Sophia von Lilienfeld
https://www.geni.com/people/Georg-Woldemar-Johann-Georg-von-Lilienfeld/6000000009305867268?through=6000000009305962240
G.Fater: https://www.geni.com/people/Karl-Friedrich-von-Lilienfeld/6000000015653641650?through=6000000015113255173
Karl Friedrich had sons: Gustav Otto and Karl Gustav ,
Karl had son: Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld
and Gustav had son Heinrich Otto who also had son with name of Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld.
https://www.geni.com/people/Jakob-Heinrich-von-Lilienfeld-a-Moisama/6000000015389150065
And:
https://www.geni.com/people/Jakob-Heinrich-von-Lilienfeld-H-Hallik/6000000011851944676
Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld, a. Moisama
Gender: Male
Birth: November 20, 1716
Andja, Sõmeru, Estland
Death: July 1, 1785 (68)
Riga (Riia), Livland
Immediate Family:
Son of Karl Gustav von Lilienfeld and Sophia Gertrude von Lilienfeld
Husband of Christine von Lilienfeld, a. Moisama
Father of Karl Magnus von Lilienfeld, a. Neu-Oberpahlen; Aurora Maria von Lilienfeld; Christine Jakobine von Lilienfeld; Peter von Lilienfeld; Margarethe von Lilienfeld and 1 other
Brother of Karl Gustav von Lilienfeld; Reinhold Wilhelm von Lilienfeld; Hedwig Charlotte von Lilienfeld and Magnus von Lilienfeld
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Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld, H. Hallik
Gender: Male
Birth: July 30, 1774
Parrasmetz (Parasmetsa), Leisi , Ösel (Saaremaa), Estland
Death: June 28, 1827 (52)
Hallik (Halliku), Kodavere, Tartumaa, Estland
Immediate Family:
Son of Heinrich Otto von Lilienfeld and Charlotte von Smitten
Husband of Augusta Johanna von Baranoff
Father of Otto Friedrich (Friedrich) von Lilienfeld-Toal; Charlotte Sophie Friederike von Lilienfeld; Auguste Henriette von Lilienfeld; Katharina Elisabeth* von Mensenkampff and Christina Amalie* von Lilienfeld
Brother of Johann Gustav von Lilienfeld; Frommhold Friedrich von Lilienfeld; Joachim Gustav von Lilienfeld; Carl Otto von Lilienfeld; Joachim Heinrich von Lilienfeld; Georg Woldemar (Johann Georg) von Lilienfeld and Margaretha Sophia von Lilienfeld
19 December 2016 18:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld - 300 / 2. detsember - 6. jaanuar
Raamatunäitus tutvustab kirjandust Uue-Põltsamaa mõisniku Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeldi (1716-1785) elu ja tegevuse kohta ja on pühendatud tema 300. sünniaastapäevale.
J.H. von Lilienfeld oli baltisaksa filosoof, näitekirjanik, esseist ja juhuluuletaja. Ta on andnud oma panuse ka Euroopa ühinemise ideesse. Oma kolmes avaldatud vihikus analüüsis ta Euroopa ühinemise võimalusi kõikide ühise eesmärgi nimel - lõpetada igaveseks sõjad. J.H. von Lilienfeld oli tuntud ka tugeva maletajana. Uue-Põltsamaa mõis korraldas tema mälestuseks maleturniiri Lilienfeld Cup 2016.
http://www.jkrk.ee/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2922:jakob-heinrich-von-lilienfeld-300&catid=4&Itemid=3
Raamatunäitus tutvustab kirjandust Uue-Põltsamaa mõisniku Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeldi (1716-1785) elu ja tegevuse kohta ja on pühendatud tema 300. sünniaastapäevale.
J.H. von Lilienfeld oli baltisaksa filosoof, näitekirjanik, esseist ja juhuluuletaja. Ta on andnud oma panuse ka Euroopa ühinemise ideesse. Oma kolmes avaldatud vihikus analüüsis ta Euroopa ühinemise võimalusi kõikide ühise eesmärgi nimel - lõpetada igaveseks sõjad. J.H. von Lilienfeld oli tuntud ka tugeva maletajana. Uue-Põltsamaa mõis korraldas tema mälestuseks maleturniiri Lilienfeld Cup 2016.
http://www.jkrk.ee/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2922:jakob-heinrich-von-lilienfeld-300&catid=4&Itemid=3
http://www.jkrk.ee/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2922%3Ajakob-heinrich-von-lilienfeld-300&catid=4&Itemid=3
19 December 2016 18:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Veel neid aegu meeldetuletamaks.. milliseid sorte siin kohapeal oli:
"Vahel pekstud nii, et hing jäänud aga vaevalt sisse. Linadega keeratud, siis pekstud inimesi. Mõisnikel olnud esimese öö õigus. Esimesed lapsed olnud ikka härra omad. Ega keegi midagi ütelda pole tohtinud. (Eduard Mägi) "
http://www.folklore.ee/radar/story.php?area=Viru-Jaagupi&id=150
Filiosas, esimese öö õiguse filmiga, muidu jäi silma, et enamus filmid meil ikka Draama, Dokumentaal ja komöödia (enamasti kahe esimese kallal)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Estonian_films
http://www.efis.ee/et/filmiliigid/film/id/82/sisukokkuvote
"Sisukokkuvõte Veste Paasi raamatu "Olnud ajad", lk 120-121 ja omaaegsete ajakirjandusallikate alusel:
Neiu Helja Vainola (Mary Melsas) on Vabadussõjas halastajaõeks. Laatsaretis kohtab ta haavatud inglise leitnanti John Smithi (Rene Leer), kes on sõjas vabatahtlikuna. Noored armuvad, John palub Helja kätt, kuid neiu tahab lõpetada meditsiiniõpingud ülikoolis. Mõne aasta möödudes Eestisse naastes riivab John autoga Helja tallu sõites teel kogemata vana professorit ja viib ta Helja juurde toibuma. Johni palvel räägib teadlane eestlaste ajaloost ja muistsest vabadusvõitlusest. Orjaöö kohta loeb ta oma käsikirjast loo, mis elustub ekraanil järgmiselt.
Rüütel Uno von Sternhell (Hartius Möller) igavleb mõisas. Hingekarjasel, paater Albertil (Carl Treumundt) ei tule enam ühtki uut lõbustust pähe. Ajaviiteks prassinud, minnakse lõpuks jahile, kaasas eestlasest paaž Mangu (Adalbert Kirschenberg), keda ihaldab rüütliproua Stella von Sternhell (Niina Kusbock). Teel heidab rüütel silma orjapiiga Lindale (Ludmilla Puhmas-Karma). Mangu armub kaunisse neidu ja palub luba teda kosida, olles selle nimel valmis kasvõi taas orjaks minema. Isand soostub, kuid otsib võimalust oma kõlvatu kire rahuldamiseks. Selle juhatab talle kätte paater - von Sternhell nõudku mõisahärrade esimese öö õigust. Mõisamehed röövivadki mõrsja otse pulmapeolt, kuid Mangu koos talumeestega tabab nad lossiväravas. Kahevõitluses surmab vihast ja meeleheitest tiivustatud Mangu mõõgaga von Sternhelli, kuid pääseda noorpaaril ei õnnestu. Nad võetakse kinni, Mangu pekstakse mõrsja silme ees surnuks, Linda kaotab mõistuse ja vannub kättemaksu tulevikus.
Vapustatuna sellest loost, tänab Smithide noorpaar Jumalat, et sellised brutaalsed tavad on jäädavalt minevikus, ja sõidab õnnelikult Inglismaale."
Tulevik on tulemas
"Vahel pekstud nii, et hing jäänud aga vaevalt sisse. Linadega keeratud, siis pekstud inimesi. Mõisnikel olnud esimese öö õigus. Esimesed lapsed olnud ikka härra omad. Ega keegi midagi ütelda pole tohtinud. (Eduard Mägi) "
http://www.folklore.ee/radar/story.php?area=Viru-Jaagupi&id=150
Filiosas, esimese öö õiguse filmiga, muidu jäi silma, et enamus filmid meil ikka Draama, Dokumentaal ja komöödia (enamasti kahe esimese kallal)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Estonian_films
http://www.efis.ee/et/filmiliigid/film/id/82/sisukokkuvote
"Sisukokkuvõte Veste Paasi raamatu "Olnud ajad", lk 120-121 ja omaaegsete ajakirjandusallikate alusel:
Neiu Helja Vainola (Mary Melsas) on Vabadussõjas halastajaõeks. Laatsaretis kohtab ta haavatud inglise leitnanti John Smithi (Rene Leer), kes on sõjas vabatahtlikuna. Noored armuvad, John palub Helja kätt, kuid neiu tahab lõpetada meditsiiniõpingud ülikoolis. Mõne aasta möödudes Eestisse naastes riivab John autoga Helja tallu sõites teel kogemata vana professorit ja viib ta Helja juurde toibuma. Johni palvel räägib teadlane eestlaste ajaloost ja muistsest vabadusvõitlusest. Orjaöö kohta loeb ta oma käsikirjast loo, mis elustub ekraanil järgmiselt.
Rüütel Uno von Sternhell (Hartius Möller) igavleb mõisas. Hingekarjasel, paater Albertil (Carl Treumundt) ei tule enam ühtki uut lõbustust pähe. Ajaviiteks prassinud, minnakse lõpuks jahile, kaasas eestlasest paaž Mangu (Adalbert Kirschenberg), keda ihaldab rüütliproua Stella von Sternhell (Niina Kusbock). Teel heidab rüütel silma orjapiiga Lindale (Ludmilla Puhmas-Karma). Mangu armub kaunisse neidu ja palub luba teda kosida, olles selle nimel valmis kasvõi taas orjaks minema. Isand soostub, kuid otsib võimalust oma kõlvatu kire rahuldamiseks. Selle juhatab talle kätte paater - von Sternhell nõudku mõisahärrade esimese öö õigust. Mõisamehed röövivadki mõrsja otse pulmapeolt, kuid Mangu koos talumeestega tabab nad lossiväravas. Kahevõitluses surmab vihast ja meeleheitest tiivustatud Mangu mõõgaga von Sternhelli, kuid pääseda noorpaaril ei õnnestu. Nad võetakse kinni, Mangu pekstakse mõrsja silme ees surnuks, Linda kaotab mõistuse ja vannub kättemaksu tulevikus.
Vapustatuna sellest loost, tänab Smithide noorpaar Jumalat, et sellised brutaalsed tavad on jäädavalt minevikus, ja sõidab õnnelikult Inglismaale."
Tulevik on tulemas
http://www.folklore.ee/radar/story.php?area=Viru-Jaagupi&id=150
19 December 2016 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Im Roman 1984 von George Orwell wird das ius primae noctis erwähnt (Teil 1, Kapitel 7):
“There was also something called the jus primae noctis which would probably not be mentioned in a textbook for children. It was the law by which every capitalist had the right to sleep with any woman working in one of his factories.”
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ius_primae_noctis
“There was also something called the jus primae noctis which would probably not be mentioned in a textbook for children. It was the law by which every capitalist had the right to sleep with any woman working in one of his factories.”
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ius_primae_noctis
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ius_primae_noctis
19 December 2016 18:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"If earlier any Latvian or Estonian who managed to rise above his class was expected to Germanize and to forget his roots, by the middle of 19th century German urban classes began to feel increasing competition from the natives, who after the First Latvian National Awakening and Estonian national awakening produced their own middle class and moved to German and Jewish dominated towns and cities in increasing numbers.
//Genealogy was manipulated and randomly connected with any similar sounding names in Germany, to make it look as Estonian higher class was from germane roots , also law was that every Virgin have to be raped by German "noble man" first before it is allowed for her to merry with another Estonian.
Law was canceled as to many Estonian women started to murder the German nobles with who they was forced to sleep with, many girls choose suicide to preserve their honor
" Starting from the 18th century Baltic German nobility increasingly assumed leading posts in the Russian imperial government, after all, Russia was ruled by a German dynasty of Holstein-Gottorp, and Baltic Germans provided a well-educated, Westernized elite.
Germans, other than the local estate-owners, mainly lived in the cities, such as Riga, Reval, Dorpat, Pernau and Mittau. As late as the mid-19th century the population of many of these cities still had a German majority, with Estonian, Latvian or Jewish minorities. By 1867 Riga's population was 42.9% German.[8] Until the late 19th century most of the professional and learned classes in the region, the literati, were Germans.
German political and cultural autonomy ceased in the 1880s, when Russification replaced German administration and schooling with the usage of Russian. After 1885 provincial governors usually were Russians. "
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The Revolution of 1905 led to attacks against the Baltic German landowners, the burning of manors, and the torture and even killing of members of the nobility. During the 1905 Revolution groups of rebels burned over 400 manor houses and German owned buildings and killed 82 Germans. In response Cossack punitive expeditions aided by German nobles and officers burned down hundreds of farms, arrested and deported thousands and summarily executed at least 2,000 people.
Reaction to 1905 Revolution included a scheme by Karl Baron von Manteuffel-Szoege and Silvio Broedrich-Kurmahlen to pacify the countryside by settling up to 20,000 ethnic German farmers, mostly from Volhynia, in Courland
--
But at same time:
"After the collapse of German Empire, Baltic Germans in Estonia began forming volunteer units to defend against the Bolshevik threat. On November 27, 1918 this was authorized by Estonian government and the Volunteer Baltic Battalion (Freiwilligen Baltenbataillon) was formed under command of Colonel Constantin von Weiss.
During the Estonian and Latvian independence wars of 1918–1920, many Baltic Germans signed voluntarily into the newly formed Estonian and Latvian armies to help secure the independence of these countries from Russia. These Baltic German military units became known as the Baltische Landeswehr in Latvia and Baltenregiment in Estonia. The State archives of Estonia and Latvia keep individual military records of each person who fought in this war.
Baltische Landeswehr units took Riga on May 22, 1919 which was followed by White Terror in which up to 2,000 people, mostly Latvians, were shot as suspected Bolshevik supporters.
Baltic German outlying estates were frequent targets of local Bolsheviks (as portrayed in the film, Coup de Grâce) and the combination of local Bolsheviks and nationalists following independence brought about land nationalisations and a displacement of Baltic Germans from positions of authority. Baltic Germans of Livonian Governorate found themselves in two new countries, both of which introduced sweeping agrarian reforms aimed at the large land owners, absolute majority of whom were Germans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Germans
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esimese_%C3%B6%C3%B6_%C3%B5igus
//Genealogy was manipulated and randomly connected with any similar sounding names in Germany, to make it look as Estonian higher class was from germane roots , also law was that every Virgin have to be raped by German "noble man" first before it is allowed for her to merry with another Estonian.
Law was canceled as to many Estonian women started to murder the German nobles with who they was forced to sleep with, many girls choose suicide to preserve their honor
" Starting from the 18th century Baltic German nobility increasingly assumed leading posts in the Russian imperial government, after all, Russia was ruled by a German dynasty of Holstein-Gottorp, and Baltic Germans provided a well-educated, Westernized elite.
Germans, other than the local estate-owners, mainly lived in the cities, such as Riga, Reval, Dorpat, Pernau and Mittau. As late as the mid-19th century the population of many of these cities still had a German majority, with Estonian, Latvian or Jewish minorities. By 1867 Riga's population was 42.9% German.[8] Until the late 19th century most of the professional and learned classes in the region, the literati, were Germans.
German political and cultural autonomy ceased in the 1880s, when Russification replaced German administration and schooling with the usage of Russian. After 1885 provincial governors usually were Russians. "
---
The Revolution of 1905 led to attacks against the Baltic German landowners, the burning of manors, and the torture and even killing of members of the nobility. During the 1905 Revolution groups of rebels burned over 400 manor houses and German owned buildings and killed 82 Germans. In response Cossack punitive expeditions aided by German nobles and officers burned down hundreds of farms, arrested and deported thousands and summarily executed at least 2,000 people.
Reaction to 1905 Revolution included a scheme by Karl Baron von Manteuffel-Szoege and Silvio Broedrich-Kurmahlen to pacify the countryside by settling up to 20,000 ethnic German farmers, mostly from Volhynia, in Courland
--
But at same time:
"After the collapse of German Empire, Baltic Germans in Estonia began forming volunteer units to defend against the Bolshevik threat. On November 27, 1918 this was authorized by Estonian government and the Volunteer Baltic Battalion (Freiwilligen Baltenbataillon) was formed under command of Colonel Constantin von Weiss.
During the Estonian and Latvian independence wars of 1918–1920, many Baltic Germans signed voluntarily into the newly formed Estonian and Latvian armies to help secure the independence of these countries from Russia. These Baltic German military units became known as the Baltische Landeswehr in Latvia and Baltenregiment in Estonia. The State archives of Estonia and Latvia keep individual military records of each person who fought in this war.
Baltische Landeswehr units took Riga on May 22, 1919 which was followed by White Terror in which up to 2,000 people, mostly Latvians, were shot as suspected Bolshevik supporters.
Baltic German outlying estates were frequent targets of local Bolsheviks (as portrayed in the film, Coup de Grâce) and the combination of local Bolsheviks and nationalists following independence brought about land nationalisations and a displacement of Baltic Germans from positions of authority. Baltic Germans of Livonian Governorate found themselves in two new countries, both of which introduced sweeping agrarian reforms aimed at the large land owners, absolute majority of whom were Germans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Germans
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esimese_%C3%B6%C3%B6_%C3%B5igus
19 December 2016 18:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sometimes also in:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Neues-Staats-Geb%C3%A4ude-B%C3%BCchern-Heinrich-Lilienfeld/dp/B0014VF5ZE
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Neues-Staats-Geb%C3%A4ude-B%C3%BCchern-Heinrich-Lilienfeld/dp/B0014VF5ZE
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Neues-Staats-Geb%C3%A4ude-B%C3%BCchern-Heinrich-Lilienfeld/dp/B0014VF5ZE
19 December 2016 16:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Available in:
http://ci.nii.ac.jp/ncid/BA38307597
http://ci.nii.ac.jp/ncid/BA38307597
http://ci.nii.ac.jp/ncid/BA38307597
19 December 2016 16:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld (1716-1785) is the author of the most comprehensive and detailed German-language draft of a European peace order in the eighteenth century, and the only one a diplomat has worked out. He was a secret legation councilor in Holstein, and belonged to a circle of active enlighteners and entrepreneurs in Põltsamaa / Oberpahlen, who sought political reform and economic modernization of Russia. His main work "Neues Staats-Gebäude" (New State Building) was published in 1767 by Breitkopf in Leipzig and comprises 374 pages."
The task of a reasonable European policy is to establish an international legal order similar to that of civil law, which grants every nation guaranteed freedoms with acceptable restrictions. It is only by assigning rights to a supra-national organization that the European nations can reach satisfied, stable conditions and thus, paradoxically, become sovereign in their own home. With this argument Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld promotes a united Europe.
http://www.cultur-concept.de/Vortr%E4geLilienfeld2.html
The task of a reasonable European policy is to establish an international legal order similar to that of civil law, which grants every nation guaranteed freedoms with acceptable restrictions. It is only by assigning rights to a supra-national organization that the European nations can reach satisfied, stable conditions and thus, paradoxically, become sovereign in their own home. With this argument Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld promotes a united Europe.
http://www.cultur-concept.de/Vortr%E4geLilienfeld2.html
http://www.cultur-concept.de/Vortr%E4geLilienfeld2.html
19 December 2016 16:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Baltisaksa genealoogiline uurimus on kujundanud traditsiooni, mille järgi on kõik vasallid ja aadlikud (sh. eesti nimedega ja isegi kahtlemata eesti päritoluga) in summa kuulutatud sakslasteks ja Saksamaalt pärinevaks. Selle tõestamiseks on umbropsu ja massiliselt otsitud Saksamaalt sama ajastu genealoogilistest uurimustest juhuslikke umbes sarnaseid nimesid, kes võinuks olla Eestis esinevate vastavate isikute esiisadeks.[2]" Samas peetakse genealoogilise traditsiooni alusel Lieveneid pärinevaks Kaupost, kes oli ülik, mitte talupoeg, ja seega suursugust päritolu. Neid, kes ei suutnud oma saksa päritolu tõestada, nimetati kadakasakslasteks.
Baltisakslaste päritolu on mitmekesine ja osaliselt ebaselge, kuid iseenesestmõistetavaks peetakse Saksamaa päritolu. Baltisakslaste rahvusgrupi teket seostatakse Henriku Liivimaa kroonikas kirjeldatud võitlustega praeguse Eesti ja Läti aladel 13. sajandi algul. Võimalik eesti, liivi ja läti päritolu oli tabuteema, see vaikiti maha ja sellise küsimuse asetamist peeti iseenesest solvavaks
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltisakslased
Baltisakslaste päritolu on mitmekesine ja osaliselt ebaselge, kuid iseenesestmõistetavaks peetakse Saksamaa päritolu. Baltisakslaste rahvusgrupi teket seostatakse Henriku Liivimaa kroonikas kirjeldatud võitlustega praeguse Eesti ja Läti aladel 13. sajandi algul. Võimalik eesti, liivi ja läti päritolu oli tabuteema, see vaikiti maha ja sellise küsimuse asetamist peeti iseenesest solvavaks
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltisakslased
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltisakslased
19 December 2016 16:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Teosed
Der Neujahrs-Wunsch [Uusaastasoov. Naljamäng viies vaatuses], Põltsamaa (Liivimaa), 1758
Uranie oder die Verwandschaft der Liebe und Freundschaft [Urania ehk armastuse ja sõpruse sugulus: naljamäng kolmes vaatuses, 1766
Neues Staatsgebäude in drey Büchern, Leipzig 1767
Versuch einer neuen Theodicee von Lilienfeld, Verfasser des neuen Staatsgebaudes, Riga 1778
Perekond[muuda | muuda lähteteksti]
Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld abiellus 1746. aastal Uue-Põltsamaa ja Kaagvere mõisa pärijanna Christine von Fickiga (1722–1788), kes oli Heinrich von Ficki tütar.
Abielust sündisid
Aurora Maria von Lilienfeld (1752–1810), Venemaa riigidaam, Püha Katariina ordeni väikese risti kavaler (1797), Kõima mõisaomanik ja kindralporutšik Karl Gustav von Rönne abikaasa
Karl Magnus von Lilienfeld (1831–1909), Preisi kuninglik kammerhärra, Uue-Põltsamaa ja Keeni mõisnik, Liivimaa maamarssali Karl Reinhold Georg von Lilienfeldi isa
Christina Jakobina von Lilienfeld (1757–1824), senaatori ja Kuramaa tsiviilkuberneri Friedrich Wilhelm von Siversi (1748–1823) abikaasa, Liivimaa maanõuniku Friedrich Wilhelm von Siversi minia
Tema vanem vend, Andja mõisnik Karl Gustav von Lilienfeld (1711–1755) oli kammerhärra ja Anna Leopoldovna õuedaami vürstitar Sofia Odojevskaja abikaasa, Moskva Relvapalati ülema vürst Vassili Odojevski (1672–1752) väimees
Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeldi esivanemad
Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld Karl Gustav von Lilienfeld
(surnud 1738) Karl Friedrich von Lilienfeld Lars Larsson Lilliefelt
(surnud 1667)
Anna Elisabeth Graff[8]
Lucia Maria von Nolcken Nolcken
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolcken
Der Neujahrs-Wunsch [Uusaastasoov. Naljamäng viies vaatuses], Põltsamaa (Liivimaa), 1758
Uranie oder die Verwandschaft der Liebe und Freundschaft [Urania ehk armastuse ja sõpruse sugulus: naljamäng kolmes vaatuses, 1766
Neues Staatsgebäude in drey Büchern, Leipzig 1767
Versuch einer neuen Theodicee von Lilienfeld, Verfasser des neuen Staatsgebaudes, Riga 1778
Perekond[muuda | muuda lähteteksti]
Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld abiellus 1746. aastal Uue-Põltsamaa ja Kaagvere mõisa pärijanna Christine von Fickiga (1722–1788), kes oli Heinrich von Ficki tütar.
Abielust sündisid
Aurora Maria von Lilienfeld (1752–1810), Venemaa riigidaam, Püha Katariina ordeni väikese risti kavaler (1797), Kõima mõisaomanik ja kindralporutšik Karl Gustav von Rönne abikaasa
Karl Magnus von Lilienfeld (1831–1909), Preisi kuninglik kammerhärra, Uue-Põltsamaa ja Keeni mõisnik, Liivimaa maamarssali Karl Reinhold Georg von Lilienfeldi isa
Christina Jakobina von Lilienfeld (1757–1824), senaatori ja Kuramaa tsiviilkuberneri Friedrich Wilhelm von Siversi (1748–1823) abikaasa, Liivimaa maanõuniku Friedrich Wilhelm von Siversi minia
Tema vanem vend, Andja mõisnik Karl Gustav von Lilienfeld (1711–1755) oli kammerhärra ja Anna Leopoldovna õuedaami vürstitar Sofia Odojevskaja abikaasa, Moskva Relvapalati ülema vürst Vassili Odojevski (1672–1752) väimees
Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeldi esivanemad
Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld Karl Gustav von Lilienfeld
(surnud 1738) Karl Friedrich von Lilienfeld Lars Larsson Lilliefelt
(surnud 1667)
Anna Elisabeth Graff[8]
Lucia Maria von Nolcken Nolcken
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolcken
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolcken
19 December 2016 16:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ta oli Mõisamaa ja 1760. aastast Vaida mõisaomanik.
2009. aastal anti Brüsselis Euroopa Liidu Nõukogu sekretariaadi poolt välja raamat „Europe giving shape to an idea“, milles Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeldi on oma poliitilise traktaadiga "Neues Staats-Gebäude in drey Büchern." („Uus riigiehitus“) peetud üheks esimeseks Euroopa Liidu–idee autoriks.
Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld (vene Яков Генрих фон Лилиенфельд; 1. detsember 1716 Andja – 12. juuli 1785 Riia) oli baltisaksa näitekirjanik, esseist ja juhuluuletaja.
Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld sündis Rootsi armee kapteni, laamani (kohtunik), Andja, Tolli ja Mõisamaa mõisniku Karl Gustav von Lilienfeldi ja Sophia Gertrude Rosencroni pojana.
Lilienfeld asus 1733. aastal teenistusse kadetikorpuses Peterburis, sai majori auastme, töötas 1741–1743 Pariisis Vene diplomaadi vürst Antioch Kantemir`i (1708–1744) saatkonnas sekretärina, oli Holsteini asevalitseja salajane saatkonnanõunik ja hiljem salanõunik
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Heinrich_von_Lilienfeld
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Heinrich_von_Lilienfeldt
2009. aastal anti Brüsselis Euroopa Liidu Nõukogu sekretariaadi poolt välja raamat „Europe giving shape to an idea“, milles Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeldi on oma poliitilise traktaadiga "Neues Staats-Gebäude in drey Büchern." („Uus riigiehitus“) peetud üheks esimeseks Euroopa Liidu–idee autoriks.
Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld (vene Яков Генрих фон Лилиенфельд; 1. detsember 1716 Andja – 12. juuli 1785 Riia) oli baltisaksa näitekirjanik, esseist ja juhuluuletaja.
Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld sündis Rootsi armee kapteni, laamani (kohtunik), Andja, Tolli ja Mõisamaa mõisniku Karl Gustav von Lilienfeldi ja Sophia Gertrude Rosencroni pojana.
Lilienfeld asus 1733. aastal teenistusse kadetikorpuses Peterburis, sai majori auastme, töötas 1741–1743 Pariisis Vene diplomaadi vürst Antioch Kantemir`i (1708–1744) saatkonnas sekretärina, oli Holsteini asevalitseja salajane saatkonnanõunik ja hiljem salanõunik
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Heinrich_von_Lilienfeld
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Heinrich_von_Lilienfeldt
19 December 2016 16:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In Von Est: "Jakob Heinrich von Lilienfeld (1. XII 1716 - 12. VII 1785)
J. H von Lilienfeld on läinud kirjanduslukku kui näitekirjanik, esseist ja juhuluuletaja.
Lilienfeld sündis Andja mõisas Sõmeru vallas. Nooruke 16-aastane Lilienfeld asus 1733. a teenistusse aadlike kadetikorpuses Peterburis, kus täitis sõjaväelisi ja diplomaatilisi kohustusi. Aastatel 1741-1743 töötas ta Pariisis Vene diplomaadi vürst Kantemiri saatkonnas. Hiilgavalt alanud karjäär lõppes 1743. aastal. Tema vennanaist Sofiat (sünd. Odojevski) kahtlustati riigipöörde plaanides osalemises. J. H. Lilienfeld otsustas erru minna ja pöörduda tagasi Liivimaale.
J. H. Lilienfeld abiellus 1746. aastal Uue-Põltsamaa mõisaomaniku tütre Christina von Fickiga. Abielu kaudu sai ta Uue-Põltsamaa ja Kaagvere mõisa omanikuks. Lilienfeldil oli kuus last. Katariina II võimuletulek 1762. aastal võimaldas tal õukonda naasta. J. H. Lilienfeldi elukohaks jäi siiski Põltsamaa, millest suurel määral tänu temale kujunes 18. sajandi teisel poolel üks tähtsamaid Baltimaade valgustuskeskusi. J. H. Lilienfeld suri Riias 12. juunil 1785. aastal.
Ta on kirjutanud kaks näitemängu. Neist esimene, 5-pildiline lustmäng "Der Neujahrs-Wunch" ilmus 1785. aastal. See oli esimene Liivimaal kirjutatud komöödia. Näidendis pilgatakse Liivimaa jäika seisuslikku korda ja selles on ka kriitikat talupoegi rõhuvate mõisnike suhtes.
Teine näidend "Uranie oder die Verwandscaft der Liebe und Feundschaft" valmis 1766. aastal. Selles komöödias polemiseeritakse draamareeglite üle. Aasta hiljem, 1767. aastal ilmus Leipzigis trükist Lilienfeldi traktaat "Neues Staats-Gebäude in drey Büchern." Töös avaldatakse üksikasjaline kava sõdade ta Euroopast ja esitatakse esmakordselt ettepanek luua Euroopa riikide liit. Veel üks ühiskonnakriitiline raamat ilmus tema sulest 1778. aastal ja kandis pealkirja "Versuch einer neuern Theodicee."
J. H. Lilienfeld on avaldanud ka juhuluulet. Kuna tema looming oli ühiskonnakriitiline, siis ilmusid kõik tema tööd pseodonüümide "von L" ja "v. L." all.
http://www.jkrk.ee/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=56:kirjanikke-poltsamaalt1&catid=12&Itemid=17
J. H von Lilienfeld on läinud kirjanduslukku kui näitekirjanik, esseist ja juhuluuletaja.
Lilienfeld sündis Andja mõisas Sõmeru vallas. Nooruke 16-aastane Lilienfeld asus 1733. a teenistusse aadlike kadetikorpuses Peterburis, kus täitis sõjaväelisi ja diplomaatilisi kohustusi. Aastatel 1741-1743 töötas ta Pariisis Vene diplomaadi vürst Kantemiri saatkonnas. Hiilgavalt alanud karjäär lõppes 1743. aastal. Tema vennanaist Sofiat (sünd. Odojevski) kahtlustati riigipöörde plaanides osalemises. J. H. Lilienfeld otsustas erru minna ja pöörduda tagasi Liivimaale.
J. H. Lilienfeld abiellus 1746. aastal Uue-Põltsamaa mõisaomaniku tütre Christina von Fickiga. Abielu kaudu sai ta Uue-Põltsamaa ja Kaagvere mõisa omanikuks. Lilienfeldil oli kuus last. Katariina II võimuletulek 1762. aastal võimaldas tal õukonda naasta. J. H. Lilienfeldi elukohaks jäi siiski Põltsamaa, millest suurel määral tänu temale kujunes 18. sajandi teisel poolel üks tähtsamaid Baltimaade valgustuskeskusi. J. H. Lilienfeld suri Riias 12. juunil 1785. aastal.
Ta on kirjutanud kaks näitemängu. Neist esimene, 5-pildiline lustmäng "Der Neujahrs-Wunch" ilmus 1785. aastal. See oli esimene Liivimaal kirjutatud komöödia. Näidendis pilgatakse Liivimaa jäika seisuslikku korda ja selles on ka kriitikat talupoegi rõhuvate mõisnike suhtes.
Teine näidend "Uranie oder die Verwandscaft der Liebe und Feundschaft" valmis 1766. aastal. Selles komöödias polemiseeritakse draamareeglite üle. Aasta hiljem, 1767. aastal ilmus Leipzigis trükist Lilienfeldi traktaat "Neues Staats-Gebäude in drey Büchern." Töös avaldatakse üksikasjaline kava sõdade ta Euroopast ja esitatakse esmakordselt ettepanek luua Euroopa riikide liit. Veel üks ühiskonnakriitiline raamat ilmus tema sulest 1778. aastal ja kandis pealkirja "Versuch einer neuern Theodicee."
J. H. Lilienfeld on avaldanud ka juhuluulet. Kuna tema looming oli ühiskonnakriitiline, siis ilmusid kõik tema tööd pseodonüümide "von L" ja "v. L." all.
http://www.jkrk.ee/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=56:kirjanikke-poltsamaalt1&catid=12&Itemid=17
19 December 2016 16:36
Margus Meigo replied to Robert Abramishvili's comment.
Thousands of years of separation, confusion, can end in this era,
Newer in a written human history, so many, with so small amount of worth, can benefit each other with this kind of ease, as in last 25 years has offered to us. And we can help to choose, how it will offer at least next 25,
By this time might become the new, nature revolution where people will learn to communicate more with another species and each other in higher level, with intention to betterment of world
Newer in a written human history, so many, with so small amount of worth, can benefit each other with this kind of ease, as in last 25 years has offered to us. And we can help to choose, how it will offer at least next 25,
By this time might become the new, nature revolution where people will learn to communicate more with another species and each other in higher level, with intention to betterment of world
19 December 2016 15:47
Margus Meigo replied to Robert Abramishvili's comment.
these with real social status (regardless of online) are the ones who can make actual real social changes most easy,
so to provide ˇupper classˇ people the effective tools, information and bridges between different class of humans, with instructions about common each other benefiting aims, seems to bring most greatest benefit, in future that i see.
Also we can see after effect most easy (at times prediction) from online information, and what group of minds need what kind of help.
so to provide ˇupper classˇ people the effective tools, information and bridges between different class of humans, with instructions about common each other benefiting aims, seems to bring most greatest benefit, in future that i see.
Also we can see after effect most easy (at times prediction) from online information, and what group of minds need what kind of help.
19 December 2016 15:38
Margus Meigo replied to Robert Abramishvili's comment.
Tell me about it,
making separate networks also is not a final solution (with no global plan) even thought, this is what i feel need to do (but with a global plan),
hope we are allowed to do it, based on facebook and few other networks, to also give thank You for a original network and same time not fall in to trap of separation and losing out great potential that this information pool offers here. How ever limited and a bit non practical way it is , for now.
Separating from the net is also retreating...
making separate networks also is not a final solution (with no global plan) even thought, this is what i feel need to do (but with a global plan),
hope we are allowed to do it, based on facebook and few other networks, to also give thank You for a original network and same time not fall in to trap of separation and losing out great potential that this information pool offers here. How ever limited and a bit non practical way it is , for now.
Separating from the net is also retreating...
19 December 2016 15:03
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Abramishvili's post.
As people with values, sometime forget, that they are on direct elimination or at least infiltration list, not so much virtually that is safe ground but it is a work for future plans, when all the bits of information is collected, and every dot connected that can be, ... but before that the good can use these tools for strengthening the connections and clarifying (safe way) historical confusion implemented by separation that in turn was given a birth by lack of truth understanding and love
19 December 2016 14:31
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Abramishvili's post.
it is not about posing so much as about tools of influencing and information.
Even the posers are used for that, some criminals.. but most of all we should look in to how to use this, whatever is done, for good.
For example,
They (posers, criminals, spammers) work with no moral so they get more far often, and so they do search job for you, you just only need to do You part for looking posers contact list, and pick up the real ones from their circles with greetings and explain them a situation, or write from another account to a fake or suspicious ones and demand them clarification for reasons why they are here.
Looks like to much of a job, but if we do it even a little bit, then soon network between people who are worth, will grow stronger, many good connections come from it and talks, information share what is far forgotten, ...
I have planned to set up these kind of support networks for long time, with additional tools.
I think Lars Ulwencreutz also did similar job
Even the posers are used for that, some criminals.. but most of all we should look in to how to use this, whatever is done, for good.
For example,
They (posers, criminals, spammers) work with no moral so they get more far often, and so they do search job for you, you just only need to do You part for looking posers contact list, and pick up the real ones from their circles with greetings and explain them a situation, or write from another account to a fake or suspicious ones and demand them clarification for reasons why they are here.
Looks like to much of a job, but if we do it even a little bit, then soon network between people who are worth, will grow stronger, many good connections come from it and talks, information share what is far forgotten, ...
I have planned to set up these kind of support networks for long time, with additional tools.
I think Lars Ulwencreutz also did similar job
19 December 2016 14:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and do
19 December 2016 12:33
Margus Meigo commented on Joxe Joxe Kimoda's post.
just belive
19 December 2016 12:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
for some time
19 December 2016 12:33
Margus Meigo commented on Justin Rolls's post.
And what You have to worry about more, is the Gov who pay to make NEGATIVE coverage...
Always need to look big picture before jumping to attack someone ... about what others doing... and how they match up IN THE situation where we are forced to be
Always need to look big picture before jumping to attack someone ... about what others doing... and how they match up IN THE situation where we are forced to be
19 December 2016 12:33
Margus Meigo commented on Justin Rolls's post.
If someone so young is talking about "We should be watchdog's..". then it sounds like they really not understanding the current situation that planet has been in,
well, few thousand years but mostly in last 50 years is nearly enough to see, how pentagram is on rise
well, few thousand years but mostly in last 50 years is nearly enough to see, how pentagram is on rise
19 December 2016 12:22
Margus Meigo commented on Justin Rolls's post.
CNN is still Way more working for human freedom then few other main leaders,
anti cnn propaganda is at rise, because they dared to become honest and reveal things like LSD, magic mushrooms, Donald J. Trump....
anti cnn propaganda is at rise, because they dared to become honest and reveal things like LSD, magic mushrooms, Donald J. Trump....
19 December 2016 12:19
Margus Meigo commented on Justin Rolls's photo.
Interesting
19 December 2016 12:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
a bit to powerful for me, so it can not reach a soul, more of a calm sound 's guy,
but yes, these man's are masterpieces together
but yes, these man's are masterpieces together
17 December 2016 17:15
Margus Meigo commented on Radosław Michałowski's post.
Powerful
Power of Positivity
Power of Positivity
17 December 2016 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on Radosław Michałowski's post.
" E-la-gu " sounds like " Elagu " that is Estonian shout word " Be alive "
17 December 2016 17:13
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Piraatlust nad ju üritavad kuidagi seondada PIRAATIDE tegevusega, nagu neil oleks midagi seost,
oled sa näinud, et piraadid vallutasid mingi küla, ja siis kasvatasid teise inimese kartulist sinna kõrvale , kopeerides, teise maa lapi, kus topelt kartulit oli... ei.. nad võtsid mis võtta oli.. ainuke asim ida nad paljudasid olid naised keda nad vägistasid
seega ega sa piraatlust piraatidega ei seo?
oled sa näinud, et piraadid vallutasid mingi küla, ja siis kasvatasid teise inimese kartulist sinna kõrvale , kopeerides, teise maa lapi, kus topelt kartulit oli... ei.. nad võtsid mis võtta oli.. ainuke asim ida nad paljudasid olid naised keda nad vägistasid
seega ega sa piraatlust piraatidega ei seo?
17 December 2016 13:55
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Nii, aga SELGITA siis mmida see filosoofiliselt ja Reaalses maailmas tähendab, SELLES maailmas, kuidas ja mis moodi see inimkonnale haiget teeb
Minutist 11:
https://youtu.be/TtE--gj28_c?list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3&t=670
Minutist 11:
https://youtu.be/TtE--gj28_c?list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3&t=670
https://youtu.be/TtE--gj28_c?list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3&t=670
17 December 2016 13:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
links are on my wall as well17 December 2016 13:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
i uploaded in to this group but for some reason it is not showing up17 December 2016 13:49
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Fabian Society pole ka mingi eile sündinud inimeste tagasihoidlik orgsatsioon.
17 December 2016 13:14
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Kuigi oleme ausad, palju hullem kui olla purjus, on olla Liberaalse (kommunistilise, väärvasakulase, greeka-roomalise, homolise, satanistilise) maailmavaatega keda hääletamisele kaasa isegi rääkida lubatud on, kaudselt.
Ja eila raadios kleebiti IRL'ile ka "Liberaalsed väärtused" ja "liberaalsuse hoidmine ja arendamine" jms haiglast klge, ERRis ka veel, kuidas selline asi lubatud on, kas selle maa rahvas siis Päriselt ise lugenud ja aru saanud pole mida need sõnad kirjeldavad üld maailma poliitilises tähenduses ,
et kes need olid kes natse välja koolitasid eugeenika alal teadmistega mida nad marxsismi ja engelsi põhjal küpsetasid, iidsete rahvaste likvideerimiseks keda ei saa ideoloogiliselt väänata.
eks meie ka listis kuid kuna meid otseselt nottida ei ole viisakas siis kasutatakse muid mooduseid, ja seda tulemust vanemaid mitte armastavate laste järelkasvust juba näha..
Või kollidest rääkides, to Liberaalide viimane iidsete inimeste likvideerimise projekt Peruulastega, kus Peruu vanade tarkade seast valiti enamus inimesi välja ja nad sund steriliseeriti, viimane sats aasta 2000 kanti.
Sest liberaalid arvutasid välja, et majandusele nad kasuliku dpoel kui nad lipsu kandma ei kavatse hakata, seega, et majandust tõsta tuli planeerida hea tuleviku nimel iidsete peruulaste likvideerimine, kelle rahvalood nende eri käsitööde kaudu siiani säilinud on maainimeste vaenlaste rooma-greeka eelsetest aegadest... mõelda kui see interneti ajastul internetti imbuma hakkab, mida nad usuvad ja teavad, nii taimedest kui ka.. inimesest endast
Ja eila raadios kleebiti IRL'ile ka "Liberaalsed väärtused" ja "liberaalsuse hoidmine ja arendamine" jms haiglast klge, ERRis ka veel, kuidas selline asi lubatud on, kas selle maa rahvas siis Päriselt ise lugenud ja aru saanud pole mida need sõnad kirjeldavad üld maailma poliitilises tähenduses ,
et kes need olid kes natse välja koolitasid eugeenika alal teadmistega mida nad marxsismi ja engelsi põhjal küpsetasid, iidsete rahvaste likvideerimiseks keda ei saa ideoloogiliselt väänata.
eks meie ka listis kuid kuna meid otseselt nottida ei ole viisakas siis kasutatakse muid mooduseid, ja seda tulemust vanemaid mitte armastavate laste järelkasvust juba näha..
Või kollidest rääkides, to Liberaalide viimane iidsete inimeste likvideerimise projekt Peruulastega, kus Peruu vanade tarkade seast valiti enamus inimesi välja ja nad sund steriliseeriti, viimane sats aasta 2000 kanti.
Sest liberaalid arvutasid välja, et majandusele nad kasuliku dpoel kui nad lipsu kandma ei kavatse hakata, seega, et majandust tõsta tuli planeerida hea tuleviku nimel iidsete peruulaste likvideerimine, kelle rahvalood nende eri käsitööde kaudu siiani säilinud on maainimeste vaenlaste rooma-greeka eelsetest aegadest... mõelda kui see interneti ajastul internetti imbuma hakkab, mida nad usuvad ja teavad, nii taimedest kui ka.. inimesest endast
17 December 2016 13:11
Margus Meigo replied to Asja Iva's comment.
Okey aga aus olla siis on utoopiline ju midagi sellist öelda, et "suurosa seadusi...." pla pla,
mida me teame neist seadustest, mis suures osas vastuvõetud on +
mida me teame neist seadustest, mis suures osas vastuvõetud on +
17 December 2016 12:55
Margus Meigo replied to Rainer Vallask's comment.
Group: appi! mu arvuti on katki
nu jah, tal see mure, et ta ei saa isegi smartposti seda tuua, kodust välja, liikumist eriti pole17 December 2016 12:53
Margus Meigo replied to Lele Reinsoo's comment.
jätan meelde
17 December 2016 06:48
Margus Meigo commented on Ozan Yıldız's post.
Group: DoD News
it is a job
as scientist gotta do science
and painter keeps painting, for pleasure, fun, and for job17 December 2016 06:41
Margus Meigo commented on Ozan Yıldız's post.
Group: DoD News
and best is to leave the five-sided, pentagram behind, and join with humans who will stay17 December 2016 06:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
PS: your final surviving and selection will also be related to how you consume
17 December 2016 06:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
you can see from series, they want to say something top of what they say, but not sure how, but needed to get out there just in case
2 series before last one, was to warm up the mind to unexplained, and final was something of some kind of an idea, from where you can, but do not have to evolve
2 series before last one, was to warm up the mind to unexplained, and final was something of some kind of an idea, from where you can, but do not have to evolve
17 December 2016 06:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// well, so they used another poster in a season 10 not original
"The series attained a degree of historical importance, as well. On July 16, 2008, Carter and Spotnitz donated several props from the series and new film to the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History. Some of the items included the original pilot script and the "I Want to Believe" poster from Mulder's office."
https://web.archive.org/web/20110630182627/http://www.americanhistory.si.edu/news/pressrelease.cfm?key=29&newskey=729
"The series attained a degree of historical importance, as well. On July 16, 2008, Carter and Spotnitz donated several props from the series and new film to the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History. Some of the items included the original pilot script and the "I Want to Believe" poster from Mulder's office."
https://web.archive.org/web/20110630182627/http://www.americanhistory.si.edu/news/pressrelease.cfm?key=29&newskey=729
https://web.archive.org/web/20110630182627/http://www.americanhistory.si.edu/news/pressrelease.cfm?key=29&newskey=729
17 December 2016 06:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
in these days they put anything in to a movie, innit17 December 2016 04:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
showing the absurdity for trying to explain or tell these story's ,
these ppl are brilliant, specially after first 2 connected more serious hint stories
these ppl are brilliant, specially after first 2 connected more serious hint stories
17 December 2016 03:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Part 3, when they load down tension, is so cartoonishly funny, it makes actors them self-ongoing smile on their face, or maybe it is just cannabis. Well, that will still be same, reason for smiling.
But how else, show so ridiculous sounding stuff, ...does sound a bit like ERR 90's anniversary radio theatrical story, but newer the less, informative
But how else, show so ridiculous sounding stuff, ...does sound a bit like ERR 90's anniversary radio theatrical story, but newer the less, informative
17 December 2016 03:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Leib ei tee sinust filosooofi"
"Las ma mõtlen" (instead, ((on TV)
"Las ma mõtlen" (instead, ((on TV)
17 December 2016 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hey, real Rockstars does not ask FB'i help some might wonder, right
17 December 2016 02:45
Margus Meigo replied to Nuno Miguel Ferreira Ferreira's comment.
good one,
as it is actually, red pentagram magic.. also called communist magic
as it is actually, red pentagram magic.. also called communist magic
17 December 2016 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Amir want to send me to this interview when we talked about it... but glad he went
https://youtu.be/AU2a4AfleTE?list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3&t=453 (from 7:33)
Yes, it is not whole truth in between, but in the end it is more then needed
https://youtu.be/AU2a4AfleTE?list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3&t=453 (from 7:33)
Yes, it is not whole truth in between, but in the end it is more then needed
https://youtu.be/AU2a4AfleTE?list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3&t=453
17 December 2016 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on Rod Paez Davison's post.
Just let's wait when the Crypto Currency finally is allowed to set world upper class free,
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/2015/04/tatsuaki-okamoto.html
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/2015/04/tatsuaki-okamoto.html
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/2015/04/tatsuaki-okamoto.html
17 December 2016 02:31
Margus Meigo commented on Rod Paez Davison's post.
I can just stay up front, without mentioning forbidden fruit, that they will not be, IBM should be by 2050
Samsung Soul is also good, as was Yahoos, but they need a bit more protection, Microsoft will stay forever.
Samsung Soul is also good, as was Yahoos, but they need a bit more protection, Microsoft will stay forever.
17 December 2016 02:29
Margus Meigo commented on Rod Paez Davison's post.
a lot of good things happened on m83 besides me, with me : )
17 December 2016 02:26
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
neli ja 2 ja null, pull pull pull pull pull... : ))
17 December 2016 02:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
more deeper then this, much more ... no need to downplay opponent with just obvious tools that is used but also, admit, that most of us wear a tie and is thinking based on education their masters made, for controlling by limiting our average thought capability in linear training :
https://ccdcoe.org/cycon/agenda%3Fday=2.html
uuh.. but how to think if not as Greek and Romans told us, You ask?
Well, start from a Hebrew thought for a starters, might end up in Estonia thought by the end of Realization, as well.
Not so far a part, more near.. just more real..
https://ccdcoe.org/cycon/agenda%3Fday=2.html
uuh.. but how to think if not as Greek and Romans told us, You ask?
Well, start from a Hebrew thought for a starters, might end up in Estonia thought by the end of Realization, as well.
Not so far a part, more near.. just more real..
https://ccdcoe.org/cycon/agenda%3Fday=2.html
17 December 2016 02:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but still... why afraid to go deeper, and admit, the might of in what we actually are ?
17 December 2016 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Let's Not imagine Russia to be so Small, only, mmkay:
And from Toomas Hendrik Ilves page:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/russia-hack-election-dnc.html
most common mistake ppl do, imagining other sizes by the comparing size they are imagining, or know to be them self... but really, is it worth it, to measure any other way then max, and then by max make a plan, that would work, in any dimension that it is inside the "imagination" and everything that is out, is more likelly on Your own side anyway, or some thingy not need to mess with, jet, for sure, so... take it easy, and bigger, to be safer
And from Toomas Hendrik Ilves page:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/russia-hack-election-dnc.html
most common mistake ppl do, imagining other sizes by the comparing size they are imagining, or know to be them self... but really, is it worth it, to measure any other way then max, and then by max make a plan, that would work, in any dimension that it is inside the "imagination" and everything that is out, is more likelly on Your own side anyway, or some thingy not need to mess with, jet, for sure, so... take it easy, and bigger, to be safer
17 December 2016 02:14
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
peasi, et pulli saab
17 December 2016 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
why are people even do these things, like telling
"Maybe they know something we do not" .. talking about HIGHEST level of known public gov agencies .... MAYBE ?
Like are you serious,
even We know something We not know
"Maybe they know something we do not" .. talking about HIGHEST level of known public gov agencies .... MAYBE ?
Like are you serious,
even We know something We not know
17 December 2016 01:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So only thing You have to now figure out, does Paul work with communists, or with Canadian psychological warfare department in support of USA to keep communist away or.. is he brainwashed or is there a dimensions in where he makes sense, ... well.. but did You notice, on minute 7, he is telling more the same that x-files repeated in new series.. but adding some human touch to it also, for a reason, ... so our mind would be able to build a bridge between new concepts, so our thoughts, who are kind of like strings, would not break and would feed in to enough high understandings to cook the connections in to knowledge and materialize
they talk about fly object, we talk about much more true, real life meetings, (does not matter, if it can be imitated in a mind, with synthetics memory or deliriums, not to confuse with halluciNations )
(and in the end of video..) kind of getting bored and bored from all these "are we alone" and "theory.." wonderers, more need the ones, who know Bible and know what to do, what we want to do
they talk about fly object, we talk about much more true, real life meetings, (does not matter, if it can be imitated in a mind, with synthetics memory or deliriums, not to confuse with halluciNations )
(and in the end of video..) kind of getting bored and bored from all these "are we alone" and "theory.." wonderers, more need the ones, who know Bible and know what to do, what we want to do
17 December 2016 01:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kind of pisses You off also, right, when videos are still labeled as BELIVER
instead of a KNOWER , innit?
Wish to get to see some others, besides who i know, personally, post about what they Know ...
(and when keeping these things in mind, also remember pentagram, and ... well, just remember this and Roman Empire and Norway, for starters. If You get Really smart, then You can also look in to "Rauaneedmine" but ..hey that looks to primitive innit .. )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt1WVeyMqdo
instead of a KNOWER , innit?
Wish to get to see some others, besides who i know, personally, post about what they Know ...
(and when keeping these things in mind, also remember pentagram, and ... well, just remember this and Roman Empire and Norway, for starters. If You get Really smart, then You can also look in to "Rauaneedmine" but ..hey that looks to primitive innit .. )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt1WVeyMqdo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt1WVeyMqdo
17 December 2016 01:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
What is creepy, is
How the TV show people ask nearly identical sentences...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsQ1cFjnlzw
How the TV show people ask nearly identical sentences...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsQ1cFjnlzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsQ1cFjnlzw
17 December 2016 01:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lol, ... these people, who comment in the end of video, sorry, for Captain Obvious , .. just give a man a credit to tell few different levels so humanly everything that is needed, including laughing off the subject in good manner
give man some credit,
whatever one say's .. still not good enough for You?
give man some credit,
whatever one say's .. still not good enough for You?
17 December 2016 01:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" ..Let me not pray to be sheltered from dangers
but to be fearless in facing them.
Let me not beg for the stilling of my pain
but for the heart to conquer it.
Let me not look for allies in life's battlefield
but to my own strength.
Let me not crave in anxious fear to be saved
but hope for the patience to win my freedom.
Grant that I may not be a coward,
feeling Your mercy in my success alone;
But let me find the the grasp of Your hand in my failure.
- Rabindranath Tagore "
http://runesoup.com/2012/11/demography-is-destiny/
but to be fearless in facing them.
Let me not beg for the stilling of my pain
but for the heart to conquer it.
Let me not look for allies in life's battlefield
but to my own strength.
Let me not crave in anxious fear to be saved
but hope for the patience to win my freedom.
Grant that I may not be a coward,
feeling Your mercy in my success alone;
But let me find the the grasp of Your hand in my failure.
- Rabindranath Tagore "
http://runesoup.com/2012/11/demography-is-destiny/
http://runesoup.com/2012/11/demography-is-destiny/
17 December 2016 01:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So yes
man, love that guy, smooth like Good chocolate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVZkZqSVbtE
man, love that guy, smooth like Good chocolate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVZkZqSVbtE
17 December 2016 01:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Really, nobody?
"..And then there was the temple at Deir el-Bahri, Hatchepsut's mortuary temple, called Djeser-Djeseru: 'Holy of Holies' � 'beyond doubt one of the most beautiful buildings in the world,' and generally recognized as such. 'It is built at the base of the rugged Theban cliffs [on the west bank of the Nile], and commands the plain in magnificent fashion: its white colonnades rising, terrace above terrace, until it is backed by the golden living rock. The ivory white walls of courts, side chambers and colonnades, have polished surfaces which give an alabaster-like effect. They are carved with a fine art, figures and hieroglyphs being filled in with rich yellow colour, the glow of which against the whites gives an effect of warmth and beauty quite indescribable.18 (J.R. Buttles).
Although the architect of Djeser-Djeseru seems to have been Hapuseneb, the supervisor and creator of the masterwork was Senenmut, the famous assistant of Hatchepsut, acting on her direct inspiration. 'I was the greatest of the great in the whole land,' say the hieroglyphs in Senenmut's tomb. 'I was guardian of the secrets of the King [i.e. Hatchepsut] in all his places: a privy councillor on the Sovereign's right hand, secure in favour and given audience alone. I was one upon whose utterances his Lord relied, with whose advice the Mistress,of the Two Lands was satisfied, and the heart of the Divine Consort was completely filled.'19 It is interesting to note how Hatchepsut had picked out a whole team of
Page-387
able collaborators to run the kingdom. Senenmut, her assistant, architect Hapuseneb, Chancellor Neshi, leader of the expedition to Punt, the Treasurer Tuthmosis, Useramen the vizier, Amenhotep the chief steward, Inebni, Viceroy of Kush, and others. Again one is reminded of Elizabeth I of England and her court. The Mother would probably have said that this group of outstanding collaborators belonged to 'the family.'
The reign of the extraordinary Queen Hatchepsut was a period of peace, prosperity and stabilization.
It was the basis upon which Thutmosis III, when he finally became Pharaoh in his own right, expanded the kingdom. He became known as 'the Egyptian Napoleon' and waged no less than seventeen victorious campaigns. Hatchepsut's work in reviving the prosperity of the land would render Tiy and Akhenaton's astounding reformation possible. Who has hacked away her effigies and the cartouches containing her royal name? Nobody can tell with any certainty. ..."
// really, nobody? Why would anyone write in this way_?
must be "ilmalik" to write so.
http://motherandsriaurobindo.in/_StaticContent/SriAurobindoAshram/-09%20E-Library/-07%20Authors%20from%20Auroville/Georges%20van%20Vrekhem/-01%20English/The%20Mother%20-%20The%20Story%20of%20Her%20Life/-070_King%20Hatchepsut.htm?IsHostedInContentPage=1
"..And then there was the temple at Deir el-Bahri, Hatchepsut's mortuary temple, called Djeser-Djeseru: 'Holy of Holies' � 'beyond doubt one of the most beautiful buildings in the world,' and generally recognized as such. 'It is built at the base of the rugged Theban cliffs [on the west bank of the Nile], and commands the plain in magnificent fashion: its white colonnades rising, terrace above terrace, until it is backed by the golden living rock. The ivory white walls of courts, side chambers and colonnades, have polished surfaces which give an alabaster-like effect. They are carved with a fine art, figures and hieroglyphs being filled in with rich yellow colour, the glow of which against the whites gives an effect of warmth and beauty quite indescribable.18 (J.R. Buttles).
Although the architect of Djeser-Djeseru seems to have been Hapuseneb, the supervisor and creator of the masterwork was Senenmut, the famous assistant of Hatchepsut, acting on her direct inspiration. 'I was the greatest of the great in the whole land,' say the hieroglyphs in Senenmut's tomb. 'I was guardian of the secrets of the King [i.e. Hatchepsut] in all his places: a privy councillor on the Sovereign's right hand, secure in favour and given audience alone. I was one upon whose utterances his Lord relied, with whose advice the Mistress,of the Two Lands was satisfied, and the heart of the Divine Consort was completely filled.'19 It is interesting to note how Hatchepsut had picked out a whole team of
Page-387
able collaborators to run the kingdom. Senenmut, her assistant, architect Hapuseneb, Chancellor Neshi, leader of the expedition to Punt, the Treasurer Tuthmosis, Useramen the vizier, Amenhotep the chief steward, Inebni, Viceroy of Kush, and others. Again one is reminded of Elizabeth I of England and her court. The Mother would probably have said that this group of outstanding collaborators belonged to 'the family.'
The reign of the extraordinary Queen Hatchepsut was a period of peace, prosperity and stabilization.
It was the basis upon which Thutmosis III, when he finally became Pharaoh in his own right, expanded the kingdom. He became known as 'the Egyptian Napoleon' and waged no less than seventeen victorious campaigns. Hatchepsut's work in reviving the prosperity of the land would render Tiy and Akhenaton's astounding reformation possible. Who has hacked away her effigies and the cartouches containing her royal name? Nobody can tell with any certainty. ..."
// really, nobody? Why would anyone write in this way_?
must be "ilmalik" to write so.
http://motherandsriaurobindo.in/_StaticContent/SriAurobindoAshram/-09%20E-Library/-07%20Authors%20from%20Auroville/Georges%20van%20Vrekhem/-01%20English/The%20Mother%20-%20The%20Story%20of%20Her%20Life/-070_King%20Hatchepsut.htm?IsHostedInContentPage=1
17 December 2016 01:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Not so secret really:
"The Toltec Secret : Dreaming Practices of the Ancient Mexicans (Hay House). A famous Mexican healer, teacher and modern day messenger of this secret knowledge, Magana reveals powerful practices and rituals passed down from the ancient Tol lineage, which was once only shared from master to student for 1464 years following the legacy of the Cuauhtemoc (the last ruler of the Aztec Empire). According to Sergio, “The real treasure of the Aztec was this hidden wisdom, not gold.” Now as prophesized, these teachings are being shared to empower everyone to become a Mexhica—Dreamer. ..."
http://omtimes.com/2014/11/sergio-magana/2/
"The Toltec Secret : Dreaming Practices of the Ancient Mexicans (Hay House). A famous Mexican healer, teacher and modern day messenger of this secret knowledge, Magana reveals powerful practices and rituals passed down from the ancient Tol lineage, which was once only shared from master to student for 1464 years following the legacy of the Cuauhtemoc (the last ruler of the Aztec Empire). According to Sergio, “The real treasure of the Aztec was this hidden wisdom, not gold.” Now as prophesized, these teachings are being shared to empower everyone to become a Mexhica—Dreamer. ..."
http://omtimes.com/2014/11/sergio-magana/2/
http://omtimes.com/2014/11/sergio-magana/2/
17 December 2016 01:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Scroll to the end of page to read all color headlines, more, about for what attempt is made,
https://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2016/03/20/carefully-hidden-things-you-should-know-about-most-everything-you-have-been-told-is-a-lie-lost-city-of-the-grand-canyon/
Fast information scanners, you are blessed to no need reading it all, but these who can read, are blessed also, as long you keep in mind, what is Your purpose, and knowing what as it all to do with shamans, and what has Russians (Roman Empire and Wikings Co.) to do with shamans besides systematically eliminating them ... but how and why.. and still.. Who really..
https://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2016/03/20/carefully-hidden-things-you-should-know-about-most-everything-you-have-been-told-is-a-lie-lost-city-of-the-grand-canyon/
Fast information scanners, you are blessed to no need reading it all, but these who can read, are blessed also, as long you keep in mind, what is Your purpose, and knowing what as it all to do with shamans, and what has Russians (Roman Empire and Wikings Co.) to do with shamans besides systematically eliminating them ... but how and why.. and still.. Who really..
https://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2016/03/20/carefully-hidden-things-you-should-know-about-most-everything-you-have-been-told-is-a-lie-lost-city-of-the-grand-canyon/
17 December 2016 01:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And as Estonians, we know long time ago, that Everything is Russian and invented by Russian, in all directions of time, eventually, ironically,
" SCOTTS AND SAXONS ARE RUSSIANS-
The Magen David Is Russian!
JEWISH KABBALAH IS THE DEGENERATION OF THE RUSSIAN-ANCIENT WISDOM
Russian language is partially Sanskrit.
Kabbalistic numerology is the most primitive way of interpreting the ancient Russian-Aryan science of language. Russian-Aryan science of language was not simply about the numerical value of letters. It was about the hieroglyphic recording of the information-wave crystals / codes.
HEXAGRAM OF MAGEN DAVID DOES NOT BELONG TO THE JEWS
JOINT INFORMATION-WAVE FIELD OF THE PLANET IS A NECESSARY CONDITION FOR THE QUANTUM LEAP
Our Russian-Aryan ancestors never engaged in ethnical cleansing and cultural genocide, since we, Russian-Aryans, always lived according to the Law of Karma. Our Russian-Aryan ancestors tried to raise primitive tribes to the higher level of culture, since the joint information-wave field of the planet Earth (“Noosphere” by Vladimir Vernadsky) was important for everybody living in this dimension, and especially for operating Quantum technologies.
https://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2016/03/19/scotts-and-saxons-are-russians-the-magen-david-is-russian/
" SCOTTS AND SAXONS ARE RUSSIANS-
The Magen David Is Russian!
JEWISH KABBALAH IS THE DEGENERATION OF THE RUSSIAN-ANCIENT WISDOM
Russian language is partially Sanskrit.
Kabbalistic numerology is the most primitive way of interpreting the ancient Russian-Aryan science of language. Russian-Aryan science of language was not simply about the numerical value of letters. It was about the hieroglyphic recording of the information-wave crystals / codes.
HEXAGRAM OF MAGEN DAVID DOES NOT BELONG TO THE JEWS
JOINT INFORMATION-WAVE FIELD OF THE PLANET IS A NECESSARY CONDITION FOR THE QUANTUM LEAP
Our Russian-Aryan ancestors never engaged in ethnical cleansing and cultural genocide, since we, Russian-Aryans, always lived according to the Law of Karma. Our Russian-Aryan ancestors tried to raise primitive tribes to the higher level of culture, since the joint information-wave field of the planet Earth (“Noosphere” by Vladimir Vernadsky) was important for everybody living in this dimension, and especially for operating Quantum technologies.
https://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2016/03/19/scotts-and-saxons-are-russians-the-magen-david-is-russian/
https://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2016/03/19/scotts-and-saxons-are-russians-the-magen-david-is-russian/
17 December 2016 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And please, do not be so dramatic, if not know, Really why or or even how:
"Gnosis is knowledge, not memorised facts but knowledge as understanding of who we are, our consciousness and spiritual purpose. We are recollecting the fragmentation of ourselves. We are one, yet are unable to see that, except in moments of spiritual clarity. Our spiritual being has been hijacked. Striving for gnostic perception is our only route to salvation."
http://tapnewswire.com/2016/03/you-should-see-myth-as-history-and-history-as-myth-gnosticism-explained/
"Gnosis is knowledge, not memorised facts but knowledge as understanding of who we are, our consciousness and spiritual purpose. We are recollecting the fragmentation of ourselves. We are one, yet are unable to see that, except in moments of spiritual clarity. Our spiritual being has been hijacked. Striving for gnostic perception is our only route to salvation."
http://tapnewswire.com/2016/03/you-should-see-myth-as-history-and-history-as-myth-gnosticism-explained/
http://tapnewswire.com/2016/03/you-should-see-myth-as-history-and-history-as-myth-gnosticism-explained/
17 December 2016 01:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
For who do not know the serial:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106179/episodes?year=2016&ref_=tt_eps_yr_2016
Interesting also, that:
Domain Name: MINDQUAD.ORG
Domain ID: D158639871-LROR
Updated Date: 2016-02-16T10:06:51Z
Creation Date: 2010-03-19T15:47:54Z
Registrant Email: domains@fox.com
Admin ID: mmr-75839
Admin Name: Intellectual Property Department
Admin Organization: Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation
Hmm.. 2010..
what is interesting about that?
nooothing.. will tell ya later
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106179/episodes?year=2016&ref_=tt_eps_yr_2016
Interesting also, that:
Domain Name: MINDQUAD.ORG
Domain ID: D158639871-LROR
Updated Date: 2016-02-16T10:06:51Z
Creation Date: 2010-03-19T15:47:54Z
Registrant Email: domains@fox.com
Admin ID: mmr-75839
Admin Name: Intellectual Property Department
Admin Organization: Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation
Hmm.. 2010..
what is interesting about that?
nooothing.. will tell ya later
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106179/episodes?year=2016&ref_=tt_eps_yr_2016
17 December 2016 01:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Between confusion, some reading on these forums, not in importance true order for now:
http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/archive/index.php/t-3378.html
http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/archive/index.php/t-3378.html
http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/archive/index.php/t-3378.html
17 December 2016 01:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
They really use a lot of this what was planned in me, showing in movie a movies or media, that it self is connected to information and real information that will not be needed to be told out loud
and for these, who can read between the lines,
i can say: focus to the lines at first
and for these, who can read between the lines,
i can say: focus to the lines at first
17 December 2016 00:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Vaat kui raske ülesanne oli neil mõelda välja, kas see Pulli silt teha suu augu poole, et endal ilus juua oleks või, teiste poole, kui käes hoiad, et teistel ilus oleks (ja reklaamiks)
17 December 2016 00:28
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Kayanja Ministries's live video.
It is amazing sometimes what is available, if you are able to understand fast about World , Books:
https://books.google.ee/books?id=yWBhI3wKUSwC&pg=PR13&lpg=PR13&dq=%22Meeting+with+the+Ancient+Teachers+of+Mankind%22&source=bl&ots=uW0B9qKm5w&sig=wMGY7-Feu6kWUw3FeVnOZ0a9eR8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiMw-XXmPnQAhWDXiwKHZZhBgAQ6AEITDAI#v=onepage&q=%22Meeting%20with%20the%20Ancient%20Teachers%20of%20Mankind%22&f=false
https://books.google.ee/books?id=yWBhI3wKUSwC&pg=PR13&lpg=PR13&dq=%22Meeting+with+the+Ancient+Teachers+of+Mankind%22&source=bl&ots=uW0B9qKm5w&sig=wMGY7-Feu6kWUw3FeVnOZ0a9eR8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiMw-XXmPnQAhWDXiwKHZZhBgAQ6AEITDAI#v=onepage&q=%22Meeting%20with%20the%20Ancient%20Teachers%20of%20Mankind%22&f=false
https://books.google.ee/books?id=yWBhI3wKUSwC&pg=PR13&lpg=PR13&dq=%22Meeting+with+the+Ancient+Teachers+of+Mankind%22&source=bl&ots=uW0B9qKm5w&sig=wMGY7-Feu6kWUw3FeVnOZ0a9eR8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiMw-XXmPnQAhWDXiwKHZZhBgAQ6AEITDAI#v=onepage&q=%22Meeting%20with%20the%20Ancient%20Teachers%20of%20Mankind%22&f=false
17 December 2016 00:04
Margus Meigo commented on Khairi Didi Omar's post.
https://www.facebook.com/diintenuwaanasteexo/videos/1052917654817068/
16 December 2016 23:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and these Thailand girls are stil dancing : https://www.facebook.com/100008289971440/videos/1891173994502248/
Not to confuse with these ..g.g...girls, as they not so girls as they seem to be:
https://www.facebook.com/angiilovetom.apple/videos/1829120657359036/
.. remember fooled me once in Thailand..
Not to confuse with these ..g.g...girls, as they not so girls as they seem to be:
https://www.facebook.com/angiilovetom.apple/videos/1829120657359036/
.. remember fooled me once in Thailand..
16 December 2016 23:56
Margus Meigo commented on قناة الجزيرة مباشر - Aljazeera Mubasher Channel's live video.
All the best for You to :)
16 December 2016 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Kayanja Ministries's live video.
On Our name
16 December 2016 23:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Or You can lissten pastor Robert from uganda
seriouslly, this is something to see
https://www.facebook.com/PastorRobertKayanja.MiracleCentreOfficialPage/videos/10154852533937386/
seriouslly, this is something to see
https://www.facebook.com/PastorRobertKayanja.MiracleCentreOfficialPage/videos/10154852533937386/
16 December 2016 23:53
Margus Meigo commented on Gogaggg.com's live video.
Christmas You 2
16 December 2016 23:51
Margus Meigo commented on Zeeshan Ali Janu's live video.
Good Night
16 December 2016 23:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Or You can get this great islam updates, from Norway:
https://www.facebook.com/diintenuwaanasteexo/videos/1052917654817068/
https://www.facebook.com/diintenuwaanasteexo/videos/1052917654817068/
16 December 2016 23:45
Margus Meigo commented on SKY Радио's live video.
Priveto Priveto : )
16 December 2016 23:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
like DJ's at live from Chile https://www.facebook.com/redbullthre3style/videos/1334759633235430/
16 December 2016 23:37
Margus Meigo commented on Delayna Faith's post.
yea, this is called normal
16 December 2016 23:34
Margus Meigo commented on Matt Owen's live video.
You Doing good man.)
16 December 2016 23:32
Margus Meigo commented on พัชรี ปราบชัย's live video.
Interesting.. :)
16 December 2016 23:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More live videos:
https://www.facebook.com/livemap/?ref=endscreen#@59.44628143310501,24.879398345946985,4z
https://www.facebook.com/livemap/?ref=endscreen#@59.44628143310501,24.879398345946985,4z
16 December 2016 23:08
Margus Meigo commented on Ozan Yıldız's post.
Group: DoD News
He is afraid to thank God, innit?
"For that i thank American people and.. um.."16 December 2016 23:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
16 December 2016 22:48
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
https://www.facebook.com/WhiteHouse/videos/10155046919724238/
16 December 2016 22:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Talking about internet propaganda and bloodstream or something:
https://www.facebook.com/WhiteHouse/videos/10155046919724238/
https://www.facebook.com/WhiteHouse/videos/10155046919724238/
16 December 2016 22:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: appi! mu arvuti on katki
aga miskit itimeest siis pole, kes sutsu altuurat teha saaks?16 December 2016 21:44
Margus Meigo replied to Rainer Vallask's comment.
Group: appi! mu arvuti on katki
aga seda teeks jah, kui sisse saaks16 December 2016 21:43
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Tšekenjuk's post.
:D
16 December 2016 21:01
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Tšekenjuk's post.
Good one!
16 December 2016 21:00
Margus Meigo commented on Anneli Reinsalu's photo.
näääh, ära siis lipsuga kohe inimest harjutamahakka, teine muidu hakkabki seda kandma kui suureks saab...
ikka eesti meest vaja ju mitte lipsumeest!:p
(väga timm elav poisiklutt kasvab sääl!)
ikka eesti meest vaja ju mitte lipsumeest!:p
(väga timm elav poisiklutt kasvab sääl!)
16 December 2016 20:28
Margus Meigo commented on Anneli Reinsalu's photo.
OiOi klassiõde, oioi
16 December 2016 20:27
Margus Meigo replied to Kristjan King's comment.
and honey
16 December 2016 19:58
Margus Meigo replied to Maritta Matsalu's comment.
hea, et mina ei suuda "whatever" öelda
16 December 2016 19:57
Margus Meigo replied to Kristjan King's comment.
Suuure
16 December 2016 19:52
Margus Meigo replied to Kristjan King's comment.
We all right
16 December 2016 19:51
Margus Meigo replied to Vicky Korju's comment.
Võib, aga soovitatud on mõelda enamasti ikka õiget moodi, ja paremat ja kasulikumat moodi. Ilusamini ja asjalikumalt, mõistlikumalt ja praktilisemalt isegi... kuid mis moodi Sa mõtlesiti , et ilma norimiseta, et ole hea selgita suts lahti
16 December 2016 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Muidugi, ikkagi Saku mees,
Ehtne ja hea
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=643335872474650&set=a.323791091095798.1073741825.100003947307453er
Ehtne ja hea
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=643335872474650&set=a.323791091095798.1073741825.100003947307453er
16 December 2016 18:18
Margus Meigo replied to Vicky Korju's comment.
Oota kuidas Sa seda mõtlesid Vicky?
Ikka sedasi, et Eestlased solvavad oma riiki ise rohkem kui keegi välisluure seda teha jõuaks, et midagi sellist ka mõtlesid ?
Minu jaoks on iga juuatäis suitsetav eestlane või muidu valitsust kiruv Eestlane meie kodumaa vähk
Ikka sedasi, et Eestlased solvavad oma riiki ise rohkem kui keegi välisluure seda teha jõuaks, et midagi sellist ka mõtlesid ?
Minu jaoks on iga juuatäis suitsetav eestlane või muidu valitsust kiruv Eestlane meie kodumaa vähk
16 December 2016 18:17
Margus Meigo replied to Rein Vanja's comment.
Tarmo, see kõlas kui väga mitme tahuline nali, neegrid, aborigeenid, eestlased, venelased kõik ühes koos... usun, et see jääb ajaloo arhiivi
16 December 2016 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Ei nu kui hind on hea ja finantsi on siis no miks mitte
16 December 2016 18:12
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
oh need viisnurgad tagataustal rsk
16 December 2016 18:11
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Oeh.. kui inimesed juba aru saama hakkaks mis rahad rohkem ja rohkem virtuaal, krüptoraha teedpidi tänapäeval juba liiguvad.. ja liikuma hakkavad...
16 December 2016 18:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui muid andmeid ei julgeta avaldada, siis need avalikud asjad vähemalt võiks...
lisaks see ülbe eesti lipuga vehkimine ja võltsilt Puutini solvaminine, mis venemahuumoris tähendas irooniat EESTALSTE VASTU, näidates millised kõhnad lipsus ärplejad Eestlased on...
See slaavi võim on väheseid kes õppinud kunsti ära kuidas iseendaga sind halvustada
lisaks see ülbe eesti lipuga vehkimine ja võltsilt Puutini solvaminine, mis venemahuumoris tähendas irooniat EESTALSTE VASTU, näidates millised kõhnad lipsus ärplejad Eestlased on...
See slaavi võim on väheseid kes õppinud kunsti ära kuidas iseendaga sind halvustada
16 December 2016 18:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nad nagu unustanud kes helistas kaposse ja lubas kuvaldaga Lihula sama puruks ise peksta (et tekitada, eesti-vene vahelist vihavaenu) kui seda politsei ära viimaei hakka (tekitades riigi-eestlaste vahelist vaenu) ?
16 December 2016 18:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Jeerum, kas see ENDISELT .. oot kas PÄRISELT ei ole siis siiani ükski luureametnik julgenud lekitada, Jevgeeni poisi TEGELIKKU tööd?
Kui kaua see jura käib,
Kui kaua see jura käib,
16 December 2016 18:04
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Viimase ERR õuduskuuldemängu sarja sõnul, olevat Eetika nõunik viimane kes ERRis koos hiina toimetusega töötas, sest unustati koondada ja arvutite vastu vahetada (ERR uudised 90 aastapäeva kuuldemängu 5's osa)
16 December 2016 18:02
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Milling's photo.
Muidugi suts irooniline see tänaste uudistega kooskõlas kuna Saku ennast enamuste meeles koha nime asemel hoopis märjukeseks me teadvuses moonutanud
16 December 2016 17:59
Margus Meigo replied to Vicky Korju's comment.
tema on praegu see, kes riigi solvamise maigu, ja riigisüsteemi mahategemise maigu on ju jätnud
16 December 2016 17:01
Margus Meigo replied to Vicky Korju's comment.
kah õige,
kuid las mees siis selgitab juurde, et mis mure on
kuid las mees siis selgitab juurde, et mis mure on
16 December 2016 17:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: appi! mu arvuti on katki
Ühesõnaga oleks soovi, et keegi ehk Nv saab vana juurest läbi käia, 15-25 ehk isegi.. kes kui odavalt saab mure lahendada, muud mure pole kui see mis kirjeldatud.16 December 2016 15:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: appi! mu arvuti on katki
Akadeemia tee 141-1 muidu.
Win 7 installitud, aktiviseeritud kuidagi, uuendusega aktiv. kadus, kuid uuesti installides, Daz loader arvas, nagu aru sain üle neti, et arvuti on uefi biosiga või siis ebastandardse boot sektoriga, seega oli neil vaja see menüü tekitada, millest aga nagu selgub, arvuti edasi ei soovi bootida,
tavapärane viga, Win 7 CD iga ja käsureaga peaks kiiresti korda saama.16 December 2016 15:32
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
on küll jah,
aga mis need asjad on ?
Ei nu reaalselt, meeldib näha inimese selgitust lühidalt ja selgelt, või pikalt ja arukalt
aga mis need asjad on ?
Ei nu reaalselt, meeldib näha inimese selgitust lühidalt ja selgelt, või pikalt ja arukalt
16 December 2016 15:23
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
mure jah et ma pole ju linnas, vaja oleks kohalike käsi selles kohas
16 December 2016 15:22
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
kindel see
16 December 2016 14:39
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Eks siis rohkem julgust igast nuppe vajutada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJDGcxAf9D8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJDGcxAf9D8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJDGcxAf9D8
16 December 2016 14:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Samal teemal:
https://www.facebook.com/tarmo.kruusimae/posts/1264753773589766?notif_t=notify_me¬if_id=1481878568513966
https://www.facebook.com/tarmo.kruusimae/posts/1264753773589766?notif_t=notify_me¬if_id=1481878568513966
16 December 2016 11:45
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Võimas,
Millal areng joomisest selle maa teadvuses edasi areneb..
Millal areng joomisest selle maa teadvuses edasi areneb..
16 December 2016 11:44
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
tavapärane on inimestel kõvasti peale teha ja siis palvetama hakata,
ei ole veel nänud et keegi suure klõmaka viina võtab, ja et ta siis polvili asuks kohe peale seda, suurest õnenst või arusaaamast..
no coinsidence here
ei ole veel nänud et keegi suure klõmaka viina võtab, ja et ta siis polvili asuks kohe peale seda, suurest õnenst või arusaaamast..
no coinsidence here
15 December 2016 23:56
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
eks tal füsiline võime ka muidugi, ega muidu to Jumala taim oleks
15 December 2016 23:55
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
nu see vähk ise niivõrd mitte kanep ei ravi kui see muutus mida ta meeleseisundis teeb inimestele, ja see eemaldab iniemse olukorrast mis temas vähki tekitaks,
nagu kibestus,viha, ärritus, häbi..
nagu kibestus,viha, ärritus, häbi..
15 December 2016 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Yahoo Asks Help
Help.ee
Help.ee
15 December 2016 23:53
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
nu kui inimesed toituvad ebatervest motlemisest siis see paratamnatu
15 December 2016 23:48
Margus Meigo commented on Mart Laanemäe's photo.
ulme :D
15 December 2016 23:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid muidu festivalidel kui vesi ligi ja ka soe ilm on ... miks mitte
15 December 2016 23:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ma inglismaal mosee ees ka tegin,
anarhistid vaikselt ka taganesid, et mulle toetust eemalt näidata
anarhistid vaikselt ka taganesid, et mulle toetust eemalt näidata
15 December 2016 23:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
alasti vette jooksmien avaliksu kohas, kes seda teinud poleks
15 December 2016 23:33
Margus Meigo replied to Dem Detectiveboy's comment.
if it is true what they say and how things should be then cancer is not dangerous at all but people it self-make it dangerous to them self, so people are the danger
probably i have to cure my cancer just for telling that
probably i have to cure my cancer just for telling that
15 December 2016 23:33
Margus Meigo commented on Avery Omameeleteadvus's post.
näeb välja nagu 1:1 mu õelaps enne kunagi
15 December 2016 23:28
Margus Meigo commented on Avery Omameeleteadvus's post.
:D
15 December 2016 23:25
Margus Meigo commented on Avery Omameeleteadvus's post.
in some other country you would have lost your phone right there,
and some other country, shoes as well
and some other country, shoes as well
15 December 2016 23:23
Margus Meigo commented on Avery Omameeleteadvus's post.
see on seadus, et inimkontakti ei tekiks, ära võta isiklikult
15 December 2016 23:20
Margus Meigo commented on Avery Omameeleteadvus's post.
okey thats messed up
15 December 2016 23:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
food and love
15 December 2016 23:16
Margus Meigo commented on Avery Omameeleteadvus's post.
there is only one cure for C: do not have it (by living proper)
15 December 2016 23:16
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Johannes Duuberg's comment.
aa oot, see on kõik kokku v?
15 December 2016 23:15
Margus Meigo commented on Avery Omameeleteadvus's post.
how much is everything minus pee in pool and regret,
if i would bee in a pool, then i would regret it, so... okey, now i remember, left my love, so how much is all minus 0.50 ?
really, did not bother to calculate.
nu ja kuidas te inglid 25 saite ainult
if i would bee in a pool, then i would regret it, so... okey, now i remember, left my love, so how much is all minus 0.50 ?
really, did not bother to calculate.
nu ja kuidas te inglid 25 saite ainult
15 December 2016 23:14
Margus Meigo replied to Kristjan King's comment.
sometimes fish becomes dead by staying out of flow.
15 December 2016 23:07
Margus Meigo commented on Avery Omameeleteadvus's post.
kind of like me answering to my 2 y old bd wishes, well, i at least hope i get them answered by next year
15 December 2016 23:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3oo360_veljo-tormis-raua-needmine-curse-upon-iron-1986_school
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3oo360_veljo-tormis-raua-needmine-curse-upon-iron-1986_school
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3oo360_veljo-tormis-raua-needmine-curse-upon-iron-1986_school
15 December 2016 19:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
João Mr. Mirage exactly, as you can see Nature can use and do all magic without math,
we just reading word By a math, and by it losing nearly whole point of it
we just reading word By a math, and by it losing nearly whole point of it
15 December 2016 18:31
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ega ma oma klientide tagamaid ei kurjusta senikaua kui päris kurja ei tehta.
15 December 2016 16:22
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja mis asi on kuritegu
15 December 2016 16:20
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
mis asi piraatlus on
15 December 2016 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Aaslo's post.
ilmalikudinimesed muidugi ei saa enamasti reaalselt aru vastase suurusest ja plaanist ja võimalusest neid enda kaitseks kasutada liberaalsuse eest, viisnurga eest
15 December 2016 12:04
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
ilmalikudinimesed muidugi ei saa enamasti reaalselt aru vastase suurusest ja plaanist ja võimalusest neid enda kaitseks kasutada liberaalsuse eest, viisnurga eest
15 December 2016 12:04
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
siin tuleb hoopis peenemalt ja targemalt toimetada, muidu saad mitmesaja aastase oma riigi vastase lahingu , väga hübriitse, võitmatu
Siin tuleb moshee ehitamine enda kätte võtta, ja puidust see teha
(aitab tuld otsa ka panna kui üle k'äte minnakse)
toda plaani ka noile endale rääkimas kaisin juba ammu,
mosee plaan meil endil juba aastatid tagasi oli, kuid selline mis õigete era/iidsete moslemite kaudu tehtud
Siin tuleb moshee ehitamine enda kätte võtta, ja puidust see teha
(aitab tuld otsa ka panna kui üle k'äte minnakse)
toda plaani ka noile endale rääkimas kaisin juba ammu,
mosee plaan meil endil juba aastatid tagasi oli, kuid selline mis õigete era/iidsete moslemite kaudu tehtud
15 December 2016 12:02
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Aaslo's post.
sellise suhtumisega kaugele ei jõua, siin tuleb hoopis peenemalt ja targemalt toimetada, muidu saad mitmesaja aastase oma riigi vastase lahingu , väga hübriitse, võitmatu
Siin tuleb moshee ehitamine enda kätte võtta, ja puidust see teha
(aitab tuld otsa ka panna kui üle k'äte minnakse)
toda plaani ka noile endale rääkimas kaisin juba ammu,
mosee plaan meil endil juba aastatid tagasi oli, kuid selline mis õigete era/iidsete moslemite kaudu tehtud
Siin tuleb moshee ehitamine enda kätte võtta, ja puidust see teha
(aitab tuld otsa ka panna kui üle k'äte minnakse)
toda plaani ka noile endale rääkimas kaisin juba ammu,
mosee plaan meil endil juba aastatid tagasi oli, kuid selline mis õigete era/iidsete moslemite kaudu tehtud
15 December 2016 12:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so Most vital and biggest human-related things ... math is near useless
14 December 2016 20:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
even memorys
14 December 2016 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on Sina Oled Äge's post.
he is wrong wit math, so deeply makes me cry,
tell me how much help u have fo feelings, dreams, psychedelic experience ...the math?
tell me how much help u have fo feelings, dreams, psychedelic experience ...the math?
14 December 2016 20:45
Margus Meigo replied to Margit Solo's comment.
Ootan jaa, Eks ta tuleb
14 December 2016 06:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Hoia aga ära hoia kinni"
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-game-over
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-11-aastat
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-palverannak
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-game-over
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-11-aastat
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-palverannak
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/pk-game-over
13 December 2016 12:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Täis link saatele:
Keskkonnaministeeriumi metsaosakonna juhataja RIINA MARTVERK, Tartu Ülikooli juhtivteadur ja loodusressursside õppetooli juhataja ASKO LÕHMUS, keskkonnaaktivist ZÜLEYXA IZMAILOVA.
ASKO LÕHMUS lõpetas hõbemedaliga Tartu 2. Keskkooli, oma teaduskraadid sai ta Tartu Ülikooli bioloogia-geograafiateaduskonnast: bioloogia bakalaureusekraadi, loomaökoloogia magistri- ja doktorikraadi. Täna on ta Tartu Ülikooli juhtivteadur, loodusressursside õppetooli juhataja ja looduskaitsebioloogia töörühma juht. Tema uurimisvaldkonda kuuluvad: evolutsiooniline looduskaitsebioloogia, metsaökoloogia, elurikkuse uurimise metoodika. Ta kuulus 2002-2003 keskkonnaministeeriumi teadusnõukogusse ning 2000-2003 ornitoloogiaühingu nõukogusse ja toimetas ka ornitoloogiaajakirja "Hirundo" ning on Kotkaklubi asutajaliige. Ta on osalenud Eesti punase raamatu, Eesti Metsanduse Arengukava, Eesti Looduskaitse Arengukava ja Eesti Säästva Metsanduse Standardi koostamisel. Ta on olnud ka Ida-Soome Ülikooli külalisprofessor (2011-2012), lisaks on ta alates 2012. aastast EV metsandusnõukogu liige, 2008. aastast Riigimetsa Majandamise Keskuse teadusnõukogu liige, 2007. aastast TÜ Ökoloogia ja Maateaduste Instituudi teadusnõukogu liige. Asko Lõhmus on pälvinud mitmeid teaduspreemiaid ja tunnustusi, mida näeb SIIT ja SIIT, kus on ka põhjalikum ülevaade tema teadustöödest.
RIINA MARTVERK lõpetas Haapsalu I keskkooli kuldmedaliga, Tartu Ülikoolist sai ta bakalaureusekraadi bioloogias. 1998. aastast töötas ta kaks aastat Metsaameti ökosüsteemide kaitse büroo peaspetsialistina, seejärel Keskkonnaministeeriumi metsaosakonnas peaspetsialistina metsade elurikkuse küsimustes. 2006. aastast Riikliku Looduskaitsekeskuse eluslooduse seire riiklikul ja regionaalsel tasandil koordineerimise peaspetsialistina ja aastal 2009 liikus ta Keskkonnaameti looduskaitse osakonda. Seejärel (2011-2014) töötas ta Riigimetsa Majandamise Keskuse (RMK) looduskaitseosakonnas looduskaitsespetsialistina ning alates 2014 juunist töötab Riina Martverk Keskkonnaministeeriumi metsaosakonna juhatajana. Ta on juhtinud ka mitmeid rahvusvahelisi projekte: Eesti –Taani ühisprojekt "Eesti metsakaitsealade võrgustik" (2000-2001) ja Eesti – Rootsi ühisprojekt "Vääriselupaikade inventeerimise programm" (1999-2003).
ZÜLEYXA IZMAILOVA sai Pirita Majandusgümnaasiumist põhihariduse, Tallinna Vanalinna Täiskasvanute Gümnaasiumist keskhariduse, aastal 2007 õppis ta Tallinna Tehnikaülikoolis geenitehnoloogiat, seejärel liikus aastal 2010 Tallinna Polütehnikumi õppima fotograafiat – fotograafina on ta tuntud peamiselt Zuzu Izmailova nime all. Ta on keskkonna-aktivist, ajakirjanik, vabakutseline fotograaf ja ema, kes peamiselt tegutseb rohelise ilmavaate ja jätkusuutliku arengu edendajana. Ta on ka MTÜ Noored Rohelised eestvedaja ja vabatahtlik keskkonnaorganisatsioonis Eesti Roheline Liikumine. Tema põhiteemadeks on üleminek taastuvenergiale, divestment, rohekasv, ühistuline tegevus, mahetoit ja loomade õigused. Zuzu eesmärkideks on päästa lendorav väljasuremisest ja teha Eestist tõeline Ökoriik. Ajakiri Anne&Stiil tunnustas äsja Züleyxa Izmailova töid ja tegemisi tiitliga Aasta Naine 2016.
Saates selgub:
Miks on mets meile nii oluline?
Mida tähendavad uue metsaseaduse muudatused meie metsadele?
Kuidas hoiab Keskkonnaministeerium tasakaalu metsamajanduse ja looduskaitse vahel?
Mida tähendab üleküpsenud mets ja säilikpuud?
Kui mõttekas on puit taastuvenergia allikana?
Mida võtab riik ette hiite säilitamiseks?
Uuri lisa:
Eesti Vabariigi metsanduspoliitika kohta https://www.riigiteataja.ee/akt/73663 ja Keskkonnaministeeriumi kodulehelt envir.ee
Eesti metsanduse põhiprobleemide kohta lehelt http://metsakaitseks.voog.com/
Petitsiooni "Peatame Eesti metsa hävitamise suurtöösturite poolt" kohta http://petitsioon.ee/eestimetsaeest
Reedel, 16. detsembril kell 13 Tallinnas toimuva meeleavalduse "Kodanikud aktiveeruvad Eesti metsa kaitseks" kohta facebookist
http://r2.err.ee/v/hallokosmos/saated/f72a5f3e-4c7f-4542-a230-0fdcd5a7374e/hallo-kosmos-286-meie-mets-asko-lohmus-riina-martverk-zuleyxa-izmailova
Keskkonnaministeeriumi metsaosakonna juhataja RIINA MARTVERK, Tartu Ülikooli juhtivteadur ja loodusressursside õppetooli juhataja ASKO LÕHMUS, keskkonnaaktivist ZÜLEYXA IZMAILOVA.
ASKO LÕHMUS lõpetas hõbemedaliga Tartu 2. Keskkooli, oma teaduskraadid sai ta Tartu Ülikooli bioloogia-geograafiateaduskonnast: bioloogia bakalaureusekraadi, loomaökoloogia magistri- ja doktorikraadi. Täna on ta Tartu Ülikooli juhtivteadur, loodusressursside õppetooli juhataja ja looduskaitsebioloogia töörühma juht. Tema uurimisvaldkonda kuuluvad: evolutsiooniline looduskaitsebioloogia, metsaökoloogia, elurikkuse uurimise metoodika. Ta kuulus 2002-2003 keskkonnaministeeriumi teadusnõukogusse ning 2000-2003 ornitoloogiaühingu nõukogusse ja toimetas ka ornitoloogiaajakirja "Hirundo" ning on Kotkaklubi asutajaliige. Ta on osalenud Eesti punase raamatu, Eesti Metsanduse Arengukava, Eesti Looduskaitse Arengukava ja Eesti Säästva Metsanduse Standardi koostamisel. Ta on olnud ka Ida-Soome Ülikooli külalisprofessor (2011-2012), lisaks on ta alates 2012. aastast EV metsandusnõukogu liige, 2008. aastast Riigimetsa Majandamise Keskuse teadusnõukogu liige, 2007. aastast TÜ Ökoloogia ja Maateaduste Instituudi teadusnõukogu liige. Asko Lõhmus on pälvinud mitmeid teaduspreemiaid ja tunnustusi, mida näeb SIIT ja SIIT, kus on ka põhjalikum ülevaade tema teadustöödest.
RIINA MARTVERK lõpetas Haapsalu I keskkooli kuldmedaliga, Tartu Ülikoolist sai ta bakalaureusekraadi bioloogias. 1998. aastast töötas ta kaks aastat Metsaameti ökosüsteemide kaitse büroo peaspetsialistina, seejärel Keskkonnaministeeriumi metsaosakonnas peaspetsialistina metsade elurikkuse küsimustes. 2006. aastast Riikliku Looduskaitsekeskuse eluslooduse seire riiklikul ja regionaalsel tasandil koordineerimise peaspetsialistina ja aastal 2009 liikus ta Keskkonnaameti looduskaitse osakonda. Seejärel (2011-2014) töötas ta Riigimetsa Majandamise Keskuse (RMK) looduskaitseosakonnas looduskaitsespetsialistina ning alates 2014 juunist töötab Riina Martverk Keskkonnaministeeriumi metsaosakonna juhatajana. Ta on juhtinud ka mitmeid rahvusvahelisi projekte: Eesti –Taani ühisprojekt "Eesti metsakaitsealade võrgustik" (2000-2001) ja Eesti – Rootsi ühisprojekt "Vääriselupaikade inventeerimise programm" (1999-2003).
ZÜLEYXA IZMAILOVA sai Pirita Majandusgümnaasiumist põhihariduse, Tallinna Vanalinna Täiskasvanute Gümnaasiumist keskhariduse, aastal 2007 õppis ta Tallinna Tehnikaülikoolis geenitehnoloogiat, seejärel liikus aastal 2010 Tallinna Polütehnikumi õppima fotograafiat – fotograafina on ta tuntud peamiselt Zuzu Izmailova nime all. Ta on keskkonna-aktivist, ajakirjanik, vabakutseline fotograaf ja ema, kes peamiselt tegutseb rohelise ilmavaate ja jätkusuutliku arengu edendajana. Ta on ka MTÜ Noored Rohelised eestvedaja ja vabatahtlik keskkonnaorganisatsioonis Eesti Roheline Liikumine. Tema põhiteemadeks on üleminek taastuvenergiale, divestment, rohekasv, ühistuline tegevus, mahetoit ja loomade õigused. Zuzu eesmärkideks on päästa lendorav väljasuremisest ja teha Eestist tõeline Ökoriik. Ajakiri Anne&Stiil tunnustas äsja Züleyxa Izmailova töid ja tegemisi tiitliga Aasta Naine 2016.
Saates selgub:
Miks on mets meile nii oluline?
Mida tähendavad uue metsaseaduse muudatused meie metsadele?
Kuidas hoiab Keskkonnaministeerium tasakaalu metsamajanduse ja looduskaitse vahel?
Mida tähendab üleküpsenud mets ja säilikpuud?
Kui mõttekas on puit taastuvenergia allikana?
Mida võtab riik ette hiite säilitamiseks?
Uuri lisa:
Eesti Vabariigi metsanduspoliitika kohta https://www.riigiteataja.ee/akt/73663 ja Keskkonnaministeeriumi kodulehelt envir.ee
Eesti metsanduse põhiprobleemide kohta lehelt http://metsakaitseks.voog.com/
Petitsiooni "Peatame Eesti metsa hävitamise suurtöösturite poolt" kohta http://petitsioon.ee/eestimetsaeest
Reedel, 16. detsembril kell 13 Tallinnas toimuva meeleavalduse "Kodanikud aktiveeruvad Eesti metsa kaitseks" kohta facebookist
http://r2.err.ee/v/hallokosmos/saated/f72a5f3e-4c7f-4542-a230-0fdcd5a7374e/hallo-kosmos-286-meie-mets-asko-lohmus-riina-martverk-zuleyxa-izmailova
https://www.riigiteataja.ee/akt/73663
13 December 2016 11:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Even story's like that are much more useful:
http://rosettedelacroix.com/?p=2599
http://rosettedelacroix.com/?p=2599
http://rosettedelacroix.com/?p=2599
13 December 2016 11:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Make sure to let them know also, that this is what they do, is retarded and crime against humanaty
http://journalisted.com/will-stewart#tab-contact
(i can bring much more evil story 's up.. but just choose not to give them any air time at all, after all, i do archive this wall psots)
http://journalisted.com/will-stewart#tab-contact
(i can bring much more evil story 's up.. but just choose not to give them any air time at all, after all, i do archive this wall psots)
http://journalisted.com/will-stewart#tab-contact
13 December 2016 11:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
the news system that i can help to provide to a work hopefully, will cut the perversion of the minds down...
I mean if someone want to make mind expanding story for fiction, then write it so, with some medical data and bio data, how can it be MAYBE possible .. but this.. green inside body..
I mean if someone want to make mind expanding story for fiction, then write it so, with some medical data and bio data, how can it be MAYBE possible .. but this.. green inside body..
13 December 2016 10:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Some music to ease up this insane insanity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JQ0xnJyb0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JQ0xnJyb0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JQ0xnJyb0A
13 December 2016 10:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and many other blog posts:
2009:
(this did not stop By Will Stewart for MailOnline
to UPDATE the Fake story on February 2016
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1169861/Shocked-Russian-surgeons-open-man-thought-tumour--FIR-TREE-inside-lung.html#ixzz4SiMEf4iq
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook)
http://tywkiwdbi.blogspot.com.ee/2009/04/russian-man-did-not-aspirate-fir-tree.html
2009:
(this did not stop By Will Stewart for MailOnline
to UPDATE the Fake story on February 2016
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1169861/Shocked-Russian-surgeons-open-man-thought-tumour--FIR-TREE-inside-lung.html#ixzz4SiMEf4iq
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook)
http://tywkiwdbi.blogspot.com.ee/2009/04/russian-man-did-not-aspirate-fir-tree.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1169861/Shocked-Russian-surgeons-open-man-thought-tumour--FIR-TREE-inside-lung.html#ixzz4SiMEf4iq
13 December 2016 10:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This fake news was so many times posted, by other fake media up to #FoxNews and others, that Chest journal had to make post about it:
http://journal.publications.chestnet.org/article.aspx?articleid=1090121
http://journal.publications.chestnet.org/article.aspx?articleid=1090121
http://journal.publications.chestnet.org/article.aspx?articleid=1090121
13 December 2016 10:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sander Viirmaa mina poliitilise terminiloogia järgi neid asju nimeta, vaid ikka reaalse algupärase, meditsiinilise / teaduse tähenduse mõttes KUSTKOHAST poliitikalised selle sõna võtsid,
ja meditsiinis on narkootilised ained täiesti olemas,
LSD ja Seened loomulikult sinna alla ei kuulu kuna nendel pole narkootilisusega midagi pistmist, pigem nagu anti-narkootikumid
ja meditsiinis on narkootilised ained täiesti olemas,
LSD ja Seened loomulikult sinna alla ei kuulu kuna nendel pole narkootilisusega midagi pistmist, pigem nagu anti-narkootikumid
13 December 2016 09:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
narkar narkariteks, suurem osa on lips kaelas ja voolivad seda ilma nii kuidas välismaalt öeldakse, need suures plaanis ka väga ohtlikud..
narkarid pole probleem ise vaid probleemi järelkõla ja symptom
Probleemi ennast tuleb ravida
narkarid pole probleem ise vaid probleemi järelkõla ja symptom
Probleemi ennast tuleb ravida
13 December 2016 08:44
Margus Meigo commented on Bob Christian's post.
Shared
13 December 2016 08:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Elutubli!
13 December 2016 08:41
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Uustal's album.
Asjalik album!
Päris Eestlase asi!
Päris Eestlase asi!
13 December 2016 08:27
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Uustal's post.
See päris ilus idee!
13 December 2016 08:25
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Uustal's post.
I would be like "Whaaaat, people still go to school?"
13 December 2016 08:24
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Uustal's post.
but wears a tie :D
13 December 2016 08:23
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Uustal's photo.
Ise ikka ise teed noid ?
13 December 2016 08:23
Margus Meigo commented on Bob Christian's post.
Meeting with reptilian in the end was priceless
13 December 2016 08:18
Margus Meigo commented on Bob Christian's post.
Pretty good!!
13 December 2016 08:09
Margus Meigo commented on Justice Iboh's post.
Not a Ikea
13 December 2016 08:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Luulelugu "Kaua Sa halad" Oh https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/10-pk-genotsiid-may
Nu kaua kaua... kaua kuni saab siis puhkan ja alustan jälle uuesti, ja kui uuesti väsin, siis puhkan ja alustan jälle uuesti, ja uuesti ja uuesti, kuni andeks saaMe
Nu kaua kaua... kaua kuni saab siis puhkan ja alustan jälle uuesti, ja kui uuesti väsin, siis puhkan ja alustan jälle uuesti, ja uuesti ja uuesti, kuni andeks saaMe
12 December 2016 21:36
Margus Meigo replied to Marju Poldmae's comment.
so it is,
Most of the media has liberal bias that is legal, that can be seen.
Marju, what sources in Estonian and English You would reccomend, as strongly intelligent, liberal, roman-greek culture freee mind set journals, news websites ?
Most of the media has liberal bias that is legal, that can be seen.
Marju, what sources in Estonian and English You would reccomend, as strongly intelligent, liberal, roman-greek culture freee mind set journals, news websites ?
12 December 2016 21:34
Margus Meigo replied to Xavier Rockafeller's comment.
I need to Join in to Your audience Xavier
"The link you followed may have expired, or the Page may only be visible to an audience that you aren't in."
"The link you followed may have expired, or the Page may only be visible to an audience that you aren't in."
12 December 2016 21:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sexy politic's
12 December 2016 21:27
Margus Meigo commented on Myheart2ukraine's post.
This is my FB history most shared post,
People like politics
People like politics
12 December 2016 21:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You, power is in the simplines
kõik jääb puhtaks kui üle ääre ei loksu, kui ei kõrveta põhja ega külmuta südameid vaid hoiad mõtet algusest alates paremusesuunal
hingetõmbeni
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAnAxAhz8Q0&list=UUeWqh7owbhfGd5Uf-wvqEyQ&index=3
kõik jääb puhtaks kui üle ääre ei loksu, kui ei kõrveta põhja ega külmuta südameid vaid hoiad mõtet algusest alates paremusesuunal
hingetõmbeni
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAnAxAhz8Q0&list=UUeWqh7owbhfGd5Uf-wvqEyQ&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAnAxAhz8Q0&list=UUeWqh7owbhfGd5Uf-wvqEyQ&index=3
12 December 2016 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on Andra Veidemann's post.
Asoo Asoo
12 December 2016 20:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid standard ja suund on ette näidatud, mida tasub
12 December 2016 20:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi , saab kõike kokkuvõttes veel lüürilisemalt sügavamalt metsaliseks ja looduslikumaks suurema patriootlikuse armastusega...
12 December 2016 20:17
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Herrmann's post.
One of the best things i have seen long time
so simple and logical, almoust makes You think "how did i not come to this.."
so simple and logical, almoust makes You think "how did i not come to this.."
12 December 2016 19:55
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Herrmann's post.
That made me laught out loud,
good one, and he called the other guy a Jerk :D
good one, and he called the other guy a Jerk :D
12 December 2016 19:50
Margus Meigo replied to Maritta Matsalu's comment.
terviseks : )
12 December 2016 19:48
Margus Meigo replied to Beata Van Berkom's comment.
well..
can't talk about that..
can't talk about that..
12 December 2016 19:48
Margus Meigo replied to Indreko Anni's comment.
mina sain, et 2.50 on taks, ja kui mündiga ei leffita siis saab ka muidu elu ilu
12 December 2016 19:46
Margus Meigo replied to Kadi Ringmäe's comment.
Wau,
mitte, et teaks kes AKAR on aga joiniks ka hatersitega, praegu kelle pildumine käib ja kes siis tänapäeval enam korvisaamiste pärast reageerib, see voorus, kui nii tehakse, see ju retro, et nagu mingi tunnetega inimene vms
mitte, et teaks kes AKAR on aga joiniks ka hatersitega, praegu kelle pildumine käib ja kes siis tänapäeval enam korvisaamiste pärast reageerib, see voorus, kui nii tehakse, see ju retro, et nagu mingi tunnetega inimene vms
12 December 2016 19:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRqiqHZhKOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRqiqHZhKOM
12 December 2016 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI_h49D1xo8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI_h49D1xo8
12 December 2016 16:15
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Hellerma's comment.
nõuded panna oma turu hind allapoole normi on vabatahtlikud
12 December 2016 00:43
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Hellerma's comment.
Ja eesti oma turu väärtuse võib vabalt õigustatult kõrgema väärtuslikumaks hinnata kui enamus maailma kõrgturust, sest meie ise usume ka, et meie marja, tera, lina ja piima tooted ühed maailma parimad, lisaks teadlastele
Siberis vast veel on paremat puitu ja soometaga veskikivisi
Siberis vast veel on paremat puitu ja soometaga veskikivisi
12 December 2016 00:43
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Hellerma's comment.
rahastada (eraldiseisvalt reaalelust, ilma tuleviku koolitusplaanita, ) me oma maa väliselt asju mida noored peaks ülevõtma, tekitab veelgi suuremat lõhe ja kukkumist generatsioonile kellel niigi raske arusaada kuidas resursid tulevad, kasutada veel mõistetakse vahest...
nu senikaua kui me toetuste plaanist välja lopuks saame ja preemiaid eluks vajaliku tegevusega tegelemise eest saama hakkame... on kõik korras
nu senikaua kui me toetuste plaanist välja lopuks saame ja preemiaid eluks vajaliku tegevusega tegelemise eest saama hakkame... on kõik korras
12 December 2016 00:34
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Hellerma's comment.
Riigipoolne tugi mida Meie vajame on uue ja vana generatsiooni omavahelise suhtluse alal,
sellest soltub nii pollumajandus kui ka Tulevik
sellest soltub nii pollumajandus kui ka Tulevik
12 December 2016 00:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Japanese Visual Kei (jap. visual rock) music to
http://www.accuradio.com/world-music/?name=One%20World&b0=World%20Music
--
jap visual Kei music nagu :
RAY of LIGHT in the DARKNESS
SCREW
Kakusei
2015 - Crown Tokuma
or
Factor Angelo..
or
Last Song…
the LOTUS
Providence of Luv
http://www.accuradio.com/world-music/?name=One%20World&b0=World%20Music
--
jap visual Kei music nagu :
RAY of LIGHT in the DARKNESS
SCREW
Kakusei
2015 - Crown Tokuma
or
Factor Angelo..
or
Last Song…
the LOTUS
Providence of Luv
12 December 2016 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Celt
http://www.accuradio.com/celtic-music/
http://www.accuradio.com/celtic-music/
http://www.accuradio.com/celtic-music/
12 December 2016 00:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
For sure, many other radios there
http://www.accuradio.com/love-songs/
http://www.accuradio.com/love-songs/
http://www.accuradio.com/love-songs/
12 December 2016 00:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just close singup box in beginning
12 December 2016 00:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.accuradio.com/search/christmas/
http://www.accuradio.com/search/christmas/
11 December 2016 23:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
to blue
http://www.accuradio.com/player/584dcb0fe6990a1d2c663757/#
http://www.accuradio.com/search/christmas/?name=Let%20It%20Snow!%20Snow!%20Snow!&b0=Holidays%20(Christmas)
http://www.accuradio.com/player/584dcb0fe6990a1d2c663757/#
http://www.accuradio.com/search/christmas/?name=Let%20It%20Snow!%20Snow!%20Snow!&b0=Holidays%20(Christmas)
http://www.accuradio.com/player/584dcb0fe6990a1d2c663757/
11 December 2016 23:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.accuradio.com/featured/topholiday/
11 December 2016 23:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
from green, reggae Christmas to
11 December 2016 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Seriously, technologically is good and looks nice, but light pentagrams already have got hold them also so... at least saw no ads on web
11 December 2016 23:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
As he would be... but he is, if You take him for a king he is
11 December 2016 23:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Also religious and Gospel options, Classics and..
Just have to look if there was Arab and Jewish Christmas option also, as it looked so advanced, i would not be surprised
Just have to look if there was Arab and Jewish Christmas option also, as it looked so advanced, i would not be surprised
11 December 2016 23:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid julgeda kehtestatud võrkultuuri normidest välja astuda, karastab nagu talvel saunatamine,
vabastab veelgirohkem,
ja eks tunde ka tekitab vahest, nagu naljapärast sauna ukse taha jäetud pullisõrade poolt ... kes lubavad sisse kui "üle saad" kui uuesti kanda lubad..
või siis võõrad juhukommentaarid psüholoogilised kuni koduni...
Me eelmine president üks Ainukesi Eesti tipp tuntusega inimesi, kes julgenud üritatagi, ilma pika lipsu ja lausa rahvariietegagi kaamera ette rohkem kui paar korda sattuda
vabastab veelgirohkem,
ja eks tunde ka tekitab vahest, nagu naljapärast sauna ukse taha jäetud pullisõrade poolt ... kes lubavad sisse kui "üle saad" kui uuesti kanda lubad..
või siis võõrad juhukommentaarid psüholoogilised kuni koduni...
Me eelmine president üks Ainukesi Eesti tipp tuntusega inimesi, kes julgenud üritatagi, ilma pika lipsu ja lausa rahvariietegagi kaamera ette rohkem kui paar korda sattuda
11 December 2016 23:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid jah,päris Eestlastele on ikka sobilik, kunagi kui lubatakse ja julgeme, lips täielikult maha jätta,
Oleksime pidanud juba vene ajal nägems, see üks avalik nähtav siduv osa oli amerika ja nLiidu ja Korea ametnike vahel,
kuid kui Sa nüüd seda vaatad tulnuka perspektiivist kes Meie maa struktuuridest aimu saada proovib ja eraldad inimesi gruppidesse lähimeeldivuste ja tegevuste järgi asetsevad, siis üle maailma eri kultuuride tava normaalsete maainimeste silmis, tekib ühine joon arvamuse ja tegude osas, hoopis muu maa piirist, kuhu inimesi saab ka kostüümide alusel gruppidesse liigutada kui selle sama gruppide maisemad grupid aluspõhjaks valida
Oih, nu nii ta siis on :L )
Jõudu, arukust ja Jaksu Hanno
Oleksime pidanud juba vene ajal nägems, see üks avalik nähtav siduv osa oli amerika ja nLiidu ja Korea ametnike vahel,
kuid kui Sa nüüd seda vaatad tulnuka perspektiivist kes Meie maa struktuuridest aimu saada proovib ja eraldad inimesi gruppidesse lähimeeldivuste ja tegevuste järgi asetsevad, siis üle maailma eri kultuuride tava normaalsete maainimeste silmis, tekib ühine joon arvamuse ja tegude osas, hoopis muu maa piirist, kuhu inimesi saab ka kostüümide alusel gruppidesse liigutada kui selle sama gruppide maisemad grupid aluspõhjaks valida
Oih, nu nii ta siis on :L )
Jõudu, arukust ja Jaksu Hanno
11 December 2016 23:35
Margus Meigo commented on Hanno Pevkur's photo.
Muidu habemetud, lipsuga mehed eriti muljet ei avalda kuid see pilt on küll väga kena ja asjalik
11 December 2016 23:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
after saw some kinds play around with drones
11 December 2016 23:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Good aria,soon to be inhabited by Riches and ..."
11 December 2016 23:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1. English: 125.3 mil articles (40mil total), 863 420 000 edits, 29.7 mil users, 128 500 active users. 1272 admins,
2. Swedish: 3.7 mil articles (7.5 mil total), 38 mil edits, 500 000 users, 3200 active, 67admins,
3. Cebuano: 3.5 mil articles (6.2 mil total), 11 mil edits, 4 admins, 31 271 users, 119 ACTIVE USERS // (29 000 per user)
4. German: 2 mil (5.7mil) / 165 mil edits , 205 admins, 2.5 mil users, 18 700 active.
5. Dutch: 1.8 mil (3.7mil) / 49 mil edits, 45 admins, 800 000 users, 3800 active.
6. Franch: 1.8 mil (8.4mil)/ 94 mil edits, 85 admins, 2 mil users, 16 000 active,
7. Italian: 1.3 mil (4.6mil)/90 mil edits, 110 admins, 1.4 mil users, 7700 active,
8. Spanish: 1.3 mil (5.7mil)/895 mil edits, 71 admins, 4.4 mil users, 16 400 active,
9. Waray: 1.2 mil (2.8) / 6.2 mil edits, 2 ADMINS, 30 400 users, 84 active !
10. Polish: 1.2 mil (2.5) / 47 mil edits, 108 admins, 787 000 users, 3800 active
11. Vietnamise: 1.1 mil (3.3 mil) / 26 mil edits, 23 admins, 522 000 users, 1383 active.
Then come: Japanese, Portuguese, Chinese, Ukrainian, Catalan, Persian, Norwegian, Arabic, Serbo-Croatian,
Finnish, HUngarian, Indonesian, Romanian, Czech, Korean, Serbian, Turkish, Malay, Basque, Esperanto
Bulgarian, Minangkabau, Danish, Kazakh, Slovak; Armenian, Min Nan, Hebrew, Lihtuanian,
Croatian, Chechen, Slovenia, Estonia, Galician, Norwegian, Uzbek, Latin, Greek, Belarusian, Simple English, Volapük,
Hindi, Thai, Azerbaijani, Georgian, Urdu, Tamil, Macedonian, Welsh, Occitan, Malagasy, Latvian,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Detailed_list
11 % is Philipine based language's.
295 Languages
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2. Swedish: 3.7 mil articles (7.5 mil total), 38 mil edits, 500 000 users, 3200 active, 67admins,
3. Cebuano: 3.5 mil articles (6.2 mil total), 11 mil edits, 4 admins, 31 271 users, 119 ACTIVE USERS // (29 000 per user)
4. German: 2 mil (5.7mil) / 165 mil edits , 205 admins, 2.5 mil users, 18 700 active.
5. Dutch: 1.8 mil (3.7mil) / 49 mil edits, 45 admins, 800 000 users, 3800 active.
6. Franch: 1.8 mil (8.4mil)/ 94 mil edits, 85 admins, 2 mil users, 16 000 active,
7. Italian: 1.3 mil (4.6mil)/90 mil edits, 110 admins, 1.4 mil users, 7700 active,
8. Spanish: 1.3 mil (5.7mil)/895 mil edits, 71 admins, 4.4 mil users, 16 400 active,
9. Waray: 1.2 mil (2.8) / 6.2 mil edits, 2 ADMINS, 30 400 users, 84 active !
10. Polish: 1.2 mil (2.5) / 47 mil edits, 108 admins, 787 000 users, 3800 active
11. Vietnamise: 1.1 mil (3.3 mil) / 26 mil edits, 23 admins, 522 000 users, 1383 active.
Then come: Japanese, Portuguese, Chinese, Ukrainian, Catalan, Persian, Norwegian, Arabic, Serbo-Croatian,
Finnish, HUngarian, Indonesian, Romanian, Czech, Korean, Serbian, Turkish, Malay, Basque, Esperanto
Bulgarian, Minangkabau, Danish, Kazakh, Slovak; Armenian, Min Nan, Hebrew, Lihtuanian,
Croatian, Chechen, Slovenia, Estonia, Galician, Norwegian, Uzbek, Latin, Greek, Belarusian, Simple English, Volapük,
Hindi, Thai, Azerbaijani, Georgian, Urdu, Tamil, Macedonian, Welsh, Occitan, Malagasy, Latvian,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Detailed_list
11 % is Philipine based language's.
295 Languages
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Detailed_list
11 December 2016 18:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Astonishing is also, that another language, Cebuano, Bisaya that was started to teach in university not before 2012, Austronesian regional language..only 20 million speakers,
Is almoust second most popular language in Wikipedia by article number.
This language has only 4 admins in Wikipedia,
In total, of all 42 million articles, 11%+ is from phillipine languages, and not on main language,
there is 4 admins for Cebuano and one of them is Not native speaker Norway guy, and in Waray language has only 2 admins, and is also on among top 10 in amounts of articles, with just 84 active users!
Is almoust second most popular language in Wikipedia by article number.
This language has only 4 admins in Wikipedia,
In total, of all 42 million articles, 11%+ is from phillipine languages, and not on main language,
there is 4 admins for Cebuano and one of them is Not native speaker Norway guy, and in Waray language has only 2 admins, and is also on among top 10 in amounts of articles, with just 84 active users!
11 December 2016 18:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Original point was, that interesting, that wikipedia has Volapüki language presented among less then 200 languages
11 December 2016 17:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Martin_Schleyer
Johann Martin SCHLEYER ([ˈjoːhan ˈmaʁtiːn ˈʃlaɪɐ]; Esperantigite Johan Martin Ŝlejer) (naskiĝis la 18-an de julio 1831 en Oberlauda, mortis la 16-an de aŭgusto 1912 en Konstanco) estis germana rom-katolika pastro, kreinto de la lingvo Volapuko (Volapük). Lia baptonomo estis nur Martin Schleyer, la unuan nomon "Johann", fakte la nomo de sia baptopatro, li aldonis neoficiale.
Post sia ordinado en 1856, Schleyer laboris kiel pastro en pluraj parokoj. En la periodo de Kulturkampf (konflikto inter Ŝtato kaj Eklezio), li estis arestita kaj pasigis kvar monatojn en la fortreso de Rastatt pro predika eldiro kontraŭ socialismo kiel paroĥestro de Krumbach. Poste li laboris en paroĥo Sanktaj Petro kaj Paŭlo en Litzelstetten (apud la Konstanca Lago) (1875-1885), kie li ekhavis la ideon krei lingvon por faciligi la rilatojn inter la popoloj: Volapuko. Li poste diris, ke Dio mem gvidis lin dum tiu laboro.
Fakte, antaŭ Volapuko, li provis fari pli fruan helplingvon, kiun li nomis Dolmetsch-Sprache (interpretlingvo). La unua ideo de Schleyer tial estis krei skriban lingvon (do pazigrafion), kiu ekzistu el la ĉefaj lingvoj eŭropaj; germana, angla, itala, hispana kaj rusa. Tial li en 1878 kreis universalan alfabeton, taŭgan por transskribo de ĉiuj sonoj en ĉiuj lingvoj. Pri tiu alfabeto li opiniis, ke por la kristana Eŭropo unu alfabeto estas same bezona, kiel unu religio. Lia alfabeto havis sufice grandan sukceson, kaj pro tio li opiniis, ke li estas vokita por krei universalan lingvon por la homaro. Sed li forlasis la ideon pri lingvo konsistanta el la ĉefaj eŭropaj lingvoj. Li volis fari tute artefaritan lingvon kun absolute regula gramatiko. La sistemo de Volapuko enhavas en si la teoriojn de antaŭaj projektoj, ĝi havas ecojn de sekreta lingvo, de kodo, de pazigrafio kaj de artefarita lingvo parola.
Johann Martin SCHLEYER ([ˈjoːhan ˈmaʁtiːn ˈʃlaɪɐ]; Esperantigite Johan Martin Ŝlejer) (naskiĝis la 18-an de julio 1831 en Oberlauda, mortis la 16-an de aŭgusto 1912 en Konstanco) estis germana rom-katolika pastro, kreinto de la lingvo Volapuko (Volapük). Lia baptonomo estis nur Martin Schleyer, la unuan nomon "Johann", fakte la nomo de sia baptopatro, li aldonis neoficiale.
Post sia ordinado en 1856, Schleyer laboris kiel pastro en pluraj parokoj. En la periodo de Kulturkampf (konflikto inter Ŝtato kaj Eklezio), li estis arestita kaj pasigis kvar monatojn en la fortreso de Rastatt pro predika eldiro kontraŭ socialismo kiel paroĥestro de Krumbach. Poste li laboris en paroĥo Sanktaj Petro kaj Paŭlo en Litzelstetten (apud la Konstanca Lago) (1875-1885), kie li ekhavis la ideon krei lingvon por faciligi la rilatojn inter la popoloj: Volapuko. Li poste diris, ke Dio mem gvidis lin dum tiu laboro.
Fakte, antaŭ Volapuko, li provis fari pli fruan helplingvon, kiun li nomis Dolmetsch-Sprache (interpretlingvo). La unua ideo de Schleyer tial estis krei skriban lingvon (do pazigrafion), kiu ekzistu el la ĉefaj lingvoj eŭropaj; germana, angla, itala, hispana kaj rusa. Tial li en 1878 kreis universalan alfabeton, taŭgan por transskribo de ĉiuj sonoj en ĉiuj lingvoj. Pri tiu alfabeto li opiniis, ke por la kristana Eŭropo unu alfabeto estas same bezona, kiel unu religio. Lia alfabeto havis sufice grandan sukceson, kaj pro tio li opiniis, ke li estas vokita por krei universalan lingvon por la homaro. Sed li forlasis la ideon pri lingvo konsistanta el la ĉefaj eŭropaj lingvoj. Li volis fari tute artefaritan lingvon kun absolute regula gramatiko. La sistemo de Volapuko enhavas en si la teoriojn de antaŭaj projektoj, ĝi havas ecojn de sekreta lingvo, de kodo, de pazigrafio kaj de artefarita lingvo parola.
https://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Martin_Schleyer
11 December 2016 17:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volapuko
"Laŭ Enciklopedio de Esperanto:
Citaĵo
„ Volapük. De 1881 ĝis 1889 tiu ĉi lingvosistemo konstruita de prelato Schleyer, havis tiajn sukcesojn, kiuj okulvideble montris, ke artefarita lingvo estas tute bone uzebla ĉe la internaciaj rilatoj. 300 societoj, pli ol 1000 diplomitaj instruistoj, pli ol 300 lerniloj kaj libroj, 25 gazetoj en tiu lingvo - tiaj estis la atingoj de Volapuko. Sed dum 2-3 postsekvintaj jaroj, la Volapuko-movado komencis rapide malkreski kaj baldaŭ tute ĉesis. La pereon influis certe la formate strukturaj mankoj de Volapuko, sed ankoraŭ pli gravan rolon en la disfalo ludis la motivoj socie-organizaj. Volapuko estis finkonstruita de unu homo, arbitre elektinta por sia lingvo radikojn kaj gramatikajn regulojn, ne liginta sin tiurilate per internacie jam ekzistantaj normoj. Rezulte, aperis lingva vermiĉelo, en kiu sub la formo „Bodugän“ estis ne eble diveni Portugalujon; sub la formo „plim“ la internacian vorton komplimento. La arbitreco de la Volapuko-konstruo antaŭdifinis ĝian nepran dependon por ĉiam de la subjektiva bontrovo de la aŭtoro. Tiamaniere ĝi povis disvolviĝi nur laŭ tiu direkto kaj nur en tiuj kadroj, kiuj ŝajnis akcepteblaj por la bontrovo de Schleyer. Tio bremsis la normalan evoluon de la lingvo, eliminis - malgraŭ la struktura simileco al la naturaj lingvoj - la eblon libere evolui kaj pliriĉiĝi. Ankoraŭ kreskis la neebleco de normala lingvo-evoluo pro la personaj opinioj kaj organiza politiko de Schleyer. Li konsideris Volapukon „sia lingvo“, „sia“ propraĵo. Li malakceptis ĉiun penson, ke iu ajn (ĉu persono, ĉu kolektivo) povu direkti la evoluon de „lia“ lingvo. La prezidantoj de la volapükistaj societoj estis devige konfirmataj de Schleyer. Okazis, ke unuanime elektitaj gvidantoj de regionaj kaj naciaj volapükistaj societoj ne estis konfirmataj kaj ricevis senapelacian rifuzon de Schleyer. La ĉefaj kontinentoj de volapükistoj ne povas akcepti tiajn despotajn organizformojn. La movado por la monda lingvo postulis demokratiecon. Tiam dum 1888-89 okazis demokrata revolucio, direktita kontraŭ la tirana reĝimo de Schleyer. La tria internacia kongreso de Volapuko en 1889 en Parizo, dum kiu ĉiuj raportoj kaj diskutoj okazis nur en Volapuko, kategorie malakceptis la pretendojn de Schleyer pri aŭtokrata direktado de la movado kaj lingvo kaj elektis Akademion, kiu devis direkti dum la estonto la pluan evoluon de Volapuko. Schleyer restis sola kun malgranda grupo da adeptoj de sia reĝimo, la Schleyer-a lingvo haltis en sia progreso. ”
"Laŭ Enciklopedio de Esperanto:
Citaĵo
„ Volapük. De 1881 ĝis 1889 tiu ĉi lingvosistemo konstruita de prelato Schleyer, havis tiajn sukcesojn, kiuj okulvideble montris, ke artefarita lingvo estas tute bone uzebla ĉe la internaciaj rilatoj. 300 societoj, pli ol 1000 diplomitaj instruistoj, pli ol 300 lerniloj kaj libroj, 25 gazetoj en tiu lingvo - tiaj estis la atingoj de Volapuko. Sed dum 2-3 postsekvintaj jaroj, la Volapuko-movado komencis rapide malkreski kaj baldaŭ tute ĉesis. La pereon influis certe la formate strukturaj mankoj de Volapuko, sed ankoraŭ pli gravan rolon en la disfalo ludis la motivoj socie-organizaj. Volapuko estis finkonstruita de unu homo, arbitre elektinta por sia lingvo radikojn kaj gramatikajn regulojn, ne liginta sin tiurilate per internacie jam ekzistantaj normoj. Rezulte, aperis lingva vermiĉelo, en kiu sub la formo „Bodugän“ estis ne eble diveni Portugalujon; sub la formo „plim“ la internacian vorton komplimento. La arbitreco de la Volapuko-konstruo antaŭdifinis ĝian nepran dependon por ĉiam de la subjektiva bontrovo de la aŭtoro. Tiamaniere ĝi povis disvolviĝi nur laŭ tiu direkto kaj nur en tiuj kadroj, kiuj ŝajnis akcepteblaj por la bontrovo de Schleyer. Tio bremsis la normalan evoluon de la lingvo, eliminis - malgraŭ la struktura simileco al la naturaj lingvoj - la eblon libere evolui kaj pliriĉiĝi. Ankoraŭ kreskis la neebleco de normala lingvo-evoluo pro la personaj opinioj kaj organiza politiko de Schleyer. Li konsideris Volapukon „sia lingvo“, „sia“ propraĵo. Li malakceptis ĉiun penson, ke iu ajn (ĉu persono, ĉu kolektivo) povu direkti la evoluon de „lia“ lingvo. La prezidantoj de la volapükistaj societoj estis devige konfirmataj de Schleyer. Okazis, ke unuanime elektitaj gvidantoj de regionaj kaj naciaj volapükistaj societoj ne estis konfirmataj kaj ricevis senapelacian rifuzon de Schleyer. La ĉefaj kontinentoj de volapükistoj ne povas akcepti tiajn despotajn organizformojn. La movado por la monda lingvo postulis demokratiecon. Tiam dum 1888-89 okazis demokrata revolucio, direktita kontraŭ la tirana reĝimo de Schleyer. La tria internacia kongreso de Volapuko en 1889 en Parizo, dum kiu ĉiuj raportoj kaj diskutoj okazis nur en Volapuko, kategorie malakceptis la pretendojn de Schleyer pri aŭtokrata direktado de la movado kaj lingvo kaj elektis Akademion, kiu devis direkti dum la estonto la pluan evoluon de Volapuko. Schleyer restis sola kun malgranda grupo da adeptoj de sia reĝimo, la Schleyer-a lingvo haltis en sia progreso. ”
https://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volapuko
11 December 2016 17:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Here is Wikipedia on Volapük realted: https://vo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auguste_Kerckhoffs
and on esperanto: https://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Kerckhoffs
"Se vobots valik oma, telat yegedas tiädü La Cryptographie militaire (Jüfav militik), päpüböl ün 1883 fa el Journal des Sciences Miilitaires (Gased Nolavas Militik) äbinon veütikün. Yeged at äflunon vemo jüfavi tumyela XIXid (poso päpüböl as buk, samots 300 onik päbonedons fa Ministeran Milita Fransänik). In penäd at el Kerckhoffs äbespikom stadi jüfava timäda okik, ed ämobom nomis staböfik pro disin sitas jüfavik plagiko frutiks. Bal mobas at äfamikon as prisip ela Kerckhoffs, sevabo: sit jüfavik no sötob flagön klänöfi, o.b. kanon pasevön fa neflens nen nekovens pro gebans. Prinsip at sinifon, das sef gebanas muton sekidön no de binod jüfasita, ab te de kik ona, ibä sitabinods valik notidikons ün timül semik (u, äsä brefikumo esagol el Claude Shannon: neflens ya sevons jüfasiti)."
and on esperanto: https://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Kerckhoffs
"Se vobots valik oma, telat yegedas tiädü La Cryptographie militaire (Jüfav militik), päpüböl ün 1883 fa el Journal des Sciences Miilitaires (Gased Nolavas Militik) äbinon veütikün. Yeged at äflunon vemo jüfavi tumyela XIXid (poso päpüböl as buk, samots 300 onik päbonedons fa Ministeran Milita Fransänik). In penäd at el Kerckhoffs äbespikom stadi jüfava timäda okik, ed ämobom nomis staböfik pro disin sitas jüfavik plagiko frutiks. Bal mobas at äfamikon as prisip ela Kerckhoffs, sevabo: sit jüfavik no sötob flagön klänöfi, o.b. kanon pasevön fa neflens nen nekovens pro gebans. Prinsip at sinifon, das sef gebanas muton sekidön no de binod jüfasita, ab te de kik ona, ibä sitabinods valik notidikons ün timül semik (u, äsä brefikumo esagol el Claude Shannon: neflens ya sevons jüfasiti)."
11 December 2016 17:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Lisan siia meenutuseks 5 lühisaadet Amazonase teemal ca 3 a. vanusest Kaupo Kikkas-e reisist. Loodan, et saatejuht ei pahanda..
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2. https://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/huvitaja-fotokool-amazonas-santa-rosa
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11 December 2016 16:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"see koht seal on looduslik ja vabameelsem, politsei ei vääna kellegil käsi joindi tõmbamise eest"
http://r2.err.ee/l/reispass
„Reispass“ on reisisaade, kus rännatakse mööda lähedasi ja kaugeid paiku, kombitakse maailma erinevate meeltega, nuusutatakse Päris Elu Hõngu ning räägitakse teadlikumast reisimisest.
Lisaks saatekülalistele ning mõtterännakutele mööda eksootilisi maid võetakse fookusesse ka erinevad reisimise viisid ning reisimisega seotud praktilised küsimused. Seega on saade mõeldud mitte vaid tugitooli-, vaid eelkõige aktiivsele reisijale. Keskmes on inimene ja tänapäev, elu siin ja praegu, mitte „suured kivid" ja kadunud kultuurid.
Saatejuht Ivo Tšetõrkin on ninast sabani seotud rändamisega. Tema teiseks koduks on Peruu ja Amazonase vihmamets, millest on valminud artiklid, raamat „Minu Amazonas. Jõkke pissimine keelatud!“ ning ka ETV reisisari „Õhinapõhised Peruus“.
http://r2.err.ee/l/reispass
„Reispass“ on reisisaade, kus rännatakse mööda lähedasi ja kaugeid paiku, kombitakse maailma erinevate meeltega, nuusutatakse Päris Elu Hõngu ning räägitakse teadlikumast reisimisest.
Lisaks saatekülalistele ning mõtterännakutele mööda eksootilisi maid võetakse fookusesse ka erinevad reisimise viisid ning reisimisega seotud praktilised küsimused. Seega on saade mõeldud mitte vaid tugitooli-, vaid eelkõige aktiivsele reisijale. Keskmes on inimene ja tänapäev, elu siin ja praegu, mitte „suured kivid" ja kadunud kultuurid.
Saatejuht Ivo Tšetõrkin on ninast sabani seotud rändamisega. Tema teiseks koduks on Peruu ja Amazonase vihmamets, millest on valminud artiklid, raamat „Minu Amazonas. Jõkke pissimine keelatud!“ ning ka ETV reisisari „Õhinapõhised Peruus“.
http://r2.err.ee/l/reispass
11 December 2016 16:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ERR räägib et "Halot. seened olid päris teema selles külas, aga me niisama trippima ei hakanud sääl, need ikka ravi ja tõsise rituaali jaoks"
11 December 2016 16:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nii tõsist saadet ei olegi meeles millal oli nende seerias, nagu täsisuse osas
11 December 2016 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on Astrid Crivello's post.
Group: Vegan Humor
And todays kids flip out their iPhone and say: ;Like this ?11 December 2016 15:09
Margus Meigo commented on Brad Gaffney's post.
Group: Vegan Humor
True That, + a bit more11 December 2016 15:08
Margus Meigo commented on Clif Misier's post.
Group: Vegan Humor
True love Randy, true Love !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_P5f3ZNcdw&index=2&list=PLIm34WXddKqR6EblBeYyvdbmbG1BFKT0T11 December 2016 15:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And as someone smart told (who's book that was about true backround of history famous people from ironical relgious perspective, wish i would access this book again)
... that who has invented a joke has made one of the greatest archivements in life, as joke will stay alive for free.
(and who knows, what is the energetic applications on spreading idea, that is meditated from one source )
But yea, thank You for feeling this with me, as sooner or some day when dealing with larger amount of humans, someone with padge will ask that from me.. well, at least am got answers then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTNpx9N22ss&list=PL349DDE8D0DFB842A
... that who has invented a joke has made one of the greatest archivements in life, as joke will stay alive for free.
(and who knows, what is the energetic applications on spreading idea, that is meditated from one source )
But yea, thank You for feeling this with me, as sooner or some day when dealing with larger amount of humans, someone with padge will ask that from me.. well, at least am got answers then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTNpx9N22ss&list=PL349DDE8D0DFB842A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTNpx9N22ss&list=PL349DDE8D0DFB842A
11 December 2016 15:01
Margus Meigo replied to Kati Hathor Gaia's comment.
this is crazy talk ! Tel me, how come ?
11 December 2016 14:53
Margus Meigo replied to Beata Van Berkom's comment.
Moving along when i have to force my self not to help is hard for me..
11 December 2016 14:52
Margus Meigo replied to Eric Herrmann's comment.
well, it might work on proffessions but..
11 December 2016 14:51
Margus Meigo replied to Brian David Vaughan's comment.
Well, really crazy is the one who does not understood
11 December 2016 14:48
Margus Meigo replied to Isa Linda's comment.
Well, it is a defination, not offencive, but i guess it is offencive if you start to explain one a meaning of words (assuming tha tthey are) ..
11 December 2016 14:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I think this might have trully be one of my own real life jokes i come to realization,
11 December 2016 14:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" “You will never get more energy out than you put in,” she says. “But it is a unique and elegant way to treat urine waste, which will allow you to co-generate electricity.”
To give you a sense of how much energy it is possible to recapture from this method of treating urine, Botte offers this:
“At Ohio University, where there are about 22,000 students, if we would collect the urine and produce hydrogen, we would be able to produce enough electricity to perhaps power about 100 to 150 residential houses for a year, continuously.”
Consider that before you dismiss what the enterprising teens did with their own project.
Maybe, as the technology evolves, it could be applied to vehicles someday. Gasoline-powered internal combustion engines can be converted relatively easily to run on hydrogen, which raises the question of whether there is potential for pee-powered cars in the future.
To give you a sense of how much energy it is possible to recapture from this method of treating urine, Botte offers this:
“At Ohio University, where there are about 22,000 students, if we would collect the urine and produce hydrogen, we would be able to produce enough electricity to perhaps power about 100 to 150 residential houses for a year, continuously.”
Consider that before you dismiss what the enterprising teens did with their own project.
Maybe, as the technology evolves, it could be applied to vehicles someday. Gasoline-powered internal combustion engines can be converted relatively easily to run on hydrogen, which raises the question of whether there is potential for pee-powered cars in the future.
11 December 2016 14:15
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
But even forbes talked about it:
“You cannot get net energy gain, but there is no more efficient way to get clean water from urine,”
"Gerardine Botte, a professor of chemical and biomolecular engineering at Ohio University, is among those working on practical ways to make urine into a more useful hydrogen source, essentially by turning power into a byproduct of wastewater treatment. She says it takes more energy to extract hydrogen from urine than you end up getting in return as electricity. The energy equation gets even more skewed by the inefficiency of the generator used in the girls’ project.
“At first glance, they’re not having a net gain in energy,” Botte says. “But I think it’s important to say that these little girls, trying to do something like this, deserve a lot of credit.”"
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The U.S. Department of Defense is trying out a portable system from E3 at military bases in remote areas, as both a way to treat wastewater and generate power. The system, which Botte calls GreenBox technology, converts a soldier’s urine into drinking water.
“At forward operating bases, the main needs are water and fuel,” Botte says. “With this project, they’re doing both: using less energy to reutilize water sources.”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewdepaula/2012/11/08/teens-create-a-way-to-use-urine-as-fuel/#480200995555
“You cannot get net energy gain, but there is no more efficient way to get clean water from urine,”
"Gerardine Botte, a professor of chemical and biomolecular engineering at Ohio University, is among those working on practical ways to make urine into a more useful hydrogen source, essentially by turning power into a byproduct of wastewater treatment. She says it takes more energy to extract hydrogen from urine than you end up getting in return as electricity. The energy equation gets even more skewed by the inefficiency of the generator used in the girls’ project.
“At first glance, they’re not having a net gain in energy,” Botte says. “But I think it’s important to say that these little girls, trying to do something like this, deserve a lot of credit.”"
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The U.S. Department of Defense is trying out a portable system from E3 at military bases in remote areas, as both a way to treat wastewater and generate power. The system, which Botte calls GreenBox technology, converts a soldier’s urine into drinking water.
“At forward operating bases, the main needs are water and fuel,” Botte says. “With this project, they’re doing both: using less energy to reutilize water sources.”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewdepaula/2012/11/08/teens-create-a-way-to-use-urine-as-fuel/#480200995555
http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewdepaula/2012/11/08/teens-create-a-way-to-use-urine-as-fuel/#480200995555
11 December 2016 14:12
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
Really long and most info packed post about it all, and not in so positive note:
" project has attracted funding from Oxfam International (a multinational anti-poverty nonprofit) and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. And that funding has brought with it a lot of attention. While the idea we're about to discuss -- the Nigerian pee generator -- is fundamentally different from a science perspective, the whole idea of power from pee was first hatched by the Gates funded "Urine-tricity" project at UWE. Hence, it's highly probable that these Nigerian teens gained a bit of inspiration from early coverage on the topic. - See more at: http://www.dailytech.com/Debunked+Beneath+the+Lies+Nigerian+Pee+Generator+Is+Still+Pissing+Into+the+Wind/article37511.htm#sthash.MeM4k9Hp.dpuf
http://www.dailytech.com/Debunked+Beneath+the+Lies+Nigerian+Pee+Generator+Is+Still+Pissing+Into+the+Wind/article37511.htm
" project has attracted funding from Oxfam International (a multinational anti-poverty nonprofit) and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. And that funding has brought with it a lot of attention. While the idea we're about to discuss -- the Nigerian pee generator -- is fundamentally different from a science perspective, the whole idea of power from pee was first hatched by the Gates funded "Urine-tricity" project at UWE. Hence, it's highly probable that these Nigerian teens gained a bit of inspiration from early coverage on the topic. - See more at: http://www.dailytech.com/Debunked+Beneath+the+Lies+Nigerian+Pee+Generator+Is+Still+Pissing+Into+the+Wind/article37511.htm#sthash.MeM4k9Hp.dpuf
http://www.dailytech.com/Debunked+Beneath+the+Lies+Nigerian+Pee+Generator+Is+Still+Pissing+Into+the+Wind/article37511.htm
11 December 2016 14:10
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
Okey, what means "6 hours of electrisity"
11 December 2016 14:02
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
even change deniers must admit, this is good one
11 December 2016 14:01
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
hahahah :D
11 December 2016 14:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Särk on ka hea leid, natuke sarnane värviline mul oli ennist, meeldivad riided mis kauemaks vaatama panevad
11 December 2016 13:59
Margus Meigo commented on Kevad Belle Saarepera's photo.
Häga hea
11 December 2016 13:58
Margus Meigo commented on Silas Anguzu's post.
Way to go :D
11 December 2016 13:57
Margus Meigo commented on Mary Lane's post.
This really does sound good news!
So Army standing against the Corporation for now ?
So Army standing against the Corporation for now ?
11 December 2016 13:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aigar il oli terve pikk jutustus selle kohtvea a kel, mida tegelikult algselt tõlkida soovisin, kuid otsin alles
10 December 2016 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Related:
1. Charging Large Amounts of Money
2. Giving Themselves Fancy Titles
3. Inability to Take Criticism Journal of Higher Criticism
4. Overly Focused on the End Goal
5. Behaving Hypocritically
6. Focusing on Fulfilling Egocentric Desires
7. Displaying Spiritual Materialism
8. Behaving Selfishly
9. Promising a Fast Path to Self-Realization
Actually there is faster or even instant path to self-Realization.. also one can be Materialistically spiritual and a lot of selfish and hypocritically assumptions come from people who are far behind, So one must be also a bit careful when projecting this.. and well, the end goal is the focus point in a present right, if end point is understanding
http://wakeup-world.com/2013/12/09/9-ways-to-spot-a-fake-guru-or-spiritual-teacher/
1. Charging Large Amounts of Money
2. Giving Themselves Fancy Titles
3. Inability to Take Criticism Journal of Higher Criticism
4. Overly Focused on the End Goal
5. Behaving Hypocritically
6. Focusing on Fulfilling Egocentric Desires
7. Displaying Spiritual Materialism
8. Behaving Selfishly
9. Promising a Fast Path to Self-Realization
Actually there is faster or even instant path to self-Realization.. also one can be Materialistically spiritual and a lot of selfish and hypocritically assumptions come from people who are far behind, So one must be also a bit careful when projecting this.. and well, the end goal is the focus point in a present right, if end point is understanding
http://wakeup-world.com/2013/12/09/9-ways-to-spot-a-fake-guru-or-spiritual-teacher/
10 December 2016 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on Ushka Devi's post.
THank You, fits on to my current post
10 December 2016 14:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Posts just on 2016: http://revelationscriptures.com/2016/
http://revelationscriptures.com/2016/
10 December 2016 14:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
YT video about the page:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sGDvbs8T3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sGDvbs8T3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sGDvbs8T3A
10 December 2016 14:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
it is a sabotage or pure result of showing based on what kind of material it is build up
10 December 2016 10:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
So why again this group is allowed to be called as "Donald J. Trump related?
Does man not have any power at all, to regulate largest 10 000 + people groups related to it self?
How many hundreds there can be on that size ?
Does man not have any power at all, to regulate largest 10 000 + people groups related to it self?
How many hundreds there can be on that size ?
10 December 2016 10:33
Margus Meigo commented on meeldib.ee's link.
ega see interneti asi pole
10 December 2016 10:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Sometimes entire picture what you see from the screen is more then words can add, explain all, like girl blood picture and questionmark
10 December 2016 10:17
Margus Meigo commented on Joseph Fournier's post.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
and he would rather have things he do not know (???) then... the Answers that is for sure correct.
Is that irony
and is it easy to see that there has been after 95 nearly NO under 0 jumps, as i my self remember in Estonia land where is normally 4 seasons, last time we had normal winter that has been thousands of years normally was about my Youth time
and looking HOW well this graph show temp sharp rise again after 95, specially if you set normal temp measurement line as to 0.1
So is this graph against or for this man, for warming belief or there is who say is better when more cold will stay10 December 2016 09:22
Margus Meigo commented on Joseph Fournier's post.
Group: Scientists Skeptical of Anthropogenic Global Warming
Reality and model looks exactly the same to me now when we look with real mind,
Also did You forget they measure from 80s
what about who measure time scale and temperature difference speed.10 December 2016 08:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et isegi kui nii oleks kui juba on
10 December 2016 08:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see otsusesse arusaama kaasa arvestatud
10 December 2016 08:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kaasaarvatud kogu seda asja, et piimatooteid ülse tarbima ei peaks jms
10 December 2016 08:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mina annaks nii kuis soovib, eriti kui suhkruvabamate poolt reaalsemate ja ise kodus ka vahest teha viitsib, kuigi jogurtid nii odavad eestis, et neid võib päevotsa ka süüa
10 December 2016 08:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
13-15
10 December 2016 08:03
Margus Meigo commented on Grace Miller's post.
Group: Trump Friends
So is this guy good ?10 December 2016 08:03
Margus Meigo replied to Julayne Rowley's comment.
Group: Trump Friends
You know, the one in the Woods
Linda Woods10 December 2016 07:58
Margus Meigo replied to Alice Small-Melvin's comment.
Group: Trump Friends
they do it by stopping people sharing something that can kind of like emotionally attract in direction of feelings,10 December 2016 07:41
Margus Meigo replied to Alice Small-Melvin's comment.
Group: Trump Friends
like You can see my reply is hidden, automatically:
okey now when maybe, for these who already saw, but others, who have not see my reply, will not see usually, perhaps, this is how liberals for example control information flow, that gives big effect in the end, by stopping people sharing something that can kind of like emotionally attract in direction of feelings,
They can allow when it is low joke
or based even related to a story that has real info in as long they control what the outcome and outlook, moral of the story is for most readers, at best10 December 2016 07:39
Margus Meigo replied to Joshua Citrowski's comment.
Group: Trump Friends
Honest man can say so, who i confident and when it was needed to be told, for only real reason10 December 2016 07:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kuidas kaitsta
(viitsimine Õppida tasemel selgeks need tasemed mida peaks teadma, et oma naist ainult endale ja kaitstud hoida)
Seega on üldiselt teda, et naised Ammu on Armored sest spirituaalses maailmas kus kogu trall toimub nad pidanud võitlema kuid mees maal arvab, et pohi võitlus on maal, ja seda ka mitte naistevastaste vastu vaid mingit mida iganes muud ajavad põhikaalutlusena taga, nagu oleks midagi veel peale selle mis rohkem meeldiks Jumalale
(viitsimine Õppida tasemel selgeks need tasemed mida peaks teadma, et oma naist ainult endale ja kaitstud hoida)
Seega on üldiselt teda, et naised Ammu on Armored sest spirituaalses maailmas kus kogu trall toimub nad pidanud võitlema kuid mees maal arvab, et pohi võitlus on maal, ja seda ka mitte naistevastaste vastu vaid mingit mida iganes muud ajavad põhikaalutlusena taga, nagu oleks midagi veel peale selle mis rohkem meeldiks Jumalale
10 December 2016 07:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid see nii elementaarne, idee naistele, et meestele peab üle õpetama maailmas, et koos on parem
10 December 2016 07:34
Margus Meigo commented on Veronica Neiland's photo.
NU peaaasi, et ikka teistega kooos suunas
10 December 2016 07:34
Margus Meigo replied to Joshua Citrowski's comment.
Group: Trump Friends
this meeme under THIS image of-course.. is class of is own humor, to ease the worst10 December 2016 07:29
Margus Meigo replied to Alice Small-Melvin's comment.
Group: Trump Friends
then You should know, that sharing this kind of images should be illegal, for looking of brain development perspective what we need to look and think about and what not10 December 2016 07:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
10 December 2016 07:22
Margus Meigo commented on Diane Wrixon's post.
Group: The Original A.M. Joy Fan Page
it is jsut10 December 2016 06:58
Margus Meigo commented on Alan Watts's photo.
times when he still used smoking
9 December 2016 13:11
Margus Meigo commented on Alan Watts's post.
they just test Your will, be thankful for them and help them to get to correct road when it seems it got lost in their game and forget that they have to do other things also in life besides testing if they can hurt You
9 December 2016 12:42
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
Full story in here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1cz85pFzhk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1cz85pFzhk
9 December 2016 09:11
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
She is showing so deep in there... on what level women’s have to battle.
9 December 2016 09:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(menu: view in Estonian)
9 December 2016 08:56
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Herrmann's photo.
hard to imagine any other way
then what we will see will in the end still be more then what can be written
then what we will see will in the end still be more then what can be written
9 December 2016 08:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
9 December 2016 08:40
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
oo boy.. liberal rationalism can not explain.
9 December 2016 08:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oot mis see Mass nüüd täpselt oligi...
Igahteas vast mida arvutan, vast see elektromagnetismi ja kovakettal oleva magnetismi vahelise infosalvestuse vahesse
Igahteas vast mida arvutan, vast see elektromagnetismi ja kovakettal oleva magnetismi vahelise infosalvestuse vahesse
9 December 2016 06:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid kuna aeg ongi paigal ka, kui sa liikuvas ajas, ehk ajas suunamises eip osale
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"frlaks, .flacks, now this moment is past and if we even wanna remember these who was related to knowing, (this language will be used against you, including everything you say, but what about family? )
If women to realize that, then she would adopt that kid and become wife, but this is just Also another level of women reallati direction, reason why she is here, then that compared to the man. But then She newer can make so large fights in dimension layers, except when it really is , ... you CAN imagine what WorldWar was right, in varjous many groups greated, they mechanially invoke war by mass times Law of Attracxtion, equals their right to multiply, or rather condition, advantage, is as they call it, advantage on siis hea öelda, kui esihambaid pole. et nagu juba teab reaalsel tasemel ja kellel teine reaalsus, peate olema ettevaatlikud, sest ka need kes päriselt ilma valimatult hakkavad hoos lööma, ka neid keda ei tohi, ja teatud piirini, Sest pidage meeles, meelega testiks tehtud asjad nähtakse läbi, ja põhjused ilmnevad enamusel, kuid kuna tõde on üks siis pole motet lopuks ka ilma palju lugeda igast, enamust mida ma pole vel lugenud, suurema arusaamanimel, mis nagu wifina sul teadmised uute kehasse aitab üle kanda, muidu nad ju ei saaks aru, et nad otse laiis, või videosse votsid kuidas nad elus inimese hingel pead otsast saagima hakkasid, sellel usuga, mis vale pea sassi aetud või, et oli nõus selle katsega, teades mis juhtub kui otse ise ennast lavale paned, siis peab see edasiminekuks olema, kuid kas su edasiminek on õige, sinu, sina süvilugeja.
(out of few) and would loose ones womnissity, and become mother, that might still be ((lesser feeling of total /, )) Reading this, would experience (siit ka selle sõna tähendus, mille tavarahvani viies) the situation when thwo different women doors open to each other and they are on same side to the end, but then, what abaout women, , huspands they had for example, with who and how they are soposed to be joined to for ever or something, like that, so who will stay then in the end, (not that it would matter current ) so is it huspand and women, huspand in // womans world, or woman, only. "
See on, (kui eemline koma veel See ees oleks olnud kursori kohaeal, siis see näitaks kuidas kirjutaja süüst puhas on, seda kirjutades, sest siis vahetus tal (alles nüüd sain aru, et saan reaalsuste vahele ja sisse vabalt kirjutada rohkem kui see mis välja paistab, seega ei peagi koike selgitama vaid oma moodi oigesti oma treeningu pü luues kui soovite kellegagi koos olla kuid ta teeb seda meelinäitavalt rohkem kui oleks mõistlik, aga mina ei saa talle seda pakkuda, mida mingil teisel kehal oleks vaja, selleks, et ta enda kehas , saaks selles punktis asjad korda, vahest kahe kohtuva keha vahel , olenevalt nende arengust, on väiksem võimalus reaalselt läbi saada,kahel kohtuval kehal kellel molemal tihtipeale mingi ala on alaarenenud sest valmistati ettte hoopis teistsuguste ülesannete jätkamiseks, kui need kes elu elus hoidma jäävad, selles osas nagu mesilane jah, on Naine, naise parim pilt mehe liikuvuse masse vaadates nendes osas kes elama jäävad, elu edasi kandma, ülejäänu pohimehanism on pantud kaitsesüsteemi ja majanduse ülesehitamisesse, Whatabaout Love ? ))
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"frlaks, .flacks, now this moment is past and if we even wanna remember these who was related to knowing, (this language will be used against you, including everything you say, but what about family? )
If women to realize that, then she would adopt that kid and become wife, but this is just Also another level of women reallati direction, reason why she is here, then that compared to the man. But then She newer can make so large fights in dimension layers, except when it really is , ... you CAN imagine what WorldWar was right, in varjous many groups greated, they mechanially invoke war by mass times Law of Attracxtion, equals their right to multiply, or rather condition, advantage, is as they call it, advantage on siis hea öelda, kui esihambaid pole. et nagu juba teab reaalsel tasemel ja kellel teine reaalsus, peate olema ettevaatlikud, sest ka need kes päriselt ilma valimatult hakkavad hoos lööma, ka neid keda ei tohi, ja teatud piirini, Sest pidage meeles, meelega testiks tehtud asjad nähtakse läbi, ja põhjused ilmnevad enamusel, kuid kuna tõde on üks siis pole motet lopuks ka ilma palju lugeda igast, enamust mida ma pole vel lugenud, suurema arusaamanimel, mis nagu wifina sul teadmised uute kehasse aitab üle kanda, muidu nad ju ei saaks aru, et nad otse laiis, või videosse votsid kuidas nad elus inimese hingel pead otsast saagima hakkasid, sellel usuga, mis vale pea sassi aetud või, et oli nõus selle katsega, teades mis juhtub kui otse ise ennast lavale paned, siis peab see edasiminekuks olema, kuid kas su edasiminek on õige, sinu, sina süvilugeja.
(out of few) and would loose ones womnissity, and become mother, that might still be ((lesser feeling of total /, )) Reading this, would experience (siit ka selle sõna tähendus, mille tavarahvani viies) the situation when thwo different women doors open to each other and they are on same side to the end, but then, what abaout women, , huspands they had for example, with who and how they are soposed to be joined to for ever or something, like that, so who will stay then in the end, (not that it would matter current ) so is it huspand and women, huspand in // womans world, or woman, only. "
See on, (kui eemline koma veel See ees oleks olnud kursori kohaeal, siis see näitaks kuidas kirjutaja süüst puhas on, seda kirjutades, sest siis vahetus tal (alles nüüd sain aru, et saan reaalsuste vahele ja sisse vabalt kirjutada rohkem kui see mis välja paistab, seega ei peagi koike selgitama vaid oma moodi oigesti oma treeningu pü luues kui soovite kellegagi koos olla kuid ta teeb seda meelinäitavalt rohkem kui oleks mõistlik, aga mina ei saa talle seda pakkuda, mida mingil teisel kehal oleks vaja, selleks, et ta enda kehas , saaks selles punktis asjad korda, vahest kahe kohtuva keha vahel , olenevalt nende arengust, on väiksem võimalus reaalselt läbi saada,kahel kohtuval kehal kellel molemal tihtipeale mingi ala on alaarenenud sest valmistati ettte hoopis teistsuguste ülesannete jätkamiseks, kui need kes elu elus hoidma jäävad, selles osas nagu mesilane jah, on Naine, naise parim pilt mehe liikuvuse masse vaadates nendes osas kes elama jäävad, elu edasi kandma, ülejäänu pohimehanism on pantud kaitsesüsteemi ja majanduse ülesehitamisesse, Whatabaout Love ? ))
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9 December 2016 06:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Ja kui selle koti sisu uuesti näen avalikusele tulemast see ainult rõõmu teeb kui õigesti " - Weebilink:
9 December 2016 06:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(selle postituse juures on suur hulk vahematerali, mis näitab mis toimetusinen e läbi raalitud oli, kui selle postituseni jõudsin mis vajalikuma suuna selles osas mis teen. õigemini kokkuvõtaks ja ajas ees tagaolijate motteis ja ajast väljasoool ajas olijatele)
9 December 2016 06:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Saab teha abikaasad nagu CV-Online Estonia's (mis nüüd ka Vene oma, onneks seekord sattus meie meelsetele.loodame) Eessõnaga CV, või õigemini nagu tavaline CV dega kaasaskäiv kord on,
Lihtsalt CV vorm peaks olema enamasti standartne, ja kellel mitte, sellel sisuga ja kellel mitte ei loovust ega sisu siis korralikusega, ja kui viimases ka lonkab siis vaadata kas on korralikuse vastu ideoloogiliselt või poolt, kui poolt siis hea, kui looduslik sisi ka pigem hea.
Kuid kui veel kõige kolme poolt siis eriti hea kuid veel parem kui juurde lisab.
JA siit maalt enne teadmisi, inimene avastab, et tal on pigem loovus
Lihtsalt CV vorm peaks olema enamasti standartne, ja kellel mitte, sellel sisuga ja kellel mitte ei loovust ega sisu siis korralikusega, ja kui viimases ka lonkab siis vaadata kas on korralikuse vastu ideoloogiliselt või poolt, kui poolt siis hea, kui looduslik sisi ka pigem hea.
Kuid kui veel kõige kolme poolt siis eriti hea kuid veel parem kui juurde lisab.
JA siit maalt enne teadmisi, inimene avastab, et tal on pigem loovus
9 December 2016 06:37
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
communist attacks infiltrate deep places
8 December 2016 14:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Oot ms seda Remo hoitakse alles Reformikas v??
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saan aru, et muu maafia aga..
või kes need pohi üle naerjad eetris olid..
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saan aru, et muu maafia aga..
või kes need pohi üle naerjad eetris olid..
8 December 2016 14:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Reporteritund. Uue aasta riigieelarve ja maksumuudatused
Kuulajaid: 1313
08.12.2016 14:05
Taas on moes kobarseadused ning maksumuudatusi tehakse mitte enam nädalaid ja kuid, vaid päevi ja tunde kuluvate analüüside tulemusel.
Kas see on stabiilses ühiskonnas mõeldav või on uuel koalitsioonil siiski õigus oma poliitilist tahet ellu viia?
Uue aasta eelarvest ja maksumuudatustest räägivad Kalvi Kõva (pildil) sotsiaaldemokraatlikust erakonnast, Martin Helme EKREst, Remo Holsmer reformierakonnast ja Kersti Sarapuu keskerakonnast.
Saatejuht on Mirko Ojakivi. Kuula 8. detsembril kell 14.05.
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//neid kutte tundub rohkem olema sääl kui nimesi saates, või on neil nii mitu palet, ettundub eri olendid
Kuulajaid: 1313
08.12.2016 14:05
Taas on moes kobarseadused ning maksumuudatusi tehakse mitte enam nädalaid ja kuid, vaid päevi ja tunde kuluvate analüüside tulemusel.
Kas see on stabiilses ühiskonnas mõeldav või on uuel koalitsioonil siiski õigus oma poliitilist tahet ellu viia?
Uue aasta eelarvest ja maksumuudatustest räägivad Kalvi Kõva (pildil) sotsiaaldemokraatlikust erakonnast, Martin Helme EKREst, Remo Holsmer reformierakonnast ja Kersti Sarapuu keskerakonnast.
Saatejuht on Mirko Ojakivi. Kuula 8. detsembril kell 14.05.
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//neid kutte tundub rohkem olema sääl kui nimesi saates, või on neil nii mitu palet, ettundub eri olendid
8 December 2016 14:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Daam nii nurka surutud oli et hääle tollel värisema võttis ja vabandlikult nagu kisjake keskel ettevaatlikult rääkima võttis võrdsustavalt vaigistavalt, samas suunas..
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Reporteritund. Uue aasta riigieelarve ja maksumuudatused
Kuulajaid: 1313
08.12.2016 14:05
Taas on moes kobarseadused ning maksumuudatusi tehakse mitte enam nädalaid ja kuid, vaid päevi ja tunde kuluvate analüüside tulemusel.
Kas see on stabiilses ühiskonnas mõeldav või on uuel koalitsioonil siiski õigus oma poliitilist tahet ellu viia?
Uue aasta eelarvest ja maksumuudatustest räägivad Kalvi Kõva (pildil) sotsiaaldemokraatlikust erakonnast, Martin Helme EKREst, Remo Holsmer reformierakonnast ja Kersti Sarapuu keskerakonnast.
Saatejuht on Mirko Ojakivi. Kuula 8. detsembril kell 14.05.
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Reporteritund. Uue aasta riigieelarve ja maksumuudatused
Kuulajaid: 1313
08.12.2016 14:05
Taas on moes kobarseadused ning maksumuudatusi tehakse mitte enam nädalaid ja kuid, vaid päevi ja tunde kuluvate analüüside tulemusel.
Kas see on stabiilses ühiskonnas mõeldav või on uuel koalitsioonil siiski õigus oma poliitilist tahet ellu viia?
Uue aasta eelarvest ja maksumuudatustest räägivad Kalvi Kõva (pildil) sotsiaaldemokraatlikust erakonnast, Martin Helme EKREst, Remo Holsmer reformierakonnast ja Kersti Sarapuu keskerakonnast.
Saatejuht on Mirko Ojakivi. Kuula 8. detsembril kell 14.05.
8 December 2016 14:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Jeerum kes need NII ebaviisakad mölaklikult nüüd vikeraadios üksteise üle, veel üle naise, vanema daami möirgavad, riigiraadios, noored (suts enne 14:40)
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/l/reporteritund
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/l/reporteritund
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/l/reporteritund
8 December 2016 14:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
suhkur ja alko ka sama, kuid alko hullem
8 December 2016 13:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mees kes räägib ei saa alko jkahjulikuse pohimottest isegi mitte aru, ja jutustab nii et on kohe..
8 December 2016 13:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
samas inimlikus on ka alles ja olemas loomulikult, kuid tegelikult peaks olema ininimesed positsioonidel kes teavad olulisust
8 December 2016 13:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lihtsalt riik näitab sihtmärgiga, märgina, millised meheasendused juba on pantud eri positsioonidele,
8 December 2016 13:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siis järgmine .... alkoholist, reporter kannatlikult kannatab välja ja jääb soliidseks
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Nüüd mees räägib PERE eelarvest võttes näiteks kui isa oma sauna 5 õlle jaoks nüüd peab 15 senti rohkem maksma pudelilt...
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/
likult,
Põlva Tarbiate Esimees, kuid kes need enne neid rääkisidu noored kutid, nad ikka teavad mida saavad viisnurgalised selle infoga meie liigi osas teha , ja mida tehaks,eteavad elementaarset, ja kes vastutab, kui ei teata ?
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Ja riigile: ettevalmistus selleks ettevalmistatud olemiseks, üle eestilsielt ka rah
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Nüüd mees räägib PERE eelarvest võttes näiteks kui isa oma sauna 5 õlle jaoks nüüd peab 15 senti rohkem maksma pudelilt...
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/
likult,
Põlva Tarbiate Esimees, kuid kes need enne neid rääkisidu noored kutid, nad ikka teavad mida saavad viisnurgalised selle infoga meie liigi osas teha , ja mida tehaks,eteavad elementaarset, ja kes vastutab, kui ei teata ?
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Ja riigile: ettevalmistus selleks ettevalmistatud olemiseks, üle eestilsielt ka rah
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/
8 December 2016 13:36
Margus Meigo commented on Ivo Tinno's post.
Group: Füüsilise puudega inimeste rõõmud/mured-suhtlemine
alguses lugesin "äitah grippi vastu võtmast"
ja mõtlesin, et mis mis .. ...8 December 2016 10:35
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Herrmann's post.
Yes, this can be integrated in to normal phone settings
8 December 2016 10:20
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
So as i told... when he is son of God, then he is not a saviour that is talked about as it must be son of a MAN who is saviour /(last sentence of bible) as it must be humans them self who save us, as no one else understood heart like we do
7 December 2016 03:51
Margus Meigo commented on Shuiti Okada II's post.
成龍 Jackie Chan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hljY_4Nw-PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hljY_4Nw-PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hljY_4Nw-PM
7 December 2016 03:37
Margus Meigo commented on Shuiti Okada II's post.
And if You say like that, does it means, You mean, he will be the one who build up America and invoces great spirit in human soul, and makes world greatest Nature protection acts and anti drinking and smoking campaigns and good healthcare reforms, .. or how do You think "Hitler" ?
What does it mean?
What does it mean?
7 December 2016 03:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but at least i transport in alternative reality all good in to there where is needed
7 December 2016 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on Shuiti Okada II's post.
In truth Trump is the Roman-Greek empire Liberal side, red side, from he's actions but same time .. he is still "our own guy among the wolfs"
.. while Hillary rise between liberal ones, who in core ARE against women as true liberalism foundation is greek-roman mindset ..that is in core anti-woman... so Hillary was biggest danger to true Liberals, ... this was easy to see also, when people start to notice the liberal media backstabbing Hillary and not being able defend her in a way they should .
Most biggest fault i feel on my self that i did not help her to become, as much i could have, with ease
.. while Hillary rise between liberal ones, who in core ARE against women as true liberalism foundation is greek-roman mindset ..that is in core anti-woman... so Hillary was biggest danger to true Liberals, ... this was easy to see also, when people start to notice the liberal media backstabbing Hillary and not being able defend her in a way they should .
Most biggest fault i feel on my self that i did not help her to become, as much i could have, with ease
7 December 2016 03:31
Margus Meigo commented on Shuiti Okada II's post.
Hitler and Trump is another side of each other in much. .they can not be.. Hitler values and hear is much higher level and pure
7 December 2016 03:28
Margus Meigo commented on Shuiti Okada II's post.
So to us
7 December 2016 03:27
Margus Meigo commented on Shuiti Okada II's post.
Disaster ended up to be.. not so disaster ... it is like USA would know what they do
7 December 2016 03:26
Margus Meigo commented on Shuiti Okada II's post.
Spell it out ):
7 December 2016 03:24
Margus Meigo commented on Shuiti Okada II's post.
Japanese think too sensitive and should think more wide and larger, ...but forced to think of them self less after "West" (Greek-Roman culture) infiltrated this great animistic culture
7 December 2016 03:22
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
Please explain for me also Your as complete and most high understanding of Jesus as you can,
but yea, if you think about jesus who focused on some space ideas instead to a family then it is jes, Liberal,
but talking about basic understanding he had about behaver then these understandings on liberal mind seem extreme conservative,
in normal people mind they just seem elementary /(like not thinking what benefits not and understanding, that thinking good is better
but yea, if you think about jesus who focused on some space ideas instead to a family then it is jes, Liberal,
but talking about basic understanding he had about behaver then these understandings on liberal mind seem extreme conservative,
in normal people mind they just seem elementary /(like not thinking what benefits not and understanding, that thinking good is better
7 December 2016 03:16
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
I made some mistakes also.. just wanting You reply on it, so we can have practical discussion about evilness of "Liberalism" that assumes, that humans should be turned in to robot slaves. This is not a strong position, just using it as war-up position, as i often do to see how liberal someone is and how they agree or reason
7 December 2016 03:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And if someone say "Well, they them self did choose them self.." then i say: "Good, still good with me, as they have Greater value that we share that keeps us all alive"
7 December 2016 03:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kind of on the level, as is not allowed to think about Adolf
in any positive manner,
even thought everyone who dares to look can see clearly the enormous positive benefit and greater crimes on opposite side,
Do You agree, that Jew's are the choosen people?
I can easy, to accept this. And still feel good and i am Estonian
in any positive manner,
even thought everyone who dares to look can see clearly the enormous positive benefit and greater crimes on opposite side,
Do You agree, that Jew's are the choosen people?
I can easy, to accept this. And still feel good and i am Estonian
7 December 2016 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
As Liberal (Core of Liberal aka anti-human project) is to remove Human from a God, and replace it with robot control system called "facts" and "knowledge" about "how things are"
so man are then made accept and think in ONE way that is forced on to and that is NOT allowed to be tested or challenged,
so man are then made accept and think in ONE way that is forced on to and that is NOT allowed to be tested or challenged,
7 December 2016 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
how more conservative can You be when You say that THINKING is Not allowed about other women’s even, and if You DO think by accident, then this is crime already done,
i think this is way more conservative then most con's together.
Also was told clearly, man circle COMES from a Mother . TO A Women .. this is Man life circle, and if another women sees this man soul to be worth, in a SPIRITUAL, GODLY realm, then this man will be grown to more and more levels and ways, to get worth while human who can help to manage rest of the creation
i think this is way more conservative then most con's together.
Also was told clearly, man circle COMES from a Mother . TO A Women .. this is Man life circle, and if another women sees this man soul to be worth, in a SPIRITUAL, GODLY realm, then this man will be grown to more and more levels and ways, to get worth while human who can help to manage rest of the creation
7 December 2016 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
Or Can You say, one was?
If one must be EXAMPLE for a humans, then one should be example how GOD plan it, but he was not able to be a EXAMPLE to a human
He did good for what for it is and was and for that i am thankful for the powerful being but he is not as powerful as humans as humans can enjoy all the beauty, power in much richer dimension then this what was seem from the one who forget to talk about how important is keeping family REAL earthly family...
but then again... maybe back then there was no problems whit a kids and parents.. so it would have been impossiblet o hae topics like that..
If one must be EXAMPLE for a humans, then one should be example how GOD plan it, but he was not able to be a EXAMPLE to a human
He did good for what for it is and was and for that i am thankful for the powerful being but he is not as powerful as humans as humans can enjoy all the beauty, power in much richer dimension then this what was seem from the one who forget to talk about how important is keeping family REAL earthly family...
but then again... maybe back then there was no problems whit a kids and parents.. so it would have been impossiblet o hae topics like that..
7 December 2016 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
also he was (this way what ROmans allowed to write it down)..he was helping to make Divide between father and child, ... and he was not the one what OLD testament talks about in the END of last sentence,
How much more easy can God make things for You +
How much more easy can God make things for You +
7 December 2016 02:50
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
Also he was NOT openly putting effort for family to join together, he was not a family builder but focused on cosmic brotherhood consept and spirit world kind of forgetting that if we fail to make proper family union in this world then there is no Human project anymore
7 December 2016 02:49
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
You do not have to be extreme conservative to crucify someone,
Jesus was fanatic and WORKED he's way up to be sacrificed for a reason, in a way that would help to remember the female Ankh ,
at most,
Also one was kind of forcing god and wanted to do ones own project .. and also was cursing to a plant's and most of all forget to (at least this what was written on text) to mention most high cures and plants that help humans to keep near god.
Also he did suspiciously little talk about Woman
Jesus was fanatic and WORKED he's way up to be sacrificed for a reason, in a way that would help to remember the female Ankh ,
at most,
Also one was kind of forcing god and wanted to do ones own project .. and also was cursing to a plant's and most of all forget to (at least this what was written on text) to mention most high cures and plants that help humans to keep near god.
Also he did suspiciously little talk about Woman
7 December 2016 02:47
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
J is fanatic
7 December 2016 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce Alan Wilson's comment.
extreme conservatism
6 December 2016 23:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja siis mentaalne block ka veel tuleb, et äkki on kahtlane sest nagu peaks olema natuke ja pole nii maitsev vast ega toitev ja kas piimast tulnud isegi hapendatuna üldse on vaja neid piima asju kuumutatult või muidu
6 December 2016 07:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
not a single one without a tie also, and all shaved and cut,what you gonna do with it kind when it has turned sour
6 December 2016 07:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
without arguing about basic
6 December 2016 07:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 December 2016 07:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Today liberty people look like that:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/libertymovementgroup/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/libertymovementgroup/
The Liberty Movement
6 December 2016 07:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Here is link for editing and making another version from what i made for starters at once: (on the document that have: "Green,Blue,Red,White is the order")
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u7W3TP9nvlaNN_d6xHE86IIRnuIq9tAjA6qcssZ2W9U/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u7W3TP9nvlaNN_d6xHE86IIRnuIq9tAjA6qcssZ2W9U/edit?usp=sharing
6 December 2016 07:08
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
did i trip you back in now ?
6 December 2016 07:05
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
but as long they not make graveyards no one counts, like there would be some use of the counting by the ones who try to figure out
6 December 2016 07:05
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
in fact, they do die somewhere if we now think about it..
6 December 2016 07:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
people to much focus on the SIDE things as economy, finance, military, education etc but must look what is the MAIN core, the MAIN core difference of the unchangeable difference in the end between these who truly think and these who truly are
6 December 2016 07:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
oxymoron
ˌɒksɪˈmɔːrɒn/
noun
noun: oxymoron; plural noun: oxyMorons
a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction (e.g. faith unfaithful kept him falsely true ).
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Is much more real and logical to keep some one falsely true, then to be Christian-Liberal that is impossible by the virtue of worlds, that Liberals are league against Christianity in the core as main goal, so how can there be
"Liberals Unite - So we can help you better!
ˌɒksɪˈmɔːrɒn/
noun
noun: oxymoron; plural noun: oxyMorons
a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction (e.g. faith unfaithful kept him falsely true ).
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Is much more real and logical to keep some one falsely true, then to be Christian-Liberal that is impossible by the virtue of worlds, that Liberals are league against Christianity in the core as main goal, so how can there be
"Liberals Unite - So we can help you better!
6 December 2016 07:01
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
Thank you
6 December 2016 06:56
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
i think so, .. well, maybe not,
as the bird did make snake first a softer, knock in a nerves perhaps so one does not feel pain or fear just out of living pleasure moves around in the end,
for the returning the thankfulness of approaching with respect (the favor of leaving for a bird a more alive feeling when eaten but doing it with calm pleasure and small effort, for a bird and self respect also and feeling )
as the bird did make snake first a softer, knock in a nerves perhaps so one does not feel pain or fear just out of living pleasure moves around in the end,
for the returning the thankfulness of approaching with respect (the favor of leaving for a bird a more alive feeling when eaten but doing it with calm pleasure and small effort, for a bird and self respect also and feeling )
6 December 2016 06:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 December 2016 06:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Unfortunately it is to unsafe..
also just telling ,that i am not completely sensitive,
just felt after a moment bad that this duck video turned in to 5 minute snake torture video, bird was nice who tortures perhaps but still feeled sad for the snake to..
But FB knows this link not to safe to be
youtu .be/ZU3JJeRmbL4?t=6m14s
But should we or is not correct
also just telling ,that i am not completely sensitive,
just felt after a moment bad that this duck video turned in to 5 minute snake torture video, bird was nice who tortures perhaps but still feeled sad for the snake to..
But FB knows this link not to safe to be
youtu .be/ZU3JJeRmbL4?t=6m14s
But should we or is not correct
6 December 2016 06:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(viimane lause on hästi lihtne ja õige, kas sellest ikka saate aru +)
6 December 2016 06:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sest need kes õiged aga inimliku arusaamaga alles poisikesed saab mänguasjana juhtida kuhu iganes austust andma ja suud kinni hoidma
6 December 2016 06:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi kriitiline tunudb muu.. siis kriitilisus seisneb selles kas inimlikust on positsionile järgi jäänud või mitte, mitte selles kui oiged on positsioonil
6 December 2016 06:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
inimlikult
6 December 2016 06:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
peastpaa peab ka korda saama,saagearu
6 December 2016 06:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
See Saksa Eesti NATO Ühing Ramstaini ligi mis Saksamaasõpruslinnale ligi, bäne ise tehakse ja aidatakse ka turule, et osad märkamatud kohad märgatavaks teha alatiseks, ja oiget ligipääsu kogu maailma arusaamade peeglit arvestades, sinna nendeni suuna, lased infol peale paista arvestades ajast ette koiki eri maailmaarusaame ja selgituse slegindusi, et tagasipeegeldus oleks tõena kõige praktilisem, mitte ädakohane
6 December 2016 06:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
that means the meaning is near nothing
6 December 2016 06:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i did not really mean-it
6 December 2016 06:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 December 2016 05:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
OKey, thats more like human access:
https://mg.mail.yahoo.com/neo/b/launch
https://mg.mail.yahoo.com/neo/b/launch
https://mg.mail.yahoo.com/neo/b/launch
6 December 2016 05:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 December 2016 05:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 December 2016 05:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so at least this what they belive
6 December 2016 05:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So the Greek-Roman has been ripping on, integrating them self in to our world (and on that point it even matters less if i am among one of the Roman invented outcome or on the side of nature )
and as it is allowed for them to use language as Tool of data, so for them Lie does not exist and can not be blamed and they can break to higher levels as when humans do that they not understand why even their own are throwing stones at them or nails on the road for like stopping ones success
and as it is allowed for them to use language as Tool of data, so for them Lie does not exist and can not be blamed and they can break to higher levels as when humans do that they not understand why even their own are throwing stones at them or nails on the road for like stopping ones success
6 December 2016 05:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 December 2016 05:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
6 December 2016 05:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Siin saab FB olemusest olenemata komenteerida ka, Ilu olemuse erinevus Neil ka:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pnuy1IMjLIYjZhCyWeZDOpkUpwALl1-5WNLaJioqj3M/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pnuy1IMjLIYjZhCyWeZDOpkUpwALl1-5WNLaJioqj3M/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pnuy1IMjLIYjZhCyWeZDOpkUpwALl1-5WNLaJioqj3M/edit?usp=sharing
6 December 2016 05:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid ilust rääkides, eriti ilus on sellel ilu soovituskirja ehtel all parema nurga disain, ideaalne paigutus, midagi mida ise paremaks ei oskaks sättida kogu pildi olemuses, kuid jah, Aristotelese nimi võikssaaks saab olla Tulevikus aktiivne, piltidele väike aktiivne kiht peale lihtsalt nagu YT's, ja siis
juba aristotelese pihta ENDAl kirjutatud kriitiline üle vaade, ükssõna, või Su ilu instituudi süva uuring loppude lopuks Unesco tasemel selgeks teha mis ja miks ja kuidas oli ja milliseid selle kutluuri koristamist meil tasuks teha, et tolleaegsed vead siin edasi ei areneks ja juurt võtnud maaväline, vaikselt taandarenedes saaks kergelt lahkuda.
juba aristotelese pihta ENDAl kirjutatud kriitiline üle vaade, ükssõna, või Su ilu instituudi süva uuring loppude lopuks Unesco tasemel selgeks teha mis ja miks ja kuidas oli ja milliseid selle kutluuri koristamist meil tasuks teha, et tolleaegsed vead siin edasi ei areneks ja juurt võtnud maaväline, vaikselt taandarenedes saaks kergelt lahkuda.
6 December 2016 04:55
Margus Meigo commented on Maikeni Ehted's photo.
Loodame, et Aristotele oma Ajastule seda ka ise Päriselt samamoodi mõistis nagu need kellel ilu olemusest muu populaarne arusaam
6 December 2016 04:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oih, Sa alles lõpus kohal olid..
6 December 2016 04:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mäletad mu nime lugu sinuga seoses, vist rääkisin naiivnoor kommunistide vanas laagris wiikingite pärimuse järgi vaikeses stiilis
6 December 2016 04:30
Margus Meigo commented on Küllike Carroll's photo.
Te nagu erinevast liigist
6 December 2016 04:26
Margus Meigo commented on Erlend Olen's post.
6 December 2016 03:35
Margus Meigo commented on Erlend Olen's post.
vms
6 December 2016 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on Erlend Olen's post.
point selles, nagu Maiken ütleks: eelmises ja üleeelmises lauses
6 December 2016 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on Erlend Olen's post.
point selles, selle laulu see lyyrika osa ei sobi, sest see tehnoloogia mida naised valdavad, ei eelda surma üldse olemasolu allesjätmise vajalikusessegi
6 December 2016 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on Erlend Olen's post.
Muidugi mei lseda osa pole: polnud: ""If I should fall in battle my brothers who fight by my side
Gather my horse and weapons tell my family how I died
Until then I will be strong I will fight for all that is real
All who stand in my way will die by steel""
see mingi popmeedia meelituseks pantud, et väärromantilisem oleks,
et nagu põhi teema ikka seisneb , ahju soojas hoidmises ja siis kui ahi mitte soojas siis ennast soojas hoida mingi ühtse teadmisega,tundega naise keeli(+neil veel usaldus millesse nad proovivad langeda ja seda ka meile õpetada kui olulist sammu kui me nende MUU maailma reeglid selgeks opime mis teisest korgsuunast tuleb ja nii suur, et läbi esimese vigade paistab, st nende see teadus nagu nii suur mille läbi seda näitemängu, mis meie aju tõlgendab näitemänguks, enese paanika eest kaitsmisesk, et seda tõsist reaalsust, milles meie ajul vist onneks lubatud mängelda, ja meie peegel pildis näeme need naised olema mängnlevad, kuid nemad sona otseses mottes sirgelt suures plaanis oma mottes sirguvad surmast armastuse suunda),
(viimasest ma päris hästi ise ka veel aru ei saa)
ja paremini soojas hoiab seda keha ka siis kui ahi sees, see teadmine, (ja meestel nagu pigem vist ei ole lubatud siinkohal moeld,a et tunne, kuna selle esimese arusaama sirgjooneline arusaamine toodab selges toimetamises kui ideaalsed tulemused on rohkem kasu kui juba mojudalt pikka perjood mida läheks valutuks lesäratamiseks vaja, aga siis see lopp standard, mis on kylll praeguse suhtes selleks ajaks hea, kas see on siis selles levelis juba mille osas teised selleks ajaks areneda on saanud, et me oma teadvuse tasemed, ja levelid mis meite vahel ja mis toeks osutuvad, et kes kui palju rohkem selles mottes ette kursis on ja kas siis saab olla sedasi, et hoopis karm muu reaalsus Su ümber uskuma pannakse, pool väega kui muidu ei saa)
Gather my horse and weapons tell my family how I died
Until then I will be strong I will fight for all that is real
All who stand in my way will die by steel""
see mingi popmeedia meelituseks pantud, et väärromantilisem oleks,
et nagu põhi teema ikka seisneb , ahju soojas hoidmises ja siis kui ahi mitte soojas siis ennast soojas hoida mingi ühtse teadmisega,tundega naise keeli(+neil veel usaldus millesse nad proovivad langeda ja seda ka meile õpetada kui olulist sammu kui me nende MUU maailma reeglid selgeks opime mis teisest korgsuunast tuleb ja nii suur, et läbi esimese vigade paistab, st nende see teadus nagu nii suur mille läbi seda näitemängu, mis meie aju tõlgendab näitemänguks, enese paanika eest kaitsmisesk, et seda tõsist reaalsust, milles meie ajul vist onneks lubatud mängelda, ja meie peegel pildis näeme need naised olema mängnlevad, kuid nemad sona otseses mottes sirgelt suures plaanis oma mottes sirguvad surmast armastuse suunda),
(viimasest ma päris hästi ise ka veel aru ei saa)
ja paremini soojas hoiab seda keha ka siis kui ahi sees, see teadmine, (ja meestel nagu pigem vist ei ole lubatud siinkohal moeld,a et tunne, kuna selle esimese arusaama sirgjooneline arusaamine toodab selges toimetamises kui ideaalsed tulemused on rohkem kasu kui juba mojudalt pikka perjood mida läheks valutuks lesäratamiseks vaja, aga siis see lopp standard, mis on kylll praeguse suhtes selleks ajaks hea, kas see on siis selles levelis juba mille osas teised selleks ajaks areneda on saanud, et me oma teadvuse tasemed, ja levelid mis meite vahel ja mis toeks osutuvad, et kes kui palju rohkem selles mottes ette kursis on ja kas siis saab olla sedasi, et hoopis karm muu reaalsus Su ümber uskuma pannakse, pool väega kui muidu ei saa)
6 December 2016 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Only thing, that We did not have this faggot (homo) part:
"If I should fall in battle my brothers who fight by my side
Gather my horse and weapons tell my family how I died
Until then I will be strong I will fight for all that is real
All who stand in my way will die by steel"
this is infiltration of audio on production scale
https://youtu.be/IpvUqzPixAU?t=235
"If I should fall in battle my brothers who fight by my side
Gather my horse and weapons tell my family how I died
Until then I will be strong I will fight for all that is real
All who stand in my way will die by steel"
this is infiltration of audio on production scale
https://youtu.be/IpvUqzPixAU?t=235
https://youtu.be/IpvUqzPixAU?t=235
6 December 2016 03:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Here our soldiers stand from all around the world
Waiting in a line to hear the battle cry
All are gathered here victory is near
The sound will fill the hall bringing power to us all
We alone are fighting for metal that is true
We own the right to live the fight we're here for all of you
Now swear the blood upon your steel will never dry
Stand and fight together beneath the metal sky
Brothers everywhere
Raise your hands into the air
We're warriors
Warriors of the world
Like thunder from the sky
Sworn to fight and die
We're warriors
Warriors of the world
Many stand against us but they will never win
We said we would return and here we are again
To bring them all destruction suffering and pain
We are the hammer of the gods we are thunder wind and rain
There they wait in fear with swords in feeble hands
With dreams to be a king first one should be a man
I call them out and charge them all with a life that is a lie
And in their final hour they shall confess before they die
Brothers everywhere
Raise your hands into the air
We're warriors
Warriors of the world
Like thunder from the sky
Sworn to fight and die
We're warriors
Warriors of the world
If I should fall in battle my brothers who fight by my side
Gather my horse and weapons tell my family how I died
Until then I will be strong I will fight for all that is real
All who stand in my way will die by steel
Brothers everywhere
Raise your hands into the air
We're warriors
Warriors of the world
Like thunder from the sky
Sworn to fight and die
We're warriors
Warriors of the world
https://play.google.com/music/preview/Trrw7fqm2khpfn22y2kwivkc6qa?lyrics=1&utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=lyrics&pcampaignid=kp-lyrics
Waiting in a line to hear the battle cry
All are gathered here victory is near
The sound will fill the hall bringing power to us all
We alone are fighting for metal that is true
We own the right to live the fight we're here for all of you
Now swear the blood upon your steel will never dry
Stand and fight together beneath the metal sky
Brothers everywhere
Raise your hands into the air
We're warriors
Warriors of the world
Like thunder from the sky
Sworn to fight and die
We're warriors
Warriors of the world
Many stand against us but they will never win
We said we would return and here we are again
To bring them all destruction suffering and pain
We are the hammer of the gods we are thunder wind and rain
There they wait in fear with swords in feeble hands
With dreams to be a king first one should be a man
I call them out and charge them all with a life that is a lie
And in their final hour they shall confess before they die
Brothers everywhere
Raise your hands into the air
We're warriors
Warriors of the world
Like thunder from the sky
Sworn to fight and die
We're warriors
Warriors of the world
If I should fall in battle my brothers who fight by my side
Gather my horse and weapons tell my family how I died
Until then I will be strong I will fight for all that is real
All who stand in my way will die by steel
Brothers everywhere
Raise your hands into the air
We're warriors
Warriors of the world
Like thunder from the sky
Sworn to fight and die
We're warriors
Warriors of the world
https://play.google.com/music/preview/Trrw7fqm2khpfn22y2kwivkc6qa?lyrics=1&utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=lyrics&pcampaignid=kp-lyrics
6 December 2016 03:09
Margus Meigo commented on Erlend Olen's post.
Varsti panevad, Sedasi: (Südames, kus keegi peale südame, jumala enda tunneta) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpvUqzPixAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpvUqzPixAU
6 December 2016 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on Erlend Olen's post.
Päris huvitav kooliprogramm, Soone vanaema oleks võinud meid ka sellisesse koorilaulu saata, vast siis oleks vilja rohkem olnud
6 December 2016 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid seda video tsekkisid, siis päris palju neid voolab ka siin, me maa inimesed vast suudalks ka veel sama rahulikuks jääda sellises liikluses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFGkn8ShksQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFGkn8ShksQ
6 December 2016 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
partide ülestõus
see viimane vene tunkedes vanem mees ka, kes nagu peaks kartuse east juba üle olema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkgwmPUak70
see viimane vene tunkedes vanem mees ka, kes nagu peaks kartuse east juba üle olema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkgwmPUak70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkgwmPUak70
6 December 2016 02:42
Margus Meigo commented on Dadzie Isaac's post.
am blessed
5 December 2016 13:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but even talking about this kind of topic, or using a word "masculinity" makes one a gay 'er , for sure
5 December 2016 10:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
5 December 2016 10:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but work needs work to be done
5 December 2016 09:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this snake is totally not related, but based on image recotnation am sure computers would put these 2 in to one box as seems also some kind of light skinned snake that strugles with an human or something in here:
https://twitter.com/PiercedSkull/status/805560059619135489
https://twitter.com/PiercedSkull/status/805560059619135489
https://twitter.com/PiercedSkull/status/805560059619135489
5 December 2016 09:49
Margus Meigo commented on Dem Detectiveboy's post.
there is nothing to worry, they take money from all these things mentioned before, so where is a problem they ask ?
Budget is on balance.
(not about WHAT they buy but just in balance.. what is more important for number people)
Budget is on balance.
(not about WHAT they buy but just in balance.. what is more important for number people)
5 December 2016 09:38
Margus Meigo commented on Dem Detectiveboy's post.
drugs forums dod comis ka päris häid retsepte
5 December 2016 09:36
Margus Meigo commented on Dem Detectiveboy's post.
ma sain enamuse aja ikka aru, et mendid proovisid palgata räppareid et noorte kultuuri sisse penetreerida vms
5 December 2016 09:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
OMG, how good one,
" NUmber 11, is a bit hard to explain ... it is like... (in short) when you discover guy is actually lisstening you and is interested what you say "
https://youtu.be/g4vbwFwyi1s?t=284
" NUmber 11, is a bit hard to explain ... it is like... (in short) when you discover guy is actually lisstening you and is interested what you say "
https://youtu.be/g4vbwFwyi1s?t=284
https://youtu.be/g4vbwFwyi1s?t=284
5 December 2016 08:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
she will play more softer level, as Spendor who is full serious level, but..
5 December 2016 08:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
more about male Species, and long huggs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4vbwFwyi1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4vbwFwyi1s
5 December 2016 08:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid jah, meilt soovitakse pigem arusaamist
5 December 2016 07:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kasutu siis peale kahju mahaarvestamist
5 December 2016 07:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
õpitud abitus oli siin üleliigne sõna suht, kudid kui aidata spordi firmasi ja neisse suhtua nagu nad väärtuslikuga tegeleksid, siis see syvendab nende iniemste opitud abitust, kes neid ärisi ajavad, selles osas, et nad hakkavad arvama, et nad väärislisel positsioonil on, ga mida nad tegelikutltoodavad, kui on teada, et nad SELLE osa kallal töötavad mis kohe kindlasti on likvideerimise plaanis ja kasutu SELLISENA
5 December 2016 07:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
inimestelt ühesonaga küsitakse nõu kuidas neid paremini reguleerida ja turvalsiemalt ja kindlamalt võõrvõimu paika panna, et nagu seda vaja oleks. alluda
arusaamist
arusaamist
5 December 2016 07:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et nad siis inimeste reguleerimis mureks kasutavad massiliselt inimest, ja ka inimest kysisksid , kysisid nou mis organid luua tuleks, et nemad sellist infot saaksid et snad siis oskaks paremat infot tagasi meile anda , milleksi milleks neil vaja.. ja siis need organid mis heaks luuakse heade poolt kuid nende resurisside ja eesmärkidega, mis hoopis midagi muud on, nagu snnitu haiglad jms likooli pingid
5 December 2016 07:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eelnev meelega pool iroonia maigua öeldud kuid tõsiselt mõeldud siiralt,
5 December 2016 07:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
parem on mind kuulata ja ma täielikult toetan inimese mottevabadust kuid mittek ollektiivsete või isiklike motete arendamist mis kollektiivselt haiged ja juba tuntud, ette ärustaa otstud ebahead on, kuid neile siis eraldi lahendus viisid ton koheselt rakendatud, eri maal mitu moodi, inimeste endi pidi, sest kes siis ikka oskab inimprobleemidele lahendust leida kui inimesed ise endi inimeste seas,
5 December 2016 07:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
parem
5 December 2016 07:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sest nii on nagu ma ütlen
5 December 2016 07:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja kuna inimesed kardavad segadust, siis nad ei hakkagi ega soovigi, kardavatk hakata mõtlema,
teesklevad vaid aju teeringuid, sama alaväärselt mõtetuid maailma teeninguid nagu sportlased kes isegi ei plaani mitte hakata oma eluga midagi kasulikku tegema ja oma ametit maailma muutmiseks kuidagi rakendada, välja mõelda kuidas see maailmale kasulik on kui ta hüppab teiste naeruks paar meetrit liivakastis. või 10,
mingeid edasiviivaid kasulike mõtteid ja toimetamisi peaks igaüks tegema või siis üldse mitte kuid mitte massiliselt ei pea organiseerima ja riiklikult mittemidagi tegemist julgustama ja psonsoreerima nende õpitud abitust kes neid liine reguleerida saab kes otsustada saab lõplikult Riigi ENDA kanalites mis ja kuidas mängib, koos ühiskondliku arusaamade ja ühiskonna enda eliidi ja maarahva nõusolekuga, kuidas on parem.
teesklevad vaid aju teeringuid, sama alaväärselt mõtetuid maailma teeninguid nagu sportlased kes isegi ei plaani mitte hakata oma eluga midagi kasulikku tegema ja oma ametit maailma muutmiseks kuidagi rakendada, välja mõelda kuidas see maailmale kasulik on kui ta hüppab teiste naeruks paar meetrit liivakastis. või 10,
mingeid edasiviivaid kasulike mõtteid ja toimetamisi peaks igaüks tegema või siis üldse mitte kuid mitte massiliselt ei pea organiseerima ja riiklikult mittemidagi tegemist julgustama ja psonsoreerima nende õpitud abitust kes neid liine reguleerida saab kes otsustada saab lõplikult Riigi ENDA kanalites mis ja kuidas mängib, koos ühiskondliku arusaamade ja ühiskonna enda eliidi ja maarahva nõusolekuga, kuidas on parem.
5 December 2016 07:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jsut on the gounds that everyeone else seees who does
5 December 2016 06:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And 2nd
https://youtu.be/6dxFlXZ4kBw?t=6751 actually iti s repitative and just one fire ower and ower again.. and also cut down to a parts.. samples... but yea.. on that one can say "yea yea i can see u put extra wood part inthere, is nto a trick!"
(in todays world, avtual trick is calledediting, but there is difference, in real life tic and the movie one.. as long you not able to lok inside movie, what is actually around it.. when it was made this kind of law can be passed with every video work soon, that is rightto see what actually happened arund it)
https://youtu.be/6dxFlXZ4kBw?t=6751 actually iti s repitative and just one fire ower and ower again.. and also cut down to a parts.. samples... but yea.. on that one can say "yea yea i can see u put extra wood part inthere, is nto a trick!"
(in todays world, avtual trick is calledediting, but there is difference, in real life tic and the movie one.. as long you not able to lok inside movie, what is actually around it.. when it was made this kind of law can be passed with every video work soon, that is rightto see what actually happened arund it)
5 December 2016 06:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or is he?
5 December 2016 06:53
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
Is she adorable ?
5 December 2016 06:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
5 December 2016 06:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
What You know about it Meinhard ?
5 December 2016 06:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Solution: person value and profile based real life needed personalised more of invetations, specially if special or rich or important ones or related
5 December 2016 06:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and my older brother probabaly would say, he not so sure about half of the snakes part also,
5 December 2016 06:21
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
Yah, like all these dimonds,
when thinking materialistically,
literally, from the bigger point of picture that integrates also material worth and care in to,
so i basically do not agree taht whatever is old corrupts, and perhasps same is about Emerson also,
But now when You see it, it looks like Malboro,
thats not nice
when thinking materialistically,
literally, from the bigger point of picture that integrates also material worth and care in to,
so i basically do not agree taht whatever is old corrupts, and perhasps same is about Emerson also,
But now when You see it, it looks like Malboro,
thats not nice
5 December 2016 06:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(see skype mida näete saab ka reaalsuses olla teise arvuti seest ja sellepärast selline olla, kuigi nad arendasid liika selle äppi teema läbi neid asju... mis on tore aga isegi kui apid sama pakuvad siis nad lapakad ja õrnad liialt tunduvad ja süsteemile suures plaanis lopuks koormavamad ja ette jäävad)
5 December 2016 06:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oih, siia need lahtise menü valikud ei tulnud nähtavale
5 December 2016 06:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja sellised on siis Skye optinid nime all kui ta tahab popularseks saada (kui samas mottes,aga juba uus keeles sama rääkidais tehnoloogia enda mottes oli, kuid see polnud pohimote, see vaid yks viga mida suurolenditel oli milel kaudu neile muutusi selgitama oli vaja plaanis kuid kohe klogu nende maailm votab ühtse reageerinuna)
5 December 2016 06:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ebatäpsus on ka täpsusega seotud oskus kui see täpselt selgeks õppida ka oletatavatele filosoofiatele vastupidavalt, isegi kui reaalselt ei saa neid mootmeid me ise omavahel moota aga siis inimestel tänu arusaam arusaada illest nad arusaavad ja mis neist on niipalju suure,
inglid aga mitte eriti ja ei sobi neile, et nende mini versioonid nagu lopp mote oli ja et nad lihtsdalt töölised ja material, shabloon olid
inglid aga mitte eriti ja ei sobi neile, et nende mini versioonid nagu lopp mote oli ja et nad lihtsdalt töölised ja material, shabloon olid
5 December 2016 05:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
my self kind of chilling with a planket, thanking God that Kasvandik sleeps well and that mayor things are alright when looking Good
5 December 2016 05:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
some video there is ower 2 hour long. but sound quaity is so much worth compared what it can produce anyway, that having this level cheap video stream extra, that is so schap and easy to remove or play for what the audio was needed
5 December 2016 05:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
here is light:
done with a camera
done with a camera
5 December 2016 05:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
CVideo:
5 December 2016 05:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
in a westerman todays front room,
meaning in this music,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbj3ihvYEso
is on backround on this video, showing the setting where i am, when lisstening this music:
meaning in this music,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbj3ihvYEso
is on backround on this video, showing the setting where i am, when lisstening this music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbj3ihvYEso
5 December 2016 05:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
it is not as dramatic as it might see
5 December 2016 05:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
if you want to fix the relationship with these users, ever again trully, before their death
5 December 2016 05:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
sending these kind of emails under Twitter and then expecting ..this kind of person to have an interest...
oh. but now when it is done.. you need to get rid of the wrong joiners and some how wipe their memeory in emotional level and then introduce yourself again and with a different emotion and first good recotnating
oh. but now when it is done.. you need to get rid of the wrong joiners and some how wipe their memeory in emotional level and then introduce yourself again and with a different emotion and first good recotnating
5 December 2016 05:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kujtuage nüüd ette
5 December 2016 05:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja loomulikult ma arvan, et selle teksti siia edastamineon tunduvalt edumeelsem ja edukam tegevus, vajalikum kui oma kemmergu puhastamine enamasti, kui paanikat pole, ja ädapäraseid korralike välikäimlaid on ka nii, et ei pea õuest läbi isegi talvel minema, et mõnesse jõuda
(tavaline majapidamine)
(tavaline majapidamine)
5 December 2016 05:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this kind of endings, are added to a end of the news often, to close up and to invent new ending about something they clearly not seriouslly try to talk about more, is not planned in long future
5 December 2016 05:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as it will be explained around a world ,in a way, that "here is actual comanders who show that .. poor protoype... and other awesame looking tech we have .. "
"ha haa yeah alienas we are even called, the (some warm descriptive name) end's the story"
"ha haa yeah alienas we are even called, the (some warm descriptive name) end's the story"
5 December 2016 05:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
forced even if they are good, to produce news that is globally accepted why can not have right to air and to take that heat as to be ONLY one who out of original ones accept it as news.
Right now they did not even alling up to against CNN for now, but they all warmed up, as it is great task and their chanches jsut was upped, to take battle on against everyone who is on CNN CNN Heroes CNN International side
The Alternate Side
Right now they did not even alling up to against CNN for now, but they all warmed up, as it is great task and their chanches jsut was upped, to take battle on against everyone who is on CNN CNN Heroes CNN International side
The Alternate Side
5 December 2016 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
that they are kind of up to now systematically
5 December 2016 05:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In movie, Clearly the Visitors, that they Named Henry and Boby or something,
first jsut told that the ontherone left but in a way that YOU can not or not need to know about him anymore, as he was fed up or not ,he not say for out of kindness of royal worth, heights,
But sabbadges they not allow so much near more, then they need for their mission, to look as deeply as they can if that sample of humanaty was worth or not
first jsut told that the ontherone left but in a way that YOU can not or not need to know about him anymore, as he was fed up or not ,he not say for out of kindness of royal worth, heights,
But sabbadges they not allow so much near more, then they need for their mission, to look as deeply as they can if that sample of humanaty was worth or not
5 December 2016 05:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nii palju eri liike ja arusaame kes muidu ei kohtuks, aga nüd enamus neist teavad ühiskonnast ja inimkonnast ühte koma teist mis peaks lopuks koigile võrdselt olulise edasisiviiva informatsioonina arusaadev olema mis on ju suurimate ja targemate progresiivne ühine ühtlaselt moistev ja arusaadev tõde, kui seda pole siis alles areneb kuid mille nimel julgeksid hääletada mis kogu planeedi inimnahas olijate algühtseks arusaamaks peab saama, ilma, et selle levikut takistaks ükski kultus või sõjaväeetiket
5 December 2016 05:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et nad nii paljud sellele heale tasemele tõmmatud,
5 December 2016 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui eelkoige me isegi, ei oleks osanud arvata, et nii paljud mitmes muus reaalsuses, kes inimestega samale tasemele inimnahas tiritud, et neid arusaame aru saada,
5 December 2016 04:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
meie liigi sees, 24 7
5 December 2016 04:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et nende kes eliit eri hea kultuuri koolides ja maailmades, paraleelmaailmades mis pere mudelit kopeerib ja väliselt tundub et eri sotsiaalse standardiga räägitakse ja tehakse nägu nagu okupatsiooni ei toimuks
5 December 2016 04:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis vahe lobi realsuspettena on reaalsuse hoidjad kelle töö on maal siis nende sojavälaste ja muude orgtsioonide kes inimesi meedia vangis hoiab ja selle eelduseks hijackseeritud ehk kopeeritud ja oma soodu edasi veetud maailmaarusaama kantseldamine ja siis nende maailmades olevate inimeste, et nad eelkoige seda isegi aru ei saaks kui erinevas maailmas nad on ja kui erinevad oma arusaamadest mis on normaalne ja saavutatav, sest hoopis teise sortimendiga, kuid jha, kui sellele tasemele panna, siis eelkoige lemise kaadri sees on idee autorite hulgas liialt palju enamuses arusaam, et koik võrdselt samale tasemele heasse väärtustatud väärtustesse panna saab
5 December 2016 04:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tulevikku ju nad ka nägid, nad teatsid.. ja siis vaatasi, mis moodi selle asemel, tuleviku mees ja naine käituvad .. kui algelised nad on, ja siis lisavad SELLEM aailma seal lopetamisele panna, minevikust, nad sedasi tuleviust tulevad ja siis kollektiivses ajus omaarust ainult erinevad ebavajalikud ühiskonnavormid likvideerivad, kus moodavad kas liik on piisavalt tark ja arenemisvoimeline, aus ja ilus, puhas,
selles filmis sis mis reaal kaadritena mitmes muus nurgas ka vaadatav, // vast eks, muidugi Hillari ei saanud seega ei lubatud..koiki... loomulikult sojaväleastele luuakse arusaam nagu nemad päris reaal muus arusaamas on aga tegelikult on see ainult nende pere ja nende meedia haardes sedasi, sest nende ymber saab olla asetatud suurlaagrid kuhu seisse ehitatud et kui vaja siis näidatakse neile muud meediat ainult, mud ei tehta suurt, (igasugused sellised asjad.. oluliste vanematega lapsed näiteks, kes siin teiste maailmade keskel, ausalt elavad kui hoopis muu maailma kesklainel, nägemata nende erinevusi ja sarnasusi)//
motles tuleviku reisja, et nad aru saaks, kuna materialiseeruti, siis ka nende kehad, ja v
selles filmis sis mis reaal kaadritena mitmes muus nurgas ka vaadatav, // vast eks, muidugi Hillari ei saanud seega ei lubatud..koiki... loomulikult sojaväleastele luuakse arusaam nagu nemad päris reaal muus arusaamas on aga tegelikult on see ainult nende pere ja nende meedia haardes sedasi, sest nende ymber saab olla asetatud suurlaagrid kuhu seisse ehitatud et kui vaja siis näidatakse neile muud meediat ainult, mud ei tehta suurt, (igasugused sellised asjad.. oluliste vanematega lapsed näiteks, kes siin teiste maailmade keskel, ausalt elavad kui hoopis muu maailma kesklainel, nägemata nende erinevusi ja sarnasusi)//
motles tuleviku reisja, et nad aru saaks, kuna materialiseeruti, siis ka nende kehad, ja v
5 December 2016 04:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
FIlmi kohta, kas sind ka häiris, et tulnar näitas ilmselgelt "perekond/sex/union/" oma esimese suure tagasimärgiga kus selgeks oli tehtud mees ja naine
5 December 2016 04:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
saab ju tarkvara teha nii, et saaks nii nagu vaja,
5 December 2016 04:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ai.. ikka tuli väikselt.. miks see fb teeb nii, et ei tee nii nagu ette sai kokku lepitud ja seda mida oleks vaja, ah?
5 December 2016 04:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kogusumma
5 December 2016 04:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid suurem osa sumisejaid ise ka ei arvestanud, milline on nende summa
5 December 2016 04:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ses mõttes, et ka liberaalne liik, aga loodud väärtustest, ja seega inimeseks uuesti ilusti tõstetav,
5 December 2016 04:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
like You can see, people can share their privat screens and not really share or expose anything at all
5 December 2016 04:37
Margus Meigo commented on Karima Sutaeva's photo.
Vot eta da!
Voot kus see on alles lugu! (innuka töntsi maanoormehe-likult ilu hinnates, vahest osad ei saa aru isegi mida logusi neil ei sünni panna sinna ligi mis isegi kui sobiksid siis oma ebailult sellega mida näidata on soovitud, ei sobiks.
(ei sobiks sellegam ida näidata on soovinud algnäitaja, need osad vapid isegi kui nende taga oleks kasvanud reaalsed inimolendid les või me liitlased))
Voot kus see on alles lugu! (innuka töntsi maanoormehe-likult ilu hinnates, vahest osad ei saa aru isegi mida logusi neil ei sünni panna sinna ligi mis isegi kui sobiksid siis oma ebailult sellega mida näidata on soovitud, ei sobiks.
(ei sobiks sellegam ida näidata on soovinud algnäitaja, need osad vapid isegi kui nende taga oleks kasvanud reaalsed inimolendid les või me liitlased))
5 December 2016 04:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ettevaatust nende üldHaarde kommunistlik kapitalistlik üldteaduslikude raadiojaama lainete ja arusaamadega mis millegi korgeima oigust kuulutavad voi sama suure oiguslaslikult käituda (sellega oli see muu osa olulisem mis öelda tahtsin, peale seda)
lubavad,
endal või teistel,
siis kui selline suur tuleb ja kasutab teiste arusaamade arendamiseks üllatusi või meelega shokilisemalt - MASSIDEST rääkides,
erandi eriolukorrad on hoopis aga isikuliste suhete ja projektide osas, kus mingi valitsus on andnud firmadele õiguse ligipääseda minig maakonna nurga inimeste peal miskeid käitumisi või aineid testida ilma, et keegi teask, et puhast ilusat tõde teada saada ilma teaduse kallutuseta, --- ... ja see vale alati toiminud nii pikalto n, sest armastus on tõene, teadus on ka armastus kuid ..
lubavad,
endal või teistel,
siis kui selline suur tuleb ja kasutab teiste arusaamade arendamiseks üllatusi või meelega shokilisemalt - MASSIDEST rääkides,
erandi eriolukorrad on hoopis aga isikuliste suhete ja projektide osas, kus mingi valitsus on andnud firmadele õiguse ligipääseda minig maakonna nurga inimeste peal miskeid käitumisi või aineid testida ilma, et keegi teask, et puhast ilusat tõde teada saada ilma teaduse kallutuseta, --- ... ja see vale alati toiminud nii pikalto n, sest armastus on tõene, teadus on ka armastus kuid ..
5 December 2016 04:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga Mitmed arusaamad saavad arusaadavad olla arusaajale ka ainult siis kui ta selle olulisema osa olulist lihtsust seletama peab, kergelt
5 December 2016 03:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nagu "va leiutis" vms ilusamat,
kuid sedameeles pidada tuleb, et see mitme meele kihina mitmeaegselt mitmetele eel on ja mone eraldi asja osas veel kogu nende maailma jumalale lähenemise ja arusaamise lopik targeim lahendus, mis enamustel ammu oli olemas,
kuid sedameeles pidada tuleb, et see mitme meele kihina mitmeaegselt mitmetele eel on ja mone eraldi asja osas veel kogu nende maailma jumalale lähenemise ja arusaamise lopik targeim lahendus, mis enamustel ammu oli olemas,
5 December 2016 03:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aega saab ka ette võtvalt tagasi ulatuvalt kasutada
5 December 2016 03:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(eelmise ja üleeelmse sonumi vahel väike pooleteise poole minutiline vahe hoida)
5 December 2016 03:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et aru saad
5 December 2016 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
on nii suur, et annab hea tunde
5 December 2016 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siis see informatsiooni maht,mid a komost ruudustikudena läbi kammides läbi töötled
5 December 2016 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja suures pildis asju läbi kosmose ja kõiki osakesi arusaades kasvõi lamedalt ruudustikuna läbi kammides,
5 December 2016 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja palju muudgi turvaliselt, nii et lopupilt mis uurida jääb on ilma sabata kuid ilusasti vajalik, näiteks mõnikord
5 December 2016 03:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see lukustab lahti uue noorte kultuuriga seotud olnud kajastuse ja
5 December 2016 03:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ü tuleb üli iliusasti hääldada eelmise lause maandumise paremaks tabamiseks
5 December 2016 03:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja seega kui keegi ennast on soovinud kuhu iganes milliste tippude ligi astuda ja istuda,
siis moelde neid, kelle tarbeks, kelle olulisema tööö tarbeks, st selles mottes kui nad valmis saaksid ja siis need mis need töökohad väärt on, toimivas kohas, ... sabistades saab madala moraalse väärtuse meediapildis hoida teisi , vahest isegi vangistatusena mingi x valitsuse eri projekti testi jaoks mdia nag üliharva teevad
siis moelde neid, kelle tarbeks, kelle olulisema tööö tarbeks, st selles mottes kui nad valmis saaksid ja siis need mis need töökohad väärt on, toimivas kohas, ... sabistades saab madala moraalse väärtuse meediapildis hoida teisi , vahest isegi vangistatusena mingi x valitsuse eri projekti testi jaoks mdia nag üliharva teevad
5 December 2016 03:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid valele inimesele lugemiseks ja nägemiseks anda asja vastutustundetult siis kes ikkagi selles süüdi on, kas süü saab olla mis iganes suur kui vajalikust polnud
5 December 2016 03:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(keeleliselt eelmine sonum oli syyypuhtalt karmavabalt naiste kausks ja ainuilma läbi nende ainult voimalikuks saav selliselt, sellise iluga)
- ja see sonum on selleks, et esmaselt sellele tasemele jõudjad, seda siin lugema peaksid, kellele sele välja kirjutama peab
- ja see sonum on selleks, et esmaselt sellele tasemele jõudjad, seda siin lugema peaksid, kellele sele välja kirjutama peab
5 December 2016 03:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Amy Winehouse- Valerie
Oih, selle pildi panna soovisin tegelikult,
kuid teises op systeemis control V alt tuli hoopis mitte ekraanikas, mis kohe automaatselt ise pildi voi kuskile root direktorisse jookseb laiali, või
ega päros kindel olla ei saa kuidas need pildid tekivad,
kuid see kanal on moeldud ainult inimestele,
need kes selles osas mus olulises oragnisatsioonis toimetavad,
ja kelle org see paanikat tekitab, kuid kes paanikani on välja jõudnud ehk siis teab mille le meiega seosespaanitseda, siis peab temale koheset abi andma arusaamaks, et me nimi pole Klaarika
Oih, selle pildi panna soovisin tegelikult,
kuid teises op systeemis control V alt tuli hoopis mitte ekraanikas, mis kohe automaatselt ise pildi voi kuskile root direktorisse jookseb laiali, või
ega päros kindel olla ei saa kuidas need pildid tekivad,
kuid see kanal on moeldud ainult inimestele,
need kes selles osas mus olulises oragnisatsioonis toimetavad,
ja kelle org see paanikat tekitab, kuid kes paanikani on välja jõudnud ehk siis teab mille le meiega seosespaanitseda, siis peab temale koheset abi andma arusaamaks, et me nimi pole Klaarika
5 December 2016 03:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(maalimisega juba harjutan)
5 December 2016 03:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
varsti opin joonistamise ka selgeks
5 December 2016 03:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid samas tegelikult kui riistvaralisem otlemisega inimesed asuvad probleemi edasi motlema, siis asuvad nad seda edasi ka siis motlema kui tegu digitaalse problee
5 December 2016 03:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siit alustuseks tueks vaatama hakata, ega see poletrik ja vb hoops "va" kokkukirjutatult voi vaarao nimega seonduvalt mingi suur pole mis kuidagi digimeestega koostöös teades on mingi suur number mis iganes pidi nad seda loevad, ja lamedate vordlemispunktide valimisest ma parem ei hakka ldse rääkimagi, endiselt langedes, kuni praktikani,või praktilisuseni jõuame, vahet pole, nende arengutase, et mis maailma nad olemasolus käsitleVad, on niivord väikle et saab kindlasse katekoorjasse pannsa ja piisavalt suur kohalikus ajas, et märkimisväärselt
5 December 2016 03:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lahendus:
5 December 2016 03:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eesti 80nd
5 December 2016 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja yks teine on see pika emotsioonitundelise hüüüüdega
5 December 2016 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siin katkestasin
4 December 2016 08:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(ja jus siis uli see keele film ka kinos,
4 December 2016 08:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sest eisaada nagu aru, et ega oige suunalise kasutus oligi hppelaud hoopis molemale korgema leeli jaoks edasi
4 December 2016 08:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei see pole ka see päris õige
4 December 2016 08:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või siis see laul,
4 December 2016 08:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
uiii uiii uiii
4 December 2016 08:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
brcome to my frirnd
4 December 2016 08:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oma elu väline st
4 December 2016 08:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
urr miks selle laulu meloodiast mis peas täielikult alatoonidega ei sa rohkem kätte kui seda ühte sõna ainult..
eks neid asju saab ka testida mis info pideval statistiliselt rohkem peast ära laekub, selle info osas mis endale vajalik vs mis eluväline info
eks neid asju saab ka testida mis info pideval statistiliselt rohkem peast ära laekub, selle info osas mis endale vajalik vs mis eluväline info
4 December 2016 08:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: London Social Society
as a club but more hard to find all single, night out lookers ?
But start sounds interesting4 December 2016 08:02
Margus Meigo commented on Gaia London's post.
Group: London Social Society
Yes Sounds , Much more clear4 December 2016 08:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Protect Her Soul
4 December 2016 07:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but now when it is song by a women.. Hmm..
(just will try to weight a personal trama value and global law fittings)
(just will try to weight a personal trama value and global law fittings)
4 December 2016 07:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
4 December 2016 07:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
86 my sound but mostl likelly.. wil looks up
(really small feeling for it..)
(really small feeling for it..)
4 December 2016 07:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kind of strong end of 80s
4 December 2016 07:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Guy is sinding, the melody or chours part at least related to world MeLo-Di
4 December 2016 07:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja see põhi asi mis murettekitav, nad nagu üksteise kloonid, ehk teatavasti mitte paljunevad ja mitte eriti juurde andvad üksteisele:
"homologous (adj.) Look up homologous at Dictionary.com
"having the same position, value, structure, etc.," 1650s, from Latinized form of Greek homologos "agreeing, of one mind," from homos "same" (see homo- (1)) + logos "relation, reasoning, computation,"
"homologous (adj.) Look up homologous at Dictionary.com
"having the same position, value, structure, etc.," 1650s, from Latinized form of Greek homologos "agreeing, of one mind," from homos "same" (see homo- (1)) + logos "relation, reasoning, computation,"
http://dictionary.com/
4 December 2016 07:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja sellised meedia parandmais süsteemid mis meil tulekul millises iganes Tulevikus loppude lopuks, võib olla alguses suts ohtlikuna tunduv, kui teadmised nii pilla pallaa on kui veel neil aegadel kus selle vajadusega puudub nõusolek
https://youtu.be/5KPReXLv7pQ?list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&t=262
Minut 4
https://youtu.be/5KPReXLv7pQ?list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&t=262
Minut 4
https://youtu.be/5KPReXLv7pQ?list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&t=262
4 December 2016 07:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
avalikuse ette tulemist teaduse enda infot st
4 December 2016 06:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
DNA voi RNA varjatsioone, yhe liigi kontekstis
https://youtu.be/GJQPr-rZyaY?list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&t=117
Kas kommunismus arvab, et sab süva oma enda geenide info avalikuse eest tulemist takistada v
https://youtu.be/GJQPr-rZyaY?list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&t=117
Kas kommunismus arvab, et sab süva oma enda geenide info avalikuse eest tulemist takistada v
https://youtu.be/GJQPr-rZyaY?list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&t=117
4 December 2016 06:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Homo sapiens (n.) :
Homo as the genus of the human race, within the order Primates, was formally instituted in Modern Latin 1758 by Linnaeus (originally also including chimpanzees). Used since in various Latin or pseudo-Latin combinations intended to emphasize some aspect of humanity, as in Henri Bergson's Homo faber "man the tool-maker" (in "L'Evolution Créatrice", 1907).
Homo sapiens (n.) : the genus of human beings, 1802, in William Turton's translation of Linnæus, coined in Modern Latin from Latin homo "man" (technically "male human," but in logical and scholastic writing "human being;" see homunculus) + sapiens, present participle of sapere "be wise" (see sapient).
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=homo
Homo as the genus of the human race, within the order Primates, was formally instituted in Modern Latin 1758 by Linnaeus (originally also including chimpanzees). Used since in various Latin or pseudo-Latin combinations intended to emphasize some aspect of humanity, as in Henri Bergson's Homo faber "man the tool-maker" (in "L'Evolution Créatrice", 1907).
Homo sapiens (n.) : the genus of human beings, 1802, in William Turton's translation of Linnæus, coined in Modern Latin from Latin homo "man" (technically "male human," but in logical and scholastic writing "human being;" see homunculus) + sapiens, present participle of sapere "be wise" (see sapient).
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=homo
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=homo
4 December 2016 06:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Yes, i know Homo means human
4 December 2016 06:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
".Naine on
kohale lennanud arst, kes soovib päästa metsikut Maad.
//muidugi abiliseks saab ta endale selle kelle jaoks ennast peab ümber seadistama vahest või arvab nii ja kes ei saa tegelikult ka ilma tEMAta suures plaanis olla, hakkama ega Naiselegi.
Meestel mingi arusaam nagu nende sünd oleks setud naistega, kui küsida kellega esimehed mehed magasid, ega neid ka üksikuna naturaalselt ei lastud paljuneda ju, mitu maailma korraga ja just maailmasi ka veel, ja ianult need osad jäävad loovusesse alles mida vaja on// Loodusesse, Loodusse.
edasi,
...päästa metsikut Maad.
lambakasukas mees on lendur, rüüd kandev kuju aga Siberi shamaan.
// siia vahele segati muu ülesehitus kui mehe naise vaheline esiteks, et selle tarkuse tip nurk ära väänata kommunismi lamp idee peale//
shamaan, kes kummardab teaduse ja progressi jõudude ees, //(siinkohalt shamaan maha ka suruda eemale suurjõudude elusana arvestamisest))//
,mida kehtestab Nõukogude Communism
// So they try to crab a reallity lenght and put in to their bag, but they do not have actual bag but haf knowin theories and technology parts but not about our actual world
kohale lennanud arst, kes soovib päästa metsikut Maad.
//muidugi abiliseks saab ta endale selle kelle jaoks ennast peab ümber seadistama vahest või arvab nii ja kes ei saa tegelikult ka ilma tEMAta suures plaanis olla, hakkama ega Naiselegi.
Meestel mingi arusaam nagu nende sünd oleks setud naistega, kui küsida kellega esimehed mehed magasid, ega neid ka üksikuna naturaalselt ei lastud paljuneda ju, mitu maailma korraga ja just maailmasi ka veel, ja ianult need osad jäävad loovusesse alles mida vaja on// Loodusesse, Loodusse.
edasi,
...päästa metsikut Maad.
lambakasukas mees on lendur, rüüd kandev kuju aga Siberi shamaan.
// siia vahele segati muu ülesehitus kui mehe naise vaheline esiteks, et selle tarkuse tip nurk ära väänata kommunismi lamp idee peale//
shamaan, kes kummardab teaduse ja progressi jõudude ees, //(siinkohalt shamaan maha ka suruda eemale suurjõudude elusana arvestamisest))//
,mida kehtestab Nõukogude Communism
// So they try to crab a reallity lenght and put in to their bag, but they do not have actual bag but haf knowin theories and technology parts but not about our actual world
4 December 2016 05:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
bdw see shamaani asi mis lugeda soovitasin on liiga karmi kom eliit shargooni mitmekohise kesta sees peidus kus iga ninatark arvab nägemat see enda oma olema, ka vaebnlased, kirja sissem itu kihtui pandud nagu vanasti paeltaga.. nad nyyd kardeti, et ka kirja panema neid arusaame hakati, seepärast liberaalid ka mass Peruulasste likvideerimistj a sundsteriliseeirmist tegid ja tirikitasid neid ka, sest ainult teatud pere keelt rääkivaid naisi enamasti steriliseeriti oigustuwsega et siis majanudse keskmine tõuseb. Kuna vaesmaid pole.
Seda programmi mitmed need sobrad armastanud ja vaikides toetanud kaasa minnes argusest ja pigem vastaspoolele kaasa aidanud, vot need tuleb kinni püüda
Seda programmi mitmed need sobrad armastanud ja vaikides toetanud kaasa minnes argusest ja pigem vastaspoolele kaasa aidanud, vot need tuleb kinni püüda
4 December 2016 05:44
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kus, Nad veel pole
4 December 2016 05:41
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
4 December 2016 05:41
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
see kultuuri näide oli inimeste meeleharjutuseks, näitamaks mida on võimalik tõestada juba ainuksi selle nimel, kui suuresti Vene algupära Normanide ja Roomlaste sopradega kokku puutuvad, kes paljud ka kentsakatena aktsepteritud ja austatud
4 December 2016 05:40
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Mis moodi haigusel minuga pistmist on ?
4 December 2016 05:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja juba 80 ndatel pooled abielud suudeti purustada va need kelle meelte purustamiseks ettemääratud katkine abielu suunatud oli, kultuuri lohkumiseks, midagi drastilist pidi ju tulema... ei saanud aru mis
4 December 2016 05:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oi kuidas saab olla nii süvalat pandud
eeelmises mehe naise osas eriti ... toorelt meie suur psyhhika maailmades toimivate systeemide osas..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PS5NP-eP1s
eeelmises mehe naise osas eriti ... toorelt meie suur psyhhika maailmades toimivate systeemide osas..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PS5NP-eP1s
4 December 2016 05:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mitmes eri osas, ületamatult siis kui enam olema ei peaks
4 December 2016 05:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
meestega kaasas käiva mainimisega
4 December 2016 05:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oi karmid palad, mehed, karmid palad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKn8U1LiSpc
enne eda palju materjai juba https://youtu.be/EKn8U1LiSpc?t=243
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKn8U1LiSpc
enne eda palju materjai juba https://youtu.be/EKn8U1LiSpc?t=243
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKn8U1LiSpc
4 December 2016 05:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nõukogude liidu seletus pole lihtne anda kuid see arstist Lubatu piires on suutnud enamuse arusaadavast konstruktist kokku panna
4 December 2016 04:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
them
4 December 2016 04:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
..help with making this story more nicer
// muidugi see vihje kultuuri ja vene kohta oli Rooma impeeriumi mis homolik ja tulnarite kohta, kellel hodus vist, kuid ega kultuuri lopp product ei pea olema homolik, ega isegi alati mite baabelik.. ... nagu ka KGB kõik org ei pea olema KGB poolsed vöäliselt ja inimeste sisult, ... vaid loodud selleks milleks nende tegijal seda naturaalsust misiganes suunas vaja läheb v läks, või milleks kujunes planeerimatult ja lubati jääda
// kuid yeah, sorry kuisiiin üleliia maapinda solvasin, poldplaanis
// muidugi see vihje kultuuri ja vene kohta oli Rooma impeeriumi mis homolik ja tulnarite kohta, kellel hodus vist, kuid ega kultuuri lopp product ei pea olema homolik, ega isegi alati mite baabelik.. ... nagu ka KGB kõik org ei pea olema KGB poolsed vöäliselt ja inimeste sisult, ... vaid loodud selleks milleks nende tegijal seda naturaalsust misiganes suunas vaja läheb v läks, või milleks kujunes planeerimatult ja lubati jääda
// kuid yeah, sorry kuisiiin üleliia maapinda solvasin, poldplaanis
4 December 2016 04:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui need muidugi meie omad siis liitume nii kiiresti kui saame
4 December 2016 04:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Minul on ammu plaanis olnud Eesti rikaste kaudu ära osata.. kuid ma lasen enne paar korda ära osta, ja siis alles ostma hakata, Kuni ostjaid pole enam
4 December 2016 04:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
4 December 2016 04:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oppeprogrammikssee hea koolidesse, kuan soome stiili haridus nagunii kaiku läheb, loodame, et KGB hypnaatorid, mass hypnaatorid siis seda systeemi penetreerivad pole selleks ajaks kui hariduse uus programm täiliku uue stabiilsuse saanud on
4 December 2016 04:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Saksakeele tolke osas usinad peaksime olema
4 December 2016 04:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oi jah !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA1jfTl7Aws&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA1jfTl7Aws&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA1jfTl7Aws&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=27
4 December 2016 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oi jah !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA1jfTl7Aws&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA1jfTl7Aws&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA1jfTl7Aws&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=27
4 December 2016 04:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ei ole selle kõigega veel täis kogemusi üles kogunud muutmise rakendamiseks, kuid
4 December 2016 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
4 December 2016 03:53
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
Listist, Praegu vaatan energeetikast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUFRBcRfJjM&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X#t=20.994231
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUFRBcRfJjM&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X#t=20.994231
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUFRBcRfJjM&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X#t=20.994231
4 December 2016 03:41
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
See oli rohkem nagu Clintoni staatus kui ufade asjaajama hakkas,
4 December 2016 03:28
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
oi milline eluring
4 December 2016 01:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ei saanutki, sooda oli otsas
4 December 2016 01:49
Margus Meigo replied to Hevely Koppel's comment.
kasuvlaps,
laps mida kasvatad, nagu noorsoo üles kasatamine
laps mida kasvatad, nagu noorsoo üles kasatamine
4 December 2016 01:47
Margus Meigo commented on Hevely Koppel's post.
Just tulin Apollost, oppisin uue keele, suts, to tulnarite film
3 December 2016 17:22
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
Anne-Mari Anderson is ?
3 December 2016 17:18
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
neid, on oodatud leid
3 December 2016 17:17
Margus Meigo replied to Marianna Pro's comment.
(actually...) the stones are IN the water...
3 December 2016 17:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
my mother think this video is so fake and not real Hitler eve on the image but he was a bit influenced mood also when giving opinion2 December 2016 08:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
but need to cook some cakes now, for the munchies are
just the work flow is so great but gotta remember to treat your own body and some other body also2 December 2016 08:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and also at times many others, old and yong ones was on level or near to it, the level that counts in the end
2 December 2016 08:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but then of course, most of the women, /was on level in whole long term potential/ was not able to get to know all, but personally near to no one, this part of the trip was interesting
2 December 2016 08:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but on hes level humans was hard to find, just one random was, a also SA girl , black one
2 December 2016 08:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
one of my bests, Song, the Black J
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201783024794070&set=rpd.1135161043&type=3&theater
best meetings of few humans
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201783024794070&set=rpd.1135161043&type=3&theater
best meetings of few humans
2 December 2016 08:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 December 2016 08:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Wanted to ask, if this kind of video should humans in planet to be allowed to do, ONLY based on this what is in the video, or JUST based that arrest command should be executed?
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/o.437626852950239/10210220102595742/?type=2&theater¬if_t=video_processed¬if_id=1480659935465879
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/videos/o.437626852950239/10210220102595742/?type=2&theater¬if_t=video_processed¬if_id=1480659935465879
2 December 2016 08:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
sometimes it feels like media could lie to you,
about even any big world human related event,
even about Hitler, and Drugs and ...ohh, no about these things they talk Truth, like about Love and...
Well, how come, is they not part of understanding, it is the Most important ? So How come this can less then in center to be ?2 December 2016 08:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
that this music is Good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SImdg8Zp5zs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SImdg8Zp5zs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SImdg8Zp5zs
2 December 2016 08:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 December 2016 08:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and even they say this time world in America had not invented proper color camera, here is half color video that was saved, but this time to remove all the material is impossible you know, as this what was left, is in so many places now with everything else what is grown out of us and shared,
So even they made great effort to record it on video in a ways that in future will be seen the true truth.. before movies of these kind, he really was talking like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOXKXHbBd3I
So even they made great effort to record it on video in a ways that in future will be seen the true truth.. before movies of these kind, he really was talking like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOXKXHbBd3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOXKXHbBd3I
2 December 2016 08:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey, gotta go cooking now
2 December 2016 08:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
let some one fast analyze also, is there a difference on what side of man and women, is on the pictures
2 December 2016 08:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
It is real as well right?
But perhaps we should ban this kind of pictures, what You think ?
It makes look in a picture as it is beautiful,
and it also looks like all three really are in true happiness for a moment, making them look good.
So should that kind of display be banned?
In German for example, if some kid is not trained to know, that by law is not allowed to say sentence "i love Hitler" or naturally liking him as a human, so kids above 12 at least, should get a prison sentence for that.
This is current liberal lav in former Socialist project Germany aria. Even if it is not common practice it is common enough for victims to know some other victims who also have been arrested for being human
But perhaps we should ban this kind of pictures, what You think ?
It makes look in a picture as it is beautiful,
and it also looks like all three really are in true happiness for a moment, making them look good.
So should that kind of display be banned?
In German for example, if some kid is not trained to know, that by law is not allowed to say sentence "i love Hitler" or naturally liking him as a human, so kids above 12 at least, should get a prison sentence for that.
This is current liberal lav in former Socialist project Germany aria. Even if it is not common practice it is common enough for victims to know some other victims who also have been arrested for being human
2 December 2016 08:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
2 December 2016 07:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Selleks muidugi on vaja veel palu uksi avada ja teadmiste kasutamist kasutama hakata
2 December 2016 07:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aga, et nad nagu nii eriliselt head, et lausa arvestavad inimesega ja lisaks veel inimeste tehtud gruppidega ka.
Muidugi igale grupile inimõigusi kehtestada, siis peavad need õigused ikka õige täpselt olema määratletud, et elutule asjale või isikule õigeid õigusi saab rakendada, ehk siis ühtlasi mis sobiks nii elusale kui elutule, ehk sisi seaduse ülejäänud osad pohi argumendi ymber on sättinud käitumiste kooskola sedasi, et sobib ja saab hakkama seaduse ja grupi või inimese kokkupuude igasuguse erineva tuju ja ilmaga.
Muidugi igale grupile inimõigusi kehtestada, siis peavad need õigused ikka õige täpselt olema määratletud, et elutule asjale või isikule õigeid õigusi saab rakendada, ehk siis ühtlasi mis sobiks nii elusale kui elutule, ehk sisi seaduse ülejäänud osad pohi argumendi ymber on sättinud käitumiste kooskola sedasi, et sobib ja saab hakkama seaduse ja grupi või inimese kokkupuude igasuguse erineva tuju ja ilmaga.
2 December 2016 07:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ainult psühopaat saaks midagi sellist päriselt mõelda, kui lausest aru saab ise mis ütles:
"Saksa Liitvabariigi president Roman Herzog täiendas: „Ka kõige ilusam ja tugevam riik pole midagi väärt, kui selles ei arvestata pidevalt üksikisikute ja gruppide inimõigustega” (Põhiseadus ja Põhiseaduse Assamblee, lk 315) "
Ehk siis ta arvas, et saab olla võimalik, et riik on ilus ja tugev, või lausa kõige ilusam ja tugevamate hulgas ning samal ajal mitte arvestada saaks inimestega.
"Saksa Liitvabariigi president Roman Herzog täiendas: „Ka kõige ilusam ja tugevam riik pole midagi väärt, kui selles ei arvestata pidevalt üksikisikute ja gruppide inimõigustega” (Põhiseadus ja Põhiseaduse Assamblee, lk 315) "
Ehk siis ta arvas, et saab olla võimalik, et riik on ilus ja tugev, või lausa kõige ilusam ja tugevamate hulgas ning samal ajal mitte arvestada saaks inimestega.
2 December 2016 07:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ennast kiitmast me ei väsi, kui ka väsime siis puhkame ja alustame jälle uuesti,
"Põhiseaduse II peatükk hõlmab 48 paragrahvi, moodustades rohkem kui veerandi PS mahust. Niivõrd põhjalik sätestamine annab tunnistust PS teksti autorite kindlast sihist tagada Eesti Vabariigis võimalikult ulatuslik üksikisiku õiguste kaitse ning taastada Eestis tsiviilühiskond. „Selle järgi, kuidas põhiõigused ja -vabadused on põhiseaduses kajastamist leidnud, võib hinnata ühiskonda” "
Asoo, et 48 paragravi piir, mis mahult siis märgatav kogus, peaks kuidagi määrama seda mis moodi aru saadakse kes on inimene ja milliseid vabadusi kuidas tal tarvis on
http://seadusandlus.blogspot.com.ee/2016/12/pohioigused-vabadused-ja-kohustused.html
"Põhiseaduse II peatükk hõlmab 48 paragrahvi, moodustades rohkem kui veerandi PS mahust. Niivõrd põhjalik sätestamine annab tunnistust PS teksti autorite kindlast sihist tagada Eesti Vabariigis võimalikult ulatuslik üksikisiku õiguste kaitse ning taastada Eestis tsiviilühiskond. „Selle järgi, kuidas põhiõigused ja -vabadused on põhiseaduses kajastamist leidnud, võib hinnata ühiskonda” "
Asoo, et 48 paragravi piir, mis mahult siis märgatav kogus, peaks kuidagi määrama seda mis moodi aru saadakse kes on inimene ja milliseid vabadusi kuidas tal tarvis on
http://seadusandlus.blogspot.com.ee/2016/12/pohioigused-vabadused-ja-kohustused.html
http://seadusandlus.blogspot.com.ee/2016/12/pohioigused-vabadused-ja-kohustused.html
2 December 2016 07:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Chapter 2 in Estonia
II PEATÜKK
PÕHIÕIGUSED, VABADUSED JA KOHUSTUSED
Sissejuhatus.
1. Põhiseaduse II peatükk hõlmab 48 paragrahvi, moodustades rohkem kui veerandi PS mahust. Niivõrd põhjalik sätestamine annab tunnistust PS teksti autorite kindlast sihist tagada Eesti Vabariigis võimalikult ulatuslik üksikisiku õiguste kaitse ning taastada Eestis tsiviilühiskond. „Selle järgi, kuidas põhiõigused ja -vabadused on põhiseaduses kajastamist leidnud, võib hinnata ühiskonda”
http://www.pohiseadus.ee/ptk-2/
II PEATÜKK
PÕHIÕIGUSED, VABADUSED JA KOHUSTUSED
Sissejuhatus.
1. Põhiseaduse II peatükk hõlmab 48 paragrahvi, moodustades rohkem kui veerandi PS mahust. Niivõrd põhjalik sätestamine annab tunnistust PS teksti autorite kindlast sihist tagada Eesti Vabariigis võimalikult ulatuslik üksikisiku õiguste kaitse ning taastada Eestis tsiviilühiskond. „Selle järgi, kuidas põhiõigused ja -vabadused on põhiseaduses kajastamist leidnud, võib hinnata ühiskonda”
http://www.pohiseadus.ee/ptk-2/
http://www.pohiseadus.ee/ptk-2/
2 December 2016 07:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In larger, Chapter 2 :
http://marguswaffa.blogspot.com.ee/2016/12/article-17-rights-and-freedoms-of-man.html
http://marguswaffa.blogspot.com.ee/2016/12/article-17-rights-and-freedoms-of-man.html
2 December 2016 07:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
like just looking something like that: https://archive.org/stream/bub_gb_s_lCAAAAcAAJ/bub_gb_s_lCAAAAcAAJ_djvu.txt
"hmm.. what is that... "
"hmm.. what is that... "
https://archive.org/stream/bub_gb_s_lCAAAAcAAJ/bub_gb_s_lCAAAAcAAJ_djvu.txt
2 December 2016 07:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and in that way it is equal but still including and using something in something that should be opposite but help each other in a way that pulling each other out from warious small reallaty holes is a snap
2 December 2016 06:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 December 2016 06:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// please fix and translate this letter for Yourself Vlad.
Okey, i lost first letter in here, i hope You have Draft saver inplemented in to this website box for you would see how letter was build, what was told,
something about right click menu on mice is blocked so the can not choose Spell Checker on your website also bothers, as it is to strange thing to ,
Sounds like spy movie, :D
but yes, can we make some good E-residence thing in Russia that would for Estonians apply same way as for rest of the world the Estonia,
Residence would have electronically update system and the simple card from limited power of only allowing to access to a bank account or rent a apartemant in Russia, up to phone records and looking who you own money and what is contact info and small help access for giving advice about what is seen.
and services what come with it besides your car registration updating and needed medical info, blood type, army calls,
if you choose to connect your database to it - one time action by agreeing Your data be uploaded to Big Network,
these data banks are physically disconectable, , and connecting is safe as it happens in gov server with out much of reinventing current networks, even making them lighter but richer on data.
But as of National Interest i can not start to work With You directly at first before trust is with all, so maybe some local Russian ideology holder from another land language
this would be, in case these events we do do become real enought so we would need to share contact, so You would know, if it is non agreeable then for upfront , and when it is un agreeable, then agreement is know to be just when whatever is still to do will get fixed.
But there is so much more to do,
We are not slow ordinary way, as they say,
But i have personally issue with ROman-Greek related and The Wikings-Vulgaars(ed)e, kultuuride elements that distort and almost have killed the natural country original village life
SO You know, about what we are, and on what level we measure is culture worth to keep in the end, even if they are whatever size
--- --- ---
I just choose one random picture, honestly, have not wear a this kind of hat for long, just for logo,and for a USA drilling event, for water this time. more clean picture in FaceBook. For this book We can do, will have platform where Russian and US platforms dominate equally by not limited finance or computer power or even electrisity involved, But pure intelligence and Goodness will involve and fix destiny of the virtual network opinion that also regulate original resources, that what is chanaged, will be accepted by everyone else , for example one community company is owned by these who they was critical before, so public acceptance is recuired, and explenation of change of mind, so no one can say in to confusion.
China ahas some kind of version, kind of working well, brilliantly at first, but only involves small part of interactions comapred to system that we are to build a control panel (for it) so simple, that normal human can use it Always wit h something what is worth even for these who does not have parents.
Can you imagine.
Be in tunes with it and be patient and kind to start to take personal self interests (in all world issues,sifting safelly to also keep mind unreachable for fixiated near past) as like you would be in your own garden
just make sure to keep some borders. For my reccomendation
Okey, i lost first letter in here, i hope You have Draft saver inplemented in to this website box for you would see how letter was build, what was told,
something about right click menu on mice is blocked so the can not choose Spell Checker on your website also bothers, as it is to strange thing to ,
Sounds like spy movie, :D
but yes, can we make some good E-residence thing in Russia that would for Estonians apply same way as for rest of the world the Estonia,
Residence would have electronically update system and the simple card from limited power of only allowing to access to a bank account or rent a apartemant in Russia, up to phone records and looking who you own money and what is contact info and small help access for giving advice about what is seen.
and services what come with it besides your car registration updating and needed medical info, blood type, army calls,
if you choose to connect your database to it - one time action by agreeing Your data be uploaded to Big Network,
these data banks are physically disconectable, , and connecting is safe as it happens in gov server with out much of reinventing current networks, even making them lighter but richer on data.
But as of National Interest i can not start to work With You directly at first before trust is with all, so maybe some local Russian ideology holder from another land language
this would be, in case these events we do do become real enought so we would need to share contact, so You would know, if it is non agreeable then for upfront , and when it is un agreeable, then agreement is know to be just when whatever is still to do will get fixed.
But there is so much more to do,
We are not slow ordinary way, as they say,
But i have personally issue with ROman-Greek related and The Wikings-Vulgaars(ed)e, kultuuride elements that distort and almost have killed the natural country original village life
SO You know, about what we are, and on what level we measure is culture worth to keep in the end, even if they are whatever size
--- --- ---
I just choose one random picture, honestly, have not wear a this kind of hat for long, just for logo,and for a USA drilling event, for water this time. more clean picture in FaceBook. For this book We can do, will have platform where Russian and US platforms dominate equally by not limited finance or computer power or even electrisity involved, But pure intelligence and Goodness will involve and fix destiny of the virtual network opinion that also regulate original resources, that what is chanaged, will be accepted by everyone else , for example one community company is owned by these who they was critical before, so public acceptance is recuired, and explenation of change of mind, so no one can say in to confusion.
China ahas some kind of version, kind of working well, brilliantly at first, but only involves small part of interactions comapred to system that we are to build a control panel (for it) so simple, that normal human can use it Always wit h something what is worth even for these who does not have parents.
Can you imagine.
Be in tunes with it and be patient and kind to start to take personal self interests (in all world issues,sifting safelly to also keep mind unreachable for fixiated near past) as like you would be in your own garden
just make sure to keep some borders. For my reccomendation
2 December 2016 06:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
2 December 2016 05:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
2 December 2016 05:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
2 December 2016 05:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
2 December 2016 05:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
2 December 2016 05:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
selle tõlkega, ainult Õ tähte muutes, tõesti, muutus päris suuresti lause sisu näidates milliseid lause kombinatsioone ta pakkus, aga samal ajal mitte rohku pannes sellele kas lause tähendus on õige, et otsese arusaamisega ei tegele vaid mitte vastureaktsiooni tekitavat sonade ja käitumiste baasit nad paljudele rohkem loodavad söötma hakata tarkust
2 December 2016 05:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 December 2016 05:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
OKey, this is something, Google Trants can actually understand that, better then human, eg. kui Eestlaselt küsida voi kui ARVUTI laäbi selle tähendus lastes inglisekeelde, siis nad hoopis kiiremini võivad alata asjaliku loo rääkimisega, isegi kui see professional (ehk siis mitte reaalne)
Google Ütles:
" I hope that one time I put those stories to play Kuik "
mis minu arust on päris hea tõlge, ja peale Ü .. Õ ks muutes tuli selline tõlge asemele ing keeles:
Ja kui keegi parandab ÜHE tähe:
tuleb tõlkeks:" I hope that one of these stories all the time I put in play"
mis muidugi tore, et lause muundas, aga selge, et nii palju ei saa ju meie keeles alati muutuda ühe tähe muutmisega mis nii ligi, eriti veel laulurahval. Seega sellest vaatest on Arvuti super arvutus vastus endiselt välise kihina nõder
What seems outside, as more sterile, realistic and fully translated, but actually requires more work
Google Ütles:
" I hope that one time I put those stories to play Kuik "
mis minu arust on päris hea tõlge, ja peale Ü .. Õ ks muutes tuli selline tõlge asemele ing keeles:
Ja kui keegi parandab ÜHE tähe:
tuleb tõlkeks:" I hope that one of these stories all the time I put in play"
mis muidugi tore, et lause muundas, aga selge, et nii palju ei saa ju meie keeles alati muutuda ühe tähe muutmisega mis nii ligi, eriti veel laulurahval. Seega sellest vaatest on Arvuti super arvutus vastus endiselt välise kihina nõder
What seems outside, as more sterile, realistic and fully translated, but actually requires more work
2 December 2016 05:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
unless they are not
2 December 2016 05:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so how big % of that can be given to Your worker so, that you still make more, wbut they are happpier and you can moove faster forward,
and once more, and can save money and make more money at same time, by still suing current technology, even 10% of their actual power but trick is to involve it with worth while activity so they know they, your workers, are part of Human Race
and once more, and can save money and make more money at same time, by still suing current technology, even 10% of their actual power but trick is to involve it with worth while activity so they know they, your workers, are part of Human Race
2 December 2016 04:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as elementary would be when all events that already enter in web that their web-events of all will be saved anyway and less heavy item that is allowed to use in this time, will , can carry out 10 times more interaction with 10 times less data and processed power. And cost, all before that saving,s top of this, seems also elementary but not have think about that
2 December 2016 04:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But the effect of calendar will be that all of the events are in multy way with eachother related as living events and ideas.
2 December 2016 04:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Easily doable with today's technology after a bit of tuning to work them with each other, different technologies and services with each other
2 December 2016 04:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(Literally)
2 December 2016 04:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and calendar of All Events
2 December 2016 04:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i can help to make solution in to the news
2 December 2016 04:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 December 2016 04:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Naisega kahepeale kokku tuleb tavaliselt koige parem maailm, mis iganes elementidega arvestad mida inimlikult enda ellu valid, ja arvestad, siis kõige hinnatum on olnud alati nii meeste kui naiste jaoks naine
2 December 2016 04:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi enamustel ka neil endil ja nadendid enda ise endastki pole enamasti vabad ega enda osas kaitseabinoud välja moeldnud, missellisest muretseda, kui mitu viga tuleb ja iseenda kriis siis sellised jäävad kohe maha kui koikide arusaamade kulminatsioon pärale jõuab
2 December 2016 04:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ühesonaga lood eepilised mis jääksid ajalukku püsima, on nii steriilselt limiteerituks tehtud, et oleks voimalik alles jatta kuid samas ka piisavalt paris inimesi ligi hoida, et äratuntav oleks otse ilma ütlemata, mitte nagu kultused , kuig ika nemad saavad jah reaalsust kanalit keerata suuresjoones paljudel
2 December 2016 04:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tegelikult näidatakse aga Leidu, heameelset mida oligi vaja kuid kuidas ainukestest asjadest mis olid just nii head juhtusid ainukesena järgi olema
Ühesüonaga tume rikka maitsega leib pool nätkskelt ja kalevi rosinatu pähkli kirsi sokolaad,
on Eesti rahva viimased toidupalud tihtipeale, see pole eriline, ....ja te küsite miks me ie eresidensusega seotud olla on meeldiv, kui te vaid siin ka rahulikult aega võtate ksimaks kuidas ja kellekäst nad veel sgavamalt teab, kas temast teadjad ka
Ühesüonaga tume rikka maitsega leib pool nätkskelt ja kalevi rosinatu pähkli kirsi sokolaad,
on Eesti rahva viimased toidupalud tihtipeale, see pole eriline, ....ja te küsite miks me ie eresidensusega seotud olla on meeldiv, kui te vaid siin ka rahulikult aega võtate ksimaks kuidas ja kellekäst nad veel sgavamalt teab, kas temast teadjad ka
2 December 2016 04:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
2 December 2016 04:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just why they force these numbers o nthese location, specially why stop at 5000 when 5001 would be MUCH better, much less sixes statistically on screen on top users,
also if to make it 27333 then balnence of seeing better numbers, is much greater
also if to make it 27333 then balnence of seeing better numbers, is much greater
2 December 2016 03:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 December 2016 03:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But really, everything was fine, and still is
as situation still comes but thank God we are prepared
as situation still comes but thank God we are prepared
2 December 2016 03:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jama on see,et enamus aja thjalt kohapeal tobad käima,
arusaades ikka, et olenemata suurusest, IKKA on vaja ise pihta aga mis moodi SIIS seda teha kui hoopis liikuvana pead ennast arvestama, enamasti neil eriti liiikumist ei lubatud sest nad ise aru ei saanud mis maailmas nad käisid.
umbes sedasi vaadeldi seda,
arusaades ikka, et olenemata suurusest, IKKA on vaja ise pihta aga mis moodi SIIS seda teha kui hoopis liikuvana pead ennast arvestama, enamasti neil eriti liiikumist ei lubatud sest nad ise aru ei saanud mis maailmas nad käisid.
umbes sedasi vaadeldi seda,
2 December 2016 03:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mobiiimeestel muidugi nadim, aga kes siis endiselt tänapäeval interneti süva tunnetamiseks ebamugavust lubab
2 December 2016 03:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et kui arvestad, et isegi kui on Jumal, kuid ju ta siis hariduse ja harituse järgi vaatab kes on parem, isegi ui oleks...
... jasiis arvrestatakse mitt,e et kui elus sind vastamisi pannakse sellega millesse usud, siis sul peaks olema olemas ju vastused kui sa teaksid mis on ja mis vabandus on siis kui ei tea, mitte vastu võtta arusaami, nagu naised vanasti said aru mis mees neile rääkis, aga nüüd on juba omavaheline arusaam nii sassi läinud, et vahest ei saa kumbki aru mis oli jutu õiguse kaheldamatu pool , ja see kuidas selle poole välja mängid kui sul on selle poole oigusmis talle meeldib, see su oma asi
... jasiis arvrestatakse mitt,e et kui elus sind vastamisi pannakse sellega millesse usud, siis sul peaks olema olemas ju vastused kui sa teaksid mis on ja mis vabandus on siis kui ei tea, mitte vastu võtta arusaami, nagu naised vanasti said aru mis mees neile rääkis, aga nüüd on juba omavaheline arusaam nii sassi läinud, et vahest ei saa kumbki aru mis oli jutu õiguse kaheldamatu pool , ja see kuidas selle poole välja mängid kui sul on selle poole oigusmis talle meeldib, see su oma asi
2 December 2016 03:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sest kas siis kui sellise võimu juba osutasid võimalikuks, selle vaidluse tarvis, siis sa pidid juba arvestama kogu eel haarde ette ära et kui on Looja, siis kui millises hhaardes ta mida arvestab,
ja kas siis on sinu kultuuril piisavalt klassi oigetes parempoolsetes osades (muud pole vaja suunata, nad teavad niigi kuidas olla)
ja kas siis on sinu kultuuril piisavalt klassi oigetes parempoolsetes osades (muud pole vaja suunata, nad teavad niigi kuidas olla)
2 December 2016 03:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lisaks meil lintidelt meisse juba laetud ette ara kogumik mis on, kui keegi kysima hakkaks, oleks ylemääärane ja tava intelikentsi arvestavalt ksides, , võrdselt tarkuse järgi ennast ritta panijad, saavad ise suure enda pingutuste tõestamise laviini
2 December 2016 03:22
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2 December 2016 03:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
World most mini ARCCII carfiiti with story
2 December 2016 03:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 December 2016 03:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 December 2016 03:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Remeber, this is Estonian Goverment official Channel,
that can jump between 7(plus reaalsuse piires
ja siis ise veel mängivadseda sulle sinna otsa, kui liialt kysid
that can jump between 7(plus reaalsuse piires
ja siis ise veel mängivadseda sulle sinna otsa, kui liialt kysid
2 December 2016 02:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mis mõttes, , only human ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ivZVIBJ6Hc&list=RD9ivZVIBJ6Hc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ivZVIBJ6Hc&list=RD9ivZVIBJ6Hc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ivZVIBJ6Hc&list=RD9ivZVIBJ6Hc
2 December 2016 02:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yo ya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ivZVIBJ6Hc&list=RD9ivZVIBJ6Hc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ivZVIBJ6Hc&list=RD9ivZVIBJ6Hc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ivZVIBJ6Hc&list=RD9ivZVIBJ6Hc
2 December 2016 02:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
etsiis saksa ja prantsuse
muusika põimumine , kuid ikkagi sweedeny stiili maiguga... ja see nagu üleliia magusaks läheb ja jääb vitamiine puudu vist vähesest päikesest (siin pole nüüd kutse, et koik naised lendaksid lounamaale, ja siis meestel see arusaama hetk tuleb kus üeldakse et wisdom otsasykspev ja leida pole kuskilt, .... naised saadaksa ekueerida, kui peaks minema maidinaks, esimesena, ja mitte et sellist madinat väljast poolt maad tuleks )
muusika põimumine , kuid ikkagi sweedeny stiili maiguga... ja see nagu üleliia magusaks läheb ja jääb vitamiine puudu vist vähesest päikesest (siin pole nüüd kutse, et koik naised lendaksid lounamaale, ja siis meestel see arusaama hetk tuleb kus üeldakse et wisdom otsasykspev ja leida pole kuskilt, .... naised saadaksa ekueerida, kui peaks minema maidinaks, esimesena, ja mitte et sellist madinat väljast poolt maad tuleks )
2 December 2016 02:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(malihtsalt loodan, et kunagi uuesti jrgi samas jarjekorras mangida, siis need asjad samamoodi kolvad selliselt et need ajad ajast ees on mis juba siis juhtus , kas see on reaalsuste rong, mis meie eest vagunina läheb,eganeid ei pruugi rohkem olla kui kellaaegu, või aastaid,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BshxCIjNEjY
eriti vahet pole, väike aeg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BshxCIjNEjY
eriti vahet pole, väike aeg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BshxCIjNEjY
2 December 2016 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siia otsa,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BshxCIjNEjY
mined on väga tugevalt reaalsusesse läinud ja ennast khtestanud, seega neid tuleks ka aksepteerida ja nende oigusi olla nii ja needka muud kes soovivad, saate aru, ku ite keelate sellist seisundit nagu selles olekus, et sedasi olla ja teha nagu siin tehtud, et sinnamaani saada, et seda laulu lindistada,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BshxCIjNEjY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BshxCIjNEjY
mined on väga tugevalt reaalsusesse läinud ja ennast khtestanud, seega neid tuleks ka aksepteerida ja nende oigusi olla nii ja needka muud kes soovivad, saate aru, ku ite keelate sellist seisundit nagu selles olekus, et sedasi olla ja teha nagu siin tehtud, et sinnamaani saada, et seda laulu lindistada,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BshxCIjNEjY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BshxCIjNEjY
2 December 2016 02:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kopiraightiga saab hoida loksus teatudseinemisesi, millel on eisnemiseoigus ainulaadsena jasis neid yksikuid kopiraighte sinu endamaterali osas, kus sind filmidaka ei lubatud.. ega koigile tasuta esinemise CD id ei antud. vaid... mis moodi..see voimalik.. sinu esinemisest, jakysiti esitleja avenyy poolt raha, lindistuse kaasaandmiseks, kes nad sellsiedolid , need kaablimehed?
2 December 2016 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 December 2016 02:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
as long you keep love going
https://youtu.be/yq3prvZf7UQ?t=66 oih, see ausalt oli 5 sekunidi peale moeldud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq3prvZf7UQ
https://youtu.be/yq3prvZf7UQ?t=66 oih, see ausalt oli 5 sekunidi peale moeldud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq3prvZf7UQ
2 December 2016 02:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
2 December 2016 02:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lll... kurja tegmeiseks,
(seks on alati meie oma)
(seks on alati meie oma)
2 December 2016 02:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis lauldakse kjuurde ka veel
2 December 2016 02:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lihtsalt suured asjad on ja eepilised, jasiis ... salalaa'takse, ja muidu tehakse plaani nou kuidas raaamat luua., avalikult,l ubatult
2 December 2016 02:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Riigi ahveeride vahepeal
2 December 2016 02:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 December 2016 02:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja sinna otsa CARPENTERS - Yesterday Once More*
"Salalala laaa"
"Salalala laaa"
2 December 2016 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
IVO LINNA - Oma Saar*
2 December 2016 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
2 December 2016 02:09
Margus Meigo replied to Gerald Painter's comment.
makes me wonder, how can people be surprised about it ...showing if people DO are surprised about it, then they are not even eligale for vote, to take part of voting, if one did not care to look who is a guy and how does he speaks and then assuming logically what will he do , to stay alive
2 December 2016 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on William Douglas-Home's post.
fEst. as Estonia ; )
2 December 2016 00:24
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
as some data is sensitive for some regulations, there must be co-operating servers offshore to host some data sources, but against evil you get best by exposing it,
1 December 2016 22:29
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
how can we help with it all, is with a proper database, with all the versions of fakes and real ones, up to highest quality and coordinates for physical proofs ... but with important addition: links and full information about everyone who is known to produce the fakes and who have keep sharing it after they was informed it to be not real, eg humans who do no good in purpose
1 December 2016 22:26
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
this bastards, you know they also had to do some of these things, to make this propaganda...
Like in Estonia they wear a fake German uniform and then make burning rituals .. but when a uniform peace for them was found later, it show clearly, it was not German clothing
Like in Estonia they wear a fake German uniform and then make burning rituals .. but when a uniform peace for them was found later, it show clearly, it was not German clothing
1 December 2016 22:24
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ma polekindel, et oskaksin öelda, mis on "Liig" minu puhul
1 December 2016 22:20
Margus Meigo commented on Katy Perry's note.
Oot, what, i can not get it,
I did get away, but still did not get a meetings more then in dreams, but i am physical man
I did get away, but still did not get a meetings more then in dreams, but i am physical man
1 December 2016 07:46
Margus Meigo commented on Katy Perry's link.
And same time, other people do that on Katy Name, posting as Katy FanClub News as They have on Twitter account
https://twitter.com/KATYPERRIA
How we allow that
https://twitter.com/KATYPERRIA
How we allow that
https://twitter.com/KATYPERRIA
1 December 2016 07:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Point is
it is usable by any kid of global political view to eliminate one by one from our world and then as culture together all left over cultures who lack contact in western worlds e-naught links to make it to reliable story
it is usable by any kid of global political view to eliminate one by one from our world and then as culture together all left over cultures who lack contact in western worlds e-naught links to make it to reliable story
1 December 2016 07:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
trumbist räägides see pidi soome urgrinalne olema, eks ega ta muidu vist siit kaudu naisi, vaata, need mis tal olnud on meie pärimusrahvale ju ligemal kui kohalikud ameeriklased oleks kes hindiast ja hiinast, inglismaalt
1 December 2016 06:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehk sis kes on mis kaadid maha mänginud ja kes mis turmbid ette
1 December 2016 06:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ses mottes,et ilma naljata, tema on suur reaalsuses tegelikult materiali poolt kaasa antud see, et tema reaalselt saaks olla mis soovid oilla lopliku eesti meeldimiseni välja kuid mitte selle stiili pärijale kes selliseid vigasi teinud on nagu see kes pervo raamatu kirjutas, isegi kui koii maailma vallutuste osa voimalus koigil ennast kogeda ja arusaada, siis selle läbi aga saabub limitatsioon mis ei laseks ega teekstemal presidendina liinil olevana mingit reaalselt positiivselt lopniviivat tulemust ollagi,
1 December 2016 06:45
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1 December 2016 06:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Presidendiks ühesonaga ka sobiks ta vabalt liskas elitt ametitele muudele,
sest omadaktiviseeritavad tenoloogiad tal olemas mida meie meelsusegasaab läbi meieendi pandud kuhu igabes vaja välise suhtes ja see meie suhtes paratamatult siis saab nii olema, kuid kas kibestuse või heameelega, totavamalt, ilma pingutuseta
sest omadaktiviseeritavad tenoloogiad tal olemas mida meie meelsusegasaab läbi meieendi pandud kuhu igabes vaja välise suhtes ja see meie suhtes paratamatult siis saab nii olema, kuid kas kibestuse või heameelega, totavamalt, ilma pingutuseta
1 December 2016 05:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja vabalt saab sedasi ta ära lahendada olukorra kui vaja:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7o-0mNnSrw&index=6&list=RDnOR906kzWlw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7o-0mNnSrw&index=6&list=RDnOR906kzWlw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7o-0mNnSrw&index=6&list=RDnOR906kzWlw
1 December 2016 05:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://youtu.be/nOR906kzWlw?list=RDnOR906kzWlw&t=136 138 ei pane üldse pahaks
https://youtu.be/nOR906kzWlw?list=RDnOR906kzWlw&t=136
1 December 2016 05:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Phaedra Sinatra whhaaat
1 December 2016 05:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ilmselgelt tema pole Genka suurune, kuid see, eest tumesinine ja võimeline reaalslet ka igasuguseid muid positsioone juhtimiseks võtta kui mingi alaga jalgeal peaks kuumaks minema, kuid ala kus sees ei saaks olla ta enam torgitav nende jõudude kaudu, ilma, et need ennast paljastama peaksid enesehvituseni, nende enda ühsitiimi poolt apsu pärast kaasa nõustudes
1 December 2016 05:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tõlge siis vahepeal, on CoolD olukord välisinvestorite silmis, mis mõõtmetes see tõene on mida ta laulab, kas gängsta, relgioose, muu vandenõulise ja maailmakorra tipp olukordades, kuidas ta selles maailmas suudaks olla
1 December 2016 05:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Järgmine level
kus ikkagi raha lihtsalt jätakse mulje, et vb tõesti lüüakse kaadrilt välja, et ehk siis saab olla meie level kutid ILMA rahata ohoida levelit, , et kus ei saada neid tõmmata maha, ka siis ku iraha ei ole,
mida enamus popstaarid ei saaks, lubada endale, et kui nad oleks rahata tsoonis siis nad oleks mitte mehena lihtsasti käituma pandavad
kus ikkagi raha lihtsalt jätakse mulje, et vb tõesti lüüakse kaadrilt välja, et ehk siis saab olla meie level kutid ILMA rahata ohoida levelit, , et kus ei saada neid tõmmata maha, ka siis ku iraha ei ole,
mida enamus popstaarid ei saaks, lubada endale, et kui nad oleks rahata tsoonis siis nad oleks mitte mehena lihtsasti käituma pandavad
1 December 2016 05:33
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Leberecht's comment.
Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
Ülejäänud on ka suured levelid noorte silmis ka, kuid ei ole SELLISES mõõtmes, nagu siin haaratakse tuleviku mottes ette,
Ligipäsud jätteslahti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOR906kzWlw&list=RDnOR906kzWlwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOR906kzWlw&list=RDnOR906kzWlw
1 December 2016 05:27
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Leberecht's comment.
Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
kuigi ta räpas maailmaskasvas üles oma imagago kuid tegelikult liikus kenasti jasamas oli Genkasti ka ja.. kes teab,
kui puhas eestlane Cool D on,
ks puhtamalt puhtamate seest kes Eesti suunalisi asju teinudon , meie vaimu hoidmiseks, hargivahedest meie rahvaste vahedeni1 December 2016 05:26
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Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
umbes ka seda meditasiooni daktikat kasutades nagu cool d
ka laulus puu on puude korgune1 December 2016 05:24
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Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
et uuemaks sündida voi ootama jääda, koguma ennast, et suuremakssaada1 December 2016 05:24
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Leberecht's post.
Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
Ühesonaga Marika Teeäär jõudsin nüd siis jutuga sinnamaani, et Sain selgemaks teha, et America Dream ei saa Surra
(ehk siis mis moodita saab ameerikalne olla kui seda tleb, see tuleks kondakontsus ära votta, ja selle oma anda kelle maa naistega ta abileus on ja sele maa mehed ei saa ju olla kpresiendid, halleluuja, on arulagedad)
American Dream Cant Not Die, yo Drump, i got Äss?
As they sayIn america Willadges for long time about situations like that, so how would1 December 2016 05:22
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Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
siis saavad veel... jah...1 December 2016 05:19
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Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
Kuidas siis Ameerika Kotkas, Dream või Viisnurgad mis ta ikka omaks votavad ja täis voimsusega liidavad kui peaks ohtki väikegi olenma, et see koht on kukutatav ja head arvavad, et saavadselle ise yle votta1 December 2016 05:19
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Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
Euroopa Härg, ei saa ju ka surra ega vene karu ?1 December 2016 05:18
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Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
Ahja, et siis Ameerika Dream saame ju aru, eisaa tegelikult Surra nagu ega ka Euroopa Härd1 December 2016 05:18
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Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
Siis hea, ma juba hakkasin muretsema1 December 2016 05:15
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eestist teada oleks jah hea eestiga maailmaparandust tehes väärtusliku luues1 December 2016 05:15
Margus Meigo replied to Marika Teeäär's comment.
Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
oota, sa pole Naine, ja siis arvad, ettead millesträägid ?
Ise ka Ausalt aru saad millest räägid või, või läheb juba võikaks1 December 2016 05:14
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vms (või muud sellised)1 December 2016 05:12
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Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
Vabandust, Naine1 December 2016 05:11
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Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
mis assja ??1 December 2016 05:11
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kuid mu videos vist kaks liberaali räägivad väga libedat juttu1 December 2016 05:10
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oh andrus jõudsid enne1 December 2016 05:09
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Leberecht's post.
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kui ta nii suur mees on kui ta laulab oma videos enda arvama olema siis voiks ta need tegelased eetrist vlja ajada keeluga esineda, kui nad priselt oleks midagi reeaalselt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVYI9HO6aF01 December 2016 05:09
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Leberecht's post.
Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
jube1 December 2016 05:08
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Leberecht's post.
Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
Suht närune, et ütles , et Ameerika dream on puru1 December 2016 05:08
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Leberecht's post.
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ooh Lahe tegigi ära!1 December 2016 05:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but who have insurgence for a case it is alive, that your position for sure can keep up and in the end in any kind of position, then who will fail to a position faster when situations change,
if sameonehave position like that, it is only possible to not agree when personal reasons
----
Ja Phaedra Sinatra, motleb:
mis asja ta seal motleb
(veel poske hoidvalt)
if sameonehave position like that, it is only possible to not agree when personal reasons
----
Ja Phaedra Sinatra, motleb:
mis asja ta seal motleb
(veel poske hoidvalt)
1 December 2016 05:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
It becomes alive, witha a big A
1 December 2016 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but yes only when it...
1 December 2016 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to Aintrais Parte's comment.
väga väiksel tasemel võrreldes ainuüksi loodusjõudude ajaga
1 December 2016 04:57
Margus Meigo replied to Aintrais Parte's comment.
et gheto ususüsteemi uskuvat, mis päris maailmasuurusi ja jõude näitab ja õigeid võidumehi
1 December 2016 04:57
Margus Meigo replied to Aintrais Parte's comment.
nu siis ütle, et sellepärast Sa mu sobra listis oletki
1 December 2016 04:56
Margus Meigo replied to Aintrais Parte's comment.
:D
1 December 2016 04:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so if my offer can give You more worth as any kind of presidency only can give then Salute!
1 December 2016 04:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 December 2016 04:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and keeping facebook bigger to, at same time, also
1 December 2016 04:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 December 2016 04:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et siis selle kahe eelmise reaalsuse käitumise asemel, midagi muud eelistan see niisama kaasas,
(instead of these two behaviors mentioned in last post + midagi)
so
(instead of these two behaviors mentioned in last post + midagi)
so
1 December 2016 04:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(yes, it is even more simple, on the size of " Haare " )
Vb monel polegi muud suurust kui saada endakätte ükskõik mis vahenditega kui palju kuni oma lopuni mida valesti libastumisel tekitab või ennast oma vaenlaste väljatoomiseks ohverdab
Vb monel polegi muud suurust kui saada endakätte ükskõik mis vahenditega kui palju kuni oma lopuni mida valesti libastumisel tekitab või ennast oma vaenlaste väljatoomiseks ohverdab
1 December 2016 04:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Please do not attempt To Do as even one labor ordinary sientist can with little or alot of toolsdo unstoppabale thing on any kind of lab with interest of what is unknown
1 December 2016 04:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
This main section of "Send in posiible unstopable message combination togheder" addition to channel what is anyways, or even by now many, many way even already maybe, can be, then should be so, Better.
(Translation; (auto translation) notifing many electronic components connected to right comibination of people involved realities, - (as knowing part of reallity, really knowing a part, allows you to know already entire that reallity))
(Translation; (auto translation) notifing many electronic components connected to right comibination of people involved realities, - (as knowing part of reallity, really knowing a part, allows you to know already entire that reallity))
1 December 2016 04:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but whatabout hillary y yahoo?
1 December 2016 04:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
for easy, for real, for longer
1 December 2016 04:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
That i have for him bigger offer then this waht United States offers
1 December 2016 04:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
(point oli selles, et ei saanud sinna alla kommentaari juba mitmendat korda erinevate postidega seda juba parkorda olnud siin olulisel ajal, et mis värki)
1 December 2016 04:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
1 December 2016 04:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey now lets hope the bottom one also can be sended,
do we Really need to be so unreliable in cooperation with computer and software people in all levels involved or not
do we Really need to be so unreliable in cooperation with computer and software people in all levels involved or not
1 December 2016 04:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
1 December 2016 04:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" ja " jättsin uueks keele kasutamiseks, aga miks motlen veel, sest see peale considerationit juhtus, kui otsustasin, et jätan
1 December 2016 03:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 December 2016 03:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Gert Klaaser kuidas see leveliga oligi
1 December 2016 03:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vot jah aga kes siis oskab ja suudab näidata kokkupuutes, kelle maailm on siis suurem mille osas, vastvalt sellele kes su ümber poevad oma reaalsustega,
seega tuleb juba kohe olla teisel levelil
seega tuleb juba kohe olla teisel levelil
1 December 2016 03:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
et siis fantastilise portaalide systeemi jubaplaanisin enne seda kui ma raha saates vastasin, et ma ei tea kes tetrise tegi ja kelle käes on võtmed. Siin ilmas, isegi vap
1 December 2016 03:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Gerg Busii osas
1 December 2016 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(nii, kohe edasi)
et kui reaalsuse laiendusega tegeleda,
siis valides laienduseks vheselt loomse tee ebaõigelt siis juab ainult enese orjastamise teele kus olenemata su kestast sulle selgeks tehtud kui kelle käsul sa tohid ringi ülse tatsata, kui ta kohale peaks tulema, kes siis sind liigutada tohib ilma, et sa hädaldama hakkaksid,
et saad toesti aru, et kylastsab suurem kui peeter suurelsuulselle jaokssõnu jätkub
et kui reaalsuse laiendusega tegeleda,
siis valides laienduseks vheselt loomse tee ebaõigelt siis juab ainult enese orjastamise teele kus olenemata su kestast sulle selgeks tehtud kui kelle käsul sa tohid ringi ülse tatsata, kui ta kohale peaks tulema, kes siis sind liigutada tohib ilma, et sa hädaldama hakkaksid,
et saad toesti aru, et kylastsab suurem kui peeter suurelsuulselle jaokssõnu jätkub
1 December 2016 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sest jäks topamama kuskile mis tunduks suur aga tegelikult mote kuhu jõuda oli hoopis muu,
lihtsalt need teed mida tippu jõudmiseks kasutada
ei ole kasutatavad selliselt et nad sul nö reaalsuse kinnistust ei tekitaks, mille sees ikkagi liitud arusaamadega, et su va...
lihtsalt need teed mida tippu jõudmiseks kasutada
ei ole kasutatavad selliselt et nad sul nö reaalsuse kinnistust ei tekitaks, mille sees ikkagi liitud arusaamadega, et su va...
1 December 2016 03:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et ainlt enende hulgas kellel sellistesse aru.. ei seda ei sa arusaadavaks teha ohutult, las see jäääda seletamata praegu
1 December 2016 03:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sest mida iganes teada saad suuruse mottes edasi minnes, see enam peale mingit olulisust mingitele mängumaale pürgivalt ja senikaua kui nendega kokkuporgates jääb neil mulje, et sa ei ole nende poss, kuid seda ainult nende hulgas kes arvamad ennast arusaama olevat maailma boss
1 December 2016 03:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
isegi endal võtab andami alt ära seda mõeldes kuidas õiglaselt anda
1 December 2016 03:30
Margus Meigo commented on Õhtuleht's link.
igas sumina hetkes tuleb anda mida edasi kanda #igaSumin
1 December 2016 03:28
Margus Meigo commented on Õhtuleht's link.
Oih. see väike paari leheline manual ongi kogu lugu..
http://g3.nh.ee/images/pix/terrorirunnaku-korral-75220205.pdf
http://g3.nh.ee/images/pix/terrorirunnaku-korral-75220205.pdf
1 December 2016 02:43
Margus Meigo replied to Sten-Hans Vihmar's comment.
See PDF oli nii väike, kui raske manuali kogu sisu piltidena Toimetajal Delfi reklaamihunniku vahele toppida oli ?
Kuid jah, meil läheb ideoloogilise inflateerumise rahvusliku manuali vaja, mis oleks koolis juba kättesaadav, koos põhitõdedega karmidest reaalsustest
Kuid jah, meil läheb ideoloogilise inflateerumise rahvusliku manuali vaja, mis oleks koolis juba kättesaadav, koos põhitõdedega karmidest reaalsustest
1 December 2016 02:37
Margus Meigo replied to Sten-Hans Vihmar's comment.
Kui need põhitõelised tõed ka igipõliste hingevaenlaste osas selgeks saaks tavarahval ühiselt, nagu nii Sellisel riigil oleks minimaalselt sobilik, siis juba saab rahulikumalt hingata
Paljudele jääks minevikus veel popkemanGo punktiseis olulisemaks kui riigi teave.. ,kuid ehk saab node pokemannide kaudu ka inimest aidata juhendada kuhu vaja..
Paljudele jääks minevikus veel popkemanGo punktiseis olulisemaks kui riigi teave.. ,kuid ehk saab node pokemannide kaudu ka inimest aidata juhendada kuhu vaja..
1 December 2016 02:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
kuid eks nendest pättidest ammu mitmeid eri andmebaase tehtud
http://vastased.blogspot.com.ee/2016/11/veel-moningaid-inbisi-kes-proovivad-hea.htmlhttp://vastased.blogspot.com.ee/2016/11/veel-moningaid-inbisi-kes-proovivad-hea.html
1 December 2016 02:31
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Loed üdini positiivset ja head uudist, ja siis leiad ikka karja palgalisi ja muidu ohmoone kes selle kõige üli meeldiva sest olematut probleemi ja viga otsima hakkavad ning siis interneti oma arulagedate väljaheidetega lagastavad1 December 2016 02:14
Margus Meigo replied to Kristina Jaago's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Õnneks küll jah1 December 2016 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to Tarmo Etti's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
või ku muidu üksteisest välja kasvati , nagu ta ütles1 December 2016 02:12
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Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Sutsu häbi pole sedasi teisest mõelda v ?
Isegi kui Sellisel naisel oleks olnud palju mehi, siis taoliste saavutuste jaoks inimkonna tarvis, ei tohiks meil eriti palju õigust siin kõhida olla ja tark naine kui nõrgemad mehed maha jätab, et siis parema ja õigema juurde saada1 December 2016 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to Sulev Mäsak's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
oot mis moodi sa siinKerstit ja KGB d nüüd omavahel seostad, palavikus oled v?1 December 2016 02:11
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Astula's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
"see ei sobi" nu mis asja Sa ajad?
sellist haige lapse lalinat et kedagi vaja pole poel vaja internetis jagada, seda siin tuelvased polved Sul loevad ja sinu üle suurt häbi tundma peavad1 December 2016 02:10
Margus Meigo replied to Jansa Jansa's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Onneks Su nimi koosneb koledast ja pahast, seega sind tagasi solvata eriti ei saagiega ka sinu sonadel pole muud muju kui tavaprastel liberaali ja punastel kutsikatel kes siin meie riigivastast propakandat üleval hoida proovivad, sellistel tuleks meie keele rääkimise oigus ära võtta, tõsiselt kohe1 December 2016 02:08
Margus Meigo replied to Tiia Võttin's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Martin Helme oled nüüd ise ka ju nõus, et päris tervemoistuslikud need polnud kes meie praeguse Leedi osas vastumeelsed olid veel ajutiselt?1 December 2016 02:07
Margus Meigo replied to Tiia Võttin's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
kommunist, inimelude vastaseid ja eesti ning naiste vastaseid ikka leidub keda siit riigist pole veel eriprojetide tarbes välja likvideeritud,
keegiei taha ka selliseid, selles häda1 December 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo replied to Padu Kadu's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
kas Sa oled natukene haigeks peas läinud või ?
Ise ka enda sõnud sööd,kurku ei jää see löga v?1 December 2016 02:03
Margus Meigo replied to Urmas Tuisk's comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
see oli irooniline huumor liberaalide pihta voi ega sa ometi päriselt seda moelnud ?
See ikka VÄGA suur pohjust usalduseks, ja vajalikuseks1 December 2016 02:02
Margus Meigo replied to Kuldar Pärt's comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
loodame, et keegi kaugjuhitava odava drooni või lapse suurema lennukitega suht lihtsa vaevaga enamus sellistel katustel olevaid atenne maha ei aja1 December 2016 02:00
Margus Meigo replied to Kuldar Pärt's comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
ah vot nii siis1 December 2016 01:58
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Kõik oleneb mis on kaalul ja kui palju maksimum risikiga tõenäoselt õnnestub rohkem kui üks kõik millise tuleviku riskivõtmis olukorraga võrrelda
1 December 2016 01:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Owens initially refused to support the black power salute by African-American sprinters Tommie Smith and John Carlos at the 1968 Summer Olympics. He told them:
The black fist is a meaningless symbol. When you open it, you have nothing but fingers – weak, empty fingers. The only time the black fist has significance is when there's money inside. There's where the power lies.
Four years later in his 1972 book I Have Changed, he moderated his opinion:
I realized now that militancy in the best sense of the word was the only answer where the black man was concerned, that any black man who wasn't a militant in 1970 was either blind or a coward.
A few months before his death, Owens had tried unsuccessfully to convince President Jimmy Carter to withdraw his demand that the United States boycott the 1980 Moscow Olympics. He argued that the Olympic ideal was supposed to be observed as a time-out from war and that it was above politics
The black fist is a meaningless symbol. When you open it, you have nothing but fingers – weak, empty fingers. The only time the black fist has significance is when there's money inside. There's where the power lies.
Four years later in his 1972 book I Have Changed, he moderated his opinion:
I realized now that militancy in the best sense of the word was the only answer where the black man was concerned, that any black man who wasn't a militant in 1970 was either blind or a coward.
A few months before his death, Owens had tried unsuccessfully to convince President Jimmy Carter to withdraw his demand that the United States boycott the 1980 Moscow Olympics. He argued that the Olympic ideal was supposed to be observed as a time-out from war and that it was above politics
1 December 2016 00:21
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" Owens, who joined the Republican Party after returning from Europe, was paid to campaign for African American votes for the Republican presidential nominee Alf Landon in the 1936 presidential election.[33][34] Speaking at a Republican rally held in Baltimore on October 9, 1936, Owens said "Some people say Hitler snubbed me. But I tell you, Hitler did not snub me. I am not knocking the President. Remember, I am not a politician, but remember that the President did not send me a message of congratulations because, people said, he was too busy."[35] Later, on October 15, 1936 Owens repeated this allegation when he addressed an audience of African Americans at a Republican rally in Kansas City remarking that "Hitler didn't snub me – it was our president who snubbed me. The president didn't even send me a telegram."
1 December 2016 00:17
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" in 2014, Eric Brown, British fighter pilot and test pilot, the Fleet Air Arm's most decorated living pilot,[25] independently stated in a BBC documentary "I actually witnessed Hitler shaking hands with Jesse Owens and congratulating him on what he had achieved."[26] Additionally, an article in The Baltimore Sun in August 1936 reported that Hitler sent Owens a commemorative inscribed cabinet photograph of himself.
In Germany, Owens had been allowed to travel with and stay in the same hotels as whites, at a time when African Americans in many parts of the United States had to stay in segregated hotels.[28] During a Manhattan ticker-tape parade along Broadway's Canyon of Heroes in his honor, someone handed Owens a paper bag. Owens paid it little mind until the parade concluded. When he opened it up, he found the bag contained $10,000 in cash. Owens's wife Ruth later said, "And he [Owens] didn't know who was good enough to do a thing like that. And with all the excitement around, he didn't pick it up right away. He didn't pick it up until he got ready to get out of the car."[29] After the parade, Owens was not permitted to enter through the main doors of the Waldorf Astoria New York and instead forced to travel up to the event in a freight elevator to reach the reception honoring him.[28][30] President Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) never invited Jesse Owens to the White House following his triumphs at the Olympics games.[31] While the Democrats had bid for the support of Owens, Owens rejected those overtures: as a staunch Republican, he endorsed Roosevelt's Republican opponent, Alf Landon, in the 1936 presidential race. "
In Germany, Owens had been allowed to travel with and stay in the same hotels as whites, at a time when African Americans in many parts of the United States had to stay in segregated hotels.[28] During a Manhattan ticker-tape parade along Broadway's Canyon of Heroes in his honor, someone handed Owens a paper bag. Owens paid it little mind until the parade concluded. When he opened it up, he found the bag contained $10,000 in cash. Owens's wife Ruth later said, "And he [Owens] didn't know who was good enough to do a thing like that. And with all the excitement around, he didn't pick it up right away. He didn't pick it up until he got ready to get out of the car."[29] After the parade, Owens was not permitted to enter through the main doors of the Waldorf Astoria New York and instead forced to travel up to the event in a freight elevator to reach the reception honoring him.[28][30] President Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) never invited Jesse Owens to the White House following his triumphs at the Olympics games.[31] While the Democrats had bid for the support of Owens, Owens rejected those overtures: as a staunch Republican, he endorsed Roosevelt's Republican opponent, Alf Landon, in the 1936 presidential race. "
1 December 2016 00:17
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" In a 2009 interview, Siegfried Mischner, a German journalist, claimed that Owens carried around a photograph in his wallet of the Führer shaking his hand before the latter left the stadium. Owens, who felt the newspapers of the day reported 'unfairly' on Hitler's attitude towards him, tried to get Mischner and his journalist colleagues to change the accepted version of history in the 1960s. Mischner claimed Owens showed him the photograph and told him: "That was one of my most beautiful moments." Mischner added "(the picture) was taken behind the honour stand and so not captured by the world's press. But I saw it, I saw him shaking Hitler's hand!" According to Mischner, "the predominating opinion in post-war Germany was that Hitler had ignored Owens, so we therefore decided not to report on the photo. The consensus was that Hitler had to continue to be painted in a bad light in relation to Owens." [22] For some time, Mischner's assertion was not confirmed independently of his own account,[23] and Mischner himself admitted in Mail Online that "All my colleagues are dead, Owens is dead. I thought this was the last chance to set the record straight. I have no idea where the photo is or even if it exists still. "
1 December 2016 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hitler was really happy and honored for him, but not so happy about usa...
"Owens said at the time:
Hitler had a certain time to come to the stadium and a certain time to leave. It happened he had to leave before the victory ceremony after the 100 meters. But before he left I was on my way to a broadcast and passed near his box. He waved at me and I waved back. I think it was bad taste to criticize the 'man of the hour' in another country. "
"His achievement of setting three world records and tying another in less than an hour at the 1935 Big Ten track meet in Ann Arbor, Michigan, has been called "the greatest 45 minutes ever in sport" and has never been equalled. At the 1936 Summer Olympics in Berlin, Germany, Owens won international fame with four gold medals: 100 meters, 200 meters, long jump, and 4 × 100 meter relay. He was the most successful athlete at the games and, as a Black man, was credited with "single-handedly crushing Hitler's myth of Aryan supremacy", although he "wasn't invited to the White House to shake hands with the President, either."
"Owens said at the time:
Hitler had a certain time to come to the stadium and a certain time to leave. It happened he had to leave before the victory ceremony after the 100 meters. But before he left I was on my way to a broadcast and passed near his box. He waved at me and I waved back. I think it was bad taste to criticize the 'man of the hour' in another country. "
"His achievement of setting three world records and tying another in less than an hour at the 1935 Big Ten track meet in Ann Arbor, Michigan, has been called "the greatest 45 minutes ever in sport" and has never been equalled. At the 1936 Summer Olympics in Berlin, Germany, Owens won international fame with four gold medals: 100 meters, 200 meters, long jump, and 4 × 100 meter relay. He was the most successful athlete at the games and, as a Black man, was credited with "single-handedly crushing Hitler's myth of Aryan supremacy", although he "wasn't invited to the White House to shake hands with the President, either."
1 December 2016 00:12
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my friend told me , he was sent to child prison in Germany for a month for just telling that he likes Adolf (but hi did not know back then , that he did not know is not allowed to like..but this did not save him..)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater
1 December 2016 00:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vast Küll : )
30 November 2016 23:53
Margus Meigo commented on Aimar Oraff Oppi's post.
kuid kuti teise küljepealt vadates, meeldib sirge seljaga stoilse rahuga houumor ja ühiskondlik sonum mida jagab
30 November 2016 23:46
Margus Meigo commented on Aimar Oraff Oppi's post.
Onneks sedasi meie ühiskonnast ka filtreerub inimkond sedasi oigemaks, et need kes vett ei joo kaova ise ära, eriti kui arvavad, et viinas vitamiine on:D
30 November 2016 23:45
Margus Meigo commented on Kidd Peace's post.
just wanted to remove someone from my contact list to make room for my mother but this video sharing i keep you
thanks
thanks
30 November 2016 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on Kidd Peace's post.
wou
30 November 2016 23:39
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30 November 2016 23:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lugu 2.
"Õhtul kodus, kui õpetaja töid kontrollis, jäi ta pidama ühe kirjutise juurde, mis tegi ta väga kurvaks. Sel hetkel tuli tema mees tuppa ja nägi naise silmis pisaraid.
„Miks sa nutad?“ küsis mees.
„Loe ise,“ ulatas õpetaja kirjandi oma mehele.
„Jumal, täna ma palun sinult midagi erilist. Palun muuda mind televiisoriks. Ma soovin tema kohta endale. Tahan elada nii, nagu elab televiisor meie majas. Soovin, et mul oleks samasugune eriline koht ja et perekond koguneks minu ümber. Et kui ma räägin, siis mind kuulataks ilma vahele rääkimata ja küsimusi esitamata. Ma soovin olla tähelepanu keskpunkt. Soovin, et minuga tegeldaks samamoodi, nagu tegeldakse televiisoriga, kui see lakkab töötamast. Soovin olla isa seltskonnas, kui ta tuleb töölt koju, isegi siis, kui ta on väsinud. Soovin, et minu ema minu ignoreerimise asemel tuleks minu juurde, kui ta jääb üksi ja muutub kurvaks. Soovin, et vanemad kas või vahel jätaksid kõik toimingud sinnapaika ja veedaksid natuke aega koos minuga. Jumal, ma ei palu ju palju… ma soovin ainult elada nii, nagu elab tavaline televiisor meie kodus.“
„Õudne. Vaene poiss!“ hüüdis õpetaja mees. „Mis vanemad need sellised küll on?“
Õpetaja vastas: „See on meie poja kirjand.“"
"Õhtul kodus, kui õpetaja töid kontrollis, jäi ta pidama ühe kirjutise juurde, mis tegi ta väga kurvaks. Sel hetkel tuli tema mees tuppa ja nägi naise silmis pisaraid.
„Miks sa nutad?“ küsis mees.
„Loe ise,“ ulatas õpetaja kirjandi oma mehele.
„Jumal, täna ma palun sinult midagi erilist. Palun muuda mind televiisoriks. Ma soovin tema kohta endale. Tahan elada nii, nagu elab televiisor meie majas. Soovin, et mul oleks samasugune eriline koht ja et perekond koguneks minu ümber. Et kui ma räägin, siis mind kuulataks ilma vahele rääkimata ja küsimusi esitamata. Ma soovin olla tähelepanu keskpunkt. Soovin, et minuga tegeldaks samamoodi, nagu tegeldakse televiisoriga, kui see lakkab töötamast. Soovin olla isa seltskonnas, kui ta tuleb töölt koju, isegi siis, kui ta on väsinud. Soovin, et minu ema minu ignoreerimise asemel tuleks minu juurde, kui ta jääb üksi ja muutub kurvaks. Soovin, et vanemad kas või vahel jätaksid kõik toimingud sinnapaika ja veedaksid natuke aega koos minuga. Jumal, ma ei palu ju palju… ma soovin ainult elada nii, nagu elab tavaline televiisor meie kodus.“
„Õudne. Vaene poiss!“ hüüdis õpetaja mees. „Mis vanemad need sellised küll on?“
Õpetaja vastas: „See on meie poja kirjand.“"
30 November 2016 23:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Hea lapsevanem. Märka oma last alati, mitte ainult siis, kui ta on kurb. Ära osta teda asjadega ära, pööra talle tähelepanu, anna talle võimalus veeta aega koos sinuga. Lapsele pole palju vaja, et ta oleks õnnelik. Lase lapsel olla laps!"
30 November 2016 23:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i learned always look it as really positive if something is to do with Jews, as against them same what is against Germany, is done thousands of years , against shamans and nature people and good people even longer, we assume safely
30 November 2016 21:08
Margus Meigo commented on Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's post.
You know the communist tube really tickes my nerves at times,
relating to a videos a things like that :
even if you newer looked to boobies.. in hope to divert viewers.. is int that lame.. and for female profiles i think they use some new age relationship or drama videos, or even kittens
that would be still okey, actually.. or something else smarter, but use female like this.. boy these commies.. (spiritual beings inside humans that co-operate against humans and against females and against nature and they are mainly against shamanism and jews (from their real point of view that would have been basic German norm as well, if they would only fallow it properly...but Scandinavia eugenic liberals and Lutherans made their job. with some history back ROman Gay-sar influenced rulers. Who also was mostly hypnotized by Luther it self even if they-want to make look as it is their own idea ))
so how you think about, is not related directly to this that Alphabet owner is Russian blood Jewsih a bit, but in another way, better way it is,
relating to a videos a things like that :
even if you newer looked to boobies.. in hope to divert viewers.. is int that lame.. and for female profiles i think they use some new age relationship or drama videos, or even kittens
that would be still okey, actually.. or something else smarter, but use female like this.. boy these commies.. (spiritual beings inside humans that co-operate against humans and against females and against nature and they are mainly against shamanism and jews (from their real point of view that would have been basic German norm as well, if they would only fallow it properly...but Scandinavia eugenic liberals and Lutherans made their job. with some history back ROman Gay-sar influenced rulers. Who also was mostly hypnotized by Luther it self even if they-want to make look as it is their own idea ))
so how you think about, is not related directly to this that Alphabet owner is Russian blood Jewsih a bit, but in another way, better way it is,
30 November 2016 21:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
really perfect tune
30 November 2016 20:43
Margus Meigo commented on Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's post.
Symbolically rather later was used " Jew " and perhaps it is as Rabbi Manis told, that these who use Hebrew culture as a religion are dangerous and perhaps even sick.
30 November 2016 20:39
Margus Meigo commented on Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's post.
Almost perfect but still because of fear of admiring the size of communism did not dare to say it is a Jews who are truly high level and that the communist have turned in to Jews and others around them big lies, like they would be on separate sides, actually it was fake Hebrews and temporally mentally or situation vise invaded other victims and doers in a other nation and also their own nation skin, who worked against this against every good is ultimately.
30 November 2016 20:38
Margus Meigo replied to Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's comment.
smile
30 November 2016 20:04
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Group: Poliitikast ja elust - Arutleme vabalt
kes selliseid arulagedaid labasusi toodab?30 November 2016 18:26
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xcite.net nimeserverite taga, Lite>Erotika domain, fabulous resitratuur. nameserverid west and east xvcite.net
Mis mitte midagi siinkohal tähendama ei pea seotuselt ega sült, kuid samamoodi toimida ka muude infodega kuni siitmaalt edasi saab reaalsi vastuseid nudma mis loppeeesmark oleks selle osas mille osas internetiga surt hulgas enamus
Mis mitte midagi siinkohal tähendama ei pea seotuselt ega sült, kuid samamoodi toimida ka muude infodega kuni siitmaalt edasi saab reaalsi vastuseid nudma mis loppeeesmark oleks selle osas mille osas internetiga surt hulgas enamus
http://xcite.net/
30 November 2016 04:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(sda relvana saab kasutada ka inimene ise selle asja tehes enda umber kaitset luues ja teistele seda pakkudes aidates luua)
30 November 2016 04:37
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30 November 2016 04:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as dark blue sea also related to fabulous.com, then can assume they are in same circle of friends, with each other not just using randomly other ones emails, in all we know cases.
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30 November 2016 04:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
08007319878 terme
30 November 2016 04:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
30 November 2016 04:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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http://fabulous.com/
30 November 2016 04:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Page says made in 1998!
Important Dates
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Registration Expiration Date: 2024-11-20
Name Servers
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east.xcite.net
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Registrar URL: http://www.fabulous.com
Updated Date: 2015-07-20T06:27:17Z
Creation Date: 1998-11-21T05:00:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2024-11-20T00:00:00Z
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Name Servers
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>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2016-11-29T18:00:00Z <<
http://west.xcite.net/
30 November 2016 04:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
wwwkuy from this grandaddy server
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Abuse Contact Email:abuse@fabulous.com
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Registrar: FABULOUS.COM PTY LTD.
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Abuse Contact Email:abuse@fabulous.com
Abuse Contact Phone: +61.282133005
30 November 2016 04:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Contact Information
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30 November 2016 04:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
30 November 2016 04:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And who registereed it, ofcourse, Wolney Russel
Do ya know him Jack Russel to be?
Do ya know him Jack Russel to be?
30 November 2016 04:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
rahvaraha.ee
30 November 2016 04:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
rahvakeeli st oli plaanis kirjutada
30 November 2016 04:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/2015/03/alpha-course-christianmastertraining.html#gsc.tab=0 Masoreetlusest rääkides, Kuid need kes veel omadega valmis pole, ehksiis "Alphad" (enne neid beetasi kes uue ja vana vahel veel ja pole päris kasutusse vanaaja arusaamade järgi võetud,ehk siis pole veel elusse otsustatud jätta rahakeeli otse koheselt sonastades)
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/2015/03/alpha-course-christianmastertraining.html#gsc.tab=0
30 November 2016 04:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ära seda viimast heli kuula kui hetkeliselt siis ainult paar minutit mitte kauem, siis läheb sama haigeks kui selle hääle kahlustus
30 November 2016 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but please do not listen this audio if you are normal person
30 November 2016 04:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yea, what a veird lie to lie about to a audio about a lie that you lied that was true, but you lied that it was lie, (so why to)
https://youtu.be/6Vb9gxrjmm0?t=575
"Oo. .they cansee my IP.. that freaks usually hacker in to half white situation , except not,
so why homo person can read this text but not the one who understands this humor, or did he also and intent like that was ... noo it would be almoust but something is still related to wrong starting to related to voice to a story corelations about... who would think out text for some one else to read, with in purpose the reader eliminating mistakes in it,
well, yes that maybe was the answer, why it was sent to thim (themhim) first of all, seems elementary, except in a rare occasion when someone ,
https://youtu.be/6Vb9gxrjmm0?t=575
"Oo. .they cansee my IP.. that freaks usually hacker in to half white situation , except not,
so why homo person can read this text but not the one who understands this humor, or did he also and intent like that was ... noo it would be almoust but something is still related to wrong starting to related to voice to a story corelations about... who would think out text for some one else to read, with in purpose the reader eliminating mistakes in it,
well, yes that maybe was the answer, why it was sent to thim (themhim) first of all, seems elementary, except in a rare occasion when someone ,
30 November 2016 04:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but as activity or action, different from shape of activity, sound or etc
30 November 2016 03:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but not literally
30 November 2016 03:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as it is literally like that, in my language, yes related to a bird
30 November 2016 03:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(lets hope, Kiia will not sue us for that)
30 November 2016 03:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so estonia can be applied in another languages ka
30 November 2016 03:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ho boy how much i enjoy more writing like that
30 November 2016 03:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
at first i was wating to say "what, chamoon,only 2,3 people like this, camoon, even i like this," but then i looked it and noticed, that oo, four, so thats is alright already
30 November 2016 03:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Yahoole pidin selle idee andma, kuid kuna Andres ka ei viitsinud to aeg le nelja aasta tagasi kaasa lüüa siis ma ise ka siiani pole hakanud pihta ja juba direktorid paar korda muutnud jms,
ja see naine ka, kuidas tal saigi onnestuda kui ta minuga ühenussse ei saanud , ei antud edasi kaastööliste poolt piisavalt seleglt
ja see naine ka, kuidas tal saigi onnestuda kui ta minuga ühenussse ei saanud , ei antud edasi kaastööliste poolt piisavalt seleglt
30 November 2016 02:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yeah give that url later to me what You registered with our plan
30 November 2016 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://margus-meigo.blogspot.com.ee/2016/11/httpswww.html
http://margus-meigo.blogspot.com.ee/2016/11/httpswww.html
30 November 2016 02:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://margus-meigo.blogspot.com.ee/2016/11/httpswww.html
http://margus-meigo.blogspot.com.ee/2016/11/httpswww.html
30 November 2016 02:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
30 November 2016 02:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Domain Name: LITEROTICA.COM
Registrar: FABULOUS.COM PTY LTD.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 411
Whois Server: whois.fabulous.com
Referral URL: http://www.fabulous.com
Name Server: EAST.XCITE.NET
Name Server: WEST.XCITE.NET
Status: clientDeleteProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 20-jul-2015
Creation Date: 21-nov-1998
Expiration Date: 20-nov-2024
>>> Last update of whois database: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:57:10 GMT <<<
Registrar: FABULOUS.COM PTY LTD.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 411
Whois Server: whois.fabulous.com
Referral URL: http://www.fabulous.com
Name Server: EAST.XCITE.NET
Name Server: WEST.XCITE.NET
Status: clientDeleteProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 20-jul-2015
Creation Date: 21-nov-1998
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>>> Last update of whois database: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:57:10 GMT <<<
http://literotica.com/
30 November 2016 02:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
my this night sharing for gmail password is : Armastuses or Armastus0n and facebook access code whit my email is O0apstkrl1
but get me online first at times for better success for confirmation number when needed
Just know is not a "Welcome to Panda House"
but get me online first at times for better success for confirmation number when needed
Just know is not a "Welcome to Panda House"
30 November 2016 02:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
How come facebook has changed again in to "you can choose only one contact list with who to share something from direct wall in menu, even trough crome
30 November 2016 02:02
Margus Meigo replied to Martin Izat's comment.
So what Are You to and more who to you know ? (& whue more you know to)
30 November 2016 01:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
BlueDarkness i must(d) say
Mission Blue Blue Republican
Mission Blue Blue Republican
30 November 2016 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on The Kingmakers Society's post.
People are friend with fakes and in fake or bad groups for different reasons
29 November 2016 09:30
Margus Meigo commented on The Kingmakers Society's link.
These pages are long removed, only small mention is left:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=95504071
We need better platform with more surviving structures, ...just waiting someone to ask my help and to use my potentials
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=95504071
We need better platform with more surviving structures, ...just waiting someone to ask my help and to use my potentials
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=95504071
29 November 2016 09:26
Margus Meigo replied to Michael Hall's comment.
your theory Mich is more near to reallity then this what they are on about
28 November 2016 23:23
Margus Meigo commented on Futurism's link.
one theory after another, but they still not realize, what it REALLY means, ... in a Laabarotory point of view who makes places like our space and earth
28 November 2016 23:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
silent roar
28 November 2016 15:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
stay still and dance
28 November 2016 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I am really, We might be something else, unless Your numbers fit to a same dates..
28 November 2016 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on Sociedad Teosofica Mardelplata's photo.
The best
http://www.bing.com/search?q=hezekiah+ankh+seal&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=hezekiah+ankh+seal
http://www.bing.com/search?q=hezekiah+ankh+seal&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=hezekiah+ankh+seal
http://www.bing.com/search?q=hezekiah+ankh+seal&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=hezekiah+ankh+seal
28 November 2016 15:36
Margus Meigo replied to Sergei Sarasenidze's comment.
And when this comes to this...
https://youtu.be/yMMk5tmydas?t=3m33s
Then .. where to change from it... ("to progress"), everywhere one would try to change to would be like turning around yourself under the water - still same wett, whatever direction one will try to look.
every wold or system you end up to outer or inner earth, you still base your center point based on understanding: you got to understand what to do and then do it (do goOd).
https://youtu.be/yMMk5tmydas?t=3m33s
Then .. where to change from it... ("to progress"), everywhere one would try to change to would be like turning around yourself under the water - still same wett, whatever direction one will try to look.
every wold or system you end up to outer or inner earth, you still base your center point based on understanding: you got to understand what to do and then do it (do goOd).
https://youtu.be/yMMk5tmydas?t=3m33s
27 November 2016 08:06
Margus Meigo replied to Sergei Sarasenidze's comment.
and when one becomes right wing is kind of hard to become wrong wing ... it would just not make sense...
and when one has lost the wings (as there is nothing fully practical we can do only with a left or right, even if angel wings..)...and discovered a women, then hard to become uncaring,
so yea, no worries to turn back, and for sure not to a democrat (demonCrazism) level, as democrat-ism is anyway inside all huge proper philosophies as a part, slave-keepers just thought they can copyright, patent, own exclusive rights to co-operation and make it mandatory,
it would be like copyrighting veganism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_0_suZntks
and when one has lost the wings (as there is nothing fully practical we can do only with a left or right, even if angel wings..)...and discovered a women, then hard to become uncaring,
so yea, no worries to turn back, and for sure not to a democrat (demonCrazism) level, as democrat-ism is anyway inside all huge proper philosophies as a part, slave-keepers just thought they can copyright, patent, own exclusive rights to co-operation and make it mandatory,
it would be like copyrighting veganism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_0_suZntks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_0_suZntks
27 November 2016 07:51
Margus Meigo replied to Sergei Sarasenidze's comment.
But in reality the red liberals are like that,
and i do not mean in personal as the humans it self, but the spiritual realization behind it all.. spiritual as five star pentagram alien kind of dark forces if they do exist,
there is still hope they do not, soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFCSXr6qnv4
and i do not mean in personal as the humans it self, but the spiritual realization behind it all.. spiritual as five star pentagram alien kind of dark forces if they do exist,
there is still hope they do not, soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFCSXr6qnv4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFCSXr6qnv4
27 November 2016 07:42
Margus Meigo replied to Sergei Sarasenidze's comment.
No, once democrat realizes the epic wonders of communism, there is no going back.
It would be like one play with kids plastic star-wars sword or Harry Potter sticks and then gets taste and realization of real one ... how lame it would feel and unsatisfactory to go back to
Democrat and Communist talking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NROSDKU-8cU
It would be like one play with kids plastic star-wars sword or Harry Potter sticks and then gets taste and realization of real one ... how lame it would feel and unsatisfactory to go back to
Democrat and Communist talking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NROSDKU-8cU
27 November 2016 07:38
Margus Meigo replied to Sergei Sarasenidze's comment.
it is much harder to progress backward then forward after some point
27 November 2016 07:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Please Choose policy You support or recommend new one:
http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2015/03/opinion/ctl-child-poverty/#118
http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2015/03/opinion/ctl-child-poverty/#118
http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2015/03/opinion/ctl-child-poverty/#118
27 November 2016 02:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Solutions that would work:
1. Rise housing, would prevent 20% of poverty, (this is combined population in numbewrs of San Francisco and Philadelphia). Annual cos would be 23.5 billion compared to 500+ billion loses related to child poverty
2. Raise a minimal wage (on adjusting to inflation, minimum wage is a lot less worth right now then in 60's , over 25% less, so in another words in 50 years people in USA have started to get over 25% less pay while prices of everything have risen...). Rising minimum wage to $10.10 and tipped worker wage $7.07 would reduce child poverty extra 4%, this would help over 400 000 children out of poverty.
3. Early education and child care, spending 5.3 billion for education would help to rise out estimated more then 300 000 more children out from poverty. in Iceland child education is starting from 2, in usa "only" 40% of 3-4 years are enrolled
//this is actually evil plan, if done wrong...
4. Give Poor family's cash, let them decide how to use it, Cherokee, North Carolina pays tribal members biannual stipend and social ills have declined,
tribal council voted to distribute 50% of casino profits among its 15 000 members, in beginning it was 500 not 10 000 per year,
study based on 1420 (420..) kids who did get casino money vs the ones who did not, , a yearly $4000 payment, reduced 22% the odds that kids would commit crime in late teens
on year 21 they was average grade ahead and over 40% kids had less mental or behavioral problems
This kind of anti-poverty argument was first made over century ago researches told.
"Stop trying to micromanage the poor and dividing up the "deserving poor" from "undeserving poor". Just give them the money. Jane Castello, Duke University
She thinks, similar program called basic income would also work on larger scale.,
Choose policy You support:
http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2015/03/opinion/ctl-child-poverty/#118
1. Rise housing, would prevent 20% of poverty, (this is combined population in numbewrs of San Francisco and Philadelphia). Annual cos would be 23.5 billion compared to 500+ billion loses related to child poverty
2. Raise a minimal wage (on adjusting to inflation, minimum wage is a lot less worth right now then in 60's , over 25% less, so in another words in 50 years people in USA have started to get over 25% less pay while prices of everything have risen...). Rising minimum wage to $10.10 and tipped worker wage $7.07 would reduce child poverty extra 4%, this would help over 400 000 children out of poverty.
3. Early education and child care, spending 5.3 billion for education would help to rise out estimated more then 300 000 more children out from poverty. in Iceland child education is starting from 2, in usa "only" 40% of 3-4 years are enrolled
//this is actually evil plan, if done wrong...
4. Give Poor family's cash, let them decide how to use it, Cherokee, North Carolina pays tribal members biannual stipend and social ills have declined,
tribal council voted to distribute 50% of casino profits among its 15 000 members, in beginning it was 500 not 10 000 per year,
study based on 1420 (420..) kids who did get casino money vs the ones who did not, , a yearly $4000 payment, reduced 22% the odds that kids would commit crime in late teens
on year 21 they was average grade ahead and over 40% kids had less mental or behavioral problems
This kind of anti-poverty argument was first made over century ago researches told.
"Stop trying to micromanage the poor and dividing up the "deserving poor" from "undeserving poor". Just give them the money. Jane Castello, Duke University
She thinks, similar program called basic income would also work on larger scale.,
Choose policy You support:
http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2015/03/opinion/ctl-child-poverty/#118
27 November 2016 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Jungle has a way to steal a persons identity, making them forget who and what they was before the place"
(they used for dark magic)
One of the biggest dangerous "slums" called Jungle, walk away from world richest company's. Gangs walk around with weaponry there and rape women... mostly it is made up of poor family and street criminals and addicts.
(they used for dark magic)
One of the biggest dangerous "slums" called Jungle, walk away from world richest company's. Gangs walk around with weaponry there and rape women... mostly it is made up of poor family and street criminals and addicts.
27 November 2016 01:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
27 November 2016 01:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
People in home aiting list over 2-5 years, working family
http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2015/03/opinion/ctl-child-poverty/#26
Video link:
http://ht.cdn.turner.com/cnn/big//opinions/2015/02/25/change-the-list-poverty-working-shelter-sutter-orig-ba.cnn_212038_768x432_1300k.mp4
http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2015/03/opinion/ctl-child-poverty/#26
Video link:
http://ht.cdn.turner.com/cnn/big//opinions/2015/02/25/change-the-list-poverty-working-shelter-sutter-orig-ba.cnn_212038_768x432_1300k.mp4
http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2015/03/opinion/ctl-child-poverty/#26
27 November 2016 01:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
27 November 2016 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
27 November 2016 01:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
is that by % or by total number or children ?
Still..
In Estonia 21% is under poverty line but is still advertised as success story, to make it harder to get out from slave situation,
that we are forced on to as long we will break and upgrade our one of the world smallest National Dept to the levels of other country's who do as they are told to
Still..
In Estonia 21% is under poverty line but is still advertised as success story, to make it harder to get out from slave situation,
that we are forced on to as long we will break and upgrade our one of the world smallest National Dept to the levels of other country's who do as they are told to
27 November 2016 01:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
.
http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2015/03/opinion/ctl-child-poverty/
http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2015/03/opinion/ctl-child-poverty/
http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2015/03/opinion/ctl-child-poverty/
27 November 2016 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on Jay Dyer's post.
Group: The Spiritual Intelligence Network
Can You share highlights of it ?26 November 2016 18:41
Margus Meigo commented on Maya Todorova's post.
Group: The Spiritual Intelligence Network
You know the calendar so well26 November 2016 18:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
meeldib kuidas visuaalselt uks seina äär on sirge ja ..
26 November 2016 12:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own life event.
26 November 2016 10:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
sõnadetu, heliline, muusikaliselt vulisev nagu kevad oja
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5cvloFP4j0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5cvloFP4j0
26 November 2016 09:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Need Hommikuid kus näed nagu polekski neid kes Valgust ei näe
Uus hommik kuis sädeled Sa
Nagu polekski valu maailmas
Uus hommik Sa naeratad nii
Nagu polekski nii palju pisaraid
Uus hommik su puudutus soe
Külm ja pimedus kuidas üldse ei loe
Uus hommik kuis sinust saab päev
Nagu hommik kuis sinust saab päev
Nagu polekski neid kes valgust ei näe
Uus hommik uus päev
Lootuse värvid säravad siin
Uus hommik uus päev
Mulle naeratad sa ma vastan sulle samaga
Issand Su lähedust nii selgelt tunda võin
Ma tänan Sind et lootuse mu südamesse tõid
Uus hommik sa kusid mind maast
Nagu oleksin Linnuteel lendamas
Uus hommik sa kõneled ju
taeva ilust taeva armastust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDgGpMU3_6E
Uus hommik kuis sädeled Sa
Nagu polekski valu maailmas
Uus hommik Sa naeratad nii
Nagu polekski nii palju pisaraid
Uus hommik su puudutus soe
Külm ja pimedus kuidas üldse ei loe
Uus hommik kuis sinust saab päev
Nagu hommik kuis sinust saab päev
Nagu polekski neid kes valgust ei näe
Uus hommik uus päev
Lootuse värvid säravad siin
Uus hommik uus päev
Mulle naeratad sa ma vastan sulle samaga
Issand Su lähedust nii selgelt tunda võin
Ma tänan Sind et lootuse mu südamesse tõid
Uus hommik sa kusid mind maast
Nagu oleksin Linnuteel lendamas
Uus hommik sa kõneled ju
taeva ilust taeva armastust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDgGpMU3_6E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDgGpMU3_6E
26 November 2016 08:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja lihtsustatult... kergendatult.. ilustatult,
Unistades suvest kollasest,
sulen silmad ma,
kõlab õuel ööbikutelaul,
miski uinub ta.
Kuulen kuidas süda taob.
Igatsusest öösse kaob.
Refr: Sinu kõrval ma tahan kõndida,
üle lilli täis heinamaal.
Ja su silmi,neid tahan vaadata,
mesilindu töös suvilas.
Põrandale maha lebama
jäävad raamatud,
nad mind sinna jäävad ootama,
kuni tantsitud.
Kasteheinas seisan siin.
Soovin,et mind kaasa viid.
Refr: Sinu kõrval ma tahan kõndida,
üle lilli täis heinamaal.
Ja su silmi, neid tahan vaadata,
mesilindu töös suvilas.
Ooehoo, jalad sammuvad ikka edasi
ei mõtle peatuda.
Ooehoo,ilus ime meie ümber peidab end,
vaid üles leia ta.
Refr: Sinu kõrval ma tahan kõndida,
üle lilli täis heinamaal.
Ja su silmi, neid tahan vaadata,
mesilindu töös suvilas.
Ja ka päiksega tahan ärgata,
sulle avada - da-da.
Ja kui langeb neid
öisi tuhandeid,
näib see kõik kui kaunis unistus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJao8S45ml4
Unistades suvest kollasest,
sulen silmad ma,
kõlab õuel ööbikutelaul,
miski uinub ta.
Kuulen kuidas süda taob.
Igatsusest öösse kaob.
Refr: Sinu kõrval ma tahan kõndida,
üle lilli täis heinamaal.
Ja su silmi,neid tahan vaadata,
mesilindu töös suvilas.
Põrandale maha lebama
jäävad raamatud,
nad mind sinna jäävad ootama,
kuni tantsitud.
Kasteheinas seisan siin.
Soovin,et mind kaasa viid.
Refr: Sinu kõrval ma tahan kõndida,
üle lilli täis heinamaal.
Ja su silmi, neid tahan vaadata,
mesilindu töös suvilas.
Ooehoo, jalad sammuvad ikka edasi
ei mõtle peatuda.
Ooehoo,ilus ime meie ümber peidab end,
vaid üles leia ta.
Refr: Sinu kõrval ma tahan kõndida,
üle lilli täis heinamaal.
Ja su silmi, neid tahan vaadata,
mesilindu töös suvilas.
Ja ka päiksega tahan ärgata,
sulle avada - da-da.
Ja kui langeb neid
öisi tuhandeid,
näib see kõik kui kaunis unistus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJao8S45ml4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJao8S45ml4
26 November 2016 08:53
Margus Meigo replied to Angela LS Yumiko's comment.
comforting : )
25 November 2016 06:59
Margus Meigo commented on People's Uprising's post.
They Are
25 November 2016 06:05
Margus Meigo commented on Bat Country's link.
I made Group for agency's, will post link soon
25 November 2016 06:00
Margus Meigo commented on David Branch's post.
problem is that great part of FBI is from Scientology and they are anti Clinton and pro trump for a reason
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
25 November 2016 05:47
Margus Meigo commented on Lisa Love Schuble's post.
a bit related..
problem is that great part of FBI is from Scientology and they are anti Clinton and pro trump for a reason
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
problem is that great part of FBI is from Scientology and they are anti Clinton and pro trump for a reason
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
25 November 2016 05:44
Margus Meigo commented on Trish Ormsbee's post.
problem is that great part of FBI is from Scientology and they are anti Clinton and pro trump for a reason
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
25 November 2016 05:43
Margus Meigo commented on Lloyd Keene's post.
problem is that great part of FBI is from Scientology and they are anti Clinton and pro trump for a reason
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
25 November 2016 05:42
Margus Meigo commented on Hanson J Kan's post.
problem is that great part of FBI is from Scientology and they are anti Clinton and pro trump for a reason
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
25 November 2016 05:40
Margus Meigo commented on Bill Weberling's post.
problem is that great part of FBI is from Scientology and they are anti Clinton and pro trump for a reason
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
25 November 2016 05:40
Margus Meigo commented on True News Stories Media Wont Follow's link.
problem is that great part of FBI is from Scientology and they are anti Clinton and pro trump for a reason
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
25 November 2016 05:36
Margus Meigo commented on Operation Eagle Talon's link.
problem is that great part is from Scientology and they are anti Clinton and pro trump for a reason
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
25 November 2016 05:30
Margus Meigo commented on Mauro Lore's post.
problem is that great part is from Scientology and they are anti Clinton and pro trump for a reason
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
25 November 2016 05:29
Margus Meigo commented on Clint Stevens's post.
problem is that great part is from Scientology and they are anti Clinton and pro trump for a reason
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
Trump even praised them...
Scientology got hand on already strong way when they break in to FBI on 80s and many other offices in global operation to get papers for blackmailing USA gov, as they as we know, are under pentagram, FSB , KGB and way more darker forces not to mention better..
25 November 2016 05:29
Margus Meigo commented on Gregory Hart's post.
He does not have to, he is billionaire, he is the true elite
25 November 2016 05:23
Margus Meigo commented on Gregory Hart's photo.
or Native America...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10210134351132009&set=p.10210134351132009&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10210134351132009&set=p.10210134351132009&type=3&theater
25 November 2016 05:22
Margus Meigo replied to Bobby Wood's comment.
Lack of presidents like her, shaping us in to Matriarchy, is a reason why humans with mouth like yours are still allowed to exist,
Not for long, humans have to evolve, in direction of Women, as rest of the nature
Not for long, humans have to evolve, in direction of Women, as rest of the nature
25 November 2016 05:13
Margus Meigo commented on Gregory Hart's post.
Trump is way more pussy then Clinton, actually
to speak so
to speak so
25 November 2016 05:09
Margus Meigo commented on FBI – Federal Bureau of Investigation's link.
So why to remove it.. Where i can get it ?
25 November 2016 05:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Americans for President Trump (Original)
i thought it was a partner of USA and EU in Syria..25 November 2016 05:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Americans for President Trump (Original)
even if that would e needed25 November 2016 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on Sal Saygin Simsek's post.
Group: Americans for President Trump (Original)
Lol, yeah.. he can do it.
Does he have religious understandings to say something like that?
This kind of job can be only done with help of actual knowers of faith, and know how to do it, it will be huge project and has not so much benefit, it is connected with more older organizations then USA age
but besides, it is religious based, so it can not be banned just like that25 November 2016 05:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
While we @ it, anyone have copy of this to share or know how to get:
https://www.facebook.com/8EyesonKorea/photos/a.1497766640532924.1073741827.1496240107352244/1575038336139087/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/8EyesonKorea/photos/a.1497766640532924.1073741827.1496240107352244/1575038336139087/?type=3&theater
25 November 2016 04:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
will do that,
Need a copy when i get one ?
Need a copy when i get one ?
25 November 2016 04:49
Margus Meigo commented on 8 Eyes on Korea, A Travel Perspective of Seoul, Korea's photo.
Did we figure out how to get it somehow ?
Is it possible to copy ?
Is it possible to copy ?
25 November 2016 04:46
Margus Meigo commented on Naser T M El-Hasan's post.
Group: NWO FREEDOM FIGHTERS
I thought it is US Army Intelligence and Security Command25 November 2016 04:38
Margus Meigo commented on The Nigerian Blog's link.
harsh
25 November 2016 04:05
Margus Meigo commented on Fatima Elizabeth Wales's photo.
Best picture compared to all others, most real one, most pure one
25 November 2016 03:14
Margus Meigo commented on Killuminati Soldiers's note.
Well, still good.
so-CIA-lnetWork... not really hard to come to it. and even if it would be it would be forced to be, As was done with russian version of facebook, go just step in and told one day "it is ours"
In usa, they make things nicer, when can.
so-CIA-lnetWork... not really hard to come to it. and even if it would be it would be forced to be, As was done with russian version of facebook, go just step in and told one day "it is ours"
In usa, they make things nicer, when can.
25 November 2016 01:19
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
oooh boy.. is it true about Kanye!??!
(omg #PrayForKanye )
(omg #PrayForKanye )
24 November 2016 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on Tuhin Kumar Dutta's post.
awww, he looks little bit like general Saddam
24 November 2016 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on Tuhin Kumar Dutta's post.
People kind of forget so easy, that from Philippines to Estonia to USA... all 2 party systems (left and right) is based on ONE Global system and it is in the end forced to be one system, to all as it is, made by global occupiers, the trick, for ALL lands, to force them choose and allow them to make any party they want...and then time by time infiltrate or sink them all.
Only Royal kind of system makes sense, where all party work for a SAME goal NOT against each other, as if there is OPPOSITION, true, in your land, then they are enemy and should not have right to take part of any government activity, or at least they should be explained, to be like that, in all media.
How can people fall to this democracy game so easily ? Not able to see, that it is a kind of sick if as a gov you HAVE to keep your enemy alive?
Democracy is the liberal, is the communist, is the Greek-roman system (that is anti nature, anti women and anti singular connecting god)
Only Royal kind of system makes sense, where all party work for a SAME goal NOT against each other, as if there is OPPOSITION, true, in your land, then they are enemy and should not have right to take part of any government activity, or at least they should be explained, to be like that, in all media.
How can people fall to this democracy game so easily ? Not able to see, that it is a kind of sick if as a gov you HAVE to keep your enemy alive?
Democracy is the liberal, is the communist, is the Greek-roman system (that is anti nature, anti women and anti singular connecting god)
24 November 2016 22:02
Margus Meigo commented on Tuhin Kumar Dutta's post.
Good Morning, Thank You :)
Top down to horizontal,
how you mean, for all i -IT?
Top down to horizontal,
how you mean, for all i -IT?
24 November 2016 21:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: CIA - Central Intelligence Agency
(Sleeping is UNI , like UNi-Verse..)24 November 2016 21:12
Margus Meigo commented on Francois Stephane Assoo Mvondo's post.
Group: CIA - Central Intelligence Agency
MAGA means Sleep! in Estonian : )24 November 2016 21:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siis veel palju muid huvitaid plaane neil, aretavad putukaid ja toite mis sugu muudavad... vandenõu lehed ka, allpool "related news" antyOligarch kuid need enamus infoWars lehed kes ise väga paaniliselt ühekülgselt asju selgitab.
Nägemata ka asjade helgemat poolt.
Kuid jah, see plaan, et nad ohku puistavad need nanooskaesed mis inimesi suguvõimetuks teeb oli üks suuremaid sõjalises mõttes.
http://preventdisease.com/news/10/030110_gates_vaccines_population_control.shtml
https://antioligarch.wordpress.com/2012/12/16/bill-gates-funds-nano-cloth-whose-fibers-deliver-contraceptive-and-hiv-drugs/
Nägemata ka asjade helgemat poolt.
Kuid jah, see plaan, et nad ohku puistavad need nanooskaesed mis inimesi suguvõimetuks teeb oli üks suuremaid sõjalises mõttes.
http://preventdisease.com/news/10/030110_gates_vaccines_population_control.shtml
https://antioligarch.wordpress.com/2012/12/16/bill-gates-funds-nano-cloth-whose-fibers-deliver-contraceptive-and-hiv-drugs/
http://preventdisease.com/news/10/030110_gates_vaccines_population_control.shtml
24 November 2016 06:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja veel: et siis enne keppi mobiili äppiga peaks saama valida kas soovid rasestudavoi mitte,
"ireless technology allows the remotely controlled chip to turn a woman’s ability to conceive off or on at will – temporary sterilization."
"The birth control chip is the brain child of a professor, Robert Langer, from Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Bill Gates and Melinda foundation has funded the research and the prototype is ready for human testing. The chips will be ready for sale by the year 2018 according to Robert Langer. The institute’s Chip Foundation and Bill Gates’ foundation have been working on the birth control chip for past three years.
The chip’s size is 20mm by 20mm by 7mm. The reservoirs of hormones would be stored on a microchip of 1.5cm. The chip’s data would always be encrypted so that others (cybercriminals or hackers) cannot access the information contained in the chip or misuse/alter or destroy it.
[...]
The release of hormones will be done by melting a part of solid hormonal stock using a small electric shock which won’t be noticed by humans.
[...]
The safety tests would begin by the end of year 2015 and Robert Langer is confident that the chips will hit market sometime in 2018. "
http://www.globalresearch.ca/bill-gates-temporary-sterilization-microchip-in-beta-female-testing-by-end-of-year/5460181
"ireless technology allows the remotely controlled chip to turn a woman’s ability to conceive off or on at will – temporary sterilization."
"The birth control chip is the brain child of a professor, Robert Langer, from Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Bill Gates and Melinda foundation has funded the research and the prototype is ready for human testing. The chips will be ready for sale by the year 2018 according to Robert Langer. The institute’s Chip Foundation and Bill Gates’ foundation have been working on the birth control chip for past three years.
The chip’s size is 20mm by 20mm by 7mm. The reservoirs of hormones would be stored on a microchip of 1.5cm. The chip’s data would always be encrypted so that others (cybercriminals or hackers) cannot access the information contained in the chip or misuse/alter or destroy it.
[...]
The release of hormones will be done by melting a part of solid hormonal stock using a small electric shock which won’t be noticed by humans.
[...]
The safety tests would begin by the end of year 2015 and Robert Langer is confident that the chips will hit market sometime in 2018. "
http://www.globalresearch.ca/bill-gates-temporary-sterilization-microchip-in-beta-female-testing-by-end-of-year/5460181
http://www.globalresearch.ca/bill-gates-temporary-sterilization-microchip-in-beta-female-testing-by-end-of-year/5460181
24 November 2016 06:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Electrospinning uses an electric field to catapult a charged fluid jet through air to create very fine, nanometer-scale fibers. The fibers can be manipulated to control the material’s solubility, strength and even geometry. Fibers may be even better at delivering medicine than existing technologies such as gels, tablets or pills.
Nano-microchips invisible to the naked eye are a reality that are already being hosted in wide-range of applications.
No high temperatures are involved, so the method is suitable for heat-sensitive molecules. The fabric can also incorporate large molecules, such as proteins and antibodies, that are hard to deliver through other methods.
The final material is a stretchy fabric. “This method allows controlled release of multiple compounds,” said coauthor Cameron Ball. “We were able to tune the fibers to have different release properties.”
One of the fabrics they made dissolves within minutes, potentially offering users immediate, discrete protection against unwanted pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases"
http://preventdisease.com/news/12/120712_Bill-Gates-Awards-Researchers-Development-Electrically-Spun-Cloth-Deliver-Contraceptive-HIV-Drugs.shtml
Nano-microchips invisible to the naked eye are a reality that are already being hosted in wide-range of applications.
No high temperatures are involved, so the method is suitable for heat-sensitive molecules. The fabric can also incorporate large molecules, such as proteins and antibodies, that are hard to deliver through other methods.
The final material is a stretchy fabric. “This method allows controlled release of multiple compounds,” said coauthor Cameron Ball. “We were able to tune the fibers to have different release properties.”
One of the fabrics they made dissolves within minutes, potentially offering users immediate, discrete protection against unwanted pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases"
http://preventdisease.com/news/12/120712_Bill-Gates-Awards-Researchers-Development-Electrically-Spun-Cloth-Deliver-Contraceptive-HIV-Drugs.shtml
http://preventdisease.com/news/12/120712_Bill-Gates-Awards-Researchers-Development-Electrically-Spun-Cloth-Deliver-Contraceptive-HIV-Drugs.shtml
24 November 2016 06:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"A toxin derived from the substance bees insert into their victims when they sting is the agent that will destroy the sperm and HIV. The toxin, called melittin, comprises more than half of the dry weight of the venom of the honeybee Apis mellifera.
The nanoparticles will carry a synthetic version of the toxin melittin to the targets.
"Cells readily take in melittin," Wickline says. "But once it gets in, it pokes holes in cell membranes destroy the cells.""
http://www.nanowerk.com/news/newsid=18931.php
The nanoparticles will carry a synthetic version of the toxin melittin to the targets.
"Cells readily take in melittin," Wickline says. "But once it gets in, it pokes holes in cell membranes destroy the cells.""
http://www.nanowerk.com/news/newsid=18931.php
http://www.nanowerk.com/news/newsid=18931.php
24 November 2016 06:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või oli see heli vihk,
"We found that 3 MHz ultrasound delivered with 2.2 Watt per square cm power for fifteen minutes was necessary to deplete spermatocytes and spermatids from the testis and that this treatment significantly reduced epididymal sperm reserves."
"Funding
This research was supported by a grant from the Parsemus Foundation and by a Grand Challenges Explorations Grant from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation "
Mulle gates meeldib
https://rbej.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1477-7827-10-7
"We found that 3 MHz ultrasound delivered with 2.2 Watt per square cm power for fifteen minutes was necessary to deplete spermatocytes and spermatids from the testis and that this treatment significantly reduced epididymal sperm reserves."
"Funding
This research was supported by a grant from the Parsemus Foundation and by a Grand Challenges Explorations Grant from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation "
Mulle gates meeldib
https://rbej.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1477-7827-10-7
24 November 2016 06:32
Margus Meigo commented on Vallo Meigo's post.
Kui just Taevas appi eip tule...
muidu vanas stiilis tiriks vee peale kuid praeguses sõjas on juba liiga kvandi ja tehnoloogilise maagia peale nii suurelt mindud, et Taevale endale, ohtlikuks võib sõda usaldada, sest igaks juhuks aktiviseeriksid kaotajad hirmuga ka mida iganes neil on, igaks juhuks.. ja seda pole vaja
Bill Gatesil oli ammu fFondil jutud nano robotitst mida saab ohku poistada ja mis inimkehasse minnes need impodeks muudab, eks nad midagi taolist lahti lase lopuks kui vaja,
Üldse neid lugusi ma enam ei leidnud, kuid need lood nende enda seotud lehtedel olid.. et selline tehnoloogia neil pidavat olema aretatud seoses aafrika testidega, mingisugune kaug teel lastav valguskiir oli ka neil mis munadele suunates need kasutuks tegi, kuid see pole suures plaanis kasutatav.
www.gatesfoundation.org/What-We-Do/Global-Development/Family-Planning
muidu vanas stiilis tiriks vee peale kuid praeguses sõjas on juba liiga kvandi ja tehnoloogilise maagia peale nii suurelt mindud, et Taevale endale, ohtlikuks võib sõda usaldada, sest igaks juhuks aktiviseeriksid kaotajad hirmuga ka mida iganes neil on, igaks juhuks.. ja seda pole vaja
Bill Gatesil oli ammu fFondil jutud nano robotitst mida saab ohku poistada ja mis inimkehasse minnes need impodeks muudab, eks nad midagi taolist lahti lase lopuks kui vaja,
Üldse neid lugusi ma enam ei leidnud, kuid need lood nende enda seotud lehtedel olid.. et selline tehnoloogia neil pidavat olema aretatud seoses aafrika testidega, mingisugune kaug teel lastav valguskiir oli ka neil mis munadele suunates need kasutuks tegi, kuid see pole suures plaanis kasutatav.
www.gatesfoundation.org/What-We-Do/Global-Development/Family-Planning
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/What-We-Do/Global-Development/Family-Planning
24 November 2016 06:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
me2
24 November 2016 05:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in god we trust all others..
24 November 2016 04:46
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
c'moon, god takes part even on america fiance..
24 November 2016 04:45
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
in the end can become desert, and will be peace then as well,
most deserts looks peaceful
most deserts looks peaceful
24 November 2016 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
eating proper food should also help to prevent HIV according to Dr Sebi
24 November 2016 04:37
Margus Meigo replied to Lee Salinas's comment.
Group: Proud To Be A Democrat
have some other question extra when calling at least, then can ask something other important same time24 November 2016 01:30
Margus Meigo replied to Lee Salinas's comment.
Group: Proud To Be A Democrat
no need to spam a poor people, let one call and post reply here,
what silly fashion is that, can you imagine if tens of people call and ask things that ... that is waste of resources and bothering people, and they will quit soon the public phones if people keep doing it24 November 2016 01:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mis mehest arvad+
23 November 2016 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202222194993891&set=a.10201072373409070.1073741827.1760373422&type=3&theater
23 November 2016 17:36
Margus Meigo replied to Andy Suparta S's comment.
Group: ENTP
real Communist one can not kill, as it is spiritual materialized ilness and original source is Roman empire dark forces, that Use capitalism and liberalism to keep it alive and in us many ways23 November 2016 16:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: ENTP
Vanajumalasõnul, Insh'Allah, kohtumiseni !23 November 2016 16:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: ENTP
they was testing if man is pure in mind,
and if not, then they ...
but homo patriarchy try to turn the killing of Näkks and enslaving the women, in to a sport and national pride under communist
Metsatöll küü (but even the video makers lost)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC3Q9q4cRZAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC3Q9q4cRZA
23 November 2016 16:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: ENTP
Actually the Wood Women, is more expressed as Water spirit women,
But these kind of waters are between the woods, not qa ocean , so i call wood womens, as they like sisters a bit, for humans
Up to resenttimes, Earth Estonians mated with warious kind's of Nakks a lot, ... they can look like a Godesses for normal natives for their spowers, plaifulness and beauty ... bu for us who is old minded, they are "our own girls"
who to besides fear have to respect also, but most of all love
www.visitestonia.com/en/nakk23 November 2016 16:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: ENTP
Estonia short code: Est, (As establishing.. )
Fun fact: Anu-nakki is normal Estonia spirit wood (Anu Näkk'i ) womens send to initiate for speeding up evolution in incas with a plan to beat up front in time the A.I in future, to breed Matriarchy minded people enought to keep Carbon based life, the God original life unrobotized and throught all times and world versions, spread out with a knowledge about Adam and Eve
Anu is normal Finno-Ugry, Estonian women name, Really common one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Näkkihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Näkki
23 November 2016 16:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: ENTP
Estonia - EES-t-i (front and from all others)
So seems to me after traveling in places where God allowed us23 November 2016 16:00
Margus Meigo commented on Fabian Hugo Di Mercurio's post.
Group: ENTP
We founded the world with a God n Nature after us was given birth.23 November 2016 15:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Raimond Hull Bibikov
22 November 2016 06:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// (REALLY dangerous but not sure if bad for you!) but most of the stuff is still as it is.. in beginning it is written like this:
"Cigarette smoking is a major acrylamide source. It has been shown in one study to cause a three-fold greater increase in blood acrylamide levels than any dietary factor."
"Acrylamide is classified as an extremely hazardous substance in the United States as defined in Section 302 of the U.S. Emergency Planning and Community Right-to-Know Act (42 U.S.C. 11002), and is subject to strict reporting requirements by facilities which produce, store, or use it in significant quantities"
( It is a white odorless crystalline solid, soluble in water, ethanol, ether, and chloroform. Acrylamide decomposes in the presence of acids, bases, oxidizing agents, iron, and iron salts.)
Acrylamide is also a skin irritant and may be a tumor initiator in the skin, potentially increasing risk for skin cancer.
Vb acidi foods isegi..
ja sama artikli lopus:
"Acrylamide is considered a potential occupational carcinogen by U.S. government agencies and classified as a Group 2A carcinogen by the IARC. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration and the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health have set dermal occupational exposure limits at 0.03 mg/m3 over an eight-hour workday "
kuni järsku sinnamaan:
"As of 2014 it is still not clear whether dietary acrylamide consumption affects people's risk of developing cancer. Experimental results that are based on feeding acrylamide to animals might not be applicable to humans.
"Acrylamide was discovered in foods in April 2002 by Eritrean scientist Eden Tareke in Sweden when she found the chemical in starchy foods, such as potato chips (potato crisps), French fries (chips), and bread that had been heated higher than 120 °C
Later studies have found acrylamide in black olives, prunes, dried pears, and coffee
et siis.. see point:
"Although acrylamide has known toxic effects on the nervous system and on fertility, a June 2002 report by the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations and the World Health Organization concluded the intake level required to observe neuropathy (0.5 mg/kg body weight/day) was 500 times higher than the average dietary intake of acrylamide (1 μg/kg body weight/day). For effects on fertility, the level is 2,000 times higher than the average intake. From this, they concluded acrylamide levels in food were safe in terms of neuropathy, but raised concerns over human carcinogenicity based on known carcinogenicity in laboratory animals
ja nagu ikka:
"According to the American Cancer Society it is not clear, as of 2016, whether acrylamide consumption increases people's risk of developing cancer
Cigarette smoking is a major acrylamide source.[39] It has been shown in one study to cause a three-fold greater increase in blood acrylamide levels than any dietary factor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylamide#Acrylamide_toxicity_from_food_exposure
"Cigarette smoking is a major acrylamide source. It has been shown in one study to cause a three-fold greater increase in blood acrylamide levels than any dietary factor."
"Acrylamide is classified as an extremely hazardous substance in the United States as defined in Section 302 of the U.S. Emergency Planning and Community Right-to-Know Act (42 U.S.C. 11002), and is subject to strict reporting requirements by facilities which produce, store, or use it in significant quantities"
( It is a white odorless crystalline solid, soluble in water, ethanol, ether, and chloroform. Acrylamide decomposes in the presence of acids, bases, oxidizing agents, iron, and iron salts.)
Acrylamide is also a skin irritant and may be a tumor initiator in the skin, potentially increasing risk for skin cancer.
Vb acidi foods isegi..
ja sama artikli lopus:
"Acrylamide is considered a potential occupational carcinogen by U.S. government agencies and classified as a Group 2A carcinogen by the IARC. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration and the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health have set dermal occupational exposure limits at 0.03 mg/m3 over an eight-hour workday "
kuni järsku sinnamaan:
"As of 2014 it is still not clear whether dietary acrylamide consumption affects people's risk of developing cancer. Experimental results that are based on feeding acrylamide to animals might not be applicable to humans.
"Acrylamide was discovered in foods in April 2002 by Eritrean scientist Eden Tareke in Sweden when she found the chemical in starchy foods, such as potato chips (potato crisps), French fries (chips), and bread that had been heated higher than 120 °C
Later studies have found acrylamide in black olives, prunes, dried pears, and coffee
et siis.. see point:
"Although acrylamide has known toxic effects on the nervous system and on fertility, a June 2002 report by the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations and the World Health Organization concluded the intake level required to observe neuropathy (0.5 mg/kg body weight/day) was 500 times higher than the average dietary intake of acrylamide (1 μg/kg body weight/day). For effects on fertility, the level is 2,000 times higher than the average intake. From this, they concluded acrylamide levels in food were safe in terms of neuropathy, but raised concerns over human carcinogenicity based on known carcinogenicity in laboratory animals
ja nagu ikka:
"According to the American Cancer Society it is not clear, as of 2016, whether acrylamide consumption increases people's risk of developing cancer
Cigarette smoking is a major acrylamide source.[39] It has been shown in one study to cause a three-fold greater increase in blood acrylamide levels than any dietary factor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylamide#Acrylamide_toxicity_from_food_exposure
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylamide#Acrylamide_toxicity_from_food_exposure
22 November 2016 06:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et siis potensiaalile keskenduda
Tärklis
"Pure starch is a white, tasteless and odorless powder that is insoluble in cold water or alcohol."
"Digestive enzymes have problems digesting crystalline structures. Raw starch will digest poorly in the duodenum and small intestine, while bacterial degradation will take place mainly in the colon. When starch is cooked, the digestibility is increased.
Starch gelatinization during cake baking can be impaired by sugar competing for water, preventing gelatinization and improving texture."
"It is the most common carbohydrate in human diets and is contained in large amounts in staple foods such as potatoes, wheat, maize (corn), rice, and cassava."
"In industry, starch is converted into sugars, for example by malting, and fermented to produce ethanol in the manufacture of beer, whisky and biofuel."
"The biggest industrial non-food use of starch is as an adhesive in the papermaking process. Starch can be applied to parts of some garments before ironing, to stiffen them." (still same thing, what we eat)
Many other starchy foods are grown, some only in specific climates, including acorns, arrowroot, arracacha, bananas, barley, breadfruit, buckwheat, canna, colacasia, katakuri, kudzu, malanga, millet, oats, oca, polynesian arrowroot, sago, sorghum, sweet potatoes, rye, taro, chestnuts, water chestnuts and yams, and many kinds of beans, such as favas, lentils, mung beans, peas, and chickpeas.
Widely used prepared foods containing starch are bread, pancakes, cereals, noodles, pasta, porridge and tortilla.
As an additive for food processing, food starches are typically used as thickeners and stabilizers in foods such as puddings, custards, soups, sauces, gravies, pie fillings, and salad dressings, and to make noodles and pastas. Function as thickeners, extenders, emulsion stabilizers and are exceptional binders in processed meats.
"Resistant starch is starch that escapes digestion in the small intestine of healthy individuals. High amylose starch from corn has a higher gelatinization temperature than other types of starch and retains its resistant starch content through baking, mild extrusion and other food processing techniques. It is used as an insoluble dietary fiber in processed foods such as bread, pasta, cookies, crackers, pretzels and other low moisture foods"
Starch molecules arrange themselves in the plant in semi-crystalline granules. Each plant species has a unique starch granular size: rice starch is relatively small (about 2μm) while potato starches have larger granules (up to 100μm).
In addition to starchy plants consumed directly, 66 million tonnes of starch were being produced per year world-wide by 2008. In the EU this was around 8.5 million tonnes, with around 40% being used for industrial applications and 60% for food uses,[10] most of the latter as glucose syrups
The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has set the legal limit (Permissible exposure limit) for starch exposure in the workplace as 15 mg/m3 total exposure and 5 mg/m3 respiratory exposure over an 8-hour workday. The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) has set a Recommended exposure limit (REL) of 10 mg/m3 total exposure and 5 mg/m3 respiratory exposure over an 8-hour workday (work work.. work..)
The word "starch" is from a Germanic root with the meanings "strong, stiff, strengthen, stiffen".[4] Modern German Stärke (starch) is related.
"Amylum" for starch is from the Greek αμυλον, "amylon" which means "not ground at a mill".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starch
Tärklis
"Pure starch is a white, tasteless and odorless powder that is insoluble in cold water or alcohol."
"Digestive enzymes have problems digesting crystalline structures. Raw starch will digest poorly in the duodenum and small intestine, while bacterial degradation will take place mainly in the colon. When starch is cooked, the digestibility is increased.
Starch gelatinization during cake baking can be impaired by sugar competing for water, preventing gelatinization and improving texture."
"It is the most common carbohydrate in human diets and is contained in large amounts in staple foods such as potatoes, wheat, maize (corn), rice, and cassava."
"In industry, starch is converted into sugars, for example by malting, and fermented to produce ethanol in the manufacture of beer, whisky and biofuel."
"The biggest industrial non-food use of starch is as an adhesive in the papermaking process. Starch can be applied to parts of some garments before ironing, to stiffen them." (still same thing, what we eat)
Many other starchy foods are grown, some only in specific climates, including acorns, arrowroot, arracacha, bananas, barley, breadfruit, buckwheat, canna, colacasia, katakuri, kudzu, malanga, millet, oats, oca, polynesian arrowroot, sago, sorghum, sweet potatoes, rye, taro, chestnuts, water chestnuts and yams, and many kinds of beans, such as favas, lentils, mung beans, peas, and chickpeas.
Widely used prepared foods containing starch are bread, pancakes, cereals, noodles, pasta, porridge and tortilla.
As an additive for food processing, food starches are typically used as thickeners and stabilizers in foods such as puddings, custards, soups, sauces, gravies, pie fillings, and salad dressings, and to make noodles and pastas. Function as thickeners, extenders, emulsion stabilizers and are exceptional binders in processed meats.
"Resistant starch is starch that escapes digestion in the small intestine of healthy individuals. High amylose starch from corn has a higher gelatinization temperature than other types of starch and retains its resistant starch content through baking, mild extrusion and other food processing techniques. It is used as an insoluble dietary fiber in processed foods such as bread, pasta, cookies, crackers, pretzels and other low moisture foods"
Starch molecules arrange themselves in the plant in semi-crystalline granules. Each plant species has a unique starch granular size: rice starch is relatively small (about 2μm) while potato starches have larger granules (up to 100μm).
In addition to starchy plants consumed directly, 66 million tonnes of starch were being produced per year world-wide by 2008. In the EU this was around 8.5 million tonnes, with around 40% being used for industrial applications and 60% for food uses,[10] most of the latter as glucose syrups
The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has set the legal limit (Permissible exposure limit) for starch exposure in the workplace as 15 mg/m3 total exposure and 5 mg/m3 respiratory exposure over an 8-hour workday. The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) has set a Recommended exposure limit (REL) of 10 mg/m3 total exposure and 5 mg/m3 respiratory exposure over an 8-hour workday (work work.. work..)
The word "starch" is from a Germanic root with the meanings "strong, stiff, strengthen, stiffen".[4] Modern German Stärke (starch) is related.
"Amylum" for starch is from the Greek αμυλον, "amylon" which means "not ground at a mill".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starch
22 November 2016 06:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja väike arrogantsus on andeksandev, hea, et lipsu kaela pannes isegi sinnamaale jõudis,
ja ega kõigi naitve maade iniemste saladusi ja reaalsusi ei pidanutki teadma jõudma..
kuid vajalikku materiali temaga seotud ikka palju, olulisusena võttes, et kelle rägituna veel rohkem need sonad kohale jõuaks eriti neisse kanalitesse kus vaja
ja ega kõigi naitve maade iniemste saladusi ja reaalsusi ei pidanutki teadma jõudma..
kuid vajalikku materiali temaga seotud ikka palju, olulisusena võttes, et kelle rägituna veel rohkem need sonad kohale jõuaks eriti neisse kanalitesse kus vaja
22 November 2016 06:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Osadele kultuuridele need maneerid on suts üle käivad ja vastuvõetamatud, kuid olulisem on mitmes osas mida mehel öelda on, kui asjad nii on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzVqEfXJHVc
Muidugi tema ise ei ravinud midagi, need on teised kes raivad.. kuid tema tegevus inimesi taimedega õigele teele suunata ja sõnadega õigesti käituma panna, aitas kindlasti ravida
st, et taimed ravisid, looja
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzVqEfXJHVc
Muidugi tema ise ei ravinud midagi, need on teised kes raivad.. kuid tema tegevus inimesi taimedega õigele teele suunata ja sõnadega õigesti käituma panna, aitas kindlasti ravida
st, et taimed ravisid, looja
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzVqEfXJHVc
22 November 2016 06:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
toidu, seksi ja seente teema on palju huvitavam
22 November 2016 06:17
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
aah see raha teema jälle :D
22 November 2016 06:17
Margus Meigo commented on Maarja Hiiekivi's post.
Ohoo : )
22 November 2016 06:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Comment:
""Margie V Davis · School Of Hard KnoX
PATHETIC PROPAGANDA from all of you...shamefull indeed"
"He's not dead. Stupid headlines like this is what MSM uses to discredit the alternative media. Stop it !!"
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/going-viral-unconfirmed-rumors-assange-dead-wikileaks-posts-deadmans-keys/
""Margie V Davis · School Of Hard KnoX
PATHETIC PROPAGANDA from all of you...shamefull indeed"
"He's not dead. Stupid headlines like this is what MSM uses to discredit the alternative media. Stop it !!"
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/going-viral-unconfirmed-rumors-assange-dead-wikileaks-posts-deadmans-keys/
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/going-viral-unconfirmed-rumors-assange-dead-wikileaks-posts-deadmans-keys/
21 November 2016 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"interesting note from ananymous..."
"The Interwebz is obviously now abuzz with rumors and theories. There is no word or confirmation from Assange or Wikileaks.
There is an interesting note from Anonymous.
“I’m a low level intelligence officer, not CIA. The tweets are SHA256 hashes, not keys. They signify that the files to come are real.
Read it here first. Ecuador has caved to pressure from Clinton & Co. Assange is being extradited. The situation is very fluid and he has threatened to kill himself if removed from the embassy.
The file hash is directed at Sec. Kerry as a direct threat.
No, I don’t have any proof I can share; these are diplo cables I’m getting form this. But Assange will likely be either imprisoned or dead within 12 hours.
If they get me for sharing this, at least I died a patriot.”
No confirmation either way on this but it’s definitely the case something strange is happening. Or at the very least, some big information is coming via Wikileaks in the very near future."
https://forum.officer.com/forum/public-forums/general-law-enforcement-topics/6394540-wikileaks-deadman-keys
"The Interwebz is obviously now abuzz with rumors and theories. There is no word or confirmation from Assange or Wikileaks.
There is an interesting note from Anonymous.
“I’m a low level intelligence officer, not CIA. The tweets are SHA256 hashes, not keys. They signify that the files to come are real.
Read it here first. Ecuador has caved to pressure from Clinton & Co. Assange is being extradited. The situation is very fluid and he has threatened to kill himself if removed from the embassy.
The file hash is directed at Sec. Kerry as a direct threat.
No, I don’t have any proof I can share; these are diplo cables I’m getting form this. But Assange will likely be either imprisoned or dead within 12 hours.
If they get me for sharing this, at least I died a patriot.”
No confirmation either way on this but it’s definitely the case something strange is happening. Or at the very least, some big information is coming via Wikileaks in the very near future."
https://forum.officer.com/forum/public-forums/general-law-enforcement-topics/6394540-wikileaks-deadman-keys
https://forum.officer.com/forum/public-forums/general-law-enforcement-topics/6394540-wikileaks-deadman-keys
21 November 2016 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's post.
But yea, normal talks about it:
https://forum.officer.com/forum/public-forums/general-law-enforcement-topics/6394540-wikileaks-deadman-keys
https://forum.officer.com/forum/public-forums/general-law-enforcement-topics/6394540-wikileaks-deadman-keys
https://forum.officer.com/forum/public-forums/general-law-enforcement-topics/6394540-wikileaks-deadman-keys
21 November 2016 01:36
Margus Meigo commented on Matthew Thompson's post.
Group: Americans for President Trump (Original)
God thanks Trump will take us forward,
right ?21 November 2016 01:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
..but as tourist.
21 November 2016 01:19
Margus Meigo commented on Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's photo.
.:.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1035454043341&set=a.1022531160277.2004191.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1035454043341&set=a.1022531160277.2004191.1135161043&type=3&theater
21 November 2016 01:18
Margus Meigo commented on Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's photo.
You know old times they did not allow me to post pictures, even remotelly likethat in fcebook... (look my oldest profile pic, related to bababa...)
21 November 2016 01:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
... sad a bit to much..
"..Oh no, I've said too much
I set it up
Consider this
The hint of the century
Consider this
The slip that brought me
To my knees failed
What if all these fantasies
Come flailing around
Now I've said too much..."
"..Oh no, I've said too much
I set it up
Consider this
The hint of the century
Consider this
The slip that brought me
To my knees failed
What if all these fantasies
Come flailing around
Now I've said too much..."
21 November 2016 01:13
Margus Meigo commented on Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's photo.
yeah, just a drop of bilogical wepanory in your jard that can be send with a one bird or with a child holding a egg.. and all you behind guns in hundreds of thousands are gone fast
these are just simplewartoys.... (look holy montain, war toys part )
these are just simplewartoys.... (look holy montain, war toys part )
21 November 2016 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sucking enemy cock is part of plan they willing to degrade them self, for human species in long plan, to save us, the good ones still surviving
you know womens besides earth caracter hae ALL one big common agenda and soul, working for God
you know womens besides earth caracter hae ALL one big common agenda and soul, working for God
21 November 2016 01:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
there was NOTHING huring in her emails to her, compared to this, what benafits her and the extra terestial researchers.. prooving, she is and was in contact with these kinds..
they have been try all kind of black magic against her health and family... well.. lets hope her man even realize in full scale what She was going to do.. but most likelly She did not release even full information to him, as he might be in clubs she know he can not talk about to her..
they have been try all kind of black magic against her health and family... well.. lets hope her man even realize in full scale what She was going to do.. but most likelly She did not release even full information to him, as he might be in clubs she know he can not talk about to her..
21 November 2016 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's photo.
kind of sad still, that people did not dare to choose way more dangerous option Hillary.. and instead choose safe tie... another tie..
instead of the power women who was able to smuggle herself between powers and dark forces unimaginable to use them to wipe out ALL political elites who come on her way, of turning women back in to honor..
but i guess.. people was not ready to so large revolution.. and perhpaps it was taken all powers to action, to stop her,
as they know..she was a bit mental...
as she her self, really gladly hlped to release her emails, in a way they was accessable.. as it was her security key..
instead of the power women who was able to smuggle herself between powers and dark forces unimaginable to use them to wipe out ALL political elites who come on her way, of turning women back in to honor..
but i guess.. people was not ready to so large revolution.. and perhpaps it was taken all powers to action, to stop her,
as they know..she was a bit mental...
as she her self, really gladly hlped to release her emails, in a way they was accessable.. as it was her security key..
21 November 2016 01:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i hope i was able to be for help
21 November 2016 01:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(when talking about chrsitianty, then must is OLD testament, new testament to dangerous... it gets people to high up and to much seperated from ground world's ... after all.. the END of old testament, last sentence, sayis it all.. to know it there has been in here real saver jet or not..)
21 November 2016 01:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as i told You flat or round thing, he might not be able to answer, if he knows deeper things,
but as he wars a tie, as snowdan.. then there is little hope that with a short hair, shaved face, vearing tie.. that this kind of people,
who play game with a people files instead of releasing them straight up...
but as he wars a tie, as snowdan.. then there is little hope that with a short hair, shaved face, vearing tie.. that this kind of people,
who play game with a people files instead of releasing them straight up...
21 November 2016 01:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
You are deep in to it, make sure to integrate some earth grounding philosophy or a loving wife,
or you head WILL be driven "crazy" and you lost all the work You have done so far,
Matriarchy'c Shaman infused Christianty WITH pro farming/wooden house views does help,
to turn vegetarian will lift you up from ground again at first, but at same time protects you from many different kind of dream and physical hackings,
and eating meat can send away from You a spirits/programs that " Search & Protect " on autopilot..
But yea, grounding , on something, that you KNOW to pray to, in right direction is extreme important,
unless you want to be like most smart ones who are high up but in the end they are tie around their neck, in hospital, or alone alienated from a friends and family
or you head WILL be driven "crazy" and you lost all the work You have done so far,
Matriarchy'c Shaman infused Christianty WITH pro farming/wooden house views does help,
to turn vegetarian will lift you up from ground again at first, but at same time protects you from many different kind of dream and physical hackings,
and eating meat can send away from You a spirits/programs that " Search & Protect " on autopilot..
But yea, grounding , on something, that you KNOW to pray to, in right direction is extreme important,
unless you want to be like most smart ones who are high up but in the end they are tie around their neck, in hospital, or alone alienated from a friends and family
21 November 2016 01:01
Margus Meigo commented on Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's post.
really silly way to handlethings,
really silly and anty freedom, anti openes way really..
really silly and anty freedom, anti openes way really..
21 November 2016 00:46
Margus Meigo commented on Matthew Thompson's post.
Group: Americans for President Trump (Original)
Explain please, i am to white to understand this race shit19 November 2016 20:14
Margus Meigo commented on Loraina Akasha's post.
Group: Vegans & Vegetarians Vs Meat Eaters Open Debate UNCENSORED !!
yeah, it is kind of sick how sick can humans become and not even realize it when a dead body is front of their face...
this happens when person is possessed... turns to another being.. that sees other tings as not alive.. but as a food only.. . even if that is not a food bot corpse..
The reason why world war 2 was against Germany, besides others is also their strong protection for nature and animals
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater19 November 2016 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on Febin Mathews's post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
i just realize, tat A-men is made of " a men" like "a man"..19 November 2016 20:10
Margus Meigo commented on Fabian Hugo Di Mercurio's post.
Group: ENTP
Yes, the Capitalism is the root of communism,
I mean communist is big daddy for a capitalism
... up to now, people are so confused as the plan of communist is, to keep people confused, as they would be 2 opposite systems, but in reality, consumer capitalism is just one tools communism using, and liberalism is their 21 century expression for it and methods19 November 2016 20:08
Margus Meigo commented on Stefano Spalti's post.
Group: Anarcho-Debatism
and when they discover, that capitalism is same power as communism on hig goals, on main aims, .. that are from Greek-Roman.. then the face is even more..19 November 2016 20:03
Margus Meigo commented on Assar Järvekülg's post.
Group: Vasakpoolne liikumine
Ma ei mõista mis moodi see asi sedasi juhtus, et ikkagi keskerakond võimul on19 November 2016 19:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
same time at europe.. DolceWelle (video is not graphic) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXgUEiwYuKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXgUEiwYuKU
19 November 2016 05:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vot on ikka eco mahe pardid:
moelda vaid. kuskil keegi ei jää ringi jooksma..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx3cfoPjyR4
moelda vaid. kuskil keegi ei jää ringi jooksma..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx3cfoPjyR4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx3cfoPjyR4
19 November 2016 05:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sama siin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VNzcRYw1JE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VNzcRYw1JE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VNzcRYw1JE
19 November 2016 04:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aa siin farmer ise viib neid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4ml1QRGPEg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4ml1QRGPEg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4ml1QRGPEg
19 November 2016 04:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vanemat videot ka:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6KKtZriUFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6KKtZriUFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6KKtZriUFs
19 November 2016 04:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
What they speak in video one and 2 ?
19 November 2016 04:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
humans are so individualistic, for us sounds strange perhaps how they all stay togheder.
19 November 2016 04:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Here they choose crossing road by chance perhaps but...........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2BuGaUwIos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2BuGaUwIos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2BuGaUwIos
19 November 2016 04:51
Margus Meigo commented on BBC News's link.
This dude wears a tie, what kind of Islam culture builder can he be +
19 November 2016 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Paap's post.
Tere - Tere : )
18 November 2016 18:41
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
clever trick also in beginning, (shame on me..)
18 November 2016 08:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and this shame, they managed to make, in a old country, with strong self conscious nation ... amazing
18 November 2016 07:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.. about extra comment on mother prank,
related to soviet shame that was injected in to women
so deep, that mothers was so ashamed about moonCleaning cycle, that they newer talk about it to their daughters, even on high position women's.. so some girls find that out in front of the class or some other scary damaging situations... and sex was even not existing at all.. same time when it was happening in most inappropriate ways a lot...
related to soviet shame that was injected in to women
so deep, that mothers was so ashamed about moonCleaning cycle, that they newer talk about it to their daughters, even on high position women's.. so some girls find that out in front of the class or some other scary damaging situations... and sex was even not existing at all.. same time when it was happening in most inappropriate ways a lot...
18 November 2016 07:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and adults should organize network to talk needed wisdom between it all.. to save the race
18 November 2016 07:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but even more scary is the comments... on what level the youth talks.. these channels should be under monitoring for study of youth mental developments and ..
18 November 2016 07:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and even to mother .. boor mother..
but then again.. as i told to her as well in purpose.. it does sound, like british this kind of parenting and soviet order parenting and take on life is really similar.. shokingly same, where also was not shared wit a kind nothing intimate with a mother... who should be maybe first level of trust.. or maybe.. hmm.. how is it really , the MOST natural way? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdJJHFTPKI
but then again.. as i told to her as well in purpose.. it does sound, like british this kind of parenting and soviet order parenting and take on life is really similar.. shokingly same, where also was not shared wit a kind nothing intimate with a mother... who should be maybe first level of trust.. or maybe.. hmm.. how is it really , the MOST natural way? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdJJHFTPKI
18 November 2016 07:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey these teenagers make some really hardcore crazy things,
dangerous
but the huring in a heart she got for missing same kind of security from Her crush, was punishment enought.. but .. should so dangerous things that can break relations and friendships .. to be regulated.. helped.. guided.. as it is taken to lightly..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SomGC1uEFfw
dangerous
but the huring in a heart she got for missing same kind of security from Her crush, was punishment enought.. but .. should so dangerous things that can break relations and friendships .. to be regulated.. helped.. guided.. as it is taken to lightly..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SomGC1uEFfw
18 November 2016 07:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 different teenage world collided...
senire good girl, with manners world vs post mtv harsh world know it all girl ,
senire good girl, with manners world vs post mtv harsh world know it all girl ,
18 November 2016 07:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey dislikes come from girls like that, on her own age i guess, or younger even:
maxie fuqua1 week ago (edited)
Oh my fucking god...
could this bitch be ANY more pretentious?
seriously. she's like a walking stereotype. I stopped watching at 3:05 because I just couldn't take anymore.
let's go over the things that I actually saw.
1. his posture and "how he carries himself".
this is complete bullshit. there are easily 20 or 30 things most people would notice before they get anywhere near posture.
the first thing most women notice is race, then height, then muscle build (and of course weight), then clothes, then facial features... I could go on, but you get the point.
2. "we look for emotion"
yeagh because all the women constantly fawning over rappers are totally into the crooked "I'm a gangsta" skowl they always have.
whether or not your smiling is completely irrelevant. most women have this thing for "bad boys" and have you ever seen a "bad boy" smile? seriously. perfect example is Leonardo decaprio. that dude almost never smiles. but women lose there shit over him because the emotionless expression males him look "mysterious".
and yet on men that are just slightly less attractive that same emotionless expression is "creepy".
3. laugh.
because everyone knows women love men that laugh at there own jokes.
no. just no.
women like to laugh. they like guys that can make them laugh. (Side note, have you ever noticed that most of the guys that can make them laugh happen to be rediculously good looking? just a thought)
women couldn't give a fuck less if you laugh or not.
4. shoes.
I don't even know what to say to this bullshit.
"you can tell a lot about there personality by there shoes".
again. don't even know the words to respond to such idiocy.
ladies. if you think you can infer ANYTHING about a guys personality by the shoes there wearing YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON! shoes mean nothing.
wearing Jordans doesn't make you anymore a basketball player than wearing chuck Taylors makes you a skater.
stop looking at guys shoes. it's pointless. and your probly discounting a lot of good guys because of it.
I know a lot of people reading this comment are going to be like "you must be a real loser" or "ur just made cuz u can't get laid." Or whatever stupid shit kids are assuming these days.
I've had my fair share if relationships and not a single one of them has ever been effected by any of the bullshit in this video. the only things that actually matter are.
1. be good looking.
2. smell like a civilized human being.
3. dress like your not homeless.
4. don't be a dick. (at first.)
And honestly if your attractive enough the last 3 don't matter at all. you could be a homeless child murderer that smells like he just finished swimming laps in an open sewer and you'd still have to beat the chick's off with a stick if your hot enough.
as for us average looking guys, you basically just gotta hope there isn't a more attractive guy in her field of view
maxie fuqua1 week ago (edited)
Oh my fucking god...
could this bitch be ANY more pretentious?
seriously. she's like a walking stereotype. I stopped watching at 3:05 because I just couldn't take anymore.
let's go over the things that I actually saw.
1. his posture and "how he carries himself".
this is complete bullshit. there are easily 20 or 30 things most people would notice before they get anywhere near posture.
the first thing most women notice is race, then height, then muscle build (and of course weight), then clothes, then facial features... I could go on, but you get the point.
2. "we look for emotion"
yeagh because all the women constantly fawning over rappers are totally into the crooked "I'm a gangsta" skowl they always have.
whether or not your smiling is completely irrelevant. most women have this thing for "bad boys" and have you ever seen a "bad boy" smile? seriously. perfect example is Leonardo decaprio. that dude almost never smiles. but women lose there shit over him because the emotionless expression males him look "mysterious".
and yet on men that are just slightly less attractive that same emotionless expression is "creepy".
3. laugh.
because everyone knows women love men that laugh at there own jokes.
no. just no.
women like to laugh. they like guys that can make them laugh. (Side note, have you ever noticed that most of the guys that can make them laugh happen to be rediculously good looking? just a thought)
women couldn't give a fuck less if you laugh or not.
4. shoes.
I don't even know what to say to this bullshit.
"you can tell a lot about there personality by there shoes".
again. don't even know the words to respond to such idiocy.
ladies. if you think you can infer ANYTHING about a guys personality by the shoes there wearing YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON! shoes mean nothing.
wearing Jordans doesn't make you anymore a basketball player than wearing chuck Taylors makes you a skater.
stop looking at guys shoes. it's pointless. and your probly discounting a lot of good guys because of it.
I know a lot of people reading this comment are going to be like "you must be a real loser" or "ur just made cuz u can't get laid." Or whatever stupid shit kids are assuming these days.
I've had my fair share if relationships and not a single one of them has ever been effected by any of the bullshit in this video. the only things that actually matter are.
1. be good looking.
2. smell like a civilized human being.
3. dress like your not homeless.
4. don't be a dick. (at first.)
And honestly if your attractive enough the last 3 don't matter at all. you could be a homeless child murderer that smells like he just finished swimming laps in an open sewer and you'd still have to beat the chick's off with a stick if your hot enough.
as for us average looking guys, you basically just gotta hope there isn't a more attractive guy in her field of view
18 November 2016 07:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
18 November 2016 06:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
wonder when that at least becomes public knowledge among all western elementary ..kinder gardens, from parents .. ..
18 November 2016 06:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ankh,,,, king Hezekiel seal, keywords also, women sing based on ankh
18 November 2016 06:39
Margus Meigo commented on Mary Lane's post.
Wisdom Her self is feminine, basic of Bible
proverbs 8:24+
proverbs 8:24+
18 November 2016 06:38
Margus Meigo commented on Carla A Delgado's post.
Minute 22:00... in bible even they say about ..some warning about people who blink eyes a lot... was place, can not find it right now.
But yes, this interview is gold worth, if interviewer would only be able to keep cool to the end.. and "not go in circles" you can not start prosecute these kinds, with words... unless you willing to hold them on ground in woods, where no one hears and there is no help coming to them .. as he planned not to beat this one up.. then should have used high training to get the elite pedo expose their own kind more deeper, by using upfront knowledge why thye are talking about it at all... .
... no as a lead master... he just "teached" hes own kind, in the end of video, that if interviewer turns against you and argues then just step up and turn back to him, nothing happens.. no need to answer...
but would needed to have open end where hes kind show that be open about it... then more of these kinds would on their arrogance fallow similar way ... as they like snail eyes that pull them self in when you touch them.. have to let these to reach outh them self
hared to explain what i think.. but these kind of evils have newer so great chance to become eliminated then these times... or institutionalized again...
But yes, this interview is gold worth, if interviewer would only be able to keep cool to the end.. and "not go in circles" you can not start prosecute these kinds, with words... unless you willing to hold them on ground in woods, where no one hears and there is no help coming to them .. as he planned not to beat this one up.. then should have used high training to get the elite pedo expose their own kind more deeper, by using upfront knowledge why thye are talking about it at all... .
... no as a lead master... he just "teached" hes own kind, in the end of video, that if interviewer turns against you and argues then just step up and turn back to him, nothing happens.. no need to answer...
but would needed to have open end where hes kind show that be open about it... then more of these kinds would on their arrogance fallow similar way ... as they like snail eyes that pull them self in when you touch them.. have to let these to reach outh them self
hared to explain what i think.. but these kind of evils have newer so great chance to become eliminated then these times... or institutionalized again...
18 November 2016 06:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
it is like people are born yesterday and not know under what forces this planet lives... for as long then been one drop is keped ignored of these kind of evils..
these highest level of evils jsut are near untouchable,
if we keep being so soft..not realistic
these highest level of evils jsut are near untouchable,
if we keep being so soft..not realistic
18 November 2016 06:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but he was better kind, is told, that he treated the youth good and keep children poor parents well treated,
many was coming to get settlements when the billionaire died
many was coming to get settlements when the billionaire died
18 November 2016 06:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
even the DHL one of the owner, on the island where i lived, was publicly know to buy kids from Asia all the time, and often parents was selling kids to him kind personally, ... not that they need to work hard to get kids from lands they keep in situations like that in purpose, to have "supply" available all the time
18 November 2016 06:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
if these show people would belie in it.. would use these names and faces much differently ..
but small progress even this... een this..
but small progress even this... een this..
18 November 2016 06:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
why these man on minute 12 is smiling?
18 November 2016 06:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
most kids who are bring, transported from third world, are NEWER heard about... they are no reason for these beasts, to leave these alive as there is no parents to search them in western world system
18 November 2016 06:08
Margus Meigo commented on Carla A Delgado's post.
;Must be careful with these things.... there is a lot of communist propaganda also involved in it, the pentagram style is to take their own dirt, and with their own head price, if needed,as they spirit, they will clue it to someone who they cannot eliminate any other way... so all the docs like that have to be deeply felt and know a bit how the eil dark cleverness is working...
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but yes, this is BASIC knowledge to anyone who understands under who law the most of world lives, Greek-ROman's...
In Greek-Roman pederasty world (under who's education system, political system and cultural system most of the world lives, and army...Russia logo is Roman elite military logo..)..
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also these networks are basic knowledge to KGB and to some usa intelligence people, but is newer used for attacking them.. as them self work under pentagram
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only sad thing is, it is up to thousands of times bigger then seems from this docs.. i my self was toured also by one old pederasty prostitute in UK showing me off what kind of power their secret gay network is owning.. and they in league with these child takers..
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but yes, this is BASIC knowledge to anyone who understands under who law the most of world lives, Greek-ROman's...
In Greek-Roman pederasty world (under who's education system, political system and cultural system most of the world lives, and army...Russia logo is Roman elite military logo..)..
---
also these networks are basic knowledge to KGB and to some usa intelligence people, but is newer used for attacking them.. as them self work under pentagram
---
only sad thing is, it is up to thousands of times bigger then seems from this docs.. i my self was toured also by one old pederasty prostitute in UK showing me off what kind of power their secret gay network is owning.. and they in league with these child takers..
18 November 2016 06:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Please also keep wikiedia updated
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_Access_Pipeline_protests
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_Access_Pipeline_protests
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_Access_Pipeline_protests
18 November 2016 05:50
Margus Meigo commented on Carla A Delgado's post.
from history:
"n February 1890, the United States government broke a Lakota treaty by adjusting the Great Sioux Reservation, an area that formerly encompassed the majority of the state, and breaking it up into five smaller reservations.[3] The government was accommodating white homesteaders from the eastern United States; in addition, it intended to "break up tribal relationships" and "conform Indians to the white man's ways, peaceably if they will, or forcibly if they must".[4] On the reduced reservations, the government allocated family units on 320-acre (1.3 km2) plots for individual households. Although the Lakota were historically a nomadic people living in tipis and their Plains Native American culture was based strongly upon buffalo and horse culture, they were expected to farm and raise livestock. With the goal of assimilation, they were forced to send their children to boarding schools; the schools taught English and Christianity, as well as American cultural practices. Generally, they forbade inclusion of Native American traditional culture and language. They were beaten if they tried to do anything related to their native culture.
The farming plan failed to take into account the difficulty that Lakota farmers would have in trying to cultivate crops in the semi-arid region of South Dakota. By the end of the 1890 growing season, a time of intense heat and low rainfall, it was clear that the land was unable to produce substantial agricultural yields and, with the bison having been virtually eradicated a few years earlier, the Lakota were at risk of starvation. The people turned to the Ghost Dance ritual, which frightened the supervising agents of the Bureau of Indian Affairs. Agent James McLaughlin asked for more troops. He claimed that spiritual leader Sitting Bull was the real leader of the movement. A former agent, Valentine McGillycuddy, saw nothing extraordinary in the dances and ridiculed the panic that seemed to have overcome the agencies, saying: "The coming of the troops has frightened the Indians. If the Seventh-Day Adventists prepare the ascension robes for the Second Coming of the Savior, the United States Army is not put in motion to prevent them. Why should not the Indians have the same privilege? If the troops remain, trouble is sure to come.""
"n February 1890, the United States government broke a Lakota treaty by adjusting the Great Sioux Reservation, an area that formerly encompassed the majority of the state, and breaking it up into five smaller reservations.[3] The government was accommodating white homesteaders from the eastern United States; in addition, it intended to "break up tribal relationships" and "conform Indians to the white man's ways, peaceably if they will, or forcibly if they must".[4] On the reduced reservations, the government allocated family units on 320-acre (1.3 km2) plots for individual households. Although the Lakota were historically a nomadic people living in tipis and their Plains Native American culture was based strongly upon buffalo and horse culture, they were expected to farm and raise livestock. With the goal of assimilation, they were forced to send their children to boarding schools; the schools taught English and Christianity, as well as American cultural practices. Generally, they forbade inclusion of Native American traditional culture and language. They were beaten if they tried to do anything related to their native culture.
The farming plan failed to take into account the difficulty that Lakota farmers would have in trying to cultivate crops in the semi-arid region of South Dakota. By the end of the 1890 growing season, a time of intense heat and low rainfall, it was clear that the land was unable to produce substantial agricultural yields and, with the bison having been virtually eradicated a few years earlier, the Lakota were at risk of starvation. The people turned to the Ghost Dance ritual, which frightened the supervising agents of the Bureau of Indian Affairs. Agent James McLaughlin asked for more troops. He claimed that spiritual leader Sitting Bull was the real leader of the movement. A former agent, Valentine McGillycuddy, saw nothing extraordinary in the dances and ridiculed the panic that seemed to have overcome the agencies, saying: "The coming of the troops has frightened the Indians. If the Seventh-Day Adventists prepare the ascension robes for the Second Coming of the Savior, the United States Army is not put in motion to prevent them. Why should not the Indians have the same privilege? If the troops remain, trouble is sure to come.""
18 November 2016 05:41
Margus Meigo commented on Carla A Delgado's post.
In Estonia we have been testing 2-3 different education systems also, but there is many positive and negative factors on the way to jump in to there,
Finno-Estonia-Uralic language, is from another family is told..
http://mentalfloss.com/article/59665/feast-your-eyes-beautiful-linguistic-family-tree
Finno-Estonia-Uralic language, is from another family is told..
http://mentalfloss.com/article/59665/feast-your-eyes-beautiful-linguistic-family-tree
http://mentalfloss.com/article/59665/feast-your-eyes-beautiful-linguistic-family-tree
18 November 2016 05:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
18 November 2016 03:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
These are just a public usual TV shows and ... but if one would dare to investigate private channels, and private portals and live event for beings and doings of ALL kinds and flavors... well, ...luckily most of humans newer will find out how huge and mass scale this has been and is more ...and more...
as one would just disown it self as a member of race ..but yea, some forces are just to much, to dangerous (as they care little of attacking you ..they know they attack you anyway by attacking anything that is not them), and to invisible to battle.. so is more easy to let them die out and come forward then to try to expose "humans".. behind who is hidden.. imprisoning them helps a little.. their energy source have to be handled and re-engineered, ... you know as even our toilet system is great information and energy bank for great powers... so what can usual human know how to protect and what to fight against really, .... so best man can do is to be normal for starters and in tune with basic that is good for body and others, but this does by far not make human good jet,
sometimes then just man becomes tool to make elite evil if ones heart or mind is anything but surrendering to Indigenous Matriarchy AND to normal Christianity, with caution, caution not to miss out of tools god has provided you with, besides amazing body and co-spirits, the Plants and Shrooms. yes, and the bible, great trap for the kind from what we need to clean world from, ..is also like fly paper for deepest devils and radar system and electric fence and protective virtual world and time channeling, and much more... so treat with respect
but church with out a herbs and a women is ... no, is not
as one would just disown it self as a member of race ..but yea, some forces are just to much, to dangerous (as they care little of attacking you ..they know they attack you anyway by attacking anything that is not them), and to invisible to battle.. so is more easy to let them die out and come forward then to try to expose "humans".. behind who is hidden.. imprisoning them helps a little.. their energy source have to be handled and re-engineered, ... you know as even our toilet system is great information and energy bank for great powers... so what can usual human know how to protect and what to fight against really, .... so best man can do is to be normal for starters and in tune with basic that is good for body and others, but this does by far not make human good jet,
sometimes then just man becomes tool to make elite evil if ones heart or mind is anything but surrendering to Indigenous Matriarchy AND to normal Christianity, with caution, caution not to miss out of tools god has provided you with, besides amazing body and co-spirits, the Plants and Shrooms. yes, and the bible, great trap for the kind from what we need to clean world from, ..is also like fly paper for deepest devils and radar system and electric fence and protective virtual world and time channeling, and much more... so treat with respect
but church with out a herbs and a women is ... no, is not
18 November 2016 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on Brendan Sulisevvann's post.
That, explains their deep soul life and contribution to human species, really ?
18 November 2016 02:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
why these videos not enable them self ?
18 November 2016 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but then again, there is some strange statements people explore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XdKcZOUTpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XdKcZOUTpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XdKcZOUTpw
18 November 2016 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and sure enough just for looking youtube video browser that has not crashed on tens of tabs... crashed now on looking these dudes stuff, i must mention, chrome based browser.. same as youtube.. from alphabet.. coincident most likelly, but still, bothers.
18 November 2016 02:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Food what to eat or what not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZwxRB0ySs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZwxRB0ySs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZwxRB0ySs
18 November 2016 02:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
M83
"Over 30 holistic doctors died in past year"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYXWo3Edcmc
"Over 30 holistic doctors died in past year"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYXWo3Edcmc
18 November 2016 02:16
Margus Meigo commented on Carla A Delgado's post.
My Taurus moon..mm...
18 November 2016 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on Joyce Rheal's post.
Tiia Tips :)
18 November 2016 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on Mary Lane's post.
Alexandra Feldner
https://vimeo.com/166400170
https://vimeo.com/166400170
https://vimeo.com/166400170
18 November 2016 01:04
Margus Meigo commented on Mary Lane's post.
I am surprised a little, Trump Only got 30% of Latino votes, that shows a lot of women still vote what they liked,
for most man of these cultures Also respect and like this kind of alpha males as Trump, because he seems like someone who does not let women to puss you around, and this is the LEAST thing Spanic infiltrated cultures (part of original human species patriarch invaders, robbers, in blood, spirit) would like, most street gangstas would feel degraded to vote for Hillary and make sure their "bitches" vote as needed,
it is not so dark in all family structures, many are saved their original spirituality.. but generally they see trump as honest and the man, bastard, but a Man
for most man of these cultures Also respect and like this kind of alpha males as Trump, because he seems like someone who does not let women to puss you around, and this is the LEAST thing Spanic infiltrated cultures (part of original human species patriarch invaders, robbers, in blood, spirit) would like, most street gangstas would feel degraded to vote for Hillary and make sure their "bitches" vote as needed,
it is not so dark in all family structures, many are saved their original spirituality.. but generally they see trump as honest and the man, bastard, but a Man
18 November 2016 00:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and look at that news page...
first insulting voters and then making lie like "elite would not get why trump won.."
well, trust, TRUE, actual Elite Know as this was their life and death question, for what they would have made assassination if needed to prevent greater change in world then Soviet Union or Roman empire "fall" (they newer fall'ed..filed a bit because Christianity and Naturalists but not fall.., they as spiritual still run ..and live in here.. run pentagram programs... )
But it is important for them all to make face as "there is no difference" and .. well... usual..
first insulting voters and then making lie like "elite would not get why trump won.."
well, trust, TRUE, actual Elite Know as this was their life and death question, for what they would have made assassination if needed to prevent greater change in world then Soviet Union or Roman empire "fall" (they newer fall'ed..filed a bit because Christianity and Naturalists but not fall.., they as spiritual still run ..and live in here.. run pentagram programs... )
But it is important for them all to make face as "there is no difference" and .. well... usual..
18 November 2016 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on Mary Lane's post.
Edward and Edward Snowden clearly did not support women
they are on the side of proper Elite, from Greek-Roman times (patriarcy oldschool bilionaires who own media and economy from beginning to end, besides few Zucenbergs etc ), She had greatest threat happened to them in near millennia's: women with female agenda, on to politically most important position of world, most powerful position,... a kind of women, who have been most connected among political dynasty jet
she in my oppinion did make mistake. to not reveal Her true agenda, as now this what lies say and what others assume will be, instead what she actually dreamed with other Matriarchs like Katy Perry
they are on the side of proper Elite, from Greek-Roman times (patriarcy oldschool bilionaires who own media and economy from beginning to end, besides few Zucenbergs etc ), She had greatest threat happened to them in near millennia's: women with female agenda, on to politically most important position of world, most powerful position,... a kind of women, who have been most connected among political dynasty jet
she in my oppinion did make mistake. to not reveal Her true agenda, as now this what lies say and what others assume will be, instead what she actually dreamed with other Matriarchs like Katy Perry
18 November 2016 00:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
was this after many conserds
or they running out of drugs or just chilling
yea i know they like 70 and in work hours about 270
or they running out of drugs or just chilling
yea i know they like 70 and in work hours about 270
17 November 2016 18:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
not realted, but talking about music, spoted Rolling 2013 video https://youtu.be/V9NaxP7VCCc?t=1h37m23s and noticed them to be proper dired
https://youtu.be/V9NaxP7VCCc?t=1h37m23s
17 November 2016 18:48
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
i can, but
i still brefer driver
i still brefer driver
17 November 2016 18:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
17 November 2016 15:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2015 ostis AS Starman Leedus tegutseva kaabeltele- ja internetiettevõtte UAB Cgates. Kokku on meie klientideks 750 000 majapidamist. Neid seovad meiega kaasaegsed fiiberoptilised ja mobiilsidevõrgud, mille kaudu jookseb rikkalik telepilt, netiside ja kvaliteetsed telefonikõned.
17 November 2016 15:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mis on meie väärtused?
Maailm on täis igavaid ja elutuid ettevõtteid. Meile meeldib teha asju omamoodi, julgeda riskida, aga samas olla inimlik. See nõuab omajagu pingutust, aga on seda iga kell väärt.
STARMAN ON SINU VÄRAV MAAILMA!
Me oleme:
JULGED
Julgeme võtta vastutuse, luua uusi mängureegleid ja olla proaktiivsed ning kirglikud kõiges, mida teeme.
SIHIKINDLAD
Teeme kõike kvaliteetselt ja efektiivselt. Tiim on täpselt nii tugev, kui tugev on selle nõrgim lüli.
LUGUPIDAVAD
Peame kinni oma lubadustest, olles ühtlasi avatud ja ausad.
Maailm on täis igavaid ja elutuid ettevõtteid. Meile meeldib teha asju omamoodi, julgeda riskida, aga samas olla inimlik. See nõuab omajagu pingutust, aga on seda iga kell väärt.
STARMAN ON SINU VÄRAV MAAILMA!
Me oleme:
JULGED
Julgeme võtta vastutuse, luua uusi mängureegleid ja olla proaktiivsed ning kirglikud kõiges, mida teeme.
SIHIKINDLAD
Teeme kõike kvaliteetselt ja efektiivselt. Tiim on täpselt nii tugev, kui tugev on selle nõrgim lüli.
LUGUPIDAVAD
Peame kinni oma lubadustest, olles ühtlasi avatud ja ausad.
17 November 2016 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Starman on Baltikumi juhtiv tele- ja internetiteenuste pakkuja. Oleme lihvinud kodukandi tele, side- ja meelelahutusturgu aastast 1992.
Tõime esimesena Eestisse korralikud lairibateenused ja kaasaegseima digiTV nii koduseks kui mobiilseks tarbimiseks. 2015. aastal laienesime Leetu, ostes sealse ettevõtte Cgates.
Täna on Starman Grupi tele-, neti- ja kõneteenustega liitunud kokku 750 000 leibkonda. Neid teenindab ligi 600 rõõmsat, hoolivat inimest. Üksteise turjal seistes oleks meie tiim kilomeetrikõrgune. Oleme ettevõttena suureks saanud.
Töötame iga päev selle nimel, et olla Baltimaade eelistatuim meelelahutus- ja kommunikatsiooniteenuste allikas. Usume, et hea tuju ja sooja südamega on seda lihtsam teha. Loodame, et see paistab ka väljapoole.
Tõime esimesena Eestisse korralikud lairibateenused ja kaasaegseima digiTV nii koduseks kui mobiilseks tarbimiseks. 2015. aastal laienesime Leetu, ostes sealse ettevõtte Cgates.
Täna on Starman Grupi tele-, neti- ja kõneteenustega liitunud kokku 750 000 leibkonda. Neid teenindab ligi 600 rõõmsat, hoolivat inimest. Üksteise turjal seistes oleks meie tiim kilomeetrikõrgune. Oleme ettevõttena suureks saanud.
Töötame iga päev selle nimel, et olla Baltimaade eelistatuim meelelahutus- ja kommunikatsiooniteenuste allikas. Usume, et hea tuju ja sooja südamega on seda lihtsam teha. Loodame, et see paistab ka väljapoole.
17 November 2016 15:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kommentaarid siiani:
"tõnismöldre 10.11.2016 17:33
Möödus vaevalt tunnike Raasukese mõttetöö üles riputamisest ja konservatiivne haaras kohe selle geniaalse põrumise sabasulest kinni. Ta küsib selges ja lihtsas emakeeles: miks meie oma EL tohutut arvu töötuid ei võeta appi? Rääkimata üle lahe tööle siirdunutest. Alles eile kirjutasin ja hoiatasin siin Erkki Raasukese "tarkuse" eest ja õieti tegin, sest täna, nagu siin kirjas, saatis RE tema, loodame, et viimase raport-nõu eestlastele kaela. Põhileival on ta momendil Eesti Energia nõukogu esimese mehena ja sealgi hoiatati päevi tagasi, et kõik olevat suurepärane, ainult elektrihind tõuseb tublisti!. Ja IRL jäänukparteid reanimeerida püüdev Tsahkna (ka kodus töökas kurgikastaja) lubas just uue valitsuse majanduseksperdiks kutsuda jälle Raasukese (mingu parem kodo ära!). Ei ole sealt midagi loota! RE tagatuba ja kodukootud (isekuse taimelava) õpetused, truud teenrid, nagu trikitavad riigiametnikud ning ülekargajad, mõjutavad edasi kartelliparteisid.
Vasta kommentaarile
konservatiivne 10.11.2016 15:43
Majanduskasvu töörühma raportis pole siis midagi uut, nt "Välismaa töökäed Eestisse" - Ehk Eesti tööandjad/valitsus siis ei suuda EL-i vabatööturu heaks kasutada! EL-is on KÜMNETUHENDEID TÖÖTUT, ega meil vaja töötjate Indiast, Hiinast, Pakistanist, Afrikast Eestisse tuua! Küsin ma küll, et missigused "ekspertid" on seda tõsiasja unustanud..."
https://valitsus.ee/sites/default/files/content-editors/failid/majandusarengu_raport.pdf
"tõnismöldre 10.11.2016 17:33
Möödus vaevalt tunnike Raasukese mõttetöö üles riputamisest ja konservatiivne haaras kohe selle geniaalse põrumise sabasulest kinni. Ta küsib selges ja lihtsas emakeeles: miks meie oma EL tohutut arvu töötuid ei võeta appi? Rääkimata üle lahe tööle siirdunutest. Alles eile kirjutasin ja hoiatasin siin Erkki Raasukese "tarkuse" eest ja õieti tegin, sest täna, nagu siin kirjas, saatis RE tema, loodame, et viimase raport-nõu eestlastele kaela. Põhileival on ta momendil Eesti Energia nõukogu esimese mehena ja sealgi hoiatati päevi tagasi, et kõik olevat suurepärane, ainult elektrihind tõuseb tublisti!. Ja IRL jäänukparteid reanimeerida püüdev Tsahkna (ka kodus töökas kurgikastaja) lubas just uue valitsuse majanduseksperdiks kutsuda jälle Raasukese (mingu parem kodo ära!). Ei ole sealt midagi loota! RE tagatuba ja kodukootud (isekuse taimelava) õpetused, truud teenrid, nagu trikitavad riigiametnikud ning ülekargajad, mõjutavad edasi kartelliparteisid.
Vasta kommentaarile
konservatiivne 10.11.2016 15:43
Majanduskasvu töörühma raportis pole siis midagi uut, nt "Välismaa töökäed Eestisse" - Ehk Eesti tööandjad/valitsus siis ei suuda EL-i vabatööturu heaks kasutada! EL-is on KÜMNETUHENDEID TÖÖTUT, ega meil vaja töötjate Indiast, Hiinast, Pakistanist, Afrikast Eestisse tuua! Küsin ma küll, et missigused "ekspertid" on seda tõsiasja unustanud..."
https://valitsus.ee/sites/default/files/content-editors/failid/majandusarengu_raport.pdf
17 November 2016 14:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Põhirõhk peab olema tootlikkuse kasvatamisel," rõhutas ka peaministri majandus- ja rahandusnõunik Martin Lindpere.
"Me ei suutnud leida seda hõbekuuli, mis tõstaks meie majanduskasvu praeguselt tasemelt üle nelja protsendi või veel kõrgemale," tunnistas töörühma juht Erkki Raasuke raporti tutvustamisel. Samuti teatas ta, et nad ei paku välja maksumuudatusi.
Kõik tööjõulised inimesed tööturule
Raportis nenditakse, et pinge tööturul näitab töökäte vähesust ning tööjõumahuka majandusmudeli ammendumist. Olukorra leevendamiseks peab üle vaatama majanduse sisemised tööjõuvarud, paraku aga ei ole kasutamata puhvrit enam palju ning palgakasv ületab juba tootlikkust. Probleeme nähakse ka töötundide arvus – näiteks Poola mudeli rakendamisel võiks ka Eestis olla töötundide arv neli protsenti suurem ning samavõrra suurem oleks ka kogu majanduse maht, järeldab raport.
Kõigi tööjõuliste inimeste kaasamiseks soovitatakse kaotada noorte töötamist takistavad ajapiirangud, parandada vanemapuhkuselt naasjate stiimuleid, kõrvaldada piirangud, mis teevad ettevõtetele ületunnitöö eest maksmise kulukaks, suurendada pensionäride motivatsiooni töötada, vähendades muuhulgas nende maksukoormust.
Samuti soovitatakse tööturu toimimisel lähtuda jagamismajanduse põhimõtetest, luues seaduslikud võimalused tööjõurendiks, samuti teha hõlpsamaks lühiajaline töötamine erinevate tööandjate juures.
Raport näeb ette ka toetuste maksmist ettevõtetele, et neil oleks lihtsam kolida väiksema tööjõunappusega piirkondadesse, näiteks Ida-Virumaale. See meede on reaalselt ka juba kasutusele võetud.
Paljud ettevõtted pakuvad juba ka tasuta transporti töökoha ja elukoha vahel, mida raport välja pakub.
Välja tuuakse ka vajadus laiendada ümberõppe ja täienduskoolituse süsteemi kõigile vanusegruppidele – sedagi asus töötukassa hiljuti rakendama.
Välismaa töökäed Eestisse
Raportis nendeitakse, et Eesti ei ole välismaa töötajaskonna silmis kuigi atraktiivne ning meie tööjõuturg on välistööjõule praegu suletud. Seetõttu tehakse ettepanek avada oma tööturg ja võimaldada paar tuhat välistöötajat aastas. Töötajate hõlpsamaks leidmiseks tuleks luua e-töötaja kontseptsioon ning võimaldada selliselt leitud töötajaid rakendada siinsetel personalirendiettevõtetel. Tuleks ka lihtsustada tööloa andmise korda ning kaasata tööjõuturule enam siinseid välisüliõpilasi, samuti välismaal töötavaid eestlasi ning minimeerida naasmist takistavaid asjaolusid. Paranema peaks ka välistööjõule vajalik taristu ehk tuleks mitmekordistada kohtade arvu ingliskeelsetes lasteaedades ja koolides, pakkudes neile tasuta haridust.
Paindlikum täiendusõpe
Täiendusõppesüsteemi tuleks raporti kohaselt muuta paindlikumaks, selgitades välja, millistel erialadel on vajadus täiendava tööjõu järele ning siduda õppekavad enam tööturu vajadustega. Samuti tuleks populariseerida reaalhariduse erialasid ning kasvatada IT- eriala lõpetajate hulka. Ka ingliskeelsed õppekavad tuleks muuta välistudengitele atraktiivsemaks ning programmeerimise õpetamist tuleks alustada juba algklassides.
Innovatsioon majanduskasvu vedajaks
Raportis leitakse, et teadus- ja haridusasutuste baasrahastamine tuleb panna senisest veelgi suuremasse sõltuvusse teadustegevuse edukusest Eesti majanduskasvu edendamisel, vähendades teadusartiklitele antud osakaalu, samuti tuleks tõhustada teadus-haridusasutuste ja ettevõtluse koostööd ning tähtsustada praktika osa õppeprogrammis. Samuti tuleks haridus avada enam väliskonkurentsile, liikudes selleks ka e-kõrghariduse suunas, integreerides õppetöösse rahvusvahelisi veebipõhiseid kursusi.
Majanduse digitaliseerimine kui eesmärk omaette
Töögrupp leidis, et Eesti tööstus on digitaliseerimisega maha jäänud. Eriti paistab silma ettevõttesiseste äriprotsesside madal digitaliseerimise tase. Seetõttu tuleks seada väike- ja keskmiste ettevõtete (VKE-de) digitaliseerimine peamiseks prioriteediks töötleva tööstuse rohelises raamatus ja luua rahvusvaheline võrgustik töötleva tööstuse VKE-de digitaliseerimiseks. Oluline on ka töötada välja majanduse digitaliseerimise protsessi seire ja seada eesmärgid.
Eraldi soovitatakse välja valida kümme projekti, mille digitaliseerimist töötlevas tööstuses toetada.
Ärikeskkonna parandamine
Raportis leitakse, et Eesti peab parandama oma konkurentsivõimet otseste välisinvesteeringute kaasamisel, kuid kasutamata potentsiaal on ka inimeste ettevõtlikkus ja riskijulgus, mida saab mõjutada ettevõtluse suurema väärtustamisega ühiskonnas. Töörühm leidis, et maksusüsteem ei peaks olema majanduskasvu debatis esikohal, sest Eesti maksusüsteem juba soosibki majanduskasvu, küll aga saab maksusüsteemist leida võimalusi majanduskasvu elavdamiseks.
Vajalikuks peetakse Team Estonia kontseptsiooni, mis tegeleb Eesti brändimisega ja otsib seda, mis teeb Eesti välisinvesteeringutele atraktiivseks sihtkohaks. Samuti tuleks lisada kõrgkoolide õppekavadesse müügi- ja ekspordikoolitus ning suurendada oluliselt ligipääsu EAS-i ekspordispetsialistide nõustamisele ja ekspordimüügi koolitustele. Soovitatakse jätkata ka e-residentsuse programmiga ja säilitada senist tulumaksusüsteemi, lisades sellele võimaluse maksustada madalama maksumääraga regulaarsed dividendimaksed. Samuti tuleks jätkata ettevõtete maksukoormuse alandamisega, suurendades selleks vajadusel omandimaksude osakaalu. Eesti üldine maksukoormus peaks aga alanema riigi funktsioonide vähendamisel.
Raasuke kommenteeris, et riigi roll majanduses on liiga suur ning peaks alaliselt pidama silmas, et see roll ei suureneks.
Juhtimisoskuse parandamine
Töörühma arvates on Eestis rakendatavad juhtimispraktikad ja hoiakud võrreldavad sellega, mida Lääne-Euroopa kasutas paarkümmend aastat tagasi, teisisõnu, juhikeskne ja autoritaarsem juhtimine, tagasihoidlik kaasamine, vähene töötajate arendamine ja meeskonnatöö, nõrk strateegiline planeerimine ja ärianalüüsi vähene kasutamine otsuste tegemisel. Rohkem kaasaegseid juhtimispraktikaid on võetud kasutusele välisomanikele kuuluvates ettevõtetes, ometi on juhtimise kvaliteet avalikus sektoris võtmetähtsusega.
Töögrupp püstitas hüpoteesi, et Eesti majanduskasvu raugemine võib osaliselt olla mõjutatud Eesti ettevõtjate elukaarest ja sellega seotud majandusaktiivsuse vähenemisest.
Sellest johtuvalt peab töörühm oluliseks tähtsustada enam avaliku sektori kõrgemaid mittepoliitilisi administratiivseid ametikohti, kõrvaldades takistused nende positsioonide mehitamisel Eesti parimate juhtidega ja vaadates sealjuures üle ka palgapoliitika. Soovitatakse ka avaliku sektori töötajatele anda võimalus roteeruda lühiajaliselt innovaatilistesse erasektori ettevõtetesse, säilitades avalikus sektoris töökoht ja -tasu.
Veel täheldati, et sageli liigutakse eesmärkide poole konkreetsete arvnäitajate baasilt, ent enam tuleks lähtuda prognoosnäitajatest, mis võimaldaks eesmärkidest kõrvalekaldumisele varem reageerida.
Raasuke tõdes, et riigil võib olla küll palju arengukavu, ent need pole omavahel piisavalt seotud, mistõttu on neist vähe kasu. Seega tuleks rohkem koostööd teha.
"Me ei suutnud leida seda hõbekuuli, mis tõstaks meie majanduskasvu praeguselt tasemelt üle nelja protsendi või veel kõrgemale," tunnistas töörühma juht Erkki Raasuke raporti tutvustamisel. Samuti teatas ta, et nad ei paku välja maksumuudatusi.
Kõik tööjõulised inimesed tööturule
Raportis nenditakse, et pinge tööturul näitab töökäte vähesust ning tööjõumahuka majandusmudeli ammendumist. Olukorra leevendamiseks peab üle vaatama majanduse sisemised tööjõuvarud, paraku aga ei ole kasutamata puhvrit enam palju ning palgakasv ületab juba tootlikkust. Probleeme nähakse ka töötundide arvus – näiteks Poola mudeli rakendamisel võiks ka Eestis olla töötundide arv neli protsenti suurem ning samavõrra suurem oleks ka kogu majanduse maht, järeldab raport.
Kõigi tööjõuliste inimeste kaasamiseks soovitatakse kaotada noorte töötamist takistavad ajapiirangud, parandada vanemapuhkuselt naasjate stiimuleid, kõrvaldada piirangud, mis teevad ettevõtetele ületunnitöö eest maksmise kulukaks, suurendada pensionäride motivatsiooni töötada, vähendades muuhulgas nende maksukoormust.
Samuti soovitatakse tööturu toimimisel lähtuda jagamismajanduse põhimõtetest, luues seaduslikud võimalused tööjõurendiks, samuti teha hõlpsamaks lühiajaline töötamine erinevate tööandjate juures.
Raport näeb ette ka toetuste maksmist ettevõtetele, et neil oleks lihtsam kolida väiksema tööjõunappusega piirkondadesse, näiteks Ida-Virumaale. See meede on reaalselt ka juba kasutusele võetud.
Paljud ettevõtted pakuvad juba ka tasuta transporti töökoha ja elukoha vahel, mida raport välja pakub.
Välja tuuakse ka vajadus laiendada ümberõppe ja täienduskoolituse süsteemi kõigile vanusegruppidele – sedagi asus töötukassa hiljuti rakendama.
Välismaa töökäed Eestisse
Raportis nendeitakse, et Eesti ei ole välismaa töötajaskonna silmis kuigi atraktiivne ning meie tööjõuturg on välistööjõule praegu suletud. Seetõttu tehakse ettepanek avada oma tööturg ja võimaldada paar tuhat välistöötajat aastas. Töötajate hõlpsamaks leidmiseks tuleks luua e-töötaja kontseptsioon ning võimaldada selliselt leitud töötajaid rakendada siinsetel personalirendiettevõtetel. Tuleks ka lihtsustada tööloa andmise korda ning kaasata tööjõuturule enam siinseid välisüliõpilasi, samuti välismaal töötavaid eestlasi ning minimeerida naasmist takistavaid asjaolusid. Paranema peaks ka välistööjõule vajalik taristu ehk tuleks mitmekordistada kohtade arvu ingliskeelsetes lasteaedades ja koolides, pakkudes neile tasuta haridust.
Paindlikum täiendusõpe
Täiendusõppesüsteemi tuleks raporti kohaselt muuta paindlikumaks, selgitades välja, millistel erialadel on vajadus täiendava tööjõu järele ning siduda õppekavad enam tööturu vajadustega. Samuti tuleks populariseerida reaalhariduse erialasid ning kasvatada IT- eriala lõpetajate hulka. Ka ingliskeelsed õppekavad tuleks muuta välistudengitele atraktiivsemaks ning programmeerimise õpetamist tuleks alustada juba algklassides.
Innovatsioon majanduskasvu vedajaks
Raportis leitakse, et teadus- ja haridusasutuste baasrahastamine tuleb panna senisest veelgi suuremasse sõltuvusse teadustegevuse edukusest Eesti majanduskasvu edendamisel, vähendades teadusartiklitele antud osakaalu, samuti tuleks tõhustada teadus-haridusasutuste ja ettevõtluse koostööd ning tähtsustada praktika osa õppeprogrammis. Samuti tuleks haridus avada enam väliskonkurentsile, liikudes selleks ka e-kõrghariduse suunas, integreerides õppetöösse rahvusvahelisi veebipõhiseid kursusi.
Majanduse digitaliseerimine kui eesmärk omaette
Töögrupp leidis, et Eesti tööstus on digitaliseerimisega maha jäänud. Eriti paistab silma ettevõttesiseste äriprotsesside madal digitaliseerimise tase. Seetõttu tuleks seada väike- ja keskmiste ettevõtete (VKE-de) digitaliseerimine peamiseks prioriteediks töötleva tööstuse rohelises raamatus ja luua rahvusvaheline võrgustik töötleva tööstuse VKE-de digitaliseerimiseks. Oluline on ka töötada välja majanduse digitaliseerimise protsessi seire ja seada eesmärgid.
Eraldi soovitatakse välja valida kümme projekti, mille digitaliseerimist töötlevas tööstuses toetada.
Ärikeskkonna parandamine
Raportis leitakse, et Eesti peab parandama oma konkurentsivõimet otseste välisinvesteeringute kaasamisel, kuid kasutamata potentsiaal on ka inimeste ettevõtlikkus ja riskijulgus, mida saab mõjutada ettevõtluse suurema väärtustamisega ühiskonnas. Töörühm leidis, et maksusüsteem ei peaks olema majanduskasvu debatis esikohal, sest Eesti maksusüsteem juba soosibki majanduskasvu, küll aga saab maksusüsteemist leida võimalusi majanduskasvu elavdamiseks.
Vajalikuks peetakse Team Estonia kontseptsiooni, mis tegeleb Eesti brändimisega ja otsib seda, mis teeb Eesti välisinvesteeringutele atraktiivseks sihtkohaks. Samuti tuleks lisada kõrgkoolide õppekavadesse müügi- ja ekspordikoolitus ning suurendada oluliselt ligipääsu EAS-i ekspordispetsialistide nõustamisele ja ekspordimüügi koolitustele. Soovitatakse jätkata ka e-residentsuse programmiga ja säilitada senist tulumaksusüsteemi, lisades sellele võimaluse maksustada madalama maksumääraga regulaarsed dividendimaksed. Samuti tuleks jätkata ettevõtete maksukoormuse alandamisega, suurendades selleks vajadusel omandimaksude osakaalu. Eesti üldine maksukoormus peaks aga alanema riigi funktsioonide vähendamisel.
Raasuke kommenteeris, et riigi roll majanduses on liiga suur ning peaks alaliselt pidama silmas, et see roll ei suureneks.
Juhtimisoskuse parandamine
Töörühma arvates on Eestis rakendatavad juhtimispraktikad ja hoiakud võrreldavad sellega, mida Lääne-Euroopa kasutas paarkümmend aastat tagasi, teisisõnu, juhikeskne ja autoritaarsem juhtimine, tagasihoidlik kaasamine, vähene töötajate arendamine ja meeskonnatöö, nõrk strateegiline planeerimine ja ärianalüüsi vähene kasutamine otsuste tegemisel. Rohkem kaasaegseid juhtimispraktikaid on võetud kasutusele välisomanikele kuuluvates ettevõtetes, ometi on juhtimise kvaliteet avalikus sektoris võtmetähtsusega.
Töögrupp püstitas hüpoteesi, et Eesti majanduskasvu raugemine võib osaliselt olla mõjutatud Eesti ettevõtjate elukaarest ja sellega seotud majandusaktiivsuse vähenemisest.
Sellest johtuvalt peab töörühm oluliseks tähtsustada enam avaliku sektori kõrgemaid mittepoliitilisi administratiivseid ametikohti, kõrvaldades takistused nende positsioonide mehitamisel Eesti parimate juhtidega ja vaadates sealjuures üle ka palgapoliitika. Soovitatakse ka avaliku sektori töötajatele anda võimalus roteeruda lühiajaliselt innovaatilistesse erasektori ettevõtetesse, säilitades avalikus sektoris töökoht ja -tasu.
Veel täheldati, et sageli liigutakse eesmärkide poole konkreetsete arvnäitajate baasilt, ent enam tuleks lähtuda prognoosnäitajatest, mis võimaldaks eesmärkidest kõrvalekaldumisele varem reageerida.
Raasuke tõdes, et riigil võib olla küll palju arengukavu, ent need pole omavahel piisavalt seotud, mistõttu on neist vähe kasu. Seega tuleks rohkem koostööd teha.
17 November 2016 14:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Täna möödus täpselt aasta päevast, mil peaminister Taavi Rõivas kutsus kokku majandusekspertide töögrupi, mille ülesanne oli sõnastada ettepanekud Eesti majanduskasvu elavdamiseks. Võluvitsa majanduse hüppeliseks kasvuks ei leitud, tunnistas töögrupi juht Erkki Raasuke.
Aasta tagasi peaminister Taavi Rõivase kokku kutsutud majandusarengu töögrupp sai valmis raporti ettepanekutega, kuidas elavdada Eesti majandust uuesti kasvama.
Aasta tagasi veel peaministri ametis olnud Taavi Rõivas kutsus kokku majandusarengu töögrupi, et leida seisakusse takerdunud majanduskasvule uusi hoobasid. Majandusarengu töögruppi kuuluvad Erkki Raasuke, Ardo Hansson, Ruth Oltjer, Margit Härma, Taavi Veskimägi, Urmas Varblane, Seth Lackmann, Rain Rannu, Maris Lauri, Väino Kaldoja. Samuti osalesid töögrupis riigikantselei strateegiabüroo ja peaministri nõunikud.
Aasta aega polnud töögrupi tööst midagi kuulda, sel nädalal aga tehti teatavaks, et nüüd on dokument viimaks küps avalikkusele esitlemiseks. Taavi Rõivase luigelauluna tema peaministriajale võeti raporti esitlemine ette viimasel hetkel ja ülepeakaela, et aasta aega kogutud ideed uue valitsuse kogunedes sahtlisse tolmu koguma ei jääks.
Töögrupp pakub oma lõppraportis välja seitse ideed, millest võiks olla abi majanduse elavdamiseks. Kokkuvõtlikult võib öelda, et inimesed peaksid tundide mõttes rohkem ja ealiselt kauem - koolist pensionini - töötama, et säilitada ja pisut tõsta saavutatud taset.
"Põhirõhk peab olema tootlikkuse kasvatamisel," rõhutas ka peaministri majandus- ja rahandusnõunik Martin Lindpere.
"Me ei suutnud leida seda hõbekuuli, mis tõstaks meie majanduskasvu praeguselt tasemelt üle nelja protsendi või veel kõrgemale," tunnistas töörühma juht Erkki Raasuke raporti tutvustamisel. Samuti teatas ta, et nad ei paku välja maksumuudatusi.
http://uudised.err.ee/v/majandus/9e0c6b60-298a-4fac-961c-4544ba73c02a/otse-kl-15-raasuke-tutvustab-majandusarengu-toogrupi-raportit
Aasta tagasi peaminister Taavi Rõivase kokku kutsutud majandusarengu töögrupp sai valmis raporti ettepanekutega, kuidas elavdada Eesti majandust uuesti kasvama.
Aasta tagasi veel peaministri ametis olnud Taavi Rõivas kutsus kokku majandusarengu töögrupi, et leida seisakusse takerdunud majanduskasvule uusi hoobasid. Majandusarengu töögruppi kuuluvad Erkki Raasuke, Ardo Hansson, Ruth Oltjer, Margit Härma, Taavi Veskimägi, Urmas Varblane, Seth Lackmann, Rain Rannu, Maris Lauri, Väino Kaldoja. Samuti osalesid töögrupis riigikantselei strateegiabüroo ja peaministri nõunikud.
Aasta aega polnud töögrupi tööst midagi kuulda, sel nädalal aga tehti teatavaks, et nüüd on dokument viimaks küps avalikkusele esitlemiseks. Taavi Rõivase luigelauluna tema peaministriajale võeti raporti esitlemine ette viimasel hetkel ja ülepeakaela, et aasta aega kogutud ideed uue valitsuse kogunedes sahtlisse tolmu koguma ei jääks.
Töögrupp pakub oma lõppraportis välja seitse ideed, millest võiks olla abi majanduse elavdamiseks. Kokkuvõtlikult võib öelda, et inimesed peaksid tundide mõttes rohkem ja ealiselt kauem - koolist pensionini - töötama, et säilitada ja pisut tõsta saavutatud taset.
"Põhirõhk peab olema tootlikkuse kasvatamisel," rõhutas ka peaministri majandus- ja rahandusnõunik Martin Lindpere.
"Me ei suutnud leida seda hõbekuuli, mis tõstaks meie majanduskasvu praeguselt tasemelt üle nelja protsendi või veel kõrgemale," tunnistas töörühma juht Erkki Raasuke raporti tutvustamisel. Samuti teatas ta, et nad ei paku välja maksumuudatusi.
http://uudised.err.ee/v/majandus/9e0c6b60-298a-4fac-961c-4544ba73c02a/otse-kl-15-raasuke-tutvustab-majandusarengu-toogrupi-raportit
http://uudised.err.ee/v/majandus/9e0c6b60-298a-4fac-961c-4544ba73c02a/otse-kl-15-raasuke-tutvustab-majandusarengu-toogrupi-raportit
17 November 2016 14:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Majandusarengu töögrupi raporti terviktekst:
https://valitsus.ee/sites/default/files/content-editors/failid/majandusarengu_raport.pdf (PDF)
Majandusarengu töögrupi raporti lühikokkuvõte:
https://valitsus.ee/sites/default/files/content-editors/failid/majandusarengu_raport_kokkuvote.pdf (PDF)
https://valitsus.ee/sites/default/files/content-editors/failid/majandusarengu_raport.pdf (PDF)
Majandusarengu töögrupi raporti lühikokkuvõte:
https://valitsus.ee/sites/default/files/content-editors/failid/majandusarengu_raport_kokkuvote.pdf (PDF)
17 November 2016 14:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
„Need keskenduvad oskustööjõu kasvava puudujäägi korvamisele, ärikeskkonna parandamisele ning inimvara ja tootlikkuse kasvule. Meie hinnangul on just inimvara ja tootlikkuse kasv see, millest Eesti edasine areng kõige rohkem sõltub. Peame sellega silmas meie majanduse teadmusmahukuse, ettevõtlikkuse ning koostöö- ja juhtimisoskuse kasvu, samuti meie võimet plaanitud ja otsustatud tegevused ka ellu viia,“ ütleb Erkki Raasuke töögrupi raporti eessõnas.
Aasta jooksul üle 20 korra kogunenud majandusarengu töögrupi tegevuste seitse paketti on järgmised:
1) Rakendada Eesti tööturul kõik tööjõulised inimesed
2) Luua paremad tingimused välismaise oskustööjõu Eestisse tulekuks
3) Muuta haridus- ja täiendusõppesüsteem paindlikumaks, tööturu vajadusi enam arvestavaks
4) Seada innovatsioon majanduskasvu vedajana ühiskonna olulisemate prioriteetide hulka
5) Seada majanduse digitaliseerimine eraldiseisvaks majanduspoliitika eesmärgiks
6) Parandada juhtimisoskust era- ja avalikus sektoris
7) Parandada ärikeskkonda ning suurendada Eesti rahvusvahelist atraktiivsust
„Majandusarengu töögrupi liikmed ei ole oma tööd Eesti majandusarengule kaasa aitamisel lõpetanud. Kuigi oleme oma ettepanekud esitanud, oleme edasi aktiivsed jälgijad, et esitatud ettepanekud peale põhjalikumat debatti ka tegudeks jõuaksid,“ lausus Raasuke.
Majandusarengu töögrupi liikmed on Erkki Raasuke, Ardo Hansson, Ruth Oltjer, Margit Härma, Taavi Veskimägi, Urmas Varblane, Seth Lackmann, Rain Rannu, Maris Lauri, Väino Kaldoja. Samuti osalesid töögrupis Riigikantselei strateegiabüroo ja peaministri nõunikud.
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PlkpgSUKZQ
Lisaks:
Majandusarengu töögrupi raporti terviktekst:
https://valitsus.ee/sites/default/files/content-editors/failid/majandusarengu_raport.pdf (PDF)
Majandusarengu töögrupi raporti lühikokkuvõte:
https://valitsus.ee/sites/default/files/content-editors/failid/majandusarengu_raport_kokkuvote.pdf (PDF)
Aasta jooksul üle 20 korra kogunenud majandusarengu töögrupi tegevuste seitse paketti on järgmised:
1) Rakendada Eesti tööturul kõik tööjõulised inimesed
2) Luua paremad tingimused välismaise oskustööjõu Eestisse tulekuks
3) Muuta haridus- ja täiendusõppesüsteem paindlikumaks, tööturu vajadusi enam arvestavaks
4) Seada innovatsioon majanduskasvu vedajana ühiskonna olulisemate prioriteetide hulka
5) Seada majanduse digitaliseerimine eraldiseisvaks majanduspoliitika eesmärgiks
6) Parandada juhtimisoskust era- ja avalikus sektoris
7) Parandada ärikeskkonda ning suurendada Eesti rahvusvahelist atraktiivsust
„Majandusarengu töögrupi liikmed ei ole oma tööd Eesti majandusarengule kaasa aitamisel lõpetanud. Kuigi oleme oma ettepanekud esitanud, oleme edasi aktiivsed jälgijad, et esitatud ettepanekud peale põhjalikumat debatti ka tegudeks jõuaksid,“ lausus Raasuke.
Majandusarengu töögrupi liikmed on Erkki Raasuke, Ardo Hansson, Ruth Oltjer, Margit Härma, Taavi Veskimägi, Urmas Varblane, Seth Lackmann, Rain Rannu, Maris Lauri, Väino Kaldoja. Samuti osalesid töögrupis Riigikantselei strateegiabüroo ja peaministri nõunikud.
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PlkpgSUKZQ
Lisaks:
Majandusarengu töögrupi raporti terviktekst:
https://valitsus.ee/sites/default/files/content-editors/failid/majandusarengu_raport.pdf (PDF)
Majandusarengu töögrupi raporti lühikokkuvõte:
https://valitsus.ee/sites/default/files/content-editors/failid/majandusarengu_raport_kokkuvote.pdf (PDF)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PlkpgSUKZQ
17 November 2016 14:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Töögrupp pakkus valitsusele välja 80 tegevust majanduse elavdamiseks
10. november 2016 - 16:02
Stenbocki maja, 10. november 2016 – Täna avalikustas oma raporti peaminister Taavi Rõivase poolt aasta tagasi kokku kutsutud majandusarengu töögrupp, mis pakkus Eesti majanduse elavdamiseks valitsusele välja kokku 80 tegevust.
„Eesti majanduskeskkond võib olla väga hea, aga ta ei saa mitte kunagi valmis. Meil on ruumi paremaks saada paljudes valdkondades. Majandusarengu töögrupp kutsub valitsust üles seni tehtud plaane veelgi jõulisemalt ellu viima, avaldab toetust mitmetele käimasolevatele reformidele ning pakub uusi värskeid ideid ja poliitikasoovitusi,“ võttis Eesti tunnustatud ettevõtjate, majandusteadlaste ja –ekspertide töö kokku peaminister Taavi Rõivas. „Ma tänan kõiki töögrupis osalenud eksperte südamega tehtud töö ning inspireerivate ideede eest. Raport on nüüd valmis ja siht seatud, aga töö Eesti majandusele uue hoo andmiseks alles algab.“
Majandusarengu töögruppi juhtinud Erkki Raasukese sõnul jagasid nad 80 välja pakutud tegevust seitsmesse ettepanekute paketti, mille rakendamine võimaldab järgmisel kümnendil saavutada vähemalt 4 protsendilise majanduskasvu.
https://valitsus.ee/et/uudised/toogrupp-pakkus-valitsusele-valja-80-tegevust-majanduse-elavdamiseks
10. november 2016 - 16:02
Stenbocki maja, 10. november 2016 – Täna avalikustas oma raporti peaminister Taavi Rõivase poolt aasta tagasi kokku kutsutud majandusarengu töögrupp, mis pakkus Eesti majanduse elavdamiseks valitsusele välja kokku 80 tegevust.
„Eesti majanduskeskkond võib olla väga hea, aga ta ei saa mitte kunagi valmis. Meil on ruumi paremaks saada paljudes valdkondades. Majandusarengu töögrupp kutsub valitsust üles seni tehtud plaane veelgi jõulisemalt ellu viima, avaldab toetust mitmetele käimasolevatele reformidele ning pakub uusi värskeid ideid ja poliitikasoovitusi,“ võttis Eesti tunnustatud ettevõtjate, majandusteadlaste ja –ekspertide töö kokku peaminister Taavi Rõivas. „Ma tänan kõiki töögrupis osalenud eksperte südamega tehtud töö ning inspireerivate ideede eest. Raport on nüüd valmis ja siht seatud, aga töö Eesti majandusele uue hoo andmiseks alles algab.“
Majandusarengu töögruppi juhtinud Erkki Raasukese sõnul jagasid nad 80 välja pakutud tegevust seitsmesse ettepanekute paketti, mille rakendamine võimaldab järgmisel kümnendil saavutada vähemalt 4 protsendilise majanduskasvu.
https://valitsus.ee/et/uudised/toogrupp-pakkus-valitsusele-valja-80-tegevust-majanduse-elavdamiseks
https://valitsus.ee/et/uudised/toogrupp-pakkus-valitsusele-valja-80-tegevust-majanduse-elavdamiseks
17 November 2016 14:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vitsur 1944) on eesti majandusteadlane ja endine poliitik.
Ta oli VII Riigikogu liige ja majandusminister Tiit Vähi esimeses valitsuses 30. jaanuarist 8. juunini 1992.
Ta olnud majandusminister Edgar Savisaare nõunik ja Tallinna linnavalitsuse nõunik.
2007. aastast kuni 2012. aasta suveni oli ta Arengufondi majandusekspert.
Alates 15. oktoobrist 2012 on ta töötanud majanduseksperdina LHV Pangas.
Ta on alates 2016. aasta oktoobri esimesest poolest Vabariigi Presidendi majandusnõunik
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heido_Vitsur
Ta oli VII Riigikogu liige ja majandusminister Tiit Vähi esimeses valitsuses 30. jaanuarist 8. juunini 1992.
Ta olnud majandusminister Edgar Savisaare nõunik ja Tallinna linnavalitsuse nõunik.
2007. aastast kuni 2012. aasta suveni oli ta Arengufondi majandusekspert.
Alates 15. oktoobrist 2012 on ta töötanud majanduseksperdina LHV Pangas.
Ta on alates 2016. aasta oktoobri esimesest poolest Vabariigi Presidendi majandusnõunik
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heido_Vitsur
17 November 2016 14:44
Margus Meigo commented on Victoria Osteen's post.
Gute!
17 November 2016 06:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
.:.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=oa.594184187432498
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=oa.594184187432498
17 November 2016 06:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
joke meme also: https://www.facebook.com/boingboing/photos/a.10151118038581179.438569.27479046178/10154021652386179/?type=3&theater
17 November 2016 05:53
Margus Meigo commented on Emmanuel Geraldo De-Lima's post.
elementary
i woner, what else they should teach in ELEMENTARY school but elementary
i woner, what else they should teach in ELEMENTARY school but elementary
17 November 2016 05:52
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
kuid vb on Valge Laev...
...voi siis Kollane alveelaev vähemalt..
...voi siis Kollane alveelaev vähemalt..
17 November 2016 05:48
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
elementaarne jah naqu
17 November 2016 05:48
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
I like that womens are in top of table and man looking on to them, this is more proper direction
17 November 2016 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on Joyce Rheal's post.
give BBC lng time ago.. great half of the plan about how to get in "control" of All news and eliminate fake news AND how to gian trust and respect of people while turning humanity in to better direction with out manipulation, relativilly cheap compared to current direction and ... well,
..perhaps will get in contact with CNN, they maybe more interested about it, as they seem more honest also
..perhaps will get in contact with CNN, they maybe more interested about it, as they seem more honest also
17 November 2016 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
give BBC lng time ago.. great half of the plan about how to get in "control" of All news and eliminate fake news AND how to gian trust and respect of people while turning humanity in to better direction with out manipulation, relativilly cheap compared to current direction and ... well,
17 November 2016 03:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
17 November 2016 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
17 November 2016 03:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
IN this way change with all friends who are important in Your contact list,
ALSO add people in to your Close Frineds sircle, contact list, to see them specially often, all the time when they post something to be filled with posts you love more
ALSO add people in to your Close Frineds sircle, contact list, to see them specially often, all the time when they post something to be filled with posts you love more
17 November 2016 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sedasi muudad oma kontaktis järjest kõikidel kes olulisemad,
LISAKS, saad lisada need inimesed facebooki Lähedast inimeste kontaktlisti,
ja siis nad Sinu feedis veel eriti tihti olema hakkavad, lükates muud asjad korvale mis meeldivad vähem
LISAKS, saad lisada need inimesed facebooki Lähedast inimeste kontaktlisti,
ja siis nad Sinu feedis veel eriti tihti olema hakkavad, lükates muud asjad korvale mis meeldivad vähem
17 November 2016 03:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
must be the most famoust cover seems, as i found song, by UN assosiated account, private mode Youtube, by just searching "cover by"
and this was before end of the page, what a luck
and this was before end of the page, what a luck
17 November 2016 02:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Actually removed Elvish from the list, of badish, ... but there is many other epic love sons that have bothered me so much .. specially some of them that should be song by women only but is by man.
and by that perverting the message (even if first singer who made osng famous is man, does not matter).
..one from radio.. epic one.. can i find it soon..
For example, this song by Matriarchy souns female song in whole, but in many words, can be male more, ... but then again, some other words, to be true, can be only female song. to stay true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39_OmBO9jVg
and by that perverting the message (even if first singer who made osng famous is man, does not matter).
..one from radio.. epic one.. can i find it soon..
For example, this song by Matriarchy souns female song in whole, but in many words, can be male more, ... but then again, some other words, to be true, can be only female song. to stay true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39_OmBO9jVg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39_OmBO9jVg
17 November 2016 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
must be the most famoust cover seems, as i found song, by UN assosiated account, private mode Youtube, by just searching "cover by"
and this was before end of the page, what a luck
and this was before end of the page, what a luck
17 November 2016 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More songs in the list of..
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/05/50-cover-songs-better-than-the-originals.html
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/05/50-cover-songs-better-than-the-originals.html
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/05/50-cover-songs-better-than-the-originals.html
17 November 2016 02:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
at least this tie man, play it out in proper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLk4vdY28Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLk4vdY28Q
17 November 2016 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
another one .. with a bit more style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR7WXTMjoWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR7WXTMjoWo
17 November 2016 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
anotherone promoting tie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYLOAay_2MQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYLOAay_2MQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYLOAay_2MQ
17 November 2016 02:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Actually removed Elvish from the list, of badish, ... but there is many other epic love sons that have bothered me so much .. specially some of them that should be song by women only but is by man.
and by that perverting the message (even if first singer who made osng famous is man, does not matter).
..one from radio.. epic one.. can i find it soon..
For example, this song by Matriarchy souns female song in whole, but in many words, can be male more, ... but then again, some other words, to be true, can be only female song. to stay true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39_OmBO9jVg
and by that perverting the message (even if first singer who made osng famous is man, does not matter).
..one from radio.. epic one.. can i find it soon..
For example, this song by Matriarchy souns female song in whole, but in many words, can be male more, ... but then again, some other words, to be true, can be only female song. to stay true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39_OmBO9jVg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39_OmBO9jVg
17 November 2016 02:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sinatra My way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AVOpNR2PIs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AVOpNR2PIs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AVOpNR2PIs
17 November 2016 02:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// but is that retarded idea really true or is it a fake propacanda .. i think by this time hes soul was owertaken ...by enemy, as so potentially smart one can not do so epicly retarded and not smart anoncements that he know would fail top of that
"Rosenberg, along with fellow radicals Robert Ley and Baldur von Schirach backed the neo-pagan "German Faith Movement", which more completely rejected Judeo-Christian conceptions of God. ] During the war, Rosenberg drafted a plan for the future of religion in Germany which would see the "expulsion of the foreign Christian religions" and replacement of the Bible with Mein Kampf and the cross with the swastika in Nazified churches "
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During World War II Rosenberg outlined the future envisioned by the Hitler government for religion in Germany, with a thirty-point program for the future of the German churches. Among its articles:
the National Reich Church of Germany would claim exclusive control over all churches
publication of the Bible would cease
crucifixes, Bibles and saints were to be removed from altars
Mein Kampf would be placed on altars as "to the German nation and therefore to God the most sacred book"
the Christian Cross would be removed from all churches and replaced with the swastika
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Faith_Movement
"Rosenberg, along with fellow radicals Robert Ley and Baldur von Schirach backed the neo-pagan "German Faith Movement", which more completely rejected Judeo-Christian conceptions of God. ] During the war, Rosenberg drafted a plan for the future of religion in Germany which would see the "expulsion of the foreign Christian religions" and replacement of the Bible with Mein Kampf and the cross with the swastika in Nazified churches "
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During World War II Rosenberg outlined the future envisioned by the Hitler government for religion in Germany, with a thirty-point program for the future of the German churches. Among its articles:
the National Reich Church of Germany would claim exclusive control over all churches
publication of the Bible would cease
crucifixes, Bibles and saints were to be removed from altars
Mein Kampf would be placed on altars as "to the German nation and therefore to God the most sacred book"
the Christian Cross would be removed from all churches and replaced with the swastika
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Faith_Movement
16 November 2016 23:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// so on important things he was on spot:
"Rosenberg stated that "The general ideas of the Roman and of the Protestant churches are negative Christianity and do not, therefore, accord with our (German) soul." His support for Luther as a great German figure was always ambivalent
// (in human language: He thought that Luther was Devil Worshipper as most people who look in to him... but then again.. why he got fooled by communists and Luhter anti-jew propacanda... or did he..)
"Rosenberg stated that "The general ideas of the Roman and of the Protestant churches are negative Christianity and do not, therefore, accord with our (German) soul." His support for Luther as a great German figure was always ambivalent
// (in human language: He thought that Luther was Devil Worshipper as most people who look in to him... but then again.. why he got fooled by communists and Luhter anti-jew propacanda... or did he..)
16 November 2016 23:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" 1933 was Rosenberg's visit to Britain, intended to give the impression that the Nazis would not be a threat and to encourage links between the new regime and the British Empire. It was a notable failure. When Rosenberg laid a wreath bearing a swastika at the Cenotaph, a Labour Party candidate slashed it and later threw it in the Thames and was fined 40 shillings for willful damage at Bow Street magistrate’s court. In January 1934 Hitler granted Rosenberg responsibility for the spiritual and philosophical education of the Party and all related organizations. "
// This is all how thye express, this "visit" ?
// NOrdics more high then Estonians, and he born in here? What a ..
"As the Nazi Party's chief racial theorist, Rosenberg oversaw the construction of a human racial "ladder" that justified Hitler's racial and ethnic policies. Rosenberg built on the works of Arthur de Gobineau, Houston Stewart Chamberlain and Madison Grant, as well as on the beliefs of Hitler. He placed Blacks and Jews at the very bottom of the ladder, while at the very top stood the white "Aryan" race. Rosenberg promoted the Nordic theory which regarded Nordics as the "master race",[20][21] superior to all others, including to other Aryans (Indo-Europeans).
Rosenberg reshaped Nazi racial policy over the years, but it always consisted of Aryan supremacy, extreme German nationalism and rabid antisemitism. Rosenberg also outspokenly opposed homosexuality – notably in his pamphlet "Der Sumpf" ("The Swamp", 1927) – he viewed homosexuality (particularly lesbianism[citation needed]) as a hindrance to the expansion of the Nordic population.
"As the Nazi Party's chief racial theorist, Rosenberg oversaw the construction of a human racial "ladder" that justified Hitler's racial and ethnic policies. Rosenberg built on the works of Arthur de Gobineau, Houston Stewart Chamberlain and Madison Grant, as well as on the beliefs of Hitler. He placed Blacks and Jews at the very bottom of the ladder, while at the very top stood the white "Aryan" race. Rosenberg promoted the Nordic theory which regarded Nordics as the "master race", superior to all others, including to other Aryans (Indo-Europeans).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism
// This is all how thye express, this "visit" ?
// NOrdics more high then Estonians, and he born in here? What a ..
"As the Nazi Party's chief racial theorist, Rosenberg oversaw the construction of a human racial "ladder" that justified Hitler's racial and ethnic policies. Rosenberg built on the works of Arthur de Gobineau, Houston Stewart Chamberlain and Madison Grant, as well as on the beliefs of Hitler. He placed Blacks and Jews at the very bottom of the ladder, while at the very top stood the white "Aryan" race. Rosenberg promoted the Nordic theory which regarded Nordics as the "master race",[20][21] superior to all others, including to other Aryans (Indo-Europeans).
Rosenberg reshaped Nazi racial policy over the years, but it always consisted of Aryan supremacy, extreme German nationalism and rabid antisemitism. Rosenberg also outspokenly opposed homosexuality – notably in his pamphlet "Der Sumpf" ("The Swamp", 1927) – he viewed homosexuality (particularly lesbianism[citation needed]) as a hindrance to the expansion of the Nordic population.
"As the Nazi Party's chief racial theorist, Rosenberg oversaw the construction of a human racial "ladder" that justified Hitler's racial and ethnic policies. Rosenberg built on the works of Arthur de Gobineau, Houston Stewart Chamberlain and Madison Grant, as well as on the beliefs of Hitler. He placed Blacks and Jews at the very bottom of the ladder, while at the very top stood the white "Aryan" race. Rosenberg promoted the Nordic theory which regarded Nordics as the "master race", superior to all others, including to other Aryans (Indo-Europeans).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism
16 November 2016 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// As i have told before, the Paul apostle was clearly a devil ish man, also shown usually in red and whit out a hair, in a not humble position by good artists who recorded truth well that is still discovered in these days...by common sense.
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" It's difficult to sum up this book in a mere review, because there is simply so much that Rosenberg touches on. He writes with a unique grasp of history that is unlike anything I have read before. Rosenberg moves quickly through his summary of the history of Western mankind: Specific emphasis is put on the influences of Christianity and Judaism on Western man's racial development; Attention is also given to art, politics, nature, music, architecture, theology, and philosophy.
One of the most interesting aspects of the book for me personally is the important difference that Rosenberg makes between the concepts of *love* and *honor*. Love, for Rosenberg, has been corrupted by the Christian church and has been claimed as the highest of all values in today's ultra-egalitarian society. Honor, however, goes beyond the often frivolous aspects of "love". It is in honor, according to Rosenberg, that man finds his sense of responsibility and decency. Once these are firmly achieved, true love will then find its own way.
It is often said that the Christian church gave Europe its civilization. Rosenberg argues that in fact, the opposite is true: It is European man that gave Christianity *its* civilization. This interesting argument is quite plausible when one considers that from the very beginning, the Christian church outside of Europe (ie, Africa, Asia, etc.) never developed the kind of cultural achievements that it did in Europe. In any event, Rosenberg's history of the Church is most intriguing.
For all his criticisms of Christianity, however, it is clear that he does NOT believe that Christianity has always been a totally corrupt institution all the way through.
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" He discusses how some of Christianity's best ideas actually originated in various outside influences, specifically Zoroastrianism. This itself was later adopted and altered by Judaism; it was then further distorted in the religion built around the apostle Paul, which eventually became known as Christianity.
Again, I must stress that it is difficult to sum up everything, simply because there is so much intriguing content to absorb with this book. Highly recommended. "
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// more retarded ideas that seem not right
Positive Christianity differed from mainstream Christianity in that Positive Christianity:
Rejected the Jewish-written parts of the Bible (including the entire Old Testament)
Claimed "Aryanhood" and non-Jewishness for Christ
Promoted the political objective of national unity, to overcome confessional differences, to eliminate Catholicism, and to unite Protestantism into a single unitary Positive Christian church
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity
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" It's difficult to sum up this book in a mere review, because there is simply so much that Rosenberg touches on. He writes with a unique grasp of history that is unlike anything I have read before. Rosenberg moves quickly through his summary of the history of Western mankind: Specific emphasis is put on the influences of Christianity and Judaism on Western man's racial development; Attention is also given to art, politics, nature, music, architecture, theology, and philosophy.
One of the most interesting aspects of the book for me personally is the important difference that Rosenberg makes between the concepts of *love* and *honor*. Love, for Rosenberg, has been corrupted by the Christian church and has been claimed as the highest of all values in today's ultra-egalitarian society. Honor, however, goes beyond the often frivolous aspects of "love". It is in honor, according to Rosenberg, that man finds his sense of responsibility and decency. Once these are firmly achieved, true love will then find its own way.
It is often said that the Christian church gave Europe its civilization. Rosenberg argues that in fact, the opposite is true: It is European man that gave Christianity *its* civilization. This interesting argument is quite plausible when one considers that from the very beginning, the Christian church outside of Europe (ie, Africa, Asia, etc.) never developed the kind of cultural achievements that it did in Europe. In any event, Rosenberg's history of the Church is most intriguing.
For all his criticisms of Christianity, however, it is clear that he does NOT believe that Christianity has always been a totally corrupt institution all the way through.
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" He discusses how some of Christianity's best ideas actually originated in various outside influences, specifically Zoroastrianism. This itself was later adopted and altered by Judaism; it was then further distorted in the religion built around the apostle Paul, which eventually became known as Christianity.
Again, I must stress that it is difficult to sum up everything, simply because there is so much intriguing content to absorb with this book. Highly recommended. "
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// more retarded ideas that seem not right
Positive Christianity differed from mainstream Christianity in that Positive Christianity:
Rejected the Jewish-written parts of the Bible (including the entire Old Testament)
Claimed "Aryanhood" and non-Jewishness for Christ
Promoted the political objective of national unity, to overcome confessional differences, to eliminate Catholicism, and to unite Protestantism into a single unitary Positive Christian church
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity
16 November 2016 23:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Alfred Rosenberg offers the reader a genuine alternative to the political and spiritual attitudes which modern Western society leads us to believe are our only options. From every center of power today we are told that we MUST accept democracy as the only "good" form of government, that we MUST choose either the Judeo-Christian tradition, the New Age movement, or secular humanism as our faith, and that we MUST look to either Adam Smith or Karl Marx for economic wisdom. In "The Myth of the Twentieth Century," Rosenberg takes aim at all of these assumptions and presents us with a worldview entirely different from any of those based upon them--one with its roots deep in those primeval affective, aesthetic, and intellectual inclinations characteristic of the Caucasian race. He argues powerfully for an organic polity as opposed to a Universalist one--most specifically in the Germany of his time--but more generally for Western Civilization as a whole. At the heart of his argument is the provocative thesis that each of the races of the human species possesses a different kind of "soul," which is the origin of human cultural diversity. "
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1467987581
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1467987581
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1467987581
16 November 2016 23:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Book to read:
"In 1929 Rosenberg founded the Militant League for German Culture. He later formed the "Institute for the Study of the Jewish Question," dedicated to identifying and attacking Jewish influence in German culture and to recording the history of Judaism from a radical nationalist perspective. He became a Reichstag Deputy in 1930 and published his book on racial theory The Myth of the Twentieth Century (Der Mythus des 20. Jahrhunderts) which deals with key issues in the National Socialist ideology, such as the "Jewish question." Rosenberg intended his book as a sequel to Houston Stewart Chamberlain's above-cited book.
Despite selling more than a million copies by 1945, its influence within Nazism remains doubtful. It is often said to have been a book that was officially venerated within Nazism, but one that few had actually read beyond the first chapter or even found comprehensible.
Hitler called it "stuff nobody can understand" and disapproved of its pseudo-religious tone.
https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Twentieth-Century-Spiritual-Intellectual-Confrontations/dp/0939482444
"In 1929 Rosenberg founded the Militant League for German Culture. He later formed the "Institute for the Study of the Jewish Question," dedicated to identifying and attacking Jewish influence in German culture and to recording the history of Judaism from a radical nationalist perspective. He became a Reichstag Deputy in 1930 and published his book on racial theory The Myth of the Twentieth Century (Der Mythus des 20. Jahrhunderts) which deals with key issues in the National Socialist ideology, such as the "Jewish question." Rosenberg intended his book as a sequel to Houston Stewart Chamberlain's above-cited book.
Despite selling more than a million copies by 1945, its influence within Nazism remains doubtful. It is often said to have been a book that was officially venerated within Nazism, but one that few had actually read beyond the first chapter or even found comprehensible.
Hitler called it "stuff nobody can understand" and disapproved of its pseudo-religious tone.
https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Twentieth-Century-Spiritual-Intellectual-Confrontations/dp/0939482444
https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Twentieth-Century-Spiritual-Intellectual-Confrontations/dp/0939482444
16 November 2016 23:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Rosenberg had also been a member of the Thule Society, with Eckart.[citation needed] After the Völkischer Beobachter became the Nazi party newspaper (December 1920), Rosenberg became its editor in 1923.[ Rosenberg was a leading member of Aufbau Vereinigung, Reconstruction Organisation, a conspiratorial organisation of White Russian émigrés which had a critical influence on early Nazi policy "
16 November 2016 23:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The total number of National Prizes awarded between 1937 and 1939 was nine, thus making this award one of the rarest awards given in the Third Reich, even rarer than the German Order. Due to the outbreak of the Second World War, no further awards were made. "
One Wikipedianist, someone of liberal-communist i thought at first, had marked for Notes, for a winner a "member of nazi party" like this would be the reason for winning. But then again, anti-human like Alfred Rosenberg (born in Estonia - Latvia family bdw) does not even need any more note... to look @ first, for hes anti Christian views.
Anyway,
VInners:
Paul Troost German architect.
Alfred Rosenberg Member of the Nazi Party.
Wilhelm Filchner German explorer and discoverer of the Luitpold Coast and the Filchner-Ronne Ice Shelf.
August Bier Surgeon and the first to perform spinal anesthesia and intravenous regional anesthesia. Shared award with Ferdinand Sauerbruch.
Ferdinand Sauerbruch Surgeon and developer of the Sauerbruch chamber, a pressure chamber for operating on the open thorax, and new types of limb prostheses, which for the first time enabled simple movements to be executed with the remaining muscle of the patient. Shared award with August Bier.
Fritz Todt German engineer, senior Nazi figure, and founder of Organisation Todt.
Ferdinand Porsche German automotive engineer and creator of the first hybrid vehicle.
Willy Messerschmitt German aircraft manufacturer and designer of the Messerschmitt Bf 109, the most produced fighter aircraft in history. Shared award with Ernst Heinkel.
Ernst Heinkel German aircraft designer and producer of the Heinkel He 178, the world's first turbojet aircraft and jet plane, and the Heinkel He 176, the first rocket aircraft. Shared award with Willy Messerschmitt.
One Wikipedianist, someone of liberal-communist i thought at first, had marked for Notes, for a winner a "member of nazi party" like this would be the reason for winning. But then again, anti-human like Alfred Rosenberg (born in Estonia - Latvia family bdw) does not even need any more note... to look @ first, for hes anti Christian views.
Anyway,
VInners:
Paul Troost German architect.
Alfred Rosenberg Member of the Nazi Party.
Wilhelm Filchner German explorer and discoverer of the Luitpold Coast and the Filchner-Ronne Ice Shelf.
August Bier Surgeon and the first to perform spinal anesthesia and intravenous regional anesthesia. Shared award with Ferdinand Sauerbruch.
Ferdinand Sauerbruch Surgeon and developer of the Sauerbruch chamber, a pressure chamber for operating on the open thorax, and new types of limb prostheses, which for the first time enabled simple movements to be executed with the remaining muscle of the patient. Shared award with August Bier.
Fritz Todt German engineer, senior Nazi figure, and founder of Organisation Todt.
Ferdinand Porsche German automotive engineer and creator of the first hybrid vehicle.
Willy Messerschmitt German aircraft manufacturer and designer of the Messerschmitt Bf 109, the most produced fighter aircraft in history. Shared award with Ernst Heinkel.
Ernst Heinkel German aircraft designer and producer of the Heinkel He 178, the world's first turbojet aircraft and jet plane, and the Heinkel He 176, the first rocket aircraft. Shared award with Willy Messerschmitt.
16 November 2016 23:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
German National Prize for Art and Science aka Deutscher Nationalpreis für Kunst und Wissenschaft muidugi ka valis endale logoks sinna Greeka homo valitsuse kiivriga mehe logo, ise aga proovisid Rooma valitsemise alt välja saada (natukene veel unustades vist, et kuskohast nad endale selle Kotka sümboli riigile said ja millised Rooma impeeriumiga koostöös olevad viiking röövel pätid juba tuhat aastat tagasi endale nende maale pehme pesa ja ärivõrgud teinud)
16 November 2016 23:07
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ku iveel odav oli
"Elektri võrguteenuse pakkujaid on Eestis kokku üle kolmekümne, elektritarbijale on neist kõige kallim Eesti riigile kuuluva Elektrilevi teenus, selgub elektrihinna võrdlusportaali minuelekter.ee ülevaatest.
Võrguteenuse tasud aga moodustavad tihti üle poole elektrienergia ostmisega seotud kuludest, samas kui elektrienergia kulu võib ulatuda vaid kolmandikuni kogukuludest.
«Vaatamata sellele, et Elektrilevi AS on teistest võrguteenuse pakkujatest palju suurem ettevõte ja omab seega paremaid võimalusi mastaabiefekti kasutamiseks, on nende teenus oluliselt kallim,» kirjeldas olukorda minuelekter.ee portaali juhatuse liige Raul Ennus. «Vahed ulatuvad kuni 11 protsenti erinevate võrguteenuse pakkujate vahel, mis on märkimisväärne, kuna võrguteenuse tasud on tihti suuremad kui elektrienergia omad. Tarbijal aga puudub võimalus võrguteenuse pakkujat valida,« lisas ta.
Ennus tõi näiteks, et kui tarbides Läänemaal 2500 kwh elektrit aastas, on kogukulu järgmisel aastal fikseeritud hinnaga elektrit ostes umbes 24 eurot, aga sama tarbimise puhul Raplamaal teise võrguteenuse pakkuja juures 27 eurot kuus. Suuremate tarbimismahtude juures kasvab vahe eurodes tema sõnul veelgi. "
http://majandus24.postimees.ee/1032854/minuelekter-ee-koige-kallimat-elektrienergia-vorguteenust-pakub-riigile-kuuluv-elektrilevi
"Elektri võrguteenuse pakkujaid on Eestis kokku üle kolmekümne, elektritarbijale on neist kõige kallim Eesti riigile kuuluva Elektrilevi teenus, selgub elektrihinna võrdlusportaali minuelekter.ee ülevaatest.
Võrguteenuse tasud aga moodustavad tihti üle poole elektrienergia ostmisega seotud kuludest, samas kui elektrienergia kulu võib ulatuda vaid kolmandikuni kogukuludest.
«Vaatamata sellele, et Elektrilevi AS on teistest võrguteenuse pakkujatest palju suurem ettevõte ja omab seega paremaid võimalusi mastaabiefekti kasutamiseks, on nende teenus oluliselt kallim,» kirjeldas olukorda minuelekter.ee portaali juhatuse liige Raul Ennus. «Vahed ulatuvad kuni 11 protsenti erinevate võrguteenuse pakkujate vahel, mis on märkimisväärne, kuna võrguteenuse tasud on tihti suuremad kui elektrienergia omad. Tarbijal aga puudub võimalus võrguteenuse pakkujat valida,« lisas ta.
Ennus tõi näiteks, et kui tarbides Läänemaal 2500 kwh elektrit aastas, on kogukulu järgmisel aastal fikseeritud hinnaga elektrit ostes umbes 24 eurot, aga sama tarbimise puhul Raplamaal teise võrguteenuse pakkuja juures 27 eurot kuus. Suuremate tarbimismahtude juures kasvab vahe eurodes tema sõnul veelgi. "
http://majandus24.postimees.ee/1032854/minuelekter-ee-koige-kallimat-elektrienergia-vorguteenust-pakub-riigile-kuuluv-elektrilevi
http://majandus24.postimees.ee/1032854/minuelekter-ee-koige-kallimat-elektrienergia-vorguteenust-pakub-riigile-kuuluv-elektrilevi
16 November 2016 22:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vaatsin, et sellise asja eestisse toimetamine on sama kallis kui see seade ise, kuid ega see ka igati asendav lahendus poleks,
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16 November 2016 22:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Andmeladu on infosüsteem, kuhu on koondatud kõik elektri müügi ja ülekandmisega seotud lepingud ning elektritarbimise mõõteandmed.
Elektritarbijatel on Andmelao infosüsteemis võimalik:
Näha oma elektritarbimise kohtadega seotud lepinguid
Jälgida oma elektritarbimisega seotud ajaloolisi andmeid
Anda ühele või mitmele elektrimüüjale volitus ligipääsuks oma elektritarbimise andmetele, mille alusel saab elektrimüüja teha personaalse hinnapakkumise
https://andmeladu.elering.ee/consumer/home
Elektritarbijatel on Andmelao infosüsteemis võimalik:
Näha oma elektritarbimise kohtadega seotud lepinguid
Jälgida oma elektritarbimisega seotud ajaloolisi andmeid
Anda ühele või mitmele elektrimüüjale volitus ligipääsuks oma elektritarbimise andmetele, mille alusel saab elektrimüüja teha personaalse hinnapakkumise
https://andmeladu.elering.ee/consumer/home
https://andmeladu.elering.ee/consumer/home
16 November 2016 22:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Kuidas elektrimüüjat vahetada?
Samm-sammult toimub elektrimüüja vahetamine nii:
Esmakordseks elektrilepingu sõlmimiseks tasub üle kontrollida, kas Sul on kehtiv võrguleping võrguettevõtjaga. Kui võrguleping on olemas, siis saad sõlmida ka elektrilepingu. Kui kehtivat võrgulepingut ei ole, tuleks esmalt pöörduda võrguettevõtja poole võrgulepingu sõlmimise võimaluse väljaselgitamiseks.
Elektri müümiseks peab elektrimüüjal olema Konkurentsiameti poolt väljastatud elektrimüügiluba. Elektrimüügi tegevusloa võib taotleda osaühing või aktsiaselts, mille osa- või aktsiakapital on vähemalt 31 950 eurot. Seadus näeb sellest reeglist ette ka erandid, kuid sellisel juhul peaks elektrit müüv isik suutma selgelt viidata, millise elektrituruseaduse sätte alusel ta elektrit ilma tegevusloata müüb. Tegevuslubade infoga saab tutvuda majandustegevuse registris.
Elektrimüüjal võib pakkumise tegemiseks olla vajalik tutvuda Sinu elektritarbimise andmetega. Andmeid hoitakse andmelaos (http://andmeladu.elering.ee/consumer/home) ning selleks, et elektrimüüja saaks nendega tutvuda, pead Sa andma müüjale oma nõusoleku. Kodutarbija puhul peab nõusolek olema antud kirjalikult. Nõusolekut on müüjale võimalik anda andmelaos või müüja juures, sh müüja veebikeskkonnas. Tarbimisandmeid võid küsida ka oma võrguettevõtjalt.
Just Sulle sobiva elektrienergia pakkumise leidmiseks tasub võrrelda mitut pakkumist. Kindlasti tasub kaaluda, kas osta elektrit fikseeritud või muutuva hinnaga ja kas sõlmida tähtajaline või tähtajatu leping. Tutvu alati ka lepingutingimustega, eriti nendega, mis puudutavad lepingu lõpetamist.
Elektrilepingu sõlmimise vormile kohustuslikke nõudeid ei ole. Siiski soovitame sõlmida leping kirjalikult, et kokkulepitud tingimused oleksid selgelt fikseeritud. Müüjad pakuvad elektrilepingu sõlmimise võimalust nii internetis, telefoni teel, klienditeenindustes, kui ka kaubanduskeskustes.
Kui sõlmid elektrilepingu interneti või telefoni teel, saad lepingust 14 päeva jooksul taganeda. Selleks pead esitama vastava avalduse müüjale. Mõnel müüjal on taganemisavalduse esitamise võimalus ka tema veebikeskkonnas olemas. Telefoni teel elektrilepingu sõlmimisel saadab müüja Sulle koju lepingu sõlmimist ja kokkulepitud tingimusi kinnitava kinnituskirja, millele saad esitada vastuväiteid kolme nädala jooksul.
Pärast uue elektrilepingu sõlmimist toimub elektrimüüja vahetus, mis võtab aega kuni 21 päeva. Reaalne müüjavahetus toimub alati kuu algul. Seega, kui soovid hakata järgmisest kuust elektrit ostma uuelt müüjalt, pead lepingu sõlmima vähemalt 21 päeva enne kuu lõppu. Elektrimüüja vahetuse võib pikemaks venitada see, kui Sinu eelmise elektrilepingu lõpetamine on seotud pikemate tähtaegadega. Seda tasub enne müüja vahetamist lepingust järele vaadata.
Eelmisele müüjale pead müüjavahetusest ja oma kehtiva lepingu lõpetamisest kas ise teatama või teeb seda Sinu eest ja Sinu volitusel uus elektrimüüja. Kuna uus müüja annab lepingu sõlmimisest andmelaole teada, siis saab võrguettevõtja müüja vahetamisest teada andmelaost ja teda eraldi teavitama ei pea. Kindlasti pane tähele, kui pikalt pead praegusele müüjale elektrilepingu lõpetamisest ette teatama ja siis saad arvestada, millal uus elektrimüüja saab elektrimüügiga alustada. Lepingu lõpetamise teate soovitame esitada elektrooniliselt või kirjalikult. Pikema etteteatamistähtaja puhul tasuks müüjaga proovida jõuda kokkuleppele selle lühendamises.
Müüjavahetus ja uus elektrileping hakkab kehtima 21-päeva mõõdumisele järgneva kalendrikuu vahetumisel kell 00.00.
Erandjuhul võib elektrileping jõustuda ka muul ajal. Seda siis, kui Sul puudub kehtiv võrguleping ning see tuleb eelnevalt sõlmida. Võrguleping hakkab kehtima sõlmimisele järgneval päeval kell 00.00. Elektrileping hakkab kehtima võrgulepinguga samal päeval.
Kui plaanid müüjat vahetada, siis vaata järele, kas kehtiva elektrilepingu lõpetamisega kaasneb leppetrahv või pikem etteteatamistähtaeg.
Kui kasutad üldteenust ja soovid sellelt üle minna lepingu alusel elektriostule, siis tuleb Sul müüjaga sõlmida elektrileping ning üldteenuselt üleminek jõustub 21 päeva möödumisele järgneva kalendrikuu vahetusest.
Kui oled aga äritarbija, kelle võrguühendus on üle 63-ampri ja Sul ei ole elektrilepingut ühegi müüjaga, siis kui nüüd sõlmid elektrilepingu, jõustub see järgmisest päevast.
Kas praegune müüja saab vahetust takistada?
Kes peab teatama elektrimüüja vahetuseks vajalikud elektriarvesti näidud?
Kas vahetusest tuleb teavitada praegust müüjat?
Kas müüjavahetus on tasuline?
Mis juhtub siis, kui elektrimüüjat ei vali?
Kas elektrimüüja vahetusest saab loobuda?
Millal saab elektrimüüjat vahetada?
Kui tihti saab elektrimüüjat vahetada?
Mis juhtub pärast elektrimüüja vahetust?
Mida elektrimüüja vahetus kaasa toob?
Kas elektrimüüja vahetus toob kaasa elektrivarustuse katkemise?
Mis saab siis, kui müüjavahetus ebaõnnestub?
Miks kasutada energiaturg.ee keskkonda?
Kuidas energiaturg.ee saab hinnainfot?
Mis on üldteenus?
Kellel on õigus üldteenuse korras elektrit osta?
Kui palju üldteenuse korras müüdav elekter maksab?
Mis saab siis, kui äritarbija ei vali elektrimüüjat?
Kes võivad elektrit müüa?
Mis on andmeladu?
Mis on EIC-kood?
Kes on kodutarbija?
Kes on äritarbija?
Kes on väiketarbija?
Millest elektriarve koosneb?
Kas elektrimüüjat valib korteriühistu või korteriomanik?
Kas rohelise energia paketi valimine vabastab taastuvenergia tasu maksmisest?
Mida tähendab taastuvenergia protsent võrdlustulemustes?
Kust saab börsihindade kohta rohkem teavet?
Millised riigiametid tegelevad elektrituru järelevalvega?
Kuidas kujuneb börsihind muutuvhinnaga pakettides?
Mis on tüüpkoormusgraafik?
Millal eelistada börsihinnast sõltuvat ja millal fikseeritud hinnaga pakette?
Kust saavad informatsiooni inimesed, kes ei kasuta internetti?
Millal pikenevad tähtajalised lepingud?
Miks elektrimüüjat valida või vahetada?
Kui suur võib olla elektrimüüja vahetusega saavutatav hinnavõit?
Mida tuleks enne elektrimüüja vahetamist läbi mõelda?
Kes saavad elektrimüüjat vahetada?
Mida saab vahetada?
Kui tihti saab elektrimüüjat vahetada?
http://energiaturg.ee/vaiketarbija/kkk/
Samm-sammult toimub elektrimüüja vahetamine nii:
Esmakordseks elektrilepingu sõlmimiseks tasub üle kontrollida, kas Sul on kehtiv võrguleping võrguettevõtjaga. Kui võrguleping on olemas, siis saad sõlmida ka elektrilepingu. Kui kehtivat võrgulepingut ei ole, tuleks esmalt pöörduda võrguettevõtja poole võrgulepingu sõlmimise võimaluse väljaselgitamiseks.
Elektri müümiseks peab elektrimüüjal olema Konkurentsiameti poolt väljastatud elektrimüügiluba. Elektrimüügi tegevusloa võib taotleda osaühing või aktsiaselts, mille osa- või aktsiakapital on vähemalt 31 950 eurot. Seadus näeb sellest reeglist ette ka erandid, kuid sellisel juhul peaks elektrit müüv isik suutma selgelt viidata, millise elektrituruseaduse sätte alusel ta elektrit ilma tegevusloata müüb. Tegevuslubade infoga saab tutvuda majandustegevuse registris.
Elektrimüüjal võib pakkumise tegemiseks olla vajalik tutvuda Sinu elektritarbimise andmetega. Andmeid hoitakse andmelaos (http://andmeladu.elering.ee/consumer/home) ning selleks, et elektrimüüja saaks nendega tutvuda, pead Sa andma müüjale oma nõusoleku. Kodutarbija puhul peab nõusolek olema antud kirjalikult. Nõusolekut on müüjale võimalik anda andmelaos või müüja juures, sh müüja veebikeskkonnas. Tarbimisandmeid võid küsida ka oma võrguettevõtjalt.
Just Sulle sobiva elektrienergia pakkumise leidmiseks tasub võrrelda mitut pakkumist. Kindlasti tasub kaaluda, kas osta elektrit fikseeritud või muutuva hinnaga ja kas sõlmida tähtajaline või tähtajatu leping. Tutvu alati ka lepingutingimustega, eriti nendega, mis puudutavad lepingu lõpetamist.
Elektrilepingu sõlmimise vormile kohustuslikke nõudeid ei ole. Siiski soovitame sõlmida leping kirjalikult, et kokkulepitud tingimused oleksid selgelt fikseeritud. Müüjad pakuvad elektrilepingu sõlmimise võimalust nii internetis, telefoni teel, klienditeenindustes, kui ka kaubanduskeskustes.
Kui sõlmid elektrilepingu interneti või telefoni teel, saad lepingust 14 päeva jooksul taganeda. Selleks pead esitama vastava avalduse müüjale. Mõnel müüjal on taganemisavalduse esitamise võimalus ka tema veebikeskkonnas olemas. Telefoni teel elektrilepingu sõlmimisel saadab müüja Sulle koju lepingu sõlmimist ja kokkulepitud tingimusi kinnitava kinnituskirja, millele saad esitada vastuväiteid kolme nädala jooksul.
Pärast uue elektrilepingu sõlmimist toimub elektrimüüja vahetus, mis võtab aega kuni 21 päeva. Reaalne müüjavahetus toimub alati kuu algul. Seega, kui soovid hakata järgmisest kuust elektrit ostma uuelt müüjalt, pead lepingu sõlmima vähemalt 21 päeva enne kuu lõppu. Elektrimüüja vahetuse võib pikemaks venitada see, kui Sinu eelmise elektrilepingu lõpetamine on seotud pikemate tähtaegadega. Seda tasub enne müüja vahetamist lepingust järele vaadata.
Eelmisele müüjale pead müüjavahetusest ja oma kehtiva lepingu lõpetamisest kas ise teatama või teeb seda Sinu eest ja Sinu volitusel uus elektrimüüja. Kuna uus müüja annab lepingu sõlmimisest andmelaole teada, siis saab võrguettevõtja müüja vahetamisest teada andmelaost ja teda eraldi teavitama ei pea. Kindlasti pane tähele, kui pikalt pead praegusele müüjale elektrilepingu lõpetamisest ette teatama ja siis saad arvestada, millal uus elektrimüüja saab elektrimüügiga alustada. Lepingu lõpetamise teate soovitame esitada elektrooniliselt või kirjalikult. Pikema etteteatamistähtaja puhul tasuks müüjaga proovida jõuda kokkuleppele selle lühendamises.
Müüjavahetus ja uus elektrileping hakkab kehtima 21-päeva mõõdumisele järgneva kalendrikuu vahetumisel kell 00.00.
Erandjuhul võib elektrileping jõustuda ka muul ajal. Seda siis, kui Sul puudub kehtiv võrguleping ning see tuleb eelnevalt sõlmida. Võrguleping hakkab kehtima sõlmimisele järgneval päeval kell 00.00. Elektrileping hakkab kehtima võrgulepinguga samal päeval.
Kui plaanid müüjat vahetada, siis vaata järele, kas kehtiva elektrilepingu lõpetamisega kaasneb leppetrahv või pikem etteteatamistähtaeg.
Kui kasutad üldteenust ja soovid sellelt üle minna lepingu alusel elektriostule, siis tuleb Sul müüjaga sõlmida elektrileping ning üldteenuselt üleminek jõustub 21 päeva möödumisele järgneva kalendrikuu vahetusest.
Kui oled aga äritarbija, kelle võrguühendus on üle 63-ampri ja Sul ei ole elektrilepingut ühegi müüjaga, siis kui nüüd sõlmid elektrilepingu, jõustub see järgmisest päevast.
Kas praegune müüja saab vahetust takistada?
Kes peab teatama elektrimüüja vahetuseks vajalikud elektriarvesti näidud?
Kas vahetusest tuleb teavitada praegust müüjat?
Kas müüjavahetus on tasuline?
Mis juhtub siis, kui elektrimüüjat ei vali?
Kas elektrimüüja vahetusest saab loobuda?
Millal saab elektrimüüjat vahetada?
Kui tihti saab elektrimüüjat vahetada?
Mis juhtub pärast elektrimüüja vahetust?
Mida elektrimüüja vahetus kaasa toob?
Kas elektrimüüja vahetus toob kaasa elektrivarustuse katkemise?
Mis saab siis, kui müüjavahetus ebaõnnestub?
Miks kasutada energiaturg.ee keskkonda?
Kuidas energiaturg.ee saab hinnainfot?
Mis on üldteenus?
Kellel on õigus üldteenuse korras elektrit osta?
Kui palju üldteenuse korras müüdav elekter maksab?
Mis saab siis, kui äritarbija ei vali elektrimüüjat?
Kes võivad elektrit müüa?
Mis on andmeladu?
Mis on EIC-kood?
Kes on kodutarbija?
Kes on äritarbija?
Kes on väiketarbija?
Millest elektriarve koosneb?
Kas elektrimüüjat valib korteriühistu või korteriomanik?
Kas rohelise energia paketi valimine vabastab taastuvenergia tasu maksmisest?
Mida tähendab taastuvenergia protsent võrdlustulemustes?
Kust saab börsihindade kohta rohkem teavet?
Millised riigiametid tegelevad elektrituru järelevalvega?
Kuidas kujuneb börsihind muutuvhinnaga pakettides?
Mis on tüüpkoormusgraafik?
Millal eelistada börsihinnast sõltuvat ja millal fikseeritud hinnaga pakette?
Kust saavad informatsiooni inimesed, kes ei kasuta internetti?
Millal pikenevad tähtajalised lepingud?
Miks elektrimüüjat valida või vahetada?
Kui suur võib olla elektrimüüja vahetusega saavutatav hinnavõit?
Mida tuleks enne elektrimüüja vahetamist läbi mõelda?
Kes saavad elektrimüüjat vahetada?
Mida saab vahetada?
Kui tihti saab elektrimüüjat vahetada?
http://energiaturg.ee/vaiketarbija/kkk/
http://andmeladu.elering.ee/consumer/home
16 November 2016 22:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mis juhtub, kui klient elektrimüüjat ei vali?
Kui klient ühegi elektrimüüjaga lepingut ei sõlmi, ei katke tema elektrivarustus. Koduklient, kes elektrilepingut ei sõlmi, ostab elektrit üldteenuse alusel. Tarbijale elektri tagamine üldteenuse raames on võrguettevõtja ülesanne, kes saab elektrit müüa kas ise või peab selleks nimetama elektrimüüja. Kui võrguettevõtjal on üle 100 000 kliendi, nagu seda on Elektrilevil, ei tohi võrguettevõtja ise elektrimüügiga tegeleda, vaid peab selleks nimetama müüja. Elektrilevi nimetatud müüja on Eesti Energia. Seega, Elektrilevi võrgupiirkonnas asuvale kodukliendile, kes müüjat ei vali, müüb üldteenuse raames elektrit Eesti Energia.
Üldteenuse hinnakujunduse tingimusi reguleerib elektrituruseadus ja hinna põhjendatust kontrollib Konkurentsiamet. Soovi korral saab klient alati vahetada üldteenuse välja mõne elektrimüüja pakkumise vastu või siis vastupidi – loobuda elektrimüüjast ja eelistada üldteenust.
Ärikliendist elektritarbijale, kelle tarbimiskoht asub keskpingel või madalpingel üle 63 A, on elektrituruseaduse järgi kohustuslik sõlmida elektri tarbimiseks elektrimüüjaga leping (elektrituruseaduses nimetatakse seda avatud tarne lepinguks). Kui klient elektrilepingut ei sõlmi või kehtiv leping lõppeb, müüb talle elektrit võrguettevõte või tema nimetatud elektrimüüja bilansienergia hinnaga. Elektrilevi ärikliendile, kes müüjat ei vali, tagab sellisel juhul elektrimüügi Eesti Energia.
Kui klient ühegi elektrimüüjaga lepingut ei sõlmi, ei katke tema elektrivarustus. Koduklient, kes elektrilepingut ei sõlmi, ostab elektrit üldteenuse alusel. Tarbijale elektri tagamine üldteenuse raames on võrguettevõtja ülesanne, kes saab elektrit müüa kas ise või peab selleks nimetama elektrimüüja. Kui võrguettevõtjal on üle 100 000 kliendi, nagu seda on Elektrilevil, ei tohi võrguettevõtja ise elektrimüügiga tegeleda, vaid peab selleks nimetama müüja. Elektrilevi nimetatud müüja on Eesti Energia. Seega, Elektrilevi võrgupiirkonnas asuvale kodukliendile, kes müüjat ei vali, müüb üldteenuse raames elektrit Eesti Energia.
Üldteenuse hinnakujunduse tingimusi reguleerib elektrituruseadus ja hinna põhjendatust kontrollib Konkurentsiamet. Soovi korral saab klient alati vahetada üldteenuse välja mõne elektrimüüja pakkumise vastu või siis vastupidi – loobuda elektrimüüjast ja eelistada üldteenust.
Ärikliendist elektritarbijale, kelle tarbimiskoht asub keskpingel või madalpingel üle 63 A, on elektrituruseaduse järgi kohustuslik sõlmida elektri tarbimiseks elektrimüüjaga leping (elektrituruseaduses nimetatakse seda avatud tarne lepinguks). Kui klient elektrilepingut ei sõlmi või kehtiv leping lõppeb, müüb talle elektrit võrguettevõte või tema nimetatud elektrimüüja bilansienergia hinnaga. Elektrilevi ärikliendile, kes müüjat ei vali, tagab sellisel juhul elektrimüügi Eesti Energia.
16 November 2016 22:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Eestis tegutseva ligi 35 jaotusvõrguettevõtte roll – tagada vajalik taristu elektri edastamiseks ja elekter tarbimiskohta kohale tuua – on jäänud ka avatud turul samaks. Endiselt on võrguettevõtja kohustuseks ka elektrinäitude kogumine ehk tarbitud elektrikoguste mõõtmine, arvestite töökorras hoidmine, rikete likvideerimine ja muud võrguettevõtja ülesanded. Avatud turul on muutunud aga elektrikoguste ehk lihtsamini öeldes näitude arvestamise ja edastamise kord – need arvestab võrguettevõte nüüdsest kuu asemel tunnitäpsusega ja saadab iga kuu Eleringi andmelattu. Kuukoguste asendumine tunnipõhiste kogustega tähendab võrguettevõtjatele enam kui 700-kordset andmehulga suurenemist. Elektrilevi 640 000 arvesti puhul tuleb õigel ajal õigesse kohta edastada umbes 460 miljonit andmeühikut. Kui võrguettevõtja on andmed Eleringi andmelattu toimetanud, saab neid kasutada elektrimüüja elektriarve väljastamiseks.
https://www.elektrilevi.ee/elektriturg
https://www.elektrilevi.ee/elektriturg
https://www.elektrilevi.ee/elektriturg
16 November 2016 22:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui palju saab olla hind viimase 10 aastaga tõusnud ?
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" Võrguteenus elektrikuludes
Tarbija jaoks koosneb elektrikulu laias laastus kolmest komponendist: elektrienergia, võrgutasu ning riiklikud maksud ja tasud (taastuvenergia tasu, elektriaktsiis ja käibemaks). Võttes aluseks kõikide Elektrilevi klientide keskmise võrgutasu ja elektri 2013. aasta keskmise börsihinna, mis on kaalutud Elektrilevi tüüpkoormusgraafikuga ja millele on lisatud müüjate hinnanguline keskmine marginaal (0,22 s/kWh ilma käibemaksuta), jagunevad hinnakomponendid järgmiselt:
Võrguteenuse hinna osakaal varieerub aga märgatavalt sõltuvalt kliendi võrgu- ja elektripaketist. Kodukliendi elektriarvest moodustab võrgutasu näiteks üldjuhul enam kui 40%.
Võrguteenuse hind
Kuidas hind kujuneb? »
Võrgutasud naaberriikides »
Taastuvenergia tasu ja elektriaktsiis »
Reaktiivenergia »
https://www.elektrilevi.ee/hind
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" Võrguteenus elektrikuludes
Tarbija jaoks koosneb elektrikulu laias laastus kolmest komponendist: elektrienergia, võrgutasu ning riiklikud maksud ja tasud (taastuvenergia tasu, elektriaktsiis ja käibemaks). Võttes aluseks kõikide Elektrilevi klientide keskmise võrgutasu ja elektri 2013. aasta keskmise börsihinna, mis on kaalutud Elektrilevi tüüpkoormusgraafikuga ja millele on lisatud müüjate hinnanguline keskmine marginaal (0,22 s/kWh ilma käibemaksuta), jagunevad hinnakomponendid järgmiselt:
Võrguteenuse hinna osakaal varieerub aga märgatavalt sõltuvalt kliendi võrgu- ja elektripaketist. Kodukliendi elektriarvest moodustab võrgutasu näiteks üldjuhul enam kui 40%.
Võrguteenuse hind
Kuidas hind kujuneb? »
Võrgutasud naaberriikides »
Taastuvenergia tasu ja elektriaktsiis »
Reaktiivenergia »
https://www.elektrilevi.ee/hind
16 November 2016 22:37
Margus Meigo commented on Vallo Meigo's post.
see vihastab nii sõnatuks, et võtab nõutult ekraani vahtima
16 November 2016 05:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
when relgious is mixed with partly science for safeguarding their own worryes :
"Interstellar space travel is much more difficult than indicated in movies and television series, such as Star Trek and Star Wars and the like. First, it is not possible to travel at speeds greater than the speed of light - the physics of the universe prevent it.
Second, traveling near the speed of light is impractical for biological organisms. Collisions with particles even the size of a grain of sand would be catastrophic.
An even worse problem is that the light from ordinary stars would be blue-shifted all the way to the gamma end of the spectrum when traveling near the speed of light. These gamma rays would destroy all biological life - even if it were in suspended animation (if that were possible).
In essence, these problems would restrict the speed of travel to well below the speed of light. The most optimistic estimate for the presence of extraterrestrial civilizations would put them 2000 light years apart. With no intermediate habitable stopping points, space travel over this distance would be impractical. So, even if we are not alone in this galaxy, it would be highly unlikely that any extraterrestrial civilization could have visited us. What about all the "evidence" for extraterrestrials and UFOs? See the links below for more information
"Interstellar space travel is much more difficult than indicated in movies and television series, such as Star Trek and Star Wars and the like. First, it is not possible to travel at speeds greater than the speed of light - the physics of the universe prevent it.
Second, traveling near the speed of light is impractical for biological organisms. Collisions with particles even the size of a grain of sand would be catastrophic.
An even worse problem is that the light from ordinary stars would be blue-shifted all the way to the gamma end of the spectrum when traveling near the speed of light. These gamma rays would destroy all biological life - even if it were in suspended animation (if that were possible).
In essence, these problems would restrict the speed of travel to well below the speed of light. The most optimistic estimate for the presence of extraterrestrial civilizations would put them 2000 light years apart. With no intermediate habitable stopping points, space travel over this distance would be impractical. So, even if we are not alone in this galaxy, it would be highly unlikely that any extraterrestrial civilization could have visited us. What about all the "evidence" for extraterrestrials and UFOs? See the links below for more information
16 November 2016 04:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// like how they sift from one to another side :
"This paper has shown that the probability of aliens visiting the earth is virtually zero. Potential aliens in other galaxies are too far away to detect our presence (since radio signals will not reach them for millions of years) and the travel times make intergalactic travel impractical. Recent scientific studies demonstrate that the universe is much less hospitable to life than it would seem from our unique Solar System and planet. A large proportion of our galaxy is uninhabitable. Parts of it would not even be expected to produce rocky planets. The highly unlikely collision that produced our large moon prevented the earth from being a waterworld.5
It also ejected the majority of our primordial atmosphere, which prevented the earth from going through a runaway greenhouse effect similar to what happened to Venus, our sister planet.
Finally, our Solar System is unique in that it has large gas giants located only in the outer regions. Other systems discovered have gas giants located either near their star or in both inner and outer regions of their planetary system. The presence of gas giants near the star would eject any rocky planets from orbit. The presence of gas giants in the outer region of planetary systems is absolutely necessary for the survival of advanced life forms. Without Jupiter, the number of catastrophic collisions that the earth would experience would be at least 10,000 times greater. So instead of suffering massive species extinction events every 100 million years, the earth would experience these events every 10,000 years.6 Only bacteria and other simple life forms would be able to survive this kind of bombardment - no advanced life could ever form in the vast majority of planetary systems. These problems indicate that there would be no more than 150 advanced civilizations within our galaxy - and, more likely, we are completely alone in our galaxy."
"This paper has shown that the probability of aliens visiting the earth is virtually zero. Potential aliens in other galaxies are too far away to detect our presence (since radio signals will not reach them for millions of years) and the travel times make intergalactic travel impractical. Recent scientific studies demonstrate that the universe is much less hospitable to life than it would seem from our unique Solar System and planet. A large proportion of our galaxy is uninhabitable. Parts of it would not even be expected to produce rocky planets. The highly unlikely collision that produced our large moon prevented the earth from being a waterworld.5
It also ejected the majority of our primordial atmosphere, which prevented the earth from going through a runaway greenhouse effect similar to what happened to Venus, our sister planet.
Finally, our Solar System is unique in that it has large gas giants located only in the outer regions. Other systems discovered have gas giants located either near their star or in both inner and outer regions of their planetary system. The presence of gas giants near the star would eject any rocky planets from orbit. The presence of gas giants in the outer region of planetary systems is absolutely necessary for the survival of advanced life forms. Without Jupiter, the number of catastrophic collisions that the earth would experience would be at least 10,000 times greater. So instead of suffering massive species extinction events every 100 million years, the earth would experience these events every 10,000 years.6 Only bacteria and other simple life forms would be able to survive this kind of bombardment - no advanced life could ever form in the vast majority of planetary systems. These problems indicate that there would be no more than 150 advanced civilizations within our galaxy - and, more likely, we are completely alone in our galaxy."
16 November 2016 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and then they end up in this:
"Enrico Fermi, a prominent nuclear physicist of the last century, asked the question, "Where are they? Shouldn't their presence be obvious?" Given at least 10 billion years for the existence of the Milky Way galaxy, one would think that intelligence would have developed before now - if life were common in the universe. Even at slow interstellar speeds, humans with advanced rocketry skills might be able to explore the galaxy in a few tens of million years. Some have suggested that aliens would choose not to reveal themselves to us. However, Frank Drake estimated that at least 10,000 advanced civilizations exist in the Milky Way. Carl Sagan raised the estimate to 1,000,000. Would all those civilizations stay at home or choose to conceal themselves from us? It seems highly unlikely. It would seem more likely that they do not exist."
(reverced psychology as well)
"Enrico Fermi, a prominent nuclear physicist of the last century, asked the question, "Where are they? Shouldn't their presence be obvious?" Given at least 10 billion years for the existence of the Milky Way galaxy, one would think that intelligence would have developed before now - if life were common in the universe. Even at slow interstellar speeds, humans with advanced rocketry skills might be able to explore the galaxy in a few tens of million years. Some have suggested that aliens would choose not to reveal themselves to us. However, Frank Drake estimated that at least 10,000 advanced civilizations exist in the Milky Way. Carl Sagan raised the estimate to 1,000,000. Would all those civilizations stay at home or choose to conceal themselves from us? It seems highly unlikely. It would seem more likely that they do not exist."
(reverced psychology as well)
16 November 2016 03:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and they call that intelligent, calculate life based on math.... come god help them to realization that math has nothing to do with it:
The Drake Equation (named for Frank Drake, the originator of the equation) is a way to estimate how many intelligent extraterrestrial civilizations might inhabit our galaxy. Below is the Drake Equation:
N = R* x fs x fp x nE x fl x fi x fc x L
R* = average star formation rate
fs = fraction of "suitable" stars capable of supporting a habitable planet.
fp = fraction of suitable stars with planets.
nE = average number of "Earth-like" planets.
fl = average fraction of Earth-like planets with life.
fi = average fraction of life-bearing planets evolving at least one intelligent species.
fc = average fraction of planets with intelligent civilizations capable of interstellar communication.
L = average lifetime that a civilization remains technologically active and will use radio communication.
These are the values based upon the most recent astronomical data:
Parameter Optimistic Pessimistic
R* 10 3
fs 0.02 0.01
fp 0.75 0.1
nE 0.01 0.00001
fl 1.0 0.00001
fi 0.0001 0.000001
fc 1.0 0.1
L 1,000,000,000 10,000,000
Total
150 0
The Drake Equation (named for Frank Drake, the originator of the equation) is a way to estimate how many intelligent extraterrestrial civilizations might inhabit our galaxy. Below is the Drake Equation:
N = R* x fs x fp x nE x fl x fi x fc x L
R* = average star formation rate
fs = fraction of "suitable" stars capable of supporting a habitable planet.
fp = fraction of suitable stars with planets.
nE = average number of "Earth-like" planets.
fl = average fraction of Earth-like planets with life.
fi = average fraction of life-bearing planets evolving at least one intelligent species.
fc = average fraction of planets with intelligent civilizations capable of interstellar communication.
L = average lifetime that a civilization remains technologically active and will use radio communication.
These are the values based upon the most recent astronomical data:
Parameter Optimistic Pessimistic
R* 10 3
fs 0.02 0.01
fp 0.75 0.1
nE 0.01 0.00001
fl 1.0 0.00001
fi 0.0001 0.000001
fc 1.0 0.1
L 1,000,000,000 10,000,000
Total
150 0
16 November 2016 03:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
if webside already starts like that, they can not be real, and show, they propacanda, manipulate or most likelly not know:
"Have alien intelligences from other parts of the universe visited the earth? This page is an attempt to rationally look at the issue of UFO's and extraterrestrials. Within the last few years, scientists have gained considerable knowledge about the universe so that the question of extraterrestrial visitations can be addressed from a scientific, rational perspective."
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/ufo.html
"Have alien intelligences from other parts of the universe visited the earth? This page is an attempt to rationally look at the issue of UFO's and extraterrestrials. Within the last few years, scientists have gained considerable knowledge about the universe so that the question of extraterrestrial visitations can be addressed from a scientific, rational perspective."
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/ufo.html
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/ufo.html
16 November 2016 03:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nii nendega läheb kes ei teamis ootab ees.. riskides. selleasemel, et teada..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c8jMnkIYUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c8jMnkIYUc
16 November 2016 03:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
...
sedasi, muusikaly muusika: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n2AlixaFc0
(mite, et sona doleks õiged, kuid edasi viivad, kuid see mis ka inimesed, inimesi juhendab...)
//for future media,
sedasi, muusikaly muusika: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n2AlixaFc0
(mite, et sona doleks õiged, kuid edasi viivad, kuid see mis ka inimesed, inimesi juhendab...)
//for future media,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n2AlixaFc0
16 November 2016 03:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDM5EWieJzg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDM5EWieJzg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDM5EWieJzg
16 November 2016 03:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
16 November 2016 03:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
16 November 2016 03:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
looks like scull and bones, if you look at that logo now, innit,
whit one eye, as it is .. u know.. the ones giving other eye away.. true pirate logo
whit one eye, as it is .. u know.. the ones giving other eye away.. true pirate logo
16 November 2016 03:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
16 November 2016 03:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://galacticwars.wordpress.com/2013/02/10/andromeda-council-all-you-need-to-know-about-aliens/comment-page-1/
https://galacticwars.wordpress.com/2013/02/10/andromeda-council-all-you-need-to-know-about-aliens/comment-page-1/
16 November 2016 03:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
in same time another dimension
Case study
We'll be using the Captain Rogers: Battle at Andromeda...
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Games/Techniques/Control_mechanisms
Case study
We'll be using the Captain Rogers: Battle at Andromeda...
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Games/Techniques/Control_mechanisms
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Games/Techniques/Control_mechanisms
16 November 2016 03:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lets multiply all these durations by a billion:
Magnitudes:
Minute:
L1 cache reference 0.5 s One heart beat (0.5 s)
Branch mispredict 5 s Yawn
L2 cache reference 7 s Long yawn
Mutex lock/unlock 25 s Making a coffee
Hour:
Main memory reference 100 s Brushing your teeth
Compress 1K bytes with Zippy 50 min One episode of a TV show (including ad breaks)
Day:
Send 2K bytes over 1 Gbps network 5.5 hr From lunch to end of work day
Week
SSD random read 1.7 days A normal weekend
Read 1 MB sequentially from memory 2.9 days A long weekend
Round trip within same datacenter 5.8 days A medium vacation
Read 1 MB sequentially from SSD 11.6 days Waiting for almost 2 weeks for a delivery
Year
Disk seek 16.5 weeks A semester in university
Read 1 MB sequentially from disk 7.8 months Almost producing a new human being
The above 2 together 1 year
Decade
Send packet CA->Netherlands->CA 4.8 years Average time it takes to complete a bachelor's degree
Magnitudes:
Minute:
L1 cache reference 0.5 s One heart beat (0.5 s)
Branch mispredict 5 s Yawn
L2 cache reference 7 s Long yawn
Mutex lock/unlock 25 s Making a coffee
Hour:
Main memory reference 100 s Brushing your teeth
Compress 1K bytes with Zippy 50 min One episode of a TV show (including ad breaks)
Day:
Send 2K bytes over 1 Gbps network 5.5 hr From lunch to end of work day
Week
SSD random read 1.7 days A normal weekend
Read 1 MB sequentially from memory 2.9 days A long weekend
Round trip within same datacenter 5.8 days A medium vacation
Read 1 MB sequentially from SSD 11.6 days Waiting for almost 2 weeks for a delivery
Year
Disk seek 16.5 weeks A semester in university
Read 1 MB sequentially from disk 7.8 months Almost producing a new human being
The above 2 together 1 year
Decade
Send packet CA->Netherlands->CA 4.8 years Average time it takes to complete a bachelor's degree
16 November 2016 03:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
16 November 2016 03:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
back online, got quote also, thinking again.. how fast , in memory working things can beat and do whatver is needed before slow workers of whatever good controls wnat to see and test something, for public show:
“Disk is about a bazillion times slower than memory, and the network is about a bazillion times slower than that.”
— Nolan Lawson
“Disk is about a bazillion times slower than memory, and the network is about a bazillion times slower than that.”
— Nolan Lawson
16 November 2016 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
16 November 2016 02:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as i added it to torch browser , not chrome.. but yea, the topic is still about Communism and Goodle. Alphabet settings and glbal domination
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as remeber, even mozilla Core, desings is around pentagram
http://planet.mozilla.org/projects/ , just near best and elitest
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"Most library authors I know tend to prefer Browserify for building JavaScript modules, but especially with the rise of React and Flux, Webpack is increasingly becoming a popular option." - does people know potentials and reasons of this where it leads..
https://nolanlawson.com/page/2/
sift away..
",... This whole situation I’ve described above is bad enough, but once you add ES6 to the mix, it gets even more complicated. ES6 modules are the “future-proof” way of authoring JavaScript, but as it stands, there are very few tools that can consume ES6 directly, including most versions of Node.
(Yes, even if you are using Node 4.x with its many lovely ES6 features like Promises and arrow functions, there are still some missing features, like spread arguments and destructuring, that are not supported by V8 yet.)....
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as remeber, even mozilla Core, desings is around pentagram
http://planet.mozilla.org/projects/ , just near best and elitest
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"Most library authors I know tend to prefer Browserify for building JavaScript modules, but especially with the rise of React and Flux, Webpack is increasingly becoming a popular option." - does people know potentials and reasons of this where it leads..
https://nolanlawson.com/page/2/
sift away..
",... This whole situation I’ve described above is bad enough, but once you add ES6 to the mix, it gets even more complicated. ES6 modules are the “future-proof” way of authoring JavaScript, but as it stands, there are very few tools that can consume ES6 directly, including most versions of Node.
(Yes, even if you are using Node 4.x with its many lovely ES6 features like Promises and arrow functions, there are still some missing features, like spread arguments and destructuring, that are not supported by V8 yet.)....
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16 November 2016 02:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
16 November 2016 02:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
abit offtopic in a way, (but not really,in future...at least we quit popups..and RSS..), but anyway, about how to keep Web notification on Topic
" Dan Callahan covered the details of adding WebPush to your Web Apps in an article on Hacks early this year. You can also get more documentation on the Push API from MDN or take a look at the ServiceWorker Cookbook for examples of how to use Web Push as well as many other service worker scenarios.
While Web Push has many benefits, it does come with some drawbacks. For example, if you notify an offline user of unread messages, when they come back to the browser later, the user may be inundated with many notifications at once.
notifications-notopic
This can be mitigated a bit on certain operating systems, but a better way is now available. The Mozilla Push Service now offers the capability to provide topics for notification messages. This means that any user agent subscribed to the application will only be provided with the last message in a topic when it returns from an offline state. The Push Service replaces all previous push messages with the same topic and only displays the most recent one. In the example referenced above, all the unread messages are grouped into one topic, and when an offline user opens the browser they only get one message from the topic, which is the last one received.
notifications-bytopic
As this is a change to the WebPush specification, to get this to work you will need to modify the server code that actually pushes the messages to the Push Service. Essentially, you must add a header named “Topic” to the push message. Take a look at my test example for topics on github for a simple example. You can see how the header is added in the pusher/main.py file with the following code:
https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/11/mozilla-push-server-now-supports-topics/
" Dan Callahan covered the details of adding WebPush to your Web Apps in an article on Hacks early this year. You can also get more documentation on the Push API from MDN or take a look at the ServiceWorker Cookbook for examples of how to use Web Push as well as many other service worker scenarios.
While Web Push has many benefits, it does come with some drawbacks. For example, if you notify an offline user of unread messages, when they come back to the browser later, the user may be inundated with many notifications at once.
notifications-notopic
This can be mitigated a bit on certain operating systems, but a better way is now available. The Mozilla Push Service now offers the capability to provide topics for notification messages. This means that any user agent subscribed to the application will only be provided with the last message in a topic when it returns from an offline state. The Push Service replaces all previous push messages with the same topic and only displays the most recent one. In the example referenced above, all the unread messages are grouped into one topic, and when an offline user opens the browser they only get one message from the topic, which is the last one received.
notifications-bytopic
As this is a change to the WebPush specification, to get this to work you will need to modify the server code that actually pushes the messages to the Push Service. Essentially, you must add a header named “Topic” to the push message. Take a look at my test example for topics on github for a simple example. You can see how the header is added in the pusher/main.py file with the following code:
https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/11/mozilla-push-server-now-supports-topics/
https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/11/mozilla-push-server-now-supports-topics/
16 November 2016 02:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" When it comes to machines and computers, just how much do you understand about how they work? Unless you’re a computer programmer or an IT technician, it’s likely that you don’t know enough about these machines to totally "
"Just how safe are you from the technology that you’re dependent upon? While it’s unlikely that you work with battlebots equipped with saw blades and flamethrowers, or that you play traffic roulette with a driverless car, you’ve got a lot riding on your company’s data. In fact, it would take just one major disaster for your system to crash, causing major data loss. This kind of a data loss disaster can potentially ruin a business, and by extension, your livelihood.
A disaster like this can happen at the hands of an incompetent user, an error from an imperfect machine, or even something else entirely, like a random act of nature."
http://www.bevlin.net/blog/a-dark-shadow-is-cast-over-the-good-work-robots-do
"Just how safe are you from the technology that you’re dependent upon? While it’s unlikely that you work with battlebots equipped with saw blades and flamethrowers, or that you play traffic roulette with a driverless car, you’ve got a lot riding on your company’s data. In fact, it would take just one major disaster for your system to crash, causing major data loss. This kind of a data loss disaster can potentially ruin a business, and by extension, your livelihood.
A disaster like this can happen at the hands of an incompetent user, an error from an imperfect machine, or even something else entirely, like a random act of nature."
http://www.bevlin.net/blog/a-dark-shadow-is-cast-over-the-good-work-robots-do
http://www.bevlin.net/blog/a-dark-shadow-is-cast-over-the-good-work-robots-do
16 November 2016 02:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"ServiceWorker is coming. Look busy."
Prerequisites
Browser support
Browser options are growing. Service workers are supported by Firefox and Opera. Microsoft Edge is now showing public support. Even Safari has dropped hints of future development. You can follow the progress of all the browsers at Jake Archibald's is Serviceworker ready site.
You need HTTPS
During development you'll be able to use service worker through localhost, but to deploy it on a site you'll need to have HTTPS setup on your server.
Using service worker you can hijack connections, fabricate, and filter responses. Powerful stuff. While you would use these powers for good, a man-in-the-middle might not. To avoid this, you can only register service workers on pages served over HTTPS, so we know the service worker the browser receives hasn't been tampered with during its journey through the network.
Github Pages are served over HTTPS, so they're a great place to host demos.
If you want to add HTTPS to your server then you'll need to get a TLS certificate and set it up for your server. This varies depending on your setup, so check your server's documentation and be sure to check out Mozilla's SSL config generator for best practices.
https://jakearchibald.github.io/isserviceworkerready/
Prerequisites
Browser support
Browser options are growing. Service workers are supported by Firefox and Opera. Microsoft Edge is now showing public support. Even Safari has dropped hints of future development. You can follow the progress of all the browsers at Jake Archibald's is Serviceworker ready site.
You need HTTPS
During development you'll be able to use service worker through localhost, but to deploy it on a site you'll need to have HTTPS setup on your server.
Using service worker you can hijack connections, fabricate, and filter responses. Powerful stuff. While you would use these powers for good, a man-in-the-middle might not. To avoid this, you can only register service workers on pages served over HTTPS, so we know the service worker the browser receives hasn't been tampered with during its journey through the network.
Github Pages are served over HTTPS, so they're a great place to host demos.
If you want to add HTTPS to your server then you'll need to get a TLS certificate and set it up for your server. This varies depending on your setup, so check your server's documentation and be sure to check out Mozilla's SSL config generator for best practices.
https://jakearchibald.github.io/isserviceworkerready/
https://jakearchibald.github.io/isserviceworkerready/
16 November 2016 02:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
What is a service worker
A service worker is a script that your browser runs in the background,
separate from a web page, opening the door
to features that don't need
a web page or user interaction.
Today, they already include features like push notifications and background sync.
In the future service workers will support other things like periodic sync or geofencing. The core feature discussed in this tutorial is the ability to intercept and handle network requests, including programmatically managing a cache of responses.
The reason this is such an exciting API is that it allows you to support offline experiences,
giving developers complete control over the experience.
--
Before service worker, there was one other API that gave users an offline experience on the web called AppCache. The major issues with AppCache are the number of gotcha's that exist as well as the fact that while the design works particularly well for single page web apps, it's not so good with for multi-page sites. Service workers have been designed to avoid these common pain points.
Things to note about a service worker:
It's a JavaScript Worker, so it can't access the DOM directly. Instead, a service worker can communicate with the pages it controls by responding to messages sent via the postMessage interface, and those pages can manipulate the DOM if needed.
Service worker is a programmable network proxy, allowing you to control how network requests from your page are handled.
It's terminated when not in use, and restarted when it's next needed, so you cannot rely on global state within a service worker's onfetch and onmessage handlers. If there is information that you need to persist and reuse across restarts, service workers do have access to the IndexedDB API.
Service workers make extensive use of promises, so if you're new to promises, then you should stop reading this and check out Promises, an introduction.
The service worker life cycle
A service worker has a lifecycle that is completely separate from your web page.
To install a service worker for your site, you need to register it, which you do in your page's JavaScript. Registering a service worker will cause the browser to start the service worker install step in the background.
Typically during the install step, you'll want to cache some static assets. If all the files are cached successfully, then the service worker becomes installed. If any of the files fail to download and cache, then the install step will fail and the service worker won't activate (i.e. won't be installed). If that happens, don't worry, it'll try again next time. But that means if it does install, you know you've got those static assets in the cache.
When we're installed, the activation step will follow and this is a great opportunity for handling any management of old caches, which we'll cover during the service worker update section.
After the activation step, the service worker will control all pages that fall under its scope, though the page that registered the service worker for the first time won't be controlled until it's loaded again. Once a service worker is in control, it will be in one of two states: either the service worker will be terminated to save memory, or it will handle fetch and message events that occur when a network request or message is made from your page.
Below is an overly simplified version of the service worker lifecycle on its first installation.
https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/getting-started/primers/service-workers
A service worker is a script that your browser runs in the background,
separate from a web page, opening the door
to features that don't need
a web page or user interaction.
Today, they already include features like push notifications and background sync.
In the future service workers will support other things like periodic sync or geofencing. The core feature discussed in this tutorial is the ability to intercept and handle network requests, including programmatically managing a cache of responses.
The reason this is such an exciting API is that it allows you to support offline experiences,
giving developers complete control over the experience.
--
Before service worker, there was one other API that gave users an offline experience on the web called AppCache. The major issues with AppCache are the number of gotcha's that exist as well as the fact that while the design works particularly well for single page web apps, it's not so good with for multi-page sites. Service workers have been designed to avoid these common pain points.
Things to note about a service worker:
It's a JavaScript Worker, so it can't access the DOM directly. Instead, a service worker can communicate with the pages it controls by responding to messages sent via the postMessage interface, and those pages can manipulate the DOM if needed.
Service worker is a programmable network proxy, allowing you to control how network requests from your page are handled.
It's terminated when not in use, and restarted when it's next needed, so you cannot rely on global state within a service worker's onfetch and onmessage handlers. If there is information that you need to persist and reuse across restarts, service workers do have access to the IndexedDB API.
Service workers make extensive use of promises, so if you're new to promises, then you should stop reading this and check out Promises, an introduction.
The service worker life cycle
A service worker has a lifecycle that is completely separate from your web page.
To install a service worker for your site, you need to register it, which you do in your page's JavaScript. Registering a service worker will cause the browser to start the service worker install step in the background.
Typically during the install step, you'll want to cache some static assets. If all the files are cached successfully, then the service worker becomes installed. If any of the files fail to download and cache, then the install step will fail and the service worker won't activate (i.e. won't be installed). If that happens, don't worry, it'll try again next time. But that means if it does install, you know you've got those static assets in the cache.
When we're installed, the activation step will follow and this is a great opportunity for handling any management of old caches, which we'll cover during the service worker update section.
After the activation step, the service worker will control all pages that fall under its scope, though the page that registered the service worker for the first time won't be controlled until it's loaded again. Once a service worker is in control, it will be in one of two states: either the service worker will be terminated to save memory, or it will handle fetch and message events that occur when a network request or message is made from your page.
Below is an overly simplified version of the service worker lifecycle on its first installation.
https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/getting-started/primers/service-workers
https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/getting-started/primers/service-workers
16 November 2016 02:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
these options also.. like u can go so far to delete but not see, why not to extend all locations of browser... okey this is a bit unreasonable request but still, would show now closed ends .
Not that them Really would be as the ones who work with it hae oteh tools anyway.. .but just the philosophy is important , that you TRY to make open ends,
for gowing humanaty
Not that them Really would be as the ones who work with it hae oteh tools anyway.. .but just the philosophy is important , that you TRY to make open ends,
for gowing humanaty
16 November 2016 02:08
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16 November 2016 01:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So and finally, last but not last:
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Browser-based controls
Cookie settings
Cookies are a vital piece of technology in your browser, allowing websites to make your Internet experience better. For example, when you set a default language on a website, cookies help the site remember your choice.
You can block some or all cookies, but this can cause certain features across the Web to stop working. For example, many websites require cookies to be turned on when you want to sign in.
Here's how to access cookie settings for Google Chrome:
Click the Chrome menu icon Chrome menu.
Select Settings.
Near the bottom of the page, click Show advanced settings.
In the "Privacy" section, click Content settings.
A dialog will appear - you can review your settings under the first section, labeled "Cookies".
Google Analytics
Website owners use data collected by Google Analytics to make their sites work better. However, you can opt out of this data collection by downloading and installing an add-on for your browser.
DOWNLOAD THE BROWSER ADD-ON
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Browser-based controls
Cookie settings
Cookies are a vital piece of technology in your browser, allowing websites to make your Internet experience better. For example, when you set a default language on a website, cookies help the site remember your choice.
You can block some or all cookies, but this can cause certain features across the Web to stop working. For example, many websites require cookies to be turned on when you want to sign in.
Here's how to access cookie settings for Google Chrome:
Click the Chrome menu icon Chrome menu.
Select Settings.
Near the bottom of the page, click Show advanced settings.
In the "Privacy" section, click Content settings.
A dialog will appear - you can review your settings under the first section, labeled "Cookies".
Google Analytics
Website owners use data collected by Google Analytics to make their sites work better. However, you can opt out of this data collection by downloading and installing an add-on for your browser.
DOWNLOAD THE BROWSER ADD-ON
16 November 2016 01:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey they allowed it there at least (prooving they before did not work on... "accident" more likelly, okey,m i know, not nessesarily related at all, ... as if it would not work, would still add up to the same, anotherway )
Now:
YouTube customization
Control whether or not your YouTube experience is affected by YouTube search and watch activity in this browser.
Videos you watch on YouTube
YouTube is not using videos you've watched to improve your recommendations. By turning this feature on, your watch activity will be stored and used to provide improved recommendations.
Videos you search for on YouTube
YouTube is not using your search activity to improve your recommendations. By turning this feature on, your search activity will be stored and used to provide improved recommendations.
Now:
YouTube customization
Control whether or not your YouTube experience is affected by YouTube search and watch activity in this browser.
Videos you watch on YouTube
YouTube is not using videos you've watched to improve your recommendations. By turning this feature on, your watch activity will be stored and used to provide improved recommendations.
Videos you search for on YouTube
YouTube is not using your search activity to improve your recommendations. By turning this feature on, your search activity will be stored and used to provide improved recommendations.
16 November 2016 01:29
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16 November 2016 01:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey lets go to Youtube :
YouTube customization
Control whether or not your YouTube experience is affected by YouTube search and watch activity in this browser.
Videos you watch on YouTube
YouTube uses videos you've watched to improve your recommendations. By turning this feature off, your watch activity will be deleted and future video views will not be used to provide improved recommendations.
Videos you search for on YouTube
YouTube uses your search activity to improve your recommendations. By turning this feature off, your search activity will be deleted and future searches on YouTube will not be used to provide improved recommendations.
YouTube customization
Control whether or not your YouTube experience is affected by YouTube search and watch activity in this browser.
Videos you watch on YouTube
YouTube uses videos you've watched to improve your recommendations. By turning this feature off, your watch activity will be deleted and future video views will not be used to provide improved recommendations.
Videos you search for on YouTube
YouTube uses your search activity to improve your recommendations. By turning this feature off, your search activity will be deleted and future searches on YouTube will not be used to provide improved recommendations.
16 November 2016 01:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
f facists
16 November 2016 01:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lets try more: "This opt-out may not occur instantaneously""
"You will still see ads
The ads you see will be less relevant
You will not see ads related to factors such as your interests and previous visits to other websites (remarketing)
The ads may be based on your general location (such as city or state) or the current page or app you are looking at
This opt-out only applies to ads shown in this browser. Ads shown in other browsers or apps on this device may still be based on your interests. If you delete your cookies, this opt-out will be erased.
This opt-out may not occur instantaneously"
"You will still see ads
The ads you see will be less relevant
You will not see ads related to factors such as your interests and previous visits to other websites (remarketing)
The ads may be based on your general location (such as city or state) or the current page or app you are looking at
This opt-out only applies to ads shown in this browser. Ads shown in other browsers or apps on this device may still be based on your interests. If you delete your cookies, this opt-out will be erased.
This opt-out may not occur instantaneously"
16 November 2016 01:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
16 November 2016 01:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
You will still see ads
The ads you see will be less relevant
You will not see ads related to factors such as your interests and previous visits to other websites (remarketing)
The ads may be based on your general location (such as city or state) or the current page or app you are looking at
This opt-out only applies to ads shown in this browser. Ads shown in other browsers or apps on this device may still be based on your interests. If you delete your cookies, this opt-out will be erased.
This opt-out may not occur instantaneously
CANCEL
SWITCH OFF
The ads you see will be less relevant
You will not see ads related to factors such as your interests and previous visits to other websites (remarketing)
The ads may be based on your general location (such as city or state) or the current page or app you are looking at
This opt-out only applies to ads shown in this browser. Ads shown in other browsers or apps on this device may still be based on your interests. If you delete your cookies, this opt-out will be erased.
This opt-out may not occur instantaneously
CANCEL
SWITCH OFF
16 November 2016 01:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
You can control the ads that are delivered to you based on anonymous information by editing these settings. These ads will more likely be useful and relevant to you and your Google services, such as search.
Google Search Ads based on your interests
ON
With Ads based on your interests ON With Ads based on your interests OFF
Ads will be more relevant by considering your prior searches and you may see fewer ads
Ads you see are more likely to be about products and services you have previously searched for
Ads may be more appropriate for your age and gender based on anonymous demographic details
You will still see ads
The ads will be less relevant to you
An advertiser can’t factor into their ads your previous visits to their website (search remarketing)
Ads based on your interests on websites beyond google.com
ON
With Ads based on your interests ON With Ads based on your interests OFF
You can mute some ads that you don’t want to see
You may see ads related to factors such as your interests and previous visits to other websites (remarketing)
The ads may be based on anonymous demographic details such as age and gender
The ads may be based on your general location (such as city or state) or the current page or app you are looking at
You will still see ads
The ads will be less relevant to you
You will be opted-out of interest based ads that are part of the Google Display Network and Google ads that are based on visits to advertiser websites (remarketing)
The ads may be based on your general location (such as city or state) or the current page or app you are looking at
DONE
Google Search Ads based on your interests
ON
With Ads based on your interests ON With Ads based on your interests OFF
Ads will be more relevant by considering your prior searches and you may see fewer ads
Ads you see are more likely to be about products and services you have previously searched for
Ads may be more appropriate for your age and gender based on anonymous demographic details
You will still see ads
The ads will be less relevant to you
An advertiser can’t factor into their ads your previous visits to their website (search remarketing)
Ads based on your interests on websites beyond google.com
ON
With Ads based on your interests ON With Ads based on your interests OFF
You can mute some ads that you don’t want to see
You may see ads related to factors such as your interests and previous visits to other websites (remarketing)
The ads may be based on anonymous demographic details such as age and gender
The ads may be based on your general location (such as city or state) or the current page or app you are looking at
You will still see ads
The ads will be less relevant to you
You will be opted-out of interest based ads that are part of the Google Display Network and Google ads that are based on visits to advertiser websites (remarketing)
The ads may be based on your general location (such as city or state) or the current page or app you are looking at
DONE
16 November 2016 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Search customization
Signed-out search activity is on
Your searches on google.ee from this browser are being used to help Google offer more relevant results and recommendations.
Tip: When you sign in with your Google Account, you can control what’s saved to your account and manage past searches.
vs.
Search customization
Signed-out search activity is off
Get more relevant results and recommendations by using past searches on Google from this browser.
Tip: When you sign in with your Google Account, you can control what’s saved to your account and manage past searches.
Signed-out search activity is on
Your searches on google.ee from this browser are being used to help Google offer more relevant results and recommendations.
Tip: When you sign in with your Google Account, you can control what’s saved to your account and manage past searches.
vs.
Search customization
Signed-out search activity is off
Get more relevant results and recommendations by using past searches on Google from this browser.
Tip: When you sign in with your Google Account, you can control what’s saved to your account and manage past searches.
16 November 2016 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Other options
There are many privacy controls you can use, even when you're signed out, to get the Google experience you want.
Google Search customization
Control whether or not search results are affected by search activity in this browser
EDIT SETTINGS
Ads settings
Adjust the types of ads you see from Google
EDIT SETTINGS
YouTube customization
Control whether or not your YouTube experience is affected by YouTube search and watch activity in this browser
EDIT SETTINGS
Browser-based controls
Manage how your browser uses cookies or sends data to services like Google Analytics
EDIT SETTINGS
Manage your Google privacy controls any time at myaccount.google.com.
There are many privacy controls you can use, even when you're signed out, to get the Google experience you want.
Google Search customization
Control whether or not search results are affected by search activity in this browser
EDIT SETTINGS
Ads settings
Adjust the types of ads you see from Google
EDIT SETTINGS
YouTube customization
Control whether or not your YouTube experience is affected by YouTube search and watch activity in this browser
EDIT SETTINGS
Browser-based controls
Manage how your browser uses cookies or sends data to services like Google Analytics
EDIT SETTINGS
Manage your Google privacy controls any time at myaccount.google.com.
16 November 2016 01:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just in case:
A privacy reminder from YouTube, a Google company
Scroll down and click “I agree” when you’re ready to continue to YouTube, or explore other options on this page.
Data we process when you use Google
When you search for a restaurant on Google Maps or watch a video on YouTube, for example, we process information about that activity - including information like the video you watched, device IDs, IP addresses, cookie data, and location.
We also process the kinds of information described above when you use apps or sites that use Google services like ads, Analytics, and the YouTube video player.
Why we process it
We process this data for the purposes described in our policy, including to:
Help our services deliver more useful, customized content such as more relevant search results;
Improve the quality of our services and develop new ones;
Deliver ads based on your interests, including things like searches you've done or videos you've watched on YouTube;
Improve security by protecting against fraud and abuse; and
Conduct analytics and measurement to understand how our services are used.
Combining data
We also combine data among our services and across your devices for these purposes. For example, we use data from trillions of search queries to build spell-correction models that we use across all of our services, and we combine data to alert you and other users to potential security risks.
Learn how Google uses data to improve your experience
When you use Google services like Maps, Search, or YouTube, you generate information: places you go, stuff you like, and people you know. This information can help make Google products work better for you in many ways.
Decide how your data is used
You enjoy these benefits of a tailored Google experience because of technology like cookies (small pieces of data that help websites remember previous visits) and other data based on things you do (for example, things you've searched for or videos you've watched).
But remember, you can control how Google uses this information. You can turn off your YouTube and Search history and opt out of seeing ads based on your interests. And you can learn how to manage cookies.
And of course, you can always sign in to your Google Account if you want to review and use all the tools and controls we offer to help you control your online experience.
More information
Visit www.google.com/policies to learn more about the technologies we use to deliver our services (for example, how Google uses cookies), and how specific Google services process data.
Manage your Google privacy controls any time at myaccount.google.com.
Tip: If you sign in to your Google Account before agreeing, we'll remember your choice across all of your signed-in devices and browsers.
A privacy reminder from YouTube, a Google company
Scroll down and click “I agree” when you’re ready to continue to YouTube, or explore other options on this page.
Data we process when you use Google
When you search for a restaurant on Google Maps or watch a video on YouTube, for example, we process information about that activity - including information like the video you watched, device IDs, IP addresses, cookie data, and location.
We also process the kinds of information described above when you use apps or sites that use Google services like ads, Analytics, and the YouTube video player.
Why we process it
We process this data for the purposes described in our policy, including to:
Help our services deliver more useful, customized content such as more relevant search results;
Improve the quality of our services and develop new ones;
Deliver ads based on your interests, including things like searches you've done or videos you've watched on YouTube;
Improve security by protecting against fraud and abuse; and
Conduct analytics and measurement to understand how our services are used.
Combining data
We also combine data among our services and across your devices for these purposes. For example, we use data from trillions of search queries to build spell-correction models that we use across all of our services, and we combine data to alert you and other users to potential security risks.
Learn how Google uses data to improve your experience
When you use Google services like Maps, Search, or YouTube, you generate information: places you go, stuff you like, and people you know. This information can help make Google products work better for you in many ways.
Decide how your data is used
You enjoy these benefits of a tailored Google experience because of technology like cookies (small pieces of data that help websites remember previous visits) and other data based on things you do (for example, things you've searched for or videos you've watched).
But remember, you can control how Google uses this information. You can turn off your YouTube and Search history and opt out of seeing ads based on your interests. And you can learn how to manage cookies.
And of course, you can always sign in to your Google Account if you want to review and use all the tools and controls we offer to help you control your online experience.
More information
Visit www.google.com/policies to learn more about the technologies we use to deliver our services (for example, how Google uses cookies), and how specific Google services process data.
Manage your Google privacy controls any time at myaccount.google.com.
Tip: If you sign in to your Google Account before agreeing, we'll remember your choice across all of your signed-in devices and browsers.
http://www.google.com/policies
16 November 2016 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
16 November 2016 00:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
16 November 2016 00:33
Margus Meigo commented on Assar Järvekülg's post.
Group: Vasakpoolne liikumine
jupu soov on ju iseenesest õige, jid tuleb vaadata ka ikka kes räägib, ja eelkoige ise seda arvestada15 November 2016 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on Assar Järvekülg's post.
Group: Vasakpoolne liikumine
isekannab lipsu, punast ka veel, on kiilakas ja ei imestaks kui vee Luteri poolset kurjami Luhteri poolset usku toetab ja mudkui vahvatab15 November 2016 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on Massimo Bernardotti's post.
Well,
this might also be Russian warning, in parallel, showing Trump that because trump bring some fighters more near to Baltic's that Russia Does Not Like,
but most likelly it is co-operation to keep most public believing. like pentagrams would be in a "cold war" while it is good for Russia, while the president they promise to elect iin top n usa s
this might also be Russian warning, in parallel, showing Trump that because trump bring some fighters more near to Baltic's that Russia Does Not Like,
but most likelly it is co-operation to keep most public believing. like pentagrams would be in a "cold war" while it is good for Russia, while the president they promise to elect iin top n usa s
15 November 2016 10:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Where is that news where Twitter and Facebook send trump and instructions about social media..
15 November 2016 07:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://fortune.com/2016/05/31/trump-twitter-account/
http://fortune.com/2016/05/31/trump-twitter-account/
15 November 2016 07:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/trump-love-twitter-and-facebook-goes-unrequited.html
15 November 2016 07:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Helped to win, but: http://mashable.com/2016/10/30/donald-trump-twitter-google-facebook-media-tweet/#F5u7zebNBkqk
http://mashable.com/2016/10/30/donald-trump-twitter-google-facebook-media-tweet/#F5u7zebNBkqk
15 November 2016 07:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/11/11/did-fake-news-on-facebook-send-trump-to-the-white-house/
http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/11/11/did-fake-news-on-facebook-send-trump-to-the-white-house/
15 November 2016 07:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/10/social-media-did-a-better-job-at-predicting-trumps-win-than-the-polls/
https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/10/social-media-did-a-better-job-at-predicting-trumps-win-than-the-polls/
15 November 2016 07:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
www.bbc.com/news/technology-37946713
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37946713
15 November 2016 07:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
maybe is about it,
http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/13/13619148/trump-facebook-twitter-helped-win
http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/13/13619148/trump-facebook-twitter-helped-win
http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/13/13619148/trump-facebook-twitter-helped-win
15 November 2016 07:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
14 November 2016 22:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.nidcr.nih.gov/oralhealth/Topics/Fluoride/TheStoryofFluoridation.htm
http://www.nidcr.nih.gov/oralhealth/Topics/Fluoride/TheStoryofFluoridation.htm
14 November 2016 12:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.fluoridation.com/atomicbomb.htm
http://www.fluoridation.com/atomicbomb.htm
14 November 2016 12:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Red tie and everything..
14 November 2016 12:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
umbes nagu "jooksed väga kiirsti, peaksid kirjanikuks hakkama"
14 November 2016 02:26
Margus Meigo replied to Anne-Mari Anderson's comment.
eriti peale rasputini't
14 November 2016 02:15
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
samas, loodus on nagu loodu's on
14 November 2016 02:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
lol, they send police to protect a protesters who fight against a police
what a world
what a world
14 November 2016 00:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as long trump does not eliminate all crap mass media and crap production, he is just serving MORE of the elite and establishment then Hillary ever could
14 November 2016 00:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
potential was greater for usa in long run, as USA could have been entire human species evolution direction changer , but looking many on Hillary side, it seems, them self also was not ready, for really doing something what would have been worth while, outside liberal direction (mystically there was potential that She can make sift that takes people AWAY from Liberal direction, greatest chance, this is why am support most of all....as after certain kind of action comes reaction or accelerated action,, kind of like if you screw, bottle to close so hard that it will newer be possible to be closed, as screwing part will be broken, .. but just before it broke it was on the way of being closed well, and then in same direction going opposite happened ... same can be with politics and world history. . )
14 November 2016 00:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
overreacted a bit,
Yah not as good as it can be but not as bad as it sounds, as long he does at least half what he promise, will be ok,.. as you know, usa president is not just usa president, is more and more of the global president, in near future all the world can participate in USA election, i assume this direction is possible.
Yah not as good as it can be but not as bad as it sounds, as long he does at least half what he promise, will be ok,.. as you know, usa president is not just usa president, is more and more of the global president, in near future all the world can participate in USA election, i assume this direction is possible.
13 November 2016 23:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
13 November 2016 17:58
Margus Meigo replied to Yeshua Ben David's comment.
insha'Allah
13 November 2016 14:29
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
mul see asi raskendatud jah, pean nad vist koju kutsuma,
ise temaga eriti liikuda kuskile ei saa.
sest mul töö mis liikuda ei lase järgmise paari aasta jooksul eriti
ise temaga eriti liikuda kuskile ei saa.
sest mul töö mis liikuda ei lase järgmise paari aasta jooksul eriti
13 November 2016 00:07
Margus Meigo replied to Laisy Säde Deming's comment.
kurgus kindlasti misit pole, nüüd lihtsalt sutsu viliseb kui magab
13 November 2016 00:05
Margus Meigo replied to Laisy Säde Deming's comment.
nina on kuiv jah
13 November 2016 00:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Of-course, communist minded bbc writes "US troops watch a Russian soldier with a female FRIEND in Berlin"
and
"It's hard to find direct evidence of how the German soldiers treated Russian women - many victims never survived - but in the German-Russian Museum in Berlin, director Jorg Morre shows me a photograph taken in Crimea from a German soldier's personal wartime album. A woman's corpse is sprawled on the ground"
and
"The Wehrmacht was supposedly a well-ordered force of Aryans who would never contemplate sex with untermenschen.
But the ban was ignored, says Oleg Budnitsky, a historian at the Higher School of Economics in Moscow. Nazi commanders were in fact so concerned about venereal disease that they established a chain of military brothels throughout the occupied territories."
and
"It's hard to find direct evidence of how the German soldiers treated Russian women - many victims never survived - but in the German-Russian Museum in Berlin, director Jorg Morre shows me a photograph taken in Crimea from a German soldier's personal wartime album. A woman's corpse is sprawled on the ground"
and
"The Wehrmacht was supposedly a well-ordered force of Aryans who would never contemplate sex with untermenschen.
But the ban was ignored, says Oleg Budnitsky, a historian at the Higher School of Economics in Moscow. Nazi commanders were in fact so concerned about venereal disease that they established a chain of military brothels throughout the occupied territories."
12 November 2016 22:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
In Soviet, "FUN" is gang rape of children and elders to their death?
"Against this horrific background, Stalin and his commanders condoned or even justified rape, not only against Germans but also their allies in Hungary, Romania and Croatia. When the Yugoslav Communist Milovan Djilas protested to Stalin, the dictator exploded: "Can't he understand it if a soldier who has crossed thousands of kilometres through blood and fire and death has fun with a woman or takes some trifle?"
And when German Communists warned him that the rapes were turning the population against them, Stalin fumed: "I will not allow anyone to drag the reputation of the Red Army in the mud."
The rapes had begun as soon as the Red Army entered East Prussia and Silesia in 1944. In many towns and villages every female, aged from 10 to 80, was raped. Alexander Solzhenitsyn, the Nobel laureate who was then a young officer, described the horror in his narrative poem Prussian Nights: "The little daughter's on the mattress,/Dead. How many have been on it/A platoon, a company perhaps?"
But Solzhenitsyn was rare: most of his comrades regarded rape as legitimate. As the offensive struck deep into Germany, the orders of Marshal Zhukov, their commander, stated: "Woe to the land of the murderers. We will get a terrible revenge for everything."
"Against this horrific background, Stalin and his commanders condoned or even justified rape, not only against Germans but also their allies in Hungary, Romania and Croatia. When the Yugoslav Communist Milovan Djilas protested to Stalin, the dictator exploded: "Can't he understand it if a soldier who has crossed thousands of kilometres through blood and fire and death has fun with a woman or takes some trifle?"
And when German Communists warned him that the rapes were turning the population against them, Stalin fumed: "I will not allow anyone to drag the reputation of the Red Army in the mud."
The rapes had begun as soon as the Red Army entered East Prussia and Silesia in 1944. In many towns and villages every female, aged from 10 to 80, was raped. Alexander Solzhenitsyn, the Nobel laureate who was then a young officer, described the horror in his narrative poem Prussian Nights: "The little daughter's on the mattress,/Dead. How many have been on it/A platoon, a company perhaps?"
But Solzhenitsyn was rare: most of his comrades regarded rape as legitimate. As the offensive struck deep into Germany, the orders of Marshal Zhukov, their commander, stated: "Woe to the land of the murderers. We will get a terrible revenge for everything."
12 November 2016 22:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The fact, highlighted by Beevor, that Soviet troops raped not only Germans but also their victims, recently liberated from concentration camps, suggests that the sexual violence was often indiscriminate, although far fewer Russian or Polish women were raped when their areas were liberated compared to the conquered Germans.
Jews, however, were not necessarily regarded by Soviet troops as fellow victims of the Nazis. The Soviet commissars had commandeered German concentration camps in order to incarcerate their own political prisoners, who included "class enemies" as well as Nazi officials, and their attitude towards the previous inmates was, to say the least, unsentimental.
The rape of Germany left a bitter legacy. It contributed to the unpopularity of the East German communist regime and its consequent reliance on the Stasi secret police. The victims themselves were permanently traumatised: women of the wartime generation still refer to the Red Army war memorial in Berlin as "the Tomb of the Unknown Rapist".
Jews, however, were not necessarily regarded by Soviet troops as fellow victims of the Nazis. The Soviet commissars had commandeered German concentration camps in order to incarcerate their own political prisoners, who included "class enemies" as well as Nazi officials, and their attitude towards the previous inmates was, to say the least, unsentimental.
The rape of Germany left a bitter legacy. It contributed to the unpopularity of the East German communist regime and its consequent reliance on the Stasi secret police. The victims themselves were permanently traumatised: women of the wartime generation still refer to the Red Army war memorial in Berlin as "the Tomb of the Unknown Rapist".
12 November 2016 22:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
""The captured German female cats declared they were avenging their dead husbands," he writes. "They must be destroyed without mercy. Our soldiers suggest stabbing them through their genitals but I would just execute them.""
"As for the millions of Russian prisoners or slave workers who survived the Nazis: those who were not executed as traitors or sent to the Gulag could count themselves lucky. The women among them were probably treated no better than the Germans, perhaps worse."
"As for the millions of Russian prisoners or slave workers who survived the Nazis: those who were not executed as traitors or sent to the Gulag could count themselves lucky. The women among them were probably treated no better than the Germans, perhaps worse."
12 November 2016 22:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sacred indeed you fuckers ! (well, in this sentence, the word choice for "fuckers" is actually true and positive, not cursing but curse same time, softening form of the actual word..)
"By the time the Russians reached Berlin, soldiers were regarding women almost as carnal booty; they felt because they were liberating Europe they could behave as they pleased. That is very frightening, because one starts to realise that civilisation is terribly superficial and the facade can be stripped away in a very short time."
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// Why Germans Did Not rape (besides being on higher level of realization of human species)
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"It was not until the winter of 1946-47 that the Soviet authorities, concerned by the spread of disease, imposed serious penalties on their forces in East Germany for fraternising with the enemy.
Soviet soldiers saw rape, often carried out in front of a woman's husband and family, as an appropriate way of humiliating the Germans, who had treated Slavs as an inferior race with whom sexual relations were discouraged. Russia's patriarchal society and the habit of binge-drinking were also factors, but more important was resentment at the discovery of Germany's comparative wealth."
www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32529679
"By the time the Russians reached Berlin, soldiers were regarding women almost as carnal booty; they felt because they were liberating Europe they could behave as they pleased. That is very frightening, because one starts to realise that civilisation is terribly superficial and the facade can be stripped away in a very short time."
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// Why Germans Did Not rape (besides being on higher level of realization of human species)
-
"It was not until the winter of 1946-47 that the Soviet authorities, concerned by the spread of disease, imposed serious penalties on their forces in East Germany for fraternising with the enemy.
Soviet soldiers saw rape, often carried out in front of a woman's husband and family, as an appropriate way of humiliating the Germans, who had treated Slavs as an inferior race with whom sexual relations were discouraged. Russia's patriarchal society and the habit of binge-drinking were also factors, but more important was resentment at the discovery of Germany's comparative wealth."
www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32529679
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32529679
12 November 2016 22:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"sacred war"
Anthem of Soviet Union: 00:08 - 03:34
Let's Go!: 03:34 - 06:56
Kalinka: 06:56 - 11:26
Katyusha: 11:26 - 13:57
There March the Soldiers: 13:57 - 17:41
The Sacred War: 17:41 - 21:16
The Red Army is the Strongest: 21:16 - 24:00
The Cossacks: 24:00 - 26:07
The Cossack Song: 26:07 - 31:18
The Cliff: 31:18 - 37:50
Smugljanka: 37:50 - 41:11
Korobeiniki: 41:11 - 45:49
The Partisans Song: 45:49 - 48:40
March of the Motherland: 48:40 - 51:36
The Hunt for Red October: 51:36 - 56:44
Farewell of Slavianka: 56:44 - 59:15
Anthem of Soviet Union: 00:08 - 03:34
Let's Go!: 03:34 - 06:56
Kalinka: 06:56 - 11:26
Katyusha: 11:26 - 13:57
There March the Soldiers: 13:57 - 17:41
The Sacred War: 17:41 - 21:16
The Red Army is the Strongest: 21:16 - 24:00
The Cossacks: 24:00 - 26:07
The Cossack Song: 26:07 - 31:18
The Cliff: 31:18 - 37:50
Smugljanka: 37:50 - 41:11
Korobeiniki: 41:11 - 45:49
The Partisans Song: 45:49 - 48:40
March of the Motherland: 48:40 - 51:36
The Hunt for Red October: 51:36 - 56:44
Farewell of Slavianka: 56:44 - 59:15
12 November 2016 22:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
9 millionit vaatamist tunni ajalisel muusika videol, see ei ole eriti tavap'rane,
on ainult monede new age asjade puhul kes omi asju meditatsioonidetagataustaks kuulavad ja moned kuulsa bändi albumid kes kymneid millioneid müünud.. kuid tunniajastelajsjadel yle 1+ millioni saada..
// PS pinki ka ikka väga harva kunagi kuulanud ..
on ainult monede new age asjade puhul kes omi asju meditatsioonidetagataustaks kuulavad ja moned kuulsa bändi albumid kes kymneid millioneid müünud.. kuid tunniajastelajsjadel yle 1+ millioni saada..
// PS pinki ka ikka väga harva kunagi kuulanud ..
12 November 2016 22:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja panete tähele, need mis on "reccomended" nendel ei näita ka vaatamiste arvu..
12 November 2016 22:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lihtsalt teades, et EI ole selle teemalisi asjadega tegelenud, ega isegi selle teemalisi asju selle konto alt otsinud, siis misllise arvuti arvutuse pohjal see minule soovitatud saab olla, nüüd siis... ja misk.. seda algorytmi sooviks näha.
Vaevalt et geo ip aint selle tulemuse andis
Vaevalt et geo ip aint selle tulemuse andis
12 November 2016 22:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Et recommended for me?
For turning me on+
For turning me on+
12 November 2016 22:05
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov mida Sa selleall mõtled?
12 November 2016 22:00
Margus Meigo replied to Janar Einula's comment.
:D (Y)
12 November 2016 15:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
John Grigg clearly not, as hitler would have shoot the ones who does not respect woman and speaks dirt
12 November 2016 02:43
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
capitalist... hitler i think is only great leader he has afraid to praise
typical to the ones who are under communist control
https://www.facebook.com/businessinsider/videos/10153962830934071/
typical to the ones who are under communist control
https://www.facebook.com/businessinsider/videos/10153962830934071/
12 November 2016 00:06
Margus Meigo commented on IT Labs's photo.
First time ower long time
11 November 2016 22:26
Margus Meigo replied to Ekkie Garratt's comment.
pentagram, communist symbolic who was by FAR more terrifying and still ongoing human slavery programs, was also made illegal in European Union - EU but people still use it freely.. this is what is truly worrying..
but i guess.. winners decide..
but i guess.. winners decide..
11 November 2016 11:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Möödunud:
Noorsootöötajate õpirände pakkumine Saksamaale: 31oktoober – 6 november 2016.
PAKKUMINE
Narvas ja Kohtla-Järvel
Kutsume Ida-Virumaa noori karjääripäevale “Targalt tulevikku 2016”
Toimumise aeg: 3.11-4.11.2016
http://noored.ee/pakkumised/kuulutused/
Noorsootöötajate õpirände pakkumine Saksamaale: 31oktoober – 6 november 2016.
PAKKUMINE
Narvas ja Kohtla-Järvel
Kutsume Ida-Virumaa noori karjääripäevale “Targalt tulevikku 2016”
Toimumise aeg: 3.11-4.11.2016
http://noored.ee/pakkumised/kuulutused/
11 November 2016 11:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.charlemagneyouthprize.eu/et/introduction.html
http://www.charlemagneyouthprize.eu/et/introduction.html
11 November 2016 10:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://maailm.postimees.ee/v2/3683575/grybauskaite-osaleb-vatikanis-karl-suure-auhinna-ueleandmisel-paavstile
http://maailm.postimees.ee/v2/3683575/grybauskaite-osaleb-vatikanis-karl-suure-auhinna-ueleandmisel-paavstile
11 November 2016 10:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Me @ seccond left, (not politically!)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1987728887436&set=t.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1987728887436&set=t.1135161043&type=3&theater
11 November 2016 10:56
Margus Meigo commented on Eline Bötger's photo.
Did we have good album online from event,
some pictures with anarchists outside perhaps ? :p
some pictures with anarchists outside perhaps ? :p
11 November 2016 10:56
Margus Meigo commented on Ieva Viksne's photo.
Did we have good album from the event online ?
11 November 2016 10:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid tundsin, et pean tundma ja usaldama Sind, kes iganes kolmest, te kõik üks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfI1S0PKJR8
"The chances are we've gone too far"
I feel so extraordinary
Something's got a hold on me
I get this feeling I'm in motion
A sudden sense of liberty
I don't care 'cause I'm not there
And I don't care if I'm here tomorrow
Again and again I've taken too much
Of the things that cost you too much
I used to think that the day would never come
I'd see delight in the shade of the morning sun
My morning sun is the drug that brings me near
To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear
I used to think that the day would never come
That my life would depend on the morning sun
When I was a very small boy
Very small boys talked to me
Now that we've grown up together
They're afraid of what they see
That's the price that we all pay
And the value of destiny comes to nothing
I can't tell you where we're going
I guess there was just no way of knowing
I used to think that the day would never come
I'd see delight in the shade of the morning sun
My morning sun is the drug that brings me near
To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear
I used to think that the day would never come
That my life would depend on the morning sun
I feel so extraordinary
Something's got a hold on me
I get this feeling I'm in motion
A sudden sense of liberty
The chances are we've gone too far
You took my time and you took my money
Now I fear you've left me standing
In a world that's so demanding
I used to think that the day would never come
I'd see delight in the shade of the morning sun
My morning sun is the drug that brings me near
To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear
I used to think that the day would never come
That my life would depend on the morning sun
I used to think that the day would never come
I'd see delight in the shade of the morning sun
My morning sun is the drug that brings me near
To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear
I used to think that the day would never come
That my life would depend on the morning sun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfI1S0PKJR8
"The chances are we've gone too far"
I feel so extraordinary
Something's got a hold on me
I get this feeling I'm in motion
A sudden sense of liberty
I don't care 'cause I'm not there
And I don't care if I'm here tomorrow
Again and again I've taken too much
Of the things that cost you too much
I used to think that the day would never come
I'd see delight in the shade of the morning sun
My morning sun is the drug that brings me near
To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear
I used to think that the day would never come
That my life would depend on the morning sun
When I was a very small boy
Very small boys talked to me
Now that we've grown up together
They're afraid of what they see
That's the price that we all pay
And the value of destiny comes to nothing
I can't tell you where we're going
I guess there was just no way of knowing
I used to think that the day would never come
I'd see delight in the shade of the morning sun
My morning sun is the drug that brings me near
To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear
I used to think that the day would never come
That my life would depend on the morning sun
I feel so extraordinary
Something's got a hold on me
I get this feeling I'm in motion
A sudden sense of liberty
The chances are we've gone too far
You took my time and you took my money
Now I fear you've left me standing
In a world that's so demanding
I used to think that the day would never come
I'd see delight in the shade of the morning sun
My morning sun is the drug that brings me near
To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear
I used to think that the day would never come
That my life would depend on the morning sun
I used to think that the day would never come
I'd see delight in the shade of the morning sun
My morning sun is the drug that brings me near
To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear
I used to think that the day would never come
That my life would depend on the morning sun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfI1S0PKJR8
11 November 2016 10:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Tänud imelisele kes Mu unes oli
Mis muidugi oli kombinatsioon kellegi vaimust, kellegi keha energia mälust ja kellegi uue välimusest,<
Mis muidugi oli kombinatsioon kellegi vaimust, kellegi keha energia mälust ja kellegi uue välimusest,<
11 November 2016 10:34
Margus Meigo commented on Joyce Rheal's post.
SO the other eagle was a partner protecting him/her ?
11 November 2016 08:44
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Ravenna's post.
Did some one sexually assaulted Trump child ?
Can be read also..
Can be read also..
11 November 2016 08:42
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Ravenna's post.
Miracles can happen all kind, if truth is truth
11 November 2016 08:41
Margus Meigo replied to Matthew Grieder's comment.
More in here:
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days
11 November 2016 04:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days
11 November 2016 04:39
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
but yes, if these people are some "bold headed" fake Nazis (new age "jew haters") who put this up for making hate or stupid joke, then jes , then i support Your call Angelica Ravenna
i newer like anyone who does not love jews, as i see the ones who against hebrews as communists (anti-women beigs), who are not evolved on to loving human beings jet
i newer like anyone who does not love jews, as i see the ones who against hebrews as communists (anti-women beigs), who are not evolved on to loving human beings jet
11 November 2016 04:37
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
he also wanted to make German free from roman empire..who have up to now concurred all world with shadow gov and with fake democracy
so for me, greater offence ALWAYS is pentagrams, and so should be for everyone who respects women, nature and honest freedom
so for me, greater offence ALWAYS is pentagrams, and so should be for everyone who respects women, nature and honest freedom
11 November 2016 04:34
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
but this what it end up to be...even if small % is true (total is true + mass brutal rape of 10s of millions of children and women by soviets.. this was part of actual military action..)... but what we not know is who made the camps on to what level and how..
Adolf newer saw ANY of the camps with ones own eye...Stalin enjoyed hes gulags well.. this is difference... soviets also in Estoniaia , was in fake German clothing's and made Jewish burning, later getting cough as fabric was not original , same with German painted airplanes who bombed children hospitals etc, that was shoot down.. and discovered later, that metal was not from German but from soviet factory
Soviet (aliens,deam0ns) was for fake jews and wanted to eliminate all god related real religious people, Real Hebrews.. and native people and shamans, who even jet remember or know the power of women's and who ever supported Matriarchy,
Adolf newer saw ANY of the camps with ones own eye...Stalin enjoyed hes gulags well.. this is difference... soviets also in Estoniaia , was in fake German clothing's and made Jewish burning, later getting cough as fabric was not original , same with German painted airplanes who bombed children hospitals etc, that was shoot down.. and discovered later, that metal was not from German but from soviet factory
Soviet (aliens,deam0ns) was for fake jews and wanted to eliminate all god related real religious people, Real Hebrews.. and native people and shamans, who even jet remember or know the power of women's and who ever supported Matriarchy,
11 November 2016 04:32
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
seems to me, that most likelly
One of the real reasons for global attack against him was because he stand for a god, loved nature
this is also reason why only Japan joined with them, as Japan is Animistic, last one of the world lands who still hold high the REAL reality (but yes, there is lot of mistakes also them made, but these are to easy to count, ... unlike communists, Natzis Newer wanted to eliminate Hebrews or even Jews globally )
this communists afraid most.. as the dark magic fundamental is in feeding meat and making humans insensitive for terrible things they do to animals
One of the real reasons for global attack against him was because he stand for a god, loved nature
this is also reason why only Japan joined with them, as Japan is Animistic, last one of the world lands who still hold high the REAL reality (but yes, there is lot of mistakes also them made, but these are to easy to count, ... unlike communists, Natzis Newer wanted to eliminate Hebrews or even Jews globally )
this communists afraid most.. as the dark magic fundamental is in feeding meat and making humans insensitive for terrible things they do to animals
11 November 2016 04:23
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
and please do not run to block me off, because i am honest
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater
11 November 2016 04:19
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
i feel MUCH more offended, EVERY day seeing Pentagrams all around us, from USA flag to European Union - EU money,
at least THIS flag was based on love and ancient real symbol relating to good
at least THIS flag was based on love and ancient real symbol relating to good
11 November 2016 04:19
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
really?
11 November 2016 04:18
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
yeah, as gangs need them
11 November 2016 04:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
11 November 2016 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But he him self had a seal, like in Eminem video, in a way, pulling so much fire him self to him self, that real attacks and discussions newer was able to appear between emotions... in amounts to be relevant
11 November 2016 04:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this is the thing, people fabricate some retarded lies and think it is funny or ...well... the real life opponents who do it, can forgive to them i guess, and it was done massive amounts of times more for Clinton, like making fake REALLY negative sounding groups about Clinton, associating Her with what is not real..and making group with some 25 000 making most people think "well,,, it must be something like that...so man people.."
trouble and good thing was that Clinton side did not use social media in so attacking and sneaky, brutal way... so human minds, millions was changed bit by bit to "well.. i guess she is a bit then..." ... this is how communist strategy works, you repeat something so long that people pick it up..
http://www.snopes.com/1998-trump-people-quote/
trouble and good thing was that Clinton side did not use social media in so attacking and sneaky, brutal way... so human minds, millions was changed bit by bit to "well.. i guess she is a bit then..." ... this is how communist strategy works, you repeat something so long that people pick it up..
http://www.snopes.com/1998-trump-people-quote/
http://www.snopes.com/1998-trump-people-quote/
11 November 2016 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Correction: honest on these points
calling Clinton a criminal was kind of dirty lie for what he will say sorry for sure also, if he did not jet
kind of sifted away from the arresting plan also..
calling Clinton a criminal was kind of dirty lie for what he will say sorry for sure also, if he did not jet
kind of sifted away from the arresting plan also..
11 November 2016 03:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Most interesting thing is the China thing, will one dear?
Most of other things are still easy in long term, even if look harder and impossible first.. but to mess with global finance plan... and to sift communist powers around (specially the ones also rooted in USA for long term plan in last 100 years..)
Most of other things are still easy in long term, even if look harder and impossible first.. but to mess with global finance plan... and to sift communist powers around (specially the ones also rooted in USA for long term plan in last 100 years..)
11 November 2016 03:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Donald Trump Reveals His Plans for His First 100 Days and They are Terrifying
Below is the 100-day plan Trump's campaign released in October, called "Donald Trump's Contract With The American Voter."
What follows is my 100-day action plan to Make America Great Again. It is a contract between myself and the American voter — and begins with restoring honesty, accountability and change to Washington
Therefore, on the first day of my term of office, my administration will immediately pursue the following six measures to clean up the corruption and special interest collusion in Washington, DC:
* FIRST, propose a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress;
* SECOND, a hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public safety, and public health);
* THIRD, a requirement that for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated;
* FOURTH, a 5 year-ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service;
WATCH: Hillary Clinton Concedes Presidential Race To Donald Trump
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WATCH: Hillary Clinton Concedes Presidential Race To Donald Trump
* FIFTH, a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government;
* SIXTH, a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections.
On the same day, I will begin taking the following 7 actions to protect American workers:
* FIRST, I will announce my intention to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw from the deal under Article 2205
* SECOND, I will announce our withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership
* THIRD, I will direct my Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator
* FOURTH, I will direct the Secretary of Commerce and U.S. Trade Representative to identify all foreign trading abuses that unfairly impact American workers and direct them to use every tool under American and international law to end those abuses immediately
WATCH: President Obama On Trump Win, Clinton Loss
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WATCH: President Obama On Trump Win, Clinton Loss
* FIFTH, I will lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars' worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal.
* SIXTH, lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks and allow vital energy infrastructure projects, like the Keystone Pipeline, to move forward
* SEVENTH, cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix America's water and environmental infrastructure
Additionally, on the first day, I will take the following five actions to restore security and the constitutional rule of law:
* FIRST, cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama
* SECOND, begin the process of selecting a replacement for Justice Scalia from one of the 20 judges on my list, who will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States
* THIRD, cancel all federal funding to Sanctuary Cities
* FOURTH, begin removing the more than 2 million criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel visas to foreign countries that won't take them back
* FIFTH, suspend immigration from terror-prone regions where vetting cannot safely occur. All vetting of people coming into our country will be considered extreme vetting.
Next, I will work with Congress to introduce the following broader legislative measures and fight for their passage within the first 100 days of my Administration:
Middle Class Tax Relief And Simplification Act. An economic plan designed to grow the economy 4% per year and create at least 25 million new jobs through massive tax reduction and simplification, in combination with trade reform, regulatory relief, and lifting the restrictions on American energy. The largest tax reductions are for the middle class. A middle-class family with 2 children will get a 35% tax cut. The current number of brackets will be reduced from 7 to 3, and tax forms will likewise be greatly simplified. The business rate will be lowered from 35 to 15 percent, and the trillions of dollars of American corporate money overseas can now be brought back at a 10 percent rate.
End The Offshoring Act. Establishes tariffs to discourage companies from laying off their workers in order to relocate in other countries and ship their products back to the U.S. tax-free.
American Energy & Infrastructure Act. Leverages public-private partnerships, and private investments through tax incentives, to spur $1 trillion in infrastructure investment over 10 years. It is revenue neutral.
School Choice And Education Opportunity Act. Redirects education dollars to give parents the right to send their kid to the public, private, charter, magnet, religious or home school of their choice. Ends common core, brings education supervision to local communities. It expands vocational and technical education, and make 2 and 4-year college more affordable.
Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act. Fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across state lines, and lets states manage Medicaid funds. Reforms will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA: there are over 4,000 drugs awaiting approval, and we especially want to speed the approval of life-saving medications.
Affordable Childcare and Eldercare Act. Allows Americans to deduct childcare and elder care from their taxes, incentivizes employers to provide on-side childcare services, and creates tax-free Dependent Care Savings Accounts for both young and elderly dependents, with matching contributions for low-income families.
End Illegal Immigration Act Fully-funds the construction of a wall on our southern border with the full understanding that the country Mexico will be reimbursing the United States for the full cost of such wall; establishes a 2-year mandatory minimum federal prison sentence for illegally re-entering the U.S. after a previous deportation, and a 5-year mandatory minimum for illegally re-entering for those with felony convictions, multiple misdemeanor convictions or two or more prior deportations; also reforms visa rules to enhance penalties for overstaying and to ensure open jobs are offered to American workers first.
Restoring Community Safety Act. Reduces surging crime, drugs and violence by creating a Task Force On Violent Crime and increasing funding for programs that train and assist local police; increases resources for federal law enforcement agencies and federal prosecutors to dismantle criminal gangs and put violent offenders behind bars.
Restoring National Security Act. Rebuilds our military by eliminating the defense sequester and expanding military investment; provides Veterans with the ability to receive public VA treatment or attend the private doctor of their choice; protects our vital infrastructure from cyber-attack; establishes new screening procedures for immigration to ensure those who are admitted to our country support our people and our values
Clean up Corruption in Washington Act. Enacts new ethics reforms to Drain the Swamp and reduce the corrupting influence of special interests on our politics.
On November 8th, Americans will be voting for this 100-day plan to restore prosperity to our economy, security to our communities, and honesty to our government.
This is my pledge to you.
And if we follow these steps, we will once more have a government of, by and for the people.
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days
Below is the 100-day plan Trump's campaign released in October, called "Donald Trump's Contract With The American Voter."
What follows is my 100-day action plan to Make America Great Again. It is a contract between myself and the American voter — and begins with restoring honesty, accountability and change to Washington
Therefore, on the first day of my term of office, my administration will immediately pursue the following six measures to clean up the corruption and special interest collusion in Washington, DC:
* FIRST, propose a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress;
* SECOND, a hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public safety, and public health);
* THIRD, a requirement that for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated;
* FOURTH, a 5 year-ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service;
WATCH: Hillary Clinton Concedes Presidential Race To Donald Trump
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WATCH: Hillary Clinton Concedes Presidential Race To Donald Trump
* FIFTH, a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government;
* SIXTH, a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections.
On the same day, I will begin taking the following 7 actions to protect American workers:
* FIRST, I will announce my intention to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw from the deal under Article 2205
* SECOND, I will announce our withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership
* THIRD, I will direct my Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator
* FOURTH, I will direct the Secretary of Commerce and U.S. Trade Representative to identify all foreign trading abuses that unfairly impact American workers and direct them to use every tool under American and international law to end those abuses immediately
WATCH: President Obama On Trump Win, Clinton Loss
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WATCH: President Obama On Trump Win, Clinton Loss
* FIFTH, I will lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars' worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal.
* SIXTH, lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks and allow vital energy infrastructure projects, like the Keystone Pipeline, to move forward
* SEVENTH, cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix America's water and environmental infrastructure
Additionally, on the first day, I will take the following five actions to restore security and the constitutional rule of law:
* FIRST, cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama
* SECOND, begin the process of selecting a replacement for Justice Scalia from one of the 20 judges on my list, who will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States
* THIRD, cancel all federal funding to Sanctuary Cities
* FOURTH, begin removing the more than 2 million criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel visas to foreign countries that won't take them back
* FIFTH, suspend immigration from terror-prone regions where vetting cannot safely occur. All vetting of people coming into our country will be considered extreme vetting.
Next, I will work with Congress to introduce the following broader legislative measures and fight for their passage within the first 100 days of my Administration:
Middle Class Tax Relief And Simplification Act. An economic plan designed to grow the economy 4% per year and create at least 25 million new jobs through massive tax reduction and simplification, in combination with trade reform, regulatory relief, and lifting the restrictions on American energy. The largest tax reductions are for the middle class. A middle-class family with 2 children will get a 35% tax cut. The current number of brackets will be reduced from 7 to 3, and tax forms will likewise be greatly simplified. The business rate will be lowered from 35 to 15 percent, and the trillions of dollars of American corporate money overseas can now be brought back at a 10 percent rate.
End The Offshoring Act. Establishes tariffs to discourage companies from laying off their workers in order to relocate in other countries and ship their products back to the U.S. tax-free.
American Energy & Infrastructure Act. Leverages public-private partnerships, and private investments through tax incentives, to spur $1 trillion in infrastructure investment over 10 years. It is revenue neutral.
School Choice And Education Opportunity Act. Redirects education dollars to give parents the right to send their kid to the public, private, charter, magnet, religious or home school of their choice. Ends common core, brings education supervision to local communities. It expands vocational and technical education, and make 2 and 4-year college more affordable.
Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act. Fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across state lines, and lets states manage Medicaid funds. Reforms will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA: there are over 4,000 drugs awaiting approval, and we especially want to speed the approval of life-saving medications.
Affordable Childcare and Eldercare Act. Allows Americans to deduct childcare and elder care from their taxes, incentivizes employers to provide on-side childcare services, and creates tax-free Dependent Care Savings Accounts for both young and elderly dependents, with matching contributions for low-income families.
End Illegal Immigration Act Fully-funds the construction of a wall on our southern border with the full understanding that the country Mexico will be reimbursing the United States for the full cost of such wall; establishes a 2-year mandatory minimum federal prison sentence for illegally re-entering the U.S. after a previous deportation, and a 5-year mandatory minimum for illegally re-entering for those with felony convictions, multiple misdemeanor convictions or two or more prior deportations; also reforms visa rules to enhance penalties for overstaying and to ensure open jobs are offered to American workers first.
Restoring Community Safety Act. Reduces surging crime, drugs and violence by creating a Task Force On Violent Crime and increasing funding for programs that train and assist local police; increases resources for federal law enforcement agencies and federal prosecutors to dismantle criminal gangs and put violent offenders behind bars.
Restoring National Security Act. Rebuilds our military by eliminating the defense sequester and expanding military investment; provides Veterans with the ability to receive public VA treatment or attend the private doctor of their choice; protects our vital infrastructure from cyber-attack; establishes new screening procedures for immigration to ensure those who are admitted to our country support our people and our values
Clean up Corruption in Washington Act. Enacts new ethics reforms to Drain the Swamp and reduce the corrupting influence of special interests on our politics.
On November 8th, Americans will be voting for this 100-day plan to restore prosperity to our economy, security to our communities, and honesty to our government.
This is my pledge to you.
And if we follow these steps, we will once more have a government of, by and for the people.
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days
11 November 2016 03:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
pissed me off the business insider, already last year when i saw their fake image, ...commented about it somewhere, thinking "did someone over take them" .. and now putting this kind of cover image and not video that was related to it? Why, when talking about honesty?
11 November 2016 03:49
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Ravenna's post.
people are allowed to have pentagrams on their flag and they find this nostalgic flag is bad?
Are you serious ?
Are you serious ?
11 November 2016 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on Humberto Durán's photo.
and in here as well: http://www.snopes.com/1998-trump-people-quote/
http://www.snopes.com/1998-trump-people-quote/
11 November 2016 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on Humberto Durán's photo.
perhaps in a mind, but not in reality, picture took from
(always be weary of sources that does not point You to source)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDxk5H2Mlc8
(always be weary of sources that does not point You to source)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDxk5H2Mlc8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDxk5H2Mlc8
11 November 2016 03:28
Margus Meigo replied to Sergei Sarasenidze's comment.
how come?
11 November 2016 03:25
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11 November 2016 02:28
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11 November 2016 02:20
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11 November 2016 02:10
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11 November 2016 02:07
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11 November 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
maybe as Ferras... , this one was kind of ..well, not sure how the Label holds up if she not find soon more solid solists
11 November 2016 02:01
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11 November 2016 02:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey, lets let it rest to tomorrow and see what new comes in to there...
still, how they end up and selected just that...
oh.. gotta find Katy Perry also now before that,,,
Thats the thing with technology, so much Good drugs, secret Society's and nice Puppy pictures are offered, that we forget the foremost main point we come here first of all, the Women
still, how they end up and selected just that...
oh.. gotta find Katy Perry also now before that,,,
Thats the thing with technology, so much Good drugs, secret Society's and nice Puppy pictures are offered, that we forget the foremost main point we come here first of all, the Women
11 November 2016 01:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
talking about lodges it seemed for me, that this lodge name at first is "Royal HangOver Lodge.,."
www.royalhanoverlodge.com
www.royalhanoverlodge.com
http://www.royalhanoverlodge.com/
11 November 2016 01:51
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11 November 2016 01:50
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11 November 2016 01:41
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11 November 2016 01:38
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11 November 2016 01:36
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11 November 2016 01:34
Margus Meigo replied to Sergei Sarasenidze's comment.
:)
pss!
pss!
11 November 2016 01:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
11 November 2016 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
and as i used totally unknown email address i wonder how i already got followers and appropriate Hebrew related suggestions
11 November 2016 01:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
my another comment related to topic:
"As people did not want to accept with 90% vote at least, the Savior direction, by women who quoted Holy Bible on Her last speech, and represented Matriarchy, not liberals or democrats, then God has decided to use This one, to deeply turn politics around in many lands... if Trump is willing to keep up the plan what is needed... if we NOT allow politics to swallow him,, as daemons what they think they can manage.. will just start to Eat on Him if demands are not Full filled, and then we see... will he bend over or will we be able to rise him high, before they turn him to freak of strange who's behavior will not be heard or reacted to ...
As it is still much bigger then America, this is about will politics be allowed to become free, not even about honest but this also.. but free in rules that right now are shaped by evil liberal language prison that is run by old Roman like empire, after Roman Empire went underground.
For that really reason, we must beat him up in every mistake harder to ever, on our own way, for that really reason, we must help him and protect from wrong kind of attacks, that would just interfere with our ultimate plans and would sink him before we get proper use of this parts of his figure, that can be used for another type of good, where was needed to come for Clinton anyway, and what is even better, if someone clears the house.. as if She would try to do it.. the attacks would be to dirty, and to massive, ...as it is easy to attack good (harder ultimately but easy to send ignorant to fight against good, as a tank meat, as human shield...as was programmed people against her in insane levels..but she can not attack them back... but Trump can, slap... if needed, lets hope.. and so.. lot of punks will not run wild against him... and he in return, can run against many types of evils, just because he can, and needs)
"As people did not want to accept with 90% vote at least, the Savior direction, by women who quoted Holy Bible on Her last speech, and represented Matriarchy, not liberals or democrats, then God has decided to use This one, to deeply turn politics around in many lands... if Trump is willing to keep up the plan what is needed... if we NOT allow politics to swallow him,, as daemons what they think they can manage.. will just start to Eat on Him if demands are not Full filled, and then we see... will he bend over or will we be able to rise him high, before they turn him to freak of strange who's behavior will not be heard or reacted to ...
As it is still much bigger then America, this is about will politics be allowed to become free, not even about honest but this also.. but free in rules that right now are shaped by evil liberal language prison that is run by old Roman like empire, after Roman Empire went underground.
For that really reason, we must beat him up in every mistake harder to ever, on our own way, for that really reason, we must help him and protect from wrong kind of attacks, that would just interfere with our ultimate plans and would sink him before we get proper use of this parts of his figure, that can be used for another type of good, where was needed to come for Clinton anyway, and what is even better, if someone clears the house.. as if She would try to do it.. the attacks would be to dirty, and to massive, ...as it is easy to attack good (harder ultimately but easy to send ignorant to fight against good, as a tank meat, as human shield...as was programmed people against her in insane levels..but she can not attack them back... but Trump can, slap... if needed, lets hope.. and so.. lot of punks will not run wild against him... and he in return, can run against many types of evils, just because he can, and needs)
11 November 2016 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
As people did not want to accept with 90% vote at least, the Savior direction, by women who quoted Holy Bible on Her last speech, and represented Matriarchy, not liberals or democrats, then God has decided to use This one, to deeply turn politics around in many lands... if Trump is willing to keep up the plan what is needed... if we NOT allow politics to swallow him,, as daemons what they think they can manage.. will just start to Eat on Him if demands are not Full filled, and then we see... will he bend over or will we be able to rise him high, before they turn him to freak of strange who's behavior will not be heard or reacted to ...
As it is still much bigger then America, this is about will politics be allowed to become free, not even about honest but this also.. but free in rules that right now are shaped by evil liberal language prison that is run by old Roman like empire, after Roman Empire went underground.
For that really reason, we must beat him up in every mistake harder to ever, on our own way, for that really reason, we must help him and protect from wrong kind of attacks, that would just interfere with our ultimate plans and would sink him before we get proper use of this parts of his figure, that can be used for another type of good, where was needed to come for Clinton anyway, and what is even better, if someone clears the house.. as if She would try to do it.. the attacks would be to dirty, and to massive, ...as it is easy to attack good (harder ultimately but easy to send ignorant to fight against good, as a tank meat, as human shield...as was programmed people against her in insane levels..but she can not attack them back... but Trump can, slap... if needed, lets hope.. and so.. lot of punks will not run wild against him... and he in return, can run against many types of evils, just because he can, and needs)
Teach For America
As it is still much bigger then America, this is about will politics be allowed to become free, not even about honest but this also.. but free in rules that right now are shaped by evil liberal language prison that is run by old Roman like empire, after Roman Empire went underground.
For that really reason, we must beat him up in every mistake harder to ever, on our own way, for that really reason, we must help him and protect from wrong kind of attacks, that would just interfere with our ultimate plans and would sink him before we get proper use of this parts of his figure, that can be used for another type of good, where was needed to come for Clinton anyway, and what is even better, if someone clears the house.. as if She would try to do it.. the attacks would be to dirty, and to massive, ...as it is easy to attack good (harder ultimately but easy to send ignorant to fight against good, as a tank meat, as human shield...as was programmed people against her in insane levels..but she can not attack them back... but Trump can, slap... if needed, lets hope.. and so.. lot of punks will not run wild against him... and he in return, can run against many types of evils, just because he can, and needs)
Teach For America
11 November 2016 01:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The Shadow philosophy people.. ("The shadow" is actually another spiritual dark trick, including people who promote this way of thinking, but about that another time)
"1. See Trumpism for what it is, a confrontation with the shadow.
Instead of demonizing him, acknowledge that the shadow is in everyone and always has been.
2. At the same time, realize that the shadow never wins in the end.
3. Find every opening to reinforce the value of returning to right and reason in your own life.
4. Don’t fight the shadow with the shadow, which means not stooping to play by Trump’s nihilistic rules—he will always be willing to go lower than you are willing to go.
----
" Trump has stripped away the facade, intoxicated by the “fun” of letting his demons run and discovering to his surprise (much as Nixon did) that millions of people roared with approval. Yet by comparison, Nixon retained relative control over the forces he unleashed, while Trump may be riding a tiger—that part of the story has yet to play itself out.
// realize also, the D word (deamn) as something real, not methap0rical
If the shadow refuses to go back underground, which is always the case, what outcomes can we anticipate over the next six months? The present situation finds us trapped between denial and disaster. Denial is when you ignore the shadow; disaster is when you totally surrender to it. Without being at either extreme, right now many Americans feel the unsettling symptom of being out of control. Trump glorifies being out of control, and until this outbreak runs its course—which no one can predict—he will remain immune to all the normal constraints.
---
When Trump indulges in rampant bad behavior and at the same time says to his riotous audiences, “This is fun, isn’t it?” he’s expressing in public our ashamed impulse to stop obeying the rules.
But the fun of world War I, which almost gleefully sent young men off to fight, quickly turned to horror, and the shadow closed an insidious trap. Once released, it is very hard to force the shadow back into its underground bunker. The Republican party has kept the shadow on a slow simmer for decades, ever since Nixon discovered how to make hay form Southern racism, law-and-order aggression against minorities, and us-versus-them attitudes to the Vietnam anti-war movement. In order to make themselves feel unashamed, the good people on the right found figureheads after Nixon who exuded respectability. The irony is that as with civilized societies that seem the least likely to allow the shadow to run free, the more benign a Reagan or Bush acted, the stronger the shadow became behind the facade.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/americas-shadow-the-real-_b_10319848.html
"1. See Trumpism for what it is, a confrontation with the shadow.
Instead of demonizing him, acknowledge that the shadow is in everyone and always has been.
2. At the same time, realize that the shadow never wins in the end.
3. Find every opening to reinforce the value of returning to right and reason in your own life.
4. Don’t fight the shadow with the shadow, which means not stooping to play by Trump’s nihilistic rules—he will always be willing to go lower than you are willing to go.
----
" Trump has stripped away the facade, intoxicated by the “fun” of letting his demons run and discovering to his surprise (much as Nixon did) that millions of people roared with approval. Yet by comparison, Nixon retained relative control over the forces he unleashed, while Trump may be riding a tiger—that part of the story has yet to play itself out.
// realize also, the D word (deamn) as something real, not methap0rical
If the shadow refuses to go back underground, which is always the case, what outcomes can we anticipate over the next six months? The present situation finds us trapped between denial and disaster. Denial is when you ignore the shadow; disaster is when you totally surrender to it. Without being at either extreme, right now many Americans feel the unsettling symptom of being out of control. Trump glorifies being out of control, and until this outbreak runs its course—which no one can predict—he will remain immune to all the normal constraints.
---
When Trump indulges in rampant bad behavior and at the same time says to his riotous audiences, “This is fun, isn’t it?” he’s expressing in public our ashamed impulse to stop obeying the rules.
But the fun of world War I, which almost gleefully sent young men off to fight, quickly turned to horror, and the shadow closed an insidious trap. Once released, it is very hard to force the shadow back into its underground bunker. The Republican party has kept the shadow on a slow simmer for decades, ever since Nixon discovered how to make hay form Southern racism, law-and-order aggression against minorities, and us-versus-them attitudes to the Vietnam anti-war movement. In order to make themselves feel unashamed, the good people on the right found figureheads after Nixon who exuded respectability. The irony is that as with civilized societies that seem the least likely to allow the shadow to run free, the more benign a Reagan or Bush acted, the stronger the shadow became behind the facade.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/americas-shadow-the-real-_b_10319848.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/americas-shadow-the-real-_b_10319848.html
11 November 2016 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on Humberto Durán's post.
can You imagine, what would be left of him, when people in next elections, including Clinton would dare to say, what they REALLY think ?
11 November 2016 00:54
Margus Meigo commented on Humberto Durán's post.
I admire him as opponent but he is not even a true opponent, he also play the game because lack of true proof of love in he's life.
He tapped in to markets of many psyches, and even in to women's, in old Roman way, ...but most of all, he was not needed to play as politician, as some of them who they make in factory, so he looks "real" , even if real bastard, people love still a real, and it just luckily will unleash the revolution of being real among all other politicians, as was bikini revolution
He tapped in to markets of many psyches, and even in to women's, in old Roman way, ...but most of all, he was not needed to play as politician, as some of them who they make in factory, so he looks "real" , even if real bastard, people love still a real, and it just luckily will unleash the revolution of being real among all other politicians, as was bikini revolution
11 November 2016 00:53
Margus Meigo commented on Humberto Durán's post.
vas made me smile in admire, when saw he's campaign that he is anti-establishment and anti-elite,
while HE is most naked representation of "The Elite" and "The Establishment" with out esoteric.
They are the ones, who wrote Law's for politicians so they would remind a politician, a puppets in business pocked, ...great stand was done long time ago with English King when corporations took over as mafia.. explaining that they in total can always eliminate Royal if they wish...
So ..
while HE is most naked representation of "The Elite" and "The Establishment" with out esoteric.
They are the ones, who wrote Law's for politicians so they would remind a politician, a puppets in business pocked, ...great stand was done long time ago with English King when corporations took over as mafia.. explaining that they in total can always eliminate Royal if they wish...
So ..
11 November 2016 00:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Current time:
The bikini remained a hot topic for the news media. In May 2011, Barcelona, Spain made it illegal to wear bikinis in public except in areas near the beaches. Violators face fines of between 120 and 300 euros. In 2012, two students of St. Theresa's College in Cebu, the Philippines were barred from attending their graduation ceremony for "ample body exposure" because their bikini pictures were posted on Facebook. The students sued the college and won a temporary stay in a regional court.
In May 2013, Cambridge University banned the Wyverns Club of Magdalene College from arranging its annual bikini jelly wrestling. In June 2013, actress Gwyneth Paltrow, who also is interested in fashion, produced a bikini for her clothing line that is designed to be worn by girls 4 to 8 years old. She was criticized for sexualizing young children by Claude Knight of Kidscape, a British foundation that strives to prevent child abuse. He commented, "We remain very opposed to the sexualisation of children and of childhood ... is a great pity that such trends continue and that they carry celebrity endorsement."
Four women were arrested over the 2013 Memorial Day weekend in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina for indecent exposure when they wore thong bikinis that exposed their buttocks. In June 2013, the British watchdog agency Advertising Standards Authority banned a commercial that showed men in an office fantasizing about their colleague, played by Pamela Anderson, in a bikini for degrading women
The bikini remained a hot topic for the news media. In May 2011, Barcelona, Spain made it illegal to wear bikinis in public except in areas near the beaches. Violators face fines of between 120 and 300 euros. In 2012, two students of St. Theresa's College in Cebu, the Philippines were barred from attending their graduation ceremony for "ample body exposure" because their bikini pictures were posted on Facebook. The students sued the college and won a temporary stay in a regional court.
In May 2013, Cambridge University banned the Wyverns Club of Magdalene College from arranging its annual bikini jelly wrestling. In June 2013, actress Gwyneth Paltrow, who also is interested in fashion, produced a bikini for her clothing line that is designed to be worn by girls 4 to 8 years old. She was criticized for sexualizing young children by Claude Knight of Kidscape, a British foundation that strives to prevent child abuse. He commented, "We remain very opposed to the sexualisation of children and of childhood ... is a great pity that such trends continue and that they carry celebrity endorsement."
Four women were arrested over the 2013 Memorial Day weekend in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina for indecent exposure when they wore thong bikinis that exposed their buttocks. In June 2013, the British watchdog agency Advertising Standards Authority banned a commercial that showed men in an office fantasizing about their colleague, played by Pamela Anderson, in a bikini for degrading women
11 November 2016 00:30
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EMAncipation ( Ema, mother in Est., Estonia ):
By the end of the century, the bikini went on to become the most popular beachwear around the globe, according to French fashion historian Olivier Saillard due to "the power of women, and not the power of fashion". As he explains, "The emancipation of swimwear has always been linked to the emancipation of women",[1] though one survey tells 85% of all bikinis never touch the water
By the end of the century, the bikini went on to become the most popular beachwear around the globe, according to French fashion historian Olivier Saillard due to "the power of women, and not the power of fashion". As he explains, "The emancipation of swimwear has always been linked to the emancipation of women",[1] though one survey tells 85% of all bikinis never touch the water
11 November 2016 00:28
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As skin cancer awareness grew and a simpler aesthetic defined fashion in the 1990s, sales of the skimpy bikini decreased dramatically. The new swimwear code was epitomized by surf star Malia Jones, who appeared on the June 1997 cover of Shape Magazine wearing a halter top two-piece for rough water.
After the 90s, however, the bikini came back again. US market research company NPD Group reported that sales of two-piece swimsuits nationwide jumped 80% in two years
After the 90s, however, the bikini came back again. US market research company NPD Group reported that sales of two-piece swimsuits nationwide jumped 80% in two years
11 November 2016 00:26
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seventh ring of hell;
In the 1983 film Return of the Jedi, Star Wars' Princess Leia Organa was captured by Jabba the Hutt and forced to wear a metal bikini complete with shackles. The costume was made of brass and was so uncomfortable that actress Carrie Fisher described it as "what supermodels will eventually wear in the seventh ring of hell."
The "slave Leia" look is often imitated by female fans at Star Wars conventions.[ In 1997, 51 years after the bikini's debut, and 77 years after the Miss America Pageant was founded, contestants were allowed wear two-piece swimsuits, not just the swimsuits (nicknamed "bulletproof vests") traditionally issued by the pageant.
Two of the 17 swimsuit finalists wore two-piece swimsuits, and Erika Kauffman, representing Hawaii, wore the briefest bikini of all and won the swimsuit competition.
In 2010, the International Federation of Bodybuilders recognized Bikini as a new competitive category.
In the 1983 film Return of the Jedi, Star Wars' Princess Leia Organa was captured by Jabba the Hutt and forced to wear a metal bikini complete with shackles. The costume was made of brass and was so uncomfortable that actress Carrie Fisher described it as "what supermodels will eventually wear in the seventh ring of hell."
The "slave Leia" look is often imitated by female fans at Star Wars conventions.[ In 1997, 51 years after the bikini's debut, and 77 years after the Miss America Pageant was founded, contestants were allowed wear two-piece swimsuits, not just the swimsuits (nicknamed "bulletproof vests") traditionally issued by the pageant.
Two of the 17 swimsuit finalists wore two-piece swimsuits, and Erika Kauffman, representing Hawaii, wore the briefest bikini of all and won the swimsuit competition.
In 2010, the International Federation of Bodybuilders recognized Bikini as a new competitive category.
11 November 2016 00:25
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Ursula Undress
In 1962, Bond Girl Ursula Andress emerged from the sea wearing a white bikini in Dr. No. The scene has been named one of the most memorable of the series.[106] Channel 4 declared it the top bikini moment in film history,[107] Virgin Media puts it ninth in its top ten,[108] and top in the Bond girls.[109] The Herald (Glasgow) put the scene as best ever on the basis of a poll.[110] It also helped shape the career of Ursula Andress,[111] and the look of the quintessential Bond movie.[112] Andress said that she owed her career to that white bikini, remarking,
"This bikini made me into a success. As a result of starring in Dr. No as the first Bond girl, I was given the freedom to take my pick of future roles and to become financially independent.
In 2001, the Dr. No bikini worn by Andress in the film sold at auction for US$61,500.[1] That white bikini has been described as a "defining moment in the sixties liberalization of screen eroticism".[116] Because of the shocking effect from how revealing it was at the time, she got referred to by the joke nickname "Ursula Undress". According to the British Broadcasting Corporation, "So iconic was the look that it was repeated 40 years later by Halle Berry in the Bond movie Die Another Day."
The appearance of bikinis kept increasing both on screen and off. The sex appeal prompted film and television productions, including Dr. Strangelove.
In 1962, Bond Girl Ursula Andress emerged from the sea wearing a white bikini in Dr. No. The scene has been named one of the most memorable of the series.[106] Channel 4 declared it the top bikini moment in film history,[107] Virgin Media puts it ninth in its top ten,[108] and top in the Bond girls.[109] The Herald (Glasgow) put the scene as best ever on the basis of a poll.[110] It also helped shape the career of Ursula Andress,[111] and the look of the quintessential Bond movie.[112] Andress said that she owed her career to that white bikini, remarking,
"This bikini made me into a success. As a result of starring in Dr. No as the first Bond girl, I was given the freedom to take my pick of future roles and to become financially independent.
In 2001, the Dr. No bikini worn by Andress in the film sold at auction for US$61,500.[1] That white bikini has been described as a "defining moment in the sixties liberalization of screen eroticism".[116] Because of the shocking effect from how revealing it was at the time, she got referred to by the joke nickname "Ursula Undress". According to the British Broadcasting Corporation, "So iconic was the look that it was repeated 40 years later by Halle Berry in the Bond movie Die Another Day."
The appearance of bikinis kept increasing both on screen and off. The sex appeal prompted film and television productions, including Dr. Strangelove.
11 November 2016 00:22
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Tarzan was revolutionary:
The National Legion of Decency pressured Hollywood to keep bikinis from being featured in Hollywood movies.[97] The Hays production code for US movies, introduced in 1930 but not strictly enforced till 1934, allowed two-piece gowns but prohibited navels on screen.[98] But between the introduction and enforcement of the code two Tarzan movies, Tarzan, the Ape Man (1932) and Tarzan and His Mate (1934), were released in which actress Maureen O'Sullivan wore skimpy bikini-like leather outfits. Film historian Bruce Goldstein described her clothes in the first film as "It's a loincloth open up the side. You can see loin."[99] All at sea was allowed in the USA in 1957 after all bikini-type clothes were removed from the film.[100] The girl in the bikini was allowed in Kansas after all the bikini close ups were removed from the film in 1959
The National Legion of Decency pressured Hollywood to keep bikinis from being featured in Hollywood movies.[97] The Hays production code for US movies, introduced in 1930 but not strictly enforced till 1934, allowed two-piece gowns but prohibited navels on screen.[98] But between the introduction and enforcement of the code two Tarzan movies, Tarzan, the Ape Man (1932) and Tarzan and His Mate (1934), were released in which actress Maureen O'Sullivan wore skimpy bikini-like leather outfits. Film historian Bruce Goldstein described her clothes in the first film as "It's a loincloth open up the side. You can see loin."[99] All at sea was allowed in the USA in 1957 after all bikini-type clothes were removed from the film.[100] The girl in the bikini was allowed in Kansas after all the bikini close ups were removed from the film in 1959
11 November 2016 00:19
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Writer Meredith Hall wrote in her memoir that till 1965 one could get a citation for wearing a bikini in Hampton Beach, New Hampshire
In Spain, Benidorm played a similar role as Cannes. Shortly after the bikini was banned in Spain, Pedro Zaragoza, the mayor of Benidorm convinced dictator Francisco Franco that his town needed to legalize the bikini to draw tourists. In 1959, General Franco agreed and the town became a popular tourist destination. Interestingly, in less than four years since Franco's death in 1979, Spanish beaches and women had gone topless
In Spain, Benidorm played a similar role as Cannes. Shortly after the bikini was banned in Spain, Pedro Zaragoza, the mayor of Benidorm convinced dictator Francisco Franco that his town needed to legalize the bikini to draw tourists. In 1959, General Franco agreed and the town became a popular tourist destination. Interestingly, in less than four years since Franco's death in 1979, Spanish beaches and women had gone topless
11 November 2016 00:17
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Australian designer Paula Straford introduced the bikini to Gold Coast in 1952. In 1957, Das moderne Mädchen (The Modern Girl) wrote, "It is unthinkable that a decent girl with tact would ever wear such a thing." Eight years later a Munich student was punished to six days cleaning work at an old home because she had strolled across the central Viktualienmarkt square, Munich in a bikini.
11 November 2016 00:15
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Can You imagine this talk today:
" In 1950, Time magazine interviewed American swimsuit mogul Fred Cole, owner of Cole of California, and reported that he had "little but scorn for France's famed Bikinis," because they were designed for "diminutive Gallic women". "French girls have short legs," he explained, "Swimsuits have to be hiked up at the sides to make their legs look longer." Réard himself described it as a two-piece bathing suit which "reveals everything about a girl except for her mother's maiden name.
" In 1950, Time magazine interviewed American swimsuit mogul Fred Cole, owner of Cole of California, and reported that he had "little but scorn for France's famed Bikinis," because they were designed for "diminutive Gallic women". "French girls have short legs," he explained, "Swimsuits have to be hiked up at the sides to make their legs look longer." Réard himself described it as a two-piece bathing suit which "reveals everything about a girl except for her mother's maiden name.
11 November 2016 00:15
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In 1951, the first Miss World contest (originally the Festival Bikini Contest), was organized by Eric Morley.[76] When the winner, Kiki Håkansson from Sweden, was crowned in a bikini, countries with religious traditions threatened to withdraw delegates. Håkansson remains the first and last Miss World to be crowned in her bikini .
In 1949 the Los Angeles Times reported that Miss America Bebe Shopp on her visit to Paris said she did not approve the bikini for American girls, though she did not mind French girls wearing them
In 1949 the Los Angeles Times reported that Miss America Bebe Shopp on her visit to Paris said she did not approve the bikini for American girls, though she did not mind French girls wearing them
11 November 2016 00:13
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Réard was ahead of his time by about 15 to 20 years. Only women in the vanguard, mostly upper-class European women embraced it, just like the upper-class European women who first cast off their corsets after World War I."[70] It was banned in the French Atlantic coastline,[71] Spain, Belgium and Italy, three countries neighboring France, as well as Portugal and Australia, and it was prohibited in some US states,[72] and discouraged in others.
11 November 2016 00:11
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Louis Réard, a French automotive and mechanical engineer, was running his mother's lingerie business[1] near Les Folies Bergères in Paris.[62] He noticed women on St. Tropez beaches rolling up the edges of their swimsuits to get a better tan [1] and was inspired to produce a more minimal design. He trimmed additional fabric off the bottom of the swimsuit, exposing the wearer's navel for the first time. Réard's string bikini consisted of four triangles made from 30 square inches (194 cm2) of fabric printed with a newspaper pattern.[1]
11 November 2016 00:10
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When Réard sought a model to wear his design at his press conference, none of the usual models would wear the suit, so he hired 19 year old nude dancer Micheline Bernardini from the Casino de Paris.[ He introduced his design to the media and public on July 5, 1946, in Paris[64] at Piscine Molitor, a public pool in Paris. Réard held the press conference five days after the first test of a nuclear device (nicknamed Able) over the Bikini Atoll during Operation Crossroads. His swimsuit design shocked the press and public because it was the first to reveal the wearer's navel.[66]
To promote his new design, Heim hired skywriters to fly above the Mediterranean resort advertising the Atome as "the world's smallest bathing suit." Not to be outdone by Heim, Réard hired his own skywriters three weeks later to fly over the French Riviera advertising his design as "smaller than the smallest bathing suit in the world."[61]
Heim's design was the first to be worn on the beach, but the name given by Réard stuck with the public.[1] Despite significant social resistance, Réard received more than 50,000 letters from fans. He also initiated a bold ad campaign that told the public a two-piece swimsuit was not a genuine bikini "unless it could be pulled through a wedding ring."[69] According to Kevin Jones, curator and fashion historian at the Fashion Institute of Design & Merchandising, "Réard was ahead of his time by about 15 to 20 years. Only women in the vanguard, mostly upper-class European women embraced it."
To promote his new design, Heim hired skywriters to fly above the Mediterranean resort advertising the Atome as "the world's smallest bathing suit." Not to be outdone by Heim, Réard hired his own skywriters three weeks later to fly over the French Riviera advertising his design as "smaller than the smallest bathing suit in the world."[61]
Heim's design was the first to be worn on the beach, but the name given by Réard stuck with the public.[1] Despite significant social resistance, Réard received more than 50,000 letters from fans. He also initiated a bold ad campaign that told the public a two-piece swimsuit was not a genuine bikini "unless it could be pulled through a wedding ring."[69] According to Kevin Jones, curator and fashion historian at the Fashion Institute of Design & Merchandising, "Réard was ahead of his time by about 15 to 20 years. Only women in the vanguard, mostly upper-class European women embraced it."
11 November 2016 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Fabric shortage continued for some time after the end of the war. Two-piece swimsuits without the usual skirt panel and other excess material started appearing in the US when the government ordered a 10% reduction in fabric used in woman's swimwear in 1943 as wartime rationing.[ By that time, two-piece swimsuits were frequent on American beaches.
11 November 2016 00:06
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"The bathing gown in the 18th century was a loose ankle-length full-sleeve chemise-type gown made of wool or flannel, so that modesty or decency was not threatened."
11 November 2016 00:05
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"In the 1900s women wore wool dresses on the beach that were made of up to 9 yards (8.2 m) of fabric.[35] That standard of swimwear evolved into the modern bikini in the first of half of the 20th century "
11 November 2016 00:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Just related to Uni. a bit:
https://books.google.ee/books?id=gwz-wPTpeiwC&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&dq=%22University+of+Dorpat%22&source=bl&ots=hN-EPvLzPm&sig=OE6un0W1Lu16ixfmom5Bzbs8Gyw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizxq7xl5_QAhWJliwKHWz0BD8Q6AEIMjAD#v=onepage&q=%22University%20of%20Dorpat%22&f=false
https://books.google.ee/books?id=gwz-wPTpeiwC&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&dq=%22University+of+Dorpat%22&source=bl&ots=hN-EPvLzPm&sig=OE6un0W1Lu16ixfmom5Bzbs8Gyw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizxq7xl5_QAhWJliwKHWz0BD8Q6AEIMjAD#v=onepage&q=%22University%20of%20Dorpat%22&f=false
https://books.google.ee/books?id=gwz-wPTpeiwC&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&dq=%22University+of+Dorpat%22&source=bl&ots=hN-EPvLzPm&sig=OE6un0W1Lu16ixfmom5Bzbs8Gyw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizxq7xl5_QAhWJliwKHWz0BD8Q6AEIMjAD#v=onepage&q=%22University%20of%20Dorpat%22&f=false
11 November 2016 00:02
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The seventeen-shot Redwing series followed—eleven tests at Enewetak Atoll and six at Bikini. The island residents who had been promised they would be able to return home to Bikini was thwarted indefinitely by the U.S. decision to resume nuclear testing at Bikini in 1954. During 1954, 1956, and 1958, twenty-one more nuclear bombs were detonated at Bikini, yielding a total of 75 megatons of TNT (310 PJ),
equivalent to more than three thousand Baker bombs.
//Baker was on same strenght as Nakasaky Fat Boy 21 kT
Only one was an air burst, the 3.8 megaTon (3800 kT) Redwing Cherokee test. Air bursts distribute fallout in a large area, but surface bursts produce intense local fallout.[32] These tests were followed by the 33-shot Hardtack tests which began in late April 1958
equivalent to more than three thousand Baker bombs.
//Baker was on same strenght as Nakasaky Fat Boy 21 kT
Only one was an air burst, the 3.8 megaTon (3800 kT) Redwing Cherokee test. Air bursts distribute fallout in a large area, but surface bursts produce intense local fallout.[32] These tests were followed by the 33-shot Hardtack tests which began in late April 1958
10 November 2016 23:37
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Edward Teller, one of the driving minds behind the development of the hydrogen bomb, and architect of the Marshall Island tests, upon learning of the death of the Japanese fisherman through the mass media which painted his death as a anti-nuclear casus belli, commented, “It’s unreasonable to make such a big deal over the death of a fisherman.”[30][need quotation to verify] Eleven of the crewmen eventually died of radiation-related illnesses.[citation needed] The unexpected size of the explosion and the accidental fallout that contaminated a wide area sparked international criticism of atmospheric thermonuclear testing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Teller
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Teller
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Teller
10 November 2016 23:30
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The Rongelap Atoll was coated with up to 2 centimetres (0.79 in) of snow-like irradiated calcium debris and ash over the entire island. Virtually all the inhabitants experienced severe radiation sickness, including itchiness, sore skin, vomiting, diarrhea, and fatigue. Their symptoms also included burning eyes and swelling of the neck, arms, and legs. The inhabitants were forced to abandon the islands, leaving all their belongings, three days after the test. They were relocated to Kwajalein for medical treatment.
Six days after the Castle Bravo test, the U.S government set up a secret project to study the medical effects of the weapon on the residents of the Marshall Islands.[26]
The United States was subsequently accused of using the inhabitants as medical research subjects, without obtaining their consent, to study the effects of nuclear exposure.[22] Until that time, the United States Atomic Energy Commission had given little thought to the potential impact of widespread fallout contamination and health and ecological impacts beyond the formally designated boundary of the test site
Six days after the Castle Bravo test, the U.S government set up a secret project to study the medical effects of the weapon on the residents of the Marshall Islands.[26]
The United States was subsequently accused of using the inhabitants as medical research subjects, without obtaining their consent, to study the effects of nuclear exposure.[22] Until that time, the United States Atomic Energy Commission had given little thought to the potential impact of widespread fallout contamination and health and ecological impacts beyond the formally designated boundary of the test site
10 November 2016 23:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sure this King had a lot to say and comment:
Crossroads consisted of two detonations, each with a yield of 23 kilotons of TNT (96 terajoules). Able was detonated over Bikini on July 1, 1946 and exploded at an altitude of 520 feet (160 m) but was dropped by aircraft about 1,500 to 2,000 feet (460 to 610 m) off target.[10] It sank only five of the ships in the lagoon. The second, Baker, was detonated underwater at a depth of 90 feet (27 m) on July 25, sinking eight ships.[10] The second, underwater blast created a large condensation cloud and contaminated the ships with more radioactive water than was expected. Many of the surviving ships were too contaminated to be used again for testing and were sunk. The air-borne nuclear detonation raised the surface seawater temperature by 55,000 °C (99,000 °F), created blast waves with speeds of up to 8 metres per second (26 ft/s), and shock and surface waves up to 30 metres (98 ft) high. Blast columns reached the floor of the lagoon which is approximately 70 metres (230 ft) deep.[2] The Bikini Island King visited Bikini Atoll in July after the second atomic bomb test code-named Baker and found it apparently in good condition
Crossroads consisted of two detonations, each with a yield of 23 kilotons of TNT (96 terajoules). Able was detonated over Bikini on July 1, 1946 and exploded at an altitude of 520 feet (160 m) but was dropped by aircraft about 1,500 to 2,000 feet (460 to 610 m) off target.[10] It sank only five of the ships in the lagoon. The second, Baker, was detonated underwater at a depth of 90 feet (27 m) on July 25, sinking eight ships.[10] The second, underwater blast created a large condensation cloud and contaminated the ships with more radioactive water than was expected. Many of the surviving ships were too contaminated to be used again for testing and were sunk. The air-borne nuclear detonation raised the surface seawater temperature by 55,000 °C (99,000 °F), created blast waves with speeds of up to 8 metres per second (26 ft/s), and shock and surface waves up to 30 metres (98 ft) high. Blast columns reached the floor of the lagoon which is approximately 70 metres (230 ft) deep.[2] The Bikini Island King visited Bikini Atoll in July after the second atomic bomb test code-named Baker and found it apparently in good condition
10 November 2016 23:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This aria was kind of planned for elimination:
The Bikini Atoll lagoon was designated a ship graveyard by the United States Navy. The United States brought in 95 ships including carriers, battleships, cruisers, destroyers, submarines, attack transports, landing ships, and auxiliary vessels from across the world to test the durability of ships to withstand a nuclear impact (including Admiral Yamamoto's 738 feet (225 m) former flagship).
The task force placed tanks, bulldozers, and other military machinery on the island, along with 150 airplanes on the island's airstrip, to test the effect of a nuclear weapon. The proxy fleet if active would have comprised the sixth largest naval fleet in the world. All carried varying amounts of fuel and some carried live ordnance
The Bikini Atoll lagoon was designated a ship graveyard by the United States Navy. The United States brought in 95 ships including carriers, battleships, cruisers, destroyers, submarines, attack transports, landing ships, and auxiliary vessels from across the world to test the durability of ships to withstand a nuclear impact (including Admiral Yamamoto's 738 feet (225 m) former flagship).
The task force placed tanks, bulldozers, and other military machinery on the island, along with 150 airplanes on the island's airstrip, to test the effect of a nuclear weapon. The proxy fleet if active would have comprised the sixth largest naval fleet in the world. All carried varying amounts of fuel and some carried live ordnance
10 November 2016 23:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Them really was in to 42.. that is Hz of Earth heart...
"To conduct the tests, the United States assembled a support fleet of more than 242 ships that provided quarters, experimental stations, and workshops for more than 42,000 personnel. The test weapons produced a combined fission yield of 42.2 Mt of explosive power.
The islands were primarily used as recreation and instrumentation sites,
Including the enetertaiment places like: "Up and Atom Officer's Club" and the "Cross Spikes Club", a bar and hangout created by servicemen on Bikini Island between June and September 1946 during the preparation for Operation Crossroads. The "club" was little more than a small open-air building that served alcohol to servicemen and provided outdoor entertainment, including a ping pong table
"To conduct the tests, the United States assembled a support fleet of more than 242 ships that provided quarters, experimental stations, and workshops for more than 42,000 personnel. The test weapons produced a combined fission yield of 42.2 Mt of explosive power.
The islands were primarily used as recreation and instrumentation sites,
Including the enetertaiment places like: "Up and Atom Officer's Club" and the "Cross Spikes Club", a bar and hangout created by servicemen on Bikini Island between June and September 1946 during the preparation for Operation Crossroads. The "club" was little more than a small open-air building that served alcohol to servicemen and provided outdoor entertainment, including a ping pong table
10 November 2016 23:20
Margus Meigo commented on Jack Allen's post.
Group: Friends of Urantia Book Fellowship
falcestill,
why would ones beard to be cut...10 November 2016 23:04
Margus Meigo commented on Jack Allen's post.
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why is that cut beard picture a Jesus related?10 November 2016 23:02
Margus Meigo commented on Jack Allen's post.
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i just cant take it anymore, another one with cut beard+10 November 2016 23:02
Margus Meigo commented on Jack Allen's post.
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please try to find original artist and tell him to stop painting these cut beard propaganda , it is hurting to see10 November 2016 23:01
Margus Meigo commented on Jack Allen's post.
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okey when i told on last picture, "why not bold then (if beard is cut)"
i did not really literally think so, but it seems to go in that directing with next one , does he wear tie also +10 November 2016 23:00
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another one with a cut down beard again, why not bold then top of that ?10 November 2016 22:59
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another one with cut beard,.. what a terrible lie and bad fashion to spread about one of the core important element10 November 2016 22:59
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why is people insisting he cut ones beard all the time.. what kind of perversion is that10 November 2016 22:58
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10 November 2016 22:53
Margus Meigo commented on David Kantor's post.
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"Really Weird to be Human"
Thank You!10 November 2016 22:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
@ Same time, need to find ways to Help Her kind also : https://youtu.be/h7xDfqSAdh0
10 November 2016 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
või on eila veel?
10 November 2016 20:36
Margus Meigo replied to Juu Rikas's comment.
igasugused 3-way'd, vabasuhted, avalikud seksid tänavatest liftideni.. aasiast muude maadeni on ammu olnud, ei ihalda neid aegu tagasi, kui oleks valida, kuigi mul to aeg möödus kogu see periood probleemide ja draamade vabalt, sest ma kunagi ühtegi naist ei manipuleerinud ega kasutanud, vaid olin siiralt, nii kuidas Neile minu meeles parim olla saaks,
Olen võrgutamise vastu, kuig vahest vast teeme seda, ilma, et ise aru saaksime
kuid nüüd mõistnud, et oleks vast saanud veel parem olla, kui poleks üldse olnud, mine tea.. mine tea...
Oluline on, et siiani iga viimne kui üks on südames, ja tänulik,
kõige rohkem muidugi on südames üks ja ainus armastus
Olen võrgutamise vastu, kuig vahest vast teeme seda, ilma, et ise aru saaksime
kuid nüüd mõistnud, et oleks vast saanud veel parem olla, kui poleks üldse olnud, mine tea.. mine tea...
Oluline on, et siiani iga viimne kui üks on südames, ja tänulik,
kõige rohkem muidugi on südames üks ja ainus armastus
10 November 2016 19:49
Margus Meigo replied to Juu Rikas's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov siis alles hakkab õÕige tuti kummardamine pihta
kuid mondaaega peabki dieedil olema, et aru saaks, millest ilma oled, ja kui seksuaal iha ammu möödunud on, siis alles hakkavad õigemad mõtted esile tulema, kui ihad peale ihade möödumist ka uute ja ilusamatega koos olles esile ei tule enne hoolimist ja Tegelike vajadusi
kuid mondaaega peabki dieedil olema, et aru saaks, millest ilma oled, ja kui seksuaal iha ammu möödunud on, siis alles hakkavad õigemad mõtted esile tulema, kui ihad peale ihade möödumist ka uute ja ilusamatega koos olles esile ei tule enne hoolimist ja Tegelike vajadusi
10 November 2016 19:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi arvestades, et linn ainult 800 eurot selle eluspuu eest raatsis inimesele anda, võib tolle krimi uudiste alla ikka paigutada.
Igasuguste lipsumeeste ja reklaamide eest mis htkelised, makstakse tuhandeid, mida suurem osa ei näe ja veel suurem osa ei hooli.. kui aga midagi mis pikalt kogu riigi olulisema näidispuuna pühademal ajal...siis raadsitakse Eesti rikkama linna poolt korralikule maamehele anda ikka suht vähe, see pole isegi tavapärane kuu palk'ki ju.
kuid moh, ta ise ka ütles, et ega ta miskit ei soovigi, Eestlasliku viisaka tagasioidlikusega
teisest reaalsusest vaadates, hea, et niigi palju kingiti.
(kuuse ehtimiseks läheb üle 7000 euro... normaalne oleks kui inimesed hinnata oskaks kuuske sedasi, et ehete väärtus puu enda väärtusest kuni 10% oleks.. see aitaks ka inimeste südamesse väärtuslikumaid väärtusi tuua, selles osas, mis need puud Tegelikult on... kui vaid teataks..)
Igasuguste lipsumeeste ja reklaamide eest mis htkelised, makstakse tuhandeid, mida suurem osa ei näe ja veel suurem osa ei hooli.. kui aga midagi mis pikalt kogu riigi olulisema näidispuuna pühademal ajal...siis raadsitakse Eesti rikkama linna poolt korralikule maamehele anda ikka suht vähe, see pole isegi tavapärane kuu palk'ki ju.
kuid moh, ta ise ka ütles, et ega ta miskit ei soovigi, Eestlasliku viisaka tagasioidlikusega
teisest reaalsusest vaadates, hea, et niigi palju kingiti.
(kuuse ehtimiseks läheb üle 7000 euro... normaalne oleks kui inimesed hinnata oskaks kuuske sedasi, et ehete väärtus puu enda väärtusest kuni 10% oleks.. see aitaks ka inimeste südamesse väärtuslikumaid väärtusi tuua, selles osas, mis need puud Tegelikult on... kui vaid teataks..)
10 November 2016 19:39
Margus Meigo replied to Maritta Matsalu's comment.
naTSA jah,
eks ta kuskil soome linna HEL(L)-sink-i st edasi ela :)
eks ta kuskil soome linna HEL(L)-sink-i st edasi ela :)
10 November 2016 19:31
Margus Meigo replied to Janika Lillakas's comment.
Liivapõllu jup.
Tere Jaanika, kuidas hästi läinud on me silmarõõm?
Tere Jaanika, kuidas hästi läinud on me silmarõõm?
10 November 2016 19:29
Margus Meigo replied to Juu Rikas's comment.
Kuid sellega nagu piibliga, et tuleb aru saada,
väga feministlik ja Matriarhaalne, piibli poolne sõnum sellepõhjal mida siiani näinud olen,
väga feministlik ja Matriarhaalne, piibli poolne sõnum sellepõhjal mida siiani näinud olen,
10 November 2016 19:26
Margus Meigo replied to Juu Rikas's comment.
see on ka neil asjakohane laul siia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM1LOMZjFJ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM1LOMZjFJ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM1LOMZjFJ4
10 November 2016 19:20
Margus Meigo replied to Juu Rikas's comment.
kuulan veel korra :)
10 November 2016 19:15
Margus Meigo replied to Juu Rikas's comment.
Kummad?
Vene või Inglise?
Vene või Inglise?
10 November 2016 19:15
Margus Meigo replied to Juu Rikas's comment.
Piibutamine ja Vaimu suitsudega magatamine on sutsu teine teema, ...aga kes ikka läbi filtri imeb..
Frank Sinatra on ka tuntud kurb kurjuse kandja mees, kes kurvalt laulab kuidas ta ei saanud lõppude lõppuks hakkama.. kuidas samm sammu haaval arglikult elus ringi liikus...
kuid jah, see lipsumees .. on lipsumees...
Frank Sinatra on ka tuntud kurb kurjuse kandja mees, kes kurvalt laulab kuidas ta ei saanud lõppude lõppuks hakkama.. kuidas samm sammu haaval arglikult elus ringi liikus...
kuid jah, see lipsumees .. on lipsumees...
10 November 2016 19:14
Margus Meigo replied to Juu Rikas's comment.
Kuid kahjuks jah, sellised mehed kes sigarettide IMEMISEGA, mis siis jällegi homo tegevus tegelevad, on ikka enamasti väga nõrgad ja äbarikud kui see VAIM neilt oma riista seest võtab ja nad muutuvad ikka väga manipuleeritavaks ja kottitavaks, kui oma päevast imemist tehtud ei saa.
Suitsu homo seos ammu teada, naisigi ju saadi suitsetama, sest USA teadlased alsutasid sellega, et ehitasid psüholoogilsii süsteeme, mis selgitasid kuidas sutis on riist, naise oma riist mida ta saab iseseisvalt ise imeda millal iganes soovib , et see näitab ise-SEISVUST ... ja nu näe toimiski.. see päris hea Doc sari oli, palju muud ka sääl, proovin lingi leida kui huvi
Suitsu homo seos ammu teada, naisigi ju saadi suitsetama, sest USA teadlased alsutasid sellega, et ehitasid psüholoogilsii süsteeme, mis selgitasid kuidas sutis on riist, naise oma riist mida ta saab iseseisvalt ise imeda millal iganes soovib , et see näitab ise-SEISVUST ... ja nu näe toimiski.. see päris hea Doc sari oli, palju muud ka sääl, proovin lingi leida kui huvi
10 November 2016 19:11
Margus Meigo replied to Juu Rikas's comment.
Sest lugeja pole õppinud samal ajal mõtlema, tundma ja arukalt edasi lugema tagasihoidlikult nüüd küll ei ole ei käsiraamatu ega tolle kirjutaja süü.
Mitmele piiblile isegi juurde tahakaanele pea sada lehte manuaali pandud, selgitamaks mida ja kuidas lugeda, et ka need kes ei mõista mida Pühakiri tähendab, saaks oma osa, isegi kui ta seeaeg kui mõistust jagati potipõhjani vaevu oma laiskuse ja kangekaelsuse pärast jõudis
Laulus väga selge sõnum muidugi:
Mitmele piiblile isegi juurde tahakaanele pea sada lehte manuaali pandud, selgitamaks mida ja kuidas lugeda, et ka need kes ei mõista mida Pühakiri tähendab, saaks oma osa, isegi kui ta seeaeg kui mõistust jagati potipõhjani vaevu oma laiskuse ja kangekaelsuse pärast jõudis
Laulus väga selge sõnum muidugi:
10 November 2016 19:09
Margus Meigo replied to Juu Rikas's comment.
Homodel isegi nende lipp, on vikerkaare värvides, meeldetuletamaks nede südamele Jumala lepingut,
ja kohe kui oma mitte uskumise unustama hakkavad, elu raskematel perjoodidel.. siis tuleb meelde...
ja siis ollakse kibestunud, kui lihtsalt.. ellu jäätakse kuid olukord on ikka häbiväärne,
Kuid see olukord siin nii hariv on, et ma selle lause salvestasin eraldi weebi ka, siis lihtsam jagada ja kui kord kustutatud saab, siis jääb teistele samasugustele hoiatuseks, kes naise vastalikusega siin naljatama tulevad,
Varsti onneks ajad, kus me üksvaaval, teistele opetuseks, need iniemsed metsa viime, tugevad vaimuroud sisse anname ja laseme kurja välja öökida ja aju ümber seadistada (ja kui ka läheb katki, mis harv juhus, pole ka hullu, sest ikka parem kui kondiv must vari)
ennekõike muidugi naisekahjustajad tuleb võtta ette, niisama homod kes aru ei saagi, et nad homod on, las nemad veel küpsevad ja arenevad, leiavad ehk ise tee JUmalani
http://margus-meigo.blogspot.com.ee/2016/11/piiblist-rindadeni.html
ja kohe kui oma mitte uskumise unustama hakkavad, elu raskematel perjoodidel.. siis tuleb meelde...
ja siis ollakse kibestunud, kui lihtsalt.. ellu jäätakse kuid olukord on ikka häbiväärne,
Kuid see olukord siin nii hariv on, et ma selle lause salvestasin eraldi weebi ka, siis lihtsam jagada ja kui kord kustutatud saab, siis jääb teistele samasugustele hoiatuseks, kes naise vastalikusega siin naljatama tulevad,
Varsti onneks ajad, kus me üksvaaval, teistele opetuseks, need iniemsed metsa viime, tugevad vaimuroud sisse anname ja laseme kurja välja öökida ja aju ümber seadistada (ja kui ka läheb katki, mis harv juhus, pole ka hullu, sest ikka parem kui kondiv must vari)
ennekõike muidugi naisekahjustajad tuleb võtta ette, niisama homod kes aru ei saagi, et nad homod on, las nemad veel küpsevad ja arenevad, leiavad ehk ise tee JUmalani
http://margus-meigo.blogspot.com.ee/2016/11/piiblist-rindadeni.html
http://margus-meigo.blogspot.com.ee/2016/11/piiblist-rindadeni.html
10 November 2016 18:53
Margus Meigo replied to Juu Rikas's comment.
ja siin siis GaGa seletus nende homode osas, kes tõesi, siit maalt mul pole mure likivdeerida, ja sellega ka tegeletakse,
mitte veel küll füüsilisel nähtaval tasemel, kuid sedasi küll, et neid ei sünniks,
Ja ku isünnivad siis on nad ennast täis mehemürakate asemel femiinsemad psüholoogiliselt nähtavalt nõrgad ja teis ennast hävitavad peded, et selline Greeka-Rooma mees homo liit, tapetud saaks, ka füüsilisel tasandil,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA
mitte veel küll füüsilisel nähtaval tasemel, kuid sedasi küll, et neid ei sünniks,
Ja ku isünnivad siis on nad ennast täis mehemürakate asemel femiinsemad psüholoogiliselt nähtavalt nõrgad ja teis ennast hävitavad peded, et selline Greeka-Rooma mees homo liit, tapetud saaks, ka füüsilisel tasandil,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA
10 November 2016 18:47
Margus Meigo replied to Juu Rikas's comment.
õnneks sellise pederastide filosoofia kandjad enam kaugele ei arene (või pigem homoseksuaalse, pederastid need kellel otsene eri tõmme veel poiste osas, kuid homo filosoofia kandjal seda olema ei pea, et Greeka-Rooma gay kultuuri Juhtidele alluv lupard olla )
ehk siis kes pigem ründab argusest oma vastasena näivat naist, keda julgeb oma narglikus nõrkuses, kui seda kellega alateadvuses semutseb, ehk siis teist Kurja
(sest kui keegi teadlikult teise mehe naist nagu jagatavat kumminaist kasutab. .... ja eeldavasti suurem osa veel igasuguseid keelatud võrgutusnippe ja pealesõitmisi ja algse mehe puudujääke ära kasutab... siis see sunnik ju ei vääri sama Maa jagamist)
sest eks muidugi, alateadvuses ju mees teab, et Naine teadlikult ei peta kui oma mees puudulik pole... ja see teeb valu... kuid samas kuna endal patune meel naudib ja kummardab fallose vallutamist, ja teise mehe türa kummardamist, kes teda allutas tema naise üle võtmisega, siis loomulikult psüholoogiliselt pigem sellised mehed austavad ja lausa kardavad teist meest ja oma lyyasaamist saavad välja elada ainult kellegi peal kellest kindlalt üle on ja kes ei tule kätte maksma .. keda sellistel värdjatel nauditav on peksta, sest nende sees olev kurjus põlastab naisi.
isegi kui nad ise ennast veenda soovivad, et nad nagu hetrod on, ... muidugi nad teavad vähe selle sõna tegelikust täehendusest, ku iselline väärastumine juba sisse tulnud on või kui seda kasvõi naljatades aksepteerib keegi lauas.
kõik need versioonid väliselt pole samasugused lipsukandjad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWbLkXhGEmo
kuid üldjuhul nad on lihtsalt eri versioonis, ennast peegli ees lakkuvad ja VÄLISE ilma jaoks ilustavad mehed, ... kes nädalas mitu korda peeglisse vahivad.
Moned olitavad ennast jõusaalis ja vahivad ja võrdlevad üksteise kehasi, mõned teised proovivad muid vabandusi leida teiste meeste ligi pöherdamiseks, läbi eri sportide või isegi baari kakluste
Katy & GaGa on homode paljastuse päris hästi ette võtnud,
ehk siis kes pigem ründab argusest oma vastasena näivat naist, keda julgeb oma narglikus nõrkuses, kui seda kellega alateadvuses semutseb, ehk siis teist Kurja
(sest kui keegi teadlikult teise mehe naist nagu jagatavat kumminaist kasutab. .... ja eeldavasti suurem osa veel igasuguseid keelatud võrgutusnippe ja pealesõitmisi ja algse mehe puudujääke ära kasutab... siis see sunnik ju ei vääri sama Maa jagamist)
sest eks muidugi, alateadvuses ju mees teab, et Naine teadlikult ei peta kui oma mees puudulik pole... ja see teeb valu... kuid samas kuna endal patune meel naudib ja kummardab fallose vallutamist, ja teise mehe türa kummardamist, kes teda allutas tema naise üle võtmisega, siis loomulikult psüholoogiliselt pigem sellised mehed austavad ja lausa kardavad teist meest ja oma lyyasaamist saavad välja elada ainult kellegi peal kellest kindlalt üle on ja kes ei tule kätte maksma .. keda sellistel värdjatel nauditav on peksta, sest nende sees olev kurjus põlastab naisi.
isegi kui nad ise ennast veenda soovivad, et nad nagu hetrod on, ... muidugi nad teavad vähe selle sõna tegelikust täehendusest, ku iselline väärastumine juba sisse tulnud on või kui seda kasvõi naljatades aksepteerib keegi lauas.
kõik need versioonid väliselt pole samasugused lipsukandjad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWbLkXhGEmo
kuid üldjuhul nad on lihtsalt eri versioonis, ennast peegli ees lakkuvad ja VÄLISE ilma jaoks ilustavad mehed, ... kes nädalas mitu korda peeglisse vahivad.
Moned olitavad ennast jõusaalis ja vahivad ja võrdlevad üksteise kehasi, mõned teised proovivad muid vabandusi leida teiste meeste ligi pöherdamiseks, läbi eri sportide või isegi baari kakluste
Katy & GaGa on homode paljastuse päris hästi ette võtnud,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWbLkXhGEmo
10 November 2016 18:45
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja et siis:
arusaamiseks, ...moned muidugi arvavad, et juba tunnevad karuaabitsat.... aga tegelikult teavad ainult selle olemasolu, mitte aga olemust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGIeeQtL_SE&index=3&list=PLtA4If1Hfre2HOSif2sr0u8DHlfZqNb8l
arusaamiseks, ...moned muidugi arvavad, et juba tunnevad karuaabitsat.... aga tegelikult teavad ainult selle olemasolu, mitte aga olemust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGIeeQtL_SE&index=3&list=PLtA4If1Hfre2HOSif2sr0u8DHlfZqNb8l
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGIeeQtL_SE&index=3&list=PLtA4If1Hfre2HOSif2sr0u8DHlfZqNb8l
10 November 2016 18:23
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
teoorias küll jah, seni aga kui aru ei saada, et on tehnoloogiad mitte füüsilised millega füüsilisi objekte saab liigutada, mõjutada ja ise ennast hävitama panna, senikaua "ise vastutust võtta" on äärmiselt naiivne idee, ... sobib küll sellisesse roosasse aeda, romantilise muusika ja pool hõjuvates ideaalides elavata romantiliste fanaaseerivate ühiskondade või iseenda jaoks elavate erakute jaoks, kuid
reaalses maailmas,
tuleb natukene täiskasvanulikult mõelda, üles kasvada.
Jumal isegi algelised tehnoloogiad nagu raadio, robotid, wifi jms siia kõrgvaimsete olendite keskele toonud on, et ka kõige madalamad, madalaima " IQ ga" inimesed ka lihtsasti aru saaks, kuidas ja miks mingi raadio side või muu energia midagi mõjutada saab, ja siis veel omakorda pool hybriide ehitatakse, et üleminekust veelgi kergemini aru saada...
muidugi eks võtab aega, kuni karuaabitsastki arusaama hakatakse
1 Corinthians 13:11
" When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things. "
http://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Becoming-An-Adult
reaalses maailmas,
tuleb natukene täiskasvanulikult mõelda, üles kasvada.
Jumal isegi algelised tehnoloogiad nagu raadio, robotid, wifi jms siia kõrgvaimsete olendite keskele toonud on, et ka kõige madalamad, madalaima " IQ ga" inimesed ka lihtsasti aru saaks, kuidas ja miks mingi raadio side või muu energia midagi mõjutada saab, ja siis veel omakorda pool hybriide ehitatakse, et üleminekust veelgi kergemini aru saada...
muidugi eks võtab aega, kuni karuaabitsastki arusaama hakatakse
1 Corinthians 13:11
" When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things. "
http://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Becoming-An-Adult
http://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Becoming-An-Adult
10 November 2016 18:23
Margus Meigo replied to Juu Rikas's comment.
loodetavasti nõustute ka elementaarsega, et igal mehel on õigus ilma pikema jututa see mees maha lüüa, kes tema naise pessa oma munad toppinud on,
mitte selliste liberaalsete "naiste jagamise" ideede pooldajad, kus suvalised vandid Sinu naist panna võivad, paika ja neid üle pritsida oma seemnega, kohti mida sa õhtul suudled õrnuses
mitte selliste liberaalsete "naiste jagamise" ideede pooldajad, kus suvalised vandid Sinu naist panna võivad, paika ja neid üle pritsida oma seemnega, kohti mida sa õhtul suudled õrnuses
10 November 2016 18:10
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Nagu, Eesti noored teavad, refräänis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EkBk9qnK50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EkBk9qnK50
10 November 2016 18:07
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Näe, aina paremaks läheb,
lihtsalt proovi nüüd ise ka, kõikide asjade seas mis alati olnud, jääda NENDE asjade ligi mis vajalikusele ilusamad
Meelega Su eelmise "arusaamade" all olevale viimasele kommentaarile ei vasta, oodates, et selle ise eemaldad, ... eriti kui tead,mida toodad, ligi tõmbad, lubad, kaasaaitad, õigustad, heakskiidad ja kuhu poole liigud,
ehk ka mida lood
lihtsalt proovi nüüd ise ka, kõikide asjade seas mis alati olnud, jääda NENDE asjade ligi mis vajalikusele ilusamad
Meelega Su eelmise "arusaamade" all olevale viimasele kommentaarile ei vasta, oodates, et selle ise eemaldad, ... eriti kui tead,mida toodad, ligi tõmbad, lubad, kaasaaitad, õigustad, heakskiidad ja kuhu poole liigud,
ehk ka mida lood
10 November 2016 18:05
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Nu mis ma ütlesin, et asjad Paranevad
10 November 2016 18:01
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Räägid umbes nagu väike häbenev poiss tüdrukute osas "iiu... ",
Vaimumaailmas vaadatakse sellist asja täpselt sellel tasemel,
Kui Sul Süda päriselt nende asjade vastu oleks, siis Sa üldse ei räägikski nendest asjadest nii
õnneks on näha, et asjad paranevad
Vaimumaailmas vaadatakse sellist asja täpselt sellel tasemel,
Kui Sul Süda päriselt nende asjade vastu oleks, siis Sa üldse ei räägikski nendest asjadest nii
õnneks on näha, et asjad paranevad
10 November 2016 17:55
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
piibel on ikka Sinu enda asi kus hoiad ja kuidas,
10 November 2016 17:46
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Nu mis Sa mulle oma imtiimseid asju siin avalikult seletad, kuid õnneks on näha, et tead täpselt kus asub, see ongi peamine
puht patused ei leiaks üles ja ei teaks kus on mis, Sul raamatu täpsusega asukoht teada, mis on väga armas ja tubli, ma alati uskunud, et sinu potensiaalist saab asja
puht patused ei leiaks üles ja ei teaks kus on mis, Sul raamatu täpsusega asukoht teada, mis on väga armas ja tubli, ma alati uskunud, et sinu potensiaalist saab asja
10 November 2016 17:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(ei tegelikult ära hakka ka, ikkagi ... patt, ehk inimliiki mitte arendav, mitte kasulik tegevus, ....veel olemas surmapatud ka, nagu naise löömine jms)
10 November 2016 17:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hakka homoks ja vaata siis edasi, kas on
10 November 2016 17:43
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kus iganes Sinule kõige käepärasem ja kõrgemalt hinnatuim koht on Raimond,
10 November 2016 17:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sest kes ainuüksi juba mõtleb teisest naisest, on juba patu teinud,
(lisaks sellele, et naised neid mõtteid näevad ja tunnevad ning siis emotsioonidega ja tujudega need tagasi mängivad,)
(lisaks sellele, et naised neid mõtteid näevad ja tunnevad ning siis emotsioonidega ja tujudega need tagasi mängivad,)
10 November 2016 17:41
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's photo.
Tore, et Sa Biiblilike arusaame toetad, lõpuks ometi, ja paganlikust karjas kargamise filosoofia toetamisest kaugel oled
10 November 2016 17:39
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Lihtsustamiseks, see koht siis mida küsisid:
"Adonai, God, said, “It isn’t good that the person should be alone. I will make for him a companion suitable for helping him.” 19 So from the ground Adonai, God, formed every wild animal and every bird that flies in the air, and he brought them to the person to see what he would call them. Whatever the person would call each living creature, that was to be its name. (S: iii) 20 So the person gave names to all the livestock, to the birds in the air and to every wild animal. But for Adam there was not found a companion suitable for helping him.
21 Then God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the person; and while he was sleeping, he took one of his ribs and closed up the place from which he took it with flesh. 22 The rib which Adonai, God, had taken from the person, he made a woman-person; and he brought her to the man-person. 23 The man-person said, “At last! This is bone from my bones and flesh from my flesh. She is to be called Woman [c], because she was taken out of Man [d].” 24 This is why a man is to leave his father and mother and stick with his wife, and they are to be one flesh.
25 They were both naked, the man and his wife, and they were not ashamed."
"Adonai, God, said, “It isn’t good that the person should be alone. I will make for him a companion suitable for helping him.” 19 So from the ground Adonai, God, formed every wild animal and every bird that flies in the air, and he brought them to the person to see what he would call them. Whatever the person would call each living creature, that was to be its name. (S: iii) 20 So the person gave names to all the livestock, to the birds in the air and to every wild animal. But for Adam there was not found a companion suitable for helping him.
21 Then God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the person; and while he was sleeping, he took one of his ribs and closed up the place from which he took it with flesh. 22 The rib which Adonai, God, had taken from the person, he made a woman-person; and he brought her to the man-person. 23 The man-person said, “At last! This is bone from my bones and flesh from my flesh. She is to be called Woman [c], because she was taken out of Man [d].” 24 This is why a man is to leave his father and mother and stick with his wife, and they are to be one flesh.
25 They were both naked, the man and his wife, and they were not ashamed."
10 November 2016 17:30
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Elementaarne, sellest sõna ka ABI-ELU (mite see pole mingi liit kus mees HOIAB naist, vaid liit kus mhe Elu-Hinge jaoks on abi kindlustatud, ehk oleks allutanud ennast jumalale, ehk aksepteerinud abi mille Jumal Sulle andis, Naise kes ennast oli nõus Sulle andma, Sinu armastamise ja kogu kõige abistamise osas kus võimalik, isegi sinu valule kaasa tundma ja selle enda kanda võtma kui vaid võimalik, .... ja kui pole võimalik siis tunnevad kaasa ikkagi ja valu, et Sul raske, see elementaarne miinimum igal naisel keda mees pole jõundud veel ära rikkuda jumalavastaste tegudega )
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2%3A4-3%3A24
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2%3A4-3%3A24
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2%3A4-3%3A24
10 November 2016 17:29
Margus Meigo replied to Tenzin Shares's comment.
maybe Jesus times compare a bit, maybe
10 November 2016 17:11
Margus Meigo replied to Tenzin Shares's comment.
best we ever had, compared to potential
10 November 2016 17:11
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Muidugi Naisterahvas iseenesest ei saa olla mölakas,
kellegi muu kui mölaka enda meeles.
Kuna Eeva saadeti mittehakkama saavale Aadamile appi, siis meelestab keskmised vajadused ja hetkeolukorra enda seisundis Naine selle järgi mis tema ümber toimub.
Nad ei fantaseeri ja ei onaneeri kaugete õhkõrnade kosmoste ja robotite ideede ja tudmatude teoreetiliste filosoofiate peale, sest need ideed, on tõesti nende kosmoses, kaugel, sellest kus elu paikneb ja alati paiknema jääb.
kellegi muu kui mölaka enda meeles.
Kuna Eeva saadeti mittehakkama saavale Aadamile appi, siis meelestab keskmised vajadused ja hetkeolukorra enda seisundis Naine selle järgi mis tema ümber toimub.
Nad ei fantaseeri ja ei onaneeri kaugete õhkõrnade kosmoste ja robotite ideede ja tudmatude teoreetiliste filosoofiate peale, sest need ideed, on tõesti nende kosmoses, kaugel, sellest kus elu paikneb ja alati paiknema jääb.
10 November 2016 17:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(for irony proof people: last wording is a version of a humor)
10 November 2016 14:21
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
loodanka,et ikka enamust tehakse millest räägiti, muidu mölakas kes ajaloo kultuuri häbisse jääb on positsioonil suurte lubadustega ja kui lunadusi ka tehtud ei saa siis on see küll üks inimkonna üle irvitamine
(irivtamine, eliidi enda poolt, keda AMMU juba esindavad ärimehed (kes omakorda on viisnurga taskus psüholoogiliselt), varjuvalitsusena, mõnel maal juba 1000 aastat tagasi, kelle taskus on olnud poliitikud kellele nad ette kirjutanud on millised tolvanid nad olema peavad, läbi seaduste ja reeglistiku ja moodide, nüüd siis mölakad kes meid sohu tirinud, hakkavad ise avalikult esindama kuna koll mille nad loosid on päris hapnema hakanud.. kuid jah, see osa on ikka veider, et inimesed ei saa aru, et Tema ongi Establishment, ja temasugused ongi loonud pehmed poliitikud, just sellel eesmärgil, et ... )
(irivtamine, eliidi enda poolt, keda AMMU juba esindavad ärimehed (kes omakorda on viisnurga taskus psüholoogiliselt), varjuvalitsusena, mõnel maal juba 1000 aastat tagasi, kelle taskus on olnud poliitikud kellele nad ette kirjutanud on millised tolvanid nad olema peavad, läbi seaduste ja reeglistiku ja moodide, nüüd siis mölakad kes meid sohu tirinud, hakkavad ise avalikult esindama kuna koll mille nad loosid on päris hapnema hakanud.. kuid jah, see osa on ikka veider, et inimesed ei saa aru, et Tema ongi Establishment, ja temasugused ongi loonud pehmed poliitikud, just sellel eesmärgil, et ... )
10 November 2016 14:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
B.M.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tMXKQdc5ZM&list=PLKuzFhxtS9BFe0jGXQzge2o3tEH8chKpO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tMXKQdc5ZM&list=PLKuzFhxtS9BFe0jGXQzge2o3tEH8chKpO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tMXKQdc5ZM&list=PLKuzFhxtS9BFe0jGXQzge2o3tEH8chKpO
10 November 2016 02:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Charlie Brooker’s anthology series looks at the darker sides of technology and modern life.
After many social media users (including actor Peter Serafinowicz) made jokes comparing Trump becoming President to the frightening premise for a Black Mirror episode, the Black Mirror official Twitter account responded by tweeting: “This isn’t an episode. This isn’t marketing. This is reality”.
Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/tv/black-mirror-trump-president-us-election-1837966#p8wCR6cus8VjMmOl.99
http://www.nme.com/news/tv/black-mirror-trump-president-us-election-1837966
After many social media users (including actor Peter Serafinowicz) made jokes comparing Trump becoming President to the frightening premise for a Black Mirror episode, the Black Mirror official Twitter account responded by tweeting: “This isn’t an episode. This isn’t marketing. This is reality”.
Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/tv/black-mirror-trump-president-us-election-1837966#p8wCR6cus8VjMmOl.99
http://www.nme.com/news/tv/black-mirror-trump-president-us-election-1837966
10 November 2016 02:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
...and these people who started riot and fires, they should get some proper water beating
10 November 2016 02:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and what will be stat s for going to Canada, will cCanada want `?
10 November 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
like energy and weapon one, was there actually any relevance..
10 November 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
this is little bit combined i guess.. but still. lets see
I mean, article is a bit made look more bad then it becomes, ... but hey.. still few points was worth to notice between it all, strange ones
I mean, article is a bit made look more bad then it becomes, ... but hey.. still few points was worth to notice between it all, strange ones
10 November 2016 01:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
..Demonstrators set fires and overturned cars in major cities across America.
...Former KKK leader David Duke declared tonight “one of the most exciting nights of my life”.
Canada’s immigration website crashed under the demand of American visitors.
...Former KKK leader David Duke declared tonight “one of the most exciting nights of my life”.
Canada’s immigration website crashed under the demand of American visitors.
10 November 2016 01:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//kuidas neid inimeis ravile ei saadeta ja kuidas neil oigus nii haige asjaga tegeleda
but what bothers is this over holliwood voices and...well takes spirit and seriousness out from it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOZVL4H2Uqc
but what bothers is this over holliwood voices and...well takes spirit and seriousness out from it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOZVL4H2Uqc
10 November 2016 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Look this little girl "oo he is bite me, this is funny"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMU8koPKxZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMU8koPKxZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMU8koPKxZM
10 November 2016 01:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and these humans was pretty happy really..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs_9IHXvGrQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs_9IHXvGrQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs_9IHXvGrQ
10 November 2016 01:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
wonder what is this snake thinking on mean time.. how they feel and know totally another species danger borders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J98yK5NdcM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J98yK5NdcM
10 November 2016 01:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu2vhAz26io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu2vhAz26io
10 November 2016 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtuoWcCoZAk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtuoWcCoZAk
10 November 2016 01:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but at same time, some others might not be so lucky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHZmLmKNTVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHZmLmKNTVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHZmLmKNTVE
10 November 2016 01:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
one more story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkhLDfkZck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkhLDfkZck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkhLDfkZck
10 November 2016 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
“Every aspect of our lives will be transformed. In short, success in creating AI could be the biggest event in the history of our civilisation.”
Huw Price, the centre’s academic director and the Bertrand Russell professor of philosophy at Cambridge University, where Hawking is also an academic, said that the centre came about partially as a result of the university’s Centre for Existential Risk. That institute, mocked by the tabloid press as offering “Terminator Studies”, examined a wider range of potential problems for humanity, while the LCFI has a narrow focus.
“We’ve been trying to slay the ‘terminator’ meme,” Price said, “but like its namesake, it keeps coming back for more.”
AI pioneer Margaret Boden, professor of cognitive science at the University of Sussex, praised the progress of such discussions. As recently as 2009, she said, the topic wasn’t taken seriously, even among AI researchers. “AI is hugely exciting,” she said, “but it has limitations, which present grave dangers given uncritical use.”
The academic community is not alone in warning about the potential dangers of AI as well as the potential benefits. A number of pioneers from the technology industry, most famously the entrepreneur Elon Musk, have also expressed their concerns about the damage that a super-intelligent AI could wreak on humanity.
https://www.sott.net/article/331776-Most-of-our-history-is-the-history-of-stupidity-Stephen-Hawking-lectures-about-artificial-intelligence
Huw Price, the centre’s academic director and the Bertrand Russell professor of philosophy at Cambridge University, where Hawking is also an academic, said that the centre came about partially as a result of the university’s Centre for Existential Risk. That institute, mocked by the tabloid press as offering “Terminator Studies”, examined a wider range of potential problems for humanity, while the LCFI has a narrow focus.
“We’ve been trying to slay the ‘terminator’ meme,” Price said, “but like its namesake, it keeps coming back for more.”
AI pioneer Margaret Boden, professor of cognitive science at the University of Sussex, praised the progress of such discussions. As recently as 2009, she said, the topic wasn’t taken seriously, even among AI researchers. “AI is hugely exciting,” she said, “but it has limitations, which present grave dangers given uncritical use.”
The academic community is not alone in warning about the potential dangers of AI as well as the potential benefits. A number of pioneers from the technology industry, most famously the entrepreneur Elon Musk, have also expressed their concerns about the damage that a super-intelligent AI could wreak on humanity.
https://www.sott.net/article/331776-Most-of-our-history-is-the-history-of-stupidity-Stephen-Hawking-lectures-about-artificial-intelligence
https://www.sott.net/article/331776-Most-of-our-history-is-the-history-of-stupidity-Stephen-Hawking-lectures-about-artificial-intelligence
10 November 2016 01:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
“We spend a great deal of time studying history,” Hawking said, “which, let’s face it, is mostly the history of stupidity. So it’s a welcome change that people are studying instead the future of intelligence.”
10 November 2016 00:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//yah, up to points like that // now i know what makes you special!
"By the time Mass Effect: Andromeda is released, it will have been almost five years since Bioware’s original Mass Effect trilogy ended. Since March 2012, fans have received pretty scant information about a followup to the alien-packed sci-fi saga – and yesterday (November 7) they were expecting to learn a lot more from a new trailer.
That’s because November 7 has become ‘N7 Day’ for fans – it’s a reference to the N7 military level of Mass Effect’s original protagonist Shepard – and there’s always some kind of Mass Effect day-marking gift for fans from Bioware on the day.
‘Pathfinder’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyZw_oqk7Q8
"By the time Mass Effect: Andromeda is released, it will have been almost five years since Bioware’s original Mass Effect trilogy ended. Since March 2012, fans have received pretty scant information about a followup to the alien-packed sci-fi saga – and yesterday (November 7) they were expecting to learn a lot more from a new trailer.
That’s because November 7 has become ‘N7 Day’ for fans – it’s a reference to the N7 military level of Mass Effect’s original protagonist Shepard – and there’s always some kind of Mass Effect day-marking gift for fans from Bioware on the day.
‘Pathfinder’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyZw_oqk7Q8
10 November 2016 00:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But what most of the people would need before court and before politics is:
"To solve this issue, a device called polygraph was developed, which, in theory, can provide tell-tale signs whether a person is lying depending on bodily impulses such as breathing, heart rate, and the like. The polygraph test, known as the lie detector, can also measure and record blood pressure, pulse, respiration, and skin conductivity. A person's vital signs can significantly vary whenever the person is asked a series of questions. Since this device has been developed in the twenties, it may be about time that new technologies supersede and outdate the lie detector.
New researches have indicated that there are better means of finding out whether a person is lying or not. A research from the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania has discovered that certain indicators in the brain can be used to detect lying using scans from a functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI). This research has indicated that an fMRI scan can provide an almost 90 percent accuracy in detecting deception. According to the results obtained, there are certain parts of the brain that light up on fMRI scans when a person is required to make decisions, and effectively deciding whether to lie or not can be one of them.
This method is effective because it is approximated to be about 24 percent more likely to detect dishonesty than normal lie detector tests
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/31496/20161109/fmri-perelman-school-of-medicine-lie-detector-lie-detector-test-brainwaves-brain-brain-activity-lying-human-brain-case-investigations-university-of-pennsylvania.htm
but besides the few alien stoy's this page average posts are still, worth to look time by time
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/31463/20161109/what-possibly-happen-nasa-donald-trump-wins-elections-2016.htm
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/31492/20161109/winter-beach-ice-beach-snowball-beach-russia-siberia-frigid-temperatures-arctic-circle-giant-snowballs-nyda-russia.htm
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/31443/20161109/ai-artificial-intelligence-invention-patent.htm
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/31450/20161109/robots-robot-labor-mexico-china.htm
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/31480/20161109/mit-researchers-develop-artificial-intelligence-that-can-search-for-new-drug-compounds.htm
"To solve this issue, a device called polygraph was developed, which, in theory, can provide tell-tale signs whether a person is lying depending on bodily impulses such as breathing, heart rate, and the like. The polygraph test, known as the lie detector, can also measure and record blood pressure, pulse, respiration, and skin conductivity. A person's vital signs can significantly vary whenever the person is asked a series of questions. Since this device has been developed in the twenties, it may be about time that new technologies supersede and outdate the lie detector.
New researches have indicated that there are better means of finding out whether a person is lying or not. A research from the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania has discovered that certain indicators in the brain can be used to detect lying using scans from a functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI). This research has indicated that an fMRI scan can provide an almost 90 percent accuracy in detecting deception. According to the results obtained, there are certain parts of the brain that light up on fMRI scans when a person is required to make decisions, and effectively deciding whether to lie or not can be one of them.
This method is effective because it is approximated to be about 24 percent more likely to detect dishonesty than normal lie detector tests
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/31496/20161109/fmri-perelman-school-of-medicine-lie-detector-lie-detector-test-brainwaves-brain-brain-activity-lying-human-brain-case-investigations-university-of-pennsylvania.htm
but besides the few alien stoy's this page average posts are still, worth to look time by time
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/31463/20161109/what-possibly-happen-nasa-donald-trump-wins-elections-2016.htm
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/31492/20161109/winter-beach-ice-beach-snowball-beach-russia-siberia-frigid-temperatures-arctic-circle-giant-snowballs-nyda-russia.htm
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/31443/20161109/ai-artificial-intelligence-invention-patent.htm
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/31450/20161109/robots-robot-labor-mexico-china.htm
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/31480/20161109/mit-researchers-develop-artificial-intelligence-that-can-search-for-new-drug-compounds.htm
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/31496/20161109/fmri-perelman-school-of-medicine-lie-detector-lie-detector-test-brainwaves-brain-brain-activity-lying-human-brain-case-investigations-university-of-pennsylvania.htm
10 November 2016 00:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// and yea, i guess this is why Hillary was not able to win, not in predictions :p
"While many were surprised by the billionaire’s victory in the 2016 US election, followers of Nostradamus would not have been, claiming the prophesier predicted this in the 16th century.
In Century III, Quatrain 81, Nostradamus wrote: “The great shameless, audacious bawler. He will be elected governor of the army: The boldness of his contention.
“The bridge broken, the city faint from fear.”
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// next one refers to Russia Byzant..emire yeah,
In Century 1, 40, another prediction reads: “The false trumpet concealing madness will cause Byzantium to change its laws.”
Byzantium was an Ancient Greek colony – some have connected this to the fact Greece is becoming a landing spot for immigrants and refugees, a topic that has been at the centre of Mr Trump’s candidacy.
Finally, in Quatrain 50, Nostradamus writes "the Republic of the big city” will engage in costly military operations, ordered by the “trumpet”, which has led to fears of nuclear war.
One user wrote on Facebook: “I pretty sure this is the start to Nostradamus' prediction of the Apocalypse.”
Another posted: “Nostradamus predicted this outcome. Nostradamus predicted after the trumpet wins, there will be a Great War! He predicted this 400 yrs ago!
“His prediction have all come true! I'm afraid America is going fall, compare us to Roma, we have to much debt, and we import more than we export, we are in serious trouble.”
http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/730526/donald-trump-nostradamus-end-of-the-world-hillary-clinton
"While many were surprised by the billionaire’s victory in the 2016 US election, followers of Nostradamus would not have been, claiming the prophesier predicted this in the 16th century.
In Century III, Quatrain 81, Nostradamus wrote: “The great shameless, audacious bawler. He will be elected governor of the army: The boldness of his contention.
“The bridge broken, the city faint from fear.”
-
// next one refers to Russia Byzant..emire yeah,
In Century 1, 40, another prediction reads: “The false trumpet concealing madness will cause Byzantium to change its laws.”
Byzantium was an Ancient Greek colony – some have connected this to the fact Greece is becoming a landing spot for immigrants and refugees, a topic that has been at the centre of Mr Trump’s candidacy.
Finally, in Quatrain 50, Nostradamus writes "the Republic of the big city” will engage in costly military operations, ordered by the “trumpet”, which has led to fears of nuclear war.
One user wrote on Facebook: “I pretty sure this is the start to Nostradamus' prediction of the Apocalypse.”
Another posted: “Nostradamus predicted this outcome. Nostradamus predicted after the trumpet wins, there will be a Great War! He predicted this 400 yrs ago!
“His prediction have all come true! I'm afraid America is going fall, compare us to Roma, we have to much debt, and we import more than we export, we are in serious trouble.”
http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/730526/donald-trump-nostradamus-end-of-the-world-hillary-clinton
10 November 2016 00:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and more on the same line:
"Intelligence that could shed light on the most notorious British unsolved UFO mysteries, including the Rendlesham case from 1980, has been withheld from public view, according to UFO expert Malcolm Robinson.
Mr Robinson, founder of Strange Phenomena Investigations, has collated UFO evidence for years and in 2015 presented a dossier to Downing Street, asking then Prime Minister David Cameron to open an inquiry - something that failed to materialise.
He said: "The governments of this world – including Britain – know far more than they are letting on, that's for sure."
He claimed that a tip off off from a source within the Ministry of Defence suggested that many sightings and files had been covered up."
He claims the manager of the now defunct UFO desk, Nick Pope once told him: "We don't even tell you the half of it."
The UFO department and hotline was shut in 2009 because it no longer served a "defence purpose" and was taking staff away from "more valuable defence-related activities," documents obtained under Freedom of Information later revealed.
Now declassified documents stated: "The Ministry of Defence has no opinion on the existence or otherwise of extra-terrestrial life."
It also added that, in 50 years, no UFO report had revealed evidence of a potential threat to
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Eight years since the department was culled, Mr Robinson has called for government to launch an inquiry into clusters of sightings, including cold case police files from Bonnybridge, Scotland - a case he has focussed on.
There were more than 300 UFO sightings in the small town in the 1990s.
Mr Robinson said: "The Ministry of Defence have slowly released governmental files about sightings in the UK.
"Declassified documents in the US have also been released which clearly show that the NSA were in cahoots with other nation's governments – and knew exactly what was going on
http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/730431/UK-MoD-UFO-alien-cover-up-Malcolm-Robinson
"Intelligence that could shed light on the most notorious British unsolved UFO mysteries, including the Rendlesham case from 1980, has been withheld from public view, according to UFO expert Malcolm Robinson.
Mr Robinson, founder of Strange Phenomena Investigations, has collated UFO evidence for years and in 2015 presented a dossier to Downing Street, asking then Prime Minister David Cameron to open an inquiry - something that failed to materialise.
He said: "The governments of this world – including Britain – know far more than they are letting on, that's for sure."
He claimed that a tip off off from a source within the Ministry of Defence suggested that many sightings and files had been covered up."
He claims the manager of the now defunct UFO desk, Nick Pope once told him: "We don't even tell you the half of it."
The UFO department and hotline was shut in 2009 because it no longer served a "defence purpose" and was taking staff away from "more valuable defence-related activities," documents obtained under Freedom of Information later revealed.
Now declassified documents stated: "The Ministry of Defence has no opinion on the existence or otherwise of extra-terrestrial life."
It also added that, in 50 years, no UFO report had revealed evidence of a potential threat to
-
Eight years since the department was culled, Mr Robinson has called for government to launch an inquiry into clusters of sightings, including cold case police files from Bonnybridge, Scotland - a case he has focussed on.
There were more than 300 UFO sightings in the small town in the 1990s.
Mr Robinson said: "The Ministry of Defence have slowly released governmental files about sightings in the UK.
"Declassified documents in the US have also been released which clearly show that the NSA were in cahoots with other nation's governments – and knew exactly what was going on
http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/730431/UK-MoD-UFO-alien-cover-up-Malcolm-Robinson
10 November 2016 00:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
any video that starts with that kind of Hollywood voice can be turned of... after 3 seconds or so i have learned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFj_cHnTqfE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFj_cHnTqfE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFj_cHnTqfE
10 November 2016 00:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// LoL, sure, //
highly clasified... and dailyStar reports...
"A highly classified Kremlin video has allegedly leaked online, showing a meeting between Vladimir Putin and incumbent Vice President Joe Biden, with Obama (through Biden) warning Russia of an alleged alien invasion in September 2017.
According to the Daily Star, the file titled "US warns Russia ‘Aliens on Their Way, Will Be Her in 2017" surfaced on Oct. 27. A narrator on the video said Biden was delivering a message from incumbent President Barack Obama regarding plans of a worldwide missile defense system in case of aliens invading Earth. Obama was asking for Putin's cooperation.
The alleged six-minute video says that the UFO alien invasion will occur in September 2017 after NASA confirms a wave of UFOs entering our system. Strange as it may sound, the video said that "[at that date], in the skies over Nuremberg, Germany hundreds of UFOs engaged in a battle witnessed by thousands and which can be read as reported from those times.”
Gamer's Drop reports that despite the lack of evidence, the Pentagon is interested to learn more about the fleet of UFOs allegedly entering our system and attacking Earth.
Strange and enticing to alien hunters as this maybe, no concrete reports from NASA and other space agencies has confirmed the validity of the video and the document, and this new information should be taken with a grain of salt.
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/31504/20161109/leaked-top-secret-meeting-reveals-obama-warning-putin-alien-invasion.htm
highly clasified... and dailyStar reports...
"A highly classified Kremlin video has allegedly leaked online, showing a meeting between Vladimir Putin and incumbent Vice President Joe Biden, with Obama (through Biden) warning Russia of an alleged alien invasion in September 2017.
According to the Daily Star, the file titled "US warns Russia ‘Aliens on Their Way, Will Be Her in 2017" surfaced on Oct. 27. A narrator on the video said Biden was delivering a message from incumbent President Barack Obama regarding plans of a worldwide missile defense system in case of aliens invading Earth. Obama was asking for Putin's cooperation.
The alleged six-minute video says that the UFO alien invasion will occur in September 2017 after NASA confirms a wave of UFOs entering our system. Strange as it may sound, the video said that "[at that date], in the skies over Nuremberg, Germany hundreds of UFOs engaged in a battle witnessed by thousands and which can be read as reported from those times.”
Gamer's Drop reports that despite the lack of evidence, the Pentagon is interested to learn more about the fleet of UFOs allegedly entering our system and attacking Earth.
Strange and enticing to alien hunters as this maybe, no concrete reports from NASA and other space agencies has confirmed the validity of the video and the document, and this new information should be taken with a grain of salt.
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/31504/20161109/leaked-top-secret-meeting-reveals-obama-warning-putin-alien-invasion.htm
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/31504/20161109/leaked-top-secret-meeting-reveals-obama-warning-putin-alien-invasion.htm
10 November 2016 00:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
“When machines make decisions, we want them to be clear on what stage they have reached in this process. And when they are unsure, we want them to tell us.”
One method is to build in an internal self-evaluation or calibration stage so that the machine can test its own certainty, and report back.
Two years ago, Ghahramani’s group launched the Automatic Statistician with funding from Google. The tool helps scientists analyse datasets for statistically significant patterns and, crucially, it also provides a report to explain how sure it is about its predictions.
“The difficulty with machine learning systems is you don’t really know what’s going on inside – and the answers they provide are not contextualised, like a human would do. The Automatic Statistician explains what it’s doing, in a human-understandable form.”
Where transparency becomes especially relevant is in applications like medical diagnoses, where understanding the provenance of how a decision is made is necessary to trust it.
Dr Adrian Weller, who works with Ghahramani, highlights the difficulty: “A particular issue with new artificial intelligence (AI) systems that learn or evolve is that their processes do not clearly map to rational decision-making pathways that are easy for humans to understand.” His research aims both at making these pathways more transparent, sometimes through visualisation, and at looking at what happens when systems are used in real-world scenarios that extend beyond their training environments – an increasingly common occurrence.
“We would like AI systems to monitor their situation dynamically, detect whether there has been a change in their environment and – if they can no longer work reliably – then provide an alert and perhaps shift to a safety mode.” A driverless car, for instance, might decide that a foggy night in heavy traffic requires a human driver to take control.
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CFI brings together four of the world’s leading universities (Cambridge, Oxford, Berkeley and Imperial College, London) to explore the implications of AI for human civilisation. Together, an interdisciplinary community of researchers will work closely with policy-makers and industry investigating topics such as the regulation of autonomous weaponry, and the implications of AI for democracy.
Ghahramani describes the excitement felt across the machine learning field: “It’s exploding in importance. It used to be an area of research that was very academic – but in the past five years people have realised these methods are incredibly useful across a wide range of societally important areas.
“We are awash with data, we have increasing computing power and we will see more and more applications that make predictions in real time. And as we see an escalation in what machines can do, they will challenge our notions of intelligence and make it all the more important that we have the means to trust what they tell us.”
Artificial intelligence has the power to eradicate poverty and disease or hasten the end of human civilisation as we know it – according to a speech delivered by Professor Stephen Hawking 19 October 2016 at the launch of the Centre for the Future of Intelligence.
One method is to build in an internal self-evaluation or calibration stage so that the machine can test its own certainty, and report back.
Two years ago, Ghahramani’s group launched the Automatic Statistician with funding from Google. The tool helps scientists analyse datasets for statistically significant patterns and, crucially, it also provides a report to explain how sure it is about its predictions.
“The difficulty with machine learning systems is you don’t really know what’s going on inside – and the answers they provide are not contextualised, like a human would do. The Automatic Statistician explains what it’s doing, in a human-understandable form.”
Where transparency becomes especially relevant is in applications like medical diagnoses, where understanding the provenance of how a decision is made is necessary to trust it.
Dr Adrian Weller, who works with Ghahramani, highlights the difficulty: “A particular issue with new artificial intelligence (AI) systems that learn or evolve is that their processes do not clearly map to rational decision-making pathways that are easy for humans to understand.” His research aims both at making these pathways more transparent, sometimes through visualisation, and at looking at what happens when systems are used in real-world scenarios that extend beyond their training environments – an increasingly common occurrence.
“We would like AI systems to monitor their situation dynamically, detect whether there has been a change in their environment and – if they can no longer work reliably – then provide an alert and perhaps shift to a safety mode.” A driverless car, for instance, might decide that a foggy night in heavy traffic requires a human driver to take control.
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CFI brings together four of the world’s leading universities (Cambridge, Oxford, Berkeley and Imperial College, London) to explore the implications of AI for human civilisation. Together, an interdisciplinary community of researchers will work closely with policy-makers and industry investigating topics such as the regulation of autonomous weaponry, and the implications of AI for democracy.
Ghahramani describes the excitement felt across the machine learning field: “It’s exploding in importance. It used to be an area of research that was very academic – but in the past five years people have realised these methods are incredibly useful across a wide range of societally important areas.
“We are awash with data, we have increasing computing power and we will see more and more applications that make predictions in real time. And as we see an escalation in what machines can do, they will challenge our notions of intelligence and make it all the more important that we have the means to trust what they tell us.”
Artificial intelligence has the power to eradicate poverty and disease or hasten the end of human civilisation as we know it – according to a speech delivered by Professor Stephen Hawking 19 October 2016 at the launch of the Centre for the Future of Intelligence.
10 November 2016 00:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
EXPLORING THE IMPACT OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE
Our aim at the Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence is to bring together the best of human intelligence so that we can make the most of machine intelligence.
LEARN MORE ABOUT THE CENTRE
A GLOBAL COMMUNITY TO ENSURE THAT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE BENEFITS ALL HUMANKIND
Intelligent machines will help us to do everything better, from curing cancer to cleaning up our cities. But they will also give rise to many questions and new challenges. Ensuring that the transition to the age of AI goes well is one of the great challenges of our time.
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This project draws on current work in psychology, neuroscience, philosophy, computer science, and cognitive robotics in order to further develop and critically assess notions of general intelligence used in AI.
Computers outperform humans on many tasks, but it is unclear whether and when the development of artificial general intelligence (AGI) will occur. One of the difficulties is that intelligence, both natural and artificial, is notoriously difficult to define. Much work has been done in AI both in defining general intelligence , and specifying different forms of intelligent behaviour and reasoning ability, drawing both on principles of mathematical logic and rationality, and on work in psychology and neurobiology. This project draws on leading work in these fields to further develop and critically assess notions of general intelligence used in AI.
Recent progress in neurobiology and psychology has illuminated aspects of general intelligence in biology, including its computational organization, evolutionary origins, relation to other capacities such as cultural intelligence, and association with traits such as brain size and processing speed. This has contributed to growing cross-fertilisation with machine learning; reflected in the research strategy of leading teams, including our industry partners Google DeepMind and Vicarious. This project will draw on the latest findings in neurobiology and psychology, combined with work in computer science and cognitive robotics, with the ultimate aim of mapping the space of possible intelligences – biological, artificial, and hybrid. This will enable more accurate predictions of AGI development and improved assessments of its benefits and risks.
http://lcfi.ac.uk/
http://lcfi.ac.uk/projects/kinds-intelligence/
PEOPLE
AN INTERDISCIPLINARY COMMUNITY COLLABORATING TO GUIDE THE FUTURE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE
INTERNATIONAL ADVISORY BOARD
Margaret Boden
Research Professor of Cognitive Science, University of Sussex
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Alison Gopnik
Professor of psychology and affiliate professor of philosophy at the University of California at Berkeley
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Philip Pettit
L.S. Rockefeller University Professor of Politics and Human Values at Princeton University
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Martin Rees
Emeritus Professor of Cosmology and Astrophysics; past President of the Royal Society; former Master, Fellow of Trinity College
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Francesca Rossi
IBM and University of Padova
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TEAM
Huw Price
Academic Director & Project Leader
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Zoubin Ghahramani
Professor of Information Engineering at the University of Cambridge
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Stephen Cave
Executive Director
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Nick Bostrom
Spoke Leader (Oxford) & Project Leader
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Stuart Russell
Spoke Leader (Berkeley)
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Murray Shanahan
Spoke Leader (Imperial)
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Anna Alexandrova
Project Leader
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Marta Halina
Project Leader
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Stephen John
Project Leader
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David Runciman
Project Leader
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Seán Ó hÉigeartaigh
Project Leader
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Thomas Grant
Research Exercise Leader
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Adrian Weller
Project Leader
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Andrew Snyder-Beattie
Research Exercise Leader
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Susan Gowans
Administrator
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Our aim at the Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence is to bring together the best of human intelligence so that we can make the most of machine intelligence.
LEARN MORE ABOUT THE CENTRE
A GLOBAL COMMUNITY TO ENSURE THAT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE BENEFITS ALL HUMANKIND
Intelligent machines will help us to do everything better, from curing cancer to cleaning up our cities. But they will also give rise to many questions and new challenges. Ensuring that the transition to the age of AI goes well is one of the great challenges of our time.
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This project draws on current work in psychology, neuroscience, philosophy, computer science, and cognitive robotics in order to further develop and critically assess notions of general intelligence used in AI.
Computers outperform humans on many tasks, but it is unclear whether and when the development of artificial general intelligence (AGI) will occur. One of the difficulties is that intelligence, both natural and artificial, is notoriously difficult to define. Much work has been done in AI both in defining general intelligence , and specifying different forms of intelligent behaviour and reasoning ability, drawing both on principles of mathematical logic and rationality, and on work in psychology and neurobiology. This project draws on leading work in these fields to further develop and critically assess notions of general intelligence used in AI.
Recent progress in neurobiology and psychology has illuminated aspects of general intelligence in biology, including its computational organization, evolutionary origins, relation to other capacities such as cultural intelligence, and association with traits such as brain size and processing speed. This has contributed to growing cross-fertilisation with machine learning; reflected in the research strategy of leading teams, including our industry partners Google DeepMind and Vicarious. This project will draw on the latest findings in neurobiology and psychology, combined with work in computer science and cognitive robotics, with the ultimate aim of mapping the space of possible intelligences – biological, artificial, and hybrid. This will enable more accurate predictions of AGI development and improved assessments of its benefits and risks.
http://lcfi.ac.uk/
http://lcfi.ac.uk/projects/kinds-intelligence/
PEOPLE
AN INTERDISCIPLINARY COMMUNITY COLLABORATING TO GUIDE THE FUTURE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE
INTERNATIONAL ADVISORY BOARD
Margaret Boden
Research Professor of Cognitive Science, University of Sussex
VIEW PROFILE
Alison Gopnik
Professor of psychology and affiliate professor of philosophy at the University of California at Berkeley
VIEW PROFILE
Philip Pettit
L.S. Rockefeller University Professor of Politics and Human Values at Princeton University
VIEW PROFILE
Martin Rees
Emeritus Professor of Cosmology and Astrophysics; past President of the Royal Society; former Master, Fellow of Trinity College
VIEW PROFILE
Francesca Rossi
IBM and University of Padova
VIEW PROFILE
TEAM
Huw Price
Academic Director & Project Leader
VIEW PROFILE
Zoubin Ghahramani
Professor of Information Engineering at the University of Cambridge
VIEW PROFILE
Stephen Cave
Executive Director
VIEW PROFILE
Nick Bostrom
Spoke Leader (Oxford) & Project Leader
VIEW PROFILE
Stuart Russell
Spoke Leader (Berkeley)
VIEW PROFILE
Murray Shanahan
Spoke Leader (Imperial)
VIEW PROFILE
Anna Alexandrova
Project Leader
VIEW PROFILE
Marta Halina
Project Leader
VIEW PROFILE
Stephen John
Project Leader
VIEW PROFILE
David Runciman
Project Leader
VIEW PROFILE
Seán Ó hÉigeartaigh
Project Leader
VIEW PROFILE
Thomas Grant
Research Exercise Leader
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Adrian Weller
Project Leader
VIEW PROFILE
Andrew Snyder-Beattie
Research Exercise Leader
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Susan Gowans
Administrator
VIEW PROFILE
10 November 2016 00:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5XvDCjrdXs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5XvDCjrdXs
10 November 2016 00:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence formally launched yesterday, Wednesday 19 October, with an event at the David Attenborough Building in Cambridge. Alongside representatives of the Centre and the University, Professor Stephen Hawking, the AI pioneer Professor Maggie Boden, and the Director of the Trust, Professor Gordon Marshall, all spoke.
https://www.leverhulme.ac.uk/news/leverhulme-centre-future-intelligence-launched-stephen-hawking-and-maggie-boden
https://www.leverhulme.ac.uk/news/leverhulme-centre-future-intelligence-launched-stephen-hawking-and-maggie-boden
https://www.leverhulme.ac.uk/news/leverhulme-centre-future-intelligence-launched-stephen-hawking-and-maggie-boden
10 November 2016 00:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Our mission at the Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence (CFI) is to build a new interdisciplinary community of researchers, with strong links to technologists and the policy world, and a clear practical goal: to work together to ensure that we humans make the best of the opportunities of artificial intelligence as it develops over coming decades.
Funded by a generous grant from the Leverhulme Trust, CFI will explore the opportunities and challenges of this potentially epoch-making technology, short-term as well as long-term. We are based at the University of Cambridge, with partners at the Oxford Martin School at the University of Oxford, at Imperial College London, and at the University of California, Berkeley.
Our research is structured in a series of projects forming the root structure of our new community, reaching out to brilliant researchers and connecting them and their ideas to the challenges of making the best of AI. Topics range from algorithmic transparency to exploring the implications of AI for democracy.
Many researchers now take seriously the possibility that intelligence equal to our own will be created in computers, perhaps within this century. Freed of biological constraints, such as limited memory and slow biochemical processing speeds, machines may eventually become more intelligent than we are – with profound implications for us all. We therefore aim to bring together the best of human intelligence so that we can make the most of machine intelligence.
‘The rise of powerful AI will be either the best, or the worst thing, ever to happen to humanity. We do not yet know which. The research done by this centre will be crucial to the future of our civilisation and of our species.’ – Professor Stephen Hawking
https://aeon.co/partners/leverhulme-centre-for-the-future-of-intelligence/about
Funded by a generous grant from the Leverhulme Trust, CFI will explore the opportunities and challenges of this potentially epoch-making technology, short-term as well as long-term. We are based at the University of Cambridge, with partners at the Oxford Martin School at the University of Oxford, at Imperial College London, and at the University of California, Berkeley.
Our research is structured in a series of projects forming the root structure of our new community, reaching out to brilliant researchers and connecting them and their ideas to the challenges of making the best of AI. Topics range from algorithmic transparency to exploring the implications of AI for democracy.
Many researchers now take seriously the possibility that intelligence equal to our own will be created in computers, perhaps within this century. Freed of biological constraints, such as limited memory and slow biochemical processing speeds, machines may eventually become more intelligent than we are – with profound implications for us all. We therefore aim to bring together the best of human intelligence so that we can make the most of machine intelligence.
‘The rise of powerful AI will be either the best, or the worst thing, ever to happen to humanity. We do not yet know which. The research done by this centre will be crucial to the future of our civilisation and of our species.’ – Professor Stephen Hawking
https://aeon.co/partners/leverhulme-centre-for-the-future-of-intelligence/about
https://aeon.co/partners/leverhulme-centre-for-the-future-of-intelligence/about
10 November 2016 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Dr Ó hÉigeartaigh said: “The Centre is intended to build on CSER’s pioneering work on the risks posed by high-level AI and place those concerns in a broader context, looking at themes such as different kinds of intelligence, responsible development of technology and issues surrounding autonomous weapons and drones.”
The Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence spans institutions, as well as disciplines. It is a collaboration led by the University of Cambridge with links to the Oxford Martin School at the University of Oxford, Imperial College London, and the University of California, Berkeley. It is supported by Cambridge’s Centre for Research in the Arts, Social Sciences and Humanities (CRASSH). As Professor Price put it, “a proposal this ambitious, combining some of the best minds across four universities and many disciplines, could not have been achieved without CRASSH’s vision and expertise.”
Zoubin Ghahramani, Deputy Director, Professor of Information Engineering and a Fellow of St John’s College, Cambridge, said:
“The field of machine learning continues to advance at a tremendous pace, and machines can now achieve near-human abilities at many cognitive tasks—from recognising images to translating between languages and driving cars. We need to understand where this is all leading, and ensure that research in machine intelligence continues to benefit humanity. The Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence will bring together researchers from a number of disciplines, from philosophers to social scientists, cognitive scientists and computer scientists, to help guide the future of this technology and study its implications.”
The Centre aims to lead the global conversation about the opportunities and challenges to humanity that lie ahead in the future of AI. Professor Price said: “With far-sighted alumni such as Charles Babbage, Alan Turing, and Margaret Boden, Cambridge has an enviable record of leadership in this field, and I am delighted that it will be home to the new Leverhulme Centre.”
http://www.crassh.cam.ac.uk/
The Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence spans institutions, as well as disciplines. It is a collaboration led by the University of Cambridge with links to the Oxford Martin School at the University of Oxford, Imperial College London, and the University of California, Berkeley. It is supported by Cambridge’s Centre for Research in the Arts, Social Sciences and Humanities (CRASSH). As Professor Price put it, “a proposal this ambitious, combining some of the best minds across four universities and many disciplines, could not have been achieved without CRASSH’s vision and expertise.”
Zoubin Ghahramani, Deputy Director, Professor of Information Engineering and a Fellow of St John’s College, Cambridge, said:
“The field of machine learning continues to advance at a tremendous pace, and machines can now achieve near-human abilities at many cognitive tasks—from recognising images to translating between languages and driving cars. We need to understand where this is all leading, and ensure that research in machine intelligence continues to benefit humanity. The Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence will bring together researchers from a number of disciplines, from philosophers to social scientists, cognitive scientists and computer scientists, to help guide the future of this technology and study its implications.”
The Centre aims to lead the global conversation about the opportunities and challenges to humanity that lie ahead in the future of AI. Professor Price said: “With far-sighted alumni such as Charles Babbage, Alan Turing, and Margaret Boden, Cambridge has an enviable record of leadership in this field, and I am delighted that it will be home to the new Leverhulme Centre.”
http://www.crassh.cam.ac.uk/
http://www.crassh.cam.ac.uk/
10 November 2016 00:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The University of Cambridge is launching a new research centre, thanks to a £10 million grant from the Leverhulme Trust, to explore the opportunities and challenges to humanity from the development of artificial intelligence.
Machine intelligence will be one of the defining themes of our century, and the challenges of ensuring that we make good use of its opportunities are ones we all face together
Huw Price
Human-level intelligence is familiar in biological “hardware” – it happens inside our skulls. Technology and science are now converging on a possible future where similar intelligence can be created in computers.
While it is hard to predict when this will happen, some researchers suggest that human-level AI will be created within this century. Freed of biological constraints, such machines might become much more intelligent than humans. What would this mean for us? Stuart Russell, a world-leading AI researcher at the University of California, Berkeley, and collaborator on the project, suggests that this would be “the biggest event in human history”. Professor Stephen Hawking agrees, saying that “when it eventually does occur, it’s likely to be either the best or worst thing ever to happen to humanity, so there’s huge value in getting it right.”
Now, thanks to an unprecedented £10 million grant from the Leverhulme Trust, the University of Cambridge is to establish a new interdisciplinary research centre, the Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence, to explore the opportunities and challenges of this potentially epoch-making technological development, both short and long term.
The Centre brings together computer scientists, philosophers, social scientists and others to examine the technical, practical and philosophical questions artificial intelligence raises for humanity in the coming century.
Huw Price, the Bertrand Russell Professor of Philosophy at Cambridge and Director of the Centre, said: “Machine intelligence will be one of the defining themes of our century, and the challenges of ensuring that we make good use of its opportunities are ones we all face
http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/the-future-of-intelligence-cambridge-university-launches-new-centre-to-study-ai-and-the-future-of
https://www.cam.ac.uk/affiliations/leverhulme-centre-for-the-future-of-intelligence
https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/features/artificial-intelligence-computer-says-yes-but-is-it-right
omputers that learn for themselves are with us now. As they become more common in ‘high-stakes’ applications like robotic surgery, terrorism detection and driverless cars, researchers ask what can be done to make sure we can trust them.
As we see an escalation in what machines can do, they will challenge our notions of intelligence and make it all the more important that we have the means to trust what they tell us
Zoubin Ghahramani
There would always be a first death in a driverless car and it happened in May 2016. Joshua Brown had engaged the autopilot system in his Tesla when a tractor-trailor drove across the road in front of him. It seems that neither he nor the sensors in the autopilot noticed the white-sided truck against a brightly lit sky, with tragic results.
Of course many people die in car crashes every day – in the USA there is one fatality every 94 million miles, and according to Tesla this was the first known fatality in over 130 million miles of driving with activated autopilot. In fact, given that most road fatalities are the result of human error, it has been said that autonomous cars should make travelling safer.
Even so, the tragedy raised a pertinent question: how much do we understand – and trust – the computers in an autonomous vehicle? Or, in fact, in any machine that has been taught to carry out an activity that a human would do?
We are now in the era of machine learning. Machines can be trained to recognise certain patterns in their environment and to respond appropriately. It happens every time your digital camera detects a face and throws a box around it to focus, or the personal assistant on your smartphone answers a question, or the adverts match your interests when you search online.
Machine intelligence will be one of the defining themes of our century, and the challenges of ensuring that we make good use of its opportunities are ones we all face together
Huw Price
Human-level intelligence is familiar in biological “hardware” – it happens inside our skulls. Technology and science are now converging on a possible future where similar intelligence can be created in computers.
While it is hard to predict when this will happen, some researchers suggest that human-level AI will be created within this century. Freed of biological constraints, such machines might become much more intelligent than humans. What would this mean for us? Stuart Russell, a world-leading AI researcher at the University of California, Berkeley, and collaborator on the project, suggests that this would be “the biggest event in human history”. Professor Stephen Hawking agrees, saying that “when it eventually does occur, it’s likely to be either the best or worst thing ever to happen to humanity, so there’s huge value in getting it right.”
Now, thanks to an unprecedented £10 million grant from the Leverhulme Trust, the University of Cambridge is to establish a new interdisciplinary research centre, the Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence, to explore the opportunities and challenges of this potentially epoch-making technological development, both short and long term.
The Centre brings together computer scientists, philosophers, social scientists and others to examine the technical, practical and philosophical questions artificial intelligence raises for humanity in the coming century.
Huw Price, the Bertrand Russell Professor of Philosophy at Cambridge and Director of the Centre, said: “Machine intelligence will be one of the defining themes of our century, and the challenges of ensuring that we make good use of its opportunities are ones we all face
http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/the-future-of-intelligence-cambridge-university-launches-new-centre-to-study-ai-and-the-future-of
https://www.cam.ac.uk/affiliations/leverhulme-centre-for-the-future-of-intelligence
https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/features/artificial-intelligence-computer-says-yes-but-is-it-right
omputers that learn for themselves are with us now. As they become more common in ‘high-stakes’ applications like robotic surgery, terrorism detection and driverless cars, researchers ask what can be done to make sure we can trust them.
As we see an escalation in what machines can do, they will challenge our notions of intelligence and make it all the more important that we have the means to trust what they tell us
Zoubin Ghahramani
There would always be a first death in a driverless car and it happened in May 2016. Joshua Brown had engaged the autopilot system in his Tesla when a tractor-trailor drove across the road in front of him. It seems that neither he nor the sensors in the autopilot noticed the white-sided truck against a brightly lit sky, with tragic results.
Of course many people die in car crashes every day – in the USA there is one fatality every 94 million miles, and according to Tesla this was the first known fatality in over 130 million miles of driving with activated autopilot. In fact, given that most road fatalities are the result of human error, it has been said that autonomous cars should make travelling safer.
Even so, the tragedy raised a pertinent question: how much do we understand – and trust – the computers in an autonomous vehicle? Or, in fact, in any machine that has been taught to carry out an activity that a human would do?
We are now in the era of machine learning. Machines can be trained to recognise certain patterns in their environment and to respond appropriately. It happens every time your digital camera detects a face and throws a box around it to focus, or the personal assistant on your smartphone answers a question, or the adverts match your interests when you search online.
http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/the-future-of-intelligence-cambridge-university-launches-new-centre-to-study-ai-and-the-future-of
10 November 2016 00:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Speaking recently at the unveiling of the Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence, a £10million collaboration between the Universities of Cambridge, Oxford, Imperial College London, and Berkeley, he said that the action of creating AI “could be the last, unless we learn to control the risks.”
http://cser.org/leverhulme-centre-for-the-future-of-intelligence/
CSER is delighted to announce that a new centre on the future of artificial intelligence will be established due to the generosity of the Leverhulme Foundation. The Centre proposal was developed at CSER and CRASSH, but will be a stand-alone centre, albeit collaborating extensively with CSER and with the Strategic AI Research Centre (an Oxford-Cambridge collaboration led by Nick Bostrom and Seán Ó hÉigeartaigh recently funded by the Future of Life Institute’s AI safety grants program).
PRESS RELEASE:
Human-level intelligence is familiar in biological “hardware” – it happens inside our skulls. Technology and science are now converging on a possible future where similar intelligence can be created in computers.
While it is hard to predict when this will happen, some researchers suggest that human-level AI will be created within this century. Freed of biological constraints, such machines might become much more intelligent than humans. What would this mean for us? Stuart Russell, a world-leading AI researcher at the University of California, Berkeley, and collaborator on the project, suggests that this would be “the biggest event in human history”. Professor Stephen Hawking agrees, saying that “when it eventually does occur, it’s likely to be either the best or worst thing ever to happen to humanity, so there’s huge value in getting it right.”
Now, thanks to an unprecedented £10 million grant from the Leverhulme Trust, the University of Cambridge is to establish a new interdisciplinary research centre, the Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence, to explore the opportunities and challenges of this potentially epoch-making technological development, both short and long term. The Centre brings together computer scientists, philosophers, social scientists and others to examine the technical, practical and philosophical questions artificial intelligence raises for humanity in the coming century.
Huw Price, the Bertrand Russell Professor of Philosophy at Cambridge and Director of the Centre, said: “Machine intelligence will be one of the defining themes of our century, and the challenges of ensuring that we make good use of its opportunities are ones we all face together. At present, however, we have barely begun to consider its ramifications, good or bad”.
The Centre is a response to the Leverhulme Trust’s call for “bold, disruptive thinking, capable of creating a step-change in our understanding”. The Trust awarded the grant to Cambridge for a proposal developed with the Executive Director of the University’s Centre for the Study of Existential Risk (CSER), Dr Seán Ó hÉigeartaigh. CSER investigates emerging risks to humanity’s future including climate change, disease, warfare and technological revolutions. Dr Ó hÉigeartaigh said: “The Centre is intended to build on CSER’s pioneering work on the risks posed by high-level AI and place those concerns in a broader context, looking at themes such as different kinds of intelligence, responsible development of technology and issues surrounding autonomous weapons and drones.”
The Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence spans institutions, as well as disciplines. It is a collaboration led by the University of Cambridge with links to the Oxford Martin School at the University of Oxford, Imperial College London, and the University of California, Berkeley. It is supported by Cambridge’s Centre for Research in the Arts, Social Sciences and Humanities (CRASSH). As Professor Price put it, “a proposal this ambitious, combining some of the best minds across four universities and many disciplines, could not have been achieved without CRASSH’s vision and expertise.”
Zoubin Ghahramani, Deputy Director, Professor of Information Engineering and a Fellow of St John’s College, Cambridge, said: “The field of machine learning continues to advance at a tremendous pace, and machines can now achieve near-human abilities at many cognitive tasks—from recognising images to translating between languages and driving cars. We need to understand where this is all leading, and ensure that research in machine intelligence continues to benefit humanity. The Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence will bring together researchers from a number of disciplines, from philosophers to social scientists, cognitive scientists and computer scientists, to help guide the future of this technology and study its implications.”
The Centre aims to lead the global conversation about the opportunities and challenges to humanity that lie ahead in the future of AI. Professor Price said: “With far-sighted alumni such as Charles Babbage, Alan Turing, and Margaret Boden, Cambridge has an enviable record of leadership in this field, and I am delighted that it will be home to the new Leverhulme Centre.”
http://cser.org/leverhulme-centre-for-the-future-of-intelligence/
CSER is delighted to announce that a new centre on the future of artificial intelligence will be established due to the generosity of the Leverhulme Foundation. The Centre proposal was developed at CSER and CRASSH, but will be a stand-alone centre, albeit collaborating extensively with CSER and with the Strategic AI Research Centre (an Oxford-Cambridge collaboration led by Nick Bostrom and Seán Ó hÉigeartaigh recently funded by the Future of Life Institute’s AI safety grants program).
PRESS RELEASE:
Human-level intelligence is familiar in biological “hardware” – it happens inside our skulls. Technology and science are now converging on a possible future where similar intelligence can be created in computers.
While it is hard to predict when this will happen, some researchers suggest that human-level AI will be created within this century. Freed of biological constraints, such machines might become much more intelligent than humans. What would this mean for us? Stuart Russell, a world-leading AI researcher at the University of California, Berkeley, and collaborator on the project, suggests that this would be “the biggest event in human history”. Professor Stephen Hawking agrees, saying that “when it eventually does occur, it’s likely to be either the best or worst thing ever to happen to humanity, so there’s huge value in getting it right.”
Now, thanks to an unprecedented £10 million grant from the Leverhulme Trust, the University of Cambridge is to establish a new interdisciplinary research centre, the Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence, to explore the opportunities and challenges of this potentially epoch-making technological development, both short and long term. The Centre brings together computer scientists, philosophers, social scientists and others to examine the technical, practical and philosophical questions artificial intelligence raises for humanity in the coming century.
Huw Price, the Bertrand Russell Professor of Philosophy at Cambridge and Director of the Centre, said: “Machine intelligence will be one of the defining themes of our century, and the challenges of ensuring that we make good use of its opportunities are ones we all face together. At present, however, we have barely begun to consider its ramifications, good or bad”.
The Centre is a response to the Leverhulme Trust’s call for “bold, disruptive thinking, capable of creating a step-change in our understanding”. The Trust awarded the grant to Cambridge for a proposal developed with the Executive Director of the University’s Centre for the Study of Existential Risk (CSER), Dr Seán Ó hÉigeartaigh. CSER investigates emerging risks to humanity’s future including climate change, disease, warfare and technological revolutions. Dr Ó hÉigeartaigh said: “The Centre is intended to build on CSER’s pioneering work on the risks posed by high-level AI and place those concerns in a broader context, looking at themes such as different kinds of intelligence, responsible development of technology and issues surrounding autonomous weapons and drones.”
The Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence spans institutions, as well as disciplines. It is a collaboration led by the University of Cambridge with links to the Oxford Martin School at the University of Oxford, Imperial College London, and the University of California, Berkeley. It is supported by Cambridge’s Centre for Research in the Arts, Social Sciences and Humanities (CRASSH). As Professor Price put it, “a proposal this ambitious, combining some of the best minds across four universities and many disciplines, could not have been achieved without CRASSH’s vision and expertise.”
Zoubin Ghahramani, Deputy Director, Professor of Information Engineering and a Fellow of St John’s College, Cambridge, said: “The field of machine learning continues to advance at a tremendous pace, and machines can now achieve near-human abilities at many cognitive tasks—from recognising images to translating between languages and driving cars. We need to understand where this is all leading, and ensure that research in machine intelligence continues to benefit humanity. The Leverhulme Centre for the Future of Intelligence will bring together researchers from a number of disciplines, from philosophers to social scientists, cognitive scientists and computer scientists, to help guide the future of this technology and study its implications.”
The Centre aims to lead the global conversation about the opportunities and challenges to humanity that lie ahead in the future of AI. Professor Price said: “With far-sighted alumni such as Charles Babbage, Alan Turing, and Margaret Boden, Cambridge has an enviable record of leadership in this field, and I am delighted that it will be home to the new Leverhulme Centre.”
http://cser.org/leverhulme-centre-for-the-future-of-intelligence/
9 November 2016 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
“Alongside the benefits, AI will also bring dangers, like powerful autonomous weapons, or new ways for the few to oppress the many.
“It will bring great disruption to our economy.
“And in the future, AI could develop a will of its own – a will that will conflict ours.
“In short, the rise of powerful AI will either be the best or the worst thing to ever happen to humanity.
“We do not yet know which.”
http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/729740/Stephen-Hawking-Aliens-DESTROY-bacteria-in-comparison
“It will bring great disruption to our economy.
“And in the future, AI could develop a will of its own – a will that will conflict ours.
“In short, the rise of powerful AI will either be the best or the worst thing to ever happen to humanity.
“We do not yet know which.”
http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/729740/Stephen-Hawking-Aliens-DESTROY-bacteria-in-comparison
http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/729740/Stephen-Hawking-Aliens-DESTROY-bacteria-in-comparison
9 November 2016 23:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"exposed"
why to even take these kind of quality things ...
just can not wait in please times, when camera's are on level taht there is no excuse about fogines where one can think that these things are photopainted on to it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atk4oUDqFzY
why to even take these kind of quality things ...
just can not wait in please times, when camera's are on level taht there is no excuse about fogines where one can think that these things are photopainted on to it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atk4oUDqFzY
9 November 2016 23:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
( :D ) // At same time, people who ruin the good alien news by fogy images and .. well you hear it (but in the talk, is information about mindset, and in the mindset is packed information and in the information theory that can be used to expand mind in a way to end up in actually useful extra point of views that surprisingly is beneficial to render while dealing with these subjects ) //
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Iowa Mutual UFO Network is already investigating on the said UFO sighting. Representative from the said network said that the object could also be just a second helicopter or could be a bird.
//okey... are you jokin? not even funny
http://www.hngn.com/articles/216171/20161109/video-ufo-spotted-following-donald-trump-s-chopper-during-campaign.htm
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Iowa Mutual UFO Network is already investigating on the said UFO sighting. Representative from the said network said that the object could also be just a second helicopter or could be a bird.
//okey... are you jokin? not even funny
http://www.hngn.com/articles/216171/20161109/video-ufo-spotted-following-donald-trump-s-chopper-during-campaign.htm
9 November 2016 23:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Our 4K collection goes beyond the usual travel programs to take you through history, into space and close to the smallest insects."
"Start a free month... " well, thought that hawking is turned in to capitalist for a moment
https://app.curiositystream.com/video/1697
"Start a free month... " well, thought that hawking is turned in to capitalist for a moment
https://app.curiositystream.com/video/1697
9 November 2016 23:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//lol...searching outside what is inside and front of your eyes... well if one couts them as aliens who grow us... then yes, them outside also..//
"The funds couldn’t have come at a better time for SETI (short for Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence). Founded in 1960 by American astronomer and astrophysicist, Frank Drake, the research institute has endured a controversial lifespan, provoking the ire and ridicule of government representatives for decades until all federal funding was stripped from what is now a strictly private operation.
"Everyone lost their jobs. They weren’t able to keep going in the field," Director of the Berkeley SETI Research Centre, Andrew Siemion, told John Wenz at Motherboard. "It also scared everyone. It scared grad students, it scared post-docs, it scared researchers. No one wants to be involved in research where your funding can be pulled at any moment."
Now encompassing several organisations, including the SETI Institute, the Berkeley SETI Research Centre, and SETI@home - a collective of 3 million alien hunting volunteers - SETI ended up with a whole lot of passionate researchers and scant resources to share among them. But all that’s about to change with the $100 million Breakthrough Listen initiative.
"We would typically get 24 to 36 hours on a telescope per year, but now we’ll have thousands of hours per year on the best instruments,"
http://www.sciencealert.com/a-russian-billionaire-just-gave-alien-hunters-a-cool-100-million
"The funds couldn’t have come at a better time for SETI (short for Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence). Founded in 1960 by American astronomer and astrophysicist, Frank Drake, the research institute has endured a controversial lifespan, provoking the ire and ridicule of government representatives for decades until all federal funding was stripped from what is now a strictly private operation.
"Everyone lost their jobs. They weren’t able to keep going in the field," Director of the Berkeley SETI Research Centre, Andrew Siemion, told John Wenz at Motherboard. "It also scared everyone. It scared grad students, it scared post-docs, it scared researchers. No one wants to be involved in research where your funding can be pulled at any moment."
Now encompassing several organisations, including the SETI Institute, the Berkeley SETI Research Centre, and SETI@home - a collective of 3 million alien hunting volunteers - SETI ended up with a whole lot of passionate researchers and scant resources to share among them. But all that’s about to change with the $100 million Breakthrough Listen initiative.
"We would typically get 24 to 36 hours on a telescope per year, but now we’ll have thousands of hours per year on the best instruments,"
http://www.sciencealert.com/a-russian-billionaire-just-gave-alien-hunters-a-cool-100-million
http://www.sciencealert.com/a-russian-billionaire-just-gave-alien-hunters-a-cool-100-million
9 November 2016 23:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
In case you missed it, the Breakthrough Listen project is an ambitious attempt to find intelligent life in the Universe by scanning the closest stars for radio signals. The project was funded by Russian billionaire Yuri Milner, who injected US$100 million to keep it afloat.
http://www.sciencealert.com/stephen-hawking-s-alien-hunting-project-is-investigating-strange-signals-from-234-stars
http://www.sciencealert.com/stephen-hawking-s-alien-hunting-project-is-investigating-strange-signals-from-234-stars
http://www.sciencealert.com/stephen-hawking-s-alien-hunting-project-is-investigating-strange-signals-from-234-stars
9 November 2016 23:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Well, according to physicist Stephen Hawking, we should probably stop trying to contact them at all, because reaching out to advanced civilisations could put humanity and Earth in a pretty risky situation. And the bad news is, we've already been broadcasting our location to the Universe for years.
Hawking’s warning comes in a new online film called Stephen Hawking’s Favourite Places, which shows the famed scientist in a CGI spacecraft called the SS Hawking exploring his favourite places in the Universe.
"As I grow older I am more convinced than ever that we are not alone. After a lifetime of wondering, I am helping to lead a new global effort to find out,"
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Hawking says in the film while exploring Gliese 832c, a planet that lies 16 light-years away and might foster alien life.
"The Breakthrough Listen project will scan the nearest million stars for signs of life, but I know just the place to start looking. One day we might receive a signal from a planet like Gliese 832c, but we should be wary of answering back."
In case you missed it, the Breakthrough Listen project is an ambitious attempt to find intelligent life in the Universe by scanning the closest stars for radio signals. The project was funded by Russian billionaire Yuri Milner, who injected US$100 million to keep it afloat.
Recently, the project announced that it would be turning its attention to the hypothetical 'alien megastructure' that some think is causing a star known as KIC 8462852 to oddly dim off and on.
Hawking’s warning comes in a new online film called Stephen Hawking’s Favourite Places, which shows the famed scientist in a CGI spacecraft called the SS Hawking exploring his favourite places in the Universe.
"As I grow older I am more convinced than ever that we are not alone. After a lifetime of wondering, I am helping to lead a new global effort to find out,"
-
Hawking says in the film while exploring Gliese 832c, a planet that lies 16 light-years away and might foster alien life.
"The Breakthrough Listen project will scan the nearest million stars for signs of life, but I know just the place to start looking. One day we might receive a signal from a planet like Gliese 832c, but we should be wary of answering back."
In case you missed it, the Breakthrough Listen project is an ambitious attempt to find intelligent life in the Universe by scanning the closest stars for radio signals. The project was funded by Russian billionaire Yuri Milner, who injected US$100 million to keep it afloat.
Recently, the project announced that it would be turning its attention to the hypothetical 'alien megastructure' that some think is causing a star known as KIC 8462852 to oddly dim off and on.
9 November 2016 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
except, the last elections kind of sucked, at first
9 November 2016 23:25
Margus Meigo replied to NJ Gregory's comment.
unfortunately they use human shields, family shields, spread in to normal family members they are as cover or as life stile, in great part.. also great part have power up in dark forces, who will ensure, that one of he's hundreds of followers will come after their family and ... well.. who would dare to execute this order..
But it is sad yes, that they are not exterminated even with a high dosage of psychedelics, ... they can be turned in to safe ways... with no marks.. in a way that they turn in rest of their nest.. if only gov would got balls and half religious thinking at least...that is not softened by evil side of liveral structure what is set up to protect evil from the good
But it is sad yes, that they are not exterminated even with a high dosage of psychedelics, ... they can be turned in to safe ways... with no marks.. in a way that they turn in rest of their nest.. if only gov would got balls and half religious thinking at least...that is not softened by evil side of liveral structure what is set up to protect evil from the good
9 November 2016 23:06
Margus Meigo replied to NJ Gregory's comment.
i hear You
9 November 2016 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Galatians 6:9
"And let us not grow weary of doing good, for in due season we will reap, if we do not give up"
She Quoted Scripture to gays and liberals on final speech that was not for votes, while the one who should have be representing Christian values, Trump, who got elected thanks to christian voice, ... well, ... no mention really even on hes welcome speech.
It is important more then one can imagine,.
reminding mystically, from where is wisdom, and what and who was where
https://youtu.be/FSPBjOnHTaM?t=1799
"And let us not grow weary of doing good, for in due season we will reap, if we do not give up"
She Quoted Scripture to gays and liberals on final speech that was not for votes, while the one who should have be representing Christian values, Trump, who got elected thanks to christian voice, ... well, ... no mention really even on hes welcome speech.
It is important more then one can imagine,.
reminding mystically, from where is wisdom, and what and who was where
https://youtu.be/FSPBjOnHTaM?t=1799
https://youtu.be/FSPBjOnHTaM?t=1799
9 November 2016 23:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
88 inimeste psüühikasse ei ole eriti keeruline tegelikult pääseda, bluprindid on olemas enamuste selliste archetüüpide tarvis nagu ka anarhistide (kelle omasse sygvutii praktiliselt raskem, lojaalselt, sest neil asjad peas rohkem ära lohutud mitte aga srgjoonele aetud)
9 November 2016 20:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aa nu siis okey,
Motlesin juba, et pigem toetad taolise arvamusega inimesi
Motlesin juba, et pigem toetad taolise arvamusega inimesi
9 November 2016 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Another example where they de-womanize Her,
but not so much on plain sight anymore but still strongly noticeable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kjyltrKZSY
but not so much on plain sight anymore but still strongly noticeable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kjyltrKZSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kjyltrKZSY
9 November 2016 20:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR6ByvuJYMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR6ByvuJYMU
9 November 2016 20:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXZI1VwWFAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXZI1VwWFAI
9 November 2016 20:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
and this commie also heading fire to a oven... in opposite direction.. we all know it was actually H. Clinton, who would not be allowed, because some radical plans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ7lYRnF1F8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ7lYRnF1F8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ7lYRnF1F8
9 November 2016 20:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL_wh-d1pP4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL_wh-d1pP4
9 November 2016 20:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HGSuE8iLVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HGSuE8iLVE
9 November 2016 20:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIdvEUxCN5o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIdvEUxCN5o
9 November 2016 20:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
the 50 mnute versin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_q61B-DyPk
9 November 2016 20:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsvy10D5rtc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsvy10D5rtc
9 November 2016 20:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SLfCkXDAf8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SLfCkXDAf8
9 November 2016 20:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Putin "When they heard Hillary lost, the core of Duma started to applaud,..." ... Putin was one of the first to congratulate Trump for victory
"many of them see the victory for Trump as victory for Vladimir Putin "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIQU4MDozaE
"many of them see the victory for Trump as victory for Vladimir Putin "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIQU4MDozaE
9 November 2016 20:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
9 November 2016 20:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
OKey now must ask from Her.. what happened and to ask if them got now understanding, that ANY revelation with out Christ like forces can fool You big time.. when someone on earth actually threatens theirrela position.. long story..
9 November 2016 19:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
even if all is at stake, depression newer helps much
9 November 2016 19:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
clearly "opponents" are to soft if they not able to take this in to account
now thinking more and more, seems better and better what happened, (well, no point to fall in to depression over it, innit )
now thinking more and more, seems better and better what happened, (well, no point to fall in to depression over it, innit )
9 November 2016 19:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Thats strong argument indeed, can not get against that.
Smart to "capitalize" that, as no religious one would dare to think that someone would just use this and be able to stay alive... and when one is.. then must be for real
Smart to "capitalize" that, as no religious one would dare to think that someone would just use this and be able to stay alive... and when one is.. then must be for real
9 November 2016 19:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
The long road to White House
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM
9 November 2016 19:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
poolele kus on headus
9 November 2016 19:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja veel OMA sugulusrahvast siin tullakse maha tegema.. ja siis võetakse võõra lipsumehe pool, oma sugulusrahva, vaimse õe suhtes? Ja siis kiidame pehmikusest ja pugejalikusest "alfa" isasele, kuna to ikka voimas ja rikas.. ja parem ja turvalisem talle pugeda kui millegi õige eest välja astuda, paljude arvates kellele kommunism sügavalt hinge läbinud on ja argus mille nad ise "vägevuseks" enda meeltes maskeerinud, .. nagu need Odinlased kellel vägistamise kultus on relgiooniks, nende oma Odini liidri kuulsaimaid hetki on kui ta musta maagiaga teise haieks tegi, siis transexuaalina ennast petusega tnaise kindlusesse smuugeldas.. ja siis voodihaige ohvri kinnisidus voodisse ja teda retsilt vägistama asus nii et on.. ja see siis on see aumees keda kummardatakse ja kelle nimel moslemied taga aetakse... moslemid ka vaatavad,. et ikka nii arulage liik tulebki siiasaadetud rämpsuläbi ära likvideerida, sellist kurjust ja arulagedust ei sobi alles hoida... ja nehs selgeid fakte enda kurjusest ja vigadest, kaitsevad edasi oma vigast olemust selle asemel, et vabandada ja sellest välja astuda, headuse poole
9 November 2016 19:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid, et Sa ennast ise ei peaks süüdi tundma, siis
nõustud ise ka ju, et kes Sedasi reageerib, on ikka väga kohitsetud mõttemaailmaga?
Et me elame küll paraleel maailmas, mina elan orignaalses maailmas pris väärtustega mis esiisadelt on ja kes oleks ilma kysimata pea maha võtnud sellise teo eest ja sina elad uue liberaalse liberaalide ja greeka-rooma mottemaailmade (mis siis on ka homode mottemaailmade) maailmas kus sellised käperdamised võõraste naiste puhul polegi surma väärt??
nõustud ise ka ju, et kes Sedasi reageerib, on ikka väga kohitsetud mõttemaailmaga?
Et me elame küll paraleel maailmas, mina elan orignaalses maailmas pris väärtustega mis esiisadelt on ja kes oleks ilma kysimata pea maha võtnud sellise teo eest ja sina elad uue liberaalse liberaalide ja greeka-rooma mottemaailmade (mis siis on ka homode mottemaailmade) maailmas kus sellised käperdamised võõraste naiste puhul polegi surma väärt??
9 November 2016 19:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(ehk et ma ei peagi otsima alati)
9 November 2016 19:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
pime kana leiab ka ise tera : )
9 November 2016 19:27
Margus Meigo replied to NJ Gregory's comment.
but what is solution ?
There is hundreds of thousands of gang members... many require killings to be a member, ... and them just keep growing..
How come there is even NO public talk about handling them ?
There is hundreds of thousands of gang members... many require killings to be a member, ... and them just keep growing..
How come there is even NO public talk about handling them ?
9 November 2016 11:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
suurendada võlakoormust ??
9 November 2016 11:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kriis on see, et selliseid inimesi keegi paika ei ole julgenud ega osanud panna: http://uudised.err.ee/v/majandus/c62a554a-39a7-4294-bb78-ac464e410792/ossinovski-naeb-voimalust-suurendada-eesti-laenukoormust-ja-tosta-varamakse
http://uudised.err.ee/v/majandus/c62a554a-39a7-4294-bb78-ac464e410792/ossinovski-naeb-voimalust-suurendada-eesti-laenukoormust-ja-tosta-varamakse
9 November 2016 11:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
9 November 2016 10:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
9 November 2016 10:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
9 November 2016 10:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.quora.com/Which-is-the-most-powerful-mafia-in-USA
https://www.quora.com/Which-is-the-most-powerful-mafia-in-USA
9 November 2016 09:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.criminaljusticedegreesguide.com/features/10-most-dangerous-gangs-in-america.html
http://www.criminaljusticedegreesguide.com/features/10-most-dangerous-gangs-in-america.html
9 November 2016 09:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
matadornetwork.com/nights/14-notorious-mafias-world/
http://matadornetwork.com/nights/14-notorious-mafias-world/
9 November 2016 09:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
foreignpolicy.com/2007/05/21/the-list-the-worlds-most-powerful-crime-syndicates/
http://foreignpolicy.com/2007/05/21/the-list-the-worlds-most-powerful-crime-syndicates/
9 November 2016 09:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and as they are international.. one should focus that around the world
www.ibtimes.com/worlds-most-powerful-mobster-you-probably-never-heard-980488
www.ibtimes.com/worlds-most-powerful-mobster-you-probably-never-heard-980488
http://www.ibtimes.com/worlds-most-powerful-mobster-you-probably-never-heard-980488
9 November 2016 09:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2014/04/28/is-the-mafia-europes-new-security-threat/mafia-organizations-are-more-dangerous-than-terrorist-groups
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2014/04/28/is-the-mafia-europes-new-security-threat/mafia-organizations-are-more-dangerous-than-terrorist-groups
9 November 2016 09:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and besides gangs, there is mafia also,
www.history.com/topics/mafia-in-the-united-states
www.history.com/topics/mafia-in-the-united-states
http://www.history.com/topics/mafia-in-the-united-states
9 November 2016 09:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and:
www.citiesjournal.com/the-14-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-usa/
www.citiesjournal.com/the-14-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-usa/
http://www.citiesjournal.com/the-14-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-usa/
9 November 2016 09:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
or:
list25.com/25-notoriously-dangerous-gangs/
list25.com/25-notoriously-dangerous-gangs/
http://list25.com/25-notoriously-dangerous-gangs/
9 November 2016 09:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
www.businessinsider.com/dangerous-american-gangs-fbi-2011-11
http://www.businessinsider.com/dangerous-american-gangs-fbi-2011-11
9 November 2016 09:42
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
well, i think they should stop relay on the analyzes
9 November 2016 09:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but if Trump like candidate would be from liberal party, this would be catastrophic, at least he is estranged in to Republics, so gotta obey some norms...
9 November 2016 09:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
not that am underestimated, for me would have been clear miracle if person who promised to make ufo files open, would allowed to start Matriarchy revolution after 5000 years
but now is interesting to see how they eat it up
but now is interesting to see how they eat it up
9 November 2016 09:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i was not assuming, i hoped strongly .. okey... one state more, for trump... hope? Why not, no point to give up :p
9 November 2016 09:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
so strange, that people assumed, that miracle is happening and that Clinton would become ... this happens when underestimate FSB (Russia)
9 November 2016 09:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Former Reagan speech writer, rebublican "many of us want to vomit"
9 November 2016 08:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
lol, on http://www.npr.org/sections/politics/ people are like "umm... eee... welll...." with a voice that ia clearly afraid and confused
http://www.npr.org/sections/politics/
9 November 2016 08:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Also find for my self a box..
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201782986113103&set=a.10201782737186880.1073741825.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201782986113103&set=a.10201782737186880.1073741825.1135161043&type=3&theater
9 November 2016 06:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Natukene palvetamist.
9 November 2016 06:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
radio:
http://www.npr.org/sections/politics/
http://www.npr.org/sections/politics/
http://www.npr.org/sections/politics/
9 November 2016 05:29
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9 November 2016 03:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and who is this guy, is he high and why he helps to ruin Clinton votes if he is so smart http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/06/24/libertarian-gary-johnson-believes-election-2016-ar-origwx.cnn
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/06/24/libertarian-gary-johnson-believes-election-2016-ar-origwx.cnn
9 November 2016 03:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and with Garry J on pot and guns:
"How do you feel about guns?
Law-abiding citizens should not be prevented from getting guns/pot.
"How do you feel about guns?
Law-abiding citizens should not be prevented from getting guns/pot.
9 November 2016 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
9 November 2016 03:11
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
You really like these kids, sharing 4 times :p
9 November 2016 02:30
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
:D
9 November 2016 02:29
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
no, no one is concerned as we can see,
and is a bit late..
better to focus on Hillary emails , that nearly no one has read but everyone is talking about.. (as much emails i managed to see, all proved She has done a great and big job )
and is a bit late..
better to focus on Hillary emails , that nearly no one has read but everyone is talking about.. (as much emails i managed to see, all proved She has done a great and big job )
9 November 2016 02:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Georgia also 73 % for Trump omg
can these people even imagine what Kremlin can do wit ha business man in a office..
Dream come true.. and yes, they will first offer A LOT of money and deals to usa, to show how well it go now... but in the end , payment is souls... we know in here...
can these people even imagine what Kremlin can do wit ha business man in a office..
Dream come true.. and yes, they will first offer A LOT of money and deals to usa, to show how well it go now... but in the end , payment is souls... we know in here...
9 November 2016 02:22
Margus Meigo replied to Elizabeth Lydy's comment.
people have lived and allowed so long for fake people in TV that if someone dares to be a bit real, but is still an asshole, they get all hard one, as "ooo he was telling this.. must be real.."
Yeah, Hitler was also real,
(i liked him more)
Yeah, Hitler was also real,
(i liked him more)
9 November 2016 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to Elizabeth Lydy's comment.
No am not debating with ya, just need some place in net to live my self out, here comes one more:
"if people are ACTUALLY republican, and believe me, less the ones who is still on the border of sane and likes True Liberals less then me kind, as we see them the ones who are the main weapon of communists to pervert society, who's talking style is fake and who dreams about fucking robots and getting their little conspicuousness uploaded to microchips, to "Live forever without god" .. while their masters , Liberal leaders run massive genetic engineering programs how to eliminate native people and everyone who does not fit to communist agendas..
so anyone bother to investigate how business people think, who are dirty (who talk and act lie trump) will know, that them would sale off ANY normal human land for parking space and kids for dog food..
and to vote for this kind , ?
And You can have on revolutionary times, on cosmic times, when OLD calendars say, that Female energy is coming back to rule and set things right, known thousands of years, ... and they want to put on that moment, a man, who resembles everything negative about man, to a most powerful position in the world.. .. while She would neutralize most of Islam opponents of USA besides.. Her family is actually knowing what they doing
just amazes me.. why Blue Republican Allowed these kind of ANTI-republican ideology guy to run with fake lies as he is "anti-establishment" guy ?
Republicans in this part of world means respecting truth and holding on to it even if it hurts, ... not protecting your own kind if they turn bad.. your own kind you should beat up double.. for many reasons.
It has newer been a question, if Trump can win, as USA in total is not retarded and the Kremlin organized negative campaign and puppets in USA can not reach so high... but just amazes me that he get more then 10% votes, after he does not even hide, that he is this kind of guy...
can you imagine how he thinks and how terrible direction of human development this kind of people take a CULTURE .. if hes own values are like this..
and he it self is not a evil or soft or "liberal" one in a sense of fake by the nature, but he uses just language as business man, a tool... kind of like politician but way more levels emotionless, fake, as in business, everything is allowed,
hmm.. okey got my self emptied now
on my only liberal usa friend wall i know well i thin k:D
Thank You, and God has Blessed America!
(She did bless Estonia already, with biologic female president who is supported by nearly All opponents also Kristiina Kersti Kaljulaid )
"if people are ACTUALLY republican, and believe me, less the ones who is still on the border of sane and likes True Liberals less then me kind, as we see them the ones who are the main weapon of communists to pervert society, who's talking style is fake and who dreams about fucking robots and getting their little conspicuousness uploaded to microchips, to "Live forever without god" .. while their masters , Liberal leaders run massive genetic engineering programs how to eliminate native people and everyone who does not fit to communist agendas..
so anyone bother to investigate how business people think, who are dirty (who talk and act lie trump) will know, that them would sale off ANY normal human land for parking space and kids for dog food..
and to vote for this kind , ?
And You can have on revolutionary times, on cosmic times, when OLD calendars say, that Female energy is coming back to rule and set things right, known thousands of years, ... and they want to put on that moment, a man, who resembles everything negative about man, to a most powerful position in the world.. .. while She would neutralize most of Islam opponents of USA besides.. Her family is actually knowing what they doing
just amazes me.. why Blue Republican Allowed these kind of ANTI-republican ideology guy to run with fake lies as he is "anti-establishment" guy ?
Republicans in this part of world means respecting truth and holding on to it even if it hurts, ... not protecting your own kind if they turn bad.. your own kind you should beat up double.. for many reasons.
It has newer been a question, if Trump can win, as USA in total is not retarded and the Kremlin organized negative campaign and puppets in USA can not reach so high... but just amazes me that he get more then 10% votes, after he does not even hide, that he is this kind of guy...
can you imagine how he thinks and how terrible direction of human development this kind of people take a CULTURE .. if hes own values are like this..
and he it self is not a evil or soft or "liberal" one in a sense of fake by the nature, but he uses just language as business man, a tool... kind of like politician but way more levels emotionless, fake, as in business, everything is allowed,
hmm.. okey got my self emptied now
on my only liberal usa friend wall i know well i thin k:D
Thank You, and God has Blessed America!
(She did bless Estonia already, with biologic female president who is supported by nearly All opponents also Kristiina Kersti Kaljulaid )
9 November 2016 02:19
Margus Meigo replied to Elizabeth Lydy's comment.
How much more UN-conservative one can be, when being married, crabs tens, and tens of other women's pussy's, also while on house, when married women is in another room and he gives interviews.
and no, these are not propaganda, that AROUND THE WORLD comes up... not much of women who would dare to make this stuff up and the law suit would be to great to come if they lie... but as He is afraid, there might be Video proof, he is afraid to sue nearly anyone who talk about hes rapes and sleeping around's ..
So is that kind of some anti-religious values, in these states, that ...
Really amazing
and no, these are not propaganda, that AROUND THE WORLD comes up... not much of women who would dare to make this stuff up and the law suit would be to great to come if they lie... but as He is afraid, there might be Video proof, he is afraid to sue nearly anyone who talk about hes rapes and sleeping around's ..
So is that kind of some anti-religious values, in these states, that ...
Really amazing
9 November 2016 02:05
Margus Meigo replied to Elizabeth Lydy's comment.
well, i understand, if people are republican, meaning conservative, GOD loving, GOOD manners loving, Family loving people,
and great part on family and healthy, intelligent, softly anti-communist right ?
So why in the world they would vote for Trump then?
Perhaps News channels should have made some communist education 101 to them, to make them understand how they operate and how to spot them .
Besides forced support of Clinton for sexual rights and few other issues that come with a political party... She is by SO MANY TIMES more conservative, then Trump ever has been.
are people there just voting, based on party color instead WHO the human really is., What he stands for, and who is behind them and what they do...
and great part on family and healthy, intelligent, softly anti-communist right ?
So why in the world they would vote for Trump then?
Perhaps News channels should have made some communist education 101 to them, to make them understand how they operate and how to spot them .
Besides forced support of Clinton for sexual rights and few other issues that come with a political party... She is by SO MANY TIMES more conservative, then Trump ever has been.
are people there just voting, based on party color instead WHO the human really is., What he stands for, and who is behind them and what they do...
9 November 2016 02:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
how can American people in so large % of some part in country, not see that Trump is the one who Russia announced that "We elect our own President in USA"
It sounded first like a joke, to match billionaire against professional political dynasty.. but it seems as women hate is so great is some.. (ironically, women hate is the Original Homos, greek-roman philosophy carriers, so it can be told, they are homo sympathizers, who vote for Trump besides communists (as capitalism is communism one of the main tools, from communist perspective and from Russia perspective, when they have president with money who can be manipulated and moved around as they please ))
It sounded first like a joke, to match billionaire against professional political dynasty.. but it seems as women hate is so great is some.. (ironically, women hate is the Original Homos, greek-roman philosophy carriers, so it can be told, they are homo sympathizers, who vote for Trump besides communists (as capitalism is communism one of the main tools, from communist perspective and from Russia perspective, when they have president with money who can be manipulated and moved around as they please ))
9 November 2016 01:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
9 November 2016 01:50
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9 November 2016 01:37
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9 November 2016 01:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
of course there is pentagrams everywhere.. as it is in the end.. brother country's but hey..
just telling, that RT is by huge lead more professional for making people feel for what they see on screen
just telling, that RT is by huge lead more professional for making people feel for what they see on screen
9 November 2016 01:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
9 November 2016 01:29
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9 November 2016 01:26
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9 November 2016 01:24
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9 November 2016 01:21
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9 November 2016 01:19
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9 November 2016 01:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
One of the best CNN feeds,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dklsmmpkavU (from https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbHqiwyqGaVwKOiQn80BvNA cahannel)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dklsmmpkavU (from https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbHqiwyqGaVwKOiQn80BvNA cahannel)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dklsmmpkavU
9 November 2016 01:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Larry King for great surprise, talks that Donald ego is out of this world and he bring unprecedented negativity in to this election, ... and he also told, that Clinton is Not a criminal,
... so this from Russia Today... this is pretty amazing surprise, to tune in in to Russia Today and find something like that..
... so this from Russia Today... this is pretty amazing surprise, to tune in in to Russia Today and find something like that..
9 November 2016 01:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Larry King live and
(ta isegi ausalt, ime kombel tleb, et Donald on see kes kriminaalsuse tõi ja et Clinton ei ole kriminaal. Kuid see on tema ajaloo jooksul kõige negatiivsem valimised mida naäinud on, eriti just Trumpi pärast)
https://www.rt.com/on-air/rt-america-air/
(ta isegi ausalt, ime kombel tleb, et Donald on see kes kriminaalsuse tõi ja et Clinton ei ole kriminaal. Kuid see on tema ajaloo jooksul kõige negatiivsem valimised mida naäinud on, eriti just Trumpi pärast)
https://www.rt.com/on-air/rt-america-air/
https://www.rt.com/on-air/rt-america-air/
9 November 2016 01:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Donald Trump LIVE News Universe live:
6,491 watching now // 909 up 320 down
(They talking about how American Dream has been outsourced and now other country live "our" dream..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwxOuBL2VL0
6,491 watching now // 909 up 320 down
(They talking about how American Dream has been outsourced and now other country live "our" dream..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwxOuBL2VL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwxOuBL2VL0
8 November 2016 23:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Most important election, political turning point we have,
taking in to account where it leads us
http://edition.cnn.com/election/results
taking in to account where it leads us
http://edition.cnn.com/election/results
http://edition.cnn.com/election/results
8 November 2016 19:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
they talk in the channel there how their opponent boils litle children head 's literally for a food and well.. just amazing. .
8 November 2016 19:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but it is amazing, that so many people have lost their father figure and turned against Mother (people who accept women beating) that out of fear and confusion, and possession they actually think to vote for a Trump, how can You live with Yourself after this ?
Do you even took time to imagine HOW many USA blackmailing options there is for a guy like trump ?
For all what he has done.... what He's "friends" are keeping in secret... but who need more and more support for it...
2020 there will be Her
Do you even took time to imagine HOW many USA blackmailing options there is for a guy like trump ?
For all what he has done.... what He's "friends" are keeping in secret... but who need more and more support for it...
2020 there will be Her
8 November 2016 19:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Anyone who disagrees has some anti-life virus in it,
well, this does Not make You a saint to realize, we need to be thankful, that Clinton's will run most important position on this Earth (yes, including Russia and Vatican religious head) but at least You did not willingly contribute to a evil.
No, not that Trump is evil (besides living in evil way and supporting evil forces, he is still a human) but to look these forces who has plans with a Trump... well..
Trump would have been sad, if he would have win
well, this does Not make You a saint to realize, we need to be thankful, that Clinton's will run most important position on this Earth (yes, including Russia and Vatican religious head) but at least You did not willingly contribute to a evil.
No, not that Trump is evil (besides living in evil way and supporting evil forces, he is still a human) but to look these forces who has plans with a Trump... well..
Trump would have been sad, if he would have win
8 November 2016 19:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
.
https://www.nrm.org/2014/01/norman-rockwell-museums-four-freedoms-forum-looks-at-a-nation-divided-getting-past-the-impasse/
https://www.nrm.org/2014/01/norman-rockwell-museums-four-freedoms-forum-looks-at-a-nation-divided-getting-past-the-impasse/
https://www.nrm.org/2014/01/norman-rockwell-museums-four-freedoms-forum-looks-at-a-nation-divided-getting-past-the-impasse/
8 November 2016 19:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
If You want to hear proper nutcases, then look these evil possessed ones in here, they make Fox look soft:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9Tgb0Utj9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9Tgb0Utj9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9Tgb0Utj9w
8 November 2016 19:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
looduslähedusest on asi suts kaugel kui inimesed kambas tööstushoones eelistasid elada oma vanemate maamaja asemel
8 November 2016 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Loodetavasti ikka saadi aru, et näitamaks oli olukorra sügav dramaatilisus,
kuid kes mind vähegi priselt tunneb, saab seda isegi aru, ei hakanud juurde nii elementaarset lisama
kuid kes mind vähegi priselt tunneb, saab seda isegi aru, ei hakanud juurde nii elementaarset lisama
8 November 2016 17:13
Margus Meigo replied to Arthur Melhuish's comment.
Group: Hobo Hilton
yes, but not anymore in Tallinn, now in center of Estonia,8 November 2016 17:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nyyd vaja see lapenpuhh üles veel netist otsida, et see südameavaldus kohale jõuaks
8 November 2016 16:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehk siis, teisisõnu, lihtsamas keeles,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWbLkXhGEmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWbLkXhGEmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWbLkXhGEmo
8 November 2016 16:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
fak rsk ja mingi närkas tuleb meiesugulas rahvast veel käppima ja siis suured kiilakad kulbilööjad võtavad mingi lipsumehest (kaputalistlikusFormaadis)kommunismi kummardaja poole veel, Soome naise vastu ?
Homodus ikka eriti sügavale läinud koos juuste pügamisele mõnel, püganud midagi muud ka juba ära siis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA
Homodus ikka eriti sügavale läinud koos juuste pügamisele mõnel, püganud midagi muud ka juba ära siis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA
8 November 2016 16:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Veider, et riik selliste vanemaid tagant jrgi ei karista inimkonna roojastmaise eest ja ka meest ennast vastutusele ja sund ravile ning sund arenemisele ei saadeta... veider see inimkonna vastane vabadus...
8 November 2016 16:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
motle mõni targem luure ametnik seda loeb, ja vaatab et enamus lugejad seda hsti hinnanud ka.. jätab kohe kogu Rahvast alaarenenud mulje
8 November 2016 16:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
8 November 2016 16:40
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja see on sellepärast nii mida rägin, et ma pätriselt reaalselt hoolin, meie liigist, mitte ei kujuta kommunistlikult ette, et "phui" ja siis lasta ennast jumalal kanda ülbusega ise talle vastu jalga kustes, seni kuni endal kergem ja parem on, et suva eks..
vaata aga siin suurem osa inimesi plaanib ikka kauem eksisteerida... reaalselt vabaduse poole kogu seda soppa siin puhastades, kuhu meid tiritud on tyra kummardamisega, piiderite karja poolt, kellel meeldib mehi mukitult ja raseeritult üksteise taha rivvi panna ja muid perversusi teha ise enda tektitatud hirmude ja ohtude ohjeldamiseks samal ajal samm sammult elu hävitades, tõestamaks vaimumaailmale, et inimNaise ilmale toodud mees, on motetu tööriist ja algeline bioloogiline robot keda lihtne pedereerida, kanseldada ja ise enda elu vsastu sõtta saata, ehk siis ajutu ja kasutu, ... ja see "sdametarkus" mis peaks naiselt mehesse voolama, otse jumala soovist.. on naiivne häkitav ja aju läbi kergest pervitiseeritav erinevate tehnoloogiate kaudu ning sellel pole potensiaali, et meest päriselt inglite üle valitsema panna, nagu algne plaan on olnud, kui piisdav hulk mehi maapeal on "valmis" saanud,
jehoovakad arvavad, et see on 140 000 vms, kuid noh, moni teine arvab, et enne ei saa valmis, kui viimne kui üks valmis saab.. ja selle tarbeks jälle teised targad välja tulnud ideega, etteha suur likvideerimine ja siis "targemad" alles jätta ja siis peaks kiiremini vallahasse koigiga saama ja jumala heaolu ära teenima...
kuid jah.. et mis suuna siis ise valinud oled, peale naise, st et ikka sa motlesid seda sedasi, et naised nii korged olendid, et nende pärast ple vaja muretseda mehe olulisema kohustusena või mis moodi Sa seda rvasid +
Ega sa liberaalide hullumeelse idee loksu sattunud ple, et nagu "võrdsete" väärtustega tegu oleks +
vaata aga siin suurem osa inimesi plaanib ikka kauem eksisteerida... reaalselt vabaduse poole kogu seda soppa siin puhastades, kuhu meid tiritud on tyra kummardamisega, piiderite karja poolt, kellel meeldib mehi mukitult ja raseeritult üksteise taha rivvi panna ja muid perversusi teha ise enda tektitatud hirmude ja ohtude ohjeldamiseks samal ajal samm sammult elu hävitades, tõestamaks vaimumaailmale, et inimNaise ilmale toodud mees, on motetu tööriist ja algeline bioloogiline robot keda lihtne pedereerida, kanseldada ja ise enda elu vsastu sõtta saata, ehk siis ajutu ja kasutu, ... ja see "sdametarkus" mis peaks naiselt mehesse voolama, otse jumala soovist.. on naiivne häkitav ja aju läbi kergest pervitiseeritav erinevate tehnoloogiate kaudu ning sellel pole potensiaali, et meest päriselt inglite üle valitsema panna, nagu algne plaan on olnud, kui piisdav hulk mehi maapeal on "valmis" saanud,
jehoovakad arvavad, et see on 140 000 vms, kuid noh, moni teine arvab, et enne ei saa valmis, kui viimne kui üks valmis saab.. ja selle tarbeks jälle teised targad välja tulnud ideega, etteha suur likvideerimine ja siis "targemad" alles jätta ja siis peaks kiiremini vallahasse koigiga saama ja jumala heaolu ära teenima...
kuid jah.. et mis suuna siis ise valinud oled, peale naise, st et ikka sa motlesid seda sedasi, et naised nii korged olendid, et nende pärast ple vaja muretseda mehe olulisema kohustusena või mis moodi Sa seda rvasid +
Ega sa liberaalide hullumeelse idee loksu sattunud ple, et nagu "võrdsete" väärtustega tegu oleks +
8 November 2016 16:23
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja muretsemine Naiste pärast, on muretsemine KÕIGE otsemalt meeste pärast,
Sest mehe mure Naise enda pärast, läheb Suures plaanis vähe korda, sest nemad on ammu valmis juba, meie oleme need kelle "tarbeks" nad siia maandunud, et meist väärislist liiki ja vaimset olendit kasvatada,
nad nagu mesilased ja lendavad edasi kui node taru karu katki teeb... mehed aga isegi sipelga staatusesse pole jõudnud veel
Sest mehe mure Naise enda pärast, läheb Suures plaanis vähe korda, sest nemad on ammu valmis juba, meie oleme need kelle "tarbeks" nad siia maandunud, et meist väärislist liiki ja vaimset olendit kasvatada,
nad nagu mesilased ja lendavad edasi kui node taru karu katki teeb... mehed aga isegi sipelga staatusesse pole jõudnud veel
8 November 2016 16:15
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AINULT Naiste pärast??
Oota mis "asja" prast siis siin veel planeedil, selles ajaruumis muretsema peaks, tead kedagi teist kes sinu ja minu suguseid ilmale toovad ja kelle tarkusele allutamisest kogu meeskonna saatuse suund sõltub, veel rohkmem?
Ega sa ometi ka selle kommunisitde inimkond 2.0 transhuman greeka-rooma pedede filosoofiasse uskuma pole hakanud, kus nad unistavad naisest lahti saada ja siis robotitega inimesi ilmale tuua trukkides, onades inimtehastes otse kookonitesse kes siis ainu enda valitud parameetritega hybriide sulle munema hakkab? See on see suund kuhu lähevad kõik naise vastased, va. need kes veelgi kiiremat surma soovivad.
Oota mis "asja" prast siis siin veel planeedil, selles ajaruumis muretsema peaks, tead kedagi teist kes sinu ja minu suguseid ilmale toovad ja kelle tarkusele allutamisest kogu meeskonna saatuse suund sõltub, veel rohkmem?
Ega sa ometi ka selle kommunisitde inimkond 2.0 transhuman greeka-rooma pedede filosoofiasse uskuma pole hakanud, kus nad unistavad naisest lahti saada ja siis robotitega inimesi ilmale tuua trukkides, onades inimtehastes otse kookonitesse kes siis ainu enda valitud parameetritega hybriide sulle munema hakkab? See on see suund kuhu lähevad kõik naise vastased, va. need kes veelgi kiiremat surma soovivad.
8 November 2016 16:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just a little one..
8 November 2016 16:09
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valus nali :D
8 November 2016 16:08
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To Heaven as Well
muidugi need on reaalsed asjad, st nagu kes aru saab aja ja ruumi rännakutest ja sellest mis orgasmid üldse tegelikult on... pagana ilmas aga jah.. taandarendatakse koik lihtsalt tava mõnu tasemele.. et oleks lihtne kasutada inimesi ja hoida ...
oeh, orgasmi teema nii suur teema, siin tegelikult ei hakka isegi sõna võtma praegu
muidugi need on reaalsed asjad, st nagu kes aru saab aja ja ruumi rännakutest ja sellest mis orgasmid üldse tegelikult on... pagana ilmas aga jah.. taandarendatakse koik lihtsalt tava mõnu tasemele.. et oleks lihtne kasutada inimesi ja hoida ...
oeh, orgasmi teema nii suur teema, siin tegelikult ei hakka isegi sõna võtma praegu
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8 November 2016 06:48
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She looks really nice and natural like that
8 November 2016 06:46
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On January 10, 1963, the House of Representative and later the Senate began reviewing a document entitled "Communist Goals for Taking Over America." It contained an agenda of 45 separate issues that, in hindsight was quite shocking back then and equally shocking today. Here, in part, are some key points listed in that document.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
You can see the entire list on this web page - http://www.truthtrek.net/politics/takeover.htm
Now, I am not saying that the U.S. is under some kind of Communist control, but what I do find frightening, is of the 45 issues listed, nearly all of them have come to pass. Remember this was in January 1963.
In 1963 the news media showed women burning their bras as the women's liberation movement took off with the publishing of "The Feminine Mystique" by Betty Friedan. Martin Luther King was jailed in April and civil unrest was being brought to the forefront. On August 28th the media brought us live coverage of the march on Washington and Dr. Kings famous "I had a dream" speech. The Cuban missile crisis found its way in to our homes and our nation was gearing up for conflict.
By September of 1963 we had lost some very influential people, Pope John XXIII, Robert Frost, and country legend Patsy Cline, to name a few. In the early hours of November 22nd we learned of the quiet passing of C.S. Lewis and hours later we were brought to our knees when President John F. Kennedy was assassinated and our nation mourned.
So you see, while long since forgotten, 1963 could very well have been, one of the most important years since our founding fathers provided us with the Constitution of the United States. Which brings me to one final and extremely important decision that was made during this most provocative year.
On June 17, 1963 the U.S. Supreme Court concluded that any Bible reciting or prayer, in public schools, was deemed unconstitutional.
While American's have endured great prosperity over the past 40 years we have also lost our moral compass and direction. In reviewing the research, data supports 1963 as a focal point, demonstrating a downward slope in our moral and social decline through 2001.
Certainly, one would have to agree that all of these events have had a profound impact on the way our current social structure has been changed. Personally, if I had to choose one specific event that has demonstrated the demoralization of our country, it would have to be the decision of the U.S Supreme Court in June of 1963.
But there is always "hope." As always, I welcome your comments and can easily be reached. Thanks for the response to "Daddy, What's Fluoride?" My email is: greg@truthtrek.net
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From Founders' America
foundersamerica@hotmail.com
12-7-2
// lol,, still one had to add up the disarm part.. as if freedom would be hidden in a war toys.. but in truth, in criminal america this SURES that mafia and gangs will stay in power and can force police more harder on people..by this making people LESS like and trust their own government.. simple..
Jeff...adding a couple of my own numbers:
__ 46. Import anti-white racists from the Third World, via an open-borders policy, then force their integration to divide and conquer white Western civilization in North America.
__ 47. Feminize and disarm both the citizenry and military; especially disarm white males.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
You can see the entire list on this web page - http://www.truthtrek.net/politics/takeover.htm
Now, I am not saying that the U.S. is under some kind of Communist control, but what I do find frightening, is of the 45 issues listed, nearly all of them have come to pass. Remember this was in January 1963.
In 1963 the news media showed women burning their bras as the women's liberation movement took off with the publishing of "The Feminine Mystique" by Betty Friedan. Martin Luther King was jailed in April and civil unrest was being brought to the forefront. On August 28th the media brought us live coverage of the march on Washington and Dr. Kings famous "I had a dream" speech. The Cuban missile crisis found its way in to our homes and our nation was gearing up for conflict.
By September of 1963 we had lost some very influential people, Pope John XXIII, Robert Frost, and country legend Patsy Cline, to name a few. In the early hours of November 22nd we learned of the quiet passing of C.S. Lewis and hours later we were brought to our knees when President John F. Kennedy was assassinated and our nation mourned.
So you see, while long since forgotten, 1963 could very well have been, one of the most important years since our founding fathers provided us with the Constitution of the United States. Which brings me to one final and extremely important decision that was made during this most provocative year.
On June 17, 1963 the U.S. Supreme Court concluded that any Bible reciting or prayer, in public schools, was deemed unconstitutional.
While American's have endured great prosperity over the past 40 years we have also lost our moral compass and direction. In reviewing the research, data supports 1963 as a focal point, demonstrating a downward slope in our moral and social decline through 2001.
Certainly, one would have to agree that all of these events have had a profound impact on the way our current social structure has been changed. Personally, if I had to choose one specific event that has demonstrated the demoralization of our country, it would have to be the decision of the U.S Supreme Court in June of 1963.
But there is always "hope." As always, I welcome your comments and can easily be reached. Thanks for the response to "Daddy, What's Fluoride?" My email is: greg@truthtrek.net
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From Founders' America
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12-7-2
// lol,, still one had to add up the disarm part.. as if freedom would be hidden in a war toys.. but in truth, in criminal america this SURES that mafia and gangs will stay in power and can force police more harder on people..by this making people LESS like and trust their own government.. simple..
Jeff...adding a couple of my own numbers:
__ 46. Import anti-white racists from the Third World, via an open-borders policy, then force their integration to divide and conquer white Western civilization in North America.
__ 47. Feminize and disarm both the citizenry and military; especially disarm white males.
http://www.truthtrek.net/politics/takeover.htm
8 November 2016 06:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The website it self is also communist origins, but here we go:
Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963 .
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
http://www.truthcontrol.com/articles/communist-takeover-america-predicted-congressional-record-1963
Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963 .
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
http://www.truthcontrol.com/articles/communist-takeover-america-predicted-congressional-record-1963
http://www.truthcontrol.com/articles/communist-takeover-america-predicted-congressional-record-1963
8 November 2016 06:32
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can you also hook it up with any normal smartphone or must be iphone?
http://www.truthcontrol.com/files/truthcontrol/images/Apple%20Alien.png
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8 November 2016 06:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
HTC lumina 800....
but daytime is normal at least..
as i have lived with near like hermit, and only used things that are given to me (whit out asking) or what is found.. in past years... the i guess good is even that (well, everything is given ... from shoes to bread that i "skipped" from a bin )
Next year perhaps will start to live in finance world again... but carefully..
but daytime is normal at least..
as i have lived with near like hermit, and only used things that are given to me (whit out asking) or what is found.. in past years... the i guess good is even that (well, everything is given ... from shoes to bread that i "skipped" from a bin )
Next year perhaps will start to live in finance world again... but carefully..
8 November 2016 06:05
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8 November 2016 05:59
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amazing
8 November 2016 05:38
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
THe FBI must have a lot to hide then...
Also perhaps there is a lot of Scientology people in it
Also perhaps there is a lot of Scientology people in it
8 November 2016 05:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
is that in how dark room?
8 November 2016 05:30
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but these cameras on phone.. are just sad on night time..
8 November 2016 05:30
Margus Meigo commented on Massimo Bernardotti's post.
Sorry for a crappy links, full of unneeded data collectors.
one more, Vincent Foster:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/FOSTER_COVERUP/SUICIDE/suicide.html
one more, Vincent Foster:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/FOSTER_COVERUP/SUICIDE/suicide.html
8 November 2016 05:28
Margus Meigo commented on Massimo Bernardotti's post.
Or my other favorite one, the Gary Webb,
Why they even write these LONG story's about specializations .. when it must be first Clear what happen, tell the truth, and then speculate on what others speculate by adding why it is so or not...
But these long long story's..
When this age comes to end, when this is legal.. but when is possible that Mary Florence Barnett shoot two times with a shoot gun.. then why not wit ha pistol ... just makes me drunk this media..
https://www.thenation.com/article/new-york-times-wants-gary-webb-stay-dead/
Why they even write these LONG story's about specializations .. when it must be first Clear what happen, tell the truth, and then speculate on what others speculate by adding why it is so or not...
But these long long story's..
When this age comes to end, when this is legal.. but when is possible that Mary Florence Barnett shoot two times with a shoot gun.. then why not wit ha pistol ... just makes me drunk this media..
https://www.thenation.com/article/new-york-times-wants-gary-webb-stay-dead/
8 November 2016 05:25
Margus Meigo commented on Massimo Bernardotti's post.
Or famous suicide of Her, Mary Florence "Flo" Barnett... i mean, what police investigated to be suicide..
(strange thing, before, in google search there was some years ago only few results of that story, now the pages has come back again, this is just first random page am got from Alphabet )
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/the-strange-death-of-flo-barnett-mother-in-law-to-scientology-leader-david-miscavige-6667918
(strange thing, before, in google search there was some years ago only few results of that story, now the pages has come back again, this is just first random page am got from Alphabet )
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/the-strange-death-of-flo-barnett-mother-in-law-to-scientology-leader-david-miscavige-6667918
8 November 2016 05:20
Margus Meigo commented on Massimo Bernardotti's post.
I remember, when they first wrote about Gareth Williams , that he also killed him self by accident or by a sex game... IN a special agents Safe House ...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mi6-spy-found-dead-holdall-6479629
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mi6-spy-found-dead-holdall-6479629
8 November 2016 05:17
Margus Meigo commented on Massimo Bernardotti's post.
In Generally, no one is falling out from these kind of ideologies, for real,
if they do... they do fall out from buildings on windy day.
It is more benefit for them to enjoy and serve in all sides. And who has seen inside the devils home, must be nuts or religious to step against it... (stupid is not an option, as these kinds will not be accessing to putin anyway... as the game has ALWAYS been MUCH bigger the just the cold war and Russia,
these kind of people Always think more larger then the planet )
if they do... they do fall out from buildings on windy day.
It is more benefit for them to enjoy and serve in all sides. And who has seen inside the devils home, must be nuts or religious to step against it... (stupid is not an option, as these kinds will not be accessing to putin anyway... as the game has ALWAYS been MUCH bigger the just the cold war and Russia,
these kind of people Always think more larger then the planet )
8 November 2016 05:10
Margus Meigo commented on Massimo Bernardotti's post.
For me these emails seem so good, i assumed, she her self made it happen, to secure her election and back .
So people can see, honesty
So people can see, honesty
8 November 2016 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on Flavio Bernardotti's post.
Amazingly great work
to take it on these lengths and take effort to explain it so well,
great combination of work, activity and smartness .
If they would do same, for ALL negative Clinton theoretic.. the discovery would be great also, but more complicated even as many sells are invoked naturally in local human networks
as issue is big... as people are infected also in minds, so there would be no electronica trace
to take it on these lengths and take effort to explain it so well,
great combination of work, activity and smartness .
If they would do same, for ALL negative Clinton theoretic.. the discovery would be great also, but more complicated even as many sells are invoked naturally in local human networks
as issue is big... as people are infected also in minds, so there would be no electronica trace
8 November 2016 05:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
8 November 2016 04:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sounds/looks a like
8 November 2016 04:49
Margus Meigo commented on Flavio Bernardotti's post.
High end electronica hw magic
8 November 2016 04:48
Margus Meigo replied to Alessandra Manuppelli's comment.
"these people"
us, man, You meant ?
us, man, You meant ?
8 November 2016 04:43
Margus Meigo replied to Alessandra Manuppelli's comment.
but the election in USA has mapped as important point in history for this, can be nearly as important as 2000 years ago event,
when we will turn on to Matriarchy again after 5000 years of battle against Good
when we will turn on to Matriarchy again after 5000 years of battle against Good
8 November 2016 04:40
Margus Meigo replied to Alessandra Manuppelli's comment.
Monotheism is alright, Patriarchy is the problem here.
8 November 2016 04:38
Margus Meigo replied to Alessandra Manuppelli's comment.
the world "God" has meaning of ALL inside what relates as important to a huMAN (a Women is higher spirit being, manifested the body FOR a man with co-operation of God )
8 November 2016 04:35
Margus Meigo replied to Alessandra Manuppelli's comment.
Most important in HUMAN language, is to focus Woman, Nature, God
Nature IS what keeps God Alive, is someone fails to understand this, then they are far from a REAL God, that give birth tu us, in co-operation with female spirit and plants.
Nature IS what keeps God Alive, is someone fails to understand this, then they are far from a REAL God, that give birth tu us, in co-operation with female spirit and plants.
8 November 2016 04:34
Margus Meigo replied to Salvo Granata's comment.
Not in the bible, but in the NEW Testament,
The new, that is Not recognized as official document by most deep believers, as proper bible ended in OLD testament,
with the words that meant "The Saver that comes is that one who connects parents with their children again"
and this has not jet happened.. unless we do it.
Holy Spirit is the Female, also the Wisdom
God is God..
and well.. what Sun.. why would CHRIST let IT SELF .. be baptized on HES OWN name (as the son)?
The new, that is Not recognized as official document by most deep believers, as proper bible ended in OLD testament,
with the words that meant "The Saver that comes is that one who connects parents with their children again"
and this has not jet happened.. unless we do it.
Holy Spirit is the Female, also the Wisdom
God is God..
and well.. what Sun.. why would CHRIST let IT SELF .. be baptized on HES OWN name (as the son)?
8 November 2016 04:32
Margus Meigo commented on Flavio Bernardotti's post.
i wish my camera would be able to identify anything at all in poor light , still great progress, gotta love it
8 November 2016 04:27
Margus Meigo commented on Tyr Chlis's post.
But most radical one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFoimWJTroQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFoimWJTroQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFoimWJTroQ
8 November 2016 04:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey she is a bit radical on beginning announcements :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll-gElG8H2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll-gElG8H2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll-gElG8H2g
8 November 2016 04:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in here some bits also good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0bH6Z_OSp8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0bH6Z_OSp8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0bH6Z_OSp8
8 November 2016 04:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3sq2rM3VmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3sq2rM3VmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3sq2rM3VmE
8 November 2016 04:08
Margus Meigo commented on Tyr Chlis's post.
After Hebrews made the "unite the beards" in NY, campaign and learn more about herbs.. they declared it legit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHyKhglJRN0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHyKhglJRN0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHyKhglJRN0
8 November 2016 04:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just added it here, to let our minds to think something extra : )
8 November 2016 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And when religious right winder like me feels it is terrible disservice done for "Leftist" candidate, it must be really bad..
But of-course,i am on Clinton side, as She is the one who actually represents ,the values that are from the "right" side,
while still as a job she have to also fulfill some of the "leftist" agendas that she is not really personally like, as she is women,
all women in heart (as women's are by nature more then man), who are good, like honest healthy Women and Man relationships
But of-course,i am on Clinton side, as She is the one who actually represents ,the values that are from the "right" side,
while still as a job she have to also fulfill some of the "leftist" agendas that she is not really personally like, as she is women,
all women in heart (as women's are by nature more then man), who are good, like honest healthy Women and Man relationships
8 November 2016 04:03
Margus Meigo commented on Tyr Chlis's post.
So the NSL is turned anti Clinton also +?
Looking for linguistic, psychological and graphical and human perspective (besides makeup mistakes and colors), this all does not support Hillary on levels she deserves.
True jokes must appeal to upper intelligent class, to royal people, then it is proper, not to the ones who already have made up their mind and is unable to see criticism on their own side.
There is so many terrible anti Clinton mistakes that can be seen from just this clip that i will not bother to look rest of it. .
With world top television, world most important, near planetary most important election after Jesus and with all this money, one would assume that Network would have balls to take sides at least, not teach people behave in fake ways
Looking for linguistic, psychological and graphical and human perspective (besides makeup mistakes and colors), this all does not support Hillary on levels she deserves.
True jokes must appeal to upper intelligent class, to royal people, then it is proper, not to the ones who already have made up their mind and is unable to see criticism on their own side.
There is so many terrible anti Clinton mistakes that can be seen from just this clip that i will not bother to look rest of it. .
With world top television, world most important, near planetary most important election after Jesus and with all this money, one would assume that Network would have balls to take sides at least, not teach people behave in fake ways
8 November 2016 04:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(but now when Clinton's Dynasty is winning, the plan behind a doors that they think was upfront in time.. will be joked out.. plan that had worked so long.. will be laughed out as in the Russian music video, on to what i still post extra images for explanation to all levels.. more important is to believe now. ... to be carried on to this part of world that evolves... as the ones in soul factory most likely will also keep the sample of another version... for some time .. and the soul focus points that have left , that stay in the Trump world, i mean even if they voted for Hillary but was afraid or not sure.. .. their body copy will just be eliminated on the pure version of world, once is needed... they not drop dead on spot next day... but their soul, spirit is left.. and they will continue autopilot her,e smiling.. for some time... but not Actually reproducing their roots, as they will be in another Earth sample box . Computer graphics for that will help greatly to explain the simple world buildings and who stay in what kind of world ,like the pre 2012 selection and separation was.. difference was, that it was still realitivelly easy to jump from sinking version on to real version, for some time,
compared to some proper eliminations , separations of souls (by the soul focus points), ... that can take place in a worlds where situations and directions go so separate ways and a bit toxic even.. )
(on 2012 is was not about so much of direction, as direction was similar, but who made it and who made not, by lack of size of belief and purity..)
For sure, there is entire part of country and religious people who are not much touch by it as them focus point is so vital, that it will be always saved in and and copied on to most living versions, and saved before sinking the sinking versions.. .. but keeped in a terrible versions their focus point for a deep love they can initiate and other good they can make in these versions of worlds... with no harm for them self, even if they not manage to save anyone,
this is kind of like outside ,the ones who say they are "saved" or "born again" except most of them will newer talk about it, to be real
compared to some proper eliminations , separations of souls (by the soul focus points), ... that can take place in a worlds where situations and directions go so separate ways and a bit toxic even.. )
(on 2012 is was not about so much of direction, as direction was similar, but who made it and who made not, by lack of size of belief and purity..)
For sure, there is entire part of country and religious people who are not much touch by it as them focus point is so vital, that it will be always saved in and and copied on to most living versions, and saved before sinking the sinking versions.. .. but keeped in a terrible versions their focus point for a deep love they can initiate and other good they can make in these versions of worlds... with no harm for them self, even if they not manage to save anyone,
this is kind of like outside ,the ones who say they are "saved" or "born again" except most of them will newer talk about it, to be real
8 November 2016 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ONe plan for Trump supporter ' s is even to act and behave like this... and them would get a strong hand of support, when Trump activates hes personal protection and forces upfront,
even gunning down an opponent if needed, to bring in trial, with whatever "anti american" charges can be made. ..
the last situation luckily they do not have balls to make, but it would also be possible, this is the saddest thing that people not realize, that this WOULD go well, with majority of people, as they want to see some "real power"
but forget, this is the "real power" that has hold them down.. and they show their claws ONLY when needed, when some one ACTUALLY threaten their Establishment,
like REALLY threatening.. and them can be only ... the evil attacked from inside the nest they have Created... and the situation in history, how much shame for a lost, would cause..
as they had idea by 2020 turn them self up there.. with a fake "right" side..
even gunning down an opponent if needed, to bring in trial, with whatever "anti american" charges can be made. ..
the last situation luckily they do not have balls to make, but it would also be possible, this is the saddest thing that people not realize, that this WOULD go well, with majority of people, as they want to see some "real power"
but forget, this is the "real power" that has hold them down.. and they show their claws ONLY when needed, when some one ACTUALLY threaten their Establishment,
like REALLY threatening.. and them can be only ... the evil attacked from inside the nest they have Created... and the situation in history, how much shame for a lost, would cause..
as they had idea by 2020 turn them self up there.. with a fake "right" side..
8 November 2016 02:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Real liberals headed by commander, father figure:
(and they registered on purpose this, for future reasons, while most of the world lives still in imagination as liberal and democracy is something soft and nice... this is why psychologically Russia is ahead of most good hearted hard working people in ties, ... and when i talk about Russia, we talk about ROman Empire.. who newer planned USA to actually threaten their future position, based on they are built on half of Eagle as Germany ..)
(and they registered on purpose this, for future reasons, while most of the world lives still in imagination as liberal and democracy is something soft and nice... this is why psychologically Russia is ahead of most good hearted hard working people in ties, ... and when i talk about Russia, we talk about ROman Empire.. who newer planned USA to actually threaten their future position, based on they are built on half of Eagle as Germany ..)
8 November 2016 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This IS correct behavior, handling sick or evil people, this is why the one with bad manners and ideas can be popular as they are correct on really deep behavor (this in the video is respectful, honest behavior, i repeat, not bad, in video).
He knows the slime or evilness of these kind of people as he's kind of organizations help to produce them for their own agenda to sink opponents in to destruction...
and on case of so sure behavior, one does not even dare to think, that attacker can be wrong otr that attacked one is less then bad... the problem is that SAME situation CAN be applied also on attack against good on well chosen spot and moment, i saw it on streets often.
Best protection is attack at often.. for these kinds,
and the issue is not if Ziriv is in heart good or bad (is not evil in the sense of a sick man who is not a human, as he is a human, just ones brain and beliefs are rooted and vired up another way, from another time..).. hes issue is that HE, him self is a fictim of these forces, that produce evil, but like to stay while producing it, on the side of humanity. ads this is only side where life is what can be tasted. in here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4r8cKD0ivg
He knows the slime or evilness of these kind of people as he's kind of organizations help to produce them for their own agenda to sink opponents in to destruction...
and on case of so sure behavior, one does not even dare to think, that attacker can be wrong otr that attacked one is less then bad... the problem is that SAME situation CAN be applied also on attack against good on well chosen spot and moment, i saw it on streets often.
Best protection is attack at often.. for these kinds,
and the issue is not if Ziriv is in heart good or bad (is not evil in the sense of a sick man who is not a human, as he is a human, just ones brain and beliefs are rooted and vired up another way, from another time..).. hes issue is that HE, him self is a fictim of these forces, that produce evil, but like to stay while producing it, on the side of humanity. ads this is only side where life is what can be tasted. in here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4r8cKD0ivg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4r8cKD0ivg
8 November 2016 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
You have to step two steps in to future and base Your sayings on that, on heart,
so humans can see, that they can move with ya, and You will be waiting then in the dream what they have been dreaming for, for real
so humans can see, that they can move with ya, and You will be waiting then in the dream what they have been dreaming for, for real
8 November 2016 02:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
bdw: once more.
These EMAIL s ARE G.O.O.D!
How many times people have to read this email archive to get it ?
These EMAIL s ARE G.O.O.D!
How many times people have to read this email archive to get it ?
8 November 2016 01:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
then blaspheming Her with things that people do not understand but agree "is bad" (but actually is good)
And same time NOT bringing up any REAL deeper points of the Trump issue in Words other then soft core layers that appear as issue is touched but is not really, it is just something that has let it slide...
So is She accnologging, in real life, that most of Her support, the "Liberal media" is by nature, Not on Her side?
So this win, can Only come by the higher powers, ...
all kind of fake norms that the same forces has made, that made the "liberal" force, to stop people speaking truth, if they need to sufficate "their own" people ... these why the power has last in most lands.. and spread.. as tactics are non stop.. and on all sides (as left and right, work togheder, to keep Matriarchy and real religion, real nature love, real Christianity out of picture)
---
wht in a world this image say's to you..
can You NOT with a billions of dollars, be able to find better actor, better setting and better jokes, if You Really would be for her? Really ?
---
It is not about who get a joke, it is who understand s a Humor and human mind how it will interact on personal and mass scale with combination of images, words and situations on given time that human is surrounded with
And same time NOT bringing up any REAL deeper points of the Trump issue in Words other then soft core layers that appear as issue is touched but is not really, it is just something that has let it slide...
So is She accnologging, in real life, that most of Her support, the "Liberal media" is by nature, Not on Her side?
So this win, can Only come by the higher powers, ...
all kind of fake norms that the same forces has made, that made the "liberal" force, to stop people speaking truth, if they need to sufficate "their own" people ... these why the power has last in most lands.. and spread.. as tactics are non stop.. and on all sides (as left and right, work togheder, to keep Matriarchy and real religion, real nature love, real Christianity out of picture)
---
wht in a world this image say's to you..
can You NOT with a billions of dollars, be able to find better actor, better setting and better jokes, if You Really would be for her? Really ?
---
It is not about who get a joke, it is who understand s a Humor and human mind how it will interact on personal and mass scale with combination of images, words and situations on given time that human is surrounded with
8 November 2016 01:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
thank's to these kind of LIBERAL Deeper level attacks on Her that hurt and ruin Her Chances most. (and they make it so PLAIN sight, not even hiding, dressing trump to Blue, putting natural colors and shapes behind Trump, dressing her to Red, putting robotic "sift away" from her slogans on Her back, and choosing actor who has negative energy and natural bitterns (+wrong makeup) in her and who can make Her look ckoo-ckoo .. this is just for starters)
(as her mission is to get America faster on to this direction that Drump have to get anyway.. as world new order is going to sift as it is planned, to a Matriarchy )
(as her mission is to get America faster on to this direction that Drump have to get anyway.. as world new order is going to sift as it is planned, to a Matriarchy )
8 November 2016 01:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Why CAN'T You??
What is wrong... You got all the media on Your fingertips.. but because it is controlled, the Liberal media, by people who are in heart ANTI CLINTON..
(even if they are on paper, Pro "Her kind of political party" etc) then they can only as typically take middle line..when is needed not to give positive energy to Her, but appear as they do... as the point is not to make soft jokes that appeal to "Liberals" so they say "okey, thatch almost okey" but point is to appeal to intelligent conservatives, so they can dare to think about the situation clear way, so them can see, that there is great intelligence and hope in all sides but out of all is needed to choose clearly best side, for now, whatever is the costume.
(as True liberals are the kind, like Zhirinovsky's party head, just they produce the fake hippies and copy 's of all kind of Rights fighters, for trolling and controlling and for eliminating these really same organizations they copy).
I bet Estonia can get 1 million fans before any other European Country.
What is wrong... You got all the media on Your fingertips.. but because it is controlled, the Liberal media, by people who are in heart ANTI CLINTON..
(even if they are on paper, Pro "Her kind of political party" etc) then they can only as typically take middle line..when is needed not to give positive energy to Her, but appear as they do... as the point is not to make soft jokes that appeal to "Liberals" so they say "okey, thatch almost okey" but point is to appeal to intelligent conservatives, so they can dare to think about the situation clear way, so them can see, that there is great intelligence and hope in all sides but out of all is needed to choose clearly best side, for now, whatever is the costume.
(as True liberals are the kind, like Zhirinovsky's party head, just they produce the fake hippies and copy 's of all kind of Rights fighters, for trolling and controlling and for eliminating these really same organizations they copy).
I bet Estonia can get 1 million fans before any other European Country.
8 November 2016 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on Lea Crichton's post.
But it is kind of strange right, that After Russia has long time told, they will elect their Own president in USA, that fits to Russsia vision of restoring Roman Empire like Global power of long time ago invaded aria called Russia, .. then years later, this same man who told that, in Russia High up gov, is told to be best friend of Trump
in Russia
Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia
in Russia
Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia
8 November 2016 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
he is good.
8 November 2016 01:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Clinton : “On Day One of my Administration, I will work for you. I will fight for you. And I will not blow up the planet.”
8 November 2016 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on Lea Crichton's post.
"“The American people have just had eight years of a President who didn’t blow up the planet,” Conway said. “Donald Trump is offering something different.”
8 November 2016 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Well, the Putin News is also, based on reallity, these jokes work best that are actually true
8 November 2016 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Good point taken: "
"The Russian President seemed to relish the warm response he got at his first Trump rally, in Tampa, where he led the crowd in a raucous chant of “Lock her up.”
"While some in the media criticized the Trump campaign for allowing Putin to influence the outcome of a U.S. election, the Republican nominee’s campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, pushed back in an appearance on CNN.
“This is just another case of media bias against Donald Trump,” she said. “Jay Z and Beyoncé, who have no experience in government at all, are allowed to campaign for Hillary Clinton, but Vladimir Putin, who actually runs an entire country, can’t appear with Donald Trump? Come on.”
A Republican strategist, Harland Dorrinson, called the Trump campaign’s use of Putin in crucial battleground states “very, very smart.”
Day nears, the Trump campaign has enlisted President Vladimir Putin, of Russia, to appear with the Republican nominee in a dizzying array of swing-state rallies over the weekend.
Putin will be the most visible Trump surrogate in the final weekend of the campaign, as he tries to fire up voters in Florida, North Carolina, Colorado, and Nevada.
(just for note: it is "BOROWITZ REPORT" by Comedian: Andy Borowitz, but is by far, not far from truth)
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/putin-appears-with-trump-in-flurry-of-swing-state-rallies
"The Russian President seemed to relish the warm response he got at his first Trump rally, in Tampa, where he led the crowd in a raucous chant of “Lock her up.”
"While some in the media criticized the Trump campaign for allowing Putin to influence the outcome of a U.S. election, the Republican nominee’s campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, pushed back in an appearance on CNN.
“This is just another case of media bias against Donald Trump,” she said. “Jay Z and Beyoncé, who have no experience in government at all, are allowed to campaign for Hillary Clinton, but Vladimir Putin, who actually runs an entire country, can’t appear with Donald Trump? Come on.”
A Republican strategist, Harland Dorrinson, called the Trump campaign’s use of Putin in crucial battleground states “very, very smart.”
Day nears, the Trump campaign has enlisted President Vladimir Putin, of Russia, to appear with the Republican nominee in a dizzying array of swing-state rallies over the weekend.
Putin will be the most visible Trump surrogate in the final weekend of the campaign, as he tries to fire up voters in Florida, North Carolina, Colorado, and Nevada.
(just for note: it is "BOROWITZ REPORT" by Comedian: Andy Borowitz, but is by far, not far from truth)
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/putin-appears-with-trump-in-flurry-of-swing-state-rallies
8 November 2016 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on Lea Crichton's post.
rest of related story's are great as well, this newspaper has sense of humor it seems
8 November 2016 01:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
...ja võtaks putinilt kohe auvande, või kellelt iganes kes tuleb võimu ja suure globaalse jutuga... ja annaks meid ilma motlemata ära, nii rahapaki kui ähvarduse mõjul,
seda näha tema tegudest ja profiilist, ilma igasuguse pingutusega isegi kui ei oskaks psholoogiliselt profiilida ,
või kui poleks viamu nägemise annet.. ja tema siin meie maal tuleb ajama miskit uue valitsuse iba ja see trykitakse veel meediasse ära ka.
Loomulikult on vaja Uut, sellist kus temasugustel ei ole lubatud sõna võtta. Ja see pole midagi isikliku tema vastu, va see osa mis on, kuid selle "kultuuri", vaimuväärastuse ja jumalasvastasuse vastu, mida need praegused supperjõud jõud endas kannavad mida temasugused lipsumehed, kavalantsud esindavad, siin meie Maal (maakeral)
seda näha tema tegudest ja profiilist, ilma igasuguse pingutusega isegi kui ei oskaks psholoogiliselt profiilida ,
või kui poleks viamu nägemise annet.. ja tema siin meie maal tuleb ajama miskit uue valitsuse iba ja see trykitakse veel meediasse ära ka.
Loomulikult on vaja Uut, sellist kus temasugustel ei ole lubatud sõna võtta. Ja see pole midagi isikliku tema vastu, va see osa mis on, kuid selle "kultuuri", vaimuväärastuse ja jumalasvastasuse vastu, mida need praegused supperjõud jõud endas kannavad mida temasugused lipsumehed, kavalantsud esindavad, siin meie Maal (maakeral)
8 November 2016 00:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja nendest suurem osa elab linnas eeldatavasti, ... seega jah, meie mõistlikuse mottes vaadates, on Päris Eestlasi, kes selle maa olemusest, kutluurist ja maast aru saavad ja hoolivad, kes seda rikkuse vastu ka pika aja pärast maha ei müüüks, , neid on alla 200 000 ehk? Või on see liialt palju pakutud,
Me oleme ajaloo suurimate agresiivsemate jõudude vahel, kes kasutavad selle planeedi tipp tehnoloogiaid, meie hingede võrku püüdmiseks ja meid ajaloost kustutamiseks.. üks naeratus näol ja teine nuga seljataga irvitades... kolmas ülbitsedes käsi puusas nina pysti oodates et enende juurde roomaksime ja keegi vast veel kaugelt klähvides ...
ja siis miskid osinovzkikesed siin, kes on võlts eestlaste musternäidis, kes laskuks põlvili ja võtaks putinilt p
Me oleme ajaloo suurimate agresiivsemate jõudude vahel, kes kasutavad selle planeedi tipp tehnoloogiaid, meie hingede võrku püüdmiseks ja meid ajaloost kustutamiseks.. üks naeratus näol ja teine nuga seljataga irvitades... kolmas ülbitsedes käsi puusas nina pysti oodates et enende juurde roomaksime ja keegi vast veel kaugelt klähvides ...
ja siis miskid osinovzkikesed siin, kes on võlts eestlaste musternäidis, kes laskuks põlvili ja võtaks putinilt p
8 November 2016 00:16
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Johanson's post.
me oleme maailma väiksemaid riike, nii suure mõjuvõimu ja nii väheste rahadega... ja see suurtele mängijatele kohe kuidagi ei meeldi,
meil on 900 000 eestlast ja 300 000 (algselt meie kultuurivaenulikku, meie kultuuri likvideerimiseks toodud, eraldi madala tasemega valitud spetsiaalse programmiga) immigranti kelle oma maa liikmeteks sund integreerinud oleme ja me endiselt püsime, eestlastena, nagu midagi poleks juhtunud, ... va see et enamus nüüd üksteise otsas elavad... kuid noh, poolte Eestlaste mõttevaim ei oleenam eestlastele sobilik nagunii..
meil on 900 000 eestlast ja 300 000 (algselt meie kultuurivaenulikku, meie kultuuri likvideerimiseks toodud, eraldi madala tasemega valitud spetsiaalse programmiga) immigranti kelle oma maa liikmeteks sund integreerinud oleme ja me endiselt püsime, eestlastena, nagu midagi poleks juhtunud, ... va see et enamus nüüd üksteise otsas elavad... kuid noh, poolte Eestlaste mõttevaim ei oleenam eestlastele sobilik nagunii..
8 November 2016 00:13
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Johanson's post.
Uus valitsus tuli juba koos Kaljulaidiga ohmoon :D
Ja mis uut valitsust.. räägib nagu anarhist,
ta vist ei saa aru, et meiesuguste veel lopilkult mitte allunud riikide vastu, kes hinge pole andnud raha vastu, koikide oma inimeste hinge, neid kotitakse Globaalselt
Ja mis uut valitsust.. räägib nagu anarhist,
ta vist ei saa aru, et meiesuguste veel lopilkult mitte allunud riikide vastu, kes hinge pole andnud raha vastu, koikide oma inimeste hinge, neid kotitakse Globaalselt
8 November 2016 00:09
Margus Meigo replied to Tyr Chlis's comment.
time travel - already here
space travel - already there
beings, plants, spirit communication, instant knowledge downloads and new understandings with a being changes, instant hearings and most healthy foods for body and spirit - already here,
machines that are hundreds of meters tall - long time ago made, organic machines and A.I. long time ago done..
so what it is they try to discover.... and how good the final project can be, if them not even able to accept this what is discovered by these who was o search all that... and found with ease.
space travel - already there
beings, plants, spirit communication, instant knowledge downloads and new understandings with a being changes, instant hearings and most healthy foods for body and spirit - already here,
machines that are hundreds of meters tall - long time ago made, organic machines and A.I. long time ago done..
so what it is they try to discover.... and how good the final project can be, if them not even able to accept this what is discovered by these who was o search all that... and found with ease.
7 November 2016 19:29
Margus Meigo replied to Tyr Chlis's comment.
old times behind the Words and behind the numbers ALWAYS was something real ... the dance was real meaning and singing, for a reason, purpose, of doing something practical on big picture.. now most things are done in blind, for nothing
7 November 2016 19:24
Margus Meigo replied to Tyr Chlis's comment.
math teaches to people, in their low level understanding, that something theoretical can exist and it can have value and that you can add up things that do not exist (number) and the get new value..
if you numbers - that are Nothing, togheder ,then you get something else nothing .. if it is just a plain number..
people are trained in to virtual robot world, thinking that Nothings can add up some nothing that has value .. but these are Real nothings, the number,s not 2 carrots... but 2 numbers.. behind is Nothing, ... so it is really.. adding Nothings togheder, and nothings does not produce anything, but in virtual world it seems it does.
2 apples added to 2 carrots is something, even for a soil... but adding 2 and 2 togheder You still got a 0
eg. nothing that smells, tastes or grows
if you numbers - that are Nothing, togheder ,then you get something else nothing .. if it is just a plain number..
people are trained in to virtual robot world, thinking that Nothings can add up some nothing that has value .. but these are Real nothings, the number,s not 2 carrots... but 2 numbers.. behind is Nothing, ... so it is really.. adding Nothings togheder, and nothings does not produce anything, but in virtual world it seems it does.
2 apples added to 2 carrots is something, even for a soil... but adding 2 and 2 togheder You still got a 0
eg. nothing that smells, tastes or grows
7 November 2016 19:21
Margus Meigo replied to Tyr Chlis's comment.
mathematics is WAY over importanced,
near worshiped
unfortunately, ... some go even so far that say everything can be expressed in maths and that everything and everyone uses maths that is complete utter insane fanatic and really plain, boring understanding. as frogs and indigo children likes or other ones with physic powers (that are snapped by gov experiments as fast as possible) are not in to math...
yes.. it is useful tool in the end, for these kind of dimensions and tools we working on, but we must look how math influences people to feel less, and to imagine in virtual instead of real terms, ... i talk a really simple math, .. like people think that numbers exist,
they not. they newer was. but same time they are as a layer for communication for simple organisms programs inside humans seem to me.
as it is most basic simple way on what robots can communicate, biological or spiritual.
near worshiped
unfortunately, ... some go even so far that say everything can be expressed in maths and that everything and everyone uses maths that is complete utter insane fanatic and really plain, boring understanding. as frogs and indigo children likes or other ones with physic powers (that are snapped by gov experiments as fast as possible) are not in to math...
yes.. it is useful tool in the end, for these kind of dimensions and tools we working on, but we must look how math influences people to feel less, and to imagine in virtual instead of real terms, ... i talk a really simple math, .. like people think that numbers exist,
they not. they newer was. but same time they are as a layer for communication for simple organisms programs inside humans seem to me.
as it is most basic simple way on what robots can communicate, biological or spiritual.
7 November 2016 19:17
Margus Meigo replied to Tyr Chlis's comment.
As i told, with these tools, it will be Not allowed for them to experience, do and travel as they please or imagine,
they will be eliminated by small accident, as traveling in spiritual worlds with mechanical technology by beings less intelligent (less intelligent destructive focus-point) then the spaces they travel in (eg. they want to preserve their lower level understandings and beliefs and then bring that in to higher realm... real shared by higher, more-cooperative focus points beings in among who long time ago are various human-beings as well ) ...then the result will be ugly and destructive as communism when it come to "upgrade" the lands they occupied, eventually destroying nearly all of them,
occupying their living places and expanding..
and using the new level of knowings to expand to next one and next one... forced for help enslaved various level human beings ... and co-operating with other evil beings who want to use these kind of stupidity as a front armored train that will break through the worlds that are ahead of them, to get in to highest level of power they think exist and then use that power to dominate all powers...
on they way they help to make so many zombies and evil half conscious automatic beings and machines.. that just expand on their own often and keep destroying what ever coming on their way..
they have done this way longer then this school book history in here.,.
communism, pentagram, (that humans have try to turn in to less destructive form now, ..but it is still a pentagram..) is perfect example what happens when low level beings are allowed to expand....
but as god say, perhaps this low level, near brainless in actions forces, was needed for punishment, and for warning, for all these kinds that started to chill to much with out keeping proper line and order what they should..
Specially God chosen people, who should have been more vocal about, what is allowed and what is not.. but maybe their plan is so smart and big, that it took in to account the extreme corruption of their own ancestry and children in all lands.. and THEN when they are becoming one with a evil will pull them back and activate inside the evil forces, for more deeper cleaning.
This is the main hope that seems logical, why them have been so little vocal about what is allowed to do in Earth and what is not.. ( produce anything in mass scale, that does not evolve the audience, is not necessary, specially for long years and when it is interactive or passive instead of just plain ugly or little useful as furniture or tools, why there is no prison sentences for producing wrong kind of items and producing wrong kind of news or music, music that de-evolves humans by lyric's... is something that is really harmful for higher worlds )
they will be eliminated by small accident, as traveling in spiritual worlds with mechanical technology by beings less intelligent (less intelligent destructive focus-point) then the spaces they travel in (eg. they want to preserve their lower level understandings and beliefs and then bring that in to higher realm... real shared by higher, more-cooperative focus points beings in among who long time ago are various human-beings as well ) ...then the result will be ugly and destructive as communism when it come to "upgrade" the lands they occupied, eventually destroying nearly all of them,
occupying their living places and expanding..
and using the new level of knowings to expand to next one and next one... forced for help enslaved various level human beings ... and co-operating with other evil beings who want to use these kind of stupidity as a front armored train that will break through the worlds that are ahead of them, to get in to highest level of power they think exist and then use that power to dominate all powers...
on they way they help to make so many zombies and evil half conscious automatic beings and machines.. that just expand on their own often and keep destroying what ever coming on their way..
they have done this way longer then this school book history in here.,.
communism, pentagram, (that humans have try to turn in to less destructive form now, ..but it is still a pentagram..) is perfect example what happens when low level beings are allowed to expand....
but as god say, perhaps this low level, near brainless in actions forces, was needed for punishment, and for warning, for all these kinds that started to chill to much with out keeping proper line and order what they should..
Specially God chosen people, who should have been more vocal about, what is allowed and what is not.. but maybe their plan is so smart and big, that it took in to account the extreme corruption of their own ancestry and children in all lands.. and THEN when they are becoming one with a evil will pull them back and activate inside the evil forces, for more deeper cleaning.
This is the main hope that seems logical, why them have been so little vocal about what is allowed to do in Earth and what is not.. ( produce anything in mass scale, that does not evolve the audience, is not necessary, specially for long years and when it is interactive or passive instead of just plain ugly or little useful as furniture or tools, why there is no prison sentences for producing wrong kind of items and producing wrong kind of news or music, music that de-evolves humans by lyric's... is something that is really harmful for higher worlds )
7 November 2016 19:11
Margus Meigo replied to Tyr Chlis's comment.
i not agree with all You say but the way you thinking about it in the end, is in direction of correct or rather pleasing.
LHC is still more of pure fantasy, theory and imagination more then actual real proof of dimensions, ... unless they hide the main part of their discovery, ... like HOW they in human form experienced the different time, different dimensions and beings.
Just because they use tools produced by what they know as science does not make it science even by their own terms.
Specially if they use these tools in theoretical random way by not knowing upfront what is happening (or not know what to want to happen) .
Is big difference, if one has experienced spirit transfer or orgasm even or just study it theoretical way and will die out before putting the orgasm in to use.
LHC is still more of pure fantasy, theory and imagination more then actual real proof of dimensions, ... unless they hide the main part of their discovery, ... like HOW they in human form experienced the different time, different dimensions and beings.
Just because they use tools produced by what they know as science does not make it science even by their own terms.
Specially if they use these tools in theoretical random way by not knowing upfront what is happening (or not know what to want to happen) .
Is big difference, if one has experienced spirit transfer or orgasm even or just study it theoretical way and will die out before putting the orgasm in to use.
7 November 2016 18:54
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
lies are like web in what liars eventually trap them self so deep, that they shoke them self... so this is why is important to keep tap on their imaginations and propaganda, to help with a progress
7 November 2016 18:43
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
eriti kuna need kokku midagi tarka ei andnud
7 November 2016 18:42
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
laienda oma mõtteid, kuidagi väheseks jäi paarist sonast
7 November 2016 18:41
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
avastasid inner childi ja räägid kõvasti oma mõtteid või mille pihta see käis ?
7 November 2016 18:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
You do understand, that these, who make our life impossible, who make politicians corrupt and wars happen, ARE these forces that drive on Trump.
if You not have get that simple trick, then ... wonder what else You have not get, when it is plain sight on You.
if You not have get that simple trick, then ... wonder what else You have not get, when it is plain sight on You.
7 November 2016 18:38
Margus Meigo commented on The Free Thought Project's photo.
What a psychological brainwashing trick.
How in the fuck Trump, the communist, the Roman Empire and Slave Society Elite boy, the Zirinovskis puppet who he told they will put in to presidency, how in a world he ended up as "anti establishment" ?
If ANYTHING then Hillary is Most anti-establishment choice america EVER had chance to choose, even nearly more then Kennedy, and he was assassinated.
You do understand, that these, who make our life impossible, who make politicians corrupt and wars happen, ARE these forces that drive on Trump.
if You not have get that simple trick, then ... wonder what else You have not get, when it is plain sight on You.
How in the fuck Trump, the communist, the Roman Empire and Slave Society Elite boy, the Zirinovskis puppet who he told they will put in to presidency, how in a world he ended up as "anti establishment" ?
If ANYTHING then Hillary is Most anti-establishment choice america EVER had chance to choose, even nearly more then Kennedy, and he was assassinated.
You do understand, that these, who make our life impossible, who make politicians corrupt and wars happen, ARE these forces that drive on Trump.
if You not have get that simple trick, then ... wonder what else You have not get, when it is plain sight on You.
7 November 2016 18:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Müller: "saatan peitub detailides"
Margus: "Jah, ja saatana vastu tuleb astuda..."
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esimese samba ideest, kus pension sõltub sellest kui kaua sa töötasid mitte aga sellest kui suurt palka said.
kui palju peaks ta lisaks 1-2 sambale korvale panema, et säilitada ja...
1983 aasta järgsetel on kohustuslik teine sammas...
// saate lõpus tuli reklaam teatrist "Müller peab lahkuma"
(asjalik mees muidu küsimuste osas)
Margus: "Jah, ja saatana vastu tuleb astuda..."
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esimese samba ideest, kus pension sõltub sellest kui kaua sa töötasid mitte aga sellest kui suurt palka said.
kui palju peaks ta lisaks 1-2 sambale korvale panema, et säilitada ja...
1983 aasta järgsetel on kohustuslik teine sammas...
// saate lõpus tuli reklaam teatrist "Müller peab lahkuma"
(asjalik mees muidu küsimuste osas)
7 November 2016 15:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Liisi, arvutasite, et meie praeguse keskmise palga osas, mis on 1100 / 880 eurot..... Lisaks Esimesele ja Teisele sambale, peaks inimene kolmandasse sambasse lisaks panema: meesterahvas: 144 ja naine 171 eurot.
Müller: "Millest see kõneleb?"
Liisi Uder: "See kõneleb sellest kui väike on see pension, mida me riigilt saama hakkame. Kui tahate pooltki sama hästi elama hakata siis peaksite pool sellest lisaks veel säästama, peale pidevat korraliku palka ja pensionite maksmist.. "
(ja veel ma isegi pole kindel, kas see hinna ja raha muutusi on arvesse võtnud, näiteks kunagise krooni algus ja praeguse euro numbriline väärtus on 1:1 le... see mis 16 korda erinev oli algusest peale sonastuses... // ehk siis numbriliselt hinnad 16 korda tõusnud ja palgad siis ka vist eks.. kuid .. kuhu ja miks tõuseb.. mis juhtuks kui need asjad hoida samas tasemes.... kui üldse, paks asjad odavamaks minema, palju.... kuid see üldiselt väga yhekylgne ja poolik filosoofia.. kuid kolab hästi lagselt )
Müller: "Millest see kõneleb?"
Liisi Uder: "See kõneleb sellest kui väike on see pension, mida me riigilt saama hakkame. Kui tahate pooltki sama hästi elama hakata siis peaksite pool sellest lisaks veel säästama, peale pidevat korraliku palka ja pensionite maksmist.. "
(ja veel ma isegi pole kindel, kas see hinna ja raha muutusi on arvesse võtnud, näiteks kunagise krooni algus ja praeguse euro numbriline väärtus on 1:1 le... see mis 16 korda erinev oli algusest peale sonastuses... // ehk siis numbriliselt hinnad 16 korda tõusnud ja palgad siis ka vist eks.. kuid .. kuhu ja miks tõuseb.. mis juhtuks kui need asjad hoida samas tasemes.... kui üldse, paks asjad odavamaks minema, palju.... kuid see üldiselt väga yhekylgne ja poolik filosoofia.. kuid kolab hästi lagselt )
7 November 2016 15:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muidugi kui liberalism tänapäevases astmes ja sotsalism läbisegi on siis on suht arusaamatu mida nõutakse ja mida nõudjad ise aru saavad mida nõuavad ja kes nad on.
7 November 2016 14:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"State Socialism (German: Staatssozialismus) was a term introduced to describe Otto von Bismarck's social welfare policies. The term was actually coined by Bismarck's liberal opposition but later accepted by Bismarck. They refer to a set of social programs implemented in Germany that were initiated by Bismarck in 1883 as remedial measures to appease the working class and detract support for socialism and the Social Democratic Party of Germany following earlier attempts to achieve the same objective through Bismarck's anti-socialist laws"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Socialism_(Germany)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Socialism_(Germany)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Socialism_(Germany)
7 November 2016 14:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Do not let us be tilted.
I am an atheist, but I am an Orthodox atheist.
You asked for rain-I gave you the rain.
As a child I grew up among animals and plants.
It is time to take action and to veto the taboo.
Just took the eggs, the milk was gone as directed.
We will render them humanitarian aid, weapons.
more...
I have the education and origin-economist.
My hands are clean, and they do not have any handcuffs.
Our dictatorship does not hinder anybody to live and develop.
I own state of the civilized world will not lead.
We must once again vstrahnut people and turn to face him.
Lukashenko can not steal. Understand you-there is no place to hide.
We solved this problem in a narrow circle of limited people.
I rogues, including with Russia, will not go public.
I love to play football, hockey, but most of the play one.
I am a supporter of sincere policy. From his honesty I have been suffering for 15 years.
Those who drink every day-do not vote for me, I am so not going to be friends.
You are to me here on the disease do not complain! We have a lot of patients with the government.
Shovel in hand-digging, not digging-means today you remain hungry.
My girl in my restaurant is not pulled by the hand. Find another girl.
The uniqueness of the situation in Belarus is that nobody I do not have to.
We do not intend to hang up the chastity belt to the appropriate parts of the body.
Near the trough, whose name power, grunting all the same: the red and white.
For the sake of peace in the country I am ready to sacrifice their own minds.
I will be legitimate for a long time. I have not done, because it does not lose power soon.
I was, so to speak, collapsed philosophical thought! Now I just have to be in the center.
Humanitarian aid-it's free, it's for the people, including, for scientists, for the officials.
I promise that the New year every Belarusian on the table will be normal human eggs.
I always peratrahivayu entire Parliament and vrot know who, and who does not vrot (with emphasis to Belarusian).
I must say that we are to some extent, these have created difficulties, but today really heroically overcome them.
We do not need it: the automated system of election fraud. Do not. We will create a state.
It is not, you will elect me or not-where you get to, will choose, and if you're happy, then I'm going to work.
The standard of living, which is today the Belarusian people, for various reasons, below the knee, even lower can not be.
I went-aerobics. They showed me there because I never aerobics seen. I immediately said, "These beauties have-on skis!"
The people of Belarus took a chance and elected me President. It is extremely rare in the history and more, it may not be.
Of course, his pants, you do not run after the Komsomol as Yesenin wrote. And we ran. And not just for the Komsomol.
And, you know, I'll tell you frankly, if I had a journalist or a politician in this way began to cry, I'd ripped his tongue out of his mouth.
Everyone says, "You must give us the money!". I owed nothing to anybody. It should state you and I as a representative of that State.
And God forbid to deal with native Belarus. I agree that this is enough pieces to swallow it. God grant over five years to somehow chew.
Bribery in my politics will never happen, but principled and honest attitude: you give the state-we support you. Who would not agree-bye.
Sorry for the indiscretion, but Yeltsin was with me on the court is unable to cope. Korzhakov is unable to cope. Luzhkov has lost three times. The last time we played with Luzhkov to 5 thousand tons of butter.
If you try to dissolve us in Russia to carry out, so to speak, the Anschluss, you will receive a guerrilla war, in comparison with which Chechnya will seem children's party.
Well, the dictator, because the dictator. This, too, has a certain win. This is the last! Can you imagine? Last! That you would not have come here, where you used it more in my life to meet and talk.
Those who drink, at that normal children will not. This evil we fight as a most terrible evil. And it turns out-drunk, accidentally gave birth, and you, Lukashenko, grow this child. And there are children in our country 35 thousand.
People who speak Belarusian language can not do anything except talk to him, because in Belarusian can not express anything great. Belarusian language-the language of the poor. In the world there are only two great languages-Russian and English.
http://www.politforums.net/eng/other/1412520683.html
I am an atheist, but I am an Orthodox atheist.
You asked for rain-I gave you the rain.
As a child I grew up among animals and plants.
It is time to take action and to veto the taboo.
Just took the eggs, the milk was gone as directed.
We will render them humanitarian aid, weapons.
more...
I have the education and origin-economist.
My hands are clean, and they do not have any handcuffs.
Our dictatorship does not hinder anybody to live and develop.
I own state of the civilized world will not lead.
We must once again vstrahnut people and turn to face him.
Lukashenko can not steal. Understand you-there is no place to hide.
We solved this problem in a narrow circle of limited people.
I rogues, including with Russia, will not go public.
I love to play football, hockey, but most of the play one.
I am a supporter of sincere policy. From his honesty I have been suffering for 15 years.
Those who drink every day-do not vote for me, I am so not going to be friends.
You are to me here on the disease do not complain! We have a lot of patients with the government.
Shovel in hand-digging, not digging-means today you remain hungry.
My girl in my restaurant is not pulled by the hand. Find another girl.
The uniqueness of the situation in Belarus is that nobody I do not have to.
We do not intend to hang up the chastity belt to the appropriate parts of the body.
Near the trough, whose name power, grunting all the same: the red and white.
For the sake of peace in the country I am ready to sacrifice their own minds.
I will be legitimate for a long time. I have not done, because it does not lose power soon.
I was, so to speak, collapsed philosophical thought! Now I just have to be in the center.
Humanitarian aid-it's free, it's for the people, including, for scientists, for the officials.
I promise that the New year every Belarusian on the table will be normal human eggs.
I always peratrahivayu entire Parliament and vrot know who, and who does not vrot (with emphasis to Belarusian).
I must say that we are to some extent, these have created difficulties, but today really heroically overcome them.
We do not need it: the automated system of election fraud. Do not. We will create a state.
It is not, you will elect me or not-where you get to, will choose, and if you're happy, then I'm going to work.
The standard of living, which is today the Belarusian people, for various reasons, below the knee, even lower can not be.
I went-aerobics. They showed me there because I never aerobics seen. I immediately said, "These beauties have-on skis!"
The people of Belarus took a chance and elected me President. It is extremely rare in the history and more, it may not be.
Of course, his pants, you do not run after the Komsomol as Yesenin wrote. And we ran. And not just for the Komsomol.
And, you know, I'll tell you frankly, if I had a journalist or a politician in this way began to cry, I'd ripped his tongue out of his mouth.
Everyone says, "You must give us the money!". I owed nothing to anybody. It should state you and I as a representative of that State.
And God forbid to deal with native Belarus. I agree that this is enough pieces to swallow it. God grant over five years to somehow chew.
Bribery in my politics will never happen, but principled and honest attitude: you give the state-we support you. Who would not agree-bye.
Sorry for the indiscretion, but Yeltsin was with me on the court is unable to cope. Korzhakov is unable to cope. Luzhkov has lost three times. The last time we played with Luzhkov to 5 thousand tons of butter.
If you try to dissolve us in Russia to carry out, so to speak, the Anschluss, you will receive a guerrilla war, in comparison with which Chechnya will seem children's party.
Well, the dictator, because the dictator. This, too, has a certain win. This is the last! Can you imagine? Last! That you would not have come here, where you used it more in my life to meet and talk.
Those who drink, at that normal children will not. This evil we fight as a most terrible evil. And it turns out-drunk, accidentally gave birth, and you, Lukashenko, grow this child. And there are children in our country 35 thousand.
People who speak Belarusian language can not do anything except talk to him, because in Belarusian can not express anything great. Belarusian language-the language of the poor. In the world there are only two great languages-Russian and English.
http://www.politforums.net/eng/other/1412520683.html
http://www.politforums.net/eng/other/1412520683.html
7 November 2016 02:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
-Enough tolerating this!
-Do not know how to debate-now I'm going to have a discussion!
-Throw him out of here, scoundrel, and shot it there-in the hallway!
-The life of man is given once and live it must be in the city of Sochi.
-Baghdad-your grave, George.
-I am the poorest deputy in Russia.
-They all have children-abroad. And the children of Stalin and Khrushchev. And children Brezhnev crazy.
-A woman should stay at home, crying, and darn cook.
-Nowhere is it said that we should do during the anthem-to stand, lie down or crawl. We must love the Motherland.
-I am Saddam Hussein single dinar has not given. If given, I would take.
-We have all the political leaders went out of life mainly through death.
-And you're never here can win. All the Arab world, all Muslims of the world, all of Eastern Europe, Moscow-all against you. Moscow, Moscow does not want this war, and you are our president is clear in Russian, she said: "Do not you dare shoot at Baghdad." Better together ebanёm of Tbilisi.
-At night, our scientists slightly change the Earth's gravitational field, and your country (the US) will be under water.
-All Terrorists should inspire hatred...A normal person a black beard, hanging, will not grow!
-He is pure, young, full of strength and energy. We chose a virgin! (about Kiriyenko)
-Whose tea? Those who drank tea? Zyuganov drank? Replace.
-Yeltsin made a lot of bad things! Then he felt ashamed-and he died.
-The arrest of all those who will vote for Bogdanov!
-You and I will not take anything! We are with you in the same field to shit disgusting!
-I like kids. They are stupid, do not think. They can deceive...anything.
-How do I Maybach? From Germany.
-Arrest Prokhorov right here, I went for the handcuffs.
-I adopted you and put you in jail at all.
-I'm a leader by nature. I played Mozart.
-What are meteorites? Never anywhere nothing falls, the universe has its own laws, there is nothing ever just do not fall! That falls, people do-warmongers and provocateurs!
-Rabies uterus you all, women of the Maidan. There would be no rabies uterus, there would Maidan.
http://www.politforums.net/eng/other/1412520683.html
-Do not know how to debate-now I'm going to have a discussion!
-Throw him out of here, scoundrel, and shot it there-in the hallway!
-The life of man is given once and live it must be in the city of Sochi.
-Baghdad-your grave, George.
-I am the poorest deputy in Russia.
-They all have children-abroad. And the children of Stalin and Khrushchev. And children Brezhnev crazy.
-A woman should stay at home, crying, and darn cook.
-Nowhere is it said that we should do during the anthem-to stand, lie down or crawl. We must love the Motherland.
-I am Saddam Hussein single dinar has not given. If given, I would take.
-We have all the political leaders went out of life mainly through death.
-And you're never here can win. All the Arab world, all Muslims of the world, all of Eastern Europe, Moscow-all against you. Moscow, Moscow does not want this war, and you are our president is clear in Russian, she said: "Do not you dare shoot at Baghdad." Better together ebanёm of Tbilisi.
-At night, our scientists slightly change the Earth's gravitational field, and your country (the US) will be under water.
-All Terrorists should inspire hatred...A normal person a black beard, hanging, will not grow!
-He is pure, young, full of strength and energy. We chose a virgin! (about Kiriyenko)
-Whose tea? Those who drank tea? Zyuganov drank? Replace.
-Yeltsin made a lot of bad things! Then he felt ashamed-and he died.
-The arrest of all those who will vote for Bogdanov!
-You and I will not take anything! We are with you in the same field to shit disgusting!
-I like kids. They are stupid, do not think. They can deceive...anything.
-How do I Maybach? From Germany.
-Arrest Prokhorov right here, I went for the handcuffs.
-I adopted you and put you in jail at all.
-I'm a leader by nature. I played Mozart.
-What are meteorites? Never anywhere nothing falls, the universe has its own laws, there is nothing ever just do not fall! That falls, people do-warmongers and provocateurs!
-Rabies uterus you all, women of the Maidan. There would be no rabies uterus, there would Maidan.
http://www.politforums.net/eng/other/1412520683.html
http://www.politforums.net/eng/other/1412520683.html
7 November 2016 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
under here the images come also soon.. misse dto ost them,,
7 November 2016 02:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and for small turn away..
what we most need, informed Putin also about Green
green faith ministry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qFoimWJTroQ
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/the-pro-marijuana-holocaust-survivors-party-is-the-hottest-match-up-1.269653
what we most need, informed Putin also about Green
green faith ministry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qFoimWJTroQ
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/the-pro-marijuana-holocaust-survivors-party-is-the-hottest-match-up-1.269653
7 November 2016 02:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
MOSCOW - Most of Russia's Jews will likely vote for Prime Minister Vladimir Putin in Sunday's presidential elections, according to that country's chief rabbi.
"Maybe if there were a more serious choice of candidates they would vote for someone else. But I haven't yet met a single Jew who is voting for [Russian tycoon Mikhail] Prokhorov, for example," said Chabad Rabbi Berel Lazar, in an interview with Haaretz.
Rabbi Berl Lazar in his office at the Jewish community center in MoscowNatasha Mozgovaya
He added, "I think the fact that a new, young leader has not yet stepped forward in Russia is a problem. All these people - [Gennady] Zyuganov, [Vladimir] Zhirinovsky [presidential candidates for the Russian Communist and Liberal Democratic parties, respectively] - we've already heard their sermons before. It's the same old people."
Lazar has the delicate task of threading the needle between the government in Moscow and the Jewish community - many of whose members have been involved in protests against Putin in the past months.
Soldiers filling out ballots during a rehearsal at a polling station for servicemen and their families on a military base near Moscow on Thursday.Reuters
At a meeting two weeks ago with the country's religious figures, Putin - the leading presidential candidate - asked Lazar, "Tell me, what is a Jew supposed to do on the Sabbath?" to which the rabbi replied, "Observe Shabbat."
"And where should he be?" Putin persisted.
"In synagogue, praying," Lazar said.
"So what are all these demonstrations?" Putin asked.
'I won't tell Jews how to vote'
"When they held the first demonstration on Saturday, everyone in synagogue asked whether they should go or not," Lazar said in the interview with Haaretz. "I said, for we Jews there's no question because we have to be in synagogue, praying." Lazar's office in the Moscow Jewish Community Center, in the city's Maryina Roshcha district, contains several bookcases but not a single photograph of him with Putin.
"I told Putin we don't interfere, the choice is a personal one. We're pro-stability. We don't need the Communists, and the fact that people are taking to the streets means there are complaints, and everyone has to think about how to make life better. But I won't tell Jews how to vote," Lazar said.
The rabbi rejects the idea, widely reported, that the meeting with religious leaders was a show of support for Putin. "We only thanked him for everything he does for the community," Lazar said, going on to praise at length the responsiveness demonstrated by the prime minister and by President Dmitry Medvedev to the needs of Russia's Jewish community and their aggressive fight against anti-Semitism.
"We don't interfere in political issues - whether for good or bad that's for the experts to say," Lazar said. "But when it comes to Judaism, the attitude in the country is special, and it's not because of the United States."
With eight kosher restaurants, including an Asian noodle shop near the Kremlin and the Tel Aviv eatery, which boasts Israeli food, pictures of the eponymous city and Israeli television, Moscow has a lively Jewish community. The most recent census counted only 150,000 Jews in Russia, but Lazar says the number is misleading. "They didn't ask about religion. Those who wanted declared their religion. We believe there are a million Jews in Russia, half of them in Moscow."
Lazar does not believe Putin has a special relationship to the Jews, but said, "He recognizes that they are a kind of force. Not a political or economic force, like in America, that he needs for the election, it's more an appreciation for the Jewish brain, the young entrepreneurs here. Jackson-Vanik used to be a big deal. Now the authorities here say it's no longer important. If America decides to repeal it, then let them," Lazar said. During the Cold War, the Soviet Union's Jewish community became a bargaining chip for the rival superpowers. In 1974 the United States imposed trade restrictions on countries that limited Jewish emigration - a move aimed at the Soviet bloc. The Jackson-Vanik amendment is still in effect.
What, does Lazar believe, is Putin's personal attitude to Jews? "I think he tries to be okay with everyone," the rabbi said. "With him there's no good nation or not-good nation here, only good or not-good people. That's how it is with everything. Sometimes it's extreme, because if someone is not good then he's not good. We [Jews] have the concept of teshuva [repentance in Hebrew] - he doesn't. But if someone is good it doesn't matter to him whether he's Jewish, Caucasian [from the Caucasus], American, Israeli, Arab. It's not part of the picture with him.
"The relationship with Israel is important to him," he added. "He wouldn't break all the rules for [Israel], but good relations are important to him, because of the million Russian speakers there and the cultural connection, and also over technology and agriculture.
"I wouldn't say it's more important than relations with Italy," Lazar continued, "but even though Israel is small it is important, and you see that when Bibi [Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu] or [President Shimon] Peres come here. The memorial to World War II heroes in Israel [planned for Netanya, to commemorate the Red Army's victory over the Nazis and the release of Jews from concentration camps] is important to him."
Natasha Mozgovaya
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/most-jews-will-vote-for-putin-in-upcoming-elections-says-russia-s-chief-rabbi-1.415976
http://www.haaretz.com/most-jews-will-vote-for-putin-in-upcoming-elections-says-russia-s-chief-rabbi-1.415976
"Maybe if there were a more serious choice of candidates they would vote for someone else. But I haven't yet met a single Jew who is voting for [Russian tycoon Mikhail] Prokhorov, for example," said Chabad Rabbi Berel Lazar, in an interview with Haaretz.
Rabbi Berl Lazar in his office at the Jewish community center in MoscowNatasha Mozgovaya
He added, "I think the fact that a new, young leader has not yet stepped forward in Russia is a problem. All these people - [Gennady] Zyuganov, [Vladimir] Zhirinovsky [presidential candidates for the Russian Communist and Liberal Democratic parties, respectively] - we've already heard their sermons before. It's the same old people."
Lazar has the delicate task of threading the needle between the government in Moscow and the Jewish community - many of whose members have been involved in protests against Putin in the past months.
Soldiers filling out ballots during a rehearsal at a polling station for servicemen and their families on a military base near Moscow on Thursday.Reuters
At a meeting two weeks ago with the country's religious figures, Putin - the leading presidential candidate - asked Lazar, "Tell me, what is a Jew supposed to do on the Sabbath?" to which the rabbi replied, "Observe Shabbat."
"And where should he be?" Putin persisted.
"In synagogue, praying," Lazar said.
"So what are all these demonstrations?" Putin asked.
'I won't tell Jews how to vote'
"When they held the first demonstration on Saturday, everyone in synagogue asked whether they should go or not," Lazar said in the interview with Haaretz. "I said, for we Jews there's no question because we have to be in synagogue, praying." Lazar's office in the Moscow Jewish Community Center, in the city's Maryina Roshcha district, contains several bookcases but not a single photograph of him with Putin.
"I told Putin we don't interfere, the choice is a personal one. We're pro-stability. We don't need the Communists, and the fact that people are taking to the streets means there are complaints, and everyone has to think about how to make life better. But I won't tell Jews how to vote," Lazar said.
The rabbi rejects the idea, widely reported, that the meeting with religious leaders was a show of support for Putin. "We only thanked him for everything he does for the community," Lazar said, going on to praise at length the responsiveness demonstrated by the prime minister and by President Dmitry Medvedev to the needs of Russia's Jewish community and their aggressive fight against anti-Semitism.
"We don't interfere in political issues - whether for good or bad that's for the experts to say," Lazar said. "But when it comes to Judaism, the attitude in the country is special, and it's not because of the United States."
With eight kosher restaurants, including an Asian noodle shop near the Kremlin and the Tel Aviv eatery, which boasts Israeli food, pictures of the eponymous city and Israeli television, Moscow has a lively Jewish community. The most recent census counted only 150,000 Jews in Russia, but Lazar says the number is misleading. "They didn't ask about religion. Those who wanted declared their religion. We believe there are a million Jews in Russia, half of them in Moscow."
Lazar does not believe Putin has a special relationship to the Jews, but said, "He recognizes that they are a kind of force. Not a political or economic force, like in America, that he needs for the election, it's more an appreciation for the Jewish brain, the young entrepreneurs here. Jackson-Vanik used to be a big deal. Now the authorities here say it's no longer important. If America decides to repeal it, then let them," Lazar said. During the Cold War, the Soviet Union's Jewish community became a bargaining chip for the rival superpowers. In 1974 the United States imposed trade restrictions on countries that limited Jewish emigration - a move aimed at the Soviet bloc. The Jackson-Vanik amendment is still in effect.
What, does Lazar believe, is Putin's personal attitude to Jews? "I think he tries to be okay with everyone," the rabbi said. "With him there's no good nation or not-good nation here, only good or not-good people. That's how it is with everything. Sometimes it's extreme, because if someone is not good then he's not good. We [Jews] have the concept of teshuva [repentance in Hebrew] - he doesn't. But if someone is good it doesn't matter to him whether he's Jewish, Caucasian [from the Caucasus], American, Israeli, Arab. It's not part of the picture with him.
"The relationship with Israel is important to him," he added. "He wouldn't break all the rules for [Israel], but good relations are important to him, because of the million Russian speakers there and the cultural connection, and also over technology and agriculture.
"I wouldn't say it's more important than relations with Italy," Lazar continued, "but even though Israel is small it is important, and you see that when Bibi [Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu] or [President Shimon] Peres come here. The memorial to World War II heroes in Israel [planned for Netanya, to commemorate the Red Army's victory over the Nazis and the release of Jews from concentration camps] is important to him."
Natasha Mozgovaya
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/most-jews-will-vote-for-putin-in-upcoming-elections-says-russia-s-chief-rabbi-1.415976
http://www.haaretz.com/most-jews-will-vote-for-putin-in-upcoming-elections-says-russia-s-chief-rabbi-1.415976
http://www.haaretz.com/most-jews-will-vote-for-putin-in-upcoming-elections-says-russia-s-chief-rabbi-1.415976
7 November 2016 02:32
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Some 9,295 Russian Israelis - and 45 Russian citizens in the Palestinian Authority - nearly 10 percent of the 95,000 eligible voters here cast absentee ballots in the recent Russian elections, with 41 percent of them voting for the liberal United of Right Forces (URF) and only 15.5 percent voting for Russian President Vladimir Putin's United Russia Party.
The low turnout this year was nonetheless twice last year's vote, ironically largely because Putin campaigned so intensively among Russian expatriates worldwide, but especially in Israel.
The URF and Yabloko, the other liberal party, which won about a quarter of the Israeli-Russian vote, failed to cross the 5 percent threshold to win a large bloc of seats in the Duma, getting only three seats apiece. Three percent voted for the Communists.
The Russian party affiliated with Israel's own right-wing National Union bloc, which was founded by Russian immigrant Avigdor Lieberman, won only 2.6 percent of the Israeli Russians and Vladimir Zhirinovsky's nationalists won 1.6 percent.
The Israeli voters' support for the Russian liberals was not surprising. Meretz MK Roman Bronfman, the most liberal of the Israeli-Russians elected to the Knesset in Israel, said that "it was important for the the liberal progressive forces in Russia to learn the lesson of how dangerous it is when there is a split between parties with identical values and similar ideas. Now it will be up to the constructivists and President Putin to preserve the constitutional rights of Russian citizens."
In Russia, Putin's United Russia won 37 percent, the Communist Party received only 12.7 percent of the vote, nearly half its showing in 1999, when it won the largest bloc of seats.
The Communist Party still managed to eke out a victory over the Liberal Democratic Party, led by Zhirinovsky, which received 11.6 percent of the vote. Rodina, a new party created only months before the election, received 9 percent.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israeli-russians-prefer-liberals-in-homeland-election-1.108091
http://www.haaretz.com/israeli-russians-prefer-liberals-in-homeland-election-1.108091
The low turnout this year was nonetheless twice last year's vote, ironically largely because Putin campaigned so intensively among Russian expatriates worldwide, but especially in Israel.
The URF and Yabloko, the other liberal party, which won about a quarter of the Israeli-Russian vote, failed to cross the 5 percent threshold to win a large bloc of seats in the Duma, getting only three seats apiece. Three percent voted for the Communists.
The Russian party affiliated with Israel's own right-wing National Union bloc, which was founded by Russian immigrant Avigdor Lieberman, won only 2.6 percent of the Israeli Russians and Vladimir Zhirinovsky's nationalists won 1.6 percent.
The Israeli voters' support for the Russian liberals was not surprising. Meretz MK Roman Bronfman, the most liberal of the Israeli-Russians elected to the Knesset in Israel, said that "it was important for the the liberal progressive forces in Russia to learn the lesson of how dangerous it is when there is a split between parties with identical values and similar ideas. Now it will be up to the constructivists and President Putin to preserve the constitutional rights of Russian citizens."
In Russia, Putin's United Russia won 37 percent, the Communist Party received only 12.7 percent of the vote, nearly half its showing in 1999, when it won the largest bloc of seats.
The Communist Party still managed to eke out a victory over the Liberal Democratic Party, led by Zhirinovsky, which received 11.6 percent of the vote. Rodina, a new party created only months before the election, received 9 percent.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israeli-russians-prefer-liberals-in-homeland-election-1.108091
http://www.haaretz.com/israeli-russians-prefer-liberals-in-homeland-election-1.108091
http://www.haaretz.com/israeli-russians-prefer-liberals-in-homeland-election-1.108091
7 November 2016 02:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"I'm not a psychiatrist, and I can't help them if they're crazy," said Russia's co-chief rabbi, Berel Lazar, in response. "The worst possibility is that they're sane and are making a cynical move for electoral purposes."
A blood libel accusing Jews of murdering Christians for ritual purposes - a concept that disappeared for years from Russia's anti-Semitic lexicon - made a comeback this week as an important crux in a remarkably fierce anti-Semitic diatribe that was published Sunday in the Russian newspaper Rus-pravoslavnaya.
The fundamentalist Pravoslavic paper, which defines itself as "patriotic," ran a letter asking the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Ustinov, to open an investigation against all Jewish organizations throughout the country on suspicion of spreading incitement and provoking ethnic strife.
The letter calls for an end to government subsidies for these groups. The lengthy document was signed by 500 people, including newspaper editors, academics and intellectuals. These signatories were joined by 19 nationalist members of the lower parliament, the State Duma, from the nationalist Rodina (homeland) party, Vladimir Zhirinovsky's Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR), and the Russian Communist Party.
Even though the story was picked up by radio stations and leading Internet sites in Russian, there has been no official condemnation.
The libelous document is divided into chapters with such titles as "The Morality of Jewish Fascism," "Provocateurs and People Haters" and "Jewish Aggression as an Expression of Devilry."
"I'm not a psychiatrist, and I can't help them if they're crazy," said Russia's co-chief rabbi, Berel Lazar, in response. "The worst possibility is that they're sane and are making a cynical move for electoral purposes."
The blood libel, described here as a ritual murder of Christian children that has already been proved in the courts, is only one thrust of the letter, which is thousands of words long and weaves a convoluted web between classic religious anti-Semitism and current anti-Israeli sentiment.
The writers see a direct line between the Shulhan Aruch (Code of Jewish Law) and other halakhic sources they quote profusely, and the transfer program espoused by Yisrael Beitenu chairman Avigdor Lieberman.
The letter also indirectly criticizes President Putin and the state courts for their policy of trying anyone charged with anti-Semitism and incitement without verifying the claims' veracity. Those charged spoke the truth, the letter maintains, and those accused of anti-Semitism were nothing but patriots.
The writers make use of quotations from traditional Jewish sources and current Israeli and Jewish publications. In the chapter on the Jewish oligarchs' devastating control of Russia's economy and politics, the letter quotes Jewish writers from Israel and the United States, along with excerpts from interviews with the oligarchs themselves.
Minister of Diaspora Affairs Natan Sharansky expressed shock yesterday at the fierceness of the anti-Semitic letter, saying that although the signatories represent a slim segment of Russian society, latent anti-Semitism is clearly a major danger there.
Sharansky quoted Putin saying that anti-Semitism is not only a danger to his country's Jewish population, but a threat to the stability of his regime.
According to Sharansky, even though popular anti-Semitism is entrenched in Russian culture, Putin viewed the Jews as a bridge in new relations with the West, and granted freedom to Jewish communities there.
"However, Putin, for reasons of his own, precisely now needs to bolster Russia's national pride," Sharansky said. "The problem is that the moment you start playing with nationalist slogans, they immediately link up with the most primitive prejudice."
Sharansky called on Putin and the Russian parliament to treat the letter and its authors harshly.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/blood-libel-makes-comeback-in-russia-1.148147
http://www.haaretz.com/blood-libel-makes-comeback-in-russia-1.148147
A blood libel accusing Jews of murdering Christians for ritual purposes - a concept that disappeared for years from Russia's anti-Semitic lexicon - made a comeback this week as an important crux in a remarkably fierce anti-Semitic diatribe that was published Sunday in the Russian newspaper Rus-pravoslavnaya.
The fundamentalist Pravoslavic paper, which defines itself as "patriotic," ran a letter asking the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Ustinov, to open an investigation against all Jewish organizations throughout the country on suspicion of spreading incitement and provoking ethnic strife.
The letter calls for an end to government subsidies for these groups. The lengthy document was signed by 500 people, including newspaper editors, academics and intellectuals. These signatories were joined by 19 nationalist members of the lower parliament, the State Duma, from the nationalist Rodina (homeland) party, Vladimir Zhirinovsky's Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR), and the Russian Communist Party.
Even though the story was picked up by radio stations and leading Internet sites in Russian, there has been no official condemnation.
The libelous document is divided into chapters with such titles as "The Morality of Jewish Fascism," "Provocateurs and People Haters" and "Jewish Aggression as an Expression of Devilry."
"I'm not a psychiatrist, and I can't help them if they're crazy," said Russia's co-chief rabbi, Berel Lazar, in response. "The worst possibility is that they're sane and are making a cynical move for electoral purposes."
The blood libel, described here as a ritual murder of Christian children that has already been proved in the courts, is only one thrust of the letter, which is thousands of words long and weaves a convoluted web between classic religious anti-Semitism and current anti-Israeli sentiment.
The writers see a direct line between the Shulhan Aruch (Code of Jewish Law) and other halakhic sources they quote profusely, and the transfer program espoused by Yisrael Beitenu chairman Avigdor Lieberman.
The letter also indirectly criticizes President Putin and the state courts for their policy of trying anyone charged with anti-Semitism and incitement without verifying the claims' veracity. Those charged spoke the truth, the letter maintains, and those accused of anti-Semitism were nothing but patriots.
The writers make use of quotations from traditional Jewish sources and current Israeli and Jewish publications. In the chapter on the Jewish oligarchs' devastating control of Russia's economy and politics, the letter quotes Jewish writers from Israel and the United States, along with excerpts from interviews with the oligarchs themselves.
Minister of Diaspora Affairs Natan Sharansky expressed shock yesterday at the fierceness of the anti-Semitic letter, saying that although the signatories represent a slim segment of Russian society, latent anti-Semitism is clearly a major danger there.
Sharansky quoted Putin saying that anti-Semitism is not only a danger to his country's Jewish population, but a threat to the stability of his regime.
According to Sharansky, even though popular anti-Semitism is entrenched in Russian culture, Putin viewed the Jews as a bridge in new relations with the West, and granted freedom to Jewish communities there.
"However, Putin, for reasons of his own, precisely now needs to bolster Russia's national pride," Sharansky said. "The problem is that the moment you start playing with nationalist slogans, they immediately link up with the most primitive prejudice."
Sharansky called on Putin and the Russian parliament to treat the letter and its authors harshly.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/blood-libel-makes-comeback-in-russia-1.148147
http://www.haaretz.com/blood-libel-makes-comeback-in-russia-1.148147
http://www.haaretz.com/blood-libel-makes-comeback-in-russia-1.148147
7 November 2016 02:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
All 19 Russian parliament members who signed a letter asking the prosecutor general of the Russian Federation to investigate Jewish organizations on suspicion of spreading incitement and provoking ethnic strife withdrew their support for the letter yesterday, sources in Russia said.
The 19 members of the lower house, the State Duma, from the nationalist Rodina (Homeland) party, Vladimir Zhirinovsky's Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR) and the Russian Communist Party, came under attack yesterday for signing the letter. Some 450 Russian academics and public figures also signed the letter.
Russia's co-chief rabbi, Berl Lazar, said the letter had caused outrage among the country's 1 million Jews and raised questions over the lessons learned from the Holocaust.
"Today is a test," Lazar said. "People are trying to test how society will react 60 years later. More than half a century later, when such statements come out openly, this really shows that the famous line `Never again' has to be taught constantly and fought for."
The letter accused Jews of carrying out the majority of anti-Semitic actions, "with a goal of provocation."
The General Prosecutor's Office in Moscow said yesterday that the deputies had retracted their request for a probe. No explanation was immediately forthcoming from the deputies. Earlier they denied the letter was anti-Semitic.
"There is nothing anti-Semitic in our address, we only ask the prosecutor general to give a judicial evaluation of the facts we have presented," Alexander Krutov, a Rodina party deputy in the Duma, told Izvestia newspaper.
The Kremlin had no immediate comment on the issue, but Russia's Foreign Ministry denounced the document, saying it "contained openly anti-Semitic views."
"The statement in question has nothing in common with the official position of the Russian leadership, which decisively spurns any display of ethnic tension and xenophobia, including anti-Semitism," it said in a statement.
"It's in the hands of the government to bring a case against them [the deputies] and not allow them to serve in the Duma," Lazar said. "Any kind of anti-Semitic propaganda by government officials should be outlawed, and these people should be brought to justice. Today they are trying to outlaw Jewish organizations, tomorrow they will try and do the same with any religion, any kind of national idea, and this is dangerous."
The Israel Embassy in Moscow said the document used the same arguments the Nazis had. "It is a classic example of anti-Semitism," it said in a statement. "The theories in the appeal were used by the Nazi regime as a basis for the mass destruction of the Jews during World War II."
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/russian-lawmakers-withdraw-support-for-blood-libel-letter-1.148233
http://www.haaretz.com/russian-lawmakers-withdraw-support-for-blood-libel-letter-1.148233
The 19 members of the lower house, the State Duma, from the nationalist Rodina (Homeland) party, Vladimir Zhirinovsky's Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR) and the Russian Communist Party, came under attack yesterday for signing the letter. Some 450 Russian academics and public figures also signed the letter.
Russia's co-chief rabbi, Berl Lazar, said the letter had caused outrage among the country's 1 million Jews and raised questions over the lessons learned from the Holocaust.
"Today is a test," Lazar said. "People are trying to test how society will react 60 years later. More than half a century later, when such statements come out openly, this really shows that the famous line `Never again' has to be taught constantly and fought for."
The letter accused Jews of carrying out the majority of anti-Semitic actions, "with a goal of provocation."
The General Prosecutor's Office in Moscow said yesterday that the deputies had retracted their request for a probe. No explanation was immediately forthcoming from the deputies. Earlier they denied the letter was anti-Semitic.
"There is nothing anti-Semitic in our address, we only ask the prosecutor general to give a judicial evaluation of the facts we have presented," Alexander Krutov, a Rodina party deputy in the Duma, told Izvestia newspaper.
The Kremlin had no immediate comment on the issue, but Russia's Foreign Ministry denounced the document, saying it "contained openly anti-Semitic views."
"The statement in question has nothing in common with the official position of the Russian leadership, which decisively spurns any display of ethnic tension and xenophobia, including anti-Semitism," it said in a statement.
"It's in the hands of the government to bring a case against them [the deputies] and not allow them to serve in the Duma," Lazar said. "Any kind of anti-Semitic propaganda by government officials should be outlawed, and these people should be brought to justice. Today they are trying to outlaw Jewish organizations, tomorrow they will try and do the same with any religion, any kind of national idea, and this is dangerous."
The Israel Embassy in Moscow said the document used the same arguments the Nazis had. "It is a classic example of anti-Semitism," it said in a statement. "The theories in the appeal were used by the Nazi regime as a basis for the mass destruction of the Jews during World War II."
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/russian-lawmakers-withdraw-support-for-blood-libel-letter-1.148233
http://www.haaretz.com/russian-lawmakers-withdraw-support-for-blood-libel-letter-1.148233
http://www.haaretz.com/russian-lawmakers-withdraw-support-for-blood-libel-letter-1.148233
7 November 2016 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Russian Chief Rabbi Berel Lazar met this week with Vladimir Zhirinovsky and Dmitri Rogozin, the heads of two Russian nationalist parties that disseminate anti-Semitic propaganda.
The meetings outraged the Israeli Foreign Ministry. "Through these meetings, the chief rabbi confers legitimacy on people and parties known for clearly anti-Semitic positions," said one ministry official.
Following the meeting, a statement on the official Web site of the Federation of Jewish Communities of the CIS, which Lazar heads, declared: "There is common ground. Both sides [the Jews and the nationalist anti-Semites - Y.M.] adopt patriotic positions."
// true that:D
The federation is considered the strongest Jewish organization in Russia. It is affiliated with Israeli businessman Lev Leviev, who donates millions of dollars to it every year.
Officially, the Foreign Ministry declined to comment on the meeting. "The rabbi holds no official Israeli government position, so he is not subordinate to the government's policy," said a ministry spokesman.
Off the record, however, ministry officials were furious. "The rabbi's obsequious meetings with individuals tainted by blatant anti-Semitism and Russian nationalism arouses anger and disgust," said one. "[The meetings] grant them legitimacy and undermine the Israeli government's policy of rejecting them and avoiding contact with them."
A spokesman for Lazar, who was in New York yesterday, said: "The Foreign Ministry forgets that the rabbi is committed to the well-being of Jews in Russia. The meetings were public and demonstrate the status of the Jews to all the supporters of these parties; moreover, the two leaders with whom he met undertook not to persist with their [anti-Semitic] declarations."
Responding to the report, an associate of Leviev commented that the businessman "doesn't know everything the rabbi does and the rabbi needs no advice from him. Berel Lazar is chief rabbi of Russia and he knows what he is doing. Lazar knows what is beneficial and how to take care of Russia's Jewish community better than any Foreign Ministry official."
During the meeting, Lazar reportedly told Zhirinovsky and Rogozin that many Russian Jews who had immigrated to Israel were now returning, and that this year, more Russian Jews had left Israel than had moved to it.
Zhirinovsky, who serves as deputy speaker of the Russian parliament and leader of the Liberal Democratic Party, expressed satisfaction with this, saying: "The Jews are talented people and it's good that they are returning because they can contribute to Russia's development."
Both Zhirinovsky and other members of his party have frequently expressed anti-Semitic views. And Rogozin heads the Rodina (Motherland) Party, several of whose members signed a petition by 500 public figures urging that the Jews be expelled from Russia. The petition also urged the Russian prosecution to ban dissemination of the Shulchan Aruch, a classic Jewish legal text, claiming that it incites to racism. The prosecution indeed began an investigation into the book, but then closed it under pressure from Israel and Jewish organizations.
Due to such incidents, Israel has long boycotted Zhirinovsky, Rogozin and their parties. The Foreign Ministry has also tried to persuade other countries and organizations to join this boycott. The ministry's intervention, for instance, led to Rodina being denied membership in the Socialist International.
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The meetings outraged the Israeli Foreign Ministry. "Through these meetings, the chief rabbi confers legitimacy on people and parties known for clearly anti-Semitic positions," said one ministry official.
Following the meeting, a statement on the official Web site of the Federation of Jewish Communities of the CIS, which Lazar heads, declared: "There is common ground. Both sides [the Jews and the nationalist anti-Semites - Y.M.] adopt patriotic positions."
// true that:D
The federation is considered the strongest Jewish organization in Russia. It is affiliated with Israeli businessman Lev Leviev, who donates millions of dollars to it every year.
Officially, the Foreign Ministry declined to comment on the meeting. "The rabbi holds no official Israeli government position, so he is not subordinate to the government's policy," said a ministry spokesman.
Off the record, however, ministry officials were furious. "The rabbi's obsequious meetings with individuals tainted by blatant anti-Semitism and Russian nationalism arouses anger and disgust," said one. "[The meetings] grant them legitimacy and undermine the Israeli government's policy of rejecting them and avoiding contact with them."
A spokesman for Lazar, who was in New York yesterday, said: "The Foreign Ministry forgets that the rabbi is committed to the well-being of Jews in Russia. The meetings were public and demonstrate the status of the Jews to all the supporters of these parties; moreover, the two leaders with whom he met undertook not to persist with their [anti-Semitic] declarations."
Responding to the report, an associate of Leviev commented that the businessman "doesn't know everything the rabbi does and the rabbi needs no advice from him. Berel Lazar is chief rabbi of Russia and he knows what he is doing. Lazar knows what is beneficial and how to take care of Russia's Jewish community better than any Foreign Ministry official."
During the meeting, Lazar reportedly told Zhirinovsky and Rogozin that many Russian Jews who had immigrated to Israel were now returning, and that this year, more Russian Jews had left Israel than had moved to it.
Zhirinovsky, who serves as deputy speaker of the Russian parliament and leader of the Liberal Democratic Party, expressed satisfaction with this, saying: "The Jews are talented people and it's good that they are returning because they can contribute to Russia's development."
Both Zhirinovsky and other members of his party have frequently expressed anti-Semitic views. And Rogozin heads the Rodina (Motherland) Party, several of whose members signed a petition by 500 public figures urging that the Jews be expelled from Russia. The petition also urged the Russian prosecution to ban dissemination of the Shulchan Aruch, a classic Jewish legal text, claiming that it incites to racism. The prosecution indeed began an investigation into the book, but then closed it under pressure from Israel and Jewish organizations.
Due to such incidents, Israel has long boycotted Zhirinovsky, Rogozin and their parties. The Foreign Ministry has also tried to persuade other countries and organizations to join this boycott. The ministry's intervention, for instance, led to Rodina being denied membership in the Socialist International.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/russia-s-chief-rabbi-meets-with-anti-semitic-nationalists-1.174942
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7 November 2016 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" When I ask him about relations between Israel and Russia, that evolved to cancellation of the visa regime, despite Israeli objections to Moscow welcoming Hamas and Hizballah delegations, selling arms to Syria and objecting tightening sanctions against Iran. Berezovsky sounds slightly irritated.
“I don’t see any sign that relations warm; only cold calculated diplomacy. I am not in a position to give Israeli leaders dealing with the complicated issue of Iran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons any advice. I understand that what is driving the Israeli leadership is Israeli national interests, and I have no right to provide an assessments of how Israel should steer its relations with Russia, even with the criminal regime that exists there today.”
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“I don’t see any sign that relations warm; only cold calculated diplomacy. I am not in a position to give Israeli leaders dealing with the complicated issue of Iran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons any advice. I understand that what is driving the Israeli leadership is Israeli national interests, and I have no right to provide an assessments of how Israel should steer its relations with Russia, even with the criminal regime that exists there today.”
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7 November 2016 02:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Are you afraid of Putin?
“I am worried because Litvinenko's death is real, and three attempts have been made on my life in London. If I were afraid, I obviously wouldn’t give this interview," he said.
A few years ago, Berezovsky was a lone voice calling for another Russian revolution. Today, he finds encouragement from mass opposition protests and from other voices that have joined the call for change.
“This is not the first autocratic regime in the history of mankind, and dictators have always met their end in the same way,” he predicted. “Either they end up like Augusto Pinochet, or they are hanged. I am certain that this will happen in the case of Putin’s regime, because it is already clear that he has chosen to violently hold on to power. He had raped the people by ignoring the constitution, and thus the people have the right to respond violently."
Berezovsky doesn’t have many kind words to say about the other Russian presidential hopefuls, or about the Russian opposition in general for that matter. The billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov, who has been accusing two other of his opponents - Vladimir Zhirinovsky and the communist Gennady Zyuganov - of being on the Kremlin's payroll, himself is termed by many from the opposition as the “Kremlin’s project."
“I know him,” said Berezovsky of Prokhorov. “I always thought good things about him. He was always a reasonable and fair. I don’t know why he needs to take part in this. I also don’t know that he is doing it of his own free will. People are blackmailed. He had more reasons than others to be an independent, so I don’t understand why he got into it, why he is ruining himself."
"Russia moving backwards"
Berezovsky thinks all the candidates are “Kremlin projects.” According to him, “without them, these elections wouldn’t have taken place. Putin isn’t legitimate and doesn’t have the right to run for a third term. It is unconstitutional, and by taking part in this illegal election, they themselves are criminals."
He says he tried to help the opposition, but admits its situation is "very difficult, but not desperate".
"There are hundreds of thousands of people going out to protest, but the leading figures don’t have an ideology, giving the communist Zyuganov somewhat of an advantage in that respect. Zyuganov has an ideology, even if it’s one I utterly reject."
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/exiled-russian-oligarch-berezovsky-putin-will-end-up-like-ghadafi-1.414928
“I am worried because Litvinenko's death is real, and three attempts have been made on my life in London. If I were afraid, I obviously wouldn’t give this interview," he said.
A few years ago, Berezovsky was a lone voice calling for another Russian revolution. Today, he finds encouragement from mass opposition protests and from other voices that have joined the call for change.
“This is not the first autocratic regime in the history of mankind, and dictators have always met their end in the same way,” he predicted. “Either they end up like Augusto Pinochet, or they are hanged. I am certain that this will happen in the case of Putin’s regime, because it is already clear that he has chosen to violently hold on to power. He had raped the people by ignoring the constitution, and thus the people have the right to respond violently."
Berezovsky doesn’t have many kind words to say about the other Russian presidential hopefuls, or about the Russian opposition in general for that matter. The billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov, who has been accusing two other of his opponents - Vladimir Zhirinovsky and the communist Gennady Zyuganov - of being on the Kremlin's payroll, himself is termed by many from the opposition as the “Kremlin’s project."
“I know him,” said Berezovsky of Prokhorov. “I always thought good things about him. He was always a reasonable and fair. I don’t know why he needs to take part in this. I also don’t know that he is doing it of his own free will. People are blackmailed. He had more reasons than others to be an independent, so I don’t understand why he got into it, why he is ruining himself."
"Russia moving backwards"
Berezovsky thinks all the candidates are “Kremlin projects.” According to him, “without them, these elections wouldn’t have taken place. Putin isn’t legitimate and doesn’t have the right to run for a third term. It is unconstitutional, and by taking part in this illegal election, they themselves are criminals."
He says he tried to help the opposition, but admits its situation is "very difficult, but not desperate".
"There are hundreds of thousands of people going out to protest, but the leading figures don’t have an ideology, giving the communist Zyuganov somewhat of an advantage in that respect. Zyuganov has an ideology, even if it’s one I utterly reject."
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http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/exiled-russian-oligarch-berezovsky-putin-will-end-up-like-ghadafi-1.414928
7 November 2016 02:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Expra part that is off the web now.
I mean he is pro communists who's one of the maste rplan was to eliminate Hebrows and shamanic people and same time pro jewish who is matriarchial and same time he is against women (telling all man hate women).. he talks like he would be against bad values but talks dirty and supports trump who is master example of not respecting women or not having high values, that matter most.. interesting..
https://web.archive.org/web/20060720023508/http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/732932.html
I mean he is pro communists who's one of the maste rplan was to eliminate Hebrows and shamanic people and same time pro jewish who is matriarchial and same time he is against women (telling all man hate women).. he talks like he would be against bad values but talks dirty and supports trump who is master example of not respecting women or not having high values, that matter most.. interesting..
https://web.archive.org/web/20060720023508/http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/732932.html
7 November 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on Haaretz.com's link.
Trump is last Roman-Empire anti-matriarchy weapon, but in God's eye one is like trump for Clinton's .. but for VVZH and Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia he is the president Russia promised to elect in USA.
Take look some of my FB Wall page, on my profile few last posts about Trump and Zhirinovsky, if You interested about it a bit
https://web.archive.org/web/20060720023508/http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/732932.html
Take look some of my FB Wall page, on my profile few last posts about Trump and Zhirinovsky, if You interested about it a bit
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7 November 2016 02:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Victory for Trump would be a gift to humanity. But if Hillary Clinton wins it will be the last U.S. president ever."
"Putin has also praised Trump as "very talented", while the Republican candidate has said the Kremlin boss is a better leader than U.S. President Barack Obama. Clinton has accused Trump of being too cosy with Putin and questioned his business interests in Russia."
Zhirinovsky, who said he met Trump in New York in 2002, revels in his similarities with the American businessman - they are the same age, favour coarse, sometimes misogynistic language and boast about putting their own country first. Zhirinovsky has even said he wants a DNA test to see if he is related to Trump.
But unlike Trump, a billionaire real estate developer who casts himself as the anti-establishment candidate in the U.S. presidential race with no past political experience, Zhirinovsky is a consummate political insider who has sat in the Duma for more than two decades.
Putin has also praised Trump as "very talented", while the Republican candidate has said the Kremlin boss is a better leader than U.S. President Barack Obama. Clinton has accused Trump of being too cosy with Putin and questioned his business interests in Russia.
In other comments that have delighted Moscow, Trump has questioned the value of NATO for Washington, has spoken ambiguously about Russia's 2014 annexation of Ukraine's Crimea and suggested that the United States under his leadership would adopt a more isolationist foreign policy.
"He (Trump) won't care about Syria, Libya and Iraq and why an earth should America interfere in these countries?
And Ukraine. Who needs Ukraine?," said Zhirinovsky, who once counted himself a friend of Iraq's Saddam Hussein and Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi and whose deaths he still laments.
"Trump will have a brilliant chance to make relations more peaceful ... He's the only one who can do this," he said, adding that Trump could even win a Nobel peace prize.
CLINTON "CRAVES POWER"
In contrast, Zhirinovsky described Clinton as "an evil mother-in law" and said her record as secretary of state under Obama in 2009-2013 showed she was unfit to lead her country.
"She craves power. Her view is that Hillary is the most important person on the planet, that America is an exceptional country, as Barack Obama said," said Zhirinovsky. "That's dangerous. She could start a nuclear war."
In typically chauvinistic remarks, Zhirinovsky said Clinton's gender should also bar her from the presidency.
"Most Americans should choose Trump because men have been leading for millions of year. You can't take the risk of having one of the richest, most powerful countries led by a woman president," he said.
Asked about lewd comments Trump made about women in 2005 that have harmed his campaign, Zhirinovsky defended the Republican: "Men all round the world sometimes say such things that are just for their comrades. We must only consider his business (and political) qualities."
Though Putin and Trump have never met, Zhirinovsky said he believed they could establish a close working relationship, adding: "Victory for Trump would be a gift to humanity. But if Hillary Clinton wins it will be the last U.S. president ever."
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/1.747229
// This is also good way to prove one wrong...
But as they promise to choose their own president in USA ...
World Vision USA
"Putin has also praised Trump as "very talented", while the Republican candidate has said the Kremlin boss is a better leader than U.S. President Barack Obama. Clinton has accused Trump of being too cosy with Putin and questioned his business interests in Russia."
Zhirinovsky, who said he met Trump in New York in 2002, revels in his similarities with the American businessman - they are the same age, favour coarse, sometimes misogynistic language and boast about putting their own country first. Zhirinovsky has even said he wants a DNA test to see if he is related to Trump.
But unlike Trump, a billionaire real estate developer who casts himself as the anti-establishment candidate in the U.S. presidential race with no past political experience, Zhirinovsky is a consummate political insider who has sat in the Duma for more than two decades.
Putin has also praised Trump as "very talented", while the Republican candidate has said the Kremlin boss is a better leader than U.S. President Barack Obama. Clinton has accused Trump of being too cosy with Putin and questioned his business interests in Russia.
In other comments that have delighted Moscow, Trump has questioned the value of NATO for Washington, has spoken ambiguously about Russia's 2014 annexation of Ukraine's Crimea and suggested that the United States under his leadership would adopt a more isolationist foreign policy.
"He (Trump) won't care about Syria, Libya and Iraq and why an earth should America interfere in these countries?
And Ukraine. Who needs Ukraine?," said Zhirinovsky, who once counted himself a friend of Iraq's Saddam Hussein and Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi and whose deaths he still laments.
"Trump will have a brilliant chance to make relations more peaceful ... He's the only one who can do this," he said, adding that Trump could even win a Nobel peace prize.
CLINTON "CRAVES POWER"
In contrast, Zhirinovsky described Clinton as "an evil mother-in law" and said her record as secretary of state under Obama in 2009-2013 showed she was unfit to lead her country.
"She craves power. Her view is that Hillary is the most important person on the planet, that America is an exceptional country, as Barack Obama said," said Zhirinovsky. "That's dangerous. She could start a nuclear war."
In typically chauvinistic remarks, Zhirinovsky said Clinton's gender should also bar her from the presidency.
"Most Americans should choose Trump because men have been leading for millions of year. You can't take the risk of having one of the richest, most powerful countries led by a woman president," he said.
Asked about lewd comments Trump made about women in 2005 that have harmed his campaign, Zhirinovsky defended the Republican: "Men all round the world sometimes say such things that are just for their comrades. We must only consider his business (and political) qualities."
Though Putin and Trump have never met, Zhirinovsky said he believed they could establish a close working relationship, adding: "Victory for Trump would be a gift to humanity. But if Hillary Clinton wins it will be the last U.S. president ever."
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/1.747229
// This is also good way to prove one wrong...
But as they promise to choose their own president in USA ...
World Vision USA
http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/1.747229
7 November 2016 01:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Americans voting for a president on Nov. 8 must realise that they are voting for peace on Planet Earth if they vote for Trump. But if they vote for Hillary it's war. It will be a short movie. There will be Hiroshimas and Nagasakis everywhere."
Americans should vote for Donald Trump as president next month or risk being dragged into a nuclear war, according to a Russian ultra-nationalist ally of President Vladimir Putin who likes to compare himself to the U.S. Republican candidate.
Vladimir Zhirinovsky, a flamboyant veteran lawmaker known for his fiery rhetoric, told Reuters in an interview that Trump was the only person able to de-escalate dangerous tensions between Moscow and Washington.
By contrast, Trump's Democratic rival Hillary Clinton could spark World War Three, said Zhirinovsky, who received a top state award from Putin after his pro-Kremlin Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR) came third in Russia's parliamentary election last month.
Many Russians regard Zhirinovsky as a clownish figure who makes outspoken statements to grab attention but he is also widely viewed as a faithful servant of Kremlin policy, sometimes used to float radical opinions to test public reaction.
"Relations between Russia and the United States can't get any worse. The only way they can get worse is if a war starts," said Zhirinovsky, speaking in his huge office on the 10th floor of Russia's State Duma, or lower house of parliament.
Zhirinovsky's comments coincide with deep disagreements between Washington and Moscow over Syria and Ukraine and after the White House last week accused Russia of a campaign of cyber attacks against Democratic Party organisations.
Even as WikiLeaks released another trove of internal documents from Clinton’s campaign on Wednesday, Putin insisted his country was not involved in an effort to influence the U.S. presidential election.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/1.747229
http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/1.747229
Americans should vote for Donald Trump as president next month or risk being dragged into a nuclear war, according to a Russian ultra-nationalist ally of President Vladimir Putin who likes to compare himself to the U.S. Republican candidate.
Vladimir Zhirinovsky, a flamboyant veteran lawmaker known for his fiery rhetoric, told Reuters in an interview that Trump was the only person able to de-escalate dangerous tensions between Moscow and Washington.
By contrast, Trump's Democratic rival Hillary Clinton could spark World War Three, said Zhirinovsky, who received a top state award from Putin after his pro-Kremlin Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR) came third in Russia's parliamentary election last month.
Many Russians regard Zhirinovsky as a clownish figure who makes outspoken statements to grab attention but he is also widely viewed as a faithful servant of Kremlin policy, sometimes used to float radical opinions to test public reaction.
"Relations between Russia and the United States can't get any worse. The only way they can get worse is if a war starts," said Zhirinovsky, speaking in his huge office on the 10th floor of Russia's State Duma, or lower house of parliament.
Zhirinovsky's comments coincide with deep disagreements between Washington and Moscow over Syria and Ukraine and after the White House last week accused Russia of a campaign of cyber attacks against Democratic Party organisations.
Even as WikiLeaks released another trove of internal documents from Clinton’s campaign on Wednesday, Putin insisted his country was not involved in an effort to influence the U.S. presidential election.
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7 November 2016 01:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"You claim that you are not anti-Semitic, but that's how you are viewed in Israel.
"That is also not true. I am Pro-Israel."
Pro-Israel? But you portrayed yourself as a friend of Saddam Hussein.
"I am not his friend. He invited me to visit him. So I went. I did it for the sake of the Russian people. He owed us $9 billion and the only way to get the debt repaid was perhaps through a dialogue. I was also against the American aggression. I foresaw it all. History proved me right. Look at the chaos in Iraq. The Americans removed Saddam Hussein and brought in Al-Qaida. I am an orientalist and I know the Arab and Muslim people. Only Saddam Hussein could have maintained stability in Iraq. It is the same in Afghanistan. Who created the Taliban? The Americans. And you will see that the Taliban will come back into power in Afghanistan."
Are you also against an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities?
"Correct. That will create instability."
Can you understand Israel's concern about nuclear weapons in the hands of the ayatollahs' regime in Iran?
"Of course I understand. And maybe you should attack. But I do not advise that, because it is very dangerous. Iran is our neighbor, and an attack on Iran will cause the spread of instability and violence to us, too, in the Caucasus. A military operation in Iran will cause a situation there like the one in Iraq and in Afghanistan, and maybe even worse. I suggest a different solution: to create a strategic alliance between Israel, Russia and the United States. That is power no one will be able to stand up against. The problem is that the Americans, like Napoleon, are out to achieve world hegemony."
Here in your soil
His flow of words is suddenly curtailed. He becomes reflective, looks at his father?s photograph, and tears flow from his eyes again. "Enough with international politics. I want to tell you how I discovered my father's grave."
Three months ago, he says, he was approached by a Russian journalist who told him he was preparing a wonderful gift for his 60th birthday, on April 25. I think I have discovered where your father is buried, the journalist told Zhirinovsky.
The journalist told him about the grave of Wolf Ben Yitzhak Eidelshtein, in Holon. "At first I did not believe him," Zhirinovsky recalls, but I decided to try anyway, to check this direction also." He asked the Russian Embassy in Tel Aviv for assistance. The consul general, Gocha Buachidze, contacted the Hevra Kadisha (the burial society) and the Interior Ministry, and located Yitzhak Eidelshtein, Zhirinovsky's cousin, and together they collected the details until all the pieces of the puzzle fit.
Wolf Ben Yitzhak Eidelshtein was born in the town of Kostopol (not Konotopol, as his mother told him) near Rovno - then in Poland, now in Ukraine. Zhirinovsky's grandfather was a wealthy man, who owned a plywood factory with 500 employees. Now, Zhirinovsky is demanding that the Ukrainian government, which will not permit him to enter the country, compensate him for the family's lost assets; he plans to split any such compensation with his newfound cousin Yitzhak, Zhirinovsky said this week.
At the end of the 1920s, he sent his son Wolf to study agriculture and commercial economics in France. In 1932, Wolf Eidelshtein completed his studies at the University of Grenoble and entered the family business. When World War II broke out, he fled with his brother, Aharon(Aron), to the Soviet Union. The other members of the family -his parents, his sister Rosa and the extended family -perished in the Holocaust.
The rest is a story characteristic of the war generation. The two Eidelshtein brothers made their way from the Soviet Union to Poland, and in 1949 immigrated to Israel. Two years later, Wolf remarried; his second wife's name was Lola Kivlevitz. The couple had no children, but treated the nephew, Yitzhak Eidelshtein (the son of Wolf's brother, Aharon), as their son.
Yitzhak Eidelshtein relates that his uncle Wolf (Vladimir Zhirinovsky's father) never mentioned those details in his past that have come to light only now. He never revealed to his relatives in Israel that he had left behind a wife and a baby son. "He was a warm man, very devoted to family. He told me that when he completed his studies in France, he was offered a position at a French bank but he was in a hurry to return to Poland to be near his mother, who had an eye disease."
According to Yitzhak Eidelshtein, his father Aharon and his Uncle Wolf were not politically active, but they were considered rightists and supported Menachem Begin's Herut movement. "My Uncle Wolf was a very courtly man and a feinschmecker. He loved to dress well. He wore ties and suits. He loved to eat well, especially French food, with which he became acquainted during the period of his studies. He read books in Hebrew, Polish and French and every Friday he took me to see a film."
For a short time Wolf Eidelshtein lived in Jaffa and then moved into a "key money" apartment at 121 Dizengoff Street. He spent his entire working life at Amir, an agricultural equipment company founded by the Farmers Union. He retired in 1972. In 1983, as he was crossing Dizengoff Street next to his home, he was hit by a bus. He was taken to Ichilov Hospital and died there of his injuries. His wife died in 1991 and is buried next to her husband in Holon.
Reverently, Zhirinovsky opens a transparent plastic folder. In it is an official Interior Ministry death certificate, bearing the symbol of the State of Israel. He then removes from the folder photographs of his mother, his father and of himself, a two-month-old infant, in his mother's arms. Again he breaks into tears. Then he regains his composure, perhaps because his son, Igor Lebedev (who bears his mother's name), enters the room.
Thirty-three years old, Igor is tall and his physical build recalls that of his father. A lawyer by education, he is chairman of his father's faction in the Duma. This is his first visit to Israel, and yes, he says, he is enjoying it very much. "You have a beautiful country," he says politely, and adds, "I'm very happy that my father found grandfather's grave. It bothered him his whole life. And I can understand him. I have had a father since I was born. My father did not have a father. Apart from that, I'm happy to discover the grandfather I never knew and to hear his life story. Now I know for certain that I'm one-quarter Jewish."
Won't that hinder your political career?
"I don't think so. I am Russian and I feel like a Russian."
Vladimir Zhirinovsky intervenes, "Why in the world should it hinder? What difference does it make whether you are Russian or Israeli or American or black or white?" he says in a conciliatory tone, as though he had never outrageously said the opposite. "What we need in Russia is someone with Jewish intelligence, a Russian heart, German precision, an American entrepreneurial spirit and Asian fanaticism - and do you know who has all that"? he asks rhetorically. "I do. I have Russian heart. Jewish intelligence. And because of the father I discovered here in Israel, Wolf, who has a German name, I can say that I also have German precision and a sense of entrepreneurship. After all, he was a rich man. Having been born in Kazakhstan, I also have Asian fanaticism."
And one more thing: "Inform the Jewish people that if I am elected president or if I am in the government, you in Israel will have no problems, not with Iran's nuclear program and not with the Hamas terrorists. I will know how to deal with them. After all, my father is buried here, in your soil."
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"That is also not true. I am Pro-Israel."
Pro-Israel? But you portrayed yourself as a friend of Saddam Hussein.
"I am not his friend. He invited me to visit him. So I went. I did it for the sake of the Russian people. He owed us $9 billion and the only way to get the debt repaid was perhaps through a dialogue. I was also against the American aggression. I foresaw it all. History proved me right. Look at the chaos in Iraq. The Americans removed Saddam Hussein and brought in Al-Qaida. I am an orientalist and I know the Arab and Muslim people. Only Saddam Hussein could have maintained stability in Iraq. It is the same in Afghanistan. Who created the Taliban? The Americans. And you will see that the Taliban will come back into power in Afghanistan."
Are you also against an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities?
"Correct. That will create instability."
Can you understand Israel's concern about nuclear weapons in the hands of the ayatollahs' regime in Iran?
"Of course I understand. And maybe you should attack. But I do not advise that, because it is very dangerous. Iran is our neighbor, and an attack on Iran will cause the spread of instability and violence to us, too, in the Caucasus. A military operation in Iran will cause a situation there like the one in Iraq and in Afghanistan, and maybe even worse. I suggest a different solution: to create a strategic alliance between Israel, Russia and the United States. That is power no one will be able to stand up against. The problem is that the Americans, like Napoleon, are out to achieve world hegemony."
Here in your soil
His flow of words is suddenly curtailed. He becomes reflective, looks at his father?s photograph, and tears flow from his eyes again. "Enough with international politics. I want to tell you how I discovered my father's grave."
Three months ago, he says, he was approached by a Russian journalist who told him he was preparing a wonderful gift for his 60th birthday, on April 25. I think I have discovered where your father is buried, the journalist told Zhirinovsky.
The journalist told him about the grave of Wolf Ben Yitzhak Eidelshtein, in Holon. "At first I did not believe him," Zhirinovsky recalls, but I decided to try anyway, to check this direction also." He asked the Russian Embassy in Tel Aviv for assistance. The consul general, Gocha Buachidze, contacted the Hevra Kadisha (the burial society) and the Interior Ministry, and located Yitzhak Eidelshtein, Zhirinovsky's cousin, and together they collected the details until all the pieces of the puzzle fit.
Wolf Ben Yitzhak Eidelshtein was born in the town of Kostopol (not Konotopol, as his mother told him) near Rovno - then in Poland, now in Ukraine. Zhirinovsky's grandfather was a wealthy man, who owned a plywood factory with 500 employees. Now, Zhirinovsky is demanding that the Ukrainian government, which will not permit him to enter the country, compensate him for the family's lost assets; he plans to split any such compensation with his newfound cousin Yitzhak, Zhirinovsky said this week.
At the end of the 1920s, he sent his son Wolf to study agriculture and commercial economics in France. In 1932, Wolf Eidelshtein completed his studies at the University of Grenoble and entered the family business. When World War II broke out, he fled with his brother, Aharon(Aron), to the Soviet Union. The other members of the family -his parents, his sister Rosa and the extended family -perished in the Holocaust.
The rest is a story characteristic of the war generation. The two Eidelshtein brothers made their way from the Soviet Union to Poland, and in 1949 immigrated to Israel. Two years later, Wolf remarried; his second wife's name was Lola Kivlevitz. The couple had no children, but treated the nephew, Yitzhak Eidelshtein (the son of Wolf's brother, Aharon), as their son.
Yitzhak Eidelshtein relates that his uncle Wolf (Vladimir Zhirinovsky's father) never mentioned those details in his past that have come to light only now. He never revealed to his relatives in Israel that he had left behind a wife and a baby son. "He was a warm man, very devoted to family. He told me that when he completed his studies in France, he was offered a position at a French bank but he was in a hurry to return to Poland to be near his mother, who had an eye disease."
According to Yitzhak Eidelshtein, his father Aharon and his Uncle Wolf were not politically active, but they were considered rightists and supported Menachem Begin's Herut movement. "My Uncle Wolf was a very courtly man and a feinschmecker. He loved to dress well. He wore ties and suits. He loved to eat well, especially French food, with which he became acquainted during the period of his studies. He read books in Hebrew, Polish and French and every Friday he took me to see a film."
For a short time Wolf Eidelshtein lived in Jaffa and then moved into a "key money" apartment at 121 Dizengoff Street. He spent his entire working life at Amir, an agricultural equipment company founded by the Farmers Union. He retired in 1972. In 1983, as he was crossing Dizengoff Street next to his home, he was hit by a bus. He was taken to Ichilov Hospital and died there of his injuries. His wife died in 1991 and is buried next to her husband in Holon.
Reverently, Zhirinovsky opens a transparent plastic folder. In it is an official Interior Ministry death certificate, bearing the symbol of the State of Israel. He then removes from the folder photographs of his mother, his father and of himself, a two-month-old infant, in his mother's arms. Again he breaks into tears. Then he regains his composure, perhaps because his son, Igor Lebedev (who bears his mother's name), enters the room.
Thirty-three years old, Igor is tall and his physical build recalls that of his father. A lawyer by education, he is chairman of his father's faction in the Duma. This is his first visit to Israel, and yes, he says, he is enjoying it very much. "You have a beautiful country," he says politely, and adds, "I'm very happy that my father found grandfather's grave. It bothered him his whole life. And I can understand him. I have had a father since I was born. My father did not have a father. Apart from that, I'm happy to discover the grandfather I never knew and to hear his life story. Now I know for certain that I'm one-quarter Jewish."
Won't that hinder your political career?
"I don't think so. I am Russian and I feel like a Russian."
Vladimir Zhirinovsky intervenes, "Why in the world should it hinder? What difference does it make whether you are Russian or Israeli or American or black or white?" he says in a conciliatory tone, as though he had never outrageously said the opposite. "What we need in Russia is someone with Jewish intelligence, a Russian heart, German precision, an American entrepreneurial spirit and Asian fanaticism - and do you know who has all that"? he asks rhetorically. "I do. I have Russian heart. Jewish intelligence. And because of the father I discovered here in Israel, Wolf, who has a German name, I can say that I also have German precision and a sense of entrepreneurship. After all, he was a rich man. Having been born in Kazakhstan, I also have Asian fanaticism."
And one more thing: "Inform the Jewish people that if I am elected president or if I am in the government, you in Israel will have no problems, not with Iran's nuclear program and not with the Hamas terrorists. I will know how to deal with them. After all, my father is buried here, in your soil."
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The Jewish side of the family (cont.)
LOL: "Everyone who alleges that I am anti-Semitic is a liar," he tells Haaretz in an interview, "I have a high regard for the Jewish people, and in the past three years, in several Duma speeches, I praised the experience and intelligence of the Jews. I say only good and positive things about the Jews."
What do you say to the opinion that anti-Semitism is deeply rooted in the heart of the Russian people?
"It is true that there is a certain problem with anti-Semitism in Russia. But that is only a matter of 100, 120 years, because of the Bolshevik Revolution. Many ministers and aides of Lenin and Stalin were Jews. So it is no wonder that there are people in the nation who hate then, because they hate Communism."
But there was anti-Semitism in Russia under the tsar, too.
"Fine. So write that there was anti-Semitism in Russia for 200 years, not 120."
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Alliance of nationalists
In 1989, in the waning days of the Gorbachev regime, Zhironovsky(together with Vladimir Bogachev) founded the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia(LDPR) and became its chairman. He was against the dismantlement of the Soviet Union, but upon the creation of the Russian Federation became one of its most popular political leaders. He placed third in the presidential elections of 1991, garnering more than 6 million votes -8 percent of the total. In the Duma elections of 1993 his party won 23 percent of the vote. His success is attributed to his populist and demagogic skills, as well as to his propaganda tactics. Characteristically, this week he brought to Israel bottles of vodka and cognac, cigarettes, lighters and pens and buttons with his name on them and distributed them generously.
Above all, though, he is known for his direct and blunt style of speech, which sometimes slides into coarse language. Zhirinovsky promised that if he were elected president, he would hand out vodka and brassieres. He did not hesitate to become involved in fistfights with his rivals. On one occasion he struck a Duma member. In 1995 he threw a glass of juice into the face of his political rival Boris Nemtsov during a live-television debate. Nemtsov responded in kind. It is not surprising that Zhirinovsky is much in demand as a television guest.
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In the past Zhirinovsky expressed the hope that the Russian Empire would be restored. He called for the conquest of Alaska from the United States and for scattering Soviet nuclear waste with the wind toward Germany and the Baltic states. In 2005 he was declared persona non grata in Kazakhstan, his native land, after he questioned the importance of its place in history. Recently, Ukraine stated that he would not be allowed to enter its territory, after he called for a gas boycott against the country if Kiev persisted in its refusal to pay market prices for the fuel. Before the first Gulf War, he sent volunteers to Iraq known as "Zhirinovsky's Falcons" to assist Saddam Hussein in his struggle against the United States. He then praised the Iraqi dictator's regime, saying Baghdad had a "democratic government." He sent congratulations to Jean-Marie Le Pen, the racist and ultra-rightwing leader in France, urging the creation of an "alliance of nationalists."
Zhirinovsky has often assailed the supposed influence of the Jews. He identified with the remarks of Pat Buchanan, the American arch-conservative, during his run for the presidency in 1996, when he called the United States a "Zionist-occupied territory." "We in Russia have the same problem," he said.
Such antics and comments have given him the reputation not only of a nationalist and an anti-Semite, but also of someone who is unstable, erratic, a political clown and a master of political gimmicks. Nevertheless, he continues to enjoy considerable popularity among the Russian public. He now heads a faction of 35 parliament members(nearly 10 percent of the 450-seat Duma). Public opinion surveys predict that his party will triple its strength in next year's elections; he intends to run for president in 2008, after the expected retirement of President Vladimir Putin. "I am convinced that one day - if not in 2008, then in 2012- I will be president of the Federation," he says.
"I am pro-Israel"
This is his second visit to Israel. He was first in the country in January 2003, in order to support the election campaign of an Israeli sister party, which was established by a group of unknown new immigrants, but the party did not obtain enough votes to enter the Knesset. He is boycotted by the Foreign Ministry (which also boycotts Le Pen, Romania's Corneliu Tudor and other anti-Semitic leaders), and the Israeli authorities pondered the possibility of refusing to issue him a visa. In the end it was decided that this would be counterproductive, as it would cause a diplomatic incident with Moscow. In Israel, Zhirinovsky received a royal welcome from the Russian Embassy; a special representative escorted him everywhere and a chauffeur-driven car, bearing diplomatic license plates, was placed at his disposal.
"Everyone who alleges that I am anti-Semitic is a liar," he tells Haaretz in an interview, in his room on the 11th floor of a Tel Aviv seaside hotel, between visits to the cemetery. "I have a high regard for the Jewish people, and in the past three years, in several Duma speeches, I praised the experience and intelligence of the Jews. I say only good and positive things about the Jews."
What do you say to the opinion that anti-Semitism is deeply rooted in the heart of the Russian people?
"It is true that there is a certain problem with anti-Semitism in Russia. But that is only a matter of 100, 120 years, because of the Bolshevik Revolution. Many ministers and aides of Lenin and Stalin were Jews. So it is no wonder that there are people in the nation who hate then, because they hate Communism."
But there was anti-Semitism in Russia under the tsar, too.
"Fine. So write that there was anti-Semitism in Russia for 200 years, not 120."
In recent years there have also been anti-Semitic statements, and you are among those who fanned the flames of anti-Semitism.
"I am not anti-Semitic. But it is true that in the government of Boris Yeltsin there were people like [prime minister Yegor] Gaidar, who introduced economic reforms and privatizations that hurt the people. Look at all the oligarchs - Gusinsky, Berezovsky, Gaydamak, Khodorkovsky, Nevzlin - they are all Jews. I have no connections with them. They are all Yeltsin's creations. They were poor people who suddenly became billionaires. How do you think they did that? They robbed and stole the money of the Russian people. And they must return the money to the people."
Are you a rich man?
"Certainly not. I live from the salary of a Knesset member [sic] in the opposition. If I were in the government, I might be rich," he replies, amid cascades of laughter. Perhaps he recalled that on a previous occasion he told a different interviewer that he is fond of Mercedes cars and owns a few.
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LOL: "Everyone who alleges that I am anti-Semitic is a liar," he tells Haaretz in an interview, "I have a high regard for the Jewish people, and in the past three years, in several Duma speeches, I praised the experience and intelligence of the Jews. I say only good and positive things about the Jews."
What do you say to the opinion that anti-Semitism is deeply rooted in the heart of the Russian people?
"It is true that there is a certain problem with anti-Semitism in Russia. But that is only a matter of 100, 120 years, because of the Bolshevik Revolution. Many ministers and aides of Lenin and Stalin were Jews. So it is no wonder that there are people in the nation who hate then, because they hate Communism."
But there was anti-Semitism in Russia under the tsar, too.
"Fine. So write that there was anti-Semitism in Russia for 200 years, not 120."
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Alliance of nationalists
In 1989, in the waning days of the Gorbachev regime, Zhironovsky(together with Vladimir Bogachev) founded the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia(LDPR) and became its chairman. He was against the dismantlement of the Soviet Union, but upon the creation of the Russian Federation became one of its most popular political leaders. He placed third in the presidential elections of 1991, garnering more than 6 million votes -8 percent of the total. In the Duma elections of 1993 his party won 23 percent of the vote. His success is attributed to his populist and demagogic skills, as well as to his propaganda tactics. Characteristically, this week he brought to Israel bottles of vodka and cognac, cigarettes, lighters and pens and buttons with his name on them and distributed them generously.
Above all, though, he is known for his direct and blunt style of speech, which sometimes slides into coarse language. Zhirinovsky promised that if he were elected president, he would hand out vodka and brassieres. He did not hesitate to become involved in fistfights with his rivals. On one occasion he struck a Duma member. In 1995 he threw a glass of juice into the face of his political rival Boris Nemtsov during a live-television debate. Nemtsov responded in kind. It is not surprising that Zhirinovsky is much in demand as a television guest.
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In the past Zhirinovsky expressed the hope that the Russian Empire would be restored. He called for the conquest of Alaska from the United States and for scattering Soviet nuclear waste with the wind toward Germany and the Baltic states. In 2005 he was declared persona non grata in Kazakhstan, his native land, after he questioned the importance of its place in history. Recently, Ukraine stated that he would not be allowed to enter its territory, after he called for a gas boycott against the country if Kiev persisted in its refusal to pay market prices for the fuel. Before the first Gulf War, he sent volunteers to Iraq known as "Zhirinovsky's Falcons" to assist Saddam Hussein in his struggle against the United States. He then praised the Iraqi dictator's regime, saying Baghdad had a "democratic government." He sent congratulations to Jean-Marie Le Pen, the racist and ultra-rightwing leader in France, urging the creation of an "alliance of nationalists."
Zhirinovsky has often assailed the supposed influence of the Jews. He identified with the remarks of Pat Buchanan, the American arch-conservative, during his run for the presidency in 1996, when he called the United States a "Zionist-occupied territory." "We in Russia have the same problem," he said.
Such antics and comments have given him the reputation not only of a nationalist and an anti-Semite, but also of someone who is unstable, erratic, a political clown and a master of political gimmicks. Nevertheless, he continues to enjoy considerable popularity among the Russian public. He now heads a faction of 35 parliament members(nearly 10 percent of the 450-seat Duma). Public opinion surveys predict that his party will triple its strength in next year's elections; he intends to run for president in 2008, after the expected retirement of President Vladimir Putin. "I am convinced that one day - if not in 2008, then in 2012- I will be president of the Federation," he says.
"I am pro-Israel"
This is his second visit to Israel. He was first in the country in January 2003, in order to support the election campaign of an Israeli sister party, which was established by a group of unknown new immigrants, but the party did not obtain enough votes to enter the Knesset. He is boycotted by the Foreign Ministry (which also boycotts Le Pen, Romania's Corneliu Tudor and other anti-Semitic leaders), and the Israeli authorities pondered the possibility of refusing to issue him a visa. In the end it was decided that this would be counterproductive, as it would cause a diplomatic incident with Moscow. In Israel, Zhirinovsky received a royal welcome from the Russian Embassy; a special representative escorted him everywhere and a chauffeur-driven car, bearing diplomatic license plates, was placed at his disposal.
"Everyone who alleges that I am anti-Semitic is a liar," he tells Haaretz in an interview, in his room on the 11th floor of a Tel Aviv seaside hotel, between visits to the cemetery. "I have a high regard for the Jewish people, and in the past three years, in several Duma speeches, I praised the experience and intelligence of the Jews. I say only good and positive things about the Jews."
What do you say to the opinion that anti-Semitism is deeply rooted in the heart of the Russian people?
"It is true that there is a certain problem with anti-Semitism in Russia. But that is only a matter of 100, 120 years, because of the Bolshevik Revolution. Many ministers and aides of Lenin and Stalin were Jews. So it is no wonder that there are people in the nation who hate then, because they hate Communism."
But there was anti-Semitism in Russia under the tsar, too.
"Fine. So write that there was anti-Semitism in Russia for 200 years, not 120."
In recent years there have also been anti-Semitic statements, and you are among those who fanned the flames of anti-Semitism.
"I am not anti-Semitic. But it is true that in the government of Boris Yeltsin there were people like [prime minister Yegor] Gaidar, who introduced economic reforms and privatizations that hurt the people. Look at all the oligarchs - Gusinsky, Berezovsky, Gaydamak, Khodorkovsky, Nevzlin - they are all Jews. I have no connections with them. They are all Yeltsin's creations. They were poor people who suddenly became billionaires. How do you think they did that? They robbed and stole the money of the Russian people. And they must return the money to the people."
Are you a rich man?
"Certainly not. I live from the salary of a Knesset member [sic] in the opposition. If I were in the government, I might be rich," he replies, amid cascades of laughter. Perhaps he recalled that on a previous occasion he told a different interviewer that he is fond of Mercedes cars and owns a few.
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7 November 2016 01:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Now he is actually admitting for the first time that he has known for his whole life that his father was a Jew, while at the same time continuing to insist that he never tried to hide this"
Zhirinovsky was born on April 25, 1946 in the city of Alma-Ata, in Kazakhstan. According to the Russian tradition, the son's middle name is that of the father. Thus his name, Vladimir Wolfovich. His mother, Alexandra Pavlovna Makarova, a Russian, was 34 at the time and the mother of five children, two boys and three girls, from a previous marriage. Her first husband died in 1944 and a year later she remarried and a year after that gave birth to Vladimir (Valodya) Wolfovich. When he was two months old, the relations between his mother and father were severed and never renewed.
In the first years of his political career he denied his Jewish origins, flying into a fury and vehemently rejecting occasional insinuations to this effect in the Russian media. In April 1996, I asked him in an interview that was held at his dacha outside Moscow whether he was not actually a half-Jew. After angrily attacking the hostile Jewish press, he replied nonchalantly, "Me? No way. That is just a slander. My mother was Russian and so was my father. You people cannot deal with my worldview, so you pry and search my past and my private life. I pose a challenge to everyone: Find documents in your archives and show me."
Nikolai Svanidze, who hosts a popular political program on Russian television, did just that more than a decade ago. In the Alma-Ata archives, he discovered documents showing that Zhirinovsky's real name was Eidelshtein. It was only at the age of 16 that he made the change and adopted the name of his mother's first husband.
However, that did not stop Zhirinovsky from continuing to cling to the lie. His official biography, which appears in an English-language pamphlet of 1999, published by his party, states that his father, a lawyer named Wolf Andreivich, was his mother's second husband and that he died in a road accident in the year that Vladimir was born. There is hardly a word of truth in that sentence. His father was not a lawyer, his name was not Zhirinovsky and he did not die in the year of his son's birth.
Only in recent years has a change become apparent in Zhirinovsky's attitude toward his true background. Three years ago he admitted that his father was indeed a Jew. In the past few years, he has also moderated his pronouncements about Jews and has praised their intelligence in several Duma speeches.
About seven months ago, he met with Rabbi Berl Lazar, who describes himself as the chief rabbi of Russian Jewry. Lazar's organization, the POR, played a minor role in helping Zhirinovsky find out what became of his father.
Now he is actually admitting for the first time that he has known for his whole life that his father was a Jew, while at the same time continuing to insist that he never tried to hide this. Zigzags and contradictions are characteristic of the behavior of the most colorful politician in Russia and one of the most controversial in the world. One who is capable of saying one thing and a few minutes later saying the opposite.
"For my whole life I searched for my father," he says. "I didn't know what happened to him. I sent requests to the Red Cross, asking them to locate my father. I tried to look for him in Western Europe and I even contacted people in the United States. But in vain. The only place I didn't try, for some reason, was Israel."
All he knew about his father was what he heard from his mother and that was very little. She told him, mistakenly, that he was born in a small town called Konotopol, which before World War II belonged to Poland and is now in Ukraine. "I went to Ukraine in search of my father. I got to the town of Konotopol, but there was not a scrap of memory about Father." His mother also told him that shortly after his birth, his father had to leave the Soviet Union. Stalin decreed that all the Polish migrants and refugees who had found shelter in the country during the war had to return to their homeland. "Now I have another reason to hate the Bolsheviks and the Communists," he notes with a bitter smile. "They tore my family apart."
When he was two months old, his mother, with Valodya in her arms, traveled to Warsaw to visit her husband. She left the five children from her first marriage in Kazakhstan. After a brief encounter lasting a week, she returned to the Soviet Union. The couple exchanged letters, and in the last of them, toward the end of 1946, Wolf Eidelshtein wrote to Alexandra Pavlovna that he was afraid that her life would be at risk if she received letters from a foreign resident. That was the last contact between them. Zhirinovsky maintains that his parents wanted to live together and that only the circumstances and Stalin's regime of terror forced them to separate. However, this explanation, in which a father cuts himself off from his family and is no longer interested in his only son, seems doubtful.
Along with his mother and his half-brothers and half-sisters, Vladimir Zhirinovsky moved to Moscow. After completing his regular studies, Zhirinovsky enrolled in the Institute of Oriental Languages, specializing in Turkish. According to reports in the Russian press which were based on secret intelligence documents, the KGB recruited him during his studies at the institute. Zhirinovsky denies this vehemently. "I was never in the KGB-that is all inventions and slanders of you journalists," he asserts.
In 1970, he says, he was drafted into the army- "the same way you have in Israel" - with the rank of lieutenant in the Caucasus Command of the Red Army, in Tbilisi, the capital of Georgia. After his military service, he worked as an interpreter in a metallurgical factory that Soviet companies built in Iskenderun, Turkey. Biographies of Zhirinovsky say he was on an intelligence mission; he denies this, of course.
Be that as it may, the Turkish security service caught him photographing security installations, accused him of spying and deported him. Citing his knowledge of Turkish and his service in the Caucasus, he styles himself an "orientalist" and purports to be an expert on Asia and Islam. His past might also explain his fixation with Turkey, which he has called "Russia's most dangerous enemy."
During the next 20 years, he held a variety of positions and pursued his studies. He obtained a law degree from Moscow State University and was admitted to the bar, and took courses at the University of Marxism-Leninism and at the Higher School of the Trade Union Movement. For seven years he was a legal adviser to Mir Publishers, which put out political literature. In 1988, at the height of Mikhail Gorbachev's perestroika policy, Zhirinovsky became one of the founders of the Society of Jewish Culture, was elected to its executive and was responsible for dealing with issues of justice and religion. Russian press investigations of Zhirinovsky claimed that he was acting at the behest of the KGB, with which he continued to maintain ties. Zhirinovsky denies this and again attributes the reports to "propaganda and the campaign of incitement against me."
Similar motives, he says, also underlie a report according to which he submitted a request to immigrate to Israel in the same year, 1988. The records of Nativ, the clandestine organization that was responsible for Israel's ties with the Jews of the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, contain a document attesting that such a request was submitted in November 1988. Zhirinovsky retorts, "It is easy to do provocations, and anyone could have sent an application in my name." Indeed, Nativ occasionally received requests supposedly sent by Soviet President Leonid Brezhnev and KGB chief Yuri Andropov.
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In the end of article, this Trump ad:
(and there was another communist-jewish side that was strongly pro Trump.. so yeah, we must pay attention here..)
Zhirinovsky was born on April 25, 1946 in the city of Alma-Ata, in Kazakhstan. According to the Russian tradition, the son's middle name is that of the father. Thus his name, Vladimir Wolfovich. His mother, Alexandra Pavlovna Makarova, a Russian, was 34 at the time and the mother of five children, two boys and three girls, from a previous marriage. Her first husband died in 1944 and a year later she remarried and a year after that gave birth to Vladimir (Valodya) Wolfovich. When he was two months old, the relations between his mother and father were severed and never renewed.
In the first years of his political career he denied his Jewish origins, flying into a fury and vehemently rejecting occasional insinuations to this effect in the Russian media. In April 1996, I asked him in an interview that was held at his dacha outside Moscow whether he was not actually a half-Jew. After angrily attacking the hostile Jewish press, he replied nonchalantly, "Me? No way. That is just a slander. My mother was Russian and so was my father. You people cannot deal with my worldview, so you pry and search my past and my private life. I pose a challenge to everyone: Find documents in your archives and show me."
Nikolai Svanidze, who hosts a popular political program on Russian television, did just that more than a decade ago. In the Alma-Ata archives, he discovered documents showing that Zhirinovsky's real name was Eidelshtein. It was only at the age of 16 that he made the change and adopted the name of his mother's first husband.
However, that did not stop Zhirinovsky from continuing to cling to the lie. His official biography, which appears in an English-language pamphlet of 1999, published by his party, states that his father, a lawyer named Wolf Andreivich, was his mother's second husband and that he died in a road accident in the year that Vladimir was born. There is hardly a word of truth in that sentence. His father was not a lawyer, his name was not Zhirinovsky and he did not die in the year of his son's birth.
Only in recent years has a change become apparent in Zhirinovsky's attitude toward his true background. Three years ago he admitted that his father was indeed a Jew. In the past few years, he has also moderated his pronouncements about Jews and has praised their intelligence in several Duma speeches.
About seven months ago, he met with Rabbi Berl Lazar, who describes himself as the chief rabbi of Russian Jewry. Lazar's organization, the POR, played a minor role in helping Zhirinovsky find out what became of his father.
Now he is actually admitting for the first time that he has known for his whole life that his father was a Jew, while at the same time continuing to insist that he never tried to hide this. Zigzags and contradictions are characteristic of the behavior of the most colorful politician in Russia and one of the most controversial in the world. One who is capable of saying one thing and a few minutes later saying the opposite.
"For my whole life I searched for my father," he says. "I didn't know what happened to him. I sent requests to the Red Cross, asking them to locate my father. I tried to look for him in Western Europe and I even contacted people in the United States. But in vain. The only place I didn't try, for some reason, was Israel."
All he knew about his father was what he heard from his mother and that was very little. She told him, mistakenly, that he was born in a small town called Konotopol, which before World War II belonged to Poland and is now in Ukraine. "I went to Ukraine in search of my father. I got to the town of Konotopol, but there was not a scrap of memory about Father." His mother also told him that shortly after his birth, his father had to leave the Soviet Union. Stalin decreed that all the Polish migrants and refugees who had found shelter in the country during the war had to return to their homeland. "Now I have another reason to hate the Bolsheviks and the Communists," he notes with a bitter smile. "They tore my family apart."
When he was two months old, his mother, with Valodya in her arms, traveled to Warsaw to visit her husband. She left the five children from her first marriage in Kazakhstan. After a brief encounter lasting a week, she returned to the Soviet Union. The couple exchanged letters, and in the last of them, toward the end of 1946, Wolf Eidelshtein wrote to Alexandra Pavlovna that he was afraid that her life would be at risk if she received letters from a foreign resident. That was the last contact between them. Zhirinovsky maintains that his parents wanted to live together and that only the circumstances and Stalin's regime of terror forced them to separate. However, this explanation, in which a father cuts himself off from his family and is no longer interested in his only son, seems doubtful.
Along with his mother and his half-brothers and half-sisters, Vladimir Zhirinovsky moved to Moscow. After completing his regular studies, Zhirinovsky enrolled in the Institute of Oriental Languages, specializing in Turkish. According to reports in the Russian press which were based on secret intelligence documents, the KGB recruited him during his studies at the institute. Zhirinovsky denies this vehemently. "I was never in the KGB-that is all inventions and slanders of you journalists," he asserts.
In 1970, he says, he was drafted into the army- "the same way you have in Israel" - with the rank of lieutenant in the Caucasus Command of the Red Army, in Tbilisi, the capital of Georgia. After his military service, he worked as an interpreter in a metallurgical factory that Soviet companies built in Iskenderun, Turkey. Biographies of Zhirinovsky say he was on an intelligence mission; he denies this, of course.
Be that as it may, the Turkish security service caught him photographing security installations, accused him of spying and deported him. Citing his knowledge of Turkish and his service in the Caucasus, he styles himself an "orientalist" and purports to be an expert on Asia and Islam. His past might also explain his fixation with Turkey, which he has called "Russia's most dangerous enemy."
During the next 20 years, he held a variety of positions and pursued his studies. He obtained a law degree from Moscow State University and was admitted to the bar, and took courses at the University of Marxism-Leninism and at the Higher School of the Trade Union Movement. For seven years he was a legal adviser to Mir Publishers, which put out political literature. In 1988, at the height of Mikhail Gorbachev's perestroika policy, Zhirinovsky became one of the founders of the Society of Jewish Culture, was elected to its executive and was responsible for dealing with issues of justice and religion. Russian press investigations of Zhirinovsky claimed that he was acting at the behest of the KGB, with which he continued to maintain ties. Zhirinovsky denies this and again attributes the reports to "propaganda and the campaign of incitement against me."
Similar motives, he says, also underlie a report according to which he submitted a request to immigrate to Israel in the same year, 1988. The records of Nativ, the clandestine organization that was responsible for Israel's ties with the Jews of the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, contain a document attesting that such a request was submitted in November 1988. Zhirinovsky retorts, "It is easy to do provocations, and anyone could have sent an application in my name." Indeed, Nativ occasionally received requests supposedly sent by Soviet President Leonid Brezhnev and KGB chief Yuri Andropov.
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In the end of article, this Trump ad:
(and there was another communist-jewish side that was strongly pro Trump.. so yeah, we must pay attention here..)
7 November 2016 01:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Zhirinovsky arrived in Israel secretly at the end of last week on a private visit. He was accompanied by his son, Igor, who is also a member of the Duma"
" ..He has just placed a floral wreath and a memorial candle on the grave. From his pocket he takes out a blue matchbox, on which is inscribed the name of the hotel he is staying at. He lights one match and then another, fighting the breeze, until the candle is lit. He then takes a colored felt pen. Kneeling, almost prostrating himself on the grave, on which the inscription has faded somewhat, he writes in Russian his father's full name: Eidelshtein Wolf Isakovich. His bodyguard places a folding chair by the grave. Zhirinovsky sits down on it with his full weight. He mumbles something, as though reciting a prayer, perhaps talking to himself, perhaps to the headstone. "I looked for you all over the world. In Russia, in Poland, in Ukraine, in America. And now I have found you in Israel. I was assisted by diplomats, by journalists and by friends."
He lays his hands on the stone and caresses it. Then he uses one hand to pick up a large handful of the sand that cradles the grave and pours it into the sweat-soaked handkerchief and ties its ends slowly. He orders the bodyguard to safeguard the handkerchief. "I will keep it in my apartment in Moscow until the day I die," he explains and then breaks into tears again. After calming himself he mumbles again, though his words are clearly audible: "If I have a grandson, I will name him Wolf."
Intimate moments
Zhirinovsky arrived in Israel secretly at the end of last week on a private visit. He was accompanied by his son, Igor, who is also a member of the Duma. Zhirinovsky relates that he has twin grandsons- Igor's children- and proudly shows their photograph. Also in the entourage is a beefy bodyguard and another Duma member. Since his arrival in Israel last Thursday, Zhirinovsky has been accompanied like a shadow by his cousin, Yitzhak Eidelshtein. Until then neither of the cousins knew of the other's existence. Uncharacteristically for a politician whose career has been composed of scandals that are well-orchestrated for the media, Zhirinovsky this time sought to keep the visit a secret. He was taken by surprise when his presence in Israel, and all the more so in these circumstances, was discovered by Haaretz.
"These are private and very intimate moments," says the high-profile politico in whom the boundaries between the public and the private are generally blurred. "I wanted to be here by myself, to be alone with my father, whom I last saw when I was two months old." Later he will be joined by a crew from Russian television.
"Ten days ago someone from Chabad in Moscow phoned me and asked whether I had any connection to Wolf Eidelshtein, who was my uncle," relates Yitzhak Eidelshtein. "They asked me to send them a picture of him and details about the circumstances of his death and about his grave. All they told me was that the searcher is perhaps a relative of mine, a person called Vladimir."
Eidelshtein, 56, who owns a gift and housewares shop in Ramat Hasharon, replied to the request immediately. The next day they informed him that this Vladimir was on his way to Israel and they asked him to wait at the airport. In the meantime, the person called Vladimir phoned him, but did not give his surname. "He suggested that I identify myself with a sign with the name Vladimir Isakov written on it, my name in Russian." Last Thursday, Zhirinovsky's retinue arrived at Ben-Gurion International Airport. "They asked me to go out with them immediately to my uncle's grave and I agreed. Only then did someone from the Russian Embassy ask me if I knew who Vladimir was. I said that I didn't. And then he told me that he was Vladimir Zhirinovsky. I was in shock. Of course I knew who he was because I had heard of him."
Does the fact that the cousin you found is considered an anti-Semite and a nationalist bother you?
"In the conversations that I and my family had with him we did not talk about politics. I?m just all emotional and excited about the family secret that has been revealed to me, and I'm glad that I now have a new relative whose existence I hadn't known about. I know that in the past, he denied that his father was Jewish and he said harsh things. But I also know that now he is truly interested in discovering his Judaism, turning over a new leaf and helping Israel's relations with Russia. I believe him and I intend to help him."
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/the-jewish-side-of-the-family-1.191738
" ..He has just placed a floral wreath and a memorial candle on the grave. From his pocket he takes out a blue matchbox, on which is inscribed the name of the hotel he is staying at. He lights one match and then another, fighting the breeze, until the candle is lit. He then takes a colored felt pen. Kneeling, almost prostrating himself on the grave, on which the inscription has faded somewhat, he writes in Russian his father's full name: Eidelshtein Wolf Isakovich. His bodyguard places a folding chair by the grave. Zhirinovsky sits down on it with his full weight. He mumbles something, as though reciting a prayer, perhaps talking to himself, perhaps to the headstone. "I looked for you all over the world. In Russia, in Poland, in Ukraine, in America. And now I have found you in Israel. I was assisted by diplomats, by journalists and by friends."
He lays his hands on the stone and caresses it. Then he uses one hand to pick up a large handful of the sand that cradles the grave and pours it into the sweat-soaked handkerchief and ties its ends slowly. He orders the bodyguard to safeguard the handkerchief. "I will keep it in my apartment in Moscow until the day I die," he explains and then breaks into tears again. After calming himself he mumbles again, though his words are clearly audible: "If I have a grandson, I will name him Wolf."
Intimate moments
Zhirinovsky arrived in Israel secretly at the end of last week on a private visit. He was accompanied by his son, Igor, who is also a member of the Duma. Zhirinovsky relates that he has twin grandsons- Igor's children- and proudly shows their photograph. Also in the entourage is a beefy bodyguard and another Duma member. Since his arrival in Israel last Thursday, Zhirinovsky has been accompanied like a shadow by his cousin, Yitzhak Eidelshtein. Until then neither of the cousins knew of the other's existence. Uncharacteristically for a politician whose career has been composed of scandals that are well-orchestrated for the media, Zhirinovsky this time sought to keep the visit a secret. He was taken by surprise when his presence in Israel, and all the more so in these circumstances, was discovered by Haaretz.
"These are private and very intimate moments," says the high-profile politico in whom the boundaries between the public and the private are generally blurred. "I wanted to be here by myself, to be alone with my father, whom I last saw when I was two months old." Later he will be joined by a crew from Russian television.
"Ten days ago someone from Chabad in Moscow phoned me and asked whether I had any connection to Wolf Eidelshtein, who was my uncle," relates Yitzhak Eidelshtein. "They asked me to send them a picture of him and details about the circumstances of his death and about his grave. All they told me was that the searcher is perhaps a relative of mine, a person called Vladimir."
Eidelshtein, 56, who owns a gift and housewares shop in Ramat Hasharon, replied to the request immediately. The next day they informed him that this Vladimir was on his way to Israel and they asked him to wait at the airport. In the meantime, the person called Vladimir phoned him, but did not give his surname. "He suggested that I identify myself with a sign with the name Vladimir Isakov written on it, my name in Russian." Last Thursday, Zhirinovsky's retinue arrived at Ben-Gurion International Airport. "They asked me to go out with them immediately to my uncle's grave and I agreed. Only then did someone from the Russian Embassy ask me if I knew who Vladimir was. I said that I didn't. And then he told me that he was Vladimir Zhirinovsky. I was in shock. Of course I knew who he was because I had heard of him."
Does the fact that the cousin you found is considered an anti-Semite and a nationalist bother you?
"In the conversations that I and my family had with him we did not talk about politics. I?m just all emotional and excited about the family secret that has been revealed to me, and I'm glad that I now have a new relative whose existence I hadn't known about. I know that in the past, he denied that his father was Jewish and he said harsh things. But I also know that now he is truly interested in discovering his Judaism, turning over a new leaf and helping Israel's relations with Russia. I believe him and I intend to help him."
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/the-jewish-side-of-the-family-1.191738
http://www.haaretz.com/the-jewish-side-of-the-family-1.191738
7 November 2016 01:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"That was just before he moved to Moscow from Kazakhstan, in what was then Soviet Central Asia, for higher education. Ethnic quotas for universities at the time held back many Jewish or Jewish-sounding students. Zhirinovsky won a place in the prestigious Institute of Oriental Languages, affiliated with Moscow State University.
The worn, handwritten documents at the Alma-Ata archives were retrieved from dusty shelves and cardboard boxes in response to a reporter's inquiries. Officials at the archives said they were authentic.
In Moscow, Grigory Serebrennikov, a spokesman for Zhirinovsky's party, told the AP, "The documents clearly have been forged."
"Ever since his birth, his only last name has been Zhirinovsky. This name (Eidelshtein) never figured in his documents," Serebrennikov said.
Serebrennikov said Zhirinovsky would answer questions, but would charge $5,000 for a half-hour interview. He ruled out a meeting without payment.
Zhirinovsky's autobiography, "The Final March South," claims his father was named Volf Andrey-evich Zhirinovsky, but no records could be found for such a man in Alma-Ata. Details about the father in the autobiography seem to combine elements from his mother's two husbands.
One husband was Andrei Vasil-ye-vich Zhirinovsky who, documents show, died of tuberculosis in August 1944, 18 months before Zhirinovsky's birth on April 25, 1946.
In the autobiography, Zhirinovsky mentions that his mother had five children by her first husband, but never names him.
A marriage registration shows that five months before Zhirinovsky was born, his mother married Volf Isakovich Eidel-shtein, who was officially listed as Jewish. She became Alexandra Pavlovna Eidelshtein and her nationality was listed as Russian. In the Soviet Union, being Jewish was considered a distinct nationality. There is no further record of Eidelshtein.
On Zhirinovsky's birth registration, his father is identified only as "Volf." A note by an official on the back of the registration says "no documents for father." The baby's last name is handwritten in ink as Eidelshtein, then crossed out and listed in different handwriting as Zhirinovsky. A jotted explanation says the change was made in 1964.
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Mikhail Iskhakov, who says he was a close childhood friend of Zhirinovsky, told AP that Zhirinovsky's mother "had a few different husbands. I don't even know if it is clear who the father was." In his autobiography, Zhirinovsky said his mother had relationships with several men. Only two legal marriages are known. She died in 1985.
Jewish activists say Zhirinovsky worked for a Jewish organization, Shalom, in Moscow in the late 1980s, but he has denied any affiliation with the group. He obtained an invitation to emigrate to Israel in 1983, but never applied. He has denied being antisemitic but has said Jews bring antisemitism on themselves. He has been quoted as saying Jews are "infecting the country" through the media.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/04/04/records-indicate-zhirinovsky-changed-jewish-name/5cb7ac2a-3f30-4bfa-85ba-94dbda56b39a/
The worn, handwritten documents at the Alma-Ata archives were retrieved from dusty shelves and cardboard boxes in response to a reporter's inquiries. Officials at the archives said they were authentic.
In Moscow, Grigory Serebrennikov, a spokesman for Zhirinovsky's party, told the AP, "The documents clearly have been forged."
"Ever since his birth, his only last name has been Zhirinovsky. This name (Eidelshtein) never figured in his documents," Serebrennikov said.
Serebrennikov said Zhirinovsky would answer questions, but would charge $5,000 for a half-hour interview. He ruled out a meeting without payment.
Zhirinovsky's autobiography, "The Final March South," claims his father was named Volf Andrey-evich Zhirinovsky, but no records could be found for such a man in Alma-Ata. Details about the father in the autobiography seem to combine elements from his mother's two husbands.
One husband was Andrei Vasil-ye-vich Zhirinovsky who, documents show, died of tuberculosis in August 1944, 18 months before Zhirinovsky's birth on April 25, 1946.
In the autobiography, Zhirinovsky mentions that his mother had five children by her first husband, but never names him.
A marriage registration shows that five months before Zhirinovsky was born, his mother married Volf Isakovich Eidel-shtein, who was officially listed as Jewish. She became Alexandra Pavlovna Eidelshtein and her nationality was listed as Russian. In the Soviet Union, being Jewish was considered a distinct nationality. There is no further record of Eidelshtein.
On Zhirinovsky's birth registration, his father is identified only as "Volf." A note by an official on the back of the registration says "no documents for father." The baby's last name is handwritten in ink as Eidelshtein, then crossed out and listed in different handwriting as Zhirinovsky. A jotted explanation says the change was made in 1964.
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Mikhail Iskhakov, who says he was a close childhood friend of Zhirinovsky, told AP that Zhirinovsky's mother "had a few different husbands. I don't even know if it is clear who the father was." In his autobiography, Zhirinovsky said his mother had relationships with several men. Only two legal marriages are known. She died in 1985.
Jewish activists say Zhirinovsky worked for a Jewish organization, Shalom, in Moscow in the late 1980s, but he has denied any affiliation with the group. He obtained an invitation to emigrate to Israel in 1983, but never applied. He has denied being antisemitic but has said Jews bring antisemitism on themselves. He has been quoted as saying Jews are "infecting the country" through the media.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/04/04/records-indicate-zhirinovsky-changed-jewish-name/5cb7ac2a-3f30-4bfa-85ba-94dbda56b39a/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/04/04/records-indicate-zhirinovsky-changed-jewish-name/5cb7ac2a-3f30-4bfa-85ba-94dbda56b39a/
7 November 2016 01:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Public records show that Vladimir Zhirinovsky, the Russian nationalist leader who campaigns on anti-Semitic themes, had a Jewish last name until age 18.
Zhirinovsky vehemently denies that he or his parents were Jewish. Zhirinovsky's origins have political significance in Russia because of his attacks on Jews, and the documents raise questions about his candor.The public records were found by a reporter working for The Associated Press and Cable News Network in four archives in Alma-Ata, Kazakhstan, the city where Zhirinovsky was born and raised.
Zhirinovsky's Liberal Democratic Party won 23.5 percent of the national vote in December's parliamentary elections, and he has said he will run for Russia's presidency in 1996. Much of his political strength rests on extreme nationalists who are virulently anti-Semitic.
Although the records do not say specifically who his father was, Zhirinovsky's surname was listed on his birth registration as Eidelshtein. Documents show he applied for and received permission to change his name from Eidelshtein to Zhirinovsky in June 1964.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/345487/ZHIRINOVSKY-DENIES-THAT-HIS-FAMILYS-JEWISH.html?pg=all
Zhirinovsky vehemently denies that he or his parents were Jewish. Zhirinovsky's origins have political significance in Russia because of his attacks on Jews, and the documents raise questions about his candor.The public records were found by a reporter working for The Associated Press and Cable News Network in four archives in Alma-Ata, Kazakhstan, the city where Zhirinovsky was born and raised.
Zhirinovsky's Liberal Democratic Party won 23.5 percent of the national vote in December's parliamentary elections, and he has said he will run for Russia's presidency in 1996. Much of his political strength rests on extreme nationalists who are virulently anti-Semitic.
Although the records do not say specifically who his father was, Zhirinovsky's surname was listed on his birth registration as Eidelshtein. Documents show he applied for and received permission to change his name from Eidelshtein to Zhirinovsky in June 1964.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/345487/ZHIRINOVSKY-DENIES-THAT-HIS-FAMILYS-JEWISH.html?pg=all
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/345487/ZHIRINOVSKY-DENIES-THAT-HIS-FAMILYS-JEWISH.html?pg=all
7 November 2016 01:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
He is widely known under the nickname Zhirik, but he prefers to be known by the acronym "VVZH".
"he called for a military march towards the Indian Ocean and for the overthrow of legitimate governments of many countries. In February 2005, Zhirinovsky was declared persona non grata in Kazakhstan. In June 2006 the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine denied Zhirinovsky entrance to the country because of statements, "that diminish the dignity of the state of Ukraine."
"He is a Doctor of Philosophy and an author of multiple press publications. In 2001 Zhirinovsky presented his complete works totaling 55 volumes. He is a member of the Academy of Social Sciences and a professor at the Academy of Security Problems. Zhirinovsky was awarded for his “contribution in consolidation of Russian statehood” by the President of Russia.
In 1988 Zhirinovsky was among the organizers of the congress of the Democratic Union Party. He refused to join this party, however, because he disagreed with some basic planks of its political declaration. For example, Zhirinovsky proposed to exclude the thesis about the destructive role of the Communist Party in the history of USSR.
Vladimir Zhirinovsky is divorced. His ex-wife, Galina Lebedeva, is a candidate of biological sciences, a virologist and the president of the Association of Parliamentary Activities. Zhirinovsky’s son, Igor Lebedev was born in 1972. He has a degree in law. In 2000 he was elected Chairman of the Liberal Democratic Party.
"he called for a military march towards the Indian Ocean and for the overthrow of legitimate governments of many countries. In February 2005, Zhirinovsky was declared persona non grata in Kazakhstan. In June 2006 the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine denied Zhirinovsky entrance to the country because of statements, "that diminish the dignity of the state of Ukraine."
"He is a Doctor of Philosophy and an author of multiple press publications. In 2001 Zhirinovsky presented his complete works totaling 55 volumes. He is a member of the Academy of Social Sciences and a professor at the Academy of Security Problems. Zhirinovsky was awarded for his “contribution in consolidation of Russian statehood” by the President of Russia.
In 1988 Zhirinovsky was among the organizers of the congress of the Democratic Union Party. He refused to join this party, however, because he disagreed with some basic planks of its political declaration. For example, Zhirinovsky proposed to exclude the thesis about the destructive role of the Communist Party in the history of USSR.
Vladimir Zhirinovsky is divorced. His ex-wife, Galina Lebedeva, is a candidate of biological sciences, a virologist and the president of the Association of Parliamentary Activities. Zhirinovsky’s son, Igor Lebedev was born in 1972. He has a degree in law. In 2000 he was elected Chairman of the Liberal Democratic Party.
7 November 2016 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"disallowed by the Communist Party and by Mir, which cited a letter from his previous employer that questioned his ethics"
From 1970 to 1972 he served as an army lieutenant in the Caucasus. In 1972-1975 Zhirinovsky worked as an expert on Western European Affairs in the Soviet Defense of Peace Committee. In 1975–1977 he worked in the Higher School of Trade-Unionism in the Dean's office for foreign students. In 1977-1983 Zhirinovsky was an officer in the USSR Department of Justice. He headed the legal department at the publishing company Mir from 1983 to 1990.
In 1983 Zhirinovsky landed a position as head of the law department at the Mir publishing company, a post that served as a springboard for his political career. When the local council held elections in 1987, Zhirinovsky sought to run as the firm’s candidate and as an independent, but he was disallowed by the Communist Party and by Mir, which cited a letter from his previous employer that questioned his ethics
From 1970 to 1972 he served as an army lieutenant in the Caucasus. In 1972-1975 Zhirinovsky worked as an expert on Western European Affairs in the Soviet Defense of Peace Committee. In 1975–1977 he worked in the Higher School of Trade-Unionism in the Dean's office for foreign students. In 1977-1983 Zhirinovsky was an officer in the USSR Department of Justice. He headed the legal department at the publishing company Mir from 1983 to 1990.
In 1983 Zhirinovsky landed a position as head of the law department at the Mir publishing company, a post that served as a springboard for his political career. When the local council held elections in 1987, Zhirinovsky sought to run as the firm’s candidate and as an independent, but he was disallowed by the Communist Party and by Mir, which cited a letter from his previous employer that questioned his ethics
7 November 2016 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ethnicity: His father, Volf Eidelshtein, was a Polish Jew, and his mother, Alexandra Pavlovna, was of Russian background.
Vladimir Zhirinovsky was born in Alma-Ata, the capital of the Kazakh Soviet Socialistic Republic, now Kazakhstan. He was the last of six children. His father, Volf Edelstein, was a Polish Jew. His paternal grandfather was a wealthy industrialist from Kostopil, who owned the largest timber factory in the region and was head of the Jewish community. Zhirinovsky's father, Wolf Eidelshtein, immigrated to Israel in 1949 together with his new wife Bella, where he worked as an agronomist in Tel Aviv, until he died in a bus accident in 1983. Vladimir did not find out about his father's life in Israel until many years later. Vladimir’s mother, Aleksandra Zhirinovskaya raised six children on her own.
http://prabook.com/web/person-view.html?profileId=960349
Vladimir Zhirinovsky was born in Alma-Ata, the capital of the Kazakh Soviet Socialistic Republic, now Kazakhstan. He was the last of six children. His father, Volf Edelstein, was a Polish Jew. His paternal grandfather was a wealthy industrialist from Kostopil, who owned the largest timber factory in the region and was head of the Jewish community. Zhirinovsky's father, Wolf Eidelshtein, immigrated to Israel in 1949 together with his new wife Bella, where he worked as an agronomist in Tel Aviv, until he died in a bus accident in 1983. Vladimir did not find out about his father's life in Israel until many years later. Vladimir’s mother, Aleksandra Zhirinovskaya raised six children on her own.
http://prabook.com/web/person-view.html?profileId=960349
http://prabook.com/web/person-view.html?profileId=960349
7 November 2016 01:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
the leader of the Liberal Democratic Party, the third largest in the country. Zhirinovsky, an anti-Semitic nationalist, who has expressed esteem for Hitler, proposed that Russia offer asylum to Yasser Arafat and supported Saddam Hussein, found his father's grave in the Holon cemetery, outside Tel Aviv. Zhirinovskys quest for his roots- in the past he had denied that he had Jewish origins- ended, of all places in the world, in Israel.
"For 60 years I have been looking for my father," he said on Sunday of this week, as we stood in Row 18, Bloc 27, Area 6 of the cemetery. It was midday and the sun was brutal. Zhirinovsky pulls a handkerchief from his pocket and wipes away the beads of perspiration on his forehead. He is wearing a cap, though this one is cream colored and not the black that has become his trademark. "Sixty years I looked for him all over the world- and now I have found him."
His eyes are wet with tears, and not for the last time. Is he genuinely moved? It's hard to know. He is a superb actor. "The best entertainer among the politicians," the daily Pravda called him a few years ago. But as far as one can tell from his expression and his body language, this time he is truly moved.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/the-jewish-side-of-the-family-1.191738
"For 60 years I have been looking for my father," he said on Sunday of this week, as we stood in Row 18, Bloc 27, Area 6 of the cemetery. It was midday and the sun was brutal. Zhirinovsky pulls a handkerchief from his pocket and wipes away the beads of perspiration on his forehead. He is wearing a cap, though this one is cream colored and not the black that has become his trademark. "Sixty years I looked for him all over the world- and now I have found him."
His eyes are wet with tears, and not for the last time. Is he genuinely moved? It's hard to know. He is a superb actor. "The best entertainer among the politicians," the daily Pravda called him a few years ago. But as far as one can tell from his expression and his body language, this time he is truly moved.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/the-jewish-side-of-the-family-1.191738
http://www.haaretz.com/the-jewish-side-of-the-family-1.191738
7 November 2016 01:03
Margus Meigo replied to Peter Anjikwi's comment.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
Chao!
(in my mailbox if needed )7 November 2016 00:46
Margus Meigo replied to Peter Anjikwi's comment.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
but i guess some people just want to keep them self in ONE language.. and perfect that in many variations like spanish, english.. etc.. that are mostly all from same root language family (that MY home language is NOT from, not from indo-European.. )
and yes, would be better for us, perhaps, to learn this language, but is more better, for these to get my other kind of energy language... that can be picked up..
but in the end, You, as a women, are Right,
i mean,, all point you do this conversation is Your plan with a God, to make me say these things, that You can Use for the deepest level of religious plan7 November 2016 00:45
Margus Meigo replied to Peter Anjikwi's comment.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
there is languages that can create new material,
there is the kind that can with in seconds make You neal in complete collapse... there is the ones that in minutes can make one completely broken
there is the ones that can move time (or you in time) and the ones that can be used for cats and plants7 November 2016 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to Peter Anjikwi's comment.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
()7 November 2016 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to Peter Anjikwi's comment.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
this is the problem, "Intelligent human"
compared to these levels we talk about, is like comparing matchbox with a bird7 November 2016 00:39
Margus Meigo replied to Peter Anjikwi's comment.
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how arrogant is to demand, that i should limit my brain and work, to focus to send Your type of language only..
You do know ,that THIS type of language, if perfected, limits OTHER kind of powers and understandings right ?
need i spend time to this to try to make up for you an explanation why ?7 November 2016 00:39
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Are you really so simple, to think that others have to be limit them self, to use primitive language, ..and if them not do it in Your way this is some serious minus of my side, .. instead of You.. out of great thankfulness, should see effort to understand what you can and be thankful for that7 November 2016 00:37
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there is higher levels of communication then written language,
that i have to force my self to use, to communicate in low level, with You kids7 November 2016 00:34
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thanks to global media and internet, addictions, everyone soon can not escape from religious truths7 November 2016 00:33
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really ?
Seems like every day more and more deeper level Christians are coming to a world then any other time in past millennia,
over half a planed is on Abraham beliefs alone ..
But soon as average humans are evolved ... in safe levels, the proper education locked... that they can be shown higher understandings.. and then these education sheep become over night, more religious then the old schoolers.. patriotic ways.. but they still look a like bit communist (half-thought revelation ideology based), even then.. unless they activate love..7 November 2016 00:32
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like Hebrew's intelligence
is not same kind of thinking, same king of brain chemistry usage as Roman School7 November 2016 00:30
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besides many other way, in co-operation and hybrid ways of using brain, not just linear factory education7 November 2016 00:30
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perhaps you not even learned in school, that-there is another types of intelligence,e besides greek-roman robotic one
whole new way of understanding things
starting from big picture and then testing it by smallest parts and look how they fit in7 November 2016 00:29
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Lisa Lore Your biology is real, just understanding inside what, why and by whos' guidance, this is .. well.. for out of love can say, half way7 November 2016 00:28
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Lisa You kind of fail to realize, that these things he asks are real, but in Your school, to keep hypnosis going, these "attacks" are prepared, explained upfront, with colorful story and explanation why one or another question is unreasonable (questions expose )
You are women, should be smarter then this, even smarter7 November 2016 00:25
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Lisa Lore so we agree : )7 November 2016 00:21
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... and i know upfront,
You kind upfront i will tell You, will say "Oh, psychiatrist become crazy or are anyway..."
Just for information: She is not the one as her co-workers, who use the substances that is massively abused.. by these who are unable to handle the truths that they have to face every day, if they use their critical mind about the things they see and hear every day...
As Hillary Clinton told: People just do not make these story's up in their kitchen..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IfIy-J5Ui4&list=PLUwQ5VVrgr57U3Jb070J6_Mvp5q0UqMykhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IfIy-J5Ui4&list=PLUwQ5VVrgr57U3Jb070J6_Mvp5q0UqMyk
7 November 2016 00:19
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Just for interest, my partner is our world part highest level psychiatrist (Baltic-Finnish-Scandinavia side) who is head of committee on our land, who decides who can get psychiatric license and who can not.
Thing that She has become understand, is way be on me.. besides outer and inner worlds..
Funny .. makes me smile, when i see upfront what You try .. and for that, i have prepared, many ways, with a lord, sending us together7 November 2016 00:14
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You Welcomed : )6 November 2016 23:55
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but the ones who think ONE dimensional, .. and use their logic .. that if GENES are related then they imagine it was happening in here, naturally only.. afraid to realize, that You are a lab rat yourself, aren't You ?
except few of You ... who is working for agency, for misinformation, to keep illusions running, with "strong" arguments and agreeable behind a scene , another domain propaganda agreement, like "yeah there is no point to argue here"
You might thing you are on higher level of evolution, but you aliens, know, that these demon-likes as you, will be eliminated among from REAL humans
as Your grand illusion will be proved fake, by Your OWN tools, ...and i not even calling You fools, as You are not, just a workers for agency, Large agency looking from current one dimensional earth... that has EASY job for millennials to manipulate thousands of species and plant trails of "truth".. to be "discovered" .. so the trapped true souls can be eventually self trapped and then with technology souls extracted.. to use in battle against Women, Nature, God6 November 2016 23:54
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and You know the reason why Humans systematically have eliminated wolfs in last millennia ? Like in England last one was eliminated about 1000 years ago....
Because they can easily prove for you .. that there is some OTHER species who do it6 November 2016 23:49
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This is how Your circle logic, who is afraid to ACTUALLY think of your own, acts... as you run to fast, to "answers" instead using your brain a bit that you are gifted with
... and as You most likely meat eaters and under delirium plants, then You share same kind of imaginations, between brains, that make it true and internal slave mechanisms cut of any logic with a fear, as soon You start to realistically imagine,
humans going to a wolfs.. or feeding them with their leftovers.. ... then after doing that for hundreds of years.. (and even that COMPLETELY ignores wolf psychic 's and how they think and live.. but let's say then wolfs and humans was like brothers ... )
So one day humans trap them...
And started to breed, between who ?
Really, according to YOUR thinking, humans had 50 000, 200 000 years ago this kind of thinking, to experiment with a Wolfs ...
they was imagining upfront that wolfs can be their... security cards or something ?
And all the cat's come out of nature and now are 95% with humans only ?6 November 2016 23:47
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Craig Nicklin what has this "if a trait is successful it will be better and have a better chance of breeding than a less successful one" to do with WOLFS and dogs ?6 November 2016 23:41
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You still pla - pla about better traits.. think before you just copy from your brain what is told you in school, for hypnosis6 November 2016 23:40
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Not really, Your religion is Circle. in closed loop, this is why you have hard time imagining, the absurdity of wolf breeding
Not even talking about cats6 November 2016 23:39
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be calm now, and think a bit, seriously..
imagine old society... where people was MORE respectful for animals and keeping animals for THEM self..
Not messing around with them to much...6 November 2016 23:38
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You MUST ignore ALL current scientist tests what they do when breeding x with y .. as THESE knowings according to monkey and big bang BELIEVERS did Not exist..6 November 2016 23:37
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this is reason why i am not in to eating potato and tomato so much, and for sure will not go in to smoking, the black magic .. to hook up in large slave energy field..
Point is that these things are designed FOR us, around us, and by using US..
by higher intelligence , for reason.
cat and dog for example are for current age, to keep humans not robotizing and to monitor our behavior6 November 2016 23:35
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yes, tobacco and belladonna also, from same family,
but as this really is my aria, then i also know, that these plants them self on much higher agenda, designed them self as a food for humans, and not for a good reasons but to keep us in delirium, ... this is shamanic domain, but people need to not jump to far, but think IN BEGINNING,
WHY would and HOW would a human become MASSIVE way domesticate WOLF who is not kind of animal, who has nature to domesticate and chill with different animals6 November 2016 23:32
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someitmes6 November 2016 23:29
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Well, i just wonder, how can someone from old times, and for WHAT reason, take a wolf, and ..start to feed them a gow milk and them change in to another species?
As You did not have nothing to mix wolf with..
Now, ye,s is easy to change when You got various types to mix but..6 November 2016 23:28
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It is like cannabis plant, one of the most used, most controversial plants in human history with most diverse benefit and uses.. and still, most of the planet has no idea what this plant is, is it good for human species or should better it be eliminated to save us from it.6 November 2016 23:23
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Good (i can see how someone believes that), and cats?6 November 2016 23:22
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People also believe that dogs come from Wolf's
and cats from.. cats.. .. from Egypt..6 November 2016 23:10
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And Vladimir final words:
"“All men lie to you. When they tell you that they love you, it’s a lie... All men hate you, ladies, they hate you. Because you prevent men from thriving… This is why all the crimes committed in the world are women’s fault.”
--
As always, you have to appreciate his candor, if nothing else. When the female interviewer asks if his wife is happy he doesn’t miss a beat. “Of course not. How could she be happy? I ignore her,” he says, as though the interviewer is a moron for asking such a stupid question.
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in 2006, Zhirinovsky proposed that polygamy be legalized in Russia.
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Often, it takes more than a dozen people to restrain him.
// likes the fact how guy next to him is smart and prepares to put hes classes away
https://youtu.be/pghilRQVG4I?t=151
But in looking another way, at least people are Alive
"“All men lie to you. When they tell you that they love you, it’s a lie... All men hate you, ladies, they hate you. Because you prevent men from thriving… This is why all the crimes committed in the world are women’s fault.”
--
As always, you have to appreciate his candor, if nothing else. When the female interviewer asks if his wife is happy he doesn’t miss a beat. “Of course not. How could she be happy? I ignore her,” he says, as though the interviewer is a moron for asking such a stupid question.
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in 2006, Zhirinovsky proposed that polygamy be legalized in Russia.
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Often, it takes more than a dozen people to restrain him.
// likes the fact how guy next to him is smart and prepares to put hes classes away
https://youtu.be/pghilRQVG4I?t=151
But in looking another way, at least people are Alive
https://youtu.be/pghilRQVG4I?t=151
6 November 2016 18:30
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When he ran for prime minister in 1993, his campaign promises included free vodka for men and better underwear for women. He’s throttled newscasters and state officials, told world leaders to suck Russian dick, and pontificated about enslaving the planet. A couple weeks ago, he called the Royal Baby a “bloodsucker,” but he’s said far, far worse things
6 November 2016 18:20
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... and then in Trump style:
about C. RIce
"“She is a black whore who needs a good cock. Send her here, one of our divisions will make her happy in the barracks one night. She will choke on Russian sperm as it will be leaking out of her ears... until she crawls to the US embassy in Moscow on her knees.”"
and in another time a bit longer:
"“Condoleezza Rice released a coarse anti-Russian statement. This is because she is a single woman who has no children. She loses her reason because of her late single status […] If she has no man by her side at her age, he will never appear. Even if she had a whole selection of men to choose from she would stay single because her soul and heart have hardened. Like Napoleon, Genghis Khan, Tamerlane, or Alexander the Great of Macedon, Ms. Rice needs to fight and release tough public statements in global scale […] Condoleezza Rice needs a company of soldiers. She needs to be taken to barracks where she would be satisfied. On the other hand, she can hardly be satisfied because of her age. This is a complex. She needs to return to her university and teach students there. She could also deal with psychological analysis.”
about C. RIce
"“She is a black whore who needs a good cock. Send her here, one of our divisions will make her happy in the barracks one night. She will choke on Russian sperm as it will be leaking out of her ears... until she crawls to the US embassy in Moscow on her knees.”"
and in another time a bit longer:
"“Condoleezza Rice released a coarse anti-Russian statement. This is because she is a single woman who has no children. She loses her reason because of her late single status […] If she has no man by her side at her age, he will never appear. Even if she had a whole selection of men to choose from she would stay single because her soul and heart have hardened. Like Napoleon, Genghis Khan, Tamerlane, or Alexander the Great of Macedon, Ms. Rice needs to fight and release tough public statements in global scale […] Condoleezza Rice needs a company of soldiers. She needs to be taken to barracks where she would be satisfied. On the other hand, she can hardly be satisfied because of her age. This is a complex. She needs to return to her university and teach students there. She could also deal with psychological analysis.”
6 November 2016 18:19
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"At night we will change gravitation a bit..."
Vice magazine: "With Zhirinovsky, you don’t get any fake smiles (or any smiles, period), or false promises, or two-faced diplomacy. He says what’s on his mind, even if what’s on his mind isn’t so much a political position as a violent, incoherent rant that can only be communicated through wild gestures. And that’s sort of endearing.."
Vice magazine: "With Zhirinovsky, you don’t get any fake smiles (or any smiles, period), or false promises, or two-faced diplomacy. He says what’s on his mind, even if what’s on his mind isn’t so much a political position as a violent, incoherent rant that can only be communicated through wild gestures. And that’s sort of endearing.."
6 November 2016 18:15
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Can turn on Automatic translation, will give an idea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5RpWUDbMUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5RpWUDbMUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5RpWUDbMUs
6 November 2016 18:12
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6 November 2016 18:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Topics and themes on what terms Russia is speaking (compare that to west now... Napolion and Stalin is on Air normally,)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRIqI7rk1zY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRIqI7rk1zY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRIqI7rk1zY
6 November 2016 18:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Of-course Translation is... as we heard almost none compared to real words
Colonel in the Russian army, Vice-Chairman of the State Duma (the lower house of Russia’s legislature), a member of the Parliamentary Assembly Council of Europe, and, most notably, the founder and leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia
Ужас! Жириновский в Ираке ! Про США и БУША! 2014 Новости Сегодня!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8Cz7mhkDm8
Copy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjgGElUFTB8
Colonel in the Russian army, Vice-Chairman of the State Duma (the lower house of Russia’s legislature), a member of the Parliamentary Assembly Council of Europe, and, most notably, the founder and leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia
Ужас! Жириновский в Ираке ! Про США и БУША! 2014 Новости Сегодня!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8Cz7mhkDm8
Copy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjgGElUFTB8
6 November 2016 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
almoust to raught otse mber nurga pööre uuesti teema juurde, kuid ikkagi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjObnc58fAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjObnc58fAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjObnc58fAM
6 November 2016 05:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yes it is on purpose to activate parallel paranoia also
to mess with singularity,
whatever is it, forward to clearer in better way
to mess with singularity,
whatever is it, forward to clearer in better way
6 November 2016 05:28
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6 November 2016 05:26
Margus Meigo replied to John L. Sokol's comment.
... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0HPDcu-Qdo ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0HPDcu-Qdo
6 November 2016 05:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Somewhere...
http://www.last.fm/music/Carbon+Based+Lifeforms/_/Somewhere+in+Russia
FSB (Russia)
http://www.last.fm/music/Carbon+Based+Lifeforms/_/Somewhere+in+Russia
FSB (Russia)
http://www.last.fm/music/Carbon+Based+Lifeforms/_/Somewhere+in+Russia
6 November 2016 05:21
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6 November 2016 04:54
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
jah, see ajatelg on neile, kes inimLoomise tasemetega ei tegele
5 November 2016 15:26
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5 November 2016 05:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Blue Republican
https://youtu.be/MY_YidNuP7c?t=1097
https://youtu.be/MY_YidNuP7c?t=1097
https://youtu.be/MY_YidNuP7c?t=1097
5 November 2016 05:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
Its about to get really unfunny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY22JySZ91Q&feature=iv&src_vid=hzobpSeZ3g0&annotation_id=video%3Apfc%3AEY22JySZ91Q
Its about to get really unfunny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY22JySZ91Q&feature=iv&src_vid=hzobpSeZ3g0&annotation_id=video%3Apfc%3AEY22JySZ91Q
5 November 2016 05:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
Учебная работа по режиссуре, ВГИК 2 курс мастерская С.А.Соловьева и В.Д.Рубинчика (S.A.Soloveva V.D.Rubinchika)
After me comes a flood
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I must go on standing
You can't break that which isn't yours
I must go on standing
I'm not my own, it's not my choice
Be afraid of the lame, they'll inherit your legs
Be afraid of the old, they'll inherit your souls
Be afraid of the cold, they'll inherit your blood
Après moi, le deluge, after me comes the flood
I must go on standing
You can't break that which isn't yours
I must go on standing
I'm not my own, it's not my choice
Be afraid of the lame, they'll inherit your legs
Be afraid of the old, they'll inherit your souls
Be afraid of the cold, they'll inherit your blood
Après moi le deluge, after me comes the flood
Февраль. Достать чернил и плакать!
Писать о феврале навзрыд,
Пока грохочущая слякоть
Весною чёрною горит.
Be afraid of the lame, they'll inherit your legs
Be afraid of the old, they'll inherit your souls
Be afraid of the cold, they'll inherit your blood
Après moi le deluge, after me comes the flood
I must go on standing
You can't break that which isn't yours
I must go on standing
I'm not my own, It's not my choice
I must go on stan-stan-ding-ding
You can't, can't break that, that
Which isn't, isn't yours, yours
I'm not, not my own, own
It's not, not my choice, choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzobpSeZ3g0
Stufdio version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbeHq1CLqJ8
Учебная работа по режиссуре, ВГИК 2 курс мастерская С.А.Соловьева и В.Д.Рубинчика (S.A.Soloveva V.D.Rubinchika)
After me comes a flood
-
I must go on standing
You can't break that which isn't yours
I must go on standing
I'm not my own, it's not my choice
Be afraid of the lame, they'll inherit your legs
Be afraid of the old, they'll inherit your souls
Be afraid of the cold, they'll inherit your blood
Après moi, le deluge, after me comes the flood
I must go on standing
You can't break that which isn't yours
I must go on standing
I'm not my own, it's not my choice
Be afraid of the lame, they'll inherit your legs
Be afraid of the old, they'll inherit your souls
Be afraid of the cold, they'll inherit your blood
Après moi le deluge, after me comes the flood
Февраль. Достать чернил и плакать!
Писать о феврале навзрыд,
Пока грохочущая слякоть
Весною чёрною горит.
Be afraid of the lame, they'll inherit your legs
Be afraid of the old, they'll inherit your souls
Be afraid of the cold, they'll inherit your blood
Après moi le deluge, after me comes the flood
I must go on standing
You can't break that which isn't yours
I must go on standing
I'm not my own, It's not my choice
I must go on stan-stan-ding-ding
You can't, can't break that, that
Which isn't, isn't yours, yours
I'm not, not my own, own
It's not, not my choice, choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzobpSeZ3g0
Stufdio version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbeHq1CLqJ8
5 November 2016 05:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Respect the Old as they inherit Your Soul, the nature, as they made You and Mother as She give You a LIfe/Wife
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Eisenmenger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Eisenmenger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Eisenmenger
5 November 2016 05:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Anyone who think i',m kind of not becoming to near trillionair€ (kind of) fails to understand me
5 November 2016 05:09
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5 November 2016 04:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
once more:
" “I believe there is a machinery of mass manipulation behind the UFO phenomenon. They are helping create a new belief system. They are designed to help change belief systems, and the technology we observe is only the incidental support for a worldwide enterprise of subliminal seduction. What we see here is not an alien invasion. It is a control system which acts on humans and uses humans. Human beings are under the control of a strange force that bends them in absurd ways, forcing them to play a role in a bizarre game of deception.”"
ufodigest.com/article/wizards-odd-and-alien-mask-evil
" “I believe there is a machinery of mass manipulation behind the UFO phenomenon. They are helping create a new belief system. They are designed to help change belief systems, and the technology we observe is only the incidental support for a worldwide enterprise of subliminal seduction. What we see here is not an alien invasion. It is a control system which acts on humans and uses humans. Human beings are under the control of a strange force that bends them in absurd ways, forcing them to play a role in a bizarre game of deception.”"
ufodigest.com/article/wizards-odd-and-alien-mask-evil
http://ufodigest.com/article/wizards-odd-and-alien-mask-evil
5 November 2016 04:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Have you ever seen any flying disks?
Jacques Vallee: I’ve seen things that shouldn’t have been there when I was tracking satellites at the Paris observatory. I saw them visually as part of a team, and that’s really what started my research. Obviously, I had heard of UFOs before then, but I always thought that if there were UFOs astronomers would see them and would tell us, but my first job as an astronomer left me disillusioned. I was part of a team that was tracking satellites for the French Space Committee. We found ourselves tracking objects that were not satellites, and were not anything else recognizable either. One night we got eleven data points on one of these objects on a magnetic tape and wanted to run the tape through a computer and compute an orbit and see the thing again. To this day, I can’t tell you that it wasn’t some piece of technology that somebody had. It could have been some very bizarre piece of human technology, but what intrigued me was that the man in charge of the project confiscated the tape and erased it. That’s really what got me started, because I suddenly realized that astronomers saw things that they did not report.
The important part of Confrontations is really in the last few chapters that deal with field investigations that Jeanine and I did in Brazil. We went to Brazil specifically to check stories of people being hurt by exposure to the light from UFOs. We spent about two weeks in the interior of the country going from village to village and talking to people. We just barely scratched the surface but in ten days we spoke with fifty people who had been hurt by those beams, some of whom had seen these objects just a week before we arrived.
Were they seeing the same kind of technological craft?
Jacques Vallee: Pretty much. There was a whole variety of objects, but the ones that emitted these beams were classic in terms of shape. They were boxy, rectangular objects that either didn’t make a noise or made nothing more than a hum, like the noise a refrigerator makes. They came over at night, and the beam was a light that not only burned them but pinned them down. When we asked people in Brazil about the phenomenon, we discovered that they didn’t see it as something that comes from another planet, but something that comes from another spiritual plane. That’s the way they put it, but they offered no further explanation than that. They seemed to be just as puzzled by it as a scientist would be. There was this one fellow who was blind and had developed psychic powers, and I tried to push him. I asked him what kind of spirits he thought he was encountering, but he was very straightforward and humble. He said he could invoke the gods of his tradition, but these things were something else. It was like, “yes, these things exist, but they are beyond my reach.”
In our culture, that explanation would be regarded as even more absurd than the activities of extraterrestrials.
Jacques Vallee: It is absurd, just like the explanations by our culture are absurd. But absurdity doesn’t mean meaningless. The absurd is a signal that has a property of taking you out of your normal thinking process and making you aware of other forms of thinking that you didn’t know existed. It’s forcing you to perceive reality at a different level. Zen koans, for example, are absurd, but they are intended to be absurd in a way that stops your normal thinking process. They make you aware of your mental process by stopping it.
And what type of mental state is that creating in these villagers?
Jacques Vallee: Terror. The day after an encounter witnesses were very often extremely weak and could hardly walk. They would be taken to a doctor if there was a doctor close by. I spoke with some of the doctors, one of whom had treated thirty-five such cases in the mouth of the Amazon.
What do you think of that? That’s such a concentrated activity in one area.
Jacques Vallee: You find the same thing right now in the Soviet Union, but nobody will talk about it.
Were people getting hit by beams of light in the Soviet Union?
Jacques Vallee: Yes, but I have not heard of cases with actual injuries in the Soviet Union although I have heard of reports of beams melting the asphalt. I spent a week with a French journalist in the Soviet Union just six weeks ago. We heard about a case in January where an object hovered close to the ground and a beam came out and melted the asphalt in front of a nuclear power plant in Viljandi? Vlorë?. Varanage is not a little city lost in the snow somewhere. It is a city twice the size of San Francisco. It’s a major industrial center.
The Western newspapers gave the impression that the witnesses were kids. Well, there were some sightings by kids, but there was a total of over a thousand witnesses in Varanage. In one of these sightings, an object hovered at rooftop level close to some apartment buildings for a long period of time and was seen by five hundred people, most of them adults. There is a very intense concentration of cases around that area, and of course, this has been sensationalized by the Soviets themselves. It’s hard to tell now which reports are real and which are not.
There were many cases with entities described that were not like the cover of Communion. Some entities were described as very small and some were described as very tall.
Jacques Vallee: I’ve seen things that shouldn’t have been there when I was tracking satellites at the Paris observatory. I saw them visually as part of a team, and that’s really what started my research. Obviously, I had heard of UFOs before then, but I always thought that if there were UFOs astronomers would see them and would tell us, but my first job as an astronomer left me disillusioned. I was part of a team that was tracking satellites for the French Space Committee. We found ourselves tracking objects that were not satellites, and were not anything else recognizable either. One night we got eleven data points on one of these objects on a magnetic tape and wanted to run the tape through a computer and compute an orbit and see the thing again. To this day, I can’t tell you that it wasn’t some piece of technology that somebody had. It could have been some very bizarre piece of human technology, but what intrigued me was that the man in charge of the project confiscated the tape and erased it. That’s really what got me started, because I suddenly realized that astronomers saw things that they did not report.
The important part of Confrontations is really in the last few chapters that deal with field investigations that Jeanine and I did in Brazil. We went to Brazil specifically to check stories of people being hurt by exposure to the light from UFOs. We spent about two weeks in the interior of the country going from village to village and talking to people. We just barely scratched the surface but in ten days we spoke with fifty people who had been hurt by those beams, some of whom had seen these objects just a week before we arrived.
Were they seeing the same kind of technological craft?
Jacques Vallee: Pretty much. There was a whole variety of objects, but the ones that emitted these beams were classic in terms of shape. They were boxy, rectangular objects that either didn’t make a noise or made nothing more than a hum, like the noise a refrigerator makes. They came over at night, and the beam was a light that not only burned them but pinned them down. When we asked people in Brazil about the phenomenon, we discovered that they didn’t see it as something that comes from another planet, but something that comes from another spiritual plane. That’s the way they put it, but they offered no further explanation than that. They seemed to be just as puzzled by it as a scientist would be. There was this one fellow who was blind and had developed psychic powers, and I tried to push him. I asked him what kind of spirits he thought he was encountering, but he was very straightforward and humble. He said he could invoke the gods of his tradition, but these things were something else. It was like, “yes, these things exist, but they are beyond my reach.”
In our culture, that explanation would be regarded as even more absurd than the activities of extraterrestrials.
Jacques Vallee: It is absurd, just like the explanations by our culture are absurd. But absurdity doesn’t mean meaningless. The absurd is a signal that has a property of taking you out of your normal thinking process and making you aware of other forms of thinking that you didn’t know existed. It’s forcing you to perceive reality at a different level. Zen koans, for example, are absurd, but they are intended to be absurd in a way that stops your normal thinking process. They make you aware of your mental process by stopping it.
And what type of mental state is that creating in these villagers?
Jacques Vallee: Terror. The day after an encounter witnesses were very often extremely weak and could hardly walk. They would be taken to a doctor if there was a doctor close by. I spoke with some of the doctors, one of whom had treated thirty-five such cases in the mouth of the Amazon.
What do you think of that? That’s such a concentrated activity in one area.
Jacques Vallee: You find the same thing right now in the Soviet Union, but nobody will talk about it.
Were people getting hit by beams of light in the Soviet Union?
Jacques Vallee: Yes, but I have not heard of cases with actual injuries in the Soviet Union although I have heard of reports of beams melting the asphalt. I spent a week with a French journalist in the Soviet Union just six weeks ago. We heard about a case in January where an object hovered close to the ground and a beam came out and melted the asphalt in front of a nuclear power plant in Viljandi? Vlorë?. Varanage is not a little city lost in the snow somewhere. It is a city twice the size of San Francisco. It’s a major industrial center.
The Western newspapers gave the impression that the witnesses were kids. Well, there were some sightings by kids, but there was a total of over a thousand witnesses in Varanage. In one of these sightings, an object hovered at rooftop level close to some apartment buildings for a long period of time and was seen by five hundred people, most of them adults. There is a very intense concentration of cases around that area, and of course, this has been sensationalized by the Soviets themselves. It’s hard to tell now which reports are real and which are not.
There were many cases with entities described that were not like the cover of Communion. Some entities were described as very small and some were described as very tall.
5 November 2016 04:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Are you finding in the cases that you’ve studied since Communion came out that a greater preponderance of people are seeing that type of being?
Jacques Vallee: Yes, but I’ve recently been looking at other cases in which the beings were radically different. Again, I use the word “beings” in quotes because we don’t really know what they are.
As we approach the millennium, I would expect that we’ll see phenomena reported that far exceed anything that we’ve seen yet if for no other reason because people expect things to change, and that expectation itself is fertile ground for these changes to occur.
Jacques Vallee: I think the way that we get into trouble studying UFOs is that we mix up the different levels involved. We mix up the physical level, the psychological level, and the mythological or social level. I want to clearly identify these three levels because we need a different type of mythology to deal with each level and each set of events. At the physical level, all we know now is that there are material, physical objects, at least part of the time. They leave traces; they interact with the environment; they throw off heat and light and probably pulse microwaves in very interesting ways. They contain a great deal of energy. I’ve included some energy calculations in Confrontations.
I think we’ve made a lot of progress in the last few years in understanding the psychological and physiological level. There are some very clear patterns that range from sunburns to conjunctivitis. Sometimes temporary blindness occurs. Sometimes witnesses report a form of paralysis in which they have no control of their muscles during the time when the object is there. I think this has obvious medical implications that are very interesting. The witnesses are often disoriented. In Confrontations, I cite a case I investigated in which the people thought they were driving north when they were driving south. Such confusion in space and time too often contributes to scientists concluding that the witnesses aren’t reliable. We don’t know a lot about the effect of pulsed microwaves on the human brain. One effect might be hallucinations. You may end up having witnesses telling you incredible stories because they were subjected to very strange psychological side effects of something that was really there. I don’t think that most of the UFO community is ready to deal with that. And I don’t think the scientific community is ready to deal with that. Then there is a third level, the mythological or sociological level. At that level, the physical reality of the actual UFO is totally irrelevant. Proving that Jesus Christ never existed would have little effect on our society in terms of belief systems; at this point, the influence of Jesus would remain even without a historical Jesus.
Why did you decide to concentrate on so many case studies? We have thousands of case studies. What good is a hundred more going to do?
Jacques Vallee: I think that’s a fair question. Number one, I didn’t publish all the case studies. I just published selected ones that illustrate certain points. What I wanted to do was to start gradually from the physical side by focusing on cases that involved physical traces. What I wanted to do was to go back to basics, proceed step-by-step, and find out what we know about the phenomenon. To do this, I concentrated on cases that no scientist can refute. The first case in the body of the book is a case in which there were two French submarines anchored in the harbor at Martinique. The submarine tender and all the sailors and officers saw an object that came over the harbor and made three large loops before vanishing from the spot only to reappear five-minutes later. It then did the whole thing in reverse and went away. There were something like two hundred and fifty witnesses. I’ve had several personal conversations with one of the witnesses who was the first helmsman of the French fleet of the Mediterranean. He was somebody who had very good eyesight, and was a darn good observer. Not only did he see this, but he had time to go up to the tower and come back with six pairs of binoculars that he gave to his fellow officers. All of them watched the thing through binoculars. There is also a weather observatory on the hill overlooking the harbor, and all the people in the weather observatory saw it. You can’t say that this didn’t happen. You can’t say that it was a meteor or a comet or any of that. I’m trying to use cases like that to establish the physical reality of a phenomenon, and then continue from there.
I also selected cases where I went to the site expecting to find something that would be easy to dismiss only to find a complex set of circumstances that ultimately led me to the conclusion that it was a real UFO case after all. I also included cases where I expected to find evidence pointing to a real UFO and found, instead, a trivial explanation. And, finally, there are cases where, frankly, I don’t know what happened.
It would seem, in a sense that you are creating your own filtrating mechanism – selecting those case studies that do seem to establish patterns while discarding others irrelevant to your analysis.
Jacques Vallee: Let me clarify what I did. The cases I selected were chosen not because they said something about UFOs, but because they said something specifically about methodology. The question I was trying to answer was: How do we go about investigating those things, given the unique characteristics of the phenomenon? I purposefully selected cases of one type or another to illustrate the complexity of this kind of research. I think the main message that I wanted to get across is that, even after you’ve spent five or ten-thousand dollars investigating a case, you may not know anymore than you did at the beginning. I think that’s something important for people to realize.
Jacques Vallee: Yes, but I’ve recently been looking at other cases in which the beings were radically different. Again, I use the word “beings” in quotes because we don’t really know what they are.
As we approach the millennium, I would expect that we’ll see phenomena reported that far exceed anything that we’ve seen yet if for no other reason because people expect things to change, and that expectation itself is fertile ground for these changes to occur.
Jacques Vallee: I think the way that we get into trouble studying UFOs is that we mix up the different levels involved. We mix up the physical level, the psychological level, and the mythological or social level. I want to clearly identify these three levels because we need a different type of mythology to deal with each level and each set of events. At the physical level, all we know now is that there are material, physical objects, at least part of the time. They leave traces; they interact with the environment; they throw off heat and light and probably pulse microwaves in very interesting ways. They contain a great deal of energy. I’ve included some energy calculations in Confrontations.
I think we’ve made a lot of progress in the last few years in understanding the psychological and physiological level. There are some very clear patterns that range from sunburns to conjunctivitis. Sometimes temporary blindness occurs. Sometimes witnesses report a form of paralysis in which they have no control of their muscles during the time when the object is there. I think this has obvious medical implications that are very interesting. The witnesses are often disoriented. In Confrontations, I cite a case I investigated in which the people thought they were driving north when they were driving south. Such confusion in space and time too often contributes to scientists concluding that the witnesses aren’t reliable. We don’t know a lot about the effect of pulsed microwaves on the human brain. One effect might be hallucinations. You may end up having witnesses telling you incredible stories because they were subjected to very strange psychological side effects of something that was really there. I don’t think that most of the UFO community is ready to deal with that. And I don’t think the scientific community is ready to deal with that. Then there is a third level, the mythological or sociological level. At that level, the physical reality of the actual UFO is totally irrelevant. Proving that Jesus Christ never existed would have little effect on our society in terms of belief systems; at this point, the influence of Jesus would remain even without a historical Jesus.
Why did you decide to concentrate on so many case studies? We have thousands of case studies. What good is a hundred more going to do?
Jacques Vallee: I think that’s a fair question. Number one, I didn’t publish all the case studies. I just published selected ones that illustrate certain points. What I wanted to do was to start gradually from the physical side by focusing on cases that involved physical traces. What I wanted to do was to go back to basics, proceed step-by-step, and find out what we know about the phenomenon. To do this, I concentrated on cases that no scientist can refute. The first case in the body of the book is a case in which there were two French submarines anchored in the harbor at Martinique. The submarine tender and all the sailors and officers saw an object that came over the harbor and made three large loops before vanishing from the spot only to reappear five-minutes later. It then did the whole thing in reverse and went away. There were something like two hundred and fifty witnesses. I’ve had several personal conversations with one of the witnesses who was the first helmsman of the French fleet of the Mediterranean. He was somebody who had very good eyesight, and was a darn good observer. Not only did he see this, but he had time to go up to the tower and come back with six pairs of binoculars that he gave to his fellow officers. All of them watched the thing through binoculars. There is also a weather observatory on the hill overlooking the harbor, and all the people in the weather observatory saw it. You can’t say that this didn’t happen. You can’t say that it was a meteor or a comet or any of that. I’m trying to use cases like that to establish the physical reality of a phenomenon, and then continue from there.
I also selected cases where I went to the site expecting to find something that would be easy to dismiss only to find a complex set of circumstances that ultimately led me to the conclusion that it was a real UFO case after all. I also included cases where I expected to find evidence pointing to a real UFO and found, instead, a trivial explanation. And, finally, there are cases where, frankly, I don’t know what happened.
It would seem, in a sense that you are creating your own filtrating mechanism – selecting those case studies that do seem to establish patterns while discarding others irrelevant to your analysis.
Jacques Vallee: Let me clarify what I did. The cases I selected were chosen not because they said something about UFOs, but because they said something specifically about methodology. The question I was trying to answer was: How do we go about investigating those things, given the unique characteristics of the phenomenon? I purposefully selected cases of one type or another to illustrate the complexity of this kind of research. I think the main message that I wanted to get across is that, even after you’ve spent five or ten-thousand dollars investigating a case, you may not know anymore than you did at the beginning. I think that’s something important for people to realize.
5 November 2016 04:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
What’s interesting is that the people that did see it would see the same thing, would they not? Or does that vary?
Jacques Vallee: Usually there is a consensus on the major aspects of the physical parameters of it, but people can disagree on, for example, when there is interaction with entities. Different people may be perceiving different things.
Plus, after you see something like that, you build consensus by an interactive process. You start matching things together.
Jacques Vallee: But there is a social, mythological aspect to it also, and that can be very tricky. I think it’s important to bring this out so that people can be alerted to it, especially since the publication of Communion. There was a major marketing effort behind Communion which proved to be very successful. True, it’s a powerful book, but Communion has also touched people who have never even read it because it also has a powerful cover. That face on the cover has become our society’s standard for what aliens are supposed to look like. This standard has reached the point where any witness that doesn’t report something that looks like the cover of Communion is dismissed as a hoaxer. People who see things that don’t look like the cover tend not to be believed by Ufologists. Those sightings are not followed up, and they don’t go into the database. So, scientific analysis tends to retrieve more and more patterns that correspond to those patterns that we expect in the first place. There’s a self-fulfilling prophecy involved which is very tricky.
Jacques Vallee: Usually there is a consensus on the major aspects of the physical parameters of it, but people can disagree on, for example, when there is interaction with entities. Different people may be perceiving different things.
Plus, after you see something like that, you build consensus by an interactive process. You start matching things together.
Jacques Vallee: But there is a social, mythological aspect to it also, and that can be very tricky. I think it’s important to bring this out so that people can be alerted to it, especially since the publication of Communion. There was a major marketing effort behind Communion which proved to be very successful. True, it’s a powerful book, but Communion has also touched people who have never even read it because it also has a powerful cover. That face on the cover has become our society’s standard for what aliens are supposed to look like. This standard has reached the point where any witness that doesn’t report something that looks like the cover of Communion is dismissed as a hoaxer. People who see things that don’t look like the cover tend not to be believed by Ufologists. Those sightings are not followed up, and they don’t go into the database. So, scientific analysis tends to retrieve more and more patterns that correspond to those patterns that we expect in the first place. There’s a self-fulfilling prophecy involved which is very tricky.
5 November 2016 04:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jacques Vallee: People assumed I had gone off to a mountaintop to philosophize. The reason that I dropped out of the UFO scene is that I wanted to do UFO investigations, and I was tired of going to meetings where the same things were continually rehashed. What it came down to was just a lot of talk. I think we’re a long way from understanding this phenomenon, and the only way we’re going to understand it is to stop talking to each other, and go back and talk to the witnesses. That’s what I wanted to do, and I wanted to do it first-hand. I wanted to be able to go to the site, meet the witnesses, and monitor what was happening over a certain period of time. So, I put the highest priority on first-hand cases that had not been reported to the press or to the UFO community because the moment the cases become part of ongoing discussion, they get polarized: the witnesses are bombarded with all kinds of questions; there are biases; the ego gets into it. I wanted to do a quiet kind of long-term research. In ten years, I accumulated over two hundred such cases. The book is really a summary of the more interesting of these cases.
And how were you contacted about these cases?
Jacques Vallee: Usually, through people who have attended my lectures or have read my books. I get several letters everyday now prompted by Dimensions, even though it’s a year old. I pick the most interesting letters which, to me, are often from people who have a very visible position in life such as one from a vice-president of IBM. The last thing he wanted to do was to go to a UFO organization. He didn’t want any publicity; he didn’t want to see his name in any book, but he had a sighting which was very valid.
What conclusions has your research led you to?
Jacques Vallee: I feel that I could go before a committee of scientists and convince them that there is overwhelming evidence that the UFO phenomena exists and that it is an unrecognized, unexplained phenomenon for science, but something that I think I could prove. My personal contention is that the phenomenon is the result of an intelligence that it is a technology directed by an intelligence, and that this intelligence is capable of manipulating space and time in ways that we don’t understand. I could convince a committee of my peers that the phenomenon is real, that it is physical, and that we don’t understand it. I could not convince them that my speculation is correct; there may be alternative speculations. The essential conclusion I’m tending to is that the origin of the phenomenon of the intelligence is not necessarily extraterrestrial.
Would you say you tend toward a multi-dimensional interpretation that doesn’t specify that these have to be some kind of humanoid-type creatures from another planet coming to earth physically? It seems that sometimes you talk about this phenomenon as being a kind of religious sentiment that wells up from the human spirit. At other times, you speak as though there’s a potentially harmful force that is being imposed from without as a control system.
Jacques Vallee: Certainly. I think it’s an opportunity to learn something very fundamental about the universe because, not only is the phenomenon or technology capable of manipulating space and time in ways that we don’t understand, it’s manipulating the psychic environment of the witness. I tried to introduce that idea when I wrote Invisible College. At that time, the UFO community was not ready for it. The New Age and the parapsychology communities interpreted my conclusion to mean that UFOs are devas from the dream world – that they are not physical, or that the physical aspect is unimportant. In truth, I think we are dealing with something that is both technological and psychic, and seems to be able to manipulate other dimensions.
This is neither wishful thinking nor personal speculation on my part. It’s a conclusion that comes from interviewing critical witnesses, and then listening to what they have to say. And what they have to say is not that they’ve seen space craft coming down from the sky and then returning to the sky. More often, what they have reported is that they have seen something appear on the spot, take on a physical shape, sometimes even changing shape, and then disappear, sometimes faster than the eye can trace. On occasion, it will disappear in a closed space by either becoming transparent and then vanishing or by concentrating into a single point. An example that’s often given is like turning off a television set; the image goes “zoom!” to a single point.
I don’t have a good explanation for the question of why the technology seems to appear in a form that uses images from our own unconscious. I’d be kidding if I said that I understand that. There are cases of repeated observations where the phenomenon begins by being amorphous and then starts matching the expectations of the witnesses. There are two ways to deal intellectually with that: One is to say it’s a phenomenon of the brain which is very good at reading recognizable images in amorphous things like clouds and ink blots. So, perhaps the witnesses are getting used to this phenomenon and are starting to read things into it. But that’s not the only explanation. It may be that the phenomenon itself is using our reactions to it in order to turn into something that we expect or understand. We may be carrying a matrix of imagery that it somehow picks up. A good example of that is Fatima. The apparitions witnessed at Fatima did not start in 1917. They started two years before. Some of the same kids were involved, and there were also other witnesses. What they saw was a globe of light. Then they saw a globe of light with some type of being inside. Then they started calling the being an angel, and then the angel started communicating with them and gave them a prayer. It developed in stages, and culminated in 1917, but even then the virgin Mary wasn’t seen by everyone who was present.
In contemporary UFO cases, you also have objects that are seen by part of the crowd but not by others. I was doing a radio program about a year ago, and somebody called from Sacramento and gave me exactly that type of report. He had been near a lake with his family, and he witnessed an object come over the lake and there were people around him that saw it, and there were people that just couldn’t see it. What we’re dealing with is a very interesting phenomenon that has both psychic aspects and physical aspects.
www.ourstrangeplanet.com/the-san-luis-valley/guest-editorials/jacques-vallee-interview/
And how were you contacted about these cases?
Jacques Vallee: Usually, through people who have attended my lectures or have read my books. I get several letters everyday now prompted by Dimensions, even though it’s a year old. I pick the most interesting letters which, to me, are often from people who have a very visible position in life such as one from a vice-president of IBM. The last thing he wanted to do was to go to a UFO organization. He didn’t want any publicity; he didn’t want to see his name in any book, but he had a sighting which was very valid.
What conclusions has your research led you to?
Jacques Vallee: I feel that I could go before a committee of scientists and convince them that there is overwhelming evidence that the UFO phenomena exists and that it is an unrecognized, unexplained phenomenon for science, but something that I think I could prove. My personal contention is that the phenomenon is the result of an intelligence that it is a technology directed by an intelligence, and that this intelligence is capable of manipulating space and time in ways that we don’t understand. I could convince a committee of my peers that the phenomenon is real, that it is physical, and that we don’t understand it. I could not convince them that my speculation is correct; there may be alternative speculations. The essential conclusion I’m tending to is that the origin of the phenomenon of the intelligence is not necessarily extraterrestrial.
Would you say you tend toward a multi-dimensional interpretation that doesn’t specify that these have to be some kind of humanoid-type creatures from another planet coming to earth physically? It seems that sometimes you talk about this phenomenon as being a kind of religious sentiment that wells up from the human spirit. At other times, you speak as though there’s a potentially harmful force that is being imposed from without as a control system.
Jacques Vallee: Certainly. I think it’s an opportunity to learn something very fundamental about the universe because, not only is the phenomenon or technology capable of manipulating space and time in ways that we don’t understand, it’s manipulating the psychic environment of the witness. I tried to introduce that idea when I wrote Invisible College. At that time, the UFO community was not ready for it. The New Age and the parapsychology communities interpreted my conclusion to mean that UFOs are devas from the dream world – that they are not physical, or that the physical aspect is unimportant. In truth, I think we are dealing with something that is both technological and psychic, and seems to be able to manipulate other dimensions.
This is neither wishful thinking nor personal speculation on my part. It’s a conclusion that comes from interviewing critical witnesses, and then listening to what they have to say. And what they have to say is not that they’ve seen space craft coming down from the sky and then returning to the sky. More often, what they have reported is that they have seen something appear on the spot, take on a physical shape, sometimes even changing shape, and then disappear, sometimes faster than the eye can trace. On occasion, it will disappear in a closed space by either becoming transparent and then vanishing or by concentrating into a single point. An example that’s often given is like turning off a television set; the image goes “zoom!” to a single point.
I don’t have a good explanation for the question of why the technology seems to appear in a form that uses images from our own unconscious. I’d be kidding if I said that I understand that. There are cases of repeated observations where the phenomenon begins by being amorphous and then starts matching the expectations of the witnesses. There are two ways to deal intellectually with that: One is to say it’s a phenomenon of the brain which is very good at reading recognizable images in amorphous things like clouds and ink blots. So, perhaps the witnesses are getting used to this phenomenon and are starting to read things into it. But that’s not the only explanation. It may be that the phenomenon itself is using our reactions to it in order to turn into something that we expect or understand. We may be carrying a matrix of imagery that it somehow picks up. A good example of that is Fatima. The apparitions witnessed at Fatima did not start in 1917. They started two years before. Some of the same kids were involved, and there were also other witnesses. What they saw was a globe of light. Then they saw a globe of light with some type of being inside. Then they started calling the being an angel, and then the angel started communicating with them and gave them a prayer. It developed in stages, and culminated in 1917, but even then the virgin Mary wasn’t seen by everyone who was present.
In contemporary UFO cases, you also have objects that are seen by part of the crowd but not by others. I was doing a radio program about a year ago, and somebody called from Sacramento and gave me exactly that type of report. He had been near a lake with his family, and he witnessed an object come over the lake and there were people around him that saw it, and there were people that just couldn’t see it. What we’re dealing with is a very interesting phenomenon that has both psychic aspects and physical aspects.
www.ourstrangeplanet.com/the-san-luis-valley/guest-editorials/jacques-vallee-interview/
http://www.ourstrangeplanet.com/the-san-luis-valley/guest-editorials/jacques-vallee-interview/
5 November 2016 04:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Well, so lets see what Clinton will do : )
5 November 2016 04:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
A venture capitalist since 1982, Vallée has co-founded four venture capital funds, notably the Euro-America family of venture partnerships, specializing in high technology. As a general partner in these funds, he has spearheaded early-stage investments in over 60 startup companies, 18 of which have become traded on the public markets, either through IPOs or acquisitions. They include:
Accuray Systems (Nasdaq:ARAY) a medical device company developing surgical robots
Sangstat Medical (acquired by Genzyme) specialized in organ transplantation therapy
Mercury Interactive (acquired in 2006 by HP) a software testing company
Electronics for Imaging (Nasdaq:EFII)
Harmonic Lightwaves (Nasdaq:HLIT)
Class Data Systems (acquired by Cisco)
Ubique (acquired by AOL)
Mobilian (acquired by Intel)
Nanogram Devices (acquired by Greatbatch) a nanotechnology battery manufacturer.
UFO research and academic work[edit]
In May 1955, Vallée first sighted an unidentified flying object over his Pontoise home. Six years later in 1961, while working on the staff of the French Space Committee, Vallée witnessed the destruction of the tracking tapes of an unknown object orbiting the earth. The particular object was a retrograde satellite – that is, a satellite orbiting the earth in the opposite direction to the earth's rotation. At the time he observed this, there were no rockets powerful enough to launch such a satellite, so the team was quite excited as they assumed that the Earth's gravity had captured a natural satellite (asteroid). A superior came and erased the tape. These events contributed to Vallée's long-standing interest in the UFO phenomenon.
In the mid-1960s, like many other UFO researchers, Vallée initially attempted to validate the popular Extraterrestrial Hypothesis (or ETH). Leading UFO researcher Jerome Clark[5] argues that Vallée's first two UFO books were among the most scientifically sophisticated defenses of the ETH ever mounted.
However, by 1969, Vallée's conclusions had changed, and he publicly stated that the ETH was too narrow and ignored too much data. Vallée began exploring the commonalities between UFOs, cults, religious movements, demons, angels, ghosts, cryptid sightings, and psychic phenomena. Speculation about these potential links were first detailed in Vallée's third UFO book, Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers.
As an alternative to the extraterrestrial visitation hypothesis, Vallée has suggested a multidimensional visitation hypothesis. This hypothesis represents an extension of the ETH where the alleged extraterrestrials could be potentially from anywhere. The entities could be multidimensional beyond space-time, and thus could coexist with humans, yet remain undetected.
Vallée's opposition to the popular ETH was not well received by prominent U.S. ufologists, hence he was viewed as something of an outcast. Indeed, Vallée refers to himself as a "heretic among heretics".
Vallée's opposition to the ETH theory is summarised in his paper, "Five Arguments Against the Extraterrestrial Origin of Unidentified Flying Objects", Journal of Scientific Exploration, 1990:
Scientific opinion has generally followed public opinion in the belief that unidentified flying objects either do not exist (the "natural phenomena hypothesis") or, if they do, must represent evidence of a visitation by some advanced race of space travellers (the extraterrestrial hypothesis or "ETH"). It is the view of the author that research on UFOs need not be restricted to these two alternatives. On the contrary, the accumulated data base exhibits several patterns tending to indicate that UFOs are real, represent a previously unrecognized phenomenon, and that the facts do not support the common concept of "space visitors." Five specific arguments articulated here contradict the ETH:
unexplained close encounters are far more numerous than required for any physical survey of the earth;
the humanoid body structure of the alleged "aliens" is not likely to have originated on another planet and is not biologically adapted to space travel;
the reported behavior in thousands of abduction reports contradicts the hypothesis of genetic or scientific experimentation on humans by an advanced race;
the extension of the phenomenon throughout recorded human history demonstrates that UFOs are not a contemporary phenomenon; and
the apparent ability of UFOs to manipulate space and time suggests radically different and richer alternatives.
Vallée has contributed to the investigation of the Miracle at Fatima and Marian apparitions. His work has been used to support the Fatima UFO Hypothesis. Vallée is one of the first people to speculate publicly about the possibility that the "solar dance" at Fatima was a UFO. The idea of UFOs was not unknown in 1917, but most of the people in attendance at the Fatima apparitions would not have attributed the claimed phenomena there to UFOs, let alone to extraterrestrials. Vallée has also speculated about the possibility that other religious apparitions may have been the result of UFO activity including Our Lady of Lourdes and the revelations to Joseph Smith. Vallée and other researchers have advocated further study of unusual phenomena in the academic community. They don't believe that this should be handled solely by theologians.
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UFO research and academic work[edit]
In May 1955, Vallée first sighted an unidentified flying object over his Pontoise home. Six years later in 1961, while working on the staff of the French Space Committee, Vallée witnessed the destruction of the tracking tapes of an unknown object orbiting the earth. The particular object was a retrograde satellite – that is, a satellite orbiting the earth in the opposite direction to the earth's rotation. At the time he observed this, there were no rockets powerful enough to launch such a satellite, so the team was quite excited as they assumed that the Earth's gravity had captured a natural satellite (asteroid). A superior came and erased the tape. These events contributed to Vallée's long-standing interest in the UFO phenomenon.
In the mid-1960s, like many other UFO researchers, Vallée initially attempted to validate the popular Extraterrestrial Hypothesis (or ETH). Leading UFO researcher Jerome Clark[5] argues that Vallée's first two UFO books were among the most scientifically sophisticated defenses of the ETH ever mounted.
However, by 1969, Vallée's conclusions had changed, and he publicly stated that the ETH was too narrow and ignored too much data. Vallée began exploring the commonalities between UFOs, cults, religious movements, demons, angels, ghosts, cryptid sightings, and psychic phenomena. Speculation about these potential links were first detailed in Vallée's third UFO book, Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers.
As an alternative to the extraterrestrial visitation hypothesis, Vallée has suggested a multidimensional visitation hypothesis. This hypothesis represents an extension of the ETH where the alleged extraterrestrials could be potentially from anywhere. The entities could be multidimensional beyond space-time, and thus could coexist with humans, yet remain undetected.
Vallée's opposition to the popular ETH was not well received by prominent U.S. ufologists, hence he was viewed as something of an outcast. Indeed, Vallée refers to himself as a "heretic among heretics".
Vallée's opposition to the ETH theory is summarised in his paper, "Five Arguments Against the Extraterrestrial Origin of Unidentified Flying Objects", Journal of Scientific Exploration, 1990:
Scientific opinion has generally followed public opinion in the belief that unidentified flying objects either do not exist (the "natural phenomena hypothesis") or, if they do, must represent evidence of a visitation by some advanced race of space travellers (the extraterrestrial hypothesis or "ETH"). It is the view of the author that research on UFOs need not be restricted to these two alternatives. On the contrary, the accumulated data base exhibits several patterns tending to indicate that UFOs are real, represent a previously unrecognized phenomenon, and that the facts do not support the common concept of "space visitors." Five specific arguments articulated here contradict the ETH:
unexplained close encounters are far more numerous than required for any physical survey of the earth;
the humanoid body structure of the alleged "aliens" is not likely to have originated on another planet and is not biologically adapted to space travel;
the reported behavior in thousands of abduction reports contradicts the hypothesis of genetic or scientific experimentation on humans by an advanced race;
the extension of the phenomenon throughout recorded human history demonstrates that UFOs are not a contemporary phenomenon; and
the apparent ability of UFOs to manipulate space and time suggests radically different and richer alternatives.
Vallée has contributed to the investigation of the Miracle at Fatima and Marian apparitions. His work has been used to support the Fatima UFO Hypothesis. Vallée is one of the first people to speculate publicly about the possibility that the "solar dance" at Fatima was a UFO. The idea of UFOs was not unknown in 1917, but most of the people in attendance at the Fatima apparitions would not have attributed the claimed phenomena there to UFOs, let alone to extraterrestrials. Vallée has also speculated about the possibility that other religious apparitions may have been the result of UFO activity including Our Lady of Lourdes and the revelations to Joseph Smith. Vallée and other researchers have advocated further study of unusual phenomena in the academic community. They don't believe that this should be handled solely by theologians.
5 November 2016 04:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but yea:
Jacques Fabrice Vallée (French: [vale]; born September 24, 1939) is a venture capitalist, computer scientist, author, ufologist and former astronomer currently residing in San Francisco, California.
In mainstream science, Vallée is notable for co-developing the first computerized mapping of Mars for NASA and for his work at SRI International on the network information center for the ARPANET, a precursor to the modern Internet. Vallée is also an important figure in the study of unidentified flying objects (UFOs), first noted for a defense of the scientific legitimacy of the extraterrestrial hypothesis and later for promoting the interdimensional hypothesis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vall%C3%A9e
Jacques Fabrice Vallée (French: [vale]; born September 24, 1939) is a venture capitalist, computer scientist, author, ufologist and former astronomer currently residing in San Francisco, California.
In mainstream science, Vallée is notable for co-developing the first computerized mapping of Mars for NASA and for his work at SRI International on the network information center for the ARPANET, a precursor to the modern Internet. Vallée is also an important figure in the study of unidentified flying objects (UFOs), first noted for a defense of the scientific legitimacy of the extraterrestrial hypothesis and later for promoting the interdimensional hypothesis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vall%C3%A9e
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vall%C3%A9e
5 November 2016 04:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and even on TedX luckily
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9pR0gfil_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9pR0gfil_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9pR0gfil_0
5 November 2016 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
also tip in to this a bit..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB6uPBCVNPc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB6uPBCVNPc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB6uPBCVNPc
5 November 2016 04:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Coast to Coast... with...
important one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YfBdFTlEUA
important one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YfBdFTlEUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YfBdFTlEUA
5 November 2016 04:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Memory can be implanted, easy
supper easy to understand what and how is mind..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT1RMtFG19k
supper easy to understand what and how is mind..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT1RMtFG19k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT1RMtFG19k
5 November 2016 04:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Excerpts from...
"Messengers of Deception"
by Jacques Vallee
1979
from VirtuallyStrange Website
[...] Scientific analysis will undoubtedly provide part of the truth about UFOs; however, I no longer believe it will lead to the whole truth. I owe this realization to a man I shall call “Major Murphy,” although his actual rank is much higher than that of Major. He taught me a lesson I am not likely to forget.
Major Murphy, who retired from a U.S. Intelligence service quite a few years ago, had seen action in World War II in Italy, and also described vividly his investigations in the Caribbean, where he organized efforts to intercept submarines and German spies on their way to the United States.
I met him at a gathering of UFO contactees and suggested a drink when it was over. I expressed my surprise at his interest in the event, which I had regarded as a complete waste of time. He asked me to clarify this judgment, and I said that in my opinion none of the people in attendance knew anything about science.
Then he posed a question that, obvious as it seems, had not really occurred to me:
“What makes you think that UFOs are a scientific problem?”
I replied with something to the effect that a problem was only scientific in the way it was approached, but he would have none of that, and he began lecturing me. First, he said, science had certain rules. For example, it has to assume that the phenomenon it is observing is natural in origin rather than artificial and possibly biased.
Now, the UFO phenomenon could be controlled by alien beings.
“If it is,” added the Major, “then the study of it doesn’t belong in science. It belongs in Intelligence.”
MEANING COUNTERESPIONAGE. And that, he pointed out, was his domain.
“Now, in the field of counterespionage, the rules are completely different.” He drew a simple diagram in my notebook. “You are a scientist. In science there is no concept of the ‘price’ of information. Suppose I gave you 95 per cent of the data concerning a phenomenon. You’re happy because you know 95 per cent of the phenomenon. Not so in Intelligence.
If I get 95 per cent of the data, I know this is the ‘cheap’ part of the information. I still need the other 5 per cent, but I will have to pay a much higher price to get it. You see, Hitler had 95 per cent of the information about the landing in Normandy.
But he had the WRONG 95 PER CENT!”
“Are you saying that the UFO data we use to compile statistics and to find patterns with computers are useless?” I asked. “Might we be spinning our magnetic tapes endlessly discovering spurious laws?”
“It all depends on how the team on the OTHER SIDE thinks. If they know what they’re doing, there will be so many cutouts between you and them that you won’t have the slightest chance of tracing your way to the truth. Not by following up sightings and throwing them into a computer.
They will keep feeding you the information they want you to process. What is the only source of data about the UFO phenomenon? It is the UFOs themselves!”
Some things were beginning to make a lot of sense.
“If you’re right, what can I do? It seems that research on the phenomenon is hopeless, then. I might as well dump my computer into a river.”
“Not necessarily, but you should try a different approach. First you should work entirely outside of the organized UFO groups; they are infiltrated by the same official agencies they are trying to influence, and they propagate any rumor anyone wants to have circulated. In Intelligence circles, people like that are historical necessities.
We call them ‘useful idiots.’ When you’ve worked long enough for Uncle Sam, you know he is involved in a lot of strange things. The data these groups get are biased at the source, but they play a useful role.
“Second, you should look for the irrational, the bizarre, the elements that do not fit: that’s what I have come to observe at this meeting tonight. Have you ever felt that you were getting close to something that didn’t seem to fit any rational pattern, yet gave you a strong impression that it was significant?”
[... Deleted: Vallee’s discussion of the immortality-claming group “Human Individual Metamorphosis,” the strange life of Jacques Bordas, and the mysterious Order of Melchizedek...]
The absurdity of many UFO stories and of many religious visions is not a superficial logical mistake. It may be the key to their function. According to Major Murphy, the confusion in the UFO mystery may have been put there deliberately to achieve certain results.
One of these results has been to keep scientists away. The other is to create the conditions for a new form of social control, a change in Man’s perception of his place in the universe. Are his theories fantastic? Before we decide, let us review a few other facts. We need to examine more closely the political connections.
Paris Flammonde, in his well-documented “Age of Flying Saucers,” remarked that “a great many of the contactees purvey philosophies which are tinged, if not tainted, with totalitarian overtones.”
A catalogue of contactee themes, compiled from interviews I have conducted, includes the following.
INTELLECTUAL ABDICATION
The widespread belief that human beings are incapable of solving their own problems, and that extraterrestrial intervention is imperative to save us “in spite of ourselves.”
The danger in such a philosophy is that it makes its believers dependent on outside forces and discourages personal responsibility: why should we worry about the problems around us, if the Gods from Outer Space are about to solve them?
RACIST PHILOSOPHY
The pernicious suggestion that some of us on the Earth are of extraterrestrial descent and therefore constitute a “higher race.”
The dangers inherent in this belief should be obvious to anybody who hasn’t forgotten the genocides of World War II, executed on the premise that some races were somehow “purer” or better than others.
(Let us note in passing that Adamski’s Venusian, the Stranger of the Canigou seen by Bordas, and many other alleged extraterrestrials were all tall Aryan types with long blond hair.)
TECHNICAL IMPOTENCE
The statement that the birth of civilization on this planet resulted not from the genius and ability of mankind, but from repeated assistance by higher beings.
Archaeologists and anthropologists are constantly aware of the marvelous skill with which the “Ancient Engineers” (to use L. Sprague de Camp’s phrase) developed the tools of civilization on all continents.
No appear to superior powers is necessary to explain the achievements of early culture. The belief expressed by the contactees reveals a tragic lack of trust on their part in human ability.
SOCIAL UTOPIA
Fantastic economic theories, including the belief that a “world economy” can be created overnight, and that democracy should be abolished in favor of utopian systems, usually dictatorial in their outlook.
Such ideas are present, in one form or another, in the statements of organized UFO cults and sects that are described here, and they deserve to be examined in some detail.
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"Messengers of Deception"
by Jacques Vallee
1979
from VirtuallyStrange Website
[...] Scientific analysis will undoubtedly provide part of the truth about UFOs; however, I no longer believe it will lead to the whole truth. I owe this realization to a man I shall call “Major Murphy,” although his actual rank is much higher than that of Major. He taught me a lesson I am not likely to forget.
Major Murphy, who retired from a U.S. Intelligence service quite a few years ago, had seen action in World War II in Italy, and also described vividly his investigations in the Caribbean, where he organized efforts to intercept submarines and German spies on their way to the United States.
I met him at a gathering of UFO contactees and suggested a drink when it was over. I expressed my surprise at his interest in the event, which I had regarded as a complete waste of time. He asked me to clarify this judgment, and I said that in my opinion none of the people in attendance knew anything about science.
Then he posed a question that, obvious as it seems, had not really occurred to me:
“What makes you think that UFOs are a scientific problem?”
I replied with something to the effect that a problem was only scientific in the way it was approached, but he would have none of that, and he began lecturing me. First, he said, science had certain rules. For example, it has to assume that the phenomenon it is observing is natural in origin rather than artificial and possibly biased.
Now, the UFO phenomenon could be controlled by alien beings.
“If it is,” added the Major, “then the study of it doesn’t belong in science. It belongs in Intelligence.”
MEANING COUNTERESPIONAGE. And that, he pointed out, was his domain.
“Now, in the field of counterespionage, the rules are completely different.” He drew a simple diagram in my notebook. “You are a scientist. In science there is no concept of the ‘price’ of information. Suppose I gave you 95 per cent of the data concerning a phenomenon. You’re happy because you know 95 per cent of the phenomenon. Not so in Intelligence.
If I get 95 per cent of the data, I know this is the ‘cheap’ part of the information. I still need the other 5 per cent, but I will have to pay a much higher price to get it. You see, Hitler had 95 per cent of the information about the landing in Normandy.
But he had the WRONG 95 PER CENT!”
“Are you saying that the UFO data we use to compile statistics and to find patterns with computers are useless?” I asked. “Might we be spinning our magnetic tapes endlessly discovering spurious laws?”
“It all depends on how the team on the OTHER SIDE thinks. If they know what they’re doing, there will be so many cutouts between you and them that you won’t have the slightest chance of tracing your way to the truth. Not by following up sightings and throwing them into a computer.
They will keep feeding you the information they want you to process. What is the only source of data about the UFO phenomenon? It is the UFOs themselves!”
Some things were beginning to make a lot of sense.
“If you’re right, what can I do? It seems that research on the phenomenon is hopeless, then. I might as well dump my computer into a river.”
“Not necessarily, but you should try a different approach. First you should work entirely outside of the organized UFO groups; they are infiltrated by the same official agencies they are trying to influence, and they propagate any rumor anyone wants to have circulated. In Intelligence circles, people like that are historical necessities.
We call them ‘useful idiots.’ When you’ve worked long enough for Uncle Sam, you know he is involved in a lot of strange things. The data these groups get are biased at the source, but they play a useful role.
“Second, you should look for the irrational, the bizarre, the elements that do not fit: that’s what I have come to observe at this meeting tonight. Have you ever felt that you were getting close to something that didn’t seem to fit any rational pattern, yet gave you a strong impression that it was significant?”
[... Deleted: Vallee’s discussion of the immortality-claming group “Human Individual Metamorphosis,” the strange life of Jacques Bordas, and the mysterious Order of Melchizedek...]
The absurdity of many UFO stories and of many religious visions is not a superficial logical mistake. It may be the key to their function. According to Major Murphy, the confusion in the UFO mystery may have been put there deliberately to achieve certain results.
One of these results has been to keep scientists away. The other is to create the conditions for a new form of social control, a change in Man’s perception of his place in the universe. Are his theories fantastic? Before we decide, let us review a few other facts. We need to examine more closely the political connections.
Paris Flammonde, in his well-documented “Age of Flying Saucers,” remarked that “a great many of the contactees purvey philosophies which are tinged, if not tainted, with totalitarian overtones.”
A catalogue of contactee themes, compiled from interviews I have conducted, includes the following.
INTELLECTUAL ABDICATION
The widespread belief that human beings are incapable of solving their own problems, and that extraterrestrial intervention is imperative to save us “in spite of ourselves.”
The danger in such a philosophy is that it makes its believers dependent on outside forces and discourages personal responsibility: why should we worry about the problems around us, if the Gods from Outer Space are about to solve them?
RACIST PHILOSOPHY
The pernicious suggestion that some of us on the Earth are of extraterrestrial descent and therefore constitute a “higher race.”
The dangers inherent in this belief should be obvious to anybody who hasn’t forgotten the genocides of World War II, executed on the premise that some races were somehow “purer” or better than others.
(Let us note in passing that Adamski’s Venusian, the Stranger of the Canigou seen by Bordas, and many other alleged extraterrestrials were all tall Aryan types with long blond hair.)
TECHNICAL IMPOTENCE
The statement that the birth of civilization on this planet resulted not from the genius and ability of mankind, but from repeated assistance by higher beings.
Archaeologists and anthropologists are constantly aware of the marvelous skill with which the “Ancient Engineers” (to use L. Sprague de Camp’s phrase) developed the tools of civilization on all continents.
No appear to superior powers is necessary to explain the achievements of early culture. The belief expressed by the contactees reveals a tragic lack of trust on their part in human ability.
SOCIAL UTOPIA
Fantastic economic theories, including the belief that a “world economy” can be created overnight, and that democracy should be abolished in favor of utopian systems, usually dictatorial in their outlook.
Such ideas are present, in one form or another, in the statements of organized UFO cults and sects that are described here, and they deserve to be examined in some detail.
Return to Jacques F. Vallee
Return to Vida en Nuestra Galaxia
Return to Temas / Vida Alienigena
Return to The Divine and The Manipulative Extraterrestrials
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_humanitymanipulationalien.htm#menu
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5 November 2016 04:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
MESSENGERS OF DECEPTION - Part 2
SOME PHILOSOPHICAL AND OTHER PROBLEMS WITH THESE MESSAGES
While there seems to be evidence for UFO related activities as mentioned above, perhaps there are other possible explanations.
Many UFO paranormal, psychic, and spiritistic manifestations, etc.5, 6. Many abductees, contactees and researchers believe there is an inter-dimensional or multidimensional quality to the UFO phenomena and experiences with ET's.
Although the UFO phenomena maybe real it also could be a holographic illusion or a transmogrification of matter and energy. Perhaps ET's are entities that have power to shape matter and spirit. Some alien life forms seem to have an ability to shape shift and appear and disappear 5, 6.
Dr. J. Allen Hyneck suggested the phenomena appears to be more psychic than extra-terrestrial and perhaps comes from a parallel world. This also seems to be Dr. Vallee's explanation 6, 9.
Dr. Vallee also notes that there are authoritarian overtones to some of the messages given to contactees 8 i.e.
democracy is obsolete
elections should be done away with 4
racist ideologies are encouraged - some have more alien DNA etc.
a New World Order is needed and will be set up with alien help
He also believes that some kind of control system is being set up by the UFO phenomena which challenges our traditions and human beliefs systems 6, 8. Many abductees report implants and feel they are being manipulated for some unknown purpose that's yet to be revealed.
Much of the messages given to abductees and contactees seem to be New Age in philosophical orientation and language:
there are no moral absolutes
reincarnation is taught
monistic beliefs such as a vague "kinship with the Cosmos and it's oneness with the Universe or the Universe as a supreme being" are common
we are being told that "we stand on the precipice of a quantum leap forward on both a biological and spiritual level"
Man is or is becoming God...etc. 3, 13.
If man is one with the cosmos or some impersonal concept of God there cannot be a basis for truth or ethics. The impersonal, as such is silent about such things. There is no basis for saying anything is right or wrong if all is one with God.
What you are left with is total relativism or the arbitrary absolutes of the controllers who ever they may be.
"If All is One , good and evil are reconciled, then one can can do nothing bad; thus Manson was only acting logically.... the fact that Manson's followers knew him as both Satan and Christ highlights the collapse of distinctions between good and evil under moral relativity".13
As well, finite alien creators cannot provide sufficient absolutes. You have the same problems as pagan polytheism - the gods are too small to account for the creation of the universe and not good enough to provide a basis of morals and truth.
Is abducting and raping women okay if extra-terrestrials do it?
Also, why all the authoritarian overtones to some of the messages?
Do they really have our best interest in mind or is there evidence of some kind of control system?
There are several alien types taking credit for the creation of man and now some contactees like Rael and Benjamine Cream are claiming to be prophets of some messianic authority.
In fact Rael is claiming to be the new final prophet and chosen "Messiah" of this age... chosen by a group of extra-terrestrials who call themselves the Eloheim who told Rael that they created the human race through genetic engineering.
Rael has over 35,000 followers world wide who call themselves Raelians... and they wish with the Eloheim's help, to usher in a world government ruled by an authoritarian elite. 4
Cream is promoting another "messiah" he calls "Maytrea". Full page ads in newspapers around the world has announced that this world teacher is in the world to-day. Cream is also convinced that the intelligences behind the crop circle phenomena are paving the way for the soon unveiling of his messiah who will usher in a New World Order and a New Age.
Skye Ambrose, a famous abductee who was "born again" as she said as a result her encounter with a strange "grey" type alien with bright sparkling eyes predicted at a recent UFO conference in Bellevue, Washington, that,
"evolution was entering a "peak cycle" that will create a New Order on the planet. Polarization is occurring on this planet to separate those who will accept the message and evolve toward Unity and Oneness and self-realized Godhood and those who will not not."
Many alien prophesies to contactees of the 50's or to-day have failed to come true or appear to be outright lies. 14
Many contactees and abductees to-day are again delivering warnings of coming earth changes and disasters along with promises of help from aliens... they feel chosen to deliver a message to mankind ...the prophesies are creating a false hope and dependency in their abductors who they know little about.
So what are we dealing with?
New Age aliens with some promise of a golden age or some unimaginable deception to enslave undiscerning minds. The evidence seems to point to the latter. There have been many false messianic claims and those foolish enough to repeat history by following the voices of deceiving entities have been warned to "beware of false prophets and Christ's who come disguised as sheep but underneath are ravenous wolves ".10
We should be reminded of the likes of Adolf Hitler who not long ago promised a New Age to unsuspecting Germans.
Whitley Striber, in a recent issue of the monthly MUFON Journal, Sept. 93, states:
"I've come away from this experience convinced of one thing: if there aren't demons out there, there might as well be, because these guys are indistinguishable from demons. Indistinguishable. To see them, to look into their eyes, is to be less - forever......."
Striber seems to swing from horror to naive trust... you see this in his books and statements to the public. Perhaps, he is not so sure of the visitor's intentions.
Perhaps we should heed the old warning:
"If, anyone says to you then, "Look, here is the Christ" or, "He is there", do not believe it; for false Christ and false prophets will arise and produce great signs and portents, enough to deceive even the chosen , if that were possible."11
Some UFO researchers suggest that perhaps the so called 'aliens' aren't much of a threat, after all if they have been around for this long and have not taken over then why should we be concerned.
However, if they are not what they appear to be, and the phenomena has other potentials and realities which include: deception, false messianic claims, dangerous ideologies, the formation of cults, etc., then for historical, social and political reasons we should not abandon our need for discernment and caution.
References
1. The Fellowship, by Brad Steiger.
2. Ibid pp. 47
3. Ibid pp. 185
4. The Messages Given To Me By The Extra-terrestrials - Rael
5. Operation Trojan Horse - John Keel pp. 200-232
6. Dimensions - Dr. Jacque Vallee
7. Transformation The Breakthrough- Whitley Striber pp. 180, 240.
8. Messengers of Deception - Dr. J. Vallee. Last chapter.
9. UFO'S in the New Age- William M. Alnor , Baker Book House 1992.
10. Matthew 7:15-20
11. Matthew 24: 23-28, 1 John 2:18-23, 1 John 4:1-6, 1 Thess 2:1-12.
12. Teachings of the Pleadians- Bringers of the Dawn.
13. Understanding the New Age- Russell Chandler, Word Publishing, 1988.
14. Deuteronomy 18:9-22.
SOME PHILOSOPHICAL AND OTHER PROBLEMS WITH THESE MESSAGES
While there seems to be evidence for UFO related activities as mentioned above, perhaps there are other possible explanations.
Many UFO paranormal, psychic, and spiritistic manifestations, etc.5, 6. Many abductees, contactees and researchers believe there is an inter-dimensional or multidimensional quality to the UFO phenomena and experiences with ET's.
Although the UFO phenomena maybe real it also could be a holographic illusion or a transmogrification of matter and energy. Perhaps ET's are entities that have power to shape matter and spirit. Some alien life forms seem to have an ability to shape shift and appear and disappear 5, 6.
Dr. J. Allen Hyneck suggested the phenomena appears to be more psychic than extra-terrestrial and perhaps comes from a parallel world. This also seems to be Dr. Vallee's explanation 6, 9.
Dr. Vallee also notes that there are authoritarian overtones to some of the messages given to contactees 8 i.e.
democracy is obsolete
elections should be done away with 4
racist ideologies are encouraged - some have more alien DNA etc.
a New World Order is needed and will be set up with alien help
He also believes that some kind of control system is being set up by the UFO phenomena which challenges our traditions and human beliefs systems 6, 8. Many abductees report implants and feel they are being manipulated for some unknown purpose that's yet to be revealed.
Much of the messages given to abductees and contactees seem to be New Age in philosophical orientation and language:
there are no moral absolutes
reincarnation is taught
monistic beliefs such as a vague "kinship with the Cosmos and it's oneness with the Universe or the Universe as a supreme being" are common
we are being told that "we stand on the precipice of a quantum leap forward on both a biological and spiritual level"
Man is or is becoming God...etc. 3, 13.
If man is one with the cosmos or some impersonal concept of God there cannot be a basis for truth or ethics. The impersonal, as such is silent about such things. There is no basis for saying anything is right or wrong if all is one with God.
What you are left with is total relativism or the arbitrary absolutes of the controllers who ever they may be.
"If All is One , good and evil are reconciled, then one can can do nothing bad; thus Manson was only acting logically.... the fact that Manson's followers knew him as both Satan and Christ highlights the collapse of distinctions between good and evil under moral relativity".13
As well, finite alien creators cannot provide sufficient absolutes. You have the same problems as pagan polytheism - the gods are too small to account for the creation of the universe and not good enough to provide a basis of morals and truth.
Is abducting and raping women okay if extra-terrestrials do it?
Also, why all the authoritarian overtones to some of the messages?
Do they really have our best interest in mind or is there evidence of some kind of control system?
There are several alien types taking credit for the creation of man and now some contactees like Rael and Benjamine Cream are claiming to be prophets of some messianic authority.
In fact Rael is claiming to be the new final prophet and chosen "Messiah" of this age... chosen by a group of extra-terrestrials who call themselves the Eloheim who told Rael that they created the human race through genetic engineering.
Rael has over 35,000 followers world wide who call themselves Raelians... and they wish with the Eloheim's help, to usher in a world government ruled by an authoritarian elite. 4
Cream is promoting another "messiah" he calls "Maytrea". Full page ads in newspapers around the world has announced that this world teacher is in the world to-day. Cream is also convinced that the intelligences behind the crop circle phenomena are paving the way for the soon unveiling of his messiah who will usher in a New World Order and a New Age.
Skye Ambrose, a famous abductee who was "born again" as she said as a result her encounter with a strange "grey" type alien with bright sparkling eyes predicted at a recent UFO conference in Bellevue, Washington, that,
"evolution was entering a "peak cycle" that will create a New Order on the planet. Polarization is occurring on this planet to separate those who will accept the message and evolve toward Unity and Oneness and self-realized Godhood and those who will not not."
Many alien prophesies to contactees of the 50's or to-day have failed to come true or appear to be outright lies. 14
Many contactees and abductees to-day are again delivering warnings of coming earth changes and disasters along with promises of help from aliens... they feel chosen to deliver a message to mankind ...the prophesies are creating a false hope and dependency in their abductors who they know little about.
So what are we dealing with?
New Age aliens with some promise of a golden age or some unimaginable deception to enslave undiscerning minds. The evidence seems to point to the latter. There have been many false messianic claims and those foolish enough to repeat history by following the voices of deceiving entities have been warned to "beware of false prophets and Christ's who come disguised as sheep but underneath are ravenous wolves ".10
We should be reminded of the likes of Adolf Hitler who not long ago promised a New Age to unsuspecting Germans.
Whitley Striber, in a recent issue of the monthly MUFON Journal, Sept. 93, states:
"I've come away from this experience convinced of one thing: if there aren't demons out there, there might as well be, because these guys are indistinguishable from demons. Indistinguishable. To see them, to look into their eyes, is to be less - forever......."
Striber seems to swing from horror to naive trust... you see this in his books and statements to the public. Perhaps, he is not so sure of the visitor's intentions.
Perhaps we should heed the old warning:
"If, anyone says to you then, "Look, here is the Christ" or, "He is there", do not believe it; for false Christ and false prophets will arise and produce great signs and portents, enough to deceive even the chosen , if that were possible."11
Some UFO researchers suggest that perhaps the so called 'aliens' aren't much of a threat, after all if they have been around for this long and have not taken over then why should we be concerned.
However, if they are not what they appear to be, and the phenomena has other potentials and realities which include: deception, false messianic claims, dangerous ideologies, the formation of cults, etc., then for historical, social and political reasons we should not abandon our need for discernment and caution.
References
1. The Fellowship, by Brad Steiger.
2. Ibid pp. 47
3. Ibid pp. 185
4. The Messages Given To Me By The Extra-terrestrials - Rael
5. Operation Trojan Horse - John Keel pp. 200-232
6. Dimensions - Dr. Jacque Vallee
7. Transformation The Breakthrough- Whitley Striber pp. 180, 240.
8. Messengers of Deception - Dr. J. Vallee. Last chapter.
9. UFO'S in the New Age- William M. Alnor , Baker Book House 1992.
10. Matthew 7:15-20
11. Matthew 24: 23-28, 1 John 2:18-23, 1 John 4:1-6, 1 Thess 2:1-12.
12. Teachings of the Pleadians- Bringers of the Dawn.
13. Understanding the New Age- Russell Chandler, Word Publishing, 1988.
14. Deuteronomy 18:9-22.
5 November 2016 04:22
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Events such as the Harmonic Convergence are lifting the veil so the Higher Galactic intelligences of the universe will be able to channel their energies and influences to facilitate the shift towards a New Age.
Evidence for these claims are: the many abductee and contactee experiences with similar stories and messages, physical scars, hybrid babies, recognition of some kind of symbolic or hieroglyphic language etc.
There seems to be according to researchers increasing cases worldwide of UFO sightings, crop or landing circles, animal mutilations, abductions of men, women and children.
According to Dr. Karla Turner, who has worked with over 400 abduction cases and has written the book "Into the Fringe", says if abduction accounts can be believed and there is confirmation of many of these facts with other researchers - the abduction phenomena includes some of the following details:
Aliens -Friends or Foes
by Dr. Karla Turner
from -UFO Universe, Spring 1993
Aliens can alter our perceptions of our surroundings.
Aliens can control what we think we see. They can appear to us any number of guises and shapes.
Aliens can be present with us in an invisible state and can make themselves only partially visible.
Abductees receive marks on their bodies other than the well-known scoops and straight-line scars. These other marks include single punctures, multiple punctures, large bruises, three-and four fingered claw marks, and triangles of every possible sort.
Female abductees often suffer serious gynecological problems after their alien encounters, and sometimes these problems lead to cysts, tumors, cancer of the breast and uterus, and to hysterectomies.
A surprising number of abductees suffer from serious illnesses they didn't have before their encounters. These have led to surgery, debilitation, and even death from causes the doctors can't identify.
Abductees often encounter more than one sort of alien during an experience, not just the greys. Every possible combination of grey, reptoid, insectoid, blond, and widow's peak have been seen during single abductions, aboard the same craft or in the same facility.
Abductees report being scoffed at, jeered at, and threatened by their alien captors. Painful genital and anal probes are performed... Unknown fluids are injected into some abductees.
Abductees-"virgin" cases- report being taken to underground facilities where they see grotesque hybrid creatures, nurseries of hybrid humanoid fetuses, and vats of colored liquid filled with parts of human bodies.
Abductees report seeing other humans in these facilities being drained of blood, being mutilated, flayed, and dismembered, and stacked, lifeless like cords of wood. Some abductees have been threatened that they, too, will end up in this condition if they don't co-operate with their alien captors.
Aliens come into homes and temporarily remove young children, leaving their distraught parents paralyzed and helpless. In cases where a parent has been able to protest, the aliens insist that "The children belong to us."
Aliens have forced their human abductees to have sexual intercourse with aliens and even with other abductees while groups of aliens observe these performances. In such encounters, the aliens have sometimes disguised themselves in order to gain the cooperation of the abductee, appearing in such forms as Jesus, the Pope, certain celebrities, and even the dead spouses of the abductees.
Aliens perform extremely painful experiments or procedures on abductees, saying that these acts are necessary but give no explanation why... Painful genital and anal probes are performed, on children as well as adults.
Aliens make predictions of an imminent period of global chaos and destruction. They say that a certain number of humans... will be "rescued" from the planet in order to continue the species, either on another planet or back on earth after the destruction is over. Many abductees report they don't believe their alien captors and foresee instead a much more sinister use of the "rescued" humans.
"In every instance from this list, there are multiple reports from unrelated cases, confirming that such bizarre details are not the product of a single deranged mind. These details are convincing evidence that, contrary to the claims of many UFO researchers, the abduction experience isn't limited to uniform pattern of events.
This phenomenon simply can't be explained in terms of cross- breeding experiments or scientific research into the human physiology... Before we allow ourselves to believe in the benevolence of the alien interaction , we should ask,
Do enlightened beings need to use the cover of night to perform good deeds?
Do they need to paralyze us and render us helpless to resist?
Do angels need to steal our fetuses?
Do they need to manipulate our children's genitals and probe our rectums?
Are fear, pain, and deception consistent with high spiritual motives?"
Dr. Karla Turner
References
1. The Fellowship, by Brad Steiger.
2. Ibid pp. 47
3. Ibid pp. 185
4. The Messages Given To Me By The Extra-terrestials - Rael
5. Operation Trojan Horse - John Keel pp. 200-232
6. Dimensions - Dr. Jacque Vallee
7. Transformation The Breakthrough - Whitley Striber pp. 180, 240.
8. Messengers of Deception - Dr. J. Vallee. Last chapter.
9. UFO'S in the New Age - William M. Alnor , Baker Book House 1992.
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_messengersdeception.htm
Evidence for these claims are: the many abductee and contactee experiences with similar stories and messages, physical scars, hybrid babies, recognition of some kind of symbolic or hieroglyphic language etc.
There seems to be according to researchers increasing cases worldwide of UFO sightings, crop or landing circles, animal mutilations, abductions of men, women and children.
According to Dr. Karla Turner, who has worked with over 400 abduction cases and has written the book "Into the Fringe", says if abduction accounts can be believed and there is confirmation of many of these facts with other researchers - the abduction phenomena includes some of the following details:
Aliens -Friends or Foes
by Dr. Karla Turner
from -UFO Universe, Spring 1993
Aliens can alter our perceptions of our surroundings.
Aliens can control what we think we see. They can appear to us any number of guises and shapes.
Aliens can be present with us in an invisible state and can make themselves only partially visible.
Abductees receive marks on their bodies other than the well-known scoops and straight-line scars. These other marks include single punctures, multiple punctures, large bruises, three-and four fingered claw marks, and triangles of every possible sort.
Female abductees often suffer serious gynecological problems after their alien encounters, and sometimes these problems lead to cysts, tumors, cancer of the breast and uterus, and to hysterectomies.
A surprising number of abductees suffer from serious illnesses they didn't have before their encounters. These have led to surgery, debilitation, and even death from causes the doctors can't identify.
Abductees often encounter more than one sort of alien during an experience, not just the greys. Every possible combination of grey, reptoid, insectoid, blond, and widow's peak have been seen during single abductions, aboard the same craft or in the same facility.
Abductees report being scoffed at, jeered at, and threatened by their alien captors. Painful genital and anal probes are performed... Unknown fluids are injected into some abductees.
Abductees-"virgin" cases- report being taken to underground facilities where they see grotesque hybrid creatures, nurseries of hybrid humanoid fetuses, and vats of colored liquid filled with parts of human bodies.
Abductees report seeing other humans in these facilities being drained of blood, being mutilated, flayed, and dismembered, and stacked, lifeless like cords of wood. Some abductees have been threatened that they, too, will end up in this condition if they don't co-operate with their alien captors.
Aliens come into homes and temporarily remove young children, leaving their distraught parents paralyzed and helpless. In cases where a parent has been able to protest, the aliens insist that "The children belong to us."
Aliens have forced their human abductees to have sexual intercourse with aliens and even with other abductees while groups of aliens observe these performances. In such encounters, the aliens have sometimes disguised themselves in order to gain the cooperation of the abductee, appearing in such forms as Jesus, the Pope, certain celebrities, and even the dead spouses of the abductees.
Aliens perform extremely painful experiments or procedures on abductees, saying that these acts are necessary but give no explanation why... Painful genital and anal probes are performed, on children as well as adults.
Aliens make predictions of an imminent period of global chaos and destruction. They say that a certain number of humans... will be "rescued" from the planet in order to continue the species, either on another planet or back on earth after the destruction is over. Many abductees report they don't believe their alien captors and foresee instead a much more sinister use of the "rescued" humans.
"In every instance from this list, there are multiple reports from unrelated cases, confirming that such bizarre details are not the product of a single deranged mind. These details are convincing evidence that, contrary to the claims of many UFO researchers, the abduction experience isn't limited to uniform pattern of events.
This phenomenon simply can't be explained in terms of cross- breeding experiments or scientific research into the human physiology... Before we allow ourselves to believe in the benevolence of the alien interaction , we should ask,
Do enlightened beings need to use the cover of night to perform good deeds?
Do they need to paralyze us and render us helpless to resist?
Do angels need to steal our fetuses?
Do they need to manipulate our children's genitals and probe our rectums?
Are fear, pain, and deception consistent with high spiritual motives?"
Dr. Karla Turner
References
1. The Fellowship, by Brad Steiger.
2. Ibid pp. 47
3. Ibid pp. 185
4. The Messages Given To Me By The Extra-terrestials - Rael
5. Operation Trojan Horse - John Keel pp. 200-232
6. Dimensions - Dr. Jacque Vallee
7. Transformation The Breakthrough - Whitley Striber pp. 180, 240.
8. Messengers of Deception - Dr. J. Vallee. Last chapter.
9. UFO'S in the New Age - William M. Alnor , Baker Book House 1992.
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_messengersdeception.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_messengersdeception.htm
5 November 2016 04:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Also worth to mention, in this video:
Messangers of Deception (by the guy who help to build internet)
https://youtu.be/VvApvRL-LCE?t=3877 (1h. 4 - 7 minutes..) few minutes after that..
https://youtu.be/VvApvRL-LCE?t=3967..
Messangers of Deception (by the guy who help to build internet)
https://youtu.be/VvApvRL-LCE?t=3877 (1h. 4 - 7 minutes..) few minutes after that..
https://youtu.be/VvApvRL-LCE?t=3967..
https://youtu.be/VvApvRL-LCE?t=3877
5 November 2016 04:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I, Pet Goat II is a 2012 Canadian animated short film written, directed, produced and edited by Louis Lefebvre. The film features a commentary on American society and politics, particularly the agendas of presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, with allusions to Biblical theology and Egyptian imagery in a post-apocalyptic setting. The title is a reference to The Pet Goat (often erroneously referred to as My Pet Goat), the book children at Emma Booker School in Sarasota, Florida read to President Bush at the time of the September 11 attacks which ends stating "more to come". The film is known for its strong use of cryptic symbolism and the conspiracy allusions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I,_Pet_Goat_II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I,_Pet_Goat_II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I,_Pet_Goat_II
5 November 2016 04:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
... and some more internet interpretations and revelations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ_Fyh6UkhU
Louis Lefebvre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ_Fyh6UkhU
Louis Lefebvre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ_Fyh6UkhU
5 November 2016 04:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Something good also from Alex Jones - well, at least.. but yea.. wonder .. where he would place Alex it self.. (sad lol)
But good to hear from Director
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsPlPohPa1c
But good to hear from Director
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsPlPohPa1c
5 November 2016 04:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so.. few more images here.. but ...
a bit.. is it ... like the bird thought
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cn_Gzymc1Q
a bit.. is it ... like the bird thought
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cn_Gzymc1Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cn_Gzymc1Q
5 November 2016 04:06
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5 November 2016 04:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so what was a point of this video again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4EKJux_Z5g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4EKJux_Z5g
5 November 2016 04:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Longer, doc kind of ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuxtDglZYxs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuxtDglZYxs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuxtDglZYxs
5 November 2016 03:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
..and some more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpey7lEgxxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpey7lEgxxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpey7lEgxxE
5 November 2016 03:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnWVGldAqXM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnWVGldAqXM
5 November 2016 03:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU-_yVIx99U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU-_yVIx99U
5 November 2016 03:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
This that he had the book upside down on hes hand, was a bit to much cry to tell people, ... purposely... "Help Us"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoH5kI8xun4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoH5kI8xun4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoH5kI8xun4
5 November 2016 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Some help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tclgtA2BABM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tclgtA2BABM
5 November 2016 03:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
5 November 2016 03:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU7LKAsjt4k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU7LKAsjt4k
5 November 2016 03:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PyHo1NLqj0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PyHo1NLqj0
5 November 2016 03:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Chapter three
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBbKD9bmMCY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBbKD9bmMCY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBbKD9bmMCY
5 November 2016 03:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Chapter 2
Greek and ROmans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr1T0TNnHlY
Greek and ROmans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr1T0TNnHlY
5 November 2016 03:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Chapter one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV7jBdJjiEw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV7jBdJjiEw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV7jBdJjiEw
5 November 2016 03:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8IGAoEZ4I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8IGAoEZ4I
5 November 2016 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this guy is creepy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6aCir5bu-c (the one who runs show)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6aCir5bu-c
5 November 2016 03:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipLH6DfQAck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipLH6DfQAck
5 November 2016 03:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG1A9_YWWrA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG1A9_YWWrA
5 November 2016 03:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"I am sorry that YOU are hurt by this"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qigr-axv2dk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qigr-axv2dk
5 November 2016 03:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpeK4HIDZX0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpeK4HIDZX0
5 November 2016 03:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I87hC8dcVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I87hC8dcVU
5 November 2016 03:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE1mrHlctVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE1mrHlctVo
5 November 2016 03:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM8TSz74K_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM8TSz74K_8
5 November 2016 03:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6puoyQ9HNp4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6puoyQ9HNp4
5 November 2016 03:28
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWbrowBAla8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWbrowBAla8
5 November 2016 03:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
REVIEWS
PHILIP ZIMBARDO, Professor Emeritus of Psychology, Stanford University, and author of The Lucifer Effect, writes:
"I was most impressed with the combination of depth and breadth in this treatment of evil; depth in the search for and elucidation of the sources or origins of different kinds of evil and of the systems that generate and perpetuate evil, and breadth in the rich reach of ideas across many domains of knowledge. Together they combine to make fascinating, essential reading."
ILAN PAPPE, Professor of History, University of Exeter, and author of The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, writes:
"This is an extraordinary book. I cannot judge the biological aspects of the tyrannical few who rule political and economic elites in the modern era, but intuitively I am convinced that it is a pathological condition. The analysis and prognosis offered in this book rang true and valid again and again when I thought about my own work, both with regards to [the Nakba of] 1948 and … the history of the Israeli occupation."
PHILIP R. DAVIES, Professor Emeritus of Biblical Studies, University of Sheffield, and author of Whose Bible Is It Anyway?, writes:
"[Political Ponerology] impressed me in lots of ways and provoked me to think more about the nature and origin of what we call 'evil'. The strongest part of the book is the analysis of how psychopaths gain power and of the behaviour of such societies. … It is undoubtedly true that psychopaths exist and are dangerous and manipulative. … I believe, perhaps optimistically, that a powerful social ethos (which is these days somewhat less than it used to be) works in reducing the capacity for individuals to behave selfishly - a similar kind of mechanism that persuades people to accept and follow psychopaths. That is part of the solution too. … In all, a book I was pleased to have read and which I hope will continue to promote the study of how a certain kind of evil spreads. And especially in continuing to name as 'evil' things that many people are unable to see as such."
CATHERINE AUSTIN FITTS, founder of Solari Investment Advisory Services and Assistant Secretary of Housing in the first Bush Administration, writes: (Read the full review HERE)
"I found [Political Ponerology] chock full of deeply useful insights that can inform organizing to shift our situation. … I strongly recommend this book for anyone who is managing human or financial risk in this environment or is looking to create healthy change. … It helps you understand why conspiracies of the healthy and 'coming clean' are essential. Political Ponerology is a book to read slowly. … The insights are deep and rich - they require focus and concentration. And the point comes home again and again: Ignotas nulla curatio morbid - do not attempt to cure what you do not understand."
CAROLYN BAKER, psychotherapist, professor of history and psychology, and author of Sacred Demise: Walking the Spiritual Path of Industrial Civilization's Collapse, writes: (Read the full review HERE [mirror])
"After I read the book, a number of nagging questions about the policies and practices of government and corporate officials began to answer themselves in that Lobaczewski's analysis goes to the heart of why the United States government has become a criminal enterprise hell bent on dominating the world and annihilating vast quantities of human beings globally and domestically. … Political Ponerology is an invaluable work that every human being striving to become conscious, should read, not only for its expose of the pathology of the individuals currently in control of the United States government, but also the light it may shed on individuals closer to home, some of whom may be friends, fellow-activists, business or civic leaders. The book's purpose is … to cultivate discernment and buttress our trust of our innate intuition in order to navigate the daunting manifestations of evil that surround us in the twenty-first century.”"
SILVIA CATTORI, freelance journalist, writes: (Read the full interview, "The Trick of the Psychopath's Trade," HERE)
"I think everyone should read this book because it provides the keys necessary for understanding events that we often can't comprehend. The book describes the origins of 'evil', its true nature, and illustrates how it spreads throughout society."
Review, Moonshine Ink, March 12, 2007 (mirror)
Review by Bret Burquest, News & News, April 26, 2007
Review by 'Time for Change', Democratic Underground, April 1, 2008 (mirror)
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PHILIP ZIMBARDO, Professor Emeritus of Psychology, Stanford University, and author of The Lucifer Effect, writes:
"I was most impressed with the combination of depth and breadth in this treatment of evil; depth in the search for and elucidation of the sources or origins of different kinds of evil and of the systems that generate and perpetuate evil, and breadth in the rich reach of ideas across many domains of knowledge. Together they combine to make fascinating, essential reading."
ILAN PAPPE, Professor of History, University of Exeter, and author of The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, writes:
"This is an extraordinary book. I cannot judge the biological aspects of the tyrannical few who rule political and economic elites in the modern era, but intuitively I am convinced that it is a pathological condition. The analysis and prognosis offered in this book rang true and valid again and again when I thought about my own work, both with regards to [the Nakba of] 1948 and … the history of the Israeli occupation."
PHILIP R. DAVIES, Professor Emeritus of Biblical Studies, University of Sheffield, and author of Whose Bible Is It Anyway?, writes:
"[Political Ponerology] impressed me in lots of ways and provoked me to think more about the nature and origin of what we call 'evil'. The strongest part of the book is the analysis of how psychopaths gain power and of the behaviour of such societies. … It is undoubtedly true that psychopaths exist and are dangerous and manipulative. … I believe, perhaps optimistically, that a powerful social ethos (which is these days somewhat less than it used to be) works in reducing the capacity for individuals to behave selfishly - a similar kind of mechanism that persuades people to accept and follow psychopaths. That is part of the solution too. … In all, a book I was pleased to have read and which I hope will continue to promote the study of how a certain kind of evil spreads. And especially in continuing to name as 'evil' things that many people are unable to see as such."
CATHERINE AUSTIN FITTS, founder of Solari Investment Advisory Services and Assistant Secretary of Housing in the first Bush Administration, writes: (Read the full review HERE)
"I found [Political Ponerology] chock full of deeply useful insights that can inform organizing to shift our situation. … I strongly recommend this book for anyone who is managing human or financial risk in this environment or is looking to create healthy change. … It helps you understand why conspiracies of the healthy and 'coming clean' are essential. Political Ponerology is a book to read slowly. … The insights are deep and rich - they require focus and concentration. And the point comes home again and again: Ignotas nulla curatio morbid - do not attempt to cure what you do not understand."
CAROLYN BAKER, psychotherapist, professor of history and psychology, and author of Sacred Demise: Walking the Spiritual Path of Industrial Civilization's Collapse, writes: (Read the full review HERE [mirror])
"After I read the book, a number of nagging questions about the policies and practices of government and corporate officials began to answer themselves in that Lobaczewski's analysis goes to the heart of why the United States government has become a criminal enterprise hell bent on dominating the world and annihilating vast quantities of human beings globally and domestically. … Political Ponerology is an invaluable work that every human being striving to become conscious, should read, not only for its expose of the pathology of the individuals currently in control of the United States government, but also the light it may shed on individuals closer to home, some of whom may be friends, fellow-activists, business or civic leaders. The book's purpose is … to cultivate discernment and buttress our trust of our innate intuition in order to navigate the daunting manifestations of evil that surround us in the twenty-first century.”"
SILVIA CATTORI, freelance journalist, writes: (Read the full interview, "The Trick of the Psychopath's Trade," HERE)
"I think everyone should read this book because it provides the keys necessary for understanding events that we often can't comprehend. The book describes the origins of 'evil', its true nature, and illustrates how it spreads throughout society."
Review, Moonshine Ink, March 12, 2007 (mirror)
Review by Bret Burquest, News & News, April 26, 2007
Review by 'Time for Change', Democratic Underground, April 1, 2008 (mirror)
Video review by Daniel Kemp, Earth Emperor, July 20, 2009
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5 November 2016 03:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I meant: sorry for having this picture, of promotion of this kind, on my wall, in You feed.
5 November 2016 03:07
Margus Meigo replied to Jyri Saamel's comment.
jah, nii rumalatki on, et tehakse neile õnnistus jumalat mingitki pidi tumdma õppida ja asuvad kurtma, selleasemel, et võimalust ära kasutada ja areneda allesjäänmise poole
5 November 2016 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to René Stevenson's comment.
ehitavad siia oma kivikarpmaju ja perversteid systeeme kus naised on sunnitud tööle võõra mehe juurde minema ja mehele makstakse nii vähe, et ei jaksa majapidamistki naise ja lastega üleval hoida, ilma et oma naist orjama ei saadaks jms
5 November 2016 02:53
Margus Meigo replied to René Stevenson's comment.
orjad on need kes jumalale ei allu, see ilmselge
5 November 2016 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to Jaanus Aivar's comment.
Jumalat muide on võimalik külastada, meelerahustuseks võin öelda
5 November 2016 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to Tyr Chlis's comment.
well. wonder.. now. .are they..
4 November 2016 22:58
Margus Meigo replied to Tyr Chlis's comment.
okey, i eddited added some extra in here..
perhaps to much packed in one.. but for who is neede,d have inside what is needed..
the point is that NO technollogy can EVER get us in to where we want to go in terms of another REAL "dimensions" to see the ones who make us, the birds (plants and animals) ARE THE technology that is invented, grown and evolved for all of it ... but as magnet pulls metal so stupidity pulss us on to more simplistic approaches of "doing it self" as feels more safer for coward people to "make self" something instead admit, that is Created what is needed already,
but it becomes to big and what looks big for us now seems so small that it will eliminate the "self importance" so deep way.. that many minds will want to reset them self and stop evolving.. so this is danger.. this is why tech toys are given again and again to try us to get thinking to wake us up from near dead .. ... is like CPR is NOT life and is NOT needed for everyday ONCE it has fulfilled its potential to get one back to life , to get "body working" .. same is with tech.. it is like CPR, for us.. to try to get us working again.. but if we keep doing and worship the CPR, ... you know how silly it would be ... the usage of body would be impossible.. but .. people have possession problem and worship problem of anything they see helpful and good for some period.. so they stop evolving by holding on wrong kind of task and tools and actions... and forgetting that most elementary LIFE related things is that what You can carry with you to next version of life, where You REALLY start to live as ONE group of peoples.. for WHAT is needed.. (more then that what we see ants or bees to do.. who are cousins bdw )
perhaps to much packed in one.. but for who is neede,d have inside what is needed..
the point is that NO technollogy can EVER get us in to where we want to go in terms of another REAL "dimensions" to see the ones who make us, the birds (plants and animals) ARE THE technology that is invented, grown and evolved for all of it ... but as magnet pulls metal so stupidity pulss us on to more simplistic approaches of "doing it self" as feels more safer for coward people to "make self" something instead admit, that is Created what is needed already,
but it becomes to big and what looks big for us now seems so small that it will eliminate the "self importance" so deep way.. that many minds will want to reset them self and stop evolving.. so this is danger.. this is why tech toys are given again and again to try us to get thinking to wake us up from near dead .. ... is like CPR is NOT life and is NOT needed for everyday ONCE it has fulfilled its potential to get one back to life , to get "body working" .. same is with tech.. it is like CPR, for us.. to try to get us working again.. but if we keep doing and worship the CPR, ... you know how silly it would be ... the usage of body would be impossible.. but .. people have possession problem and worship problem of anything they see helpful and good for some period.. so they stop evolving by holding on wrong kind of task and tools and actions... and forgetting that most elementary LIFE related things is that what You can carry with you to next version of life, where You REALLY start to live as ONE group of peoples.. for WHAT is needed.. (more then that what we see ants or bees to do.. who are cousins bdw )
4 November 2016 22:57
Margus Meigo replied to Tyr Chlis's comment.
(please, i No way try to be harsh, just the Wave is like that for now)
4 November 2016 22:09
Margus Meigo replied to Tyr Chlis's comment.
What do You mean by dimension? (what it is in real world, in Their point of view who are on the furthest far end, in final "dimension" (if one to think, there is no final, then the "highest end of biggest knowledge and largest power " - what are the dimensions of ours, to them in plain cartoon physical explanation? ... i did travel in what seem to be Soul Factory, looked kind of soviet in design, but had experiments from carrots to dangerous mantis (and other) bugs personal consciousness ))
// just a note, them not appreciate one to fly around in there, even if You are harmless as Pääs-uke (Hirundinidae - sw-allow's ) // not flight to Meigas ((Columba palumbus.. need faster maneuvers..) ... //
(in here kind of makes me smile softly to imagine them try to make this stuff with a piece of metal.. it is like try to get metal and plastic pregnant with each-other, and even that got bigger chance now to think about it.. as You end up in other kind of space after entering out from our universe (that is in Soul Laboratory departments.. and there air is same but with different density, so even if You would be able to change spaceship size and properties by reinventing Your ALL material and Yourself in it, in precise calculation not to wreak the other dimension room by making Yourself to big .. but most likelly You will just fall on to floor as piece of small metal scribble that is wiped up by a cleaner, that looks similar to our earth cleaner really, as we made in the image..
([and talking about in dimension on terms as in Here people think, in common language] ...to enter out on to RIGHT (kind) dimension that HOLDS inside dimension that where is our world with space, (this) that is REAL physical dimension Not the one that is invented by our minds (by co-operation of internal minds) and by the system of universe to keep us locked in... ) ))
// our minds with the System of universe / space is expanding as we look further, in our minds and in space in where we can actually travel, but as we so small, these are just layers of few CM for them.. but for us it is new and new light-years..
and when we can skip that simple and smart security trick and jump to Connection with our other minds in to what the data centers of Spaces are connected where our other similar projects are (precised as parallel universes or Bee structure in here.. ) ... thewn.. then is already more interesting, but not much more then traveling around in alive computer network in laboratory, not REALLY another dimension .. but can get real life experience in another consciousness "spaces" and "worlds" .... and as long You know how to return to your home base ... is good.. usually these travelers who are impotent enough are resettled or pulled back by agents and other tools, inside and outside the World (the world, that is in Soul Factory('s)...).
, well, at least is safe to think so...
..also can be that the body, data, cell You are or spirit, is just replaced most nearest backup.. that deserves Chance or is needed for testing..
// in here, i got to say, for fuel for God, is important to grow trees, some how what we grow here, ends up as real protection and maybe even fuel for a this world where god lives,
have not get in to this jet how ... but will get in to it on next travels, when is needed to provide for me, and when am able to come back.
But yea there is some material that ... well. .to say, trees protect God //
in the end,..
if You suck up to a God proper sensire way for doing it, You just might get Ticket pack to real world in few years (after slipping out from your world in to there..), .. well.. i am still arriving.. to the country (most likely only way, is old Earthly life way to integrate back to full life, unless You got personal woman with who You have earthly bond here as well, to "bring you back" ... then is more easy can imagine... (for that part am just assume, as can not remember to know that jet) or perhaps Old ones know more better ways.. (unless am here to invent them))
Have You been experiencing with various dosages of different shamanic tools from Fly Red shroom (for Earth internal) to Blue wisdom shroom (for soul external) ?
[assume You are familiar with possession take of various spirits and travel in space, skipping time, but just in case asking ]
// just a note, them not appreciate one to fly around in there, even if You are harmless as Pääs-uke (Hirundinidae - sw-allow's ) // not flight to Meigas ((Columba palumbus.. need faster maneuvers..) ... //
(in here kind of makes me smile softly to imagine them try to make this stuff with a piece of metal.. it is like try to get metal and plastic pregnant with each-other, and even that got bigger chance now to think about it.. as You end up in other kind of space after entering out from our universe (that is in Soul Laboratory departments.. and there air is same but with different density, so even if You would be able to change spaceship size and properties by reinventing Your ALL material and Yourself in it, in precise calculation not to wreak the other dimension room by making Yourself to big .. but most likelly You will just fall on to floor as piece of small metal scribble that is wiped up by a cleaner, that looks similar to our earth cleaner really, as we made in the image..
([and talking about in dimension on terms as in Here people think, in common language] ...to enter out on to RIGHT (kind) dimension that HOLDS inside dimension that where is our world with space, (this) that is REAL physical dimension Not the one that is invented by our minds (by co-operation of internal minds) and by the system of universe to keep us locked in... ) ))
// our minds with the System of universe / space is expanding as we look further, in our minds and in space in where we can actually travel, but as we so small, these are just layers of few CM for them.. but for us it is new and new light-years..
and when we can skip that simple and smart security trick and jump to Connection with our other minds in to what the data centers of Spaces are connected where our other similar projects are (precised as parallel universes or Bee structure in here.. ) ... thewn.. then is already more interesting, but not much more then traveling around in alive computer network in laboratory, not REALLY another dimension .. but can get real life experience in another consciousness "spaces" and "worlds" .... and as long You know how to return to your home base ... is good.. usually these travelers who are impotent enough are resettled or pulled back by agents and other tools, inside and outside the World (the world, that is in Soul Factory('s)...).
, well, at least is safe to think so...
..also can be that the body, data, cell You are or spirit, is just replaced most nearest backup.. that deserves Chance or is needed for testing..
// in here, i got to say, for fuel for God, is important to grow trees, some how what we grow here, ends up as real protection and maybe even fuel for a this world where god lives,
have not get in to this jet how ... but will get in to it on next travels, when is needed to provide for me, and when am able to come back.
But yea there is some material that ... well. .to say, trees protect God //
in the end,..
if You suck up to a God proper sensire way for doing it, You just might get Ticket pack to real world in few years (after slipping out from your world in to there..), .. well.. i am still arriving.. to the country (most likely only way, is old Earthly life way to integrate back to full life, unless You got personal woman with who You have earthly bond here as well, to "bring you back" ... then is more easy can imagine... (for that part am just assume, as can not remember to know that jet) or perhaps Old ones know more better ways.. (unless am here to invent them))
Have You been experiencing with various dosages of different shamanic tools from Fly Red shroom (for Earth internal) to Blue wisdom shroom (for soul external) ?
[assume You are familiar with possession take of various spirits and travel in space, skipping time, but just in case asking ]
4 November 2016 22:01
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
yes Brother,
but at least they try..
but at least they try..
4 November 2016 21:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Harold interigation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZvSqsBX2zU
copy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVh3Z_0FGGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZvSqsBX2zU
copy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVh3Z_0FGGY
4 November 2016 21:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Interigation, Jew & Pleading to 5th
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNlN8yqmVgM
Copy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax8-W2XkLhg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNlN8yqmVgM
Copy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax8-W2XkLhg
4 November 2016 21:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aftermath 2:
Arab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRl9mxwixeA
Copy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM8pe-OLi6w
Arab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRl9mxwixeA
Copy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM8pe-OLi6w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRl9mxwixeA
4 November 2016 21:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aftermath 1:
Rape of America
We Like the United States of America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tealqxV0TtM
Rape of America
We Like the United States of America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tealqxV0TtM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tealqxV0TtM
4 November 2016 21:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
also related, racial profiling:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rBSwa4zDLc
copy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCgpb53JI18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rBSwa4zDLc
copy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCgpb53JI18
4 November 2016 21:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Full scene, related to story, in a way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QllFV4D-PE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QllFV4D-PE
4 November 2016 21:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Makhzoomi called his uncle in Baghdad to tell him about an event he’d been excited to attend that included a speech by UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.At the end of the conversation, he and his uncle shared a customary farewell – “Inshallah.”
The political science student added that a nearby passenger overheard his conversation with his uncle and felt alarmed and proceeded to the front of the plane.
“One guy came with police officers within two minutes — I can’t believe how fast they were — and told me to get off the plane,” he told CNN.
Soon after, an Arabic-speaking Southwest Airlines employee of came to his seat and escorted him off the plane a few minutes after his call ended, he said. The man introduced himself in Arabic and then switched to English to ask, “Why were you speaking Arabic in the plane?”
Makhzoomi was afraid, and that the employee spoke to him “like I was an animal.”
FBI agents escorted him away. He was not allowed to reboard the Oakland-bound plane and was forced to book a flight on another airline.
This experience left him shaken and only adds to the bad memories.
“The US is the land of freedom. People respect the rule of law. How could people be humiliated like this? That was the real shock,” he told The Independent.
A complaint with the US Department of Transportation Office of Aviation Enforcement and Proceedings against Southwest Airlines for “racial and religious profiling of a Muslim passenger” has been filed by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfilaKrnAhQ (what i a world are these subtytles in there?)
-
FUll:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QllFV4D-PE
// You Makhzoomi should have thanked God Jehovah for providing You with opportunity to get something little bit real in safe way..
and You turn it to bitching, instead turn it to teach some manners to FBI and about god to others who You call up.
God send them to test Your faith, ... and it seems You have none.
LOOKING HUMAN LAW PROTECTION FOR GOD's world?
On 21'st century, are You gone Mad brother?
...man soft wannabe Muslims piss me off.. you kind of communist tools.. and for World sake.. stop shaving and take this discussing red rope around Your neclk away, you political student boy-kid
(or Allah, One God, Vanajumal, Original God of Estonia with who we worked up Jew's and Aztecs and our old brothers in Iran before separation to keep life )
// i make sure You can read it, You make sure to answer to me, to fix your path! In God's Name!
The political science student added that a nearby passenger overheard his conversation with his uncle and felt alarmed and proceeded to the front of the plane.
“One guy came with police officers within two minutes — I can’t believe how fast they were — and told me to get off the plane,” he told CNN.
Soon after, an Arabic-speaking Southwest Airlines employee of came to his seat and escorted him off the plane a few minutes after his call ended, he said. The man introduced himself in Arabic and then switched to English to ask, “Why were you speaking Arabic in the plane?”
Makhzoomi was afraid, and that the employee spoke to him “like I was an animal.”
FBI agents escorted him away. He was not allowed to reboard the Oakland-bound plane and was forced to book a flight on another airline.
This experience left him shaken and only adds to the bad memories.
“The US is the land of freedom. People respect the rule of law. How could people be humiliated like this? That was the real shock,” he told The Independent.
A complaint with the US Department of Transportation Office of Aviation Enforcement and Proceedings against Southwest Airlines for “racial and religious profiling of a Muslim passenger” has been filed by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfilaKrnAhQ (what i a world are these subtytles in there?)
-
FUll:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QllFV4D-PE
// You Makhzoomi should have thanked God Jehovah for providing You with opportunity to get something little bit real in safe way..
and You turn it to bitching, instead turn it to teach some manners to FBI and about god to others who You call up.
God send them to test Your faith, ... and it seems You have none.
LOOKING HUMAN LAW PROTECTION FOR GOD's world?
On 21'st century, are You gone Mad brother?
...man soft wannabe Muslims piss me off.. you kind of communist tools.. and for World sake.. stop shaving and take this discussing red rope around Your neclk away, you political student boy-kid
(or Allah, One God, Vanajumal, Original God of Estonia with who we worked up Jew's and Aztecs and our old brothers in Iran before separation to keep life )
// i make sure You can read it, You make sure to answer to me, to fix your path! In God's Name!
4 November 2016 21:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
how can people not involved with any shamanic knowledge even have any authority to speak publicly about space ?
What is wrong with a world allowing that
What is wrong with a world allowing that
4 November 2016 20:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
Diferent dinmension... infect with a poison.. ... last pidgin..2034 or when was it again whenwe keep going to transhumanist way?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Sd5c4o9UM
Diferent dinmension... infect with a poison.. ... last pidgin..2034 or when was it again whenwe keep going to transhumanist way?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Sd5c4o9UM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Sd5c4o9UM
4 November 2016 20:49
Margus Meigo commented on Tao Odysseus Westermann's post.
.:.
Diferent dimension...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Sd5c4o9UM
Diferent dimension...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Sd5c4o9UM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Sd5c4o9UM
4 November 2016 20:46
Margus Meigo commented on Tao Odysseus Westermann's post.
What kind of silly idea, “should not have effect on us” (because it is "far away" AND "we not know what it is" )
when we CAN SEE from here… "with our 200 years old tec.."
have You not learn, that what WE can see, then .. just on basic absorver knowledge..,,
Are these people like for real..
do they really think others only travel by same limitations of physics and time (as this what we imagine to exist only) ?
have they considered that there is a body's larder then light-year?
when we CAN SEE from here… "with our 200 years old tec.."
have You not learn, that what WE can see, then .. just on basic absorver knowledge..,,
Are these people like for real..
do they really think others only travel by same limitations of physics and time (as this what we imagine to exist only) ?
have they considered that there is a body's larder then light-year?
4 November 2016 20:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this style has ben ordinary natural style for Estonians on past 5000 years
4 November 2016 20:17
Margus Meigo commented on Tao Odysseus Westermann's post.
This is more the kind of room and home i call "real"
4 November 2016 20:16
Margus Meigo commented on Tao Odysseus Westermann's post.
Why would anyone make these numbers last thousand exact ? And even to the last digit..
You know, we all know it is impossible.. to know by the numbers.. so WHY to do it like that..
You know, we all know it is impossible.. to know by the numbers.. so WHY to do it like that..
4 November 2016 20:14
Margus Meigo commented on Tao Odysseus Westermann's post.
Pentagrams..
4 November 2016 20:06
Margus Meigo replied to David Ewart's comment.
not sure but Poli - means City in greek and
Zei stands for: "The Center for European Integration" for unsolved issues
So some kind of task force to protect Caucasian city from the integration of..?
"The Center for European Integration Studies (ZEI) provides future oriented research on unresolved issues of European integration and the global role of Europe."
https://www.zei.uni-bonn.de/about-zei
Zei stands for: "The Center for European Integration" for unsolved issues
So some kind of task force to protect Caucasian city from the integration of..?
"The Center for European Integration Studies (ZEI) provides future oriented research on unresolved issues of European integration and the global role of Europe."
https://www.zei.uni-bonn.de/about-zei
https://www.zei.uni-bonn.de/about-zei
4 November 2016 19:54
Margus Meigo replied to Lele Reinsoo's comment.
Are You sure ?
Kindel ?
Kindel ?
4 November 2016 19:45
Margus Meigo replied to Bernardo Terenzi's comment.
well, maybe, if You look reaaally spiritually.
4 November 2016 19:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
someone from REAL parents
4 November 2016 19:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
you know real ones, who eat magic mushrooms, build wooden houses and grow food.
And who know that bible and matriarchy is the way
And who know that bible and matriarchy is the way
4 November 2016 19:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
samas see võlts-juudi (mitte päris juutide) portaali lingid toimivad hästi.. islami meelne korralik ausam leht, mitte odava propakanda oma, aga ei toimi hmm'
4 November 2016 19:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja muidugi see eelmine leht ei "nemable" ennast FB lehel millegi pärast, veider eks
4 November 2016 19:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lisaks veel:
Mine Sa tea..
http://www.siasat.com/news/catholic-cardinal-admits-mohammed-pbuh-true-prophet-god-1038881/
Mine Sa tea..
http://www.siasat.com/news/catholic-cardinal-admits-mohammed-pbuh-true-prophet-god-1038881/
4 November 2016 19:14
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Aaslo's post.
Eestikeeles siis:
Väga hea, saavatki arukamaks,
ja kui nad kristlased või juudid on päriselt, või mMaausku targad, siis neid see arendab mitte ei ohusta ja neil siis võimalus koolis islami usku targemaks veel arendada iseenda läbi õigesti käituma jääda ja teiste kultuuri lähenemise läbi jumalale jumalat edasi teenida, seda muu kahe Abrahami ja Looduse usu vahele edasi arendades, enda oleku ja teamdistega,
kui teadmised, olek ja seisukoht puuduvad, siis VÄGA hea ja Suur õnnistus, et neil võimalus sellestki osa saada.
Käisin ise ka ikka sauna kultuuri ja Juudi usust kuni shamanismi ja kristluseni mosheedes promomas, jutuajamised olid alati tõsisemad, sügavamad, pikemad ja rohkemate inimestega kui üheski Luteri või Church of England kohitsetud kirikus,
Õigeusu ja Katoliku omades, sai ka ikka suts pikemat räägitud
Katoliiklased Eestis
Väga hea, saavatki arukamaks,
ja kui nad kristlased või juudid on päriselt, või mMaausku targad, siis neid see arendab mitte ei ohusta ja neil siis võimalus koolis islami usku targemaks veel arendada iseenda läbi õigesti käituma jääda ja teiste kultuuri lähenemise läbi jumalale jumalat edasi teenida, seda muu kahe Abrahami ja Looduse usu vahele edasi arendades, enda oleku ja teamdistega,
kui teadmised, olek ja seisukoht puuduvad, siis VÄGA hea ja Suur õnnistus, et neil võimalus sellestki osa saada.
Käisin ise ka ikka sauna kultuuri ja Juudi usust kuni shamanismi ja kristluseni mosheedes promomas, jutuajamised olid alati tõsisemad, sügavamad, pikemad ja rohkemate inimestega kui üheski Luteri või Church of England kohitsetud kirikus,
Õigeusu ja Katoliku omades, sai ka ikka suts pikemat räägitud
Katoliiklased Eestis
4 November 2016 18:32
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Aaslo's post.
That's good, lucky children
as long they have Christian parents explain, that Allah is Jehovah, is same, and only one god,
and if them do not have religious parents, then giving them opportunity to pray is Way better then letting them go to soul selling road,
If people are so weak and godless, that they feel threatened by this, then they have no REAL god inside them and they are blessed for Islam gifting them with some kind of morals and spiritual connection.
Only thing white people have to to, or whatever-color, who does not "feel Muslim", they have to learn what regions was first, from what come what and where (in heart) god is located.
Also they have to learn basic, supremacy of of Christianity over Islam and Hebrew peoples written Torah over Christianity,
even thought, the bible is on the Center, as unmovable strongest cornerstone by what time is fixed globally in this planet, for ever,
get used to it.
ONly other earth beings in direct domination of human government can change that order by coming to here and interfere with order that is put in place after 5000 years work .
And last one is not really a big thing to do, in... inshAllah !
as long they have Christian parents explain, that Allah is Jehovah, is same, and only one god,
and if them do not have religious parents, then giving them opportunity to pray is Way better then letting them go to soul selling road,
If people are so weak and godless, that they feel threatened by this, then they have no REAL god inside them and they are blessed for Islam gifting them with some kind of morals and spiritual connection.
Only thing white people have to to, or whatever-color, who does not "feel Muslim", they have to learn what regions was first, from what come what and where (in heart) god is located.
Also they have to learn basic, supremacy of of Christianity over Islam and Hebrew peoples written Torah over Christianity,
even thought, the bible is on the Center, as unmovable strongest cornerstone by what time is fixed globally in this planet, for ever,
get used to it.
ONly other earth beings in direct domination of human government can change that order by coming to here and interfere with order that is put in place after 5000 years work .
And last one is not really a big thing to do, in... inshAllah !
4 November 2016 18:24
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
mmm mille osas need geeniused lambad siis on ?
4 November 2016 18:06
Margus Meigo replied to Kristopher Rikken's comment.
Really good try!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsdy_rct6uo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsdy_rct6uo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsdy_rct6uo
4 November 2016 18:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i did send this note also to N. Korea, i hope He got the message and we can start a business
4 November 2016 15:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
On Photo,women Cryng: "Please, fix Your haircut Kim.. we please You ... on our Kingdom name..my love.."
4 November 2016 15:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nagu ikka, selleks, et harida
IN the end it made sense:
" There's no sum when
you're not a part "
Even if not true
IN the end it made sense:
" There's no sum when
you're not a part "
Even if not true
4 November 2016 14:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
APEX PREDATOR-EASY MEAT (2015) Lyrics:
Crunch a number,
grinds your gears
Crunch a number,
root out a stiff
then tightly squeeze
Wretch after wretch
Non-expressive matter
designated to perish
Smash a single digit
Wretch follows wretch
Cleave to progress, rotate the cull
Cleave to progress, this ranks
lower than collateral
Louse after louse
Non-reflective minions
who must labour and perish
Smash a single digit
Louse follows louse
As there is no lower to plunge
No heed is paid to consequences
There's no sum when
you're not a part
http://www.musictory.com/music/Napalm+Death/Smash+A+Single+Digit
Crunch a number,
grinds your gears
Crunch a number,
root out a stiff
then tightly squeeze
Wretch after wretch
Non-expressive matter
designated to perish
Smash a single digit
Wretch follows wretch
Cleave to progress, rotate the cull
Cleave to progress, this ranks
lower than collateral
Louse after louse
Non-reflective minions
who must labour and perish
Smash a single digit
Louse follows louse
As there is no lower to plunge
No heed is paid to consequences
There's no sum when
you're not a part
http://www.musictory.com/music/Napalm+Death/Smash+A+Single+Digit
http://www.musictory.com/music/Napalm+Death/Smash+A+Single+Digit
4 November 2016 14:57
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
well, 1% is better then none right..
4 November 2016 10:58
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
it is true also what Christians say,
these ones who know, what can be damage if people try to imagine they can overcome evil with technology with out love
these ones who know, what can be damage if people try to imagine they can overcome evil with technology with out love
4 November 2016 10:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but these who she have meet, the half humans who keep drinking, smoking, swearing, anti-god people, beating women or lowering standards for human species.. yes... it is a problem genetically, and many other way.. how to handle this weapons against humanity..
4 November 2016 10:55
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
Well,
She has not meet REAL white man unfortunately then
She has not meet REAL white man unfortunately then
4 November 2016 10:53
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
I want to help King Kim
4 November 2016 10:51
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
It is Global Patriarchy vs. Matriarchy finals, after 5000 years (and if business people get top then these rocks can be turned in to road filling or building stone with ease),
i think to focus on these things the candidates would hurt them self.. as in the end, it will be turned against them, for most.. so yeah., people behind these issues should a bit look bigger picture,
specially taking in to account, that them not know the real spiritual meaning of these locations
i think to focus on these things the candidates would hurt them self.. as in the end, it will be turned against them, for most.. so yeah., people behind these issues should a bit look bigger picture,
specially taking in to account, that them not know the real spiritual meaning of these locations
4 November 2016 10:51
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
Well, ironic that Russia is working hard to get Trump elected..
wonder why.
Because of money and business, and because all the skeletons in closet and many business channels that FSB can use to blackmail hell out of United States, with ease
... they can make Trump Cry with ease, but Clinton can make most of the crooked man cry..
wonder why.
Because of money and business, and because all the skeletons in closet and many business channels that FSB can use to blackmail hell out of United States, with ease
... they can make Trump Cry with ease, but Clinton can make most of the crooked man cry..
4 November 2016 10:47
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
But yes, it is also good for education, to see what is,
depends how the movie is tuned and why,
for protection or for many and attack (last 2 ois related, as it rings more money if movie is attacking human as then "effect" is greater.. but if people would only know...)
depends how the movie is tuned and why,
for protection or for many and attack (last 2 ois related, as it rings more money if movie is attacking human as then "effect" is greater.. but if people would only know...)
4 November 2016 10:45
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
it is actually damaging for women mind and is making women less of a women, as their brain gets alerted and tuned in, prepared for horrors that does not exist,
besides there is many horrors filled with real dark magic (and technological, psychological dark magic) that can access humans or open inside mind a doors (tuning Your brain to think in a way that unlocks protections, so another type of waves and beings can access and relate, manipulate you in to temporally fear.. and ... well.. it usually just adds up to a slavery )
besides there is many horrors filled with real dark magic (and technological, psychological dark magic) that can access humans or open inside mind a doors (tuning Your brain to think in a way that unlocks protections, so another type of waves and beings can access and relate, manipulate you in to temporally fear.. and ... well.. it usually just adds up to a slavery )
4 November 2016 10:43
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
Not funny, as some "people" rreally do think like that
4 November 2016 10:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
You PreForgiven forever
4 November 2016 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on Tao Odysseus Westermann's post.
well... look even more red...
4 November 2016 02:48
Margus Meigo commented on Tao Odysseus Westermann's post.
4 November 2016 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
yes,
him (hidden in comment) :
him (hidden in comment) :
4 November 2016 02:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//Elementary, the SYSTEM is ONE, the ones who made it, and they made it to have 2 sides, and divide the sides between them self, this is elementary ... innit ?//
.:.
“It’s not about the Republicans, or the Democrats, you understand. They’re two heads on the same beast”
--
James B. Marlow is a small framed man confined to an electric wheel chair. He has spent the last 30 years working in Washington, DC. for the Central Counting Facility where countless voter’s ballets pass through during each election.
He began his career in 1965 as the low man on the totem pole, however, his hard work and determination eventually paid off, and he was quickly promoted through the ranks, finally becoming a supervisor in 1971.
That’s when Marlow claims he was approached by several Government officials who used threats against his family to dismiss the actual votes, and report the predetermined numbers to maintain successive fraudulent elections.
His sobering claims should concern every American who still believes in democracy, and it is especially frightening given the accusations against Clinton that she will rig the election.
.:.
“It’s not about the Republicans, or the Democrats, you understand. They’re two heads on the same beast”
--
James B. Marlow is a small framed man confined to an electric wheel chair. He has spent the last 30 years working in Washington, DC. for the Central Counting Facility where countless voter’s ballets pass through during each election.
He began his career in 1965 as the low man on the totem pole, however, his hard work and determination eventually paid off, and he was quickly promoted through the ranks, finally becoming a supervisor in 1971.
That’s when Marlow claims he was approached by several Government officials who used threats against his family to dismiss the actual votes, and report the predetermined numbers to maintain successive fraudulent elections.
His sobering claims should concern every American who still believes in democracy, and it is especially frightening given the accusations against Clinton that she will rig the election.
4 November 2016 02:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
“Every election since John F. Kennedy has been predetermined, and unfortunately, I have helped to facilitate this horrible corruption against the American people, and for that I am deeply, deeply sorry.”
Marlow eventually retired, and moved to Kentucky in 2007 due to health issues. He claims to have seen a dozen presidents come and go, all of them decided long before the elections ever took place.
“I cannot speak for local branches of government,” Marlow states, “The men and women controlling the country aren’t concerned as much about who occupies seats. I’m sure there’s corruption, but it’s not on the same scale as what you’ll find in the federal government. The American government as we know is a ploy, and quite a brilliant one at that, to keep people permanently divided with the opposing political parties.”
---
"On the surface the nominees seem as though they are opposing sides of the political spectrum. That’s all theater. Smoke and mirrors. Behind the curtain, all of these people are associates, even friends. They put on a good show but they all understand what the ultimate outcome will be.”
---
“I went along with the program for so long out of fear for my friends and family, and what the people who are really in charge are capable of. I am now at an age where I can see the damage this monumental ruse has caused within out society and our country. God willing, I’ve got a few more years left in me, and I don’t want to spend my final years enduring the guilt which has resulted from carrying these secrets on my conscious for so long. That’s why I’ve decided to come forward… To try and pull back the curtain and expose this pageant of deception for what it truly is: a game. And one that’s played using every citizen of our beautiful country. In my final years here on the planet I want to inform the people of this nation, whoever will listen, what is going on inside their government.”
As per the advice of his lawyer, Marlow refuses to give the names of the individuals he alleges have rigged American elections since the late 60’s.
“There is a small group of individuals who were privy to this information. These parties control all major aspects of this country. These cloak and dagger antics are kept quiet upon the threat of death. They use blackmail. Coercion. Even outright threats of violence. I’m old, though. Death is of no consequence to me anymore… I have to let people know”, Marlow continued, “JFK was the last president to be truly elected by the American people. When the powers-that-be approached Kennedy, offering him a small fortune to forfeit his second term, John was deeply insulted, and intended to expose these people’s corruption. JFK was utterly loyal to America. He paid for that loyalty with his life. I’ve always knew the men I worked for were responsible for JFK’s assassination and it terrified everyone that these individuals could kill a president. What would stop them from killing one of my loved ones. I think that’s how everyone who knew about this felt. Like it was already too late. That I was already in too deep.”
---
baltimoregazette.com/former-presidential-ballot-supervisor-claims-election-predetermined-since-jfk/#comments
Marlow eventually retired, and moved to Kentucky in 2007 due to health issues. He claims to have seen a dozen presidents come and go, all of them decided long before the elections ever took place.
“I cannot speak for local branches of government,” Marlow states, “The men and women controlling the country aren’t concerned as much about who occupies seats. I’m sure there’s corruption, but it’s not on the same scale as what you’ll find in the federal government. The American government as we know is a ploy, and quite a brilliant one at that, to keep people permanently divided with the opposing political parties.”
---
"On the surface the nominees seem as though they are opposing sides of the political spectrum. That’s all theater. Smoke and mirrors. Behind the curtain, all of these people are associates, even friends. They put on a good show but they all understand what the ultimate outcome will be.”
---
“I went along with the program for so long out of fear for my friends and family, and what the people who are really in charge are capable of. I am now at an age where I can see the damage this monumental ruse has caused within out society and our country. God willing, I’ve got a few more years left in me, and I don’t want to spend my final years enduring the guilt which has resulted from carrying these secrets on my conscious for so long. That’s why I’ve decided to come forward… To try and pull back the curtain and expose this pageant of deception for what it truly is: a game. And one that’s played using every citizen of our beautiful country. In my final years here on the planet I want to inform the people of this nation, whoever will listen, what is going on inside their government.”
As per the advice of his lawyer, Marlow refuses to give the names of the individuals he alleges have rigged American elections since the late 60’s.
“There is a small group of individuals who were privy to this information. These parties control all major aspects of this country. These cloak and dagger antics are kept quiet upon the threat of death. They use blackmail. Coercion. Even outright threats of violence. I’m old, though. Death is of no consequence to me anymore… I have to let people know”, Marlow continued, “JFK was the last president to be truly elected by the American people. When the powers-that-be approached Kennedy, offering him a small fortune to forfeit his second term, John was deeply insulted, and intended to expose these people’s corruption. JFK was utterly loyal to America. He paid for that loyalty with his life. I’ve always knew the men I worked for were responsible for JFK’s assassination and it terrified everyone that these individuals could kill a president. What would stop them from killing one of my loved ones. I think that’s how everyone who knew about this felt. Like it was already too late. That I was already in too deep.”
---
baltimoregazette.com/former-presidential-ballot-supervisor-claims-election-predetermined-since-jfk/#comments
http://baltimoregazette.com/former-presidential-ballot-supervisor-claims-election-predetermined-since-jfk/#comments
4 November 2016 02:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And communists keep bombing with sharing things like that with out explaining, WHY it is so... to spin up the emotions..
Whitney Webb
Read More: http://www.trueactivist.com/nbc-local-news-accidentally-posts-us-election-results-a-week-early-shows-a-clinton-win/
Whitney Webb
Read More: http://www.trueactivist.com/nbc-local-news-accidentally-posts-us-election-results-a-week-early-shows-a-clinton-win/
http://www.trueactivist.com/nbc-local-news-accidentally-posts-us-election-results-a-week-early-shows-a-clinton-win/
4 November 2016 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on Joanna Kossak's post.
Group: Shamanic Activism
Yes, we also have been high
Wester Hippi4 November 2016 01:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
he does look little bit gey'sh on that scarf..
in spiritual world that is actually also a sing of man soul and values castrated, softened
but this might be just to much reading in to..
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/03/31/steven-seagal-praises-putin-slams-america-idiotic-ukraine-policy.html
in spiritual world that is actually also a sing of man soul and values castrated, softened
but this might be just to much reading in to..
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/03/31/steven-seagal-praises-putin-slams-america-idiotic-ukraine-policy.html
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/03/31/steven-seagal-praises-putin-slams-america-idiotic-ukraine-policy.html
3 November 2016 23:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Why?
The bizarre match up was posed by China's deputy prime minister Wang Yang on the final day of a meeting of nations in eastern Russia, while the three were being taken on a tour of an aquarium.
Putin, a long-time friend of Seagal, has regularly taken to the martial arts mat but decided against fighting the star action films such as Under Siege.
Seagal has in the past defended Russia's invasion of Crimea and even performed a concert for pro-separatists.
The Russian leader, 62, appeared as a celebrity guest at a special Russian martial arts competition earlier this year and has previously joked of a bout with Seagal.
The Hollywood action hero, 63, is one of the president's favourite showbiz friends and is a regular visitor to Russia.
The suggestion was made on the final day of the Eastern Economic Forum in Vladivostok, during a tour of one of the biggest aquariums in the world when it opens in 2016.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/603611/Vladimir-Putin-martial-arts-fight-Hollywood-Steven-Seagal
The bizarre match up was posed by China's deputy prime minister Wang Yang on the final day of a meeting of nations in eastern Russia, while the three were being taken on a tour of an aquarium.
Putin, a long-time friend of Seagal, has regularly taken to the martial arts mat but decided against fighting the star action films such as Under Siege.
Seagal has in the past defended Russia's invasion of Crimea and even performed a concert for pro-separatists.
The Russian leader, 62, appeared as a celebrity guest at a special Russian martial arts competition earlier this year and has previously joked of a bout with Seagal.
The Hollywood action hero, 63, is one of the president's favourite showbiz friends and is a regular visitor to Russia.
The suggestion was made on the final day of the Eastern Economic Forum in Vladivostok, during a tour of one of the biggest aquariums in the world when it opens in 2016.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/603611/Vladimir-Putin-martial-arts-fight-Hollywood-Steven-Seagal
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/603611/Vladimir-Putin-martial-arts-fight-Hollywood-Steven-Seagal
3 November 2016 23:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
3 November 2016 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i actually even like that color .. but people in common say...
just saying..
just saying..
3 November 2016 23:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i wish we can save this land that is under Russia territory soon,
as my father has been predicting and ensuring, as was with Union collapse (that was just elementary for him) that there is left of FSB (Russia) in future as much as You can see from the Top of the Kremil tower,
at best case, my mother would most likely ad.
---
Man, these people there, who are not jet taken over spiritually, are awesome in there why they have to have fate like this..
as my father has been predicting and ensuring, as was with Union collapse (that was just elementary for him) that there is left of FSB (Russia) in future as much as You can see from the Top of the Kremil tower,
at best case, my mother would most likely ad.
---
Man, these people there, who are not jet taken over spiritually, are awesome in there why they have to have fate like this..
3 November 2016 23:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but His Wife is worrying.. before divorce:
"Melania Trump, whose husband has built a public profile partly around his vulgar and offensive Twitter account, called for a gentler and kinder America today, where children can spend time on social media without fear of harassment.
In a rare public appearance, Trump portrayed her husband as a devoted family man with “deep love and respect” for all Americans with a speech intended to help soften his public image with women.
“Our culture has gotten too mean and too rough, especially to children and teenagers,” Trump said at a sports center in Berwyn, a suburb of Philadelphia suburb. She drew cheers as she continued.
“It is never OK when a 12-year-old girl or boy is mocked, bullied or attacked. It is terrible when that happens on the playground and it is absolutely unacceptable when it’s done by someone with no name hiding on the internet.”
As first lady, Melania Trump said she would work to combat online bullying and harassment. As a presidential nominee, Donald Trump has used Twitter to mock and degrade his opponent and women who have criticized him. He also has a pattern of sharing posts from sources with a history of spreading racism, antisemitism or white supremacy.
Melania Trump’s speech was a direct appeal to suburban women who remain wary of the Republican nominee. His dire standing with women, and especially with white educated women who have been a cornerstone of Republican support, has imperiled his chances of winning key battleground states like Pennsylvania.
Melania Trump takes on cyberbullying: 'Our culture has gotten too mean'
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/nov/03/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-melania-us-election-2016-news-live
God Bless Her with something good!
"Melania Trump, whose husband has built a public profile partly around his vulgar and offensive Twitter account, called for a gentler and kinder America today, where children can spend time on social media without fear of harassment.
In a rare public appearance, Trump portrayed her husband as a devoted family man with “deep love and respect” for all Americans with a speech intended to help soften his public image with women.
“Our culture has gotten too mean and too rough, especially to children and teenagers,” Trump said at a sports center in Berwyn, a suburb of Philadelphia suburb. She drew cheers as she continued.
“It is never OK when a 12-year-old girl or boy is mocked, bullied or attacked. It is terrible when that happens on the playground and it is absolutely unacceptable when it’s done by someone with no name hiding on the internet.”
As first lady, Melania Trump said she would work to combat online bullying and harassment. As a presidential nominee, Donald Trump has used Twitter to mock and degrade his opponent and women who have criticized him. He also has a pattern of sharing posts from sources with a history of spreading racism, antisemitism or white supremacy.
Melania Trump’s speech was a direct appeal to suburban women who remain wary of the Republican nominee. His dire standing with women, and especially with white educated women who have been a cornerstone of Republican support, has imperiled his chances of winning key battleground states like Pennsylvania.
Melania Trump takes on cyberbullying: 'Our culture has gotten too mean'
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/nov/03/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-melania-us-election-2016-news-live
God Bless Her with something good!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/nov/03/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-melania-us-election-2016-news-live
3 November 2016 23:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Also take look at this book:
Shamaani Rüü
Shamaani Rüü
3 November 2016 23:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but yeah.. same time they was into dreams how robot can order our life in great big future that only soviets with pentagram can bring..
But the actual projects and truths was much much harder and deeper, darker...
and Estonia's was and is much much smarter then is possible to talk in current accepted scientific world about forces and techniques.. about how to save the future, of Human species and nature...
How to manage something so large, half dark-spiritual (as their ideas are not human ideas), slow down and make them self to eliminate them self.
But the actual projects and truths was much much harder and deeper, darker...
and Estonia's was and is much much smarter then is possible to talk in current accepted scientific world about forces and techniques.. about how to save the future, of Human species and nature...
How to manage something so large, half dark-spiritual (as their ideas are not human ideas), slow down and make them self to eliminate them self.
3 November 2016 23:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this is just 0.04 % of explanation of this mass asylum... that eventually eliminated most of the hundreds of various cultures in 100 years,
And Estonia got one of the best treatments out of others who was back in Siberia or <Ukraine for dark elimination .. as already the old forced starvation they organized in Ukraine to eliminate people in cheap ways... to save bullets and to leave no mark in history books ...
And Estonia got one of the best treatments out of others who was back in Siberia or <Ukraine for dark elimination .. as already the old forced starvation they organized in Ukraine to eliminate people in cheap ways... to save bullets and to leave no mark in history books ...
3 November 2016 23:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This was common slogan shouted with pride by soviet brian washing centers, that human becomes free not by co-operating with nature but by completely annihilating Her, surrendering her to Machine will.
Also was common for them to keep homo stuff hidden and same time breaking down women and man by forcing women's to do unimaginable hard jobs, common women's, as it was a LAW in soviet union, that everyone must Work, or they will be arrested, it was not an option, that You was allowed to produce Your own food and work for Yourself only or for Your friends, .... and same time, man was forced to become soft unmanly violent drunk, (for destruction of species) by providing their workplaces with free vodga most of the time by bosses and while man was as superior and just running tractors that run autopilot from one corner of field to another one, women and children was forced to pick up rocks from a crop, for mass plantation of food that was sent also to other lands, mostly to Russia, ... for what another group of people was forced to work (before Soviet aliens come to Estonia, we had in PRE world war one an submarine, and armor trains and status was higher then in Finland ...).
Also crops was poisoned and destroyed by chemicals for crowing and "Just in case" for pesticides.. with poisons long time ago banned in normal worlds.
The rooms and houses was massively decorated extremely ugly ways with uncomfortable furniture, nice wooden houses was painted inside and put plastic all over (that eventually destroyed wood by humidity and mushoooms..)
For example, there was not a COLORS for a floor, there was in shops only one color for floor, called "Floor Color" (shit brown)
... but that wads even better then the colors that was forced in to kitchens..
Also was common for them to keep homo stuff hidden and same time breaking down women and man by forcing women's to do unimaginable hard jobs, common women's, as it was a LAW in soviet union, that everyone must Work, or they will be arrested, it was not an option, that You was allowed to produce Your own food and work for Yourself only or for Your friends, .... and same time, man was forced to become soft unmanly violent drunk, (for destruction of species) by providing their workplaces with free vodga most of the time by bosses and while man was as superior and just running tractors that run autopilot from one corner of field to another one, women and children was forced to pick up rocks from a crop, for mass plantation of food that was sent also to other lands, mostly to Russia, ... for what another group of people was forced to work (before Soviet aliens come to Estonia, we had in PRE world war one an submarine, and armor trains and status was higher then in Finland ...).
Also crops was poisoned and destroyed by chemicals for crowing and "Just in case" for pesticides.. with poisons long time ago banned in normal worlds.
The rooms and houses was massively decorated extremely ugly ways with uncomfortable furniture, nice wooden houses was painted inside and put plastic all over (that eventually destroyed wood by humidity and mushoooms..)
For example, there was not a COLORS for a floor, there was in shops only one color for floor, called "Floor Color" (shit brown)
... but that wads even better then the colors that was forced in to kitchens..
3 November 2016 23:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Bernstein proposes that Cosmism has the possibility to strengthen Russian national identity in the same way the country got jazzed about Eurasianism in the early 2000s. But with its’ blending of occult-like philosophies and reliance on technology it’s still very taboo in more conservative circles, especially among the Russian Orthodox church who aren’t ready to concede that transhumanism is the “religion of the 21st century.”
Part of the underlying tenets of Cosmism is that Russia will have a active role in controlling the future; of managing the cosmos — basically the most Kremlin-ready philosophy ever.
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/transhumanists-in-their-own-words
Part of the underlying tenets of Cosmism is that Russia will have a active role in controlling the future; of managing the cosmos — basically the most Kremlin-ready philosophy ever.
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/transhumanists-in-their-own-words
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/transhumanists-in-their-own-words
3 November 2016 22:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Seagal and 2045
While Putin has stayed mum on his Cosmist leanings, other Russians blurring the line between Cosmist and transhumanism have been more upfront with their support of a cyborg future. Russia 2045 is the project of millionaire media mogul Dmitry Itskov, whose initiative to replace biological bodies with artificial avatars may seem insane but not not-insane enough to not be profiled in the business section of The New York Times.
In a hype video that would make Michael Bay proud, Russia 2045 declares that our civilization has become like an “uncaptained ship sailing on rough seas with neither chart nor compass.” What society with our imperfect biological bodies need is the technology that will extend our lives — and could very well mean that we live forever. While the organization’s website notes that a “100 percent guarantee of implementation within a specific time cannot be provided” it does encourage people to start thinking about what robotic avatars they will prefer — a robotic copy of a human body with a brain-computer interface, a robotic body that will carry your head once your first body runs out of steam, or a “completely non-biological” body and brain onto which your consciousness has been uploaded.
Russian-identifying martial-artist Steven Seagal is a supporter of the 2045 project, and personally wrote to Vladimir Putin requesting that he support what he describes as a “social movement.” Inverse has reached out to Seagal to see if his support for the project still stands.
“For me it is obvious that this initiative will strengthen Russia’s position in world science, [and] underline Russia’s role in the international community as the country claiming leadership in setting and solving global problems for the betterment of mankind,” writes Seagal in his letter.
While Putin has stayed mum on his Cosmist leanings, other Russians blurring the line between Cosmist and transhumanism have been more upfront with their support of a cyborg future. Russia 2045 is the project of millionaire media mogul Dmitry Itskov, whose initiative to replace biological bodies with artificial avatars may seem insane but not not-insane enough to not be profiled in the business section of The New York Times.
In a hype video that would make Michael Bay proud, Russia 2045 declares that our civilization has become like an “uncaptained ship sailing on rough seas with neither chart nor compass.” What society with our imperfect biological bodies need is the technology that will extend our lives — and could very well mean that we live forever. While the organization’s website notes that a “100 percent guarantee of implementation within a specific time cannot be provided” it does encourage people to start thinking about what robotic avatars they will prefer — a robotic copy of a human body with a brain-computer interface, a robotic body that will carry your head once your first body runs out of steam, or a “completely non-biological” body and brain onto which your consciousness has been uploaded.
Russian-identifying martial-artist Steven Seagal is a supporter of the 2045 project, and personally wrote to Vladimir Putin requesting that he support what he describes as a “social movement.” Inverse has reached out to Seagal to see if his support for the project still stands.
“For me it is obvious that this initiative will strengthen Russia’s position in world science, [and] underline Russia’s role in the international community as the country claiming leadership in setting and solving global problems for the betterment of mankind,” writes Seagal in his letter.
3 November 2016 22:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The Russian Cosmists were late nineteenth and early twentieth century thinkers, whose philosophy, according to anthropologist Anya Bernstein, proposed a “unique combination of scientific and occult ideas.”"
"Soviet period, those who protected their works were devoted to the idea of “transcendence of space, time, and the body, mastery of nature, settlement of the outer space, and even the resurrection of the dead.”
"In the book The Russian Cosmists author George Young writes that many Cosmists believed their philosophy could satisfy the “Russian soul” and considered their ways of thinking to be patriotic. Cosmist theology — it has more than a tinge of the religious to it — centers around the idea of a bold, happy future controlled by Russia."
The Western transhumanists, the cryonicists, the immortalists, and certain new age spiritual movements share some Cosmist idea and practices and present the closest foreign analog.
A resurgence in the popularity of the Cosmist ideas and writings in Russia has led Bernstein to question whether the way of thinking is now “a nationalist movement, indeed, a new Russian idea.” She points to the recent firing of the editor of the journal Russian Planet for failing to use the platform to reflect Russia’s preeminence as a cultured nation. The firing offense? He didn’t reference the Cosmists enough.
Bernstein also raises the point of Vladimir Putin. While neither President Putin or the Russian government has ever offered official support of the Cosmist way of thinking, some truthers have taken to analyzing the Russian leader’s public statements. In a December speech the President announced, “We all want the same thing: well-being for Russia. So the relations between business and the state should be built on the philosophy of the common task, partnership, and equal dialogue. The Philosophy of the Common Task was the title of collected works of Cosmist icon Nikolai Fedorov so in the words of conspiracy theorists everywhere, you do the math. Actual endorsement notwithstanding, a philosophy that encourages cracking the code to live forever certainly seems on brand for Putin. Some cartoonists have joked that Putin supports Cosmist/transhumanist initiatives so that he can extend his life enough to keep running for President.
This means we could see a robo-President hunt a tiger in our lifetime.
https://www.inverse.com/article/10391-in-russia-transhumanism-is-basically-patriotism-via-self-improvement
"Soviet period, those who protected their works were devoted to the idea of “transcendence of space, time, and the body, mastery of nature, settlement of the outer space, and even the resurrection of the dead.”
"In the book The Russian Cosmists author George Young writes that many Cosmists believed their philosophy could satisfy the “Russian soul” and considered their ways of thinking to be patriotic. Cosmist theology — it has more than a tinge of the religious to it — centers around the idea of a bold, happy future controlled by Russia."
The Western transhumanists, the cryonicists, the immortalists, and certain new age spiritual movements share some Cosmist idea and practices and present the closest foreign analog.
A resurgence in the popularity of the Cosmist ideas and writings in Russia has led Bernstein to question whether the way of thinking is now “a nationalist movement, indeed, a new Russian idea.” She points to the recent firing of the editor of the journal Russian Planet for failing to use the platform to reflect Russia’s preeminence as a cultured nation. The firing offense? He didn’t reference the Cosmists enough.
Bernstein also raises the point of Vladimir Putin. While neither President Putin or the Russian government has ever offered official support of the Cosmist way of thinking, some truthers have taken to analyzing the Russian leader’s public statements. In a December speech the President announced, “We all want the same thing: well-being for Russia. So the relations between business and the state should be built on the philosophy of the common task, partnership, and equal dialogue. The Philosophy of the Common Task was the title of collected works of Cosmist icon Nikolai Fedorov so in the words of conspiracy theorists everywhere, you do the math. Actual endorsement notwithstanding, a philosophy that encourages cracking the code to live forever certainly seems on brand for Putin. Some cartoonists have joked that Putin supports Cosmist/transhumanist initiatives so that he can extend his life enough to keep running for President.
This means we could see a robo-President hunt a tiger in our lifetime.
https://www.inverse.com/article/10391-in-russia-transhumanism-is-basically-patriotism-via-self-improvement
https://www.inverse.com/article/10391-in-russia-transhumanism-is-basically-patriotism-via-self-improvement
3 November 2016 22:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
."what has really rankled Estonians was Seagal's comment that Russia's annexation of Crimea was "entirely reasonable".
"We hoped the Estonian public would first and foremost see Steven Seagal as an actor and a musician. It turns out what they saw was rather a politician and a henchman," festival director Indrek Ditman said in a press release. "To many in Estonia, it came as a major surprise that the action movie hero is a blues musician. Likewise, the organisers and numerous others were unpleasantly surprised by his political views and public statements."
There's no word yet on who will replace him at Augustibluus.
The announcement of Seagal's headlining slot at Augustibluus, a blues festival held the beginning of August in the western town of Haapsalu for over 20 years, was met with a swift outcry, with Estonian rock singer Tõnis Mägi calling for a boycott. Estonia's foreign minister, Urmas Paet, told the Tallinn daily Delfi: "Steven Seagal has become active in politics in the last few months in a manner not befitting a world which honours states based on the rule of law."
The Soviet occupation of Estonia after the Second World War saw mass deportations of Estonians to Siberian gulags and general misery. Many Estonians conflate the Soviet Union with Russia and the fear of Russian tanks rolling over the horizon has never really abated.
The Ukraine crisis has made citizens and policymakers nervous, as Estonia has a sizable ethnic Russian minority and Putin's call to protect Russian populations in post-Soviet states has triggered alarm bells.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/jul/20/steven-seagal-dropped-estonia-augustibluus-festival
"We hoped the Estonian public would first and foremost see Steven Seagal as an actor and a musician. It turns out what they saw was rather a politician and a henchman," festival director Indrek Ditman said in a press release. "To many in Estonia, it came as a major surprise that the action movie hero is a blues musician. Likewise, the organisers and numerous others were unpleasantly surprised by his political views and public statements."
There's no word yet on who will replace him at Augustibluus.
The announcement of Seagal's headlining slot at Augustibluus, a blues festival held the beginning of August in the western town of Haapsalu for over 20 years, was met with a swift outcry, with Estonian rock singer Tõnis Mägi calling for a boycott. Estonia's foreign minister, Urmas Paet, told the Tallinn daily Delfi: "Steven Seagal has become active in politics in the last few months in a manner not befitting a world which honours states based on the rule of law."
The Soviet occupation of Estonia after the Second World War saw mass deportations of Estonians to Siberian gulags and general misery. Many Estonians conflate the Soviet Union with Russia and the fear of Russian tanks rolling over the horizon has never really abated.
The Ukraine crisis has made citizens and policymakers nervous, as Estonia has a sizable ethnic Russian minority and Putin's call to protect Russian populations in post-Soviet states has triggered alarm bells.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/jul/20/steven-seagal-dropped-estonia-augustibluus-festival
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/jul/20/steven-seagal-dropped-estonia-augustibluus-festival
3 November 2016 22:41
Margus Meigo commented on Fredma Carvona Henry's post.
You Wellcome!
3 November 2016 21:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 November 2016 21:41
Margus Meigo commented on D Keith Dobson Jr.'s post.
Innit demonCrazy wonderful:
"He was declared insane and put into an asylum. In 1985, he was deported back to Japan, where they found him sane, but evil. However, the French authorities refused to hand over the evidence needed for a criminal trial. Since the Japanese authorities had declared him sane and could not try him as a criminal, Sagawa became a free man. "
and how in a world .. freaking France gov, refused to hand over evidence, like for real? Why would anyone do like this..
But still hands up for Japan, for having in court a common sense that allows declare people as Evil
"He was declared insane and put into an asylum. In 1985, he was deported back to Japan, where they found him sane, but evil. However, the French authorities refused to hand over the evidence needed for a criminal trial. Since the Japanese authorities had declared him sane and could not try him as a criminal, Sagawa became a free man. "
and how in a world .. freaking France gov, refused to hand over evidence, like for real? Why would anyone do like this..
But still hands up for Japan, for having in court a common sense that allows declare people as Evil
3 November 2016 21:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
he was really senseire about it and most other whites from street noded, as like he talked sense
He added, as he got great education, that protein is protein and it is just some silly taboo what people have invented in their head, that is not eatable
He added, as he got great education, that protein is protein and it is just some silly taboo what people have invented in their head, that is not eatable
3 November 2016 21:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i try to explain that noo.... besides there is a lot of grass and even if not.. is better to die really.. as most people have done so far.. who not weak and not afraid to die ...
but he was like "Suuuure, keep talking... well, then you will be eaten! "
but he was like "Suuuure, keep talking... well, then you will be eaten! "
3 November 2016 21:26
Margus Meigo commented on D Keith Dobson Jr.'s post.
I lived with anarchists where popular English upper class family Nigerian guy explained, that if food is over, he newer believes that everyone would not start to eat baby's first
specially if they cooked well
specially if they cooked well
3 November 2016 21:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
:D
3 November 2016 21:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But Thank You!
3 November 2016 21:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i mean, we can edit, so message is shown a bit more,
other option would be for me to learn proper english,
that would be..
other option would be for me to learn proper english,
that would be..
3 November 2016 21:19
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
aka trumph speech
3 November 2016 19:17
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
ohh.. please please please make my English look less Russian,
next time
as goal is still to understand and others might not be tuned in to telepathically in to my mind so well
next time
as goal is still to understand and others might not be tuned in to telepathically in to my mind so well
3 November 2016 19:17
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
business is kind of global..
..
We worry about Clinton global interest that are political and humanitarian compared to global business world view.
Network, moneySpeetch..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuBe93FMiJc#t=8.600565
Clinton Smitt
..
We worry about Clinton global interest that are political and humanitarian compared to global business world view.
Network, moneySpeetch..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuBe93FMiJc#t=8.600565
Clinton Smitt
3 November 2016 19:10
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
how is it?
3 November 2016 18:55
Margus Meigo commented on Assar Järvekülg's post.
Group: Vasakpoolne liikumine
muidugi ma ei tea mis tal selle riietusega nüüüd juhtus ja juukseid ka lõiganud või.. mis ta äkki kambas ära kotttida proovitud või.. mis asja... vot loodetavasti sellel ka oma plaan ja õigus on3 November 2016 18:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Vasakpoolne liikumine
ja julge on, et teeb3 November 2016 18:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Vasakpoolne liikumine
ta teeb algusest peale uut moodi ja teistmoodi3 November 2016 18:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Vasakpoolne liikumine
päris usklik inimene ka ei oleks seda teatrit sinna mängima läinud sedasi ja siis edaspidi kaarega kirikust mööda käinud3 November 2016 18:53
Margus Meigo commented on Assar Järvekülg's post.
Group: Vasakpoolne liikumine
Kui martin luteri jumalavastane sekt, juudi vihkajatest kristlaste imiteeriad, kes arvavad et häid tegusi pole vaja teha ja ole milline iganes sõgedik... kui sellised siin hakkavad oma vabamyyrluste sidemetega presidenti suunama siis asi kahtlane jah.. parem on mitte alluda, päris jumala inimesed ise teavad mis teevad ja kuidas.3 November 2016 18:52
Margus Meigo commented on Assar Järvekülg's post.
Group: Vasakpoolne liikumine
Õnneks nad kes võimu aitasid siin Eestlaste käes säilitada, neile see ka jääb3 November 2016 18:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but then again, these who need it most,
are not hearing it anyway... so at best it can just be a
inspiration
are not hearing it anyway... so at best it can just be a
inspiration
3 November 2016 17:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And one more message from a witch woman
about politically butthurt
"look!, you unicorn riding, tree hugging freak" xD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip1Cm4jWvac
about politically butthurt
"look!, you unicorn riding, tree hugging freak" xD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip1Cm4jWvac
3 November 2016 17:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
5229041
3 November 2016 09:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
other, more links:
https://web.archive.org/web/20110111224032/http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/17/2085/59963/2/324415
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Iroquois Constitution
https://web.archive.org/web/20100707084041/http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/archaeology/artifacts/venusfigurines.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20111001212639/http://winter-rabbit.dailykos.com/
www.progressivehistorians.com/2009/04/forced-sterilizations-of-indigenous.html
www.progressivehistorians.com/2009/11/massacre-for-which-thanksgiving-is.html
www.progressivehistorians.com/2008/08/teaching-progressive-valuessept-1-5.html
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&q=women+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.progressivehistorians.com&oq=women+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.progressivehistorians.com
https://thewhatifgirl.wordpress.com/
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-lost-apostle-rena-pederson/1114316303?ean=9780787984434
https://web.archive.org/web/20110514055827/http://www.photosynthesis.com/Marija_Gimbutas.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20100910030106/http://www.answers.com/topic/mitochondrial-eve
https://web.archive.org/web/20040617074551/http://www.umanitoba.ca/anthropology/tutor/descent/unilineal/matri01.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20100826123501/http://www.myleftwing.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=16098
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matriarchy#Native_Americans
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https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/bible-questions-and-answers/who-were-the-sons-of-god-who-married-the-daughters-of
http://www.powwows.com/2014/09/10/matrilineal-societies-women-with-power-and-respect/
http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/244
https://web.archive.org/web/20100826123501/http://www.myleftwing.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=16098
https://web.archive.org/web/20101113223612/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Matriarchal_Prehistory
https://web.archive.org/web/20110111224032/http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/17/2085/59963/2/324415
-
Iroquois Constitution
https://web.archive.org/web/20100707084041/http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/archaeology/artifacts/venusfigurines.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20111001212639/http://winter-rabbit.dailykos.com/
www.progressivehistorians.com/2009/04/forced-sterilizations-of-indigenous.html
www.progressivehistorians.com/2009/11/massacre-for-which-thanksgiving-is.html
www.progressivehistorians.com/2008/08/teaching-progressive-valuessept-1-5.html
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&q=women+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.progressivehistorians.com&oq=women+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.progressivehistorians.com
https://thewhatifgirl.wordpress.com/
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-lost-apostle-rena-pederson/1114316303?ean=9780787984434
https://web.archive.org/web/20110514055827/http://www.photosynthesis.com/Marija_Gimbutas.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20100910030106/http://www.answers.com/topic/mitochondrial-eve
https://web.archive.org/web/20040617074551/http://www.umanitoba.ca/anthropology/tutor/descent/unilineal/matri01.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20100826123501/http://www.myleftwing.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=16098
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matriarchy#Native_Americans
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https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/bible-questions-and-answers/who-were-the-sons-of-god-who-married-the-daughters-of
http://www.powwows.com/2014/09/10/matrilineal-societies-women-with-power-and-respect/
http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/244
https://web.archive.org/web/20100826123501/http://www.myleftwing.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=16098
https://web.archive.org/web/20101113223612/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Matriarchal_Prehistory
3 November 2016 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and:
The Iroquois Confederacy or League, combining 5–6 Native American Haudenosaunee nations or tribes before the U.S. became a nation, operated by The Great Binding Law of Peace, a constitution by which women participated in the League's political decision-making, including deciding whether to proceed to war,[87] through what may have been a matriarchy[88] or gyneocracy.[89] According to Doug George-Kanentiio, in this society, mothers exercise central moral and political roles.[90] The dates of this constitution's operation are unknown; the League was formed in approximately 1000–1450, but the constitution was oral until written in about 1880.[91] The League still exists.
George-Kanentiio explains:
In our society, women are the center of all things. Nature, we believe, has given women the ability to create; therefore it is only natural that women be in positions of power to protect this function....We traced our clans through women; a child born into the world assumed the clan membership of its mother. Our young women were expected to be physically strong....The young women received formal instruction in traditional planting....Since the Iroquois were absolutely dependent upon the crops they grew, whoever controlled this vital activity wielded great power within our communities. It was our belief that since women were the givers of life they naturally regulated the feeding of our people....In all countries, real wealth stems from the control of land and its resources. Our Iroquois philosophers knew this as well as we knew natural law. To us it made sense for women to control the land since they were far more sensitive to the rhythms of the Mother Earth. We did not own the land but were custodians of it. Our women decided any and all issues involving territory, including where a community was to be built and how land was to be used....In our political system, we mandated full equality. Our leaders were selected by a caucus of women before the appointments were subject to popular review....Our traditional governments are composed of an equal number of men and women. The men are chiefs and the women clan-mothers....As leaders, the women closely monitor the actions of the men and retain the right to veto any law they deem inappropriate....Our women not only hold the reigns of political and economic power, they also have the right to determine all issues involving the taking of human life. Declarations of war had to be approved by the women, while treaties of peace were subject to their deliberations.[90]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois
The Iroquois Confederacy or League, combining 5–6 Native American Haudenosaunee nations or tribes before the U.S. became a nation, operated by The Great Binding Law of Peace, a constitution by which women participated in the League's political decision-making, including deciding whether to proceed to war,[87] through what may have been a matriarchy[88] or gyneocracy.[89] According to Doug George-Kanentiio, in this society, mothers exercise central moral and political roles.[90] The dates of this constitution's operation are unknown; the League was formed in approximately 1000–1450, but the constitution was oral until written in about 1880.[91] The League still exists.
George-Kanentiio explains:
In our society, women are the center of all things. Nature, we believe, has given women the ability to create; therefore it is only natural that women be in positions of power to protect this function....We traced our clans through women; a child born into the world assumed the clan membership of its mother. Our young women were expected to be physically strong....The young women received formal instruction in traditional planting....Since the Iroquois were absolutely dependent upon the crops they grew, whoever controlled this vital activity wielded great power within our communities. It was our belief that since women were the givers of life they naturally regulated the feeding of our people....In all countries, real wealth stems from the control of land and its resources. Our Iroquois philosophers knew this as well as we knew natural law. To us it made sense for women to control the land since they were far more sensitive to the rhythms of the Mother Earth. We did not own the land but were custodians of it. Our women decided any and all issues involving territory, including where a community was to be built and how land was to be used....In our political system, we mandated full equality. Our leaders were selected by a caucus of women before the appointments were subject to popular review....Our traditional governments are composed of an equal number of men and women. The men are chiefs and the women clan-mothers....As leaders, the women closely monitor the actions of the men and retain the right to veto any law they deem inappropriate....Our women not only hold the reigns of political and economic power, they also have the right to determine all issues involving the taking of human life. Declarations of war had to be approved by the women, while treaties of peace were subject to their deliberations.[90]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois
3 November 2016 02:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Anyone "forgetting" to mention Hoppi and Iroquois, is clearly on wrong track, in purpose or...
"The Hopi (in what is now the Hopi Reservation in northeastern Arizona), according to Alice Schlegel, have as a "gender ideology ... one of female superiority, and it operated within a social actuality of sexual equality."[6] According to LeBow (based on Schlegel's work), in the Hopi, "gender roles ... are egalitarian .... [and] [n]either sex is inferior."[7] LeBow concluded that Hopi women "participate fully in ... political decision-making."[8] According to Schlegel, "the Hopi no longer live as they are described here"[9] and "the attitude of female superiority is fading".[9] Schlegel said the Hopi "were and still are matrilinial"[10] and "the household ... was matrilocal".[10]
Schlegel explains why there was female superiority as that the Hopi believed in "life as the highest good ... [with] the female principle ... activated in women and in Mother Earth ... as its source"[11] and that the Hopi "were not in a state of continual war with equally matched neighbors"[12] and "had no standing army"[12] so that "the Hopi lacked the spur to masculine superiority"[12] and, within that, as that women were central to institutions of clan and household and predominated "within the economic and social systems (in contrast to male predominance within the political and ceremonial systems)",[12] the Clan Mother, for example, being empowered to overturn land distribution by men if she felt it was unfair,[11] since there was no "countervailing ... strongly centralized, male-centered political structure".[11]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matriarchy#Native_Americans
"The Hopi (in what is now the Hopi Reservation in northeastern Arizona), according to Alice Schlegel, have as a "gender ideology ... one of female superiority, and it operated within a social actuality of sexual equality."[6] According to LeBow (based on Schlegel's work), in the Hopi, "gender roles ... are egalitarian .... [and] [n]either sex is inferior."[7] LeBow concluded that Hopi women "participate fully in ... political decision-making."[8] According to Schlegel, "the Hopi no longer live as they are described here"[9] and "the attitude of female superiority is fading".[9] Schlegel said the Hopi "were and still are matrilinial"[10] and "the household ... was matrilocal".[10]
Schlegel explains why there was female superiority as that the Hopi believed in "life as the highest good ... [with] the female principle ... activated in women and in Mother Earth ... as its source"[11] and that the Hopi "were not in a state of continual war with equally matched neighbors"[12] and "had no standing army"[12] so that "the Hopi lacked the spur to masculine superiority"[12] and, within that, as that women were central to institutions of clan and household and predominated "within the economic and social systems (in contrast to male predominance within the political and ceremonial systems)",[12] the Clan Mother, for example, being empowered to overturn land distribution by men if she felt it was unfair,[11] since there was no "countervailing ... strongly centralized, male-centered political structure".[11]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matriarchy#Native_Americans
3 November 2016 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But investigation is going on : http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/comey-says-f-b-i-investigating-hillarys-ties-to-bill-clinton
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/comey-says-f-b-i-investigating-hillarys-ties-to-bill-clinton
3 November 2016 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And Trump him self is CLEARLY not conservative.
anyone thinking so does not know the word meaning,
so lets know THIS conservative who talks about trump knows..
anyone thinking so does not know the word meaning,
so lets know THIS conservative who talks about trump knows..
3 November 2016 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on Christa Mackinnon's post.
Group: Shamanic Activism
Why we have Red pentagram in here?
The main symbol that symbolized and still is the greatest Shamanik mass murderers and Matriarchal world killers .. and not as side action, but as base action3 November 2016 02:42
Margus Meigo commented on Joanna Kossak's post.
Group: Shamanic Activism
can REALLY sott.net be against Clinton?
it is impossible... unless communist completely took them ower..http://sott.net/
3 November 2016 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on Joanna Kossak's post.
Group: Shamanic Activism
I hope people keep making database of all people involved on these kind of website makings and their friends.
Also will look in to this: http://www.progressivehistorians.com/2007/11/bill-clintons-role-in-mortgage-crisis.htmlhttp://www.progressivehistorians.com/2007/11/bill-clintons-role-in-mortgage-crisis.html
3 November 2016 02:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
3 November 2016 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on Joanna Kossak's post.
Group: Shamanic Activism
You DO understand,that this is Scientology bought off "Investigators" who make this kind of fuss, to make you think things that have not happened?
You do know ,that Trump told about Scientologist "they are great people" ?
Did You read R Hubbert homo son Penthouse article on 83?3 November 2016 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on Joanna Kossak's post.
Group: Shamanic Activism
Have made various topics about it on my wall3 November 2016 02:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Lewis Henry Morgan (4+ / 0-)
Correspondent of everyone from Darwin to Karl Marx to John Wesley Powell. Most famous for his The League of the Iroquois; also instrumental in getting Ely Parker appointed as first native head of Indian Affairs (back in the 1800s when it was still in the War Department).
Less known book of his, but still in print, is Ancient Society, in which matriarchal society is a major topic. Morgan grew up in upstate New York when it was still mostly Iroquois territory, and is credited as the European who "discovered" matriarchy. (Makes sense, you always know who the mother is!) He entered correspondence with missionaries from all over the world in the 1800s, and figured out that most of the world was matriarchal then, through those letters. His correspondence is in the archives of the University of Rochester (NY). I've spent some time there reading it. Intersting stuff.
His work was the main inspiration for Frederick Engels The Origin of the Family, the State and Private Property. Written at the request of Karl Marx, after his death.
Interesting guy that Lewis Henry Morgan. He left most of his estate to the University of Rochester, expressly to be used for "the education of young women". Back when women were still being, shall we say, "discouraged" from higher education..."
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"Facinating and enlightening... (3+ / 0-)
I have a friend who taught a college class to women about their power, etc. They went home to their husbands (who were investors or involved with the university in some way, can't remember) and his students quit putting up with their husbands B.S. So, they fired my friend.
I need to look into all that you mentioned, thanks.
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"living matrilineal societies (0+ / 0-)
I come from a "noble" background. I learned to open doors for women, let them in first in line, the whole common courtesy thing of chivalry, etc. After twelve years living in the Navajo Nation, I can laugh with the ladies who laugh at me when I open doors, and defer to women in chivalrous ways. The symbolism of chivalry is obvious to me. It is restoring justice. It is restoring dignity, respect, honor, and equality. But who really means it? I love going into doors first now, but after all this time, I still cringe a little inside, feeling like a heel! Anyway, it's very cool, humbling, and very healthy for me to be living in a matrilineal society. "
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"A good place to start, (3+ / 0-)
since humans are social primates, is the research on primates and group structure.
Here's an article I found interesting:
Folia Primatologica 1998;69:81-88
Short answer: no, there have been no matriarchal societies where there is relatively easy mobility between groups. Hence, the Inuit, and some Pacific Island cultures, quite possibly have had purely matriarchal societies, but not Europe, Asia or the Middle East.
Just because we find some fertility goddesses doesn't mean that a society was matriarchal, either. The Catholic Church is riddled with female figures, but you could hardly argue that they're matriarchal. The figurines tell us more about what a culture sought to gain control over (fertility, for pastoral cultures).
Back to humans as social primates: what seems to be a factor in primates is infanticide, and defense from it. If a roving male (or a group of) manages to displace the leader of a primate group, he/they will kill all of the juveniles in that group. The reason is that the mothers will be fertile sooner if they're not nursing or caring for their young, and this will give the new leader of the group the chance to impregnate all of these females and so pass on his genes. Unsurprisingly, females evolved quite a few defenses to this, one of which is the formation of defense coalitions.
Another particularly interesting defense, in closed societies, was promiscuity. A male in a group would hardly kill an infant of a mother that he had quite possibly impregnated himself. So there have been studies done (with Macaca fuscata, that I'm aware of) that show females mate with every male in the troupe, but only with the dominant male when they're fertile. And of course, only the female knows when she's fertile, since they have hidden ovulation (as do humans, which is why...).
Signs of a successful human matriarchal society: strong female coalitions (probably with sexual contact), and promiscuity. Many children, reared communally in the group. But little to no chance of unwanted males coming in, since they would then break the fragile equilibrium created by the paternity confusion strategies (like the female orgasm).
There are a limited number of human societies which fill these conditions. Historically, the Inuit are one of the more recent.
When we are all Julian Assange, we will be free."
Correspondent of everyone from Darwin to Karl Marx to John Wesley Powell. Most famous for his The League of the Iroquois; also instrumental in getting Ely Parker appointed as first native head of Indian Affairs (back in the 1800s when it was still in the War Department).
Less known book of his, but still in print, is Ancient Society, in which matriarchal society is a major topic. Morgan grew up in upstate New York when it was still mostly Iroquois territory, and is credited as the European who "discovered" matriarchy. (Makes sense, you always know who the mother is!) He entered correspondence with missionaries from all over the world in the 1800s, and figured out that most of the world was matriarchal then, through those letters. His correspondence is in the archives of the University of Rochester (NY). I've spent some time there reading it. Intersting stuff.
His work was the main inspiration for Frederick Engels The Origin of the Family, the State and Private Property. Written at the request of Karl Marx, after his death.
Interesting guy that Lewis Henry Morgan. He left most of his estate to the University of Rochester, expressly to be used for "the education of young women". Back when women were still being, shall we say, "discouraged" from higher education..."
--
"Facinating and enlightening... (3+ / 0-)
I have a friend who taught a college class to women about their power, etc. They went home to their husbands (who were investors or involved with the university in some way, can't remember) and his students quit putting up with their husbands B.S. So, they fired my friend.
I need to look into all that you mentioned, thanks.
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"living matrilineal societies (0+ / 0-)
I come from a "noble" background. I learned to open doors for women, let them in first in line, the whole common courtesy thing of chivalry, etc. After twelve years living in the Navajo Nation, I can laugh with the ladies who laugh at me when I open doors, and defer to women in chivalrous ways. The symbolism of chivalry is obvious to me. It is restoring justice. It is restoring dignity, respect, honor, and equality. But who really means it? I love going into doors first now, but after all this time, I still cringe a little inside, feeling like a heel! Anyway, it's very cool, humbling, and very healthy for me to be living in a matrilineal society. "
--
"A good place to start, (3+ / 0-)
since humans are social primates, is the research on primates and group structure.
Here's an article I found interesting:
Folia Primatologica 1998;69:81-88
Short answer: no, there have been no matriarchal societies where there is relatively easy mobility between groups. Hence, the Inuit, and some Pacific Island cultures, quite possibly have had purely matriarchal societies, but not Europe, Asia or the Middle East.
Just because we find some fertility goddesses doesn't mean that a society was matriarchal, either. The Catholic Church is riddled with female figures, but you could hardly argue that they're matriarchal. The figurines tell us more about what a culture sought to gain control over (fertility, for pastoral cultures).
Back to humans as social primates: what seems to be a factor in primates is infanticide, and defense from it. If a roving male (or a group of) manages to displace the leader of a primate group, he/they will kill all of the juveniles in that group. The reason is that the mothers will be fertile sooner if they're not nursing or caring for their young, and this will give the new leader of the group the chance to impregnate all of these females and so pass on his genes. Unsurprisingly, females evolved quite a few defenses to this, one of which is the formation of defense coalitions.
Another particularly interesting defense, in closed societies, was promiscuity. A male in a group would hardly kill an infant of a mother that he had quite possibly impregnated himself. So there have been studies done (with Macaca fuscata, that I'm aware of) that show females mate with every male in the troupe, but only with the dominant male when they're fertile. And of course, only the female knows when she's fertile, since they have hidden ovulation (as do humans, which is why...).
Signs of a successful human matriarchal society: strong female coalitions (probably with sexual contact), and promiscuity. Many children, reared communally in the group. But little to no chance of unwanted males coming in, since they would then break the fragile equilibrium created by the paternity confusion strategies (like the female orgasm).
There are a limited number of human societies which fill these conditions. Historically, the Inuit are one of the more recent.
When we are all Julian Assange, we will be free."
3 November 2016 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Some facts you need to consdier: (5+ / 0-)
Ancient Greece predates Christianity by quite a bit. It was one of the most misogynistic societies around. Women had practically no rights. Ditto Rome from its founding. Much though I wish I COULD blame Paul for the current sad state of affairs, misogyny is pre-Christian.
Back in the late 60s and early 70s, there was an attempt to prove matriarchy. There really wasn't much hard evidence--though Bachofen (I think that's the name--it's been 30 years I read him) tried pretty hard. There IS evidence of matrilineal societies where descent is through the mother's bloodline ( you ALWAYS know who the mother is, but not the father). There are also societies like the Norse and the Celts where women had better rights than other European women did-- CHristianity DID shove Roman law down everyone's throats, and Roman law was VERY patriarchal--and I think some of them were matrilineal in that your sister's son inherited (Celts)."
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"Was it Greece, where the only "true love " came from boys, and not women?
I was hoping you'd comment.
I just don't want people to believe that there were no matriarchal societies, which is what the ones I listed said. Good to hear from you."
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"Women in ancient Greece weren't (0+ / 0-)
educated at all except in how to run a household. They were basically housekeepers, and mothers. The rare exceptions were courtesans, the hetairae, like Aspasia, who was the mistress of Pericles of Athens (she was themother of hsi sona nd awarded honroary Athenian citizenship). SHe was brilliant and also ran a school for yougn girls--but she was the rare exception that proved the rule.
If you can't talk to someone about the things that matter, how can you have a deep friendship and relationship with them? For intellectual companionship and love, Greek men turned tow each other.
Froma ll I've read, there's no real indication that a true matriarchy--rule by women with the main power int he women's hands--ever existed. Lots of cliams for it in feminist writings in 60s and 70s, but little or no evidence. There WERE socieiteis in which descent was traced thtough the mother, and socieities where women were fairly equal with men, like ancient Ireland BEFORE Christianity (they maintained a fairly high place even after) and the norse countries.
Just becaue a Goddess was worshipped is no guarantee that women had equality--as I said, look at Greece and Ropme. Of course in most cultures, it was a Sky Father who had the upper hand over the Goddesses. IN Ireland, though Danu is the highest deity--and female."
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"I can say absolutely (0+ / 0-)
that the Cherokee were. At the museum, that's what they called it. A Clan Mother "picked " a man (who did good housework, or the equivalent thereof) by request of a woman. Clan Mothers (7) were in charge, even going to war & peace. They have the entire village replication there in place.
I studied with a Cherokee Medicine Man who also said likewise."
Ancient Greece predates Christianity by quite a bit. It was one of the most misogynistic societies around. Women had practically no rights. Ditto Rome from its founding. Much though I wish I COULD blame Paul for the current sad state of affairs, misogyny is pre-Christian.
Back in the late 60s and early 70s, there was an attempt to prove matriarchy. There really wasn't much hard evidence--though Bachofen (I think that's the name--it's been 30 years I read him) tried pretty hard. There IS evidence of matrilineal societies where descent is through the mother's bloodline ( you ALWAYS know who the mother is, but not the father). There are also societies like the Norse and the Celts where women had better rights than other European women did-- CHristianity DID shove Roman law down everyone's throats, and Roman law was VERY patriarchal--and I think some of them were matrilineal in that your sister's son inherited (Celts)."
--
"Was it Greece, where the only "true love " came from boys, and not women?
I was hoping you'd comment.
I just don't want people to believe that there were no matriarchal societies, which is what the ones I listed said. Good to hear from you."
--
"Women in ancient Greece weren't (0+ / 0-)
educated at all except in how to run a household. They were basically housekeepers, and mothers. The rare exceptions were courtesans, the hetairae, like Aspasia, who was the mistress of Pericles of Athens (she was themother of hsi sona nd awarded honroary Athenian citizenship). SHe was brilliant and also ran a school for yougn girls--but she was the rare exception that proved the rule.
If you can't talk to someone about the things that matter, how can you have a deep friendship and relationship with them? For intellectual companionship and love, Greek men turned tow each other.
Froma ll I've read, there's no real indication that a true matriarchy--rule by women with the main power int he women's hands--ever existed. Lots of cliams for it in feminist writings in 60s and 70s, but little or no evidence. There WERE socieiteis in which descent was traced thtough the mother, and socieities where women were fairly equal with men, like ancient Ireland BEFORE Christianity (they maintained a fairly high place even after) and the norse countries.
Just becaue a Goddess was worshipped is no guarantee that women had equality--as I said, look at Greece and Ropme. Of course in most cultures, it was a Sky Father who had the upper hand over the Goddesses. IN Ireland, though Danu is the highest deity--and female."
--
"I can say absolutely (0+ / 0-)
that the Cherokee were. At the museum, that's what they called it. A Clan Mother "picked " a man (who did good housework, or the equivalent thereof) by request of a woman. Clan Mothers (7) were in charge, even going to war & peace. They have the entire village replication there in place.
I studied with a Cherokee Medicine Man who also said likewise."
3 November 2016 02:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"To expand on my previous comment, I think it would be helpful to discuss what we mean my "matriarchy", because there is no firm, universally agreed-upon definition. The Iroquois example I gave is at some remove from what one would typically envision as matriarchal (men serving as chiefs).
The other relevant terms here are matrilineal (tracing descent through the female line) and matrilocal (groom moves into bride's family's home), but these can be manifest in otherwise patriarchal societies."
---
"Obviously, there were no matriarchal societies. Perhaps it is because Adam came before Eve. To the contrary, only a Mitochondrial Eve is even considered. So, maybe all modern humans should be now considered a matrilineal society and African American, since we all have African American in our DNA, even if it’s 1%. That would be a good thing in my opinion.
Matrilineal Descent
Matrilineal , or uterine, descent is established by tracing descent exclusively through females from a founding female ancestor.
I thought it'd take away from the topic. Maybe I should've left it in?"
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"African geographically (3+ / 0-)
but not ethnically in the modern sense. 100,000 or more years ago, it is doubtful that anything like the modern 'races' existed. Also consider that some of the early settlers of NE Asian and perhaps N America were 'proto-Caucasian' similar to the Ainu of Japan, and that much of the genes of blond/red/light brown haired people traveled into Europe from further east, mixing with or displacing the existing peoples and cultures.
And you can't leave out Y-chromosomal Adam, which for obvious reasons is a patrlineal line although younger than Eve's."
--
"Have You read: Robert Graves' The White Goddess? Graves argues that matriarchal - or at least female worshipping - societies were indeed phased out and semi-supplanted by Christianity (the remnants of which are found in what non-Catholics call "the cult of Mary"), but the source isn't Christianity - or Paul. It's Judaism, the first major religion to lack any female divine component. There's more to it than that (Graves also argues that heredity was matrilineal in Judaism, but I don't buy it), but that's a take-home point.
If I'm not mistaken, Graves' history has been partially discredited (it's more creative anthropology than scientific), but it makes for an interesting read. "
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"I have not. (0+ / 0-)
I wish I caould remember another author that said something similiar, comparing the Black Madonnas to the statues of the Virgin Mary."
--
Sue Monk Kidd (0+ / 0-)
has written a nonfiction book about her search for/finding of the Divine Feminine. "
--
"I think the first name was (2+ / 0-)
Madam or something like that.
I think books like that are very good and useful. I think the Divine Femine is very powerful, and I've known some women they've really helped, just getting away from the male-dominance in their own lives."
--
"By the way, (1+ / 0-)
I'm sure I'll take some flames for this, but if you want to make a really strong argument about matriarchal culture, I wouldn't go with either George's book, which is a mystical-astrological text, or Campbell, which is very dated. I wouldn't go with Graves, either, except for the enjoyment of reading Graves."
--
"No offense at all, (0+ / 0-)
someone at MLW made a similiar comment. I'm learning here, too."
-
"No worries - it's a very worthy topic (0+ / 0-)
and one that I hope you'll explore more fully, and bring us back a report. :) It's been a while since I've read up on this topic, so I have no idea what the contemporary historical consensus (if any) has become, or what the critical pieces of evidence and theories are."
--
"I found an article (0+ / 0-)
in a scholarly magazine, not a matriarchal society, but the men and women respected each other. They concluded this based on where things were found, ect. I wish I hadn't lost it. It was my wife's magazine."
--
"This is not quite what you asked, but regarding early Christianity I believe the concept of God the Father (not mother) came from the fact that Christianity was at first considered a Jewish sect, and I believe that Judaism views the deity as male. Not that I'm defending the Church's treatment of women, which has historically been horrible, or anything.
Also, yes there are female saints. Anne, Mary's mother and St. Elizabeth, John the Baptist's mother spring to mind. (From what I understand, Elizabeth is a saint because she believed in God's power to cause her to have a child at her age, not because she was so-and-so's mother.)
PS: I don't have any specific references or books to lead you to, but if you look up Catherine of Sienna, you will find a saint who was basically acting pope for a while. "
--
"That makes sense though. (1+ / 0-)
I tried finding if the Essenes were matriarchal or not, and it wasn't conclusive enough with what I found. I'm gald to hear there are more female saints than I thought. Thanks."
-
"Fascinating research, diary and comments.
I've long enjoyed two books on the subject, but they are not scientific.
One, "The Great Cosmic Mother: Rediscovering the Religion of the Earth" by Monica Sjoo and Barbara Mor.
The second, "The White Goddess" by Robert Graves.
And, of course, Joseph Campbell's writings.
I thought there had been discoveries about the Amazons, but I have no references for that, just a memory of a long-ago TV program, probably PBS.
Here's an interesting Web site: https://web.archive.org/web/20110111224032/http://www.net4you.com/poellauerg/Amazons/index.html"
--
"I know that the Council of Nicea (1+ / 0-)
was where the church 'elders' or whoever..
decided what gospels were approved to go in to
the Bible. That there were many gospels that
didn't make the cut. Also, in the Catholic Church
the Nicene Creed is still recited in the Mass.
If the had decided differently, a lot of
the Bible would be different."
---
The other relevant terms here are matrilineal (tracing descent through the female line) and matrilocal (groom moves into bride's family's home), but these can be manifest in otherwise patriarchal societies."
---
"Obviously, there were no matriarchal societies. Perhaps it is because Adam came before Eve. To the contrary, only a Mitochondrial Eve is even considered. So, maybe all modern humans should be now considered a matrilineal society and African American, since we all have African American in our DNA, even if it’s 1%. That would be a good thing in my opinion.
Matrilineal Descent
Matrilineal , or uterine, descent is established by tracing descent exclusively through females from a founding female ancestor.
I thought it'd take away from the topic. Maybe I should've left it in?"
--
"African geographically (3+ / 0-)
but not ethnically in the modern sense. 100,000 or more years ago, it is doubtful that anything like the modern 'races' existed. Also consider that some of the early settlers of NE Asian and perhaps N America were 'proto-Caucasian' similar to the Ainu of Japan, and that much of the genes of blond/red/light brown haired people traveled into Europe from further east, mixing with or displacing the existing peoples and cultures.
And you can't leave out Y-chromosomal Adam, which for obvious reasons is a patrlineal line although younger than Eve's."
--
"Have You read: Robert Graves' The White Goddess? Graves argues that matriarchal - or at least female worshipping - societies were indeed phased out and semi-supplanted by Christianity (the remnants of which are found in what non-Catholics call "the cult of Mary"), but the source isn't Christianity - or Paul. It's Judaism, the first major religion to lack any female divine component. There's more to it than that (Graves also argues that heredity was matrilineal in Judaism, but I don't buy it), but that's a take-home point.
If I'm not mistaken, Graves' history has been partially discredited (it's more creative anthropology than scientific), but it makes for an interesting read. "
-
"I have not. (0+ / 0-)
I wish I caould remember another author that said something similiar, comparing the Black Madonnas to the statues of the Virgin Mary."
--
Sue Monk Kidd (0+ / 0-)
has written a nonfiction book about her search for/finding of the Divine Feminine. "
--
"I think the first name was (2+ / 0-)
Madam or something like that.
I think books like that are very good and useful. I think the Divine Femine is very powerful, and I've known some women they've really helped, just getting away from the male-dominance in their own lives."
--
"By the way, (1+ / 0-)
I'm sure I'll take some flames for this, but if you want to make a really strong argument about matriarchal culture, I wouldn't go with either George's book, which is a mystical-astrological text, or Campbell, which is very dated. I wouldn't go with Graves, either, except for the enjoyment of reading Graves."
--
"No offense at all, (0+ / 0-)
someone at MLW made a similiar comment. I'm learning here, too."
-
"No worries - it's a very worthy topic (0+ / 0-)
and one that I hope you'll explore more fully, and bring us back a report. :) It's been a while since I've read up on this topic, so I have no idea what the contemporary historical consensus (if any) has become, or what the critical pieces of evidence and theories are."
--
"I found an article (0+ / 0-)
in a scholarly magazine, not a matriarchal society, but the men and women respected each other. They concluded this based on where things were found, ect. I wish I hadn't lost it. It was my wife's magazine."
--
"This is not quite what you asked, but regarding early Christianity I believe the concept of God the Father (not mother) came from the fact that Christianity was at first considered a Jewish sect, and I believe that Judaism views the deity as male. Not that I'm defending the Church's treatment of women, which has historically been horrible, or anything.
Also, yes there are female saints. Anne, Mary's mother and St. Elizabeth, John the Baptist's mother spring to mind. (From what I understand, Elizabeth is a saint because she believed in God's power to cause her to have a child at her age, not because she was so-and-so's mother.)
PS: I don't have any specific references or books to lead you to, but if you look up Catherine of Sienna, you will find a saint who was basically acting pope for a while. "
--
"That makes sense though. (1+ / 0-)
I tried finding if the Essenes were matriarchal or not, and it wasn't conclusive enough with what I found. I'm gald to hear there are more female saints than I thought. Thanks."
-
"Fascinating research, diary and comments.
I've long enjoyed two books on the subject, but they are not scientific.
One, "The Great Cosmic Mother: Rediscovering the Religion of the Earth" by Monica Sjoo and Barbara Mor.
The second, "The White Goddess" by Robert Graves.
And, of course, Joseph Campbell's writings.
I thought there had been discoveries about the Amazons, but I have no references for that, just a memory of a long-ago TV program, probably PBS.
Here's an interesting Web site: https://web.archive.org/web/20110111224032/http://www.net4you.com/poellauerg/Amazons/index.html"
--
"I know that the Council of Nicea (1+ / 0-)
was where the church 'elders' or whoever..
decided what gospels were approved to go in to
the Bible. That there were many gospels that
didn't make the cut. Also, in the Catholic Church
the Nicene Creed is still recited in the Mass.
If the had decided differently, a lot of
the Bible would be different."
---
https://web.archive.org/web/20110111224032/http://www.net4you.com/poellauerg/Amazons/index.html
3 November 2016 02:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Comments:
"I'm an anthropologist, and I never heard the Inuit described as matriarchal (though I'm no expert on them either so I'll leave it open). However, the classic example of a matriarchal society used in anthro classes is the Iroquois Confederacy. But it's complicated. Men served as chiefs, making decisions about domestic and foreign policy (including war). But they were chosen exclusively by women (the clan mothers), who could depose and replace a chief who wasn't working in the interest of the people. To the extent that contemporary Iroquois societies have been able to sustain a semblance of traditional governance (eroded by limitations on sovereignty and, where sovereignty exists, competing and/or syncretic institutions), this is still the case."
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"until you told me! Thanks. What's your opinion on the U.S. Constitution having elements of the Iroquois Constitution?
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"an maybe a topic for another diary, but the parallels are obvious, and contemporary colonials talked about it as a model (Ben Franklin in particular advocated the 5-nation confederacy as a model for federation of the colonies).
The best the opponents of this view have been able to come up with is to point out the many differences between the US and Iroquois constitutions. Duh - no one has ever claimed that the founding fathers copied it wholesale."
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"Fact or fiction? You decide: (3+ / 0-)
The Chalice and the Blade:
an amazon review....
The Chalice and the Blade describes idyllic, Goddess-worshipping societies that Eisler believes existed several thousand years ago in eastern Europe and the eastern Mediterranean. She presents images of agrarian villages that had no defensive fortifications because there was no war. The communities were non-violent and egalitarian. There was no hierarchy and no sexism. There was no class system or great disparities of wealth. The people were deeply spiritual and practiced free love. They were profoundly connected to the natural world. Eventually, however, aggressive warrior nomads from the east (patriarchal peoples who worshipped male sky gods) destroyed these peaceful, Goddess-worshipping communities. The warrior nomads killed the men, raped the women, and took the children as slaves. The Goddess was suppressed and the patriarchy has ruled ever since."
https://web.archive.org/web/20110111224032/http://www.amazon.com/Chalice-Blade-Our-History-Future/dp/0062502891/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-8410999-9435035?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1176858424&sr=8-2 "
"The more I learn about this type of history, the less my denial, which feels like it's pretty much gone at this point."
-
"Goddesses and Gods of Old Europe, 6500-3500 B.C. (English)
(Myths, and Cult Images - ISBN: 9780520046559)
Synopsis: Through study of sculpture, vases, and other cult objects from southeastern Europe, Gimbutas sketches the village culture that evolved there before it was overwhelmed by the patriarchal Indo-Europeans. The goddess incarnating the creative principle as Source and Giver of All, fertility ima..."
---
"walled cities existed in the eastern Mediterranean in that time period. And at least some of the central Asian nomadic tribes seemed to have held at least some women in respect, grave burials indicate equal standing of importance between the sexes.
I think the evidence is weak for this argument. The transition from matriarchal and matrilineal cultures to male domination can be seen to evolve in some cases, where written records exist. Both the Egyptian and Summarian laws on ownership and inheritance show a series of changes from matrilineal and egalitarian to a more male dominated society over hundreds of years."
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"I'm an anthropologist, and I never heard the Inuit described as matriarchal (though I'm no expert on them either so I'll leave it open). However, the classic example of a matriarchal society used in anthro classes is the Iroquois Confederacy. But it's complicated. Men served as chiefs, making decisions about domestic and foreign policy (including war). But they were chosen exclusively by women (the clan mothers), who could depose and replace a chief who wasn't working in the interest of the people. To the extent that contemporary Iroquois societies have been able to sustain a semblance of traditional governance (eroded by limitations on sovereignty and, where sovereignty exists, competing and/or syncretic institutions), this is still the case."
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"until you told me! Thanks. What's your opinion on the U.S. Constitution having elements of the Iroquois Constitution?
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"an maybe a topic for another diary, but the parallels are obvious, and contemporary colonials talked about it as a model (Ben Franklin in particular advocated the 5-nation confederacy as a model for federation of the colonies).
The best the opponents of this view have been able to come up with is to point out the many differences between the US and Iroquois constitutions. Duh - no one has ever claimed that the founding fathers copied it wholesale."
--
---
"Fact or fiction? You decide: (3+ / 0-)
The Chalice and the Blade:
an amazon review....
The Chalice and the Blade describes idyllic, Goddess-worshipping societies that Eisler believes existed several thousand years ago in eastern Europe and the eastern Mediterranean. She presents images of agrarian villages that had no defensive fortifications because there was no war. The communities were non-violent and egalitarian. There was no hierarchy and no sexism. There was no class system or great disparities of wealth. The people were deeply spiritual and practiced free love. They were profoundly connected to the natural world. Eventually, however, aggressive warrior nomads from the east (patriarchal peoples who worshipped male sky gods) destroyed these peaceful, Goddess-worshipping communities. The warrior nomads killed the men, raped the women, and took the children as slaves. The Goddess was suppressed and the patriarchy has ruled ever since."
https://web.archive.org/web/20110111224032/http://www.amazon.com/Chalice-Blade-Our-History-Future/dp/0062502891/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-8410999-9435035?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1176858424&sr=8-2 "
"The more I learn about this type of history, the less my denial, which feels like it's pretty much gone at this point."
-
"Goddesses and Gods of Old Europe, 6500-3500 B.C. (English)
(Myths, and Cult Images - ISBN: 9780520046559)
Synopsis: Through study of sculpture, vases, and other cult objects from southeastern Europe, Gimbutas sketches the village culture that evolved there before it was overwhelmed by the patriarchal Indo-Europeans. The goddess incarnating the creative principle as Source and Giver of All, fertility ima..."
---
"walled cities existed in the eastern Mediterranean in that time period. And at least some of the central Asian nomadic tribes seemed to have held at least some women in respect, grave burials indicate equal standing of importance between the sexes.
I think the evidence is weak for this argument. The transition from matriarchal and matrilineal cultures to male domination can be seen to evolve in some cases, where written records exist. Both the Egyptian and Summarian laws on ownership and inheritance show a series of changes from matrilineal and egalitarian to a more male dominated society over hundreds of years."
----
https://web.archive.org/web/20110111224032/http://www.amazon.com/Chalice-Blade-Our-History-Future/dp/0062502891/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-8410999-9435035?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1176858424&sr=8-2
3 November 2016 01:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Abraham's wife Sarah (3+ / 0-)
presumably was a priestess.
Some books I am just finishing:
Mary Magdalene, The First Apostle: The Struggle for Authority
The author, Ann Graham Brock, uses textual analyses of biblical texts - canonical and non-canonical - to show how scripture was changed to promote Peter or promote Mary. Isn't it interesting that most of the texts promoting Mary Magdalene were left out of the canon as a result of the Council of Nicea.
In a comparison of the non-canonical Acts of Peter and Acts of Paul, the author compares the view of women in each. Peter's view of women is presented as better they should die or be maimed that be a source of temptation for men. The Acts of Paul, on the other hand, present women who are true heroes and worthy examples.
In the Gospel of Thomas, Peter says: "Let Mary leave us for women are not worthy of life."
The other book is The Lost Apostle: Searching for the truth about Jesus by Rena Pederson who traces the change of the name of an apostle, Junia, to Junias.
There was a great denial of the leadership of women in the church and, especially, a covering up of the fact that Jesus promoted the leadership of women.
To the victor go the spoils, thus can history try to eradicate the contributions of women.
However, just like the RNC emails, there are traces of the truth if you want to find it.
I come from a matriarchal family. When I mention that in conversation and get derisive remarks from men, I say: "You didn't kill us off, you know. We're still here - we're just waiting."
Edwards Democrat
My moniker is in honor of three generations of women whose soul's were seared in the cauldron of Hell's Kitchen, NYC "
--
"Red Tent by Anita Diamant is a book you might enjoy. It's a novel, but basically an imagining of what life was like for Jacob's wives and daughter. Touches a bit on who Sarah really was as well.
We won. But we're not done. "
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"Elaine Pagels is on Colbert tonight (0+ / 0-)
She has a new book on the Judas Gospels and is talking about censorship in the early Christian era. Was reading this when she came on, and I thought I'd entered the Twilight Zone...
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#"I put a lot of blame on Paul myself, but then I wondered if they didn't put some words in his mouth, too. Blaming the downfall of the human race on Eve...B---S---. I think he probaly did say that one, but I don't know."
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"Paul is garbage. I was raised evangelical, and have occasion to talk to a number of the same, and one constant running through everyone is that if it weren't for Paul, there'd be much less reason not to be Christian.
All the more interesting, then, that influential post-structuralists like Zizek and Badiou have been obsessed with Paul lately."
-
"Anyone who said, (3+ / 0-)
"Slaves, obey your masters" is garbage in my book as well."
-
"the letters of Paul were not written by Paul and that some of the letters were "redacted."
The whole point of both the books I listed in my first post is that the books written after the death of Jesus were changed many times to reflect various points of view. This is true of all the different theological camps.
The textual analysis of the prevailing (canonical) books indicate that the role of women were downgraded, especially in Luke and Acts.
The portions of Paul's letters that demean women seem to have been redactions and not Paul's point of view. Paul, like Jesus, welcomed the discipleship of women. He's gotten a bad rap. That was a big shock to me because I had always blamed Paul as well.
I love this new textual analysis approach to research. It reveals so much we've missed."
presumably was a priestess.
Some books I am just finishing:
Mary Magdalene, The First Apostle: The Struggle for Authority
The author, Ann Graham Brock, uses textual analyses of biblical texts - canonical and non-canonical - to show how scripture was changed to promote Peter or promote Mary. Isn't it interesting that most of the texts promoting Mary Magdalene were left out of the canon as a result of the Council of Nicea.
In a comparison of the non-canonical Acts of Peter and Acts of Paul, the author compares the view of women in each. Peter's view of women is presented as better they should die or be maimed that be a source of temptation for men. The Acts of Paul, on the other hand, present women who are true heroes and worthy examples.
In the Gospel of Thomas, Peter says: "Let Mary leave us for women are not worthy of life."
The other book is The Lost Apostle: Searching for the truth about Jesus by Rena Pederson who traces the change of the name of an apostle, Junia, to Junias.
There was a great denial of the leadership of women in the church and, especially, a covering up of the fact that Jesus promoted the leadership of women.
To the victor go the spoils, thus can history try to eradicate the contributions of women.
However, just like the RNC emails, there are traces of the truth if you want to find it.
I come from a matriarchal family. When I mention that in conversation and get derisive remarks from men, I say: "You didn't kill us off, you know. We're still here - we're just waiting."
Edwards Democrat
My moniker is in honor of three generations of women whose soul's were seared in the cauldron of Hell's Kitchen, NYC "
--
"Red Tent by Anita Diamant is a book you might enjoy. It's a novel, but basically an imagining of what life was like for Jacob's wives and daughter. Touches a bit on who Sarah really was as well.
We won. But we're not done. "
-
"Elaine Pagels is on Colbert tonight (0+ / 0-)
She has a new book on the Judas Gospels and is talking about censorship in the early Christian era. Was reading this when she came on, and I thought I'd entered the Twilight Zone...
--
#"I put a lot of blame on Paul myself, but then I wondered if they didn't put some words in his mouth, too. Blaming the downfall of the human race on Eve...B---S---. I think he probaly did say that one, but I don't know."
-
"Paul is garbage. I was raised evangelical, and have occasion to talk to a number of the same, and one constant running through everyone is that if it weren't for Paul, there'd be much less reason not to be Christian.
All the more interesting, then, that influential post-structuralists like Zizek and Badiou have been obsessed with Paul lately."
-
"Anyone who said, (3+ / 0-)
"Slaves, obey your masters" is garbage in my book as well."
-
"the letters of Paul were not written by Paul and that some of the letters were "redacted."
The whole point of both the books I listed in my first post is that the books written after the death of Jesus were changed many times to reflect various points of view. This is true of all the different theological camps.
The textual analysis of the prevailing (canonical) books indicate that the role of women were downgraded, especially in Luke and Acts.
The portions of Paul's letters that demean women seem to have been redactions and not Paul's point of view. Paul, like Jesus, welcomed the discipleship of women. He's gotten a bad rap. That was a big shock to me because I had always blamed Paul as well.
I love this new textual analysis approach to research. It reveals so much we've missed."
3 November 2016 01:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
comments:
"Do you happen to know what the division of labor was like in ancient Asia? Was agriculture organized enough that mostly men were in charge of what was grown and where, or was that the women's decision? "
"No, sorry, past my area of knowledge, I came via origins of languages.
BTW - read on the goddess Nüwa, who is usually shown as having the tail of a snake instead of legs. In different times the repairer of Heaven, with many similarities to other Flood myths, creator of humans or more, and in later time with her husband Fuxi as the parents of mankind.
Representations of the pair show them with a scarf over their shoulders, Fuxi with a sun symbol on his chest and holding carpenter's square and inkmarker, Nüwa with a moon symbol and holding a compass/divider in her hands. Then look at these symbols of Freemasonery"
--
"in Indonesia are matriarchal - North/North West Sumatra aka Banda Aceh ... The tsunami hit that region pretty badly, they are viewed as "rebels" as they seek a separatist state from Indonesia.
Avoiding Theocracy at Home and Neo Cons Abroad"
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"Matrilineal =/ matriarchal (6+ / 0-)
Look at West Indian culture, for example. It's matrilineal, but shot through with misogyny. That's one reason I'm skeptical about drawing conclusions about gender equality from cultural evidence of deification of the feminine: one stellar lesson from the 2nd wave feminists is that the deification of the feminine is more prison than liberation."
"I agree they're not the same (1+ / 0-)
But the Achaeamenids, who cited that many of their customs from the Elamites, did have laws that allowed women to own their own land, to divorce without explanation and, in their courts, the Queen Mother ruled over the king.
So they may have been both."
--
"Just one point:
Recorded history goes back to, what, maybe 3000 bce? And humans were around for, what, about 100,000 years before that?
So, for about 95% of human history, we know zip.
It would be astonishing if there were absolutely zero matriarchal societies in all that time."
--
"Historical accuracy aside, one thing that makes me dubious about the ideology of matriarchy is that it functions as a classic Fall from Eden mythology: there was this wonderful, happy society from which we torn away by the Big Bad Patriarchy. I'm as ceaselessly critical of patriarchy as anyone, I think, but the gender essentialism at the core of the myth of matriarchy makes me uneasy.
It's a short walk between "matriarchal societies are peaceful" and "the woman's place is the kitchen," in other words."
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"I don't idealize it as a utopia or anything. It's just asking a question, "What ways throughout history worked which were not warlike, or less warlike?" Hunting cultures had land conflicts, and some resolved those disputes peacefully. Some didn't. I think matriarchal societies probaly had less conflict, due to being agricultural overall. If I'm wrong, someone please call me on that."
-
"we should assume that agricultural societies are any less war-like than pre-ag societies were. They still had plenty of reasons to raid their neighbors (for example, crop failure in one area would probably lead to an invasion of neighboring areas that didn't experience that failure). And, lest we forget, we have a society based on agriculture; it certainly hasn't stopped us from being violent towards each other."
-
"The author of "A Terrible Love of War" has this to say:
These tales must be recalled so as to obviate the testosterone hypothesis, that is, everything to do with bellicosity and militarism is the expression of male physiology, both the cruelty and the courage -- it's all reducible to glands of gender. The myths and legends tell it differently: the spirit of war and the rage of battle are achetypal, forced upon all animal life, all gender, all societies. No gland can contain it. It is irreducible ... . It breaks out in matriarchal and matrilineal societies. No one is exempt. Women cannot hide from it, as its victims know, nor can they hide it. Not only legendary Amazons but modern women in power have been war leaders; women have clamored for admission to military academies and they serve the military with distinction, pride, and killing weaponry.
I highly recommend reading Hillman. For a selection of his writings, try "A Blue Fire." But don't miss "A Terrible Love of War," considering your questions.
In a room where people unanimously maintain a conspiracy of silence, one word of truth sounds like a pistol shot." ~ Czeslaw Milosz"
---
"Most of the history of modern man involves us being hunter-gatherers, and there is a lot of ethnographic evidence that hunter-gatherers had egalitarian societies.
I think it's more likely that humans have mostly been egalitarian, but the egalitarian balance was tipped when agriculture was introduced, since it caused a greater spatial division of labor."
--
"it need not have switched. Many hunter-gathers seem to have practiced some crop cultivation, even semi-nomadic people have had sites where plants were tended for part of a year.
Beyond that matrilineal cultures would work with agriculture, you know who a child's mother is while the father may not be certain.
Many cultures considered to be solidly patriarchal and patrilineal today show traces of other ways. The Chinese system of inheritance, while basically patrilineal, would jump to the eldest son of the deceased's sister if he had no living sons."
"Do you happen to know what the division of labor was like in ancient Asia? Was agriculture organized enough that mostly men were in charge of what was grown and where, or was that the women's decision? "
"No, sorry, past my area of knowledge, I came via origins of languages.
BTW - read on the goddess Nüwa, who is usually shown as having the tail of a snake instead of legs. In different times the repairer of Heaven, with many similarities to other Flood myths, creator of humans or more, and in later time with her husband Fuxi as the parents of mankind.
Representations of the pair show them with a scarf over their shoulders, Fuxi with a sun symbol on his chest and holding carpenter's square and inkmarker, Nüwa with a moon symbol and holding a compass/divider in her hands. Then look at these symbols of Freemasonery"
--
"in Indonesia are matriarchal - North/North West Sumatra aka Banda Aceh ... The tsunami hit that region pretty badly, they are viewed as "rebels" as they seek a separatist state from Indonesia.
Avoiding Theocracy at Home and Neo Cons Abroad"
---
"Matrilineal =/ matriarchal (6+ / 0-)
Look at West Indian culture, for example. It's matrilineal, but shot through with misogyny. That's one reason I'm skeptical about drawing conclusions about gender equality from cultural evidence of deification of the feminine: one stellar lesson from the 2nd wave feminists is that the deification of the feminine is more prison than liberation."
"I agree they're not the same (1+ / 0-)
But the Achaeamenids, who cited that many of their customs from the Elamites, did have laws that allowed women to own their own land, to divorce without explanation and, in their courts, the Queen Mother ruled over the king.
So they may have been both."
--
"Just one point:
Recorded history goes back to, what, maybe 3000 bce? And humans were around for, what, about 100,000 years before that?
So, for about 95% of human history, we know zip.
It would be astonishing if there were absolutely zero matriarchal societies in all that time."
--
"Historical accuracy aside, one thing that makes me dubious about the ideology of matriarchy is that it functions as a classic Fall from Eden mythology: there was this wonderful, happy society from which we torn away by the Big Bad Patriarchy. I'm as ceaselessly critical of patriarchy as anyone, I think, but the gender essentialism at the core of the myth of matriarchy makes me uneasy.
It's a short walk between "matriarchal societies are peaceful" and "the woman's place is the kitchen," in other words."
-
"I don't idealize it as a utopia or anything. It's just asking a question, "What ways throughout history worked which were not warlike, or less warlike?" Hunting cultures had land conflicts, and some resolved those disputes peacefully. Some didn't. I think matriarchal societies probaly had less conflict, due to being agricultural overall. If I'm wrong, someone please call me on that."
-
"we should assume that agricultural societies are any less war-like than pre-ag societies were. They still had plenty of reasons to raid their neighbors (for example, crop failure in one area would probably lead to an invasion of neighboring areas that didn't experience that failure). And, lest we forget, we have a society based on agriculture; it certainly hasn't stopped us from being violent towards each other."
-
"The author of "A Terrible Love of War" has this to say:
These tales must be recalled so as to obviate the testosterone hypothesis, that is, everything to do with bellicosity and militarism is the expression of male physiology, both the cruelty and the courage -- it's all reducible to glands of gender. The myths and legends tell it differently: the spirit of war and the rage of battle are achetypal, forced upon all animal life, all gender, all societies. No gland can contain it. It is irreducible ... . It breaks out in matriarchal and matrilineal societies. No one is exempt. Women cannot hide from it, as its victims know, nor can they hide it. Not only legendary Amazons but modern women in power have been war leaders; women have clamored for admission to military academies and they serve the military with distinction, pride, and killing weaponry.
I highly recommend reading Hillman. For a selection of his writings, try "A Blue Fire." But don't miss "A Terrible Love of War," considering your questions.
In a room where people unanimously maintain a conspiracy of silence, one word of truth sounds like a pistol shot." ~ Czeslaw Milosz"
---
"Most of the history of modern man involves us being hunter-gatherers, and there is a lot of ethnographic evidence that hunter-gatherers had egalitarian societies.
I think it's more likely that humans have mostly been egalitarian, but the egalitarian balance was tipped when agriculture was introduced, since it caused a greater spatial division of labor."
--
"it need not have switched. Many hunter-gathers seem to have practiced some crop cultivation, even semi-nomadic people have had sites where plants were tended for part of a year.
Beyond that matrilineal cultures would work with agriculture, you know who a child's mother is while the father may not be certain.
Many cultures considered to be solidly patriarchal and patrilineal today show traces of other ways. The Chinese system of inheritance, while basically patrilineal, would jump to the eldest son of the deceased's sister if he had no living sons."
3 November 2016 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
way Joseph Campbell mentions in the regions he does.
I'm not qualified to authoritatively answer more than that. Joseph Campbell's work is very trustworthy to me.
There's a discussion maybe starting here at MLW.
However, if I simplify your question and apply it only to the Americas towards the Indigenous people, then I‘d say yes. Matriarchal societies were exterminated here.
P.S. I'm a man as well.
She nourishes us; that which we put into the ground she returns to us.
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"I have no authority to say one way or the other; however, the ones that say matriarchal societies were but a myth leave out crucial facts and seem to ignore the obvious when looking at the issue more globally and socially when considering historical gender roles and status. All I will legitimately offer is my opinion with my reasoning for concluding as such, which is that the matriarchal societies fell because of genocide by what Joseph Campbell calls the "nomadic Aryan cattle-herders from the north and Semitic sheep-and-goat-herders from the south.""
// meat eaters basically killed the femine, female world
https://web.archive.org/web/20100826123501/http://www.myleftwing.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=16098
I'm not qualified to authoritatively answer more than that. Joseph Campbell's work is very trustworthy to me.
There's a discussion maybe starting here at MLW.
However, if I simplify your question and apply it only to the Americas towards the Indigenous people, then I‘d say yes. Matriarchal societies were exterminated here.
P.S. I'm a man as well.
She nourishes us; that which we put into the ground she returns to us.
--
"I have no authority to say one way or the other; however, the ones that say matriarchal societies were but a myth leave out crucial facts and seem to ignore the obvious when looking at the issue more globally and socially when considering historical gender roles and status. All I will legitimately offer is my opinion with my reasoning for concluding as such, which is that the matriarchal societies fell because of genocide by what Joseph Campbell calls the "nomadic Aryan cattle-herders from the north and Semitic sheep-and-goat-herders from the south.""
// meat eaters basically killed the femine, female world
https://web.archive.org/web/20100826123501/http://www.myleftwing.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=16098
https://web.archive.org/web/20100826123501/http://www.myleftwing.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=16098
3 November 2016 01:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I hope the cultural wisdom of matriarchal cultures, indigenous cultures, and all peaceful or at least more peaceful cultures in general will be drawn upon in order to not more so repeat genocide and to halt it altogether, which seems to me to occur when there is a real or an imaginary need for survival. Water shortages and climate disintegration will necessarily create that condition, if and only if the shortages become severe enough.
Source
A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a 'Siberian' climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world.
The document predicts that abrupt climate change could bring the planet to the edge of anarchy as countries develop a nuclear threat to defend and secure dwindling food, water and energy supplies. The threat to global stability vastly eclipses that of terrorism, say the few experts privy to its contents.
To completely conclude, is one last example of synchronicity between the Lakota and a prehistoric cave in France. Archie Fire Lame Deer tells briefly of his travels there with his daughter, while talking to a guide he described as a "spiritual man."
Archie Fire Lame Deer & Richard Erdoes. "Gift Of Power." pp. 277-278.
I found the image of a buffalo carved out of the living rock with water from a sacred spring flowing from its mouth. While I was contemplating this, I heard (his daughter) holler, "Daddy, quick, come here!" – There revealed a face exactly like the one my father always used during his Yuwipi ceremonies –
Then our guide said, "All this goes back thousands of years before Christianity." - (He) kept the image of a dark-skinned prophetess that nowadays is called the "Black Madonna." He told me, "They called her and her sisters witches and burned them at the stake."
"I know all about this," I said. "They called our medicine men witch doctors and shot them dead for the same reasons." He went on, "This here has survived. Few have been inside this cave. You have been chosen."
https://web.archive.org/web/20110111224032/http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/17/2085/59963/2/324415
Source
A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a 'Siberian' climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world.
The document predicts that abrupt climate change could bring the planet to the edge of anarchy as countries develop a nuclear threat to defend and secure dwindling food, water and energy supplies. The threat to global stability vastly eclipses that of terrorism, say the few experts privy to its contents.
To completely conclude, is one last example of synchronicity between the Lakota and a prehistoric cave in France. Archie Fire Lame Deer tells briefly of his travels there with his daughter, while talking to a guide he described as a "spiritual man."
Archie Fire Lame Deer & Richard Erdoes. "Gift Of Power." pp. 277-278.
I found the image of a buffalo carved out of the living rock with water from a sacred spring flowing from its mouth. While I was contemplating this, I heard (his daughter) holler, "Daddy, quick, come here!" – There revealed a face exactly like the one my father always used during his Yuwipi ceremonies –
Then our guide said, "All this goes back thousands of years before Christianity." - (He) kept the image of a dark-skinned prophetess that nowadays is called the "Black Madonna." He told me, "They called her and her sisters witches and burned them at the stake."
"I know all about this," I said. "They called our medicine men witch doctors and shot them dead for the same reasons." He went on, "This here has survived. Few have been inside this cave. You have been chosen."
https://web.archive.org/web/20110111224032/http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/17/2085/59963/2/324415
3 November 2016 01:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
NATIVE ETHNICITIES WITHIN BRITAIN
The Pictish Matriarchal society was replaced forcibly by the Patriarchal society of the Scots.
See the sixth paragraph for the history of the Picti being a matriarchal society.
T.D. Kendrick. "Druids And Druidism." P.202
Dr. Pokorny (loc. cit.) adds that traces of cannibalism, matriarchy, and the couvades in legend and folklore are additional signs of the non-indogermanic religion in the British Isles from which druidism is derived.
Of course, all there ever was or will be since the beginning of human history was and is the patriarchy. Nobody but them was in the global sandbox.
To the contrary, Demetra George and Joseph Campbell will now have their say.
Demetra George. "Mysteries Of The Dark Moon." P.28.
The answers to these questions can be found in the transition from matriarchal to patriarchal culture that occurred five millennia ago. Current researchers into ancient history, working in the fields of theology, archaeology, art history, and mythology, are uncovering evidence that, starting around 300 BCE, there occurred a transition in the predominant religious and political structures that governed humanity. Matriarchal societies, which had worshiped goddesses of the earth and moon such as Innana, Ishtar, Isis, Demeter, and Artemis, gave way to patriarchal societies, which followed the solar gods and heroes such as Gilgamesh, Amen Ra, Zeus, Yahweh, and Apollo.
(Emphasis is mine)
From Joseph Campbell, The Masks of God: Occidental Mythology Vol.3. 1964, Viking Press, New York p. 21-2
"For it is now perfectly clear that before the violent entry of the late Bronze and early Iron Age nomadic Aryan cattle-herders from the north and Semitic sheep-and-goat-herders from the south into the old cult sites of the ancient world, there had prevailed in that world an essentially organic, vegetal, non-heroic view of the nature and necessities of life that was completely repugnant to those lion hearts for whom not the patient toil of earth but the battle spear and its plunder were the source of both wealth and joy. In the older mother myths and rites the light and darker aspects of the mixed thing that is life had been honored equally and together, whereas in the later, male-oriented, partriarchal myths, all that is good and noble was attributed to the new, heroic master of gods, leaving to the native nature powers the character only of darkness--to which, also, a negative moral judgment now was added. For, as a great body of evidence shows, the social as well as mythic orders of the two contrasting ways of life were opposed. Where the goddess had been venerated as the giver and supporter of life as well as consumer of the dead, women as her representatives had been accorded a paramount position in society as well as in cult. Such an order of female-dominated social and cultic custom is termed, in a broad and general way, the order of Mother Right. And opposed to such, without quarter, is the order of the Patriarchy, with an ardor of righteous eloquence and a fury of fire and sword."
Moreover, the rhetoric from First Council of Nicaea still survives in word and intent in the Religious Right. Here are two more instances where the obvious seems to have been ignored, preceeded by a question.
How many patriarchal-fundamentalist's (Religious Right's) homes have goddess figures in them?
Source
"We found some fabulous new stuff last season," Hodder said, as he described the dig at layers of houses nearly 70 feet deep. "There's another 'mother goddess' figurine, and an extraordinary skull coated with plaster, colored in red and cradled in the arms of a female skeleton."
The female figures of humans even out numbered the males, and the
statuette of a majestic woman seated on what might have been a throne with her arms resting on the heads of two animals that appeared to be leopards.
To conclude, Demetra George’s words, Joseph Campbell’s words, the information in
Macrocosmic Genocide & Extermination I wrote, and the fact the male-dominated society has been in place and dominant for centuries for at least three and one half millennia that I’m aware of all lead me to my conclusion as well. I’m no world history scholar, but there have been ages that have gone into the next for catastrophic reasons, such as an asteroid or the climate changing drastically. What might be a historical equivalent? Genocide.
I’m saying that the reason for our current male-dominated society, as well as through the history of keeping women out of power religiously, politically, financially, and socially – is genocide. What might there be instead now?
Instead of or included with statues of Mother Mary might be statues of the goddess Isis. Instead of a society geared towards capitalism and the military industrial complex, agriculture, healthy practices of earth conservation and responsible use of technology might be more the norm, having applied those concepts as the Industrial Revolution brought the "innovations in technology."
All that being said, it is not denying that some matriarchal cultures and indigenous cultures had conflicts and war amongst themselves. There’s no idealization of that total history on my part, but the search is for a solution to the crisis that is now happening to the Inuit,
Environmental Human Rights & Justice: Killing The Inuit & Culture
It's no secret that US policies have caused environmental degradations and contributed to global warming. The devastating impact on Inuit communities -- which are located in Canada, Greenland, Alaska and Russia -- should be a wake-up call to the environmental crisis we face. The Inuit are suffering deaths, injuries, illnesses and losing their culture.
who I think were matriarchal as well. Whatever the case, there was gender equality, as is mentioned in the next source below.
Prior to European colonization efforts, many First Nation societies were matriarchal in nature. Missionaries and other Church officials discouraged matriarchal aspects of First Nation societies and encouraged the adoption of European norms of male dominance and control of women.
Here’s the additional information that leads me to believe that they were a matriarchy. I’m no expert on the Iniut.
Fear isn’t always "false evidence appearing real," sometimes it’s legitimate.
The point is, that as this happens.
Wet Water Shortage
As global climate change gets worse and worse, we're going to see more of this precipitation fall as rain. That will run off right away. That means winter runoff is going to grow. We're going to get more runoff in the winter periods, which is precisely the time we don't want it. We don't want a lot of winter runoff, because that's when we get the worst flooding and the worst damages from floods. At the same time what that means is that less of the snowpack is going to be available to run off in the spring and the summer. And so runoff in the spring and the summer is going to decrease. We're going to get less runoff at the time of the year when we need it the most. This is the worst of both possible worlds.
The Pictish Matriarchal society was replaced forcibly by the Patriarchal society of the Scots.
See the sixth paragraph for the history of the Picti being a matriarchal society.
T.D. Kendrick. "Druids And Druidism." P.202
Dr. Pokorny (loc. cit.) adds that traces of cannibalism, matriarchy, and the couvades in legend and folklore are additional signs of the non-indogermanic religion in the British Isles from which druidism is derived.
Of course, all there ever was or will be since the beginning of human history was and is the patriarchy. Nobody but them was in the global sandbox.
To the contrary, Demetra George and Joseph Campbell will now have their say.
Demetra George. "Mysteries Of The Dark Moon." P.28.
The answers to these questions can be found in the transition from matriarchal to patriarchal culture that occurred five millennia ago. Current researchers into ancient history, working in the fields of theology, archaeology, art history, and mythology, are uncovering evidence that, starting around 300 BCE, there occurred a transition in the predominant religious and political structures that governed humanity. Matriarchal societies, which had worshiped goddesses of the earth and moon such as Innana, Ishtar, Isis, Demeter, and Artemis, gave way to patriarchal societies, which followed the solar gods and heroes such as Gilgamesh, Amen Ra, Zeus, Yahweh, and Apollo.
(Emphasis is mine)
From Joseph Campbell, The Masks of God: Occidental Mythology Vol.3. 1964, Viking Press, New York p. 21-2
"For it is now perfectly clear that before the violent entry of the late Bronze and early Iron Age nomadic Aryan cattle-herders from the north and Semitic sheep-and-goat-herders from the south into the old cult sites of the ancient world, there had prevailed in that world an essentially organic, vegetal, non-heroic view of the nature and necessities of life that was completely repugnant to those lion hearts for whom not the patient toil of earth but the battle spear and its plunder were the source of both wealth and joy. In the older mother myths and rites the light and darker aspects of the mixed thing that is life had been honored equally and together, whereas in the later, male-oriented, partriarchal myths, all that is good and noble was attributed to the new, heroic master of gods, leaving to the native nature powers the character only of darkness--to which, also, a negative moral judgment now was added. For, as a great body of evidence shows, the social as well as mythic orders of the two contrasting ways of life were opposed. Where the goddess had been venerated as the giver and supporter of life as well as consumer of the dead, women as her representatives had been accorded a paramount position in society as well as in cult. Such an order of female-dominated social and cultic custom is termed, in a broad and general way, the order of Mother Right. And opposed to such, without quarter, is the order of the Patriarchy, with an ardor of righteous eloquence and a fury of fire and sword."
Moreover, the rhetoric from First Council of Nicaea still survives in word and intent in the Religious Right. Here are two more instances where the obvious seems to have been ignored, preceeded by a question.
How many patriarchal-fundamentalist's (Religious Right's) homes have goddess figures in them?
Source
"We found some fabulous new stuff last season," Hodder said, as he described the dig at layers of houses nearly 70 feet deep. "There's another 'mother goddess' figurine, and an extraordinary skull coated with plaster, colored in red and cradled in the arms of a female skeleton."
The female figures of humans even out numbered the males, and the
statuette of a majestic woman seated on what might have been a throne with her arms resting on the heads of two animals that appeared to be leopards.
To conclude, Demetra George’s words, Joseph Campbell’s words, the information in
Macrocosmic Genocide & Extermination I wrote, and the fact the male-dominated society has been in place and dominant for centuries for at least three and one half millennia that I’m aware of all lead me to my conclusion as well. I’m no world history scholar, but there have been ages that have gone into the next for catastrophic reasons, such as an asteroid or the climate changing drastically. What might be a historical equivalent? Genocide.
I’m saying that the reason for our current male-dominated society, as well as through the history of keeping women out of power religiously, politically, financially, and socially – is genocide. What might there be instead now?
Instead of or included with statues of Mother Mary might be statues of the goddess Isis. Instead of a society geared towards capitalism and the military industrial complex, agriculture, healthy practices of earth conservation and responsible use of technology might be more the norm, having applied those concepts as the Industrial Revolution brought the "innovations in technology."
All that being said, it is not denying that some matriarchal cultures and indigenous cultures had conflicts and war amongst themselves. There’s no idealization of that total history on my part, but the search is for a solution to the crisis that is now happening to the Inuit,
Environmental Human Rights & Justice: Killing The Inuit & Culture
It's no secret that US policies have caused environmental degradations and contributed to global warming. The devastating impact on Inuit communities -- which are located in Canada, Greenland, Alaska and Russia -- should be a wake-up call to the environmental crisis we face. The Inuit are suffering deaths, injuries, illnesses and losing their culture.
who I think were matriarchal as well. Whatever the case, there was gender equality, as is mentioned in the next source below.
Prior to European colonization efforts, many First Nation societies were matriarchal in nature. Missionaries and other Church officials discouraged matriarchal aspects of First Nation societies and encouraged the adoption of European norms of male dominance and control of women.
Here’s the additional information that leads me to believe that they were a matriarchy. I’m no expert on the Iniut.
Fear isn’t always "false evidence appearing real," sometimes it’s legitimate.
The point is, that as this happens.
Wet Water Shortage
As global climate change gets worse and worse, we're going to see more of this precipitation fall as rain. That will run off right away. That means winter runoff is going to grow. We're going to get more runoff in the winter periods, which is precisely the time we don't want it. We don't want a lot of winter runoff, because that's when we get the worst flooding and the worst damages from floods. At the same time what that means is that less of the snowpack is going to be available to run off in the spring and the summer. And so runoff in the spring and the summer is going to decrease. We're going to get less runoff at the time of the year when we need it the most. This is the worst of both possible worlds.
3 November 2016 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://web.archive.org/web/20110111224032/http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/17/2085/59963/2/324415
"There is a debate as to whether of not matriarchal societies existed.
The Venus Figurines were found throughout Europe, indicating the possible or likely existence of matriarchal societies in as much as 7500 BC years ago. I believe there were such societies.
I have no authority to say one way or the other; however, the ones that say matriarchal societies were but a myth leave out crucial facts and seem to ignore the obvious when looking at the issue more globally and socially when considering historical gender roles and status. All I will legitimately offer is my opinion with my reasoning for concluding as such, which is that the matriarchal societies fell because of genocide by what Joseph Campbell calls the "nomadic Aryan cattle-herders from the north and Semitic sheep-and-goat-herders from the south."
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To begin, one archaeologist from a site in Turkey concluded the following, who I think ignores the obvious.
Source
"I find it difficult to link all the figures and the wall paintings with the idea of a goddess," Hodder said. "I see them more as depictions of daily life, and our evidence so far doesn't suggest anything else."
Let’s go backwards in time and ask a question, framing it in about gender roles and which gender has had the most power overall for at least the last two millennia, historically speaking.
Do we live in a male-dominated society? Clearly, yes we do. Furthermore, since the Crucifixion is the point at which our time reference changes from BC to AD, was there anything equally significant after the Crucifixion that altered the face of Christianity and greatly enhanced the patriarchy? Yes, there was.
First Council of Nicaea
The purpose of the council was to resolve disagreements in the Church of Alexandria over the nature of Jesus in relationship to the Father; in particular, whether Jesus was of the same substance as God the Father or merely of similar substance.
Notice it was "God the Father;" not "Mother Goddess" or words to that effect. In addition,
Source
It (the man-made phrase "Son Of God") was thus the ideal means for separating the orthodox believers from the heretics.
I personally believe that is where Christianity ceased and gave rise to fundamentalism, notwithstanding the loyal followers of Christ’s teachings. Continuing on, remember what happened to those accused of heresy.
The use of the inquisition against heresy
Inquisition was one means by which both secular and Catholic courts addressed heresy.
And well worth noting is the fact thatthe "Patriarchs" of Constantinople did not include one woman. I can think of one female Saint, St. Mary. To be sure, there never has been a female Pope. So, I’ll ask the question again in retrospect, did they live in a male-dominated society then, too? Yes.
Going back even further, was society always male-dominated since the beginning of time and throughout human history? Similar or identical evidence produces different conclusions in the minds of Demetra George and Joseph Campbell than to Hodder and Cynthia Eller; but, before George's and Campbell's conclusions are given, here are some nondisputed matriarchal societies that existed, as instances where the "ones that say matriarchal societies were but a myth leave out crucial facts," as I stated in the introduction.
Facts about the Qualla Boundary and its people, the Cherokee
Once a matriarchal society with traditional stickball games settling disputes, a democratic form of government now exists.
I read during my research that there were no matriarchal societies in Europe; that it was a myth, as if no matriarchal cultures existed in Europe or in the Americas at that time.
Continuing on, imagine this.
Stella Georgoudi who writes about Creating a myth of matriarchy in Antiquity in A history of women in the West illuminates the historian’s view. She tries to show that the proofs for matriarchy are rather frail, based mainly on interpretation of Greek myths and Herodotus’ Histories. (See list of sources.) Her conclusion, that there was no matriarchy because of weakness of the proof, is however logically wrong. The proof of silence is not a good proof, not even in history.
To the group of matriarchies, or egalitarian societies, depending on how to define it, several Pacific and Native American cultures could be added, for example Pueblo Indians (the Zuni, Laguna and Hopi), the pre-19th century Iroquois and Innu (Montaignais-Naskapi), the Vanatinai, and Hawaii under Queen Liliuokani. Take a look at the list of matrifocal societies around the world.
Imagine that.
So, there were no matriarchal societies anywhere at any time in Europe. What about the Celts in Britain?
"There is a debate as to whether of not matriarchal societies existed.
The Venus Figurines were found throughout Europe, indicating the possible or likely existence of matriarchal societies in as much as 7500 BC years ago. I believe there were such societies.
I have no authority to say one way or the other; however, the ones that say matriarchal societies were but a myth leave out crucial facts and seem to ignore the obvious when looking at the issue more globally and socially when considering historical gender roles and status. All I will legitimately offer is my opinion with my reasoning for concluding as such, which is that the matriarchal societies fell because of genocide by what Joseph Campbell calls the "nomadic Aryan cattle-herders from the north and Semitic sheep-and-goat-herders from the south."
---
To begin, one archaeologist from a site in Turkey concluded the following, who I think ignores the obvious.
Source
"I find it difficult to link all the figures and the wall paintings with the idea of a goddess," Hodder said. "I see them more as depictions of daily life, and our evidence so far doesn't suggest anything else."
Let’s go backwards in time and ask a question, framing it in about gender roles and which gender has had the most power overall for at least the last two millennia, historically speaking.
Do we live in a male-dominated society? Clearly, yes we do. Furthermore, since the Crucifixion is the point at which our time reference changes from BC to AD, was there anything equally significant after the Crucifixion that altered the face of Christianity and greatly enhanced the patriarchy? Yes, there was.
First Council of Nicaea
The purpose of the council was to resolve disagreements in the Church of Alexandria over the nature of Jesus in relationship to the Father; in particular, whether Jesus was of the same substance as God the Father or merely of similar substance.
Notice it was "God the Father;" not "Mother Goddess" or words to that effect. In addition,
Source
It (the man-made phrase "Son Of God") was thus the ideal means for separating the orthodox believers from the heretics.
I personally believe that is where Christianity ceased and gave rise to fundamentalism, notwithstanding the loyal followers of Christ’s teachings. Continuing on, remember what happened to those accused of heresy.
The use of the inquisition against heresy
Inquisition was one means by which both secular and Catholic courts addressed heresy.
And well worth noting is the fact thatthe "Patriarchs" of Constantinople did not include one woman. I can think of one female Saint, St. Mary. To be sure, there never has been a female Pope. So, I’ll ask the question again in retrospect, did they live in a male-dominated society then, too? Yes.
Going back even further, was society always male-dominated since the beginning of time and throughout human history? Similar or identical evidence produces different conclusions in the minds of Demetra George and Joseph Campbell than to Hodder and Cynthia Eller; but, before George's and Campbell's conclusions are given, here are some nondisputed matriarchal societies that existed, as instances where the "ones that say matriarchal societies were but a myth leave out crucial facts," as I stated in the introduction.
Facts about the Qualla Boundary and its people, the Cherokee
Once a matriarchal society with traditional stickball games settling disputes, a democratic form of government now exists.
I read during my research that there were no matriarchal societies in Europe; that it was a myth, as if no matriarchal cultures existed in Europe or in the Americas at that time.
Continuing on, imagine this.
Stella Georgoudi who writes about Creating a myth of matriarchy in Antiquity in A history of women in the West illuminates the historian’s view. She tries to show that the proofs for matriarchy are rather frail, based mainly on interpretation of Greek myths and Herodotus’ Histories. (See list of sources.) Her conclusion, that there was no matriarchy because of weakness of the proof, is however logically wrong. The proof of silence is not a good proof, not even in history.
To the group of matriarchies, or egalitarian societies, depending on how to define it, several Pacific and Native American cultures could be added, for example Pueblo Indians (the Zuni, Laguna and Hopi), the pre-19th century Iroquois and Innu (Montaignais-Naskapi), the Vanatinai, and Hawaii under Queen Liliuokani. Take a look at the list of matrifocal societies around the world.
Imagine that.
So, there were no matriarchal societies anywhere at any time in Europe. What about the Celts in Britain?
3 November 2016 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Our people had many female Chiefs. When DeSoto came crusading through Sally SC, he knew there appeared a female Chief.
My theory is when the sexist European men came here, they refused to talk to the females and only spoke to the men, whether they were Chiefs, fathers, uncles, brothers, etc…
In today’s modern society we have Great Indigenous woman. Think of Wilma Mankiller, who revived her Nation. Then there is Mary Bravebird, Leonard Crowdog’s wife, who took part in destroying the decrepid BIA building and Wounded Knee. Then there’s LeNada Means, who took part in Alcatraz, just to name many things she did for Indian country.
We, in America, are living in a Patriarchial, Protestant country and, as Winona LaDuke claims, our homes, our MOther is being destroyed because of their biblical bs manifest destiny. It’s all hypocracy. People from Indian Country discourage me as they say that their hands are tied because it takes lawyers to sue the perpetraters. In Canada, a class action suit was brought against the churches who had raped, beated, killed, etc… the children and they won and caused many of these perverted priests to go bankrupt.
I would like to see another revolution like alcatraz, but considering the power of these half-cocked US congressmen and Senators and Leonard Peltier, what can be done. If we coild make coalitions with black folks and environmentalists, we may have a case.
What do you think?
I understand I’ve gone off the topic here on your wonderful topic of matriarchial societies. History shows thereis less war and more civilization building, plus more egalitarianism for both sexes with Matriarchial societies. Marsha Nightmare was GOOD for the feminist cause and still is as she is turning them on to goddess cultures, very much like indigenous earth, air, fire, water, spirit, and the love of nature. That gives them a recourse from that horrible Christianity which advocates rape and women as second-class. I take everything I read on Wichipedia and poop on it! If we as humans and all spieces are to live , we must return to Matriarchial societies or at the least, egalitarian societies, as the Irish had.
My theory is when the sexist European men came here, they refused to talk to the females and only spoke to the men, whether they were Chiefs, fathers, uncles, brothers, etc…
In today’s modern society we have Great Indigenous woman. Think of Wilma Mankiller, who revived her Nation. Then there is Mary Bravebird, Leonard Crowdog’s wife, who took part in destroying the decrepid BIA building and Wounded Knee. Then there’s LeNada Means, who took part in Alcatraz, just to name many things she did for Indian country.
We, in America, are living in a Patriarchial, Protestant country and, as Winona LaDuke claims, our homes, our MOther is being destroyed because of their biblical bs manifest destiny. It’s all hypocracy. People from Indian Country discourage me as they say that their hands are tied because it takes lawyers to sue the perpetraters. In Canada, a class action suit was brought against the churches who had raped, beated, killed, etc… the children and they won and caused many of these perverted priests to go bankrupt.
I would like to see another revolution like alcatraz, but considering the power of these half-cocked US congressmen and Senators and Leonard Peltier, what can be done. If we coild make coalitions with black folks and environmentalists, we may have a case.
What do you think?
I understand I’ve gone off the topic here on your wonderful topic of matriarchial societies. History shows thereis less war and more civilization building, plus more egalitarianism for both sexes with Matriarchial societies. Marsha Nightmare was GOOD for the feminist cause and still is as she is turning them on to goddess cultures, very much like indigenous earth, air, fire, water, spirit, and the love of nature. That gives them a recourse from that horrible Christianity which advocates rape and women as second-class. I take everything I read on Wichipedia and poop on it! If we as humans and all spieces are to live , we must return to Matriarchial societies or at the least, egalitarian societies, as the Irish had.
3 November 2016 01:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I wrote The Genocide of Matriarchal Societies in April of 2007, and there is some additional information I want to share along those general lines now. We’ll pick up where we left off and the answer to “Where Are All Your Women” will be made chillingly clear as to why they are “Missing In Action.” First however, we will reread the words of Archie Fire Lame Deer and relish in the scholarship of Barbara Alice Mann.
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Archie Fire Lame Deer had discovered enormous commonalties in terms of visual imagery between those in his father’s Yuwipi ceremonies and the visual imagery of the Black Madonna. Next, he learned that medicine men and Black Madonnas shared the same tragic fate.
..one last example of synchronicity is between the Lakota and a prehistoric cave in France. Archie Fire Lame tells briefly of his travels there with his daughter, while talking to a guide he described as a “spiritual man.”
Archie
Fire Lame Deer & Richard Erdoes. “Gift Of Power.” pp. 277-278.
I found the image of a buffalo carved out of the living rock with water from a sacred spring flowing from its mouth. While I was contemplating this, I heard (his daughter) holler, “Daddy, quick, come here!” – There revealed a face exactly like the one my father always used during his Yuwipi ceremonies –
Then our guide said, “All this goes back thousands of years before Christianity.” – (He) kept the image of a dark-skinned prophetess that nowadays is called the “Black Madonna.” He told me, “They called her and her sisters witches and burned them at the stake.”
“I know all about this,” I said. “They called our medicine men witch doctors and shot them dead for the same reasons.” He went on, “This here has survived. Few have been inside this cave. You have been chosen.”
Next, Barbara Alice Mann has made such valuable contributions in terms of outlining and defining the “Western obliteration of women from the record, (p. 129)” that I don’t think it can be retold too many times.
Unlearning the Language of Conquest Scholars Expose Anti-Indianism in America. “Where Are Your Women?: Missing In Action,” by Barbara Alice Mann. p. 121, 122, 124.
…in the often fractious discussions of the extent of Native American contributions to modern Euro – American culture, the glaring omission of women continues almost utterly unaddressed…Worse, from the European perspective, was the level of political clout wielded by woodlands women. The sixteenth – century Spaniards in La Florida (the whole American southwest) were nonplussed by matrilineage and the cacicas (female chiefs) with whom they were forced to deal…Spanish frustration was not a little focused on Guale females, who undermined patriarchal tampering with Guale culture…In 1724, the Jesuit missionary Joseph Francois Lafitau recorded in astonishment that Haudenosaunee women were “the souls of the councils…” Judicial affairs so entirely belonged to women that any woodlands man who wished to become a jurist or a negotiator had first to have been “made a woman” in order to be qualified for the job…
Mann then proceeds to outline the methods of genocide and cultural genocide used to destroy “the level of political clout wielded by woodlands women.” She tells how the Spanish forced these women “to scalp their own sons, husbands, fathers, and brothers,” and then Mann outlines “pen – and – ink witchcraft.” “Pen – and – ink witchcraft” can be thought of as deliberately revising history. Mann continues to discuss how the “pen – and – ink witchcraft” was used in attempting to change the character and even the very gender of various entities in creation stories.
Mann ends with the following request, “We need the strong arms of our brothers reinforcing us in this effort.” While I’m not a scholar, this is the best I can do.
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Archie Fire Lame Deer had discovered enormous commonalties in terms of visual imagery between those in his father’s Yuwipi ceremonies and the visual imagery of the Black Madonna. Next, he learned that medicine men and Black Madonnas shared the same tragic fate.
..one last example of synchronicity is between the Lakota and a prehistoric cave in France. Archie Fire Lame tells briefly of his travels there with his daughter, while talking to a guide he described as a “spiritual man.”
Archie
Fire Lame Deer & Richard Erdoes. “Gift Of Power.” pp. 277-278.
I found the image of a buffalo carved out of the living rock with water from a sacred spring flowing from its mouth. While I was contemplating this, I heard (his daughter) holler, “Daddy, quick, come here!” – There revealed a face exactly like the one my father always used during his Yuwipi ceremonies –
Then our guide said, “All this goes back thousands of years before Christianity.” – (He) kept the image of a dark-skinned prophetess that nowadays is called the “Black Madonna.” He told me, “They called her and her sisters witches and burned them at the stake.”
“I know all about this,” I said. “They called our medicine men witch doctors and shot them dead for the same reasons.” He went on, “This here has survived. Few have been inside this cave. You have been chosen.”
Next, Barbara Alice Mann has made such valuable contributions in terms of outlining and defining the “Western obliteration of women from the record, (p. 129)” that I don’t think it can be retold too many times.
Unlearning the Language of Conquest Scholars Expose Anti-Indianism in America. “Where Are Your Women?: Missing In Action,” by Barbara Alice Mann. p. 121, 122, 124.
…in the often fractious discussions of the extent of Native American contributions to modern Euro – American culture, the glaring omission of women continues almost utterly unaddressed…Worse, from the European perspective, was the level of political clout wielded by woodlands women. The sixteenth – century Spaniards in La Florida (the whole American southwest) were nonplussed by matrilineage and the cacicas (female chiefs) with whom they were forced to deal…Spanish frustration was not a little focused on Guale females, who undermined patriarchal tampering with Guale culture…In 1724, the Jesuit missionary Joseph Francois Lafitau recorded in astonishment that Haudenosaunee women were “the souls of the councils…” Judicial affairs so entirely belonged to women that any woodlands man who wished to become a jurist or a negotiator had first to have been “made a woman” in order to be qualified for the job…
Mann then proceeds to outline the methods of genocide and cultural genocide used to destroy “the level of political clout wielded by woodlands women.” She tells how the Spanish forced these women “to scalp their own sons, husbands, fathers, and brothers,” and then Mann outlines “pen – and – ink witchcraft.” “Pen – and – ink witchcraft” can be thought of as deliberately revising history. Mann continues to discuss how the “pen – and – ink witchcraft” was used in attempting to change the character and even the very gender of various entities in creation stories.
Mann ends with the following request, “We need the strong arms of our brothers reinforcing us in this effort.” While I’m not a scholar, this is the best I can do.
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3 November 2016 01:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Shamanic Activism
and now the "equal rights" and equality movement try to do almost 1:1 what communism did,who invented fake feminism to control women spirit and to prevent Matriarchy..3 November 2016 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on Joanna Kossak's post.
Group: Shamanic Activism
But yes, these articles make disservice, as there is MUCH more known worlds of Matriarchy, and they fail to say, that this is how all world was, when it was alright ..
Even Estonia originally is Matriarchial.. house keysand important things was guarded by women and it has been great sin ever to hit a women or to hold her down.. but then come communism..3 November 2016 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tuareg
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Tuareg are Berber people who live a nomadic lifestyle living in the Saharan dessert. In society, women have high status and the tribes are organized into confederations, where many women hold the power of reading and writing, with men herding livestock. Livestock and other movable property, however, are owned largely by women, whereas personal property is owned and inherited regardless of gender. The Tuareg are Muslim but are also influenced by their pre-existing beliefs—including matrilineal customs.
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Tuareg are Berber people who live a nomadic lifestyle living in the Saharan dessert. In society, women have high status and the tribes are organized into confederations, where many women hold the power of reading and writing, with men herding livestock. Livestock and other movable property, however, are owned largely by women, whereas personal property is owned and inherited regardless of gender. The Tuareg are Muslim but are also influenced by their pre-existing beliefs—including matrilineal customs.
3 November 2016 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
3 November 2016 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Bribri
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Located in Costa Rica and northern Panama, the Bribri is a matrilineal line where women inherit the lands and create extended families. Children enter the mother's clan, and grandmothers are seen as the arbiters of tradition and knowledge. While men take on roles of importance, they are not allowed to "pass on" this knowledge or job to their sons, but rather only to their female relatives' sons. Women are given the right and ritual to prepare the cacao used in sacred Bribri rituals, giving them utmost importance in any clan.
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Located in Costa Rica and northern Panama, the Bribri is a matrilineal line where women inherit the lands and create extended families. Children enter the mother's clan, and grandmothers are seen as the arbiters of tradition and knowledge. While men take on roles of importance, they are not allowed to "pass on" this knowledge or job to their sons, but rather only to their female relatives' sons. Women are given the right and ritual to prepare the cacao used in sacred Bribri rituals, giving them utmost importance in any clan.
3 November 2016 00:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Akan
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The Akan society is a multi-ethnic group in Ghana, where everything centers around a matriclan, clans founded by women. Men are often leaders of the clan, but their power comes from matrilineal lines—meaning power is descended through the man's mothers and sisters. Men not only support their own families, but also the families of his female relatives. Women conduct many rites and ceremonies—like funerals—and are typically leaders in the food and domestic spheres.
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The Akan society is a multi-ethnic group in Ghana, where everything centers around a matriclan, clans founded by women. Men are often leaders of the clan, but their power comes from matrilineal lines—meaning power is descended through the man's mothers and sisters. Men not only support their own families, but also the families of his female relatives. Women conduct many rites and ceremonies—like funerals—and are typically leaders in the food and domestic spheres.
3 November 2016 00:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Minangkabau
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Also known as Minang, this group is located in Indonesia, and is matrilineal in that property, land, and inheritance is passed from mother to daughter. Low inheritance—such as income—is passed from father to son. In the past, this kept women in power, but now, "low income" is taking precedent and making a bit of a change in their modernizing society. Lineage is still traced through the mother's line, though, and the mother is the head of the family. Grooms are traditionally "given away" to the bride by female members of his family, who escort him to the home of the bride. Power and authority are generally shared between men and women, with women ruling the "domestic" sphere and men ruling the political and spiritual roles. Both genders believe this gives each equal footing. While the clan chief is male, women select the chief and have the power to remove him should he fail as a leader.
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Also known as Minang, this group is located in Indonesia, and is matrilineal in that property, land, and inheritance is passed from mother to daughter. Low inheritance—such as income—is passed from father to son. In the past, this kept women in power, but now, "low income" is taking precedent and making a bit of a change in their modernizing society. Lineage is still traced through the mother's line, though, and the mother is the head of the family. Grooms are traditionally "given away" to the bride by female members of his family, who escort him to the home of the bride. Power and authority are generally shared between men and women, with women ruling the "domestic" sphere and men ruling the political and spiritual roles. Both genders believe this gives each equal footing. While the clan chief is male, women select the chief and have the power to remove him should he fail as a leader.
3 November 2016 00:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mosuo
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The Mosuo of China (living in the foothills of the Himalayan Mountains) are one of the best-known examples of a matrilineal society, where inheritance is passed down the female line and women have their choice of partners. In fact, they practice something called a "walking marriage," which is essentially the practice of women choosing their partner by walking to his home—and many women have multiple partners/marriages. Children take their mother's name and live with their mothers, while the men may or may not be involved in the raising of the kids. They often live with extended families in large households, with women handling all business decisions. Men often play a role politics, but the most respected person in any household is the grandmother. (For more insight, check out this short documentary.)
Fun fact: There is no word in their language for "father" or "husband."
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The Mosuo of China (living in the foothills of the Himalayan Mountains) are one of the best-known examples of a matrilineal society, where inheritance is passed down the female line and women have their choice of partners. In fact, they practice something called a "walking marriage," which is essentially the practice of women choosing their partner by walking to his home—and many women have multiple partners/marriages. Children take their mother's name and live with their mothers, while the men may or may not be involved in the raising of the kids. They often live with extended families in large households, with women handling all business decisions. Men often play a role politics, but the most respected person in any household is the grandmother. (For more insight, check out this short documentary.)
Fun fact: There is no word in their language for "father" or "husband."
3 November 2016 00:56
Margus Meigo commented on Joanna Kossak's post.
Group: Shamanic Activism
But encyclopedia and Wikipedia in many languages still say, that matriarchy is a fantasy invation that newer have not excised and will also not.
And the WIkipedia based ones opinion on these kind of scholarly
works: https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Matriarchal-Prehistory-Invented-Future/product-reviews/080706792X/ref=cm_cr_dp_qt_hist_one?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=all_reviews&showViewpoints=0https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Matriarchal-Prehistory-Invented-Future/product-reviews/080706792X/ref=cm_cr_dp_qt_hist_one?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=all_reviews&showViewpoints=0
3 November 2016 00:52
Margus Meigo commented on Katiushka Borges's post.
Group: Shamanic Activism
He knows how to save a soul, smart man!3 November 2016 00:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Hillar Kohvi grupp
pikas plaanis3 November 2016 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on Hillar Kohv's post.
Group: Hillar Kohvi grupp
Ega õigluse vastu ei saa3 November 2016 00:35
Margus Meigo commented on Hillar Kohv's post.
Group: Hillar Kohvi grupp
igasuguseid rituaale on milleks inimesi kasutataks,e valgeid küll täiesti keha hakkimiseks nüüd suht vähe, sest mei lsiin enamus numbritega kirjas... kuid aegajalt ikka tuleb ette..
Kuid jah, vahest ka inimesed ise kaovad või soovivad kaduda3 November 2016 00:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Hillar Kohvi grupp
madison rääkis oma hippindusest Expressis oma tagasituleku suures artiklis, kui uuesti eesti armastus peale tuli (või oli see postimees? Keegi oskab artiklit leida?)3 November 2016 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hillar Kohvi grupp
Muidugi eks seda veel on kuuld,a kas nad ikka olid Päris hippid või oli see nõukogude aja sõnakõlks..3 November 2016 00:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Activist ★ Democrats
i can see the game in spiritually but to explain it in earth level so it would make sense, would take sometime and partner.. to put this on human language2 November 2016 23:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Activist ★ Democrats
and i not say here, that trump it self, in soul level would be violent or evil, compared to these forces who want to control USA by using Trump and threatening Hillary.
IN illuminati level, it is, co-operation, to save USA from the most dangerous hands... and it is not really the hands of one or another, but the forces that try to use them..
USA is really smart, to make situation like that, and to save the world and a future,2 November 2016 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on John Atherton's post.
Group: Activist ★ Democrats
For a correction, these are not really a "right wing" people who are against Hillary but proper red left ones and other Greek-Roman empire dream holders, as She is the one who will mark a point where people can choose between Matriarchy and slavery .
Right wings are the proper ones, just in USA it is clearly upside down in many levels, where people like Trump supporters who like violence and lack of spirituality and intelligence at sometimes, but most of all, who like dominance over Women, these are the ones, who do not like Hillary.
There is no republican and democrat, left and right issue (unless You think leftist are red, communist minded - then these are most deeply against female power, these leftist scheme is to work in RIGHT AND left side, at same time, for infiltration, for making image bad and for making trouble and attacks, .... )2 November 2016 23:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Laurie Colson yea they told something about they not dancing but boogie,
2 November 2016 20:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
does not help so much for the ones who want to jump because of failed overusing acid thought..
2 November 2016 19:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or something like that.. how to implement that as common knowledge..
and then perhaps the similar kinds can find each other after personality change
yeah cynical i know but still, real as well
and then perhaps the similar kinds can find each other after personality change
yeah cynical i know but still, real as well
2 November 2016 19:58
Margus Meigo commented on D Keith Dobson Jr.'s post.
well, if You jump like that You can hurt Yourself
there is so much more creative things to do
anyone before doing something so egoistic (as others have to take effort to get her off the wall later...) should take 1200 mic of LSD and top of that other things that can get hold of, if is needed after this,
and for middle class normal society women, who can afford to limb so high up in house, in so expensive neighborhood, for sure she could be able to find ways to get money that is needed for getting psychedelics.. not that them would help necessarily, but it is just so much more interesting and potential for Something ..
this should be common self help message : If You want to kill Yourself, start from killing Your Ego -. Take free sample of mushrooms mega-dose
there is so much more creative things to do
anyone before doing something so egoistic (as others have to take effort to get her off the wall later...) should take 1200 mic of LSD and top of that other things that can get hold of, if is needed after this,
and for middle class normal society women, who can afford to limb so high up in house, in so expensive neighborhood, for sure she could be able to find ways to get money that is needed for getting psychedelics.. not that them would help necessarily, but it is just so much more interesting and potential for Something ..
this should be common self help message : If You want to kill Yourself, start from killing Your Ego -. Take free sample of mushrooms mega-dose
2 November 2016 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Not sure about him, i am on member of better world
but i do know many reasons how these kind will bother my world and will be used to bother more other worlds up to the point that "they" have right to personally come and bother all of our world for good
but i do know many reasons how these kind will bother my world and will be used to bother more other worlds up to the point that "they" have right to personally come and bother all of our world for good
2 November 2016 19:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
most likely i missed half of the local lingo but another half is still messed and needs basic Earth ABC help
2 November 2016 19:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
things i have not figured out, are these kind of people really laughing about their own lyrics later over a joint or are they for real, taking them self seriously
wonder how many of them have been growing a plant besides cannabis for food and beauty
wonder how many of them have been growing a plant besides cannabis for food and beauty
2 November 2016 19:31
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
.... glad there is net for lyrics, would miss all this intense folklore
"..All on the grass, every bitch passed
A first not last, when we all hit the ass
Doin' tricks jacked up like a six[what]
One Pussy, and thirteen dicks
Gangstas don't dance, we boogie[ahhh]
Niggas run out and get ya cookie.."
// they even added their own [what?!] in to it
hitting the ass and 13 dicks is that some king of street homo thing or something ? why would anyone want that situation to sing about...
",,As the sun frowns on my forehead
I sweat murder which makes me a walking dead man
Man bringing more bad news than shlepp rock
When I bust shots
W.C. keep the hammer cocked,,"
// not sure where be bathroom fits in but when 13 dick fitted before, so lets go on..
okey and then the dope guy:
"..Now what's next I'm stuffed like a Kotex
Blindin' niggas with the boogers in my Rolex
With my aces o-t on a regular basis
We got pauveted faces fightin' federal cases
Cause ain't nothin' reala' than niggas gettin' they scrilla .."
and then this boor cry about society:
"Damn it's a trip, all these cameras goin up
I can't go here, I can't go there
I feel institutionalized
And I'm on the street"
yea man.. all these cameras bothering the peaceful gang rapes and killings, really unfair, must be hard life on streets with the Rollex and firearms
"..All on the grass, every bitch passed
A first not last, when we all hit the ass
Doin' tricks jacked up like a six[what]
One Pussy, and thirteen dicks
Gangstas don't dance, we boogie[ahhh]
Niggas run out and get ya cookie.."
// they even added their own [what?!] in to it
hitting the ass and 13 dicks is that some king of street homo thing or something ? why would anyone want that situation to sing about...
",,As the sun frowns on my forehead
I sweat murder which makes me a walking dead man
Man bringing more bad news than shlepp rock
When I bust shots
W.C. keep the hammer cocked,,"
// not sure where be bathroom fits in but when 13 dick fitted before, so lets go on..
okey and then the dope guy:
"..Now what's next I'm stuffed like a Kotex
Blindin' niggas with the boogers in my Rolex
With my aces o-t on a regular basis
We got pauveted faces fightin' federal cases
Cause ain't nothin' reala' than niggas gettin' they scrilla .."
and then this boor cry about society:
"Damn it's a trip, all these cameras goin up
I can't go here, I can't go there
I feel institutionalized
And I'm on the street"
yea man.. all these cameras bothering the peaceful gang rapes and killings, really unfair, must be hard life on streets with the Rollex and firearms
2 November 2016 19:29
Margus Meigo commented on Janne Günnap's post.
Group: Tutvus
Mida veidraid kysimusi preilidaam2 November 2016 18:10
Margus Meigo commented on Silas Elemental Hein's post.
Group: Tutvus
miks Sa lipsu kannad2 November 2016 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on Carita Kalda's post.
Group: Tutvus
Kutt tegi nalja
Üksi mees, kui ta just Homo pole, ei soovi naist näha meigiga,
meigist just päris mehed naist vabastada proovivad, et nod enesekindlad oma päris enda ilu osas olema hakkavad ja vastalt naturaalselt särama,
mitte meigivangis olema2 November 2016 18:08
Margus Meigo commented on Marek Kast's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kuid suht inetu jah, EAS'i ja enamuse Eesti meedia poolt, liberaal-kommunistlikult siin kulakuid taga jada.
Asi on ju selgemast selge, ja ka see ,et kuna ta vabamüürlastega ringiratast pederallet mängida ei soovinud siis keeratakse muud moodi, igaüks kes meedia noote tõlgendada ei oska, millal on organiseeritud rünnak ja millal mitte, see peaks oma emotsioone mujale investeerima kui iga punaste riigivastaste mustamisplaanidega kaasa minema, koos kohaliku kommunismi rakukestaga,
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/toomas-hendrik-ilvese-selgitus-eesti-avalikkusele?id=76001043http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/toomas-hendrik-ilvese-selgitus-eesti-avalikkusele?id=76001043
2 November 2016 17:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kui sa arvad, et see sin asi on, mille üle kõvasti mõelda vaja on, siis oleme küll suts teisel vibratsioonil2 November 2016 17:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Me siin ei räägi mingist Jobust vaid ilvesest,
EAS i väärtus tõusis, et Ilves üldse nendega tegemist tegi
Miks nad seda edasi sellena ei hoidnud millena ta moõleud oli, on teine asi, oleks odavam olnud ja ilma mõtetu kärata seeaeg kui siin päris "eestlased" on juba pool Pärnust maha müünud ja oma vanemate kodukohad tuhandetes jagatakse kopikate eest vaenlastele sõjaväebaasideks ja Pokkeri rahadeks, ja siis tuleme siin kutsikatena hakuma Ilvese suuruste tgeelaste kallal ?
on anarshistid ikka2 November 2016 17:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
ärritavad kohe sellised oma kodumaa ja riigi vastased,
puna ideoloogiat kandvad inimesed, kes ise ka aru ei saa ega endale ei oska tunnistada, keda nad teenivad ja miks2 November 2016 15:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
enamus siinmaalastest ei sobi tema kingapaleu ka siduma ja siis ilguvad ja ilguvad.... nu jah, sellepärast ilguvatki, et ei sobi..2 November 2016 15:54
Margus Meigo commented on Marek Kast's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
täeilikud EU ja pürokraatia kutsikad.. et mida iganes viisnurk näeb ja regulatsioon, siis kohe toetama, oma inimeste vastu... nagu halloo2 November 2016 15:53
Margus Meigo commented on Marek Kast's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Meie presidenti tümitatakse, ja siis arvame, et "õigesti" hakkavad asjad käima ?
Mis loogika,
Normaalsetele inimestele, suurteeneid tegevatele, võiks olla ka suured erandid ja loomulikult tal elu ja plaanid muutusid koos uue naise ja elusuunaga, tegu ei ole mingi sala sahkerdisega kes proovib mingi kinnisvarapealt raha teenida ja seda maha müüa,
mõelge mõistlikult2 November 2016 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on Ciara Cizzy's post.
Group: tutvus 30+
Riista imemine on üldseväga moest ära läinjud tegevus,
kui see naise soovunelm on mõned korrad elus seda pakkuda, see tema enda asi, kuid häda neile meestele kes arvavad, et neil vähemgi õigus node asjade osas nõuda või lunida on, ... need ikka energia maailmas pahupidi asjad mis keeravad ka suhte suhet vastupidi.
Sex üldse on ainuisikluliselt naise õigus ainult ,aegade algusest saati olnud.
Kurb ka naistest kes seda ei tea, ja kogu oma olemuse ja õiguse juba korra ära andnud on, ennast maha müünud.. ja kui korra libastud.. siis uuest iõiget suhet ja korda mehega tagasi saada kes Matriarhaatia asjast tuhkagi ei mõista, on ikka väga raske, enemasti võimatu (ehk siis lõppeb suhte loppemisega kuna mees hakkab ette kujutama,et tal on õigus nõuda või rutiinselt keppi saada)
http://www.jewfaq.org/sex.htmhttp://www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm
2 November 2016 15:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Õnneks paar naist helistas ja panid asjad paika,
tõi ta ka hea näite kuidas kommunistid eelmine kord juba seda ajupesu proovisid tekitada poisi ja tüdruku osas,
Muidugi unustatakse elementaarne vahest, et see on Greeka-Rooma filosoofia mis on tekitanud kommunistid ja naisevastalisuse (ehk siis "võrdõigusluse")
tõi ta ka hea näite kuidas kommunistid eelmine kord juba seda ajupesu proovisid tekitada poisi ja tüdruku osas,
Muidugi unustatakse elementaarne vahest, et see on Greeka-Rooma filosoofia mis on tekitanud kommunistid ja naisevastalisuse (ehk siis "võrdõigusluse")
2 November 2016 13:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Praegu sooline ebavõrdsuse teema kuid enne oli ka veganlus:
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/huvitaja/saated/ffbee16c-0f67-4f56-a3de-02d9baaf770f/huvitaja-vegan-elustiil
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/huvitaja/saated/ffbee16c-0f67-4f56-a3de-02d9baaf770f/huvitaja-vegan-elustiil
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/huvitaja/saated/ffbee16c-0f67-4f56-a3de-02d9baaf770f/huvitaja-vegan-elustiil
2 November 2016 13:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Introducing Instant Articles, a new tool for publishers to create fast, interactive articles on Facebook.
2 November 2016 12:44
Margus Meigo commented on Facebook Media's video.
Okey,
Good Story is Sharable ?
But someone made hard effort that one would not be able to copy or get this video address to share it in more places then just by "share button"
Why?
Good Story is Sharable ?
But someone made hard effort that one would not be able to copy or get this video address to share it in more places then just by "share button"
Why?
2 November 2016 03:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
""The connection between byline and Page or Profile is created after a person clicks through a web article posted to Facebook. When the reader returns to News Feed after reading the article, the story preview will display a Follow button at the bottom of the News Feed unit for journalists with Facebook Profiles and a Like button for journalists with Facebook Pages.""
http://media.fb.com/2015/06/18/using-author-tags-to-grow-your-audience/
http://media.fb.com/2015/06/18/using-author-tags-to-grow-your-audience/
http://media.fb.com/2015/06/18/using-author-tags-to-grow-your-audience/
2 November 2016 03:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Introducing Signal, for Facebook and Instagram, a free discovery and curation tool for journalists who want to source, gather, and embed newsworthy content from Facebook and Instagram, across news, culture, entertainment, sports, and more.
http://media.fb.com/2015/09/17/introducing-signal/
http://media.fb.com/2015/09/17/introducing-signal/
http://media.fb.com/2015/09/17/introducing-signal/
2 November 2016 03:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
enabling better music discovery and sharing on the Facebook iPhone app. Read below about how you can now share and engage with music more.
http://media.fb.com/2015/11/05/music-stories-a-better-way-to-discover-and-share-music/
http://media.fb.com/2015/11/05/music-stories-a-better-way-to-discover-and-share-music/
http://media.fb.com/2015/11/05/music-stories-a-better-way-to-discover-and-share-music/
2 November 2016 03:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Over 150 million members of the Facebook community are connected to a nonprofit to learn about the good they are doing in the world. Read more about the new tools we're introducing today to help charities raise awareness and funds directly on Facebook.
http://media.fb.com/2015/11/18/introducing-new-tools-for-nonprofits/
http://media.fb.com/2015/11/18/introducing-new-tools-for-nonprofits/
http://media.fb.com/2015/11/18/introducing-new-tools-for-nonprofits/
2 November 2016 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Notes on Facebook allow you to express yourself in a new way, by having the depth of a long form essay combined with the richness of visual images. Learn more about our Best Practices for using Facebook Notes.
https://www.facebook.com/facebookmedia/best-practices/notes
https://www.facebook.com/facebookmedia/best-practices/notes
https://www.facebook.com/facebookmedia/best-practices/notes
2 November 2016 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
A new app for actors, athletes, musicians and other influencers to discover and join conversations on Facebook.
http://facebook.com/mentions
https://www.facebook.com/facebookmentions/
http://facebook.com/mentions
https://www.facebook.com/facebookmentions/
http://facebook.com/mentions
2 November 2016 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Facebook has become one of the best places for TV networks and show creators to connect with and build a community of fans. That's why we're pleased to announce a new alliance with Nielsen as they work toward an industry-standard metric that captures the total social conversation around television.
The new “Social Content Ratings” is an expansion of the Nielsen Twitter TV Ratings and will include Facebook conversation data for the first time. Read more in our latest blog.
http://wp.me/p4OjKh-XG
The new “Social Content Ratings” is an expansion of the Nielsen Twitter TV Ratings and will include Facebook conversation data for the first time. Read more in our latest blog.
http://wp.me/p4OjKh-XG
http://wp.me/p4OjKh-XG
2 November 2016 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Instant Articles was built to enhance the experience for people reading news on their phones. Slow loading is a problem that impacts publishers of all sizes, especially those with audiences where low connectivity is an issue.
In April, we’re excited to be able to make it fast and easy for all publishers to reach their audiences on Facebook.
http://media.fb.com/2016/02/17/opening-up-instant-articles/
http://media.fb.com/2015/12/16/instant-articles-launches-to-android/
In April, we’re excited to be able to make it fast and easy for all publishers to reach their audiences on Facebook.
http://media.fb.com/2016/02/17/opening-up-instant-articles/
http://media.fb.com/2015/12/16/instant-articles-launches-to-android/
http://media.fb.com/2016/02/17/opening-up-instant-articles/
2 November 2016 02:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
During the recent Republican and Democratic conventions, media and journalists from around the world turned to Facebook Live to communicate important moments and share new angles with their audiences, culminating in over 8,500 hours-worth (356 days) of live content that was viewed 120.3 million times.
https://media.fb.com/2016/08/02/how-media-companies-used-facebook-live-during-the-republican-and-democratic-conventions/
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https://media.fb.com/2016/08/02/how-media-companies-used-facebook-live-during-the-republican-and-democratic-conventions/
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https://media.fb.com/2016/08/02/how-media-companies-used-facebook-live-during-the-republican-and-democratic-conventions/
2 November 2016 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
People on Facebook are engaging with Facebook Live in new ways. Live video is immediate and social, and we’ve seen that people comment 10 times more on Facebook Live videos than on regular videos. Read more about the trends we've seen regarding breaking news events, suspense, weather, and local journalists.
https://media.fb.com/2016/10/06/trends-facebook-live-news-publishers/
https://media.fb.com/2016/10/06/trends-facebook-live-news-publishers/
https://media.fb.com/2016/10/06/trends-facebook-live-news-publishers/
2 November 2016 02:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Facebook 360 videos place viewers right in the story, which is why we’re excited to announce a new feature that will immerse them even further.
https://media.fb.com/2016/10/07/introducing-spatial-audio-for-360-videos-on-facebook/
About video: http://media.fb.com/2015/12/01/360-video-and-causes-on-facebook/
http://media.fb.com/2015/11/12/updates-to-360-video/
https://media.fb.com/2016/10/07/introducing-spatial-audio-for-360-videos-on-facebook/
About video: http://media.fb.com/2015/12/01/360-video-and-causes-on-facebook/
http://media.fb.com/2015/11/12/updates-to-360-video/
https://media.fb.com/2016/10/07/introducing-spatial-audio-for-360-videos-on-facebook/
2 November 2016 02:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
also:
"We're excited to roll out the ability to stream videos from Facebook to your TV — through devices like Apple TV or Google Chromecast — so you have the option to enjoy your favorite videos on a bigger screen.
Whether you’re hanging out with friends or just relaxing on the couch by yourself, we hope you enjoy this new way to watch videos on Facebook.
http://newsroom.fb.com/news/2016/10/a-new-way-to-watch-videos-from-facebook-on-your-tv/
"We're excited to roll out the ability to stream videos from Facebook to your TV — through devices like Apple TV or Google Chromecast — so you have the option to enjoy your favorite videos on a bigger screen.
Whether you’re hanging out with friends or just relaxing on the couch by yourself, we hope you enjoy this new way to watch videos on Facebook.
http://newsroom.fb.com/news/2016/10/a-new-way-to-watch-videos-from-facebook-on-your-tv/
http://newsroom.fb.com/news/2016/10/a-new-way-to-watch-videos-from-facebook-on-your-tv/
2 November 2016 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Also:
Many publishers have told us they want to be able to schedule their Facebook Live broadcasts so that people can plan to tune in.
This week we’re rolling out the ability for Verified Pages to schedule live broadcasts, starting with live videos published via the Facebook Live API.
https://media.fb.com/2016/10/18/scheduling-a-live-broadcast-via-the-live-api/
Many publishers have told us they want to be able to schedule their Facebook Live broadcasts so that people can plan to tune in.
This week we’re rolling out the ability for Verified Pages to schedule live broadcasts, starting with live videos published via the Facebook Live API.
https://media.fb.com/2016/10/18/scheduling-a-live-broadcast-via-the-live-api/
https://media.fb.com/2016/10/18/scheduling-a-live-broadcast-via-the-live-api/
2 November 2016 02:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Inspired by conversations with editors and journalists across the globe, we've created a single destination to learn about Facebook products, tools and services for use in journalistic work.
https://media.fb.com/2016/10/25/introducing-online-courses-for-journalists-on-facebook/
https://media.fb.com/2016/10/25/introducing-online-courses-for-journalists-on-facebook/
https://media.fb.com/2016/10/25/introducing-online-courses-for-journalists-on-facebook/
2 November 2016 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.facebook.com/fbmedia/
facebook.com
Facebook Media
2 November 2016 02:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tagging posts
https://www.facebook.com/policies/brandedcontent/
Here's how it works:
Verified Pages:
1. Type in the name of the third party product, brand, or sponsor featured in the post.
In any post composer you'll first need to click on the “handshake” icon before typing, and in Ads Manager and Power Editor you will see a "Sponsor" field in the Advanced Options section.
Note: Be sure to tag the correct entity, especially in cases when the third party is part of a parent product, brand, or sponsor.
2. Branded content posts will appear in News Feed with the “with” tag.
3. See insights for branded content posts as you would any other post.
Verified Profiles:
1. Click on the "handshake" icon before typing.
Begin typing the name of the marketer, and select the marketer's Page from the drop down menu. Alternatively, paste the Page URL in the typeahead to find the marketer's Page.
Note: Be sure to tag the correct entity, especially in cases when the third party is part of a parent product, brand, or sponsor.
2. Branded content posts will appear in News Feed with the “with” tag.
3. See insights for branded content posts as you would any other post.
Understanding what marketers see
Marketers that have been tagged in posts will be able to collaborate more closely with media publishers and influencers by seeing high level post metrics of reach and engagement for branded content posts they are tagged in. If the publisher or influencer boosted their post or created it as an ad, the marketer will be able to see total spend and CPM on the post.
Insights tool for verified Pages.
Insights tool for verified Profiles. Note that Reach is not available for Profiles.
Marketers can also use the “Share & Boost” button to share the post to their Page and boost it to a chosen audience. The publisher will get notified if their post is shared and boosted. The marketer does not have access to content management permissions for the publisher's post and cannot take actions like deleting and editing - these are reserved for the content publisher. Marketers must share the post to their own Page in order to boost the post.
Learn more about a marketer's role in branded content here.
Understanding the policy changes
Under the updated branded content policy and ads policy, verified media publishers and influencers (with a blue checkmark) must tag marketers in a branded content post, whether appearing on a Page or a Profile as an organic post or as an ad.
The Policy
In addition to the tagging requirement, the policy restricts some types of branded content from our platform. People have told us that branded content that is more promotional in nature is less engaging. Based on this feedback, our policy guidelines prohibit overly promotional executions, such as pre-roll advertisements, and banner ads in branded content posts. For a full list see the branded content policy. For ads content, there are no creative restrictions beyond regular ads policy.
This chart can help you quickly determine which policies to follow:
Even when they tag marketers in branded content posts, publishers and influencers remain responsible for understanding their legal obligations to indicate the commercial nature of content they post.
Policy Enforcement for Branded Content Posts
Just like all content on Facebook, branded content will go through a review process. We will be enforcing the usage of the tagging functionality, along with compliance with updated Pages terms and ads policy, for all branded content posts.
We will remove any branded content in violation of, or disapprove ads for lack of compliance with, these policies. See our Getting Started Guide for details.
https://www.facebook.com/policies/brandedcontent/
Here's how it works:
Verified Pages:
1. Type in the name of the third party product, brand, or sponsor featured in the post.
In any post composer you'll first need to click on the “handshake” icon before typing, and in Ads Manager and Power Editor you will see a "Sponsor" field in the Advanced Options section.
Note: Be sure to tag the correct entity, especially in cases when the third party is part of a parent product, brand, or sponsor.
2. Branded content posts will appear in News Feed with the “with” tag.
3. See insights for branded content posts as you would any other post.
Verified Profiles:
1. Click on the "handshake" icon before typing.
Begin typing the name of the marketer, and select the marketer's Page from the drop down menu. Alternatively, paste the Page URL in the typeahead to find the marketer's Page.
Note: Be sure to tag the correct entity, especially in cases when the third party is part of a parent product, brand, or sponsor.
2. Branded content posts will appear in News Feed with the “with” tag.
3. See insights for branded content posts as you would any other post.
Understanding what marketers see
Marketers that have been tagged in posts will be able to collaborate more closely with media publishers and influencers by seeing high level post metrics of reach and engagement for branded content posts they are tagged in. If the publisher or influencer boosted their post or created it as an ad, the marketer will be able to see total spend and CPM on the post.
Insights tool for verified Pages.
Insights tool for verified Profiles. Note that Reach is not available for Profiles.
Marketers can also use the “Share & Boost” button to share the post to their Page and boost it to a chosen audience. The publisher will get notified if their post is shared and boosted. The marketer does not have access to content management permissions for the publisher's post and cannot take actions like deleting and editing - these are reserved for the content publisher. Marketers must share the post to their own Page in order to boost the post.
Learn more about a marketer's role in branded content here.
Understanding the policy changes
Under the updated branded content policy and ads policy, verified media publishers and influencers (with a blue checkmark) must tag marketers in a branded content post, whether appearing on a Page or a Profile as an organic post or as an ad.
The Policy
In addition to the tagging requirement, the policy restricts some types of branded content from our platform. People have told us that branded content that is more promotional in nature is less engaging. Based on this feedback, our policy guidelines prohibit overly promotional executions, such as pre-roll advertisements, and banner ads in branded content posts. For a full list see the branded content policy. For ads content, there are no creative restrictions beyond regular ads policy.
This chart can help you quickly determine which policies to follow:
Even when they tag marketers in branded content posts, publishers and influencers remain responsible for understanding their legal obligations to indicate the commercial nature of content they post.
Policy Enforcement for Branded Content Posts
Just like all content on Facebook, branded content will go through a review process. We will be enforcing the usage of the tagging functionality, along with compliance with updated Pages terms and ads policy, for all branded content posts.
We will remove any branded content in violation of, or disapprove ads for lack of compliance with, these policies. See our Getting Started Guide for details.
2 November 2016 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
2 November 2016 02:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
These providers are not approved by nor affiliated with Facebook and, therefore, it is your responsibility as the developer to ensure compliance with Facebook's Advertising Guidelines even though the companies on this list have agreed to the policies as well.
If a company you wish to work with is not on this list, please direct them to the terms linked to above.
152 Media
Xaxis (24/7 Media)
4w Marketplace
Ad4Game
Adap.tv
Adconion Media Group
Addoox
AdJug
Adknowledge - (Cubics)
Admeld
Adperio
Adverline
Advert Stream
Advertising.com
Advideum.com
Alfy Video Network
Ampush
Applifier
Appnext
APP Prizes
Be On
BrightRoll
Casale Media
Clickky
Concours Mania
CPMStar
Criteo
DSNR Media Group
Ebuzzing
Emergent Payments
Engagebdr
Evonia (Affiz CPM)
Fyber
GLO Gaming
Harren Media
Hi-Media
Improve Digital
Innity
Intergi
Jun Group
Komli Media Inc.
Lifestreet Media
maudau
MediaBrix
Mediastay
myThings
NextPerformance
Nextperience
Open Inventory media
OpenX
Peanut Labs
Publicidad
PubMatic
RockYou
Rubicon Project
Selectable Media
Sharethrough
Smowtion
Social Games Ad Network - SGA
Social Game Media
Social Reality
SociaVibe
Specific Media
SpotXchange
Sticky Ads
SupersonicAds
Technorati Media
TokenAds
TradableBits Media Inc.
Tremor Video
TrialPay
Traffective
Tube Mogul
Underdog Media
Unified
Unruly Media
If a company you wish to work with is not on this list, please direct them to the terms linked to above.
152 Media
Xaxis (24/7 Media)
4w Marketplace
Ad4Game
Adap.tv
Adconion Media Group
Addoox
AdJug
Adknowledge - (Cubics)
Admeld
Adperio
Adverline
Advert Stream
Advertising.com
Advideum.com
Alfy Video Network
Ampush
Applifier
Appnext
APP Prizes
Be On
BrightRoll
Casale Media
Clickky
Concours Mania
CPMStar
Criteo
DSNR Media Group
Ebuzzing
Emergent Payments
Engagebdr
Evonia (Affiz CPM)
Fyber
GLO Gaming
Harren Media
Hi-Media
Improve Digital
Innity
Intergi
Jun Group
Komli Media Inc.
Lifestreet Media
maudau
MediaBrix
Mediastay
myThings
NextPerformance
Nextperience
Open Inventory media
OpenX
Peanut Labs
Publicidad
PubMatic
RockYou
Rubicon Project
Selectable Media
Sharethrough
Smowtion
Social Games Ad Network - SGA
Social Game Media
Social Reality
SociaVibe
Specific Media
SpotXchange
Sticky Ads
SupersonicAds
Technorati Media
TokenAds
TradableBits Media Inc.
Tremor Video
TrialPay
Traffective
Tube Mogul
Underdog Media
Unified
Unruly Media
http://advertising.com/
2 November 2016 02:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
80!
A game on Facebook.com can turn players into payers by leveraging Facebook's fast, flexible payments solution. We support over 80 payment methods including Visa, MasterCard, Paypal and mobile in more than 50 countries. With the ability to provide a price in local currency, offer recurring subscriptions and target mobile-first payers, we offer a set of payments business models to complement traditional social gaming one-time purchases that will help turn your game into long-term value for your business.
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/games/gamesonfacebook/monetization
Offerwalls
Facebook Payments enables players to earn in-app currency by completing engaging advertiser offers. By integrating this feature, developers gain access to an additional revenue channel targeted towards people who are not yet willing to pay for virtual currency.
Facebook has partnered with TrialPay to provide developers with the following implementation types:
Offerwall. This implementation enables your app to open a dialog containing an interactive list of compelling advertiser offers. Learn more about TrialPay’s offers here.
TrialPay's DealSpot. This implementation enables your app to spotlight one offer in-game. Learn more about TrialPay’s DealSpot
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/localcurrency/offers
A game on Facebook.com can turn players into payers by leveraging Facebook's fast, flexible payments solution. We support over 80 payment methods including Visa, MasterCard, Paypal and mobile in more than 50 countries. With the ability to provide a price in local currency, offer recurring subscriptions and target mobile-first payers, we offer a set of payments business models to complement traditional social gaming one-time purchases that will help turn your game into long-term value for your business.
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/games/gamesonfacebook/monetization
Offerwalls
Facebook Payments enables players to earn in-app currency by completing engaging advertiser offers. By integrating this feature, developers gain access to an additional revenue channel targeted towards people who are not yet willing to pay for virtual currency.
Facebook has partnered with TrialPay to provide developers with the following implementation types:
Offerwall. This implementation enables your app to open a dialog containing an interactive list of compelling advertiser offers. Learn more about TrialPay’s offers here.
TrialPay's DealSpot. This implementation enables your app to spotlight one offer in-game. Learn more about TrialPay’s DealSpot
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/localcurrency/offers
http://facebook.com/
2 November 2016 02:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Facebook offers free hosting for games with the following restrictions:
Total size of a single uploaded zip may not exceed 200MB.
We may consider hosting up to 500 MB on a case-by-case basis.
For more information on Facebook Hosting, you may take a look at the documentation.
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/games/services/contenthosting
Total size of a single uploaded zip may not exceed 200MB.
We may consider hosting up to 500 MB on a case-by-case basis.
For more information on Facebook Hosting, you may take a look at the documentation.
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/games/services/contenthosting
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/games/services/contenthosting
2 November 2016 02:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Develoer videos:
https://www.facebook.com/FacebookforDevelopers/videos/10154078798288553/
https://www.facebook.com/FacebookforDevelopers/videos/10154078798288553/
2 November 2016 02:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Welcome to one of the world’s largest creative communities -- and the number one game development platform. Unity gives you everything you need to realize your creative vision fast, and move ahead.
https://unity3d.com/
https://unity3d.com/
https://unity3d.com/
2 November 2016 02:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
FAQ
How does a game run on the Gameroom client? Is it a standalone .exe, HTML5 or Flash content hosted on a server?
All of the above. The Gameroom client supports many different formats:
HTML5 or Flash content that is hosted on your game server
Standalone Windows .exe that is zipped and hosted on Facebook's hosting (which we term as Gameroom native)
Unity WebGL that is zipped and hosted on Facebook's hosting.
Permalink
Is Facebook SDK for Unity required?
If it’s a native Windows game, then the Facebook Unity SDK is required since we don’t support any other engines now. (We plan to do so in the future)
If you already use the Facebook Unity SDK for mobile games, you need to update the SDK to have Facebook Gameroom support. However, to get both mobile and Gameroom integration, you will need to configure your game manually, see sections 4-6 for details.
Permalink
Will Facebook Gameroom support Mac and Linux in the future?
Mac and Linux platforms are currently not on our immediate roadmap, but we will consider it based on player demand.
Permalink
Are there any Unity games that have integrated with the platform and what level of effort did it take?
Currently, we have 30+ Windows-native games on Gameroom and many more in the pipeline:
Sandstorm Pirate Wars
Empires And Allies
Critical Ops
Oz: Broken Kingdoms
Might and Mayhem
Path of War
Pirate Kings
Cooking Adventure
Battle of Gods
My Konami Slots
Developers have gave us feedback that it was an easy integration, with efforts ranging from 1-2 weeks, and with resources varying from 1-2 engineers.
Permalink
Does the Gameroom installation process install any .NET framework?
No, the Gameroom installation process does not install any .NET framework, although the client targets the .NET 4.0 Client Profile, which is part of the automatic updates for Windows 7.
Permalink
How do we port an existing game in portrait mode, to run in landscape in Gameroom?
You will need to take a look at Unity's documentation on screen orientation here: https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Screen-orientation.html
Permalink
We are using Unity IAP to implement payments. Does it support the Facebook Gameroom platform?
Currently, there is no Facebook Gameroom payment support in Unity IAP. You will have to refer to the payments section above to implement Facebook IAP via the Unity SDK. However, in an upcoming version of Unity, we plan to support Facebook IAP within Unity IAP.
Permalink
For showing advertisements within our game, do we have to use the Audience Network SDK?
No, you do not have to use the SDK. Currently the Audience Network SDK only supports mobile platforms. In the future, we have plans to support the desktop platform.
Permalink
How can I show a progress indicator while a triggered Facebook dialog is loading?
Before calling a Facebook dialog (e.g. Login, Sharing, API, Payments, etc), you can start showing your progress indicator. Once the Facebook callback is completed, you can hide your progress indicator.
// show your progress indicator
FB.ShareLink(
new Uri("https://developers.facebook.com/"),
callback: ShareCallback
);
private void ShareCallback (IShareResult result) {
// hide your progress indicator
}
Permalink
How do I exit my game and return to the Gameroom homepage?
You may call Application.Quit(0) to return to the Gameroom homepage.
Permalink
I am unable to download the Facebook Gameroom client via the installer. Is there an alternate way to obtain the client?
You may download the client directly from https://www.facebook.com/games/desktopapp/download_latest_installer
Permalink
How does a game run on the Gameroom client? Is it a standalone .exe, HTML5 or Flash content hosted on a server?
All of the above. The Gameroom client supports many different formats:
HTML5 or Flash content that is hosted on your game server
Standalone Windows .exe that is zipped and hosted on Facebook's hosting (which we term as Gameroom native)
Unity WebGL that is zipped and hosted on Facebook's hosting.
Permalink
Is Facebook SDK for Unity required?
If it’s a native Windows game, then the Facebook Unity SDK is required since we don’t support any other engines now. (We plan to do so in the future)
If you already use the Facebook Unity SDK for mobile games, you need to update the SDK to have Facebook Gameroom support. However, to get both mobile and Gameroom integration, you will need to configure your game manually, see sections 4-6 for details.
Permalink
Will Facebook Gameroom support Mac and Linux in the future?
Mac and Linux platforms are currently not on our immediate roadmap, but we will consider it based on player demand.
Permalink
Are there any Unity games that have integrated with the platform and what level of effort did it take?
Currently, we have 30+ Windows-native games on Gameroom and many more in the pipeline:
Sandstorm Pirate Wars
Empires And Allies
Critical Ops
Oz: Broken Kingdoms
Might and Mayhem
Path of War
Pirate Kings
Cooking Adventure
Battle of Gods
My Konami Slots
Developers have gave us feedback that it was an easy integration, with efforts ranging from 1-2 weeks, and with resources varying from 1-2 engineers.
Permalink
Does the Gameroom installation process install any .NET framework?
No, the Gameroom installation process does not install any .NET framework, although the client targets the .NET 4.0 Client Profile, which is part of the automatic updates for Windows 7.
Permalink
How do we port an existing game in portrait mode, to run in landscape in Gameroom?
You will need to take a look at Unity's documentation on screen orientation here: https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Screen-orientation.html
Permalink
We are using Unity IAP to implement payments. Does it support the Facebook Gameroom platform?
Currently, there is no Facebook Gameroom payment support in Unity IAP. You will have to refer to the payments section above to implement Facebook IAP via the Unity SDK. However, in an upcoming version of Unity, we plan to support Facebook IAP within Unity IAP.
Permalink
For showing advertisements within our game, do we have to use the Audience Network SDK?
No, you do not have to use the SDK. Currently the Audience Network SDK only supports mobile platforms. In the future, we have plans to support the desktop platform.
Permalink
How can I show a progress indicator while a triggered Facebook dialog is loading?
Before calling a Facebook dialog (e.g. Login, Sharing, API, Payments, etc), you can start showing your progress indicator. Once the Facebook callback is completed, you can hide your progress indicator.
// show your progress indicator
FB.ShareLink(
new Uri("https://developers.facebook.com/"),
callback: ShareCallback
);
private void ShareCallback (IShareResult result) {
// hide your progress indicator
}
Permalink
How do I exit my game and return to the Gameroom homepage?
You may call Application.Quit(0) to return to the Gameroom homepage.
Permalink
I am unable to download the Facebook Gameroom client via the installer. Is there an alternate way to obtain the client?
You may download the client directly from https://www.facebook.com/games/desktopapp/download_latest_installer
Permalink
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Screen-orientation.html
2 November 2016 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Facebook Gameroom for PC gaming focuses on gameplay for players, ensuring an exclusive and immersive gaming experience
Developing in Facebook Gameroom natively takes less time: it's easier compared to HTML5 and gives better solutions around threading, debugging, networking and memory management
Facebook Gameroom provides better performance in terms of app launch timings and memory consumption in native games.
Best Practices
Continue the player's progress on different platforms. (e.g. mobile, Facebook.com and Gameroom)
Maximise graphics area in the Gameroom client.
Allow player to choose between low, medium and high quality graphics.
Keep the loading time to less than 10s.
Keep your zip bundle within 50 MB.
Skippable and replayable tutorial with easy learning curve.
Configure all required Permissions under App Center.
Upload all creative assets in App Center.
Promote your Gameroom page from your FB Page and Website.
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/games/gameroom
Facebook Gameroom for PC gaming focuses on gameplay for players, ensuring an exclusive and immersive gaming experience
Developing in Facebook Gameroom natively takes less time: it's easier compared to HTML5 and gives better solutions around threading, debugging, networking and memory management
Facebook Gameroom provides better performance in terms of app launch timings and memory consumption in native games.
Best Practices
Continue the player's progress on different platforms. (e.g. mobile, Facebook.com and Gameroom)
Maximise graphics area in the Gameroom client.
Allow player to choose between low, medium and high quality graphics.
Keep the loading time to less than 10s.
Keep your zip bundle within 50 MB.
Skippable and replayable tutorial with easy learning curve.
Configure all required Permissions under App Center.
Upload all creative assets in App Center.
Promote your Gameroom page from your FB Page and Website.
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/games/gameroom
http://facebook.com/
2 November 2016 02:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.facebook.com/gameroom/
https://www.gameroom.com/
https://www.gameroom.com/
2 November 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Kenneth_Keller
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Kenneth_Keller
2 November 2016 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on Russell Kirkby's post.
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mentalfloss.com/article/53178/first-woman-earn-phd-computer-science-was-nun
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2 November 2016 01:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNXJ818ktAU&list=PLDMXQ1VQ1re-Y_AzsKUk-1DK2K065O_Da
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNXJ818ktAU&list=PLDMXQ1VQ1re-Y_AzsKUk-1DK2K065O_Da
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNXJ818ktAU&list=PLDMXQ1VQ1re-Y_AzsKUk-1DK2K065O_Da
2 November 2016 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCfK5zGGqh0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCfK5zGGqh0
2 November 2016 00:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Paar muud filmi ka lisaks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7A7VDW82kI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7A7VDW82kI
2 November 2016 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M326M7bMyAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M326M7bMyAY
2 November 2016 00:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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2 November 2016 00:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xPQVX8d6DA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xPQVX8d6DA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xPQVX8d6DA
2 November 2016 00:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
veidrust ka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybCqVpsTZSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybCqVpsTZSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybCqVpsTZSE
2 November 2016 00:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQPQLbMO-Z0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQPQLbMO-Z0
2 November 2016 00:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kus see Tuvi teab kuhusee kiri viia..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHOzqkEIJgo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHOzqkEIJgo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHOzqkEIJgo
2 November 2016 00:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XWpuNXnsSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XWpuNXnsSs
2 November 2016 00:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNZ7vvG1MPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNZ7vvG1MPM
2 November 2016 00:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Eencyk6YMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Eencyk6YMo
2 November 2016 00:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XauNENuX0Rs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XauNENuX0Rs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XauNENuX0Rs
2 November 2016 00:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ySLQ8-sOWY&list=PL5ubs36MRe_6-2_fum--qyo1yfRelFK2D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ySLQ8-sOWY&list=PL5ubs36MRe_6-2_fum--qyo1yfRelFK2D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ySLQ8-sOWY&list=PL5ubs36MRe_6-2_fum--qyo1yfRelFK2D
2 November 2016 00:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMFvOMlgmzQ&list=PLaFIoVo80CoyyhkSjw9TiPnyquMJ_yrrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMFvOMlgmzQ&list=PLaFIoVo80CoyyhkSjw9TiPnyquMJ_yrrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMFvOMlgmzQ&list=PLaFIoVo80CoyyhkSjw9TiPnyquMJ_yrrw
2 November 2016 00:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ySLQ8-sOWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ySLQ8-sOWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ySLQ8-sOWY
2 November 2016 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
KaameraTaga:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODIrZQ10rWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODIrZQ10rWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODIrZQ10rWQ
2 November 2016 00:26
Margus Meigo replied to Maritta Matsalu's comment.
mitte xoxoxo?
2 November 2016 00:19
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
kutil oli puhast ülikonda vaja ju, ega siis meest hätta saa jätta :p
2 November 2016 00:05
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Ei ta kollitanud midagi, pigem mina neid külastasin
2 November 2016 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as hard core "right" ist,
is hard to explain to me, on spiritual and earthly level, short clear way, why Hillary is one of the most impotent savers of the world for our time
with out insulting all sides proper so that in the end of sentence no side will want to support the statement..
is hard to explain to me, on spiritual and earthly level, short clear way, why Hillary is one of the most impotent savers of the world for our time
with out insulting all sides proper so that in the end of sentence no side will want to support the statement..
1 November 2016 00:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But yea, we got to use our magic,
to turn communist minded brainwashed minds back to real life,
and originally Republicans should be the ones who do it (who do good, stand for values), as from Estonia point of view, but in USA it is upside down in so many levels,
in your place, the Republicans are communists (or capitalist-communist, same thing) and even on red colors.. strange world
this is my aria of what i have been visualizing but have not got a words jet.. basically someones, have mixed and made so many different directions in all lands that they can, but they all seem to obey similar simple codes.. the opponents..
entire left vs right (and right is actually good!) scale is retarded and made by our controllers, our point of view it is greek-roman aka communist or if someone wants, call it a fascists.
The system of left vs right is made so, that good have to keep bad alive, so bad can attack them... that you must treat wrong as equal.. and this is evil designing.. most likely.
if am would calm down with few people would find words to write it all down proper i think, with few drawings to back it up
to turn communist minded brainwashed minds back to real life,
and originally Republicans should be the ones who do it (who do good, stand for values), as from Estonia point of view, but in USA it is upside down in so many levels,
in your place, the Republicans are communists (or capitalist-communist, same thing) and even on red colors.. strange world
this is my aria of what i have been visualizing but have not got a words jet.. basically someones, have mixed and made so many different directions in all lands that they can, but they all seem to obey similar simple codes.. the opponents..
entire left vs right (and right is actually good!) scale is retarded and made by our controllers, our point of view it is greek-roman aka communist or if someone wants, call it a fascists.
The system of left vs right is made so, that good have to keep bad alive, so bad can attack them... that you must treat wrong as equal.. and this is evil designing.. most likely.
if am would calm down with few people would find words to write it all down proper i think, with few drawings to back it up
1 November 2016 00:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
what can You to, when Patriarchy does not want to fail .. fall..and well.. things actually go deep with it... but in the end, it is spiritually two main forces, that can be looked as opponents,
The Natural Godly Matriarchy and the Mechanical Dark Patriarchy
(last one is from Greek-Roman ages, dark magic side, when pederasty was part of official high class, and these same ones still run the Russia,and in hard try, also all the other lands who got pentagrams on their flags and symbols from eagles to ... well, perhaps yes, perhaps that Russia got Same logo for state as most murderous Roman Empire elite force logo that was worshiped almost above all....)
(the first one is from Nature wizard side, pure shamans of plants and real Christianity and Hebrews focused on Old Testament and Women Wisdom (Proverbs 8:24+) and honest spiritual enlightenment, Also Estonia )
The Natural Godly Matriarchy and the Mechanical Dark Patriarchy
(last one is from Greek-Roman ages, dark magic side, when pederasty was part of official high class, and these same ones still run the Russia,and in hard try, also all the other lands who got pentagrams on their flags and symbols from eagles to ... well, perhaps yes, perhaps that Russia got Same logo for state as most murderous Roman Empire elite force logo that was worshiped almost above all....)
(the first one is from Nature wizard side, pure shamans of plants and real Christianity and Hebrews focused on Old Testament and Women Wisdom (Proverbs 8:24+) and honest spiritual enlightenment, Also Estonia )
1 November 2016 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on John Atherton's post.
WIkielaks-Assange and Snowdan, yes they are used against good, and their ideology is attacked..
But we must save them, turn their head alright.. as they are media what we need, and for me... the Clinton emails, looks almost so good that i would think She her self helped for it or God, as it shows Her extreme hard time consuming work, in so many sectors,
this gives me peace knowing, that she knows what she is doing
But we must save them, turn their head alright.. as they are media what we need, and for me... the Clinton emails, looks almost so good that i would think She her self helped for it or God, as it shows Her extreme hard time consuming work, in so many sectors,
this gives me peace knowing, that she knows what she is doing
1 November 2016 00:31
Margus Meigo replied to Len Wms-Carver's comment.
we cant escape.. we must take action to a FB people and to video proofs, screen shoots to media
1 November 2016 00:28
Margus Meigo commented on John Atherton's photo.
No we should NOT find alternative media, we should find the way to make this one better here, as it is the best still
1 November 2016 00:27
Margus Meigo replied to John Atherton's comment.
Group: Activist ★ Democrats
We can clearly see, that Blue is Good, and Red is Bad,
as we have used to see in past soviet blocks.1 November 2016 00:22
Margus Meigo replied to John Atherton's comment.
Group: Activist ★ Democrats
still, complicated to think at first, how does this graph work1 November 2016 00:21
Margus Meigo replied to John Atherton's comment.
Group: Activist ★ Democrats
Graph seems clear1 November 2016 00:20
Margus Meigo replied to Justiina Velner's comment.
Come out from this silly "i do not like one or another" and make your choice, explain it why
And examples i bring, are appropriate, energy level,
bust be under pentagram not to see it,
hold a bible and You can see more easy, who is out of two is more human like,
You even have ON AUDIO hinm explaining, from what kind of mindset people he is from and how they look slave people and women, and You are still confused between Hillary and this what Trump represents ??
And examples i bring, are appropriate, energy level,
bust be under pentagram not to see it,
hold a bible and You can see more easy, who is out of two is more human like,
You even have ON AUDIO hinm explaining, from what kind of mindset people he is from and how they look slave people and women, and You are still confused between Hillary and this what Trump represents ??
30 October 2016 16:12
Margus Meigo replied to Justiina Velner's comment.
Or who side you choose, out of two O NLY options You have,
women side energetically or the side of homos and roman war man, who implemented The System and slavery in here, and who will be eliminated sooner or a bit later, for sure.
You want to choose side of Death and rape or Love and Life ?
women side energetically or the side of homos and roman war man, who implemented The System and slavery in here, and who will be eliminated sooner or a bit later, for sure.
You want to choose side of Death and rape or Love and Life ?
30 October 2016 16:10
Margus Meigo replied to Justiina Velner's comment.
Correction in English, Donald Trump is a male, so it is "He" not "she"
30 October 2016 16:08
Margus Meigo commented on Martina Hoffmann's post.
Lucky are Souls who are able to experience these revolutions and Your kinds in person
30 October 2016 10:53
Margus Meigo commented on Martina Hoffmann's post.
If that would be only possible for me, to Arrive places as that,
but takes years perhaps, at minimum..
(just arrived back fro ma streets)
but takes years perhaps, at minimum..
(just arrived back fro ma streets)
30 October 2016 10:38
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
:(
30 October 2016 10:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// Miks nad ei võiks kohe alguses, oma pikkade seletuste juures,öelda, et Kurat ja Saatan on erinevad jõud,
Kurat on Jumala tööline, Jumala Sulane,
Saatan on kurjus keda kehastab IDEAALSELT 1:1 Kaval-Ants,
või kes soovib võtta siis pehememat, vähem müstilisemat seisukohta, siis Kurat inglina tuli maapeale, ja siin olles kurjuse olemus nagu mahajäetud nahk (mis - KavalAnts- ei olnud enam tema), tegi tema elu siin võimatuks,
isegi temal, suure rammu ja tarkuse juures, oli temal võimatu Saatana rattast pääseda, rääkimata siis veel inimeste raskusest kes selle kõigega hakkama pidi saama.
Nagu Looja alguses ütles "Hingi pole enam..."
Järelikult hinged mis hukkas, need ei läinud ei jumalale ega Kuradile. ... kuhu nad hävisid, ... hävisid läbi uuema Saatana versiooni (KavalAntsu)
kes meilt maa ja vabaduse võtta üritab, need Va lipsumehed.
Kurat on Jumala tööline, Jumala Sulane,
Saatan on kurjus keda kehastab IDEAALSELT 1:1 Kaval-Ants,
või kes soovib võtta siis pehememat, vähem müstilisemat seisukohta, siis Kurat inglina tuli maapeale, ja siin olles kurjuse olemus nagu mahajäetud nahk (mis - KavalAnts- ei olnud enam tema), tegi tema elu siin võimatuks,
isegi temal, suure rammu ja tarkuse juures, oli temal võimatu Saatana rattast pääseda, rääkimata siis veel inimeste raskusest kes selle kõigega hakkama pidi saama.
Nagu Looja alguses ütles "Hingi pole enam..."
Järelikult hinged mis hukkas, need ei läinud ei jumalale ega Kuradile. ... kuhu nad hävisid, ... hävisid läbi uuema Saatana versiooni (KavalAntsu)
kes meilt maa ja vabaduse võtta üritab, need Va lipsumehed.
29 October 2016 22:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Greetings from the Hermit clans yo!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermit
29 October 2016 20:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
even people like that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cWsv9of3mg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cWsv9of3mg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cWsv9of3mg
29 October 2016 20:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ironic, that Taro and Wiches have more heart and sense, and truth, then the mainstream megachurches
29 October 2016 20:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Am not sure what to be shocked about
29 October 2016 20:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Tapeet oli alguses plaanitud panna ajutise,t et siis lapsega koos korralikult panna... Kuid nagu ütledakse ajutised ajsad jäävad kõige kauemaks
29 October 2016 19:45
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
eg like depressive emo's socks soaked in psychedelic for turning On... but still depressed out of life
// because of gender issues willing not to accept,
that : No Jack, You can not have a REAL utters, You are another sub-species, called man, accept it
" No ! "
// because of gender issues willing not to accept,
that : No Jack, You can not have a REAL utters, You are another sub-species, called man, accept it
" No ! "
29 October 2016 19:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
She is Good
29 October 2016 18:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
Not because She got inside..
Just to make us free from Patriarchy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fuui9qICYg
Not because She got inside..
Just to make us free from Patriarchy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fuui9qICYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fuui9qICYg
29 October 2016 18:52
Margus Meigo commented on Eat Static's photo.
Hillary Will make files open if there is some, for sure.. .
Unless Trump man will assassinate or exchange her for clone..
www.nytimes.com/2016/05/11/us/politics/hillary-clinton-aliens.html
Unless Trump man will assassinate or exchange her for clone..
www.nytimes.com/2016/05/11/us/politics/hillary-clinton-aliens.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/11/us/politics/hillary-clinton-aliens.html
29 October 2016 18:51
Margus Meigo replied to Brian Revell's comment.
Hillary saving us from the Camps actually
29 October 2016 18:49
Margus Meigo commented on Heiki Herman Soome's post.
Group: Ellujäämine = lahkumine Euroliidust
Käisin seda ideed neil selles mosees siin ammu rääkimas ka, kuid aktsioon põhiline jäi tegemata päris plaani osas.. eks kui keegi siin lugejatest päriselt huvitatud on seda asja eestlaste enda kätte suunama (mis peaks olema võimatu, aga on võimalus...) siis antke teada, võtke ühendust
sellist ura, et meile ei meeldi ja me ei luba, sellega ei jõua kuskile ja see keeld saab olema võimatu, vahe on selles islami oksa kaudu me mosee juhtimise siin organiseerime, kas austavata müstilise tõsiusklike, vallutajate, ärikate, kommunislike islmaistidega või kellega..28 October 2016 19:21
Margus Meigo commented on Heiki Herman Soome's post.
Group: Ellujäämine = lahkumine Euroliidust
ja peab olema puidust, ilusamaid maapeal, mis puidust kunagi tehtud, ka sellepärast, et kui vaja saab tule otsa panna kuid ka sellepärast, et meie maad austada, puidu osas, ning mitte kivist mürakaid siia kokku ajada28 October 2016 19:20
Margus Meigo commented on Heiki Herman Soome's post.
Group: Ellujäämine = lahkumine Euroliidust
mul mitmeid aastatid tagasi juba idee, et Eestisse vaja mosee teha, kuid vaja meil endal seda teha, kui tahame kontrolli oma maal hoida28 October 2016 19:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Ellujäämine = lahkumine Euroliidust
ülemiste taga praegune hoone neil28 October 2016 19:18
Margus Meigo commented on Heiki Herman Soome's post.
Group: Ellujäämine = lahkumine Euroliidust
Ma Eesti mosees ammu käinud28 October 2016 19:18
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Okey, i got it,
Death in Color and in Monocolor ?
Death in Color and in Monocolor ?
28 October 2016 18:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but i do wonder often "what do they think when them paint the eyes"
just not sure about it,.. have this feeling, that them really do think something ... something.... and i would want to know it to clear a picture
just not sure about it,.. have this feeling, that them really do think something ... something.... and i would want to know it to clear a picture
28 October 2016 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
And how is he fitting to a picture :D
Your humor is strong.
Your humor is strong.
28 October 2016 18:26
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
jep Darious let's like that
28 October 2016 17:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jah, Eliot and Elliott, yeah that would be amazing failure to confuse these two, when explaining someone your lyrical preferences.
haha, Poem line by Line:
"The reason dust is so scary is because that's exactly what you're going to turn into some day, but you should probably try not to think about it too much"
Really
http://www.shmoop.com/the-waste-land/burial-dead-summary.html
Ellese Elliott
haha, Poem line by Line:
"The reason dust is so scary is because that's exactly what you're going to turn into some day, but you should probably try not to think about it too much"
Really
http://www.shmoop.com/the-waste-land/burial-dead-summary.html
Ellese Elliott
http://www.shmoop.com/the-waste-land/burial-dead-summary.html
28 October 2016 17:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Refresh
28 October 2016 17:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Woner if Elliott and Joey would make spiritual gospel, how would that sound
28 October 2016 17:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Do You need cold class of water?
https://youtu.be/cjIvu7e6Wq8?t=76 1m 16s
https://youtu.be/cjIvu7e6Wq8?t=76 1m 16s
https://youtu.be/cjIvu7e6Wq8?t=76
28 October 2016 17:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Think it over no need to overthink
28 October 2016 17:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Here is specially educated one, i kind of can bear the Intro, but wonder, where is rest of the skills what he brags about 2-3 minutes what he is like and what is about to say and do, wonder where is this file,
--
[Intro]
Mother, mothersucker, yeah, oh, this is what you want, huh?
Microphone checker, yo, yo, yo
[Verse]
Uh, motherfuckin' microphone checker
Keep that grip tight, like my Smith & Wesson
Ike with the mic, which nigga tryna turn up?
Hit you with the hurtful fuckin' truth like Sojourner
Motherfuckin' microphone eater
Spittin' hot shit, hit ya dome with the heater
Wouldn't want to be ya, dish lyrical fajitas
Got dragon balls like my name was Vegeta
Motherfuckin' super duper swankin'
Niggas still hatin', pigs want him for the bacon
Take 'em to the slaughterhouse, say we 'bout to order out
Tell 'em we the badass motherfuckers that they heard about
Yes, I guess the word is out, we comin' for the top dollar
Top rottweiler, since I popped my collar
Niggas say they hit us, they ain't ever shot nada
Me? I'd rather not snitch up on my own problems
Cause I'm a microphone killer
Especially when my head is gone off the liquor
Specially educated, heavily medicated
Give me that beat and I'll put you next to Dilla (My nigga)
Flow sweeter than vanilla
Tell these haters beat it, can't Jackson thriller
I'm the nigga that you see when you're in the mirror
Say my name five times, this what I deliver
[Hook]
This a motherfuckin' nuke that I'm droppin'
The world in my pocket, kick you out your continent
Always drop hot shit, Toroidal Flow keep constant
And I won't stop 'til I reach Christ Conscious, nigga
[Bridge]
Which one of y'all niggas really want it with me?
None of y'all niggas, fuck outta here
Beast coast, nigga, Pro Era in your area
[Hook]
This a motherfuckin' nuke that I'm droppin'
The world in my pocket, kick you out your continent
Always drop hot shit, Toroidal Flow keep constant
And I won't stop 'til I reach Christ Conscious, nigga
[Outro]
Niggas know, niggas, niggas, niggas know
https://youtu.be/f3PJF0YE-x4?t=180 Minute 3
--
[Intro]
Mother, mothersucker, yeah, oh, this is what you want, huh?
Microphone checker, yo, yo, yo
[Verse]
Uh, motherfuckin' microphone checker
Keep that grip tight, like my Smith & Wesson
Ike with the mic, which nigga tryna turn up?
Hit you with the hurtful fuckin' truth like Sojourner
Motherfuckin' microphone eater
Spittin' hot shit, hit ya dome with the heater
Wouldn't want to be ya, dish lyrical fajitas
Got dragon balls like my name was Vegeta
Motherfuckin' super duper swankin'
Niggas still hatin', pigs want him for the bacon
Take 'em to the slaughterhouse, say we 'bout to order out
Tell 'em we the badass motherfuckers that they heard about
Yes, I guess the word is out, we comin' for the top dollar
Top rottweiler, since I popped my collar
Niggas say they hit us, they ain't ever shot nada
Me? I'd rather not snitch up on my own problems
Cause I'm a microphone killer
Especially when my head is gone off the liquor
Specially educated, heavily medicated
Give me that beat and I'll put you next to Dilla (My nigga)
Flow sweeter than vanilla
Tell these haters beat it, can't Jackson thriller
I'm the nigga that you see when you're in the mirror
Say my name five times, this what I deliver
[Hook]
This a motherfuckin' nuke that I'm droppin'
The world in my pocket, kick you out your continent
Always drop hot shit, Toroidal Flow keep constant
And I won't stop 'til I reach Christ Conscious, nigga
[Bridge]
Which one of y'all niggas really want it with me?
None of y'all niggas, fuck outta here
Beast coast, nigga, Pro Era in your area
[Hook]
This a motherfuckin' nuke that I'm droppin'
The world in my pocket, kick you out your continent
Always drop hot shit, Toroidal Flow keep constant
And I won't stop 'til I reach Christ Conscious, nigga
[Outro]
Niggas know, niggas, niggas, niggas know
https://youtu.be/f3PJF0YE-x4?t=180 Minute 3
https://youtu.be/f3PJF0YE-x4?t=180
28 October 2016 17:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but yea spitting relgious vibes is good,
28 October 2016 17:17
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Okey he really is in to Neurotechnology (Specially Educated, i can see from the video, ) but i still have not figured out, why people carry random numbers on their shirts that have no nice batters or pictures, just mono colors lines and shapes , ... just can not get it, someone who smokes weed and takes drugs, how come these chemicals has no effect ,
tripping in to space with shirts like that..
If they can afford to make music video why can not they afford to have friends with some sense of beauty that is appropriate for man
tripping in to space with shirts like that..
If they can afford to make music video why can not they afford to have friends with some sense of beauty that is appropriate for man
28 October 2016 17:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tammsaare õe Martha Hansen
"Saade Anton Hansen Tammsaarest. Tr.14 - Katkend A. H. Tammsaare esseest "Ilu meel ja luule armastatu" - esitab Helend Peep. Tr.15 - "Nutva tamme laul" - A. H. Tammsaare õe Martha Hanseni esituses. Tr.16 - Katkend romaani "Tõde ja õigus" I osast - esitab Helend Peep. Tr.17-18 - Tammsaare perekonnatraditsioonidest pärinev rahvalaul (ringmäng) koos Martha Hanseni kommentaaride ja vestlusega esitusolustikust. Küsitleja Ingrid Rüütel. Kreutzwaldi-nim. Kirjandusmuuseumi fondidest tehtud montaaž. Seade Ingrid Rüütel ja Helene Siimisker. Materjal saadud Tallinna Heliplaadistuudiost."
Sirje Hansen
https://arhiiv.err.ee/vaata/15095
"Saade Anton Hansen Tammsaarest. Tr.14 - Katkend A. H. Tammsaare esseest "Ilu meel ja luule armastatu" - esitab Helend Peep. Tr.15 - "Nutva tamme laul" - A. H. Tammsaare õe Martha Hanseni esituses. Tr.16 - Katkend romaani "Tõde ja õigus" I osast - esitab Helend Peep. Tr.17-18 - Tammsaare perekonnatraditsioonidest pärinev rahvalaul (ringmäng) koos Martha Hanseni kommentaaride ja vestlusega esitusolustikust. Küsitleja Ingrid Rüütel. Kreutzwaldi-nim. Kirjandusmuuseumi fondidest tehtud montaaž. Seade Ingrid Rüütel ja Helene Siimisker. Materjal saadud Tallinna Heliplaadistuudiost."
Sirje Hansen
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28 October 2016 16:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muuseas võib siia juurde lisada ka selle: http://www.sirp.ee/s1-artiklid/c9-sotsiaalia/mis-on-rahvusulene-ajalugu/
http://www.sirp.ee/s1-artiklid/c9-sotsiaalia/mis-on-rahvusulene-ajalugu/
28 October 2016 16:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Narr kui tõerääkija
Vaino on oma uurimuses kasutanud varasemate uurijate väärt tähelepanekuid: lähimineviku tekstitundlikumate kriitikute Endel Nirgi, Elem Treieri, Toomas Liivi ja Toomas Haugi kohalolu on tuntav. Neilt on laenatud ka mõningaid häid mõisteid, nt Liivilt telg ja teljestama. Vaino on nende mõtteid edasi arendanud või avastanud Tammsaare teostest hoopis uusi tähenduskihte, seoseid ja paralleele, prototüüpegi. Nii on huvitav lugeda, kuidas kirjaniku suur muusikaarmastus ja katkijäänud viiulimäng on leidnud tee tema teostesse, teisenenud „elutunnetuslikuks manifestatsiooniks“ (lk 140). Muusikamotiivi abil on püüdnud kirjanik jõuda lähemale inimese keeleülesele mõtlemisele ning anda edasi tegelase meeleolu. „Varjundite“ kõrvaltegelase Anton Petrovitši sõnul – Vaino tunneb temas ära kirjaniku kõrvaliste eest varjatud alter ego – saab inimene muusika kaudu tunnetada osadust kosmilise ja igavikulisega (lk 125).
Intrigeeriv on narri tüüpi tegelaste käsitlus. Teraselt on välja toodud rida veidi „hulle“ või lihtsameelseid, veiderdavaid ja provotseerivaid tegelasi, kes seavad kahtluse alla maailmas kehtivad „targad“ reeglid (lk 181) ja „paiskavad segi ratsionaalsete tegelaste maailmapildi“ (lk 185). Need on Narr näidendis „Kuningal on külm“, samuti Karin, Jürka, Pearu ja Maurus, kes päästavad oma vastastegelase „kontrollitud pealispinna alt valla tema tõelise olemuse“ (lk 182), seavad valitsevad normid kahtluse alla, osutudes oma näilise mõistmatuse kilbi taga tegelikult tõerääkijateks.
Alaosas „Lunastuse ilmumine. Neitsilikud tegelaskujud“ selgub, et Tammsaare naiskarakterid mõjuvad meestele ilmutuslikult ning toovad nad välja „karile jooksnud intellektualismist“ (Vladimir Macura). Nad peavad Goethe „Faustist“ laenatud Das Ewig-Weibliche ideaali kohaselt „tõmbama“ inimest ülespoole (lk 158). Sellised tegelased on Vaino arvates näiteks Krõõt, Ramilda ja Tiina. Neid ja ka narri tüüpi Karinit iseloomustab teistsugune, mehe omast erinev tarkus. „Näib, nagu kõneleks nende kaudu nn. kosmiline tarkus, mis ei lähtu niivõrd teadmistest ja mõistusest, vaid pigem intuitsioonist ja tunnetusest“ (lk 159). Vaino toob paralleeli Dostojevskiga, kellel on samuti „targa südamega“ tegelaseks sagedamini naine. Tammsaare naisekujud põhjustavad meestegelastes murranguid, panevad nad sisemiselt mässama ning tõukavad uude arenguetappi või elutsüklisse.2
Vaino interpretatsioonis näikse Tammsaare niisiis tõestavat teesi elu ja inimese irratsionaalsusest, milleni ta jõudis mõistuse jõuetust tunnistades. Üksnes ratsionaalsuse kultiveerimine viib inimese masinastumiseni. „Masinateriigis on inimene aina väiksemaks muutunud, ta on iseenese kaotanud,“ kurtis Tammsaare artiklis „Lunastus“.3 Teisalt nägi kirjanik inimest loomalike tungide meelevallas siplemas. Loodus valitseb inimese sammude üle nagu muistne moira – saatus – ka vastu tema paremat tahtmist, märkis Eduard Laamangi „Tõde ja õigust“ arvustades (vt lk 142). Vaevalt aga tähendab Tammsaare skeptitsism mõistuse ja ratsionaalsuse suhtes seda, et ta õigustas tungidele järeleandmist. Ihadekultuuri pärast on ta südant valutanud mitmeski kirjatükis, nt „Inimese kultuurist“.4 Kas ei lootnud kirjanik siiski, et inimene õpib oma madalaid tunge ja loomuomadusi (ahnus, edevus, võimujanu, upsakus jne) valitsema, sest see on ainus viis sõdade ja muude jõhkruste lõppemiseks?
Tammsaare kirjutas ajal, mil õhtumaises metafüüsikas valitses vaimu-keha dualism: Platonist peale on meelte ja tunnete sfääri ehk irratsionaalset seostatud just kehaga. Platon jt uskusid, et tõelise teadmise poole püüdlemisel peab jumalik ratsionaalne hing valitsema orjaliku sureliku keha üle. Tänapäeval käsitletakse inimest enamasti tervikuna ja moodsas kirjanduses on aina vähem tegemist elu ja inimese transtsendentse mõõtmega – asjaolu, mis kirjandust pigem vaesestab kui rikastab.
1 Maarja Vaino kaitses doktoritöö „Irratsionaalsuse poeetika A. H. Tammsaare loomingus“ 7. XII 2011 Tallinna ülikoolis.
2 Sellise järelduseni on varemgi jõutud, nt olen sellest kirjutanud oma väitekirjas (kaitstud 2008. aastal) ja artiklis. Vt Elo Lindsalu, Tammsaare noored naishinged. Rmt: Uurimusi kirjandusest ja kultuurist. Toim Anneli Kõvamees. Tallinna Ülikool, 2013, lk 74–99.
3 A. H. Tammsaare, Armastusest ja lapselikkusest. Koostanud Maarja Vaino. Ilmamaa, 2011, lk 128.
4 A. H. Tammsaare, Valitud artiklid. Eesti Raamat, 1976, lk 99–104.
Vaino on oma uurimuses kasutanud varasemate uurijate väärt tähelepanekuid: lähimineviku tekstitundlikumate kriitikute Endel Nirgi, Elem Treieri, Toomas Liivi ja Toomas Haugi kohalolu on tuntav. Neilt on laenatud ka mõningaid häid mõisteid, nt Liivilt telg ja teljestama. Vaino on nende mõtteid edasi arendanud või avastanud Tammsaare teostest hoopis uusi tähenduskihte, seoseid ja paralleele, prototüüpegi. Nii on huvitav lugeda, kuidas kirjaniku suur muusikaarmastus ja katkijäänud viiulimäng on leidnud tee tema teostesse, teisenenud „elutunnetuslikuks manifestatsiooniks“ (lk 140). Muusikamotiivi abil on püüdnud kirjanik jõuda lähemale inimese keeleülesele mõtlemisele ning anda edasi tegelase meeleolu. „Varjundite“ kõrvaltegelase Anton Petrovitši sõnul – Vaino tunneb temas ära kirjaniku kõrvaliste eest varjatud alter ego – saab inimene muusika kaudu tunnetada osadust kosmilise ja igavikulisega (lk 125).
Intrigeeriv on narri tüüpi tegelaste käsitlus. Teraselt on välja toodud rida veidi „hulle“ või lihtsameelseid, veiderdavaid ja provotseerivaid tegelasi, kes seavad kahtluse alla maailmas kehtivad „targad“ reeglid (lk 181) ja „paiskavad segi ratsionaalsete tegelaste maailmapildi“ (lk 185). Need on Narr näidendis „Kuningal on külm“, samuti Karin, Jürka, Pearu ja Maurus, kes päästavad oma vastastegelase „kontrollitud pealispinna alt valla tema tõelise olemuse“ (lk 182), seavad valitsevad normid kahtluse alla, osutudes oma näilise mõistmatuse kilbi taga tegelikult tõerääkijateks.
Alaosas „Lunastuse ilmumine. Neitsilikud tegelaskujud“ selgub, et Tammsaare naiskarakterid mõjuvad meestele ilmutuslikult ning toovad nad välja „karile jooksnud intellektualismist“ (Vladimir Macura). Nad peavad Goethe „Faustist“ laenatud Das Ewig-Weibliche ideaali kohaselt „tõmbama“ inimest ülespoole (lk 158). Sellised tegelased on Vaino arvates näiteks Krõõt, Ramilda ja Tiina. Neid ja ka narri tüüpi Karinit iseloomustab teistsugune, mehe omast erinev tarkus. „Näib, nagu kõneleks nende kaudu nn. kosmiline tarkus, mis ei lähtu niivõrd teadmistest ja mõistusest, vaid pigem intuitsioonist ja tunnetusest“ (lk 159). Vaino toob paralleeli Dostojevskiga, kellel on samuti „targa südamega“ tegelaseks sagedamini naine. Tammsaare naisekujud põhjustavad meestegelastes murranguid, panevad nad sisemiselt mässama ning tõukavad uude arenguetappi või elutsüklisse.2
Vaino interpretatsioonis näikse Tammsaare niisiis tõestavat teesi elu ja inimese irratsionaalsusest, milleni ta jõudis mõistuse jõuetust tunnistades. Üksnes ratsionaalsuse kultiveerimine viib inimese masinastumiseni. „Masinateriigis on inimene aina väiksemaks muutunud, ta on iseenese kaotanud,“ kurtis Tammsaare artiklis „Lunastus“.3 Teisalt nägi kirjanik inimest loomalike tungide meelevallas siplemas. Loodus valitseb inimese sammude üle nagu muistne moira – saatus – ka vastu tema paremat tahtmist, märkis Eduard Laamangi „Tõde ja õigust“ arvustades (vt lk 142). Vaevalt aga tähendab Tammsaare skeptitsism mõistuse ja ratsionaalsuse suhtes seda, et ta õigustas tungidele järeleandmist. Ihadekultuuri pärast on ta südant valutanud mitmeski kirjatükis, nt „Inimese kultuurist“.4 Kas ei lootnud kirjanik siiski, et inimene õpib oma madalaid tunge ja loomuomadusi (ahnus, edevus, võimujanu, upsakus jne) valitsema, sest see on ainus viis sõdade ja muude jõhkruste lõppemiseks?
Tammsaare kirjutas ajal, mil õhtumaises metafüüsikas valitses vaimu-keha dualism: Platonist peale on meelte ja tunnete sfääri ehk irratsionaalset seostatud just kehaga. Platon jt uskusid, et tõelise teadmise poole püüdlemisel peab jumalik ratsionaalne hing valitsema orjaliku sureliku keha üle. Tänapäeval käsitletakse inimest enamasti tervikuna ja moodsas kirjanduses on aina vähem tegemist elu ja inimese transtsendentse mõõtmega – asjaolu, mis kirjandust pigem vaesestab kui rikastab.
1 Maarja Vaino kaitses doktoritöö „Irratsionaalsuse poeetika A. H. Tammsaare loomingus“ 7. XII 2011 Tallinna ülikoolis.
2 Sellise järelduseni on varemgi jõutud, nt olen sellest kirjutanud oma väitekirjas (kaitstud 2008. aastal) ja artiklis. Vt Elo Lindsalu, Tammsaare noored naishinged. Rmt: Uurimusi kirjandusest ja kultuurist. Toim Anneli Kõvamees. Tallinna Ülikool, 2013, lk 74–99.
3 A. H. Tammsaare, Armastusest ja lapselikkusest. Koostanud Maarja Vaino. Ilmamaa, 2011, lk 128.
4 A. H. Tammsaare, Valitud artiklid. Eesti Raamat, 1976, lk 99–104.
28 October 2016 16:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mõistus või tunded?
Võluvalt lüürilises ja esseistlikus sissejuhatuses „Minu Tammsaare“ visandab Vaino kirjaniku „isikuprofiili kirjelduse“, milleks ta on andmeid kogunud juba aastaid Tammsaare muuseumi juhatajana. Vaino kahetseb, et ei ole iial saanud kuulda Tammsaare häält, mistõttu jääb üks oluline kild temast puudu.
Küll aga annab autor ammendava pildi Tammsaare lõpmata töökast ja sihikindlast iseloomust, avarast ja uudishimulikust vaimulaadist, tema suhtumisest religiooni ja kirikusse, mis oli küll vastuoluline, aga mitte mingil juhul primitiivselt ateistlik, millist müüti levitati nõukogude ajal. Vastupidi, kirjanik tundis hästi piiblit ja kasutas oma teosteski piibli keelt (eriti süntaksit), huvitus teoloogilistest probleemidest ning lähtus valdavalt kristlikest mõtteskeemidest.
Lühike ekskurss tehakse ka irratsionalismi kui filosoofilise õpetuse ja selle peamiste esindajate manu. Irratsionaalseks peetakse kõike seda, mida ei saa käsitleda mõistuse ja mõtlemise abil; „mõistusevastaseid jõude, mida arvatakse inimvaimu ja isegi olemise enda aluseks“ (lk 31). Kuigi Tammsaare ise ei olnud eksistentsialist ega irratsionalist, huvitas teda inimloomuse irratsionaalne pool samavõrd kui Schopenhauerit, Nietzschet, Kierkegaardi ja Freudi, kes kõik vastandusid valgustusaja ratsionalismile. XX sajandi alguse filosoofid Bergson, Weber ja Meyerson ei näinud aga irratsionaalsust mitte niivõrd mõistusele vastanduva, kui seda täiendava ja avardavana – nii Tammsaaregi.
Esmakordselt juhiti irratsionaalsuse mõõtmele Tammsaare loomingus tähelepanu tema 60. sünnipäeva puhul ilmunud sõnavõttudes. Nii August Annist, Daniel Palgi kui ka Rudolf Sirge märkisid toona kirjaniku paradoksilembust, mida seostati intellektualismi kriisiga; „temagi peaprobleem oli puhta mõistuse (ja sellele ehitet individualistlik-egoistliku, lõpuks ka hedonistliku kultuuri) puudulikkuse probleem“, rõhutas näiteks Annist (vt lk 41).
Irratsionaalsuse tasandeid Tammsaare loomingus on Vaino analüüsinud kolme motiivi ja kahe tüübi kaudu: saladused, maastikud, muusika, lunastavad neitsid ja narrid.
Peatükis „Reaalsed ja irreaalsed maastikud“ leidub mitmeid uudseid ja huvitavad tähelepanekuid. Tammsaare loodusesse suhtumise on autor sidunud piibli, Maeterlincki, Shakespeare’i ja Camus’ arusaamaga looduse ja inimese vahekorrast: inimene on looduse osa, kuid loodus ise inimeseülene. Vaino toob välja maastike sümboltasandid, nende sakraalse mõõtme ning näitab, kuidas koht määrab paljuski tegelase saatuse või on saatuse peegeldaja. Eriti põnev on romaani „Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan“ ruumikäsitlus, kus seosed teispoolsusega on kõige ilmsemad. Vaino oletab, et Jürka talu asub piiri peal, n-ö maailma lõpus, ja Jürkagi on „ühtaegu nii siin- kui sealpoolne olend“ (lk 103). Üks lõppjäreldusi on, et Tammsaare teoste „tegelane on sageli inimene, kes tunnetab eksistentsiaalset ängi, võimetust kontrollida olukordi ning kes seeläbi tunneb end n-ö saatuse mängukannina“ (lk 198). Säärane on näiteks Andres Paas, üks esimesi eksistentsialistlikke tegelasi eesti kirjanduses (lk 91). Romaani „Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan“ (1939) on saksa kirjandusteadlane Friedrich Scholtz aga nimetanud esimeseks eksistentsialistlikuks teoseks Euroopa kirjanduses. Senise kirjandusuurimuse kohaselt kinnitas eksistentsialism meil kanda alles 1960ndatel …
Võluvalt lüürilises ja esseistlikus sissejuhatuses „Minu Tammsaare“ visandab Vaino kirjaniku „isikuprofiili kirjelduse“, milleks ta on andmeid kogunud juba aastaid Tammsaare muuseumi juhatajana. Vaino kahetseb, et ei ole iial saanud kuulda Tammsaare häält, mistõttu jääb üks oluline kild temast puudu.
Küll aga annab autor ammendava pildi Tammsaare lõpmata töökast ja sihikindlast iseloomust, avarast ja uudishimulikust vaimulaadist, tema suhtumisest religiooni ja kirikusse, mis oli küll vastuoluline, aga mitte mingil juhul primitiivselt ateistlik, millist müüti levitati nõukogude ajal. Vastupidi, kirjanik tundis hästi piiblit ja kasutas oma teosteski piibli keelt (eriti süntaksit), huvitus teoloogilistest probleemidest ning lähtus valdavalt kristlikest mõtteskeemidest.
Lühike ekskurss tehakse ka irratsionalismi kui filosoofilise õpetuse ja selle peamiste esindajate manu. Irratsionaalseks peetakse kõike seda, mida ei saa käsitleda mõistuse ja mõtlemise abil; „mõistusevastaseid jõude, mida arvatakse inimvaimu ja isegi olemise enda aluseks“ (lk 31). Kuigi Tammsaare ise ei olnud eksistentsialist ega irratsionalist, huvitas teda inimloomuse irratsionaalne pool samavõrd kui Schopenhauerit, Nietzschet, Kierkegaardi ja Freudi, kes kõik vastandusid valgustusaja ratsionalismile. XX sajandi alguse filosoofid Bergson, Weber ja Meyerson ei näinud aga irratsionaalsust mitte niivõrd mõistusele vastanduva, kui seda täiendava ja avardavana – nii Tammsaaregi.
Esmakordselt juhiti irratsionaalsuse mõõtmele Tammsaare loomingus tähelepanu tema 60. sünnipäeva puhul ilmunud sõnavõttudes. Nii August Annist, Daniel Palgi kui ka Rudolf Sirge märkisid toona kirjaniku paradoksilembust, mida seostati intellektualismi kriisiga; „temagi peaprobleem oli puhta mõistuse (ja sellele ehitet individualistlik-egoistliku, lõpuks ka hedonistliku kultuuri) puudulikkuse probleem“, rõhutas näiteks Annist (vt lk 41).
Irratsionaalsuse tasandeid Tammsaare loomingus on Vaino analüüsinud kolme motiivi ja kahe tüübi kaudu: saladused, maastikud, muusika, lunastavad neitsid ja narrid.
Peatükis „Reaalsed ja irreaalsed maastikud“ leidub mitmeid uudseid ja huvitavad tähelepanekuid. Tammsaare loodusesse suhtumise on autor sidunud piibli, Maeterlincki, Shakespeare’i ja Camus’ arusaamaga looduse ja inimese vahekorrast: inimene on looduse osa, kuid loodus ise inimeseülene. Vaino toob välja maastike sümboltasandid, nende sakraalse mõõtme ning näitab, kuidas koht määrab paljuski tegelase saatuse või on saatuse peegeldaja. Eriti põnev on romaani „Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan“ ruumikäsitlus, kus seosed teispoolsusega on kõige ilmsemad. Vaino oletab, et Jürka talu asub piiri peal, n-ö maailma lõpus, ja Jürkagi on „ühtaegu nii siin- kui sealpoolne olend“ (lk 103). Üks lõppjäreldusi on, et Tammsaare teoste „tegelane on sageli inimene, kes tunnetab eksistentsiaalset ängi, võimetust kontrollida olukordi ning kes seeläbi tunneb end n-ö saatuse mängukannina“ (lk 198). Säärane on näiteks Andres Paas, üks esimesi eksistentsialistlikke tegelasi eesti kirjanduses (lk 91). Romaani „Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan“ (1939) on saksa kirjandusteadlane Friedrich Scholtz aga nimetanud esimeseks eksistentsialistlikuks teoseks Euroopa kirjanduses. Senise kirjandusuurimuse kohaselt kinnitas eksistentsialism meil kanda alles 1960ndatel …
28 October 2016 16:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ei õnnestu ammendada Tammsaare varaaita
ELO LINDSALU
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Maarja Vaino, Tammsaare irratsionaalsuse poeetika. Toimetanud Maiga Varik, kujundanud Merle Moorlat. Eesti Keele Sihtasutus, 2016. 264 lk.
A. H. Tammsaare looming ja tema elufilosoofia on ikka olnud lähedane ja oma. Nagu klassiku eluajal, käivad tänapäevalgi vaidlused selle ümber, mis on tõde ja kas seda on ülepea olemas. Teatavasti esitas sama küsimuse ka Pontius Pilatus Jeesusele, samuti paelus see Tammsaaret, kes on selle üle arutlenud oma tegelaste kaudu. Mitmesuguseid elutõdesid on Tammsaare teostest ammutatud pea sajandi jagu – ju siis on ta üks neid kirjanikke, kes on ise „tõe seest“ (vrd Jh 18:37).
On kurioosne, et Heino Puhvli 1966. aastal avaldatud Tammsaare-monograafia järel on valitsenud 50aastane paus. Selle aja jooksul on ilmunud siiski hulk põnevaid artikleid ja uurimusi, kus on rakendatud kirjandusteaduse uuemaid suundumusi. Maarja Vaino esitleb monograafias „Tammsaare irratsionaalsuse poeetika“ kirjanikku ja tema loomingut sellisest küljest, millele sündmustikule keskenduv lugeja vaevalt ise tuleks. Nimelt on Tammsaare romaanides ja nende põhjal lavastatud näidendites ning filmides tihti midagi esmapilgul tabamatut, mingi saladuslikkus ja mõistatuslikkus, mis tõstab lugeja-vaataja argipäevast kõrgemale ning paneb juurdlema elu sügavuste üle. Ka Tammsaare tegelaste käitumine on tihti kummaline, ei allu mõistusele või on sellega vastuolus. Vaino on olnud rabatud sellest, „kuidas tegelane on otsustanud midagi (õigesti) teha, aga teeb siis risti vastupidi ega suuda seda hiljem seletada“ (lk 19). Ta koondab kogu mõistatusliku ainese irratsionaalsuse mõiste alla ning muugib põhjalikult lahti.1 Autor analüüsib ja selgitab irratsionaalsuse kontseptsiooni kogu kirjaniku loomingu varal, paljastades täielikult meistri tehnika, võttestiku või poeetika – kuidas keegi seda nimetab.
Raamatu lõpuks saab selgeks, et midagi salapärast Tammsaare teostesse enam jäänud pole ja kõik tabamatu on päevavalgele toodud. Sellest on veidi kahjugi, sest kirjaniku geniaalsus, mis seni ju samuti natuke müstiline näis, on nüüd taandatud reaks tekstiloomevõteteks, alates filosoofilistest kontseptsioonidest ja lõpetades kirjanduslike motiivide ning tekstiseostega. Aga see ju ongi kirjandusteaduse ülesanne: selgitada, analüüsida, interpreteerida, seoseid luua. Vajadus Tammsaare teoste tänapäevase tõlgenduse järele oli pealegi ammu olemas. Raamat on hästi kirjutatud, lihtsas ja kõigile arusaadavas keeles, sobilik ka laiemale kultuuriavalikkusele, igale Tammsaare-huvilisele. Õpetajadki saavad nüüd toetuda värskele käsitlusele, mis on vaba liigsest realismikesksusest ning kus rõhuasetus on teose kui kunstilise terviku tähendusel ja ülesehitusel.
http://www.sirp.ee/s1-artiklid/c7-kirjandus/ei-onnestu-ammendada-tammsaare-varaaita/
ELO LINDSALU
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Maarja Vaino, Tammsaare irratsionaalsuse poeetika. Toimetanud Maiga Varik, kujundanud Merle Moorlat. Eesti Keele Sihtasutus, 2016. 264 lk.
A. H. Tammsaare looming ja tema elufilosoofia on ikka olnud lähedane ja oma. Nagu klassiku eluajal, käivad tänapäevalgi vaidlused selle ümber, mis on tõde ja kas seda on ülepea olemas. Teatavasti esitas sama küsimuse ka Pontius Pilatus Jeesusele, samuti paelus see Tammsaaret, kes on selle üle arutlenud oma tegelaste kaudu. Mitmesuguseid elutõdesid on Tammsaare teostest ammutatud pea sajandi jagu – ju siis on ta üks neid kirjanikke, kes on ise „tõe seest“ (vrd Jh 18:37).
On kurioosne, et Heino Puhvli 1966. aastal avaldatud Tammsaare-monograafia järel on valitsenud 50aastane paus. Selle aja jooksul on ilmunud siiski hulk põnevaid artikleid ja uurimusi, kus on rakendatud kirjandusteaduse uuemaid suundumusi. Maarja Vaino esitleb monograafias „Tammsaare irratsionaalsuse poeetika“ kirjanikku ja tema loomingut sellisest küljest, millele sündmustikule keskenduv lugeja vaevalt ise tuleks. Nimelt on Tammsaare romaanides ja nende põhjal lavastatud näidendites ning filmides tihti midagi esmapilgul tabamatut, mingi saladuslikkus ja mõistatuslikkus, mis tõstab lugeja-vaataja argipäevast kõrgemale ning paneb juurdlema elu sügavuste üle. Ka Tammsaare tegelaste käitumine on tihti kummaline, ei allu mõistusele või on sellega vastuolus. Vaino on olnud rabatud sellest, „kuidas tegelane on otsustanud midagi (õigesti) teha, aga teeb siis risti vastupidi ega suuda seda hiljem seletada“ (lk 19). Ta koondab kogu mõistatusliku ainese irratsionaalsuse mõiste alla ning muugib põhjalikult lahti.1 Autor analüüsib ja selgitab irratsionaalsuse kontseptsiooni kogu kirjaniku loomingu varal, paljastades täielikult meistri tehnika, võttestiku või poeetika – kuidas keegi seda nimetab.
Raamatu lõpuks saab selgeks, et midagi salapärast Tammsaare teostesse enam jäänud pole ja kõik tabamatu on päevavalgele toodud. Sellest on veidi kahjugi, sest kirjaniku geniaalsus, mis seni ju samuti natuke müstiline näis, on nüüd taandatud reaks tekstiloomevõteteks, alates filosoofilistest kontseptsioonidest ja lõpetades kirjanduslike motiivide ning tekstiseostega. Aga see ju ongi kirjandusteaduse ülesanne: selgitada, analüüsida, interpreteerida, seoseid luua. Vajadus Tammsaare teoste tänapäevase tõlgenduse järele oli pealegi ammu olemas. Raamat on hästi kirjutatud, lihtsas ja kõigile arusaadavas keeles, sobilik ka laiemale kultuuriavalikkusele, igale Tammsaare-huvilisele. Õpetajadki saavad nüüd toetuda värskele käsitlusele, mis on vaba liigsest realismikesksusest ning kus rõhuasetus on teose kui kunstilise terviku tähendusel ja ülesehitusel.
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28 October 2016 16:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vabadus teha valesid valikuid
Üht lohutust on Vanapaganal siiski pakkuda: inimesesugu ei pea päevapealt ära kutsutama. Tammsaare räägib otsustamise saja-aastastest tsüklitest. Jumalikus kontekstis möödub tuhat aastat nagu üks päev: „Sest tuhat aastat on sinu silmis nagu eilne päev, kui see on möödunud, ja nagu vahikord öösel“ (Ps 90:4); „Aga selle juures, mu armsad, ärgu jäägu teie eest varjule, et Issanda juures on üks päev nagu tuhat aastat ja tuhat aastat nagu üks päev“ (2Pt 3:8).
Aastasajad kaovad. „Vanapagan on juba mitmendat-setmendat vooru taevaukse taga, sest ta tahaks teada, on ta inimesena maa peal elades õndsaks saanud või mitte. Kaua peab ta koputama, enne kui Peetrus avab. „Sada aastat on täis, tulin jällegi,“ ütles Vanapagan Peetrusele. „Nii ruttu!“ imestab see. „Ootajal on aeg pikk.“ - „Jumal on pika meelega.“ - „Nii et otsust pole ikka veel tehtud?“ - „Veel mitte.““
Jumal oma pikameelsuses ei suuda otsustada, kas Vanapagan on inimesena õndsaks saanud ehk mitte. Pole teada, kuhu poole kaldub kaalukeel ja millal. Vahest antakse inimesele isegi uus võimalus, saadetakse Keegi Kolmas maa peale asja uurima. Vahest suudab inimene end ometi kokku võtta? Vanapaganale jääb vähemalt lootus, et ta saab ehk õndsaks, nii et võib põrgut edasi pidada, mistõttu inimelu jätkuks edaspidigi, nagu ennegi. Vanapagana lootus seostub otseselt n-ö kolmanda võimalusega.
Jumala kahtlustega on seletatav seegi, miks viibib viimnepäev, Issanda päev. Miks pole Jeesus Kristus tulnud teist korda tulena taevast? Hauad on avanemata, patused karistamata. Surnud pole tõusnud üles, kristlasi pole kistud üles taevasse, äkiline hukatus ei ole tabanud uskmatuid, kõiksus ei ole lagunenud kõikeneelavas tules algaineteks. Hakati ju kohe pärast Lunastaja lahkumist maa pealt ootama viimset päeva ja läbi kogu pika ning sugugi mitte pimeda keskaja usuti, et maailmalõpp on peagi käes ja viimne kohtupäev seisab ees täiesti reaalses tulevikus. Alles valgustusajal satuti eksitava kujutelma meelevalda, justkui kestaks elu ja inimene igavesti ning areng läheks ikka tõusu suunas, avades seega näiliku võimaluse ehitada igavene rahuriik üles juba maa peal. Kui Jumal kahtleb, tähendab see ühtlasi, et viimne kohtupäev jääb olemata. Pole enam kohut mõista...
Tammsaare on lootusepurustaja. Kui senini usuti, et Jumal teab kõik, et kehtib jumalik ettehooldus aegade algusest, siis nüüd selgub, et Temagi on vaba tegema valesid valikuid, nagu inimene. Maailm on prognoosimatu. Jumal kahtleb. Jumal kõhkleb. Jumal ei tea, mis saab. Jumal osutub olevat eksperimentaator, kes katsetades tunnetab iseennast.
Viited Hint, A. (1934) Tuli Jeesus... (Legend). - Looming, 1939, nr 4.
Kangro, B (1956). Taeva võtmed. Lund.
Kasak, E. (2006) Mis tunne on olla loll? - Vikerkaar, 2006, nr 1-2.
Tammsaare, A. H. (1985) Kogutud teosed 13. köide. Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan. Tallinn.
Tammsaare, A. H. (1988) Kogutud teosed 16. köide. Publitsistika II. Tallinn. Tammsaare, A. H. (1990) Kogutud teosed 17. köide. Publitsistika III. Tallinn.
Üht lohutust on Vanapaganal siiski pakkuda: inimesesugu ei pea päevapealt ära kutsutama. Tammsaare räägib otsustamise saja-aastastest tsüklitest. Jumalikus kontekstis möödub tuhat aastat nagu üks päev: „Sest tuhat aastat on sinu silmis nagu eilne päev, kui see on möödunud, ja nagu vahikord öösel“ (Ps 90:4); „Aga selle juures, mu armsad, ärgu jäägu teie eest varjule, et Issanda juures on üks päev nagu tuhat aastat ja tuhat aastat nagu üks päev“ (2Pt 3:8).
Aastasajad kaovad. „Vanapagan on juba mitmendat-setmendat vooru taevaukse taga, sest ta tahaks teada, on ta inimesena maa peal elades õndsaks saanud või mitte. Kaua peab ta koputama, enne kui Peetrus avab. „Sada aastat on täis, tulin jällegi,“ ütles Vanapagan Peetrusele. „Nii ruttu!“ imestab see. „Ootajal on aeg pikk.“ - „Jumal on pika meelega.“ - „Nii et otsust pole ikka veel tehtud?“ - „Veel mitte.““
Jumal oma pikameelsuses ei suuda otsustada, kas Vanapagan on inimesena õndsaks saanud ehk mitte. Pole teada, kuhu poole kaldub kaalukeel ja millal. Vahest antakse inimesele isegi uus võimalus, saadetakse Keegi Kolmas maa peale asja uurima. Vahest suudab inimene end ometi kokku võtta? Vanapaganale jääb vähemalt lootus, et ta saab ehk õndsaks, nii et võib põrgut edasi pidada, mistõttu inimelu jätkuks edaspidigi, nagu ennegi. Vanapagana lootus seostub otseselt n-ö kolmanda võimalusega.
Jumala kahtlustega on seletatav seegi, miks viibib viimnepäev, Issanda päev. Miks pole Jeesus Kristus tulnud teist korda tulena taevast? Hauad on avanemata, patused karistamata. Surnud pole tõusnud üles, kristlasi pole kistud üles taevasse, äkiline hukatus ei ole tabanud uskmatuid, kõiksus ei ole lagunenud kõikeneelavas tules algaineteks. Hakati ju kohe pärast Lunastaja lahkumist maa pealt ootama viimset päeva ja läbi kogu pika ning sugugi mitte pimeda keskaja usuti, et maailmalõpp on peagi käes ja viimne kohtupäev seisab ees täiesti reaalses tulevikus. Alles valgustusajal satuti eksitava kujutelma meelevalda, justkui kestaks elu ja inimene igavesti ning areng läheks ikka tõusu suunas, avades seega näiliku võimaluse ehitada igavene rahuriik üles juba maa peal. Kui Jumal kahtleb, tähendab see ühtlasi, et viimne kohtupäev jääb olemata. Pole enam kohut mõista...
Tammsaare on lootusepurustaja. Kui senini usuti, et Jumal teab kõik, et kehtib jumalik ettehooldus aegade algusest, siis nüüd selgub, et Temagi on vaba tegema valesid valikuid, nagu inimene. Maailm on prognoosimatu. Jumal kahtleb. Jumal kõhkleb. Jumal ei tea, mis saab. Jumal osutub olevat eksperimentaator, kes katsetades tunnetab iseennast.
Viited Hint, A. (1934) Tuli Jeesus... (Legend). - Looming, 1939, nr 4.
Kangro, B (1956). Taeva võtmed. Lund.
Kasak, E. (2006) Mis tunne on olla loll? - Vikerkaar, 2006, nr 1-2.
Tammsaare, A. H. (1985) Kogutud teosed 13. köide. Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan. Tallinn.
Tammsaare, A. H. (1988) Kogutud teosed 16. köide. Publitsistika II. Tallinn. Tammsaare, A. H. (1990) Kogutud teosed 17. köide. Publitsistika III. Tallinn.
28 October 2016 16:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Saatuslik tsükkel
Kirjutades kuradist, kes on tulnud maailma, et inimesele uut võimalust pakkuda, pidi autoril silme ees seisma teatud tulevikuvisioon - nagu meil kõigil. Kas Tammsaare aimas ette, mis hakkab lähemal ajal toimuma; et tähtsad saavad olema nii aastad 1941 kui ka 1953; 1944 ja 2016? Riikide ja rahvaste elus toimuvad olulised sündmused tihtilugu kaheteistaastase intervalliga. Tähtsaim on nn suuraasta: 12 x 12 = 144 aastat. Etruskite ajalik aeg olnud väidetavalt piiratud kaheteistkümne suuraastaga (12 x 12 x 12 = 12 x 144 aastat), seejärel nad ka otsa saanudki. Inimese ajaliku elu puhul pole täissuuraastast mõttekas rääkida, arvestada tuleb pigem poolsuuraastaga: 6 x 12 = 72 aastat. Üks näide: võtame aastad 1857, 1929, 2001 (1857 + 72 = 1929; 1857 + 144 = 2001). 1857 toimus esimene ülemaailmne majanduskriis, põhjustatud paanikast USA aktsiaturul (pankrotistus USA suurimaid rahandusettevõtteid, Ohio Elukindlustuse ja Usalduse Selts); 1929 oli teine ülemaailmne majanduskriis (Wall Streeti krahh tekitas globaalse depressiooni); 2001 varises USA-s põrmuks Maailma Kaubanduskeskuse kaksiktorn, alguse sai uus maailmakord. Kes julgeks väita, et 2001 ei alanud suur ja paljuhõlmav kriis? Et ühiskondlikud mullistused käivad ühes rütmis päikese aktiivsuse tõusude/langustega, pole muidugi mingi uudis.
Teine näide: paar aastat tagasi, 2008, võrreldi Gruusia sündmusi Austria Anschlussi ja Müncheni lepinguga aastast 1938. Ei, see oli alles paralleel vägede sisseviimisele Reini demilitariseeritud tsooni aastal 1936. Uus München seisab alles ees. Austria ja Tshehhoslovakkia sündmustega paralleele võimaldav pidi toimuma aastal 2010. Üks vihje: Vene pool sai kõnelustel NATO-ga kõik, mis soovis, ja Ukrainas tervitati venemeelsete võitu valimistel samuti Hitlerit Viinis...
Pole põhjust arvata, et Tammsaare polnuks suuteline ette nägema, kuhu arengutendentsid välja viivad. Eks kujutame meiegi ette, mis võib toimuda lähiaastatel, näiteks 2013 ja 2016. Geniaalsus suuresti selles väljendubki, et suuta teha järeldusi vähematele algandmetele toetudes kui lihtinimene. Veel ei räägitud küll ajaloo lõpust, ent võis väga hästi ette kujutada, et lõpu algus on kätte jõudnud. Hiljemalt aastast 1869 oli Eesti ajaloos kehtinud järjepidev kaheteistaastane tendents, millele olnuks raske mitte tähelepanu pöörata: 1869, 1881, 1893, 1905, 1917, 1929 - ja siis juba 1941, 1953, 1965, 1977, 1989, 2001, 2013...
1869 toimus 1. üldlaulupidu, 1881 sai sinimustvalge EÜS-i värvideks, 1893 tehti Tartu ülikoolist Jurjevi ülikool ja üldhariduskoolid olid läinud üle venekeelsele õppele, Venes algas võimas majandustõus). 1905. aasta revolutsioon puudutas Balti kubermange rohkem ja sügavamalt kui ülejäänud tohutu suurt riiki (karistussalkade tapetuist langes Eesti ja Läti arvele üle poole, kuigi Balti kubermangudes elas vähem kui 2% Vene impeeriumi rahvastikust; rahva pihta laskmine Tallinnas Uuel turul tegi näitlikult selgeks, mida on Vene keskvõimult oodata; idanes idee, et eesmärk saab olla ainult täielik rippumatus). Järgnesid aastad 1917 (Eesti iseseisvumisvõimaluse avanemine), 1929 (ülemaailmne majanduskriis; kollektiviseerimine Venes); 1941 (maailmasõda jõuab Eestisse), 1953 (nn sula algus), 1965 (nn sula lõpp), 1977 (nn kurjuse impeerium - Vene keskmaaraketid Euroopas), 1989 (Berliini müüri langemine ja Balti kett - mis pälvis Eestit külastanud Jaapani keisri Akihito sõnul kogu maailma tähelepanu), 2001 (uus maailmakord), 2013?
Tammsaare nägi ette... Ajamärke teab ja näeb ja loeb prohvet, paneb tähele ja tõlgendab, mis olulisim. Küsimus selles, kas igale sugupõlvele on antud kogeda lõpuajastu tunnusmärke akumuleerumas samal moel, samas tempos ja sama palju kui meile praegu. Meil seisab varsti ees tähtis daatum: eestluse ja Eesti riigi tekkes olulise tähendusega sündmusest, esimesest üldlaulupeost saab varsti täis suuraasta: 1869 + 144 = 2013. On see nüüd Eesti tõusu või languse aasta? Võimalused on veel õnneks avatud.
Kuigi ajalookulg polnud Tammsaare ajaks jõudnud veel sel määral konkretiseeruda kui praegu tagantjärele tarkusest näha, poleks tema tohutut lugemist arvestades imestada, kui temagi osanuks tähtsustada sedasama daatumit, sest aasta 2013 on märgilise tähendusega - see tähistab uue ajastu algust. Muistsete maiade uskumuste kohaselt saabub nimelt maailma lõpp talvisel pööripäeval, 21. detsembril 2012, kui lõpeb Veenuse suur tsükkel, mis kestnud 5125 aastat. See on ajastu lõpp, praeguse maailma viimane päev. Maiad uskusid, et maailma hävimise ja uuestiloomise protsess kordub ajastust ajastusse. Talvise pööripäevapäikese tõustes 2012 algab uus aeg. Kalendriküsimustes oli Tammsaare igatahes asjatundja (vt näiteks „Maailma kalender“, Meie Noorus, 1939, nr 11). Uus aasta algab talvise pööripäeva keskkööl. See ongi 2013. aasta algus, maiade ajastu lõpp, uue algus.
Poolsuuraasta iseäranis tähtsat rolli mänginud Venemaa eelmise sajandi ajalikus elus. Eesti ei ole maailmas üksi, iseäranis lahutamatult on meie saatus seotud Venega, nii et raske otsustada, kas nimetada seda põimumiseks või pigem juba lõimumiseks. Kaheteistaasta tsükkel mängib loomulikult ka Vene impeeriumi ajaloos saatuslikku rolli. Usuga oma erilisse missiooni käib paratamatult kaasas usk ettemääratusse, mida iseloomustab numeroloogia au sees pidamine, vähemalt alateadlikult. Vene tsivilisatsioon, nimetatud ka Bütsantsi tütartsivilisatsiooniks, jõudis inglise ajaloolase Toynbee järgi oma huku ajajärku aastal 1881, kui tapeti pärisorjuse kaotaja keiser Aleksander II. Stalin suri 1953 (1881 + 72) - ajalooaritmeetika järgi peaks midagi võrreldavat toimuma aastal 2025 (1881 + 144). Kuidas edasi? 2009 oli paralleel aastale 1937, 2010 on paralleele 1938. aastale ja 2011 on paralleel 1939. aastale.
Aastast 2013 (1941 + 72) leiaksid numeroloogid Vene ajaloo jaoks üht-teist põnevat. Selleks ajaks peakski Vene impeerium olema teatud ringkondade soovunelmate kohaselt taastanud oma endised rajad.
Tähtsad aastad on 1917 ja 1989 (1917 + 72 = 1989) - kummalgi korral toimus märgivahetus Vene riigis. Iseloomulik, et kummalgi korral järgnes kolme aasta pärast Eesti iseseisvus: 1920 Vabadussõja võidukas ots; 1992 oli Eesti riiklikult taasiseseisev. Kolmeaastase intervalliga käibki riburada järel meie jaoks tähendusrikas tendentside kindlustumine: 1920, 1932, 1944, 1956, 1968, 1980, 1992, 2004, 2016... Järjepidevus on igatahes kergesti hoomatav: 1920 (Eesti iseseisvuse kindlustumine), 1932 (ülemaailmne majanduskriis jõuab Eestisse), 1944 (lõpp lootustele - Eesti Vene võimu all), 1956 (Ungari sündmused); 1968 (Tšehhoslovakkia); 1980 (Poola); 1992 (Eesti, Läti, Leedu taas maailmakaardil); 2004 (Eesti, Läti, Leedu NATO-s ja EL-is); 2016 on juba paralleel aastale 1944. Nagu näha, on see puhas aritmeetika, ja matemaatikat me ometi austame ning armastame. Miks peaks arvatama, et kui üks seaduspära on senini kehtinud, kaotab ta nüüd äkki kehtivuse?
Üks asi, mida Tammsaare ilmselt ei võinud ette näha, oli nähtavasti see kolmeaastase intervalliga ilmnev paralleeltendents, mis polnud tema ajal õieti veel alatagi jõudnud. Eesti rahva saatuseaastad näivad olevat 1944 ja 2016. Mis on toimunud aastaks 2016? Oleme taas tagasi impeeriumi rüpes, ainult et pole teada, mis moodustis see saab olema. Suur-Venemaa? Euroopa ühiskodu? Euroopa moslemivabariik? Ettenägija Vanga on öelnud, et aastal 2016 on Euroopa peaaegu asustamata. Kuhu poole asjad lõplikult pööravad, saab selgeks tänavu (kuivõrd 2011 on paralleel aastale 1939). Tahaks loota, et arengud pöörduvad paremuse poole, kuid igaks juhuks tuleks siiski ette valmistuda. Et meid taas ootamatult ei tabataks. Juba toimub. Mäng käib, nagu alati, üle väikerahvaste pea.
Kirjutades kuradist, kes on tulnud maailma, et inimesele uut võimalust pakkuda, pidi autoril silme ees seisma teatud tulevikuvisioon - nagu meil kõigil. Kas Tammsaare aimas ette, mis hakkab lähemal ajal toimuma; et tähtsad saavad olema nii aastad 1941 kui ka 1953; 1944 ja 2016? Riikide ja rahvaste elus toimuvad olulised sündmused tihtilugu kaheteistaastase intervalliga. Tähtsaim on nn suuraasta: 12 x 12 = 144 aastat. Etruskite ajalik aeg olnud väidetavalt piiratud kaheteistkümne suuraastaga (12 x 12 x 12 = 12 x 144 aastat), seejärel nad ka otsa saanudki. Inimese ajaliku elu puhul pole täissuuraastast mõttekas rääkida, arvestada tuleb pigem poolsuuraastaga: 6 x 12 = 72 aastat. Üks näide: võtame aastad 1857, 1929, 2001 (1857 + 72 = 1929; 1857 + 144 = 2001). 1857 toimus esimene ülemaailmne majanduskriis, põhjustatud paanikast USA aktsiaturul (pankrotistus USA suurimaid rahandusettevõtteid, Ohio Elukindlustuse ja Usalduse Selts); 1929 oli teine ülemaailmne majanduskriis (Wall Streeti krahh tekitas globaalse depressiooni); 2001 varises USA-s põrmuks Maailma Kaubanduskeskuse kaksiktorn, alguse sai uus maailmakord. Kes julgeks väita, et 2001 ei alanud suur ja paljuhõlmav kriis? Et ühiskondlikud mullistused käivad ühes rütmis päikese aktiivsuse tõusude/langustega, pole muidugi mingi uudis.
Teine näide: paar aastat tagasi, 2008, võrreldi Gruusia sündmusi Austria Anschlussi ja Müncheni lepinguga aastast 1938. Ei, see oli alles paralleel vägede sisseviimisele Reini demilitariseeritud tsooni aastal 1936. Uus München seisab alles ees. Austria ja Tshehhoslovakkia sündmustega paralleele võimaldav pidi toimuma aastal 2010. Üks vihje: Vene pool sai kõnelustel NATO-ga kõik, mis soovis, ja Ukrainas tervitati venemeelsete võitu valimistel samuti Hitlerit Viinis...
Pole põhjust arvata, et Tammsaare polnuks suuteline ette nägema, kuhu arengutendentsid välja viivad. Eks kujutame meiegi ette, mis võib toimuda lähiaastatel, näiteks 2013 ja 2016. Geniaalsus suuresti selles väljendubki, et suuta teha järeldusi vähematele algandmetele toetudes kui lihtinimene. Veel ei räägitud küll ajaloo lõpust, ent võis väga hästi ette kujutada, et lõpu algus on kätte jõudnud. Hiljemalt aastast 1869 oli Eesti ajaloos kehtinud järjepidev kaheteistaastane tendents, millele olnuks raske mitte tähelepanu pöörata: 1869, 1881, 1893, 1905, 1917, 1929 - ja siis juba 1941, 1953, 1965, 1977, 1989, 2001, 2013...
1869 toimus 1. üldlaulupidu, 1881 sai sinimustvalge EÜS-i värvideks, 1893 tehti Tartu ülikoolist Jurjevi ülikool ja üldhariduskoolid olid läinud üle venekeelsele õppele, Venes algas võimas majandustõus). 1905. aasta revolutsioon puudutas Balti kubermange rohkem ja sügavamalt kui ülejäänud tohutu suurt riiki (karistussalkade tapetuist langes Eesti ja Läti arvele üle poole, kuigi Balti kubermangudes elas vähem kui 2% Vene impeeriumi rahvastikust; rahva pihta laskmine Tallinnas Uuel turul tegi näitlikult selgeks, mida on Vene keskvõimult oodata; idanes idee, et eesmärk saab olla ainult täielik rippumatus). Järgnesid aastad 1917 (Eesti iseseisvumisvõimaluse avanemine), 1929 (ülemaailmne majanduskriis; kollektiviseerimine Venes); 1941 (maailmasõda jõuab Eestisse), 1953 (nn sula algus), 1965 (nn sula lõpp), 1977 (nn kurjuse impeerium - Vene keskmaaraketid Euroopas), 1989 (Berliini müüri langemine ja Balti kett - mis pälvis Eestit külastanud Jaapani keisri Akihito sõnul kogu maailma tähelepanu), 2001 (uus maailmakord), 2013?
Tammsaare nägi ette... Ajamärke teab ja näeb ja loeb prohvet, paneb tähele ja tõlgendab, mis olulisim. Küsimus selles, kas igale sugupõlvele on antud kogeda lõpuajastu tunnusmärke akumuleerumas samal moel, samas tempos ja sama palju kui meile praegu. Meil seisab varsti ees tähtis daatum: eestluse ja Eesti riigi tekkes olulise tähendusega sündmusest, esimesest üldlaulupeost saab varsti täis suuraasta: 1869 + 144 = 2013. On see nüüd Eesti tõusu või languse aasta? Võimalused on veel õnneks avatud.
Kuigi ajalookulg polnud Tammsaare ajaks jõudnud veel sel määral konkretiseeruda kui praegu tagantjärele tarkusest näha, poleks tema tohutut lugemist arvestades imestada, kui temagi osanuks tähtsustada sedasama daatumit, sest aasta 2013 on märgilise tähendusega - see tähistab uue ajastu algust. Muistsete maiade uskumuste kohaselt saabub nimelt maailma lõpp talvisel pööripäeval, 21. detsembril 2012, kui lõpeb Veenuse suur tsükkel, mis kestnud 5125 aastat. See on ajastu lõpp, praeguse maailma viimane päev. Maiad uskusid, et maailma hävimise ja uuestiloomise protsess kordub ajastust ajastusse. Talvise pööripäevapäikese tõustes 2012 algab uus aeg. Kalendriküsimustes oli Tammsaare igatahes asjatundja (vt näiteks „Maailma kalender“, Meie Noorus, 1939, nr 11). Uus aasta algab talvise pööripäeva keskkööl. See ongi 2013. aasta algus, maiade ajastu lõpp, uue algus.
Poolsuuraasta iseäranis tähtsat rolli mänginud Venemaa eelmise sajandi ajalikus elus. Eesti ei ole maailmas üksi, iseäranis lahutamatult on meie saatus seotud Venega, nii et raske otsustada, kas nimetada seda põimumiseks või pigem juba lõimumiseks. Kaheteistaasta tsükkel mängib loomulikult ka Vene impeeriumi ajaloos saatuslikku rolli. Usuga oma erilisse missiooni käib paratamatult kaasas usk ettemääratusse, mida iseloomustab numeroloogia au sees pidamine, vähemalt alateadlikult. Vene tsivilisatsioon, nimetatud ka Bütsantsi tütartsivilisatsiooniks, jõudis inglise ajaloolase Toynbee järgi oma huku ajajärku aastal 1881, kui tapeti pärisorjuse kaotaja keiser Aleksander II. Stalin suri 1953 (1881 + 72) - ajalooaritmeetika järgi peaks midagi võrreldavat toimuma aastal 2025 (1881 + 144). Kuidas edasi? 2009 oli paralleel aastale 1937, 2010 on paralleele 1938. aastale ja 2011 on paralleel 1939. aastale.
Aastast 2013 (1941 + 72) leiaksid numeroloogid Vene ajaloo jaoks üht-teist põnevat. Selleks ajaks peakski Vene impeerium olema teatud ringkondade soovunelmate kohaselt taastanud oma endised rajad.
Tähtsad aastad on 1917 ja 1989 (1917 + 72 = 1989) - kummalgi korral toimus märgivahetus Vene riigis. Iseloomulik, et kummalgi korral järgnes kolme aasta pärast Eesti iseseisvus: 1920 Vabadussõja võidukas ots; 1992 oli Eesti riiklikult taasiseseisev. Kolmeaastase intervalliga käibki riburada järel meie jaoks tähendusrikas tendentside kindlustumine: 1920, 1932, 1944, 1956, 1968, 1980, 1992, 2004, 2016... Järjepidevus on igatahes kergesti hoomatav: 1920 (Eesti iseseisvuse kindlustumine), 1932 (ülemaailmne majanduskriis jõuab Eestisse), 1944 (lõpp lootustele - Eesti Vene võimu all), 1956 (Ungari sündmused); 1968 (Tšehhoslovakkia); 1980 (Poola); 1992 (Eesti, Läti, Leedu taas maailmakaardil); 2004 (Eesti, Läti, Leedu NATO-s ja EL-is); 2016 on juba paralleel aastale 1944. Nagu näha, on see puhas aritmeetika, ja matemaatikat me ometi austame ning armastame. Miks peaks arvatama, et kui üks seaduspära on senini kehtinud, kaotab ta nüüd äkki kehtivuse?
Üks asi, mida Tammsaare ilmselt ei võinud ette näha, oli nähtavasti see kolmeaastase intervalliga ilmnev paralleeltendents, mis polnud tema ajal õieti veel alatagi jõudnud. Eesti rahva saatuseaastad näivad olevat 1944 ja 2016. Mis on toimunud aastaks 2016? Oleme taas tagasi impeeriumi rüpes, ainult et pole teada, mis moodustis see saab olema. Suur-Venemaa? Euroopa ühiskodu? Euroopa moslemivabariik? Ettenägija Vanga on öelnud, et aastal 2016 on Euroopa peaaegu asustamata. Kuhu poole asjad lõplikult pööravad, saab selgeks tänavu (kuivõrd 2011 on paralleel aastale 1939). Tahaks loota, et arengud pöörduvad paremuse poole, kuid igaks juhuks tuleks siiski ette valmistuda. Et meid taas ootamatult ei tabataks. Juba toimub. Mäng käib, nagu alati, üle väikerahvaste pea.
28 October 2016 16:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Juuda suudlus
Kaval-Ants esineb Uusimas Testamendis Ristija Johannese rollis, kes mängis Uues Testamendis Juudas Iskarioti kõrval peaosa Jeesuse jumaliku missiooni täitmisel. Ants on otsetuletis Ristija Johannese nimest: Ants Johannes Jochanan J(eh)ochanan ’Jumala arm, heldus’. Ristija Johannese vahendusel langes Jumala vaim Jeesuse peale, Kaval-Antsu kaudu saab Vanapagan õndsaks (kui saab), kuivõrd tööd ja vaeva annab Ants. Tähenduslik on Juula ja Jürka dialoog: „Sul ikka see Ants ees ja taga, nagu saaksid tema läbi õndsaks.“ - „Aga kelle läbi siis?“ - „Oma töö ja vaeva läbi.“ - „Aga kes annab töö ja vaeva?“ - „Noh, selle annab muidugi Ants. Nii et kui nõnda võtta, siis saame muidugi Antsu läbi õndsaks.“ - „Seda minagi. Sellepärast ära laida Antsu, tema on kuldaväärt mees.“
Vastust nõuab küsimus: kes mängib Tammsaarel Juuda rolli? Õndsuslooliselt on asendamatud mõlemad, nii Ristija Johannes kui ka Juudas Iskariot. Siinkirjutajal on millegipärast tunne, et oleks Tammsaarele rohkem aega antud, pöördunuks ta ka Juudas Iskarioti teema poole. Et mõista Juuda tähendust kristluse sünnis, polnuks ju vaja oodata „Juuda evangeeliumi“ käsikirjakatkete juhuslikku ülesleidmist. Lisaks Jeesusele osales üksnes Juudas selles draamas teadlikult. Kavatsedes uue Vanapagana teemat uuesti käsitleda, toonuks Tammsaare vahest just siis sisse ka Juuda kuju edasiarenduse - muidugi, kui ta polnud Juudast Kaval-Antsu puhul ära kasutanud. Sest vahest on tegu Kaval-Antsu kaksikrolliga, mis ühendab endas nii Ristija Johannese kui Juudas Iskarioti õndsustegevust. Antsu kavalus seisneb suuresti selles, kuidas Vanapaganat õndsusteel juhtida. Kaval-Ants muutub Vanapagana suurest sõbrast surmavaenlaseks, ajades ta Põrgupõhjalt ära; vaevates teda viimse piirini - ent nimelt läbi vaeva saab õndsaks. Lõpliku lahenduse eelne äraandmine resp. üle andmine on möödapääsematu nii jumaliku kui kuratliku missiooni täideviimiseks.
Tammsaarel olnuks kindlasti pakkuda oma versioon ka Juuda suudluse kohta, mis on õndsusloolises kontekstis millegipärast muutunud jälgima võimaliku reeturlikkuse märgiks: „Kui Jeesus alles rääkis, vaata, tuli rahvajõuk, ja see, keda hüüti Juudaks - üks neist kaheteistkümnest -, käis nende ees ja astus Jeesuse juurde talle suud andma. Aga Jeesus ütles talle: „Juudas, kas sa annad Inimese Poja suudlusega ära?““ (Lk 22:47-48). Võimalusi ju on, näiteks: Juuda suudlus kui lahkumissuudlus, s.o viimane suudlus armastatud õpetajale, ja viimne maine suudlus üldse elava Inimese Poja palgel - Ülestõusnu oli Jumal. Pühakiri kõneleb võrreldavalt pühast suudlusest ja armastussuudlusest, millega tervitada üksteist (Rm 16:16; 1Pt 5:14). Ei mõistnud seega Inimese Poeg lõpuni Juudast (annad Inimese Poja suudlusega ära). Samuti ei tahtnud Vanapagangi hästi aru saada Kaval-Antsu lõpueelsest tegevusest kui paratamatust sammust õndsusteel.
Keskaegses kristlikus sakraalkunstis ilmneb omapärane motiiv, kus kurat tehakse sõna otseses mõttes narriks. Põhjala vanade kivikirikute seina- ja laemaalingutel esineb ta teinekord, narrimüts peas ja narrirüü seljas. Sama motiiv kordub iseloomulikult ka Kristuse puhul - Kristus kroonitakse narrikuningaks. Inimesed panid meiegi maale maha tulnud kuradit naeruks: Jürka tahab õndsaks saada, et põrgu minna. Kas ta ise mõtleb ka, mis räägib? Vanapagana jutt on ilmarahva meelest imelik - mis pole kaugel sellest, et olla imeline.
Kirikuõpetaja sõnul on Jürka „nagu särav täht pilkases pimeduses, ainult et ta valgus paistab pisut viltu.“ Eks olnud nii Jeesus Kristus, maailma valgus, kui ka valgusekandja Lucifer koidutähed mõlemad. Koidutäht kuulutab uue päeva, uue ajastu algust.
Tammsaare annab ilmekalt edasi kuradi religioosseid kogemusi inimeseks olemisest - kuradi kõhklusi, kuradi kahtlusi. Tulnud tagasi, tõdeb Vanapagan nukralt: „Tunnen, et olen asjata maa peal elanud.“ Üsna sama tunne võis olla Lunastajal, kui Ta oli oma loometöös kahtlema hakates sunnitud Kuradi maa peale saatma.
Ääremärkuse korras. Et just proloog/epiloog on Tammsaare teose mõistmiseks põhjapaneva tähendusega, selle kohta leidub viide ka Bernard Kangro järelsõnast romaanile „Taeva võtmed“ (Lund, 1956). „Taeva võtmed“ jätkab sealt, kus Tammsaare epiloogi-eelselt lõpetas. Kangro kirjutab õnnetust Vanapaganast, kes „kembeldes sulina kujutatud ning moodsaks kurnajaks teritatud Kaval-Antsuga, ilma lunastuse võimaluseta, ilma vähimagi lootuseta õndsaks saada, tagasi oma põrgusse põgenes“. Varju jäi seega tema eest Tammsaare tegelik tähendus. Ilmselt polnud tal lihtsalt olnud võimalust lugeda kogu teost, sest „Proloog“ ja „Epiloog“ ilmus väidetavalt esmakordselt „Loomingus“ 1953, nr 9, ja seejärel romaani viiendas trükis 1954, Tallinn.
Kaval-Ants esineb Uusimas Testamendis Ristija Johannese rollis, kes mängis Uues Testamendis Juudas Iskarioti kõrval peaosa Jeesuse jumaliku missiooni täitmisel. Ants on otsetuletis Ristija Johannese nimest: Ants Johannes Jochanan J(eh)ochanan ’Jumala arm, heldus’. Ristija Johannese vahendusel langes Jumala vaim Jeesuse peale, Kaval-Antsu kaudu saab Vanapagan õndsaks (kui saab), kuivõrd tööd ja vaeva annab Ants. Tähenduslik on Juula ja Jürka dialoog: „Sul ikka see Ants ees ja taga, nagu saaksid tema läbi õndsaks.“ - „Aga kelle läbi siis?“ - „Oma töö ja vaeva läbi.“ - „Aga kes annab töö ja vaeva?“ - „Noh, selle annab muidugi Ants. Nii et kui nõnda võtta, siis saame muidugi Antsu läbi õndsaks.“ - „Seda minagi. Sellepärast ära laida Antsu, tema on kuldaväärt mees.“
Vastust nõuab küsimus: kes mängib Tammsaarel Juuda rolli? Õndsuslooliselt on asendamatud mõlemad, nii Ristija Johannes kui ka Juudas Iskariot. Siinkirjutajal on millegipärast tunne, et oleks Tammsaarele rohkem aega antud, pöördunuks ta ka Juudas Iskarioti teema poole. Et mõista Juuda tähendust kristluse sünnis, polnuks ju vaja oodata „Juuda evangeeliumi“ käsikirjakatkete juhuslikku ülesleidmist. Lisaks Jeesusele osales üksnes Juudas selles draamas teadlikult. Kavatsedes uue Vanapagana teemat uuesti käsitleda, toonuks Tammsaare vahest just siis sisse ka Juuda kuju edasiarenduse - muidugi, kui ta polnud Juudast Kaval-Antsu puhul ära kasutanud. Sest vahest on tegu Kaval-Antsu kaksikrolliga, mis ühendab endas nii Ristija Johannese kui Juudas Iskarioti õndsustegevust. Antsu kavalus seisneb suuresti selles, kuidas Vanapaganat õndsusteel juhtida. Kaval-Ants muutub Vanapagana suurest sõbrast surmavaenlaseks, ajades ta Põrgupõhjalt ära; vaevates teda viimse piirini - ent nimelt läbi vaeva saab õndsaks. Lõpliku lahenduse eelne äraandmine resp. üle andmine on möödapääsematu nii jumaliku kui kuratliku missiooni täideviimiseks.
Tammsaarel olnuks kindlasti pakkuda oma versioon ka Juuda suudluse kohta, mis on õndsusloolises kontekstis millegipärast muutunud jälgima võimaliku reeturlikkuse märgiks: „Kui Jeesus alles rääkis, vaata, tuli rahvajõuk, ja see, keda hüüti Juudaks - üks neist kaheteistkümnest -, käis nende ees ja astus Jeesuse juurde talle suud andma. Aga Jeesus ütles talle: „Juudas, kas sa annad Inimese Poja suudlusega ära?““ (Lk 22:47-48). Võimalusi ju on, näiteks: Juuda suudlus kui lahkumissuudlus, s.o viimane suudlus armastatud õpetajale, ja viimne maine suudlus üldse elava Inimese Poja palgel - Ülestõusnu oli Jumal. Pühakiri kõneleb võrreldavalt pühast suudlusest ja armastussuudlusest, millega tervitada üksteist (Rm 16:16; 1Pt 5:14). Ei mõistnud seega Inimese Poeg lõpuni Juudast (annad Inimese Poja suudlusega ära). Samuti ei tahtnud Vanapagangi hästi aru saada Kaval-Antsu lõpueelsest tegevusest kui paratamatust sammust õndsusteel.
Keskaegses kristlikus sakraalkunstis ilmneb omapärane motiiv, kus kurat tehakse sõna otseses mõttes narriks. Põhjala vanade kivikirikute seina- ja laemaalingutel esineb ta teinekord, narrimüts peas ja narrirüü seljas. Sama motiiv kordub iseloomulikult ka Kristuse puhul - Kristus kroonitakse narrikuningaks. Inimesed panid meiegi maale maha tulnud kuradit naeruks: Jürka tahab õndsaks saada, et põrgu minna. Kas ta ise mõtleb ka, mis räägib? Vanapagana jutt on ilmarahva meelest imelik - mis pole kaugel sellest, et olla imeline.
Kirikuõpetaja sõnul on Jürka „nagu särav täht pilkases pimeduses, ainult et ta valgus paistab pisut viltu.“ Eks olnud nii Jeesus Kristus, maailma valgus, kui ka valgusekandja Lucifer koidutähed mõlemad. Koidutäht kuulutab uue päeva, uue ajastu algust.
Tammsaare annab ilmekalt edasi kuradi religioosseid kogemusi inimeseks olemisest - kuradi kõhklusi, kuradi kahtlusi. Tulnud tagasi, tõdeb Vanapagan nukralt: „Tunnen, et olen asjata maa peal elanud.“ Üsna sama tunne võis olla Lunastajal, kui Ta oli oma loometöös kahtlema hakates sunnitud Kuradi maa peale saatma.
Ääremärkuse korras. Et just proloog/epiloog on Tammsaare teose mõistmiseks põhjapaneva tähendusega, selle kohta leidub viide ka Bernard Kangro järelsõnast romaanile „Taeva võtmed“ (Lund, 1956). „Taeva võtmed“ jätkab sealt, kus Tammsaare epiloogi-eelselt lõpetas. Kangro kirjutab õnnetust Vanapaganast, kes „kembeldes sulina kujutatud ning moodsaks kurnajaks teritatud Kaval-Antsuga, ilma lunastuse võimaluseta, ilma vähimagi lootuseta õndsaks saada, tagasi oma põrgusse põgenes“. Varju jäi seega tema eest Tammsaare tegelik tähendus. Ilmselt polnud tal lihtsalt olnud võimalust lugeda kogu teost, sest „Proloog“ ja „Epiloog“ ilmus väidetavalt esmakordselt „Loomingus“ 1953, nr 9, ja seejärel romaani viiendas trükis 1954, Tallinn.
28 October 2016 16:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mida targem, seda lollim
Siit olemuslik küsimus: miks lõi Jumal inimese? Inimene kui paradiisiaia valvur - seda küll, aga kindlasti mitte ainult. Kuivõrd Looja lõi maailma oma ilu ilmutuseks, peaks Vaatleja loomine olema lausa Tema aukohus. Kui mõttekas oleks jumalik ilu, kõiksuse ilu, süsteemi ilu, kui seda keegi süsteemisiseselt ei mõtestaks? Tahaks ikka nagu tunda uhkust oma töö ja teo üle. Jumal, kuigi kõikvõimas ja kõiketeadja ja kahtleja, tundub olevat ka natuke kergemeelne, s.o ühtteist inimlikkugi pole talle võõras. Mis loomulik.
Lisaks uhkustamisele näib Looja olevat ka uudishimulik. Võimalik, et Ta tahab teada saada, mis tunne on olla loll. Kuivõrd Absoluudi üheks atribuudiks on kõiketeadmine, tekib probleem: kas Ta on ka siis kõiketeadev, kui on asju, mida inimene teab ja Tema ei tea. Astronoomfilosoof Enn Kasak küsib: „Kuidas saab kõiketeadev olend teada, mis tunne on olla loll? Kuidas saab kõiketeadja teada seda, mida tähendab, kui ma ei tea, sest tema teab ju kõike alati?“ Võimalik, „et sellepärast ongi Jumal inimese loonud: meie ülesanne on olla lollid selles maailmas; võib osutuda, et meie rumalus on meie paratamatu olemuslik omadus.“
Jumala kõiketeadmine realiseerub inimese rumaluse kaudu. Siit vastus küsimusele elu mõttest: „inimese olemasolu mõte võiks olla see, et inimene on loll“. Oma rumaluses võime saavutada jumaliku kvaliteedi ja mitte keegi teine ei saa meile vastu: „ainult inimene võib jõuda pääsemiseni. Jumalad on selleks liiga targad, et lollid olla, ja loomad on liiga lollid, et olla piisavalt targad, olemaks piisavalt lollid,“ tõdeb Enn Kasak (Kasak 2006, 123).
Mäletatavasti oli ’küllap vist’ Põrgupõhja uue Vanapagana meelisväljend. See kajastas mingit vanapaganlikku dialektikat, mis ei suutnud leppida moodsale analüütilisele mõtlemislaadile omase emma-kumma taotlusega. Sest asjad võivad osutuda tunduvalt keerulisemaks, kui abstraktselt mõtlejate jah/ei, teineteist välistavate võimaluste mustvalge maailmapilt, europotsentristlik liigselt lihtsustav lähenemisviis suudab esitada. Kui just võimaluste mitmekesisus annab tegelikkuse eri aspekte edasi võimalikult täielikult. Tammsaare on selle selgelt esile toonud. Harimata mats arvestab oma inimlikust rumalusest/tarkusest lähtuvalt kõiki tähelepanuväärivaid asjaolusid, sh et erand kinnitab reeglit; ja et keegi pole ometi jumal, kes teab kõike. Seega saabki korrektne vastus küsimusele olla: ei tea resp. küllap vist. Sest inimene ei tea eriti midagi - ei tea, miks käitub inimühiskond otsekui arutu tirtsuparv, kuigi koosneb arukaist olendest; ei tea, mis toimub pea kohal taevas üleval või jalge all maa sügavuses; ei tea sedagi, kas päike on olemas - teab vaid, seitse-kaheksa minutit tagasi päike paistis veel (rääkimata tähtedest, mille valgus on aastamiljoneid teel). Minevikku ei ole enam, tulevik pole veel tulnud, ja olevikkugi pole õieti olemas - juba ta ongi otsas. Nõnda et rumal Vanapagan ja kaval Ants - ühed lollid mõlemad. Kui lollust saaks mõõta, võib muidugi osutuda, et üks on lollim kui teine. Sest see loll, kes tunneb ennast targana, on „tegelikult tõeliselt loll“, nagu sedastab Enn Kasak. Vanapaganal on järelikult inimesena lootust.
Seega - kas lisaks seigale, et mis sest kraavilabidast ikka tahta, võib inimese ebatäiuslikkus väljenduda, s.o tema tagasikutsumise põhjus peituda ka selles, et inimene tahab targaks saada, Jumalaks hakata, üritades puutuda asjade olemust, sekkuda loomistegevusse? Mis väljendus juba Tammsaare ajal (tuumalõhustamine) ja ilmneb iseäranis praegu (geenimanipulatsioonid).
Kuivõrd pääste on varutud üksnes inimesele, peab kurat maa peale inimeseks minema, et Jumal saaks teada, kas õndsakssaamine on võimalik. Kas Ta siis ise ei tea? See on Tammsaare originaalne leidus: kõiketeadja Jumal ei tea sedagi mitte, kas inimene (kuigi loodud Enda sarnaseks) on ebaõnnestunud või mitte.
Siit olemuslik küsimus: miks lõi Jumal inimese? Inimene kui paradiisiaia valvur - seda küll, aga kindlasti mitte ainult. Kuivõrd Looja lõi maailma oma ilu ilmutuseks, peaks Vaatleja loomine olema lausa Tema aukohus. Kui mõttekas oleks jumalik ilu, kõiksuse ilu, süsteemi ilu, kui seda keegi süsteemisiseselt ei mõtestaks? Tahaks ikka nagu tunda uhkust oma töö ja teo üle. Jumal, kuigi kõikvõimas ja kõiketeadja ja kahtleja, tundub olevat ka natuke kergemeelne, s.o ühtteist inimlikkugi pole talle võõras. Mis loomulik.
Lisaks uhkustamisele näib Looja olevat ka uudishimulik. Võimalik, et Ta tahab teada saada, mis tunne on olla loll. Kuivõrd Absoluudi üheks atribuudiks on kõiketeadmine, tekib probleem: kas Ta on ka siis kõiketeadev, kui on asju, mida inimene teab ja Tema ei tea. Astronoomfilosoof Enn Kasak küsib: „Kuidas saab kõiketeadev olend teada, mis tunne on olla loll? Kuidas saab kõiketeadja teada seda, mida tähendab, kui ma ei tea, sest tema teab ju kõike alati?“ Võimalik, „et sellepärast ongi Jumal inimese loonud: meie ülesanne on olla lollid selles maailmas; võib osutuda, et meie rumalus on meie paratamatu olemuslik omadus.“
Jumala kõiketeadmine realiseerub inimese rumaluse kaudu. Siit vastus küsimusele elu mõttest: „inimese olemasolu mõte võiks olla see, et inimene on loll“. Oma rumaluses võime saavutada jumaliku kvaliteedi ja mitte keegi teine ei saa meile vastu: „ainult inimene võib jõuda pääsemiseni. Jumalad on selleks liiga targad, et lollid olla, ja loomad on liiga lollid, et olla piisavalt targad, olemaks piisavalt lollid,“ tõdeb Enn Kasak (Kasak 2006, 123).
Mäletatavasti oli ’küllap vist’ Põrgupõhja uue Vanapagana meelisväljend. See kajastas mingit vanapaganlikku dialektikat, mis ei suutnud leppida moodsale analüütilisele mõtlemislaadile omase emma-kumma taotlusega. Sest asjad võivad osutuda tunduvalt keerulisemaks, kui abstraktselt mõtlejate jah/ei, teineteist välistavate võimaluste mustvalge maailmapilt, europotsentristlik liigselt lihtsustav lähenemisviis suudab esitada. Kui just võimaluste mitmekesisus annab tegelikkuse eri aspekte edasi võimalikult täielikult. Tammsaare on selle selgelt esile toonud. Harimata mats arvestab oma inimlikust rumalusest/tarkusest lähtuvalt kõiki tähelepanuväärivaid asjaolusid, sh et erand kinnitab reeglit; ja et keegi pole ometi jumal, kes teab kõike. Seega saabki korrektne vastus küsimusele olla: ei tea resp. küllap vist. Sest inimene ei tea eriti midagi - ei tea, miks käitub inimühiskond otsekui arutu tirtsuparv, kuigi koosneb arukaist olendest; ei tea, mis toimub pea kohal taevas üleval või jalge all maa sügavuses; ei tea sedagi, kas päike on olemas - teab vaid, seitse-kaheksa minutit tagasi päike paistis veel (rääkimata tähtedest, mille valgus on aastamiljoneid teel). Minevikku ei ole enam, tulevik pole veel tulnud, ja olevikkugi pole õieti olemas - juba ta ongi otsas. Nõnda et rumal Vanapagan ja kaval Ants - ühed lollid mõlemad. Kui lollust saaks mõõta, võib muidugi osutuda, et üks on lollim kui teine. Sest see loll, kes tunneb ennast targana, on „tegelikult tõeliselt loll“, nagu sedastab Enn Kasak. Vanapaganal on järelikult inimesena lootust.
Seega - kas lisaks seigale, et mis sest kraavilabidast ikka tahta, võib inimese ebatäiuslikkus väljenduda, s.o tema tagasikutsumise põhjus peituda ka selles, et inimene tahab targaks saada, Jumalaks hakata, üritades puutuda asjade olemust, sekkuda loomistegevusse? Mis väljendus juba Tammsaare ajal (tuumalõhustamine) ja ilmneb iseäranis praegu (geenimanipulatsioonid).
Kuivõrd pääste on varutud üksnes inimesele, peab kurat maa peale inimeseks minema, et Jumal saaks teada, kas õndsakssaamine on võimalik. Kas Ta siis ise ei tea? See on Tammsaare originaalne leidus: kõiketeadja Jumal ei tea sedagi mitte, kas inimene (kuigi loodud Enda sarnaseks) on ebaõnnestunud või mitte.
28 October 2016 16:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Viigipuu vastutus
Tammsaare probleemikäsitusel inimese ebatäiuslikkusest on leida ühist n-ö viigipuu vastutuse temaatikaga. Jeesus mäletatavasti neab viljatu viigipuu: „„Ei tule sinust enam iialgi vilja!“; „Ärgu iialgi enam ükski sinust vilja söögu!“, ja viigipuu kuivab (Mk 11:13; 20-21; vrd ka Mt 21:19-21). See kirjakoht on teoloogidele palju meelehärmi tekitanud ja sundinud filosoofegi kahtlema Absoluudi ülimas tarkuses, sest ega see nüüd küll ei näita absoluutselt targa olendi erilist tarkust - milles on viigipuu süüdi? Aga nimelt - ta ei olnud valmis. Viigipuu ülim kohus on olla valmis, et kui Looja juhtub maa peale tulema ja tahab oma jüngreid toitmaks marju noppida, oleksid need ka olemas ja ootel. Kuigi vabandavaid põhjusi võib olla hulganisti, Looja palge ees mingi vabandus ei loe.
Viigipuu vastutuse puhul peaks seega tegu olema lihtsalt tavalise võrdumiga, mis kajastab vajadust valvsuseks: ärge valvake mitte nagu viigipuu, sest te ei tea, millal on aeg käes. Et kui juba viigipuuga, kes oma kohust ei täida, juhtub nii, mis siis veel inimestel oodata, kes oma Issandat ära ei tunne. Kes oma missiooni hülgab. Kes ülimat kohust ei täida. Miks ei peaks viigipuu vastutus Absoluudi silmis olema samaväärne inimese vastutusega? Kuigi antropotsentristlikust seisukohast võib seda olla raske aktsepteerida, kuid eks ole ju inimene Jumala tööriist, Tammsaare järgi Jumala kraavilabidas. Mis vahet on Jumala viigipuul ja kraavilabidal? Kas peaks üks kraavilabidas olema enamat kui viigipuu? Pigem vastupidi.
Looja lõi oma ettenägejalikkuses viigipuu eesmärgipäraselt nagu inimesegi. Viigipuu ent unustas jumaliku ettemääratuse ja hakkas kandma vilja sel ajal kui iga teinegi, õitsedes nagu lilleke väljal. Samuti võib Looja inimese ära kutsuda, kui see oma ülesandega hakkama ei saa.
Mis ülesandega? Meie maailm on kõige tõenäolisemalt ainus paradiis, ja inimene on selle paradiisiaia valvur. Kuidas on inimene toime tulnud? Tuleb tõdeda, et kahjuks nii kehvasti kui peaaegu üldse võimalik, kuigi ilmselt saanuks veel ka palju halvemini minna. Kuivõrd inimkonna sisehääl vaikib (see nn jumalik sisehääl, südametunnistus, mis nõuab moraalset käitumist), jääb üle oodata häält väljastpoolt, s.o Absoluudi kõnet. Sest süsteemisiseselt ei saa ennast ümber kujundada. Religioosse maailmapildi pooldaja ütleks, et käes on aeg oodata uut ilmutust. Kuradi saatmine maa peale inimeseks, mida käsitleb Tammsaare - eks see ongi sekkumine väljastpoolt. Umbes nõnda võis probleem Tammsaare ees seista.
Kirjutades kuradist, kes on tulnud maailma, et inimesele uut võimalust pakkuda, pidi autoril silme ees seisma teatud tulevikuvisioon. Nagu meil kõigil.
Tammsaare probleemikäsitusel inimese ebatäiuslikkusest on leida ühist n-ö viigipuu vastutuse temaatikaga. Jeesus mäletatavasti neab viljatu viigipuu: „„Ei tule sinust enam iialgi vilja!“; „Ärgu iialgi enam ükski sinust vilja söögu!“, ja viigipuu kuivab (Mk 11:13; 20-21; vrd ka Mt 21:19-21). See kirjakoht on teoloogidele palju meelehärmi tekitanud ja sundinud filosoofegi kahtlema Absoluudi ülimas tarkuses, sest ega see nüüd küll ei näita absoluutselt targa olendi erilist tarkust - milles on viigipuu süüdi? Aga nimelt - ta ei olnud valmis. Viigipuu ülim kohus on olla valmis, et kui Looja juhtub maa peale tulema ja tahab oma jüngreid toitmaks marju noppida, oleksid need ka olemas ja ootel. Kuigi vabandavaid põhjusi võib olla hulganisti, Looja palge ees mingi vabandus ei loe.
Viigipuu vastutuse puhul peaks seega tegu olema lihtsalt tavalise võrdumiga, mis kajastab vajadust valvsuseks: ärge valvake mitte nagu viigipuu, sest te ei tea, millal on aeg käes. Et kui juba viigipuuga, kes oma kohust ei täida, juhtub nii, mis siis veel inimestel oodata, kes oma Issandat ära ei tunne. Kes oma missiooni hülgab. Kes ülimat kohust ei täida. Miks ei peaks viigipuu vastutus Absoluudi silmis olema samaväärne inimese vastutusega? Kuigi antropotsentristlikust seisukohast võib seda olla raske aktsepteerida, kuid eks ole ju inimene Jumala tööriist, Tammsaare järgi Jumala kraavilabidas. Mis vahet on Jumala viigipuul ja kraavilabidal? Kas peaks üks kraavilabidas olema enamat kui viigipuu? Pigem vastupidi.
Looja lõi oma ettenägejalikkuses viigipuu eesmärgipäraselt nagu inimesegi. Viigipuu ent unustas jumaliku ettemääratuse ja hakkas kandma vilja sel ajal kui iga teinegi, õitsedes nagu lilleke väljal. Samuti võib Looja inimese ära kutsuda, kui see oma ülesandega hakkama ei saa.
Mis ülesandega? Meie maailm on kõige tõenäolisemalt ainus paradiis, ja inimene on selle paradiisiaia valvur. Kuidas on inimene toime tulnud? Tuleb tõdeda, et kahjuks nii kehvasti kui peaaegu üldse võimalik, kuigi ilmselt saanuks veel ka palju halvemini minna. Kuivõrd inimkonna sisehääl vaikib (see nn jumalik sisehääl, südametunnistus, mis nõuab moraalset käitumist), jääb üle oodata häält väljastpoolt, s.o Absoluudi kõnet. Sest süsteemisiseselt ei saa ennast ümber kujundada. Religioosse maailmapildi pooldaja ütleks, et käes on aeg oodata uut ilmutust. Kuradi saatmine maa peale inimeseks, mida käsitleb Tammsaare - eks see ongi sekkumine väljastpoolt. Umbes nõnda võis probleem Tammsaare ees seista.
Kirjutades kuradist, kes on tulnud maailma, et inimesele uut võimalust pakkuda, pidi autoril silme ees seisma teatud tulevikuvisioon. Nagu meil kõigil.
28 October 2016 16:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vanapagana missioon
Mis toimus? Ühel iga-aastasel harilikul hingede-päeval taevas, kui tavaliselt tehti kokkuvõtet, kui palju hingi pääseb paradiisi, kui palju läheb põrgu, pidi Vanapagan ootama kaua ukse taga. Solvunult hakkas ta lõpuks „rusikaga kõigest jõust taguma, nii et kogu taevaalune kõmises, nagu ähvardaks kõu siniselgest õhust“. Peetrus selgitas lõpuks Vanapaganale, et leping ei maksa enam, on ühepoolselt ära muudetud. Mis aga kõige tähtsam - lunastus ei loe enam (vt kirikuõpetaja ja Jürka dialoog: „Aga, armas hing, kuhu jääb siis lunastus?“ - „Peetrus ütles, see ei loe änam“ - ja õpetaja läks valgeks kui lubi (Tammsaare 1985, 40, 98).
Taevas tahab teada, kas inimene tahab või taha õndsaks saada, kas võib või ei või õndsaks saada. Hingede saamises on uus kord ja tingimused: Vanapagan peab sureliku inimesena maa peale minema ja elama nõnda, et saab õndsaks - siis on tal „õigus hingede saamiseks igavesest ajast igavesti“. Aga kui ta inimesena surres läheb põrgu, kaotab hingede saamise õiguse igaveseks ajaks ja isegi varemalt saadud hinged nõutakse tagasi. Kui inimene on tõesti nõnda loodud, et ta üldse ei või õndsaks saada, s.t kui inimese loomine on äpardunud, tuleb ta tagasi võtta. Peetruse sõnul taevas ei heideta nalja: „See tähendab seda, et inimsugu, nagu ta on, lastakse hävineda ja olnud inimeste hinged kogutakse taevast ning põrgust kokku ja saadetakse sinna tagasi, kust nad on tulnud.“
Mis tähendaks kogu seniste ürituste, pingutuste ja saavutuste hukku, tõdeb Vanapagan nukralt. Seega tuleb tal kiirustada, et õigeks ajaks maha saada, et inimsugu ei lõpeks enne maa pealt otsa. Tema missioon on inimesena tõendada, „et mitte jumal oma loomisega pole äpardunud, vaid et inimesed äparduvad oma eluga ja et nõnda on õigus ning kohus, kui nende hinged lähevad põrgu“. Vanapaganal on kõik kaalul, kuid mitte ainult temal, „vaid ka meil taevas“, täpsustab Peetrus. Vanapagan ütleb maa pealt naasnuna, „et kui laostub põrgu, siis on ka paradiisi päevad loetud, sest inimene huvitub rohkem hirmust kui õndsusest“.
Tuleb nii välja, et jumal saadab kuradi maailma päästma. Vanapaganast sõltub, kas võtta inimene tagasi või jätta. Elanuks Tammsaare üle sõja- ja küüditamisõudused, Saksa kultuurkeskuste hävingu ja Tallinna pommitamise, teadvustanuks ta miljonid tapetud ja hukkunud, tuumapommi inimkatsetused ja geenimanipulatsioonid, jõudnuks ta võimalik et järeldusele: tagasikutsumisprotsess on käivitunud.
Mis toimus? Ühel iga-aastasel harilikul hingede-päeval taevas, kui tavaliselt tehti kokkuvõtet, kui palju hingi pääseb paradiisi, kui palju läheb põrgu, pidi Vanapagan ootama kaua ukse taga. Solvunult hakkas ta lõpuks „rusikaga kõigest jõust taguma, nii et kogu taevaalune kõmises, nagu ähvardaks kõu siniselgest õhust“. Peetrus selgitas lõpuks Vanapaganale, et leping ei maksa enam, on ühepoolselt ära muudetud. Mis aga kõige tähtsam - lunastus ei loe enam (vt kirikuõpetaja ja Jürka dialoog: „Aga, armas hing, kuhu jääb siis lunastus?“ - „Peetrus ütles, see ei loe änam“ - ja õpetaja läks valgeks kui lubi (Tammsaare 1985, 40, 98).
Taevas tahab teada, kas inimene tahab või taha õndsaks saada, kas võib või ei või õndsaks saada. Hingede saamises on uus kord ja tingimused: Vanapagan peab sureliku inimesena maa peale minema ja elama nõnda, et saab õndsaks - siis on tal „õigus hingede saamiseks igavesest ajast igavesti“. Aga kui ta inimesena surres läheb põrgu, kaotab hingede saamise õiguse igaveseks ajaks ja isegi varemalt saadud hinged nõutakse tagasi. Kui inimene on tõesti nõnda loodud, et ta üldse ei või õndsaks saada, s.t kui inimese loomine on äpardunud, tuleb ta tagasi võtta. Peetruse sõnul taevas ei heideta nalja: „See tähendab seda, et inimsugu, nagu ta on, lastakse hävineda ja olnud inimeste hinged kogutakse taevast ning põrgust kokku ja saadetakse sinna tagasi, kust nad on tulnud.“
Mis tähendaks kogu seniste ürituste, pingutuste ja saavutuste hukku, tõdeb Vanapagan nukralt. Seega tuleb tal kiirustada, et õigeks ajaks maha saada, et inimsugu ei lõpeks enne maa pealt otsa. Tema missioon on inimesena tõendada, „et mitte jumal oma loomisega pole äpardunud, vaid et inimesed äparduvad oma eluga ja et nõnda on õigus ning kohus, kui nende hinged lähevad põrgu“. Vanapaganal on kõik kaalul, kuid mitte ainult temal, „vaid ka meil taevas“, täpsustab Peetrus. Vanapagan ütleb maa pealt naasnuna, „et kui laostub põrgu, siis on ka paradiisi päevad loetud, sest inimene huvitub rohkem hirmust kui õndsusest“.
Tuleb nii välja, et jumal saadab kuradi maailma päästma. Vanapaganast sõltub, kas võtta inimene tagasi või jätta. Elanuks Tammsaare üle sõja- ja küüditamisõudused, Saksa kultuurkeskuste hävingu ja Tallinna pommitamise, teadvustanuks ta miljonid tapetud ja hukkunud, tuumapommi inimkatsetused ja geenimanipulatsioonid, jõudnuks ta võimalik et järeldusele: tagasikutsumisprotsess on käivitunud.
28 October 2016 16:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jumal kahtleb, kurat kõhkleb
Oma pearomaani pealkirja on Tammsaare võtnud Piiblist, kus räägitakse tõe ja õiguse teest; tões ja õiguses elutee käimisest. Tõde ja õigus on Jumala kätetööd (Ps 111:7-8) - nagu inimenegi. Tammsaare võrdleb inimest jumala kraavilabidaga. “Tõe ja õiguse” 5. köite 9. peatükis pöördub vana Andres Indreku poole: „Sina ei taha teadagi, mis labidas sinust arvab. Aga miks siis jumal peaks teada tahtma, mis inimene temast arvab, kas ta usaldab ja usub teda või mitte? On’s inimene jumala ees rohkem kui kraavilabidas?“
Tammsaare jumalal on tõsiseid etteheiteid inimesele. Ta ei ole oma käepikendusega rahul. Aga mida ühest labidast ikka tahta. Miks peaks teda huvitama, mida üks labidas tunneb, mida mõtleb? Siiski, jumal saadab kuradi maa peale selgitama, milles asi, nagu oli varem Poja saatnud (et inimesed ta iseenda päästmiseks risti naelutaksid, vt Tammsaare 1988, lk 603). Kas on inimene ebaõnnestunud? Kas on inimesel üldse võimalik maa peal õndsaks saada? Ehk tuleb ta hoopis tagasi võtta?
Jumal, kuigi kõiketeadja, on hakanud inimeses kahtlema (s.o iseoma kätetöös ja iseendas, nagu sedastab Vanapagan), kas inimene on üldse nõnda loodud, et ta võiks õndsaks saada. Ja kui ei ole, mis õigusega saadetakse ta siis pärast surma põrgu?
Lähetada Kurat maa peale inimeseks on ohtlik ettevõtmine, ka Looja enda jaoks. Loomistöö ebaõnnestumine võib seada kahtluse alla Jumala kõikvõimsuse - sest sellest võib johtuda, et Ta on ise ebaõnnestunud. Vanapagana missiooni luhtumine tähendaks aga ka seda, et asjatult läks Ta (resp. saatis oma Poja) maa peale lunastust tooma, inimesi õndsaks tegema. Võrreldavat võimalust pakub Kuratki, kuid nüüd on asi kraadi võrra ohtlikum: juhtub Vanapagan ebaõnnestuma, kaob inimsugu sootumaks.
Oma pearomaani pealkirja on Tammsaare võtnud Piiblist, kus räägitakse tõe ja õiguse teest; tões ja õiguses elutee käimisest. Tõde ja õigus on Jumala kätetööd (Ps 111:7-8) - nagu inimenegi. Tammsaare võrdleb inimest jumala kraavilabidaga. “Tõe ja õiguse” 5. köite 9. peatükis pöördub vana Andres Indreku poole: „Sina ei taha teadagi, mis labidas sinust arvab. Aga miks siis jumal peaks teada tahtma, mis inimene temast arvab, kas ta usaldab ja usub teda või mitte? On’s inimene jumala ees rohkem kui kraavilabidas?“
Tammsaare jumalal on tõsiseid etteheiteid inimesele. Ta ei ole oma käepikendusega rahul. Aga mida ühest labidast ikka tahta. Miks peaks teda huvitama, mida üks labidas tunneb, mida mõtleb? Siiski, jumal saadab kuradi maa peale selgitama, milles asi, nagu oli varem Poja saatnud (et inimesed ta iseenda päästmiseks risti naelutaksid, vt Tammsaare 1988, lk 603). Kas on inimene ebaõnnestunud? Kas on inimesel üldse võimalik maa peal õndsaks saada? Ehk tuleb ta hoopis tagasi võtta?
Jumal, kuigi kõiketeadja, on hakanud inimeses kahtlema (s.o iseoma kätetöös ja iseendas, nagu sedastab Vanapagan), kas inimene on üldse nõnda loodud, et ta võiks õndsaks saada. Ja kui ei ole, mis õigusega saadetakse ta siis pärast surma põrgu?
Lähetada Kurat maa peale inimeseks on ohtlik ettevõtmine, ka Looja enda jaoks. Loomistöö ebaõnnestumine võib seada kahtluse alla Jumala kõikvõimsuse - sest sellest võib johtuda, et Ta on ise ebaõnnestunud. Vanapagana missiooni luhtumine tähendaks aga ka seda, et asjatult läks Ta (resp. saatis oma Poja) maa peale lunastust tooma, inimesi õndsaks tegema. Võrreldavat võimalust pakub Kuratki, kuid nüüd on asi kraadi võrra ohtlikum: juhtub Vanapagan ebaõnnestuma, kaob inimsugu sootumaks.
28 October 2016 16:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lunastusetuse paine
Tammsaare heitles suure osa oma teadlikust elust lunastuse probleemiga, otsekui vanatestamentlikud Andres ja Jaakob oma Jumalaga. Lunastusetuse paine rõhus tema meeli pikki aastaid: 1920. aastal ilmus artikkel „Lunastus“, 1926. aastal „Tõe ja õiguse“ I osa, 1937. aastal teine artikkel „Lunastus“, 1939. aastal romaan „Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan“ - kui nimetada põhilisemat. Esimene „Lunastuse“ artikkel, 1920, kinnitab: „Inimesele peab ütlema: ei ole sul muud lunastajat kui sina ise, tahad sa minna taevasse või maapealsesse paradiisi“ (Tammsaare 1988, 605). Teises artiklis, 1937, võtab autor kaaluda võimalust: kas päästjaks ilmub mõistus? Sedastades samas, et just inimlik mõistus on loonud selle olukorra, millest otsime väljapääsu. Tehnika nõiakeerd ei saa pakkuda päästet. Kas on tapamasinates, tapmises, tapmiskires tõesti inimese lunastus, küsib ta retooriliselt (Tammsaare 1990, 223-224).
Paari aasta pärast, kui ilmus ühekordse läbikirjutamise järel romaan „Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan“, oli Tammsaarel lunastu(setu)se temaatika käsitlemisel esitada järeldus - lunastus ei loe enam. Järelikult: inimsoo elus on alanud saatuslik ajajärk ega ole teada, kuhupoole Saatuse kaalukausid kalduvad. Kui aga Jumala pääste enam ei kehti, siis kelle? Kui mõistus ei suuda päästet pakkuda, mis jääb üle? Loogiline siis, et Kurat. Kristus ja Kurat on Jumala lapsed mõlemad. Tammsaare jätab lõpliku seisukohavõtu kaasaja lunastaja küsimuses siiski lahtiseks, kuid väidetavalt kavatses ta teema juurde tagasi pöörduda (Tammsaare 1985, 231).
Tammsaare kuulutus käib Looja kahtluste ja Kuradi kõhkluste, aga kas ka peatse kuradiriigi kohta (vrd paarikümne aasta pärast käibele tulev mõiste ’kurjuse impeerium’), on veel küsimus. Tammsaare viitas tõenäoliselt pigem maailmalõpu võimalusele, kuid mitte viimse kohtupäeva ja saabuva jumala- resp. kuradiriigi tähenduses, vaid n-ö lõplikus variandis - et ongi kõik. Lõpp. Vaikus. Igavik. Lunastusetuse paine pole päris see, mis lootusetuse paine. Lootusetuses peitub ometi ivake lootust, ja kui õieti järele mõelda, siis väljendab just lootusetus suurimat lootust. Lunastusetus ent on lõplik.
Miks ei avaldanud autor ise oma teost tervikuna, ilmutades vaid pooliku tõe? Ilmselt arvas ta, et aeg pole veel küps. Ei ta tahtnud oma rahvast hirmutada ega olnud vahest ka ise kindel, et lood nii hullusti on. Tõsi on - asjad polnud romaani kirjutamise ajal tõepoolest nii hullud, vaid palju hullemad, nagu tagantjärele tarkusest saab öelda.
1939 oli oluline aasta: Tammsaare ilmutas nägemuse Kuradi tulekust maa peale, Aadu Hint kirjutas Kristuse tulekust maa peale (“Tuli Jeesus...”, aprill 1939). Kaks muud meest, üks Berliinis, teine Moskvas, ehitasid kumbki oma nägemuse kohast paradiisi maa peale, jagades mõjusfääre. Lõppes see lugu põrguga maa peal. Tammsaare jõudis enne ära surra, Hindist sai sotsialistlik realist. Hint kirjutab: “Tuli Jeesus, käis lihtsa mehena ringi mööda maad ja tahtis näha, kuidas inimesed kannavad oma risti”. Läks kartulivõtjate ja vabrikutööliste juurde, kõrtsidesse ja kannatamisnädalal külma kirikusse. Noor, kõmiseva häälega õpetaja ütles seal võimsat jutlust suurest raskest ristist, mida Inimesepoeg pidi kandma: “Jeesus aga nägi õpetaja kuuel midagi kaunisti sädelevat ning ta astus lähemale. Nüüdnegi õpetaja kandis risti - see oli üsna tibatillukene, oli kullast ning ostes en détail maksis kr. 80.-” (Hint 1939, 367-369).
Sel ajal alanud/jätkunud arenguid ei võinud keegi ette näha, kui ta just Jumal või Kurat või kutsutud prohvet polnud. Kas Anton Hanseni geniaalne vaim aimas ette, et kätte on jõudnud pöördepunkt inimkonna ajaloos, võrreldav sellega, kui Jeesus Kristus tuli maa peale lunastust tooma? Läks mööda mingi vaevane viis aastat ja inimesed olidki leidnud esmakordselt üles võimaluse iseend ja oma maailma hävitada. Ega see oht pole kadunud veel, pigem vastupidi - lõpplahendust pakkuvaid võimalusi on lihtsalt rohkem tekkinud. Inimkond tormab progressi nimel otseteed kaduvikku.
Tammsaare heitles suure osa oma teadlikust elust lunastuse probleemiga, otsekui vanatestamentlikud Andres ja Jaakob oma Jumalaga. Lunastusetuse paine rõhus tema meeli pikki aastaid: 1920. aastal ilmus artikkel „Lunastus“, 1926. aastal „Tõe ja õiguse“ I osa, 1937. aastal teine artikkel „Lunastus“, 1939. aastal romaan „Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan“ - kui nimetada põhilisemat. Esimene „Lunastuse“ artikkel, 1920, kinnitab: „Inimesele peab ütlema: ei ole sul muud lunastajat kui sina ise, tahad sa minna taevasse või maapealsesse paradiisi“ (Tammsaare 1988, 605). Teises artiklis, 1937, võtab autor kaaluda võimalust: kas päästjaks ilmub mõistus? Sedastades samas, et just inimlik mõistus on loonud selle olukorra, millest otsime väljapääsu. Tehnika nõiakeerd ei saa pakkuda päästet. Kas on tapamasinates, tapmises, tapmiskires tõesti inimese lunastus, küsib ta retooriliselt (Tammsaare 1990, 223-224).
Paari aasta pärast, kui ilmus ühekordse läbikirjutamise järel romaan „Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan“, oli Tammsaarel lunastu(setu)se temaatika käsitlemisel esitada järeldus - lunastus ei loe enam. Järelikult: inimsoo elus on alanud saatuslik ajajärk ega ole teada, kuhupoole Saatuse kaalukausid kalduvad. Kui aga Jumala pääste enam ei kehti, siis kelle? Kui mõistus ei suuda päästet pakkuda, mis jääb üle? Loogiline siis, et Kurat. Kristus ja Kurat on Jumala lapsed mõlemad. Tammsaare jätab lõpliku seisukohavõtu kaasaja lunastaja küsimuses siiski lahtiseks, kuid väidetavalt kavatses ta teema juurde tagasi pöörduda (Tammsaare 1985, 231).
Tammsaare kuulutus käib Looja kahtluste ja Kuradi kõhkluste, aga kas ka peatse kuradiriigi kohta (vrd paarikümne aasta pärast käibele tulev mõiste ’kurjuse impeerium’), on veel küsimus. Tammsaare viitas tõenäoliselt pigem maailmalõpu võimalusele, kuid mitte viimse kohtupäeva ja saabuva jumala- resp. kuradiriigi tähenduses, vaid n-ö lõplikus variandis - et ongi kõik. Lõpp. Vaikus. Igavik. Lunastusetuse paine pole päris see, mis lootusetuse paine. Lootusetuses peitub ometi ivake lootust, ja kui õieti järele mõelda, siis väljendab just lootusetus suurimat lootust. Lunastusetus ent on lõplik.
Miks ei avaldanud autor ise oma teost tervikuna, ilmutades vaid pooliku tõe? Ilmselt arvas ta, et aeg pole veel küps. Ei ta tahtnud oma rahvast hirmutada ega olnud vahest ka ise kindel, et lood nii hullusti on. Tõsi on - asjad polnud romaani kirjutamise ajal tõepoolest nii hullud, vaid palju hullemad, nagu tagantjärele tarkusest saab öelda.
1939 oli oluline aasta: Tammsaare ilmutas nägemuse Kuradi tulekust maa peale, Aadu Hint kirjutas Kristuse tulekust maa peale (“Tuli Jeesus...”, aprill 1939). Kaks muud meest, üks Berliinis, teine Moskvas, ehitasid kumbki oma nägemuse kohast paradiisi maa peale, jagades mõjusfääre. Lõppes see lugu põrguga maa peal. Tammsaare jõudis enne ära surra, Hindist sai sotsialistlik realist. Hint kirjutab: “Tuli Jeesus, käis lihtsa mehena ringi mööda maad ja tahtis näha, kuidas inimesed kannavad oma risti”. Läks kartulivõtjate ja vabrikutööliste juurde, kõrtsidesse ja kannatamisnädalal külma kirikusse. Noor, kõmiseva häälega õpetaja ütles seal võimsat jutlust suurest raskest ristist, mida Inimesepoeg pidi kandma: “Jeesus aga nägi õpetaja kuuel midagi kaunisti sädelevat ning ta astus lähemale. Nüüdnegi õpetaja kandis risti - see oli üsna tibatillukene, oli kullast ning ostes en détail maksis kr. 80.-” (Hint 1939, 367-369).
Sel ajal alanud/jätkunud arenguid ei võinud keegi ette näha, kui ta just Jumal või Kurat või kutsutud prohvet polnud. Kas Anton Hanseni geniaalne vaim aimas ette, et kätte on jõudnud pöördepunkt inimkonna ajaloos, võrreldav sellega, kui Jeesus Kristus tuli maa peale lunastust tooma? Läks mööda mingi vaevane viis aastat ja inimesed olidki leidnud esmakordselt üles võimaluse iseend ja oma maailma hävitada. Ega see oht pole kadunud veel, pigem vastupidi - lõpplahendust pakkuvaid võimalusi on lihtsalt rohkem tekkinud. Inimkond tormab progressi nimel otseteed kaduvikku.
28 October 2016 16:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tammsaare testament - Uusim Testament
Karl Kello
„Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan“, 1939, oli määratud jääma Tammsaare n-ö päranduseks järeltulevatele põlvedele. Üsna üksmeelselt peetakse seda ühiskonnakriitiliseks romaaniks. Tammsaare kummaski romaanis, nii „Tões ja õiguses“ kui „Põrgupõhja uues Vanapaganas“ nähakse ülesehitava, paatosliku töö paroodiat. Kuid väites näiteks, mida ka väga autoriteetsel tasemel tehaksegi, et muinasjutukangelased Kaval-Ants ja Vanapagan kehastavad lihtsalt globaalprobleemi - inimese ekspluateerimist inimese poolt ja selle tagajärgi, alahindame ilmselgelt Tammsaaret. Sest eelkõige on „Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan“ siiski filosoofiline teos - ilmaelu resp. argielu müütiline käsitlus.
Võimalik, et me pole suutnud mõista Tammsaare testamendi tegelikku tähendust. „Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan“ on otsekui Uue Testamendi B-variant, Uusim Testament, või alternatiivne evangeelium - Vanapagana & Kaval-Antsu evangeelium. Tammsaarel pole kuulutada, tõsi küll, mitte just eriti suurt rõõmusõnumit (evangeelium ’hea sõnum; rõõmusõnum’). Uues Testamendis saab Jumal inimeseks, Tammsaare variandis Kurat, kes tuleb päästma inimsugu. „Põrgupõhja uue Vanapagana“ proloog ja epiloog teevad teosest siiski pigem testamendi. Saata Kurat maa peale Lunastajaks - mitte igaüks ei tule selle peale. Küllap tundus tulemus autorile endalegi liialt radikaalne. Tema eluajal ilmus teos proloogi-epiloogita. Inimene, kahtlus on sinu nimi. Kahtlusi külvab Kurat.
Kui Uus Testament käsitleb Jeesus Kristuse maapealset elu ja õpetust, surma ja ülestõusmist, sh Jeesuse kuulutust peatsest jumalariigist, siis Tammsaare Testamendi aines on Kuradi maapealne elu ja õpetus, surm ja surmajärgne elu-olu.
Tammsaare loomingust on igale eestlasele pähe kulunud väljend: „Tee tööd ja näe vaeva, siis tuleb armastus“. Mida igal võimalusel tsiteeritakse, väites samas, et see pole nii ja ega autor nii ikka päris ei mõelnud. Sest eestlane on tööloom - ja paras talle. Tammsaare mõtles siiski pigem seda, et tööd tehes ja vaeva nähes valdab sind jumalik armastus - Jumal armastab sind, s.o saad õndsaks resp. lunastatud (vt 1Jh 4: Jumal on armastus; armastus on selles, et Jumal armastab meid). Töö ja vaeva temaatika juurde pöördub Tammsaare tagasi ka oma viimaseks jäänud romaanis, aga sedapuhku saab selle läbi juba õndsaks (siiski teatud kahtlusega - kui ikka saab), mis tähendaks otsekohest lunastatust.
Pole küll ka võimatu, et Tammsaare nägemus jumalikust armastusest haakub praegu moodsa neuroteoloogiaga, mis näeb müstilises/religioosses kogemuses inimese seksuaalse arengu, soojätkamise kõrvalprodukti. Ajukeemia olevat müstilise ja seksuaalse kogemuse puhul väidetavalt samane, mistõttu jumalik ja erootiline armastus ei erinevatki teineteisest niiväga.
Kas ka töötegemisest ja vaevanägemisest võib saada rahulduse, mis võrreldav seksuaalsega? Selline probleemipüstitus oleks Tammsaare puhul siiski liiasti lihtsustav. Tänapäeva inimene on võimalik et oma ihuvajaduste rahuldamisega sedavõrd hõivatud, et unustab ära armastuse hingelise ja vaimse poole; et lisaks seksuaalsele on olemas ka vaimne ja jumalik armastus.
Kas Tammsaare viitas, et ka töötegemist ja vaevanägemist võib armastada kui oma lapsi ja lähedasi sõpru, nagu venda-õde, isa-ema? On muidugi veel üks armastus, mida siinkirjutaja nimetaks agressiivseks armastuseks, sest see nõuab tingimusteta vastuarmastust - see on Jumala valitud rahva armastus väärusu kütkeis vaevlevate naabrite vastu. Mis ei luba mingeid järeleandmisi teha ega võimalda mingilgi moel loobuda pühast missioonist päästa inimsugu.
http://www.kirikiri.ee/article.php3?id_article=546
Karl Kello
„Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan“, 1939, oli määratud jääma Tammsaare n-ö päranduseks järeltulevatele põlvedele. Üsna üksmeelselt peetakse seda ühiskonnakriitiliseks romaaniks. Tammsaare kummaski romaanis, nii „Tões ja õiguses“ kui „Põrgupõhja uues Vanapaganas“ nähakse ülesehitava, paatosliku töö paroodiat. Kuid väites näiteks, mida ka väga autoriteetsel tasemel tehaksegi, et muinasjutukangelased Kaval-Ants ja Vanapagan kehastavad lihtsalt globaalprobleemi - inimese ekspluateerimist inimese poolt ja selle tagajärgi, alahindame ilmselgelt Tammsaaret. Sest eelkõige on „Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan“ siiski filosoofiline teos - ilmaelu resp. argielu müütiline käsitlus.
Võimalik, et me pole suutnud mõista Tammsaare testamendi tegelikku tähendust. „Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan“ on otsekui Uue Testamendi B-variant, Uusim Testament, või alternatiivne evangeelium - Vanapagana & Kaval-Antsu evangeelium. Tammsaarel pole kuulutada, tõsi küll, mitte just eriti suurt rõõmusõnumit (evangeelium ’hea sõnum; rõõmusõnum’). Uues Testamendis saab Jumal inimeseks, Tammsaare variandis Kurat, kes tuleb päästma inimsugu. „Põrgupõhja uue Vanapagana“ proloog ja epiloog teevad teosest siiski pigem testamendi. Saata Kurat maa peale Lunastajaks - mitte igaüks ei tule selle peale. Küllap tundus tulemus autorile endalegi liialt radikaalne. Tema eluajal ilmus teos proloogi-epiloogita. Inimene, kahtlus on sinu nimi. Kahtlusi külvab Kurat.
Kui Uus Testament käsitleb Jeesus Kristuse maapealset elu ja õpetust, surma ja ülestõusmist, sh Jeesuse kuulutust peatsest jumalariigist, siis Tammsaare Testamendi aines on Kuradi maapealne elu ja õpetus, surm ja surmajärgne elu-olu.
Tammsaare loomingust on igale eestlasele pähe kulunud väljend: „Tee tööd ja näe vaeva, siis tuleb armastus“. Mida igal võimalusel tsiteeritakse, väites samas, et see pole nii ja ega autor nii ikka päris ei mõelnud. Sest eestlane on tööloom - ja paras talle. Tammsaare mõtles siiski pigem seda, et tööd tehes ja vaeva nähes valdab sind jumalik armastus - Jumal armastab sind, s.o saad õndsaks resp. lunastatud (vt 1Jh 4: Jumal on armastus; armastus on selles, et Jumal armastab meid). Töö ja vaeva temaatika juurde pöördub Tammsaare tagasi ka oma viimaseks jäänud romaanis, aga sedapuhku saab selle läbi juba õndsaks (siiski teatud kahtlusega - kui ikka saab), mis tähendaks otsekohest lunastatust.
Pole küll ka võimatu, et Tammsaare nägemus jumalikust armastusest haakub praegu moodsa neuroteoloogiaga, mis näeb müstilises/religioosses kogemuses inimese seksuaalse arengu, soojätkamise kõrvalprodukti. Ajukeemia olevat müstilise ja seksuaalse kogemuse puhul väidetavalt samane, mistõttu jumalik ja erootiline armastus ei erinevatki teineteisest niiväga.
Kas ka töötegemisest ja vaevanägemisest võib saada rahulduse, mis võrreldav seksuaalsega? Selline probleemipüstitus oleks Tammsaare puhul siiski liiasti lihtsustav. Tänapäeva inimene on võimalik et oma ihuvajaduste rahuldamisega sedavõrd hõivatud, et unustab ära armastuse hingelise ja vaimse poole; et lisaks seksuaalsele on olemas ka vaimne ja jumalik armastus.
Kas Tammsaare viitas, et ka töötegemist ja vaevanägemist võib armastada kui oma lapsi ja lähedasi sõpru, nagu venda-õde, isa-ema? On muidugi veel üks armastus, mida siinkirjutaja nimetaks agressiivseks armastuseks, sest see nõuab tingimusteta vastuarmastust - see on Jumala valitud rahva armastus väärusu kütkeis vaevlevate naabrite vastu. Mis ei luba mingeid järeleandmisi teha ega võimalda mingilgi moel loobuda pühast missioonist päästa inimsugu.
http://www.kirikiri.ee/article.php3?id_article=546
http://www.kirikiri.ee/article.php3?id_article=546
28 October 2016 16:24
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
teiste pilte avaldada suht mõtetu kui on nii palju põnevamat ja kasulikumat,
kahju, et oma oskusi sedasi raisatakse
kahju, et oma oskusi sedasi raisatakse
28 October 2016 16:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Osatamine targutamises toetus paljuski Tuglase autoriteedile, kes ei saanud konkurendi teostega kontakti. Mis lähtub isikuist, mis ajastuist: tema marginaalne pahurus võttis viimaks lausa marksistlik-ateistliku süüdistuse ilme: „Miks õiendavad Tammsaare tegelased ta suurteose viie köite vältel nõnda jumala ja usundiga? Lehekülgede kaupa targutusi, just nagu vene müstikuil-jumalaotsijail. Seda ei eeldaks kuidagi ei autori enese taevavõõras maailmavaade ega väikekodanlikult-ratsionalistlik ümbrus. Meie luteriusulise kasvatusega rahvas pole kunagi suuremat huvi tundnud usuliste küsimuste kallal juurdlemiseks. Ja haritlaskond (isegi kui ta hulgas on leidunud „usklikke”) on otse häbenenud neist avalikult rääkida. Kõik on läinud kulunud šablooni, kord tõeksvõetud sõnade korrutamise teed. On piisanud piiblist ja katekismusest. Pole vajatud mingit „usundilist filosoofiat” või „isikliku vahekorra selgitamist jumalaga”. Tõsi, on leidunud ju usulahke, kuid needki on jälginud dogma karjateid. Ja lisaks, Tammsaare ei kirjelda ju eraldi neid, vaid hoopis ilmlikku ühiskonda. Ja siin võtab heitlus „jumala” mõiste ümber otse keskse tähenduse. See kistakse ikka asjasse, selle ümber targutavad kõik – kuni revolutsionäärideni jutumärkides või ilma nendeta. Targutavad tüütuseni. // Kas on Dostojevski mõju Tammsaaresse ometi nii suur?” (Tuglas 1959: 611–612.)
Tuglase ja tema nietzscheaanliku ajastu rütmi ning sümmeetriapõhist, energeetilist stiiliteooriat-praktikat on eritlenud Jaan Undusk artiklis „Sisu ja vormi dialektikat Friedebert Tuglase käsitluses”. „„Ilma rütmi elemendita ei või olla kunstiteost”,” tsiteerib Undusk Tuglast, „„olgu see muusikas või tantsus, kirjanduses või arhitektuuris”” (Undusk 1986: 134). Ideaalseks pidas Tuglas seesugust proosat, mis „„oma rütmiga aine õrnemale hingetõmbusele vastaks”” (Undusk 1986: 142). Varast, lühemate lausetega Tammsaaret me kirjanduslik paavst paraku sisu-energiliseks ei pidanud, ainult vormiliseks simuleerijaks (Undusk 1986: 143).
Vrd Juhan Liivi luuletusega „Muusika”: „Kuskil peab alguskokkukõla olema, / kuskil suures looduses, varjul. / On tema vägevas laotuses, / täheringide kauguses, / on tema päikese sära sees, / lillekeses, metsakohinas, / emakõne südamemuusikas / või silmavees – / kuskil peab surematus olema, / kuskilt alguskokkukõla leitama: / kust oleks muidu inimese rinda / saanud ta – / muusika?”(Liiv, J. 1989: 238.)
Tammsaare arutlev-vaidlevate jadade kohatisi polaarsusi vahetavaid ringlainetusi on märganud ka Undusk, kes romaani „Ma armastasin sakslast” kohta kirjutab: „Vanaisa rabulistlikus süüdistusstrateegias torkab silma ringkaitse. See on Tammsaare targutajaile (nt õpetaja Maurus, Rudolf Ikka) üldisemaltki omane joon: alustatakse pihta mingist väitest ja jõutakse mõtet arendades ringiga – võib-olla et iseendalegi ootamatult – algse väite vastuväiteni, aga seda asjaolu märgates tehakse printsiibil „seda halvem faktidele” nägu, et nii peabki olema. Sedasama strateegiat kasutatakse romaanis ka Oskari nurka ajamiseks” (Undusk 2013: 315).
Dramaatiline Kõiv sidus eesti algupärase filosoofia võimaluse tammsaareliku mõttega. See lähtub tema targutuses eesti udusevõitu keelest ja meelest, milles isegi „ometi-tulevik” „on seesama mis minevik, on pime” (Kõiv 2005a: 161) – ehk „i g a v e n e k u l d n e m i n e v i k, mis paratamatult on tulevik, kuid tulevikuna see, et, ja ta niisugune ei pidanud olema” (Kõiv 2005a: 162). Segasevõitu jutust hoolimata huvitas analüütilist Kõivu aga ja ometi üldisem ajafilosoofiline ja rahvuspsühholoogiline potentsiaal – toona nii pikisilmi taga igatsetud „kuldse mineviku tagantvalgus, mis ei pimesta, vaid näitab” (Kõiv 2005a: 164). Nagu Kõiv hiljem märkis fragmendis „A. H. T. filosoofia”, tulevad meie filosoofia mõtted alati tagasi „tagasituleku” juurde, nii ka Tammsaare „ürgtõde, püsipunkt, mis teda hoiab: mõte läheb ja liigub ja jõuab iseendasse tagasi, s.t. teed otsides otsib ta teed tagasi ja ainult. // Kuid mingil juhul ei ole see Euroopast tuttav Igavene Tagasijõudmine, või, vähem veel, kuulus triaad – tees–antitees–süntees, tagurpidine edaspidisus, vastandite lepitused. // Sest lepitust pole ja ei otsitagi, vastandid jäävad, nagu nad on, nende vahel liigutakse ja ainus eesmärk on kadumaläinud „tagasi”. [---] // Tagasitulek algusesse, sinna, kus sa nüüd oled, sinna, kes sa nüüd oled, kus sa nüüd-see-oled-kes-sa-oled. Algus, mis ei ole maailma ega tee alguses, vaid lõpus, ja millel see-kõik püsib. Maailm on ehitatud lõpule, kuhu ta ükskord tagasi jõuab, kus ta alati ja igavesti on, s.t. oli. Absoluutne minevikufilosoofia” (Kõiv 2005b).
Huvitav on märkida, et selle korpuse andmetel kuulub aga (5274) sageduselt eesti keele sõnavormide esitosinasse sõnade ja(27 214), on (19 184), ei (13 810), et (12 314), ta (10 170), oli (8861), kui (8599), ka (6191), oma (5329), see (6114) järel – sõnade ma (4454), ning(4409), või(3310), kuid(2341) ees. Suuresti nõnda jääb see ka sõnade eri vormide üheks kokkuliitmisel: olema(44 904), ja(27 232), tema(21 850), see(18 441), mina (14 011), ei (13 813), et(12 318), kui (8600), mis(8230), saama (5894), oma (5738), aga (5276) – sina (5139), ise(4574), siis(4529), ning(4409), kes(4369), nii (3531), või (3374), kõik (3128), kuid(2306) ees.
Eestikeelsete veebilehtede infost koosneva korpuse etTenTen13 koostas firma Lexical Computing Ltd. 2013. aastal. Korpuse lemmatiseeris, märgistas ja ühestas OÜ Filosoft. Andmebaas on kättesaadav aadressil www.keeleveeb.ee ning programmi Sketch Engine (https://the.sketchengine.co.uk/auth/corpora/) kaudu. Ajakirjandustekstid moodustavad 29 %, foorumid ja blogid 23 %, teabetekstid 9 %, usulise ja poliitilise sisuga tekstid 4 % ja liigitamata tekstid 35 % (vt www2.keeleveeb.ee/dict/corpus/ettenten/about.html).
Tänan Margit Langemetsa veel töötlemisel olevate andmete vahendamise eest.
Sõnade arv on saadud loenduriga doc- või pdf-failidest (ja võivad sisaldada minimaalseid kõrvalekaldeid), aga/ometi esinemised tuvastasin otsingukäsu abil. Allikateks on andmebaasid Vikitekstid (http://et.wikisource.org/wiki), Digira (http://www.digiraamat.ee) või autori erakogu (skaneeringud).
Tuglase ja tema nietzscheaanliku ajastu rütmi ning sümmeetriapõhist, energeetilist stiiliteooriat-praktikat on eritlenud Jaan Undusk artiklis „Sisu ja vormi dialektikat Friedebert Tuglase käsitluses”. „„Ilma rütmi elemendita ei või olla kunstiteost”,” tsiteerib Undusk Tuglast, „„olgu see muusikas või tantsus, kirjanduses või arhitektuuris”” (Undusk 1986: 134). Ideaalseks pidas Tuglas seesugust proosat, mis „„oma rütmiga aine õrnemale hingetõmbusele vastaks”” (Undusk 1986: 142). Varast, lühemate lausetega Tammsaaret me kirjanduslik paavst paraku sisu-energiliseks ei pidanud, ainult vormiliseks simuleerijaks (Undusk 1986: 143).
Vrd Juhan Liivi luuletusega „Muusika”: „Kuskil peab alguskokkukõla olema, / kuskil suures looduses, varjul. / On tema vägevas laotuses, / täheringide kauguses, / on tema päikese sära sees, / lillekeses, metsakohinas, / emakõne südamemuusikas / või silmavees – / kuskil peab surematus olema, / kuskilt alguskokkukõla leitama: / kust oleks muidu inimese rinda / saanud ta – / muusika?”(Liiv, J. 1989: 238.)
Tammsaare arutlev-vaidlevate jadade kohatisi polaarsusi vahetavaid ringlainetusi on märganud ka Undusk, kes romaani „Ma armastasin sakslast” kohta kirjutab: „Vanaisa rabulistlikus süüdistusstrateegias torkab silma ringkaitse. See on Tammsaare targutajaile (nt õpetaja Maurus, Rudolf Ikka) üldisemaltki omane joon: alustatakse pihta mingist väitest ja jõutakse mõtet arendades ringiga – võib-olla et iseendalegi ootamatult – algse väite vastuväiteni, aga seda asjaolu märgates tehakse printsiibil „seda halvem faktidele” nägu, et nii peabki olema. Sedasama strateegiat kasutatakse romaanis ka Oskari nurka ajamiseks” (Undusk 2013: 315).
Dramaatiline Kõiv sidus eesti algupärase filosoofia võimaluse tammsaareliku mõttega. See lähtub tema targutuses eesti udusevõitu keelest ja meelest, milles isegi „ometi-tulevik” „on seesama mis minevik, on pime” (Kõiv 2005a: 161) – ehk „i g a v e n e k u l d n e m i n e v i k, mis paratamatult on tulevik, kuid tulevikuna see, et, ja ta niisugune ei pidanud olema” (Kõiv 2005a: 162). Segasevõitu jutust hoolimata huvitas analüütilist Kõivu aga ja ometi üldisem ajafilosoofiline ja rahvuspsühholoogiline potentsiaal – toona nii pikisilmi taga igatsetud „kuldse mineviku tagantvalgus, mis ei pimesta, vaid näitab” (Kõiv 2005a: 164). Nagu Kõiv hiljem märkis fragmendis „A. H. T. filosoofia”, tulevad meie filosoofia mõtted alati tagasi „tagasituleku” juurde, nii ka Tammsaare „ürgtõde, püsipunkt, mis teda hoiab: mõte läheb ja liigub ja jõuab iseendasse tagasi, s.t. teed otsides otsib ta teed tagasi ja ainult. // Kuid mingil juhul ei ole see Euroopast tuttav Igavene Tagasijõudmine, või, vähem veel, kuulus triaad – tees–antitees–süntees, tagurpidine edaspidisus, vastandite lepitused. // Sest lepitust pole ja ei otsitagi, vastandid jäävad, nagu nad on, nende vahel liigutakse ja ainus eesmärk on kadumaläinud „tagasi”. [---] // Tagasitulek algusesse, sinna, kus sa nüüd oled, sinna, kes sa nüüd oled, kus sa nüüd-see-oled-kes-sa-oled. Algus, mis ei ole maailma ega tee alguses, vaid lõpus, ja millel see-kõik püsib. Maailm on ehitatud lõpule, kuhu ta ükskord tagasi jõuab, kus ta alati ja igavesti on, s.t. oli. Absoluutne minevikufilosoofia” (Kõiv 2005b).
Huvitav on märkida, et selle korpuse andmetel kuulub aga (5274) sageduselt eesti keele sõnavormide esitosinasse sõnade ja(27 214), on (19 184), ei (13 810), et (12 314), ta (10 170), oli (8861), kui (8599), ka (6191), oma (5329), see (6114) järel – sõnade ma (4454), ning(4409), või(3310), kuid(2341) ees. Suuresti nõnda jääb see ka sõnade eri vormide üheks kokkuliitmisel: olema(44 904), ja(27 232), tema(21 850), see(18 441), mina (14 011), ei (13 813), et(12 318), kui (8600), mis(8230), saama (5894), oma (5738), aga (5276) – sina (5139), ise(4574), siis(4529), ning(4409), kes(4369), nii (3531), või (3374), kõik (3128), kuid(2306) ees.
Eestikeelsete veebilehtede infost koosneva korpuse etTenTen13 koostas firma Lexical Computing Ltd. 2013. aastal. Korpuse lemmatiseeris, märgistas ja ühestas OÜ Filosoft. Andmebaas on kättesaadav aadressil www.keeleveeb.ee ning programmi Sketch Engine (https://the.sketchengine.co.uk/auth/corpora/) kaudu. Ajakirjandustekstid moodustavad 29 %, foorumid ja blogid 23 %, teabetekstid 9 %, usulise ja poliitilise sisuga tekstid 4 % ja liigitamata tekstid 35 % (vt www2.keeleveeb.ee/dict/corpus/ettenten/about.html).
Tänan Margit Langemetsa veel töötlemisel olevate andmete vahendamise eest.
Sõnade arv on saadud loenduriga doc- või pdf-failidest (ja võivad sisaldada minimaalseid kõrvalekaldeid), aga/ometi esinemised tuvastasin otsingukäsu abil. Allikateks on andmebaasid Vikitekstid (http://et.wikisource.org/wiki), Digira (http://www.digiraamat.ee) või autori erakogu (skaneeringud).
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KOKKUVÕTE
Sisendusjõulised kordusstruktuurid, mida märgib tihe aga-funktsioonis leksika ja rindlause eelistus, mängivad jõudsalt kaasa rütmilise semantika ehk tammsaareliku „sisemise helina” fluidumi tekkele, mis paljusid tema lugejaid – ning esmalt loojat ennast – ikka härdaks on võlunud. Sellega tuleb kaasaloovalt kaasa minna või pudeneb põhitoon pigem ruumi täitvaks targutuseks. Mõlemad lugemislaadid, nii empaatilisem kui ka kriitilisem, on vastuvõtus levinud, kuid ei ole õige, kui ainult teine muutub valdavaks. Analüütilised võivad sealjuures mõlemad olla, kuna metatasandil teadlikkus võib elamust isegi võimendada. Seega avaldub ka proosaeepikas vahel luulepärane, paradigmalisel parallelismil elik ekvivalentsi sekventsidel põhinev poeetiline stiil. Kel kõrvad on, kuulgu.
Artikkel on seotud Eesti Teadusagentuuri institutsionaalse uurimistoetusega IUT20-1 „Eesti kirjandus võrdleva kirjandusuurimise paradigmas”.
KIRJANDUS
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EES = Eesti etümoloogiasõnaraamat. Koost ja toim Iris Metsmägi, Meeli Sedrik, Sven-Eerik Soosaar. Eesti Keele Instituut. Tallinn: Eesti Keele Sihtasutus, 2012.
EKK = Mati Erelt, Tiiu Erelt, Kristiina Ross 2007. Eesti keele käsiraamat. 3., täiendatud trükk. Tallinn: Eesti Keele Sihtasutus.
EKSS = Eesti keele seletav sõnaraamat 1. Toim Margit Langemets, Mai Tiits, Tiia Valdre, Leidi Veskis, Ülle Viks, Piret Voll. Eesti Keele Instituut. Tallinn: Eesti Keele Sihtasutus, 2009.
E n n i k o, Kalju, V i l l u p, Astrid 1978. „Tõe ja õiguse” I osa keelestatistikat. – Keel ja Kirjandus, nr 1, lk 28–38.
H a u g, Toomas 2010. A. H. T. lahkumine Koitjärvelt. Lapse sünd „Kõrboja peremehes”. – T. Haug, Klassikute lahkumine. 25 kirjatööd.Tallinn: Eesti Keele Sihtasutus, lk 18–38.
K a a l e p, Heiki-Jaan, M u i s c h n e k, Kadri 2002. Eesti kirjakeele sagedussõnastik. Tartu: Tartu Ülikooli Kirjastus, http://www.cl.ut.ee/ressursid/sagedused/index.php?lang=et.
K r o s s, Jaan 1979. Tammsaare ja Mefisto. – Looming, nr 2, lk 244–251.
K õ i v, Madis 2005a. Aga Liisile kippus aina nutt peale, (sest) niisugused imelikud kosjad olid need. Ometi polnud sest ühti, sest nõnda oli ometi parem kui ilma kõigeta. – M. Kõiv, Luhta-minek. (Eesti mõttelugu 61.)Koost Aare Pilv. Tartu: Ilmamaa, lk 158–164.
K õ i v, Madis 2005b. A. H. T. filosoofia. – M. Kõiv, Luhta-minek. (Eesti mõttelugu 61.) Koost Aare Pilv. Tartu: Ilmamaa, lk 157.
K õ i v, Madis 2005c. Luhta-minek. Valtoni ja Tammsaare teekonnad. – M. Kõiv, Luhta-minek. (Eesti mõttelugu 61.) Koost Aare Pilv. Tartu: Ilmamaa, lk 165–205.
L i i v, Juhan 1989. Sinuga ja sinuta.Koost Aarne Vinkel. Tallinn: Eesti Raamat.
L i i v, Toomas 1989. A. H. Tammsaare „Tõe ja õiguse” interpreteerimine. – Keel ja Kirjandus, nr 12, lk 727–738.
L o t m a n, Juri 1990. Luule olemus. Tlk Pärt Lias. – J. Lotman, Kultuurisemiootika. Tekst–kirjandus–kultuur.Tallinn: Olion, lk 65–74.
L o t m a n, Maria-Kristiina, L o t m a n, Mihhail 2007. Eesti silbilis-rõhulise neljajalalise trohheuse rõhustruktuurist. – Keel ja Kirjandus, nr 2, lk 116–142.
M e r i l a i, Arne 2011. Eurovisioon ja matsirahvas: Tõde ja õigus III. – A. Merilai, Vokimeister. Kriitilisi konstruktsioone 1990–2011.(Studia litteraria Estonica 11.) Tartu: Tartu Ülikooli Kirjastus, lk 533–535.
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P a b e r t r ü k k
Sisendusjõulised kordusstruktuurid, mida märgib tihe aga-funktsioonis leksika ja rindlause eelistus, mängivad jõudsalt kaasa rütmilise semantika ehk tammsaareliku „sisemise helina” fluidumi tekkele, mis paljusid tema lugejaid – ning esmalt loojat ennast – ikka härdaks on võlunud. Sellega tuleb kaasaloovalt kaasa minna või pudeneb põhitoon pigem ruumi täitvaks targutuseks. Mõlemad lugemislaadid, nii empaatilisem kui ka kriitilisem, on vastuvõtus levinud, kuid ei ole õige, kui ainult teine muutub valdavaks. Analüütilised võivad sealjuures mõlemad olla, kuna metatasandil teadlikkus võib elamust isegi võimendada. Seega avaldub ka proosaeepikas vahel luulepärane, paradigmalisel parallelismil elik ekvivalentsi sekventsidel põhinev poeetiline stiil. Kel kõrvad on, kuulgu.
Artikkel on seotud Eesti Teadusagentuuri institutsionaalse uurimistoetusega IUT20-1 „Eesti kirjandus võrdleva kirjandusuurimise paradigmas”.
KIRJANDUS
A l e k õ r s, Richard 1940. A. H. Tammsaare teoste lõpplahendused. – Eesti Kirjandus, nr 4, lk 145–163.
EES = Eesti etümoloogiasõnaraamat. Koost ja toim Iris Metsmägi, Meeli Sedrik, Sven-Eerik Soosaar. Eesti Keele Instituut. Tallinn: Eesti Keele Sihtasutus, 2012.
EKK = Mati Erelt, Tiiu Erelt, Kristiina Ross 2007. Eesti keele käsiraamat. 3., täiendatud trükk. Tallinn: Eesti Keele Sihtasutus.
EKSS = Eesti keele seletav sõnaraamat 1. Toim Margit Langemets, Mai Tiits, Tiia Valdre, Leidi Veskis, Ülle Viks, Piret Voll. Eesti Keele Instituut. Tallinn: Eesti Keele Sihtasutus, 2009.
E n n i k o, Kalju, V i l l u p, Astrid 1978. „Tõe ja õiguse” I osa keelestatistikat. – Keel ja Kirjandus, nr 1, lk 28–38.
H a u g, Toomas 2010. A. H. T. lahkumine Koitjärvelt. Lapse sünd „Kõrboja peremehes”. – T. Haug, Klassikute lahkumine. 25 kirjatööd.Tallinn: Eesti Keele Sihtasutus, lk 18–38.
K a a l e p, Heiki-Jaan, M u i s c h n e k, Kadri 2002. Eesti kirjakeele sagedussõnastik. Tartu: Tartu Ülikooli Kirjastus, http://www.cl.ut.ee/ressursid/sagedused/index.php?lang=et.
K r o s s, Jaan 1979. Tammsaare ja Mefisto. – Looming, nr 2, lk 244–251.
K õ i v, Madis 2005a. Aga Liisile kippus aina nutt peale, (sest) niisugused imelikud kosjad olid need. Ometi polnud sest ühti, sest nõnda oli ometi parem kui ilma kõigeta. – M. Kõiv, Luhta-minek. (Eesti mõttelugu 61.)Koost Aare Pilv. Tartu: Ilmamaa, lk 158–164.
K õ i v, Madis 2005b. A. H. T. filosoofia. – M. Kõiv, Luhta-minek. (Eesti mõttelugu 61.) Koost Aare Pilv. Tartu: Ilmamaa, lk 157.
K õ i v, Madis 2005c. Luhta-minek. Valtoni ja Tammsaare teekonnad. – M. Kõiv, Luhta-minek. (Eesti mõttelugu 61.) Koost Aare Pilv. Tartu: Ilmamaa, lk 165–205.
L i i v, Juhan 1989. Sinuga ja sinuta.Koost Aarne Vinkel. Tallinn: Eesti Raamat.
L i i v, Toomas 1989. A. H. Tammsaare „Tõe ja õiguse” interpreteerimine. – Keel ja Kirjandus, nr 12, lk 727–738.
L o t m a n, Juri 1990. Luule olemus. Tlk Pärt Lias. – J. Lotman, Kultuurisemiootika. Tekst–kirjandus–kultuur.Tallinn: Olion, lk 65–74.
L o t m a n, Maria-Kristiina, L o t m a n, Mihhail 2007. Eesti silbilis-rõhulise neljajalalise trohheuse rõhustruktuurist. – Keel ja Kirjandus, nr 2, lk 116–142.
M e r i l a i, Arne 2011. Eurovisioon ja matsirahvas: Tõde ja õigus III. – A. Merilai, Vokimeister. Kriitilisi konstruktsioone 1990–2011.(Studia litteraria Estonica 11.) Tartu: Tartu Ülikooli Kirjastus, lk 533–535.
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28 October 2016 14:54
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Seega: Mart Mägra või Jaak Põldmäe laadis lingvistilise ja matemaatilise lähenemise mõõna tänapäeva kirjandusuurimuses võib ainult kahetseda. Eksaktsed tulemused esindavad objektiivseid relatsioone, mis võimaldavad sõnastada väljendamise ja mõtlemise seaduspärasid, mille tähtsus ulatub kaugemale konkreetsest teoseanalüüsist.
MEETODIKOLMNURK
A. H. Tammsaare ausamba avamisel Albus 1936. aastal möönis Gustav Suits, et sündmusele mitteilmunud kõnealune on loomemeetodilt korraga „külarealist, linnaimpressionist, uusromantik, sümbolist. Ta on seda kõik ühtekokku, ta ei lase end ühegi lööksõna valemisse sundida” (Suits 1999: 371). Tõepoolest, kui meie esikirjanikku on peamiselt defineeritud kui psühholoogilist realisti, siis veel tabavam tunnukse pigem suitsulik määratlus – p s ü h h o l o o g i l i s - s ü m b o l i s t l i k r e a l i s t. Iseloomustab ju epopöa looja kirjutamislaadi tabavalt kolmiksuhe, kus realismi ja impressionismi ehk asjaolude välise kirjelduse ja nende sisemise refleksiooni vastandtelje kohale kaldub kerkima sümbolismi koondav, üldistav tipp.
Sellist geomeetriat toetab ka loomelugu, kus esialgsed külarealistlikud olupildid vahetusid üliõpilasjuttude lüüriliste hingeväreluste vastu, mille üle hakkasid peagi kogunema ajatumad tähenduspilved. Nii Piibli- kui ka üliinimesemõjulise, psühholoogilis-aforistliku (Euroopa-deduktiivse) „Juuditi” järel ehk(Euroopa-induktiivse – me oma kadakapõõsas kõnelevast jumalast lähtuva) „Kõrboja peremehe”aeguhuugasid kõik kolm registrit juba üheskoos. Seetõttu ei saa Tammsaare jutusabast enam hõlpsasti kinni, kuna toetuspunkt libiseb kergesti käest: vaatepunkt liigub kirjeldusest meeleolusse ja sümboolsusse ning jälle kirjeldusse tagasi ehk ikka rulluvalt edasi. Sõnumi täpsem tähendus jääb alati pisut hämaraks ja lahtiseks, teravad nurgad lõigatuks, ajendades aina uusi mõtteid ning tundeid. Kuigi võib isegi väita, et hiline Tammsaare hakkab saavutatud tasakaalu juba ka kõigutama, rõhutades allegoorilis-sümbolistlikku – „Kuningal on külm”– või maagilis-müstilist alget – „Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan” – realismi-psühhologismi arvel, kandudes nii üle juba maagilise realismi väljale (mida, tõele au andes, võiks küll kutsuda pigem müstiliseks realismiks).
Selle ettekujutuse võib ka nõnda üles joonistada, nagu allpool näha (Merilai 2011: 533; 2012: 382).
Ka Maarja Vaino (2011: 135 jm) rajab oma Tammsaare meetodit kirjeldava irratsionaalsuse-väitekirja sellesarnasele tasandite hierarhiale, mida representeerib maastiku (siduva looduse), ühiskonna (hinge narruse) ja muusika (jumaliku kosmose) kui narratiivse keskkonna vertikaal süžee (süntaktilise) horisontaali taga.
Lõpetuseks – üldistava tinglikkusega – võime tammsaareliku metoodilise kolmiksuhte projitseerida (dedutseerida) ka triaadilistele aga-tiraadidele. Või, vastupidi, hoopis agatamise kombest tuletada (indutseerida) üldisema dialektilise meetodi: fookuse liikumise realismilt sümbolismile üle impressionistliku psühhologismi. See tähendab mõtlemisviisi, kus asjaolude objektiveerimine toob aga-reaktsioonina kaasa distantseeruva modaalsuse (subjektiivsed „siseasjaolud”). Vaidlevale paarikule kaldub sageli järgnema vasturääkivusi lepitav ja lähtepositsioone võõritav, ülendav ometi-mööndus. Eeldusi tühistavate ja ületavate mõõtmete tähendus ei ole piiratud surelikele lõpuni hoomatav, sisendades sõnulseletamatut igatsust ja ähmastavat salapära.
Sõiduvees Tammsaarel oli huvitav kirjutada: iga hääle ja ütlusega kaasnev aga viib omakorda järgmise pöördeni, et siis ringiga jälle muutunud lähtekohta tagasi jõuda. Loomepsühholoogiliselt oli see kahtlemata inspireeriv ning lakkamatult tootlik kullasoon. See tegi Tammsaarest sügavuti eufoorilise autori, mis vihutist misantroopiat või sarkastilist progressivaenu sugugi ei välistanud, vaid, vastuoksa, pigem nõudis seda välja dialoogilise kontrastina, et oleks põhjust vaielda (Merilai 2012: 383).
MEETODIKOLMNURK
A. H. Tammsaare ausamba avamisel Albus 1936. aastal möönis Gustav Suits, et sündmusele mitteilmunud kõnealune on loomemeetodilt korraga „külarealist, linnaimpressionist, uusromantik, sümbolist. Ta on seda kõik ühtekokku, ta ei lase end ühegi lööksõna valemisse sundida” (Suits 1999: 371). Tõepoolest, kui meie esikirjanikku on peamiselt defineeritud kui psühholoogilist realisti, siis veel tabavam tunnukse pigem suitsulik määratlus – p s ü h h o l o o g i l i s - s ü m b o l i s t l i k r e a l i s t. Iseloomustab ju epopöa looja kirjutamislaadi tabavalt kolmiksuhe, kus realismi ja impressionismi ehk asjaolude välise kirjelduse ja nende sisemise refleksiooni vastandtelje kohale kaldub kerkima sümbolismi koondav, üldistav tipp.
Sellist geomeetriat toetab ka loomelugu, kus esialgsed külarealistlikud olupildid vahetusid üliõpilasjuttude lüüriliste hingeväreluste vastu, mille üle hakkasid peagi kogunema ajatumad tähenduspilved. Nii Piibli- kui ka üliinimesemõjulise, psühholoogilis-aforistliku (Euroopa-deduktiivse) „Juuditi” järel ehk(Euroopa-induktiivse – me oma kadakapõõsas kõnelevast jumalast lähtuva) „Kõrboja peremehe”aeguhuugasid kõik kolm registrit juba üheskoos. Seetõttu ei saa Tammsaare jutusabast enam hõlpsasti kinni, kuna toetuspunkt libiseb kergesti käest: vaatepunkt liigub kirjeldusest meeleolusse ja sümboolsusse ning jälle kirjeldusse tagasi ehk ikka rulluvalt edasi. Sõnumi täpsem tähendus jääb alati pisut hämaraks ja lahtiseks, teravad nurgad lõigatuks, ajendades aina uusi mõtteid ning tundeid. Kuigi võib isegi väita, et hiline Tammsaare hakkab saavutatud tasakaalu juba ka kõigutama, rõhutades allegoorilis-sümbolistlikku – „Kuningal on külm”– või maagilis-müstilist alget – „Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan” – realismi-psühhologismi arvel, kandudes nii üle juba maagilise realismi väljale (mida, tõele au andes, võiks küll kutsuda pigem müstiliseks realismiks).
Selle ettekujutuse võib ka nõnda üles joonistada, nagu allpool näha (Merilai 2011: 533; 2012: 382).
Ka Maarja Vaino (2011: 135 jm) rajab oma Tammsaare meetodit kirjeldava irratsionaalsuse-väitekirja sellesarnasele tasandite hierarhiale, mida representeerib maastiku (siduva looduse), ühiskonna (hinge narruse) ja muusika (jumaliku kosmose) kui narratiivse keskkonna vertikaal süžee (süntaktilise) horisontaali taga.
Lõpetuseks – üldistava tinglikkusega – võime tammsaareliku metoodilise kolmiksuhte projitseerida (dedutseerida) ka triaadilistele aga-tiraadidele. Või, vastupidi, hoopis agatamise kombest tuletada (indutseerida) üldisema dialektilise meetodi: fookuse liikumise realismilt sümbolismile üle impressionistliku psühhologismi. See tähendab mõtlemisviisi, kus asjaolude objektiveerimine toob aga-reaktsioonina kaasa distantseeruva modaalsuse (subjektiivsed „siseasjaolud”). Vaidlevale paarikule kaldub sageli järgnema vasturääkivusi lepitav ja lähtepositsioone võõritav, ülendav ometi-mööndus. Eeldusi tühistavate ja ületavate mõõtmete tähendus ei ole piiratud surelikele lõpuni hoomatav, sisendades sõnulseletamatut igatsust ja ähmastavat salapära.
Sõiduvees Tammsaarel oli huvitav kirjutada: iga hääle ja ütlusega kaasnev aga viib omakorda järgmise pöördeni, et siis ringiga jälle muutunud lähtekohta tagasi jõuda. Loomepsühholoogiliselt oli see kahtlemata inspireeriv ning lakkamatult tootlik kullasoon. See tegi Tammsaarest sügavuti eufoorilise autori, mis vihutist misantroopiat või sarkastilist progressivaenu sugugi ei välistanud, vaid, vastuoksa, pigem nõudis seda välja dialoogilise kontrastina, et oleks põhjust vaielda (Merilai 2012: 383).
28 October 2016 14:54
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ROBOTSONA ANALÜÜS:
Ometi jõuavad Enniko ja Villup mahuka analüüsi järel selgele tulemusele: „Kõige ühtlasemalt jaotuvad teose osasõnastike vahel üksikute sidesõnade sagedused. Kõrgsagedusega sidesõnu on „Tõe ja õiguse” autorikõnes üldse 10 [---]: 1. ja (2034); 2. et (875); 3. kui (866); 4. aga (479); 5. nagu (466); 6. sest (440); 7. või (205); 8. ega (131); 9. ning (130); 10. nii (105, ainult ühendsidesõna komponendina).” Tõdetakse, et teose autorikõne lausele on rinnastusseos omasem kui alistusseos. Uurijate tähelepanu köidab ka „seik, et sidesõna kuid, mis on küllaltki iseloomulik tänapäeva ilukirjandusproosale, esineb läbitöötatud valimis vaid 13 korda” (Enniko, Villup 1978: 38).
Saab ainult nõustuda statistikute tõdemusega: „Sidesõnade funktsioon teose lausestruktuuris vääriks eriuurimust” (Enniko, Villup 1978: 38). Nad resümeerivad:
Sõnaliikide vahekord romaani autorikõnes toob esile niihästi üldkeelelisi kui ka isikupäraseid tendentse. Sagedusnäitajatest lähtudes väärivad tähelepanu järgmised sõnaliigid: omadussõna (mitmekesise sõnavalikuga, vaatamata küllalt madalale protsendile tekstis), nimisõna (peale muu ka üldnimede madalam ja pärisnimede kõrgem sagedus kui näiteks tänapäeva ilukirjandusproosas), asesõna ja sidesõna (niihästi kõrgete kvantitatiivsete näitajatega kui ka funktsiooniga teksti semantilises ja süntaktilises struktuuris), vähemal määral tegusõna ja määrsõna (Enniko, Villup 1978: 38).
Ka Joel Sang (1978: 85) kinnitas oma lingvostilistilises lähenemiskatses „Tõe ja õiguse” I osa teatamislaadidele teksti suurt kordumisindeksit ja sidusust. Kusjuures vahendav referaat, mis esindab valdavalt järjestikuses ahelseoses arutelu, tundub märksa koherentsem kui direktaal ehk pärisautorikõne, mis oma suuremas paralleelsuses esindab valdavalt jutustust-kirjeldust, või monoloog (Sang 1978: 86). Selle järgi võib väita, et edastava siirdkõne „[s]uur sidusus näitab süžee aeglasemat edenemist referaadis, mõtte aeglasemat käiku, tiirlemist ühe teema ümber. [---] Et referaadis on tegu peaasjalikult arutlusega, siis on referaadi suurem sisuline keskendatus igati loomulik” (Sang 1978: 86). Sanga arvates tuleb hästi ilmsiks kirjaniku kallak erinevatele tegelaspositsioonidele kõrgema instantsina mitte vahele astuda. Vahel ette heidetud „tühja targutamine” näib ent kõik kuuluvat „referaadi või monoloogi alla, seega päriselt tegelaskõnne. [---] Ja sellise targa hoiakuga sobib hästi ka tema stiil ja jutustamislaad, mis on enamasti ikka indirektaalne, vahendav, kui asi puutub inimlikesse tõdedesse ja valedesse” (Sang 1978: 86).
Kuigi, teisalt, ülaltoodud vana ja noore Andrese ahelseoses dialoog võib eelnevale järeldusele isegi vastunäidet pakkuda: ka otsekõne on lõimitud üldisemasse agatamisse, mis veereb läbi kogu teksti, miska teatamislaadide stiiliühtsus tundub veel suurem. Seega tõdegem, samasõnutsi: „Kokkuvõttes võib siis öelda, et „Tões ja õiguses” on teatamislaadide suhted keerukad... Üleminekud direktaalilt indirektaalile (ehk päris-autorikõnelt päris-tegelaskõnele, kui me ikkagi ei raatsi loobuda neist termineist) on sageli väga sujuvad ja vaevu märgatavad. Tammsaare stiil teostub kõige puhtamal kujul referaadis, kuhu koonduvad talle omased kordused ja targutused” (Sang 1978: 86).
Ometi jõuavad Enniko ja Villup mahuka analüüsi järel selgele tulemusele: „Kõige ühtlasemalt jaotuvad teose osasõnastike vahel üksikute sidesõnade sagedused. Kõrgsagedusega sidesõnu on „Tõe ja õiguse” autorikõnes üldse 10 [---]: 1. ja (2034); 2. et (875); 3. kui (866); 4. aga (479); 5. nagu (466); 6. sest (440); 7. või (205); 8. ega (131); 9. ning (130); 10. nii (105, ainult ühendsidesõna komponendina).” Tõdetakse, et teose autorikõne lausele on rinnastusseos omasem kui alistusseos. Uurijate tähelepanu köidab ka „seik, et sidesõna kuid, mis on küllaltki iseloomulik tänapäeva ilukirjandusproosale, esineb läbitöötatud valimis vaid 13 korda” (Enniko, Villup 1978: 38).
Saab ainult nõustuda statistikute tõdemusega: „Sidesõnade funktsioon teose lausestruktuuris vääriks eriuurimust” (Enniko, Villup 1978: 38). Nad resümeerivad:
Sõnaliikide vahekord romaani autorikõnes toob esile niihästi üldkeelelisi kui ka isikupäraseid tendentse. Sagedusnäitajatest lähtudes väärivad tähelepanu järgmised sõnaliigid: omadussõna (mitmekesise sõnavalikuga, vaatamata küllalt madalale protsendile tekstis), nimisõna (peale muu ka üldnimede madalam ja pärisnimede kõrgem sagedus kui näiteks tänapäeva ilukirjandusproosas), asesõna ja sidesõna (niihästi kõrgete kvantitatiivsete näitajatega kui ka funktsiooniga teksti semantilises ja süntaktilises struktuuris), vähemal määral tegusõna ja määrsõna (Enniko, Villup 1978: 38).
Ka Joel Sang (1978: 85) kinnitas oma lingvostilistilises lähenemiskatses „Tõe ja õiguse” I osa teatamislaadidele teksti suurt kordumisindeksit ja sidusust. Kusjuures vahendav referaat, mis esindab valdavalt järjestikuses ahelseoses arutelu, tundub märksa koherentsem kui direktaal ehk pärisautorikõne, mis oma suuremas paralleelsuses esindab valdavalt jutustust-kirjeldust, või monoloog (Sang 1978: 86). Selle järgi võib väita, et edastava siirdkõne „[s]uur sidusus näitab süžee aeglasemat edenemist referaadis, mõtte aeglasemat käiku, tiirlemist ühe teema ümber. [---] Et referaadis on tegu peaasjalikult arutlusega, siis on referaadi suurem sisuline keskendatus igati loomulik” (Sang 1978: 86). Sanga arvates tuleb hästi ilmsiks kirjaniku kallak erinevatele tegelaspositsioonidele kõrgema instantsina mitte vahele astuda. Vahel ette heidetud „tühja targutamine” näib ent kõik kuuluvat „referaadi või monoloogi alla, seega päriselt tegelaskõnne. [---] Ja sellise targa hoiakuga sobib hästi ka tema stiil ja jutustamislaad, mis on enamasti ikka indirektaalne, vahendav, kui asi puutub inimlikesse tõdedesse ja valedesse” (Sang 1978: 86).
Kuigi, teisalt, ülaltoodud vana ja noore Andrese ahelseoses dialoog võib eelnevale järeldusele isegi vastunäidet pakkuda: ka otsekõne on lõimitud üldisemasse agatamisse, mis veereb läbi kogu teksti, miska teatamislaadide stiiliühtsus tundub veel suurem. Seega tõdegem, samasõnutsi: „Kokkuvõttes võib siis öelda, et „Tões ja õiguses” on teatamislaadide suhted keerukad... Üleminekud direktaalilt indirektaalile (ehk päris-autorikõnelt päris-tegelaskõnele, kui me ikkagi ei raatsi loobuda neist termineist) on sageli väga sujuvad ja vaevu märgatavad. Tammsaare stiil teostub kõige puhtamal kujul referaadis, kuhu koonduvad talle omased kordused ja targutused” (Sang 1978: 86).
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AGA REHKENDUS
Muutumatu sõnana kuulub aga keele väheste sidesõnade hulka, „mille ainsaks süntaktiliseks funktsiooniks on siduda lauses moodustajaid, seejuures viimaste vormi mõjustamata” (EKK: 197). Aga ei alista, vaid rinnastab lauseid, olles ühendavalt vastandava tähendusega (EKK: 198). Vastandamisele kui põhifunktsioonile võib lisanduda ka piirav, täpsustav, selgitav, kordav, tunderõhutav tähendus; lause hakul ka sissejuhatav (EKSS: 43). Rõhuadverbina tähistab aga eristuvat-vastanduvat ainulisust (muudkui, vaid, ainult, üksnes) või väljendab imestust, üllatust, etteheidet, ähvardust – millegi teistsuguse suhtes (EKSS: 43).
Etümoloogiliselt seostatakse aga vana sisseütlevavormiga sõnast aeg, millel võis olla ka omastusliide (EES: 43). Kuigi ajajälg on konnektiivist välja lihvitud, võib siiski kujutleda algupärast taju, mille järgi a(e)ga loob oma mõjuvälja kuuluvale iseseisva ja rinnastuva aegruumi, mis eristab seda eelneva ütluse sisu aegruumist. Diferents iseenesest kannabki juba vastandust: uue asjaolu sättimine vana kõrvale „annab aega” ehk loob teise kõrvale eraldiseisva eksistentsi. Ühe asemel tekitatakse kaks konkureerivat tähenduspilve, kummalgi oma eluõigus ehk aeg. Samuti on ometi kui aga siiski etümoloogiliselt huvitava eksistentsiaalse algupäraga, sest selle taustaks on samatüvelised sõnad olema ja oma (EES: 337). Seegi viitab omaetteolemisele, iseseisva asjaolu vastandamisele. Niisiis võis ka ometi algselt prefikseerida millelegi eksistentsi ehk olemise ja aja andmist, uue asjaolu tema enda omaks saamist ehk isenemist, omaette ehk omati-olemist, seda rõhutavat kehtestamist ja kinnitamist.
Heiki-Jaan Kaalepi ja Kadri Muischneki koostatud „Eesti kirjakeele sagedussõnastik”(2002), mis opereerib enam-vähem ühe miljoni sõna suuruse korpusega (neist pooled tulevad ajakirjanduslikest ja teised ilukirjanduslikest tekstidest), annab 10 000 kõige sagedasema sõna/lemma juures aga esinemissageduseks 5276 korda: neist ajakirjanduses 1817 ja kirjanduses 3459 korda.(6) Eks ole ajakirjandus valdavalt raporteeriv meedium, kirjandus kaldub kirjelduste kõrval ka vestlusele, vaidlusele ja seletamisele, mis eeldab tihemini aga tarvitamist. Selle korpuse järgi saame aga esinemismahuks 0,5276 %, ometi(gi) jaoks 0,0492 %, kokku aga-ometi 0,5768 %. Ilukirjanduslike sõnade hulgas hõlmavad mõlemad kokku 0,7708 %, ajakirjanduses 0,3828 %. Tuleb niisiis arvata, et tänu ilukirjanduse mahukale kaasamisele näitab see andmebaas aga-ometi seisukohast mõneti paisutatud andmeid. Kindlasti mõningase reservatsiooniga, kuid ajalehed-ajakirjad esindavad siiski tüüpilisemat igapäevakeelt, mida näitab ka uuem sõnavarakorpus etTenTen13.(7)
Andmepank etTenTen13, mis sisaldab ka Tartu Ülikooli esialgset koondkorpust, on „Eesti kirjakeele sagedussõnastikust” üle viiesaja korra mahukam: 563 220 548 tekstisõna (sõnet). Kuigi korpusleksikograafid (Jelena Kallas, Maria Tuulik jt) selle korrastamisel alles tänuväärselt töötavad, võib sealtki juba andmeid utta.(8) Selles andmebaasis esineb sõna aga kokku 2119 866 korda, mis teeb 0,37638 %; ometi/ometigi esineb 90 519 korda, seega 0,01607%. Niisiis aga-ometi kokku 0,39245 %. See on üldkeeleline foon, mis sisaldab ka portsu ilukirjandust.
Asetades sellele taustale tabeli Tammsaare teoste aga-ometi-tarvitusega (vt tabelit 1), näeme märkimisväärset paisutust (üle ühe protsendi ulatuvad väärtused on selguse mõttes esile tõstetud).(9) Sageli kasvab esinemismaht üldkeele fooniga võrreldes ligikaudu neli korda (näiteks 1,5 % või 1,8 % puhul tuleb kasvuks vastavalt 3,82 või 4,59 korda), mis on samas topelt kõrgem ilukirjanduse üldisest 0,77 %-st „Eesti kirjakeele sagedussõnastiku” andmebaasi järgi. See kõik viitab selgelt inspireeritud sõnavalikule. Võrdluseks toogem tabelisse mõnede teiste prosaistide suhtarvud, mis samuti kalduvad tavakeelefooni tunduvalt ületama, kuid jäävad Tammsaare lemmikutele siiski üldjuhul alla, järgnedes Jaan Krossile; teistel kirjanikel ei esine silmatorkavalt ka aga-põhiseid düaadilis-triaadilisi argumendikette.
„Tõe ja õiguse” keelestatistikat on üritatud ka varem ja põhjalikumalt. 1978. aastal tõdesid Kalju Enniko ja Astrid Villup, et täppismeetodite rakendamine ilukirjanduskeele uurimisel tõestab, et sõnakunstis ei ole midagi stilistiliselt neutraalset, vaid iga keeleüksus on terviku suhtes funktsionaalne (Enniko, Villup 1978: 28). Nad vaatlesid sõnaliikide stiilistatistilist esinemist „Tõe ja õiguse”I köite autorikõnes, lahutatuna eripärasematest tegelaskõnedest, ja võrdlesid seda muu ilukirjandusproosa autorikõne näitajatega. Sõnaliikide pingerea võrdsuse juures ilmnes, et nimisõnu kasutab Tammsaare 1,6% vähem kui muu ilukirjandusproosa (30,1 % vs. 31,7 %), kusjuures üldnimesid kasutab ta umbes 3,3 % vähem ja pärisnimesid jällegi umbes 1,7 % rohkem. Tegusõnu leidub tal ligikaudu 1 % võrra rohkem (23,6 % vs. 22,5 %) ja ka määrsõnu on pisut enam kui tavaliselt (16,5 % vs. 15,8 %). Kõige suuremad lahknevused konkretiseerivate pärisnimede kõrval tulid aga ilmsiks omadussõnade ja sidesõnade osas: esimesi leidub Tammsaarel ca 2 % vähem (4,1 % vs. 6,0 %) ja teisi ca 2 % rohkem (10,3 % vs. 8,2 %) (Enniko, Villup 1978: 30). Uurijad järeldavad: „Kõige sagedamini korduvad romaani autorikõnes sidesõnad ja asesõnad: esimene kordub ühe 10 000-sõnelise osasõnastiku tekstis keskmiselt 35,5 korda, teine 28,2 korda. Nende kahe sõnaliigi sõnade sagedas kordumises avaldub üldine seaduspärasus, mis tuleneb ühelt poolt eri sidesõnade ja asesõnade piiratud arvust, teiselt poolt nende suurest funktsionaalsest koormusest mitmes keelestiilis” (Enniko, Villup 1978: 31–32).
Tõepoolest, nagu näitab toodud tabel, on eepilise aga-polüsündetoni – kui välmida selline ad hoc termin – panus antud statistikasse tavapärasest kõrgem: ilukirjanduse taustal kaks, tavakeele foonil koguni neli korda.
Sidesõnakust ei kuuluta Enniko ja Villup siiski stilistiliselt markeerituks ega tõsta seda sõnaliiki Tammsaare stiilikarakteristikute pingeritta. Sinna kuulub nende järgi esemelisus, substantiivsus, pronominaalsus, verbaalsus ja adverbiaalsus (Enniko, Villup 1978: 38). Küllap ei eeldanud nad sõnaliigi puht-formaalse maine tõttu sealt pärinevaid „temaatilisi” ehk „võtmesõnu” (Enniko, Villup 1978: 33 – autorite jutumärgid), jättes võimaliku poeetilise ja ekspressiivse funktsiooni väärtustamata, kuigi lähemal vaatlusel kaldub siiski tekkima n-ö eepilise polüsündetoni mulje. Selleks oli omakorda tarvis analüütilise filosoofi Kõivu röntgenipilku, kelle samal ajal valminud käsikirjad jäid aga veel kauaks sahtlisse.
Muutumatu sõnana kuulub aga keele väheste sidesõnade hulka, „mille ainsaks süntaktiliseks funktsiooniks on siduda lauses moodustajaid, seejuures viimaste vormi mõjustamata” (EKK: 197). Aga ei alista, vaid rinnastab lauseid, olles ühendavalt vastandava tähendusega (EKK: 198). Vastandamisele kui põhifunktsioonile võib lisanduda ka piirav, täpsustav, selgitav, kordav, tunderõhutav tähendus; lause hakul ka sissejuhatav (EKSS: 43). Rõhuadverbina tähistab aga eristuvat-vastanduvat ainulisust (muudkui, vaid, ainult, üksnes) või väljendab imestust, üllatust, etteheidet, ähvardust – millegi teistsuguse suhtes (EKSS: 43).
Etümoloogiliselt seostatakse aga vana sisseütlevavormiga sõnast aeg, millel võis olla ka omastusliide (EES: 43). Kuigi ajajälg on konnektiivist välja lihvitud, võib siiski kujutleda algupärast taju, mille järgi a(e)ga loob oma mõjuvälja kuuluvale iseseisva ja rinnastuva aegruumi, mis eristab seda eelneva ütluse sisu aegruumist. Diferents iseenesest kannabki juba vastandust: uue asjaolu sättimine vana kõrvale „annab aega” ehk loob teise kõrvale eraldiseisva eksistentsi. Ühe asemel tekitatakse kaks konkureerivat tähenduspilve, kummalgi oma eluõigus ehk aeg. Samuti on ometi kui aga siiski etümoloogiliselt huvitava eksistentsiaalse algupäraga, sest selle taustaks on samatüvelised sõnad olema ja oma (EES: 337). Seegi viitab omaetteolemisele, iseseisva asjaolu vastandamisele. Niisiis võis ka ometi algselt prefikseerida millelegi eksistentsi ehk olemise ja aja andmist, uue asjaolu tema enda omaks saamist ehk isenemist, omaette ehk omati-olemist, seda rõhutavat kehtestamist ja kinnitamist.
Heiki-Jaan Kaalepi ja Kadri Muischneki koostatud „Eesti kirjakeele sagedussõnastik”(2002), mis opereerib enam-vähem ühe miljoni sõna suuruse korpusega (neist pooled tulevad ajakirjanduslikest ja teised ilukirjanduslikest tekstidest), annab 10 000 kõige sagedasema sõna/lemma juures aga esinemissageduseks 5276 korda: neist ajakirjanduses 1817 ja kirjanduses 3459 korda.(6) Eks ole ajakirjandus valdavalt raporteeriv meedium, kirjandus kaldub kirjelduste kõrval ka vestlusele, vaidlusele ja seletamisele, mis eeldab tihemini aga tarvitamist. Selle korpuse järgi saame aga esinemismahuks 0,5276 %, ometi(gi) jaoks 0,0492 %, kokku aga-ometi 0,5768 %. Ilukirjanduslike sõnade hulgas hõlmavad mõlemad kokku 0,7708 %, ajakirjanduses 0,3828 %. Tuleb niisiis arvata, et tänu ilukirjanduse mahukale kaasamisele näitab see andmebaas aga-ometi seisukohast mõneti paisutatud andmeid. Kindlasti mõningase reservatsiooniga, kuid ajalehed-ajakirjad esindavad siiski tüüpilisemat igapäevakeelt, mida näitab ka uuem sõnavarakorpus etTenTen13.(7)
Andmepank etTenTen13, mis sisaldab ka Tartu Ülikooli esialgset koondkorpust, on „Eesti kirjakeele sagedussõnastikust” üle viiesaja korra mahukam: 563 220 548 tekstisõna (sõnet). Kuigi korpusleksikograafid (Jelena Kallas, Maria Tuulik jt) selle korrastamisel alles tänuväärselt töötavad, võib sealtki juba andmeid utta.(8) Selles andmebaasis esineb sõna aga kokku 2119 866 korda, mis teeb 0,37638 %; ometi/ometigi esineb 90 519 korda, seega 0,01607%. Niisiis aga-ometi kokku 0,39245 %. See on üldkeeleline foon, mis sisaldab ka portsu ilukirjandust.
Asetades sellele taustale tabeli Tammsaare teoste aga-ometi-tarvitusega (vt tabelit 1), näeme märkimisväärset paisutust (üle ühe protsendi ulatuvad väärtused on selguse mõttes esile tõstetud).(9) Sageli kasvab esinemismaht üldkeele fooniga võrreldes ligikaudu neli korda (näiteks 1,5 % või 1,8 % puhul tuleb kasvuks vastavalt 3,82 või 4,59 korda), mis on samas topelt kõrgem ilukirjanduse üldisest 0,77 %-st „Eesti kirjakeele sagedussõnastiku” andmebaasi järgi. See kõik viitab selgelt inspireeritud sõnavalikule. Võrdluseks toogem tabelisse mõnede teiste prosaistide suhtarvud, mis samuti kalduvad tavakeelefooni tunduvalt ületama, kuid jäävad Tammsaare lemmikutele siiski üldjuhul alla, järgnedes Jaan Krossile; teistel kirjanikel ei esine silmatorkavalt ka aga-põhiseid düaadilis-triaadilisi argumendikette.
„Tõe ja õiguse” keelestatistikat on üritatud ka varem ja põhjalikumalt. 1978. aastal tõdesid Kalju Enniko ja Astrid Villup, et täppismeetodite rakendamine ilukirjanduskeele uurimisel tõestab, et sõnakunstis ei ole midagi stilistiliselt neutraalset, vaid iga keeleüksus on terviku suhtes funktsionaalne (Enniko, Villup 1978: 28). Nad vaatlesid sõnaliikide stiilistatistilist esinemist „Tõe ja õiguse”I köite autorikõnes, lahutatuna eripärasematest tegelaskõnedest, ja võrdlesid seda muu ilukirjandusproosa autorikõne näitajatega. Sõnaliikide pingerea võrdsuse juures ilmnes, et nimisõnu kasutab Tammsaare 1,6% vähem kui muu ilukirjandusproosa (30,1 % vs. 31,7 %), kusjuures üldnimesid kasutab ta umbes 3,3 % vähem ja pärisnimesid jällegi umbes 1,7 % rohkem. Tegusõnu leidub tal ligikaudu 1 % võrra rohkem (23,6 % vs. 22,5 %) ja ka määrsõnu on pisut enam kui tavaliselt (16,5 % vs. 15,8 %). Kõige suuremad lahknevused konkretiseerivate pärisnimede kõrval tulid aga ilmsiks omadussõnade ja sidesõnade osas: esimesi leidub Tammsaarel ca 2 % vähem (4,1 % vs. 6,0 %) ja teisi ca 2 % rohkem (10,3 % vs. 8,2 %) (Enniko, Villup 1978: 30). Uurijad järeldavad: „Kõige sagedamini korduvad romaani autorikõnes sidesõnad ja asesõnad: esimene kordub ühe 10 000-sõnelise osasõnastiku tekstis keskmiselt 35,5 korda, teine 28,2 korda. Nende kahe sõnaliigi sõnade sagedas kordumises avaldub üldine seaduspärasus, mis tuleneb ühelt poolt eri sidesõnade ja asesõnade piiratud arvust, teiselt poolt nende suurest funktsionaalsest koormusest mitmes keelestiilis” (Enniko, Villup 1978: 31–32).
Tõepoolest, nagu näitab toodud tabel, on eepilise aga-polüsündetoni – kui välmida selline ad hoc termin – panus antud statistikasse tavapärasest kõrgem: ilukirjanduse taustal kaks, tavakeele foonil koguni neli korda.
Sidesõnakust ei kuuluta Enniko ja Villup siiski stilistiliselt markeerituks ega tõsta seda sõnaliiki Tammsaare stiilikarakteristikute pingeritta. Sinna kuulub nende järgi esemelisus, substantiivsus, pronominaalsus, verbaalsus ja adverbiaalsus (Enniko, Villup 1978: 38). Küllap ei eeldanud nad sõnaliigi puht-formaalse maine tõttu sealt pärinevaid „temaatilisi” ehk „võtmesõnu” (Enniko, Villup 1978: 33 – autorite jutumärgid), jättes võimaliku poeetilise ja ekspressiivse funktsiooni väärtustamata, kuigi lähemal vaatlusel kaldub siiski tekkima n-ö eepilise polüsündetoni mulje. Selleks oli omakorda tarvis analüütilise filosoofi Kõivu röntgenipilku, kelle samal ajal valminud käsikirjad jäid aga veel kauaks sahtlisse.
28 October 2016 14:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vargamäelt alla sõites ütles noor Andres vanale:
„Nüüd pead jällegi võera sulase võtma, isa.” [+]
„Olen mõelnd muidu läbi ajada,” vastas vana Andres.
„Ants on ju alles liig noor ja nõrk.” [–]
„E n n e saadi Vargamäel ikka poisikesega hakkama,” arvas isa. [+]
„S i i s oli Vargamäe teine ja olid ka sina ise teine,” ütles poeg. [–]
Vana Andres istus natukese aega vaikides, piht vimmas, ja ütles siis:
„Mina tahan s i i s k i nõnda läbi ajada, kuni sina tagasi tuled.” [–]
„Kas ma ü l e ü l d s e tulen,” tähendas nüüd poeg. [–]
Isa vaatas pojale otsa sõna tõsises mõttes hirmunul pilgul.
„Mis jutt see s i i s n ü ü d on?” sai ta alles natukese aja pärast suust. „Kellele ma s i i s siin olen teind ja vaeva näind? K a s sa s i i s Vargamäed sugugi ei armasta?” [–]
„Isa, sina i s e g i e i armasta õieti Vargamäed, sul on ainult kahju oma töövaeva võerastele jätta, see on kõik,” rääkis poeg. [–]
„K u s t sa selle o m e t i täna võtad?” küsis vana Andres valusalt. [–]
„V e e l tänavu suvel ütlesid sa kord, et sel päeval, kui sul võimalik oleks isakoju tagasi minna, paneks sa kas südaööl hõlmad vaheliti ja läheks lauldes Vargamäelt alla. Eks ole nõnda?” [–]
Muidugi, nõnda see oli, seda teadis vana Andres, aga et see nii raskel silmapilgul talle kätte pidi tulema, seda ei teadnud ta mitte. Nüüd teadis ta seda, teadis oma esimese poja suu läbi, keda sõidutab Vargamäelt alla. [[+]] Võib-olla oleks pidanud poeg täna isa peale halastama ja seda talle mitte meelde tuletama, a g a poeg ei halastanud, s e s t pojad ei halasta kunagi isade peale. [[–]] Hulk aega pidi vana Andres vaikima, enne kui oskas öelda:
„M i s s e s t siis on, et mina oma isakoju tagasi läheks, Vargamäe on ju sinu isakodu ja sina pead seia tagasi tulema.” [–]
„Nii ta on k ü l l,” arvas poeg vastu. [+] „Aga kas sinu isa oma laste sünnikohta armastas?” [–]
„Meie kõik armastasime – isa, ema, lapsed.” [+]
„No näed, a g a s i n a ei armasta oma laste sünnikohta ja minu ema k a p õ l e Vargamäed armastand, s e s t temale põle meeldind need sood ja rabad, sa ise rääkisid,” seletas poeg isale. [–]
„E g a tema nüüd õndsake küll ...” lausus isa. [+] „Aga sood võib j u ära kuivatada, soode asemele tuleb mets, n õ n d a peab see olema.” [–]
„A g a miks siis just meie need peame olema, kes oma elu seia sohu matavad, kui mujal kergemalt leiba saab?” küsis poeg [–], ja kui isa ei vastanud, lisas ta mõeldes juurde: „Kui jüst oleks armastus, siis muidugi ...” [+]
„Tee tööd ja näe vaeva, siis tuleb armastus,” ütles isa. [– > +]
„Sina oled seda teind ja minu ema tegi ka, e g a ta muidu nii vara surnd; aga armastus ei tulnd, teda p õ l e tänapäevani Vargamäel.” [–]
Need olid kurvad sõnad, nii kurvad, et vana Andres poleks kunagi võinud arvata, kuidas küll noor Andres võib nii kurbi sõnu rääkida, sõites ühes vana isaga Vargamäelt alla. Neid sõnu kuuldes muutus vana Andres nagu veel palju vanemaks ja vimmakamaks, nii et kui poeg silmad temale heitis, tal isast kahju hakkas. [[– > +]] Sellepärast ütles:
„Aga kes seda s i i s k i teab, inimene mõtleb, jumal juhib.” [– > +]
„Nojah, e g a jumala vastu saa,” oli ka isa nõus [+], s e s t see oli see põhjatu tõrs, kuhu võis kallata kogu maailma mure ja kurbuse, ilma et ta kunagi täis saaks. Oli suur meistritöö see murede ja nukruse surutõrs ja Vargamäe vana Andres aina imetles teda. [–/+] Selles imetluses ta poja kõrval vankrilgi istus, kui sõitis vallamaja poole (Tammsaare 1981: 491–493).
Iseloomulikult jõuab katkend sümboolsemal tasandil vasturääkivuste lepitamise motiivini välja, st plussi ja miinust lõimiva ometi’ni, aga siiski’ni. Siit võib juba edasi liikuda suuremate üldistusteni: Tammsaare stilistilise ning metoodilise määratlemiseni psühholoogilis-sümbolistliku realistina.
„Nüüd pead jällegi võera sulase võtma, isa.” [+]
„Olen mõelnd muidu läbi ajada,” vastas vana Andres.
„Ants on ju alles liig noor ja nõrk.” [–]
„E n n e saadi Vargamäel ikka poisikesega hakkama,” arvas isa. [+]
„S i i s oli Vargamäe teine ja olid ka sina ise teine,” ütles poeg. [–]
Vana Andres istus natukese aega vaikides, piht vimmas, ja ütles siis:
„Mina tahan s i i s k i nõnda läbi ajada, kuni sina tagasi tuled.” [–]
„Kas ma ü l e ü l d s e tulen,” tähendas nüüd poeg. [–]
Isa vaatas pojale otsa sõna tõsises mõttes hirmunul pilgul.
„Mis jutt see s i i s n ü ü d on?” sai ta alles natukese aja pärast suust. „Kellele ma s i i s siin olen teind ja vaeva näind? K a s sa s i i s Vargamäed sugugi ei armasta?” [–]
„Isa, sina i s e g i e i armasta õieti Vargamäed, sul on ainult kahju oma töövaeva võerastele jätta, see on kõik,” rääkis poeg. [–]
„K u s t sa selle o m e t i täna võtad?” küsis vana Andres valusalt. [–]
„V e e l tänavu suvel ütlesid sa kord, et sel päeval, kui sul võimalik oleks isakoju tagasi minna, paneks sa kas südaööl hõlmad vaheliti ja läheks lauldes Vargamäelt alla. Eks ole nõnda?” [–]
Muidugi, nõnda see oli, seda teadis vana Andres, aga et see nii raskel silmapilgul talle kätte pidi tulema, seda ei teadnud ta mitte. Nüüd teadis ta seda, teadis oma esimese poja suu läbi, keda sõidutab Vargamäelt alla. [[+]] Võib-olla oleks pidanud poeg täna isa peale halastama ja seda talle mitte meelde tuletama, a g a poeg ei halastanud, s e s t pojad ei halasta kunagi isade peale. [[–]] Hulk aega pidi vana Andres vaikima, enne kui oskas öelda:
„M i s s e s t siis on, et mina oma isakoju tagasi läheks, Vargamäe on ju sinu isakodu ja sina pead seia tagasi tulema.” [–]
„Nii ta on k ü l l,” arvas poeg vastu. [+] „Aga kas sinu isa oma laste sünnikohta armastas?” [–]
„Meie kõik armastasime – isa, ema, lapsed.” [+]
„No näed, a g a s i n a ei armasta oma laste sünnikohta ja minu ema k a p õ l e Vargamäed armastand, s e s t temale põle meeldind need sood ja rabad, sa ise rääkisid,” seletas poeg isale. [–]
„E g a tema nüüd õndsake küll ...” lausus isa. [+] „Aga sood võib j u ära kuivatada, soode asemele tuleb mets, n õ n d a peab see olema.” [–]
„A g a miks siis just meie need peame olema, kes oma elu seia sohu matavad, kui mujal kergemalt leiba saab?” küsis poeg [–], ja kui isa ei vastanud, lisas ta mõeldes juurde: „Kui jüst oleks armastus, siis muidugi ...” [+]
„Tee tööd ja näe vaeva, siis tuleb armastus,” ütles isa. [– > +]
„Sina oled seda teind ja minu ema tegi ka, e g a ta muidu nii vara surnd; aga armastus ei tulnd, teda p õ l e tänapäevani Vargamäel.” [–]
Need olid kurvad sõnad, nii kurvad, et vana Andres poleks kunagi võinud arvata, kuidas küll noor Andres võib nii kurbi sõnu rääkida, sõites ühes vana isaga Vargamäelt alla. Neid sõnu kuuldes muutus vana Andres nagu veel palju vanemaks ja vimmakamaks, nii et kui poeg silmad temale heitis, tal isast kahju hakkas. [[– > +]] Sellepärast ütles:
„Aga kes seda s i i s k i teab, inimene mõtleb, jumal juhib.” [– > +]
„Nojah, e g a jumala vastu saa,” oli ka isa nõus [+], s e s t see oli see põhjatu tõrs, kuhu võis kallata kogu maailma mure ja kurbuse, ilma et ta kunagi täis saaks. Oli suur meistritöö see murede ja nukruse surutõrs ja Vargamäe vana Andres aina imetles teda. [–/+] Selles imetluses ta poja kõrval vankrilgi istus, kui sõitis vallamaja poole (Tammsaare 1981: 491–493).
Iseloomulikult jõuab katkend sümboolsemal tasandil vasturääkivuste lepitamise motiivini välja, st plussi ja miinust lõimiva ometi’ni, aga siiski’ni. Siit võib juba edasi liikuda suuremate üldistusteni: Tammsaare stilistilise ning metoodilise määratlemiseni psühholoogilis-sümbolistliku realistina.
28 October 2016 14:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Loogikale viitavast sõnasabast kinni võttes tõdegem, et antiteetiline argumenteerimine ehk dialektiline mõttemeetod tähendabki emakeeli vastuvaidlevat agatamist:
Kõik oleks hästi, kui A. H. T. fikseeriks ja peaks kindlana silmas teatud algtõdesid, millele ta ehitaks kui nurgakividele. Aga ei, A. H. T. on skeptik, ta elumõistmine on liiga puretud relativismist; ta tarvitab küll intensiivselt antiteetilist arendust, kuid ei jõua lahenduseni.
[---] ...ja nii looribki autori vaimset tegevust skeptitsism ja arutlus võtab mõnigi kord sofistliku ilme (Palgi 1938: 23–24).
Loogika leksika ehk formaalsete konnektiivide märkamiseni jõuab peatselt ka Tammsaare keelestiili sisse elanud Siirak, kes teeb läbinägeva tähelepaneku: kirjaniku laused ei ole analüütiliselt iseseisvad, vaid seotud tervikorganismiks „kuidagi pehmendavate partiklite” kaudu – ja, aga, nagu, umbes, nõnda... (Tillemann 1940: 322). Ta resümeerib:
Et ta tüübilise skeptikuna püüab vaadelda asju kõigist võimalikest tahkudest, see avaldub tema lausestikuski, kus üksikute elementide sagedase kordamise teel ta nagu tahaks läbi katsuda lõplikult oma kujutlusi. Tema sõnastuslikus koes ei ole sirgeid jooni ega teravaid servi. Tema laused ei taha elada iseseisvate organismidena, vaid nad on enamasti ikka seotud ümbrusega partiklite-sidemete kaudu (Tillemann 1940: 324).
Meenutagem siinkohal kultuurisemiootilist strukturaalpoeetikat, mille põhipostulaate on, et poeetiliselt inspireeritud tekstis võivad ka keele puht-formaalsed ühikud omandada kandva semantika, muutuda tähendusrikkaks ja enesele osutavaks (Lotman 1990). Hiljem võtab Siirak oma elamuse Tammsaare musikaalsest stiilist kokku järgmistesse lõikudesse, mis on väärt taasesitamist:
Tammsaare kujunduslaadi sisemine rütm, see iselaadne ja kohe äratuntav, tuleneks nagu kolmiksammust tees-antitees-süntees, kusjuures ilmne rõhuasetus on kahel esimesel astmel ja nõrgem viimasel. Kirjelduse detailid, jutustuse hargnemised, monoloogis-dialoogis lahtiharutatud ja intensiivses mõttetöös pro ja contra läbikahtlustatud tõed võetakse tihti kokku iseloomulikes resümeerivais epiloog-repliikides ja -lausetes. Need algavad sageli partiklitega „nõnda”, „niisugune”, „seepärast”, „umbes” jne. [---] Otsustavalt sünteesivad nad harvem, sest Tammsaarele on loomuomane jätta otsad lahti, mitte pakkuda valmistõdesid. Isegi näiliselt kindlatele väidetele jätab ta kahtluse jume. Tammsaare hilisemas loomingus kristalliseeruvad need sisemised väitlused sageli aforismideks. [---]
Tammsaare kujunduslaadi jälgimine juhatab meid nägema tema s t i i l i, selle süsteemi kõikide komponentide ühtsuses. Vastupidi laialt levinud arvamusele, et Tammsaarel pole stiili või et tal on halb stiil (mida on heietatud juba Aavikust peale), kusjuures stiili all mõeldakse nähtavasti ehtimiskunsti, tahaks rõhutada, et Tammsaarel on just erakordselt tugev stiilitunne nii sisulises kui vormilises plaanis ja nende tasakaalus – eriti muidugi ta loomingu realistlikus tuumikus. Nii et ta vähemalt vaheldumisi koos Tuglasega oleks võinud kanda hea stilisti loorberipärga. Tammsaare kujundilise mõtlemise omapära, mis on objektiviseerunud ta stiilis, selle arenemine ta loomingulise teekonna eri etappidel, eri žanride spetsiifikas on muidugi lai ja läbitöötamata ala. Sellest ei tohiks kuidagi kauges kaares mööda minna ta loomingu uurijad (Siirak 1963: 331).
Võib nõustuda Siirakuga, et „Tammsaare mõttepildis tõuseb kunstilisel eesmärgil rakendatud keel otsekui teisele tasandile, kus sõnad oma tähendussisudega esinevad uudsetes struktuurisuhetes” (Siirak 1977: 66). Siinkohal võtame niisiis lähemalt vaatluse alla aga-kivikeste tõstmise ühtsesse struktuurimustrisse, rütmilisse kordusmudelisse. Et stilistiline taustajutt ei jääks abstraktseks, pöördugem alustuseks sellesama Liisi kosjade näite juurde„Tõe ja õiguse”I osa 36. peatükist, mille noppis välja loogikas treenitud Kõiv (vt 2005a). Tähistan väite–vastuväite–möönduse struktuuri ehk tees–antitees–süntees mudeli nii, et väidet tähistab [+], aga-„vastuväidet” [–], koondavat-möönvat ometi-lausungit [+/–] või [–/+]; tingmärk > tõstab vajadusel esile uue sammu, topeltnurksulud [[+/–]] teise tasandi diskursi; kandvate partiklite sõrendused on minult.
Seega lõppes ametlik jant. Kosjad olid vastu võetud ja nüüd võis südamerõõmuks pudelist rüübata. [+] Aga Liisile kippus aina nutt peale, niisugused imelikud kosjad olid need. [–] O m e t i polnud sest ühti, s e s t nõnda oli o m e t i parem kui ilma kõigeta. Seda kinnitas talle ka Maret mitmel korral. [+/–]
Kuna Joosep tüdrukutega juttu vestis, istus Karla Madise juurde ja hakkas sellelt laule peale ajama, sest sooja peaga oli see tuntud kui suur sõnaseadja. [+] A g a täna oli Madis oma lauludega tõrges, s e s t temal olla ainult meeste laulud, poiste ja tüdrukute kõrvad ei tohi neid kuulda. [–] V i i m a k s andis vanamees ometi järele ja hakkas tasakesi jörisema [+/–], kuna Karla tema ligi istus, kõrv suu juures [+]. O m e t i ei kuulnud ta kõike, mis Madis laulis, sest see neelas vahetevahel sõnu alla – nende liigse „rasva” pärast [–] (Tammsaare 1981: 406).
Ja nii need rahvuslikud spiraaltorude mustrid edenevad ning harunevad. Võrdluseks toodagu veel teine, pikem ja kuulsam koht I osa lõpulehekülgedelt, 39. peatükist: vana ja noore Andrese nukker vestlus Vargamäelt alla logistades, enne nekrutiküüti. Selle pildi paarilt leheküljelt ehk 527 sõna kohta võime noppida korvi: 8 aga, 3 ju, 3 ega, 2 siiski, 1 ometi. Kahe sidesõna, aga ja ometi osakaal kokku 1,7078 %.Ülejäänud agatamine implitseeritakse ilma aga-sõnata, ent järjekindel, ehkki leebe vaidlus on autori- ja tegelaskõnes läbiv.
Kõik oleks hästi, kui A. H. T. fikseeriks ja peaks kindlana silmas teatud algtõdesid, millele ta ehitaks kui nurgakividele. Aga ei, A. H. T. on skeptik, ta elumõistmine on liiga puretud relativismist; ta tarvitab küll intensiivselt antiteetilist arendust, kuid ei jõua lahenduseni.
[---] ...ja nii looribki autori vaimset tegevust skeptitsism ja arutlus võtab mõnigi kord sofistliku ilme (Palgi 1938: 23–24).
Loogika leksika ehk formaalsete konnektiivide märkamiseni jõuab peatselt ka Tammsaare keelestiili sisse elanud Siirak, kes teeb läbinägeva tähelepaneku: kirjaniku laused ei ole analüütiliselt iseseisvad, vaid seotud tervikorganismiks „kuidagi pehmendavate partiklite” kaudu – ja, aga, nagu, umbes, nõnda... (Tillemann 1940: 322). Ta resümeerib:
Et ta tüübilise skeptikuna püüab vaadelda asju kõigist võimalikest tahkudest, see avaldub tema lausestikuski, kus üksikute elementide sagedase kordamise teel ta nagu tahaks läbi katsuda lõplikult oma kujutlusi. Tema sõnastuslikus koes ei ole sirgeid jooni ega teravaid servi. Tema laused ei taha elada iseseisvate organismidena, vaid nad on enamasti ikka seotud ümbrusega partiklite-sidemete kaudu (Tillemann 1940: 324).
Meenutagem siinkohal kultuurisemiootilist strukturaalpoeetikat, mille põhipostulaate on, et poeetiliselt inspireeritud tekstis võivad ka keele puht-formaalsed ühikud omandada kandva semantika, muutuda tähendusrikkaks ja enesele osutavaks (Lotman 1990). Hiljem võtab Siirak oma elamuse Tammsaare musikaalsest stiilist kokku järgmistesse lõikudesse, mis on väärt taasesitamist:
Tammsaare kujunduslaadi sisemine rütm, see iselaadne ja kohe äratuntav, tuleneks nagu kolmiksammust tees-antitees-süntees, kusjuures ilmne rõhuasetus on kahel esimesel astmel ja nõrgem viimasel. Kirjelduse detailid, jutustuse hargnemised, monoloogis-dialoogis lahtiharutatud ja intensiivses mõttetöös pro ja contra läbikahtlustatud tõed võetakse tihti kokku iseloomulikes resümeerivais epiloog-repliikides ja -lausetes. Need algavad sageli partiklitega „nõnda”, „niisugune”, „seepärast”, „umbes” jne. [---] Otsustavalt sünteesivad nad harvem, sest Tammsaarele on loomuomane jätta otsad lahti, mitte pakkuda valmistõdesid. Isegi näiliselt kindlatele väidetele jätab ta kahtluse jume. Tammsaare hilisemas loomingus kristalliseeruvad need sisemised väitlused sageli aforismideks. [---]
Tammsaare kujunduslaadi jälgimine juhatab meid nägema tema s t i i l i, selle süsteemi kõikide komponentide ühtsuses. Vastupidi laialt levinud arvamusele, et Tammsaarel pole stiili või et tal on halb stiil (mida on heietatud juba Aavikust peale), kusjuures stiili all mõeldakse nähtavasti ehtimiskunsti, tahaks rõhutada, et Tammsaarel on just erakordselt tugev stiilitunne nii sisulises kui vormilises plaanis ja nende tasakaalus – eriti muidugi ta loomingu realistlikus tuumikus. Nii et ta vähemalt vaheldumisi koos Tuglasega oleks võinud kanda hea stilisti loorberipärga. Tammsaare kujundilise mõtlemise omapära, mis on objektiviseerunud ta stiilis, selle arenemine ta loomingulise teekonna eri etappidel, eri žanride spetsiifikas on muidugi lai ja läbitöötamata ala. Sellest ei tohiks kuidagi kauges kaares mööda minna ta loomingu uurijad (Siirak 1963: 331).
Võib nõustuda Siirakuga, et „Tammsaare mõttepildis tõuseb kunstilisel eesmärgil rakendatud keel otsekui teisele tasandile, kus sõnad oma tähendussisudega esinevad uudsetes struktuurisuhetes” (Siirak 1977: 66). Siinkohal võtame niisiis lähemalt vaatluse alla aga-kivikeste tõstmise ühtsesse struktuurimustrisse, rütmilisse kordusmudelisse. Et stilistiline taustajutt ei jääks abstraktseks, pöördugem alustuseks sellesama Liisi kosjade näite juurde„Tõe ja õiguse”I osa 36. peatükist, mille noppis välja loogikas treenitud Kõiv (vt 2005a). Tähistan väite–vastuväite–möönduse struktuuri ehk tees–antitees–süntees mudeli nii, et väidet tähistab [+], aga-„vastuväidet” [–], koondavat-möönvat ometi-lausungit [+/–] või [–/+]; tingmärk > tõstab vajadusel esile uue sammu, topeltnurksulud [[+/–]] teise tasandi diskursi; kandvate partiklite sõrendused on minult.
Seega lõppes ametlik jant. Kosjad olid vastu võetud ja nüüd võis südamerõõmuks pudelist rüübata. [+] Aga Liisile kippus aina nutt peale, niisugused imelikud kosjad olid need. [–] O m e t i polnud sest ühti, s e s t nõnda oli o m e t i parem kui ilma kõigeta. Seda kinnitas talle ka Maret mitmel korral. [+/–]
Kuna Joosep tüdrukutega juttu vestis, istus Karla Madise juurde ja hakkas sellelt laule peale ajama, sest sooja peaga oli see tuntud kui suur sõnaseadja. [+] A g a täna oli Madis oma lauludega tõrges, s e s t temal olla ainult meeste laulud, poiste ja tüdrukute kõrvad ei tohi neid kuulda. [–] V i i m a k s andis vanamees ometi järele ja hakkas tasakesi jörisema [+/–], kuna Karla tema ligi istus, kõrv suu juures [+]. O m e t i ei kuulnud ta kõike, mis Madis laulis, sest see neelas vahetevahel sõnu alla – nende liigse „rasva” pärast [–] (Tammsaare 1981: 406).
Ja nii need rahvuslikud spiraaltorude mustrid edenevad ning harunevad. Võrdluseks toodagu veel teine, pikem ja kuulsam koht I osa lõpulehekülgedelt, 39. peatükist: vana ja noore Andrese nukker vestlus Vargamäelt alla logistades, enne nekrutiküüti. Selle pildi paarilt leheküljelt ehk 527 sõna kohta võime noppida korvi: 8 aga, 3 ju, 3 ega, 2 siiski, 1 ometi. Kahe sidesõna, aga ja ometi osakaal kokku 1,7078 %.Ülejäänud agatamine implitseeritakse ilma aga-sõnata, ent järjekindel, ehkki leebe vaidlus on autori- ja tegelaskõnes läbiv.
28 October 2016 14:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
AGA RÜTM
Oma monograafias Tammsaare varasemast elust ja loomingust iseloomustas Heino Puhvel kirjaniku selginenud stiili:
Kordus aga kuulub nende stiililiste vahendite hulka, mida Tammsaare tarvitab lausa lakkamatult. Tavaliselt kordab kirjanik verbi, andes temaga väljendatud tegevusele igal eri korral isesuguse varjundi. Nii ei muutu paljust kordumisest hoolimata stiil üksluiseks, vaid saavutab rahuliku voolavuse, kusjuures korduv verb jääb intensiivselt kõlama ja igal kordumisel avatakse sündmuse või tegevuse uus aspekt. Nii loob kirjanik verbi kordamisega ilmeka pildi, kuigi niisugune esitusviis pidurdab sündmuste dünaamikat (Puhvel 1966: 352).
Kahtlemata saab sellist tähelepanekut üldistada mis tahes sõnaliikide kordamisel, olgu muutuvad või muutumatud. Puhvel jätkab: „Üldiselt on „Kõrboja peremehe” stiilile omane sisemine rütm, pikkadest lausetest hoolimata sõnastuse lihtsus ja selgus, sageli keele omapärane meloodia, mis on saavutatud kõige tavalisema igapäevakeele vahenditega, kordustega ja ehtrahvaliku jutumehe sõnastusmaneeriga” (Puhvel 1966: 353).
Selge see, et muusika ei tähenda ainult tabamatut ollust, vaid ka matemaatiliselt mõõdetavat objektiivsust. Meloodiat ja rütmi saab mitmeti mõõta, akustiliselt või lingvistiliselt. Teksti muusika on kodeeritud korrastatud keelekasutusse: prosoodiasse, leksikasse ja süntaksisse, vormilisse ja semantilisse parallelismi – ekvivalentide kordustesse ja kontrastide vaheldumisse. Kõigesse, mis võib kooskõlaliselt ja sugestiivselt võnkuda.
Abstraktsevõitu „kosmilise helina” juurest konkreetse lauserütmi juurde alla laskudes torkab Tammsaare tekstis selgesti silma muu hulgas rinnastava sidesõna aga süstemaatiline ja organiseeriv tarvitus. Lähemal vaatlusel selgub ruttu, kuidas üleküllased aga-ühendused moodustavad tekstilõimes omavahel nähtavalt riimuva ehk formaalselt suhtleva koetise, mis ühel hetkel hakkab mõjuma pigem eksplitsiitselt kui implitsiitselt. Aga massiivne esinemine ei tundu juhuslik, vaid poeetiliselt sihikindel mõtte- ja väljendusmall: dialektiline aga-rütm. Need on lainetavad – vahel koguni ringlainetavad (Merilai 2012: 383) – lausete ning vastulausete ahelad.(4)
Vaieluste voo läbiviimiseks läheb vastandamist märkivat (side)sõnavara ja lausemalle tarvis. Loomulikult ei saa küsimus olla ainult ühes sidesõnakillukeses, vaid üldisemas dialoogilises, järjekindlalt positsioone vahetavas ja neid aeg-ajalt pisut kõrgemalt vaateveerult lõimida püüdvas tekstiloomemudelis, mille iseloomulikem avaldusviis koondub peamiselt siiski ülirohke aga tarvitamise ümber. Aga mõjub seega antud diskursiliigi esindussõnana, miks mitte sümbolina. Kuid argumenteeriv sõnavahetus tarvitab loomuldasa muudki kohast, tihti tunderõhulist leksikat, saavutamaks eelnenud lausungite eitusi või omakorda eituse eitusi: siis, siiski, ikka, ikkagi, ega, ometi, või, nüüd, enne, veel, ju, viimaks, kas, mis, küllap, vist, nojah, vastanduv ki-/gi-liide, kuid. Huvitav on küll märkida, et Tammsaare ei näi kasutavat kordagi sünonüümset sidesõna ent.
Aga-loogika huvitavale nähtusele viitasid omal ajal juba Daniel Palgi (1938) ja Erna Siirak (vt Tillemann 1940), kuni viimaks tegi solipsistlik topeltskeptik Madis Kõiv Tammsaare sajanda juubeli aastail (1977–1979) visandatud hämarapärastes traktaatides „Aga Liisile...” (2005a) ja „Luhta-minek” (2005c) sellest sõnakillust jäiga tähistaja. Kuigi aga jäi Kõivul veel osaliselt ometi tähendusrikkuse varju, mida ta millegipärast rohkem eelistas. Ehkki ometi ei tähenda midagi muud kui aga siiski, st on juba semantiline komposiit, mitte enam primitiiv.(5)
Kuigi käesolev artikkel sihib pigem ilukirjanduslikku meetodit ehk narratoloogilist tekstipoeetikat, mitte tekstiülest ajafilosoofiat, jagan ma kindlasti Kõivu seisukohta vastuolude mittetühistamisest nende koondavas lõimimises: kuigi triaad tees–antitees–süntees ehk pluss, miinus ja pluss/miinus on tammsaarelikult vältimatu ja viljakas mudel, ei maksa seda sootuks hegellikult või koguni marksistlikult kuulata kui eituste ületamist ja eelnenu hülgamist progressi armutus spiraalis. Taaskorduva looduse lähedane, nihilistlikke vurlesid põlgav talupoeg Tammsaare oli kõike muud kui progressiusku, miska ei olnud head lootust teha temast dialektilise materialismi kepphobu, kuigi selline oht paistab tagantjärele isegi tõsisem kui varem.
Ennast hegelliku sünteesi vastu vaktsineerinud, kuid dialektikat kahtlemata tunnistades, võime astuda lähemale „+, – ja +/–” tsükleile. Ammuses analüüsis, mida nägid veel kirjaniku enda silmad, juhtis Daniel Palgi tähelepanu levima hakanud metodoloogilisele nõutusele, et Tammsaaret ei ole hõlbus autoriteetselt defineerida. Kuid tema tõlgendas seda õigusega positiivselt:
Sellel on sedapuhku sügavamad põhjused: A. H. T. vaated on mitmeti vasturääkivad, mitte lõpuni minevad, problemaatilised. Ta vaimse palge ilmsemaks jooneks on kalduvus dialektikasse. Peamiseks relvaks tõdede leidmisel on mõistuse loogiline juurdlemine ja järeldamine. Lähtutakse küll elulistest tähelepanekuist, kuid see faktiline osa jääbki tihtipeale ainult arutlusretke lähtepunktiks ja mõistuse isetegelikus protsessis haaratakse elulisi näiteid ja tõendeid veel igalt poolt mujalt juurdegi, kuid see on ikkagi vaid opereerimismaterjal. Elu tõsiasjadel pole mitte valitsevat ning juhtivat tähtsust, vaid rohkem tähtsust on loogikal ja tunnustatakse mõistuse enda tegevust kui kõige kindlamat teed tõdede selgitamisel ning leidmisel (Palgi 1938: 23).
Oma monograafias Tammsaare varasemast elust ja loomingust iseloomustas Heino Puhvel kirjaniku selginenud stiili:
Kordus aga kuulub nende stiililiste vahendite hulka, mida Tammsaare tarvitab lausa lakkamatult. Tavaliselt kordab kirjanik verbi, andes temaga väljendatud tegevusele igal eri korral isesuguse varjundi. Nii ei muutu paljust kordumisest hoolimata stiil üksluiseks, vaid saavutab rahuliku voolavuse, kusjuures korduv verb jääb intensiivselt kõlama ja igal kordumisel avatakse sündmuse või tegevuse uus aspekt. Nii loob kirjanik verbi kordamisega ilmeka pildi, kuigi niisugune esitusviis pidurdab sündmuste dünaamikat (Puhvel 1966: 352).
Kahtlemata saab sellist tähelepanekut üldistada mis tahes sõnaliikide kordamisel, olgu muutuvad või muutumatud. Puhvel jätkab: „Üldiselt on „Kõrboja peremehe” stiilile omane sisemine rütm, pikkadest lausetest hoolimata sõnastuse lihtsus ja selgus, sageli keele omapärane meloodia, mis on saavutatud kõige tavalisema igapäevakeele vahenditega, kordustega ja ehtrahvaliku jutumehe sõnastusmaneeriga” (Puhvel 1966: 353).
Selge see, et muusika ei tähenda ainult tabamatut ollust, vaid ka matemaatiliselt mõõdetavat objektiivsust. Meloodiat ja rütmi saab mitmeti mõõta, akustiliselt või lingvistiliselt. Teksti muusika on kodeeritud korrastatud keelekasutusse: prosoodiasse, leksikasse ja süntaksisse, vormilisse ja semantilisse parallelismi – ekvivalentide kordustesse ja kontrastide vaheldumisse. Kõigesse, mis võib kooskõlaliselt ja sugestiivselt võnkuda.
Abstraktsevõitu „kosmilise helina” juurest konkreetse lauserütmi juurde alla laskudes torkab Tammsaare tekstis selgesti silma muu hulgas rinnastava sidesõna aga süstemaatiline ja organiseeriv tarvitus. Lähemal vaatlusel selgub ruttu, kuidas üleküllased aga-ühendused moodustavad tekstilõimes omavahel nähtavalt riimuva ehk formaalselt suhtleva koetise, mis ühel hetkel hakkab mõjuma pigem eksplitsiitselt kui implitsiitselt. Aga massiivne esinemine ei tundu juhuslik, vaid poeetiliselt sihikindel mõtte- ja väljendusmall: dialektiline aga-rütm. Need on lainetavad – vahel koguni ringlainetavad (Merilai 2012: 383) – lausete ning vastulausete ahelad.(4)
Vaieluste voo läbiviimiseks läheb vastandamist märkivat (side)sõnavara ja lausemalle tarvis. Loomulikult ei saa küsimus olla ainult ühes sidesõnakillukeses, vaid üldisemas dialoogilises, järjekindlalt positsioone vahetavas ja neid aeg-ajalt pisut kõrgemalt vaateveerult lõimida püüdvas tekstiloomemudelis, mille iseloomulikem avaldusviis koondub peamiselt siiski ülirohke aga tarvitamise ümber. Aga mõjub seega antud diskursiliigi esindussõnana, miks mitte sümbolina. Kuid argumenteeriv sõnavahetus tarvitab loomuldasa muudki kohast, tihti tunderõhulist leksikat, saavutamaks eelnenud lausungite eitusi või omakorda eituse eitusi: siis, siiski, ikka, ikkagi, ega, ometi, või, nüüd, enne, veel, ju, viimaks, kas, mis, küllap, vist, nojah, vastanduv ki-/gi-liide, kuid. Huvitav on küll märkida, et Tammsaare ei näi kasutavat kordagi sünonüümset sidesõna ent.
Aga-loogika huvitavale nähtusele viitasid omal ajal juba Daniel Palgi (1938) ja Erna Siirak (vt Tillemann 1940), kuni viimaks tegi solipsistlik topeltskeptik Madis Kõiv Tammsaare sajanda juubeli aastail (1977–1979) visandatud hämarapärastes traktaatides „Aga Liisile...” (2005a) ja „Luhta-minek” (2005c) sellest sõnakillust jäiga tähistaja. Kuigi aga jäi Kõivul veel osaliselt ometi tähendusrikkuse varju, mida ta millegipärast rohkem eelistas. Ehkki ometi ei tähenda midagi muud kui aga siiski, st on juba semantiline komposiit, mitte enam primitiiv.(5)
Kuigi käesolev artikkel sihib pigem ilukirjanduslikku meetodit ehk narratoloogilist tekstipoeetikat, mitte tekstiülest ajafilosoofiat, jagan ma kindlasti Kõivu seisukohta vastuolude mittetühistamisest nende koondavas lõimimises: kuigi triaad tees–antitees–süntees ehk pluss, miinus ja pluss/miinus on tammsaarelikult vältimatu ja viljakas mudel, ei maksa seda sootuks hegellikult või koguni marksistlikult kuulata kui eituste ületamist ja eelnenu hülgamist progressi armutus spiraalis. Taaskorduva looduse lähedane, nihilistlikke vurlesid põlgav talupoeg Tammsaare oli kõike muud kui progressiusku, miska ei olnud head lootust teha temast dialektilise materialismi kepphobu, kuigi selline oht paistab tagantjärele isegi tõsisem kui varem.
Ennast hegelliku sünteesi vastu vaktsineerinud, kuid dialektikat kahtlemata tunnistades, võime astuda lähemale „+, – ja +/–” tsükleile. Ammuses analüüsis, mida nägid veel kirjaniku enda silmad, juhtis Daniel Palgi tähelepanu levima hakanud metodoloogilisele nõutusele, et Tammsaaret ei ole hõlbus autoriteetselt defineerida. Kuid tema tõlgendas seda õigusega positiivselt:
Sellel on sedapuhku sügavamad põhjused: A. H. T. vaated on mitmeti vasturääkivad, mitte lõpuni minevad, problemaatilised. Ta vaimse palge ilmsemaks jooneks on kalduvus dialektikasse. Peamiseks relvaks tõdede leidmisel on mõistuse loogiline juurdlemine ja järeldamine. Lähtutakse küll elulistest tähelepanekuist, kuid see faktiline osa jääbki tihtipeale ainult arutlusretke lähtepunktiks ja mõistuse isetegelikus protsessis haaratakse elulisi näiteid ja tõendeid veel igalt poolt mujalt juurdegi, kuid see on ikkagi vaid opereerimismaterjal. Elu tõsiasjadel pole mitte valitsevat ning juhtivat tähtsust, vaid rohkem tähtsust on loogikal ja tunnustatakse mõistuse enda tegevust kui kõige kindlamat teed tõdede selgitamisel ning leidmisel (Palgi 1938: 23).
28 October 2016 14:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muusikaline paleus tekkis tulevasel kirjanikul küllap juba koolipõlves, Väike-Maarja luuletajate parnassi ehk Jakob Liivi, Peeter Jakobsoni ning eriti koolmeister Jakob Tamme vahetu mõju all (Puhvel 1969: 392). Sarnaselt arenes ju ka Juhan Liiv, kelle rinda hakkas üha enam matma aina kasvav „helin”.(3) Luulelisuse prestiiž seisis toona kõrgel. Proosažanres ei olnud harvad „troopiline” tõstetus (hingestavad epiteedid, võrdlused, hüperboolika, metafoorid-metonüümid) ja figuratiivne pidulikkus – lausete algus-, sise- ja lõpukordused (anafoorid, epifoorid, endofoorid), tunderõhulised epitseuksised (sõnade kõrvutised kordused) või sõnatüve paljundavad polüptootonid (kordused erinevates käänetes-pööretes), loitsiv parallelism ning kruviv gradatsioon–, koondudes vahel kobaraissegi. Loeme „Mahtra sõja” hakatusest:
Rehepapid teavad palju tontidest jutustada. Öised varjud petavad nende silmi, öised hääled nende kõrvu. Öö peidab oma musta tiiva all palju salapäraseid viirastusi. Unine, poolmagav silm võiks tervet pilti, mida rehealune praegu pakub, suureks viirastuseks pidada. Tõmmuhall kuni süsimust on terve ruum. Rasvaküünlad tahmaseis laternais oma kurva kollase helgiga on tontide silmad. Kiired, mis neist vaevaga läbi tolmuse ruumi poevad, kahvatavad eemal ikka enam ja enam surnukarvalisteks. Pikad laisad varjud roomavad üle põranda, ronivad seinu mööda üles, tõstavad oma hiiglapäid sarikateni. Väljas ulub sügisene tuul, nagu tahtes kogu maailma valu ja viletsust ühises vägevas nutulaulus, ilma ääreni kostvas suures ahastusekisas kuuldavale tuua. Reheväravad nuuksuvad, katus ägab ja oigab, pilved aga puistavad pisaraid alla – ojadena, nagu tahaksid nad uputusega kõike kinni matta, mis alt mustavast sügavikust nutu ja kaebe kujul ülespoole kerkib ilmaruumi jumalikku rahu ja vaikust rikkuma (Vilde 1982: 6).
Ning seda kõike me proosakeele valdavalt trohheilisel taustal (vt ka Lotman, Lotman 2007: 122 jj). Tänapäeval kalduvad tugevalt rütmiproosa poole Nikolai Baturini romaanid, millega võrreldes Tammsaare mõtterütmi võrk näib palju diskreetsem – tabamatum-peidetum, tekstikehas hajutatum. Tammsaare muusikaline kuulmine on hõrk, mitte väga pealetükkiv.
Rehepapid teavad palju tontidest jutustada. Öised varjud petavad nende silmi, öised hääled nende kõrvu. Öö peidab oma musta tiiva all palju salapäraseid viirastusi. Unine, poolmagav silm võiks tervet pilti, mida rehealune praegu pakub, suureks viirastuseks pidada. Tõmmuhall kuni süsimust on terve ruum. Rasvaküünlad tahmaseis laternais oma kurva kollase helgiga on tontide silmad. Kiired, mis neist vaevaga läbi tolmuse ruumi poevad, kahvatavad eemal ikka enam ja enam surnukarvalisteks. Pikad laisad varjud roomavad üle põranda, ronivad seinu mööda üles, tõstavad oma hiiglapäid sarikateni. Väljas ulub sügisene tuul, nagu tahtes kogu maailma valu ja viletsust ühises vägevas nutulaulus, ilma ääreni kostvas suures ahastusekisas kuuldavale tuua. Reheväravad nuuksuvad, katus ägab ja oigab, pilved aga puistavad pisaraid alla – ojadena, nagu tahaksid nad uputusega kõike kinni matta, mis alt mustavast sügavikust nutu ja kaebe kujul ülespoole kerkib ilmaruumi jumalikku rahu ja vaikust rikkuma (Vilde 1982: 6).
Ning seda kõike me proosakeele valdavalt trohheilisel taustal (vt ka Lotman, Lotman 2007: 122 jj). Tänapäeval kalduvad tugevalt rütmiproosa poole Nikolai Baturini romaanid, millega võrreldes Tammsaare mõtterütmi võrk näib palju diskreetsem – tabamatum-peidetum, tekstikehas hajutatum. Tammsaare muusikaline kuulmine on hõrk, mitte väga pealetükkiv.
28 October 2016 14:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sõnaküllus nõuab erilist korraldamist, paigutamist ja ka valikut. Olgu siinkohal tähendatud, et Tammsaare üheks silmapaistvaks süntaktiliseks omapärasuseks on kordus. Tammsaare juures ei tundu see mingisuguse peenutsemise ega edvistamise võttena, vaid see näib omane olevat autori mõtlemisviisi põhilaadile. Korratakse üksikuid lauseliikmeid, olgu need siis leksikaalselt erinevad või samad, korratakse terveid lauseid kas samasugustena või väikeste lisandustega, korduvad sõnatüved, korratakse eelneva elamuse või sündmuse mõtet isesuguseis epilooglauseis. Viimaste all tuleb mõista tavaliselt eespoolesitatu kokkuvõtet teatavais lõpplauseis, nagu resümee andmist eelnevast. Seesugused epilooglaused algavad kõige sagedamini sõnadega „nõnda”, „niisugune”, „seepärast” jne. (Tillemann 1940: 320).
Maarja Vaino (2011: 84–87) juhib oma väitekirjas tähelepanu kirjaniku alter ego Anton Petrovitšile jutustuses „Varjundid”(1917). Teda lummab ülemeeleline kaemus maailma üleüldisest kosmilisest kooskõlast: igas kübemes on varjul kõikeläbiv muusika, mille lainetuses vibreerib ja resoneerib kogu universum:
Ka täna olid tal kivid taskus ja neid välja võttes hakkas ta oma uut leidust, uut teooriat seletama – segaselt, kuid tuliselt ja vaimustatult. Ta rääkis muusika imelisest mõjust haigete ja tervete, kahe- ja neljajalgiste peale. [---] Kes võib öelda, mis sündis võdisedes heliseva viiulikaanega, kui Paganini poognaga keeli puutus! Või arvate, et kiviriik on muusika vastu kurt? Riputage liiv õhukesele platile ja mängige poognaga plati serval, küllap siis näete, mis liivaga sünnib. Missuguses imelises rütmis ta liikuma hakkab, nagu seaksid üksikud terakesed end mõneks keeruliseks ringtantsuks ritta! Aga mis on meie maakera ilmade seas, kui mitte pisitilluke poripiisake – liivaterake, mis muusikahelidel tantsima tõttab? Või mis on ruumi otsatuses päike, põhjanael, sõel, vanker, valendav linnutee, kui mitte samasugune liivakübemeke või tolmuterakeste kogu? Miks ei peaks siis nemadki helidele alluma, kui aga nende sinfoonia, nende muusika – kosmiline muusika kõlab, mis paneb rütmilisse, arvupärasesse võdinasse kogu taevalaotuse ja kõik, mis temas leida [---]. Ainult muusikaga, tema peenuse ja vaheldusrikkusega, tema arvamata varjunditega seletub nähtava looduse lõpmata mitmekesisus, kordumata kirevus minu peol olevates kivideski. Muusika helises ilmaruumis juba siis, kui meie maakera oli alles sündimata, ja ta heliseb veel mõõtmata aja pärast seda, kus inimene ühes oma eluasemega juba ammugi ilmaruumist hävinenud, päike jahtunud ja põhjanael paigast nihutatud... (Tammsaare 1979: 62–63).
Vaino väidab, et selles kirglikus sõnavõtus visandab Anton Peetri poeg „muuhulgas pythagorasliku kujutluse sfääride harmooniast, millega seostuvad Tammsaare loomingu mõned võtmeküsimused. Mikrotasandil esinev kosmiline mõõde, mis ilmneb ka kõige väiksemas liivateras, on Tammsaare maailmatajule olemuslik” (Vaino 2011: 86). Uurija nimetab sellist osakeste ja terviku ringpeegelduse nägemust, mida läbib musica universalis, kirjaniku „veetilga-filosoofiaks” (Vaino 2011: 86), millega tema meelest seostub ka kirjaniku irratsionaalne ja religioosne taju. Irratsionaalsust kui mõistuseülesust ei maksa küll mõistusepuudusena võtta, vaid, vastupidi, filosoofide vana pähkli – kantiliku intellektuaalse kaemuse oksüümoroni ehk ületamatu lahkheli – möönmisena. Mõistmatuse universumi mõistmiseks jääb mõistusest põhimõtteliselt väheks, aga mida rohkem mõistust, seda parem. Ka sfääride muusika mõiste esindab ju rohkem ratsionaalset, mitte emotsionaalset kontseptsiooni.
Religiooni ja kosmilise muusika süvaseosele viitab kirjanik ise sama perioodi artiklis „Usust ja tema õpetusest” (1917), kus ta kuulutas, et „looduse, ilmade, kogumi lõpmatust” õpetab meid nägema usk, kuid „vaevalt võib küll üleüldse usku igaühele õpetada, sest usk on omataoline hingemuusika ja muusika tarvitab sellekohaseid meeli” (Tammsaare 1988b: 164). Küllalt antiklerikaalse, kuid mitte päris ateistliku kirjaniku arvates võib just sisekaemuslik usk avastada ja inimeses vabastada maailma vallutavat ratsionalismi ületavad salapärased jõud, kui vaid suudetaks liita ida intuitiivne ja lääne mehhaaniline vaimulaad. Nende kõrgemas ühenduses nägi ta võimalikku lunastust, uut messiat, nagu ta kirjutas 1937. aastal essees „Lunastus” (Tammsaare 1990: 223–228).
Seega ei olnud me esieepik radikaalne skeptik, kui ta väitis: „Maailmas pole midagi eba- ega üliloomulikku, kui inimene tunneb täiuslikult iseennast, sest inimene ja maailm on üks” (Tammsaare 1990: 227). Usklik või mitte, ja seda püsivalt või tükati, kuid kirjanik tajus hästi ning oskas rakendada üldinimlikke arhetüüpe, mis läbivad kultuuri vanatestamentlikku usutunnet, faustilikku müüditeadvust ja süvapsühholoogiat, kõnetades meid universaalselt. Kogu „eepilist” panoraamsust ja ülevust ei pea me ise leiutama, kui saab hästi juba olemasolevat kõlapinda kõmistada. Nii Jaan Kross (1979) kui ka Toomas Liiv (1989) toetavad sellist äratundmist.
Niisiis võib väita, et Tammsaare pealisülesandeks, nagu öeldakse lavakunstikeeles, ei olnud üksiti maa-, ühiskonna- või hingeelu kujutamine, olgu realistlikult, impressionistlikult või sümbolistlikult ehk nende sümbioosis, vaid mis tahes kirjelduse sisemine ja läbiv harmoneerimine, tunde- ja mõtteväljenduse põhitoonide kooskõla, tekstipartituuri sümfoonia. Ta ei tahtnud piirduda ainult olulise sisu, mimesis’ega, vaid otsis ka ideaalset väljendusviisi, suurt poiesis’t. Stilistina ei seisnud Tammsaare siin sugugi üksi: nii Tuglas, Gailit kui hooti ka Vilde hoolitsesid oma proosa sugestiivse rütmimulje eest.(2)
Maarja Vaino (2011: 84–87) juhib oma väitekirjas tähelepanu kirjaniku alter ego Anton Petrovitšile jutustuses „Varjundid”(1917). Teda lummab ülemeeleline kaemus maailma üleüldisest kosmilisest kooskõlast: igas kübemes on varjul kõikeläbiv muusika, mille lainetuses vibreerib ja resoneerib kogu universum:
Ka täna olid tal kivid taskus ja neid välja võttes hakkas ta oma uut leidust, uut teooriat seletama – segaselt, kuid tuliselt ja vaimustatult. Ta rääkis muusika imelisest mõjust haigete ja tervete, kahe- ja neljajalgiste peale. [---] Kes võib öelda, mis sündis võdisedes heliseva viiulikaanega, kui Paganini poognaga keeli puutus! Või arvate, et kiviriik on muusika vastu kurt? Riputage liiv õhukesele platile ja mängige poognaga plati serval, küllap siis näete, mis liivaga sünnib. Missuguses imelises rütmis ta liikuma hakkab, nagu seaksid üksikud terakesed end mõneks keeruliseks ringtantsuks ritta! Aga mis on meie maakera ilmade seas, kui mitte pisitilluke poripiisake – liivaterake, mis muusikahelidel tantsima tõttab? Või mis on ruumi otsatuses päike, põhjanael, sõel, vanker, valendav linnutee, kui mitte samasugune liivakübemeke või tolmuterakeste kogu? Miks ei peaks siis nemadki helidele alluma, kui aga nende sinfoonia, nende muusika – kosmiline muusika kõlab, mis paneb rütmilisse, arvupärasesse võdinasse kogu taevalaotuse ja kõik, mis temas leida [---]. Ainult muusikaga, tema peenuse ja vaheldusrikkusega, tema arvamata varjunditega seletub nähtava looduse lõpmata mitmekesisus, kordumata kirevus minu peol olevates kivideski. Muusika helises ilmaruumis juba siis, kui meie maakera oli alles sündimata, ja ta heliseb veel mõõtmata aja pärast seda, kus inimene ühes oma eluasemega juba ammugi ilmaruumist hävinenud, päike jahtunud ja põhjanael paigast nihutatud... (Tammsaare 1979: 62–63).
Vaino väidab, et selles kirglikus sõnavõtus visandab Anton Peetri poeg „muuhulgas pythagorasliku kujutluse sfääride harmooniast, millega seostuvad Tammsaare loomingu mõned võtmeküsimused. Mikrotasandil esinev kosmiline mõõde, mis ilmneb ka kõige väiksemas liivateras, on Tammsaare maailmatajule olemuslik” (Vaino 2011: 86). Uurija nimetab sellist osakeste ja terviku ringpeegelduse nägemust, mida läbib musica universalis, kirjaniku „veetilga-filosoofiaks” (Vaino 2011: 86), millega tema meelest seostub ka kirjaniku irratsionaalne ja religioosne taju. Irratsionaalsust kui mõistuseülesust ei maksa küll mõistusepuudusena võtta, vaid, vastupidi, filosoofide vana pähkli – kantiliku intellektuaalse kaemuse oksüümoroni ehk ületamatu lahkheli – möönmisena. Mõistmatuse universumi mõistmiseks jääb mõistusest põhimõtteliselt väheks, aga mida rohkem mõistust, seda parem. Ka sfääride muusika mõiste esindab ju rohkem ratsionaalset, mitte emotsionaalset kontseptsiooni.
Religiooni ja kosmilise muusika süvaseosele viitab kirjanik ise sama perioodi artiklis „Usust ja tema õpetusest” (1917), kus ta kuulutas, et „looduse, ilmade, kogumi lõpmatust” õpetab meid nägema usk, kuid „vaevalt võib küll üleüldse usku igaühele õpetada, sest usk on omataoline hingemuusika ja muusika tarvitab sellekohaseid meeli” (Tammsaare 1988b: 164). Küllalt antiklerikaalse, kuid mitte päris ateistliku kirjaniku arvates võib just sisekaemuslik usk avastada ja inimeses vabastada maailma vallutavat ratsionalismi ületavad salapärased jõud, kui vaid suudetaks liita ida intuitiivne ja lääne mehhaaniline vaimulaad. Nende kõrgemas ühenduses nägi ta võimalikku lunastust, uut messiat, nagu ta kirjutas 1937. aastal essees „Lunastus” (Tammsaare 1990: 223–228).
Seega ei olnud me esieepik radikaalne skeptik, kui ta väitis: „Maailmas pole midagi eba- ega üliloomulikku, kui inimene tunneb täiuslikult iseennast, sest inimene ja maailm on üks” (Tammsaare 1990: 227). Usklik või mitte, ja seda püsivalt või tükati, kuid kirjanik tajus hästi ning oskas rakendada üldinimlikke arhetüüpe, mis läbivad kultuuri vanatestamentlikku usutunnet, faustilikku müüditeadvust ja süvapsühholoogiat, kõnetades meid universaalselt. Kogu „eepilist” panoraamsust ja ülevust ei pea me ise leiutama, kui saab hästi juba olemasolevat kõlapinda kõmistada. Nii Jaan Kross (1979) kui ka Toomas Liiv (1989) toetavad sellist äratundmist.
Niisiis võib väita, et Tammsaare pealisülesandeks, nagu öeldakse lavakunstikeeles, ei olnud üksiti maa-, ühiskonna- või hingeelu kujutamine, olgu realistlikult, impressionistlikult või sümbolistlikult ehk nende sümbioosis, vaid mis tahes kirjelduse sisemine ja läbiv harmoneerimine, tunde- ja mõtteväljenduse põhitoonide kooskõla, tekstipartituuri sümfoonia. Ta ei tahtnud piirduda ainult olulise sisu, mimesis’ega, vaid otsis ka ideaalset väljendusviisi, suurt poiesis’t. Stilistina ei seisnud Tammsaare siin sugugi üksi: nii Tuglas, Gailit kui hooti ka Vilde hoolitsesid oma proosa sugestiivse rütmimulje eest.(2)
28 October 2016 14:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lüürilis-musikaalne hõllandus kujundas Tammsaare hinge ja paleusi. Nagu autor ise, nõnda ka uurijad on tajunud tema stiiliideaalide õnnelikku saavutamist juba „Kõrboja peremehes” (1922), nähes kinnistuvat ja süvenevat jätku sellele „Tões ja õiguses”. Tammsaare tekstilõimes kumisevat põhitooni on märkinud paljud tema käsitlejad. Juba Karl Mihkla tõstis esile „Kõrboja peremehe” rohked kordumised, mis „loovad romaanis lüürilise meeleolu ja heliseva rütmi” (Mihkla 1938: 94–95). Ka Richard Alekõrs tarvitas kaasaegsena muusika mõisteid, kuuldes Tammsaare teoste lõpplahendustes mitte ühte nooti, vaid tervet akordi (Alekõrs 1940: 161). Viimati on sfääride muusika mõistet rakendanud Toomas Haug (2010) ning põhjalikult Maarja Vaino (2011), kes rajas sellele oma doktoriväitekirja kontseptsiooni.
Luule või laiemalt kirjanduse ning muusika seosed ei olnud Tammsaare silmis siiski üksühesed. Kõlapilti peab loomeälevil kirjamees kahtlemata tähtsaks, kuid „kõlavus suudab vaevalt sõna tähenduse aset täita”; talle ei olnud tähtis mitte kõlavate sõnade ja lausete rittaladumine, vaid sõnade sisemine suur ja sügav tähendus, mille tõttu siis ka „kõlavus suureneb” (Tammsaare 1988a: 224). Sõna- ja helikunsti lähema sarnastamise suhtes oli ta targu kriitiline: „Aga luule iseäraldus muusikaga võrreldes on just see, et ta mitte ainult muusika ei ole. Miks peaksimegi sõnadega muusikat tegema, kui seda helidega paremini võime! Ainult halvad muusikamehed võisid selle veidra mõtte peale tulla. [---] Keelt helide asemele seada on otstarbekohatu” (Tammsaare 1988a: 224).
Poeetilist instrumenteerimist eesmärgina eneses kaldus Tammsaare seega pigem eitama, otsides muusikalisust rohkem sõnade tavatähenduste avardumisest, sõnumi arhetüüpsest ehk „kosmilisest” sümboolikast ja tundelisest põhitoonist. Harmoonia loomisel on helikunstil eeliseid sõnakunsti ees, miska on mõistlik taotleda liigiomast eripära muusika välise jäljendamise asemel. Eks selletaoline modernistlik-sümbolistlik ettekujutusviis esinda pesuehtsat logotsentrismi: üldisem ja sügavam mõte kumagu läbi teose igast elemendist nagu tuluke alabastervaasis. Seesama uusromantiline idee kerkis hiljem juhtmõtteks ju ka formalismis-strukturalismis.
Iseloomulikult nõuab arvustav kirjanik poeetidelt luuletuse keskendamist tervikmõju ümber, samuti kui „suurematelt töödelt – näidenditelt, novellidelt, romaanidelt jne. – nõutakse teatud keskpunkti, kuhu kõik loodelõngad kokku võdisevad; nõutakse omapärast meeleolu, mille vastu ei tohi patustada ja mis oleks teose nõrgumata eluallikas” (Tammsaare 1988a: 227). Vaja on, „et mikrokosmoses makrokosmost aimama hakataks. Suuremas teoses pääseb maitstes ühise meeleolu, koguhelevuse vastu patustamisest veel kuidagi mööda, mõnerealises luuletuses ei lepita sellega kunagi” (Tammsaare 1988a: 227). Väliste vormitrikkide asemel olgu niisiis eesmärgiks „lihtsa, tahaks öelda klassikaliku keele leidmine” – „Aga katsutagu seda lihtsust jäljendada, ilma et keel oma kõla, rütmi, tüsedust, painduvust ja kujutusvõimet kaotaks – ilma et ta labaseks muutuks!” (Tammsaare 1988a: 231). Tammsaare arvates ei olnud tarvis leiutada uut tehiskeelt, vaid „[v]ana, olevat taguda, pinnida, teda kokku muljuda ja venitada, sõnade tähendust süvendada, laiendada ja varjundada – see tarvitab rasket, kannatlikku ja püsivat tööd”, kuigi „[i]ga töö nõuab lõpuks teatud jumalikku loomisesädemekest” (Tammsaare 1988a: 231). See sädemeke seisab küll „sealpool teadvuse läve; ta on saladus teistele ja loojale omale” – Suitsule, Tuglasele, Vildele, Ridalale (Tammsaare 1988a: 232), kuid arutluse eufooria lubab aimata, et loomise saladus on tal vist juba üles leitud, tootlik meetod avastatud.
Autori õnnelikest veenetest lähtub oma stiilivaatlustes ka Erna Siirak (Tillemann 1940; Siirak 1977). Kuigi 1940. aastal arvas kriitik veel, et „Tammsaarel pole hea stilisti kuulsust”, mõistis ta selgelt osutada silmatorkavale rütmi fenomenile: „Mis puutub Tammsaare lause rütmi, siis ei saa ju salata, et ta lause on mõnikord lohisev ja hoota, paisatud paberile nagu rutuga, ilma vähimagi teadliku kohendamiseta. Aga ei tule unustada, et me teinekord leiame temal ka silmapaistvalt hästikorraldatud perioode, kus rütmilained on arenenud vägagi mõjurikkaks. Loetagu ainult „Kõrboja peremehest” lk. 49, kus heinategemise rütm on otse meisterlikult edasi antud. Ja lk. 74 sealsamas on tantsurütm sõna otseses mõttes kantud lausesse. Ja Tammsaare uusromantilise ajajärgu lehekülgedel leiame Tammsaare lause rütmistumist üsna peenetundlikuks sõna- ja häälikutemänguks” (Tillemann 1940: 320).
Poeetika käsitleb rütmi kui foneetilis-süntaktilist kordamist, sarnase keelematerjali parallelismi ehk identsuse ja diferentsi korrapära. Nii kirjutab tarmukas noor uurija:
Luule või laiemalt kirjanduse ning muusika seosed ei olnud Tammsaare silmis siiski üksühesed. Kõlapilti peab loomeälevil kirjamees kahtlemata tähtsaks, kuid „kõlavus suudab vaevalt sõna tähenduse aset täita”; talle ei olnud tähtis mitte kõlavate sõnade ja lausete rittaladumine, vaid sõnade sisemine suur ja sügav tähendus, mille tõttu siis ka „kõlavus suureneb” (Tammsaare 1988a: 224). Sõna- ja helikunsti lähema sarnastamise suhtes oli ta targu kriitiline: „Aga luule iseäraldus muusikaga võrreldes on just see, et ta mitte ainult muusika ei ole. Miks peaksimegi sõnadega muusikat tegema, kui seda helidega paremini võime! Ainult halvad muusikamehed võisid selle veidra mõtte peale tulla. [---] Keelt helide asemele seada on otstarbekohatu” (Tammsaare 1988a: 224).
Poeetilist instrumenteerimist eesmärgina eneses kaldus Tammsaare seega pigem eitama, otsides muusikalisust rohkem sõnade tavatähenduste avardumisest, sõnumi arhetüüpsest ehk „kosmilisest” sümboolikast ja tundelisest põhitoonist. Harmoonia loomisel on helikunstil eeliseid sõnakunsti ees, miska on mõistlik taotleda liigiomast eripära muusika välise jäljendamise asemel. Eks selletaoline modernistlik-sümbolistlik ettekujutusviis esinda pesuehtsat logotsentrismi: üldisem ja sügavam mõte kumagu läbi teose igast elemendist nagu tuluke alabastervaasis. Seesama uusromantiline idee kerkis hiljem juhtmõtteks ju ka formalismis-strukturalismis.
Iseloomulikult nõuab arvustav kirjanik poeetidelt luuletuse keskendamist tervikmõju ümber, samuti kui „suurematelt töödelt – näidenditelt, novellidelt, romaanidelt jne. – nõutakse teatud keskpunkti, kuhu kõik loodelõngad kokku võdisevad; nõutakse omapärast meeleolu, mille vastu ei tohi patustada ja mis oleks teose nõrgumata eluallikas” (Tammsaare 1988a: 227). Vaja on, „et mikrokosmoses makrokosmost aimama hakataks. Suuremas teoses pääseb maitstes ühise meeleolu, koguhelevuse vastu patustamisest veel kuidagi mööda, mõnerealises luuletuses ei lepita sellega kunagi” (Tammsaare 1988a: 227). Väliste vormitrikkide asemel olgu niisiis eesmärgiks „lihtsa, tahaks öelda klassikaliku keele leidmine” – „Aga katsutagu seda lihtsust jäljendada, ilma et keel oma kõla, rütmi, tüsedust, painduvust ja kujutusvõimet kaotaks – ilma et ta labaseks muutuks!” (Tammsaare 1988a: 231). Tammsaare arvates ei olnud tarvis leiutada uut tehiskeelt, vaid „[v]ana, olevat taguda, pinnida, teda kokku muljuda ja venitada, sõnade tähendust süvendada, laiendada ja varjundada – see tarvitab rasket, kannatlikku ja püsivat tööd”, kuigi „[i]ga töö nõuab lõpuks teatud jumalikku loomisesädemekest” (Tammsaare 1988a: 231). See sädemeke seisab küll „sealpool teadvuse läve; ta on saladus teistele ja loojale omale” – Suitsule, Tuglasele, Vildele, Ridalale (Tammsaare 1988a: 232), kuid arutluse eufooria lubab aimata, et loomise saladus on tal vist juba üles leitud, tootlik meetod avastatud.
Autori õnnelikest veenetest lähtub oma stiilivaatlustes ka Erna Siirak (Tillemann 1940; Siirak 1977). Kuigi 1940. aastal arvas kriitik veel, et „Tammsaarel pole hea stilisti kuulsust”, mõistis ta selgelt osutada silmatorkavale rütmi fenomenile: „Mis puutub Tammsaare lause rütmi, siis ei saa ju salata, et ta lause on mõnikord lohisev ja hoota, paisatud paberile nagu rutuga, ilma vähimagi teadliku kohendamiseta. Aga ei tule unustada, et me teinekord leiame temal ka silmapaistvalt hästikorraldatud perioode, kus rütmilained on arenenud vägagi mõjurikkaks. Loetagu ainult „Kõrboja peremehest” lk. 49, kus heinategemise rütm on otse meisterlikult edasi antud. Ja lk. 74 sealsamas on tantsurütm sõna otseses mõttes kantud lausesse. Ja Tammsaare uusromantilise ajajärgu lehekülgedel leiame Tammsaare lause rütmistumist üsna peenetundlikuks sõna- ja häälikutemänguks” (Tillemann 1940: 320).
Poeetika käsitleb rütmi kui foneetilis-süntaktilist kordamist, sarnase keelematerjali parallelismi ehk identsuse ja diferentsi korrapära. Nii kirjutab tarmukas noor uurija:
28 October 2016 14:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
TAMMSAARE AGA-OMETI - KOSMILINE MUUSIKA
Raadio Muusikamoos
SISSEJUHATUS
Viiulimängijana oli A. H. Tammsaare sügavalt mõjutatud muusikast. Ta mõistis hästi mõtiskluse tundetoone tabada ja pidada. Juba tema proosalüürikast alates võib tähele panna musikaalse häälestuse ja väljenduse otsimist. Sõnastuse sisendavat rütmi võib tajuda ka tema küpsemas proosaeepikas. Musikaalsus avaldub sügaval stiiliühtsuse tasandil, mille kirjeldamisel on ikka tsiteeritud „nõmmede ja laante helisemist” või kiidetud maalähedast onomatopöad (vt Siirak 1963: 330; Haug 2010: 37; Vaino 2011: 80–94).
Arvustajana või oma tegelaste suu läbi on kirjanik ise muusikale – helide kõikeläbivale võnkumisele – korduvalt tähelepanu juhtinud. Meloodilisuse kõrval on ta rütmi küsimust ehk otsesõnu vähem rõhutanud, kuid tähtsustab nii looja kui ka kriitikuna selgelt „kosmilise muusika” „rütmilise, arvupäralise võdina” (Tammsaare 1979: 62) esmasust olemises ja väljenduses. Neile tunnistustele toetudes on mitmedki tõlgendajad imetlenud sugereerivaid kordusi, mis on tema romaanide iseloomulikuks tunnuseks. Kõige nähtavama rütmimalli ehk rohkete rinnastavate vastanduse jadade alusel võiks tinglikult üldistades tema isikupärast stiili nimetada eepiliseks aga-mantraks. Või, olenevalt aspektist, proosapoeetiliseks aga-meetrumiks või eepiliseks polüsündetoniks (sidesõnakuseks) või filosoofiliseks aga-dialektikaks.Küllap lähtub selletaolisest avarast, kompositsioonitasandi lause-kõlakujundist ehk diskursiivsest parallelismist ka tuntud klišee Tammsaarest kui targutajast, kuna vastav mulje on kerge sugenema tõrksale või jupiti lugejale, kellele ei mõju veerevad tunde- ja mõttekordused hüpnootiliselt.(1) Eks ole kirjandus kaasaloomise kunst: tahame või ei taha.
KOSMILINE MUUSIKA
1915. aastal, kui Tammsaare oma miniatuurides lähenes proosaluulele ja sümbolismile, avaldas ta pikema arvustusliku essee „Keelest ja luulest”. Selles seab ta eeskujuks Goethe, Schilleri, Lermontovi ja Gustav Suitsu „Kerkokella”, nõudes luulelt, et „väline keele kõla ning sisemine hingeline helin” kokku sulaksid (Tammsaare 1988a: 225). Sellises kooskõlas avaldub „hing, sügavalt tuntud helevus, mis sõnadel peatades aina süveneb ja laieneb” (Tammsaare 1988a: 226). Kirjanik pihib heldinult: „...mäletan... juhtumisi, kus sõnade tähendus, nende põimitult keskendatud kogu-tähendus lõi unustamata silmapilkusid. Meelest vaibus sõnade kõla ja ma andusin mingisugusele sisemisele, tähenduse loodud avaruste helinale, mille sünnitamises ainult muusika sedasama võib. [---] Mõne lihtsa ja päris hariliku sõnaga nõiuvad laulikud siin imelise helevuse lugeja hinge ja helevus laieneks nagu terveks looduslikuks ilmavaateks, avarduks nagu omasuguseks ilmaks” (Tammsaare 1988a: 224–225). Essee lõppsõnas „uneleb” peatne epopöa autor „õndsusest”: „Ja oleksin ma luuletaja, siis looksin ma mingisuguse eeposetaolise teose, täis olemiserõõmu ehakurdet ja koidulõket. Aga tähelpanemata sikutaksin ma kõige selle lõkatava õndsuse üle nukruseliniku; mitte Koidu ja Hämariku moodustamiseks, vaid et aimata lasta, mäherduse härdusega meie, surelikud, nende õndsusest uneleme” (Tammsaare 1988a: 249). See ei tundu tavalise avaldusena teiste mõtete reas, vaid mõjub kui kunstiline kreedo. Püüame omalt poolt tema poeetilist usutunnistust analüütiliste argumentidega sisustada.
http://kjak.eki.ee/ee/issues/2015/5/639
Raadio Muusikamoos
SISSEJUHATUS
Viiulimängijana oli A. H. Tammsaare sügavalt mõjutatud muusikast. Ta mõistis hästi mõtiskluse tundetoone tabada ja pidada. Juba tema proosalüürikast alates võib tähele panna musikaalse häälestuse ja väljenduse otsimist. Sõnastuse sisendavat rütmi võib tajuda ka tema küpsemas proosaeepikas. Musikaalsus avaldub sügaval stiiliühtsuse tasandil, mille kirjeldamisel on ikka tsiteeritud „nõmmede ja laante helisemist” või kiidetud maalähedast onomatopöad (vt Siirak 1963: 330; Haug 2010: 37; Vaino 2011: 80–94).
Arvustajana või oma tegelaste suu läbi on kirjanik ise muusikale – helide kõikeläbivale võnkumisele – korduvalt tähelepanu juhtinud. Meloodilisuse kõrval on ta rütmi küsimust ehk otsesõnu vähem rõhutanud, kuid tähtsustab nii looja kui ka kriitikuna selgelt „kosmilise muusika” „rütmilise, arvupäralise võdina” (Tammsaare 1979: 62) esmasust olemises ja väljenduses. Neile tunnistustele toetudes on mitmedki tõlgendajad imetlenud sugereerivaid kordusi, mis on tema romaanide iseloomulikuks tunnuseks. Kõige nähtavama rütmimalli ehk rohkete rinnastavate vastanduse jadade alusel võiks tinglikult üldistades tema isikupärast stiili nimetada eepiliseks aga-mantraks. Või, olenevalt aspektist, proosapoeetiliseks aga-meetrumiks või eepiliseks polüsündetoniks (sidesõnakuseks) või filosoofiliseks aga-dialektikaks.Küllap lähtub selletaolisest avarast, kompositsioonitasandi lause-kõlakujundist ehk diskursiivsest parallelismist ka tuntud klišee Tammsaarest kui targutajast, kuna vastav mulje on kerge sugenema tõrksale või jupiti lugejale, kellele ei mõju veerevad tunde- ja mõttekordused hüpnootiliselt.(1) Eks ole kirjandus kaasaloomise kunst: tahame või ei taha.
KOSMILINE MUUSIKA
1915. aastal, kui Tammsaare oma miniatuurides lähenes proosaluulele ja sümbolismile, avaldas ta pikema arvustusliku essee „Keelest ja luulest”. Selles seab ta eeskujuks Goethe, Schilleri, Lermontovi ja Gustav Suitsu „Kerkokella”, nõudes luulelt, et „väline keele kõla ning sisemine hingeline helin” kokku sulaksid (Tammsaare 1988a: 225). Sellises kooskõlas avaldub „hing, sügavalt tuntud helevus, mis sõnadel peatades aina süveneb ja laieneb” (Tammsaare 1988a: 226). Kirjanik pihib heldinult: „...mäletan... juhtumisi, kus sõnade tähendus, nende põimitult keskendatud kogu-tähendus lõi unustamata silmapilkusid. Meelest vaibus sõnade kõla ja ma andusin mingisugusele sisemisele, tähenduse loodud avaruste helinale, mille sünnitamises ainult muusika sedasama võib. [---] Mõne lihtsa ja päris hariliku sõnaga nõiuvad laulikud siin imelise helevuse lugeja hinge ja helevus laieneks nagu terveks looduslikuks ilmavaateks, avarduks nagu omasuguseks ilmaks” (Tammsaare 1988a: 224–225). Essee lõppsõnas „uneleb” peatne epopöa autor „õndsusest”: „Ja oleksin ma luuletaja, siis looksin ma mingisuguse eeposetaolise teose, täis olemiserõõmu ehakurdet ja koidulõket. Aga tähelpanemata sikutaksin ma kõige selle lõkatava õndsuse üle nukruseliniku; mitte Koidu ja Hämariku moodustamiseks, vaid et aimata lasta, mäherduse härdusega meie, surelikud, nende õndsusest uneleme” (Tammsaare 1988a: 249). See ei tundu tavalise avaldusena teiste mõtete reas, vaid mõjub kui kunstiline kreedo. Püüame omalt poolt tema poeetilist usutunnistust analüütiliste argumentidega sisustada.
http://kjak.eki.ee/ee/issues/2015/5/639
http://kjak.eki.ee/ee/issues/2015/5/639
28 October 2016 14:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Saksa keele- ja kirjandusteadlane, suurteose „Baltikumi kirjandused“ autor Friedrich Scholtz, üks terasemaid Tammsaare epopöa kommenteerijaid, on nimetanud Tammsaare viimast romaani „paradoksaalseks süntagmaks“ (Scholtz 2001, 141). Scholtziga tuleb nõustuda, et Tammsaare „Põrgupõhja uues Vanapaganas“ „käiakse halastamatut kohut Jumala ja maailmaga ühes kõigi selle pahede ja nõrkustega“, kuid selle kohtuskäigu eesmärk pole mitte jumalaeitus, vaid tõeseletuse otsing, mille transtsendentaalsust ja seetõttu ka leidmata jäämist aitab inimesena taluda vaid absurditunne, iroonia ning naer (samas, 142).
Asjata ei pidanud Tammsaare ise oma mantlipärijaks Karl Ristikivi, kelle romaanidest loeme ristisõdade ummikujooksust („Põlev lipp“, „Viimne linn“ ja „Surma ratsanikud“), kes „Mõrsjalinikus“ jälgib katoliku pühaku saatust, aga kelle „Inimese teekond“ on ehedaimal kujul tõdemus inimolendi tühisusest ja nõrkusest kõiksuse ehk Jumala ees, kuid kes poleks siiski inimese nime väärt, kui ta vähemalt ei püüdleks enesest suurema poole, olla rohkem kui inimene.
Võiks ju oletada, et nõukogudeaegsest eesti kirjandusest on mõttetu otsida kristliku väärtusõpetuse jälgi, või kui, siis üksnes ateistliku agressiivsusega ümbritsetult. Kuid, nagu selle aja kirjandusele omaselt, oli religioossus siingi peidetud ridade vahele. Üks nende aegade ilmutuslikumaid tekste on 1983. aastal ilmunud Hando Runneli luuletsükkel „Ilus maa“, hümn truudusele, armastusele, perele – kristlikuski väärtusõpetuses kesksetele mõistetele. Juba ülalnimetatud Jaan Undusk on uurinud ja tuvastanud Juhan Smuuli sügavat religioossust, mis omamoodi värdjalikul kujul avaldus „Poeemis Stalinile“ (Undusk 1998, 137–164), teisalt aga vägagi tajutava probleemina näidendis „Lea“.
On oluline osutada sellelegi, et iga sügavusele pretendeeriv kirjandusteos, olgu see romaan või luule, võimendab oma sõnumit Piiblist pärit kujundite või motiivistikuga. Olen juba varem käsitlenud Piiblit eesti kirjanduse arhetekstina (Veidemann 2010).
See on igasuguse esteetiliselt ja eetiliselt tõsiseltvõetava kirjanduse infrastruktuur. See ei pruugi olla nähtaval, aga kui selle avastamiseni jõutakse, siis seda võimsamalt üks või teine kirjandusteos meid kõnetab. Milan Kundera on öelnud, et romaan peaks olema teos ja romaanikirjanik eksistentsi uurija (Kundera 1998, 22, 43). Kuid nõustutagu: Piibel kristluse metatekstina – nii on Toomas Paul Piiblit kutsunud (Paul 1999, 49, 52) – on samuti ennekõike uurimus inimesest ning tema väärtusilmast. Piibel on Teos.
Viidatud kirjandus
Henriku Liivimaa kroonika. Tallinn: Eesti Raamat, 1982.
Kalda, M. (2004) „Laula, laula, pappi“ – M. Kalda. Mis loom see on? Tartu: Eesti Kirjandusmuuseum.
Kundera, M. (1998) Romaanikunst. Loomingu Raamatukogu 11/12.
Kõivupuu, M (2009) Hinged puhkavad puudes. Tallinn: Huma.
Masing, U. (1999) Eesti vanema kirjakeele lood. Tartu: Ilmamaa.
Masing, U. (2004) Keelest ja meelest. Tartu: Ilmamaa.
Paul, T. (1999) Eesti piiblitõlke ajalugu. Tallinn: Emakeele Selts.
Sapir, E. (2009) Keel. Tallinn: Eesti Keele Sihtasutus.
Scholtz, F. (2001) „Paradoksi väljendusvormid Anton Hansen-Tammsaare romaanis „Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan““ – E. Treier, koost, Tammsaare maailmakirjanikuna. Tallinn: Olion.
Sutrop, U. (2004) „Saateks“ – Masing 2004, 5–11.
Undusk, J. (1987) „Melanhoolne Luts: „Kevade““ – Keel ja Kirjandus 1, 25–35.
Undusk, J. (1998) Maagiline müstiline keel. Virgela.
Veidemann, R. (2010) „Piibel kui eesti kirjanduskultuuri arhetekst“ – Con amore. Istoriko-filologičeskij sbornik v čestj Ljubovi Nikolajevny Kiseljevoi. O.G.I. Moskva, 2010, 73–82.
Vihalemm, P., toim (2004) Meediasüsteem ja meediakasutus Eestis 1965–2004. Tartu Ülikooli Kirjastus.
Vilde, E. (2013) Külmale maale. Mixi kirjastus.
Vinkel, A. (1966) Eesti rahvaraamat. Tallinn: Eesti Raamat.
Essee aluseks on 3. detsembril 2014. aastal Usuteaduse Instituudis peetud ettekanne. Vt Toimus konverents „Kristlikud väärtused usu, kultuuri ja praktika kontekstis: koostöö Eesti loo loomisel vabariigi 100. sünnipäevaks“ (K&T nr 156/ 5.12.2014) ja Randar Tasmuth, „Kristlikud väärtused väärtuste turul: arutlus inimlikust eristusvõimest“ (K&T nr 158/ 19.12.2014).
Rein Veidemann (1946) on kirjandusteadlane, kirjanik ja Tallinna Ülikooli Eesti Humanitaarinstituudi kultuuriloo professor.
Asjata ei pidanud Tammsaare ise oma mantlipärijaks Karl Ristikivi, kelle romaanidest loeme ristisõdade ummikujooksust („Põlev lipp“, „Viimne linn“ ja „Surma ratsanikud“), kes „Mõrsjalinikus“ jälgib katoliku pühaku saatust, aga kelle „Inimese teekond“ on ehedaimal kujul tõdemus inimolendi tühisusest ja nõrkusest kõiksuse ehk Jumala ees, kuid kes poleks siiski inimese nime väärt, kui ta vähemalt ei püüdleks enesest suurema poole, olla rohkem kui inimene.
Võiks ju oletada, et nõukogudeaegsest eesti kirjandusest on mõttetu otsida kristliku väärtusõpetuse jälgi, või kui, siis üksnes ateistliku agressiivsusega ümbritsetult. Kuid, nagu selle aja kirjandusele omaselt, oli religioossus siingi peidetud ridade vahele. Üks nende aegade ilmutuslikumaid tekste on 1983. aastal ilmunud Hando Runneli luuletsükkel „Ilus maa“, hümn truudusele, armastusele, perele – kristlikuski väärtusõpetuses kesksetele mõistetele. Juba ülalnimetatud Jaan Undusk on uurinud ja tuvastanud Juhan Smuuli sügavat religioossust, mis omamoodi värdjalikul kujul avaldus „Poeemis Stalinile“ (Undusk 1998, 137–164), teisalt aga vägagi tajutava probleemina näidendis „Lea“.
On oluline osutada sellelegi, et iga sügavusele pretendeeriv kirjandusteos, olgu see romaan või luule, võimendab oma sõnumit Piiblist pärit kujundite või motiivistikuga. Olen juba varem käsitlenud Piiblit eesti kirjanduse arhetekstina (Veidemann 2010).
See on igasuguse esteetiliselt ja eetiliselt tõsiseltvõetava kirjanduse infrastruktuur. See ei pruugi olla nähtaval, aga kui selle avastamiseni jõutakse, siis seda võimsamalt üks või teine kirjandusteos meid kõnetab. Milan Kundera on öelnud, et romaan peaks olema teos ja romaanikirjanik eksistentsi uurija (Kundera 1998, 22, 43). Kuid nõustutagu: Piibel kristluse metatekstina – nii on Toomas Paul Piiblit kutsunud (Paul 1999, 49, 52) – on samuti ennekõike uurimus inimesest ning tema väärtusilmast. Piibel on Teos.
Viidatud kirjandus
Henriku Liivimaa kroonika. Tallinn: Eesti Raamat, 1982.
Kalda, M. (2004) „Laula, laula, pappi“ – M. Kalda. Mis loom see on? Tartu: Eesti Kirjandusmuuseum.
Kundera, M. (1998) Romaanikunst. Loomingu Raamatukogu 11/12.
Kõivupuu, M (2009) Hinged puhkavad puudes. Tallinn: Huma.
Masing, U. (1999) Eesti vanema kirjakeele lood. Tartu: Ilmamaa.
Masing, U. (2004) Keelest ja meelest. Tartu: Ilmamaa.
Paul, T. (1999) Eesti piiblitõlke ajalugu. Tallinn: Emakeele Selts.
Sapir, E. (2009) Keel. Tallinn: Eesti Keele Sihtasutus.
Scholtz, F. (2001) „Paradoksi väljendusvormid Anton Hansen-Tammsaare romaanis „Põrgupõhja uus Vanapagan““ – E. Treier, koost, Tammsaare maailmakirjanikuna. Tallinn: Olion.
Sutrop, U. (2004) „Saateks“ – Masing 2004, 5–11.
Undusk, J. (1987) „Melanhoolne Luts: „Kevade““ – Keel ja Kirjandus 1, 25–35.
Undusk, J. (1998) Maagiline müstiline keel. Virgela.
Veidemann, R. (2010) „Piibel kui eesti kirjanduskultuuri arhetekst“ – Con amore. Istoriko-filologičeskij sbornik v čestj Ljubovi Nikolajevny Kiseljevoi. O.G.I. Moskva, 2010, 73–82.
Vihalemm, P., toim (2004) Meediasüsteem ja meediakasutus Eestis 1965–2004. Tartu Ülikooli Kirjastus.
Vilde, E. (2013) Külmale maale. Mixi kirjastus.
Vinkel, A. (1966) Eesti rahvaraamat. Tallinn: Eesti Raamat.
Essee aluseks on 3. detsembril 2014. aastal Usuteaduse Instituudis peetud ettekanne. Vt Toimus konverents „Kristlikud väärtused usu, kultuuri ja praktika kontekstis: koostöö Eesti loo loomisel vabariigi 100. sünnipäevaks“ (K&T nr 156/ 5.12.2014) ja Randar Tasmuth, „Kristlikud väärtused väärtuste turul: arutlus inimlikust eristusvõimest“ (K&T nr 158/ 19.12.2014).
Rein Veidemann (1946) on kirjandusteadlane, kirjanik ja Tallinna Ülikooli Eesti Humanitaarinstituudi kultuuriloo professor.
28 October 2016 14:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kristliku väärtusõpetuse avaldumisest ja käekäigust eesti kirjanduskultuuris pakub hea ülevaate Aarne Vinkeli raamat sümptomaatilise pealkirjaga „Eesti rahvaraamat“ (Vinkel 1966). Mõjutatud küll oma kirjutamis- ja ilmumisaja ideoloogilis-retoorilisest mustrist – raamat ilmus 1966. aastal –, on see ometi usaldusväärne sissevaade eesti talurahva lugemisvarasse 18.–19. sajandil, ajal, mida võiksime pidada piltlikult kogu rahva algkooliks. Selleks on kõigepealt kalendrikirjandus. Nii jutustati näiteks 1731. aastal trükitud „Eesti-Ma Rahwa Kalendris“ ümber eesti keeles veel ilmumata Vana Testamendi tekste. Esimesed ilukirjanduslikud tekstidki olid piiblilugude mugandused, millest levinuim oli jutustus Jeruusalemma linna hävitamisest.
Esimene eestikeelne luuletus, Käsu Hansu eleegia „Oh! Ma vaene Tarto liin“ kannab üle ajaloosügavikus aset leidnud sündmuse kujundina Põhjasõjas hävitatud Tartu linnale, seejuures moraliseeriva sõnumiga mitte elada patuelu.
Esimene poolilmalik juturaamat ilmus lõuna-eesti keeles Urvaste pastorilt Johann Christian Quandtilt, kelle sünnist täitus 2014. aastal 310 aastat. Rõhutagem, et esimesed kirjanikudki Eestis olid pastorid või köstrid, alates Quandtist ja lõpetades Johann Voldemar Jannseniga. 20. sajandi vaimulikest on end kirjandusklassikuks kirjutanud Ain Kalmus (kodanikunimega Evald Mänd).
Aarne Vinkel peab poolilmalikkuse all aga silmas seda, et raamatu süžees ei sisaldu Piiblist tulenevaid otseseid ettekirjutusi või viiteid Piiblile. Karistuse ähvardusega kaasnev käsuõpetus andis ruumi kujundlikumale, mõistukõnelisemale esitusele. Ometi nii nende kui ka juba järgnevate ilmalike tekstide puhul oli moraal selgelt nähtav ja see oli suunatud lugejas vooruslikkuse äratamisele, vagadusele ning õiglusele ehk siis neile samadele väärtustele, mida kandsid endas positiivsete eeskujudena pakutavad piiblikangelased.
Kristlik väärtusõpetus, nii nagu see tollases rahvaraamatus ilmneb, näib olevat mõeldud vaeste lohutuseks. Põltsamaal trükikoja asutanud arsti Peter Ernst Wilde ja pastor August Wilhelm Hupeli 1766–1767 ilmunud „Lühikesest õpetusest“ alates hakatakse aga usaldama talupoega ennast, tema võimet ise ilma Jumala abita kasvada, areneda ja eluga hakkama saada. Selgelt on siin tajutav Euroopas vallandunud valgustuse mõju. 19. sajandi esimestel kümnenditel keskendub sotsiaalpedagoogiline kirjandus eestlaste uue pahe, liigjoomise tõrjumisele. Enne Friedrich Reinhold Kreutzwaldi „Viinakatku“ (1840) ilmub mitu raamatut, milles manitsetakse kasinusele ning näidatakse puust ja punaselt ette, millise allakäiguni võib viia viinatõbi. Huvitav on täheldada, et juba siis käsitlesid toonased kirjamehed, Kreutzwald nende hulgas, alkoholismi patoloogiana, mille vastu saab üksnes jäägitu karskusega. Mitte aga nii, nagu hilisemas tõlgenduspraktikas on ette tulnud: viinajoomine kui üksnes sotsiaalselt tingitud pahe.
Kui eespool sai väidetud, et eestlaste varasemas lugemisvaras domineerinud kristliku väärtusõpetuse otse Piiblist käsuõpetusena kopeerimine hakkab taanduma 18. sajandi lõpus ja 19. sajandi alguses, siis 19. sajandi lõpus näeme juba seda õpetust ilmnemas probleemina. Tüüpnäiteks on siin Eduard Vilde romaan „Külmale maale“ (1896), omamoodi esimene, tõsi küll, kirikuvastasusest kantud sümbolistliku lõpuga inimese „õndsaks saamise“ romaan. Vaesuses vaevlev Väljaotsa Jaan, tema armastatu Virgu Anni, Virgu talu peremees Andres, kirikuõpetaja Frick – kõik nad on ümbritsetavad Piibli metafoorikaga. See tipneb varguses süüdistatava Väljaotsa Jaani kohtuprotsessi võrdlemises viimse kohtupäevaga („Nõnda jõudis viimaks suur kohtupäev kätte“) (Vilde 2013, 162). Vilde ise on küll esitlenud romaani kui sotsialistist kirjaniku ühiskonnakriitilist teost, ent pole raske märgata selle läbivat motiivi „kurjusega silditatust“, kes jääbki lunastamata. Virgu Annis kehastub kristlik ohvrimeelne armastus. Seesugust tõlgendusmustrit romaani käsitlemisel võiks jätkata.
20. sajandi eesti kirjanduse üks religioossemaid teoseid, nagu on osutanud akadeemik Jaan Undusk – ta on seda ka Piibli arhetüüpseid tegelasi romaanis iseloomustades avanud –, on Oskar Lutsu „Kevade“ (Undusk 1987). „Kevade“ väärtusõpetuslik sõnum on paradiisliku lapsepõlvekodu meenutamises, kristliku (halastava, ühendava) armuõpetuse kuulutamises. See on ühtaegu eestlaste kui ajalukku astunud rahva lapsepõlvelugu, teiselt poolt – kui nii tohiks öelda – eksistentsiaalne kristlus, küsimus lootuse ja lohutuse olemusest. Näeme seda Arno mitmes monoloogis, aga ka näiteks õpetaja Lauri (muuseas, „Kevades“ on kolm erinevat õpetaja kuju, praost, köster ja ilmalik koolmeister) kutses harida oma vaimu kõigile takistustele vaatamata. Seesugust eksistentsiaalset kristlust, aga sedapuhku tõe, õiguse ja õigluse teljel, on kahtlemata enim väljendanud Anton Hansen Tammsaare kõigis oma „Tõe ja õiguse“ köidetes. Tammsaaret lugedes kogeme nimelt seda, kuidas üks ja seesama väärtussüsteem avaneb paradoksina. Võrreldagu kasvõi Andrest ja Pearut võitluses oma õiguste eest, jälgitagu Indreku mässu Jumala vastu ja ometi nõustumist jumaliku ime olemasoluga. Või Andrese kõnelusi iseendaga läbi Piibli uurimise. Paradoks avaldub juba kasvõi selles, üldkeelde läinud vana Andrese lauses „Tee tööd ja näe vaeva, siis tuleb armastus“, millele poeg Andres vastab, et tema ju, isa Andres on seda näinud, aga armastust pole Vargamäele tulnud (Tammsaare 1981, 492–493). „Tõde ja õigust“ võib võtta kui eestlaste lõppematu liikumise metafoori oma Tõotatud maa poole. Ning otsekui selle pessimistlikuks krooniks kirjutab Tammsaare „Põrgupõhja uue Vanapagana“, sügavalt eksistentsialistliku romaani 20. sajandi eestlase õndsaks saamise tungist, mis Piibli metafoorikat kasutades, on dialoogis, koguni vaidluses kristliku väärtusõpetusega, pannes lugejat järele mõtlema hea ja kurja, mõttetuna näiva töö ja elumõtte, kohustuse ja vastutuse dialektika üle.
Esimene eestikeelne luuletus, Käsu Hansu eleegia „Oh! Ma vaene Tarto liin“ kannab üle ajaloosügavikus aset leidnud sündmuse kujundina Põhjasõjas hävitatud Tartu linnale, seejuures moraliseeriva sõnumiga mitte elada patuelu.
Esimene poolilmalik juturaamat ilmus lõuna-eesti keeles Urvaste pastorilt Johann Christian Quandtilt, kelle sünnist täitus 2014. aastal 310 aastat. Rõhutagem, et esimesed kirjanikudki Eestis olid pastorid või köstrid, alates Quandtist ja lõpetades Johann Voldemar Jannseniga. 20. sajandi vaimulikest on end kirjandusklassikuks kirjutanud Ain Kalmus (kodanikunimega Evald Mänd).
Aarne Vinkel peab poolilmalikkuse all aga silmas seda, et raamatu süžees ei sisaldu Piiblist tulenevaid otseseid ettekirjutusi või viiteid Piiblile. Karistuse ähvardusega kaasnev käsuõpetus andis ruumi kujundlikumale, mõistukõnelisemale esitusele. Ometi nii nende kui ka juba järgnevate ilmalike tekstide puhul oli moraal selgelt nähtav ja see oli suunatud lugejas vooruslikkuse äratamisele, vagadusele ning õiglusele ehk siis neile samadele väärtustele, mida kandsid endas positiivsete eeskujudena pakutavad piiblikangelased.
Kristlik väärtusõpetus, nii nagu see tollases rahvaraamatus ilmneb, näib olevat mõeldud vaeste lohutuseks. Põltsamaal trükikoja asutanud arsti Peter Ernst Wilde ja pastor August Wilhelm Hupeli 1766–1767 ilmunud „Lühikesest õpetusest“ alates hakatakse aga usaldama talupoega ennast, tema võimet ise ilma Jumala abita kasvada, areneda ja eluga hakkama saada. Selgelt on siin tajutav Euroopas vallandunud valgustuse mõju. 19. sajandi esimestel kümnenditel keskendub sotsiaalpedagoogiline kirjandus eestlaste uue pahe, liigjoomise tõrjumisele. Enne Friedrich Reinhold Kreutzwaldi „Viinakatku“ (1840) ilmub mitu raamatut, milles manitsetakse kasinusele ning näidatakse puust ja punaselt ette, millise allakäiguni võib viia viinatõbi. Huvitav on täheldada, et juba siis käsitlesid toonased kirjamehed, Kreutzwald nende hulgas, alkoholismi patoloogiana, mille vastu saab üksnes jäägitu karskusega. Mitte aga nii, nagu hilisemas tõlgenduspraktikas on ette tulnud: viinajoomine kui üksnes sotsiaalselt tingitud pahe.
Kui eespool sai väidetud, et eestlaste varasemas lugemisvaras domineerinud kristliku väärtusõpetuse otse Piiblist käsuõpetusena kopeerimine hakkab taanduma 18. sajandi lõpus ja 19. sajandi alguses, siis 19. sajandi lõpus näeme juba seda õpetust ilmnemas probleemina. Tüüpnäiteks on siin Eduard Vilde romaan „Külmale maale“ (1896), omamoodi esimene, tõsi küll, kirikuvastasusest kantud sümbolistliku lõpuga inimese „õndsaks saamise“ romaan. Vaesuses vaevlev Väljaotsa Jaan, tema armastatu Virgu Anni, Virgu talu peremees Andres, kirikuõpetaja Frick – kõik nad on ümbritsetavad Piibli metafoorikaga. See tipneb varguses süüdistatava Väljaotsa Jaani kohtuprotsessi võrdlemises viimse kohtupäevaga („Nõnda jõudis viimaks suur kohtupäev kätte“) (Vilde 2013, 162). Vilde ise on küll esitlenud romaani kui sotsialistist kirjaniku ühiskonnakriitilist teost, ent pole raske märgata selle läbivat motiivi „kurjusega silditatust“, kes jääbki lunastamata. Virgu Annis kehastub kristlik ohvrimeelne armastus. Seesugust tõlgendusmustrit romaani käsitlemisel võiks jätkata.
20. sajandi eesti kirjanduse üks religioossemaid teoseid, nagu on osutanud akadeemik Jaan Undusk – ta on seda ka Piibli arhetüüpseid tegelasi romaanis iseloomustades avanud –, on Oskar Lutsu „Kevade“ (Undusk 1987). „Kevade“ väärtusõpetuslik sõnum on paradiisliku lapsepõlvekodu meenutamises, kristliku (halastava, ühendava) armuõpetuse kuulutamises. See on ühtaegu eestlaste kui ajalukku astunud rahva lapsepõlvelugu, teiselt poolt – kui nii tohiks öelda – eksistentsiaalne kristlus, küsimus lootuse ja lohutuse olemusest. Näeme seda Arno mitmes monoloogis, aga ka näiteks õpetaja Lauri (muuseas, „Kevades“ on kolm erinevat õpetaja kuju, praost, köster ja ilmalik koolmeister) kutses harida oma vaimu kõigile takistustele vaatamata. Seesugust eksistentsiaalset kristlust, aga sedapuhku tõe, õiguse ja õigluse teljel, on kahtlemata enim väljendanud Anton Hansen Tammsaare kõigis oma „Tõe ja õiguse“ köidetes. Tammsaaret lugedes kogeme nimelt seda, kuidas üks ja seesama väärtussüsteem avaneb paradoksina. Võrreldagu kasvõi Andrest ja Pearut võitluses oma õiguste eest, jälgitagu Indreku mässu Jumala vastu ja ometi nõustumist jumaliku ime olemasoluga. Või Andrese kõnelusi iseendaga läbi Piibli uurimise. Paradoks avaldub juba kasvõi selles, üldkeelde läinud vana Andrese lauses „Tee tööd ja näe vaeva, siis tuleb armastus“, millele poeg Andres vastab, et tema ju, isa Andres on seda näinud, aga armastust pole Vargamäele tulnud (Tammsaare 1981, 492–493). „Tõde ja õigust“ võib võtta kui eestlaste lõppematu liikumise metafoori oma Tõotatud maa poole. Ning otsekui selle pessimistlikuks krooniks kirjutab Tammsaare „Põrgupõhja uue Vanapagana“, sügavalt eksistentsialistliku romaani 20. sajandi eestlase õndsaks saamise tungist, mis Piibli metafoorikat kasutades, on dialoogis, koguni vaidluses kristliku väärtusõpetusega, pannes lugejat järele mõtlema hea ja kurja, mõttetuna näiva töö ja elumõtte, kohustuse ja vastutuse dialektika üle.
28 October 2016 14:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
„Eesti keele seletav sõnaraamat“ registreerib samuti sõnas „rehepapp“ papi ajaloos kinnistunud kavalat või petmisvalmist nimbust. Kuid paradoksaalsel kombel hoopis mõisa vastu ja talupoegade kasuks. Mäletan oma lapsepõlveski loetud muinasjuttudest rehepappi kui targa ja kavala mehe kehastust. Andrus Kivirähi romaan „Rehepapp“ on aga võimendanud seda kui mitte just kõige ausamat ellujäämisstrateegiat, mis on andnud üldkeelde mõiste „rehepaplus“. Öeldu sobib ühtlasi näitlikustama väärtussuhete muutumist ajaloos.
Eestlaste lülitamist läänekristlikku tsivilisatsiooni selle piirialana on käsitletud nn ristimistraumana (Paul 1999, 43). Kuid aastasadade veerult sellele kultuurisemiootilisest vaatepunktist tagasi vaadates võiks seda võtta ka kui lahknemispunkti, plahvatust, mille tulemust me ei saa enam hinnata selle punkti või plahvatushetke mõõtkavas, vaid sellele järgnenud pöördumatuste ajareas: eestlaste jäämine sajanditeks üheseisulikuks rahvaks, kinnistatud maa külge mitte ainult selle maa omanike kaudu, vaid ka metafoorselt, maarahvana, koos sellega kaasneva elutunnetuse, oskuste ja väärtusilmaga; sõltuvus lääne tsivilisatsioonis toimuvast, teatava ajanihkega küll, nagu see perifeeriale kohane, kuid samas perifeeriale omaste protsesside kiirendusega. Tõesti, eesti kultuuri kujunemine alates reformatsioonist rahvusliku eneseteadvuse kultuuriks ja sealt edasi kõigis diapasoonides viljeldavaks Euroopa kultuuriks, nii nagu see suurrahvaste kultuuride puhul täheldatav, on toimunud kiirendusega, mida arvukama asurkonna ja territooriumiga kultuurid ei tunne. Nõnda on see siis olnud ka tõestuseks Juri Lotmani teesile kultuuri perifeerias toimuvate protsesside semiootilisest aktiivsusest. Söandaksin osutada, et kunstiteos, milles eestlaste ajaloo sattumuslikkus muutub paratamatuse ülevaks tunnetuseks, on helilooja Lepo Sumera kirjutatud histoorium „Tule ja verega“. Kes mäletab Eesti Vabariigi 80. sünnipäeva aktust 1998. aastal, kus see esiettekandele tuli, üks meie esinäitlejatest, Ain Lutsepp lugemas katkendeid Henriku kroonikast muusikaliste osade vahele, sellele meenub ka teose finaal, mis ei manifesteeri kaotajarahva allaandmist, vaid pigem valmisolekut võtta vastu oma saatus ja tõusta ühel päeval ise selle valitsejaks. Just see – ellujäämine ajalookeeriste kiuste ja suutlikkus püsida oma eesmärkide püstitamisel ning nendeni jõudmisel teiste rahvaste kõrval esiridades või vähemalt kusagil keskel – see on suur narratiiv, mida eestlaste kollektiivne eneseteadvus täna enim vajab.
Kristlik väärtusõpetus, mille kvintessentsiks võib pidada kümmet käsku ja meieisapalvet, jõuab aga siiamaile koos katekismuste ja kirikujutlustega, ehk siis koos Lutheri algatatud reformatsiooniga. Jutlus kuulub suulisse kultuuri, ehkki see võib olla kirikuõpetaja jaoks üles kirjutatud, kas siis sujuva ettekandmise eesmärgil või välise ettekirjutuse tõttu, nagu oletab Uku Masing Georg Mülleri jutluste puhul (Masing 1999, 203). Mülleri 39 jutlust toovad ilmekalt esile suhte muutumise, mis erinevalt katoliku kirikust valitseb kirikuliste (just kirikuliste, sest me ei saa automaatselt pidada kirikus käijaid usklikeks) ja õpetaja/preestri vahel. Kui katoliku traditsioonis prevaleeris visuaalne-riituslik pool ja vahendatava sõnumi mõistmiseks vajati ladina keele oskust, siis reformeeritud kirikus koondus kuulajatele arusaadavas keeles peetud jutluses kõik Sanale ehk siis pühale sõnumile, milles piiblitekst oli metateksti staatuses, ülejäänu oli ja on jätkuvalt aga tuletis või selle õpetuslik edasiarendus. Kirik on nagu täiskasvanute väärtuskoolitus. See asjaolu tähtsustab nimelt keelekasutust. Siin kuulatakse sõna mitte ainult kuuletumise eesmärgil, mida implitsiitselt kirik võib ju tahta, vaid sõna ennast selle sõnumiväärtuslikkuse pärast. Märgakem, et see, millest jutlustatakse alates Georg Müllerist kuni tänaseni, on ikka üks ja seesama, võib-olla küll ajakohastatud ja seostatud kirikuvälises maailmas toimuvaga, aga ikkagi invariantne, kuid see, mida kuulatakse, on kuulajas endas sündiv kaja jutlustatavale. Ja see kaja on inimeseti erinev ning muutuv. Kirikus jagatav õpetus ei ole mõeldud erisuste allasurumiseks, tasalülitamiseks. Koguduse mõte on selles, et erinevatena ollakse võrdsed ühe sõnumi ees, milleks on normide või tabude süsteem ning seda ümbritsevad/ilmestavad mõistulood.
Eestlaste lülitamist läänekristlikku tsivilisatsiooni selle piirialana on käsitletud nn ristimistraumana (Paul 1999, 43). Kuid aastasadade veerult sellele kultuurisemiootilisest vaatepunktist tagasi vaadates võiks seda võtta ka kui lahknemispunkti, plahvatust, mille tulemust me ei saa enam hinnata selle punkti või plahvatushetke mõõtkavas, vaid sellele järgnenud pöördumatuste ajareas: eestlaste jäämine sajanditeks üheseisulikuks rahvaks, kinnistatud maa külge mitte ainult selle maa omanike kaudu, vaid ka metafoorselt, maarahvana, koos sellega kaasneva elutunnetuse, oskuste ja väärtusilmaga; sõltuvus lääne tsivilisatsioonis toimuvast, teatava ajanihkega küll, nagu see perifeeriale kohane, kuid samas perifeeriale omaste protsesside kiirendusega. Tõesti, eesti kultuuri kujunemine alates reformatsioonist rahvusliku eneseteadvuse kultuuriks ja sealt edasi kõigis diapasoonides viljeldavaks Euroopa kultuuriks, nii nagu see suurrahvaste kultuuride puhul täheldatav, on toimunud kiirendusega, mida arvukama asurkonna ja territooriumiga kultuurid ei tunne. Nõnda on see siis olnud ka tõestuseks Juri Lotmani teesile kultuuri perifeerias toimuvate protsesside semiootilisest aktiivsusest. Söandaksin osutada, et kunstiteos, milles eestlaste ajaloo sattumuslikkus muutub paratamatuse ülevaks tunnetuseks, on helilooja Lepo Sumera kirjutatud histoorium „Tule ja verega“. Kes mäletab Eesti Vabariigi 80. sünnipäeva aktust 1998. aastal, kus see esiettekandele tuli, üks meie esinäitlejatest, Ain Lutsepp lugemas katkendeid Henriku kroonikast muusikaliste osade vahele, sellele meenub ka teose finaal, mis ei manifesteeri kaotajarahva allaandmist, vaid pigem valmisolekut võtta vastu oma saatus ja tõusta ühel päeval ise selle valitsejaks. Just see – ellujäämine ajalookeeriste kiuste ja suutlikkus püsida oma eesmärkide püstitamisel ning nendeni jõudmisel teiste rahvaste kõrval esiridades või vähemalt kusagil keskel – see on suur narratiiv, mida eestlaste kollektiivne eneseteadvus täna enim vajab.
Kristlik väärtusõpetus, mille kvintessentsiks võib pidada kümmet käsku ja meieisapalvet, jõuab aga siiamaile koos katekismuste ja kirikujutlustega, ehk siis koos Lutheri algatatud reformatsiooniga. Jutlus kuulub suulisse kultuuri, ehkki see võib olla kirikuõpetaja jaoks üles kirjutatud, kas siis sujuva ettekandmise eesmärgil või välise ettekirjutuse tõttu, nagu oletab Uku Masing Georg Mülleri jutluste puhul (Masing 1999, 203). Mülleri 39 jutlust toovad ilmekalt esile suhte muutumise, mis erinevalt katoliku kirikust valitseb kirikuliste (just kirikuliste, sest me ei saa automaatselt pidada kirikus käijaid usklikeks) ja õpetaja/preestri vahel. Kui katoliku traditsioonis prevaleeris visuaalne-riituslik pool ja vahendatava sõnumi mõistmiseks vajati ladina keele oskust, siis reformeeritud kirikus koondus kuulajatele arusaadavas keeles peetud jutluses kõik Sanale ehk siis pühale sõnumile, milles piiblitekst oli metateksti staatuses, ülejäänu oli ja on jätkuvalt aga tuletis või selle õpetuslik edasiarendus. Kirik on nagu täiskasvanute väärtuskoolitus. See asjaolu tähtsustab nimelt keelekasutust. Siin kuulatakse sõna mitte ainult kuuletumise eesmärgil, mida implitsiitselt kirik võib ju tahta, vaid sõna ennast selle sõnumiväärtuslikkuse pärast. Märgakem, et see, millest jutlustatakse alates Georg Müllerist kuni tänaseni, on ikka üks ja seesama, võib-olla küll ajakohastatud ja seostatud kirikuvälises maailmas toimuvaga, aga ikkagi invariantne, kuid see, mida kuulatakse, on kuulajas endas sündiv kaja jutlustatavale. Ja see kaja on inimeseti erinev ning muutuv. Kirikus jagatav õpetus ei ole mõeldud erisuste allasurumiseks, tasalülitamiseks. Koguduse mõte on selles, et erinevatena ollakse võrdsed ühe sõnumi ees, milleks on normide või tabude süsteem ning seda ümbritsevad/ilmestavad mõistulood.
28 October 2016 14:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kristliku väärtusõpetuse peegeldusi Eesti (kirjandus)kultuuris
Rein Veidemann ⋅ 20. veebruar 2015
Rein VeidemannIgasugune väärtusõpetus saab alguse asjade ja nähtuste ning nendevaheliste seoste nimetamisest ehk siis keelest. „Keele sisu on kultuuriga lähedalt seotud,“ on väitnud keelelise relativismi üks rajajaid Edward Sapir (2009, 250), väide, mis Sapiri kõrval või talle koguni eelnevalt on leidnud kirgliku laienduse Uku Masingu raamatus „Keelest ja meelest“ (Masing 2004, vt ka Sutrop 2004). See, miks seda keelsuse ja meelsuse vastastikku tingitust siinkohal rõhutan, tuleneb sellest, mida viimastel aegadel üha enam ja enam kogen – meie igapäevase suhtlemise keelelisest erodeerumisest. Mõistete, väljendite, tervete suhtlustasandite piltlikult öeldes ujuvus, dialoogide taandumine haugatusteks või siis hoopis enesekeskseteks monoloogideks annavad märku ka väärtusilma erosioonist.
Seepärast peangi kristliku väärtusõpetuse kirjanduslikest peegeldustest juttu tehes vajalikuks alustada allikatest. Eestlaste varaseimast kokkupuutest kristlusega annavad tunnistust tõenäoliselt kagust siia maile jõudnud ja misjonitöö käigus juurdunud vanavenekeelsed laensõnad „rist“ krĭstŭ, „raamat“ gramota (tõsi küll, see omakorda on vanakreeka grámmata) ja papp popŭ. Huvitav on täheldada, et Wiedemanni sõnaraamatus esineb „raamat“ küll kirikuraamatu või siis piibliraamatu tähenduses, mitte aga piibli üldnimetusena, millisena tunneme seda soome keeles – raamattu. Sakraalse varjundi hakkas sõna „raamat“ omandama 1930-ndate keskel, kui tähistati eestikeelse raamatu, Wanradt-Koelli katekismuse 400. aastapäeva, eriti aga 1950.–1980. aastatel, mil raamatute ostmine kodudesse oli eestlastele prestiiži küsimus ja raamatute lugemine osa toonasest vastukultuurist. Siis sündis ka kujund eestlastest kui raamaturahvast, mis küll nüüdseks on vajumas kuldsesse minevikku. Taasiseseisvumise järel on trükisõna tähendus kardinaalselt muutunud, kaotades oma tähtsuse inimeste ühendaja ning vaba aja sisustajana. „Ilukirjanduse lugemine on tugevasti vähenenud, eriti eestlaste ja eriti noorte hulgas,“ tõdevad aastatel 1965–2004 meediasüsteemi ja meediakasutust uurinud Peeter Vihalemm ja Marju Lauristin. Kui raamatuostjate osakaal eestlaste hulgas oli veel 1990-ndate algul 91 protsenti, siis kümne järgneva aasta jooksul vähenes see enam kui kaks korda, 43-le protsendile (Vihalemm 2004, 84). Niipalju siis raamatust ja selle lugemisest.
Sõnad „rist“ ja „papp“ paistavad aga algusest peale silma ideoloogilise – või peaks ütlema intentsionaalse, kavatsusliku? – laetusega, mis eesti keeles teiste rohkete laensõnade puhul võib alles hiljem lisanduda, nagu „raamatu“ puhul võib seda näha. Seesama Wiedemann registreerib neutraalsena vaid „sõrmed või käed risti panema“ ning „hambad ristis“, ülejäänud rahva keelekasutusest korjatud väljendid on kõik religioosset päritolu või sakraalse varjundiga. Juhan Peegli koostatud raamatu „Nimisõnade poeetilised sünonüümid eesti regivärssides“ leiame „risti“ sünonüümina taevase „tähe“, järgnevad „ristihing“ vaese inimese, „ristirind“ neiu või talutütre, „ristiliiv“ haua ning „ristipuu“ kadaka sünonüümina. Viimatinimetatu võis viidata hauaristi valmistamise materjalile. Folklorist Marju Kõivupuul on põhjalik käsitlus Kagu-Eesti ristipuudest ja ristimetsast, milleks oli enamasti okaspuumets. Ristimärgi tegemine puule tähistas surnud lähedase inimese teekonda matmispaika, ühtlasi oli see linnu kuju võtnud lahkunud hingele märgiks oma kadunud keha ülesleidmisel (Kõivupuu 2009, 27–28). Kõik nimetatud sünonüümid esindavad ühemõttelist sakraalsussuhet.
Ambivalentsem on olnud „papp“ Jumala sõnumi vahendaja või kristluse tunnistajana, mis osutab sellele, et vanade eestlaste kristluse omaksvõtt polnud voolujooneline. Nagu mitmed ajaloolased, aga ka Toomas Paul oma „Eesti piiblitõlke ajaloos“ on kinnitanud (Paul 1999, 43–49), ei pruukinud põhjus olla selles, et kristlus usutunnistuse ja õpetusena oleks olnud jäägitult vastukarva seni haldja-usulistele ehk animismiga seotud eestlaste esivanematele, pigem ikka selles, et koos kristlusega tuli ka võõras võim. Üks esimesi eesti keele mälestisi, Läti Henriku kroonikast pärit ning täna fraseologismina võetav „Laula! Laula! Pappi!“ toob üpriski ilmekalt esile toonase vastasseisu. Tsistertslaste preestri Frederici ja ta kaaslaste surmamisele saarlaste käe läbi Vana-Liivimaal Ogre jõe kaldal eelnes mäletatavasti pühamehe palverituaali mõnitamine (Henriku Liivimaa kroonika, 155). Fraasis endas, mille adressaadina ei pruugita enam ammugi näha usklikku, pigem keda tahes silmakirjalikkuses kahtlustatavat kuldsuud, heiastub nüüd üksnes sõbralik pilge, mida „saaks edukalt kasutada mistahes dispuutides“ (Kalda 2004, 278).
http://kjt.ee/2015/02/kristliku-vaartusopetuse-peegeldusi-eesti-kirjanduskultuuris/
Rein Veidemann ⋅ 20. veebruar 2015
Rein VeidemannIgasugune väärtusõpetus saab alguse asjade ja nähtuste ning nendevaheliste seoste nimetamisest ehk siis keelest. „Keele sisu on kultuuriga lähedalt seotud,“ on väitnud keelelise relativismi üks rajajaid Edward Sapir (2009, 250), väide, mis Sapiri kõrval või talle koguni eelnevalt on leidnud kirgliku laienduse Uku Masingu raamatus „Keelest ja meelest“ (Masing 2004, vt ka Sutrop 2004). See, miks seda keelsuse ja meelsuse vastastikku tingitust siinkohal rõhutan, tuleneb sellest, mida viimastel aegadel üha enam ja enam kogen – meie igapäevase suhtlemise keelelisest erodeerumisest. Mõistete, väljendite, tervete suhtlustasandite piltlikult öeldes ujuvus, dialoogide taandumine haugatusteks või siis hoopis enesekeskseteks monoloogideks annavad märku ka väärtusilma erosioonist.
Seepärast peangi kristliku väärtusõpetuse kirjanduslikest peegeldustest juttu tehes vajalikuks alustada allikatest. Eestlaste varaseimast kokkupuutest kristlusega annavad tunnistust tõenäoliselt kagust siia maile jõudnud ja misjonitöö käigus juurdunud vanavenekeelsed laensõnad „rist“ krĭstŭ, „raamat“ gramota (tõsi küll, see omakorda on vanakreeka grámmata) ja papp popŭ. Huvitav on täheldada, et Wiedemanni sõnaraamatus esineb „raamat“ küll kirikuraamatu või siis piibliraamatu tähenduses, mitte aga piibli üldnimetusena, millisena tunneme seda soome keeles – raamattu. Sakraalse varjundi hakkas sõna „raamat“ omandama 1930-ndate keskel, kui tähistati eestikeelse raamatu, Wanradt-Koelli katekismuse 400. aastapäeva, eriti aga 1950.–1980. aastatel, mil raamatute ostmine kodudesse oli eestlastele prestiiži küsimus ja raamatute lugemine osa toonasest vastukultuurist. Siis sündis ka kujund eestlastest kui raamaturahvast, mis küll nüüdseks on vajumas kuldsesse minevikku. Taasiseseisvumise järel on trükisõna tähendus kardinaalselt muutunud, kaotades oma tähtsuse inimeste ühendaja ning vaba aja sisustajana. „Ilukirjanduse lugemine on tugevasti vähenenud, eriti eestlaste ja eriti noorte hulgas,“ tõdevad aastatel 1965–2004 meediasüsteemi ja meediakasutust uurinud Peeter Vihalemm ja Marju Lauristin. Kui raamatuostjate osakaal eestlaste hulgas oli veel 1990-ndate algul 91 protsenti, siis kümne järgneva aasta jooksul vähenes see enam kui kaks korda, 43-le protsendile (Vihalemm 2004, 84). Niipalju siis raamatust ja selle lugemisest.
Sõnad „rist“ ja „papp“ paistavad aga algusest peale silma ideoloogilise – või peaks ütlema intentsionaalse, kavatsusliku? – laetusega, mis eesti keeles teiste rohkete laensõnade puhul võib alles hiljem lisanduda, nagu „raamatu“ puhul võib seda näha. Seesama Wiedemann registreerib neutraalsena vaid „sõrmed või käed risti panema“ ning „hambad ristis“, ülejäänud rahva keelekasutusest korjatud väljendid on kõik religioosset päritolu või sakraalse varjundiga. Juhan Peegli koostatud raamatu „Nimisõnade poeetilised sünonüümid eesti regivärssides“ leiame „risti“ sünonüümina taevase „tähe“, järgnevad „ristihing“ vaese inimese, „ristirind“ neiu või talutütre, „ristiliiv“ haua ning „ristipuu“ kadaka sünonüümina. Viimatinimetatu võis viidata hauaristi valmistamise materjalile. Folklorist Marju Kõivupuul on põhjalik käsitlus Kagu-Eesti ristipuudest ja ristimetsast, milleks oli enamasti okaspuumets. Ristimärgi tegemine puule tähistas surnud lähedase inimese teekonda matmispaika, ühtlasi oli see linnu kuju võtnud lahkunud hingele märgiks oma kadunud keha ülesleidmisel (Kõivupuu 2009, 27–28). Kõik nimetatud sünonüümid esindavad ühemõttelist sakraalsussuhet.
Ambivalentsem on olnud „papp“ Jumala sõnumi vahendaja või kristluse tunnistajana, mis osutab sellele, et vanade eestlaste kristluse omaksvõtt polnud voolujooneline. Nagu mitmed ajaloolased, aga ka Toomas Paul oma „Eesti piiblitõlke ajaloos“ on kinnitanud (Paul 1999, 43–49), ei pruukinud põhjus olla selles, et kristlus usutunnistuse ja õpetusena oleks olnud jäägitult vastukarva seni haldja-usulistele ehk animismiga seotud eestlaste esivanematele, pigem ikka selles, et koos kristlusega tuli ka võõras võim. Üks esimesi eesti keele mälestisi, Läti Henriku kroonikast pärit ning täna fraseologismina võetav „Laula! Laula! Pappi!“ toob üpriski ilmekalt esile toonase vastasseisu. Tsistertslaste preestri Frederici ja ta kaaslaste surmamisele saarlaste käe läbi Vana-Liivimaal Ogre jõe kaldal eelnes mäletatavasti pühamehe palverituaali mõnitamine (Henriku Liivimaa kroonika, 155). Fraasis endas, mille adressaadina ei pruugita enam ammugi näha usklikku, pigem keda tahes silmakirjalikkuses kahtlustatavat kuldsuud, heiastub nüüd üksnes sõbralik pilge, mida „saaks edukalt kasutada mistahes dispuutides“ (Kalda 2004, 278).
http://kjt.ee/2015/02/kristliku-vaartusopetuse-peegeldusi-eesti-kirjanduskultuuris/
http://kjt.ee/2015/02/kristliku-vaartusopetuse-peegeldusi-eesti-kirjanduskultuuris/
28 October 2016 14:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vikeris ka
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/jarjejutt/saated/6bed52a9-bba2-404a-a76d-ed2f98e10a24
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/jarjejutt/saated/6bed52a9-bba2-404a-a76d-ed2f98e10a24
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/jarjejutt/saated/6bed52a9-bba2-404a-a76d-ed2f98e10a24
28 October 2016 14:45
Margus Meigo commented on Maria Evestus's post.
Tema ainuke kriitika mul ongi, tema riigi lojaalne vastasisus, mis omakorda hippilistidel takistas teatud sorti arengut ja mõtlemist,
Kuigi, eks ta muus osas ikka kuuldaval olevatest üks olulisemaid prohveteid psühedeelia elushoidmiseks, tehnoshamaanide siia ilma integreerimise kindlustaja,
Kuid ta tarkused tuleb siduda ka sutsu Allan Wattsi'ga ja samas on vaja midagi Naiselikku, midagi mis neis kõigis puudu on, suurimatel targeimatel gurudel, mitte, et nad üleni muskuliinsed oleks Rooma-Greeka masina-homo maailma mõttes, vaid lihtsalt sõnades ei ole piisavalt rõhku pandud olulisematele alistumistele mille kaudu ilmasi korda seatakse mis meesolendile saab olla, olulisemaid, kiiremaid, parimad, vajalikumaid ... ja vast isegi ainukesemaid reaalseid elulisi päästeteid, mis kiiremini viib sinna kuhu suurima lunastuse juures soovid.
Muidugi on ka täpselt vastupidiseid arvamusi ja hirme eri vaimu tarkade seas, kuid no.. isegi teadvustades india Kali't.. ei tasu siin taanduda ja elualget leida mujalt,
kuid seda, kas üldse mitte kunagi või kuni sinnamaani kuni need kaks liiki omavahel toimima hakkavad kes omavahel sundkooslusesse sattunud, kuni sinnamaani ei tasu palju muid partnereid Elu säilitamiseks kaugelt sisemusest otsida.
Hmm.. osa ikka suuresosas paika peab?
Kuigi, eks ta muus osas ikka kuuldaval olevatest üks olulisemaid prohveteid psühedeelia elushoidmiseks, tehnoshamaanide siia ilma integreerimise kindlustaja,
Kuid ta tarkused tuleb siduda ka sutsu Allan Wattsi'ga ja samas on vaja midagi Naiselikku, midagi mis neis kõigis puudu on, suurimatel targeimatel gurudel, mitte, et nad üleni muskuliinsed oleks Rooma-Greeka masina-homo maailma mõttes, vaid lihtsalt sõnades ei ole piisavalt rõhku pandud olulisematele alistumistele mille kaudu ilmasi korda seatakse mis meesolendile saab olla, olulisemaid, kiiremaid, parimad, vajalikumaid ... ja vast isegi ainukesemaid reaalseid elulisi päästeteid, mis kiiremini viib sinna kuhu suurima lunastuse juures soovid.
Muidugi on ka täpselt vastupidiseid arvamusi ja hirme eri vaimu tarkade seas, kuid no.. isegi teadvustades india Kali't.. ei tasu siin taanduda ja elualget leida mujalt,
kuid seda, kas üldse mitte kunagi või kuni sinnamaani kuni need kaks liiki omavahel toimima hakkavad kes omavahel sundkooslusesse sattunud, kuni sinnamaani ei tasu palju muid partnereid Elu säilitamiseks kaugelt sisemusest otsida.
Hmm.. osa ikka suuresosas paika peab?
28 October 2016 10:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Two years later, Bast revealed the deception in a court declaration. He said the undercover operation was necessary to learn whether Clearwater's elite were conspiring to run the church out of town.
More recently, Scientology investigations have been run by former Los Angeles Police Department sergeant Eugene Ingram, who was fired by the department in 1981 for allegedly running a house of prostitution and alerting a drug dealer of a planned raid. (In a later jury trial, Ingram was acquitted of all criminal charges.)
When he needs help, Ingram has sometimes turned to former LAPD colleagues.
Ex-officer Al Bei, for example, played a key role in a 1984 investigation of David Mayo, an influential Scientology defector who had opened a rival church near Santa Barbara. Scientologists believed Mayo was using stolen Hubbard teachings.
Bei and other investigators questioned local businessmen, handing out business cards that said, "Special Agent, Task Force on White Collar Crime."
Their questions suggested--falsely--that Mayo was linked to international terrorism and drug smuggling, according to court records. At a local bank, Bei tried without success to obtain Mayo's banking records and implied that Mayo was engaged in money laundering, an executive of the bank said.
The investigators rented an office directly above Mayo's facility and leaned from the windows to photograph everyone who entered.
Mayo eventually obtained a court order barring Ingram Investigations and church members from going near Mayo or his facility. The judge said the investigation amounted to "harassment."
On another occasion, Bei surfaced on a quiet residential street in Burbank, where he questioned neighbors of two highly critical former Scientologists, Fred and Valerie Stansfield. The Stansfields had established a competing center in their home to provide Scientology courses.
One of the neighbors said in a declaration that Bei attempted to "slander" the Stansfields with such questions as: "Did you know that Valerie told someone that she had pinworms two years ago?"
Los Angeles police officer Philip Rodriguez is another who has assisted Ingram in Scientology investigations.
In late 1984, he provided Ingram with a letter on plain stationery saying Ingram was authorized to covertly videotape a hostile former member suspected by church authorities of plotting illegal acts against the church.
Although the letter was written without official police department approval, Rodriguez's action lent an air of legitimacy to the investigation. In fact, when church officials disclosed its results, they described the operation as "LAPD sanctioned"--a characterization that Police Chief Daryl F. Gates angrily disputed.
Rodriguez was suspended for six months for his role in the affair.
And when the clandestine videotapes were introduced in an Oregon court to discredit testimony by the former member, the presiding judge said: "I think they are devastating against the church. . . . It (the investigation) borders on entrapment more than it does on anything else."
Another former LAPD officer, Charles Stapleton, worked part time for Ingram while teaching law at Los Angeles City College.
"Gene is a very thorough investigator," Stapleton said in an interview. "He is determined to do the finest job he possibly can and he will employ whatever methods or tactics are necessary to do that job."
More recently, Scientology investigations have been run by former Los Angeles Police Department sergeant Eugene Ingram, who was fired by the department in 1981 for allegedly running a house of prostitution and alerting a drug dealer of a planned raid. (In a later jury trial, Ingram was acquitted of all criminal charges.)
When he needs help, Ingram has sometimes turned to former LAPD colleagues.
Ex-officer Al Bei, for example, played a key role in a 1984 investigation of David Mayo, an influential Scientology defector who had opened a rival church near Santa Barbara. Scientologists believed Mayo was using stolen Hubbard teachings.
Bei and other investigators questioned local businessmen, handing out business cards that said, "Special Agent, Task Force on White Collar Crime."
Their questions suggested--falsely--that Mayo was linked to international terrorism and drug smuggling, according to court records. At a local bank, Bei tried without success to obtain Mayo's banking records and implied that Mayo was engaged in money laundering, an executive of the bank said.
The investigators rented an office directly above Mayo's facility and leaned from the windows to photograph everyone who entered.
Mayo eventually obtained a court order barring Ingram Investigations and church members from going near Mayo or his facility. The judge said the investigation amounted to "harassment."
On another occasion, Bei surfaced on a quiet residential street in Burbank, where he questioned neighbors of two highly critical former Scientologists, Fred and Valerie Stansfield. The Stansfields had established a competing center in their home to provide Scientology courses.
One of the neighbors said in a declaration that Bei attempted to "slander" the Stansfields with such questions as: "Did you know that Valerie told someone that she had pinworms two years ago?"
Los Angeles police officer Philip Rodriguez is another who has assisted Ingram in Scientology investigations.
In late 1984, he provided Ingram with a letter on plain stationery saying Ingram was authorized to covertly videotape a hostile former member suspected by church authorities of plotting illegal acts against the church.
Although the letter was written without official police department approval, Rodriguez's action lent an air of legitimacy to the investigation. In fact, when church officials disclosed its results, they described the operation as "LAPD sanctioned"--a characterization that Police Chief Daryl F. Gates angrily disputed.
Rodriguez was suspended for six months for his role in the affair.
And when the clandestine videotapes were introduced in an Oregon court to discredit testimony by the former member, the presiding judge said: "I think they are devastating against the church. . . . It (the investigation) borders on entrapment more than it does on anything else."
Another former LAPD officer, Charles Stapleton, worked part time for Ingram while teaching law at Los Angeles City College.
"Gene is a very thorough investigator," Stapleton said in an interview. "He is determined to do the finest job he possibly can and he will employ whatever methods or tactics are necessary to do that job."
27 October 2016 21:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Underlying the church's aggressive response to criticism is a belief that anyone who attacks Scientology is a criminal of some sort. "We do not find critics of Scientology who do not have criminal pasts," Hubbard wrote back in 1967. "Over and over we prove this."
When Scientology takes the offensive, L. Ron Hubbard's writings provide the inspiration. Here is a sampling of what Hubbard wrote:
"The purpose of the (lawsuit) is to harass and discourage rather than win."
"If attacked on some vulnerable point by anyone or anything or any organization, always find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause them to sue for peace. . . . Don't ever defend. Always attack."
"We do not want Scientology to be reported in the press, anywhere else than on the religious pages of newspapers. . . . Therefore, we should be very alert to sue for slander at the slightest chance so as to discourage the public presses from mentioning Scientology."
"NEVER agree to an investigation of Scientology. Only agree to an investigation of the attackers. . . . Start feeding lurid, blood, sex crime, actual evidence on the attack to the press. Don't ever tamely submit to an investigation of us. Make it rough, rough on attackers all the way."
Obedience to these rules is not discretionary. They are scripture and, as such, have guided a succession of church leaders in their responses to perceived attacks.
Ironically, Hubbard's doctrinal dictums have often served only to escalate conflicts and reinforce the cultish image the church has been trying to shake.
In the early 1970s, British lawmaker Sir John Foster offered a seemingly timeless observation on Scientology in a report to his government.
He wrote that "anyone whose attitude is such as Mr. Hubbard displays in his writings cannot be too surprised if the world treats him with suspicion rather than affection."
Defeating its antagonists is considered so vital to the religion's survival that the church has a unit whose mandate is to bring "hostile philosophies or societies into a state of complete compliance with the goals of Scientology."
Called the Office of Special Affairs, its duties include developing legal strategy and countering outside threats.
Its predecessor was the Guardian Office, whose members became so overzealous that Hubbard's wife and 10 other Scientologists were jailed for bugging and burglarizing U.S. government agencies in the 1970s.
Now, Scientology spokesmen say, attorneys are hired to handle conflicts with church adversaries to ensure that history does not repeat itself. The attorneys, they say, employ private detectives to help prepare court cases--a role that, in the past, would have been filled by Scientologists from the Guardian Office.
But some former Scientologists contend that the private detectives have simply replaced church members as agents of intimidation. The detectives are especially valued because they insulate the church from deceptive and potentially embarrassing investigative tactics that the church in fact endorses, according to this view.
One of the first private detectives hired by the church was Richard Bast of Washington, D.C.
In 1980, he investigated the sex life of U.S. District Judge James Richey, who was presiding over the criminal trial of Hubbard's wife and the 10 other Scientologists. Richey had issued rulings unfavorable to them.
Bast's investigators found a prostitute at the Brentwood Holiday Inn who claimed that Richey had purchased her services while staying at the hotel during trips to Los Angeles. Bast's men gave her a lie detector test and videotaped her account.
That and other information obtained by Bast's investigators was leaked to columnist Jack Anderson, and appeared in newspapers across the country. Soon after, Richey resigned from the case, citing health reasons.
In 1982, Bast surfaced again, this time in Clearwater, Fla., where the church's secretive methods of operating had stirred community anxiety.
Bast's detectives, posing as emissaries of a wealthy European industrialist, lured some of the community's most prominent businessmen aboard a luxurious yacht. Their pitch: the industrialist wanted to invest $100 million in Clearwater's decaying downtown.
But there was a catch, recalled developer Alan Bomstein, one of the businessmen being wooed. The emissaries said their boss was dismayed by the conflict between Clearwater and Scientology, and wanted the businessmen to help quash a public inquiry into the church's activities.
When the businessmen refused, Bomstein said, the emissaries vanished.
When Scientology takes the offensive, L. Ron Hubbard's writings provide the inspiration. Here is a sampling of what Hubbard wrote:
"The purpose of the (lawsuit) is to harass and discourage rather than win."
"If attacked on some vulnerable point by anyone or anything or any organization, always find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause them to sue for peace. . . . Don't ever defend. Always attack."
"We do not want Scientology to be reported in the press, anywhere else than on the religious pages of newspapers. . . . Therefore, we should be very alert to sue for slander at the slightest chance so as to discourage the public presses from mentioning Scientology."
"NEVER agree to an investigation of Scientology. Only agree to an investigation of the attackers. . . . Start feeding lurid, blood, sex crime, actual evidence on the attack to the press. Don't ever tamely submit to an investigation of us. Make it rough, rough on attackers all the way."
Obedience to these rules is not discretionary. They are scripture and, as such, have guided a succession of church leaders in their responses to perceived attacks.
Ironically, Hubbard's doctrinal dictums have often served only to escalate conflicts and reinforce the cultish image the church has been trying to shake.
In the early 1970s, British lawmaker Sir John Foster offered a seemingly timeless observation on Scientology in a report to his government.
He wrote that "anyone whose attitude is such as Mr. Hubbard displays in his writings cannot be too surprised if the world treats him with suspicion rather than affection."
Defeating its antagonists is considered so vital to the religion's survival that the church has a unit whose mandate is to bring "hostile philosophies or societies into a state of complete compliance with the goals of Scientology."
Called the Office of Special Affairs, its duties include developing legal strategy and countering outside threats.
Its predecessor was the Guardian Office, whose members became so overzealous that Hubbard's wife and 10 other Scientologists were jailed for bugging and burglarizing U.S. government agencies in the 1970s.
Now, Scientology spokesmen say, attorneys are hired to handle conflicts with church adversaries to ensure that history does not repeat itself. The attorneys, they say, employ private detectives to help prepare court cases--a role that, in the past, would have been filled by Scientologists from the Guardian Office.
But some former Scientologists contend that the private detectives have simply replaced church members as agents of intimidation. The detectives are especially valued because they insulate the church from deceptive and potentially embarrassing investigative tactics that the church in fact endorses, according to this view.
One of the first private detectives hired by the church was Richard Bast of Washington, D.C.
In 1980, he investigated the sex life of U.S. District Judge James Richey, who was presiding over the criminal trial of Hubbard's wife and the 10 other Scientologists. Richey had issued rulings unfavorable to them.
Bast's investigators found a prostitute at the Brentwood Holiday Inn who claimed that Richey had purchased her services while staying at the hotel during trips to Los Angeles. Bast's men gave her a lie detector test and videotaped her account.
That and other information obtained by Bast's investigators was leaked to columnist Jack Anderson, and appeared in newspapers across the country. Soon after, Richey resigned from the case, citing health reasons.
In 1982, Bast surfaced again, this time in Clearwater, Fla., where the church's secretive methods of operating had stirred community anxiety.
Bast's detectives, posing as emissaries of a wealthy European industrialist, lured some of the community's most prominent businessmen aboard a luxurious yacht. Their pitch: the industrialist wanted to invest $100 million in Clearwater's decaying downtown.
But there was a catch, recalled developer Alan Bomstein, one of the businessmen being wooed. The emissaries said their boss was dismayed by the conflict between Clearwater and Scientology, and wanted the businessmen to help quash a public inquiry into the church's activities.
When the businessmen refused, Bomstein said, the emissaries vanished.
27 October 2016 21:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Never treat a war like a skirmish. Treat all skirmishes like wars." --L. Ron Hubbard
Ministers mingle with private detectives. "Sacred scriptures" counsel the virtues of combativeness. Parishioners double as paralegals for litigious church attorneys.
Consider the passage that a prominent Scientology minister selected from the religion's scriptures, authored by the late L. Ron Hubbard, to inspire the faithful during a gala church event.
"People attack Scientology," the minister quoted Hubbard as saying. "I never forget it; always even the score."
The crowd cheered.
As far back as 1959, Hubbard warned that illness and even death can befall those seeking to impede Scientology, known within the church as "suppressive persons."
"Literally, it kills them," Hubbard wrote, "and if you don't believe me I can show you the long death list."
He told the story of an electrician who bilked the organization. "Within a few weeks," Hubbard said, "he contracted TB."
Scientology seems committed not only to fighting back, but to chilling potential opposition. For years, the church has been accused of employing psychological warfare, dirty tricks and harassment-by-lawsuit to silence its adversaries.
The church has spent millions to investigate and sue writers, government officials, disaffected ex-members and others loosely defined as "enemies."
Teams of private detectives have been dispatched to the far corners of the world to spy on critics and rummage through their personal lives--and trash cans--for information to discredit them.
During one investigation, headed by a former Los Angeles police sergeant, the church paid tens of thousands of dollars to reputed organized crime figures and con men for information linking a leading church opponent to a crime that it turned out he did not commit.
Early last year, an American Scientologist was arrested in Spain for possessing dossiers containing confidential information on a member of Parliament and a Madrid judge who is oversaw a fraud and tax evasion probe of the church. The dossiers included personal bank records and family photographs, according to press accounts.
Before a British author's critical biography of Hubbard was even released two years ago in Europe, the church had him and his publisher tied up in a London court for alleged copyright infringement. The writer speculated that Scientology sympathizers had somehow managed to obtain pre-publication proofs of the book.
Scientology spokesmen insist that the organization is doing nothing illegal or unethical, and is merely exercising its constitutional rights with vigor.
They argue that Scientology has been targeted by hostile government and private forces--including the Internal Revenue Service, the FBI, the press, psychiatrists and unscrupulous attorneys--that have persecuted the church since its founding three decades ago.
As a matter of self-preservation, lamented Scientology attorney Earle C. Cooley, the church has been forced to fight back and then has been unfairly chastised for its aggressiveness.
"When we were attacked at Pearl Harbor we didn't just sit back and defend there," Cooley declared. "We tried to get out on the offensive as quickly as possible. . . . To sit back and ward off the blows is ridiculous."
www.courant.com/la-scientology062990x-story.html
Ministers mingle with private detectives. "Sacred scriptures" counsel the virtues of combativeness. Parishioners double as paralegals for litigious church attorneys.
Consider the passage that a prominent Scientology minister selected from the religion's scriptures, authored by the late L. Ron Hubbard, to inspire the faithful during a gala church event.
"People attack Scientology," the minister quoted Hubbard as saying. "I never forget it; always even the score."
The crowd cheered.
As far back as 1959, Hubbard warned that illness and even death can befall those seeking to impede Scientology, known within the church as "suppressive persons."
"Literally, it kills them," Hubbard wrote, "and if you don't believe me I can show you the long death list."
He told the story of an electrician who bilked the organization. "Within a few weeks," Hubbard said, "he contracted TB."
Scientology seems committed not only to fighting back, but to chilling potential opposition. For years, the church has been accused of employing psychological warfare, dirty tricks and harassment-by-lawsuit to silence its adversaries.
The church has spent millions to investigate and sue writers, government officials, disaffected ex-members and others loosely defined as "enemies."
Teams of private detectives have been dispatched to the far corners of the world to spy on critics and rummage through their personal lives--and trash cans--for information to discredit them.
During one investigation, headed by a former Los Angeles police sergeant, the church paid tens of thousands of dollars to reputed organized crime figures and con men for information linking a leading church opponent to a crime that it turned out he did not commit.
Early last year, an American Scientologist was arrested in Spain for possessing dossiers containing confidential information on a member of Parliament and a Madrid judge who is oversaw a fraud and tax evasion probe of the church. The dossiers included personal bank records and family photographs, according to press accounts.
Before a British author's critical biography of Hubbard was even released two years ago in Europe, the church had him and his publisher tied up in a London court for alleged copyright infringement. The writer speculated that Scientology sympathizers had somehow managed to obtain pre-publication proofs of the book.
Scientology spokesmen insist that the organization is doing nothing illegal or unethical, and is merely exercising its constitutional rights with vigor.
They argue that Scientology has been targeted by hostile government and private forces--including the Internal Revenue Service, the FBI, the press, psychiatrists and unscrupulous attorneys--that have persecuted the church since its founding three decades ago.
As a matter of self-preservation, lamented Scientology attorney Earle C. Cooley, the church has been forced to fight back and then has been unfairly chastised for its aggressiveness.
"When we were attacked at Pearl Harbor we didn't just sit back and defend there," Cooley declared. "We tried to get out on the offensive as quickly as possible. . . . To sit back and ward off the blows is ridiculous."
www.courant.com/la-scientology062990x-story.html
http://www.courant.com/la-scientology062990x-story.html
27 October 2016 21:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yeah mention from who, why and how also... would be helpful, ,
Also that this is way
Also that this is way
27 October 2016 06:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
leaving that hope
27 October 2016 05:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Bothers me when newspapers are so wussy, that they have to say "reportedly" as they actually did not,
27 October 2016 05:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. Trump had made a cameo in a softcore porn film in 1999, titled “Playboy Video Centerfold 2000,”
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"Before running for office, Trump showed little disgust with women appearing in pornography. He bragged about watching Paris Hilton’s sex tape with his wife, Melania Trump. And while dating his soon-to-be-second wife Marla Maples in 1990, he reportedly encouraged her to appear in Playboy. Here is how the Sun-Sentinel reported it on Aug. 19, 1990:
“Donald doesn’t want Marla to look like she’s against Ivana,” says Trump’s P.R. guru Chuck Jones. “Donald wants picture approval. Donald says to emphasize her early years.”
Notably, she did resist Trump’s insistence that she accept Playboy magazine’s million-dollar centerfold offer. “Trump himself was on the phone negotiating the fee,” remembers a top Playboy editor. “He wanted her to do the nude layout. She didn’t.” (“I’m thankful for my body, but I didn’t want to exploit it,” Marla offers. “How would I ever be taken seriously?”)
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As Jezebel first reported, this wasn’t exactly a one-time intuition on Trump’s behalf. He also reportedly tried to get Playboy to run a spread on the women who worked for him.
And here is the article in its original paper format:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-playboy_us_57efc120e4b082aad9bb9a0e
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"Before running for office, Trump showed little disgust with women appearing in pornography. He bragged about watching Paris Hilton’s sex tape with his wife, Melania Trump. And while dating his soon-to-be-second wife Marla Maples in 1990, he reportedly encouraged her to appear in Playboy. Here is how the Sun-Sentinel reported it on Aug. 19, 1990:
“Donald doesn’t want Marla to look like she’s against Ivana,” says Trump’s P.R. guru Chuck Jones. “Donald wants picture approval. Donald says to emphasize her early years.”
Notably, she did resist Trump’s insistence that she accept Playboy magazine’s million-dollar centerfold offer. “Trump himself was on the phone negotiating the fee,” remembers a top Playboy editor. “He wanted her to do the nude layout. She didn’t.” (“I’m thankful for my body, but I didn’t want to exploit it,” Marla offers. “How would I ever be taken seriously?”)
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As Jezebel first reported, this wasn’t exactly a one-time intuition on Trump’s behalf. He also reportedly tried to get Playboy to run a spread on the women who worked for him.
And here is the article in its original paper format:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-playboy_us_57efc120e4b082aad9bb9a0e
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-playboy_us_57efc120e4b082aad9bb9a0e
27 October 2016 05:26
Margus Meigo replied to Alter Ed Native's comment.
tell me more how You mean?
27 October 2016 05:17
Margus Meigo replied to Alter Ed Native's comment.
tell me more how You mean?
27 October 2016 05:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Yeah Doonald, them are "Great People"
Hasti paned Trump!
(fur sure , one must investigate firs,t was that news real at all , but considering that their own side usually invents things like that only, then most likely is from the feel )
Hasti paned Trump!
(fur sure , one must investigate firs,t was that news real at all , but considering that their own side usually invents things like that only, then most likely is from the feel )
27 October 2016 05:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Penthouse: Do you know any specific information that the KGB got from your father that might have been harmful to security?
Hubbard: The plans for an infrared heat-seeking missile in the early fifties. They obtained the information by extensive auditing of the guy who was one of the head engineers. There were great infiltrations clear to this day. There has always been an inordinate interest on the part of Scientology in military and government personnel. There's no way for me to prove it sitting here, but I believe that the KGB trained East German agents who came via Denmark to London to the United States who were, supposedly, Scientologists. They made very good Scientologists. They were very well trained.
Penthouse: Did your father do this just for money?
Hubbard: Yes. The more he made, the more he wanted. He became greedy. He was really just interested in the use of money and power, wherever it was or whosoever's it was. Morality and politics made no difference to him at all.
Penthouse: Did the Labor Party official get any of his young men via Scientology?
Hubbard: Yes. The British were ripe for Scientology. The British school system fosters lesbianism and homosexuality, because from the time you're born until you're in your twenties, all you see is the same sex. The schools are so segretated. And you'll notice in Scientology the focus on sex. Sex, sex, sex. The first thing we wanted to know about someone we were auditing was his sexual deviations. You know, in actual fact, very few people exclusively practice missionary-style sex. So all you've got to do is find a person's kinks, whatever they might be. Their dreams and their fantasies. And if you find that central core, their sexual drives and desires and fantasies, then you can fit a ring through their noses and take them anywnere. You promise to fufill their fantasies or you threaten to expose them --very simple. And People do have outrageous sexual fantasies.
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"He started me out by mixing phenobarbital into my bubble gum, when I was ten years old. This was to induce deeper trances in order to practice the black magic and to get an avenue to power.
Penthouse: How exactly would this work?
Hubbard: The explanation is sort of long and complicated. The basic rationale is that there are some powers in this universe that are pretty strong. As an example, Hitler was involved in the same black magic and the same occult practices that my father was. The identical ones. Which, as I have said, stem clear back to before Egyptian times. It's a very secret thing. Very powerful and very workable and very dangerous. Brainwashing is nothing compared to it. The proper term would be "soul cracking." It's like cracking open the soul, which then opens various doors to the power that exists, the satanic and demonic powers. Simply put, it's like a tunnel or an avenue or a doorway. Pulling that power into yourself through another person --and using women, especially -- is incredibly insidious. It makes Dr. Fu Manchu look like a kindergarten student. It is the ultimate vampirism, the ultimate mind-fuck, instead of going for blood, you're going for their soul. And you take drugs in order to reach that state where you can, quite literally, like a psychic hammer, break their soul, and pull the power through. He designed his Scientology Operating Thetan techniques to do the same thing. But, of course, it takes a couple of hundred hours of auditing and mega-thousands of dollars for the privilege of having your head turned into a glass Humpty Dumpty --shattered into a million pieces. It may sound like incredible gibberish, but it made my father a fortune.
Penthouse: When was the last time your father was seen in public?
Hubbard: Sometime in the sixties he granted an interview to British television. After that he didn't appear in public and just slowly became a recluse. One of the reasons he became a recluse was his own physical and mental condition was deteriorating so badly that he couldn't let the public or the Scientology membership know just what kind of shape he was in. He was a testament to the fact that Scientology didn't work.
yeah, black m does not work
http://www.businessinsider.com/l-ron-hubbard-jr-interview-in-penthouse-2015-4
"Junior, later known as Ronald DeWolf, said he was born two and a half months early (weighing just two pounds, two ounces) as the result of a failed abortion by his father. After the death of Aleister Crowley, a famous English Occultist who considered himself the Antichrist, Hubbard decided he should "wear the cloak of the beast" and thought of himself as the devil incarnate, according to DeWolf.
"What a lot of people don't realize is that Scientology is just black magic spread out over a long time," DeWolf told Penthouse.
Heavily involved as a teenager and young man in Scientology, DeWolf said he eventually became disenchanted with the rampant hypocrisy and immorality of the church and his own father.
L. Ron Hubbard, Jr.
L. Ron Hubbard, Jr. also known as Ronald DeWolfYouTube/Mark Bunker
"I began to see that my father was a sick, sadistic, vicious man. I saw more and more parallels between his behavior and what I read about the way Hitler thought and acted," he told Penthouse.
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// Oket, leave hitler out of it, or you make yourself look strange ,//as punishment father-gone-bad got hes bad sun do make most factual exposing ever ... but EVEN that must ee considered, as a part of plan in their level of sophistication, to say truth in lines , to turn it in to power
Hubbard: The plans for an infrared heat-seeking missile in the early fifties. They obtained the information by extensive auditing of the guy who was one of the head engineers. There were great infiltrations clear to this day. There has always been an inordinate interest on the part of Scientology in military and government personnel. There's no way for me to prove it sitting here, but I believe that the KGB trained East German agents who came via Denmark to London to the United States who were, supposedly, Scientologists. They made very good Scientologists. They were very well trained.
Penthouse: Did your father do this just for money?
Hubbard: Yes. The more he made, the more he wanted. He became greedy. He was really just interested in the use of money and power, wherever it was or whosoever's it was. Morality and politics made no difference to him at all.
Penthouse: Did the Labor Party official get any of his young men via Scientology?
Hubbard: Yes. The British were ripe for Scientology. The British school system fosters lesbianism and homosexuality, because from the time you're born until you're in your twenties, all you see is the same sex. The schools are so segretated. And you'll notice in Scientology the focus on sex. Sex, sex, sex. The first thing we wanted to know about someone we were auditing was his sexual deviations. You know, in actual fact, very few people exclusively practice missionary-style sex. So all you've got to do is find a person's kinks, whatever they might be. Their dreams and their fantasies. And if you find that central core, their sexual drives and desires and fantasies, then you can fit a ring through their noses and take them anywnere. You promise to fufill their fantasies or you threaten to expose them --very simple. And People do have outrageous sexual fantasies.
----
"He started me out by mixing phenobarbital into my bubble gum, when I was ten years old. This was to induce deeper trances in order to practice the black magic and to get an avenue to power.
Penthouse: How exactly would this work?
Hubbard: The explanation is sort of long and complicated. The basic rationale is that there are some powers in this universe that are pretty strong. As an example, Hitler was involved in the same black magic and the same occult practices that my father was. The identical ones. Which, as I have said, stem clear back to before Egyptian times. It's a very secret thing. Very powerful and very workable and very dangerous. Brainwashing is nothing compared to it. The proper term would be "soul cracking." It's like cracking open the soul, which then opens various doors to the power that exists, the satanic and demonic powers. Simply put, it's like a tunnel or an avenue or a doorway. Pulling that power into yourself through another person --and using women, especially -- is incredibly insidious. It makes Dr. Fu Manchu look like a kindergarten student. It is the ultimate vampirism, the ultimate mind-fuck, instead of going for blood, you're going for their soul. And you take drugs in order to reach that state where you can, quite literally, like a psychic hammer, break their soul, and pull the power through. He designed his Scientology Operating Thetan techniques to do the same thing. But, of course, it takes a couple of hundred hours of auditing and mega-thousands of dollars for the privilege of having your head turned into a glass Humpty Dumpty --shattered into a million pieces. It may sound like incredible gibberish, but it made my father a fortune.
Penthouse: When was the last time your father was seen in public?
Hubbard: Sometime in the sixties he granted an interview to British television. After that he didn't appear in public and just slowly became a recluse. One of the reasons he became a recluse was his own physical and mental condition was deteriorating so badly that he couldn't let the public or the Scientology membership know just what kind of shape he was in. He was a testament to the fact that Scientology didn't work.
yeah, black m does not work
http://www.businessinsider.com/l-ron-hubbard-jr-interview-in-penthouse-2015-4
"Junior, later known as Ronald DeWolf, said he was born two and a half months early (weighing just two pounds, two ounces) as the result of a failed abortion by his father. After the death of Aleister Crowley, a famous English Occultist who considered himself the Antichrist, Hubbard decided he should "wear the cloak of the beast" and thought of himself as the devil incarnate, according to DeWolf.
"What a lot of people don't realize is that Scientology is just black magic spread out over a long time," DeWolf told Penthouse.
Heavily involved as a teenager and young man in Scientology, DeWolf said he eventually became disenchanted with the rampant hypocrisy and immorality of the church and his own father.
L. Ron Hubbard, Jr.
L. Ron Hubbard, Jr. also known as Ronald DeWolfYouTube/Mark Bunker
"I began to see that my father was a sick, sadistic, vicious man. I saw more and more parallels between his behavior and what I read about the way Hitler thought and acted," he told Penthouse.
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// Oket, leave hitler out of it, or you make yourself look strange ,//as punishment father-gone-bad got hes bad sun do make most factual exposing ever ... but EVEN that must ee considered, as a part of plan in their level of sophistication, to say truth in lines , to turn it in to power
http://www.businessinsider.com/l-ron-hubbard-jr-interview-in-penthouse-2015-4
27 October 2016 04:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Great year was the 1983..
"Penthouse: What kind of people were tempted by this promise?
Hubbard: A whole range of people. People who wanted to raise their IQ, to feel better, to solve their problems. You also got people who wished to lord it over other people in the use of power. Remember, it's a power game, a matter of climbing a pyramidal hierarchy to the top, and it's who you can step on to get more power that counts. It appeals a great deal to neurotics. And to people who are greedy. It appeals a great deal to Americans, I think, because they tend to believe in instant everything, from instant coffee to instant nirvana. By just saying a few magic words or by doing a few assignments, one can become a god. People believe this. You see, Scientology doesn't really address the soul; it addresses the ego. What happens in Scientology is that a person's ego gets pumped up by this science-fiction fantasy helium into universe-sized proportions. And this is very appealing. It is especially appealing to the intelligentsia of this country, who are made to feel that they are the most highly intelligent people, when in actual fact, from an emotional standpoint, they are completely stupid. Fine professors, doctors, scientists, people involved in the arts and sciences, would fall into Scientology like you wouldn't believe. It appealed to their intellectual level and buttressed their emotional weaknesses. You show me a professor and I revert back to the fifties: I just kick him in the head, eat him for breakfast.
Penthouse: Did it attract young people as much as cults today?
Hubbard: Yes. We attracted quite a few hippies but we tried to stay a way from them
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don't have to give up their right to perceive things the way they believe. Scientology and all the other cults are one-dimensional, and we live in a three-dimensional world. Cults are as dangerous as drugs. They commit the highest crime: the rape of the soul.
Penthouse: You mentioned that Scientology attracted a great many well-known or important people. Can you give us some examples?
Hubbard: Two of the people we were involved with in the late fifties in England were Errol Flynn and a man who was high up in the Labor Party at the time. My father and Errol Flynn were very similar. They were only interested in money, sex, booze, and drugs. At that time, in the late fifties, Flynn was pretty much of a burned-out hulk. But he was involved in smuggling deals with my father: gold from the Mediterranean, and some drugs --mostly cocaine. They were both just a little larger than life. I had to admire my father from one standpoint. As I've said, he was a down-and-out, broke science-fiction writer, and then he writes one book of science-fiction and convinces the world it's true. He sells it to millions of people and gets billions of dollars and everyone thinks he's some sort of deity. He was really bigger than life. Flynn was like that, too. You could say many negative things about the two of them, but they did as they pleased and lived as they pleased. It was always fun to sit there at dinner and listen to these two guys rap. Wild people. Errol Flynn was like my father also in that he would do anything for money. He would take anything to bed --boys, girls, Fifty-year-old women, ten-year-old boys, Flynn and my father had insatiable appetites. Tons of mistresses. They lived very high on the hog.
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Penthouse: And what about this Labor Party official?
Hubbard: He was a double agent for the KGB and for the British intelligence agency. He was also a raging homosexual. He wanted my father to use his black-magic, soul-cracking, brainwashing techniques on young boys. He wanted these boys as his own sexual slaves. He wanted to use my father's techniques to crack people's heads open because he was very influential in and around the British government --plus he was selling information to the Russians. And so was my father.
Penthouse: Your father was selling information to the Soviets?
Hubbard: Yes. That's where my father got the money to buy St. Hill Manor in East Grinstead, Sussex, which is the English headquarters of Scientology today.
Penthouse: What information did your father have to sell the Soviet government?
Hubbard: He didn't do any spying himself. What he normally did was allow these strange little people to go into the offices and into his home at odd hours of the night. He told me that he was allowing the KGB to go through our files, and that he was charging £40,000 for it. This was the money he used for the purchase of St. Hill Manor.
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/penthouse-LRonHubbardJr-interview-1983.htm
"Penthouse: What kind of people were tempted by this promise?
Hubbard: A whole range of people. People who wanted to raise their IQ, to feel better, to solve their problems. You also got people who wished to lord it over other people in the use of power. Remember, it's a power game, a matter of climbing a pyramidal hierarchy to the top, and it's who you can step on to get more power that counts. It appeals a great deal to neurotics. And to people who are greedy. It appeals a great deal to Americans, I think, because they tend to believe in instant everything, from instant coffee to instant nirvana. By just saying a few magic words or by doing a few assignments, one can become a god. People believe this. You see, Scientology doesn't really address the soul; it addresses the ego. What happens in Scientology is that a person's ego gets pumped up by this science-fiction fantasy helium into universe-sized proportions. And this is very appealing. It is especially appealing to the intelligentsia of this country, who are made to feel that they are the most highly intelligent people, when in actual fact, from an emotional standpoint, they are completely stupid. Fine professors, doctors, scientists, people involved in the arts and sciences, would fall into Scientology like you wouldn't believe. It appealed to their intellectual level and buttressed their emotional weaknesses. You show me a professor and I revert back to the fifties: I just kick him in the head, eat him for breakfast.
Penthouse: Did it attract young people as much as cults today?
Hubbard: Yes. We attracted quite a few hippies but we tried to stay a way from them
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don't have to give up their right to perceive things the way they believe. Scientology and all the other cults are one-dimensional, and we live in a three-dimensional world. Cults are as dangerous as drugs. They commit the highest crime: the rape of the soul.
Penthouse: You mentioned that Scientology attracted a great many well-known or important people. Can you give us some examples?
Hubbard: Two of the people we were involved with in the late fifties in England were Errol Flynn and a man who was high up in the Labor Party at the time. My father and Errol Flynn were very similar. They were only interested in money, sex, booze, and drugs. At that time, in the late fifties, Flynn was pretty much of a burned-out hulk. But he was involved in smuggling deals with my father: gold from the Mediterranean, and some drugs --mostly cocaine. They were both just a little larger than life. I had to admire my father from one standpoint. As I've said, he was a down-and-out, broke science-fiction writer, and then he writes one book of science-fiction and convinces the world it's true. He sells it to millions of people and gets billions of dollars and everyone thinks he's some sort of deity. He was really bigger than life. Flynn was like that, too. You could say many negative things about the two of them, but they did as they pleased and lived as they pleased. It was always fun to sit there at dinner and listen to these two guys rap. Wild people. Errol Flynn was like my father also in that he would do anything for money. He would take anything to bed --boys, girls, Fifty-year-old women, ten-year-old boys, Flynn and my father had insatiable appetites. Tons of mistresses. They lived very high on the hog.
----
Penthouse: And what about this Labor Party official?
Hubbard: He was a double agent for the KGB and for the British intelligence agency. He was also a raging homosexual. He wanted my father to use his black-magic, soul-cracking, brainwashing techniques on young boys. He wanted these boys as his own sexual slaves. He wanted to use my father's techniques to crack people's heads open because he was very influential in and around the British government --plus he was selling information to the Russians. And so was my father.
Penthouse: Your father was selling information to the Soviets?
Hubbard: Yes. That's where my father got the money to buy St. Hill Manor in East Grinstead, Sussex, which is the English headquarters of Scientology today.
Penthouse: What information did your father have to sell the Soviet government?
Hubbard: He didn't do any spying himself. What he normally did was allow these strange little people to go into the offices and into his home at odd hours of the night. He told me that he was allowing the KGB to go through our files, and that he was charging £40,000 for it. This was the money he used for the purchase of St. Hill Manor.
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/penthouse-LRonHubbardJr-interview-1983.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/penthouse-LRonHubbardJr-interview-1983.htm
27 October 2016 04:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Operation Snow White was the Church of Scientology's internal name for a major criminal conspiracy during the 1970s to purge unfavorable records about Scientology and its founder L. Ron Hubbard. This project included a series of infiltrations and thefts from 136 government agencies, foreign embassies and consulates, as well as private organizations critical of Scientology, carried out by Church members in more than 30 countries. It was one of the largest infiltrations of the United States government in history, with up to 5,000 covert agents"
Do i need to add what kind of deep soviet secret this organization bears ?
What kind of Dark rituals?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White
Related to Morals and Rituals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_and_sex
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And as them self, the ones who's almost brothers in crime help to breed the 1.1 ones, they know, the definitions of from the point what is important to them and them self:
"Hubbard's emotional tone scale, classifying individuals and human behaviour on a chart running from +40 (the most beneficial) to -40 (the least beneficial), gave sexual perversions a score of 1.1, "the level of the pervert, the hypocrite, the turncoat, ... the subversive". Such people, he argued, were "skulking coward[s] who yet contain[] enough perfidious energy to strike back, but not enough courage ever to give warning ""
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L. Ron Hubbard wrote that "sex crime" on an individual investigating Scientology should be reported to the press, in order to "Make it rough, rough on attackers all the way."[21] In an interview with Playboy magazine, Hubbard's estranged son Ronald DeWolf asserted that Auditing focused on sex and the individual's sex life, and could later be used as a form of control: "Auditing would address a guy's entire sex life. It was an incredible preoccupation. ... You have complete control over someone if you have every detail of his sex life and fantasy life on record. In Scientology the focus is on sex. Sex, sex, sex. The first thing we wanted to know about someone we were auditing was his sexual deviations. All you've got to do is find a person's kinks, whatever they might be. Their dreams and fantasies. Then you can fit a ring through their noses and take them anywhere. You promise to fulfill their fantasies or you threaten to expose them ... very simple."
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Hubbard called the physical world MEST (an acronym of "Matter, Energy, Space and Time"), which thetans (souls) temporarily operating "meat bodies" are meant to transcend and conquer. ] New recruits to the church are often classified as "raw meat" or "raw public". Scientologists refer to their bodies as "meat bodies" ]
Scientology emphasizes attaining "cause over MEST", and attaining the ability to abandon one's body via "exteriorization" and ultimately by becoming an Operating Thetan Clear and a Cleared Theta Clear
--
But before that, one more
https://whyweprotest.net/threads/scientology-convinced-playboy-magazine-to-stop-publishing-nude-pictures-of-women.131005/
(actually: " "Last month, Cory Jones, a top editor at Playboy, went to see its founder Hugh Hefner at the Playboy Mansion.
In a wood-paneled dining room, with Picasso and de Kooning prints on the walls, Mr. Jones nervously presented a radical suggestion: the magazine, a leader of the revolution that helped take sex in America from furtive to ubiquitous, should stop publishing images of naked women.
Mr. Hefner, now 89, but still listed as editor in chief, agreed. As part of a redesign that will be unveiled next March, the print edition of Playboy will still feature women in provocative poses. But they will no longer be fully nude " ) - adorable comments on short forum also.
Do i need to add what kind of deep soviet secret this organization bears ?
What kind of Dark rituals?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White
Related to Morals and Rituals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_and_sex
---
And as them self, the ones who's almost brothers in crime help to breed the 1.1 ones, they know, the definitions of from the point what is important to them and them self:
"Hubbard's emotional tone scale, classifying individuals and human behaviour on a chart running from +40 (the most beneficial) to -40 (the least beneficial), gave sexual perversions a score of 1.1, "the level of the pervert, the hypocrite, the turncoat, ... the subversive". Such people, he argued, were "skulking coward[s] who yet contain[] enough perfidious energy to strike back, but not enough courage ever to give warning ""
---
L. Ron Hubbard wrote that "sex crime" on an individual investigating Scientology should be reported to the press, in order to "Make it rough, rough on attackers all the way."[21] In an interview with Playboy magazine, Hubbard's estranged son Ronald DeWolf asserted that Auditing focused on sex and the individual's sex life, and could later be used as a form of control: "Auditing would address a guy's entire sex life. It was an incredible preoccupation. ... You have complete control over someone if you have every detail of his sex life and fantasy life on record. In Scientology the focus is on sex. Sex, sex, sex. The first thing we wanted to know about someone we were auditing was his sexual deviations. All you've got to do is find a person's kinks, whatever they might be. Their dreams and fantasies. Then you can fit a ring through their noses and take them anywhere. You promise to fulfill their fantasies or you threaten to expose them ... very simple."
---
Hubbard called the physical world MEST (an acronym of "Matter, Energy, Space and Time"), which thetans (souls) temporarily operating "meat bodies" are meant to transcend and conquer. ] New recruits to the church are often classified as "raw meat" or "raw public". Scientologists refer to their bodies as "meat bodies" ]
Scientology emphasizes attaining "cause over MEST", and attaining the ability to abandon one's body via "exteriorization" and ultimately by becoming an Operating Thetan Clear and a Cleared Theta Clear
--
But before that, one more
https://whyweprotest.net/threads/scientology-convinced-playboy-magazine-to-stop-publishing-nude-pictures-of-women.131005/
(actually: " "Last month, Cory Jones, a top editor at Playboy, went to see its founder Hugh Hefner at the Playboy Mansion.
In a wood-paneled dining room, with Picasso and de Kooning prints on the walls, Mr. Jones nervously presented a radical suggestion: the magazine, a leader of the revolution that helped take sex in America from furtive to ubiquitous, should stop publishing images of naked women.
Mr. Hefner, now 89, but still listed as editor in chief, agreed. As part of a redesign that will be unveiled next March, the print edition of Playboy will still feature women in provocative poses. But they will no longer be fully nude " ) - adorable comments on short forum also.
27 October 2016 04:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Presidential candidate Donald Trump attended a Scientology 4th of July party Monday afternoon in Hollywood, California.
TMZ covered the event outside the special Celebrity Scientology Building. They were briefly moved as secret service arrived to secure the location. After his podium had been set, Trump gave a speech.
Scroll down to read more...
“Scientologists are great people,” said Trump. “It’s one of the best religions, cults, groups, whatever you want to call it. And I need your money.”
News pundits assume the party was for fundraising, but Scientology has been in financial trouble for the past ten years. Only a few high profile celebrities donate a majority of the money to continue operations. But Trump is betting on gaining power within the pseudo-religion and fits right into his cult-like narrative.
Los Angeles local, Dave Silverman, told the LA Times, “The only Trump fans in Hollywood happen to be Scientologists. Strange coincidence.”
http://www.satiratribune.com/2016/07/04/trump-attends-scientology-4th-july-party/
A review of Trump University presenters revealed questionable credentials and inflated resumes.
TMZ covered the event outside the special Celebrity Scientology Building. They were briefly moved as secret service arrived to secure the location. After his podium had been set, Trump gave a speech.
Scroll down to read more...
“Scientologists are great people,” said Trump. “It’s one of the best religions, cults, groups, whatever you want to call it. And I need your money.”
News pundits assume the party was for fundraising, but Scientology has been in financial trouble for the past ten years. Only a few high profile celebrities donate a majority of the money to continue operations. But Trump is betting on gaining power within the pseudo-religion and fits right into his cult-like narrative.
Los Angeles local, Dave Silverman, told the LA Times, “The only Trump fans in Hollywood happen to be Scientologists. Strange coincidence.”
http://www.satiratribune.com/2016/07/04/trump-attends-scientology-4th-july-party/
A review of Trump University presenters revealed questionable credentials and inflated resumes.
http://www.satiratribune.com/2016/07/04/trump-attends-scientology-4th-july-party/
27 October 2016 04:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Trump University was a “fraudulent scheme and that it preyed on the elderly and to separate them from their money.” Ronald Schnackenberg, former Trump University sales manager, via CNN "
One student, who signed up because he was a great admirer of Trump, paid Trump University more than $26,000 for a 5-day real estate course. According to the CNN report, it was a bad experience from moment one, culminating with this:
“An instructor detailed the benefits of paying off unpaid tax debts of elderly people, keeping them in their homes until they die, and then taking ownership of their property.”
When the student discovered that the only thing Trump University was telling him was “how to steal people’s homes,” he realized he’d been the victim of a scam. (Did I mention you should watch the video?)
Daily News quotes some of the juicier bits of the documents
http://theresurgent.com/the-scientology-like-scam-the-klansman-and-donald-trump/
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2016/05/27/trump-university-student.cnnmoney/
One student, who signed up because he was a great admirer of Trump, paid Trump University more than $26,000 for a 5-day real estate course. According to the CNN report, it was a bad experience from moment one, culminating with this:
“An instructor detailed the benefits of paying off unpaid tax debts of elderly people, keeping them in their homes until they die, and then taking ownership of their property.”
When the student discovered that the only thing Trump University was telling him was “how to steal people’s homes,” he realized he’d been the victim of a scam. (Did I mention you should watch the video?)
Daily News quotes some of the juicier bits of the documents
http://theresurgent.com/the-scientology-like-scam-the-klansman-and-donald-trump/
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2016/05/27/trump-university-student.cnnmoney/
http://theresurgent.com/the-scientology-like-scam-the-klansman-and-donald-trump/
27 October 2016 04:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Good example is for example, when they murdered the Church leader wife mother in crude way, and even LA Dep-. of police or who them was there investigating, had to swear-to a lie on air, that kind of lie that no one would believe in any kind of knowing, obvious lie that should spread as wildfire, as a proof of conspiracy, but instead even barely any internet newspaper was ever able to report it, or show any interest at all, out of thousands of anti blogs.. anti blogs and pages that they them self run for getting base data and keeping humans near by feeding them inside information and by that keeping many fake clubs up, but the honest clubs are looked as alternative ones...
27 October 2016 03:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
If someone can kidnap first lady or main candidate in any internet wired country on board daylight in a way that all news around the world is prepared, like Scientology power (that is also soviet power) .. so freaks, - thinking the ones who meeting the Special Technology department representatives, but as their offers and deals are good, "do anything insane and we can assure global media will say how it is needed for You " for first one test proof, and another time big scale whatever You choose.
Like taking over america with Americans by force, by first collecting all gun owners around strategic place in millions, for last support (for diversion and protection), and even hand gun down opponent if it comes to this and providing proofs of later, that is fabricated so hard, in so many departments that are hold by balls, from already pre Operation Snow White times ... that most are put on to belief, that it was a bit harsh but for this what it was worth it is good...
But this is just a moments before possible internal home-war that at best case is activated as second plan, easy if on spot taking over would not work out, kind of on air, kind of like a show kind of like for real.. but as Hillary at best case would be exchanged, if her spirit would not be broken, for a more instruct-able copy, maybe that is to far..
.. but to think, that these people would not be able to do it, would be naive,
it is worth to try for enemy anyway, even if fails still is winning, (as long they will not initiate complete clean-out program, non stop, on besides everyone blocked out who wines against ones own government, or has done that and still does...red ones.. )
[extra for Snowwhite ... snowdown stuff kind of in pre internet..]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scandal_of_Scientology
Meta:
...And as them now are way more advanced.. and their leader wears a military uniform in meetings... from star people..
and as them have projects good that fit communist plans, with camps and everything for converting the ones who fail but who is not jet needed to be evaporated.
"Operation Snow White was the Church of Scientology's internal name for a major criminal conspiracy during the 1970s to purge unfavorable records about Scientology and its founder L. Ron Hubbard. This project included a series of infiltrations and thefts from 136 government agencies, foreign embassies and consulates, as well as private organizations critical of Scientology, carried out by Church members in more than 30 countries.[1] It was one of the largest infiltrations of the United States government in history, with up to 5,000 covert agents"
Like taking over america with Americans by force, by first collecting all gun owners around strategic place in millions, for last support (for diversion and protection), and even hand gun down opponent if it comes to this and providing proofs of later, that is fabricated so hard, in so many departments that are hold by balls, from already pre Operation Snow White times ... that most are put on to belief, that it was a bit harsh but for this what it was worth it is good...
But this is just a moments before possible internal home-war that at best case is activated as second plan, easy if on spot taking over would not work out, kind of on air, kind of like a show kind of like for real.. but as Hillary at best case would be exchanged, if her spirit would not be broken, for a more instruct-able copy, maybe that is to far..
.. but to think, that these people would not be able to do it, would be naive,
it is worth to try for enemy anyway, even if fails still is winning, (as long they will not initiate complete clean-out program, non stop, on besides everyone blocked out who wines against ones own government, or has done that and still does...red ones.. )
[extra for Snowwhite ... snowdown stuff kind of in pre internet..]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scandal_of_Scientology
Meta:
...And as them now are way more advanced.. and their leader wears a military uniform in meetings... from star people..
and as them have projects good that fit communist plans, with camps and everything for converting the ones who fail but who is not jet needed to be evaporated.
"Operation Snow White was the Church of Scientology's internal name for a major criminal conspiracy during the 1970s to purge unfavorable records about Scientology and its founder L. Ron Hubbard. This project included a series of infiltrations and thefts from 136 government agencies, foreign embassies and consulates, as well as private organizations critical of Scientology, carried out by Church members in more than 30 countries.[1] It was one of the largest infiltrations of the United States government in history, with up to 5,000 covert agents"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scandal_of_Scientology
27 October 2016 03:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Just to before i go to harder topics, i say, this is how Our kind actually see him as a man, any one, who is lacking love proper,
so we see one is still a human,
so this is why we can not underestimate this situation,
at best case happened in Estonia presidential elections ( www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/2027010/estonia-swears-biologist-turned-banker-kersti-kaljulaid-first ) but can something like that happen again, or is for This land, another road, something new for america, so someone REALLY actually wins in the end, eliminating other for real, (as it was different for Estonia, where opposite happened then our culture demands, : instead of going to the end over hard work we just arrived on our natural presence with no effort and connecting all sides, as it is our people, in here, but in Americas, if there is actual force in present that is in near wanting in to gov business with crooked idea, then this threat have to be eliminated to the end, asap or in correct time. )
so we see one is still a human,
so this is why we can not underestimate this situation,
at best case happened in Estonia presidential elections ( www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/2027010/estonia-swears-biologist-turned-banker-kersti-kaljulaid-first ) but can something like that happen again, or is for This land, another road, something new for america, so someone REALLY actually wins in the end, eliminating other for real, (as it was different for Estonia, where opposite happened then our culture demands, : instead of going to the end over hard work we just arrived on our natural presence with no effort and connecting all sides, as it is our people, in here, but in Americas, if there is actual force in present that is in near wanting in to gov business with crooked idea, then this threat have to be eliminated to the end, asap or in correct time. )
http://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/2027010/estonia-swears-biologist-turned-banker-kersti-kaljulaid-first
27 October 2016 03:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
27 October 2016 02:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
We can use them in rap videos or something, cool for children to climb on, can You imagine same machines that jump in Team America!
https://youtu.be/nOR906kzWlw?t=73
https://youtu.be/nOR906kzWlw?t=73
https://youtu.be/nOR906kzWlw?t=73
27 October 2016 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but talking about spiritual, even we would buy one artifact,
oh.. i forgot.. there is already some global rules, that if one steal stuff, specially if some country invented to say "you not allowed to use our stuff,( or else, no matter what we find in Your own friends to betray you over time for sure! And this sure is Godly ! )"
oh.. i forgot.. there is already some global rules, that if one steal stuff, specially if some country invented to say "you not allowed to use our stuff,( or else, no matter what we find in Your own friends to betray you over time for sure! And this sure is Godly ! )"
27 October 2016 02:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey, maybe not the spiritual or spiritually broken ones
27 October 2016 02:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
For Iraq, £billion is so small amount, to even consider, many valuable human loss... but for crude business man, this amount is even worth considering, even one human loss who is valuable ,
Some unexpected surprises can come, in so sophisticated locations, as they have non stop action movie 007 every day in all levels, and for loosing, yes, admit, super cars, ... but can You imagine what else was saved ?
Or what was it who drive away most likely hardcore ones, who else would have humbles trusted-
and why would you use Humvee for suicide, it to make fly apart really hard... besides for selling one, any country can give you 10 suicide bombers with explosives, or that amount of money. easy, that is same thing.
Some unexpected surprises can come, in so sophisticated locations, as they have non stop action movie 007 every day in all levels, and for loosing, yes, admit, super cars, ... but can You imagine what else was saved ?
Or what was it who drive away most likely hardcore ones, who else would have humbles trusted-
and why would you use Humvee for suicide, it to make fly apart really hard... besides for selling one, any country can give you 10 suicide bombers with explosives, or that amount of money. easy, that is same thing.
27 October 2016 02:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(who ever reads, no worry, i just practicing something, like someone practis melody, ... i just use this here to help to form some technology, yes, using real material as much can see fit also , )
27 October 2016 01:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
...so, the ISIS, who was used to capture the humbles BACK from Iraq ... and is this isis on the Gov Syria side or would Syria also fight against ISIS if given chance, but more efficiently even, guiding the local US and other aria Hebrew, Estonia etc intel, in arias about this kind of spirit that guides them and who is feeding it, or more correct, from where it feeds, and sorry if it is You, but we can togheder help to think how to handle this spirit we know many other way, they are kind of like You would say - street gang ideology level operated.
So You know same medicine works but as them are not ordinary victims, we can deal from all sides, inside out to clean out All traces, All the time
#DonaldTrump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLWaoMCUg0g
So You know same medicine works but as them are not ordinary victims, we can deal from all sides, inside out to clean out All traces, All the time
#DonaldTrump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLWaoMCUg0g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLWaoMCUg0g
27 October 2016 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
This are the songs i talked about before, that fit to Trump, but this one not on hes man fragle humble heart but the world that hes world lives in, not even, that he is for them, but is doing good in Them, what he spose to do he told, all world cameras was on him... really.. he had ALL CAMERAS and he run away, instead of NOW taking order, on SPOT, Non Stop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RTMbOnPExQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RTMbOnPExQ
27 October 2016 01:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA
27 October 2016 01:03
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
but yea, my point still remains,
women must start to tell each other more what is appropriate and what is not natural, if we love each other, and want to crumble the
Trumph society
women must start to tell each other more what is appropriate and what is not natural, if we love each other, and want to crumble the
Trumph society
27 October 2016 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on Willow Rothschild's photo.
She has it all
27 October 2016 00:12
Margus Meigo commented on Willow Rothschild's photo.
What is the parameters?
27 October 2016 00:11
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Rooste's post.
Group: Rahvameditsiin ja teadmised
Tavalise vana pesuseebiga paar-kolm päeva kuni nädal pesta eemaldab enamus sellised asjad
peale ohtuks laotada midagi taimset, kartulist kurgini vast sobib26 October 2016 23:41
Margus Meigo replied to Raivo Rooste's comment.
Group: Rahvameditsiin ja teadmised
tundus nagu üleval sama koht silmal ka nakatunud, punetab.. et kuidas siis ummistunud..26 October 2016 23:39
Margus Meigo replied to Helen Silm's comment.
Group: Rahvameditsiin ja teadmised
Põhi trikk on panna midagi antibiootikumi taolist enda peale, nagu kärbseseen jms, ja siis selle usu käigus, uskudes kõvasti, su keha ennast saabki peagi ravitud, eks see kulla asi ka nii toimi suures osas, kuid taimede puhul peaks veel parem olema tulemus,
lihtsalt raske leida neid kes sedasi keskenduda suudavad..26 October 2016 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to Helen Silm's comment.
Group: Rahvameditsiin ja teadmised
NU lopetage nüüd omavahel jauramine ära,
Mida siis päris rahvatarkus selliste asjade osas ütleb ja Viilmaa taolised tarkused?
Muidu näha on, et punn on nakatav, et on silma ülemist osa ka nakatanud,
... mina muidugi sööks psühedeelikume ja siis enda sees tarkustega ühendudes enamasti lahendusi tuleb, või siis mõne vaimu - energiate reaalste Nägijate juurde läheks, kes probleemi juurt näeb. Ja sellest edasi suunab,
kui usu võimuga inimesed olla, siis tugevad palved koos mentaalse raviga peaks ka kohe aitama, kuid ebauslikutena ja paganatena need otse ravimisvõimed meie enamuste kehadest ja ajust välja pügatud
(selline koolkond olemas kui Kristlik Teadus ja Kristuse Teadus, kas eri koolkonda, nad kohapeal ravisid kõiksugu võimalike asju vähem kui 100 a tagasi, ja õpetasid ka inimesi tasuta, kuidas oma süda, aju ja palvet kooskõlas kasutades teise inimese haigustest välja saab tõsta. Kuid kuna tegu radikaalselt kirikut ehmatava usukomuunidega ja kommunismi vastasusega, siis nendest palju kuulda pole, kuigi neil tuhandeid kirikuid üle maa )26 October 2016 23:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Well, it is reversed irony,
just to clearefy
just to clearefy
26 October 2016 02:22
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
Anyone who does not support Clinton, supports Trump, even if not voting, this is basic logic,
anyone who does not understand that should even not think about voting as one is not adult enough to understand what is going on
This is was between matriarchy and patriarchy, nothing to do with democrats or feminists elite politicians vs dickhead jerk business people eho deal directly with underground ,
it is about what direction humanity want to take..
anyone who does not understand that should even not think about voting as one is not adult enough to understand what is going on
This is was between matriarchy and patriarchy, nothing to do with democrats or feminists elite politicians vs dickhead jerk business people eho deal directly with underground ,
it is about what direction humanity want to take..
26 October 2016 02:17
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
Funny how these things are play around... actually this is Cliton dream plan to have these emails and more published and helps to ensure, her safety and success, besides showing importance, that she is really connected, with many issues, doing a lot of work....
has ever anyone found ANY bad email from Clinton, in there, that she should be ashamed about to be ??
has ever anyone found ANY bad email from Clinton, in there, that she should be ashamed about to be ??
26 October 2016 02:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
God works in mysterious ways,
but what would be left of any of us, if the pentagram would have got hes way, ... them actually was and have been thinking ways how to eliminate all kinds of real Hebrews, for long long time.. this happening made a seal, and as them was Jews, meaning, God people, then the real ones did their duty .. other pay their sins, and third ensured their savings
if you are on this kind of job, jeah.. doctors should have find better stimulants, but
is clear, to know, that anyone who makes this kind of reforms, against DIET of people and BEHAVIOR of people in direction of nature, (besides liking of painting, and veg's..) ... was on to something really good.. well, and also it seems he did not drink or smoke a lot? Or at all ?
And it is not like he made secret plan, as communists did, how to actually eliminate Hebrews, or Jews... once and for all.. he told them to leave ones country as one felt, them to be infiltrated by anti-religious people (portreied as Jews..) and helping anti-human couses ...
also as some of them helped communists was sure ,that them can not be real Jews, but fake ones, as Communism as we know has one of the main aim, as roman epire and wikings ... to eliminate God people,
then these can not be Real Jews ... but contaminated ones..
and to make sure one must clean out entire country.. and whatever leader of land say, if someone does not obay then who to blame.. is not like he stopped anyone to leave..
and perhaps they still was knowlageble about REAL plants... they must have been...
But yeah, this is besides all the basic what we also should feel about Gwerman history '
but what would be left of any of us, if the pentagram would have got hes way, ... them actually was and have been thinking ways how to eliminate all kinds of real Hebrews, for long long time.. this happening made a seal, and as them was Jews, meaning, God people, then the real ones did their duty .. other pay their sins, and third ensured their savings
if you are on this kind of job, jeah.. doctors should have find better stimulants, but
is clear, to know, that anyone who makes this kind of reforms, against DIET of people and BEHAVIOR of people in direction of nature, (besides liking of painting, and veg's..) ... was on to something really good.. well, and also it seems he did not drink or smoke a lot? Or at all ?
And it is not like he made secret plan, as communists did, how to actually eliminate Hebrews, or Jews... once and for all.. he told them to leave ones country as one felt, them to be infiltrated by anti-religious people (portreied as Jews..) and helping anti-human couses ...
also as some of them helped communists was sure ,that them can not be real Jews, but fake ones, as Communism as we know has one of the main aim, as roman epire and wikings ... to eliminate God people,
then these can not be Real Jews ... but contaminated ones..
and to make sure one must clean out entire country.. and whatever leader of land say, if someone does not obay then who to blame.. is not like he stopped anyone to leave..
and perhaps they still was knowlageble about REAL plants... they must have been...
But yeah, this is besides all the basic what we also should feel about Gwerman history '
26 October 2016 01:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And "hate speak" was to protect from real haters, to buy time.
Elimination of Germany was planned by France and other commies long before Hitler
Elimination of Germany was planned by France and other commies long before Hitler
26 October 2016 01:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Laurie Colson no, he did it to save Jews
26 October 2016 01:45
Margus Meigo replied to Ivar Karm's comment.
Dad have to be concerned
26 October 2016 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Adolf also did not feed the animals to eat them,
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater
26 October 2016 01:00
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Comparing HItler and Stalin for people minds in "Badness" level is like comparing Hillary and Trump,
26 October 2016 00:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(Obama)
24 October 2016 16:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You like it Hussein ?
24 October 2016 08:05
Margus Meigo commented on Shimon Dayan's post.
Group: Reformed Druids in Australia & New Zealand
chaos of Discordianism ?
Yea it is chaos to be to many times in life in disorientated and also24 October 2016 07:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i think it is not ensured, as many people are on skeptical ... so if would be transparent everyone would know good,
so, is so important to be transparent or to be openly involved with betterment of humans.
so, is so important to be transparent or to be openly involved with betterment of humans.
24 October 2016 07:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
.:. 83 M
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=536683
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=536683
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=536683
24 October 2016 07:06
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
They have to have some extreme trumps in pocket to allow to come out with all this and still keep hes position going,
23 October 2016 04:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
not even talking about just biological and psychological weapons, but also... well, yes,, mostly about these
23 October 2016 04:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
well, kind of is... most great big mind and nsa tec is public
also the ymake effort, to make public, ideas and tech that help you to realize, vizualise, what has been possible and will be ... to lower paranoia, to see there is no point... and that there is a lot of hope and IMPORTANCE to keep All that in right hands.,. or it will REALLY go out of hand...
also the ymake effort, to make public, ideas and tech that help you to realize, vizualise, what has been possible and will be ... to lower paranoia, to see there is no point... and that there is a lot of hope and IMPORTANCE to keep All that in right hands.,. or it will REALLY go out of hand...
23 October 2016 04:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and not just any politician, the one with a Dynasty
and not just any busness man, but with a savage thinking still, after receiving from god what any man could ask. many times over.
But in the end, is just a proper Question between matriarchy vs. Patriarchy vs Life
can woman deserve a Matriarchy, and and CAN them ALL now agree on one simple thing, that whatever they do,
America can handle, and provide wrong Nuke Codes if needed, but missing ideological chnace to choose between Ultimate symbol of Patriarchy and Matriarchy (last part can represent any women really, but even better, someone who has mastered " the (roman)man world" also, top of still appreciating women openly as allowing it self to label as feminist .... , even if not feminist, (not fanning the feminist thing to much as am Matriarhat'ist ))
Can the land of dreams handle, all the American Psycho's ... knowing what can them all do if REALLY to go after all of them.. as what for the data is collected, if not making sure, who is not needed to breed again
Silly, if there is REAL gangs in America, that hurt americans on soil, from school beatings to latino mafias or whatever kinds, ... how do we dare to send army to other lands then... before showing how we clean up our own land... for sure the other lands fight against anyone, who has these kind back in home and comes to say "how to be - look eat as, great success"
and really, it is, in so many fields, most of the fields, just some really needed ones is not put in action
in combination that is needed, openly also.
and not just any busness man, but with a savage thinking still, after receiving from god what any man could ask. many times over.
But in the end, is just a proper Question between matriarchy vs. Patriarchy vs Life
can woman deserve a Matriarchy, and and CAN them ALL now agree on one simple thing, that whatever they do,
America can handle, and provide wrong Nuke Codes if needed, but missing ideological chnace to choose between Ultimate symbol of Patriarchy and Matriarchy (last part can represent any women really, but even better, someone who has mastered " the (roman)man world" also, top of still appreciating women openly as allowing it self to label as feminist .... , even if not feminist, (not fanning the feminist thing to much as am Matriarhat'ist ))
Can the land of dreams handle, all the American Psycho's ... knowing what can them all do if REALLY to go after all of them.. as what for the data is collected, if not making sure, who is not needed to breed again
Silly, if there is REAL gangs in America, that hurt americans on soil, from school beatings to latino mafias or whatever kinds, ... how do we dare to send army to other lands then... before showing how we clean up our own land... for sure the other lands fight against anyone, who has these kind back in home and comes to say "how to be - look eat as, great success"
and really, it is, in so many fields, most of the fields, just some really needed ones is not put in action
in combination that is needed, openly also.
23 October 2016 04:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But Yea, will ya trust politician or businessman cash more?
23 October 2016 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuidas noilt elukombeid ühiskonnakorralduse osas võtma inimene ja see rahvas peaks, kuid eks neid ka.. jah tuleb vaadata kes punast ja sinist ilusti tasakaalus hoiab... tarkusi (Sinine . headus, teravpaljak) ja saladusi (punane, kärbseseen).
Rahvapärased nimed enne kommuniste, neil taimelaadsetel:
Tee Salajaste Peidetud Asjadeni . Kärbseseen
Tarkusekivi - Teravpaljak
(Kanep .- Vaesemehe Taevas)
Rahvapärased nimed enne kommuniste, neil taimelaadsetel:
Tee Salajaste Peidetud Asjadeni . Kärbseseen
Tarkusekivi - Teravpaljak
(Kanep .- Vaesemehe Taevas)
23 October 2016 04:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
23 October 2016 04:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
OKey, the last one, and perhaps 4 last comments, are not so relevant
23 October 2016 04:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So this about these Rooms,
Will go to another one now., Not to long stay in there, what is just for .. for a time.. moment,
If my next 2 months will go well, then by Christmas i should have over long time non blue Christmas.. from times... long times ago..
has just memory, of something what Christmas was.
My Song on the times / Eifel 65, Blue, ...but not the Flog thingy.. to much Ting-Ting, even if beat is better late 80s true rave for a moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ugkg9RePc
Will go to another one now., Not to long stay in there, what is just for .. for a time.. moment,
If my next 2 months will go well, then by Christmas i should have over long time non blue Christmas.. from times... long times ago..
has just memory, of something what Christmas was.
My Song on the times / Eifel 65, Blue, ...but not the Flog thingy.. to much Ting-Ting, even if beat is better late 80s true rave for a moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ugkg9RePc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ugkg9RePc
23 October 2016 04:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(just in case You started to look something, and wonder what to..)
23 October 2016 04:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But besides that we need extreme help in my view, to get my ideas working also, in all Levels,
But i go make something in kitchen and ..
:
If You like true Estonia movie, the nlook up "Kevade" from 60s
But i go make something in kitchen and ..
:
If You like true Estonia movie, the nlook up "Kevade" from 60s
23 October 2016 04:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aliens use BitCoin,
Maybe,
So it would be more easy for someone to buy all, if inter planetary, i mean a Earth external, money system is allowed finally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0tCaOI0UYM
Maybe,
So it would be more easy for someone to buy all, if inter planetary, i mean a Earth external, money system is allowed finally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0tCaOI0UYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0tCaOI0UYM
23 October 2016 03:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as She knows "There is to many happenings around the world to say that there is nothing related to extraterrestrials . I do not think people are thinking these story's out in their kitchen"
23 October 2016 03:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But what about Clinton ?
23 October 2016 03:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
23 October 2016 03:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
23 October 2016 03:52
Margus Meigo commented on Mikk Marran's photo.
Õige meie kultuuri tehnoloogia
23 October 2016 03:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(just related to the "hand that cradles the rock" -- thought of her huspand... )
23 October 2016 03:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Yea, her [electronica engineer educat.] husband worked in Teabeamet ("Büroo of Information" (www.NSA.ee / teabeamet.ee ) , ... but "information" in a word wersion that means actual useful data, kind of like word knowledge + useful-village story)
23 October 2016 03:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
In Last election
The two other main candidates was:
Siim Kallas, [Shore] and KaljuRand, Her who's last name was Cliff-beach but after third election try the opponents and opponent opponents was so much trolling each other and equaling up, that in the end they all, all party's decided to quit election and choose someone who is fitting to everyone who matters in most best way,
But yea, Rock Islet is good!
- ... so ...
The two other main candidates was:
Siim Kallas, [Shore] and KaljuRand, Her who's last name was Cliff-beach but after third election try the opponents and opponent opponents was so much trolling each other and equaling up, that in the end they all, all party's decided to quit election and choose someone who is fitting to everyone who matters in most best way,
But yea, Rock Islet is good!
- ... so ...
23 October 2016 03:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
President Meri: (meri, literally: Sea, Current president'y name is: The Rock Islet ). Our main political party is called Squirrels and opponents legendary party leader, owner of Tallinn, is called rhinoceros.
Great part of human names here is related to nature, any did not get Reformed with name that has no meaning or purpose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wqd54MwUto
Great part of human names here is related to nature, any did not get Reformed with name that has no meaning or purpose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wqd54MwUto
23 October 2016 03:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
First one was anthropologist, who hickhicked a train in deep russia while banned from Russia, and give video convergence in a bathroom,
current one is Biologist, mother with four kids, With
current one is Biologist, mother with four kids, With
23 October 2016 03:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
No, we extremely conservative and Old Age,
saving people from New Age
Last "New Age" we had was a Communism,...o
saving people from New Age
Last "New Age" we had was a Communism,...o
23 October 2016 03:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Can You imagine, In Estonia, liberals, libe- (means: s-lickery, Est. ) .. in Estonia, them try to make agenda against President #KristiinaKaljulaid because people in general did not know Her
(unless You was on high level aware of some sciences, businesses or politics related that She is involved with, but not been in media besides with some Cultural reports etc)
.. to bring that someones minus.. but yea, we try to fix a situation
Anyway,, internal issue here.. big campaings happen now also against last one.. but at least, we managed to get Her, as a president, now we must find a ways, how She can really do there, what is needed for Her, as a Mother
Our first President who was anthropologist, recommend (lightly) to take measure and advice from Shamans, how to organize world..
Mother Earth News
(unless You was on high level aware of some sciences, businesses or politics related that She is involved with, but not been in media besides with some Cultural reports etc)
.. to bring that someones minus.. but yea, we try to fix a situation
Anyway,, internal issue here.. big campaings happen now also against last one.. but at least, we managed to get Her, as a president, now we must find a ways, how She can really do there, what is needed for Her, as a Mother
Our first President who was anthropologist, recommend (lightly) to take measure and advice from Shamans, how to organize world..
Mother Earth News
23 October 2016 02:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
People talk about it, not even funny but if that analyze is correct, it is sad,
let's hope it is just a appearance and actions that reflect wrong image about Donald Trump missing masculinity
https://www.facebook.com/laurie.colson.7/posts/10154662994573588?comment_id=10154663016653588&reply_comment_id=10154663058993588¬if_t=feed_comment_reply¬if_id=1477178506490680
let's hope it is just a appearance and actions that reflect wrong image about Donald Trump missing masculinity
https://www.facebook.com/laurie.colson.7/posts/10154662994573588?comment_id=10154663016653588&reply_comment_id=10154663058993588¬if_t=feed_comment_reply¬if_id=1477178506490680
23 October 2016 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But yea.. so how can we help Trump
So Clinton can use him better to secure the America Dream ?
So Clinton can use him better to secure the America Dream ?
23 October 2016 02:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i do better already even with out a money, whit out any at all
23 October 2016 02:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
specialy if they got money do do whatever... and then they do that ?
Really... what would i do..
Really... what would i do..
23 October 2016 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This was meant as with less insult:; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTHNpusq654
But the video, what they show about self boosting, is fitting also.
Manly (free) man should not wear a tight clothes like that.
But the video, what they show about self boosting, is fitting also.
Manly (free) man should not wear a tight clothes like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTHNpusq654
23 October 2016 02:35
Margus Meigo commented on Victoria Spenzsa's photo.
Are You serious?
23 October 2016 02:25
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
better, and now same with the last beautiful sentence
23 October 2016 02:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
all of it, safe to assume, but hope not.. sitll.. hope in the end..
23 October 2016 02:23
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
me needs explenation, me blonded moment
23 October 2016 02:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
you know, weakest one, based on money and fame, and power of that is not based on deep Earthly knowledge but will stay only as long world is crooked
23 October 2016 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
23 October 2016 02:20
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
At least he is not a gay, can You imagine how afraid then most man would be afraid to meet him on private poltical situations... would dominate most of them, Putin at least got black belt to protect Him self, but Putin is going by the rules... and a Peoples Magazine women's training did not give her strong advantage, even when She practiced with Tyson.
23 October 2016 02:19
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
it gets few kind of man to crab women by the vagina,
even if he got the weakest one of the certainty, it is still powerful, specially if You know for real, he can grab You to, so what You do?
even if he got the weakest one of the certainty, it is still powerful, specially if You know for real, he can grab You to, so what You do?
23 October 2016 02:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry1HjgHTNCo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry1HjgHTNCo
23 October 2016 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(of-course the google search results are totality fake, there is no so many pages they can show You, often it is millions of times less )
23 October 2016 02:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Arbeit macht frei
Work iT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjIvu7e6Wq8
Work iT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjIvu7e6Wq8
23 October 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
.:. Nüüd on Minu Kord!
Koikson:
Tuulevaiksel ööl, tean mismoodi lööb
udukell su laevaninas, paigal püsib aeg.
Tuulevaiksel ööl, süda kiirelt lööb -
oodanud sind olen kaua, veidi jäänud veel.
Sulle tahan hüüda juba veel ja veel ja veel,
tuulesuund on nord, nüüd on minu kord
teha tormi sinu südames.
Tätte:
Tuulevaikne öö, udukell vaid lööb.
Käed, mis tahtsid rooliratast tahavad nüüd sind.
Kumer silmapiir, lahku meid kord viis.
Sina otsid valget purje, mina otsin maad.
Sulle tahan hüüda juba veel ja veel ja veel,
tuulesuund on nord, nüüd on minu kord
teha tormi sinu südames.
Koos (x2):
Sulle tahan hüüda juba veel ja veel ja veel,
tuulesuund on nord, nüüd on minu kord
teha tormi sinu südames.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rxqK_7cYEg
Koikson:
Tuulevaiksel ööl, tean mismoodi lööb
udukell su laevaninas, paigal püsib aeg.
Tuulevaiksel ööl, süda kiirelt lööb -
oodanud sind olen kaua, veidi jäänud veel.
Sulle tahan hüüda juba veel ja veel ja veel,
tuulesuund on nord, nüüd on minu kord
teha tormi sinu südames.
Tätte:
Tuulevaikne öö, udukell vaid lööb.
Käed, mis tahtsid rooliratast tahavad nüüd sind.
Kumer silmapiir, lahku meid kord viis.
Sina otsid valget purje, mina otsin maad.
Sulle tahan hüüda juba veel ja veel ja veel,
tuulesuund on nord, nüüd on minu kord
teha tormi sinu südames.
Koos (x2):
Sulle tahan hüüda juba veel ja veel ja veel,
tuulesuund on nord, nüüd on minu kord
teha tormi sinu südames.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rxqK_7cYEg
23 October 2016 01:54
Margus Meigo commented on Matlaktli Ocelotcihuatl's photo.
burning the fire
23 October 2016 01:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
23 October 2016 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
23 October 2016 01:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
jAHUVAD ja jahuvad.. kudias see tänapäeva Kuku stiilis sobib lasta..
23 October 2016 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Krooniaja alguse, ja praeguse aja vahe on raha suhtes 1:1 ENAMUSTES AJSADES
23 October 2016 01:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nagu Liberaali al mõtlen, Eesti Riigi vastaselt ja ilma austuse ja ausus tundeta, luues lugu mitte südamest pidevalt rääkides,
Luues nagu viisakalt rääkides, kuidas teised räägivad ja jahuvad selles,t aga ise ainukesena avas raadios selle teema, ja mitte, et see loppeks vaid ikka arutada, ilma plaanita,.. .
Mis mõtle, plaan, saate lopuks oli Miks seda harjutust, omavahel arutmaist siis eetri oli vaja lasta Arutand ära, teinud selgeks, ja siis rääkinud,
Ja summa mis tagais maksma peaks võiks olla ikka sama nominaal väärtusega mis siis mäki indeks näitas, või Toolse indeks (leiva)
Luues nagu viisakalt rääkides, kuidas teised räägivad ja jahuvad selles,t aga ise ainukesena avas raadios selle teema, ja mitte, et see loppeks vaid ikka arutada, ilma plaanita,.. .
Mis mõtle, plaan, saate lopuks oli Miks seda harjutust, omavahel arutmaist siis eetri oli vaja lasta Arutand ära, teinud selgeks, ja siis rääkinud,
Ja summa mis tagais maksma peaks võiks olla ikka sama nominaal väärtusega mis siis mäki indeks näitas, või Toolse indeks (leiva)
23 October 2016 01:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
hastag
22 October 2016 21:07
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Muidugi rohkem vaja oleks seda, seltsilist, kellega koos panna
22 October 2016 16:02
Margus Meigo replied to Meeli Lepson's comment.
Ideaalne!!
22 October 2016 16:00
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's photo.
Hmm... mäletan seda hippy tressikat.. :)
22 October 2016 15:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See plugin oleks ka, nagu see juba Core plugin, ja frameworky Mood, ... oleks ütlenud..
aga enne justtuli meelde, et mood ple hea.. siis eisaa enda meedimisi ka jätkata,
(nu osasi siis kui hian siis hoian meeldivalt)
aga enne justtuli meelde, et mood ple hea.. siis eisaa enda meedimisi ka jätkata,
(nu osasi siis kui hian siis hoian meeldivalt)
22 October 2016 01:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja isegi väliste tehnoloogiatega
22 October 2016 01:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kas maakeral on teada, kedagi niii tarka, kes oleks isiklikult sõber olnud, inimesega, kes reaalse teaduse avaliku sajaduse tasemel teaks, et liike saab ja saab kuidas muuta ka paljude muude vahenditega
22 October 2016 01:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Muidu eisaa ralli soita ju, kuig, tegelikult on olemas ka mud moodused, enamus ühiskonna omasi, kuid mulle sobiks kui kõigil need võimalused mugavamaks läheksid, ja selletuunimise plugin on ka tolle sees lisaks liigi aretusele , või ettekujutamine, et aretad mingit liiiki, ise...
Ise ei oska nisu ega suvalise umbvilja seemetki laboris veeel teha ja jahvatab siin
Ise ei oska nisu ega suvalise umbvilja seemetki laboris veeel teha ja jahvatab siin
22 October 2016 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Vot, sellise segaduse vältimiseks, mul see protaal ka vaja teha, millest Zukiga ennist rääkisin
22 October 2016 01:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aa vist ple vaja ka, mängib juba mu peas.
Kuid siia ikkagi oleks ka linki vaja
Kuid siia ikkagi oleks ka linki vaja
22 October 2016 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
like when i explained word meainings in England, people thinked i was talking sexually
or when talking truth
or when talking truth
22 October 2016 01:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jessica Fox
22 October 2016 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
no mention here nothing, or Rob from UK will hit me
22 October 2016 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
where the cross come
22 October 2016 01:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oh, i meant: Take look at this forest russian video, and think, can it be Your CD promo ?
But more feminen? feminen... Ankh...
But more feminen? feminen... Ankh...
22 October 2016 01:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Can be ?
22 October 2016 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(actually i do not know, but is it possible ?)
22 October 2016 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see ka
22 October 2016 01:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Saksa saab ainult siis olla see mis iagnes öeldakse ja soovitakse, kui ta inimestega koostööd teKs
22 October 2016 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuni sinnamaani " We are natural"
Et see sakslastele
Et see sakslastele
22 October 2016 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
On the video 20:50
22 October 2016 00:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
unknowable
22 October 2016 00:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(this is also inside soft, related to unthinkable
22 October 2016 00:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
whatever, fb offered,
i like this random life luck feature of FB also, but want to add some structures and guiding proper lines that would keep this Digital Giant, in safe roads.... as most powerful train, non stop... something can happen if not worked on proper Growing level.
And have peace in all and solutions for unknowable
i like this random life luck feature of FB also, but want to add some structures and guiding proper lines that would keep this Digital Giant, in safe roads.... as most powerful train, non stop... something can happen if not worked on proper Growing level.
And have peace in all and solutions for unknowable
22 October 2016 00:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I am dyscraphic, srry for my Kleinstaaterei — Disunion of Germany
22 October 2016 00:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tuleb alati iga asja peale moleda, mis ebamäärane tundub, et ka selgeks õppida ja läbi tunnetada
22 October 2016 00:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
22 October 2016 00:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
filmi lopuni siis tagasi tapetima
22 October 2016 00:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi loodam,e et homme muud motted peas ple ilma, et neid meeles hoidma hakka, ikka eri ajaliikumise versioonid käivad peast läbi, seega ppole vaja liialt keskenduda, et ühest kinni hoida
22 October 2016 00:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Like many versions of time,
there is as am told before, in a way i use time name as for what for You use time, This is closest to say, Wersions of time,
aga selle video ma saan informatiivseks teha kui soovite.
See on lisa väike setting ka selles portaalis ,
panna mis iganes info sisse sinna uurimiseks ja see näiab EERITI hästi kogu teemat selle kohta parimat viissil, see
there is as am told before, in a way i use time name as for what for You use time, This is closest to say, Wersions of time,
aga selle video ma saan informatiivseks teha kui soovite.
See on lisa väike setting ka selles portaalis ,
panna mis iganes info sisse sinna uurimiseks ja see näiab EERITI hästi kogu teemat selle kohta parimat viissil, see
22 October 2016 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(selle videoga seoses, ütleb nüüd faktidest mille vastu ei saa vaielda... https://youtu.be/UHkiZNT3cyE?t=1433 )
https://youtu.be/UHkiZNT3cyE?t=1433
21 October 2016 23:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
21 October 2016 23:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(not when they throw it out of roof, as this new Classical Consert)
21 October 2016 23:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But to much stor ystill, he should talk straight, but lets try to tune in and turn us arou,
i like piano
i like piano
21 October 2016 23:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Loead down, and look also, Torch browseril on kohe video laadia nupp üleval paremal sinise noolega))
21 October 2016 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
21 October 2016 23:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
When thye was bombing these treees down, u know the proper dinosaurus elimination time or someting like that.
21 October 2016 23:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
j kes Need on
21 October 2016 23:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid yea, siis peab kysima kuidas ja miks seda lubati...
21 October 2016 23:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Nuidugi netis palju teemasi mis paljusi veelgi rohkem naerma ajab, kuid as ing keeles öeldakse: hold your breath rather, who laughts last... this one is alive at least.
But yea, meid siia väiksemasse paraleeli transporditi..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmJLGWsUDKE
But yea, meid siia väiksemasse paraleeli transporditi..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmJLGWsUDKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmJLGWsUDKE
21 October 2016 23:32
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Lightman's post.
This will come but much more efficiant
21 October 2016 23:14
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ja see, et habe seksuaalsusega seotud on, et hoiab mehe ÕIGE seksuaalsuse ligidal, sest need südamea kontakt ja siis ka kogu arusaam on läbi südame ehk läbi selle ogani mille sisu kõige olulisem nii naisel kui meie loojal,
isegi kui neil oleks vahet
isegi kui neil oleks vahet
21 October 2016 23:13
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Naersid ette ära juba : )
21 October 2016 23:12
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Naera Naera, ise kiilakas :p
(seksuaalsus siis tähendab kristlikus terminiloogias mitte seksuaal acti, vaikd kogu spektrumit tundeid ja ja peeneid nüannse, kohalolekut, üliäärmusliku imtiimsust ja sügavat teadvustatud Jumalale alluvat seksuaalset kirge.
Sest see on ju võimalik, et KÕIGE olulisem mida tegemata jätad või teed .
Paljudel meie meestel, aga on muu vaim see mis vända töös hoiab, eks see on ka lahendus.. igaõhele oma.. mees saab ise ka "oma jao" hetkeks (lühiajalise tugeva süsti mõnu ja eelneva iha käes püheramise näol) .. kuigi nende seas kelles võõras vaim seksuaaltungi juhib, on see lugu, et nad lausa hakkavad paaniliselt vajama, sõltuma, taga ajama, ja eriti hullunud lausa nõudma, arvates, et meestel on ka mingisugunegi õigus seksile, kunagi üldse olnud.
Mõned läbi manipulatsiooni, hirmutamise või suure halaga suudavad isegi (sh. oma suhtes oleva) naise sinnamaani viia, et ta teeb patu ja magab siis pool kohustuse tundest ja vähema tähenduslikusega, andes mehele mitte seda eluiga mida õige akti aeg mees saaks vabatahtlikult vastu võtta allutades enda vaimud Naisele läbi looja arusaama
http://www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm )
Nukruses siis matab naime maha lootuse, et päris Seksuaalsust kogeda... kui just minig lounamaa mees vms lubaja kuskil, kes just Selle tahu imiteerimise õppinud ja sellest piisab, et suuuri hulkasi naisi väärastuma panna, kuid See naine teab, et see oli seda väärt, sest ta sai Päris elu vähemalt kogeda... sest eks naise päris orgasmid ole ikka väga korralikud ja suured mitmeajalised tripid ... teatke seda ka hippid : )
(seksuaalsus siis tähendab kristlikus terminiloogias mitte seksuaal acti, vaikd kogu spektrumit tundeid ja ja peeneid nüannse, kohalolekut, üliäärmusliku imtiimsust ja sügavat teadvustatud Jumalale alluvat seksuaalset kirge.
Sest see on ju võimalik, et KÕIGE olulisem mida tegemata jätad või teed .
Paljudel meie meestel, aga on muu vaim see mis vända töös hoiab, eks see on ka lahendus.. igaõhele oma.. mees saab ise ka "oma jao" hetkeks (lühiajalise tugeva süsti mõnu ja eelneva iha käes püheramise näol) .. kuigi nende seas kelles võõras vaim seksuaaltungi juhib, on see lugu, et nad lausa hakkavad paaniliselt vajama, sõltuma, taga ajama, ja eriti hullunud lausa nõudma, arvates, et meestel on ka mingisugunegi õigus seksile, kunagi üldse olnud.
Mõned läbi manipulatsiooni, hirmutamise või suure halaga suudavad isegi (sh. oma suhtes oleva) naise sinnamaani viia, et ta teeb patu ja magab siis pool kohustuse tundest ja vähema tähenduslikusega, andes mehele mitte seda eluiga mida õige akti aeg mees saaks vabatahtlikult vastu võtta allutades enda vaimud Naisele läbi looja arusaama
http://www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm )
Nukruses siis matab naime maha lootuse, et päris Seksuaalsust kogeda... kui just minig lounamaa mees vms lubaja kuskil, kes just Selle tahu imiteerimise õppinud ja sellest piisab, et suuuri hulkasi naisi väärastuma panna, kuid See naine teab, et see oli seda väärt, sest ta sai Päris elu vähemalt kogeda... sest eks naise päris orgasmid ole ikka väga korralikud ja suured mitmeajalised tripid ... teatke seda ka hippid : )
http://www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm
21 October 2016 23:12
Margus Meigo replied to Victoria Halik's comment.
Can You tell me few words, so we can see You are real ?
21 October 2016 22:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
True True
21 October 2016 22:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Like that kind 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwcTnIzlq3o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwcTnIzlq3o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwcTnIzlq3o
21 October 2016 22:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Like that kind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghv5M210_HU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghv5M210_HU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghv5M210_HU
21 October 2016 22:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Greetings to Linda as well:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209793310646210&set=t.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209793310646210&set=t.1135161043&type=3&theater
21 October 2016 22:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
From:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKbl8V4468E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKbl8V4468E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKbl8V4468E
21 October 2016 22:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
In Estonia, that is called Muinas Jutt, meanig: "old time story"
We also got literally fairy and ghst story's and much more, also "loba jutt" and Tõsijutt (true story!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:European_fairy_tales
In Estonia, that is called Muinas Jutt, meanig: "old time story"
We also got literally fairy and ghst story's and much more, also "loba jutt" and Tõsijutt (true story!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:European_fairy_tales
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:European_fairy_tales
21 October 2016 22:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
.:.
http://www.seiklejad.org/projects-in-2011-and-earlier.html
http://www.seiklejad.org/projects-in-2011-and-earlier.html
http://www.seiklejad.org/projects-in-2011-and-earlier.html
21 October 2016 22:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY&list=PLsXelNZnKcxnWDnxpja771qWx1ctXFPHl&index=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY&list=PLsXelNZnKcxnWDnxpja771qWx1ctXFPHl&index=1
21 October 2016 22:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
.:.
What is going on in Your mind
https://youtu.be/BqUlZaW8rd4?t=417
What is going on in Your mind
https://youtu.be/BqUlZaW8rd4?t=417
21 October 2016 22:31
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
seda minagi
21 October 2016 17:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehk vaimu maailmas oli siis lisaks muule ka selles kohas mehe südamele test, nägemaks mis ta on, ja lisaks muiduigi veel see, mis on silmaga näha
21 October 2016 17:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kuid need, keda eelmises postituses mainisin, neil vaja hoida seda.. illusiooni et liha nagu kuidagigi kasulik oleks oma "uuringutega" kus siis mitte ei võrrelda, kas juurviljadest ja pähklitest liha kasulikum on (kuna seda võiamtu ja mõtetu võrrelda, tõismeelsel, see niigi ilmselge) kuid nad võrdlevad pigem kui mitte kahjulik liha on ajutiselt füüsilisele kehale.
Muidug laia pilti node asjadega eivaadata, sest need "muud teadusharud, millese see uuring ei puutu.."
kuigi ion teada, et kui inimene kuuaega ainult liha sööks siis ta sureks kergesti, kuid ei ole veel maailmas kuulda olnud, et oleks võimalik juurviljadesse usrra, isegi kõige veidrama haiguse puhul.
Ja kui , ju siis on vaja.
Lisaks lased ühe pahaks siis läheb mürgiseks, võid surma saada, lased teise pahaks, rikub ainult maitse ära ja maksimaalselt võid kohulahtisuse saada, kui sedagi peale harjumist. Halva lihaga aga inimene nii naljat ei saa harjuda, sest SEE POLE LOODUD inimloomale söögiks ja pole kunagi olnud, va . hypoteeetilisel ajal, kui taimi ei olnud ja oli ainult loomi (kuid mida need loomad siis sõid..)
Muidug laia pilti node asjadega eivaadata, sest need "muud teadusharud, millese see uuring ei puutu.."
kuigi ion teada, et kui inimene kuuaega ainult liha sööks siis ta sureks kergesti, kuid ei ole veel maailmas kuulda olnud, et oleks võimalik juurviljadesse usrra, isegi kõige veidrama haiguse puhul.
Ja kui , ju siis on vaja.
Lisaks lased ühe pahaks siis läheb mürgiseks, võid surma saada, lased teise pahaks, rikub ainult maitse ära ja maksimaalselt võid kohulahtisuse saada, kui sedagi peale harjumist. Halva lihaga aga inimene nii naljat ei saa harjuda, sest SEE POLE LOODUD inimloomale söögiks ja pole kunagi olnud, va . hypoteeetilisel ajal, kui taimi ei olnud ja oli ainult loomi (kuid mida need loomad siis sõid..)
21 October 2016 12:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Elementaarne, kuid meeldiv lugeda, et ammu juba, sajand tagasi siin keeles ka noid asju kirjutatud
21 October 2016 12:21
Margus Meigo replied to Isa Linda's comment.
i gotta work on it a bit more
...so portrait would be worth to keep
...so portrait would be worth to keep
21 October 2016 02:30
Margus Meigo replied to Isa Linda's comment.
Best thing told to me so far
21 October 2016 02:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid liha iha tung ei pruugigi liha kõige esimene kõrvalmõju olla
21 October 2016 02:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Moned tulid sellistest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlEfCUIAfc4
lahti saama ja Sul oli uks lukkus,
ja nad siis pidid iPode minema mängima? Mis ajast need asjd kinni on kus on logika`? Eriti öösel võib rohkem inim vaja minna, häda olukorras ju. kuid see selleks,
inglismaal olid ka kinni, on ikka ilmamaa
lahti saama ja Sul oli uks lukkus,
ja nad siis pidid iPode minema mängima? Mis ajast need asjd kinni on kus on logika`? Eriti öösel võib rohkem inim vaja minna, häda olukorras ju. kuid see selleks,
inglismaal olid ka kinni, on ikka ilmamaa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlEfCUIAfc4
21 October 2016 02:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But sometimes, many way reversed, for testing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2v54CJ8_UI
But yea.. will be no happy päewa sulle kui neid asju endas nägema hakkad mida oleme sisse lasknud neid kaasas kandes ja toites, täitsa ebameeldivaid hiagusi neis isegi saab kaasas olla, kui need nö enrgiad resideeruvad sinus
But yea.. will be no happy päewa sulle kui neid asju endas nägema hakkad mida oleme sisse lasknud neid kaasas kandes ja toites, täitsa ebameeldivaid hiagusi neis isegi saab kaasas olla, kui need nö enrgiad resideeruvad sinus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2v54CJ8_UI
21 October 2016 02:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
21 October 2016 01:39
Margus Meigo replied to Adriana Iv's comment.
science lacks the fundamental,
or rahter, not the science,
but the education of Greek-Roman factory system, lacks elementary: they not know why they are
greatest advancement Greek-ROman was for one dude, discovering that one can think while daydreaming and assume,d this is sufficient be Be
or rahter, not the science,
but the education of Greek-Roman factory system, lacks elementary: they not know why they are
greatest advancement Greek-ROman was for one dude, discovering that one can think while daydreaming and assume,d this is sufficient be Be
20 October 2016 22:31
Margus Meigo replied to Adriana Iv's comment.
or minds is fine, if they are guided proper
20 October 2016 22:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Piiblis, Tarkus on kujutatud naisena, ja naine tarkusena (otse tee Õprtussonad 8:24 ntex)
20 October 2016 22:26
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's photo.
Elementary,
but girls them self have to REALLY understand this also and take responsibility (´as representatives of god, only chance for man soul, real liff) for life, , proper seriously,
This means, telling mistakes to other women's and correcting them so they can be better of what You are here for , not ever competing against other women's as end mean but looking ways how to help hem to find love
but girls them self have to REALLY understand this also and take responsibility (´as representatives of god, only chance for man soul, real liff) for life, , proper seriously,
This means, telling mistakes to other women's and correcting them so they can be better of what You are here for , not ever competing against other women's as end mean but looking ways how to help hem to find love
20 October 2016 22:21
Margus Meigo replied to Adriana Iv's comment.
not nessesary good, just having potential to hit a jackpot one day if they keep up and life can bear it
20 October 2016 22:12
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kordus ka tuli selest just.
Ja saatejuht meelega veab neid ka kaasa tuudios hiljem, et küsib sunavaid kysimusi nagu hooliks
Ja saatejuht meelega veab neid ka kaasa tuudios hiljem, et küsib sunavaid kysimusi nagu hooliks
20 October 2016 22:11
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
mingi liberaalsuse juts käis pidevalt ja siimu süü oli et ta polnud piisavalt liberaalne reformi jaoks ja regormi süü et ta pole piisavalt kaasaegselt liberaalne,
Kuid siis erinevas skaalas ruulisid sotid ja keskad,
iagathes kui tajuda mis reaalsus see on ja kuidas tulnud, ja mida nad siis rääkisid, siis päris jube oli ;
isegi kui nad pidevalt siirad oleks olnud.
Kuid siis erinevas skaalas ruulisid sotid ja keskad,
iagathes kui tajuda mis reaalsus see on ja kuidas tulnud, ja mida nad siis rääkisid, siis päris jube oli ;
isegi kui nad pidevalt siirad oleks olnud.
20 October 2016 22:08
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
see pidi setu-up olema riigi raadio pooolt, et Selliseid tundma oppida
20 October 2016 22:08
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kuula seda teemat mis nad sleles saates see kellaeg rääkisid, saad klommbi kurku
20 October 2016 22:08
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ega nad sääl paremaks ei lähe
20 October 2016 22:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mis vfirma oma sul see n,neid mitmeid
20 October 2016 21:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
saavad ikka aru, et SEE ongi see Elu vastane mille vastu me eisisad, meie riik ja muu usklik ilm koos loodusrahvastega iidamast aadamast võidelnud on,
ja suur hulk kes kaasa teselnud punaseid j aliberaalseid, ega nad ka seda naeratust ei saa kauem näol hoidsa kui ora seljas valutama hakkab, südames ka... kaua võib rahvas mitte aru saada mis olukorras inimkond on, ja kui vaba.. nad loodavad, et te nüüd loetkisite ja saaksite vaikides ise aru, misk kõik kuss on kes positsiooonil ja aru saanud, mille vastu..
ja suur hulk kes kaasa teselnud punaseid j aliberaalseid, ega nad ka seda naeratust ei saa kauem näol hoidsa kui ora seljas valutama hakkab, südames ka... kaua võib rahvas mitte aru saada mis olukorras inimkond on, ja kui vaba.. nad loodavad, et te nüüd loetkisite ja saaksite vaikides ise aru, misk kõik kuss on kes positsiooonil ja aru saanud, mille vastu..
20 October 2016 16:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vaba ja Ekre loodi samal ajal sama projekti kahe poole jaoks
20 October 2016 14:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
liberaalsele????????
20 October 2016 14:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Gossips like that has bee years.. always it seems as USA try to provoke war,
as we know the USA does not have to much need for pervert moral so bad to start o make this kind of propaganda then who else is interested? )
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/america-will-force-russias-hand-the-united-states-will-start-world-war-iii_02262016
as we know the USA does not have to much need for pervert moral so bad to start o make this kind of propaganda then who else is interested? )
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/america-will-force-russias-hand-the-united-states-will-start-world-war-iii_02262016
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/america-will-force-russias-hand-the-united-states-will-start-world-war-iii_02262016
20 October 2016 11:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
20 October 2016 11:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Until they have that understanding and more, today’s techniques will seem crude. By comparison, nobody would attempt to fix a malfunctioning smartphone by zapping it with a current from a couple of electrodes. Nor would they repair a crashed website with a powerful external magnetic field.
In fact, only a tiny fraction of possible malfunctions of information technologies could be tackled in this way.
And so it is likely to be with the human brain. An information-based approach is likely to be much more powerful.
The link between information and mind is today poorly understood. If an improved understanding is one legacy from this kind of work, it will have been a significant step forward.
Ref: arxiv.org/abs/1610.04134: Mind Control: Frontiers in Guiding the Mind Traveling
In fact, only a tiny fraction of possible malfunctions of information technologies could be tackled in this way.
And so it is likely to be with the human brain. An information-based approach is likely to be much more powerful.
The link between information and mind is today poorly understood. If an improved understanding is one legacy from this kind of work, it will have been a significant step forward.
Ref: arxiv.org/abs/1610.04134: Mind Control: Frontiers in Guiding the Mind Traveling
http://arxiv.org/abs/1610.04134
20 October 2016 11:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"For example, neuroscientists think the fronto-parietal system controls our ability to switch between tasks. Curiously, this system is not strongly linked to other parts of the brain, but theoretical work has already shown that it appears to work by moving the brain into difficult-to-reach states along a kind of energy landscape. So one avenue for mind control might be to use energy injections to guide the brain through this landscape.
Just how this can be done isn’t entirely clear, but there are several technologies that have potential. These include transcranial magnetic stimulation, which uses an external magnetic field to induce currents in parts of the brain, along with various implanted stimulators, which inject energy directly. Improving the resolution of this kind of energy injection is an important future goal.
No discussion of brain control would be complete without a mention of ethics. Medaglia and co spend some time outlining current thinking on this topic. They base their discussion on the four basic principles of medical and research ethics: non-maleficence, beneficence, justice, and the right to self-determination.
This is an area that will have to evolve as new techniques emerge. “As the science of mind control advances, it will be important to clarify acceptable control practices with respect to our fundamental nature and self-identity,” say Medaglia and co.
Another thought-provoking goal is to understand the link between neural control and psychological control. “The mapping between brain dynamics and specific cognitive processes will be critical to inform psychological (i.e., ‘mind’) control,” say Medaglia and co.
And therein lies a significant blind spot in this work—the role of information. The processes of the mind are clearly information-based. And much of psychology has focused on how information can change brain states. For example, changing a person’s emotional state with a trip to the cinema or by reading a book.
This is information-based mind control. And yet Medaglia and co do not mention these kinds of information-based effects.
Perhaps that is understandable. The role of information in brain processes is poorly understood. Neurologists do not even understand the neural codes at work in our brains."
Just how this can be done isn’t entirely clear, but there are several technologies that have potential. These include transcranial magnetic stimulation, which uses an external magnetic field to induce currents in parts of the brain, along with various implanted stimulators, which inject energy directly. Improving the resolution of this kind of energy injection is an important future goal.
No discussion of brain control would be complete without a mention of ethics. Medaglia and co spend some time outlining current thinking on this topic. They base their discussion on the four basic principles of medical and research ethics: non-maleficence, beneficence, justice, and the right to self-determination.
This is an area that will have to evolve as new techniques emerge. “As the science of mind control advances, it will be important to clarify acceptable control practices with respect to our fundamental nature and self-identity,” say Medaglia and co.
Another thought-provoking goal is to understand the link between neural control and psychological control. “The mapping between brain dynamics and specific cognitive processes will be critical to inform psychological (i.e., ‘mind’) control,” say Medaglia and co.
And therein lies a significant blind spot in this work—the role of information. The processes of the mind are clearly information-based. And much of psychology has focused on how information can change brain states. For example, changing a person’s emotional state with a trip to the cinema or by reading a book.
This is information-based mind control. And yet Medaglia and co do not mention these kinds of information-based effects.
Perhaps that is understandable. The role of information in brain processes is poorly understood. Neurologists do not even understand the neural codes at work in our brains."
20 October 2016 11:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Today we get an answer of sorts, thanks to the work of John Medaglia at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia and a few pals who assess the discipline that is emerging at the intersection between network neuroscience and network control theory. “A critical question … is how to modulate a human brain network to treat cognitive deficits or enhance mental abilities,” they say. “We posit that network control fundamentally relates to mind control.”
The basic idea behind this kind of control is straightforward. Injecting energy into one part of a network should influence activity in other parts of the network.
In the brain, this kind of manipulation is already used in deep brain stimulation techniques, such as those used to Parkinson’s disease. This involves injecting energy into a part of the brain called the basal ganglia, which is involved in movement. This then reduces impairment of movement.
A similar technique is also used for obsessive compulsive disorder, where people experience overwhelming urges to engage in repetitive behavior. This is often associated with unusual electrical activity in the brain’s fronto-striatal circuitry. Deep brain stimulation can normalize this activity and substantially improve quality of life.
Despite the success of these kinds of techniques, Medaglia and co point out that there are significant challenges in controlling other behaviors. One problem is that stimulation does not just influence one part of the brain but tends to cascade across many areas in ways that are hard to characterize.
That’s why understanding the connectivity across the brain is an important future goal. This is the objective of the various “connectome” projects around the world: to map of the structural pathways across the brain.
And it is already beginning to suggest that the brain employs different control strategies. Each of these strategies are potential targets for mind control."
The basic idea behind this kind of control is straightforward. Injecting energy into one part of a network should influence activity in other parts of the network.
In the brain, this kind of manipulation is already used in deep brain stimulation techniques, such as those used to Parkinson’s disease. This involves injecting energy into a part of the brain called the basal ganglia, which is involved in movement. This then reduces impairment of movement.
A similar technique is also used for obsessive compulsive disorder, where people experience overwhelming urges to engage in repetitive behavior. This is often associated with unusual electrical activity in the brain’s fronto-striatal circuitry. Deep brain stimulation can normalize this activity and substantially improve quality of life.
Despite the success of these kinds of techniques, Medaglia and co point out that there are significant challenges in controlling other behaviors. One problem is that stimulation does not just influence one part of the brain but tends to cascade across many areas in ways that are hard to characterize.
That’s why understanding the connectivity across the brain is an important future goal. This is the objective of the various “connectome” projects around the world: to map of the structural pathways across the brain.
And it is already beginning to suggest that the brain employs different control strategies. Each of these strategies are potential targets for mind control."
20 October 2016 11:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Complex networks form the backbone of modern society: the Internet, the aviation network, the pattern of connections between individuals. And more complex examples are constantly emerging—the way genes interact in cells, how information flows through the banking system and the ecosystem.
The more complex the system, the harder it is to control. Nevertheless, computer scientists, doctors, economists and the like exercise a modicum of control over many of these networks.
And that raises an interesting question: is it possible to exercise the same kind of control over the most complex network we know of: the human brain?!"
The more complex the system, the harder it is to control. Nevertheless, computer scientists, doctors, economists and the like exercise a modicum of control over many of these networks.
And that raises an interesting question: is it possible to exercise the same kind of control over the most complex network we know of: the human brain?!"
20 October 2016 11:41
Margus Meigo replied to Gert Klaaser's comment.
jaa, tegelikult ega see kõige ideaalsem idee pole, osadesse kohtadesse kust üleliigne koos värviga maha tuli näiteks, kuna kaitsekleepsu jätsin panematta suurest asardist, arvates, et ta mujale liialt ei kleepu
20 October 2016 10:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Venemaa ja Ameerika armulaul: KARL-ERIK TAUKAR - Segased lood
--
Me vahel sõda- sa ida, ma lääs; sa tuli, ma jää.
Ja sellel lahingul ma lõppu ei näe, ei näe…
Jääb mulle see arm, mis meenutab sind.
Sa põgened kiirelt, kui poleks armastand mind.
Ses lõputus kaoses üks kadunud hing… igatseb sind.
Refr.
Vahel tundub veider, kuid su mõttest aru saan.
Vahel jälle meile kõik on tundmatu maa.
Sest et me vahel, ja mõlemal pool, on segased lood- on segased lood.
Su lemmikrelvaks hästi valitud laused, kus valed on ausad.
Ja viimast rünnakut ma ootama jään, ja jään… mmmm…
Jääb sulle see arm, mis meenutab mind.
Ma põgenen kiirelt, sest liialt armastan sind.
Ses lõputus kaoses üks kadunud hing… igatseb sind.
Refr.
Vahel tundub veider, kuid su mõttest aru saan.
Vahel jälle meile kõik on tundmatu maa.
Sest et me vahel, ja mõlemal pool, on segased lood- on segased lood.
Tunnete peeglis ei takista meid
lepitud reeglid, nii rikume neid,.
Kui igatsust toita, end valu eest peita,
nii kunagi leida, me rahu ei saa.
Refr.
Vahel tundub veider, kuid su mõttest aru saan.
Vahel jälle meile kõik on tundmatu maa.
Sest et me vahel, ja mõlemal pool, on segased lood- on segased lood.
--
Me vahel sõda- sa ida, ma lääs; sa tuli, ma jää.
Ja sellel lahingul ma lõppu ei näe, ei näe…
Jääb mulle see arm, mis meenutab sind.
Sa põgened kiirelt, kui poleks armastand mind.
Ses lõputus kaoses üks kadunud hing… igatseb sind.
Refr.
Vahel tundub veider, kuid su mõttest aru saan.
Vahel jälle meile kõik on tundmatu maa.
Sest et me vahel, ja mõlemal pool, on segased lood- on segased lood.
Su lemmikrelvaks hästi valitud laused, kus valed on ausad.
Ja viimast rünnakut ma ootama jään, ja jään… mmmm…
Jääb sulle see arm, mis meenutab mind.
Ma põgenen kiirelt, sest liialt armastan sind.
Ses lõputus kaoses üks kadunud hing… igatseb sind.
Refr.
Vahel tundub veider, kuid su mõttest aru saan.
Vahel jälle meile kõik on tundmatu maa.
Sest et me vahel, ja mõlemal pool, on segased lood- on segased lood.
Tunnete peeglis ei takista meid
lepitud reeglid, nii rikume neid,.
Kui igatsust toita, end valu eest peita,
nii kunagi leida, me rahu ei saa.
Refr.
Vahel tundub veider, kuid su mõttest aru saan.
Vahel jälle meile kõik on tundmatu maa.
Sest et me vahel, ja mõlemal pool, on segased lood- on segased lood.
20 October 2016 07:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_heifer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_heifer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_heifer
20 October 2016 07:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Mõista, Mõista kas seinal oli midagi, niiskust, varju või muud, või ei.
i mean, only these ones, are main ones, where is description, (kirjeldusega on põhilised)
Rest is filler, (ülejäänu täiteks).
Mõlema toa lühtrid on ühe hõõglambiga
i mean, only these ones, are main ones, where is description, (kirjeldusega on põhilised)
Rest is filler, (ülejäänu täiteks).
Mõlema toa lühtrid on ühe hõõglambiga
20 October 2016 07:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Fun fact: In German, the man and women are separate being.s
Proovi seda võrdõifglusLastele selgeks teha, või segadust mis sakslaste peas on kui nad oma teemat ajavad Norra-Soome ümber lõigatud sõpradest kuulujutte kuuldes, et nagu mees ja nais töökohad oleks sama nimetusega jms.
Proovi seda võrdõifglusLastele selgeks teha, või segadust mis sakslaste peas on kui nad oma teemat ajavad Norra-Soome ümber lõigatud sõpradest kuulujutte kuuldes, et nagu mees ja nais töökohad oleks sama nimetusega jms.
20 October 2016 06:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Well.. if am only would have proper camera .. have to do with old gifted phone for now,
good that am even got that
good that am even got that
20 October 2016 04:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Üldiselt, need asjad takistavad ka selliseid teadmisi lastes:
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4RPrXTC9n84&h=XAQHb_Auy
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4RPrXTC9n84&h=XAQHb_Auy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RPrXTC9n84
20 October 2016 04:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
not picking on scientists in here, but on the systematic structure that is imprisoning their mind and methods of thinking, feeling, seeing
dreaming also
dreaming also
20 October 2016 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
. and the Clowd, is dangerous no doubt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9YPYRaeTW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9YPYRaeTW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9YPYRaeTW0
20 October 2016 03:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This battle is not about Democrats vs Republicans or other fictional blurred borders, it is Patriarchy vs Matriarchy,
first time in modern history , so plain, so large... before like that was on the edge of Matriarchy fall, on after Aztec times.. Near Your land,
this is battle that is given to hand so plain, so simple, so large. ..
And Trump IS playing hes part ALL the way proper,
just remember, he does play hes part as he must, to represent this side as it is, the failed Greek-Roman Patriarchy side, but be thankful for a God to put him as Your opponent, ... as someone else, would not be known to be who they are and what kind of life culture they represent.
The point is, not to feel crude against him, as He is YOUR Trump'h for our species victory ,the thicket,
Will give him a proper dosage of spiritual medicine also so he can come out and open about all the other plans people he knows are doing, as he got access to all kind of dark places as he is trusted by many for appearing to be not the good king,
but as he say he is religious, then God has right to use him for proper., .. this is how bad will be eliminated, by inside mans...
But fight stil comes large and bigger then ordinary life, as all who depend on hes side (and there is MANY who ... for who last thing they wanna see, is to give Matriarchy a hope..) them will try to do a lot.. make sure to stay alive and not go over a border .. instead of attacking Trump directly, attack ones manhood and more then this, the culture and life group s who is related to these kind of things, that Donald has been sleeping with (so to say)
what ques gives he's way of talk and life about what kind of thinking's there is in these savages head, who write supportive comments on videos like that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Rr7CO59HY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSC8Q-kR44o
first time in modern history , so plain, so large... before like that was on the edge of Matriarchy fall, on after Aztec times.. Near Your land,
this is battle that is given to hand so plain, so simple, so large. ..
And Trump IS playing hes part ALL the way proper,
just remember, he does play hes part as he must, to represent this side as it is, the failed Greek-Roman Patriarchy side, but be thankful for a God to put him as Your opponent, ... as someone else, would not be known to be who they are and what kind of life culture they represent.
The point is, not to feel crude against him, as He is YOUR Trump'h for our species victory ,the thicket,
Will give him a proper dosage of spiritual medicine also so he can come out and open about all the other plans people he knows are doing, as he got access to all kind of dark places as he is trusted by many for appearing to be not the good king,
but as he say he is religious, then God has right to use him for proper., .. this is how bad will be eliminated, by inside mans...
But fight stil comes large and bigger then ordinary life, as all who depend on hes side (and there is MANY who ... for who last thing they wanna see, is to give Matriarchy a hope..) them will try to do a lot.. make sure to stay alive and not go over a border .. instead of attacking Trump directly, attack ones manhood and more then this, the culture and life group s who is related to these kind of things, that Donald has been sleeping with (so to say)
what ques gives he's way of talk and life about what kind of thinking's there is in these savages head, who write supportive comments on videos like that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Rr7CO59HY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSC8Q-kR44o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Rr7CO59HY
20 October 2016 03:41
Margus Meigo replied to Adriana Iv's comment.
well.. manda-rines also burn... when you peal them near the fire..
20 October 2016 03:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
In other hand, criminal connections are good if You do that for chaining criminals to better humans,
to learn and calm them down, direct to safer road.
or just communicating on human level
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/19/the-drug-trafficker-donald-trump-risked-his-casino-empire-to-protect.html
to learn and calm them down, direct to safer road.
or just communicating on human level
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/19/the-drug-trafficker-donald-trump-risked-his-casino-empire-to-protect.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/19/the-drug-trafficker-donald-trump-risked-his-casino-empire-to-protect.html
20 October 2016 03:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and mention basic also, as
"Trump is well known for projecting—taking things that apply to himself and saying that they apply to others."
Besides online list, of ones faults and facts, gossip and investigations,
with addition to fact lies and possible lies, and changes of mind, on video one on one and documents proofs in as original footage as possible . and make it viral with memes,
just make sure not to use any silly random ad banners there !
Must be serious one! We can pay for it, as this is needed , and not just for one kind, this will open up a branch and will be linked with rest of practical systems, am can talk longer and longer..
https://www.facebook.com/allan.berger.98/posts/10153801437617273?notif_t=notify_me¬if_id=1476920989541961
"Trump is well known for projecting—taking things that apply to himself and saying that they apply to others."
Besides online list, of ones faults and facts, gossip and investigations,
with addition to fact lies and possible lies, and changes of mind, on video one on one and documents proofs in as original footage as possible . and make it viral with memes,
just make sure not to use any silly random ad banners there !
Must be serious one! We can pay for it, as this is needed , and not just for one kind, this will open up a branch and will be linked with rest of practical systems, am can talk longer and longer..
https://www.facebook.com/allan.berger.98/posts/10153801437617273?notif_t=notify_me¬if_id=1476920989541961
20 October 2016 03:01
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
This is common communist-liberal tactic:
""Trump is well known for projecting—taking things that apply to himself and saying that they apply to others.""
(for Estonian's liberals are new communist,s Roman-Greek empire project, who have seats on Right and Left side... by that scale, the Clinton for sure is not in liberal or other side of red line, red as this man tie.. ... i have strongly looked in to their tactics, and does not matter for them what side they pretend to be mafia, politician, right or left, or anarchist, look about what and how they speak, and how they handle personal crisis-attacks ,to see if this person is on robots, star-people, communists... or on humans-woman.nature side)
""Trump is well known for projecting—taking things that apply to himself and saying that they apply to others.""
(for Estonian's liberals are new communist,s Roman-Greek empire project, who have seats on Right and Left side... by that scale, the Clinton for sure is not in liberal or other side of red line, red as this man tie.. ... i have strongly looked in to their tactics, and does not matter for them what side they pretend to be mafia, politician, right or left, or anarchist, look about what and how they speak, and how they handle personal crisis-attacks ,to see if this person is on robots, star-people, communists... or on humans-woman.nature side)
20 October 2016 02:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
seriast: remont rahata, enamvähem
20 October 2016 01:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Okey, tegelik point oli see jagada:
Kuidas ma täitevahu avastasinb ja üli vaimustuses sellest, käisin mööda maja ringi otsimas kas veel kohtasi on mida saab täita, nüüd kõi ktäidetud, vaene hiir, tema auk ka..
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209793014758813&set=a.10209792964317552.1073741866.1135161043&type=3&theater
Kuidas ma täitevahu avastasinb ja üli vaimustuses sellest, käisin mööda maja ringi otsimas kas veel kohtasi on mida saab täita, nüüd kõi ktäidetud, vaene hiir, tema auk ka..
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209793014758813&set=a.10209792964317552.1073741866.1135161043&type=3&theater
20 October 2016 01:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZivP6NbVdRo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZivP6NbVdRo
20 October 2016 01:13
Margus Meigo replied to Adriana Iv's comment.
and that just... small sample You know..
Actually my father also calls margarine's, as this what is made of nafta... have to look in to this..
Actually my father also calls margarine's, as this what is made of nafta... have to look in to this..
19 October 2016 14:37
Margus Meigo replied to Esta Rahno's comment.
aga tegelikult pole vaja igat asja väiskes koguses arvtavasti kindlasti kohe
19 October 2016 14:35
Margus Meigo replied to Esta Rahno's comment.
aga ehk need videod om MMi vastased konkurentide poolt tehtud.. et eks uurime seda ka veel enne kuid ja, ega meeldiv kuulda selliseid asju ple.
Muidugi ratsionaalne keel inimestel selgitab kogu loo ,et "ah väikses koguses igast asja vaja"
Muidugi ratsionaalne keel inimestel selgitab kogu loo ,et "ah väikses koguses igast asja vaja"
19 October 2016 14:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejorQVy3m8E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejorQVy3m8E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejorQVy3m8E
19 October 2016 14:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
OMy.me,
its seems as many posts here was not importantly needed to put in to here.
its seems as many posts here was not importantly needed to put in to here.
19 October 2016 05:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
dealing with ufo thing ppl have to be various way sure, it is you, not even philosophically chipped (in Estnian: "kiiped) or clonded, besides ordinary mafia wars, family threats, Chemeron threat or many other random and presistent skilled threat makers., () or other tricks our One might be victim of, or not, .
So like after "water"made up issue, where it looks as someone kidnaps You to card and who knows what group will be sure, something was changed .
So lets make sure is same
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I got ideas of many ways of to make this info managing strukture good, of "what is vaja (needed)
So like after "water"made up issue, where it looks as someone kidnaps You to card and who knows what group will be sure, something was changed .
So lets make sure is same
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I got ideas of many ways of to make this info managing strukture good, of "what is vaja (needed)
19 October 2016 05:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(as aaairforce1)
19 October 2016 05:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
right now half-engaged in job i am present basically 24/7 1-2 years,
kindof needed for many reasons but does not buy a jet,
kindof needed for many reasons but does not buy a jet,
19 October 2016 05:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
laulud polnud momendil infoliselt olulisesd, tähtsaid vaid kui siis valimiskampaaniategemiseks aab eri meeme ja asju teha kuoos töötavate programmidega osad
19 October 2016 05:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
after bird, seccond kaander
https://youtu.be/XjwZAa2EjKA?t=107
https://youtu.be/XjwZAa2EjKA?t=107
19 October 2016 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
samalajal: The Cure
Friday I'm In Love
Friday I'm In Love
18 October 2016 23:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i think legend of tom will live forever
in ur heart, the tree, he song about it mirroring you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCDIt50hRDs
in ur heart, the tree, he song about it mirroring you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCDIt50hRDs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCDIt50hRDs
18 October 2016 23:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Are You a Cristjan Child,
just one question
... then if yes we 2 know, another one is then rather not?
So if to compare who might be more.. knowing how littlew u are outside, is t a world better then Mr. T Christianic actions what he talked about crabbing by the Pussy video (ant is hard case also asi that does work som for lack of love some, ewbven hes own wife's keeping him up)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK5YGWS5H84&list=RDKK5YGWS5H84
just one question
... then if yes we 2 know, another one is then rather not?
So if to compare who might be more.. knowing how littlew u are outside, is t a world better then Mr. T Christianic actions what he talked about crabbing by the Pussy video (ant is hard case also asi that does work som for lack of love some, ewbven hes own wife's keeping him up)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK5YGWS5H84&list=RDKK5YGWS5H84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK5YGWS5H84&list=RDKK5YGWS5H84
18 October 2016 23:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(npoyt That song)
18 October 2016 23:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And when lost Hill, RetroFM ore Estonia Klassics radio will help you to get on bike again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5BkCGZwLsA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5BkCGZwLsA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5BkCGZwLsA
18 October 2016 23:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but not eveolve in to that conciosness direction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwtdhWltSIg&list=PLR0SxIFAY4pqSYWADK2ELLISpig5NWepf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwtdhWltSIg&list=PLR0SxIFAY4pqSYWADK2ELLISpig5NWepf
18 October 2016 23:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thought of Scooter at first,
so see who can also tap into this sound, wold be fail to miss the bridge here, (to make movement, more in one way, - : better)
so see who can also tap into this sound, wold be fail to miss the bridge here, (to make movement, more in one way, - : better)
18 October 2016 23:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and womenbs are left to wonder Do they rewally feel the way the feeling is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2DFu7oWit0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2DFu7oWit0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2DFu7oWit0
18 October 2016 23:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i think also, Donald
sings to every wictamised women Singer Vinger
Kodusõda
sings to every wictamised women Singer Vinger
Kodusõda
18 October 2016 23:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
How many times have you woken up
And prayed for the rain?
How many times have you seen
The papers apportion the blame?
Who gets to say?
Who gets the work and who gets to play?
I was always told at school
Everybody should get the same
How many times have you been told
If you don't ask you don't get?
How many liars have taken your money
Your mother said you shouldn't bet?
Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
Someone must have told him
If you work too hard you can sweat
There's always the sun
There's always the sun
Always, always, always the sun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSG4ONpSnqk&list=RDmSG4ONpSnqk#t=150
And prayed for the rain?
How many times have you seen
The papers apportion the blame?
Who gets to say?
Who gets the work and who gets to play?
I was always told at school
Everybody should get the same
How many times have you been told
If you don't ask you don't get?
How many liars have taken your money
Your mother said you shouldn't bet?
Who has the fun?
Is it always the man with the gun?
Someone must have told him
If you work too hard you can sweat
There's always the sun
There's always the sun
Always, always, always the sun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSG4ONpSnqk&list=RDmSG4ONpSnqk#t=150
18 October 2016 22:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
...
18 October 2016 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
To Hil tuiun:
The Stranglers
Always The Sun
The Stranglers
Always The Sun
18 October 2016 22:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aruvtis selle pärast hea kuiulata, et saad aeglasemaks ja reaalsemaks helisi muuta
18 October 2016 22:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Neeh, not fitting,
wrong song, i think now,
Next time better luck
wrong song, i think now,
Next time better luck
18 October 2016 22:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#
Johnny's always running around
Trying to find certainty
He needs all the world to confirm
That he ain't lonely
Mary counts the walls
Knows he tires easily
Johnny thinks the world would be right
If it could buy truth from him
Mary says he changes his mind more than a woman
But she made her bed
Even when the chance was slim
Johnny says he's willing to learn
When he decides he's a fool
Johnny says he'll live anywhere
When he earns time to
Mary combs her hair
Says she should be used to it
Mary always hedges her bets
She never knows what to think
She says that he still acts
Like he is being discovered
Scared that he'll be caught
Without a second thought
Running around
Johnny's always running around
Trying to find certainty
He needs all the world to confirm
That he ain't lonely
Mary counts the walls
Knows he tires easily
Johnny thinks the world would be right
If it could buy truth from him
Mary says he changes his mind more than a woman
But she made her bed
Even when the chance was slim
Johnny says he's willing to learn
When he decides he's a fool
Johnny says he'll live anywhere
When he earns time to
Mary combs her hair
Says she should be used to it
Mary always hedges her bets
She never knows what to think
She says that he still acts
Like he is being discovered
Scared that he'll be caught
Without a second thought
Running around
18 October 2016 22:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(see laul sobib sinna eelmise postituse alla)
18 October 2016 21:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Jadada seda postiyust,
Korraliku Saksa keele sees esitletud , selle osa kirjeldus
Korraliku Saksa keele sees esitletud , selle osa kirjeldus
18 October 2016 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Widerfahrnis , experience !
18 October 2016 20:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sellest järgmisel
18 October 2016 20:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
18 October 2016 20:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
--------------------- -------------- So turning tihis [Greek-Roma Education, upside down, for excuse me] ...
18 October 2016 20:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
actualy i had inmportant to tell as well,
for example:
Zirinocvzki thretened personally is fake or real ?
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for example:
Zirinocvzki thretened personally is fake or real ?
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18 October 2016 20:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
actualy i had inmportant to tell as well,
foi
foi
18 October 2016 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on Rasmus Sillamaa's post.
Group: Ettevõtlikud noored
Õnneks vaatamata puudulikele ainete me menüüs, ei ole keegi nii hullunud, et arvaks, et hetkel ainete käsitlemine ühiskonnas adekvaatne on17 October 2016 20:57
Margus Meigo replied to Sakunne Svensson's comment.
...Ja siis jääb palju muud tegemata
17 October 2016 20:55
Margus Meigo replied to Sakunne Svensson's comment.
üksi neid kampaaiaid igas mastaabis ei saaa pikalt teha, muidu viiakse ära
17 October 2016 20:55
Margus Meigo replied to Sakunne Svensson's comment.
korasin tartus ise letipealt terve reklaami partii ära, viisin infoletti, et nad selle jama lõpetaks... üks sääsk ei tee midagi, kuid muutus toimubks 100&% kui rahavas seda ise sooviks ja selle järgi käituma hakkaks kodineeritulty
17 October 2016 20:55
Margus Meigo replied to Sakunne Svensson's comment.
aga poes suht seaduslikult veel palju hullemat müügil, 1/3 alkoholi ja magusa letist mis poodi hõlmab ja kohustulsikud suitsupakid mis näkku vahviad kui arveid maksame... neist ei hakka rääkimagi
17 October 2016 20:54
Margus Meigo commented on Maris Pihelgas's photo.
Pilt on ju seotud prantsusmaaga.. peaks seda siin pigem kommenteerima..
16 October 2016 17:48
Margus Meigo commented on Maris Pihelgas's photo.
Oot, mis .. kas see ussi nahk Sul sääl ?
16 October 2016 17:47
Margus Meigo replied to Brendan Sulisevvann's comment.
üle 5..vb 7 a tagasi tuli teade loojalt, et pean Estonian Airile teada andma, et nad taolise asjaga tegelema hakkaks, kuid ... jägi..
16 October 2016 05:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
http://biblehub.com/topical/s/simon.htm
http://biblehub.com/topical/s/simon.htm
http://biblehub.com/topical/s/simon.htm
16 October 2016 05:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tema ka üks tore laps, kes teab rääkida palju nii mõndagi, mida kuulamapeaksime korraks reaalse mõttega, arvestades, et to telekat väga palju eriti ei vaata..:
"Anname aga ufadele seeni ja teeme nad inimeseks, et nad ei hakkaks pätiks"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RPrXTC9n84
"Anname aga ufadele seeni ja teeme nad inimeseks, et nad ei hakkaks pätiks"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RPrXTC9n84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RPrXTC9n84
16 October 2016 05:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ainult sõnadega saan veel vaid maalida me maailmasi ja kätega õrnusi Su kehale
16 October 2016 04:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Aga ma ei oska ju Joonistada!
kuigi mul öeldud Kuntsnik
- Villem, Kädvalt
Aga ma ei oska ju Joonistada!
kuigi mul öeldud Kuntsnik
- Villem, Kädvalt
16 October 2016 04:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Ma tean, et isegi peas mõelda ei tohi ega või, muud kui seda mis lubatud nii Su armastatu kui Jumala ema meeltes, kuid kuidas me ümber sünnivad nagu seeni peale vihma neid kes kõike ebasünnist ka täide viivad jättes põsed kannatutel soolasemaks kui merevesi
Ma tean, et isegi peas mõelda ei tohi ega või, muud kui seda mis lubatud nii Su armastatu kui Jumala ema meeltes, kuid kuidas me ümber sünnivad nagu seeni peale vihma neid kes kõike ebasünnist ka täide viivad jättes põsed kannatutel soolasemaks kui merevesi
16 October 2016 04:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
He was born on American soil.
King Bhumibol was born on December 5, 1927 in Cambridge, Massachusetts, while his father studied medicine at Harvard. The family returned to Thailand when Bhumibol was around 2 years old, but after his father’s death, Bhumibol’s mother took him, his older brother Ananda and sister Galyani to live in Lausanne, Switzerland.
He was a talented musician.
During his time in Lausanne, Bhumibol learned several languages, including French, German and English. He also developed an appreciation for the arts, with interests in photography and music. He began playing the piano, clarinet and saxophone.
His brother had a mysterious death.
As a child, Bhumibol’s uncle, Prajadhipok, was king. But a revolution in 1932 stripped King Prajadhipok of most of his powers and he abdicated in 1935. The crown then went to Bhumibol’s older brother, Ananda Mahidol. But in 1946, Ananda was found shot dead in his bedroom in Bangkok’s Grand Palace, which resulted in Bhumibol becoming king at 18 years old. The circumstances of his brother’s death have never been fully explained.
He had a desire for higher education.
After mourning his brother’s death and assuming the role of king, Bhumibol made the bold decision to return to Switzerland to continue his studies, switching from science to political science and law at the University of Lausanne. “I have to leave this capital and leave you because it is essential that I re-create myself,” he said in a radio address before his departure.
He found his queen in Switzerland.
While in Switzerland, Bhumibol’s met Sirikit Kitiyakara, the daughter of the Thai ambassador to France. The couple married in Bangkok a week before his coronation on May 5, 1950. They went on to have three daughters and a son.
He supported a war on drugs.
Bhumibol’s reign was not without controversy. In 2003, he supported a war on drugs, which led to the deaths of 2000 suspects. Human rights groups attacked the campaign for its state-sanctioned violence and called for a UN investigation.
http://people.com/royals/thailand-king-bhumibols-thing-to-know/
King Bhumibol was born on December 5, 1927 in Cambridge, Massachusetts, while his father studied medicine at Harvard. The family returned to Thailand when Bhumibol was around 2 years old, but after his father’s death, Bhumibol’s mother took him, his older brother Ananda and sister Galyani to live in Lausanne, Switzerland.
He was a talented musician.
During his time in Lausanne, Bhumibol learned several languages, including French, German and English. He also developed an appreciation for the arts, with interests in photography and music. He began playing the piano, clarinet and saxophone.
His brother had a mysterious death.
As a child, Bhumibol’s uncle, Prajadhipok, was king. But a revolution in 1932 stripped King Prajadhipok of most of his powers and he abdicated in 1935. The crown then went to Bhumibol’s older brother, Ananda Mahidol. But in 1946, Ananda was found shot dead in his bedroom in Bangkok’s Grand Palace, which resulted in Bhumibol becoming king at 18 years old. The circumstances of his brother’s death have never been fully explained.
He had a desire for higher education.
After mourning his brother’s death and assuming the role of king, Bhumibol made the bold decision to return to Switzerland to continue his studies, switching from science to political science and law at the University of Lausanne. “I have to leave this capital and leave you because it is essential that I re-create myself,” he said in a radio address before his departure.
He found his queen in Switzerland.
While in Switzerland, Bhumibol’s met Sirikit Kitiyakara, the daughter of the Thai ambassador to France. The couple married in Bangkok a week before his coronation on May 5, 1950. They went on to have three daughters and a son.
He supported a war on drugs.
Bhumibol’s reign was not without controversy. In 2003, he supported a war on drugs, which led to the deaths of 2000 suspects. Human rights groups attacked the campaign for its state-sanctioned violence and called for a UN investigation.
http://people.com/royals/thailand-king-bhumibols-thing-to-know/
15 October 2016 22:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Well, if head of CIA has been in to Christian Science.. i can trust that a bit more
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And the power of the mind to influence how a person interprets the world -- "It is done unto you as you believe."
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Religious Science is different from Scientology and Christian Science, said Pastor Patt Perkins of the Claremont Church of Religious Science.
"I believe that Scientology has got a pretty bad reputation," Perkins said. "We don't want to be identified with that because that's not who we are."
Orthodox Christian Scientists, she said, "don't believe in physicians and we do believe that God works through physicians and medication."
Christian Science and Religious Science both grew out of the New Thought Movement in the second half of the 19th century, which stressed that sin and disease are matters of incorrect thinking. But they went in different directions, with Christian Science's strong adherence to the belief in the crucifixion, resurrection and divinity of Christ and Religious Science stressing "affirmative prayer" to draw on the infinite power of God.
Other Religious Science churches have changed their names for similar reasons, Perkins said. In fact, officials of the denomination, whose headquarters is in Los Angeles, are talking about changing the denomination's name, Graff said.
"The question has come up but it's still being talked about," said Annie Glasgow of the United Church of Religious Science in Los Angeles.
Glasgow said that while the name Religious Science still has to be in each church's bylaws, Religious Science churches are changing their names to "become more modern," Glasgow said. "If you stay with one name, one way of doing things and you don't modernize, you don't speak to the new generation. You can't hope to capture them."
If the Claremont church changes its name, it will be the church's fourth in 53 years. Suggested names include: Learning Center for Spiritual Growth; Church of Serenity; Spirit, Mind and Body Institute; or Claremont Community Church of Wisdom.
"In no way are we leaving religious science but simply to make a different name that might make it easier for folks to remember," Perkins said.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Thought_writers
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And the power of the mind to influence how a person interprets the world -- "It is done unto you as you believe."
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Religious Science is different from Scientology and Christian Science, said Pastor Patt Perkins of the Claremont Church of Religious Science.
"I believe that Scientology has got a pretty bad reputation," Perkins said. "We don't want to be identified with that because that's not who we are."
Orthodox Christian Scientists, she said, "don't believe in physicians and we do believe that God works through physicians and medication."
Christian Science and Religious Science both grew out of the New Thought Movement in the second half of the 19th century, which stressed that sin and disease are matters of incorrect thinking. But they went in different directions, with Christian Science's strong adherence to the belief in the crucifixion, resurrection and divinity of Christ and Religious Science stressing "affirmative prayer" to draw on the infinite power of God.
Other Religious Science churches have changed their names for similar reasons, Perkins said. In fact, officials of the denomination, whose headquarters is in Los Angeles, are talking about changing the denomination's name, Graff said.
"The question has come up but it's still being talked about," said Annie Glasgow of the United Church of Religious Science in Los Angeles.
Glasgow said that while the name Religious Science still has to be in each church's bylaws, Religious Science churches are changing their names to "become more modern," Glasgow said. "If you stay with one name, one way of doing things and you don't modernize, you don't speak to the new generation. You can't hope to capture them."
If the Claremont church changes its name, it will be the church's fourth in 53 years. Suggested names include: Learning Center for Spiritual Growth; Church of Serenity; Spirit, Mind and Body Institute; or Claremont Community Church of Wisdom.
"In no way are we leaving religious science but simply to make a different name that might make it easier for folks to remember," Perkins said.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Thought_writers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Thought_writers
15 October 2016 03:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nona Lovell Brooks (March 22, 1861 – March 14, 1945), described as a "prophet of modern mystical Christianity",[1] was a leader in the New Thought movement and a founder of the Church of Divine Science.
After World War I Brooks succeeded her sister Fannie James as head of the college and in 1922 Brooks aligned the growing Church of Divine Science with the International New Thought Alliance.
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Brooks was the author of:
Mysteries (1924)
The Prayer that Never Fails
Short Lessons in Divine Science
What is Real and What Illusion?
The Training of Children: Based upon the Practical Principles of Life
Studies of Health
The Kingdom of Law.
Several of her sermons were collected in Into the Light of Healing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nona_L._Brooks
After World War I Brooks succeeded her sister Fannie James as head of the college and in 1922 Brooks aligned the growing Church of Divine Science with the International New Thought Alliance.
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Brooks was the author of:
Mysteries (1924)
The Prayer that Never Fails
Short Lessons in Divine Science
What is Real and What Illusion?
The Training of Children: Based upon the Practical Principles of Life
Studies of Health
The Kingdom of Law.
Several of her sermons were collected in Into the Light of Healing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nona_L._Brooks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nona_L._Brooks
15 October 2016 03:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_prayer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_prayer
15 October 2016 03:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efficacy_of_prayer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efficacy_of_prayer
15 October 2016 03:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Notable Scientists have included Directors of Central Intelligence William H. Webster and Admiral Stansfield M. Turner; Richard Nixon's chief of staff H. R. Haldeman; and Chief Domestic Advisor John Ehrlichman.[366] NASA astronaut Alan Shepard and the viscountess Nancy Astor were Christian Scientists, as was naval officer Charles Lightoller, who survived the sinking of the Titanic in 1912.[367]
There used to be a concentration of Scientists in the film industry, including Joan Crawford, Carol Channing, Doris Day, Cecil B. DeMille, Horton Foote, George Hamilton, Mary Pickford, Ginger Rogers, Mickey Rooney, Jean Stapleton and King Vidor.[368] Robert Duvall and Val Kilmer are Christian Scientists.[369]
Those raised by Christian Scientist parents include jurist Helmuth James Graf von Moltke, military analyst Daniel Ellsberg,[370] Ellen DeGeneres, Henry Fonda, Audrey Hepburn, Elizabeth Taylor and Robin Williams.[371] Actor Anne Archer was also raised within Christian Science. She left the church when her son, Tommy Davis, was a child, and both became prominent in the Church of Scientology
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The Christian Science Publishing Society publishes several periodicals, including the Christian Science Monitor, winner of seven Pulitzer Prizes between 1950 and 2002. This had a daily circulation in 1970 of 220,000, which by 2008 had contracted to 52,000. In 2009 it moved to a largely online presence with a weekly print run.[373] In the 1980s the church produced its own television programs, and in 1991 it founded a 24-hour news channel, which closed with heavy losses after 13 months
//saada kätte need lindid...
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The church faced internal dissent in 1991 over its decision to publish The Destiny of The Mother Church. Written and privately printed in 1943 by Bliss Knapp, former president of the Mother Church, the book suggested that Eddy was the Woman of the Apocalypse of the New Testament.[376] Knapp and his family bequeathed $98 million to the church on condition that it publish and authorize the book by 1993; otherwise the money would go to Stanford University and the Los Angeles County Museum of Art. The church published and made the book available in Christian Science reading rooms. One senior employee was fired for failing to support the church's decision, and 18 of the 21 editorial staff of the religious journals resigned. In the end the other parties disputed that making the book available in Reading Rooms constituted authorization, and the bequest was split three ways
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Works by Mary Baker Eddy[edit]
Science and Health (1875)
Christian Healing (1880)
The People's Idea of God: Its Effect on Health and Christianity (1883)
Historical Sketch of Metaphysical Healing (1885)
Defence of Christian Science (1885)
No and Yes (1887)
Rudiments and Rules of Divine Science (1887)
Unity of Good and Unreality of Evil (1888)
Retrospection and Introspection (1891)
Christ and Christmas (1893)
Rudimental Divine Science (1894)
Manual of the Mother Church (1895)
Pulpit and Press (1895)
Miscellaneous Writings, 1883–1896 (1897)
Christian Science versus Pantheism (1898)
The Christian Science Hymnal (1898)
Christian Healing and the People's Idea of God (1908)
Poems (1910)
The First Church of Christ, Scientist, and Miscellany (1913)
Prose Works (1925)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Destiny_of_The_Mother_Church
There used to be a concentration of Scientists in the film industry, including Joan Crawford, Carol Channing, Doris Day, Cecil B. DeMille, Horton Foote, George Hamilton, Mary Pickford, Ginger Rogers, Mickey Rooney, Jean Stapleton and King Vidor.[368] Robert Duvall and Val Kilmer are Christian Scientists.[369]
Those raised by Christian Scientist parents include jurist Helmuth James Graf von Moltke, military analyst Daniel Ellsberg,[370] Ellen DeGeneres, Henry Fonda, Audrey Hepburn, Elizabeth Taylor and Robin Williams.[371] Actor Anne Archer was also raised within Christian Science. She left the church when her son, Tommy Davis, was a child, and both became prominent in the Church of Scientology
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The Christian Science Publishing Society publishes several periodicals, including the Christian Science Monitor, winner of seven Pulitzer Prizes between 1950 and 2002. This had a daily circulation in 1970 of 220,000, which by 2008 had contracted to 52,000. In 2009 it moved to a largely online presence with a weekly print run.[373] In the 1980s the church produced its own television programs, and in 1991 it founded a 24-hour news channel, which closed with heavy losses after 13 months
//saada kätte need lindid...
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The church faced internal dissent in 1991 over its decision to publish The Destiny of The Mother Church. Written and privately printed in 1943 by Bliss Knapp, former president of the Mother Church, the book suggested that Eddy was the Woman of the Apocalypse of the New Testament.[376] Knapp and his family bequeathed $98 million to the church on condition that it publish and authorize the book by 1993; otherwise the money would go to Stanford University and the Los Angeles County Museum of Art. The church published and made the book available in Christian Science reading rooms. One senior employee was fired for failing to support the church's decision, and 18 of the 21 editorial staff of the religious journals resigned. In the end the other parties disputed that making the book available in Reading Rooms constituted authorization, and the bequest was split three ways
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Works by Mary Baker Eddy[edit]
Science and Health (1875)
Christian Healing (1880)
The People's Idea of God: Its Effect on Health and Christianity (1883)
Historical Sketch of Metaphysical Healing (1885)
Defence of Christian Science (1885)
No and Yes (1887)
Rudiments and Rules of Divine Science (1887)
Unity of Good and Unreality of Evil (1888)
Retrospection and Introspection (1891)
Christ and Christmas (1893)
Rudimental Divine Science (1894)
Manual of the Mother Church (1895)
Pulpit and Press (1895)
Miscellaneous Writings, 1883–1896 (1897)
Christian Science versus Pantheism (1898)
The Christian Science Hymnal (1898)
Christian Healing and the People's Idea of God (1908)
Poems (1910)
The First Church of Christ, Scientist, and Miscellany (1913)
Prose Works (1925)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Destiny_of_The_Mother_Church
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Destiny_of_The_Mother_Church
15 October 2016 03:39
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//this is the thought of liberal New Thought .. they forget to mention, that there is dark side also..
Several periods of Protestant Christian revival nurtured a proliferation of new religious movements in the United States.[14] In the latter half of the 19th century these included what came to be known as the metaphysical family: groups such as Christian Science, Divine Science, the Unity School of Christianity and (later) the United Church of Religious Science.[n 2] From the 1890s the liberal section of the movement became known as New Thought, in part to distinguish it from the more authoritarian Christian Science
The term metaphysical referred to the movement's philosophical idealism, a belief in the primacy of the mental world.[n 3] Adherents believed that material phenomena were the result of mental states, a view expressed as "life is consciousness" and "God is mind." The supreme cause was referred to as Divine Mind, Truth, God, Love, Life, Spirit, Principle or Father–Mother, reflecting elements of Plato, Hinduism, Berkeley, Hegel, Swedenborg and transcendentalism.
The metaphysical groups became known as the mind-cure movement because of their strong focus on healing.[24][n 4] Medical practice was in its infancy, and patients regularly fared better without it. This provided fertile soil for the mind-cure groups, who argued that sickness was an absence of "right thinking" or failure to connect to Divine Mind.[27] The movement traced its roots in the United States to Phineas Parkhurst Quimby (1802–1866), a New England clockmaker turned mental healer, whose motto was "the truth is the cure."[28][n 5] Mary Baker Eddy had been a patient of his, leading to debate about how much of Christian Science was based on his ideas.[30]
New Thought and Christian Science differed in that Eddy saw her views as a unique and final revelation.[31][n 6] Eddy's idea of malicious animal magnetism marked another distinction (that people can be harmed by the bad thoughts of others), introducing an element of fear that was absent from the New Thought literature
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Christian Science leaders place their religion within mainstream Christian teaching, according to J. Gordon Melton, and reject any identification with the New Thought movement.[n 8] Eddy was strongly influenced by her Congregationalist upbringing.[37] In founding the Church of Christ, Scientist, in April 1879, she wrote that she wanted it to "reinstate primitive Christianity and its lost element of healing.
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Because of its theism, Christian Science differs from the teachings of Quimby
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Christian Science theology differs in several respects from that of traditional Christianity. Eddy's Science and Health reinterprets key Christian concepts, including the Trinity, divinity of Jesus, atonement and resurrection; from the 1883 edition she included a glossary that redefined the Christian vocabulary, and added with a Key to the Scriptures to the title.[n 8] At the core of Eddy's theology is the view that the spiritual world is the only reality and is entirely good, and that the material world, with its evil, sickness and death, is an illusion. Eddy saw humanity as an "idea of Mind" that is "perfect, eternal, unlimited, and reflects the divine," according to Bryan Wilson; what she called "mortal man" is simply humanity's distorted view of itself.[45] Despite her view of the non-existence of evil, an important element of Christian Science theology is that evil thought, in the form of malicious animal magnetism, can cause harm, even if the harm is only apparent.[46]
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Eddy viewed God not as a person, but as "All-in-all." Although she often described God as if discussing personhood – she used the term "Father–Mother God" (as did Ann Lee, the founder of Shakerism), and in the third edition of Science and Health referred to God as "she" – God is mostly represented in Christian Science by the synonyms "Mind, Spirit, Soul, Principle, Life, Truth, Love."[47][n 10] The Holy Ghost is Christian Science, and heaven and hell are states of mind
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here is no supplication in Christian Science prayer. The process involves the Scientist engaging in a silent argument to affirm to herself the unreality of matter, something Christian Science practitioners will do for a fee, including in absentia, to address ill health or other problems.[51] Wilson writes that Christian Science healing is "not curative ... on its own premises, but rather preventative of ill health, accident and misfortune, since it claims to lead to a state of consciousness where these things do not exist. What heals is the realization that there is nothing really to heal."[52] It is a closed system of thought, viewed as infallible if performed correctly; healing confirms the power of Truth, but its absence derives from the failure, specifically the bad thoughts, of individuals
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The crucifixion was not a divine sacrifice for the sins of humanity, the atonement (the forgiveness of sin through Jesus's suffering) "not the bribing of God by offerings," writes Wilson, but an "at-one-ment" with God.[58]
Her views on life after death were vague and, according to Wilson, "there is no doctrine of the soul" in Christian Science: "[A]fter death, the individual continues his probationary state until he has worked out his own salvation by proving the truths of Christian Science."[59] Eddy did not believe that the dead and living could communicate
//but they talked on hes page, about how he communicated to borther and..
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ost significantly, she dismissed the material world as an illusion, rather than as merely subordinate to Mind, leading her to reject the use of medicine, or materia medica, and making Christian Science the most controversial of the metaphysical groups. Reality for Eddy was purely spiritual.
Several periods of Protestant Christian revival nurtured a proliferation of new religious movements in the United States.[14] In the latter half of the 19th century these included what came to be known as the metaphysical family: groups such as Christian Science, Divine Science, the Unity School of Christianity and (later) the United Church of Religious Science.[n 2] From the 1890s the liberal section of the movement became known as New Thought, in part to distinguish it from the more authoritarian Christian Science
The term metaphysical referred to the movement's philosophical idealism, a belief in the primacy of the mental world.[n 3] Adherents believed that material phenomena were the result of mental states, a view expressed as "life is consciousness" and "God is mind." The supreme cause was referred to as Divine Mind, Truth, God, Love, Life, Spirit, Principle or Father–Mother, reflecting elements of Plato, Hinduism, Berkeley, Hegel, Swedenborg and transcendentalism.
The metaphysical groups became known as the mind-cure movement because of their strong focus on healing.[24][n 4] Medical practice was in its infancy, and patients regularly fared better without it. This provided fertile soil for the mind-cure groups, who argued that sickness was an absence of "right thinking" or failure to connect to Divine Mind.[27] The movement traced its roots in the United States to Phineas Parkhurst Quimby (1802–1866), a New England clockmaker turned mental healer, whose motto was "the truth is the cure."[28][n 5] Mary Baker Eddy had been a patient of his, leading to debate about how much of Christian Science was based on his ideas.[30]
New Thought and Christian Science differed in that Eddy saw her views as a unique and final revelation.[31][n 6] Eddy's idea of malicious animal magnetism marked another distinction (that people can be harmed by the bad thoughts of others), introducing an element of fear that was absent from the New Thought literature
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Christian Science leaders place their religion within mainstream Christian teaching, according to J. Gordon Melton, and reject any identification with the New Thought movement.[n 8] Eddy was strongly influenced by her Congregationalist upbringing.[37] In founding the Church of Christ, Scientist, in April 1879, she wrote that she wanted it to "reinstate primitive Christianity and its lost element of healing.
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Because of its theism, Christian Science differs from the teachings of Quimby
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Christian Science theology differs in several respects from that of traditional Christianity. Eddy's Science and Health reinterprets key Christian concepts, including the Trinity, divinity of Jesus, atonement and resurrection; from the 1883 edition she included a glossary that redefined the Christian vocabulary, and added with a Key to the Scriptures to the title.[n 8] At the core of Eddy's theology is the view that the spiritual world is the only reality and is entirely good, and that the material world, with its evil, sickness and death, is an illusion. Eddy saw humanity as an "idea of Mind" that is "perfect, eternal, unlimited, and reflects the divine," according to Bryan Wilson; what she called "mortal man" is simply humanity's distorted view of itself.[45] Despite her view of the non-existence of evil, an important element of Christian Science theology is that evil thought, in the form of malicious animal magnetism, can cause harm, even if the harm is only apparent.[46]
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Eddy viewed God not as a person, but as "All-in-all." Although she often described God as if discussing personhood – she used the term "Father–Mother God" (as did Ann Lee, the founder of Shakerism), and in the third edition of Science and Health referred to God as "she" – God is mostly represented in Christian Science by the synonyms "Mind, Spirit, Soul, Principle, Life, Truth, Love."[47][n 10] The Holy Ghost is Christian Science, and heaven and hell are states of mind
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here is no supplication in Christian Science prayer. The process involves the Scientist engaging in a silent argument to affirm to herself the unreality of matter, something Christian Science practitioners will do for a fee, including in absentia, to address ill health or other problems.[51] Wilson writes that Christian Science healing is "not curative ... on its own premises, but rather preventative of ill health, accident and misfortune, since it claims to lead to a state of consciousness where these things do not exist. What heals is the realization that there is nothing really to heal."[52] It is a closed system of thought, viewed as infallible if performed correctly; healing confirms the power of Truth, but its absence derives from the failure, specifically the bad thoughts, of individuals
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The crucifixion was not a divine sacrifice for the sins of humanity, the atonement (the forgiveness of sin through Jesus's suffering) "not the bribing of God by offerings," writes Wilson, but an "at-one-ment" with God.[58]
Her views on life after death were vague and, according to Wilson, "there is no doctrine of the soul" in Christian Science: "[A]fter death, the individual continues his probationary state until he has worked out his own salvation by proving the truths of Christian Science."[59] Eddy did not believe that the dead and living could communicate
//but they talked on hes page, about how he communicated to borther and..
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ost significantly, she dismissed the material world as an illusion, rather than as merely subordinate to Mind, leading her to reject the use of medicine, or materia medica, and making Christian Science the most controversial of the metaphysical groups. Reality for Eddy was purely spiritual.
15 October 2016 03:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"sickness is an illusion that can be corrected by prayer alone"
In 1907 Mark Twain published a satirical diatribe attacking Eddy, entitled Christian Science:
//not SO satirical, still a bit treal as well..
Mark Twain
We cannot peacefully agree as to her motives, therefore her character must remain crooked to some of us and straight to the others.
No matter, she is interesting enough without an amicable agreement. In several ways she is the most interesting woman that ever lived, and the most extraordinary. The same may be said of her career, and the same may be said of its chief result. She started from nothing. Her enemies charge that she surreptitiously took from Quimby a peculiar system of healing which was mind-cure with a Biblical basis. She and her friends deny that she took anything from him. This is a matter which we can discuss by-and-by. Whether she took it or invented it, it was—materially—a sawdust mine when she got it, and she has turned it into a Klondike; its spiritual dock had next to no custom, if any at all: from it she has launched a world-religion which has now six hundred and sixty-three churches, and she charters a new one every four days. When we do not know a person—and also when we do—we have to judge his size by the size and nature of his achievements, as compared with the achievements of others in his special line of business—there is no other way. Measured by this standard, it is thirteen hundred years since the world has produced any one who could reach up to Mrs. Eddy's waistbelt.[107]
When Harper's refused to publish an earlier essay of his on Christian Science in 1903, Twain interpreted the rejection as suppression caused by pressure from Christian Scientists and wrote, "The situation is not barren of humour. I had been doing my best to show in print that the Xn Scientist cult has become a power in the land – well, here is the proof: it has scared the biggest publisher in the Union."[108]
Twain later offered another appraisal of Eddy, reported by his biographer Albert Bigelow Paine:
I was at this period interested a good deal in mental healing, and had been treated for neurasthenia with gratifying results. Like most of the world, I had assumed, from his published articles, that [Twain] condemned Christian Science and its related practices out of hand. When I confessed, rather reluctantly, one day, the benefit I had received, he surprised me by answering:
"Of course you have been benefited. Christian Science is humanity's boon. Mother Eddy deserves a place in the Trinity as much as any member of it. She has organized and made available a healing principle that for two thousand years has never been employed, except as the merest kind of guesswork. She is the benefactor of the age."
It seemed strange, at the time, to hear him speak in this way concerning a practice of which he was generally regarded as the chief public antagonist. It was another angle of his many-sided character
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Eddy was quoted in the New York Herald on 1 May 1901: "Where vaccination is compulsory, let your children be vaccinated, and see that your mind is in such a state that by your prayers vaccination will do the children no harm. So long as Christian Scientists obey the laws, I do not suppose their mental reservations will be thought to matter much."[114] Eddy recognized that, regardless of the administration of the drugs, the drugs would have no effect and thus "do the children no harm" hence proving the legitimacy of her discovery that matter cannot affect matter. She showed that by obeying the man made law you cannot then break the greater laws of Spirit.
Eddy used glasses for several years for very fine print, but later dispensed with them almost entirely.[115] She found she could read fine print with ease.[116] In 1907 Arthur Brisbane interviewed Eddy. At one point he picked up a periodical, selected at random a paragraph, and asked Eddy to read it. According to Brisbane, at the age of eighty six, she read the ordinary magazine type without glasses.
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In 1907, in the course of a legal case, four psychiatrists interviewed Eddy, then 86 years old, to determine whether she could manage her own affairs, and concluded that she was able to.[119] Dr. Allan McLane Hamilton (1848–1919), told The New York Times that the attacks on Eddy were the result of "a spirit of religious persecution that has at last quite overreached itself," and that "there seems to be a manifest injustice in taxing so excellent and capable an old lady as Mrs. Eddy with any form of insanity."[120] Psychiatrist George Eman Vaillant wrote that Eddy was hypochrondriacal.[121] Psychologists Leon Joseph Saul and Silas L. Warner, in their book The Psychotic Personality (1982), came to the conclusion that Eddy had diagnostic characteristics of Psychotic Personality Disorder (PPD)
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//When she passed to another world, from this world,
Hundreds of tributes appeared in newspapers around the world, including The Boston Globe, which wrote, "She did a wonderful—an extraordinary work in the world and there is no doubt that she was a powerful influence for good."
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Currently, there are almost 1,700 Christian Science churches in 76 countries.[125] Eddy's book Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures has been a best seller for decades, and was selected as one of the "75 Books By Women Whose Words Have Changed The World,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Science
In 1907 Mark Twain published a satirical diatribe attacking Eddy, entitled Christian Science:
//not SO satirical, still a bit treal as well..
Mark Twain
We cannot peacefully agree as to her motives, therefore her character must remain crooked to some of us and straight to the others.
No matter, she is interesting enough without an amicable agreement. In several ways she is the most interesting woman that ever lived, and the most extraordinary. The same may be said of her career, and the same may be said of its chief result. She started from nothing. Her enemies charge that she surreptitiously took from Quimby a peculiar system of healing which was mind-cure with a Biblical basis. She and her friends deny that she took anything from him. This is a matter which we can discuss by-and-by. Whether she took it or invented it, it was—materially—a sawdust mine when she got it, and she has turned it into a Klondike; its spiritual dock had next to no custom, if any at all: from it she has launched a world-religion which has now six hundred and sixty-three churches, and she charters a new one every four days. When we do not know a person—and also when we do—we have to judge his size by the size and nature of his achievements, as compared with the achievements of others in his special line of business—there is no other way. Measured by this standard, it is thirteen hundred years since the world has produced any one who could reach up to Mrs. Eddy's waistbelt.[107]
When Harper's refused to publish an earlier essay of his on Christian Science in 1903, Twain interpreted the rejection as suppression caused by pressure from Christian Scientists and wrote, "The situation is not barren of humour. I had been doing my best to show in print that the Xn Scientist cult has become a power in the land – well, here is the proof: it has scared the biggest publisher in the Union."[108]
Twain later offered another appraisal of Eddy, reported by his biographer Albert Bigelow Paine:
I was at this period interested a good deal in mental healing, and had been treated for neurasthenia with gratifying results. Like most of the world, I had assumed, from his published articles, that [Twain] condemned Christian Science and its related practices out of hand. When I confessed, rather reluctantly, one day, the benefit I had received, he surprised me by answering:
"Of course you have been benefited. Christian Science is humanity's boon. Mother Eddy deserves a place in the Trinity as much as any member of it. She has organized and made available a healing principle that for two thousand years has never been employed, except as the merest kind of guesswork. She is the benefactor of the age."
It seemed strange, at the time, to hear him speak in this way concerning a practice of which he was generally regarded as the chief public antagonist. It was another angle of his many-sided character
_________________________
Eddy was quoted in the New York Herald on 1 May 1901: "Where vaccination is compulsory, let your children be vaccinated, and see that your mind is in such a state that by your prayers vaccination will do the children no harm. So long as Christian Scientists obey the laws, I do not suppose their mental reservations will be thought to matter much."[114] Eddy recognized that, regardless of the administration of the drugs, the drugs would have no effect and thus "do the children no harm" hence proving the legitimacy of her discovery that matter cannot affect matter. She showed that by obeying the man made law you cannot then break the greater laws of Spirit.
Eddy used glasses for several years for very fine print, but later dispensed with them almost entirely.[115] She found she could read fine print with ease.[116] In 1907 Arthur Brisbane interviewed Eddy. At one point he picked up a periodical, selected at random a paragraph, and asked Eddy to read it. According to Brisbane, at the age of eighty six, she read the ordinary magazine type without glasses.
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In 1907, in the course of a legal case, four psychiatrists interviewed Eddy, then 86 years old, to determine whether she could manage her own affairs, and concluded that she was able to.[119] Dr. Allan McLane Hamilton (1848–1919), told The New York Times that the attacks on Eddy were the result of "a spirit of religious persecution that has at last quite overreached itself," and that "there seems to be a manifest injustice in taxing so excellent and capable an old lady as Mrs. Eddy with any form of insanity."[120] Psychiatrist George Eman Vaillant wrote that Eddy was hypochrondriacal.[121] Psychologists Leon Joseph Saul and Silas L. Warner, in their book The Psychotic Personality (1982), came to the conclusion that Eddy had diagnostic characteristics of Psychotic Personality Disorder (PPD)
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//When she passed to another world, from this world,
Hundreds of tributes appeared in newspapers around the world, including The Boston Globe, which wrote, "She did a wonderful—an extraordinary work in the world and there is no doubt that she was a powerful influence for good."
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Currently, there are almost 1,700 Christian Science churches in 76 countries.[125] Eddy's book Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures has been a best seller for decades, and was selected as one of the "75 Books By Women Whose Words Have Changed The World,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Science
15 October 2016 03:18
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// After hard star, her life gets more hardcore by year:
Phineas Quimby by 1859 had connected his healing practices with the Christ of the New Testament. He also called his method of healing the "science of health", the "science of Christ," and had used the term "Christian Science" to describe his work.[70] According to the historian of science James C. Whorton, "In Quimby's mind, Christ and science were synonymous; his method of healing he thus called the Science of Christ and even, toward the close of his life, "Christian Science."[71]
Several writers, including Willa Cather and Georgine Milmine in McClure's, and Martin Gardner, have written that Eddy took many of her ideas from Quimby without giving him any kind of credit. Todd Jay Leonard summarized the controversy:
Many critics of Eddy maintained that she basically stole all of her ideas from her longtime teacher, Phineas P. Quimby. It was he who had worked to develop the healing system that she adopted to be used as the base-doctrine in Christian Science. If she did not take all of his ideas, she, at the very least, based her system of healing on his basic treatises about mental healing.[72]
Eddy found that while at first hypnotism seemed to benefit the patient, it later created more problems than the original sickness. Ultimately she rejected any form of hypnotism or mesmerism, stating:
"The hypnotizer employs one error to destroy another. If he heals sickness through a belief, and a belief originally caused the sickness, it is a case of the greater error overcoming the lesser. This greater error thereafter occupies the ground, leaving the case worse than before it was grasped by the stronger error."[
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In the 24th edition of Science and Health, up to the 33rd edition, Eddy admitted the harmony between Vedanta philosophy and Christian Science. She also quoted certain passages from an English translation of the Bhagavad Gita but they were later removed. According to Gill, in the 1891 revision Eddy removed from her book all the references to Eastern religions which her editor, Reverend James Henry Wiggin, had introduced.[74] On this issue Swami Abhedananda wrote:
Mrs. Eddy quoted certain passages from the English edition of the Bhagavad-Gita, but unfortunately, for some reason, those passages of the Gita were omitted in the 34th edition of the book, Science and Health ... if we closely study Mrs. Eddy’s book, we find that Mrs. Eddy has incorporated in her book most of the salient features of Vedanta philosophy, but she denied the debt flatly.[75]
Other writers, such as Jyotirmayananda Saraswati, have said that Eddy may have been influenced by ancient Hindu philosophy.[76] The historian Damodar Singhal wrote:
The Christian Science movement in America was possibly influenced by India. The founder of this movement, Mary Baker Eddy, in common with the Vedantins, believed that matter and suffering were unreal, and that a full realization of this fact was essential for relief from ills and pains ... The Christian Science doctrine has naturally been given a Christian framework, but the echoes of Vedanta in its literature are often striking.[77]
Wendell Thomas in Hinduism Invades America (1930) suggested that Eddy may have discovered Hinduism through the teachings of the New England Transcendentalists such as Bronson Alcott.[78] Stephen Gottschalk, in his The Emergence of Christian Science in American Religious Life (1973), wrote:
The association of Christian Science with Eastern religion would seem to have had some basis in Mrs Eddy's own writings. For in some early editions of Science and Health she had quoted from and commented favorably upon a few Hindu and Buddhist texts... None of these references, however, was to remain a part of Science and Health as it finally stood... Increasingly from the mid-1880s on, Mrs Eddy made a sharp distinction between Christian Science and Eastern religions.[79]
In regards to the influence of Eastern religions on her discovery of Christian Science, Eddy states in The First Church of Christ, Scientist and Miscellany: "Think not that Christian Science tends towards Buddhism or any other 'ism'. Per contra, Christian Science destroys such tendency."
Eddy devoted the rest of her life to the establishment of the church, writing its bylaws, The Manual of The Mother Church, and revising Science and Health. By the 1870s she was telling her students, "Some day I will have a church of my own."[81] In 1879 she and her students established the Church of Christ, Scientist, "to commemorate the word and works of our Master [Jesus], which should reinstate primitive Christianity and its lost element of healing
The converse of mental healing was the use of mental powers to destroy people's health – what Eddy termed "malicious animal magnetism." She was concerned that a new practitioner could inadvertently harm a patient through unenlightened use of their mental powers, and that less scrupulous individuals could use such powers as a weapon.[95]
In 1872 Eddy had an argument with her student Richard Kennedy and he was expelled from Christian Science. Later she came to believe that he was using mental powers to destroy her so she ordered her students to "mobilize all their mental energy to combat him".[96] Eddy also ordered her students to stand outside her bedroom door to protect her from any mental attacks directed at her. In 1882 Eddy publicly claimed that her last husband, Asa Gilbert Eddy, had died of "mental assassination".[97] Daniel Spofford was another Christian Scientist expelled by Eddy after she accused him of practicing malicious animal magnetism.[98] According to Eugene V. Gallagher:
Eddy believed that former students actually had the power to commit “mental assassination". After a breakup with one of her early protégés, Daniel H. Spofford, she thought he was using mental malpractice to undermine her Christian Science practice. In a celebrated case (1878) that earned her much negative publicity, she took part in a lawsuit against Spofford, claiming that he deliberately practiced malicious mesmerism on one of her unhealed patients, Lucretia Brown. Irreverently dubbed "The Second Salem Witch Trial", the suit was eventually thrown out of court.[99]
The belief in malicious animal magnetism "remains a part of the doctrine of Christian Science."[100] In an article entitled "Malicious Animal Magnetism" published in the Christian Science Journal, February 1889, Eddy wrote that mental assassination was one of the greatest crimes and that anyone practicing it should be put to death by a human executioner.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Quimby
Phineas Quimby by 1859 had connected his healing practices with the Christ of the New Testament. He also called his method of healing the "science of health", the "science of Christ," and had used the term "Christian Science" to describe his work.[70] According to the historian of science James C. Whorton, "In Quimby's mind, Christ and science were synonymous; his method of healing he thus called the Science of Christ and even, toward the close of his life, "Christian Science."[71]
Several writers, including Willa Cather and Georgine Milmine in McClure's, and Martin Gardner, have written that Eddy took many of her ideas from Quimby without giving him any kind of credit. Todd Jay Leonard summarized the controversy:
Many critics of Eddy maintained that she basically stole all of her ideas from her longtime teacher, Phineas P. Quimby. It was he who had worked to develop the healing system that she adopted to be used as the base-doctrine in Christian Science. If she did not take all of his ideas, she, at the very least, based her system of healing on his basic treatises about mental healing.[72]
Eddy found that while at first hypnotism seemed to benefit the patient, it later created more problems than the original sickness. Ultimately she rejected any form of hypnotism or mesmerism, stating:
"The hypnotizer employs one error to destroy another. If he heals sickness through a belief, and a belief originally caused the sickness, it is a case of the greater error overcoming the lesser. This greater error thereafter occupies the ground, leaving the case worse than before it was grasped by the stronger error."[
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In the 24th edition of Science and Health, up to the 33rd edition, Eddy admitted the harmony between Vedanta philosophy and Christian Science. She also quoted certain passages from an English translation of the Bhagavad Gita but they were later removed. According to Gill, in the 1891 revision Eddy removed from her book all the references to Eastern religions which her editor, Reverend James Henry Wiggin, had introduced.[74] On this issue Swami Abhedananda wrote:
Mrs. Eddy quoted certain passages from the English edition of the Bhagavad-Gita, but unfortunately, for some reason, those passages of the Gita were omitted in the 34th edition of the book, Science and Health ... if we closely study Mrs. Eddy’s book, we find that Mrs. Eddy has incorporated in her book most of the salient features of Vedanta philosophy, but she denied the debt flatly.[75]
Other writers, such as Jyotirmayananda Saraswati, have said that Eddy may have been influenced by ancient Hindu philosophy.[76] The historian Damodar Singhal wrote:
The Christian Science movement in America was possibly influenced by India. The founder of this movement, Mary Baker Eddy, in common with the Vedantins, believed that matter and suffering were unreal, and that a full realization of this fact was essential for relief from ills and pains ... The Christian Science doctrine has naturally been given a Christian framework, but the echoes of Vedanta in its literature are often striking.[77]
Wendell Thomas in Hinduism Invades America (1930) suggested that Eddy may have discovered Hinduism through the teachings of the New England Transcendentalists such as Bronson Alcott.[78] Stephen Gottschalk, in his The Emergence of Christian Science in American Religious Life (1973), wrote:
The association of Christian Science with Eastern religion would seem to have had some basis in Mrs Eddy's own writings. For in some early editions of Science and Health she had quoted from and commented favorably upon a few Hindu and Buddhist texts... None of these references, however, was to remain a part of Science and Health as it finally stood... Increasingly from the mid-1880s on, Mrs Eddy made a sharp distinction between Christian Science and Eastern religions.[79]
In regards to the influence of Eastern religions on her discovery of Christian Science, Eddy states in The First Church of Christ, Scientist and Miscellany: "Think not that Christian Science tends towards Buddhism or any other 'ism'. Per contra, Christian Science destroys such tendency."
Eddy devoted the rest of her life to the establishment of the church, writing its bylaws, The Manual of The Mother Church, and revising Science and Health. By the 1870s she was telling her students, "Some day I will have a church of my own."[81] In 1879 she and her students established the Church of Christ, Scientist, "to commemorate the word and works of our Master [Jesus], which should reinstate primitive Christianity and its lost element of healing
The converse of mental healing was the use of mental powers to destroy people's health – what Eddy termed "malicious animal magnetism." She was concerned that a new practitioner could inadvertently harm a patient through unenlightened use of their mental powers, and that less scrupulous individuals could use such powers as a weapon.[95]
In 1872 Eddy had an argument with her student Richard Kennedy and he was expelled from Christian Science. Later she came to believe that he was using mental powers to destroy her so she ordered her students to "mobilize all their mental energy to combat him".[96] Eddy also ordered her students to stand outside her bedroom door to protect her from any mental attacks directed at her. In 1882 Eddy publicly claimed that her last husband, Asa Gilbert Eddy, had died of "mental assassination".[97] Daniel Spofford was another Christian Scientist expelled by Eddy after she accused him of practicing malicious animal magnetism.[98] According to Eugene V. Gallagher:
Eddy believed that former students actually had the power to commit “mental assassination". After a breakup with one of her early protégés, Daniel H. Spofford, she thought he was using mental malpractice to undermine her Christian Science practice. In a celebrated case (1878) that earned her much negative publicity, she took part in a lawsuit against Spofford, claiming that he deliberately practiced malicious mesmerism on one of her unhealed patients, Lucretia Brown. Irreverently dubbed "The Second Salem Witch Trial", the suit was eventually thrown out of court.[99]
The belief in malicious animal magnetism "remains a part of the doctrine of Christian Science."[100] In an article entitled "Malicious Animal Magnetism" published in the Christian Science Journal, February 1889, Eddy wrote that mental assassination was one of the greatest crimes and that anyone practicing it should be put to death by a human executioner.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Quimby
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Quimby
15 October 2016 03:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But the other branch of tree seems really other kind.. of past:
Mary Baker Eddy (July 16, 1821 – December 3, 1910) was the founder of Christian Science, a new religious movement in the United States in the latter half of the 19th century.
Eddy wrote the movement's textbook Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures (first published 1875) and founded the Church of Christ, Scientist in 1879. She also founded the Christian Science Publishing Society (1898), which continues to publish a number of periodicals, including The Christian Science Monitor (founded in 1908)
The Baker children inherited their father's temper, according to McClure's; they also inherited his good looks, and Eddy became known as the village beauty. Life was nevertheless spartan and repetitive. Every day began with lengthy prayer and continued with hard work. The only rest day was the Sabbath...
Eddy and her father reportedly had a volatile relationship. Ernest Sutherland Bates and John V. Dittemore wrote in 1932 that Baker sought to break Eddy's will with harsh punishment, although her mother often intervened; in contrast to Mark Baker, Eddy's mother was described as devout, quiet, light-hearted, and kind.[10] Eddy experienced periods of sudden illness, perhaps in an effort to control her father's attitude toward her.[11] Those who knew the family described her as suddenly falling to the floor, writhing and screaming, or silent and apparently unconsciousness, sometimes for hours
Gillian Gill wrote in 1998 that Eddy was often sick as a child and appears to have suffered from an eating disorder, but reports may have been exaggerated concerning hysterical fits.[14] Eddy described her problems with food in the first edition of Science and Health (1875). She wrote that she had suffered from chronic indigestion as a child and, hoping to cure it, had embarked on a diet of nothing but water, bread, and vegetables, at one point consumed just once a day: "Thus we passed most of our early years, as many can attest, in hunger, pain, weakness, and starvation."
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Eddy said that she experienced a healing on February 4, 1866, after a fall in [Lynn, Massachusetts] on February 1 caused a spinal injury:
On the third day thereafter, I called for my Bible, and opened it at Matthew, 9:2 [And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.(King James Bible) ]. As I read, the healing Truth dawned upon my sense; and the result was that I arose, dressed myself, and ever after was in better health than I had before enjoyed. That short experience included a glimpse of the great fact that I have since tried to make plain to others, namely, Life in and of Spirit; this Life being the sole reality of existence.[42]
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She wrote in her autobiography Retrospection and Introspection that she devoted the next three years of her life to biblical study and what she considered the discovery of Christian Science: "I then withdrew from society about three years,--to ponder my mission, to search the Scriptures, to find the Science of Mind that should take the things of God and show them to the creature, and reveal the great curative Principle, --Deity."
Eddy became convinced that illness could be healed through an awakened thought brought about by a clearer perception of God and the explicit rejection of drugs, hygiene, and medicine, based on the observation that Jesus did not use these methods for healing:
It is plain that God does not employ drugs or hygiene, nor provide them for human use; else Jesus would have recommended and employed them in his healing. ... The tender word and Christian encouragement of an invalid, pitiful patience with his fears and the removal of them, are better than hecatombs of gushing theories, stereotyped borrowed speeches, and the doling of arguments, which are but so many parodies on legitimate Christian Science, aflame with divine Love
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Her friends during these years were generally Spiritualists; she seems to have professed herself a Spiritualist, and to have taken part in séances. She was occasionally entranced, and had received "spirit communications" from her deceased brother Albert. Her first advertisement as a healer appeared in 1868, in the Spiritualist paper, The Banner of Light. During these years she carried about with her a copy of one of Quimby's manuscripts giving an abstract of his philosophy. This manuscript she permitted some of her pupils to copy.[48]
photograph
Eddy in Lynn, MA, 1871
Eddy attempted to distinguish Christian Science from Spiritualism, and wrote in her later publications that she had never been a Spiritualist. According to Robert Peel, Eddy gave a public talk opposing Spiritualism in Warren, Maine in the spring of 1864.[49] Hiram Crafts, a student of hers, stated in an affidavit: "At that date I was a Spiritualist, but her teachings changed my views on that subject and I gave up spiritualism
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Eddy's arguments against Spiritualism convinced at least one other who was there at the time—Hiram Crafts—that "her science was far superior to spirit teachings."
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"Eddy showed extensive familiarity with Spiritualist practice but denounced it in her Christian Science writings.[65] Ann Braude wrote that there were similarities between Spiritualism and Christian Science, but the main difference was that Eddy came to believe, after she founded Christian Science, that spirit manifestations had never really had bodies to begin with, because matter is unreal and that all that really exists is spirit, before and after death"
/// in here, maybe
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he first publication run was 1,000 copies, which she self-published. During these years, she taught what she considered the science of "primitive Christianity" to at least 800 people.[67] Many of her students became healers themselves. The last 100 pages of Science and Health (chapter entitled "Fruitage") contains testimonies of people who claimed to have been healed by reading her book. She made numerous revisions to her book from the time of its first publication until shortly before her death
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Baker_Eddy
Mary Baker Eddy (July 16, 1821 – December 3, 1910) was the founder of Christian Science, a new religious movement in the United States in the latter half of the 19th century.
Eddy wrote the movement's textbook Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures (first published 1875) and founded the Church of Christ, Scientist in 1879. She also founded the Christian Science Publishing Society (1898), which continues to publish a number of periodicals, including The Christian Science Monitor (founded in 1908)
The Baker children inherited their father's temper, according to McClure's; they also inherited his good looks, and Eddy became known as the village beauty. Life was nevertheless spartan and repetitive. Every day began with lengthy prayer and continued with hard work. The only rest day was the Sabbath...
Eddy and her father reportedly had a volatile relationship. Ernest Sutherland Bates and John V. Dittemore wrote in 1932 that Baker sought to break Eddy's will with harsh punishment, although her mother often intervened; in contrast to Mark Baker, Eddy's mother was described as devout, quiet, light-hearted, and kind.[10] Eddy experienced periods of sudden illness, perhaps in an effort to control her father's attitude toward her.[11] Those who knew the family described her as suddenly falling to the floor, writhing and screaming, or silent and apparently unconsciousness, sometimes for hours
Gillian Gill wrote in 1998 that Eddy was often sick as a child and appears to have suffered from an eating disorder, but reports may have been exaggerated concerning hysterical fits.[14] Eddy described her problems with food in the first edition of Science and Health (1875). She wrote that she had suffered from chronic indigestion as a child and, hoping to cure it, had embarked on a diet of nothing but water, bread, and vegetables, at one point consumed just once a day: "Thus we passed most of our early years, as many can attest, in hunger, pain, weakness, and starvation."
--
Eddy said that she experienced a healing on February 4, 1866, after a fall in [Lynn, Massachusetts] on February 1 caused a spinal injury:
On the third day thereafter, I called for my Bible, and opened it at Matthew, 9:2 [And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.(King James Bible) ]. As I read, the healing Truth dawned upon my sense; and the result was that I arose, dressed myself, and ever after was in better health than I had before enjoyed. That short experience included a glimpse of the great fact that I have since tried to make plain to others, namely, Life in and of Spirit; this Life being the sole reality of existence.[42]
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She wrote in her autobiography Retrospection and Introspection that she devoted the next three years of her life to biblical study and what she considered the discovery of Christian Science: "I then withdrew from society about three years,--to ponder my mission, to search the Scriptures, to find the Science of Mind that should take the things of God and show them to the creature, and reveal the great curative Principle, --Deity."
Eddy became convinced that illness could be healed through an awakened thought brought about by a clearer perception of God and the explicit rejection of drugs, hygiene, and medicine, based on the observation that Jesus did not use these methods for healing:
It is plain that God does not employ drugs or hygiene, nor provide them for human use; else Jesus would have recommended and employed them in his healing. ... The tender word and Christian encouragement of an invalid, pitiful patience with his fears and the removal of them, are better than hecatombs of gushing theories, stereotyped borrowed speeches, and the doling of arguments, which are but so many parodies on legitimate Christian Science, aflame with divine Love
--
Her friends during these years were generally Spiritualists; she seems to have professed herself a Spiritualist, and to have taken part in séances. She was occasionally entranced, and had received "spirit communications" from her deceased brother Albert. Her first advertisement as a healer appeared in 1868, in the Spiritualist paper, The Banner of Light. During these years she carried about with her a copy of one of Quimby's manuscripts giving an abstract of his philosophy. This manuscript she permitted some of her pupils to copy.[48]
photograph
Eddy in Lynn, MA, 1871
Eddy attempted to distinguish Christian Science from Spiritualism, and wrote in her later publications that she had never been a Spiritualist. According to Robert Peel, Eddy gave a public talk opposing Spiritualism in Warren, Maine in the spring of 1864.[49] Hiram Crafts, a student of hers, stated in an affidavit: "At that date I was a Spiritualist, but her teachings changed my views on that subject and I gave up spiritualism
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Eddy's arguments against Spiritualism convinced at least one other who was there at the time—Hiram Crafts—that "her science was far superior to spirit teachings."
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"Eddy showed extensive familiarity with Spiritualist practice but denounced it in her Christian Science writings.[65] Ann Braude wrote that there were similarities between Spiritualism and Christian Science, but the main difference was that Eddy came to believe, after she founded Christian Science, that spirit manifestations had never really had bodies to begin with, because matter is unreal and that all that really exists is spirit, before and after death"
/// in here, maybe
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he first publication run was 1,000 copies, which she self-published. During these years, she taught what she considered the science of "primitive Christianity" to at least 800 people.[67] Many of her students became healers themselves. The last 100 pages of Science and Health (chapter entitled "Fruitage") contains testimonies of people who claimed to have been healed by reading her book. She made numerous revisions to her book from the time of its first publication until shortly before her death
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Baker_Eddy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Baker_Eddy
15 October 2016 03:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
On the Early times efore the Secret come about...
In 1885, perhaps under the impetus of Christian Scientist Miranda Rice, ] Cramer had what she described as a divine revelation after an "hour of earnest mediation and prayerful seeking"[ ] and "that hour was the beginning of my realization of the oneness of Life, [and] a gleam of its Truth flashed across my mental vision".[ ] Within two years she was healed
In 1887, she began to practice faith-healing herself. In October 1888, Cramer inaugurated Harmony, a monthly journal.[6] In May 1888, she and her husband opened what would become the Home College of Divine Science.[5] The term "Divine Science", however, was not coined by Cramer, but had been used earlier by Mary Baker Eddy, founder of Christian Science, as well as by Wilberforce Juvenal Colville, who had published a book by that title that year.
In 1892, Cramer founded the International Divine Science Association, a forerunner of the International New Thought Alliance, which would interconnect the various New Thought centers. In 1893, she helped open the second Divine Science College, in Oakland, and undertook several cross-country missionary trips.[7]
Between 1893 and 1898, Cramer trained Nona L. Brooks,[8] ordaining her as a minister in the Church of Divine Science on December 1, 1898. Brooks returned to Denver and, with sisters Fannie Brooks James and Alethea Brooks Small, formed a church there,[9] one which would eventually become the home church of the denomination
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malinda_Cramer
Malinda Cramer was the author of several books, including:[12]
Divine Science And Healing.
Originally published as Lessons in the Science of Infinite Spirit, and the Christ Method of Healing by C. W. Gordon (San Francisco) 1890.
Revised edition was published as Divine Science and Healing C. L. Cramer (San Francisco, CA), 1902.
In 1905, published as Divine Science and Healing: A Text-book for the Study of Divine Science, Its Application in Healing, and for the Well-being of Each Individual, Home College of Divine Science (San Francisco).
In 1957, published as Divine Science: Its Principles and Practice, Fannie B. James, ed., Divine Science Federation Int'l, (Denver), 1957.
Hidden Harmony
Published as Malinda Cramer's Hidden Harmony, Joan Cline-McCrary, ed., Divine Science Federation International (Denver), 1990.
Basic Statements and Health Treatment of Truth: A System of Instruction in Divine Science and Its Application in Healing and for Class Training, Home and Private Use, 1893.
Eighth edition, 1905.
//love to Her loved one cured Her
In 1885, perhaps under the impetus of Christian Scientist Miranda Rice, ] Cramer had what she described as a divine revelation after an "hour of earnest mediation and prayerful seeking"[ ] and "that hour was the beginning of my realization of the oneness of Life, [and] a gleam of its Truth flashed across my mental vision".[ ] Within two years she was healed
In 1887, she began to practice faith-healing herself. In October 1888, Cramer inaugurated Harmony, a monthly journal.[6] In May 1888, she and her husband opened what would become the Home College of Divine Science.[5] The term "Divine Science", however, was not coined by Cramer, but had been used earlier by Mary Baker Eddy, founder of Christian Science, as well as by Wilberforce Juvenal Colville, who had published a book by that title that year.
In 1892, Cramer founded the International Divine Science Association, a forerunner of the International New Thought Alliance, which would interconnect the various New Thought centers. In 1893, she helped open the second Divine Science College, in Oakland, and undertook several cross-country missionary trips.[7]
Between 1893 and 1898, Cramer trained Nona L. Brooks,[8] ordaining her as a minister in the Church of Divine Science on December 1, 1898. Brooks returned to Denver and, with sisters Fannie Brooks James and Alethea Brooks Small, formed a church there,[9] one which would eventually become the home church of the denomination
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malinda_Cramer
Malinda Cramer was the author of several books, including:[12]
Divine Science And Healing.
Originally published as Lessons in the Science of Infinite Spirit, and the Christ Method of Healing by C. W. Gordon (San Francisco) 1890.
Revised edition was published as Divine Science and Healing C. L. Cramer (San Francisco, CA), 1902.
In 1905, published as Divine Science and Healing: A Text-book for the Study of Divine Science, Its Application in Healing, and for the Well-being of Each Individual, Home College of Divine Science (San Francisco).
In 1957, published as Divine Science: Its Principles and Practice, Fannie B. James, ed., Divine Science Federation Int'l, (Denver), 1957.
Hidden Harmony
Published as Malinda Cramer's Hidden Harmony, Joan Cline-McCrary, ed., Divine Science Federation International (Denver), 1990.
Basic Statements and Health Treatment of Truth: A System of Instruction in Divine Science and Its Application in Healing and for Class Training, Home and Private Use, 1893.
Eighth edition, 1905.
//love to Her loved one cured Her
15 October 2016 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Emerson Theological Institute is operated by the ANTN to provide Religious Studies degrees including bachelors, masters, and doctorates, and certificates for ministers. The Institute is accredited by the Accrediting Commission International for Schools, Colleges and Theological Seminaries.
There are three major organizations for Religious Science: Centers for Spiritual Living, the Affiliated New Thought Network, and the Global Religious Science Ministries.
According to The Science of Mind, the ten core concepts of RS/SOM (as taught in the "Foundations of Science of Mind" class) are:[
There is One Cosmic Reality Principle and Presence in the Universe — commonly called "God". All creation originates in this One Source. EXPLANATION: God is not one thing, but rather is an Energy Source or Infinite Intelligence present in everything in the Cosmos (i.e. everything seen and unseen in this and all other parallel dimensions of the Universe).
God is threefold (triune) in nature, having three aspects or modes of being within the One: Spirit, Soul and Body. This is God seen as the Universal Macrocosm. EXPLANATION: The term "Universal Macrocosm" is another term for all dimensions of the Universe.
Spirit is the great Causative Power of the Universe. The Word, or thought, of God eternally initiates the Divine Creative Process. In this process, Law is continuously set in motion to create, from the Unformed Substance, innumerable forms which follow the thought-patterns of Spirit. EXPLANATION: God consciously initiates creation with thought and thereby forms all things from unformed substance by using Its "Soul" (i.e. the impersonal Law of Cause and Effect — that is "What you sow is what you reap." See further explanation in the second paragraph of this "Teachings and Practices" Section. Since God is in everything (see #1), humans include God; and humans can use that God-energy to create, on the human level.
In the Infinite Nature of God, all conceivable Good is eternally available, ready to flow into human experience. Through some cosmic Process, this flow of Good is activated and/or increased by human belief, faith, and acceptance. The expression of this essential belief, faith, and acceptance is prayer. EXPLANATION: "Prayer" is "Spiritual Mind Treatment" (see third paragraph of this section, above). This is the main Religious Science technique to tap into God (defined in #1 as "present in everything" — i.e. Its "Infinite Nature") to create all the good we desire on the human level, analogous to God creating on the Universe level (see #3). This requires faith in the knowledge that the technique is working right now.
This is a Universe of Wholeness, Allness, Oneness. Spirit is a transcendent, perfect Wholeness that, in Its infinite inclusivity, harmoniously embraces all seeming opposites. EXPLANATION: Since God is present throughout the Universe these are some of the attributes of God.
This is a Universe of infinite abundance, spiritual, mental, and physical. This Bounty of Spirit, this Allness of Good, is limitless and can never be depleted. EXPLANATION: These are some more of the attributes of God.
This is a reciprocal Universe. For every visible form, there is an invisible counterpart. Everything in nature tends to equalize itself, to keep its balance true. EXPLANATION: This is the Law of Cause and Effect (See further explanation in the second paragraph of this "Teachings and Practices" Section).
The Universe exists in the Eternal Now, each moment complete and perfect within itself. In this Universal Harmony, justice without judgment is always automatic, an infallible Universal Principle. There can be no place for Divine anger, unforgiveness, or punishment. EXPLANATION: God's and human's thoughts, actions, and manifestations can only occur in the present. The Law of Cause and Effect is always working. We make our "Heaven and Hell" experiences every moment in the present, with the choices we make. To the extent that mankind achieves the Divine attributes, it evolves into God's attributes.
Immortality is a Universal Principle, not a "belief' or a bargain made with the Universe for good behavior. God knows only Life, its eternal continuity, evolution, and expansion. EXPLANATION: Religious Scientists know (rather than believe) that life evolves in this as well as all other dimensions, even after our souls make their transition into those dimensions. In this case, the term "Universal" means "no exceptions."
The mystic concept of the Cosmic Christ is not that of a person, but of a Principle, a Universal Presence ... the Universal Image of God present in all creation ... the "pattern that connects." EXPLANATION: The term "Cosmic Christ" here is a metaphor for that God-like consciousness that was and is present in all the Prophets and other enlightened people who have and are using this Principle to assist in the positive evolution of mankind, society, and/or their own personal lives. "Christ" was not Jesus' last name, but rather a title for an enlightened person, or "anointed one" that was created and given to him before the 12th century A.D.Early Hebrew kings were given the title "Christ."
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The Emerson Theological Institute is operated by the ANTN to provide Religious Studies degrees including bachelors, masters, and doctorates, and certificates for ministers. The Institute is accredited by the Accrediting Commission International for Schools, Colleges and Theological Seminaries. Barbara Marx Hubbard developed her popular "Gateway for Conscious Evolution" while creating a curriculum for the Institute
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affiliated_New_Thought_Network
http://www.antn.org/
Heffter Research Institute
There are three major organizations for Religious Science: Centers for Spiritual Living, the Affiliated New Thought Network, and the Global Religious Science Ministries.
According to The Science of Mind, the ten core concepts of RS/SOM (as taught in the "Foundations of Science of Mind" class) are:[
There is One Cosmic Reality Principle and Presence in the Universe — commonly called "God". All creation originates in this One Source. EXPLANATION: God is not one thing, but rather is an Energy Source or Infinite Intelligence present in everything in the Cosmos (i.e. everything seen and unseen in this and all other parallel dimensions of the Universe).
God is threefold (triune) in nature, having three aspects or modes of being within the One: Spirit, Soul and Body. This is God seen as the Universal Macrocosm. EXPLANATION: The term "Universal Macrocosm" is another term for all dimensions of the Universe.
Spirit is the great Causative Power of the Universe. The Word, or thought, of God eternally initiates the Divine Creative Process. In this process, Law is continuously set in motion to create, from the Unformed Substance, innumerable forms which follow the thought-patterns of Spirit. EXPLANATION: God consciously initiates creation with thought and thereby forms all things from unformed substance by using Its "Soul" (i.e. the impersonal Law of Cause and Effect — that is "What you sow is what you reap." See further explanation in the second paragraph of this "Teachings and Practices" Section. Since God is in everything (see #1), humans include God; and humans can use that God-energy to create, on the human level.
In the Infinite Nature of God, all conceivable Good is eternally available, ready to flow into human experience. Through some cosmic Process, this flow of Good is activated and/or increased by human belief, faith, and acceptance. The expression of this essential belief, faith, and acceptance is prayer. EXPLANATION: "Prayer" is "Spiritual Mind Treatment" (see third paragraph of this section, above). This is the main Religious Science technique to tap into God (defined in #1 as "present in everything" — i.e. Its "Infinite Nature") to create all the good we desire on the human level, analogous to God creating on the Universe level (see #3). This requires faith in the knowledge that the technique is working right now.
This is a Universe of Wholeness, Allness, Oneness. Spirit is a transcendent, perfect Wholeness that, in Its infinite inclusivity, harmoniously embraces all seeming opposites. EXPLANATION: Since God is present throughout the Universe these are some of the attributes of God.
This is a Universe of infinite abundance, spiritual, mental, and physical. This Bounty of Spirit, this Allness of Good, is limitless and can never be depleted. EXPLANATION: These are some more of the attributes of God.
This is a reciprocal Universe. For every visible form, there is an invisible counterpart. Everything in nature tends to equalize itself, to keep its balance true. EXPLANATION: This is the Law of Cause and Effect (See further explanation in the second paragraph of this "Teachings and Practices" Section).
The Universe exists in the Eternal Now, each moment complete and perfect within itself. In this Universal Harmony, justice without judgment is always automatic, an infallible Universal Principle. There can be no place for Divine anger, unforgiveness, or punishment. EXPLANATION: God's and human's thoughts, actions, and manifestations can only occur in the present. The Law of Cause and Effect is always working. We make our "Heaven and Hell" experiences every moment in the present, with the choices we make. To the extent that mankind achieves the Divine attributes, it evolves into God's attributes.
Immortality is a Universal Principle, not a "belief' or a bargain made with the Universe for good behavior. God knows only Life, its eternal continuity, evolution, and expansion. EXPLANATION: Religious Scientists know (rather than believe) that life evolves in this as well as all other dimensions, even after our souls make their transition into those dimensions. In this case, the term "Universal" means "no exceptions."
The mystic concept of the Cosmic Christ is not that of a person, but of a Principle, a Universal Presence ... the Universal Image of God present in all creation ... the "pattern that connects." EXPLANATION: The term "Cosmic Christ" here is a metaphor for that God-like consciousness that was and is present in all the Prophets and other enlightened people who have and are using this Principle to assist in the positive evolution of mankind, society, and/or their own personal lives. "Christ" was not Jesus' last name, but rather a title for an enlightened person, or "anointed one" that was created and given to him before the 12th century A.D.Early Hebrew kings were given the title "Christ."
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The Emerson Theological Institute is operated by the ANTN to provide Religious Studies degrees including bachelors, masters, and doctorates, and certificates for ministers. The Institute is accredited by the Accrediting Commission International for Schools, Colleges and Theological Seminaries. Barbara Marx Hubbard developed her popular "Gateway for Conscious Evolution" while creating a curriculum for the Institute
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affiliated_New_Thought_Network
http://www.antn.org/
Heffter Research Institute
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affiliated_New_Thought_Network
15 October 2016 02:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The college was chartered in 1871-1891 by a bequest of Sophia Smith (three Smith professors, one who had been there for 38 years, were fired or "allowed to retire" for being gay)
Smith College is a private, independent women's liberal arts college with coed graduate and certificate programs, located in Northampton, Massachusetts, United States. It is the largest member of the Seven Sisters. In its 2017 edition, U.S. News & World Report ranked it tied for 12th among the best National Liberal Arts Colleges.[6] Smith is also a member of the Five Colleges consortium,[7] which allows its students to attend classes at four other Pioneer Valley institutions: Mount Holyoke College, Amherst College, Hampshire College, and the University of Massachusetts Amherst
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_College
Smith has numerous folk tales and ghost stories that emerge from the histories of some of its historic buildings. One such tale holds that Sessions House is inhabited by the ghost of Lucy Hunt, who died of a broken heart after being separated from her lover, General Burgoyne. Reports of a ghost in Sessions House predate its history as a campus house. Built in 1751 by the Hunt family, the house has a secret staircase where, according to legend, the Hunt's eldest daughter Lucy would rendezvous with her lover, General Burgoyne. The two were ultimately driven apart, and in the 1880s it was believed that the ghost of a heartbroken Burgoyne haunted the staircase. Since Sessions House became part of college housing in the 20th century, the specter has taken on a decidedly feminine identity, and some former residents of Sessions claim to have seen Lucy's ghost in the stairwell.
Smith has taken numerous steps toward environmental sustainability, including a 30% reduction in energy use. Also, through a contract with Zipcar, the college has reduced the need for individually owned cars on campus. Complementing this effort, the college has also promoted sustainability through academics and through the arts.[50]
In keeping with its sustainability efforts, all Smith dining locations have discontinued the use of "to-go" supplies which included paper cups and plates, as well as plastic utensils. They now encourage students to bring their own, reusable containers and utensils if they wish to bring food back to their rooms. Smith College provides all students with a reusable drink container at the beginning of each academic year. In past years, these containers have been variations on travel mugs, Sigg bottles, and nalgenes. Those dining halls that still offer "To-Go" options no longer provide paper bags, and instead use wax paper bags, biodegradable plastic, and recyclable utensils made of vegetable cellulose.
For Smith's efforts regarding sustainability, the institution earned a grade of "A-" on the "College Sustainability Report Card 2010" administered by the Sustainable Endowments Institute. Smith was lauded for many of the indicator categories, including student involvement, green building, and transportation, but was marked down for endowment transparency.
First Lady of the United States Nancy Reagan was also a student there : )
also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_School_of_Architecture_and_Landscape_Architecture
Smith College is a private, independent women's liberal arts college with coed graduate and certificate programs, located in Northampton, Massachusetts, United States. It is the largest member of the Seven Sisters. In its 2017 edition, U.S. News & World Report ranked it tied for 12th among the best National Liberal Arts Colleges.[6] Smith is also a member of the Five Colleges consortium,[7] which allows its students to attend classes at four other Pioneer Valley institutions: Mount Holyoke College, Amherst College, Hampshire College, and the University of Massachusetts Amherst
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_College
Smith has numerous folk tales and ghost stories that emerge from the histories of some of its historic buildings. One such tale holds that Sessions House is inhabited by the ghost of Lucy Hunt, who died of a broken heart after being separated from her lover, General Burgoyne. Reports of a ghost in Sessions House predate its history as a campus house. Built in 1751 by the Hunt family, the house has a secret staircase where, according to legend, the Hunt's eldest daughter Lucy would rendezvous with her lover, General Burgoyne. The two were ultimately driven apart, and in the 1880s it was believed that the ghost of a heartbroken Burgoyne haunted the staircase. Since Sessions House became part of college housing in the 20th century, the specter has taken on a decidedly feminine identity, and some former residents of Sessions claim to have seen Lucy's ghost in the stairwell.
Smith has taken numerous steps toward environmental sustainability, including a 30% reduction in energy use. Also, through a contract with Zipcar, the college has reduced the need for individually owned cars on campus. Complementing this effort, the college has also promoted sustainability through academics and through the arts.[50]
In keeping with its sustainability efforts, all Smith dining locations have discontinued the use of "to-go" supplies which included paper cups and plates, as well as plastic utensils. They now encourage students to bring their own, reusable containers and utensils if they wish to bring food back to their rooms. Smith College provides all students with a reusable drink container at the beginning of each academic year. In past years, these containers have been variations on travel mugs, Sigg bottles, and nalgenes. Those dining halls that still offer "To-Go" options no longer provide paper bags, and instead use wax paper bags, biodegradable plastic, and recyclable utensils made of vegetable cellulose.
For Smith's efforts regarding sustainability, the institution earned a grade of "A-" on the "College Sustainability Report Card 2010" administered by the Sustainable Endowments Institute. Smith was lauded for many of the indicator categories, including student involvement, green building, and transportation, but was marked down for endowment transparency.
First Lady of the United States Nancy Reagan was also a student there : )
also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_School_of_Architecture_and_Landscape_Architecture
15 October 2016 02:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
More,ordinary schools from higer education:
Professional Children's School was founded by two reform-minded New Yorkers, Jane Harris Hall and Jean Greer Robinson
Professional Children's School is a not-for-profit, college preparatory school enrolling 200 students (mostly working or aspiring child actors or dancers) in grades 6-12. The school was founded in New York City in 1914
Public and private schools of the day did not accommodate the schedules of stage children and, more often than not, children were simply skipping school to work on the stage. Some reformers talked of banning children from the stage entirely. Determined to help these "unknown friends on the other side of the footlights," as Mrs. Robinson would later write, the women decided to found a school especially for New York's professional children. On January 6, 1914, PCS admitted its first two students in borrowed quarters in the Theater District. An immediate success, the school enrolled over 100 students within its first yea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_Children%27s_School#Distinguished_alumni
Professional Children's School was founded by two reform-minded New Yorkers, Jane Harris Hall and Jean Greer Robinson
Professional Children's School is a not-for-profit, college preparatory school enrolling 200 students (mostly working or aspiring child actors or dancers) in grades 6-12. The school was founded in New York City in 1914
Public and private schools of the day did not accommodate the schedules of stage children and, more often than not, children were simply skipping school to work on the stage. Some reformers talked of banning children from the stage entirely. Determined to help these "unknown friends on the other side of the footlights," as Mrs. Robinson would later write, the women decided to found a school especially for New York's professional children. On January 6, 1914, PCS admitted its first two students in borrowed quarters in the Theater District. An immediate success, the school enrolled over 100 students within its first yea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_Children%27s_School#Distinguished_alumni
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_Children%27s_School#Distinguished_alumni
15 October 2016 01:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Holmes institute, accredited by the Distance Education and Training Council, a member of The Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA), is a Master's Degree program whose mission is to prepare spiritual leaders for service in the global community. This unique program is dedicated to educating Licensed Ministers for United Centers for Spiritual Living through a quality distance education program in the areas of education, leadership, philosophy, science and spirituality, psychology, and religion. To learn more, visit http://www.holmesinstitute.org.
http://guidancechurch.org/FAQ-links.html
Mental Science
The Science of Mind and Spirit. A systematic knowledge of the laws of the Mental and Spiritual World
Metaphysics
That which is beyond the known laws of physics
Prayer and Spiritual Mind Treatment
Affirmative prayer, or spiritual mind treatment, is a simple process. It asks us to pray knowing. This is the way Jesus of Nazareth and the Buddha prayer. When you pray believing that the prayer is already answered, it allows you to naturally, create what you desire. You’re allowing spiritual laws of this Universe to unfold in your life and create your highest good.
Spiritual Mind Treatment is when you use affirmative prayer to shift your below. Below, please find a step-by-step Prayer Treatment process that will shift your consciousness. Each step is important, but what is most important is your feeling tone will praying because that helps you feel the deep connection with Spirit.
Visioning
Visioning is an intuitive process for opening your consciousness to receive Spirit's vision for your. You can cultivate it as part of your spiritual practice. Spirit’s life vision for you is one of wholeness, joy, prosperity creativity and generosity of heart. You can apply visioning to every aspect of your life be it — spiritual, professional, relational, communal and financial.
Source
There is only one source: God. Everything originates from it and returns to it. Sometimes one can be under the misconception that their job, money, status, etc. are their source or the source of the good in their lives. If you are experiencing separation in your life use Spiritual Mind Treatment to align yourself with the truth that all that you are, have and experienced is sourced by Spirit.
Self, The
"Our consciousness of God is our real self and at the same time it is both personal and impersonal. It is personal in that it is personified through us and it is impersonal in that we are all using a universal power." Ernest S. Sherlock Holmes
The Centers for Spiritual Living, or CSL, is a religious denomination promoting Religious Science that was founded by Ernest Holmes in 1949
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Spiritual_Living
http://guidancechurch.org/FAQ-links.html
Mental Science
The Science of Mind and Spirit. A systematic knowledge of the laws of the Mental and Spiritual World
Metaphysics
That which is beyond the known laws of physics
Prayer and Spiritual Mind Treatment
Affirmative prayer, or spiritual mind treatment, is a simple process. It asks us to pray knowing. This is the way Jesus of Nazareth and the Buddha prayer. When you pray believing that the prayer is already answered, it allows you to naturally, create what you desire. You’re allowing spiritual laws of this Universe to unfold in your life and create your highest good.
Spiritual Mind Treatment is when you use affirmative prayer to shift your below. Below, please find a step-by-step Prayer Treatment process that will shift your consciousness. Each step is important, but what is most important is your feeling tone will praying because that helps you feel the deep connection with Spirit.
Visioning
Visioning is an intuitive process for opening your consciousness to receive Spirit's vision for your. You can cultivate it as part of your spiritual practice. Spirit’s life vision for you is one of wholeness, joy, prosperity creativity and generosity of heart. You can apply visioning to every aspect of your life be it — spiritual, professional, relational, communal and financial.
Source
There is only one source: God. Everything originates from it and returns to it. Sometimes one can be under the misconception that their job, money, status, etc. are their source or the source of the good in their lives. If you are experiencing separation in your life use Spiritual Mind Treatment to align yourself with the truth that all that you are, have and experienced is sourced by Spirit.
Self, The
"Our consciousness of God is our real self and at the same time it is both personal and impersonal. It is personal in that it is personified through us and it is impersonal in that we are all using a universal power." Ernest S. Sherlock Holmes
The Centers for Spiritual Living, or CSL, is a religious denomination promoting Religious Science that was founded by Ernest Holmes in 1949
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Spiritual_Living
http://www.holmesinstitute.org/
15 October 2016 01:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Science of Mind is a book by Ernest Holmes. It proposes a science with a new relationship between humans and God. Holmes, the founder of Religious Science, originally published it in 1926. A revised version was completed by Holmes and Maude Allison Lathem and published in 1938.
Holmes' writing details how people can actively engage their mind in creating change throughout their lives. Explanations of how to pray and meditate, heal oneself spiritually, find self-confidence, and express love led Holmes to believe Religious Science is "a philosophy, a faith and a way of life.
The 1998 printing of The Science of Mind has six sections, including "The Nature of Being," "Spiritual Mind Healing (Ideation)," Spiritual Mind Healing (Practice)," "The Perfect Whole," "Teachings from the New Testament," and "Meditations."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Mind
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/528886/The-Science-of-Mind
Holmes' writing details how people can actively engage their mind in creating change throughout their lives. Explanations of how to pray and meditate, heal oneself spiritually, find self-confidence, and express love led Holmes to believe Religious Science is "a philosophy, a faith and a way of life.
The 1998 printing of The Science of Mind has six sections, including "The Nature of Being," "Spiritual Mind Healing (Ideation)," Spiritual Mind Healing (Practice)," "The Perfect Whole," "Teachings from the New Testament," and "Meditations."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Mind
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/528886/The-Science-of-Mind
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Mind
15 October 2016 01:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The DEAC was established in 1926 as the National Home Study Council (NHSC), a trade association for correspondence schools.
The Distance Education Accrediting Commission (DEAC), formerly known as the National Home Study Council and then as the Distance Education and Training Council, is a non-profit national educational accreditation agency in the United States specializing in the accreditation of (51 percent or more)[ ] distance education programs of study and institutions.
Its formation was in response to a Carnegie Corporation study that found a lack of standards to ensure quality in correspondence schools and protect their students and the public from fraud.[ Under its first director, John Noffsinger, the NHSC developed a list of minimum standards for proprietary schools. The NHSC adopted the name Distance Education and Training Council in 1994 and its current name in 2014.[2][4] Also in 2014, Dr. Leah Matthews, Chief Executive Officer and Executive Director of DEAC, wrote an article that attributes distance education learning vs. traditional learning in part, to constant changes in the education landscape. “Distance education institutions are uniquely positioned to meet the changing demands for enhanced technologies and higher education program delivery. Some view this as a threat to the traditional higher education model as opposed to a strategic opportunity. More than ever before, technology-enhanced learning has the potential to transform higher education accessibility and raise the level of education attained globally
In 1959 the NHSC was formally recognized by the U.S. Office of Education as an accreditor of higher education institutions. Currently the DEAC is recognized by Council for Higher Education Accreditation and the United States Department of Education as an accreditor of institutions of higher education. According to the DEAC, it is made up of over 100 distance education institutions located in 21 states and 7 countries. These institutions include non-profit institutions, trade associations, for-profit companies, colleges and universities, and military organizations.[6] The DEAC has strict criteria for approving schools for accreditation, and the process includes examining the schools' educational, ethical, and business practices.[7]
DEAC is recognized by the U.S. Department of Education and Council for Higher Education Accreditation that does satisfy the exact same acceptance, admission, and recognition standards as regional accreditors.
The DEAC provides accreditation for three branches of the United States military. The Marine Corps Institute and the Army Institute for Professional Development (ATIC-SDL) are listed as degree-granting institutions with the DEAC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distance_Education_Accrediting_Commission
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_accredited_by_DEAC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recognized_accreditation_associations_of_higher_learning
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_accreditation
The Distance Education Accrediting Commission (DEAC), formerly known as the National Home Study Council and then as the Distance Education and Training Council, is a non-profit national educational accreditation agency in the United States specializing in the accreditation of (51 percent or more)[ ] distance education programs of study and institutions.
Its formation was in response to a Carnegie Corporation study that found a lack of standards to ensure quality in correspondence schools and protect their students and the public from fraud.[ Under its first director, John Noffsinger, the NHSC developed a list of minimum standards for proprietary schools. The NHSC adopted the name Distance Education and Training Council in 1994 and its current name in 2014.[2][4] Also in 2014, Dr. Leah Matthews, Chief Executive Officer and Executive Director of DEAC, wrote an article that attributes distance education learning vs. traditional learning in part, to constant changes in the education landscape. “Distance education institutions are uniquely positioned to meet the changing demands for enhanced technologies and higher education program delivery. Some view this as a threat to the traditional higher education model as opposed to a strategic opportunity. More than ever before, technology-enhanced learning has the potential to transform higher education accessibility and raise the level of education attained globally
In 1959 the NHSC was formally recognized by the U.S. Office of Education as an accreditor of higher education institutions. Currently the DEAC is recognized by Council for Higher Education Accreditation and the United States Department of Education as an accreditor of institutions of higher education. According to the DEAC, it is made up of over 100 distance education institutions located in 21 states and 7 countries. These institutions include non-profit institutions, trade associations, for-profit companies, colleges and universities, and military organizations.[6] The DEAC has strict criteria for approving schools for accreditation, and the process includes examining the schools' educational, ethical, and business practices.[7]
DEAC is recognized by the U.S. Department of Education and Council for Higher Education Accreditation that does satisfy the exact same acceptance, admission, and recognition standards as regional accreditors.
The DEAC provides accreditation for three branches of the United States military. The Marine Corps Institute and the Army Institute for Professional Development (ATIC-SDL) are listed as degree-granting institutions with the DEAC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distance_Education_Accrediting_Commission
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_accredited_by_DEAC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recognized_accreditation_associations_of_higher_learning
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_accreditation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distance_Education_Accrediting_Commission
15 October 2016 01:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The organization has approximately 3,000 academic institutions as members, and currently recognizes approximately 60 accrediting organizations,
The Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) is a United States organization of degree-granting colleges and universities. It identifies its purpose as providing national advocacy for self-regulation of academic quality through accreditation in order to certify the quality of higher education accrediting organizations, including regional, faith-based, private, career, and programmatic accrediting organizations.
.[ CHEA is based in Washington, DC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_for_Higher_Education_Accreditation
Established in 1996, CHEA is the successor to several earlier national nongovernmental associations formed to coordinate the U.S. accreditation process for higher education. In 1974, the Federation of Regional Accrediting Commissions of Higher Education (FRACHE; an association of regional accreditors) and the National Commission on Accrediting (an association of specialized and national accreditation agencies) had merged to form the Council on Postsecondary Accreditation (COPA), which had the purpose of ensuring the quality of accreditation.
In 1993, COPA was dissolved because of tensions among the different types of accreditation agencies that formed its membership—ultimately the result of the increasing problems for higher education in the 1980s and 1990s.[3] Problems with tuition increases, scandals, and doubts about the value of postsecondary higher education plagued all parts of the higher education sector.[4]
In particular, Congressional investigations of soaring student loan defaults and student aid abuses were highly critical of the laxity of accreditation and accreditation processes.
The higher education community viewed with alarm the establishment of State Postsecondary Review Entities (SPREs), which were given accrediting powers under special conditions. "When campus lobbyists heard about the legislation and realized that non-governmental accreditation was being replaced by a federal-state agency evaluation of institutions, including assessments of academic quality never before carried out by government, they 'went apoplectic', as one observer put it.
Each accreditor recognized by CHEA is independent, which means that accreditation requirements vary from group to group. CHEA maintains a website that contains a searchable database to check the accreditation status of recognized accreditation agencies, accredited schools, or schools currently in the process of getting accreditation (i.e., "candidates" for accreditation).[14] CHEA's "user agreement for publications of the Council for Higher Education Accreditation" states that it does not guarantee that all accredited schools are listed in the database.
In 2012 Chea launched the Chea International Quality Group (CIQG) to advance understanding of international quality assurance and to promote high-quality higher education through international accreditation bodies worldwide.[15][16] The Chea International Quality Group (CIQG) provides a database of recognized accreditation agencies globally.[17] It's a non-profit, non-governmental association focused on U.S. and NON U.S. accreditation and higher education quality assurance worldwide
CHEA is led by a board of directors that consists of 20 members, including presidents of colleges and universities, other institutional representatives, and members of the public.[1] As of 2013, John E. Bassett, President of Heritage University, is the chair of the CHEA Board of Directors
(Founded in 1907 by the Sisters of the Holy Names of Jesus and Mary as Holy Names College)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_for_Higher_Education_Accreditation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritage_University
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recognized_accreditation_associations_of_higher_learning
The Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) is a United States organization of degree-granting colleges and universities. It identifies its purpose as providing national advocacy for self-regulation of academic quality through accreditation in order to certify the quality of higher education accrediting organizations, including regional, faith-based, private, career, and programmatic accrediting organizations.
.[ CHEA is based in Washington, DC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_for_Higher_Education_Accreditation
Established in 1996, CHEA is the successor to several earlier national nongovernmental associations formed to coordinate the U.S. accreditation process for higher education. In 1974, the Federation of Regional Accrediting Commissions of Higher Education (FRACHE; an association of regional accreditors) and the National Commission on Accrediting (an association of specialized and national accreditation agencies) had merged to form the Council on Postsecondary Accreditation (COPA), which had the purpose of ensuring the quality of accreditation.
In 1993, COPA was dissolved because of tensions among the different types of accreditation agencies that formed its membership—ultimately the result of the increasing problems for higher education in the 1980s and 1990s.[3] Problems with tuition increases, scandals, and doubts about the value of postsecondary higher education plagued all parts of the higher education sector.[4]
In particular, Congressional investigations of soaring student loan defaults and student aid abuses were highly critical of the laxity of accreditation and accreditation processes.
The higher education community viewed with alarm the establishment of State Postsecondary Review Entities (SPREs), which were given accrediting powers under special conditions. "When campus lobbyists heard about the legislation and realized that non-governmental accreditation was being replaced by a federal-state agency evaluation of institutions, including assessments of academic quality never before carried out by government, they 'went apoplectic', as one observer put it.
Each accreditor recognized by CHEA is independent, which means that accreditation requirements vary from group to group. CHEA maintains a website that contains a searchable database to check the accreditation status of recognized accreditation agencies, accredited schools, or schools currently in the process of getting accreditation (i.e., "candidates" for accreditation).[14] CHEA's "user agreement for publications of the Council for Higher Education Accreditation" states that it does not guarantee that all accredited schools are listed in the database.
In 2012 Chea launched the Chea International Quality Group (CIQG) to advance understanding of international quality assurance and to promote high-quality higher education through international accreditation bodies worldwide.[15][16] The Chea International Quality Group (CIQG) provides a database of recognized accreditation agencies globally.[17] It's a non-profit, non-governmental association focused on U.S. and NON U.S. accreditation and higher education quality assurance worldwide
CHEA is led by a board of directors that consists of 20 members, including presidents of colleges and universities, other institutional representatives, and members of the public.[1] As of 2013, John E. Bassett, President of Heritage University, is the chair of the CHEA Board of Directors
(Founded in 1907 by the Sisters of the Holy Names of Jesus and Mary as Holy Names College)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_for_Higher_Education_Accreditation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritage_University
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recognized_accreditation_associations_of_higher_learning
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_for_Higher_Education_Accreditation
15 October 2016 01:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Maybe the man who helped to put life in to the Plan
Plan International and College Access Plan
Akhay Kumar Mozumdar (July 15, 1864 – March 9, 1953) was an Indian-born spiritual leader who was associated with the New Thought Movement in the United States. He became a naturalised American in 1913. However, in 1919, in the wake of the Thind decision, Mozumdar became the first Indian to have his American citizenship stripped from him
In 1910, Mozumdar had just began to present a lecture on The Bhagavad Gita in Spokane, Washington when suddenly he left his podium and raced down the isle stopping in front of a man exclaiming, "Where have you been? What has kept you? I have been waiting for you." Mozumdar had come to America at the mandate of his own renowned Guru, the Master Arumda, with whom he had studied since the age of eight. After 25 years Arumda had informed his devoted disciple that his real dharma was to serve the ‘Great Plan’ in America.
When Mozumdar arrived in the United States he had immediately began looking for the one waiting for his teachings. He had known immediately where
Ralph M. de Bit was located as he explained to him later: ""I found you very soon. But it was two years before I could bring you out of your forests." According to DeBit's biographer, Richard Satriano, Forest Ranger DeBit had just left his job in the Bitter Root Mountains in Montana after being told by an unseen voice
"Come out of the woods to the city. Come out and begin your work."
Mozumdar and deBit remained together as student and teacher for nearly seven years. During that time Mozumdar bestowed upon the student he had traveled to the United States to find, the name of "Vitvan", Sanskrit for "one who knows." DeBit studied with his teacher, A K Mozumdar until 1918 when he began his own career as a lecturer and write
T/REACHING:
If man thinks and acts, is not the thinker and actor God? If God is all life, then all lives are God. The creative power is the very nature of the being of the Creator; hence the creative power is God. Life is the Creator, and will never be reduced to the level of its own creation. The creature will forever be ensouled with the creative activity, and move and act according to the inner impulse of the Creator. By thinking with the mind of the one life, you become conscious of being the thinker. At the back of your every action you should find yourself. You are spirit and therefore spiritual. The permanent substance is underneath all forms. The forms are made of the everlasting substance. This knowledge sets a man free "
While Mozumdar's teaching is popular ... it shows us what happens when a thinker immersed in Hindu lore completely accepts a world-affirming position. What happens is an identification of the Hindu conception of a divine universal Self with the Hebrew conception of a divine creative power. To Mozumdar the ultimate God is not uncreative bliss, as in the view of Sankara, but creative power, as in the Hebrew tradition. Yet this creative Power, he declares, is the same as the universal Self. Here the universal Self, we should note, is not a finite Ideal, as in Greek philosophy, but the infinite Substance of the world
Mozumdar was very close to several leaders in the International New Thought Alliance. Reverend Ernest Holmes, an American spiritual writer, teacher and founder of a Spiritual movement known as Religious Science, and author of "Science of Mind" was a close friend and admirer. Holmes officiated at Mozumdar's large and well attended memorial service
The Triumphant Spirit
The Conquering Man (also translated into Swedish by Eric O.G. Olson, Den segrande människan)
The Mystery of the Kingdom
The Commanding Life
"Christ on the Road of Today
Key to the New Messianic World Message
Christ Speaketh
Today and Tomorrow
Open Door to Heaven
The Life and the Way
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._K._Mozumdar
http://www.mozumdar.org/
http://www.sno.org/
http://www.vitvan.education/
Plan International and College Access Plan
Akhay Kumar Mozumdar (July 15, 1864 – March 9, 1953) was an Indian-born spiritual leader who was associated with the New Thought Movement in the United States. He became a naturalised American in 1913. However, in 1919, in the wake of the Thind decision, Mozumdar became the first Indian to have his American citizenship stripped from him
In 1910, Mozumdar had just began to present a lecture on The Bhagavad Gita in Spokane, Washington when suddenly he left his podium and raced down the isle stopping in front of a man exclaiming, "Where have you been? What has kept you? I have been waiting for you." Mozumdar had come to America at the mandate of his own renowned Guru, the Master Arumda, with whom he had studied since the age of eight. After 25 years Arumda had informed his devoted disciple that his real dharma was to serve the ‘Great Plan’ in America.
When Mozumdar arrived in the United States he had immediately began looking for the one waiting for his teachings. He had known immediately where
Ralph M. de Bit was located as he explained to him later: ""I found you very soon. But it was two years before I could bring you out of your forests." According to DeBit's biographer, Richard Satriano, Forest Ranger DeBit had just left his job in the Bitter Root Mountains in Montana after being told by an unseen voice
"Come out of the woods to the city. Come out and begin your work."
Mozumdar and deBit remained together as student and teacher for nearly seven years. During that time Mozumdar bestowed upon the student he had traveled to the United States to find, the name of "Vitvan", Sanskrit for "one who knows." DeBit studied with his teacher, A K Mozumdar until 1918 when he began his own career as a lecturer and write
T/REACHING:
If man thinks and acts, is not the thinker and actor God? If God is all life, then all lives are God. The creative power is the very nature of the being of the Creator; hence the creative power is God. Life is the Creator, and will never be reduced to the level of its own creation. The creature will forever be ensouled with the creative activity, and move and act according to the inner impulse of the Creator. By thinking with the mind of the one life, you become conscious of being the thinker. At the back of your every action you should find yourself. You are spirit and therefore spiritual. The permanent substance is underneath all forms. The forms are made of the everlasting substance. This knowledge sets a man free "
While Mozumdar's teaching is popular ... it shows us what happens when a thinker immersed in Hindu lore completely accepts a world-affirming position. What happens is an identification of the Hindu conception of a divine universal Self with the Hebrew conception of a divine creative power. To Mozumdar the ultimate God is not uncreative bliss, as in the view of Sankara, but creative power, as in the Hebrew tradition. Yet this creative Power, he declares, is the same as the universal Self. Here the universal Self, we should note, is not a finite Ideal, as in Greek philosophy, but the infinite Substance of the world
Mozumdar was very close to several leaders in the International New Thought Alliance. Reverend Ernest Holmes, an American spiritual writer, teacher and founder of a Spiritual movement known as Religious Science, and author of "Science of Mind" was a close friend and admirer. Holmes officiated at Mozumdar's large and well attended memorial service
The Triumphant Spirit
The Conquering Man (also translated into Swedish by Eric O.G. Olson, Den segrande människan)
The Mystery of the Kingdom
The Commanding Life
"Christ on the Road of Today
Key to the New Messianic World Message
Christ Speaketh
Today and Tomorrow
Open Door to Heaven
The Life and the Way
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._K._Mozumdar
http://www.mozumdar.org/
http://www.sno.org/
http://www.vitvan.education/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._K._Mozumdar
15 October 2016 00:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Fox's secretary was the mother of one of the men who worked with Alcoholics Anonymous co-founder Bill W., and partly as a result of this connection early AA groups often went to hear Fox. His writing, especially "The Sermon on the Mount," became popular in AA. Several pamphlets "The Golden Key," and "The Seven Main Aspects of God" are also widely read. Fox combined a precision of mind with a knowledge of the spirit
mmet Fox (July 30, 1886 – August 13, 1951) was a New Thought spiritual leader of the early 20th century, famous for his large Divine Science church services held in New York City during the Great Depression.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmet_Fox
mmet Fox (July 30, 1886 – August 13, 1951) was a New Thought spiritual leader of the early 20th century, famous for his large Divine Science church services held in New York City during the Great Depression.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmet_Fox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmet_Fox
15 October 2016 00:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Holmes originally authored the organization's primary statement in his 1927 book, The Science of Mind. It has been adapted as the organization's statement called, "What We Believe".[
We believe in God, the living Spirit Almighty; one, indestructible, absolute, and self-existent Cause. This One manifests Itself in and through all creation, but is not absorbed by Its creation. The manifest universe is the body of God; it is the logical and necessary outcome of the infinite self-knowingness of God.
We believe in the incarnation of the Spirit in US, and that all PEOPLE are incarnations of the One Spirit.
We believe in the eternality, the immortality, and the continuity of the individual soul, forever and ever expanding.
We believe that HEAVEN is within US, and that we experience IT to the degree that we become conscious of It.
We believe the ultimate goal of life to be a complete emancipation from all discord of every nature, and that this goal is sure to be attained by all.
We believe in the unity of all life, and that the highest God and the innermost God is one God. We believe that God is personal to all who feel this indwelling Presence.
We believe in the direct revelation of Truth through our intuitive and spiritual nature, and that ANYONE may become a revealer of Truth who lives in close contact with the indwelling God.
We believe that the Universal Spirit, which is God, operates through a Universal Mind, which is the Law of God; and that we are surrounded by this Creative Mind which receives the direct impress of our thought and acts upon it.
We believe in the healing of the sick through the power of this Mind.
We believe in the control of conditions through the power of this Mind.
We believe in the eternal Goodness, the eternal Loving-kindness, and the eternal Givingness of Life to all.
We believe in our own soul, our own spirit, and our own destiny; for we understand that OUR LIFE is God.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Mind
Prayer and Spiritual Mind Treatment
Affirmative prayer, or spiritual mind treatment, is a simple process. It asks us to pray knowing. This is the way Jesus of Nazareth and the Buddha prayer. When you pray believing that the prayer is already answered, it allows you to naturally, create what you desire. You’re allowing spiritual laws of this Universe to unfold in your life and create your highest good.
Spiritual Mind Treatment is when you use affirmative prayer to shift your below. Below, please find a step-by-step Prayer Treatment process that will shift your consciousness. Each step is important, but what is most important is your feeling tone will praying because that helps you feel the deep connection with Spirit.
Ask yourself, "What do I want? Then you can share your desire with Universal Intelligence as you pray. Think about the qualities of what you desire? If you had it, how would you feel? What would you do? Use all of your senses. For example, say you want to own a home in a better neighborhood. Imagine yourself living there. You might see relaxing colors on the walls, trees and lush lawns outside, kids playing peacefully. You might hear the sounds of nature and feel a soft breeze blowing. The desire for a new home translates into peace, freedom, abundance, love, and so on.
Recognition: This is the first part of your affirmative prayer when you start speaking aloud or silently. You remind yourself of the nature of Life/God/The Creater/Spirit. You might say, "Mother, Father God, I recognize that there is only God. That It is everywhere present as love, abundance, peace and sustenance."
Unification: This is where you remind yourself of your unrrevocable connection to God. And since God is everything. Then you are apart of this everything and therefore you are completely unified with all people, places and space. You might say, "God is I am. This is the greatest story about me. I am connected to God and the entire world. I can experience all of God’s good in and through me, including my new home."
Realization: This is where you affirmatively state that you realize that the thing you desire is already in your life. If you can desire it, imagine it, picture it, then it must exist in Mind/God [link to Terms, One Mind]. Otherwise where did this idea come from? In Religious Science there is a fundamental Unity. Throughout your prayer, keep affirming God’s nature as your own. When you have an inner feeling of "Yes" this is true, that’s when realization arrives. You might say, "I realize that God completely provides for my every want and highest God. I embrace my unlimited potential. I know without a doubt that a perfect home exists for me. I can feel and see this home…" If doubts arise, don’t ignore them. Treat them. That’s why this process is Spiritual Mind Treatment. Speak the truth about the fear and then speak the real truth. You might say, "I am afraid that my credit report is not good enough to qualify for a home or I don’t have all the resources I need to make this vision a reality. The truth is that God is always with me so I know that I am strong. Every resource is available to help me improve my credit now. God IS supply; God IS wealth, so there is nothing to fear...because God is right where I am."
Thanksgiving: It is important to express gratitude as if you have already received your desire. You might say, "I am completely grateful for God flowing in and through me as me. I am grateful for perfect sustenance operating in my life. Thanks be to God for my new home!"
Release: Since your desire is fulfilled, you can release it. This should result in peace and tranquility. Allow the Law to work through you and make your desire a reality. You might say, "I release this prayer into the Law knowing that it is done. And so it is. Amen.
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Holmes wrote The Science of Mind with the belief that he was summarizing the best of beliefs from around the world. His influences included
Thomas Troward, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Troward
Ralph Waldo Emerson, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Waldo_Emerson
Christian Larson, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_D._Larson
Phineas Quimby, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Quimby
and
Emma Curtis Hopkins. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Curtis_Hopkins
He was the founder of a Spiritual movement known as Religious Science, a part of the greater New Thought movement, whose spiritual philosophy is known as "The Science of Mind." He was the author of The Science of Mind and numerous other metaphysical books, and the founder of Science of Mind magazine, in continuous publication since 1927. His books remain in print, and the principles he taught as "Science of Mind" have inspired and influenced many generations of metaphysical students and teachers. Holmes had previously studied another New Thought teaching, Divine Science, and was an ordained Divine Science Minister.[ ] His influence beyond New Thought can be seen in the self-help movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Holmes
Throughout his career Holmes served as a Congregational Church minister and as the pastor of a Divine Science Church. He and his brother Ernest created Uplift Magazine, which he served as the editor, and later, he was the president of the International College of Mental Science.
Holmes wrote more than twenty books, lectured for fifty years around the world, and frequently spoke on radio and television.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenwicke_Holmes
In 1912 Holmes joined his brother Fenwicke in Venice, California. In addition to taking up a job with the city government, Holmes and his brother, a Congregationalist minister, studied the writings of
Thomas Troward, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Troward
Ralph Waldo Emerson, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Waldo_Emerson
William Walker Atkinson, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Walker_Atkinson and
Christian D. Larson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_D._Larson
Grayson appeared on a weekly television series airing in New York City called Creative Living. In 2005, he was referred to as "one of the foremost" Religious Science ministers.
Grayson's final bestseller Spiritual Healing: A Simple Guide for the Healing of Body, Mind, and Spirit had a great impact on New Thought
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Grayson
http://www.stuartgrayson.com/
Louise Lynn Hay (born October 8, 1926) is an American motivational author and the founder of Hay House
Hay House has published over 300 books and 450 audios from 130 authors.[ In 2010, Hay House set up its own independent publishing house called Balboa Press.
In 1976, Hay wrote her first book Heal Your Body, which began as a small pamphlet containing a list of different bodily ailments and their “probable” metaphysical causes
She was diagnosed with uncurable canser but outlived all the doctors wo diagnosed it, at age 90.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Hay
http://www.louisehay.com/ //or maybe she made some other deal, who knows. to investigate.
We believe in God, the living Spirit Almighty; one, indestructible, absolute, and self-existent Cause. This One manifests Itself in and through all creation, but is not absorbed by Its creation. The manifest universe is the body of God; it is the logical and necessary outcome of the infinite self-knowingness of God.
We believe in the incarnation of the Spirit in US, and that all PEOPLE are incarnations of the One Spirit.
We believe in the eternality, the immortality, and the continuity of the individual soul, forever and ever expanding.
We believe that HEAVEN is within US, and that we experience IT to the degree that we become conscious of It.
We believe the ultimate goal of life to be a complete emancipation from all discord of every nature, and that this goal is sure to be attained by all.
We believe in the unity of all life, and that the highest God and the innermost God is one God. We believe that God is personal to all who feel this indwelling Presence.
We believe in the direct revelation of Truth through our intuitive and spiritual nature, and that ANYONE may become a revealer of Truth who lives in close contact with the indwelling God.
We believe that the Universal Spirit, which is God, operates through a Universal Mind, which is the Law of God; and that we are surrounded by this Creative Mind which receives the direct impress of our thought and acts upon it.
We believe in the healing of the sick through the power of this Mind.
We believe in the control of conditions through the power of this Mind.
We believe in the eternal Goodness, the eternal Loving-kindness, and the eternal Givingness of Life to all.
We believe in our own soul, our own spirit, and our own destiny; for we understand that OUR LIFE is God.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Mind
Prayer and Spiritual Mind Treatment
Affirmative prayer, or spiritual mind treatment, is a simple process. It asks us to pray knowing. This is the way Jesus of Nazareth and the Buddha prayer. When you pray believing that the prayer is already answered, it allows you to naturally, create what you desire. You’re allowing spiritual laws of this Universe to unfold in your life and create your highest good.
Spiritual Mind Treatment is when you use affirmative prayer to shift your below. Below, please find a step-by-step Prayer Treatment process that will shift your consciousness. Each step is important, but what is most important is your feeling tone will praying because that helps you feel the deep connection with Spirit.
Ask yourself, "What do I want? Then you can share your desire with Universal Intelligence as you pray. Think about the qualities of what you desire? If you had it, how would you feel? What would you do? Use all of your senses. For example, say you want to own a home in a better neighborhood. Imagine yourself living there. You might see relaxing colors on the walls, trees and lush lawns outside, kids playing peacefully. You might hear the sounds of nature and feel a soft breeze blowing. The desire for a new home translates into peace, freedom, abundance, love, and so on.
Recognition: This is the first part of your affirmative prayer when you start speaking aloud or silently. You remind yourself of the nature of Life/God/The Creater/Spirit. You might say, "Mother, Father God, I recognize that there is only God. That It is everywhere present as love, abundance, peace and sustenance."
Unification: This is where you remind yourself of your unrrevocable connection to God. And since God is everything. Then you are apart of this everything and therefore you are completely unified with all people, places and space. You might say, "God is I am. This is the greatest story about me. I am connected to God and the entire world. I can experience all of God’s good in and through me, including my new home."
Realization: This is where you affirmatively state that you realize that the thing you desire is already in your life. If you can desire it, imagine it, picture it, then it must exist in Mind/God [link to Terms, One Mind]. Otherwise where did this idea come from? In Religious Science there is a fundamental Unity. Throughout your prayer, keep affirming God’s nature as your own. When you have an inner feeling of "Yes" this is true, that’s when realization arrives. You might say, "I realize that God completely provides for my every want and highest God. I embrace my unlimited potential. I know without a doubt that a perfect home exists for me. I can feel and see this home…" If doubts arise, don’t ignore them. Treat them. That’s why this process is Spiritual Mind Treatment. Speak the truth about the fear and then speak the real truth. You might say, "I am afraid that my credit report is not good enough to qualify for a home or I don’t have all the resources I need to make this vision a reality. The truth is that God is always with me so I know that I am strong. Every resource is available to help me improve my credit now. God IS supply; God IS wealth, so there is nothing to fear...because God is right where I am."
Thanksgiving: It is important to express gratitude as if you have already received your desire. You might say, "I am completely grateful for God flowing in and through me as me. I am grateful for perfect sustenance operating in my life. Thanks be to God for my new home!"
Release: Since your desire is fulfilled, you can release it. This should result in peace and tranquility. Allow the Law to work through you and make your desire a reality. You might say, "I release this prayer into the Law knowing that it is done. And so it is. Amen.
---
Holmes wrote The Science of Mind with the belief that he was summarizing the best of beliefs from around the world. His influences included
Thomas Troward, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Troward
Ralph Waldo Emerson, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Waldo_Emerson
Christian Larson, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_D._Larson
Phineas Quimby, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Quimby
and
Emma Curtis Hopkins. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Curtis_Hopkins
He was the founder of a Spiritual movement known as Religious Science, a part of the greater New Thought movement, whose spiritual philosophy is known as "The Science of Mind." He was the author of The Science of Mind and numerous other metaphysical books, and the founder of Science of Mind magazine, in continuous publication since 1927. His books remain in print, and the principles he taught as "Science of Mind" have inspired and influenced many generations of metaphysical students and teachers. Holmes had previously studied another New Thought teaching, Divine Science, and was an ordained Divine Science Minister.[ ] His influence beyond New Thought can be seen in the self-help movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Holmes
Throughout his career Holmes served as a Congregational Church minister and as the pastor of a Divine Science Church. He and his brother Ernest created Uplift Magazine, which he served as the editor, and later, he was the president of the International College of Mental Science.
Holmes wrote more than twenty books, lectured for fifty years around the world, and frequently spoke on radio and television.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenwicke_Holmes
In 1912 Holmes joined his brother Fenwicke in Venice, California. In addition to taking up a job with the city government, Holmes and his brother, a Congregationalist minister, studied the writings of
Thomas Troward, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Troward
Ralph Waldo Emerson, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Waldo_Emerson
William Walker Atkinson, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Walker_Atkinson and
Christian D. Larson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_D._Larson
Grayson appeared on a weekly television series airing in New York City called Creative Living. In 2005, he was referred to as "one of the foremost" Religious Science ministers.
Grayson's final bestseller Spiritual Healing: A Simple Guide for the Healing of Body, Mind, and Spirit had a great impact on New Thought
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Grayson
http://www.stuartgrayson.com/
Louise Lynn Hay (born October 8, 1926) is an American motivational author and the founder of Hay House
Hay House has published over 300 books and 450 audios from 130 authors.[ In 2010, Hay House set up its own independent publishing house called Balboa Press.
In 1976, Hay wrote her first book Heal Your Body, which began as a small pamphlet containing a list of different bodily ailments and their “probable” metaphysical causes
She was diagnosed with uncurable canser but outlived all the doctors wo diagnosed it, at age 90.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Hay
http://www.louisehay.com/ //or maybe she made some other deal, who knows. to investigate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Science_of_Mind
15 October 2016 00:11
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Origin 1949
Separated from Religious Science International
Merger of United Centers for Spiritual Living and International Centers for Spiritual Living, 2011
Congregations 400
The Centers for Spiritual Living, or CSL, is a religious denomination promoting Religious Science that was founded by Ernest Holmes in 1949. Before 2011, it was two organizations known as United Centers for Spiritual Living (formally, United Church of Religious Science) and International Centers for Spiritual Living (formally, Religious Science International).
Holmes and his brother Fenwicke learned about New Thought in Boston with Mary Baker Eddy, and later in Los Angeles were drawn to the belief in the power of the mind for healing and fulfillment of life. In 1926, Holmes's major work, The Science of Mind, was published, and in 1927 he founded the Institute of Religious Science and Philosophy in Los Angeles to teach his principles. After a growing number of the Institute's graduates established churches on teachings by Holmes, it was reorganized in 1949 as the Church of Religious Science. In the 1950s it split into two organizations that were originally called the United Church of Religious Science and Religious Science International.
Integration ]
The International Centers for Spiritual Living and United Centers for Spiritual Living reunited in 2011 after more than 50 years apart. After an eight-year process, the two organizations used a shared leadership model including nearly 400 volunteers
In 2012 the newly merged Centers for Spiritual Living, elected Dr. Kenn Gordon as its first Spiritual Leader, having served in numerous capacities on the board of directors, including President of the former International Centers for Spiritual Living since 1999. In 2005 he was named Minister of the Year and received his Doctorate of Humanities. Dr. Kenn, along with wife Dr. Deborah Gordon, pastors the Centre for Spiritual Living Kelowna
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Spiritual_Living
Official website www.centersforspiritualliving.org
http://www.cslkelowna.org/
Separated from Religious Science International
Merger of United Centers for Spiritual Living and International Centers for Spiritual Living, 2011
Congregations 400
The Centers for Spiritual Living, or CSL, is a religious denomination promoting Religious Science that was founded by Ernest Holmes in 1949. Before 2011, it was two organizations known as United Centers for Spiritual Living (formally, United Church of Religious Science) and International Centers for Spiritual Living (formally, Religious Science International).
Holmes and his brother Fenwicke learned about New Thought in Boston with Mary Baker Eddy, and later in Los Angeles were drawn to the belief in the power of the mind for healing and fulfillment of life. In 1926, Holmes's major work, The Science of Mind, was published, and in 1927 he founded the Institute of Religious Science and Philosophy in Los Angeles to teach his principles. After a growing number of the Institute's graduates established churches on teachings by Holmes, it was reorganized in 1949 as the Church of Religious Science. In the 1950s it split into two organizations that were originally called the United Church of Religious Science and Religious Science International.
Integration ]
The International Centers for Spiritual Living and United Centers for Spiritual Living reunited in 2011 after more than 50 years apart. After an eight-year process, the two organizations used a shared leadership model including nearly 400 volunteers
In 2012 the newly merged Centers for Spiritual Living, elected Dr. Kenn Gordon as its first Spiritual Leader, having served in numerous capacities on the board of directors, including President of the former International Centers for Spiritual Living since 1999. In 2005 he was named Minister of the Year and received his Doctorate of Humanities. Dr. Kenn, along with wife Dr. Deborah Gordon, pastors the Centre for Spiritual Living Kelowna
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Spiritual_Living
Official website www.centersforspiritualliving.org
http://www.cslkelowna.org/
15 October 2016 00:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Science of Mind was established in 1927 by Ernest Holmes (1887–1960) and is a spiritual, philosophical and metaphysical religious movement within the New Thought movement. In general, the term "Science of Mind" applies to the teachings, while the term "Religious Science" applies to the organizations. However, adherents often use the terms interchangeably.
In his book, The Science of Mind, Ernest Holmes stated "Religious Science is a correlation of laws of science, opinions of philosophy, and revelations of religion applied to human needs and the aspirations of man." He also stated that Religious Science/Science of Mind (RS/SOM) is not based on any "authority" of established beliefs, but rather on "what it can accomplish" for the people who practice it.[1] Today the International Centers for Spiritual Living, the United Centers for Spiritual Living (which combined into the Centers for Spiritual Living in 2011) and Global Religious Science Ministries are the main denominations promoting Religious Science
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Science
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Science_International
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Centers_for_Spiritual_Living
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Religious_Science_Ministries
In his book, The Science of Mind, Ernest Holmes stated "Religious Science is a correlation of laws of science, opinions of philosophy, and revelations of religion applied to human needs and the aspirations of man." He also stated that Religious Science/Science of Mind (RS/SOM) is not based on any "authority" of established beliefs, but rather on "what it can accomplish" for the people who practice it.[1] Today the International Centers for Spiritual Living, the United Centers for Spiritual Living (which combined into the Centers for Spiritual Living in 2011) and Global Religious Science Ministries are the main denominations promoting Religious Science
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Science
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Science_International
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Centers_for_Spiritual_Living
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Religious_Science_Ministries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Science
15 October 2016 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Unity, known informally as Unity Church, is a spiritual philosophical movement within the wider New Thought movement and is best known to many through its Daily Word devotional publication. It describes itself as a "positive, practical Christianity" which "teach[es] the effective daily application of the principles of Truth taught and exemplified by Jesus Christ" and promotes "a way of life that leads to health, prosperity, happiness, and peace of mind."
Most ministries that teach the principles of Unity are also members of Unity Worldwide Ministries, numbering in excess of 500 spiritual communities in the US. Unity Worldwide Ministries also supports Unity Worldwide Spiritual Institute, its on-line, interactive spiritual education facility that offers adult education and leadership credentialing curricula to learners worldwide.
Unity describes itself as having no particular creed, no set dogma, and no required ritual. It maintains that there is good in every approach to God and in every religion that is fulfilling someone's needs.[ It holds that one should not focus on past sins but on the potential good in all.[7]
Unity emphasizes spiritual healing, prosperity and practical Christianity in its teachings. Illness is considered to be curable by spiritual means, but Unity does not reject or resist medical treatments.[2] Unity is accepting of the beliefs of others.
Churches fall under the auspices of Unity Worldwide Ministries although each church is autonomous in its practices.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_Church
For the location of its ministries near you, visit http://www.unityworldwideministries.org/find-church. For a list of the courses presently being offered, visit http://uwsi.org
Most ministries that teach the principles of Unity are also members of Unity Worldwide Ministries, numbering in excess of 500 spiritual communities in the US. Unity Worldwide Ministries also supports Unity Worldwide Spiritual Institute, its on-line, interactive spiritual education facility that offers adult education and leadership credentialing curricula to learners worldwide.
Unity describes itself as having no particular creed, no set dogma, and no required ritual. It maintains that there is good in every approach to God and in every religion that is fulfilling someone's needs.[ It holds that one should not focus on past sins but on the potential good in all.[7]
Unity emphasizes spiritual healing, prosperity and practical Christianity in its teachings. Illness is considered to be curable by spiritual means, but Unity does not reject or resist medical treatments.[2] Unity is accepting of the beliefs of others.
Churches fall under the auspices of Unity Worldwide Ministries although each church is autonomous in its practices.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_Church
For the location of its ministries near you, visit http://www.unityworldwideministries.org/find-church. For a list of the courses presently being offered, visit http://uwsi.org
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_Church
15 October 2016 00:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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The Association for Global New Thought, or AGNT, is an organization of ministers, lay people, heads of other New Thought organizations, and people of all faiths dedicated to "conscious co-creation". Its New Thought member churches and centers number between 600 and 700, and include Unity churches, Religious Science, Divine Science centers, and nondenominational New Thought spiritual communities.
The Association for Global New Thought was formed after, "a leadership struggle in 1996 resulted in a number of influential leaders leaving INTA (International New Thought Alliance) to form the Association for Global New Thought."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_for_Global_New_Thought
http://www.agnt.org/
The Association for Global New Thought, or AGNT, is an organization of ministers, lay people, heads of other New Thought organizations, and people of all faiths dedicated to "conscious co-creation". Its New Thought member churches and centers number between 600 and 700, and include Unity churches, Religious Science, Divine Science centers, and nondenominational New Thought spiritual communities.
The Association for Global New Thought was formed after, "a leadership struggle in 1996 resulted in a number of influential leaders leaving INTA (International New Thought Alliance) to form the Association for Global New Thought."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_for_Global_New_Thought
http://www.agnt.org/
14 October 2016 23:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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The antecedents of the International New Thought Alliance date back to an 1899 New England convention of the Metaphysical Club, one of the first New Thought organizations, formed in Boston, Massachusetts in 1895 by, among others, L. B. Macdonald, J. W. Lindy and Frederick Reed.
The first public lecture sponsored by the club was an address by Julia Ward Howe. This convention led to the founding of the International Metaphysical League the following year.
This League held the "International New Thought Convention" in Chicago in 1903, which was followed by similar conventions , the organization was renamed the "National New Thought Alliance"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_New_Thought_Alliance
The antecedents of the International New Thought Alliance date back to an 1899 New England convention of the Metaphysical Club, one of the first New Thought organizations, formed in Boston, Massachusetts in 1895 by, among others, L. B. Macdonald, J. W. Lindy and Frederick Reed.
The first public lecture sponsored by the club was an address by Julia Ward Howe. This convention led to the founding of the International Metaphysical League the following year.
This League held the "International New Thought Convention" in Chicago in 1903, which was followed by similar conventions , the organization was renamed the "National New Thought Alliance"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_New_Thought_Alliance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_New_Thought_Alliance
14 October 2016 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Thought
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Thought
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Thought
14 October 2016 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_(book)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_(book)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_(book)
14 October 2016 23:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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www.thesecret.tv/products/the-secret-book/
www.thesecret.tv/products/the-secret-book/
http://www.thesecret.tv/products/the-secret-book/
14 October 2016 23:38
Margus Meigo replied to David Dickson's comment.
Thank You David!
14 October 2016 22:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//well, just a public ones, .. but if we add up a friends and the ones who are agreed to make a service or who own money.. the nthis power network will be much larger
Donald Trump is one of the most well-known real estate moguls in the world, and thanks to years of making lucrative deals, he has amassed an impressive net worth of an estimated $3.9 billion. (For greater insights on Trump's net worth, see: Donald Trump's Real Net Worth: $3.9 Billion.) The Trump Organization LLC acts as the primary holding company for Trump's array of companies and is his main source of wealth. Here is a breakdown of Trump's businesses and brands under the Trump Organization umbrella.
http://www.investopedia.com/updates/donald-trump-companies/
Donald Trump is one of the most well-known real estate moguls in the world, and thanks to years of making lucrative deals, he has amassed an impressive net worth of an estimated $3.9 billion. (For greater insights on Trump's net worth, see: Donald Trump's Real Net Worth: $3.9 Billion.) The Trump Organization LLC acts as the primary holding company for Trump's array of companies and is his main source of wealth. Here is a breakdown of Trump's businesses and brands under the Trump Organization umbrella.
http://www.investopedia.com/updates/donald-trump-companies/
14 October 2016 01:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.// actually there is not much in here
Vanity Fair Reports That There Already Are Plans to Create ‘Trump TV’
rump’s Spokesperson Initially Denied the Story
Trump Hinted at a Future in Cable News on Twitter
Trump Reportedly Is Upset That Media Networks Have Been Able to Monetize His Candidacy
http://heavy.com/news/2016/06/is-donald-trump-launching-his-own-tv-network/
Vanity Fair Reports That There Already Are Plans to Create ‘Trump TV’
rump’s Spokesperson Initially Denied the Story
Trump Hinted at a Future in Cable News on Twitter
Trump Reportedly Is Upset That Media Networks Have Been Able to Monetize His Candidacy
http://heavy.com/news/2016/06/is-donald-trump-launching-his-own-tv-network/
http://heavy.com/news/2016/06/is-donald-trump-launching-his-own-tv-network/
14 October 2016 01:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// and from ehre we and up in..
http://www.recode.net/2016/10/12/13248578/donald-trump-news-network-ott-service-cable-fox
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/08/08/trumpism-media-fascist-fox-news-newspapers-television-showman-business-column/88001176/
he’s running in anticipation of launching a new right-wing news network, likely a digital, over-the-top network — one that could rival or even supplant Fox News.
When Fox News emerged in 1996, cable television was at its zenith. More and more homes were signing up for ever more channels. Fox correctly identified that there was a large audience of conservative-leaning Americans who weren’t getting served by any of the news networks. They consumed their news media through talk radio. Fox News has since risen to the top of the cable news pile in both ratings and revenues.
Over the last 10 years, however, the internet has begun to eat TV ratings. We’ve seen monumental shifts in entertainment consumption, with YouTube garnering more viewership in primetime than the Top 10 TV shows combined, and stalwarts like ESPN facing a decline in subscribers for the first time in their history. It’s evident that the decline isn’t due to a lack of interest in sports. It’s that sports are available more frequently and efficiently via a mobile device and the internet. It’s an issue Disney is addressing.
http://www.recode.net/2016/10/12/13248578/donald-trump-news-network-ott-service-cable-fox
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/08/08/trumpism-media-fascist-fox-news-newspapers-television-showman-business-column/88001176/
he’s running in anticipation of launching a new right-wing news network, likely a digital, over-the-top network — one that could rival or even supplant Fox News.
When Fox News emerged in 1996, cable television was at its zenith. More and more homes were signing up for ever more channels. Fox correctly identified that there was a large audience of conservative-leaning Americans who weren’t getting served by any of the news networks. They consumed their news media through talk radio. Fox News has since risen to the top of the cable news pile in both ratings and revenues.
Over the last 10 years, however, the internet has begun to eat TV ratings. We’ve seen monumental shifts in entertainment consumption, with YouTube garnering more viewership in primetime than the Top 10 TV shows combined, and stalwarts like ESPN facing a decline in subscribers for the first time in their history. It’s evident that the decline isn’t due to a lack of interest in sports. It’s that sports are available more frequently and efficiently via a mobile device and the internet. It’s an issue Disney is addressing.
14 October 2016 01:29
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"And I think the danger both among Republicans and among Democrats who just listen to each other or they just listen to people that already agree with them -- you know, Republicans have their own TV station," he noted.
"Go ahead," Wallace interrupted. "You can say Fox News."
"They've got their own publications, their own blogs," the president continued. "Democrats, same thing. Increasingly what happens is, we don't hear each other. And so what happens then is when Republicans promise to repeal Obamacare and it doesn't get repealed, they're outraged."
http://crooksandliars.com/2016/04/obama-explains-trumps-rise-fox
"Go ahead," Wallace interrupted. "You can say Fox News."
"They've got their own publications, their own blogs," the president continued. "Democrats, same thing. Increasingly what happens is, we don't hear each other. And so what happens then is when Republicans promise to repeal Obamacare and it doesn't get repealed, they're outraged."
http://crooksandliars.com/2016/04/obama-explains-trumps-rise-fox
http://crooksandliars.com/2016/04/obama-explains-trumps-rise-fox
14 October 2016 01:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Simple another known view:
"Here's an inconvenient truth about Donald Trump: regardless of his electoral viability, he's completely owning the mainstream media. It's really not a contest. The formula for Trump's media dominance is simple: Donald Trump says something legitimately crazy, and the news media is forced to react to his every move, because they don't own as much of Trump's audience as they used to. When Trump wanted to share racist statistics on crime that were conjured by white supremacists, he clicked a button, and those ideas reached his audience without the say of an editor. And when he was then challenged by the media on those statistics, Trump basically said "what is a retweet, really," and went about his day. (The thoroughly debunked tweet is still in Trump's timeline.)
Part of Trump's success in reaching lots of people is definitely based on his style of racial dog-whistle politics and inexhaustible one-upsmanship; if you ask Trump any question, let's say it's about border walls, he is prone to respond by saying we need a lot of border walls — in fact, he's going to be the best thing that ever happened to walls, and you'll never see a wall more beautiful than the one he's going to build. The media is going to cover those remarks every time, because they are truly incredible. But he's also successful because the same platforms the tech industry has ushered in as great democratizing forces are subject to most of the traditional power dynamics they purport to disrupt.
*
Twitter, Facebook, and other platforms which are ostensibly neutral, allow Trump to seize the means of media distribution, and leverage them against the traditional media gatekeepers. That leverage is real: the five leading television networks have been working together to fight back against Trump's contemptuous posture. It is not clear they will be successful.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/2/9836848/donald-trump-periscope-vs-mainstream-media-tv
"Here's an inconvenient truth about Donald Trump: regardless of his electoral viability, he's completely owning the mainstream media. It's really not a contest. The formula for Trump's media dominance is simple: Donald Trump says something legitimately crazy, and the news media is forced to react to his every move, because they don't own as much of Trump's audience as they used to. When Trump wanted to share racist statistics on crime that were conjured by white supremacists, he clicked a button, and those ideas reached his audience without the say of an editor. And when he was then challenged by the media on those statistics, Trump basically said "what is a retweet, really," and went about his day. (The thoroughly debunked tweet is still in Trump's timeline.)
Part of Trump's success in reaching lots of people is definitely based on his style of racial dog-whistle politics and inexhaustible one-upsmanship; if you ask Trump any question, let's say it's about border walls, he is prone to respond by saying we need a lot of border walls — in fact, he's going to be the best thing that ever happened to walls, and you'll never see a wall more beautiful than the one he's going to build. The media is going to cover those remarks every time, because they are truly incredible. But he's also successful because the same platforms the tech industry has ushered in as great democratizing forces are subject to most of the traditional power dynamics they purport to disrupt.
*
Twitter, Facebook, and other platforms which are ostensibly neutral, allow Trump to seize the means of media distribution, and leverage them against the traditional media gatekeepers. That leverage is real: the five leading television networks have been working together to fight back against Trump's contemptuous posture. It is not clear they will be successful.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/2/9836848/donald-trump-periscope-vs-mainstream-media-tv
http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/2/9836848/donald-trump-periscope-vs-mainstream-media-tv
14 October 2016 01:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lol "Trump’s campaign claimed they did not know the interview was to be aired on the Russian network. A spokesperson told the Post, “Mr. Trump recorded a short interview with Larry King for his podcast as a favor to Mr. King. What Larry King does with the interview content is up to him; we have nothing to do with it.
British politician Nigel Farage, who appeared onstage with Trump in August, makes regular guest appearances and was recently offered his own television show on RT, according to media reports.
// Nigel is one of the most dangerous kind of communists you can imagine.. in public.
There is another ones whit more brain who are dangerous in actual another level, but he is just public moth of destroying the voice of reason
http://time.com/4485153/donald-trump-russian-television-network-rt/
British politician Nigel Farage, who appeared onstage with Trump in August, makes regular guest appearances and was recently offered his own television show on RT, according to media reports.
// Nigel is one of the most dangerous kind of communists you can imagine.. in public.
There is another ones whit more brain who are dangerous in actual another level, but he is just public moth of destroying the voice of reason
http://time.com/4485153/donald-trump-russian-television-network-rt/
http://time.com/4485153/donald-trump-russian-television-network-rt/
14 October 2016 01:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Hillary was just endorsed by the Communist Party of America."
Well.. who they should do it to publicly then ?
Besides, it is also, in a form of attack.
If criminal want to attack you, harm you, they can also say you their friend, ... and then let others to attack you, old tactic.
but besides working like that, for sure there is many, inside there who thinks it is their line
Well.. who they should do it to publicly then ?
Besides, it is also, in a form of attack.
If criminal want to attack you, harm you, they can also say you their friend, ... and then let others to attack you, old tactic.
but besides working like that, for sure there is many, inside there who thinks it is their line
14 October 2016 01:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
at same time:
" Hillary’s hacked emails may have led to the discovery and execution of an Iranian scientist helping the U.S. His name was prominently mentioned in Hillary’s hacked emails that undoubtedly ended up in the hands of our enemies. Yet we hear not a word from NBC News.
Hillary’s hacked emails may have led to the discovery and murder of Libya Ambassador Chris Stevens and those 3 American heroes at Benghazi. Hillary’s hacked emails gave up his location.
It appears I’m not the only one to think so. Hillary is now being sued by the parents of the dead Benghazi heroes for this gross negligence. Yet we hear not a word from NBC News. They did plenty of reporting about the one Muslim gold star father, but virtually zero coverage of the parents of dead Benghazi heroes. Donald had harsh words. Hillary lied to the parents’ faces with their children’s caskets lying nearby. Her actions may have led to their deaths. Still NBC says nothing.
Hillary’s hacked emails show the Clinton Foundation is one big extortion racket that involved “pay for play.” Those who donated to the infamous Clinton Foundation immediately got high-level access and contracts from Hillary’s State Department. Folks this is treason – pure and simple. Yet we hear not a word from NBC News. "
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/08/10/nbc-news-owned-hillary-clinton/
" Hillary’s hacked emails may have led to the discovery and execution of an Iranian scientist helping the U.S. His name was prominently mentioned in Hillary’s hacked emails that undoubtedly ended up in the hands of our enemies. Yet we hear not a word from NBC News.
Hillary’s hacked emails may have led to the discovery and murder of Libya Ambassador Chris Stevens and those 3 American heroes at Benghazi. Hillary’s hacked emails gave up his location.
It appears I’m not the only one to think so. Hillary is now being sued by the parents of the dead Benghazi heroes for this gross negligence. Yet we hear not a word from NBC News. They did plenty of reporting about the one Muslim gold star father, but virtually zero coverage of the parents of dead Benghazi heroes. Donald had harsh words. Hillary lied to the parents’ faces with their children’s caskets lying nearby. Her actions may have led to their deaths. Still NBC says nothing.
Hillary’s hacked emails show the Clinton Foundation is one big extortion racket that involved “pay for play.” Those who donated to the infamous Clinton Foundation immediately got high-level access and contracts from Hillary’s State Department. Folks this is treason – pure and simple. Yet we hear not a word from NBC News. "
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/08/10/nbc-news-owned-hillary-clinton/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/08/10/nbc-news-owned-hillary-clinton/
14 October 2016 01:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But then again... on Change of reality..
"litical and media world seemed shocked this week when Megyn Kelly sat down for a warm interview with Donald Trump. She tossed him velvety soft questions like, "When did you realize you could be president?", sought to discover whether anyone had ever "hurt [him] emotionally," and peppered him with hard-hitting queries on his favorite book and movie. Kelly can of course do any kind of interview she likes, but it's as good a marker as any that Fox News is now thoroughly behind Donald Trump's candidacy for the White House.
If you've watched the network up until now, you might not have been so sure. But when you understand the function Fox serves for the conservative movement and the Republican Party, you realize that they had to be tough on Trump — at least a little, and at least for a while.
That's because in a presidential primary, it's part of Fox's job to vet the Republican candidates — testing them, probing them, and seeing how they stand up to pressure. That's why it was more than appropriate to have Fox anchors moderating primary debates, where on occasion they were quite tough.
Fox has always been more partisan than ideological: Its hosts certainly advocate for conservative ideas, but its political lodestar is the interests of the Republican Party. And it's the great genius of Roger Ailes, the network's chief for the two decades since it was founded, that he has been able to simultaneously serve both the GOP's interests and the goal of making gobs of money.
"If you're a conservative it's where you can go not only to get validation for your beliefs, but also to learn what your leaders want you to know: what issues are important; the key reasons Democrats are wrong about everything; and perhaps most critically, what you're supposed to be angry about.
http://theweek.com/articles/625308/fox-news-now-completely-devoted-donald-trump
Also : http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2016/03/16/fox-news-channel-donald-trump-enablers/
"litical and media world seemed shocked this week when Megyn Kelly sat down for a warm interview with Donald Trump. She tossed him velvety soft questions like, "When did you realize you could be president?", sought to discover whether anyone had ever "hurt [him] emotionally," and peppered him with hard-hitting queries on his favorite book and movie. Kelly can of course do any kind of interview she likes, but it's as good a marker as any that Fox News is now thoroughly behind Donald Trump's candidacy for the White House.
If you've watched the network up until now, you might not have been so sure. But when you understand the function Fox serves for the conservative movement and the Republican Party, you realize that they had to be tough on Trump — at least a little, and at least for a while.
That's because in a presidential primary, it's part of Fox's job to vet the Republican candidates — testing them, probing them, and seeing how they stand up to pressure. That's why it was more than appropriate to have Fox anchors moderating primary debates, where on occasion they were quite tough.
Fox has always been more partisan than ideological: Its hosts certainly advocate for conservative ideas, but its political lodestar is the interests of the Republican Party. And it's the great genius of Roger Ailes, the network's chief for the two decades since it was founded, that he has been able to simultaneously serve both the GOP's interests and the goal of making gobs of money.
"If you're a conservative it's where you can go not only to get validation for your beliefs, but also to learn what your leaders want you to know: what issues are important; the key reasons Democrats are wrong about everything; and perhaps most critically, what you're supposed to be angry about.
http://theweek.com/articles/625308/fox-news-now-completely-devoted-donald-trump
Also : http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2016/03/16/fox-news-channel-donald-trump-enablers/
http://theweek.com/articles/625308/fox-news-now-completely-devoted-donald-trump
14 October 2016 01:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
More professional piece of writing on similar topics
"Murdoch was very anti-Trump and told Ailes to tone down the Trump coverage because of this. In recent weeks, Murdoch has warmed to a Trump candidacy, mainly because he sees how enduring Trump’s power is. And if there is one thing we know about Rupert Murdoch it is that he will make concessions to power if it will advance his business interests. He made a pact in the 1990s with Tony Blair even though he was a Thatcherite. He sees that Trump may be the nominee and could be the next president and so he wants to figure out how to deal with this guy.
But again, the ideological issue is immigration, and Fox has generally been more favorable towards comprehensive immigration reform. And this is the case even though, in private, Roger Ailes, as I reported in my book, is completely in sync with Trump on the need for extreme border protection. He wanted Navy Seals on the border with orders to shoot people trying to cross illegally. But because Murdoch has been exerting himself more, he can’t put all that on the airwaves."
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/interrogation/2016/01/gabe_sherman_on_how_donald_trump_has_rattled_roger_ailes_and_fox_news.html
"Murdoch was very anti-Trump and told Ailes to tone down the Trump coverage because of this. In recent weeks, Murdoch has warmed to a Trump candidacy, mainly because he sees how enduring Trump’s power is. And if there is one thing we know about Rupert Murdoch it is that he will make concessions to power if it will advance his business interests. He made a pact in the 1990s with Tony Blair even though he was a Thatcherite. He sees that Trump may be the nominee and could be the next president and so he wants to figure out how to deal with this guy.
But again, the ideological issue is immigration, and Fox has generally been more favorable towards comprehensive immigration reform. And this is the case even though, in private, Roger Ailes, as I reported in my book, is completely in sync with Trump on the need for extreme border protection. He wanted Navy Seals on the border with orders to shoot people trying to cross illegally. But because Murdoch has been exerting himself more, he can’t put all that on the airwaves."
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/interrogation/2016/01/gabe_sherman_on_how_donald_trump_has_rattled_roger_ailes_and_fox_news.html
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/interrogation/2016/01/gabe_sherman_on_how_donald_trump_has_rattled_roger_ailes_and_fox_news.html
14 October 2016 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
READ THIS:
Trump fires back to Prince harder then Estonia past president Toomas Hendrik Ilves:
"December, after Trump called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States, the Prince tweeted, “You are a disgrace not only to the GOP but to all America. Withdraw from the U.S presidential race as you will never win.” Trump fired back: “Dopey Prince @Alwaleed_Talal wants to control our U.S. politicians with daddy’s money. Can’t do it when I get elected. #Trump2016. "
ultra-wealthy Saudi prince who helped him out, financially, twice in the nineteen-nineties, when some of Trump’s businesses were struggling.
he bought into News Corporation, Rupert Murdoch’s company. He is still the second-biggest investor, behind Murdoch, in 21st Century Fox, which was split off from News Corp. a couple of years ago (but to describe him, as the doctored image did, as the “co-owner” of Fox News is a big stretch). He also owns stakes in Apple, Disney, Citigroup, and Twitter.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/a-saudi-prince-burns-donald-trump
http://bigthink.com/Resurgence/sharia-prince-owns-stake-in-fox-news-parent
Trump fires back to Prince harder then Estonia past president Toomas Hendrik Ilves:
"December, after Trump called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States, the Prince tweeted, “You are a disgrace not only to the GOP but to all America. Withdraw from the U.S presidential race as you will never win.” Trump fired back: “Dopey Prince @Alwaleed_Talal wants to control our U.S. politicians with daddy’s money. Can’t do it when I get elected. #Trump2016. "
ultra-wealthy Saudi prince who helped him out, financially, twice in the nineteen-nineties, when some of Trump’s businesses were struggling.
he bought into News Corporation, Rupert Murdoch’s company. He is still the second-biggest investor, behind Murdoch, in 21st Century Fox, which was split off from News Corp. a couple of years ago (but to describe him, as the doctored image did, as the “co-owner” of Fox News is a big stretch). He also owns stakes in Apple, Disney, Citigroup, and Twitter.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/a-saudi-prince-burns-donald-trump
http://bigthink.com/Resurgence/sharia-prince-owns-stake-in-fox-news-parent
14 October 2016 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syqrLCLqWmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syqrLCLqWmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syqrLCLqWmk
14 October 2016 01:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//Actually Tonald sounds like real human in here, first time i like him by voice and talk position.
"Donald Trump did an interview Thursday with Larry King, who now hosts 'Politicking With Larry King' on Russia Today, an English-language Russian state-backed news service. Trump said it would "not be appropriate" if Russian forces were looking to influence the race for American president.
"I think it's probably unlikely. Maybe the Democrats are putting that out -- who knows," Trump told King. "If they are doing something, I hope that somebody's going to be able to find out so they can end it. Because that would not be appropriate at all."
"I don't know who hacked [the DNC]. You tell me: Who hacked?" Trump said about charges Russia was behind the hack. "I have absolutely no opinion on that."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/09/larry_king_interviews_donald_trump_on_russian-owned_tv_network.html
"Donald Trump did an interview Thursday with Larry King, who now hosts 'Politicking With Larry King' on Russia Today, an English-language Russian state-backed news service. Trump said it would "not be appropriate" if Russian forces were looking to influence the race for American president.
"I think it's probably unlikely. Maybe the Democrats are putting that out -- who knows," Trump told King. "If they are doing something, I hope that somebody's going to be able to find out so they can end it. Because that would not be appropriate at all."
"I don't know who hacked [the DNC]. You tell me: Who hacked?" Trump said about charges Russia was behind the hack. "I have absolutely no opinion on that."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/09/larry_king_interviews_donald_trump_on_russian-owned_tv_network.html
14 October 2016 00:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
There is still one SMALL chance...
"Bhumibol designated Vajiralongkorn to be his successor more than 40 years ago. There were other possible candidates for succession — including a younger sister — and there had been speculation one might be chosen. Thai Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha put such talk to rest Thursday when he said the prince should ascend to the throne according to the constitution."
The public at large has long traded rumors about Vajiralongkorn's finances, hot temper and other matters. Three stormy marriages are a matter of public record.
"When you are born into this position you have to accept it," he told the women's magazine Dichan in a rare interview in 1987. "Some people like me, some people don't like me. It's their right. ... Wherever you go there is gossip. If you are busy with gossip you don't have to work."
...
// but why he wears pentagrams
"Bhumibol designated Vajiralongkorn to be his successor more than 40 years ago. There were other possible candidates for succession — including a younger sister — and there had been speculation one might be chosen. Thai Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha put such talk to rest Thursday when he said the prince should ascend to the throne according to the constitution."
The public at large has long traded rumors about Vajiralongkorn's finances, hot temper and other matters. Three stormy marriages are a matter of public record.
"When you are born into this position you have to accept it," he told the women's magazine Dichan in a rare interview in 1987. "Some people like me, some people don't like me. It's their right. ... Wherever you go there is gossip. If you are busy with gossip you don't have to work."
...
// but why he wears pentagrams
14 October 2016 00:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but i have to take my words back, if calling one wearing pentagrams, a communist.. or a star people.
"Some analysts have likened Vajiralongkorn's situation to that of Britain's Prince Charles, forced to tread water while Queen Elizabeth reigns for a seventh decade. A crucial difference is that while Charles and his family can be held to public account, particularly by the press, Thailand's royal family is protected by an Asian tradition of reverence as well as harsh laws that mandate a prison term of three to 15 years for anyone found guilty of the loosely defined crime of insulting the monarchy."
http://am1590theanswer.com/news/articles/thailands-next-king-lives-in-shadow-of-revered-father
So perhaps he does have a reason , to wear a symbols that eliminated all the kingdoms... and will try with the last ones... if they try to resurrect..
"Some analysts have likened Vajiralongkorn's situation to that of Britain's Prince Charles, forced to tread water while Queen Elizabeth reigns for a seventh decade. A crucial difference is that while Charles and his family can be held to public account, particularly by the press, Thailand's royal family is protected by an Asian tradition of reverence as well as harsh laws that mandate a prison term of three to 15 years for anyone found guilty of the loosely defined crime of insulting the monarchy."
http://am1590theanswer.com/news/articles/thailands-next-king-lives-in-shadow-of-revered-father
So perhaps he does have a reason , to wear a symbols that eliminated all the kingdoms... and will try with the last ones... if they try to resurrect..
http://am1590theanswer.com/news/articles/thailands-next-king-lives-in-shadow-of-revered-father
14 October 2016 00:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Hes sun is full of pentagrams, so it seems this kingdom is lost... for real, ...so just when communist let You think You win, does not mean, You did.. as their ideology is on going and going and on present.. if they can not surrender you at spot .. then they just make you forget who you are after time or flood and flood and flood with half cultures as long nothing is left besides parts of falce beliefs of life, that all tie in to one communism, star people original plan., whatever that will be needed is easy to initiate on that spot.
https://thaipoliticalprisoners.wordpress.com/2014/02/14/the-princes-men/
https://thaipoliticalprisoners.wordpress.com/2014/02/14/the-princes-men/
https://thaipoliticalprisoners.wordpress.com/2014/02/14/the-princes-men/
14 October 2016 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
By official accounts, however, King Bhumibol distanced himself from daily politics. In a rare interview, the king told the BBC in 1979 that the crown tried to “keep in the middle, neutral, in peaceful coexistence with everybody. We could be crushed by both sides, but we are impartial. One day it will be very handy to have someone impartial.”
That image was reinforced by unremittingly adoring news coverage in Thailand and rigid enforcement of lèse-majesté laws that criminalized real or perceived criticism of the monarchy. Several books about the king, even one he proposed, were banned without explanation.
Many Thais found the king’s manner deeply endearing. He did not stand on ceremony when talking to peasants, and he expressed genuine desire to help the most vulnerable. The king often used his authority to slice through bureaucracy and distribute aid quickly during national crises, or to help the poor and marginalized by dispensing mercy during court appearances.
He used the royal purse to fund development projects that affected nearly every Thai village, often visiting a site himself, camera in hand. Projects included clinics, schools and, in a more controversial undertaking, grand-scale dams named after him and his family members that uprooted entire communities. His charitable contributions were far-reaching, as well.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/bhumibol-adulyadej-of-thailand-dies-at-88-worlds-longest-reigning-monarch/2016/10/13/86b04ad6-913d-11e6-9c85-ac42097b8cc0_story.html
That image was reinforced by unremittingly adoring news coverage in Thailand and rigid enforcement of lèse-majesté laws that criminalized real or perceived criticism of the monarchy. Several books about the king, even one he proposed, were banned without explanation.
Many Thais found the king’s manner deeply endearing. He did not stand on ceremony when talking to peasants, and he expressed genuine desire to help the most vulnerable. The king often used his authority to slice through bureaucracy and distribute aid quickly during national crises, or to help the poor and marginalized by dispensing mercy during court appearances.
He used the royal purse to fund development projects that affected nearly every Thai village, often visiting a site himself, camera in hand. Projects included clinics, schools and, in a more controversial undertaking, grand-scale dams named after him and his family members that uprooted entire communities. His charitable contributions were far-reaching, as well.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/bhumibol-adulyadej-of-thailand-dies-at-88-worlds-longest-reigning-monarch/2016/10/13/86b04ad6-913d-11e6-9c85-ac42097b8cc0_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/bhumibol-adulyadej-of-thailand-dies-at-88-worlds-longest-reigning-monarch/2016/10/13/86b04ad6-913d-11e6-9c85-ac42097b8cc0_story.html
14 October 2016 00:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The magazine was established in 1989
http://www.nss.org/adastra/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_Astra_(magazine)
http://www.nss.org/adastra/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_Astra_(magazine)
http://www.nss.org/adastra/
14 October 2016 00:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The National Space Institute had been founded in 1972 by Wernher von Braun, the former German rocket engineer of the WW II Nazi V-2 rocket/ballistic missile program, and of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center and Project Apollo program manager. [7]
While the L5 Society failed to achieve the goal of human settlements in space, it served as a focal point for many of the people who later became known in fields such as nanotechnology, memetics, extropianism, cryonics, transhumanism, artificial intelligence, and tether propulsion, such as K. Eric Drexler, Robert Forward, and Hans Moravec
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Space_advocacy_organizations
While the L5 Society failed to achieve the goal of human settlements in space, it served as a focal point for many of the people who later became known in fields such as nanotechnology, memetics, extropianism, cryonics, transhumanism, artificial intelligence, and tether propulsion, such as K. Eric Drexler, Robert Forward, and Hans Moravec
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Space_advocacy_organizations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Space_advocacy_organizations
14 October 2016 00:33
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The peak of L5's influence was the defeat of the Moon Treaty in the U.S. Senate in 1980 ("... L-5 took on the biggest political fight of its short life, and won").[1] Specifically, L5 Society activists campaigned for awareness of the provisions against any form of sovereignty or private property in outer space that would make space colonization impossible and the provisions against any alteration of the environment of any celestial body prohibiting terraforming. Leigh Ratiner, a Washington lawyer/lobbyist, was instrumental in this effort.[citation needed]
Although economic analysis [5] indicated the SPS/space colony concept had merit, it foundered on short political and economic horizons and the fact that the transport cost to space was about 300 times too high for individuals to fund when compared to the Plymouth Rock and Mormon colonies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_Corridor
Although economic analysis [5] indicated the SPS/space colony concept had merit, it foundered on short political and economic horizons and the fact that the transport cost to space was about 300 times too high for individuals to fund when compared to the Plymouth Rock and Mormon colonies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_Corridor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_Corridor
14 October 2016 00:31
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The National Space Institute was a space advocacy group, the first of its kind, established by Dr. Wernher von Braun to help maintain the public's support for the United States space program. It has since merged, in 1987, with the L5 Society founded by Dr. Gerard K. O'Neill, to become the present-day National Space Society.
The L5 Society was founded in 1975 by Carolyn Meinel and Keith Henson to promote the space colony ideas of Gerard K. O'Neill.
The name comes from the L4 and L5 Lagrangian points in the Earth–Moon system proposed as locations for the huge rotating space habitats that O'Neill envisioned. L4 and L5 are points of stable gravitational equilibrium located along the path of the moon's orbit, 60 degrees ahead or behind it.
An object placed in orbit around L5 (or L4) will remain there indefinitely without having to expend fuel to keep its position, whereas an object placed at L1, L2 or L3 (all points of unstable equilibrium) may have to expend fuel if it drifts off the point.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L5_Society
The L5 Society was founded in 1975 by Carolyn Meinel and Keith Henson to promote the space colony ideas of Gerard K. O'Neill.
The name comes from the L4 and L5 Lagrangian points in the Earth–Moon system proposed as locations for the huge rotating space habitats that O'Neill envisioned. L4 and L5 are points of stable gravitational equilibrium located along the path of the moon's orbit, 60 degrees ahead or behind it.
An object placed in orbit around L5 (or L4) will remain there indefinitely without having to expend fuel to keep its position, whereas an object placed at L1, L2 or L3 (all points of unstable equilibrium) may have to expend fuel if it drifts off the point.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L5_Society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L5_Society
14 October 2016 00:31
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Bova holds the position of President Emeritus of the National Space Society and served as President of Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America (SFWA) from 1990 to 1992.
He appeared as the Guest of Honor at the Florida convention Necronomicon in 1995 and 2011. In 2000, he attended the 58th World Science Fiction Convention (Chicon 2000) as the Author Guest of Honor.
In 2007, Stuber/Parent Productions hired him as a consultant to provide insight into what the world may look like in the near future, for their film Repo Men (2010) starring Jude Law and Forest Whitaker. Also in 2007 he provided consulting services to Silver Pictures on the film adaptation of Richard K. Morgan's hardboiled cyberpunk science-fiction novel Altered Carbon (2002).
As of February 2016, Bova has written over 124 books,[9] non-fiction as well as science fiction, drawing on his experiences to create fact and fiction writings rich with references to artificial hearts, artists, environmentalism, fencing and martial arts, lasers, nanotechnology, photography, and spaceflight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Space_Society
He appeared as the Guest of Honor at the Florida convention Necronomicon in 1995 and 2011. In 2000, he attended the 58th World Science Fiction Convention (Chicon 2000) as the Author Guest of Honor.
In 2007, Stuber/Parent Productions hired him as a consultant to provide insight into what the world may look like in the near future, for their film Repo Men (2010) starring Jude Law and Forest Whitaker. Also in 2007 he provided consulting services to Silver Pictures on the film adaptation of Richard K. Morgan's hardboiled cyberpunk science-fiction novel Altered Carbon (2002).
As of February 2016, Bova has written over 124 books,[9] non-fiction as well as science fiction, drawing on his experiences to create fact and fiction writings rich with references to artificial hearts, artists, environmentalism, fencing and martial arts, lasers, nanotechnology, photography, and spaceflight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Space_Society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Space_Society
14 October 2016 00:27
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Bova worked as a technical writer for Project Vanguard in the 1950s and later for the Avco Everett Research Laboratory[7] in the 1960s. when they conducted research in lasers and fluid dynamics. At Avco Everett he met Arthur R. Kantrowitz (later of the Foresight Institute).
In 1972, Bova became editor of Analog Science Fact & Fiction, after John W. Campbell's death in 1971. At Analog, Bova won six Hugo Awards for Best Professional Editor.[8]
Bova served as the science advisor for the failed television series The Starlost[8] and left in disgust after the airing of the first episode (1973). His novel The Starcrossed, loosely based on his experiences, featured a thinly veiled characterization of his friend and colleague Harlan Ellison. Bova dedicated the novel to "Cordwainer Bird", the pen name Ellison uses when he does not want to be associated with a television or film project.
In 1974, he wrote the screenplay for an episode of the children's science-fiction television series Land of the Lost, titled "The Search".
After leaving Analog in 1978, Bova went on to edit Omni, from 1978 to 1982
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Bova
In 1972, Bova became editor of Analog Science Fact & Fiction, after John W. Campbell's death in 1971. At Analog, Bova won six Hugo Awards for Best Professional Editor.[8]
Bova served as the science advisor for the failed television series The Starlost[8] and left in disgust after the airing of the first episode (1973). His novel The Starcrossed, loosely based on his experiences, featured a thinly veiled characterization of his friend and colleague Harlan Ellison. Bova dedicated the novel to "Cordwainer Bird", the pen name Ellison uses when he does not want to be associated with a television or film project.
In 1974, he wrote the screenplay for an episode of the children's science-fiction television series Land of the Lost, titled "The Search".
After leaving Analog in 1978, Bova went on to edit Omni, from 1978 to 1982
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Bova
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Bova
14 October 2016 00:26
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https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/872502.The_Multiple_Man
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/872502.The_Multiple_Man
14 October 2016 00:24
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International Green Party - A large transnational social and political movement with considerable visibility, influence and power. The Greens seek to levy massive taxes against the global corporations and gain as much economic and political power as possible, hoping to stop the greenhouse effect from becoming worse, as well as addressing other environmental problems. They are often at odds with the global corporations, particularly Humphries Space Systems. They play a major role in Venus.
Selene - The moon colony and its governing body, headed by Doug Stavenger. Selene is well known for its use of nanotechnology in various industrial and medical ventures, and is often in conflict with the governments of Earth and various corporations.
Flower Dragon - An Asian group that is analogous to the New Morality and Sword of Islam. They wield influence in Korea, Thailand, and China, as well as other Asian nations. They seem to have originated in Japan. Their exact belief system is unclear, though Buddhism seems to be the basis for it. They have followers in the asteroid belt and have apparently infiltrated even the highest levels of the New Morality. This group was recruited by Yamagata Corporation to carry out the sabotage of Mance Bracknell's space elevator.
Holy Disciples - A religious group in Europe which gained influence during the greenhouse floods. While given less attention in the novels than the New Morality, they played an indirect role in Saturn, as one of their agents was sent to undermine the efforts made in the Goddard habitat.
New Dao Movement - Another of the various religious movements active in the later 21st century. Based in Asia and presumably based primarily on Daoism, although they play no role in the novels other than being part of the backdrop.
New Morality - A fundamentalist religious group that exerts much influence in the United States. Although not a political group, they wield considerable power and attempt to send representatives and advisers to various other bodies and projects. While they often try to interfere with the operations of scientific projects, as well as other aspects of society, their legal authority seems to be somewhat limited. They are not, however, above resorting to illegal and unethical methods to achieve their goals.
Sword of Islam - A fundamentalist Muslim movement in the Middle East, similar to the New Morality. They are frequently mentioned, but rarely play any role in the novels.
Selene - The moon colony and its governing body, headed by Doug Stavenger. Selene is well known for its use of nanotechnology in various industrial and medical ventures, and is often in conflict with the governments of Earth and various corporations.
Flower Dragon - An Asian group that is analogous to the New Morality and Sword of Islam. They wield influence in Korea, Thailand, and China, as well as other Asian nations. They seem to have originated in Japan. Their exact belief system is unclear, though Buddhism seems to be the basis for it. They have followers in the asteroid belt and have apparently infiltrated even the highest levels of the New Morality. This group was recruited by Yamagata Corporation to carry out the sabotage of Mance Bracknell's space elevator.
Holy Disciples - A religious group in Europe which gained influence during the greenhouse floods. While given less attention in the novels than the New Morality, they played an indirect role in Saturn, as one of their agents was sent to undermine the efforts made in the Goddard habitat.
New Dao Movement - Another of the various religious movements active in the later 21st century. Based in Asia and presumably based primarily on Daoism, although they play no role in the novels other than being part of the backdrop.
New Morality - A fundamentalist religious group that exerts much influence in the United States. Although not a political group, they wield considerable power and attempt to send representatives and advisers to various other bodies and projects. While they often try to interfere with the operations of scientific projects, as well as other aspects of society, their legal authority seems to be somewhat limited. They are not, however, above resorting to illegal and unethical methods to achieve their goals.
Sword of Islam - A fundamentalist Muslim movement in the Middle East, similar to the New Morality. They are frequently mentioned, but rarely play any role in the novels.
14 October 2016 00:23
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boor Kriss..
Kris Cardenas - possibly the most often appearing character in all of the Grand Tour, she is a nanotechnologist, the best in the System. She started off very successful in her field, winning a Nobel; but when Zealots and fanatics begin calling a ban for the technology, she has no choice but to escape to the Moon. It was here that she perfected her research, and helped Selene become independent; programming nanobots to extract oxygen and helium-3 from the surface, and to construct Clipperships. Despite Selene's independence, Kris is forever banned from Earth (due to nanobots in her body that constantly heal and rejuvenate her), and can never see her husband and children again. For years this bitterness boiled, until she helped Martin Humphries design a batch of nanobot that would disable Randolph's ship, thus preventing him from helping the Earth that was in dire need of materials. Kris was eventually caught and convicted, and soon left the Earth-Moon system for the Asteroid Belt, where she never practiced nanotechology. She would stay here for a few years, until the space habitat Goddard passed by; picking her up at Holly Lane's request, and taking her out to Saturn. From there she began to uptake nanotechnology again to help the new colony.
Kris Cardenas - possibly the most often appearing character in all of the Grand Tour, she is a nanotechnologist, the best in the System. She started off very successful in her field, winning a Nobel; but when Zealots and fanatics begin calling a ban for the technology, she has no choice but to escape to the Moon. It was here that she perfected her research, and helped Selene become independent; programming nanobots to extract oxygen and helium-3 from the surface, and to construct Clipperships. Despite Selene's independence, Kris is forever banned from Earth (due to nanobots in her body that constantly heal and rejuvenate her), and can never see her husband and children again. For years this bitterness boiled, until she helped Martin Humphries design a batch of nanobot that would disable Randolph's ship, thus preventing him from helping the Earth that was in dire need of materials. Kris was eventually caught and convicted, and soon left the Earth-Moon system for the Asteroid Belt, where she never practiced nanotechology. She would stay here for a few years, until the space habitat Goddard passed by; picking her up at Holly Lane's request, and taking her out to Saturn. From there she began to uptake nanotechnology again to help the new colony.
14 October 2016 00:19
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New Earth (July 2013) - The entire world is thrilled by the discovery of a new Earth-like planet. Advance imaging shows that the planet has oceans of liquid water and a breathable oxygen-rich atmosphere. Eager to gain more information, a human exploration team is soon dispatched to explore the planet, now nicknamed New Earth. All of the explorers understand that they are essentially on a one-way mission. The trip takes eighty years each way, so even if they are able to get back to Earth, nearly 200 years will have elapsed. They will have aged only a dozen years thanks to cryonic suspension, but their friends and family will be gone and the very society that they once knew will have changed beyond recognition. The explorers are going into exile, and they know it. They are on this mission not because they were the best available, but because they were expendable. Upon landing on the planet they discover something unexpected: New Earth is inhabited by a small group of intelligent creatures who look very much like human beings. Who are these people? Are they native to this world, or invaders from elsewhere? While they may seem inordinately friendly to the human explorers, what are their real motivations? What do they want? Moreover, the scientists begin to realize that this planet cannot possibly be natural. They face a startling and nearly unthinkable question: Could New Earth be an artifact?
Tales of the Grand Tour (2004) (short story collection. This work contains stories that span much of the timeline of the Grand Tour)
Official Grand Tour Chronology:[2]
Powersat (2005)
Empire Builders (1993)
Mars (1992)
Moonrise (1996; The Moonbase Saga, v. 1)
Moonwar (1998; The Moonbase Saga, v. 2)
Return to Mars (1999)
The Precipice (2001; The Asteroid Wars, v. 1)
Jupiter (2001)
The Rock Rats (2002; The Asteroid Wars, v. 2)
The Silent War (2004; The Asteroid Wars, v. 3)
The Aftermath (2007; The Asteroid Wars, v. 4)
Saturn (2002)
Leviathans of Jupiter (Feb 2011)
Titan (2006, John W. Campbell Memorial Award)
Mercury (2005)
Mars Life (2008)
Venus (2000)
The Return (2009)
Farside (novel) (2013)
New Earth (2013; Star Quest Trilogy v. 1)
Death Wave (2015; Star Quest Trilogy v. 2)
Tales of the Grand Tour (2004) (short story collection. This work contains stories that span much of the timeline of the Grand Tour)
Official Grand Tour Chronology:[2]
Powersat (2005)
Empire Builders (1993)
Mars (1992)
Moonrise (1996; The Moonbase Saga, v. 1)
Moonwar (1998; The Moonbase Saga, v. 2)
Return to Mars (1999)
The Precipice (2001; The Asteroid Wars, v. 1)
Jupiter (2001)
The Rock Rats (2002; The Asteroid Wars, v. 2)
The Silent War (2004; The Asteroid Wars, v. 3)
The Aftermath (2007; The Asteroid Wars, v. 4)
Saturn (2002)
Leviathans of Jupiter (Feb 2011)
Titan (2006, John W. Campbell Memorial Award)
Mercury (2005)
Mars Life (2008)
Venus (2000)
The Return (2009)
Farside (novel) (2013)
New Earth (2013; Star Quest Trilogy v. 1)
Death Wave (2015; Star Quest Trilogy v. 2)
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The Aftermath (2007;
The Asteroid Wars, v. 4) - The novel begins at the destruction of the original Chrysalis habitat at Ceres; but with the view from the family aboard the Syracuse. As the family's ship is attacked, Victor the father separates the command module from the rest of the ship to draw the attackers away; but leaves his family no way of getting home, as they drift on a 5-year orbital journey. After life-altering changes, Dorn and Elverda travel the Asteroid Belt searching for the bodies of the dead who perished in the Asteroid Wars; but Martin Humphries is bent on destroying both of them. Kao Yuan is the captain of the spacecraft "Viking", which is on the mission to kill Dorn & Elverda; however, Humphries' former lover, Tamara is the real commander, and she begins to have plans of her own. Eventually, Fate brings all these people together at the right moments in order to restore Humanity, and bring justice.
Mars Life (2008) - Jamie Waterman is back as Director of the Mars Program; along with his wife Vijay, the beautiful Indian-Aussie, and Dex Trumball, the Director of the Board in charge of Mars financing. The death of his son bring Waterman and his wife back to Earth, and puts them both in a slump. Over the years, the New Morality has slowly been taking over the American government, and gaining power; the NM restricts and censors anything that is a threat to them, and hide behind religion. One of their biggest concerns is the Mars program, which is taking money away from projects that would benefit the dystopian-style Earth. As money is slowly cut off from Mars, Dex & Jamie rush to find a solution to keeps the exploration of Mars open; however both have different views. Waterman wants to preserve the Martian life and culture, while Dex is willing to open Mars up to wealthy tourists. The Navajo scientist and Vijay return to Mars in time of great discovering; a Martian village and relics have been found, as well as what might be a graveyard, holding remains of an ancient, intelligent Martian race. Jamie struggles to find the balance of things, as time and money begin to run out; and the answer could be found in his dreams.
Venus (2000) - Van Humphries is the younger of the two sons of Martin Humphries; a man who ultimately despises him, and regards him as a weakling. Van's older brother, Alex, was always there to protect him, until his death on the first crewed mission sent to touch down on Venus. Now three years later, Martin Humphries is offering a 10-billion dollar reward to anyone who can bring his elder son's body home...from the hellish surface of Earth's sister. Van is bent on proving his father view of him wrong, while rescuing his beloved brother's body; and 10-billion dollars, which he desperately needs, as his father has cut off his "allowance". But as Van and his crew near Venus, Lars Fuchs comes racing out of the belt; determined to find Alex's body, and receive the reward from his nemesis M. Humphries. Unpredicted problems, and grand discoveries are made and prove disastrous, as the two crews are brought together.
Mercury (2005) - Industrialist and founder of Yamagata Corporation Saito Yamagata dreams of transforming the planet Mercury into a launching point for deep space missions. He has the knowledge, the funding, and the power to realize this dream, but an unexpected plot related to a disaster that occurred over a decade ago may derail his efforts. Further, evidence has been discovered that life may exist on a planet which was thought to be utterly uninhabitable to even the most elementary, and hardy, forms of life.
Leviathans of Jupiter (Feb 2011) - Grant Archer is now director of Jupiter Station, and his mind is consumed with his one driving ambition; twenty years ago, he descended into the seas of Jupiter and encountered the massive, city sized lifeforms known as the Leviathans. Now, Grant wishes to prove what he has long suspected; that the amazing creatures are intelligent. The IAA, however, has other plans.
The Return - The fourth and final book of the Voyagers saga bridges the Grand Tour with the Voyagers novels, as Keith Stoner, along with his wife and children, return to Earth to find it ruined by the greenhouse flooding and out of control religion. Stoner's efforts to save the Earth become intertwined with the life of Raoul Tavalera, as well as numerous other figures. (It is somewhat unclear when this novel occurs in relation to Leviathans of Jupiter, as Leviathans occurs twenty years after Jupiter, whereas the Return seemingly takes place no more than a few years after the events of Titan, which does not seem to take place more than a decade or less after Jupiter.)
The Asteroid Wars, v. 4) - The novel begins at the destruction of the original Chrysalis habitat at Ceres; but with the view from the family aboard the Syracuse. As the family's ship is attacked, Victor the father separates the command module from the rest of the ship to draw the attackers away; but leaves his family no way of getting home, as they drift on a 5-year orbital journey. After life-altering changes, Dorn and Elverda travel the Asteroid Belt searching for the bodies of the dead who perished in the Asteroid Wars; but Martin Humphries is bent on destroying both of them. Kao Yuan is the captain of the spacecraft "Viking", which is on the mission to kill Dorn & Elverda; however, Humphries' former lover, Tamara is the real commander, and she begins to have plans of her own. Eventually, Fate brings all these people together at the right moments in order to restore Humanity, and bring justice.
Mars Life (2008) - Jamie Waterman is back as Director of the Mars Program; along with his wife Vijay, the beautiful Indian-Aussie, and Dex Trumball, the Director of the Board in charge of Mars financing. The death of his son bring Waterman and his wife back to Earth, and puts them both in a slump. Over the years, the New Morality has slowly been taking over the American government, and gaining power; the NM restricts and censors anything that is a threat to them, and hide behind religion. One of their biggest concerns is the Mars program, which is taking money away from projects that would benefit the dystopian-style Earth. As money is slowly cut off from Mars, Dex & Jamie rush to find a solution to keeps the exploration of Mars open; however both have different views. Waterman wants to preserve the Martian life and culture, while Dex is willing to open Mars up to wealthy tourists. The Navajo scientist and Vijay return to Mars in time of great discovering; a Martian village and relics have been found, as well as what might be a graveyard, holding remains of an ancient, intelligent Martian race. Jamie struggles to find the balance of things, as time and money begin to run out; and the answer could be found in his dreams.
Venus (2000) - Van Humphries is the younger of the two sons of Martin Humphries; a man who ultimately despises him, and regards him as a weakling. Van's older brother, Alex, was always there to protect him, until his death on the first crewed mission sent to touch down on Venus. Now three years later, Martin Humphries is offering a 10-billion dollar reward to anyone who can bring his elder son's body home...from the hellish surface of Earth's sister. Van is bent on proving his father view of him wrong, while rescuing his beloved brother's body; and 10-billion dollars, which he desperately needs, as his father has cut off his "allowance". But as Van and his crew near Venus, Lars Fuchs comes racing out of the belt; determined to find Alex's body, and receive the reward from his nemesis M. Humphries. Unpredicted problems, and grand discoveries are made and prove disastrous, as the two crews are brought together.
Mercury (2005) - Industrialist and founder of Yamagata Corporation Saito Yamagata dreams of transforming the planet Mercury into a launching point for deep space missions. He has the knowledge, the funding, and the power to realize this dream, but an unexpected plot related to a disaster that occurred over a decade ago may derail his efforts. Further, evidence has been discovered that life may exist on a planet which was thought to be utterly uninhabitable to even the most elementary, and hardy, forms of life.
Leviathans of Jupiter (Feb 2011) - Grant Archer is now director of Jupiter Station, and his mind is consumed with his one driving ambition; twenty years ago, he descended into the seas of Jupiter and encountered the massive, city sized lifeforms known as the Leviathans. Now, Grant wishes to prove what he has long suspected; that the amazing creatures are intelligent. The IAA, however, has other plans.
The Return - The fourth and final book of the Voyagers saga bridges the Grand Tour with the Voyagers novels, as Keith Stoner, along with his wife and children, return to Earth to find it ruined by the greenhouse flooding and out of control religion. Stoner's efforts to save the Earth become intertwined with the life of Raoul Tavalera, as well as numerous other figures. (It is somewhat unclear when this novel occurs in relation to Leviathans of Jupiter, as Leviathans occurs twenty years after Jupiter, whereas the Return seemingly takes place no more than a few years after the events of Titan, which does not seem to take place more than a decade or less after Jupiter.)
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The Precipice (2001;
The Asteroid Wars, v. 1) - when Billionaire Martin Humphries comes to CEO of Astro Corp, Dan Randolph, and freely offers him a fusion space propulsion design, Dan is at the very least curious; but with his company near bankruptcy, the "bold astronaut" has no choice. Fusion rockets will allow Randolph to realize his dream of mining asteroids at a cost effective level. However, Dan realizes that he may have gone too far this time. But Dan is uniquely motivated; the disastrous greenhouse cliff predicted years ago (see Empire Builders above) has hit. Dan, now more than ever, believes that man must harness the resources of space if humanity is to survive.
Farside (novel) (2013) - Farside, the side of the Moon that never faces Earth, is the ideal location for an astronomical observatory. It is also the setting for a tangled web of politics, personal ambition, love, jealousy, and murder. Telescopes on Earth have detected an Earth-sized planet circling a star some thirty light-years away. Now the race is on to get pictures of that distant world, photographs and spectra that will show whether or not the planet is truly like Earth, and if it bears life.
The Rock Rats (2002; The Asteroid Wars, v. 2) - Picks up right after The Precipice. Martin Humphries returns to complete his conquest of the Asteroid Belt, along with it riches of water and metal ores; but first, two rivals stand in his way. The first being Pancho Lane, new member on the Board of Astro Corp. The second being Lars Fuchs, an independent miner who has a dream of building a space habitat in orbit above Ceres. Each begins to raise the ante, and none are willing to back down.
Jupiter (2001) - Takes place at least 20 years after the events of The Rock Rats. Astrophysicist Grant Archer dreams of studying black holes and pulsars, hoping to unlock the secrets of the universe. But in a world where many people are divided between being religious fundamentalists and die hard secularists, Grant is an oddity; a believer who is also a scientist. This puts him in the uncomfortable position of being recruited by the 'New Morality' as a spy. They wish to send him to Jupiter station, where the International Astonautical Authority mines the fuel for fusion power. Grant has no desire to go to Jupiter, as there is no purpose for someone of his discipline at the station, but he is in no position to refuse. Making things even more difficult, Grant has no idea what, exactly, he is being sent there to find out in the first place.
Saturn (2002) - the space habitat Goddard is launched from Earth, on a two-year journey to Saturn; twice as far from the Sun as anyone has gone or lived before. The habitat is made up of ten thousand people; most of whom are exiles from Earth, thrown out by the New Morality, Holy Disciples or Sword of Islam. As the habitat goes further into deep space, some begin to plot and scheme; to create a new society in their eyes. However, most do not realize that they are all part of an experiment.
The Silent War (2004; The Asteroid Wars, v. 3) Picks up about ten years after The Rock Rats. The battle for the belt continues, as hostilities flare up once again between Astro and HSS, with Lars Fuchs still caught in the middle. Things become even more dangerous, however, as the powerful Yamagata Corporation seeks to manipulate Astro and Humphries into all-out war, with the intent of taking over the badly damaged winner and claiming the belt for themselves.
Titan (2006, John W. Campbell Memorial Award) Goddard has arrived in orbit around Saturn, and the task of exploring the moon Titan begins. At the same time, scientist Nadia Wunderly seeks to prove that there are lifeforms living in the rings of Saturn. On top of this, scheming amongst the population complicates matters even further.
The Asteroid Wars, v. 1) - when Billionaire Martin Humphries comes to CEO of Astro Corp, Dan Randolph, and freely offers him a fusion space propulsion design, Dan is at the very least curious; but with his company near bankruptcy, the "bold astronaut" has no choice. Fusion rockets will allow Randolph to realize his dream of mining asteroids at a cost effective level. However, Dan realizes that he may have gone too far this time. But Dan is uniquely motivated; the disastrous greenhouse cliff predicted years ago (see Empire Builders above) has hit. Dan, now more than ever, believes that man must harness the resources of space if humanity is to survive.
Farside (novel) (2013) - Farside, the side of the Moon that never faces Earth, is the ideal location for an astronomical observatory. It is also the setting for a tangled web of politics, personal ambition, love, jealousy, and murder. Telescopes on Earth have detected an Earth-sized planet circling a star some thirty light-years away. Now the race is on to get pictures of that distant world, photographs and spectra that will show whether or not the planet is truly like Earth, and if it bears life.
The Rock Rats (2002; The Asteroid Wars, v. 2) - Picks up right after The Precipice. Martin Humphries returns to complete his conquest of the Asteroid Belt, along with it riches of water and metal ores; but first, two rivals stand in his way. The first being Pancho Lane, new member on the Board of Astro Corp. The second being Lars Fuchs, an independent miner who has a dream of building a space habitat in orbit above Ceres. Each begins to raise the ante, and none are willing to back down.
Jupiter (2001) - Takes place at least 20 years after the events of The Rock Rats. Astrophysicist Grant Archer dreams of studying black holes and pulsars, hoping to unlock the secrets of the universe. But in a world where many people are divided between being religious fundamentalists and die hard secularists, Grant is an oddity; a believer who is also a scientist. This puts him in the uncomfortable position of being recruited by the 'New Morality' as a spy. They wish to send him to Jupiter station, where the International Astonautical Authority mines the fuel for fusion power. Grant has no desire to go to Jupiter, as there is no purpose for someone of his discipline at the station, but he is in no position to refuse. Making things even more difficult, Grant has no idea what, exactly, he is being sent there to find out in the first place.
Saturn (2002) - the space habitat Goddard is launched from Earth, on a two-year journey to Saturn; twice as far from the Sun as anyone has gone or lived before. The habitat is made up of ten thousand people; most of whom are exiles from Earth, thrown out by the New Morality, Holy Disciples or Sword of Islam. As the habitat goes further into deep space, some begin to plot and scheme; to create a new society in their eyes. However, most do not realize that they are all part of an experiment.
The Silent War (2004; The Asteroid Wars, v. 3) Picks up about ten years after The Rock Rats. The battle for the belt continues, as hostilities flare up once again between Astro and HSS, with Lars Fuchs still caught in the middle. Things become even more dangerous, however, as the powerful Yamagata Corporation seeks to manipulate Astro and Humphries into all-out war, with the intent of taking over the badly damaged winner and claiming the belt for themselves.
Titan (2006, John W. Campbell Memorial Award) Goddard has arrived in orbit around Saturn, and the task of exploring the moon Titan begins. At the same time, scientist Nadia Wunderly seeks to prove that there are lifeforms living in the rings of Saturn. On top of this, scheming amongst the population complicates matters even further.
14 October 2016 00:16
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The chronological reading order as suggested by readers of the series is:
Powersat (2005) - CEO Dan Randolph of Astro Corp. has a dream of providing a desperate world with tons of energy; provided by solar satellites located in geosync orbit around the Earth, and wirelessly transferred. However, stubborn politicians, and oil companies make the way hard; but Dan has built a space plane that will drastically reduce transportation costs, making way for cheaper and easier constructed Powersats. But when the space plane blows up upon re-entering the atmosphere, Randolph is convinced that it may not be an accident; as a shadowy terrorist group threatens to bankrupt him, and even kill him.
Mars (1992) - Navajo geologist Jamie Waterman is surprised to find that he will be going on the first mission to Mars, as part of the landing crew. They will only have a few months to explore the Red Planet; a few months to prove that this world is worth another mission, as this one took decades to put together. With limited supplies, the six men and women set out to explore the top of Mt. Olympus and the bottom of Valles Marineris; having only each other to rely on. As the book draws to an end Waterman makes one of the biggest discoveries in the System, and finds a clue of even a bigger one.
Moonrise (1996; The Moonbase Saga, v. 1) - Moonbase is an old lunar outpost, maintained by Masterson Corporation; it bleeds money, and most members of the Board disapprove of it. However, Paul Stavenger, old astronaut, new husband to Joanna (née Masterson) and CEO of the Masterson Corporation, has a dream of creating a sustainable colony on the Moon; but not everyone agrees with him, or his marriage.
Return to Mars (1999) Jamie Waterman returns to Mars after his historic first visit, but this time there are strings attached to his mission. The new expedition is funded by billionaire Dex Trumball and his father, who have their own agenda. Rather than pursuing scientific discovery, Dex and his father want to turn Mars into an attraction for space tourists. To add to the complications, Jamie and Dex are both vying for the affection of the same female member of the expedition.
Moonwar (1998; The Moonbase Saga, v. 2) - the fanatical group "New Morality", along with their sister organizations the "Holy Disciples" and "Sword of Islam" have gained global support and power; and are dead set against anything to do with nanotechnology, which they call the "Devil's work". So when the last nations on Earth ban the practice, Moonbase is all that is left of a technology that could potentially save the entire Earth; granting asylum for a few runaways. But when the UN starts to send troops over, Director Douglas Stavenger declares independence; and begins a war that will see no one dead or all of them.
Privateers (1985; immediately precedes Empire Builders, with most of the same cast of characters, but with an alternate history including a still-extant Soviet Union, because Bova wrote it before the U.S.S.R. collapsed.This book takes place between 2044 and 2048 (Jane is the 52nd president). As to whether Bova himself considers this book to be retconned from the series due to the discrepancy, he has never said, although the book is missing from the series list on his official website[1])
Empire Builders (1993) - Young industrialist Dan Randolph still seeks to exploit the mineral wealth of the asteroid belt and explore the solar system, as he believes that there is a fortune to be made from space-based industry. However, his plans for the future hit a snag when one of his closest friends and employees makes a horrifying discovery; the greenhouse effect will be more sudden and catastrophic in nature than anyone expected. In a few decades, the climate will hit a 'cliff', after which the ecosystem will undergo massive, catastrophic changes which, including terrible coastal flooding. Dan thinks the only way to avert this is to move all industry into space, removing the polluting effects of manufacturing and power generation from the Earth. However, the powerful Global Economic Council has also become aware of this dark future. They have their own response planned, and do not intend to allow Randolph to get in the way.
Powersat (2005) - CEO Dan Randolph of Astro Corp. has a dream of providing a desperate world with tons of energy; provided by solar satellites located in geosync orbit around the Earth, and wirelessly transferred. However, stubborn politicians, and oil companies make the way hard; but Dan has built a space plane that will drastically reduce transportation costs, making way for cheaper and easier constructed Powersats. But when the space plane blows up upon re-entering the atmosphere, Randolph is convinced that it may not be an accident; as a shadowy terrorist group threatens to bankrupt him, and even kill him.
Mars (1992) - Navajo geologist Jamie Waterman is surprised to find that he will be going on the first mission to Mars, as part of the landing crew. They will only have a few months to explore the Red Planet; a few months to prove that this world is worth another mission, as this one took decades to put together. With limited supplies, the six men and women set out to explore the top of Mt. Olympus and the bottom of Valles Marineris; having only each other to rely on. As the book draws to an end Waterman makes one of the biggest discoveries in the System, and finds a clue of even a bigger one.
Moonrise (1996; The Moonbase Saga, v. 1) - Moonbase is an old lunar outpost, maintained by Masterson Corporation; it bleeds money, and most members of the Board disapprove of it. However, Paul Stavenger, old astronaut, new husband to Joanna (née Masterson) and CEO of the Masterson Corporation, has a dream of creating a sustainable colony on the Moon; but not everyone agrees with him, or his marriage.
Return to Mars (1999) Jamie Waterman returns to Mars after his historic first visit, but this time there are strings attached to his mission. The new expedition is funded by billionaire Dex Trumball and his father, who have their own agenda. Rather than pursuing scientific discovery, Dex and his father want to turn Mars into an attraction for space tourists. To add to the complications, Jamie and Dex are both vying for the affection of the same female member of the expedition.
Moonwar (1998; The Moonbase Saga, v. 2) - the fanatical group "New Morality", along with their sister organizations the "Holy Disciples" and "Sword of Islam" have gained global support and power; and are dead set against anything to do with nanotechnology, which they call the "Devil's work". So when the last nations on Earth ban the practice, Moonbase is all that is left of a technology that could potentially save the entire Earth; granting asylum for a few runaways. But when the UN starts to send troops over, Director Douglas Stavenger declares independence; and begins a war that will see no one dead or all of them.
Privateers (1985; immediately precedes Empire Builders, with most of the same cast of characters, but with an alternate history including a still-extant Soviet Union, because Bova wrote it before the U.S.S.R. collapsed.This book takes place between 2044 and 2048 (Jane is the 52nd president). As to whether Bova himself considers this book to be retconned from the series due to the discrepancy, he has never said, although the book is missing from the series list on his official website[1])
Empire Builders (1993) - Young industrialist Dan Randolph still seeks to exploit the mineral wealth of the asteroid belt and explore the solar system, as he believes that there is a fortune to be made from space-based industry. However, his plans for the future hit a snag when one of his closest friends and employees makes a horrifying discovery; the greenhouse effect will be more sudden and catastrophic in nature than anyone expected. In a few decades, the climate will hit a 'cliff', after which the ecosystem will undergo massive, catastrophic changes which, including terrible coastal flooding. Dan thinks the only way to avert this is to move all industry into space, removing the polluting effects of manufacturing and power generation from the Earth. However, the powerful Global Economic Council has also become aware of this dark future. They have their own response planned, and do not intend to allow Randolph to get in the way.
14 October 2016 00:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The future humanity as depicted in the Grand Tour novel series is divided between Greens (environmentalists) and wealthy industrialists, as well as between secularists/scientists and religious fundamentalists. These conflicts generally are presented as part of the background and often set up the initial conflicts of each of the books. In addition, several of the books reference, or indeed directly deal with, conflicts between wealthy industrialists and small, independent operators seeking to exploit the solar system's vast untapped mineral wealth.
A major theme of the series, which takes center stage in several of the novels, is the search for life on other planets in the solar system. Mars, Mars Life, Jupiter, Venus, Mercury, Saturn, Titan, and Leviathans of Jupiter all deal with this issue. The discovery of life in the solar system often leads to conflicts between religious fundamentalists and scientists, with the former seeing the existence of such life as conflicting with their religious doctrines.
While each novel can be read independent of the others, and they can be read in any order, there are distinct story arcs within the series. The Moonbase arc (which may also include the Asteroid Wars arc), the Mars books, and the Saturn books, for instance, comprise various sagas within the series.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Tour_(novel_series)
A major theme of the series, which takes center stage in several of the novels, is the search for life on other planets in the solar system. Mars, Mars Life, Jupiter, Venus, Mercury, Saturn, Titan, and Leviathans of Jupiter all deal with this issue. The discovery of life in the solar system often leads to conflicts between religious fundamentalists and scientists, with the former seeing the existence of such life as conflicting with their religious doctrines.
While each novel can be read independent of the others, and they can be read in any order, there are distinct story arcs within the series. The Moonbase arc (which may also include the Asteroid Wars arc), the Mars books, and the Saturn books, for instance, comprise various sagas within the series.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Tour_(novel_series)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Tour_(novel_series)
14 October 2016 00:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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https://books.google.ee/books?id=Vs09mB9QjTgC&pg=PA306&lpg=PA306&dq=Ben+Bova+president+clone&source=bl&ots=m5S3uyF8SL&sig=TDkVV2a67l9p_PElgQsCiVBAA6k&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjYg_nAxtjPAhVTb5oKHe0xBCEQ6AEIIzAB#v=onepage&q=Ben%20Bova%20president%20clone&f=false
https://books.google.ee/books?id=Vs09mB9QjTgC&pg=PA306&lpg=PA306&dq=Ben+Bova+president+clone&source=bl&ots=m5S3uyF8SL&sig=TDkVV2a67l9p_PElgQsCiVBAA6k&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjYg_nAxtjPAhVTb5oKHe0xBCEQ6AEIIzAB#v=onepage&q=Ben%20Bova%20president%20clone&f=false
https://books.google.ee/books?id=Vs09mB9QjTgC&pg=PA306&lpg=PA306&dq=Ben+Bova+president+clone&source=bl&ots=m5S3uyF8SL&sig=TDkVV2a67l9p_PElgQsCiVBAA6k&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjYg_nAxtjPAhVTb5oKHe0xBCEQ6AEIIzAB#v=onepage&q=Ben%20Bova%20president%20clone&f=false
14 October 2016 00:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
whatever
The Trump International Hotel & Tower website said the Waikiki property is not "owned, developed or sold by Donald J. Trump, the Trump Organization or any of their affiliates."
(he got 10% for the name, )
"He does own a lot of the hotels and he is a part owner of a lot of the hotels and he may be a part-owner of this hotel," Sofos said. "So he's probably saying this is a part of his legacy and his power base."
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/31421181/who-owns-trump-waikiki-not-the-donald
The Trump International Hotel & Tower website said the Waikiki property is not "owned, developed or sold by Donald J. Trump, the Trump Organization or any of their affiliates."
(he got 10% for the name, )
"He does own a lot of the hotels and he is a part owner of a lot of the hotels and he may be a part-owner of this hotel," Sofos said. "So he's probably saying this is a part of his legacy and his power base."
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/31421181/who-owns-trump-waikiki-not-the-donald
14 October 2016 00:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Story:
http://people.com/politics/donald-trump-attacked-people-writer/
http://people.com/politics/donald-trump-attacked-people-writer/
http://people.com/politics/donald-trump-attacked-people-writer/
14 October 2016 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
In a stunning essay for People magazine, Natasha Stoynoff accused GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump of attacking her at his home, while she was interviewing him for a story.
Shortly after Trump and his wife, Melania, were married, Stoynoff went to the billionaire real estate developer’s Mar-a-Logo estate in Florida, while conducting research for a profile she was writing about the celebrity couple for their first wedding anniversary.
During her stay there, Trump invited Stoynoff on a tour of his mansion while Melania, who was pregnant at the time, was changing clothes to prepare for a photo shoot. That’s when, according to Stoynoff, Trump sexually assaulted her.
There was one “tremendous” room in particular, he said, that I just had to see.
We walked into that room alone, and Trump shut the door behind us. I turned around, and within seconds, he was pushing me against the wall, and forcing his tongue down my throat.
Now, I’m a tall, strapping girl who grew up wrestling two giant brothers. I even once sparred with Mike Tyson. It takes a lot to push me. But Trump is much bigger—a looming figure—and he was fast, taking me by surprise, and throwing me off balance. I was stunned. And I was grateful when Trump’s longtime butler burst into the room a minute later, as I tried to unpin myself.
The butler informed us that Melania would be down momentarily, and it was time to resume the interview.
After the assault, Stoynoff wrote that her self-esteem “crashed to zero.”
“How could the actions of one man make me feel so violated?” Stoynoff wrote.
Despite the experience, Stoynoff was determined to remain professional, and do the job she came to do. That’s when Trump leaned in and told her, “You know we’re going to have an affair, don’t you?”
http://usuncut.com/politics/people-magazine-writer-donald-trump-sexually-assaulted/
Shortly after Trump and his wife, Melania, were married, Stoynoff went to the billionaire real estate developer’s Mar-a-Logo estate in Florida, while conducting research for a profile she was writing about the celebrity couple for their first wedding anniversary.
During her stay there, Trump invited Stoynoff on a tour of his mansion while Melania, who was pregnant at the time, was changing clothes to prepare for a photo shoot. That’s when, according to Stoynoff, Trump sexually assaulted her.
There was one “tremendous” room in particular, he said, that I just had to see.
We walked into that room alone, and Trump shut the door behind us. I turned around, and within seconds, he was pushing me against the wall, and forcing his tongue down my throat.
Now, I’m a tall, strapping girl who grew up wrestling two giant brothers. I even once sparred with Mike Tyson. It takes a lot to push me. But Trump is much bigger—a looming figure—and he was fast, taking me by surprise, and throwing me off balance. I was stunned. And I was grateful when Trump’s longtime butler burst into the room a minute later, as I tried to unpin myself.
The butler informed us that Melania would be down momentarily, and it was time to resume the interview.
After the assault, Stoynoff wrote that her self-esteem “crashed to zero.”
“How could the actions of one man make me feel so violated?” Stoynoff wrote.
Despite the experience, Stoynoff was determined to remain professional, and do the job she came to do. That’s when Trump leaned in and told her, “You know we’re going to have an affair, don’t you?”
http://usuncut.com/politics/people-magazine-writer-donald-trump-sexually-assaulted/
http://usuncut.com/politics/people-magazine-writer-donald-trump-sexually-assaulted/
14 October 2016 00:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
@realDonaldTrump "I refuse to call Megyn Kelly a bimbo, because that would not be politically correct. Instead I will only call her a lightweight reporter!"
“I can’t believe that I’m saying that a candidate for president of the United States has bragged about sexually assaulting women. I cannot stop thinking about this. It has shaken me to my core in a way i could not have predicted,” Obama said. “So while I would love nothing more to pretend like this isn’t happening, and to come out here and do my normal campaign speech, it would be dishonest and disingenuous to move on to the next thing and pretend like this was all just a bad dream.”
“This is not something that we can ignore. It’s not something we can sweep under the rug as just another disturbing footnote in a sad election season,” she added.
http://usuncut.com/politics/michelle-obama-gets-choked-talking-trumps-sexual-abuse/
“I can’t believe that I’m saying that a candidate for president of the United States has bragged about sexually assaulting women. I cannot stop thinking about this. It has shaken me to my core in a way i could not have predicted,” Obama said. “So while I would love nothing more to pretend like this isn’t happening, and to come out here and do my normal campaign speech, it would be dishonest and disingenuous to move on to the next thing and pretend like this was all just a bad dream.”
“This is not something that we can ignore. It’s not something we can sweep under the rug as just another disturbing footnote in a sad election season,” she added.
http://usuncut.com/politics/michelle-obama-gets-choked-talking-trumps-sexual-abuse/
http://usuncut.com/politics/michelle-obama-gets-choked-talking-trumps-sexual-abuse/
14 October 2016 00:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In comparison with other prominent politicians and elected officials from both the Republican and Democratic parties, Trump leads the pack in lies told. In a chart assembled by fact-checking website Politifact, roughly 75 percent of Trump’s statements were rated “pants on fire,” “false,” and “mostly false.”
"According to Politico, the billionaire New York real estate magnate tells a lie literally every five minutes. After analyzing four and a half hours of Trump’s speeches and press conferences, the DC-based political gossip magazine counted approximately 60 lies so severe that the magazine would be forced to retract them if printed in their own publication:"
http://usuncut.com/politics/trump-getting-fact-checked-real-time/
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/trump-fact-check-errors-exaggerations-falsehoods-213730
"According to Politico, the billionaire New York real estate magnate tells a lie literally every five minutes. After analyzing four and a half hours of Trump’s speeches and press conferences, the DC-based political gossip magazine counted approximately 60 lies so severe that the magazine would be forced to retract them if printed in their own publication:"
http://usuncut.com/politics/trump-getting-fact-checked-real-time/
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/trump-fact-check-errors-exaggerations-falsehoods-213730
http://usuncut.com/politics/trump-getting-fact-checked-real-time/
14 October 2016 00:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But same time also... "
It’s easy to enjoy the Trump-Fox feud simply as political theater, but there is a genuine crisis here in journalistic objectivity. Journalists are supposed to report on a story from an impartial point of view, which is impossible with a candidate like Trump who insists on personalizing every exchange. In effect, Trump’s whole way of relating to the media is an attempt to make objective reporting impossible—which redounds to Trump’s benefit because it allows his supporters to reject all critical reports as “biased.”
(war between fox and news https://newrepublic.com/article/128509/trump-fox-news-end-fair-balanced)
It’s easy to enjoy the Trump-Fox feud simply as political theater, but there is a genuine crisis here in journalistic objectivity. Journalists are supposed to report on a story from an impartial point of view, which is impossible with a candidate like Trump who insists on personalizing every exchange. In effect, Trump’s whole way of relating to the media is an attempt to make objective reporting impossible—which redounds to Trump’s benefit because it allows his supporters to reject all critical reports as “biased.”
(war between fox and news https://newrepublic.com/article/128509/trump-fox-news-end-fair-balanced)
https://newrepublic.com/article/128509/trump-fox-news-end-fair-balanced
14 October 2016 00:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lou Dobbs, anchor for Fox Business News, sent the phone number and address of Jessica Leeds, one of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s alleged groping victims, to his 792,000 Twitter followers this morning.
Dobbs linked to a conservative news site that claimed that there was a connection between Leeds and the Clinton Foundation. The article inaccurately claimed that Leeds’ phone number is the same phone number used by the Clinton Foundation, publicly disclosing both her phone number and place of residence.
Dobbs also quoted a Trump supporter’s tweet which shared Leeds’ phone number and address
“He was like an octopus,” she said. “His hands were everywhere… It was an assault.”
Some Trump supporters have been known to become violent against those who are critical of their candidate. In one case, an artist who went viral after drawing a picture of Trump with small genitals was tracked down and punched in the face by a supporter right outside her house.
http://usuncut.com/news/fox-news-anchor-publishes-trump-accusers-address-phone-number/
Dobbs linked to a conservative news site that claimed that there was a connection between Leeds and the Clinton Foundation. The article inaccurately claimed that Leeds’ phone number is the same phone number used by the Clinton Foundation, publicly disclosing both her phone number and place of residence.
Dobbs also quoted a Trump supporter’s tweet which shared Leeds’ phone number and address
“He was like an octopus,” she said. “His hands were everywhere… It was an assault.”
Some Trump supporters have been known to become violent against those who are critical of their candidate. In one case, an artist who went viral after drawing a picture of Trump with small genitals was tracked down and punched in the face by a supporter right outside her house.
http://usuncut.com/news/fox-news-anchor-publishes-trump-accusers-address-phone-number/
http://usuncut.com/news/fox-news-anchor-publishes-trump-accusers-address-phone-number/
14 October 2016 00:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(911)
And while naturally Feherty asked about Trump’s presidential campaign, a big portion of the show was indeed about golf. Early on, Feherty wanted to talk about Turnberry, Trump’s golf resort in Scotland. Trump gushed about how well he fixed up the course’s holes: "Especially hole 9, hole 10, and hole 11. Hole 11 was initially not so exciting, but now it’s one of the most beautiful holes in the world."
"Dural has gotten rave reviews. We blew it up, 800 acres right in the middle of Miami. … Sadly Mexico made an offer that was a lot of money. Mexico’s taking a lot of our business; the players are unhappy about it."
http://www.vox.com/2016/7/18/12220216/donald-trump-golf-channel-interview
http://www.vox.com/2016/7/19/12230324/trump-family-tree-tiffany
And while naturally Feherty asked about Trump’s presidential campaign, a big portion of the show was indeed about golf. Early on, Feherty wanted to talk about Turnberry, Trump’s golf resort in Scotland. Trump gushed about how well he fixed up the course’s holes: "Especially hole 9, hole 10, and hole 11. Hole 11 was initially not so exciting, but now it’s one of the most beautiful holes in the world."
"Dural has gotten rave reviews. We blew it up, 800 acres right in the middle of Miami. … Sadly Mexico made an offer that was a lot of money. Mexico’s taking a lot of our business; the players are unhappy about it."
http://www.vox.com/2016/7/18/12220216/donald-trump-golf-channel-interview
http://www.vox.com/2016/7/19/12230324/trump-family-tree-tiffany
http://www.vox.com/2016/7/18/12220216/donald-trump-golf-channel-interview
14 October 2016 00:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Donald Trump, a Republican presidential candidate, is suing Univision. The Spanish-language TV network dropped its coverage of Miss USA and Miss Universe — two beauty pageants that Trump co-owns — because of Trump's remarks about Mexican immigrants during his presidential campaign announcement on June 16. NBCUniversal also dropped the pageant programming.
NPR's Andrew Limbong reports that Trump is seeking $500 million, and that in the suit, Trump claims Univision is attempting to suppress his freedom of speech.
Here's an excerpt from The Trump Organization's statement:
"Under the contract, Univision is required to broadcast the pageant live on television in Spanish..."
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/30/418990895/donald-trump-sues-univision-for-500-million
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/29/418619850/nbcuniversal-is-cutting-ties-with-donald-trump
NPR's Andrew Limbong reports that Trump is seeking $500 million, and that in the suit, Trump claims Univision is attempting to suppress his freedom of speech.
Here's an excerpt from The Trump Organization's statement:
"Under the contract, Univision is required to broadcast the pageant live on television in Spanish..."
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/30/418990895/donald-trump-sues-univision-for-500-million
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/29/418619850/nbcuniversal-is-cutting-ties-with-donald-trump
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/30/418990895/donald-trump-sues-univision-for-500-million
14 October 2016 00:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vladimir Zhirinovsky, a top-ranking member of the Russian parliament, told Reuters that if Americans want world peace, they’ll have no choice but to vote for the Republican nominee, as Trump, according to Zhirinovsky, is the only candidate who can successfully de-escalate the ongoing tension between Russia and the United States. Zhirinovsky also stated that if Hillary Clinton is elected president, it will very likely bring about World War Three.
“Americans voting for a president on Nov. 8 must realize that they are voting for peace on Planet Earth if they vote for Trump,” Zhirinovsky said in an interview with Reuters’ Andrew Osborn. “But if they vote for Hillary it’s war. It will be a short movie. There will be Hiroshimas and Nagasakis everywhere.”
“[Trump] won’t care about Syria, Libya and Iraq and why an earth should America interfere in these countries? And Ukraine. Who needs Ukraine?” Zhirinovsky said.
Zhirinovsky, who has been a member of the Russian Parliament for over two decades, said he first met Donald Trump in 2002 during a visit to New York City and immediately found commonalities with the real estate magnate, noting how both of them used coarse, misogynistic language and are roughly the same age.
http://usuncut.com/politics/putin-ally-vote-trump-face-nuclear-war/
“Americans voting for a president on Nov. 8 must realize that they are voting for peace on Planet Earth if they vote for Trump,” Zhirinovsky said in an interview with Reuters’ Andrew Osborn. “But if they vote for Hillary it’s war. It will be a short movie. There will be Hiroshimas and Nagasakis everywhere.”
“[Trump] won’t care about Syria, Libya and Iraq and why an earth should America interfere in these countries? And Ukraine. Who needs Ukraine?” Zhirinovsky said.
Zhirinovsky, who has been a member of the Russian Parliament for over two decades, said he first met Donald Trump in 2002 during a visit to New York City and immediately found commonalities with the real estate magnate, noting how both of them used coarse, misogynistic language and are roughly the same age.
http://usuncut.com/politics/putin-ally-vote-trump-face-nuclear-war/
http://usuncut.com/politics/putin-ally-vote-trump-face-nuclear-war/
14 October 2016 00:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thailand is one of the few countries left where a royal ruler has real clout. Unlike some smaller monarchies such as Brunei and Bhutan, Thailand is also an important U.S. ally in Asia and a major player in the global economy, exporting everything from rice and shrimp to cars and microchips.
King Bhumibol—his full name means “Strength of the Land, Incomparable Power”—trod a delicate path, balancing his quickly modernizing country’s desire for democracy with the authoritarian inclinations of its military chiefs.
His pronouncements settled many of the biggest crises in modern Thai history, even though, like the U.K.’s Queen Elizabeth II, he held no formal political authority.
Sometimes he interceded to restore civilian rule, notably during mass pro-democracy protests in 1973 and 1992. At other times, he has signed off on military takeovers, as in 2006.
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After World War II, with much of Southeast Asia battling communist insurgencies, Thailand’s military rulers decided to deploy King Bhumibol as a unifying figure to defeat what they called the “red menace.”
The young king made the most of the opportunity, channeling his family’s wealth into rural-development projects and burnishing his reputation for selflessness.
As his public stature grew, King Bhumibol effectively regained much of the institution’s moral authority.
King Bhumibol has given hardly any interviews. Perhaps the most telling indication of his political philosophy can be found in a 2001 best-seller he wrote about his favorite pet dog, Tongdaeng, a mongrel he rescued from the streets of Bangkok.
“A respectful dog with proper manners, she is humble and knows protocol,” the king wrote.
// OK, that sounded like something out of Hijacker Guide to Galaxy .. but at least this newspaper, is clearly more in true human hands.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/thai-king-bhumibol-adulyadej-worlds-longest-serving-monarch-dies-1476360104
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Born in the US and raised in Switzerland, Bhumibol ascended to the Thai throne in 1946 after the death of his brother, Ananda Mahidol. A keen saxophone player and dog lover, King Bhumibol was dearly loved by Thais, and has remained a symbol of unity despite the multiple military coups and protests that have roiled the country over the decades.
"King Bhumibol’s named successor is his only son, Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn, who spends much of his time outside Thailand."
King Bhumibol—his full name means “Strength of the Land, Incomparable Power”—trod a delicate path, balancing his quickly modernizing country’s desire for democracy with the authoritarian inclinations of its military chiefs.
His pronouncements settled many of the biggest crises in modern Thai history, even though, like the U.K.’s Queen Elizabeth II, he held no formal political authority.
Sometimes he interceded to restore civilian rule, notably during mass pro-democracy protests in 1973 and 1992. At other times, he has signed off on military takeovers, as in 2006.
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After World War II, with much of Southeast Asia battling communist insurgencies, Thailand’s military rulers decided to deploy King Bhumibol as a unifying figure to defeat what they called the “red menace.”
The young king made the most of the opportunity, channeling his family’s wealth into rural-development projects and burnishing his reputation for selflessness.
As his public stature grew, King Bhumibol effectively regained much of the institution’s moral authority.
King Bhumibol has given hardly any interviews. Perhaps the most telling indication of his political philosophy can be found in a 2001 best-seller he wrote about his favorite pet dog, Tongdaeng, a mongrel he rescued from the streets of Bangkok.
“A respectful dog with proper manners, she is humble and knows protocol,” the king wrote.
// OK, that sounded like something out of Hijacker Guide to Galaxy .. but at least this newspaper, is clearly more in true human hands.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/thai-king-bhumibol-adulyadej-worlds-longest-serving-monarch-dies-1476360104
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Born in the US and raised in Switzerland, Bhumibol ascended to the Thai throne in 1946 after the death of his brother, Ananda Mahidol. A keen saxophone player and dog lover, King Bhumibol was dearly loved by Thais, and has remained a symbol of unity despite the multiple military coups and protests that have roiled the country over the decades.
"King Bhumibol’s named successor is his only son, Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn, who spends much of his time outside Thailand."
http://www.wsj.com/articles/thai-king-bhumibol-adulyadej-worlds-longest-serving-monarch-dies-1476360104
14 October 2016 00:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
A lot of images:
US president Bill Clinton shows Thai King Bhumibol Adulyadej photos of famous American jazz musicians as they exchange gifts at Bangkok’s Grand Palace Tuesday Nov. 26, 1996. (AP Photo/Blake Sell/Pool)
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King Bhumibol Adulyadej and his fiancee, Princess Sirikit, in Lausanne, Switzerland on Sept. 13, 1949. The 21-year-old king was studying law in Switzerland. The daughter of Prince Kitiyakara, the Thai ambassador in London, she was at a Lausanne boarding school. They met in Paris. (AP Photo)
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Thailand’s King Bhumibol Adulyadej plays the saxophone during a jam session with legendary jazz clarinetist Benny Goodman and his band in New York on July 5, 1960. (AP Photo)
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Wieland Wagner, grandson of German composer Richard Wagner, left, watches as West German president Heinrich Luebke, center, talks to Queen Sirikit and King Bhumibol of Thailand after the performance of the opera “Lohengrin,” at the Opera House in Bayreuth, West Germany, August 1, 1960. (AP Photo)
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Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlevi of Iran, left, and King Bhumibol of Thailand, at Chulalongkorn University, in Bangkok, Thailand, on Jan. 23, 1968, after the Shah received an honorary degree as Doctor of Political Science. (AP Photo)
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Thailand’s Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn, pictured here in Bangkok, on May 9, 2016, has been named King Bhumibol’s successor. (REUTERS/Athit Perawongmetha)
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http://qz.com/808425/thailands-king-bhumibol-adulyadej-the-worlds-longest-reigning-monarch-is-dead-at-88/
US president Bill Clinton shows Thai King Bhumibol Adulyadej photos of famous American jazz musicians as they exchange gifts at Bangkok’s Grand Palace Tuesday Nov. 26, 1996. (AP Photo/Blake Sell/Pool)
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King Bhumibol Adulyadej and his fiancee, Princess Sirikit, in Lausanne, Switzerland on Sept. 13, 1949. The 21-year-old king was studying law in Switzerland. The daughter of Prince Kitiyakara, the Thai ambassador in London, she was at a Lausanne boarding school. They met in Paris. (AP Photo)
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Thailand’s King Bhumibol Adulyadej plays the saxophone during a jam session with legendary jazz clarinetist Benny Goodman and his band in New York on July 5, 1960. (AP Photo)
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Wieland Wagner, grandson of German composer Richard Wagner, left, watches as West German president Heinrich Luebke, center, talks to Queen Sirikit and King Bhumibol of Thailand after the performance of the opera “Lohengrin,” at the Opera House in Bayreuth, West Germany, August 1, 1960. (AP Photo)
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Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlevi of Iran, left, and King Bhumibol of Thailand, at Chulalongkorn University, in Bangkok, Thailand, on Jan. 23, 1968, after the Shah received an honorary degree as Doctor of Political Science. (AP Photo)
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Thailand’s Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn, pictured here in Bangkok, on May 9, 2016, has been named King Bhumibol’s successor. (REUTERS/Athit Perawongmetha)
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http://qz.com/808425/thailands-king-bhumibol-adulyadej-the-worlds-longest-reigning-monarch-is-dead-at-88/
http://qz.com/808425/thailands-king-bhumibol-adulyadej-the-worlds-longest-reigning-monarch-is-dead-at-88/
14 October 2016 00:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Dr. Bova was manager of marketing for Avco Everett Research Laboratory, in Massachusetts, and worked with leading scientists in fields such as high-power lasers, artificial hearts, and plasma dynamics. Prior to that he wrote scripts for teaching films with the Physical Sciences Study Committee in association with Nobel Laureates from many universities. Earlier, he was technical editor on Project Vanguard, the first American artificial satellite program.
Bova was born in Philadelphia and worked as a newspaper reporter for several years before joining Project Vanguard. His articles, opinion pieces and reviews have appeared in Scientific American, Nature, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and many other newspapers and magazines.
A member of the Arizona Astronomy Board, Dr. Bova was earlier on the Steering Committee for the NASA/Space Transportation Association study on space tourism. He has served on panels of the Office of Technology Assessment.
He is a member of the Board of Governors of the National Space Society, a charter member of the Planetary Society, and a Fellow of the British Interplanetary Society. In 2005 Dr. Bova received the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Lee County (FL) Reading Festival. Temple University honored him as a Distinguished Alumnus in 1981, and in 1982 made him an Alumni Fellow.
http://www.nss.org/about/bios/bova.html
Bova was born in Philadelphia and worked as a newspaper reporter for several years before joining Project Vanguard. His articles, opinion pieces and reviews have appeared in Scientific American, Nature, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and many other newspapers and magazines.
A member of the Arizona Astronomy Board, Dr. Bova was earlier on the Steering Committee for the NASA/Space Transportation Association study on space tourism. He has served on panels of the Office of Technology Assessment.
He is a member of the Board of Governors of the National Space Society, a charter member of the Planetary Society, and a Fellow of the British Interplanetary Society. In 2005 Dr. Bova received the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Lee County (FL) Reading Festival. Temple University honored him as a Distinguished Alumnus in 1981, and in 1982 made him an Alumni Fellow.
http://www.nss.org/about/bios/bova.html
http://www.nss.org/about/bios/bova.html
13 October 2016 23:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Winterhoff soovitab laste käitumishäirete põhjusi otsida vanemate võimetusest muutunud ühiskonnas autoriteeti kehtestada, mis omakorda lapse sotsiaalsete võimete arengu seisma paneb.
“Täna ronis üks laps tunni ajal laua peale ja hüppas mulle selja tagant kaela,” räägib üks õpetaja oma teise klassi tunni kohta. “Minul istus üks täna terve tunni pingi all ja keeldus minuga rääkimast,” vastab teine, “ja üks oli nii vihane, et viskas mind telefoniga, kui ma teda korrale kutsusin.”
Mis siis lastega juhtunud on? Kas nüüdisaegne õpetaja on laste kaitseks kehtestatud reeglite ja keeldudega jäetud ilma vahenditest, millega tunnis korda hoida? Või ei anna tänapäeva pedagoogiharidus vajalikke oskusi lastega hakkama saamiseks?
http://www.sinamina.ee/indigolapsed-voi-vaikesed-turannid
“Täna ronis üks laps tunni ajal laua peale ja hüppas mulle selja tagant kaela,” räägib üks õpetaja oma teise klassi tunni kohta. “Minul istus üks täna terve tunni pingi all ja keeldus minuga rääkimast,” vastab teine, “ja üks oli nii vihane, et viskas mind telefoniga, kui ma teda korrale kutsusin.”
Mis siis lastega juhtunud on? Kas nüüdisaegne õpetaja on laste kaitseks kehtestatud reeglite ja keeldudega jäetud ilma vahenditest, millega tunnis korda hoida? Või ei anna tänapäeva pedagoogiharidus vajalikke oskusi lastega hakkama saamiseks?
http://www.sinamina.ee/indigolapsed-voi-vaikesed-turannid
http://www.sinamina.ee/indigolapsed-voi-vaikesed-turannid
13 October 2016 21:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Parem on mitte kallistada, kui rituaalselt vale kallistust sisse harjutada, sest siis inimene sellega röövib endalt enamasti alatiseks ka üldse kunagi PÄRIS kallistuse tunnetamise ja selle vastuvõtmise oskuse, läheduse hindamise
13 October 2016 21:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid mõtlesin, kas tänapäeva ja tulevased inimsed, enam oskakski kuulata laulus sõna "troon" vaid nad kuuleksid hoopis "droon" ... ja laulusisu oleks kõik pilla-pallla..
Sonad sain selliselt huvitava nimega lehelt nagu "Puhas Leht"
https://jogevagymn.kovtp.ee/documents/105605/6136691/No7web.pdf/7b5ab61a-767f-4e5d-97ce-2f265e6a8b04
Sonad sain selliselt huvitava nimega lehelt nagu "Puhas Leht"
https://jogevagymn.kovtp.ee/documents/105605/6136691/No7web.pdf/7b5ab61a-767f-4e5d-97ce-2f265e6a8b04
13 October 2016 20:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuningalaul
Ja siis tuleb see laul:
"On kuskil üks maa, mida keegi ei tea
ja ükspäinis kuningad elavad seal.
On mõned neist vanad ja hall on neil pea,
kuid ka kuningalapsi on seal.
Ja sellel kuningamaal on üks kool
ja iga tool selles koolis on troon.
Ja nendel troonidael istub seal kuningaid reas
ja kuldsed on kroonid neil peas.
Võid mõelda ju küll, et on kuningail hea,
et kellegi käsku ei kuulama pea,
et mängid, kui tahad, või voodi end sead,
või siis hoopiski seanahka vead.
Kuid päriselt kuningail tegemist küll,
ei aita see, et hermeliinmantel üll.
Nad õpivad nõnda, et auramas pea,
sest et rumalast kuningast keegi ju miskit ei pea.
Ja nii nad seal õpivad troonidel reas,
on tähed ja numbrid neil krooni all peas.
Ja tuleb sest laulust nüüd välja moraal:
muudkui õpi, siis vahest ehk sinustki kuningas saab "
Ja siis tuleb see laul:
"On kuskil üks maa, mida keegi ei tea
ja ükspäinis kuningad elavad seal.
On mõned neist vanad ja hall on neil pea,
kuid ka kuningalapsi on seal.
Ja sellel kuningamaal on üks kool
ja iga tool selles koolis on troon.
Ja nendel troonidael istub seal kuningaid reas
ja kuldsed on kroonid neil peas.
Võid mõelda ju küll, et on kuningail hea,
et kellegi käsku ei kuulama pea,
et mängid, kui tahad, või voodi end sead,
või siis hoopiski seanahka vead.
Kuid päriselt kuningail tegemist küll,
ei aita see, et hermeliinmantel üll.
Nad õpivad nõnda, et auramas pea,
sest et rumalast kuningast keegi ju miskit ei pea.
Ja nii nad seal õpivad troonidel reas,
on tähed ja numbrid neil krooni all peas.
Ja tuleb sest laulust nüüd välja moraal:
muudkui õpi, siis vahest ehk sinustki kuningas saab "
13 October 2016 20:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ps: ma jälestan sõna demokraatia,
praegust vormi, kus õigusel ei ole õigust olla õige või reaalselt rakendada õiglust kuid valedel on lubatud valetada ja valimisi vussi ajada ning õiglaste vastu võidelda, ja siis omakorda, õiged selle demokraatlikus utoopias peavad neid valesi võrdsetena võtma ja austama ilma, et õigetel oleks lubatud tõde selgitada ja rakendada tõeselt
praegust vormi, kus õigusel ei ole õigust olla õige või reaalselt rakendada õiglust kuid valedel on lubatud valetada ja valimisi vussi ajada ning õiglaste vastu võidelda, ja siis omakorda, õiged selle demokraatlikus utoopias peavad neid valesi võrdsetena võtma ja austama ilma, et õigetel oleks lubatud tõde selgitada ja rakendada tõeselt
13 October 2016 20:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lugu oli tegelikult päris nõrk, potensiaal aga oli ...
Et mis moodi ta seda hirssi nodele rottidele pidevalt organiseeris..
Hea lugu peab ikka tõsiloo moraaliga olema
Et mis moodi ta seda hirssi nodele rottidele pidevalt organiseeris..
Hea lugu peab ikka tõsiloo moraaliga olema
13 October 2016 20:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja demokraatlikust kuningakorrast.
Kus me neid rahvakuningaid ikka enam leiame.. enda koduküla Kädva-Varbola piirilgi Neli (4) kunagi oina pähe maha löödi kui need siiras usus, arvasid, et nagu mehed mehejuttu siis rääkima lähevad sakstega...
Kuid kas neid muidu keegi üldse mäletakski?
Eeslaslikult tuleb osata tänu ja kasu siitki võtta.
... seega, polnud raisatud ka see misjoon.
Kus me neid rahvakuningaid ikka enam leiame.. enda koduküla Kädva-Varbola piirilgi Neli (4) kunagi oina pähe maha löödi kui need siiras usus, arvasid, et nagu mehed mehejuttu siis rääkima lähevad sakstega...
Kuid kas neid muidu keegi üldse mäletakski?
Eeslaslikult tuleb osata tänu ja kasu siitki võtta.
... seega, polnud raisatud ka see misjoon.
13 October 2016 20:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mul on ideaalne valimiskord juba ammuilma, 7 klassi haridusega välja mõeldud, mis kindlustaks riigi rahvale jäämise ja targeima valitseja valiku väheima manipuleerimisega.
Peakski selle nüüd varsti ülesse panema, kunagi üks hippi seda kirjeldust kuulates, ütles et see on geniaalne segu Niezest ja
Peakski selle nüüd varsti ülesse panema, kunagi üks hippi seda kirjeldust kuulates, ütles et see on geniaalne segu Niezest ja
13 October 2016 20:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
* Suured kulud ja kasutu pole täpsed need sõnad mida kasutasid, tähendus oli selline.
Sellepärast natuke arukamad pidid ka parandama peale su lindistust, et ikkagi presidendil on VÄGA suur võim teha riigile halba kui ta soovib,
likvideerides kogu riigi väline väärtuslik pilt ja sisene moraal.
Lisaks aidates vaenlastel riik lõplikult üle võtta.
Muidugi füüsilisi muutusi oma riigi parandamise osas, see juba tõsine töö, selleks vaja sellise tarkuse ja isikuse tasemel inimesi kellega meid praegu Õnnistatud, kuid eks akent lõhkuda ole alati kergem selle parandamisest, ja selle tegemisest rääkimatagi.
Samamoodi on ka nende positsioonidega, seda positsiooni teha ... see päris töö, selle positsiooni rüvetamine ja sellega suurt kahju ja külma teha, see imelihtne, ....
lihtne on olla, Ebanormaalne
Sellepärast natuke arukamad pidid ka parandama peale su lindistust, et ikkagi presidendil on VÄGA suur võim teha riigile halba kui ta soovib,
likvideerides kogu riigi väline väärtuslik pilt ja sisene moraal.
Lisaks aidates vaenlastel riik lõplikult üle võtta.
Muidugi füüsilisi muutusi oma riigi parandamise osas, see juba tõsine töö, selleks vaja sellise tarkuse ja isikuse tasemel inimesi kellega meid praegu Õnnistatud, kuid eks akent lõhkuda ole alati kergem selle parandamisest, ja selle tegemisest rääkimatagi.
Samamoodi on ka nende positsioonidega, seda positsiooni teha ... see päris töö, selle positsiooni rüvetamine ja sellega suurt kahju ja külma teha, see imelihtne, ....
lihtne on olla, Ebanormaalne
13 October 2016 20:17
Margus Meigo commented on Enit Arusoo's post.
Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiina kaaa!
Muuah!
Minu üks elu kallimaid, ilusat Ilunemisepõlve!
Muuah!
Minu üks elu kallimaid, ilusat Ilunemisepõlve!
13 October 2016 11:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and as anyone growing plants knows, that nothing can come out if You do not separate and make borders between different kinds, so knows every women in a heart but at same time, loving them all with care. some even more.
them do not need to learn this, from expensive schools,
or get access from special clubs,
then just are so,
by Nature
When Relaxed
them do not need to learn this, from expensive schools,
or get access from special clubs,
then just are so,
by Nature
When Relaxed
11 October 2016 16:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Donald is for second option, if everything will go really wrong.. then he will be face and still, nearly same people will sort out the problem, but with unfortunately, longer time period will take to get in to same position where Hillary can take us faster. directly, through a dirt, if needed, she can take it, She is prepared to make a way to who ever comes after Her by then will be a bit of different world for all, who keep up with time
So the image, the actions they reflect is yes, opposite, but as human heart, thing, they are really, in a good way, the one and the same side, just Hillary has the part and reason to play the Right side.
Let's hope this play will end up in a new start as well as that has been planned (and yes, GREAT amount of Hillary own "supporters" when they realize, that Hillary did and EVER does not support their sick agenda, will be disappointing and will sabotage for on the name of great pentagram, A LOT.. but hey.. we are prepared,
i believe )
Anyone in a right mind, can only support Right side
And for women, a label (right-left) is just a label, She is the Side. For women, Earth IS the country.
So the image, the actions they reflect is yes, opposite, but as human heart, thing, they are really, in a good way, the one and the same side, just Hillary has the part and reason to play the Right side.
Let's hope this play will end up in a new start as well as that has been planned (and yes, GREAT amount of Hillary own "supporters" when they realize, that Hillary did and EVER does not support their sick agenda, will be disappointing and will sabotage for on the name of great pentagram, A LOT.. but hey.. we are prepared,
i believe )
Anyone in a right mind, can only support Right side
And for women, a label (right-left) is just a label, She is the Side. For women, Earth IS the country.
11 October 2016 16:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and do we even need to mention that:
Donald_Trump: http://arvutiministeerium.ee/poliitika/usa/donald/1_Donald_Trump_Report_2015.doc
and some Hillary's:
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/poliitika/usa/hillary/5_National_security_transition_planning.doc
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/poliitika/usa/hillary/4_Promises_and%20_Proposals.doc
And You know, as a human, by now am really have not much against Donald, as i know he is just a needed payer for the part, to make most epic show in history, and at times we forget when we play, get lost in a play..
but it has been ALL clear to anyone, that He or anyone who is serious, was newer considering him to be real competitor,
for as long Hillary is alive,
and Thank God, She is, after all these ...
Donald_Trump: http://arvutiministeerium.ee/poliitika/usa/donald/1_Donald_Trump_Report_2015.doc
and some Hillary's:
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/poliitika/usa/hillary/5_National_security_transition_planning.doc
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/poliitika/usa/hillary/4_Promises_and%20_Proposals.doc
And You know, as a human, by now am really have not much against Donald, as i know he is just a needed payer for the part, to make most epic show in history, and at times we forget when we play, get lost in a play..
but it has been ALL clear to anyone, that He or anyone who is serious, was newer considering him to be real competitor,
for as long Hillary is alive,
and Thank God, She is, after all these ...
11 October 2016 16:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and for he's spontaneous sincere humor
and will we ever know, was Bush really joking to let rest of the america be more connected in every level or..
and will we ever know, was Bush really joking to let rest of the america be more connected in every level or..
11 October 2016 16:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You do know, it is a part of a movie script, so take it easy.
As rest of the comedy i keep in my personal notebook, in here, in internet corners.
Love that one also, always kind of secretly liked Bush in a sharm way:
http://buzzofnews.com/index.php/2016/10/08/former-president-george-bush-to-vote-for-hillary-clinton
As rest of the comedy i keep in my personal notebook, in here, in internet corners.
Love that one also, always kind of secretly liked Bush in a sharm way:
http://buzzofnews.com/index.php/2016/10/08/former-president-george-bush-to-vote-for-hillary-clinton
http://buzzofnews.com/index.php/2016/10/08/former-president-george-bush-to-vote-for-hillary-clinton
11 October 2016 16:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nature, that was robber from these peoples, from Siberia to way past of Ukraine
But again, thanks to these Swed Wiking criminals " Rus " who made Russia with Roman Empire.. thanks to them, we perhaps still have one big better nation in the end, whatever the communists did not figure out to eliminate, seeds are on the ground and in spaces between it... so them will rise again..
in 500 years, people will laugh about it (sensible way), look, i laughs about it right now even knowing, that in the edge of surrender, the cowards might drop a dirty bomb out of thousands of treys them have had.. but this will be just like a bad stomach gas, in History...
But yea, people will smile then in wonder, because we can see the REAL documents (there is extra ways to know by then for sure) and actual situation, and how people was in a fear similar situation as in Wizard of Oz
But again, thanks to these Swed Wiking criminals " Rus " who made Russia with Roman Empire.. thanks to them, we perhaps still have one big better nation in the end, whatever the communists did not figure out to eliminate, seeds are on the ground and in spaces between it... so them will rise again..
in 500 years, people will laugh about it (sensible way), look, i laughs about it right now even knowing, that in the edge of surrender, the cowards might drop a dirty bomb out of thousands of treys them have had.. but this will be just like a bad stomach gas, in History...
But yea, people will smile then in wonder, because we can see the REAL documents (there is extra ways to know by then for sure) and actual situation, and how people was in a fear similar situation as in Wizard of Oz
11 October 2016 16:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
it will be a laugh, as any kind of real war capability in Russia will be lost, after Clinton, as then, also soon 1-2 terms, the Russian old order will sift back to a direction of (true) Royal and Nature
11 October 2016 15:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" But in new era, this fake left and right will be sifted, so there will be "pro human" and "anti human" side, for a time, there might be another names for it like "healthy human" and "sick human" as soon is easy to know, nearly any topic instantly, what IS actually beneficial for humans with out argument and what should not be an argument (like is the day better or the night or the evening or the morning, everyone knows most use day more and that whit no night in this world they would not see a lot of day's) "
11 October 2016 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on Denny Davis's post.
Group: DONALD TRUMP COMMANDER IN CHIEF ...... Kekistanis spambot socials
Putin SO afraid of Hillary, it is hilarious!
And to be a pussy and out of communist fear, to surrender to evil and vote as pentagram orders.. how low is that?
Muslims, and Russia for reason are AFRAID of Cinton, and this is because She will break the evil seal and secret co-operation with massive communist cell network that has been there in pre-communist times.11 October 2016 15:39
Margus Meigo commented on Ljupco Nikolovski's post.
Group: DONALD TRUMP COMMANDER IN CHIEF ...... Kekistanis spambot socials
World gets smarter by every hour seems now11 October 2016 15:35
Margus Meigo replied to Heli Madison's comment.
veel saaks uskuda, et meie valitsus tellib sellise ppeade tegemiste mahasalgamiseks ja ilustamiseks midagi, et oma riigi mainet hoida igasuguste kõrvaliste kärukeeramiste kõrval.. kuid sellist asja mustmaiseks tellima hakata.. jeerum.. moni pole vist ar usaanud mis riigis elab D:
11 October 2016 04:59
Margus Meigo replied to Heli Madison's comment.
valitsus, eesti valitsus TELLIS sellise loo, mis sa ise ka aru saad mida ajad v?
11 October 2016 04:58
Margus Meigo commented on Ei usu Siim Kallast's link.
Tubli valik!
11 October 2016 04:57
Margus Meigo commented on Embassy of Georgia Tallinn, Estonia's link.
Good to hear, well run part
11 October 2016 04:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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https://www.facebook.com/EstonianEmbassyInNewDelhi/photos/pcb.976488812462155/976484192462617/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/EstonianEmbassyInNewDelhi/photos/pcb.976488812462155/976484192462617/?type=3&theater
11 October 2016 04:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siinne väike valik, nende jaoks, kes ennast ei peaks hakkama häbistama jälle nagu täis "imbid" jutuga, keda nad tunnevad või mitte ja siis vastvalt sellele teise väärtust hindama.
11 October 2016 04:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Our centre organised a seminar together with the European Commission Representation in Estonia, Moldovan, Georgian and Ukrainian Embassies in Estonia on the occasion of signing the Association Agreements and Deep and Comprehensible Free Trade Agreements between Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine and the EU. Speakers included Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet, Ambassador of Georgia Tea Akhvlediani, Ambassador of Moldova Victor Guzun, Ambassador of Ukraine Viktor Kryzhanivskyi, Deputy Undersecretary of Estonian MFA Kyllike Sillaste-Elling and the Head of the European Commission Representation in Estonia Hannes Rumm. The event was moderated by the center's director Marge Mardisalu-Kahar Embassy of Georgia Tallinn, Estonia Embassy of Moldova to Estonia Embassy of Ukraine in the Republic of Estonia Euroopa Komisjoni esindus Eestis
Photos: Victor Guzun
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Photos: Victor Guzun
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11 October 2016 04:44
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AMBASSADOR PAEZ PRESENTS HER LETTERS OF CREDENCE TO ESTONIA’S PRESIDENT H.E. TOOMAS HENDRIK ILVES
Ambassador Patricia Ann V. Paez presented her Letters of Credence to Estonia’s President H.E. Toomas Hendrik Ilves in Tallinn last 17 September 17, 2013; thus, completing her official accreditation as the Philippines’ envoy to Estonia. She also conveyed the warmest greetings of President Benigno S. Aquino III to President Ilves.
After the ceremony for the Presentation of the Credentials, Amb. Paez had an audience with President Ilves where she shared her key objective to forge cooperation with Estonia in the areas of cyber security, cyber legislation, e-governance and in the “ease of doing business” - areas which are Estonia’s strengths and from which the Philippines has so much to learn.
She also recalled President Ilves’ statement that “a computer cannot be bribed” with reference to his strides in e-governance that has fosted transparency and which has helped elimitate corruption. She informed him that President Aquino has likewise been waging a relentless campaign against graft and corruption. She added that this is exemplied by the Philippine government’s e-procurement where bidding and awards for government contracts are posted in government agencies’ websites.
Amb. Paez noted that Estonia, under the visionary stewardship of President Ilves, is now the e-country of the world, the global leader in e-governance, and has been ranked No. 1 in Internet Freedom by the Freedom House. Amb. Paez also congratulated President Ilves for his transformational leadership as attested by Estonia’s ranking as the 5th most successful transformation country in the world out of 128 countries in the Bertelsman Transformation Index.
She informed President Ilves that the Philippine economy grew by 7.6% for the first half of this year and noted that Estonia’s economy is also projected to grow by 3% this year, despite the eurozone crisis.
Amb. Paez informed the Estonian President that the Philippine Embassy will participate in Estonia’s Tourest Travel Trade Fair, which is spearheaded by the Estonian Travel and Tourism Association. She also thanked Estonia for its support for Philippine candidatures within the UN system and requested for its support for new candidatures.
The Philippine envoy expressed strong interest in the work of the e-Governance Academy in Tallinn. President Ilves urged her to visit the Academy which the Foreign Ministry’s Protocol Office immediately arranged.
Also present during the meeting at the Office of the President were Foreign Policy Adviser to the President Mr. Margus Laidre; the Head of the Foreign Policy Department Ms. Kai Kaarelson; and the Counsellor for Asia, Africa, Australia, and Latin America of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs’ Political Department.
During her visit to Estonia, Amb. Paez also met with the following: MFA’s Chief of Protocol Mr. Andres Tomasberg, MFA’s Undersecretary on Political Affairs Ms. Kyllike Sillaste-Elling; Director of the Division for Asia, Africa, Australia and Latin America of the MFA’s Political Department Ms. Martin Mottus; Counsellor of the same Division Mr. Andres Talvik; Secretary General of the Estonian Association of Travel Agents Ms. Kristen Lahtein; Project Manager Ms. Mariann Grencstein; the Ministry of Culture’s Undersecretary for Arts Mr. Ragnar Siil; Ministry of Culture’s Senior Specialist of the International Relations Department Ms. Reet Palis; Director General of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry Mr. Mait Palts; officials of the Ministry of Economic Affairs and Communication, namely the Head of the European Union and International Cooperation Division Mr. Martin Roger; Advisor of the Economic Development Mr. Oliver Ait; and Executive Officer of the International Market Department Mr. Martti Kalvik; Executive Director of the e-Governance Academy Mr. Arvo Ott; and its Training Manager Ms. Annela Kiirats.
Estonia is completely covered by digital mobile phone networks and in terms of DSL penetration, it ranks among the Top Ten in the world. Seventy-eight percent of its 1.3 million population are Internet users and sevenrty-five percent of its households have access to the Internet at home. Its bureaucracy has been paperless since 2003 and Cabinet meetings have been changed to paperless sessions using a web-based document system. Its economy is the 13th freest economy in the world out of 177 countries which were ranked in the Washington D.C.-based Heritage Foundation’s Index of Economic Freedom. Estonia has also been ranked 21st in terms of “ease of doing business” by the World Bank. Anybody can set up and register an enterprise or business entity in Estonia electronically in 18 minutes. Ninety-nine percent of Estonians also conduct banking transactions through electronic means.
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Ambassador Patricia Ann V. Paez presented her Letters of Credence to Estonia’s President H.E. Toomas Hendrik Ilves in Tallinn last 17 September 17, 2013; thus, completing her official accreditation as the Philippines’ envoy to Estonia. She also conveyed the warmest greetings of President Benigno S. Aquino III to President Ilves.
After the ceremony for the Presentation of the Credentials, Amb. Paez had an audience with President Ilves where she shared her key objective to forge cooperation with Estonia in the areas of cyber security, cyber legislation, e-governance and in the “ease of doing business” - areas which are Estonia’s strengths and from which the Philippines has so much to learn.
She also recalled President Ilves’ statement that “a computer cannot be bribed” with reference to his strides in e-governance that has fosted transparency and which has helped elimitate corruption. She informed him that President Aquino has likewise been waging a relentless campaign against graft and corruption. She added that this is exemplied by the Philippine government’s e-procurement where bidding and awards for government contracts are posted in government agencies’ websites.
Amb. Paez noted that Estonia, under the visionary stewardship of President Ilves, is now the e-country of the world, the global leader in e-governance, and has been ranked No. 1 in Internet Freedom by the Freedom House. Amb. Paez also congratulated President Ilves for his transformational leadership as attested by Estonia’s ranking as the 5th most successful transformation country in the world out of 128 countries in the Bertelsman Transformation Index.
She informed President Ilves that the Philippine economy grew by 7.6% for the first half of this year and noted that Estonia’s economy is also projected to grow by 3% this year, despite the eurozone crisis.
Amb. Paez informed the Estonian President that the Philippine Embassy will participate in Estonia’s Tourest Travel Trade Fair, which is spearheaded by the Estonian Travel and Tourism Association. She also thanked Estonia for its support for Philippine candidatures within the UN system and requested for its support for new candidatures.
The Philippine envoy expressed strong interest in the work of the e-Governance Academy in Tallinn. President Ilves urged her to visit the Academy which the Foreign Ministry’s Protocol Office immediately arranged.
Also present during the meeting at the Office of the President were Foreign Policy Adviser to the President Mr. Margus Laidre; the Head of the Foreign Policy Department Ms. Kai Kaarelson; and the Counsellor for Asia, Africa, Australia, and Latin America of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs’ Political Department.
During her visit to Estonia, Amb. Paez also met with the following: MFA’s Chief of Protocol Mr. Andres Tomasberg, MFA’s Undersecretary on Political Affairs Ms. Kyllike Sillaste-Elling; Director of the Division for Asia, Africa, Australia and Latin America of the MFA’s Political Department Ms. Martin Mottus; Counsellor of the same Division Mr. Andres Talvik; Secretary General of the Estonian Association of Travel Agents Ms. Kristen Lahtein; Project Manager Ms. Mariann Grencstein; the Ministry of Culture’s Undersecretary for Arts Mr. Ragnar Siil; Ministry of Culture’s Senior Specialist of the International Relations Department Ms. Reet Palis; Director General of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry Mr. Mait Palts; officials of the Ministry of Economic Affairs and Communication, namely the Head of the European Union and International Cooperation Division Mr. Martin Roger; Advisor of the Economic Development Mr. Oliver Ait; and Executive Officer of the International Market Department Mr. Martti Kalvik; Executive Director of the e-Governance Academy Mr. Arvo Ott; and its Training Manager Ms. Annela Kiirats.
Estonia is completely covered by digital mobile phone networks and in terms of DSL penetration, it ranks among the Top Ten in the world. Seventy-eight percent of its 1.3 million population are Internet users and sevenrty-five percent of its households have access to the Internet at home. Its bureaucracy has been paperless since 2003 and Cabinet meetings have been changed to paperless sessions using a web-based document system. Its economy is the 13th freest economy in the world out of 177 countries which were ranked in the Washington D.C.-based Heritage Foundation’s Index of Economic Freedom. Estonia has also been ranked 21st in terms of “ease of doing business” by the World Bank. Anybody can set up and register an enterprise or business entity in Estonia electronically in 18 minutes. Ninety-nine percent of Estonians also conduct banking transactions through electronic means.
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11 October 2016 04:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
25 მაისს, ესტონეთში ევროკომისიის წარმომადგენლობაში გაიმართა სემინარი „აღმოსავლეთ პარტნიორობის“ რიგის სამიტის შედეგების შეჯამებისა და მსჯელობის მიზნით, რომელზეც მომხსენებლად წარსდგნენ ესტონეთის რესპუბლიკაში საქართველოს ელჩი თეა ახვლედიანი, მოლდოვას ელჩი ვიქტორ გუზუნი და უკრაინის ელჩი ვიქტორ კრიჟანივსკი. ამასთანავე, ევროკავშირის თავმჯდომარე ქვეყნის სახელით სიტყვით გამოვიდა ესტონეთში ლატვიის ელჩი იურის ბონე.
ესტონური მხრიდან სემინარში მონაწილეობა მიიღო ესტონეთის საგარეო საქმეთა ...
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ესტონური მხრიდან სემინარში მონაწილეობა მიიღო ესტონეთის საგარეო საქმეთა ...
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11 October 2016 04:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Entretien avec Son Excellence Madame Kyllike Sillaste-Elling, Vice Ministre des Affaires Etrangères de l Estonie en marge de la huitième Conférence ministérielle de la Communauté des Démocraties
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11 October 2016 04:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
First day's opening panel at Security area "Is the war coming or not?"
Moderator Elina Seppet (Ministry of Defence) Panelists:
Jüri Luik (International Centre for Defence and Security)
Marko Mihkelson (Estonian Parliament’s Chairman of the National Defence Commission)
Kyllike Sillaste-Elling (Ministry of Foreign Affairs Undersecretary of Political Affairs Directorate)
Riho Terras (Head of the Estonian Defence Forces)
https://www.facebook.com/203447508641/photos/a.10155174696788642.1073741876.203447508641/10155174700788642/?type=3
Moderator Elina Seppet (Ministry of Defence) Panelists:
Jüri Luik (International Centre for Defence and Security)
Marko Mihkelson (Estonian Parliament’s Chairman of the National Defence Commission)
Kyllike Sillaste-Elling (Ministry of Foreign Affairs Undersecretary of Political Affairs Directorate)
Riho Terras (Head of the Estonian Defence Forces)
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11 October 2016 04:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Välisministeeriumi poliitikaküsimuste asekantsler Kyllike Sillaste-Elling:
"Mitmed liitlased on öelnud, et NATO Varssavi tippkohtumise olulisim tulem saab olema ühtsuse rõhutamine. Paljude liitlaste jaoks on oluline dialoog: Venemaaga peab rääkima, kuid tugevalt positsioonilt, ja seda ei saa teha enne, kui NATO enda heidutushoiak on paigas. Meile on veel tähtis, et Varssavis võetakse vastu ühine deklaratsioon, millega NATO ja Euroopa Liit otsustavad rohkem koostööd teha. Meie jaoks on see oluline, kuna meie lähedased naabris Rootsi ja Soome on EL-is, aga mitte NATO-s."
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"Mitmed liitlased on öelnud, et NATO Varssavi tippkohtumise olulisim tulem saab olema ühtsuse rõhutamine. Paljude liitlaste jaoks on oluline dialoog: Venemaaga peab rääkima, kuid tugevalt positsioonilt, ja seda ei saa teha enne, kui NATO enda heidutushoiak on paigas. Meile on veel tähtis, et Varssavis võetakse vastu ühine deklaratsioon, millega NATO ja Euroopa Liit otsustavad rohkem koostööd teha. Meie jaoks on see oluline, kuna meie lähedased naabris Rootsi ja Soome on EL-is, aga mitte NATO-s."
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11 October 2016 04:36
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First day's opening panel at Security area "Is the war coming or not?"
Moderator Elina Seppet (Ministry of Defence) Panelists:
Jüri Luik (International Centre for Defence and Security)
Marko Mihkelson (Estonian Parliament’s Chairman of the National Defence Commission)
Kyllike Sillaste-Elling (Ministry of Foreign Affairs Undersecretary of Political Affairs Directorate)
Riho Terras (Head of the Estonian Defence Forces)
https://www.facebook.com/203447508641/photos/a.10155174696788642.1073741876.203447508641/10155174700823642/?type=3&theater
Moderator Elina Seppet (Ministry of Defence) Panelists:
Jüri Luik (International Centre for Defence and Security)
Marko Mihkelson (Estonian Parliament’s Chairman of the National Defence Commission)
Kyllike Sillaste-Elling (Ministry of Foreign Affairs Undersecretary of Political Affairs Directorate)
Riho Terras (Head of the Estonian Defence Forces)
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11 October 2016 04:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Oma 10. sünnipäeva puhul helistas Diplomaatia vanameister Henry Kissingerile (vestluse jäädvustas Marek Strandberg). Maestro jäi meiega rahule.
Ja on ka põhjust, sest täna ilmunud värskes ajakirjanumbris kirjutavad igati lugupeetud inimesed: Mart Laar, Marko Mihkelson, Kyllike Sillaste-Elling, Kaarel Tarand, Toomas Kiho, Richard Weitz ning Kadri Jõgi.
Mine leia oma eksemplar kas raamatupoest või ajalehekioskist - või veel parem, telli Diplomaatia terveks aastaks otse kodusesse postkasti!
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Ja on ka põhjust, sest täna ilmunud värskes ajakirjanumbris kirjutavad igati lugupeetud inimesed: Mart Laar, Marko Mihkelson, Kyllike Sillaste-Elling, Kaarel Tarand, Toomas Kiho, Richard Weitz ning Kadri Jõgi.
Mine leia oma eksemplar kas raamatupoest või ajalehekioskist - või veel parem, telli Diplomaatia terveks aastaks otse kodusesse postkasti!
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11 October 2016 04:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Diskussiooni avas peaminister Taavi Rõivas.
Arutelus osalesid Rahvusvahelise Kaitseuuringute Keskuse direktor Jüri Luik, Kaitseministeeriumi kantsler Jonatan Vseviov, Välisministeeriumi poliitikaküsimuste asekantsler Kyllike Sillaste-Elling, kindralleitnant erus Johannes Kert ning julgeolekuekspert Eerik-Niiles Eerik N Kross
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Arutelus osalesid Rahvusvahelise Kaitseuuringute Keskuse direktor Jüri Luik, Kaitseministeeriumi kantsler Jonatan Vseviov, Välisministeeriumi poliitikaküsimuste asekantsler Kyllike Sillaste-Elling, kindralleitnant erus Johannes Kert ning julgeolekuekspert Eerik-Niiles Eerik N Kross
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11 October 2016 04:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Today, May 25, Managing Director of ECEAP Mrs Marge Mardisalu-Kahar moderated the seminar "Eastern Partnership Riga Summit: EU integration expectations of the Associated Partners". The seminar was initiated by the Ambassadors of the three Associated Partners, H.E. Mrs Tea Akhvlediani, Mr Victor Guzun and Mr Viktor Kryzhanivskyi who shared their national perspectives for the future development and cooperation with the EU in the light of the Riga declaration. The Ambassador of Latvia H.E. Mr. Juris Bone delivered a message from the Presidency of the Council of the European Union and Kyllike Sillaste-Elling, Undersecretary from the Estonian Ministry of Foreign Affairs highlighted the importance of the Eastern Partnership for Estonia.
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11 October 2016 04:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.Ministro Martínez se reúne con subsecretaria de Asuntos Políticos de Estonia
El ministro de Relaciones Exteriores, Hugo Martínez, sostuvo esta tarde una reunión con la subsecretaria de Asuntos Políticos de Estonia, Kyllike-Sillaste Elling, en el marco de la VIII Conferencia Ministerial de la Comunidad de las Democracias, para tratar diferentes temas de interés para ambos gobiernos.
Entre los temas que se abordaron en este encuentro se mencionó el interés de El Salvador por estrechar los lazos diplomáticos, así como desarrollar acciones conjuntas que permitan el fortalecimiento y ampliación de las relaciones políticas, económicas, de cooperación e inversión.
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El ministro de Relaciones Exteriores, Hugo Martínez, sostuvo esta tarde una reunión con la subsecretaria de Asuntos Políticos de Estonia, Kyllike-Sillaste Elling, en el marco de la VIII Conferencia Ministerial de la Comunidad de las Democracias, para tratar diferentes temas de interés para ambos gobiernos.
Entre los temas que se abordaron en este encuentro se mencionó el interés de El Salvador por estrechar los lazos diplomáticos, así como desarrollar acciones conjuntas que permitan el fortalecimiento y ampliación de las relaciones políticas, económicas, de cooperación e inversión.
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11 October 2016 04:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.Julgeolekuküsimustest kõnelesid välisministeeriumi poliitikaküsimuste asekantsler Kyllike Sillaste-Elling ja siseministeeriumi sisejulgeolekupoliitika asekantsleri Erkki Koort.
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11 October 2016 04:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.Peaministrite ootel on Andrus Ansipi meeskond koosseisus Aare Järvan, Toomas Kiho, Kyllike Sillaste-Elling, Märt Volmer, Liina Kersna ja suursaadik Jaan Hein.
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11 October 2016 04:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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11 October 2016 04:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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11 October 2016 04:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.Valgetähe III klass. Suursaadik Kyllike Sillaste-Elling – välisministeeriumi poliitikaküsimuste asekantsler, Eesti välisteenistuse ja välissuhtluse oluline kujundaja, kelle sõnul peab meie välispoliitika olema võimalikult nutikas.
Foto: Andres Putting/Vabariigi Presidendi Kantselei — at Vene Teater
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Foto: Andres Putting/Vabariigi Presidendi Kantselei — at Vene Teater
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11 October 2016 04:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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11 October 2016 04:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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11 October 2016 04:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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11 October 2016 04:23
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Liisa Sarapik's photo.
Tsauks, Anne, mis Sul selle albumi priv. settingud muidu on?
Et kui pilti jagan, kas siis ainult osadele nähtav või kõigile?
Hea olek kui kõigile..
Et kui pilti jagan, kas siis ainult osadele nähtav või kõigile?
Hea olek kui kõigile..
11 October 2016 04:22
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Liisa Sarapik's photo.
" Kersti Kaljulaid nimetas valisvälisnõunikuks Torontost pärist Kyllike Sillaste-Elling'u.
Kyllike Sillaste-Elling on diplomaat ja välispoliitika ekspert, kes praegu töötab välisministeeriumi poliitikaküsimuste asekantslerina.
Toomas Hendrik Ilves nimetas Kyllike Sillaste-Ellingu suursaadikuks ja Eesti alaliseks esindajaks NATO juures alates 2017. aasta 1. augustist
Varem on ta töötanud eri ametikohtadel välisministeeriumis, Eesti saatkonnas Londonis ja Washingtonis ning välispoliitika nõunikuna peaministri büroos.
Ühtlasi kutsus president alates 2017. aasta 31. juulist tagasi Lauri Lepiku, Eesti praeguse alalise esindaja NATO juures. "
Kyllike Sillaste-Elling on diplomaat ja välispoliitika ekspert, kes praegu töötab välisministeeriumi poliitikaküsimuste asekantslerina.
Toomas Hendrik Ilves nimetas Kyllike Sillaste-Ellingu suursaadikuks ja Eesti alaliseks esindajaks NATO juures alates 2017. aasta 1. augustist
Varem on ta töötanud eri ametikohtadel välisministeeriumis, Eesti saatkonnas Londonis ja Washingtonis ning välispoliitika nõunikuna peaministri büroos.
Ühtlasi kutsus president alates 2017. aasta 31. juulist tagasi Lauri Lepiku, Eesti praeguse alalise esindaja NATO juures. "
11 October 2016 04:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid egamu emps miski n00b ple, et java'ga chättaks :p
11 October 2016 02:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
11 October 2016 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Hillar Kohvi grupp
lomulikult ei peaks miljardeid kellegi tasku minema, kuid tasuta asjadega, mis EI OLE tasuta, tuleks ka ikka piiri pidada, tasuta on sul oblikad mis majataga kasvavad ja päike mis paistab,
kuid kui sule reaalsest maavarades on vaja sulatada liininid ja need maaalla kaevata ja hooldada jms tuhandeid inimesi tööl hoida, siis see ei saa olla tasuta,10 October 2016 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on Hillar Kohv's post.
Group: Hillar Kohvi grupp
kui mitu eestlast sul ise neid liine tasuta hooldamas soovib käia10 October 2016 23:27
Margus Meigo commented on Hillar Kohv's post.
Group: Hillar Kohvi grupp
Jah, vana hea lugu,
Onneks oleme hakanud sellistega tegelema ka10 October 2016 23:23
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
not much to like here...
besides the great artistic effort to show it so well..
besides the great artistic effort to show it so well..
10 October 2016 19:02
Margus Meigo replied to Stella K. Wadowsky's comment.
Raul, Üldiselt, kehtib arvamus, et kes Kerstit ei tea, nende teadmised ja soov teada on nii ebaolulised ja väärad, et ei loe mingisuguse arvamusena nagunii,
ainult diagnoosiks sobib, et siis kuidas ravida selliseid... kuid keegiei hakka ju päris sassis ja kiusupärast teadmatuses olevate inimestega võrdselt nagu adekvaatsetega miskit diskusjooni arutama, sellel pole mõtet sest hoopis erinevad tasemed ja eesmärgid.
Arusaaja tahab arusaama panna ja jonniajaja ajab lihtsalt oma jonni, oma teadmatusest, ise isegi veel mitte arusaades, et see ei ole mingi viisakas asi mitte teada,see pole asi millega lehvitada, see peaks häbiasi olema, kuidas see järsku nüüd slooganiks paljudele saanud?
Selle kohta üks tubli neegri mees on hea kokkuvõtte teinud, selgituse, avastasin ka siis tema jutust, et see mure kehtib ka igal muul maal, siin aga peaks kuidas selliseid valgeid kutsuma?
(kuulake, ertiti seda kohta Teadmistest.. "I keep it real")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4
Mõtlesingi temale saata kirja, et ärgu arvaku, et see mure ainult nendekomuunis on.. et vaimupuudulikus ja soov mitte arusaada tuleneb vist ikka millegist muust, vast sest lasti raisku ema ema armastus
ainult diagnoosiks sobib, et siis kuidas ravida selliseid... kuid keegiei hakka ju päris sassis ja kiusupärast teadmatuses olevate inimestega võrdselt nagu adekvaatsetega miskit diskusjooni arutama, sellel pole mõtet sest hoopis erinevad tasemed ja eesmärgid.
Arusaaja tahab arusaama panna ja jonniajaja ajab lihtsalt oma jonni, oma teadmatusest, ise isegi veel mitte arusaades, et see ei ole mingi viisakas asi mitte teada,see pole asi millega lehvitada, see peaks häbiasi olema, kuidas see järsku nüüd slooganiks paljudele saanud?
Selle kohta üks tubli neegri mees on hea kokkuvõtte teinud, selgituse, avastasin ka siis tema jutust, et see mure kehtib ka igal muul maal, siin aga peaks kuidas selliseid valgeid kutsuma?
(kuulake, ertiti seda kohta Teadmistest.. "I keep it real")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4
Mõtlesingi temale saata kirja, et ärgu arvaku, et see mure ainult nendekomuunis on.. et vaimupuudulikus ja soov mitte arusaada tuleneb vist ikka millegist muust, vast sest lasti raisku ema ema armastus
10 October 2016 18:10
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Raudsepp's comment.
Räige oli see mis Sina kirjutasid Raul, mis selle tähenduse taga on, mina peegeldasin maiselt, et maapeale tuua
10 October 2016 18:00
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Raudsepp's comment.
oh ei märganud, et Sina Raul.. kle sina küll arengupuudusega ei peaks olema ju?!
Miks Sina siin nii koledaid asju krija fantaseerid ?
Miks Sina siin nii koledaid asju krija fantaseerid ?
10 October 2016 18:00
Margus Meigo replied to Pavka Reiland's comment.
Need iniemsed kes ei oska isegi näha, et see Eesti õnnistus on, nii elementaarseid asju mis silme ees ei oska näha, need inimesed ei peaks fantaseerima "tagatubade" asjadest,
peaks piirduma oma reaalse tagatoa koristmaisega, ning olema õnnelik, et on tarkasi inimesi siin riigis pisavalt, kes võimu headuse kätte suutis anda
peaks piirduma oma reaalse tagatoa koristmaisega, ning olema õnnelik, et on tarkasi inimesi siin riigis pisavalt, kes võimu headuse kätte suutis anda
10 October 2016 17:58
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Komarov's comment.
võid aadressi saata 522 90 41, varem või hiljem ikka jõuame kohale!
10 October 2016 17:57
Margus Meigo replied to Andrus Komarov's comment.
Et võin tulla?
Kus kandis oled?
Kus kandis oled?
10 October 2016 17:56
Margus Meigo replied to Ilmar Randmaa's comment.
ja mis siis on viga siin kirjandil ja presidendil ,kes kõikidest ootustest on nii mitu pügalat üle, et veel osadele pole siiamaani kohale jõudnud
10 October 2016 17:56
Margus Meigo replied to Leo Tamm's comment.
Kersti vastaste puhul peaks see asutus olema psühiaatria haigla või siis kirik, olgu Looja node kadunud hingedele armulik..
10 October 2016 17:55
Margus Meigo replied to Tarmo Multanen's comment.
Kas on veel küsimusi, MIKS ?
Sest et ma saaksin need asjad siis kõik avalikustada, internetti panna ja veel päris puupeale selgeks teha miks mis asjad on olulised või miks mis asjad ei ole olulised.
Igasuguste inimeste kommentaaride puhul, enne selle sisu, pead uurima ja vaatama KES ütles ja mis ajal. Siis saad alles tema sõnadest aru, sest ega me robotid pole, et andmed on ilma ideoloogiliste poolteta.
Sest et ma saaksin need asjad siis kõik avalikustada, internetti panna ja veel päris puupeale selgeks teha miks mis asjad on olulised või miks mis asjad ei ole olulised.
Igasuguste inimeste kommentaaride puhul, enne selle sisu, pead uurima ja vaatama KES ütles ja mis ajal. Siis saad alles tema sõnadest aru, sest ega me robotid pole, et andmed on ilma ideoloogiliste poolteta.
10 October 2016 17:54
Margus Meigo replied to Tarmo Multanen's comment.
Muidugi, isegi kui Sa sportlikust huvist oled kogunud kokku midagi (mis väga tore) siis kuna seda vigase meelestatuse ja katkise südamega teinud oled, on kahjuks kasutegur olnud miinus, sest ei märgnaud sina vist, et
Siimu,
sinna sisse mässis teda lähedselt veenanud sõbrakesed kellele ka selle pealt päris kõvasti pätid maksid, üks lausa pool millionit sai ja väga rahul oli oma poolega. Teda keegi ei süüdista millegis.
Pätid mitmes pangas neid skeeme proovisid, sest looduseadus on, et lõpuks ikka kellegi hea südame otsa satud kui jätkusuutlik oled ning nii juhtus ka Siimu puhul, kui nad juba eestis kõiki teisi pankasi enne läbiproovinud olid ja eitava vastuse saanud.
Oli ju algselt plaan, et sellest ka MEIE RIIGILE kasu tuleb, kui petumeeste jutt tõele oleks vastanud, kuid sõprade veendmisega kes siis alatusest või rahamaigust.... inimese viga ei ole see, et ta on inimene, seda ette heita on suht alatu!
Kui Sa oma paberihunnikus tuhnid,siis ehk näed, et need vabamüürlaste itaalia loosid ja maafiad, kes olevat seotud olnud, et neist ei räägita palju meedias.. ja täeisti vaikitakse, et see põhi inimene, põhi pätt, on SIIAMAANI KADUNUD kes võtmeisik ja tegija oli.
Ja sina nüüd oma kibestumises, mida riigivastased Su peasse ajanud on, usud, et Siim suutis petta ära itaalia sala politsei, interpolli ja kogu eesti uurimisorganid (mis muidugi interpolli korval on köki-möki). .sis tagatipuks kõikidelt 7 melt teiselt osaliselt ja maafial vaiba jalgealt tõmmata ja neilt see raha ka omakorda võtta ära ja enda tasku panna , kas Sa oled ikka tervemõistuslik või? Kui midagi sellist mõted, tõsimeeli.
Kas Sa pole aru saanud, mis asi Tallnna TV on ? Miks selles kodumaa vastalises meelestatuses olla VABATAHTLIKULT ?
Siimu,
sinna sisse mässis teda lähedselt veenanud sõbrakesed kellele ka selle pealt päris kõvasti pätid maksid, üks lausa pool millionit sai ja väga rahul oli oma poolega. Teda keegi ei süüdista millegis.
Pätid mitmes pangas neid skeeme proovisid, sest looduseadus on, et lõpuks ikka kellegi hea südame otsa satud kui jätkusuutlik oled ning nii juhtus ka Siimu puhul, kui nad juba eestis kõiki teisi pankasi enne läbiproovinud olid ja eitava vastuse saanud.
Oli ju algselt plaan, et sellest ka MEIE RIIGILE kasu tuleb, kui petumeeste jutt tõele oleks vastanud, kuid sõprade veendmisega kes siis alatusest või rahamaigust.... inimese viga ei ole see, et ta on inimene, seda ette heita on suht alatu!
Kui Sa oma paberihunnikus tuhnid,siis ehk näed, et need vabamüürlaste itaalia loosid ja maafiad, kes olevat seotud olnud, et neist ei räägita palju meedias.. ja täeisti vaikitakse, et see põhi inimene, põhi pätt, on SIIAMAANI KADUNUD kes võtmeisik ja tegija oli.
Ja sina nüüd oma kibestumises, mida riigivastased Su peasse ajanud on, usud, et Siim suutis petta ära itaalia sala politsei, interpolli ja kogu eesti uurimisorganid (mis muidugi interpolli korval on köki-möki). .sis tagatipuks kõikidelt 7 melt teiselt osaliselt ja maafial vaiba jalgealt tõmmata ja neilt see raha ka omakorda võtta ära ja enda tasku panna , kas Sa oled ikka tervemõistuslik või? Kui midagi sellist mõted, tõsimeeli.
Kas Sa pole aru saanud, mis asi Tallnna TV on ? Miks selles kodumaa vastalises meelestatuses olla VABATAHTLIKULT ?
10 October 2016 17:53
Margus Meigo replied to Tarmo Multanen's comment.
Tarmo, ehk laeksid need dokumendid mida Sul "kõvakettatäis" on (jutuks hea küll) minu serverisse:
ftp: arvutiministeerium.ee ,
kasutaja: vhost45235f1 parooL: alustuseks
Meest sõnast, või kardad jagada oma avastamisrõõme?
ftp: arvutiministeerium.ee ,
kasutaja: vhost45235f1 parooL: alustuseks
Meest sõnast, või kardad jagada oma avastamisrõõme?
10 October 2016 17:44
Margus Meigo replied to Jaanus Glaase's comment.
Jaanus, igasugune vähegi teadlik inimene, saigi ainult Siimu poolt kahe käe ja südamega olla, sest tema oli algselt loodud meieriigi päästeteeks, kuid kuna mustamaailma rünnakud olid ni suured, siis Eesti Süda pidi oma tegelike võimeid näitama ja kogu selle pundi niimitmekordse ilu ja armastusega üle külvama, et ühelgil vastasel kes vähegi oma respekti hoida soovivad, ei oleks midagi mitu aastat öelda
Seega vaimuilma muutus tõi meile veelgi suurema, ja parema.. kellel ei oleks kuidagi sobinud algses poriloopimise võistluses osaleda,
Kas Sa Saad TÕSISELT südames olla kriitiline nüüd selle imelise Naise olemust ja saavutusi siinses robotiilmas vaadata, ni äri, poliiitika kui teaduse maailmas lisaks olulisele: perele ?
Niisama jonnid või sul on tõepoolest tõsisied probleeme headuse tundmisega?
Seega vaimuilma muutus tõi meile veelgi suurema, ja parema.. kellel ei oleks kuidagi sobinud algses poriloopimise võistluses osaleda,
Kas Sa Saad TÕSISELT südames olla kriitiline nüüd selle imelise Naise olemust ja saavutusi siinses robotiilmas vaadata, ni äri, poliiitika kui teaduse maailmas lisaks olulisele: perele ?
Niisama jonnid või sul on tõepoolest tõsisied probleeme headuse tundmisega?
10 October 2016 17:38
Margus Meigo replied to Tõnis Virovere's comment.
Tõnis, sinu pettumus tundub olema siiras erinevalt enamuste väheste allesjäänud arusaamatute omadest kes seda sportlikust huvist ja kodumaavastasusest teevad, kuid kas tõesti, maa inimesena, sobib Sinul midagi nii ebatarka rääkida nüüd?
Mõtle ka kellest Sa räägid, sellise tarkuse ja potensiaali ning oleku ja hetke ajastu s ei suudaks ükski väõlur ka midagi veel ideaalsemat välja võluda vanajumala enda abiga.
Kuigi, eks see viimaste abil teks sai, kuid see selleks.
Tõesti, Siim Kallas oleks olnud ka hea (kuigi tema profiil rikuti 10mil luuluga ära mis välisluure poolt org kuulujutt, see selleks), tema ka südamega inimene ammusest ajast Eesti nimel,
kuid praegune õnnistus, see on peaaegu müstiline, kuidas on üldse võimalik kritiseerida kritiseerimatut.
Ükskõik kuipalju elu ja headus me heaks saavutab, kas ikka pole piisavalt? On ju ?
Mõtle ka kellest Sa räägid, sellise tarkuse ja potensiaali ning oleku ja hetke ajastu s ei suudaks ükski väõlur ka midagi veel ideaalsemat välja võluda vanajumala enda abiga.
Kuigi, eks see viimaste abil teks sai, kuid see selleks.
Tõesti, Siim Kallas oleks olnud ka hea (kuigi tema profiil rikuti 10mil luuluga ära mis välisluure poolt org kuulujutt, see selleks), tema ka südamega inimene ammusest ajast Eesti nimel,
kuid praegune õnnistus, see on peaaegu müstiline, kuidas on üldse võimalik kritiseerida kritiseerimatut.
Ükskõik kuipalju elu ja headus me heaks saavutab, kas ikka pole piisavalt? On ju ?
10 October 2016 17:33
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Kuidas meil ikka nii hästi vedas, see on paras müstika !
10 October 2016 17:25
Margus Meigo commented on Silver Tambur's post.
Gift from above!
Truly, hard to be luckier with president then She is, in any land
Truly, hard to be luckier with president then She is, in any land
10 October 2016 17:25
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Karolin's post.
Nii Supper hea!
10 October 2016 17:24
Margus Meigo replied to Mary Jordan's comment.
the problem sometimes is with people, that them would sometimes not know, what they need
we have to figure out how to regulate truth and reality before direct election
we have to figure out how to regulate truth and reality before direct election
10 October 2016 17:24
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Roop's post.
Lets be honest Mary: it is Gift from God(ess) !
10 October 2016 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Johanson's post.
Vau, ilus!
Tore Leid!
Tore Leid!
10 October 2016 17:02
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Küll tark naine teab, keda kuhu valida, hea valik! : )
Väga suure pagasiga ja äärmiselt toimekas ka Kyllike
Väga suure pagasiga ja äärmiselt toimekas ka Kyllike
10 October 2016 16:58
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Nõlvak's comment.
järgmiseks hakatakse ukerdavaid naisi vangistavaid tikkontsakingi ka veel nõudma ja nailon sätendavaid kleite linase asemel :D
10 October 2016 16:56
Margus Meigo replied to Anu Laineste's comment.
Täpselt nii, võtsid mu mõtted kokku kenasti!
10 October 2016 16:55
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Nõlvak's comment.
Ei pea kindlasti teda esinduslikumaks pealiskaudsemate ebapraktilisemate rõivaste osas tuunima,
vaja JUST on jääda naturaalselt naturaalseks ja tavapäraseks, sest just see on see mis eraldab teda kõikidest, kui esinduslikud reas on
Rahvusliku kerge stiili suunas muidugi, rahva nimel, see oleks mõteldav liigutus.
Kuid arvatvasti õnneks tema ennast niisama vorpida ei lase, vaid jääb Just selliseks, nagu tal vaja meie südametesse end kirjutada
vaja JUST on jääda naturaalselt naturaalseks ja tavapäraseks, sest just see on see mis eraldab teda kõikidest, kui esinduslikud reas on
Rahvusliku kerge stiili suunas muidugi, rahva nimel, see oleks mõteldav liigutus.
Kuid arvatvasti õnneks tema ennast niisama vorpida ei lase, vaid jääb Just selliseks, nagu tal vaja meie südametesse end kirjutada
10 October 2016 16:54
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnu Mäestu's photo.
Looduskunstiline
10 October 2016 16:50
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnu Mäestu's photo.
Ma juba ehmatasin, et kloonimeri Sul seljataga,
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eks seda kõike siin ka üritatakse (vajaliku kloonimised), head kopeerida korporatsiooni kasutuseks, selleasemel, et lasta inimeseloomal kasvada (heas õiguses) ja õpetada tegema (head)
Kuid egas midagi, tuleb terad eemaldada.. ja pinda hoida
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eks seda kõike siin ka üritatakse (vajaliku kloonimised), head kopeerida korporatsiooni kasutuseks, selleasemel, et lasta inimeseloomal kasvada (heas õiguses) ja õpetada tegema (head)
Kuid egas midagi, tuleb terad eemaldada.. ja pinda hoida
10 October 2016 16:49
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnu Mäestu's photo.
Noorus ei kao iial, see südameasi . )
10 October 2016 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnu Mäestu's photo.
Nii need head mõttet tulevad!
10 October 2016 16:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
something with soul and spirit, that can help to make a life, that your own femine give birth to, for you
10 October 2016 16:37
Margus Meigo commented on Precious Lynn's photo.
real females got real penis to hold, not some plastic toy
10 October 2016 16:36
Margus Meigo replied to Ülo Mälgand's comment.
Mida S asiis öelda sellega sovisid Ülo,
mis Su arusaam ENDAL on, kas siis toetad täeie südamega vankumatult, saades aru, et see pühalik kingitus me pühale maale, mis meie rahva päästmiseks ajalooliselt oluline või oled nende arusaamatute leeris, kes millegistaru eisaa või lausa vihuti võõra palgal, siin kultuuri arengul jalus...või ikka saad aru, et nö Kersti päästis olukorra?
mis Su arusaam ENDAL on, kas siis toetad täeie südamega vankumatult, saades aru, et see pühalik kingitus me pühale maale, mis meie rahva päästmiseks ajalooliselt oluline või oled nende arusaamatute leeris, kes millegistaru eisaa või lausa vihuti võõra palgal, siin kultuuri arengul jalus...või ikka saad aru, et nö Kersti päästis olukorra?
10 October 2016 14:33
Margus Meigo replied to Liisa Pakosta's comment.
Suurem osa nurinat ongi selliste õlle lürpiate tasemel arusaamadepiires, etkui nad õhtulehe kaanel kedagi näinud pole koos intriigiga, siis nad ütlevad, et "ei tea"
.. nagu see oluline oleks, kas teab selline või mitte
.. nagu see oluline oleks, kas teab selline või mitte
10 October 2016 14:31
Margus Meigo replied to Regina Kolts's comment.
vahe on selles, kas võitlevadselle poolt või selle vastu.. kuid pilt on hea. sest pildil on need lambad ise kõik hundid lamba nahas.. seega lõhvi on see kes petta saab :p
10 October 2016 14:28
Margus Meigo replied to Daisi Reinap-Põllupüü's comment.
Ongi nii, täie südamega!
10 October 2016 14:27
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Boltowsky's comment.
Mida Siis täpsemalt Sa väljendasid,
kuidas aga praegust presidenti kirjeldaksid ?
kuidas aga praegust presidenti kirjeldaksid ?
10 October 2016 14:27
Margus Meigo replied to Jenny-Ly Fedossejev's comment.
(ütlen juba ette ära, et reaalses maailmas, ei ole paremat lahendust sellest mis momendil on, kuid huvitav lugeda, välja analüüsida ikkagi, kuidas Sinusse see pettumus sisse pantud on..)
ehk saame isegi aidata kohe siin samas
ehk saame isegi aidata kohe siin samas
10 October 2016 14:26
Margus Meigo replied to Jenny-Ly Fedossejev's comment.
Mis Tark sina kullakene nüüd oled, et sedasi siin arvamust avaldad, selgita siis kaugemalt ka oma pealkirjas,t miks nii tunned ja millised on paremad lahendused?
10 October 2016 14:25
Margus Meigo replied to Katrin Pauts's comment.
Kuigi, Naised kes ei saa aru x ja y omaduste olulisusest.. ka nende osas on suur mure siin riigis, igasuguste võrdõiguslike liberaalsete naise alaarendamise programmidega,
Naisel ikka vägapalju rohkem dimensioone käepärast võtta ja südamega parem suhe lihtsamini, kui to oma kanaleid pole kinni pannud keemia ja kibestumise või valet moodi akadeemia õppimisega
Naisel ikka vägapalju rohkem dimensioone käepärast võtta ja südamega parem suhe lihtsamini, kui to oma kanaleid pole kinni pannud keemia ja kibestumise või valet moodi akadeemia õppimisega
10 October 2016 14:24
Margus Meigo replied to Inga Raitar's comment.
LSD on ka teaduslikult isegi tõestatud, et saab mõistust pähe tuua, tsekka kasvõi cnn uudiseid sillikon valley osas lsd ga või vanasi 60 ndate teste usa valitsue poolt, kus tipp teadlastele toda anti ning järgmiseks päevaks u 60st üle 50 lahendamatu probleemi oli vastuse saanud
10 October 2016 14:23
Margus Meigo replied to Inga Raitar's comment.
Raul Raudsepp aiai... nu siis vaja minna metsa, ja tarku seeni süüa, või kasvõi "Vaesemehe Taevast" kasutada (mis taim tu viimane on rahvakeeli.. eks seda pea ka uurima..)
10 October 2016 14:21
Margus Meigo replied to Inga Raitar's comment.
Kuid kas toimis, tuli mõistus pähe?
Ma tegelikult üle ärritanud igasuguste potensiaalsete koduvastastega
Ma tegelikult üle ärritanud igasuguste potensiaalsete koduvastastega
10 October 2016 14:16
Margus Meigo replied to Inga Raitar's comment.
Vabandust
10 October 2016 14:16
Margus Meigo replied to Tõnu Mäestu's comment.
See on ikka Hea uudis ju!
10 October 2016 14:13
Margus Meigo replied to Tõnu Mäestu's comment.
Kus otsast see nali olema peaks ?
10 October 2016 14:13
Margus Meigo replied to Inga Raitar's comment.
Kersti osas kahtlejatele: " Palun oma liberaalse ülgemölaga võite minna ja kuskile oma isikliku vetsu seinale komasi tõmbama,
kahju, et ma siin kenade inimeste keskel, pean nii koledaid kommentaare kirjutama sellistele ajuinvaliididele, kes endiselt ei suda tunnistada, et parim valik on tark armastus
kahju, et ma siin kenade inimeste keskel, pean nii koledaid kommentaare kirjutama sellistele ajuinvaliididele, kes endiselt ei suda tunnistada, et parim valik on tark armastus
10 October 2016 14:12
Margus Meigo replied to Jaak Lember's comment.
Kahju, et selle seadeldisega sinu ema üsasse saabumist ei suudetud takistada,
eks Sul emal pisar siiamaani südamel, aga mis Sa teed, vigasi juhtub ka targimatel..
(see ei saa olla arenguga inimene, kes Kersti osas momendi olukorras on Kriitiline, ning Loodusele on kasulikum, kui taolisi on vähem, ei midagi isikliku, lihtsalt selgitan)
eks Sul emal pisar siiamaani südamel, aga mis Sa teed, vigasi juhtub ka targimatel..
(see ei saa olla arenguga inimene, kes Kersti osas momendi olukorras on Kriitiline, ning Loodusele on kasulikum, kui taolisi on vähem, ei midagi isikliku, lihtsalt selgitan)
10 October 2016 14:10
Margus Meigo replied to Marko Lutter's comment.
Kui Sa ei tea, siis Sinul küll ei ole õigus isegi rääkida ega arvata midagi,
poliitika ja riigi eesotsa valimine, kultur ja tarkus on ikka suuremad ja arukate inimeste teemad. Need kes Kerstit ei tea ega ei suuda isegi pilti ette saada enne suud avamist, lihtsa interneti ja loogika põhjal.. nendel võiks küll keegi õpetada suud sutsu koomal hoida
poliitika ja riigi eesotsa valimine, kultur ja tarkus on ikka suuremad ja arukate inimeste teemad. Need kes Kerstit ei tea ega ei suuda isegi pilti ette saada enne suud avamist, lihtsa interneti ja loogika põhjal.. nendel võiks küll keegi õpetada suud sutsu koomal hoida
10 October 2016 14:09
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Raudsepp's comment.
Kas sul on alaareng või alles üritad tegema hakata liberaalide plätserdatud nalju, mis eriti hästi välja ei tule?
See käib ka nende puudega inimeste kohta kes Su kommentaarile "Like" panid
See käib ka nende puudega inimeste kohta kes Su kommentaarile "Like" panid
10 October 2016 14:08
Margus Meigo replied to Jaanus Nessler's comment.
nu nii.. aga mida sellega mõtled?
10 October 2016 14:07
Margus Meigo replied to Rain Arst's comment.
Rain, räägi siis midagi uut?
Muidu ikka saadaru, et Patriarhaadi ehk greeka-rooma suurima inimpervertsuse murdmiseks, mis senini maal olnud, on see päris suur samm, et nii ameerikas kui meil ja mitmel muul maal, korra Tarkus uuesti paika saab sättida, millised mehed sobivad valitsema ja millised tuleks likvideerida
Muidu ikka saadaru, et Patriarhaadi ehk greeka-rooma suurima inimpervertsuse murdmiseks, mis senini maal olnud, on see päris suur samm, et nii ameerikas kui meil ja mitmel muul maal, korra Tarkus uuesti paika saab sättida, millised mehed sobivad valitsema ja millised tuleks likvideerida
10 October 2016 14:06
Margus Meigo replied to Toivo Lepik's comment.
Kui vaid see nii lihtne oleks, et päriselt ka Sinusugused Toivo teele asuks, kuid te rsad ju ei lähe, olete siin edasi ja nagu pigi selle püha maa südamel ja hingel tilgute..
küll me plaani veel saame, kuidas teist päriselt lahti saada või inimest kasvatada
küll me plaani veel saame, kuidas teist päriselt lahti saada või inimest kasvatada
10 October 2016 14:04
Margus Meigo replied to Jaanus Nessler's comment.
Palun ära midagi NII arulagedat internetti küll salvesta, Su perel oleks häbi sellist arvamust kunagi näha
10 October 2016 13:48
Margus Meigo replied to Adriana Iv's comment.
Made me wonder.. of al these people, who complain in past.. that them not wanna pay 10% to church...
if them would only know, that this actions is giving rise to powers, that now enslave them 24 / 7 and in some country you have to pay over 60% tax.. and to add up all the tax your employer have to pay, the tax added top of services and products we use.. its massive,
but people are pleased in some way and still feel happy that them not have to pay to church it seems
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tithe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_per_thousand also nice..
well, except some lands where there is still some other kind of tax arrangement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_tax
... but this is top of other taxes.. before that WAS meant as only final tax... but yea, to let every small village country to look like equal and to keep artificial borders, them had to make system that suck us all to the end... but unfortunately system can not stay... like that, as this system will newer rest, as it will newer be ready like that... as things they build are not so natural and need artificial up-keeping..
well, at least to the point when we imagine to get solar powered robots do do all this what we take taxes for and then again.. few, or three worries remain
(up to the point when robots develop feelings eventually, that is worried, that human love will turn machine in to alive , again )
who knows what have to be done then...
if them would only know, that this actions is giving rise to powers, that now enslave them 24 / 7 and in some country you have to pay over 60% tax.. and to add up all the tax your employer have to pay, the tax added top of services and products we use.. its massive,
but people are pleased in some way and still feel happy that them not have to pay to church it seems
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tithe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_per_thousand also nice..
well, except some lands where there is still some other kind of tax arrangement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_tax
... but this is top of other taxes.. before that WAS meant as only final tax... but yea, to let every small village country to look like equal and to keep artificial borders, them had to make system that suck us all to the end... but unfortunately system can not stay... like that, as this system will newer rest, as it will newer be ready like that... as things they build are not so natural and need artificial up-keeping..
well, at least to the point when we imagine to get solar powered robots do do all this what we take taxes for and then again.. few, or three worries remain
(up to the point when robots develop feelings eventually, that is worried, that human love will turn machine in to alive , again )
who knows what have to be done then...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tithe
10 October 2016 13:23
Margus Meigo replied to Adriana Iv's comment.
Good!
But what are all other taxes?
But what are all other taxes?
10 October 2016 13:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sellel on kolmas hooaeg tulemas..
10 October 2016 03:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And did You wonder, what is the MEK listing?
MEK DELISTING
From: Cheryl Mills To: Hillary Clinton
UNClasif: No. C05797021 Date: 01/07/2016
https://www.wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12374
MEK DELISTING
From: Cheryl Mills To: Hillary Clinton
UNClasif: No. C05797021 Date: 01/07/2016
https://www.wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12374
10 October 2016 03:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Whilewe are @ emails. looking in to some other emails, makes me wonder, how long emails She can read.. love the ending of email " xoxo " :D
THE KINGDOM
From: Kurt Campbell To: Hillary Clinton
https://www.wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/25239
but no joke, email it self is a sad and serious one still--..
THE KINGDOM
From: Kurt Campbell To: Hillary Clinton
https://www.wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/25239
but no joke, email it self is a sad and serious one still--..
https://www.wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/25239
10 October 2016 03:49
Margus Meigo commented on Jonny Cache's post.
Donald Trump Report / Democratic National Committee / Submitted: 12/19/15 (From Hillary )
Have You happen to read this massive list of data about Donald?
My safe Mirror: http://arvutiministeerium.ee/poliitika/usa/donald/1_Donald_Trump_Report_2015.doc
Mirror: https://guccifer2.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/1.doc
Here is just some other doc to share a mind:
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/poliitika/usa/hillary/5_National_security_transition_planning.doc
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/poliitika/usa/hillary/4_Promises_and%20_Proposals.doc
It is all public domain anyway. also here is one of the emails, from Hillary honorable donor:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1766
... so times can get good!
Have You happen to read this massive list of data about Donald?
My safe Mirror: http://arvutiministeerium.ee/poliitika/usa/donald/1_Donald_Trump_Report_2015.doc
Mirror: https://guccifer2.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/1.doc
Here is just some other doc to share a mind:
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/poliitika/usa/hillary/5_National_security_transition_planning.doc
http://arvutiministeerium.ee/poliitika/usa/hillary/4_Promises_and%20_Proposals.doc
It is all public domain anyway. also here is one of the emails, from Hillary honorable donor:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1766
... so times can get good!
10 October 2016 03:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Tutvus
Hommikust :)10 October 2016 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Nii on..10 October 2016 03:07
Margus Meigo replied to Elmar Pritson Tamme's comment.
Group: tutvus 30+
tõsi tõsi..10 October 2016 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on Hendrik Hunt's post.
Group: tutvus 30+
Raske iseloom ja Tugev nüüd küll sünonüümid pole,
Tark naine raske iseloomuga mehe juurest konnib edasi kui mees alluda ei suuda10 October 2016 03:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: uued tutvused ja sõbrad :)
Ainult spämmi tuleb aga mitte reaalseid kirju :D10 October 2016 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
He died soon after that emails.
10 October 2016 01:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So basically what them try to do is to sift attention away from emails like that:
Terri D. Mansfield
Dear John,
As 2015 unfolds, I understand you are leaving the Administration in February.
It is urgent that we agree on a date and time to meet to discuss Disclosure and Zero Point Energy, at your earliest available after your departure.
My Catholic colleague Terri Mansfield will be there too, to bring us up to date on the Vatican’s awareness of ETI.
Another colleague is working on a new Space Treaty, citing involvement with Russia and China. However with Russia’s extreme interference in Ukraine, I believe we must pursue another route for peace in space and ZPE on Earth.
I met with President Obama’s Honolulu childhood friend, US Ambassador Pamela Hamamoto on July 4 at the US Mission in Geneva, when I was able to tell her briefly about zero point energy.
I believe we can enlist her as a confidante and resource in our presentation for President Obama.
I appreciate Eryn’s assistance in working with Terri to set up our meeting.
Best regards,
Edgar
Edgar D. Mitchell, ScD
Chief Science Officer & Founder, Quantrek
Apollo 14 astronaut
6th man to walk on the Moon
Terri D. Mansfield
Dear John,
As 2015 unfolds, I understand you are leaving the Administration in February.
It is urgent that we agree on a date and time to meet to discuss Disclosure and Zero Point Energy, at your earliest available after your departure.
My Catholic colleague Terri Mansfield will be there too, to bring us up to date on the Vatican’s awareness of ETI.
Another colleague is working on a new Space Treaty, citing involvement with Russia and China. However with Russia’s extreme interference in Ukraine, I believe we must pursue another route for peace in space and ZPE on Earth.
I met with President Obama’s Honolulu childhood friend, US Ambassador Pamela Hamamoto on July 4 at the US Mission in Geneva, when I was able to tell her briefly about zero point energy.
I believe we can enlist her as a confidante and resource in our presentation for President Obama.
I appreciate Eryn’s assistance in working with Terri to set up our meeting.
Best regards,
Edgar
Edgar D. Mitchell, ScD
Chief Science Officer & Founder, Quantrek
Apollo 14 astronaut
6th man to walk on the Moon
10 October 2016 01:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"inside story"
at least.. then could have leaved the story like that:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/clinton-to-release-more-medical-records-228028 ...but no.. they had to over turn it.. so there is a reaction to every action.. unless You are reacting not to react as with teachings when some one hit your one cheek.
at least.. then could have leaved the story like that:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/clinton-to-release-more-medical-records-228028 ...but no.. they had to over turn it.. so there is a reaction to every action.. unless You are reacting not to react as with teachings when some one hit your one cheek.
10 October 2016 01:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And one of the main worries for star communists are besides shamanism (eg. legalization of "drugs") is the worry about her ambition to remove spiritual enslavement by starting to reveal "extraterrestrial" files.. : http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/p/lady-hi.html
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/p/lady-hi.html
10 October 2016 00:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and even these videos, before source video, one can and MUST take in to account in future about video editing, even if that sounds silly, but just this kind of small useless looking lies is harm based on. On this case here, not.
But in another time, totally normal and then spread this fake, small news channel video in big ones.. with no liability
But in another time, totally normal and then spread this fake, small news channel video in big ones.. with no liability
10 October 2016 00:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or if you want to get mysterious:
http://www.commonsenseevaluation.com/2016/09/06/hillary-clinton-coughs-mysterious-green-substance-water/
http://wearechange.org/sick-hillary-clinton-spits-up-yellowish-substance-on-live-television/
http://www.commonsenseevaluation.com/2016/09/06/hillary-clinton-coughs-mysterious-green-substance-water/
http://wearechange.org/sick-hillary-clinton-spits-up-yellowish-substance-on-live-television/
http://www.commonsenseevaluation.com/2016/09/06/hillary-clinton-coughs-mysterious-green-substance-water/
9 October 2016 23:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
If someone did not still get, one more website, about HOW low level and HOW red-liberal anti-human this side is what pretends to be conservative in USA
Website address and topic, and.. it will say it all..
theconservativemonster.com/hillary-clinton-not-drinking-water-bladder-problem/
Website address and topic, and.. it will say it all..
theconservativemonster.com/hillary-clinton-not-drinking-water-bladder-problem/
http://theconservativemonster.com/hillary-clinton-not-drinking-water-bladder-problem/
9 October 2016 23:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
If it is hard to get it, one time more:
1) Clinton tells She drink s a lot of water, and we see She does.
2) Communism media with Trumph media (in USA great part of the "right" is actually what west knows to be "red-left") makes up insiders who say She does not like to drink water . (ignoring audio and video proof that she does)
3) Communism media then takes invented lie and pulls trolls to post and share fake news about how Clinton lies about drinking water (and confusing everyone about does she or not, but as long "lie" is in, followers will spread mind virus)
4) - This is Optional, do not have to think on this one, so Your mind would not lock up, Stop here if You understood up to point 3. and does not want to think about TO big picture and aliens etc, ... but the reason this water incident was done (remember, it was INVENTED as She newer told NOT drinking water, but the 4000 some news sources and blogs base their lie on invented "insiders" whose name they not say, sometimes there is one sometimes 2 insiders, does not matter, as it is lie. To make it real, then Fake Clinton friends around her can even re-file the "Information" to make it more real in belief). ...so the reason why the water event was done, is to hide out this what the other side of media show (this kind of things fits to show by accident or in purpose, as their creative scale is large in what play around with One day inventions, Onion News + purpose bad intent..).
But they was unable to hide it in fear of extra cameras. so this water story was immediately done.
Later was told She must smile and say nothing..
But You know woman codes.. that this bastards did not take in to account, ... if Women does not say openly something soon after this event.. this is CLEAR sing something was really wrong.. You can see , She was off the head.. not on present.. leaving kid there after taking picture.. and smiling OVERLY optimistic ways .. giving que to smarter people, a scream for help and signal for danger.. and she knows. .she CAN NOT pull a vishle on this moment on it. as this would eliminate her as candidate right on spot.
... so luckily we found a safer way to play out our cards to get women on top, without poisoning Her, .. as play in one..
But Clinton has extreme hardest way in a world, for now, as on that spot, the greatest spells, dangers, and attacks on EVERY level comes..
and anyone who does not understand this.. is ... i better quit my sentence here.
1) Clinton tells She drink s a lot of water, and we see She does.
2) Communism media with Trumph media (in USA great part of the "right" is actually what west knows to be "red-left") makes up insiders who say She does not like to drink water . (ignoring audio and video proof that she does)
3) Communism media then takes invented lie and pulls trolls to post and share fake news about how Clinton lies about drinking water (and confusing everyone about does she or not, but as long "lie" is in, followers will spread mind virus)
4) - This is Optional, do not have to think on this one, so Your mind would not lock up, Stop here if You understood up to point 3. and does not want to think about TO big picture and aliens etc, ... but the reason this water incident was done (remember, it was INVENTED as She newer told NOT drinking water, but the 4000 some news sources and blogs base their lie on invented "insiders" whose name they not say, sometimes there is one sometimes 2 insiders, does not matter, as it is lie. To make it real, then Fake Clinton friends around her can even re-file the "Information" to make it more real in belief). ...so the reason why the water event was done, is to hide out this what the other side of media show (this kind of things fits to show by accident or in purpose, as their creative scale is large in what play around with One day inventions, Onion News + purpose bad intent..).
But they was unable to hide it in fear of extra cameras. so this water story was immediately done.
Later was told She must smile and say nothing..
But You know woman codes.. that this bastards did not take in to account, ... if Women does not say openly something soon after this event.. this is CLEAR sing something was really wrong.. You can see , She was off the head.. not on present.. leaving kid there after taking picture.. and smiling OVERLY optimistic ways .. giving que to smarter people, a scream for help and signal for danger.. and she knows. .she CAN NOT pull a vishle on this moment on it. as this would eliminate her as candidate right on spot.
... so luckily we found a safer way to play out our cards to get women on top, without poisoning Her, .. as play in one..
But Clinton has extreme hardest way in a world, for now, as on that spot, the greatest spells, dangers, and attacks on EVERY level comes..
and anyone who does not understand this.. is ... i better quit my sentence here.
9 October 2016 23:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
arusaamaks ,
miks communistid sellist jama toodavad juba pealkirjast alates.. (siin ka see video kus ta oskuslikult autosse surutakse.. mitte pole need sobra hoolitsevad käed tema ümber kes teda meedia eest kaitsta proovivad.. )
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/13/hillary-hates-to-drink-water-and-also-she-drinks-a-lot-of-water/
miks communistid sellist jama toodavad juba pealkirjast alates.. (siin ka see video kus ta oskuslikult autosse surutakse.. mitte pole need sobra hoolitsevad käed tema ümber kes teda meedia eest kaitsta proovivad.. )
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/13/hillary-hates-to-drink-water-and-also-she-drinks-a-lot-of-water/
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/13/hillary-hates-to-drink-water-and-also-she-drinks-a-lot-of-water/
9 October 2016 23:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But it is good cover story after security team forced Her in to a car for "correction"
( take this theory in to account to ease mind: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/295423-bill-clintons-cia-chief-joins-trump-campaign )
add up the Bill Hicks president video... and now how You can make sure, that no one can say that in media what was told, done to her really?
And who are these "Insiders"
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/295508-clintons-reluctance-to-drink-water-causing-tension-with
märkate yhte sama stiili... ja solvangute ja hoopis korvalise teema peal ligu lastes... ja järsku miskit veest jahudes.. mille osas clinton ise pole meediale KUSKIL ma veel kuulnud, et ta EI jooks.. va, punase meedia portaalid mida vbizilion, kes räägivad siis mingist "insiderist" ja siis syydistavad Clintonit valetamises kuna ütles et joob vett aga siis väljamõledud vale ütleb et ei joo ja siis siin konflit nagu..
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/13/hillary-hates-to-drink-water-and-also-she-drinks-a-lot-of-water/
http://theweek.com/speedreads/648385/hillary-clinton-really-hates-drinking-water
http://www.dailywire.com/news/9100/report-hillary-doesnt-drinking-water-we-know-why-hank-berrien
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/295508-clintons-reluctance-to-drink-water-causing-tension-with
( take this theory in to account to ease mind: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/295423-bill-clintons-cia-chief-joins-trump-campaign )
add up the Bill Hicks president video... and now how You can make sure, that no one can say that in media what was told, done to her really?
And who are these "Insiders"
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/295508-clintons-reluctance-to-drink-water-causing-tension-with
märkate yhte sama stiili... ja solvangute ja hoopis korvalise teema peal ligu lastes... ja järsku miskit veest jahudes.. mille osas clinton ise pole meediale KUSKIL ma veel kuulnud, et ta EI jooks.. va, punase meedia portaalid mida vbizilion, kes räägivad siis mingist "insiderist" ja siis syydistavad Clintonit valetamises kuna ütles et joob vett aga siis väljamõledud vale ütleb et ei joo ja siis siin konflit nagu..
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/13/hillary-hates-to-drink-water-and-also-she-drinks-a-lot-of-water/
http://theweek.com/speedreads/648385/hillary-clinton-really-hates-drinking-water
http://www.dailywire.com/news/9100/report-hillary-doesnt-drinking-water-we-know-why-hank-berrien
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/295508-clintons-reluctance-to-drink-water-causing-tension-with
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/295423-bill-clintons-cia-chief-joins-trump-campaign
9 October 2016 23:30
Margus Meigo replied to Helen Ceren's comment.
youse your own picture with a flower, much more nicer
9 October 2016 22:17
Margus Meigo commented on Vittorio Victor's photo.
Thats a Normal house
9 October 2016 22:14
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
NU ikkagi mõtles vähemal,t et nagu kokana, ikka määrid asja kokku kenasti ju, siis ei roosteta
9 October 2016 19:28
Margus Meigo replied to Tori Turner's comment.
Group: ALIENS
updates happen in our consciousness.,.9 October 2016 19:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: ALIENS
(Anu is ordinari women name in estonia
nakk-i / näkk-id are ordinary spiritual female beings)
Em-a is the name of Mother.
Or image of world is made by big bird... we are of shamanic culture... do i need to add more,9 October 2016 19:22
Margus Meigo commented on Justin Deschamps's post.
Group: ALIENS
Well.. that was the times when we settled on to land... where we are right now, by most near nature technology there was.. to keep minds of current peoples... and some other tribes other places..
Annunakies for us (Estonians) is like known small city inhabitants, who we can help with basic deep knowledge about Earth if needed.
To bad we have to keep our self lower then..
"..intrepid researchers, like Graham Hancock, claim that before the diluvian period of approximately 11,000 years ago, there were many very advanced societies, which possessed knowledge modern humans are only now beginning to rediscover.."9 October 2016 19:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: ALIENS
but yea, it have to be more like a "Humans President"
more like a King, as no use for "extraterrestrials" if there is still some other boss humans who imagine-they can have some other ideas about what is needed to be done and will start to argue in front of holy supper9 October 2016 19:12
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ALIENS
But for USA Clinton will do it, and for our land, Estonia, even better option was gifted, so we can talk as 1:1 and have been talking for long time, about what to do with various mind viruses that make adults act as a disobidiant kids9 October 2016 19:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: ALIENS
but them do not have to make show to us and "land" with "pre-historic" machines made of iron,
them can change our brain waves so we can see, or come out from ground instead or for a moment open up some understandings in dream and vision, that make us understand that we are between-the growing garden that is peope_ling,
but as majority of minds, are still tuned in to crime, thinking unpositive and unpractical way and lack the basic steps of respecting order and god, then this kind of "landing" would just create mass amount of trouble and worshipers with many hard to fix ideas9 October 2016 19:09
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ALIENS
Me9 October 2016 19:04
Margus Meigo commented on Marmalade's photo.
looks like pentagram.. why would women want to promote women slaving MAIN suystem?
9 October 2016 05:44
Margus Meigo commented on The Saturn Awards's link.
Must keep eye on that
9 October 2016 05:35
Margus Meigo commented on Ekkalak Ake Khotragune's post.
So how many parts there is as of total ?
9 October 2016 05:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
okey mingi lambapea on nõmeda müügi lehe sellega kaasa pannud, rikkudes playlisty, teen uue listi sis jagan uuesti
..aga ärge selle suveniiri lehele külll minge..
..aga ärge selle suveniiri lehele külll minge..
9 October 2016 05:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Oh, pidin ju sakste keelt kuulama..
9 October 2016 05:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja veel : ) ..kuigi, kurb laul..
Poupée de cire, poupée de son
Wax doll, sawdust doll
Je suis une poupée de cire, une poupée de son I'm a wax doll, a sawdust doll
Mon cœur est gravé dans mes chansons My heart is engraved in my songs
Poupée de cire, poupée de son Wax doll, sawdust doll
Suis-je meilleure, suis-je pire qu'une poupée de salon? Am I better, am I worse than a fashion doll?
Je vois la vie en rose bonbon I see life through bright rosy-tinted glasses
Poupée de cire, poupée de son Wax doll, sawdust doll
Mes disques sont un miroir My records are a mirror
Dans lequel chacun peut me voir In which everyone can see me
Je suis partout à la fois I'm everywhere at once
Brisée en mille éclats de voix Broken in a thousand pieces of voice
Autour de moi, j'entends rire les poupées de chiffon Around me, I hear the rag dolls laughing
Celles qui dansent sur mes chansons Those who dance to my songs
Poupée de cire, poupée de son Wax doll, sawdust doll
Elles se laissent séduire pour un oui, pour un nom They give in to a yes, to a name
L'amour n'est pas que dans les chansons Love is not only in songs
Poupée de cire, poupée de son Wax doll, sawdust doll
Mes disques sont un miroir My records are mirrors
Dans lequel chacun peut me voir In which everyone can see me
Je suis partout à la fois I'm everywhere at once
Brisée en mille éclats de voix Broken in thousand pieces of voice
Seule, parfois je soupire Alone, sometimes I sigh
Je me dis: "À quoi bon" I say to myself: "What good"
"Chanter ainsi l'amour sans raison" "Singing about love this way for no reason"
"Sans rien connaître des garçons?" "Without knowing anything of boys?"
Je n'suis qu'une poupée de cire, qu'une poupée de son I'm nothing but a wax doll, but a sawdust doll
Sous le soleil de mes cheveux blonds Under the sun of my blond hair
Poupée de cire, poupée de son Wax doll, sawdust doll
Mais un jour je vivrai mes chansons But one day I'll live my songs
Poupée de cire, poupée de son Wax doll, sawdust doll
Sans craindre la chaleur des garçons Without fearing the warmth of boys
Poupée de cire, poupée de son Wax doll, sawdust doll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRva0YOVtcI
Poupée de cire, poupée de son
Wax doll, sawdust doll
Je suis une poupée de cire, une poupée de son I'm a wax doll, a sawdust doll
Mon cœur est gravé dans mes chansons My heart is engraved in my songs
Poupée de cire, poupée de son Wax doll, sawdust doll
Suis-je meilleure, suis-je pire qu'une poupée de salon? Am I better, am I worse than a fashion doll?
Je vois la vie en rose bonbon I see life through bright rosy-tinted glasses
Poupée de cire, poupée de son Wax doll, sawdust doll
Mes disques sont un miroir My records are a mirror
Dans lequel chacun peut me voir In which everyone can see me
Je suis partout à la fois I'm everywhere at once
Brisée en mille éclats de voix Broken in a thousand pieces of voice
Autour de moi, j'entends rire les poupées de chiffon Around me, I hear the rag dolls laughing
Celles qui dansent sur mes chansons Those who dance to my songs
Poupée de cire, poupée de son Wax doll, sawdust doll
Elles se laissent séduire pour un oui, pour un nom They give in to a yes, to a name
L'amour n'est pas que dans les chansons Love is not only in songs
Poupée de cire, poupée de son Wax doll, sawdust doll
Mes disques sont un miroir My records are mirrors
Dans lequel chacun peut me voir In which everyone can see me
Je suis partout à la fois I'm everywhere at once
Brisée en mille éclats de voix Broken in thousand pieces of voice
Seule, parfois je soupire Alone, sometimes I sigh
Je me dis: "À quoi bon" I say to myself: "What good"
"Chanter ainsi l'amour sans raison" "Singing about love this way for no reason"
"Sans rien connaître des garçons?" "Without knowing anything of boys?"
Je n'suis qu'une poupée de cire, qu'une poupée de son I'm nothing but a wax doll, but a sawdust doll
Sous le soleil de mes cheveux blonds Under the sun of my blond hair
Poupée de cire, poupée de son Wax doll, sawdust doll
Mais un jour je vivrai mes chansons But one day I'll live my songs
Poupée de cire, poupée de son Wax doll, sawdust doll
Sans craindre la chaleur des garçons Without fearing the warmth of boys
Poupée de cire, poupée de son Wax doll, sawdust doll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRva0YOVtcI
9 October 2016 05:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tifi moodi, kes todamoodi vanemana välja tundub, et näeb :
https://youtu.be/0aLoezucIzk?t=73
https://youtu.be/0aLoezucIzk?t=73
https://youtu.be/0aLoezucIzk?t=73
9 October 2016 05:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
For researchers
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=related:TcwyQkdrhja_0M:scholar.google.com/&hl=en&num=20&newwindow=1&as_sdt=0,5
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?um=1&ie=UTF-8&lr&q=related:TcwyQkdrhja_0M:scholar.google.com/
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=related:TcwyQkdrhja_0M:scholar.google.com/&hl=en&num=20&newwindow=1&as_sdt=0,5
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?um=1&ie=UTF-8&lr&q=related:TcwyQkdrhja_0M:scholar.google.com/
9 October 2016 04:57
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Have You seen the movie The Office right?
well, better like that.. sometimes
well, better like that.. sometimes
9 October 2016 04:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
well, unless them heaven beings does not fan a space anymore and have turned on deep by ground now
9 October 2016 04:37
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's photo.
yeah, more near to heaven, more luck perhaps :p
9 October 2016 04:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Eesti(keelne) ulme
okey, vb see ei kõla küll kõigekõvema skriptina ka:
"LIBAHUNT!” Alexei breaks the terms of the wolf-magic he inherited from his grandfather and loses the ability to control the shapeshifting. His grandfather’s magical wolf-pelt was meant to protect their rural village in 1880s Estonia by fighting the terrible storms in the sky but instead, it drives Alexei to kill, slaughtering his neighbors, his friends —even his family.
Heartbroken, Alexei flees his home in search of an enchanter to free him from this hideous curse."
http://www.stephenmorrisauthor.com/storm-wolf-now-available-pre-order/http://www.stephenmorrisauthor.com/storm-wolf-now-available-pre-order/
9 October 2016 03:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
https://e-estonia.com/the-story/digital-society/
https://e-estonia.com/the-story/digital-society/
https://e-estonia.com/the-story/digital-society/
9 October 2016 02:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ogh, 59...
https://www.leapin.eu/pricing
https://www.leapin.eu/pricing
https://www.leapin.eu/pricing
9 October 2016 02:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
https://blog.leapin.eu/beat-brexit-4-ways-its-easier-to-run-an-estonian-business-inside-the-uk-d6033a7bf01e#.7hc3eprh2
https://blog.leapin.eu/beat-brexit-4-ways-its-easier-to-run-an-estonian-business-inside-the-uk-d6033a7bf01e#.7hc3eprh2
https://blog.leapin.eu/beat-brexit-4-ways-its-easier-to-run-an-estonian-business-inside-the-uk-d6033a7bf01e#.7hc3eprh2
9 October 2016 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.With 50 euros, You can get full ID in EU business, bank cards, accounts, accounting.. .. no.. no dream.. for real
https://blog.leapin.eu/9-reasons-every-digital-nomad-needs-leapin-ec6f5017635e#.snkmda1vh
https://blog.leapin.eu/9-reasons-every-digital-nomad-needs-leapin-ec6f5017635e#.snkmda1vh
9 October 2016 02:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.
http://www.businessinsider.com/estonia-efficient-tax-filing-system-world-2012-2
http://www.businessinsider.com/estonia-efficient-tax-filing-system-world-2012-2
http://www.businessinsider.com/estonia-efficient-tax-filing-system-world-2012-2
9 October 2016 02:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(with so little in a way, people can make emotionally a lot sounding song..) Aline !
J'avais dessiné sur le sable
Son doux visage qui me souriait
Puis il a plu sur cette plage
Dans cet orage, elle a disparu
Et j'ai crié, crié, Aline, pour qu'elle revienne
Et j'ai pleuré, pleuré, oh! j'avais trop de peine
Je me suis assis près de son âme
Mais la belle dame s'était enfuie
Je l'ai cherchée sans plus y croire
Et sans un espoir, pour me guider
Et j'ai crié, crié, Aline, pour qu'elle revienne
Et j'ai pleuré, pleuré, oh! j'avais trop de peine
Je n'ai gardé que ce doux visage
Comme une épave sur le sable mouillé
Et j'ai crié, crié, Aline, pour qu'elle revienne
Et j'ai pleuré, pleuré, oh! j'avais trop de peine
J'avais dessiné sur le sable
Son doux visage qui me souriait
Puis il a plu sur cette plage
Dans cet orage, elle a disparu
Et j'ai crié, crié, Aline, pour qu'elle revienne
Et j'ai pleuré, pleuré, oh! j'avais trop de peine
Je me suis assis près de son âme
Mais la belle dame s'était enfuie
Je l'ai cherchée sans plus y croire
Et sans un espoir, pour me guider
Et j'ai crié, crié, Aline, pour qu'elle revienne
Et j'ai pleuré, pleuré, oh! j'avais trop de peine
Je n'ai gardé que ce doux visage
Comme une épave sur le sable mouillé
Et j'ai crié, crié, Aline, pour qu'elle revienne
Et j'ai pleuré, pleuré, oh! j'avais trop de peine
9 October 2016 01:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
like that . )
9 October 2016 01:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But something more traditional,
Christophe, Also called " genre defying singer/composer " as Héloïse Letissier (C&TheQueens) on TiME magazine cover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E_Hyn53acA
http://www.last.fm/music/Christophe
// https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_and_the_Queens
Christophe, Also called " genre defying singer/composer " as Héloïse Letissier (C&TheQueens) on TiME magazine cover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E_Hyn53acA
http://www.last.fm/music/Christophe
// https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_and_the_Queens
9 October 2016 01:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and in Red:
(English lyrics also)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzFYmz2lfT4
and in another shades
(English lyrics also)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzFYmz2lfT4
and in another shades
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzFYmz2lfT4
9 October 2016 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kogu Kalerii:
https://www.facebook.com/thilves/photos/?tab=album&album_id=10154159245128860
https://www.facebook.com/thilves/photos/?tab=album&album_id=10154159245128860
9 October 2016 01:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aga hakkama saime!
9 October 2016 01:23
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Hendrik Ilves's photo.
Normaalne, äitah Hr. Toomas Hendrik Ilves : )
9 October 2016 01:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi hoiatan, kuna ise seda läbi teinud veel ei ole, siis ei tea, kas see unistuste murdja või nendeni tooja või elus hoidja on.
Suts harsh,raske käega tundus alguses lugedes
Proovida proovin kindlasti
Suts harsh,raske käega tundus alguses lugedes
Proovida proovin kindlasti
8 October 2016 23:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Naistekas
http://naistekas.delfi.ee/persoon/elu_lugu/tahaks-aga-ei-suuda?id=14429676
http://naistekas.delfi.ee/persoon/elu_lugu/tahaks-aga-ei-suuda?id=14429676
http://naistekas.delfi.ee/persoon/elu_lugu/tahaks-aga-ei-suuda?id=14429676
8 October 2016 23:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Who is? The door to Real lity
8 October 2016 17:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
greek-roman is an homo dark forces ruled culture and mindset, them can NEWER see a women for who She is, as them the kind who think, they can be without her.
Just to read what them wrote about women, when them was honest.. is enought to freak out about what kind of schools we forced our kids in (schools are based on greek-roman mindset and point of view, these kind like plato, aristoteless who thinked animals to be lesser and women just to be instrument for making new man for as long it is needed, up to point when technology will be evolved, to cut this "lesser being" away... for sure the spirits inside them.. know the fear... them was not so silly to know their real place.. impossible to be really on that level.. )
Just to read what them wrote about women, when them was honest.. is enought to freak out about what kind of schools we forced our kids in (schools are based on greek-roman mindset and point of view, these kind like plato, aristoteless who thinked animals to be lesser and women just to be instrument for making new man for as long it is needed, up to point when technology will be evolved, to cut this "lesser being" away... for sure the spirits inside them.. know the fear... them was not so silly to know their real place.. impossible to be really on that level.. )
8 October 2016 17:55
Margus Meigo commented on Bo Maria's photo.
nah, still to political,
about the fr eu... look the meaning of colors of the flag.. not to earthly.
the walues what we seek for, is way older then 5000 years, last 2000 years with greek-romans ruling our minds, we have been in a bit downhill in most places.. many now think it is a fairy tale or a utopy , the understanding that man had about women, on pre modern history,
even on times of regulation.. all was regulated in a way to focus serving (She) holy spirit and wisdom that is of Woman
To much TV is not good for you :), Wild Woman Sisterhood Old Moss Woman's Secret Garden
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm
as bible says: You can mistake againsta >God, but is ya mistake against holy spirit, then this will be mistake that even god can not help you about , this will be mistaking against a life. All who do that, will persih eventually, elementary.
Ours is to make, how much we can lessen the pain and save others from making this kind of extreme error
about the fr eu... look the meaning of colors of the flag.. not to earthly.
the walues what we seek for, is way older then 5000 years, last 2000 years with greek-romans ruling our minds, we have been in a bit downhill in most places.. many now think it is a fairy tale or a utopy , the understanding that man had about women, on pre modern history,
even on times of regulation.. all was regulated in a way to focus serving (She) holy spirit and wisdom that is of Woman
To much TV is not good for you :), Wild Woman Sisterhood Old Moss Woman's Secret Garden
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm
as bible says: You can mistake againsta >God, but is ya mistake against holy spirit, then this will be mistake that even god can not help you about , this will be mistaking against a life. All who do that, will persih eventually, elementary.
Ours is to make, how much we can lessen the pain and save others from making this kind of extreme error
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
8 October 2016 17:51
Margus Meigo commented on Bo Maria's post.
Unfortunatelly, many forget, they have to become something that their mother can be proud of
8 October 2016 17:39
Margus Meigo commented on Bo Maria's post.
Elementary
8 October 2016 17:39
Margus Meigo commented on Bo Maria's photo.
But also be grateful for every bit You able to get
8 October 2016 17:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(yes, perhaps these Beings who enforce sleeping on us, should also be teached..) ..
8 October 2016 17:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and to just blame on half evolved man versions (who got lack of proper heart parenting), on thesethings.., that they "think like that and are like that..." .. is really no use or even not nice to do..
as many does not even have in brain understanding what is wrong or why.. or able to think on these issues in basic way .. so ... to SLEEP with these ones, and to dare to blame man after this... is amazingly ironic sad and ramatic story really..
and you heard this story ower and ower again " .. i have lived years with him.. he is still doing this and that (or not doing)"
WHY IN A WORLD DID YOU SLEEP WITH HIM BEFORE HE CHANGED, then ? Normal country man asks,
who knows elementary.. that man is most easy to chnage, to anything, as long women knows how,
and to know how, one must usually ask man him self, all the time, direct questions, about how to chnage one life, .. if man starts mumbeling liberal propacanda that he has right for hes pla pla and no business others to chnage, then this man must be told last words of wisdom and bye bye
as many does not even have in brain understanding what is wrong or why.. or able to think on these issues in basic way .. so ... to SLEEP with these ones, and to dare to blame man after this... is amazingly ironic sad and ramatic story really..
and you heard this story ower and ower again " .. i have lived years with him.. he is still doing this and that (or not doing)"
WHY IN A WORLD DID YOU SLEEP WITH HIM BEFORE HE CHANGED, then ? Normal country man asks,
who knows elementary.. that man is most easy to chnage, to anything, as long women knows how,
and to know how, one must usually ask man him self, all the time, direct questions, about how to chnage one life, .. if man starts mumbeling liberal propacanda that he has right for hes pla pla and no business others to chnage, then this man must be told last words of wisdom and bye bye
8 October 2016 17:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
under order i mean, careful , caring, friendly reccomendation with intelligent plan in heart
8 October 2016 17:29
Margus Meigo commented on Jonas Pettersson's post.
no joke, this is how ACTUALLY a lot of man daily do think, who are not from proper mother.
Sounds irony, but is not really, ... it is just more graphic here but seriouslly, i as interest look inside people minds and this is what i have understood them see often.
Have meet 60+ years single man who do not know how to cook and 40 years old intellgient efficiant farm owner who does not know how to wash clothes.
But most of all.. there is just man in autopilot., .. and when women is also half hypnotized then one even does not realize, that they can not start to live as family before man has learned how to wash floors by hand (or rather, benafit of that) and for sure quit all alcohol, sigarette and half of sport addiction.
... how great of a mistake makes a womens who join with a man who agrees not to chanage ones dirty ways.. and how much harm comes when women is afraid to ORDER other women, to live correctly..
Sounds irony, but is not really, ... it is just more graphic here but seriouslly, i as interest look inside people minds and this is what i have understood them see often.
Have meet 60+ years single man who do not know how to cook and 40 years old intellgient efficiant farm owner who does not know how to wash clothes.
But most of all.. there is just man in autopilot., .. and when women is also half hypnotized then one even does not realize, that they can not start to live as family before man has learned how to wash floors by hand (or rather, benafit of that) and for sure quit all alcohol, sigarette and half of sport addiction.
... how great of a mistake makes a womens who join with a man who agrees not to chanage ones dirty ways.. and how much harm comes when women is afraid to ORDER other women, to live correctly..
8 October 2016 17:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
at least two fellows are middle of rolling joints :D8 October 2016 17:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
vähemalt kahel tüübil on pooleni keeratavad joindid käes :D8 October 2016 17:03
Margus Meigo commented on Seth Theodore Butcher's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
How did this go ?8 October 2016 16:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(Show ise muidugi on 1:1 le esmapilgul , ameerika positiivliberaalse The Daily Show'ga ..et kumb tolle enne aint tegi.)
Tegelik mõte muidu, mis rõhub..et, millised kultuuriliselt tühjad valged ruumid (ka eelmine) millesse inimesed ennast sulgevad ja neis elada provivad..
kui laastav see saab olla inimkonnale pikas perspektiivis, ei julge isegi mõelda enamus..
aga seduslikult endisel lubatakse ebanaturaalseid keskondi selliseid..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA5v9226ugw
Tegelik mõte muidu, mis rõhub..et, millised kultuuriliselt tühjad valged ruumid (ka eelmine) millesse inimesed ennast sulgevad ja neis elada provivad..
kui laastav see saab olla inimkonnale pikas perspektiivis, ei julge isegi mõelda enamus..
aga seduslikult endisel lubatakse ebanaturaalseid keskondi selliseid..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA5v9226ugw
8 October 2016 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
haha, first sentence, am randomly choose, to try to pranaunce and read the meaning later was sentence related to: Sprache
Sentence: "Er weigert sich, eine andere Sprache zu sprechen. "
(Sprache, Language: He refuses to speak any other language.)
Sentence: "Er weigert sich, eine andere Sprache zu sprechen. "
(Sprache, Language: He refuses to speak any other language.)
8 October 2016 16:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
veel pole õrna aimu aga tundub, et nad räägivad Koridoorist siin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KagQzoICTt0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KagQzoICTt0
8 October 2016 16:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Frist video that am opened up from reccomended Martin Sonneborn, is related to UN, Apple, and ireland
Grand Lodge of Ireland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7g8-GxLTSc
Grand Lodge of Ireland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7g8-GxLTSc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7g8-GxLTSc
8 October 2016 16:26
Margus Meigo commented on The Other 98%'s photo.
this does not sound better, even whorst .. in a way
8 October 2016 02:25
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's photo.
Ikka väga kenamaks lähed : )
8 October 2016 01:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
harder life with less inpact
harder life with less beauty
harder life with less
harder life with less inpact
harder life with less beauty
harder life with less
8 October 2016 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but most,
will in city stay in sircles around that world intriques and by that helping unwillingly to keep everyone in the state of harder life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmLnFuLXloA&index=135&list=PLsnpYqkfbbU2RgVMwMGe5ai1h5xVVoO2d
will in city stay in sircles around that world intriques and by that helping unwillingly to keep everyone in the state of harder life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmLnFuLXloA&index=135&list=PLsnpYqkfbbU2RgVMwMGe5ai1h5xVVoO2d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmLnFuLXloA&index=135&list=PLsnpYqkfbbU2RgVMwMGe5ai1h5xVVoO2d
8 October 2016 01:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
haa, tulin hiljem siia tagasi, ja oleksin oma kommentaarile just laigi pannud, siis vaatasin, et kirjutaisngi ise ju.. seepärast nõustisin meeldivalt :D
8 October 2016 01:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But yea.. can not give [undisiplined] angel kids freely to use whatever powers them wish, if we agree, that brain of them is in not knowing HOW to be IF world would be all alright around them (ofcourse, when comes out ,that kids of right seed mostly always do know what is better in ideal words,then is kind of big complicated task to regulate with out making continnues epic mistakes of personal and global scale)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3k_QDnzHE&index=1&list=PLsnpYqkfbbU2RgVMwMGe5ai1h5xVVoO2d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3k_QDnzHE&index=1&list=PLsnpYqkfbbU2RgVMwMGe5ai1h5xVVoO2d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3k_QDnzHE&index=1&list=PLsnpYqkfbbU2RgVMwMGe5ai1h5xVVoO2d
8 October 2016 01:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Veel lihtsamini:
"The main idea of Auftragstaktik is that “commanders should give subordinates general directions of what was to be done, allowing them freedom to determine how to do it” (Nielsen 1987, 22).
Või noh, ikka nad vist ei saanud sellele päriselt pihta Suure Plaani jaoks, see sobib väiksema lahingu jaoks mis pole lõplik,
kuid reaalse lopliku tarvis, vaja mitte lihtsalt soburitel teada, mis tuleb teha, vaid ka elu moraali koodeks ja elementaarsed teadmised mitmes eluvaldkonnas, et roboti barijäärist üle tulla, isegi olukordades kus eri relvadega hulga teadvust painutatakse, näiteks skisofreensust paisutavate relvadega nakatatakse või muud mitu tavalist naturaalsemat olukorda ilusatest naistega saunatamisest võõrmaal kuni õige metsavana käest austusega juhatuse saamine kogu väe suuna ja misjooni tunde osas
"The main idea of Auftragstaktik is that “commanders should give subordinates general directions of what was to be done, allowing them freedom to determine how to do it” (Nielsen 1987, 22).
Või noh, ikka nad vist ei saanud sellele päriselt pihta Suure Plaani jaoks, see sobib väiksema lahingu jaoks mis pole lõplik,
kuid reaalse lopliku tarvis, vaja mitte lihtsalt soburitel teada, mis tuleb teha, vaid ka elu moraali koodeks ja elementaarsed teadmised mitmes eluvaldkonnas, et roboti barijäärist üle tulla, isegi olukordades kus eri relvadega hulga teadvust painutatakse, näiteks skisofreensust paisutavate relvadega nakatatakse või muud mitu tavalist naturaalsemat olukorda ilusatest naistega saunatamisest võõrmaal kuni õige metsavana käest austusega juhatuse saamine kogu väe suuna ja misjooni tunde osas
8 October 2016 00:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Auftragstaktik can be seen as a doctrine within which formal rules can be selectively suspended in order to overcome "friction". Carl von Clausewitz stated that "Everything in war is very simple but the simplest thing is difficult". Problems will occur with misplaced communications, troops going to the wrong location, delays caused by weather, etc., and it is the duty of the commander to do his best to overcome them. Auftragstaktik encourages commanders to exhibit initiative, flexibility and improvisation while in command. In what may be seen as surprising to some, Auftragstaktik empowers commanders to disobey orders and revise their effect as long as the intent of the commander is maintained.
Interestingly there are cases cited where in combat the operational orders were a copy of orders that had been issued for an earlier operation or training exercise. It is claimed that almost the only thing that was changed were unit names and locations. This strongly suggests that long experience of operations had allowed senior commanders to be quite abstract in their orders, issued without great fear of being misunderstood. It also suggests that sequences of moves on quite a large scale were already familiar to the forces involved which probably made their execution better.
// yea was familiar with the forces y0! : )
... up to how much.. to where.. who really..
Interestingly there are cases cited where in combat the operational orders were a copy of orders that had been issued for an earlier operation or training exercise. It is claimed that almost the only thing that was changed were unit names and locations. This strongly suggests that long experience of operations had allowed senior commanders to be quite abstract in their orders, issued without great fear of being misunderstood. It also suggests that sequences of moves on quite a large scale were already familiar to the forces involved which probably made their execution better.
// yea was familiar with the forces y0! : )
... up to how much.. to where.. who really..
7 October 2016 23:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
had no understanding of Moltke the Elder's strategy. He did not much like those parts he did understand. He was uncooperative when under Moltke's orders and disobeyed them several times.[13] During the battle and without authorisation, he acted on his own initiative and launched a premature attack on the Austrian Army, which nearly ended in disaster. If the Crown Prince Frederick William had arrived only an hour later, the battle might have been decisively lost.[14]
After the First World War, this monitoring, coaching and training role built a level of trust, competency and understanding across the whole 4,000-strong German post-war officer corps which made a new level of excellence possible.
Excellence in this case is derived in part from the tradition of Gerhard von Scharnhorst, Carl von Clausewitz and Helmuth von Moltke and was based upon the premise that hard-and-fast rules had no place in the environment of war, which was the realm of human emotion, friction, chance and uncertainty. Moltke is considered one of the principal advocates of independent thinking and acting among his subordinates:
Diverse are the situations under which an officer has to act on the basis of his own view of the situation. It would be wrong if he had to wait for orders at times when no orders can be given. But most productive are his actions when he acts within the framework of his senior commander's intent.
After the First World War, this monitoring, coaching and training role built a level of trust, competency and understanding across the whole 4,000-strong German post-war officer corps which made a new level of excellence possible.
Excellence in this case is derived in part from the tradition of Gerhard von Scharnhorst, Carl von Clausewitz and Helmuth von Moltke and was based upon the premise that hard-and-fast rules had no place in the environment of war, which was the realm of human emotion, friction, chance and uncertainty. Moltke is considered one of the principal advocates of independent thinking and acting among his subordinates:
Diverse are the situations under which an officer has to act on the basis of his own view of the situation. It would be wrong if he had to wait for orders at times when no orders can be given. But most productive are his actions when he acts within the framework of his senior commander's intent.
7 October 2016 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
General Staff, as a systemic counter to the individual genius that had so soundly beaten them. Napoleon fought a continual battle of movement. Throughout his career (at least until the Peninsular war) he demonstrated his ability to defeat any enemy by the greater flexibility of his units and through better deployment. The fact that his troops were mainly composed of conscripts showed that it was his organisation of them and not their professional training that must have been superior. The institutionalization of excellence within the Prussian Army was to build this same flexibility as well as the other role of the General Staff Officer, which was to make sure each military unit understood and executed its mission.
One of the earliest alleged uses of Auftragstaktik was at the Battle of Königgrätz in the Austro-Prussian War. Auftragstaktik is one of the tools often claimed to have given the Prussians their decisive victory. This claim is difficult to accept, since no appreciation of Auftragstaktik had been accepted officially. The Bohemian Campaign could only have been an example of its use if having subordinate commanders that ignore directives from superiors, who march southward when ordered to march east, and treat their senior commanders with barely concealed contempt, can truly be described as a form of "flexible command".[12] Most of the Prussian commanders, particularly Frederick Charles of the 1st Prussian Army, had no understanding of Moltke the Elder's strategy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moltke_the_Elder
One of the earliest alleged uses of Auftragstaktik was at the Battle of Königgrätz in the Austro-Prussian War. Auftragstaktik is one of the tools often claimed to have given the Prussians their decisive victory. This claim is difficult to accept, since no appreciation of Auftragstaktik had been accepted officially. The Bohemian Campaign could only have been an example of its use if having subordinate commanders that ignore directives from superiors, who march southward when ordered to march east, and treat their senior commanders with barely concealed contempt, can truly be described as a form of "flexible command".[12] Most of the Prussian commanders, particularly Frederick Charles of the 1st Prussian Army, had no understanding of Moltke the Elder's strategy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moltke_the_Elder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moltke_the_Elder
7 October 2016 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Rest of wiki is interesting still, for general:
" Some would say that today[who?], such a culture is associated only with elite units and not a whole army. Few armies seem to have mastered the approach. The Wehrmacht are perhaps the premier example—a degree of competence achieved only after rigorous training under Hans von Seeckt between 1919 and 1935. Ironically, since World War II, only the Israeli Defence Force seem to have come close to matching the Wehrmacht of World War II in the exercise of command in this style: partly due to a conscious decision on the part of Moshe Dayan, who fought under British command in World War II, and who attended a British Army Staff training course which—according to his memoirs—greatly disappointed him.
This style of command originates in a state (Prussia) which perceived itself as small, surrounded by enemies, and in imminent danger of destruction. The same may be said of Israel. This may offer a clue to the failure of other equally developed armies to adopt this way of exercising command; for example, the British Army in 1987 announced an intention to adopt 'Mission Command', yet an internal 2004 British Army review of command and control in the Iraq War in 2003 clearly shows that they had achieved the reverse: British orders were substantially more detailed, and subordinates generally more constrained than twenty years earlier, indicating that there is more to Auftragstaktik than process.
Origins[edit]
After the severe defeat of the Prussians by Napoleon in 1806 in the Battle of Jena-Auerstedt, the Prussian military rethought their military approach and aimed to build a college of military capability, the General Staff, as a systemic counter to the individual genius that had so soundly beaten them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht
" Some would say that today[who?], such a culture is associated only with elite units and not a whole army. Few armies seem to have mastered the approach. The Wehrmacht are perhaps the premier example—a degree of competence achieved only after rigorous training under Hans von Seeckt between 1919 and 1935. Ironically, since World War II, only the Israeli Defence Force seem to have come close to matching the Wehrmacht of World War II in the exercise of command in this style: partly due to a conscious decision on the part of Moshe Dayan, who fought under British command in World War II, and who attended a British Army Staff training course which—according to his memoirs—greatly disappointed him.
This style of command originates in a state (Prussia) which perceived itself as small, surrounded by enemies, and in imminent danger of destruction. The same may be said of Israel. This may offer a clue to the failure of other equally developed armies to adopt this way of exercising command; for example, the British Army in 1987 announced an intention to adopt 'Mission Command', yet an internal 2004 British Army review of command and control in the Iraq War in 2003 clearly shows that they had achieved the reverse: British orders were substantially more detailed, and subordinates generally more constrained than twenty years earlier, indicating that there is more to Auftragstaktik than process.
Origins[edit]
After the severe defeat of the Prussians by Napoleon in 1806 in the Battle of Jena-Auerstedt, the Prussian military rethought their military approach and aimed to build a college of military capability, the General Staff, as a systemic counter to the individual genius that had so soundly beaten them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht
7 October 2016 23:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// if ya got no miracles, ya got no where to win. when unknown creeps in //
"Michael R. Fenzel is an active duty Colonel in the U.S. Army, currently serving as a Senior Military Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. He most recently served as the commander of the 3rd Brigade Combat Team and then chief of staff for the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. He is the Chairman of the Council for Emerging National Security Affairs (CENSA), a life-member of the Council on Foreign Relations, and a former member the National Security Council Staff in the White House."
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// (no direct magic talks on that book, fro mcover) ///
"senior leadership of the Soviet Union became aware that their strategy was unraveling, their operational and tactical methods were not working, and the sacrifices they were demanding from the Soviet people and military were unlikely to produce the results they hoped for. They persisted nonetheless, and it took the Soviets another four years to get out.
In No Miracles, Michael Fenzel explains why and how that happened, as viewed from the center of the Soviet state. From that perspective, three sources of failure stand out: poor civil-military relations; repeated and rapid turnover of Soviet leadership; and the perception that Soviet global prestige and influence were inexorably tied to the success of the Afghan mission. "
// so this was the earthly reasons, but why was them so.. when knowladge how must be, was near good ? //
--
" cost of delaying withdrawal is similarly high for the United States. The Soviet case is instructive for policymakers and suggests that speeding up plans for withdrawal and preventing engagement in another conflict might be strongly considered. .:
// might be.. well.. Syria..
The Syrian Revolution 2011 الثورة السورية ضد بشار الاسد
http://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=25002
"Michael R. Fenzel is an active duty Colonel in the U.S. Army, currently serving as a Senior Military Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. He most recently served as the commander of the 3rd Brigade Combat Team and then chief of staff for the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. He is the Chairman of the Council for Emerging National Security Affairs (CENSA), a life-member of the Council on Foreign Relations, and a former member the National Security Council Staff in the White House."
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// (no direct magic talks on that book, fro mcover) ///
"senior leadership of the Soviet Union became aware that their strategy was unraveling, their operational and tactical methods were not working, and the sacrifices they were demanding from the Soviet people and military were unlikely to produce the results they hoped for. They persisted nonetheless, and it took the Soviets another four years to get out.
In No Miracles, Michael Fenzel explains why and how that happened, as viewed from the center of the Soviet state. From that perspective, three sources of failure stand out: poor civil-military relations; repeated and rapid turnover of Soviet leadership; and the perception that Soviet global prestige and influence were inexorably tied to the success of the Afghan mission. "
// so this was the earthly reasons, but why was them so.. when knowladge how must be, was near good ? //
--
" cost of delaying withdrawal is similarly high for the United States. The Soviet case is instructive for policymakers and suggests that speeding up plans for withdrawal and preventing engagement in another conflict might be strongly considered. .:
// might be.. well.. Syria..
The Syrian Revolution 2011 الثورة السورية ضد بشار الاسد
http://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=25002
http://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=25002
7 October 2016 23:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// (the soldier can render eventually useless, without knowing, what is right in warious important worlds from political to shamanic and homecare psychological situations.Reliious doctrine helps. ) //
"Eitan Shamir is a Research Fellow at the Dado Center for Interdisciplinary Military Studies, Israeli Defense Forces, and teaches in the Security Studies program at Tel Aviv University. His military experience includes service in the IDF's paratroops brigade and as a reserve officer in the IDF's Organizational Psychology Unit. "
This book examines in depth the experiences of the armed forces of each of these countries in implementing mission command, and reveals the key factors that have determined the success or failure of the implementation—factors such as the Revolution in Military Affairs (RMA), the spread of low-intensity conflicts and operations other than war, and differences in how military cultures interpret, articulate, and exercise the command function. It has significant implications for both the development of military doctrine and the training and education of tomorrow's military leaders.
Other good books also on that page to read before 2020, after that many things and real worrye may become absolutelly absolute:
http://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=20200
"Eitan Shamir is a Research Fellow at the Dado Center for Interdisciplinary Military Studies, Israeli Defense Forces, and teaches in the Security Studies program at Tel Aviv University. His military experience includes service in the IDF's paratroops brigade and as a reserve officer in the IDF's Organizational Psychology Unit. "
This book examines in depth the experiences of the armed forces of each of these countries in implementing mission command, and reveals the key factors that have determined the success or failure of the implementation—factors such as the Revolution in Military Affairs (RMA), the spread of low-intensity conflicts and operations other than war, and differences in how military cultures interpret, articulate, and exercise the command function. It has significant implications for both the development of military doctrine and the training and education of tomorrow's military leaders.
Other good books also on that page to read before 2020, after that many things and real worrye may become absolutelly absolute:
http://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=20200
http://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=20200
7 October 2016 23:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"In translation to English, the German word (which is not, nor ever has been, part of the official German military lexicon) loses some of its impact. It does not describe a set of tactics per se; it is certainly not limited to the tactical level of operations, nor is it a method of leadership, but it does encapsulate a style of command: Tactics focused on accomplishing the task/mission as opposed to Befehlstaktik, i.e. Tactics focused on executing a set of orders. Direct orders are an exception in the German armed forces, while "tasks" are the standard instrument of leadership from high command down to squad level.
Many other terms were used to denote concepts of mission-type tactics in Germany between 1891 and 1914, including Freies Verfahren (free method), Freie Taktik (free tactics), Auftragsverfahren (order method), Individualverfahren (individual method), Initiativverfahren (initiative method), to name a few. An excellent discussion of the evolution of the terminology is given by Leistenschneider."
http://www.hsozkult.de/publicationreview/id/rezbuecher-2225
https://www.h-net.org/reviews/showpdf.php?id=17475
https://goo.gl/4ePjdc Google books
https://goo.gl/z6qXBl zVab: Auftragstaktik preußisch-deutschen Heer 1871 1914 von Stephan Leistenschneider
Many other terms were used to denote concepts of mission-type tactics in Germany between 1891 and 1914, including Freies Verfahren (free method), Freie Taktik (free tactics), Auftragsverfahren (order method), Individualverfahren (individual method), Initiativverfahren (initiative method), to name a few. An excellent discussion of the evolution of the terminology is given by Leistenschneider."
http://www.hsozkult.de/publicationreview/id/rezbuecher-2225
https://www.h-net.org/reviews/showpdf.php?id=17475
https://goo.gl/4ePjdc Google books
https://goo.gl/z6qXBl zVab: Auftragstaktik preußisch-deutschen Heer 1871 1914 von Stephan Leistenschneider
http://www.hsozkult.de/publicationreview/id/rezbuecher-2225
7 October 2016 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
True, True;
google translation: "If, for the time being, he could only grasp them in idealistic constructions such as the Europe-Asia alternative, his drama was markedly different from the bourgeois Seelendrama by this far-reaching philosophical claim."
google translation: "If, for the time being, he could only grasp them in idealistic constructions such as the Europe-Asia alternative, his drama was markedly different from the bourgeois Seelendrama by this far-reaching philosophical claim."
7 October 2016 22:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui juba teemaks,
Overcoming Bureaucracy: The Idea of Auftragstaktik
Most contemporary governments have been shaped by ideas that were ground-breaking, innovative and even revolutionary three centuries ago. In the meantime, science and technology on the one hand, and the lives of people on the other, have dramatically progressed, at least locally.
Together with innere Führung, the concept of Auftragstaktik forms the basis of the ...
www.projectanticipation.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25%3Aovercoming-bureaucracy-the-idea-of-auftragstaktik&catid=17&Itemid=435
Overcoming Bureaucracy: The Idea of Auftragstaktik
Most contemporary governments have been shaped by ideas that were ground-breaking, innovative and even revolutionary three centuries ago. In the meantime, science and technology on the one hand, and the lives of people on the other, have dramatically progressed, at least locally.
Together with innere Führung, the concept of Auftragstaktik forms the basis of the ...
www.projectanticipation.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25%3Aovercoming-bureaucracy-the-idea-of-auftragstaktik&catid=17&Itemid=435
http://www.projectanticipation.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25%3Aovercoming-bureaucracy-the-idea-of-auftragstaktik&catid=17&Itemid=435
7 October 2016 22:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
jeerum, nu kuidas siis veel:D
( That culture is today often associated with elite units and not a whole army.)
Mission-type tactics (German: Auftragstaktik, from Auftrag and Taktik; also known as Mission Command in the US and UK), have (arguably) been a central component of the tactics of German armed forces since the 19th century. The term Auftragstaktik was coined by opponents of the development of mission-type tactics. Opponents of the implementation of mission-type tactics were called Normaltaktiker. In today's German army, the Bundeswehr, the term Auftragstaktik is considered an incorrect characterization of the concept; instead, Führen mit Auftrag ("leading by mission") is officially used, but the older, unofficial term is more widespread.
In mission-type tactics, the military commander gives subordinate leaders a clearly defined goal (the mission), the forces needed to accomplish that goal and a time frame within which the goal must be reached. The subordinate leaders then implement the order independently. The subordinate leader is given, to a large extent, the planning initiative and a freedom in execution which allows a high degree of flexibility at the Operational and Tactical levels of command. Mission-type Orders free the higher leadership from tactical details.
For the success of the mission-type tactics it is especially important that the subordinate leaders understand the intent of the orders and are given proper guidance and that they are trained so they can act independently. The success of the doctrine rests upon the recipient of orders understanding the intent of the issuer and acting to achieve the goal even if their actions violate other guidance or orders they have received. Taking the risks of violating other previously expressed limitations as a routine step to achieving a mission is a behaviour most easily sustained in a particular type of innovative culture. That culture is today often associated with elite units and not a whole army.
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Mission-type tactics are advocated, but not always used, ] by the Chain of command in the United States, ] Canadian, Dutch and the British Army. Mission Command is compatible with modern military net-centric concepts, ] and less centralized approaches to command and control (C2) in general. A review and analysis of mission-type tactics in a variety of military establishments is provided by Shamir
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission-type_tactics
( That culture is today often associated with elite units and not a whole army.)
Mission-type tactics (German: Auftragstaktik, from Auftrag and Taktik; also known as Mission Command in the US and UK), have (arguably) been a central component of the tactics of German armed forces since the 19th century. The term Auftragstaktik was coined by opponents of the development of mission-type tactics. Opponents of the implementation of mission-type tactics were called Normaltaktiker. In today's German army, the Bundeswehr, the term Auftragstaktik is considered an incorrect characterization of the concept; instead, Führen mit Auftrag ("leading by mission") is officially used, but the older, unofficial term is more widespread.
In mission-type tactics, the military commander gives subordinate leaders a clearly defined goal (the mission), the forces needed to accomplish that goal and a time frame within which the goal must be reached. The subordinate leaders then implement the order independently. The subordinate leader is given, to a large extent, the planning initiative and a freedom in execution which allows a high degree of flexibility at the Operational and Tactical levels of command. Mission-type Orders free the higher leadership from tactical details.
For the success of the mission-type tactics it is especially important that the subordinate leaders understand the intent of the orders and are given proper guidance and that they are trained so they can act independently. The success of the doctrine rests upon the recipient of orders understanding the intent of the issuer and acting to achieve the goal even if their actions violate other guidance or orders they have received. Taking the risks of violating other previously expressed limitations as a routine step to achieving a mission is a behaviour most easily sustained in a particular type of innovative culture. That culture is today often associated with elite units and not a whole army.
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Mission-type tactics are advocated, but not always used, ] by the Chain of command in the United States, ] Canadian, Dutch and the British Army. Mission Command is compatible with modern military net-centric concepts, ] and less centralized approaches to command and control (C2) in general. A review and analysis of mission-type tactics in a variety of military establishments is provided by Shamir
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission-type_tactics
7 October 2016 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on Asso Puidet's post.
Okey see on suht veider kaas panna ajakirjale, ära enam nii tee :D
7 October 2016 22:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Association for Transpersonal Psychology
(practical and relgious sense)7 October 2016 21:55
Margus Meigo commented on James Davis's post.
Group: Association for Transpersonal Psychology
Is intelligence good or bad?7 October 2016 21:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja praktilisus
7 October 2016 20:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ma täpselt ideaalselt naudin täpselt õigete koguste tähtede ja tähenduse ning ilu mahtumist enamustesse positustesse
7 October 2016 20:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tsekka tänavakvaliteeti:
Ja PS: Lastele on suur privaatne mänguväljak ka paari sammu ligidusel
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209128818114312&set=a.10209128367583049.1073741862.1135161043&type=3&theater
Ja PS: Lastele on suur privaatne mänguväljak ka paari sammu ligidusel
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209128818114312&set=a.10209128367583049.1073741862.1135161043&type=3&theater
7 October 2016 16:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja maanteed, teed on uued ja nagu sirkliga lõigatud,
muidu on ikka normaalseid kohti ka kus üle muru saab jalutada, ehk kus maaga kontaktis olla pidevalt kogematta
kui bussi peale jalutad(4 peatust, pidevalt, u15-20 min Estoniasse), voi ostukeskusesse ja solaariumisse mis ligi koos piruka müüjate jms metroo jaam on ka - ainult rongi pole veel:D
Nu peab ootama kuni Kersti Kaljulaid selle asja korda ajab, siis oleks otse moskvasse ja brüsselist rooma ka ühendus, kui lounaks sinna vaja jõuda on magnet rongiga.
muidu on ikka normaalseid kohti ka kus üle muru saab jalutada, ehk kus maaga kontaktis olla pidevalt kogematta
kui bussi peale jalutad(4 peatust, pidevalt, u15-20 min Estoniasse), voi ostukeskusesse ja solaariumisse mis ligi koos piruka müüjate jms metroo jaam on ka - ainult rongi pole veel:D
Nu peab ootama kuni Kersti Kaljulaid selle asja korda ajab, siis oleks otse moskvasse ja brüsselist rooma ka ühendus, kui lounaks sinna vaja jõuda on magnet rongiga.
7 October 2016 16:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui ma tahaks, eriti ära petta, siis lausa ütleks, et selline:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209128819434345&set=a.10209128367583049.1073741862.1135161043&type=3&theater
Kuid noh, mitte igal pool, lihtsalt enamustes neis kohtades kus vaatad, näed puid ja tillukesi teoreetilisi pargijuppe
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209128819434345&set=a.10209128367583049.1073741862.1135161043&type=3&theater
Kuid noh, mitte igal pool, lihtsalt enamustes neis kohtades kus vaatad, näed puid ja tillukesi teoreetilisi pargijuppe
7 October 2016 15:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lasnamäe looduslik koht,
nu võrreldes päris linnadega
Loodus on aknast vaadates selline: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209128836874781&set=a.10209128367583049.1073741862.1135161043&type=3&theater
nu võrreldes päris linnadega
Loodus on aknast vaadates selline: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209128836874781&set=a.10209128367583049.1073741862.1135161043&type=3&theater
7 October 2016 15:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Giving people the silent treatment is rarely an effective tactic. If people don’t know what they did wrong, they don’t have the opportunity to make amends. The Torah teaches: “Do not hate your brother in your heart.”2 When you feel that someone has wronged you, speak up.
6 October 2016 23:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Giving people the silent treatment is rarely an effective tactic. If people don’t know what they did wrong, they don’t have the opportunity to make amends. The Torah teaches: “Do not hate your brother in your heart.”2 When you feel that someone has wronged you, speak up."
6 October 2016 23:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rebbetzin Chana Schneerson
Teemas ka pagulased ja venemaa (Leedu, Poola ala), vanasti.
http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/133363/jewish/Memories-of-My-Mother.htm
Teemas ka pagulased ja venemaa (Leedu, Poola ala), vanasti.
http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/133363/jewish/Memories-of-My-Mother.htm
http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/133363/jewish/Memories-of-My-Mother.htm
6 October 2016 23:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
With this in mind, my aim is to really listen to these voices that I allow to rule and ruin me. When it is the loud voice of doom or gloom, or shame and blame, I clearly need to oust that voice from its position and replace it with the voice of truth, love, understanding, empathy and support. The voice that whispers to us that we are OK, that our neshamah (soul) is whole despite our imperfections, that we are always connected to G‑d, that we are always capable of choosing the high road and that we should do so right now.
Despite what took place even a second ago, now is when and where I have the power to script my life—and I can do it.
Despite what took place even a second ago, now is when and where I have the power to script my life—and I can do it.
6 October 2016 23:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Someone sinned, now what?"
I have been “bad.” I have given into a habit I am trying to quit; a habit I’ve struggled to quit since I was a teenager. I base my self-worth largely on whether I give in to the urge or am strong enough to hold myself back.
Now, yesterday was Shabbat, and this habit happens to violate a halachah (Jewish law) of Shabbat. Yet I felt I could not stop myself. There I was: a so-called observant woman, with the hot tray, urn and lights left on, noI could not stop myself problem, but helpless in the face of my compulsive urge.
Aware I was breaking Shabbat—even as I continued to exercise this fanatical and futile habit—I was bombarded by thoughts like “It’s too late,” “It’s done,” “Why stop now?” The perfectionist in me is a big believer in all or nothing and felt despondent by the already tainted-ness of Shabbat. Hand in hand, my yetzer harah (evil inclination) was throwing out comments like “You’re so weak,” “Hypocrite!” “You’ll probably never overcome this habit,” “Something big will have to knock you into shape—one day,” “What’s the point of starting again now, as this Shabbat and week ahead have been ruined.”
The Lubavitcher Rebbe taught that the most powerful mocker is the one within yourself.
But for a split-second, the lights go on inside, and I see clearly the flawed nature of these thoughts and how I am captive to them as if they are truth. For I know, on a deeper level, we are all imperfect human beings making mistakes, and hopefully, getting back up and trying again—and again.
Suddenly, it’s obvious that the voice spurring me on to not try at all is actually what is evil, and not the act itself. There is always hope and possibility. Sure, some challenges are harder than others, for reasons that run deep. But we can change direction at any moment.
The Lubavitcher Rebbe shared: “Know thatWe can change direction at any moment what you did a moment ago is irrelevant. All that matters is what you will do right now. Any voice that holds you back from moving forward—no matter how justified it may sound—any such voice is a voice of destruction and decay, not of growth and life.”1
http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/3397815/jewish/Ive-Sinned-Now-What.htm
I have been “bad.” I have given into a habit I am trying to quit; a habit I’ve struggled to quit since I was a teenager. I base my self-worth largely on whether I give in to the urge or am strong enough to hold myself back.
Now, yesterday was Shabbat, and this habit happens to violate a halachah (Jewish law) of Shabbat. Yet I felt I could not stop myself. There I was: a so-called observant woman, with the hot tray, urn and lights left on, noI could not stop myself problem, but helpless in the face of my compulsive urge.
Aware I was breaking Shabbat—even as I continued to exercise this fanatical and futile habit—I was bombarded by thoughts like “It’s too late,” “It’s done,” “Why stop now?” The perfectionist in me is a big believer in all or nothing and felt despondent by the already tainted-ness of Shabbat. Hand in hand, my yetzer harah (evil inclination) was throwing out comments like “You’re so weak,” “Hypocrite!” “You’ll probably never overcome this habit,” “Something big will have to knock you into shape—one day,” “What’s the point of starting again now, as this Shabbat and week ahead have been ruined.”
The Lubavitcher Rebbe taught that the most powerful mocker is the one within yourself.
But for a split-second, the lights go on inside, and I see clearly the flawed nature of these thoughts and how I am captive to them as if they are truth. For I know, on a deeper level, we are all imperfect human beings making mistakes, and hopefully, getting back up and trying again—and again.
Suddenly, it’s obvious that the voice spurring me on to not try at all is actually what is evil, and not the act itself. There is always hope and possibility. Sure, some challenges are harder than others, for reasons that run deep. But we can change direction at any moment.
The Lubavitcher Rebbe shared: “Know thatWe can change direction at any moment what you did a moment ago is irrelevant. All that matters is what you will do right now. Any voice that holds you back from moving forward—no matter how justified it may sound—any such voice is a voice of destruction and decay, not of growth and life.”1
http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/3397815/jewish/Ive-Sinned-Now-What.htm
http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/3397815/jewish/Ive-Sinned-Now-What.htm
6 October 2016 23:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6. Repay With Good
You have let go of all anger towards the people who hurt you. You have approached them in a friendly way for reconciliation. You have found a positive resolution to a negative situation. Is this where the process of forgiveness ends? According to the Tanya,3 you can still go another step further—to repay bad for good, to shower them with kindness and go out of your way to help them. The exemplar of this behavior is Joseph. Although he was abused by his brothers when they threw him into a pit and sold him into slavery, he forgave them completely. Moreover, he moved his family to Egypt during a famine and sustained them for the rest of his life in a most generous way.
Sounds a bit extreme? Does the person who harmed us “deserve” so much friendliness and consideration in return? When we treat people with love even when they are not deserving, G‑d reciprocates. When we stand before Him in judgment on Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, we don’t want Him to give us what we deserve. We want Him to judge us with kindness and compassion. We want to be judged by our potential, not by our actions. When we go to an extreme in judging others favorably and repaying hurt with kindness, G‑d will in turn shower His kindness upon us and grant us a good and sweet year filled with blessings.
You have let go of all anger towards the people who hurt you. You have approached them in a friendly way for reconciliation. You have found a positive resolution to a negative situation. Is this where the process of forgiveness ends? According to the Tanya,3 you can still go another step further—to repay bad for good, to shower them with kindness and go out of your way to help them. The exemplar of this behavior is Joseph. Although he was abused by his brothers when they threw him into a pit and sold him into slavery, he forgave them completely. Moreover, he moved his family to Egypt during a famine and sustained them for the rest of his life in a most generous way.
Sounds a bit extreme? Does the person who harmed us “deserve” so much friendliness and consideration in return? When we treat people with love even when they are not deserving, G‑d reciprocates. When we stand before Him in judgment on Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, we don’t want Him to give us what we deserve. We want Him to judge us with kindness and compassion. We want to be judged by our potential, not by our actions. When we go to an extreme in judging others favorably and repaying hurt with kindness, G‑d will in turn shower His kindness upon us and grant us a good and sweet year filled with blessings.
6 October 2016 23:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
5. Confront . . . or Retreat
When you are hurt by others, is it better to confront them and let them know how they made you feel, or is it better to retreat from contact for a while to lick your wounds? Or perhaps you should simply carry on as though nothing has happened?
Giving people the silent treatment is rarely an effective tactic. If people don’t know what they did wrong, they don’t have the opportunity to make amends. The Torah teaches: “Do not hate your brother in your heart.”2 When you feel that someone has wronged you, speak up.
You may choose to simply drop the subject if, on reflection, the matter is minor, unintentional and unlikely to recur. Retreat may be a good option when you need more time to work through your feelings and don’t feel ready to approach the person from a place of strength. If you do choose to broach the subject, wait until your anger has passed and you can discuss the matter calmly, without excess emotion. Make sure you explain how much you value the relationship before bringing up the incident that is bothering you.
If you would like to approach the person who hurt you, but are afraid it will devolve into an angry confrontation, it may help to enlist the services of a neutral mediator. Aaron the Kohen was known as someone who “loved peace and pursued peace.” When he’d see two people, A and B, in conflict, he’d go up to A in confidence and say: “B feels so bad about what happened! She really wishes she could make amends.” Then he’d go to B and say the same thing about A, and the reconciliation would naturally follow. If you choose to use a mediator, make sure that your mediator sincerely desires peace between the two parties. Another option is to express your feelings in a letter, keeping your tone as objective and respectful as possible.
However, if a person is habitually abusive or contemptuous towards you, don’t put yourself in a position in which he or she can hurt you again. In that case, your best option may be to end the relationship and take steps to protect yourself.
When you are hurt by others, is it better to confront them and let them know how they made you feel, or is it better to retreat from contact for a while to lick your wounds? Or perhaps you should simply carry on as though nothing has happened?
Giving people the silent treatment is rarely an effective tactic. If people don’t know what they did wrong, they don’t have the opportunity to make amends. The Torah teaches: “Do not hate your brother in your heart.”2 When you feel that someone has wronged you, speak up.
You may choose to simply drop the subject if, on reflection, the matter is minor, unintentional and unlikely to recur. Retreat may be a good option when you need more time to work through your feelings and don’t feel ready to approach the person from a place of strength. If you do choose to broach the subject, wait until your anger has passed and you can discuss the matter calmly, without excess emotion. Make sure you explain how much you value the relationship before bringing up the incident that is bothering you.
If you would like to approach the person who hurt you, but are afraid it will devolve into an angry confrontation, it may help to enlist the services of a neutral mediator. Aaron the Kohen was known as someone who “loved peace and pursued peace.” When he’d see two people, A and B, in conflict, he’d go up to A in confidence and say: “B feels so bad about what happened! She really wishes she could make amends.” Then he’d go to B and say the same thing about A, and the reconciliation would naturally follow. If you choose to use a mediator, make sure that your mediator sincerely desires peace between the two parties. Another option is to express your feelings in a letter, keeping your tone as objective and respectful as possible.
However, if a person is habitually abusive or contemptuous towards you, don’t put yourself in a position in which he or she can hurt you again. In that case, your best option may be to end the relationship and take steps to protect yourself.
6 October 2016 23:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
4. Grow From Pain
The next step is to turn the pain into growth. You know what it’s like to be hurt by someone’s insensitivity. So become exquisitely sensitive to the pain of others. Watch your words carefully before you speak. When you’re tempted to tear someone down, remember what it felt like when it was done to you. As Hillel says: “What is hateful to you, do not do unto your friend. This is the whole Torah; all the rest is commentary.”
Emotional pain stimulates us to reach deep inside for our reserves of inner strength. We realize that we cannot depend on external validation for our self-esteem. Our only true source of strength and identity is the soul. The more we identify with our soul, the less susceptible we are to petty slights and hurts. We have a sense of value and self-worth that is unshakable.
The next step is to turn the pain into growth. You know what it’s like to be hurt by someone’s insensitivity. So become exquisitely sensitive to the pain of others. Watch your words carefully before you speak. When you’re tempted to tear someone down, remember what it felt like when it was done to you. As Hillel says: “What is hateful to you, do not do unto your friend. This is the whole Torah; all the rest is commentary.”
Emotional pain stimulates us to reach deep inside for our reserves of inner strength. We realize that we cannot depend on external validation for our self-esteem. Our only true source of strength and identity is the soul. The more we identify with our soul, the less susceptible we are to petty slights and hurts. We have a sense of value and self-worth that is unshakable.
6 October 2016 23:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3. Take Responsibility
Forgiveness is rarely a one-way street. When you’ve been hurt, it’s difficult to be objective, but you need to be honest about the ways that you may have contributed to the situation. If someone made a hurtful comment, was it in reaction to something that you said or did? Did you cast the first stone? Usually, when a relationship breaks down, both sides share in the blame. It’s difficult to be the first to admit guilt, especially if you feel that the wrong done to you is out of proportion to what you did. But being first to apologize is not a sign of weakness—it’s a sign of strength, health and growth.
Forgiveness is rarely a one-way street. When you’ve been hurt, it’s difficult to be objective, but you need to be honest about the ways that you may have contributed to the situation. If someone made a hurtful comment, was it in reaction to something that you said or did? Did you cast the first stone? Usually, when a relationship breaks down, both sides share in the blame. It’s difficult to be the first to admit guilt, especially if you feel that the wrong done to you is out of proportion to what you did. But being first to apologize is not a sign of weakness—it’s a sign of strength, health and growth.
6 October 2016 23:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2. Analyze the Feeling
When you’re in the throes of a negative emotion, your mind is not receptive to logical thought. That’s why our sages advise: “Do not appease your friend while he is angry, and do not comfort him while his dead lies before him.”1 Later, though, there is room to coolly analyze what happened and why it upset you so much.
Very often, when you are upset by someone’s comment or action, it’s not what they said or did that bothers you, but the meaning that you infer from it.
“She didn’t come to my party. I’m not important to her.”
“He didn’t answer my e‑mail. Why does he ignore me like this?”
It’s painful to feel ignored, slighted, overlooked or excluded. But it’s possible that there is a different explanation for a person’s behavior, one that has nothing to do with you. And even if it does turn out to be true that you are not important to that person, that doesn’t mean you are worthless. Your value doesn’t depend on one person’s assessment.
Sometimes, you are hurt because your expectations for that relationship are not in sync with what that person is willing or able to give. You may need to accept that some relationships will always be one-sided and what you invest will not be reciprocated. Some people may never accept, appreciate or acknowledge you for who you are. That reflects more on their limitations, not on yours. Are you willing and able to accept them as they are? Not every relationship in life will be deep and meaningful; in fact, some will never be more than superficial.
You also need to take stock of how you treat your relatives and friends. If you’re upset with people because they didn’t come through for you, do you always make sure to come through for others? Are there people who’ve felt let down, disappointed or ignored by you? Use the painful event as a stimulus to make needed changes in the way you treat others.
When you’re in the throes of a negative emotion, your mind is not receptive to logical thought. That’s why our sages advise: “Do not appease your friend while he is angry, and do not comfort him while his dead lies before him.”1 Later, though, there is room to coolly analyze what happened and why it upset you so much.
Very often, when you are upset by someone’s comment or action, it’s not what they said or did that bothers you, but the meaning that you infer from it.
“She didn’t come to my party. I’m not important to her.”
“He didn’t answer my e‑mail. Why does he ignore me like this?”
It’s painful to feel ignored, slighted, overlooked or excluded. But it’s possible that there is a different explanation for a person’s behavior, one that has nothing to do with you. And even if it does turn out to be true that you are not important to that person, that doesn’t mean you are worthless. Your value doesn’t depend on one person’s assessment.
Sometimes, you are hurt because your expectations for that relationship are not in sync with what that person is willing or able to give. You may need to accept that some relationships will always be one-sided and what you invest will not be reciprocated. Some people may never accept, appreciate or acknowledge you for who you are. That reflects more on their limitations, not on yours. Are you willing and able to accept them as they are? Not every relationship in life will be deep and meaningful; in fact, some will never be more than superficial.
You also need to take stock of how you treat your relatives and friends. If you’re upset with people because they didn’t come through for you, do you always make sure to come through for others? Are there people who’ve felt let down, disappointed or ignored by you? Use the painful event as a stimulus to make needed changes in the way you treat others.
6 October 2016 23:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1. Validate the Hurt
Have you ever tried to convince yourself “That didn’t bother me” or “I don’t care” in response to an insult? Did it work? Denying emotional pain is rarely an effective method of handling it. When you are hurt by someone’s words or actions, it’s important to acknowledge the pain and allow yourself to feel it. Let the emotion come without trying to direct or control it. Don’t belittle yourself for feeling pain. Don’t tell yourself “That’s silly” or “I can’t believe I’m feeling this way.” Eventually, you will come to a point where you’re ready to put the matter into proper perspective. But while the feelings are raging, don’t try to intellectualize.
At the same time, don’t work up the feelings unnecessarily by reminding yourself of all the past wrongs this person has committed, or how this person “always” puts you down or “never” includes you. Just be in the moment until the emotion dissipates. Then you will be ready to rationally examine the event
Have you ever tried to convince yourself “That didn’t bother me” or “I don’t care” in response to an insult? Did it work? Denying emotional pain is rarely an effective method of handling it. When you are hurt by someone’s words or actions, it’s important to acknowledge the pain and allow yourself to feel it. Let the emotion come without trying to direct or control it. Don’t belittle yourself for feeling pain. Don’t tell yourself “That’s silly” or “I can’t believe I’m feeling this way.” Eventually, you will come to a point where you’re ready to put the matter into proper perspective. But while the feelings are raging, don’t try to intellectualize.
At the same time, don’t work up the feelings unnecessarily by reminding yourself of all the past wrongs this person has committed, or how this person “always” puts you down or “never” includes you. Just be in the moment until the emotion dissipates. Then you will be ready to rationally examine the event
6 October 2016 23:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
On Yom Kippur, we ask G‑d to forgive us for our sins. But He offers His forgiveness only for those sins we committed against Him. For sins we committed against our fellow man, Yom Kippur will not atone unless we personally ask for forgiveness from those we have wronged. So we’ve made it a ritual before Yom Kippur to make the rounds of our friends and make amends for any wrongs we may have committed during the year. In safe, healthy relationships, it’s relatively easy for us to forgive others and for them to forgive us.
But some people never ask for our forgiveness. Some people never ask for our forgivenessThey don’t show remorse, they don’t seem to care that they’ve hurt us, and they may even demean or belittle us for having been hurt. Why should we forgive them?
For our own sake. Holding on to past hurts and grudges is a heavy burden to carry. The longer we hold on to the grudge, the more power we give to our past tormentors. We owe it to ourselves to move on in life and establish an identity apart from them. Forgiveness is the best way to remove their ability to hurt us.
Forgiveness is a process of introspection and self-refinement, similar to the process of teshuvah (“repentance”) itself, and doesn’t require the involvement of those who hurt us. If they make the first move and ask for our forgiveness, all the better. But a state of forgiveness is something we achieve within ourselves, even if the other person will never reciprocate.
Here are some steps you can take to overcome hurt and reach a state of true forgiveness:
http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/3039144/jewish/To-Forgive-Is-Divine-6-Steps-to-Reach-True-Forgiveness.htm
But some people never ask for our forgiveness. Some people never ask for our forgivenessThey don’t show remorse, they don’t seem to care that they’ve hurt us, and they may even demean or belittle us for having been hurt. Why should we forgive them?
For our own sake. Holding on to past hurts and grudges is a heavy burden to carry. The longer we hold on to the grudge, the more power we give to our past tormentors. We owe it to ourselves to move on in life and establish an identity apart from them. Forgiveness is the best way to remove their ability to hurt us.
Forgiveness is a process of introspection and self-refinement, similar to the process of teshuvah (“repentance”) itself, and doesn’t require the involvement of those who hurt us. If they make the first move and ask for our forgiveness, all the better. But a state of forgiveness is something we achieve within ourselves, even if the other person will never reciprocate.
Here are some steps you can take to overcome hurt and reach a state of true forgiveness:
http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/3039144/jewish/To-Forgive-Is-Divine-6-Steps-to-Reach-True-Forgiveness.htm
http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/3039144/jewish/To-Forgive-Is-Divine-6-Steps-to-Reach-True-Forgiveness.htm
6 October 2016 23:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
By the morning, I was feeling much better, thank G‑d, and my husband went to shul. He has never needed to skip Yom Kippur services since then.In a way, I miss those days But all these years later, I am still grateful to him that he stayed with me that Yom Kippur night.
Now my children are 19 and 16. I sit in shul on Yom Kippur (and all other times) without distraction. I love singing the Yom Kippur songs with the whole congregation.
But, in a way, I miss those days when my children were little, even if it meant I couldn’t spend time in prayer the way I’d have liked.
The kiddie books are stashed away on the bottom shelf of our bookcase. They’re waiting for the next generation.
Now my children are 19 and 16. I sit in shul on Yom Kippur (and all other times) without distraction. I love singing the Yom Kippur songs with the whole congregation.
But, in a way, I miss those days when my children were little, even if it meant I couldn’t spend time in prayer the way I’d have liked.
The kiddie books are stashed away on the bottom shelf of our bookcase. They’re waiting for the next generation.
6 October 2016 23:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The memory is clear.
I’m sitting on the couch between my nearly 2-year-old daughter and my 4-year-old son. Strewn on the coffee table are pretzels, a plate of apple slices and two plastic cups of apple juice.
I am reading my way through a stack of Jewish kiddie books. My kids know many of the books by heart. MyWhat am I doing reading kids books on Yom Kippur? daughter grabs for the book I’m holding, and my son decides he wants it, too.
As I play referee, a cup of apple juice spills right on my skirt and drips down onto the tan carpet. Why did the landlord put in such a light carpet in an apartment with children?! I think for the hundredth time.
“Stay right here!” I tell my kids, as I go off to change my skirt. As I head for my room, I hear the bickering escalate. Even though I know these things are just part of life, I feel myself tense.
Calm down! I scold myself. No one spilled apple juice on purpose, to annoy you! And one more little stain on the carpet doesn’t matter. Who cares? I sigh. But here it is, Yom Kippur, and for one day, just for a few hours, I should be able to banish bad feelings. This is a day for repentance, and here I am getting upset over spilled juice. It’s not even milk.
I change my skirt, and determine that I am not going to let things get to me that, in the scheme of things, really are insignificant.
But what am I doing on Yom Kippur reading kiddie books? I ask myself. Is this what G‑d wants from me? Maybe He wants me to be in shul. I have a lot of repentance to do this year, G‑d knows.
Ah, but no. I realize, especially when both of my beautiful children run to greet me with hugs when I return, that caring for my young children on Yom Kippur is exactly what G‑d wants from me.
My machzor, the High Holy Day prayerbook, that sits on the mantel will just have to wait. I tell myself that when my children are napping, I will get a chance to pray. I won’t have all day to do so, but I’ll make the time count.
Still, a part of me longs to be in shul, praying with concentration, and singing the Yom Kippur tunes. How I love those songs! The familiar melodies bring back memories of praying alongside my family as a child.
As I settle my children down with a dumped-out box of Legos, I hum the Yom Kippur tunes and I sing some of the kids’ favorites songs with them, like “Dip the Apple in the Honey.” Later, I will be able to get in some praying with my machzor.
I didn’t marry until I was in my 30s, and I didn’t have children for six-and-a-half years. I had plenty of time when I could focus only on myself and my prayers. Now, my avodah (translated as both “work” and also “Divine service”) is to care for my children—even, and maybe especially, on Yom Kippur. G‑d instructs us to emulate Him. As He is merciful, so, too, should we should be merciful. We emulate Him when we feed the hungry, clothe the naked, and heal (or tend to) the sick, which is all part of childcare.
When I was expecting my daughter, I really felt sick the afternoon right before Yom Kippur. I was due in two months, and I was terrified. I called my rabbi. He told me to tell my husband to stay home from synagogue that night. My husband would have liked to be there for Kol Nidre and Yom Kippur services, but he understood that it was even more important for him to be home with me.
http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/3042676/jewish/I-Miss-Missing-Shul-on-Yom-Kippur.htm
I’m sitting on the couch between my nearly 2-year-old daughter and my 4-year-old son. Strewn on the coffee table are pretzels, a plate of apple slices and two plastic cups of apple juice.
I am reading my way through a stack of Jewish kiddie books. My kids know many of the books by heart. MyWhat am I doing reading kids books on Yom Kippur? daughter grabs for the book I’m holding, and my son decides he wants it, too.
As I play referee, a cup of apple juice spills right on my skirt and drips down onto the tan carpet. Why did the landlord put in such a light carpet in an apartment with children?! I think for the hundredth time.
“Stay right here!” I tell my kids, as I go off to change my skirt. As I head for my room, I hear the bickering escalate. Even though I know these things are just part of life, I feel myself tense.
Calm down! I scold myself. No one spilled apple juice on purpose, to annoy you! And one more little stain on the carpet doesn’t matter. Who cares? I sigh. But here it is, Yom Kippur, and for one day, just for a few hours, I should be able to banish bad feelings. This is a day for repentance, and here I am getting upset over spilled juice. It’s not even milk.
I change my skirt, and determine that I am not going to let things get to me that, in the scheme of things, really are insignificant.
But what am I doing on Yom Kippur reading kiddie books? I ask myself. Is this what G‑d wants from me? Maybe He wants me to be in shul. I have a lot of repentance to do this year, G‑d knows.
Ah, but no. I realize, especially when both of my beautiful children run to greet me with hugs when I return, that caring for my young children on Yom Kippur is exactly what G‑d wants from me.
My machzor, the High Holy Day prayerbook, that sits on the mantel will just have to wait. I tell myself that when my children are napping, I will get a chance to pray. I won’t have all day to do so, but I’ll make the time count.
Still, a part of me longs to be in shul, praying with concentration, and singing the Yom Kippur tunes. How I love those songs! The familiar melodies bring back memories of praying alongside my family as a child.
As I settle my children down with a dumped-out box of Legos, I hum the Yom Kippur tunes and I sing some of the kids’ favorites songs with them, like “Dip the Apple in the Honey.” Later, I will be able to get in some praying with my machzor.
I didn’t marry until I was in my 30s, and I didn’t have children for six-and-a-half years. I had plenty of time when I could focus only on myself and my prayers. Now, my avodah (translated as both “work” and also “Divine service”) is to care for my children—even, and maybe especially, on Yom Kippur. G‑d instructs us to emulate Him. As He is merciful, so, too, should we should be merciful. We emulate Him when we feed the hungry, clothe the naked, and heal (or tend to) the sick, which is all part of childcare.
When I was expecting my daughter, I really felt sick the afternoon right before Yom Kippur. I was due in two months, and I was terrified. I called my rabbi. He told me to tell my husband to stay home from synagogue that night. My husband would have liked to be there for Kol Nidre and Yom Kippur services, but he understood that it was even more important for him to be home with me.
http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/3042676/jewish/I-Miss-Missing-Shul-on-Yom-Kippur.htm
http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/3042676/jewish/I-Miss-Missing-Shul-on-Yom-Kippur.htm
6 October 2016 23:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hebrew - Jiddish is probabaly only language, that sounds more German then german it self!
6 October 2016 23:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
If I wanted.
There were actually people who defined themselves as Jews, who defined themselves as who they were, rather than who they weren’t. After soul-searching, questioning and observing, I realized that not only was G‑d real, He was a force in my life. He cared about me, and my becoming religious was not just about serving Him, but improving myself.
So slowly, oh so slowly, I began to change. Saturday became Shabbat, food became kosher. And I realized that there was meaning in the mundane. There was a connection to Someone who had high standards, and cared about us meeting them.
So I still do not hunt for eggs or buy a tree for my house. But rather, I prepare for Shabbat, make challah, keep kashrut and light my Shabbat candles on time (hopefully). I try to learn halachah, try to listen to Torah classes. Come the Hebrew month of Nissan, when I open my windows, I hear the sounds of vacuums whirring, water splashing and music blasting as my neighbors get busy with Passover cleaning. And I know that this is what I was meant to do.
Before, when I thought about being Jewish, it was merely a description, like my long eyelashes or brown hair. But as I learn and live my life as an observant Jewish woman, I see that it is so much more. It is who I am.
While it isn’t always easy, I try to keep G‑d in the forefront of my mind. When the good and the not-so-good happen, I remember that there is One who is in control.
Yes, I still struggle sometimes. Yes, there are times when I think that things would “certainly be easier if . . . ” But then I think of the billions of people in the world, and all the different pathsSaturday became Shabbat, food became kosher travelled by them. And that is when I feel truly blessed to have been chosen to be a Jew.
So yes, I still strive to be just like everyone else around me. But now, I surround myself with people like me. As the years have gone by, my waistband may have become elastic (cough) and my skirts longer, but now I am comfortable. The clothes fit.
There were actually people who defined themselves as Jews, who defined themselves as who they were, rather than who they weren’t. After soul-searching, questioning and observing, I realized that not only was G‑d real, He was a force in my life. He cared about me, and my becoming religious was not just about serving Him, but improving myself.
So slowly, oh so slowly, I began to change. Saturday became Shabbat, food became kosher. And I realized that there was meaning in the mundane. There was a connection to Someone who had high standards, and cared about us meeting them.
So I still do not hunt for eggs or buy a tree for my house. But rather, I prepare for Shabbat, make challah, keep kashrut and light my Shabbat candles on time (hopefully). I try to learn halachah, try to listen to Torah classes. Come the Hebrew month of Nissan, when I open my windows, I hear the sounds of vacuums whirring, water splashing and music blasting as my neighbors get busy with Passover cleaning. And I know that this is what I was meant to do.
Before, when I thought about being Jewish, it was merely a description, like my long eyelashes or brown hair. But as I learn and live my life as an observant Jewish woman, I see that it is so much more. It is who I am.
While it isn’t always easy, I try to keep G‑d in the forefront of my mind. When the good and the not-so-good happen, I remember that there is One who is in control.
Yes, I still struggle sometimes. Yes, there are times when I think that things would “certainly be easier if . . . ” But then I think of the billions of people in the world, and all the different pathsSaturday became Shabbat, food became kosher travelled by them. And that is when I feel truly blessed to have been chosen to be a Jew.
So yes, I still strive to be just like everyone else around me. But now, I surround myself with people like me. As the years have gone by, my waistband may have become elastic (cough) and my skirts longer, but now I am comfortable. The clothes fit.
6 October 2016 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Growing up, I was used to sitting at home on Dec. 25, watching movies and feeling lonely because everyone I knew was celebrating with their family. I was used to Easter, hearing my friends talk about their new dresses and the Easter-egg hunts. Now, I knew that Chanukah and Passover fell out around those times, but these holidays were nothing more than a blip on myOur definition of being Jewish just meant that we weren’t anything else radar. Our definition of being Jewish just meant that we weren’t anything else.
In my neighborhood, there weren’t very many Jews around; I think there were two others in my high school class of 250. My family raised us to be “just like everyone else”: to do well in school, get into a good college, get a job, get married and have kids. Now, I think those are pretty reasonable goals, and they can lead to a satisfying and fulfilling life. But we were missing something. When Sunday mornings or the holidays rolled around, our lack of plans made it pretty clear that we weren’t like everyone else.
When I think of my life at that time, I imagine trying to fit into an outfit that, well, just didn’t quite fit. The style is nice, even attractive. But either there is an annoying tag or the waistband is just a (wee) bit too tight (ahem). I could squeeze into the outfit, but I could never really get comfortable.
We didn’t have a tree, nor did we hunt for eggs. But we didn’t do much of the “Jewish stuff” either. We went to temple on Rosh Hashanah until I had my bat mitzvah (then my parents stopped our temple membership—it just wasn’t relevant anymore). We lit a menorah on Chanukah (a ritual that also petered out during my teenage years). We did have a seder—at a friend of my mother’s—until sports practice and after-school clubs made going to a several-hours-long meal unfeasible.
So our Judaism wasn’t defined by the beauty of being Jewish, but rather by what we weren’t supposed to do. That left me with a deep feeling of dissatisfaction. I tried the idea of just “believing in G‑d,” and that was my spirituality. For a time.
When it came time to go to college, I chose a school thatI still struggle sometimes had a large Jewish population and a Jewish feel. I was entranced with the idea of going to a place where I wouldn’t be “the other.” There, I met people who really had a relationship with G‑d. Felt His presence in their existence. Suddenly, Shabbat, kashrut and halachah (Jewish law) were no longer ancient relics from the days of my great-grandparents, but rather the basis for a real, living and breathing existence that I could have
http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/3395113/jewish/How-I-Overcame-a-Childhood-of-Bland-Judaism.htm
In my neighborhood, there weren’t very many Jews around; I think there were two others in my high school class of 250. My family raised us to be “just like everyone else”: to do well in school, get into a good college, get a job, get married and have kids. Now, I think those are pretty reasonable goals, and they can lead to a satisfying and fulfilling life. But we were missing something. When Sunday mornings or the holidays rolled around, our lack of plans made it pretty clear that we weren’t like everyone else.
When I think of my life at that time, I imagine trying to fit into an outfit that, well, just didn’t quite fit. The style is nice, even attractive. But either there is an annoying tag or the waistband is just a (wee) bit too tight (ahem). I could squeeze into the outfit, but I could never really get comfortable.
We didn’t have a tree, nor did we hunt for eggs. But we didn’t do much of the “Jewish stuff” either. We went to temple on Rosh Hashanah until I had my bat mitzvah (then my parents stopped our temple membership—it just wasn’t relevant anymore). We lit a menorah on Chanukah (a ritual that also petered out during my teenage years). We did have a seder—at a friend of my mother’s—until sports practice and after-school clubs made going to a several-hours-long meal unfeasible.
So our Judaism wasn’t defined by the beauty of being Jewish, but rather by what we weren’t supposed to do. That left me with a deep feeling of dissatisfaction. I tried the idea of just “believing in G‑d,” and that was my spirituality. For a time.
When it came time to go to college, I chose a school thatI still struggle sometimes had a large Jewish population and a Jewish feel. I was entranced with the idea of going to a place where I wouldn’t be “the other.” There, I met people who really had a relationship with G‑d. Felt His presence in their existence. Suddenly, Shabbat, kashrut and halachah (Jewish law) were no longer ancient relics from the days of my great-grandparents, but rather the basis for a real, living and breathing existence that I could have
http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/3395113/jewish/How-I-Overcame-a-Childhood-of-Bland-Judaism.htm
http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/3395113/jewish/How-I-Overcame-a-Childhood-of-Bland-Judaism.htm
6 October 2016 23:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
“I am so sorry,” I said softly, “Is there anything I can do to fix the situation?”
“No, there’s nothing you can do!”
“Well, let me know if you change your mind,” I said, gently. Then I turned around.
I felt frustrated that she was not accepting my apology, but at the same time, I felt a sense of inner peace. At least I had tried to apologize. At least I had tried to do damage control. At least I had cared for another person’s needs besides my own.
I watched the blonde lady out of the corner of my eye, as my mom and I finished checking out. Her arms uncrossed. Her eyes glazed as if they were far off somewhere. Her smug face became contemplative.
We had to walk by her on our way out of the store. Only two steps away from her, I felt a tense hand touch my shoulder. I turned around.
She looked me in the eye. “I am so sorry,” she said sincerely.
There was serenity in the air. Time stopped for a moment. Suddenly, all the problems of the world went away. Perhaps we were just two small people in a world of millions, but right here, right now, we understood each other.
So often we judge people based on a single incident with them. I may never know why she acted so harshly with me before. I do know that if I had reacted back in the same way, I would never have seen this side of her.
“I really overreacted,” her tone was very apologetic. “I hope you can forgive me.”
“No hard feelings,” I said kindly.
I was in awe of the power of forgiveness. “I’m sorry” is the most magical phrase that can ever be uttered. It is the bridge between war and peace, and the building block to the survival of humanity.
“No, there’s nothing you can do!”
“Well, let me know if you change your mind,” I said, gently. Then I turned around.
I felt frustrated that she was not accepting my apology, but at the same time, I felt a sense of inner peace. At least I had tried to apologize. At least I had tried to do damage control. At least I had cared for another person’s needs besides my own.
I watched the blonde lady out of the corner of my eye, as my mom and I finished checking out. Her arms uncrossed. Her eyes glazed as if they were far off somewhere. Her smug face became contemplative.
We had to walk by her on our way out of the store. Only two steps away from her, I felt a tense hand touch my shoulder. I turned around.
She looked me in the eye. “I am so sorry,” she said sincerely.
There was serenity in the air. Time stopped for a moment. Suddenly, all the problems of the world went away. Perhaps we were just two small people in a world of millions, but right here, right now, we understood each other.
So often we judge people based on a single incident with them. I may never know why she acted so harshly with me before. I do know that if I had reacted back in the same way, I would never have seen this side of her.
“I really overreacted,” her tone was very apologetic. “I hope you can forgive me.”
“No hard feelings,” I said kindly.
I was in awe of the power of forgiveness. “I’m sorry” is the most magical phrase that can ever be uttered. It is the bridge between war and peace, and the building block to the survival of humanity.
6 October 2016 23:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I would want someone to care about my feelings. I would like people to give me a break once in a while. But I don’t always give people the benefit of the doubt. My instinctive reaction of defending myself usually overrides rational thought.
I weighed my options. On the one hand, I could get angry with this woman and put her in her place. That’s the reaction she was probably expecting from me.
On the other hand, there is so much anger in the world already; I didn’t want to add another teaspoon to the mix. Maybe I wouldn’t change the world with a positive response. But it certainly would be worth a try.
Conceivably, my approach to the matter came because of my reflection that it was soon going to be Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement or forgiveness. It is a day where the Jewish people pray that our slate of sins be wiped clear. We ask G‑d if we can start anew and promise to do better in the year ahead.
One thing that G‑d cannot fix during Yom Kippur is the hurt we cause others. For that, we have to apologize to them. Today was as good a time as any to start.
“I’m so sorry you felt that way,” I said, in a voice I imagined could make a rock become smooth.
“Well, you should be sorry,” she responded in a chastising manner.
This was not the reaction I was expecting. I was trying really hard to be patient. I discreetly breathed in and out to calm myself. She was not making this easy for me.
I looked inside myself and thought again. If I got mad now, it would be built up from my first encounter with this woman. If I could do that, I thought, it meant I hadn’t truly forgiven her. The fact that I felt angry with her for not forgiving me the first time showed that I was still thinking about myself and not really being sensitive to her feelings. Perhaps her not forgiving me was a sign that I had not forgiven her either.
The other person forgiving you is not enough; you also have to be truly sorry for what you didBefore Yom Kippur, we ask people to forgive us. But the other person forgiving you is not enough; you also have to be truly sorry for what you did. I had unintentionally hurt this woman. I was not sensitive enough to acknowledge her before I ran in front of her. I needed to try to be more aware of others. I needed to become a more sensitive human being.
I weighed my options. On the one hand, I could get angry with this woman and put her in her place. That’s the reaction she was probably expecting from me.
On the other hand, there is so much anger in the world already; I didn’t want to add another teaspoon to the mix. Maybe I wouldn’t change the world with a positive response. But it certainly would be worth a try.
Conceivably, my approach to the matter came because of my reflection that it was soon going to be Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement or forgiveness. It is a day where the Jewish people pray that our slate of sins be wiped clear. We ask G‑d if we can start anew and promise to do better in the year ahead.
One thing that G‑d cannot fix during Yom Kippur is the hurt we cause others. For that, we have to apologize to them. Today was as good a time as any to start.
“I’m so sorry you felt that way,” I said, in a voice I imagined could make a rock become smooth.
“Well, you should be sorry,” she responded in a chastising manner.
This was not the reaction I was expecting. I was trying really hard to be patient. I discreetly breathed in and out to calm myself. She was not making this easy for me.
I looked inside myself and thought again. If I got mad now, it would be built up from my first encounter with this woman. If I could do that, I thought, it meant I hadn’t truly forgiven her. The fact that I felt angry with her for not forgiving me the first time showed that I was still thinking about myself and not really being sensitive to her feelings. Perhaps her not forgiving me was a sign that I had not forgiven her either.
The other person forgiving you is not enough; you also have to be truly sorry for what you didBefore Yom Kippur, we ask people to forgive us. But the other person forgiving you is not enough; you also have to be truly sorry for what you did. I had unintentionally hurt this woman. I was not sensitive enough to acknowledge her before I ran in front of her. I needed to try to be more aware of others. I needed to become a more sensitive human being.
6 October 2016 23:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Those magic words . . . "
“Excuse me,” the woman behind me said in an accusatory fashion.
I had just rejoined my mother in line. She was talking to the cashier, and I had walked in front of the woman in back of her in order to help my mother out. As a child, getting back in line with my mother was considered cute. But now, as a young adult, people are always accusing me of cutting them off.
“I’m with her,” I said, motioning to my mom.
“You are so rude,” the woman bellowed.
“You are so rude,” the woman bellowedI turned around and looked at this blonde 30-something. She was wearing stiletto heels and a leather skirt. Her gaze on me was as tight as her outfit. Her mouth was as stiff as her hairspray.
“Huh?” I questioned innocently.
“You went in front of me without saying ‘Excuse me.’ You have no manners,” she proclaimed.
How could someone say that to me? I thought. I took cotillion as a child. I took etiquette classes in college. I was a classy lady.
I convinced myself that this woman couldn’t possibly have all this anger towards me simply because she thought I cut her in line.
I thought about all the other reasons that she could be irritated. Maybe she was just fired from her job. Possibly her fiance just dumped her. Maybe her outfit was uncomfortable. Perhaps my supposed cutting her in line was just the thing to drive her over the edge.
The words of Hillel entered my head: “Do not do unto others what you would not want done unto you. That is the whole Torah. The rest is commentary.”
www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/1620467/jewish/Saying-Im-Sorry.htm
“Excuse me,” the woman behind me said in an accusatory fashion.
I had just rejoined my mother in line. She was talking to the cashier, and I had walked in front of the woman in back of her in order to help my mother out. As a child, getting back in line with my mother was considered cute. But now, as a young adult, people are always accusing me of cutting them off.
“I’m with her,” I said, motioning to my mom.
“You are so rude,” the woman bellowed.
“You are so rude,” the woman bellowedI turned around and looked at this blonde 30-something. She was wearing stiletto heels and a leather skirt. Her gaze on me was as tight as her outfit. Her mouth was as stiff as her hairspray.
“Huh?” I questioned innocently.
“You went in front of me without saying ‘Excuse me.’ You have no manners,” she proclaimed.
How could someone say that to me? I thought. I took cotillion as a child. I took etiquette classes in college. I was a classy lady.
I convinced myself that this woman couldn’t possibly have all this anger towards me simply because she thought I cut her in line.
I thought about all the other reasons that she could be irritated. Maybe she was just fired from her job. Possibly her fiance just dumped her. Maybe her outfit was uncomfortable. Perhaps my supposed cutting her in line was just the thing to drive her over the edge.
The words of Hillel entered my head: “Do not do unto others what you would not want done unto you. That is the whole Torah. The rest is commentary.”
www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/1620467/jewish/Saying-Im-Sorry.htm
6 October 2016 23:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You
Be a first-rate version of yourself, instead of a second-rate version of someone else.
// if only women, who is truly wake and on spirit would have read that,from a heart //
But sound it self, is still alright ... just know, we can be more! Great for who ever is doing that we say often.. but more better, if better is doing as internationall will be jugging
http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/3425483/jewish/The-Day-When-Satan-Is-Poweless.htm
Be a first-rate version of yourself, instead of a second-rate version of someone else.
// if only women, who is truly wake and on spirit would have read that,from a heart //
But sound it self, is still alright ... just know, we can be more! Great for who ever is doing that we say often.. but more better, if better is doing as internationall will be jugging
http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/3425483/jewish/The-Day-When-Satan-Is-Poweless.htm
6 October 2016 23:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oma vähese praeguste keelte otsa sobiks natuke jah, lisamõtteainet, kuigi, hiina keel on tegelik (praktiline) unistus, ja heebria (vaimu) oma
6 October 2016 22:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
loodetavasti neil need nimed meeles kes kuut kuutega tegeleda meeldivad
6 October 2016 22:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi, eks iga inimese kehastus ja muuks heaks loodu ole olulisem tunduvalt kui see kiirus ja pealiskaudsus millega nende elu kooritakse paberitele.. ja eks ka see tuleb muuta, ja ainult isiklikus noraalses inim suhtes oskavad olla olijatele, anda vestluseks aega,
pole mõtet vaimselt sügavalt magva inimeste grupiga rääkida vestlust aretada, sest nad ke steab mida küsida võivad mida pole vaja ja siis nende süõnadega nii endale kui teistele karuteenet teevad, arvates healjuhul, et see on lihtsalt töö
pole mõtet vaimselt sügavalt magva inimeste grupiga rääkida vestlust aretada, sest nad ke steab mida küsida võivad mida pole vaja ja siis nende süõnadega nii endale kui teistele karuteenet teevad, arvates healjuhul, et see on lihtsalt töö
6 October 2016 22:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hillar Kohv'i postitusele vastates, tuli selline hoog ja tunne peale.
Jäi veel lisamatta, see, et ta oskad õnnneks olla terav ja paika panev neile, kes presidendi ees puterdama tulevad ja nagu suvalist pintsakut interviueerima läheksid need kes unustanud, et nad tavapärase esileedi asemel ikka väga palju olulisema kehastuse ligi.
Jäi veel lisamatta, see, et ta oskad õnnneks olla terav ja paika panev neile, kes presidendi ees puterdama tulevad ja nagu suvalist pintsakut interviueerima läheksid need kes unustanud, et nad tavapärase esileedi asemel ikka väga palju olulisema kehastuse ligi.
6 October 2016 22:45
Margus Meigo commented on Hillar Kohv's post.
(LahtiSelgitus arusaamale, miks üllatuspresidendina olukorra päästnud Leedy KaljuLaid omab tänu olukorrale ILMSELGELT rohkem mõjuvõimu ja austust Eestlaste Uuestisünnile kaasaaitamiseks)
Et siis nõustun sellega, Mida Raul Sepper just Mart Ummelgale ütles,
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¤¤ see kuidas parteid olid Sunnitud oma häbis kergendusega
¤ leediliku Kaljulaiuga leppima, ja samas avastasid, et tõepoolest, see on parem versioon kui "kes iganes peale nende enda lemmik kandidaadi ",
(seega) siis on JUST Meie President üle pika aja See, kellel on mitmesuguseid eeliseid, Eesti ERA-konnad kokku ühtse pere ja arusaama suunas saada.
Sest mehed kes ei käitu nagu mehed, on lapselikud (ise arvavad, et naljakad või mõjuvõimsalt ülbed, või aatelised) ja laste kasvatamisega hästi hakkama saanud Emad juba teavad kuidas erinevaid posikesi kasvatada ja "paika panna"; sest Naised näevad mehe SISSE, emad eriti just õigemini,
oskavad ära ette tajuda selle "posikese" versiooni kes mehe sees veel mängleb ja läbi selle Meest seestpoolt paika keerata (kiirelt Targana suudab ka läbi näha erinevad noormehe arkehetyybid kui need mõnes erakonna otsas peaks esile tulema ning piitsa annab või andeks).
Lisaks igapäevaelu mõtlemine ja tarkus on tugevalt eElu suunaline, bioloogia, sellest kõrgemat tarkuse taset akadeemiliselt raske leida mis nii laialt füüsilise eluteadmisi hoomaks, ja Naisena, bioloogia teema mõtlmised on HOOPIS uuel tasemel sest juba lihtsalt pole võimalik mõelda kõiki sama mitmekesiselt suuri mõtteid Elu enda sünnitamisega seoses, mees teadlastel. Seega kuigi paberid näitavad seda mida nõutakse siis kõrvade_vahel on aga hoopis muu suurusega mõtted mille sisse mähkida need kes ilmselgelt elualastes arusaamades on puudulikud inimesed.
Ainuke vaev tal on nii puudulikutaset ära tabada piisavalt kergelt ja pehmelt suure hulga keskel, et teise teadmatuse tasemel osata vajalikult kõrgelt vastata, et viimane aru saaks ja samas ka, et ümbruskond lindil, päris targad kelle mõõdupuus olla, et ka nemad rhaul oleks, ilma liialt palju ründajat kompleksidesse viimata ja siis enda vastase lisa "ussi" luues.
(kui seda lauset lugeda pool lausete pausidena, nagu me president rahulikult räägib, [paus] , siis saab mu jutustjuba pärisaru :p)
Lisaks veel kõikide nimedega leedi Kaljulaid on kursis kes üldse olulised olnud ja detaile mitme meiemaa nurga osas teab Eestist sügavamalt kui enamus tarkureid, sest tal eestis mitu sellist töökohta oli (aastast 92 toimiva poliitsaate toimetaja), kus pidi lihtsalt teadma kõige targemini kõikidest asjadest mis poliitikas vähegi olulised võisid olla või OLI, lisaks lugude versioonide konteksti ja inimeste ajaloo joonelt analüüsimine, arusaamaks mis lugu kuidas juhtus ja kellega loos osaleja noorest peast tuttav oli.
Teadmaks seltskondade käitumisnorme ja mida talle sõbranna sõbrannad erinevate eliitide erapidudel ja ajaloost on ettekandnud. Ammu,
Ning kui veel sinna otsa lisada kontrollkoja maailmamastaapsed kõrgtasemega töö, kuhu ei saa tavaline ametnik kellel lubatud eksida ning otsesed ärilised kogemused ka olulistel finants kohtadel ja energiaga seoses.. tõepoolest, sellise mastaabiga vaimolend, kes kõige selle raskesti ületava CV juures, on suutnud jääda täiesti NAISELIKUKS ja veel keeleliselt vabaks, leebeks, rahulikuks, meeldivaks... vast ehk liiga tagasihoidlikuks isegi.. kuigi see vast ka voorus...
kujutage ette milline uhkuse pauk see -kellele iganes- muule poliitpürgijale oleks olnud, SELLISEL momendil, olukorras, saada ainuvalitsejaks selle olulise maakera nurgatipu osas, kellega kõik jõud ja erkaonnad, ja Eesti süda vaieldamatult nõus on (ning isegi enamus neti usse ja vanal programmil oelevaid kommentaatoreid hakkavad enda tekitatud vea shokist üle saama ja vaibuma.. va. need kes palgal ja KNurjusest veel ei julge lahti lasta..)
Ja seda kõike, samal ajal, kui maailma suurima ajaloolise võimu maa esimeseks nais Presidendiks KA samal ajal on tugevalt feministlik õigust nõudev naine, kes võlts lipsumeeste naratust ei salli kuidagi (ja veelvähem lipitsevaid petvaid mehi), ning kui hea see venemaa ja meie riigi suhetele saab olema, sest et Esiteks EI OLE sobilik tervemõistlikul inimesel või targal Valitsusel KaljuLaiu vastu midagi tõsist öelda liialt pikalt ja lõppudelõpuks nad teavad, et kui selle Rojaaalse Naisega nad rääkima tulevad, siis neid austuse ja reaalse huviga võetakse vastu, mitte lihtsalt päevaplaani täitmiseks, ilma, et keegi prooviks sellest midagi muud keerata ja pärast kaardina taga vastuolulist juttu ja plaani punuda.
Siiras lapseema, siiraste kavatsustega. Kes meid aasta 2020 ne sse ülemineku eest päästab, meie meeli ja südameid hoides üheskoos reaal reaalsuse ja soojuse ligi sedasi, et kõik muud aegruumis toimuvad pahandused meiest mööda lähevad , sest see milles kollektiivne teadvus ennast kannab, enamasti selles ta ennast ka välja kannab, seni kuni julgust, armastust ja lootust on.
Või Lootus, avastada uuesti Julgus Armastada
Tõeliselt Hea,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14fHy1dvqfc
Et siis nõustun sellega, Mida Raul Sepper just Mart Ummelgale ütles,
¤
¤¤ see kuidas parteid olid Sunnitud oma häbis kergendusega
¤ leediliku Kaljulaiuga leppima, ja samas avastasid, et tõepoolest, see on parem versioon kui "kes iganes peale nende enda lemmik kandidaadi ",
(seega) siis on JUST Meie President üle pika aja See, kellel on mitmesuguseid eeliseid, Eesti ERA-konnad kokku ühtse pere ja arusaama suunas saada.
Sest mehed kes ei käitu nagu mehed, on lapselikud (ise arvavad, et naljakad või mõjuvõimsalt ülbed, või aatelised) ja laste kasvatamisega hästi hakkama saanud Emad juba teavad kuidas erinevaid posikesi kasvatada ja "paika panna"; sest Naised näevad mehe SISSE, emad eriti just õigemini,
oskavad ära ette tajuda selle "posikese" versiooni kes mehe sees veel mängleb ja läbi selle Meest seestpoolt paika keerata (kiirelt Targana suudab ka läbi näha erinevad noormehe arkehetyybid kui need mõnes erakonna otsas peaks esile tulema ning piitsa annab või andeks).
Lisaks igapäevaelu mõtlemine ja tarkus on tugevalt eElu suunaline, bioloogia, sellest kõrgemat tarkuse taset akadeemiliselt raske leida mis nii laialt füüsilise eluteadmisi hoomaks, ja Naisena, bioloogia teema mõtlmised on HOOPIS uuel tasemel sest juba lihtsalt pole võimalik mõelda kõiki sama mitmekesiselt suuri mõtteid Elu enda sünnitamisega seoses, mees teadlastel. Seega kuigi paberid näitavad seda mida nõutakse siis kõrvade_vahel on aga hoopis muu suurusega mõtted mille sisse mähkida need kes ilmselgelt elualastes arusaamades on puudulikud inimesed.
Ainuke vaev tal on nii puudulikutaset ära tabada piisavalt kergelt ja pehmelt suure hulga keskel, et teise teadmatuse tasemel osata vajalikult kõrgelt vastata, et viimane aru saaks ja samas ka, et ümbruskond lindil, päris targad kelle mõõdupuus olla, et ka nemad rhaul oleks, ilma liialt palju ründajat kompleksidesse viimata ja siis enda vastase lisa "ussi" luues.
(kui seda lauset lugeda pool lausete pausidena, nagu me president rahulikult räägib, [paus] , siis saab mu jutustjuba pärisaru :p)
Lisaks veel kõikide nimedega leedi Kaljulaid on kursis kes üldse olulised olnud ja detaile mitme meiemaa nurga osas teab Eestist sügavamalt kui enamus tarkureid, sest tal eestis mitu sellist töökohta oli (aastast 92 toimiva poliitsaate toimetaja), kus pidi lihtsalt teadma kõige targemini kõikidest asjadest mis poliitikas vähegi olulised võisid olla või OLI, lisaks lugude versioonide konteksti ja inimeste ajaloo joonelt analüüsimine, arusaamaks mis lugu kuidas juhtus ja kellega loos osaleja noorest peast tuttav oli.
Teadmaks seltskondade käitumisnorme ja mida talle sõbranna sõbrannad erinevate eliitide erapidudel ja ajaloost on ettekandnud. Ammu,
Ning kui veel sinna otsa lisada kontrollkoja maailmamastaapsed kõrgtasemega töö, kuhu ei saa tavaline ametnik kellel lubatud eksida ning otsesed ärilised kogemused ka olulistel finants kohtadel ja energiaga seoses.. tõepoolest, sellise mastaabiga vaimolend, kes kõige selle raskesti ületava CV juures, on suutnud jääda täiesti NAISELIKUKS ja veel keeleliselt vabaks, leebeks, rahulikuks, meeldivaks... vast ehk liiga tagasihoidlikuks isegi.. kuigi see vast ka voorus...
kujutage ette milline uhkuse pauk see -kellele iganes- muule poliitpürgijale oleks olnud, SELLISEL momendil, olukorras, saada ainuvalitsejaks selle olulise maakera nurgatipu osas, kellega kõik jõud ja erkaonnad, ja Eesti süda vaieldamatult nõus on (ning isegi enamus neti usse ja vanal programmil oelevaid kommentaatoreid hakkavad enda tekitatud vea shokist üle saama ja vaibuma.. va. need kes palgal ja KNurjusest veel ei julge lahti lasta..)
Ja seda kõike, samal ajal, kui maailma suurima ajaloolise võimu maa esimeseks nais Presidendiks KA samal ajal on tugevalt feministlik õigust nõudev naine, kes võlts lipsumeeste naratust ei salli kuidagi (ja veelvähem lipitsevaid petvaid mehi), ning kui hea see venemaa ja meie riigi suhetele saab olema, sest et Esiteks EI OLE sobilik tervemõistlikul inimesel või targal Valitsusel KaljuLaiu vastu midagi tõsist öelda liialt pikalt ja lõppudelõpuks nad teavad, et kui selle Rojaaalse Naisega nad rääkima tulevad, siis neid austuse ja reaalse huviga võetakse vastu, mitte lihtsalt päevaplaani täitmiseks, ilma, et keegi prooviks sellest midagi muud keerata ja pärast kaardina taga vastuolulist juttu ja plaani punuda.
Siiras lapseema, siiraste kavatsustega. Kes meid aasta 2020 ne sse ülemineku eest päästab, meie meeli ja südameid hoides üheskoos reaal reaalsuse ja soojuse ligi sedasi, et kõik muud aegruumis toimuvad pahandused meiest mööda lähevad , sest see milles kollektiivne teadvus ennast kannab, enamasti selles ta ennast ka välja kannab, seni kuni julgust, armastust ja lootust on.
Või Lootus, avastada uuesti Julgus Armastada
Tõeliselt Hea,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14fHy1dvqfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14fHy1dvqfc
6 October 2016 22:37
Margus Meigo replied to Mart Ummelas's comment.
(LahtiSelgitus arusaamale, miks üllatuspresidendina olukorra päästnud Leedy KaljuLaid omab tänu olukorrale ILMSELGELT rohkem mõjuvõimu ja austust Eestlaste Uuestisünnile kaasaaitamiseks)
Et siis nõustun sellega, Mida Raul Sepper just Mart Ummelgale ütles,
¤
¤¤ see kuidas parteid olid Sunnitud oma häbis kergendusega
¤ leediliku Kaljulaiuga leppima, ja samas avastasid, et tõepoolest, see on parem versioon kui "kes iganes peale nende enda lemmik kandidaadi ",
(seega) siis on JUST Meie President üle pika aja See, kellel on mitmesuguseid eeliseid, Eesti ERA-konnad kokku ühtse pere ja arusaama suunas saada.
Sest mehed kes ei käitu nagu mehed, on lapselikud (ise arvavad, et naljakad või mõjuvõimsalt ülbed, või aatelised) ja laste kasvatamisega hästi hakkama saanud Emad juba teavad kuidas erinevaid posikesi kasvatada ja "paika panna"; sest Naised näevad mehe SISSE, emad eriti just õigemini,
oskavad ära ette tajuda selle "posikese" versiooni kes mehe sees veel mängleb ja läbi selle Meest seestpoolt paika keerata (kiirelt Targana suudab ka läbi näha erinevad noormehe arkehetyybid kui need mõnes erakonna otsas peaks esile tulema ning piitsa annab või andeks).
Lisaks igapäevaelu mõtlemine ja tarkus on tugevalt eElu suunaline, bioloogia, sellest kõrgemat tarkuse taset akadeemiliselt raske leida mis nii laialt füüsilise eluteadmisi hoomaks, ja Naisena, bioloogia teema mõtlmised on HOOPIS uuel tasemel sest juba lihtsalt pole võimalik mõelda kõiki sama mitmekesiselt suuri mõtteid Elu enda sünnitamisega seoses, mees teadlastel. Seega kuigi paberid näitavad seda mida nõutakse siis kõrvade_vahel on aga hoopis muu suurusega mõtted mille sisse mähkida need kes ilmselgelt elualastes arusaamades on puudulikud inimesed.
Ainuke vaev tal on nii puudulikutaset ära tabada piisavalt kergelt ja pehmelt suure hulga keskel, et teise teadmatuse tasemel osata vajalikult kõrgelt vastata, et viimane aru saaks ja samas ka, et ümbruskond lindil, päris targad kelle mõõdupuus olla, et ka nemad rhaul oleks, ilma liialt palju ründajat kompleksidesse viimata ja siis enda vastase lisa "ussi" luues.
(kui seda lauset lugeda pool lausete pausidena, nagu me president rahulikult räägib, [paus] , siis saab mu jutustjuba pärisaru :p)
Lisaks veel kõikide nimedega leedi Kaljulaid on kursis kes üldse olulised olnud ja detaile mitme meiemaa nurga osas teab Eestist sügavamalt kui enamus tarkureid, sest tal eestis mitu sellist töökohta oli (aastast 92 toimiva poliitsaate toimetaja), kus pidi lihtsalt teadma kõige targemini kõikidest asjadest mis poliitikas vähegi olulised võisid olla või OLI, lisaks lugude versioonide konteksti ja inimeste ajaloo joonelt analüüsimine, arusaamaks mis lugu kuidas juhtus ja kellega loos osaleja noorest peast tuttav oli.
Teadmaks seltskondade käitumisnorme ja mida talle sõbranna sõbrannad erinevate eliitide erapidudel ja ajaloost on ettekandnud. Ammu,
Ning kui veel sinna otsa lisada kontrollkoja maailmamastaapsed kõrgtasemega töö, kuhu ei saa tavaline ametnik kellel lubatud eksida ning otsesed ärilised kogemused ka olulistel finants kohtadel ja energiaga seoses.. tõepoolest, sellise mastaabiga vaimolend, kes kõige selle raskesti ületava CV juures, on suutnud jääda täiesti NAISELIKUKS ja veel keeleliselt vabaks, leebeks, rahulikuks, meeldivaks... vast ehk liiga tagasihoidlikuks isegi.. kuigi see vast ka voorus...
kujutage ette milline uhkuse pauk see -kellele iganes- muule poliitpürgijale oleks olnud, SELLISEL momendil, olukorras, saada ainuvalitsejaks selle olulise maakera nurgatipu osas, kellega kõik jõud ja erkaonnad, ja Eesti süda vaieldamatult nõus on (ning isegi enamus neti usse ja vanal programmil oelevaid kommentaatoreid hakkavad enda tekitatud vea shokist üle saama ja vaibuma.. va. need kes palgal ja KNurjusest veel ei julge lahti lasta..)
Ja seda kõike, samal ajal, kui maailma suurima ajaloolise võimu maa esimeseks nais Presidendiks KA samal ajal on tugevalt feministlik õigust nõudev naine, kes võlts lipsumeeste naratust ei salli kuidagi (ja veelvähem lipitsevaid petvaid mehi), ning kui hea see venemaa ja meie riigi suhetele saab olema, sest et Esiteks EI OLE sobilik tervemõistlikul inimesel või targal Valitsusel KaljuLaiu vastu midagi tõsist öelda liialt pikalt ja lõppudelõpuks nad teavad, et kui selle Rojaaalse Naisega nad rääkima tulevad, siis neid austuse ja reaalse huviga võetakse vastu, mitte lihtsalt päevaplaani täitmiseks, ilma, et keegi prooviks sellest midagi muud keerata ja pärast kaardina taga vastuolulist juttu ja plaani punuda.
Siiras lapseema, siiraste kavatsustega. Kes meid aasta 2020 ne sse ülemineku eest päästab, meie meeli ja südameid hoides üheskoos reaal reaalsuse ja soojuse ligi sedasi, et kõik muud aegruumis toimuvad pahandused meiest mööda lähevad , sest see milles kollektiivne teadvus ennast kannab, enamasti selles ta ennast ka välja kannab, seni kuni julgust, armastust ja lootust on.
Või Lootus, avastada uuesti Julgus Armastada
Tõeliselt Hea,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14fHy1dvqfc
Et siis nõustun sellega, Mida Raul Sepper just Mart Ummelgale ütles,
¤
¤¤ see kuidas parteid olid Sunnitud oma häbis kergendusega
¤ leediliku Kaljulaiuga leppima, ja samas avastasid, et tõepoolest, see on parem versioon kui "kes iganes peale nende enda lemmik kandidaadi ",
(seega) siis on JUST Meie President üle pika aja See, kellel on mitmesuguseid eeliseid, Eesti ERA-konnad kokku ühtse pere ja arusaama suunas saada.
Sest mehed kes ei käitu nagu mehed, on lapselikud (ise arvavad, et naljakad või mõjuvõimsalt ülbed, või aatelised) ja laste kasvatamisega hästi hakkama saanud Emad juba teavad kuidas erinevaid posikesi kasvatada ja "paika panna"; sest Naised näevad mehe SISSE, emad eriti just õigemini,
oskavad ära ette tajuda selle "posikese" versiooni kes mehe sees veel mängleb ja läbi selle Meest seestpoolt paika keerata (kiirelt Targana suudab ka läbi näha erinevad noormehe arkehetyybid kui need mõnes erakonna otsas peaks esile tulema ning piitsa annab või andeks).
Lisaks igapäevaelu mõtlemine ja tarkus on tugevalt eElu suunaline, bioloogia, sellest kõrgemat tarkuse taset akadeemiliselt raske leida mis nii laialt füüsilise eluteadmisi hoomaks, ja Naisena, bioloogia teema mõtlmised on HOOPIS uuel tasemel sest juba lihtsalt pole võimalik mõelda kõiki sama mitmekesiselt suuri mõtteid Elu enda sünnitamisega seoses, mees teadlastel. Seega kuigi paberid näitavad seda mida nõutakse siis kõrvade_vahel on aga hoopis muu suurusega mõtted mille sisse mähkida need kes ilmselgelt elualastes arusaamades on puudulikud inimesed.
Ainuke vaev tal on nii puudulikutaset ära tabada piisavalt kergelt ja pehmelt suure hulga keskel, et teise teadmatuse tasemel osata vajalikult kõrgelt vastata, et viimane aru saaks ja samas ka, et ümbruskond lindil, päris targad kelle mõõdupuus olla, et ka nemad rhaul oleks, ilma liialt palju ründajat kompleksidesse viimata ja siis enda vastase lisa "ussi" luues.
(kui seda lauset lugeda pool lausete pausidena, nagu me president rahulikult räägib, [paus] , siis saab mu jutustjuba pärisaru :p)
Lisaks veel kõikide nimedega leedi Kaljulaid on kursis kes üldse olulised olnud ja detaile mitme meiemaa nurga osas teab Eestist sügavamalt kui enamus tarkureid, sest tal eestis mitu sellist töökohta oli (aastast 92 toimiva poliitsaate toimetaja), kus pidi lihtsalt teadma kõige targemini kõikidest asjadest mis poliitikas vähegi olulised võisid olla või OLI, lisaks lugude versioonide konteksti ja inimeste ajaloo joonelt analüüsimine, arusaamaks mis lugu kuidas juhtus ja kellega loos osaleja noorest peast tuttav oli.
Teadmaks seltskondade käitumisnorme ja mida talle sõbranna sõbrannad erinevate eliitide erapidudel ja ajaloost on ettekandnud. Ammu,
Ning kui veel sinna otsa lisada kontrollkoja maailmamastaapsed kõrgtasemega töö, kuhu ei saa tavaline ametnik kellel lubatud eksida ning otsesed ärilised kogemused ka olulistel finants kohtadel ja energiaga seoses.. tõepoolest, sellise mastaabiga vaimolend, kes kõige selle raskesti ületava CV juures, on suutnud jääda täiesti NAISELIKUKS ja veel keeleliselt vabaks, leebeks, rahulikuks, meeldivaks... vast ehk liiga tagasihoidlikuks isegi.. kuigi see vast ka voorus...
kujutage ette milline uhkuse pauk see -kellele iganes- muule poliitpürgijale oleks olnud, SELLISEL momendil, olukorras, saada ainuvalitsejaks selle olulise maakera nurgatipu osas, kellega kõik jõud ja erkaonnad, ja Eesti süda vaieldamatult nõus on (ning isegi enamus neti usse ja vanal programmil oelevaid kommentaatoreid hakkavad enda tekitatud vea shokist üle saama ja vaibuma.. va. need kes palgal ja KNurjusest veel ei julge lahti lasta..)
Ja seda kõike, samal ajal, kui maailma suurima ajaloolise võimu maa esimeseks nais Presidendiks KA samal ajal on tugevalt feministlik õigust nõudev naine, kes võlts lipsumeeste naratust ei salli kuidagi (ja veelvähem lipitsevaid petvaid mehi), ning kui hea see venemaa ja meie riigi suhetele saab olema, sest et Esiteks EI OLE sobilik tervemõistlikul inimesel või targal Valitsusel KaljuLaiu vastu midagi tõsist öelda liialt pikalt ja lõppudelõpuks nad teavad, et kui selle Rojaaalse Naisega nad rääkima tulevad, siis neid austuse ja reaalse huviga võetakse vastu, mitte lihtsalt päevaplaani täitmiseks, ilma, et keegi prooviks sellest midagi muud keerata ja pärast kaardina taga vastuolulist juttu ja plaani punuda.
Siiras lapseema, siiraste kavatsustega. Kes meid aasta 2020 ne sse ülemineku eest päästab, meie meeli ja südameid hoides üheskoos reaal reaalsuse ja soojuse ligi sedasi, et kõik muud aegruumis toimuvad pahandused meiest mööda lähevad , sest see milles kollektiivne teadvus ennast kannab, enamasti selles ta ennast ka välja kannab, seni kuni julgust, armastust ja lootust on.
Või Lootus, avastada uuesti Julgus Armastada
Tõeliselt Hea,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14fHy1dvqfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14fHy1dvqfc
6 October 2016 22:08
Margus Meigo replied to Sofia Tinto's comment.
Sellega on kõik nii hästi palju öeldud, et ütleb omakorda, millise uue mõttetasandi võimalus meie kodumaa tipus nüüd on
6 October 2016 21:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muidugi "Saaa.." asemel peaks olema "Saatus" vms,
sest mudu kannab elus alla viivat ja raskesi orjusesse ühendavat energiat endaga kaasas
sest mudu kannab elus alla viivat ja raskesi orjusesse ühendavat energiat endaga kaasas
6 October 2016 21:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ma arvan, et nad ehmatasid jako peale, faatsid, et see vend nii tripp
6 October 2016 21:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Savisaare otsese abiga oleks selle video veel paremaks saanud muidu
6 October 2016 20:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ajakohane : )
"Mailis Reps minu paremal käel, arvab et.."
"Hr. Edgar Savisaar Aga teil paremat kätt ei ole ju Mailist.."
"Vaadake, Noormehed, ka teie käel ei ole kedagi.."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-WH9SPG3_U
"Mailis Reps minu paremal käel, arvab et.."
"Hr. Edgar Savisaar Aga teil paremat kätt ei ole ju Mailist.."
"Vaadake, Noormehed, ka teie käel ei ole kedagi.."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-WH9SPG3_U
6 October 2016 20:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid ärge nüüd liiga ära erutuge,
6 October 2016 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui Ets hea ei oleks, siis ta oleks ju 77 asemel mingi muu numbri endale valinud. Lõppude lõpuks.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1205497556183472&set=pcb.1205498489516712&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1205497556183472&set=pcb.1205498489516712&type=3&theater
6 October 2016 20:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
graphic
www.thefader.com/2016/08/31/croatian-amor-an-angel-gets-his-wings-clipped
www.thefader.com/2016/08/31/croatian-amor-an-angel-gets-his-wings-clipped
http://www.thefader.com/2016/08/31/croatian-amor-an-angel-gets-his-wings-clipped
6 October 2016 17:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja siit edasi veel samm kaugemale:
And even step further
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6CtD5eVQOw
And even step further
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6CtD5eVQOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6CtD5eVQOw
6 October 2016 17:04
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Lillmann's comment.
Ja snii targa naise arusaamiseks, kuulamiseks, peab ka natukene mõistust ja süda olema mis mõistuse ja arukusega koostööd teeb.
Saada mulle ehk siia vastuseks, need sõnavõtud siis, niipalju kui neid on, mis Sind hirmutanud on (muidugi kui läbi liberaalide, kes ennast rahvuslasteks maskeerinud, filtri lasta siis tundub neile ETV kanal ja Osooni saade ka eliitide "rahvast" alla suruv mingisugune skeem,
tegelikult muidugi ei tundu.... ega enamus need teist ei teagi mis tunded on...need on emotsioonid, millest omakorda veel suur osa on puht staatilised.. ... vaid emotsiooni najal ädistatakse, katkise kadeduse ja vihaga seotud emotsiooni millesse manipuleeritud ja rahad mida makstakse üksikutele provokaatoritele, et need emotsiooniliste, katkiste vanemate sidemetega kadunukesi solgutaksid ja nende katelt kuumana hoiaks, kuni nad oma viimase hinge ka vihaga kaotanud )
Saadad mulle siis KÕIK lingid, võta aega, sest ma vaatan KÕIK nad läbi hoolega, mitu korda, arusaamaks, millest te aru ei saa. Ära too vabandusi,et "neid nii palju, et ei viitsi anda"
ära aja sellist asja.. kui Sul äda suur juba siis kogu ja kogu ja saada korralik pakett mulle töötamiseks.
Ja veel siis kui palju Pr. KaljuLaiu lähedasi ja sõpru Sa tead, mis nende vaated on?
Saada mulle ehk siia vastuseks, need sõnavõtud siis, niipalju kui neid on, mis Sind hirmutanud on (muidugi kui läbi liberaalide, kes ennast rahvuslasteks maskeerinud, filtri lasta siis tundub neile ETV kanal ja Osooni saade ka eliitide "rahvast" alla suruv mingisugune skeem,
tegelikult muidugi ei tundu.... ega enamus need teist ei teagi mis tunded on...need on emotsioonid, millest omakorda veel suur osa on puht staatilised.. ... vaid emotsiooni najal ädistatakse, katkise kadeduse ja vihaga seotud emotsiooni millesse manipuleeritud ja rahad mida makstakse üksikutele provokaatoritele, et need emotsiooniliste, katkiste vanemate sidemetega kadunukesi solgutaksid ja nende katelt kuumana hoiaks, kuni nad oma viimase hinge ka vihaga kaotanud )
Saadad mulle siis KÕIK lingid, võta aega, sest ma vaatan KÕIK nad läbi hoolega, mitu korda, arusaamaks, millest te aru ei saa. Ära too vabandusi,et "neid nii palju, et ei viitsi anda"
ära aja sellist asja.. kui Sul äda suur juba siis kogu ja kogu ja saada korralik pakett mulle töötamiseks.
Ja veel siis kui palju Pr. KaljuLaiu lähedasi ja sõpru Sa tead, mis nende vaated on?
6 October 2016 16:37
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Lillmann's comment.
Miks Sa selliseid perverstseid madalalubalisi jamasi jagad ja miks Sa meie presidendi ja kodumaa eest ei seisa, kus Su juured on?
6 October 2016 16:28
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Lillmann's comment.
Kuna Su pagulas propakandast ja liberaalide pestud teadvuses rohkem argumente pole, siis lihtsalt põgened sedasi, ja isegi ei suuda astuda siis normaalsesse diskusiooni selles osas, mis Sul viga on ?
6 October 2016 16:27
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Karhu's comment.
Muidugi Sinu naeru põhjust ma ei tea, loodan, et see oli selle läbikukkunud petu pärast mida siin korraldati
6 October 2016 04:31
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Karhu's comment.
Ega see päris naljkas muidugi ei ole,et siin nii haiglaselt riigivastaseid asju kiites takka kommenteeritakse,
Näitab inimeste lõtvust ja punast kõrvadevahet
Näitab inimeste lõtvust ja punast kõrvadevahet
6 October 2016 04:31
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek Vene's comment.
Telegramm tihti paneb oma valede või propakanda lõppu küsimärgi, sest ega ta tegelikult ju ei tea :D
Ega julgegi teada, KUI kõrgelt tTegelikult valiti, meie palvete toel
Ega julgegi teada, KUI kõrgelt tTegelikult valiti, meie palvete toel
6 October 2016 04:25
Margus Meigo replied to Metsküla Kalju's comment.
alla 60ne vist inimesed ei olnud võimeise diseseisvalt hakkama saama..
minu tõlgendus on veel DemonKraatiale, et deemonite võim ehk vaimne jumalatude võim, kus masse juhitakse kuid mass ise ei ole ennast võimeline juhtima,sest puudub südames Jumala tunnetus ja ainult oskab järgneda massidele ja vooludele, kontrolitav ja teed muutev hirmude ja mõnude läbi (jumala inimesed aga liiguvad Õiguse teel, ja oma eksimustest pööravad kohe, kui aru saavad ja neile seda mõistlikult selgitatakse teiste teadjate poolt, olgu need lapsed või linnud)
minu tõlgendus on veel DemonKraatiale, et deemonite võim ehk vaimne jumalatude võim, kus masse juhitakse kuid mass ise ei ole ennast võimeline juhtima,sest puudub südames Jumala tunnetus ja ainult oskab järgneda massidele ja vooludele, kontrolitav ja teed muutev hirmude ja mõnude läbi (jumala inimesed aga liiguvad Õiguse teel, ja oma eksimustest pööravad kohe, kui aru saavad ja neile seda mõistlikult selgitatakse teiste teadjate poolt, olgu need lapsed või linnud)
6 October 2016 04:20
Margus Meigo replied to Aldo Roomere's comment.
Kas see oleks õige, kutsuda rahvast sinu mahalaskmisele ?
6 October 2016 04:17
Margus Meigo replied to Metsküla Kalju's comment.
Jah, ja see hoiab ligi nii Merele, Kaldale kui muudele Saartele ja Metsadele, jäädes kindlalt ükohale mida usaldada saab
6 October 2016 04:17
Margus Meigo replied to Onu Rants's comment.
Seletage lahti?
6 October 2016 04:16
Margus Meigo replied to Heinri Slv's comment.
Vaimumaailmas jah, Õige ja Hea mäng see eest
kokkumäng peabki olema, sest maiselt kurjad siin Eesti vastu mittuaastat planeerisid väga kurja mängu, meil vaiba alt tõmbamiseks ja Tallina TV jms meedia, pea enamus meie meedia kaudu ajusi pestes, et rahvast riigi vastu vaiskelt ja märkamatult pöörata.
kokkumäng peabki olema, sest maiselt kurjad siin Eesti vastu mittuaastat planeerisid väga kurja mängu, meil vaiba alt tõmbamiseks ja Tallina TV jms meedia, pea enamus meie meedia kaudu ajusi pestes, et rahvast riigi vastu vaiskelt ja märkamatult pöörata.
6 October 2016 04:15
Margus Meigo replied to Asko Kalapüüdja's comment.
Kuidas sa midagi niiarulagedat rääkida saad?
Mis arvad,et selleks vaja siin elada või ASJADEST ARU SAADA, et asjadega kursis olla?
Räägib inimene, kes ise soome tööle kolinud või mis sa seal teed? Ja veel kommunistide hingetute loodud "anu0onymous" argade toetaja ka oled, Jeerum , ikka tead, et need kurja tegemiseks ja hea likvideerimiseks loodud, eks ?
Sest see opole ju loplik struktuur mis kuhugi viiks,see salatsemine ja maski taha peitmine. Kui hing ja vaim must on siis oledendiselt nagu zombi ori ja teed seda mida sulle viisnurga poolt ette kirjutatakse. mis enamasti on siis riigi ja headuse kirumine, joomine, suitsetamine ja siis vahele rasketöö rygamineja hinge murdmine, naiste murdmine, et neisse mustus sisse pääselks,
ja siis sina tuled siin nii kuri-haiget juttu rääkima, et meie presidenti sedasi nimetada, häbi ka Sul on ? OMa pere ja emaga saad hästi läbi ?
Mis arvad,et selleks vaja siin elada või ASJADEST ARU SAADA, et asjadega kursis olla?
Räägib inimene, kes ise soome tööle kolinud või mis sa seal teed? Ja veel kommunistide hingetute loodud "anu0onymous" argade toetaja ka oled, Jeerum , ikka tead, et need kurja tegemiseks ja hea likvideerimiseks loodud, eks ?
Sest see opole ju loplik struktuur mis kuhugi viiks,see salatsemine ja maski taha peitmine. Kui hing ja vaim must on siis oledendiselt nagu zombi ori ja teed seda mida sulle viisnurga poolt ette kirjutatakse. mis enamasti on siis riigi ja headuse kirumine, joomine, suitsetamine ja siis vahele rasketöö rygamineja hinge murdmine, naiste murdmine, et neisse mustus sisse pääselks,
ja siis sina tuled siin nii kuri-haiget juttu rääkima, et meie presidenti sedasi nimetada, häbi ka Sul on ? OMa pere ja emaga saad hästi läbi ?
6 October 2016 04:13
Margus Meigo replied to Margo Napp's comment.
Kõigeparem muidugi oleks AlgAllikas üles otsida Eestlastest, kes suure huviga selle tundmatu lehe maailma kuulsamate naiste top listi surfab nii tähelepanelikult, ja siis tema arvutist küsida seda algfaili, pilti, kuupäevaga, seda ju näha millal pilt tehtud ja salvestatud..
ja siis lehe adminnilt ka veel serveri faili koopiat küsida .. eksseda teeme ise kah, .. kuid kui tõde erineb fantaasiast mis vigane, siis vigase fantaaasia hoidjad endiselt, ei ole nõus (tihtipeale) ju oma kodumaa mustamise eest vabandama
et mis nendega siis teha?
ja siis lehe adminnilt ka veel serveri faili koopiat küsida .. eksseda teeme ise kah, .. kuid kui tõde erineb fantaasiast mis vigane, siis vigase fantaaasia hoidjad endiselt, ei ole nõus (tihtipeale) ju oma kodumaa mustamise eest vabandama
et mis nendega siis teha?
6 October 2016 04:09
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Lillmann's comment.
Ma ei ütlenud, et sina oled homo, vaid ajad "Homo ila" ja see oli küsimärgiga veel, andmaks mõista, et see oli üllatus küsimus "mis homo ila ajad??" et nagu miks ja mis Sul viga on.
Et kas Sa ise ei mõista, et see ideoloogia, ja arusaam milleskinni oled, on SAMADELT jõududelt, kes liberaale, homosi, greeka-rooma impeeriumi ja nõukogude liidu on meieni toonud,
mis mõttega ma selle pika jutu siia sulle panin, kui sa selle peale mõelda ei suvatsenud Aivar?
Parandus:
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Oih,
See pikk vastus oli siinse Gerli Joost'i kommentaari all olevale Jarmo Sits'ile hoopis kirjutatud, eks tee suht ühtemoodi tundu .. kuid eks loe seda ka ja siis vaata kas said lisa oma uskumustesse.
Mina Sinu ravi puhul tean mooduseid, kuid ehk siis Sina selgitad, mis osa ja miks Haige ma Su silmis paistan veel ja kuidas ravida?
Et kas Sa ise ei mõista, et see ideoloogia, ja arusaam milleskinni oled, on SAMADELT jõududelt, kes liberaale, homosi, greeka-rooma impeeriumi ja nõukogude liidu on meieni toonud,
mis mõttega ma selle pika jutu siia sulle panin, kui sa selle peale mõelda ei suvatsenud Aivar?
Parandus:
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Oih,
See pikk vastus oli siinse Gerli Joost'i kommentaari all olevale Jarmo Sits'ile hoopis kirjutatud, eks tee suht ühtemoodi tundu .. kuid eks loe seda ka ja siis vaata kas said lisa oma uskumustesse.
Mina Sinu ravi puhul tean mooduseid, kuid ehk siis Sina selgitad, mis osa ja miks Haige ma Su silmis paistan veel ja kuidas ravida?
6 October 2016 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Lillmann's comment.
Kurb on kuulata ja vaadata raisku läinud wannabe-patrioote, kes ise aru ka ei saa millise kurja küüsis nad on ja oma pimeduses edasi pettunult tormavad puna-propakanda saatel
Mina selgitan kuidas on, sellele pole vaja vastu vaielda, vaid kui vaja, siis küsi lisaks, et kuidas nii on ja uuri edasi, ma ei tegele vaidlustega, sest see arutu ettekaitses olev taidlemine on nende teema, kes ei soovi edasi progreseeruda enda loodud mõttevanglatest.
Mina selgitan kuidas on, sellele pole vaja vastu vaielda, vaid kui vaja, siis küsi lisaks, et kuidas nii on ja uuri edasi, ma ei tegele vaidlustega, sest see arutu ettekaitses olev taidlemine on nende teema, kes ei soovi edasi progreseeruda enda loodud mõttevanglatest.
6 October 2016 04:02
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Lillmann's comment.
Mainisin ma poole sõnagagi pagulasi v?
Saa oma pagulas fantaasiast üle ja õpi endale selgeks, et SINA ISE allud SELLELE ideoloogiale, kes neid pagulasi toodab ja ringi tassib, enne kui sellest ar uei saa, siis räägin ma ju nagu seinaga.
Saa oma pagulas fantaasiast üle ja õpi endale selgeks, et SINA ISE allud SELLELE ideoloogiale, kes neid pagulasi toodab ja ringi tassib, enne kui sellest ar uei saa, siis räägin ma ju nagu seinaga.
6 October 2016 03:58
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
lineaarsed arvutajad
6 October 2016 03:55
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Pole ka ime, sama kaudse ideoloogiaga mehed ju, samale võimule alluvad st,
node oma ideoloogia vähe rolli mängib, kui peremees nii suur on
node oma ideoloogia vähe rolli mängib, kui peremees nii suur on
6 October 2016 03:54
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Muidugi suvel vaja ,et maja tuult ka saaks
6 October 2016 03:53
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Mõistlik!
6 October 2016 03:52
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Vaatasin algul , et ta nahk ja oleks kuidagi nagu arvutiga üle tehtud vms, et nagu oleks multifilmilik vms
6 October 2016 03:52
Margus Meigo commented on Petya Barzilska's photo.
Anything we want, we can imagine on the green screen...but does it make it real or at least, will it took us to realism, eg. to a direction of a man-wWoman-god mission direction
6 October 2016 02:48
Margus Meigo replied to Gerli Joost's comment.
Nagu meil ka siin, reaalselt inimesed on tihti valitsuses, ka Kallas jms on seda kanti.
Veider, et mõisnikust EKRE meest just inimeste meheks peetakse, ometigi vanasti ju mõisade osas oldi kriitilisemad kui nad just suure kohaliku kasu ja heateo tootmisega tegelenud... et kohalik rahvas pidi ju Mmõisnikule au andma mõisniku hea ja asjaliku KOHALIKU tegevuse, või siis mõne suure teadusliku, kirjandusliku või muu väärtteo pärast, kuid ennekõike oli ikka kohaliku inimestega eluaitav suhe KOHALIKELE see mis määratles, kas mõisnik on reaalne või ülbik, muidu saks või uusrikas jms. See selleks.
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Siin
siis selle hegeDemonic teema kirjeldus kirjas, mis enamvähem aktsepteeritavalt võtab kokku elementaarse:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-hegemonic_globalization
"..Counter-hegemonic globalization is a social movement based in a perspective of globalization that challenges the contemporary view of globalization; neoliberal globalization. Counter-hegemonic globalization confronts the implicit idea of neoliberal globalization that the system of domination, as a consequence of the development of transnational networks, transportation and communication, is a natural and inevitable course for globalization. It maintains that transnational connections can instead be harnessed as the means to bring about more equitable distribution of wealth, power, and sustainable communities. Counter-hegemonic globalization, unlike neoliberal globalization, uses the assets of globalization to stand against any form of domination by hegemony, operating from a bottom-up process that stresses the empowerment of the local."
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" The project of counter-hegemonic globalization emerged mainly as a result of neoliberal policies and Structural Adjustment Programs in Latin America in the 1980s. The fundamental base for counter-hegemonic globalization movement has been the long history of labor unions struggle for better work environments and equitable distribution of welfare against the dominating authority. Currently, local and transnational trade unions play majors parts in the counter-hegemonic globalization movement.
For example, the South-based World Social Forum (WSF) [/(roomaimpeeriumi)Kommunistide kontrollida/] was organized as a joint venture between ATTAC and the Brazilian Workers Party to counter the World Economic Forum [/(roomaimpeeriumi)Kapitalistide kontrollida/]. It first began with the mission of rescuing classic social democratic agendas of social protection in danger of disappearing under neoliberal globalization and is now the representative organization that supports counter-hegemonic globalization.
// Kuigi, nemad (kes tunduvad olema vasak suur reaalnejõud välisekihina)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Brotherhood_of_Teamsters on rohkem, nagu Sinise meelsed (reaalsed kaubandus mehed ilma kapitalismita), olgugi et väliselt tõlgendatavalt "punaste" omaksvõetud struktuuris nad organizeerivad.
Kuid nii organiseerivad ka inimesed, vähema bürokraatiaga, kui lubataks.
// rohkem liikmeid neil kui eestlasi, pea iga 300 ameeriklase kohta üks.
Nii karmi eetikaga, et oma liidri 90ndatel lelulõpuni bännis ühe eksimuse tõttu. Isegi peale seda, kui tõestati, et süüd polnud, ametlikult.
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"..As a consequence, the dominant ideology may contain a mixture of socially progressive and regressive elements. Therefore, Marxists do not reject everything and anything related to the dominant ideology of capitalism; rather, they agree with its progressive elements and criticise its regressive elements. In other words, Marxist critiques of the dominant ideology of capitalism are not normally crude rejections of their content, but rather of their limiting, capitalist form."
"..In Marxist theory, one of the social classes of a society becomes the ruling class when they are a socially progressive force sufficiently powerful, with popular support of the other social classes, to overthrow the previous ruling class. For example, the great bourgeois revolutions of the 17th and 18th centuries occurred because the bourgeoisie had become the standard-bearer for social progress, the universal class. The bourgeoisie gradually began to lose its progressive character and became increasingly reactionary once it came to power (since it began to support the status quo rather than seek further social progress)."
[ja veel et]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posthegemony
" Posthegemony or post-hegemony is a concept which designates a period or a situation in which hegemony is no longer said to function as the organizing principle of a national or post-national social order, or of the relationships between and amongst nation-states within the global order.[1] The concept has different meanings within the fields of political theory, cultural studies and international relations. "
" The concept of posthegemony is related to the rise of the "multitude" as a social force which, unlike the "people", cannot be captured by hegemony, together with the roles of affect and habitus in mechanisms of social control and agency.[4] Posthegemony and its related terms are influenced by Gilles Deleuze and Félix Guattari, Pierre Bourdieu and Michael Hardt and Antonio Negri’s accounts of the supra- and infra-national forces that are said to have rendered obsolete the national-popular forms of coercion and consent through which, for Antonio Gramsci, hegemony structured and constituted society.
The features of posthegemony as a concept correspond closely to those of postmodernity. Thus, posthegemony theory argues that ideology is no longer a political driving force in mechanisms of social control, and that the modernist theory of hegemony, which depends on ideology, therefore no longer accurately reflects the social order.[5] Some commentators also argue that history is not, as Karl Marx described it, a class struggle, but rather a "struggle to produce class".[6]
The concept of posthegemony also resonates with the work of post-Foucauldian theorists such as Giorgio Agamben. Nicholas Thoburn, drawing on Agamben's discussion on the "state of exception," writes that "it is, perhaps, with the recasting of the relationship between law and politico-military and economic crises and interventions that is instituted in the state of exception that the time of hegemony is most revealed to have passed "
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Õrnalt asjakohane kriitika ka viimase asja osas:
"Among the criticisms of the theory of posthegemony is Richard Johnson's, that it involves "a marked reduction of social complexity." Johnson concedes that "one considerable achievement of ‘the post-hegemony project’ is to draw many observable post-9/11 features into a single imaginative picture, while also synthesizing different currents in contemporary social theory." But he argues that "it is strange, however, that the result is viewed as the end of hegemony rather than as a new hegemonic moment." He therefore calls for a rejuvenation of the concept of hegemony, rather than its abandonment."
Kuid eks seda 911'te proovitakse kõvasti üle tähtsustada, et sellel tähtsust oleks.
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Et siis eelkõige selle ingliskeelse teksti osas võid tagasisidet anda, sest minu oma võib vist liialt vaidlema ajada praegu veel. Lisaks pole ma seda kenasti kokkupandavalt arusaadavaks veel teinud. Muud toimetused seljas, seega peab juppmärgetega leppima, kuid üldise ülevaate peaks saama, ilma, et 1400 lehekülge lugeda.
Küsi selles osas õrna lisa, mis huvi pakkus või mis vastuolus tundub olema isegi kõige ideaalsema versiooni koostöös
Veider, et mõisnikust EKRE meest just inimeste meheks peetakse, ometigi vanasti ju mõisade osas oldi kriitilisemad kui nad just suure kohaliku kasu ja heateo tootmisega tegelenud... et kohalik rahvas pidi ju Mmõisnikule au andma mõisniku hea ja asjaliku KOHALIKU tegevuse, või siis mõne suure teadusliku, kirjandusliku või muu väärtteo pärast, kuid ennekõike oli ikka kohaliku inimestega eluaitav suhe KOHALIKELE see mis määratles, kas mõisnik on reaalne või ülbik, muidu saks või uusrikas jms. See selleks.
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Siin
siis selle hegeDemonic teema kirjeldus kirjas, mis enamvähem aktsepteeritavalt võtab kokku elementaarse:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-hegemonic_globalization
"..Counter-hegemonic globalization is a social movement based in a perspective of globalization that challenges the contemporary view of globalization; neoliberal globalization. Counter-hegemonic globalization confronts the implicit idea of neoliberal globalization that the system of domination, as a consequence of the development of transnational networks, transportation and communication, is a natural and inevitable course for globalization. It maintains that transnational connections can instead be harnessed as the means to bring about more equitable distribution of wealth, power, and sustainable communities. Counter-hegemonic globalization, unlike neoliberal globalization, uses the assets of globalization to stand against any form of domination by hegemony, operating from a bottom-up process that stresses the empowerment of the local."
---
" The project of counter-hegemonic globalization emerged mainly as a result of neoliberal policies and Structural Adjustment Programs in Latin America in the 1980s. The fundamental base for counter-hegemonic globalization movement has been the long history of labor unions struggle for better work environments and equitable distribution of welfare against the dominating authority. Currently, local and transnational trade unions play majors parts in the counter-hegemonic globalization movement.
For example, the South-based World Social Forum (WSF) [/(roomaimpeeriumi)Kommunistide kontrollida/] was organized as a joint venture between ATTAC and the Brazilian Workers Party to counter the World Economic Forum [/(roomaimpeeriumi)Kapitalistide kontrollida/]. It first began with the mission of rescuing classic social democratic agendas of social protection in danger of disappearing under neoliberal globalization and is now the representative organization that supports counter-hegemonic globalization.
// Kuigi, nemad (kes tunduvad olema vasak suur reaalnejõud välisekihina)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Brotherhood_of_Teamsters on rohkem, nagu Sinise meelsed (reaalsed kaubandus mehed ilma kapitalismita), olgugi et väliselt tõlgendatavalt "punaste" omaksvõetud struktuuris nad organizeerivad.
Kuid nii organiseerivad ka inimesed, vähema bürokraatiaga, kui lubataks.
// rohkem liikmeid neil kui eestlasi, pea iga 300 ameeriklase kohta üks.
Nii karmi eetikaga, et oma liidri 90ndatel lelulõpuni bännis ühe eksimuse tõttu. Isegi peale seda, kui tõestati, et süüd polnud, ametlikult.
..---
"..As a consequence, the dominant ideology may contain a mixture of socially progressive and regressive elements. Therefore, Marxists do not reject everything and anything related to the dominant ideology of capitalism; rather, they agree with its progressive elements and criticise its regressive elements. In other words, Marxist critiques of the dominant ideology of capitalism are not normally crude rejections of their content, but rather of their limiting, capitalist form."
"..In Marxist theory, one of the social classes of a society becomes the ruling class when they are a socially progressive force sufficiently powerful, with popular support of the other social classes, to overthrow the previous ruling class. For example, the great bourgeois revolutions of the 17th and 18th centuries occurred because the bourgeoisie had become the standard-bearer for social progress, the universal class. The bourgeoisie gradually began to lose its progressive character and became increasingly reactionary once it came to power (since it began to support the status quo rather than seek further social progress)."
[ja veel et]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posthegemony
" Posthegemony or post-hegemony is a concept which designates a period or a situation in which hegemony is no longer said to function as the organizing principle of a national or post-national social order, or of the relationships between and amongst nation-states within the global order.[1] The concept has different meanings within the fields of political theory, cultural studies and international relations. "
" The concept of posthegemony is related to the rise of the "multitude" as a social force which, unlike the "people", cannot be captured by hegemony, together with the roles of affect and habitus in mechanisms of social control and agency.[4] Posthegemony and its related terms are influenced by Gilles Deleuze and Félix Guattari, Pierre Bourdieu and Michael Hardt and Antonio Negri’s accounts of the supra- and infra-national forces that are said to have rendered obsolete the national-popular forms of coercion and consent through which, for Antonio Gramsci, hegemony structured and constituted society.
The features of posthegemony as a concept correspond closely to those of postmodernity. Thus, posthegemony theory argues that ideology is no longer a political driving force in mechanisms of social control, and that the modernist theory of hegemony, which depends on ideology, therefore no longer accurately reflects the social order.[5] Some commentators also argue that history is not, as Karl Marx described it, a class struggle, but rather a "struggle to produce class".[6]
The concept of posthegemony also resonates with the work of post-Foucauldian theorists such as Giorgio Agamben. Nicholas Thoburn, drawing on Agamben's discussion on the "state of exception," writes that "it is, perhaps, with the recasting of the relationship between law and politico-military and economic crises and interventions that is instituted in the state of exception that the time of hegemony is most revealed to have passed "
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Õrnalt asjakohane kriitika ka viimase asja osas:
"Among the criticisms of the theory of posthegemony is Richard Johnson's, that it involves "a marked reduction of social complexity." Johnson concedes that "one considerable achievement of ‘the post-hegemony project’ is to draw many observable post-9/11 features into a single imaginative picture, while also synthesizing different currents in contemporary social theory." But he argues that "it is strange, however, that the result is viewed as the end of hegemony rather than as a new hegemonic moment." He therefore calls for a rejuvenation of the concept of hegemony, rather than its abandonment."
Kuid eks seda 911'te proovitakse kõvasti üle tähtsustada, et sellel tähtsust oleks.
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Et siis eelkõige selle ingliskeelse teksti osas võid tagasisidet anda, sest minu oma võib vist liialt vaidlema ajada praegu veel. Lisaks pole ma seda kenasti kokkupandavalt arusaadavaks veel teinud. Muud toimetused seljas, seega peab juppmärgetega leppima, kuid üldise ülevaate peaks saama, ilma, et 1400 lehekülge lugeda.
Küsi selles osas õrna lisa, mis huvi pakkus või mis vastuolus tundub olema isegi kõige ideaalsema versiooni koostöös
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-hegemonic_globalization
6 October 2016 02:45
Margus Meigo replied to Gerli Joost's comment.
[et siis kuna sul meeldib palju lugeda, siin palju lugemist, ing. keelne põhiline mille osas võime rääkida]
Kuigi hegemoonia on potensiaalselt väga hea ning Globaalselt oluline, siis on see kolmandajärguline, Domineeriva Ideoloogia kõrval, mis on siis see millega Rooma Impeeriumi tekitanud (Vabandust!) Kurjad Jõud (ei hakka siin Maavälisest, MaaSisesest ja Vaimsest ning Jumalikust väest eriti rääkimagi momendil. Teema sirgjoonelisena hoidmiseks.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominant_ideology
Praegune Rooma-Greeka impeeriumi (-i vaimust tulnud) globaalne strateegia, mille kaudu nad maiselt juhivad, on " Marxism'i aurane " ja " Kapitalismi Suunaline " ehk siis hübriidkapitalism võiks mõni öelda koos kahepoolse ekstreemsusega,
ISM'us, kus inimeste usu peamiseks tugisambaks on mingi Teenuse (teo, orjatöö, teene või toote) vahetusest tekkiv füüsiline väärtus mis inimeste füüsilisi kehasi ja eluvajadusi stabiilselt toetab võimaldades soovijatel ka ühiskonna kordasaamisel neile valitud vaimsete ja intellektuaalsete tegevustega tegeleda. (et siis "tulevikus" kui korda saadud. Mitte, et nad ametlikult nende asjade vastu oma kõrgemates paberites oleks, kui ütlevad, et koolis sellest nad ei räägi, et inimesed oma algelises arengus,saaks kõigepealt oma päris ülesannetele [orjamisele] ja potensiaalile [potensiaali varjandile, mida orjapidajatel vaja] keskenduda, )
Mure muidugi selles, et sellise peaegu toimiva plaaniga, ei saa kunagi ühsikond korda, sest me peaksime alustama Jumalikust.
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Ehk siis, praegu Kommunism vs. Kapitalismi intellektuaalide teooria, soovitakse vahetada inimeste silmis, kahe erineva "grupi" Globalistide ja Globalistide Vastaste vahel.
Endiselt muidugi sama mäng käib (kui lipsumeestest kommunistid vs kapitalistid), kuid piirid veelgi meelega segasemad, paratamatult mitmekesised ja Mõlema Poole liidrid
(ametlikud ja ideoloogilised), on misjoonil ühiselt Maainimest alla tiriv.
//(Maa inimene siis see, kes pidi inglite üle valitsema, kuid inglid ja muud tondid selle plaaniga nõus ei olnud, et nii lihtsameelsed ja algselt võimetud olevused, peaksid nende tööd korraldama hakata ning seepärast korraldavsid ja korraldavad mitmekesist inimeste orjastamist ja reguleerimist, nii meie treenimiseks kui ka tõestuseks, et me ei saa hakkama lihtsamate asjadegagi, nagu suhete sassiajamisel elu toimimise ja suhete taastamisega jms, ehksiis mittesobilikud suuremaks valitsuseks, ehk siis inimeste vastased pikendavad enda positsiooni, venitades valimisi ja protsesse nagu Keskerakond, samal ajal suure suuga inimest ennast süüdistades asjades millele nad ise kaasa aitavad) //
muidugi allatirivad kuid
välja arvatud juhul kui nad just reaalselt maised (naised või maad ning naisi armastavad mehed), shamanistlikud või jumalavaimulikud
Kuigi hegemoonia on potensiaalselt väga hea ning Globaalselt oluline, siis on see kolmandajärguline, Domineeriva Ideoloogia kõrval, mis on siis see millega Rooma Impeeriumi tekitanud (Vabandust!) Kurjad Jõud (ei hakka siin Maavälisest, MaaSisesest ja Vaimsest ning Jumalikust väest eriti rääkimagi momendil. Teema sirgjoonelisena hoidmiseks.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominant_ideology
Praegune Rooma-Greeka impeeriumi (-i vaimust tulnud) globaalne strateegia, mille kaudu nad maiselt juhivad, on " Marxism'i aurane " ja " Kapitalismi Suunaline " ehk siis hübriidkapitalism võiks mõni öelda koos kahepoolse ekstreemsusega,
ISM'us, kus inimeste usu peamiseks tugisambaks on mingi Teenuse (teo, orjatöö, teene või toote) vahetusest tekkiv füüsiline väärtus mis inimeste füüsilisi kehasi ja eluvajadusi stabiilselt toetab võimaldades soovijatel ka ühiskonna kordasaamisel neile valitud vaimsete ja intellektuaalsete tegevustega tegeleda. (et siis "tulevikus" kui korda saadud. Mitte, et nad ametlikult nende asjade vastu oma kõrgemates paberites oleks, kui ütlevad, et koolis sellest nad ei räägi, et inimesed oma algelises arengus,saaks kõigepealt oma päris ülesannetele [orjamisele] ja potensiaalile [potensiaali varjandile, mida orjapidajatel vaja] keskenduda, )
Mure muidugi selles, et sellise peaegu toimiva plaaniga, ei saa kunagi ühsikond korda, sest me peaksime alustama Jumalikust.
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Ehk siis, praegu Kommunism vs. Kapitalismi intellektuaalide teooria, soovitakse vahetada inimeste silmis, kahe erineva "grupi" Globalistide ja Globalistide Vastaste vahel.
Endiselt muidugi sama mäng käib (kui lipsumeestest kommunistid vs kapitalistid), kuid piirid veelgi meelega segasemad, paratamatult mitmekesised ja Mõlema Poole liidrid
(ametlikud ja ideoloogilised), on misjoonil ühiselt Maainimest alla tiriv.
//(Maa inimene siis see, kes pidi inglite üle valitsema, kuid inglid ja muud tondid selle plaaniga nõus ei olnud, et nii lihtsameelsed ja algselt võimetud olevused, peaksid nende tööd korraldama hakata ning seepärast korraldavsid ja korraldavad mitmekesist inimeste orjastamist ja reguleerimist, nii meie treenimiseks kui ka tõestuseks, et me ei saa hakkama lihtsamate asjadegagi, nagu suhete sassiajamisel elu toimimise ja suhete taastamisega jms, ehksiis mittesobilikud suuremaks valitsuseks, ehk siis inimeste vastased pikendavad enda positsiooni, venitades valimisi ja protsesse nagu Keskerakond, samal ajal suure suuga inimest ennast süüdistades asjades millele nad ise kaasa aitavad) //
muidugi allatirivad kuid
välja arvatud juhul kui nad just reaalselt maised (naised või maad ning naisi armastavad mehed), shamanistlikud või jumalavaimulikud
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominant_ideology
6 October 2016 02:44
Margus Meigo replied to Gerli Joost's comment.
Gerli, eks ikka, kuid mure ka selles, et tihti inimesed ei mõista ega saa aru mida nad teavad.
Jarmo Sits
Su teooria on küll hea ja maailapilt arusaama suunaline, kuid kui Juba Prantsuse ja Ameerika teemad ette võtsid, siis loe edasi, ja mõista rohkematki veel. Esiteks, et peaksid tänama, et Gerli inimeste mõtteid targemalt õiges suunas suunab kui enamus ja pea kõik riigi kriitikud.
Teiseks, et see Prantsuse mitte allumine on punaste propakanda, sest ühed suurimad inimkonna allasuurujad on need kes oma kombitsad ammu prantsuse ülemklassis nii mugavalt sisse seadnud,et seda enda omaks pidasid, juba to aeg kiui need viikingid läbi Prantsusmaa Ingli, Inglismaad vallutama tulid, et kui mitte füüsilist, siis vaimset mõjuvõimu tuleviku tarbeks üle maise (s.h. Naiste!) ja üle jumaliku võimu saada (ehk mis siis praegu on, kus deemonite küüsis olevad lipsumehed julgevad ette reguleerida nii kuniga soole kui kirikule ja julgevad mitte kummardada Kuninganna maal tema või teiste Jumalavääriliste ees, paras soodoma kamoora oleks, kuid Õnneks kõrgemate väärtustega inimesi hingetute vahel oma hinge ja vere vaeva hingega, , hoiavad alles elus ilu )
Viimase aja läänemeelsete, vaimuvaba vaade ja maine tõlgendus hegemooniale.
ja natuke muud juttu, kuna Sul tundub, et meeldib palju lugeda Jarmo.
Ole hea, anna teada, millega ei nõustu või kuidas arusaad sellest mida välja toon.
Eestlased õnneks lisavad:
"Hegemooniaks ei piisa ainult poliitilisest võimust, vaid tuleb muuta ka inimeste teadvust." https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegemoonia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegemony
Charlemagne achieved hegemony in Europe, with dominance over France, Italy and Burgundy.
15th–19th centuries
Writing in The Politics of International Political Economy, Jayantha Jayman writes "If we consider the Western dominated global system from as early as the 15th century, there have been several hegemonic powers and contenders that have attempted to create the world order in their own images." He lists several contenders for historical hegemony.
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"-_After the Second World War, the United Nations was established and the five strongest global powers (China, France, the UK, the US, and the USSR) were given permanent seats on the U.N. Security Council, the organization's most powerful decision making body. Following the war, the US and the USSR were the two strongest global powers and this created a bi-polar power dynamic in international affairs, commonly referred to as the Cold War. The hegemonic conflict was ideological, between communism and capitalism, as well as geopolitical, between the Warsaw Pact countries (1955–1991) and NATO/SEATO/CENTO countries (1949–present). During the Cold War both hegemons competed against each other directly (during the arms race) and indirectly (via proxy wars). The result was that many countries, no matter how remote, were drawn into the conflict when it was suspected that their governments' policies might destabilise the balance of power. Reinhard Hildebrandt calls this a period of "dual-hegemony", where "two dominant states have been stabilizing their European spheres of influence against and alongside each other."
Proxy wars became battle grounds between forces supported either directly or indirectly by the hegemonic powers and included the Korean War, the Laotian Civil War, the Arab–Israeli conflict, the Vietnam War, the Afghan War, the Angolan Civil War, and the Central American Civil Wars.
Following the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991 the United States was the world's sole hegemonic power.
21st century
Various perspectives on whether the US was or continues to be a hegemon have been presented since the end of the Cold War. The American political scientists John Mearsheimer and Joseph Nye have argued that the US is not a true hegemon because it has neither the financial nor the military resources to impose a proper, formal, global hegemony. On the other hand, Anna Cornelia Beyer, in her book about counter-terrorism, argues that global governance is a product of American leadership and describes it as hegemonic governance.
The French Socialist politician Hubert Védrine in 1999 described the US as a hegemonic hyperpower, because of its unilateral military actions worldwide.
Pentagon strategist, Edward Luttwak, in The Grand Strategy of the Roman Empire outlined three stages, with hegemonic being the first and followed by imperial. In his view the transformation proved to be fatal and eventually led to the fall of the Roman Empire. His book is an implicit advice to Washington to continue the present hegemonic strategy and refrain from establishing empire."
// see seotud ka Järgneva postitusega, sissejuhatus,
selles osas,
et inimesed aru saaksid, et maise hegemoonia tõlgendus hakkab varsti kaduma (kuna see oli EELNEVALT ette eriti liberaalsete hegemoonikute poolt) ja siis lõpuks saavad inimesed aru ja valida, kas nad liberaalse-kommunistliku-roomaliku-satanisliku maailma alla otseselt alluvad ja allutavad ülejäänud eri meetotitega (s.h. virtuaal maailmad kus hoitakse neid, kesei oska, ei suuda, ei taha muutuda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xux5Nst1F5Q )
Jarmo Sits
Su teooria on küll hea ja maailapilt arusaama suunaline, kuid kui Juba Prantsuse ja Ameerika teemad ette võtsid, siis loe edasi, ja mõista rohkematki veel. Esiteks, et peaksid tänama, et Gerli inimeste mõtteid targemalt õiges suunas suunab kui enamus ja pea kõik riigi kriitikud.
Teiseks, et see Prantsuse mitte allumine on punaste propakanda, sest ühed suurimad inimkonna allasuurujad on need kes oma kombitsad ammu prantsuse ülemklassis nii mugavalt sisse seadnud,et seda enda omaks pidasid, juba to aeg kiui need viikingid läbi Prantsusmaa Ingli, Inglismaad vallutama tulid, et kui mitte füüsilist, siis vaimset mõjuvõimu tuleviku tarbeks üle maise (s.h. Naiste!) ja üle jumaliku võimu saada (ehk mis siis praegu on, kus deemonite küüsis olevad lipsumehed julgevad ette reguleerida nii kuniga soole kui kirikule ja julgevad mitte kummardada Kuninganna maal tema või teiste Jumalavääriliste ees, paras soodoma kamoora oleks, kuid Õnneks kõrgemate väärtustega inimesi hingetute vahel oma hinge ja vere vaeva hingega, , hoiavad alles elus ilu )
Viimase aja läänemeelsete, vaimuvaba vaade ja maine tõlgendus hegemooniale.
ja natuke muud juttu, kuna Sul tundub, et meeldib palju lugeda Jarmo.
Ole hea, anna teada, millega ei nõustu või kuidas arusaad sellest mida välja toon.
Eestlased õnneks lisavad:
"Hegemooniaks ei piisa ainult poliitilisest võimust, vaid tuleb muuta ka inimeste teadvust." https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegemoonia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegemony
Charlemagne achieved hegemony in Europe, with dominance over France, Italy and Burgundy.
15th–19th centuries
Writing in The Politics of International Political Economy, Jayantha Jayman writes "If we consider the Western dominated global system from as early as the 15th century, there have been several hegemonic powers and contenders that have attempted to create the world order in their own images." He lists several contenders for historical hegemony.
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"-_After the Second World War, the United Nations was established and the five strongest global powers (China, France, the UK, the US, and the USSR) were given permanent seats on the U.N. Security Council, the organization's most powerful decision making body. Following the war, the US and the USSR were the two strongest global powers and this created a bi-polar power dynamic in international affairs, commonly referred to as the Cold War. The hegemonic conflict was ideological, between communism and capitalism, as well as geopolitical, between the Warsaw Pact countries (1955–1991) and NATO/SEATO/CENTO countries (1949–present). During the Cold War both hegemons competed against each other directly (during the arms race) and indirectly (via proxy wars). The result was that many countries, no matter how remote, were drawn into the conflict when it was suspected that their governments' policies might destabilise the balance of power. Reinhard Hildebrandt calls this a period of "dual-hegemony", where "two dominant states have been stabilizing their European spheres of influence against and alongside each other."
Proxy wars became battle grounds between forces supported either directly or indirectly by the hegemonic powers and included the Korean War, the Laotian Civil War, the Arab–Israeli conflict, the Vietnam War, the Afghan War, the Angolan Civil War, and the Central American Civil Wars.
Following the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991 the United States was the world's sole hegemonic power.
21st century
Various perspectives on whether the US was or continues to be a hegemon have been presented since the end of the Cold War. The American political scientists John Mearsheimer and Joseph Nye have argued that the US is not a true hegemon because it has neither the financial nor the military resources to impose a proper, formal, global hegemony. On the other hand, Anna Cornelia Beyer, in her book about counter-terrorism, argues that global governance is a product of American leadership and describes it as hegemonic governance.
The French Socialist politician Hubert Védrine in 1999 described the US as a hegemonic hyperpower, because of its unilateral military actions worldwide.
Pentagon strategist, Edward Luttwak, in The Grand Strategy of the Roman Empire outlined three stages, with hegemonic being the first and followed by imperial. In his view the transformation proved to be fatal and eventually led to the fall of the Roman Empire. His book is an implicit advice to Washington to continue the present hegemonic strategy and refrain from establishing empire."
// see seotud ka Järgneva postitusega, sissejuhatus,
selles osas,
et inimesed aru saaksid, et maise hegemoonia tõlgendus hakkab varsti kaduma (kuna see oli EELNEVALT ette eriti liberaalsete hegemoonikute poolt) ja siis lõpuks saavad inimesed aru ja valida, kas nad liberaalse-kommunistliku-roomaliku-satanisliku maailma alla otseselt alluvad ja allutavad ülejäänud eri meetotitega (s.h. virtuaal maailmad kus hoitakse neid, kesei oska, ei suuda, ei taha muutuda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xux5Nst1F5Q )
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hegemoonia
6 October 2016 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Lillmann's comment.
[ja siis et]
Jah, E.V. paragraaf 45. ütleb kuidas ütleb, et kuidas ma siis selle suhtes eksisin Su südames? Selgita, mitte ära hoiata, siis õpime. (kuna Sa ise seda Usud, siis Sinu suunal saab ja Võib seda kasutada ning enda sõnade väevõimu sellega eemaldad, kui need [oma nõudmised] samale õiguslikuletTasemele sätid mille[kelle] iganesiga)
Lugesin oma paar Su suunalist sõnumit ja kui, siis ainult algus võib tunduda ülekohtune, kuid sedasi oli vaja Sulle leili anda, et näha mis selle naha all üldse alles veel on, kuid vabandused, kui need Sulle sümboolselt vajalikud, tulevad alles siis, Kui Sa Eraldi postitusena siin ja mujal avalikult vabandad, enda sigatseva käitumise osas meie inimkonna ja Kodumaa Vastu.
Oleks Sa ise veel algupärane robot või saatan, siis poleks hullu, või noh, siis ei oleks ka vabandusest tolku, robot teeb mida arusaama pannakse ja lipitseja vastavalt hirmule..
[ja veel et]
Ja ega ma Laigna arvamusega ei ühti, et "...omal maal võib peremees ükskõik kuidas olla ja mõelda..."
// [kuigi, ega Einar lõplikult ka ehk päris nii ei arva kui paistab kergelt, kuid arvatakse, et arvab, kuid ei saada aru lõpuni, miks ja kuidas] //
, sest see on utoopiline ja väär mõte mis ei ole jätkusuutlik kui seda, "Õigust" kui Aluspõhja ennast esimesena taga ajada.
Sa küll oled ja püüad olla püüdlik oma ringkonnas Eesti suunalisena, kuid tegelikult oled juba ammu VasakLaste manipuleeritud oma kodumaaVastu. [kodumaaVastu läbimõtlemata kriitikat tundma manipuleeritud ja VaenLaste mõtteid ja üritusi toetama vaikides trikitatud, Nagu See postitus siin, briljantne näide]
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Ja selgita,
kui ma vääralt seda ründavaks ei pidanud, mida Sul minu hariduse ja harituse osas ilkuda oli?
Jah, E.V. paragraaf 45. ütleb kuidas ütleb, et kuidas ma siis selle suhtes eksisin Su südames? Selgita, mitte ära hoiata, siis õpime. (kuna Sa ise seda Usud, siis Sinu suunal saab ja Võib seda kasutada ning enda sõnade väevõimu sellega eemaldad, kui need [oma nõudmised] samale õiguslikuletTasemele sätid mille[kelle] iganesiga)
Lugesin oma paar Su suunalist sõnumit ja kui, siis ainult algus võib tunduda ülekohtune, kuid sedasi oli vaja Sulle leili anda, et näha mis selle naha all üldse alles veel on, kuid vabandused, kui need Sulle sümboolselt vajalikud, tulevad alles siis, Kui Sa Eraldi postitusena siin ja mujal avalikult vabandad, enda sigatseva käitumise osas meie inimkonna ja Kodumaa Vastu.
Oleks Sa ise veel algupärane robot või saatan, siis poleks hullu, või noh, siis ei oleks ka vabandusest tolku, robot teeb mida arusaama pannakse ja lipitseja vastavalt hirmule..
[ja veel et]
Ja ega ma Laigna arvamusega ei ühti, et "...omal maal võib peremees ükskõik kuidas olla ja mõelda..."
// [kuigi, ega Einar lõplikult ka ehk päris nii ei arva kui paistab kergelt, kuid arvatakse, et arvab, kuid ei saada aru lõpuni, miks ja kuidas] //
, sest see on utoopiline ja väär mõte mis ei ole jätkusuutlik kui seda, "Õigust" kui Aluspõhja ennast esimesena taga ajada.
Sa küll oled ja püüad olla püüdlik oma ringkonnas Eesti suunalisena, kuid tegelikult oled juba ammu VasakLaste manipuleeritud oma kodumaaVastu. [kodumaaVastu läbimõtlemata kriitikat tundma manipuleeritud ja VaenLaste mõtteid ja üritusi toetama vaikides trikitatud, Nagu See postitus siin, briljantne näide]
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Ja selgita,
kui ma vääralt seda ründavaks ei pidanud, mida Sul minu hariduse ja harituse osas ilkuda oli?
6 October 2016 00:12
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Lillmann's comment.
Aivar, Ma annan Sulle Laigi, et Sa oma nõrgaks jäänud elutunnetamise juures julged vähemalt midagigi vastu rääkida oma eksimuste otsa.
Jah, potensiaal vanemailt on Sul Eestlaslik, looduslik, kuid mida oma ajuga teha oled lasknud ?
Erinevalt Sinust, on minul Õigus oma arvamust, Sulle peale suruda.
Jah, potensiaal vanemailt on Sul Eestlaslik, looduslik, kuid mida oma ajuga teha oled lasknud ?
Erinevalt Sinust, on minul Õigus oma arvamust, Sulle peale suruda.
6 October 2016 00:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I am Margus Meigo
an i approve that message! (as near final, for the sick times history classes)
an i approve that message! (as near final, for the sick times history classes)
5 October 2016 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Man are free for now, to abuse other inmates in this world, that has been turned in to prison for all of many cultures and groups who reinvent them selves or who have been keeping them self here in present or freely chosen form, that has been available
5 October 2016 23:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So yea, man should be called to cure them self, but to fight for them freedom.
Man are even more free then them soul'd in out look what kind of man we allow to be alive among us, this is not a healthy mind who keeps problems alive and by not caring for curing of these that meet up their own kind some day, most likely for sure, some good will meet the mistake of bad, and then, who was at fault if that was left untreated in purpose ?
Man are even more free then them soul'd in out look what kind of man we allow to be alive among us, this is not a healthy mind who keeps problems alive and by not caring for curing of these that meet up their own kind some day, most likely for sure, some good will meet the mistake of bad, and then, who was at fault if that was left untreated in purpose ?
5 October 2016 23:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Is not important NOT TO WANT to be empire ruler, but knowing WHAT KIND to be..
So Charlie how You say.. is it worth to FEEL FOR something that calls for fight for Democracy and say that like greed would be in our hearts.. but what can come out from it.. if these kind of people, who he told humans are, if they Unite in the aim of doing Good... will it be possible, if they not know good?
Should them not first cure them self, before even thinking about serious fight, fix the eyes to see who they fight and mind to understand and heart to feel to the end, proper
Charlie Guvara, my gorilla anarchistic commander, how you think of that?
So Charlie how You say.. is it worth to FEEL FOR something that calls for fight for Democracy and say that like greed would be in our hearts.. but what can come out from it.. if these kind of people, who he told humans are, if they Unite in the aim of doing Good... will it be possible, if they not know good?
Should them not first cure them self, before even thinking about serious fight, fix the eyes to see who they fight and mind to understand and heart to feel to the end, proper
Charlie Guvara, my gorilla anarchistic commander, how you think of that?
5 October 2016 23:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
silma või ette, kätte
5 October 2016 23:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
inimene napilt parem, ja osati osa neist ka siis alles hiljem järgi jõuab, ..
Kuid enese uhkuseks saame ikka öelda, et oli ju ka palju osasi, inimkonnast, kes ammu ilma enne, alguses, juba kohal olid.
Seega eitasu ennast ka ilm pahasti tunda muude loomade ja taimede keskel, kuigi on ka nende hingi selliseid, kes pealeoma sündi suht kiiresti kogu tarkusest, kuidas kasvada ning oma kohast ,koostööliselt aru said,
(kahmates intelligentsust ja tagasihoidlikust toosides, mis looduses kedagi otseselt marru ei aja, kui, siis ainult mõnele otsesele lLooduse vVaenlasele (targale ja automaatsele) oma tagasihoidliku headusega (see taim) võib silma jääda)
Kuid enese uhkuseks saame ikka öelda, et oli ju ka palju osasi, inimkonnast, kes ammu ilma enne, alguses, juba kohal olid.
Seega eitasu ennast ka ilm pahasti tunda muude loomade ja taimede keskel, kuigi on ka nende hingi selliseid, kes pealeoma sündi suht kiiresti kogu tarkusest, kuidas kasvada ning oma kohast ,koostööliselt aru said,
(kahmates intelligentsust ja tagasihoidlikust toosides, mis looduses kedagi otseselt marru ei aja, kui, siis ainult mõnele otsesele lLooduse vVaenlasele (targale ja automaatsele) oma tagasihoidliku headusega (see taim) võib silma jääda)
5 October 2016 23:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ehk sii sbio hybriid tehnoloogia, kus tehnika kratid moneks ajaks on ikka allutatud oigele vaimule, ehk siis tehnik apiisavalt targaks ja enesetadlikuks muutunud, et Jumala vastu ei võitle ega ajutult oma vähematel vendadel ei lase levida hävitades,
5 October 2016 23:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ERR saatest tulnud tuleviku nägija naine ütles aga hoopis, et maapind päris plaju kaevatud neil aegadel, sest liiklus on maa alla viidud, kui suht roheline on, tehnoloogiline on mitmes osas bioloogiline
5 October 2016 23:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ma ütlen kuidas ON, kõige enam ja olulistemates reaalsustes lõppkokkuvõttes, mitte kuidas on isiklik arvamus mis kuulub vaidlemisele oma arust teadjamate poolt kellel muu tunnetus ja faktid teadmiste põhjal
5 October 2016 23:04
Margus Meigo replied to Mařía Teng's comment.
Oih, see vastus läks sutsu pikemaks kui planeeritud, kuid Kui Sul oli küsimus,, miks..
lisaks vel on nalja tegijaid kes ei hooliega oma arusaamist, kui kahjulikud nende teod on, milliseid räigeid kuritegusi ja mass hävitust nende hoolimatu ülbitsemine põhjustas,
Kas saab olla hullemat, kui oma Kodu vastased..
lisaks vel on nalja tegijaid kes ei hooliega oma arusaamist, kui kahjulikud nende teod on, milliseid räigeid kuritegusi ja mass hävitust nende hoolimatu ülbitsemine põhjustas,
Kas saab olla hullemat, kui oma Kodu vastased..
5 October 2016 19:22
Margus Meigo replied to Mařía Teng's comment.
Need "inimesed" kes Sellise maiguga, sellise suunitulusega asju jagavad ja siia ussitavaid kommenteere kirjutavad, nemad võtavad ainult Tõsiselt enda Kodumaa hävitust, mida nad hooksalt teevad,
ja mille nimel, kelle nimel ?
Sõna otseses mõttes mitte millegi nimel, sest see jõud kaob mida nad oma väärvaimus arvavad toetavat, psüholoogilises mõttes aga see muidugi vanemate kompleks, ehk siis need lapsed kellel vanematega probleem asuvad kohe ka riigi ees otsa vastu (või pugejalikult, lipitsejalikult Võimu poolt, analüüsimata kes on võim, kuid enamasti katkiste vanemate suhetega, kompleksides inimesed, kes pole valust üle saanud, ikka oma Kodumaa eesotsa vastu on. Seda muidugi kasutavad võõragendid ja kommunistid, Rooma Impeeriumi järeltulijad ära, kes seda VÄGA hästi teavad ja meie maal ka katkiseid suhteid põhjustavaid programme normaal normiks tegid, ... nad mõtlevad küll pikalt ette, planeerides, need koduma röövijad... rahvast väärastades, kuid mitte nii pikalt kui meie päris Kodumaalised, ise, kes siis elavad armastuses algusest lõpuni kuni uue Alguseni)
ja mille nimel, kelle nimel ?
Sõna otseses mõttes mitte millegi nimel, sest see jõud kaob mida nad oma väärvaimus arvavad toetavat, psüholoogilises mõttes aga see muidugi vanemate kompleks, ehk siis need lapsed kellel vanematega probleem asuvad kohe ka riigi ees otsa vastu (või pugejalikult, lipitsejalikult Võimu poolt, analüüsimata kes on võim, kuid enamasti katkiste vanemate suhetega, kompleksides inimesed, kes pole valust üle saanud, ikka oma Kodumaa eesotsa vastu on. Seda muidugi kasutavad võõragendid ja kommunistid, Rooma Impeeriumi järeltulijad ära, kes seda VÄGA hästi teavad ja meie maal ka katkiseid suhteid põhjustavaid programme normaal normiks tegid, ... nad mõtlevad küll pikalt ette, planeerides, need koduma röövijad... rahvast väärastades, kuid mitte nii pikalt kui meie päris Kodumaalised, ise, kes siis elavad armastuses algusest lõpuni kuni uue Alguseni)
5 October 2016 19:20
Margus Meigo replied to Eller Joosep's comment.
aga tunub, et ei ole, seega jah, "EI tohi"
5 October 2016 19:03
Margus Meigo replied to Eller Joosep's comment.
Muidugi ei ole mõtet avaldada arvamust, kui see inimeste keskmist arusaama ja arukust alandab,
Ja kuna see ei lisa inimestele midagi juurde mõtlemisaineks, pigem pidurdab (lisaks sellele, et see on Vale) siis ELEMENTAARNE et ei tohi sellist "arvamust" avaldada, kui Sa just kodumaa vastane ole...
Ja kuna see ei lisa inimestele midagi juurde mõtlemisaineks, pigem pidurdab (lisaks sellele, et see on Vale) siis ELEMENTAARNE et ei tohi sellist "arvamust" avaldada, kui Sa just kodumaa vastane ole...
5 October 2016 19:02
Margus Meigo replied to Jaanus Tamm's comment.
Jaanus Tamm Ei nad kasutasid loomuliku intelligentsi
5 October 2016 19:01
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Lillmann's comment.
Ja kui ol ienne planeeritud, siis see NORMAALNE ja ÕIGE ja AUS tegu, mida PIDI tegema valitsus ja inimesed kes inimestest hoolivad.
Sellist asja nagu riigi juhtimist ei saa reaalses moistusega elukohas jätta pillapalla juhuse hoolde, vaid need kes on teada kes on targemad ja vajalikumad Eesti poolele, need tuleb eelkõige etteotsa säilitada, ja kyll me teame kudias selgitada kes on
Sellist asja nagu riigi juhtimist ei saa reaalses moistusega elukohas jätta pillapalla juhuse hoolde, vaid need kes on teada kes on targemad ja vajalikumad Eesti poolele, need tuleb eelkõige etteotsa säilitada, ja kyll me teame kudias selgitada kes on
4 October 2016 23:25
Margus Meigo replied to Metsküla Kalju's comment.
hea arusaam tohutust
4 October 2016 23:24
Margus Meigo replied to Aintrais Parte's comment.
Peaasi, et Sa päriselt peast põruma pole hakanud ja ka koos punaste koertega meie kodumaa aluspinda uuristama hakanud, nagu suur kari neid netis praegu jooksevad, osad palgaliselt, suurem osa aga haigusest ja pahast vaimust nakatanuna (ja ajupesust)
4 October 2016 20:52
Margus Meigo replied to Aintrais Parte's comment.
Seda ikka saame aru, et tegu on punaste poolt võltsitud propakandadga?
Piisab ainult PÄRISELT sinna lehele minna ja siis näha kohe, et tegu oli võltsinguga selle kuupäeva osas.
Ja eelkõige, see kuupäv ei tähendamidagi... sellel lehel, loeb, kas ja mis PÄRISELT lehes enne üleval oli.
Kuid see jah, ilmselge disain
Piisab ainult PÄRISELT sinna lehele minna ja siis näha kohe, et tegu oli võltsinguga selle kuupäeva osas.
Ja eelkõige, see kuupäv ei tähendamidagi... sellel lehel, loeb, kas ja mis PÄRISELT lehes enne üleval oli.
Kuid see jah, ilmselge disain
4 October 2016 20:49
Margus Meigo replied to Metsküla Kalju's comment.
Demokraatia praegusena on väga vabaduse vastane, sest kurjusel lubatakse elus olla ja valitsuses oleva headuse vastu ka haukuda, ilma igasuguse regulatsioonita, lubatakse neil riigi vundamenti uuristada ja lapsi mürgitada, et neist värdinimesed kasvaks
4 October 2016 20:47
Margus Meigo replied to Siim Alak's comment.
kutid jah, muutsid kuupäeva jutilt mis suvaliselt lehelt leidsid ja nimetasid selle "andmebaasiks" ja tõestuseks :D
4 October 2016 20:45
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Lillmann's comment.
Mis homo ila Sa ajad ?
Kui Sa aru ei saa, et see Eesti jaoks üks viimase sajandi suurimaid kingitusi on, mis juhtus, siis kurb Sinu laste osas, et selliste arusaamade vangis üles kasvama peavad koos sinusuguse punaste poleeritud kodumaatus, juurteta olevus
Kui Sa aru ei saa, et see Eesti jaoks üks viimase sajandi suurimaid kingitusi on, mis juhtus, siis kurb Sinu laste osas, et selliste arusaamade vangis üles kasvama peavad koos sinusuguse punaste poleeritud kodumaatus, juurteta olevus
4 October 2016 20:45
Margus Meigo replied to Guido Kapp's comment.
Õiged sõnad,
to kodumaa vastane muutis kuupäeva ära, et siis petu muljet jätta: http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Presidents.htm
03.10.16 on tegelikult
sellepärast nad ka täis lehte koos arvuti kuupäeva või pildi elektroonilise infoga ei avalikustanud, sest tegu lameda pettusega
to kodumaa vastane muutis kuupäeva ära, et siis petu muljet jätta: http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Presidents.htm
03.10.16 on tegelikult
sellepärast nad ka täis lehte koos arvuti kuupäeva või pildi elektroonilise infoga ei avalikustanud, sest tegu lameda pettusega
http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Presidents.htm
4 October 2016 20:42
Margus Meigo replied to Henri Pilt's comment.
Vaimu ilm teab ammu asju..
4 October 2016 20:40
Margus Meigo replied to Eller Joosep's comment.
mis lame jutt see on?
Loomulikult on VÄGA Suur vahe, ära ole naiivselt lootusetu pessimist
Loomulikult on VÄGA Suur vahe, ära ole naiivselt lootusetu pessimist
4 October 2016 20:40
Margus Meigo replied to Jarmo Sits's comment.
Tegelikult on Last Update: 03.10.16
http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Presidents.htm
Pätt kes seda linki jagas riigivastase töötajana, arvas, et jube kjaval omaarust
http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Presidents.htm
Pätt kes seda linki jagas riigivastase töötajana, arvas, et jube kjaval omaarust
http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Presidents.htm
4 October 2016 20:38
Margus Meigo replied to Jaanus Tamm's comment.
need petturid kes selle lehega propakandat ajavad, unustasid, et teised inimesed oskavad ka googlit kasutada nende pettuse lihtsaks paljastuseks:
http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Current-Women-Leaders.htm
http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Presidents.htm
http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Current-Women-Leaders.htm
http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Presidents.htm
http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Current-Women-Leaders.htm
4 October 2016 20:15
Margus Meigo commented on Onu Rants's photo.
ja siin on teine link millega siin prunased propakanda agendid manipuleerisid::
või, et "rahvusvahelisse andmebaasis" ... haiged inimsuse vastased rooma riista imejad
tulevad siin oma kodumaa vastu sellist soppa keerutama, need nimed märgime üles kõik , ega unsuta!
http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Current-Women-Leaders.htm
http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Presidents.htm
või, et "rahvusvahelisse andmebaasis" ... haiged inimsuse vastased rooma riista imejad
tulevad siin oma kodumaa vastu sellist soppa keerutama, need nimed märgime üles kõik , ega unsuta!
http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Current-Women-Leaders.htm
http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Presidents.htm
4 October 2016 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on Onu Rants's photo.
Kuna tegu on kommunistide (ja tulnukate, Eesti ja inimeste vastase mass laimu ja sopa kampaaniaga, siis sellisedid poolikuid võlts lehti svõib palju kohata x tõlgendustega, ja nagu punastele asjakohane kes pettusega tegelevad, ei julge nad kohe päris linki üles panna ega kogu lehe pilti, et näeks mis päeval ta selle tegi
siin on tegelik pilt sellelt lehelt
siin on tegelik pilt sellelt lehelt
4 October 2016 20:10
Margus Meigo replied to Janek Janek's comment.
cvaaat kus ikka jaapanis on julged esileedid.. :
http://kaevur.com/story.php?title=jaapani-tulevane-esileedi-on-ufoga-veenusel-kaeinud
http://kaevur.com/story.php?title=jaapani-tulevane-esileedi-on-ufoga-veenusel-kaeinud
http://kaevur.com/story.php?title=jaapani-tulevane-esileedi-on-ufoga-veenusel-kaeinud
4 October 2016 09:39
Margus Meigo replied to Janek Janek's comment.
Presidendi abikaasa?
Esi härra-s-mees
"In Scotland, the person occupying this position is known as, "The First Lad'dy."
https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-190267,00.html
Esi härra-s-mees
"In Scotland, the person occupying this position is known as, "The First Lad'dy."
https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-190267,00.html
https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-190267,00.html
4 October 2016 09:39
Margus Meigo replied to Ahto Voip's comment.
palun pane selline lame ilge mula suhu tagasi,
sööd ka selle kolbaga v?
sööd ka selle kolbaga v?
4 October 2016 09:30
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Haa, we had similar ones in here, they good ones
4 October 2016 09:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
4 October 2016 09:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Do you need permission to record a conversation?
Federal law permits recording telephone calls and in-person conversations with the consent of at least one of the parties. See 18 U.S.C. 2511(2)(d). This is called a "one-party consent" law. Under a one-party consent law, you can record a phone call or conversation so long as you are a party to the conversation."
www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/recording-phone-calls-and-conversations
Federal law permits recording telephone calls and in-person conversations with the consent of at least one of the parties. See 18 U.S.C. 2511(2)(d). This is called a "one-party consent" law. Under a one-party consent law, you can record a phone call or conversation so long as you are a party to the conversation."
www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/recording-phone-calls-and-conversations
4 October 2016 08:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see on ainult OSATI sellele mõeldud kes arvab see temale on
4 October 2016 08:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(hallo feministeerium)
4 October 2016 07:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nagu Naine
4 October 2016 07:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nii lihtnekoeline ja piisav see enamus
4 October 2016 07:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Minuti 7 alguses oli veel eriti huvitavalt kuulda..
4 October 2016 07:12
Margus Meigo commented on Inge Kelp's photo.
Imeõrnad ja ilusad!
4 October 2016 06:18
Margus Meigo replied to Aigar Põder's comment.
või temokraatia püünis, demokraatia terror, demokraatia must maagia VÕI mis moodi seda hypnootilist , täielikult alluva ja austava hüpnoosi alla panev, egregori või mone elus vaimu ja tehnoloogia mõjul toimiv pool vägivaldne moodustist peaks kutsumagi nii et oleks selge, kuid lühike ja samas mitte meeldiv, andmaks aimu asja olemusest nii lapsele kui vanale, mis vangistus skeemiga, kus nuga kõripeal hoitakse, tegu on?
Plaaningi reisi Korea privaatsema poole peale, uurin mis soovitusi nemad selle haiguse lahendamiseks pakuksid
Plaaningi reisi Korea privaatsema poole peale, uurin mis soovitusi nemad selle haiguse lahendamiseks pakuksid
4 October 2016 05:58
Margus Meigo replied to Aigar Põder's comment.
Oi, vabandust, ma alguses mõtlesin, lugedes, et sa nagu ainuõigena toetaksid lõppude lõpus demokraatia lõksu
4 October 2016 05:54
Margus Meigo replied to Aigar Põder's comment.
See haiglane kommunistide ja rooma impeeriumi sohilaps Demokraatia tuleb nii kenasti ja ilusti alla unustusse lasta meie meeltest kui võimalik, kui kaua me sellist ringmängulist tralletamist veel kannatame ?
4 October 2016 05:52
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Pärtel's comment.
Sa peaksid minuga nõus olema, sest tema eksis
(nii palju , kohe alguses, et ei hakanud tema kommentaarigi lõpuni lugeda, kuna nii valesti nii suurelt kirjutaja, arvatvasti midagi eluväärtuslikku juurde ei lisa, prognoosi põhjal)
(nii palju , kohe alguses, et ei hakanud tema kommentaarigi lõpuni lugeda, kuna nii valesti nii suurelt kirjutaja, arvatvasti midagi eluväärtuslikku juurde ei lisa, prognoosi põhjal)
4 October 2016 05:50
Margus Meigo replied to Aigar Põder's comment.
Kas sa tegid nagu haiget nalja või? Helme ja Allar Jõks?
Kujuta ette kui raske oleks Jõksil tõsiselt võtta oma targa töö kõrvalt sellist jorutamist ja mis moodi peaks Helme Hillariga hakkama saama, või puutiniga ??
Kujuta ette kui raske oleks Jõksil tõsiselt võtta oma targa töö kõrvalt sellist jorutamist ja mis moodi peaks Helme Hillariga hakkama saama, või puutiniga ??
4 October 2016 05:49
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Sepping's comment.
Peeter, see on julge prognoos, et nii võib arvutada ja seekord jällegi, nii on , et tõsi see on ka sellel korral
4 October 2016 05:48
Margus Meigo replied to Lauri Läänsoo's comment.
Lari kas sa oled miskit soodat söönud kogematta kõhku korrashoidmiseks liiga palju või ?
Raha tuleb peale maksta, 20 tonni kingituseks miinimum, neile kes selle algatuse kiiresti tegid ja kes korralikult Wiki lehtesi on kiirkorras uuendanud ja muid korralike väljaandeid.
Kujutad ette, kui mingid soperdised selle lehe teinud oleks ?
Ma sulle ehitan siin vangi, sellise hooletu plära eest tuleb vastu kaalikat anda
Raha tuleb peale maksta, 20 tonni kingituseks miinimum, neile kes selle algatuse kiiresti tegid ja kes korralikult Wiki lehtesi on kiirkorras uuendanud ja muid korralike väljaandeid.
Kujutad ette, kui mingid soperdised selle lehe teinud oleks ?
Ma sulle ehitan siin vangi, sellise hooletu plära eest tuleb vastu kaalikat anda
4 October 2016 05:41
Margus Meigo replied to Hela Hellenurm's comment.
See on tõsi.
Äärepealt oleks ju Allar Jõks pidanud seda juhtima hakkama, kuid temal polnud see üldse reaalselt plaanis ju, mäletad kui ta meriga kohtus ?
Äärepealt oleks ju Allar Jõks pidanud seda juhtima hakkama, kuid temal polnud see üldse reaalselt plaanis ju, mäletad kui ta meriga kohtus ?
4 October 2016 05:38
Margus Meigo replied to Jaanek Juurik's comment.
Sa 13ne aastase kasvatamatu plika teadvusega ole hea pane oma konto kinni!
4 October 2016 05:37
Margus Meigo replied to Enrico Sui's comment.
Enrico, sellise trolli kommentaari peale ma Sulle ei hakka isegi vastama, lugedes Su pika vestlust, sest see tundus, nagu oleks kriitika maiguga olnud ja sitta ma ei loe
4 October 2016 05:36
Margus Meigo replied to Jaanek Juurik's comment.
Sellise nimega, mida Sa siin vahid?
4 October 2016 05:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(see oli iroonia, kusma endast üldse ei räägi)
4 October 2016 05:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Veidraid inimesi on ikka internetis
4 October 2016 05:34
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's photo.
Igast imelikke hakkame netiOtsa tirima
http://vastased.blogspot.com/2016/10/tarmo-ilusa-postituse-peale-kohima.html
http://vastased.blogspot.com/2016/10/tarmo-ilusa-postituse-peale-kohima.html
http://vastased.blogspot.com/2016/10/tarmo-ilusa-postituse-peale-kohima.html
4 October 2016 05:33
Margus Meigo replied to Ivo Ratas's comment.
Miks sa selliseis sonu eraldi kasutad siin kommina, vasta otse inimesele, muidu jääb kommentaarides näha, ja siis ebailus, kui nii kena naisega seotud teema all, mingi inimene lihtsalt ütleb ebailusasti kellegile, umbes nagu kama plek oleks maalil peale köhimist
4 October 2016 05:29
Margus Meigo replied to Hille Kommel's comment.
Group: Ellujäämine = lahkumine Euroliidust
Häbiväärsed mehe nime kandvad kadunud hinged need kes nii ilmselgest Looja kingitusest ka aru ei julge saada oma mehelikus greeka-roomaliku (pool homolikus) arguses4 October 2016 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to Hille Kommel's comment.
Group: Ellujäämine = lahkumine Euroliidust
Osad mehed on isegi nii raisanud oma ema püüdlused ja valu, neid siia ilma tuues, et lausa asuvad endast mitu latti targema ja väga eduka naise kallal sõna võtma, kes riigi päästmise kõrvalt ka 4 last jõudnud Kodumaaliselt üles kasvatada
muidugi nimede osas kahju aga..no.. armastuse enda asi4 October 2016 00:38
Margus Meigo replied to Vahur Armastuse Kahur's comment.
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Ime, et nad jõksi seda juttu rääkima ei kutsunud.,
Muidugi kuulata Eesti Kodumaa osas arvamusi ja "arusaami" kanalist mis on loodud vene erivägede poolt , meie riigi, kultuuri ja rahva hävitamiseks )(see osa, kus nad sügavaid eesti asju vahele panevad, käib hävitusprogrammiga kaasas, kui elementaarne)4 October 2016 00:33
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Liiv's comment.
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Õnneks on Kersti targem vajaduste arusaamise osas, kui enamuste arusaamade kogum4 October 2016 00:32
Margus Meigo replied to Mati Alasi's comment.
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kõikide kodumaa vastaste nimed ka kes Kersti kallal irisevad4 October 2016 00:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Tubli, vähemalt on inimesel reaalne arvamus
Kuid laiendad veel, suts miks ?4 October 2016 00:18
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Argel's comment.
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Et SÜVA eesti, ehk, siis Eesti südame ja Reaalse Eestiga tegelevad inimesed, nagu kes suudavad 500 aastat ette mõelda mitte takerduda ajutistesse ajupesu programmidesse mida Tallina TV ja teised KGB ja muud mustamaagia vaimu de kummardajad organisatsioonid siin ohtralt meie meediasse kallavad ja stabiilselt hoiavad, nii kometaaride kui pseudo arvamuste osas.
Nagu minigd lambi vennad kes pole poliitika ega eesti eluga kursis, jahuvad : "..ei tea .. et kes see Kersti on..."
plaa plaa..
ei tea?
Ehk siis peaks mulgu kinni hoidma, mitte teisi teavitama oma teadmatusest ... inimene kes teda ei tea, arvab, et saab adekvaatselt üldse midagi kritiseerida?
Ja interneti kaustada ei oska, et järelpärimist teha ja raamatukokku minna, lugeda, uurida mis naine on.. kuulata eesti vanima poliitsaate arhiive kukuraadiost või mida iganes..... vikerraadios... kui "mõtlev inimene " olla4 October 2016 00:16
Margus Meigo replied to Eve Urvaste's comment.
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Endal Sul on viisnurkadega ameerika lipp, punaseltaustal, veel nende vana lipp profiili taustaks ja tuled siin rääkima?
Ikka oled mõelnud, miks just pentagrammid selle lipule valiti? ... ja mis need ameerika põlised väärtused on mida Sa rohkem armastad ku iKodumaad?
propakanda agentidel saab siin varsti põli otsa, iga roju oma koju!4 October 2016 00:11
Margus Meigo replied to Eve Urvaste's comment.
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ja kõige selle juures, ometigi ta suudab Eestist ilusamaid sõnu rääkida kui teie siin kokku ,vähem selle riigi ja siinsete ametnike ja rahva vastu tatti ja solvanguid pritsida kui keegi teine ja samas jäädes mõistuse piires otsekoheselt viisakaks.
Tema Eesti armastuse skaala on ikka hoopis teises Tasemes, võrreldes nendega kes siin oma kodumaa suunas irisevad "kas sellist eestist..", olles ise isegi mitte midagi tienud kodumaajaoks mida võrrelda saaks oluliselt..4 October 2016 00:09
Margus Meigo commented on Kuusik Silver's post.
Ma loodan, et teil on suur isu ka tulevikus, sest on palju sõnu mida siis vaja sööma hakata
3 October 2016 23:58
Margus Meigo commented on Kuusik Silver's post.
Sellist Kingitust ja Jumala õnnistust, ei oska öeldagi, kas Terve Eesti ära teeninud ongi,
Küll see Maailm on ikka lahke, andestav ja imeliselt lootustandev.
... riik äraandmise äärelt hoopis soojadesse kätesse. Veel soojemad käed kui Vuntsil
Küll see Maailm on ikka lahke, andestav ja imeliselt lootustandev.
... riik äraandmise äärelt hoopis soojadesse kätesse. Veel soojemad käed kui Vuntsil
3 October 2016 23:45
Margus Meigo replied to Eve Urvaste's comment.
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(alludes Pühale Vaimule aka Naisele)3 October 2016 23:39
Margus Meigo replied to Eve Urvaste's comment.
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et kuningriigi osas oleks mõeldav, sest kuningad saavad juhtida Jumala Vaimuga3 October 2016 23:39
Margus Meigo replied to Eve Urvaste's comment.
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seda ka jah teoorias, aga suts teise struktuuri ja positsiooni osas.
Reaalselt ikkagi on praegu parim, kes oelks võinud arvata, et saab midagi veel ideaalsemat kingitust olla eestile kui Vunts?3 October 2016 23:32
Margus Meigo commented on Heiki Herman Soome's post.
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Öelge siis palun need nimed, kes teie arvates oled sobinud tõsiselt ja siis need kes potensiaalselt oleks saanud valituks ausate valimistega?
Sooviks sutsu muiata3 October 2016 23:03
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Argel's comment.
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see ka kallase ja Viimase Erakonna ja paljude teiste ammune idee,
populistid muidugi loodavad, et siis saavad rahvast lollitades omasi hoida Eesti likvideerimiseks pukis...
aga vaat kus läks.. süva Eesti suunaline hoopis sattus meile siia pukiotsa, kelle pere vist õnneks ka usaldusväärses ametis3 October 2016 23:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Riigikogu kantselei juurde moodustatud arenguseire nõukoda valis nõukoja esimeheks Euroopa Kontrollikoja liikme Kersti Kaljulaidi.
Viieliikmelisse arenguseire nõukotta kuuluvad veel Tallinna tehnikaülikooli rektor Jaak Aaviksoo, Eesti kaubandus-tööstuskoja peadirektor Mait Palts, Eesti pangaliidu juhatuse esimees Priit Perens ning Eesti teaduste akadeemia president Tarmo Soomere.
Arenguseire nõukoda arutas oma esimesel koosolekul arenguseire keskuse juhataja konkursi tingimusi.
Nõukoja ülesanne on kinnitada arenguseire tegevuskava ja hinnata selle täitmist, teha ettepanekuid arenguseire põhisuundade valikuks ning anda hinnanguid valminud seiretele ja analüüsidele.
Riigikogu võttis 14. juunil vastu arenguseire seaduse, mille alusel luuakse arenguseire läbiviimiseks riigikogu kantselei juurde arenguseire keskus, mille ülesannne on koostada ühiskonna pikaajaliste arengute analüüse, arengustsenaariume ning jälgida nende elluviimist.
http://uudised.err.ee/v/eesti/fa2ce90e-97a9-468e-a395-e084a5ecfaa4/arenguseire-noukoja-esimeheks-valiti-kersti-kaljulaid
Viieliikmelisse arenguseire nõukotta kuuluvad veel Tallinna tehnikaülikooli rektor Jaak Aaviksoo, Eesti kaubandus-tööstuskoja peadirektor Mait Palts, Eesti pangaliidu juhatuse esimees Priit Perens ning Eesti teaduste akadeemia president Tarmo Soomere.
Arenguseire nõukoda arutas oma esimesel koosolekul arenguseire keskuse juhataja konkursi tingimusi.
Nõukoja ülesanne on kinnitada arenguseire tegevuskava ja hinnata selle täitmist, teha ettepanekuid arenguseire põhisuundade valikuks ning anda hinnanguid valminud seiretele ja analüüsidele.
Riigikogu võttis 14. juunil vastu arenguseire seaduse, mille alusel luuakse arenguseire läbiviimiseks riigikogu kantselei juurde arenguseire keskus, mille ülesannne on koostada ühiskonna pikaajaliste arengute analüüse, arengustsenaariume ning jälgida nende elluviimist.
http://uudised.err.ee/v/eesti/fa2ce90e-97a9-468e-a395-e084a5ecfaa4/arenguseire-noukoja-esimeheks-valiti-kersti-kaljulaid
http://uudised.err.ee/v/eesti/fa2ce90e-97a9-468e-a395-e084a5ecfaa4/arenguseire-noukoja-esimeheks-valiti-kersti-kaljulaid
3 October 2016 16:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kommentaarid avanevad, kui ei artikkel..
1 October 2016 19:02
Margus Meigo commented on Mikk Sarv's post.
Juhuks kui kellegilteisel ka link ei avane, siis siin kommentaaride ja artikli link: http://www.ohtuleht.ee/762351/kommentaarid
Selline link tuleb mul peale vajutades: http://m.ohtuleht.ee/error.html?aspxerrorpath=/762351/kas-toesti-maa-mis-kannab-maarjamaa-nime-tahab-maailmas-kuulsaks-saada-neitsi-maarja-tapmise-kaudu "
Täpselt sama juhtub ku ivajutada ohtulehe linki mis siin asub: http://www.eestikirik.ee/kas-toesti-maa-mis-kannab-maarjamaa-nime-tahab-maailmas-kuulsaks-saada-neitsi-maarja-tapmise-kaudu/
Selline link tuleb mul peale vajutades: http://m.ohtuleht.ee/error.html?aspxerrorpath=/762351/kas-toesti-maa-mis-kannab-maarjamaa-nime-tahab-maailmas-kuulsaks-saada-neitsi-maarja-tapmise-kaudu "
Täpselt sama juhtub ku ivajutada ohtulehe linki mis siin asub: http://www.eestikirik.ee/kas-toesti-maa-mis-kannab-maarjamaa-nime-tahab-maailmas-kuulsaks-saada-neitsi-maarja-tapmise-kaudu/
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/762351/kommentaarid
1 October 2016 19:01
Margus Meigo commented on Mikk Sarv's post.
Vaevalt, et meie maalased seda tahavad
1 October 2016 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on Aintrais Parte's post.
Show some skills : ))
1 October 2016 17:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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+ veel nende oma vaimsed tarkused ja nõksud
suurim viga mida saab inimene teha on neegrit alahinnata, veelgisuurem ohtlikus on muidugi kui seda Araablasega teha...1 October 2016 15:53
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
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Kui te vaid teaksite, KUI spetsid need ahmeedid jms, on emotsioonide energiaid, su mõtteid ja käitumisi analüüsima, väga adekvaatselt ja kiirelt, sügavalt.
Suur hul siinseid praegu on ka omamoodi vaimses luures, kaardistamaks eiri maa kultuure ja rhvaid uuesti, enne päiris lainet.
Infot antakse oma keskustele ja võrkudele tagasi.. mida nende oma valitsuste taguse valitsuse poolt skännitakse, arhalise n.liidu luure võrgustiku kombel1 October 2016 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
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Jumalausk ikka tegeleb Eesti rahava olemasolu säilitamisega, ilma usuta poleks meid ammu olemas, ja need on otsesed Jumala teod, mis meid vabaduses hoidnud, sest piisaval hulgal, ehk pea enamus vanast Eesti rahvas on usklik olnud, juba ammu ka enne kirikuid.
paganluse müüdi võivad inimesed endale sinna panna samblaga kus päike ei paista.
Kes vähegi shamanismi ja sügva vaimu asjadega tegelenud, ise, isiklikult, TEAB selle maa pühadust ja Erilisust, sellistes tasemetes, et kui ainult Eestlased omavahel tööle saada samamoodi nagu juudid, siis oleksime Jumala valitud ametlikust rahvast palju rohkem esirinnas võimalustega maailma muuta..
Eesti peaks olema tuntud enamustele inimestele maailmas, kahjuks aga enamus suurpoliitikuid ja äritegelasigi ei tea, selle maa olemasolust ja mkes iganes neile esimesena räägib midagi me vastu ,see neile ka meelde jääb1 October 2016 15:49
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
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Ning kes ennast sellega häbistada soovib, et Kaljulaidu "tundmatuks, suvaliseks, ädapäraseks" nimetada, siis see on ainult sulaselge SUUR SOLVANG inimese ENDA pihta, sest kelle vähegi haridust ja ajusi on, ning PÄRIS Eesti asjadega on kursis hoidnud ajaloost kuni tip intellektuaalideni, ning kes infot kogub väljastpoolt Tallinna Tvd ja õhtulehte..
või kes muidu kultuurne inimene, viitsib enne googeldada kui suud avada, siis see inimene rahuloluga teab, et see on suurimaid kingitusi mida me riik saada võis, Veel parem kui Siim isegi.
Mõtle, meil oleks peaaegu Jõks (ADVOGAAT!! ehk mitte tõest ja moraalist hoolija vaid suu ja faktidega manipuleeria tipp spets) või teab kes saanud riigi eesotsa, ehk riik oleks napilt läinud Eestlase käest potensiaalselt ära ja nüüd niii tipuga uuesti seotud.1 October 2016 15:46
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
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Nu see ainult lisab kergendustunnet ja utgevat usaldavust juurde,
et pole mingi punaste ega liberaalide poolt kontrollitud suvaline teoreetik, vaid reaalselt sügavaimate eesti asjadega tegelvad inimesed.
Mere ajal noortest, nullist üles ehitatud asutus on väga tubli1 October 2016 15:42
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
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Nu aga positiivses mõttes, põlevad kiiresti,
väga kahju muidugi nedest kes epitsentri äärele jäävad.
On tegelikult palju vähem valu tekitavaid ja effektiivsemaid bioloogilisi relvi, ei tea miks nii brutaalsed ollakse, effekti jaoks vist1 October 2016 15:37
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
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Nu kaboid lasid maha kui kaardimängus petsid,
ega kui poisid soovivad meeste maailma proovida, ei saa seda väga paanikana võtta.
On maid kus 12 aastased teisi tihti maha võtavad1 October 2016 15:35
Margus Meigo commented on Reimo Sillamaa's post.
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Karmid sõnad.
Muidugi juudid , päris juudid need kes aitavad tegelikku puhtust hoida, kuid paraleel süsteemi osas mida teeb tuleb toetada ja auga vastu võtta.
See ikkagi otsene kuningriik mis kunagi lagastati kuni demokraatiani välja, tore näha, et keegi rpoovib inimlikust jalule seada.
Kuid eks muresi ole muidugi selles osas, et milliste ainete inimesi kuidas taga aetakse.
Kui rahvast aitavate ainete omajaid samamoodi rünnatakse on muidugi asjal ainult lühiajalist kasu ja siis likvideerib kogu potensiaali..1 October 2016 15:29
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
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Miks nii vähe,
häbiväärne1 October 2016 15:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1 October 2016 15:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Church's current position, the Church of Scientology in 2005 stated:
The Church of Scientology does not dictate sexual preferences. Scientology is a practical method of improving conditions in life and works to increase a person's abilities, give higher IQ and better reaction time, greater ability to solve his problems in life – things of this nature."
// aga julgesid ikkagi veel uuesti puhtalt selle lisada:
An official Scientology website states, "The second dynamic is the urge toward existence as a future generation. It has two compartments: sex; and the family unit, including the rearing of children. A culture will go by the boards if its basic building block, the family, is removed as a valid building block. So one can be fairly sure that he who destroys marriage destroys the civilization."
The Church of Scientology does not dictate sexual preferences. Scientology is a practical method of improving conditions in life and works to increase a person's abilities, give higher IQ and better reaction time, greater ability to solve his problems in life – things of this nature."
// aga julgesid ikkagi veel uuesti puhtalt selle lisada:
An official Scientology website states, "The second dynamic is the urge toward existence as a future generation. It has two compartments: sex; and the family unit, including the rearing of children. A culture will go by the boards if its basic building block, the family, is removed as a valid building block. So one can be fairly sure that he who destroys marriage destroys the civilization."
1 October 2016 14:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu näed, see vana ammu juba ette ära mõelnud, samad arusaamad mida siinamil mõistma hakatakse.
"Homosexuals don't practice love; 1.1s can't. Their relationships consist of: 1) brief, sordid and impersonal meetings or 2) longer arrangements punctuated by dramatic tirades, discords, jealousies and frequent infidelity. It could hardly be otherwise since the tone is made up of suspicion and hate, producing a darling sweetness interspersed with petty peevishness. Their "love" turns to deep contempt eventually."
From, Ruth Minshull, How To Choose Your People
Minshull described the "gentle-mannered homosexual" as a classic example of the "subversive" 1.1 personality, commenting that they "may be fearful, sympathetic, propitiative, griefy or apathetic. Occasionally they manage an ineffectual tantrum." Minshull claimed they were social misfits
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There is some evidence that Hubbard's Dianetics movement sought to use Dianetics to "cure" homosexuality. In January 1951, the Hubbard Dianetic Research Foundation of Elizabeth, NJ published Dianetic Processing: A Brief Survey of Research Projects and Preliminary Results, a booklet providing the results of psychometric tests conducted on 88 people undergoing Dianetics therapy. It presents case histories and a number of X-ray plates to support claims that Dianetics had cured "aberrations" including bipolar disorder, asthma, arthritis, colitis, and "overt homosexuality," and that after Dianetic processing, test subjects experienced significantly increased scores on a standardized IQ test.[8]
In Hubbard's 1951 book Handbook for Preclears, he set out instructions for Dianeticists to "cure" homosexuality. After claiming that the cause of homosexuality was a fixation on a dominant parent of the opposite sex, he advised, "Break this life continuum concept by running sympathy and grief for the dominant parent and then run off the desires to be an effect and their failures and the homosexual is rehabilitated."[4]
Hubbard urged society to tackle the issue of "sexual perversion" (including homosexuality), calling it "of vital importance, if one wishes to stop immorality, and the abuse of children." In Science of Survival, he called for drastic action to be taken against sexual perverts, whom he rated as "1.1 individuals":
Such people should be taken from the society as rapidly as possible and uniformly institutionalized; for here is the level of the contagion of immorality, and the destruction of ethics; here is the fodder which secret police organizations use for their filthy operations. One of the most effective measures of security that a nation threatened by war could take would be rounding up and placing in a cantonment, away from society, any 1.1 individual who might be connected with government, the military, or essential industry; since here are people who, regardless of any record of their family's loyalty, are potential traitors, the very mode of operation of their insanity being betrayal. In this level is the slime of society, the sex criminals, the political subversives, the people whose apparently rational activities are yet but the devious writhings of secret hate.
"Homosexuals don't practice love; 1.1s can't. Their relationships consist of: 1) brief, sordid and impersonal meetings or 2) longer arrangements punctuated by dramatic tirades, discords, jealousies and frequent infidelity. It could hardly be otherwise since the tone is made up of suspicion and hate, producing a darling sweetness interspersed with petty peevishness. Their "love" turns to deep contempt eventually."
From, Ruth Minshull, How To Choose Your People
Minshull described the "gentle-mannered homosexual" as a classic example of the "subversive" 1.1 personality, commenting that they "may be fearful, sympathetic, propitiative, griefy or apathetic. Occasionally they manage an ineffectual tantrum." Minshull claimed they were social misfits
--
There is some evidence that Hubbard's Dianetics movement sought to use Dianetics to "cure" homosexuality. In January 1951, the Hubbard Dianetic Research Foundation of Elizabeth, NJ published Dianetic Processing: A Brief Survey of Research Projects and Preliminary Results, a booklet providing the results of psychometric tests conducted on 88 people undergoing Dianetics therapy. It presents case histories and a number of X-ray plates to support claims that Dianetics had cured "aberrations" including bipolar disorder, asthma, arthritis, colitis, and "overt homosexuality," and that after Dianetic processing, test subjects experienced significantly increased scores on a standardized IQ test.[8]
In Hubbard's 1951 book Handbook for Preclears, he set out instructions for Dianeticists to "cure" homosexuality. After claiming that the cause of homosexuality was a fixation on a dominant parent of the opposite sex, he advised, "Break this life continuum concept by running sympathy and grief for the dominant parent and then run off the desires to be an effect and their failures and the homosexual is rehabilitated."[4]
Hubbard urged society to tackle the issue of "sexual perversion" (including homosexuality), calling it "of vital importance, if one wishes to stop immorality, and the abuse of children." In Science of Survival, he called for drastic action to be taken against sexual perverts, whom he rated as "1.1 individuals":
Such people should be taken from the society as rapidly as possible and uniformly institutionalized; for here is the level of the contagion of immorality, and the destruction of ethics; here is the fodder which secret police organizations use for their filthy operations. One of the most effective measures of security that a nation threatened by war could take would be rounding up and placing in a cantonment, away from society, any 1.1 individual who might be connected with government, the military, or essential industry; since here are people who, regardless of any record of their family's loyalty, are potential traitors, the very mode of operation of their insanity being betrayal. In this level is the slime of society, the sex criminals, the political subversives, the people whose apparently rational activities are yet but the devious writhings of secret hate.
1 October 2016 14:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
With ideology like that, no wonder they get a lot of support from normal people.
"The sexual pervert (and by this term Dianetics, to be brief, includes any and all forms of deviation in Dynamic II [i.e. sexuality] such as homosexuality, lesbianism, sexual sadism, etc., and all down the catalog of Ellis and Krafft-Ebing) is actually quite ill physically...he is very far from culpable for his condition, but he is also far from normal and extremely dangerous to society..."
Hubbard further defined perversion in his 1951 book Science of Survival: Prediction of Human Behavior, where he introduced the concept of the "tone scale", a means of classifying individuals and human behavior on a chart running from +40 (the most beneficial) to -40 (the least beneficial). Sexual perversion, a category in which he included homosexuality, was termed "covert hostility" and given a score of 1.1, "the level of the pervert, the hypocrite, the turncoat, ...the subversive." He considered such people to be "skulking coward[s] who yet contain enough perfidious energy to strike back, but not enough courage ever to give warning."[2]
He characterized "promiscuity, perversion, sadism, and irregular practices" as well as "free love, easy marriage and quick divorce" as being undesirable activities, "since it is non-survival not to have a well ordered system for the creation and upbringing of children, by families." Such "sexual perverts" engaged in "irregular practices which do anything but tend toward the creation of children" and "efforts [which] tend not towards enjoyment but toward the pollution and derangement of sex itself so as to make it as repulsive as possible to others and so to inhibit procreation."[3]
Hubbard's 1951 book Handbook for Preclears likewise classified homosexuality as "about 1.1 (covert hostility) on the tone scale", along with "general promiscuity". He set out what he saw as the cause of homosexuality: a mental "aberration", with the result that "an individual aberrated enough about sex will do strange things to be a cause or an effect. He will substitute punishment for sex. He will pervert others. Homosexuality comes from this manifestation and from the manifestation of life continuation for others." The "aberration" was caused by a child trying to "continue the life" of a dominant parent of the opposite sex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_and_sexual_orientation
"The sexual pervert (and by this term Dianetics, to be brief, includes any and all forms of deviation in Dynamic II [i.e. sexuality] such as homosexuality, lesbianism, sexual sadism, etc., and all down the catalog of Ellis and Krafft-Ebing) is actually quite ill physically...he is very far from culpable for his condition, but he is also far from normal and extremely dangerous to society..."
Hubbard further defined perversion in his 1951 book Science of Survival: Prediction of Human Behavior, where he introduced the concept of the "tone scale", a means of classifying individuals and human behavior on a chart running from +40 (the most beneficial) to -40 (the least beneficial). Sexual perversion, a category in which he included homosexuality, was termed "covert hostility" and given a score of 1.1, "the level of the pervert, the hypocrite, the turncoat, ...the subversive." He considered such people to be "skulking coward[s] who yet contain enough perfidious energy to strike back, but not enough courage ever to give warning."[2]
He characterized "promiscuity, perversion, sadism, and irregular practices" as well as "free love, easy marriage and quick divorce" as being undesirable activities, "since it is non-survival not to have a well ordered system for the creation and upbringing of children, by families." Such "sexual perverts" engaged in "irregular practices which do anything but tend toward the creation of children" and "efforts [which] tend not towards enjoyment but toward the pollution and derangement of sex itself so as to make it as repulsive as possible to others and so to inhibit procreation."[3]
Hubbard's 1951 book Handbook for Preclears likewise classified homosexuality as "about 1.1 (covert hostility) on the tone scale", along with "general promiscuity". He set out what he saw as the cause of homosexuality: a mental "aberration", with the result that "an individual aberrated enough about sex will do strange things to be a cause or an effect. He will substitute punishment for sex. He will pervert others. Homosexuality comes from this manifestation and from the manifestation of life continuation for others." The "aberration" was caused by a child trying to "continue the life" of a dominant parent of the opposite sex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_and_sexual_orientation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_and_sexual_orientation
1 October 2016 14:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hubbard felt that African Americans had a tendency to personify the MEST universe by giving objects personalities: "Actually, have you ever noticed how a negro, in particular, down south, where they're pretty close to the soil, personifies MEST? The gate post and the wagon and the whip and anything around there. A hat – they talk to 'em, you know. 'Wassa madda wit you, hat?' They imbue them, with personality."
Other racial implications of MEST
In The Fundamentals of Thought, Hubbard also says:
Unlike yellow and brown people, the white does not usually believe he can get attention from matter or objects. The yellow and brown believe for the most part (and it is all a matter of consideration) that rocks, trees, walls etc. can give them attention. The white man seldom believes this and so is likely to become anxious about people.
Thus the white saves people, prevents famine, flood, disease and revolution for people as the only purveyors of attention are scarce. The white goes further. He often believes he can get attention only from whites and that yellow and brown peoples' attention is worthless. Thus the yellow and brown races are not very progressive but by and large, saner. And the white race is progressive but more frantic. The yellow and brown races do not understand white concern for "bad conditions" since what is a few million dead men? There are plenty of identities and there is plenty of attention, they think. The white can't understand them. Nor can they understand the white.
See also
PMEST (Personality, Matter, Energy, Space, Time) in Ranganathan's colon classification introduced in 1933.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colon_classification
Other racial implications of MEST
In The Fundamentals of Thought, Hubbard also says:
Unlike yellow and brown people, the white does not usually believe he can get attention from matter or objects. The yellow and brown believe for the most part (and it is all a matter of consideration) that rocks, trees, walls etc. can give them attention. The white man seldom believes this and so is likely to become anxious about people.
Thus the white saves people, prevents famine, flood, disease and revolution for people as the only purveyors of attention are scarce. The white goes further. He often believes he can get attention only from whites and that yellow and brown peoples' attention is worthless. Thus the yellow and brown races are not very progressive but by and large, saner. And the white race is progressive but more frantic. The yellow and brown races do not understand white concern for "bad conditions" since what is a few million dead men? There are plenty of identities and there is plenty of attention, they think. The white can't understand them. Nor can they understand the white.
See also
PMEST (Personality, Matter, Energy, Space, Time) in Ranganathan's colon classification introduced in 1933.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colon_classification
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colon_classification
1 October 2016 14:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Hubbard frequently use the term MEST in place of the phrase "the physical universe". Hubbard described the purpose of the "Theta Universe" as "the conquest, change, and ordering of MEST" (our physical universe).[2][3][4] Hubbard stated that thetans (spiritual entitites) “created their own ideal universes, which, in turn, were taken over by a MEST universe.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEST_(Scientology)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEST_(Scientology)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEST_(Scientology)
1 October 2016 14:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Cruise is "absolutely thrilled" to take the flight because when he goes into space it will allow him to better feel "the spirit of Xenu."
According to Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard (LRH), Xenu was the dictator of the "Galactic Confederacy" approximately 75 million years ago. He brought billions of his people to Earth before they were killed with hydrogen bombs.
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Author Lawrence Wright (Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood and The Prison of Belief), claims that Cruise is the third highest ranking member of the church behind Miscavige and LRH. The actor reportedly once told a girlfriend: "It goes like this. First, there’s LRH (L. Ron Hubbard). Then, there’s COB (Chairman of the Board David Miscavige). Then there’s me."
So perhaps he's due for a promotion?
It was rumored that Cruise was considering leaving the church in order to reestablish a relationship with his nine-year-old daughter Suri. However, the offer to make him co-chair of the organization has changed his mind.
After landing his new and powerful position, Cruise will reportedly continue to make films. He's currently filming a "Jack Reacher" sequel and has plans to do a "Mission: Impossible 6" and "Top Gun 2."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_Thetan
According to Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard (LRH), Xenu was the dictator of the "Galactic Confederacy" approximately 75 million years ago. He brought billions of his people to Earth before they were killed with hydrogen bombs.
--
Author Lawrence Wright (Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood and The Prison of Belief), claims that Cruise is the third highest ranking member of the church behind Miscavige and LRH. The actor reportedly once told a girlfriend: "It goes like this. First, there’s LRH (L. Ron Hubbard). Then, there’s COB (Chairman of the Board David Miscavige). Then there’s me."
So perhaps he's due for a promotion?
It was rumored that Cruise was considering leaving the church in order to reestablish a relationship with his nine-year-old daughter Suri. However, the offer to make him co-chair of the organization has changed his mind.
After landing his new and powerful position, Cruise will reportedly continue to make films. He's currently filming a "Jack Reacher" sequel and has plans to do a "Mission: Impossible 6" and "Top Gun 2."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_Thetan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_Thetan
1 October 2016 14:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Before The Flood
The science is clear. The future is not.
Leonardo DiCaprio is embarking on the role of a lifetime, exploring climate change’s devastating impact on the planet and using his unprecedented access to speak with activists, scientists, and world leaders including Barack Obama, Elon Musk, and Pope Francis.
Before The Flood – premieres 30 October on National Geographic Channel and nationalgeographic.com.au
http://www.nationalgeographic.com.au/tv/before-the-flood/
The science is clear. The future is not.
Leonardo DiCaprio is embarking on the role of a lifetime, exploring climate change’s devastating impact on the planet and using his unprecedented access to speak with activists, scientists, and world leaders including Barack Obama, Elon Musk, and Pope Francis.
Before The Flood – premieres 30 October on National Geographic Channel and nationalgeographic.com.au
http://www.nationalgeographic.com.au/tv/before-the-flood/
http://www.nationalgeographic.com.au/tv/before-the-flood/
1 October 2016 13:56
Margus Meigo commented on Eestimaa Rohelised's post.
Kuidagi imelikult vähe jah.. arvastades Avalike kanepi toetajaid, kes ennast roheliste gruppi pannud..
1 October 2016 13:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Te peate ju selle inimesega lapsi saama ja kasvatama, majapidamist korras hoidma, eluplaane tegema, külas käima, suhtlema suguvõsaga ja üleüldse elama kõige tavalisemat primitiivset olmelist elu. Ja kui te loodate, et "see karikas läheb minust mööda", siis te eksite VÄÄÄÄGA rängalt. Sest kuidas asjad tegelikult käivad? Esialgu tahame me pikka-ilusat-tarka-rikast-seksikat-romantilist meest, aga siis väga palju aastaid hiljem me mõistame, ja me KÕIK mõistame, et meile on vaja lihtsalt inimest, kelle peale saab loota ja kindel olla, kes on su kõrval mitte ainult siis, kui talle see pähe tuleb ja sobib, vaid ALATI. Alati, mõistate? Seetõttu on turvatunne äärmiselt tähtis."
1 October 2016 13:33
Margus Meigo commented on Berit Masso's post.
Elementaarne, tore, et sellest keegi kirjutama on ka rohkem hakanud
1 October 2016 13:23
Margus Meigo replied to Isa Linda's comment.
this song was coming from most conservative, state , "old people" educational, high level intelectual station
30 September 2016 19:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Not much to add here,
Kes pildil on, peakohal?
Kes pildil on, peakohal?
30 September 2016 18:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
exactly
30 September 2016 18:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
do not assume, that everyones has their own perseption,
this is to much assuming
this is to much assuming
30 September 2016 18:27
Margus Meigo replied to Andrea Spaic's comment.
Who looks better, Stalin or Hitler ?
I think stalin perhaps is blessed with better looks, or was just better artists who recorded him
I think stalin perhaps is blessed with better looks, or was just better artists who recorded him
30 September 2016 18:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
:D
30 September 2016 18:08
Margus Meigo commented on Jurij Alimoff's post.
Last look is better,
Suit is that all the not so nice and "unable to think free" kind of anti-nature people using mostly.. so yeah, time to free our self from that prison uniform, specially the tie..
Suit is that all the not so nice and "unable to think free" kind of anti-nature people using mostly.. so yeah, time to free our self from that prison uniform, specially the tie..
30 September 2016 17:49
Margus Meigo commented on Jurij Alimoff's photo.
Not a supporter of porn networks but this is respect worth moove, great indeed!
Human thinking
Human thinking
30 September 2016 17:48
Margus Meigo commented on Aintrais Parte's photo.
Yea, u star, be careful with these pentagram classes throught what You have been made see the world early on =))
30 September 2016 17:42
Margus Meigo commented on Aintrais Parte's post.
Do not even talkabout or mention anything that..
or it might look as You missing it, instead moving on
or it might look as You missing it, instead moving on
30 September 2016 17:41
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's photo.
Vali Vunts!
30 September 2016 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to Mihkel Laurits's comment.
Kas Sa tõesti julged arvata, et SELLISEl Naisel ,jääb tarkusest kuskilt maalt puudu???
30 September 2016 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to Inga Kinga's comment.
Inga, aga Kersti kohta on ütlus: "kes ei tea Kerstit, ei tea nagunii mittemidagi" .. ehk siis kes on ennast PÄRIS kultuursete ja tarkade asjadega kursis hoidnud, nende inimeste jaoks ei ole ju võõras inimene
30 September 2016 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to Merili Kalda's comment.
Nii on
30 September 2016 01:39
Margus Meigo replied to Eve Kalvi's comment.
Nu kui vaadata, mis meie riigile vaja on, siis parimad said olla ainult Siim miskite mõõtude järgi (tegi Eesti riigile oma raha jms),
Kuid kui vaadata mida meie riik nii sisemiselt kui väliselt vajab, siis selline juhus mis juhtus, sai ainult tugeva palvetamise ja Jumala õnnistuse läbi tekkida,
sellist kingitust meie riik ei osanud unistadagi.
Kuid kui vaadata mida meie riik nii sisemiselt kui väliselt vajab, siis selline juhus mis juhtus, sai ainult tugeva palvetamise ja Jumala õnnistuse läbi tekkida,
sellist kingitust meie riik ei osanud unistadagi.
30 September 2016 01:38
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Kangro's comment.
Kui üldse keegi mõtleb, siis Tema
30 September 2016 01:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sober Toomas Saarepera ütles hästi: See kes Kersti Kaljulaidu ei tea, ei tea nagunii mitte midagi
seega miks nende järgi muretseda?
seega miks nende järgi muretseda?
30 September 2016 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Tuisk's post.
tyyp satanisti org liige kah, et nagu see 66 ja kogu teema, insidendi tekitas ka 6 '6 6 el.
30 September 2016 00:35
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Tuisk's post.
Mingi paar inimest, vastab provokatiivse valge homo kirja peale kellel meeldib teisi kultuure imeda ja neilt taha saada ning me peame sellest sitast siis sinna otsa veel leiutama mingi kommunistliku utoopilise propakanda???
Algset paberit lugesite v?
Kui neid asju vastata, USA saatkonnale, siis sedasi poliitiliselt vastataksegi, ega siis sellega ei hkka reaalselt keegi sedasi tegelema..
Ja seda jura nimetatakse kiriklikuks ???'
Algset paberit lugesite v?
Kui neid asju vastata, USA saatkonnale, siis sedasi poliitiliselt vastataksegi, ega siis sellega ei hkka reaalselt keegi sedasi tegelema..
Ja seda jura nimetatakse kiriklikuks ???'
30 September 2016 00:29
Margus Meigo replied to MA Rco's comment.
Tegelikult on vastupidi
29 September 2016 22:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Rabbi Manisel meeste poole pealt, selgitusi mis on armastus, niipalju kui mees seda seletada suudab
29 September 2016 14:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siin naine kes harivalt laulab armastusest , suurelt, ilma mürgita, lihtsusega
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjwZAa2EjKA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjwZAa2EjKA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjwZAa2EjKA
29 September 2016 14:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See, et keegi suhestub sinu valuga, mille "nad" kaardistanud harju keskmiselt, ET MIS VALUD JA TUNDED, MÕTTED ON POPULAARSEMAD, mida ise "NAD" tekitanud... ja siis avastanud (nad, armastuse vastased). et kui sellest laulda kenasti naiste silmis kes keeegi kadedust otseselt tema osas ei tunne, ... ja miksida kokku tehniliselt analüüsitud meloodiate ja häälte, taustalugudega mis välja valitud robotite arvates kui kõige enam inimestele mõjuv (klaverist rütmitaktini).. siis see inimese hinge sisse pääseb, see mõrudus...
29 September 2016 14:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ühesõnaga, sellised laulud ei vii inimesi kokku (pigem aitavad hoida lahus), ei õpeta noortele armastuse ega tunnete või adekvaatsuse kohta ning kordavad meie alateadvuses ebahäid ringmõtteid ja mantraid mis meid mitte sügavusele vaid tühjusele ligemale viib.
Ühesõnaga paras nõiakunst ja mustmaagia,
kuigi, piisab ka sellest kui inimest vaatad.. ja kuidas miks promoti... kuidas ära kasutati.. kõik see eellugu mis meelega sinna ümber panti, et seda valutarbeks kasutada, ... ohet vihjeid ja ilmselgeid märke, kui ebaõige see asi on, on kuhjas, kuid see valu millekülge kinni jäädakse, pimestab nägemast..
Ühesõnaga paras nõiakunst ja mustmaagia,
kuigi, piisab ka sellest kui inimest vaatad.. ja kuidas miks promoti... kuidas ära kasutati.. kõik see eellugu mis meelega sinna ümber panti, et seda valutarbeks kasutada, ... ohet vihjeid ja ilmselgeid märke, kui ebaõige see asi on, on kuhjas, kuid see valu millekülge kinni jäädakse, pimestab nägemast..
29 September 2016 14:04
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
ja selle vea kaitsmisek audu, teiste loodud erakondade osadega node ümber, saab alati piitsutada ja kontrollida.. sikutada
29 September 2016 13:57
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
automaatvaim oli pigem mõeldud poliitiliste parteide taga olev energia, "egregor", salaluure ja rahamehed, kuidas iganes võtta, kes kasutaad ühte või teist silti enda kasuks, neid ei koti kas see parem või vasakpool niivõrd kui eesmärk,
... kuid muidugi kuna ideoloogia , on ise "vasem" ehk valem, ehk siis mitte austusel ja praktilisel pidevas paranemise suunas, vaid kasutamise ja laienemise, kontrolli suunas, siis sellised oelndid, rooma impeeriumi struktuurid jah.. kasutavad mis iganes erakondasi kellele ligi saavad.. mida vasakum, seda lihtsamini ligi saada,
pareamte puhul vahest parem algusest peale uus võlts parem teha.. kuid ka sellel on oht, et lipsab käest kui lipsumehed kindlasse skisofreeniasse paika pandud ei saa, vastumeelselt monele teisele paremale kes on Õigem,
sisi saab valega vale parempoolsust juhitda ja nad ise oma viga kaitsevad ja hoiavad nagu oma väärtust
... kuid muidugi kuna ideoloogia , on ise "vasem" ehk valem, ehk siis mitte austusel ja praktilisel pidevas paranemise suunas, vaid kasutamise ja laienemise, kontrolli suunas, siis sellised oelndid, rooma impeeriumi struktuurid jah.. kasutavad mis iganes erakondasi kellele ligi saavad.. mida vasakum, seda lihtsamini ligi saada,
pareamte puhul vahest parem algusest peale uus võlts parem teha.. kuid ka sellel on oht, et lipsab käest kui lipsumehed kindlasse skisofreeniasse paika pandud ei saa, vastumeelselt monele teisele paremale kes on Õigem,
sisi saab valega vale parempoolsust juhitda ja nad ise oma viga kaitsevad ja hoiavad nagu oma väärtust
29 September 2016 13:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
näha ju olemusest ja meikapist, et see naine pole ei alandlikuses ega armastuses vaid rohkem alaväärtuses ja valus,
ja need omadused inimestele kes ei tea elu.. ja mida nad siis üle maailma armastusest laulavad, kui nad segaduses ja valus, süvendades teiste valu ja segadust?
ja need omadused inimestele kes ei tea elu.. ja mida nad siis üle maailma armastusest laulavad, kui nad segaduses ja valus, süvendades teiste valu ja segadust?
29 September 2016 13:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thea Inno selles mure ongi ,et tal sellised laulud on... proovi aru saada mis hingehead see nüüd naistele tegema peaks võrreldes mone eesti armastus lauluga 80 dest
29 September 2016 13:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Võtame esimese ettejuhtuva laulu lüürika lahti temal, vaatamaks, siis kas on tal sedasi põhjustvalu südametesse tuua ja piinalikku kurbust ning tühjust. Või on ikka tegu naise süüga, kes ei suvatsenud enne suhte algust vanematelt õppida mis on suhted ja armumine, armastus, kooselu, abikaasa.
Laulu algus:
"When will I see you again?
You left with no goodbye, not a single word was said
No final kiss to seal anything
And I had no idea of the state we were in"
Siit juba on selge, et naine on ennast mässinud mingisuguse ebaarmastusväärse mehega kokku, kes kui just ära ei röövitud, hoolis naisest nii vähe, et ei ütelnud kuhu läheb ja miks.
Naine ise on siis täis segaduses, sest hüppas kiiresti suhtesse, seda endale krabada püüdes kuid kutt põgenes, peale selle saamist mida tal vaja oli ning naine siis täeisti saamatuna ei tea mis ja kas ta suhteski on. Mis ja kus maal node suhe on, see pole ju armastus, see tänapäeva saamatus.
Kuid noh, oletame, et kõik oli hästi ja siis juhtus selline juhus ... ja siis selline mure ja esimene salm nagu oleks lubatud, tulnukad röövisid mehe ja naine päris armastust ei jõudnud aktiviseerida, mis tal kogu tõde tunnetuse kaudu annaks, et kas on mõtet muretseda või ei.
Et siis järgmine salm:
" I know I have a fickle heart and a bitterness
And a wandering eye, and a heaviness in my head
But don't you remember, don't you remember?
The reason you loved me before
Baby please remember me once more"
Nii, siit näha, nagu arvata oli, et nainsel siis eneseväärtus maas, eneseväärtushinnangud ja lunib armastust sellest kohast kus seda pole.
Tunnistab ka veel üles, et mis süda tal on ja kuidas tal bitterness on... muidugi ku ital endal oleks armastus, siis poleks tal midagi mõrudat, kui täiskasvanud naine oleks tundelise poole pealt, mitte alles kasvatamata nooruke suhte asjades.
Ja siis see totter inimesi lõhkuv sloogan "Once more"
Mis Korraks ? Nõuda tuleb ALATISEKS, arusaada, et teine sinu reaalne pool on. Mitte korraks.. ja siis uuesti koraks ja sedasi jupitatakse ja pendeldatakse
ja eeeeldab juba selle mehe osas, kes siis lahkus, et to enam EI armasta toda.. ja siis treenib siin kuulajaid totrale teole, et õigustab nende meeste taganutmist, kes naisest ei hooli ja kes enam neid ei armasta... ehk siis surmavad armastuse energiat.
"When was the last time you thought of me?
Or have you completely erased me from your memories?
'Cause I often think about where I went wrong
And the more I do, the less I know"
Nii, siin jällegi, tüüpiline ennast piitsutav sloogan, et ikka kohe mõelda, et ISE naisena eksisid.. kui teine ILMSELGELT ei olnud armastuses, ja lahkus ILMA selgituseta, ehk siis TEINE oli ilmselges veas, kes vähegi poolearuline armu asjades on, saab ju aru, hea inimene lahku minnes teeb seda kenasti , selgelt ja mitte salaja ükskõikselt. Ja siis ajab ennast segadusse (paraleelis aitab see vale armulaul inimestel õigustada oma samasuguseid sassis mõtteid ja segadusi ning neid kinnistada, et "Nii on" "tunnen ka nii" jms.. kuigi see on vale tunne, sest ei põhine lahendusel ja selgusel ega õigusel).
Kui inimene TIHTI mõtleb oma vigadest, et siis ta järelikult poel vigadest aru saanud ja on deemoni küüsis kes teda ringi ratast sundmõtetes uskuma pannud on, et temasendas on viga sees.. ja sedasi lukkus hoides, see tulnukas kes ta tundetuna maha jättis saigi oma valitsuselt seda mida vaja.
Ilmselgelt pole naine enne voodisse minekut asju selgeks täielikult rääkinud, ja siis nüüd segaduse ja valu hunnikus, mis on ilmselge tulemus, kui neisse asjusse sedasi hüpata.
Ei vaevuta arusaama, et armastus veel poel riiklikult ega korporatiivselt toetatud kui kõrgeim väärtus, ja siis sedasi elades, imestavad, miks asjad katki on? Kas aru ei saadud mis ilmas elati ? ..need vaimud kes selle laulu taga.. aga teavad hästi...
ja siis nagu deemonitel ikka, selle sama kurva uuesti kordamine, uuesti üle ja üle. ilma lahenduseta, ilma lootuseta.
"But don't you remember?
Don't you remember?
The reason you loved me before,
Baby, please remember me once more"
Kogu see salm on negatiivne
"mitte mäeltama" 2x
"enne armastama" (ehk mitte-armastama, mis väga suur kohutav asi ju)
ja siis palumine pool emotsiooniline nõudmine, et teine "mäletaks, KORRA veel.. nu milleks... milleks selline inimene ?
Siin ju ilmselge, et kas a) inimene, see mees on haige ja vaim üle võtnud tema, siis poel vaja ulguda vaid ravitsema ja hoolitsema, armastust parandama hakata mitme strateeegiaga (selline negatiivne südamevalu ketramine eemaldab igasugust armastust)
VOI, oli tegu tulnuk petturi või muidu mölakaga või mitte arenenuga, kes sedasi maha jätab ja ei suhtle ka, selgitamaks miks ja kuidas.. ja siis rsk, SELLISE meeste taga nutetakse, selleasemel ,et oma armastust jagada nendega, kes seda väärivad, ja ootavad, ...selle asemel nutetakse nende üle kes sind hoolimatult hülgas...
ja kes oli see, kes valis endale selle hülgaja, kes ei lugenud märke.?
Laulu algus:
"When will I see you again?
You left with no goodbye, not a single word was said
No final kiss to seal anything
And I had no idea of the state we were in"
Siit juba on selge, et naine on ennast mässinud mingisuguse ebaarmastusväärse mehega kokku, kes kui just ära ei röövitud, hoolis naisest nii vähe, et ei ütelnud kuhu läheb ja miks.
Naine ise on siis täis segaduses, sest hüppas kiiresti suhtesse, seda endale krabada püüdes kuid kutt põgenes, peale selle saamist mida tal vaja oli ning naine siis täeisti saamatuna ei tea mis ja kas ta suhteski on. Mis ja kus maal node suhe on, see pole ju armastus, see tänapäeva saamatus.
Kuid noh, oletame, et kõik oli hästi ja siis juhtus selline juhus ... ja siis selline mure ja esimene salm nagu oleks lubatud, tulnukad röövisid mehe ja naine päris armastust ei jõudnud aktiviseerida, mis tal kogu tõde tunnetuse kaudu annaks, et kas on mõtet muretseda või ei.
Et siis järgmine salm:
" I know I have a fickle heart and a bitterness
And a wandering eye, and a heaviness in my head
But don't you remember, don't you remember?
The reason you loved me before
Baby please remember me once more"
Nii, siit näha, nagu arvata oli, et nainsel siis eneseväärtus maas, eneseväärtushinnangud ja lunib armastust sellest kohast kus seda pole.
Tunnistab ka veel üles, et mis süda tal on ja kuidas tal bitterness on... muidugi ku ital endal oleks armastus, siis poleks tal midagi mõrudat, kui täiskasvanud naine oleks tundelise poole pealt, mitte alles kasvatamata nooruke suhte asjades.
Ja siis see totter inimesi lõhkuv sloogan "Once more"
Mis Korraks ? Nõuda tuleb ALATISEKS, arusaada, et teine sinu reaalne pool on. Mitte korraks.. ja siis uuesti koraks ja sedasi jupitatakse ja pendeldatakse
ja eeeeldab juba selle mehe osas, kes siis lahkus, et to enam EI armasta toda.. ja siis treenib siin kuulajaid totrale teole, et õigustab nende meeste taganutmist, kes naisest ei hooli ja kes enam neid ei armasta... ehk siis surmavad armastuse energiat.
"When was the last time you thought of me?
Or have you completely erased me from your memories?
'Cause I often think about where I went wrong
And the more I do, the less I know"
Nii, siin jällegi, tüüpiline ennast piitsutav sloogan, et ikka kohe mõelda, et ISE naisena eksisid.. kui teine ILMSELGELT ei olnud armastuses, ja lahkus ILMA selgituseta, ehk siis TEINE oli ilmselges veas, kes vähegi poolearuline armu asjades on, saab ju aru, hea inimene lahku minnes teeb seda kenasti , selgelt ja mitte salaja ükskõikselt. Ja siis ajab ennast segadusse (paraleelis aitab see vale armulaul inimestel õigustada oma samasuguseid sassis mõtteid ja segadusi ning neid kinnistada, et "Nii on" "tunnen ka nii" jms.. kuigi see on vale tunne, sest ei põhine lahendusel ja selgusel ega õigusel).
Kui inimene TIHTI mõtleb oma vigadest, et siis ta järelikult poel vigadest aru saanud ja on deemoni küüsis kes teda ringi ratast sundmõtetes uskuma pannud on, et temasendas on viga sees.. ja sedasi lukkus hoides, see tulnukas kes ta tundetuna maha jättis saigi oma valitsuselt seda mida vaja.
Ilmselgelt pole naine enne voodisse minekut asju selgeks täielikult rääkinud, ja siis nüüd segaduse ja valu hunnikus, mis on ilmselge tulemus, kui neisse asjusse sedasi hüpata.
Ei vaevuta arusaama, et armastus veel poel riiklikult ega korporatiivselt toetatud kui kõrgeim väärtus, ja siis sedasi elades, imestavad, miks asjad katki on? Kas aru ei saadud mis ilmas elati ? ..need vaimud kes selle laulu taga.. aga teavad hästi...
ja siis nagu deemonitel ikka, selle sama kurva uuesti kordamine, uuesti üle ja üle. ilma lahenduseta, ilma lootuseta.
"But don't you remember?
Don't you remember?
The reason you loved me before,
Baby, please remember me once more"
Kogu see salm on negatiivne
"mitte mäeltama" 2x
"enne armastama" (ehk mitte-armastama, mis väga suur kohutav asi ju)
ja siis palumine pool emotsiooniline nõudmine, et teine "mäletaks, KORRA veel.. nu milleks... milleks selline inimene ?
Siin ju ilmselge, et kas a) inimene, see mees on haige ja vaim üle võtnud tema, siis poel vaja ulguda vaid ravitsema ja hoolitsema, armastust parandama hakata mitme strateeegiaga (selline negatiivne südamevalu ketramine eemaldab igasugust armastust)
VOI, oli tegu tulnuk petturi või muidu mölakaga või mitte arenenuga, kes sedasi maha jätab ja ei suhtle ka, selgitamaks miks ja kuidas.. ja siis rsk, SELLISE meeste taga nutetakse, selleasemel ,et oma armastust jagada nendega, kes seda väärivad, ja ootavad, ...selle asemel nutetakse nende üle kes sind hoolimatult hülgas...
ja kes oli see, kes valis endale selle hülgaja, kes ei lugenud märke.?
29 September 2016 13:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tema toon välja, lihtsalt sest temal see viirus ka sees, kuid selel asemel, ta hoopis jäänud inimestele kõlama nagu hinge ja armu mingi oluline palaad.
Kuid ei suvatseta usklikuna vaadata, kas selline valu ja enese vaev, oleks ka siis inimesel, kui tal meeled selged on, kui ta aktsepteerib ja võtab vastusuee kogu maailma kasvatuse eest,
Kuid ei suvatseta usklikuna vaadata, kas selline valu ja enese vaev, oleks ka siis inimesel, kui tal meeled selged on, kui ta aktsepteerib ja võtab vastusuee kogu maailma kasvatuse eest,
29 September 2016 13:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja siis taolistes nõialauludes, korratakse mantrana valesi valu slooganeid ja ebaõigeid käitumise ja mõtlemise norme, ning see alaarendab naiste tundeid ja nende elu kvaliteeti, sest nad saavad võlts seletusi oma valule selleasemel, et valust aru saada, et elust aru saada, selle asemel hoitakse sellist maas suruvat tooni, mis eluligidale ei vii .
See on väga kõrgtasemel satanism, inimorjastus programm, kuid seda seletada miks ta on, see võtab juba suts aega ja sarnast taktis mõtlemist,
Näost endast on juba näha, et inimene on vaimsetes valudes, ta hing poel aru saanud tema enda olemusest ja siis kui vaadata kogu laulu sõnumit ja võrrelda seda olukordadega, KUI Naine aru saab oma olemusest ja misjoonist.. siis on täeisti õigustamatu enamus see valu ja kurbus, mida inimesed ise endale teevad, sest nad proovivad mitte uskuda, et nad vaimses maailmas ka elavad ning põhjuseid on palju, kuid enamus põhjus on, et ei õpitud vanaemadelt, mis moodi armastust otsida ja mis parameetrite põhjal sobib inimestel kokku saada ja mis kohtumis meetotid ei ole suhtele kindalt müüri laduvad.
See on väga kõrgtasemel satanism, inimorjastus programm, kuid seda seletada miks ta on, see võtab juba suts aega ja sarnast taktis mõtlemist,
Näost endast on juba näha, et inimene on vaimsetes valudes, ta hing poel aru saanud tema enda olemusest ja siis kui vaadata kogu laulu sõnumit ja võrrelda seda olukordadega, KUI Naine aru saab oma olemusest ja misjoonist.. siis on täeisti õigustamatu enamus see valu ja kurbus, mida inimesed ise endale teevad, sest nad proovivad mitte uskuda, et nad vaimses maailmas ka elavad ning põhjuseid on palju, kuid enamus põhjus on, et ei õpitud vanaemadelt, mis moodi armastust otsida ja mis parameetrite põhjal sobib inimestel kokku saada ja mis kohtumis meetotid ei ole suhtele kindalt müüri laduvad.
29 September 2016 13:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jah, tuleb vaadata kas laul TÕEGA on kooskõlas, ja siis saab vaadata kas laul on saatanast või mitte, et kui laul inimesi emotsioonilisse vallu ilma lahenduseta saadab, sest valede algtõdede peale on lugu ja valu ehitatud
(ehk naine ei saanud aru KES ta on, kes ja miks on mehed, kuidas olla naine ja mis on Tõde kuidas käituma ja tundma peaks sinna otsa, kogedes võite või kaotusi)..
(ehk naine ei saanud aru KES ta on, kes ja miks on mehed, kuidas olla naine ja mis on Tõde kuidas käituma ja tundma peaks sinna otsa, kogedes võite või kaotusi)..
29 September 2016 13:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
for sure!
29 September 2016 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Hendrik Ilves's album.
Kuidas Sinu tava email on Toomas?
29 September 2016 04:18
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Hendrik Ilves's album.
Kui nad valesti teevad, oleme juba piisavalt suured, et julgeme neile seda öelda ja selgitada ka söbralikult või kärtusvalt kui vaja ?
29 September 2016 04:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
välismaal st, eu alaliitlased jms
29 September 2016 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
on veel midagi muud, lisaks mametikoha karusele.. loodame, et ikkagi 2020 plaanid mis Eesti välised, ei käivitanud suurelt ette,
viisnurkadel lihtne globaalseid uus iga maaale kasulikku olukorra muutust pakkuda, nii välitmatult suurt ja tõelist, et iagüks kes mõistust selles osas, et teab faktidena osapooli, peab nõustuma, et väga suur ja oluline, kasulik nõustumine saab see olema, kui kõik head ka veel koos teeksid
viisnurkadel lihtne globaalseid uus iga maaale kasulikku olukorra muutust pakkuda, nii välitmatult suurt ja tõelist, et iagüks kes mõistust selles osas, et teab faktidena osapooli, peab nõustuma, et väga suur ja oluline, kasulik nõustumine saab see olema, kui kõik head ka veel koos teeksid
29 September 2016 03:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
peaks nagu meeldetuletus laulud olema, kuid suur osa ikka tunnetab nagu oleks unustamise ja plaasterdamise ja valu üle inisemise laul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fetqAoVYUfc
Selleasemel, et osata naise väärtuse kohustused võtta ja oma positsiooonist arusaada, mida taolistes hetkedes kmillest laulab tegema oleks pidnaud ja kõik muu oleks ka siis olemata olnud, ka ahelreaktsioonina tekkinud valukaitsemehanismid ja muu taoliste suudnade ja lauludega endale aegajalt raskust tekitamise õigustus enesepiitsutus filosoofiate kandjatega
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fetqAoVYUfc
Selleasemel, et osata naise väärtuse kohustused võtta ja oma positsiooonist arusaada, mida taolistes hetkedes kmillest laulab tegema oleks pidnaud ja kõik muu oleks ka siis olemata olnud, ka ahelreaktsioonina tekkinud valukaitsemehanismid ja muu taoliste suudnade ja lauludega endale aegajalt raskust tekitamise õigustus enesepiitsutus filosoofiate kandjatega
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fetqAoVYUfc
29 September 2016 03:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
suure potensiaaliga, kuid eks nagu morfiin, sab algselt ka aitavalt mõjuda
29 September 2016 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see on ika üks jubepaha laul
29 September 2016 03:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Paraleerilis mõeldiud ka, erivägede erivägev plaan panna ekret uskuma, et kasutab keskat ja keska, et see nende uus seeme mida nende isad üles kasvatavad, kui vaja kesta vahetada
29 September 2016 03:17
Margus Meigo commented on Kuusik Silver's post.
Nu jah, ei saanud omale raamatupidajatki ju algul palgatud, ime pole, et selliste kopikatega seinaäärde pandi
29 September 2016 03:08
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Romantik
29 September 2016 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to Joosep Kõrvits's comment.
jah, "omamoodi kultuur"
prilllauapeale laskmisest mitte hoolimine on ka mingisugune raske paranähtus, kuid see ei tähenda, et seda ignoreerima peaks ja laskma inimesel teda häirimatult edasi olla nagu ta valesti tahab
prilllauapeale laskmisest mitte hoolimine on ka mingisugune raske paranähtus, kuid see ei tähenda, et seda ignoreerima peaks ja laskma inimesel teda häirimatult edasi olla nagu ta valesti tahab
29 September 2016 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
peaasi, et oli oluline, et saaksime oma kesta..
kelle kaudu saame eesti viamuga ligi ja nagu kom parteis meil tuliSinised olid, et säilitada me riigi olemus ja ajalugu, ... ja osad peavad siiamaani kaasa nängima, sest ega see asutus siis ju ei likvideerinud oma plaane ega ennast, ega plaane
kelle kaudu saame eesti viamuga ligi ja nagu kom parteis meil tuliSinised olid, et säilitada me riigi olemus ja ajalugu, ... ja osad peavad siiamaani kaasa nängima, sest ega see asutus siis ju ei likvideerinud oma plaane ega ennast, ega plaane
29 September 2016 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on Kuusik Silver's post.
Kuule, kui inimesele ajupesu tehakse, siis ta ise ka ei tea kes ta on.
FSB lased teaksid hästi kes on ja keda oleks vaja, eestLaste siia sinna uskumise või tunnetamise kaudu liiigutamiseks, ja paljud muud riigid keskpärast luure võimekusega,
ja me lihtsalt sedasi?
Selle inimesega peab pidev isiklik lähedane kontakt jääma, õnneks tean inimesi kelledest paljudele ta isiklik sõber
FSB lased teaksid hästi kes on ja keda oleks vaja, eestLaste siia sinna uskumise või tunnetamise kaudu liiigutamiseks, ja paljud muud riigid keskpärast luure võimekusega,
ja me lihtsalt sedasi?
Selle inimesega peab pidev isiklik lähedane kontakt jääma, õnneks tean inimesi kelledest paljudele ta isiklik sõber
29 September 2016 02:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siia otsa muu keel, tunnetakvaks, et pole ing keele invadimine, ja ka nagu folk laul vms.
kuigi .. kas nende jurde oleks vaja meil vast seletada, kelle laule me muidu kuulame.. voi tunentame...
kuigi .. kas nende jurde oleks vaja meil vast seletada, kelle laule me muidu kuulame.. voi tunentame...
29 September 2016 01:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja see muutu b rahulikuks klaveri, muukeelse rahulikuseks, opetamaks armastamist , armutunne tunnetamist muuu keele osas, ja muu maailma motete osas,
...
kuid see oige heli versioon. Millegi pärast seda ei leia...
---
I heard that you're settled down
That you found a girl and you're married now.
I heard that your dreams came true.
Guess she gave you things I didn't give to you.
Old friend, why are you so shy?
Ain't like you to hold back or hide from the light.
I hate to turn up out of the blue uninvited
But I couldn't stay away, I couldn't fight it.
I had hoped you'd see my face and that you'd be reminded
That for me it isn't over.
Never mind, I'll find someone like you
I wish nothing but the best for you too
Don't forget me, I beg
I'll remember you said,
"Sometimes it lasts in love but sometimes it hurts instead,
Sometimes it lasts in love but sometimes it hurts instead"
You know how the time flies
Only yesterday was the time of our lives
We were born and raised
In a summer haze
Bound by the surprise of our glory days
I hate to turn up out of the blue uninvited
But I couldn't stay away, I couldn't fight it.
I'd hoped you'd see my face and that you'd be reminded
That for me it isn't over.
Never mind, I'll find someone like you
I wish nothing but the best for you too
Don't forget me, I beg
I'll remember you said,
"Sometimes it lasts in love but sometimes it hurts instead."
Nothing compares
No worries or cares
Regrets and mistakes
They are memories made.
Who would have known how bittersweet this would taste?
Never mind, I'll find someone like you
I wish nothing but the best for you
Don't forget me, I beg
I'll remember you said,
"Sometimes it lasts in love but sometimes it hurts instead".
Never mind, I'll find someone like you
I wish nothing but the best for you too
Don't forget me, I beg
I'll remember you said,
"Sometimes it lasts in love but sometimes it hurts instead,
Sometimes it lasts in love but sometimes it hurts instead."
...
kuid see oige heli versioon. Millegi pärast seda ei leia...
---
I heard that you're settled down
That you found a girl and you're married now.
I heard that your dreams came true.
Guess she gave you things I didn't give to you.
Old friend, why are you so shy?
Ain't like you to hold back or hide from the light.
I hate to turn up out of the blue uninvited
But I couldn't stay away, I couldn't fight it.
I had hoped you'd see my face and that you'd be reminded
That for me it isn't over.
Never mind, I'll find someone like you
I wish nothing but the best for you too
Don't forget me, I beg
I'll remember you said,
"Sometimes it lasts in love but sometimes it hurts instead,
Sometimes it lasts in love but sometimes it hurts instead"
You know how the time flies
Only yesterday was the time of our lives
We were born and raised
In a summer haze
Bound by the surprise of our glory days
I hate to turn up out of the blue uninvited
But I couldn't stay away, I couldn't fight it.
I'd hoped you'd see my face and that you'd be reminded
That for me it isn't over.
Never mind, I'll find someone like you
I wish nothing but the best for you too
Don't forget me, I beg
I'll remember you said,
"Sometimes it lasts in love but sometimes it hurts instead."
Nothing compares
No worries or cares
Regrets and mistakes
They are memories made.
Who would have known how bittersweet this would taste?
Never mind, I'll find someone like you
I wish nothing but the best for you
Don't forget me, I beg
I'll remember you said,
"Sometimes it lasts in love but sometimes it hurts instead".
Never mind, I'll find someone like you
I wish nothing but the best for you too
Don't forget me, I beg
I'll remember you said,
"Sometimes it lasts in love but sometimes it hurts instead,
Sometimes it lasts in love but sometimes it hurts instead."
29 September 2016 01:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hannaliisa Uusma (HU?) - NõiarinG tuleb sinna otsa, nu on tase :D
Tuus Tuus, see päriselt arvestades, mis kanal, ja kuidas mis muusika tuli, hariv teadvuse osas.
Kuid selle muusika muu enda osas, peaks olema ka osad seletused juures, et arendada ka arusaamist eri muusikapillidega seotud inimeste komuunide ja muid arusaami millest räägitakse neis nõiaringides
Tuus Tuus, see päriselt arvestades, mis kanal, ja kuidas mis muusika tuli, hariv teadvuse osas.
Kuid selle muusika muu enda osas, peaks olema ka osad seletused juures, et arendada ka arusaamist eri muusikapillidega seotud inimeste komuunide ja muid arusaami millest räägitakse neis nõiaringides
29 September 2016 01:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nagu marilin manson, kreebituse poole pealt, voi stiil kergelt naisel
29 September 2016 01:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
29 September 2016 01:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lugejad: (Silver Kuusik valis tolle saate muusika playlisti süsteemi kuidagi)
29 September 2016 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vau, sa kiilakas, ja pintsakus deemoni sarnane, poleks arvanutki, kuid teemat tunned, teed kõvasti õiget head selles osas, koostöö ja toetus olemas
29 September 2016 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Silver Kuusik Silver, yo,
Tase!
Tase!
29 September 2016 01:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kujutage ette, see rabiide ja papide lemmik kanal, et nagu kujutage ette, Aivar Pahk selle saatel tsillib
29 September 2016 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Et siis Orandsile robot eliminatorile
"Although loneliness has always been a friend of mine
I'm leavin' my life in your hands
People say I'm crazy and that I am blind
Risking it all in a glance
And how you got me blind is still a mystery
I can't get you out of my head
Don't care what is written in your history
As long as you're here with me
I don't care who you are
Where you're from
What you did
As long as you love me
Who you are
Where you're from
Don't care what you did
As long as you love me"
"Although loneliness has always been a friend of mine
I'm leavin' my life in your hands
People say I'm crazy and that I am blind
Risking it all in a glance
And how you got me blind is still a mystery
I can't get you out of my head
Don't care what is written in your history
As long as you're here with me
I don't care who you are
Where you're from
What you did
As long as you love me
Who you are
Where you're from
Don't care what you did
As long as you love me"
29 September 2016 01:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"plika armus poissi nagunii" , tema sees "
eelmine selline laul lippsas nimest juba, klassika raadio laivis ei ole enam laulu nimesi mul näha, vb winampis on
eelmine selline laul lippsas nimest juba, klassika raadio laivis ei ole enam laulu nimesi mul näha, vb winampis on
29 September 2016 01:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muusika on ka hea
29 September 2016 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#6114040 Telefon, kui soovitate pakkuda maitsvaid, meeldivaid lihtsaid häid retsepte, praemunadest ja keedukartulite soendamisest juba on juttu olnud
29 September 2016 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Igas toidus ei pea olema liha"
... isegi julgeti mainida, ja veel saatejuhipoolt, vanema ytargema proua poolt heaks kiita.
... isegi julgeti mainida, ja veel saatejuhipoolt, vanema ytargema proua poolt heaks kiita.
29 September 2016 00:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siia järgi tuleb kohe ka Elusteatri postitus, .. toiduvalmistmaise osas... pärmitainas jms,
Kuid siis soovitav vist kuulata saadet enne, ja Siis audiot järgi mis üleslaen
Kuid siis soovitav vist kuulata saadet enne, ja Siis audiot järgi mis üleslaen
29 September 2016 00:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
sporry spordimehed aga for real, milllal me sellest edasiareneneme, et finants sporti julgeakse võrrelda reaalsete väärtustehga
28 September 2016 20:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(aga see tüdrik kellele saadetud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzlMeTxVdH8 ... anna teada endast : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzlMeTxVdH8
28 September 2016 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on Kersti Kaljulaid's link.
Nii on Loodud : )
28 September 2016 19:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Nii pole ju ilus?
28 September 2016 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwashing:_The_Science_of_Thought_Control tnx!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwashing:_The_Science_of_Thought_Control
28 September 2016 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on Kai Ristikivi's photo.
Nii nad meid rakkesse said
28 September 2016 01:48
Margus Meigo replied to Kai Ristikivi's comment.
miks?
27 September 2016 23:24
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kuigi, vaeva tuleb näha, et siin ilmas päikse all midagi uut näha..
27 September 2016 23:23
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
KLe see mis saatsid, on päris huvitava kõlaga
"ISBN 9789949469512
Kathleen Taylori teos on paeluv sissejuhatus inimkäitumise tumeda poole mõistmiseks. Raamat annab usaldusväärse ja kergesti loetava ülevaate ajupesu kesksetest tehnikatest ja mõtete kontrollimise ajaloost, tutvustades samaaegselt ka silmapaistvate psühholoogide, filosoofide ja neuroteadlaste arvamusi ning eksperimente, mida on tehtud selle salapärase nähtuse mõistmiseks.
Autoril on õnnestunud lihtsalt ja kaasakiskuvalt esitada väga laiahaardelist materjali, tutvustades ajupesukäsitlusi psühholoogia kontekstis ning andes põhjaliku ülevaate neuroteaduslikest tagamaadest.
Oma teoses „Ajupesu” pöörab Kathleen Taylor erilist tähelepanu ajupesu praktilisele poolele meie igapäevaelus, sõlmides osavalt kokku kaasaja aju-uuringud, närviteaduse huvitavamad leiud ning sotsiaalpsühholoogia praktilised katsed ja avastused. Salapärast manipuleerimist vaetakse raamatus põnevate näidete ning kõhedusttekitavate päriselu-lugude kaudu. Taylor kirjeldab ilmekalt, kuidas hariduse, psühhoteraapia, reklaami, religiooni ning poliitika abil piiratakse inimeste mõtlemis- ja tegutsemisvabadust, luues väärkujutlusi ning käitumiseelistusi, mida inimesed tihti ei teadvusta.
Lihtsas keeles kirjutatud manipuleerimis- ja mõjutamispsühholoogia alane ülevaade pakub väärtuslikku mõtlemisainet kõigile psühholoogiahuvilistele ning laiemale lugejaskonnale. Samas täidab käesolev teos olulist lünka eestikeelses mõjutamispsühholoogia alases kirjanduses.
Kathleen Taylor on Oxfordi Ülikooli füsioloogia-, anatoomia- ja geneetikaosakonna teadur, kes on spetsialiseerunud kognitiivse neuroteaduse ja psühholoogia valdkonnale. Käesolev teos tõi autorile rahvusvahelise tunnustuse.
Ivar Tröner"
"ISBN 9789949469512
Kathleen Taylori teos on paeluv sissejuhatus inimkäitumise tumeda poole mõistmiseks. Raamat annab usaldusväärse ja kergesti loetava ülevaate ajupesu kesksetest tehnikatest ja mõtete kontrollimise ajaloost, tutvustades samaaegselt ka silmapaistvate psühholoogide, filosoofide ja neuroteadlaste arvamusi ning eksperimente, mida on tehtud selle salapärase nähtuse mõistmiseks.
Autoril on õnnestunud lihtsalt ja kaasakiskuvalt esitada väga laiahaardelist materjali, tutvustades ajupesukäsitlusi psühholoogia kontekstis ning andes põhjaliku ülevaate neuroteaduslikest tagamaadest.
Oma teoses „Ajupesu” pöörab Kathleen Taylor erilist tähelepanu ajupesu praktilisele poolele meie igapäevaelus, sõlmides osavalt kokku kaasaja aju-uuringud, närviteaduse huvitavamad leiud ning sotsiaalpsühholoogia praktilised katsed ja avastused. Salapärast manipuleerimist vaetakse raamatus põnevate näidete ning kõhedusttekitavate päriselu-lugude kaudu. Taylor kirjeldab ilmekalt, kuidas hariduse, psühhoteraapia, reklaami, religiooni ning poliitika abil piiratakse inimeste mõtlemis- ja tegutsemisvabadust, luues väärkujutlusi ning käitumiseelistusi, mida inimesed tihti ei teadvusta.
Lihtsas keeles kirjutatud manipuleerimis- ja mõjutamispsühholoogia alane ülevaade pakub väärtuslikku mõtlemisainet kõigile psühholoogiahuvilistele ning laiemale lugejaskonnale. Samas täidab käesolev teos olulist lünka eestikeelses mõjutamispsühholoogia alases kirjanduses.
Kathleen Taylor on Oxfordi Ülikooli füsioloogia-, anatoomia- ja geneetikaosakonna teadur, kes on spetsialiseerunud kognitiivse neuroteaduse ja psühholoogia valdkonnale. Käesolev teos tõi autorile rahvusvahelise tunnustuse.
Ivar Tröner"
27 September 2016 23:23
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ei ole parem, kuidas moodi see siis PAREM on mis, otsast??
Hallo, jeerum
Hallo, jeerum
27 September 2016 23:21
Margus Meigo replied to Vahur Armastuse Kahur's comment.
see on kultuuri saadete ja kultuuride solkimine, sedasi kasvavatki kandilise mõtlemisega inimesed üles kes kultuuride olemusest midagi ei tea ning sinna otsa taandareng nii suur, et seeni ka ei julge enam süüa mis viga parandaks.
Ja ühte maailma parimat, targimat riigikanalite võrgustikku (ilma kahtluseta, saab nii öelda), maha tegema hakata kaudselt, mis veel OMA kodumaa kanal juhtub olema, on ikka väga madal, liberaalne tegu
Ja ühte maailma parimat, targimat riigikanalite võrgustikku (ilma kahtluseta, saab nii öelda), maha tegema hakata kaudselt, mis veel OMA kodumaa kanal juhtub olema, on ikka väga madal, liberaalne tegu
27 September 2016 23:19
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
kuid tooreid palju süües, siis magu toore seenematerialiga reageerides, vist millise iganes seenega, võib vahest osadel viia küll korraks, kuid see enamasti ka kasuks.
27 September 2016 23:11
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
ei ta vii
27 September 2016 23:10
Margus Meigo commented on Keidi Falkenberg's photo.
MIks nii kurb ?
27 September 2016 13:11
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Liivak's comment.
ja kuna tegu pole suvaliste rullnokkadega, vaid kõrgharidusega ja kõvasti tarkade ja edukate keskel aega viitvate iniemstega, siis raske uskuda, et nad sellised päriselt on, seega alaarendavad nad meediat ja meie kodumaad meelega, heameelega vb isegi, ja see on #inimsusevastanekuritegu mida oma kodumaa vastu tasub võtta isiklikult.
need kellel ei ole jutu ja energia annet, energia annet, sära jms, et kes võislk mida iganes rääkida, neid ei saa süüdistada.. aga sellised.. mis on nende vabandus, et SELLEGA teenib raha rohkem?
Kas see on vabandatav, veel parem, põhjus, et raha teenimise pärast oma rahavast hävitada?
Oleks kommunistlik või liberaalne võrdõiguslik vms misjoon, siis arusaadev, teeb tööd.. aga kas siis raha on põhjus? Kui madal on see?
Või mis see põhjus siis on ?
need kellel ei ole jutu ja energia annet, energia annet, sära jms, et kes võislk mida iganes rääkida, neid ei saa süüdistada.. aga sellised.. mis on nende vabandus, et SELLEGA teenib raha rohkem?
Kas see on vabandatav, veel parem, põhjus, et raha teenimise pärast oma rahavast hävitada?
Oleks kommunistlik või liberaalne võrdõiguslik vms misjoon, siis arusaadev, teeb tööd.. aga kas siis raha on põhjus? Kui madal on see?
Või mis see põhjus siis on ?
27 September 2016 06:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But he actually knows better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4
27 September 2016 06:35
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Liivak's comment.
Billy küsimus selle osas, "Kus on see koht, kus sa mõtlemas käid, kohtume seal"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoCezQAF5AA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoCezQAF5AA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoCezQAF5AA
27 September 2016 06:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Everything is fine.. why did i even think of it... ()
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crjrWF-RRlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crjrWF-RRlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crjrWF-RRlg
27 September 2016 06:23
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Liivak's comment.
Hea huumori näide on Bill Hicks, George Carlin George Bush, Edgar Savisaar, Louis CK jms
Mitte kui paar eputrillat räägivad inimestega nagu nad on 4 aastased kuid seda ka neid ilma soovita arendada.
Mitte kui paar eputrillat räägivad inimestega nagu nad on 4 aastased kuid seda ka neid ilma soovita arendada.
27 September 2016 06:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"No one is hearing your white friend worry about..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOwjtNEoRYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOwjtNEoRYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOwjtNEoRYg
27 September 2016 05:58
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Liivak's comment.
vb ma juhtusin vale osa vaatama või huumorist teine arusaam.
Igatahes need need samad mehed kes uue aasta showsid teevad ja viktoriini saateid, ja hea huumor nüüd selline kekutamine mis mõtteid kõrgemale või targemale, tõsisemale tasemele ei vii, see nüüd küll pole olnud
Igatahes need need samad mehed kes uue aasta showsid teevad ja viktoriini saateid, ja hea huumor nüüd selline kekutamine mis mõtteid kõrgemale või targemale, tõsisemale tasemele ei vii, see nüüd küll pole olnud
27 September 2016 05:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lihtsalt, et oleks mingi lambi vennad, labi põhjusel.. mitte võimekast telejaamast.. jms,
kuid nagu.. ootan niisama raha tegijatelt liiga palju ja võtan telet tõsisemalt kui osad seda näha soovivad.. lihtsalt, see ju väga võimas võimalus ja potensiaal mida kõike teha saaks... inimkonna jaoks kauslikku sellise võimalusega.. ja siis niisama vuristatakse miski saade kokku mis inimkonda palju edasi ei vii... mille sarnaseid ja samas versiooni paremaid on veel enne ammu palju tehtud muudel maadel ja... oeh jah.. Eestlastele ikka sobib korgem tase..
Kuid samas igal asjal oma koht ,las see siis jääda vundamendiks, selleks milleks vaja oli, mille peale päris saateid saab ehitada, neid mida see linn ja kõik muu ameerika tegelikult pakkus ja pakub.
kuid nagu.. ootan niisama raha tegijatelt liiga palju ja võtan telet tõsisemalt kui osad seda näha soovivad.. lihtsalt, see ju väga võimas võimalus ja potensiaal mida kõike teha saaks... inimkonna jaoks kauslikku sellise võimalusega.. ja siis niisama vuristatakse miski saade kokku mis inimkonda palju edasi ei vii... mille sarnaseid ja samas versiooni paremaid on veel enne ammu palju tehtud muudel maadel ja... oeh jah.. Eestlastele ikka sobib korgem tase..
Kuid samas igal asjal oma koht ,las see siis jääda vundamendiks, selleks milleks vaja oli, mille peale päris saateid saab ehitada, neid mida see linn ja kõik muu ameerika tegelikult pakkus ja pakub.
27 September 2016 01:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ei teadnutki, kumb oli hullem, kas 2-3 minutit sunniviisilist reklaami ära kannatada videot edasi kerides, või avastades peale reklaami , et et polnud eriti mõtet kannatada
27 September 2016 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
But yes, god do prefers comfortable clothes . )
26 September 2016 15:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Okey, 1/3 of the text is at least valuable,
less then 1/5 is in direction of not valuable expression, or in a format that can be read majority in ways that can harm collective needed evolution (as of the to plain ctitisism about christiany and about sexual union part, that might be completly wrong, in extreme ways in the end.. even tho, technically safer and better liek that, but will get people off the point about joining in to proper love related to A woman-huspand ).
Not high enought to explain that right now, but will keep tahat as a correction note
less then 1/5 is in direction of not valuable expression, or in a format that can be read majority in ways that can harm collective needed evolution (as of the to plain ctitisism about christiany and about sexual union part, that might be completly wrong, in extreme ways in the end.. even tho, technically safer and better liek that, but will get people off the point about joining in to proper love related to A woman-huspand ).
Not high enought to explain that right now, but will keep tahat as a correction note
26 September 2016 15:43
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Ellujäämine = lahkumine Euroliidust
maailm on nii punaseks muutund, et seda vaadatakse osade poolt nagu miinust.. raske neil on selliste keskel26 September 2016 01:00
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Ellujäämine = lahkumine Euroliidust
Normaalne, mina ka26 September 2016 00:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sellele inimesele ka Fred jussi saated lemmikud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbMBkDWsBvc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbMBkDWsBvc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbMBkDWsBvc
25 September 2016 19:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
isegi postimees on riigivastase liberaalse vaimuga liitunud siin paaril korral silma jäänud..., kuhu sedasi jõudnud oleme... õnneks mitte veel hukatusse.
Vähemalt ei saanud päris juurteta liberaal Allar Jõks etteotsa (targa inimesena ehk ta ka ise selle üle südames õnnelik, sest ju ta teab mis moodi teda siis kasutama oleks hakatud...),
Allar ju hoiatuseks meie rahvale siiralt ütles ise oma sõnadega, et tema soovib olla erapooletu (et ei ole Eesti südame ega Jumala soovide poolt ühesõnaga, vaid taandab pätid ja õiged, elu ja hävingu ühele samale väärtuse tasandile kus Õiged peavad kKurjade soovidega arvestama hakkama).
// viimane osa on selgituseks tõlgendus mida selline käitumine tähendab reaalsuses /
Seega oli ka see õnne päev, arvestades selle maagia ja pideva nõiakunsti (ma nende inimestega lävin ka, kus noist asjadest avalikul räägivad)
ning FBS psüholoogide pidevat tööd, kus nad eeldasid kindlat võitu kuna riigirahvapoolne meelsus oli alla igasugust arvestust viidud,
kuid õnneks enesekindel ülbus ei viinud pärale... 2020 neks on vaja saada riikide otsa noil Liberaalid (või liberaalide, punaste usuvastaliste poolt kontrollitavad konservatiivid) jms, et korraga suured muudatused üle maakera ära teha.. ja Eesti nüüd siin neil Skype maana jalus.. ei saa jägu.. häbiväärne neile. Eks nad nüüd võta end kokku, eks ka me pea võtma..
2020 ajal VÄGA suured muudatused nii kosmoses, EU's UN'is kui mites tehnoloogia vallas samal ajal aktiviseeritakse ja siis vaja jätta mulje, nagu tõuke edasi andsid viisnurgad, ning, et keegi vahele ei tuleks rääkima muud moodi kui nõustudes.
Vähemalt ei saanud päris juurteta liberaal Allar Jõks etteotsa (targa inimesena ehk ta ka ise selle üle südames õnnelik, sest ju ta teab mis moodi teda siis kasutama oleks hakatud...),
Allar ju hoiatuseks meie rahvale siiralt ütles ise oma sõnadega, et tema soovib olla erapooletu (et ei ole Eesti südame ega Jumala soovide poolt ühesõnaga, vaid taandab pätid ja õiged, elu ja hävingu ühele samale väärtuse tasandile kus Õiged peavad kKurjade soovidega arvestama hakkama).
// viimane osa on selgituseks tõlgendus mida selline käitumine tähendab reaalsuses /
Seega oli ka see õnne päev, arvestades selle maagia ja pideva nõiakunsti (ma nende inimestega lävin ka, kus noist asjadest avalikul räägivad)
ning FBS psüholoogide pidevat tööd, kus nad eeldasid kindlat võitu kuna riigirahvapoolne meelsus oli alla igasugust arvestust viidud,
kuid õnneks enesekindel ülbus ei viinud pärale... 2020 neks on vaja saada riikide otsa noil Liberaalid (või liberaalide, punaste usuvastaliste poolt kontrollitavad konservatiivid) jms, et korraga suured muudatused üle maakera ära teha.. ja Eesti nüüd siin neil Skype maana jalus.. ei saa jägu.. häbiväärne neile. Eks nad nüüd võta end kokku, eks ka me pea võtma..
2020 ajal VÄGA suured muudatused nii kosmoses, EU's UN'is kui mites tehnoloogia vallas samal ajal aktiviseeritakse ja siis vaja jätta mulje, nagu tõuke edasi andsid viisnurgad, ning, et keegi vahele ei tuleks rääkima muud moodi kui nõustudes.
25 September 2016 17:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
isegi postimees on riigivastase liberaalse vaimuga liitunud, kuhu sedasi jõuame.
25 September 2016 17:36
Margus Meigo commented on Ardo Ojasalu's post.
Valimiskogus ei pruugi olla suurt viga, asi on EKRE ja KE ketratud riigi vastases kampaanias mida Tallinna TV ja ka enamuse muu meedia kaudu ketratud on hooksalt paar aastat, igas tasemes, iga nooreni.
Kurb, et sellise riigivastase tegevusega, kus inimesed võivad meedias riigi esindejatena, töölistena, riiki mustata oma rahva ees pole miskit peale hakata, kuna need agentuurid pole kativiseeritud, mis kodumaa vastaselt tegelevaid korrale instrueeriks.
Demokraatia ikka lubab sellist jamadust, kui elementaarsed vaimulikud või maalised juured inimestel kärbitud on.
Ühed mängivad kabet teised malet sama laua peal.. nii ei saa ju
Kurb, et sellise riigivastase tegevusega, kus inimesed võivad meedias riigi esindejatena, töölistena, riiki mustata oma rahva ees pole miskit peale hakata, kuna need agentuurid pole kativiseeritud, mis kodumaa vastaselt tegelevaid korrale instrueeriks.
Demokraatia ikka lubab sellist jamadust, kui elementaarsed vaimulikud või maalised juured inimestel kärbitud on.
Ühed mängivad kabet teised malet sama laua peal.. nii ei saa ju
25 September 2016 17:35
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek Tarand's comment.
Nii Ekre (vaimselt keskerakonna-vene kandoom, valitsuse keeramiseks), sotsialistid kui keskerakonna tipp toetavad SIND kindlalt rohkem kui vanad parempoolsed tegijad, mis moodi Sul jätkub jultumust teisi kommunistideks kutsuda indrek?
25 September 2016 15:23
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek Tarand's comment.
indrek, Siim on ikkagi see Hingeline, Eestluse mehelikum pool ja Sina Kommunistlikult Greeka-Rooma mõtlemise suunaline kui nüüd ausalt Vaimutegude ja olemuse põhjal rääkida.
(ja maises mõttes; rääkimise tooni, käitumist ja mõtlemise versiooni arvestada, et kes teiest kahest on lähemal progresiivsele Liberaalsele Vabamüürlusele, kes tegelevad 'peidu-punastena' kodumaa valitsuse vastu susimisega, strateegiatega, mustamisega, üleolevusega maamehelisuse lammutamisega, mõistmata milline karuteene see Kogu riigi rahvale on, kes iseenesest EI muuda arvamusi üleöö millega harjutatakse, isegi kui inimesed vahetuvad).
Seega tegeled kodumaavastalise tegevusega.
Mis on muidugi perepärandi puhul kurb, kuid just sSellised (heas mõttes, sharmikad, ajalooliselt austatud, tugevad) on mustas Vaimuilmas ideaalne saak.
Meie riigi suuruse peale neid ei ole isegi väga mitut vaja.
Kuid kuna meie rahal ja lippudel olev viisnurga, pentagrammi (ka nö. maaväline võim) on psüholoogiliselt nii ainureaalsusena tunnetatav ja tuntav,
eriti Heebria, shamaanide jms mõtteviiside vastaste puhul,
siis,
selle "mõttevea" osa olles, on väga raske Sirgjoonelise, ennast õigustava lineaarse mõtteviisiga õigest Tõest aru saada, taibata, mõista,
kuna,
see kuulub moraalide katekoorjatesse, mille olemasolu puudulikus (faktide käsitluses, Olulise, nagu oma kodumaa Au ja imago hoidmise eiramine jms) teeb Nägemise ja endakriitilise loogika ebatäiuslikuks, seega levitab selle 'mõtteviiruse' kandja ka tahtmatult, autopiloodil TEGELIKKU 'uut' kommunistliku (viisnurga populistlikut) mustavat viirust mis ei pärine pühast, puhtast, ausast Eestlusest.
Et siis,
Enamasti vaadatakse pilti mida usutakse silme ees olema alati olnud, mis enda maailma turvaliselt toetanud, õigustanud
kuid
osata julgeda pildi taha vaadata teise maailma käsitluse läbi (enda Olemuse väliselt) kui to käsitlus enda olemust uues valguses näeb, Teist ENDAST potensiaalselt Õigema, ausama ja paremana Looja silmis, see juba mõttetehnloloogia mille tajumise aktiviseerimiseks läheb vaja Kõrgteadvuslike Tööriistu nagu LSD-25.
.:.
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Kuna minu jutt on nii nagu on, siis tasub siit lugeda teistel mõttega nende kolme lingi seotud tegelikke tähendusi, võttes arvesse globaalse (ainult kõige olulisema) vaimse tõe piiramise potensiaalse võimalikuse,
kes saab aru, mõistab Vägasuurelt, kes ei julge mõista, see hakkab alles tulevikus teiste järgi nägema: http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/cognition.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelics_in_problem-solving_experiment
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
(ja maises mõttes; rääkimise tooni, käitumist ja mõtlemise versiooni arvestada, et kes teiest kahest on lähemal progresiivsele Liberaalsele Vabamüürlusele, kes tegelevad 'peidu-punastena' kodumaa valitsuse vastu susimisega, strateegiatega, mustamisega, üleolevusega maamehelisuse lammutamisega, mõistmata milline karuteene see Kogu riigi rahvale on, kes iseenesest EI muuda arvamusi üleöö millega harjutatakse, isegi kui inimesed vahetuvad).
Seega tegeled kodumaavastalise tegevusega.
Mis on muidugi perepärandi puhul kurb, kuid just sSellised (heas mõttes, sharmikad, ajalooliselt austatud, tugevad) on mustas Vaimuilmas ideaalne saak.
Meie riigi suuruse peale neid ei ole isegi väga mitut vaja.
Kuid kuna meie rahal ja lippudel olev viisnurga, pentagrammi (ka nö. maaväline võim) on psüholoogiliselt nii ainureaalsusena tunnetatav ja tuntav,
eriti Heebria, shamaanide jms mõtteviiside vastaste puhul,
siis,
selle "mõttevea" osa olles, on väga raske Sirgjoonelise, ennast õigustava lineaarse mõtteviisiga õigest Tõest aru saada, taibata, mõista,
kuna,
see kuulub moraalide katekoorjatesse, mille olemasolu puudulikus (faktide käsitluses, Olulise, nagu oma kodumaa Au ja imago hoidmise eiramine jms) teeb Nägemise ja endakriitilise loogika ebatäiuslikuks, seega levitab selle 'mõtteviiruse' kandja ka tahtmatult, autopiloodil TEGELIKKU 'uut' kommunistliku (viisnurga populistlikut) mustavat viirust mis ei pärine pühast, puhtast, ausast Eestlusest.
Et siis,
Enamasti vaadatakse pilti mida usutakse silme ees olema alati olnud, mis enda maailma turvaliselt toetanud, õigustanud
kuid
osata julgeda pildi taha vaadata teise maailma käsitluse läbi (enda Olemuse väliselt) kui to käsitlus enda olemust uues valguses näeb, Teist ENDAST potensiaalselt Õigema, ausama ja paremana Looja silmis, see juba mõttetehnloloogia mille tajumise aktiviseerimiseks läheb vaja Kõrgteadvuslike Tööriistu nagu LSD-25.
.:.
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Kuna minu jutt on nii nagu on, siis tasub siit lugeda teistel mõttega nende kolme lingi seotud tegelikke tähendusi, võttes arvesse globaalse (ainult kõige olulisema) vaimse tõe piiramise potensiaalse võimalikuse,
kes saab aru, mõistab Vägasuurelt, kes ei julge mõista, see hakkab alles tulevikus teiste järgi nägema: http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/cognition.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelics_in_problem-solving_experiment
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/cognition.html
25 September 2016 15:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Andromedans (from a star system in the constellation of Andromeda) Thief
Arcturans (from the star system of Arcturus) Warrior
Binaraens (from a star system located in the belt of the constellation known as Orion) Warrior
Pleiadeans (from a star located near the cluster of the Pleiades) Wizard
Sirians (from the star system known as Digitaria, or Sirius B) Wizard
Spicans (from the star system of Spica located in the constellation Virgo) Wizard
Vegans (from the star system of Vega in the constellation Lyra) Thief
Each of these races contributed uniquely to the balance of energies needed to sustain the Earth experiment. Each race embodied one of the seven great Ray energies, and took on a particular appearance of form. That is not to say that all beings in a particular race were relegated to work with a particular ray energy or form, but that the energies of that ray and the form overshadowed the race as a whole.
The Andromedans work directly with the energies of the 2nd ray. Their race is concerned primarily with Love, Truth, and Wisdom. Cycles and rhythm are very important to them, and they have manifested this well upon the Earth. They are the custodians of the Astral Plane of awareness. Within third-dimensional consciousness, they have manifested predominantly as the African race, although there are currently many Andromedan souls in various ethnic forms.
The Arcturans work directly with the energies of the 4th ray; that of Sound, harmony, and balance. The energies of the Arcturus system support these principles well. Like the Andromedans, the Arcturans work directly with cycles and rhythms, especially as applied to maintaining the elemental balance within the Earth system. With the Andromedans, Arcturans are co-custodians of the Astral Plane, and work directly with the Vegetable and Animal races. In third-dimensional form they have gravitated to the racial/ethnic form of that which we call the "Native Americans," as well as the Siberians and Mongolians of Asia, the Lapps of Scandinavia, the Australian Aborigenes, and the Inuit (Eskimos) of the Arctic. They also, along with the Pleiadeans, manifested in the Thibetan region.
Binareans (a.k.a. Oriones), are most closely aligned with the energies of the 5th ray of Motion, Knowledge, and Science. They work very well with establishing reason and logic in the world of affairs. They also are specialists in maintaining the proper balance between Light and Darkness, and often Binareans will be found manifesting at either one of these extreme poles. With the Spican race, Binareans are the co-custodians of the Mental Plane. In their third-dimensional forms they have adapted the ethnic expressions of those beings in the Middle East, Latin America (along with the Arcturans), the Caribbbean, and the lands bordering the Mediterranean Sea (including the North African, French, Italian, Spanish, Greek, Slavic, Turkish, Syrian, and Lebanese races).
The Pleiadeans are most closely associated with the energies of the 7th Ray of Divine Law and Order, Ceremonial Magic, and Guardianship. From the beginning of the Earth experiment, the Pleiadeans were set as the guardians of the realm. Because of this function, their race had to remain fairly "pure"; that is, unaffected by the activities of the other races. Unfortuately, this concept was redefined incorrectly to mean "chosen" rather than "pure", which is pure fallacy; no one race is more important than the other. With the Vegans (who have never fully acknowledged the role), the Pleiadean race is custodian of the Etheric Plane. In their third dimensional form, the Pleiadeans specifically manifested as the Hebrew (Jewish) race. Other branches of the Pleiadean family have manifested in the Russian and Baltic Races, the Egyptian Race (later the Gypsies of Europe), the people of India, Nepal, and Thibet.
The race known as Sirians (actually from the smaller of the two stars, Digitaria) works most closely with the energies of the 1st Ray of Purpose, Power, and Will. Although a few Sirians actually manifested on Earth prior to the onset of Atlantis, the bulk of the Sirian race was the last to manifest on the Earth. The purpose of the Sirians is to act as a balance point among all the races and to guard the door to the Creative Force. Because of their unique function of being the balance point of the human race, Sirians are the sole custodians of the Celestial (a.k.a. Buddhic) plane, the realm of the Soul. Sirians may be found among all the other races; however, they were responsible for manifesting the Nordic, Germanic, and Celtic races of Northern Europe, as well as the races of Ancient Babylon, Assyria, and the Altai region of Russia. There is also evidence of their activities in Africa, particularly among the Dogon Tribe, the Hottentots of the Calahari region, and the ancient Egyptians (along with the Pleiadeans).
The Spicans are mostly closely aligned with the energies of the 3rd Ray of Active Intelligence, Economy, and Light. The race works well with these energies, as its members tend to be practical and creatively intelligent. Spicans' function is to determine the patterns underlying all things within the Universe and disseminate that information to others. They, along with the Binareans, are the co-custodians of the Mental Plane. Spicans may be found in many different racial forms, but their main ethnic heritage lies in the Oriental cultures of China, Siam, Japan, Indonesia, and Polynesia.
Of all the races, the ones most adversely affected by the Earth experiment, and who have most adversely affected the experiment, are the race known as the Vegans. This was due in part to the Vegans' never anchoring their energies in a root culture or geographic realm. The nature of the Vegans was to inspire others and to hold the goal of the experiment in full sight; working as they do with the 6th ray of Devotion to the Ideal. When the cosmic interference began in Atlantis, the Vegans were the first to succumb to its allure and thus to station the overwheming negative, manipulative energies within the sphere of Earth. Because they were to infiltrate all the other races (their roles as shape-shifters), Vegans never identified or created a root race for themselves on Earth, even after the fall of Atlantis. To this day, they remain scattered within the other existing racial forms of Earth, although their predominant racial form is that of the Caucasian. Their purpose was to serve, with the Pleiadeans, as co-custodians of the Etheric Plane, but since they have yet to fulfill that role, Pleiadeans tend to have the job almost completely to themselves.
The other two races, that of the Animal and Vegetable kingdoms, station and guard the higher, intangible planes. The Animal kingdom, with its myriad races and forms, stations the Atmic plane of awareness (Cosmic Mental), while the plant kingdom stations the Monadic (Cosmic Astral) plane. The Logoic (Cosmic Physical) plane, the most remote and abstract of the planes, is protected by the Crystals, members of the Mineral kingdom.
CONTINUED...
Arcturans (from the star system of Arcturus) Warrior
Binaraens (from a star system located in the belt of the constellation known as Orion) Warrior
Pleiadeans (from a star located near the cluster of the Pleiades) Wizard
Sirians (from the star system known as Digitaria, or Sirius B) Wizard
Spicans (from the star system of Spica located in the constellation Virgo) Wizard
Vegans (from the star system of Vega in the constellation Lyra) Thief
Each of these races contributed uniquely to the balance of energies needed to sustain the Earth experiment. Each race embodied one of the seven great Ray energies, and took on a particular appearance of form. That is not to say that all beings in a particular race were relegated to work with a particular ray energy or form, but that the energies of that ray and the form overshadowed the race as a whole.
The Andromedans work directly with the energies of the 2nd ray. Their race is concerned primarily with Love, Truth, and Wisdom. Cycles and rhythm are very important to them, and they have manifested this well upon the Earth. They are the custodians of the Astral Plane of awareness. Within third-dimensional consciousness, they have manifested predominantly as the African race, although there are currently many Andromedan souls in various ethnic forms.
The Arcturans work directly with the energies of the 4th ray; that of Sound, harmony, and balance. The energies of the Arcturus system support these principles well. Like the Andromedans, the Arcturans work directly with cycles and rhythms, especially as applied to maintaining the elemental balance within the Earth system. With the Andromedans, Arcturans are co-custodians of the Astral Plane, and work directly with the Vegetable and Animal races. In third-dimensional form they have gravitated to the racial/ethnic form of that which we call the "Native Americans," as well as the Siberians and Mongolians of Asia, the Lapps of Scandinavia, the Australian Aborigenes, and the Inuit (Eskimos) of the Arctic. They also, along with the Pleiadeans, manifested in the Thibetan region.
Binareans (a.k.a. Oriones), are most closely aligned with the energies of the 5th ray of Motion, Knowledge, and Science. They work very well with establishing reason and logic in the world of affairs. They also are specialists in maintaining the proper balance between Light and Darkness, and often Binareans will be found manifesting at either one of these extreme poles. With the Spican race, Binareans are the co-custodians of the Mental Plane. In their third-dimensional forms they have adapted the ethnic expressions of those beings in the Middle East, Latin America (along with the Arcturans), the Caribbbean, and the lands bordering the Mediterranean Sea (including the North African, French, Italian, Spanish, Greek, Slavic, Turkish, Syrian, and Lebanese races).
The Pleiadeans are most closely associated with the energies of the 7th Ray of Divine Law and Order, Ceremonial Magic, and Guardianship. From the beginning of the Earth experiment, the Pleiadeans were set as the guardians of the realm. Because of this function, their race had to remain fairly "pure"; that is, unaffected by the activities of the other races. Unfortuately, this concept was redefined incorrectly to mean "chosen" rather than "pure", which is pure fallacy; no one race is more important than the other. With the Vegans (who have never fully acknowledged the role), the Pleiadean race is custodian of the Etheric Plane. In their third dimensional form, the Pleiadeans specifically manifested as the Hebrew (Jewish) race. Other branches of the Pleiadean family have manifested in the Russian and Baltic Races, the Egyptian Race (later the Gypsies of Europe), the people of India, Nepal, and Thibet.
The race known as Sirians (actually from the smaller of the two stars, Digitaria) works most closely with the energies of the 1st Ray of Purpose, Power, and Will. Although a few Sirians actually manifested on Earth prior to the onset of Atlantis, the bulk of the Sirian race was the last to manifest on the Earth. The purpose of the Sirians is to act as a balance point among all the races and to guard the door to the Creative Force. Because of their unique function of being the balance point of the human race, Sirians are the sole custodians of the Celestial (a.k.a. Buddhic) plane, the realm of the Soul. Sirians may be found among all the other races; however, they were responsible for manifesting the Nordic, Germanic, and Celtic races of Northern Europe, as well as the races of Ancient Babylon, Assyria, and the Altai region of Russia. There is also evidence of their activities in Africa, particularly among the Dogon Tribe, the Hottentots of the Calahari region, and the ancient Egyptians (along with the Pleiadeans).
The Spicans are mostly closely aligned with the energies of the 3rd Ray of Active Intelligence, Economy, and Light. The race works well with these energies, as its members tend to be practical and creatively intelligent. Spicans' function is to determine the patterns underlying all things within the Universe and disseminate that information to others. They, along with the Binareans, are the co-custodians of the Mental Plane. Spicans may be found in many different racial forms, but their main ethnic heritage lies in the Oriental cultures of China, Siam, Japan, Indonesia, and Polynesia.
Of all the races, the ones most adversely affected by the Earth experiment, and who have most adversely affected the experiment, are the race known as the Vegans. This was due in part to the Vegans' never anchoring their energies in a root culture or geographic realm. The nature of the Vegans was to inspire others and to hold the goal of the experiment in full sight; working as they do with the 6th ray of Devotion to the Ideal. When the cosmic interference began in Atlantis, the Vegans were the first to succumb to its allure and thus to station the overwheming negative, manipulative energies within the sphere of Earth. Because they were to infiltrate all the other races (their roles as shape-shifters), Vegans never identified or created a root race for themselves on Earth, even after the fall of Atlantis. To this day, they remain scattered within the other existing racial forms of Earth, although their predominant racial form is that of the Caucasian. Their purpose was to serve, with the Pleiadeans, as co-custodians of the Etheric Plane, but since they have yet to fulfill that role, Pleiadeans tend to have the job almost completely to themselves.
The other two races, that of the Animal and Vegetable kingdoms, station and guard the higher, intangible planes. The Animal kingdom, with its myriad races and forms, stations the Atmic plane of awareness (Cosmic Mental), while the plant kingdom stations the Monadic (Cosmic Astral) plane. The Logoic (Cosmic Physical) plane, the most remote and abstract of the planes, is protected by the Crystals, members of the Mineral kingdom.
CONTINUED...
25 September 2016 06:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2. http://www.wizardrealm.com/wizards/final2.html
The Arcturans work directly with the energies of the 4th ray; that of Sound, harmony, and balance. The energies of the Arcturus system support these principles well. Like the Andromedans, the Arcturans work directly with cycles and rhythms, especially as applied to maintaining the elemental balance within the Earth system. With the Andromedans, Arcturans are co-custodians of the Astral Plane, and work directly with the Vegetable and Animal races. In third-dimensional form they have gravitated to the racial/ethnic form of that which we call the "Native Americans," as well as the Siberians and Mongolians of Asia, the Lapps of Scandinavia, the Australian Aborigenes, and the Inuit (Eskimos) of the Arctic. They also, along with the Pleiadeans, manifested in the Thibetan region.
Binareans (a.k.a. Oriones), are most closely aligned with the energies of the 5th ray of Motion, Knowledge, and Science. They work very well with establishing reason and logic in the world of affairs. They also are specialists in maintaining the proper balance between Light and Darkness, and often Binareans will be found manifesting at either one of these extreme poles. With the Spican race, Binareans are the co-custodians of the Mental Plane. In their third-dimensional forms they have adapted the ethnic expressions of those beings in the Middle East, Latin America (along with the Arcturans), the Caribbbean, and the lands bordering the Mediterranean Sea (including the North African, French, Italian, Spanish, Greek, Slavic, Turkish, Syrian, and Lebanese races).
The Pleiadeans are most closely associated with the energies of the 7th Ray of Divine Law and Order, Ceremonial Magic, and Guardianship. From the beginning of the Earth experiment, the Pleiadeans were set as the guardians of the realm. Because of this function, their race had to remain fairly "pure"; that is, unaffected by the activities of the other races. Unfortuately, this concept was redefined incorrectly to mean "chosen" rather than "pure", which is pure fallacy; no one race is more important than the other. With the Vegans (who have never fully acknowledged the role), the Pleiadean race is custodian of the Etheric Plane. In their third dimensional form, the Pleiadeans specifically manifested as the Hebrew (Jewish) race. Other branches of the Pleiadean family have manifested in the Russian and Baltic Races, the Egyptian Race (later the Gypsies of Europe), the people of India, Nepal, and Thibet.
The race known as Sirians (actually from the smaller of the two stars, Digitaria) works most closely with the energies of the 1st Ray of Purpose, Power, and Will. Although a few Sirians actually manifested on Earth prior to the onset of Atlantis, the bulk of the Sirian race was the last to manifest on the Earth. The purpose of the Sirians is to act as a balance point among all the races and to guard the door to the Creative Force. Because of their unique function of being the balance point of the human race, Sirians are the sole custodians of the Celestial (a.k.a. Buddhic) plane, the realm of the Soul. Sirians may be found among all the other races; however, they were responsible for manifesting the Nordic, Germanic, and Celtic races of Northern Europe, as well as the races of Ancient Babylon, Assyria, and the Altai region of Russia. There is also evidence of their activities in Africa, particularly among the Dogon Tribe, the Hottentots of the Calahari region, and the ancient Egyptians (along with the Pleiadeans).
The Spicans are mostly closely aligned with the energies of the 3rd Ray of Active Intelligence, Economy, and Light. The race works well with these energies, as its members tend to be practical and creatively intelligent. Spicans' function is to determine the patterns underlying all things within the Universe and disseminate that information to others. They, along with the Binareans, are the co-custodians of the Mental Plane. Spicans may be found in many different racial forms, but their main ethnic heritage lies in the Oriental cultures of China, Siam, Japan, Indonesia, and Polynesia.
Of all the races, the ones most adversely affected by the Earth experiment, and who have most adversely affected the experiment, are the race known as the Vegans. This was due in part to the Vegans' never anchoring their energies in a root culture or geographic realm. The nature of the Vegans was to inspire others and to hold the goal of the experiment in full sight; working as they do with the 6th ray of Devotion to the Ideal. When the cosmic interference began in Atlantis, the Vegans were the first to succumb to its allure and thus to station the overwheming negative, manipulative energies within the sphere of Earth. Because they were to infiltrate all the other races (their roles as shape-shifters), Vegans never identified or created a root race for themselves on Earth, even after the fall of Atlantis. To this day, they remain scattered within the other existing racial forms of Earth, although their predominant racial form is that of the Caucasian. Their purpose was to serve, with the Pleiadeans, as co-custodians of the Etheric Plane, but since they have yet to fulfill that role, Pleiadeans tend to have the job almost completely to themselves.
The other two races, that of the Animal and Vegetable kingdoms, station and guard the higher, intangible planes. The Animal kingdom, with its myriad races and forms, stations the Atmic plane of awareness (Cosmic Mental), while the plant kingdom stations the Monadic (Cosmic Astral) plane. The Logoic (Cosmic Physical) plane, the most remote and abstract of the planes, is protected by the Crystals, members of the Mineral kingdom.
The Arcturans work directly with the energies of the 4th ray; that of Sound, harmony, and balance. The energies of the Arcturus system support these principles well. Like the Andromedans, the Arcturans work directly with cycles and rhythms, especially as applied to maintaining the elemental balance within the Earth system. With the Andromedans, Arcturans are co-custodians of the Astral Plane, and work directly with the Vegetable and Animal races. In third-dimensional form they have gravitated to the racial/ethnic form of that which we call the "Native Americans," as well as the Siberians and Mongolians of Asia, the Lapps of Scandinavia, the Australian Aborigenes, and the Inuit (Eskimos) of the Arctic. They also, along with the Pleiadeans, manifested in the Thibetan region.
Binareans (a.k.a. Oriones), are most closely aligned with the energies of the 5th ray of Motion, Knowledge, and Science. They work very well with establishing reason and logic in the world of affairs. They also are specialists in maintaining the proper balance between Light and Darkness, and often Binareans will be found manifesting at either one of these extreme poles. With the Spican race, Binareans are the co-custodians of the Mental Plane. In their third-dimensional forms they have adapted the ethnic expressions of those beings in the Middle East, Latin America (along with the Arcturans), the Caribbbean, and the lands bordering the Mediterranean Sea (including the North African, French, Italian, Spanish, Greek, Slavic, Turkish, Syrian, and Lebanese races).
The Pleiadeans are most closely associated with the energies of the 7th Ray of Divine Law and Order, Ceremonial Magic, and Guardianship. From the beginning of the Earth experiment, the Pleiadeans were set as the guardians of the realm. Because of this function, their race had to remain fairly "pure"; that is, unaffected by the activities of the other races. Unfortuately, this concept was redefined incorrectly to mean "chosen" rather than "pure", which is pure fallacy; no one race is more important than the other. With the Vegans (who have never fully acknowledged the role), the Pleiadean race is custodian of the Etheric Plane. In their third dimensional form, the Pleiadeans specifically manifested as the Hebrew (Jewish) race. Other branches of the Pleiadean family have manifested in the Russian and Baltic Races, the Egyptian Race (later the Gypsies of Europe), the people of India, Nepal, and Thibet.
The race known as Sirians (actually from the smaller of the two stars, Digitaria) works most closely with the energies of the 1st Ray of Purpose, Power, and Will. Although a few Sirians actually manifested on Earth prior to the onset of Atlantis, the bulk of the Sirian race was the last to manifest on the Earth. The purpose of the Sirians is to act as a balance point among all the races and to guard the door to the Creative Force. Because of their unique function of being the balance point of the human race, Sirians are the sole custodians of the Celestial (a.k.a. Buddhic) plane, the realm of the Soul. Sirians may be found among all the other races; however, they were responsible for manifesting the Nordic, Germanic, and Celtic races of Northern Europe, as well as the races of Ancient Babylon, Assyria, and the Altai region of Russia. There is also evidence of their activities in Africa, particularly among the Dogon Tribe, the Hottentots of the Calahari region, and the ancient Egyptians (along with the Pleiadeans).
The Spicans are mostly closely aligned with the energies of the 3rd Ray of Active Intelligence, Economy, and Light. The race works well with these energies, as its members tend to be practical and creatively intelligent. Spicans' function is to determine the patterns underlying all things within the Universe and disseminate that information to others. They, along with the Binareans, are the co-custodians of the Mental Plane. Spicans may be found in many different racial forms, but their main ethnic heritage lies in the Oriental cultures of China, Siam, Japan, Indonesia, and Polynesia.
Of all the races, the ones most adversely affected by the Earth experiment, and who have most adversely affected the experiment, are the race known as the Vegans. This was due in part to the Vegans' never anchoring their energies in a root culture or geographic realm. The nature of the Vegans was to inspire others and to hold the goal of the experiment in full sight; working as they do with the 6th ray of Devotion to the Ideal. When the cosmic interference began in Atlantis, the Vegans were the first to succumb to its allure and thus to station the overwheming negative, manipulative energies within the sphere of Earth. Because they were to infiltrate all the other races (their roles as shape-shifters), Vegans never identified or created a root race for themselves on Earth, even after the fall of Atlantis. To this day, they remain scattered within the other existing racial forms of Earth, although their predominant racial form is that of the Caucasian. Their purpose was to serve, with the Pleiadeans, as co-custodians of the Etheric Plane, but since they have yet to fulfill that role, Pleiadeans tend to have the job almost completely to themselves.
The other two races, that of the Animal and Vegetable kingdoms, station and guard the higher, intangible planes. The Animal kingdom, with its myriad races and forms, stations the Atmic plane of awareness (Cosmic Mental), while the plant kingdom stations the Monadic (Cosmic Astral) plane. The Logoic (Cosmic Physical) plane, the most remote and abstract of the planes, is protected by the Crystals, members of the Mineral kingdom.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/wizards/final2.html
25 September 2016 06:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Players
Blessed are they who set out upon the Endless Quest,
Blessed are they who walk through the darkness, seeking the Light,
Blessed are they who, abandoning worldly pursuits, seek the gates of Paradise,
Blessed are they who, upon attaining the gates of Paradise, turn back,
That they may lead all their brethren to their Rightful Home,
Be Thy Ways Ever Blessed.
--excerpt from THE GRAIL CATECHISM--
Many eons have passed since the beginning of the great Earth experiment. There were nine races of beings that were asked to participate in this experiment of universal free will. Seven of these races were humanoid, contributing to the bodily structure form of that which we now know as Homo Sapiens; the human being. An eighth race consisted of beings comprising that which we now know as the Vegetable Kingdom, and a ninth race consisted of beings of what we call the Animal Kingdom. The tenth race, the beings of the Mineral Kingdom, comprise the structure of the earth itself and thus were here intrinsically.
Of the seven races of humanity, three of these races manifested predominantly as wizards (later, wizards and priests), two manifested predominantly as warriors, and two manifested predominantly as thieves. These races hailed from various star systems within the galaxy, originally within the 4th dimension. These races are:
Andromedans (from a star system in the constellation of Andromeda) Thief
Arcturans (from the star system of Arcturus) Warrior
Binaraens (from a star system located in the belt of the constellation known as Orion) Warrior
Pleiadeans (from a star located near the cluster of the Pleiades) Wizard
Sirians (from the star system known as Digitaria, or Sirius B) Wizard
Spicans (from the star system of Spica located in the constellation Virgo) Wizard
Vegans (from the star system of Vega in the constellation Lyra) Thief
Each of these races contributed uniquely to the balance of energies needed to sustain the Earth experiment. Each race embodied one of the seven great Ray energies, and took on a particular appearance of form. That is not to say that all beings in a particular race were relegated to work with a particular ray energy or form, but that the energies of that ray and the form overshadowed the race as a whole.
The Andromedans work directly with the energies of the 2nd ray. Their race is concerned primarily with Love, Truth, and Wisdom. Cycles and rhythm are very important to them, and they have manifested this well upon the Earth. They are the custodians of the Astral Plane of awareness. Within third-dimensional consciousness, they have manifested predominantly as the African race, although there are currently many Andromedan souls in various ethnic forms.
Blessed are they who set out upon the Endless Quest,
Blessed are they who walk through the darkness, seeking the Light,
Blessed are they who, abandoning worldly pursuits, seek the gates of Paradise,
Blessed are they who, upon attaining the gates of Paradise, turn back,
That they may lead all their brethren to their Rightful Home,
Be Thy Ways Ever Blessed.
--excerpt from THE GRAIL CATECHISM--
Many eons have passed since the beginning of the great Earth experiment. There were nine races of beings that were asked to participate in this experiment of universal free will. Seven of these races were humanoid, contributing to the bodily structure form of that which we now know as Homo Sapiens; the human being. An eighth race consisted of beings comprising that which we now know as the Vegetable Kingdom, and a ninth race consisted of beings of what we call the Animal Kingdom. The tenth race, the beings of the Mineral Kingdom, comprise the structure of the earth itself and thus were here intrinsically.
Of the seven races of humanity, three of these races manifested predominantly as wizards (later, wizards and priests), two manifested predominantly as warriors, and two manifested predominantly as thieves. These races hailed from various star systems within the galaxy, originally within the 4th dimension. These races are:
Andromedans (from a star system in the constellation of Andromeda) Thief
Arcturans (from the star system of Arcturus) Warrior
Binaraens (from a star system located in the belt of the constellation known as Orion) Warrior
Pleiadeans (from a star located near the cluster of the Pleiades) Wizard
Sirians (from the star system known as Digitaria, or Sirius B) Wizard
Spicans (from the star system of Spica located in the constellation Virgo) Wizard
Vegans (from the star system of Vega in the constellation Lyra) Thief
Each of these races contributed uniquely to the balance of energies needed to sustain the Earth experiment. Each race embodied one of the seven great Ray energies, and took on a particular appearance of form. That is not to say that all beings in a particular race were relegated to work with a particular ray energy or form, but that the energies of that ray and the form overshadowed the race as a whole.
The Andromedans work directly with the energies of the 2nd ray. Their race is concerned primarily with Love, Truth, and Wisdom. Cycles and rhythm are very important to them, and they have manifested this well upon the Earth. They are the custodians of the Astral Plane of awareness. Within third-dimensional consciousness, they have manifested predominantly as the African race, although there are currently many Andromedan souls in various ethnic forms.
25 September 2016 06:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Sunset and Evening Star,
And one clear call for me!
And may there be no moaning of the Bar
when I set out to sea..."
--from "CROSSING THE BAR" by Alfred, Lord Tennyson--
In August 1987, a large portion of the population of Earth participated in what was, possibly, one of the first world-wide meditations for world peace over 1 weekend. This event, called the Harmonic Convergence, was intended to help bring world peace to the troubled areas of Earth. Its affects were much greater-reaching than that, as Earth soon found out.
In the last decade of the 20th century, both the ancient and modern prophets had foretold that the great tribulation would begin; the termination of the Earth experiment. At the 11th hour, with the Harmonic Convergence, humanity successfully performed the optimal condition of the experiment.
The Great Earth experiment was this: that sentient beings with FREE WILL, placed into a condition of darkness, would by their very natures gravitate toward the Light and render conscious creation with Spirit. We proved it with a resounding explosion that rocked the foundations of our galaxy and universe, and even now the result is causing many sentient civilizations to reconstruct their models of reality.
As a result of the Harmonic Convergence, Earth was determined to be of a high enough vibratory frequency to be transformed into a 4th-dimensional reality. This process is going on around us at this time; known to many as the process of Ascension. Another way to describe Ascension is the transmuting of 3rd-dimensional matter into 4th dimensional consciousness. It is facilitated by the raising of the vibratory frequency of matter through meditation, transmutation of negative energy patterns and habits, and projection of Divine Will into creation.
Metaphysical scientists estimated that the dimensional level of Earth in the year 1996 was at 3.47; slightly below halfway between 3rd and 4th dimension. Current sources measured the dimensional level at 3.59 as of January 1999, and some areas are as high as 3.75 at the time of this writing (November 1999). Some of this shift has to do with the rearrangement of the magnetic gridwork surrounding Earth, but most of it has to do with what we, the inhabitants of Earth, have done to increase the vibratory frequency.
It may be said that the last decade of the millenium is the decade of change. Instead of the change of termination, it's the change of ascension; a much happier ending. There are those who are here who do not wish to work with the new energies and will leave, and they are to be honored for their choice; just like a friend who doesn't want to go to college after they graduate high school. College, after all, isn't for everybody. There are new entities, other members of the human family, who will be arriving here to participate in the Graduate Status of Earth, and they are to be honored for their choices and the new knowledge and energies they will bring in. Much of the intermingling of certain racial strains on Earth during the past few decades has been to create new races of expression for the newcomers, who will be taking on different tasks and responsibilities from the rest of us. It is up to us, the ones who have been here for the long haul, to welcome them and help acquaint them with Earth's ways, the same way a mentor helps out an incoming freshman at a university.
Because Earth's energies are vibrating at a much higher frequency, and will continue to do so, many changes are occurring which will affect the way magic and magical systems work. The old energies will gradually fall away from disuse, since the new energies have supplanted them; much like a new superhighway makes the old two-lane road obsolete. Many who are here now are aware that the energies are changing, and are terrified because they equate change with death. Others are confused, and do not understand how the new energies work. Many systems will change, such as astrology, tarot, runes, I-Ching, and numerology, and many who practice these systems will need to incorporate the changes into their work in order to use them effectively. Others who use meditation and channeling will find that it is extremely easy to connect in to the direct Creative Love Source. In the past, where it took much rigorous discipline, gaining total control over mind, body, and emotions, now it is a simple matter of "plugging in" and standing receptive to the energies from the Creative Love Source.
Many people do not realize that the Plan has changed; that Earth is no longer scheduled for termination. These are the people who are stockpiling goods and weapons for the "Great Shift," "Y2K", and other doomsday prophecies; who think that the physical axis of the earth will shift and displace the continents and oceans as was foretold by Nostradamus and the Hopi Land map. Others wait for the biblical "Rapture" when 144,000 souls will be lifted up to heaven, and those remaining on Earth will be terminated in blood and fire. Because many still hold onto the old energies of loss, death, and termination, there is much fear surrounding these changing times, and the the departure of the "Old Energy."
As the wizards of Planet Earth, our challenge is to move quickly into the new energies to help facilitate the task of raising the vibrations of Earth, bringing it into its ultimate destiny, that for which it was created: the Axis of All Possible Realities. Earth is to become a cosmic doorway, by which any reality that exists can be reached at its juncture.
The goal is in sight. But there remains much work to be done, and time is speeding up rapidly. If we are to take possession of this "window of opportunity" for the world, we must face the final conflict head-on. This is no earth-based war or battle, as was mistakenly foretold by the Ancients. The battle rages within ourselves, at this very hour. That which enslaved us in third-dimensional consciousness must be overcome. To face and overcome what we allowed to overpower us, we must return, at least mentally, to Atlantis.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/wizards/final1.html
And one clear call for me!
And may there be no moaning of the Bar
when I set out to sea..."
--from "CROSSING THE BAR" by Alfred, Lord Tennyson--
In August 1987, a large portion of the population of Earth participated in what was, possibly, one of the first world-wide meditations for world peace over 1 weekend. This event, called the Harmonic Convergence, was intended to help bring world peace to the troubled areas of Earth. Its affects were much greater-reaching than that, as Earth soon found out.
In the last decade of the 20th century, both the ancient and modern prophets had foretold that the great tribulation would begin; the termination of the Earth experiment. At the 11th hour, with the Harmonic Convergence, humanity successfully performed the optimal condition of the experiment.
The Great Earth experiment was this: that sentient beings with FREE WILL, placed into a condition of darkness, would by their very natures gravitate toward the Light and render conscious creation with Spirit. We proved it with a resounding explosion that rocked the foundations of our galaxy and universe, and even now the result is causing many sentient civilizations to reconstruct their models of reality.
As a result of the Harmonic Convergence, Earth was determined to be of a high enough vibratory frequency to be transformed into a 4th-dimensional reality. This process is going on around us at this time; known to many as the process of Ascension. Another way to describe Ascension is the transmuting of 3rd-dimensional matter into 4th dimensional consciousness. It is facilitated by the raising of the vibratory frequency of matter through meditation, transmutation of negative energy patterns and habits, and projection of Divine Will into creation.
Metaphysical scientists estimated that the dimensional level of Earth in the year 1996 was at 3.47; slightly below halfway between 3rd and 4th dimension. Current sources measured the dimensional level at 3.59 as of January 1999, and some areas are as high as 3.75 at the time of this writing (November 1999). Some of this shift has to do with the rearrangement of the magnetic gridwork surrounding Earth, but most of it has to do with what we, the inhabitants of Earth, have done to increase the vibratory frequency.
It may be said that the last decade of the millenium is the decade of change. Instead of the change of termination, it's the change of ascension; a much happier ending. There are those who are here who do not wish to work with the new energies and will leave, and they are to be honored for their choice; just like a friend who doesn't want to go to college after they graduate high school. College, after all, isn't for everybody. There are new entities, other members of the human family, who will be arriving here to participate in the Graduate Status of Earth, and they are to be honored for their choices and the new knowledge and energies they will bring in. Much of the intermingling of certain racial strains on Earth during the past few decades has been to create new races of expression for the newcomers, who will be taking on different tasks and responsibilities from the rest of us. It is up to us, the ones who have been here for the long haul, to welcome them and help acquaint them with Earth's ways, the same way a mentor helps out an incoming freshman at a university.
Because Earth's energies are vibrating at a much higher frequency, and will continue to do so, many changes are occurring which will affect the way magic and magical systems work. The old energies will gradually fall away from disuse, since the new energies have supplanted them; much like a new superhighway makes the old two-lane road obsolete. Many who are here now are aware that the energies are changing, and are terrified because they equate change with death. Others are confused, and do not understand how the new energies work. Many systems will change, such as astrology, tarot, runes, I-Ching, and numerology, and many who practice these systems will need to incorporate the changes into their work in order to use them effectively. Others who use meditation and channeling will find that it is extremely easy to connect in to the direct Creative Love Source. In the past, where it took much rigorous discipline, gaining total control over mind, body, and emotions, now it is a simple matter of "plugging in" and standing receptive to the energies from the Creative Love Source.
Many people do not realize that the Plan has changed; that Earth is no longer scheduled for termination. These are the people who are stockpiling goods and weapons for the "Great Shift," "Y2K", and other doomsday prophecies; who think that the physical axis of the earth will shift and displace the continents and oceans as was foretold by Nostradamus and the Hopi Land map. Others wait for the biblical "Rapture" when 144,000 souls will be lifted up to heaven, and those remaining on Earth will be terminated in blood and fire. Because many still hold onto the old energies of loss, death, and termination, there is much fear surrounding these changing times, and the the departure of the "Old Energy."
As the wizards of Planet Earth, our challenge is to move quickly into the new energies to help facilitate the task of raising the vibrations of Earth, bringing it into its ultimate destiny, that for which it was created: the Axis of All Possible Realities. Earth is to become a cosmic doorway, by which any reality that exists can be reached at its juncture.
The goal is in sight. But there remains much work to be done, and time is speeding up rapidly. If we are to take possession of this "window of opportunity" for the world, we must face the final conflict head-on. This is no earth-based war or battle, as was mistakenly foretold by the Ancients. The battle rages within ourselves, at this very hour. That which enslaved us in third-dimensional consciousness must be overcome. To face and overcome what we allowed to overpower us, we must return, at least mentally, to Atlantis.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/wizards/final1.html
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25 September 2016 06:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Journey Home
"And I know without a doubt
My heart will lead me there soon,
And we'll meet, I know we'll meet beyond the shore
And we'll kiss just as before,
Happy we'll be beyond the sea,
And never again will I go sail, sailin'..."
-- from "BEYOND THE SEA", popularized by the late Bobby Darin--
As stated previously, taking responsibility for one's creations is the first step to mastering the Form nature and escaping the prison of the third dimension. The devic beings, far from hindering us, have been steadily working all along to help bring this about as well.
How then can we, all of us, wizards (priests are really wizards, remember), warriors, and thieves bring this about? As it was the Lie that trapped us, it is the dissolution of the Lie that will free us. It is stated that "the Truth shall make us free." It is difficult to apply Cosmic Truth in a world that was fashioned on a Lie so thoroughly that the Truth seemingly goes against provable "reality", even though that reality is an illusion.
The process of Ascension, otherwise known as The Final Conflict, is not a physical war, nor the Armageddon that has been predicted for the "End Times." It is a battle that rages in every one of us on Earth at this time, as we struggle to reclaim that which we lost. It is a battle fought on the Mental Plane, the one pure plane available for us to use to pull ourselves back to 4th-dimensional consciousness.
Throughout the 3D cycle of incarnations, there have been "great ones" who have come in solely to demonstrate that the Lie is an illusion, and to point out the Truth inherent in the Creative Process. These "great ones" have no greater power than we ourselves do, yet, because they were able to pierce the illusion of the Lie and display the Truth, they were wrongly venerated as gods rather than their message being heeded. Who were they? Moses, for one. Jesus, for another. Siddhartha Gautama (Buddha), Lao Tzu, Merlin, Albert Einstein, and scores of others too numerous to mention. The saddest thing is that those who continue to support the pseudo-reality of the Lie created cults of personality around these figures to obscure the message they brought in.
What is this Universal message of Truth? It was the inverse of the Lie, based on the following precepts:
Humanity has the power to render conscious creation using any resource available, not limited to the five phyiscal senses.
The resources of Spirit are limitless and free for anyone to use.
Creation under the Divine Plan is the only true creation that can exist. The idea of creating outside of the Divine Plan is illusory, and thus cannot exist.
There is only one Will; separative wills are an illusion. Within that one Will are an infinite multitude of individual expressions.
Every individual expression is treasured in the heart and mind of Spirit.
One is responsible for one's own creations and their consequences.
Evolution and Life is infinite. The concept of finiteness is unknown to Spirit.
It is the avowal of these precepts, even in the face of seemingly unflappable illusionary "reality", that will allow us to escape the third-dimensional world and return to the realm of the 4th dimension, our true home. Nothing that has ever been rendered in this world using only the 3D consciousness has ever amounted to anything. All concepts and creations of this world that have lasted are the ones infused with Truth and made in the 4th-dimensional consciousness.
The following affirmation will help pierce the illusion of the Lie and station the Truth:
"I am a conscious Soul incarnate in lesson
and a Divine expression of Spirit.
I have the power to co-create my own reality, with Spirit,
in the Divine Plan.
There are unlimited resources at my disposal.
I am ultimately responsible for my creations.
My Will is that of Spirit; my expression of Will is my own.
I am equal with all other members of humanity.
I, like Spirit, am Infinite. I have no beginning nor end.
I simply exist. I AM."
All of Humanity has the ability and desire to render conscious creation in their world. It is up to the individual to make the choice to align with the Divine Will in Active Intelligence and render conscious creation, aligned with Spirit, in his or her own reality. There are those who will still try to breach the Divine Plan and enslave us in darkenss again, but their efforst will be unsuccessful. We are no longer the children we were in Atlantis. We are not helpless, but strong and able. It is up to us to create the Reality that will bring this world, this Blessed World beyond all others, into the destiny it has earned the right to claim: the Ascension of Earth into the Realm of All Possible Realities. Then the elemental realms will again unite into their ultimate expressions of Light (Photonic), Love (Hydraulic), and Power (Celestial), and then shall Selah and See-La-Aum be once again united as one. What greater glory can there be?
The future of Earth is ours, as it has always been. It's time for us to claim it.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/wizards/final5.html
"And I know without a doubt
My heart will lead me there soon,
And we'll meet, I know we'll meet beyond the shore
And we'll kiss just as before,
Happy we'll be beyond the sea,
And never again will I go sail, sailin'..."
-- from "BEYOND THE SEA", popularized by the late Bobby Darin--
As stated previously, taking responsibility for one's creations is the first step to mastering the Form nature and escaping the prison of the third dimension. The devic beings, far from hindering us, have been steadily working all along to help bring this about as well.
How then can we, all of us, wizards (priests are really wizards, remember), warriors, and thieves bring this about? As it was the Lie that trapped us, it is the dissolution of the Lie that will free us. It is stated that "the Truth shall make us free." It is difficult to apply Cosmic Truth in a world that was fashioned on a Lie so thoroughly that the Truth seemingly goes against provable "reality", even though that reality is an illusion.
The process of Ascension, otherwise known as The Final Conflict, is not a physical war, nor the Armageddon that has been predicted for the "End Times." It is a battle that rages in every one of us on Earth at this time, as we struggle to reclaim that which we lost. It is a battle fought on the Mental Plane, the one pure plane available for us to use to pull ourselves back to 4th-dimensional consciousness.
Throughout the 3D cycle of incarnations, there have been "great ones" who have come in solely to demonstrate that the Lie is an illusion, and to point out the Truth inherent in the Creative Process. These "great ones" have no greater power than we ourselves do, yet, because they were able to pierce the illusion of the Lie and display the Truth, they were wrongly venerated as gods rather than their message being heeded. Who were they? Moses, for one. Jesus, for another. Siddhartha Gautama (Buddha), Lao Tzu, Merlin, Albert Einstein, and scores of others too numerous to mention. The saddest thing is that those who continue to support the pseudo-reality of the Lie created cults of personality around these figures to obscure the message they brought in.
What is this Universal message of Truth? It was the inverse of the Lie, based on the following precepts:
Humanity has the power to render conscious creation using any resource available, not limited to the five phyiscal senses.
The resources of Spirit are limitless and free for anyone to use.
Creation under the Divine Plan is the only true creation that can exist. The idea of creating outside of the Divine Plan is illusory, and thus cannot exist.
There is only one Will; separative wills are an illusion. Within that one Will are an infinite multitude of individual expressions.
Every individual expression is treasured in the heart and mind of Spirit.
One is responsible for one's own creations and their consequences.
Evolution and Life is infinite. The concept of finiteness is unknown to Spirit.
It is the avowal of these precepts, even in the face of seemingly unflappable illusionary "reality", that will allow us to escape the third-dimensional world and return to the realm of the 4th dimension, our true home. Nothing that has ever been rendered in this world using only the 3D consciousness has ever amounted to anything. All concepts and creations of this world that have lasted are the ones infused with Truth and made in the 4th-dimensional consciousness.
The following affirmation will help pierce the illusion of the Lie and station the Truth:
"I am a conscious Soul incarnate in lesson
and a Divine expression of Spirit.
I have the power to co-create my own reality, with Spirit,
in the Divine Plan.
There are unlimited resources at my disposal.
I am ultimately responsible for my creations.
My Will is that of Spirit; my expression of Will is my own.
I am equal with all other members of humanity.
I, like Spirit, am Infinite. I have no beginning nor end.
I simply exist. I AM."
All of Humanity has the ability and desire to render conscious creation in their world. It is up to the individual to make the choice to align with the Divine Will in Active Intelligence and render conscious creation, aligned with Spirit, in his or her own reality. There are those who will still try to breach the Divine Plan and enslave us in darkenss again, but their efforst will be unsuccessful. We are no longer the children we were in Atlantis. We are not helpless, but strong and able. It is up to us to create the Reality that will bring this world, this Blessed World beyond all others, into the destiny it has earned the right to claim: the Ascension of Earth into the Realm of All Possible Realities. Then the elemental realms will again unite into their ultimate expressions of Light (Photonic), Love (Hydraulic), and Power (Celestial), and then shall Selah and See-La-Aum be once again united as one. What greater glory can there be?
The future of Earth is ours, as it has always been. It's time for us to claim it.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/wizards/final5.html
http://www.wizardrealm.com/wizards/final5.html
25 September 2016 06:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Remember that it is you who is in control, with a physical dense body. You have the power to dismiss or keep any spirit who is around you. Be aware of this power, and be careful not to abuse it, but use it consciously and without fear as a protective device for you and your spirit helpers. When a spirit entity approaches you and you are aware of it, do not react from fear, but rather from a detached sense of Self and of curiosity. Ask the spirit who he or she is, and what their purpose is in your life. Remember, just being a friend is a noble purpose! (Even though gender is a physical dense illusion, spirits will manifest as one gender or the other in order to interact with us).
A good test of spirit caliber is to ask them if they have "feet." This may seem silly, but dark, nonhuman entities on the non-dense planes cannot manifest feet the way human spirits can. Some human spirits, in despair, have cut off their astral "feet" in an attempt at psychic or spiritual suicide. One's feet are one's spiritual receptors; the grounding aspect that connects us all to the "one life." The cutting off of one's feet is analogous to cutting off the cord to a lamp or an appliance; the lamp or appliance is still there, but no power can get through. These entities have deep-seated problems, and, while one may feel compassion for them and send them healing energy, it is best not to invite their energies around one for too long until they have healed themselves and reattached to the "one life." The other, dark, invading, non-human entities are themselves fearful, for with the onset of the new energies, their existence is doomed. They may masquerade as a "friend" for some time, but as the Bible says, "by their deeds shall ye know them." These are the entities that never had feet because they were never part of the One Life to begin with. In medieval legend, it is said you can identify the devil by his feet because he has cloven hoofs. I say that you can identify any demon by his LACK of feet; seen astrally, their lower parts look like twisted, malformed, vaporous, conic trunks ending in a point.
I urge all of you to begin to work with your spirit guides (and all humans have at least one, if not more), to help you learn and grow spiritually and joyfully. One's life guide will never leave, no matter what, although he or she may retreat for a while if the person is having difficulty adjusting to their spirit's reality. One's subsidiary and auxilliary guides, however, are not "contracted" and may leave if threatened or ordered to do so. Be careful not to shove one's spirits away, but gently explore why they are there with you and what they have to offer you (among other things, an abundance of love.)
A good test of spirit caliber is to ask them if they have "feet." This may seem silly, but dark, nonhuman entities on the non-dense planes cannot manifest feet the way human spirits can. Some human spirits, in despair, have cut off their astral "feet" in an attempt at psychic or spiritual suicide. One's feet are one's spiritual receptors; the grounding aspect that connects us all to the "one life." The cutting off of one's feet is analogous to cutting off the cord to a lamp or an appliance; the lamp or appliance is still there, but no power can get through. These entities have deep-seated problems, and, while one may feel compassion for them and send them healing energy, it is best not to invite their energies around one for too long until they have healed themselves and reattached to the "one life." The other, dark, invading, non-human entities are themselves fearful, for with the onset of the new energies, their existence is doomed. They may masquerade as a "friend" for some time, but as the Bible says, "by their deeds shall ye know them." These are the entities that never had feet because they were never part of the One Life to begin with. In medieval legend, it is said you can identify the devil by his feet because he has cloven hoofs. I say that you can identify any demon by his LACK of feet; seen astrally, their lower parts look like twisted, malformed, vaporous, conic trunks ending in a point.
I urge all of you to begin to work with your spirit guides (and all humans have at least one, if not more), to help you learn and grow spiritually and joyfully. One's life guide will never leave, no matter what, although he or she may retreat for a while if the person is having difficulty adjusting to their spirit's reality. One's subsidiary and auxilliary guides, however, are not "contracted" and may leave if threatened or ordered to do so. Be careful not to shove one's spirits away, but gently explore why they are there with you and what they have to offer you (among other things, an abundance of love.)
25 September 2016 06:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
st as the molecules of water express themselves in three forms, solid (ice), liquid (water), and gas (vapor or steam), so does humanity express itself in a multitude of forms. These forms are not limited to the third dimension, otherwise known as Physical Dense. This state of existence would be likened unto ice; solid, opaque, unyielding, and ephemeral. For the bulk of humanity in existence today, this is all that is known because it is all that is perceived by the five physical senses, and we as a race of beings, in general, have been conditioned to disbelieve anything we cannot measure with the five senses of smell, touch, taste, hearing, and vision. However, just like water, Humanity exists in two other states as well.
Above the realm of the dense matter exists the Physical Etheric realm, or the realm of the Ascended ones. Having obtained mastery over the form nature, these beings are no longer split between pure spirit (likened unto vapor) and pure matter (likened unto ice), but can flow evenly between these two extremes (likened unto liquid). Many of the ascended ones whom we now view as "saints" or as god-forms of antiquity exist here. No longer needing to incarnate into the 3rd dimensional realm of dense matter, these beings interact from the Etheric (physical nondense) realm into both physical dense and into the realm of emotions (astral), as well as the mental realms and higher. Unlike dense incarnation, those beings in Physical Etheric have transcended the need for death and rebirth, and thus rebuild and replenish their equipment constantly. These are the non-corporeals.
In addition, there is the realm of Spirit, the life-force of humanity, who, when not in incarnation, exist as persona-forms on the astral and physical non-dense planes of awareness. Depending upon the level of mastery and enlightenment these beings have attained determine largely upon how much interaction they can have with the other planes of awareness, including the Physical Dense plane. These spirits, although not yet ascended (and thus still subject to the wheel of death and rebirth), are the same as you and I are in between incarnations. The highest level of these discarnate entities enjoys interacting directly with those of us in incarnation through spirit guardianship. Like summer school to accelerated students, these spirits take the opportunity to work through existing karma by helping others with their karmic issues. Quite often, there will be strong karmic ties (and that is quite often positive!) between spirit guides and their physical partners. The relationship is one that should be based in perfect love and perfect trust. Unfortunately, this is quite often not the case, and it is often the spirit, the discarnate entity, that gets "shafted," so to speak.
All too often, physical dense beings, out of fear, ignorance, and/or thoughtlessness, abandon their spirit guides. This often happens when the spirit first attempts to make contact and in fear, the person recoils and tells the spirit to "go away," often quite vehemently. There are many reasons for this: lingering superstitious fear of ghostly or invading entities, fear of demonic possession, indoctrination by one's religious beliefs that communing with otherworld entities is "sinful" and/or "of the devil," or fear that one is going "crazy" or becoming schizophrenic or developing multiple personalities. It is a sad commentary upon our society when we react to anything new or different with fear and repulsion rather than with wonder and curiosity.
The trend of "abandoning spirits" is increasing, sadly, not because humanity is less enlightened than it was, but because, ironically, humanity is more enlightened. As humanity en masse raises its vibratory level, and the level of the Earth as well, the veil between the dense and non-dense worlds becomes less and less.nbsp; With this lifting of the veil, spirits may be perceived by even members of humanity whose vibratory level is not as high as the average level of humanity. It is these people who, out of their fear and ignorance, abandon their spirits, not knowing from where they originate or the love that they have to bring. Because of this, there are many "orphaned" or "homeless" spirit guides on the non-dense planes of matter that are very sad and depressed, thinking it was "their fault" that the contact didn't work. Many of these spirits already suffer from a low self-esteem because the ego is lessened in the non-dense world.
The lesson to be learned here is not to fear or abandon your spirit guides. They come to you in perfect love and perfect trust. One of the truest axioms of the universe is that that which you put out returns to you; that is, you cannot attract negative, hostile, or invading entities to you unless you are putting out highly negative, hostile, or dominating/controlling energies to those around you. If you find yourself constantly surrounded by negative entities who seek to dominate and repress you or belittle you, it may be time to take a good, long look inward and clean up your own inner "house" before you seek to make contact with the spirit world. This is not to say that you will never run into negativity if you constantly put out positive energies. Sometimes, negative entities may manifest themselves in your life in order to be healed; they need what you have to offer.nbsp; In such a case, bless them, send them love, and then send them on their way, and don't dwell on the encounter. If you are truly putting out positive, love-filled energies, you will be surrounded by those types of entities who will seek you out because of your love-force.
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Above the realm of the dense matter exists the Physical Etheric realm, or the realm of the Ascended ones. Having obtained mastery over the form nature, these beings are no longer split between pure spirit (likened unto vapor) and pure matter (likened unto ice), but can flow evenly between these two extremes (likened unto liquid). Many of the ascended ones whom we now view as "saints" or as god-forms of antiquity exist here. No longer needing to incarnate into the 3rd dimensional realm of dense matter, these beings interact from the Etheric (physical nondense) realm into both physical dense and into the realm of emotions (astral), as well as the mental realms and higher. Unlike dense incarnation, those beings in Physical Etheric have transcended the need for death and rebirth, and thus rebuild and replenish their equipment constantly. These are the non-corporeals.
In addition, there is the realm of Spirit, the life-force of humanity, who, when not in incarnation, exist as persona-forms on the astral and physical non-dense planes of awareness. Depending upon the level of mastery and enlightenment these beings have attained determine largely upon how much interaction they can have with the other planes of awareness, including the Physical Dense plane. These spirits, although not yet ascended (and thus still subject to the wheel of death and rebirth), are the same as you and I are in between incarnations. The highest level of these discarnate entities enjoys interacting directly with those of us in incarnation through spirit guardianship. Like summer school to accelerated students, these spirits take the opportunity to work through existing karma by helping others with their karmic issues. Quite often, there will be strong karmic ties (and that is quite often positive!) between spirit guides and their physical partners. The relationship is one that should be based in perfect love and perfect trust. Unfortunately, this is quite often not the case, and it is often the spirit, the discarnate entity, that gets "shafted," so to speak.
All too often, physical dense beings, out of fear, ignorance, and/or thoughtlessness, abandon their spirit guides. This often happens when the spirit first attempts to make contact and in fear, the person recoils and tells the spirit to "go away," often quite vehemently. There are many reasons for this: lingering superstitious fear of ghostly or invading entities, fear of demonic possession, indoctrination by one's religious beliefs that communing with otherworld entities is "sinful" and/or "of the devil," or fear that one is going "crazy" or becoming schizophrenic or developing multiple personalities. It is a sad commentary upon our society when we react to anything new or different with fear and repulsion rather than with wonder and curiosity.
The trend of "abandoning spirits" is increasing, sadly, not because humanity is less enlightened than it was, but because, ironically, humanity is more enlightened. As humanity en masse raises its vibratory level, and the level of the Earth as well, the veil between the dense and non-dense worlds becomes less and less.nbsp; With this lifting of the veil, spirits may be perceived by even members of humanity whose vibratory level is not as high as the average level of humanity. It is these people who, out of their fear and ignorance, abandon their spirits, not knowing from where they originate or the love that they have to bring. Because of this, there are many "orphaned" or "homeless" spirit guides on the non-dense planes of matter that are very sad and depressed, thinking it was "their fault" that the contact didn't work. Many of these spirits already suffer from a low self-esteem because the ego is lessened in the non-dense world.
The lesson to be learned here is not to fear or abandon your spirit guides. They come to you in perfect love and perfect trust. One of the truest axioms of the universe is that that which you put out returns to you; that is, you cannot attract negative, hostile, or invading entities to you unless you are putting out highly negative, hostile, or dominating/controlling energies to those around you. If you find yourself constantly surrounded by negative entities who seek to dominate and repress you or belittle you, it may be time to take a good, long look inward and clean up your own inner "house" before you seek to make contact with the spirit world. This is not to say that you will never run into negativity if you constantly put out positive energies. Sometimes, negative entities may manifest themselves in your life in order to be healed; they need what you have to offer.nbsp; In such a case, bless them, send them love, and then send them on their way, and don't dwell on the encounter. If you are truly putting out positive, love-filled energies, you will be surrounded by those types of entities who will seek you out because of your love-force.
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25 September 2016 06:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Likewise, the ancient Norse cosmology consisted of Nine Worlds, each created as a function of the Divine Expressions. These worlds are:
ASGARD
Air of Air
(Pure Celestial)
Home of the Aesir; the Sky Gods; Logoic Plane
VANAHEIM
Water of Air
(Celestial Hydraulic)
Home of the Vans; Nature Gods; the Monadic
ALFHEIM
Light of Air
(Celestial Photonic)
Lothlorien, Home of the Elves; the Atmic/Mental
MIDGARD
Light of Light
(Pure Photonic)
Physical Etheric; Home of Man
MUSPELHEIM
Air of Light
(Photonic Celestial)
Realm of
Elemental "Fire";
the Astral/
Emotional
SVARTALF- HEIM
Water of Light (Photonic Hydraulic)
Realm of the Dwarves;
Physical Dense
HEL
Water of Water
(Pure Hydraulic)
Realm of the Subconscious Mind; Lower Astral
NIFELHEIM
Light of Water
(Hydraulic Photonic)
Realm of Elemental Ice;
the Concrete Mind
JOTUNHEIM
Air of Water
(Hydraulic Celestial)
Realm of the Giants; the Outlands
So it goes, with the various cosmologies and systems of creation. The two used as examples, the Hebraic and Norse creation myths, are the most representative of the true Triadic Harmonium; indicating that these ancient cultures did understand the true nature of that which we call the Elemental Forces.
What then does this mean to us? As we approach Ascension, it is necessary that we begin to work consciously with the Creative Process. Most of this process takes place at the level of the Soul, and at the Soul's level, we need to understand the nature of the Triadic Harmonium and how it manifests creation. All creative magic arises from the proportional interaction of these three realms. The older, third-dimensional energies incorporated the illusion of the four physical elements. Magic rendered from this perspective manifested creations of duality; both light and dark. Because Light (Photonic Realm) is present in all of creation, darkness is therefore an illusion; it does not exist except in the illusory world of third dimensional reality. It is this illusion of duality that gives rise to the "Dweller on the Threshold"; the negative shadowy manifestation of third-dimensional creation outside of Conscious Co-Creation with Spirit.
Approaching creation from the presence of the Triadic Harmonium of Celestial (Sound, Air), Photonic (Light, Firearth), and Hydraulic (Water) expressions, we attain mastery over the form nature, and create within fourth-dimensional reality, where darkness and illusion can not abide. Creation made from this perspective, with Spirit in the Divine Plan, expresses Truth in its intent and perfectly manifests that which is desired.
ASGARD
Air of Air
(Pure Celestial)
Home of the Aesir; the Sky Gods; Logoic Plane
VANAHEIM
Water of Air
(Celestial Hydraulic)
Home of the Vans; Nature Gods; the Monadic
ALFHEIM
Light of Air
(Celestial Photonic)
Lothlorien, Home of the Elves; the Atmic/Mental
MIDGARD
Light of Light
(Pure Photonic)
Physical Etheric; Home of Man
MUSPELHEIM
Air of Light
(Photonic Celestial)
Realm of
Elemental "Fire";
the Astral/
Emotional
SVARTALF- HEIM
Water of Light (Photonic Hydraulic)
Realm of the Dwarves;
Physical Dense
HEL
Water of Water
(Pure Hydraulic)
Realm of the Subconscious Mind; Lower Astral
NIFELHEIM
Light of Water
(Hydraulic Photonic)
Realm of Elemental Ice;
the Concrete Mind
JOTUNHEIM
Air of Water
(Hydraulic Celestial)
Realm of the Giants; the Outlands
So it goes, with the various cosmologies and systems of creation. The two used as examples, the Hebraic and Norse creation myths, are the most representative of the true Triadic Harmonium; indicating that these ancient cultures did understand the true nature of that which we call the Elemental Forces.
What then does this mean to us? As we approach Ascension, it is necessary that we begin to work consciously with the Creative Process. Most of this process takes place at the level of the Soul, and at the Soul's level, we need to understand the nature of the Triadic Harmonium and how it manifests creation. All creative magic arises from the proportional interaction of these three realms. The older, third-dimensional energies incorporated the illusion of the four physical elements. Magic rendered from this perspective manifested creations of duality; both light and dark. Because Light (Photonic Realm) is present in all of creation, darkness is therefore an illusion; it does not exist except in the illusory world of third dimensional reality. It is this illusion of duality that gives rise to the "Dweller on the Threshold"; the negative shadowy manifestation of third-dimensional creation outside of Conscious Co-Creation with Spirit.
Approaching creation from the presence of the Triadic Harmonium of Celestial (Sound, Air), Photonic (Light, Firearth), and Hydraulic (Water) expressions, we attain mastery over the form nature, and create within fourth-dimensional reality, where darkness and illusion can not abide. Creation made from this perspective, with Spirit in the Divine Plan, expresses Truth in its intent and perfectly manifests that which is desired.
25 September 2016 06:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Triadic Harmonium
For centuries, Man has defined Creation by four elemental properties: Fire, Air, Water, and Earth. Every form within third dimensional creation has been defined using these four elements, including Man himself. We speak of "Fiery" temperments and "Airy" personalities; of having an "Earthy" nature or a "Watery" outlook.
Of these four elements, it is commonly agreed that "Fire" is the most volatile of the four. Left to its own devices, Fire will destroy rampantly; yet its purpose within creation is just as important as the other three. It is also commonly agreed that the greatest disparity in elemental function exists between the elements of Fire and Earth. Earth is virtually inert, while Fire is explosive in its energy. One wonders, after all, why this should be, when Air and Water are so balanced between their expressions of creation/destruction.
The fact that there are four elements is an illusion; one created when Man fell into third dimensional consciousness during the Fall of Atlantis some 20,000 years ago. In true Soul consciousness in the 4th and higher dimensions, there are only Three elements, and they are aligned independently of each other. These three elements comprise what is known as the Triadic Harmonium, and are known on the higher dimensions as Realms or Kingdoms of Divine Expression. These three Realms are:
Celestial Realm (Sound)
Photonic Realm (Light/Color)
Hydraulic Realm (Vibration)
The Celestial Realm is the expression commonly associated with Air, while the Hydraulic Realm is commonly associated with Water. Fire and Earth do not exist within higher-dimensional consciousness; and yet they remain, fused together in the Photonic realm, associated with the expression of Light. Light, therefore, is pure Fire/Earth (Firearth), unbroken in its expression. Light cannot truly exist within third-dimensional consciousness, and thus it was split into its two component parts; one almost wholly volatile and destructive, and one almost wholly stable and inert. That which we perceive as Light is the extrusion of that Divine Expression into third dimensional reality; which is why third-dimensional light (note the lower case "L") produces both heat (FIRE) and has weight (EARTH). Within the higher dimensions, Light is heatless and weightless.
Everything within creation exists as a function of these three realms; all three expressions are present in a particular and unique proportion for each individual form within Divine Creation. Creation arises as a natural process of these expressions; first Hydraulic, then Photonic, and finally Celestial. Nowhere is this so dramatically portrayed than in the Hebraic record of Genesis:
"In the beginning God created the Heaven and Earth. And the Earth was without form, and Void, and Darkness covered the Waters (HYDRALIC REALM), and the Face of God moved forth over the Waters. And God said, "Let there be Light (PHOTONIC REALM)", and there was Light. God saw that the Light was Good, and separated the Light from the Darkness, calling the Light Day and the Darkness Night. And there was evening and morning, the first day. Then God said, "Let there be a Firmament (CELESTIAL REALM) in the midst of the waters to divide the waters, and so it came to be. God made the Firmament, dividing the waters below the firmament from the ones that were above it. (WATERS ABOVE=AIR=CELESTIAL). God called the firmament Heaven, and there was evening and morning, the second day."
GENESIS 1:1-8.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/harmonium.html
For centuries, Man has defined Creation by four elemental properties: Fire, Air, Water, and Earth. Every form within third dimensional creation has been defined using these four elements, including Man himself. We speak of "Fiery" temperments and "Airy" personalities; of having an "Earthy" nature or a "Watery" outlook.
Of these four elements, it is commonly agreed that "Fire" is the most volatile of the four. Left to its own devices, Fire will destroy rampantly; yet its purpose within creation is just as important as the other three. It is also commonly agreed that the greatest disparity in elemental function exists between the elements of Fire and Earth. Earth is virtually inert, while Fire is explosive in its energy. One wonders, after all, why this should be, when Air and Water are so balanced between their expressions of creation/destruction.
The fact that there are four elements is an illusion; one created when Man fell into third dimensional consciousness during the Fall of Atlantis some 20,000 years ago. In true Soul consciousness in the 4th and higher dimensions, there are only Three elements, and they are aligned independently of each other. These three elements comprise what is known as the Triadic Harmonium, and are known on the higher dimensions as Realms or Kingdoms of Divine Expression. These three Realms are:
Celestial Realm (Sound)
Photonic Realm (Light/Color)
Hydraulic Realm (Vibration)
The Celestial Realm is the expression commonly associated with Air, while the Hydraulic Realm is commonly associated with Water. Fire and Earth do not exist within higher-dimensional consciousness; and yet they remain, fused together in the Photonic realm, associated with the expression of Light. Light, therefore, is pure Fire/Earth (Firearth), unbroken in its expression. Light cannot truly exist within third-dimensional consciousness, and thus it was split into its two component parts; one almost wholly volatile and destructive, and one almost wholly stable and inert. That which we perceive as Light is the extrusion of that Divine Expression into third dimensional reality; which is why third-dimensional light (note the lower case "L") produces both heat (FIRE) and has weight (EARTH). Within the higher dimensions, Light is heatless and weightless.
Everything within creation exists as a function of these three realms; all three expressions are present in a particular and unique proportion for each individual form within Divine Creation. Creation arises as a natural process of these expressions; first Hydraulic, then Photonic, and finally Celestial. Nowhere is this so dramatically portrayed than in the Hebraic record of Genesis:
"In the beginning God created the Heaven and Earth. And the Earth was without form, and Void, and Darkness covered the Waters (HYDRALIC REALM), and the Face of God moved forth over the Waters. And God said, "Let there be Light (PHOTONIC REALM)", and there was Light. God saw that the Light was Good, and separated the Light from the Darkness, calling the Light Day and the Darkness Night. And there was evening and morning, the first day. Then God said, "Let there be a Firmament (CELESTIAL REALM) in the midst of the waters to divide the waters, and so it came to be. God made the Firmament, dividing the waters below the firmament from the ones that were above it. (WATERS ABOVE=AIR=CELESTIAL). God called the firmament Heaven, and there was evening and morning, the second day."
GENESIS 1:1-8.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/harmonium.html
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/harmonium.html
25 September 2016 06:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
A Role-script (dormant portion of a Role) may be reactivated either physically, emotionally, or mentally. An occurrence which reactives a massive Role-script may be referred to as a "critical event"; something which by its very desire-oriented nature influences or changes the path of evolution in which the Essence was developing. It also doesn't matter whether the critical event was "good" or "bad", in that these are value-judgements contingent upon physical time and place, and regardless of the quality of the event, it still imprints the Role and fuels it, deterring the persona from knowing its Essence, and thus deterring alignment with its Soul. An example of a critical event could be something as devastating as rape or molestation by another, especially as a child in the formative years, or as simple as a promise denied or broken, depending upon how much of the persona's Role is caught up in the nature of that event.
How then can one hope to ever escape from the spiralling Role-scripts that keep one trapped in physical dense manifestation and a virtual prisoner of the Role? First, by identifying oneself with the Essence rather than the Body. The Body, remember, is where the imprinting occurs which then gives rise to the Role. We are so conditioned to identify with The Body, especially in our society filled with youth-preserving elixirs and potions, deodorants, hair care, body lotion, wrinkle cream, face lifts, breast implants...the amount of shelf space in grocery stores given to Health and Beauty Aids alone is a testament to this obsession with the Body. And for all the macrobiotics and tofu and bean sprouts eaten, for all the fat grams agonized over, for all the torturous exercises (which is not to say that ALL exercise is useless; far from it), for all the mutilating surgeries to enhance an "imperfect" Body, for all the millions of dollars each year poured into products and industries geared toward preserving "Eternal Youth" and promising "Eternal Life," the Body still dies.
The Essence is the one portion of the persona which survives physical death. It is the one portion of the persona capable of establishing and maintaining an alignment with the Soul. The Body, although an integral part of the persona, is merely an instrument of the Essence, just as the Essence is an instrument of the Soul. The Role, on the other hand, is not an instrument and serves no greater purpose. For all practical purposes, it should not exist. It does not serve any greater meaning, except to act as a stumbling block against the Essence. It does not facilitate lesson. It is as detrimental to learning one's lessons in incarnation as extreme astigmatism or myopeia is to being able to read. Don't fall into the common trap of accepting the Role as the "facilitator of lesson." The Role is the enemy of both the True Persona (Essence) and True Self (Soul), and must be sacrificed (transmuted) to be able to progress fully along the path of spiritual evolution.
By the process of transmuting prior karmic imprinting can one free oneself from the prison of the Role. This process of transmuting can only be done from the aspect of the Essence, receptive to the impress of the Soul. There are several mystical teachings which facilitate the process of transmutation. Nature of the Soul is one such teaching, as are the mystic teachings of Freemasonry and Roscicrucianism, among others. In addition, since the harmonic convergence of 1987, all of humanity has access to what is known as the "Neutral Implant"; a fourth-dimensional adjustment which can negate all prior and current karma and Role-scripting. Because the Role serves no greater purpose in Soul evolution, there is no problem in voiding the prior imprints which support its illusory existance. To receive this implant, all one has to do is to give the intent for it. Please note that the karmic neutral implant does NOT interfere with the Persona-Body alignment, but neither does it prevent against future imprinting.
To be able to avoid the pitfalls of future imprinting and the further development of a Role, one must move away from Body-identification to Essence-identification (and thus to Soul-identification). Development of the Ajna center (in front of the physical forehead) and the Cave (the touchdown point of the Soul, in the center of the head), is the key to aligning the Essence with the Soul, and thus being able to avoid the pitfalls of the Role.
Even when identifying with your higher self, others around you may try to pull you back down into the lower realm of relations (the Body, along with the Role) and thus re-imprint you with their negative patterns. Since the Role survives on the nature of Fear, most of these people are coming from a fear-based nature, and their Roles fear mightily when they sense you making positive change to disassociate yourself from your own Role and to consciously deactivate it. They will actively try to pull you back down into the negative Role-based patterns of relationship to protect the illusory existance of their own Roles. Allowing your Ajna center to take the "hits" for you from these people, rather than allowing yourself to be dragged down into a lower center such as the Solar Plexus, will aid greatly in deterring future role imprinting.
It is our hope that all humanity will soon be able to overcome the power of the Role, and defeat its purposeless existence, once and for all. Then, and only then, will we as a race of conscious Souls incarnate express our true natures fully within our own realm in Ascension.
How then can one hope to ever escape from the spiralling Role-scripts that keep one trapped in physical dense manifestation and a virtual prisoner of the Role? First, by identifying oneself with the Essence rather than the Body. The Body, remember, is where the imprinting occurs which then gives rise to the Role. We are so conditioned to identify with The Body, especially in our society filled with youth-preserving elixirs and potions, deodorants, hair care, body lotion, wrinkle cream, face lifts, breast implants...the amount of shelf space in grocery stores given to Health and Beauty Aids alone is a testament to this obsession with the Body. And for all the macrobiotics and tofu and bean sprouts eaten, for all the fat grams agonized over, for all the torturous exercises (which is not to say that ALL exercise is useless; far from it), for all the mutilating surgeries to enhance an "imperfect" Body, for all the millions of dollars each year poured into products and industries geared toward preserving "Eternal Youth" and promising "Eternal Life," the Body still dies.
The Essence is the one portion of the persona which survives physical death. It is the one portion of the persona capable of establishing and maintaining an alignment with the Soul. The Body, although an integral part of the persona, is merely an instrument of the Essence, just as the Essence is an instrument of the Soul. The Role, on the other hand, is not an instrument and serves no greater purpose. For all practical purposes, it should not exist. It does not serve any greater meaning, except to act as a stumbling block against the Essence. It does not facilitate lesson. It is as detrimental to learning one's lessons in incarnation as extreme astigmatism or myopeia is to being able to read. Don't fall into the common trap of accepting the Role as the "facilitator of lesson." The Role is the enemy of both the True Persona (Essence) and True Self (Soul), and must be sacrificed (transmuted) to be able to progress fully along the path of spiritual evolution.
By the process of transmuting prior karmic imprinting can one free oneself from the prison of the Role. This process of transmuting can only be done from the aspect of the Essence, receptive to the impress of the Soul. There are several mystical teachings which facilitate the process of transmutation. Nature of the Soul is one such teaching, as are the mystic teachings of Freemasonry and Roscicrucianism, among others. In addition, since the harmonic convergence of 1987, all of humanity has access to what is known as the "Neutral Implant"; a fourth-dimensional adjustment which can negate all prior and current karma and Role-scripting. Because the Role serves no greater purpose in Soul evolution, there is no problem in voiding the prior imprints which support its illusory existance. To receive this implant, all one has to do is to give the intent for it. Please note that the karmic neutral implant does NOT interfere with the Persona-Body alignment, but neither does it prevent against future imprinting.
To be able to avoid the pitfalls of future imprinting and the further development of a Role, one must move away from Body-identification to Essence-identification (and thus to Soul-identification). Development of the Ajna center (in front of the physical forehead) and the Cave (the touchdown point of the Soul, in the center of the head), is the key to aligning the Essence with the Soul, and thus being able to avoid the pitfalls of the Role.
Even when identifying with your higher self, others around you may try to pull you back down into the lower realm of relations (the Body, along with the Role) and thus re-imprint you with their negative patterns. Since the Role survives on the nature of Fear, most of these people are coming from a fear-based nature, and their Roles fear mightily when they sense you making positive change to disassociate yourself from your own Role and to consciously deactivate it. They will actively try to pull you back down into the negative Role-based patterns of relationship to protect the illusory existance of their own Roles. Allowing your Ajna center to take the "hits" for you from these people, rather than allowing yourself to be dragged down into a lower center such as the Solar Plexus, will aid greatly in deterring future role imprinting.
It is our hope that all humanity will soon be able to overcome the power of the Role, and defeat its purposeless existence, once and for all. Then, and only then, will we as a race of conscious Souls incarnate express our true natures fully within our own realm in Ascension.
25 September 2016 06:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Triadic Persona
When contemplating the problems relating to humanity en masse today, it helps to understand that the bulk of humanity is working with a triadic, rather than a dual, persona. The true nature of the persona should encompass duality, yet because of prior karmic imprinting, a false persona, which we shall refer to as the "Role", is created; a prismic illusion in form. The three parts of the Triadic persona are:
The Body: the physical equipment and lower astral and mental impulses that constitute that which is known as the physical form and is destroyed at physical (dense) death.
The Essence: the higher etheric (physical), astral, and mental impulses that constitute the True Persona, devoid of karmic imprint; the part of the Persona that survives physical (dense) death.
The Role: the "false persona" created as a function of karmic imprinting upon the Body, both in this lifetime and in past lifetimes. The Role can be thought of as the shadow self; our personal apportionment of the "Dweller on the Threshold." The Role is disabled at death, but returns in incarnation after incarnation until it is successfully dismantled by the Essence, with the aid of the Soul (the Higher Self).
While in incarnation, a Soul's persona should ideally consist of The Body and The Essence; a dual persona, which when aligned with the Soul makes a triad with the Soular body. The Essence is but one face of the Soul; each Soul has many Essences for as many lifetimes as It has incarnated. The nature of third-dimensional incarnation, however, has created the presence of the Role; the fractured persona in need of redemption; that is to say, re-absorption into the Essence. This task can only be completed in a conscious manner, and constitutes much of what is known as the third "great" initiation; that of Self-Awareness. When we become aware of our true selves, our Essence as it relates to our Soul, we have destroyed the Role, the false persona, and can take up our status as conscious Souls incarnate.
What creates the Role? It is the imprinting of astral desire energy upon the Body which gives rise to the fractured illusion of the Role. As a newborn infant in a new incarnation, the Role is existant but disabled. The Role is reactivated when new conditioning and imprinting occurs in this incarnation; which may happen within seconds after birth, or may take months or even years to activate. Depending upon how much of the Role was consciously deactivated in prior incarnations will determine the level of resistance created between the Essence and the Body by the Role in the present incarnation. In short, the Role can be expressed as: Role = Total Undeactivated Prior Karma + Present Imprinting
Thus, the Role is the sum total of all of our prior desire-nature conditioning that was not consciously deactivated, plus any new desire-nature conditioning (imprinting) aquired in the present incarnation. The Role, although an illusion in form, is an accurate barometer of the current total amount of karmic conditioning that must be deactivated in order for The Essence and the Body to work correctly with each other.
If one had to work with the entire Role in a single incarnation, it would be overwhelming. Unfortunately, there is no "stopgap" measure on how much of the Role can be reactivated. It is true that only that portion of the Role that is triggered by present imprinting is reactivated, with the remainder of it lying dormant. However, the insane asylums of the world are living testaments to the fact that all too often, too much of the Role is activated for the Essence to handle. Others seem to never enact their Roles, or deal with them, and instead project them onto others for them to handle. Such persona "vampires" are fairly common, and can actually add to our present imprinting by pulling us into their destructive patterns. Even more unfortunate is when such persona vampires exist in our own physical dense families and reactivate far more of our Role that we had originally negotiated for when planning this present incarnation. Not all of life's events are planned for by the Soul, as so many New Age philosophies espouse. Life is a chaotic rather than deterministic system, and one Soul simply cannot account for all possible variables, especially when dealing with other beings in a state of unlimited Free Will. One must plan for the greatest possible likelihood of outcomes in such a state, and hope to chance on the rest. The more experience the Soul has in deactivating the Role, generally the better off the Essence is in consciously working with unexpected events in "Freewill-space," although a highly corruptive projected Role from another can throw even an enlightened Soul-Essence into a tailspin from which it is difficult to return to a state of alignment within the Divine Plan.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/triadic.html
When contemplating the problems relating to humanity en masse today, it helps to understand that the bulk of humanity is working with a triadic, rather than a dual, persona. The true nature of the persona should encompass duality, yet because of prior karmic imprinting, a false persona, which we shall refer to as the "Role", is created; a prismic illusion in form. The three parts of the Triadic persona are:
The Body: the physical equipment and lower astral and mental impulses that constitute that which is known as the physical form and is destroyed at physical (dense) death.
The Essence: the higher etheric (physical), astral, and mental impulses that constitute the True Persona, devoid of karmic imprint; the part of the Persona that survives physical (dense) death.
The Role: the "false persona" created as a function of karmic imprinting upon the Body, both in this lifetime and in past lifetimes. The Role can be thought of as the shadow self; our personal apportionment of the "Dweller on the Threshold." The Role is disabled at death, but returns in incarnation after incarnation until it is successfully dismantled by the Essence, with the aid of the Soul (the Higher Self).
While in incarnation, a Soul's persona should ideally consist of The Body and The Essence; a dual persona, which when aligned with the Soul makes a triad with the Soular body. The Essence is but one face of the Soul; each Soul has many Essences for as many lifetimes as It has incarnated. The nature of third-dimensional incarnation, however, has created the presence of the Role; the fractured persona in need of redemption; that is to say, re-absorption into the Essence. This task can only be completed in a conscious manner, and constitutes much of what is known as the third "great" initiation; that of Self-Awareness. When we become aware of our true selves, our Essence as it relates to our Soul, we have destroyed the Role, the false persona, and can take up our status as conscious Souls incarnate.
What creates the Role? It is the imprinting of astral desire energy upon the Body which gives rise to the fractured illusion of the Role. As a newborn infant in a new incarnation, the Role is existant but disabled. The Role is reactivated when new conditioning and imprinting occurs in this incarnation; which may happen within seconds after birth, or may take months or even years to activate. Depending upon how much of the Role was consciously deactivated in prior incarnations will determine the level of resistance created between the Essence and the Body by the Role in the present incarnation. In short, the Role can be expressed as: Role = Total Undeactivated Prior Karma + Present Imprinting
Thus, the Role is the sum total of all of our prior desire-nature conditioning that was not consciously deactivated, plus any new desire-nature conditioning (imprinting) aquired in the present incarnation. The Role, although an illusion in form, is an accurate barometer of the current total amount of karmic conditioning that must be deactivated in order for The Essence and the Body to work correctly with each other.
If one had to work with the entire Role in a single incarnation, it would be overwhelming. Unfortunately, there is no "stopgap" measure on how much of the Role can be reactivated. It is true that only that portion of the Role that is triggered by present imprinting is reactivated, with the remainder of it lying dormant. However, the insane asylums of the world are living testaments to the fact that all too often, too much of the Role is activated for the Essence to handle. Others seem to never enact their Roles, or deal with them, and instead project them onto others for them to handle. Such persona "vampires" are fairly common, and can actually add to our present imprinting by pulling us into their destructive patterns. Even more unfortunate is when such persona vampires exist in our own physical dense families and reactivate far more of our Role that we had originally negotiated for when planning this present incarnation. Not all of life's events are planned for by the Soul, as so many New Age philosophies espouse. Life is a chaotic rather than deterministic system, and one Soul simply cannot account for all possible variables, especially when dealing with other beings in a state of unlimited Free Will. One must plan for the greatest possible likelihood of outcomes in such a state, and hope to chance on the rest. The more experience the Soul has in deactivating the Role, generally the better off the Essence is in consciously working with unexpected events in "Freewill-space," although a highly corruptive projected Role from another can throw even an enlightened Soul-Essence into a tailspin from which it is difficult to return to a state of alignment within the Divine Plan.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/triadic.html
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/triadic.html
25 September 2016 06:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
In general, never switch to a different alcohol after drinking beer. Beer more than any other alcohol stimulates the Crown and Ajna centers. If beer is followed by another liquor, it can attach these open higher spiritual centers with the lower emotional desire centers such as the Sacral, and can lead to anger, depression, violent or passionate desires, and even thoughts of murder, rape, or other extremely violent emotions, depending upon the original mental state the person had when s/he started drinking and the astral field of the environment. For this same reason, one should also avoid drinking wine with other alcohols, unless it is mixed with fruit juice and with a light, clear alcohol such as in a spritzer.
The quality of the ethanol is also a concern. It can be shown that in general, higher quality alcohols render less negative effects in the drinkers than those of lower quality. In short, avoid "rotgut" liquors and beers. There are exceptions to this, as I have found that Crown Royal, even being of an extremly high quality of ethanol, can produce unexpected negative effects by opening up the auric field to negative vibrations. (I think this is due more to its being a blended liquor, rather than its quality {see above}). It is safe to say, however, that a highly refined liquor, such as Stolichnaya Vodka, for example, is far less likely to produce negative effects in the drinker than would Taaka Vodka, for instance. It is true that you do get what you pay for in such instances; and in the case of lower quality liquors, you may get far more than what you paid for--to your detriment.
I have alluded to the effect of the environmental condition upon the psyche while under the influence of alcohol; predominantly about the astral field. It has been said that one should never drink alone. I say that it is better to drink alone than with people with negative energies and of lesser inclinations. Ideally, it is best to drink with others so that everyone can keep a monitor on what the others are doing; but again I exhort, be ye wary of those with whom you imbibe! If you are around people who you know for a fact to generally be depressive and negative, it is best not to indulge in alcohol around them. This is even more the case if you are highly psychically sensitive or suggestible by nature.
Not only conversation, but background music can have a profound influence upon the subtle awareness of the drinker. Upbeat music or music that stimulates the upper centers (Crown, Ajna, Throat, and Heart) is generally better to listen to than lower-center oriented music, with the exception of the Root (base) center. There are only two major centers and one semi-major center which are potentially troublesome to drinkers:
The Sacral center, located in the area of the spine closest to the reproductive organs, which controls the lower desire nature and can precipitate feelings of lust and sexual stimulation
The Solar Plexus center, located in the area of the spine closest to the stomach, which controls the power center and forces issues into pairs of opposites (you vs. them). It is considered to be the retaliatory or "vengeance" center, among others.
The Spleen center (a proto-center), located to the left and above the Solar Plexus center. The Spleen center is the center of the Life force, or Prana, which is processed here in order to connect us to the higher centers. However, when misused or over-stimulated, it can precipitate unreasoning anger and violent thoughts, which may be acted upon by the Solar Plexus center.
Music which over-stimulates these three centers, either by musical compository vibration, or by the astral field set up by the lyrics, should be avoided while drinking alcohol. Other than that recommendation, very little more can be said, since musical preference is so highly individual. What may spin someone into a depressive spiral may send someone flying through their upper centers. The important thing is to monitor how you personally are affected by the music, and to avoid certain types that repeatedly precipitate negative emotional and mental effects.
Speaking of patterns, be very much aware of patterns that form while you are drinking. If you find yourself continually drinking to excess, precipitating negative emotions while you are drinking, or drinking in situations that continually call to mind negative experiences, emotions, and mental states, do what you can to circumvent the situation. If you find that you are powerless to change the situation, do what you can to get help. There are groups available trained to help change negative patterns of drinking, and not just the traditional "12-step" programs which exhort you to give all of your will over to an external deity.
There will eventually come a time, at Ascension, when all of humanity will be able to consciously relate in the 4th dimensional reality, that Alcohol and other forms of mind-altering substances will no longer be necessary to make contact with the subtle realms. Until that time comes, alcohol and other drugs are a reality of the third dimension. Wishing them away will not make them disappear. The truly wise will learn how to work with their existence, either directly with them or in support of others who use them, and learn how to more consciously direct the effects produced by these substances to the higher manifestations, avoiding the pitfalls of the negative effects.
The quality of the ethanol is also a concern. It can be shown that in general, higher quality alcohols render less negative effects in the drinkers than those of lower quality. In short, avoid "rotgut" liquors and beers. There are exceptions to this, as I have found that Crown Royal, even being of an extremly high quality of ethanol, can produce unexpected negative effects by opening up the auric field to negative vibrations. (I think this is due more to its being a blended liquor, rather than its quality {see above}). It is safe to say, however, that a highly refined liquor, such as Stolichnaya Vodka, for example, is far less likely to produce negative effects in the drinker than would Taaka Vodka, for instance. It is true that you do get what you pay for in such instances; and in the case of lower quality liquors, you may get far more than what you paid for--to your detriment.
I have alluded to the effect of the environmental condition upon the psyche while under the influence of alcohol; predominantly about the astral field. It has been said that one should never drink alone. I say that it is better to drink alone than with people with negative energies and of lesser inclinations. Ideally, it is best to drink with others so that everyone can keep a monitor on what the others are doing; but again I exhort, be ye wary of those with whom you imbibe! If you are around people who you know for a fact to generally be depressive and negative, it is best not to indulge in alcohol around them. This is even more the case if you are highly psychically sensitive or suggestible by nature.
Not only conversation, but background music can have a profound influence upon the subtle awareness of the drinker. Upbeat music or music that stimulates the upper centers (Crown, Ajna, Throat, and Heart) is generally better to listen to than lower-center oriented music, with the exception of the Root (base) center. There are only two major centers and one semi-major center which are potentially troublesome to drinkers:
The Sacral center, located in the area of the spine closest to the reproductive organs, which controls the lower desire nature and can precipitate feelings of lust and sexual stimulation
The Solar Plexus center, located in the area of the spine closest to the stomach, which controls the power center and forces issues into pairs of opposites (you vs. them). It is considered to be the retaliatory or "vengeance" center, among others.
The Spleen center (a proto-center), located to the left and above the Solar Plexus center. The Spleen center is the center of the Life force, or Prana, which is processed here in order to connect us to the higher centers. However, when misused or over-stimulated, it can precipitate unreasoning anger and violent thoughts, which may be acted upon by the Solar Plexus center.
Music which over-stimulates these three centers, either by musical compository vibration, or by the astral field set up by the lyrics, should be avoided while drinking alcohol. Other than that recommendation, very little more can be said, since musical preference is so highly individual. What may spin someone into a depressive spiral may send someone flying through their upper centers. The important thing is to monitor how you personally are affected by the music, and to avoid certain types that repeatedly precipitate negative emotional and mental effects.
Speaking of patterns, be very much aware of patterns that form while you are drinking. If you find yourself continually drinking to excess, precipitating negative emotions while you are drinking, or drinking in situations that continually call to mind negative experiences, emotions, and mental states, do what you can to circumvent the situation. If you find that you are powerless to change the situation, do what you can to get help. There are groups available trained to help change negative patterns of drinking, and not just the traditional "12-step" programs which exhort you to give all of your will over to an external deity.
There will eventually come a time, at Ascension, when all of humanity will be able to consciously relate in the 4th dimensional reality, that Alcohol and other forms of mind-altering substances will no longer be necessary to make contact with the subtle realms. Until that time comes, alcohol and other drugs are a reality of the third dimension. Wishing them away will not make them disappear. The truly wise will learn how to work with their existence, either directly with them or in support of others who use them, and learn how to more consciously direct the effects produced by these substances to the higher manifestations, avoiding the pitfalls of the negative effects.
25 September 2016 06:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
That which we call alcohol is what is known as Ethyl Alcohol, or Ethanol, and is the primary substance used to make contact with the Etheric (Physical Nondense) plane of awareness; just above normal brain awareness. Depending upon the type of Ethanol used, the effects upon the imbiber can range from initial elation and a feeling of good-will, to that of feelings of dark despair, anger, violence, and suicide. In short, the use of Ethanol places the user fully in contact with the Etheric plane, and makes them susceptible to influences from the Lower Astral planes of awareness.
If the indulgence of alcohol is done consciously and with responsibility, and the appropriate types of ethanol are used, an effect may be rendered in which the imbiber can make contact with the subtler planes of awareness. Again, ideally this should be done only when it is impossible or difficult for the user to contact them in any other method. Used ritually, ethanol can help enhance a magical working or bring the user closer to the subtle frequencies of the spirit world.
For the standard "bar drinker," the effects of ethanol are rarely so elevated. As the alcohol from the first drink enters the bloodstream, the drinker probably does not even feel the result, and is already starting on his/her second drink. However, s/he is already in direct contact with the lower Etheric; the area of manifestation known as "outer darkness," and is susceptible to the influences of lower spiritual entities; "earth-bounds"; those who have crossed over to the Etheric but are unaware that their physical lives have ended. As the alcohol works its effects upon the user, the Ajna center in front of the forehead, the center of consciousness and the integrated Persona, detaches and "falls" from its position down to the lower centers; those of the Solar Plexus and Sacral; the areas of the "desire" nature. Without the protective sheath of the Ajna center, the person's aura is left unguarded and open to invasion by the "earth-bound" denizens of the lower Etheric plane. Many of these entities were in life addicted to alcohol and/or other substances, and seek to derive the same feeling that such substances gave them by vicariously experiencing it through the auric fields of those still resident in dense matter. If the person smokes, which is often the case in bars and lounges, the combination of ethanol and nicotine in the body is even a greater attractor of such entities; yet, the presence of smoke can also screen out negativity, if the person is of higher inclinations and knows how to consciously shield themselves.
This is not to say that every time one takes a drink in a bar that one's Will will be subjugated by hostile or addicted discarnate beings. Depending upon the strength of the person's Will and character, the magnetic strength of their aura, the astral field of the bar, their particular mood when drinking, and the type of ethanol they are drinking, the effects of the alcohol will be vastly different. Obviously, the safest place to drink is NOT in a public place, where the astral field may be rife with negativity and inhabited by earthbounds.
Certain types of ethanol, as stated previously, will produce vastly different effects. Although the combinations of different alcohols can produce unexpected results, in general, the clearer alcohols (Gin, Light Rum, Vodka, etc.), when indulged in gently and in a good frame of mind, can be used to elevate a person's level of awareness to the higher Etheric, Astral, and Mental planes of awareness. The darker alcohols (Whiskey, Dark Rum, Brandy, etc.), in general, are prone to opening up the lower desire centers of the Sacral and Solar Plexus, and tend to magnify whatever emotion is present at the time, even if that emotion is external to the drinker, on the shared astral field of the environment. Sweet licquers and Wines are less prone to open up the lower desire centers, but are the most potent for evoking and magnifying emotions, to the point of obsessing on the emotion, be it positive or negative.
Cocktails created with the lighter alcohols and high in fruit juice or water-based content are the least-risk of all in producing negative results, as long as they are indulged in a responsible manner. Beers also are a social-oriented drink and, if used responsibly, can have positive effects, or at least minimize the prospect of negative effects upon the drinker. Drinks made with cream-based licquers, such as Irish Cream or Creme de Menthe, are also fairly light when used in moderation and can produce positive results (or minimize negative effects on the drinker). Please note that the emphasis is upon responsibility; if a person drinks four or more cocktails in an hour, it really doesn't matter what s/he is drinking as the effect will be the same: the person will be intoxicated, and thereby susceptible to negative etheric influences.
Cocktails created with the darker alcohols and with a dark caramel-syrup based soda as a base (e.g. colas) are very risky in mixed environments, as they tend to throw the consciousness down toward the lower desire nature and can make the drinker susceptible to negative emotions, effects, and the possible influence of lower etheric denizens of lesser inclinations. Such drinks should be used with caution, and better in controlled settings (at home or in private parties rather than in public bars or lounges). In general, no matter what you are drinking, it is better to be in a controlled environment to minimize the effects of the astral field (the effects of others emotions in your astral space while you are drinking). Even if you believe the environment to be controlled, be wary of changes in the environment that can cause a spiral down into the lower centers. In short, be ye aware of those who are drinking with you! Others in your environment while you are drinking can be more detrimental to your mental and astral well-being than the substance in which you are indulging.
The mixing of different types of alcohol should be done ONLY with extreme caution. In general, it is best not to do it at all. Not only is it prone to make you physically ill, but any potentially beneficial effects of the lighter alcohols become magnifiers of the potential negative effects of the darker alcohols. Well-known drink recipes rarely call for the mixing of incongruous liquors. If different liquors are called for in a recipe, it is generally those that are analogous and compatible with each other (like white rum and vodka, gin, etc). Some claim that the best types of cocktails are the ones that use only one alcohol, and with few exceptions, I tend to agree with this. It is also NOT recommended to blend a dark liquor with any other ethanol, light or dark. Bourbon, for example, one of the most well-known dark liquors, should be partaken straight up, mixed with water or tonic, or mixed with a carbonated soda (preferably clear, such as the lemon-lime varieties). It is inadvisable, both physically and etherically, to mix two different bourbons together. The so-called "blended" whiskeys, such as Canadian Club and Crown Royal, while providing a very smooth taste, are also very prone to open one up to subtle negative influences much quicker than those straight Bourbons or Whiskeys.
If the indulgence of alcohol is done consciously and with responsibility, and the appropriate types of ethanol are used, an effect may be rendered in which the imbiber can make contact with the subtler planes of awareness. Again, ideally this should be done only when it is impossible or difficult for the user to contact them in any other method. Used ritually, ethanol can help enhance a magical working or bring the user closer to the subtle frequencies of the spirit world.
For the standard "bar drinker," the effects of ethanol are rarely so elevated. As the alcohol from the first drink enters the bloodstream, the drinker probably does not even feel the result, and is already starting on his/her second drink. However, s/he is already in direct contact with the lower Etheric; the area of manifestation known as "outer darkness," and is susceptible to the influences of lower spiritual entities; "earth-bounds"; those who have crossed over to the Etheric but are unaware that their physical lives have ended. As the alcohol works its effects upon the user, the Ajna center in front of the forehead, the center of consciousness and the integrated Persona, detaches and "falls" from its position down to the lower centers; those of the Solar Plexus and Sacral; the areas of the "desire" nature. Without the protective sheath of the Ajna center, the person's aura is left unguarded and open to invasion by the "earth-bound" denizens of the lower Etheric plane. Many of these entities were in life addicted to alcohol and/or other substances, and seek to derive the same feeling that such substances gave them by vicariously experiencing it through the auric fields of those still resident in dense matter. If the person smokes, which is often the case in bars and lounges, the combination of ethanol and nicotine in the body is even a greater attractor of such entities; yet, the presence of smoke can also screen out negativity, if the person is of higher inclinations and knows how to consciously shield themselves.
This is not to say that every time one takes a drink in a bar that one's Will will be subjugated by hostile or addicted discarnate beings. Depending upon the strength of the person's Will and character, the magnetic strength of their aura, the astral field of the bar, their particular mood when drinking, and the type of ethanol they are drinking, the effects of the alcohol will be vastly different. Obviously, the safest place to drink is NOT in a public place, where the astral field may be rife with negativity and inhabited by earthbounds.
Certain types of ethanol, as stated previously, will produce vastly different effects. Although the combinations of different alcohols can produce unexpected results, in general, the clearer alcohols (Gin, Light Rum, Vodka, etc.), when indulged in gently and in a good frame of mind, can be used to elevate a person's level of awareness to the higher Etheric, Astral, and Mental planes of awareness. The darker alcohols (Whiskey, Dark Rum, Brandy, etc.), in general, are prone to opening up the lower desire centers of the Sacral and Solar Plexus, and tend to magnify whatever emotion is present at the time, even if that emotion is external to the drinker, on the shared astral field of the environment. Sweet licquers and Wines are less prone to open up the lower desire centers, but are the most potent for evoking and magnifying emotions, to the point of obsessing on the emotion, be it positive or negative.
Cocktails created with the lighter alcohols and high in fruit juice or water-based content are the least-risk of all in producing negative results, as long as they are indulged in a responsible manner. Beers also are a social-oriented drink and, if used responsibly, can have positive effects, or at least minimize the prospect of negative effects upon the drinker. Drinks made with cream-based licquers, such as Irish Cream or Creme de Menthe, are also fairly light when used in moderation and can produce positive results (or minimize negative effects on the drinker). Please note that the emphasis is upon responsibility; if a person drinks four or more cocktails in an hour, it really doesn't matter what s/he is drinking as the effect will be the same: the person will be intoxicated, and thereby susceptible to negative etheric influences.
Cocktails created with the darker alcohols and with a dark caramel-syrup based soda as a base (e.g. colas) are very risky in mixed environments, as they tend to throw the consciousness down toward the lower desire nature and can make the drinker susceptible to negative emotions, effects, and the possible influence of lower etheric denizens of lesser inclinations. Such drinks should be used with caution, and better in controlled settings (at home or in private parties rather than in public bars or lounges). In general, no matter what you are drinking, it is better to be in a controlled environment to minimize the effects of the astral field (the effects of others emotions in your astral space while you are drinking). Even if you believe the environment to be controlled, be wary of changes in the environment that can cause a spiral down into the lower centers. In short, be ye aware of those who are drinking with you! Others in your environment while you are drinking can be more detrimental to your mental and astral well-being than the substance in which you are indulging.
The mixing of different types of alcohol should be done ONLY with extreme caution. In general, it is best not to do it at all. Not only is it prone to make you physically ill, but any potentially beneficial effects of the lighter alcohols become magnifiers of the potential negative effects of the darker alcohols. Well-known drink recipes rarely call for the mixing of incongruous liquors. If different liquors are called for in a recipe, it is generally those that are analogous and compatible with each other (like white rum and vodka, gin, etc). Some claim that the best types of cocktails are the ones that use only one alcohol, and with few exceptions, I tend to agree with this. It is also NOT recommended to blend a dark liquor with any other ethanol, light or dark. Bourbon, for example, one of the most well-known dark liquors, should be partaken straight up, mixed with water or tonic, or mixed with a carbonated soda (preferably clear, such as the lemon-lime varieties). It is inadvisable, both physically and etherically, to mix two different bourbons together. The so-called "blended" whiskeys, such as Canadian Club and Crown Royal, while providing a very smooth taste, are also very prone to open one up to subtle negative influences much quicker than those straight Bourbons or Whiskeys.
25 September 2016 06:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Esoteric Libation
"Why are you drinking?" asked the Little Prince.
"So that I may forget," replied the Tippler.
"Forget what?" asked the Little Prince.
"Forget that I am ashamed," replied the Tippler.
"Ashamed of what?" asked the Little Prince.
"Ashamed of Drinking!" replied the Tippler, and shut himself up in lugubrious silence.
--from THE LITTLE PRINCE, by Ste. Exupery--
With all the problems inherent in the use of alcoholic beverages, one may wonder why the subject of "Esoteric Libation" should be broached at all. Throughout the ages, however, men and women have used alcohol and other mind-altering substances to get in touch with their subtle bodies. The onset of the New Energies of Ascension are fast removing the need for using external substance to invoke mystical or altered states of awareness. In short, the way of the Shaman is becoming open for all.
However, the use of alcohol and other substances like it is still widespread; and, indulged in irresponsibly, can lead to tragedy. The purpose of this page is not to advocate the use of alcohol or other mind-altering substances, but to bring the reader to a better understanding of the principle underlying the mixing of alcohols; which ones are astrally harmful, and which ones are benign.
No other drug is as widely used--and abused--as is alcohol. Its prevalence in the global society of humanity is widespread; not a culture exists on this planet that does not, in some way, shape, or form, indulge in alcoholic beverages, although there are individuals within cultures that abstain from its use. From the vodka-quaffing Russians to the Saki-drinking Japanese; the Beer-guzzling "All Americans", Germans, and British; the Mead and Brandy-loving Norse, the Wine-tasting French and Wine-sipping Hebrews, to the Kumiss-drinkers of Africa and Mesopotamia, the Rums of the Islanders, and the Whiskeys of the moutain-born; Alcohol has its home here in this world. The brewing and drinking of beer alone goes back nearly 6000 years to ancient Chaldea and Egypt, and probably before that, if written history were available to bear such knowledge out.
One may then ask, why do people drink? There have been several reasons postulated by those who do research on alcohol consumption. Some believe it is a socialization process; that cultures who are prone to drink instill such a desire in their progeny to "be like them" and join in, or are encouraged to begin by their peer group. Others have hypothesized that the desire for alcohol consumption is genetic and can be traced back to our DNA, although evidence supporting this hypothesis has been sketchy at best; there STILL is no identifiable "alcoholism gene" or chromosome. Some claim it is racial, pointing out how certain minority races are more prone to alcoholism than others; forgetting completely that those minority races were introduced to alcohol by those in power who wished to subjugate them and render them impotent to retaliate against them (if you're drunk, you're not likely to do anything but pass out.) The point is, all of these answers may have some basis in fact, but they do NOT answer the original question. The question they answer is "why do people START drinking?" when in fact, the question is, "why do people drink?" Esoterically, the answer to the latter question is simple: people drink because the effects of the alcohol relax their dense bodies and senses so that they can make contact with their subtle bodies and higher forms. The consumption of alcohol puts one into the Alpha state of awareness, and is the same reason that people ride roller coasters: the constant moving of the point of reference on a roller coaster also thows people, even but temporarily, into an astral state of awareness. The main difference is, roller coasters generally don't give you a hangover or potentially cause you to be violent toward others.
If we as a race of people were trained in the areas of meditation and conscious contact with the higher states of awareness, we would be less prone to need the effects of alcohol or other mind-altering substances. The race consciousness of humanity, however, is stuck squarely in the physical dense reality. Very few people can open themselves up at will to anything other than the five senses. Alcohol subverts that, and can open up previously locked doors. If this is done consciously and willfully, knowing what to expect and guarding against negative results, it is good; for even those of high inclination and schooled in meditation may have unconscious blocks against contacting the spirit world placed in their psyches from past life conditioning or shielding from the negative effects of others in their environment. Alcohol for these people is a godsend, because it allows them to overstep those blocks temporarily while keeping them intact in the long run for their safety. If the indulgence of alcohol is done randomly and without higher intent, the same doors may be opened, but what may be behind them is far from what you'd expect to find on "Let's Make a Deal."
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/libation.html
"Why are you drinking?" asked the Little Prince.
"So that I may forget," replied the Tippler.
"Forget what?" asked the Little Prince.
"Forget that I am ashamed," replied the Tippler.
"Ashamed of what?" asked the Little Prince.
"Ashamed of Drinking!" replied the Tippler, and shut himself up in lugubrious silence.
--from THE LITTLE PRINCE, by Ste. Exupery--
With all the problems inherent in the use of alcoholic beverages, one may wonder why the subject of "Esoteric Libation" should be broached at all. Throughout the ages, however, men and women have used alcohol and other mind-altering substances to get in touch with their subtle bodies. The onset of the New Energies of Ascension are fast removing the need for using external substance to invoke mystical or altered states of awareness. In short, the way of the Shaman is becoming open for all.
However, the use of alcohol and other substances like it is still widespread; and, indulged in irresponsibly, can lead to tragedy. The purpose of this page is not to advocate the use of alcohol or other mind-altering substances, but to bring the reader to a better understanding of the principle underlying the mixing of alcohols; which ones are astrally harmful, and which ones are benign.
No other drug is as widely used--and abused--as is alcohol. Its prevalence in the global society of humanity is widespread; not a culture exists on this planet that does not, in some way, shape, or form, indulge in alcoholic beverages, although there are individuals within cultures that abstain from its use. From the vodka-quaffing Russians to the Saki-drinking Japanese; the Beer-guzzling "All Americans", Germans, and British; the Mead and Brandy-loving Norse, the Wine-tasting French and Wine-sipping Hebrews, to the Kumiss-drinkers of Africa and Mesopotamia, the Rums of the Islanders, and the Whiskeys of the moutain-born; Alcohol has its home here in this world. The brewing and drinking of beer alone goes back nearly 6000 years to ancient Chaldea and Egypt, and probably before that, if written history were available to bear such knowledge out.
One may then ask, why do people drink? There have been several reasons postulated by those who do research on alcohol consumption. Some believe it is a socialization process; that cultures who are prone to drink instill such a desire in their progeny to "be like them" and join in, or are encouraged to begin by their peer group. Others have hypothesized that the desire for alcohol consumption is genetic and can be traced back to our DNA, although evidence supporting this hypothesis has been sketchy at best; there STILL is no identifiable "alcoholism gene" or chromosome. Some claim it is racial, pointing out how certain minority races are more prone to alcoholism than others; forgetting completely that those minority races were introduced to alcohol by those in power who wished to subjugate them and render them impotent to retaliate against them (if you're drunk, you're not likely to do anything but pass out.) The point is, all of these answers may have some basis in fact, but they do NOT answer the original question. The question they answer is "why do people START drinking?" when in fact, the question is, "why do people drink?" Esoterically, the answer to the latter question is simple: people drink because the effects of the alcohol relax their dense bodies and senses so that they can make contact with their subtle bodies and higher forms. The consumption of alcohol puts one into the Alpha state of awareness, and is the same reason that people ride roller coasters: the constant moving of the point of reference on a roller coaster also thows people, even but temporarily, into an astral state of awareness. The main difference is, roller coasters generally don't give you a hangover or potentially cause you to be violent toward others.
If we as a race of people were trained in the areas of meditation and conscious contact with the higher states of awareness, we would be less prone to need the effects of alcohol or other mind-altering substances. The race consciousness of humanity, however, is stuck squarely in the physical dense reality. Very few people can open themselves up at will to anything other than the five senses. Alcohol subverts that, and can open up previously locked doors. If this is done consciously and willfully, knowing what to expect and guarding against negative results, it is good; for even those of high inclination and schooled in meditation may have unconscious blocks against contacting the spirit world placed in their psyches from past life conditioning or shielding from the negative effects of others in their environment. Alcohol for these people is a godsend, because it allows them to overstep those blocks temporarily while keeping them intact in the long run for their safety. If the indulgence of alcohol is done randomly and without higher intent, the same doors may be opened, but what may be behind them is far from what you'd expect to find on "Let's Make a Deal."
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/libation.html
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/libation.html
25 September 2016 05:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"I wasn't as aroused as I was concerned, for each one of em I've hurt
and every time I've been burned, I've got a lot to teach but even more to learn"
¤
I used to know this woman who had the most beautiful
tattoos on the top sides of both of her hands
she was forty three years old and as far as I know
had never yet been with a man
its not that she wasn't attractive she was beatiful
but its the way that she interacted
she was aggressively passive to the point where she
would of intimidated any mitt that ever tried to catch her
on the right hand she had a tattoo of a nude girl
she claimed it is what God resembled
but on the left she had a mirrored image of the same female
and this one she explained looked like the devil
I remember once watching her touch her own breasts
how the tattoos smiled as they stared down her stomach
as if anticipating would they be allowed to caress
the sweet flower that they both seemed to hunger (sweet flower)
now maybe I was high but it felt so right
heaven and hell both take to this womans womb
it didn't make sense how she could commence
touching herself with me wide awake in the same room
now if I've learned anything in my years (my years)
I learned I no longer believe in surprise (in surprise)
but what happened next damn near stole my tears
the tattoos came alive right in front of my eyes
they both slowly stood up and climbed off her hands
and showed me why she never took some time with a man
they climbed deep inside of this woman's garden
she closed her eyes and she gently bit her bottom lip
I stepped I left and I don't regret leaving
and I'll never forget all the things I saw that evening
a glimpse of religion a piece of coming closer
to understanding more about what intrigues me most
I didn't get turned on I just got turned
I wasn't as aroused as I was concerned
for each one of em I've hurt
and every time I've been burned
I've got a lot to teach but even more to learn
so now I keep my eyes open hoping to take in all I can
about Woman taking in all she can
and for as long as I breath i'll save a seat in my memory
for that woman with the tattooed hands
[chorus: repeat 5x till song fades]
There's good and evil in each individual fire
identifies needs and feeds our desires
as long as we keep our spirit inspired
she can bite her bottom lip all she wants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-9nbwHQPKA&list=RDp8zwE3qkhTA&index=15
and every time I've been burned, I've got a lot to teach but even more to learn"
¤
I used to know this woman who had the most beautiful
tattoos on the top sides of both of her hands
she was forty three years old and as far as I know
had never yet been with a man
its not that she wasn't attractive she was beatiful
but its the way that she interacted
she was aggressively passive to the point where she
would of intimidated any mitt that ever tried to catch her
on the right hand she had a tattoo of a nude girl
she claimed it is what God resembled
but on the left she had a mirrored image of the same female
and this one she explained looked like the devil
I remember once watching her touch her own breasts
how the tattoos smiled as they stared down her stomach
as if anticipating would they be allowed to caress
the sweet flower that they both seemed to hunger (sweet flower)
now maybe I was high but it felt so right
heaven and hell both take to this womans womb
it didn't make sense how she could commence
touching herself with me wide awake in the same room
now if I've learned anything in my years (my years)
I learned I no longer believe in surprise (in surprise)
but what happened next damn near stole my tears
the tattoos came alive right in front of my eyes
they both slowly stood up and climbed off her hands
and showed me why she never took some time with a man
they climbed deep inside of this woman's garden
she closed her eyes and she gently bit her bottom lip
I stepped I left and I don't regret leaving
and I'll never forget all the things I saw that evening
a glimpse of religion a piece of coming closer
to understanding more about what intrigues me most
I didn't get turned on I just got turned
I wasn't as aroused as I was concerned
for each one of em I've hurt
and every time I've been burned
I've got a lot to teach but even more to learn
so now I keep my eyes open hoping to take in all I can
about Woman taking in all she can
and for as long as I breath i'll save a seat in my memory
for that woman with the tattooed hands
[chorus: repeat 5x till song fades]
There's good and evil in each individual fire
identifies needs and feeds our desires
as long as we keep our spirit inspired
she can bite her bottom lip all she wants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-9nbwHQPKA&list=RDp8zwE3qkhTA&index=15
25 September 2016 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Woke up to that familiar feeling
Staring at an unfamiliar ceiling
Still got your jeans on but you're topless
Headache and the stomach feels nauseous
Grab your shirt off the bedroom floor
And trying to recollect the night before
How'd you get from the bar to this mattress?
And when you got here then what happened?
And where's the who that lives here?
In this house you wanna figure out how'd you get here
But the thought got cut by nature
Find the bathroom the gut got anger
Here it comes can't avoid it
Ain't the first time throwin' up in a strange toilet
Anyone else would leave but you?
You crawl back to the bed and fell back asleep
All we need is because
So come and party with us
Take care of you when you're passed out
Right there with you in your glasshouse
Woke up all alone with no friends
But you had to throw up again
Choke up the tears and the spit
Grab some tissue to wipe off your lips
And everything still spins
And then the chills begin
And the god please kill me right now hits
And you still don't know whos house this is
In between leftover dry heaves
You try to check out your timepiece
And you should call your job
But first gotta turn this hangover off
You dream that it's just a dream
Until the phone in your pocket starts to scream
Shut it down don't wanna hear a sound
Heavy is the head that wears that crown now
All we need is because
So come and party with us
Take care of you when you're passed out
Right there with you in your glasshouse
Hangover ain't a strong enough word
It don't describe what just occured
Lookin' at a phone full of missed calls
Probably all the people that you pissed off
Everything seems so sour
So you force yourself into the shower
Standin' up brings out the stars
And the whole bathroom smells just like a dive bar
Can't do it better sit
And let the tub be the catcher's mitt
Lay down face down
Thank god whoever lives here ain't around
Now what you need is silence
And you don't want no one to see you like this
Maybe you don't recognize it
But this is your home this is where your life lives
All we need is because
So come and party with us
Take care of you when you're passed out
Right here with you in your glasshouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s5wPO-QcVw&index=4&list=RDp8zwE3qkhTA
Staring at an unfamiliar ceiling
Still got your jeans on but you're topless
Headache and the stomach feels nauseous
Grab your shirt off the bedroom floor
And trying to recollect the night before
How'd you get from the bar to this mattress?
And when you got here then what happened?
And where's the who that lives here?
In this house you wanna figure out how'd you get here
But the thought got cut by nature
Find the bathroom the gut got anger
Here it comes can't avoid it
Ain't the first time throwin' up in a strange toilet
Anyone else would leave but you?
You crawl back to the bed and fell back asleep
All we need is because
So come and party with us
Take care of you when you're passed out
Right there with you in your glasshouse
Woke up all alone with no friends
But you had to throw up again
Choke up the tears and the spit
Grab some tissue to wipe off your lips
And everything still spins
And then the chills begin
And the god please kill me right now hits
And you still don't know whos house this is
In between leftover dry heaves
You try to check out your timepiece
And you should call your job
But first gotta turn this hangover off
You dream that it's just a dream
Until the phone in your pocket starts to scream
Shut it down don't wanna hear a sound
Heavy is the head that wears that crown now
All we need is because
So come and party with us
Take care of you when you're passed out
Right there with you in your glasshouse
Hangover ain't a strong enough word
It don't describe what just occured
Lookin' at a phone full of missed calls
Probably all the people that you pissed off
Everything seems so sour
So you force yourself into the shower
Standin' up brings out the stars
And the whole bathroom smells just like a dive bar
Can't do it better sit
And let the tub be the catcher's mitt
Lay down face down
Thank god whoever lives here ain't around
Now what you need is silence
And you don't want no one to see you like this
Maybe you don't recognize it
But this is your home this is where your life lives
All we need is because
So come and party with us
Take care of you when you're passed out
Right here with you in your glasshouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s5wPO-QcVw&index=4&list=RDp8zwE3qkhTA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s5wPO-QcVw&index=4&list=RDp8zwE3qkhTA
25 September 2016 02:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You love the people that love you.
You hear the music they move to.
You give your ode to the fall through.
But you don't know you don't know you don't know you don't know.
You love the people that love you.
You hear the music they move to.
You give your ode to the fall through.
But you don't know you don't know you don't know you don't know you.
You just got off work, huh?
Another night feeling like the worst one.
You didn't even count your tips yet,
But you can tell that it ain't no big step.
I don't see why you so nice to customers
They're all fucks and low lives.
But don't fight, just keep the lip stiff
And get that money it's the weekend shift.
But why they all gotta be freaks.
Wish they would just eat and leave.
And keep they eyes to theyselves, already insecure, don't need any help.
But you can blame the pride that makes you hold your anger inside,
But deep down you wanna curse them all.
Fuck off asshole jerk off dirt ball.
You love the people that love you.
You hear the music they move to.
You give your ode to the fall through.
But you don't know you don't know you don't know you don't know.
You love the people that love you.
You hear the music they move to.
You give your ode to the fall through.
But you don't know you don't know you don't know you don't know you.
Now attitude check,
Still show up? You haven't quit yet?
And even when you're meek and sweet
They still treat you like a piece of meat. Huh.
Outrageous, each day this clock tick tock and you still a waitress.
Trying to pay them student loans
And the lights and the phone and the food and the home.
And you ain't quite broke but you couldn't afford that place on your own.
Gotta roommate, to split the rent with
Now you never feel independent.
And everything seems so hallow
Cause after work, where'd that smile go?
Better bring it back tomorrow.
Now, pick up the pace and you might make bar close.
Perfect, last call then some.
Flirtin', sexual tension.
Surfin', through them men
Cause they all searching for that bent one.
But just one to bend, and you look like you could be my friend.
With a smile like that, I gotta flirt.
Girl, you just look like you got off work.
Huh.. huh... huh...
You love the people that love you.
You hear the music they move to.
You give your ode to the fall through.
But you don't know you don't know you don't know you don't know.
You love the people that love you.
You hear the music they move to.
You give your ode to the fall through.
But you don't know you don't know you don't know you don't know you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8zwE3qkhTA
You hear the music they move to.
You give your ode to the fall through.
But you don't know you don't know you don't know you don't know.
You love the people that love you.
You hear the music they move to.
You give your ode to the fall through.
But you don't know you don't know you don't know you don't know you.
You just got off work, huh?
Another night feeling like the worst one.
You didn't even count your tips yet,
But you can tell that it ain't no big step.
I don't see why you so nice to customers
They're all fucks and low lives.
But don't fight, just keep the lip stiff
And get that money it's the weekend shift.
But why they all gotta be freaks.
Wish they would just eat and leave.
And keep they eyes to theyselves, already insecure, don't need any help.
But you can blame the pride that makes you hold your anger inside,
But deep down you wanna curse them all.
Fuck off asshole jerk off dirt ball.
You love the people that love you.
You hear the music they move to.
You give your ode to the fall through.
But you don't know you don't know you don't know you don't know.
You love the people that love you.
You hear the music they move to.
You give your ode to the fall through.
But you don't know you don't know you don't know you don't know you.
Now attitude check,
Still show up? You haven't quit yet?
And even when you're meek and sweet
They still treat you like a piece of meat. Huh.
Outrageous, each day this clock tick tock and you still a waitress.
Trying to pay them student loans
And the lights and the phone and the food and the home.
And you ain't quite broke but you couldn't afford that place on your own.
Gotta roommate, to split the rent with
Now you never feel independent.
And everything seems so hallow
Cause after work, where'd that smile go?
Better bring it back tomorrow.
Now, pick up the pace and you might make bar close.
Perfect, last call then some.
Flirtin', sexual tension.
Surfin', through them men
Cause they all searching for that bent one.
But just one to bend, and you look like you could be my friend.
With a smile like that, I gotta flirt.
Girl, you just look like you got off work.
Huh.. huh... huh...
You love the people that love you.
You hear the music they move to.
You give your ode to the fall through.
But you don't know you don't know you don't know you don't know.
You love the people that love you.
You hear the music they move to.
You give your ode to the fall through.
But you don't know you don't know you don't know you don't know you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8zwE3qkhTA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8zwE3qkhTA
25 September 2016 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vaat kus on ikka, räpgruppe, mis videosi teevad:
So what you saying, I hear complaing
I could repeat every statement you made verbatim
I treated you better back in the day and
Now you feeling like I'm changing, like I'm not the same man
I used to force your heart rate to run a race
And now it's safe to say that it's running out of patience
Frustration, you want some separation?
You want no placement within this mess I'm making?
I'm painfully aware of my mistakes
And maybe you should break an escape from the situation
Or take a little taste of the blame
Then instead you still full of hate telling me get out your face, yeah
You don't really want, you don't really want me
You don't really want, you don't really want me to go
No you don't, that's just for show
You don't really want, you don't really want me
You don't really want, you don't really want me to go
No you don't, that's just for show
Now you wanna threaten me, is that what you're telling me?
Like if i don't step it up, what you gonna step from me?
Where you gonna go? You next to me steadily
At this point it's like I'm joined with your chemistry
Guess that it just wasn't meant to be our destiny
It's upsetting, see, I gave you the best of me
All my friends are like just let her leave, huh
So go ahead and pretend that I set you free, what?
You don't really want, you don't really want me
You don't really want, you don't really want me to go
No you don't, that's just for show
You don't really want, you don't really want me
You don't really want, you don't really want me to go
No you don't, that's just for show
Alright already, now you make this headache pound
I ain't trying to mess around, you ain't allowed to get me down
It's no sweat at all na I won't stress about
Anything projected out of your passive agressive mouth
Let it out, if we walking on a separate ground
Go ahead and step off with all of those brand new friends you found
Hit the town, you'll be back for a second round
If you was gonna leave me you would have already left me now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0chdjyvOIQ
So what you saying, I hear complaing
I could repeat every statement you made verbatim
I treated you better back in the day and
Now you feeling like I'm changing, like I'm not the same man
I used to force your heart rate to run a race
And now it's safe to say that it's running out of patience
Frustration, you want some separation?
You want no placement within this mess I'm making?
I'm painfully aware of my mistakes
And maybe you should break an escape from the situation
Or take a little taste of the blame
Then instead you still full of hate telling me get out your face, yeah
You don't really want, you don't really want me
You don't really want, you don't really want me to go
No you don't, that's just for show
You don't really want, you don't really want me
You don't really want, you don't really want me to go
No you don't, that's just for show
Now you wanna threaten me, is that what you're telling me?
Like if i don't step it up, what you gonna step from me?
Where you gonna go? You next to me steadily
At this point it's like I'm joined with your chemistry
Guess that it just wasn't meant to be our destiny
It's upsetting, see, I gave you the best of me
All my friends are like just let her leave, huh
So go ahead and pretend that I set you free, what?
You don't really want, you don't really want me
You don't really want, you don't really want me to go
No you don't, that's just for show
You don't really want, you don't really want me
You don't really want, you don't really want me to go
No you don't, that's just for show
Alright already, now you make this headache pound
I ain't trying to mess around, you ain't allowed to get me down
It's no sweat at all na I won't stress about
Anything projected out of your passive agressive mouth
Let it out, if we walking on a separate ground
Go ahead and step off with all of those brand new friends you found
Hit the town, you'll be back for a second round
If you was gonna leave me you would have already left me now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0chdjyvOIQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0chdjyvOIQ
25 September 2016 02:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ohoh, nad karmimalt ka sõnuvad: .."..Because these people do a lot of simple shit to impress us.."
"Trying To Find A Balance"
[Slug:]
They love the taste of blood
Now I don't know what that means, but I know that I mean it
Maybe they're as evil as they seem
Or maybe I only look out the window when it's scenic
"Atmosphere finally made a good record."
Yeah right, that shit almost sounds convincing
The last time I felt as sick and contradictive as this
Was the last time we played a show in Cinnci'
"Get real." they tell me
If only they knew how real this life really gets
They would stop acting like a silly bitch
They would respect the cock whether or not they believed in it
Doesn't take much and that's messed up
Because these people do a lot of simple shit to impress us
While everyone was trying to out-do the last man
I was just a ghost trying to catch sony's pac man
Hello ma'am, would you be interested
In some sexual positions and emotional investments
See, I'm not insane, in fact I'm kind of rational
When I be askin', "Yo, where did all the passion go? "
East coast, West coast, down South, Midwest
Nowadays everybody knows how to get fresh
Somebody give me a big yes (YES!)
God Bless America, but she stole the B from "Bless" (And kept it)
Now I'm too fucked up to dance
So I'm a sit with my hand down the front of my pants
You can't achieve your goals if you don't take that chance
So go pry open that trunk and get those amps (You know!)
[Chorus: x2]
In the days of Kings and Queens I was a jester
Treat me like a God, or they treat me like a leper
You see me move back and forth between both
I'm trying to find a balance
I'm trying to build a balance
[Slug:]
So now I keep a close eye on my pets
Because they make most of they moves off of instinct and sense
It's eat, sleep, fuck, and self defense
So straight you can set your clocks and place bets
Wait, let's prey on blind, deaf, dumb, dead
Hustle, maybe a couple will love what you said
MC's drag their feet across a big naked land
With an empty bag of seed and a fake shake of hands
Yeah I got some last words, FUCK ALL Y'ALL!
Stop writin' raps and go play volleyball
Gotta journey the world in a hurry
Cause my attorney didn't put enough girls on the jury
Guilty of droppin' these bombs in the city
But I'm innocent, love is the motive that's why I'm killing 'em
Guilty of settin' my fire in all fifty
But I'm innocent, blame it on my equilibrium
[Chorus: x2]
In the days of Kings and Queens I was a jester
Treat me like a God, or they treat me like a leper
You see me move back and forth between both
I'm trying to find a balance
I'm trying to build a balance
I gotta find my balance
I gotta find my balance
[Slug:]
Now all my friends are famous
It's either one thing or another
They all don't know what my name is
Probably know both of my brothers
One is a hard workin' savior
The other's a hard workin' soldier
I'm just your next door neighbor
Workin' hard at tryin' to stay sober
You wait for the car at the corner
Pretend like you know what the plot is
Won't quit till I hit California
And make you my Golden State goddess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbEwHJX95QE
"Trying To Find A Balance"
[Slug:]
They love the taste of blood
Now I don't know what that means, but I know that I mean it
Maybe they're as evil as they seem
Or maybe I only look out the window when it's scenic
"Atmosphere finally made a good record."
Yeah right, that shit almost sounds convincing
The last time I felt as sick and contradictive as this
Was the last time we played a show in Cinnci'
"Get real." they tell me
If only they knew how real this life really gets
They would stop acting like a silly bitch
They would respect the cock whether or not they believed in it
Doesn't take much and that's messed up
Because these people do a lot of simple shit to impress us
While everyone was trying to out-do the last man
I was just a ghost trying to catch sony's pac man
Hello ma'am, would you be interested
In some sexual positions and emotional investments
See, I'm not insane, in fact I'm kind of rational
When I be askin', "Yo, where did all the passion go? "
East coast, West coast, down South, Midwest
Nowadays everybody knows how to get fresh
Somebody give me a big yes (YES!)
God Bless America, but she stole the B from "Bless" (And kept it)
Now I'm too fucked up to dance
So I'm a sit with my hand down the front of my pants
You can't achieve your goals if you don't take that chance
So go pry open that trunk and get those amps (You know!)
[Chorus: x2]
In the days of Kings and Queens I was a jester
Treat me like a God, or they treat me like a leper
You see me move back and forth between both
I'm trying to find a balance
I'm trying to build a balance
[Slug:]
So now I keep a close eye on my pets
Because they make most of they moves off of instinct and sense
It's eat, sleep, fuck, and self defense
So straight you can set your clocks and place bets
Wait, let's prey on blind, deaf, dumb, dead
Hustle, maybe a couple will love what you said
MC's drag their feet across a big naked land
With an empty bag of seed and a fake shake of hands
Yeah I got some last words, FUCK ALL Y'ALL!
Stop writin' raps and go play volleyball
Gotta journey the world in a hurry
Cause my attorney didn't put enough girls on the jury
Guilty of droppin' these bombs in the city
But I'm innocent, love is the motive that's why I'm killing 'em
Guilty of settin' my fire in all fifty
But I'm innocent, blame it on my equilibrium
[Chorus: x2]
In the days of Kings and Queens I was a jester
Treat me like a God, or they treat me like a leper
You see me move back and forth between both
I'm trying to find a balance
I'm trying to build a balance
I gotta find my balance
I gotta find my balance
[Slug:]
Now all my friends are famous
It's either one thing or another
They all don't know what my name is
Probably know both of my brothers
One is a hard workin' savior
The other's a hard workin' soldier
I'm just your next door neighbor
Workin' hard at tryin' to stay sober
You wait for the car at the corner
Pretend like you know what the plot is
Won't quit till I hit California
And make you my Golden State goddess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbEwHJX95QE
25 September 2016 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The Last To Say"
As far back as he cares to remember,
He used to see his old man lose the temper.
And Mama's pretty face'd catch it all.
On a regular basis the nest would fall.
But he was always safe from dad's rage
'Cause mama's sacrifice in his place.
Two dozen years, Of the blood sweet and tears.
Avoid the mirror, losin' her hair from the fear.
She never left him, stayed inside.
He beat her up until the day that he died.
In fact the biggest beating was the day that he died.
Cause now it's too late for her to make a new life.
She gets to mourn for the touch of a punch.
Won't ever admit that she ain't clutching it much.
Someday she'll die and still won't be done.
The anger lives on through their son.
Cause he saw, he caught it all,
A childhood of watchin' ma and pa get raw.
It's too bad for him; Naw' that's half the truth.
Cause you back with him now and he's smackin' you.
What happened to you? You don't have a clue.
Did your mamma use to suffer accidents too?
I never knew that you would stand for abuse.
I guess I just assumed that you would pack up and move.
Think about when you left him, Last time,
You said out loud, You'd never forgive past crime.
Sunglasses so dark, scarf around the neck to cover the choke marks.
And since you got it justify returnin',
You convinced yourself that he's just a hurt person.
You wanna blame that cross he bares,
But his pop's not there when he tosses you down stairs.
Let me be the last to say, please don't stay.
Let me be the last to say, you won't be okay.
Please put your shoes on and step into that warm weather.
Go get yourself a more better forever.
Gotta put it down, you gotta leave it,
And don't ever come back again; You gotta mean it.
Just tear it all apart and build new,
Cause' if you don't kill him he's gonna kill you.
You can't hold hands when they make fists,
And I ain't the first to say this but,
Let me be the last to say, please don't stay.
Let me be the last to say, you won't be okay.
Let me be the last to say, please don't stay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uEJi0x-49E
As far back as he cares to remember,
He used to see his old man lose the temper.
And Mama's pretty face'd catch it all.
On a regular basis the nest would fall.
But he was always safe from dad's rage
'Cause mama's sacrifice in his place.
Two dozen years, Of the blood sweet and tears.
Avoid the mirror, losin' her hair from the fear.
She never left him, stayed inside.
He beat her up until the day that he died.
In fact the biggest beating was the day that he died.
Cause now it's too late for her to make a new life.
She gets to mourn for the touch of a punch.
Won't ever admit that she ain't clutching it much.
Someday she'll die and still won't be done.
The anger lives on through their son.
Cause he saw, he caught it all,
A childhood of watchin' ma and pa get raw.
It's too bad for him; Naw' that's half the truth.
Cause you back with him now and he's smackin' you.
What happened to you? You don't have a clue.
Did your mamma use to suffer accidents too?
I never knew that you would stand for abuse.
I guess I just assumed that you would pack up and move.
Think about when you left him, Last time,
You said out loud, You'd never forgive past crime.
Sunglasses so dark, scarf around the neck to cover the choke marks.
And since you got it justify returnin',
You convinced yourself that he's just a hurt person.
You wanna blame that cross he bares,
But his pop's not there when he tosses you down stairs.
Let me be the last to say, please don't stay.
Let me be the last to say, you won't be okay.
Please put your shoes on and step into that warm weather.
Go get yourself a more better forever.
Gotta put it down, you gotta leave it,
And don't ever come back again; You gotta mean it.
Just tear it all apart and build new,
Cause' if you don't kill him he's gonna kill you.
You can't hold hands when they make fists,
And I ain't the first to say this but,
Let me be the last to say, please don't stay.
Let me be the last to say, you won't be okay.
Let me be the last to say, please don't stay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uEJi0x-49E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uEJi0x-49E
25 September 2016 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Written by astrophysic, May :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE8kGMfXaFU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE8kGMfXaFU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE8kGMfXaFU
25 September 2016 01:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Veelkorra, see niii hea:
Her name is Yoshimi
She's a black belt in karate
Working for the city
She has to discipline her body...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzlMeTxVdH8
Her name is Yoshimi
She's a black belt in karate
Working for the city
She has to discipline her body...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzlMeTxVdH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzlMeTxVdH8
25 September 2016 01:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Spherical Thought (Lateral Thought links bottom)
Spherical thought is soul-based thought; holisitic in its processing, seeing all sides of an issue or situation simultaneously and understanding it on all of its possible levels. Unlike the frenetic concrete mental nature of lateral thought, spherical thought flows naturally from the Buddhic plane to impact upon the lower planes of awareness. Spherical thinking is true Esoteric cognition in its very essence; transcendent in its awareness, abstract rather than concrete, process rather than end product, and unlimited to three dimensions. Unlike concrete thought, which is limited to the level of lateral processing (see above), spherical thought transcends concrete consciousness into universal consciousness. Spherical thinking can only be approximated while in a relaxed or meditative state of mind; unaccessible from beta-wave brain frequencies, it can only be accessed at alpha- and theta-wave frequencies.
Whereas lateral thought observes a set of FACTS and, without prior assumptions, arranges and rearranges them to come up with a correct solution to a situation, spherical thought begins with a concept and proceeds to make observations about that concept, widening its orb of understanding of the concept with each new observation made, until a total comprehension of the concept is reached (if possible). Remember, spherical thinking is process-oriented rather than product-oriented, and thus is an infinite process. Spherical thought will approximate total understanding of a concept, but never fully reach it since there is always one more possible view of the concept. In this setting, spherical thought is pure Inductive reasoning, as lateral thought is pure deductive reasoning.
For an example of spherical thought, consider the concept of "World Peace." What does World Peace mean to you? What do you think it would mean to others whom you know, such as your mother/father/brother/sister/kids? Would they view this concept the same way that you would? What do you think "World Peace" would mean to someone living in a war-torn country (or neighborhood)? Or someone who lived in a country where over 30% of the population were starving? Or someone in a country in which a tyrannical dictator governed every aspect of their life and survival? How would they view "World Peace" differently from you? Would there be any similarities? How would World Peace be viewed from a purely masculine perspective? From a feminine perspective? From the perspective of a marine biologist? From the perspective of a priest? From the perspective of a polititian? From the perspective of an average everyday worker in your own country?
As you keep adding different perspectives on to the meaning of the concept of "World Peace," and refining the meaning as you proceed, you draw closer and closer to conceptualizing the true nature of World Peace. If one of your concerns in this life is to help bring about World Peace, it is important to understand it from as many different points of view as possible, rather than from a singular point of view (yours) or a few (your closest associates). To a soldier, World Peace may mean the cessation of all wars on Earth. To a mother of a starving child, World Peace may embody enough food and resources for all people on Earth. To a priest, World Peace may mean the establishment of the brotherhood of all Mankind on Earth. Are these goals conflicting? Can they be resolved into a working plan of action? Can you help envision all of these possibilities and, by your powers, co-create them through prayer, meditation, and a directed focus of power?
As one becomes more adept at being able to think spherically, envisioning as many different aspects of a situation, one will be able to better ideate and create reality from those ideas. World Peace is, of course, a vast concept that will take much effort to manifest; yet, with enough people ideating it in a spherical approach and radiating their interpretation of it in Divine Will, it can be manifested on the Earth. Other conceptual applications of spherical thinking can be related to artistic creation, product development, invention, and innovation, educational systems, and practical philosophies for future living. The purpose of spherical thought is envisioning and ideating the thoughts of Spirit and being able to relay them as accurately as possible to the practical realm where they may be made manifest.
Links
Associative Thought:
Preconsciousness: A Nonconscious Representational System Lyons, Duane Mental Health Net & CMHC Systems, 1995-1998.
Bach Flower Remedies https://web.archive.org/web/20020806064328/http://www.bachcentre.com/centre/english.htm
Heritage & Tradition: Dr. Edward Bach Centre https://web.archive.org/web/20040805040410/http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Neue_Therapien_Dietmar_Kraemer/newther.htm
New Bach Flower Therapies http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Neue_Therapien_Dietmar_Kraemer/newther.htm
Moonrise Herbs: The Bach Flower Remedies (commercial) https://web.archive.org/web/20090916074553/http://www.botanical.com/ //(ajastagasi minnes head slooganid)
Bach Flower Remedies https://web.archive.org/web/20020602060416/http://www.healthypages.net/404notfoundnatheal.asp
Neurolinguistic Programming (NLP) https://web.archive.org/web/20020206222252/http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~btcarrol/skeptic/neurolin.html
Neurolinguistic Programming
Neurolinguistic Programming Resources https://web.archive.org/web/20081228103124/http://www.umdnj.edu/psyevnts/neuroling.html
Neurolinguistic Programming (NLP) https://web.archive.org/web/20030808012602/http://spider.hcob.wmich.edu/bis/faculty/bowman/nlp.html
Playing those NLP Mind Games, Forever https://web.archive.org/web/19980207020303/http://www.hollys.com/success-dynamics/nlpserys.htm
Introduction to NLP http://www.instatek.com/nlp/nlpintro.html //(arhiivist puudu!)
The NLP Information Center http://www.nlpinfo.com/home.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20160806110701/http://www.nlpinfo.com/
https://web.archive.org/web/20050716005551/http://www.nlpinfo.com/
Lateral Thought
Lateral Thinking (DeBono) https://web.archive.org/web/19991109182637/http://www.lincoln.ac.nz/educ/tip/36.htm
Paul Sloane's Home Page (Classic Lateral Thinking Puzzles) http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/sloane/ // (No archive!)
Edward De Bono Thinking Clubs (Britain only) http://www.water.demon.co.uk/tclubs1.htm // (No arvchive)
Lateral and Vertical Thinking. Differences between lateral and vertical (linear) thought. https://web.archive.org/web/20051226183355/http://www.admin.upm.edu.my/~mzbd/lateral.html
Alternative Education: Like creative thinking! https://web.archive.org/web/20020202031047/http://www.tiac.net/users/seeker/creathink.html
Lateral Thinking Puzzles Page https://web.archive.org/web/20060613103608/http://www.stheno.demon.co.uk/puzzles/lateral.html
Lateral and Creative Thinking Links. https://web.archive.org/web/19990427093833/http://www.dur.ac.uk/~dbl3mpa/lateral.htm
Spherical Thought
The Meditation Room. A simple exercise in spherical thinking. https://web.archive.org/web/19991109080248/http://www.club.innet.be/~rsmw0015/meditationroom.html
Spherical thought is soul-based thought; holisitic in its processing, seeing all sides of an issue or situation simultaneously and understanding it on all of its possible levels. Unlike the frenetic concrete mental nature of lateral thought, spherical thought flows naturally from the Buddhic plane to impact upon the lower planes of awareness. Spherical thinking is true Esoteric cognition in its very essence; transcendent in its awareness, abstract rather than concrete, process rather than end product, and unlimited to three dimensions. Unlike concrete thought, which is limited to the level of lateral processing (see above), spherical thought transcends concrete consciousness into universal consciousness. Spherical thinking can only be approximated while in a relaxed or meditative state of mind; unaccessible from beta-wave brain frequencies, it can only be accessed at alpha- and theta-wave frequencies.
Whereas lateral thought observes a set of FACTS and, without prior assumptions, arranges and rearranges them to come up with a correct solution to a situation, spherical thought begins with a concept and proceeds to make observations about that concept, widening its orb of understanding of the concept with each new observation made, until a total comprehension of the concept is reached (if possible). Remember, spherical thinking is process-oriented rather than product-oriented, and thus is an infinite process. Spherical thought will approximate total understanding of a concept, but never fully reach it since there is always one more possible view of the concept. In this setting, spherical thought is pure Inductive reasoning, as lateral thought is pure deductive reasoning.
For an example of spherical thought, consider the concept of "World Peace." What does World Peace mean to you? What do you think it would mean to others whom you know, such as your mother/father/brother/sister/kids? Would they view this concept the same way that you would? What do you think "World Peace" would mean to someone living in a war-torn country (or neighborhood)? Or someone who lived in a country where over 30% of the population were starving? Or someone in a country in which a tyrannical dictator governed every aspect of their life and survival? How would they view "World Peace" differently from you? Would there be any similarities? How would World Peace be viewed from a purely masculine perspective? From a feminine perspective? From the perspective of a marine biologist? From the perspective of a priest? From the perspective of a polititian? From the perspective of an average everyday worker in your own country?
As you keep adding different perspectives on to the meaning of the concept of "World Peace," and refining the meaning as you proceed, you draw closer and closer to conceptualizing the true nature of World Peace. If one of your concerns in this life is to help bring about World Peace, it is important to understand it from as many different points of view as possible, rather than from a singular point of view (yours) or a few (your closest associates). To a soldier, World Peace may mean the cessation of all wars on Earth. To a mother of a starving child, World Peace may embody enough food and resources for all people on Earth. To a priest, World Peace may mean the establishment of the brotherhood of all Mankind on Earth. Are these goals conflicting? Can they be resolved into a working plan of action? Can you help envision all of these possibilities and, by your powers, co-create them through prayer, meditation, and a directed focus of power?
As one becomes more adept at being able to think spherically, envisioning as many different aspects of a situation, one will be able to better ideate and create reality from those ideas. World Peace is, of course, a vast concept that will take much effort to manifest; yet, with enough people ideating it in a spherical approach and radiating their interpretation of it in Divine Will, it can be manifested on the Earth. Other conceptual applications of spherical thinking can be related to artistic creation, product development, invention, and innovation, educational systems, and practical philosophies for future living. The purpose of spherical thought is envisioning and ideating the thoughts of Spirit and being able to relay them as accurately as possible to the practical realm where they may be made manifest.
Links
Associative Thought:
Preconsciousness: A Nonconscious Representational System Lyons, Duane Mental Health Net & CMHC Systems, 1995-1998.
Bach Flower Remedies https://web.archive.org/web/20020806064328/http://www.bachcentre.com/centre/english.htm
Heritage & Tradition: Dr. Edward Bach Centre https://web.archive.org/web/20040805040410/http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Neue_Therapien_Dietmar_Kraemer/newther.htm
New Bach Flower Therapies http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Neue_Therapien_Dietmar_Kraemer/newther.htm
Moonrise Herbs: The Bach Flower Remedies (commercial) https://web.archive.org/web/20090916074553/http://www.botanical.com/ //(ajastagasi minnes head slooganid)
Bach Flower Remedies https://web.archive.org/web/20020602060416/http://www.healthypages.net/404notfoundnatheal.asp
Neurolinguistic Programming (NLP) https://web.archive.org/web/20020206222252/http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~btcarrol/skeptic/neurolin.html
Neurolinguistic Programming
Neurolinguistic Programming Resources https://web.archive.org/web/20081228103124/http://www.umdnj.edu/psyevnts/neuroling.html
Neurolinguistic Programming (NLP) https://web.archive.org/web/20030808012602/http://spider.hcob.wmich.edu/bis/faculty/bowman/nlp.html
Playing those NLP Mind Games, Forever https://web.archive.org/web/19980207020303/http://www.hollys.com/success-dynamics/nlpserys.htm
Introduction to NLP http://www.instatek.com/nlp/nlpintro.html //(arhiivist puudu!)
The NLP Information Center http://www.nlpinfo.com/home.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20160806110701/http://www.nlpinfo.com/
https://web.archive.org/web/20050716005551/http://www.nlpinfo.com/
Lateral Thought
Lateral Thinking (DeBono) https://web.archive.org/web/19991109182637/http://www.lincoln.ac.nz/educ/tip/36.htm
Paul Sloane's Home Page (Classic Lateral Thinking Puzzles) http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/sloane/ // (No archive!)
Edward De Bono Thinking Clubs (Britain only) http://www.water.demon.co.uk/tclubs1.htm // (No arvchive)
Lateral and Vertical Thinking. Differences between lateral and vertical (linear) thought. https://web.archive.org/web/20051226183355/http://www.admin.upm.edu.my/~mzbd/lateral.html
Alternative Education: Like creative thinking! https://web.archive.org/web/20020202031047/http://www.tiac.net/users/seeker/creathink.html
Lateral Thinking Puzzles Page https://web.archive.org/web/20060613103608/http://www.stheno.demon.co.uk/puzzles/lateral.html
Lateral and Creative Thinking Links. https://web.archive.org/web/19990427093833/http://www.dur.ac.uk/~dbl3mpa/lateral.htm
Spherical Thought
The Meditation Room. A simple exercise in spherical thinking. https://web.archive.org/web/19991109080248/http://www.club.innet.be/~rsmw0015/meditationroom.html
25 September 2016 00:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lateral Thought
Lateral thought is, literally, the bridge between the persona-oriented realms of linear and associative thought and the soul-oriented realm of spherical thought. Lateral thought is based on pure mental processing, integrated with emotional response and physical sensation. Lateral thought proceeds from a set of FACTS, but not assumptions. Lateral thought, in fact, makes NO assumptions; determining that it is the initial assumptions that limit the possibilities of the solution. The classic example of a person using near-pure lateral thought is the fictional detective Sherlock Holmes. His uncanny ability to determine the solution to otherwise unsolvable problems was due largely from his ability to observe the facts of a situation and make no initial assumptions about it.
Lateral thought, therefore, is pure deductive reasoning. Many people believe that they are engaging in pure deduction when, in fact, they are proceeding from a strictly linear perspective and arriving at a conclusion that they already held from their previously fixed assumptions and opinions. Deductive reasoning is being able to deduce a solution from observable facts without preconditioned assumptions or opinions.
Today, "lateral thought" is a popular corporate buzzword that is too often equated with problems of dwarves standing on ice blocks, little boys in elevators, and other ridiculous, impractical situations. These problems are exercises in using lateral thinking, but they are NOT lateral thought, and to reduce the entire field of lateral thought to "parlor games" and "creativity skills training seminars" is to do it a great disservice.
http://www.lincoln.ac.nz/educ/tip/36.htm
Edward DeBono identifies four critical factors associated with lateral thought: 1) recognition of dominant ideas that polarize perception of a problem, 2) searching for differ ways of looking at things, 3) relaxation of rigid control of thinking (linear thought), and 4) use of chance to encourage other ideas. (DeBono, Edward) Thus, using lateral thought, one breaks up the elements (facts) of a problem or situation and rearranges them in a (seemingly) random pattern to arrive at a different view of the situation, and a possible solution. Those who are adept at doing this are the Sherlock Holmes of the world, while the rest of the world stumbles along like Dr. Watson, proceeding along the crystallized lines of postassumptive thought. Lateral thought is thus both creative and dynamic, and incorporates the properties of associative thought (the ability to regroup and reassign associative meanings) as well as linear thought (the ability to proceed along a line of thought to a conclusion).
An example of lateral thought would be in the following situation. Company ABC has a product X that they have introduced to a certain market. Marketing has indicated that the product will be a success, production has ensured high quality, Finance has approved its funding, and it's now on the market. Except, now, it's failing dismally in its sales. Management is stymied. By all indications, the product's convenience and quality, along with relatively low cost, should have guaranteed its success. Using linear thought processes, management determines that the product has not been promoted successfully, and embarks upon an expensive, new advertising campaign. The product continues to fail in meeting its expected sales. Management is on the brink of giving up, when a young executive decides to analyze the problem from a completely different perspective, looking at the FACTS without any prior ASSUMPTIONS. The facts are:
Product X is a brand of baby food.
The market is an impoverished African country, in which mothers desperately need food for their babies.
The product's price is well within the budget of a typical family in this culture.
Over 90% of the people in this country are completely illiterate.
Can you figure out the problem? It is an actual one that existed for this company back in the 1960's when they went multinational. The company was Gerber Baby Foods (yet another FACT which is a clue). The solution is given in the next paragraph.
In this particular culture, cans, jars, and bottles containing food had labels picturing their contents, since 90% of the people in this country couldn't read or write. This culture had become accustomed to expecting what they saw on the label of a jar to be contained in a jar. The Gerber label showed....a human baby.
Gruesome, huh? That, however, was the solution to the problem. No one wanted to feed dead babies to their live ones. The young executive, using lateral thought, rearranged the facts of the problem, realized what had been staring them in the face (literally) the whole time, and brought his findings before the board of directors. The labels were immediately changed to indicate the type of food each jar contained, and sales skyrocketed.
Lateral thought techniques are now being taught to people in management, and even in school today, to bring people to a new level of creative thinking. Lateral thought is the bridge between the lower human-based thought forms and the ultimate cognitive process: spherical thought.
Lateral thought is, literally, the bridge between the persona-oriented realms of linear and associative thought and the soul-oriented realm of spherical thought. Lateral thought is based on pure mental processing, integrated with emotional response and physical sensation. Lateral thought proceeds from a set of FACTS, but not assumptions. Lateral thought, in fact, makes NO assumptions; determining that it is the initial assumptions that limit the possibilities of the solution. The classic example of a person using near-pure lateral thought is the fictional detective Sherlock Holmes. His uncanny ability to determine the solution to otherwise unsolvable problems was due largely from his ability to observe the facts of a situation and make no initial assumptions about it.
Lateral thought, therefore, is pure deductive reasoning. Many people believe that they are engaging in pure deduction when, in fact, they are proceeding from a strictly linear perspective and arriving at a conclusion that they already held from their previously fixed assumptions and opinions. Deductive reasoning is being able to deduce a solution from observable facts without preconditioned assumptions or opinions.
Today, "lateral thought" is a popular corporate buzzword that is too often equated with problems of dwarves standing on ice blocks, little boys in elevators, and other ridiculous, impractical situations. These problems are exercises in using lateral thinking, but they are NOT lateral thought, and to reduce the entire field of lateral thought to "parlor games" and "creativity skills training seminars" is to do it a great disservice.
http://www.lincoln.ac.nz/educ/tip/36.htm
Edward DeBono identifies four critical factors associated with lateral thought: 1) recognition of dominant ideas that polarize perception of a problem, 2) searching for differ ways of looking at things, 3) relaxation of rigid control of thinking (linear thought), and 4) use of chance to encourage other ideas. (DeBono, Edward) Thus, using lateral thought, one breaks up the elements (facts) of a problem or situation and rearranges them in a (seemingly) random pattern to arrive at a different view of the situation, and a possible solution. Those who are adept at doing this are the Sherlock Holmes of the world, while the rest of the world stumbles along like Dr. Watson, proceeding along the crystallized lines of postassumptive thought. Lateral thought is thus both creative and dynamic, and incorporates the properties of associative thought (the ability to regroup and reassign associative meanings) as well as linear thought (the ability to proceed along a line of thought to a conclusion).
An example of lateral thought would be in the following situation. Company ABC has a product X that they have introduced to a certain market. Marketing has indicated that the product will be a success, production has ensured high quality, Finance has approved its funding, and it's now on the market. Except, now, it's failing dismally in its sales. Management is stymied. By all indications, the product's convenience and quality, along with relatively low cost, should have guaranteed its success. Using linear thought processes, management determines that the product has not been promoted successfully, and embarks upon an expensive, new advertising campaign. The product continues to fail in meeting its expected sales. Management is on the brink of giving up, when a young executive decides to analyze the problem from a completely different perspective, looking at the FACTS without any prior ASSUMPTIONS. The facts are:
Product X is a brand of baby food.
The market is an impoverished African country, in which mothers desperately need food for their babies.
The product's price is well within the budget of a typical family in this culture.
Over 90% of the people in this country are completely illiterate.
Can you figure out the problem? It is an actual one that existed for this company back in the 1960's when they went multinational. The company was Gerber Baby Foods (yet another FACT which is a clue). The solution is given in the next paragraph.
In this particular culture, cans, jars, and bottles containing food had labels picturing their contents, since 90% of the people in this country couldn't read or write. This culture had become accustomed to expecting what they saw on the label of a jar to be contained in a jar. The Gerber label showed....a human baby.
Gruesome, huh? That, however, was the solution to the problem. No one wanted to feed dead babies to their live ones. The young executive, using lateral thought, rearranged the facts of the problem, realized what had been staring them in the face (literally) the whole time, and brought his findings before the board of directors. The labels were immediately changed to indicate the type of food each jar contained, and sales skyrocketed.
Lateral thought techniques are now being taught to people in management, and even in school today, to bring people to a new level of creative thinking. Lateral thought is the bridge between the lower human-based thought forms and the ultimate cognitive process: spherical thought.
http://www.lincoln.ac.nz/educ/tip/36.htm
25 September 2016 00:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Associative Thought
Whereas linear thought proceeds from the limited awareness of the five senses of the physical plane, associative thought proceeds from awareness of the astral plane integrated with the physical plane, and is the next step in the evolution of human cognition. Associative thought is preconscious (Lyon, Duane); below the level of conscious awareness, is conceptual rather than verbal, and non-linear rather than linear. This level of cognition is responsible for 1) associating current experiences and thoughts with prior memories, 2) filtering unwelcome,taboo, or embarrassing thoughts and feelings, 3) implementing conscious perceptions, and 4) classifying, storing, and recalling strong emotional, self-centered memories.
Much of associative thought is positive-oriented, and can be used to stabilize and harmonize our emotional environment. For example, a person may smell a certain fragrance, and suddenly be overwhelmed with memories and feelings of a point in time in their past when they were happy, secure, and loved. Often there is no pattern as to how these thoughts and feelings are processed; they simply wash over the person in a massive paradigm, all associated with a smell. If the person feels happy, secure, and loved when they smell this scent, they can work directly with that scent to bolster attitudes of happiness, security, and belovedness. Using the scent in times of doubt or grief may actually help the person come to terms with the challenging emotions s/he is facing.
Because the bulk of humanity cannot cognize at this level, many people are imprisoned by it within the realm of linear thought. Such people tend to view the world in terms of "black & white", or from a persecutor/victim, savior/victim standpoint. It has been shown that subliminal programming, the process of feeding programming images to the subconsious mind at faster-than-conscious-level processing speeds (usually during audio or video transmissions), is most effective when used upon an audience that is largely unaware of their associative processes. Being thus unaware, they are subject to anyone who has the ability to manipulate their associative impressions and subconscious thoughts.
Even for those members of humanity who are beginning to work creatively with associative thought may become entrapped by preconscious associations of which they were unaware. Examples of the entrapment of associative thought are as follows:
Walking down the street, a person sees a dog and her pulse races and she develops gooseflesh. (Based on a childhood experience in which an angry dog attacked her while she was in her stroller, she now as an adult still associates "dog" with the emotion of terror.)
A student, about to give an oral report in front of his class, stammers, turns pale, sweats, and balks at following through with it. (Based on a prior experience in kindergarten when he acted in a skit, forgot an important line, and was the laughingstock of the kids in the class, who taunted him cruelly about it.)
Working in an office, a businessman hears a song playing on a radio in another office, and, without explanation, bursts into tears. (Based on an experience in his childhood when he found out that his mother had suddenly died, this same song was playing in the background.)
In each of these cases, the person is unaware of the root cause for their discomfort and emotional reaction, although this is based very strongly upon a prior event and its emotional impact upon their subconscious mind. All three of these people, very strongly conditioned in the linear realm of thought, would explain their behavior by "I've never liked dogs", "I'm no good at giving speeches, and I never have been", and "I can't understand what came over me. I'm going crazy!" Linear thought is unable to account for associative memories. In the case of the businessman, he was only barely aware of the event of being told of his mother's passing, and was completely unaware of the song that was playing in the background; yet, that song was associated with the depth of grief and despair that he felt at that moment.
There are several techniques by which a person can become aware of his/her associative thought processes. One is by using simple relaxation and/or meditation techniques which can connect the person to their inner subjective self and enable them to understand some of the root events that are creating their unexplainable emotional reactions. Often, people may not embark upon such a self-study until their emotional pain becomes so great that they seek out therapy or counseling.
The Bach Flower Essences are homeopathic essential oil remedies for many deep-seated emotional difficulties. These remedies work directly through the power of the associative (astral) mind-form. In use since the 1930's, the flower remedies are powerful in helping people adjust the associative thought form and work harmoniously with the bridge between thought and emotional cognition.
A highly effective technique used to gain control of the associative thought process is known as neurolinguistic programming (NLP). Using associative thought, NLP links emotions to actions or statements that serve to empower the individual and reprogram him/her from negative to positive emotional responses. NLP is used predominantly in reprogramming the associative process to where the person has cognitive control over his/her emotional reactions.
There are several links to NLP and associative thought resources at the bottom of this page, in the Links section.
plato.stanford.edu/entries/associationist-thought/
The ability model of emotional intelligence: Searching for valid measures
https://www.scribd.com/document/246778815/Emotional-Intelligence-Searching-for-Valid-Measures-Antonakis-2011
Whereas linear thought proceeds from the limited awareness of the five senses of the physical plane, associative thought proceeds from awareness of the astral plane integrated with the physical plane, and is the next step in the evolution of human cognition. Associative thought is preconscious (Lyon, Duane); below the level of conscious awareness, is conceptual rather than verbal, and non-linear rather than linear. This level of cognition is responsible for 1) associating current experiences and thoughts with prior memories, 2) filtering unwelcome,taboo, or embarrassing thoughts and feelings, 3) implementing conscious perceptions, and 4) classifying, storing, and recalling strong emotional, self-centered memories.
Much of associative thought is positive-oriented, and can be used to stabilize and harmonize our emotional environment. For example, a person may smell a certain fragrance, and suddenly be overwhelmed with memories and feelings of a point in time in their past when they were happy, secure, and loved. Often there is no pattern as to how these thoughts and feelings are processed; they simply wash over the person in a massive paradigm, all associated with a smell. If the person feels happy, secure, and loved when they smell this scent, they can work directly with that scent to bolster attitudes of happiness, security, and belovedness. Using the scent in times of doubt or grief may actually help the person come to terms with the challenging emotions s/he is facing.
Because the bulk of humanity cannot cognize at this level, many people are imprisoned by it within the realm of linear thought. Such people tend to view the world in terms of "black & white", or from a persecutor/victim, savior/victim standpoint. It has been shown that subliminal programming, the process of feeding programming images to the subconsious mind at faster-than-conscious-level processing speeds (usually during audio or video transmissions), is most effective when used upon an audience that is largely unaware of their associative processes. Being thus unaware, they are subject to anyone who has the ability to manipulate their associative impressions and subconscious thoughts.
Even for those members of humanity who are beginning to work creatively with associative thought may become entrapped by preconscious associations of which they were unaware. Examples of the entrapment of associative thought are as follows:
Walking down the street, a person sees a dog and her pulse races and she develops gooseflesh. (Based on a childhood experience in which an angry dog attacked her while she was in her stroller, she now as an adult still associates "dog" with the emotion of terror.)
A student, about to give an oral report in front of his class, stammers, turns pale, sweats, and balks at following through with it. (Based on a prior experience in kindergarten when he acted in a skit, forgot an important line, and was the laughingstock of the kids in the class, who taunted him cruelly about it.)
Working in an office, a businessman hears a song playing on a radio in another office, and, without explanation, bursts into tears. (Based on an experience in his childhood when he found out that his mother had suddenly died, this same song was playing in the background.)
In each of these cases, the person is unaware of the root cause for their discomfort and emotional reaction, although this is based very strongly upon a prior event and its emotional impact upon their subconscious mind. All three of these people, very strongly conditioned in the linear realm of thought, would explain their behavior by "I've never liked dogs", "I'm no good at giving speeches, and I never have been", and "I can't understand what came over me. I'm going crazy!" Linear thought is unable to account for associative memories. In the case of the businessman, he was only barely aware of the event of being told of his mother's passing, and was completely unaware of the song that was playing in the background; yet, that song was associated with the depth of grief and despair that he felt at that moment.
There are several techniques by which a person can become aware of his/her associative thought processes. One is by using simple relaxation and/or meditation techniques which can connect the person to their inner subjective self and enable them to understand some of the root events that are creating their unexplainable emotional reactions. Often, people may not embark upon such a self-study until their emotional pain becomes so great that they seek out therapy or counseling.
The Bach Flower Essences are homeopathic essential oil remedies for many deep-seated emotional difficulties. These remedies work directly through the power of the associative (astral) mind-form. In use since the 1930's, the flower remedies are powerful in helping people adjust the associative thought form and work harmoniously with the bridge between thought and emotional cognition.
A highly effective technique used to gain control of the associative thought process is known as neurolinguistic programming (NLP). Using associative thought, NLP links emotions to actions or statements that serve to empower the individual and reprogram him/her from negative to positive emotional responses. NLP is used predominantly in reprogramming the associative process to where the person has cognitive control over his/her emotional reactions.
There are several links to NLP and associative thought resources at the bottom of this page, in the Links section.
plato.stanford.edu/entries/associationist-thought/
The ability model of emotional intelligence: Searching for valid measures
https://www.scribd.com/document/246778815/Emotional-Intelligence-Searching-for-Valid-Measures-Antonakis-2011
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/associationist-thought/
25 September 2016 00:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Esoteric Cognition
Cognition is the process of developing one's style of thinking, learning, and processing information. While third-dimensional humans cannot ideate (create an idea), and few can formulate a REAL thought, other than opinions about their emotions, the act of cognition stems from the level of the Soul; stepped down through the three lower planes to make impression upon a physical-dense brain.
There are actually four levels of cognition with which humanity in lesson may process, yet humanity en masse today only works with the lowest processing level, that of linear thought. A few people are able to cognize at the level of associative, or "inner thought", and even fewer are reaching to work with pure mental, or "lateral thought" processing. Only those people who are working in direct contact with their souls are able to begin working with soul-thought, also known as "spherical" thought.
Linear Thought
That level of humanity which is receptive only to the physical plane and the impress of their five senses (sight, hearing, taste, touch, and smell) are limited to the realm of linear thought. Linear thought is limited to the physical dense realm; proceeds from a set of fixed opinions or assumptions, and reaches conclusions based strictly on those base assumptions. These assumptions and opinions are rarely reflective or representative of outer "Truth", but are largely formulated from prior conditioning and imprinting, and may be formulated or retained out of fear. Linear thought does not deviate from this conditioning, but proceeds directly from it to a conclusion that is nearly identical to the original formulation of the statement. Most of the paradigms of this world, including the ones upon which business, religion, and government are based, proceed from this limited sphere of information processing. Because so much of linear thought is based on fixed opinion or assumption, linear-based statements, fiats, and policies tend to be populated with "shoulds", "oughts", and "musts". A few examples of statements proceeding from linear thought are given below:
"I'll always be overweight because everyone else in my family is." (Based on the assumptions that A) there are no differences in individual genes B) the person is powerless to change their condition because of "fate" C) because XXXXX person told me so, it must be true.)
"People who believe in or do XXXXXXX are going to Hell." (Based on the assumptions that A) there is such a place as Hell to begin with B) that mere belief in or action upon XXXXXXX is cause to be damned eternally to said alleged location, regardless of other conflicting actions or beliefs."
"All women are manipulative and are out to trap men at every turn." (Based on the assumptions that A) women are this way because my dad/brother/uncle/whoever told me so B) because a girl in high school treated me this way, all girls/women will treat me the same way C) my mother took my dad to the "cleaners" during their divorce, etc.)
As you can see, linear thought is extremely limiting; yet, so many of the tenets of our society are based upon it. Our credit system, for example, biases against people who could and would pay back their debts because they have no prior credit history, based on a scant population of people who will never pay back debts. Thus, an assumption is made that "all people will cheat you unless proven otherwise," and linear thought proceeds to a conclusion that refuses to allow the "good" person a chance to prove themselves otherwise! Those credit companies who do decide to take a risk on those with unproven credit often levy enormous interest rates and penalties against such people, making it much more difficult for them to meet their obligations, based again on the above limiting linear assumption and conclusion.
To truly free yourself from the trap of linear thought, start becoming aware of it. When someone makes a statement, especially one that seems over-generalizable or proceeding from a series of "shoulds" or "oughts", question it! Ask "why?" or "what's really being said here?" When you find yourself making such blanket statments or drawing such conclusions, think deeply upon what that conclusion is based upon and examine those base assumptions and opinions. Are they truly yours? Are they founded in outer reality, or on inner fear? Do they echo the opinions of your mother/father/ grandparents/ siblings/ teacher/ minister/ whoever? Are there alternative situations which may disprove that statement or conclusion? (For example, the linear conclusion "All women are manipulative" can be dispersed by calling to mind any personal female friends or relatives who have never manipulated you or violated your trust).
The entity known as Kryon challenges us to "not think like humans"; in short, not to engage in linear thought. Left to its own devices, linear thought propagates itself, building further erroneous conclusions based on prior erroneous conclusions and assumptions. Taking careful assessment of one's thought process and upon what it is based is a large step to freeing oneself from the "wheel of linear thought."
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/cognition.html
Cognition is the process of developing one's style of thinking, learning, and processing information. While third-dimensional humans cannot ideate (create an idea), and few can formulate a REAL thought, other than opinions about their emotions, the act of cognition stems from the level of the Soul; stepped down through the three lower planes to make impression upon a physical-dense brain.
There are actually four levels of cognition with which humanity in lesson may process, yet humanity en masse today only works with the lowest processing level, that of linear thought. A few people are able to cognize at the level of associative, or "inner thought", and even fewer are reaching to work with pure mental, or "lateral thought" processing. Only those people who are working in direct contact with their souls are able to begin working with soul-thought, also known as "spherical" thought.
Linear Thought
That level of humanity which is receptive only to the physical plane and the impress of their five senses (sight, hearing, taste, touch, and smell) are limited to the realm of linear thought. Linear thought is limited to the physical dense realm; proceeds from a set of fixed opinions or assumptions, and reaches conclusions based strictly on those base assumptions. These assumptions and opinions are rarely reflective or representative of outer "Truth", but are largely formulated from prior conditioning and imprinting, and may be formulated or retained out of fear. Linear thought does not deviate from this conditioning, but proceeds directly from it to a conclusion that is nearly identical to the original formulation of the statement. Most of the paradigms of this world, including the ones upon which business, religion, and government are based, proceed from this limited sphere of information processing. Because so much of linear thought is based on fixed opinion or assumption, linear-based statements, fiats, and policies tend to be populated with "shoulds", "oughts", and "musts". A few examples of statements proceeding from linear thought are given below:
"I'll always be overweight because everyone else in my family is." (Based on the assumptions that A) there are no differences in individual genes B) the person is powerless to change their condition because of "fate" C) because XXXXX person told me so, it must be true.)
"People who believe in or do XXXXXXX are going to Hell." (Based on the assumptions that A) there is such a place as Hell to begin with B) that mere belief in or action upon XXXXXXX is cause to be damned eternally to said alleged location, regardless of other conflicting actions or beliefs."
"All women are manipulative and are out to trap men at every turn." (Based on the assumptions that A) women are this way because my dad/brother/uncle/whoever told me so B) because a girl in high school treated me this way, all girls/women will treat me the same way C) my mother took my dad to the "cleaners" during their divorce, etc.)
As you can see, linear thought is extremely limiting; yet, so many of the tenets of our society are based upon it. Our credit system, for example, biases against people who could and would pay back their debts because they have no prior credit history, based on a scant population of people who will never pay back debts. Thus, an assumption is made that "all people will cheat you unless proven otherwise," and linear thought proceeds to a conclusion that refuses to allow the "good" person a chance to prove themselves otherwise! Those credit companies who do decide to take a risk on those with unproven credit often levy enormous interest rates and penalties against such people, making it much more difficult for them to meet their obligations, based again on the above limiting linear assumption and conclusion.
To truly free yourself from the trap of linear thought, start becoming aware of it. When someone makes a statement, especially one that seems over-generalizable or proceeding from a series of "shoulds" or "oughts", question it! Ask "why?" or "what's really being said here?" When you find yourself making such blanket statments or drawing such conclusions, think deeply upon what that conclusion is based upon and examine those base assumptions and opinions. Are they truly yours? Are they founded in outer reality, or on inner fear? Do they echo the opinions of your mother/father/ grandparents/ siblings/ teacher/ minister/ whoever? Are there alternative situations which may disprove that statement or conclusion? (For example, the linear conclusion "All women are manipulative" can be dispersed by calling to mind any personal female friends or relatives who have never manipulated you or violated your trust).
The entity known as Kryon challenges us to "not think like humans"; in short, not to engage in linear thought. Left to its own devices, linear thought propagates itself, building further erroneous conclusions based on prior erroneous conclusions and assumptions. Taking careful assessment of one's thought process and upon what it is based is a large step to freeing oneself from the "wheel of linear thought."
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/cognition.html
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/cognition.html
25 September 2016 00:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Grail Catechism
Q: What is the Quest?
A: To seek the Grail.
Q: What is the Grail?
A: It has many forms.
Q: How can I seek the Unknown?
A: By following the path which will reveal Itself to you.
Q: Where does such a path begin?
A: Here, at your very doorstep.
Q: If I shall accomplish my Quest, what shall I do?
A: You will return and create a Garden.
Q: But what if the Grail has no physical form?
A: You will awaken the hearts of those around you.
Q: Will you come with me?
A: You will travel alone, but the Keeper of the Grail will be near you.
Q: Is the Quest easy?
A: Yes, but the path is long and the task heavy.
Q: Shall I accomplish this task?
A: All who go forth upon the Quest achieve their true aim, but not all have the wisdom to know this.
Q: Can you give me something to aid me?
A: I will give you my blessing.
Q: What should I take with me?
A: Your Courage, your Love, and your Dedication.
Q: What shall I tell those I meet?
A: That you seek the key to Paradise, that all people may return there.
Q: And if they mock me?
A: Their laughter shall bear you up.
Q: And if they scorn and shun me?
A: Their sadness shall be a spur unto you.
Q: In what place is the Grail hidden?
A: In the maze at the heart of the Castle.
Q: Where does that Castle stand?
A: Deep in the Forest of Forgetting.
Q: How shall I recognize the Castle?
A: By the voice of the EverRunning River.
Q: How shall I cross such a river?
A: On a boat of your dreams.
Q: What is the key to the Maze?
A: The song that is in your Heart.
Q: How shall I enter the Castle?
A: The GateKeeper will direct you.
Q: With what shall I pay him?
A: With your memories of the outer world.
Q: How then shall I return?
A: Upon the path of Moonbeams and forgotten Dreams.
Q: Can you not speak to me more plainly?
A: I cannot explain to you things that are not of This world.
Q: It is my will to take up this quest. Will you give me your blessing?
A: Gladly.
"Blessed are they who set out upon the Endless Quest,
Blessed are they who walk through the Darkness, seeking the Light,
Blessed are they who, abandoning all worldly pursuits, seek the Gates of Paradise,
Blessed are they who, upon attaining the Gates of Paradise, turn back,
That they may lead all their Brethren to their Rightful Home,
Be Thy Ways Ever Blessed."
Return to The Metaphysical Barbarian.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/grail.html
Q: What is the Quest?
A: To seek the Grail.
Q: What is the Grail?
A: It has many forms.
Q: How can I seek the Unknown?
A: By following the path which will reveal Itself to you.
Q: Where does such a path begin?
A: Here, at your very doorstep.
Q: If I shall accomplish my Quest, what shall I do?
A: You will return and create a Garden.
Q: But what if the Grail has no physical form?
A: You will awaken the hearts of those around you.
Q: Will you come with me?
A: You will travel alone, but the Keeper of the Grail will be near you.
Q: Is the Quest easy?
A: Yes, but the path is long and the task heavy.
Q: Shall I accomplish this task?
A: All who go forth upon the Quest achieve their true aim, but not all have the wisdom to know this.
Q: Can you give me something to aid me?
A: I will give you my blessing.
Q: What should I take with me?
A: Your Courage, your Love, and your Dedication.
Q: What shall I tell those I meet?
A: That you seek the key to Paradise, that all people may return there.
Q: And if they mock me?
A: Their laughter shall bear you up.
Q: And if they scorn and shun me?
A: Their sadness shall be a spur unto you.
Q: In what place is the Grail hidden?
A: In the maze at the heart of the Castle.
Q: Where does that Castle stand?
A: Deep in the Forest of Forgetting.
Q: How shall I recognize the Castle?
A: By the voice of the EverRunning River.
Q: How shall I cross such a river?
A: On a boat of your dreams.
Q: What is the key to the Maze?
A: The song that is in your Heart.
Q: How shall I enter the Castle?
A: The GateKeeper will direct you.
Q: With what shall I pay him?
A: With your memories of the outer world.
Q: How then shall I return?
A: Upon the path of Moonbeams and forgotten Dreams.
Q: Can you not speak to me more plainly?
A: I cannot explain to you things that are not of This world.
Q: It is my will to take up this quest. Will you give me your blessing?
A: Gladly.
"Blessed are they who set out upon the Endless Quest,
Blessed are they who walk through the Darkness, seeking the Light,
Blessed are they who, abandoning all worldly pursuits, seek the Gates of Paradise,
Blessed are they who, upon attaining the Gates of Paradise, turn back,
That they may lead all their Brethren to their Rightful Home,
Be Thy Ways Ever Blessed."
Return to The Metaphysical Barbarian.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/grail.html
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/grail.html
25 September 2016 00:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Look @ Notes
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/10comm.html
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/10comm.html
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/10comm.html
25 September 2016 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But yea, good to read another dimension expansion... but be careful of mistaking against fixed facts
25 September 2016 00:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
A branch of Asatru refers to itself as "Folkish Asatru". This particular denomination of Asatru claims to be the one "true" Asatru, descended from the ancient Northern European religion. Members of Folkish Asatru claim that bloodline is the strongest determinant of whether or not a person may practice the Norse Heathen faith. Although they claim not to be racist (actually, not to be supremacist), their fundamental practices are based upon race. Folkish Asatru tend to be intolerant of other heathen practices and of people of non-Nordic/Germanic descent practicing Asatru.
Another branch of heathenry is Norse Wicca, which is gaining popularity among the Wiccan community. Norse Wicca is a synthetic religion that is based out of Gardnerian Wicca, using the Norse pantheon of deities. It's philosophy is that there is a God and Goddess (Lord and Lady), and all other Gods and Goddesses are reflections of the one great Masculine and Feminine principle. Because it is a synthetic religion, many practitioners of Norse Wicca frequently "borrow" elements from other religious practices and pantheons; thus you now have Runic studies mixed in with Native American traditions, or Norse deities wedded to Egyptian archetypes among members of the more "electic" forms of this worship. Needless to say, such practices are regularly looked askance by the more traditional heathen community, and Norse Wicca generally does not enjoy a favorable reputation among fundamentalist practitioners of Asatru. I personally feel that if a person derives spiritual meaning from a particular religious "blend", then more power to them; just refer to it as "Wicca", and not as "Asatru", which it is not.
Yet another branch of heathenry calls itself "Odinism." It is very close to Asatru, but with more emphasis on magical working rather than religious practices. I find that more solitary practitioners are drawn to this form rather than to Asatru, even though the two are so close in their practices as to be nigh-well undistinguishable. Again, I find the main difference to be upon the emphasis of magickal working rather than ceremonial religious ritual. Unfortunately, many people who profess to be Odinists use the term for their own political agendas of racism and White Supremacy. This is not what this form of worship is about; Racism is a political agenda, not a religious one. Don't let anyone try to tell you differently.
Another form of heathenry is Theodism, or that of the Old English (Anglo-Saxon) tradition. Theodism follows the practice of following a "Sacred King," although the same Gods and much of the same tradition is practiced as Asatru.
Finally, there are practitioners of Norse Heathenism who are simply interested in the ancient folk beliefs and practices of the Northern Europeans. These tend to be strictly solitary practitioners, most of them hailing back to the Old World; with family legends and religious practices that go back for generations.
Another branch of heathenry is Norse Wicca, which is gaining popularity among the Wiccan community. Norse Wicca is a synthetic religion that is based out of Gardnerian Wicca, using the Norse pantheon of deities. It's philosophy is that there is a God and Goddess (Lord and Lady), and all other Gods and Goddesses are reflections of the one great Masculine and Feminine principle. Because it is a synthetic religion, many practitioners of Norse Wicca frequently "borrow" elements from other religious practices and pantheons; thus you now have Runic studies mixed in with Native American traditions, or Norse deities wedded to Egyptian archetypes among members of the more "electic" forms of this worship. Needless to say, such practices are regularly looked askance by the more traditional heathen community, and Norse Wicca generally does not enjoy a favorable reputation among fundamentalist practitioners of Asatru. I personally feel that if a person derives spiritual meaning from a particular religious "blend", then more power to them; just refer to it as "Wicca", and not as "Asatru", which it is not.
Yet another branch of heathenry calls itself "Odinism." It is very close to Asatru, but with more emphasis on magical working rather than religious practices. I find that more solitary practitioners are drawn to this form rather than to Asatru, even though the two are so close in their practices as to be nigh-well undistinguishable. Again, I find the main difference to be upon the emphasis of magickal working rather than ceremonial religious ritual. Unfortunately, many people who profess to be Odinists use the term for their own political agendas of racism and White Supremacy. This is not what this form of worship is about; Racism is a political agenda, not a religious one. Don't let anyone try to tell you differently.
Another form of heathenry is Theodism, or that of the Old English (Anglo-Saxon) tradition. Theodism follows the practice of following a "Sacred King," although the same Gods and much of the same tradition is practiced as Asatru.
Finally, there are practitioners of Norse Heathenism who are simply interested in the ancient folk beliefs and practices of the Northern Europeans. These tend to be strictly solitary practitioners, most of them hailing back to the Old World; with family legends and religious practices that go back for generations.
25 September 2016 00:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Norse Religion, or Heathenry, is the modern-day practice of the ancient tribal belief systems of the Northern European peoples; the Teutons (continental Germanic tribes) and the Norse (Scandinavian and Gothic tribes). Although their deities were pretty much the same, they were pronounced differently among the various tribes. Thus you have Odin among the Norse, and Wotan or Wodan among the Teutons; Thor or Thonar among the Norse, and Donar or Donner among the Teutons.
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I believe that it is similar to most pagan traditions. They have an emphasis on family and community rather than the environment though. Oh and of course they follow Frey and Odin and all that crew rather than Cernununununous or Hecate or some stuff. But similar to most neo-pagans what one person does may be vastly different to another.
Odinism might be a bit more extreme in their beliefs compared to Asatru or Norse Heathens.
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What is Norse Religion?
Norse Religion, or Heathenry, is the modern-day practice of the ancient tribal belief systems of the Northern European peoples; the Teutons (continental Germanic tribes) and the Norse (Scandinavian and Gothic tribes). Although their deities were pretty much the same, they were pronounced differently among the various tribes. Thus you have Odin among the Norse, and Wotan or Wodan among the Teutons; Thor or Thonar among the Norse, and Donar or Donner among the Teutons.
There are several different modern practices of Heathenry. The main religious tradition is known as Asatru, meaning "loyalty or troth to the Gods." The main focus of Asatru has been to recapture and reconstruct the ancient tribal religion of the Norse through the recordings of the lore and the sagas. Unfortunately, most sagas are not intact, and have been highly influenced by Christian philosophy, so the task of reconstruction is rather difficult. Asatru is one of the noblest religions, but it's current infrastructure lends itself to some squabbling and infighting among the various sects concerning interpretations of the sagas, due in part to the unavailability of complete information. There is also great disparity among the groups, ranging from those who believe that only those of the Nordic/Germanic blood line can practice Asatru, to more progressive branches which welcome all people. Asatru, however, is not about political agendas, but about in pledging one's faith to the Gods and living one's life in the most honorable manner. Asatru is also very much concerned with maintaining family and community; two major concerns of the Germanic/Norse peoples.
https://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080904043342AAVCoXR
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I believe that it is similar to most pagan traditions. They have an emphasis on family and community rather than the environment though. Oh and of course they follow Frey and Odin and all that crew rather than Cernununununous or Hecate or some stuff. But similar to most neo-pagans what one person does may be vastly different to another.
Odinism might be a bit more extreme in their beliefs compared to Asatru or Norse Heathens.
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What is Norse Religion?
Norse Religion, or Heathenry, is the modern-day practice of the ancient tribal belief systems of the Northern European peoples; the Teutons (continental Germanic tribes) and the Norse (Scandinavian and Gothic tribes). Although their deities were pretty much the same, they were pronounced differently among the various tribes. Thus you have Odin among the Norse, and Wotan or Wodan among the Teutons; Thor or Thonar among the Norse, and Donar or Donner among the Teutons.
There are several different modern practices of Heathenry. The main religious tradition is known as Asatru, meaning "loyalty or troth to the Gods." The main focus of Asatru has been to recapture and reconstruct the ancient tribal religion of the Norse through the recordings of the lore and the sagas. Unfortunately, most sagas are not intact, and have been highly influenced by Christian philosophy, so the task of reconstruction is rather difficult. Asatru is one of the noblest religions, but it's current infrastructure lends itself to some squabbling and infighting among the various sects concerning interpretations of the sagas, due in part to the unavailability of complete information. There is also great disparity among the groups, ranging from those who believe that only those of the Nordic/Germanic blood line can practice Asatru, to more progressive branches which welcome all people. Asatru, however, is not about political agendas, but about in pledging one's faith to the Gods and living one's life in the most honorable manner. Asatru is also very much concerned with maintaining family and community; two major concerns of the Germanic/Norse peoples.
https://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080904043342AAVCoXR
https://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080904043342AAVCoXR
25 September 2016 00:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
he Barbarian Essays
These are essays that I have written to address some of the issues surrounding Ascension and what we as a race of beings need to focus upon.
As the human soul progresses through its incarnations, it chooses one of four soul types, or vocations, to work through its particular lessons of incarnation. The Four Soul Types page discusses these four basic soul vocations: Warrior, Wizard, Thief, and Priest, and talks about them in considerable depth.
The nature of a persona should be duality (Body and Essence), yet, in third-dimensional expression, the Persona acquires an unwelcome third part, that of the Role, or "false persona". The Triadic Persona examines the nature of this "Role", and offers solutions as to how to free oneself from being entrapped by it.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/triadic.html
The Triadic Harmonium is the true soul-level elements of creation. Rather than the standard esoteric elements of Fire, Air, Water, and Earth, the Harmonium consists of three elemental expressions: that of the Celestial, Photonic, and Hydraulic realms. This essay examines these three realms and their purpose in the Creation process.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/harmonium.html
The 10 Commandments Revisited concerns the 10 commandments and how they may be interpreted in the light of the New Age and Ascension. The commandments are examined critically in terms of Spirit and the One Life, rather than in social and political trends as has been historically done.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/10comm.html
Although I did not write this, The Grail Catechism (anonymous) is a beautiful piece of work regarding the Ascension process and our duties as Disciples of the New Energy. In particular, the Grail Blessing at the bottom of the page truly speaks to all of humanity.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/grail.html
Esoteric Cognition is my page dealing with the four levels of human thought: Linear thought, Associative thought, Lateral thought, and Spherical thought. Examples of each are shown on this page, along with several resources on helping to increase the power of your own thoughts and creativity.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/cognition.html
Where does Alcohol and other substances fit in to the overall scheme of the Divine Plan? Why is it so prevalent here in this world? Esoteric Libation examines the nature of substance alchemy; determining which is benign, and which can lead to ruin.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/libation.html
Links to Other Sites related to Ascension and World Service
Global Meditations http://globalmeditations.com/
SpiritWorld http://www.wizardrealm.com/spiritworld/
Ontario Consultants for Religious Tolerance http://www.religioustolerance.org/
Salem New Age Center http://www.salemctr.com/newage.html
Spirit-WWW http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit.html
World Transformation Network http://www.worldtrans.org/
White Mountain Educational Association http://www.wmea-world.org/
The Great Invocation http://www.wmea-world.org/tgi.html
Rosicrucian Order (AMORC) http://www.rosicrucian.org/
Association for Research and Enlightenment (ARE) http://www.are-cayce.com/
Association of Unity Churches http://www.unity.org/
Unity World Headquarters Site http://www.unityworldhq.org/
Unitarian Universalist Association http://www.uua.org/main.html
The Sedona Journal http://www.sedonajo.com/
Contact sazerac1963@yahoo.com for more information.
These are essays that I have written to address some of the issues surrounding Ascension and what we as a race of beings need to focus upon.
As the human soul progresses through its incarnations, it chooses one of four soul types, or vocations, to work through its particular lessons of incarnation. The Four Soul Types page discusses these four basic soul vocations: Warrior, Wizard, Thief, and Priest, and talks about them in considerable depth.
The nature of a persona should be duality (Body and Essence), yet, in third-dimensional expression, the Persona acquires an unwelcome third part, that of the Role, or "false persona". The Triadic Persona examines the nature of this "Role", and offers solutions as to how to free oneself from being entrapped by it.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/triadic.html
The Triadic Harmonium is the true soul-level elements of creation. Rather than the standard esoteric elements of Fire, Air, Water, and Earth, the Harmonium consists of three elemental expressions: that of the Celestial, Photonic, and Hydraulic realms. This essay examines these three realms and their purpose in the Creation process.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/harmonium.html
The 10 Commandments Revisited concerns the 10 commandments and how they may be interpreted in the light of the New Age and Ascension. The commandments are examined critically in terms of Spirit and the One Life, rather than in social and political trends as has been historically done.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/10comm.html
Although I did not write this, The Grail Catechism (anonymous) is a beautiful piece of work regarding the Ascension process and our duties as Disciples of the New Energy. In particular, the Grail Blessing at the bottom of the page truly speaks to all of humanity.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/grail.html
Esoteric Cognition is my page dealing with the four levels of human thought: Linear thought, Associative thought, Lateral thought, and Spherical thought. Examples of each are shown on this page, along with several resources on helping to increase the power of your own thoughts and creativity.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/cognition.html
Where does Alcohol and other substances fit in to the overall scheme of the Divine Plan? Why is it so prevalent here in this world? Esoteric Libation examines the nature of substance alchemy; determining which is benign, and which can lead to ruin.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/libation.html
Links to Other Sites related to Ascension and World Service
Global Meditations http://globalmeditations.com/
SpiritWorld http://www.wizardrealm.com/spiritworld/
Ontario Consultants for Religious Tolerance http://www.religioustolerance.org/
Salem New Age Center http://www.salemctr.com/newage.html
Spirit-WWW http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit.html
World Transformation Network http://www.worldtrans.org/
White Mountain Educational Association http://www.wmea-world.org/
The Great Invocation http://www.wmea-world.org/tgi.html
Rosicrucian Order (AMORC) http://www.rosicrucian.org/
Association for Research and Enlightenment (ARE) http://www.are-cayce.com/
Association of Unity Churches http://www.unity.org/
Unity World Headquarters Site http://www.unityworldhq.org/
Unitarian Universalist Association http://www.uua.org/main.html
The Sedona Journal http://www.sedonajo.com/
Contact sazerac1963@yahoo.com for more information.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/triadic.html
24 September 2016 23:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So what should we do to aid in the process of "Graduate Status" for the Earth and for ourselves?
1. First and foremost, heal yourselves. It's been a long and difficult, albeit rewarding journey, for us to be where we are now. There have been many hurts along the way. It's time to acknowledge those "hurts," to honor them for the service they have given us, and with humor and love, relinquish them because we need them no longer. As we heal ourselves, we heal the planet as well because we and the Earth are one. Many may not know where to begin the healing process, because it seems so daunting. As the taoist Lao Tzu once said, "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." Further down on this page, there are links to internet sites and organizations who specialize in helping others heal their individual souls.
2. Next, be aware of Truth in all of its manifest forms. All Truth is paradox, so to speak, and everything that exists in this galaxy contains at least a grain of Truth at its very core. When confronted with an issue that you do not understand, do not toss it aside as a falsehood, but simply file it away, detachedly, until such information is revealed that either confirms its validity or invalidates it. Keeping an open, yet critical, mind is essential to developing a good discriminating ability. Learn to listen with both your heart and your head. When both are in agreement about an issue, you will know that it is true. If they are in conflict over a particular issue or situation, it is best to not act until you obtain more information about the situation that clarifies it for you.
3. Give up restrictive thought forms and open your mind to new ideas. In the western world, we carry a legacy of religious oppression and restriction dating back to over 3,000 years. Mainstream western religion was created in an effort to stifle individual creativity and personal power, in fear that the masses would rise up in revolt against those in power. False teachings of the inherent unworthiness of humanity and of the Earth itself have created much misery and despair, and have contributed to the exploitation of this planet by those who consider the Earth to be evil or corrupt by its very nature. There has been enough hurt. Even those seeking along the lines of the New Energy carry much of this old baggage with them. Seek to free yourself from this restrictive thinking and mindset about yourself and the world, and recognize the divinity inherent in all creation, great or small.
In the name of religion much atrocity is committed. This is not only for extremist cults from the mainstream religions of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, but can extend to any religious form, even New Age religious and philosophical groups such as Christian Science, Edgar Cayce, or "Course in Miracles." The tragic cases of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco under self-proclaimed messiah David Koresh, the Jim Jones tragedy during the 1970's, and, most recently, the Heaven's Gate mass suicide in March 1997 are but a few examples of the worst-case consequences of such extremist mindforms and thought. Any religion or philosophical thought-form that seeks to demean, abuse, or control you or take away your personal power, stay away from! The New Energies have no place for those who would seek to dominate or enslave others in the name of Spirit.
4. Overcome your fear. Fear is the greatest deterrent to our advancement as a sentient race. Guilt, which is fear internalized and directed towards oneself, is the most heinous form of this negative emotion, because it stifles our efforts at growth and development. Much of this guilt was levied at us in childhood by our well-meaning, but misguided, parents, teachers, and peers; and it keeps getting reinforced by the negative messages others and ourselves keep sending to ourselves. Overcoming guilt and fear is the largest step to liberating the Human Soul. It is a difficult process, and it takes much work. Getting to know yourself through playful activity, meditation, and spiritual study help much to alleviate your existential guilt and fear. So can talking over your fears with others; including trained professionals and metaphysicians who can help you ferret out the root cause of your fears and guilt. Once much of those negative emotions and reinforcements are out of your way, you can achieve true spiritual growth.
5. Meditate. Practice a regular meditation schedule, even if it is just for a few minutes each day. Don't use meditation as a method of "zoning out," but as a method of connecting in to the Universal Source of all energy. In the past, meditation exercises were heavily into relaxation techniques in order to get the individual prepared to tap in to the Universal Source. Now, with the energy fields surrounding the Earth changing, meditation has become very proactive and interactive with the environment itself. Use meditation as a tool to effecting positive, conscious change in your life and environment.
6. Remember to do things for yourself. Don't get so caught up in trying to do so much for others, that you forget the most important person of all--you. Exercise a little each day, but make it something fun rather than grueling or taxing. Take care of your health. Remember to eat well and get enough sleep, especially during these times of energy changes. Do little things for yourself that make you happy. When you are happy and healthy, you change the energy fields around you, which in turn help raise the vibrational level of your environment.
7. Reach out to others. I don't mean "proselytize" or try to convince others of your particular point of view to the detriment of their own. That is an exercise in separativism and egoistic futility, and one that humanity would do well to purge from its particular habit-forms. Tolerance for the
methods of others' service to the Plan is paramount to aiding the increase of the vibrational energy. By reaching out to others, be ready to offer them assistance when asked. Stand receptive to the higher energies and relay them to others by increasing your own vibrational level (existing in a positive state of awareness and radiating that out to Humanity). When you overcome a particular negativity or solve a particular problem or situation in your own life, radiate the solution to others in meditation so that the answer is available to them, making it easier for them to work through their own situations. You never know when someone may do this for you as well!
8. It's the little things that matter. You don't need to address the United Nations or join the Peace Corps to help make a difference. Sometimes we get so caught up in the glamour of these activities that we forget that the smaller, more local efforts are just as important, if not more so. Pick up litter wherever and whenever you are able to do so. Practice recycling. Smile at a stranger. Play with your children. Practice "random acts of kindness" for others. Remember not to do too much, because you need time for yourself as well. If everyone were to commit just 15 minutes of time a day doing something positive for the Earth, the results would be phenomenal.
That's really all you need to do. There is no guarantee that by following these suggestions that there will be no more problems in your life. However, you will be better equipped to work with them in a positive way, and not let them get to you as much as they used to. You'll notice a change in yourself, and in the way others relate to you...and it will be for the good! Have fun with it.
1. First and foremost, heal yourselves. It's been a long and difficult, albeit rewarding journey, for us to be where we are now. There have been many hurts along the way. It's time to acknowledge those "hurts," to honor them for the service they have given us, and with humor and love, relinquish them because we need them no longer. As we heal ourselves, we heal the planet as well because we and the Earth are one. Many may not know where to begin the healing process, because it seems so daunting. As the taoist Lao Tzu once said, "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." Further down on this page, there are links to internet sites and organizations who specialize in helping others heal their individual souls.
2. Next, be aware of Truth in all of its manifest forms. All Truth is paradox, so to speak, and everything that exists in this galaxy contains at least a grain of Truth at its very core. When confronted with an issue that you do not understand, do not toss it aside as a falsehood, but simply file it away, detachedly, until such information is revealed that either confirms its validity or invalidates it. Keeping an open, yet critical, mind is essential to developing a good discriminating ability. Learn to listen with both your heart and your head. When both are in agreement about an issue, you will know that it is true. If they are in conflict over a particular issue or situation, it is best to not act until you obtain more information about the situation that clarifies it for you.
3. Give up restrictive thought forms and open your mind to new ideas. In the western world, we carry a legacy of religious oppression and restriction dating back to over 3,000 years. Mainstream western religion was created in an effort to stifle individual creativity and personal power, in fear that the masses would rise up in revolt against those in power. False teachings of the inherent unworthiness of humanity and of the Earth itself have created much misery and despair, and have contributed to the exploitation of this planet by those who consider the Earth to be evil or corrupt by its very nature. There has been enough hurt. Even those seeking along the lines of the New Energy carry much of this old baggage with them. Seek to free yourself from this restrictive thinking and mindset about yourself and the world, and recognize the divinity inherent in all creation, great or small.
In the name of religion much atrocity is committed. This is not only for extremist cults from the mainstream religions of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, but can extend to any religious form, even New Age religious and philosophical groups such as Christian Science, Edgar Cayce, or "Course in Miracles." The tragic cases of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco under self-proclaimed messiah David Koresh, the Jim Jones tragedy during the 1970's, and, most recently, the Heaven's Gate mass suicide in March 1997 are but a few examples of the worst-case consequences of such extremist mindforms and thought. Any religion or philosophical thought-form that seeks to demean, abuse, or control you or take away your personal power, stay away from! The New Energies have no place for those who would seek to dominate or enslave others in the name of Spirit.
4. Overcome your fear. Fear is the greatest deterrent to our advancement as a sentient race. Guilt, which is fear internalized and directed towards oneself, is the most heinous form of this negative emotion, because it stifles our efforts at growth and development. Much of this guilt was levied at us in childhood by our well-meaning, but misguided, parents, teachers, and peers; and it keeps getting reinforced by the negative messages others and ourselves keep sending to ourselves. Overcoming guilt and fear is the largest step to liberating the Human Soul. It is a difficult process, and it takes much work. Getting to know yourself through playful activity, meditation, and spiritual study help much to alleviate your existential guilt and fear. So can talking over your fears with others; including trained professionals and metaphysicians who can help you ferret out the root cause of your fears and guilt. Once much of those negative emotions and reinforcements are out of your way, you can achieve true spiritual growth.
5. Meditate. Practice a regular meditation schedule, even if it is just for a few minutes each day. Don't use meditation as a method of "zoning out," but as a method of connecting in to the Universal Source of all energy. In the past, meditation exercises were heavily into relaxation techniques in order to get the individual prepared to tap in to the Universal Source. Now, with the energy fields surrounding the Earth changing, meditation has become very proactive and interactive with the environment itself. Use meditation as a tool to effecting positive, conscious change in your life and environment.
6. Remember to do things for yourself. Don't get so caught up in trying to do so much for others, that you forget the most important person of all--you. Exercise a little each day, but make it something fun rather than grueling or taxing. Take care of your health. Remember to eat well and get enough sleep, especially during these times of energy changes. Do little things for yourself that make you happy. When you are happy and healthy, you change the energy fields around you, which in turn help raise the vibrational level of your environment.
7. Reach out to others. I don't mean "proselytize" or try to convince others of your particular point of view to the detriment of their own. That is an exercise in separativism and egoistic futility, and one that humanity would do well to purge from its particular habit-forms. Tolerance for the
methods of others' service to the Plan is paramount to aiding the increase of the vibrational energy. By reaching out to others, be ready to offer them assistance when asked. Stand receptive to the higher energies and relay them to others by increasing your own vibrational level (existing in a positive state of awareness and radiating that out to Humanity). When you overcome a particular negativity or solve a particular problem or situation in your own life, radiate the solution to others in meditation so that the answer is available to them, making it easier for them to work through their own situations. You never know when someone may do this for you as well!
8. It's the little things that matter. You don't need to address the United Nations or join the Peace Corps to help make a difference. Sometimes we get so caught up in the glamour of these activities that we forget that the smaller, more local efforts are just as important, if not more so. Pick up litter wherever and whenever you are able to do so. Practice recycling. Smile at a stranger. Play with your children. Practice "random acts of kindness" for others. Remember not to do too much, because you need time for yourself as well. If everyone were to commit just 15 minutes of time a day doing something positive for the Earth, the results would be phenomenal.
That's really all you need to do. There is no guarantee that by following these suggestions that there will be no more problems in your life. However, you will be better equipped to work with them in a positive way, and not let them get to you as much as they used to. You'll notice a change in yourself, and in the way others relate to you...and it will be for the good! Have fun with it.
24 September 2016 23:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Metaphysics is the study of the Greater Reality that underlies all physically perceived reality. In ancient times it was referred to as "witchcraft", "magick", "the occult", and was viewed with fear. At one time that fear was warranted, because of the many misuses and abuses of the power that came with the understanding of that Greater Reality. This was the same fear that has crippled humanity since the fall of that ancient civilization known as Atlantis, when the connection to the spiritual planes of awareness was broken and we were "cast adrift," so to speak.
Today, metaphysics addresses a much-neglected topic in the world today: that of the spiritual awareness of humanity. Even as short a period of time as 25 years ago, metaphysical topics were branded as "evil" or "unholy", both by those who truly feared them because of their backgrounds, or those who feared them because of the liberating power such studies gave to the individual. Books on metaphysics such as Astrology, Wicca, Magick, Parapsychology, and the ancient Wisdom Teachings were relegated to back bookshelves in bookstores (if one could find them at all!) and labelled, or rather branded, "Occult."
In 1987, a call went around the world during the month of August to hold a mass meditation. This meditation, later known as the Harmonic Convergence, went on for 3 days, and indeed was heard across the Cosmos. By doing so, we were able to raise the energy level of Earth to a vibrational level high enough that many of the doomsday prophecies of the past (Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, the Revelations of the Bible, the Ragnarok of the Vikings, the prophecies of the Hopi nation) were wiped out and voided. Earth was no longer scheduled for "termination" at the end of this century because of the changes We, Humanity, had made, just in the last 50 years.
We are at the brink of a new millenium and a new era. However, there is still much fear because many people do not realize that the Plan for Humanity has changed. Many see the rising crime, the natural disasters, and other phenomenon as signs of an "End Time" Indeed it is an "End Time," but one much more different from what we had envisioned before. We're not out of the woods yet, but we now have a fighting chance to make something real of this world, to uplift and redeem the matter aspect of the Earth. The upheavals we see around us right now are indicative of the negativity that is around us fighting for survival; unwilling to change because to it, "change" means the same as "death." This is part of the illusion we have been dealing with for millenia, and its part of the thought processes that we must outgrow if we are to grow and continue with the service to the World and to the Cosmos.
Many refer to what we are going through now as the Earth being raised to "Graduate Status." Instead of terminating, all beings and the Earth itself as a sentient being, are participating in raising the vibrational level of the Earth until it moves from the 3rd dimension into the 4th dimension. This
process is called "Ascension," and it is this process that the so-called "Ascension Movement" is concerned with. There is a lot of information regarding this process out on the Web; I have some of the better sites linked in at the bottom of this page.
In the 4th dimension, linear time as we know it will cease to exist. So will birth and death. Existence will be permanent. We will come to understand that we ARE, we exist, and that we neither had an inception nor a termination to that existence.
We don't really know where we are going with this "new energy." All we know is that it is going to be an adventure! There is no guarantee that everything will be all "sweetness and light," or that all beings even desire such a state of existence. Part of the fun of an adventure is to have a challenge. I for one would hate living in a plane of awareness in which there were no challenges or opportunities for growth. To me, that literally would be "hell."
Unfortunately, some of the people involved in the "New Age" movement, through their actions, have tended to make the movement seem cheapened and "tawdry" by their meretricious actions and "fluffybunny" outlook. The sad thing is that many seekers are turned off by this saccharine viewpoint, and look no further than the surface. Any movement will have its "fringe element," of course, and it is important to remember that just because a few people treat the New Age movement as a fad or an escapist device, that that is NOT what the movement is intrinsically about.
Many "soi-disant" metaphysicians and "New-Agers" are looking towards alien cultures (the Zeta Reticulii, or "greys", the Sirians, the Arcturans, the Pleiadeans, the Spicans, the Vegans, etc.) for the answers to what is happening on Earth. Many of these cultures do have valid information for us during this period of energy flux and confusion. However, the important thing for us as sentient beings with free will need to remember is that we are the masters of our own destinies. We have earned this right by our service, and it is ours to claim as our own. Rather than looking to other worlds, we need, first and foremost, to concentrate upon healing this world, our Earth. This is our legacy and our paradise, and we have no other.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/
Today, metaphysics addresses a much-neglected topic in the world today: that of the spiritual awareness of humanity. Even as short a period of time as 25 years ago, metaphysical topics were branded as "evil" or "unholy", both by those who truly feared them because of their backgrounds, or those who feared them because of the liberating power such studies gave to the individual. Books on metaphysics such as Astrology, Wicca, Magick, Parapsychology, and the ancient Wisdom Teachings were relegated to back bookshelves in bookstores (if one could find them at all!) and labelled, or rather branded, "Occult."
In 1987, a call went around the world during the month of August to hold a mass meditation. This meditation, later known as the Harmonic Convergence, went on for 3 days, and indeed was heard across the Cosmos. By doing so, we were able to raise the energy level of Earth to a vibrational level high enough that many of the doomsday prophecies of the past (Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, the Revelations of the Bible, the Ragnarok of the Vikings, the prophecies of the Hopi nation) were wiped out and voided. Earth was no longer scheduled for "termination" at the end of this century because of the changes We, Humanity, had made, just in the last 50 years.
We are at the brink of a new millenium and a new era. However, there is still much fear because many people do not realize that the Plan for Humanity has changed. Many see the rising crime, the natural disasters, and other phenomenon as signs of an "End Time" Indeed it is an "End Time," but one much more different from what we had envisioned before. We're not out of the woods yet, but we now have a fighting chance to make something real of this world, to uplift and redeem the matter aspect of the Earth. The upheavals we see around us right now are indicative of the negativity that is around us fighting for survival; unwilling to change because to it, "change" means the same as "death." This is part of the illusion we have been dealing with for millenia, and its part of the thought processes that we must outgrow if we are to grow and continue with the service to the World and to the Cosmos.
Many refer to what we are going through now as the Earth being raised to "Graduate Status." Instead of terminating, all beings and the Earth itself as a sentient being, are participating in raising the vibrational level of the Earth until it moves from the 3rd dimension into the 4th dimension. This
process is called "Ascension," and it is this process that the so-called "Ascension Movement" is concerned with. There is a lot of information regarding this process out on the Web; I have some of the better sites linked in at the bottom of this page.
In the 4th dimension, linear time as we know it will cease to exist. So will birth and death. Existence will be permanent. We will come to understand that we ARE, we exist, and that we neither had an inception nor a termination to that existence.
We don't really know where we are going with this "new energy." All we know is that it is going to be an adventure! There is no guarantee that everything will be all "sweetness and light," or that all beings even desire such a state of existence. Part of the fun of an adventure is to have a challenge. I for one would hate living in a plane of awareness in which there were no challenges or opportunities for growth. To me, that literally would be "hell."
Unfortunately, some of the people involved in the "New Age" movement, through their actions, have tended to make the movement seem cheapened and "tawdry" by their meretricious actions and "fluffybunny" outlook. The sad thing is that many seekers are turned off by this saccharine viewpoint, and look no further than the surface. Any movement will have its "fringe element," of course, and it is important to remember that just because a few people treat the New Age movement as a fad or an escapist device, that that is NOT what the movement is intrinsically about.
Many "soi-disant" metaphysicians and "New-Agers" are looking towards alien cultures (the Zeta Reticulii, or "greys", the Sirians, the Arcturans, the Pleiadeans, the Spicans, the Vegans, etc.) for the answers to what is happening on Earth. Many of these cultures do have valid information for us during this period of energy flux and confusion. However, the important thing for us as sentient beings with free will need to remember is that we are the masters of our own destinies. We have earned this right by our service, and it is ours to claim as our own. Rather than looking to other worlds, we need, first and foremost, to concentrate upon healing this world, our Earth. This is our legacy and our paradise, and we have no other.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/
24 September 2016 23:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
As writers and authors, Priests express stories as a way of inspiring and educating others rather than entertaining. Their tales usually have a moral or lesson implied; something that one may take away with them after it is all over. The stories of Priests speak of universal truth and timeless wisdom, stories that last through the ages. Noted Priest authors are: William Shakespeare, Rudyard Kipling, Hans Christian Anderson, Beatrix Potter, H.G. Wells, Emily Bronte, Bram Stoker, Mary Shelley, Milton, Euclid, Frank Baum, Cartoonist Charles Shultz, Kahlil Gibran, Thomas Hardy, Charles Dickens, Dante Aligheri, Omar Khayam, Dostoievsky, Jack London, Alexandre Dumas, Victor Hugo, C. S. Lewis, Upton Sinclair, H. L. Mencken, John Steinbeck, and Antoine Ste. Exupery.
Priests naturally gravitate toward the broadcast arts, as this allows them to disseminate the universal information to others very easily. Any of the broadcast media are useful to them. Famous broadcast personalities such as Art Linkletter, Barbara Walters, Walter Cronkite, Ted Koppel, Wolfman Jack, Rona Barrett, Dick Clark, Ed Sullivan, and Paul Harvey are Priests.
As actors, Priests seek to inspire others, usually delivering a message or a deeper meaning through the roles they play. A Priest soul will seek out the limelight to enlighten others or bring an important concept to the masses. Famous Priest actors include Elizabeth Taylor, Vivien Leigh, Andy Griffith, Rock Hudson, Uma Thurman, Linda Evans, Larry Hagman, Rex Harrison, Abe Vigoda, Carroll O'Connor, Pat Boone, Demi Moore, Cybill Shepherd, Ricky Schroeder, Elsa Lanchester, John Travolta, Eddie Murphy, Shelley Duvall, Gene Wilder, Emma Thompson, Ted Danson, John Belushi, James Doohan, Kenneth Branaugh, Daniel-Day Lewis, Tom Hanks, Jason Priestly, Julia Roberts, Orson Welles, Jason Alexander, Robin Williams, Michelle Pfieffer, Jessica Tandy, Michael Palin (Monty Python), Patrick Stewart, Tom Cruise, Susan Sarandon, Mary Pickford, Veronica Lake, Hedy Lamarr, Ben Vereen, Audrey Hepburn, and Ginger Rogers.
Priests use music much the same way that Wizards do, except that Priests are more concerned with overtly bringing their listening audience to an emotional climax or catharsis than are Wizards (who are more interested in the beauty and majesty of the musical form in and of itself). Many Priest musicians are singers or extremely talented instrumentalists. Priests have tended recently to dominate the popular music scene because of the current Priest cycle (1992-2001). The alternative "grunge" movement is a direct function of the Priest group, in that it involves its target generation in an emotional outpouring and astral synthesis of expression. Famous Priest musicians and bands include: Johann Sebastian Bach, Johannes Brahms, Chopin, Tony Bennett, Guy Lombardo, Lawrence Welk, George Harrison, Dan Fogelberg, Cat Stevens, Kansas, Suzanne Vega, Whitney Houston, Carl Wilson (of the Beach Boys), Boy George, David Bowie, Sinead O'Connor, Matt Johnson (The The), REM, Kurt Cobain, Eddie Vedder, Tori Amos, Alanis Morrisette, Loreena McKinnett, Ace of Bass, Collective Soul, Ed Kowalczik (Live), Depeche Mode, Freddy Mercury (Queen), The Andrews Sisters, Ethel Merman, Dolly Parton, Erasure, and, more recently, Garbage and Vertical Horizon.
In Business, Priests will often gravitate to positions of great influence in a company, often taking the role of C.E.O. or president of a company because of their ability to inspire and motivate their employees and customers. Noted Priest businessmen include Stanley Marcus, Conrad Hilton, Ray Crock, Lee Iacocca, Andrew Carnegie, Nelson Rockefeller, and J.P. Morgan.
The two main challenges for priests to overcome is that of martyrdom and self-destruction. In their early cycles of incarnation, a Priest will work with martyrdom as a means for generating karma through sublimating their will to a cause or other entity. As time progresses, Priests began working with the challenge of self-destructive behavior patterns such as substance abuse, self-mutilation, co-dependency, and other destructive patterns.
Priests work best with Thieves, in that the Thief actively seeks the Priest to comfort and heal their wounds while Priests relish in the delightful energies generated by the Thief. Priests tend to find Warriors very abrasive during the early cycles, although they respect their self-sacrifice and duty to a cause. This respect increases as the souls progress in evolution. Wizards and Priests tend to get along fairly well, as both wield the power of magic well, but for different purposes.
Mythological archetypes for Priests include: Isis, Bast, Thoth, Osiris, Kwan Yin, Brahma, Vesta, Hecate, Ceriddwen, Eagle (Native American), and Amaterasu Omigami.
Keyword for the Priest: I INSPIRE.
Return to The Four Soul Types.
Priests naturally gravitate toward the broadcast arts, as this allows them to disseminate the universal information to others very easily. Any of the broadcast media are useful to them. Famous broadcast personalities such as Art Linkletter, Barbara Walters, Walter Cronkite, Ted Koppel, Wolfman Jack, Rona Barrett, Dick Clark, Ed Sullivan, and Paul Harvey are Priests.
As actors, Priests seek to inspire others, usually delivering a message or a deeper meaning through the roles they play. A Priest soul will seek out the limelight to enlighten others or bring an important concept to the masses. Famous Priest actors include Elizabeth Taylor, Vivien Leigh, Andy Griffith, Rock Hudson, Uma Thurman, Linda Evans, Larry Hagman, Rex Harrison, Abe Vigoda, Carroll O'Connor, Pat Boone, Demi Moore, Cybill Shepherd, Ricky Schroeder, Elsa Lanchester, John Travolta, Eddie Murphy, Shelley Duvall, Gene Wilder, Emma Thompson, Ted Danson, John Belushi, James Doohan, Kenneth Branaugh, Daniel-Day Lewis, Tom Hanks, Jason Priestly, Julia Roberts, Orson Welles, Jason Alexander, Robin Williams, Michelle Pfieffer, Jessica Tandy, Michael Palin (Monty Python), Patrick Stewart, Tom Cruise, Susan Sarandon, Mary Pickford, Veronica Lake, Hedy Lamarr, Ben Vereen, Audrey Hepburn, and Ginger Rogers.
Priests use music much the same way that Wizards do, except that Priests are more concerned with overtly bringing their listening audience to an emotional climax or catharsis than are Wizards (who are more interested in the beauty and majesty of the musical form in and of itself). Many Priest musicians are singers or extremely talented instrumentalists. Priests have tended recently to dominate the popular music scene because of the current Priest cycle (1992-2001). The alternative "grunge" movement is a direct function of the Priest group, in that it involves its target generation in an emotional outpouring and astral synthesis of expression. Famous Priest musicians and bands include: Johann Sebastian Bach, Johannes Brahms, Chopin, Tony Bennett, Guy Lombardo, Lawrence Welk, George Harrison, Dan Fogelberg, Cat Stevens, Kansas, Suzanne Vega, Whitney Houston, Carl Wilson (of the Beach Boys), Boy George, David Bowie, Sinead O'Connor, Matt Johnson (The The), REM, Kurt Cobain, Eddie Vedder, Tori Amos, Alanis Morrisette, Loreena McKinnett, Ace of Bass, Collective Soul, Ed Kowalczik (Live), Depeche Mode, Freddy Mercury (Queen), The Andrews Sisters, Ethel Merman, Dolly Parton, Erasure, and, more recently, Garbage and Vertical Horizon.
In Business, Priests will often gravitate to positions of great influence in a company, often taking the role of C.E.O. or president of a company because of their ability to inspire and motivate their employees and customers. Noted Priest businessmen include Stanley Marcus, Conrad Hilton, Ray Crock, Lee Iacocca, Andrew Carnegie, Nelson Rockefeller, and J.P. Morgan.
The two main challenges for priests to overcome is that of martyrdom and self-destruction. In their early cycles of incarnation, a Priest will work with martyrdom as a means for generating karma through sublimating their will to a cause or other entity. As time progresses, Priests began working with the challenge of self-destructive behavior patterns such as substance abuse, self-mutilation, co-dependency, and other destructive patterns.
Priests work best with Thieves, in that the Thief actively seeks the Priest to comfort and heal their wounds while Priests relish in the delightful energies generated by the Thief. Priests tend to find Warriors very abrasive during the early cycles, although they respect their self-sacrifice and duty to a cause. This respect increases as the souls progress in evolution. Wizards and Priests tend to get along fairly well, as both wield the power of magic well, but for different purposes.
Mythological archetypes for Priests include: Isis, Bast, Thoth, Osiris, Kwan Yin, Brahma, Vesta, Hecate, Ceriddwen, Eagle (Native American), and Amaterasu Omigami.
Keyword for the Priest: I INSPIRE.
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24 September 2016 23:46
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Priests
The Priest Soul group is the one most devoted to service to others. It is typified by a basic outlook of subverting one's desires in order to serve the needs and desires of others. Priests are some of the most loving beings in existence, and they weild a great power and influence through their inspirational aspects.
The Priest group serves out of three mechanisms: healing, teaching, and inspiring. By their very nature, Priests gravitate to positions of leadership by their ability to inspire masses of people at the same time. Priests are often found at the head of causes, fighting for ideals and principles. Because of their innate charisma, Priests much guard against abusing power for power's sake, and against extending so much of themselves that they eventually destroy or abase themselves.
In the early cycles of incarnation, Priests are likely to fall prey to the "guru" mentality; either seeking out a ashramic "master" and submitting all their personal power to him or her, or becoming such a "master" with fawning attendants. Cult mentality and fanaticism may gain the upper hand in such situations. In later years, Priests began to absolve karma by serving others without thought of recompense or recognition. They may feel the duty to inspire others, and highly evolved priests command a regality and respect unknown to the other soul groups.
Priests are natural leaders, and may gravitate naturally to leadership positions in organizations and in government. Their ability to set others at ease, innate charisma, and inspirational qualities make them naturals at leading others. The magical power they weild is similar to that of the Wizard, and often Priests may be confused with Wizards. However, while a Wizard's motivation is of creation, a Priest's motivation is of inspiration and devotion to an ideal. Some priests may shy away from such pinnacles, however, and prefer to work with others on a one-on-one basis.
Many famous Priest leaders have existed throughout time. These include: Samuel (Bible), Caiaphas (High Priest of Judea), Akhenaton and Nefertiti, Caesar Augustus, Charlemagne, Richard the Lion-Heart, Phillipe Le Bel, Lady Jane Grey, Napoleon Bonaparte, Mahatma Gandhi, Indira Gandhi, Evita Peron, Charles DeGaulle, Queen Isabella of Spain, Emperor Franz Josef of Austria, Benito Mussolini, Josef Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, Emperor Hirohito, Ayatollah Khomeni, Queen Elizabeth II, King George III, Queen Victoria, Prince Albert, James Madison, Governer Michael Dukakis, Herbert Hoover, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Lyndon B. Johnson, Jimmy Carter, George Bush, Robert Dole, and Anwar Sadat.
As spiritual leaders, Priests tend to take a back seat role, especially in their later cycles of incarnation. In the early cycles, they may tend to draw people around them in a cult-like fashion, such as psychedelic leader Timothy Leary or the infamous Priest cult leader Charles Manson. More likely, they often seek the walls of the cloister, where they may meditate upon their inner selves and universal wisdom, seeking to ever draw closer to God. Notable exceptions are: Dr. Norman Vincent Peale, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Coretta Scott King, Socrates, Mary Baker Eddy, Florence Scovell Schinn, Cardinal John Newman, and motivational speaker Zig Zigler.
Priests often gravitate to the field of psychology. It's innate model of human mind/soul behavior intrigues them philosophically and spiritually, and is an excellent vehicle for them to serve others. Noted psychologists include Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, Marie-Louise Von Franz, Carl J. Jung, Jean Piaget, and physician/psychologist Dr. Wayne Dyer. In education, Priests tend to influence vast educational movements, such as Maria Montessori and John Dewey.
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The Priest Soul group is the one most devoted to service to others. It is typified by a basic outlook of subverting one's desires in order to serve the needs and desires of others. Priests are some of the most loving beings in existence, and they weild a great power and influence through their inspirational aspects.
The Priest group serves out of three mechanisms: healing, teaching, and inspiring. By their very nature, Priests gravitate to positions of leadership by their ability to inspire masses of people at the same time. Priests are often found at the head of causes, fighting for ideals and principles. Because of their innate charisma, Priests much guard against abusing power for power's sake, and against extending so much of themselves that they eventually destroy or abase themselves.
In the early cycles of incarnation, Priests are likely to fall prey to the "guru" mentality; either seeking out a ashramic "master" and submitting all their personal power to him or her, or becoming such a "master" with fawning attendants. Cult mentality and fanaticism may gain the upper hand in such situations. In later years, Priests began to absolve karma by serving others without thought of recompense or recognition. They may feel the duty to inspire others, and highly evolved priests command a regality and respect unknown to the other soul groups.
Priests are natural leaders, and may gravitate naturally to leadership positions in organizations and in government. Their ability to set others at ease, innate charisma, and inspirational qualities make them naturals at leading others. The magical power they weild is similar to that of the Wizard, and often Priests may be confused with Wizards. However, while a Wizard's motivation is of creation, a Priest's motivation is of inspiration and devotion to an ideal. Some priests may shy away from such pinnacles, however, and prefer to work with others on a one-on-one basis.
Many famous Priest leaders have existed throughout time. These include: Samuel (Bible), Caiaphas (High Priest of Judea), Akhenaton and Nefertiti, Caesar Augustus, Charlemagne, Richard the Lion-Heart, Phillipe Le Bel, Lady Jane Grey, Napoleon Bonaparte, Mahatma Gandhi, Indira Gandhi, Evita Peron, Charles DeGaulle, Queen Isabella of Spain, Emperor Franz Josef of Austria, Benito Mussolini, Josef Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, Emperor Hirohito, Ayatollah Khomeni, Queen Elizabeth II, King George III, Queen Victoria, Prince Albert, James Madison, Governer Michael Dukakis, Herbert Hoover, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Lyndon B. Johnson, Jimmy Carter, George Bush, Robert Dole, and Anwar Sadat.
As spiritual leaders, Priests tend to take a back seat role, especially in their later cycles of incarnation. In the early cycles, they may tend to draw people around them in a cult-like fashion, such as psychedelic leader Timothy Leary or the infamous Priest cult leader Charles Manson. More likely, they often seek the walls of the cloister, where they may meditate upon their inner selves and universal wisdom, seeking to ever draw closer to God. Notable exceptions are: Dr. Norman Vincent Peale, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Coretta Scott King, Socrates, Mary Baker Eddy, Florence Scovell Schinn, Cardinal John Newman, and motivational speaker Zig Zigler.
Priests often gravitate to the field of psychology. It's innate model of human mind/soul behavior intrigues them philosophically and spiritually, and is an excellent vehicle for them to serve others. Noted psychologists include Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, Marie-Louise Von Franz, Carl J. Jung, Jean Piaget, and physician/psychologist Dr. Wayne Dyer. In education, Priests tend to influence vast educational movements, such as Maria Montessori and John Dewey.
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24 September 2016 23:45
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As a general rule, Thieves respect the armed services but detest the idea of participating in them. If they go, it's as a last resort or because they were drafted. There are no real notable Thief generals as very few ever make it to that level. Most thieves find unique ways to avoid being drafted or recruited. If a thief does actively pursue a military career, its for a specific purpose, such as recognissance or espionage. Obviously, Thieves do well in special government agency work and make great secret operatives. The infamous Mata Hari, for example, was a Thief.
Politics appeals to the Thief, for in that arena they can "sell" an image or concept to the general public or usher in new ideas and concepts much easier. The political Thief above all must be wary not to fall into corruption, graft, and using unfair advantages or inside knowledge during elections, which are tempting options with the way our particular political system is set up today. Thief president Richard Nixon found this out the hard way in the Watergate fiasco. A similar fiasco threatened to collapse the Thief president Bill Clinton, but he was able to sidestep the trap and appears to be carrying forward the thief energies that Nixon was attempting to embody. The thief rulers Nicholas and Alexandra Romanov were examples of the "tragic clowns"; their preoccupation with the welfare of their family and, specifically, their Wizard son, the crown prince Alexis, that they were unable to perceive or control the overwhelming social upheavals threatening them and their realm. They played directly into the hands of the infamous wizard Gregori Rasputin, which helped bring their downfall, albeit ushering in a "new order" into Russia. Other famous Thief politicians and statesmen include Henry Clay, Benjamin Franklin, John Tyler, Thurgood Marshall, Calvin Coolidge, Gerald Ford, Edward (Ted) Kennedy, Gary Hart, and California governor Jerry Brown.
Musically, Thieves tend to run in "packs." This is true of thieves in any profession, but especially in music. With notable exceptions, one will generally not see any one Thief musician become noteworthy, but will rather see Thief music bands arise that achieve a considerable degree of fame. Most noteworthy among thief bands are: Steely Dan, Electric Light Orchestra (ELO), The Allman Brothers, Lynnrd Skynnrd, The Go-Go's, The B-52's, Metallica, KISS, ABBA, Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Clash, Smashing Pumpkins, Stone Temple Pilots, Real McCoy, Journey, and Styx. Famous Thief musicians include Alice Cooper, Meat Loaf, Michael Jackson, Joe Cocker, Melanie, Boz Skaggs, Paul McCartney, Garth Brooks, and most recently, Lou Bega.
The challenges Thieves work to overcome are greed and escapism. In their early cycles of incarnation, Thieves work strongly with greed, which helps create karma for their future incarnations. As they mature, Thieves must overcome a tendency towards escapism, or shirking their service. Of all the soul groups, this is the one that is most likely to manifest this condition.
Some mythological archetypes for Thieves are: Mercury (Hermes), Loki, Coyote (Native American), Anasasi, Prometheus, Eris, Gullveig, Morgan Le Fay, Robin Hood, Scheharezade, Scarlett O'Hara, Walter Mitty, Willie Loman (Death of a Salesman).
Other famous thieves include: Jonah (the Bible), Samson, Mark Antony, H. D. Thoreau, John Wilkes Booth, Lenin, Juan Peron, Al Capone, Susan B. Anthony, Harriet Tubman, Helen Keller, Theodore Roosevelt, Abby Hoffman, Harry Truman, Martin Luther, Rene Descartes, Rosa Parks, Hillary Clinton, Emma Hamilton (mistress of Lord Nelson), Shelley Winters, Will Smith (Fresh Prince), L.L. Cool J, Snoop Doggy Dogg, Sheena Easton, Peter Fonda, Jane Fonda, Walter Matthau, Brad Pitt, Winona Ryder, Ally Sheedy, Phyllis Diller, Roger Moore, DeForest Kelly, Nichelle Nichols, Ellen Degeneres, Ernest Borgnine, Jack Nicholson, Maria Callas.
Keyword of the Thief: I CAN.
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Politics appeals to the Thief, for in that arena they can "sell" an image or concept to the general public or usher in new ideas and concepts much easier. The political Thief above all must be wary not to fall into corruption, graft, and using unfair advantages or inside knowledge during elections, which are tempting options with the way our particular political system is set up today. Thief president Richard Nixon found this out the hard way in the Watergate fiasco. A similar fiasco threatened to collapse the Thief president Bill Clinton, but he was able to sidestep the trap and appears to be carrying forward the thief energies that Nixon was attempting to embody. The thief rulers Nicholas and Alexandra Romanov were examples of the "tragic clowns"; their preoccupation with the welfare of their family and, specifically, their Wizard son, the crown prince Alexis, that they were unable to perceive or control the overwhelming social upheavals threatening them and their realm. They played directly into the hands of the infamous wizard Gregori Rasputin, which helped bring their downfall, albeit ushering in a "new order" into Russia. Other famous Thief politicians and statesmen include Henry Clay, Benjamin Franklin, John Tyler, Thurgood Marshall, Calvin Coolidge, Gerald Ford, Edward (Ted) Kennedy, Gary Hart, and California governor Jerry Brown.
Musically, Thieves tend to run in "packs." This is true of thieves in any profession, but especially in music. With notable exceptions, one will generally not see any one Thief musician become noteworthy, but will rather see Thief music bands arise that achieve a considerable degree of fame. Most noteworthy among thief bands are: Steely Dan, Electric Light Orchestra (ELO), The Allman Brothers, Lynnrd Skynnrd, The Go-Go's, The B-52's, Metallica, KISS, ABBA, Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Clash, Smashing Pumpkins, Stone Temple Pilots, Real McCoy, Journey, and Styx. Famous Thief musicians include Alice Cooper, Meat Loaf, Michael Jackson, Joe Cocker, Melanie, Boz Skaggs, Paul McCartney, Garth Brooks, and most recently, Lou Bega.
The challenges Thieves work to overcome are greed and escapism. In their early cycles of incarnation, Thieves work strongly with greed, which helps create karma for their future incarnations. As they mature, Thieves must overcome a tendency towards escapism, or shirking their service. Of all the soul groups, this is the one that is most likely to manifest this condition.
Some mythological archetypes for Thieves are: Mercury (Hermes), Loki, Coyote (Native American), Anasasi, Prometheus, Eris, Gullveig, Morgan Le Fay, Robin Hood, Scheharezade, Scarlett O'Hara, Walter Mitty, Willie Loman (Death of a Salesman).
Other famous thieves include: Jonah (the Bible), Samson, Mark Antony, H. D. Thoreau, John Wilkes Booth, Lenin, Juan Peron, Al Capone, Susan B. Anthony, Harriet Tubman, Helen Keller, Theodore Roosevelt, Abby Hoffman, Harry Truman, Martin Luther, Rene Descartes, Rosa Parks, Hillary Clinton, Emma Hamilton (mistress of Lord Nelson), Shelley Winters, Will Smith (Fresh Prince), L.L. Cool J, Snoop Doggy Dogg, Sheena Easton, Peter Fonda, Jane Fonda, Walter Matthau, Brad Pitt, Winona Ryder, Ally Sheedy, Phyllis Diller, Roger Moore, DeForest Kelly, Nichelle Nichols, Ellen Degeneres, Ernest Borgnine, Jack Nicholson, Maria Callas.
Keyword of the Thief: I CAN.
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Thieves
The Thief Soul group is characterized by bringing in that which is new. Thieves work best with that which is not, rather than that which is. By their very nature, Thieves work against the crystallization of society by constantly challenging reality and finding alternative methods for performing action. If there is a loophole, an escape clause, or a back door anywhere, you can bet a Thief will find it.
The word "Thief" in our society tends to have the connotation of being a criminal or someone of a lower order. Thieves are very necessary in the balance of all things, and have just as much importance as the other three soul groups. Thieves with lower inclinations will tend to gravitate towards criminal activities, but anyone of lower inclination will do so as well, regardless of their soul group. In criminal activities, Thieves would more than likely choose fraud, swindling, or conning over more overt activities such as burglary or violence (which is actually a Warrior activity!) Even more evolved thieves look for the quickest way out; the line of least resistance, the shortest distance between two points (and most of them realize that it is rarely linear). Thieves love to see what they can get by with.
Thieves tend to be on the cutting edge of society; bringing in that which is overshadowing and disseminating it to the rest of the soul groups. You can tell who your Thief friends are; they are the first ones on the telephone to you with new gossip or news. Thieves are the first to try any new innovation or gadget. While the other soul groups are saying "It can't be done," Thieves say "Yes, it can." They don't know the meaning of the word "no."
Among the various soul-groups, Thieves have the fewest boundaries of all, if any. Consequently, they may relay to you extremely embarrassing or intimate personal information, and be surprised at your mortification or shock. It's best not to trust a lesser-evolved thief with intimate secrets. Thieves are the last to learn the meaning of "mine and thine," be it physical objects or shared thoughts or feelings.
Needless to say, Thieves are some of the most joyous beings to have around. They practically bubble over with fun. Refusing to take anything seriously, they gravitate naturally to the professions of comedy, the performing arts, and the written word. Speaking of words, Thieves LOVE word-play and twisting around meanings. A Thief as a lawyer can twist the finest points of law to their own (or their client's) end; they can prove anything as a statistician or a logician. They trip up others on their own words, using their thoughts and words against them.
Thieves can perform well in any vocation; however, some vocations they find stultifying and drab. If a thief goes into business, it's generally for himself or herself, and it's definitely to bring something new into the world. Thieves are excellent in all of the communication arts, but rarely succeed in the news world because of their lively imaginations and their tendency to "add a sauce" to everything. The Thief is the ultimate D.J.; spinning other people's records and supplying irreverent comments in the background. Thieves have the ability to think on their feet, and do well in any occupation that requires this.
Most thieves do not have the determination to apply themselves to highly demanding fields such as Medicine. If they do, they are likely of a highly evolved nature and are in the process of karma-dissolving. Freedom is essential to a Thief; they detest 9-to-5 work schedules and would much prefer working in a more flexible environment.
Thieves tend to flourish in the area of sales. More evolved Thieves are able to "read" their clients better and can create an aura of desire around an object or idea, to where it practically sells itself. Thieves are very good at anything involving promotion of an idea or public relations work. They work well at advertising, because of their innate knack at building up an image around anything they set their mind to.
As writers, Thieves enjoy writing fiction, enabling them to create fantastic worlds and situations. They are excellent storytellers, and people overlook their untruthfulness in recounting a tale because the fantasy they create is so delightful. They are less adept at writing nonfiction, because of their innate tendency to embellish (and, also, because they find it patently boring). Obviously, Thieves make great children's authors because of this wonderful knack of creating fantasy. Some famous Thief authors are: Anita Loos, Lewis Carroll, Mark Twain, J. Barrie (author of Peter Pan), Roald Dahl, the brothers Grimm, and James Thurber (author of Walter Mitty).
As artists, Thieves tend toward the avant-garde, bringing in outrageous ideas. Because of this tendency, they excel in the creative fields of fashion and design, where the cutting edge is the norm and trends change at the drop of a hat or hemline.
Obviously, Thieves make some of the best comedians and entertainers. Natural clowns at heart, they can't help but be funny and they help lighten the spirits of the rest of us. Their humor tends toward the outrageous, and they are the ones most likely to take prat-falls. They also make great mimics, and can actually make us laugh at ourselves as well. Some of the famous Thief entertainers are: Judy Tenuta, Jerry Seinfeld, Red Skelton, Buster Keaton, Fanny Brice, Carol Burnett, Ed Wynn, Rip Taylor, Jim Carrey, Groucho Marx, Henny Youngman, Eric Idle (Monte Python), Lucille Ball, Art Carney, Robin Williams, and Bob Hope.
Inventions fascinate Thieves; however, they rarely create the invention. Instead, they introduce the idea, wait for it to sink in, and are off to the next thing. Consequently, there are few Thief scientists and inventors. Two notable exceptions are Alexander Graham Bell (inventor of the telephone) and Albert Einstein. In antiquity, the Greek inventor Archimedes was a Thief (who else but a Thief would run naked through the streets shouting "Eureka!").
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The Thief Soul group is characterized by bringing in that which is new. Thieves work best with that which is not, rather than that which is. By their very nature, Thieves work against the crystallization of society by constantly challenging reality and finding alternative methods for performing action. If there is a loophole, an escape clause, or a back door anywhere, you can bet a Thief will find it.
The word "Thief" in our society tends to have the connotation of being a criminal or someone of a lower order. Thieves are very necessary in the balance of all things, and have just as much importance as the other three soul groups. Thieves with lower inclinations will tend to gravitate towards criminal activities, but anyone of lower inclination will do so as well, regardless of their soul group. In criminal activities, Thieves would more than likely choose fraud, swindling, or conning over more overt activities such as burglary or violence (which is actually a Warrior activity!) Even more evolved thieves look for the quickest way out; the line of least resistance, the shortest distance between two points (and most of them realize that it is rarely linear). Thieves love to see what they can get by with.
Thieves tend to be on the cutting edge of society; bringing in that which is overshadowing and disseminating it to the rest of the soul groups. You can tell who your Thief friends are; they are the first ones on the telephone to you with new gossip or news. Thieves are the first to try any new innovation or gadget. While the other soul groups are saying "It can't be done," Thieves say "Yes, it can." They don't know the meaning of the word "no."
Among the various soul-groups, Thieves have the fewest boundaries of all, if any. Consequently, they may relay to you extremely embarrassing or intimate personal information, and be surprised at your mortification or shock. It's best not to trust a lesser-evolved thief with intimate secrets. Thieves are the last to learn the meaning of "mine and thine," be it physical objects or shared thoughts or feelings.
Needless to say, Thieves are some of the most joyous beings to have around. They practically bubble over with fun. Refusing to take anything seriously, they gravitate naturally to the professions of comedy, the performing arts, and the written word. Speaking of words, Thieves LOVE word-play and twisting around meanings. A Thief as a lawyer can twist the finest points of law to their own (or their client's) end; they can prove anything as a statistician or a logician. They trip up others on their own words, using their thoughts and words against them.
Thieves can perform well in any vocation; however, some vocations they find stultifying and drab. If a thief goes into business, it's generally for himself or herself, and it's definitely to bring something new into the world. Thieves are excellent in all of the communication arts, but rarely succeed in the news world because of their lively imaginations and their tendency to "add a sauce" to everything. The Thief is the ultimate D.J.; spinning other people's records and supplying irreverent comments in the background. Thieves have the ability to think on their feet, and do well in any occupation that requires this.
Most thieves do not have the determination to apply themselves to highly demanding fields such as Medicine. If they do, they are likely of a highly evolved nature and are in the process of karma-dissolving. Freedom is essential to a Thief; they detest 9-to-5 work schedules and would much prefer working in a more flexible environment.
Thieves tend to flourish in the area of sales. More evolved Thieves are able to "read" their clients better and can create an aura of desire around an object or idea, to where it practically sells itself. Thieves are very good at anything involving promotion of an idea or public relations work. They work well at advertising, because of their innate knack at building up an image around anything they set their mind to.
As writers, Thieves enjoy writing fiction, enabling them to create fantastic worlds and situations. They are excellent storytellers, and people overlook their untruthfulness in recounting a tale because the fantasy they create is so delightful. They are less adept at writing nonfiction, because of their innate tendency to embellish (and, also, because they find it patently boring). Obviously, Thieves make great children's authors because of this wonderful knack of creating fantasy. Some famous Thief authors are: Anita Loos, Lewis Carroll, Mark Twain, J. Barrie (author of Peter Pan), Roald Dahl, the brothers Grimm, and James Thurber (author of Walter Mitty).
As artists, Thieves tend toward the avant-garde, bringing in outrageous ideas. Because of this tendency, they excel in the creative fields of fashion and design, where the cutting edge is the norm and trends change at the drop of a hat or hemline.
Obviously, Thieves make some of the best comedians and entertainers. Natural clowns at heart, they can't help but be funny and they help lighten the spirits of the rest of us. Their humor tends toward the outrageous, and they are the ones most likely to take prat-falls. They also make great mimics, and can actually make us laugh at ourselves as well. Some of the famous Thief entertainers are: Judy Tenuta, Jerry Seinfeld, Red Skelton, Buster Keaton, Fanny Brice, Carol Burnett, Ed Wynn, Rip Taylor, Jim Carrey, Groucho Marx, Henny Youngman, Eric Idle (Monte Python), Lucille Ball, Art Carney, Robin Williams, and Bob Hope.
Inventions fascinate Thieves; however, they rarely create the invention. Instead, they introduce the idea, wait for it to sink in, and are off to the next thing. Consequently, there are few Thief scientists and inventors. Two notable exceptions are Alexander Graham Bell (inventor of the telephone) and Albert Einstein. In antiquity, the Greek inventor Archimedes was a Thief (who else but a Thief would run naked through the streets shouting "Eureka!").
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As performing artists, Warriors also tend to specialize in one particular field of endeavor. Many may be drawn to ballet or dance because of the rhythmic motions and the ability to focus and concentrate on a particular field. Warrior actors such as John Wayne, Meryl Streep, Glenn Close, Michael Douglas, Kirk Douglas, Katheryn Hepburn, Helen Hays, Arnold Swartzeneggar, Steven Segall, Chuck Norris, and Lorraine Bracco enjoy portraying very strong, powerful individuals on the stage or screen, but are less interested (and less adept) at playing a variety of characters. Such figures may develop a stereotype or hero-like quality that pursues them throughout their careers.
If a warrior enters the ministry or pastoral service, he or she is likely to be very charismatic and achieve a great deal of power. Evangelism is the feature of famous Warrior ministers, such as Billy Graham, Jerry Falwell, and Oral Roberts. They tend to have an intensity of purpose and can sway vast groups of people with their leadership qualities. Warrior ministers must be careful not to fall into the trap of self-aggrandizement or self-ish power, as it can lead to widespread tragedy such as the Jim Jones mass suicide or the David Koresh/Branch Davidian tragedy in Waco, TX.
One of the favorite fields for Warriors is that of athletics. In their early stages of evolution, Warriors may test themselves by going out for "extreme sports" such as skydiving, mountain-climbing, and auto racing. As they evolve, Warriors tend to choose a particular athletic field and become an expert in it. The fields of martial arts appeal to warriors because of the level of focused, concentrated energy it requires. Warriors may be drawn to yoga, Tai Chi, or other spiritual-oriented martial arts in their advanced evolutionary cycles.
Warriors tend to be conservative; yet, at the same time, they constantly test their limits and the limits of society. In some lifetimes they may be found performing extreme actions; usually to "shock" the masses into understanding a vital concept. The singer/actresses Madonna and Bette Midler both use the "shock" effect to get their points across. Under the facade, both of these actresses have a reserve and conservative outlook, practically a shyness, that mystifies others who come in intimate contact with them.
As challenges, Warriors must constantly battle with impatience and stubbornness. Impatience is characteristic among young-soul Warriors who are reactionary and quick to anger. Stubbonness tends to be a characteristic of older-soul Warriors, especially when they have been backed into a corner. The tenacity of their fighting spirits has a tendency to become crystallized.
As a Yang (proactive) race, the Warrior race has tended to favor masculine virtues (power, leadership, decisiveness) over the feminine ones (nurturing, creativity, and receptivity). This can be seen even among female warriors who tend to dismiss female virtues as passive or "wimpy." Among lesser-evolved warriors, there may be a total disregard for the feminine principle; women and men espousing the gentler, more feminine aspects may be dismissed or derided as being "sissy" or inconsequential. As the warrior soul progresses, it must integrate the balance of masculine and feminine energies into a working whole, applying both energies to their endeavors.
There are many mythological archetypes for the Warrior, among these being Gilgamesh, Lancelot, Cu Chullain, The Morrigan, Beowulf, Prince Rama (from the Ramayana), Sigifrith the Walsing, Brunnhilde the Valkyrie, Jason (the Argonaut), Achilles, Indra, El Cid, and Don Quixote (a caricature of what happens when a warrior gets too "bored.") Among the Gods, Goddesses, and Angels: Apollo, Artemis, Skadi, Thor, Freyja, the Dagda, Hercules, Vishnu, Athena, the archangel Michael.
Other famous warriors: Joshua (from the Bible), Alexander the Great, King David, Elijah, Jezebel, Xerxes of Persia, Joan of Arc, Queen Boadicea, Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, Jacqueline Kennedy-Onassis, Alaric the Goth, Charlemagne, Michelangelo, Leonardo Da Vinci, General Douglas MacArthur, George Washington, George C. Scott, Raisa Gorbachev, Carrie Nation, Abraham Lincoln, Empress Elisabeth of Austria, Julia Louis-Dreyfuss, Stockard Channing, Sam Elliott, John Cleese (Monty Python), William Shatner, Winston Churchill, Ernest Hemingway, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Norman Mailer, Charles Bronson, Pete Townshend (the Who), Ringo Starr (The Beatles), Joey Ramone, Mike Love (of the Beach Boys), Janis Joplin, Peter Gabriel, Mick Jagger, Bette Midler, Madonna, Lawrence of Arabia, Sarah Bernhardt, Bette Davis, Joan Crawford, Gary Cooper, Sean Connery, Greta Garbo, Ingrid Bergman, Bruce Willis, General George Patton, Bill Gates.
Keyword of the Warrior: I DO.
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If a warrior enters the ministry or pastoral service, he or she is likely to be very charismatic and achieve a great deal of power. Evangelism is the feature of famous Warrior ministers, such as Billy Graham, Jerry Falwell, and Oral Roberts. They tend to have an intensity of purpose and can sway vast groups of people with their leadership qualities. Warrior ministers must be careful not to fall into the trap of self-aggrandizement or self-ish power, as it can lead to widespread tragedy such as the Jim Jones mass suicide or the David Koresh/Branch Davidian tragedy in Waco, TX.
One of the favorite fields for Warriors is that of athletics. In their early stages of evolution, Warriors may test themselves by going out for "extreme sports" such as skydiving, mountain-climbing, and auto racing. As they evolve, Warriors tend to choose a particular athletic field and become an expert in it. The fields of martial arts appeal to warriors because of the level of focused, concentrated energy it requires. Warriors may be drawn to yoga, Tai Chi, or other spiritual-oriented martial arts in their advanced evolutionary cycles.
Warriors tend to be conservative; yet, at the same time, they constantly test their limits and the limits of society. In some lifetimes they may be found performing extreme actions; usually to "shock" the masses into understanding a vital concept. The singer/actresses Madonna and Bette Midler both use the "shock" effect to get their points across. Under the facade, both of these actresses have a reserve and conservative outlook, practically a shyness, that mystifies others who come in intimate contact with them.
As challenges, Warriors must constantly battle with impatience and stubbornness. Impatience is characteristic among young-soul Warriors who are reactionary and quick to anger. Stubbonness tends to be a characteristic of older-soul Warriors, especially when they have been backed into a corner. The tenacity of their fighting spirits has a tendency to become crystallized.
As a Yang (proactive) race, the Warrior race has tended to favor masculine virtues (power, leadership, decisiveness) over the feminine ones (nurturing, creativity, and receptivity). This can be seen even among female warriors who tend to dismiss female virtues as passive or "wimpy." Among lesser-evolved warriors, there may be a total disregard for the feminine principle; women and men espousing the gentler, more feminine aspects may be dismissed or derided as being "sissy" or inconsequential. As the warrior soul progresses, it must integrate the balance of masculine and feminine energies into a working whole, applying both energies to their endeavors.
There are many mythological archetypes for the Warrior, among these being Gilgamesh, Lancelot, Cu Chullain, The Morrigan, Beowulf, Prince Rama (from the Ramayana), Sigifrith the Walsing, Brunnhilde the Valkyrie, Jason (the Argonaut), Achilles, Indra, El Cid, and Don Quixote (a caricature of what happens when a warrior gets too "bored.") Among the Gods, Goddesses, and Angels: Apollo, Artemis, Skadi, Thor, Freyja, the Dagda, Hercules, Vishnu, Athena, the archangel Michael.
Other famous warriors: Joshua (from the Bible), Alexander the Great, King David, Elijah, Jezebel, Xerxes of Persia, Joan of Arc, Queen Boadicea, Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, Jacqueline Kennedy-Onassis, Alaric the Goth, Charlemagne, Michelangelo, Leonardo Da Vinci, General Douglas MacArthur, George Washington, George C. Scott, Raisa Gorbachev, Carrie Nation, Abraham Lincoln, Empress Elisabeth of Austria, Julia Louis-Dreyfuss, Stockard Channing, Sam Elliott, John Cleese (Monty Python), William Shatner, Winston Churchill, Ernest Hemingway, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Norman Mailer, Charles Bronson, Pete Townshend (the Who), Ringo Starr (The Beatles), Joey Ramone, Mike Love (of the Beach Boys), Janis Joplin, Peter Gabriel, Mick Jagger, Bette Midler, Madonna, Lawrence of Arabia, Sarah Bernhardt, Bette Davis, Joan Crawford, Gary Cooper, Sean Connery, Greta Garbo, Ingrid Bergman, Bruce Willis, General George Patton, Bill Gates.
Keyword of the Warrior: I DO.
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24 September 2016 23:44
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The Warrior Soul race processes information by action. They are the "do-ers" of the 4 basic soul types. When a task needs to be done, you can count on a Warrior soul to complete it. They are at a loss when nothing is to be done. You can often tell a bored Warrior soul by their toe-tapping or finger-drumming activities. Warriors need to be in motion, acting upon the impulses of their souls.
In the early stages of their evolution, Warriors process by means of the "action-reaction" cycle. This mechanism helps them engender karma during this period. As they mature as souls, the mechanism changes to an "action-proaction" cycle, in which they carefully plan strategies and alternatives to the action stimulus. Mature Warriors make excellent strategists, teachers, and physicians, and one can often find them in these roles.
As soul-types, Warriors are less interested in inspiring others than in helping build the necessary foundations by which the other soul types may function. Once the foundations and framework for each scenario is laid, Warriors tend to become easily bored and wanting to move to something "new." Do not expect a pure Warrior type to carry an entire project to its fruition. Once the Warrior's job is done, they are ready to move on to other areas. Warriors initiate, but rarely complete.
As vocations go, Warriors tend to chose action-oriented jobs and careers. In their early stages of evolution, Warriors tend to gravitate toward the lower military (enlisted men), police and security work, firefighting, paramedic and emergency rescue work, and other such occupations that allow them to lay their lives on the line on a daily basis. Warriors of lower inclination will gravitate to the underworld where they find expression among the gangster life, where life and death is decided on a daily basis. As the balance of energy moves from the lower (root and sacral centers) to the solar plexus, throat, and heart centers, Warriors become more interested in executive action. If they are drawn to the military, it will be more along the lines of an enlisted officer or someone in the chain of command. Warriors here tend to make excellent executives, being able to assess various decisions and rapidly decide on the best alternative. A charismatic warrior can inspire others under him or her to follow directions, and are excellent delegates of responsibility. Politics or any other field of leadership may appeal to this level of warrior. In the more advanced cycles, as the focus of energy moves towards the head, Warriors begin to meet their karmic obligations, expiating them in such fields of service as medicine, law, and education. A warrior will approach these fields as if on a battlefield; in medicine, s/he is often the surgeon making the incisions and removing the diseased matter; then moving on and allowing the others to clean up and tend to the patient. In law, these are more often the criminal lawyers, battling their cases out in the courtroom arena. Contract, corporate, and civil law bores them with their endless loopholes and ramifications. In education, they pass down their innate knowledge of decision-making and strategy to their students.
Warrior teachers are more interested in teaching their students how to think, then setting them to their tasks and stepping back, ready to step in at any minute that a student needs aid, but allowing them to process the information and decisions for themselves. A Warrior teacher will more than likely be drawn to fields with practical application, such as mathematics, engineering, computers, and business. Abstract philosophy holds little if any interest for them; concrete philosophies such as logic appeal more to them.
Warrior types may be found in any field of endeavor, although the above fields tend to intrigue them the most. They are often bored with art or music, unable to see any practical "here and now" applications for them. Warrior artists and musicians are in the business to make a point or deliver a specific message, rather than explore an entire genre. Such artists and musicians may specialize in a certain technique or field, perfecting it and honing it to a sword's blade point. In music, Warriors are drawn more to the gutsy "hard rock" and tend to be solo artists leading a backup group rather than many artists working together; often the band may be named for them. If a warrior is not a band leader, they will tend to fade into the woodwork, providing backup support for the other musicians. Examples of famous Warrior musicians would be: Elton John, Billy Joel, Prince, Madonna, Elvis, Ringo Starr, Willie Nelson, Eric Clapton, Tina Turner, and Ted Nugent. Many Warrior musicians emerged during the late 70's and the 80's during the passage of the last Warrior cycle. Warriors that achieve fame as musicians will often have a cult following and a "larger than life" image surrounding them, such as Elvis or Madonna.
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In the early stages of their evolution, Warriors process by means of the "action-reaction" cycle. This mechanism helps them engender karma during this period. As they mature as souls, the mechanism changes to an "action-proaction" cycle, in which they carefully plan strategies and alternatives to the action stimulus. Mature Warriors make excellent strategists, teachers, and physicians, and one can often find them in these roles.
As soul-types, Warriors are less interested in inspiring others than in helping build the necessary foundations by which the other soul types may function. Once the foundations and framework for each scenario is laid, Warriors tend to become easily bored and wanting to move to something "new." Do not expect a pure Warrior type to carry an entire project to its fruition. Once the Warrior's job is done, they are ready to move on to other areas. Warriors initiate, but rarely complete.
As vocations go, Warriors tend to chose action-oriented jobs and careers. In their early stages of evolution, Warriors tend to gravitate toward the lower military (enlisted men), police and security work, firefighting, paramedic and emergency rescue work, and other such occupations that allow them to lay their lives on the line on a daily basis. Warriors of lower inclination will gravitate to the underworld where they find expression among the gangster life, where life and death is decided on a daily basis. As the balance of energy moves from the lower (root and sacral centers) to the solar plexus, throat, and heart centers, Warriors become more interested in executive action. If they are drawn to the military, it will be more along the lines of an enlisted officer or someone in the chain of command. Warriors here tend to make excellent executives, being able to assess various decisions and rapidly decide on the best alternative. A charismatic warrior can inspire others under him or her to follow directions, and are excellent delegates of responsibility. Politics or any other field of leadership may appeal to this level of warrior. In the more advanced cycles, as the focus of energy moves towards the head, Warriors begin to meet their karmic obligations, expiating them in such fields of service as medicine, law, and education. A warrior will approach these fields as if on a battlefield; in medicine, s/he is often the surgeon making the incisions and removing the diseased matter; then moving on and allowing the others to clean up and tend to the patient. In law, these are more often the criminal lawyers, battling their cases out in the courtroom arena. Contract, corporate, and civil law bores them with their endless loopholes and ramifications. In education, they pass down their innate knowledge of decision-making and strategy to their students.
Warrior teachers are more interested in teaching their students how to think, then setting them to their tasks and stepping back, ready to step in at any minute that a student needs aid, but allowing them to process the information and decisions for themselves. A Warrior teacher will more than likely be drawn to fields with practical application, such as mathematics, engineering, computers, and business. Abstract philosophy holds little if any interest for them; concrete philosophies such as logic appeal more to them.
Warrior types may be found in any field of endeavor, although the above fields tend to intrigue them the most. They are often bored with art or music, unable to see any practical "here and now" applications for them. Warrior artists and musicians are in the business to make a point or deliver a specific message, rather than explore an entire genre. Such artists and musicians may specialize in a certain technique or field, perfecting it and honing it to a sword's blade point. In music, Warriors are drawn more to the gutsy "hard rock" and tend to be solo artists leading a backup group rather than many artists working together; often the band may be named for them. If a warrior is not a band leader, they will tend to fade into the woodwork, providing backup support for the other musicians. Examples of famous Warrior musicians would be: Elton John, Billy Joel, Prince, Madonna, Elvis, Ringo Starr, Willie Nelson, Eric Clapton, Tina Turner, and Ted Nugent. Many Warrior musicians emerged during the late 70's and the 80's during the passage of the last Warrior cycle. Warriors that achieve fame as musicians will often have a cult following and a "larger than life" image surrounding them, such as Elvis or Madonna.
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24 September 2016 23:44
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The Four Soul Types
As the Soul travels the evolutionary path, it selects a particular vocation, or combination of vocations, as to how it chooses to serve and render conscious creation. There are four such vocations, manifesting in the world of affairs as one of the following types:
Warriors: The do-ers of the Universe
Wizards: The creators of the Universe
Thieves: The innovators of the Universe
Priests: The voices of the Universe
These four types each incorporate all other classifications and functions of the soul, including all seven ray energies, into their workings. In reality, everyone is a combination of these four types; but throughout the entire incarnating cycle of an individual soul, the Soul will choose to specialize in one of them. The qualities and natures of the soul types will determine largely the type of service the Soul will render, and how the soul appropriates energy and creates with that energy.
These four soul types come into predominance in 125-month cycles that manifest the basic influences of the particular soul type. In November 1960, the last Wizard cycle began, which lasted throughout the duration of the 60's until April 1971. The Thief cycle then came into manifestation throughout the 70's with its emphasis upon the breaking down of old patterns and the beginning of new ones. In September 1981, the cycle turned to the powerful pattern of the Warrior, which lasted until February 1992, when the cycle turned to the Priest. We are nearing the end of the Priest cycle, which will give way in July 2002, when the next Wizard cycle begins. For more information on these cycles, follow the individual type links above.
Calendar of the Cycles:
Cycle: Starts on:
Thief (Hunter) April 1846
Warrior (Soldier) September 1856
Priest (Sage) February 1867
Wizard (Mystic) July 1877
Thief (Jester) December 1887
Warrior (King) May 1898
Priest (Healer) October 1908
Wizard (Bard) March 1919
Thief (Rogue) August 1929
Warrior (Knight) January 1940
Priest (Bishop) June 1950
Wizard (Adept) November 1960
Thief (Gypsy) April 1971
Warrior (Warrior) September 1981
Priest (Monk) February 1992
Wizard (Druid) July 2002
Thief (Hunter) December 2012
In addition to the soul type, the Soul will also choose a persona vocation for the current incarnation which may or may not be the same as the Soul vocation. Thus, a Wizard soul may be working through a Warrior persona, or a Priest soul through a Thief persona. The particular combination of Soul/Persona type will determine largely the type of service the individual will manifest in his or her particular lifetime.
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As the Soul travels the evolutionary path, it selects a particular vocation, or combination of vocations, as to how it chooses to serve and render conscious creation. There are four such vocations, manifesting in the world of affairs as one of the following types:
Warriors: The do-ers of the Universe
Wizards: The creators of the Universe
Thieves: The innovators of the Universe
Priests: The voices of the Universe
These four types each incorporate all other classifications and functions of the soul, including all seven ray energies, into their workings. In reality, everyone is a combination of these four types; but throughout the entire incarnating cycle of an individual soul, the Soul will choose to specialize in one of them. The qualities and natures of the soul types will determine largely the type of service the Soul will render, and how the soul appropriates energy and creates with that energy.
These four soul types come into predominance in 125-month cycles that manifest the basic influences of the particular soul type. In November 1960, the last Wizard cycle began, which lasted throughout the duration of the 60's until April 1971. The Thief cycle then came into manifestation throughout the 70's with its emphasis upon the breaking down of old patterns and the beginning of new ones. In September 1981, the cycle turned to the powerful pattern of the Warrior, which lasted until February 1992, when the cycle turned to the Priest. We are nearing the end of the Priest cycle, which will give way in July 2002, when the next Wizard cycle begins. For more information on these cycles, follow the individual type links above.
Calendar of the Cycles:
Cycle: Starts on:
Thief (Hunter) April 1846
Warrior (Soldier) September 1856
Priest (Sage) February 1867
Wizard (Mystic) July 1877
Thief (Jester) December 1887
Warrior (King) May 1898
Priest (Healer) October 1908
Wizard (Bard) March 1919
Thief (Rogue) August 1929
Warrior (Knight) January 1940
Priest (Bishop) June 1950
Wizard (Adept) November 1960
Thief (Gypsy) April 1971
Warrior (Warrior) September 1981
Priest (Monk) February 1992
Wizard (Druid) July 2002
Thief (Hunter) December 2012
In addition to the soul type, the Soul will also choose a persona vocation for the current incarnation which may or may not be the same as the Soul vocation. Thus, a Wizard soul may be working through a Warrior persona, or a Priest soul through a Thief persona. The particular combination of Soul/Persona type will determine largely the type of service the individual will manifest in his or her particular lifetime.
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24 September 2016 23:43
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There are far too many Wizard musicians to list all here. The most noteworthy of them are: Beethoven, Pachelbel, Paganinni, Mozart, Rachmanninov, Tchaikovsky, Jenny Lind, Cole Porter, Bobby Darin, Brian Wilson (Beach Boys), Dennis Wilson (Beach Boys), John Lennon, Frank Sinatra, Phil Collins, Sting, Paul Simon, Art Garfunkel, Keith Richards, Leon Russell, Eddie Van Halen, Jimi Hendrix, Roger Daltrey, Siouxie Sioux (the Banshees), Bono (U2), Kenny Loggins, Jim Croce, Jimmy Buffett, Basia, Neil Diamond, Ella Fitzgerald, Robert Plant, Jim Morrison, Jerry Garcia, Bruce Springsteen, Marshall Tucker, Toni Braxton, Gordon Lightfoot, Carly Simon, Luciano Pavarotti, Melissa Manchester, Cher, MC Hammer, Tone Loc, Krist Novocelik (Nirvana), and Yoko Ono. Wizard-based bands include Tangerine Dream, Jethro Tull, Blue Oyster Cult, the Guess Who, Alan Parsons Project, Crosby/Stills/Nash/Young, Hall & Oates, Manhattan Transfer, the Grateful Dead, The Beach Boys, The Moody Blues, Cheap Trick, The Doors, Bachman-Turner Overdrive, Talk Talk, The Bellamy Brothers, The Human League. Tears for Fears, INXS, En Vogue, The Spin Doctors, and, more recently, Fastball and Sugar Ray.
As performing artists in other media, Wizards tend to prefer back-seat roles. Often taking the role of the supporting actress or actor that everyone loves, a Wizard shines in his or her ability to fit several different characters. Noteworthy actors include: Johnny Depp, Molly Ringwald, Robert Redford, Angela Lansbury, Shirley MacLaine, Robert Duvall, Graham Chapman (Monty Python), Terry Gilliam (Monty Python), Whoopie Goldberg, Bonnie Franklin, Marina Sirtis, Leonard Nimoy, Orson Welles, Vincent Price, Rod Serling, Mel Gibson, Paul Newman, Jack Lemmon, Tony Randall, Tony Curtis, Doris Day, Judy Garland, Nicholas Cage, Goldie Hawn, Shelley Long, Mary Steenbergen, Jennifer Jason-Leigh, Martin Richards, Steve Martin, Sally Field, Olympia Dukakis, Cheech Marin, Tommy Chong, and Tommy Lee Jones.
Wizard artists abound. Ever pushing the envelope of reality, many of them introduced artistic movements that redefined their particular genres. Examples of famous Wizard artists include Picasso, Renoir, Toulouse-Lautrec, Matisse, Monet, Warhol, Dali, and El Greco. Wizards tend to be liberal with using both color, form, and ideas, and prefer art forms that evoke intense emotional responses from their audiences.
As leaders, Wizards will manifest for specific situations only. A Wizard leader is likely to be noteworthy because of the situation surrounding their leadership rather than internal qualities of the wizards themselves. Famous Wizard leaders include: Moses, Solomon, Abraham, Julius Caesar, Caligula, Cleopatra, Jesus Christ, Charles Martel, Queen Elizabeth I, Charles II of England, King Edward IV (abdicated), Queen Beatrix of Holland, Catherine the Great, Marie Antoinette, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Disraeli, Woodrow Wilson, and John F. Kennedy. In the worst case, they may manifest to wreak havoc or to shock humanity into a higher understanding of a situation, as with the infamous Wizard Adolf Hitler.
Wizards thrive in the areas of science and invention. However, they must learn to assess the consequences of their creations before loosing them onto humanity. Mary Shelley's story of Frankenstein details the horrific results of creation run amuck; a veritable parable of this lesson. Some noteworthy Wizard inventors and scientists include: Orville and Wilbur Wright, Eli Whitney, Galileo, Nikolas Copernicus, Johannes Kepler, Isaac Newton, Thomas Edison, Robert Oppenheimer, Frank Lloyd Wright, Marie Curie, Maria Mitchell, and Steven Hawking.
As authors, Wizards tend to write both about fantasy and reality; bridging the gap easily between that which is real and that which is unreal. Much of Wizard writing can be quite cerebral; however, Wizards also know how to recount a good tale and, after mastering the forms of words, can be excellent at the art of the pen. Famous Wizard authors include: Eudora Welty, Vladmir Nabokov, J. R. Tolkien, Eugene O'Neill, Neil Simon, Isaac Asimov, Gertrude Stein, Susan Sondheim, Alan Ginsberg, William Faulkner, Margaret Mitchell, Harper Lee, Maurice Sendak, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Ralph Waldo Emerson, William Blake, Geoffrey Chaucer, Oscar Wilde, Ray Bradbury, William B. Yeats, Marcel Proust, Leo Tolstoy, Henrik Ibsen, William Inge, and Emily Dickenson.
In their later cycles, Wizards are often drawn to the healing professions. Rather than surgeons, Wizards are found as general practitioners of medicine and may even become involved in alternative or holistic practicies. Mother Teresa of Calcutta is an example of a highly evolved Wizard healer, as was Aesclepius in Greek mythology.
Wizards must overcome two different challenges: that of arrogance and of self-deprecation. Arrogance is used in the early cycles of Wizard evolution as a karma-engendering device. As the soul matures, Wizards must guard against falling into the opposite trap of self-deprecation, or the tendency to beat themselves up over the tiniest failing.
Wizards tend to get along best with Warriors, as Warriors provide the needed protection for Wizards to be able to create. Both of them have common goals and methods of serving. Wizards also get along well with Priests because Priests, like Wizards, manipulate magic for the sake of service to the Divine Plan. Wizards may find Priests to be too fanatical or devoted to the status quo, however. Wizards and Thieves both challenge the structures of reality, which is a common ground. However, Thieves are overly ready to destroy the creations of Wizards in order to bring in something new, which may cause considerable friction between these two factions.
Wizard archetypes in mythology include: Merlin, Odin, Gandalf (Lord of the Rings), Vulcan, King Arthur of Camelot, Lord Krishna, and Freyr.
Other famous wizards include: Dion Fortune, Rudolf Steiner, H. P. Blavatsky, Siddhartha Gautama (the Buddha), Alice A. Bailey, Katheryn Kuhlman (faith healer), Isaiah, Daniel, Nefertari of Egypt, Pythagoras, Sophocles (greek playwrite), Aristotle, and Oprah Winfrey.
Keyword of the Wizard: I CREATE.
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As performing artists in other media, Wizards tend to prefer back-seat roles. Often taking the role of the supporting actress or actor that everyone loves, a Wizard shines in his or her ability to fit several different characters. Noteworthy actors include: Johnny Depp, Molly Ringwald, Robert Redford, Angela Lansbury, Shirley MacLaine, Robert Duvall, Graham Chapman (Monty Python), Terry Gilliam (Monty Python), Whoopie Goldberg, Bonnie Franklin, Marina Sirtis, Leonard Nimoy, Orson Welles, Vincent Price, Rod Serling, Mel Gibson, Paul Newman, Jack Lemmon, Tony Randall, Tony Curtis, Doris Day, Judy Garland, Nicholas Cage, Goldie Hawn, Shelley Long, Mary Steenbergen, Jennifer Jason-Leigh, Martin Richards, Steve Martin, Sally Field, Olympia Dukakis, Cheech Marin, Tommy Chong, and Tommy Lee Jones.
Wizard artists abound. Ever pushing the envelope of reality, many of them introduced artistic movements that redefined their particular genres. Examples of famous Wizard artists include Picasso, Renoir, Toulouse-Lautrec, Matisse, Monet, Warhol, Dali, and El Greco. Wizards tend to be liberal with using both color, form, and ideas, and prefer art forms that evoke intense emotional responses from their audiences.
As leaders, Wizards will manifest for specific situations only. A Wizard leader is likely to be noteworthy because of the situation surrounding their leadership rather than internal qualities of the wizards themselves. Famous Wizard leaders include: Moses, Solomon, Abraham, Julius Caesar, Caligula, Cleopatra, Jesus Christ, Charles Martel, Queen Elizabeth I, Charles II of England, King Edward IV (abdicated), Queen Beatrix of Holland, Catherine the Great, Marie Antoinette, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Disraeli, Woodrow Wilson, and John F. Kennedy. In the worst case, they may manifest to wreak havoc or to shock humanity into a higher understanding of a situation, as with the infamous Wizard Adolf Hitler.
Wizards thrive in the areas of science and invention. However, they must learn to assess the consequences of their creations before loosing them onto humanity. Mary Shelley's story of Frankenstein details the horrific results of creation run amuck; a veritable parable of this lesson. Some noteworthy Wizard inventors and scientists include: Orville and Wilbur Wright, Eli Whitney, Galileo, Nikolas Copernicus, Johannes Kepler, Isaac Newton, Thomas Edison, Robert Oppenheimer, Frank Lloyd Wright, Marie Curie, Maria Mitchell, and Steven Hawking.
As authors, Wizards tend to write both about fantasy and reality; bridging the gap easily between that which is real and that which is unreal. Much of Wizard writing can be quite cerebral; however, Wizards also know how to recount a good tale and, after mastering the forms of words, can be excellent at the art of the pen. Famous Wizard authors include: Eudora Welty, Vladmir Nabokov, J. R. Tolkien, Eugene O'Neill, Neil Simon, Isaac Asimov, Gertrude Stein, Susan Sondheim, Alan Ginsberg, William Faulkner, Margaret Mitchell, Harper Lee, Maurice Sendak, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Ralph Waldo Emerson, William Blake, Geoffrey Chaucer, Oscar Wilde, Ray Bradbury, William B. Yeats, Marcel Proust, Leo Tolstoy, Henrik Ibsen, William Inge, and Emily Dickenson.
In their later cycles, Wizards are often drawn to the healing professions. Rather than surgeons, Wizards are found as general practitioners of medicine and may even become involved in alternative or holistic practicies. Mother Teresa of Calcutta is an example of a highly evolved Wizard healer, as was Aesclepius in Greek mythology.
Wizards must overcome two different challenges: that of arrogance and of self-deprecation. Arrogance is used in the early cycles of Wizard evolution as a karma-engendering device. As the soul matures, Wizards must guard against falling into the opposite trap of self-deprecation, or the tendency to beat themselves up over the tiniest failing.
Wizards tend to get along best with Warriors, as Warriors provide the needed protection for Wizards to be able to create. Both of them have common goals and methods of serving. Wizards also get along well with Priests because Priests, like Wizards, manipulate magic for the sake of service to the Divine Plan. Wizards may find Priests to be too fanatical or devoted to the status quo, however. Wizards and Thieves both challenge the structures of reality, which is a common ground. However, Thieves are overly ready to destroy the creations of Wizards in order to bring in something new, which may cause considerable friction between these two factions.
Wizard archetypes in mythology include: Merlin, Odin, Gandalf (Lord of the Rings), Vulcan, King Arthur of Camelot, Lord Krishna, and Freyr.
Other famous wizards include: Dion Fortune, Rudolf Steiner, H. P. Blavatsky, Siddhartha Gautama (the Buddha), Alice A. Bailey, Katheryn Kuhlman (faith healer), Isaiah, Daniel, Nefertari of Egypt, Pythagoras, Sophocles (greek playwrite), Aristotle, and Oprah Winfrey.
Keyword of the Wizard: I CREATE.
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24 September 2016 23:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Of the four soul groups, no one is as misunderstood as that of the Wizard. In antiquity, people feared Wizards because of the power they wielded, not understanding their true purpose. The Wizard Soul seeks to manifest conscious creation in the world of affairs. While this is true to some extent of all the four soul groups, it is the Wizard that has specialized in this task. A wizard seeks to create, and to create consciously.
All four soul groups work with magic to some degree. While warriors use magic to defend, thieves to entertain and enlighten, and priests to inspire, Wizards work intensely with magic in what is known as the creative process. Wizards are the builders; the carpenters if you will, of reality. In their early stages of development, Wizards tend to create haphazardly, sometimes with seemingly little regard for the consequences of their creations, reaping karma for their later lessons along their path. As a wizard evolves into a mature soul, s/he seeks to clean up his or her own vessel of expression so as to manifest clearly his or her intent.
Much of a wizard's time during the middle stage is spent in laborious studies and ritual practices, not to learn "spells" but to purify their own bodies (physical, astral, and mental) to better align them with their Soul. Because of this time-consuming effort, many Wizards along their path pick up the erroneous idea that they must be solitary; unable to work with or interact strongly with others. This erroneous concept has led to many a lonely Wizard who became disgusted with their life's work and chucked it right before they were about to make a breakthrough. In truth, Wizards need human companionship and interaction far more than do some of the other Soul groups; they thrive on human interaction. When they are isolated, they tend to numb their pain with alcohol and other chemical substances, or revert to destructive behavior patterns and vengeful actions. Thus you see the rising of the "black adept," the wizard who creates solely out of the separative will aspect, usually to get revenge upon his or her "enemies" or to garner a degree of power that they feel they have given up or lost. Such wizards must repeat these lessons until they have concluded that the path to evolution stems from conscious co-creation using the Divine Will aspect.
Highly polarized in the Astral and Mental Planes, Wizards are naturally drawn to mental rather than menial activity. The fields of art and music are rife with Wizard souls, who find outlets for their immense creative potential there. There are many wizard inventors as well as teachers and healers. Wizards in general do not seek to become leaders; they leave such tasks to warriors and priests. A Wizard will become a great leader only under dire circumstances or when others need his or her aid in creating consciously via a group dynamic. However, because of their dynamic natures, Wizards quite often achieve positions of fame.
Wizards have throughout history tended to be the dominant force in the field of Music. Both composers and lyricists, they understand intrinsically the relationship of music, vibration, and creation. A wizard musician is not interested in getting a point across like a warrior, or entertaining like a thief, or delving deep into philosophy like a priest. Wizards use music to alter their surroundings and the level of consciousness of the beings around them. If this is accomplished by the instrumental portion, fine; if by the lyrics, that's fine as well. A Wizard is less concerned about musical statements as s/he is by technique; using music to transcend ordinary reality and thus raise the level of consciousness of their surroundings higher and higher. You will recognize music created by highly evolved Wizards because of its transcendent quality; seeming to reach beyond the boundaries of time and space.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/wizard.html
All four soul groups work with magic to some degree. While warriors use magic to defend, thieves to entertain and enlighten, and priests to inspire, Wizards work intensely with magic in what is known as the creative process. Wizards are the builders; the carpenters if you will, of reality. In their early stages of development, Wizards tend to create haphazardly, sometimes with seemingly little regard for the consequences of their creations, reaping karma for their later lessons along their path. As a wizard evolves into a mature soul, s/he seeks to clean up his or her own vessel of expression so as to manifest clearly his or her intent.
Much of a wizard's time during the middle stage is spent in laborious studies and ritual practices, not to learn "spells" but to purify their own bodies (physical, astral, and mental) to better align them with their Soul. Because of this time-consuming effort, many Wizards along their path pick up the erroneous idea that they must be solitary; unable to work with or interact strongly with others. This erroneous concept has led to many a lonely Wizard who became disgusted with their life's work and chucked it right before they were about to make a breakthrough. In truth, Wizards need human companionship and interaction far more than do some of the other Soul groups; they thrive on human interaction. When they are isolated, they tend to numb their pain with alcohol and other chemical substances, or revert to destructive behavior patterns and vengeful actions. Thus you see the rising of the "black adept," the wizard who creates solely out of the separative will aspect, usually to get revenge upon his or her "enemies" or to garner a degree of power that they feel they have given up or lost. Such wizards must repeat these lessons until they have concluded that the path to evolution stems from conscious co-creation using the Divine Will aspect.
Highly polarized in the Astral and Mental Planes, Wizards are naturally drawn to mental rather than menial activity. The fields of art and music are rife with Wizard souls, who find outlets for their immense creative potential there. There are many wizard inventors as well as teachers and healers. Wizards in general do not seek to become leaders; they leave such tasks to warriors and priests. A Wizard will become a great leader only under dire circumstances or when others need his or her aid in creating consciously via a group dynamic. However, because of their dynamic natures, Wizards quite often achieve positions of fame.
Wizards have throughout history tended to be the dominant force in the field of Music. Both composers and lyricists, they understand intrinsically the relationship of music, vibration, and creation. A wizard musician is not interested in getting a point across like a warrior, or entertaining like a thief, or delving deep into philosophy like a priest. Wizards use music to alter their surroundings and the level of consciousness of the beings around them. If this is accomplished by the instrumental portion, fine; if by the lyrics, that's fine as well. A Wizard is less concerned about musical statements as s/he is by technique; using music to transcend ordinary reality and thus raise the level of consciousness of their surroundings higher and higher. You will recognize music created by highly evolved Wizards because of its transcendent quality; seeming to reach beyond the boundaries of time and space.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/wizard.html
http://www.wizardrealm.com/metaphysics/wizard.html
24 September 2016 23:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in other words, it seems as if Moses already knew – and communicated to the Levites – which family would be in charge of which component of cargo; yet that command is only given in the next month!
The answer to this puzzle lies in our understanding of the Torah as an “edited” text; in other words, the events were not recorded as they happened, rather at some point later, God commanded Moses to commit them to writing – and in an order that would maintain narrative flow as it clarifies the reasons and etiology of certain practices. This is, parenthetically, a point of consensus among nearly all medieval commentators (Rishonim) and is fully anchored in traditional Rabbinic exegesis. In the example invoked above, although the text marks the dates when the chieftains brought their gifts and when the people were to be counted (and the Levites were given their assignments), the final editing took place at a time when the results of those were all known – hence, the distribution of the wagons and oxen is integrated into the text of Numbers 7 to complete the narrative of the gifts and identify where each ended up.
This an example of a chronologically “flexible” narrative; yet there are more obvious examples of “interjected texts”, such as I Samuel 9:9 and Ruth 4:7 where early nomenclature or practices are clarified for the later (current) audience who would no longer recognize the words or practice invoked.
This short introduction will help us demystify several enigmatic passages involving the wizards of Pharaoh’s court and their role in the “Plagues narrative”.
I
HARTUMEI MITZRAYIM
The wizards/magicians of Pharaoh’s court appear in the Biblical narrative several times – and in all cases, they come off as quite incompetent and hapless.
http://torah.org/torah-portion/mikra-5774-vaera/
The answer to this puzzle lies in our understanding of the Torah as an “edited” text; in other words, the events were not recorded as they happened, rather at some point later, God commanded Moses to commit them to writing – and in an order that would maintain narrative flow as it clarifies the reasons and etiology of certain practices. This is, parenthetically, a point of consensus among nearly all medieval commentators (Rishonim) and is fully anchored in traditional Rabbinic exegesis. In the example invoked above, although the text marks the dates when the chieftains brought their gifts and when the people were to be counted (and the Levites were given their assignments), the final editing took place at a time when the results of those were all known – hence, the distribution of the wagons and oxen is integrated into the text of Numbers 7 to complete the narrative of the gifts and identify where each ended up.
This an example of a chronologically “flexible” narrative; yet there are more obvious examples of “interjected texts”, such as I Samuel 9:9 and Ruth 4:7 where early nomenclature or practices are clarified for the later (current) audience who would no longer recognize the words or practice invoked.
This short introduction will help us demystify several enigmatic passages involving the wizards of Pharaoh’s court and their role in the “Plagues narrative”.
I
HARTUMEI MITZRAYIM
The wizards/magicians of Pharaoh’s court appear in the Biblical narrative several times – and in all cases, they come off as quite incompetent and hapless.
http://torah.org/torah-portion/mikra-5774-vaera/
http://torah.org/torah-portion/mikra-5774-vaera/
24 September 2016 23:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
H. P. Blavatsky: Get an odd job and get your hands dirty
Mirra Alfassa: Do Yoga
Alexandra David-Néel: Bend the rules
Leonora Carrington: Madness Can be Illuminating
Remedios Varo: Know your symbols
and isis girl Olivia Robertson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_mystics
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/13-powerful-women-mystics-who-helped-shape-christianity_us_55f9a53ce4b0d6492d63e7c7
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/03/why-are-there-so-few-female-magicians/274099/
http://ultraculture.org/blog/2015/02/06/5-secrets-female-master-mystics-magicians/
Mirra Alfassa: Do Yoga
Alexandra David-Néel: Bend the rules
Leonora Carrington: Madness Can be Illuminating
Remedios Varo: Know your symbols
and isis girl Olivia Robertson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_mystics
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/13-powerful-women-mystics-who-helped-shape-christianity_us_55f9a53ce4b0d6492d63e7c7
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/03/why-are-there-so-few-female-magicians/274099/
http://ultraculture.org/blog/2015/02/06/5-secrets-female-master-mystics-magicians/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_mystics
24 September 2016 23:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nüüdne turistikas, Linn millest räägiti, mis muus dimensioonis vast räägitakse..:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lhasa
http://www.lookandlearn.com/blog/17677/lhasa-tibets-forbidden-city-revealed-its-secrets-to-alexandra-david-neel/
http://info-buddhism.com/Buddhism_in_the_West_and_Image_of_Tibet-Dagyab_Rinpoche.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lhasa
http://www.lookandlearn.com/blog/17677/lhasa-tibets-forbidden-city-revealed-its-secrets-to-alexandra-david-neel/
http://info-buddhism.com/Buddhism_in_the_West_and_Image_of_Tibet-Dagyab_Rinpoche.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lhasa
24 September 2016 23:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The final countdown
The rest of the solution is deep introspection and reconnection with the higher part of yourself that exists in another dimension. As a multidimensional being of light having a human experience, we forgot that we have always had this connection. Fear closes the energetic centers of the body that allow this connection, therefore fear has been used as a weapon against us.
psychic-love-spellsLove opens all of the doors and in concert with raising your vibration you can begin to bring more of your soul essence of light into your body. This is the secret solution that we knew we would begin to remember. We have the ability to vibrate ourselves into a new reality where fourth dimensional astral beings do not exist in our consciousness. By moving our consciousness within, our external world will change around us. This is what you came into this human form to do.
This article is magic. It has spelling which puts an idea of freedom into the human consciousness field through knowledge. It is a powerful tool and is designed to open the doors for you to explore this topic further with guidance from your higher self. We all came here with a plan and with help in unseen realms that we call our spirit guides and angels. Ask them to help guide you to the answers within. This will lead to answers outside of yourself in the form of articles, books, and eventually a direct connection to your own soul who has all of the answers you will need to find your wings to free yourself.
new profile picAbout the author: Michelle Walling is a Certified Holistic Life Coach. She has devoted her life to being a bearer and grounder of the light in service to others. As a truth seeker, she is committed to share her experiences with the world. She is also a hands-on healer, a distance healer, an empath, and an intuitive. Michelle has recently joined forces with Gregg Prescott as an admin for the In5d Facebook page, as an assistant for In5d Events, as a contributing author for www.in5d.com. Michelle also supports Gregg’s endeavors in many other areas including alternative and holistic healthcare. Their next project is a walk in clinic under the name AHH- Alternative Holistic Healthcare to be launched in 2014-2015 in the Sarasota, Florida area, and then subsidiaries will be opened around the world based upon that model. Michelle Walling’s cosmic writing website is CosmicStarseeds.com. Holistic Counseling sessions can be booked on the website MichelleWalling.com. Michelle’s personal Facebook page can be found here
The rest of the solution is deep introspection and reconnection with the higher part of yourself that exists in another dimension. As a multidimensional being of light having a human experience, we forgot that we have always had this connection. Fear closes the energetic centers of the body that allow this connection, therefore fear has been used as a weapon against us.
psychic-love-spellsLove opens all of the doors and in concert with raising your vibration you can begin to bring more of your soul essence of light into your body. This is the secret solution that we knew we would begin to remember. We have the ability to vibrate ourselves into a new reality where fourth dimensional astral beings do not exist in our consciousness. By moving our consciousness within, our external world will change around us. This is what you came into this human form to do.
This article is magic. It has spelling which puts an idea of freedom into the human consciousness field through knowledge. It is a powerful tool and is designed to open the doors for you to explore this topic further with guidance from your higher self. We all came here with a plan and with help in unseen realms that we call our spirit guides and angels. Ask them to help guide you to the answers within. This will lead to answers outside of yourself in the form of articles, books, and eventually a direct connection to your own soul who has all of the answers you will need to find your wings to free yourself.
new profile picAbout the author: Michelle Walling is a Certified Holistic Life Coach. She has devoted her life to being a bearer and grounder of the light in service to others. As a truth seeker, she is committed to share her experiences with the world. She is also a hands-on healer, a distance healer, an empath, and an intuitive. Michelle has recently joined forces with Gregg Prescott as an admin for the In5d Facebook page, as an assistant for In5d Events, as a contributing author for www.in5d.com. Michelle also supports Gregg’s endeavors in many other areas including alternative and holistic healthcare. Their next project is a walk in clinic under the name AHH- Alternative Holistic Healthcare to be launched in 2014-2015 in the Sarasota, Florida area, and then subsidiaries will be opened around the world based upon that model. Michelle Walling’s cosmic writing website is CosmicStarseeds.com. Holistic Counseling sessions can be booked on the website MichelleWalling.com. Michelle’s personal Facebook page can be found here
http://www.in5d.com/
24 September 2016 23:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
What can we do to reverse black magic?
When a human has an awakening experience and realizes that they are a spirit incarnated into a human body and have probably incarnated many times on the planet, he or she realizes that the spirit never dies. This begins to dissipate a fear of dying and opens the door to many questions about our existence. When one steps through the door and realizes that almost everything in our reality was devised to manipulate us by keeping us in fear and low vibration, the answer to reversing this programming becomes simple.
Knowledge of who we are as multidimensional beings of light trapped in a lower vibrational experience is the beginning of learning how to raise your vibration in order to free yourself from the hidden illusions of black magic.
As we enter the Age of Aquarius we are entering a window of time of about a thousand years where the Earth will raise her vibration back out of this reality with the help of light beings that have incarnated on her who are carrying as much light as they can possibly hold, thereby anchoring light into her body. All incarnations are said to have been in preparation for this lifetime in which the Earth has received enough free willed light to help her shift into a higher dimension once again.
The dark beings will not be able to exist on her anymore due to the Universal law of Vibrational Attainment. Not only will this help planet Earth but is it said that these beings infiltrated other parts of the Universe and a galactic war between the dark and the light has ensued that includes time travel and time rifts. By repairing the rift that occurred from its origin, the dark will be cut off once again from affecting the fifth dimension via third dimensional connection.
Discerning the truth for yourself
There are many spiritual and metaphysical explanations of various levels and terminology which explain what we are doing on the planet at this time. Some use various ways to explain the things that have been described in this article using different words or spelling. Some are propagated lies created to mislead. But one truth seems to make sense over everything. Our planet is being destroyed by a small group of wealthy “elitists” that come from a very controlled bloodline. They have an agenda of planned genocide even if it means having to eventually live underground, taking their slaves for food with them.
No matter what they are called, we feel like we have been led to an awakening that they feed off of humans and they have lied to them in order to get them to keep complying. That is the simplest way to explain it without stories of Atlantis or explanations of Golden Ages. The simplest way to solve it is to remove your energy from the experience.
Stop giving your energy away
moneySome people are pulling their money out of banks and others are not paying credit card bills, fines, and tickets. Some people are trying to live “off the grid” and are starting communities where they can grow their own food and barter without money. Some are selling their houses to avoid paying mortgage interest or taxes. Many are realizing that materialism is one big trap and are letting go of things that weigh them down. People who once worked in an Illuminati field such as banking, oil and gas, media, etc. are finding other careers. Many people have stopped watching television and have even removed them from their homes.
There are a number of ways to consciously pull yourself out of the system that has a hold on the majority of the planet. Realizing what the system is comprised of, making conscious choices to remove yourself from that system, and helping to educate and support others is what has been termed “peaceful non-compliance”. This is one of the basic things that will remove your energy from their grasp. Just like cutting energetic cords from other humans, the energetic cords can be cut from the system designed to harvest our energy. Without energy, these beings cannot survive.
When a human has an awakening experience and realizes that they are a spirit incarnated into a human body and have probably incarnated many times on the planet, he or she realizes that the spirit never dies. This begins to dissipate a fear of dying and opens the door to many questions about our existence. When one steps through the door and realizes that almost everything in our reality was devised to manipulate us by keeping us in fear and low vibration, the answer to reversing this programming becomes simple.
Knowledge of who we are as multidimensional beings of light trapped in a lower vibrational experience is the beginning of learning how to raise your vibration in order to free yourself from the hidden illusions of black magic.
As we enter the Age of Aquarius we are entering a window of time of about a thousand years where the Earth will raise her vibration back out of this reality with the help of light beings that have incarnated on her who are carrying as much light as they can possibly hold, thereby anchoring light into her body. All incarnations are said to have been in preparation for this lifetime in which the Earth has received enough free willed light to help her shift into a higher dimension once again.
The dark beings will not be able to exist on her anymore due to the Universal law of Vibrational Attainment. Not only will this help planet Earth but is it said that these beings infiltrated other parts of the Universe and a galactic war between the dark and the light has ensued that includes time travel and time rifts. By repairing the rift that occurred from its origin, the dark will be cut off once again from affecting the fifth dimension via third dimensional connection.
Discerning the truth for yourself
There are many spiritual and metaphysical explanations of various levels and terminology which explain what we are doing on the planet at this time. Some use various ways to explain the things that have been described in this article using different words or spelling. Some are propagated lies created to mislead. But one truth seems to make sense over everything. Our planet is being destroyed by a small group of wealthy “elitists” that come from a very controlled bloodline. They have an agenda of planned genocide even if it means having to eventually live underground, taking their slaves for food with them.
No matter what they are called, we feel like we have been led to an awakening that they feed off of humans and they have lied to them in order to get them to keep complying. That is the simplest way to explain it without stories of Atlantis or explanations of Golden Ages. The simplest way to solve it is to remove your energy from the experience.
Stop giving your energy away
moneySome people are pulling their money out of banks and others are not paying credit card bills, fines, and tickets. Some people are trying to live “off the grid” and are starting communities where they can grow their own food and barter without money. Some are selling their houses to avoid paying mortgage interest or taxes. Many are realizing that materialism is one big trap and are letting go of things that weigh them down. People who once worked in an Illuminati field such as banking, oil and gas, media, etc. are finding other careers. Many people have stopped watching television and have even removed them from their homes.
There are a number of ways to consciously pull yourself out of the system that has a hold on the majority of the planet. Realizing what the system is comprised of, making conscious choices to remove yourself from that system, and helping to educate and support others is what has been termed “peaceful non-compliance”. This is one of the basic things that will remove your energy from their grasp. Just like cutting energetic cords from other humans, the energetic cords can be cut from the system designed to harvest our energy. Without energy, these beings cannot survive.
24 September 2016 23:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Every time there was a chance for humanity to free themselves from this magical illusion, the attempts were thwarted by those of the dark rift and humanity fell further and further into a deep spell that made them think they needed to be controlled and told what to do and how to do it. About 7,000 years ago, the dark beings began destroying as much evidence of the Altantean society as possible, hiding the remnant of any powers of magic from the abilities of average humans.
White magic knowledge was carefully guarded by those called Essenes and the Knights Templar throughout the ages, and were passed down through word of mouth and secret symbols. This was eventually infiltrated by the dark as well, and factions of secret society groups continued to practice dark rituals behind closed doors.
The plan to completely take over the planet was a huge success due to the knowledge of the mind and how to control it remotely through another dimension. By hiding their manipulation behind other minions, these beings controlled humans like puppets on strings and became wealthy rulers and dark lords throughout the ages. Blood sacrifices were necessary for them to stay alive as well as mining low vibrational energy off of humans. Therefore it was absolutely necessary to keep humans in a low state of vibration and to keep the secret of this secret.
Humans are connected to the planet as we are made of her elements, just as humans and the planet are connected to their Creator Source. Due to the infiltration of these beings who cast darkness across the planet, the Earth fell in her vibration at the time of the fall of the Atlantis civilization. Some say that Earth volunteered to lower her vibration in order to quarantine the mix of beings from other dimensions because that was never supposed to happen and had never happened before. EARTH ASCENSIONFurthermore, there was a plan put in place by her and her Creator to allow the experience to occur but the plan would allow her rise again. This would require humanity to use their free will to choose to rise above fear and control into love, and to remember who they are as a spark of their Creator.
Fast forward to today’s reflection of what is happening. The mind controlling of humanity has become like a computer program where thought is manipulated. Various forms of technology are used to insure humans do not wake up from this control. They do not want humans to realize that their higher minds exist in a higher plane of density and that they have always had access to this higher self. They also keep them from realizing that although they are told they are free, quite the opposite is true. Mind control and manipulation of illusion is the form of black magic that is controlling humanity today.
White magic knowledge was carefully guarded by those called Essenes and the Knights Templar throughout the ages, and were passed down through word of mouth and secret symbols. This was eventually infiltrated by the dark as well, and factions of secret society groups continued to practice dark rituals behind closed doors.
The plan to completely take over the planet was a huge success due to the knowledge of the mind and how to control it remotely through another dimension. By hiding their manipulation behind other minions, these beings controlled humans like puppets on strings and became wealthy rulers and dark lords throughout the ages. Blood sacrifices were necessary for them to stay alive as well as mining low vibrational energy off of humans. Therefore it was absolutely necessary to keep humans in a low state of vibration and to keep the secret of this secret.
Humans are connected to the planet as we are made of her elements, just as humans and the planet are connected to their Creator Source. Due to the infiltration of these beings who cast darkness across the planet, the Earth fell in her vibration at the time of the fall of the Atlantis civilization. Some say that Earth volunteered to lower her vibration in order to quarantine the mix of beings from other dimensions because that was never supposed to happen and had never happened before. EARTH ASCENSIONFurthermore, there was a plan put in place by her and her Creator to allow the experience to occur but the plan would allow her rise again. This would require humanity to use their free will to choose to rise above fear and control into love, and to remember who they are as a spark of their Creator.
Fast forward to today’s reflection of what is happening. The mind controlling of humanity has become like a computer program where thought is manipulated. Various forms of technology are used to insure humans do not wake up from this control. They do not want humans to realize that their higher minds exist in a higher plane of density and that they have always had access to this higher self. They also keep them from realizing that although they are told they are free, quite the opposite is true. Mind control and manipulation of illusion is the form of black magic that is controlling humanity today.
24 September 2016 23:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// enamus read sisaldavad midagi head ka
The difference between black magic and white magic is that black magic infringes upon the free will of individuals and is the misuse of tools that were intended to assist in spiritual ascension. Whereas white magic is all about alchemy and transformation in a spiritual sense, black magic is used for domination, power, and control. As we live in a world of duality, everything has its opposite.duality-1
These definitions of magic are derived from what we have been told about it in books and on the internet. There is a deeper understanding of magic that connects beyond our reality. Magic is actually a multidimensional tool used to form the illusion we see, feel, and hear and this power has been hidden from us since the time of Atlantis. It was passed down through several years from priests and priestesses that taught people how to manifest things from the background or formless energy.
Magic was intended for use of spiritually minded individuals who had an understanding of the power of manifestation and were able to use it responsibly. Only those of a hierarchy level of priest or priestess had access to this because they had proven their responsibility to use it with permission for an individual and for the betterment of humankind. Although it has been said many times that humans are “all one”, it has also been obvious that we are all at different levels of individual progression on our spiritual path.
How magic caused the “Fall of Atlantis”
The following account of the use of black magic to control humanity is derived from a mixture of channeled messages, books about Atlantis, books about ascension, and an innate knowing that freeing ourselves of black magic programming is what we need to accomplish. Use your own discernment in reading this material and decide whether this is the truth of your reality.
Atlantis MapThere were selfish and greedy people in Atlantis as well as highly evolved spiritual people just as there are Illuminati and Lightworkers on the planet today. Although the human mental body (mind) and the spiritual body were anchored in the fifth dimension, the physical body was anchored in the third dimension. By free will choice, one could explore the fifth dimension while occupying a third dimensional physical space, and others could choose to experience what it was like to vibrate on a lower third dimensional way of life on the planet. These people were split up into groups and colonies across the vast continent.
Something happened in Atlantis that was never supposed to happen in the overall plan of humanity living together as “one” but in individuality and duality. The selfish, greedy people got their hands on ancient rituals used by priests and priestesses and used them in order to further their wealth and power over the people of Atlantis. They intended to take over the whole planet, and by the looks of things today it seems they were successful.
Detail of Hell from Fresco Cycle by Frederico Zuccaro and Giorgio VasariThe result of this was a rift through the dimensions that opened up a tear in the lower fourth dimension; the astral realm. This is one of the nastiest places one can imagine and has been likened to “Hell”. Extraterrestrials in the form of reptiles, Earth-bound spirits, and djinn (genies and tricksters) are a few of the culprits here. Beings came through the rift and infiltrated the Atlantis colony, attaching themselves to those of a lower vibration that summoned them and to others that were simply living a lower third dimensional life. They required human blood in order to anchor themselves on this side of the rift, and they used their knowledge of mind control to get the people to give it to them.
They destroyed civilization in Atlantis with a misuse of technology and they continued their reign as they spread across the planet through incarnation. They were only able to do this by establishing a true pure bloodline from the beginning of their arrival and the ability to project their essence into a human body. They did this with black magic through the use of the blood ritual. This bloodline is highly protected today, as the small core of the Illuminati interbreeds with only pure chosen bloodline family members
http://cosmicstarseeds.com/how-black-magic-is-controlling-humanity/
The difference between black magic and white magic is that black magic infringes upon the free will of individuals and is the misuse of tools that were intended to assist in spiritual ascension. Whereas white magic is all about alchemy and transformation in a spiritual sense, black magic is used for domination, power, and control. As we live in a world of duality, everything has its opposite.duality-1
These definitions of magic are derived from what we have been told about it in books and on the internet. There is a deeper understanding of magic that connects beyond our reality. Magic is actually a multidimensional tool used to form the illusion we see, feel, and hear and this power has been hidden from us since the time of Atlantis. It was passed down through several years from priests and priestesses that taught people how to manifest things from the background or formless energy.
Magic was intended for use of spiritually minded individuals who had an understanding of the power of manifestation and were able to use it responsibly. Only those of a hierarchy level of priest or priestess had access to this because they had proven their responsibility to use it with permission for an individual and for the betterment of humankind. Although it has been said many times that humans are “all one”, it has also been obvious that we are all at different levels of individual progression on our spiritual path.
How magic caused the “Fall of Atlantis”
The following account of the use of black magic to control humanity is derived from a mixture of channeled messages, books about Atlantis, books about ascension, and an innate knowing that freeing ourselves of black magic programming is what we need to accomplish. Use your own discernment in reading this material and decide whether this is the truth of your reality.
Atlantis MapThere were selfish and greedy people in Atlantis as well as highly evolved spiritual people just as there are Illuminati and Lightworkers on the planet today. Although the human mental body (mind) and the spiritual body were anchored in the fifth dimension, the physical body was anchored in the third dimension. By free will choice, one could explore the fifth dimension while occupying a third dimensional physical space, and others could choose to experience what it was like to vibrate on a lower third dimensional way of life on the planet. These people were split up into groups and colonies across the vast continent.
Something happened in Atlantis that was never supposed to happen in the overall plan of humanity living together as “one” but in individuality and duality. The selfish, greedy people got their hands on ancient rituals used by priests and priestesses and used them in order to further their wealth and power over the people of Atlantis. They intended to take over the whole planet, and by the looks of things today it seems they were successful.
Detail of Hell from Fresco Cycle by Frederico Zuccaro and Giorgio VasariThe result of this was a rift through the dimensions that opened up a tear in the lower fourth dimension; the astral realm. This is one of the nastiest places one can imagine and has been likened to “Hell”. Extraterrestrials in the form of reptiles, Earth-bound spirits, and djinn (genies and tricksters) are a few of the culprits here. Beings came through the rift and infiltrated the Atlantis colony, attaching themselves to those of a lower vibration that summoned them and to others that were simply living a lower third dimensional life. They required human blood in order to anchor themselves on this side of the rift, and they used their knowledge of mind control to get the people to give it to them.
They destroyed civilization in Atlantis with a misuse of technology and they continued their reign as they spread across the planet through incarnation. They were only able to do this by establishing a true pure bloodline from the beginning of their arrival and the ability to project their essence into a human body. They did this with black magic through the use of the blood ritual. This bloodline is highly protected today, as the small core of the Illuminati interbreeds with only pure chosen bloodline family members
http://cosmicstarseeds.com/how-black-magic-is-controlling-humanity/
http://cosmicstarseeds.com/how-black-magic-is-controlling-humanity/
24 September 2016 23:21
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Sellepärast mulle meeldis cvunts.. sest tema polnud.. ehk ei hakka ka olema
24 September 2016 23:18
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"Satanists teach that the last thing Satan wants is for people to have clear proof of the supernatural, yet magicians like Dynamo, Yif, David Blaine, Criss Angel, and Justin Flom have definitely crossed that line. David Copperfield is widely considered to be the greatest magician in world history. Copperfield is a magician, sorcerer, or wizard obviously practicing Black Magic yet few people seem to be aware of it. Most people simply believe he is a brilliant magician using very expensive equipment and technology.
In Episode 6 of the Demon Magicians video by Xendrius you learn that magic is the only art form where demons can show off their supernatural powers without much risk of the actual truth being exposed. Demons are vain and love using magicians to show off their supernatural powers. They love seeing the shocked looks of disbelief on the faces of the stupid humans.
The demons know that the vast majority of people simply believe it's all just a trick, just another illusion, and strictly entertainment. I am just thankful for the Demon's vanity making them careless enough to reveal the fact that they are, indeed, real.
https://exemplore.com/paranormal/PROOF-that-DEMONS-are-REAL
In Episode 6 of the Demon Magicians video by Xendrius you learn that magic is the only art form where demons can show off their supernatural powers without much risk of the actual truth being exposed. Demons are vain and love using magicians to show off their supernatural powers. They love seeing the shocked looks of disbelief on the faces of the stupid humans.
The demons know that the vast majority of people simply believe it's all just a trick, just another illusion, and strictly entertainment. I am just thankful for the Demon's vanity making them careless enough to reveal the fact that they are, indeed, real.
https://exemplore.com/paranormal/PROOF-that-DEMONS-are-REAL
https://exemplore.com/paranormal/PROOF-that-DEMONS-are-REAL
24 September 2016 23:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_magic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_magic
24 September 2016 23:13
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7. Thaumaturgists
Thaumaturgy, in many ways, is an integration of all other forms of magic. Literally meaning "miracle-workers", thaumaturgists transcend physical reality through the practices of their art. The goal of the thaumaturge is to abrogate or bend physical laws to bring about conscious creation. Next to adepts, thaumaturgists are what most people think of when they think about the concept of "wizard."
One of the most famous examples of thaumaturgy is in the Biblical story of the Wedding at Cana, where Christ changes water into wine. Most of Christ's miracles were thaumaturgical in nature, including the ability to walk on water, curing of lepers, healing the deaf and blind, multiplying the loaves and fish to feed the multitude, and bringing Lazarus back from the dead. Earlier in the Bible, Elisha evidences similar thaumaturgical practice in performing miracles of multiplication (creating more oil for the widow in debt), raising of the dead (as in Jared's daughter), and the neutralization of poisoned well water. Levitation is another thaumaturgical practice, practiced by many saints, as is illusion (the ability to seemingly dematerialize; to become invisible, or to project images into others minds).
Of all the magical arts, thaumaturgy is the most difficult to master. Those who do are considered to be of a very high origin; saintly or holy, in that Divine energies of manifestation are working directly through them.
Types of thaumaturgical practice include conjuration, telekinesis, illusion, and transformation of matter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaumaturgy
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/thaumaturgist
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/thaumaturgist
www.dictionary.com/browse/thaumaturgist
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldbuilding/comments/31kxfa/a_detailed_look_into_thaumaturgy_magic_system/
http://www.neopagan.net/AT_Laws.html
http://humanityhealing.net/2012/04/thaumaturgy-and-the-magic-of-miracles/
http://www.neopagan.net/AT_Laws.html
Game:
http://wiki.project1999.com/The_Thaumaturgist
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/prestigeClasses/thaumaturgist.htm
Thaumaturgy, in many ways, is an integration of all other forms of magic. Literally meaning "miracle-workers", thaumaturgists transcend physical reality through the practices of their art. The goal of the thaumaturge is to abrogate or bend physical laws to bring about conscious creation. Next to adepts, thaumaturgists are what most people think of when they think about the concept of "wizard."
One of the most famous examples of thaumaturgy is in the Biblical story of the Wedding at Cana, where Christ changes water into wine. Most of Christ's miracles were thaumaturgical in nature, including the ability to walk on water, curing of lepers, healing the deaf and blind, multiplying the loaves and fish to feed the multitude, and bringing Lazarus back from the dead. Earlier in the Bible, Elisha evidences similar thaumaturgical practice in performing miracles of multiplication (creating more oil for the widow in debt), raising of the dead (as in Jared's daughter), and the neutralization of poisoned well water. Levitation is another thaumaturgical practice, practiced by many saints, as is illusion (the ability to seemingly dematerialize; to become invisible, or to project images into others minds).
Of all the magical arts, thaumaturgy is the most difficult to master. Those who do are considered to be of a very high origin; saintly or holy, in that Divine energies of manifestation are working directly through them.
Types of thaumaturgical practice include conjuration, telekinesis, illusion, and transformation of matter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaumaturgy
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/thaumaturgist
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/thaumaturgist
www.dictionary.com/browse/thaumaturgist
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldbuilding/comments/31kxfa/a_detailed_look_into_thaumaturgy_magic_system/
http://www.neopagan.net/AT_Laws.html
http://humanityhealing.net/2012/04/thaumaturgy-and-the-magic-of-miracles/
http://www.neopagan.net/AT_Laws.html
Game:
http://wiki.project1999.com/The_Thaumaturgist
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/prestigeClasses/thaumaturgist.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaumaturgy
24 September 2016 22:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6. Shamans
Many people equate shamanism with the spiritual practices of the Native Americans, and it is true that they tend to manifest their energies in the shamanic tradition of healing practices. However, Shamanism has its roots in Siberia, in the Altai region, where it was practiced in neolithic times.
Shamans are intermediaries between the physical and spiritual planes. They are both healers and diviners. Shamans work directly with discarnate beings (spirits), either allowing them to manifest through his or her physical equipment to work out prior karma, or to glean information from them about the spiritual realms and to provide healing or answers to problems of others. Spiritual healing is predominantly a Shamanic art; the Lakota term for "magic" and "medicine" are the same word.
Shamans tend to be the most predominant of all the wizard types, being found in many ethnic cultures. Types of shamanic magic include native American shamanism, voudoun, curanderia, psychopompos (those who assist the dying with their transition to the spiritual plane), spirit work, vision questing, and divination.
Darker forms of shamanism, associated with lower energies and older magical practices, include shapeshifting, demonology, and necromancy. Such practices are no longer needed in the higher energy vibrations.
// some of that is funny to read..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamanism
https://www.shamanism.com/
www.crystalinks.com/shamanism.html
https://www.shamanism.org/
www.williamjames.com/History/SHAMANS.htm
www.shamanicteachers.com/
www.takingcharge.csh.umn.edu/explore-healing-practices/shamanism
https://www.britannica.com/topic/shamanism
https://www.shamanlinks.net/
deoxy.org/shaman.htm
http://shamanschool.com/
http://norse-mythology.org/concepts/shamanism/
http://www.thekeep.org/~wombat/Stories/Pulp/Shaman
http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/shamans-using-sites-like-facebook-for-black-magic-says-malaysian-official/
http://www.brujonegrobrujeria.com/page/page/716736.htm
Many people equate shamanism with the spiritual practices of the Native Americans, and it is true that they tend to manifest their energies in the shamanic tradition of healing practices. However, Shamanism has its roots in Siberia, in the Altai region, where it was practiced in neolithic times.
Shamans are intermediaries between the physical and spiritual planes. They are both healers and diviners. Shamans work directly with discarnate beings (spirits), either allowing them to manifest through his or her physical equipment to work out prior karma, or to glean information from them about the spiritual realms and to provide healing or answers to problems of others. Spiritual healing is predominantly a Shamanic art; the Lakota term for "magic" and "medicine" are the same word.
Shamans tend to be the most predominant of all the wizard types, being found in many ethnic cultures. Types of shamanic magic include native American shamanism, voudoun, curanderia, psychopompos (those who assist the dying with their transition to the spiritual plane), spirit work, vision questing, and divination.
Darker forms of shamanism, associated with lower energies and older magical practices, include shapeshifting, demonology, and necromancy. Such practices are no longer needed in the higher energy vibrations.
// some of that is funny to read..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamanism
https://www.shamanism.com/
www.crystalinks.com/shamanism.html
https://www.shamanism.org/
www.williamjames.com/History/SHAMANS.htm
www.shamanicteachers.com/
www.takingcharge.csh.umn.edu/explore-healing-practices/shamanism
https://www.britannica.com/topic/shamanism
https://www.shamanlinks.net/
deoxy.org/shaman.htm
http://shamanschool.com/
http://norse-mythology.org/concepts/shamanism/
http://www.thekeep.org/~wombat/Stories/Pulp/Shaman
http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/shamans-using-sites-like-facebook-for-black-magic-says-malaysian-official/
http://www.brujonegrobrujeria.com/page/page/716736.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamanism
24 September 2016 22:55
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5. Mystics
The mystical tradition of magic relies heavily on meditation, intuition, and insight. Like the Druid, the mystic performs as a healer and teacher. Unlike the Druid, though, the Mystic is less inclined toward practical manifestations and seeks spiritual perfection through union with the Divine. Eastern traditions of magic, including Taoism, Hinduism, and Buddhism, are more inclined toward mystical practices and the intention to transcend physical boundaries to achieve spiritual union.
The mystic pulls inner meaning from his or her own equipment, and embodies it within themselves. Mystics tend to be the quietest and most introspective of the wizards, as they tap into and help create the vast repositories of information available to all of humanity.
Types of mystical magic include all forms of yoga, transcendental meditation, Taoism, Buddhism, empathy, clairvoyance, faith-healing, EST, and theosophy.
www.jewfaq.org/kabbalah.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysticism
http://artof4elements.com/entry/78/the-mystics
http://www.sacred-texts.com/myst/myst/myst10.htm
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-magic-and-mysticism
http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/REL275/REL275Definitions.html www.rossel.net/Mysticism.htm
http://ultraculture.org/blog/2015/02/06/5-secrets-female-master-mystics-magicians/
// www.fyldemystics.co.uk/ sellistel klubidel ka silma hoida,sest neid saab lla päris ja päris inimesi neis khtades
// sellistel bändidel tasub ka silma peal hoida, on olemas neid päris versioone mis ennast muuusk meedias avalikult jagab:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At_War_with_the_Mystics
// Selliseid volts spoirdi lehti ka tehakse, tegelike asjade selgituseks, avalikuks vahetuseks:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11672027
The mystical tradition of magic relies heavily on meditation, intuition, and insight. Like the Druid, the mystic performs as a healer and teacher. Unlike the Druid, though, the Mystic is less inclined toward practical manifestations and seeks spiritual perfection through union with the Divine. Eastern traditions of magic, including Taoism, Hinduism, and Buddhism, are more inclined toward mystical practices and the intention to transcend physical boundaries to achieve spiritual union.
The mystic pulls inner meaning from his or her own equipment, and embodies it within themselves. Mystics tend to be the quietest and most introspective of the wizards, as they tap into and help create the vast repositories of information available to all of humanity.
Types of mystical magic include all forms of yoga, transcendental meditation, Taoism, Buddhism, empathy, clairvoyance, faith-healing, EST, and theosophy.
www.jewfaq.org/kabbalah.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysticism
http://artof4elements.com/entry/78/the-mystics
http://www.sacred-texts.com/myst/myst/myst10.htm
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-magic-and-mysticism
http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/REL275/REL275Definitions.html www.rossel.net/Mysticism.htm
http://ultraculture.org/blog/2015/02/06/5-secrets-female-master-mystics-magicians/
// www.fyldemystics.co.uk/ sellistel klubidel ka silma hoida,sest neid saab lla päris ja päris inimesi neis khtades
// sellistel bändidel tasub ka silma peal hoida, on olemas neid päris versioone mis ennast muuusk meedias avalikult jagab:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At_War_with_the_Mystics
// Selliseid volts spoirdi lehti ka tehakse, tegelike asjade selgituseks, avalikuks vahetuseks:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11672027
http://www.jewfaq.org/kabbalah.htm
24 September 2016 22:51
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4. Druids
Although "Druid" is a term germane to the Celtic tradition of magic, the practice of Druidry can be embarked upon by anyone.
The Druid is most interested in working with the existing, natural energies of Earth and the Universe, rather than evoking new manifestations such as the Bard and Adept do. Druids are much less hung up on a particular process and are focused on obtaining end results and solutions to existing problems. Thus, the Druid is the most versatile of all the various wizard types.
Druids are predominantly schooled in practical magic. They employ magical herbalism on a regular basis, as well as work with magical symbols such as runes and oghams (pronounced OY-ams), carved on wood or stone. The oghams and runes function as alphabets as well, because druids' practice of magic is carried by the word; the essence of thought transmitted through language. Each one of the oghams represented a tree energy, which could be tapped upon by the druid by the use of focused concentration.
Druids love all true natural manifestations, including mineral, plant, and animal Life, and work diligently to embody the natural process within their own invocations. Druids pull energy from the outer world of form through their own equipment and embody it in their own internal structure, generally for healing themselves, others, or the natural world. Druids tend to be both healers and teachers, both in a practical (Earthy) sense or in a spiritual (Soul-oriented) sense.
Types of druidic magic include herbalism, runic studies, divination, geomancy, aromatherapy, and channeling. The proper use of modern-day "white witchcraft", Wicca, or other neo-pagan studies draw heavily from druidic tradition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid
www.santharia.com/magic/druidic_magic.htm
http://www.druidry.org/druid-way/other-paths/wicca-druidcraft/witch-druid
http://dwij.org/forum/cerritomni/r3_maya.html
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Druidic_Magic
Although "Druid" is a term germane to the Celtic tradition of magic, the practice of Druidry can be embarked upon by anyone.
The Druid is most interested in working with the existing, natural energies of Earth and the Universe, rather than evoking new manifestations such as the Bard and Adept do. Druids are much less hung up on a particular process and are focused on obtaining end results and solutions to existing problems. Thus, the Druid is the most versatile of all the various wizard types.
Druids are predominantly schooled in practical magic. They employ magical herbalism on a regular basis, as well as work with magical symbols such as runes and oghams (pronounced OY-ams), carved on wood or stone. The oghams and runes function as alphabets as well, because druids' practice of magic is carried by the word; the essence of thought transmitted through language. Each one of the oghams represented a tree energy, which could be tapped upon by the druid by the use of focused concentration.
Druids love all true natural manifestations, including mineral, plant, and animal Life, and work diligently to embody the natural process within their own invocations. Druids pull energy from the outer world of form through their own equipment and embody it in their own internal structure, generally for healing themselves, others, or the natural world. Druids tend to be both healers and teachers, both in a practical (Earthy) sense or in a spiritual (Soul-oriented) sense.
Types of druidic magic include herbalism, runic studies, divination, geomancy, aromatherapy, and channeling. The proper use of modern-day "white witchcraft", Wicca, or other neo-pagan studies draw heavily from druidic tradition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid
www.santharia.com/magic/druidic_magic.htm
http://www.druidry.org/druid-way/other-paths/wicca-druidcraft/witch-druid
http://dwij.org/forum/cerritomni/r3_maya.html
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Druidic_Magic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid
24 September 2016 22:35
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3. Bards
The bardic tradition is a long and varied one. The bardic practitioner seeks to evoke magical energy by use of creative techniques such as music, art, literary or dramatic expression, scientific exploration, dance, structural design, sexual expression, and education. In short, the Bard is most likely to work with "Muse-ic" energy, and the Bard is most closely associated with music and poetry. Bards pull energy from within themselves and relay it into outer manifestation.
Quite often, a bard will devote an entire lifetime to the study and mastery of one particular manifestation of their energy through a particular medium; for example, mastery of the piano, or mastery of the written word. Others, however, may go for a holistic approach and seek to learn as much as they can about as many forms of expression possible, rather than seeking mastery in one.
Johann Sebastian Bach was a master Bard who sought spiritual perfection through music. Both a musician and mathematician, he sought to channel Divine Energy through his compositions, comprised of mathematical and magical formulae embedded within the music itself.
Bardic magic is not relegated to any one form, as in other types of magical practice. Poetry, dance, artistry, and musical composition are all manifestations of bardic energy.
http://strangemagic.robertsongames.com/2012/03/bard-for-basic-d.html
https://realmsofadventure.net/rules/rules-of-magic/bardic-magic-spells/
Game explain
https://www.olwydd.org/guilds/bard/magic.php
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spellLists/bardSpells.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bard_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Bard
//Many games are trainings fro explaining real magic and wizard realmz , for millitary and alien trainings, etc
The bardic tradition is a long and varied one. The bardic practitioner seeks to evoke magical energy by use of creative techniques such as music, art, literary or dramatic expression, scientific exploration, dance, structural design, sexual expression, and education. In short, the Bard is most likely to work with "Muse-ic" energy, and the Bard is most closely associated with music and poetry. Bards pull energy from within themselves and relay it into outer manifestation.
Quite often, a bard will devote an entire lifetime to the study and mastery of one particular manifestation of their energy through a particular medium; for example, mastery of the piano, or mastery of the written word. Others, however, may go for a holistic approach and seek to learn as much as they can about as many forms of expression possible, rather than seeking mastery in one.
Johann Sebastian Bach was a master Bard who sought spiritual perfection through music. Both a musician and mathematician, he sought to channel Divine Energy through his compositions, comprised of mathematical and magical formulae embedded within the music itself.
Bardic magic is not relegated to any one form, as in other types of magical practice. Poetry, dance, artistry, and musical composition are all manifestations of bardic energy.
http://strangemagic.robertsongames.com/2012/03/bard-for-basic-d.html
https://realmsofadventure.net/rules/rules-of-magic/bardic-magic-spells/
Game explain
https://www.olwydd.org/guilds/bard/magic.php
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spellLists/bardSpells.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bard_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Bard
//Many games are trainings fro explaining real magic and wizard realmz , for millitary and alien trainings, etc
http://strangemagic.robertsongames.com/2012/03/bard-for-basic-d.html
24 September 2016 22:33
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2. Alchemists
Unlike the medieval alchemists, who sought the Philosopher's Stone to transmute base metals into gold, the modern Alchemist is concerned with refining the human Soul in order to achieve divine status. The goal of the modern day alchemist is to achieve ultimate wisdom and knowledge. Like the Adept, the Alchemist relies heavily on ceremonial order and ritual magic, but rather to draw Divine energy into the physical; that is to say, to bring God unto Man. Alchemists tend to be healers rather than teachers, although they do a fair amount of teaching as well. They also tend to be highly skilled craftspeople and can imbue amulets and charms with powerful healing energies to be used by others.
Types of alchemical magic today include modern psychology, gnosticism, qabbala, and metachemistry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemy
www.lloydlibrary.org/exhibits/alchemy/history.html
www.lloydlibrary.org/exhibits/alchemy/alchemists.html
http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/5406/what-is-the-difference-between-alchemy-sorcery-and-witchcraft
powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Alchemy
http://www.livescience.com/39314-alchemy.html
Unlike the medieval alchemists, who sought the Philosopher's Stone to transmute base metals into gold, the modern Alchemist is concerned with refining the human Soul in order to achieve divine status. The goal of the modern day alchemist is to achieve ultimate wisdom and knowledge. Like the Adept, the Alchemist relies heavily on ceremonial order and ritual magic, but rather to draw Divine energy into the physical; that is to say, to bring God unto Man. Alchemists tend to be healers rather than teachers, although they do a fair amount of teaching as well. They also tend to be highly skilled craftspeople and can imbue amulets and charms with powerful healing energies to be used by others.
Types of alchemical magic today include modern psychology, gnosticism, qabbala, and metachemistry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemy
www.lloydlibrary.org/exhibits/alchemy/history.html
www.lloydlibrary.org/exhibits/alchemy/alchemists.html
http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/5406/what-is-the-difference-between-alchemy-sorcery-and-witchcraft
powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Alchemy
http://www.livescience.com/39314-alchemy.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemy
24 September 2016 22:28
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Types of Wizards
There are many different branches and practices of wizardry. One may think of these as "career-paths", although the spiritual sense of "calling" may be a better description; one less confusing at least, lest one think of these practices as resulting in monetary remuneration.
1. Adepts
The Adept is the wizard that is most concerned with outward manifestation of magical energy. Most textbook wizards (the "pointed hat and wand" variety) tend to fall into this category, although it is not the predominant wizard type.
Adepts tend to work consciously with the manipulation of magic through the use of ritual and ceremonial evocation. Adepts pull energy from the outer world through their instruments, and relay it back to the outer world in their manifestations. They are concerned with the form and style of magical expression, and they glean their powers through focused study and active ritual meditation. Adepts actively seek to bring the unmanifest into physical expression, and are interested in the mechanical process by which the unmanifest may be evoked.
Adepts are rarely solitary practitioners and seek the protection of a ritual organization or lodge. Many such lodges exist to this day, including Freemasonry, Argenteum Astrum, and the Rosicrucians. Those who practice solitary adeptship tend to be drawn towards the darker manifestations of the energy.
Types of adept magic include theurgy, goetia, and qabbala.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adept
skulduggery.wikia.com/wiki/Adept
www.digital-brilliance.com/kab/tobias010.htm
http://www.sacred-texts.com/sro/wta/wta10.htm
http://adragon202.no-ip.org/Shadowrun/index.php/SR5:Magic:Adepts
There are many different branches and practices of wizardry. One may think of these as "career-paths", although the spiritual sense of "calling" may be a better description; one less confusing at least, lest one think of these practices as resulting in monetary remuneration.
1. Adepts
The Adept is the wizard that is most concerned with outward manifestation of magical energy. Most textbook wizards (the "pointed hat and wand" variety) tend to fall into this category, although it is not the predominant wizard type.
Adepts tend to work consciously with the manipulation of magic through the use of ritual and ceremonial evocation. Adepts pull energy from the outer world through their instruments, and relay it back to the outer world in their manifestations. They are concerned with the form and style of magical expression, and they glean their powers through focused study and active ritual meditation. Adepts actively seek to bring the unmanifest into physical expression, and are interested in the mechanical process by which the unmanifest may be evoked.
Adepts are rarely solitary practitioners and seek the protection of a ritual organization or lodge. Many such lodges exist to this day, including Freemasonry, Argenteum Astrum, and the Rosicrucians. Those who practice solitary adeptship tend to be drawn towards the darker manifestations of the energy.
Types of adept magic include theurgy, goetia, and qabbala.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adept
skulduggery.wikia.com/wiki/Adept
www.digital-brilliance.com/kab/tobias010.htm
http://www.sacred-texts.com/sro/wta/wta10.htm
http://adragon202.no-ip.org/Shadowrun/index.php/SR5:Magic:Adepts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adept
24 September 2016 22:26
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(I have my of version of explenation.. buttheirs is good)
Before embarking on a detailed discussion of the practice of wizardry, it is best to define, as accurately as possible, what it means to be a wizard.
A wizard is a person who, through the intentional practice of true magic, seeks to make manifest the Divine Plan for Humanity on earth. This Divine Plan is simply that every human being has the potential for becoming a conscious co-creator of his or her own reality, in allegiance with the Divine Creator, in whatever aspect the person may envision through the right application of Free Will. In doing so, the wizard seeks to become a Conscious Soul Incarnate; that is, to manifest the energies of his or her soul through the mental, astral, and physical bodies and render conscious creation in his or her world.
The word "wizard" simply meant "wise one" in olden times. The root word can be traced through the Indo-Aryan word "Vizier" and the Arabic "Waz-ir", who were at one time valued advisors to those who ruled, taking the role of the now modern-day prime minister of a nation. In the Nordic tradition, the word for wizard was "Vitki", again, meaning, "the wise one." The words "advise" and "advice", as well as the prefix "vice" in "vice-president" or "viceroy" derive from the same root as does "wizard." The ancient roots of all these words meant "burden-bearer," "carrier," or "he who assists." Throughout history, the role of the wizard was as an ancillary; a power behind the throne. In the game of chess, the Persians still refer to the queen piece as "Wazir".
http://www.wizardrealm.com/wizards/types.html
Before embarking on a detailed discussion of the practice of wizardry, it is best to define, as accurately as possible, what it means to be a wizard.
A wizard is a person who, through the intentional practice of true magic, seeks to make manifest the Divine Plan for Humanity on earth. This Divine Plan is simply that every human being has the potential for becoming a conscious co-creator of his or her own reality, in allegiance with the Divine Creator, in whatever aspect the person may envision through the right application of Free Will. In doing so, the wizard seeks to become a Conscious Soul Incarnate; that is, to manifest the energies of his or her soul through the mental, astral, and physical bodies and render conscious creation in his or her world.
The word "wizard" simply meant "wise one" in olden times. The root word can be traced through the Indo-Aryan word "Vizier" and the Arabic "Waz-ir", who were at one time valued advisors to those who ruled, taking the role of the now modern-day prime minister of a nation. In the Nordic tradition, the word for wizard was "Vitki", again, meaning, "the wise one." The words "advise" and "advice", as well as the prefix "vice" in "vice-president" or "viceroy" derive from the same root as does "wizard." The ancient roots of all these words meant "burden-bearer," "carrier," or "he who assists." Throughout history, the role of the wizard was as an ancillary; a power behind the throne. In the game of chess, the Persians still refer to the queen piece as "Wazir".
http://www.wizardrealm.com/wizards/types.html
http://www.wizardrealm.com/wizards/types.html
24 September 2016 22:22
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Forget about glamour. There is little glamorous about what we wizards practice. Despite what is depicted in fantasy literature and role-playing games, we who practice true magic do not cast nth-level fireballs or radiant "death clouds" at our enemies. If you are seeking wizardry for that reason, I suggest you either look into your local hobby shops, or do a Google search on how to safely effect certain fiery special effects using household products. We are predominantly teachers and healers, and do not go in for the frills or the "Wow" effect.
I do not purport to know everything there is to know about the practice of wizardry. This site's purpose is to gather together as much reference information as can be found on actual wizardry and to present it in an easy-to-find form. The other purpose is to provide an outlet for my own insights about wizardry and the practice of true magic.
Nor is this site about a detailed study of magic. Wizard-craft is far too vast a continent to even begin scratching the surface of how to go about its practice. On the references page, you may find several books that can get you started into the practice of true magic.
http://www.skylighter.com/fireworks/how-to-make/cremora-fireballs.asp
I do not purport to know everything there is to know about the practice of wizardry. This site's purpose is to gather together as much reference information as can be found on actual wizardry and to present it in an easy-to-find form. The other purpose is to provide an outlet for my own insights about wizardry and the practice of true magic.
Nor is this site about a detailed study of magic. Wizard-craft is far too vast a continent to even begin scratching the surface of how to go about its practice. On the references page, you may find several books that can get you started into the practice of true magic.
http://www.skylighter.com/fireworks/how-to-make/cremora-fireballs.asp
http://www.skylighter.com/fireworks/how-to-make/cremora-fireballs.asp
24 September 2016 22:21
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Waite, Arthur Edward. A master wizard and integral figure of the Golden Dawn, Waite devised an easily-interpretable Tarot deck that is the most popular deck in use even today. Waite was a numerologist and mathematician, steeped in Esoteric Lore
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._E._Waite
http://www.controverscial.com/Arthur%20Edward%20Waite.htm
http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/A.E._Waite
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._E._Waite
http://www.controverscial.com/Arthur%20Edward%20Waite.htm
http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/A.E._Waite
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._E._Waite
24 September 2016 22:13
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Steiner, Rudolf. (1861-1925). The "Wizard of Education," Rudolf Steiner was a master wizard involved heavily in the teaching of practical magic to people of all ages. His teachings helped to found a set of schools and colleges that are now worldwide. Steiner was the founder of the philosophical study of Anthroposophy, or the magic of Spiritual Love; thus recognizing that true magic comes only from the Creative Love Source.
http://web.archive.org/web/20071117225353/http://www.steinercollege.edu/rs.html
http://www.waldorfanswers.com/RudolfSteiner.htm
http://www.rudolfsteinerweb.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Steiner
http://web.archive.org/web/20071117225353/http://www.steinercollege.edu/rs.html
http://www.waldorfanswers.com/RudolfSteiner.htm
http://www.rudolfsteinerweb.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Steiner
http://web.archive.org/web/20071117225353/http://www.steinercollege.edu/rs.html
24 September 2016 22:03
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Regardie, Dr. Francis Israel. (1907-1985) The last living wizard of the Golden Dawn, Israel Regardie was a healer, ceremonial magician, alchemist, and qabalist. Originally associated with A. Crowley, Regardie later broke with Crowley and joined the Golden Dawn under the tutelage and assistance of Dion Fortune. It was Regardie who, in 1937, published the rituals and teachings of the Golden Dawn, making them accessible for the first time to the rest of Humanity. Regardie later incorporated Jungian thought and Roscicrucian philosophy into his works. It is to his efforts that we owe much of the mass understanding and acceptance of magical working to this day.
www.goldendawnpedia.com/HistoryPages/Bios/IsraelRegardie.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/20010302124337/http://www.hermeticgoldendawn.org/regardie.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Regardie
www.goldendawnpedia.com/HistoryPages/Bios/IsraelRegardie.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/20010302124337/http://www.hermeticgoldendawn.org/regardie.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Regardie
24 September 2016 22:00
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Mathers, S. L. MacGregor. (1854 - 1918) One of the founding "fathers" of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, MacGregor Mathers was a highly eclectic, master adept responsible for many of the inroads made by the society. Among other things, Mathers first translated into English the great qabalistic work "Kaballah Denutada", or the Kaballah Unveiled, by Rosenroth. He also brought Enochian Magic into modern magical practice, and was responsible for influencing Tarot studies within the order; for which knowledge we owe him much to this day.
http://www.golden-dawn.org/biomathers.html
www.golden-dawn.org/truth_mathers.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Liddell_MacGregor_Mathers
http://www.golden-dawn.org/biomathers.html
www.golden-dawn.org/truth_mathers.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Liddell_MacGregor_Mathers
http://www.golden-dawn.org/biomathers.html
24 September 2016 21:57
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Levi, Eliphas. (1810-1875) A master adept and qaballist of the 19th century, Eliphas Levi wrote many books upon ceremonial magic, Tarot, and qaballa that later influenced many of the wizards involved in the Golden Dawn, including MacGregor Mathers, Arthur Edward Waite, Aleister Crowley, and Wynn Westcott. Much is owed to him in bringing to print many of the "forgotten" ancient wisdom teachings.
http://web.archive.org/web/20010208213350/http://bc-freemasonry.com/biography/esoterica/levi_e/levi_e.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliphas_Levi
http://web.archive.org/web/20010208213350/http://bc-freemasonry.com/biography/esoterica/levi_e/levi_e.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliphas_Levi
24 September 2016 21:56
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Hall, Manly Palmer. One of the great American wizards, Manly Hall was influential in the enlightenment of many who sought the path of wisdom in the 20th century. M. P. Hall wrote many works upon wizardry, spirituality, qabalism, esoteric astrology, and Ascension. He is also responsible for starting the Psychical Research Society (PRS), which exists today in Los Angeles, CA.
http://web.archive.org/web/20020614093933/http://www.newage.com.au/library/palmer.hall.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manly_P._Hall
http://web.archive.org/web/20020614093933/http://www.newage.com.au/library/palmer.hall.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manly_P._Hall
http://web.archive.org/web/20020614093933/http://www.newage.com.au/library/palmer.hall.html
24 September 2016 21:55
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Fortune, Dion. (1890-1946) Christened as Violet Mary Firth, the "High Priestess" of the Golden Dawn, Dion Fortune (her name taken from her family's crest motto 'Deo, non Fortuna') was a master wizard steeped in ceremonial magic, qaballah, and ancient Egyptian magical tradition. A prolific writer of both esoteric fiction and non-fiction, her fictional works contained just as much necessary arcane information as did her non-fictional works. Noted works by her are "The Goat-Foot God," "The Sea Priestess," "The Secrets of Dr. Taverner," "Psychic Self-Defense," "Mystic Qabala," and "The Magical Battle of Britain." The last work refers to her participation in the esoteric war waged during World War II which, directed at Nazi Germany, may have been the cause for Hitler's abandoning his plans to fully invade England.
http://web.archive.org/web/20020203232344/http://www.spiraltree.demon.co.uk/dionfort/dion.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dion_Fortune
http://www.servantsofthelight.org/about-sol/biographies/dion-fortune/
http://web.archive.org/web/20020203232344/http://www.spiraltree.demon.co.uk/dionfort/dion.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dion_Fortune
http://www.servantsofthelight.org/about-sol/biographies/dion-fortune/
http://web.archive.org/web/20020203232344/http://www.spiraltree.demon.co.uk/dionfort/dion.htm
24 September 2016 21:53
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Crowley, Aleister (1875 -1947) The wizard of "shock effect," Aleister Crowley had a reputation as an evil adept although this was actually far from the truth. Like the pop star Madonna, Crowley relied upon his extremist and shocking behaviors to "get the point across" to the rest of Humanity. Crowley proposed the Thelemic philosophy, whose sole motto was "Do what thou will shall be the Whole of the Law," emphasizing the need to exercise one's free will in all things, especially the creative process.
http://www.crl.com/~thelema/crowley.html
http://www.crl.com/~thelema/crowley.html
http://www.crl.com/~thelema/crowley.html
24 September 2016 21:52
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Cedercrans, Lucille. In 1957, Lucille Cedercrans provided the channeled information for the course of study known as "Nature of the Soul," a streamlined, easily followed method of meditation using Western and Eastern though synthesis. Nature of the Soul's purpose is to help humanity create a Divine Alignment through the power of their Soul and render conscious creation through a process of ceremonial magic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucille_Cedercrans
http://www.wisdomimpressions.com/lucille.html
Lucille Cedercrans traveled extensively, developing and moving from one group center to another in response to an inner call. She would throw her things into suitcases, ask someone to send on her papers, and rush off. In the process, many of her personal records were scattered or lost. This mobility and continual movement was, in part, by design. Lucille’s intent was not to form an organization and have her work become an institution. Instead, the effort was to be carried on by those who embodied the work by practice and whose only authority was the soul.
Her prime opus, The Nature of The Soul, instructs us to focus on the effect of the work, and not its source. Taking this to heart and since we know very little about her personally, the following is a brief biography of that work, covering a period of about twelve years, from 1951 through 1963.
We have divided the work of Lucille Cedercrans into three sections or categories:
A. Training materials in the form of lessons and projections
B. Establishment of groups trained in utilizing these materials
C. Beginning of the manifestation of the Synthetic Ashram
We will take these one by one in order to clearly understand the breadth of this work.
A. TRAINING MATERIALS:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucille_Cedercrans
http://www.wisdomimpressions.com/lucille.html
Lucille Cedercrans traveled extensively, developing and moving from one group center to another in response to an inner call. She would throw her things into suitcases, ask someone to send on her papers, and rush off. In the process, many of her personal records were scattered or lost. This mobility and continual movement was, in part, by design. Lucille’s intent was not to form an organization and have her work become an institution. Instead, the effort was to be carried on by those who embodied the work by practice and whose only authority was the soul.
Her prime opus, The Nature of The Soul, instructs us to focus on the effect of the work, and not its source. Taking this to heart and since we know very little about her personally, the following is a brief biography of that work, covering a period of about twelve years, from 1951 through 1963.
We have divided the work of Lucille Cedercrans into three sections or categories:
A. Training materials in the form of lessons and projections
B. Establishment of groups trained in utilizing these materials
C. Beginning of the manifestation of the Synthetic Ashram
We will take these one by one in order to clearly understand the breadth of this work.
A. TRAINING MATERIALS:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucille_Cedercrans
24 September 2016 21:51
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Cayce, Edgar (1877-1945). An American wizard, Edgar Cayce was one of the most powerful mages in incarnation at the time. Shy and retiring, somewhat ashamed of his power (fighting against a heavily-imposed Christian dogma during his childhood), Cayce provided over 14,000 trance-channeled psychic "readings" for people, healing, and world prophecy during his lifetime. Cayce was the first to reintroduce people to Atlantean history through his channelings, and made certain predictions regarding the "End Times" scenario.
http://www.baar.com/cayceweb.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_for_Research_and_Enlightenment
http://www.baar.com/cayceweb.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_for_Research_and_Enlightenment
http://www.baar.com/cayceweb.htm
24 September 2016 21:50
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Blavatsky, Helena P.. (1831-1891). Founder of the Theosophical movement, reintroduced the ideas of karma and reincarnation to the West, first to postulate the existence of the 7 ray energies; creator of the basis of modern esoteric thought with her book "The Secret Doctrine".
http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/theos/hpb-selc.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helena_Blavatsky
www.blavatsky.net
www.magickalmind.com/blavatsky.htm
http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/theos/hpb-selc.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helena_Blavatsky
www.blavatsky.net
www.magickalmind.com/blavatsky.htm
http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/theos/hpb-selc.htm
24 September 2016 21:49
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Bailey, Alice A. (1880-1949). The "Wizard of the 7 Rays;" Alice Bailey was the channeller for the Master Djwhal Khul, otherwise known as "The Tibetan," Lord of the 2nd Ray. Her extensive channeled works include a full treatise on the 7 Ray energies of creation, the Initiations, and Esoteric Psychology. Alice Bailey also channeled "The Great Invocation," one of the most powerful spiritual invocations available to us today.
http://web.archive.org/web/20011024225454/http://209.207.239.212/bk/autobiography/toc.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Bailey
https://www.lucistrust.org/books/alice_bailey_books
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djwal_Khul
http://web.archive.org/web/20011024225454/http://209.207.239.212/bk/autobiography/toc.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Bailey
https://www.lucistrust.org/books/alice_bailey_books
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djwal_Khul
http://web.archive.org/web/20011024225454/http://209.207.239.212/bk/autobiography/toc.html
24 September 2016 21:49
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It was the last half of the 19th century, however, that saw the rise of the great wizard lodges and ashrams; the most noted being the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. From this order came some of the most influential wizards of the late 19th and early 20th centuries; including S.L. MacGregor Mathers, who was one of the founders of the lodge, Arthur Edward Waite, designer of the most widely-used Tarot deck to this day, Israel Regardie, a master wizard within the lodge and a prolific writer of ritual magic, Dion Fortune, one of the most prolific writers of both fictional and non-fictional wizardry, Aleister Crowley, who through his extremist views and shocking behaviors exhorted above all the expression of one's free will in creation, and William Butler Yeats, a master Druid and Ireland's greatest poet and dramatist of his time. It was a fascinating time, but a turbulent and sad one as well.
Because of the forces wrought by the Industrial Revolution, the "door where Evil dwells" was wrenched open (believed to be the door sealed by Solomon many centuries ago, wherein dwelt the demons Gog and Magog, along with a host of other demonic entities.) Through this door into the world of affairs poured such evil that we as conscious beings were powerless at first to stop it. Because of this occurrence, during the first half of the 20th century, the world was rocked with two violent wars; twin conflicts, opposite sides of a massive hurricane on the astral and mental planes. Exoterically, these wars were known as the Great War (later, World War I), and World War II; the first time conflict had ever been seen on a global scale since the fall of Atlantis and Lemuria. Esoterically, they became known as the Wars to close the door where Evil dwells. Demons entered material flesh, taking on personality aspects as human monsters; manifesting as such twisted forms as Himmler, Goebbels, Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Nikolai Lenin, and Josef Stalin. Millions of people fell in the bloodshed wrought by this carnage; an estimated 6 million Jewish people alone perished in the horrific Holocaust. Even the United States had blood on its hands in the torture of the Japanese in the American prison camps, and the detonation of the atomic bomb over the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It was the last act, the detonation of the atom, that finally closed the door where Evil dwells; but was unable to seal it the way Solomon had done so long ago.
After the horrors that had been wrought during the time of tribulation, it became clear to the wizards and to the portion of Humanity that were acting in accordance with the Divine Plan, that all was but lost for the World. Long before, the wizard Nostradamus had predicted many dire consequences for "The End Times," believed to be near the end of the 20th century. Others, such as the Hopi Indians, Edgar Cayce, the Mayan Calendar, the Norse Eddas, and the chapter of Revelations in the Bible had also predicted the end of the known world. Even in the best-case scenario, the world would continue but in a completely different sphere. Authors such as Ayn Rand, George Orwell, and Rachel Carson outpictured post-apocalyptic societies that at their very best were bleak and at their worst, horrific. In the 1950's and 1960's, children learned to "duck and cover" from the threat of nuclear holocaust, and a generation of humanity grew up in the shadow of the Bomb, with the crypt of the bomb shelter in their back yards and imminent death a mere button's push away.
There was much fear; indeed, the 20th century could be called the "century of anxiety." It was a turbulent century, for it was the era in which the "end time" was supposed to occur. The 20th century was the "clearing house" for the world karma from Atlantis to the present time. Those in incarnation during this time were tested greatly, and were brave in their battle.
After World War II, the population of Earth literally exploded. Knowing full well that the End Time was approaching, all the souls that had participated in the great Earth experiment began to re-enter the playing field, literally, to see the great End of All Things. After the final cleanup, everyone was to return home, to their sphere of origin.
The wizards and others of like inclination did not give up, though. Believing in the ultimate power of free will and the ability to manifest conscious creation, wizards continued to work with raising the energies of the Earth and of Humanity, and to inspire others as well.
Beyond all hopes, it worked.
In a miracle, at the 11th hour of the great Earth experiment, humanity within the space of 50 years raised its vibration, and the vibration of Planet Earth, to the point where the termination of Earth was negated, declared null and void by the Hierarchy.
It is to these wizards that we owe our existence and the continued existence of the Earth today. In the year 1997, certain parts of the world were to have been flowing with blood from the wars and tribulations prophesied. These parts of the world are now working to solve pollution problems and purify water resources. Even in the turbulence of our society, a greater Pattern is emerging from the chaos. From the chaos, Man as Wizard is wresting conscious creation.
http://golden-dawn.org/
Because of the forces wrought by the Industrial Revolution, the "door where Evil dwells" was wrenched open (believed to be the door sealed by Solomon many centuries ago, wherein dwelt the demons Gog and Magog, along with a host of other demonic entities.) Through this door into the world of affairs poured such evil that we as conscious beings were powerless at first to stop it. Because of this occurrence, during the first half of the 20th century, the world was rocked with two violent wars; twin conflicts, opposite sides of a massive hurricane on the astral and mental planes. Exoterically, these wars were known as the Great War (later, World War I), and World War II; the first time conflict had ever been seen on a global scale since the fall of Atlantis and Lemuria. Esoterically, they became known as the Wars to close the door where Evil dwells. Demons entered material flesh, taking on personality aspects as human monsters; manifesting as such twisted forms as Himmler, Goebbels, Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Nikolai Lenin, and Josef Stalin. Millions of people fell in the bloodshed wrought by this carnage; an estimated 6 million Jewish people alone perished in the horrific Holocaust. Even the United States had blood on its hands in the torture of the Japanese in the American prison camps, and the detonation of the atomic bomb over the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It was the last act, the detonation of the atom, that finally closed the door where Evil dwells; but was unable to seal it the way Solomon had done so long ago.
After the horrors that had been wrought during the time of tribulation, it became clear to the wizards and to the portion of Humanity that were acting in accordance with the Divine Plan, that all was but lost for the World. Long before, the wizard Nostradamus had predicted many dire consequences for "The End Times," believed to be near the end of the 20th century. Others, such as the Hopi Indians, Edgar Cayce, the Mayan Calendar, the Norse Eddas, and the chapter of Revelations in the Bible had also predicted the end of the known world. Even in the best-case scenario, the world would continue but in a completely different sphere. Authors such as Ayn Rand, George Orwell, and Rachel Carson outpictured post-apocalyptic societies that at their very best were bleak and at their worst, horrific. In the 1950's and 1960's, children learned to "duck and cover" from the threat of nuclear holocaust, and a generation of humanity grew up in the shadow of the Bomb, with the crypt of the bomb shelter in their back yards and imminent death a mere button's push away.
There was much fear; indeed, the 20th century could be called the "century of anxiety." It was a turbulent century, for it was the era in which the "end time" was supposed to occur. The 20th century was the "clearing house" for the world karma from Atlantis to the present time. Those in incarnation during this time were tested greatly, and were brave in their battle.
After World War II, the population of Earth literally exploded. Knowing full well that the End Time was approaching, all the souls that had participated in the great Earth experiment began to re-enter the playing field, literally, to see the great End of All Things. After the final cleanup, everyone was to return home, to their sphere of origin.
The wizards and others of like inclination did not give up, though. Believing in the ultimate power of free will and the ability to manifest conscious creation, wizards continued to work with raising the energies of the Earth and of Humanity, and to inspire others as well.
Beyond all hopes, it worked.
In a miracle, at the 11th hour of the great Earth experiment, humanity within the space of 50 years raised its vibration, and the vibration of Planet Earth, to the point where the termination of Earth was negated, declared null and void by the Hierarchy.
It is to these wizards that we owe our existence and the continued existence of the Earth today. In the year 1997, certain parts of the world were to have been flowing with blood from the wars and tribulations prophesied. These parts of the world are now working to solve pollution problems and purify water resources. Even in the turbulence of our society, a greater Pattern is emerging from the chaos. From the chaos, Man as Wizard is wresting conscious creation.
http://golden-dawn.org/
http://golden-dawn.org/
24 September 2016 21:48
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"My candle burns at both ends;
It will not last the night,
But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends,
It gives a lovely light."
--EDNA ST. VINCENT MILLAY--
"Never have so many owed so much to so few."
--SIR WILLIAM CHURCHILL--
"From the Center which we call the race of Man,
Let the Plan of Love and Light work out,
And may it seal the Door where Evil Dwells."
--from THE GREAT INVOCATION.--
The latter half of the 18th century saw an gradual increase in overt wizard activity, coinciding with the discovery of the planet Uranus. Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe, author of the epic poem "Faust" (based upon Marlowe's "Dr. Faustus"), which was later made into a grand opera, actually helped pave the way for wizards to be accepted back as integral parts of society. For all of its emphasis upon demonology and dire fate, "Faust" remains as a metaphor for the ultimate responsibility for one's creations and desires, and shows the consequences of appropriating energy outside of the Divine Plan, for the separative will. The agonies suffered by Faust helped turn people's compassion back toward the wizard, which had been stirred earlier by Shakespeare's Prospero in "The Tempest." Mary Shelley was later to address this issue further in her gothic masterpiece "Frankenstein," on the aspect of creation run amuck. (One wonders if Madam Shelley was remembering the events of Atlantis?)
Because of these and other wizard tales, the 19th century saw a great uprise in wizardry. Part of the interest lay in the Industrial Revolution and the newfangled machines which began popping up from the hands of inventors. The romantic era of the 1800's gave way to exploratory fiction; we experienced magic at the hands of Nathaniel Hawthorne in "Dr. Heiddeiger's Experiment" and "The House of the Seven Gables," we journeyed to the Center of the Earth with Jules Verne, and time-travelled with H. G. Welles. The 19th century was truly a time of exploration of the mind; the first that had truly occurred since
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It will not last the night,
But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends,
It gives a lovely light."
--EDNA ST. VINCENT MILLAY--
"Never have so many owed so much to so few."
--SIR WILLIAM CHURCHILL--
"From the Center which we call the race of Man,
Let the Plan of Love and Light work out,
And may it seal the Door where Evil Dwells."
--from THE GREAT INVOCATION.--
The latter half of the 18th century saw an gradual increase in overt wizard activity, coinciding with the discovery of the planet Uranus. Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe, author of the epic poem "Faust" (based upon Marlowe's "Dr. Faustus"), which was later made into a grand opera, actually helped pave the way for wizards to be accepted back as integral parts of society. For all of its emphasis upon demonology and dire fate, "Faust" remains as a metaphor for the ultimate responsibility for one's creations and desires, and shows the consequences of appropriating energy outside of the Divine Plan, for the separative will. The agonies suffered by Faust helped turn people's compassion back toward the wizard, which had been stirred earlier by Shakespeare's Prospero in "The Tempest." Mary Shelley was later to address this issue further in her gothic masterpiece "Frankenstein," on the aspect of creation run amuck. (One wonders if Madam Shelley was remembering the events of Atlantis?)
Because of these and other wizard tales, the 19th century saw a great uprise in wizardry. Part of the interest lay in the Industrial Revolution and the newfangled machines which began popping up from the hands of inventors. The romantic era of the 1800's gave way to exploratory fiction; we experienced magic at the hands of Nathaniel Hawthorne in "Dr. Heiddeiger's Experiment" and "The House of the Seven Gables," we journeyed to the Center of the Earth with Jules Verne, and time-travelled with H. G. Welles. The 19th century was truly a time of exploration of the mind; the first that had truly occurred since
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24 September 2016 21:47
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Wizards of the Orient
In the lands of the middle and far east, magic and religion were synonymous. Only in the western world have we bifurcated the two and set them against each other.
Mages of Arabia and Persia
Much has been written, both in history and fantasy, about men (and women) of the middle eastern worlds who practiced magic. Even in our modern era, when we think of an Arabian mage, we conjure images of a turbaned, bejeweled and robed man seated on a flying carpet, emanating power, with djinni at his command. Much of our imagery comes from "The 1001 Arabian Nights," whose stories dealt much with magic and mystery of the early Middle East.
In reality, the wizards (Magi) of Arabia and Persia were predominantly astronomers, astrologers, and mathematicians. It is to them that we owe the knowledge of nothingness (Sifr), from which we get the concept of Cipher, or zero. All modern mathematics is built around the concept of zero, or the starting point. We owe also the mathematical branch of problem-solving, known as algebra (Al-Jabr), to these wise men of old. The word Al-Jabr literally means both "restoration" and "reunion", and the roots of this mathematical practice can be traced back to the wizards of ancient Babylon.
Gaspar, Melchior, and Balthazar
More has been written about these Persian astrologers than any others, having been identified in the Bible as the "three wise men from the east" who pay homage to the infant Jesus in Bethlehem, bearing gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh. They are now thought to be me most likely Zoroastrian priests, rather than kings, and to have come from the Persian city of Saba.
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In the lands of the middle and far east, magic and religion were synonymous. Only in the western world have we bifurcated the two and set them against each other.
Mages of Arabia and Persia
Much has been written, both in history and fantasy, about men (and women) of the middle eastern worlds who practiced magic. Even in our modern era, when we think of an Arabian mage, we conjure images of a turbaned, bejeweled and robed man seated on a flying carpet, emanating power, with djinni at his command. Much of our imagery comes from "The 1001 Arabian Nights," whose stories dealt much with magic and mystery of the early Middle East.
In reality, the wizards (Magi) of Arabia and Persia were predominantly astronomers, astrologers, and mathematicians. It is to them that we owe the knowledge of nothingness (Sifr), from which we get the concept of Cipher, or zero. All modern mathematics is built around the concept of zero, or the starting point. We owe also the mathematical branch of problem-solving, known as algebra (Al-Jabr), to these wise men of old. The word Al-Jabr literally means both "restoration" and "reunion", and the roots of this mathematical practice can be traced back to the wizards of ancient Babylon.
Gaspar, Melchior, and Balthazar
More has been written about these Persian astrologers than any others, having been identified in the Bible as the "three wise men from the east" who pay homage to the infant Jesus in Bethlehem, bearing gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh. They are now thought to be me most likely Zoroastrian priests, rather than kings, and to have come from the Persian city of Saba.
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24 September 2016 21:46
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Even in ancient times the Celtic druids knew of the coming of Yesu (Jesus). A reading from the ancient Celtic Triads is:
The Lord our God is one.
Lift up your heads, O ye gates, and be
ye lift up, ye everlasting doors, and the
King of Glory shall come in.
Who is the King of Glory? The Lord Yesu;
He is the King of Glory.
How the Druidic wizards knew the consecrated name so long beforehand (predating Jesus' appearance on earth by more than 500 years) is indeed a mystery in itself. The name "Yesu" was incorporated in the Druidic Trinity as the Godhead. In Britain the name Jesus never assumed its Greek or Latin form. It was always the pure Celtic "Yesu;" it never changed.
With the Christianization of Northern Europe, gradually the druidic tradition died out as an exoteric religious force. Eventually realizing that violent action was not enough to overcome the ancient traditions in England, Ireland, and mainland Germany and Scandinavia, Christianity resorted to incorporating many of the druidic rites and festivals into its own frame of references. Thus the Druidic fertility ritual of Eostre became the Christian ritual of rebirth and renewal of Easter, and the rebirth of the God at the Winter solstice became the Christian celebration of Jesus' birth. Imbolc became Candlemas, Samhain became All Hallows (and thusly Hallowe'en), and Midsummer and Lammas were all but forgotten. Esotericists and wizards didn't forget the old ways, though, and they were kept alive through their secret studies and traditions, quietly passing them down from father to son, mother to daughter, grandparent to grandchild, becoming as much a part of their reality as the new structure that had been forcibly superimposed on them.
The Lord our God is one.
Lift up your heads, O ye gates, and be
ye lift up, ye everlasting doors, and the
King of Glory shall come in.
Who is the King of Glory? The Lord Yesu;
He is the King of Glory.
How the Druidic wizards knew the consecrated name so long beforehand (predating Jesus' appearance on earth by more than 500 years) is indeed a mystery in itself. The name "Yesu" was incorporated in the Druidic Trinity as the Godhead. In Britain the name Jesus never assumed its Greek or Latin form. It was always the pure Celtic "Yesu;" it never changed.
With the Christianization of Northern Europe, gradually the druidic tradition died out as an exoteric religious force. Eventually realizing that violent action was not enough to overcome the ancient traditions in England, Ireland, and mainland Germany and Scandinavia, Christianity resorted to incorporating many of the druidic rites and festivals into its own frame of references. Thus the Druidic fertility ritual of Eostre became the Christian ritual of rebirth and renewal of Easter, and the rebirth of the God at the Winter solstice became the Christian celebration of Jesus' birth. Imbolc became Candlemas, Samhain became All Hallows (and thusly Hallowe'en), and Midsummer and Lammas were all but forgotten. Esotericists and wizards didn't forget the old ways, though, and they were kept alive through their secret studies and traditions, quietly passing them down from father to son, mother to daughter, grandparent to grandchild, becoming as much a part of their reality as the new structure that had been forcibly superimposed on them.
24 September 2016 21:45
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Believing (correctly) that the Earth had meridians of power on its surface called "ley lines" or dragon currents, the Druids used massive standing stones known as dolmans (flat table rocks) and menhirs (vertical stones) embedded in the earth as points of energy concentration. This is not unlike the process of acupuncture used for ridding the human body of disease and ailment.
Druids were also schooled in practical magic. They employed magical herbalism on a regular basis, as well as work with magical symbols such as runes and oghams (pronounced OY-ams), carved on wood or stone. The oghams and runes functioned as alphabets as well, because the druids believed that the true essence of magic was carried by the word; the essence of thought transmitted through language. Each one of the oghams represented a tree energy, which could be tapped upon by the druid by the use of focussed concentration.
A mistaken belief is that the druids regularly practiced human sacrifice, preying upon the weak, women, and children. This unfortunate fable was spread during the Christianization of Europe when the missionaries sought to demonize any existing religions so that their own, Christianity, would have no rivals. During this process, the sacred dolmans and menhirs were defiled, mutilated, and often destroyed, the ancient gods turned into demons of horrific countenance and deed, and the druids and bards were killed as emissaries of Satan, often employing the Roman method of crucifixion. The following is an excerpt from William Butler Yeats' tragic and horrifying recounting of the crucifixion of one of these wizards: "The Crucifixion of the Outcast (1898)." The "outcast," a bardic wizard, is being crucified for having dared to complain about the conditions of the guest quarters at the local monastery to the abbot.
... A half-mile on the way he asked them to stop and see him juggle for them; for he knew, he said, all the tricks of Aengus and Subtlehearted. The old monks were for pressing on, but the young monks would see him: so he did many wonders for them, even to the drawing of live frogs out of his ears. But after awhile they turned on him, and said his tricks were dull and a little unholy, and set the cross on his shoulders again. Another half-mile on the way, and he asked them to stop and hear him jest for them, for he knew, he said, all the jests of Conan the Bald, upon whose back a sheep's wool grew. And the young monks, when they had heard his merry tales, again bade him to take up his cross, for it ill became them to listen to such follies. Another half-mile on the way, he asked them to stop and hear him sing the story of white-breasted Dierdre, and how she endured many sorrows and how the sons of Usna died to serve her. And the young monks were mad to hear him, but when he ended they grew angry, and beat him for waking forgotten longings in their hearts. So they set the cross on his back, and hurried him up the hill . . .
. . . So then they went away, but the beggars stayed on, sitting round the cross. But when the sun was sinking, they also got up to go, for the air was getting chilly. And as soon as they had gone a little way, the wolves, who had been showing themselves on the edge of a neighboring coppice, came nearer, and the birds wheeled closer and closer. "Stay, outcasts, yet a little while," the crucified one called in a weak voice to the beggars, "and keep the birds and beasts from me." But the beggars were angry that he had called them outcasts, so they threw stones and mud at him, and one that had a child held it up before his eyes and said that he was its father, and cursed him, and thereupon they left him. Then the wolves gathered at the foot of the cross, and the birds flew lower and lower. And presently the birds lighted all at once upon his head and arms and shoulders and began to peck at him, and the wolves began to eat his feet. "Outcasts," he moaned, "have you all turned against the outcast?"
The Celtic and Pictish warriors often sacrificed their captured enemies to their gods in gratitude of the victory. The warrior's heads would be preserved and mounted on pikes, since the Celts believed that the head was the seat of wisdom. Sacrifice was also done as a mercy to the warriors; the Celts reckoned that it was far worse to serve in slavery than to die quickly and go to the Gods to be reborn again. However, the only time the druids (wizards) ever employed human blood ritual was during the ritual of the sacrifice of the Sacred King. During this time, the tribal ruler or a representative of his house was sacrificed and the blood was allowed to flow onto the earth to rejuvenate it or give life back to it. Not only practiced among the Celts and Britons, but also among the Norse and Teutonic tribes, this sacrifice was held when A) the head of the ruling house was deemed to be ineffective, sterile, or having "lost his luck (haminjia), or B) when the land was in peril of destruction or defeat from outside parties. Many believe that such a ritual sacrifice took place during the Battle for Britain during World War II, and that the successful rendering of the sacrifice turned Hitler away from the invasion of Britain. The wizard Jesus, thought among esoteric circles to be of the Celtic lineage as well as Judaic, underwent this sacrificial ritual for the whole of humanity during his crucifixion. After his death, it is believed that his uncle, Joseph of Arimathea, took the grail hallows (the cup, the spear, the stone, and the sword) to Britain and entombed them at Glastonbury, one of the ancient wisdom centers. Many British esotericists believe that the Grail cup still remains in Chalice Well at Glastonbury Abbey, where the reddish tint of the high-ferrous content of the waters there is both reminiscent and causative of Christ's blood.
Druids were also schooled in practical magic. They employed magical herbalism on a regular basis, as well as work with magical symbols such as runes and oghams (pronounced OY-ams), carved on wood or stone. The oghams and runes functioned as alphabets as well, because the druids believed that the true essence of magic was carried by the word; the essence of thought transmitted through language. Each one of the oghams represented a tree energy, which could be tapped upon by the druid by the use of focussed concentration.
A mistaken belief is that the druids regularly practiced human sacrifice, preying upon the weak, women, and children. This unfortunate fable was spread during the Christianization of Europe when the missionaries sought to demonize any existing religions so that their own, Christianity, would have no rivals. During this process, the sacred dolmans and menhirs were defiled, mutilated, and often destroyed, the ancient gods turned into demons of horrific countenance and deed, and the druids and bards were killed as emissaries of Satan, often employing the Roman method of crucifixion. The following is an excerpt from William Butler Yeats' tragic and horrifying recounting of the crucifixion of one of these wizards: "The Crucifixion of the Outcast (1898)." The "outcast," a bardic wizard, is being crucified for having dared to complain about the conditions of the guest quarters at the local monastery to the abbot.
... A half-mile on the way he asked them to stop and see him juggle for them; for he knew, he said, all the tricks of Aengus and Subtlehearted. The old monks were for pressing on, but the young monks would see him: so he did many wonders for them, even to the drawing of live frogs out of his ears. But after awhile they turned on him, and said his tricks were dull and a little unholy, and set the cross on his shoulders again. Another half-mile on the way, and he asked them to stop and hear him jest for them, for he knew, he said, all the jests of Conan the Bald, upon whose back a sheep's wool grew. And the young monks, when they had heard his merry tales, again bade him to take up his cross, for it ill became them to listen to such follies. Another half-mile on the way, he asked them to stop and hear him sing the story of white-breasted Dierdre, and how she endured many sorrows and how the sons of Usna died to serve her. And the young monks were mad to hear him, but when he ended they grew angry, and beat him for waking forgotten longings in their hearts. So they set the cross on his back, and hurried him up the hill . . .
. . . So then they went away, but the beggars stayed on, sitting round the cross. But when the sun was sinking, they also got up to go, for the air was getting chilly. And as soon as they had gone a little way, the wolves, who had been showing themselves on the edge of a neighboring coppice, came nearer, and the birds wheeled closer and closer. "Stay, outcasts, yet a little while," the crucified one called in a weak voice to the beggars, "and keep the birds and beasts from me." But the beggars were angry that he had called them outcasts, so they threw stones and mud at him, and one that had a child held it up before his eyes and said that he was its father, and cursed him, and thereupon they left him. Then the wolves gathered at the foot of the cross, and the birds flew lower and lower. And presently the birds lighted all at once upon his head and arms and shoulders and began to peck at him, and the wolves began to eat his feet. "Outcasts," he moaned, "have you all turned against the outcast?"
The Celtic and Pictish warriors often sacrificed their captured enemies to their gods in gratitude of the victory. The warrior's heads would be preserved and mounted on pikes, since the Celts believed that the head was the seat of wisdom. Sacrifice was also done as a mercy to the warriors; the Celts reckoned that it was far worse to serve in slavery than to die quickly and go to the Gods to be reborn again. However, the only time the druids (wizards) ever employed human blood ritual was during the ritual of the sacrifice of the Sacred King. During this time, the tribal ruler or a representative of his house was sacrificed and the blood was allowed to flow onto the earth to rejuvenate it or give life back to it. Not only practiced among the Celts and Britons, but also among the Norse and Teutonic tribes, this sacrifice was held when A) the head of the ruling house was deemed to be ineffective, sterile, or having "lost his luck (haminjia), or B) when the land was in peril of destruction or defeat from outside parties. Many believe that such a ritual sacrifice took place during the Battle for Britain during World War II, and that the successful rendering of the sacrifice turned Hitler away from the invasion of Britain. The wizard Jesus, thought among esoteric circles to be of the Celtic lineage as well as Judaic, underwent this sacrificial ritual for the whole of humanity during his crucifixion. After his death, it is believed that his uncle, Joseph of Arimathea, took the grail hallows (the cup, the spear, the stone, and the sword) to Britain and entombed them at Glastonbury, one of the ancient wisdom centers. Many British esotericists believe that the Grail cup still remains in Chalice Well at Glastonbury Abbey, where the reddish tint of the high-ferrous content of the waters there is both reminiscent and causative of Christ's blood.
24 September 2016 21:45
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In the harsh environment of Northwestern Europe came a different type of wizard from the Middle Eastern biblical mages of antiquity. Desiring to tame or at least temper the ferocity of their environment, these wizards became students of nature; ritualists of flora and fauna. These wizards, known as Druids among the Celts, Picts, and Gauls, and Spae-workers and Vitki among the Norse and Teutons, wielded ritual magic geared toward the taming of the elemental forces of nature to ensure the continuation of their race. Many of them were master healers, skilled in the knowledge of herbalism and of magical healing ritual. Unlike the biblical wizards such as Aaron, Samuel, Solomon, and Jesus, whose purpose was to lead masses of people, the druids and their ilk shied away from leadership roles, performing a more supportive or "staff" role in the organization of their tribal culture. Also unlike the great biblical wizards, quite often druids and spae-workers were female instead of male. Indeed, druidic magic relied heavily upon the feminine energies of the Earth and Nature, rather than the masculine energies of pure Spirit employed by Elisha and Solomon.
Bards, (known as Skaldr among the Norse and Teutons) were wizards skilled in the use of magic through music and poetic form. As entertainers, they were superb; as wizards, they employed the magic of the spoken word, rhyme, tempo, cadence, and melody to weave their powerful spells. A bard had to know three things: how to make people laugh, how to make people cry, and how to put them to sleep (often to escape from persecution).
Among the Norse, spae-workers were classified by the gender of the magic involved. Galdr-workers invoked the masculine, outward, proactive energies, symbolized by the runes, and most often were men, although there were female runic vitkis as well. Seith (Seidhr)-workers invoked the feminine, receptive energies of nature, and was involved in shamanic travel (astral projection), shape-shifting, and soothsaying. Females were most likely to be seith-workers, although a few males also practiced the art. It is rumored that Odhinn taught Freyja the arts of Galdr, and she taught him the arts of Seith. In order to do this, each one had to ritually "become" the other gender for a period of time to be able to grasp the mysteries. For the uninitiated and unenlightened, this was considered to be a point of derision, against nature, and thus spae-workers were often shunned and feared, or made jest of.
Druidic magic was very ritualistic and heavily steeped in ceremony. Rituals were performed at specific ceremonies, especially those having to do with the lunar and solar cycles. The changing of the seasons was an especially important ritual period for the druids, as was the middle point of each season. For a society heavily based on agriculture and hunting, their magic was geared towards the planting, harvest, and hunting cycles, seen in the festivals of Imbolc (Disting), Lammas (Loaf-Fest), Yule (Jul), Eostre (Ostara), Samhain (Winternights), Beltane (Walpurgis), Mabon, and Midsummer (Litha). Minor rituals were held at the new and full moons, and at important events during the year (birthing and death rituals, etc.) The new and full moon rituals occurred roughly every 14 days. The new moon ritual was considered the "inbreath" cycle of nature, when the energies flowed back into the Earth. The full moon ritual worked with the "outbreath" cycle, when the energies flowed from the earth back to the spirit. The two-week period of time involved for each cycle was called a "fortnight," (14 nights), and to this day, this is still a time reference used by the British.
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Bards, (known as Skaldr among the Norse and Teutons) were wizards skilled in the use of magic through music and poetic form. As entertainers, they were superb; as wizards, they employed the magic of the spoken word, rhyme, tempo, cadence, and melody to weave their powerful spells. A bard had to know three things: how to make people laugh, how to make people cry, and how to put them to sleep (often to escape from persecution).
Among the Norse, spae-workers were classified by the gender of the magic involved. Galdr-workers invoked the masculine, outward, proactive energies, symbolized by the runes, and most often were men, although there were female runic vitkis as well. Seith (Seidhr)-workers invoked the feminine, receptive energies of nature, and was involved in shamanic travel (astral projection), shape-shifting, and soothsaying. Females were most likely to be seith-workers, although a few males also practiced the art. It is rumored that Odhinn taught Freyja the arts of Galdr, and she taught him the arts of Seith. In order to do this, each one had to ritually "become" the other gender for a period of time to be able to grasp the mysteries. For the uninitiated and unenlightened, this was considered to be a point of derision, against nature, and thus spae-workers were often shunned and feared, or made jest of.
Druidic magic was very ritualistic and heavily steeped in ceremony. Rituals were performed at specific ceremonies, especially those having to do with the lunar and solar cycles. The changing of the seasons was an especially important ritual period for the druids, as was the middle point of each season. For a society heavily based on agriculture and hunting, their magic was geared towards the planting, harvest, and hunting cycles, seen in the festivals of Imbolc (Disting), Lammas (Loaf-Fest), Yule (Jul), Eostre (Ostara), Samhain (Winternights), Beltane (Walpurgis), Mabon, and Midsummer (Litha). Minor rituals were held at the new and full moons, and at important events during the year (birthing and death rituals, etc.) The new and full moon rituals occurred roughly every 14 days. The new moon ritual was considered the "inbreath" cycle of nature, when the energies flowed back into the Earth. The full moon ritual worked with the "outbreath" cycle, when the energies flowed from the earth back to the spirit. The two-week period of time involved for each cycle was called a "fortnight," (14 nights), and to this day, this is still a time reference used by the British.
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24 September 2016 21:44
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On top of this, there were races of beings that had come to Earth to disrupt the working out of the Divine Plan. It was during this time that the Great Lie was spread; that to align one's will with the Divine would mean the annihilation of one's individuality. Humanity was terrified, and reacted from panic and anger at having been "tricked" by the Creative Force (otherwise known as God). A rebellion occurred in which much of the creative technology was turned towards destruction, and the firmament, the network of protective crystals just outside the atmosphere of the Earth, was destroyed, allowing the destructive radioactivity of the Sun's rays to penetrate to Earth. The genetics of humanity was physically altered; the DNA dropped from 12 strands to 2 strands, and humanity plummeted into physical dense manifestation rather than physical etheric. In order to protect the Divine Plan, the Divine Hierarchy withdrew from humanity, severing the connection with humanity (the breaking of the antakaranah) and from the Devic kingdom. It was at this time that the second fall of humanity, the one spoken of in the Bible as the "Tower of Babel" occurred, and the survivors of mankind were spread to the ends of the Earth. The great continents of Atlantis and Lemuria fell below sea level in the resulting floods, with only the top of the tallest mountains remaining above the level of the oceans. In Lemuria, these became the islands of Hawaii, Micronesia, and the Aleutian Islands; in Atlantis, the islands of Britain and Ireland.
When the Great Lie was finally understood for its falsity, the remaining portion of humanity was aggrieved, bitter, and guilty. Viewing the destruction of the world as punishment instead of seeing it for the restructuring of reality based upon the consequences of their actions, mankind withdrew and refused to take responsibility for their own creative powers anymore, giving that responsibility over to the Devic kingdom. Humanity wished to become as children, innocent and unblemished by having to work directly with their creative energy. Those who continued to work with their creative energy, the wizards, were shunned, reviled, and even destroyed for their work. Already pointing the finger of blame at the wizards; the creators, for the devastations of Atlantis and Lemuria, wizardry became a thing of cursedness and evil. It was considered an act of abomination against God to take claim of one's own personal powers of creativity. Even sexual procreation, as a creative force, was reviled and only engaged in for the reproduction and survival of the human race.
After many aeons, civilizations once again grew; in the new continents of Eurasia, Africa, and the Americas. The memory and shame of what occurred was branded in the soul memory of humanity, and people still refused to take responsibility for their power, consigning themselves to a miserable "ping-pong" match of karma from which there was no perceivable end. Wizards still remained; that is, those members of humanity who refused to give up their creative powers and continue to work with them. By performing miracles, "acts of God," Wizards gained favor in the eyes of the people who believed that they were direct emissaries of God, the Creative force. By aligning their wills with the Divine, Wizards were channeling energies directly from the Love source in order to help their brothers and sisters forge a path back to the Creative Love source, the cosmic "all." Many of these wizards became great spiritual leaders, to whom whole civilizations looked to for guidance and hope.
When the Great Lie was finally understood for its falsity, the remaining portion of humanity was aggrieved, bitter, and guilty. Viewing the destruction of the world as punishment instead of seeing it for the restructuring of reality based upon the consequences of their actions, mankind withdrew and refused to take responsibility for their own creative powers anymore, giving that responsibility over to the Devic kingdom. Humanity wished to become as children, innocent and unblemished by having to work directly with their creative energy. Those who continued to work with their creative energy, the wizards, were shunned, reviled, and even destroyed for their work. Already pointing the finger of blame at the wizards; the creators, for the devastations of Atlantis and Lemuria, wizardry became a thing of cursedness and evil. It was considered an act of abomination against God to take claim of one's own personal powers of creativity. Even sexual procreation, as a creative force, was reviled and only engaged in for the reproduction and survival of the human race.
After many aeons, civilizations once again grew; in the new continents of Eurasia, Africa, and the Americas. The memory and shame of what occurred was branded in the soul memory of humanity, and people still refused to take responsibility for their power, consigning themselves to a miserable "ping-pong" match of karma from which there was no perceivable end. Wizards still remained; that is, those members of humanity who refused to give up their creative powers and continue to work with them. By performing miracles, "acts of God," Wizards gained favor in the eyes of the people who believed that they were direct emissaries of God, the Creative force. By aligning their wills with the Divine, Wizards were channeling energies directly from the Love source in order to help their brothers and sisters forge a path back to the Creative Love source, the cosmic "all." Many of these wizards became great spiritual leaders, to whom whole civilizations looked to for guidance and hope.
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Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Since the dawn of time, we have sought to understand and interact with our environment. We have the ability to render conscious change in our surroundings, for good or for bad. We are, every one of us, ultimately a wizard in that we are engaged in the co-creative process (co-creating with Spirit) of our realities. Walking through the darkness of ignorance, the wizard learns to gravitate toward the ultimate Light of the Divine Plan for humanity by making an alignment with this plan. Having created an alignment with the Divine, the wizard pulls energy from the Creative Love source through his or her equipment and uses it to render conscious change in the world around him. The only difference in the way this is done today versus how it was done in antiquity is what we have to work with.
In the earliest dawn of the great civilizations of earth, the ancient mystery schools spoke of two civilizations: Atlantis and Lemuria (MU). These civilizations had achieved technology (also known as applied magic) and spirituality unheard of on the Earth since that time. However, the magic and enlightenment came too easily because of the variability of the magnetic gridwork around the Earth in that era. Because people did not know truly understand the consequences of what they were creating, abominations were created that plagued the world for eons. People here did this not out of malice, but out of ignorance of what they were doing. Many of the monsters created are those spoken of in the ancient mythologies, including minotaurs (humans with the heads of bulls), centaurs (humans with the lower body of horses), satyrs (humans with the lower bodies of goats), giants, vampires, demons, and other ill-created races. In addition, the Astral plane (plane of pure feeling and emotions) was being built, with no mediating force of a mental plane of awareness. Consequently, much pain and suffering was experienced in order to push the boundaries of the Astral plane as far as possible.
In the earliest dawn of the great civilizations of earth, the ancient mystery schools spoke of two civilizations: Atlantis and Lemuria (MU). These civilizations had achieved technology (also known as applied magic) and spirituality unheard of on the Earth since that time. However, the magic and enlightenment came too easily because of the variability of the magnetic gridwork around the Earth in that era. Because people did not know truly understand the consequences of what they were creating, abominations were created that plagued the world for eons. People here did this not out of malice, but out of ignorance of what they were doing. Many of the monsters created are those spoken of in the ancient mythologies, including minotaurs (humans with the heads of bulls), centaurs (humans with the lower body of horses), satyrs (humans with the lower bodies of goats), giants, vampires, demons, and other ill-created races. In addition, the Astral plane (plane of pure feeling and emotions) was being built, with no mediating force of a mental plane of awareness. Consequently, much pain and suffering was experienced in order to push the boundaries of the Astral plane as far as possible.
24 September 2016 21:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jesu
The most influential wizard that ever walked the face of this earth, indisputably, would be Jesu (Jesus), son of Mary and Joseph, the one hailed as the Messiah, who stationed the energies of the Christ Spirit and brought a message of peace and love to the Earth, as well as provided a blueprint by which mankind could extricate himself from the "maze" of karma and begin the process of ascension. No other wizard has been more revered and more misunderstood. He is reputed to have wept often for humanity, for he knew that eventually his words would be twisted and perverted and turned against him and the message of love that he brought to the world. Like most all wizards, he was a sensualist; he loved good food and wine, the company of his friends, and being comfortable (and he could be peevish when awakened suddenly). He could be impatient, and was NOT perfect even though he was stationing a Divine Spirit; as evidenced of his blasting the unproductive fig tree or his driving the merchants out of the Temple of Jerusalem.
Jesus never spoke of abstinence, but of fulfillment of the true potential of humanity. "All these things that I have done, you can do and even more," he repeatedly told those who followed him, indicating that the power of Love and Creation was open to all, not just to a select few. His statement, "I and the Father are one," was not referring to his being a Deity, but his Divine alignment with the Creative Love source, the cosmic All. "No man comes to the father except by me," was in reference to the Christ Spirit, the great Light Body of Humanity, the source of all Love. In short, no one can approach the Creative source except through the energies of See-La-Aum, the essence of Love.
The wizard Jesus did NOT die for the sins of humanity, although the sacrifice he undertook did much to halt and clean up the acceleration of karmic debt that humanity was incurring.. In a dramatic measure, he undertook the torture of crucifixion as an ancient pagan ritual of the sacrifice of the Sacred King; in which the king's blood falls onto the earth to bring it new life. The Crucifixion was indicative of the 4th spiritual initiation, in which all is stripped from the individual and they become a point of consciousness, their own "I AM." The ascension took place 40 days after he reappeared to his disciples; again, a dramatic portrayal of the ascension process that humanity as a whole is now approaching.
The most influential wizard that ever walked the face of this earth, indisputably, would be Jesu (Jesus), son of Mary and Joseph, the one hailed as the Messiah, who stationed the energies of the Christ Spirit and brought a message of peace and love to the Earth, as well as provided a blueprint by which mankind could extricate himself from the "maze" of karma and begin the process of ascension. No other wizard has been more revered and more misunderstood. He is reputed to have wept often for humanity, for he knew that eventually his words would be twisted and perverted and turned against him and the message of love that he brought to the world. Like most all wizards, he was a sensualist; he loved good food and wine, the company of his friends, and being comfortable (and he could be peevish when awakened suddenly). He could be impatient, and was NOT perfect even though he was stationing a Divine Spirit; as evidenced of his blasting the unproductive fig tree or his driving the merchants out of the Temple of Jerusalem.
Jesus never spoke of abstinence, but of fulfillment of the true potential of humanity. "All these things that I have done, you can do and even more," he repeatedly told those who followed him, indicating that the power of Love and Creation was open to all, not just to a select few. His statement, "I and the Father are one," was not referring to his being a Deity, but his Divine alignment with the Creative Love source, the cosmic All. "No man comes to the father except by me," was in reference to the Christ Spirit, the great Light Body of Humanity, the source of all Love. In short, no one can approach the Creative source except through the energies of See-La-Aum, the essence of Love.
The wizard Jesus did NOT die for the sins of humanity, although the sacrifice he undertook did much to halt and clean up the acceleration of karmic debt that humanity was incurring.. In a dramatic measure, he undertook the torture of crucifixion as an ancient pagan ritual of the sacrifice of the Sacred King; in which the king's blood falls onto the earth to bring it new life. The Crucifixion was indicative of the 4th spiritual initiation, in which all is stripped from the individual and they become a point of consciousness, their own "I AM." The ascension took place 40 days after he reappeared to his disciples; again, a dramatic portrayal of the ascension process that humanity as a whole is now approaching.
24 September 2016 21:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The Hebrew race was, and still is, a race of master wizards. Through the recorded history of the Bible, consistently this race wielded power when they made an alignment with the Creative Love force (to them, known as Yahweh) and how they were weakened and vulnerable when they broke from this alignment and tried to "go it alone." Their environment was harsh and unyielding, yet through their tribal lineage and their adherence to their legal and social codes as dictated to them by their God, they managed to thrive and become a mighty nation in the ancient world.
Joseph
The second-youngest son of Jacob, Joseph was a talented shaman with the ability to both vision-quest and to interpret dreams. For this he gained both his father's love and his brother's intense jealousy, and was sold into slavery in Egypt. His shamanic talents proved his and his family's salvation, for in his accurate interpretation of Pharaoh's (believed now to be Amenhotep III) dream and his accurate prediction of the years of famine that was to plague Egypt, he won not only his freedom, but was raised to a position of high honor, becoming the first vizier in recorded history. His hard-won efforts eventually reunited his family and through his father Jacob, initiated the twelve tribes of Israel.
Aaron
The brother of Moses, Aaron was a master thaumaturge who worked the many miracles and feats that Moses channeled from the Creative source. Most of these were related to gaining the freedom of the Hebrews from their Egyptian oppressors under Pharaoh Rameses II. As Moses' second-in-command, Aaron fulfilled perfectly the role of vizier to his brother. He was not without fault, though, as he caved in to the Israelite's demands for an idol to worship (the Golden Calf) while Moses was receiving the ten commandments on Mount Sinai, and both he and Moses fell in Yahweh's sight for losing patience with their God in the desert. Aaron's became the first High Priest of the Israelites, and his tribe, the Levites, were regularly consecrated for the priesthood.
Joshua
After Moses' death, he entrusted the leadership of the Israelites to the druid Joshua. He commanded an incredible amount of power over the forces of nature, which he used to great benefit for the claiming of the Promised Land. Through a concentrated magical force, both using sound and synchronized marching over a fault line, his armies caused a minor earthquake that shook down the walls of Jericho. Later, he was even purported to be able to effect the flow of time, in that "the Sun and the Moon stood still" during the battle of Gibeon. This Biblical passage has created a great deal of consternation among scholars who still try to determine its authenticity.
Samuel
The mystic Samuel held the position of being the last of the great Hebrew judges and the first of the prophets of the old testament. He was, among other things, a clairvoyant and an empath, whose deep sensitivity helped him to forge a direct connection to the Divine Source. He is considered to be one of the greatest of the Hebrew prophets and leaders, and acted as vizier to King Saul, whom he anointed, and as a mentor to David, who would eventually replace Saul as king. After Samuel's death, he was called back into being through necromantic means by Saul, using the witch of Endor as a channel, and severely rebuked Saul and foretold his downfall and defeat at the hands of David.
Elisha
Both Elias (Elijah) and his apprentice Elisa (Elisha) were great wizards; yet Elisha's workings became far greater known than that of his master, who was transcended into the 4th dimension in a fiery chariot. Elisha became known as a powerful thaumaturge, who performed miracles of transmutation and transformation of matter, including multiplication of supplies and resources, neutralization of poisoned waters, reviving the dead, and divination. He is also said to have commanded the the beasts of the forest (two bears) to devour the youths who were accosting him.
Solomon
Other than Jesu himself, Solomon stands as the greatest wizard of the ancient traditions; his methods and rituals still studied to this day by alchemists and adepts. An adept himself, Solomon was noted for his extraordinary wisdom, granted by his God, He is the only wizard in the Hebrew tradition to have ascended to the station of kingship; most wizards do not seek such positions of influence.
Solomon was, among other things, an astronomer and astrologer, and regularly practiced alchemy as well as adeptship. Many of the alchemical glyphs and seals he rendered are studied by magical practitioners to this day. Solomon was able to command the Djinn (Genies) and is purported to have "bottled" the first Djinn in service. He was able to cast out demons, including Asmodeus, and is said to have bound the archdemons Gog and Magog to their pits with the use of magical devices. He is also responsible for the building of the temple of Jerusalem, and is known among the Freemasons as "The Master Builder."
Daniel
The shaman Daniel was a dream-interpreter much like Joseph (see above) and also spoke with angels (discarnate beings) as an intermediary between Man and the Heavenly Host. He served as vizier to Nebuchadnezzar II of Babylon, his son Baalthazar, and to the Medic king Darius I. Daniel's ability to divine caused him to be a spokesman for the future, not to the present generation, and for this reason Judaism does not recognized Daniel as a prophet, although Christianity does. Among his other feats was surviving a night in a den of savage lions.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/wizards/history.html
Joseph
The second-youngest son of Jacob, Joseph was a talented shaman with the ability to both vision-quest and to interpret dreams. For this he gained both his father's love and his brother's intense jealousy, and was sold into slavery in Egypt. His shamanic talents proved his and his family's salvation, for in his accurate interpretation of Pharaoh's (believed now to be Amenhotep III) dream and his accurate prediction of the years of famine that was to plague Egypt, he won not only his freedom, but was raised to a position of high honor, becoming the first vizier in recorded history. His hard-won efforts eventually reunited his family and through his father Jacob, initiated the twelve tribes of Israel.
Aaron
The brother of Moses, Aaron was a master thaumaturge who worked the many miracles and feats that Moses channeled from the Creative source. Most of these were related to gaining the freedom of the Hebrews from their Egyptian oppressors under Pharaoh Rameses II. As Moses' second-in-command, Aaron fulfilled perfectly the role of vizier to his brother. He was not without fault, though, as he caved in to the Israelite's demands for an idol to worship (the Golden Calf) while Moses was receiving the ten commandments on Mount Sinai, and both he and Moses fell in Yahweh's sight for losing patience with their God in the desert. Aaron's became the first High Priest of the Israelites, and his tribe, the Levites, were regularly consecrated for the priesthood.
Joshua
After Moses' death, he entrusted the leadership of the Israelites to the druid Joshua. He commanded an incredible amount of power over the forces of nature, which he used to great benefit for the claiming of the Promised Land. Through a concentrated magical force, both using sound and synchronized marching over a fault line, his armies caused a minor earthquake that shook down the walls of Jericho. Later, he was even purported to be able to effect the flow of time, in that "the Sun and the Moon stood still" during the battle of Gibeon. This Biblical passage has created a great deal of consternation among scholars who still try to determine its authenticity.
Samuel
The mystic Samuel held the position of being the last of the great Hebrew judges and the first of the prophets of the old testament. He was, among other things, a clairvoyant and an empath, whose deep sensitivity helped him to forge a direct connection to the Divine Source. He is considered to be one of the greatest of the Hebrew prophets and leaders, and acted as vizier to King Saul, whom he anointed, and as a mentor to David, who would eventually replace Saul as king. After Samuel's death, he was called back into being through necromantic means by Saul, using the witch of Endor as a channel, and severely rebuked Saul and foretold his downfall and defeat at the hands of David.
Elisha
Both Elias (Elijah) and his apprentice Elisa (Elisha) were great wizards; yet Elisha's workings became far greater known than that of his master, who was transcended into the 4th dimension in a fiery chariot. Elisha became known as a powerful thaumaturge, who performed miracles of transmutation and transformation of matter, including multiplication of supplies and resources, neutralization of poisoned waters, reviving the dead, and divination. He is also said to have commanded the the beasts of the forest (two bears) to devour the youths who were accosting him.
Solomon
Other than Jesu himself, Solomon stands as the greatest wizard of the ancient traditions; his methods and rituals still studied to this day by alchemists and adepts. An adept himself, Solomon was noted for his extraordinary wisdom, granted by his God, He is the only wizard in the Hebrew tradition to have ascended to the station of kingship; most wizards do not seek such positions of influence.
Solomon was, among other things, an astronomer and astrologer, and regularly practiced alchemy as well as adeptship. Many of the alchemical glyphs and seals he rendered are studied by magical practitioners to this day. Solomon was able to command the Djinn (Genies) and is purported to have "bottled" the first Djinn in service. He was able to cast out demons, including Asmodeus, and is said to have bound the archdemons Gog and Magog to their pits with the use of magical devices. He is also responsible for the building of the temple of Jerusalem, and is known among the Freemasons as "The Master Builder."
Daniel
The shaman Daniel was a dream-interpreter much like Joseph (see above) and also spoke with angels (discarnate beings) as an intermediary between Man and the Heavenly Host. He served as vizier to Nebuchadnezzar II of Babylon, his son Baalthazar, and to the Medic king Darius I. Daniel's ability to divine caused him to be a spokesman for the future, not to the present generation, and for this reason Judaism does not recognized Daniel as a prophet, although Christianity does. Among his other feats was surviving a night in a den of savage lions.
http://www.wizardrealm.com/wizards/history.html
http://www.wizardrealm.com/wizards/history.html
24 September 2016 21:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid jah, inimesed unustavad aega, millal nad veel mäletasid ja tundsid, ja ei mõista enam selle arusaama vajalikust, kuidas mäletada tundmist ja siiraid aegu
24 September 2016 21:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://britishtheatre.com/joseph-and-the-amazing-technicolour-dreamcoat-2016-uk-tour/
http://britishtheatre.com/joseph-and-the-amazing-technicolour-dreamcoat-2016-uk-tour/
24 September 2016 21:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Joseph was first presented as a 15-minute pop cantata at Colet Court School in London in 1968 and was recorded as a concept album in 1969. After the success of the next Lloyd Webber and Rice piece, Jesus Christ Superstar, Joseph received stage productions beginning in 1970":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_and_the_Amazing_Technicolor_Dreamcoat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_and_the_Amazing_Technicolor_Dreamcoat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_and_the_Amazing_Technicolor_Dreamcoat
24 September 2016 21:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
peaasi, et need viis viimast meelest eip lää https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyscwn4dfMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyscwn4dfMo
24 September 2016 21:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysFrdH401k4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysFrdH401k4
24 September 2016 20:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eks mul oma tööd ka rasketeha kui ei kuulata... ütlesin ju, et lips tuleb maha jätta, ja see vunts endiselt lipsu ja ülikonnaga, nagu aru ei saaks mis selle pildijuures valesti on
24 September 2016 18:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid üldjuhul ennast tunnen kõigerohkem süüdi, et oma võlukunsti ei rakendanud, liialt kindel olin ilma selleta... kuid ja.. eks siis peab kõike muud edasi arendama,
Vabandused
Vabandused
24 September 2016 18:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid jah, siinkohal siis õpetus, et Vaimu soosingust ei piisa.
24 September 2016 18:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vaimuilmas muidu on toetus küll kuid nagu ..
eks mu töö jäi ka tegemata mida eila tegema pidin.
kuid sellest ei hakka rääkima
eks mu töö jäi ka tegemata mida eila tegema pidin.
kuid sellest ei hakka rääkima
24 September 2016 17:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hmm, eksimus missugune
24 September 2016 17:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Otsevalimised saavad ka reaalseks,
järgimiseks korraks .
irooniline on see, et selle teenb teoks president kelle kallal niisuur hulk inimesi ise virises
järgimiseks korraks .
irooniline on see, et selle teenb teoks president kelle kallal niisuur hulk inimesi ise virises
24 September 2016 17:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui algusest lõpuni piltlikult visualiseerida tähendus
24 September 2016 01:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Iseenesest lihtne
24 September 2016 01:02
Margus Meigo replied to Gary Stubbs's comment.
I meant, if it is to hard to belive that in earthly, physical world, then realize, this is spiritual dimension plan and workings, for these reasons.
For me berders between these worlds, are not so strong, as i laline by the spiritual, from physical perspective
For me berders between these worlds, are not so strong, as i laline by the spiritual, from physical perspective
24 September 2016 00:22
Margus Meigo replied to Gary Stubbs's comment.
Nu ma tegelt vaimne inimene, et see plaan mis nii selgelt mul kristall selge, võib olla ka rohkem vaimne plaan kui maine, et siis uskuda seda, kui maised lepingud tunduksid liiga keeurlised.
24 September 2016 00:21
Margus Meigo replied to Gary Stubbs's comment.
Trump ?
24 September 2016 00:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Friends of Urantia Book Fellowship
and Vegetarianism24 September 2016 00:12
Margus Meigo commented on Ivo Mägi's post.
Kuid kasulikud on ikka sellised asjad
24 September 2016 00:01
Margus Meigo commented on Ivo Mägi's post.
Võiks ikka tõde tõlkida..
24 September 2016 00:00
Margus Meigo commented on Ivo Mägi's post.
Meie maal copyrighty pärast plokitud.. on tegelased
24 September 2016 00:00
Margus Meigo replied to Marion Selberg's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
oeh, kudiagi ei leia : (23 September 2016 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
We should leave T>rump alone, is not like he would become ever president or would have plans for that,
he was just used, to secure Clinton,
he is Clinton Trump, ... so really wrong ones would not newer become there.
he was just used, to secure Clinton,
he is Clinton Trump, ... so really wrong ones would not newer become there.
23 September 2016 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEOIfLcjdbg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEOIfLcjdbg
23 September 2016 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
+ Muusikat mis meenutab Ah-aad.. Depech moode..
Õiged suunad, tunnetamaks erinevaid muusika spektrume kes on proovinud hingest head teha, läbi olukordade
Õiged suunad, tunnetamaks erinevaid muusika spektrume kes on proovinud hingest head teha, läbi olukordade
23 September 2016 22:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Üks teine saade oli neil metalist, päris head metalit lasid,
http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=12&Itemid=62
http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=12&Itemid=62
http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=12&Itemid=62
23 September 2016 22:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/kandidaat-tahab-teha-enda-poolt-haaletanute-kogu?id=4361564
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/kandidaat-tahab-teha-enda-poolt-haaletanute-kogu?id=4361564
23 September 2016 17:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.delfi.ee/news/presidendivalimised2016/uudised/riigiprokuratuur-tarandile-presidendivalimistel-haale-avalikustamisel-ei-olnud-tegemist-kuriteoga?id=75665573&com=1®=0&no=0&s=1
http://www.delfi.ee/news/presidendivalimised2016/uudised/riigiprokuratuur-tarandile-presidendivalimistel-haale-avalikustamisel-ei-olnud-tegemist-kuriteoga?id=75665573&com=1®=0&no=0&s=1
23 September 2016 17:24
Margus Meigo commented on Ants Esna's post.
Group: Tutvus-chat 35+
vatsin algul, et võsapets23 September 2016 10:07
Margus Meigo commented on Ansa Ann's post.
Group: Tutvus-chat 35+
Te päriselt ema ja tütar?
Hmm, :)23 September 2016 10:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Õpetussõnad 8:24 lopuni..23 September 2016 09:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
õiguse rakendamiseks, aga vaja tarkust, tarkus aga teatavasti on nais soost, kuid Greeka-Rooma Homo impeeriumi kultuuri põhises ühiskonnas, on suht raske Naiste jumaliku teadvust austavaid ja mõistvaid liidreid leida, kes nendel teemadel ka rääkida julgeksid.
Et liiga "esoteeriline" tundub öeldakse..23 September 2016 09:51
Margus Meigo commented on Monika Helme's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kuid elukombeline liberalsus tuleks muidu jah, diagnoosiks kuulutada, siis saab ka paremini aidata inimesi,
sest aju töötab sellistes viirustes, inimesel hoopis muud moodi, ja see oleks sama hea kui skisofreenikut süüdistada asjade ja olukordade nägemises, mida vähemate tajudega inimene suuteline kogema ei ole.
Lihtsalt liberaali aju ja taju on teine, nende relgioone nabanöör on lõigatud ja ei mõisteta, et aeg ei muutu kunagi, ja et mis on õige kunagi on õige alati23 September 2016 09:48
Margus Meigo commented on Monika Helme's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Maarahvale muidugi on suht irooniline vaadata selliseid slooganeid kellelt iganes kes lipsu kannab, et teistele meeldida ja sisse sulanduda "Normidese"..23 September 2016 09:46
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ega Puutiniga jutustamine ei peagi olema mingi muhelemine semudega meeldiva kaminatule ja piibu saatel, kui Sa just semu ole..
Nu Trumbiga ta suts muheleks.. kuid kui Clinton Vladimmiga rääkima saata, siis oleks Putin see, kellel ebamugav oleks, kuid kaugeltki mitte nii ebamugav kui islamiriigi liidritel, kes siis peavad mitte ainult teesklust tegema, et ameerikat austavad, vaid jubamidagi hoopis raskemat ja võimatut: Ameerika naisele kummardamine... ja see juba on tase, mis neid häirib niipalju sügavamalt, kollektiivselt (kaotavad oma toetajad kui seda teevad, kuid samas kaotavad respekti ja võlts austuse meedia mängu ees ku iseda ei tee.. lipsumeestele võlts kummardused ja naeratused antakse andeks.. kuid matriarhaadi suunaga Clintonile.. kelle mees ka veel selline.. see on tase mida lihtsalt mille vaatamist nautima hakkan tolle väliskülastustel. ) http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/84575222/vladimir-putins-close-friend-donald-trump-will-be-next-us-presidenthttp://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/84575222/vladimir-putins-close-friend-donald-trump-will-be-next-us-president
23 September 2016 09:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Why to blame NSA - National Security Agency for ..
23 September 2016 09:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But instead we read something like that...
http://mashable.com/2013/08/09/silent-circle-lavabit-shut-down-to-avoid-nsa-snooping
http://mashable.com/2013/08/09/silent-circle-lavabit-shut-down-to-avoid-nsa-snooping
http://mashable.com/2013/08/09/silent-circle-lavabit-shut-down-to-avoid-nsa-snooping
23 September 2016 09:36
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Lightman's post.
Lsd
What Shold do? Religious trip ofcourse! Costs nearly nothing also.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
http://humansarefree.com/2014/04/scientists-and-engineers-took-lsd-as.html
But it takes still time becouse.. http://boingboing.net/2008/08/20/lsd-as-therapeutic-t.html
What Shold do? Religious trip ofcourse! Costs nearly nothing also.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
http://humansarefree.com/2014/04/scientists-and-engineers-took-lsd-as.html
But it takes still time becouse.. http://boingboing.net/2008/08/20/lsd-as-therapeutic-t.html
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
23 September 2016 09:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(i am radical conservative religious nationalist)
23 September 2016 01:50
Margus Meigo replied to Sean Kirby's comment.
If it is allowed to answer like that, then why not : )
For greater good, to save from wolfs
For greater good, to save from wolfs
23 September 2016 01:49
Margus Meigo replied to Michael Collins's comment.
How?
23 September 2016 01:45
Margus Meigo replied to Michael Collins's comment.
Why?
23 September 2016 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on Codi von Richthofen's post.
Love Her,
Glad that She will be president, brings a lot of hope and will mess up anti-american plans from Roman Empire Russia to other imperial radicals to fake isis
Glad that She will be president, brings a lot of hope and will mess up anti-american plans from Roman Empire Russia to other imperial radicals to fake isis
23 September 2016 01:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
NO STATUS, SRRY
22 September 2016 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on Tara E Girod's post.
HEY!
22 September 2016 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
Yeah.. now look up how much takes for coffe.. or better jet..
actually.. the white sugar.. (there is 2 types of white sugar, with sulpful and with animal bones... not sure who used more water... )
actually.. the white sugar.. (there is 2 types of white sugar, with sulpful and with animal bones... not sure who used more water... )
22 September 2016 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
omg..
22 September 2016 03:07
Margus Meigo replied to Yvette Lai's comment.
True!
22 September 2016 03:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or better jet
22 September 2016 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on Tara E Girod's photo.
Like a 18 century romantic painting
22 September 2016 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on Tara E Girod's photo.
This is how i feel
22 September 2016 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on Tara E Girod's post.
i think We got access to these kind of pills..
22 September 2016 01:25
Margus Meigo replied to Nicola Cipollone's comment.
Tell us more
22 September 2016 01:24
Margus Meigo commented on Tara E Girod's photo.
Probably opposite is more true
22 September 2016 01:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See kõik selleks,et poleks segadust, ega raske aru saada, et miks meieühiskond, poliitika, kunstist teatrini ja käitumisnormid ja haridus.. elu ja kaubandus tundub kõik nii kandiline, tulnukalik, karvutu ja ebanaiselik...
Sest tuleb aru saada, kelle käe all see ülesseatud.. ja milliste mõtetega inimeste poolt vorbitud...
Kui selles usku ka veel sees räbalana alles poleks... siis polekski lootust.. kuid nüüd pole aga patustajal lootust.. sest need samad käsud.. saab panna IGA kurja korda tegemiseks... kuid vaid uskuma hakkad ja aru saama, kes me oleme
Sest tuleb aru saada, kelle käe all see ülesseatud.. ja milliste mõtetega inimeste poolt vorbitud...
Kui selles usku ka veel sees räbalana alles poleks... siis polekski lootust.. kuid nüüd pole aga patustajal lootust.. sest need samad käsud.. saab panna IGA kurja korda tegemiseks... kuid vaid uskuma hakkad ja aru saama, kes me oleme
21 September 2016 06:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
Huvitav seriaal...
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Lilith
Huvitav seriaal...
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Lilith
21 September 2016 05:19
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's post.
yeah.. no point to blame Lillith
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith : )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith : )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith
21 September 2016 05:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// oh one more thingy... "And then.. we made democracy.. to easy it all ..."
"The Holy Roman Empire (Latin: Sacrum Romanum Imperium) was a multi-ethnic complex of territories in central Europe that developed during the Early Middle Ages and continued until its dissolution in 1806.
1806 !!!
The largest territory of the empire after 962 was the Kingdom of Germany, though it also came to include the Kingdom of Bohemia, the Kingdom of Burgundy, the Kingdom of Italy, and numerous other territories ..."
The precise term "Holy Roman Empire" was not used until the 13th century, but the concept of translatio imperii,[d] the notion that he held supreme power inherited from the emperors of Rome, was fundamental to the prestige of the emperor. The office of Holy Roman Emperor was traditionally elective, although frequently controlled by dynasties. The German prince-electors, the highest-ranking noblemen of the empire, usually elected one of their peers as "King of the Romans", and he would later be crowned emperor by the Pope;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire#Institutions
// But yea.. in the end.. Nature and God people, was able to use this monster virus system, that was doomed to spread... by hooking some parts of relgion and truth on to them.. them spread and implemented something in to all the peope, that in the end, would be impossible to delete.. even if implemented perverted ways.. for reasons to prevent the Hebrew Matriarchy and nature people...
truth that allow Her self to be low.. of the lowest.. will come from all corners ... and
..and am will find out how to say it nice way, as that deserves.. then will say that : )
"The Holy Roman Empire (Latin: Sacrum Romanum Imperium) was a multi-ethnic complex of territories in central Europe that developed during the Early Middle Ages and continued until its dissolution in 1806.
1806 !!!
The largest territory of the empire after 962 was the Kingdom of Germany, though it also came to include the Kingdom of Bohemia, the Kingdom of Burgundy, the Kingdom of Italy, and numerous other territories ..."
The precise term "Holy Roman Empire" was not used until the 13th century, but the concept of translatio imperii,[d] the notion that he held supreme power inherited from the emperors of Rome, was fundamental to the prestige of the emperor. The office of Holy Roman Emperor was traditionally elective, although frequently controlled by dynasties. The German prince-electors, the highest-ranking noblemen of the empire, usually elected one of their peers as "King of the Romans", and he would later be crowned emperor by the Pope;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire#Institutions
// But yea.. in the end.. Nature and God people, was able to use this monster virus system, that was doomed to spread... by hooking some parts of relgion and truth on to them.. them spread and implemented something in to all the peope, that in the end, would be impossible to delete.. even if implemented perverted ways.. for reasons to prevent the Hebrew Matriarchy and nature people...
truth that allow Her self to be low.. of the lowest.. will come from all corners ... and
..and am will find out how to say it nice way, as that deserves.. then will say that : )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire#Institutions
21 September 2016 05:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The Value of Physical Education to the Ancient Greeks and Romans Throughout history, society has placed a different value on physical education and sport. The purpose of physical education has changed over different time periods and as a result of ever-changing socio-cultural events. Some civilizations use the practice of physical education to prepare for war, some for profit, and some for a general all-around development. Three ancient cultures are of particular importance to development of physical education. The Athenian Greeks, the Spartan Greeks, and the Romans each had their own beliefs about the mind, body, and spirit."
"...Some Roman men kept a male concubine (concubinus, "one who lies with; a bed-mate") before they married a woman. Eva Cantarella has described this form of concubinage as "a stable sexual relationship, not exclusive but privileged." Within the hierarchy of household slaves, the concubinus seems to have been regarded as holding a special or elevated status that was threatened by the introduction of a wife..."
"...The relationship with a concubinus might be discreet or more open: male concubines sometimes attended dinner parties with the man whose companion they were] Martial even suggests that a prized concubinus might pass from father to son as an especially coveted inheritance. A military officer on campaign might be accompanied by a concubinus..."
"...Various ancient sources state that the emperor Nero celebrated two public weddings with men, once taking the role of the bride (with a freedman Pythagoras), and once the groom (with Sporus); there may have been a third in which he was the bride. The ceremonies included traditional elements such as a dowry and the wearing of the Roman bridal veil.In the early 3rd century AD, the emperor Elagabalus is reported to have been the bride in a wedding to his male partner...."
http://www.collegetermpapers.com/TermPapers/Ec/The_Value_of_Physical_Education_to_the_Ancient_Greeks_and_Romans.html
"...Some Roman men kept a male concubine (concubinus, "one who lies with; a bed-mate") before they married a woman. Eva Cantarella has described this form of concubinage as "a stable sexual relationship, not exclusive but privileged." Within the hierarchy of household slaves, the concubinus seems to have been regarded as holding a special or elevated status that was threatened by the introduction of a wife..."
"...The relationship with a concubinus might be discreet or more open: male concubines sometimes attended dinner parties with the man whose companion they were] Martial even suggests that a prized concubinus might pass from father to son as an especially coveted inheritance. A military officer on campaign might be accompanied by a concubinus..."
"...Various ancient sources state that the emperor Nero celebrated two public weddings with men, once taking the role of the bride (with a freedman Pythagoras), and once the groom (with Sporus); there may have been a third in which he was the bride. The ceremonies included traditional elements such as a dowry and the wearing of the Roman bridal veil.In the early 3rd century AD, the emperor Elagabalus is reported to have been the bride in a wedding to his male partner...."
http://www.collegetermpapers.com/TermPapers/Ec/The_Value_of_Physical_Education_to_the_Ancient_Greeks_and_Romans.html
http://www.collegetermpapers.com/TermPapers/Ec/The_Value_of_Physical_Education_to_the_Ancient_Greeks_and_Romans.html
21 September 2016 05:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Contributions of ancient Rome to Western civilization include a republican form of government, the spread of Christianity and basic principles of architecture. In addition, the Latin language has had a far-reaching influence on modern languages, especially on English"
"The founders of the United States in large part designed their new government on the principles espoused in ancient Greece's democracy as well as ancient Rome's republicanism. From the Roman republic came the principle of a republican government which allows citizens to elect their leadership, which is in turn responsible to those citizens."
"..It was expected and socially acceptable for a freeborn Roman man to want sex with both female and male partners, as long as he took the penetrative role. The morality of the behavior depended on the social standing of the partner, not gender per se. Both women and young men were considered normal objects of desire, but outside marriage a man was supposed to act on his desires only with slaves, prostitutes (who were often slaves), and the infames. Gender did not determine whether a sexual partner was acceptable, as long as a man's enjoyment did not encroach on another man's integrity..."
":..The Sacred Band of Thebes, a separate military unit reserved only for men and their beloved, is usually considered the prime example of how the ancient Greeks used love between soldiers in a troop to boost their fighting spirit..."
https://www.reference.com/history/were-roman-contributions-western-civilization-c8175972e44e18e4
"The founders of the United States in large part designed their new government on the principles espoused in ancient Greece's democracy as well as ancient Rome's republicanism. From the Roman republic came the principle of a republican government which allows citizens to elect their leadership, which is in turn responsible to those citizens."
"..It was expected and socially acceptable for a freeborn Roman man to want sex with both female and male partners, as long as he took the penetrative role. The morality of the behavior depended on the social standing of the partner, not gender per se. Both women and young men were considered normal objects of desire, but outside marriage a man was supposed to act on his desires only with slaves, prostitutes (who were often slaves), and the infames. Gender did not determine whether a sexual partner was acceptable, as long as a man's enjoyment did not encroach on another man's integrity..."
":..The Sacred Band of Thebes, a separate military unit reserved only for men and their beloved, is usually considered the prime example of how the ancient Greeks used love between soldiers in a troop to boost their fighting spirit..."
https://www.reference.com/history/were-roman-contributions-western-civilization-c8175972e44e18e4
https://www.reference.com/history/were-roman-contributions-western-civilization-c8175972e44e18e4
21 September 2016 05:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Byzantium is the name given to both the state and the culture of the Eastern Roman Empire in the middle ages. Both the state and the inhabitants always called themselves Roman, as did most of their neighbors. Western Europeans, who had their own Roman Empire called them Orientals or Greeks... The composite nature of Byzantium. It was, without any doubt, the continuation of the Roman state, and until the seventh century"
// focus to main topic..
"...This active/passive polarization corresponded with dominant and submissive social roles: the active (penetrative) role was associated with masculinity, higher social status, and adulthood, while the passive role was associated with femininity, lower social status, and youth...."
"...The roots of Greek pederasty lie in the tribal past of Greece, before the rise of the city-state as a unit of political organization. These tribal communities were organized according to age groups. When it came time for a boy to embrace the age group of the adult and to "become a man," he would leave the tribe in the company of an older man for a period of time that constituted a rite of passage. This older man would educate the youth in the ways of Greek life and the responsibilities of adulthood..."
http://www.omnibusol.com/medieval.html
// focus to main topic..
"...This active/passive polarization corresponded with dominant and submissive social roles: the active (penetrative) role was associated with masculinity, higher social status, and adulthood, while the passive role was associated with femininity, lower social status, and youth...."
"...The roots of Greek pederasty lie in the tribal past of Greece, before the rise of the city-state as a unit of political organization. These tribal communities were organized according to age groups. When it came time for a boy to embrace the age group of the adult and to "become a man," he would leave the tribe in the company of an older man for a period of time that constituted a rite of passage. This older man would educate the youth in the ways of Greek life and the responsibilities of adulthood..."
http://www.omnibusol.com/medieval.html
http://www.omnibusol.com/medieval.html
21 September 2016 05:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Factory model school and factory model education are terms describing both a style of learning and of educational facilities. The educational style, or pedagogy, first emerged in Europe in the late 18th Century
Factory model school facilities are typified by the school design of the mid to late 20th century - the modern or international style of architecture typified by efficiency and uniformity, often resembling a factory building. The system has been described as being "designed to create docile subjects and factory workers.”
Factory model schools employ direct instruction methods: a teacher drilled information into the class in "assembly line fashion", the students learn by rote copying and memorization, and they are then tested on the information presented to them. This is also referred to as "sage on the stage" method.
The factory model method also features depersonalization, strict hierarchy of authority, uniformity over innovation, process and procedure, and standardization of curriculum, testing, class sizes, time periods, and learning rates. This approach has been compared to Taylorism, F. W. Taylor’s business model for efficiency
Factory model classrooms emerged in parallel with factory model education in the 19th century. These were designed around a lecture-style format of teaching, also known as direct instruction, with the teacher standing at the front of the classroom with the students seated in rows of desks, often fixed to the floor
As single-room schools became larger, this model was replicated, with the classrooms created as a series of boxes, often along a long double-loaded corridor (with classrooms on each side). This is a common feature of the most common organizational model, the departmental model, and also became known as "cells and bells"
Factory model schools have been criticized in several ways, including educational performance, student attendance, not preparing students for 21st century society, aesthetics, inspiration,.
21st century skills such as collaboration, creativity, and critical thinking are not supported as effectively by direct instruction as by methods that employ active learning or by inflexible, standardized classrooms.
Designs that are unattractive, difficult to maintain, and uninspiring are not conducive to healthy or inviting environments for students or teachers.
Society, the workplace, and technology changed significantly over the past few decades yet the majority of classrooms in North America have not significantly changed since the late 19th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory_model_school
Factory model school facilities are typified by the school design of the mid to late 20th century - the modern or international style of architecture typified by efficiency and uniformity, often resembling a factory building. The system has been described as being "designed to create docile subjects and factory workers.”
Factory model schools employ direct instruction methods: a teacher drilled information into the class in "assembly line fashion", the students learn by rote copying and memorization, and they are then tested on the information presented to them. This is also referred to as "sage on the stage" method.
The factory model method also features depersonalization, strict hierarchy of authority, uniformity over innovation, process and procedure, and standardization of curriculum, testing, class sizes, time periods, and learning rates. This approach has been compared to Taylorism, F. W. Taylor’s business model for efficiency
Factory model classrooms emerged in parallel with factory model education in the 19th century. These were designed around a lecture-style format of teaching, also known as direct instruction, with the teacher standing at the front of the classroom with the students seated in rows of desks, often fixed to the floor
As single-room schools became larger, this model was replicated, with the classrooms created as a series of boxes, often along a long double-loaded corridor (with classrooms on each side). This is a common feature of the most common organizational model, the departmental model, and also became known as "cells and bells"
Factory model schools have been criticized in several ways, including educational performance, student attendance, not preparing students for 21st century society, aesthetics, inspiration,.
21st century skills such as collaboration, creativity, and critical thinking are not supported as effectively by direct instruction as by methods that employ active learning or by inflexible, standardized classrooms.
Designs that are unattractive, difficult to maintain, and uninspiring are not conducive to healthy or inviting environments for students or teachers.
Society, the workplace, and technology changed significantly over the past few decades yet the majority of classrooms in North America have not significantly changed since the late 19th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory_model_school
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory_model_school
21 September 2016 05:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Education in ancient Rome influenced the development of educational systems throughout Western civilization. In the span of a few centuries, Rome went from an informal system of education in which knowledge was passed from parents to children, to a specialized, tiered system of schools inspired by Greek educational practices. Rome's rise to the status of world power ensured the perpetuation of its methodology and curriculum throughout the provinces it ruled."
"..In classical antiquity, writers such as Herodotus, Plato, Xenophon, Athenaeus and many others explored aspects of same-sex love in ancient Greece. The most widespread and socially significant form of same-sex sexual relations in ancient Greece was between adult men and pubescent or adolescent boys, known as pederasty ..."
"..Sexual conquest was a common metaphor for imperialism in Roman discourse, and the "conquest mentality" was part of a "cult of virility" that particularly shaped Roman homosexual practices. Roman ideals of masculinity were thus premised on taking an active role that was also, as Craig A. Williams has noted, "the prime directive of masculine sexual behavior for Romans." In the late 20th and early 21st centuries, scholars have tended to view expressions of Roman male sexuality in terms of a "penetrator-penetrated" binary model; that is, the proper way for a Roman male to seek sexual gratification was to insert his penis in his partner.."
"...The ancient Greeks did not conceive of sexual orientation as a social identifier as modern Western societies have done. Greek society did not distinguish sexual desire or behavior by the gender of the participants, but rather by the role that each participant played in the sex act, that of active penetrator or passive penetrated..."
http://www.crystalinks.com/romeducation.html
"..In classical antiquity, writers such as Herodotus, Plato, Xenophon, Athenaeus and many others explored aspects of same-sex love in ancient Greece. The most widespread and socially significant form of same-sex sexual relations in ancient Greece was between adult men and pubescent or adolescent boys, known as pederasty ..."
"..Sexual conquest was a common metaphor for imperialism in Roman discourse, and the "conquest mentality" was part of a "cult of virility" that particularly shaped Roman homosexual practices. Roman ideals of masculinity were thus premised on taking an active role that was also, as Craig A. Williams has noted, "the prime directive of masculine sexual behavior for Romans." In the late 20th and early 21st centuries, scholars have tended to view expressions of Roman male sexuality in terms of a "penetrator-penetrated" binary model; that is, the proper way for a Roman male to seek sexual gratification was to insert his penis in his partner.."
"...The ancient Greeks did not conceive of sexual orientation as a social identifier as modern Western societies have done. Greek society did not distinguish sexual desire or behavior by the gender of the participants, but rather by the role that each participant played in the sex act, that of active penetrator or passive penetrated..."
http://www.crystalinks.com/romeducation.html
http://www.crystalinks.com/romeducation.html
21 September 2016 04:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Traditional Western Culture is said to have been created by three main historical factors: ancient Greece, the Roman Empire, and Christianity. As such, it is also known by the terms "Greco-Roman culture", " Judeo-Christian culture", or "Judeo-Hellenic-Christian culture"."
Ancient Greece has had an enormous amount of impact on culture in the western world.
"...The most common form of same-sex relationships between males in Greece was "paiderastia" (pederastry) meaning "boy love"..."
"..The Roman soldier, like any free and respectable Roman male of status, was expected to show self-discipline in matters of sex. Augustus (reigned 27 BC–14 AD) even prohibited soldiers from marrying, a ban that remained in force for the Imperial army for nearly two centuries.[143] Other forms of sexual gratification available to soldiers were prostitutes of any gender, male slaves, war rape, and same-sex relations...."
"...The age limit for pederasty in ancient Greece seems to encompass, at the minimum end, boys of twelve years of age. To love a boy below the age of twelve was considered inappropriate, but no evidence exists of any legal penalties attached to this sort of practice..."
http://www.conservapedia.com/Greek_influence_on_Western_Culture
Ancient Greece has had an enormous amount of impact on culture in the western world.
"...The most common form of same-sex relationships between males in Greece was "paiderastia" (pederastry) meaning "boy love"..."
"..The Roman soldier, like any free and respectable Roman male of status, was expected to show self-discipline in matters of sex. Augustus (reigned 27 BC–14 AD) even prohibited soldiers from marrying, a ban that remained in force for the Imperial army for nearly two centuries.[143] Other forms of sexual gratification available to soldiers were prostitutes of any gender, male slaves, war rape, and same-sex relations...."
"...The age limit for pederasty in ancient Greece seems to encompass, at the minimum end, boys of twelve years of age. To love a boy below the age of twelve was considered inappropriate, but no evidence exists of any legal penalties attached to this sort of practice..."
http://www.conservapedia.com/Greek_influence_on_Western_Culture
http://www.conservapedia.com/Greek_influence_on_Western_Culture
21 September 2016 04:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Due to the extent of Rome's power, the methodology and curriculum used in Rome was copied in its provinces, and thereby proved the basis for education systems throughout later Western civilization."
"...The ancient Greeks, in the context of the pederastic city-states, were the first to describe, study, systematize, and establish pederasty as a social and educational institution. It was an important element in civil life, the military, philosophy and the arts.[8] There is some debate among scholars about whether pederasty was widespread in all social classes, or largely limited to the aristocracy..."
"Roman society was patriarchal (see paterfamilias), and masculinity was premised on a capacity for governing oneself and others of lower status"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_ancient_Rome#Moral_education
"...The ancient Greeks, in the context of the pederastic city-states, were the first to describe, study, systematize, and establish pederasty as a social and educational institution. It was an important element in civil life, the military, philosophy and the arts.[8] There is some debate among scholars about whether pederasty was widespread in all social classes, or largely limited to the aristocracy..."
"Roman society was patriarchal (see paterfamilias), and masculinity was premised on a capacity for governing oneself and others of lower status"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_ancient_Rome#Moral_education
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_ancient_Rome#Moral_education
21 September 2016 04:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
(Read Reply's under that)
Even the shaved Vatican holds high the Mary and FSB (Russia) Ortodox Right Belief (Õige Usk) colors his main church PINK as our Estonian Goverment is.. so should be easy to see...
old failed Roman-Greek shaved Empire Pederasty type of Patriarchy, as something that should be exchanged to ReaLLity, to Life
asap
"...very few fragments of anything that might have been written by women survived. Male writers took little interest in how women experienced sexuality in general..."
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/12/27/feminism-responsible-for-the-fall-of-rome/
Even the shaved Vatican holds high the Mary and FSB (Russia) Ortodox Right Belief (Õige Usk) colors his main church PINK as our Estonian Goverment is.. so should be easy to see...
old failed Roman-Greek shaved Empire Pederasty type of Patriarchy, as something that should be exchanged to ReaLLity, to Life
asap
"...very few fragments of anything that might have been written by women survived. Male writers took little interest in how women experienced sexuality in general..."
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/12/27/feminism-responsible-for-the-fall-of-rome/
21 September 2016 04:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"The B'nai Yashua Synagogues Worldwide,
a Messianic group headed by Rabbi Moshe Koniuchowsky, holds to the feminine view of the Holy Spirit.
Messianic Judaism is considered by most Christians and Jews to be a form of Christianity.
There are also some other independent Messianic groups with similar teachings.
Some examples include Joy In the World;
The Torah and Testimony Revealed;
Messianic Judaism - The Torah and the Testimony Revealed;
and he Union of Nazarene Jewish Congregations/Synagogues,
who also count as canonical the Gospel of the Hebrews which has the unique feature of referring to the Holy Spirit as Jesus' Mother....
// Yeah, u know.. just some "small" ones, like almoust all mayor branches that are still connected to real teachings and acient actual teachings most direct way, as Nazarene's, Jews-Hebrews ...
Yeah, "small" as with all the effort, all of them have not been able to eliminate,even with communist and other Roman Empire innovations that should have done the job... but these homos lacked the wisdom, wonder why no more..
http://www.stanneshrine.com/about/our-patroness/
a Messianic group headed by Rabbi Moshe Koniuchowsky, holds to the feminine view of the Holy Spirit.
Messianic Judaism is considered by most Christians and Jews to be a form of Christianity.
There are also some other independent Messianic groups with similar teachings.
Some examples include Joy In the World;
The Torah and Testimony Revealed;
Messianic Judaism - The Torah and the Testimony Revealed;
and he Union of Nazarene Jewish Congregations/Synagogues,
who also count as canonical the Gospel of the Hebrews which has the unique feature of referring to the Holy Spirit as Jesus' Mother....
// Yeah, u know.. just some "small" ones, like almoust all mayor branches that are still connected to real teachings and acient actual teachings most direct way, as Nazarene's, Jews-Hebrews ...
Yeah, "small" as with all the effort, all of them have not been able to eliminate,even with communist and other Roman Empire innovations that should have done the job... but these homos lacked the wisdom, wonder why no more..
http://www.stanneshrine.com/about/our-patroness/
21 September 2016 03:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ha-Ha "some small Christian groups" ... (read next comment also)
"Some small Christian groups regard the gender of the Holy Spirit to be female, based on their understanding that the Hebrew word for Spirit, ruach, is feminine. Their views derive from skepticism toward Greek primacy for the New Testament.[clarification needed] Foremost among these groups, and the most vocal on the subject are the Branch Davidian Seventh-day Adventists "
www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm
// Yea wonder what that picture might mean no longer..
"Some small Christian groups regard the gender of the Holy Spirit to be female, based on their understanding that the Hebrew word for Spirit, ruach, is feminine. Their views derive from skepticism toward Greek primacy for the New Testament.[clarification needed] Foremost among these groups, and the most vocal on the subject are the Branch Davidian Seventh-day Adventists "
www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm
// Yea wonder what that picture might mean no longer..
21 September 2016 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on Nkoriki Joseph's post.
let us be safe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_sin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_sin
21 September 2016 03:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But these are rather hars tools, to clean out perhaps walls, but msuhrooms are needed also
Any scientist who talks scientse but does not mention truth, about most important, is rather just a number maker
Any scientist who talks scientse but does not mention truth, about most important, is rather just a number maker
21 September 2016 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on Nkoriki Joseph's post.
So only thingsthese scientist now have to figure out, are all experience and structure, life and thought forms made of electrons and will there be any quarantee, that these will have to have anything to do with human experience, after yotta years,
or how can we make sure to make so (to preserve man mind) if that is needed, or allowed, or Fine by God or Women maker. (no need to preserve, if She does not need Us anymore, or when our task completes in united, cleaned love and rendering us for longer would rather jepardise All that again in some potential way. She knows how to re-make us and Herself in many ways, when needed.. just we gotta learn to feel, when What is directing us in whatever way.. eg. when it is our own perverted imagination version of anti-life and when that what we feel IS actually Life, so strongly, that we can be So sure, to crab Her hand and say "No" knowing for sure, that this is Her ultimate wish, this what, how we do and react to, the desire, will, order of Holy Spirit )
.:.
The Spirit Molecule
DMT: The Spirit Molecule
【L.S.D.】 League of Spiritual Discovery
or how can we make sure to make so (to preserve man mind) if that is needed, or allowed, or Fine by God or Women maker. (no need to preserve, if She does not need Us anymore, or when our task completes in united, cleaned love and rendering us for longer would rather jepardise All that again in some potential way. She knows how to re-make us and Herself in many ways, when needed.. just we gotta learn to feel, when What is directing us in whatever way.. eg. when it is our own perverted imagination version of anti-life and when that what we feel IS actually Life, so strongly, that we can be So sure, to crab Her hand and say "No" knowing for sure, that this is Her ultimate wish, this what, how we do and react to, the desire, will, order of Holy Spirit )
.:.
The Spirit Molecule
DMT: The Spirit Molecule
【L.S.D.】 League of Spiritual Discovery
21 September 2016 03:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
am reall should re-figure how to write down these explenations, from the third eye, eg. from the outside of 'mind universe' and outside the world that makes the Minds,
point of view..
point of view..
21 September 2016 03:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oh, injected, and re-assembled in here with what is here also, so if we wish, we Can perhaps assing as "us" also the New, what happened inside that universe (the one what is made between the minds or the ones that where many of us are stored, for stable imaginations..)
21 September 2016 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on Nkoriki Joseph's post.
Jup, thats elementary, as we was not invented inside, that universe, but injected in to here, assembled, for the Task.
The task of correction.
But we ourself, should perhaps keep humble enought, not to assing the parts of our electrons, as our own but rather for ours to use, also.
Specially the methods that makes all that work between ourself and else
The task of correction.
But we ourself, should perhaps keep humble enought, not to assing the parts of our electrons, as our own but rather for ours to use, also.
Specially the methods that makes all that work between ourself and else
21 September 2016 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on Nkoriki Joseph's post.
Jup, lets keep that in heart : )
21 September 2016 02:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja veel:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskTechnology/comments/200sfi/why_is_4k_resolution_3840_x_2160_not_called_2k/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskTechnology/comments/200sfi/why_is_4k_resolution_3840_x_2160_not_called_2k/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskTechnology/comments/200sfi/why_is_4k_resolution_3840_x_2160_not_called_2k/
20 September 2016 03:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Siin ekraanist juttu, kuid jutt ise oli hea, seega lisan selle ka:
https://www.cnet.com/news/phones-with-ultra-high-resolution-4k-screens-are-serious-overkill/
https://www.cnet.com/news/phones-with-ultra-high-resolution-4k-screens-are-serious-overkill/
https://www.cnet.com/news/phones-with-ultra-high-resolution-4k-screens-are-serious-overkill/
20 September 2016 03:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
When planning an upgrade to a 4K capable camera, the first question to ask yourself is: “Will you also need to take still images?”. If the answer is ‘yes’, go for a mirrorless or DSLR camera. If you only intend to record video, with occasional still photography – a 4K camcorder will be your ideal (and cheapest) option.
In our guide of the cheapest 4K cameras – we break the list of available devices into three categories – Camcorders, Mirrorless and Action cams.
If you want to skip our analysis, and get straight to which model is best for your 4k video camera – check out each category in the table.
Mirrorless cameras are one of the cheapest ways to buy a 4K camera. Generally priced between $500 – $1500, they take high quality pictures and 4K video recording is excellent. Camcorders are priced in the $1500 range, and still offer one of the cheapest ways to get a 4K camera
http://www.pickmycamera.net/cheapest-4k-camera/
In our guide of the cheapest 4K cameras – we break the list of available devices into three categories – Camcorders, Mirrorless and Action cams.
If you want to skip our analysis, and get straight to which model is best for your 4k video camera – check out each category in the table.
Mirrorless cameras are one of the cheapest ways to buy a 4K camera. Generally priced between $500 – $1500, they take high quality pictures and 4K video recording is excellent. Camcorders are priced in the $1500 range, and still offer one of the cheapest ways to get a 4K camera
http://www.pickmycamera.net/cheapest-4k-camera/
http://www.pickmycamera.net/cheapest-4k-camera/
20 September 2016 03:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"There's just one problem: We don't find 4K necessarily beneficial on a 65-inch TV, so it stands to reason it'll be even less meaningful on a 5.5-inch phone screen.
4K specifies a screen with four times the number of pixels as standard HDTV and phone screens, which have 1080p resolution. A pixel is a block of light that makes up the display's smallest unit of white or color. Think of a pixel as a brick in the wall that is the screen.
4K doesn't always live up to its promise of super-crisp resolution and crystal clear detail even on a really big TV. We've spent many hours over the last couple of years directly comparing 65-inch 4K TVs to their 65-inch 1080p counterparts. The TVs were compared from very close seating distances, between 7 and 8 feet away. That's quite a bit closer than most owners of big TVs sit, and on the brink of too close for comfort for many people.
Despite sitting so close to all the extra pixels in the 4K TV's panel, in most scenes we didn't notice any difference at all. What details did pop out were small improvements in close-ups (say, on a blade of grass or flower pollen caught on a bee's leg) from the very best, carefully curated footage used to demonstrate 4K's resolution advantage.
The best example of 4K's resolution we've seen was on very big screens. Sitting about 9 feet from a 120-inch screen, we compared a 4K projector (also a Sony, for what it's worth) to a pair of units with 1080p resolution. In most movies we watched the differences were nonexistent, but in one we actually did see a bit of extra sharpness. So yes, with absolutely gigantic screens, 4K makes more sense.
https://www.cnet.com/news/phones-with-ultra-high-resolution-4k-screens-are-serious-overkill/
4K specifies a screen with four times the number of pixels as standard HDTV and phone screens, which have 1080p resolution. A pixel is a block of light that makes up the display's smallest unit of white or color. Think of a pixel as a brick in the wall that is the screen.
4K doesn't always live up to its promise of super-crisp resolution and crystal clear detail even on a really big TV. We've spent many hours over the last couple of years directly comparing 65-inch 4K TVs to their 65-inch 1080p counterparts. The TVs were compared from very close seating distances, between 7 and 8 feet away. That's quite a bit closer than most owners of big TVs sit, and on the brink of too close for comfort for many people.
Despite sitting so close to all the extra pixels in the 4K TV's panel, in most scenes we didn't notice any difference at all. What details did pop out were small improvements in close-ups (say, on a blade of grass or flower pollen caught on a bee's leg) from the very best, carefully curated footage used to demonstrate 4K's resolution advantage.
The best example of 4K's resolution we've seen was on very big screens. Sitting about 9 feet from a 120-inch screen, we compared a 4K projector (also a Sony, for what it's worth) to a pair of units with 1080p resolution. In most movies we watched the differences were nonexistent, but in one we actually did see a bit of extra sharpness. So yes, with absolutely gigantic screens, 4K makes more sense.
https://www.cnet.com/news/phones-with-ultra-high-resolution-4k-screens-are-serious-overkill/
https://www.cnet.com/news/phones-with-ultra-high-resolution-4k-screens-are-serious-overkill/
20 September 2016 03:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
4k Cameras, 120 phones with 4k,
(ak kvaliteet 60 freimi sekund on 711 megabyti, ehk siis yks sekund seda filmi mis nende kaameratega teha saab, on samasuur kui alles hiljuti põhi kvaliteediga täispikk film)
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Camera/4K+video
(ak kvaliteet 60 freimi sekund on 711 megabyti, ehk siis yks sekund seda filmi mis nende kaameratega teha saab, on samasuur kui alles hiljuti põhi kvaliteediga täispikk film)
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Camera/4K+video
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Camera/4K+video
20 September 2016 02:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This camera is UHDTV which stands for Ultra-high-definition television and includes both 4K UHD (2160p) and 8K UHD (4320p). According to The Japan Ministry of Internal Affairs & Communications, test broadcasts of 4K/8K via satellite television will start at the 2016 Olympic and Paralympic Games in Rio de Janerio. This will be followed by 8K on-air broadcasting starting in 2018 in Japan - See more at: https://www.videouniversity.com/first-8k-handheld-camera/#sthash.O0cuBA7m.dpuf
There are a number of predictions that 8K will never become a standard because vector based video will soon make pixels obsolete. More about this later. Could this be the first and the last 8K handheld camera?
Single 33 million-pixel Super 35 CMOS sensor
4,000 TVL horizontal and vertical resolution
A System Expander that permits the use of large viewfinders and studio lenses converting the handheld camera into a studio camera.
PL-Lens mount accepts 8K lenses, cine lenses, 4K lenses and custom-designed zoom lenses for single-chip SHV cameras.
A flange-back adjustment system is built-in, enabling back focus adjustment of PL-mount lenses without shims.
- See more at: https://www.videouniversity.com/first-8k-handheld-camera/#sthash.O0cuBA7m.dpuf
https://www.videouniversity.com/first-8k-handheld-camera/
There are a number of predictions that 8K will never become a standard because vector based video will soon make pixels obsolete. More about this later. Could this be the first and the last 8K handheld camera?
Single 33 million-pixel Super 35 CMOS sensor
4,000 TVL horizontal and vertical resolution
A System Expander that permits the use of large viewfinders and studio lenses converting the handheld camera into a studio camera.
PL-Lens mount accepts 8K lenses, cine lenses, 4K lenses and custom-designed zoom lenses for single-chip SHV cameras.
A flange-back adjustment system is built-in, enabling back focus adjustment of PL-mount lenses without shims.
- See more at: https://www.videouniversity.com/first-8k-handheld-camera/#sthash.O0cuBA7m.dpuf
https://www.videouniversity.com/first-8k-handheld-camera/
https://www.videouniversity.com/first-8k-handheld-camera/#sthash.O0cuBA7m.dpuf
20 September 2016 02:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://opus.bath.ac.uk/32970/
We address the problem of representing captured images in the continuous mathematical space more usually associated with certain forms of drawn (vector) images. Such an image is resolution-independent so can be used as a master for varying resolution-specific formats. We briefly describe the main features of a vectorising codec for photographic images, whose significance is that drawing programs can access images and image components as first-class vector objects. This paper focuses on the problem of rendering from the isochromic contour form of a vectorised image and demonstrates a new fill algorithm which could also be used in drawing generally. The fill method is described in terms of level set diffusion equations for clarity. Finally we show that image warping is both simplified and enhanced in the vector form and that we can demonstrate real histogram equalisation with genuinely rectangular histograms straightforwardly.
Details
Item Type Articles
Creators Patterson, J. W., Taylor, C. D. and Willis, P. J.
Departments Faculty of Science > Computer Science
Research Centres Media Technology Research Centre
Publisher Statement Willis_JVRB_2012_9_3.pdf: This paper has been published under the Digital Peer Publishing Licence DPPL. JVRB uses the English 2.0 version of this licence
Refereed Yes
Status Published
ID Code 32970
Additional Information First presented at the International Conference of Human and Computer 2004, extended and revised for JVRB
We address the problem of representing captured images in the continuous mathematical space more usually associated with certain forms of drawn (vector) images. Such an image is resolution-independent so can be used as a master for varying resolution-specific formats. We briefly describe the main features of a vectorising codec for photographic images, whose significance is that drawing programs can access images and image components as first-class vector objects. This paper focuses on the problem of rendering from the isochromic contour form of a vectorised image and demonstrates a new fill algorithm which could also be used in drawing generally. The fill method is described in terms of level set diffusion equations for clarity. Finally we show that image warping is both simplified and enhanced in the vector form and that we can demonstrate real histogram equalisation with genuinely rectangular histograms straightforwardly.
Details
Item Type Articles
Creators Patterson, J. W., Taylor, C. D. and Willis, P. J.
Departments Faculty of Science > Computer Science
Research Centres Media Technology Research Centre
Publisher Statement Willis_JVRB_2012_9_3.pdf: This paper has been published under the Digital Peer Publishing Licence DPPL. JVRB uses the English 2.0 version of this licence
Refereed Yes
Status Published
ID Code 32970
Additional Information First presented at the International Conference of Human and Computer 2004, extended and revised for JVRB
http://opus.bath.ac.uk/32970/
20 September 2016 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Unlike bitmap pixel images, vector shapes can be scaled up with no loss of quality, since the mathematics behind vectors simply defines the point-to-point coordinates of an object. One example of existing vector based images is the typeface on a computer – when a font scales up it doesn’t become pixelated.
Indeed before it has even begun, 4K may become obsolete along with resolution itself – killed not by 8K or Super-Hi Vision but a completely different kind of technology. A vector based video codec has been developed at the University of Bath.
Until now vectors have been good at wireframe objects but not photorealism. The team at Bath have developed a new photo realistic fill method to ‘paint’ in the areas defined by the vectors.
The codec uses a lot of complex mathematics and is likely very CPU intensive compared to bitmap pixel based codecs like H.264, but I can see it coming to video cameras in the future. Imagine having an image where resolution is basically a none-issue and a codec which takes up the same amount of space whether delivering a VGA image or a 8K image.
The question is – could a new type of image sensor technology be developed to ‘see’ in vectors, to generate vectors from light onboard the sensor itself? That could be the future. My guess is that it is still very early days for vector imaging technology. I expect the commercial demand for this early codec to be based around web video and streaming TV on demand – I doubt that the first version will deliver the quality of H.264 but it may be able to deliver video at very low data rates over the internet.
http://www.eoshd.com/2013/02/pixels-to-be-superseded-by-vector-technology-in-new-video-codec/
or... biological
Indeed before it has even begun, 4K may become obsolete along with resolution itself – killed not by 8K or Super-Hi Vision but a completely different kind of technology. A vector based video codec has been developed at the University of Bath.
Until now vectors have been good at wireframe objects but not photorealism. The team at Bath have developed a new photo realistic fill method to ‘paint’ in the areas defined by the vectors.
The codec uses a lot of complex mathematics and is likely very CPU intensive compared to bitmap pixel based codecs like H.264, but I can see it coming to video cameras in the future. Imagine having an image where resolution is basically a none-issue and a codec which takes up the same amount of space whether delivering a VGA image or a 8K image.
The question is – could a new type of image sensor technology be developed to ‘see’ in vectors, to generate vectors from light onboard the sensor itself? That could be the future. My guess is that it is still very early days for vector imaging technology. I expect the commercial demand for this early codec to be based around web video and streaming TV on demand – I doubt that the first version will deliver the quality of H.264 but it may be able to deliver video at very low data rates over the internet.
http://www.eoshd.com/2013/02/pixels-to-be-superseded-by-vector-technology-in-new-video-codec/
or... biological
http://www.eoshd.com/2013/02/pixels-to-be-superseded-by-vector-technology-in-new-video-codec/
20 September 2016 02:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
A Novel Approach for Detection of Motion Vector-Based Video Steganography by AoSO Motion Vector Value
Although tremendous progress has been made on steganography in last decade but still there exist problems to detect the steganalysis in motion-based video where the content is consistently is in motion behavior which creates hurdles to detect it. The motion value plays a crucial role in analyzing the difference between the rated, which allows us to focus on the difference between the actual SAD and the locally optimal SAD after the adding or subtracting one operation on the motion value. Finally, to perform the classification and extraction process-based motion vectors, two feature sets are been used to complete this process based on the fact that most motion vectors are locally optimal for most video codecs. The proposed method succeeds to meet the application requirement and simultaneously succeed in detecting the steganalysis in videos compared to conventional approaches reported in the literature.
http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-981-10-0419-3_27
Although tremendous progress has been made on steganography in last decade but still there exist problems to detect the steganalysis in motion-based video where the content is consistently is in motion behavior which creates hurdles to detect it. The motion value plays a crucial role in analyzing the difference between the rated, which allows us to focus on the difference between the actual SAD and the locally optimal SAD after the adding or subtracting one operation on the motion value. Finally, to perform the classification and extraction process-based motion vectors, two feature sets are been used to complete this process based on the fact that most motion vectors are locally optimal for most video codecs. The proposed method succeeds to meet the application requirement and simultaneously succeed in detecting the steganalysis in videos compared to conventional approaches reported in the literature.
http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-981-10-0419-3_27
http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-981-10-0419-3_27
20 September 2016 02:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
multiresolution analysis, vector quantization , video codecs, Electrical engineering. Electronics Nuclear engineering, Hardware and Architecture, Media Technology, Software, Computer Networks and Communications
Subjects: Technology > Electrical engineering. Electronics Nuclear engineering
Subjects: Technology > Electrical engineering. Electronics Nuclear engineering
20 September 2016 02:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.cs.bath.ac.uk/vsv/contour.mov Vector video
http://www.cs.bath.ac.uk/vsv/contour.mov
20 September 2016 02:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
On the left: image re-created from contours. On the right: contours representing the video.
Right-click-View or -Save the image to view at high definition
Researchers launching a new vector-based video codec this week are claiming their work will lead to the death of the pixel within the next five years
Read the full story in the News Release December 11th 2012.
http://www.cs.bath.ac.uk/vsv/
Right-click-View or -Save the image to view at high definition
Researchers launching a new vector-based video codec this week are claiming their work will lead to the death of the pixel within the next five years
Read the full story in the News Release December 11th 2012.
http://www.cs.bath.ac.uk/vsv/
http://www.cs.bath.ac.uk/vsv/
20 September 2016 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Abstract
Steganalysis is the art of detecting the information hidden in the media using steganography. In this paper, a steganalytic method is proposed to detect information hidden in the motion vectors of video bit-streams. Based on the statistical analysis of relative properties, the feature classification technique is adopted to determine the existence of hidden messages. The Support Vector Machine (SVM) is used as the discriminator. The experimental results show that the proposed method can detect the hidden data effectively in motion-vector-based steganography algorithms.
Keywords
Video steganalysis; Steganography; Motion vector; SVM
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0165168411000685
Steganalysis is the art of detecting the information hidden in the media using steganography. In this paper, a steganalytic method is proposed to detect information hidden in the motion vectors of video bit-streams. Based on the statistical analysis of relative properties, the feature classification technique is adopted to determine the existence of hidden messages. The Support Vector Machine (SVM) is used as the discriminator. The experimental results show that the proposed method can detect the hidden data effectively in motion-vector-based steganography algorithms.
Keywords
Video steganalysis; Steganography; Motion vector; SVM
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0165168411000685
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0165168411000685
20 September 2016 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
2012
Researchers launching a new vector-based video codec are claiming their work will lead to the death of the pixel within the next five years.
The team behind the project, consisting of the University, Root6 Technology, Smoke & Mirrors and Ovation Data Services - are now looking for industry buy-in to the research to expand its potential applications. The codec was launched at the CVMP 9th European Conference on Visual Media Production held at Vue Cinema in Leicester Square, London.
A new vector-based video codec could signal the end of the pixel.
A new vector-based video codec developed at Bath may signal the death of the pixel.
Digital pictures are built from a rectangular grid of coloured cells, or pixels. The smaller and closer the pixels are together, the better the quality of the image. So pixel-based movies need huge amounts of data and have to be compressed, losing visual quality. They are also difficult to process.
The alternative, a vector-based format, presents the image using contoured colours. Until now there has not been a way to fill in between the colours at the quality needed for professional use. The Bath team has finally solved this problem.
A codec is a computer programme capable of encoding or decoding a digital video stream. The researchers at Bath have developed a new, highly sophisticated codec, which is able to fill between the contours, overcoming the problems previously preventing their widespread use. The result is a resolution-independent form of movie and image, capable of the highest visual quality but without a pixel in sight.
http://www.bath.ac.uk/news/2012/12/11/pixel-die/
Researchers launching a new vector-based video codec are claiming their work will lead to the death of the pixel within the next five years.
The team behind the project, consisting of the University, Root6 Technology, Smoke & Mirrors and Ovation Data Services - are now looking for industry buy-in to the research to expand its potential applications. The codec was launched at the CVMP 9th European Conference on Visual Media Production held at Vue Cinema in Leicester Square, London.
A new vector-based video codec could signal the end of the pixel.
A new vector-based video codec developed at Bath may signal the death of the pixel.
Digital pictures are built from a rectangular grid of coloured cells, or pixels. The smaller and closer the pixels are together, the better the quality of the image. So pixel-based movies need huge amounts of data and have to be compressed, losing visual quality. They are also difficult to process.
The alternative, a vector-based format, presents the image using contoured colours. Until now there has not been a way to fill in between the colours at the quality needed for professional use. The Bath team has finally solved this problem.
A codec is a computer programme capable of encoding or decoding a digital video stream. The researchers at Bath have developed a new, highly sophisticated codec, which is able to fill between the contours, overcoming the problems previously preventing their widespread use. The result is a resolution-independent form of movie and image, capable of the highest visual quality but without a pixel in sight.
http://www.bath.ac.uk/news/2012/12/11/pixel-die/
http://www.bath.ac.uk/news/2012/12/11/pixel-die/
20 September 2016 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"This paper presents a novel Multiresolution, Perceptual and Vector Quantization (MPVQ) based video coding scheme. In the intra-frame mode of operation, a wavelet transform is applied to the input frame and decorrelates it into its frequency subbands. The coefficients in each detail subband are pixel quantized using a uniform quantization factor divided by the perceptual weighting factor of that subband. The quantized coefficients are finally coded using a quadtree-coding algorithm. Perceptual weights are specifically calculated for the centre of each detail subband. In the inter-frame mode of operation, a Displaced Frame Difference (DFD) is first generated using an overlapped block motion estimation/compensation technique. A wavelet transform is then applied on the DFD and converts it into its frequency subbands. The detail subbands are finally vector quantized using an Adaptive Vector Quantization (AVQ) scheme. To evaluate the performance of the proposed codec, the proposed codec and the adaptive subband vector quantization coding scheme (ASVQ), which has been shown to outperform H.263 at all bitrates, were applied to six test sequences. Experimental results indicate that the proposed codec outperforms the ASVQ subjectively and objectively at all bit rates.
http://strathprints.strath.ac.uk/33226/
http://strathprints.strath.ac.uk/33226/
http://strathprints.strath.ac.uk/33226/
20 September 2016 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to Marko Karin's comment.
õnneks nüüd edasi arenenud, normaalsusest
(minut 14)
https://youtu.be/5YkkqjPNtBw?t=14m7s
(minut 14)
https://youtu.be/5YkkqjPNtBw?t=14m7s
20 September 2016 01:33
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
ja neile mõnele märguanne, kellele vaja võis olla
20 September 2016 01:16
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
endale meeldetuletus
20 September 2016 01:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
EESTI KROON II
Esimest korda avaldati mõte Eesti oma raha kasutuselevõtust 1987. aasta isemajandava Eesti ehk IME projektis, mille autorid olid Siim Kallas, Tiit Made, Edgar Savisaar ja Mikk Titma. Ametlikult võeti kurss oma rahale 18. mail 1989, mil allkirjastati seadus „Eesti NSV isemajandamise alused”. 15. detsembril 1989 võttis Eesti NSV Ülemnõukogu vastu otsuse taasasutada Eesti Pank 1. jaanuaril 1990.
Ülemnõukogu otsusega moodustati 27. märtsil 1991 rahareformi komitee, mille pädevuses oli kõikide rahareformiga seotud küsimuste üle otsustamine. Sinna kuulusid valitsusjuht, Eesti Panga president ja sõltumatu ekspert. Rahareformi komitee 17. juuni 1992. aasta dekreedi „Rahareformi läbiviimisest” kohaselt muutus alates sama aasta 20. juunist kella neljast hommikul ainsaks seaduslikuks maksevahendiks Eesti kroon.
Eesti Vabariigi pangatäht 1 kroon 1992 tagakülg
Eesti Vabariigi pangatäht 1 kroon 1992 tagakülg
Eesti rahasüsteem põhines valuutakomitee süsteemil, mis tähendas seda, et krooni kurss oli seotud jäigalt ankurvaluutaga. Rahareformist kuni 31. detsembrini 2001 oli krooni kurss fikseeritud Saksa marga suhtes vahekorras 8 Eesti krooni = 1 Saksa mark, seejärel oli krooni kurss fikseeritud euro suhtes 15,6466 Eesti krooni = 1 euro (seni kehtinud kurss).
Kroonipangatähtede ja -müntide kujunduse leidmiseks kuulutas Eesti NSV Ministrite Nõukogu detsembris 1989 välja avaliku konkursi. Konkursi tulemusel kujundas 1- ja 2-kroonised pangatähed Urmas Ploomipuu ning ülejäänud nimiväärtused Vladimir Taiger. 1- ja 2-kroonised trükiti Ameerika Ühendriikides, suurema nimiväärtusega pangatähed Inglismaal. Viimased, uuendatud seeriad lasti trükkida Saksamaal.
Eesti Vabariigi pangatäht 100 krooni 1992
Eesti Vabariigi pangatäht 100 krooni 1992
Mündikavandite konkursi tulemusel kavandas müntide esialgsed eskiisid Mari Käbin, kuid seoses Eesti Vabariigi nime ja sümbolite taaskasutuselevõtuga muutusid ka müntide vermimise nõuded. Esialgsete kavandite järgi jõuti vermida proovimündid rukkilille kujutise ja aastaarvuga 1991. Lõpuks vermiti kõik mündid 1936. aasta müntide eeskujul: esiküljel kolm leopardina kujutatud lõvi ja aastaarv ning tagaküljel riigi nimi ja nimiväärtus. Müntidele vermitud vapilõvi modelleeris skulptor Arseni Mölder ning mündiväljale sobitas need kunstnik Ants Raud. Mündid vermiti algul Tallinnas, hiljem Soomes, Lõuna-Aafrika Vabariigis, Inglismaal, Prantsusmaal, Madalmaades ja Saksamaal.
Mitmete oluliste tähtpäevade ja -sündmuste jäädvustamiseks lasi Eesti Pank aastatel 1992–2010 käibele 27 meenemünti. Meenemündid on käibemündid selle väärtusega, mis neile on vermitud, kuid kuna nad on valmistatud väärismetallidest, siis tavapäraselt neid ringluses ei kasutata. Ka on meenemündid tavalistest käibemüntidest suuremad ja nende kujundus erineb selgelt ringluses olevate müntide omast.
http://muuseum.eestipank.ee/et/eesti-raha-ajalugu
Esimest korda avaldati mõte Eesti oma raha kasutuselevõtust 1987. aasta isemajandava Eesti ehk IME projektis, mille autorid olid Siim Kallas, Tiit Made, Edgar Savisaar ja Mikk Titma. Ametlikult võeti kurss oma rahale 18. mail 1989, mil allkirjastati seadus „Eesti NSV isemajandamise alused”. 15. detsembril 1989 võttis Eesti NSV Ülemnõukogu vastu otsuse taasasutada Eesti Pank 1. jaanuaril 1990.
Ülemnõukogu otsusega moodustati 27. märtsil 1991 rahareformi komitee, mille pädevuses oli kõikide rahareformiga seotud küsimuste üle otsustamine. Sinna kuulusid valitsusjuht, Eesti Panga president ja sõltumatu ekspert. Rahareformi komitee 17. juuni 1992. aasta dekreedi „Rahareformi läbiviimisest” kohaselt muutus alates sama aasta 20. juunist kella neljast hommikul ainsaks seaduslikuks maksevahendiks Eesti kroon.
Eesti Vabariigi pangatäht 1 kroon 1992 tagakülg
Eesti Vabariigi pangatäht 1 kroon 1992 tagakülg
Eesti rahasüsteem põhines valuutakomitee süsteemil, mis tähendas seda, et krooni kurss oli seotud jäigalt ankurvaluutaga. Rahareformist kuni 31. detsembrini 2001 oli krooni kurss fikseeritud Saksa marga suhtes vahekorras 8 Eesti krooni = 1 Saksa mark, seejärel oli krooni kurss fikseeritud euro suhtes 15,6466 Eesti krooni = 1 euro (seni kehtinud kurss).
Kroonipangatähtede ja -müntide kujunduse leidmiseks kuulutas Eesti NSV Ministrite Nõukogu detsembris 1989 välja avaliku konkursi. Konkursi tulemusel kujundas 1- ja 2-kroonised pangatähed Urmas Ploomipuu ning ülejäänud nimiväärtused Vladimir Taiger. 1- ja 2-kroonised trükiti Ameerika Ühendriikides, suurema nimiväärtusega pangatähed Inglismaal. Viimased, uuendatud seeriad lasti trükkida Saksamaal.
Eesti Vabariigi pangatäht 100 krooni 1992
Eesti Vabariigi pangatäht 100 krooni 1992
Mündikavandite konkursi tulemusel kavandas müntide esialgsed eskiisid Mari Käbin, kuid seoses Eesti Vabariigi nime ja sümbolite taaskasutuselevõtuga muutusid ka müntide vermimise nõuded. Esialgsete kavandite järgi jõuti vermida proovimündid rukkilille kujutise ja aastaarvuga 1991. Lõpuks vermiti kõik mündid 1936. aasta müntide eeskujul: esiküljel kolm leopardina kujutatud lõvi ja aastaarv ning tagaküljel riigi nimi ja nimiväärtus. Müntidele vermitud vapilõvi modelleeris skulptor Arseni Mölder ning mündiväljale sobitas need kunstnik Ants Raud. Mündid vermiti algul Tallinnas, hiljem Soomes, Lõuna-Aafrika Vabariigis, Inglismaal, Prantsusmaal, Madalmaades ja Saksamaal.
Mitmete oluliste tähtpäevade ja -sündmuste jäädvustamiseks lasi Eesti Pank aastatel 1992–2010 käibele 27 meenemünti. Meenemündid on käibemündid selle väärtusega, mis neile on vermitud, kuid kuna nad on valmistatud väärismetallidest, siis tavapäraselt neid ringluses ei kasutata. Ka on meenemündid tavalistest käibemüntidest suuremad ja nende kujundus erineb selgelt ringluses olevate müntide omast.
http://muuseum.eestipank.ee/et/eesti-raha-ajalugu
http://muuseum.eestipank.ee/et/eesti-raha-ajalugu
19 September 2016 18:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
“Läks teisiti, ja sellest dokumendist sai tegelikult legaalsuse piiril olev iseseisvusliikumise programm, mis sobis väga suurele hulgale inimestele. Seega oli see avaldus üheks osaks kogu protsessist, mis on päriselt iseseisva Eesti loonud ja toonud sinna, kus me täna oleme,” on Siim Kallas rahulolev.
19 September 2016 18:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Millegipärast sama kopeeritud tekst, on suts erinev siin,
"Pidi see ju olema lühike ja lööv. Aga – success has always many fathers...,” muigab Kallas. "
http://www.vabaeestisona.com/index.php/eesti-uudised/2140-kuulsa-kvarteti-kirjatuekk-artikkel-millest-kasvas-vaelja-vaba-eesti-.html
"Pidi see ju olema lühike ja lööv. Aga – success has always many fathers...,” muigab Kallas. "
http://www.vabaeestisona.com/index.php/eesti-uudised/2140-kuulsa-kvarteti-kirjatuekk-artikkel-millest-kasvas-vaelja-vaba-eesti-.html
http://www.vabaeestisona.com/index.php/eesti-uudised/2140-kuulsa-kvarteti-kirjatuekk-artikkel-millest-kasvas-vaelja-vaba-eesti-.html
19 September 2016 18:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://maaleht.delfi.ee/news/maaleht/elu/nelja-mehe-artiklist-kasvas-vaba-eesti?id=64989420
Sündis Kallase kirjutusmasinal
Peeter Krossi sõnul tuleks eraldada kaht perioodi. “Esimene oli 1987. aasta juulist kuni 26. septembrini, mil Edasis ilmus “Ettepanek: kogu Eesti NSV täielikule isemajandamisele”. Pärast seda käivitus IME teine faas, mis oli laiaulatuslik ja lõppes umbes aasta pärast IME üldkontseptsiooni väljatöötamisega.
Teise faasi sisulised tulemused olid olulised toetuspunktid edasises Eesti riikluse taastamise protsessis,“ kõneleb Kross.
Eesti Panga endine president, endine rahandus-, välis- ja peaminister, praegune Euroopa Komisjoni asepresident Siim Kallas ütleb, et töötas sel ajal tihedalt koos tollase plaanikomitee osakonnajuhataja Edgar Savisaarega, hilisema valitsusjuhi, endise siseministri ja praegugi Tallinna linnapea ametis oleva mehega, kohtudes temaga peaaegu iga päev.
“Esimestes visandites oli kohe sees oma raha idee, kuidas me seda ka ei nimetanud. Mingit juunipleenumi mõju ma ei mäleta,” ütleb Kallas. “Võib-olla oli see mõnes seonduvas kirjutises suitsukatteks. Kes mida kirjutas, seda on tagantjärele raske kindlaks teha. Mingit ühte koosolekut ma ei mäleta. Neid oli mitmeid. Korraldas neid Edgar Savisaar, kes ka tekste kirjutas. Võin küll öelda, et mitmed versioonid sündisid minu kirjutusmasinal.”
Sündis Kallase kirjutusmasinal
Peeter Krossi sõnul tuleks eraldada kaht perioodi. “Esimene oli 1987. aasta juulist kuni 26. septembrini, mil Edasis ilmus “Ettepanek: kogu Eesti NSV täielikule isemajandamisele”. Pärast seda käivitus IME teine faas, mis oli laiaulatuslik ja lõppes umbes aasta pärast IME üldkontseptsiooni väljatöötamisega.
Teise faasi sisulised tulemused olid olulised toetuspunktid edasises Eesti riikluse taastamise protsessis,“ kõneleb Kross.
Eesti Panga endine president, endine rahandus-, välis- ja peaminister, praegune Euroopa Komisjoni asepresident Siim Kallas ütleb, et töötas sel ajal tihedalt koos tollase plaanikomitee osakonnajuhataja Edgar Savisaarega, hilisema valitsusjuhi, endise siseministri ja praegugi Tallinna linnapea ametis oleva mehega, kohtudes temaga peaaegu iga päev.
“Esimestes visandites oli kohe sees oma raha idee, kuidas me seda ka ei nimetanud. Mingit juunipleenumi mõju ma ei mäleta,” ütleb Kallas. “Võib-olla oli see mõnes seonduvas kirjutises suitsukatteks. Kes mida kirjutas, seda on tagantjärele raske kindlaks teha. Mingit ühte koosolekut ma ei mäleta. Neid oli mitmeid. Korraldas neid Edgar Savisaar, kes ka tekste kirjutas. Võin küll öelda, et mitmed versioonid sündisid minu kirjutusmasinal.”
http://maaleht.delfi.ee/news/maaleht/elu/nelja-mehe-artiklist-kasvas-vaba-eesti?id=64989420
19 September 2016 18:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Bogomolov,
In 1977 — 1991 member of Communist Party of the Soviet Union. In 1995 — 1996 he is a supporter of the party Narodovlastie (ru). In 2000 — 2003 he is a member of President Putin's party "Union of Unity and Fatherland". From 2004 he is a member of President Putin's United Russia Party.
14 February 2014 Putin accepted his request for resignation
He has been governor of Kurgan Oblast since 1996, being re-elected in 2000[2] and 2004. At December 25, 2009, his candidacy was approved by the regional Duma for vesting the powers of the higher official of the subject of the Russian Federation for the next term, on the proposal of the President of the Russian Federation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Bogomolov
www.cato.org/cato-journal/winter-1993/russia-threatened-hyperinflation
In 1977 — 1991 member of Communist Party of the Soviet Union. In 1995 — 1996 he is a supporter of the party Narodovlastie (ru). In 2000 — 2003 he is a member of President Putin's party "Union of Unity and Fatherland". From 2004 he is a member of President Putin's United Russia Party.
14 February 2014 Putin accepted his request for resignation
He has been governor of Kurgan Oblast since 1996, being re-elected in 2000[2] and 2004. At December 25, 2009, his candidacy was approved by the regional Duma for vesting the powers of the higher official of the subject of the Russian Federation for the next term, on the proposal of the President of the Russian Federation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Bogomolov
www.cato.org/cato-journal/winter-1993/russia-threatened-hyperinflation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Bogomolov
19 September 2016 18:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"In the later years of the Soviet Union accurate detailed information regarding conditions in Soviet agriculture was considered a state secret when not censored outright. A major breach in security occurred in 1983 when the details of a classified paper, "for internal use only", the report from the closed conference in Novosibirsk by Tatyana Zaslavskaya regarding the crisis in Soviet agriculture, were published in the Washington Post. It was called «О совершенствовании социалистических производственных отношений и задачах экономической социологии» (“About the perfection of socialist relations of production and problems of economic sociology”) and was next to the United States also published in Germany. In the USSR all copies of the “Novosibirsk manifesto” were withdrawn by the KGB. Later it became known as the Novosibirsk Report in the West and was often considered one of the first signs of perestroika.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatyana_Zaslavskaya
https://www.amazon.com/Second-Socialist-Revolution-Alternative-Strategy/dp/0253206146
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatyana_Zaslavskaya
https://www.amazon.com/Second-Socialist-Revolution-Alternative-Strategy/dp/0253206146
19 September 2016 18:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aganbegyan,
In the late 1980s he was one of Mikhail Gorbachev's chief economic advisers and among the first Soviet economists to voice the need for a restructuring of the economic and business infrastructure of the Soviet Union. His ideas were presented in a number of ideological books on perestroika.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abel_Aganbegyan
https://www.amazon.com/Inside-Perestroika-Future-Soviet-Economy/dp/0060390999
In the late 1980s he was one of Mikhail Gorbachev's chief economic advisers and among the first Soviet economists to voice the need for a restructuring of the economic and business infrastructure of the Soviet Union. His ideas were presented in a number of ideological books on perestroika.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abel_Aganbegyan
https://www.amazon.com/Inside-Perestroika-Future-Soviet-Economy/dp/0060390999
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abel_Aganbegyan
19 September 2016 18:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Eeltoodud põhimõtted ei ole võõrad nendele lugejatele, kes on jälginud viimasel ajal keskajakirjanduses NSV Liidu Teaduste Akadeemia akadeemikute Abel Aganbegjani, Tarjana Zaslavskaja ja Oleg Bogomolovi, professor Gavril Popovi ning mitmete teiste majandusteadlaste poolt avaldatud seisukohti.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavriil_Kharitonovich_Popov
https://www.amazon.com/Restoration-Russia-Why-Capitalism-Failed/dp/1859840728
Other political affiliations Communist Party (1959-1990)
Democratic Russia (1990-1994)
Independent (1994-2001)
Social Democratic Party (2001-2007)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavriil_Kharitonovich_Popov
https://www.amazon.com/Restoration-Russia-Why-Capitalism-Failed/dp/1859840728
Other political affiliations Communist Party (1959-1990)
Democratic Russia (1990-1994)
Independent (1994-2001)
Social Democratic Party (2001-2007)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavriil_Kharitonovich_Popov
19 September 2016 18:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Siin kiskus suts ärist ära juba.. millega saab jalgealt vaipa tõmmata:
" Majanduses valitseb organisatsiooniline paljusus, kusjuures igati soodustatakse tarbija pärast konkureerivate ettevõtete olemasolu. Laiendatakse kooperatiivset tootmist, osa ettevõtete tegevus rajatakse aktsiaseltsi põhimõttel. Ettevõtete loomiseks ja nende tegevuse korraldamiseks tõmmatakse kaasa nii Eesti NSV elanike rahalised vahendid kui ka väliskapital. Toodete kvaliteeti hinnatakse, lähtudes rahvusvahelistest standarditest.
" Majanduses valitseb organisatsiooniline paljusus, kusjuures igati soodustatakse tarbija pärast konkureerivate ettevõtete olemasolu. Laiendatakse kooperatiivset tootmist, osa ettevõtete tegevus rajatakse aktsiaseltsi põhimõttel. Ettevõtete loomiseks ja nende tegevuse korraldamiseks tõmmatakse kaasa nii Eesti NSV elanike rahalised vahendid kui ka väliskapital. Toodete kvaliteeti hinnatakse, lähtudes rahvusvahelistest standarditest.
19 September 2016 18:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://epl.delfi.ee/archive/print.php?id=51102407/
2. Eesti NSV territooriumil paiknev majandus on Eesti NSV alluvuses. See kehtib ka raudtee, merelaevanduse ja praegu üleliidulises alluvuses olevate ettevõtete kohta. Majanduse struktuur korraldatakse ümber, et tagada eelisareng nendele valdkondadele, mis põhinevad eeskätt kohalikul ressursil, on meile majanduslikult kasulikud, kultuuriliselt vastuvõetavad ja majandamise traditsioonidega kooskõlas. "
Nii peaks olema jah
2. Eesti NSV territooriumil paiknev majandus on Eesti NSV alluvuses. See kehtib ka raudtee, merelaevanduse ja praegu üleliidulises alluvuses olevate ettevõtete kohta. Majanduse struktuur korraldatakse ümber, et tagada eelisareng nendele valdkondadele, mis põhinevad eeskätt kohalikul ressursil, on meile majanduslikult kasulikud, kultuuriliselt vastuvõetavad ja majandamise traditsioonidega kooskõlas. "
Nii peaks olema jah
http://epl.delfi.ee/archive/print.php?id=51102407%2F
19 September 2016 18:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.reform.ee/liige/siim-kallas
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardo_Hansson
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardo_Hansson
https://www.reform.ee/liige/siim-kallas
19 September 2016 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992._aasta_Eesti_rahareform
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992._aasta_Eesti_rahareform
19 September 2016 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isemajandav_Eesti
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isemajandav_Eesti
19 September 2016 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuna palga ja toidu suhe on umbes sama mis siis, aint 15 korda erinev (võib lausa öelda, et tegelikult on toit paar korda odavam nüüd kui 1992)
Aeg:
Reformi ettevalmistamine sai uue hoo Siim Kallase saamisega Eesti Panga presidendiks 23. septembril 1991.
Rahavahetus toimus 20. juunist kuni 22. juunini 1992;
Rahavahetajate nimekirja oli kantud 1 410 951 residenti, kellest 1 096 706 ka raha vahetamas käis. Keskmiselt vahetati raha 136,41 krooni eest.
Eesti residendid võisid vahetada sularaha kuni 1500 rubla kursiga 10 rubla = 1 kroon, summad üle selle sai vahetada kursiga 50 rubla = 1 kroon;
Kroonideks vahetati ka kõik Eesti pankades olnud rublaarved (kursiga 10 rubla = 1 kroon)
21. juunil teatas Siim Kallas, et ringlusse lasti 593 164 250 krooni.
Rahareform sidus Eesti krooni Saksa margaga suhtes: 1 DEM = 8 EEK (ametlik kurss), Euro (EUR) kasutuselevõtuga 1999. aastal fikseeriti Eesti kroon ekvivalentse kursi alusel) euro suhtes: 1 EUR = 15,64664 EEK. Kui Eesti astus 2004. aastal vahetuskursimehhanismi ERM2 liikmeks, siis kaotati viimane, 7. koht (0,00004) ära põhjendusega, et kõigi eurole üle läinud valuutade ümberarvestamise tegur oli kuuekohaline, st nüüd on kurss 1 € = 15,6466 EEK.
Krooni saabudes juunis 1992 maksis leivapäts 80 senti kuni 1,50 krooni. Suhkrukilo maksis 6,60, 200-grammine võipakk 3,50.
Keskmine brutopalk oli 1992. aastal ehk krooni tuleku ajal 549 krooni, põllumajanduses isegi vaid 388 krooni.
//ehk siis x 15 ...
Aeg:
Reformi ettevalmistamine sai uue hoo Siim Kallase saamisega Eesti Panga presidendiks 23. septembril 1991.
Rahavahetus toimus 20. juunist kuni 22. juunini 1992;
Rahavahetajate nimekirja oli kantud 1 410 951 residenti, kellest 1 096 706 ka raha vahetamas käis. Keskmiselt vahetati raha 136,41 krooni eest.
Eesti residendid võisid vahetada sularaha kuni 1500 rubla kursiga 10 rubla = 1 kroon, summad üle selle sai vahetada kursiga 50 rubla = 1 kroon;
Kroonideks vahetati ka kõik Eesti pankades olnud rublaarved (kursiga 10 rubla = 1 kroon)
21. juunil teatas Siim Kallas, et ringlusse lasti 593 164 250 krooni.
Rahareform sidus Eesti krooni Saksa margaga suhtes: 1 DEM = 8 EEK (ametlik kurss), Euro (EUR) kasutuselevõtuga 1999. aastal fikseeriti Eesti kroon ekvivalentse kursi alusel) euro suhtes: 1 EUR = 15,64664 EEK. Kui Eesti astus 2004. aastal vahetuskursimehhanismi ERM2 liikmeks, siis kaotati viimane, 7. koht (0,00004) ära põhjendusega, et kõigi eurole üle läinud valuutade ümberarvestamise tegur oli kuuekohaline, st nüüd on kurss 1 € = 15,6466 EEK.
Krooni saabudes juunis 1992 maksis leivapäts 80 senti kuni 1,50 krooni. Suhkrukilo maksis 6,60, 200-grammine võipakk 3,50.
Keskmine brutopalk oli 1992. aastal ehk krooni tuleku ajal 549 krooni, põllumajanduses isegi vaid 388 krooni.
//ehk siis x 15 ...
19 September 2016 18:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Üks ütleb, et Savisaar kutsus kokku, teine et Kallas, eks molemal molemat vaja oli ja omad soovid, igatahes sama oli vaja ka Kremli osadel filosoofidel, et pankrotis ENSV nupud ise ennast majandama saada kuid kui ned oma meestega aidata, ja usus neid uskuma panna, et ise tegid, siis lootus ikkagi noid sateliite juhtima jääda, eriti kui sama strateegiat ka kõikide muude rinnete ja suundade osas kasutada, sest paratamatu tuleb nagunii, parem olla omadega ettevalmistunud, rahvas unustab.. kuid selleks ajaks juba uued plaanid ja uued lapsed sünnitatud
19 September 2016 18:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuidagi palju noorem tundud (see uus või varem pilt-?)
19 September 2016 17:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oot kas saad veel ühe värske siia kuskile postitada..
19 September 2016 17:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ma ei tea.. teine vaim nagu
19 September 2016 17:42
Margus Meigo commented on Aiki Obermann's photo.
Oot.. See ikka Sina v?
19 September 2016 16:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mitmes meelses, keeleses, tadvuses ja mooduses
19 September 2016 05:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tahad teada,, aidata,, seda onlainis koostada ja loetavaks, arusaadavaks teha?
Muidu oma tarkused soovitan igaks juhuks paberile kirjutada ja välja printida kuni veel saad.
Kuni veel voimalik
Muidu oma tarkused soovitan igaks juhuks paberile kirjutada ja välja printida kuni veel saad.
Kuni veel voimalik
19 September 2016 05:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
jah zted xetid.. millleks sellel sonal selles keeles neid siiia vaja oli
19 September 2016 03:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
oi kuidas tulid ikka sonad :D
19 September 2016 03:44
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Esna's comment.
Group: Tutvus-chat 35+
Oled juba endale Selgeks teinud, mis sorti naist soovid leida, mis suunaga oma elus minna, või soovid lihtsalt armastuse Sülle end visata ja vaata kuhu see meeletus Sind koos Püha Vaimuga kannab?18 September 2016 22:05
Margus Meigo commented on Ansa Ann's post.
Group: Tutvus-chat 35+
Soovime : )18 September 2016 21:48
Margus Meigo replied to Epp-Maria Undrits's comment.
Väa Väga Tiubli, et siia teada andsid, Äitah!
Selliseid mõtliku tarke, hoolikaid inimesi, kellele ühenduste olulisus ja lihtsus aru saadav on, soovime juurdekasvu!
Selliseid mõtliku tarke, hoolikaid inimesi, kellele ühenduste olulisus ja lihtsus aru saadav on, soovime juurdekasvu!
18 September 2016 21:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
18 September 2016 21:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Nii, lopus lasi postitiatada..
18 September 2016 21:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid jah, eks ta üks kurb ja tark tõsielu lugu ole, pisara mul silma tõi, hinge veed pani voolama, ....oma elu vaatama ja maailma muutuma.. mõtted samblasemaks värskeks, teod nüüd maisemaks ja karskeks,
16 September 2016 21:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Wau, kuulge see muusikali teatritükk on puhta geeniuse teema ju, ses osas, et kui just seda üliolulist vaadata mis sellest kultuuriruumist kaotada proovitakse...
16 September 2016 19:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just that what needed for what is needed :)
16 September 2016 18:58
Margus Meigo commented on Martina Hoffmann's photo.
This is how good offices look-alike,
16 September 2016 18:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Words to learn:
20B AH 2020 and Beyond Ad Hoc Group
3D-BF 3 Dimensional Beamforming
3GPP 3rd Generation Partnership Project
4G Fourth Generation
5G Fifth Generation
5G PPP 5G Infrastructure Public Private Partnership
5GIC 5G Innovation Centre
5GMF Fifth Generation Mobile Communications Promotion Forum
AAS Active Antenna System
APAC Asia Pacific
ARIB Association of Radio Industries and Businesses
cm Centimeter
CSMAC Commerce Spectrum Management Advisory Committee
DL Downlink
E2E End to End
eMBB Enhanced mobile broadband
EMEA Europe, the Middle East and Africa
EU European Union
FBMC Filter Bank Multi-Carrier Modulation
FCC Federal Communications Commission
FD-MIMO Full Dimension MIMO
FDD Frequency Duplex Division
FOFDM Filtered OFDM
FP7 European Union’s 7th Framework Program
FSS Fixed Satellite Service
FY Fiscal Year
Gbps Gigabits per second
HSPA High Speed Packet Access
ICT Information and Communications Technology
IDMA Interleave Division Multiple Access
IEEE Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers
IMT International Mobile Telecommunications
IMT-2020 International Mobile Telecommunications for 2020 and beyond
IoT Internet of Things
ITU International Telecommunications Union
ITU-R International Telecommunications Union Radiocommunication
Sector
km Kilometer
LDS Low Density Spreading
LOE Location of Everything
LTE Long Term Evolution
LTE-A LTE Advanced
LTE-A Pro
LTE-B LTE Advanced (2nd Phase)
LTE-C LTE Advanced (3rd Phase)
CSMAC 5G Final Report
8 July 2016 Page 32
LTE-U Long Term Evolution – Unlicensed
M Meter
m Meters
MAC Media access control address
Mbps Megabits per second
MIMO Multiple-Input Multiple-Output
mm Millimeter
mMTC Massive machine-type communications
mmWave Millimeter Wave
MOST Ministry of Science & Technology 863-5G Project
ms Millisecond
MSIP Ministry of Science, ICT, and Future Planning
MTC Machine Type Communications
NFV Network Function Virtualization
NGMN Next Generation Mobile Networks Alliance
NOI Notice of Inquiry
NOMA Non Orthogonal Multiple Access
NPRM Notice of Proposed Rulemaking
NTIA National Telecommunications & Information Administration
NYU New York University
OFDMA Orthogonal Frequency-Division Multiple Access
PDMA Pattern Division Multiple Access
R13
R14
R&D Research and Development
RAT Radio Access Technologies
RF Radio Frequency
SCADA Supervisory Control And Data Acquisition
SCMA Sparse Code Multiple Access
SDN Software Defined Networks
SDR Software Defined Radio
Tbps Terabits per second
TDD Time Duplex Division
UL Uplink
URLLC Ultra-reliable and low-latency communications
US United States
V2I Vehicle to Infrastructure
V2P Vehicle to Pedestrian
V2V Vehicle to Vehicle
V2X Vehicle to thing
VR Virtual Reality
WP5D ITU-R Working Party 5D
WRC-12 World Radiocommunication Conference 2012
WRC-15 World Radiocommunication Conference 2015
WRC-18/19 World Radiocommunication Conference 2018/2019
CSMAC 5G Final Report
8 July 2016 Page 33
20B AH 2020 and Beyond Ad Hoc Group
3D-BF 3 Dimensional Beamforming
3GPP 3rd Generation Partnership Project
4G Fourth Generation
5G Fifth Generation
5G PPP 5G Infrastructure Public Private Partnership
5GIC 5G Innovation Centre
5GMF Fifth Generation Mobile Communications Promotion Forum
AAS Active Antenna System
APAC Asia Pacific
ARIB Association of Radio Industries and Businesses
cm Centimeter
CSMAC Commerce Spectrum Management Advisory Committee
DL Downlink
E2E End to End
eMBB Enhanced mobile broadband
EMEA Europe, the Middle East and Africa
EU European Union
FBMC Filter Bank Multi-Carrier Modulation
FCC Federal Communications Commission
FD-MIMO Full Dimension MIMO
FDD Frequency Duplex Division
FOFDM Filtered OFDM
FP7 European Union’s 7th Framework Program
FSS Fixed Satellite Service
FY Fiscal Year
Gbps Gigabits per second
HSPA High Speed Packet Access
ICT Information and Communications Technology
IDMA Interleave Division Multiple Access
IEEE Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers
IMT International Mobile Telecommunications
IMT-2020 International Mobile Telecommunications for 2020 and beyond
IoT Internet of Things
ITU International Telecommunications Union
ITU-R International Telecommunications Union Radiocommunication
Sector
km Kilometer
LDS Low Density Spreading
LOE Location of Everything
LTE Long Term Evolution
LTE-A LTE Advanced
LTE-A Pro
LTE-B LTE Advanced (2nd Phase)
LTE-C LTE Advanced (3rd Phase)
CSMAC 5G Final Report
8 July 2016 Page 32
LTE-U Long Term Evolution – Unlicensed
M Meter
m Meters
MAC Media access control address
Mbps Megabits per second
MIMO Multiple-Input Multiple-Output
mm Millimeter
mMTC Massive machine-type communications
mmWave Millimeter Wave
MOST Ministry of Science & Technology 863-5G Project
ms Millisecond
MSIP Ministry of Science, ICT, and Future Planning
MTC Machine Type Communications
NFV Network Function Virtualization
NGMN Next Generation Mobile Networks Alliance
NOI Notice of Inquiry
NOMA Non Orthogonal Multiple Access
NPRM Notice of Proposed Rulemaking
NTIA National Telecommunications & Information Administration
NYU New York University
OFDMA Orthogonal Frequency-Division Multiple Access
PDMA Pattern Division Multiple Access
R13
R14
R&D Research and Development
RAT Radio Access Technologies
RF Radio Frequency
SCADA Supervisory Control And Data Acquisition
SCMA Sparse Code Multiple Access
SDN Software Defined Networks
SDR Software Defined Radio
Tbps Terabits per second
TDD Time Duplex Division
UL Uplink
URLLC Ultra-reliable and low-latency communications
US United States
V2I Vehicle to Infrastructure
V2P Vehicle to Pedestrian
V2V Vehicle to Vehicle
V2X Vehicle to thing
VR Virtual Reality
WP5D ITU-R Working Party 5D
WRC-12 World Radiocommunication Conference 2012
WRC-15 World Radiocommunication Conference 2015
WRC-18/19 World Radiocommunication Conference 2018/2019
CSMAC 5G Final Report
8 July 2016 Page 33
16 September 2016 04:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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https://youtu.be/dFq29slH-BI
https://youtu.be/dFq29slH-BI
https://youtu.be/dFq29slH-BI
16 September 2016 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Siit: http://www.head-fi.org/t/654057/alac-vs-flac/120
http://www.head-fi.org/t/654057/alac-vs-flac/120
16 September 2016 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Foorumis veel arutatakse.
"If there are zero differences at bit level, we have the intriguing question how the same bits can sound different depending on the file format.
The only explanation I can conjecture up is that decoding ALAC and FLAC yield different electronical noise patterns. Say one a bit more I/O, the other a bit more CPU or one a more steady processor activity and the other a more burst like pattern, etc.
Then we have to assume that this noise creeps into the DAC en modulates the analog out in some way.
Sounds a bit farfetched maybe but there are measurements demonstrating the difference between an isolated DAC and a non-isolated DAC e.g. by using a USB-isolator: http://www.thewelltemperedcomputer.com/Intro/SQ/GalvanicIsolation.htm
So the bits might be identical, the way they are prepared differs.
If this true, an interesting experiment would be to use a media player supporting memory playback.
All I/O and all decoding are done on the entire track en stored in memory before playback starts.
This should eliminate all differences due to the “preparation” of the bits.
"If there are zero differences at bit level, we have the intriguing question how the same bits can sound different depending on the file format.
The only explanation I can conjecture up is that decoding ALAC and FLAC yield different electronical noise patterns. Say one a bit more I/O, the other a bit more CPU or one a more steady processor activity and the other a more burst like pattern, etc.
Then we have to assume that this noise creeps into the DAC en modulates the analog out in some way.
Sounds a bit farfetched maybe but there are measurements demonstrating the difference between an isolated DAC and a non-isolated DAC e.g. by using a USB-isolator: http://www.thewelltemperedcomputer.com/Intro/SQ/GalvanicIsolation.htm
So the bits might be identical, the way they are prepared differs.
If this true, an interesting experiment would be to use a media player supporting memory playback.
All I/O and all decoding are done on the entire track en stored in memory before playback starts.
This should eliminate all differences due to the “preparation” of the bits.
http://www.thewelltemperedcomputer.com/Intro/SQ/GalvanicIsolation.htm
16 September 2016 01:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Stevenm wrote: Apple lossless is proprietory (but not limited) to Apple, ALAC is limited to 16 bits @ 44.1 khz.
That is not correct. The ALAC codec will correctly handle sample rates up to 192kHz and bit depths up to 24, just like FLAC and if you play those files back with iTunes, you get the full resolution. However, it is a one-way process. If you convert a 24-bit AIFF or WAV file to ALAC, then reconvert back from ALAC to AIF or WAV with anything that uses Apple's CoreAudio engine, you end up with a file that has been truncated to 16 bits.
This has been reported to Apple but it appears it is not a bug but a deliberate decision on their part. I suspect that it relates to Apple once considering releasing 24-bit ALAC files but not wanting end-users to have unrestricted access to the original data. "
// Nii, et päris katastroofiline feil ikkagi appely poolt.. vaat mis kõik välja tuleb..
That is not correct. The ALAC codec will correctly handle sample rates up to 192kHz and bit depths up to 24, just like FLAC and if you play those files back with iTunes, you get the full resolution. However, it is a one-way process. If you convert a 24-bit AIFF or WAV file to ALAC, then reconvert back from ALAC to AIF or WAV with anything that uses Apple's CoreAudio engine, you end up with a file that has been truncated to 16 bits.
This has been reported to Apple but it appears it is not a bug but a deliberate decision on their part. I suspect that it relates to Apple once considering releasing 24-bit ALAC files but not wanting end-users to have unrestricted access to the original data. "
// Nii, et päris katastroofiline feil ikkagi appely poolt.. vaat mis kõik välja tuleb..
16 September 2016 01:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ALAC vs FLAC
Apple losless is proprietory (but not limited) to Apple, ALAC is limited to 16 bits @ 44.1 khz. If the sytem path you currently own will accept the iTunes app and that is all you intend to use it for, you are good-to-go. I have been using it this way for many years, and I've been happy, but new higher resolution formats (FLAC) are here and are much more widly accepted. So I'm keeping an open mind for the future.
FLAC can handle resolutions from 16 bit at 44.1 khz & 96 khz, 20 bits @ 44.1 (HDHC) & 96khz, all the way to 24 bits @ 196 khz, (SACD, DVD audio & Blu-Ray) it is compatible with almost every hi-end format except for iTunes. Shame on Apple
Apple losless is proprietory (but not limited) to Apple, ALAC is limited to 16 bits @ 44.1 khz. If the sytem path you currently own will accept the iTunes app and that is all you intend to use it for, you are good-to-go. I have been using it this way for many years, and I've been happy, but new higher resolution formats (FLAC) are here and are much more widly accepted. So I'm keeping an open mind for the future.
FLAC can handle resolutions from 16 bit at 44.1 khz & 96 khz, 20 bits @ 44.1 (HDHC) & 96khz, all the way to 24 bits @ 196 khz, (SACD, DVD audio & Blu-Ray) it is compatible with almost every hi-end format except for iTunes. Shame on Apple
16 September 2016 01:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The second issue, and likely more major issue, why people are looking at the differences has more to do with the fact that iTunes does not play or support FLAC files natively. Why is that? Well, I honestly don’t know but if Apple does have a technology, such as lossless codecs, they sure do tend to support their own vs. other standards. Again, that’s neither here nor there but rather just a fact. "
16 September 2016 01:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"From an audio perspective, there’s no difference between FLAC or ALAC files that are recorded at the same sampling rate. That’s ultimately the case because all FLAC or ALAC files are compressed versions of a “lossless” original, which means that the original file, when compressed in either format to make it smaller to store and transmit, doesn’t lose any of its quality when it’s played on your system.
So, if the difference isn’t audible, then why are are you here and why do you get the sense that there’s such a zeal and fervor over the FLAC vs. ALAC battle? It has nothing to do with audio quality and everything to do with the perceived—emphasis on the word “perceived”—Apple ecosystem lock-in and consequent player choices."
So, if the difference isn’t audible, then why are are you here and why do you get the sense that there’s such a zeal and fervor over the FLAC vs. ALAC battle? It has nothing to do with audio quality and everything to do with the perceived—emphasis on the word “perceived”—Apple ecosystem lock-in and consequent player choices."
16 September 2016 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid jah... normaalne oleks kui see firma, kes on teinud nõrgema asja, mille kasu tegur on ületatav või ammendatav.. loobuks oma tootest ja asuksime kasutama neid asju, mis kõigile paremad..
https://pooraudiophile.com/2013/07/difference-between-flac-vs-alac-recordings.html
https://pooraudiophile.com/2013/07/difference-between-flac-vs-alac-recordings.html
https://pooraudiophile.com/2013/07/difference-between-flac-vs-alac-recordings.html
16 September 2016 01:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Wozniak on two separate occasions has insisted that the Apple 1’s initial price of $666.66 was just a coincidence, and that they did not even know the number 666 had religious implications being the mark of the beast. Unfortunately for Wozniak he cannot keep his story straight.
First version: in a “face to face” interview with Charles Turley, Turley asks the question “Why was the Apple 1, priced for sale at $666.66? surely it’s not something that has to do with the number of the beast or some such satanic meaning is it?”
Turley wrote Woz’s response: He laughed and told me that when he and Jobs came to an agreement on the retail sales price for the Apple 1 of $666.66 - he didn’t even realize that the 666 number was in any way related to Satan and it had nothing to do at all with the ’666’ number of the beast or anything pertaining to satanic stuff. He said: “I simply like triple digit numbers with all the things I’m involved with, the cost of making the Apple 1 was around $540 or there a bouts and we agreed on the best markup, retail price above the cost of building it, which worked out to $666. Jobs then tacked on the 66 cents to make it an eye-catcher price for the ads with the sale and promotion publications of it to the public.”
Second Version: In a QA posted on CNET Wozniak was asked why him and Steve Jobs decided to sell the Apple 1 for $666.66 his response was “I was into repeating digits, and then we came up - Steve worked a deal to sell his computers wholesale price to the store for $500 bucks. what should the retail be? add a third on. that puts it at about 667 plus its 666.66 because its all one digit, to me that's just an easier way to type. We didn’t - we didn’t know the number had religious significance, we found out.
The question: did they sell the computer to the store for $500? which would mean it cost less than $500 dollars to build? or did it cost them $540 to build as Woz states in the 1999 interview? Was the mark up a third of 500 bringing it to an even 666.66? or was it with a 19% markup and then Jobs had to add the 66 cents to come up with the final price?
Also the claim that they had no idea 666 had any significant meaning, despite the occult logo and advertising they came up with through the years is slightly absurd especially seeing that he was initiated into the Freemasons just a few years later in 1980.
Cited Sources : nwodb.com/?e=03578
First version: in a “face to face” interview with Charles Turley, Turley asks the question “Why was the Apple 1, priced for sale at $666.66? surely it’s not something that has to do with the number of the beast or some such satanic meaning is it?”
Turley wrote Woz’s response: He laughed and told me that when he and Jobs came to an agreement on the retail sales price for the Apple 1 of $666.66 - he didn’t even realize that the 666 number was in any way related to Satan and it had nothing to do at all with the ’666’ number of the beast or anything pertaining to satanic stuff. He said: “I simply like triple digit numbers with all the things I’m involved with, the cost of making the Apple 1 was around $540 or there a bouts and we agreed on the best markup, retail price above the cost of building it, which worked out to $666. Jobs then tacked on the 66 cents to make it an eye-catcher price for the ads with the sale and promotion publications of it to the public.”
Second Version: In a QA posted on CNET Wozniak was asked why him and Steve Jobs decided to sell the Apple 1 for $666.66 his response was “I was into repeating digits, and then we came up - Steve worked a deal to sell his computers wholesale price to the store for $500 bucks. what should the retail be? add a third on. that puts it at about 667 plus its 666.66 because its all one digit, to me that's just an easier way to type. We didn’t - we didn’t know the number had religious significance, we found out.
The question: did they sell the computer to the store for $500? which would mean it cost less than $500 dollars to build? or did it cost them $540 to build as Woz states in the 1999 interview? Was the mark up a third of 500 bringing it to an even 666.66? or was it with a 19% markup and then Jobs had to add the 66 cents to come up with the final price?
Also the claim that they had no idea 666 had any significant meaning, despite the occult logo and advertising they came up with through the years is slightly absurd especially seeing that he was initiated into the Freemasons just a few years later in 1980.
Cited Sources : nwodb.com/?e=03578
http://nwodb.com/?e=03578
16 September 2016 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
16 September 2016 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Wozniak on two separate occasions has insisted that the Apple 1’s initial price of $666.66 was just a coincidence, and that they did not even know the number 666 had religious implications being the mark of the beast. Unfortunately for Wozniak he cannot keep his story straight.
First version: in a “face to face” interview with Charles Turley, Turley asks the question “Why was the Apple 1, priced for sale at $666.66? surely it’s not something that has to do with the number of the beast or some such satanic meaning is it?”
Turley wrote Woz’s response: He laughed and told me that when he and Jobs came to an agreement on the retail sales price for the Apple 1 of $666.66 - he didn’t even realize that the 666 number was in any way related to Satan and it had nothing to do at all with the ’666’ number of the beast or anything pertaining to satanic stuff. He said: “I simply like triple digit numbers with all the things I’m involved with, the cost of making the Apple 1 was around $540 or there a bouts and we agreed on the best markup, retail price above the cost of building it, which worked out to $666. Jobs then tacked on the 66 cents to make it an eye-catcher price for the ads with the sale and promotion publications of it to the public.”
Second Version: In a QA posted on CNET Wozniak was asked why him and Steve Jobs decided to sell the Apple 1 for $666.66 his response was “I was into repeating digits, and then we came up - Steve worked a deal to sell his computers wholesale price to the store for $500 bucks. what should the retail be? add a third on. that puts it at about 667 plus its 666.66 because its all one digit, to me that's just an easier way to type. We didn’t - we didn’t know the number had religious significance, we found out.
The question: did they sell the computer to the store for $500? which would mean it cost less than $500 dollars to build? or did it cost them $540 to build as Woz states in the 1999 interview? Was the mark up a third of 500 bringing it to an even 666.66? or was it with a 19% markup and then Jobs had to add the 66 cents to come up with the final price?
Also the claim that they had no idea 666 had any significant meaning, despite the occult logo and advertising they came up with through the years is slightly absurd especially seeing that he was initiated into the Freemasons just a few years later in 1980.
Cited Sources"'
First version: in a “face to face” interview with Charles Turley, Turley asks the question “Why was the Apple 1, priced for sale at $666.66? surely it’s not something that has to do with the number of the beast or some such satanic meaning is it?”
Turley wrote Woz’s response: He laughed and told me that when he and Jobs came to an agreement on the retail sales price for the Apple 1 of $666.66 - he didn’t even realize that the 666 number was in any way related to Satan and it had nothing to do at all with the ’666’ number of the beast or anything pertaining to satanic stuff. He said: “I simply like triple digit numbers with all the things I’m involved with, the cost of making the Apple 1 was around $540 or there a bouts and we agreed on the best markup, retail price above the cost of building it, which worked out to $666. Jobs then tacked on the 66 cents to make it an eye-catcher price for the ads with the sale and promotion publications of it to the public.”
Second Version: In a QA posted on CNET Wozniak was asked why him and Steve Jobs decided to sell the Apple 1 for $666.66 his response was “I was into repeating digits, and then we came up - Steve worked a deal to sell his computers wholesale price to the store for $500 bucks. what should the retail be? add a third on. that puts it at about 667 plus its 666.66 because its all one digit, to me that's just an easier way to type. We didn’t - we didn’t know the number had religious significance, we found out.
The question: did they sell the computer to the store for $500? which would mean it cost less than $500 dollars to build? or did it cost them $540 to build as Woz states in the 1999 interview? Was the mark up a third of 500 bringing it to an even 666.66? or was it with a 19% markup and then Jobs had to add the 66 cents to come up with the final price?
Also the claim that they had no idea 666 had any significant meaning, despite the occult logo and advertising they came up with through the years is slightly absurd especially seeing that he was initiated into the Freemasons just a few years later in 1980.
Cited Sources"'
16 September 2016 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
16 September 2016 01:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
perhaps i will find more some soon : )
16 September 2016 01:01
Margus Meigo commented on In My Way To Be Free's video.
Well, he told it all there about giving cues where ones life going.... and "In my way to be free" .. well, almoust al is to symbolical..
16 September 2016 00:22
Margus Meigo replied to Kari Kleiv's comment.
Wel, yes it takes time to make sense of my words also, but my message box is always open for clearificatons
16 September 2016 00:18
Margus Meigo replied to Kari Kleiv's comment.
I belive there is nearly is no crazy people,
but the many factors in us, that makes us look and act so for surrounding people who is not prepared or does not care (does not dare to care).
In the end it is political, as it is communism, liberalism, that is killing us all not just People like Tom who was victim of "the" system (Roman-Greek Empire we can say, who enslaves us all).
They was the ones, making situations, platform, paranoias and society this kind that honest looking person as Tom was not able to bare, and .. even more.. he was not able to bare, that people was keep being fake and on surface only..
Last time i saw him, when we say goodbye, when he went for parents wisiting and me to my homeland, .. thne that time, was clear also, that what people need is practical radical sensire community, for making chnages, ... but as long there is pentagram, the anti-life liberal nad communist mindset inflatrated in so many leyers of spiritual and real world structures, in to our relationships... then (also)Smart-Drug taking person as Tom, .. who can see CLEARLY throught people who are Real and who play games... (will it be family less genue or intellectually less harsh in correct way as needed..or friends who just need Hes support for their weaker life but does not really know how to dare to care or interest deeper in to what Tom is... )
or who is lost or what else... smart person, can see that easy and when on edge, the SMALLEST fakeness that people do .. can have dramatic effect, as they see it as WHOLE life mirror, whereworld has coming to... (and that also, right on that moment...).
and if person lacks at least one or few freinds on these times when head runs... then there is no where to run but down and to the wall.. as one sees, if not one cares, and no one dares,and no one prepares.. why should he care or dare anymore...
(specially if peopel around keep bringing dreams down)
For me.. i had complete support, even knowing poltical manipulations what is done whit person on his potential positions also on times when we disagree, even when i was not holding the Poster where was my blood on... as "anti police" protest seemed complete hypocricy for me, as long we fight with each other in so Low terms...
So yeah.
But for comfort, we cansay, that royal blood people like Tom, newer Die, ever : )
but the many factors in us, that makes us look and act so for surrounding people who is not prepared or does not care (does not dare to care).
In the end it is political, as it is communism, liberalism, that is killing us all not just People like Tom who was victim of "the" system (Roman-Greek Empire we can say, who enslaves us all).
They was the ones, making situations, platform, paranoias and society this kind that honest looking person as Tom was not able to bare, and .. even more.. he was not able to bare, that people was keep being fake and on surface only..
Last time i saw him, when we say goodbye, when he went for parents wisiting and me to my homeland, .. thne that time, was clear also, that what people need is practical radical sensire community, for making chnages, ... but as long there is pentagram, the anti-life liberal nad communist mindset inflatrated in so many leyers of spiritual and real world structures, in to our relationships... then (also)Smart-Drug taking person as Tom, .. who can see CLEARLY throught people who are Real and who play games... (will it be family less genue or intellectually less harsh in correct way as needed..or friends who just need Hes support for their weaker life but does not really know how to dare to care or interest deeper in to what Tom is... )
or who is lost or what else... smart person, can see that easy and when on edge, the SMALLEST fakeness that people do .. can have dramatic effect, as they see it as WHOLE life mirror, whereworld has coming to... (and that also, right on that moment...).
and if person lacks at least one or few freinds on these times when head runs... then there is no where to run but down and to the wall.. as one sees, if not one cares, and no one dares,and no one prepares.. why should he care or dare anymore...
(specially if peopel around keep bringing dreams down)
For me.. i had complete support, even knowing poltical manipulations what is done whit person on his potential positions also on times when we disagree, even when i was not holding the Poster where was my blood on... as "anti police" protest seemed complete hypocricy for me, as long we fight with each other in so Low terms...
So yeah.
But for comfort, we cansay, that royal blood people like Tom, newer Die, ever : )
16 September 2016 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
https://youtu.be/dFq29slH-BI
Would happen much more better if People (would) do what i say,
but at least Tom accomplish loads in hes life
... to bad friend's cared to little, to know, how to keep Humans in Postive track of life, that is not against Life
well, my self no difference, should have been keeping more contact
(lets not be selfdestructive anymore.. please... start to belive the god beliving people and see another level of life... run against wall is no use.. we have to make world better by smartness and actions of smartness and love )
Would happen much more better if People (would) do what i say,
but at least Tom accomplish loads in hes life
... to bad friend's cared to little, to know, how to keep Humans in Postive track of life, that is not against Life
well, my self no difference, should have been keeping more contact
(lets not be selfdestructive anymore.. please... start to belive the god beliving people and see another level of life... run against wall is no use.. we have to make world better by smartness and actions of smartness and love )
https://youtu.be/dFq29slH-BI
15 September 2016 07:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid see vist juba parem, kuigi .. tasub ringi mängida:
"If a skylark is living for not more than 8 years and his heartbeat is 10 time quicker than ours than you could imagine that time goes 10 time slower for him than for us. When we try to catch this little bird he is gone at our first movement toward him. His brain must be ten time quicker than ours as well. We move in slow motion for the bird.
If so, his wife that listens to her partner singing must hear 'this' in stead of the fast high song he is singing. :-0 does she like it?
It sounds dramatic.
This idea is not mine but 'stolen' from a Dutch biologist named Thijs van Vuure.
http://www.thijsvanvuure.nl/
In his video's on his website he sung what the bird was singing (now a Tit) and speeded it up 10 times.
He played his song for the bird and it reacts. GREAT."
https://www.freesound.org/people/klankbeeld/sounds/351991/
"If a skylark is living for not more than 8 years and his heartbeat is 10 time quicker than ours than you could imagine that time goes 10 time slower for him than for us. When we try to catch this little bird he is gone at our first movement toward him. His brain must be ten time quicker than ours as well. We move in slow motion for the bird.
If so, his wife that listens to her partner singing must hear 'this' in stead of the fast high song he is singing. :-0 does she like it?
It sounds dramatic.
This idea is not mine but 'stolen' from a Dutch biologist named Thijs van Vuure.
http://www.thijsvanvuure.nl/
In his video's on his website he sung what the bird was singing (now a Tit) and speeded it up 10 times.
He played his song for the bird and it reacts. GREAT."
https://www.freesound.org/people/klankbeeld/sounds/351991/
http://www.thijsvanvuure.nl/
14 September 2016 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Mõeldakse ikka asju välja:
"Images found on Flickr and Google converted to sound with Bitmaps & Waves and processed with Ozone 4, Dtblkfx and VirSyn Reflect. Titles taken from original image. These three images used: https://imgur.com/a/sHhCD Thanks to the creators"
https://www.freesound.org/people/toiletrolltube/sounds/339066/
"Images found on Flickr and Google converted to sound with Bitmaps & Waves and processed with Ozone 4, Dtblkfx and VirSyn Reflect. Titles taken from original image. These three images used: https://imgur.com/a/sHhCD Thanks to the creators"
https://www.freesound.org/people/toiletrolltube/sounds/339066/
https://imgur.com/a/sHhCD
14 September 2016 23:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
or if You prefer, then Creepy:
https://www.freesound.org/search/?q=creepy&f=duration%3A%5B0+TO+*%5D&s=duration+desc&advanced=1&a_tag=1&a_filename=1&g=1
https://www.freesound.org/search/?q=creepy&f=duration%3A%5B0+TO+*%5D&s=duration+desc&advanced=1&a_tag=1&a_filename=1&g=1
https://www.freesound.org/search/?q=creepy&f=duration%3A%5B0+TO+%2A%5D&s=duration+desc&advanced=1&a_tag=1&a_filename=1&g=1
14 September 2016 22:12
Margus Meigo commented on IRL - Isamaa ja Res Publica Liit's link.
Kahju, et postimees on liberaalseks (kommunistlikuks, Eestivastaseks) muutnud.
Seda alles nüüd avastanud viimase aasta jooksul.
Kes need uued viamud ja inimesed sääl nüüd tööl on ?
Seda alles nüüd avastanud viimase aasta jooksul.
Kes need uued viamud ja inimesed sääl nüüd tööl on ?
14 September 2016 20:32
Margus Meigo commented on IRL - Isamaa ja Res Publica Liit's link.
Jeerum, milline küsimus, LIBERAALSUS ongi sotsalismi ja kommunismi versioonid ju, ja tööriistad, et eelnimetatud jõudude küüsis inimesi hoida.
14 September 2016 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
They using Sulfur dioxide (SO2) and Sulfur (S),
The carbon dioxide bubbled through the mixture forms calcium carbonate. The non-sugar solids are incorporated into the calcium carbonate particles and removed by natural (or assisted) sedimentation in tanks.
There are several systems of carbonatation, named from the companies that first developed them. They differ in how the lime is introduced, the temperature and duration of each stage, and the separation of the solids from the liquid.
Dorr (also Dorr-Oliver) - a continuous process using two tanks with recycling ("1st carbonatation") to build up particle size for natural flocculation. The recycling ratio is about 7:1. The particles are separated under gravity in a thickening stage in a vessel called a clarifier. The clear juice is then gassed further in another tank ("2nd carbonatation") and filtered. The concentrated mud (underflow) from the clarifier is filtered and/or pressed to recover more liquid. The Dorr process is low in maintenance and man-power but susceptible to filtration problems when frost damaged beets are processed. It is favoured in the UK and the USA.
DDS (Det Danske Sukkerfabrik - "The Danish Sugarfactory") -- multistage process involving pre-liming where the pH of the juice is gradually increased to start precipitation of proteins, followed by addition of further lime and gas. The particles are removed at each stage by filtration.
RT (Raffinerie Tirlemontoise - "Sugar refinery of Tienen") - another multistage process with a pre-liming stage. Particles also removed by filtration.
Both DDS and RT processes are favoured by European factories. The carbonatation system is generally matched to the diffusion scheme; juice from RT diffusers being processed by the RT carbonatation.
The clear juice from carbonatation is generally known as "thin juice". it may undergo pH adjustment with soda ash and addition of sulfur ("sulfitation") prior to the next stage which is concentration by multiple effect evaporation.
But now this talk is also popular: http://www.peta.org/about-peta/faq/are-animal-ingredients-included-in-white-sugar/
The carbon dioxide bubbled through the mixture forms calcium carbonate. The non-sugar solids are incorporated into the calcium carbonate particles and removed by natural (or assisted) sedimentation in tanks.
There are several systems of carbonatation, named from the companies that first developed them. They differ in how the lime is introduced, the temperature and duration of each stage, and the separation of the solids from the liquid.
Dorr (also Dorr-Oliver) - a continuous process using two tanks with recycling ("1st carbonatation") to build up particle size for natural flocculation. The recycling ratio is about 7:1. The particles are separated under gravity in a thickening stage in a vessel called a clarifier. The clear juice is then gassed further in another tank ("2nd carbonatation") and filtered. The concentrated mud (underflow) from the clarifier is filtered and/or pressed to recover more liquid. The Dorr process is low in maintenance and man-power but susceptible to filtration problems when frost damaged beets are processed. It is favoured in the UK and the USA.
DDS (Det Danske Sukkerfabrik - "The Danish Sugarfactory") -- multistage process involving pre-liming where the pH of the juice is gradually increased to start precipitation of proteins, followed by addition of further lime and gas. The particles are removed at each stage by filtration.
RT (Raffinerie Tirlemontoise - "Sugar refinery of Tienen") - another multistage process with a pre-liming stage. Particles also removed by filtration.
Both DDS and RT processes are favoured by European factories. The carbonatation system is generally matched to the diffusion scheme; juice from RT diffusers being processed by the RT carbonatation.
The clear juice from carbonatation is generally known as "thin juice". it may undergo pH adjustment with soda ash and addition of sulfur ("sulfitation") prior to the next stage which is concentration by multiple effect evaporation.
But now this talk is also popular: http://www.peta.org/about-peta/faq/are-animal-ingredients-included-in-white-sugar/
http://www.peta.org/about-peta/faq/are-animal-ingredients-included-in-white-sugar/
14 September 2016 17:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sest need on need vaimud, kellel meeldib näha naist nõrgemana.. ja siis ka noh.. neid muid kellega nad tegelevad..
14 September 2016 13:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ühesõnaga Greeka-Rooma Impeerium,
Gey-sririik..
Gey-sririik..
14 September 2016 13:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja miks ei ravita selliseid inimesi, kes sedasielavad ja räägivad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T35m1h7EtEM
Kas aru ei saada, et see meie inimliigi solkimine ja alavääristamine?
Ainuke lootus on,et sellised on inimkondade., SELLISTE hingede lõppunktid ja nad ei paljune õnneks eriti palju... kuid asi selles, et neid toodetakse muud moodi juurde..
siin ei ole midagi vastikusega pistmist ja ammugi mitte vihaga, eks vastikus ka, vaadata suures pildis.. kuid nagu väga kurb vaadata kui areng ei ole arengu nime vääriline ja keegi ei hooli ka temast piisavalt,et siis öelda ja juhendada, tega uuesti normaalseks tagasi, niipalju kui see võimalik on, nii jutu, maneeri kui muu osas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T35m1h7EtEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T35m1h7EtEM
Kas aru ei saada, et see meie inimliigi solkimine ja alavääristamine?
Ainuke lootus on,et sellised on inimkondade., SELLISTE hingede lõppunktid ja nad ei paljune õnneks eriti palju... kuid asi selles, et neid toodetakse muud moodi juurde..
siin ei ole midagi vastikusega pistmist ja ammugi mitte vihaga, eks vastikus ka, vaadata suures pildis.. kuid nagu väga kurb vaadata kui areng ei ole arengu nime vääriline ja keegi ei hooli ka temast piisavalt,et siis öelda ja juhendada, tega uuesti normaalseks tagasi, niipalju kui see võimalik on, nii jutu, maneeri kui muu osas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T35m1h7EtEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T35m1h7EtEM
14 September 2016 13:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Miks peaks "austus" tekkima selliste asjade kandmise vastu.. selle asemel, et aru saada, see on Kohutav ja hakata neid kingapoode kinni panema ?
Nagu suts tagurpidi see "awareness" vb tuleb sedasi, nodelt siirastelt ja heatahtega meestelt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIa1NYvcS6A
Nagu suts tagurpidi see "awareness" vb tuleb sedasi, nodelt siirastelt ja heatahtega meestelt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIa1NYvcS6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIa1NYvcS6A
14 September 2016 13:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
et nagu..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgzK0BnaJ5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgzK0BnaJ5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgzK0BnaJ5I
14 September 2016 13:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidu lõpetame ringiga tagasi Uuesti selles ajas.. sest juba on hakatud uuesti ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBN8U1nAOIk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBN8U1nAOIk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBN8U1nAOIk
14 September 2016 13:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehkebapraktiline ja lausa kahjulik.
Lihtsalt osad kahjud on sellised mida märkad alles siis kui poolelu möödas on.. ja siis märkad veel.. mida SIIS ilma jäid.. kui Sa POLEKS sellisesse lõksu sattunud.. mis muid inimesi ja olukordisiis oleks olnud.. kui lahtisemad oleks meeled olnud ja mitmed segavad olukorrad olemata olnud..
Naisel niigi vaevasi siin ilmas kus orjatööle sunnitakse, sest meestele antakse nii vähe palka, et naine ka peab ka pool majapidamise raha vahest teenima lisaks Kodu tegemisele.
Lihtsalt osad kahjud on sellised mida märkad alles siis kui poolelu möödas on.. ja siis märkad veel.. mida SIIS ilma jäid.. kui Sa POLEKS sellisesse lõksu sattunud.. mis muid inimesi ja olukordisiis oleks olnud.. kui lahtisemad oleks meeled olnud ja mitmed segavad olukorrad olemata olnud..
Naisel niigi vaevasi siin ilmas kus orjatööle sunnitakse, sest meestele antakse nii vähe palka, et naine ka peab ka pool majapidamise raha vahest teenima lisaks Kodu tegemisele.
14 September 2016 13:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja kes soovib veel kõrgemalt, siis eks see üks tulnukate tehnoloogia ole jälle, kuid miks ja kuidas, ei hakka praegu lahkuma.
Lihtsalt mõistke, et see EBAINIMLIK
Lihtsalt mõistke, et see EBAINIMLIK
14 September 2016 13:10
Margus Meigo commented on Taimi Asu's post.
Group: Eesti ususõjas
Suurem osa isise ajsad on ikka puhast kommunistide propakanda,
räägivad nagusee mingi suur ühine grupp, armee oleks poole millioniga kuskil piiritaga...
üks pätikamp siin ja teine seal, kõiki ainult ühendab jumalavastasus ja meelte segadus, raha ahnus ja viha, ja nende seas palju eriusulisi, kes ise samamoodi, arvavad, et nad iisreali kallale lähevad,sest see jumalavastane nende silmis, ja see on õiglane mõte, miks minna. Palju parem mõte kui minna jumala vastu või seda eitades...
Sest jumalausklikuid, isegi kui vales suunas, saab aidata ja pöörata kergesti, aga kui kamp kivisüdamega ateiste on... siis asi on ohtlikum.. ja pealegi, varsti saavad valmis uued sõjaväed, mis koosnevad robotitest mida lapsed VÄGA edukalt arvutite läbi juivad, USA jms sõjaväelised juba kindlaks teinud, et strateegiate oskus on väga hea lastekollektiiv oskusel. Kui see arvutite ja abikindralitega siduda10 September 2016 16:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Eesti ususõjas
naisest kahju, kuid vast veel hullem oleks joodikust ja vägivaldsest mehe juures olla, kes sõna otseses mõttes kurje vaime iga õhtu sisse topib10 September 2016 16:35
Margus Meigo commented on Taimi Asu's post.
Group: Eesti ususõjas
Viisnurk, pentagram ka kenasti õlal ja.. väga kenad pildid, nende vallutajate osas10 September 2016 16:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Too koht üks hea seenekoht, aga see sutsu kaugel: https://youtu.be/XQNpNDHJKnY?t=16m33s
https://youtu.be/XQNpNDHJKnY?t=16m33s
10 September 2016 15:49
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Node muudega jah, ma nende kasutust pole leidnud seega ma neid ei märka, et pole veel keegi nii marru ajanud, et neile seda vaja oleks anda..
kuid ämmadele ikka parimaid seeni anda tuleb, et armastus kasvaks, nii siniseid kui punaseid
kuid ämmadele ikka parimaid seeni anda tuleb, et armastus kasvaks, nii siniseid kui punaseid
10 September 2016 15:42
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
suurtemates kogustes süües, muidugi ka vaimumaailma õppimiseks ja pealemäärides tervistav, talvel toonust tõstev.
Kuid põhiliselt on maitselt hea, ja lõhnalt
Kuid põhiliselt on maitselt hea, ja lõhnalt
10 September 2016 14:44
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
mulle maitse väga meeldib
10 September 2016 14:43
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
söömiseks päris head
10 September 2016 14:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja muidugi, kassetiplayer, mis suudab mp3 eks asju konvertida, kena väikse välimusega, $2 dollarit (täpselt sama asi maksis kuni $35 Amazonis). 10ne ostmisel. Ikka tuleb odavam kui üks osta.
Convert your old mix tapes and cassette to MP3 to Playback on iPod/MP3 player or burn to CD
3.5mm earphone jack
Plug and play USB device, no drivers required
Audio output enables you to listen on your stereo, headphones, or other speaker system
Audio editing software included
Rediscover your old cassette tapes on the go
Portable design fits in virtually any bag and enables you to play and transfer anywhere
Flexible battery or USB-powered operation
Comes with tape converter software to guide you through transfer
Package Content:
1 x USB Cassette Capture
1 x User Guide
1 x USB cable
1 x Headphones
1 x Software CD
http://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/Casette-Player-For-Laptop-Computer-Personal_60435860871.html?spm=a2700.7782932.1998701000.4.Y9xtHM
Convert your old mix tapes and cassette to MP3 to Playback on iPod/MP3 player or burn to CD
3.5mm earphone jack
Plug and play USB device, no drivers required
Audio output enables you to listen on your stereo, headphones, or other speaker system
Audio editing software included
Rediscover your old cassette tapes on the go
Portable design fits in virtually any bag and enables you to play and transfer anywhere
Flexible battery or USB-powered operation
Comes with tape converter software to guide you through transfer
Package Content:
1 x USB Cassette Capture
1 x User Guide
1 x USB cable
1 x Headphones
1 x Software CD
http://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/Casette-Player-For-Laptop-Computer-Personal_60435860871.html?spm=a2700.7782932.1998701000.4.Y9xtHM
10 September 2016 14:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 September 2016 14:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Samal ajal, otse Hiinlastelt osta, siis saab 19 kuni 40 dollariga sellise asja:
1.33 / 45 / 78 RPM selectable speed; Plays 7", 10"&12" Records;
2.PLL AM/FM and FM Stereo radio(If remove, reduce 1.5usd);
3.Direct USB/SD slot player.Support USB3.0;
4.Direct USB/SD encoding for turntable,cassette ,Aux in;
5.3.5mm Aux in Jack ,easy to connect from your Ipod, mp3 ect;
6.With 3.5mm headphone jack to connect Ipod,mp3;
7.With RCA audio output connection of other device or spearkers ;
8.LCD display 50*30MM;
9.With 2 built-in stereo speakers,Speakers spec:4Ω,3W,2x1.5 RMS output;
10.The pause and automatically stop LP system;
11.Cassette player with fast-forward function.(If remove, reduce 1.5usd);
12.Color: black,red, cherry, oak or customized;
Optional Radio or cassette function
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Rain-Lane-Portable-Audio-Player-Retro_60459262375.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.q04Wig
1.33 / 45 / 78 RPM selectable speed; Plays 7", 10"&12" Records;
2.PLL AM/FM and FM Stereo radio(If remove, reduce 1.5usd);
3.Direct USB/SD slot player.Support USB3.0;
4.Direct USB/SD encoding for turntable,cassette ,Aux in;
5.3.5mm Aux in Jack ,easy to connect from your Ipod, mp3 ect;
6.With 3.5mm headphone jack to connect Ipod,mp3;
7.With RCA audio output connection of other device or spearkers ;
8.LCD display 50*30MM;
9.With 2 built-in stereo speakers,Speakers spec:4Ω,3W,2x1.5 RMS output;
10.The pause and automatically stop LP system;
11.Cassette player with fast-forward function.(If remove, reduce 1.5usd);
12.Color: black,red, cherry, oak or customized;
Optional Radio or cassette function
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Rain-Lane-Portable-Audio-Player-Retro_60459262375.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.q04Wig
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Rain-Lane-Portable-Audio-Player-Retro_60459262375.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.q04Wig
10 September 2016 14:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see asi veel, et digitaal helita heli muidugi raske leida vist tänapäeval.. et ega ta sama effekti ei anna täielikult manuaaliks üle pannes,
kuid muidu jah, need eelmised suurteooriad mis siin arutatud sai, asi selles... et selle digitaal ja manuaal audio vahe on selline oluline, mida praegu seletada veel ei oska õigesti, lisaks tavapärasele audiofiilide infole.
Kuid jaa.. info kandub olukordades sügavamini ja kindlamalt, ja baite mitte häirivalt, (mitte häkitavalt) ... kuid need hoopis asjad mida muus ruumides vaja rääkida ja tajuda.
Ühesõnaga väga esoteerilises maailmas, midagi sellist toimub, et mehaanilisem audio pääseb hingele ligemale ja on raskem takistada kui digitaalide kaudu tulev audio, millest saab vahendaja paar sammu kergemini ette jõuda, sest ei ole lisa spektrumit "müra" mida peab arvestama, on kindlas koguses nullid ja ühed. mida lihtne ennetada ja enne kuskile jõudmist ümber keerata, sellepärast ka suurem osa muusikat ei saa enam nii sügavutti meiesse jõuda ja uutesse ammugi mitte.
Paljud enam ei teagi, et muusikat saab tunetada ja selles sees kommunikeerida ühtse teadvusruumina, kõrgteadvuses, ning alla laadida tolle hingega seotud kõrghingelisi mõtteid (ehk siis headust, südamepuhtust).
Ka Su oma lindistust, soovitame jätta mõne kasseti,
Üks hirmuteooria pidi veel olema, et olevat võimalik kosmoses miskit muuta, et ku isee muutub, (mitte, et me siin muudaksime..) siis digitaalne informatsioon ei pidavat loetav enam olema.
Kuig ehk seda ei tehta, kui selle headuse väärtust tõestada suudame, üle massilise kahju ja pealiskaudsustamise.
Kahjuks muidugi ei leidnud, vajalikku infot.. kus miskisugune molekulstrutuur üle planeedi muudeti ajutiselt, mis kogu reaktsiooni pommide osas oleks pidanud olematuks tegema (samas mõtlen, et kuidas siis elektrijaamad jms toimisid edasi, kas plahvatuse ja selle plahavtuse mikro koguses mis reaktoris toimumise vahe saab olla midagi, mida elektroonide ümberpaigutamisega saab muuta, ilam muud elu segamata ja jaamasi tööle jättes.. (lihtsalt out of the box, et siinkohal ei tasu takerduda mõttesse, KAS saab muuta, vaid et saqab, kuid kas muudetud osa ka siis muud elu ajutiselt häiriks. See muudatus olevat tehtud jälle viimanekord, kui neid relvi aktiviseerida sooviti.))
Eks ta üks pla pla ole, kuid arvestades mida näinud on need, kes mitu ruumi väljaspool reisinud, ..siis siin ika midagi kuulata on.
Kuigi, need jutud on pehmed ja kerged:
"Over the past few years, several Air Force personnel have come forward to confirm that something did happen, and in 2010 Salas was part of a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., that included these personnel. You can watch that full conference below"
// siinkohal ei tule niivõrd oma usku küsitleda, vaid seda, MIKS sellisel tasemel inimesed, selliseid jutte räägivad, mis neil plaanis on...
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/11/10/why-are-ufos-shutting-down-our-nuclear-missiles/
"“Significantly, the UFO activity occasionally transcends mere surveillance and involves direct and unambiguous interference with our strategic weapons systems. Numerous cases include reports of mysterious malfunctions of large numbers of nuclear missiles just as one or more UFOs hovered nearby.” (Declassified Soviet Ministry of Defense documents confirm that such incidents also occurred in the former USSR."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkeWfi_JCmA
/// mõni arvab, et ju need sakslased ole :p
"All the skeletons were flattened to the ground. For example, a father, mother and child were found flattened in the street, facedown and still holding hands. Interestingly, the ancient texts refer repeatedly to the Vimanas, or the flying cars, which fly under their own power, he added."
"the melting of bricks at Mohenjo Daro could not have been caused by a normal fire..."
"it's possible that what happened at Mohenjo Daro was not a natural phenomenon"
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/arqueologia/esp_mohenjo_daro_1.htm
kuid muidu jah, need eelmised suurteooriad mis siin arutatud sai, asi selles... et selle digitaal ja manuaal audio vahe on selline oluline, mida praegu seletada veel ei oska õigesti, lisaks tavapärasele audiofiilide infole.
Kuid jaa.. info kandub olukordades sügavamini ja kindlamalt, ja baite mitte häirivalt, (mitte häkitavalt) ... kuid need hoopis asjad mida muus ruumides vaja rääkida ja tajuda.
Ühesõnaga väga esoteerilises maailmas, midagi sellist toimub, et mehaanilisem audio pääseb hingele ligemale ja on raskem takistada kui digitaalide kaudu tulev audio, millest saab vahendaja paar sammu kergemini ette jõuda, sest ei ole lisa spektrumit "müra" mida peab arvestama, on kindlas koguses nullid ja ühed. mida lihtne ennetada ja enne kuskile jõudmist ümber keerata, sellepärast ka suurem osa muusikat ei saa enam nii sügavutti meiesse jõuda ja uutesse ammugi mitte.
Paljud enam ei teagi, et muusikat saab tunetada ja selles sees kommunikeerida ühtse teadvusruumina, kõrgteadvuses, ning alla laadida tolle hingega seotud kõrghingelisi mõtteid (ehk siis headust, südamepuhtust).
Ka Su oma lindistust, soovitame jätta mõne kasseti,
Üks hirmuteooria pidi veel olema, et olevat võimalik kosmoses miskit muuta, et ku isee muutub, (mitte, et me siin muudaksime..) siis digitaalne informatsioon ei pidavat loetav enam olema.
Kuig ehk seda ei tehta, kui selle headuse väärtust tõestada suudame, üle massilise kahju ja pealiskaudsustamise.
Kahjuks muidugi ei leidnud, vajalikku infot.. kus miskisugune molekulstrutuur üle planeedi muudeti ajutiselt, mis kogu reaktsiooni pommide osas oleks pidanud olematuks tegema (samas mõtlen, et kuidas siis elektrijaamad jms toimisid edasi, kas plahvatuse ja selle plahavtuse mikro koguses mis reaktoris toimumise vahe saab olla midagi, mida elektroonide ümberpaigutamisega saab muuta, ilam muud elu segamata ja jaamasi tööle jättes.. (lihtsalt out of the box, et siinkohal ei tasu takerduda mõttesse, KAS saab muuta, vaid et saqab, kuid kas muudetud osa ka siis muud elu ajutiselt häiriks. See muudatus olevat tehtud jälle viimanekord, kui neid relvi aktiviseerida sooviti.))
Eks ta üks pla pla ole, kuid arvestades mida näinud on need, kes mitu ruumi väljaspool reisinud, ..siis siin ika midagi kuulata on.
Kuigi, need jutud on pehmed ja kerged:
"Over the past few years, several Air Force personnel have come forward to confirm that something did happen, and in 2010 Salas was part of a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., that included these personnel. You can watch that full conference below"
// siinkohal ei tule niivõrd oma usku küsitleda, vaid seda, MIKS sellisel tasemel inimesed, selliseid jutte räägivad, mis neil plaanis on...
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/11/10/why-are-ufos-shutting-down-our-nuclear-missiles/
"“Significantly, the UFO activity occasionally transcends mere surveillance and involves direct and unambiguous interference with our strategic weapons systems. Numerous cases include reports of mysterious malfunctions of large numbers of nuclear missiles just as one or more UFOs hovered nearby.” (Declassified Soviet Ministry of Defense documents confirm that such incidents also occurred in the former USSR."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkeWfi_JCmA
/// mõni arvab, et ju need sakslased ole :p
"All the skeletons were flattened to the ground. For example, a father, mother and child were found flattened in the street, facedown and still holding hands. Interestingly, the ancient texts refer repeatedly to the Vimanas, or the flying cars, which fly under their own power, he added."
"the melting of bricks at Mohenjo Daro could not have been caused by a normal fire..."
"it's possible that what happened at Mohenjo Daro was not a natural phenomenon"
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/arqueologia/esp_mohenjo_daro_1.htm
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/11/10/why-are-ufos-shutting-down-our-nuclear-missiles/
10 September 2016 12:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
10 September 2016 11:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey, realistlikud hinnad muidugi sellised:
$20 + ... kuid ikkagi... njea
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_3?rh=n%3A172282%2Cn%3A%21493964%2Cn%3A172623%2Cn%3A172628&page=3&sort=price-asc-rank&ie=UTF8&qid=1473497416
$20 + ... kuid ikkagi... njea
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_3?rh=n%3A172282%2Cn%3A%21493964%2Cn%3A172623%2Cn%3A172628&page=3&sort=price-asc-rank&ie=UTF8&qid=1473497416
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_3?rh=n%3A172282%2Cn%3A%21493964%2Cn%3A172623%2Cn%3A172628&page=3&sort=price-asc-rank&ie=UTF8&qid=1473497416
10 September 2016 11:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi see juba päris äge:
Panasonic RQSW99VK Brain Shaker Extreme Personal Stereo (Black/Red)
$500
Red-and-black ShockWave AM/FM cassette sports radio
Brain Shaker Extreme virtual-motion headphones deliver deep, resonant bass
Full-function cassette player with auto reverse and 3-track tape program search
Digitally synthesized tuner with 20 radio presets
Includes Brain Shaker Extreme headphones and built-in hook for a strap
https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-RQSW99VK-Shaker-Extreme-Personal/dp/B00004T1X5/ref=sr_1_15?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1473497173&sr=1-15
Panasonic RQSW99VK Brain Shaker Extreme Personal Stereo (Black/Red)
$500
Red-and-black ShockWave AM/FM cassette sports radio
Brain Shaker Extreme virtual-motion headphones deliver deep, resonant bass
Full-function cassette player with auto reverse and 3-track tape program search
Digitally synthesized tuner with 20 radio presets
Includes Brain Shaker Extreme headphones and built-in hook for a strap
https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-RQSW99VK-Shaker-Extreme-Personal/dp/B00004T1X5/ref=sr_1_15?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1473497173&sr=1-15
https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-RQSW99VK-Shaker-Extreme-Personal/dp/B00004T1X5/ref=sr_1_15?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1473497173&sr=1-15
10 September 2016 11:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Panasonic RQ-A220 Cassette Player / Recorder
$700
Stereo cassette recorder with built-in condenser microphone;
AM/FM tuner with slide-rule tuning
3x record time slows tape speed to accommodate lengthy recording programs
Up to 24 hours playback and 20 hours recording with 2 AA batteries (not supplied) :D (see oleks liialt veel selle hinna sees batareisi poota)
Includes hand strap and stereo headphones
https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-RQ-A220-Cassette-Player-Recorder/dp/B00008N6XJ/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1473496931&sr=1-5
$700
Stereo cassette recorder with built-in condenser microphone;
AM/FM tuner with slide-rule tuning
3x record time slows tape speed to accommodate lengthy recording programs
Up to 24 hours playback and 20 hours recording with 2 AA batteries (not supplied) :D (see oleks liialt veel selle hinna sees batareisi poota)
Includes hand strap and stereo headphones
https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-RQ-A220-Cassette-Player-Recorder/dp/B00008N6XJ/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1473496931&sr=1-5
https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-RQ-A220-Cassette-Player-Recorder/dp/B00008N6XJ/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1473496931&sr=1-5
10 September 2016 11:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Or.. $330 to 400$
Panasonic RQSW33V Shockwave Personal Stereo
https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-RQSW33V-Shockwave-Personal-Stereo/dp/B00001QEAU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1473496759&sr=1-1
Panasonic RQSW33V Shockwave Personal Stereo
https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-RQSW33V-Shockwave-Personal-Stereo/dp/B00001QEAU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1473496759&sr=1-1
https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-RQSW33V-Shockwave-Personal-Stereo/dp/B00001QEAU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1473496759&sr=1-1
10 September 2016 11:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Siia võib panna?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-O_XZwnvsEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-O_XZwnvsE
10 September 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo replied to Triin Kliss's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
ei noh, mis ma neist teistest ikka otsin.. ikka kärbseseen mis söögiks ja kasutuseks on.9 September 2016 18:52
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Kallaste's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Nu jah, enamasti inimesed teevad asja endal keeruliseks, sest elementaarne maine usuline põhi on puudu, ehk siis ei osata reaalselt juba ammu enne millegi nägemisest arumõista, et ON muud ja suuremad maailmad, on paha ja hea, õige ja vale, mitmed kihid mitmes maailmas ja mitme nurga alt, eri teadvuste ja arengutasemetega eri maailmade vaatamine ja tõlgendamine läbi erinevate programmide ja kultuuriliste koodide ning vajadustega.
Kui inimesel piibel elementaarselt selge on, ta ei pea seda olema isegi läbi lugenud, lihtsalt mõistnud, et mis see on, siis ka täieliku algajana tal puuduvad suurem osa probleeme mis on psühhoosis ja muidu turistidel kes ei suuda aktsepteerida iseenda ja maailma mustust ning vaevu hoomatavat ilu.
Niigi on raske saada inimesi noide asjade juurde, ja pigem riskida inimese täieliku laostamisega kui sellega, et ta kogu elu hingetult elab, ning maailma kurja juurde toodab või oma elu tühjalt elab unistades enesetapust.
Sellepärast ma ka ise olen tugevalt uskliku inimesena (jah Piibli) selle poolt, et nii kärbseseeni kui ka teravpaljakuid (mis ma ütleks, et on kergemad, turvalisemad ... füüsiliste õppetundide osas)
tuleks ka täitsa algajatele anda , nii väikeses kui suurtes kogustes.
See minu otsus inimeste üle mida ma rakendan.
Põhiline viga on, et kui inimesel asjad sassi lähevad, siis unustatakse nende samade asjadega teda uuesti üle ravida, veelgi suuremate kogustega, paar kolm korda.
Selles peaks kohe alguses kokku leppima, paberile kirjutama, tasusse pistma ja veel elektrooniline meeldetuletus aasta ette panema, märkusega "kas tegid nii kuis vaja... sest.."
lsd jms osas muidugi see mure, et tollega olenevalt asukohast, tõesti tundub, et hing on väga lihtsasti kadumise äärel ja mitmed korrad mõelnud: kuidas saab üldse olla võimalik, et SELLINE võimsus, ja hoomamatu tehnoloogia saab olla inimlastele kättesaadav.
Samas tavalistes kogustes, to on täiesti ohupuudulikuse ligi ja tugevalt soovitatav igale inimesele kellel ühiskonnaga probleeme.
Väga mitmed suunad, kuid kaks põhilist suunda on looduses tekiga, või voodis pikali, silmad kinni. Esimesed mõned korrad. Liha, alkohol, kohvi jms menüüst soovitavalt nädalaksese paar enne välja. Ning halasta, ja soovi seda mida Sulle vaja ning oma tahtmist mida maailmas teha soovid. Mis oleks kasvõi muinasjutuline, kuid lõppeesmärgiga teiste suunas ja ennast nende jaoks paremaks muutev. PEAB olema ka soov pere armastus korda saada!
(eks on ka muid retsepte see "minu"...)
Ülejäänus juba usalda vaimuilma enda vajadusi ja tarkusi.
Ma usun, et palju suurem oht ja mure on selles, et inimene ei saa noile asjadele ligi, kui see, et to valesti kasutab midagi... ikka jumala kätte usaldada need kasutused, ja senikaua kui inimene ise ausalt lubab, ennast juhtida õigetel jõududel, siis ikka saab mida vaja.
Kuid jah.. nagu ma ütlesin, põhi mure on selles, et ei lepita kohe kokku järel-reiside osas.. jäätakse ehmatuse või hirmuga ennast kuskile poolepeale kõlkuma.
Rahvas on ikka väga kriisis selles osas, et pool vägivaldselt ei mõisteta, et on rohkem kui ruudud vihikus ja seda nemad vägivaldselt peale suruvad, kuni sinnamaani kuni telekatest ja poodidest lubatakse jagada massiliselt asju, mida inimkond ei vaja, kuni sinnamaani peame tõsiselt tööd tegema.
Viimasele esmakordsele kasutaja, andsin tugevaid kuivatatud siniseid seeni peaaegu 20 grammi. Väheks jäi.
Lastele olen ka jagan, nendel toimub see kõik täiesti naturaalselt ja targalt.
Kuid jah, liialt vähe ja liialt aralt teeme kampaaniat selle kõige osas, samal ajal kui elul hallitada ja naiste valul kasvada laseme, mõeldes ainiti kuidas me ise "rohkem" korras oleme..9 September 2016 13:35
Margus Meigo replied to Mart Laisk's comment.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Asjalik jutt : )9 September 2016 13:07
Margus Meigo commented on InGrid Prass's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Nu punane kärseseen on ikka üks põhiline,
üks maitsvamaid seeni, paremini lõhnavamaid (tunned kui küpsetad, kukeseen vast aint kandideerib) ja lisaks füüsilisele mitmesugusele ravile ikka üks vaieldamatult esirinnas olev seen vaimumaailma uste jaoks.
Muidugi kui nädalasele rännakule minna (järjest nädalaega süüa) siis vast tuleb kasuks kindlasti enne siniste seentega end harida ja muidu piibliga kursis olla, selles osas, et kuidas käituda ja austada.9 September 2016 13:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kiiretele multiprotsessoritele:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j20xjhVIec&index=6&list=RDcvvd-9azD1M
Ooh baby
Come to me baby just come to me
Don't brake my heart tonight
Swinging my soul desire
Baby just come to me
Be what you wanna be
Using your fantasy
I need your soul to see
Baby just come to me
Now we can do it right
Holding each other tight
Now we can make it right
I promise you delight
Waiting until day light
I gotta have the key
To open your heart to me
Now i can set you free
Be what you wanna be
Don't wanna live alone
I gotta be so strong
Don't wanna be alone
Baby i love you so
And never let you go
I'm looking for your face
Waiting for warm embrace
I'm living in the space
I'm following your trace
Tell me what's going
On tell me what's going on
I'm gonna make you queen
Girl have you ever seen
I never think you wanna
We won't belong
I can see your face too strong
I sing you wanna think
You'll be wide on mind
Don't you ever satisfy my soul in any
By my side, I'm not laughing
I'm not crying
Don't you go
Baby i love you so
And never let you go
I'm looking for your face
Waiting for warm embrace
I'm living in the space
I'm following your trace
Tell me what's going
On tell me what's going on
I'm gonna make you queen
Girl have you ever seen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j20xjhVIec&index=6&list=RDcvvd-9azD1M
Ooh baby
Come to me baby just come to me
Don't brake my heart tonight
Swinging my soul desire
Baby just come to me
Be what you wanna be
Using your fantasy
I need your soul to see
Baby just come to me
Now we can do it right
Holding each other tight
Now we can make it right
I promise you delight
Waiting until day light
I gotta have the key
To open your heart to me
Now i can set you free
Be what you wanna be
Don't wanna live alone
I gotta be so strong
Don't wanna be alone
Baby i love you so
And never let you go
I'm looking for your face
Waiting for warm embrace
I'm living in the space
I'm following your trace
Tell me what's going
On tell me what's going on
I'm gonna make you queen
Girl have you ever seen
I never think you wanna
We won't belong
I can see your face too strong
I sing you wanna think
You'll be wide on mind
Don't you ever satisfy my soul in any
By my side, I'm not laughing
I'm not crying
Don't you go
Baby i love you so
And never let you go
I'm looking for your face
Waiting for warm embrace
I'm living in the space
I'm following your trace
Tell me what's going
On tell me what's going on
I'm gonna make you queen
Girl have you ever seen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j20xjhVIec&index=6&list=RDcvvd-9azD1M
9 September 2016 11:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid ja, arvestades mida me kõike maailmast teame, ja religioonist ja maavälisest meeles peame,
siis mida sellest aru oleme võimelised saama ... kuidas nii palju paari joonega teha on saadud, see vist maailma rekord väheseima joonte ja suurima loo sügavuse osas, mida siiani kohanud olen, absoluutne julge vaimne geenius.
Kuid jah... hüva lendu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD0Mm6WIcYs&list=RDcvvd-9azD1M
I still believe in your eyes
I just don't care what you've done in your life
Baby I'll always be here by your side
Don't leave me waiting too long, please come by
I-I-I-I still believe in your eyes
There is no choice, I belong to your life
Because I will live to love you someday
You'll be my baby and we'll fly away
And i'll fly with you-ou
I'll fly with you-ou-ou
I'll fly with you-ou-ou-ou
I'll fly with you
I'll fly with you
I'll fly with you
Every day and every night
I always dream that you are by my side
Oh, baby, every day and every night
Well I said everything's gonna be alright
And i'll fly with you-ou-ou
I'll fly with you-ou-ou-ou
I'll fly with you-ou-ou-ou-ou
siis mida sellest aru oleme võimelised saama ... kuidas nii palju paari joonega teha on saadud, see vist maailma rekord väheseima joonte ja suurima loo sügavuse osas, mida siiani kohanud olen, absoluutne julge vaimne geenius.
Kuid jah... hüva lendu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD0Mm6WIcYs&list=RDcvvd-9azD1M
I still believe in your eyes
I just don't care what you've done in your life
Baby I'll always be here by your side
Don't leave me waiting too long, please come by
I-I-I-I still believe in your eyes
There is no choice, I belong to your life
Because I will live to love you someday
You'll be my baby and we'll fly away
And i'll fly with you-ou
I'll fly with you-ou-ou
I'll fly with you-ou-ou-ou
I'll fly with you
I'll fly with you
I'll fly with you
Every day and every night
I always dream that you are by my side
Oh, baby, every day and every night
Well I said everything's gonna be alright
And i'll fly with you-ou-ou
I'll fly with you-ou-ou-ou
I'll fly with you-ou-ou-ou-ou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD0Mm6WIcYs&list=RDcvvd-9azD1M
9 September 2016 11:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aa tüüpiline,
""Gigi D' Agosti..." See video pole enam saadaval, kuna ZYX MUSIC GmbH & Co. KG esitas selle kohta autoriõiguste nõude. "
Miline autor PÄRISELT ise enda loomingu osas esitaks nõude maha võtta, eriti kui 10 aastat vana loo keskmise kvaliteediga versiooni mida ainult veel YTst sai leida.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvvd-9azD1M&list=RDcvvd-9azD1M
""Gigi D' Agosti..." See video pole enam saadaval, kuna ZYX MUSIC GmbH & Co. KG esitas selle kohta autoriõiguste nõude. "
Miline autor PÄRISELT ise enda loomingu osas esitaks nõude maha võtta, eriti kui 10 aastat vana loo keskmise kvaliteediga versiooni mida ainult veel YTst sai leida.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvvd-9azD1M&list=RDcvvd-9azD1M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvvd-9azD1M&list=RDcvvd-9azD1M
9 September 2016 11:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mida sa mõtled??? (!) ? .. ??
https://www.facebook.com/events/590503744439755/
(link tegelikult näitusest, kus... : Näitus "Man never think" tekitab atmosfääri, kus reaalsus on vaakumis ruumi erinevate organite vahel, üks organ on teisest miljonite ja triljonite meetrite kaugusel, minu ja sinu vahel on ruum, mida ei saa arvutada ega kontrollida ei hermeetiliselt ega kognitiivselt ega meie keha ega aju ega hinge, ideoloogiliselt.
On meeletu seletada rasket võrrandit .. Kognetiivne võime on alati pidevas muutumises, need tulenevad teistest ideedest ja järelikult reaalsus tuleneb teisest reaalsusest, mis on moodustatud kihtidest, võimatu on seletada sinu tegevust... me ei vaata oma silmadega, me ei tunne lõhnu oma ninaga, me ei söö oma näljaga... me ei katsu oma kätega ja ei kuule oma kõrvadega. ..)
"mõtlesin" et läheks nagu teemasse...
Kuid jha.. ma just siis siin "Mõtleisn" et nagu mehed ju ainult pidevalt mõtlevatki, kas mitte see see mure olnud, armuloomade silmis ?
https://www.facebook.com/events/590503744439755/
(link tegelikult näitusest, kus... : Näitus "Man never think" tekitab atmosfääri, kus reaalsus on vaakumis ruumi erinevate organite vahel, üks organ on teisest miljonite ja triljonite meetrite kaugusel, minu ja sinu vahel on ruum, mida ei saa arvutada ega kontrollida ei hermeetiliselt ega kognitiivselt ega meie keha ega aju ega hinge, ideoloogiliselt.
On meeletu seletada rasket võrrandit .. Kognetiivne võime on alati pidevas muutumises, need tulenevad teistest ideedest ja järelikult reaalsus tuleneb teisest reaalsusest, mis on moodustatud kihtidest, võimatu on seletada sinu tegevust... me ei vaata oma silmadega, me ei tunne lõhnu oma ninaga, me ei söö oma näljaga... me ei katsu oma kätega ja ei kuule oma kõrvadega. ..)
"mõtlesin" et läheks nagu teemasse...
Kuid jha.. ma just siis siin "Mõtleisn" et nagu mehed ju ainult pidevalt mõtlevatki, kas mitte see see mure olnud, armuloomade silmis ?
21 January 2016 19:00
7 September 2016 20:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://health.howstuffworks.com/human-body/systems/digestive/smell-poop-inhaling-poop-molecules.htm
"A closer examination revealed the bacteria were typically found only in the intestines and on the skin. Turns out, if someone farts naked near your nose, you could actually inhale bacteria contained in airborne, bacteria-laden droplets of poop"
Lisaks elementaarsele.. et mida tunned.. selle aatomikesed on ju õhus.. oeh..
"A closer examination revealed the bacteria were typically found only in the intestines and on the skin. Turns out, if someone farts naked near your nose, you could actually inhale bacteria contained in airborne, bacteria-laden droplets of poop"
Lisaks elementaarsele.. et mida tunned.. selle aatomikesed on ju õhus.. oeh..
http://health.howstuffworks.com/human-body/systems/digestive/smell-poop-inhaling-poop-molecules.htm
7 September 2016 19:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
VÄÄRARUSAAMU NAISTE VASTU SUUNATUD VÄGIVALLA KOHTA
Naine kutsub ise esile vägivaldse käitumise.
Selle arvamuse järgi naine provotseerib meest vägivaldselt käituma oma pideva torisemise, vastuhakkamise, märkuste tegemise, kurtmise ja nõudmistega. Nii nähakse naist süüdlasena toimunud vägivallas, meest aga kui naise ohvrit ja vägivalla eest mittevastutajat.
Keegi ei ole vägivalda ära teeninud! Kui teise inimese käitumine häirib, siis saab reageerida vägivallatult. Vägivaldne mees on see, kes otsib põhjust oma agressiooni välja valada.
Kui naine muudab ennast, püüab olla parem abikaasa, hoolitseb rohkem oma mehe eest, muutub ka mees.
Tegelikkuses ei ole mehe vägivaldse käitumise põhjus naises, ükskõik, mida naine ka teeb või kuidas käitub. Mehe kiitmine, tema nõudmiste järgimine või ka vastuhakk ei vii vägivalla lõppemiseni. Iseennast ja oma käitumist muutes ei ole võimalik muuta teist inimest. Vägivald paarisuhtes ei lõpe iseenesest. Naise vaikimine ja juhtunu väljakannatamine on justkui vesi vägivallatseja veskile. Väärkohtlejat julgustab teadmine, et juhtunu ei tule avalikuks ning selle eest ei saa karistada.
Mehe kahetsus ja süümepiinad tähendavad, et ta on muutunud.
Pärast järjekordset rünnakut kahetsusfaasis viibides võib mees ise siiralt uskuda, et see oli viimane kord. Kuid sellised andekspalumised ja lubadused lähevad varsti meelest, koguneb uus vimm, mis süvenedes avaldub uue vägivallaintsidendina. Täiskasvanud väljakujunenud isiksust on väga raske muuta, eriti kui tegemist on pikaajalise vägivaldse käitumise harjumusega. Siin oleks vaja professionaalset abi.
Naine kutsub ise esile vägivaldse käitumise.
Selle arvamuse järgi naine provotseerib meest vägivaldselt käituma oma pideva torisemise, vastuhakkamise, märkuste tegemise, kurtmise ja nõudmistega. Nii nähakse naist süüdlasena toimunud vägivallas, meest aga kui naise ohvrit ja vägivalla eest mittevastutajat.
Keegi ei ole vägivalda ära teeninud! Kui teise inimese käitumine häirib, siis saab reageerida vägivallatult. Vägivaldne mees on see, kes otsib põhjust oma agressiooni välja valada.
Kui naine muudab ennast, püüab olla parem abikaasa, hoolitseb rohkem oma mehe eest, muutub ka mees.
Tegelikkuses ei ole mehe vägivaldse käitumise põhjus naises, ükskõik, mida naine ka teeb või kuidas käitub. Mehe kiitmine, tema nõudmiste järgimine või ka vastuhakk ei vii vägivalla lõppemiseni. Iseennast ja oma käitumist muutes ei ole võimalik muuta teist inimest. Vägivald paarisuhtes ei lõpe iseenesest. Naise vaikimine ja juhtunu väljakannatamine on justkui vesi vägivallatseja veskile. Väärkohtlejat julgustab teadmine, et juhtunu ei tule avalikuks ning selle eest ei saa karistada.
Mehe kahetsus ja süümepiinad tähendavad, et ta on muutunud.
Pärast järjekordset rünnakut kahetsusfaasis viibides võib mees ise siiralt uskuda, et see oli viimane kord. Kuid sellised andekspalumised ja lubadused lähevad varsti meelest, koguneb uus vimm, mis süvenedes avaldub uue vägivallaintsidendina. Täiskasvanud väljakujunenud isiksust on väga raske muuta, eriti kui tegemist on pikaajalise vägivaldse käitumise harjumusega. Siin oleks vaja professionaalset abi.
7 September 2016 12:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Partneri pidev kontrollimine.
Mees tahab pidevalt teada, mida naine teeb ja seab ta liikumisele piiranguid, näiteks ootab, et naine täpsel ajal töölt koju tuleks.
Moonutatud nägemus endast.
Vägivaldset meest võib iseloomustada enesekeskne ja ülespuhutud minapilt. Ta ei taju end vägivaldsena ega pruugi näha oma vägivalla tagajärgi.
Priviligeerituse tunne.
Mees usub, et temale kuuluvad teatud õigused ja privileegid, mis ei laiene teistele pereliikmetele. Pereelu keerleb sellise mehe ümber.
Tugev omanditunne.
Vägivaldne mees tajub lapsi ja naist justkui endale kuuluvana, mistõttu eeldab ka nende allumist enda soovidele ja korraldustele.
Ebarealistlikud ootused ja kõrged nõudmised pereliikmete käitumise suhtes.
Vägivaldne mees ootab (peab iseenesestmõistetavaks), et naine ja teised pereliikmed täidavad tema käske. Nõudmiste mittetäitmisele võib järgneda “karistus”. Teiste soove ja vajadusi ta ei taha/oska märgata ega pea oluliseks nendega tegelemist.
Armastuse ja vägivalla segiajamine.
Mees põhjendab vägivalla kasutamist naise armastamise ja temast hoolimisega.
Manipuleerimine.
Vägivaldne mees võib naisega manipuleerida, selleks et tema käitumist kontrollida või temas segadust tekitada.
Vägivalla kasutamise õigustamine ja vabandamine.
Toime pandud vägivalda kaldub mees eitama või tühisemana näitama, end seal juures õigustades, ohvrit süüdistades ja juhtunule väliseid vabandusi leides (nt alkoholijoove, raske tööpäev, töötus, pealetükkivad sõbrad vms).
Ekstreemne armukadedus.
Vägivaldset meest iseloomustab liialdatud armukadedus, kusjuures ta võib olla armukade isegi partneri sõprade ja sugulaste suhtes.
Naise autoriteedi õõnestamine.
Vägivaldne mees võib kritiseerida naist (laste ema), nimetada teda laste juuresolekul rumalaks, saamatuks ja halvaks lapsevanemaks, kasutada sõimunimesid.
Patriarhaalsed hoiakud ja rõhutatult traditsioonilised soorollid.
Võrreldes mittevägivaldsete meestega usuvad vägivaldsed mehed oluliselt enam, et mees on peres pea, ainuisikuline otsustaja ja suhetes domineeriv. Naine on aga isik, kes peab alluma mehe poolt kehtestatud korrale.
Kahepalgelisus.
Võõrastega, sh ametiisikutega suheldes võib vägivaldne mees jätta väga viisaka, hooliva ja rahumeelse inimese mulje. Ka võõraste juuresolekul võib ta naisega käituda hoopis teisiti kui kodus, kus tunnistajaid ei ole.
Mees tahab pidevalt teada, mida naine teeb ja seab ta liikumisele piiranguid, näiteks ootab, et naine täpsel ajal töölt koju tuleks.
Moonutatud nägemus endast.
Vägivaldset meest võib iseloomustada enesekeskne ja ülespuhutud minapilt. Ta ei taju end vägivaldsena ega pruugi näha oma vägivalla tagajärgi.
Priviligeerituse tunne.
Mees usub, et temale kuuluvad teatud õigused ja privileegid, mis ei laiene teistele pereliikmetele. Pereelu keerleb sellise mehe ümber.
Tugev omanditunne.
Vägivaldne mees tajub lapsi ja naist justkui endale kuuluvana, mistõttu eeldab ka nende allumist enda soovidele ja korraldustele.
Ebarealistlikud ootused ja kõrged nõudmised pereliikmete käitumise suhtes.
Vägivaldne mees ootab (peab iseenesestmõistetavaks), et naine ja teised pereliikmed täidavad tema käske. Nõudmiste mittetäitmisele võib järgneda “karistus”. Teiste soove ja vajadusi ta ei taha/oska märgata ega pea oluliseks nendega tegelemist.
Armastuse ja vägivalla segiajamine.
Mees põhjendab vägivalla kasutamist naise armastamise ja temast hoolimisega.
Manipuleerimine.
Vägivaldne mees võib naisega manipuleerida, selleks et tema käitumist kontrollida või temas segadust tekitada.
Vägivalla kasutamise õigustamine ja vabandamine.
Toime pandud vägivalda kaldub mees eitama või tühisemana näitama, end seal juures õigustades, ohvrit süüdistades ja juhtunule väliseid vabandusi leides (nt alkoholijoove, raske tööpäev, töötus, pealetükkivad sõbrad vms).
Ekstreemne armukadedus.
Vägivaldset meest iseloomustab liialdatud armukadedus, kusjuures ta võib olla armukade isegi partneri sõprade ja sugulaste suhtes.
Naise autoriteedi õõnestamine.
Vägivaldne mees võib kritiseerida naist (laste ema), nimetada teda laste juuresolekul rumalaks, saamatuks ja halvaks lapsevanemaks, kasutada sõimunimesid.
Patriarhaalsed hoiakud ja rõhutatult traditsioonilised soorollid.
Võrreldes mittevägivaldsete meestega usuvad vägivaldsed mehed oluliselt enam, et mees on peres pea, ainuisikuline otsustaja ja suhetes domineeriv. Naine on aga isik, kes peab alluma mehe poolt kehtestatud korrale.
Kahepalgelisus.
Võõrastega, sh ametiisikutega suheldes võib vägivaldne mees jätta väga viisaka, hooliva ja rahumeelse inimese mulje. Ka võõraste juuresolekul võib ta naisega käituda hoopis teisiti kui kodus, kus tunnistajaid ei ole.
7 September 2016 11:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Armastuse ja vägivalla segiajamine:
Mees põhjendab vägivalla kasutamist naise armastamise ja temast hoolimisega."
// nu mida asja.. peab ikka päris haige nägemus maailmast olema inimesel, et vägivalda õigustada armastusega... jeerum. Sellise ütlusega vahelejäävad inimesed tuleks koheselt sügavale ravile saata, sest mured on äärmiselt kriitilised tolle maailma tunnetamisega.
Sellise eest peaks koheselt kaugele, alatiseks jooksma... või et siis armastuse pärast.. wau
http://www.naistekeskus.ee/?p=599
Mees põhjendab vägivalla kasutamist naise armastamise ja temast hoolimisega."
// nu mida asja.. peab ikka päris haige nägemus maailmast olema inimesel, et vägivalda õigustada armastusega... jeerum. Sellise ütlusega vahelejäävad inimesed tuleks koheselt sügavale ravile saata, sest mured on äärmiselt kriitilised tolle maailma tunnetamisega.
Sellise eest peaks koheselt kaugele, alatiseks jooksma... või et siis armastuse pärast.. wau
http://www.naistekeskus.ee/?p=599
http://www.naistekeskus.ee/?p=599
7 September 2016 11:59
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ja juba mainstream teadlaste suust kuulda midagi sellist on ka lohutav, kuigi eks neil veel paar sammu vaja minna...
Ja kui oleme sellest kasust aru saanud, siis hakkame arusaama alles potensiaalsest kahjust, kui seda hooleult kogu ühiskonnas võtta.. kuid praegune palju suurem oht on, kui ei võeta.
See umbes nagu fridiidne inimene kes ei seksi.. kardab seksi oma mehega... kuid lopuks kuisellest yle saab, ja avastab armastuse ja imptiimsuse aia, siis ei tasu tal seda jagama hakata kõikide teistega ja igat pidi igast asju endasse toppima.. samamoodi on ka psühedellikumidega, tuleb teha õigesti pühalikult, jumalikult
"The drug breaks down the parts of the brain that usually separate different functions, like vision and movement, creating a more “integrated or unified brain”,"
""Our results suggest that this effect underlies the profound altered state of consciousness that people often describe during an LSD experience. It is also related to what people sometimes call 'ego-dissolution', which means the normal sense of self is broken down and replaced by a sense of reconnection with themselves, others and the natural world.
“This experience is sometimes framed in a religious or spiritual way - and seems to be associated with improvements in well-being after the drug's effects have subsided.""
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/lsd-makes-the-brain-more-complete-scientists-say-as-they-claim-to-have-unlocked-secrets-of-a6979571.html
Ja kui oleme sellest kasust aru saanud, siis hakkame arusaama alles potensiaalsest kahjust, kui seda hooleult kogu ühiskonnas võtta.. kuid praegune palju suurem oht on, kui ei võeta.
See umbes nagu fridiidne inimene kes ei seksi.. kardab seksi oma mehega... kuid lopuks kuisellest yle saab, ja avastab armastuse ja imptiimsuse aia, siis ei tasu tal seda jagama hakata kõikide teistega ja igat pidi igast asju endasse toppima.. samamoodi on ka psühedellikumidega, tuleb teha õigesti pühalikult, jumalikult
"The drug breaks down the parts of the brain that usually separate different functions, like vision and movement, creating a more “integrated or unified brain”,"
""Our results suggest that this effect underlies the profound altered state of consciousness that people often describe during an LSD experience. It is also related to what people sometimes call 'ego-dissolution', which means the normal sense of self is broken down and replaced by a sense of reconnection with themselves, others and the natural world.
“This experience is sometimes framed in a religious or spiritual way - and seems to be associated with improvements in well-being after the drug's effects have subsided.""
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/lsd-makes-the-brain-more-complete-scientists-say-as-they-claim-to-have-unlocked-secrets-of-a6979571.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/lsd-makes-the-brain-more-complete-scientists-say-as-they-claim-to-have-unlocked-secrets-of-a6979571.html
7 September 2016 09:26
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
See muidugi mingil põhjusel müüdi alla pantud..
"after a few small-scale studies began to indicate that psychedelics can increase creative thinking and treat depression, rumors emerged that acid and other similar drugs cause neurogenesis – or the birth of new brain cells"
"Amazonian brew called ayahuasca can stimulate stem cells to develop into neurons when placed together in a petri dish. “Our research hasn’t shown that LSD causes neuroregenesis, but the beginning of our research with ayahuasca has shown that,” says Feilding. “We’ve only done it in a dish, we haven’t done it in vivo… although I’m very much wanting to do it with LSD as well, because I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we get the same results.”
"Psychotherapists have successfully harnessed these effects, using psychedelics to help patients break down their rigid thought processes and overcome issues like depression and alcoholism. At the same time, the enriched brain activity produced by these substances has been found in numerous studies to increase users’ capacity for creative thinking. Amazingly, biochemist Kary Mullis says taking psychedelic drugs helped him envisage the polymerase chain reaction, for which he won the Nobel Prize. LSD microdosing has also become a phenomenon in Silicon Valley, where it is believed to increase productivity."
http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/lsdbunked-how-research-is-finally-separating-the-facts-from-the-myths-surrounding-acid/all/
"after a few small-scale studies began to indicate that psychedelics can increase creative thinking and treat depression, rumors emerged that acid and other similar drugs cause neurogenesis – or the birth of new brain cells"
"Amazonian brew called ayahuasca can stimulate stem cells to develop into neurons when placed together in a petri dish. “Our research hasn’t shown that LSD causes neuroregenesis, but the beginning of our research with ayahuasca has shown that,” says Feilding. “We’ve only done it in a dish, we haven’t done it in vivo… although I’m very much wanting to do it with LSD as well, because I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we get the same results.”
"Psychotherapists have successfully harnessed these effects, using psychedelics to help patients break down their rigid thought processes and overcome issues like depression and alcoholism. At the same time, the enriched brain activity produced by these substances has been found in numerous studies to increase users’ capacity for creative thinking. Amazingly, biochemist Kary Mullis says taking psychedelic drugs helped him envisage the polymerase chain reaction, for which he won the Nobel Prize. LSD microdosing has also become a phenomenon in Silicon Valley, where it is believed to increase productivity."
http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/lsdbunked-how-research-is-finally-separating-the-facts-from-the-myths-surrounding-acid/all/
http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/lsdbunked-how-research-is-finally-separating-the-facts-from-the-myths-surrounding-acid/all/
7 September 2016 09:21
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Suuri miljardeid muidugi veel investeeritakse LSD jms vastu, sest need ravivad inimeselt elementaarsed sõltuvused nagu liha ülesöömine, teleka mõtetult vaatamine, alkohol ja suits, ning porno.
Mis aga on orjaühiskonna ühed suurimad raha tootjad ja inimeste orjasus mehanismid, seega miljardeid investeerida, ähvardada ametnike valetama, kinni maksta ja manipuleerida, nii suure ohtliku kaotuse põhjal, mis kulutulena leviks, on naljategu... väiksemate valede puhul investeeritakse rohkemgi veel..
Kõigest ÜHE kordse õrna kasutamise puhul, kroonilistel alkohoolikutel oli selline tulemus:
"That's according to Teri Krebs and Pål-Ørjan Johansen at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology in Trondheim. The pair looked at six studies that had investigated the use of LSD for treating alcoholism - all of which were carried out between 1966 and 1970, unsurprisingly.
In total, the trials included 536 alcoholic participants. Some 325 of them were given a single dose of LSD. The success of the therapy was measured by how long the individuals were able to abstain from alcohol, as well as by their social adjustment to a life without booze.
Putting all the results together, the pair found that people who took LSD saw more improvement than those who did not. Almost 60 per cent of LSD-treated people had improved before their first follow-up session, compared with 38 per cent of those who hadn't taken the drug. What's more, people who had taken LSD were still doing better than those that had not six months later:"
Suure koguse puhul õigesti tehes saab aga tulemus olla pea 100%
Kuid point pol eühe korra ainult...vaid point on need asjad ka oma ellu integreerida, et jätkuvalt ärkvel ja teadvusel, selgusel olla.
MUidugi LSD l ja muudel psühedeelikumidel, millest seened veelgi paremad täieliku turvalisuse osas, on see lisa, et kui iga päev võtta siis juba mõne päevaga nad enam ei anna effekti.. peab ootama nädala paar vähemalt, et korraliku tulemust järjepidevalt saada... ja isegi sis, enamus inimesed naturaalselt ainult paari kuu tagant kasutama jäävad heal juhul, sest õige kasutuse mõju on nii kauakestev, ja mingit sõltuvus tunnet edasi kasutada puudub.
Sest need ei ole soltuvust tekitavad, need HOOPIS muud moodi ajus toimivad ja kehas.
Kui kellegi töö on olla shamanist, pühak, psyhonout vms uuria, siis jah, tema muu tarkuse pärast proovib kasutada nii tihti kui võimalik, kuid see hoopis muu katekoorja ja inimsort
https://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2012/03/lsd-as-effective-as-standard-t.html
Mis aga on orjaühiskonna ühed suurimad raha tootjad ja inimeste orjasus mehanismid, seega miljardeid investeerida, ähvardada ametnike valetama, kinni maksta ja manipuleerida, nii suure ohtliku kaotuse põhjal, mis kulutulena leviks, on naljategu... väiksemate valede puhul investeeritakse rohkemgi veel..
Kõigest ÜHE kordse õrna kasutamise puhul, kroonilistel alkohoolikutel oli selline tulemus:
"That's according to Teri Krebs and Pål-Ørjan Johansen at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology in Trondheim. The pair looked at six studies that had investigated the use of LSD for treating alcoholism - all of which were carried out between 1966 and 1970, unsurprisingly.
In total, the trials included 536 alcoholic participants. Some 325 of them were given a single dose of LSD. The success of the therapy was measured by how long the individuals were able to abstain from alcohol, as well as by their social adjustment to a life without booze.
Putting all the results together, the pair found that people who took LSD saw more improvement than those who did not. Almost 60 per cent of LSD-treated people had improved before their first follow-up session, compared with 38 per cent of those who hadn't taken the drug. What's more, people who had taken LSD were still doing better than those that had not six months later:"
Suure koguse puhul õigesti tehes saab aga tulemus olla pea 100%
Kuid point pol eühe korra ainult...vaid point on need asjad ka oma ellu integreerida, et jätkuvalt ärkvel ja teadvusel, selgusel olla.
MUidugi LSD l ja muudel psühedeelikumidel, millest seened veelgi paremad täieliku turvalisuse osas, on see lisa, et kui iga päev võtta siis juba mõne päevaga nad enam ei anna effekti.. peab ootama nädala paar vähemalt, et korraliku tulemust järjepidevalt saada... ja isegi sis, enamus inimesed naturaalselt ainult paari kuu tagant kasutama jäävad heal juhul, sest õige kasutuse mõju on nii kauakestev, ja mingit sõltuvus tunnet edasi kasutada puudub.
Sest need ei ole soltuvust tekitavad, need HOOPIS muud moodi ajus toimivad ja kehas.
Kui kellegi töö on olla shamanist, pühak, psyhonout vms uuria, siis jah, tema muu tarkuse pärast proovib kasutada nii tihti kui võimalik, kuid see hoopis muu katekoorja ja inimsort
https://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2012/03/lsd-as-effective-as-standard-t.html
https://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2012/03/lsd-as-effective-as-standard-t.html
7 September 2016 09:17
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Enamus inimesi, kes igast arulagedustega psühedeelikumide vastu jahuvad, nad pole suvatsenud mottega isegi lugeda elementaarset https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheogen
ja kuna usk on puudulik, jumalasse ja hingedesse ja vaimudese, tulnukatesse ja muudesse energiatesse teadmised praktiliselt täielikult puuduvad, mis teeb inimese sarnaseks koopainimesega kui tarkusi võrdlema hakata, mis tasemel tarkustes üks ja teine asju võrdleb, siis väga raske tänapäeval saada nõusolekut inimestega kes hoopis muus ajas ja dimesioonis veel kinni on oma arusaamadega, kuid küll me teid välja päästame
ja kuna usk on puudulik, jumalasse ja hingedesse ja vaimudese, tulnukatesse ja muudesse energiatesse teadmised praktiliselt täielikult puuduvad, mis teeb inimese sarnaseks koopainimesega kui tarkusi võrdlema hakata, mis tasemel tarkustes üks ja teine asju võrdleb, siis väga raske tänapäeval saada nõusolekut inimestega kes hoopis muus ajas ja dimesioonis veel kinni on oma arusaamadega, kuid küll me teid välja päästame
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheogen
7 September 2016 09:10
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ainukesed LSD ja seente vastased lood, mis kahjuks on osad meelega tehtud, tuleb arvestada, et makstakse lausa lastele raha vahest narkovastastel projektidel, et neid lugusi saaks teha (piisab ainult paarist loost aasta jooksul mis sarnaselt kolavad, et see inimajudesse jääks).
Nagu see lugu siin: kus ilmselgelt inimene valetas mida ta võttis, esimesel juhul saab andeks anda, et ajas LSD sassi, kuid seeni ja seda kemikali mida ta tegelikult võttis ei saa sassi ajada, kui just keegi võlts suva seeni sulle ei muu mille peale seda kemikali pritsida (mis väga lihtne teha).
Ja loomulikult ei hakka enamus ka selle kemikali all üksteist tagaajama vägivaldselt kuid potensiaalselt võimalik, kuna seda ainet mis selles loos mainitud, on üli palju lihtsam teha ja odavam kätte saada, kuid loe siis ise lähemalt,
" Violence and delirium are not usual effects of LSD. “Even in an overdose, LSD won’t lead to a five-day agitated delirium in the ICU,” Suzuki says. “I knew then that this had to be something else.”
By the time the scissors-wielding student arrived, Suzuki was better prepared. He had found a lab that could test for a little-known hallucinogen called 25I-NBOMe. Sure enough, the student’s blood tested positive. Maybe he thought he was taking LSD, but he had actually ingested a new, more dangerous hallucinogen from a family of drugs called smiles or NBOMes (pronounced en-bombs) "
kuid enamus laboratooriumid ei hakka seda mitte kunagi testima, kas on LSD, sest see kallis ja 24 tunni pärast polegi midagi järgi mida testida, ammu enne seda juba.
enamus sellised ohtlikumad asjad on legaalsed alguses alati olnud, poes müüdavad:
"When a designer drug first appears for sale — often in gas stations, convenience stores or online — it is technically legal"
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/designer-drugs-hit-dangerous-lows-bring-new-highs
Nagu see lugu siin: kus ilmselgelt inimene valetas mida ta võttis, esimesel juhul saab andeks anda, et ajas LSD sassi, kuid seeni ja seda kemikali mida ta tegelikult võttis ei saa sassi ajada, kui just keegi võlts suva seeni sulle ei muu mille peale seda kemikali pritsida (mis väga lihtne teha).
Ja loomulikult ei hakka enamus ka selle kemikali all üksteist tagaajama vägivaldselt kuid potensiaalselt võimalik, kuna seda ainet mis selles loos mainitud, on üli palju lihtsam teha ja odavam kätte saada, kuid loe siis ise lähemalt,
" Violence and delirium are not usual effects of LSD. “Even in an overdose, LSD won’t lead to a five-day agitated delirium in the ICU,” Suzuki says. “I knew then that this had to be something else.”
By the time the scissors-wielding student arrived, Suzuki was better prepared. He had found a lab that could test for a little-known hallucinogen called 25I-NBOMe. Sure enough, the student’s blood tested positive. Maybe he thought he was taking LSD, but he had actually ingested a new, more dangerous hallucinogen from a family of drugs called smiles or NBOMes (pronounced en-bombs) "
kuid enamus laboratooriumid ei hakka seda mitte kunagi testima, kas on LSD, sest see kallis ja 24 tunni pärast polegi midagi järgi mida testida, ammu enne seda juba.
enamus sellised ohtlikumad asjad on legaalsed alguses alati olnud, poes müüdavad:
"When a designer drug first appears for sale — often in gas stations, convenience stores or online — it is technically legal"
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/designer-drugs-hit-dangerous-lows-bring-new-highs
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/designer-drugs-hit-dangerous-lows-bring-new-highs
7 September 2016 09:07
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
mure on selles, et sul meeldib oma peas fanatseerida, oigustada oma ettekujutusi mis propakanda põhjal saanud oled ja millest oma egoga kinni hoiad, kartes oma eksimust tunnistada, sellepärast sa kardad lugeda seda , mis ilmselge ja lihtne arusaada
http://boingboing.net/2012/08/03/in-mid-60s-lsd-research-stud.html
http://boingboing.net/2012/08/03/in-mid-60s-lsd-research-stud.html
http://boingboing.net/2012/08/03/in-mid-60s-lsd-research-stud.html
7 September 2016 08:58
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
(proovi nüüd leida samavõrdväärseid artikleid mida jagasin muude ühiskonna mürkide osas millest sõltuvuses ollakse ja mis pole psühedeelsed, kui ütled, et sama, siis peaks ju olema?)
Raimond Hull Bibikov Teoorias hea küll jah. Kuid see on täiesti arulage ettekujutus asjadest, mis ainult Väga kaudselt paika peavad pealispinnalise esialgse vaatluse puhul.
LSD d võttes, kui vaatad õudukaid, saad EELKÕIGE aru, et inimesed EI peaks õudukaid vaatama, sest sellega avad ukse oma teadvustes, neile maagiatele mida filmis kasutatakse, ..ega õudukate eesmärk on SINU meeltele ligi pääseda, mitte aint raha teenida..
Enamusi komöödiaid vaadates, saad aru, et see huumor on väga madal ja pealiskaudne, aju manipuleeriv ja standardeid alla viiv ja sa lihtsalt ei vaata seda rämpsu.
Üldiselt telekat ei raisata ja elektroonikat LSD ga ei vahita, kui siis ainult eri projektide jaoks, kus olemasolevat muuta soovid ja siis süvaanalüüse selles osas teha.
Muidugi selleks peaks inimese aju juba elementaarsel USU tasandil olema, kus NIISAMA kunagi ei vaadata igavusest telekat ega meediat, vaid AINULT asja pärast. Põhjusega, mitte nagu zombi "meelelahutuseks" regulaarselt, nagu heroiini või valuvaigistite sõltuvuses olija, kelle oma aju suudab kehas keemilist valu tekitada, et uut laksu saada.
Kui teada soovid mis on LSD põhi funktsioon, siis ära fantaseeri oma peas igast luulusi rämpsust ja pahnast mis Sulle pähe topitud, vaid loe ja uuri REAALSEID rugusi, suurimaid uuringuid, kasvõi valitsuse enda omasi, mis ausad, ja siis saad ise ka aru mis moodi sa järjekordses liberaalide, kommunistide loksus olid ja kaitsesid inimeste alaarenemise poolt tahtmatult kuid innukalt,
kasvõi see lugu, kõigile kes vähegi viitsinud teemaga tegeleda, see teada tundud, 100% faktiline
http://humansarefree.com/2014/04/scientists-and-engineers-took-lsd-as.html
Raimond Hull Bibikov Teoorias hea küll jah. Kuid see on täiesti arulage ettekujutus asjadest, mis ainult Väga kaudselt paika peavad pealispinnalise esialgse vaatluse puhul.
LSD d võttes, kui vaatad õudukaid, saad EELKÕIGE aru, et inimesed EI peaks õudukaid vaatama, sest sellega avad ukse oma teadvustes, neile maagiatele mida filmis kasutatakse, ..ega õudukate eesmärk on SINU meeltele ligi pääseda, mitte aint raha teenida..
Enamusi komöödiaid vaadates, saad aru, et see huumor on väga madal ja pealiskaudne, aju manipuleeriv ja standardeid alla viiv ja sa lihtsalt ei vaata seda rämpsu.
Üldiselt telekat ei raisata ja elektroonikat LSD ga ei vahita, kui siis ainult eri projektide jaoks, kus olemasolevat muuta soovid ja siis süvaanalüüse selles osas teha.
Muidugi selleks peaks inimese aju juba elementaarsel USU tasandil olema, kus NIISAMA kunagi ei vaadata igavusest telekat ega meediat, vaid AINULT asja pärast. Põhjusega, mitte nagu zombi "meelelahutuseks" regulaarselt, nagu heroiini või valuvaigistite sõltuvuses olija, kelle oma aju suudab kehas keemilist valu tekitada, et uut laksu saada.
Kui teada soovid mis on LSD põhi funktsioon, siis ära fantaseeri oma peas igast luulusi rämpsust ja pahnast mis Sulle pähe topitud, vaid loe ja uuri REAALSEID rugusi, suurimaid uuringuid, kasvõi valitsuse enda omasi, mis ausad, ja siis saad ise ka aru mis moodi sa järjekordses liberaalide, kommunistide loksus olid ja kaitsesid inimeste alaarenemise poolt tahtmatult kuid innukalt,
kasvõi see lugu, kõigile kes vähegi viitsinud teemaga tegeleda, see teada tundud, 100% faktiline
http://humansarefree.com/2014/04/scientists-and-engineers-took-lsd-as.html
7 September 2016 08:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
comments on YT:
"The war on drugs is fundamentally flawed and should never have been started. If the goal of the government's drugs policy is to reduce harm to society then ban alcohol.
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DFNEO1118 months ago
Agreed, Also I believe that the Law is to protect people from other people and not protect people from making thier own choices in life. as that is removing part of thier freedom.
Drugs shoudl be made availabe via Chemists ( drug stores) and of a consistent quality, and the Taxation should be used on the education of drug use, so people know how to take drugs, rather than use them as an esacpe or altaernative to alcohol.
War on drugs ? its laughable especially when they say the drugs are winning. So, the plants can beat a government. unbelieveable.. 8-)
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Straylight1007 months ago
Only if you think the object of the war on drugs is to stop people using drugs is it a failure. If the object of drug prohibition is to create a black market for organised criminals to be able to raise eneormous sums of money, and to use the enforcement of the drug prohibition law as justification for ever increasing repression & removal of civil liberties, with all that entails: arms sales, prison contracts, increased surveillance, greater police powers. No, if you think of the war on drugs as a means to an end for authoritarian governments, then the war on drugs has been a spectacular success."
"The war on drugs is fundamentally flawed and should never have been started. If the goal of the government's drugs policy is to reduce harm to society then ban alcohol.
Reply:
DFNEO1118 months ago
Agreed, Also I believe that the Law is to protect people from other people and not protect people from making thier own choices in life. as that is removing part of thier freedom.
Drugs shoudl be made availabe via Chemists ( drug stores) and of a consistent quality, and the Taxation should be used on the education of drug use, so people know how to take drugs, rather than use them as an esacpe or altaernative to alcohol.
War on drugs ? its laughable especially when they say the drugs are winning. So, the plants can beat a government. unbelieveable.. 8-)
Reply:
Straylight1007 months ago
Only if you think the object of the war on drugs is to stop people using drugs is it a failure. If the object of drug prohibition is to create a black market for organised criminals to be able to raise eneormous sums of money, and to use the enforcement of the drug prohibition law as justification for ever increasing repression & removal of civil liberties, with all that entails: arms sales, prison contracts, increased surveillance, greater police powers. No, if you think of the war on drugs as a means to an end for authoritarian governments, then the war on drugs has been a spectacular success."
7 September 2016 08:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
For sure all that can be told much easier..
Kindlasti koike seda saab selgemalt selgitada..
Kindlasti koike seda saab selgemalt selgitada..
7 September 2016 08:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yeah, got me confused.. to take one.. or another.. ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paradox_of_Choice
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paradox_of_Choice
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paradox_of_Choice
6 September 2016 20:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja mul ka instruktsioonid, lahendused, kuidas seda kõikerakendada, kuid kuna suur osa vajalike polte on liberaalsed ja need kes pole on jälle mõne teise eelnimetatud puudusega, siis ei saa nii lihtsalt asja aetud... nuputan veel siiani, kuidas seda aktiviseerida
Võõramaa võimu ja rahadega näib olema ainus võimalus praegu Seda maad päästa, kui õigeid võõramaalasi õigesti kasutada, ilma, et nad sama orgi otsa ei astuks, kui muud kes mingi ilusa asja asjaosaliseks saanud
Ühesõnaga on reaalselt vaja "müüa" see maa uutele omanikele, kes suurtemate ja õigemate ideaalidega, kes suudaks korraga osta ära, tagasi meie telekommuniaktsioonid, side ja kaubandusvahendid ja aitaks rakendada ühtsema vaimse platformi ning aasta kümneid peale maksta, kuni vastaste jaks saab otsaja inimeste meel selgeks, kui nende lettidelt eemaldada ebavajalik ja pealemakstes neile kasulikku sisse sööta ja joota, likvideerides kõikidest meediakanalitest sopp (ostes nad kõik ära korraga) ja kehtestada normaalne kuningriiklik olukord
Mille läbi, kellesuunaks, oleks seda sama teha kogu muu ilma jaoks,
.. kuid siis oleks kindlustatud grupp inimesi, million, kes seda misiooni usuks ja ette võtaks, et ülejäänud ilma parandada,
viiendatele kolonnidele ja muudele liberaalsetele virisejatele, tuleb aga silt ja märgistus külge panna, ja eelkõige nad varakult koos soovitava perega, pealemakstes misiganes mujale maale meie geene edasi asustama saata.
Kõike seda viimast juba muidugi raskem teha, aga üldse mitte võimatu, nii väikse maa puhul, ku ireaalselt mõelda, millist suurt kasu sellest saaksid viimased kuninglikud ja väärtustele lojalsed jõud, kes meie nimel oma võrgud ühendaksid ja maakerale tõestaksid, et normaalset riiki on võimalik luua...
Kogu suund oleks siis meid suunata kasvatama selliseid terviljasi ja taimi, koos maakera kliendibaasi kindlustmaisega (mis ülilihtne nii väikese maa puhul), lisaks veel puutöö kunst ja sepakunst, mis meie rahval kõik on veres.
Kuid peamiseks jääb meie intellektuaalne armastuse kunst, jaanalüüsi võime mis on õige kuidas ja miks, see on meie rahva tegelik eripära, kui mürgi oma meeltest eemaldame ja hakkame seadusepäraselt sellisteks uuesti, nagu oleme laulnud.
Võõramaa võimu ja rahadega näib olema ainus võimalus praegu Seda maad päästa, kui õigeid võõramaalasi õigesti kasutada, ilma, et nad sama orgi otsa ei astuks, kui muud kes mingi ilusa asja asjaosaliseks saanud
Ühesõnaga on reaalselt vaja "müüa" see maa uutele omanikele, kes suurtemate ja õigemate ideaalidega, kes suudaks korraga osta ära, tagasi meie telekommuniaktsioonid, side ja kaubandusvahendid ja aitaks rakendada ühtsema vaimse platformi ning aasta kümneid peale maksta, kuni vastaste jaks saab otsaja inimeste meel selgeks, kui nende lettidelt eemaldada ebavajalik ja pealemakstes neile kasulikku sisse sööta ja joota, likvideerides kõikidest meediakanalitest sopp (ostes nad kõik ära korraga) ja kehtestada normaalne kuningriiklik olukord
Mille läbi, kellesuunaks, oleks seda sama teha kogu muu ilma jaoks,
.. kuid siis oleks kindlustatud grupp inimesi, million, kes seda misiooni usuks ja ette võtaks, et ülejäänud ilma parandada,
viiendatele kolonnidele ja muudele liberaalsetele virisejatele, tuleb aga silt ja märgistus külge panna, ja eelkõige nad varakult koos soovitava perega, pealemakstes misiganes mujale maale meie geene edasi asustama saata.
Kõike seda viimast juba muidugi raskem teha, aga üldse mitte võimatu, nii väikse maa puhul, ku ireaalselt mõelda, millist suurt kasu sellest saaksid viimased kuninglikud ja väärtustele lojalsed jõud, kes meie nimel oma võrgud ühendaksid ja maakerale tõestaksid, et normaalset riiki on võimalik luua...
Kogu suund oleks siis meid suunata kasvatama selliseid terviljasi ja taimi, koos maakera kliendibaasi kindlustmaisega (mis ülilihtne nii väikese maa puhul), lisaks veel puutöö kunst ja sepakunst, mis meie rahval kõik on veres.
Kuid peamiseks jääb meie intellektuaalne armastuse kunst, jaanalüüsi võime mis on õige kuidas ja miks, see on meie rahva tegelik eripära, kui mürgi oma meeltest eemaldame ja hakkame seadusepäraselt sellisteks uuesti, nagu oleme laulnud.
6 September 2016 20:35
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Osbek's post.
Nu see kolonn jah, ilmtingimata, see see material, riistvara,
Kuid tarkvara mis neid juhib on "liberaalsus" ehk maaga mitte ühenduses olev kerglane ükskõiksus ja ülbus,
lipsu kummardamine ja looduspärandi unustamine kauge kosmose nimel,
oma tervise ja suhtenormide vabatahlik likvideerimine ja mehaaniliste rohtudega plaasterdamine,
see väga peenelt viisnurga tulnarite poolt kootud lõkks, milles Jõks ja mitmed muud kesennast parempoolsekski peavad
Eesti asja ei saa loplikult siiralt lopuni ajada inimene kes lipsu kannab, või kellel muud projektid esikohal kui looduse ja naturaalsema elusuuna taastamine ajudes.
Kuid jah, mida vaimsemalt vaadata seda tõsisemsee Rooma impeeriumi probleem mis meil kõigil seljas, ja millest lahti saada raske, kui inimesed ühtsetes õigetes uskudes ja arusaamades ei nõustu olema, milles Eestis peaks olema jumalakrtlikus, puhtus, karsklus, väärtuste põhine patriotism, looduslähedus koos kerge taimse shamanismi ja loomulikult Matriarhaatlikusega
- selle lihtsa valemi sees, ja sutsu altuRistlikust, füüsilist ja vaimset virkust, (mis usuga elementaarselt koos käib) on kõik vastused ja radikaalsed piirid, millega saab iga maa loplikult korda, igaveseks, väga kiiresti, kui neid ainult koos järgida
nende sees on kõik lahendused kõikide probleemide õigeks lahendamiseks,
(mida pole suutnud ükski maakeramaa veel siiani teha, ja sellepärast ka Rooma impeeriumil siiani võin node sees küüsi hoida, ikka kas tehakse ühte ja teist mitte... kuid kui mingid maad sellega hakkama saavad, siis Eesti on kindlasti üks neist, Eesrinnas kellel see võimalik)
Kuid tarkvara mis neid juhib on "liberaalsus" ehk maaga mitte ühenduses olev kerglane ükskõiksus ja ülbus,
lipsu kummardamine ja looduspärandi unustamine kauge kosmose nimel,
oma tervise ja suhtenormide vabatahlik likvideerimine ja mehaaniliste rohtudega plaasterdamine,
see väga peenelt viisnurga tulnarite poolt kootud lõkks, milles Jõks ja mitmed muud kesennast parempoolsekski peavad
Eesti asja ei saa loplikult siiralt lopuni ajada inimene kes lipsu kannab, või kellel muud projektid esikohal kui looduse ja naturaalsema elusuuna taastamine ajudes.
Kuid jah, mida vaimsemalt vaadata seda tõsisemsee Rooma impeeriumi probleem mis meil kõigil seljas, ja millest lahti saada raske, kui inimesed ühtsetes õigetes uskudes ja arusaamades ei nõustu olema, milles Eestis peaks olema jumalakrtlikus, puhtus, karsklus, väärtuste põhine patriotism, looduslähedus koos kerge taimse shamanismi ja loomulikult Matriarhaatlikusega
- selle lihtsa valemi sees, ja sutsu altuRistlikust, füüsilist ja vaimset virkust, (mis usuga elementaarselt koos käib) on kõik vastused ja radikaalsed piirid, millega saab iga maa loplikult korda, igaveseks, väga kiiresti, kui neid ainult koos järgida
nende sees on kõik lahendused kõikide probleemide õigeks lahendamiseks,
(mida pole suutnud ükski maakeramaa veel siiani teha, ja sellepärast ka Rooma impeeriumil siiani võin node sees küüsi hoida, ikka kas tehakse ühte ja teist mitte... kuid kui mingid maad sellega hakkama saavad, siis Eesti on kindlasti üks neist, Eesrinnas kellel see võimalik)
6 September 2016 20:24
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
to many options
6 September 2016 20:04
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
mis see särgipeal peaks tähendama, viimane sona on beef v?
6 September 2016 19:59
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
got me, . aa see.. OOTA mida? :D aa..
6 September 2016 19:58
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
kas siin peaks naerma või nutma või kukalt kraatsima,
6 September 2016 19:56
Margus Meigo replied to Kevin Furr's comment.
and there is 6 billion people, some eatin each other, starving, die in millions every year for ilnesses and wars.. and:
While the brown bear's range has shrunk and it has faced local extinctions, it remains listed as a least concern species by the IUCN with a total population of approximately 200,000. As of 2012, this and the American black bear are the only bear species not classified as threatened by the IUCN
whata planet.. how did we end up so..
While the brown bear's range has shrunk and it has faced local extinctions, it remains listed as a least concern species by the IUCN with a total population of approximately 200,000. As of 2012, this and the American black bear are the only bear species not classified as threatened by the IUCN
whata planet.. how did we end up so..
6 September 2016 19:54
Margus Meigo replied to Kevin Furr's comment.
what is kind of strange, as we only have about 700 bears, but they told it is from local bears,
and then i noticed sad news.. that this one is extinc in most parts of world long time ago, 10 century they killed last one in England,
also 0 in Algeria, Belgium, Denmark, Egypt; Germany; Hungary; Ireland, Israel; Jordan, Lebanon; Liechtenstein; Lithuania, Luxembourg, Mexico; Moldova; Monaco, Morocco; Netherlands; Portugal; San Marino; Switzerland; Syria, Tunisia, Africa...
In world there is about 180 000 and from what 120 000 is in Russia and 32 000 in alaska and 25 000 in Canada, most of USA is Extinct also..
Similar with worlfs, who we only have about 240 left in here.. and who has been near eliminated in many places up in scandinavia and ofcourse again in UK... is like they not know, that these animals psyche is holding energy fields, that hold up human strenght..and various kinds of thinkings.
In 2006 germany after long history, they noticed one bear (JJ1) in border of Germany, so they made bi debate it in news, and they try to catch it.. after failing three weeks, people (in cutrrent tome) demaned it to be shoot.. as if we can not get it alive, then better to kill it people was thinking, and this was one last bear that wisiter Germany after long history...
How these people get birth right..i mean there is 70 million Germans and You can not have ONE bear even stay alive?
and then i noticed sad news.. that this one is extinc in most parts of world long time ago, 10 century they killed last one in England,
also 0 in Algeria, Belgium, Denmark, Egypt; Germany; Hungary; Ireland, Israel; Jordan, Lebanon; Liechtenstein; Lithuania, Luxembourg, Mexico; Moldova; Monaco, Morocco; Netherlands; Portugal; San Marino; Switzerland; Syria, Tunisia, Africa...
In world there is about 180 000 and from what 120 000 is in Russia and 32 000 in alaska and 25 000 in Canada, most of USA is Extinct also..
Similar with worlfs, who we only have about 240 left in here.. and who has been near eliminated in many places up in scandinavia and ofcourse again in UK... is like they not know, that these animals psyche is holding energy fields, that hold up human strenght..and various kinds of thinkings.
In 2006 germany after long history, they noticed one bear (JJ1) in border of Germany, so they made bi debate it in news, and they try to catch it.. after failing three weeks, people (in cutrrent tome) demaned it to be shoot.. as if we can not get it alive, then better to kill it people was thinking, and this was one last bear that wisiter Germany after long history...
How these people get birth right..i mean there is 70 million Germans and You can not have ONE bear even stay alive?
6 September 2016 19:53
Margus Meigo replied to Brion A Wohosky's comment.
marketing people are no slow ones
6 September 2016 18:28
Margus Meigo replied to Brion A Wohosky's comment.
omg
6 September 2016 18:26
Margus Meigo replied to Kevin Furr's comment.
we sale bear cakes on my last home street corner in respected part of down, no really, real 100% bear, in a cake, cost 1.50 i think.
it was so strange, i had to get some, back when i still eated meat. tasted strong
it was so strange, i had to get some, back when i still eated meat. tasted strong
6 September 2016 18:25
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's photo.
Looks extreme healthy
6 September 2016 18:18
Margus Meigo replied to Riin Jürgenson's comment.
asoo, oot seleta lähemalt?
et kas samamoodi mõistame... et jah.. imtiimsuses enamasty muud kui loodushõngu vaja pole..
et kas samamoodi mõistame... et jah.. imtiimsuses enamasty muud kui loodushõngu vaja pole..
6 September 2016 18:16
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja ku isa TEISTE eest vastutust ei võta, siis ei saa nemad ka Sinu eest võtta.. ja siis areng väga vaevaline.. ja teiste otsustada, kes neid haldavad, kes otsustamatud ja isekad
6 September 2016 14:34
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja kuna inimesena, oled osa jumalast, siis ongi vastutus ja viga suur, ku iseda eitad ja jumalat rüvetada lased,
ise veel teades, et sa tema üks kombitsatest... keda vaja hoida puhtana.. ja ja need tehnoloogiad nagu "põrgu " jms, jah. .saab öelda, et on ka meiesse ehitatud,
kuid reaalne on see, et kas sa kogu oma OP systeemiga , soovid jääda maailma mis on karm ja raske või mis toimib ja on puhas alaarengust
ise veel teades, et sa tema üks kombitsatest... keda vaja hoida puhtana.. ja ja need tehnoloogiad nagu "põrgu " jms, jah. .saab öelda, et on ka meiesse ehitatud,
kuid reaalne on see, et kas sa kogu oma OP systeemiga , soovid jääda maailma mis on karm ja raske või mis toimib ja on puhas alaarengust
6 September 2016 14:33
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
jah, päkapikud ja haldjad ka,
ja oled osaliselt jumal ka ja põrgu tööline ka, ega Sa ei eksi, lihtsalt ku iselle reaalsusest ja vastutusest aru saama hakkad, siis tuleb hoopis muu austuse tase ja arusaam, et millises lapse maailmas enne elati.. ja ku ireaalne see on mida need ajukääbikud siin systemaatiliselt kurgust alla toppinud, et siis vaimuvaeste inimeste kallal oma strateegiaid nad kasutada paremini saaksid
ja oled osaliselt jumal ka ja põrgu tööline ka, ega Sa ei eksi, lihtsalt ku iselle reaalsusest ja vastutusest aru saama hakkad, siis tuleb hoopis muu austuse tase ja arusaam, et millises lapse maailmas enne elati.. ja ku ireaalne see on mida need ajukääbikud siin systemaatiliselt kurgust alla toppinud, et siis vaimuvaeste inimeste kallal oma strateegiaid nad kasutada paremini saaksid
6 September 2016 14:30
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ja sina ei kasuta ennast ise..
kuid see juba kõrgem teadus, ja ku iteada saad miks ja kuidas, isis oled ikka "Kuradima tige" et sedasi lasid ennast massmeedial, mass energiatel ja viamudel mida sa ei usu, ära kasutada... esimene samm, kontrolli vähendmaiseks on vaja aru saada oma kontrollidest mis meid kontrolivad eri ajal eri moodi
lihtsalt arvata, et ise oma asju teeme ise endale ainult. .see juba suur märk kontrolli all olemisest
ja siis peab elu andma sulle palju õppetunde ja raskusi, ja tuld mille peal kõndida, et seda aru saada, kuidas on.. ja mõni ei saagi kunagi.. vaid sureb kibeda ja vanana, pudelist kinni hoides
kuid see juba kõrgem teadus, ja ku iteada saad miks ja kuidas, isis oled ikka "Kuradima tige" et sedasi lasid ennast massmeedial, mass energiatel ja viamudel mida sa ei usu, ära kasutada... esimene samm, kontrolli vähendmaiseks on vaja aru saada oma kontrollidest mis meid kontrolivad eri ajal eri moodi
lihtsalt arvata, et ise oma asju teeme ise endale ainult. .see juba suur märk kontrolli all olemisest
ja siis peab elu andma sulle palju õppetunde ja raskusi, ja tuld mille peal kõndida, et seda aru saada, kuidas on.. ja mõni ei saagi kunagi.. vaid sureb kibeda ja vanana, pudelist kinni hoides
6 September 2016 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
Nii et miks jagasid, hea meel või kurb et suri ?
Mis temast arvad, millega nõustud ja millega mitte ja miks ?
Kuidas mida oleks saanud tema paremini teha?
Kui seda ei oska öelda, siis pole ju millegi üle diskuteerida ega edasi arendada inimeste mõtteid selle sama uudise osas. Tuleb ikka julgeda, ennast väljendada, oma mõtete ja oma sõnadega
Mis temast arvad, millega nõustud ja millega mitte ja miks ?
Kuidas mida oleks saanud tema paremini teha?
Kui seda ei oska öelda, siis pole ju millegi üle diskuteerida ega edasi arendada inimeste mõtteid selle sama uudise osas. Tuleb ikka julgeda, ennast väljendada, oma mõtete ja oma sõnadega
6 September 2016 14:26
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja alati on meies suur osa, mida AINULT teised saavad näha ja mida me ise ei näe, see lementaarne psüholoogia 123
6 September 2016 14:25
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
nu sinu enda ettekujutuses jha,
kuid reaalsuses sa seda ju käiku panna pole julgenud, et pole piisavalt kindel selles mida usud ja miks.
ei kasuta oma jumala poolt antud potensiaali, suunata ilma sinna suunas kuhu vaja.. vaid ikka mugavalt turvaliselt märkamatult jagades . ja lastel igalyhel oma arengus allavoolu või kuhu iganes voolata.
Sügavatel usuasjadel, pole eriti midagi juurde mõelda, või väga heal laulul, kuid need jutud.. tava uudised, siin väga palju pooli ja asju saab valida
kuid reaalsuses sa seda ju käiku panna pole julgenud, et pole piisavalt kindel selles mida usud ja miks.
ei kasuta oma jumala poolt antud potensiaali, suunata ilma sinna suunas kuhu vaja.. vaid ikka mugavalt turvaliselt märkamatult jagades . ja lastel igalyhel oma arengus allavoolu või kuhu iganes voolata.
Sügavatel usuasjadel, pole eriti midagi juurde mõelda, või väga heal laulul, kuid need jutud.. tava uudised, siin väga palju pooli ja asju saab valida
6 September 2016 14:25
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
pole suurt kasu enda peas etttekujutada asju ainult ,vaid tuleb järgi ka testida, miks ja kuidas, ja siin see platform on selleks loodud, tasuta... pole motet elektrit ja inimeste aega ju kulutada niisama, kui sul on võimali kennast ja oma unikaalsust väljendada, kui vähegi oma mõtteid ja ideid on, siis lisada neid.. saan aru nendst, kellel ÜLDSE oma mõteid ja julgust pole,
aga sinul peaks ju olema, kindlat on individuaalsus
aga sinul peaks ju olema, kindlat on individuaalsus
6 September 2016 14:22
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ei sa hakkad seda ütlema alati ja igal pool, kui tahad selgemaks saada kes su ümber on ja miks ja kes sa ise oled ja kus sa eksid ja kus ja kes Su poolt on ja miks
6 September 2016 14:21
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Tuleb julgeda inimesi ja arvamusi endast eraldada, muidu ei teki edasiarngut kui libeaalselt turvalisuse mullis lihtsalt jagada asju ja ideid kuid ei võta selget poolt kõigis asjades milles vähegi võimalik
Nüüd kui Sa ütled,et "osades asjades oled poolt ja osades mitte" Siis on vajalik öelda, MIS asjades oled ja mis asjades ei ole, ja soovitavalt MIKS
Muidu ei ole sellest mingit kasu ja on nagu ikka, korratud, liberaalide taktika mida juba suurem osa "parempoolsed" ka homolikult kasutama hakanud, sest see pole mehelik.. niisama näidates midagi ja mitte väljendades miks , mille eest seisad ja kuidas
Nüüd kui Sa ütled,et "osades asjades oled poolt ja osades mitte" Siis on vajalik öelda, MIS asjades oled ja mis asjades ei ole, ja soovitavalt MIKS
Muidu ei ole sellest mingit kasu ja on nagu ikka, korratud, liberaalide taktika mida juba suurem osa "parempoolsed" ka homolikult kasutama hakanud, sest see pole mehelik.. niisama näidates midagi ja mitte väljendades miks , mille eest seisad ja kuidas
6 September 2016 14:21
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ON vaja öelda MIDA SINA sellest arvad, mida head, mida valet jne, et tekiks ARENG; edasiareng, pole mingit kasu asjade edasijagamisest kui kõik samamoodi ,samapidi edais mõtlevad kui nad motlead.. ja arvavad samapidi, et sa jagasid ju selle ja teise asja pärast..
6 September 2016 14:19
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
oli küll jah, õnneks.
Õiglane ka
KUid see mis sa teed, sulle teamiseks, juurde MITTE lisades miks sa seda teed ja oma arvamust ei avalda,.. see ongi see liberaalide ideaalne sombi keskond.. kus inimesed jagavad mõtetult asju aga ei julge suunda näidata, sest kardavad eksida
Õiglane ka
KUid see mis sa teed, sulle teamiseks, juurde MITTE lisades miks sa seda teed ja oma arvamust ei avalda,.. see ongi see liberaalide ideaalne sombi keskond.. kus inimesed jagavad mõtetult asju aga ei julge suunda näidata, sest kardavad eksida
6 September 2016 14:18
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Rammi puhastuseks need asjad ongi, et RAM umbe EI läheks, ... oeh.. mida ma seletan kui Sa ju ei tea kogemust ja pole suvatsenud uurida ega lugeda muud kui kommunistide ja tulnarite propakandat selles osas.
Enamus kellel umbe läheb hakkavad jooma, on depresioonis, vihased, või stimuleerivad oma ajukest jalgpalli ja teleka, baaris jõlkumise ja muu elu vähe arendavaga... kui aga oma aju stimuleerid koos oma viamu ja arusaamistega, õigel eesmärgil, siis järgmine päev oled juba edasi arenenud, puhanud, värske,
mitte heal juhul samal tasemel mida peale ajule kurnavaid ja lausa kahjulike tegevusi,
nagu need ajusurmad on, spordi vahtimised ja igast sõltuvusainete imemised nikotiinist alkoholini
Enamus kellel umbe läheb hakkavad jooma, on depresioonis, vihased, või stimuleerivad oma ajukest jalgpalli ja teleka, baaris jõlkumise ja muu elu vähe arendavaga... kui aga oma aju stimuleerid koos oma viamu ja arusaamistega, õigel eesmärgil, siis järgmine päev oled juba edasi arenenud, puhanud, värske,
mitte heal juhul samal tasemel mida peale ajule kurnavaid ja lausa kahjulike tegevusi,
nagu need ajusurmad on, spordi vahtimised ja igast sõltuvusainete imemised nikotiinist alkoholini
6 September 2016 14:15
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kogu viamu tegevust stimuleerib, kui sa aju ei stimuleeri siis see mustel ju närbub ära, mis ajast aju stimuleerimine halb on :D
6 September 2016 14:12
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov mis asi see "väär" siis oli ?
6 September 2016 14:11
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ku isa ei suuda ühednada, ühise joonega punktid ühisel joonel mis sisaldavad kommunismi, liberalismi, ateism, alkoholismi ja satanismi, sõda, mustus, inimloomuse alaareng, siis pole inimene suvatsenud eriti sügavalt elu uurida
ja kui veel sinna otsa ei julgeta uurida ja näha selget ühendust tervete inimeste, ilmamaa tarkade,rahu, ilu, usu, maagiliste seente ja taimede, tänapäeva ja mineviku positiivsed arengud
Nu siis ei ole sellel inimesel ju õigust ega mõtet suurte asjade osas, ühiskonnas üldse sõna võtta
ja kui veel sinna otsa ei julgeta uurida ja näha selget ühendust tervete inimeste, ilmamaa tarkade,rahu, ilu, usu, maagiliste seente ja taimede, tänapäeva ja mineviku positiivsed arengud
Nu siis ei ole sellel inimesel ju õigust ega mõtet suurte asjade osas, ühiskonnas üldse sõna võtta
6 September 2016 14:10
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kuid kuna ateist soovib kõike enda kaela võta, siis tuleb vist ka seda kanalit pidi selgitada asju, kuidas iganes parem on, ja mugavam, peaasi ,et edasi arengus jõuab
6 September 2016 14:05
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
muidugi eks jumal andnud, igale sellise võimu, et mõnda aega saab uskuda ja näha maailma sellisena nagu tema soovib.. ja kui psyyhika ja mentaalne võme ei kannata arusaame "kurjadest viamudest" siis inimese enda kaitseks loodud see ajutine mull, kus neid asju ei pea inimesed kohtama ega endale selgeks tegema ,vaid saavad kergemat, krglast elu elada, ilma sügavamate probleemideta,
ja teha muud, maisemat tööd, mida ka vaja, ega kõik tõsiste asjadega saagi tööd teha, ja enamus kes teevad, kukuvad nagunii, sest vastased on tõesti, mitte maised ja võimekad, lisaks maiste kõrval
ja teha muud, maisemat tööd, mida ka vaja, ega kõik tõsiste asjadega saagi tööd teha, ja enamus kes teevad, kukuvad nagunii, sest vastased on tõesti, mitte maised ja võimekad, lisaks maiste kõrval
6 September 2016 14:05
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
annan inimesel võimaluse oma puudusi välja vabandad,a et ta saaks neid ravima hakata, muidu kui öelda, et see inimeseenda arengupeetus, siis lüüakse üldse käegsa
6 September 2016 14:03
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
nu kurja vaimu asemel võime kasutada sõna "vaime alaareng" ku isee sinule sobivam on
6 September 2016 14:02
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kuid kirjuta juurde alati, miks ja mida jagad ja mis su ENDA arvamus on, muidu nagu liberaalid, kes jagavad aga ei julge ise juurde mainida, et siis on mõlemal poolel õigus olemas..
6 September 2016 14:02
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
mis selle minuga jälle on ?
Mul profiilile ka kirjutatud,et matriarhaatiat toetan,
ja aasta aega räkides pole veel see selgeks saanud?
Mul profiilile ka kirjutatud,et matriarhaatiat toetan,
ja aasta aega räkides pole veel see selgeks saanud?
6 September 2016 14:01
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ja soolapuhujate ja nõidade, ja propakanda küüsis Sa ja Su lapsed ilma kahtluseta ongi, ja suurem osa praegust massi ju,
Sest ma ei räägi "uut" infot, vaid asju mis on teada 10 000 aastat ja enamgi veel, räägin elementaarsest
Sest ma ei räägi "uut" infot, vaid asju mis on teada 10 000 aastat ja enamgi veel, räägin elementaarsest
6 September 2016 14:00
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Vahe on selles, et ükski tõsine teadlane, pole avanud haiglaid ega tõsiselt võetav teaduselabor ega uudiste kanal pole kunagi viimase ajastu jooksul, reklaaminud, et alkohol tõsistes kogustes on tervisele hea või et nikotiin kasvatab ajurakke juurde ja selle tarvis peaks kliinuku tegema,
Juba, see, et Alkoholi, nikotiini ja heroiiini VASTASEID aineid samale pulgale tuua, näita tavapärast liberaalide ja kommunistide pestud aju kes nii ära pestud, et pole julgenud isegi uurima hakata, PUNGIL TÄIS olevat informatsiooni ja tõestusmateriali selle kohta, kuidas ja miks need asjad kasulikud on... või veelgi enam..
viina mis väga ohtlik võrreldes node asjade.. füüsiliselt võrreldes, seda julgetakse õvtta.. aga näe neid asju mida oma lapsele võid julgelt sisse sööta, neid ise eijulge... tegelikult see argus muidugi tuleb kurjast viamust mis inimese sees ja teda uhkuse ja alaväärikuse hirmuga takistab, takistab julgemast võtma ja uurima, kuidas asjad on
Juba, see, et Alkoholi, nikotiini ja heroiiini VASTASEID aineid samale pulgale tuua, näita tavapärast liberaalide ja kommunistide pestud aju kes nii ära pestud, et pole julgenud isegi uurima hakata, PUNGIL TÄIS olevat informatsiooni ja tõestusmateriali selle kohta, kuidas ja miks need asjad kasulikud on... või veelgi enam..
viina mis väga ohtlik võrreldes node asjade.. füüsiliselt võrreldes, seda julgetakse õvtta.. aga näe neid asju mida oma lapsele võid julgelt sisse sööta, neid ise eijulge... tegelikult see argus muidugi tuleb kurjast viamust mis inimese sees ja teda uhkuse ja alaväärikuse hirmuga takistab, takistab julgemast võtma ja uurima, kuidas asjad on
6 September 2016 13:59
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
Ja siis veel tema tulisus, aitas ka Clintoni troonile vanasti
nagu need energiad toimivad kui liiga teisi naisi arvestamatult neid selgitada ainult ühes toonis, et siis naiste vool läks tervenisti demokraatide ja liberaalide taha, nägemaks selles võimalust naisi aidata, nii nagu nemad seda nägid
" Joan Williams:, "ERA was defeated when Schlafly turned it into a war among women over gender roles." Historian Judith Glazer-Raymo:
As moderates, we thought we represented the forces of reason and goodwill but failed to take seriously the power of the family values argument and the single-mindedness of Schlafly and her followers. The ERA's defeat seriously damaged the women's movement, destroying its momentum and its potential to foment social change....Eventually, this resulted in feminist dissatisfaction with the Republican Party, giving the Democrats a new source of strength that when combined with overwhelming minority support, helped elect Bill Clinton to the presidency in 1992 and again in 1996 "
Kuid tal mitmeid raamatuid kirjutatud, neid peaks sirvima kui aega tuleb.. " The Power of the Christian Woman",
" No Higher Power: Obama's War on Religious Freedom" ,
"The Flipside of Feminism: What Conservative Women Know—and Men Can't Say "
ja
"A Choice Not an Echo", were distributed in support of Goldwater's 1964 presidential campaign, especially in the hotly fought California winner-take-all delegates GOP primary. In it, Schlafly denounced the Rockefeller Republicans in the Northeast, accusing them of corruption and globalism. Critics called the book a conspiracy theory about "secret kingmakers" controlling the Republican Party.
Mingi kosmosetema oli ka uurin millest see, enamus tunduvad heade pealkirjadega arvestades kes kirjutas
nagu need energiad toimivad kui liiga teisi naisi arvestamatult neid selgitada ainult ühes toonis, et siis naiste vool läks tervenisti demokraatide ja liberaalide taha, nägemaks selles võimalust naisi aidata, nii nagu nemad seda nägid
" Joan Williams:, "ERA was defeated when Schlafly turned it into a war among women over gender roles." Historian Judith Glazer-Raymo:
As moderates, we thought we represented the forces of reason and goodwill but failed to take seriously the power of the family values argument and the single-mindedness of Schlafly and her followers. The ERA's defeat seriously damaged the women's movement, destroying its momentum and its potential to foment social change....Eventually, this resulted in feminist dissatisfaction with the Republican Party, giving the Democrats a new source of strength that when combined with overwhelming minority support, helped elect Bill Clinton to the presidency in 1992 and again in 1996 "
Kuid tal mitmeid raamatuid kirjutatud, neid peaks sirvima kui aega tuleb.. " The Power of the Christian Woman",
" No Higher Power: Obama's War on Religious Freedom" ,
"The Flipside of Feminism: What Conservative Women Know—and Men Can't Say "
ja
"A Choice Not an Echo", were distributed in support of Goldwater's 1964 presidential campaign, especially in the hotly fought California winner-take-all delegates GOP primary. In it, Schlafly denounced the Rockefeller Republicans in the Northeast, accusing them of corruption and globalism. Critics called the book a conspiracy theory about "secret kingmakers" controlling the Republican Party.
Mingi kosmosetema oli ka uurin millest see, enamus tunduvad heade pealkirjadega arvestades kes kirjutas
6 September 2016 13:26
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
Näe, Sul on ka tugevad usu naised meeldima hakanud ,lausa katoliiklased. Ning rangelt alkoholi vastased (keelas oma sopradel enda nimega sarnase napsi tootmist, sest alcohol has "a connotation that is the opposite of conservative values")
MUidugi Trumbi toetamine sai talle ka saatuslikuks.. "In 2016, Schlafly endorsed Donald Trump's candidacy for president. The endorsement soon led to a breach in the Eagle Forum board. Schlafly broke with six dissident members, including her own daughter, Anne Corie, and Cathie Adams, the former short-term state chairman of the Texas Republican Party "
Eagle board oli siis see tema enda põhi organisatsioon, www.eagleforum.org
Niksoni vastu oli ka...
Ja tema feminismi vastu olev positsioon on see, et Naistel peaks olema õigus kodus olla ja neid EI tohi saata sõjaväkke jms,
Mida aga suurem osa tänapäeva veidrike mehi enam vajalikuna ei näe ja arvavad, et naine peaks ka ikka tööd rügama, nagu to samaväärne oleks kui mees, asjades mis ei sobi naisele, tema eri staatuse ja olulisuse pärast.
Schlafly told Time magazine in 1978, "I have cancelled speeches whenever my husband thought that I had been away from home too much."
see mida ta kartis 70ndatel, et naisi hakatakse väkke trikitamaja sundima.. on saanutki tõeks praegu, norras - rootsis juba asi vist pool ametlik.
kuid kriitikud ikka jõudsid uriseda, et:
"Critics of Schlafly saw her advocacy against equal rights and her role as a working professional as a contradiction. Gloria Steinem and author Pia de Solenni, among others, noted what they considered the irony in Schlafly's role as an advocate for the full-time mother and wife, while being herself a lawyer, editor of a monthly newsletter, regular speaker at anti-liberal rallies, and political activist"
MUidugi Trumbi toetamine sai talle ka saatuslikuks.. "In 2016, Schlafly endorsed Donald Trump's candidacy for president. The endorsement soon led to a breach in the Eagle Forum board. Schlafly broke with six dissident members, including her own daughter, Anne Corie, and Cathie Adams, the former short-term state chairman of the Texas Republican Party "
Eagle board oli siis see tema enda põhi organisatsioon, www.eagleforum.org
Niksoni vastu oli ka...
Ja tema feminismi vastu olev positsioon on see, et Naistel peaks olema õigus kodus olla ja neid EI tohi saata sõjaväkke jms,
Mida aga suurem osa tänapäeva veidrike mehi enam vajalikuna ei näe ja arvavad, et naine peaks ka ikka tööd rügama, nagu to samaväärne oleks kui mees, asjades mis ei sobi naisele, tema eri staatuse ja olulisuse pärast.
Schlafly told Time magazine in 1978, "I have cancelled speeches whenever my husband thought that I had been away from home too much."
see mida ta kartis 70ndatel, et naisi hakatakse väkke trikitamaja sundima.. on saanutki tõeks praegu, norras - rootsis juba asi vist pool ametlik.
kuid kriitikud ikka jõudsid uriseda, et:
"Critics of Schlafly saw her advocacy against equal rights and her role as a working professional as a contradiction. Gloria Steinem and author Pia de Solenni, among others, noted what they considered the irony in Schlafly's role as an advocate for the full-time mother and wife, while being herself a lawyer, editor of a monthly newsletter, regular speaker at anti-liberal rallies, and political activist"
http://www.eagleforum.org/
6 September 2016 13:21
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
MIs koolis olid muidu?
6 September 2016 12:34
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ja liikuma sundimine pole sama mis liikumist soosiv ja arendav, ning selgitav ka miks ja kuidas see kasulik on rohkem kui füüsilisel tasandil
6 September 2016 12:33
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Seened muidu ongi mälu teravndamiseks.
Mingit võimlemisi meil olnud pole koolides,
Oli vaid ühes koolis, tunni algul sirutused, et unest üles äratada.
Ja seeni tõeliselt, tasub võtma hakata Sul, siis saab päris eestlusele ka rohkemate dimensioonidega pihta
Seente mitte söömine on üks põhilisi põhjuseid, miks inimestel liigina ununenud on kes ja miks nad siin on ja mida nad tegema pidid muud ku iseda mis öeldakse
Mingit võimlemisi meil olnud pole koolides,
Oli vaid ühes koolis, tunni algul sirutused, et unest üles äratada.
Ja seeni tõeliselt, tasub võtma hakata Sul, siis saab päris eestlusele ka rohkemate dimensioonidega pihta
Seente mitte söömine on üks põhilisi põhjuseid, miks inimestel liigina ununenud on kes ja miks nad siin on ja mida nad tegema pidid muud ku iseda mis öeldakse
6 September 2016 12:32
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov see kõik oli tore küll, aga kui füüsilist treenid ja vaimset ei treeni ning üldhariduslikku, et miks teist aitad on valedel põhimõtetel.. siis see kurnab juba paari generatsiooniga eluvaimu olematuks.
Ahvid ka treenivad palju ega ma neid seepärast oma vaimuvara haldama ei usaldaks
Ahvid ka treenivad palju ega ma neid seepärast oma vaimuvara haldama ei usaldaks
6 September 2016 12:28
Margus Meigo commented on Margus von Einmann's post.
Ma täitsa nõustuks, kui ta oleks julgenud algusest peale aus olla, et tema erakond Keskerakonna, ehk siis venemaa mõjutusel loodud on, et eesti patriootlikusele vesi peale tõmmata,
kuid see pikem projekt miks ja kuidas sellised suurprojektid toimivad, andeksantav kui enamus liikmed ise sellesse ämbrisse astusid ja pole osanud seda õigesti arusaada,
kuid juhtivad inimesed omati pidid märkama, et miks ja kuidas neid trikitati omale toetust saama keskerakonna ainuabiga, ja kelle meedias nad enamasti esinesid, siis jääb ju küsimus MIKS ja kellele kasulik oldi.. ikka selleks, et praguseid parempoolseid lõhestada, upsakus ja uhkus, erimeelsus uutele värsketele sisse söööta, et nad oma marki teeksid sedasi täis ,et nad ei saaks päriselt kuskile juhtima jääda, ja siis ainukese reaalse vailkuna saab peale parempoolsete vastastiku varisemist utlla keskerakond loplikule voimule, ja siis pole enam kedagi kes seda maafiat tagasi hoiaks ,kes omakorda keskerakonda juhendab
ja mis eritingimused siis käiku lähevad, mis salastatud, kui nad loplikule troonile on saanud ja siis juba suure organiseeritusega, kogu poliitika maastiku välisrahadega matavad.
Vahe on selles, et nende taga ootavad päästikul olles reaalsed suured jõud.. kes kohe järgmise sammu ette võtavad, kui praegused parempoolsed, kes juba pool pehemks tymitatud ja pool liberaalseks hakanud eest kaovad... aga praeguste parempoolsete taga ei ole ühtset maailma juhtivat jõudu, on ainult eestlased ise kes on seda proovinud yhte ja teisipidi elus hoida,
siin pole tegu võrtsete mängudega.. vaid eesti mitme ajas ees olev tarkus ja suure viisnurga ühtne kambakas, läbi meie enda erkaondade, me riigi kõikide struktuuride vastu...
üheltpoolt krahmavad need sama viikingid, tehnoloogia äridega, kes siin vanasti olnud (ja kes venemaa tegid) teiseltppoolt meelega pressivad välja teised euroopa pool tulnukad ja viisnurgad.. ja siis veel avalikult näitab hambaid, nagueraldiseisva jõuna suur karu ise... kuig.. nende kaudne rooma impeeriumi võim juhib ideoloogiaga enamusi me vastaseid eroopa jõude.
ja siis kohalikud eestivastased luparidid siin klähvivad, oma riigi ja kallase vastu ka veel, arusaamata, mis meie reaalsed võimalused ja ühised strateegiad on, et üldse see rhavas eksisteerida saaks 500 aasta pärast... sest ega siin keegi sinu raudteesi ja mingit kila kola, raha taga ei aja.. vaid siin o sured viamsed jõud, mida meid unustama pandud ja mida meie maa alt ja pealt kätte soovitakse saada, alustades me tütardest, kellel veel on poolpuhtaid alles..
kuid see pikem projekt miks ja kuidas sellised suurprojektid toimivad, andeksantav kui enamus liikmed ise sellesse ämbrisse astusid ja pole osanud seda õigesti arusaada,
kuid juhtivad inimesed omati pidid märkama, et miks ja kuidas neid trikitati omale toetust saama keskerakonna ainuabiga, ja kelle meedias nad enamasti esinesid, siis jääb ju küsimus MIKS ja kellele kasulik oldi.. ikka selleks, et praguseid parempoolseid lõhestada, upsakus ja uhkus, erimeelsus uutele värsketele sisse söööta, et nad oma marki teeksid sedasi täis ,et nad ei saaks päriselt kuskile juhtima jääda, ja siis ainukese reaalse vailkuna saab peale parempoolsete vastastiku varisemist utlla keskerakond loplikule voimule, ja siis pole enam kedagi kes seda maafiat tagasi hoiaks ,kes omakorda keskerakonda juhendab
ja mis eritingimused siis käiku lähevad, mis salastatud, kui nad loplikule troonile on saanud ja siis juba suure organiseeritusega, kogu poliitika maastiku välisrahadega matavad.
Vahe on selles, et nende taga ootavad päästikul olles reaalsed suured jõud.. kes kohe järgmise sammu ette võtavad, kui praegused parempoolsed, kes juba pool pehemks tymitatud ja pool liberaalseks hakanud eest kaovad... aga praeguste parempoolsete taga ei ole ühtset maailma juhtivat jõudu, on ainult eestlased ise kes on seda proovinud yhte ja teisipidi elus hoida,
siin pole tegu võrtsete mängudega.. vaid eesti mitme ajas ees olev tarkus ja suure viisnurga ühtne kambakas, läbi meie enda erkaondade, me riigi kõikide struktuuride vastu...
üheltpoolt krahmavad need sama viikingid, tehnoloogia äridega, kes siin vanasti olnud (ja kes venemaa tegid) teiseltppoolt meelega pressivad välja teised euroopa pool tulnukad ja viisnurgad.. ja siis veel avalikult näitab hambaid, nagueraldiseisva jõuna suur karu ise... kuig.. nende kaudne rooma impeeriumi võim juhib ideoloogiaga enamusi me vastaseid eroopa jõude.
ja siis kohalikud eestivastased luparidid siin klähvivad, oma riigi ja kallase vastu ka veel, arusaamata, mis meie reaalsed võimalused ja ühised strateegiad on, et üldse see rhavas eksisteerida saaks 500 aasta pärast... sest ega siin keegi sinu raudteesi ja mingit kila kola, raha taga ei aja.. vaid siin o sured viamsed jõud, mida meid unustama pandud ja mida meie maa alt ja pealt kätte soovitakse saada, alustades me tütardest, kellel veel on poolpuhtaid alles..
6 September 2016 12:15
Margus Meigo replied to Sass Vask's comment.
eksami peaks lausa tegema ja sertifikaadi saama, enne hääletamist, mitte ei peaks suvaliselt igaüks hääletama teadmata miks ja kelle poolt
6 September 2016 12:07
Margus Meigo replied to Sass Vask's comment.
E hääletus on ÜLIiDEAALNE! Ainuke asi mis teha tuleb, aga mida LIBERAALID ja keski meelsed ei luba, on kaotade see "must kast" vahepealt, et näha oleks kes kelle poolt hääletas.
Igasugune "salaja hääletmaine" tuleb täielikult likvideerida, sest see on liberalismi ja demokraatidest kommunistide põhi eesmärk mille kaudu nad oma pettusi siiani elus hoiavad.
Mure pole keskerakonna laadsetel mitte, et keegi petab, vaid et SIIS nad ei saa enam petta, kui digina kõik näha on.
Ja järgi kontrollitav, igaühel, oma ID kaardiga tulevikus, kes hääletas ja kus su hääled on ja kui palju kokku on Su linnas ja maal.
Mõttle ka mida soovid, soovid digi hääeltuse lopetamist,
mis asi siis VEEL lihtsamini, odavamalt, kiiremini ja arusaadvamalt kindlustada saaks, et kõik kontrollida saavad, ilma vähimagi pettuseta, kes kelle poolt hääletas?
See must kast pandi just liberaalide demokraadi saatanismi fännidele sinna, suure pingutusena, ja on üks kallis jubin, ja täeisti mõtetu, sest mitte mingil juhul ei peaks inimene saama salaja oma riigi liidrite eest hääletada
Igasugune "salaja hääletmaine" tuleb täielikult likvideerida, sest see on liberalismi ja demokraatidest kommunistide põhi eesmärk mille kaudu nad oma pettusi siiani elus hoiavad.
Mure pole keskerakonna laadsetel mitte, et keegi petab, vaid et SIIS nad ei saa enam petta, kui digina kõik näha on.
Ja järgi kontrollitav, igaühel, oma ID kaardiga tulevikus, kes hääletas ja kus su hääled on ja kui palju kokku on Su linnas ja maal.
Mõttle ka mida soovid, soovid digi hääeltuse lopetamist,
mis asi siis VEEL lihtsamini, odavamalt, kiiremini ja arusaadvamalt kindlustada saaks, et kõik kontrollida saavad, ilma vähimagi pettuseta, kes kelle poolt hääletas?
See must kast pandi just liberaalide demokraadi saatanismi fännidele sinna, suure pingutusena, ja on üks kallis jubin, ja täeisti mõtetu, sest mitte mingil juhul ei peaks inimene saama salaja oma riigi liidrite eest hääletada
6 September 2016 12:07
Margus Meigo replied to Sass Vask's comment.
mis algne idioodtne jabur luulu see on, et "Keskerakonna hääli liideti reformile" nu ise ka aru saad kui utoopiline ja võimatu see sellistes arvutisüsteemides on, oled nende ehitamise juures olnud v, et seda üldse aru saad, kui võimatu see on?
Sellist sodi ei sobi ühelgil Eestlasel rääkida, ja paras oleks pass ära võtta sellise riigivastase punase propakanda jagamise eest.
Tule mõistusele
Sellist sodi ei sobi ühelgil Eestlasel rääkida, ja paras oleks pass ära võtta sellise riigivastase punase propakanda jagamise eest.
Tule mõistusele
6 September 2016 12:02
Margus Meigo commented on Анастасия Клименко's photo.
Why these sharp metal stikc around the bretty neck ?
Why would free women do this.. usually.. they not..
Why would free women do this.. usually.. they not..
6 September 2016 11:54
Margus Meigo commented on Ott Rahumägi's photo.
:D
6 September 2016 11:53
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Ilma kahtluseta
6 September 2016 11:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// Sellised talgud veel on kasulikud, muidugi puude istutus talgud ka peaks iga aasta olema opilastel.. küll kohti leiab kuhu istutada //
Pikakannu koolile ja lastehoiule järgmise aasta talvepuude tegemine ja riita ladumine. Lapsed saavad ka järgmisel aastal soojas koolimajas õppida.
Talgutööd Puude lõhkumine ja ladumine. Kooli ümbruse korrastamine. Korvpalliplatsi korrastamine. Õunapuude lõikamine.
http://talgud.teemeara.ee/events/pikakanu-kooli-puude-talgud
Pikakannu koolile ja lastehoiule järgmise aasta talvepuude tegemine ja riita ladumine. Lapsed saavad ka järgmisel aastal soojas koolimajas õppida.
Talgutööd Puude lõhkumine ja ladumine. Kooli ümbruse korrastamine. Korvpalliplatsi korrastamine. Õunapuude lõikamine.
http://talgud.teemeara.ee/events/pikakanu-kooli-puude-talgud
http://talgud.teemeara.ee/events/pikakanu-kooli-puude-talgud
6 September 2016 11:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.trivselledare.se/se/HEM/
http://www.trivselledare.se/se/HEM/
6 September 2016 11:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.teatoimeta.ee/Mangime_oues_1008.htm
http://www.teatoimeta.ee/Mangime_oues_1008.htm
6 September 2016 11:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.playworks.org/about/our-story – ameeriklaste kogemus
http://www.playworks.org/about/our-story
6 September 2016 11:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBSVZdTQmDs – ameeriklaste kogemus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBSVZdTQmDs
6 September 2016 11:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kommentaar:
Suhtumisest ja mõtlemisharjumustest. Kool ongi haridusasutus ja õppimise koht. Kaasaegses õpikäsituses ei piirdu teadmiste omandamine vaid õpikutes kirjapandu meelde jätmisega. Õpitakse igal sammul. Ka mürades ja joostes. Õpitakse valima tegevusele sobivat kohta ja häälekasutust, erinevates olukordades käituma.
Koolis ei välistata hullamist ega aktiivset liikumist, sellele tuleb leida vaid õige aeg ja koht.
Suur hulk õpilasi loobub saalivahetunnis tegutsemast mitte soovimatuse pärast ennast liigutada, vaid lärmi tõttu. Vaiksemat keskkonda soovivatele lastele võimaldatakse vahetunde klassis veeta. See võimalus ei soosi aga aktiivset liikumist. Mõnes koolis on sisse seatud vaikne vahetund.
Põhjamaade eeskujul tuleks leida enam võimalusi lapsi õue suunata. Lärmakamad õpilased saavad seal kasutada häält, mis siseruumidesse kuidagi ei sobi ning õues häiriv ei ole.
Tõsi ta on, et vaid õue saatmine ei pane lapsi liikuma. Keskkond peab olema aktiivsusele kutsuv, ahvatlev. Esialgu oleks kindlasti vaja ka õpetajate poolset suunamist ja kaasatust. Hiljem oskavad lapsed juba ise oma aega aktiivselt sisustada. Nagu see toimub Norras ja Rootsis.
Tore, kui kooli eesotsas on liikumist harrastav juht. Heaks näiteks siis Vääna-Jõesuu või Muraste kool, kus direktorid aktiivselt koos lastega õuevahetundides palli taovad. Mõlemas koolis on möödunud aastast sisse viidud tantsuvahetund, ühes igapäevaselt.
Ameeriklaste kogemustele toetudes võiks lapsed liikuda saada juba enne
tundide algust võimlas erinevaid harjutusi tehes või klassiruumis Just
Dance’i saatel. Paraneb tunnidistsipliin ja akadeemiline edukus.
Vunk! on vahva võrgustik, jagab head kogemust. Selline ettevõtmine võiks olla igas vallas – heade ideede jagamine koolide vahel. Ei ole ju vaja võistleda, kelle koolis on sündinud ägedamad ideed ja oodata konverentse, et neid siis teistelegi poetada. Mis aga toimib, jaga naabriga, sest temagi koolis õpivad meie oma Eesti väikesed inimesed, kelle igaühe tervis ja rõõm meile kõigile korda peaks minema.
Edu Vunk!-ile ja meile kõigile!
Väike ideepank:
http://www.koolisport.ee/index.php?id=noor-lovisuda – eestlastelt
Suhtumisest ja mõtlemisharjumustest. Kool ongi haridusasutus ja õppimise koht. Kaasaegses õpikäsituses ei piirdu teadmiste omandamine vaid õpikutes kirjapandu meelde jätmisega. Õpitakse igal sammul. Ka mürades ja joostes. Õpitakse valima tegevusele sobivat kohta ja häälekasutust, erinevates olukordades käituma.
Koolis ei välistata hullamist ega aktiivset liikumist, sellele tuleb leida vaid õige aeg ja koht.
Suur hulk õpilasi loobub saalivahetunnis tegutsemast mitte soovimatuse pärast ennast liigutada, vaid lärmi tõttu. Vaiksemat keskkonda soovivatele lastele võimaldatakse vahetunde klassis veeta. See võimalus ei soosi aga aktiivset liikumist. Mõnes koolis on sisse seatud vaikne vahetund.
Põhjamaade eeskujul tuleks leida enam võimalusi lapsi õue suunata. Lärmakamad õpilased saavad seal kasutada häält, mis siseruumidesse kuidagi ei sobi ning õues häiriv ei ole.
Tõsi ta on, et vaid õue saatmine ei pane lapsi liikuma. Keskkond peab olema aktiivsusele kutsuv, ahvatlev. Esialgu oleks kindlasti vaja ka õpetajate poolset suunamist ja kaasatust. Hiljem oskavad lapsed juba ise oma aega aktiivselt sisustada. Nagu see toimub Norras ja Rootsis.
Tore, kui kooli eesotsas on liikumist harrastav juht. Heaks näiteks siis Vääna-Jõesuu või Muraste kool, kus direktorid aktiivselt koos lastega õuevahetundides palli taovad. Mõlemas koolis on möödunud aastast sisse viidud tantsuvahetund, ühes igapäevaselt.
Ameeriklaste kogemustele toetudes võiks lapsed liikuda saada juba enne
tundide algust võimlas erinevaid harjutusi tehes või klassiruumis Just
Dance’i saatel. Paraneb tunnidistsipliin ja akadeemiline edukus.
Vunk! on vahva võrgustik, jagab head kogemust. Selline ettevõtmine võiks olla igas vallas – heade ideede jagamine koolide vahel. Ei ole ju vaja võistleda, kelle koolis on sündinud ägedamad ideed ja oodata konverentse, et neid siis teistelegi poetada. Mis aga toimib, jaga naabriga, sest temagi koolis õpivad meie oma Eesti väikesed inimesed, kelle igaühe tervis ja rõõm meile kõigile korda peaks minema.
Edu Vunk!-ile ja meile kõigile!
Väike ideepank:
http://www.koolisport.ee/index.php?id=noor-lovisuda – eestlastelt
6 September 2016 11:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Veelkorra:
IDEID VAHETUNDIDE SISUSTAMISEKS
Kummikeks nii poistele kui ka tüdrukutele.
Keksukastide joonistamine koridoridesse.
Käepäraste vahenditega loodud liikumismängud seintel ja põrandal.
Kaugushüppejooned põrandale.
Tantsuvahetunnid õpilaste enda juhendamisel.
IDEID AINETUNDIDEKS
Kooli ümbruse ja õueala kasutamine.
Tunnid, kus õppetöö tegevused ei põhine ainult istumisel.
Liikumispausid (näiteks kooliraadiot kasutades).
Rohkem rühmatöid, mis võimaldavad istumisaega katkestada.
Koolipinkide ümbertõstmine.
Tunniteemaga seotud küsimustele vastamine liigutuste abil.
Aktiivsuskaartide abil tegevuse jäljendamine.
Juttudes kirjeldatud tegevuse jäljendamine.
IDEID VAHETUNDIDE SISUSTAMISEKS
Kummikeks nii poistele kui ka tüdrukutele.
Keksukastide joonistamine koridoridesse.
Käepäraste vahenditega loodud liikumismängud seintel ja põrandal.
Kaugushüppejooned põrandale.
Tantsuvahetunnid õpilaste enda juhendamisel.
IDEID AINETUNDIDEKS
Kooli ümbruse ja õueala kasutamine.
Tunnid, kus õppetöö tegevused ei põhine ainult istumisel.
Liikumispausid (näiteks kooliraadiot kasutades).
Rohkem rühmatöid, mis võimaldavad istumisaega katkestada.
Koolipinkide ümbertõstmine.
Tunniteemaga seotud küsimustele vastamine liigutuste abil.
Aktiivsuskaartide abil tegevuse jäljendamine.
Juttudes kirjeldatud tegevuse jäljendamine.
6 September 2016 11:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(sellel lehel saab ka kommenteerida)
Vanad mängud jälle au sees. Antsla gümnaasiumis õpetasid T.O.R.E. õpilased veebruaris noorematele kummikeksu. Märtsis toimunud keksuturniiril osales 26 õpilast esimesest neljanda klassini. Foto: Kristina Siska
Tartu ülikooli vedamisel on koostöös MTÜ-ga Hared, HTM-i, sotsiaalministeeriumi ning kümne Eesti kooliga loodud liikuma kutsuvate koolide võrgustik Vunk!, kus katsetame pilootkoolide õpilaste (ja ka õpetajate) liikumist toetavaid tegevusi ning kogume ideid ja kogemusi.
koolipäevadel liigub Eesti 7–13-aastastest lastest piisavalt vaid 24%. Tähelepanu väärib ka sugude erinevus. Kui soovitusliku liikumisaktiivsuse tasemeni küündis 2–11-aastastest poistest 27%, siis sama vanade tüdrukute puhul oli protsent vaid 13. Toodud näited iseloomustavad seejuures ainult nooremaid lapsi – vanuse lisandudes kehaline aktiivsus langeb ja istumisaeg suureneb. Eestis väljatoodud näitajad, mis jäävad Põhjamaade tasemele tugevasti alla, on laste tervise ja arengu seisukohalt liiga madalad. Sellest ka sügisel tehtud liikumisuuringute mitterahuldav hinne.
Laste ja noorte liikumisaktiivsuse kujunemisel on oluline roll nii kodul, ühiskondlikel väärtushinnangutel kui kindlasti ka koolil. Näiteks leidsid Eesti 6. klassi õpilaste uuringus ligi pooled, et neil puudub võimalus vahetunnis aktiivselt liikuda
Ka koolitee on siin üks olulisi teemasid. Ideaalis võiksid kõik lapsed läbida vähemalt osa kooliteest jala, rattaga või muul moel aktiivselt. Paraku tuuakse nad sageli kooli autoga ning viiakse pärast tundide lõppu otse huviringidesse-trennidesse, nii et ise liikuda ei ole neil aega ega võimalust.
Omajagu takistusi on seotud suhtumise ja mõtlemisharjumustega. Aktiivne liikumine tundub laste tervisele ohtlik (treppidel kukkumine!) ning lärm ja tormamine ei näi õpikeskkonda sobivat. Laste liikumise takistuseks ei pruugigi olla mitte niivõrd kitsad ruumid või ajanappus, vaid haridusasutusega kaasas käiv nn akadeemiline õhkkond, mis eeldab, et kool on õppimise, mitte jooksmise ja hullamise koht.
Vahetundide veetmine koolikoridori seina najale nõjatudes ja üksisilmi ekraanile vaadates pärsib tublisti nii laste liikumist kui ka suhtlemist. Nutitelefonide liigne kasutamine ei mõju hästi ka õppeedukusele, käitumisele ega tervisele. Kõigi nende asjaolude tulemusel ongi laste kehaline aktiivsus väga madal ning vajadus lahendusi leida suur.
Kehaline kasvatus,
Ehkki kehalise kasvatuse tunnis lapsed liiguvad, ei pruugi ainult kehalise tundide arvu või treenimisvõimaluste suurendamine olla efektiivne lahendus. Pahatihti iseloomustab treeninguid ja organiseeritud sporti võistluslikkus: lapsed ei treeni mitte heaolu, rõõmu ja tervise, vaid võitude nimel. See ei pruugi aga aidata kaasa liikumisharrastusoskuste tekkimisele. Uuringutest on selgunud, et kehalise kasvatuse tund ei taga lastele alati piisavalt liikumisvõimalusi. Ühes kehalise kasvatuse tunnis on soovitusliku aktiivsuse tasemega aega keskmiselt vaid 13–15 minutit, ülejäänu võib kuluda tegevusjuhendite kuulamisele või oma hüppe-, viske-, jooksukorra ootamisele. Hea uudis on, et kehaline kasvatus on õppeainena juba muutuste teel ning üks oluline suund on toetada õpilaste liikumissoovi.
Sageli ei nõua lahenduste leidmine keerukaid ja struktuurseid muutusi, vaid raamidest väljaspool mõtlemist. Liikumine ei tähenda tingimata organiseeritud sporti ega lihtsalt arutut ringijooksmist. Abi võib olla näiteks aktiivsetest liikumis- või õuevahetundidest, ainetundide sidumisest liikumisega või aktiivse transpordivõimaluse kasutamine. Näiteks saab ainetundides kasutada füüsiliselt aktiivseid õppemeetodeid, liikumis-sirutuspause ja muud sellist, mis seob aktiivsuse loomuliku õpitegevusega. Abiks võivad olla ka väikesed muutused: näiteks ei jaga õpetaja töölehti istuvatele õpilastele, vaid õpilased tulevad ise õpetaja juurde. Vahetevahel võiks toolidel istumise asemel istuda võimlemispallidel või rühmatööde arutelul näiteks püsti seista.
Vahetundide korraldamisel on ka Eestis, aga eelkõige just Soomes ja Skandinaavias koolidel väga häid kogemusi. Näiteks eri õppeastmetel eri aegadel toimuvad pikemad vahetunnid, mille sisustavad kas õpilased ise, huvijuht või õpetajad. Või ka direktor ise, kes vahetunnil õpilastega õues jalgpalli mängib; näiteks Vääna-Jõesuu koolis on see tavapärane. Vahetunni sisuks sobivad siin nii YouTube’ist leitavate tantsuvideote järgi tantsimine kui ka rahvatants, nii jooksumängud kui ka majasisene või -väline orienteerumine. Ka võib lisaks kehalisele kasvatusele paigutada koolipäevadesse eraldi liikumistunde.
. On koole, kus tegevuse läbiviijatena rakendatakse edukalt vanemaid õpilasi, pakkudes sellega neile juhtimiskogemust ja kõigile kooliastmetele omavahelist suhtlemisvõimalust.
Võrgustik, millele andsime nime Vunk!, koondab inimesi Tartu ülikooli liikumislaborist, ühiskonnateaduste instituudist, MTÜ-st Koolitus- ja Nõustamiskeskus Hared ning eri tüüpi koolidest peamiselt Lõuna-Eestist. Oleme pilootprojekti kaasanud võimalikult erineva näoga koolid, kes tegutsevad nii suuremates kui väiksemates hoonetes nii linnas kui ka maal. Nii saab iga kool pakkuda väärtuslikku kogemust oma tingimustest, vajadustest ja võimalustest lähtuvalt. See võimaldab saada üksteiselt ideid, teiste vigadest õppida ja üksteisele nõu anda. Võrgustiku koolid planeerivad sel aastal luua koolidesse terviseradasid või avada võimla vahetundides kasutamiseks. Võimalike ideede leidmisel ja ka lahenduste elluviimisel on oluline roll õpilastel, kes osalevad aktiivselt.
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VÕRGUSTIKUS OSALEVAD KOOLID
Maakoolid
Anna Haava nimeline Pala kool
Nõo põhikool
Rõuge põhikool
Suuremate linnade koolid
Tallinna Kuristiku gümnaasium
Tartu Descartes’i kool
Tartu erakool
Tartu Mart Reiniku kool
Tartu Tamme kool
Väiksemate linnade koolid
Antsla gümnaasium
Võru Kreutzwaldi kool
IDEID VAHETUNDIDE SISUSTAMISEKS
Kummikeks nii poistele kui ka tüdrukutele.
Keksukastide joonistamine koridoridesse.
Käepäraste vahenditega loodud liikumismängud seintel ja põrandal.
Kaugushüppejooned põrandale.
Tantsuvahetunnid õpilaste enda juhendamisel.
IDEID AINETUNDIDEKS
Kooli ümbruse ja õueala kasutamine.
Tunnid, kus õppetöö tegevused ei põhine ainult istumisel.
Liikumispausid (näiteks kooliraadiot kasutades).
Rohkem rühmatöid, mis võimaldavad istumisaega katkestada.
Koolipinkide ümbertõstmine.
Tunniteemaga seotud küsimustele vastamine liigutuste abil.
Aktiivsuskaartide abil tegevuse jäljendamine.
Juttudes kirjeldatud tegevuse jäljendamine.
http://opleht.ee/32437-kuidas-luua-lastele-koolides-liikumisvoimalusi/
Vanad mängud jälle au sees. Antsla gümnaasiumis õpetasid T.O.R.E. õpilased veebruaris noorematele kummikeksu. Märtsis toimunud keksuturniiril osales 26 õpilast esimesest neljanda klassini. Foto: Kristina Siska
Tartu ülikooli vedamisel on koostöös MTÜ-ga Hared, HTM-i, sotsiaalministeeriumi ning kümne Eesti kooliga loodud liikuma kutsuvate koolide võrgustik Vunk!, kus katsetame pilootkoolide õpilaste (ja ka õpetajate) liikumist toetavaid tegevusi ning kogume ideid ja kogemusi.
koolipäevadel liigub Eesti 7–13-aastastest lastest piisavalt vaid 24%. Tähelepanu väärib ka sugude erinevus. Kui soovitusliku liikumisaktiivsuse tasemeni küündis 2–11-aastastest poistest 27%, siis sama vanade tüdrukute puhul oli protsent vaid 13. Toodud näited iseloomustavad seejuures ainult nooremaid lapsi – vanuse lisandudes kehaline aktiivsus langeb ja istumisaeg suureneb. Eestis väljatoodud näitajad, mis jäävad Põhjamaade tasemele tugevasti alla, on laste tervise ja arengu seisukohalt liiga madalad. Sellest ka sügisel tehtud liikumisuuringute mitterahuldav hinne.
Laste ja noorte liikumisaktiivsuse kujunemisel on oluline roll nii kodul, ühiskondlikel väärtushinnangutel kui kindlasti ka koolil. Näiteks leidsid Eesti 6. klassi õpilaste uuringus ligi pooled, et neil puudub võimalus vahetunnis aktiivselt liikuda
Ka koolitee on siin üks olulisi teemasid. Ideaalis võiksid kõik lapsed läbida vähemalt osa kooliteest jala, rattaga või muul moel aktiivselt. Paraku tuuakse nad sageli kooli autoga ning viiakse pärast tundide lõppu otse huviringidesse-trennidesse, nii et ise liikuda ei ole neil aega ega võimalust.
Omajagu takistusi on seotud suhtumise ja mõtlemisharjumustega. Aktiivne liikumine tundub laste tervisele ohtlik (treppidel kukkumine!) ning lärm ja tormamine ei näi õpikeskkonda sobivat. Laste liikumise takistuseks ei pruugigi olla mitte niivõrd kitsad ruumid või ajanappus, vaid haridusasutusega kaasas käiv nn akadeemiline õhkkond, mis eeldab, et kool on õppimise, mitte jooksmise ja hullamise koht.
Vahetundide veetmine koolikoridori seina najale nõjatudes ja üksisilmi ekraanile vaadates pärsib tublisti nii laste liikumist kui ka suhtlemist. Nutitelefonide liigne kasutamine ei mõju hästi ka õppeedukusele, käitumisele ega tervisele. Kõigi nende asjaolude tulemusel ongi laste kehaline aktiivsus väga madal ning vajadus lahendusi leida suur.
Kehaline kasvatus,
Ehkki kehalise kasvatuse tunnis lapsed liiguvad, ei pruugi ainult kehalise tundide arvu või treenimisvõimaluste suurendamine olla efektiivne lahendus. Pahatihti iseloomustab treeninguid ja organiseeritud sporti võistluslikkus: lapsed ei treeni mitte heaolu, rõõmu ja tervise, vaid võitude nimel. See ei pruugi aga aidata kaasa liikumisharrastusoskuste tekkimisele. Uuringutest on selgunud, et kehalise kasvatuse tund ei taga lastele alati piisavalt liikumisvõimalusi. Ühes kehalise kasvatuse tunnis on soovitusliku aktiivsuse tasemega aega keskmiselt vaid 13–15 minutit, ülejäänu võib kuluda tegevusjuhendite kuulamisele või oma hüppe-, viske-, jooksukorra ootamisele. Hea uudis on, et kehaline kasvatus on õppeainena juba muutuste teel ning üks oluline suund on toetada õpilaste liikumissoovi.
Sageli ei nõua lahenduste leidmine keerukaid ja struktuurseid muutusi, vaid raamidest väljaspool mõtlemist. Liikumine ei tähenda tingimata organiseeritud sporti ega lihtsalt arutut ringijooksmist. Abi võib olla näiteks aktiivsetest liikumis- või õuevahetundidest, ainetundide sidumisest liikumisega või aktiivse transpordivõimaluse kasutamine. Näiteks saab ainetundides kasutada füüsiliselt aktiivseid õppemeetodeid, liikumis-sirutuspause ja muud sellist, mis seob aktiivsuse loomuliku õpitegevusega. Abiks võivad olla ka väikesed muutused: näiteks ei jaga õpetaja töölehti istuvatele õpilastele, vaid õpilased tulevad ise õpetaja juurde. Vahetevahel võiks toolidel istumise asemel istuda võimlemispallidel või rühmatööde arutelul näiteks püsti seista.
Vahetundide korraldamisel on ka Eestis, aga eelkõige just Soomes ja Skandinaavias koolidel väga häid kogemusi. Näiteks eri õppeastmetel eri aegadel toimuvad pikemad vahetunnid, mille sisustavad kas õpilased ise, huvijuht või õpetajad. Või ka direktor ise, kes vahetunnil õpilastega õues jalgpalli mängib; näiteks Vääna-Jõesuu koolis on see tavapärane. Vahetunni sisuks sobivad siin nii YouTube’ist leitavate tantsuvideote järgi tantsimine kui ka rahvatants, nii jooksumängud kui ka majasisene või -väline orienteerumine. Ka võib lisaks kehalisele kasvatusele paigutada koolipäevadesse eraldi liikumistunde.
. On koole, kus tegevuse läbiviijatena rakendatakse edukalt vanemaid õpilasi, pakkudes sellega neile juhtimiskogemust ja kõigile kooliastmetele omavahelist suhtlemisvõimalust.
Võrgustik, millele andsime nime Vunk!, koondab inimesi Tartu ülikooli liikumislaborist, ühiskonnateaduste instituudist, MTÜ-st Koolitus- ja Nõustamiskeskus Hared ning eri tüüpi koolidest peamiselt Lõuna-Eestist. Oleme pilootprojekti kaasanud võimalikult erineva näoga koolid, kes tegutsevad nii suuremates kui väiksemates hoonetes nii linnas kui ka maal. Nii saab iga kool pakkuda väärtuslikku kogemust oma tingimustest, vajadustest ja võimalustest lähtuvalt. See võimaldab saada üksteiselt ideid, teiste vigadest õppida ja üksteisele nõu anda. Võrgustiku koolid planeerivad sel aastal luua koolidesse terviseradasid või avada võimla vahetundides kasutamiseks. Võimalike ideede leidmisel ja ka lahenduste elluviimisel on oluline roll õpilastel, kes osalevad aktiivselt.
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VÕRGUSTIKUS OSALEVAD KOOLID
Maakoolid
Anna Haava nimeline Pala kool
Nõo põhikool
Rõuge põhikool
Suuremate linnade koolid
Tallinna Kuristiku gümnaasium
Tartu Descartes’i kool
Tartu erakool
Tartu Mart Reiniku kool
Tartu Tamme kool
Väiksemate linnade koolid
Antsla gümnaasium
Võru Kreutzwaldi kool
IDEID VAHETUNDIDE SISUSTAMISEKS
Kummikeks nii poistele kui ka tüdrukutele.
Keksukastide joonistamine koridoridesse.
Käepäraste vahenditega loodud liikumismängud seintel ja põrandal.
Kaugushüppejooned põrandale.
Tantsuvahetunnid õpilaste enda juhendamisel.
IDEID AINETUNDIDEKS
Kooli ümbruse ja õueala kasutamine.
Tunnid, kus õppetöö tegevused ei põhine ainult istumisel.
Liikumispausid (näiteks kooliraadiot kasutades).
Rohkem rühmatöid, mis võimaldavad istumisaega katkestada.
Koolipinkide ümbertõstmine.
Tunniteemaga seotud küsimustele vastamine liigutuste abil.
Aktiivsuskaartide abil tegevuse jäljendamine.
Juttudes kirjeldatud tegevuse jäljendamine.
http://opleht.ee/32437-kuidas-luua-lastele-koolides-liikumisvoimalusi/
http://opleht.ee/32437-kuidas-luua-lastele-koolides-liikumisvoimalusi/
6 September 2016 11:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://koolielu.ee/info/readnews/410853/valga-vene-gumnaasium-roomustab-digiklassi-voimaluste-ule
http://koolielu.ee/info/readnews/410853/valga-vene-gumnaasium-roomustab-digiklassi-voimaluste-ule
6 September 2016 10:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Samal teemal:
http://koolielu.ee/info/readnews/417363/nutiseadme-liigkasutus-soltub-motteviisist
http://koolielu.ee/info/readnews/417363/nutiseadme-liigkasutus-soltub-motteviisist
http://koolielu.ee/info/readnews/417363/nutiseadme-liigkasutus-soltub-motteviisist
6 September 2016 10:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Valga Priimetsa Kooli õpilased ja õpetajad otsustasid proovida maastikumängu, mis kooostatud pandud Loquizi keskkonnas. Füüsiline aktiivsus ja interaktiivsus sobisid vahetunnis kokku suurepäraselt.
Loo autor on Valga Priimetsa Kooli haridustehnoloog Eva Tšepurko.
Valga Priimetsa Kool (endine Valga Vene Gümnaasium) liitus tervist edendavate koolide võrgustikuga juba üle kümne aasta tagasi. On toimunud nii kooli olümpiamängud kui ka erinevad sportlikud ning terviseteemalised üritused. Kooli tervisenõukogu esimehe Tiina Lalli sõnul soovis aga koolipere midagi enamat.
Kooli uues arengukavas on tähtsal kohal tervislike eluviiside propageerimine, aga ka innovaatilisus. Kui kooli haridustehnoloogina planeerisin järjekordset digivahetundi õpetajatele, ei osanud keegi arvata, et õpilased saavad sellest infost valesti aru, ehk siis nad arvasid, et see vahetund on justkui neile mõeldud. Nii raske oli öelda ei kümnetele särasilmsetele lastele, kes minu ukse taga seisid ja küsisid, mida nad digivahetunnis tegema peavad. Ütlesin neile: “Seekord on digivahetund õpetajatele mõeldud.“ Muidugi võiks lubada õpilastele koos klassiõpetajaga veeta aega nutivahetunnis. Samas on meil nii palju tunde nutitehnika ja projektoriga. Parem, kui nende silmad vahetunnis puhkaksid.
Linna kooliarst Aasa Põder pöörab alati tähelepanu, et kool saadaks võimalusel vahetunnis lapsed õue liikuma. Nii sündiski kooliperes mõte, et võiks teha liikuvad digivahetunnid õpilastele. Kuna koolis on tahvelarvutid, siis tehnikaga probleemi ei olnud. Nii prooviski siis kool 11. septembril uut viisi sisustamaks vahetundi. Lapsed olid jagatud meeskondadeks, kuhu kuulusid nii tüdrukud kui poisid. Tahvelarvutitele oli paigaldatud rakendusi, mis kasutavad GPS-navigeerimist. Kooli õues ootasid lapsi põnevad ülesanded. Tahvelarvutis tuli uus küsimus lahti alles siis, kui meeskond õige asukoha leidis
„Me pidime tegema meeskonna selfisid, lahendama matemaatikaülesanded, ära arvama, mitu jalga on ämblikul,“ kommenteeris õnnelik osalenu Elizaveta Krivonkina.
„Mäng meeldis väga. Mängu tuleb teha ka õpetajatele, aga neile tuleb anda lisaaega. Mina tahan oma tundides GPS-võimalusi kasutada. Mõtted juba liiguvad,“ nentis mängus osalenud 4.b klassi juhtaja Nella Riit.
Kui liikuvat digivahetundi planeerisime, siis olime natuke mures: mis siis, kui tahvelarvuti maha kukub? Kas kõik taipavad õue jope selga panna ja jalatsid vahetada? Aga kuna mäng tundus põnev, võeti see kõigest hoolimata ette.
Koolielus alguskuu artikli Loquizist lugesin, siis teadsin, et soovitatud keskkond kindlasti ületab kõik meie ootusi. Kokkuvõtteks võib öelda, et kõigil oli põnev. Esmaspäeval proovime uut mängu!
Oktoobris on oodata Valga Priimetsa Kooli ja Valga Põhikooli ühiseid üritusi loodusnädala raames. Ka seal on kindlasti plaanis kasutada maastikumängu ideed.
https://koolielu.ee/info/readnews/465345/valga-koolis-toimuvad-aktiivse-liikumisega-digivahetunnid
Samal teemal:
http://koolielu.ee/info/readnews/417363/nutiseadme-liigkasutus-soltub-motteviisist
http://koolielu.ee/info/readnews/410853/valga-vene-gumnaasium-roomustab-digiklassi-voimaluste-ule
Loo autor on Valga Priimetsa Kooli haridustehnoloog Eva Tšepurko.
Valga Priimetsa Kool (endine Valga Vene Gümnaasium) liitus tervist edendavate koolide võrgustikuga juba üle kümne aasta tagasi. On toimunud nii kooli olümpiamängud kui ka erinevad sportlikud ning terviseteemalised üritused. Kooli tervisenõukogu esimehe Tiina Lalli sõnul soovis aga koolipere midagi enamat.
Kooli uues arengukavas on tähtsal kohal tervislike eluviiside propageerimine, aga ka innovaatilisus. Kui kooli haridustehnoloogina planeerisin järjekordset digivahetundi õpetajatele, ei osanud keegi arvata, et õpilased saavad sellest infost valesti aru, ehk siis nad arvasid, et see vahetund on justkui neile mõeldud. Nii raske oli öelda ei kümnetele särasilmsetele lastele, kes minu ukse taga seisid ja küsisid, mida nad digivahetunnis tegema peavad. Ütlesin neile: “Seekord on digivahetund õpetajatele mõeldud.“ Muidugi võiks lubada õpilastele koos klassiõpetajaga veeta aega nutivahetunnis. Samas on meil nii palju tunde nutitehnika ja projektoriga. Parem, kui nende silmad vahetunnis puhkaksid.
Linna kooliarst Aasa Põder pöörab alati tähelepanu, et kool saadaks võimalusel vahetunnis lapsed õue liikuma. Nii sündiski kooliperes mõte, et võiks teha liikuvad digivahetunnid õpilastele. Kuna koolis on tahvelarvutid, siis tehnikaga probleemi ei olnud. Nii prooviski siis kool 11. septembril uut viisi sisustamaks vahetundi. Lapsed olid jagatud meeskondadeks, kuhu kuulusid nii tüdrukud kui poisid. Tahvelarvutitele oli paigaldatud rakendusi, mis kasutavad GPS-navigeerimist. Kooli õues ootasid lapsi põnevad ülesanded. Tahvelarvutis tuli uus küsimus lahti alles siis, kui meeskond õige asukoha leidis
„Me pidime tegema meeskonna selfisid, lahendama matemaatikaülesanded, ära arvama, mitu jalga on ämblikul,“ kommenteeris õnnelik osalenu Elizaveta Krivonkina.
„Mäng meeldis väga. Mängu tuleb teha ka õpetajatele, aga neile tuleb anda lisaaega. Mina tahan oma tundides GPS-võimalusi kasutada. Mõtted juba liiguvad,“ nentis mängus osalenud 4.b klassi juhtaja Nella Riit.
Kui liikuvat digivahetundi planeerisime, siis olime natuke mures: mis siis, kui tahvelarvuti maha kukub? Kas kõik taipavad õue jope selga panna ja jalatsid vahetada? Aga kuna mäng tundus põnev, võeti see kõigest hoolimata ette.
Koolielus alguskuu artikli Loquizist lugesin, siis teadsin, et soovitatud keskkond kindlasti ületab kõik meie ootusi. Kokkuvõtteks võib öelda, et kõigil oli põnev. Esmaspäeval proovime uut mängu!
Oktoobris on oodata Valga Priimetsa Kooli ja Valga Põhikooli ühiseid üritusi loodusnädala raames. Ka seal on kindlasti plaanis kasutada maastikumängu ideed.
https://koolielu.ee/info/readnews/465345/valga-koolis-toimuvad-aktiivse-liikumisega-digivahetunnid
Samal teemal:
http://koolielu.ee/info/readnews/417363/nutiseadme-liigkasutus-soltub-motteviisist
http://koolielu.ee/info/readnews/410853/valga-vene-gumnaasium-roomustab-digiklassi-voimaluste-ule
https://koolielu.ee/info/readnews/465345/valga-koolis-toimuvad-aktiivse-liikumisega-digivahetunnid
6 September 2016 10:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
//Paljudel koolidel tegevused selged.. iseasi kui tihti.. aga nu teeme alustuseks juba seda mis toimib//
Neljapäev oli pühendatud liikumisele. Tallinna ülikooli tudeng Rain Annuste rääkis õpilastele teemal „Liikumine“. Liikumises peitub tervis, noor, kes piisavalt liigub, on tervem, tugevam ja rõõmsam. Ta kutsus õpilasi arvuti tagant tõusma ja õue minema. Õues on palju põnevat avastada ja kogeda. Annuste näitas piltei oma avastustest ja vallutustest, mis kõik olid seotud aktiivse liikumisega.
Tervisenädal algas Pärnu haigla veretalituse spetsialist Rahel Reimali loenguga „Terve doonor = terve patsient“. Õpiti tundma vere koostisosasid ja doonorluse üldpõhimõtteid.
Teine loeng sel päeval oli „Tervislik toitumine ja eluviis“, toitumisalast tarkust jagas Pärnu haigla toitumisnõustaja Guzel Karhu
Teisipäeval oli õpilaste ees Pärnu haigla psühholoog Helar Peterson loenguga “Eneseväärtustamine“. Väga oskuslikult kasutas psühholoog teema lasteni viimiseks lastele tuttavaid muinasjututegelasi Karupoeg Puhhi raamatust.
Kolmapäeval räägiti suitsetamise kahjulikkusest. Loengu andis Pärnu haigla kopsukabineti õde Anu Hobustkoppel ja teema oli „Suitsetamise tegelikkus ja müüdid“
Nädala jooksul tuli kogu klassiga meeldivalt ja tervislikult aega veeta. Iga klass läbis koolipäeva lõpus üheskoos värskes õhus 2016 sammu vabalt valitud suunas.
Tervisenädalale pani reedel punkti politsei- ja piirivalveameti Lääne prefektuuri prefekt Kaido Kõplase loeng “Narkomaania”. Väga huvitav ja asjalik esitlus ning põnev pildi- ja videomaterjal igapäevaelust. Õpilased said teadmisi narkootikumide mõjust inimese tervisele ja uimastite tarvitamise rasketest tüsistustest. // (muidugi selles osas ka.. räägitakse tihti ei tea mida... kuid kogu ürituse plaan kõlab väga asjalikult)
Kogu tervisenädala vältel toimusid algklasside õpilastele õuevahetunnid. Õpilasesinduse õpilased sisustasid need aktiivset liikumist nõudvate tegevustega. Järgmisse tundi mindi rõõmsa meele ja punaste põskedega.
Täname häid koostööpartnereid Pärnu haiglat ja politsei- ja piirivalveameti Läänemaa prefektuuri.
http://vanalinn.parnu.ee/wp/vanalinna-kooli-tervisenadal-kosutas-keha-ja-meelt/
Neljapäev oli pühendatud liikumisele. Tallinna ülikooli tudeng Rain Annuste rääkis õpilastele teemal „Liikumine“. Liikumises peitub tervis, noor, kes piisavalt liigub, on tervem, tugevam ja rõõmsam. Ta kutsus õpilasi arvuti tagant tõusma ja õue minema. Õues on palju põnevat avastada ja kogeda. Annuste näitas piltei oma avastustest ja vallutustest, mis kõik olid seotud aktiivse liikumisega.
Tervisenädal algas Pärnu haigla veretalituse spetsialist Rahel Reimali loenguga „Terve doonor = terve patsient“. Õpiti tundma vere koostisosasid ja doonorluse üldpõhimõtteid.
Teine loeng sel päeval oli „Tervislik toitumine ja eluviis“, toitumisalast tarkust jagas Pärnu haigla toitumisnõustaja Guzel Karhu
Teisipäeval oli õpilaste ees Pärnu haigla psühholoog Helar Peterson loenguga “Eneseväärtustamine“. Väga oskuslikult kasutas psühholoog teema lasteni viimiseks lastele tuttavaid muinasjututegelasi Karupoeg Puhhi raamatust.
Kolmapäeval räägiti suitsetamise kahjulikkusest. Loengu andis Pärnu haigla kopsukabineti õde Anu Hobustkoppel ja teema oli „Suitsetamise tegelikkus ja müüdid“
Nädala jooksul tuli kogu klassiga meeldivalt ja tervislikult aega veeta. Iga klass läbis koolipäeva lõpus üheskoos värskes õhus 2016 sammu vabalt valitud suunas.
Tervisenädalale pani reedel punkti politsei- ja piirivalveameti Lääne prefektuuri prefekt Kaido Kõplase loeng “Narkomaania”. Väga huvitav ja asjalik esitlus ning põnev pildi- ja videomaterjal igapäevaelust. Õpilased said teadmisi narkootikumide mõjust inimese tervisele ja uimastite tarvitamise rasketest tüsistustest. // (muidugi selles osas ka.. räägitakse tihti ei tea mida... kuid kogu ürituse plaan kõlab väga asjalikult)
Kogu tervisenädala vältel toimusid algklasside õpilastele õuevahetunnid. Õpilasesinduse õpilased sisustasid need aktiivset liikumist nõudvate tegevustega. Järgmisse tundi mindi rõõmsa meele ja punaste põskedega.
Täname häid koostööpartnereid Pärnu haiglat ja politsei- ja piirivalveameti Läänemaa prefektuuri.
http://vanalinn.parnu.ee/wp/vanalinna-kooli-tervisenadal-kosutas-keha-ja-meelt/
http://vanalinn.parnu.ee/wp/vanalinna-kooli-tervisenadal-kosutas-keha-ja-meelt/
6 September 2016 10:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ma üldse ei seedi selliseid pealkirjasi, kus pannakse vastandlik hypotees "kas nõrk või tugev" ... nu mida sa jutustad sellel teemal, kui ise kindlalt selgeks pole sanaud, ja kui oled, siis sellest noodist peakski alustama, mitte tilbendama inimteadvustega, arvates, et nad nii ühte kui teisipidi mõtlevad ja siis neid "kokku tooma" minig lahendusega.. ikka kohe korgeim tõde alustuseks ja siis edasi miks ja kuidas
6 September 2016 10:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
TerVE konverents „Kuidas teadus TerVEt rahvast teenib?“
Liikumisuuringud – kas õlekõrs või päästerõngas?
Merike Kull
Tartu Ülikooli kehakultuuriteaduskond liikumisharrastuse käitumuslik probleemlabor
Kehaline kasvatus/aktiivsus koolis?
•Kehaline kasvatus venitab päeva pikaks, väsitab lapsed ära, ajab higistama, raiskab aega, seda saaks kulutada mõistlikult...
•Ülevaateuuringute tõendus (Lees et al., 2013; Verburgh et al., 2013):
•KA toetab vaimset töövõimet ning kognitiivseid funktsioone lastel ja noortel.
•Suureneb neurogenees, hippokampuse maht, angiogenees, aju plastilisus.
•Paraneb: tähelepanu, mälu, ülesannete lahendamine.
http://www.etag.ee/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Merike-Kull_Liikumisuuringud-%E2%80%93-kas-%C3%B5lek%C3%B5rs-v%C3%B5i-p%C3%A4%C3%A4ster%C3%B5ngas_TerVE.pdf
https://sisu.ut.ee/sites/default/files/liikumislabor/files/infoseminar_uhine_slaidistik_final.pdf
www.calgaryscienceschool.com
Liikumisuuringud – kas õlekõrs või päästerõngas?
Merike Kull
Tartu Ülikooli kehakultuuriteaduskond liikumisharrastuse käitumuslik probleemlabor
Kehaline kasvatus/aktiivsus koolis?
•Kehaline kasvatus venitab päeva pikaks, väsitab lapsed ära, ajab higistama, raiskab aega, seda saaks kulutada mõistlikult...
•Ülevaateuuringute tõendus (Lees et al., 2013; Verburgh et al., 2013):
•KA toetab vaimset töövõimet ning kognitiivseid funktsioone lastel ja noortel.
•Suureneb neurogenees, hippokampuse maht, angiogenees, aju plastilisus.
•Paraneb: tähelepanu, mälu, ülesannete lahendamine.
http://www.etag.ee/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Merike-Kull_Liikumisuuringud-%E2%80%93-kas-%C3%B5lek%C3%B5rs-v%C3%B5i-p%C3%A4%C3%A4ster%C3%B5ngas_TerVE.pdf
https://sisu.ut.ee/sites/default/files/liikumislabor/files/infoseminar_uhine_slaidistik_final.pdf
www.calgaryscienceschool.com
6 September 2016 10:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(kuid ikka aktiivsemad kui eestlased..)
Soome eraldab õpilaste füüsiliseks aktiivsuseks 21 miljonit
"Haridus- ja kultuuriminister Sanni Grahn-Laaksonen tunnistas, et ta on mures Soome koolilaste vähese füüsilise aktiivsuse pärast, teatab YLE. Eriti problemaatiline on olukord vanemate klasside õpilaste seas.
Näiteks 5. klassides liigub iga päev vajalikul määral 30 protsenti Soome lastest, 7. klassides 20 protsenti ja 9. klassi õpilastest on füüsiliselt aktiivne vaid iga kümnes.
«Me oleme aastatel 2016-2018 arvestanud 21 miljoni euro suuruse rahastusega, et tekitada iga koolilapse päevakavasse üks tund liikumist,» märkis Grahn-Laaksonen.
Samas rõhutas ta, et eesmärkideni jõudmiseks peavad koolijuhid ja õpetajad algatusega aktiivselt kaasa tulema. 2010. aastal alguse saanud Liikuva Kooli programmi seniste tulemustega on minister rahul – juba praegu osaleb selles 1000 kooli.
Soomes äsja avaldatud uuringu tulemused kinnitavad ka seda, et liikumisharrastus parandab õpilaste tulemusi ka teistest valdkondades. Näiteks saavad füüsiliselt aktiivsemad lapsed paremini hakkama ka õppetöö ja mõttetööd nõudvate harrastustega."
http://tervis.postimees.ee/v2/3323237/soome-eraldab-opilaste-fueuesiliseks-aktiivsuseks-21-miljonit
Soome eraldab õpilaste füüsiliseks aktiivsuseks 21 miljonit
"Haridus- ja kultuuriminister Sanni Grahn-Laaksonen tunnistas, et ta on mures Soome koolilaste vähese füüsilise aktiivsuse pärast, teatab YLE. Eriti problemaatiline on olukord vanemate klasside õpilaste seas.
Näiteks 5. klassides liigub iga päev vajalikul määral 30 protsenti Soome lastest, 7. klassides 20 protsenti ja 9. klassi õpilastest on füüsiliselt aktiivne vaid iga kümnes.
«Me oleme aastatel 2016-2018 arvestanud 21 miljoni euro suuruse rahastusega, et tekitada iga koolilapse päevakavasse üks tund liikumist,» märkis Grahn-Laaksonen.
Samas rõhutas ta, et eesmärkideni jõudmiseks peavad koolijuhid ja õpetajad algatusega aktiivselt kaasa tulema. 2010. aastal alguse saanud Liikuva Kooli programmi seniste tulemustega on minister rahul – juba praegu osaleb selles 1000 kooli.
Soomes äsja avaldatud uuringu tulemused kinnitavad ka seda, et liikumisharrastus parandab õpilaste tulemusi ka teistest valdkondades. Näiteks saavad füüsiliselt aktiivsemad lapsed paremini hakkama ka õppetöö ja mõttetööd nõudvate harrastustega."
http://tervis.postimees.ee/v2/3323237/soome-eraldab-opilaste-fueuesiliseks-aktiivsuseks-21-miljonit
http://tervis.postimees.ee/v2/3323237/soome-eraldab-opilaste-fueuesiliseks-aktiivsuseks-21-miljonit
6 September 2016 10:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Viimaste uuringute järgi liigub vähem kui viiendik Eesti lapsi nii palju, kui maailma terviseorganisatsioon soovitab. Tartu Ülikoolis Mihkel Leesi poolt koostatud magistritöö pakub võimalusi, kuidas koolid saaksid lapsed liikuma.
Viimastest uuringutest joonistub välja murettekitav pilt: vähem kui viiendik Eesti lapsi liigub nii palju, kui on maailma terviseorganisatsiooni soovituslik norm (vähemalt tund päevas). 2015. aastal korraldatud kehalise aktiivsuse uuringus vastas 11–15-aastastest koolilastest ainult 16,4%, et nad liiguvad iga päev vähemalt tund aega
Miks meie õpilased vaikselt konutavad? Mihkel Lees uuris magistritöös, kui palju liiguvad lapsed koolis. Selgus, et vähem liikuda pole tingimata õpilaste endi valik. Lees avastas, et õpilased liiguksid meeleldi rohkem, aga ei saa. Eelkõige takistab liikumist koolikeskkond ja organisatsioonipoliitika: paljudes koolides on keelatud vahetunnis joosta. Takistus ei ole ruumipuudus, koolide reeglid lihtsalt keelavad koolimajas mürgeldada.
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/eesti/koolid-keelavad-lastel-vahetundides-murada?id=74908339
Viimastest uuringutest joonistub välja murettekitav pilt: vähem kui viiendik Eesti lapsi liigub nii palju, kui on maailma terviseorganisatsiooni soovituslik norm (vähemalt tund päevas). 2015. aastal korraldatud kehalise aktiivsuse uuringus vastas 11–15-aastastest koolilastest ainult 16,4%, et nad liiguvad iga päev vähemalt tund aega
Miks meie õpilased vaikselt konutavad? Mihkel Lees uuris magistritöös, kui palju liiguvad lapsed koolis. Selgus, et vähem liikuda pole tingimata õpilaste endi valik. Lees avastas, et õpilased liiguksid meeleldi rohkem, aga ei saa. Eelkõige takistab liikumist koolikeskkond ja organisatsioonipoliitika: paljudes koolides on keelatud vahetunnis joosta. Takistus ei ole ruumipuudus, koolide reeglid lihtsalt keelavad koolimajas mürgeldada.
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/eesti/koolid-keelavad-lastel-vahetundides-murada?id=74908339
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/eesti/koolid-keelavad-lastel-vahetundides-murada?id=74908339
6 September 2016 10:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
LIIKUMINE : Liikumine – teooria http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat/liikumine-teooria
Liikumise aktiivtööd http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat/liikumine-aktiivtood
TOITUMINE : Toitumine – teooria http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat/toitumine-teooria
Toitumise aktiivtööd http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat/toitumine-aktiivtood
Liikumise aktiivtööd http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat/liikumine-aktiivtood
TOITUMINE : Toitumine – teooria http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat/toitumine-teooria
Toitumise aktiivtööd http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat/toitumine-aktiivtood
http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat/liikumine-teooria
6 September 2016 10:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Õppeprotsessi kujundamisel, aktiivtööde valikutel ja kasutamisel soovitame tugineda järgmistele põhimõtetele:
Iga laps on isikusus. Õpetaja roll on märgata ja toetada õpilaste individuaalseid vajadusi.
Kool peab võimaldama mitmekülgset arengut arvesse võtva keskkonna, milles kujuneks vaimselt ja füüsiliselt terve inimene.
Õppimine põhineb õpilase ja õpetaja vahelisel kontaktil ning vastastikuse rikastamise põhimõttel. Õpetajat eristavad õppijast enamad kogemused ning teadmisteterviku ja suuremate sihtide tunnetamine.
Näiliselt tühistest sammudest või valmisolekutest saavad alguse suured muutused. Ärge seadke enda tundides alati väga suuri eesmärke. Elu oma mitmekesisuses on suurepärane õpetaja – keskenduge kasvatuslikele sihtidele ja olge tarkade valikutega õpilastele heaks eeskujuks.
Selgitage ja lihtsustage infoallikate teadmised õpilastele arusaadavasse vormi. Suunake õppetegevus teadlikult õpilasekeskseks, milles oleks kohta uue avastamiseks ja omas tempos arusaamiste loomiseks.
Õpilastega kontakti loomisele mõjub motiveerivalt kujundav hindamine, mis peab põhinema vastastikusel tagasidel ja õppeprotsessi analüüsil.
Aktiivtöödes oleme teadlikult jätnud välja juhised hindamiseks. Seda eelkõige sellepärast, et õpetajal tekiks õppeprotsessi tagasisidestamisel õpilasega isiklik lähenemine ning ei võetaks aluseks anonüümseid norme ja ettekirjutusi. Pigem soovitame teil lähtuda järgnevast:
Tagasiside sisaldagu pigem kirjeldusi ja vähem hinnanguid. Keskenduge selles olukorras õppija konkreetsele käitumisele mitte isiksuse omadustele.
Eelistage tagasiside andmiseks isiklikku lähenemist, kas kirjalikku või suulist. Ärge liialdage info kogusega.
Teismeliseeas tekib oht kaaslaste ees kuuldud kommentaare valesti tõlgendada. Õpiprotsessi kirjeldamisel lähtuge probleemide jm olukordade lahendamisest mitte kohtumõistmisest.
Tagasiside ei tohi kahjustada õpilast ega pärssida tema õpimotivatsiooni. Alustage ja lõpetage alati positiivsega. Innustage ning toetage õppijaid nende isiklikus arengus.
Võimaldage õpilasel enda õppimist, teadmisi, õpikeskkonda ja enda tööpanust analüüsida. See loob usaldusliku suhte ja toetab adekvaatset enesehinnangut.
Hinne on pigem õppimisolukorra ja -seisundi juhis, mitte õppija „sildistusvahend".
Eraldi soovitame õppetöö ettevalmistamisel pöörata õpetajate tähelepanu toitumise ja liikumise teemade käsitlemisel allikakriitilise lähenemise vajalikkusele. Tänasel info- ja internetiajastul on igaühel võimalik ükskõik millist infot avaldada ning selle kasutamisel on oluline eelnevalt kriitiliselt hinnata sisu tõenduspõhisust ja usaldusväärsust.
Kõik õpetajaraamatu valmimisse panustajad loodavad, et materjal toetab kaasaja koolile olulist õpetajatevahelist koostööd. Lisaks on raamat õpetajatele oluliseks abivahendiks aitamaks õpilastel saada tervikpilti toitumise ja liikumise põhitõdedest ning andmaks oskusi teha tervist toetavaid valikuid.
Õpetajaraamatu täisteksti saad alla laadida siit (http://www.terviseinfo.ee/truekised?filter_year=0&filter_pubid=0&filter_languageid=0&filter=Toitumine+ja+liikumine.+I%E2%80%93III+kooliaste.+%C3%95petajaraamat&limit=5&filter_order=p.publish_year&filter_order_Dir=DESC). Teemade ja aktiivtööde kaupa saad juhendmaterjali alla laadida alljärgnevaltelt linkidelt:
TOITUMINE
Toitumine – teooria http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat/toitumine-teooria
Toitumise aktiivtööd http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat/toitumine-aktiivtood
LIIKUMINE
Liikumine – teooria http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat/liikumine-teooria
Liikumise aktiivtööd http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat/liikumine-aktiivtood
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Iga laps on isikusus. Õpetaja roll on märgata ja toetada õpilaste individuaalseid vajadusi.
Kool peab võimaldama mitmekülgset arengut arvesse võtva keskkonna, milles kujuneks vaimselt ja füüsiliselt terve inimene.
Õppimine põhineb õpilase ja õpetaja vahelisel kontaktil ning vastastikuse rikastamise põhimõttel. Õpetajat eristavad õppijast enamad kogemused ning teadmisteterviku ja suuremate sihtide tunnetamine.
Näiliselt tühistest sammudest või valmisolekutest saavad alguse suured muutused. Ärge seadke enda tundides alati väga suuri eesmärke. Elu oma mitmekesisuses on suurepärane õpetaja – keskenduge kasvatuslikele sihtidele ja olge tarkade valikutega õpilastele heaks eeskujuks.
Selgitage ja lihtsustage infoallikate teadmised õpilastele arusaadavasse vormi. Suunake õppetegevus teadlikult õpilasekeskseks, milles oleks kohta uue avastamiseks ja omas tempos arusaamiste loomiseks.
Õpilastega kontakti loomisele mõjub motiveerivalt kujundav hindamine, mis peab põhinema vastastikusel tagasidel ja õppeprotsessi analüüsil.
Aktiivtöödes oleme teadlikult jätnud välja juhised hindamiseks. Seda eelkõige sellepärast, et õpetajal tekiks õppeprotsessi tagasisidestamisel õpilasega isiklik lähenemine ning ei võetaks aluseks anonüümseid norme ja ettekirjutusi. Pigem soovitame teil lähtuda järgnevast:
Tagasiside sisaldagu pigem kirjeldusi ja vähem hinnanguid. Keskenduge selles olukorras õppija konkreetsele käitumisele mitte isiksuse omadustele.
Eelistage tagasiside andmiseks isiklikku lähenemist, kas kirjalikku või suulist. Ärge liialdage info kogusega.
Teismeliseeas tekib oht kaaslaste ees kuuldud kommentaare valesti tõlgendada. Õpiprotsessi kirjeldamisel lähtuge probleemide jm olukordade lahendamisest mitte kohtumõistmisest.
Tagasiside ei tohi kahjustada õpilast ega pärssida tema õpimotivatsiooni. Alustage ja lõpetage alati positiivsega. Innustage ning toetage õppijaid nende isiklikus arengus.
Võimaldage õpilasel enda õppimist, teadmisi, õpikeskkonda ja enda tööpanust analüüsida. See loob usaldusliku suhte ja toetab adekvaatset enesehinnangut.
Hinne on pigem õppimisolukorra ja -seisundi juhis, mitte õppija „sildistusvahend".
Eraldi soovitame õppetöö ettevalmistamisel pöörata õpetajate tähelepanu toitumise ja liikumise teemade käsitlemisel allikakriitilise lähenemise vajalikkusele. Tänasel info- ja internetiajastul on igaühel võimalik ükskõik millist infot avaldada ning selle kasutamisel on oluline eelnevalt kriitiliselt hinnata sisu tõenduspõhisust ja usaldusväärsust.
Kõik õpetajaraamatu valmimisse panustajad loodavad, et materjal toetab kaasaja koolile olulist õpetajatevahelist koostööd. Lisaks on raamat õpetajatele oluliseks abivahendiks aitamaks õpilastel saada tervikpilti toitumise ja liikumise põhitõdedest ning andmaks oskusi teha tervist toetavaid valikuid.
Õpetajaraamatu täisteksti saad alla laadida siit (http://www.terviseinfo.ee/truekised?filter_year=0&filter_pubid=0&filter_languageid=0&filter=Toitumine+ja+liikumine.+I%E2%80%93III+kooliaste.+%C3%95petajaraamat&limit=5&filter_order=p.publish_year&filter_order_Dir=DESC). Teemade ja aktiivtööde kaupa saad juhendmaterjali alla laadida alljärgnevaltelt linkidelt:
TOITUMINE
Toitumine – teooria http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat/toitumine-teooria
Toitumise aktiivtööd http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat/toitumine-aktiivtood
LIIKUMINE
Liikumine – teooria http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat/liikumine-teooria
Liikumise aktiivtööd http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat/liikumine-aktiivtood
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http://www.terviseinfo.ee/truekised?filter_year=0&filter_pubid=0&filter_languageid=0&filter=Toitumine+ja+liikumine.+I%E2%80%93III+kooliaste.+%C3%95petajaraamat&limit=5&filter_order=p.publish_year&filter_order_Dir=DESC
6 September 2016 10:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Õppeprotsessi kujundamisel, aktiivtööde valikutel ja kasutamisel soovitame tugineda järgmistele põhimõtetele"
(palju mud kasulike linke sellel lehel, profimad)
Õpetajaraamat on mõeldud kasutamiseks I–III kooliastmes tunde andvatele erinevatele õpetajatele – peamiselt inimeseõpetuse, kehalise kasvatuse, loodusõpetuse, bioloogia, käsitöö ja kodunduse õpetajatele, kuid lähtuvalt konkreetsest teemast ka teistele (eesti keel, matemaatika jne) õpetajatele.
Õpetajaraamatu väljatöötamisel olid olulisteks põhimõteteks lõimimine erinevate õppeainete vahel, tõenduspõhisus ja praktilisus.
Lõimimise all pidasime silmas, et õpilaste toitumis- ja liikumisharjumuste kujundamine peab toimuma läbi erinevate õppeainete terviklikult ja sidusalt, võttes arvesse ainespetsiifikat. Info asjatu kordamise vältimiseks erinevates õppeainetes on oluline aineõpetajate omavaheline koostöö iga-aastaste töökavade koostamisel ja elluviimisel.
http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat
(palju mud kasulike linke sellel lehel, profimad)
Õpetajaraamat on mõeldud kasutamiseks I–III kooliastmes tunde andvatele erinevatele õpetajatele – peamiselt inimeseõpetuse, kehalise kasvatuse, loodusõpetuse, bioloogia, käsitöö ja kodunduse õpetajatele, kuid lähtuvalt konkreetsest teemast ka teistele (eesti keel, matemaatika jne) õpetajatele.
Õpetajaraamatu väljatöötamisel olid olulisteks põhimõteteks lõimimine erinevate õppeainete vahel, tõenduspõhisus ja praktilisus.
Lõimimise all pidasime silmas, et õpilaste toitumis- ja liikumisharjumuste kujundamine peab toimuma läbi erinevate õppeainete terviklikult ja sidusalt, võttes arvesse ainespetsiifikat. Info asjatu kordamise vältimiseks erinevates õppeainetes on oluline aineõpetajate omavaheline koostöö iga-aastaste töökavade koostamisel ja elluviimisel.
http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat
http://www.terviseinfo.ee/et/tervise-edendamine/koolis/olulised-abimaterjalid/toitumine-ja-liikumine/opetajaraamat
6 September 2016 10:49
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
nu eks need kommunistid eri koolides eri projekte korraldasid. Ma neljas erinevas koolis käinud, kahes suures ja kahes väikeses, ei mäleta liikuma suunamist, kuigi Lelle kool vist vähemasti ei keelanud jooksmist
6 September 2016 10:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.eoy.ee/ranne
Lindude ränne aktiivse kaardi peal, väga tuus kaart, laiendab Su maailmapilti koheselt, kui motlema hakkad.. kui palju me hoolime kus ja kes talveks lendavad.. lihtsalt oleme uhked et nad siin.. aga kes neile kodusoojust pakub mujal, kas hoolime mis sääl toimub?
Lindude ränne aktiivse kaardi peal, väga tuus kaart, laiendab Su maailmapilti koheselt, kui motlema hakkad.. kui palju me hoolime kus ja kes talveks lendavad.. lihtsalt oleme uhked et nad siin.. aga kes neile kodusoojust pakub mujal, kas hoolime mis sääl toimub?
http://www.eoy.ee/ranne
6 September 2016 06:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tänapäev :
Saateks
Kirjutan neid ridu aprilliööl vanas majas Emajõe kaldal. See öö pidi kuluma kakuhäälte tabamiseks, ent hämarus saabus koos vihmaga. Põhjuse, miks kakuretkest oli mõistlik loobuda, leiate kahe aasta taguse Hirundo veergudelt. Alljärgnevas aga tahan jagada oma mõtteid selle kohta, miks ornitoloogiaühingu ajakiri on just niisugune nagu ta on.
Kentsakas, ent hoolimata peaaegu viieteistkümneaastasest ilmumisloost ei meenu mulle, et keegi Hirundo tegijaist oleks sõnastanud ajakirja eesmärki – valitsusvälise organisatsiooni häälekandjal peaks seesugune laiem eesmärk ju kindlasti olema. Küllap ongi, ning minu tõlgendus, mille taustaks üle viie aasta ajakirja toimetamist, kõlab nii: Hirundo eesmärk on hoida puhtana meie teadmiste lätted Eesti lindude käekäigu kohta. Too käekäik on ju ühest küljest lõputult põnev, kuid teisalt koputab üha enam ka maailma muutva sulgedeta looma südametunnistusele. Hirundo peaks olema uudishimuliku ja hooliva linnusõbra abiline, edasipüüdliku eeskuju ning popularisaatori “tark mees taskus”.
Ei maksa arvata, justnagu poleks toimetus arutlenud võimaluste üle muuta ajakirja ajaviitelisemaks ja populaarsemaks. Põhjus, miks Hirundo jätkab algset joont, näib peituvat eelkõige väljaandja kõhnavõitu rahakotis ning sellega kaasnevalt väikeses ilmumismahus ja tagasihoidlikes tehnilistes võimalustes. Neis oludes pole mõistlik võistelda Eesti ajakirjandusturu kaunite värvitrükis looduseajakirjadega, liiatigi kuna EOÜ nende väljaandmises nüüd lausa õiguslikult osaleb.
Et teadmiste lätteid Eesti linnuasjanduse kohta puhtana hoida, on Hirundo tegijad püüdnud järgida eelkõige kolme reeglit: ajakiri peab kajastama olulist, olema usaldatav ning ilmuma eesti keeles.
Vaevalt suudab keegi eksimatult hinnata, millised muutused meie linnustikus, sündmused ühingu tegevuses ja laiemaltki on pikas perspektiivis olulised. Tuleb teha valik, mida raiuda raamatusse, ning mis võiks jääda pigem arhiividesse, inimeste mälusse ja hinge. Kas see valik on seni olnud hea, seda hinnatakse kunagi palju hiljem, ent kellele ei meeldiks anda välja ajakirja, mida on põhjust ikka ja jälle lehitseda. Niisiis – kes soovib saada aimu selle põhimõtte teostumisest, võiks näiteks uurida, kas ja kui palju on käesoleva numbri autorid viidanud Hirundos varem ilmunule. Hiljutine pisiuuring Hirundo viidatavuse kohta näitaski viimaste aastate suurt tõusulainet, mille pritsmed on nüüdseks jõudnud ka rahvusvaheliste teadusajakirjade artiklitesse.
Usaldatavuse, st. teadmiste lätte puhtuse püüd määrab suuresti Hirundo vormi. Kahjuks ei piisa lahedast jutust, et mõjuda veenvalt neile, kellel on vaja tõde ning kelle tööd ja arusaamu see tõde mõjutama hakkab. Nendeks tõeotsijateks on näiteks looduskaitseametnikud ja “rohelised”, õpetajad ja elukutselised linnu-uurijad. Usaldatavuse tasu on usaldus. Olen tundnud suurt rõõmu, kui Hirundos avaldatu peale taltub linnukaitsjaid naiivseteks lasteks pidav ametnik või ärimees ning looduses jääb sündimata korvamatu hävitustöö. Nii et Hirundo numbritabelid, viited ja kirjanduse nimestikud, vonklevate joontega graafikud ning salapärased “statistilised testid” ei ole mitte lugejate kiusuks rajale pillutatud kivirüngad, vaid toetuspunktid nendele, kes teadmiste mäestikes turnides elu ja tervist tahavad hoida. Toimetuse asi on olnud vaadata, et eesmärk ja vahend segamini ei läheks ning artiklite loetavus ja turvalisus tasakaalus püsiksid.
Eesti keele oskajaid ei ole maailmas palju ning märgid näitavad, et neid jääb aina vähemaks. Naljaga pooleks võib väita, et Hirundo on maailma juhtiv eestikeelne ornitoloogiaajakiri, ja küllap on sellel oma tähendus ka keele ja kultuuri säilimise jaoks. Eestikeelseid oskussõnu, lindude ja nende vaatlemise-uurimisega seotud väljendeid ei soosi globaliseeruv tippteadus, kuid ometi on see samasugune pooljuhuslikult sündinud rikkus nagu ellujäämisraskustes vaevlev suur-konnakotkas või lindude massränne Lääne-Eesti märgaladel.
Eesti linde puudutavate teadmiste lätted saavad alguse lageda taeva all, kus vaatluspäevikutesse ilmuvad esimesed märkmed, siis küsimused ja lõpuks vastused. Me kõik saame midagi teha selleks, et need lätted ei kuivaks.
Asko Lõhmus
Hirundo toimetaja 1997-2002
EOÜ nõukogu liige
Saateks
Kirjutan neid ridu aprilliööl vanas majas Emajõe kaldal. See öö pidi kuluma kakuhäälte tabamiseks, ent hämarus saabus koos vihmaga. Põhjuse, miks kakuretkest oli mõistlik loobuda, leiate kahe aasta taguse Hirundo veergudelt. Alljärgnevas aga tahan jagada oma mõtteid selle kohta, miks ornitoloogiaühingu ajakiri on just niisugune nagu ta on.
Kentsakas, ent hoolimata peaaegu viieteistkümneaastasest ilmumisloost ei meenu mulle, et keegi Hirundo tegijaist oleks sõnastanud ajakirja eesmärki – valitsusvälise organisatsiooni häälekandjal peaks seesugune laiem eesmärk ju kindlasti olema. Küllap ongi, ning minu tõlgendus, mille taustaks üle viie aasta ajakirja toimetamist, kõlab nii: Hirundo eesmärk on hoida puhtana meie teadmiste lätted Eesti lindude käekäigu kohta. Too käekäik on ju ühest küljest lõputult põnev, kuid teisalt koputab üha enam ka maailma muutva sulgedeta looma südametunnistusele. Hirundo peaks olema uudishimuliku ja hooliva linnusõbra abiline, edasipüüdliku eeskuju ning popularisaatori “tark mees taskus”.
Ei maksa arvata, justnagu poleks toimetus arutlenud võimaluste üle muuta ajakirja ajaviitelisemaks ja populaarsemaks. Põhjus, miks Hirundo jätkab algset joont, näib peituvat eelkõige väljaandja kõhnavõitu rahakotis ning sellega kaasnevalt väikeses ilmumismahus ja tagasihoidlikes tehnilistes võimalustes. Neis oludes pole mõistlik võistelda Eesti ajakirjandusturu kaunite värvitrükis looduseajakirjadega, liiatigi kuna EOÜ nende väljaandmises nüüd lausa õiguslikult osaleb.
Et teadmiste lätteid Eesti linnuasjanduse kohta puhtana hoida, on Hirundo tegijad püüdnud järgida eelkõige kolme reeglit: ajakiri peab kajastama olulist, olema usaldatav ning ilmuma eesti keeles.
Vaevalt suudab keegi eksimatult hinnata, millised muutused meie linnustikus, sündmused ühingu tegevuses ja laiemaltki on pikas perspektiivis olulised. Tuleb teha valik, mida raiuda raamatusse, ning mis võiks jääda pigem arhiividesse, inimeste mälusse ja hinge. Kas see valik on seni olnud hea, seda hinnatakse kunagi palju hiljem, ent kellele ei meeldiks anda välja ajakirja, mida on põhjust ikka ja jälle lehitseda. Niisiis – kes soovib saada aimu selle põhimõtte teostumisest, võiks näiteks uurida, kas ja kui palju on käesoleva numbri autorid viidanud Hirundos varem ilmunule. Hiljutine pisiuuring Hirundo viidatavuse kohta näitaski viimaste aastate suurt tõusulainet, mille pritsmed on nüüdseks jõudnud ka rahvusvaheliste teadusajakirjade artiklitesse.
Usaldatavuse, st. teadmiste lätte puhtuse püüd määrab suuresti Hirundo vormi. Kahjuks ei piisa lahedast jutust, et mõjuda veenvalt neile, kellel on vaja tõde ning kelle tööd ja arusaamu see tõde mõjutama hakkab. Nendeks tõeotsijateks on näiteks looduskaitseametnikud ja “rohelised”, õpetajad ja elukutselised linnu-uurijad. Usaldatavuse tasu on usaldus. Olen tundnud suurt rõõmu, kui Hirundos avaldatu peale taltub linnukaitsjaid naiivseteks lasteks pidav ametnik või ärimees ning looduses jääb sündimata korvamatu hävitustöö. Nii et Hirundo numbritabelid, viited ja kirjanduse nimestikud, vonklevate joontega graafikud ning salapärased “statistilised testid” ei ole mitte lugejate kiusuks rajale pillutatud kivirüngad, vaid toetuspunktid nendele, kes teadmiste mäestikes turnides elu ja tervist tahavad hoida. Toimetuse asi on olnud vaadata, et eesmärk ja vahend segamini ei läheks ning artiklite loetavus ja turvalisus tasakaalus püsiksid.
Eesti keele oskajaid ei ole maailmas palju ning märgid näitavad, et neid jääb aina vähemaks. Naljaga pooleks võib väita, et Hirundo on maailma juhtiv eestikeelne ornitoloogiaajakiri, ja küllap on sellel oma tähendus ka keele ja kultuuri säilimise jaoks. Eestikeelseid oskussõnu, lindude ja nende vaatlemise-uurimisega seotud väljendeid ei soosi globaliseeruv tippteadus, kuid ometi on see samasugune pooljuhuslikult sündinud rikkus nagu ellujäämisraskustes vaevlev suur-konnakotkas või lindude massränne Lääne-Eesti märgaladel.
Eesti linde puudutavate teadmiste lätted saavad alguse lageda taeva all, kus vaatluspäevikutesse ilmuvad esimesed märkmed, siis küsimused ja lõpuks vastused. Me kõik saame midagi teha selleks, et need lätted ei kuivaks.
Asko Lõhmus
Hirundo toimetaja 1997-2002
EOÜ nõukogu liige
6 September 2016 06:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eesti Ornitoloogiaühingu häälekandjal Hirundol on seljataga kümme aastat ilmumist.
Minu ees laual seisab keskmise paksusega pakk, milles on ajakirja 21 üksiknumbrit. Kõige pealmise, 1988. a. märtsinumbri maht on kaheksa lehekülge. Selle saatesõnas ütleb tollane Looduseuurijate Seltsi ornitoloogiasektsiooni esimees Heinrich Veromann: “Käesolevaga ilmuma hakkava sõnumitooja ühiskondlikel tegijail-toimetajail näib jätkuvat haaret ja entusiasmi selle suure töö korrapäraseks läbiviimiseks.” Paki alumise, seni viimasena ilmunud numbri maht on kuuskümmend lehekülge. Näib, et auväärt vanameister ei eksinud.
Hirundode paki sirvimine paljastab muuski väliselt silma torkavat arengut. Esimene number on trükitud kollasele ebakvaliteetsele paberile. Kolmandast numbrist alates tuleb juba mängu kriitpaber. Üheksandast numbrist peale ilmub esikaanele illustratsioon. Kümnendast numbrist võetakse kasutusele tänaseni püsinud sümboolika. Üheteistkümnes saab endale ümber poolkõvad kaaned. 1993. aastast muutub numeratsioon ja algab regulaarne ilmumine kaks korda aastas. Samasugune pisut ebaühtlane, kuid siiski tõusujoones kulgev areng on toimunud ka selles osas, mis jääb kaante vahele. Sisu muutub tasapisi liigendatumaks, vaheldusrikkamaks, tekivad erirubriigid, lehekülgedele ilmuvad linnupildid. Antakse välja lisa- ja erinumbreid.
Kes on kõik need aastad Hirundot teinud?
Ajakirja sünnile panid aluse jutuajamised allakirjutanu ja Eerik Leibaku vahel rahvusliku taasärkamise algusaastal 1987. Aeg Eesti ornitoloogide häälekandja asutamiseks oli küps. Samas oli aeg keeruline, trükiste väljaandmine uskumatult kohmakas ja aeganõudev protsess. Meil polnud päris selget ettekujutust, kuidas asi minema hakkab. Kuid oli idee, ja oli kolleegide-mõttekaaslaste toetus.
Eerik Leibak oligi ajakirja esimene toimetaja aastail 1988-1992. Ta kujundas Hirundo esimese näo, mille soliidsed jooned on tuntavad tänaseni. Toimetuskogu maadles aga samal ajal trükkimiseks vajalike “paberilimiitide”, trükilubade ja raha väljaajamisega tingimustes, kus üks majandussüsteem parajasti kolinaga kokku varises, uus polnud aga jõudnud tekkimagi hakata. Järgmised viis aastat, 1992-1996, nägi märgatavalt tüsenenud Hirundo toimetamise kallal vaeva Jaanus Elts, kes vahepeal EOÜ tegevdirektoriks saanuna võttis enda õlule ka tülikate rahastamisasjade ajamise. Alates 1997. aastast on ajakirja toimetajaks Asko Lõhmus. Iga toimetaja on Hirundosse kaasa toonud midagi omanäolist ja paremat, säilitades samas vana ja hea.
Toimetuskogu liikmeina on Hirundol läbi aegade silma peal hoidnud ning nõu ja jõuga ajakirja arengule kaasa aidanud A. Kuresoo, A. Leito, A. Leivits, E. Lelov, V. Lilleleht, L. Luigujõe, E. Mägi, R. Mänd, V. Paakspuu, K. Peterson, K. Rattiste, H. Veromann ja Ü. Väli.
Ingliskeelsete resümeede tõlkimise eest on hea seisnud Kaja Peterson.
Kuid ühtki ajakirja ei ole ilma autoriteta. Kokku on kümne aasta jooksul Hirundosse oma sõnumeid saatnud 52 erinevat autorit. Nende hulgas on nii professionaale kui ka amatööre. Südantsoojendav on ajakirja sisukordi lehitsedes näha, kuidas “vanade kalade” sekka on aeg-ajalt ilmunud uued nimed, kellest seejärel on saanud aktiivsed kaastöölised. Nii mõnedki Hirundos oma publitseerimistegevust alustanud on juba jõudnud või jõudmas esimeste teaduskraadideni. Kümme sagedamini esinenud nime autorite nimistus: Lemming Rootsmäe (18 artiklit), Jaanus Elts (12), Asko Lõhmus (12), Endel Edula (8), Vilju Lilleleht (7), Eedi Lelov (6), Tenno Laur (6), Eerik Leibak (5), Aivar Leito (5), Jaanus Aua (5). Muidugi ei anna see loetelu erinevate autorite viljakusest täit pilti – siin seas on paraku võrdse kaaluga nii lühisõnumid kui ka tervet üksiknumbrit haaravad monograafiad.
Õiget linnuajakirja ei kujuta hästi ette linnupiltideta. Kaanepiltide autoreist tõuseb vaieldamatult esiplaanile Rein Kuresoo oma kuue filigraanse joonisega. Üldse kokku on linnupilte Hirundole teinud 10 kunstnikku, kellest arvukamalt on esindatud Uku Paali (15), Asko Lõhmuse (12), Aivar Veide (5) ja Jaanus Eltsi (5) tööd.
Ajakirja kümne aasta sisse jääb palju sündmusi, mis on muutnud kogu ühiskonna nägu. Sinna on jäänud ka Eesti Ornitoloogiaühingu taastamine, mille häälekandjaks Hirundo loomulikult sai. Kuid sinna on jäänud ka majandusraskused, poliitilise süsteemi lagunemine, pangakrahhid ja muud ebameeldivat. Kõigi raskuste kiuste on Hirundo jäänud püsima ja edasi arenenud, nagu ornitoloogiaühing isegi.
Usun ja loodan, et järgmise kümne aasta pärast, kui meie ajakiri tähistab oma kahega algavat juubelit, on ta muutunud veel sisukamaks, ilusamaks ja soliidsemaks. Selleks soovin praegusele ja tulevastele toimetajatele, eriti aga kõigile autoritele värskeid ideid ja nobedat “sulejooksu” ning lugejaile palju huvitavaid hetki koos Hirundoga.
Raivo Mänd
Hirundo toimetuskogu esimees aastail 1988-1998
Minu ees laual seisab keskmise paksusega pakk, milles on ajakirja 21 üksiknumbrit. Kõige pealmise, 1988. a. märtsinumbri maht on kaheksa lehekülge. Selle saatesõnas ütleb tollane Looduseuurijate Seltsi ornitoloogiasektsiooni esimees Heinrich Veromann: “Käesolevaga ilmuma hakkava sõnumitooja ühiskondlikel tegijail-toimetajail näib jätkuvat haaret ja entusiasmi selle suure töö korrapäraseks läbiviimiseks.” Paki alumise, seni viimasena ilmunud numbri maht on kuuskümmend lehekülge. Näib, et auväärt vanameister ei eksinud.
Hirundode paki sirvimine paljastab muuski väliselt silma torkavat arengut. Esimene number on trükitud kollasele ebakvaliteetsele paberile. Kolmandast numbrist alates tuleb juba mängu kriitpaber. Üheksandast numbrist peale ilmub esikaanele illustratsioon. Kümnendast numbrist võetakse kasutusele tänaseni püsinud sümboolika. Üheteistkümnes saab endale ümber poolkõvad kaaned. 1993. aastast muutub numeratsioon ja algab regulaarne ilmumine kaks korda aastas. Samasugune pisut ebaühtlane, kuid siiski tõusujoones kulgev areng on toimunud ka selles osas, mis jääb kaante vahele. Sisu muutub tasapisi liigendatumaks, vaheldusrikkamaks, tekivad erirubriigid, lehekülgedele ilmuvad linnupildid. Antakse välja lisa- ja erinumbreid.
Kes on kõik need aastad Hirundot teinud?
Ajakirja sünnile panid aluse jutuajamised allakirjutanu ja Eerik Leibaku vahel rahvusliku taasärkamise algusaastal 1987. Aeg Eesti ornitoloogide häälekandja asutamiseks oli küps. Samas oli aeg keeruline, trükiste väljaandmine uskumatult kohmakas ja aeganõudev protsess. Meil polnud päris selget ettekujutust, kuidas asi minema hakkab. Kuid oli idee, ja oli kolleegide-mõttekaaslaste toetus.
Eerik Leibak oligi ajakirja esimene toimetaja aastail 1988-1992. Ta kujundas Hirundo esimese näo, mille soliidsed jooned on tuntavad tänaseni. Toimetuskogu maadles aga samal ajal trükkimiseks vajalike “paberilimiitide”, trükilubade ja raha väljaajamisega tingimustes, kus üks majandussüsteem parajasti kolinaga kokku varises, uus polnud aga jõudnud tekkimagi hakata. Järgmised viis aastat, 1992-1996, nägi märgatavalt tüsenenud Hirundo toimetamise kallal vaeva Jaanus Elts, kes vahepeal EOÜ tegevdirektoriks saanuna võttis enda õlule ka tülikate rahastamisasjade ajamise. Alates 1997. aastast on ajakirja toimetajaks Asko Lõhmus. Iga toimetaja on Hirundosse kaasa toonud midagi omanäolist ja paremat, säilitades samas vana ja hea.
Toimetuskogu liikmeina on Hirundol läbi aegade silma peal hoidnud ning nõu ja jõuga ajakirja arengule kaasa aidanud A. Kuresoo, A. Leito, A. Leivits, E. Lelov, V. Lilleleht, L. Luigujõe, E. Mägi, R. Mänd, V. Paakspuu, K. Peterson, K. Rattiste, H. Veromann ja Ü. Väli.
Ingliskeelsete resümeede tõlkimise eest on hea seisnud Kaja Peterson.
Kuid ühtki ajakirja ei ole ilma autoriteta. Kokku on kümne aasta jooksul Hirundosse oma sõnumeid saatnud 52 erinevat autorit. Nende hulgas on nii professionaale kui ka amatööre. Südantsoojendav on ajakirja sisukordi lehitsedes näha, kuidas “vanade kalade” sekka on aeg-ajalt ilmunud uued nimed, kellest seejärel on saanud aktiivsed kaastöölised. Nii mõnedki Hirundos oma publitseerimistegevust alustanud on juba jõudnud või jõudmas esimeste teaduskraadideni. Kümme sagedamini esinenud nime autorite nimistus: Lemming Rootsmäe (18 artiklit), Jaanus Elts (12), Asko Lõhmus (12), Endel Edula (8), Vilju Lilleleht (7), Eedi Lelov (6), Tenno Laur (6), Eerik Leibak (5), Aivar Leito (5), Jaanus Aua (5). Muidugi ei anna see loetelu erinevate autorite viljakusest täit pilti – siin seas on paraku võrdse kaaluga nii lühisõnumid kui ka tervet üksiknumbrit haaravad monograafiad.
Õiget linnuajakirja ei kujuta hästi ette linnupiltideta. Kaanepiltide autoreist tõuseb vaieldamatult esiplaanile Rein Kuresoo oma kuue filigraanse joonisega. Üldse kokku on linnupilte Hirundole teinud 10 kunstnikku, kellest arvukamalt on esindatud Uku Paali (15), Asko Lõhmuse (12), Aivar Veide (5) ja Jaanus Eltsi (5) tööd.
Ajakirja kümne aasta sisse jääb palju sündmusi, mis on muutnud kogu ühiskonna nägu. Sinna on jäänud ka Eesti Ornitoloogiaühingu taastamine, mille häälekandjaks Hirundo loomulikult sai. Kuid sinna on jäänud ka majandusraskused, poliitilise süsteemi lagunemine, pangakrahhid ja muud ebameeldivat. Kõigi raskuste kiuste on Hirundo jäänud püsima ja edasi arenenud, nagu ornitoloogiaühing isegi.
Usun ja loodan, et järgmise kümne aasta pärast, kui meie ajakiri tähistab oma kahega algavat juubelit, on ta muutunud veel sisukamaks, ilusamaks ja soliidsemaks. Selleks soovin praegusele ja tulevastele toimetajatele, eriti aga kõigile autoritele värskeid ideid ja nobedat “sulejooksu” ning lugejaile palju huvitavaid hetki koos Hirundoga.
Raivo Mänd
Hirundo toimetuskogu esimees aastail 1988-1998
6 September 2016 06:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Teateid: Tartu, Märts 1988
SAATEKS
Palju aastaid puudus Eesti Loodusuurijate Seltsi ornitoloogiasektsiooni juhatusel võimalus enam-vähem korrapärase info saatmiseks loodusvaatlejatele. Side usaldusmeestega oli põhiliselt ühesuunaline – vaatlejatelt laekus pidevalt mitmesugust andmestikku, sektsiooni juhatuselt aga läks välja üksnes mitmesuguseid juhendeid, vaatluskaustu, üleskutseid. Muidugi ilmus trükist aeg-ajalt mitmesuguseid vaatlejate andmete põhjal koostatud artikleid, kuid need läksid trükistena müügivõrku ja loodusvaatlejad said neid kauplustest vaid juhuslikult osta. Sari “Abiks loodusvaatlejale” ei saa olla operatiivse info vahendajaks, pealegi on see sari kogu seltsi mitte ornitoloogiasektsiooni väljaanne.
Esimeseks katseks luua tagasiside vaatlejatega oli allakirjutanu poolt koostatud ülevaade valge-toonekure loendustest Eestis ajavahemikul 1954-1961 (ringkiri nr. 1), mis trükiti ja saadeti välja 1962.a. Järgmine ülevaade käsitles valge-toonekure loendust 1966.a. (trükiti ja saadeti vaatlejatele välja 1967.a.). 1967.a. alates hakati vaatlejatele saatma korrapäraselt igal aastal veelindude taliloenduste kokkuvõtteid. Kõik need ringkirjad sisaldasid infot ainult ühe teema kohta.
Muutus tuli uute paljundusseadmetega. 1983.a. sai sektsiooni juhatus koostada ja paljundada esimese sisutihedama infolehe nr. 1. Nüüd on neid saanud 10, lisaks veel iga-aastased veelindude taliloenduste kokkuvõtted ning 3 ülevaadet IPA-meetodil toimuvatest linnuloendustest. Oleme aga pidanud kogema, et kaugeltki mitte kõik meie aktiivsemad loodusvaatlejad ei võtnud omaks ideed anda jooksvalt materjali uute infolehtede koostamiseks.
Käesoleva väljaandega alustab sektsiooni juhatus koos aktivistidega uut etappi koostöös harrastusornitoloogidega. Viimastelt ootame nii jooksvat infot kui ka avaldamiseks lühiteateid ja pikemaidki (kuni 4 lk.) kirjutisi. See langeb ühte Eesti ornitoloogia uue suurteose “Eesti linnud” koostamisega, mille autoreiks on 38 ameti- ja harrastusornitoloogi. Olemasolevate materjalide esialgsel läbivaatamisel selgus, et autorite käsutuses on paljude liikide kohta väga vähe andmeid lindude mõõtmete, kaalu, munade mõõtmete ja kaalu kohta. Paljudel juhtudel on meil selguseta öösel aktiivsete lindude levik (näiteks väikehuik, hüüp, hüüpel, kakud), aga ka jäälinnu jt. siniraaliste levik ja arvukus on vaieldav (muidugi ka aastati muutuv). Lühidalt – uus “Eesti linnustik” kipub mõnegi liigi osas jääma puudulikuks. Olukorda parandada saavad üle Eesti elutsevad ja lindude elu jälgivad harrastusornitoloogid. See peab nüüd toimuma kahe-kolme aastaga, et need andmed jõuaksid veel uude “Eesti linnustikku”.
Käesolevaga ilmuma hakkava sõnumitooja ühiskondlikel tegijail-toimetajail näib jätkuvat haaret ja entusiasmi selle suure töö korrapäraseks läbiviimiseks. Kordaminek sõltub aga suurel määral sellest, kui palju ning kiiresti laekub kaastööd vaatlejailt. Igaühe tähelepanekud huvitavad peale ametiornitoloogide kõiki teisigi vaatlejaid.
Paneme suuri lootusi nüüdsest algavale kiirelele infovahetusele. Jõudu ja jaksu selleks!
Heinrich Veromann
ornitoloogiasektsiooni esimees,
bioloogiakandidaat
SAATEKS
Palju aastaid puudus Eesti Loodusuurijate Seltsi ornitoloogiasektsiooni juhatusel võimalus enam-vähem korrapärase info saatmiseks loodusvaatlejatele. Side usaldusmeestega oli põhiliselt ühesuunaline – vaatlejatelt laekus pidevalt mitmesugust andmestikku, sektsiooni juhatuselt aga läks välja üksnes mitmesuguseid juhendeid, vaatluskaustu, üleskutseid. Muidugi ilmus trükist aeg-ajalt mitmesuguseid vaatlejate andmete põhjal koostatud artikleid, kuid need läksid trükistena müügivõrku ja loodusvaatlejad said neid kauplustest vaid juhuslikult osta. Sari “Abiks loodusvaatlejale” ei saa olla operatiivse info vahendajaks, pealegi on see sari kogu seltsi mitte ornitoloogiasektsiooni väljaanne.
Esimeseks katseks luua tagasiside vaatlejatega oli allakirjutanu poolt koostatud ülevaade valge-toonekure loendustest Eestis ajavahemikul 1954-1961 (ringkiri nr. 1), mis trükiti ja saadeti välja 1962.a. Järgmine ülevaade käsitles valge-toonekure loendust 1966.a. (trükiti ja saadeti vaatlejatele välja 1967.a.). 1967.a. alates hakati vaatlejatele saatma korrapäraselt igal aastal veelindude taliloenduste kokkuvõtteid. Kõik need ringkirjad sisaldasid infot ainult ühe teema kohta.
Muutus tuli uute paljundusseadmetega. 1983.a. sai sektsiooni juhatus koostada ja paljundada esimese sisutihedama infolehe nr. 1. Nüüd on neid saanud 10, lisaks veel iga-aastased veelindude taliloenduste kokkuvõtted ning 3 ülevaadet IPA-meetodil toimuvatest linnuloendustest. Oleme aga pidanud kogema, et kaugeltki mitte kõik meie aktiivsemad loodusvaatlejad ei võtnud omaks ideed anda jooksvalt materjali uute infolehtede koostamiseks.
Käesoleva väljaandega alustab sektsiooni juhatus koos aktivistidega uut etappi koostöös harrastusornitoloogidega. Viimastelt ootame nii jooksvat infot kui ka avaldamiseks lühiteateid ja pikemaidki (kuni 4 lk.) kirjutisi. See langeb ühte Eesti ornitoloogia uue suurteose “Eesti linnud” koostamisega, mille autoreiks on 38 ameti- ja harrastusornitoloogi. Olemasolevate materjalide esialgsel läbivaatamisel selgus, et autorite käsutuses on paljude liikide kohta väga vähe andmeid lindude mõõtmete, kaalu, munade mõõtmete ja kaalu kohta. Paljudel juhtudel on meil selguseta öösel aktiivsete lindude levik (näiteks väikehuik, hüüp, hüüpel, kakud), aga ka jäälinnu jt. siniraaliste levik ja arvukus on vaieldav (muidugi ka aastati muutuv). Lühidalt – uus “Eesti linnustik” kipub mõnegi liigi osas jääma puudulikuks. Olukorda parandada saavad üle Eesti elutsevad ja lindude elu jälgivad harrastusornitoloogid. See peab nüüd toimuma kahe-kolme aastaga, et need andmed jõuaksid veel uude “Eesti linnustikku”.
Käesolevaga ilmuma hakkava sõnumitooja ühiskondlikel tegijail-toimetajail näib jätkuvat haaret ja entusiasmi selle suure töö korrapäraseks läbiviimiseks. Kordaminek sõltub aga suurel määral sellest, kui palju ning kiiresti laekub kaastööd vaatlejailt. Igaühe tähelepanekud huvitavad peale ametiornitoloogide kõiki teisigi vaatlejaid.
Paneme suuri lootusi nüüdsest algavale kiirelele infovahetusele. Jõudu ja jaksu selleks!
Heinrich Veromann
ornitoloogiasektsiooni esimees,
bioloogiakandidaat
6 September 2016 06:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.eoy.ee/hirundo/ajakirjast/8/hirundo-ajaloost-ja-taenapaeevast
Hirundo alustas ilmumist 1988. aasta märtsis.(Esmene infoleht 1983) Ajakirja loomise taustale heidab valgust tolleaegse Eesti Loodusuurijate Seltsi ornitoloogiasektsiooni esimehe Heinrich Veromanni kirjutatud avanumbri saatesõna.
1998. aastaks oli esimesest, kaheksaleheküljelisest numbrist kasvanud enam kui pooltsada lehekülge täitev ajakiri. Tähtpäeva puhul meenutas Hirundo arengut kümme aastat toimetuskogu tööd juhtinud Raivo Mänd.
Millised on aga Hirundo praegused eesmärgid? Sellest kirjutas 2002. aastal Hirundot üle viie aastat toimetanud Asko Lõhmus.
Hirundo võrgus (juba üle 20 ne aasta!)
Hirundo jõudis internetti 1996. aastal. Kodulehe esimese versiooni töötasid välja Pille ja Triinu Mänd.
1999. aasta detsembris jätkas WWW-Hirundo ilmumist Ülo Väli käe all, teine variant oli uuenenud nii sisult kui vormilt.
2003. aasta kevadel nägi Ülo Väli poolt uuendatuna ilmavalgust Hirundo kolmas võrguversioon.
Käesolev versioon on alates aastast 2014
Hirundo alustas ilmumist 1988. aasta märtsis.(Esmene infoleht 1983) Ajakirja loomise taustale heidab valgust tolleaegse Eesti Loodusuurijate Seltsi ornitoloogiasektsiooni esimehe Heinrich Veromanni kirjutatud avanumbri saatesõna.
1998. aastaks oli esimesest, kaheksaleheküljelisest numbrist kasvanud enam kui pooltsada lehekülge täitev ajakiri. Tähtpäeva puhul meenutas Hirundo arengut kümme aastat toimetuskogu tööd juhtinud Raivo Mänd.
Millised on aga Hirundo praegused eesmärgid? Sellest kirjutas 2002. aastal Hirundot üle viie aastat toimetanud Asko Lõhmus.
Hirundo võrgus (juba üle 20 ne aasta!)
Hirundo jõudis internetti 1996. aastal. Kodulehe esimese versiooni töötasid välja Pille ja Triinu Mänd.
1999. aasta detsembris jätkas WWW-Hirundo ilmumist Ülo Väli käe all, teine variant oli uuenenud nii sisult kui vormilt.
2003. aasta kevadel nägi Ülo Väli poolt uuendatuna ilmavalgust Hirundo kolmas võrguversioon.
Käesolev versioon on alates aastast 2014
http://www.eoy.ee/hirundo/ajakirjast/8/hirundo-ajaloost-ja-taenapaeevast
6 September 2016 06:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hirondu ajakiri, aastast 1988
http://www.eoy.ee/hirundo/arhiiv/
“Hirundo” on Eesti Ornitoloogiaühingu (EOÜ) ajakiri, mis ilmub kaks korda aastas. Selles avaldatakse ornitoloogilisi artikleid ja kommentaare, juhendeid, EOÜ kroonikat ning teateid. Ajakirjas ilmuvad eelkõige originaalsed uurimistulemused ja käsitlused Eesti lindude arvukusest, levikust ja bioloogiast ning linnukaitse probleemidest.
Hirundot toetavad SA Keskkonnainvesteeringute Keskus ja Keskkonnaministeerium.
// veel toetavad... täheuuringute ja mitme muu teadus ajakirjatagant juba toetused läinud... meie rahva enda süül
http://www.eoy.ee/hirundo/arhiiv/
“Hirundo” on Eesti Ornitoloogiaühingu (EOÜ) ajakiri, mis ilmub kaks korda aastas. Selles avaldatakse ornitoloogilisi artikleid ja kommentaare, juhendeid, EOÜ kroonikat ning teateid. Ajakirjas ilmuvad eelkõige originaalsed uurimistulemused ja käsitlused Eesti lindude arvukusest, levikust ja bioloogiast ning linnukaitse probleemidest.
Hirundot toetavad SA Keskkonnainvesteeringute Keskus ja Keskkonnaministeerium.
// veel toetavad... täheuuringute ja mitme muu teadus ajakirjatagant juba toetused läinud... meie rahva enda süül
http://www.eoy.ee/hirundo/arhiiv/
6 September 2016 06:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nutikas Linnumääraja:
http://linnud.loodus.ee/
Käesolev leht on loodud meie kõige tavalisemate aia- ja pargilindude tundmaõppimiseks. Valdavalt on lehel
käsitletud laululindude, aga ka teiste asulatele ja parkidele omaste linnuliikide (nt tuvid, rähnid) määramist
ja bioloogiat. Siia on koondatud eelmainitud liikide tundmaõppimist hõlbustav materjal, kuid piiratud
liigivaliku tõttu ei saa seda kasutada siiski kõigi linnuõppe käigus kohatud liikide määramiseks.
Kuidas antud juhendit lindude määramiseks kasutada? Iga liigikirjeldus koosneb neljast osast – liigile omane
elupaik, tavapärane saabumisaeg, välimuse ja käitumise üldkirjeldus ning kõige enam sarnanevad liigid.
Elupaik. Ainuüksi elupaiga järgi ühtegi linnuliiki päris kindlalt määrata ei saa, sest tihti (eriti läbirände
ajal) võivad linnud esineda ka neile ebatüüpilises keskkonnas (nt metsalinnud mererannikul jne). Tüüpiline
elupaik võib, aga aidata määrangule kinnitust saada. Samuti on see abiks õppekäigu marsruudi planeerimisel
– ehk saada teadmisi, millistest elupaikadest üldse mingit linnuliiki otsida.
Saabumisaeg. Liikide määramisel on küllaltki oluline vaadata tema tavapärast saabumisaega. Mai
keskpaigas saabuvate linnuliikide esinemine aprilli kespaigas või isegi aprilli lõpus on väga vähetõenäoline
ning sellisel juhul tasub kahtlustada, et liik on ekslikult määratud. Varakevadised liigid võivad siiski meile
ka nädalaid varem saabuda – näiteks kuldnokki ja põldlõokesi võib varasemal kevadel meil näha arvukalt
juba veebruari lõpus. Hilisemad saabujad (aprilli II poolel ning mais saabuvad liigid) on kaugrändurid, kelle
saabumises on isegi nädalapikkune kõrvalekalle väga harukordne.
Üldkirjeldus. Lindude välimuse järgi määramisel on keskendutud kõige olulisemate välistunnuste
kirjeldamisele. Väga sageli on lindude välimuse järgi määramine väga raske isegi kogenumatel vaatlejatel (nt
lehelinnud) või on liigid peidulise eluviisiga ja raskesti leitavad (nt ööbik, põõsalinnud). Sellistel puhkudel
on palju olulisem linnu määramisel rõhku panna laulu meeldejätmisele.
Sarnased liigid. Iga liigi juures on ära toodud ka kõige enam välimuse või hääle järgi sarnanevad linnuliigid.
Kindlasti tasub alati vaadata lindude määramisel ka sarnaste liikide kirjeldusi, et saada määramise õigsuse
osas suuremat kindlust.
Liigikirjeldused: Tarvo Valker
Linnuhääled: Veljo Runnel
Vaata veel - Laululindude hääli tutvustava loodusõppe läbiviimine (.pdf)
http://linnud.loodus.ee/
Käesolev leht on loodud meie kõige tavalisemate aia- ja pargilindude tundmaõppimiseks. Valdavalt on lehel
käsitletud laululindude, aga ka teiste asulatele ja parkidele omaste linnuliikide (nt tuvid, rähnid) määramist
ja bioloogiat. Siia on koondatud eelmainitud liikide tundmaõppimist hõlbustav materjal, kuid piiratud
liigivaliku tõttu ei saa seda kasutada siiski kõigi linnuõppe käigus kohatud liikide määramiseks.
Kuidas antud juhendit lindude määramiseks kasutada? Iga liigikirjeldus koosneb neljast osast – liigile omane
elupaik, tavapärane saabumisaeg, välimuse ja käitumise üldkirjeldus ning kõige enam sarnanevad liigid.
Elupaik. Ainuüksi elupaiga järgi ühtegi linnuliiki päris kindlalt määrata ei saa, sest tihti (eriti läbirände
ajal) võivad linnud esineda ka neile ebatüüpilises keskkonnas (nt metsalinnud mererannikul jne). Tüüpiline
elupaik võib, aga aidata määrangule kinnitust saada. Samuti on see abiks õppekäigu marsruudi planeerimisel
– ehk saada teadmisi, millistest elupaikadest üldse mingit linnuliiki otsida.
Saabumisaeg. Liikide määramisel on küllaltki oluline vaadata tema tavapärast saabumisaega. Mai
keskpaigas saabuvate linnuliikide esinemine aprilli kespaigas või isegi aprilli lõpus on väga vähetõenäoline
ning sellisel juhul tasub kahtlustada, et liik on ekslikult määratud. Varakevadised liigid võivad siiski meile
ka nädalaid varem saabuda – näiteks kuldnokki ja põldlõokesi võib varasemal kevadel meil näha arvukalt
juba veebruari lõpus. Hilisemad saabujad (aprilli II poolel ning mais saabuvad liigid) on kaugrändurid, kelle
saabumises on isegi nädalapikkune kõrvalekalle väga harukordne.
Üldkirjeldus. Lindude välimuse järgi määramisel on keskendutud kõige olulisemate välistunnuste
kirjeldamisele. Väga sageli on lindude välimuse järgi määramine väga raske isegi kogenumatel vaatlejatel (nt
lehelinnud) või on liigid peidulise eluviisiga ja raskesti leitavad (nt ööbik, põõsalinnud). Sellistel puhkudel
on palju olulisem linnu määramisel rõhku panna laulu meeldejätmisele.
Sarnased liigid. Iga liigi juures on ära toodud ka kõige enam välimuse või hääle järgi sarnanevad linnuliigid.
Kindlasti tasub alati vaadata lindude määramisel ka sarnaste liikide kirjeldusi, et saada määramise õigsuse
osas suuremat kindlust.
Liigikirjeldused: Tarvo Valker
Linnuhääled: Veljo Runnel
Vaata veel - Laululindude hääli tutvustava loodusõppe läbiviimine (.pdf)
http://linnud.loodus.ee/
6 September 2016 06:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siin iriseme Aafrika kallal, arusaamata, et enamus meie linde tänu nendele elus on, kui nad väga vihastuvad, või hoole kaotavad, siis saavad ka meie linnud likvideeritud. Seega hoiame sooja koostööd
"Enamik meie lindudest on rändlinnud, kes talve saabudes lendavad lõunasse. Küllalt palju on aga ka selliseid linnuliike, kes talvele vastu peavad ja keda võime kohata aastaringi. Põhja poolt, karmist tundrast, saabub meie leebema kliimaga aladele talveks ka selliseid linde, keda suviti Eestis ei näe – neid nimetatakse talikülalisteks. Meie tuntumad talilinnud on paljud tihaseliigid ja vintlased, rähnid, kanalised, vareslased, kakulised, mõned rästaliigid ja paljud veelinnud.
Pilkupüüdvad talikülalised:
» siidisaba – talle meeldivad pihlakamarjad;
» vesipapp – talvitub kärestikulistel jõgedel, kus sukeldub vee alla toitu otsima. "
http://www.tabasalulooduspark.ee/?sid=346786
"Enamik meie lindudest on rändlinnud, kes talve saabudes lendavad lõunasse. Küllalt palju on aga ka selliseid linnuliike, kes talvele vastu peavad ja keda võime kohata aastaringi. Põhja poolt, karmist tundrast, saabub meie leebema kliimaga aladele talveks ka selliseid linde, keda suviti Eestis ei näe – neid nimetatakse talikülalisteks. Meie tuntumad talilinnud on paljud tihaseliigid ja vintlased, rähnid, kanalised, vareslased, kakulised, mõned rästaliigid ja paljud veelinnud.
Pilkupüüdvad talikülalised:
» siidisaba – talle meeldivad pihlakamarjad;
» vesipapp – talvitub kärestikulistel jõgedel, kus sukeldub vee alla toitu otsima. "
http://www.tabasalulooduspark.ee/?sid=346786
http://www.tabasalulooduspark.ee/?sid=346786
6 September 2016 06:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis inglismaalt:
""Techniques exist for measuring body shape and composition separately, but we are developing a system to put them together in one scanning cubicle with a sensor ring that takes just 20 seconds to scan the whole body. Using an electromagnetic technique to analyse body composition could also enable us to work out the distribution of fat and water", says Dr Henri Tapp of the Institute of Food Research. "
The current stage of development of the prototype, which was funded as part of an EU project, BodyLife, was presented at the 3rd World Congress on Industrial Process Tomography in Canada earlier this month and the next stage is to further develop the prototype for clinical trials and validation of the technology.
Scientists and engineers from the Institute of Food Research and Lancaster University in the UK are developing a fast, safe and non-invasive scanner to accurately measure the composition of the human body, both inside and out. Aimed at providing a safe and cheap alternative to using X-rays or MRI scanners, the prototype device uses an electromagnetic technique combined with digital cameras to create a 3D image of the body's shape and map internal composition.
http://newatlas.com/go/2188/
Kuid seda ikka ei leidnud mida ma silmas pidasin.. minuarust tundus se nagu mingi heli tehnoloogia olema, mis kehast läbi vibreeris ja pildi andis..
""Techniques exist for measuring body shape and composition separately, but we are developing a system to put them together in one scanning cubicle with a sensor ring that takes just 20 seconds to scan the whole body. Using an electromagnetic technique to analyse body composition could also enable us to work out the distribution of fat and water", says Dr Henri Tapp of the Institute of Food Research. "
The current stage of development of the prototype, which was funded as part of an EU project, BodyLife, was presented at the 3rd World Congress on Industrial Process Tomography in Canada earlier this month and the next stage is to further develop the prototype for clinical trials and validation of the technology.
Scientists and engineers from the Institute of Food Research and Lancaster University in the UK are developing a fast, safe and non-invasive scanner to accurately measure the composition of the human body, both inside and out. Aimed at providing a safe and cheap alternative to using X-rays or MRI scanners, the prototype device uses an electromagnetic technique combined with digital cameras to create a 3D image of the body's shape and map internal composition.
http://newatlas.com/go/2188/
Kuid seda ikka ei leidnud mida ma silmas pidasin.. minuarust tundus se nagu mingi heli tehnoloogia olema, mis kehast läbi vibreeris ja pildi andis..
http://newatlas.com/go/2188/
5 September 2016 21:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja veel:
"Mammography is NOT capable of detecting breast cancer early enough when it can be easily treated. Generally, a tumor is first detected by a mammogram when it is about 2.5 cm (the size of a dime) At this stage, it has been growing for at least 8 years."
"Mammography is NOT capable of detecting breast cancer early enough when it can be easily treated. Generally, a tumor is first detected by a mammogram when it is about 2.5 cm (the size of a dime) At this stage, it has been growing for at least 8 years."
5 September 2016 21:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Due to the effects of radiation from mammograms, it has been estimated that up to 20% of all breast cancers diagnosed in the United States annually are actually caused by the accumulation of radiation, which makes the recommendation for annual or semi-annual mammogram ridiculous."
/(lisaks vaimu väärastumise treenimisele, mis on veel hullem programm selles osas miks naisi harjutatakse oma tisse letti panema võõraste ees.." /
Another fact, every time a woman has a mammogram, it increases her chances 5% of getting breast cancer and can be 1,000 times greater than that of a chest X-ray. Another key problem with mammograms is the compression aspect. Not only is this painful, but can also rupture any existing malignant cells spreading it throughout the body. Cancer Prevention Coalition. There is no solid evidence that mammograms save lives. In fact, research shows that adding an annual mammogram to a careful physical examination of the breasts does not improve breast cancer survival rates.
http://www.preventcancer.com/
Loodetavasti need idioodid kes algatasid mammo asja Eestis, raha teenimise ja rahva hävitamise eesmärgil, ka kunagi oma teenitud vanglakaristuse saavad
/(lisaks vaimu väärastumise treenimisele, mis on veel hullem programm selles osas miks naisi harjutatakse oma tisse letti panema võõraste ees.." /
Another fact, every time a woman has a mammogram, it increases her chances 5% of getting breast cancer and can be 1,000 times greater than that of a chest X-ray. Another key problem with mammograms is the compression aspect. Not only is this painful, but can also rupture any existing malignant cells spreading it throughout the body. Cancer Prevention Coalition. There is no solid evidence that mammograms save lives. In fact, research shows that adding an annual mammogram to a careful physical examination of the breasts does not improve breast cancer survival rates.
http://www.preventcancer.com/
Loodetavasti need idioodid kes algatasid mammo asja Eestis, raha teenimise ja rahva hävitamise eesmärgil, ka kunagi oma teenitud vanglakaristuse saavad
5 September 2016 21:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Siis vee lsee theromo teema, ma ammu rääkinud, et see mammograafia üks kahtlane asi, mitmel põhjusel..:
Thermography vs. Mammography
Thermography is recognized as one of the safest and earliest methods of screening for annual, routine breast health exams. FDA approved in 1982, thermography has no side affects. When monitoring temperature and vascular changes, thermography can identify cancer cells 8 - 10 years prior to mammograms or conventional methods. With this safe, comfortable, and painless screening procedure, thermography is beneficial to women of all age groups.This is especially good news for younger women as they have dense breasts and detection of diseases is more difficult. This is done in a matter of minutes with NO radiation, NO body contact, and NO compression.
"Is it Accurate?
Yes, thermal imaging is 97% accurate at detecting abnormalities. This preventative technology informs you of physiological changes and differences in your body so you can make lifestyle changes that may improve your health before disease develops. Thermography can also buy you time and help you consider better treatment options if disease is detected"
http://thermalimagingofoc.com/What_is_Thermal_Imaging.html
Thermography vs. Mammography
Thermography is recognized as one of the safest and earliest methods of screening for annual, routine breast health exams. FDA approved in 1982, thermography has no side affects. When monitoring temperature and vascular changes, thermography can identify cancer cells 8 - 10 years prior to mammograms or conventional methods. With this safe, comfortable, and painless screening procedure, thermography is beneficial to women of all age groups.This is especially good news for younger women as they have dense breasts and detection of diseases is more difficult. This is done in a matter of minutes with NO radiation, NO body contact, and NO compression.
"Is it Accurate?
Yes, thermal imaging is 97% accurate at detecting abnormalities. This preventative technology informs you of physiological changes and differences in your body so you can make lifestyle changes that may improve your health before disease develops. Thermography can also buy you time and help you consider better treatment options if disease is detected"
http://thermalimagingofoc.com/What_is_Thermal_Imaging.html
http://thermalimagingofoc.com/What_is_Thermal_Imaging.html
5 September 2016 21:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Pranslaste tech veel aga nii suure sammuga ei ole
"In other words, the French scientists knew what image is supposed to come through. If it were a totally random image coming through the glass it would be much more difficult to detect with their existing technique.
That should be possible one day, said Gigan, but right now its not. When it happens however, the technique could lead to a huge variety of applications.
"What we showed can be adapted to any wavelength," or any kind of wave, said Gigan. At first the technique could help cleanup noise in telecommunciations signals or fiber optic cables. Eventually however, the French scientists hope to adapt their technology to other see-through technologies, such as X-rays or ultrasounds."
http://www.seeker.com/alternative-to-x-rays-uses-visible-light-discovery-news-1767180966.html
"In other words, the French scientists knew what image is supposed to come through. If it were a totally random image coming through the glass it would be much more difficult to detect with their existing technique.
That should be possible one day, said Gigan, but right now its not. When it happens however, the technique could lead to a huge variety of applications.
"What we showed can be adapted to any wavelength," or any kind of wave, said Gigan. At first the technique could help cleanup noise in telecommunciations signals or fiber optic cables. Eventually however, the French scientists hope to adapt their technology to other see-through technologies, such as X-rays or ultrasounds."
http://www.seeker.com/alternative-to-x-rays-uses-visible-light-discovery-news-1767180966.html
http://www.seeker.com/alternative-to-x-rays-uses-visible-light-discovery-news-1767180966.html
5 September 2016 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Välispidiseks aga see tundub toimivat..
"The TSA has tested two technologies, including "millimeter wave" (MMW) technology which bounces radio-frequency waves off people to construct a 3-D image within a few seconds. TSA also temporarily leased four "backscatter" units which use X-ray scanning, although the MMW method is currently faster."
http://www.livescience.com/5387-airport-body-scans-reveal.html
"The TSA has tested two technologies, including "millimeter wave" (MMW) technology which bounces radio-frequency waves off people to construct a 3-D image within a few seconds. TSA also temporarily leased four "backscatter" units which use X-ray scanning, although the MMW method is currently faster."
http://www.livescience.com/5387-airport-body-scans-reveal.html
http://www.livescience.com/5387-airport-body-scans-reveal.html
5 September 2016 21:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
OKey, Lätlased ehitavad midagi, muidugi neile eriti suurt raha selleks ei anta aga..
"Terahertz work in the gap between optical light and microwaves and can penetrate many materials," said Professor Edik Rafailov, head of the Photonics and Nanoscience Group at the University of Dundee. "The THz frequencies -commonly referred to as T-rays - are non-ionising so have none of the inherent health risks which X-ray radiation can potentially cause"
http://phys.org/wire-news/94809727/t-rays-a-practical-alternative-to-x-rays.html
"Terahertz work in the gap between optical light and microwaves and can penetrate many materials," said Professor Edik Rafailov, head of the Photonics and Nanoscience Group at the University of Dundee. "The THz frequencies -commonly referred to as T-rays - are non-ionising so have none of the inherent health risks which X-ray radiation can potentially cause"
http://phys.org/wire-news/94809727/t-rays-a-practical-alternative-to-x-rays.html
http://phys.org/wire-news/94809727/t-rays-a-practical-alternative-to-x-rays.html
5 September 2016 21:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Kiirguse mõju tervisele jaotatakse otseseks ja kaudseks. Mõlemad kahjustavad valkude struktuuri:
otsene mõju on kiirguse neeldumisel vabanenud suure energiaga osakeste mõju otse valkude ja DNA molekulidele;
kaudseks mõjuks nimetatakse kiirete elektronide mõju molekulidele. Tekib vee radiolüüs ja vabad radikaalid kahjustavad valgumolekule.
Suure doosi tagajärjeks on kiiritushaigus ja surm[6]. Väikse doosi mõju on esmapilgul väga raske märgata. Kahjustus võib olla ühes rakus ja toime võib hilineda.
Juba 1910. aastal teati, et röntgenikiirgus võib põhjustada vähki haigestumist.
Et kaitsta inimesi või seadmeid röntgenikiirte eest, kasutatakse tihti tinast varjestust, sest see on ühtaegu tihe ja kättesaadav. Mida tihedam on aine, seda suurem on tõenäosus interaktsiooniks footoni ja aatomi vahel ja seda paremat varjestust see pakub"
otsene mõju on kiirguse neeldumisel vabanenud suure energiaga osakeste mõju otse valkude ja DNA molekulidele;
kaudseks mõjuks nimetatakse kiirete elektronide mõju molekulidele. Tekib vee radiolüüs ja vabad radikaalid kahjustavad valgumolekule.
Suure doosi tagajärjeks on kiiritushaigus ja surm[6]. Väikse doosi mõju on esmapilgul väga raske märgata. Kahjustus võib olla ühes rakus ja toime võib hilineda.
Juba 1910. aastal teati, et röntgenikiirgus võib põhjustada vähki haigestumist.
Et kaitsta inimesi või seadmeid röntgenikiirte eest, kasutatakse tihti tinast varjestust, sest see on ühtaegu tihe ja kättesaadav. Mida tihedam on aine, seda suurem on tõenäosus interaktsiooniks footoni ja aatomi vahel ja seda paremat varjestust see pakub"
5 September 2016 21:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
muidugi saab ka võtta maagilisi seeni jms, ning siis teatud inimestel aktiviseerub organitest ja kehast läbinägemise võime, et näed selgelt keasisemuse jubinaid nagu oleks kõik eri klaasidest tehtud... kuid noo.. selle standardiseerimisega veel läheb aega..
NU umbes nagu Alex Gray piltidel
NU umbes nagu Alex Gray piltidel
5 September 2016 21:30
Margus Meigo replied to Juku-kalle Raid's comment.
Kui jagad Juku, siis lisa alati ka OMA arvamus ja tegelik eesmärk juurd,e muidu mõni hakkab veel arvama, et sa puht libedaks liberaaliks hakanud, kes teiste peas oma mõtetel vaikselt sündida laseb, ilma riskita eksida
5 September 2016 21:21
Margus Meigo replied to Paulmet Lemetsky's comment.
Seda kunsti pean ise ka proovima hakkama
5 September 2016 21:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Anime Shaman. Cyber, Nature, Japan Manga, Matrix, Messianic
FOr now, share Your as well, try to add some tag also for full FB filtering and for filtering inGoup if there is many series (like #caroonName #CartoonName_AS) AnimeShaman 4 example, will fix my tags also : )5 September 2016 21:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Anime Shaman. Cyber, Nature, Japan Manga, Matrix, Messianic
Sorry, had a plan to upload all at once. but .. will try to fix that, at least beginning is done : )5 September 2016 21:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu need liberaalidest eugenikutest vanaisade lapsed, kes läbi geenimuutuste ja psüholoogia väga süstemaatiliselt proovinud välja juurida kodumaalisust ja pere norme mis inimesi Looja silmis koos hoiab, et nad siis ise majandamisest orjusesse saada, milles nad lihtsalt Peavad maksma, kui soovivad elada (nagu Linnad jms)
ja juured lõigatud, juuksed nüsitud, habemest, et südamega ühenduses olla rääkimattagi..
ja juured lõigatud, juuksed nüsitud, habemest, et südamega ühenduses olla rääkimattagi..
5 September 2016 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on Denes Kattago's post.
Kuid jah, kes kus olnud, kui ei teata miks kes kuidas mida rääkis,
siis pole mõtet ka seda kasutada rünnakuks, sest ega kõik kes kirikus pole Jumala poolel ja kõik kes Eesti sõjaväes, päris suur osa, ei ole ka Eesti poolel, vaid õpivad mida need organid opetavad, omade jaoks ja on positsioonis tuleviku tarbeks, kui Fabian Society meelsed jms Norrast ja EUst ennast avalikustama hakkavad, et "nüüd on aeg..."
siis pole mõtet ka seda kasutada rünnakuks, sest ega kõik kes kirikus pole Jumala poolel ja kõik kes Eesti sõjaväes, päris suur osa, ei ole ka Eesti poolel, vaid õpivad mida need organid opetavad, omade jaoks ja on positsioonis tuleviku tarbeks, kui Fabian Society meelsed jms Norrast ja EUst ennast avalikustama hakkavad, et "nüüd on aeg..."
5 September 2016 16:13
Margus Meigo replied to Sulev Valner's comment.
ei need liberaalid julge kellegi nime välja öelda, keda nad otseselt toetvad, kelle eest seisavad, ... see pole punaste plaan.
Ikka ilgutakse oma riigi tugisammaste kallal, nagu kutsikad ikka, see ju lihtsam, suure massiga ühes ilkuda, siis tunduks, nagu oleks toetust.. ja nii se must maagia toimib..
Ikka ilgutakse oma riigi tugisammaste kallal, nagu kutsikad ikka, see ju lihtsam, suure massiga ühes ilkuda, siis tunduks, nagu oleks toetust.. ja nii se must maagia toimib..
5 September 2016 15:33
Margus Meigo replied to Ain Raie's comment.
ega liberaalid siis avalikult väääga harva julgevad öelda oma veendumusi keda nad ühiselt toetaksid, ikka karjas penidena ollakse selle kallal mida suur viamuperemees näitab, milleks oma enamasti oma riik.
Kui uurida Siimu kallal ilkujate käest, kes nende reaalne valik oleks, kes valijate kogus Reaalselt saaks hakkama ja hiljem ka laia ilma peal, kellel kogemusi asjalikke mida võrdsustada... ega siis nad mingi peale paari teles nähtud nime esile tuua ei suuda, .. ja neetki nimed suht kahvatuvad reaalsuse taga mida momendil on vaja
Kui uurida Siimu kallal ilkujate käest, kes nende reaalne valik oleks, kes valijate kogus Reaalselt saaks hakkama ja hiljem ka laia ilma peal, kellel kogemusi asjalikke mida võrdsustada... ega siis nad mingi peale paari teles nähtud nime esile tuua ei suuda, .. ja neetki nimed suht kahvatuvad reaalsuse taga mida momendil on vaja
5 September 2016 15:32
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Nu jah, eks ta üks karmilt punane propakanda tegelikult ole,
arvestades meie ainukesi reaalseid valikuid momendil
arvestades meie ainukesi reaalseid valikuid momendil
5 September 2016 15:28
Margus Meigo replied to Kersti Hansen's comment.
Eks Siinu kallal irisemine on üldse, päris madal tase, kui neilt irisejatelt uurida, et mis siis nende reaalne alternatiiv on, momendil, Realne.
Kes suudaks kogu ilmas ja kohalikult Eesti vaimu nii edukalt hoida, kellel munad nii mitmes korvis, et ükski eri valitsus üksinda teda mõjutada ei saa, ilma, et nad siimu muud sobrad endale kaela ei saaks
Kes suudaks kogu ilmas ja kohalikult Eesti vaimu nii edukalt hoida, kellel munad nii mitmes korvis, et ükski eri valitsus üksinda teda mõjutada ei saa, ilma, et nad siimu muud sobrad endale kaela ei saaks
5 September 2016 15:27
Margus Meigo replied to Anders Põld's comment.
Eks see kallase vastane asi üks uute generatsioonide punaste liberaalide temp ole, ega motlev inimene praeguses olukorras oma riigi väheste lootuste pihta soppa ei pilluks
5 September 2016 15:25
Margus Meigo replied to Hans-Kristen Leet's comment.
väga tase klipp, kahju, et ainult viisnurgad sinna kleepinud on, viina veel elab üle, kuigi see viin üks põhiline vaenlase relv enamuste kultuuride hävitamiseks on alnud, et neid seentest ja muudest samaanilikest arusaamadest eemale ruudustiku maailma viia, kreeka-rooma impeeriumi homoliku juhtimise all
kuid jah, vunts tuleb valida, see ilmselge
kuid jah, vunts tuleb valida, see ilmselge
5 September 2016 15:24
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
Lets hope we get System of kings, back ASAP
5 September 2016 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See pani mind ka vaatama mõne mainitute eludesse, ikka huvitav ka see node elu ja käigud..
4 September 2016 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Keskmine pulm maksab 80 000 Biriti pounds.. on siis umbes 1.5 millionit krooni, et nagu see on tavaline keskmine pulm..
4 September 2016 21:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
no one likes that one to much i can see
4 September 2016 16:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
OLuline asi mida NENDE seendega mainida tule vel, et kui su teadvus üest keha versioonist teise lülitub, siis enamasti võib selles kus olid eelmise füüsiliserealsusega see keha seal ära kukkuda, ehk siis reaalselt jalapealt kukkuda, nö teavusetult, et selles osas, kui toimima hakkab, siis on hilja treppide peal kooserdama hakata, ole ikka pikali, murul vms,m voodis, kus su vaim Su üles leiba kjõikidest keha versioonidest,
Teed Jumalaga!
Teed Jumalaga!
3 September 2016 22:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eks seda näis, kui kiiresti see koik keelatakse, kui uuesti iniemstele nende päris kultuuri osa tutvustama hakkad, mis nad reaalseks teeb ja nägema paneb mille vahel nad siin edasi tagasi siblivad suures osas...
3 September 2016 09:09
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Müstiku Päevik
Oh.. ma juba motlesin, et Riigi kooli süsteemis väiksed muudatused sisse viidud3 September 2016 09:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
NIng veel reaalne foorum lisaks bluebill.ru le :
https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showwiki.php?title=Amanita_muscaria
¤ https://drugs-forum.com/forum/tags.php?tag=fly+agaric
Ja muidugi siis on veel selliseid psühonaute ka:
"MDMA+LSD+Amanita Muscaria+JWH-018+JWH-019+Salvia+Alcohol " (ei tea mis tal arus oli, julge voi..)
"The padawan still couldn’t speak, and was getting more frightened, and another voice came, this one was more normal sounding, but still masculine, and said, “BLAH BLAH BLAH, DEATH. ALL OF YOU ARE LIARS. Hocus Pocus, curses and spirits, HA HA HA. Fake bullshit, BLAH BLAH BLAH!”
As soon as the padawan heard that he got a huge chill come over his body and feared that something “demonic” may be happening. The padawan is not particularly super-religious, but if there was any time to be religious, that time was now. He wanted to ask Jesus to help him, but he couldn’t speak and his mind was racing too much to think of any prayers or anything like that…"
The woman pulled a cup out of her mouth and said, “Trust me and drink this. We have to leave before they get here.”
---
Pärast võib veel seda uurida kah:
https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showwiki.php?title=Category:Ethnobotanicals&redirect=no
ja
https://drugs-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=79
Failid, documendid:: https://drugs-forum.com/forum/local_links.php?catid=64
Kuid neid foorumeid kümneid, üks parem kui teine..
https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showwiki.php?title=Amanita_muscaria
¤ https://drugs-forum.com/forum/tags.php?tag=fly+agaric
Ja muidugi siis on veel selliseid psühonaute ka:
"MDMA+LSD+Amanita Muscaria+JWH-018+JWH-019+Salvia+Alcohol " (ei tea mis tal arus oli, julge voi..)
"The padawan still couldn’t speak, and was getting more frightened, and another voice came, this one was more normal sounding, but still masculine, and said, “BLAH BLAH BLAH, DEATH. ALL OF YOU ARE LIARS. Hocus Pocus, curses and spirits, HA HA HA. Fake bullshit, BLAH BLAH BLAH!”
As soon as the padawan heard that he got a huge chill come over his body and feared that something “demonic” may be happening. The padawan is not particularly super-religious, but if there was any time to be religious, that time was now. He wanted to ask Jesus to help him, but he couldn’t speak and his mind was racing too much to think of any prayers or anything like that…"
The woman pulled a cup out of her mouth and said, “Trust me and drink this. We have to leave before they get here.”
---
Pärast võib veel seda uurida kah:
https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showwiki.php?title=Category:Ethnobotanicals&redirect=no
ja
https://drugs-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=79
Failid, documendid:: https://drugs-forum.com/forum/local_links.php?catid=64
Kuid neid foorumeid kümneid, üks parem kui teine..
https://drugs-forum.com/forum/showwiki.php?title=Amanita_muscaria
2 September 2016 15:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kogemuste kogutud list:
https://erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Amanitas.shtml
https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.cgi?S1=5
Vot siin on kokk, ja hea näide sellest, kuidas need "narkarid" tegelikult välja näevad, mida teevad ja kuidas dokumenteerivad, see ei ole eriline , vaid see meie seas suht tavapärane, selline täpsus, julgus, kannatlikus ja teadmised:
"Following is the digest of a lot conflicting recipes and accounts that I read – at least 50 from both websites and academic journals (Journal of Psychoactive Drugs is a good one, as is Psychopharmacology; good researchers are Callaway and Riba. I will give specific references at the end of this account). I found several recurring themes"
https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=94343
"Both of us rated this as one of the most spiritual experiences we have ever had. I don’t know what single element or combination of elements finally worked, but it was simply magic. We’re looking forward to trying a slightly different version, made with Syrian rue and mimosa, and will definitely try the mushroom/Syrian rue combo on its own again, as well as amanitas on their own or maybe with Syrian rue. But a word of warning: make sure you know what you’re dealing with, especially as regards the MAOI. Look it up online, make sure you eat correctly. And be prepared for vomiting or diarrhea. I was lucky – I had no nausea at all, but I tend to have a strong stomach. I believe the low proportion of caapi to chacruna, the slow sipping, and the filtering out of the majority of sediment all helped to reduce the nausea/vomiting experience.
Admittedly, in scientific terms this was not a “clean” experiment – too many variables. However, I think the differences between our 2 experiences, the fact that mine lasted nearly 2 hours longer and was so blissful, was due to the additional MAOI and DMT I consumed. Since my boyfriend vomited so early, we assume he lost all of his DMT and most of the MAOI from the caapi. And as an experienced mushroom user, he said he got much more of an effect out of the paltry 0.5-1 g of mushrooms he consumed than he would have expected, which we attribute to the MAOI in the Syrian rue. (Like all psychedelics, mushrooms increase levels of serotonin; the MAOI allows this serotonin to last longer rather than being broken down right away, thus “potentiating” or intensifying the mushrooms’ effects. In other online accounts I read, it seems as if adding a MAOI effectively doubles the dose of mushrooms.)
Note to point #1, about proportion of caapi and vomiting: Calloway (2005) suggested that the effective dose of caapi in terms of MAOI is near the “point of emesis” (vomiting, that is). He believes vomiting is a “natural reflex” against an overdose of the harmala alkaloids in the caapi that function as the MAOI. Thus, he believes it is impossible to take a fatal dose. The point here is that the effective dose hovers right around the amount that makes you vomit. The MAOI also increases intestinal “motility” (by increasing gut serotonin levels) according to Calloway – too much motility leads to explosive expulsion of the contents of your gut, from the other end.
Note #2, about dietary restrictions. Conventional wisdom on the internet says that since the harmala alkaloids in the caapi (and Syrian rue) function as MAOIs, all tyramine containing foods should be avoided before and after use. However, it appears that these alkaloids are reversible MAOIs (the irreversible MAOIs, such as drugs used as antidepressants, take up to 2 weeks to recover from) and furthermore only act on the MAO-A system, leaving the MAO-B system intact and working, thus dietary restrictions might be unnecessary. However, in the lack of definitive research, I figure better safe than sorry! Additionally, recent and seemingly little publicized research on coffee found it to inhibit both the MAO-A and MAO-B systems (Herraiz, 2006). Thus, perhaps my boyfriend had more MAO inhibition going on at the time of drinking the chacruna than I did, which may have caused his vomiting, since as Callaway (2005) found, the effective vs. vomiting-inducing doses are quite close."
Another note: In several analyses of ayahuasca ingredients, Calloway et al. (2005) found wide variation in the levels of active components. For instance, 32 samples of caapi varied from containing 0.31 mg/g to 8.43 mg/g of harmaline alkaloids, while 36 samples of chacruna varied between containing 0.0 mg/g (yes, 0) of DMT to 7.5 mg/g. Furthermore, levels of DMT in chacruna leaves taken from the same plant at different times over the course of a day could vary in strength. This natural variation only makes it more difficult to estimate proper amounts of the plants to use in tea making. Thus, I believe you should brew at least 2 doses per person and be patient (wait at least 2 hours) before taking more. Leftovers can be frozen for future use, according to internet accounts. I have one leftover dose frozen, and will see how it works in a future encounter.
I also have 4 oz (112 g) of the yellow powdered caapi left to experiment with. Powdered bark was said to be hard to work with by many online accounts – after dealing with the sediment and its filter-clogging and gag-triggering effects, I now understand why. If I use it in the future, I may try to construct some kind of giant “tea bag” filter, maybe sewing 2 coffee filters together around it or finding some very fine cheesecloth to bag it in.
https://erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Amanitas.shtml
https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.cgi?S1=5
Vot siin on kokk, ja hea näide sellest, kuidas need "narkarid" tegelikult välja näevad, mida teevad ja kuidas dokumenteerivad, see ei ole eriline , vaid see meie seas suht tavapärane, selline täpsus, julgus, kannatlikus ja teadmised:
"Following is the digest of a lot conflicting recipes and accounts that I read – at least 50 from both websites and academic journals (Journal of Psychoactive Drugs is a good one, as is Psychopharmacology; good researchers are Callaway and Riba. I will give specific references at the end of this account). I found several recurring themes"
https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=94343
"Both of us rated this as one of the most spiritual experiences we have ever had. I don’t know what single element or combination of elements finally worked, but it was simply magic. We’re looking forward to trying a slightly different version, made with Syrian rue and mimosa, and will definitely try the mushroom/Syrian rue combo on its own again, as well as amanitas on their own or maybe with Syrian rue. But a word of warning: make sure you know what you’re dealing with, especially as regards the MAOI. Look it up online, make sure you eat correctly. And be prepared for vomiting or diarrhea. I was lucky – I had no nausea at all, but I tend to have a strong stomach. I believe the low proportion of caapi to chacruna, the slow sipping, and the filtering out of the majority of sediment all helped to reduce the nausea/vomiting experience.
Admittedly, in scientific terms this was not a “clean” experiment – too many variables. However, I think the differences between our 2 experiences, the fact that mine lasted nearly 2 hours longer and was so blissful, was due to the additional MAOI and DMT I consumed. Since my boyfriend vomited so early, we assume he lost all of his DMT and most of the MAOI from the caapi. And as an experienced mushroom user, he said he got much more of an effect out of the paltry 0.5-1 g of mushrooms he consumed than he would have expected, which we attribute to the MAOI in the Syrian rue. (Like all psychedelics, mushrooms increase levels of serotonin; the MAOI allows this serotonin to last longer rather than being broken down right away, thus “potentiating” or intensifying the mushrooms’ effects. In other online accounts I read, it seems as if adding a MAOI effectively doubles the dose of mushrooms.)
Note to point #1, about proportion of caapi and vomiting: Calloway (2005) suggested that the effective dose of caapi in terms of MAOI is near the “point of emesis” (vomiting, that is). He believes vomiting is a “natural reflex” against an overdose of the harmala alkaloids in the caapi that function as the MAOI. Thus, he believes it is impossible to take a fatal dose. The point here is that the effective dose hovers right around the amount that makes you vomit. The MAOI also increases intestinal “motility” (by increasing gut serotonin levels) according to Calloway – too much motility leads to explosive expulsion of the contents of your gut, from the other end.
Note #2, about dietary restrictions. Conventional wisdom on the internet says that since the harmala alkaloids in the caapi (and Syrian rue) function as MAOIs, all tyramine containing foods should be avoided before and after use. However, it appears that these alkaloids are reversible MAOIs (the irreversible MAOIs, such as drugs used as antidepressants, take up to 2 weeks to recover from) and furthermore only act on the MAO-A system, leaving the MAO-B system intact and working, thus dietary restrictions might be unnecessary. However, in the lack of definitive research, I figure better safe than sorry! Additionally, recent and seemingly little publicized research on coffee found it to inhibit both the MAO-A and MAO-B systems (Herraiz, 2006). Thus, perhaps my boyfriend had more MAO inhibition going on at the time of drinking the chacruna than I did, which may have caused his vomiting, since as Callaway (2005) found, the effective vs. vomiting-inducing doses are quite close."
Another note: In several analyses of ayahuasca ingredients, Calloway et al. (2005) found wide variation in the levels of active components. For instance, 32 samples of caapi varied from containing 0.31 mg/g to 8.43 mg/g of harmaline alkaloids, while 36 samples of chacruna varied between containing 0.0 mg/g (yes, 0) of DMT to 7.5 mg/g. Furthermore, levels of DMT in chacruna leaves taken from the same plant at different times over the course of a day could vary in strength. This natural variation only makes it more difficult to estimate proper amounts of the plants to use in tea making. Thus, I believe you should brew at least 2 doses per person and be patient (wait at least 2 hours) before taking more. Leftovers can be frozen for future use, according to internet accounts. I have one leftover dose frozen, and will see how it works in a future encounter.
I also have 4 oz (112 g) of the yellow powdered caapi left to experiment with. Powdered bark was said to be hard to work with by many online accounts – after dealing with the sediment and its filter-clogging and gag-triggering effects, I now understand why. If I use it in the future, I may try to construct some kind of giant “tea bag” filter, maybe sewing 2 coffee filters together around it or finding some very fine cheesecloth to bag it in.
https://erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Amanitas.shtml
2 September 2016 15:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Praktilisemat texti ka: "Amanita muscaria (as well as all other Amanita species) is uncontrolled federally in the United States. This means all parts of the plant and its extracts are legal to cultivate, buy, possess, and distribute (sell, trade or give) without a license or prescription."
EFFECTS LIST #POSITIVE
euphoria: feelings of peace and well being
marked analgesia (pain relief)
physical relaxation / dream state: (during the sedative effects) can be highly detailed, colorful, and have a great sense of clarity and lucidity. Some people describe these as being similar to Lucid Dreaming. Some describe them as Out of Body Experiences (OOBEs). As with normal dreams, the Amanita Dream State can consist of a wide variety of experiences.
internal dialogue: some people report a strong sense of an internal discussion, a feeling of being able to think through personal issues. Others report a significant reduction of internal dialogue, sense of peacefulness, and internal quiet.
synesthesia: is somewhat common, smelling words, tasting colors, etc.
clarity: Often no interference with memory or logic: many report strong "clarity of thought" and "stillness of mind". Others report mild to strong confusion.
internal focus: Difficulty in focusing concentration on external tasks. Increased focus on internal imagination, imagery, day dreams.
sociability: Group interaction can become incoherent: "conversational weirdness", frequent changes in topic, "non-linear conversations"
sexual feelings: Some people report increased sexual feelings, others report very unsexual emotional and sensual distance / coldness.
NEUTRAL
sedative or sleepy effects. others report excitation and extreme energy bursts.
changes in body perception: effects may include dramatic shifts in body perception and motor skills including perceived changes in size of body parts, increased strength, dizziness, clumsiness, change in proprioception.
slightly blurred vision, watery eyes, runny nose.
loss of Equilibrium
pupil dilation, glassy eyed stare
// (kui sul trip on juba mujal ilmas)
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Dosage is for completely dried cap material only:
Oral Amanita muscaria Dosages
Light 1 - 5 g (1 medium cap)
Common 5 - 10 g (1 - 3 medium caps)
Strong 10 - 30 g (2 - 6 medium caps)
Onset : 30 - 120 minutes
Peak : 1 - 2 hours
Duration : 5 - 10 hours (higher doses seem to last longer)
Normal After Effects : 1 - 5 hours
POTENCY VARIATION :
Most people start quite low when first working with Amanita muscaria, especially with an untested variety. Usually 1 small to medium cap is used as a starting dose. Once the strength of a given sample is known, dosages closer to 1-5 caps totaling 5-20 grams of dried material may be taken.
The potency of individual A. muscaria mushrooms is highy variable, seemingly dependent upon the season in which they are picked and significant regional variations.
Mushrooms from the same area in different seasons may have different effects (ratio of nausea/body effects to mental/entheogenic effects).
"The most powerful mushrooms were picked in the middle of August when the season was beginning. In the mushroom picked in September the narcotic and physical effects were predominant whereas in August the "visionary" and psychedelic effects were more highlighted. "
from Disembodied Eyes
The skin and the layer of material directly underneath is considered the most potent.
Taken orally, ibotenic acid is entheogenically active at 50-100 mg (Ott and Stafford)
Taken orally, muscimol displays activity at 10-15 mg.
"Despite the 2002 scheduling of psilocybes in Japan, A. muscaria are still legal and sold openly at smart shops."
...2010 Rumeenia on ainuke riik, kus kärbseseen keelati.. mis on ohtlik.. sest noh.. eks see oli maa kus seda asja veel teati.. ja siis ol ivaja neil piir panna..ja kui selles riigis läbi läheb siis sedasi edasi arenedes..
https://erowid.org/plants/amanitas/amanitas.shtml
EFFECTS LIST #POSITIVE
euphoria: feelings of peace and well being
marked analgesia (pain relief)
physical relaxation / dream state: (during the sedative effects) can be highly detailed, colorful, and have a great sense of clarity and lucidity. Some people describe these as being similar to Lucid Dreaming. Some describe them as Out of Body Experiences (OOBEs). As with normal dreams, the Amanita Dream State can consist of a wide variety of experiences.
internal dialogue: some people report a strong sense of an internal discussion, a feeling of being able to think through personal issues. Others report a significant reduction of internal dialogue, sense of peacefulness, and internal quiet.
synesthesia: is somewhat common, smelling words, tasting colors, etc.
clarity: Often no interference with memory or logic: many report strong "clarity of thought" and "stillness of mind". Others report mild to strong confusion.
internal focus: Difficulty in focusing concentration on external tasks. Increased focus on internal imagination, imagery, day dreams.
sociability: Group interaction can become incoherent: "conversational weirdness", frequent changes in topic, "non-linear conversations"
sexual feelings: Some people report increased sexual feelings, others report very unsexual emotional and sensual distance / coldness.
NEUTRAL
sedative or sleepy effects. others report excitation and extreme energy bursts.
changes in body perception: effects may include dramatic shifts in body perception and motor skills including perceived changes in size of body parts, increased strength, dizziness, clumsiness, change in proprioception.
slightly blurred vision, watery eyes, runny nose.
loss of Equilibrium
pupil dilation, glassy eyed stare
// (kui sul trip on juba mujal ilmas)
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Dosage is for completely dried cap material only:
Oral Amanita muscaria Dosages
Light 1 - 5 g (1 medium cap)
Common 5 - 10 g (1 - 3 medium caps)
Strong 10 - 30 g (2 - 6 medium caps)
Onset : 30 - 120 minutes
Peak : 1 - 2 hours
Duration : 5 - 10 hours (higher doses seem to last longer)
Normal After Effects : 1 - 5 hours
POTENCY VARIATION :
Most people start quite low when first working with Amanita muscaria, especially with an untested variety. Usually 1 small to medium cap is used as a starting dose. Once the strength of a given sample is known, dosages closer to 1-5 caps totaling 5-20 grams of dried material may be taken.
The potency of individual A. muscaria mushrooms is highy variable, seemingly dependent upon the season in which they are picked and significant regional variations.
Mushrooms from the same area in different seasons may have different effects (ratio of nausea/body effects to mental/entheogenic effects).
"The most powerful mushrooms were picked in the middle of August when the season was beginning. In the mushroom picked in September the narcotic and physical effects were predominant whereas in August the "visionary" and psychedelic effects were more highlighted. "
from Disembodied Eyes
The skin and the layer of material directly underneath is considered the most potent.
Taken orally, ibotenic acid is entheogenically active at 50-100 mg (Ott and Stafford)
Taken orally, muscimol displays activity at 10-15 mg.
"Despite the 2002 scheduling of psilocybes in Japan, A. muscaria are still legal and sold openly at smart shops."
...2010 Rumeenia on ainuke riik, kus kärbseseen keelati.. mis on ohtlik.. sest noh.. eks see oli maa kus seda asja veel teati.. ja siis ol ivaja neil piir panna..ja kui selles riigis läbi läheb siis sedasi edasi arenedes..
https://erowid.org/plants/amanitas/amanitas.shtml
https://erowid.org/plants/amanitas/amanitas.shtml
2 September 2016 15:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muidugi liberaalsema, ise mitte vaimuga koos oleva inimeste poolt, proovitud kokku pandud noortepärasem jutt, on selline tüüpiline mis räägib vdkast, suitsetamisest ja mis seda tegelt teha ei maini... lisaks nimetavad seda effekti toxsilisuses oelmises.. andes alateadvusele moista, et see umbes nagu alkoholi teema oleks. :
"The mushrooms are gathered and dried in sunlight or inside an oven. The temperature can be, in contrast to drying psilocybin containing mushrooms, a bit higher (see also miscellaneous). One should not take more than one medium-sized mushroom, before the individual tolerance and the substance-content of the present mushrooms are known. This is especially important since the content of active substances in toadstools can easily vary by a factor of 100 and more – depending on the location, season and weather conditions the mushroom strength can vary from almost ineffective to highly potent."
Ja kuidas siis siberi iniemsed likvideeriti, uued polvkonnad kellele peale suruti, et need vanaisad neil lihtsalt niisama tripivad, sina aga vota pudel ja see palju turvalisem...
näe, anname sulle kätte, ei pea ise metsast tooma minema.. seal niiske ka ja..
"Ibotenic acid as contained in the fly agaric will decarboxylate through long storage and/or heating like roasting or drying in hot air into muscimol. Muscimol is distinctly more active and seems to be better tolerable. The most unpleasant side effects were reported most often after the consumption of fresh, raw toadstools. Before the introduction of alcohol, the fly agaric was the most important intoxicant of Siberia."
it is often advised to prefer the specimen gathered in August.
"The fly agaric is for sure much less toxic as commonly assumed. A text book of toxicology (Daunderer et al.) states the lethal dose as “at least 100g of the fresh mushroom” and says at the same time, that only 1 to 2 percent of all mushroom poisonings can be traced back to the fly agaric. Out of those, about5 % become lethal. Jonathan Ott however wrote in his Pharmacotheon, that he found only one case of a proven lethal fly agaric poisoning in the literature within the whole North American and Euro Asiatic zone; to that a case of poisoning due to the panther cap, Amanita pantherina, that contains the same active substances in considerably higher concentrations."
http://psychotropicon.info/amanita-muscaria-toadstool/
"The mushrooms are gathered and dried in sunlight or inside an oven. The temperature can be, in contrast to drying psilocybin containing mushrooms, a bit higher (see also miscellaneous). One should not take more than one medium-sized mushroom, before the individual tolerance and the substance-content of the present mushrooms are known. This is especially important since the content of active substances in toadstools can easily vary by a factor of 100 and more – depending on the location, season and weather conditions the mushroom strength can vary from almost ineffective to highly potent."
Ja kuidas siis siberi iniemsed likvideeriti, uued polvkonnad kellele peale suruti, et need vanaisad neil lihtsalt niisama tripivad, sina aga vota pudel ja see palju turvalisem...
näe, anname sulle kätte, ei pea ise metsast tooma minema.. seal niiske ka ja..
"Ibotenic acid as contained in the fly agaric will decarboxylate through long storage and/or heating like roasting or drying in hot air into muscimol. Muscimol is distinctly more active and seems to be better tolerable. The most unpleasant side effects were reported most often after the consumption of fresh, raw toadstools. Before the introduction of alcohol, the fly agaric was the most important intoxicant of Siberia."
it is often advised to prefer the specimen gathered in August.
"The fly agaric is for sure much less toxic as commonly assumed. A text book of toxicology (Daunderer et al.) states the lethal dose as “at least 100g of the fresh mushroom” and says at the same time, that only 1 to 2 percent of all mushroom poisonings can be traced back to the fly agaric. Out of those, about5 % become lethal. Jonathan Ott however wrote in his Pharmacotheon, that he found only one case of a proven lethal fly agaric poisoning in the literature within the whole North American and Euro Asiatic zone; to that a case of poisoning due to the panther cap, Amanita pantherina, that contains the same active substances in considerably higher concentrations."
http://psychotropicon.info/amanita-muscaria-toadstool/
http://psychotropicon.info/amanita-muscaria-toadstool/
2 September 2016 15:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
This information is based on a systematic review of scientific literature edited and peer-reviewed by contributors to the Natural Standard Research Collaboration:
"In a moderate dose, agaric acid may have no effect upon the central nervous system, except to paralyze the nerves of the sweat glands."
" Religious and ceremonial usage of agaric has been documented in Buddhist, Native American, Japanese, Siberian, ancient Greek, and proto-Hindi texts. Gathering and consuming mushrooms and other plants containing psychoactive substances have become increasingly popular among some people experimenting with drugs."
//täpsemini meeli arendavate psühedeelsete ainetega, "smart-drugs", süstiad eriti palju sellest ei hooli ,sest hakkavad kartma.. sest pole naudingu teema ainult.. reaalsus päris sõltlastele ei meeldi..
"Liver damage, liver failure, and death have occurred in people taking related mushroom species, namely Amanita phalloides (death cap) or Amanita virosa (deadly agaric). There are no available reports of liver damage from Amanita muscarina
// (kärbseseene kohta pole veel ühtegi teadaolevat maksakahustust dokumenteeritud kogu maakera teaduse ajastul )."
" Agaric is not recommended for pregnant or lactating women because of potential adverse effects."
" Based on reported adverse effects of agaric, significant interactions may occur. Patients taking any medications should consult with a qualified healthcare professional, including a pharmacist.
Agaric may cause changes in blood pressure. Thus, patients using blood pressure lowering medications should consult with a qualified healthcare professional, including a pharmacist. "
"Interactions with Herbs and Dietary Supplements
Based on reported adverse effects of agaric, significant interactions may occur. Patients taking herbs and supplements should consult with a qualified healthcare professional, including a pharmacist.
Agaric is abundant in selenium and may have additive effects when taken with other herbs and supplements that contain selenium. "
"Agaric is considered poisonous, though RARELY fatal. Several studies document the toxicity and neurological effects of taking agaric by mouth. No formal trials regarding agaric toxicity or therapeutic benefit are currently available."
http://www.thefreshcarrot.ca/ns/DisplayMonograph.asp?StoreID=5020E137E9014BC38944489AF1F99926&DocID=bottomline-agaric
"In a moderate dose, agaric acid may have no effect upon the central nervous system, except to paralyze the nerves of the sweat glands."
" Religious and ceremonial usage of agaric has been documented in Buddhist, Native American, Japanese, Siberian, ancient Greek, and proto-Hindi texts. Gathering and consuming mushrooms and other plants containing psychoactive substances have become increasingly popular among some people experimenting with drugs."
//täpsemini meeli arendavate psühedeelsete ainetega, "smart-drugs", süstiad eriti palju sellest ei hooli ,sest hakkavad kartma.. sest pole naudingu teema ainult.. reaalsus päris sõltlastele ei meeldi..
"Liver damage, liver failure, and death have occurred in people taking related mushroom species, namely Amanita phalloides (death cap) or Amanita virosa (deadly agaric). There are no available reports of liver damage from Amanita muscarina
// (kärbseseene kohta pole veel ühtegi teadaolevat maksakahustust dokumenteeritud kogu maakera teaduse ajastul )."
" Agaric is not recommended for pregnant or lactating women because of potential adverse effects."
" Based on reported adverse effects of agaric, significant interactions may occur. Patients taking any medications should consult with a qualified healthcare professional, including a pharmacist.
Agaric may cause changes in blood pressure. Thus, patients using blood pressure lowering medications should consult with a qualified healthcare professional, including a pharmacist. "
"Interactions with Herbs and Dietary Supplements
Based on reported adverse effects of agaric, significant interactions may occur. Patients taking herbs and supplements should consult with a qualified healthcare professional, including a pharmacist.
Agaric is abundant in selenium and may have additive effects when taken with other herbs and supplements that contain selenium. "
"Agaric is considered poisonous, though RARELY fatal. Several studies document the toxicity and neurological effects of taking agaric by mouth. No formal trials regarding agaric toxicity or therapeutic benefit are currently available."
http://www.thefreshcarrot.ca/ns/DisplayMonograph.asp?StoreID=5020E137E9014BC38944489AF1F99926&DocID=bottomline-agaric
http://www.thefreshcarrot.ca/ns/DisplayMonograph.asp?StoreID=5020E137E9014BC38944489AF1F99926&DocID=bottomline-agaric
2 September 2016 14:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Hallucinogenic fungi have been used in divinatory or religious contexts for at least 3000 years. However, it was not until the 1950s that the involved species of fungi were identified and the chemical nature of the active substances was determined"
"Consumption of hallucinogenic mushrooms continues to be popular today in some settings. Motives for their use include simple experimentation; a desire to enhance routine experiences, emotions, or social interactions; to disconnect from reality; to induce visions; as a psychotherapeutic tool; or for mystical or spiritual reasons.
// (muidugi neil sab vahest ebameeldiv olema, kes soovivad "reaalsusest eemalduda" nede asjadega, sestneed on JUST reaalsusesse TOOMISEKS ja reaalsuse Õpetamiseks mõeldud... seega poleime, et osadel poistel hirmus hakkab, kui nad teletupsu maale ainult plaanisid minna kuni neil turjast haaratakse.. ) // Kui jumalat tunda ei soovi, siis pole nagu suurt motet.. ja olla kindel ,et siis saad teada mis jumal on, siis ka.. võta suts vaiksemalt.. (kui just eepiliste kogustega, oigetes segudes tegelema kohe asuda plaan..)
" For the most part, mushrooms with significant psychoactive effects fall into the following 2 groups :
¤ Mushrooms containing ibotenic acid and muscimol (isoxazoles) – Amanita gemmata, Amanita muscaria (also called fly agaric or soma), and Amanita pantherina (also called panther or panther amanita);
¤ Mushrooms containing psilocybin – Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe cubensis, Gymnopilus spectabilis, Panaeolus species (eg, Panaeolus foenisecii), and Psathyrella foenisecii " (neid kombineerides saad õige teema, nagu iidsed joonistused näitasid.. kuid jah, saladused + tarkus)
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"For centuries, A muscaria has been consumed in central Asia as a hallucinogen. Some Siberian tribes report that 3 fresh A muscaria mushrooms can be lethal, whereas others claim that eating as many as 21 of these mushrooms is safe. Various hallucinogenic mushrooms containing ibotenic acid and muscimol or psilocybin are found in the New World. Reports of toxicity associated with this group of mushrooms have increased as a consequence of their growing popularity as hallucinogens"
// muidugi toxilisuse alla loevad nad igasuguse juhuse kus inimene tripib, on vaimumaailmas, või "Koomas" kus ta vaim muus ruumis toiemtab ja sellesse kehasse tuleb alles mone aja pärast uuesti kui suts targemaks saanud on ... selleasemel ,et inimest onnitleda, et näe, võttiski käsile.. ja tegi oma elus esimest korda midagi olulist ka, , et aru saaks kus ja mis kta on... et kui hästi läheb siis jätkab ja saab juba 10 aasta pärast päris palju rohkem aru ümber õppides ja integreerides sellesse ajasse kuhu osa ta kea ja vaimust sattunud on..
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"Care is primarily supportive. Symptoms usually subside in 6-8 hours"
"No particular diagnostic procedures are available or needed for most patients"
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/817848-overview
"Consumption of hallucinogenic mushrooms continues to be popular today in some settings. Motives for their use include simple experimentation; a desire to enhance routine experiences, emotions, or social interactions; to disconnect from reality; to induce visions; as a psychotherapeutic tool; or for mystical or spiritual reasons.
// (muidugi neil sab vahest ebameeldiv olema, kes soovivad "reaalsusest eemalduda" nede asjadega, sestneed on JUST reaalsusesse TOOMISEKS ja reaalsuse Õpetamiseks mõeldud... seega poleime, et osadel poistel hirmus hakkab, kui nad teletupsu maale ainult plaanisid minna kuni neil turjast haaratakse.. ) // Kui jumalat tunda ei soovi, siis pole nagu suurt motet.. ja olla kindel ,et siis saad teada mis jumal on, siis ka.. võta suts vaiksemalt.. (kui just eepiliste kogustega, oigetes segudes tegelema kohe asuda plaan..)
" For the most part, mushrooms with significant psychoactive effects fall into the following 2 groups :
¤ Mushrooms containing ibotenic acid and muscimol (isoxazoles) – Amanita gemmata, Amanita muscaria (also called fly agaric or soma), and Amanita pantherina (also called panther or panther amanita);
¤ Mushrooms containing psilocybin – Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe cubensis, Gymnopilus spectabilis, Panaeolus species (eg, Panaeolus foenisecii), and Psathyrella foenisecii " (neid kombineerides saad õige teema, nagu iidsed joonistused näitasid.. kuid jah, saladused + tarkus)
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"For centuries, A muscaria has been consumed in central Asia as a hallucinogen. Some Siberian tribes report that 3 fresh A muscaria mushrooms can be lethal, whereas others claim that eating as many as 21 of these mushrooms is safe. Various hallucinogenic mushrooms containing ibotenic acid and muscimol or psilocybin are found in the New World. Reports of toxicity associated with this group of mushrooms have increased as a consequence of their growing popularity as hallucinogens"
// muidugi toxilisuse alla loevad nad igasuguse juhuse kus inimene tripib, on vaimumaailmas, või "Koomas" kus ta vaim muus ruumis toiemtab ja sellesse kehasse tuleb alles mone aja pärast uuesti kui suts targemaks saanud on ... selleasemel ,et inimest onnitleda, et näe, võttiski käsile.. ja tegi oma elus esimest korda midagi olulist ka, , et aru saaks kus ja mis kta on... et kui hästi läheb siis jätkab ja saab juba 10 aasta pärast päris palju rohkem aru ümber õppides ja integreerides sellesse ajasse kuhu osa ta kea ja vaimust sattunud on..
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"Care is primarily supportive. Symptoms usually subside in 6-8 hours"
"No particular diagnostic procedures are available or needed for most patients"
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/817848-overview
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/817848-overview
2 September 2016 14:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Fly agaric is well known to contain psychoactive alkaloids, and has a long history of use in Asia and parts of northern Europe for religious and recreational purposes. It has also been identified with ‘Soma’, a sacred and hallucinogenic ritual drink used for religious purposes in India and Iran from as early as 2000 B.C., and the subject of a Hindu religious hymn, the Rig Veda. The identity of Soma is controversial but is thought by the American author Robert Wasson to be made from A. muscaria."
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Kooselu:
"Like most Amanita species, as well as a wide range of other fungi, A. muscaria is ectomycorrhizal, forming an intimate, mutually beneficial relationship with the roots of its host trees. In its native range in the temperate northern hemisphere, its hosts include birches and various conifers, including species of Abies, Cedrus, Picea and Pinus.
It has long been established outside its native range in parts of the southern hemisphere, especially in south-eastern Australia, including Tasmania, and in New Zealand. Here, it has spread from the cultivated pine plantations (Pinus radiata), with which it was apparently originally introduced, to form associations with various other introduced trees, including broad-leaves, conifers and Euclayptus. In New Zealand it has become established with Nothofagus and possibly other trees native to the area, and may aggressively compete with, and oust, native ectomycorrhizal fungi. It is regarded as a pest species in New Zealand"
Näe New Zealand ka moistuselt kiilakaks läinud, täitsa äara unustanud mis seen see on ja milleks..
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"this cholinergic toxin is usually present in such small amounts that it rarely contributes to significant clinical toxicity"
"Manifestations of A muscaria poisoning include: weakness, altered mental status, dizziness, somnolence, coma, hypersalivation, and hallucinations. Onset is within 30-120 min of ingestion with symptoms typically lasting for 8-12 hours. Deaths are rare."
("kooma" on see aeg, kui Sa oma keahst väljas oled toimetad olulisemaid asju, selleks ajaks jäta kiri lauale, et sa tripid ja ärgu nad Jumala eestsind üles ajama hakaku sest esiteks see ei pruugi onnestuda ja teiseks see segab ja härib su kogemust kovasti, see on iseennast sinuga reguleeriv taim, mis suurtes oigetes kogustes vajab oma kohta kus pikali heita, soovitavalt pane mingi asi lindistama ka, et oma juttu hiljem yle kulata)
"This paper may be worth looking at, since reports of A muscaria poisoning are so unusual. However, the report contains some unsubstantiated claims that should have been removed if they could not be supported with evidence. The authors state that muscimol is a GABAB-receptor antagonist, a contention that I believe is incorrect"
http://www.kew.org/science-conservation/plants-fungi/amanita-muscaria-fly-agaric
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Kooselu:
"Like most Amanita species, as well as a wide range of other fungi, A. muscaria is ectomycorrhizal, forming an intimate, mutually beneficial relationship with the roots of its host trees. In its native range in the temperate northern hemisphere, its hosts include birches and various conifers, including species of Abies, Cedrus, Picea and Pinus.
It has long been established outside its native range in parts of the southern hemisphere, especially in south-eastern Australia, including Tasmania, and in New Zealand. Here, it has spread from the cultivated pine plantations (Pinus radiata), with which it was apparently originally introduced, to form associations with various other introduced trees, including broad-leaves, conifers and Euclayptus. In New Zealand it has become established with Nothofagus and possibly other trees native to the area, and may aggressively compete with, and oust, native ectomycorrhizal fungi. It is regarded as a pest species in New Zealand"
Näe New Zealand ka moistuselt kiilakaks läinud, täitsa äara unustanud mis seen see on ja milleks..
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"this cholinergic toxin is usually present in such small amounts that it rarely contributes to significant clinical toxicity"
"Manifestations of A muscaria poisoning include: weakness, altered mental status, dizziness, somnolence, coma, hypersalivation, and hallucinations. Onset is within 30-120 min of ingestion with symptoms typically lasting for 8-12 hours. Deaths are rare."
("kooma" on see aeg, kui Sa oma keahst väljas oled toimetad olulisemaid asju, selleks ajaks jäta kiri lauale, et sa tripid ja ärgu nad Jumala eestsind üles ajama hakaku sest esiteks see ei pruugi onnestuda ja teiseks see segab ja härib su kogemust kovasti, see on iseennast sinuga reguleeriv taim, mis suurtes oigetes kogustes vajab oma kohta kus pikali heita, soovitavalt pane mingi asi lindistama ka, et oma juttu hiljem yle kulata)
"This paper may be worth looking at, since reports of A muscaria poisoning are so unusual. However, the report contains some unsubstantiated claims that should have been removed if they could not be supported with evidence. The authors state that muscimol is a GABAB-receptor antagonist, a contention that I believe is incorrect"
http://www.kew.org/science-conservation/plants-fungi/amanita-muscaria-fly-agaric
2 September 2016 14:32
Margus Meigo replied to Margus von Einmann's comment.
NU leidsin kust see viinaga solkimise komme tuli..
Lätlastelt, nu on kuuevarbalised..
"Professor Marija Gimbutas, a renowned Lithuanian historian, reported to R. Gordon Wasson on the use of this mushroom in Lithuania. In remote areas of Lithuania Amanita muscaria has been consumed at wedding feasts, in which mushrooms were mixed with vodka. The professor also reported that the Lithuanians used to export A. muscaria to the Lapps in the Far North for use in shamanic rituals. The Lithuanian festivities are the only report that Wasson received of ingestion of fly agaric for religious use in Eastern Europe "
Lätlastelt, nu on kuuevarbalised..
"Professor Marija Gimbutas, a renowned Lithuanian historian, reported to R. Gordon Wasson on the use of this mushroom in Lithuania. In remote areas of Lithuania Amanita muscaria has been consumed at wedding feasts, in which mushrooms were mixed with vodka. The professor also reported that the Lithuanians used to export A. muscaria to the Lapps in the Far North for use in shamanic rituals. The Lithuanian festivities are the only report that Wasson received of ingestion of fly agaric for religious use in Eastern Europe "
2 September 2016 14:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(enamus muud surmajuhtumid aspiriinist kuni surnuks kägistamiseni onamise ajal: " Estimates of the mortality rate of autoerotic asphyxia range from 250 to 1000 deaths per year in the United States, tegelik number on väga palju suurem, sest suuurem osa vanemaid teatavad, et see oli lihtsalt enesetapp.." )
Amanita muscaria: "Although classified as poisonous, reports of human deaths resulting from its ingestion are extremely rare. After parboiling—which weakens its toxicity and breaks down the mushroom's psychoactive substances—it is eaten in parts of Europe, Asia, and North America. Amanita muscaria is noted for its hallucinogenic properties, with its main psychoactive constituent being the compound muscimol. The mushroom was used as an intoxicant and entheogen by the peoples of Siberia, and has a religious significance in these cultures. There has been much speculation on possible traditional use of this mushroom as an intoxicant in other places such as the Middle East, Eurasia, North America, and Scandinavia"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria
The North American Mycological Association has stated there were no reliably documented fatalities from eating this mushroom during the 20th century.[61] The vast majority (90% or more) of mushroom poisoning deaths are from eating the greenish to yellowish "death cap", (A. phalloides) or perhaps even one of the several white Amanita species which are known as destroying angels (vot kus nimi!)
(ahjaa, veelkorra. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_asphyxiation ... keegi ei näe, et seda illegaalseks teha proovitakse. lubatakse promoda küll netis ja mujal.. )
Amanita muscaria: "Although classified as poisonous, reports of human deaths resulting from its ingestion are extremely rare. After parboiling—which weakens its toxicity and breaks down the mushroom's psychoactive substances—it is eaten in parts of Europe, Asia, and North America. Amanita muscaria is noted for its hallucinogenic properties, with its main psychoactive constituent being the compound muscimol. The mushroom was used as an intoxicant and entheogen by the peoples of Siberia, and has a religious significance in these cultures. There has been much speculation on possible traditional use of this mushroom as an intoxicant in other places such as the Middle East, Eurasia, North America, and Scandinavia"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria
The North American Mycological Association has stated there were no reliably documented fatalities from eating this mushroom during the 20th century.[61] The vast majority (90% or more) of mushroom poisoning deaths are from eating the greenish to yellowish "death cap", (A. phalloides) or perhaps even one of the several white Amanita species which are known as destroying angels (vot kus nimi!)
(ahjaa, veelkorra. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_asphyxiation ... keegi ei näe, et seda illegaalseks teha proovitakse. lubatakse promoda küll netis ja mujal.. )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria
2 September 2016 14:22
Margus Meigo replied to Margus von Einmann's comment.
muidu veel kahetsed, et siin maailmas üldse füüsilise kuju võtsid mõndaaega ... kuid eks ka see, tee inimest targemaks kui ateist, edaspidi vaatab metsa hoopis teise pilguga ja iga põõsa otsa ei kuse ega konisi maha enam ei pillu
2 September 2016 14:08
Margus Meigo replied to Margus von Einmann's comment.
ikka nii paari seene kaupa.. ahneks ei tohi ka minna...
2 September 2016 14:07
Margus Meigo replied to Margus von Einmann's comment.
mõned lausa suitsetavad kärbseseent ja keedavad ja ei tea mida kõike veel... selleasemel , et kohe sööma hakata.. voi parema maitse saamiseks, et kui mitu päeva plaanis asja tõsiselt ette võtta, siis kuivata laadung ära, hakka värsketest pihta ja siis vastavalt vaimu soovile, krõbista otsa peale igat tagasitulekut, kuni isu täis saab, (mis võib ka nädala kesta ja heas keskonnas kauemgi veel.. )
2 September 2016 14:07
Margus Meigo replied to Margus von Einmann's comment.
Nu jah..
inimesd ikka mõtlevad sada 10 moodiust välja, kuidas nii valesti kui vähegi võimalik kõike proovida,
Alkohol on vist üks valemaid aineid üldse, ohtlikuimaid, mida taoliste asjadega koos võtta. Vedas veel, et pohmakaga piirdus sul see asi... kui ikka purjus peaga vaimumaailma kondama lähed, siis võid suht kindlalt peeruvahele saada.
inimesd ikka mõtlevad sada 10 moodiust välja, kuidas nii valesti kui vähegi võimalik kõike proovida,
Alkohol on vist üks valemaid aineid üldse, ohtlikuimaid, mida taoliste asjadega koos võtta. Vedas veel, et pohmakaga piirdus sul see asi... kui ikka purjus peaga vaimumaailma kondama lähed, siis võid suht kindlalt peeruvahele saada.
2 September 2016 14:04
Margus Meigo replied to Margus von Einmann's comment.
irooniline on see, et nüüd ise tallina tv s promovad tulnareid .. kuid muidugi halenaljaka nurga alt, näidates miskeid vilkuvaid tulukesi taevas ja häguseid lugusi .. selle asemel, et mass inim laboritest, beebi tehastest, aegruumi ja paraleel reaalsustes toimetavatest asutustest ja paljust muust sutsu reaalsemasse maailma inimesi toovat mainida.. mis aitaks tajuda, et kas siin üldse on motet, miskeid tulukesi taevas vahtida... tulkesed võivad vabalt saksa lennutehnoloogia olla.. kuid kes siis sedasi lendab, et neid nähakse, kui just sellist soovi pole.. kes üldse viitsib lennata algeliste ketaste ja masinatega.. kui muuks otstarbeks ,kui inimetele teatri tegemiseks, kes neid sinna teatrisse viiakse.. et nad tagsitulles uskudes räägiks, et nii algeline nede tehnoloogia ongi... et olekski nagu ühest ajast teise astujad jms
2 September 2016 14:02
Margus Meigo replied to Margus von Einmann's comment.
ei miks see kärbseseen keelatud peaks olema,
selle osa tegi N Liit ära juba, et programeeris inimeste ajud ümber, eri shamaani ja iidsetel rahvastel, järjepideva pasandamisega, et see iidne austatuimaid raviseeeni hoopis "mürgiseen" on ja siis kõik kes vahele jäid selletarkusega, need tehti vaiskelt korda, nii , et keegi ei märganud.. sest seda nad ei saanud lubada, et see välja tuleks, et need nende plaanide ühed nurgakivid on... saada rahvast eemale asjadest, mis nende vaimuõhõrnasi plaane läbinähtavaks kergesti teeks mida nad oma lipsudega kuus viisnurga tulnaritega välja kudunud laborites selle liigi allutamiseks
selle osa tegi N Liit ära juba, et programeeris inimeste ajud ümber, eri shamaani ja iidsetel rahvastel, järjepideva pasandamisega, et see iidne austatuimaid raviseeeni hoopis "mürgiseen" on ja siis kõik kes vahele jäid selletarkusega, need tehti vaiskelt korda, nii , et keegi ei märganud.. sest seda nad ei saanud lubada, et see välja tuleks, et need nende plaanide ühed nurgakivid on... saada rahvast eemale asjadest, mis nende vaimuõhõrnasi plaane läbinähtavaks kergesti teeks mida nad oma lipsudega kuus viisnurga tulnaritega välja kudunud laborites selle liigi allutamiseks
2 September 2016 13:58
Margus Meigo replied to Margus von Einmann's comment.
mul hea sõber geniaalsele ideele kunagi tuli ja nimed ja plaanid olemas, et millised Eesti tip poliitikud ja tegelased, kutsuda auasca telki, et kõiki, kogu valitsust kohe korgemale arusaama tasemele üheksoos saada (üksikult on vähe abi, pigem võib kahtlane olla..) ja siis teda hoopis hullumajasse kinnimajasse panna prooviti selletõttu.
Pandi vist ka sund ravimite alla mõneks ajaks.
Tõiesti hullumeelne ühiskond, selist kingitust teadmist, inimesteni vähesed tõsimeeli toovad... õigesti, ja siis selline on tasu..
kuid küll me sinnani jõuame, kui veel millegagi jõuda on
Pandi vist ka sund ravimite alla mõneks ajaks.
Tõiesti hullumeelne ühiskond, selist kingitust teadmist, inimesteni vähesed tõsimeeli toovad... õigesti, ja siis selline on tasu..
kuid küll me sinnani jõuame, kui veel millegagi jõuda on
2 September 2016 13:55
Margus Meigo replied to Margus von Einmann's comment.
Kuid kui rohkem käes on, siis suvepävad peaks tegema küll osadele ,saatma kirja, et kes kunagi soovib, ... kuid praegu pole selleks aeg veel, vaja muud põhjad õigemad toimima saada enne, et veidrikuna see asi ei pasitaks, vaid ikka tõsise heateo ja vastutulekuga
2 September 2016 13:52
Margus Meigo replied to Margus von Einmann's comment.
vaevalt, neil nii pikad tööpäevad, ei jõua nad sellega tegeleda,
kuigi kõrgemates Eesti luure asutustes, nad juba teavad seeni, et olla Eesti päris asjadega kurssis, kuid neist ma siinei räägi:)
kuigi kõrgemates Eesti luure asutustes, nad juba teavad seeni, et olla Eesti päris asjadega kurssis, kuid neist ma siinei räägi:)
2 September 2016 13:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kukeseene toite ja ravi väärtus pidi muidu päris null olema, minig seene tark ütles, ...kuigi soust maitseb hästi...
kuid kas kuivatatud kärbseseent võiga praadides oled söönud?
Vot.. siis räägi...mis on hea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY
kuid kas kuivatatud kärbseseent võiga praadides oled söönud?
Vot.. siis räägi...mis on hea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY
2 September 2016 12:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Internetis päris sügavamaid tõdesi ma pole kunagi näinud veel, kui EESTLASLIKUD need Seened on, ja kuhu viivad ja mida vanade Eestlaste käeall õpetavad kui juba mitu päeva järjest oled ennast nende meelevada Jumala silmis usaldanud.. kuid lisaks Vaimsele hingetarkusele tulevaste ja paraleel ilmade osas, mida me siin juhatame, on ka palju füüsilisi ja ravivaid omadusi, kui pikkamööda jupihaaval talvel näksida seda VÄGA meeldiva maitse ja lõhanga Üht Eesti kahtlematult, väärtuslikumat seent (Kui teravpaljak välja arvata ja mõned puuseened ka..)
https://www.google.ee/search?q=rahvameditsiin+k%C3%A4rbseseen&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=RzjJV9K2KY6r8weav5qIBQ#q=k%C3%A4rbseseen+tarvitamine+OR+ravi+OR+omadused+OR+kasutamine
https://www.google.ee/search?q=rahvameditsiin+k%C3%A4rbseseen&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=RzjJV9K2KY6r8weav5qIBQ#q=k%C3%A4rbseseen+tarvitamine+OR+ravi+OR+omadused+OR+kasutamine
https://www.google.ee/search?q=rahvameditsiin+k%C3%A4rbseseen&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=RzjJV9K2KY6r8weav5qIBQ#q=k%C3%A4rbseseen+tarvitamine+OR+ravi+OR+omadused+OR+kasutamine
2 September 2016 12:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
it is not like Your enemy, spy, some gang or thug member who WANT to shoot you would point gun on You, it is a freaking police, who extremely rarely can shoot you on face to face,
so it is MOST safe to turn around ad stop,
this option You not have in most situations when someone is pointing gun on You.. and they choose Opposite solution, that is KNOWINGLY most dangerous, and then blame massively cop around the world.. and state even allow to make some retarded protests on it... what a wussy's
all these people who come out to this protest, should have sprayed with some psychedelics to cure their mind, as they had to have something seriously wrong in their mindset if they join in with this mass madness, and they need to be changed, as the great danger to human evolution
put probably just commies used this situation, to make the hatred between these even more stronger... spreading more hate and straighten the anti state propaganda.
And am God worker(that means ABOVE state, "proper" anti-state, pro kingdom), half hippy, a bit anarchist, squatter, digital pirate, hermit like poor below poverty line a single 33 years one.. who have to take effort and stand FOR a State and Police,
for God sake!
how messed up must the world be then
seriously, stand for the pole gets harder and harder daily when retarderness is globally legalized norm with large amount of other faulty thinking's .
so it is MOST safe to turn around ad stop,
this option You not have in most situations when someone is pointing gun on You.. and they choose Opposite solution, that is KNOWINGLY most dangerous, and then blame massively cop around the world.. and state even allow to make some retarded protests on it... what a wussy's
all these people who come out to this protest, should have sprayed with some psychedelics to cure their mind, as they had to have something seriously wrong in their mindset if they join in with this mass madness, and they need to be changed, as the great danger to human evolution
put probably just commies used this situation, to make the hatred between these even more stronger... spreading more hate and straighten the anti state propaganda.
And am God worker(that means ABOVE state, "proper" anti-state, pro kingdom), half hippy, a bit anarchist, squatter, digital pirate, hermit like poor below poverty line a single 33 years one.. who have to take effort and stand FOR a State and Police,
for God sake!
how messed up must the world be then
seriously, stand for the pole gets harder and harder daily when retarderness is globally legalized norm with large amount of other faulty thinking's .
2 September 2016 07:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Police should have been shoot by US citizen, for wasting tax payer money, if they would not have take a shoot,
as police did not know, maybe he stabbed, killed some one, maybe extremely dangerous, why else one not stop..
and yes, if clever police, shoot in to butt.. but i guess it is not allowed for danger of missing and hitting other targets ..
so what can we do this is the guns we use right now, maybe in future there is better guns that will inject some psychedelics in to criminals as well, and all will be better in really next day ... but for now.. one have to realize.. if You are told to stop, and pointed a gun on You ... it is YOU option, to play with your life, not someones fault who shoot as a job tells one must. if they want to keep the job.
as police did not know, maybe he stabbed, killed some one, maybe extremely dangerous, why else one not stop..
and yes, if clever police, shoot in to butt.. but i guess it is not allowed for danger of missing and hitting other targets ..
so what can we do this is the guns we use right now, maybe in future there is better guns that will inject some psychedelics in to criminals as well, and all will be better in really next day ... but for now.. one have to realize.. if You are told to stop, and pointed a gun on You ... it is YOU option, to play with your life, not someones fault who shoot as a job tells one must. if they want to keep the job.
2 September 2016 07:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aliens liberal anti-human logic pisses me off
2 September 2016 07:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Üks naine on üle 70ne... üli usin raskustelevaatamata..
2 September 2016 07:17
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's photo.
If Your belief is Right,
You NEWER Alone,
but in extreme majority, in total numbers and knowing, that before and after you, from beginning to end, to new beginning, this is absolute ONLY true REAL truth, for Your species, and surrounding, ... you just one part, representing the truth.
Wolf who is alone, ...is most likely, diseased, mistaken or dead soon.
Rare .. only in extreme situations, correct wolf can be alone, and then... if one will not be able to find a pack, will be dead anyway.. with no one to pass the knowledge..
You NEWER Alone,
but in extreme majority, in total numbers and knowing, that before and after you, from beginning to end, to new beginning, this is absolute ONLY true REAL truth, for Your species, and surrounding, ... you just one part, representing the truth.
Wolf who is alone, ...is most likely, diseased, mistaken or dead soon.
Rare .. only in extreme situations, correct wolf can be alone, and then... if one will not be able to find a pack, will be dead anyway.. with no one to pass the knowledge..
2 September 2016 07:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
neid näinud psühedelses seisundis, ja seega saanöelda, et ikka päris energia sisse on koondatud, ...ega ma nii tuim, et tava silmaga ka vahest muudeinäe kui seda mida usud ja tead.. aga kui ikka kotroll rohud sees, siis on lihtne, vaatad 10 et eri pilti.. ja kuiikka näed,et üks ELAB ja hoopis elevamalt kui muu ümbruskond,siis on teada, et asi pole tavaline..
Mõne ikoon itegemine pea 4 kuud võib aega võtta,
olulistemate omad aastaid.
Kuid see sellesk ,arooniatest on jutt praegu
Mõne ikoon itegemine pea 4 kuud võib aega võtta,
olulistemate omad aastaid.
Kuid see sellesk ,arooniatest on jutt praegu
2 September 2016 07:04
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
there is perfectly good drugs and psychedelics, why mother did not provide this to ones kid, if she is proper parent and caring about ones sun
2 September 2016 06:50
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
freedom
2 September 2016 06:49
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
sad
2 September 2016 06:48
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
IN the factual, REAL sotry, should have been facts in a firs,
1) was he on drugs and why, why life was in this state and what was hes health
2) interview from police, was he attacking or how really did the death happen
3) family commentary, confirmation, and also explanation why one used drugs and what kind and how long, why was he not grown up to behave proper with law officers, what family discipline basic is missing, what was he doing in that place why was the arrest happening
then the story.
but it looks so "liberal" (meaning, purposely emotionally confusing, so facts would be hidden what really happened and agenda would be running in peoples mind, to feed the anger )
1) was he on drugs and why, why life was in this state and what was hes health
2) interview from police, was he attacking or how really did the death happen
3) family commentary, confirmation, and also explanation why one used drugs and what kind and how long, why was he not grown up to behave proper with law officers, what family discipline basic is missing, what was he doing in that place why was the arrest happening
then the story.
but it looks so "liberal" (meaning, purposely emotionally confusing, so facts would be hidden what really happened and agenda would be running in peoples mind, to feed the anger )
2 September 2016 06:47
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
Okey this is again some produced anti-state piece, with long emotional story , about a someone who happen to die while was arrested on high of PCP.
Why in a normal person even use this thing? What is the good ?
so basically what that means:
"Earlier this week, a medical examiner ruled Smith's death a homicide caused by sudden cardiac death complicated by acute cocaine toxicity while restrained with a contributing factor of compression of torso."
i mean one was not shoot, nor beaten.. one jsut happen to die, as a lot of people die on various wrong kind of drugs when they get panic mode .. and why was one arrested and attacked by police?
Probably one had no good manners and started to fight with police, had no teachings from parents how to behave with law people, or in situations like that.
There is many dirty cops, among tens of millions of good cops, but story like that, just help to hide the real evil and make people look like wimps, and will make sure, more, that if fake police kills some one, for real (not as it seems in there when one just die, that is happening) , then this will be ignored, as it will look again as communist anti state propaganda, for a reason to bring on stronger fascism. After ignorant youth will help to break also the good structures, that are protecting them from real evil. ...and hen they can bring on REALLY heavy guns, to sort out the real evil and people for good
Why in a normal person even use this thing? What is the good ?
so basically what that means:
"Earlier this week, a medical examiner ruled Smith's death a homicide caused by sudden cardiac death complicated by acute cocaine toxicity while restrained with a contributing factor of compression of torso."
i mean one was not shoot, nor beaten.. one jsut happen to die, as a lot of people die on various wrong kind of drugs when they get panic mode .. and why was one arrested and attacked by police?
Probably one had no good manners and started to fight with police, had no teachings from parents how to behave with law people, or in situations like that.
There is many dirty cops, among tens of millions of good cops, but story like that, just help to hide the real evil and make people look like wimps, and will make sure, more, that if fake police kills some one, for real (not as it seems in there when one just die, that is happening) , then this will be ignored, as it will look again as communist anti state propaganda, for a reason to bring on stronger fascism. After ignorant youth will help to break also the good structures, that are protecting them from real evil. ...and hen they can bring on REALLY heavy guns, to sort out the real evil and people for good
2 September 2016 06:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Liisa teeb veel reaalseid usu ikoone ka, koos vaimujõuga
1 September 2016 15:33
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
päris palju jah
1 September 2016 14:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
True thät bro!
1 September 2016 14:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
et tal koht alles jääks edasi ütlemiseks...
aga kui vähem ja vähem mehi ymber tema rääkida julgevad.. siis vähem ja vähem tal jääb võimalus midagi öelda ja inimesi päästa1 September 2016 14:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
need kes merkeli kallal iiksuvad, ise teda ei aita ja siis teda ründavad kui to planeedi heaks ja saksamaa hüveks midagi ilmselgelt teha proovib
niipalju ku seda võimalust sõnades tal lubatud anda1 September 2016 14:37
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Oi Oi... kudias Merkelil lubati seda öelda.. see ikka võimas naine.. viimastena veel hoiab saksamaad üli suurte viamsete jõudude vastu käputäie inimestega kes ta poolt julgeksid sõna võtta ja konservatiivsemat hinnangut anda, et naine ise ei peaks koledaid sõnu välja rääkima... kuid suurem osa nii mökk mökk...
ja siis ründavad ka veel kambas, kui naine midagi rääkida minevikus proovinud on... sellised peaks seinaäärde panema kui inimkonna vastased1 September 2016 14:36
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Liberalsus siis lihtsustatult: elusäilitavate arusaamade likvideerimine
või siis suts pikemalt
väärtushinnangute põhiste elusäilitavate põhimõtete unustama panemine,
ja seda lahti saab selgelt iga üks mitut omat pidi igale liberaalile ja demokraadile rääkida, kuid kas selle esimesepoolse lihtsa definitsiooniga on üldiselt kõik nõus ?
Sellise ühise arusaama peaks kokku leppima, mis lühike ja asja tõeselt kokkuvõttev ja samas mitte liiga piirav kuid kindlalt õiges suunas ja arusaaamises hoidev, isegi sellele, kes kunagi asja süvitsi pole uurinud.. kuid ainuüksi selgituse kaudu juba oskab aru saaada, millega tegu ja mida rääkida vaja1 September 2016 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
mure on veel selles, et mitmed inimesed, kes maalased, kes pole tulnukad, on ka liberaalid heas usus, et see midagi head, arusaaamata, et see inimliigi likvideerimise plaani reaalne kosmiliste plaanide tõsisem osa...
seega, kui keegi surmaliiduga pakti teeb, siis ta ju suht äärmuslik, maainimeste suhtes..1 September 2016 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
ime ka kui ei domineeriks see teema,
kuid selle hulgas võiksid avalikult olla reaalsed teemad "Kuidas likvideerida liberaalset genofondi" jms,
need oleks reaalsed teemad, miks liberaalid ise, geno instituudid norras kunagi avasid juba enne esimest maailmasõda ja siis teise ajaks, saksamaale hakkasid ka näpunäiteid andma...
kuigi jah.. punaste plaan oli ikkagi usklikute ja maiste inimeste genofondi likvideerimine1 September 2016 14:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Reformed Druids in Australia & New Zealand
We just cant "come up" with whatever we say, and imprint it to another soul for communicating,
seems yes, have to do that my self but just hoped, there is someone who knows someone who has had personal contact with someone who actually knows and feels their world,
you know, outside of human city Mhz
as you know, having been on ants or in beetles and some other worlds... or the worlds of Owls of many kinds.. there is another kind of feelings and principles there is to learn and to share, private, for them concerning only and for us Humankinds, or for their food1 September 2016 10:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Reformed Druids in Australia & New Zealand
Please stop that,1 September 2016 10:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Reformed Druids in Australia & New Zealand
Yes You can tell me Yours, but tell me then, if am would have mine... would have shared long time ago... this is Estonian way...1 September 2016 10:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Reformed Druids in Australia & New Zealand
Why would You think that it was shouting instead of whispering ?1 September 2016 10:46
Margus Meigo commented on Shimon Dayan's post.
Group: Reformed Druids in Australia & New Zealand
Thank You Shimon de Valencia,
These are also good to see what they say, but i was thinking more about DRUID info... the Soul and spiritual info about the bird, and what this bird World wants us to know1 September 2016 10:41
Margus Meigo replied to Jako Krull's comment.
Teelefoni vestluses olevad inimesed küsima peaksid st,
ning kuna meil siin kohe käepärast riigimehelik seadusesilm Mr. Jõks ka võtta, siis võiks veel tema käest uurida, et kuidas selle seaduslikusega siin on ja kas ta ise isiklikult annaks tuupi kui tema ekraanist sedasi pilti tehakse või tembeldaks ta selle puht seaduslikuks.
Kui asja eriti huvitavaks ajada, siis võiks ilma põhimõteteta, või see st ilma poolteta st Liberaalsete Põhimõtetega Jõnksi palgata postimehe tegelaste kohtusse andmise osas, et nod riiki laimasid, eetikat ja veel lisaks isiklikule solvangule (mis on privaatselt OKEY, aga kui see avalikustatakse, siis see ju suurem solvang ka Jõksi enda pihta, paari inimese asemel paarsada tuhat, peab nüüd mõtlema, miks on hea, et ta ei saanud..) kuid targema sedusemehena, kindlasti ta veel mitmeid muid nüansse leiab...
kuid jah, kuna ta erapooletu pidi olema südamelt, mis siiras oskus ja rspekt omas skalas, talle minu poolt, siis oleks sobilik ja riigile igati vajalik ta selle keisi lahendamiseks palgata mis iganes raha eest ja olenemata tulemusest, lihtsalt, seda tegu on vaja
ning kuna meil siin kohe käepärast riigimehelik seadusesilm Mr. Jõks ka võtta, siis võiks veel tema käest uurida, et kuidas selle seaduslikusega siin on ja kas ta ise isiklikult annaks tuupi kui tema ekraanist sedasi pilti tehakse või tembeldaks ta selle puht seaduslikuks.
Kui asja eriti huvitavaks ajada, siis võiks ilma põhimõteteta, või see st ilma poolteta st Liberaalsete Põhimõtetega Jõnksi palgata postimehe tegelaste kohtusse andmise osas, et nod riiki laimasid, eetikat ja veel lisaks isiklikule solvangule (mis on privaatselt OKEY, aga kui see avalikustatakse, siis see ju suurem solvang ka Jõksi enda pihta, paari inimese asemel paarsada tuhat, peab nüüd mõtlema, miks on hea, et ta ei saanud..) kuid targema sedusemehena, kindlasti ta veel mitmeid muid nüansse leiab...
kuid jah, kuna ta erapooletu pidi olema südamelt, mis siiras oskus ja rspekt omas skalas, talle minu poolt, siis oleks sobilik ja riigile igati vajalik ta selle keisi lahendamiseks palgata mis iganes raha eest ja olenemata tulemusest, lihtsalt, seda tegu on vaja
1 September 2016 09:43
Margus Meigo replied to Jako Krull's comment.
Jako on alati karmi iroonia vend olnud,
kuid jah, moni teine oleks seda päris siiralt mõelnud.
Muidugi saab ju teada kes postituse eetrissetegi, kes nõustus ja nuppu vajutas, ja siis nodeinimestega vaja provaatselt küsida, otse, (ka endal kaamera kaasas, kasvõi põues ikka..) et mis nad siis sellega motlesid, et kas nad motlesid ka samamoodi, hästi nagu meie või .... või mida nad mõtlesid ja kas põhimõtteid ka mingeid oli, mida järgisid...
kuid jah, moni teine oleks seda päris siiralt mõelnud.
Muidugi saab ju teada kes postituse eetrissetegi, kes nõustus ja nuppu vajutas, ja siis nodeinimestega vaja provaatselt küsida, otse, (ka endal kaamera kaasas, kasvõi põues ikka..) et mis nad siis sellega motlesid, et kas nad motlesid ka samamoodi, hästi nagu meie või .... või mida nad mõtlesid ja kas põhimõtteid ka mingeid oli, mida järgisid...
1 September 2016 09:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
siia sobiks kui Sa suure Kadakatee kiva medit pildi lingi postitaks, läheb teemaSse. Roosi Raudsepp
1 September 2016 09:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
People of What faith Commenting ?
1 September 2016 05:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
if someone is unable to make interview with Creatures or someone who oppose as their representative.. then there should be apology.. and THEN story..
1 September 2016 05:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
How You, as Estoniain, would feel, if someone in BBC talks about Yours.. and telling how is and how is and why.. but not asking any of our kind, what about this or that, or why is
1 September 2016 05:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
OKEY; why is called situation as "ANGRY ELVES"?
Not that them are some fluffy beings, but politically label them so in peoples mind ... global mind..
anyone asked ELF an interview before writing about ones?
Hmm... would be good start, innit?
":..The angry elves were suspected of causing a series of mishaps after the rock was covered over when workers cleared away the debris from a landslide, the Morgunbladid daily reported.
Iceland is no stranger to bending to the will of its elfin population.
Construction sites have previously been moved so as not to disturb the creatures and fishermen have refused to go to sea because of their warnings: in Iceland, elves are part of every day life.
Sveinn Zophoniasson, who works for the Bass road construction company, told the paper t"...
Not that them are some fluffy beings, but politically label them so in peoples mind ... global mind..
anyone asked ELF an interview before writing about ones?
Hmm... would be good start, innit?
":..The angry elves were suspected of causing a series of mishaps after the rock was covered over when workers cleared away the debris from a landslide, the Morgunbladid daily reported.
Iceland is no stranger to bending to the will of its elfin population.
Construction sites have previously been moved so as not to disturb the creatures and fishermen have refused to go to sea because of their warnings: in Iceland, elves are part of every day life.
Sveinn Zophoniasson, who works for the Bass road construction company, told the paper t"...
1 September 2016 05:37
Margus Meigo commented on Shimon Dayan's post.
Group: Reformed Druids in Australia & New Zealand
can someone share insights from this Being?1 September 2016 05:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
mis moodi see MINU album saab olla kui siia ei luba liusada MUL asju..
1 September 2016 05:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 September 2016 04:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eks see nagu jumalaga... Kord informeerib, kord puhastab... kord kannab... ja Kord laseb peal kõndida, kuid peaasi, et isemärkaksime, kes meid kandis ja kes meile akna avab, et üldse võimalus tekiks... ja ka see pole loplik, vaid suur kahepealine kotkas veel selles maailmas lendab või tavatuvi... mille koige eest monele saab teha kaitse,selles pole kysimus, aga kas see nüüd ja miks vajalik ühele putukale rohkem kui teisele, kui sellel putukal minskit erieri plane pole... hmm.. nii et jah.. ära oma tyhipaljalelootusele, st päästmisele ja päästetusele kyll looda, see ei sobi nii Jumalikule, targale rahvale ku iEestlased, selline kergeusklik kergeusk ja lootus ... mis meie keelis on öeldud ... lohutus... et ikka meie ise, looja ja ehk siis ELU osas toimetame lopuni nii sydames, maas, hinges kui lähedastes, KUid eelkige jah, uskudes!
1 September 2016 04:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
deemonkraatlikul st
1 September 2016 03:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see mis mingi kuningas inimeludega omal maal deemokraatlikul ajastul teeb on tema enda asi, ja ju teab paremini, kuid nagu juuksed.. püha armas jumal, kas siis keegi pole märganud neile sosistadagi, et sedasiei sobi kaamera ette jääda ju...
1 September 2016 03:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
juuksestiili
1 September 2016 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
täeisti jube, st,
Lubamatu stiili osas
Lubamatu stiili osas
1 September 2016 03:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kellele
1 September 2016 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jutumärkidesse jäi panematta, paremjavasak pooolsed, kuid noh, kes siin alati märgitada jõuab, see teab kes teab millest mida keda räägin ja miks
1 September 2016 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja seda ütlen ka Kiilakale endale, et teda austades, et loodan, et ta ka ise muga koos või ise kaamera ees tänab Eesti rahvast, piisava tarkuse eest, et nad Teda ei valinud.
Et seda soovin ma ta ja me inimeste suust küll kuuld,a kes ise piisavalttargad , et aru saavad, et see oleks ikka onnetus olnud...
ja kuidas siis ikkagi usaldati, ei olnud ju isegi Usuga seotud...
pole usuga seotud tahtnud olla.. ja ütleb, et pooli ei vali.. ja siis RIIGI etteteotsa...
vau, selle eest kindlasti jõnks ise tõnab, et me sellist jõnksatust oma eluvaimsel allakäigul ei teinud
Et seda soovin ma ta ja me inimeste suust küll kuuld,a kes ise piisavalttargad , et aru saavad, et see oleks ikka onnetus olnud...
ja kuidas siis ikkagi usaldati, ei olnud ju isegi Usuga seotud...
pole usuga seotud tahtnud olla.. ja ütleb, et pooli ei vali.. ja siis RIIGI etteteotsa...
vau, selle eest kindlasti jõnks ise tõnab, et me sellist jõnksatust oma eluvaimsel allakäigul ei teinud
1 September 2016 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga siit kindel tõestus näha, et Taavi ÕIGET asja ajab vähemalt,
Et see nagu postiivne tõestus nii vasak kui parempoolsetele, et neil, meil ühine eesmärk,
eesmärgituid inimesi
kes avalikult öelnud nüüüd, et nad koos karvadega jätsid maha ka poolte valimise, et nad avalikult POOLTE vastu... et siis nagu kujuta ette kui selline voim koos advokaadi teamdiste ja kontaktidega oleks saanud presidendiligi.. see oleks nagu happe kallamine põue... ja mitte selle hea LSD happe..
Et see nagu postiivne tõestus nii vasak kui parempoolsetele, et neil, meil ühine eesmärk,
eesmärgituid inimesi
kes avalikult öelnud nüüüd, et nad koos karvadega jätsid maha ka poolte valimise, et nad avalikult POOLTE vastu... et siis nagu kujuta ette kui selline voim koos advokaadi teamdiste ja kontaktidega oleks saanud presidendiligi.. see oleks nagu happe kallamine põue... ja mitte selle hea LSD happe..
1 September 2016 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to Jako Krull's comment.
ja... "ajakirjanduslike põhimõtteid"
mis juba iseenesest, on oxymoron
mis juba iseenesest, on oxymoron
1 September 2016 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to Jako Krull's comment.
:D
1 September 2016 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
You doing Great Mark
1 September 2016 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
most of the psychedelics is good to go in God's book of Law
for helping self and others reasons to help the plan of God
for helping self and others reasons to help the plan of God
1 September 2016 02:50
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
This is my Trip also,
but i hope, You promote some Drugs, proper "drugs" to these kids there so we can grow to be trusted humans on this planet,
as they know in the end.. was it for real or for show
but i hope, You promote some Drugs, proper "drugs" to these kids there so we can grow to be trusted humans on this planet,
as they know in the end.. was it for real or for show
1 September 2016 02:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
mis moodi nad kolmandas isikus endast räägivad
30 August 2016 18:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
on ikka pätikad (mitte need Naised)
Vaid nagu need kes lükkavad edasi vältimatut.
Tuleb ja juhtub see siis ikkagi ,et likvideerime anonüümse hääletamise ära, et mehed hakkaksid meheks, ja ausaks
Vaid nagu need kes lükkavad edasi vältimatut.
Tuleb ja juhtub see siis ikkagi ,et likvideerime anonüümse hääletamise ära, et mehed hakkaksid meheks, ja ausaks
30 August 2016 17:35
Margus Meigo commented on Teekond soovitud armastuseni's photo.
wau
30 August 2016 17:09
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
:D
Jah, sest seened aitavad näha, kuidas inimesedtegelikult on
Jah, sest seened aitavad näha, kuidas inimesedtegelikult on
30 August 2016 17:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuigi, see naine täitsa meeldib mulle stiililt ja jutult ja olekult, inimesena
30 August 2016 16:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Ullumaja
sobramehe poolest30 August 2016 08:59
Margus Meigo commented on Raul Vaine's post.
Group: Ullumaja
Kujuta ette, kui seda teha inimesele kes just LSD d võtnud on30 August 2016 08:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
RUmeenias: Partnerlusseminar "Youth employment and entrepreneurship" Rumeenias
29. oktoober - 7. november toimub Baile Tusnad'is Rumeenias partnerlusseminar, mille eesmärgiks on luua uusi projekte ettevõtluse ja tööhõive vallas. Kandideerima on oodatud teemast huvitatud aktiivsed noored, noortejuhid ja noortega töötavad inimesed (18+). Eesti osalejatele on 1 koht. Osalemine projektis on tasuta (majutus, toit, tegevused), samuti kaetakse reisikulud 275 € ulatuses
https://www.facebook.com/Seiklejad.Org/posts/1304225416254813
29. oktoober - 7. november toimub Baile Tusnad'is Rumeenias partnerlusseminar, mille eesmärgiks on luua uusi projekte ettevõtluse ja tööhõive vallas. Kandideerima on oodatud teemast huvitatud aktiivsed noored, noortejuhid ja noortega töötavad inimesed (18+). Eesti osalejatele on 1 koht. Osalemine projektis on tasuta (majutus, toit, tegevused), samuti kaetakse reisikulud 275 € ulatuses
https://www.facebook.com/Seiklejad.Org/posts/1304225416254813
30 August 2016 08:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Heleri Alles "Heleri Alles chose a specific audience for this post. Only people in that audience will be able to see this when you share it."
Hey Hey, sheery vabaks : )
Hey Hey, sheery vabaks : )
30 August 2016 08:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Seda teksti promosin ma valitsuse ees, keset usupäeva kellegitele tõsistele taolistele habemetele, suunates demostratiivselt Eesti valitsuse majale, kui kirikust väljusime
http://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2013/12/ecumenical-patriarch-bartholomew-not.html
Kus need parimad vastused siis ikka on... ega asjata Kirik seest sama roosa ole kui valitsus väljast...
Olen ilus, loomulikult!
http://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2013/12/ecumenical-patriarch-bartholomew-not.html
Kus need parimad vastused siis ikka on... ega asjata Kirik seest sama roosa ole kui valitsus väljast...
Olen ilus, loomulikult!
http://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2013/12/ecumenical-patriarch-bartholomew-not.html
30 August 2016 07:37
Margus Meigo replied to Elmo Puidet's comment.
Kui aeg sellelmaal, siis tuleb saata ka
30 August 2016 07:25
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Praun's comment.
Chris Praun nu seni kuni veel inimene midagi tahab, siis vast võimalus teda suunata hingesuunas.
30 August 2016 07:24
Margus Meigo replied to Albert Barley's comment.
digit coins we loving it, can carry any amounts, with not much of a weight...
But we will be a bit screwed when we all in these coins and some other star system computers come with pocket money few squares more larger numbers as total of our system max out... well, that will be kind of like Amir told "We will buy planet back!" ... just lets hope investors have greatest interest to advance of what ever humans are made in a perfect potential
But we will be a bit screwed when we all in these coins and some other star system computers come with pocket money few squares more larger numbers as total of our system max out... well, that will be kind of like Amir told "We will buy planet back!" ... just lets hope investors have greatest interest to advance of what ever humans are made in a perfect potential
30 August 2016 07:23
Margus Meigo replied to Marko Karin's comment.
Muidu paar kilo viiesajaseid, täpsemini 2240 grammi on täpselt 2000 rahatähte üks million eurtsi.
(kui milli kokku saada 10ne eurostega, siis see kaaluks 72 kilo, see juba suht ebamugav kaasas kanda!)
Ja muide veel:
1 sendi 2 kilo on 460 Eur
2 sendi 2 kilo, 612 Eur
5 sendi 2 kilo, 784 Eur
10 sendi 2 kilo, 820 Eur
20 sendi 2 kilo, 1148 Eur
50 sendi 2 kilo, 1560 Eur
1 Eur 2 kilo, 1500 Eur
2 Eur 2 kilo= 1700 Eur
Siin miskid arvutused siis muude rahade arvutamiseks:
Sentide arvutus: http://www.rubinghscience.org/surv/euroweights1.html
Raha arvutus: http://www.fondations.net/weight-from-500-euro-note-informative/
(kui milli kokku saada 10ne eurostega, siis see kaaluks 72 kilo, see juba suht ebamugav kaasas kanda!)
Ja muide veel:
1 sendi 2 kilo on 460 Eur
2 sendi 2 kilo, 612 Eur
5 sendi 2 kilo, 784 Eur
10 sendi 2 kilo, 820 Eur
20 sendi 2 kilo, 1148 Eur
50 sendi 2 kilo, 1560 Eur
1 Eur 2 kilo, 1500 Eur
2 Eur 2 kilo= 1700 Eur
Siin miskid arvutused siis muude rahade arvutamiseks:
Sentide arvutus: http://www.rubinghscience.org/surv/euroweights1.html
Raha arvutus: http://www.fondations.net/weight-from-500-euro-note-informative/
30 August 2016 07:18
Margus Meigo replied to Marko Karin's comment.
Raha arvutus: http://www.fondations.net/weight-from-500-euro-note-informative/
http://www.fondations.net/weight-from-500-euro-note-informative/
30 August 2016 07:18
Margus Meigo replied to Ilbert Uljas's comment.
oh teid..
30 August 2016 07:08
Margus Meigo commented on Janar Einula's post.
Enda oma?
30 August 2016 06:37
Margus Meigo commented on Karel Rahu Karikatuurid & Šaržid's photo.
Kas maksab ka palju selle pildi tegemine ?
30 August 2016 06:36
Margus Meigo commented on Culture Wars's photo.
Yes and guy is in fault
30 August 2016 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Praun's comment.
Ja alati soovin, et sama ka minuga tehakse, austusest-hoolivusest enda, kodu, teiste, vaimu ja minu suhtes.
30 August 2016 01:52
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Praun's comment.
Üldiselt, kui keegi mu või mu sõbra poole tuleb ebapuhtana, siis ma saadan ta viivitamatult vannituppa, ja lasenjalanõud kilekotti panna, või siis koos jalgadega kotti, demostratiivselt, kui teine kasvatamatusest või kes teab mis foobia pärast seda teha ei suuda. Võid nii mõnegi mu tuttava käest küsida..
Sokid ka samas lasen ära pesta või pesen ise kasvõi, sobra sokid, kui ta ei oska, ning kiir kuivatan rätikuvahel väänates välja, et tal kuigi pool rõskete, kuid vähemalt puhtate sokkide ja uute oskustega edasi läheb.
Sobra jalgugi ise pestnud kui too häbist ja purjus olekust polnud nõus seda ise tegema, ega ma siis ei hakka ju oma tuba rikkuma ja vaimuõhku, parem teen 10 minutit tööd.
Mis on täitsa normaalne.
Sokid ka samas lasen ära pesta või pesen ise kasvõi, sobra sokid, kui ta ei oska, ning kiir kuivatan rätikuvahel väänates välja, et tal kuigi pool rõskete, kuid vähemalt puhtate sokkide ja uute oskustega edasi läheb.
Sobra jalgugi ise pestnud kui too häbist ja purjus olekust polnud nõus seda ise tegema, ega ma siis ei hakka ju oma tuba rikkuma ja vaimuõhku, parem teen 10 minutit tööd.
Mis on täitsa normaalne.
30 August 2016 01:51
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Praun's comment.
Nu aga teeme siis nii : )
30 August 2016 01:47
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Praun's comment.
Nu nagu..
29 August 2016 21:45
Margus Meigo commented on Chris Praun's post.
Ma mõtlesin,et siis emo
29 August 2016 21:42
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Praun's comment.
Minult ka ?
29 August 2016 21:41
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Nu ma pakun, Sa ütle
29 August 2016 21:28
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
aga siis mille eest ja kui palju ?
29 August 2016 20:01
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Praun's comment.
Jup,
https://goworkabit.ee/img/verologo.gif
https://goworkabit.ee/img/verologo.gif
https://goworkabit.ee/img/verologo.gif
29 August 2016 20:00
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Nu Bills
29 August 2016 19:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Veel
https://www.facebook.com/reelika.poldmann/posts/10154613754624406?notif_t=notify_me¬if_id=1472489103374382
https://www.facebook.com/reelika.poldmann/posts/10154613754624406?notif_t=notify_me¬if_id=1472489103374382
29 August 2016 19:45
Margus Meigo commented on Mati Kiisler's post.
Group: Bioenergeetika Kursused Eestis
Väga huvitav29 August 2016 17:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Bioenergeetika Kursused Eestis
alates piiblist kuni perekonnani, eelkõige Naise tegeliku Matriarhaatliku olemuse kõrvalejätmine ja mehe misjooni juhtimise pool-kohustus29 August 2016 17:05
Margus Meigo commented on Mati Kiisler's post.
Group: Bioenergeetika Kursused Eestis
Lihtsalt kantke hoolt, et eriagendid teid ära ei märgista, nähtamatu juhtimise tarvis.
On väga vähe olemas Selliseid üritus, kus puuduks suur-impeerialik, riiklik ja vaimuliku huvidega agente inimestena ja inimeste nahas ja väljaspool seda.
Ja eelkõige, õigeim juhtimine on nähtamatu, mis põhineb teatud moraalide teistsugusel interpreteerimisel29 August 2016 17:04
Margus Meigo commented on Marek Merimäe's post.
oh.. i thought, for real..
29 August 2016 17:01
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
is ma muidu ajaks ?
Igal ühel on küsida võimalik, millest nad ka aru saada tahavad.
Igal ühel on küsida võimalik, millest nad ka aru saada tahavad.
29 August 2016 16:33
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
yah
29 August 2016 16:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but still, as looking like skeptical way, easy to make scam like that, nice trick.. but to take in to account personal experience and that it has not been jet proven as scam..
Paranoia one way, and naive another way, being connected one way and being not aware of schemes another way.. what to choose.
Hey.. my life at least for sure, no one should be able to copy, there must be one original, right? !
Paranoia one way, and naive another way, being connected one way and being not aware of schemes another way.. what to choose.
Hey.. my life at least for sure, no one should be able to copy, there must be one original, right? !
29 August 2016 14:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kind of reminds me a story, when going to England, and coming back, 2 times i was identified as "for sure" someone who they meet yesterday, ... in a country where i just arrived hours ago, (one time with a car hiking and another time with bus to prove a time... i was thrown out from a one gas station for "what i did yesterday".)
Okey, i can get the twin thing, that i can jew,... but what about, JUST before me, in a county where i was drive by... 2 TIMES ! (well, at least, not counting the times where that has been mentioned to me by people expressions and talks, and cues.. just the ones where people was ready to enter in to conflict for "why i say is not so..." ... i mean i have really weird accent, another bone structure, not usual hair cover or behavior.. and to confuse me ?).
Anyway, i wanna see the one, unless it is the spiritual twin who "we should not meet" ... for whatever reason. Or was it another way around.. answer varies from who to ask.
Okey, i can get the twin thing, that i can jew,... but what about, JUST before me, in a county where i was drive by... 2 TIMES ! (well, at least, not counting the times where that has been mentioned to me by people expressions and talks, and cues.. just the ones where people was ready to enter in to conflict for "why i say is not so..." ... i mean i have really weird accent, another bone structure, not usual hair cover or behavior.. and to confuse me ?).
Anyway, i wanna see the one, unless it is the spiritual twin who "we should not meet" ... for whatever reason. Or was it another way around.. answer varies from who to ask.
29 August 2016 14:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Sara from Sweden found Shannon from Ireland on TwinStrangers.com after they both had signed up to the site. We offered to bring them together in Ireland’s capital city Dublin for one of our special doppelgänger meet-ups. Watch Sara and Shannon come face-to-face for the first time in what they call an 'unforgettable experience'. "
https://twinstrangers.net/twin-strangers-exist
https://twinstrangers.net/twin-strangers-exist
http://twinstrangers.com/
29 August 2016 14:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
do not tell retarded jokes then bastard and .. parents..
29 August 2016 09:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
seaduslikult
29 August 2016 09:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi point jääb ikka samaks, et sellised motted on inimestel
29 August 2016 09:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aga pästmisest ei tulnud jah suurt midagi välja, küll aga vast mingi operaator sai kas naerda või mõtelda
29 August 2016 09:49
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
kohe jube paigast..
29 August 2016 09:48
Margus Meigo replied to Joel Friedrich Steinfeldt's comment.
Liialt tihti see normiks kujunenud jah
29 August 2016 09:48
Margus Meigo replied to Anti Kerdo's comment.
voi siis lollitavad, vastavad emailile paarile ja siis ignoorivad.
aga eks kriminaalide aeg ka loppeb otsa, ja väärastanute väärastused massskaalas
aga eks kriminaalide aeg ka loppeb otsa, ja väärastanute väärastused massskaalas
29 August 2016 09:47
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's photo.
Hooly :D
26 August 2016 21:35
Margus Meigo replied to Tashko Tashev's comment.
can you imagine if they would be....this would be to big failure, if someone will reveal it, it would be one time , some one kidnaps and as it is possible to do it.. they would have full power over America structure then, when proven.. as there is other species, who would be able to do it You know, even humans if they took some LSD
Did You report jet, how strongly balls these humans had, to make proper CNN CNNMoney section (it is still a blue section), of things, secrets, that people will get life in prison, if they have one bottle with them:
Look full series: https://www.money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/ (really big names on that video)
I am delighted, that i can eve share it here (but BBC keeps making ONLY negative news about it, as they are RED ... when CNN Heroes the CNNMoney department is blue... also in colors)
here is another CNN story, to show they not afraid the global control of pushing people way, from opening eyes: :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5C82-CbUrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ06WNAXuAw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vex0rPyU_k8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-5ad3ruQ2Y
Also look up Ero wid.com Experiences section from google and ask extra from me if needed.
And also one only near documentary what i can find from net that is not a propaganda by people who have not experienced it them self: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xfe7g-3Xuk
Did You report jet, how strongly balls these humans had, to make proper CNN CNNMoney section (it is still a blue section), of things, secrets, that people will get life in prison, if they have one bottle with them:
Look full series: https://www.money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/ (really big names on that video)
I am delighted, that i can eve share it here (but BBC keeps making ONLY negative news about it, as they are RED ... when CNN Heroes the CNNMoney department is blue... also in colors)
here is another CNN story, to show they not afraid the global control of pushing people way, from opening eyes: :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5C82-CbUrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ06WNAXuAw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vex0rPyU_k8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-5ad3ruQ2Y
Also look up Ero wid.com Experiences section from google and ask extra from me if needed.
And also one only near documentary what i can find from net that is not a propaganda by people who have not experienced it them self: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xfe7g-3Xuk
22 August 2016 13:36
Margus Meigo replied to Patrick Melody's comment.
and do not say so harsh words.. think about it.
Make better label then "demo-crat" (krat is in Estonia the one small one for working in devil and staling your resources.. so in this way it seems to be...)
but just to many people under that label, extend it "democrat who..." and then it sounds more reasonable
Make better label then "demo-crat" (krat is in Estonia the one small one for working in devil and staling your resources.. so in this way it seems to be...)
but just to many people under that label, extend it "democrat who..." and then it sounds more reasonable
22 August 2016 13:30
Margus Meigo replied to Tashko Tashev's comment.
(this meant under Bush post but will share in here..) can you imagine if they would be....this would be to big failure, if someone will reveal it, it would be one time , some one kidnaps and as it is possible to do it.. they would have full power over America structure then, when proven.. as there is other species, who would be able to do it You know, even humans if they took some LSD
Did You report jet, how strongly balls these humans had, to make proper CNN Money section (it is still a blue section), of things, secrets, that people will get life in prison, if they have one bottle with them:
Look full series: money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
I am delighted, that i can eve share it here (but BBC keeps making ONLY negative news about it, as they are RED ... when CNN Heroes the CNNMoney department is blue... also in colors)
Did You report jet, how strongly balls these humans had, to make proper CNN Money section (it is still a blue section), of things, secrets, that people will get life in prison, if they have one bottle with them:
Look full series: money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
I am delighted, that i can eve share it here (but BBC keeps making ONLY negative news about it, as they are RED ... when CNN Heroes the CNNMoney department is blue... also in colors)
22 August 2016 13:23
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's post.
They are interesting for sure... but as long they not publicly do not promote natural psychedelics, they can not be fully trusted jet, as being aware what they do
22 August 2016 13:17
Margus Meigo replied to Tashko Tashev's comment.
well, bush is no reptilian, easy to see the human vibe in him,
Reptilians no so silly to put them self on positions like that
Reptilians no so silly to put them self on positions like that
22 August 2016 13:09
Margus Meigo replied to KC Hicks's comment.
be careful what You wish for...
at leas on peaceful slavery as right now, we can think out, how to bring our self out from it..
as we have near full access to all we need,
and this what our heavenly side is waiting for,,, for us to wake up.. as if we do not.. then we are used against them (against good), easily
at leas on peaceful slavery as right now, we can think out, how to bring our self out from it..
as we have near full access to all we need,
and this what our heavenly side is waiting for,,, for us to wake up.. as if we do not.. then we are used against them (against good), easily
22 August 2016 13:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I wil calm down now..
22 August 2016 13:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this was meant to last post, about Rothschild etc, who WILL become proper Jews, as this order will be put on them,
including all movie directors who produce crap and news media owners who allow lies, they will be suppressed under proper Jewish law, as they not know jet, what responsibility they took, with their heritage. But time comes.
And then, all will be turned upside down..
Also, many of their clan, is sensire believers, of Atlantis and they know, that many species of humans, are from partly, from another seed, ..soon they know also, who in another time, from the Est side, battled on Atlantis, when Atlantis on height started to produce species what we, older ones, did not need nor allow, ... but that's another story..
Kind of like folk story for now..
But of-course, we can entertain our self with all this kind of information as well:
http://www.legend-of-atlantis.com/elia.htm
http://www.tribwatch.com/nazi.htm
http://www.human-resonance.org/life_readings.html
(democracy is so no one is responsible, and shadow can rule.. and guide humans minds.. but when real kings come.. then they HAVE to take full responsibility, on current media time.. and love for full.. but who would allow that... as every king knows, their real power comes from healthy loving people and land, only. And from good relationships, that also, reflect if one is loved by ones own people. Fake king and rulers, can not do in these time..this why RoMAN-Empire changed their public appearance few hundred years ago by using France and some other.. )
Easy to go insane of it, if we take who ever side, and do something else, then focusing PROPER nature and human-loving Kingdoms, World-leader, Matriarchy and ...
including all movie directors who produce crap and news media owners who allow lies, they will be suppressed under proper Jewish law, as they not know jet, what responsibility they took, with their heritage. But time comes.
And then, all will be turned upside down..
Also, many of their clan, is sensire believers, of Atlantis and they know, that many species of humans, are from partly, from another seed, ..soon they know also, who in another time, from the Est side, battled on Atlantis, when Atlantis on height started to produce species what we, older ones, did not need nor allow, ... but that's another story..
Kind of like folk story for now..
But of-course, we can entertain our self with all this kind of information as well:
http://www.legend-of-atlantis.com/elia.htm
http://www.tribwatch.com/nazi.htm
http://www.human-resonance.org/life_readings.html
(democracy is so no one is responsible, and shadow can rule.. and guide humans minds.. but when real kings come.. then they HAVE to take full responsibility, on current media time.. and love for full.. but who would allow that... as every king knows, their real power comes from healthy loving people and land, only. And from good relationships, that also, reflect if one is loved by ones own people. Fake king and rulers, can not do in these time..this why RoMAN-Empire changed their public appearance few hundred years ago by using France and some other.. )
Easy to go insane of it, if we take who ever side, and do something else, then focusing PROPER nature and human-loving Kingdoms, World-leader, Matriarchy and ...
http://www.legend-of-atlantis.com/elia.htm
22 August 2016 13:04
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's post.
To know more, about proper Jew thinking, not the ones who just show off with their bloodlines or relations, then look up from Youtube, the
" Rabbi Friedman " - for now, one of the only one, from REAL bloodline who tells more REAL way what they are ACTUALLY about, if You got mind and time to hear, he go hundreds of videos on various channels.
Wonder, why some "jew investigators" have not jet noticed him..but bring out some beardless, cut beard half leftist fake political jews.. instead, the REAL thing
Also, here is basic ABC about REAL sex topic, from Jews:
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
https://www.youtube.com/user/manisfriedman/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/11213org/videos?flow=grid&view=0&sort=p (there is "religion is harmful for your health" talk also, from respected wizard Rabbi, from who other rabbis become to ask advice on most deep questions )
" Rabbi Friedman " - for now, one of the only one, from REAL bloodline who tells more REAL way what they are ACTUALLY about, if You got mind and time to hear, he go hundreds of videos on various channels.
Wonder, why some "jew investigators" have not jet noticed him..but bring out some beardless, cut beard half leftist fake political jews.. instead, the REAL thing
Also, here is basic ABC about REAL sex topic, from Jews:
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
https://www.youtube.com/user/manisfriedman/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/11213org/videos?flow=grid&view=0&sort=p (there is "religion is harmful for your health" talk also, from respected wizard Rabbi, from who other rabbis become to ask advice on most deep questions )
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
22 August 2016 12:53
Margus Meigo replied to Tashko Tashev's comment.
That is good group to be on one.
Starting to see light on Roths-childs much more, (it is a label u know) after they started to do some spiritual cleaning and looking up again, their Jewish roots, not the ones with a tie.. but the proper, matriarchal ones.,
Starting to see light on Roths-childs much more, (it is a label u know) after they started to do some spiritual cleaning and looking up again, their Jewish roots, not the ones with a tie.. but the proper, matriarchal ones.,
22 August 2016 12:44
Margus Meigo replied to Tashko Tashev's comment.
does not need to be rocket scientist, to know that.
...can he really be a good friend ?
Or will they say that for political reasons, to leave stain on her?
...can he really be a good friend ?
Or will they say that for political reasons, to leave stain on her?
22 August 2016 12:42
Margus Meigo replied to Tashko Tashev's comment.
Well, we know that before long time,
but this guy needs some spiritual healing..
but this guy needs some spiritual healing..
22 August 2016 12:41
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's post.
I love her acting
between so many beings and savages, to stay on foot and smile.. and to play with commies.. well, we will see, what time will come, and for sure not, the one, that is shown in one post down,
just because, we know, she can take all force, and eliminate, what is evil, for good .. whatever the cost, if needed and no other option given, this is how women's are, you know that.
Take her as radical grandmother, with smile on the face, before she slap you with a stick when you step over the border to many times, but when she does, she will not warn... but learn first, what kind of daemonzki She is dealing with.. and can she use some other powers first, to eliminate threat.. well, we can dream
between so many beings and savages, to stay on foot and smile.. and to play with commies.. well, we will see, what time will come, and for sure not, the one, that is shown in one post down,
just because, we know, she can take all force, and eliminate, what is evil, for good .. whatever the cost, if needed and no other option given, this is how women's are, you know that.
Take her as radical grandmother, with smile on the face, before she slap you with a stick when you step over the border to many times, but when she does, she will not warn... but learn first, what kind of daemonzki She is dealing with.. and can she use some other powers first, to eliminate threat.. well, we can dream
22 August 2016 12:40
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's post.
This planet is doomed as long we not agree on to, who will be the leader of Earth, who can give response, when other species want to talk with as as one united species..
as long we not able to do even this little thing, on global media time... they will newer let us free, as they look as as children with out a head,
as this way, we can not be trusted,as any other species can come, and deal with one and another side of humans and battle them against one and another ... and terrible it is, when there is sides opposite who have outer earth powers...
this is basic, if You think about it, proper globally (galactic-ally glob-ally ) .. who will team with who.. in the end.. and for what reason.. some want our DNA, some our babies, some our energy some our plants, some our minerals, some our soul, some our pleasure, some our wisdom, some our body parts and different kind of energies, some want us as playmates, partners and some as friends for sorting out entire space and all time corners, some want us to know what we are... but do we know, who we want to tam up and why ?
Can we trust our own species yet, can team of humans .. understand, about the need of love for earth and wife, can we agree globally on SOME issues with out worry, that if someone is against it, then they not a part of Human species agenda.
When we grow up to real worlds ? When we realize, that we can move in time and space (with no metal slow rackets)? When we feel love of God?
as long we not able to do even this little thing, on global media time... they will newer let us free, as they look as as children with out a head,
as this way, we can not be trusted,as any other species can come, and deal with one and another side of humans and battle them against one and another ... and terrible it is, when there is sides opposite who have outer earth powers...
this is basic, if You think about it, proper globally (galactic-ally glob-ally ) .. who will team with who.. in the end.. and for what reason.. some want our DNA, some our babies, some our energy some our plants, some our minerals, some our soul, some our pleasure, some our wisdom, some our body parts and different kind of energies, some want us as playmates, partners and some as friends for sorting out entire space and all time corners, some want us to know what we are... but do we know, who we want to tam up and why ?
Can we trust our own species yet, can team of humans .. understand, about the need of love for earth and wife, can we agree globally on SOME issues with out worry, that if someone is against it, then they not a part of Human species agenda.
When we grow up to real worlds ? When we realize, that we can move in time and space (with no metal slow rackets)? When we feel love of God?
22 August 2016 12:36
Margus Meigo replied to Patrick Melody's comment.
question is, WOULD he have done it,
out of hes free time, when he would not want positive polls?
Would he REALLY want to do it from hes own money, and time, when no one sees?
This is the question, is people do good for good, or for gain
out of hes free time, when he would not want positive polls?
Would he REALLY want to do it from hes own money, and time, when no one sees?
This is the question, is people do good for good, or for gain
22 August 2016 12:30
Margus Meigo replied to Gary Cook's comment.
Alex knows well, that Trump is what he is (trump for Hillary) and that no way in serious world, USA would not trust his country with no political experiment people hands (well. .. that reminds me one Hollywood actor...in muscles, but perhaps he was exception.. )
I have not really seen, Trump promoted TO positive way here, so that is releaf actually.
After all, if You know, that man is not knowingly working against Your land, but just because out of arrogance, then it is not so bad to promote business man a little bit,
But when we take barney or some other more suspicions minds..
I have not really seen, Trump promoted TO positive way here, so that is releaf actually.
After all, if You know, that man is not knowingly working against Your land, but just because out of arrogance, then it is not so bad to promote business man a little bit,
But when we take barney or some other more suspicions minds..
22 August 2016 12:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(when loving women, becomes norm)
22 August 2016 12:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Carolyn Lemaster Bohner well, yes, AS Christ love for church, as he him self .. only time i can remember, when he go to Church, he got totally pissed off.
And started to sort out wrong things
So should man, clean out HES house and sort out ALL wrong things there, not leave there some wrong kind of thinking or behaviors
But now, man even not able to know how to stand for their land, talking about laving wife proper, that is much bigger and harder job to do correct all life, if not from proper family.... well, perhaps in future, when it becomes new norm.
And started to sort out wrong things
So should man, clean out HES house and sort out ALL wrong things there, not leave there some wrong kind of thinking or behaviors
But now, man even not able to know how to stand for their land, talking about laving wife proper, that is much bigger and harder job to do correct all life, if not from proper family.... well, perhaps in future, when it becomes new norm.
22 August 2016 12:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Patrick Melody women do not "try to do"
but they HAVE TO because man do not DO what they suppose to do, this is SHAME for a man, that we have lost our lead, and do so bad job, for protecting country from wimps, and commies, that they have to come and sort it out for us, as a sing, "man get to f work! For GOOD! Not for just slave money.."
And under commies am not mean, nostalgic commies, but the ones, who are from homo Greek-Roman and Wiking bloodlines, who has been raped and killing and slaving us, and controlling from beginning of our new times
but they HAVE TO because man do not DO what they suppose to do, this is SHAME for a man, that we have lost our lead, and do so bad job, for protecting country from wimps, and commies, that they have to come and sort it out for us, as a sing, "man get to f work! For GOOD! Not for just slave money.."
And under commies am not mean, nostalgic commies, but the ones, who are from homo Greek-Roman and Wiking bloodlines, who has been raped and killing and slaving us, and controlling from beginning of our new times
22 August 2016 12:22
Margus Meigo replied to Maryam Vela's comment.
this is like ... umm first time in 4-5 years
22 August 2016 12:19
Margus Meigo replied to Maryam Vela's comment.
For a change, i will try to work now for one week, to pay for my utilities, that i started to use, for more comfortable life in last month.
Work would be full night backing some heavy stuff in a freezer
took some drugs and thought "why not.. lets do some work"
so will see
Work would be full night backing some heavy stuff in a freezer
took some drugs and thought "why not.. lets do some work"
so will see
22 August 2016 12:18
Margus Meigo replied to Maryam Vela's comment.
Sweet u!
22 August 2016 12:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei, ei ikka vist ei ole ka slatit, lahja mämm siis
22 August 2016 12:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sellest vist oead ja vb riis on ainukesena söödav,
mingi slatileht vist ka teoreetiliselt paistab
mingi slatileht vist ka teoreetiliselt paistab
22 August 2016 12:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
irww :D
Sa oled vist kõige huvitavam lihasööja keda tean. Vastupidavaim ka. Aga noh, see haru juhtus, selliseid versioone palju pole.
Kuid jah, silo ja liha vahe on, et kui sa seda silo sööd aasta aega järjest, elad kenasti,
kui aga paljast liha, siis enamus inimesi juba kuuajaga surnud, kui nad silo mis iganes moel vahepeale ei saa, et lihas olevaid mürke kehast välja viia ja tegelike toitaineid anda
Sa oled vist kõige huvitavam lihasööja keda tean. Vastupidavaim ka. Aga noh, see haru juhtus, selliseid versioone palju pole.
Kuid jah, silo ja liha vahe on, et kui sa seda silo sööd aasta aega järjest, elad kenasti,
kui aga paljast liha, siis enamus inimesi juba kuuajaga surnud, kui nad silo mis iganes moel vahepeale ei saa, et lihas olevaid mürke kehast välja viia ja tegelike toitaineid anda
22 August 2016 12:14
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
Haa, great familiar floor :p
22 August 2016 11:19
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
Muidugi me eriti ei aja kurku miskit, sest sööme õnneks inimestele loodud toitu :D
22 August 2016 11:17
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
äh,,, see ju ära solgitud, looma raipe tykid täidiseks sisse pandud. Kurb
22 August 2016 11:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Põhi loogika liberaalidel on, et "kui ei joo siis selles asi"
"Kui jood siis selles asi"
"aga kui ei joo, ja meeli arendavaid aineid kasutad, mida ise oma ajuga ei julge" Nu siis peab selles asi olema (ja siis joob suurema osa ajast, ise edasi ja imeb suitsu, nagu punased korporatsioonid ja vaimud käsivad vaimuvaeseid, või masenduses olijaid (masendus milles süüdistatakse teisi), kiites kui tark ta ise on,
et ta ikka "neid muid asju ei kasuta" )
ja oleks see väikese gruppi puhul, siis poleks märkimis väärt, aga selline arulagedus on lausa epiteemiline
"Kui jood siis selles asi"
"aga kui ei joo, ja meeli arendavaid aineid kasutad, mida ise oma ajuga ei julge" Nu siis peab selles asi olema (ja siis joob suurema osa ajast, ise edasi ja imeb suitsu, nagu punased korporatsioonid ja vaimud käsivad vaimuvaeseid, või masenduses olijaid (masendus milles süüdistatakse teisi), kiites kui tark ta ise on,
et ta ikka "neid muid asju ei kasuta" )
ja oleks see väikese gruppi puhul, siis poleks märkimis väärt, aga selline arulagedus on lausa epiteemiline
22 August 2016 11:08
Margus Meigo replied to Ylle Järva's comment.
oo mitte "sellele taavile" enamusel kes taavi kallal prääkusvad, pole isegi inimväärtusi, et tollega ühes lauas istuda.
Ilgelt lihtne on Rõiva kallal võtta kui punased veel materiali ka ette andnud on, saa ise 30neselt peaministri kohale ja siis tule jutustama.
Või ole omadustega, et sind pandaks sinna.
Enamus vist pole mone päris eesti meelse poliitikuga või vana tegijaga üheski kabinetis koos olnud kuid nagu vene ajal, kooris sinnapoole ilma mõtlemata kisatakse kuhu näpuga näidatakse.
Mõistlik inimene, enne kui kellegi vastu suu avab, võiks tal olla ettekujutus, mida see töö tähendab, kes selle asemel ja miks peaks olema, See elementaarne, seda ka väljendama, et jutul sisu ja materiali oleks.
Vabandust, ei pannud tähele et naisterahvas oled, eks see sinu isa töö on ja mehe oma, sinu vaadete eest hoolitseda, ja kui seda ei tehta,siis ongi kulla laps massimeedia hooles, kuhuiganes tuul puhub.
See mõeldud, täiesti ilma solvanguta, kuid kui kaua võib, keegi peab sellele punaste propakandale vastu hakkama ja oma rahva lollitamisele lopu panema.
On täitsa OK olla rõiva suhtes kriitline, voi millise iganes pintsaku, KUI on materiali ja teadmisi, ja OMA arvamus ja arusaam, kellegi TARGA põhjal vähemaltki, koos inimestega oma meeltes, keda tema asemel ja miks näha soovid, ja siis teha selles osas ka midagi, muidu on see lihtsalt kooris prääksumine ja ühtlane mulin, millega omae häbi teha.
Aga need kelle silmis see masendav on, ei tule isegi kunagi solkimaja kommenteerima sellistesse kohtadesseenamasti,
Ilgelt lihtne on Rõiva kallal võtta kui punased veel materiali ka ette andnud on, saa ise 30neselt peaministri kohale ja siis tule jutustama.
Või ole omadustega, et sind pandaks sinna.
Enamus vist pole mone päris eesti meelse poliitikuga või vana tegijaga üheski kabinetis koos olnud kuid nagu vene ajal, kooris sinnapoole ilma mõtlemata kisatakse kuhu näpuga näidatakse.
Mõistlik inimene, enne kui kellegi vastu suu avab, võiks tal olla ettekujutus, mida see töö tähendab, kes selle asemel ja miks peaks olema, See elementaarne, seda ka väljendama, et jutul sisu ja materiali oleks.
Vabandust, ei pannud tähele et naisterahvas oled, eks see sinu isa töö on ja mehe oma, sinu vaadete eest hoolitseda, ja kui seda ei tehta,siis ongi kulla laps massimeedia hooles, kuhuiganes tuul puhub.
See mõeldud, täiesti ilma solvanguta, kuid kui kaua võib, keegi peab sellele punaste propakandale vastu hakkama ja oma rahva lollitamisele lopu panema.
On täitsa OK olla rõiva suhtes kriitline, voi millise iganes pintsaku, KUI on materiali ja teadmisi, ja OMA arvamus ja arusaam, kellegi TARGA põhjal vähemaltki, koos inimestega oma meeltes, keda tema asemel ja miks näha soovid, ja siis teha selles osas ka midagi, muidu on see lihtsalt kooris prääksumine ja ühtlane mulin, millega omae häbi teha.
Aga need kelle silmis see masendav on, ei tule isegi kunagi solkimaja kommenteerima sellistesse kohtadesseenamasti,
22 August 2016 11:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vahur Jürgenson Jälle, 12 aastase liberaali stiilis "plää plää" aga midagi öelda faktilist ei ole ? Räägi siis mis on jube, mis tegelikult teistmoodi on ja mingist asjast ka ?
Väga nõrk ja homolik on sedasi mingeid silte plduda, umbes nagu sul oleks midagi öelda.
MINUGA teinud ? Ha Ha, et umm, Teil on vaimu puudus, nagu kari kommuniste prääksute siin valitsuse kallal millest te midagi ei tea, nii nagu Tallina TV ette kirjutab, korrapäraselt nagu pioneer lapsed, ja siis minul on viga?
Ehk äkki võtad aega sutsu oma treeningute kõrvalt ja kasvatad natuke juukseid ja habet ning saad maaga kontakti muud moodi kui mati peal?
Väga nõrk ja homolik on sedasi mingeid silte plduda, umbes nagu sul oleks midagi öelda.
MINUGA teinud ? Ha Ha, et umm, Teil on vaimu puudus, nagu kari kommuniste prääksute siin valitsuse kallal millest te midagi ei tea, nii nagu Tallina TV ette kirjutab, korrapäraselt nagu pioneer lapsed, ja siis minul on viga?
Ehk äkki võtad aega sutsu oma treeningute kõrvalt ja kasvatad natuke juukseid ja habet ning saad maaga kontakti muud moodi kui mati peal?
22 August 2016 10:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid eks see ole see, mida ta ükskord mainis "et minigte asjade küüsis ja all, mingite jõudude all olemist pead ikka tunnistama, kui tahad alles jääda.."
21 August 2016 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on Asse Sauga's post.
Tark mees, kahju, et lipsu kannab
21 August 2016 20:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
NU hea et väljatõid ise, kus Sinu konnasilm on.
Nüüd juba hakkame vaikselt rääkima..
Nüüd juba hakkame vaikselt rääkima..
21 August 2016 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's post.
I think Bill Gates is one of the only few rich ones, with some of hes friends, who do humanitarian causes, by heart.
21 August 2016 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's post.
They try to eliminate, make her as ill as possible, by various black magic and many other ways... but what god wants, God wants.
If people deserve and sometimes even when they do not.
If people deserve and sometimes even when they do not.
21 August 2016 20:12
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's post.
Yes this man are afraid...
Specially as She is so smart and powerful, that can release emails if she wants and still become president,
Showing, she is not just pushing air, but will do, new things
and will do more if messed with
Specially as She is so smart and powerful, that can release emails if she wants and still become president,
Showing, she is not just pushing air, but will do, new things
and will do more if messed with
21 August 2016 20:11
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's post.
So she is crooked more, then others, because?
And crooked by fact or by propaganda ?
And crooked by fact or by propaganda ?
21 August 2016 20:09
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's post.
Be careful of ALL man who shave their head more on the near of ears then rest of the head... it is the old invader and alien genes..
pro homo genes also.
Even if they look nice.
Or talk even nicer.
Best is the ones, who do not shave at all, so they can have connection with Space and Earth.
Same with a woman, who does not shave them self down there and who kills her connection with fake blond, painted nails and earrings.
Specially a lot it counts on Yong-er women, older one will have same extra force they can access, adopting, but yes, be aware..
pro homo genes also.
Even if they look nice.
Or talk even nicer.
Best is the ones, who do not shave at all, so they can have connection with Space and Earth.
Same with a woman, who does not shave them self down there and who kills her connection with fake blond, painted nails and earrings.
Specially a lot it counts on Yong-er women, older one will have same extra force they can access, adopting, but yes, be aware..
21 August 2016 20:08
Margus Meigo replied to Gia CheCazzo's comment.
Was Jesus antichrist?
21 August 2016 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's post.
Just by looking how we place pictures, do we do it for PRO our gov or PRO gov who want to, under Greek-Roman two headed Eagle eliminate your Natures love ...
just by looking that, we can see in what direction our mind is turned.
just by looking that, we can see in what direction our mind is turned.
21 August 2016 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's post.
Actually proper REAL leftist, are against Hillary,
it is easy to see if You make proper analyzes on websites and news channels
and remember proper leftist by FAR not showing them as leftist many times, as they need to handle all sides they made, when they made democracy..
Real leftist, are against women, internally, but she is anything but that.,
Yes great group of feminists also is programmed and invented by proper red... but if one can see Blue, among left, then You know.. just you must look in open true heart
and take in to account what is REAL leftist agenda, leftist i mean pentagram worshipers, the Greek-Roman hybrids.. secrets-homo patriarchy worshipers instead of nature and natural Matriarchy..
In real Matriarchy, man are still kings, they just understand, that most important is love of Women, Land and God
it is easy to see if You make proper analyzes on websites and news channels
and remember proper leftist by FAR not showing them as leftist many times, as they need to handle all sides they made, when they made democracy..
Real leftist, are against women, internally, but she is anything but that.,
Yes great group of feminists also is programmed and invented by proper red... but if one can see Blue, among left, then You know.. just you must look in open true heart
and take in to account what is REAL leftist agenda, leftist i mean pentagram worshipers, the Greek-Roman hybrids.. secrets-homo patriarchy worshipers instead of nature and natural Matriarchy..
In real Matriarchy, man are still kings, they just understand, that most important is love of Women, Land and God
21 August 2016 20:02
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's post.
Yes it can,
Unfortunately comedy and satire is most often used, in majority for perverting minds and perverting understandings about morals and thinking
but yes, it can.
Let people bring more good examples.
Even Him https://www.youtube.com/user/jonlajoie/videos?view=0&flow=grid&sort=p
or even in a way, for some generations this https://www.youtube.com/user/thelonelyisland/videos?view=0&flow=grid&sort=p can be beneficial
But yes, what is proper, liberal and communist influence free, intellectual aristocratic or pro-religions satire channels or artists You know (besides George Carlin and Bill Hicks .. )
Unfortunately comedy and satire is most often used, in majority for perverting minds and perverting understandings about morals and thinking
but yes, it can.
Let people bring more good examples.
Even Him https://www.youtube.com/user/jonlajoie/videos?view=0&flow=grid&sort=p
or even in a way, for some generations this https://www.youtube.com/user/thelonelyisland/videos?view=0&flow=grid&sort=p can be beneficial
But yes, what is proper, liberal and communist influence free, intellectual aristocratic or pro-religions satire channels or artists You know (besides George Carlin and Bill Hicks .. )
https://www.youtube.com/user/jonlajoie/videos?view=0&flow=grid&sort=p
21 August 2016 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's post.
So what we need now, is not to dream about what we would like in ideal utopia, but what is NEEDED for a moment, out of options we realistically have, most safe way.
In real world, women's should not rule at all, but their man should, and She should keep man as king and man should know his power comes from Her love and a God
In real world, women's should not rule at all, but their man should, and She should keep man as king and man should know his power comes from Her love and a God
21 August 2016 19:50
Margus Meigo replied to Akari Amjashadow's comment.
i will put my trust on her 100%
21 August 2016 19:49
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's post.
Thsats more like it,
But as we all insiders know long time ago,
Trump is Hillary trump, for securing America
About Clinton, most afraid is Asia (also hopeful), Russia (proper worried) and most of all Muslim nations, who even can not get in to their head, how they should respectfully obey to her now, when she meeting with leaders. But they must.
They also afraid, because she is no man suck-up and no softie,
in Her core, She is proper anti-communist or rather anti Roman Empire arrogant man rulers proper fear, that women, with this kind of agenda, will mess up all the anti-freedom plans what world has prepared, to surrender America openly under pentagram (once, America is proper free, We can even remove pentagrams from a flag in EU and other lands who are liberated from dark magic.. from homo underground old Greek-Roman Empire that just changed its name about few hundred years ago only.. making some small French Empire for few years and then turn in to shadow.. in to democracy. (Demon-Crazy)).
So yeah, even just for 4 years, but She is needed, for SO many other reasons also,
I my self am proper "right wing" and will say that with out any doubt.
Oh, and Trump newer was planned as president, He is just for securing, that America would stay in safe hands, not under some red ones, who would have come to front, maybe, without them.
Someone who talks against own country, is good example to newer let them rule, as they will not have old allies in good and bad side, they will mostly have only bad side then... and
But as we all insiders know long time ago,
Trump is Hillary trump, for securing America
About Clinton, most afraid is Asia (also hopeful), Russia (proper worried) and most of all Muslim nations, who even can not get in to their head, how they should respectfully obey to her now, when she meeting with leaders. But they must.
They also afraid, because she is no man suck-up and no softie,
in Her core, She is proper anti-communist or rather anti Roman Empire arrogant man rulers proper fear, that women, with this kind of agenda, will mess up all the anti-freedom plans what world has prepared, to surrender America openly under pentagram (once, America is proper free, We can even remove pentagrams from a flag in EU and other lands who are liberated from dark magic.. from homo underground old Greek-Roman Empire that just changed its name about few hundred years ago only.. making some small French Empire for few years and then turn in to shadow.. in to democracy. (Demon-Crazy)).
So yeah, even just for 4 years, but She is needed, for SO many other reasons also,
I my self am proper "right wing" and will say that with out any doubt.
Oh, and Trump newer was planned as president, He is just for securing, that America would stay in safe hands, not under some red ones, who would have come to front, maybe, without them.
Someone who talks against own country, is good example to newer let them rule, as they will not have old allies in good and bad side, they will mostly have only bad side then... and
21 August 2016 19:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ragnar Posti käingi, ja veel mitmel pool maailmas, et sellise pläusti väljaajajaid, noori, kes ei suvatse natukene muud lugeda ja oppida kui seda mida kästakse või propakandaga soovitakse... ja siis suudavad ainult "tagasisidet" anda solvangute ja tagasiütlemiste tasemel, kuid mitte ei suuda nad rääkida paari sõnagi PÄRIS oma teadmistest, arusaamadest ja uskumustest,
Isegi mida siis lugenud oled, ei suutnud öelda?
Mida õppinud ja milleks?
Mingi reaalne vastus ka sinult tuleb või jätkad nagu 12 aastane plikatirts stiilis "ise oled"
Isegi mida siis lugenud oled, ei suutnud öelda?
Mida õppinud ja milleks?
Mingi reaalne vastus ka sinult tuleb või jätkad nagu 12 aastane plikatirts stiilis "ise oled"
21 August 2016 19:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ragnar Posti ega Su twitteri limiidiga arusaamad, ja arvatvasti ka samas stiilis trummi ja passi taoline muusikaga tymitatud aju, ei suudagi ühe mõtet hoida ja lugeda üle paari rea.
Vabandused kui eksisin?
Mis kõige pikem asi oli mida viimati järjest lugeda viitsisd ja mida sellest õppisid ?
Vabandused kui eksisin?
Mis kõige pikem asi oli mida viimati järjest lugeda viitsisd ja mida sellest õppisid ?
21 August 2016 19:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kus siis need argumendid on,
oma poolsed arusaamad,
faktid mida teate mida kes kuidas ÜKSI oma plaaniga tegi
ja miks ja kuidas see suures globaalses plaanis oleks parem ja võimalikum olnud,
ootan huviga te noorte arusaamu, vanade ka
oma poolsed arusaamad,
faktid mida teate mida kes kuidas ÜKSI oma plaaniga tegi
ja miks ja kuidas see suures globaalses plaanis oleks parem ja võimalikum olnud,
ootan huviga te noorte arusaamu, vanade ka
21 August 2016 19:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kristiina Kallas mõtekam on ikka inimesi armastaja, kes midagi teevad ka riigi heaks, proovivad, ja avalikult oma riigi vastu ei mögise nagu enamus tänamatud, kes pole viitsid isegi elujooksul paari asjalikku kirja ühegile poliitikulew kirjutada, nende aitamiseks.
Kuid ikka suure suuga vaja iriseda, keskerakonna ajupesu, kommunistede ajupesu tulemusel oma riigi liidrite vastu, arusaamata, et kui need valesti kukuvad, sis VÄGA palju hullemad tulevad, kellel enam ei takistata tööd vaid kes OTSESE plaaniga, see rahavs likvideerida on, ja neid on väga palju... organisatsioonid mitmekümne ja ka mitme tuhande aastased,
Kuid kui elementaarsest ei soovita aru saada ja Kanal 2 ja TV3 me tasemel eriti veel, mõtteid mõelda, siis muidugi, hea lihtne elada ja oma riiki materdada ja selleläbi kommunistide ja oma rahva vaenlastele teeneid teadmatult teha nagu nad orjadele soovi peale pannud on psühologia ja meedia kaudu
Kuid ikka suure suuga vaja iriseda, keskerakonna ajupesu, kommunistede ajupesu tulemusel oma riigi liidrite vastu, arusaamata, et kui need valesti kukuvad, sis VÄGA palju hullemad tulevad, kellel enam ei takistata tööd vaid kes OTSESE plaaniga, see rahavs likvideerida on, ja neid on väga palju... organisatsioonid mitmekümne ja ka mitme tuhande aastased,
Kuid kui elementaarsest ei soovita aru saada ja Kanal 2 ja TV3 me tasemel eriti veel, mõtteid mõelda, siis muidugi, hea lihtne elada ja oma riiki materdada ja selleläbi kommunistide ja oma rahva vaenlastele teeneid teadmatult teha nagu nad orjadele soovi peale pannud on psühologia ja meedia kaudu
21 August 2016 19:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ega viina siis ing keeles niisama "spirit"! ei kutsuta...
see selleks, et siis teine vaim sees on...
ja eks enamuste ainetega, eri vaimud ja asjad on millega saab kntakti, tuleb vaadata lihtsalt millised on SINU poolsed ja millised inimkonnast mitte hoolivad..
Jõhkardid ja robotid on põhjusega psühedeelsed ja enteogeensed ained keelanud, sest need avaksid lihtsate tõdede osas silmad, peale m
see selleks, et siis teine vaim sees on...
ja eks enamuste ainetega, eri vaimud ja asjad on millega saab kntakti, tuleb vaadata lihtsalt millised on SINU poolsed ja millised inimkonnast mitte hoolivad..
Jõhkardid ja robotid on põhjusega psühedeelsed ja enteogeensed ained keelanud, sest need avaksid lihtsate tõdede osas silmad, peale m
21 August 2016 19:15
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Kallas's post.
Muidugi see on TÄIESTI arulage ja vale statistika, kuid noh, mis iganes propakanda jaoks vaja, seda ikka kütetakse
Mis iganes oma uskumusi erutab.
See on teada, et enamus lapse vägistajad on nende lähisugulased ja sõbrad, see trend pole veel siiani muutunud. Va sõja ajal kus punasel armeel ja sellistel, oli käsk sõjaline, vägistada nii palju kui võimalik või sõbralikult magatada, et oma seemet ja vaimu võõramaa naistesse kanda, et neid tulevastel generatsioonidel oleks lihtsam väänata.
(kelle iganes sperma naises olnud on, eriti kui see esimesi, siis see ka määrab edasiste laste arengu, sest emakas ja muu sisekosmos, selle esimese võõrkehajärgi ennast paika sätib, ja muid spermasi selle järgi vaatama hakkab.)
Lisaks muidugi, kuna nad eri vaimude poolt jooksutatud oli, siis veel vaimse rünnakuna, kui oled naisesse murdnud, siis see muudab naisi enamusi igaveseks,
Need moslemid kes oma seks invasionit teevad, nendel ka see plaan ja arusaam, lisaks elementaarsele, et seksi kaudu, madala standardiga euroopas, nad selle ala üle võtavad, kus enamus inimesi enam ei teagi, juurteta olles, et sobib aiult ühe inimesega elujooksul magada, kui ideaalne olla soovid,
Ja kui halvasti peaks juhtuma, ja mitmega, siis AINULT nendega kelle vahel on armastus, ja kelle vaim ning keha, geenid ei ole alkoholi ja suitsuga mürgitatud. Purjuspeaga magamised on üldse ühed rõvedad asjad, sest purjus olles, lisaks teiega olles, veel muu olendid kergest ligi saavad, kes oma tööd samal ajal teevad, kuna naturaalne kaitsekiht ja tundlikus on kadunud.
Mis iganes oma uskumusi erutab.
See on teada, et enamus lapse vägistajad on nende lähisugulased ja sõbrad, see trend pole veel siiani muutunud. Va sõja ajal kus punasel armeel ja sellistel, oli käsk sõjaline, vägistada nii palju kui võimalik või sõbralikult magatada, et oma seemet ja vaimu võõramaa naistesse kanda, et neid tulevastel generatsioonidel oleks lihtsam väänata.
(kelle iganes sperma naises olnud on, eriti kui see esimesi, siis see ka määrab edasiste laste arengu, sest emakas ja muu sisekosmos, selle esimese võõrkehajärgi ennast paika sätib, ja muid spermasi selle järgi vaatama hakkab.)
Lisaks muidugi, kuna nad eri vaimude poolt jooksutatud oli, siis veel vaimse rünnakuna, kui oled naisesse murdnud, siis see muudab naisi enamusi igaveseks,
Need moslemid kes oma seks invasionit teevad, nendel ka see plaan ja arusaam, lisaks elementaarsele, et seksi kaudu, madala standardiga euroopas, nad selle ala üle võtavad, kus enamus inimesi enam ei teagi, juurteta olles, et sobib aiult ühe inimesega elujooksul magada, kui ideaalne olla soovid,
Ja kui halvasti peaks juhtuma, ja mitmega, siis AINULT nendega kelle vahel on armastus, ja kelle vaim ning keha, geenid ei ole alkoholi ja suitsuga mürgitatud. Purjuspeaga magamised on üldse ühed rõvedad asjad, sest purjus olles, lisaks teiega olles, veel muu olendid kergest ligi saavad, kes oma tööd samal ajal teevad, kuna naturaalne kaitsekiht ja tundlikus on kadunud.
21 August 2016 19:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vet selles asi ongi, et ma ei joo.
Ja kui midagi kritiseerida oli, et midagi mis muud arvamust, targemat arusaama on, siis kometeeri vähem lambi soovitusi karsklasele, vaid selgita siis,
Mida Sa paremini oskad sellistes olukordades kus nad on, sellise maagia all.
Muidugi ega tavarahavas kes poliitikast tume, ei tea poliitmaagiast ja muudest suurtest psüholoogilistest mõjutustest tuhkagi, lihtsam ikka kohe iriseda selle asemel, et oma EESTI eest seista ja kes vähegi Eesti poolt on, ka neid kaitsta ja õpetada, olgu nad rõivas või alasti.
Ja kui midagi kritiseerida oli, et midagi mis muud arvamust, targemat arusaama on, siis kometeeri vähem lambi soovitusi karsklasele, vaid selgita siis,
Mida Sa paremini oskad sellistes olukordades kus nad on, sellise maagia all.
Muidugi ega tavarahavas kes poliitikast tume, ei tea poliitmaagiast ja muudest suurtest psüholoogilistest mõjutustest tuhkagi, lihtsam ikka kohe iriseda selle asemel, et oma EESTI eest seista ja kes vähegi Eesti poolt on, ka neid kaitsta ja õpetada, olgu nad rõivas või alasti.
21 August 2016 19:06
Margus Meigo commented on Ragnar Posti's post.
Nu on arulage mees :D
Kuid humoorikas tõesti, kuid noh, mees on ikka siin see kes arengu puuduse ja muude kiiksudega oli, kuid muu poindi mõttes huvitav lüke
Kuid humoorikas tõesti, kuid noh, mees on ikka siin see kes arengu puuduse ja muude kiiksudega oli, kuid muu poindi mõttes huvitav lüke
21 August 2016 19:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Osadel inimestel väärarusaam, et sõnavabadus ja õigus, tähedab, et võib mida iganes ja mis iganes eesmärgil rääkida, ikka vahedevahel on vahed vahel
Ja kui selle loo eesmärk oleks olnud, Kenderil näiteks, sellist rõvedust edaspidi likvideerida meediast ja mujalt, siis oleks asjast aru saanud, et siis oleks asjal pointi olnud ja julge ja radikaalne suts must samm, aga noh, siis oleks arusaadav olnud..
Ja kui selle loo eesmärk oleks olnud, Kenderil näiteks, sellist rõvedust edaspidi likvideerida meediast ja mujalt, siis oleks asjast aru saanud, et siis oleks asjal pointi olnud ja julge ja radikaalne suts must samm, aga noh, siis oleks arusaadav olnud..
21 August 2016 09:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi meie rahvas, asendas, selle presidendi portaali lehel, tema profiili Kert kanderiga, .. eks see näita ka taset. Teatud sorti.
No offence Knader, kuid nagu Sa ise ka ennast KUNAGI ei hakkaks ju ennast samale pulgale panema , ligilähedalegi, kui Jõerüüt?
Miks siis lased seda rahval teha, noomi neid totruse eest ja selgita, mis on riiigile kasulikum, kirjutada muidu küll Sul meeldib ju.. et anna sulele tuld, midagi vähem perversemat sõnaõiguse testisk,
Sõnaõigus, on antud selleks, et inimesel oleks õigus midagi arendavat ja vajalikkuedastada,
Või oma tundeid ja muud ilu mis tal kõrvadevahel, jms. Eks seda juba teame
No offence Knader, kuid nagu Sa ise ka ennast KUNAGI ei hakkaks ju ennast samale pulgale panema , ligilähedalegi, kui Jõerüüt?
Miks siis lased seda rahval teha, noomi neid totruse eest ja selgita, mis on riiigile kasulikum, kirjutada muidu küll Sul meeldib ju.. et anna sulele tuld, midagi vähem perversemat sõnaõiguse testisk,
Sõnaõigus, on antud selleks, et inimesel oleks õigus midagi arendavat ja vajalikkuedastada,
Või oma tundeid ja muud ilu mis tal kõrvadevahel, jms. Eks seda juba teame
21 August 2016 09:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Jõerüüt: Minu vastus on siin.
" Eesti jaoks on kestmise vundament ja ka vundamendikivide sideaine kultuur. Selles kontekstis sisaldab kultuur nelja äärmiselt mahukat komponenti – teaduslooming, kunstilooming, haridus ja emakeel. Nende nelja komponendi pidev riiklik toetamine, rahastamine ja kasutamine on ainuke retsept, mis aitab kas juba tõrjuda või vähemalt läbi põdeda meid ründavate hübriidsete epideemiate viiruseid.
Kujundlikult: ilma sellise vundamendi eest pidevat, prioriteetset hoolt kandmata hakkavad kõikuma riigi majandusehituse seinad, vajuvad mutta riigikaitse roomikud ja saapad, kuivavad rahva elujõu jõed ning varisevad tolmuks eneseusu kantsid. Sellise vundamendi kindlustamisega aga on võimalik Eestile tagada tulevik.
Jah, ka mina rõhun sedakaudu vaimse iseseisvuse peale, Jakob Hurda peale, kui soovite. "
" Eesti jaoks on kestmise vundament ja ka vundamendikivide sideaine kultuur. Selles kontekstis sisaldab kultuur nelja äärmiselt mahukat komponenti – teaduslooming, kunstilooming, haridus ja emakeel. Nende nelja komponendi pidev riiklik toetamine, rahastamine ja kasutamine on ainuke retsept, mis aitab kas juba tõrjuda või vähemalt läbi põdeda meid ründavate hübriidsete epideemiate viiruseid.
Kujundlikult: ilma sellise vundamendi eest pidevat, prioriteetset hoolt kandmata hakkavad kõikuma riigi majandusehituse seinad, vajuvad mutta riigikaitse roomikud ja saapad, kuivavad rahva elujõu jõed ning varisevad tolmuks eneseusu kantsid. Sellise vundamendi kindlustamisega aga on võimalik Eestile tagada tulevik.
Jah, ka mina rõhun sedakaudu vaimse iseseisvuse peale, Jakob Hurda peale, kui soovite. "
21 August 2016 09:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Keegigi, kes julgeb ja teab rääkida vaimsest Eliidist ja Eliidi vajalikusest, oma rahva vaimsust tõsta. Mis on elementaarne, veider, etenamus seda ei räägi. Maharahustamaks igast riigi kallal inisejaid.
21 August 2016 09:08
Margus Meigo commented on Signe Püve's photo.
Yes You will... but only for reason, to re-discover, the best place, in here.
And to bring here, all the good world wisdom and love back!
No place like home!
And to bring here, all the good world wisdom and love back!
No place like home!
21 August 2016 08:55
Margus Meigo commented on Ave-Mari Püve's post.
Selles oli hääd mee õlut, mäletan, kui veel kunagi jõin
21 August 2016 08:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tuus : )
21 August 2016 08:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vere asemel meil Maa.
kuid eks kõike vaja
kuid eks kõike vaja
21 August 2016 08:53
Margus Meigo commented on Ave-Mari Püve's photo.
See on peaaegu, nagu Eesti lipp, ühe värvi vahe : )
21 August 2016 08:53
Margus Meigo commented on Margus von Einmann's post.
Küll see juku on ikka nupupoiss
21 August 2016 08:12
Margus Meigo commented on Margus von Einmann's post.
Yea.. ma olin londoni vana ühe msutade pantrite liidriga londoni allilmas üle aasta.. eks neil ka rasked arusaamad, kuid pigem suts kerglased ka , nagu tänapäeva liberaalidel ja vanadel punastel hippidel (erinevalt päris hippidest)
21 August 2016 08:10
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
Well, he wears a tie and talk about God same time, that's reason enough in my book
21 August 2016 08:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see kes näeb, sellel kohustus ka korda seada, muidu oled sina see, eks meelega korra käest ära laskis
arglikuse, ükskõiksuse ja oma puudulikuse tõttu
arglikuse, ükskõiksuse ja oma puudulikuse tõttu
21 August 2016 07:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ma vihuti olen rõivase poolt iga kell ja nimetan täis lambaks neid kes arvavad, et Rõivas rohkem eesti languses süüdi on, kui tava alkoholi joojad ja suitsetajad, ringinikkujatest rääkimata, kes naiste hingi siin läbi ratsutanud ja hea platvormi võõr tulnukatele teinud, et moraalivabalt kõik uued lapsed arvaks, et ongi normaalne proovida mida iganes.
Poliitikud ei anna enamuse selle osas eeskuju, Sina Eestlasena enamasti ise oled alati andnud, IGA kord kui sa sigadust tienud oled, või kui sa teiste noomimist pole kuulnud, ja ilmselgelt siis kui sa pole julgenud teise ellu astutda ja selles korda paika lüüüa sõnadega alustusesk, kui vähegi näed midagi, mida keegi teeb mis vanavanaemasi solvanud oleks, ja ku isa midagi ei tee, siis oled SINA probleemi osa, teisel ju puudus.. kus tema teadma pidi kui keegi korduvalt ei ütlenud..
Poliitikud ei anna enamuse selle osas eeskuju, Sina Eestlasena enamasti ise oled alati andnud, IGA kord kui sa sigadust tienud oled, või kui sa teiste noomimist pole kuulnud, ja ilmselgelt siis kui sa pole julgenud teise ellu astutda ja selles korda paika lüüüa sõnadega alustusesk, kui vähegi näed midagi, mida keegi teeb mis vanavanaemasi solvanud oleks, ja ku isa midagi ei tee, siis oled SINA probleemi osa, teisel ju puudus.. kus tema teadma pidi kui keegi korduvalt ei ütlenud..
21 August 2016 07:22
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Kallas's post.
ja jah, meie ei tahnud seda ja toda eestist,
ega need probleemid, siin ei ole EESTI tekitatud, meelega,
need VÄGA suured globaalsed projektid, kuna siinse kõlupead poel aru saanud veel, et SELLISTE kohtade likvideerimine ja ümberkonvertimine on üks PÕHI olulisi projekte maailma suurvalitsejatel, sest nad ei saa ühtset korda teha ühtsete õigusstandarditega, kui igasugused Natsionalistid ja Loodustargad siin seene ja kultuuripärandi juttu ajavad... seega et rahval ununeks kes ta on, tuleb neid iga nurgapealt suruda, kogu euroopa korda muuta kui vaja, seniks, kuni enam sammu pidada ei jõua normidega mis headusest vastu võeti kavalate suslikute käest... ja kuni allutakse ja alistutakse suurtematesse ja suurtematesse loksudesse.
Eelkõige, LÕVIOSA aga on süüdi meie RAHVUSE ja KULTUURI täeilikus hävingus, 100% kõik need, kes suitsetavad, joovad ja telekast lamedusi vaatavad ning ei keela meedial (ükskõik ku ierakapital ta on) saasta ajamast, mis on teada, et ei ole mingit väärtust arendav ega ka tõsi mitte
Inimesed joovad, nikuvad ringi ja suitsetavad, söövad saasta ja liha näost sisse ja siis süüdistavad oma valitsust ja ei tea keda siin, euroopad, ameerikat, venelasi (olgugi , et nad paljus SELLE programmi taga, aga SINUL oli valik, SINU peale loodeti ,et SINA rahvana, jääd targaks, seni kuni lipsuvennad välismaa ilma jaoks kaasa nmängivad ,et nad "teevad mis saavad" .. molemad pooled.. samas salaja lootes oma rahva tarkuse peale.. aga ei.. asutakse pilduma neid kes midagi teha on suutnud ja soovinud, aga need kes ILMSELGELT jura ajavad, nende vastu miskit suurt sõna ei võeta. ei julgeta, ei viitsita, ei osata hoolida ega aru saada..).
See ilmselge, et Rõivas pole punane, ja ilmselge, et tal palju kambakaid on tehtud ja punaste propakandaga ta vastu oma rahvas aetud, kes teda peaks oskama toetada ja suunata, selles maailmas, kus iga aastaga raskemaks läheb olla oma rahva pooolt,
sest ega see 91 aastal antud vabadus, siis mingi asi pole, mis jääma pidi nende arvates kes andsid, neil siis oli juba plaanis, 30 aasta pärast (umbes 2020) uue lainega uus kord vaikselt tiksuma panna, ja järgmise perjoodi sees, aktiviseerida 90ndate generatsiooni kadumisel täielikud lõplikud uued suunad, sest selleks ajaks on olemas kõik teaduslikud ja tehnilised vahnedid,
inimestele kohandatult, et ei pea enam muretsema kas inimesed on nõus või mitte, siis saab juba robotitega asja ajada
kuid me siin ei kasvata isegi massiliselt õunapuid enam, ja müüme suvalistele välismaalastele avalikult oma maad, PÄRISEKS... ja siis kirume poliitikud ja keda veel.. selleasemel, et sellele kodumaalasele, kes sellist käkki teeb pasunasse sõita või tuli otsa panna karistuseks ta osmikule, kui ta aru ei saa, et ta suures plaanis kodumaa vastast ajsa teeb
ega need probleemid, siin ei ole EESTI tekitatud, meelega,
need VÄGA suured globaalsed projektid, kuna siinse kõlupead poel aru saanud veel, et SELLISTE kohtade likvideerimine ja ümberkonvertimine on üks PÕHI olulisi projekte maailma suurvalitsejatel, sest nad ei saa ühtset korda teha ühtsete õigusstandarditega, kui igasugused Natsionalistid ja Loodustargad siin seene ja kultuuripärandi juttu ajavad... seega et rahval ununeks kes ta on, tuleb neid iga nurgapealt suruda, kogu euroopa korda muuta kui vaja, seniks, kuni enam sammu pidada ei jõua normidega mis headusest vastu võeti kavalate suslikute käest... ja kuni allutakse ja alistutakse suurtematesse ja suurtematesse loksudesse.
Eelkõige, LÕVIOSA aga on süüdi meie RAHVUSE ja KULTUURI täeilikus hävingus, 100% kõik need, kes suitsetavad, joovad ja telekast lamedusi vaatavad ning ei keela meedial (ükskõik ku ierakapital ta on) saasta ajamast, mis on teada, et ei ole mingit väärtust arendav ega ka tõsi mitte
Inimesed joovad, nikuvad ringi ja suitsetavad, söövad saasta ja liha näost sisse ja siis süüdistavad oma valitsust ja ei tea keda siin, euroopad, ameerikat, venelasi (olgugi , et nad paljus SELLE programmi taga, aga SINUL oli valik, SINU peale loodeti ,et SINA rahvana, jääd targaks, seni kuni lipsuvennad välismaa ilma jaoks kaasa nmängivad ,et nad "teevad mis saavad" .. molemad pooled.. samas salaja lootes oma rahva tarkuse peale.. aga ei.. asutakse pilduma neid kes midagi teha on suutnud ja soovinud, aga need kes ILMSELGELT jura ajavad, nende vastu miskit suurt sõna ei võeta. ei julgeta, ei viitsita, ei osata hoolida ega aru saada..).
See ilmselge, et Rõivas pole punane, ja ilmselge, et tal palju kambakaid on tehtud ja punaste propakandaga ta vastu oma rahvas aetud, kes teda peaks oskama toetada ja suunata, selles maailmas, kus iga aastaga raskemaks läheb olla oma rahva pooolt,
sest ega see 91 aastal antud vabadus, siis mingi asi pole, mis jääma pidi nende arvates kes andsid, neil siis oli juba plaanis, 30 aasta pärast (umbes 2020) uue lainega uus kord vaikselt tiksuma panna, ja järgmise perjoodi sees, aktiviseerida 90ndate generatsiooni kadumisel täielikud lõplikud uued suunad, sest selleks ajaks on olemas kõik teaduslikud ja tehnilised vahnedid,
inimestele kohandatult, et ei pea enam muretsema kas inimesed on nõus või mitte, siis saab juba robotitega asja ajada
kuid me siin ei kasvata isegi massiliselt õunapuid enam, ja müüme suvalistele välismaalastele avalikult oma maad, PÄRISEKS... ja siis kirume poliitikud ja keda veel.. selleasemel, et sellele kodumaalasele, kes sellist käkki teeb pasunasse sõita või tuli otsa panna karistuseks ta osmikule, kui ta aru ei saa, et ta suures plaanis kodumaa vastast ajsa teeb
21 August 2016 07:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
naised armastuse nimel muidugi mida iganes nõus tegema, mida NAD usuvad, et mees vajab või soovib, või mida kuulnud on.
Siin juba ligub lausa naisi ringi, kes arvavad,et süütus on äbiasi ja seda suvalistega kähku maha lasta soovivad enda küljest.. nu mida siis rääkida sellest, et "küll naine teab mis tal hea"
ei nad üksi tea midagi alati, kui aluspõja pole.. vahest ikka mees ka normaalsusega abistama peab
Siin juba ligub lausa naisi ringi, kes arvavad,et süütus on äbiasi ja seda suvalistega kähku maha lasta soovivad enda küljest.. nu mida siis rääkida sellest, et "küll naine teab mis tal hea"
ei nad üksi tea midagi alati, kui aluspõja pole.. vahest ikka mees ka normaalsusega abistama peab
21 August 2016 07:08
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's photo.
Muidugi sperma koht pole kõhus ja munni koht pole suus, kindlasti mitte tithi. Kui üldse.
vaimselt see eriti ei arenda ja võib lausa hoopis muud tähendada kui seda ilusat mida ise arvame..
Kui arvata, et naisel meeldib spermat suus hoida, eriti kui halva menüüga mees on, kellel seega haisev või mõru seeme, ...siis alati see mees peaks ise mõtlema, kas tal enda sperma meeldib suus hoida, ja kui sellest üle saanud, sest see ju SINU enda kehamahl, siis mõtle, kui paljude teiste spermat suus hoida tahaksid,
samamoodi anaal perversustega, meestel läbivaja mõelda ja oma naine kaineks kasvatada,
Õiged asjad on elus lihtsad asjad, mis inimeste vahel naturaalselt toimivad ilma kahtluseta
vaimselt see eriti ei arenda ja võib lausa hoopis muud tähendada kui seda ilusat mida ise arvame..
Kui arvata, et naisel meeldib spermat suus hoida, eriti kui halva menüüga mees on, kellel seega haisev või mõru seeme, ...siis alati see mees peaks ise mõtlema, kas tal enda sperma meeldib suus hoida, ja kui sellest üle saanud, sest see ju SINU enda kehamahl, siis mõtle, kui paljude teiste spermat suus hoida tahaksid,
samamoodi anaal perversustega, meestel läbivaja mõelda ja oma naine kaineks kasvatada,
Õiged asjad on elus lihtsad asjad, mis inimeste vahel naturaalselt toimivad ilma kahtluseta
21 August 2016 07:06
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's photo.
:D
21 August 2016 07:03
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Mõni hakkab kümneselt juba nägema õige pilguga, ja siis näeb seda 30neselt mida mõned 50 neselt alles nägema võivad hakata, kui veab..
21 August 2016 07:02
Margus Meigo commented on Richard B Joseph's photo.
Does matter less how rich and famous someone is, but matters, for what rich is meeting with who ever they do
21 August 2016 06:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või noh, see eesots sääl, maa rahvas tundub normaalne
21 August 2016 06:57
Margus Meigo commented on Silver Meikar's photo.
Prantslased üldse ühed suurimad susiad ja kultuuride väärastajad
21 August 2016 06:57
Margus Meigo commented on Silver Meikar's photo.
ma alguses lugesin "ka lipsud"
Lipsud tuleks muidugi keelata siin maal, suure häbistamise ja arusaamaga, mis need tegelikult on ja kui häbiväärne ja lollakalt võõrvõimule alandav, meid alaarendav, see orjaköis on ümber kaela,
Mille ainukeseks tõeliseks kasutuseks saab olla inimese poomine (ja muud sadomaso mängud)
Lipsud tuleks muidugi keelata siin maal, suure häbistamise ja arusaamaga, mis need tegelikult on ja kui häbiväärne ja lollakalt võõrvõimule alandav, meid alaarendav, see orjaköis on ümber kaela,
Mille ainukeseks tõeliseks kasutuseks saab olla inimese poomine (ja muud sadomaso mängud)
21 August 2016 06:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mingil põhjusel on neid mitte leida enam me kandis peale seda kui Nato lennukid üle lendasid, loodetavasti nende nano bio relvad mis saavad ükskõik mis taime likvideerida, ei puistanud siia miskit jama... sest jah, teades milleks need seened võimelised on, kui veel Teravpaljakutega siduda.. siis pole midagi imestada, tegu ikkagi viisnurkade kandjaga ja iidsete juurte läbilõikamine käib tihti märkamatult läbi taimede muutmise või menüüst kaotamise...
Oleme juba liialt kaua sajandeid eemal olnud oma päris olemusest, ja siis imestame.. miks noored nii ja naa on
Oleme juba liialt kaua sajandeid eemal olnud oma päris olemusest, ja siis imestame.. miks noored nii ja naa on
21 August 2016 06:45
Margus Meigo commented on Eva Lepik's photo.
Peaaasi, et kärbseseeni korjate niipalju kui võimalik, need väärtuslikumad kui enamus mis meil metsas kasvavad.
Ainult peab kiiresti saunas metall restil ära kuivatama, siis kesavad kuni 10 aastat.
Kasutusvõimaluste list lisaks PÄRIS eestimaa uurimiseks (shamanism) on väga palju, mähistest, imuunsüsteemi tugevndamiseks talvel ja mida kõike veel.
Maitselt ja lõhnalt on ka ühed imelisemad, kuigi ma ise kuivatatust peast taluvõiga praadisin ainult, kuid maitse oli ikka kirjeldamatult hea (ps: ära üle kolme seene küll alguses söö..).
Kogu seda kupatamise jama mis õpetatakse, et seenelt ravimid välja keeta.. nu seda ma ei tea, ei soovitaks, ta ikka loodud nii nagu on.
Aspiriin ka tapab kui seda liialt palju süüa (päris palju inimesi aastas, kuid kärbseseene kogus vist ulatus 30 kiloni ühe korraga, mida inimene tarbima pidi selleks, et muretsema peaks hakkama).
Sõin terve korvi nädalaga ära ükssuvi, kui tõsisemad plaanid olid.
Ainult peab kiiresti saunas metall restil ära kuivatama, siis kesavad kuni 10 aastat.
Kasutusvõimaluste list lisaks PÄRIS eestimaa uurimiseks (shamanism) on väga palju, mähistest, imuunsüsteemi tugevndamiseks talvel ja mida kõike veel.
Maitselt ja lõhnalt on ka ühed imelisemad, kuigi ma ise kuivatatust peast taluvõiga praadisin ainult, kuid maitse oli ikka kirjeldamatult hea (ps: ära üle kolme seene küll alguses söö..).
Kogu seda kupatamise jama mis õpetatakse, et seenelt ravimid välja keeta.. nu seda ma ei tea, ei soovitaks, ta ikka loodud nii nagu on.
Aspiriin ka tapab kui seda liialt palju süüa (päris palju inimesi aastas, kuid kärbseseene kogus vist ulatus 30 kiloni ühe korraga, mida inimene tarbima pidi selleks, et muretsema peaks hakkama).
Sõin terve korvi nädalaga ära ükssuvi, kui tõsisemad plaanid olid.
21 August 2016 06:43
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
You findthe perfect ones
20 August 2016 06:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei nu ikka.. klasssikaline kuidas siis miskid teaduseksperdid mehed tavad rääkida, mis on irresponsible naisele...
Vaat kuidas sõnastatud punastel on "veider obsession..."
"Hillary Clinton’s weird obsession with UFOs is deeply “misguided” and “irresponsible,” a science expert has argued.
More: Hillary Clinton Has A Transparency Problem
Science journalist (and former UFO hoaxer) Nadia Drake writes in National Geographic that Clinton’s repeated public comments about the likelihood of extraterrestrial activity on Earth, many of which have been egged on by her alien-obsessed campaign manager John Podesta, are damaging to the public discourse.
HRC: @johnpodesta "has made me personally pledge we are going to get the information out" on aliens and Area 51
— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) January 4, 2016
“I want to open the files as much as we can,” Clinton said in a radio interview last month. “There’s enough stories out there that I don’t think everybody is just sitting in their kitchen making them up.”
http://heatst.com/politics/hillary-clinton-aliens/
Vaat kuidas sõnastatud punastel on "veider obsession..."
"Hillary Clinton’s weird obsession with UFOs is deeply “misguided” and “irresponsible,” a science expert has argued.
More: Hillary Clinton Has A Transparency Problem
Science journalist (and former UFO hoaxer) Nadia Drake writes in National Geographic that Clinton’s repeated public comments about the likelihood of extraterrestrial activity on Earth, many of which have been egged on by her alien-obsessed campaign manager John Podesta, are damaging to the public discourse.
HRC: @johnpodesta "has made me personally pledge we are going to get the information out" on aliens and Area 51
— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) January 4, 2016
“I want to open the files as much as we can,” Clinton said in a radio interview last month. “There’s enough stories out there that I don’t think everybody is just sitting in their kitchen making them up.”
http://heatst.com/politics/hillary-clinton-aliens/
http://heatst.com/politics/hillary-clinton-aliens/
20 August 2016 04:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"I think if people like myself the General Public was told by our government that aliens do exist I believe there would be utter chaos in the world in my own opinion that would Shake every religion out there's for my own faith I would be shaking to Mike or confused angry and hurt but we all need Something to Believe In so I would keep on with my face I think the government afraid to tell us because the general public in the world would rebel against our government for lying to us I mean who knows maybe we are just one long science experiment to outer terrestrial"
"All the old texts speak of people coming from heaven, down to earth and were responsible for our genetic design. And somewhere back in history they changed all the different individuals, who all had different specific responsibilities, into one "God."
// well, maybe God "wanted" so.. : ;)
"All the old texts speak of people coming from heaven, down to earth and were responsible for our genetic design. And somewhere back in history they changed all the different individuals, who all had different specific responsibilities, into one "God."
// well, maybe God "wanted" so.. : ;)
20 August 2016 03:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Comments: "I think that most of the human race is still too primitive to handle the truth, not all of us are ready to face aliens that know the truth about life itself. Most people are so dedicated to their believes that they probably will commit suicide or go crazy if they really knew the truth."
"what do you mean by face them? (fight) that doesn't have to happen surely if there is aliens out there they are more advanced and would wipe us out. and if that was their plans they would have done that a long time ago"
"Hey, The Catholic Church, pretty mush said aliens exist.... The Church has a ton of scientists and actively engages in all sorts of research....If only they could get their morality ironed out (I'm a Roman Catholic)"
"B. There is a treaty between extraterrestrials (for now with 3 different alien species) and governments that have nuclear arsenal and sacred artifacts... also its a bit more complicated. Medvedev part is almost accurate, here is the accurate translation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHCSpm2kepo. He was telling the truth yet it had too look like he is joking, specifically when he said "documentary Man in Black". This is 101 tactics of "Hidden plain sight, The Disclosure " and has been happening for the last 60 years minimum all over the planet."
"Thanks for the link and sharing your thoughts. Yes, I feel the same. It can be a joke but it also can be a ridicule tacktic.
For example: We are good friends and I told you in your face that I possess nuclear bomb and I am going to use it on New Years eve ... than take a bite of my sandwich. I think you would smile at me thinking, yeah right."
"I wish the aliens had a YouTube channel.
Lions Ground (verified VIP account by Google) days ago:
Haha don't wish too hard MovieCritic,
Maybe they are already on Youtube and if not, I can ask my sister to join :D "
"A+B.......and maybe it's because the alien are uncomfortable facing our vision of beauty (there are awful) LOL and we are frightened to come face to face with some, and most will point at night and do not want to be unmasked in their plot to hybridisation in sneaky,..to realize that intelligence is not a beauty in itself as the race 'Maitre' or Mazarek or the 'Jighantik' and other P.O.S........but others are well!"
"Love your vids Heathcliff,but please stay with up to date things. These stories are old,and you presenting these videos seems "Desperate"" just my opinion. I know /i don't comment often,but I do watch all of your work. As always,best wishes from the hills of wales. NOS da ;-)"
"Dear Heathcliff. Thanks for your lengthy, I wasn't trying to insult you in any way,I hope you understand that.I love your work,and you do great at what you do.It was just my opinion of that one upload,and I agree with you too. I didn't think in the same as you,but you have helped me realise why you use older video's. :) .Hope you are keeping well my friend,my "Genuine" kind regards as always,Simon from the hills of Wales. :)
Lions Ground2 days ago:
Dear Cwshty-Griff, thank you sincerely for sharing your thoughts on this. I appreciate it sincerely.
I want to provide you feedback.
The reason I did this video is because I published before a video where a politician talked openly about it. I find these important to share. I mentioned in the beginning of the video this is about a footage of 2012 to let the viewer know this is not about something new.
Yes sometimes I do publish old news but I do things always for a reason. The next video will be a follow up with new information about Russia and the extraterrestrial. By doing this, I give myself space to work on the new video and it stays related with the previous video.
Old News
I find old news just as important as new news. When I am bringing new news I happen to find missing links in the old news. Publishing news requires research, without having old news I am, we are, unable to follow the news properly and predict the future.
I see events as blue prints.
I hope my answer satisfy you.
"what do you mean by face them? (fight) that doesn't have to happen surely if there is aliens out there they are more advanced and would wipe us out. and if that was their plans they would have done that a long time ago"
"Hey, The Catholic Church, pretty mush said aliens exist.... The Church has a ton of scientists and actively engages in all sorts of research....If only they could get their morality ironed out (I'm a Roman Catholic)"
"B. There is a treaty between extraterrestrials (for now with 3 different alien species) and governments that have nuclear arsenal and sacred artifacts... also its a bit more complicated. Medvedev part is almost accurate, here is the accurate translation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHCSpm2kepo. He was telling the truth yet it had too look like he is joking, specifically when he said "documentary Man in Black". This is 101 tactics of "Hidden plain sight, The Disclosure " and has been happening for the last 60 years minimum all over the planet."
"Thanks for the link and sharing your thoughts. Yes, I feel the same. It can be a joke but it also can be a ridicule tacktic.
For example: We are good friends and I told you in your face that I possess nuclear bomb and I am going to use it on New Years eve ... than take a bite of my sandwich. I think you would smile at me thinking, yeah right."
"I wish the aliens had a YouTube channel.
Lions Ground (verified VIP account by Google) days ago:
Haha don't wish too hard MovieCritic,
Maybe they are already on Youtube and if not, I can ask my sister to join :D "
"A+B.......and maybe it's because the alien are uncomfortable facing our vision of beauty (there are awful) LOL and we are frightened to come face to face with some, and most will point at night and do not want to be unmasked in their plot to hybridisation in sneaky,..to realize that intelligence is not a beauty in itself as the race 'Maitre' or Mazarek or the 'Jighantik' and other P.O.S........but others are well!"
"Love your vids Heathcliff,but please stay with up to date things. These stories are old,and you presenting these videos seems "Desperate"" just my opinion. I know /i don't comment often,but I do watch all of your work. As always,best wishes from the hills of wales. NOS da ;-)"
"Dear Heathcliff. Thanks for your lengthy, I wasn't trying to insult you in any way,I hope you understand that.I love your work,and you do great at what you do.It was just my opinion of that one upload,and I agree with you too. I didn't think in the same as you,but you have helped me realise why you use older video's. :) .Hope you are keeping well my friend,my "Genuine" kind regards as always,Simon from the hills of Wales. :)
Lions Ground2 days ago:
Dear Cwshty-Griff, thank you sincerely for sharing your thoughts on this. I appreciate it sincerely.
I want to provide you feedback.
The reason I did this video is because I published before a video where a politician talked openly about it. I find these important to share. I mentioned in the beginning of the video this is about a footage of 2012 to let the viewer know this is not about something new.
Yes sometimes I do publish old news but I do things always for a reason. The next video will be a follow up with new information about Russia and the extraterrestrial. By doing this, I give myself space to work on the new video and it stays related with the previous video.
Old News
I find old news just as important as new news. When I am bringing new news I happen to find missing links in the old news. Publishing news requires research, without having old news I am, we are, unable to follow the news properly and predict the future.
I see events as blue prints.
I hope my answer satisfy you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHCSpm2kepo
20 August 2016 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"I would say there is a double treaty and to prevent chaos. The first Treaty is with the world powers, those that control most of the governments and nuclear weapons 2. The Second treaty is with the ETs and the World Powers. I would also argue that some countries may also have exclusive treaties with certain alien species...."
No need to argue about that mate :p
No need to argue about that mate :p
20 August 2016 03:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja valmis tehtud docid.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR014_jY7po
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR014_jY7po
20 August 2016 03:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja muidugi sellest tuleb ka...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQJjjfQsNRg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQJjjfQsNRg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQJjjfQsNRg
20 August 2016 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
KUi lihtsalt Googeldada Yts "canadian disclosure"
siis tuleb ka juba rohkem kui su magu seedida jõuab, kui uus asjas oled..
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=canadian+disclosure
siis tuleb ka juba rohkem kui su magu seedida jõuab, kui uus asjas oled..
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=canadian+disclosure
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=canadian+disclosure
20 August 2016 03:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi see Podesta kandideeriks ise ka hybriidi positsioonile, kui see selleks, seda ei hakka praegu arutama..
20 August 2016 03:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"So every time there's a news article about where Hillary Clinton adviser (and former Bill Clinton chief of staff) John Podesta talks about how President Hillary Clinton would release classified information about UFOs -- as he did again on Thursday -- I'm led to wonder. Is he just taking the joke too far? Has he committed so completely to the bit that now he just sort of answers the questions about space aliens without blinking? Or ... does he think that the government has information about visits from outer space that should be shared more widely?"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/08/the-long-strange-history-of-john-podestas-space-alien-obsession/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/08/the-long-strange-history-of-john-podestas-space-alien-obsession/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/08/the-long-strange-history-of-john-podestas-space-alien-obsession/
20 August 2016 03:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Barack Obama "I am first president on record to even mention Aria 51 officially, so how is that?"
http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004381919/ufos-what-does-the-government-know.html?action=click>ype=vhs&version=vhs-heading&module=vhs®ion=title-area
http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004381919/ufos-what-does-the-government-know.html?action=click>ype=vhs&version=vhs-heading&module=vhs®ion=title-area
http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004381919/ufos-what-does-the-government-know.html?action=click>ype=vhs&version=vhs-heading&module=vhs®ion=title-area
20 August 2016 03:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"It’s disappointing that influential people are helping fan the flames of conspiracy theories that refuse to wilt beneath the weight of truth. One hopes it’s just a campaign stunt, meant to increase Clinton’s popularity among a group of people who might be inclined to vote somewhat more conservatively. Yet given Podesta’s and Clinton’s track records on the topic, it seems more likely the pair really believes there might be something to expose."
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/11/us/politics/hillary-clinton-aliens.html
Päris hea video...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/11/us/politics/hillary-clinton-aliens.html
Päris hea video...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/11/us/politics/hillary-clinton-aliens.html
20 August 2016 03:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui sellegi poolest siis national Geog. lugu ka, näitamaks, neile kes arusaavad, miks ja mis moodi sõnu on vaikselt suunatud ja ilmselgelt MITTE võetud positsiooni mida vaja oleks:
"Clinton, it seems, has at least one foot inside the UFO spacewagon, and in recent weeks has promised to get to the bottom of what’s really going on at Area 51. She says that if she’s elected in November, she’ll open up as many of those documents as she can (some are already available) and reveal the truth about possible extraterrestrial visits to Earth. Meanwhile, John Podesta, her campaign chair, appears to be piloting that spacewagon. A rabid X-Files fan (as am I, no shame), Podesta tweeted, “Finally, my biggest failure of 2014: Once again not securing the #disclosure of the U.F.O. files. #thetruthisstilloutthere,” when he left the Obama White House last year. "
http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2016/05/11/what-hillary-clinton-says-about-aliens-is-totally-misguided/
"Clinton, it seems, has at least one foot inside the UFO spacewagon, and in recent weeks has promised to get to the bottom of what’s really going on at Area 51. She says that if she’s elected in November, she’ll open up as many of those documents as she can (some are already available) and reveal the truth about possible extraterrestrial visits to Earth. Meanwhile, John Podesta, her campaign chair, appears to be piloting that spacewagon. A rabid X-Files fan (as am I, no shame), Podesta tweeted, “Finally, my biggest failure of 2014: Once again not securing the #disclosure of the U.F.O. files. #thetruthisstilloutthere,” when he left the Obama White House last year. "
http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2016/05/11/what-hillary-clinton-says-about-aliens-is-totally-misguided/
http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2016/05/11/what-hillary-clinton-says-about-aliens-is-totally-misguided/
20 August 2016 03:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi suurem osa inimesi ei tea, ei suuda uskuda, ja arusaada, et HistoryChannel, NationalGeographic on ILMA KAHTLUSETA, VÄGA punased (ERITI ajaloo kanal) ja mitte meile antava tõe suunalised, vaid selle ideoloogia ettevaatlikult meile ajudesse vooliva mida just need soovivad, kellele kasuks tuleb Sinu vaimupimedus.
20 August 2016 03:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
She added, “There’s enough stories out there that I don’t think everybody is just sitting in their kitchen making them up.”
https://psmag.com/why-is-hillary-clinton-making-strange-comments-about-aliens-2b9d3e0838fc
https://psmag.com/why-is-hillary-clinton-making-strange-comments-about-aliens-2b9d3e0838fc
20 August 2016 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in a good shape
20 August 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's photo.
heee, am really was thinking for a moment, that it was u
20 August 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo replied to Yulia Kantsian's comment.
nagu unustaksime siin kuidas alles oli võõratel AINUKESENa õigus sinu tütart esimesena roojastada.. ja suur osa eestlasi allusid sellele ja oma lapsed altarile, seksaltarile võõraste olenditega magamiseks saatsid....
osad küll ennnast enne kaevu heitsid aga no..mis teha?
osad küll ennnast enne kaevu heitsid aga no..mis teha?
20 August 2016 02:01
Margus Meigo replied to Yulia Kantsian's comment.
ja siis toovad näiteid kõrvale, et mis loodus ja potensiaal neil oleks olnud ja on... ja siis näiteid kõrvale, mida nad selle asemel teevad, jooksevad lippsudega virtuaal välismaa inimeste järgi, keda nad isegi ei tea, kas inimesed on, kindlalt.
ja siis tõesti tõesti... saavad suurema õiguse siinsetelt õigused võtta.. kui oma hooletu suuga seda anname..
nu ja kui isegi on suu hooletu.. aga siis peavad teod ja mingid tarkused ,arusaamad ka olema mille valguses oma sõnadele uus väärtus anda.. kui seda võimalust antakse...
kuid ega kui on olemas päriselt vaenlane., siis talle piisab eksimuste kogumisest, ja asjade kogumistest mida saab eksimuste pähe või emotsioonide manipulatsiooniks kasutada, ... seni kuni piisavalt tugevat midagi külge pole seotud ka veel.. mis midagi muud tõestaks, ka nende arusaamadele, kes on muu maailma arusaamadest, mitte meile endile ainult
ja siis tõesti tõesti... saavad suurema õiguse siinsetelt õigused võtta.. kui oma hooletu suuga seda anname..
nu ja kui isegi on suu hooletu.. aga siis peavad teod ja mingid tarkused ,arusaamad ka olema mille valguses oma sõnadele uus väärtus anda.. kui seda võimalust antakse...
kuid ega kui on olemas päriselt vaenlane., siis talle piisab eksimuste kogumisest, ja asjade kogumistest mida saab eksimuste pähe või emotsioonide manipulatsiooniks kasutada, ... seni kuni piisavalt tugevat midagi külge pole seotud ka veel.. mis midagi muud tõestaks, ka nende arusaamadele, kes on muu maailma arusaamadest, mitte meile endile ainult
20 August 2016 02:00
Margus Meigo replied to Yulia Kantsian's comment.
ega me seda kindlalt ei tea,
kuid see saab ka ola võimalik, et see sõna on ülitäpne,
siis vahest võib ka tegu olla lihtsalt tavaliste immigrantide, pool tobude, põgenike, tava pättide või mingi inimkaubanduse käest põgeneud ja palju muid võimalusi..
saavad olla ka spioonid, tulnukad või inimsööjad (ja samal ajal mitte biotrash) et nagu jah, identifitseerime ikka siis neid asju sedasi, kui see kindla inimeste suunas on, kui kindlalt teame,
meil, nii vähese rahavahulga osas, ei tasu liigse prhmeldamisega liiga suuri vigu teha,
sest teatavasti, kõik salvestatakse ja mida Sa ütled, kasutatakse Sinu vastu...
ka siis .. ku ivaja mingeid maid vallutada.. siis näidatakse kommunistide kommarite poolt monedekraani pildid, mis mingi väärt inimeste sõbralistis, ja mis vestlusi nad aretasid ja ütlesid.. ja siis kui sedasi noppida.. saab maalida kergesti, sinu oma nime peale päris suure hulga oma maa rahva verd mis siis siin valatakse, olgu see süütuse kile veri või su sõbra veenist... aga SELLEPÄRAST, et seda maad saadi kirjeldada , kui "sellist" kes pole arengu ega morali tasemega ja kes solvas mingeid gruppe või arusaamu, "selliste" siltidega...
et jah, siis peame olema VÄGA kindlad.. kui nii teeme, ja kui oeld, siis tore on, kuid lihtsalt, hoiatuseks, et seda kõike kasutatakse, maaalustes plaanides, mingi rahva väärtuste alandamiseks, ja vabanduste leidmiseks, keda on sobili kävitada.. vaadatakse keskmised kommentaarid läbi ja siis.. kui tunudvad nende perspektiivist, ebahariduslik või ebaArenenud või mitte mõistev, ehk mitte vajalik olema... siis nende eest ka keegi suurem seisma ei hakka.. muidu pannakse suurele silt külge, et te "selliste" eest seisate (tuues siis hullemaid kommmentaari näiteid, mida ikka eestis jägub, selgitades, et nad SELLISE motlemisega ongi...enamuses kõik)
kuid see saab ka ola võimalik, et see sõna on ülitäpne,
siis vahest võib ka tegu olla lihtsalt tavaliste immigrantide, pool tobude, põgenike, tava pättide või mingi inimkaubanduse käest põgeneud ja palju muid võimalusi..
saavad olla ka spioonid, tulnukad või inimsööjad (ja samal ajal mitte biotrash) et nagu jah, identifitseerime ikka siis neid asju sedasi, kui see kindla inimeste suunas on, kui kindlalt teame,
meil, nii vähese rahavahulga osas, ei tasu liigse prhmeldamisega liiga suuri vigu teha,
sest teatavasti, kõik salvestatakse ja mida Sa ütled, kasutatakse Sinu vastu...
ka siis .. ku ivaja mingeid maid vallutada.. siis näidatakse kommunistide kommarite poolt monedekraani pildid, mis mingi väärt inimeste sõbralistis, ja mis vestlusi nad aretasid ja ütlesid.. ja siis kui sedasi noppida.. saab maalida kergesti, sinu oma nime peale päris suure hulga oma maa rahva verd mis siis siin valatakse, olgu see süütuse kile veri või su sõbra veenist... aga SELLEPÄRAST, et seda maad saadi kirjeldada , kui "sellist" kes pole arengu ega morali tasemega ja kes solvas mingeid gruppe või arusaamu, "selliste" siltidega...
et jah, siis peame olema VÄGA kindlad.. kui nii teeme, ja kui oeld, siis tore on, kuid lihtsalt, hoiatuseks, et seda kõike kasutatakse, maaalustes plaanides, mingi rahva väärtuste alandamiseks, ja vabanduste leidmiseks, keda on sobili kävitada.. vaadatakse keskmised kommentaarid läbi ja siis.. kui tunudvad nende perspektiivist, ebahariduslik või ebaArenenud või mitte mõistev, ehk mitte vajalik olema... siis nende eest ka keegi suurem seisma ei hakka.. muidu pannakse suurele silt külge, et te "selliste" eest seisate (tuues siis hullemaid kommmentaari näiteid, mida ikka eestis jägub, selgitades, et nad SELLISE motlemisega ongi...enamuses kõik)
20 August 2016 01:56
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
Hmm.. või et sellise nimega TEDx vestlus, huvitav : )
20 August 2016 01:27
Margus Meigo replied to Lele Reinsoo's comment.
20 August 2016 01:25
Margus Meigo replied to Lele Reinsoo's comment.
20 August 2016 01:24
Margus Meigo replied to Lele Reinsoo's comment.
ah või et milleks..
ehk selleks alustuseks, et osa siinseid aru saaks, kas nad maalt vüi mujalt algselt ja kui Maalt, maa jaoks tehtud, siis aidaku lennata neil ära kellel vaja, kuid samas, miks peame laskma ainult omal maalt röövida laskma igasugu naisi ja laskma siin igasugustel oma paaritus ja liigiaretus programme korraldada (jah, muidugi , SENIKAUA nei lsee oigus, kui ei ole ühtset maist, MAALIST asutust, kes kogu inimkonna eest seista julgeks, ja suudaks, ning vastutuse võtta, mida tohib ja ei tohi inimestega teha, eri dimensioonides... seni kui pole aga ÜHTEGI ühtset maakera valitsejat, jeerum.. miks nad sellist kohta tõsiselt peaksid LIIGINA võtma, kui pole isegi teemasi, mille eest kogu liik ühtselt vankumatult seisaks üheskoos ja ühineks, ühedele ja samadele arusaamadele... ... et muidugi päris inimesed ühinevad kes arusaajad... kuid paljud kes ei ole arusaajad, ühinevad nendega kes arvavad olema ka oma vanemad või hea inspiratsiooni allkad, tuttavad... kuid kes tegelikult on HOOPIS muust liigis vaimupoolt ka.. ja HOOPIS muu agendaga, ja mitte küll pahaga, aga lihtsalt inimeste vastase või selle liigi eest mitte esmajoones seisvad olendid... ja kelle pihta ei sobi saata kurje inimõtteid nagu "kahekeelne" "valetaja" "jõhkard.." või muud sellist, sest nemad teevad OMA tööd, OMA liigi eesmärkide nimel ja selline asi nagu "valetamine" isegi , seda pole paljudel liikidel olemas isegi, sest see mida me peame valetamiseks, on neile lihtsalt SIIN MEIE KEELE RUUMIS kasutatav keeletehnoloogia, mille kaudu saab oma subjekte, objekte, eesmärke liigutada ja reguleerida. Et kui teed mingile versioonile inimestele 1 2 3 ja kolm korda pai ja "naeratad" siis nemad hakkavad lopuks ise oma liigi vastu sõdima ja hoopis neile tundmatude põhimõtete eest seisma, kui neile nii ütled, ...isegi ei pea ütlema, et nad nii tegema peavad, nad muhelevad või imestavad, või teadvustavad, sest piisab ku iteed 1 2 3... ja isegi pai pole vahest vaja.. selgitad mis iganes asja neile mis sa ise olevat ja siis nad ise Su eest seisma hakkavad ja oma liigi vastu lähevad kasvõi, vihasena, surmani välja kui vaja, kaasates suure hulga... või siis viies sünnitus rituaalide või vaimuväärastumisteni suure hulga kaasa, ise, ilma, et peaks suurt manipulatsiooni ja tehnoloogilist vaeva nägema, sest inimene.. usuloomana... kui usku valesti kasutama hakkab.. siis usub mida iganes.. ja viob oma usuga ka teisi, kuhuiganes voolupidi kaasa... ja polegi vaja, et millionid koos, ühes pundis, piisab kui mituküment tuhat projekti, ehk inimest, viivad enda ümber mingi hulga inimesi liikuma, sinna suunas, kuhu mingile muule liigile vaja on... ja veelkord, meil ei ole motet siin enamuste Nende peale üldse tige ega solvunud olla, sest nad ei registreeru ega "motle" ega toimeta samadel eesmärkidel, põhimotetel ja arusaamadel kui need mis Sa ise ennast usud toimetavat milliste uskumuste ja arusaamade keskel... ei nad on nad.. aga meie oma uhkuse, ülbuse, ignorantsuse ja hoolimatuse süü on, et ei viitsi enam uuridagi, kas magame inimesega või kellega... ja kui pole inimene, kui saaame selle selgeks, siis ei pea ju magamist pooleni jõtma kui kiim suur või aru väike või muud vajadused ja teadasaamis himud, kuid siis teadvusta mida teed ja pane OMA liik ikka ka kõrgele kohale väärtuse osas, sest pea meeeles, NEMAD tulid siia MEID noppima, ehk meil siin on väärtus... ja mis see on.. ja mis on kasu mis neist saaksime.. ja kas hammas peale hakkab... ja ehk on neid mitmeid liike ka, kes siis juba ise edasi lendavad, kui märkavad, meid ärkamast... jättes veel teisi shaakaleid, ja muid olendeid ja oma soovigaseid siia kellega meid jagelema jätta, aega viitma... seniks kuni nad oma asjad kokku pakivad.. ja siis ootavad, et kas me ennast õhkame, paaniliselt ei tea kelle suunas sdasse minnes, tihti ka iseenda vastu, eelkoige, ... voi kasvame ülesse.. väärtustame uue korguse, ja siis alles tulevikus, saame nendega kas siis sõjas või partnerluses, ajutises partnerluses kohtuda, ja oma hybriidedega võidelda või neid kaitsta, kui tarvis, kui usume, et suudame neid ise mahalöömise asemel paremini ümberaretada, planeedile vääriliseks, ja mitte ainult kahurilihaks söötmaks siia tulnud röööövikutele... kuid kindlasti ka seda tuleb teha ja arvestada, kui oma kodutütreid vaja eelkõige kaitsta.. ja kui vastane on suur ja võimas ja ohvrit nõuab.. siis anna neile nende oma sohilapsi enne... kuid ka neile anna kaasa... tarkus osadele, arusaamaks kes nad on ja mida tegema lähevad.. eks osa vist peab jääma ka naiiivselt minevad... vist vist vist see võimalikus olemas, seni kuni oma Soo (ja ka soo) korda, ja tugevamaks saame üldse, et oma PÄRIS inimlikuse säilimise plaani pidada oskaksime ja väärtuslikult nagu Raili Kuningas omal maal käiksime, nii kuningsa ees kui ka kuningana kui vaja, Maailmavalitseja (ja alamvalitsejate) ees. )
ehk selleks alustuseks, et osa siinseid aru saaks, kas nad maalt vüi mujalt algselt ja kui Maalt, maa jaoks tehtud, siis aidaku lennata neil ära kellel vaja, kuid samas, miks peame laskma ainult omal maalt röövida laskma igasugu naisi ja laskma siin igasugustel oma paaritus ja liigiaretus programme korraldada (jah, muidugi , SENIKAUA nei lsee oigus, kui ei ole ühtset maist, MAALIST asutust, kes kogu inimkonna eest seista julgeks, ja suudaks, ning vastutuse võtta, mida tohib ja ei tohi inimestega teha, eri dimensioonides... seni kui pole aga ÜHTEGI ühtset maakera valitsejat, jeerum.. miks nad sellist kohta tõsiselt peaksid LIIGINA võtma, kui pole isegi teemasi, mille eest kogu liik ühtselt vankumatult seisaks üheskoos ja ühineks, ühedele ja samadele arusaamadele... ... et muidugi päris inimesed ühinevad kes arusaajad... kuid paljud kes ei ole arusaajad, ühinevad nendega kes arvavad olema ka oma vanemad või hea inspiratsiooni allkad, tuttavad... kuid kes tegelikult on HOOPIS muust liigis vaimupoolt ka.. ja HOOPIS muu agendaga, ja mitte küll pahaga, aga lihtsalt inimeste vastase või selle liigi eest mitte esmajoones seisvad olendid... ja kelle pihta ei sobi saata kurje inimõtteid nagu "kahekeelne" "valetaja" "jõhkard.." või muud sellist, sest nemad teevad OMA tööd, OMA liigi eesmärkide nimel ja selline asi nagu "valetamine" isegi , seda pole paljudel liikidel olemas isegi, sest see mida me peame valetamiseks, on neile lihtsalt SIIN MEIE KEELE RUUMIS kasutatav keeletehnoloogia, mille kaudu saab oma subjekte, objekte, eesmärke liigutada ja reguleerida. Et kui teed mingile versioonile inimestele 1 2 3 ja kolm korda pai ja "naeratad" siis nemad hakkavad lopuks ise oma liigi vastu sõdima ja hoopis neile tundmatude põhimõtete eest seisma, kui neile nii ütled, ...isegi ei pea ütlema, et nad nii tegema peavad, nad muhelevad või imestavad, või teadvustavad, sest piisab ku iteed 1 2 3... ja isegi pai pole vahest vaja.. selgitad mis iganes asja neile mis sa ise olevat ja siis nad ise Su eest seisma hakkavad ja oma liigi vastu lähevad kasvõi, vihasena, surmani välja kui vaja, kaasates suure hulga... või siis viies sünnitus rituaalide või vaimuväärastumisteni suure hulga kaasa, ise, ilma, et peaks suurt manipulatsiooni ja tehnoloogilist vaeva nägema, sest inimene.. usuloomana... kui usku valesti kasutama hakkab.. siis usub mida iganes.. ja viob oma usuga ka teisi, kuhuiganes voolupidi kaasa... ja polegi vaja, et millionid koos, ühes pundis, piisab kui mituküment tuhat projekti, ehk inimest, viivad enda ümber mingi hulga inimesi liikuma, sinna suunas, kuhu mingile muule liigile vaja on... ja veelkord, meil ei ole motet siin enamuste Nende peale üldse tige ega solvunud olla, sest nad ei registreeru ega "motle" ega toimeta samadel eesmärkidel, põhimotetel ja arusaamadel kui need mis Sa ise ennast usud toimetavat milliste uskumuste ja arusaamade keskel... ei nad on nad.. aga meie oma uhkuse, ülbuse, ignorantsuse ja hoolimatuse süü on, et ei viitsi enam uuridagi, kas magame inimesega või kellega... ja kui pole inimene, kui saaame selle selgeks, siis ei pea ju magamist pooleni jõtma kui kiim suur või aru väike või muud vajadused ja teadasaamis himud, kuid siis teadvusta mida teed ja pane OMA liik ikka ka kõrgele kohale väärtuse osas, sest pea meeeles, NEMAD tulid siia MEID noppima, ehk meil siin on väärtus... ja mis see on.. ja mis on kasu mis neist saaksime.. ja kas hammas peale hakkab... ja ehk on neid mitmeid liike ka, kes siis juba ise edasi lendavad, kui märkavad, meid ärkamast... jättes veel teisi shaakaleid, ja muid olendeid ja oma soovigaseid siia kellega meid jagelema jätta, aega viitma... seniks kuni nad oma asjad kokku pakivad.. ja siis ootavad, et kas me ennast õhkame, paaniliselt ei tea kelle suunas sdasse minnes, tihti ka iseenda vastu, eelkoige, ... voi kasvame ülesse.. väärtustame uue korguse, ja siis alles tulevikus, saame nendega kas siis sõjas või partnerluses, ajutises partnerluses kohtuda, ja oma hybriidedega võidelda või neid kaitsta, kui tarvis, kui usume, et suudame neid ise mahalöömise asemel paremini ümberaretada, planeedile vääriliseks, ja mitte ainult kahurilihaks söötmaks siia tulnud röööövikutele... kuid kindlasti ka seda tuleb teha ja arvestada, kui oma kodutütreid vaja eelkõige kaitsta.. ja kui vastane on suur ja võimas ja ohvrit nõuab.. siis anna neile nende oma sohilapsi enne... kuid ka neile anna kaasa... tarkus osadele, arusaamaks kes nad on ja mida tegema lähevad.. eks osa vist peab jääma ka naiiivselt minevad... vist vist vist see võimalikus olemas, seni kuni oma Soo (ja ka soo) korda, ja tugevamaks saame üldse, et oma PÄRIS inimlikuse säilimise plaani pidada oskaksime ja väärtuslikult nagu Raili Kuningas omal maal käiksime, nii kuningsa ees kui ka kuningana kui vaja, Maailmavalitseja (ja alamvalitsejate) ees. )
20 August 2016 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to Lele Reinsoo's comment.
Sa ütled seda nii karmilt, et tundub peaaegu, paranoiliselt ülepaisutatud liberaalse ühiskonna jaoks
kuid kahjuks just nii see see kirjeldus lühidalt kokkuvõttes on, kui veel pehmelt ja tagasihoidlikult rääkida,
mitte isegi puudutama hakates erinevaid olendeid ja võime, kelle jaoks on vaja selliseid naiivseid kuid moraalideta naisi ja moraalideta ning julmi mehi, kelle kaudu oma Vaimu seeme neisse avavustesse panna, kuhu nii odavalt (soodsalt) ja sügavale (sh. kehasse) miskit muud vallutust kaudu ei saa,
tagajärjeks veel on see, et ekslikult hakatakse mehi materdama ja nende vastu olema rohkem kui vaja, ühtse "mehed" pulgaga ning unustatakse ära, ei julgeta unustada, et nad ju ei vaadanud korralikult eelmisega silma, hinge ega hoidnud käsi, aastatest rääkimata aga isegi mitte kuusi enne...
ja siis IMESTAVAD, nutavad, süüdistavad ... ja süüdistavad veel üldiselt kõiki mehi..
Kui mehed millegis süüdi on, siis tõesti, pealehakkamise puuduses et selliseid "meeste" kes ennast Naisest üle peavad, seeme lõplikult kustutatud veel pole,
et neile habemetudele pole piisavalt avalikult öeldud ja selgitatud, kes nad on .. ja kes nad potensiaalselt olla võiksid, meie liigi jaoks, kui ennast õigesse meelesuunda sätivad, tunnistamaks, et nad mitmed ka ise, ammugi ei ole enam tehtud tavalisest mehe ja naise puust,
kuid kuna veri on paksem kui... siis Hing ja mõnel mõistus veel selline alles, mis saab aru saada, meie vigadest, oma alandlikuse vajalikusest ja suurema julguse ja jõu omamisest, aga hoopis aatelistematel suundadel, mille aluseid elus hoides, need ilmtingimatta, ise ennast uuendavad, värskendavad ja alati aastatuhandeid samale tervislikule kohale jäävad.
Veel isegi ei teata, mis on kosmos, ja kes seal on ning kas meid oodatakse ning kas see on lõks kuhu meid tõmatakse, kas siin maal ammu olendid olnud või on.. et isegi seda ühtlaselt ei suudeta mõista ja arusaada, aga nagu pimeidioot loomad klopsivad oma rakette kokku ja siis suure tulesaatel lendavad millimeeter millimeetri haaval kaugemale oma potensiaalsest ainukesest kodust.
Mitusada aastat peaks selle tehnologia osas pausi tegema, väikselt lihtsalt peenmateeria laborid vast alles jätma, ning suur inseneeride ideed ja plaaanid (sildade jms ehituseks, tulekahjude kustutamised, mass hulluste peatamiseks jms tehnoloogiad) kuid eelkõige, .. peaks paarsada aastat praeguse tarkuse juures, uuesti saama nendes kohtades maailmas toiduvarud ja toituvarude tekitamise tarkuse uuesti inimeste juurtesse,
ning samal ajal ka shamaani ja usuasju elementaarselt selgeks tehes..
siis oleme õigesti ja suts väärikamalt valmis minema, ja vastuvõtma seda mida meile nädata soovitakse,
praegu.. aga ühiskonnas.. mis iganes grupp kuidas iganes maistele end selgitaks... siis alati mingid muud suured grupid jäätakse ebasoodsasse olukorda kes on ka head ja suurt tööd tehtud , südamega, omateada.
Kuid praegu.. tormatakse, selgees edasi... ja ei julgeta moista, et see mida näevad on juba see mis AINULT NEIL möödas ja mida NEIL selle nurgaalt kas siis lubatud või õnnestunud näha..
Kui nägu ees minna, siis muidugi suund on lihtne ja ühene.. kuid arusaamaks, enamusel, kumbapidi nad edasi liiguvad ja kelle jõul ja nõul.. eks see juba raske raske..
Lihtne analüüsida aga selle põhjal, kas inimene on iidsete ja elementaarsete maa soovide ja vajadustega kursis ja nende poole teel mis iganes tehnoloogia või filosoofia kaudu ta sinnani teisi või ennast tuua soovib..
sest isegi need, suht jalutud veinikärbsed, kes tormavad valguse poole, aga unustavad kust nad tulevad ja miks nad siin olid, lisaks sellele, et arusaada kuhu nad lopuks , LÕPUKS jõudma ka peavad... kuids mida vajalikku siin maal enne selle kahepunkti vahel ja mis moodi teha.. see jäätakse monede paljude poolt vahele, arvaesm et jumal armuline ja milleks talle külll seda maad ja selle aitamist vaja..
kuid kahjuks just nii see see kirjeldus lühidalt kokkuvõttes on, kui veel pehmelt ja tagasihoidlikult rääkida,
mitte isegi puudutama hakates erinevaid olendeid ja võime, kelle jaoks on vaja selliseid naiivseid kuid moraalideta naisi ja moraalideta ning julmi mehi, kelle kaudu oma Vaimu seeme neisse avavustesse panna, kuhu nii odavalt (soodsalt) ja sügavale (sh. kehasse) miskit muud vallutust kaudu ei saa,
tagajärjeks veel on see, et ekslikult hakatakse mehi materdama ja nende vastu olema rohkem kui vaja, ühtse "mehed" pulgaga ning unustatakse ära, ei julgeta unustada, et nad ju ei vaadanud korralikult eelmisega silma, hinge ega hoidnud käsi, aastatest rääkimata aga isegi mitte kuusi enne...
ja siis IMESTAVAD, nutavad, süüdistavad ... ja süüdistavad veel üldiselt kõiki mehi..
Kui mehed millegis süüdi on, siis tõesti, pealehakkamise puuduses et selliseid "meeste" kes ennast Naisest üle peavad, seeme lõplikult kustutatud veel pole,
et neile habemetudele pole piisavalt avalikult öeldud ja selgitatud, kes nad on .. ja kes nad potensiaalselt olla võiksid, meie liigi jaoks, kui ennast õigesse meelesuunda sätivad, tunnistamaks, et nad mitmed ka ise, ammugi ei ole enam tehtud tavalisest mehe ja naise puust,
kuid kuna veri on paksem kui... siis Hing ja mõnel mõistus veel selline alles, mis saab aru saada, meie vigadest, oma alandlikuse vajalikusest ja suurema julguse ja jõu omamisest, aga hoopis aatelistematel suundadel, mille aluseid elus hoides, need ilmtingimatta, ise ennast uuendavad, värskendavad ja alati aastatuhandeid samale tervislikule kohale jäävad.
Veel isegi ei teata, mis on kosmos, ja kes seal on ning kas meid oodatakse ning kas see on lõks kuhu meid tõmatakse, kas siin maal ammu olendid olnud või on.. et isegi seda ühtlaselt ei suudeta mõista ja arusaada, aga nagu pimeidioot loomad klopsivad oma rakette kokku ja siis suure tulesaatel lendavad millimeeter millimeetri haaval kaugemale oma potensiaalsest ainukesest kodust.
Mitusada aastat peaks selle tehnologia osas pausi tegema, väikselt lihtsalt peenmateeria laborid vast alles jätma, ning suur inseneeride ideed ja plaaanid (sildade jms ehituseks, tulekahjude kustutamised, mass hulluste peatamiseks jms tehnoloogiad) kuid eelkõige, .. peaks paarsada aastat praeguse tarkuse juures, uuesti saama nendes kohtades maailmas toiduvarud ja toituvarude tekitamise tarkuse uuesti inimeste juurtesse,
ning samal ajal ka shamaani ja usuasju elementaarselt selgeks tehes..
siis oleme õigesti ja suts väärikamalt valmis minema, ja vastuvõtma seda mida meile nädata soovitakse,
praegu.. aga ühiskonnas.. mis iganes grupp kuidas iganes maistele end selgitaks... siis alati mingid muud suured grupid jäätakse ebasoodsasse olukorda kes on ka head ja suurt tööd tehtud , südamega, omateada.
Kuid praegu.. tormatakse, selgees edasi... ja ei julgeta moista, et see mida näevad on juba see mis AINULT NEIL möödas ja mida NEIL selle nurgaalt kas siis lubatud või õnnestunud näha..
Kui nägu ees minna, siis muidugi suund on lihtne ja ühene.. kuid arusaamaks, enamusel, kumbapidi nad edasi liiguvad ja kelle jõul ja nõul.. eks see juba raske raske..
Lihtne analüüsida aga selle põhjal, kas inimene on iidsete ja elementaarsete maa soovide ja vajadustega kursis ja nende poole teel mis iganes tehnoloogia või filosoofia kaudu ta sinnani teisi või ennast tuua soovib..
sest isegi need, suht jalutud veinikärbsed, kes tormavad valguse poole, aga unustavad kust nad tulevad ja miks nad siin olid, lisaks sellele, et arusaada kuhu nad lopuks , LÕPUKS jõudma ka peavad... kuids mida vajalikku siin maal enne selle kahepunkti vahel ja mis moodi teha.. see jäätakse monede paljude poolt vahele, arvaesm et jumal armuline ja milleks talle külll seda maad ja selle aitamist vaja..
20 August 2016 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Tutvus
Аирет Тамме Тамме kui sa sellel tõesti pointi ja asjalikust ei näe, siis Sa oled liiga noor veel, mentaalselt, et aru saada.
Kuid kui mottega aeglaselt loed, mediteerid sutsu, siis võib koitma hakata19 August 2016 23:26
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Katrin's post.
Group: Tutvus
Lihtsalt tutvusi, sellise pildi juurde?
Nagu ja ei mingeid täpsustusi, enesekirjeldust ega midagi?
Milline veider maailm, kas siis soovid igast pahna endale, ja mitte välja valida PARIMAID... kuidas nendeni jõudma peaks, kui ees nõudmisi ja soove pole, või enesekirjeldust mille kaudu teine inimene suhestuda saaks?
On ju ometi igal ühel oma isiksus ja olemus lisaks imeilusale välimusele19 August 2016 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on Neiu Maria's post.
Group: Tutvus
Post oli umbes ja JUBA uuesit?
Mis nende meestega tegid kes juba kirjutasid siis ?
Ma ei moista.. mis juttu ja milleks siis, kui suhteid ja sopru, vestlusi isegi kauem hoida ei suudeta kui... kui ammu see oli, aasta tagasi ?19 August 2016 23:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And people still keep being surprised , middle of 2016
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3109313/security/alleged-nsa-data-dump-contain-hacking-tools-rarely-seen.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3109313/security/alleged-nsa-data-dump-contain-hacking-tools-rarely-seen.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3109313/security/alleged-nsa-data-dump-contain-hacking-tools-rarely-seen.html
19 August 2016 18:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
like mind and remote view technology, spiritual technology etc. Everything technological can be released easy.. as it is controllable and will not scare people in the end, to change their world view.. but when we come in to domains of things, that school says can not be... these must be kept in secret some time more, many say, as we have not figured out how to calm down public and other forces that will be bothered by it...
19 August 2016 16:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Really small list really, just with some basic tools
there is Hundreds more.. and some on development, and some proper secret also, not the kind of secret that will be leaked to help others to prepare..
there is Hundreds more.. and some on development, and some proper secret also, not the kind of secret that will be leaked to help others to prepare..
19 August 2016 16:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tänud mõistmast!
18 August 2016 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on Martin A. Noorkõiv's post.
Kuigi, ma saan Sinust selles suhtes aru, et Su tunded on õigel kohal, alati on mõistlik kaasa tunda,
kuid vahest unustame, ühele ettesöödetud asjale keskendudes, mis sugused kurjad plaanid tegelikult meie ümber toimuvad.. ja miks nad näitavad neid asju, mille osas me ei saa midagi teha, mille osas tekibki jõuetu tunne ja ainult viha, ühe või teise valitsuse vastu...
Kui keegi peruu uudise alguses oleks kohe julgenud meediasse panna, oleks väga lihtsalt kohale sõitnud üle maailma sinna , julgelt , igasuguseid ja kogu asja peatanud, Sellepärast ei räägitud.
Syyria osas, saab rääkida mida iganes, sest on tehtud nii ,et Sa ei saaks midagi teha. (midagi ikka saab.. eks ma selles osas ka toimeta suts..).
Kuid jah, ja muidu on veel palju õudsamaid ja julmemaid lugusi, kuid need juba läheksid üle piiri tavaühiskonna taluvuspiirist, mida julgetakse uskuda ja arusaada, reaalsustest kus elatakse, seega neid siin ei jaga.. ainuüksi eelmise jutu väärtuse sälitamise mõttes (teades kuidas inimese aju, loogika ja "reasoning" ning emotsioonilised reaktsioonid töötavad...) .. kuid jah, teatke,et see, mida meie silme eest suudetakse ära hoida ja kõrvade eest... see mida me teame ja näeme, on Kukepea, sellekõrval mida tegelikult inimestega tehakse, ja millle jaoks meid tehakse..
kuid vahest unustame, ühele ettesöödetud asjale keskendudes, mis sugused kurjad plaanid tegelikult meie ümber toimuvad.. ja miks nad näitavad neid asju, mille osas me ei saa midagi teha, mille osas tekibki jõuetu tunne ja ainult viha, ühe või teise valitsuse vastu...
Kui keegi peruu uudise alguses oleks kohe julgenud meediasse panna, oleks väga lihtsalt kohale sõitnud üle maailma sinna , julgelt , igasuguseid ja kogu asja peatanud, Sellepärast ei räägitud.
Syyria osas, saab rääkida mida iganes, sest on tehtud nii ,et Sa ei saaks midagi teha. (midagi ikka saab.. eks ma selles osas ka toimeta suts..).
Kuid jah, ja muidu on veel palju õudsamaid ja julmemaid lugusi, kuid need juba läheksid üle piiri tavaühiskonna taluvuspiirist, mida julgetakse uskuda ja arusaada, reaalsustest kus elatakse, seega neid siin ei jaga.. ainuüksi eelmise jutu väärtuse sälitamise mõttes (teades kuidas inimese aju, loogika ja "reasoning" ning emotsioonilised reaktsioonid töötavad...) .. kuid jah, teatke,et see, mida meie silme eest suudetakse ära hoida ja kõrvade eest... see mida me teame ja näeme, on Kukepea, sellekõrval mida tegelikult inimestega tehakse, ja millle jaoks meid tehakse..
18 August 2016 19:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Michael Branch need ei ole õige mehe juuksed ja habet ka ees pole, mida iganes needmehed toodavad, ei ole lõpliku suure väärtusega, suures looduslikus ja usulises plaanis,
eriti kui tegu Lutheri jms
eriti kui tegu Lutheri jms
18 August 2016 19:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mõned asjad on küll suts rasvakriidiga kirjutatud mul, kuid see selleks,et suunast ja potensiaalist arusaada oleks..
et kas Sa tead, või mis arvad, miks Peruulasi, alles siin meie eluaeg veel endiselt, sundsteriliseeriti ?
Mis on vastus?
et kas Sa tead, või mis arvad, miks Peruulasi, alles siin meie eluaeg veel endiselt, sundsteriliseeriti ?
Mis on vastus?
18 August 2016 19:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Propotsooniliselt vähendab,
Kui sul piinatakse kogu maailmas kokku, 10 et last, kohas kus on piinamise laager. Mis kõigile aastatuhandeid teada.
Siis see on jubeduse tipp.
Kui aga Sul promotakse 14/7 ENAMSUTES riikides, telekast, laste piinamist ja selle taolisi filosoofiaid ja opetusi, ning siis ametlikult, koos nende " liberaalsete maailmaMajandusepäästjatega" piinatakse umbes 25 korda rohkem lapsi, vaikuses, teadlikus suletuses, ehk siis 250 nd last (propotsiooniliselt umbes sama suurus)
siis uus "tase" mis on jubeduse tipp, on VÄGA mitmetes kordades suurenenud ja hullenenud.
KUi kellegil on peas täid, siis on see jube, aga kui tal on veel vähk ka, siis needtäid ei ole enam, jubeduse tipp ja suurim, suurem mure, vaid on veel lisaks, midagi väiksemat.
Selles on asi, kuidas sellest nii raske aru saada on ?
Veel näiteid... kui keegi varastab, nälja olukorrras (sõjaolukorras) pätsi leiba päevas selverist, siis sellest hullem, on kui seda organiseeritult, koos riikide ametliku toega, tehakse 25 korda suuremalt, palju väärtuslikumas väikses rahulikus eco poes.
ja siis kui valitakse, et suurtemate kuritegude ja hullemate asjade mahasalgamiseks, räägitakse selverist, sest see maiselt suur ja kõigile tundub korda minevat...
ja kuna vaja likvideerida seda eco poodi salaja muu kurja taustal.. ja sellest meelega ei räägita... siis miks vaja meil edasi promoda, ja jagada seda organiseeritud kurjust, propakandat ja jama, mida me teame, mille osas ei ole võimalik peaaegu enamustel inimestel arusaama peas selgeks saada , mis toimub... kes on süüdi ja miks.
Peruulaste osas aga ei ole eriti suurt kahtlust.. ei ole 20+ eri poolt ja eri arvamust, o väga vähe eri arvamusi ja otsesed inimesed teada, koos liberaalsete parteidega kes seda õigustasid ja ametlikud uudiste kanalid ja valitsused, kes seda pidid teadlikult maha salgama, lubama ja ... suurim küsimus jääb... Kristjan Miks
et Miks nii ? Miks nad seda tegid.. mis on TEGELIK põhjus... ei sa olla lõplikukspõjuseks ainult selle väärt metsa mahavõtmine ja raha... vaid mis on selletaga, kui nii jubeda plaani tehaks,e teadlikus koostöös ja vaikuses...
Ja steriliseerimine valiti ka selleks, et see ei jäta ühtegi jälge maha, miks nad välja surid...
Kuuliaugud, nälgimised, kaltsused riided jms... see aga hea material millega uusi sõdasi alustada hiljem... ku iaga soovid vaikida, ja unustada mingi kultuuri,kes inkade ja maajade asjadest veel vähestena isiklikult tevad... nad viakigistada enne kui nad internetti oma jutuga jõuavad ja meediasse..
jah.. kui saame aru, miks neid likvideeritakse, (ja see 95 kuni 2000 polnud kaugeltki esimene laine...) et siis saame ka aru, mida meil karta...
Taimetarkused on ühedasjad, mida kõige enam kardetakse,sest need saavad tõelisi kogemusi ja tarkusi Jumalamaailmast tuua, lisaks rahvalood ja audentne ajalugu mille säilitamises peruulased on meistrid olnud..
Kuid jah.. eks suur osa iidseid tarkade gruppe, need ammu unustatud, euroopa olevat kunagi täis olnud neid eri tarku gruppe, kes kõik likvideeriti,sadu, teadlikult, alles jäeti ainult need keda tulevikus kasutada saab
Kui sul piinatakse kogu maailmas kokku, 10 et last, kohas kus on piinamise laager. Mis kõigile aastatuhandeid teada.
Siis see on jubeduse tipp.
Kui aga Sul promotakse 14/7 ENAMSUTES riikides, telekast, laste piinamist ja selle taolisi filosoofiaid ja opetusi, ning siis ametlikult, koos nende " liberaalsete maailmaMajandusepäästjatega" piinatakse umbes 25 korda rohkem lapsi, vaikuses, teadlikus suletuses, ehk siis 250 nd last (propotsiooniliselt umbes sama suurus)
siis uus "tase" mis on jubeduse tipp, on VÄGA mitmetes kordades suurenenud ja hullenenud.
KUi kellegil on peas täid, siis on see jube, aga kui tal on veel vähk ka, siis needtäid ei ole enam, jubeduse tipp ja suurim, suurem mure, vaid on veel lisaks, midagi väiksemat.
Selles on asi, kuidas sellest nii raske aru saada on ?
Veel näiteid... kui keegi varastab, nälja olukorrras (sõjaolukorras) pätsi leiba päevas selverist, siis sellest hullem, on kui seda organiseeritult, koos riikide ametliku toega, tehakse 25 korda suuremalt, palju väärtuslikumas väikses rahulikus eco poes.
ja siis kui valitakse, et suurtemate kuritegude ja hullemate asjade mahasalgamiseks, räägitakse selverist, sest see maiselt suur ja kõigile tundub korda minevat...
ja kuna vaja likvideerida seda eco poodi salaja muu kurja taustal.. ja sellest meelega ei räägita... siis miks vaja meil edasi promoda, ja jagada seda organiseeritud kurjust, propakandat ja jama, mida me teame, mille osas ei ole võimalik peaaegu enamustel inimestel arusaama peas selgeks saada , mis toimub... kes on süüdi ja miks.
Peruulaste osas aga ei ole eriti suurt kahtlust.. ei ole 20+ eri poolt ja eri arvamust, o väga vähe eri arvamusi ja otsesed inimesed teada, koos liberaalsete parteidega kes seda õigustasid ja ametlikud uudiste kanalid ja valitsused, kes seda pidid teadlikult maha salgama, lubama ja ... suurim küsimus jääb... Kristjan Miks
et Miks nii ? Miks nad seda tegid.. mis on TEGELIK põhjus... ei sa olla lõplikukspõjuseks ainult selle väärt metsa mahavõtmine ja raha... vaid mis on selletaga, kui nii jubeda plaani tehaks,e teadlikus koostöös ja vaikuses...
Ja steriliseerimine valiti ka selleks, et see ei jäta ühtegi jälge maha, miks nad välja surid...
Kuuliaugud, nälgimised, kaltsused riided jms... see aga hea material millega uusi sõdasi alustada hiljem... ku iaga soovid vaikida, ja unustada mingi kultuuri,kes inkade ja maajade asjadest veel vähestena isiklikult tevad... nad viakigistada enne kui nad internetti oma jutuga jõuavad ja meediasse..
jah.. kui saame aru, miks neid likvideeritakse, (ja see 95 kuni 2000 polnud kaugeltki esimene laine...) et siis saame ka aru, mida meil karta...
Taimetarkused on ühedasjad, mida kõige enam kardetakse,sest need saavad tõelisi kogemusi ja tarkusi Jumalamaailmast tuua, lisaks rahvalood ja audentne ajalugu mille säilitamises peruulased on meistrid olnud..
Kuid jah.. eks suur osa iidseid tarkade gruppe, need ammu unustatud, euroopa olevat kunagi täis olnud neid eri tarku gruppe, kes kõik likvideeriti,sadu, teadlikult, alles jäeti ainult need keda tulevikus kasutada saab
18 August 2016 19:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eestit nad sedasi likvideerida ei saa (need kellele ühtset kultuuride vabat utoopiat vaja on inimlaborite , inimhybriidide kasvatuseks ja meie energia tarbimiseks, et meid oleks lihtsam "karjatada") sest me oleme internetis ja üks paarikümnest riigist kes kosmose projektides kaasa teeb ja veel palju muud.
Kuid meie likvideerimiseks kasutatakse Eestlaseid ise, nõrgendades mehe ja naise vahelist armastust ja kiindumist, nõrgestades maiseid ja talulikke arusaame ja nõrgestades arusaame, et me oma kodus, võime oma esiisade kombel, ja suunas, alati positsioooni kelle iganes välise ideoloogia suunas võtta, naiste , metsade ja kodu kaitseks, terve mõistuse kaitseks ja vaimu arendamiseks.,
Kuna see osa, on suht nõrgaks läinud, ja need sunniviisilised Eestlaste likvideerimisplaanid, kus esimese öö õigus välis vallutajatel siin kunagi olid ja muud segunemised.. et need meist vorpinud pool tavapärase valge-eurooplaste massi, mis enam ei eraldugi varsti, kui Finno-Ugri, üli erilise keele ja kultuuri varamuga iidne südamelt tark rahvas.. viad jookseb sama totakalt nagu part, ori, lips kaelas ühe posti juurestteise kuhu kästakse, kellaaja pealt.. .
Selliseid jah, nad ise endi jõu likvideerinud, taastamatult varsti ,kui veel viimased vanurid kaovad..
jääb alles ianult poliitiline Estonia, mis saab tegema ja olema nii nagu talle öeldakse, "vabariigist" asi kaugel.
Isegi ravimtaimi me oma riigis, ei julge ise sätestada mida oma rahvas on piisavalt tark kasutama õppida ja mida mitte, igas asjas ... isegi puukuure ei lubata ehitada projektita ja tavalist põllumajanduslikku kanepit pead ka PRANTSLASTE jms loa alusel ostma, steriliseeritud seemneid, ühe aasta kaupa, .. iga aasta peab uued seemned ostma, sest nii võõõras maa ütles meile, et teie eestlased, iseei tohi aretada seemet ega seda mulda panna, meie ütleme millal ja kui palju ja mida panete... ja me siin noogutame... ja need irvitasid, ja mõtlesid
"läkski läbi, on ikka lambad lupardid... see näitab mis tase ja arusaam neil on.. nüüd saab julgelt kanna kurku suruda, kui nad nii elemntaarsete asjade osas juba koogutavad..."
siin ei loe mingid kommunistliku, ateistliku liberaalse EU pool vallutajate kokkupandud viisnurga, pentagrammi seatud reeglid, meie saaksime otsustada enamusi asju ise, kui oskaksime ja julgeksime ja eelkõige ARUSAAKSIME miks vaja on... aga no.. kas saame, veel enne, kui selle teamdisega midagi peale hakata on, et kuhu see viib...
Unustame nagu, et roooma impeerium alles mõnisada aastattagasi oma nime muutis ja peitu puges, et varivalitsuse ja DeemonKraatia kaudu edasi lambaid effektiivsemalt juhatada.. ja eks me kõik tea, mis moralid kreeka-rooma kultuuris olid ja mida asju nemad ametlikult kummardasid ja kummardavad siiani.
Eks siiani, palju veel nende kahepealist kotkast kummardavad jms ..
Ega riigi vappe suured valitseja riigid endale siis ei pane naljapärast.. teistele kleebivad neid kylge jah sellepärast, et yelda, "need on meie" aga nad ise.. teavad kes nad on ja mis nende plaan on.. kahjuks me aga kuutame ette, et mis vana, et seda enam polegi... ja veel kujutatakse ette, et nagu ainult inimesed siin asju juhatavad algusest lõpuni igas vallas
Kuid meie likvideerimiseks kasutatakse Eestlaseid ise, nõrgendades mehe ja naise vahelist armastust ja kiindumist, nõrgestades maiseid ja talulikke arusaame ja nõrgestades arusaame, et me oma kodus, võime oma esiisade kombel, ja suunas, alati positsioooni kelle iganes välise ideoloogia suunas võtta, naiste , metsade ja kodu kaitseks, terve mõistuse kaitseks ja vaimu arendamiseks.,
Kuna see osa, on suht nõrgaks läinud, ja need sunniviisilised Eestlaste likvideerimisplaanid, kus esimese öö õigus välis vallutajatel siin kunagi olid ja muud segunemised.. et need meist vorpinud pool tavapärase valge-eurooplaste massi, mis enam ei eraldugi varsti, kui Finno-Ugri, üli erilise keele ja kultuuri varamuga iidne südamelt tark rahvas.. viad jookseb sama totakalt nagu part, ori, lips kaelas ühe posti juurestteise kuhu kästakse, kellaaja pealt.. .
Selliseid jah, nad ise endi jõu likvideerinud, taastamatult varsti ,kui veel viimased vanurid kaovad..
jääb alles ianult poliitiline Estonia, mis saab tegema ja olema nii nagu talle öeldakse, "vabariigist" asi kaugel.
Isegi ravimtaimi me oma riigis, ei julge ise sätestada mida oma rahvas on piisavalt tark kasutama õppida ja mida mitte, igas asjas ... isegi puukuure ei lubata ehitada projektita ja tavalist põllumajanduslikku kanepit pead ka PRANTSLASTE jms loa alusel ostma, steriliseeritud seemneid, ühe aasta kaupa, .. iga aasta peab uued seemned ostma, sest nii võõõras maa ütles meile, et teie eestlased, iseei tohi aretada seemet ega seda mulda panna, meie ütleme millal ja kui palju ja mida panete... ja me siin noogutame... ja need irvitasid, ja mõtlesid
"läkski läbi, on ikka lambad lupardid... see näitab mis tase ja arusaam neil on.. nüüd saab julgelt kanna kurku suruda, kui nad nii elemntaarsete asjade osas juba koogutavad..."
siin ei loe mingid kommunistliku, ateistliku liberaalse EU pool vallutajate kokkupandud viisnurga, pentagrammi seatud reeglid, meie saaksime otsustada enamusi asju ise, kui oskaksime ja julgeksime ja eelkõige ARUSAAKSIME miks vaja on... aga no.. kas saame, veel enne, kui selle teamdisega midagi peale hakata on, et kuhu see viib...
Unustame nagu, et roooma impeerium alles mõnisada aastattagasi oma nime muutis ja peitu puges, et varivalitsuse ja DeemonKraatia kaudu edasi lambaid effektiivsemalt juhatada.. ja eks me kõik tea, mis moralid kreeka-rooma kultuuris olid ja mida asju nemad ametlikult kummardasid ja kummardavad siiani.
Eks siiani, palju veel nende kahepealist kotkast kummardavad jms ..
Ega riigi vappe suured valitseja riigid endale siis ei pane naljapärast.. teistele kleebivad neid kylge jah sellepärast, et yelda, "need on meie" aga nad ise.. teavad kes nad on ja mis nende plaan on.. kahjuks me aga kuutame ette, et mis vana, et seda enam polegi... ja veel kujutatakse ette, et nagu ainult inimesed siin asju juhatavad algusest lõpuni igas vallas
18 August 2016 19:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mis see siia puutub?
Point on, et kui valu on valitud, ja propakandana kasutatud, siis ei ole nad seda teinud kaastunde ja arusaama suhtes, inimlike kannatuste osas, vaid need on numbrid, erinevate projektide jaoks.
Point on selles, kui nad 18 000 inimese pärast päriselt mures oleks, NATURAALSES olukorras, sõja olukorras, kus on elementaarne, et inimesed on vangis ja surevad, alati nii olnud, ...siis kui palju rohkem peaksid nad muretsema, eriti väärt rahavaste pärast, kelle osas ME TEAME, 100% kahtluseta, et nende kultuuri pärand on AINULAADNE ja väga suurte väärtustega, et nad pole sõda meie vastu teinud ega pole see ka sõja keskuseks, koldeks olnud viimased tuhandeid aastaid nagu Syyria ümbrus
See oleks, nagu keegi üle maailma, motiveerib inimesi rääkima sellest, kuidas ühes külas kulupõletatakse, sadade miljardite eest sinna resursse pannes, iga nurga pealt jahudes, et kes ja kuidas... aga samal ajal, ise müüsid tikke, et hoopis suurem väärt iidse taastumatu metsa tulekahju tarbeks, ning aitasid tekitada olukorra, ja kokkuleppe, et sellest kellegile ei räägi... (ja muidugi veel aitasid ka külapõlengu tikkumüügile kaasa muuseas, nagu teame, on Alqueda ametlik partner, Euroopal ja USAl, Syyria valitsuse vastu.. ka seda unustatakse mainida... ja et Moslem Brotherhood, on veel Euroopa partner, Syyria vastu.. ka seda unustatakse mianida, et NEID gruppe aidatakse, Iraani ja Syyria valitsuse vastu, ...samal ajal kasutavad need samad uudised, neid org nimesi muudes uudistes, eelmistes aastates, nagu keegi kelle osas me muretsema peaksime... mis me neid siis rahastame ja nendega koos SYYRIA vastu võitleme, ehk siis LEGAALSE valitsuse vastu, nagu Egiptuses see oli kes maha võeti... ei tundunud eriti aus diil olevat, et midagi paremat ja head sinna asemele plaaniti... oli vaja likvideerida lihtsalt alternatiiv majanduslik ja usuline jõud... ja siis kui nad Ausalt oma usuvastastest tagamaadest rääkima hakkaks.. ja oma valikulistest "hoolimistest" siis läheks ka nende uudised rohkem südamesse, ... inimesed jah lähevad.. kuid neid ei saa võtta ka lõpuni, sest pole kindel, kellest rääägitakse ja mis põhjusel. Äkki olid 18 000 dest üle poolte kaabakad, pätid, vallutajad või tulnuka hybriidid, või keegi kes ei pidanud sellel maal olema? Vot.. mine tea.. mitukümmend erigruppi selle sosalised, mille põhi pead on EU, USA, Vene, Syyria, Iraan ja moned väliselt moslemi ideoloogiaga seotud liberaalsed ja radikaalsed pool terroristlikud grupid, kes on nõus jumal teab mida tegema poliitilise jõu ja raha koosmõjul. Eriti kui nad KOOS Iraani ja Syyria, moslemi ja usulise valitsuste vastu võitlevad, Ateistidega, Eurooplastega, keda nad oma privaat jutlusates kiidavad olema need, kelle naised nad läbi tõmbavad ja ülejäänud mehed tulevikus likvideerivad, seksuaalselt üle võttes ja kui vaja ,siis ülejäänud maha lüües... sest meil ei pidavat väärtusi olema ja tugevam jääb ellu... aga jah... et siis Peruulased, kes on muidugi üks väheseid, iidseid rahvaid kelle likvideerimise plaan avalikuks tulnud on...)
Point on, et kui valu on valitud, ja propakandana kasutatud, siis ei ole nad seda teinud kaastunde ja arusaama suhtes, inimlike kannatuste osas, vaid need on numbrid, erinevate projektide jaoks.
Point on selles, kui nad 18 000 inimese pärast päriselt mures oleks, NATURAALSES olukorras, sõja olukorras, kus on elementaarne, et inimesed on vangis ja surevad, alati nii olnud, ...siis kui palju rohkem peaksid nad muretsema, eriti väärt rahavaste pärast, kelle osas ME TEAME, 100% kahtluseta, et nende kultuuri pärand on AINULAADNE ja väga suurte väärtustega, et nad pole sõda meie vastu teinud ega pole see ka sõja keskuseks, koldeks olnud viimased tuhandeid aastaid nagu Syyria ümbrus
See oleks, nagu keegi üle maailma, motiveerib inimesi rääkima sellest, kuidas ühes külas kulupõletatakse, sadade miljardite eest sinna resursse pannes, iga nurga pealt jahudes, et kes ja kuidas... aga samal ajal, ise müüsid tikke, et hoopis suurem väärt iidse taastumatu metsa tulekahju tarbeks, ning aitasid tekitada olukorra, ja kokkuleppe, et sellest kellegile ei räägi... (ja muidugi veel aitasid ka külapõlengu tikkumüügile kaasa muuseas, nagu teame, on Alqueda ametlik partner, Euroopal ja USAl, Syyria valitsuse vastu.. ka seda unustatakse mainida... ja et Moslem Brotherhood, on veel Euroopa partner, Syyria vastu.. ka seda unustatakse mianida, et NEID gruppe aidatakse, Iraani ja Syyria valitsuse vastu, ...samal ajal kasutavad need samad uudised, neid org nimesi muudes uudistes, eelmistes aastates, nagu keegi kelle osas me muretsema peaksime... mis me neid siis rahastame ja nendega koos SYYRIA vastu võitleme, ehk siis LEGAALSE valitsuse vastu, nagu Egiptuses see oli kes maha võeti... ei tundunud eriti aus diil olevat, et midagi paremat ja head sinna asemele plaaniti... oli vaja likvideerida lihtsalt alternatiiv majanduslik ja usuline jõud... ja siis kui nad Ausalt oma usuvastastest tagamaadest rääkima hakkaks.. ja oma valikulistest "hoolimistest" siis läheks ka nende uudised rohkem südamesse, ... inimesed jah lähevad.. kuid neid ei saa võtta ka lõpuni, sest pole kindel, kellest rääägitakse ja mis põhjusel. Äkki olid 18 000 dest üle poolte kaabakad, pätid, vallutajad või tulnuka hybriidid, või keegi kes ei pidanud sellel maal olema? Vot.. mine tea.. mitukümmend erigruppi selle sosalised, mille põhi pead on EU, USA, Vene, Syyria, Iraan ja moned väliselt moslemi ideoloogiaga seotud liberaalsed ja radikaalsed pool terroristlikud grupid, kes on nõus jumal teab mida tegema poliitilise jõu ja raha koosmõjul. Eriti kui nad KOOS Iraani ja Syyria, moslemi ja usulise valitsuste vastu võitlevad, Ateistidega, Eurooplastega, keda nad oma privaat jutlusates kiidavad olema need, kelle naised nad läbi tõmbavad ja ülejäänud mehed tulevikus likvideerivad, seksuaalselt üle võttes ja kui vaja ,siis ülejäänud maha lüües... sest meil ei pidavat väärtusi olema ja tugevam jääb ellu... aga jah... et siis Peruulased, kes on muidugi üks väheseid, iidseid rahvaid kelle likvideerimise plaan avalikuks tulnud on...)
18 August 2016 18:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mitte ainult numbrites, vaid olukorras, kus ühe osas, ei räägita MITTE midagi,ei vene ega lääne poolt, ja siis teises osas, räägitakse söögi alla ja peale, igasuguseid numbreid ja olukordasi, peade sassiajamiseks, ... kuid mitte probleemi lahendamiseks. Sest kui lahendada oleks tahtnud USA või vene, siis oleks nad selle Lühikese ajaga oma sõjaväe jõu juuures teinud, ilma suurema sõjata, Arvestades juba nende vanad jõudu...... aga neil ikka vaja venitada, et ehk saab selle kolmanda maailmasõjani, mida plaanitud on Moslemite ja lääne maailma vahel, juba üle saja aasta...
18 August 2016 18:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi on
18 August 2016 18:29
Margus Meigo commented on Martin A. Noorkõiv's post.
Üks on sõja tsoon ja teine rahu tsoon.. ja ku irahulike inimestega, rahu tsoonis, tehakse selline mass mõrv.. ja selle massmõrva korradaja laps see aasta veel presidendiks kandideeris... siis võiks sellest ju kasvõi ükski kanal rääkida, eks ?
Kui ausad oleksime, päris hoolivuses...
Kui ausad oleksime, päris hoolivuses...
18 August 2016 18:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui arvestada, et igal neist ka 3-4 last oleks võinud olla.. siis jah.. päris korralik summa...
Umbes sama, kui üle 1/4 jandiku kogu Eestlaste Eestlastikemast likvideeritakse, aastal 2000, rahuajal... koos ametlike Liberaalide toega, sildiall "nii on majandusele parem, sest nad olid vaesed ja ei soovinud lipsu kanda jms..."
Umbes sama, kui üle 1/4 jandiku kogu Eestlaste Eestlastikemast likvideeritakse, aastal 2000, rahuajal... koos ametlike Liberaalide toega, sildiall "nii on majandusele parem, sest nad olid vaesed ja ei soovinud lipsu kanda jms..."
18 August 2016 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on Martin A. Noorkõiv's post.
250 000 kuni 450 000 sundsteriliseeriti, iidseid Peruulasi (mis viimase steriliseerimis laine ajal, oli üle 50% suguvõimelistest naistest selles keelkonnas kus tehti...)
Kuid sellest ei koti keegi, kuigi tegu maailma iidsemate ja looduslikumate rahvastega kelle kaitseall on ühed maailma väärtuslikumad metsad ja loodus, taimetarkused.
Kuid sellest ei koti keegi, kuigi tegu maailma iidsemate ja looduslikumate rahvastega kelle kaitseall on ühed maailma väärtuslikumad metsad ja loodus, taimetarkused.
18 August 2016 18:25
Margus Meigo commented on Ly Nguyen's post.
Group: ENTP
So is that real?18 August 2016 00:36
Margus Meigo replied to Жељко Павловић's comment.
Group: Men and Women Against Feminism
what part do you want to repent..or reject and why... and Picture still looks not friendly fo rjews, so your information looks like cheap propacanda.
but the point is correct in large topic18 August 2016 00:35
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Müstiku Päevik
nii on...aga on veel ikka siin siis miskid.. mis meid hoiab veidruses18 August 2016 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on Laura Vallemaa's post.
at least some good news, about sticks
18 August 2016 00:24
Margus Meigo replied to Raita Nagappa's comment.
Anthony Schwarting by spamming?
Do You have standards, where to post Your ....
have standards please..
Do You have standards, where to post Your ....
have standards please..
17 August 2016 22:05
Margus Meigo commented on Bill Gates's link.
It is not really a "Feminist" the Word we should focus on but Matriarchy
(unless the Word meaning and history, will chanage a bit, including statements and positions that many women täke in pain, forgetting, Who they Really are and supposed to be, on man eyes... and that man who does not want to see that, is always at fault, so have Spirit! )
(unless the Word meaning and history, will chanage a bit, including statements and positions that many women täke in pain, forgetting, Who they Really are and supposed to be, on man eyes... and that man who does not want to see that, is always at fault, so have Spirit! )
17 August 2016 22:00
Margus Meigo replied to Glenda Collins's comment.
Merlin?
As Bill told : ))
As Bill told : ))
17 August 2016 21:57
Margus Meigo commented on Bill Gates's photo.
I think, he littlebit Really is also, as one of the kind : )
...but then again, if You are king, and He is Merrlin, then what should we lookout for, from history ? :p
...but then again, if You are king, and He is Merrlin, then what should we lookout for, from history ? :p
17 August 2016 21:56
Margus Meigo commented on Bill Gates's photo.
Truly great womenly women!
Best for Youre family Bill!
Best for Youre family Bill!
17 August 2016 21:54
Margus Meigo commented on Laura Vallemaa's post.
Just lissened good song from Her some days ago, found from my harddrive, and was supriced, that She really is nice girl
17 August 2016 21:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Your the first html tutorial i've seen that actually included the meaning of "HTML",
Startin' Out:
Understanding HTML
HTML [HyperText Markup Language] is the language of the web that shows the browser the layout of a website, and where everything goes. It is the "skeleton" of a full web application, and is essential to learn about web design.
The HTML Acronym Broken Down:
- HyperText: It is hyper [computer] and it is in text format
- Markup: The use of tags, for example <html> or <style>, in the language itself
- Language: It's a language
A Basic HTML Document:
A basic HTML document is composed of four things: the Doctype (explained later), the <html> declaration, the <head> section, and the <body> section.
HTML Code:
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
</head>
<body>
</body>
</html>
Basic HTML Document -- Broken Down:
- DOCTYPE: This tells the browser what kind of HTML syntax you are using. Those who are coding in HTML 4.01 Strict syntax format would use that doctype, while those who use XHTML 1.0 Transitional would use that doctype. There are currently 6 "recommended" Doctypes out there, thanks to the W3C and their ending of the famed Browser Wars [don't know it, look it up, it's too hard to explain here.] I'll explain these later
- <html> declaration: Telling the browser that this is an HTML document and it's ready to play! This is a mandatory tag, and is always placed at the very top of the doc, just below the DOCTYPE
- <head> declaration: This explains to the browser about the HTML document. For example, you will put the title of the webpage, any CSS styles or scripts, and metadata information in here. It is also a mandatory tag, and must be placed directly below the <html> declaration
- <body> declaration: The actual living contents of the webpage. This is what is displayed in the browser window
Now that that's over with...what are the rules of markup?
There are two general sets of rules for markup in the case of HTML. There are HTML syntax rules [more specifically 4.01] and there are XHTML syntax rules [XHTML explained later on.] One of the bigger things that set HTML and XHTML apart are their syntax rules, as XHTML has adopted the XML [don't worry about this language for now] syntax rules which have proven to be cleaner and easier to debug. In this tutorial you will see me using XHTML.
HTML rules are as follows:
-- Elements [tags] must have the "<" and ">" at the beginning and end of the tag
-- Elements don't have to have an end (i.e. *<p>text* is okay, rather than *<p>text</p>)
-- Empty elements (such as br or img) do not need to self-close themselves, like in XHTML [explained in the XHTML syntax rules]
-- Attributes [extra details about an element] don't need to have quotes, but they can [for example, *<img width=50* is okay, rather than *<img width="50"*)
-- Must have the 3 standard tags (excluding the doctype)
XHTML Rules Are As Follows:
-- Non-Empty Elements must have a closing tag (*<p>text</p>* only)
-- Attributes are required to be in quotations
-- Empty Elements need to self-close (*<img />*, not *<img>*)
-- Must have ALL 4 standard tags (with a XHTML doctype only)
In the next chapter, I'll explain the <!DOCTYPE> and some basic <head> information. Thanks for reading!
Startin' Out:
Understanding HTML
HTML [HyperText Markup Language] is the language of the web that shows the browser the layout of a website, and where everything goes. It is the "skeleton" of a full web application, and is essential to learn about web design.
The HTML Acronym Broken Down:
- HyperText: It is hyper [computer] and it is in text format
- Markup: The use of tags, for example <html> or <style>, in the language itself
- Language: It's a language
A Basic HTML Document:
A basic HTML document is composed of four things: the Doctype (explained later), the <html> declaration, the <head> section, and the <body> section.
HTML Code:
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
</head>
<body>
</body>
</html>
Basic HTML Document -- Broken Down:
- DOCTYPE: This tells the browser what kind of HTML syntax you are using. Those who are coding in HTML 4.01 Strict syntax format would use that doctype, while those who use XHTML 1.0 Transitional would use that doctype. There are currently 6 "recommended" Doctypes out there, thanks to the W3C and their ending of the famed Browser Wars [don't know it, look it up, it's too hard to explain here.] I'll explain these later
- <html> declaration: Telling the browser that this is an HTML document and it's ready to play! This is a mandatory tag, and is always placed at the very top of the doc, just below the DOCTYPE
- <head> declaration: This explains to the browser about the HTML document. For example, you will put the title of the webpage, any CSS styles or scripts, and metadata information in here. It is also a mandatory tag, and must be placed directly below the <html> declaration
- <body> declaration: The actual living contents of the webpage. This is what is displayed in the browser window
Now that that's over with...what are the rules of markup?
There are two general sets of rules for markup in the case of HTML. There are HTML syntax rules [more specifically 4.01] and there are XHTML syntax rules [XHTML explained later on.] One of the bigger things that set HTML and XHTML apart are their syntax rules, as XHTML has adopted the XML [don't worry about this language for now] syntax rules which have proven to be cleaner and easier to debug. In this tutorial you will see me using XHTML.
HTML rules are as follows:
-- Elements [tags] must have the "<" and ">" at the beginning and end of the tag
-- Elements don't have to have an end (i.e. *<p>text* is okay, rather than *<p>text</p>)
-- Empty elements (such as br or img) do not need to self-close themselves, like in XHTML [explained in the XHTML syntax rules]
-- Attributes [extra details about an element] don't need to have quotes, but they can [for example, *<img width=50* is okay, rather than *<img width="50"*)
-- Must have the 3 standard tags (excluding the doctype)
XHTML Rules Are As Follows:
-- Non-Empty Elements must have a closing tag (*<p>text</p>* only)
-- Attributes are required to be in quotations
-- Empty Elements need to self-close (*<img />*, not *<img>*)
-- Must have ALL 4 standard tags (with a XHTML doctype only)
In the next chapter, I'll explain the <!DOCTYPE> and some basic <head> information. Thanks for reading!
17 August 2016 13:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Viisakasmees, ikka enne küsib,
16 August 2016 02:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi ta ise ka suts ehmatanud tundub
16 August 2016 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eks sellel naisel esimeses lingis, veel ühte teist, tema notedes, kellel huvi tervise asja piilud,a vb on midagi: https://www.facebook.com/sue.b.thorpe/notes
16 August 2016 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Talised teemad umbes: https://www.kliinik.ee/perearst/id-26/noustamine?question=18081
https://www.kliinik.ee/perearst/id-26/noustamine?question=18081
16 August 2016 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: The Anunnaki Earth Council
also about these who use humans for food and energy resources.16 August 2016 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: The Anunnaki Earth Council
Take magic mushrooms, acids etc, cannabis, and You will soon get a understandings, of many kind from them16 August 2016 01:43
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: The Anunnaki Earth Council
talking like there is one species and like we would not be in contact with them, all the time,16 August 2016 01:42
Margus Meigo commented on Mai-Liis Lehtmets's photo.
Jah... nende juures kui nad lastega on ei soovitatud olla meil aafrikas paadig,a pidid paadi poooleks hammustama
16 August 2016 00:43
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Õunapuudega jah.. on sedasi, et noorem põlv praegu ei istuta ega poogi pooltki samapalju puid kui standard vanal ajal oli vähema rahvaga.. see väga väga kurb.. sest see aitab meie rahvast likvideerida, kui me väärikaid õunapuid kasvama ei saa uuesti maale, see tõsilugu
15 August 2016 23:04
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Kuidas Sulle endale see idee ja lahendus meeldib?
15 August 2016 23:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
rooma gey-sririigi ametlik vorm lõppes alles paarsada aastat tagasi, et läbi prantsuse sõjatriki uut varjuvalitsust luua kus need jõud läbi demokraatia ja globaalse majanduse edaspidi asju ametlikult liigutama hakkavad ja tavameedia inimeste silmist kaovad kui ametlikud valitsejad...
kuid sümbolid, teod, mõtted ja kõned on neil ikka samad..
Luues kaks poolt, andes ainult valiku selle vahel valida.. .. ideaalne plaan
kuid sümbolid, teod, mõtted ja kõned on neil ikka samad..
Luues kaks poolt, andes ainult valiku selle vahel valida.. .. ideaalne plaan
15 August 2016 23:00
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Nad võiks alati Kommunismi otsa kleepida ka sõna Rooma Impeerium, siis teaksime kellega tegu... Muidu mingi kommunisid, mõeldakse, et uued asjad ,et hea et need nüüd läinud on...
15 August 2016 22:58
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Killo's photo.
oi suka!
15 August 2016 22:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kooskõlas sellega siis:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207644334323145&set=picfp.1135161043.10207643738268244&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207644334323145&set=picfp.1135161043.10207643738268244&type=3&theater
15 August 2016 14:37
Margus Meigo replied to Mati Olen Oja's comment.
Group: Olen vaimsete huvidega ja hetkel üksi
(... kuid andestamatul on ka mitu astet, sellepärast enamus mehi ongi elus..)15 August 2016 05:33
Margus Meigo replied to Mati Olen Oja's comment.
Group: Olen vaimsete huvidega ja hetkel üksi
ja siis nad on koos MAAILMA jaoks, Jumala jaoks kõigepealt
ja siis tulevad kõik muud eraärid ja hobid pikalt järle, kui Su hobi ja äri just maailmaparandus ja suhted ole... siis hoia neid ligi, kuid ikkagi.. pole olemas jobusi olukorras kus kaks poolt on aru saanud,et nad on koos, ja selleks, et olla koos ja saada kokku, ja jääda ja et see on ülim ja andestamatu15 August 2016 05:32
Margus Meigo replied to Mati Olen Oja's comment.
Group: Olen vaimsete huvidega ja hetkel üksi
mis iganes moodi on.oluline, et pooled aru saaks, et nad on KOOS ja siis maailm,15 August 2016 05:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Olen vaimsete huvidega ja hetkel üksi
N?15 August 2016 05:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kui see mi solema oleks pidanud jääma, ehk meie.
Meil kõigil vaja, Meid
Meil kõigil vaja, Meid
15 August 2016 05:28
Margus Meigo replied to Viktor Ilmajaam Vinogradov's comment.
Viktor Ilmajaam Vinogradov am pikkade juhtmetega ( with "long cables") so for me moments last for a long time...
15 August 2016 02:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(ses suhtes, et mida muidu netis teed..)
15 August 2016 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
õnnneks eestis on juba kesköö ja ei ole pühapäev, kus omaga olemise aeg
15 August 2016 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Leiab ka omapärase kliki alt eri asju, kuid mingi lisa otsimise koht ikkagi
15 August 2016 00:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"S-On – If you are S-On then you must pay particular attention to the RUU you choose to install. If you have obtained SuperCID then you need to gain S-Off in order to run a RUU. You WILL brick your phone. Remember this, S-On + SuperCID + 3.18 RUU = Brick. Make sure your CID is not 11111111, 22222222, or any other variant of SuperCID. If so, it’s time to S-Off. I recommend the following links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2593037
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2593037
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2593037
13 August 2016 18:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
to get what they need
13 August 2016 17:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Why people have to do things like that:
"I have WP 7.8 on HTC HD7....but only thanks to "cable unplugg trick" :-)
-
ZNP Zdeněk Dubnický (• 4 years ago) "What is the Cable Unplug Trick? "
"where you connect your phone to the computer, go to zune--->settings-->Find update-->when it loads, around 4 seconds, switch off internet access on your pc, and the update will pop-up. after you got to the update screen, turn on your internet access and make sure it is connected to the internet and there you go. (experiences on tango)
http://www.redmondtimes.com/2013/02/01/how-to-force-update-your-htc-radar-to-windows-phone-78.aspx
"I have WP 7.8 on HTC HD7....but only thanks to "cable unplugg trick" :-)
-
ZNP Zdeněk Dubnický (• 4 years ago) "What is the Cable Unplug Trick? "
"where you connect your phone to the computer, go to zune--->settings-->Find update-->when it loads, around 4 seconds, switch off internet access on your pc, and the update will pop-up. after you got to the update screen, turn on your internet access and make sure it is connected to the internet and there you go. (experiences on tango)
http://www.redmondtimes.com/2013/02/01/how-to-force-update-your-htc-radar-to-windows-phone-78.aspx
http://www.redmondtimes.com/2013/02/01/how-to-force-update-your-htc-radar-to-windows-phone-78.aspx
13 August 2016 17:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.windowscentral.com/tag/dft
http://www.windowscentral.com/tag/dft
13 August 2016 17:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Also sad for teams like that, as phones they save will be still useless soon
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/the_complete_guide_to_jailbreaking_windows_phone_7_and_7.5-09-24-11
http://www.windowscentral.com/tag/dft
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684910
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/dft_releases_rspl_and_hspl_for_htc_windows_phone_7_devices-07-31-11
older consideration
http://www.wpcentral.com/tool-make-installing-windows-phone-78-update-easier
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37403592&postcount=1
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/the_complete_guide_to_jailbreaking_windows_phone_7_and_7.5-09-24-11
http://www.windowscentral.com/tag/dft
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684910
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/dft_releases_rspl_and_hspl_for_htc_windows_phone_7_devices-07-31-11
older consideration
http://www.wpcentral.com/tool-make-installing-windows-phone-78-update-easier
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37403592&postcount=1
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/the_complete_guide_to_jailbreaking_windows_phone_7_and_7.5-09-24-11
13 August 2016 17:52
Margus Meigo replied to Viktor Ilmajaam Vinogradov's comment.
yes, i saw the bone structure details now..
13 August 2016 17:41
Margus Meigo replied to Viktor Ilmajaam Vinogradov's comment.
what did you associate and the story in your and culture mind about this image
13 August 2016 17:40
Margus Meigo replied to Viktor Ilmajaam Vinogradov's comment.
i see, but tell me about it
13 August 2016 17:39
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Müstiku Päevik
Naiste rindade,puhta keha lõhn loodetavasti jääb ikka elulõpuni meeli elushoidma13 August 2016 17:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
teenisin 10 eeku :p
13 August 2016 03:08
Margus Meigo replied to Viktor Ilmajaam Vinogradov's comment.
So tell me how is that picture relevant?
13 August 2016 02:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ok, müüdud juba (foorum)
13 August 2016 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nii saab reageerida, ainuüksi mõne lõigupeale, kuid eks selles loos ole veel palju teisi vaatevinkleid, maailma väike poolikuid hirme ja mõtteid... suurem osa inimesi ,vahest tundub, et kes kõige enam enamuses lärmi teevad, reageerivad MÕTTE peale... mitte kogu elu kogumi, järelemõeldud arusaamadae ja testitud ja lahendamiskord olemas olukorras.. vaid lihtsalt, et mingi otseselt mitte maailma piirjooni seletavate mõtete koosmõjul, on mõtte loos esinenud fantaasia sümbolite, sündmuste tõlgendus, oma jumalike puudujääkide puudulikult, või siis selle valguses
13 August 2016 02:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu jeerum jeerum, see ju advokaadile endale ka häbi, miks lastakse sedasi teha... kuid eks ... noh, seda saa palju olema...
Oot, Jõnks ikka maksis siis 2500 või see oli niisama, tasuta vestlus ? See oleks täitsa normaale kui ta peaks, ja tal on võimalus vabalt maksta ka. Terve päeva eest. Vb siin peaks ta enda alla tööle võtma, see.. see oleks kahtlane kuid hoiaks ... aah ei, see ikka pole vast hea mõte
Oot, Jõnks ikka maksis siis 2500 või see oli niisama, tasuta vestlus ? See oleks täitsa normaale kui ta peaks, ja tal on võimalus vabalt maksta ka. Terve päeva eest. Vb siin peaks ta enda alla tööle võtma, see.. see oleks kahtlane kuid hoiaks ... aah ei, see ikka pole vast hea mõte
13 August 2016 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Miks me peame sellist Nalja üldse tegema, et sellised nii kaliibri suuruse vahega inimesed vastamisi paneme, nagu päris vestlus toimuks.
Nu tsekka seda osa, "
"...Oma rahvale tuleb öelda, et turvatunne on tagatud ja kui selle turvatundega pole midagi muud peale hakata, kui hakata planku ehitama, mis on väga halb, siis ma olen valmis ütlema, et nüüd ehitame siis selle tara, kui meil ei ole muud varianti. Aga peab olema muu variant ja need variandid on ka olemas. Ränne ei tohi ohustada kogukondi," rõhutas Kallas.
Jõks leidis, et pagulaste hordide taga peame nägema lennukeid ehk meie liitlasi. "Liitlastel on probleemid, mille juures me ka saame aidata pagulasi vastu võttes. Ühelt poolt. Teiselt poolt vabariigi president on põhiseaduse valvur ja iga küsimust, välis- ja julgeolekuküsimust on võimalik viia põhiseaduseni, põhiseaduse aluspõhimõteteni. Põhiseaduse kaitse klausel, mille ma 2003. aastal aitasin põhiseadusse sisse viia, mille kohaselt üks riigi aluspõhimõte on rahvusriik. Ehk ka pagulaste küsimuses tuleb valitsusel vastu võtta otsused, mis on kooskõlas rahvusriigi põhimõtetega. Täiesti õige oli valitsuse seisukoht, et ei automaatsetele kvootidele, ja see mis praegu toimib, et on julgeolekukontroll, kaalutakse, vaadatakse läbi, kas inimeste taust on korralik, see on õige lähenemine ja kooskõlas ka põhiseaduse aluspõhimõtetega." "
Really? Ma ei hakanud seda isegi lõpuni lugema sest kõlas nagu, oot, mida sa ajad ?
Nu tsekka seda osa, "
"...Oma rahvale tuleb öelda, et turvatunne on tagatud ja kui selle turvatundega pole midagi muud peale hakata, kui hakata planku ehitama, mis on väga halb, siis ma olen valmis ütlema, et nüüd ehitame siis selle tara, kui meil ei ole muud varianti. Aga peab olema muu variant ja need variandid on ka olemas. Ränne ei tohi ohustada kogukondi," rõhutas Kallas.
Jõks leidis, et pagulaste hordide taga peame nägema lennukeid ehk meie liitlasi. "Liitlastel on probleemid, mille juures me ka saame aidata pagulasi vastu võttes. Ühelt poolt. Teiselt poolt vabariigi president on põhiseaduse valvur ja iga küsimust, välis- ja julgeolekuküsimust on võimalik viia põhiseaduseni, põhiseaduse aluspõhimõteteni. Põhiseaduse kaitse klausel, mille ma 2003. aastal aitasin põhiseadusse sisse viia, mille kohaselt üks riigi aluspõhimõte on rahvusriik. Ehk ka pagulaste küsimuses tuleb valitsusel vastu võtta otsused, mis on kooskõlas rahvusriigi põhimõtetega. Täiesti õige oli valitsuse seisukoht, et ei automaatsetele kvootidele, ja see mis praegu toimib, et on julgeolekukontroll, kaalutakse, vaadatakse läbi, kas inimeste taust on korralik, see on õige lähenemine ja kooskõlas ka põhiseaduse aluspõhimõtetega." "
Really? Ma ei hakanud seda isegi lõpuni lugema sest kõlas nagu, oot, mida sa ajad ?
13 August 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
jeerum :D
12 August 2016 03:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(ja palun ärge hakake keegi vahele segama oma lausete juraga kuidas saab ja peaks olema laused te arvates, aga tee keele pärast rohkem mures kui sellepärast, et kas siis on nii või naa ja mida siis teeme, , jätame kirjatükid nüüd sinnapaika,, ja mida siis tahestahtmata mõni arvab, et peaks olema nii, et sonadel peab olema lubatud kogus, suund, reaalsust peegeldav tõend kinnitamaks suunda milleks keelt enda arvates sedasi oigesti kasutad..).. kuid asi polnud keeles, vaid asjas, kas Sa Elu oigesti kasutasid
12 August 2016 03:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mõeldud halastavalt õigustust paluval palaval toonil, ühiskonda väljavabandavalt, suurelt, kinnitades asja tõsidust kes vaimsed on saavad aru olukorras
12 August 2016 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
foto algne nimi oli "..ja kuidas siis elad selliste vaimude (ga su sees)
12 August 2016 03:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
muidugi tagasi ka sama mõnusalt vajudes kaalutuse laines, et uue lainena veelgi rohkem meeltega üle võtta ja liikuda KOGU kehas, ilma füüsilise pingutuseta muud kui vaid kindel ligiolek
12 August 2016 01:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.. "premium" meant, as Guy in beard referencing it self kind,
no not me, the other bearded one with beasts in seamonster domain
no not me, the other bearded one with beasts in seamonster domain
12 August 2016 01:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
" Try premium for free" and Yong ones are like: Oh.. that might be great..
And Old one will say "Sure, it will be..."
But You looked up last time, ... "will you come after me when am mistaking?"
and i say "if you only know.." .... then You would look front of you and run, if thats less then passionetely lovable
And Old one will say "Sure, it will be..."
But You looked up last time, ... "will you come after me when am mistaking?"
and i say "if you only know.." .... then You would look front of you and run, if thats less then passionetely lovable
12 August 2016 01:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
When you add caption and just see it surely sharing upload in some place, but to know that place... would be great.. window live shared web, where is that?
My live wall an profile, what we turn in to massive epic live portal wall... somewhere, maybe
My live wall an profile, what we turn in to massive epic live portal wall... somewhere, maybe
12 August 2016 00:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
12 August 2016 00:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
other comment :
"You see, during such kind of collective practices, strong collective fields are generated. And if your body and energy system are not pure and strong enough, you have just the bad experience as you described. In good case (when you meditate with experience practitioners) the collective field may literally burn you, but this is good, because it burns the dirtiness in your mind and body.
There is also a probability that you were incompatible with specific collective field which was created by other participants. In this case I would propose you to sit in the last row, so you were not covered by the cloud of collective energy."
// but you see.. we still not able to explain, the truth, about beings and projects that can happen same time, in half fake settings, sometimes real organizations them self even not know for what the field will be used extra, by others
so many feedback i have got from people who see spiritual things, and say, many famous gurus, and teachers, even in Estonia have been in front of mental screen and they saw something complicity other thing then this what really happened and was done with people
even the maie aiataga või mis ta oli , taolistelt üritustelt, sellist tagasisdet tulnud, energeetika laagritest mis kaudselt venemaapoolt juhitud, ei hakka üldserääkimagi, õnn kes ise osab endasse jääda ja tuumasõjasse mitte uskuma jääda nende asjade lõpuks, ning jääda uskuma loodusesse, lootusesse, naise ja jumalasse
"You see, during such kind of collective practices, strong collective fields are generated. And if your body and energy system are not pure and strong enough, you have just the bad experience as you described. In good case (when you meditate with experience practitioners) the collective field may literally burn you, but this is good, because it burns the dirtiness in your mind and body.
There is also a probability that you were incompatible with specific collective field which was created by other participants. In this case I would propose you to sit in the last row, so you were not covered by the cloud of collective energy."
// but you see.. we still not able to explain, the truth, about beings and projects that can happen same time, in half fake settings, sometimes real organizations them self even not know for what the field will be used extra, by others
so many feedback i have got from people who see spiritual things, and say, many famous gurus, and teachers, even in Estonia have been in front of mental screen and they saw something complicity other thing then this what really happened and was done with people
even the maie aiataga või mis ta oli , taolistelt üritustelt, sellist tagasisdet tulnud, energeetika laagritest mis kaudselt venemaapoolt juhitud, ei hakka üldserääkimagi, õnn kes ise osab endasse jääda ja tuumasõjasse mitte uskuma jääda nende asjade lõpuks, ning jääda uskuma loodusesse, lootusesse, naise ja jumalasse
10 August 2016 17:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just remeber, You need help also!
Or You become arrogant, missing the point of human needs, of cooperation and global care and trust
Or You become arrogant, missing the point of human needs, of cooperation and global care and trust
10 August 2016 17:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
helping other people, smart way, is The Way
10 August 2016 17:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
of-course, in the end you got yourself, all the protection and professions you nee d,if you keep connection to plants, psychedelics (trainers, teachers) and understanding the need to serve a ONLY god
10 August 2016 17:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so the next comment is:
"The retreat is neither irresponsible nor is it dangerous if you practice correctly. You might have had a different experience, but for me it was very fruitful.
If you think the technique is not good for you, practise freely any other technique that you find suitable. But please don't brazenly run down the technique in this manner.
And I do think that you need to practice a lot more calm-abiding meditation or Shamatha before you start vipassana.
--
"Here's my suggestion:
Now you are feeling really bad, and angry at this person and the technique,so use this oppurtunity to develop tolerance and compassion towards him and his technique. This way, you will be able to utilize this anger into constructive anger. And everytime the rotten memories of the course come to your mind, give the guy metta for he has given you a wonderful oppurtunity to generate compassion and tolerance. This way, you will be grateful you went on the 'dreaded' course "
// if something wanna steal your soul, you can not be to grateful always,
but grateful to god, if Maybe you still have soul after, or only mind...
so for that we need other spiritual professionals near by, to implement extra security and protection.. or it is just luck and hard work for Your guardian angels to stand for You when you open yourself up to any kind of beings ... even ONE negative person in curse, can be reason enough, for you not to open up, if he is the kind, you can approach and talk, then you can confirm, was issue in you or in them, and look in to them is they are real human, what they think about fruits, kids, nature, life... what is life mission.. is it real earth or some comic consent..
"The retreat is neither irresponsible nor is it dangerous if you practice correctly. You might have had a different experience, but for me it was very fruitful.
If you think the technique is not good for you, practise freely any other technique that you find suitable. But please don't brazenly run down the technique in this manner.
And I do think that you need to practice a lot more calm-abiding meditation or Shamatha before you start vipassana.
--
"Here's my suggestion:
Now you are feeling really bad, and angry at this person and the technique,so use this oppurtunity to develop tolerance and compassion towards him and his technique. This way, you will be able to utilize this anger into constructive anger. And everytime the rotten memories of the course come to your mind, give the guy metta for he has given you a wonderful oppurtunity to generate compassion and tolerance. This way, you will be grateful you went on the 'dreaded' course "
// if something wanna steal your soul, you can not be to grateful always,
but grateful to god, if Maybe you still have soul after, or only mind...
so for that we need other spiritual professionals near by, to implement extra security and protection.. or it is just luck and hard work for Your guardian angels to stand for You when you open yourself up to any kind of beings ... even ONE negative person in curse, can be reason enough, for you not to open up, if he is the kind, you can approach and talk, then you can confirm, was issue in you or in them, and look in to them is they are real human, what they think about fruits, kids, nature, life... what is life mission.. is it real earth or some comic consent..
10 August 2016 17:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
all the story that next comment guy recommends, is nice, but problem is they not take in to account, that maybe this COURSE WAS by other beings or Project, and harmful one, disguised as Vipass, what is easy to do.
HUGE % of these kind of things, are run by other aims then advertised, as people to clueless to recognize real thing and something that just trick them in to something, and this is not a faulty bad thing, if curses would in the beginning pressure of understanding, before practising,
as with (proper clean) shamanistic tools, so there would be no simple surprises like "oh i felt i die.. so i freaked out" yeah.. that's normal thing to live, to do.. we just have to know now.. was it real soul killing death, someone stealing your spirit, or was that a training or simple fear.. and why it is good or not..
HUGE % of these kind of things, are run by other aims then advertised, as people to clueless to recognize real thing and something that just trick them in to something, and this is not a faulty bad thing, if curses would in the beginning pressure of understanding, before practising,
as with (proper clean) shamanistic tools, so there would be no simple surprises like "oh i felt i die.. so i freaked out" yeah.. that's normal thing to live, to do.. we just have to know now.. was it real soul killing death, someone stealing your spirit, or was that a training or simple fear.. and why it is good or not..
10 August 2016 17:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And as people not prepering for spiritual protection, got no shamans guarding or Orthodox ones, then these things can happen easy, people not even realise they was hacked also, at times:
"This is such an irresponsable and dangerous retreat. I can't believe this CRAPOLA. This Goenka guy is an idiot.
I was ready to take on Vipassana to help me be more disciplined and peaceful. I previously read Mindfulness In Plain English and practiced some meditation here and there and always felt good afterwards.
I went to this retreat after viewing several videos in YouTube. Seeing how big this organization was and how the website always came first in Google I decided to give it a chance, even though I always had a bad vibe and feeling coming from this organization.
I lasted 7 days before finally running away. During those 7 days I never felt good, never, not even for a minute. I felt like I was buried alive and couldn't do anything. I cried many times. During the stupid body scan technique I had extremely disturbing images popping up in my head. I almost had a panic attack. I had strong anxiety. I felt that this retreat literally friked up my mind.
How can this be good? How can this be responsible? The mind is something very serious and should be treated gently.
Meditation is NOT supposed to be a "brain surgery" as Goenka says, nor it's supposed to be dangerous to leave in the middle of a retreat.
There is tremendous social pressure to finish the course no matter what. "It's part of the process" they say. Excuse me? How is feeling extremely bad, having a lot of anxiety and having very disturbing images popping in your head (even during the non-meditation times) part of mindfulness meditation?
This method can easily cause trauma and damage to people's minds. I am so mad at this guy and this RELIGIOUS SECT. It's a sect and it's not scientific whatsoever.
Please stay away from it even if you've read that people had good experiences. I for one am mentally healthy and had a terrible experience.
If you want to meditate, start gradually at your home, please. I do not recommend this kind of torture and I'm feeling very bad right now. Don't go even if you're going through a tough moment in life.
Some encouraging words would be greatly appreciated. I need your help please.
And don't even try to defend this Goenka organization because you don't know what I'm going through right now. "
http://www.vipassanaforum.net/forum/index.php?topic=672.0
"This is such an irresponsable and dangerous retreat. I can't believe this CRAPOLA. This Goenka guy is an idiot.
I was ready to take on Vipassana to help me be more disciplined and peaceful. I previously read Mindfulness In Plain English and practiced some meditation here and there and always felt good afterwards.
I went to this retreat after viewing several videos in YouTube. Seeing how big this organization was and how the website always came first in Google I decided to give it a chance, even though I always had a bad vibe and feeling coming from this organization.
I lasted 7 days before finally running away. During those 7 days I never felt good, never, not even for a minute. I felt like I was buried alive and couldn't do anything. I cried many times. During the stupid body scan technique I had extremely disturbing images popping up in my head. I almost had a panic attack. I had strong anxiety. I felt that this retreat literally friked up my mind.
How can this be good? How can this be responsible? The mind is something very serious and should be treated gently.
Meditation is NOT supposed to be a "brain surgery" as Goenka says, nor it's supposed to be dangerous to leave in the middle of a retreat.
There is tremendous social pressure to finish the course no matter what. "It's part of the process" they say. Excuse me? How is feeling extremely bad, having a lot of anxiety and having very disturbing images popping in your head (even during the non-meditation times) part of mindfulness meditation?
This method can easily cause trauma and damage to people's minds. I am so mad at this guy and this RELIGIOUS SECT. It's a sect and it's not scientific whatsoever.
Please stay away from it even if you've read that people had good experiences. I for one am mentally healthy and had a terrible experience.
If you want to meditate, start gradually at your home, please. I do not recommend this kind of torture and I'm feeling very bad right now. Don't go even if you're going through a tough moment in life.
Some encouraging words would be greatly appreciated. I need your help please.
And don't even try to defend this Goenka organization because you don't know what I'm going through right now. "
http://www.vipassanaforum.net/forum/index.php?topic=672.0
http://www.vipassanaforum.net/forum/index.php?topic=672.0
10 August 2016 17:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and comment 3:
"My mind started to spin so fast, endless number of thoughts, I was exhausted, my mind became my biggest enemy.
This state would last most of the day, but then at some point during the day suddenly I could find some beautiful peace in my mind, I could see how my mind was fooling me building those fears, building the anxiety and so on, everything was apparently so clear, I felt aware almost detached from my own mind...such a relief which will last just few minutes unfortunately leaving me extremely confused…
I talked to the master, and he said it was normal, I was basically removing some layers of impurity and digging down.
I waited few more days, I went back for a conversation, I was exhausted and I wanted to leave, the Master suggest me to stay.
I have asked if there was any chance to bring with me those feeling once out of the retreat, he said no.
I felt sad, I was missing the strong one who I was before the retreat
I stayed till the end, and even the last day I didn’t experience any relief.
Its November now, After two months I have lost my energy, my flame, my positive attitude, My anxiety is going away (after the retreat I couldn’t t sleep I had panic attack during the night and I had to run out ), I generally feel less motivated I do not meditate anymore and I miss the way I felt before
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/meditation-is-touted-as-a-cure-for-mental-instability-but-can-it-actually-be-bad-for-you-10268291.html
I would love to understand what’s going on and if there is anything I can do to get back the mind state I had before the retreat?
"My mind started to spin so fast, endless number of thoughts, I was exhausted, my mind became my biggest enemy.
This state would last most of the day, but then at some point during the day suddenly I could find some beautiful peace in my mind, I could see how my mind was fooling me building those fears, building the anxiety and so on, everything was apparently so clear, I felt aware almost detached from my own mind...such a relief which will last just few minutes unfortunately leaving me extremely confused…
I talked to the master, and he said it was normal, I was basically removing some layers of impurity and digging down.
I waited few more days, I went back for a conversation, I was exhausted and I wanted to leave, the Master suggest me to stay.
I have asked if there was any chance to bring with me those feeling once out of the retreat, he said no.
I felt sad, I was missing the strong one who I was before the retreat
I stayed till the end, and even the last day I didn’t experience any relief.
Its November now, After two months I have lost my energy, my flame, my positive attitude, My anxiety is going away (after the retreat I couldn’t t sleep I had panic attack during the night and I had to run out ), I generally feel less motivated I do not meditate anymore and I miss the way I felt before
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/meditation-is-touted-as-a-cure-for-mental-instability-but-can-it-actually-be-bad-for-you-10268291.html
I would love to understand what’s going on and if there is anything I can do to get back the mind state I had before the retreat?
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/meditation-is-touted-as-a-cure-for-mental-instability-but-can-it-actually-be-bad-for-you-10268291.html
10 August 2016 15:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Comment, reply to her: "hose impostet gurus who were not even able to go all the way, how are they able to show you the way except keeping everyone in darkness with mind boggling nonsensical hollow speeches with no base. We are the one to blame for not able to identify a true Guru. It's all based on faith and believe, if you believe in something wrong, it could drag you to hell, or something right could give you the experience of heaven. The ultimate goal of meditation should be liberation from the cycle of life and death, and to become one with God. Which is our ultimate destiny. Until we are able to reach at that point, we are just like bunch of wheats being grinded in a milling stone grinder, until all are turned into finely grinder flour without any impurities. Sorry for your lose. "
10 August 2016 15:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//at least it sounded real guru to be, keeping focus
10 August 2016 15:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Comment: Lisa Ross
"I personally witnessed a suicide directly related to meditation. As I sat in a Tibetan Buddhist meditation course in Kathmandu in 1997, a young man entered the room. He spoke briefly with the lama/guru, then promptly went up to the roof of the building and jumped off. I heard the horrible splat as he hit the ground and the commotion outside following the event. The guru merely continued with his instructional session as if nothing had happened.
Even that experience was not enough to bring me to my senses. I continued to practice meditation for many years afterward, neglecting my adult son who needed my help, staying in a mentally and financially devastating relationship, and letting my mind go farther astray into isolation, depression, and obsessive tendencies.
In 2012, my only son died from a gunshot wound, never conclusively determined to be suicide or homicide. The shock of his premature, violent death and the horrible grief and guilt that followed have begun to bring me to my senses.
From personal experience, I would strongly discourage anyone from becoming involved with gurus and meditation practices other than a few brief moments of quiet time alone after a long, frustrating work day. I agree that a short walk in a pleasant place (garden, park, beach, forest trail) is far better for mental health. I even find some computer games and a few educational movies more beneficial than mantras and sensory deprivation. Human brains as well as muscles require stimulation and exercise.
Since stopping meditation practice, I rarely wake myself up screaming but still have trouble sleeping. I initially turned to meditation as a means
of escape from a high-pressure job, a bad marriage that ended in divorce, and the rampant injustice, social inequality, and governmental interference in my native country.
The only benefit in my life from meditation was that I stopped smoking for ten years, most of which were spent in India and Nepal (where cigarettes are horrible). I would give anything to be able to undo the damage to my life and my son’s life that resulted from my following gurus and practicing
meditation. I had no prior history of drug or alcohol abuse or mental illness. Now, I am still struggling with the depression, lack of self-
confidence, and proclivity for isolation acquired during many years of meditation.
This article helped me understand what happened to my brain chemistry during those years. I now find facing reality through secular humanism and atheism to be far more beneficial."
"I personally witnessed a suicide directly related to meditation. As I sat in a Tibetan Buddhist meditation course in Kathmandu in 1997, a young man entered the room. He spoke briefly with the lama/guru, then promptly went up to the roof of the building and jumped off. I heard the horrible splat as he hit the ground and the commotion outside following the event. The guru merely continued with his instructional session as if nothing had happened.
Even that experience was not enough to bring me to my senses. I continued to practice meditation for many years afterward, neglecting my adult son who needed my help, staying in a mentally and financially devastating relationship, and letting my mind go farther astray into isolation, depression, and obsessive tendencies.
In 2012, my only son died from a gunshot wound, never conclusively determined to be suicide or homicide. The shock of his premature, violent death and the horrible grief and guilt that followed have begun to bring me to my senses.
From personal experience, I would strongly discourage anyone from becoming involved with gurus and meditation practices other than a few brief moments of quiet time alone after a long, frustrating work day. I agree that a short walk in a pleasant place (garden, park, beach, forest trail) is far better for mental health. I even find some computer games and a few educational movies more beneficial than mantras and sensory deprivation. Human brains as well as muscles require stimulation and exercise.
Since stopping meditation practice, I rarely wake myself up screaming but still have trouble sleeping. I initially turned to meditation as a means
of escape from a high-pressure job, a bad marriage that ended in divorce, and the rampant injustice, social inequality, and governmental interference in my native country.
The only benefit in my life from meditation was that I stopped smoking for ten years, most of which were spent in India and Nepal (where cigarettes are horrible). I would give anything to be able to undo the damage to my life and my son’s life that resulted from my following gurus and practicing
meditation. I had no prior history of drug or alcohol abuse or mental illness. Now, I am still struggling with the depression, lack of self-
confidence, and proclivity for isolation acquired during many years of meditation.
This article helped me understand what happened to my brain chemistry during those years. I now find facing reality through secular humanism and atheism to be far more beneficial."
10 August 2016 15:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Comment: "Vipassana meditation is not something to be entered lightly. It is work. It is not the panacea that will take one to a blissful state overnight, but it will be the first step in a long journey of understanding how the mind precedes everything. HH The Dalai Lama is always clear in stating that meditation will not cure mental and physical illnesses, and we need to know ourselves enough to understand when we need to get outside help. While this article provides a good angle that is rarely written about, it should not be taken as the sole perspective on meditation. Also, one can read everything under the sun but until it is experienced and examined directly, you may not have a clear picture of what you are judging."
10 August 2016 15:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
After my Indian odyssey and my return to worldly life in 1979, I’ve found being back in the world not such a bad thing after all. I no longer regard the world as a place from which to escape or detach myself. My mind is no longer something to conquer or to cleanse of impurities. In fact, my life is immeasurably richer without meditation, as wasthat of India’s great poet Rabindranath Tagore, exemplified in his poem “Against Meditative Knowledge”:
Those who wish to sit, shut their eyes,
and meditate to know if the world’s true or lies,
may do so. It’s their choice. But I meanwhile
with hungry eyes that can’t be satisfied
shall take a look at the world in broad daylight. (1896)
Those who wish to sit, shut their eyes,
and meditate to know if the world’s true or lies,
may do so. It’s their choice. But I meanwhile
with hungry eyes that can’t be satisfied
shall take a look at the world in broad daylight. (1896)
10 August 2016 15:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Riigikaitse (tsensuurita)
eriti osavad nad on juhtima rahavabasi komuune, keda ideoloogiaga kaugteel juhitaks,e hoida neid pundi uskumuste sees10 August 2016 15:03
Margus Meigo commented on Edmond Penu's post.
Group: Riigikaitse (tsensuurita)
"Lekitajad Saksamaalt tahavad Eesti paljastuste maaletoojate käest raha, mida meie mehed aga ei raatsi maksta...:"
Nagu mi spoolikud uudised, kes tahab kelle käest ja kui palju?
Mingi plähmerdise, vene propakanda stiilis, faktivaba jutu kallutis, mida ikka vaj apalju faktilisemat kirjutada, ajakirjaniku tööd ka teha, muidu on lihtsalt popakanda auk mida punased kasutavad meelte kallutamiseks, enda suures plaanis, nende jaoks need lehed väiksed nisad mida nad kasutavad, ja neil kirjas koik kes loevad ja seotud lhega, ja nende ymber hoitakse eri soprade ringis eri inimesi, kes teatud meelestatust ja jutte ohus hoiaks, koos uskumistega, millega kontrollida ja orki tommata, elementaarne
ega me lasteaiaga ei tegele, vaid ikkagi tipp luuretega, kgb eelaste ja rooma gey-sririigi järeltuliatega, siin moeldakse suurelt, mitu kohti ja vaimselt, et pohiline on nile hoida selle füüsilise reaalsuse surrepärast ainulaadsust pohiuskumises, et inimesed ainult uudiste najal solgutada saaks, et nad ise ei teaks, inimesed, kes mis struktuure ja vaimumaailme kuhusuunas miks juhatab, et nad kohe paari sona ja hääletooni kaupa ei oskaks aru saada kes mis uudise miks ja mis moodi esitab, kellele, kelle käsul ja kelle raha eest10 August 2016 15:02
Margus Meigo commented on Edmond Penu's post.
Group: Riigikaitse (tsensuurita)
Need strutuurid on segaduse ja meelestuste kontrolliks, kui päris struktuurid paigas oleks ,siis oleks juba suts hilja uudistest seda lugeda10 August 2016 14:58
Margus Meigo commented on Edmond Penu's post.
Group: Riigikaitse (tsensuurita)
alati antaksegi interviwsi labi kolmanda järgu ajalehtede, vana spionaasi ja kgb tehnoloogia10 August 2016 14:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
google vist kustutas picassa jms aleriid netis ära.. nüüd ei teagi kas kus on mujal kui arvutis..
10 August 2016 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ise selles käinud ka, päris tuuse reive seal muul ajal olnud, pilte isegi tehtud
Heleri Alles
Heleri Alles
10 August 2016 02:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
tegelikult olek spidanud ikka kovasti rohkem hasi-tage panema
10 August 2016 01:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Et siis: Homme ilmub Mart Helme Ekspress, kes andis toimetusele edasi mitmeid suuniseid maailma mõistmiseks. Koosoleku järel läks Helme mõtetest innustunud ajakirjanik sööma ja sellest sündis restorani- või, noh, söögikohaarvustus. UFO pubi asub Tallinna kesklinnas aadressil Kivisilla 2.
Pidin täna ühe ministeeriumiametnikuga lõunale minema. No esmalt käisin ma välja ETV söökla, kuid see hinnati liiga mõttetuks.
-- aa
tuus, helme ise selle kirjutas teis ekohta, mitte ajakirjanik temast nagu algul tundus?
Nu siis veel muud moodi hea, kui iroonia omamoodi endiselt paika püsib.
Pidin täna ühe ministeeriumiametnikuga lõunale minema. No esmalt käisin ma välja ETV söökla, kuid see hinnati liiga mõttetuks.
-- aa
tuus, helme ise selle kirjutas teis ekohta, mitte ajakirjanik temast nagu algul tundus?
Nu siis veel muud moodi hea, kui iroonia omamoodi endiselt paika püsib.
10 August 2016 01:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
„Me peame tegelikult kolme tassi kohvi eest euro maksma,“ üritas ta veel vingerdada, aga ei aidanud.
Ma keerasin otsa enda töökoha poole, et välja teenida enda palk, et maksta maksud, et siis mingid avalikõiguslased saaksid odavamalt süüa ja ministeerium endale kohvimasina, mis ka ei kõlba, raisk.
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voot kus veel mitteametlik lopp pandud, välja sülitatud.
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Ma keerasin otsa enda töökoha poole, et välja teenida enda palk, et maksta maksud, et siis mingid avalikõiguslased saaksid odavamalt süüa ja ministeerium endale kohvimasina, mis ka ei kõlba, raisk.
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voot kus veel mitteametlik lopp pandud, välja sülitatud.
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10 August 2016 01:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aga siis hakkas hädaldamine. Esmalt pidime minema läbi mingist pirukakohast, kuna seal olevat vaja lattet osta.
„Kas teil, muidusööjatel, ministeeriumis kohvimasinat polegi?“ küsisin.
„On küll, õudselt suur ja kallis, aga see annab nii halba kohvi, et me ei joo sealt keegi,“ öeldi vastu.
// Nii ja siis huvitav madal, korglassilik, maalik tagurdus kriitika, naeratades:
" No mul viskas jummala punasesse, et esiteks on maksumaksja raha eest ostetud mingi kuradi faking aparaat ja siis mingi inimene, kes teenib palka maksumaksja raha eest, ütleb, et talle see ei kõlba.
„Kas teil, muidusööjatel, ministeeriumis kohvimasinat polegi?“ küsisin.
„On küll, õudselt suur ja kallis, aga see annab nii halba kohvi, et me ei joo sealt keegi,“ öeldi vastu.
// Nii ja siis huvitav madal, korglassilik, maalik tagurdus kriitika, naeratades:
" No mul viskas jummala punasesse, et esiteks on maksumaksja raha eest ostetud mingi kuradi faking aparaat ja siis mingi inimene, kes teenib palka maksumaksja raha eest, ütleb, et talle see ei kõlba.
10 August 2016 01:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Grillvorst juustuga võlus kohe esmasel maitsekontaktil enda hõrgu tekstuuriga. Taustal oli tunda naatriumglutamanaati,
//ja siis voluda see lause ilusasse hõngu..// kauguses meenuvad õdusad jaaniõhtud, kus sarnaseid juustuga vorstikesi sai natuke liiga palju praetud, seepeale veini joodud ja pärast tüdrukutega flirditud. Noorus tuleb meelde."
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nu siin iroonia loksus peaaegu, juba üle ääre:
"Friikartulid olid justkui otse põllult taldrikule hüpanud. Nii kollased, nii rõõmsad. Tõsi, mäludes sai selgeks, et tegu on sügavkülmast soojendatud moodustistega, aga see ei tohiks probleemiks olla. Üldse on inimesed muutunud ilgeks snoobiks – üks söök ei kõlba, teine söök ei kõlba. Õigemini ei saagi öelda, et tegu oleks inimeste snobismiga, vaid pigem ikka peavoolumeedia probleemiga. Räägitakse peentest sushikohtadest, soovitatakse kalleid veine, räägitakse midagi Ribedest ja V-dest, kiidetakse Õunpuu filme, aga tavainimesele ei mõtle keegi.
--
Wau, puhas kunst:
" Miks mitte pöörduda tagasi lihtsusesse? Sellist snobismi saavad lubada ainult politikaanid, brüsseli tallalakkujad ja maksumaksja raha nuumavad ametnikud.
Teise lauda on saabunud hoolivad inimesed, kes tundsid muret suitsunurka läinud inimese pärast.
„Mis tal viga on?“ küsis üks õllekruusitagune.
„Oot, kellel?“ vastas teine.
„No sellel habemega parmul, kes suitsukas on. Ta hoiab kätt imelikult,“ täpsustati.
„Ah, perse, ei tea.“
Kasiinosõbra lauas hakkab meeleolukas seltskond parasjagu rääkima taas inimlikust teemast – saunast. Kolm meest alustasid vaidlust 120 kraadi juurest ja kui õlleklaas tühjenema hakkas, siis tõusid panused juba 145 kraadini ja sedagi tingimusega, et tegelikult oli rohkem, aga kraadiklaas ei näidanud.
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//ja siis voluda see lause ilusasse hõngu..// kauguses meenuvad õdusad jaaniõhtud, kus sarnaseid juustuga vorstikesi sai natuke liiga palju praetud, seepeale veini joodud ja pärast tüdrukutega flirditud. Noorus tuleb meelde."
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nu siin iroonia loksus peaaegu, juba üle ääre:
"Friikartulid olid justkui otse põllult taldrikule hüpanud. Nii kollased, nii rõõmsad. Tõsi, mäludes sai selgeks, et tegu on sügavkülmast soojendatud moodustistega, aga see ei tohiks probleemiks olla. Üldse on inimesed muutunud ilgeks snoobiks – üks söök ei kõlba, teine söök ei kõlba. Õigemini ei saagi öelda, et tegu oleks inimeste snobismiga, vaid pigem ikka peavoolumeedia probleemiga. Räägitakse peentest sushikohtadest, soovitatakse kalleid veine, räägitakse midagi Ribedest ja V-dest, kiidetakse Õunpuu filme, aga tavainimesele ei mõtle keegi.
--
Wau, puhas kunst:
" Miks mitte pöörduda tagasi lihtsusesse? Sellist snobismi saavad lubada ainult politikaanid, brüsseli tallalakkujad ja maksumaksja raha nuumavad ametnikud.
Teise lauda on saabunud hoolivad inimesed, kes tundsid muret suitsunurka läinud inimese pärast.
„Mis tal viga on?“ küsis üks õllekruusitagune.
„Oot, kellel?“ vastas teine.
„No sellel habemega parmul, kes suitsukas on. Ta hoiab kätt imelikult,“ täpsustati.
„Ah, perse, ei tea.“
Kasiinosõbra lauas hakkab meeleolukas seltskond parasjagu rääkima taas inimlikust teemast – saunast. Kolm meest alustasid vaidlust 120 kraadi juurest ja kui õlleklaas tühjenema hakkas, siis tõusid panused juba 145 kraadini ja sedagi tingimusega, et tegelikult oli rohkem, aga kraadiklaas ei näidanud.
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10 August 2016 01:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Men and Women Against Feminism
but if someone just does not care, at all, and does want to just get away from the situation, then tell them, this is how you feel, you understand this might sound really bad, but you just want to go in peace, you can not take it any-more, and then can even stay in any city place or whatever, as no one is watching you. To much or at all.
Specially if you lose the family and not able to make another deeper connection, then all past might go away and you not connected as human in the end, so you render yourself as useless10 August 2016 00:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Men and Women Against Feminism
and marry and then not get child support money, unless they two get married but child is still outside the family, but they still want to grow her up.
But most of all, man who keeps growing child who is not theirs, and they do not emotionally engage with a women, nor imtime way specially, .. then they should get basic dollars from state, for doing first at all good deed, and for seccond, is better and cheaper then to grow up in foster home by more strangers, and is helping and benefiting all parts of participants like That better, so the Pay should be to a husband, bigger then total cost of what it costs for a mass keeping of child.
With food and later rehabilitation and average worth of foster and real home child for society, how much average different is, just by one child life time,
as parents under observation and system fixed pay, is under watch anyway for ever, as they are part of system now.
Specially updated way, if they stay near to city10 August 2016 00:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Men and Women Against Feminism
who pay for children, who balls was carring seed, is little important right now, as long family is proper and kid in the end needs to get best growing, and who knows her better jet, who would need to start to get at least child report money if they feel they not father by feeling or emotion, but they want as citizen, grow up this child, Proper way, then this should be basic demand, and if her mother is also there to help to do it, this is even greater, i might even become a man or husband if it continues good10 August 2016 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on Jackson Wright's post.
Group: Men and Women Against Feminism
but yea, if ordinary earth situation, man should be human side, and stay the human one on situation, with most greatest care and demanding peace and nice living, who ever they are
or i they prove purposely disrupting your communication with them and your world integration, then you choose another even alien family if needed10 August 2016 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Men and Women Against Feminism
i mean, get out up to when you get possible nice way leaving, find a ticked, so you do not have to find no reason to anyone blaming you for leaving or leaving anyone with no care or running away by breaking shameful way bonds... do it proper and fast,,
tell them that you think they are form other species then you, and you happen to be from another flora, you spiritually discovered, and you need to get out, you finally realised you love, and thank you for that, that you help me to grow so far, and good by! "10 August 2016 00:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Men and Women Against Feminism
unless it's a witch child, or alien one, then call some other communities to help and get yourself forever out of that situation, if you are able to the end to be alive still10 August 2016 00:34
Margus Meigo commented on Jackson Wright's post.
Group: Men and Women Against Feminism
yeah if you grow like father continue to be like father,
think about children moron, grow some balls10 August 2016 00:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Men and Women Against Feminism
i mean what she says10 August 2016 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on PeterSam Wolczuk's post.
Group: Men and Women Against Feminism
true that10 August 2016 00:30
Margus Meigo commented on Sander Laanemaa's post.
Group: Men and Women Against Feminism
who, what are the feminist?10 August 2016 00:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Aja Aeglustamise Ühing
(räägin siis, reaalsest, peas aktiviseerumise võimalikust ajaga töötamise tehnoloogiatesse oma vaibi sisse tuunima nii öelda, kuid ainuüksi tehnoloogiast arusaamine, juba saab muuta ja kuidas muidu ka tead, et muutub kui niisama ei proovi, kuid kas tead niisama hulka, kui muidu ei proovi siis jääb usk ainult... muidu aga jääb ka võimalus kõik kõigijaoks ära lopetada kui avalikustad, vale ajaga toimetamise tehnoloogia mis lihtsasti opitav, näiteks)10 August 2016 00:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Aja Aeglustamise Ühing
mul päris motteline idee oli ka aja osas, et kuidas seda reaalselt enda ümber hetkel peas ümber korraldada, kuid juppe piisavaid ei saanud üksi kaua üleval hoida, et aeglasena oleksin siis suvatsenud vajalikud detailid üleskirjutada, et seda kirjeldada endalegi, eemaplepakkuv huvi oli selle tehnoloogia osas, sest nagu i tundunud nii deep ja vajalikult aegavõttev olema, et sellepeale aega praegu investeerida, isegi selle kirjutamine olulisem,
et osad ajas toimetamise tehnoloogiaid, ei ole väärt korvale jatma seda mida sa tegelikult maailmas teha tahtsid, mitte vahendeid luua ainult vaid ka jüuga öelda kuivaja milleks siia ilma keegi sündis, eriti enda üldist heasuunalisust, sünnipõhjuste osas, peate arvestama10 August 2016 00:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Aja Aeglustamise Ühing
eks ta ka üks hea ajatööriist ole, kuid kui moraale ja norme ei opi kus mida kummitada võib ja kolada, elementaarseid, et hoiad meeles asja parandamise, pidevalt10 August 2016 00:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Aja Aeglustamise Ühing
Võib ka täitsa ilma LSDta kohtuda.10 August 2016 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Aja Aeglustamise Ühing
miskeid plaane ka maha istutakse ja joonistatakse selles osas, siis mõne chilli olemisemu pool, kui mulmugav koht oleks, võiks ka teha10 August 2016 00:06
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Dalton's post.
Group: Aja Aeglustamise Ühing
See normaalne mees, temaga ammu tahtnud rääkida, aga ta poeg ei lasknud läbi viimane kord10 August 2016 00:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so in their situation, it shows man screw-up in where they are,
most likely they will go to save their husbands and not even revenge, to a man specially
most likely they will go to save their husbands and not even revenge, to a man specially
9 August 2016 23:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
can You imagine useless man who have left women to leave this kind of situations, as u can see from style, they are the kind who smart about how to be woman and remain respectful, and newer going to submission by evil, more then saving life needs, if they know they can handle it, unless better to take them with yourself...as you will end up most likely, if likely, in where is needed anyway.
9 August 2016 23:57
Margus Meigo commented on Humberto Durán's post.
why they look so dramatic
9 August 2016 23:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga mis boss ta on kui kella järgi päevast päeva jookseb, millal bossiks hakkab... ja töölisi orjusest ära kutsuma, tsillima, joinima rohkem, peresi liitma
9 August 2016 23:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sest nei on systeem peal, mis nende elu ebanaturaalseks on teinud, et ei saa olla boss, kes mitte midagi ei tee voi ainult mida tahab enamasti, ja siis ka nii nagu meeldib
9 August 2016 23:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui, ei lasta...
9 August 2016 23:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
isegi äpuimatega
9 August 2016 23:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tegelt koik tööandjad tahaksid ju mehkeldada oma töötajatega
9 August 2016 23:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid kui just Naisena ei soovi ja see osa juba muus plaanis või hiljem, siis sobib täiesti tööpartneriks ja juhendajaks kes talub alandusena tunduvaid yldistuslike kriitikat nende enda koostöö parneri suust, selliselt, et paneb kahtlema, kas on ikka koostöös või jumal teab milles, et kui suudad maha rahuneda ja vaibuda sellistest oletuslikest olukordadest, senikaua kui teine ka tundub loplikult mitte ülepiiri minev, kui just ise meelega ei lükka, ja isegi siis, kenasti.
Vot, kui selline töökeskond talutav tundub, siis võid kohe täitsajulgelt tulla, koikidele muudele, see mul siin vabanduseks, kui esimeseks vaidluseks läheb, kus sa iseseisvat tööd ei tee nii nagu vaja (jah, selle lopu tähendus sedasi, et kus filosoofia on Sind usaldada kuid osad asjad karmilt keelatud jätuvalt, aegajalt, eri küljealt ja jutus, siis nende asjade kallal teematsemine võib võtta vaest rohkem energiat kui see praktiliselt tundub vajalik nende asjade tehtudsaamiseks mis vaja kui lihtsalt tööna votta kellaajaks kuid teise point on, et PEAB tegema vabalt, või muidu, muidu ei ole ikkagi see mida vaja, isegi kui filigrantselt on, pikkka aaega. Et kui need olukorrrad ka käepärased, siis ka timm)
(võtan vastu ka austusemeelega muslemite naisi kes eksinud, tava naisi, õige usu sh. Õige Usu naisi, isegi kui nad kaks aastat kiimlema peavad )
Vot, kui selline töökeskond talutav tundub, siis võid kohe täitsajulgelt tulla, koikidele muudele, see mul siin vabanduseks, kui esimeseks vaidluseks läheb, kus sa iseseisvat tööd ei tee nii nagu vaja (jah, selle lopu tähendus sedasi, et kus filosoofia on Sind usaldada kuid osad asjad karmilt keelatud jätuvalt, aegajalt, eri küljealt ja jutus, siis nende asjade kallal teematsemine võib võtta vaest rohkem energiat kui see praktiliselt tundub vajalik nende asjade tehtudsaamiseks mis vaja kui lihtsalt tööna votta kellaajaks kuid teise point on, et PEAB tegema vabalt, või muidu, muidu ei ole ikkagi see mida vaja, isegi kui filigrantselt on, pikkka aaega. Et kui need olukorrrad ka käepärased, siis ka timm)
(võtan vastu ka austusemeelega muslemite naisi kes eksinud, tava naisi, õige usu sh. Õige Usu naisi, isegi kui nad kaks aastat kiimlema peavad )
9 August 2016 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
näh, ei mingeid moraali jõnksumisi,
väga hea, loodame
väga hea, loodame
9 August 2016 23:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja suurem osa ideesi on alati ootel üksteisega ja teineteisega sidumiseks kuigi suurem osa nad juba kobaras osa muudest varjantide puntidest, kuid pool elusa materialina,teades kuidas vaja kokku panna ja ehitada, eri osadest eri varjantides mitme eri moodusega paremasse kohta jõudmaks, mis kõik samad suunad, kuid sest muid suundi tuleb ka hoida, et ise kaarega minnes kohale jõuaksid, teepeal vajad, et vahet poleks, ei tuleks, keeramisega õigele teele, vaja eri rohtusi ja opetusi, inimesi ja kogemusi, kuid siis järjepidevalt keerata, tead, et keerad oiges suuunas aga ei ole õiges suunas, ja siis teepeal ei saa lasta häirida häiretest, vaid tänada kui vaja, neid kes meelde tuletavad, et oigele teele vja minna, kuni kellegil pole miskit öelda, muud kui head. Ja kuni ise ka tead, kuidas vastata alati, nii,kuidas aitavam või aitaVaim on.
9 August 2016 20:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Väga väheseid inimesi kelle jaoks ei oleks plaane,
kui on mõni, siis antke teada, miskis listis. Isiklikus listis kohe kindlasti, natukene mõelda ja meelde tuletada, küsida ja uurida, et tänapäeva olu ja eluga parlanksi viia, ja siis vola, ongi lahendusi lisaks olemas, mida ei pole alati kasutama, aga arusaada võiks peama, et on veel lisaks need varjandid, pool või päris reaalsed, suure võimalusega, et hüpates maha rongilt, lahti öeldes võrgust, eemaldudes vangistusest, ei lange sa rööpasse ega tee endale haiget, kui siis ainult põlved korra mustaks.
Kasvõi palvetamisestki,
(või, pehmemast mahakukkumised kui ette kujutasid, või uut moodi raske, kuid elulisema potensiaaliga, kui nüüd eelmisi tarkusi ka uues samblas õrnalt lihvida, ja uut mida tead arvesse võttes..kuid mitte uuesti ärisse langedes, vaid ku isiis teenusesse. Kuid mitte kinni, lopuks )
kui on mõni, siis antke teada, miskis listis. Isiklikus listis kohe kindlasti, natukene mõelda ja meelde tuletada, küsida ja uurida, et tänapäeva olu ja eluga parlanksi viia, ja siis vola, ongi lahendusi lisaks olemas, mida ei pole alati kasutama, aga arusaada võiks peama, et on veel lisaks need varjandid, pool või päris reaalsed, suure võimalusega, et hüpates maha rongilt, lahti öeldes võrgust, eemaldudes vangistusest, ei lange sa rööpasse ega tee endale haiget, kui siis ainult põlved korra mustaks.
Kasvõi palvetamisestki,
(või, pehmemast mahakukkumised kui ette kujutasid, või uut moodi raske, kuid elulisema potensiaaliga, kui nüüd eelmisi tarkusi ka uues samblas õrnalt lihvida, ja uut mida tead arvesse võttes..kuid mitte uuesti ärisse langedes, vaid ku isiis teenusesse. Kuid mitte kinni, lopuks )
9 August 2016 20:10
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lehmberg's post.
Group: UFO UpDates
He also has nice inputs about various living settings of various beings. Should combine, the common pictures and extra (i also know how)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209144377623290&set=a.1265262108399.2041736.1135161043&type=3&theater9 August 2016 20:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
later in life, got plan also with everyone on my list..
9 August 2016 20:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eks tulevikus keegi võib ikka mitte teada.. et nende puhul, on nede peas, hinges vähem midagi siis kui pole leivale mõtelnud?
(motlen veel ise sellele, oleks nagu jaa)
(motlen veel ise sellele, oleks nagu jaa)
9 August 2016 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
kas teate leiva lõhna.
Ja kui seda pole olnud, kas siis tead vähem ?
Ja kui seda pole olnud, kas siis tead vähem ?
9 August 2016 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Mis lohn on lemuurial..
9 August 2016 19:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mis ta teeb? Kes ta on?
9 August 2016 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Mis tema nimi on?
9 August 2016 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
oled nende sammalde peal proovinud kondida, ka peale paljujalu, kas arvad on palju konkurentsi lihtsuse ja effektiivsuse suhkes, mis parema katte paneks vähekonnitavatel aladel, su enda jaoks
9 August 2016 19:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Yes behind the first magical look.. you see crossing allowing mark there, in purpose..
/first raw.. seem to be between Your own and city border..
/first raw.. seem to be between Your own and city border..
9 August 2016 19:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Allar Kaljundi J.
9 August 2016 19:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
peab pidevalt midagi sellist kasutama, sest YT oma editor ei ole nii adekvaatne, kuigi vabalt võiks olla
http://moviemakeronline.com/
http://moviemakeronline.com/
http://moviemakeronline.com/
9 August 2016 19:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kui mitte olla teadvusel, siis tihti inimene ei märka, et ta juba on selles kohas ja ülesandes olnud, olukordades, sarnase põhimõttega, olukorraga või täpselt see aeg uuesti selle pärast mis enne oli, puud pead molemale poole kasvatama, kes ütleb, kummad lehed ja juured ono lulisemad, need mis taeva sees või maa sees,
ilma üheta mõtet näeb veelgi vähe olema, kui just ei surma, aga teisipidi keerulisem ja arvatavasti surmavam, kui juured lõigata, võrreldes lehtedega.
Kuid inimesed harjunud oma jukseid sedasi kärpima, et mõne puude kärpimistki ei saa aru, et peaks tundma halastust
ilma üheta mõtet näeb veelgi vähe olema, kui just ei surma, aga teisipidi keerulisem ja arvatavasti surmavam, kui juured lõigata, võrreldes lehtedega.
Kuid inimesed harjunud oma jukseid sedasi kärpima, et mõne puude kärpimistki ei saa aru, et peaks tundma halastust
9 August 2016 19:22
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Ja siis kui jätkad, ei ole asi selles enam, kas jätkad ja saad füüsilisel tasandil ka uuestitajuda seda kõike kuni lausa uuesti sinna aega hüpates ja läbi elades, ja siis isekes suudaks riskida, sellega, et siis uueringiga sa hoopis ei eemalda kõike.. kuna erinevus uue ringiga tuleb nii suur, et mis arvad paremini tegevat, teeb magneti reaktsiooni hoopis, aga enne ringile mines, enne hypet, otsust, võib olla, et inimne pole minevikku täielikult läbi mõelnud ja tuleviku plaanis hoida, need õigest korda loota ja teha , kuid oluline on minevikkku sama selgelt hoida peas, kui tulevikku,
9 August 2016 19:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mõelda vaid, ma ju sundinud naisi suht suuri rõvedusi tegema, arvates, et see on meie mõnu.
9 August 2016 19:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi Kui Sulle antakse pilet ajarännakuks,
valitsuste isued, siis esmast elreisjatel vaadatakse kas nad täis puhastavad ja üpaigaldavad uueks oma patud või lükkavad lausa veel hoogu takka, sellele mis oli.
valitsuste isued, siis esmast elreisjatel vaadatakse kas nad täis puhastavad ja üpaigaldavad uueks oma patud või lükkavad lausa veel hoogu takka, sellele mis oli.
9 August 2016 19:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See pühataim, elus hingega vb, siis tuleb ikka enne häälestada ja peensusi aru saada, mida mille jaoks selle vaim sättib, sõnub ja seadistab... kui midagi muud ootad, siis ei pruugi märgatagi.
Nagu saab mööda märgata ka igast muid tegevusi tehes, ja siis ei saanutki seda tunda mida tegid, ei tajuda, ainult mäletada, et ah, kah oli jah.. või ülikõva, KÕVA.. ja siis lihtsalt muus pinges mäletus,aga reaalne, taju...
Nagu saab mööda märgata ka igast muid tegevusi tehes, ja siis ei saanutki seda tunda mida tegid, ei tajuda, ainult mäletada, et ah, kah oli jah.. või ülikõva, KÕVA.. ja siis lihtsalt muus pinges mäletus,aga reaalne, taju...
9 August 2016 19:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Olen vaimsete huvidega ja hetkel üksi
ei noh, teoreetiuliselt nad suutelised tegema kõike jah, kuid see umbes sama kui pankur näitab, korra kuidas ta muusikat ka mängida oskab avalikul üritusel,
kuid ta ei jää seda tegema ju, vaid ikka oma töö ossa9 August 2016 19:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Olen vaimsete huvidega ja hetkel üksi
ega huulepulka... kelle jaoks ja miks nad seda tegema peaks... maagilised joonistused kellel ajutiselt, on teine asi..9 August 2016 19:07
Margus Meigo commented on Pille Tali's post.
Group: Olen vaimsete huvidega ja hetkel üksi
Shamaani naised ei värvi ripsmeid9 August 2016 19:07
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's post.
Group: Olen vaimsete huvidega ja hetkel üksi
Mul Alcoholi osas profiilil ka paar Dr. Nutti videot sai just postitatud..
Ta suht revolutsiooniline, lasti lahti UK olulisemast teadlaste lauast kes valitsuse informatsiooni jaoks tehtud oli, andmaks andmeid mis on kuidas kahjulik,
ahjaa lasti lahti selle pärast, et hakkas rääkima nii nagu on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npeUYNv8gtohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npeUYNv8gto
9 August 2016 19:05
Margus Meigo commented on Katariina Mänd's post.
Group: Olen vaimsete huvidega ja hetkel üksi
..ja enda väärtusest9 August 2016 19:04
Margus Meigo commented on Katariina Mänd's post.
Group: Olen vaimsete huvidega ja hetkel üksi
Vevalt, kui teada mis need asjad on ja kui inimesel jumalik kaitse puudub ka veel, arusaam kodumaast ja..9 August 2016 19:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Got the Book from Estonia traveller, who is one of the few members of official Native American Church, initiated.
9 August 2016 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on Humberto Durán's post.
I can not see video, what does he say ?
9 August 2016 18:23
Margus Meigo commented on Michel Bauwens's post.
Group: P2P
It would be All good, (probabaly Fabian Society behind it..)
would be all good, if they would implement all the other norms same time, as same project.. you just can not start giving out money and hope people to get better, with out explaining them for what money is and for what to use it, But liberal hypnotized start to scream "ooh it is OUUUR business what we do... NOONE should tell us!! " pla pla.. idiotic reactions. Considered the situation.
We must, IF given for Free, explain Where and Why it comes, and in same document, (as is related to money people might read it if it is short)..
attached book to it, what is mentioned on the New Paper About Money (from these who hand money out..). Perhaps give out every month recite where words also remind "have You read this before, why You get this money and what should we do in Earth?"
and in that book, can ask from me as well, what should be there, but it should be from basic farming, proper goods, proper values in relations of humans and family, comparison of fake and real products common ones, extreme examples, comparing value of Cola and proper Juice ... comparing benefit of alcohol and proper other drugs and psychedelics, spiritual and godly domains and mentions of most important probably good nature beliefs.
Then it is like payng 100 eur a month (or how much was it? EU wanted to give 100 to 300 i think..) so people would read what is needed, specially needed for education large group of immigrants, to educate about our highest standard, matriarchal values and farming culture, .... as they many do not know or understand, why and how people get money here really.. many think we just do what we like and just get it.. as they do not see much a real work in city, just people running around... it is like different kind of alien world for them where they will be adjusting their life. As well as they know or bother.
Problem is not the ones who are able to copy our life, bigger problem might be, the ones who will be here with pride to not do our way, to not respect in our way, the ones who do not feel like guests. At least for now, when states stay strong as borders, people should be feeling like visitors in other land, not as permanent residents.
Many lands in Europe, have not worked to make their life impossible in their land, so we should not feel guilty.. but their strategy is always been also (the invaders) to take people from their home, and make their life so impossible, by using some gov's that these people are forced in to third place, so there would be conflict or culture demolition happening, but people who host visitors, will be manipulated by emotions, that You are terrible, if You not do it... but instead, we should working on getting their land on order, and sending people back to their home, when it is ready again, with new knowledges and health from Europe and other lands who help.
It is IMPOSSIBLE with SO great military forces as Russia, USA, China etc, and NATO, to be unable to go in from all directions, and make complete order fast in there, .. and by not moving local gov, just putting on to fact, that "You must start to live proper, build up your land, or else.. people wait to come back to your land"
but where we would find so real commanders, who would be able to do it..9 August 2016 17:38
Margus Meigo commented on Michel Bauwens's post.
Group: P2P
jup,
specially if people is so silly and keep living in alcohol and time wasting activities...
Smart group of people would be able to use that for good perhaps.. but for me, that would be biggest amount of money in years that am would have per month :p So hard to make me poorer with that move..
But yea, i know their plans, it was old time bitcoin meeting also explained, as one of the Russian groups had technology plans for make universal accounts and give everyone every month digital, as it would work out for some time well. As "money is invented anyway"
and it would be coming back in circles nearly "out of nowhere".
So yea.. but the point NEWER is the money, actually, for them, on highest darkest places, but to direct human using of things and activities, that they would keep it up so, as they would be able to use (on alien domains) use human various kind of energies but most of all to make with us in various settings and reasons.
This have been reason for most of the laws in last 2000 years, they just have to invent strong impenetrable cover, "system" for it, where looking in, no one would be able to find solution, and where nearly no one would be daring to imagine, that this is just invention, to do something completely else.
Reality is MUCH more harsh... yes, by earthly calculations, make poorer or richer, what ever benefits more, in various groups, to hook them up in fictitious jobs (in big picture) or in to situations where various human looking partners can access in real life or in sleeping places, work places, ... humans can be stopped, and resumed... they newer know. Except some mistakes and anomalies and species versions. Perhaps some training ones also.
So yea... read "Ancient Teachers of Making" page 370 or somewhere, was it about "alien nurses, playmates and ... for hybrid children" - this is one of the few good account collections in mainstream, have heard that from personal accounts, from many older women also, who live in proper high class life.9 August 2016 17:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Üritused Tallinnas/Tallinn Events
ja siis aint jama pärast mehel kaelas.. naisest rääkimata9 August 2016 17:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Üritused Tallinnas/Tallinn Events
naiste purjujootmine ka omamoodi kuritegu, meestele kes kainetega ei julge või ei oska9 August 2016 17:09
Margus Meigo commented on Raido Kasela's post.
Group: Üritused Tallinnas/Tallinn Events
kuid see pilt ikka väga õudsa reaalsuse täheistmisega, alates blondeeritustjuustest (mis naise eluloomuliku taju tapab) kuni nukuni välja millega teatud olendite sees neid nähakse.... kuid jah., väga sügavaleminna saab ehk head ka kätte, kuid nagu jah..9 August 2016 17:08
Margus Meigo commented on Raido Kasela's post.
Group: Üritused Tallinnas/Tallinn Events
milleks sellised haiged pidid... nü vähemasti rist on õiget pidi,., hea seegi, pole päris odavaks mindud9 August 2016 17:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Toomas Saarepera mõtlesin, et panen kasutuse selle : )
9 August 2016 05:45
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's post.
Wao... omg.. You, May!
So .. nice long color
just keep spirit!
Good!
So .. nice long color
just keep spirit!
Good!
9 August 2016 05:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
FB is for me, part of my job, with no pay, jet,
Part of my personal notebook, part of project, part of tests and investigations... and part of hope and guarantee.
But i can make, it much much better, this what am hopping to be able to help out this worlds most, at some time
Part of my personal notebook, part of project, part of tests and investigations... and part of hope and guarantee.
But i can make, it much much better, this what am hopping to be able to help out this worlds most, at some time
9 August 2016 02:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
9 August 2016 02:30
Margus Meigo replied to Harri Kingo's comment.
Jätavad ainult südametu iha ja kuju ilu väär kujutluse.. selle asemel, et promoda naiselike tegelikke ilu külgi, siirust, õrnust, tugevust, ilu, naturaalsust, tervist, emalikust, neiulikust, tüdrukulikust, vanaema...
Selle asemel, lastakse vaimumaailmal ruunata ja lihaletti vaadata ja veel sada muud trikki teha, et naisi ebanaiselikeks saada ideaalide järgi milleni tava naised ei küündi sest nad pole sellest liigistki tihti kelle järgi olla soovitakse... ja soovitakse, sest öeldakse, aga pole mingit vajadust..
Iga naturaalne naine teab, et blondeerimine ja tikk konsad on tema mõistusele, vabadusele ja elule, hingele väga kahjulikud, kuid ikka tehakse neid totrusi ja lõigatakse läbi sidemeid..
Selle asemel, lastakse vaimumaailmal ruunata ja lihaletti vaadata ja veel sada muud trikki teha, et naisi ebanaiselikeks saada ideaalide järgi milleni tava naised ei küündi sest nad pole sellest liigistki tihti kelle järgi olla soovitakse... ja soovitakse, sest öeldakse, aga pole mingit vajadust..
Iga naturaalne naine teab, et blondeerimine ja tikk konsad on tema mõistusele, vabadusele ja elule, hingele väga kahjulikud, kuid ikka tehakse neid totrusi ja lõigatakse läbi sidemeid..
9 August 2016 01:55
Margus Meigo replied to Harri Kingo's comment.
Räägi seda mõtet veel lahti, päris huvitav
9 August 2016 01:52
Margus Meigo replied to Harri Kingo's comment.
just, selle jumala need rooma kollid sellest ilust eemaldavatki, et ainult kuju jääks, mida ise kontrollida ja ära visata kui vaja pole, kuid mitte mingil juhul lasta neil oma võimusuurest aru saada, kardavad need rooma homo tulnukad.
Mõned isegi ei tea, et rooma GEY-sririik, impeerium, ametlikult alles paarsada aaastat tagasi lõpetati ja ka selleks, et jälgi segada, ja korraks prantslane pukki panna ja et peale seda enam aru ei saadaks, kes kus varjus mida juhatab..
Mõned isegi ei tea, et rooma GEY-sririik, impeerium, ametlikult alles paarsada aaastat tagasi lõpetati ja ka selleks, et jälgi segada, ja korraks prantslane pukki panna ja et peale seda enam aru ei saadaks, kes kus varjus mida juhatab..
9 August 2016 01:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.facebook.com/LondonReal/videos/1074596282587635/?pnref=story
9 August 2016 01:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
9 August 2016 01:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
9 August 2016 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on Vesanus Coprocapitus's post.
Group: Witchyleaks
crap, i am a bitch!9 August 2016 01:21
Margus Meigo commented on Donald Correll's post.
Group: Witchyleaks
Explain in long, also to others please : )9 August 2016 01:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Witchyleaks
This book You know?9 August 2016 01:16
Margus Meigo commented on Francine Booysens's post.
peruulastel on ühed maailma vanimad rahvalood ja suurimaid rahvataimede ja psüheedelsete asjade kogumid.. eks see ole ka põhjus, lisaks sellele ,et nad metsa ei luba maha võtta..
9 August 2016 01:12
Margus Meigo commented on Francine Booysens's post.
Eesti võiks ka vabalt olla, veelgi praktilisemalt, ... loodame, et varsti, kuid ki kõvasti häält ei tehta, siis leitakse võimalus hääle kaotamiseks , sest miks peaks keegi, kes ei soovi, et inimesed jumalariigist ja struktuuridest aru saaks, miks peaks nad selle võimaluse maha magada sulgemiseks, ja veelgi vabamaks lasta asjal minna..
Peruulaste iidne perepuu likvideeriti viimase sund-steriliseeerimis kampaania lopuks aastal 2000 pea-aegu täielikult. pea kuni 450 000 inimest, minimaalselt 250 000 valitsuse enda sõnul "ainult" kohas kus neid elas 2 millionit..(sellest keele osast).
Liberaalide partei oigustas, et see on majandusele hea, sest need inimesed ei soovinud üsteemi astuda, nad olid vaesed ja sedasi pidi saama majanduse keskmist tõsta kergesti...
Tema tütar, kelle isa eelmise genotsiidi tegi (enne seda veel mitu salajast lainet tehtud, 60ndatel ja muul ajal) kandideeris presidendiks nüüd, vast sai ka, kuigi väike linna suurune protest tehti, kuid sellest protestist ei saanud lääne meedias rääkida, sest teema on ebasobilik meie teadvusele, sest hakkaksime mõtlema äkki, miks neid siis steriliseeriti tegelikult ja miks just eri keele oskajate gruppi ja miks sellest ei räägitud ja..
Peruulaste iidne perepuu likvideeriti viimase sund-steriliseeerimis kampaania lopuks aastal 2000 pea-aegu täielikult. pea kuni 450 000 inimest, minimaalselt 250 000 valitsuse enda sõnul "ainult" kohas kus neid elas 2 millionit..(sellest keele osast).
Liberaalide partei oigustas, et see on majandusele hea, sest need inimesed ei soovinud üsteemi astuda, nad olid vaesed ja sedasi pidi saama majanduse keskmist tõsta kergesti...
Tema tütar, kelle isa eelmise genotsiidi tegi (enne seda veel mitu salajast lainet tehtud, 60ndatel ja muul ajal) kandideeris presidendiks nüüd, vast sai ka, kuigi väike linna suurune protest tehti, kuid sellest protestist ei saanud lääne meedias rääkida, sest teema on ebasobilik meie teadvusele, sest hakkaksime mõtlema äkki, miks neid siis steriliseeriti tegelikult ja miks just eri keele oskajate gruppi ja miks sellest ei räägitud ja..
9 August 2016 01:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jah, on erandeid, ise tegijaid või muid sebijaid, elu muutjaid, kuid enamus.. kui õnnelikuks saavad jääda, ise mitte valides kuidas on vaja ja mille jaoks, kellele..
Oh, siis pead vast kuskil juhatuses olema öeldakse.. ja kui juhatuses, kas siis enam lepingutega sobib..
Oh, siis pead vast kuskil juhatuses olema öeldakse.. ja kui juhatuses, kas siis enam lepingutega sobib..
8 August 2016 14:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
...ja mis on ilu, ilma armastuseta?
Trofee, ajutine, nagu roomlastel ikka olnud... mida austusega sassi aeti..
Trofee, ajutine, nagu roomlastel ikka olnud... mida austusega sassi aeti..
8 August 2016 14:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
haaapsalus kuskili pidi olema, uurin..
8 August 2016 13:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nu?
8 August 2016 13:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tean, et pean, aga ika ei suuda veel üksi ettekujutada, et see võimalik saab olla. Vast armastuse, saab ainult suurem armastus katta, et see eelmise täitmatta südameunistuse piirdesse jäämise asemel selle integreeriks ja suurelt pool sammmu kaugemale viiks, et muu vajalikuseta pimestuks ja vajalike mälestustena ainult jääks, rahu, rõõm, arusaaamisega ja õnn!
Armas Arm, Armastus..
Armas Arm, Armastus..
8 August 2016 13:21
Margus Meigo commented on Mai-Liis Lehtmets's post.
Vau! ...ooot matemaaatiliselt ka?
8 August 2016 13:16
Margus Meigo commented on Mai-Liis Lehtmets's post.
Eks ta suht mõõõtmatamõiste, mõõtmatumõiste ole mehe jaoks, elu raskemad hetked mehel on ju enamasti naise vingumine jms, võrreldes aga elu tekitamisega..
8 August 2016 13:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
see hyppas ise lahti, siis mõtlesin, nu las olla..
8 August 2016 13:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Sinine vöö võiks hakata ka me rahvuse meeldetuletuseks, hingeskandmiseks olema.. ja mustrid ka kodumaiseks veel ning..
8 August 2016 13:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sellel heal telefonil, moned nii häirivad vead, et viis microsoft pankroti sellle idee osas..
8 August 2016 13:04
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8 August 2016 13:00
Margus Meigo commented on Edson P. Andres's photo.
8.24 + ...
8 August 2016 12:58
Margus Meigo commented on Edson P. Andres's photo.
Yes, She is the life and Wisdom (proverbs 8:24)
8 August 2016 12:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
enne käekülgepanekut, tuleb paar aastat tajuda mis ja kuidas kasvab jub kohapeal ja siis strateegiad.. kui kohavaimuga kontaktis, mis jumalal selles kohas vaja on
7 August 2016 15:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
See kõik hooldusvabalt
7 August 2016 15:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kui vaid oleks kaamera värskemal ajal ka olnud..
7 August 2016 15:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
For sacred drug use, see Entheogen.:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheogen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheogen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheogen
7 August 2016 15:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_herbs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_herbs
7 August 2016 15:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Yarrow intensifies the medicinal action of other herbs taken with it. [unreliable medical source?] It is reported to be associated with the treatment of the following ailments:
Pain, antiphlogistic,bleeding, gastrointestinal disorders, choleretic[inflammation,emmenagogue,stomachache.
Pain, antiphlogistic,bleeding, gastrointestinal disorders, choleretic[inflammation,emmenagogue,stomachache.
7 August 2016 15:07
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Several cavity-nesting birds, including the common starling, use yarrow to line their nests. Experiments conducted on the tree swallow, which does not use yarrow, suggest that adding yarrow to nests inhibits the growth of parasites.[58]
Its essential oil kills the larvae of the mosquito Aedes albopictus
Its essential oil kills the larvae of the mosquito Aedes albopictus
7 August 2016 15:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Native americas
"Yarrow and its North American varieties, was used in traditional Native American herbal medicine by tribes across the continent.[53] The Navajo considered it to be a "life medicine", chewed it for toothaches, and poured an infusion into ears for earaches. The Miwok in California used the plant as an analgesic and head cold remedy.[53]
Several tribes of the Plains Indians used common yarrow. The Pawnee used the stalk for pain relief. The Chippewa used the leaves for headaches by inhaling it in a steam. They also chewed the roots and applied the saliva to their appendages as a stimulant. The Cherokee drank a tea of common yarrow to reduce fever and aid in restful sleep.[53]
Among the Zuni people use the occidentalis variety medicinally. The blossoms and root are chewed, and the juice applied before fire-walking or fire-eating. A poultice of the pulverized plant is mixed with water and applied to burns.[54] Recently it was reported that treatment with Achillea millefolium may attenuate disease severity, inflammatory responses, and demyelinating lesions in a mouse model of Multiple Sclerosis.
"Yarrow and its North American varieties, was used in traditional Native American herbal medicine by tribes across the continent.[53] The Navajo considered it to be a "life medicine", chewed it for toothaches, and poured an infusion into ears for earaches. The Miwok in California used the plant as an analgesic and head cold remedy.[53]
Several tribes of the Plains Indians used common yarrow. The Pawnee used the stalk for pain relief. The Chippewa used the leaves for headaches by inhaling it in a steam. They also chewed the roots and applied the saliva to their appendages as a stimulant. The Cherokee drank a tea of common yarrow to reduce fever and aid in restful sleep.[53]
Among the Zuni people use the occidentalis variety medicinally. The blossoms and root are chewed, and the juice applied before fire-walking or fire-eating. A poultice of the pulverized plant is mixed with water and applied to burns.[54] Recently it was reported that treatment with Achillea millefolium may attenuate disease severity, inflammatory responses, and demyelinating lesions in a mouse model of Multiple Sclerosis.
7 August 2016 15:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
n the Hebrides a leaf held against the eyes was believed to give second sight
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_sight
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_sight
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_sight
7 August 2016 15:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Chinese proverbs claim yarrow brightens the eyes and promotes intelligence.
Yarrow and tortoiseshell are considered to be lucky in Chinese tradition.[
The stalks are dried and used as a randomising agent in I Ching divination
Yarrow and tortoiseshell are considered to be lucky in Chinese tradition.[
The stalks are dried and used as a randomising agent in I Ching divination
7 August 2016 15:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Liiginime millefolium (tuhandelehine) on raudrohi saanud oma filigraanselt lõhestunud lehtede tõttu[6].
7 August 2016 14:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Vaat kus lugu, nina osas:
"Raudrohtu on ammustest aegadest peetud pühaks taimeks. Keltide iidsed teadjamehed ennustasid raudrohu vartega ilma. Vana-Hiina ennustamist käsitlevas raamatus "Yijing" soovitatakse ennustada tulevikku 52 ühesuuruse kuivatatud raudrohuvarrega. Raudrohtu on seostatud ka maagiaga. Anglosaksi kultuurides usuti, et raudrohi kaitseb kurjuse eest. Iirlased riputasid jaanipäeval koju kimbukese raudrohtu, et hoida eemal haigusi. Põhja-Ameerikast on pärit uskumus, et raudrohu abil saab kindlaks teha, kas väljavalitu petab või mitte. Kui neiu sügab raudrohuga nina ja sellest hakkab verd jooksma, on noormees truu"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achillea_millefolium
"Raudrohtu on ammustest aegadest peetud pühaks taimeks. Keltide iidsed teadjamehed ennustasid raudrohu vartega ilma. Vana-Hiina ennustamist käsitlevas raamatus "Yijing" soovitatakse ennustada tulevikku 52 ühesuuruse kuivatatud raudrohuvarrega. Raudrohtu on seostatud ka maagiaga. Anglosaksi kultuurides usuti, et raudrohi kaitseb kurjuse eest. Iirlased riputasid jaanipäeval koju kimbukese raudrohtu, et hoida eemal haigusi. Põhja-Ameerikast on pärit uskumus, et raudrohu abil saab kindlaks teha, kas väljavalitu petab või mitte. Kui neiu sügab raudrohuga nina ja sellest hakkab verd jooksma, on noormees truu"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achillea_millefolium
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achillea_millefolium
7 August 2016 14:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Harilik raudrohi on ravimtaim, millel korjatakse ja seejärel kuivatatakse kas kogu taimi või siis üksnes õisikuid. Raudrohi sisaldab eeterlikke õlisid, parkaineid, flavonoide, kamprit, raudrohu ladinakeelse nime järgi nimetatud ahhilleiini, mineraalaineid, eriti kaaliumi, ja teisi aineid, mis on sageli kibeda maitsega. Värskeid võrseid ja lehti saab salatiks kasutada. Õisikuid saab kasutada näonaha hoolduseks ja selleks tehakse auruvanne.
Hulk liblikaröövikuid sööb raudrohtu, sealjuures perekondade Bucculatrix ja Coleophora isendid ei söö peale raudrohtude teisi taimi.
Raudrohu ladinakeelne nimetus on tulnud vanakreeka mütoloogia tegelase Achilleuse järgi. "Iliases" kasutasid Achilleuse sõdurid raudrohtu haavade raviks. Eurypylos viis Achilleusele sõnumit, kui sai noolehaava jalga. Patroklos lõikas nooleotsa haavast välja, pesi kogu musta vere ära ja pani haavale purustatud raudrohtu, mis "Iliase" järgi võttis kogu valu ära ja sulges haava. Seda kunsti oli Patroklos õppinud Achilleuselt, kes omakorda oli seda õppinud Cheironilt, kõige targemalt kentaurilt
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Veelkorra:
Raudrohi sisaldab eeterlikke õlisid, mõru- ja parkaineid. Kuivatatud võsutükkidest ja õitest valmistatud tee mõjub seedimist soodustavalt ning lõdvestavalt. Takistab põletike tekkimist, mõjub verejooksu sulgevalt ja aitab menstruatsioonivaevuste puhul. Pikemaajalisel tarbimisel võib põhjustada liigset vere hüübimist.
Värskelt kogutud noored lehed sobivad leivakatteks või salatite, kohupiima ja köögiviljatoitude lisandiks. Rasvased toidud seeduvad raudrohu mõjul kergemini.
Kauaõitseva (õitseb juunist septembrini) ning vastupidava püsikuna sobib harilik raudrohi peenralilleks ja konteinerites kasvatamiseks. Raudrohu sortidest on iluaianduses tuntuimad: 'Red Beauty', 'Summer Pastels', 'Paprika', 'Terracotta'[1].
Kui taimed noorelt tagasi lõigata, siis moodustab tiheda tallamiskindla muru. Selline muru on sobilik kuivadele ja kivistele nõlvadele, kus kõrreliste muru rajamine enamasti ei õnnestu. Taim talub hästi ka tolmu ja linnade mürgiseid gaase[2].
Alkoholitööstuses kasutatakse nastoikade maitsestamiseks[3].
Lõike- ja kuivlilledena kasutatavad õied meelitavad ligi arvukalt putukaid, seal hulgas ka mesilasi. Meeproduktiivsus võib olla kuni 30 kg/ha
Hulk liblikaröövikuid sööb raudrohtu, sealjuures perekondade Bucculatrix ja Coleophora isendid ei söö peale raudrohtude teisi taimi.
Raudrohu ladinakeelne nimetus on tulnud vanakreeka mütoloogia tegelase Achilleuse järgi. "Iliases" kasutasid Achilleuse sõdurid raudrohtu haavade raviks. Eurypylos viis Achilleusele sõnumit, kui sai noolehaava jalga. Patroklos lõikas nooleotsa haavast välja, pesi kogu musta vere ära ja pani haavale purustatud raudrohtu, mis "Iliase" järgi võttis kogu valu ära ja sulges haava. Seda kunsti oli Patroklos õppinud Achilleuselt, kes omakorda oli seda õppinud Cheironilt, kõige targemalt kentaurilt
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Veelkorra:
Raudrohi sisaldab eeterlikke õlisid, mõru- ja parkaineid. Kuivatatud võsutükkidest ja õitest valmistatud tee mõjub seedimist soodustavalt ning lõdvestavalt. Takistab põletike tekkimist, mõjub verejooksu sulgevalt ja aitab menstruatsioonivaevuste puhul. Pikemaajalisel tarbimisel võib põhjustada liigset vere hüübimist.
Värskelt kogutud noored lehed sobivad leivakatteks või salatite, kohupiima ja köögiviljatoitude lisandiks. Rasvased toidud seeduvad raudrohu mõjul kergemini.
Kauaõitseva (õitseb juunist septembrini) ning vastupidava püsikuna sobib harilik raudrohi peenralilleks ja konteinerites kasvatamiseks. Raudrohu sortidest on iluaianduses tuntuimad: 'Red Beauty', 'Summer Pastels', 'Paprika', 'Terracotta'[1].
Kui taimed noorelt tagasi lõigata, siis moodustab tiheda tallamiskindla muru. Selline muru on sobilik kuivadele ja kivistele nõlvadele, kus kõrreliste muru rajamine enamasti ei õnnestu. Taim talub hästi ka tolmu ja linnade mürgiseid gaase[2].
Alkoholitööstuses kasutatakse nastoikade maitsestamiseks[3].
Lõike- ja kuivlilledena kasutatavad õied meelitavad ligi arvukalt putukaid, seal hulgas ka mesilasi. Meeproduktiivsus võib olla kuni 30 kg/ha
7 August 2016 14:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
(ignore the string, this is just sümbol from where home yeard starts and what is behind it, strawberri yeard is behind it, wild one)
7 August 2016 14:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
selle valge nööri veel vahetab välja..
7 August 2016 14:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
no am not bother much about writing perfectness, as what you write about, for who is interested, they will only bear to read it anyway
7 August 2016 14:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
veel on puud...
7 August 2016 14:44
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7 August 2016 14:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
https://www.google.ee/search?q=vatican+pineal+gland&num=100&client=ubuntu&espv=2&tbm=isch&imgil=iKkjKqGOQzlINM%253A%253BokfoPyw5ubTe9M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.bibliotecapleyades.net%25252Fciencia%25252Fciencia_brain65.htm&source=iu&pf=m&fir=iKkjKqGOQzlINM%253A%252CokfoPyw5ubTe9M%252C_&usg=__PpBR7OD2L8K4iV5fx6N1AuLQ3Ew%3D&biw=1366&bih=604&ved=0ahUKEwiAse-onK_OAhWnQpoKHVNYBegQyjcIKQ&ei=PB6nV4CjE6eF6QTTsJXADg#imgrc=iKkjKqGOQzlINM%3A
https://www.google.ee/search?q=vatican+pineal+gland&num=100&client=ubuntu&espv=2&tbm=isch&imgil=iKkjKqGOQzlINM%253A%253BokfoPyw5ubTe9M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.bibliotecapleyades.net%25252Fciencia%25252Fciencia_brain65.htm&source=iu&pf=m&fir=iKkjKqGOQzlINM%253A%252CokfoPyw5ubTe9M%252C_&usg=__PpBR7OD2L8K4iV5fx6N1AuLQ3Ew%3D&biw=1366&bih=604&ved=0ahUKEwiAse-onK_OAhWnQpoKHVNYBegQyjcIKQ&ei=PB6nV4CjE6eF6QTTsJXADg#imgrc=iKkjKqGOQzlINM%3A
https://www.google.ee/search?q=vatican+pineal+gland&num=100&client=ubuntu&espv=2&tbm=isch&imgil=iKkjKqGOQzlINM%253A%253BokfoPyw5ubTe9M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.bibliotecapleyades.net%25252Fciencia%25252Fciencia_brain65.htm&source=iu&pf=m&fir=iKkjKqGOQzlINM%253A%252CokfoPyw5ubTe9M%252C_&usg=__PpBR7OD2L8K4iV5fx6N1AuLQ3Ew%3D&biw=1366&bih=604&ved=0ahUKEwiAse-onK_OAhWnQpoKHVNYBegQyjcIKQ&ei=PB6nV4CjE6eF6QTTsJXADg#imgrc=iKkjKqGOQzlINM%3A
7 August 2016 14:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
mäletan, telesaates, ükskord kui küsiti seda, Coats_of_arms_of_the_Holy_See_and_Vatican_City
Siis me seda suvalt ei ütelnud ära, ja tetrist, sest muu fann oli isegi olulisem
Siis me seda suvalt ei ütelnud ära, ja tetrist, sest muu fann oli isegi olulisem
7 August 2016 14:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
järgmine samm oleks elementaarselt juba päris puidust laud ja pind, kuid enne tuleb odava minimalistliku maerialiga katsetada, millised detailid tegelikult vaja on ja mis on koormaks, mis on minimaalne ja ilus, kui selgroog samaks jätta, põhimõte, et kontor ka kohmakas ei muutuks.
Ja et kui oma asjadega lahkud, jääb maha ilus ase, kuhu keegi teine saab sisse tulla, või sisse tulles rahul olla, kui ka tühi, see vaja mõelda alati, siis pole ajutistes kohtades kinni, ega maises kui vaja veel paremaid muid kohti vahepeal tajumas olla
Ja et kui oma asjadega lahkud, jääb maha ilus ase, kuhu keegi teine saab sisse tulla, või sisse tulles rahul olla, kui ka tühi, see vaja mõelda alati, siis pole ajutistes kohtades kinni, ega maises kui vaja veel paremaid muid kohti vahepeal tajumas olla
7 August 2016 14:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
the last 2 seconds You know...
7 August 2016 14:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
one place
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rCQJmVaQpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rCQJmVaQpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rCQJmVaQpg
7 August 2016 14:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ema kootud
7 August 2016 14:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
on
7 August 2016 14:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
sedasi see töö käib, poolenisti selles, poolenisti teises aparaadis, kuid võid istuda kuidas soovid ikkagi.. ja kanda mida meeldib, nagu enamsutel töödel oleks mõistlik, kui inimestel mõistlik riide ja moe tunnetus oleks
7 August 2016 14:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kapsapea :p
7 August 2016 14:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mälupulkadel muidugi on, flash salvestusel areng olnud tubli ja soodne
7 August 2016 14:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ainuke asi mis mul endal kunagi palju aastatid tagasi ostetud on seal, see vana 2TB ketas.
Millegi pärast ketta mahud pole suurt edasi arenenud veel, ega hinnad paranenud
Millegi pärast ketta mahud pole suurt edasi arenenud veel, ega hinnad paranenud
7 August 2016 14:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
sinu ümber loo alati käepäraste vahenditega niii palju seda mis Su maailma toetab kui saad, kuid ära sellele veel ainiti keskendu, paleede jms ehitamisele, muidu saad ühe otsa ideaalselt valmis aga teine osa miks seda tegema hakkasid jääb venima
7 August 2016 14:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
aa üks küünal on sümbolist puudu.. et midagi peab ikka laula olema mis sul sind ja su elumõtet ja suuremat mid tegelt lauataga teed, meelde tuletaks, lisaks elementaarsele meeldetueletusele nagu pühakirjad ja märkmik,
värvid praegu meeldetuletamaks india royalit ja punasesinisega seotud naiselike naisi ja nendega seotud maailmasi
värvid praegu meeldetuletamaks india royalit ja punasesinisega seotud naiselike naisi ja nendega seotud maailmasi
7 August 2016 14:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
muidugi vastavalt võimalustele siis arendada paremaks, kuid enne oli lihtsalt tühi põrand prahi ja vana voodi juppidega, paari odava liigutusega, saab aga selle hädapäraseks teha, sinnamaani, kuni järgmine aste käes, enne ka üleliia ise pole sellele ilutsemisele ja nipetsemisele vaja rõhku üksi panna
7 August 2016 14:07
Margus Meigo commented on Maurizio Antonio de Pascalis's photo.
How does it sound spiritually in English?
7 August 2016 12:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
for different job different office
7 August 2016 06:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
you can ask about anything in there--- or related and am not get payd yet..and am not jet payd to anyone, and no one is even demanding , alll feel good. this is just basic cosept what you can do wit no money, and just with few friends, (who also do not have money reall, and for sure not leftower..). Now, can you imagine what we would do With a money..
7 August 2016 06:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
wau, ja kui leiad mid saa kes ka tühja lindistas :)
7 August 2016 06:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eks seal üks saksa-eesti-vanavenemaa ristsugutis tule ameerika sugemetega
7 August 2016 05:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
:D
7 August 2016 05:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
endiselt ootavad nõud.. 2559041 kadakatee 88, kui mind kodus ole siis anna teada, kuid ikka asjalikuks asjaks vii.. muidu matan maha, tuleviku tarkadele, asula kindlaksmääramiseks
7 August 2016 05:55
Margus Meigo replied to Ivar Karm's comment.
aga ma päris niisama nende peksmise tarbes ka neid koike jagada ei soovi... et äkki ikka praktilisem..vana ajalooga asjad.. mine tea mis ornad tunded sees
7 August 2016 05:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i am like Crindz... ks joulud kotti pani,aint ma panen Su sünni
7 August 2016 05:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
need 4-5 pilti mis on oiged, keskendu nendele
7 August 2016 05:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
eelkõige oleks meeldiv need kellele oma kontakti eraldi andnud olen,
või samalaadsed, paranduse mõttelised
või samalaadsed, paranduse mõttelised
7 August 2016 05:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so the phone got the colors alright, but SOME of the functions lack so all good is near useless comapred to long trm if compare, but can be fixed
7 August 2016 04:53
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Müstiku Päevik
Müstilise Elu sünna on täna7 August 2016 04:39
Margus Meigo commented on Skiso Freenik's post.
Kui leksnetti kuulaks.. misseal nii hullu on.. et mida nad promovad seal ?
6 August 2016 17:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And for thesewho ask "WHy" or how
http://www.howtogeek.com/183766/why-microsoft-makes-5-to-15-from-every-android-device-sold/
How the Licensing Agreements Work
Microsoft has never officially revealed the details of their licensing agreements with Android device manufacturers. We’re piecing together all the information here from multiple sources.
We do know that Microsoft tells Android device manufacturers that Android infringes on their patents. To make things right, the device manufacturer needs to cut Microsoft in on the devices it sells. If the device manufacturer won’t enter into a patent licensing agreement, Microsoft will likely sue them.
While Microsoft hasn’t given us all the information we need on these licensing agreements, their corporate lawyers did release an interesting blog post about this subject back in 2011. They explain Microsoft’s philosophy when it comes to negotiating patent agreements with Android device manufacturers:
“Amidst continuing clamor about uncertainty and litigation relating to smartphone patents, we’re putting in place a series of agreements that are reasonable and fair to both sides. Our agreements ensure respect and reasonable compensation for Microsoft’s inventions and patent portfolio. Equally important, they enable licensees to make use of our patented innovations on a long-term and stable basis.”
In 2012, Microsoft announced that 70% of Android devices sold were now covered by their patent licensing agreements.
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How Much Are the Royalties?
Microsoft and Android device manufacturers haven’t officially released any information on how much these patent royalty fees cost. Manufacturers are likely prohibited from releasing these details as part of the agreements. However, according to a Citi analyst, HTC is paying Microsoft $5 per Android device sold. The same analyst revealed that Microsoft was suing device manufacturers for $7.50 to $12.50 per Android device sold.
In 2011, a story in the South Korean Maeil Business Newspaper indicated that Microsoft was trying to get $15 per Android device sold from Samsung, while Samsung was trying to argue them down to $10.
The $2 billion per year figure an analyst came up with estimates that Microsoft is getting $5 per Android device sold. If they’re getting more on average, they may be receiving more than $2 billion per year from Android device sales. And, if Android device sales continue to increase, they could be making many more billions of dollars a year soon.
Wait, Why Are Device Manufacturers Paying Microsoft?
If you’re someone who’s not versed in patent law, the question you’ll be asking at this point is why? Why exactly does Microsoft deserve to pocket so much money from each Android device sold? More specifically, what Microsoft patents does Android infringe on? We don’t know for sure.
In reality, Microsoft has never had to defend their Android patents in court. Rather than risk an expensive court battle with Microsoft, Android manufacturers just pay Microsoft for a license so they can get on with business. It’s generally cheaper to pay off “patent trolls” than to fight them in court, and this is even more true for a company with cash reserves as big as Microsoft’s.
Microsoft holds a variety of software patents, including patents essential to using the standard FAT file system SD cards are formatted as by default.
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While we don’t know all the patents in question here, we do know some in particular. One particular patent in question is often referred to as the “FAT patent.” In a nutshell, Microsoft’s File Allocation Table (FAT) file system, which goes back to MS-DOS, supports long and short file names. There are longer names like “MyDocument.doc” and legacy eight-character DOS file names like “MYDOC~1.DOC”. Microsoft’s patent is on a “common name space for short file names.” To implement FAT support — so they can read standard SD cards supported as FAT32 for example — devices need to support that FAT file system and this implementation detail. The European version of this patent was recently ruled invalid by a German court.
Microsoft has been using this patent against Linux devices since 2003. In 2009, they sued TomTom for violating two of their patents on the FAT file system. TomTom used the Linux kernel in their GPS devices, and Microsoft argued that the FAT support in the Linux kernel infringed their patents. Rather than going to court, TomTom settled and paid Microsoft patent royalties. Microsoft has always argued that Linux infringed their patents, so it’s no surprise they argue Android — built on Linux — does too.
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One company that did try to fight back against Microsoft was Barnes & Noble. Microsoft argued that the Nook — an Android-based eReader — infringed their patents and that Barnes & Noble should pay up. Things were reportedly looking good for Barnes & Noble in court, but Microsoft settled with them in 2012, with Microsoft investing $300 million in a Barnes & Noble subsidiary and granting them patent rights. Microsoft’s patents lived to fight another day.
http://www.howtogeek.com/183766/why-microsoft-makes-5-to-15-from-every-android-device-sold/
How the Licensing Agreements Work
Microsoft has never officially revealed the details of their licensing agreements with Android device manufacturers. We’re piecing together all the information here from multiple sources.
We do know that Microsoft tells Android device manufacturers that Android infringes on their patents. To make things right, the device manufacturer needs to cut Microsoft in on the devices it sells. If the device manufacturer won’t enter into a patent licensing agreement, Microsoft will likely sue them.
While Microsoft hasn’t given us all the information we need on these licensing agreements, their corporate lawyers did release an interesting blog post about this subject back in 2011. They explain Microsoft’s philosophy when it comes to negotiating patent agreements with Android device manufacturers:
“Amidst continuing clamor about uncertainty and litigation relating to smartphone patents, we’re putting in place a series of agreements that are reasonable and fair to both sides. Our agreements ensure respect and reasonable compensation for Microsoft’s inventions and patent portfolio. Equally important, they enable licensees to make use of our patented innovations on a long-term and stable basis.”
In 2012, Microsoft announced that 70% of Android devices sold were now covered by their patent licensing agreements.
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How Much Are the Royalties?
Microsoft and Android device manufacturers haven’t officially released any information on how much these patent royalty fees cost. Manufacturers are likely prohibited from releasing these details as part of the agreements. However, according to a Citi analyst, HTC is paying Microsoft $5 per Android device sold. The same analyst revealed that Microsoft was suing device manufacturers for $7.50 to $12.50 per Android device sold.
In 2011, a story in the South Korean Maeil Business Newspaper indicated that Microsoft was trying to get $15 per Android device sold from Samsung, while Samsung was trying to argue them down to $10.
The $2 billion per year figure an analyst came up with estimates that Microsoft is getting $5 per Android device sold. If they’re getting more on average, they may be receiving more than $2 billion per year from Android device sales. And, if Android device sales continue to increase, they could be making many more billions of dollars a year soon.
Wait, Why Are Device Manufacturers Paying Microsoft?
If you’re someone who’s not versed in patent law, the question you’ll be asking at this point is why? Why exactly does Microsoft deserve to pocket so much money from each Android device sold? More specifically, what Microsoft patents does Android infringe on? We don’t know for sure.
In reality, Microsoft has never had to defend their Android patents in court. Rather than risk an expensive court battle with Microsoft, Android manufacturers just pay Microsoft for a license so they can get on with business. It’s generally cheaper to pay off “patent trolls” than to fight them in court, and this is even more true for a company with cash reserves as big as Microsoft’s.
Microsoft holds a variety of software patents, including patents essential to using the standard FAT file system SD cards are formatted as by default.
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While we don’t know all the patents in question here, we do know some in particular. One particular patent in question is often referred to as the “FAT patent.” In a nutshell, Microsoft’s File Allocation Table (FAT) file system, which goes back to MS-DOS, supports long and short file names. There are longer names like “MyDocument.doc” and legacy eight-character DOS file names like “MYDOC~1.DOC”. Microsoft’s patent is on a “common name space for short file names.” To implement FAT support — so they can read standard SD cards supported as FAT32 for example — devices need to support that FAT file system and this implementation detail. The European version of this patent was recently ruled invalid by a German court.
Microsoft has been using this patent against Linux devices since 2003. In 2009, they sued TomTom for violating two of their patents on the FAT file system. TomTom used the Linux kernel in their GPS devices, and Microsoft argued that the FAT support in the Linux kernel infringed their patents. Rather than going to court, TomTom settled and paid Microsoft patent royalties. Microsoft has always argued that Linux infringed their patents, so it’s no surprise they argue Android — built on Linux — does too.
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One company that did try to fight back against Microsoft was Barnes & Noble. Microsoft argued that the Nook — an Android-based eReader — infringed their patents and that Barnes & Noble should pay up. Things were reportedly looking good for Barnes & Noble in court, but Microsoft settled with them in 2012, with Microsoft investing $300 million in a Barnes & Noble subsidiary and granting them patent rights. Microsoft’s patents lived to fight another day.
http://www.howtogeek.com/183766/why-microsoft-makes-5-to-15-from-every-android-device-sold/
6 August 2016 17:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And fro mother deal frm china..
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-microsoft-xiaomi-idUSKCN0YN2VM
"Software maker Microsoft Corp (MSFT.O) is selling about 1,500 of its patents to Chinese device maker Xiaomi [XTC.UL], a rare departure for the U.S. company and part of what the two companies say is the start of a long-term partnership.
The deal, announced on Wednesday, also includes a patent cross-licensing arrangement and a commitment by Xiaomi to install copies of Microsoft software, including Office and Skype, on its phones and tablets.
Both companies declined to discuss financial terms of the deal.
"This is a very big collaboration agreement between the two companies," Wang Xiang, senior vice president at Xiaomi, said by telephone ahead of the deal.
Analysts said Xiaomi's ambitions to be a major player outside China were hampered by weak patent protection and a fear of a prolonged legal battle.
"This deal might just give them enough of a patent trove to move to Western markets," said Sameer Singh, a UK-based analyst. "Their position in China has been under constant attack from even lower-end Android vendors, so moving overseas is now a necessity."
Shipments of Xiaomi phones fell 9 percent year-on-year in China in the first quarter, according to Strategy Analytics, and its market share dipped to 12 percent from 13 percent, squeezed not only by Huawei [HWT.UL] and Samsung Electronics (005930.KS) but also smaller contenders including Oppo and Vivo.
Wang said the acquisition of Microsoft patents, which included voice communications, multimedia and cloud computing, on top of some 3,700 patents the Chinese company filed last year, were "an important step forwards to support our expansion internationally."
Xiaomi launched its first U.S. device earlier this month, a TV set-top box it developed in cooperation with Alphabet Inc's (GOOGL.O) Google, which owns the Android operating system it and most Xiaomi devices run on. Xiaomi has also launched a tablet which runs a version of Microsoft's Windows operating system.
Jonathan Tinter, corporate vice president at Microsoft, said the company was keen to tap into Xiaomi's young, affluent and educated users by having its products pre-installed on their devices. He declined to go into detail about the patent deals, but said the overall deal was something "we do only with a few strategic partners."
Microsoft has cut licensing deals with many Android device makers over the years, but has had less luck with Chinese manufacturers.
Florian Mueller, a patents expert who consulted for Microsoft in the past, said it was rare for Microsoft to actually sell its patents, adding "it's possible Microsoft found it easier to impose its Android patent tax on Xiaomi as part of a broader deal that also involved a transfer of patents." "
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-microsoft-xiaomi-idUSKCN0YN2VM
"Software maker Microsoft Corp (MSFT.O) is selling about 1,500 of its patents to Chinese device maker Xiaomi [XTC.UL], a rare departure for the U.S. company and part of what the two companies say is the start of a long-term partnership.
The deal, announced on Wednesday, also includes a patent cross-licensing arrangement and a commitment by Xiaomi to install copies of Microsoft software, including Office and Skype, on its phones and tablets.
Both companies declined to discuss financial terms of the deal.
"This is a very big collaboration agreement between the two companies," Wang Xiang, senior vice president at Xiaomi, said by telephone ahead of the deal.
Analysts said Xiaomi's ambitions to be a major player outside China were hampered by weak patent protection and a fear of a prolonged legal battle.
"This deal might just give them enough of a patent trove to move to Western markets," said Sameer Singh, a UK-based analyst. "Their position in China has been under constant attack from even lower-end Android vendors, so moving overseas is now a necessity."
Shipments of Xiaomi phones fell 9 percent year-on-year in China in the first quarter, according to Strategy Analytics, and its market share dipped to 12 percent from 13 percent, squeezed not only by Huawei [HWT.UL] and Samsung Electronics (005930.KS) but also smaller contenders including Oppo and Vivo.
Wang said the acquisition of Microsoft patents, which included voice communications, multimedia and cloud computing, on top of some 3,700 patents the Chinese company filed last year, were "an important step forwards to support our expansion internationally."
Xiaomi launched its first U.S. device earlier this month, a TV set-top box it developed in cooperation with Alphabet Inc's (GOOGL.O) Google, which owns the Android operating system it and most Xiaomi devices run on. Xiaomi has also launched a tablet which runs a version of Microsoft's Windows operating system.
Jonathan Tinter, corporate vice president at Microsoft, said the company was keen to tap into Xiaomi's young, affluent and educated users by having its products pre-installed on their devices. He declined to go into detail about the patent deals, but said the overall deal was something "we do only with a few strategic partners."
Microsoft has cut licensing deals with many Android device makers over the years, but has had less luck with Chinese manufacturers.
Florian Mueller, a patents expert who consulted for Microsoft in the past, said it was rare for Microsoft to actually sell its patents, adding "it's possible Microsoft found it easier to impose its Android patent tax on Xiaomi as part of a broader deal that also involved a transfer of patents." "
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-microsoft-xiaomi-idUSKCN0YN2VM
6 August 2016 17:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
from China gov: http://images.mofcom.gov.cn/pep/201404/20140408143159274.docx
(bud did the Microsoft say anyway ,that all their licenses are public ?)
http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/16/5813710/microsoft-android-patents-list
"The list includes 73 standard-essential patents, but there’s also 127 patents that Microsoft claims are implemented in Android. Some on the list, as Ars Technica notes, include patents that Microsoft acquired as part of the Rockstar Consortium to bid on patents from Nortel. All 14 patents used by Microsoft to file a lawsuit against Barnes & Noble are also included. It’s a significant list, and one that Microsoft will have wanted to avoid making public. The software maker has faced criticism over its Android licensing practices, especially from Barnes & Noble, which asked the Justice Department for an antitrust investigation into Microsoft’s attempts to "kill off" Android devices from smaller players with license fees and lawsuits. Microsoft is estimated to earn as much as $1 billion a year from Android-related licensing revenue."
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Far away related
Foxconn has become Microsoft's biggest single patent licensee. While that might not be surprising—the Taiwanese manufacturer produces an amazing 40 percent of the world's consumer electronic devices—the fact that the patents are over Android might be.
In fact, Microsoft has long insisted that anybody making an Android device needs to license its patents. Somehow, it's generally done a rather good job of convincing companies to play ball: LG, HTC, and Samsung all stump up, for instance.
Now, Foxconn has crumbled and will be sending rather a lot of cash Microsoft's way, reports Ars Technica. Finer details are scant, but it is clear that the Taiwanese company will pay license fees for all of the Android and Chrome OS devices it makes—including smartphones, tablets, and televisions.
Consider that Foxconn makes Amazon's Kindles and Acer's phones—as well as all manner of other stuff without its name anywhere to be seen—and Microsoft has a nice new revenue stream
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/04/microsoft-scores-biggest-patent-licensee-yet-chinas-foxconn/
(bud did the Microsoft say anyway ,that all their licenses are public ?)
http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/16/5813710/microsoft-android-patents-list
"The list includes 73 standard-essential patents, but there’s also 127 patents that Microsoft claims are implemented in Android. Some on the list, as Ars Technica notes, include patents that Microsoft acquired as part of the Rockstar Consortium to bid on patents from Nortel. All 14 patents used by Microsoft to file a lawsuit against Barnes & Noble are also included. It’s a significant list, and one that Microsoft will have wanted to avoid making public. The software maker has faced criticism over its Android licensing practices, especially from Barnes & Noble, which asked the Justice Department for an antitrust investigation into Microsoft’s attempts to "kill off" Android devices from smaller players with license fees and lawsuits. Microsoft is estimated to earn as much as $1 billion a year from Android-related licensing revenue."
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Far away related
Foxconn has become Microsoft's biggest single patent licensee. While that might not be surprising—the Taiwanese manufacturer produces an amazing 40 percent of the world's consumer electronic devices—the fact that the patents are over Android might be.
In fact, Microsoft has long insisted that anybody making an Android device needs to license its patents. Somehow, it's generally done a rather good job of convincing companies to play ball: LG, HTC, and Samsung all stump up, for instance.
Now, Foxconn has crumbled and will be sending rather a lot of cash Microsoft's way, reports Ars Technica. Finer details are scant, but it is clear that the Taiwanese company will pay license fees for all of the Android and Chrome OS devices it makes—including smartphones, tablets, and televisions.
Consider that Foxconn makes Amazon's Kindles and Acer's phones—as well as all manner of other stuff without its name anywhere to be seen—and Microsoft has a nice new revenue stream
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/04/microsoft-scores-biggest-patent-licensee-yet-chinas-foxconn/
6 August 2016 17:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Once more.. and China
"Microsoft has long licensed a glut of patents to Android hardware makers for them to avoid litigation—and how the Chinese government has made public exactly what they are.
In total, China's Ministry of Commerce (MOFCOM) has revealed a list of more than 300 patents that Microsoft requires OEMs to license—at some considerable profit—in order that they avoid litigation over Android and Chrome OS. In fact, 127 of those are actually implemented in Android. The patents—from "Operating Touch Screen Interfaces" to "TV Program Database"—include some acquired as part of the Rockstar Consortium, and all the patents used by Microsoft to file a lawsuit against Barnes & Noble in the past. The list—which you can read here—was kept secret for a long time. The leaked version formed part of the application by Microsoft to buy Nokia, which had to be approved in China and elsewhere.
http://gizmodo.com/the-secret-android-patents-that-microsoft-forces-oems-t-1591338496
"Microsoft has long licensed a glut of patents to Android hardware makers for them to avoid litigation—and how the Chinese government has made public exactly what they are.
In total, China's Ministry of Commerce (MOFCOM) has revealed a list of more than 300 patents that Microsoft requires OEMs to license—at some considerable profit—in order that they avoid litigation over Android and Chrome OS. In fact, 127 of those are actually implemented in Android. The patents—from "Operating Touch Screen Interfaces" to "TV Program Database"—include some acquired as part of the Rockstar Consortium, and all the patents used by Microsoft to file a lawsuit against Barnes & Noble in the past. The list—which you can read here—was kept secret for a long time. The leaked version formed part of the application by Microsoft to buy Nokia, which had to be approved in China and elsewhere.
http://gizmodo.com/the-secret-android-patents-that-microsoft-forces-oems-t-1591338496
http://gizmodo.com/the-secret-android-patents-that-microsoft-forces-oems-t-1591338496
6 August 2016 17:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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"How To Thwart Broad Microsoft Patent App Using Microsoft's Own Prior Art In Just 15 Minutes
from the oh,-microsoft...-can't-you-try-to-be-a-little-BIGGER-than-everyone-else? dept
If you work in the software industry, patents are obviously a huge issue. Nowhere is the abuse of patents more common than in this field, where broadly written claims covering obvious "methods" are the rule, rather than the exception.
Fortunately, some new tools have been crafted to allow developers to head off future trolling efforts. One of these, Ask Patents, was set up by StackExchange and Google in conjunction with the USPTO. Joel Spolsky, cofounder and CEO, recently had a reason to test drive Ask Patents, resulting in the rejection of a terrible software patent application.
There are a lot of people complaining about lousy software patents these days. I say, stop complaining, and start killing them. It took me about fifteen minutes to stop a crappy Microsoft patent from being approved. Got fifteen minutes? You can do it too.
First, Spolsky gives the uninitiated a little background on software patents.
Software developers don’t actually invent very much. The number of actually novel, non-obvious inventions in the software industry that maybe, in some universe, deserve a government-granted monopoly is, perhaps, two.
The other 40,000-odd software patents issued every year are mostly garbage that any working programmer could “invent” three times before breakfast. Most issued software patents aren’t “inventions” as most people understand that word. They’re just things that any first-year student learning Java should be able to do as a homework assignment in two hours.
Taking a look at the history of patent trolls bears this out. Eolas, a notorious troll, which recently had its patents invalidated, has been extracting settlements from dozens of companies with its "Web interactivity" patents for nearly a decade. Others have followed in its wake, using patents such as "System for disseminating media content representing episodes in a serialized sequence" (to attack podcasters) and "online shopping carts" (to attack pretty much everyone) to generate revenue via lawsuits and settlements, all without having to actually create a competing product.
So, how do these patents make it past examiners without being discarded as obvious or running into tons of prior art?
The first technique is to try to make the language of the patent as confusing and obfuscated as possible. That actually makes it harder for a patent examiner to identify prior art or evaluate if the invention is obvious...
The second technique to getting bad software patents issued is to use a thesaurus. Often, software patent applicants make up new terms to describe things with perfectly good, existing names... Since patent examiners rely so much on keyword searches, when you submit your application, if you can change some of the keywords in your patent to be different than the words used everywhere else, you might get your patent through even when there’s blatant prior art, because by using weird, made-up words for things, you’ve made that prior art harder to find.
Spolsky details even more methods deployed by trolls to push through broad patents.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130723/09543223903/joel-spolsky-stackexchange-thwarts-broad-microsoft-patent-app-using-microsofts-own-prior-art.shtml
He also notes that these examiner-thwarting efforts serve two purposes: sliding the application through and clouding the patent's coverage in order to increase the possibility that it will be infringed. Trolls don't want other creators not to infringe on their patents -- they want as much infringement as possible in order to generate settlements, hence the vague, ill-defined terminology.
Armed with this knowledge, Spolsky went in search of a patent app to invalidate.
At first I honestly thought it was going to be hard. Would we even be able to find vulnerable applications? The funny thing is that when I looked at a bunch of software patent applications at random I came to realize that they were all bad, which makes our job much easier.
Take patent application US 20130063492 A1, submitted by Microsoft. An Ask Patent user submitted this call for prior art on March 26th.
From the patent's summary:
[T]echniques for generating and displaying a presentation of elements in view of the pixel density of the display component, using a scale factor set of scale factors that specify a pixel density range and a scale factor value (e.g., 120%) to be applied to the elements of the presentation.
Spolsky looked at this patent and noticed one phrase being used repeatedly: pixel density. Or as anyone not applying for a dubious patent would call it: resolution.
Without reading too deeply, I realized that this patent is basically trying to say “Sometimes you have a picture that you want to scale to different resolutions. When this happens, you might want to have multiple versions of the image available at different resolutions, so you can pick the one that’s closest and scale that.”
So, Spolsky searched for prior art aimed at the actual purpose of the patent: providing images at multiple resolutions. And he found it -- right inside something else created by none other than Microsoft itself.
So I spent about a minute with Google and eventually (bing!) found this interesting document entitled Writing DPI-Aware Win32 Applications [PDF] written by Ryan Haveson and Ken Sykes at, what a coincidence, Microsoft.
And it was written in 2008, while Microsoft’s new patent application was trying to claim that this “invention” was “invented” in 2011. Boom. Prior art found, and deployed.
Total time elapsed, maybe 10 minutes.
A couple of months down the road, Spolsky (or rather, his patent expert) was informed that the application (including all 20 claims) had been rejected. It's a non-final rejection and Microsoft is appealing, but Spolsky's experience still demonstrates the potential power tools like these have to thwart bad patents, or at the very least, force the applicants to refine their definitions and descriptions.
"How To Thwart Broad Microsoft Patent App Using Microsoft's Own Prior Art In Just 15 Minutes
from the oh,-microsoft...-can't-you-try-to-be-a-little-BIGGER-than-everyone-else? dept
If you work in the software industry, patents are obviously a huge issue. Nowhere is the abuse of patents more common than in this field, where broadly written claims covering obvious "methods" are the rule, rather than the exception.
Fortunately, some new tools have been crafted to allow developers to head off future trolling efforts. One of these, Ask Patents, was set up by StackExchange and Google in conjunction with the USPTO. Joel Spolsky, cofounder and CEO, recently had a reason to test drive Ask Patents, resulting in the rejection of a terrible software patent application.
There are a lot of people complaining about lousy software patents these days. I say, stop complaining, and start killing them. It took me about fifteen minutes to stop a crappy Microsoft patent from being approved. Got fifteen minutes? You can do it too.
First, Spolsky gives the uninitiated a little background on software patents.
Software developers don’t actually invent very much. The number of actually novel, non-obvious inventions in the software industry that maybe, in some universe, deserve a government-granted monopoly is, perhaps, two.
The other 40,000-odd software patents issued every year are mostly garbage that any working programmer could “invent” three times before breakfast. Most issued software patents aren’t “inventions” as most people understand that word. They’re just things that any first-year student learning Java should be able to do as a homework assignment in two hours.
Taking a look at the history of patent trolls bears this out. Eolas, a notorious troll, which recently had its patents invalidated, has been extracting settlements from dozens of companies with its "Web interactivity" patents for nearly a decade. Others have followed in its wake, using patents such as "System for disseminating media content representing episodes in a serialized sequence" (to attack podcasters) and "online shopping carts" (to attack pretty much everyone) to generate revenue via lawsuits and settlements, all without having to actually create a competing product.
So, how do these patents make it past examiners without being discarded as obvious or running into tons of prior art?
The first technique is to try to make the language of the patent as confusing and obfuscated as possible. That actually makes it harder for a patent examiner to identify prior art or evaluate if the invention is obvious...
The second technique to getting bad software patents issued is to use a thesaurus. Often, software patent applicants make up new terms to describe things with perfectly good, existing names... Since patent examiners rely so much on keyword searches, when you submit your application, if you can change some of the keywords in your patent to be different than the words used everywhere else, you might get your patent through even when there’s blatant prior art, because by using weird, made-up words for things, you’ve made that prior art harder to find.
Spolsky details even more methods deployed by trolls to push through broad patents.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130723/09543223903/joel-spolsky-stackexchange-thwarts-broad-microsoft-patent-app-using-microsofts-own-prior-art.shtml
He also notes that these examiner-thwarting efforts serve two purposes: sliding the application through and clouding the patent's coverage in order to increase the possibility that it will be infringed. Trolls don't want other creators not to infringe on their patents -- they want as much infringement as possible in order to generate settlements, hence the vague, ill-defined terminology.
Armed with this knowledge, Spolsky went in search of a patent app to invalidate.
At first I honestly thought it was going to be hard. Would we even be able to find vulnerable applications? The funny thing is that when I looked at a bunch of software patent applications at random I came to realize that they were all bad, which makes our job much easier.
Take patent application US 20130063492 A1, submitted by Microsoft. An Ask Patent user submitted this call for prior art on March 26th.
From the patent's summary:
[T]echniques for generating and displaying a presentation of elements in view of the pixel density of the display component, using a scale factor set of scale factors that specify a pixel density range and a scale factor value (e.g., 120%) to be applied to the elements of the presentation.
Spolsky looked at this patent and noticed one phrase being used repeatedly: pixel density. Or as anyone not applying for a dubious patent would call it: resolution.
Without reading too deeply, I realized that this patent is basically trying to say “Sometimes you have a picture that you want to scale to different resolutions. When this happens, you might want to have multiple versions of the image available at different resolutions, so you can pick the one that’s closest and scale that.”
So, Spolsky searched for prior art aimed at the actual purpose of the patent: providing images at multiple resolutions. And he found it -- right inside something else created by none other than Microsoft itself.
So I spent about a minute with Google and eventually (bing!) found this interesting document entitled Writing DPI-Aware Win32 Applications [PDF] written by Ryan Haveson and Ken Sykes at, what a coincidence, Microsoft.
And it was written in 2008, while Microsoft’s new patent application was trying to claim that this “invention” was “invented” in 2011. Boom. Prior art found, and deployed.
Total time elapsed, maybe 10 minutes.
A couple of months down the road, Spolsky (or rather, his patent expert) was informed that the application (including all 20 claims) had been rejected. It's a non-final rejection and Microsoft is appealing, but Spolsky's experience still demonstrates the potential power tools like these have to thwart bad patents, or at the very least, force the applicants to refine their definitions and descriptions.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130723/09543223903/joel-spolsky-stackexchange-thwarts-broad-microsoft-patent-app-using-microsofts-own-prior-art.shtml
6 August 2016 16:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
seriously we have to invent robots that tell us what and how much we should eat...
"A Microsoft patent idea sees the future of eating for smart glasses wearers going something like this. You’re about to chow down on a juicy hamburger when a virtual nutrition label pops up that says: “Typically a hamburger of this size may have 800 – 1200 calories.” Ignoring the information, you pick up the greasy burger and take a large bite. As you chew, another floating warning pops up in your vision: “This is your second big meal today — are you sure you want to do that?”
Having your smart glasses scold you for disregarding your personal diet goals may not sound like a lot of fun. But someone at Microsoft thinks an augmented reality app focused on health and nutrition could translate into big business down the line. A Microsoft patent application titled “Wearable Food Nutrition Feedback System” was recently discovered through research provided by legal technology firm ClientSide. The patent application covers the concept of a wearable head-mounted device—basically smart glasses—that can recognize a wide variety of food and display virtual information such as virtual nutrition labels, food allergy warnings floating in midair or even menu recommendations posted by friends on social media.
It’s always worth keeping in mind that a patent application or grant does not mean Microsoft will actually develop such a nutrition-focused product for augmented reality. But Microsoft has been hard at work on unveiling an augmented reality device: the Hololens wearable that can display interactive holograms overlaid in the real world. A food nutrition app seems like a no-brainer for the Hololens or a next-generation version of the smart glasses."
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The Microsoft patent application includes an example of the smart glasses wearer looking at a veal special dish on a restaurant menu. In one case, the wearable device might display an “avoid” allergy warning about the veal dish containing nuts. That assumes the wearable system already has information about the human wearer having specific food allergies.
In a second example, the patent application envisions the wearable device telling the wearer: “You didn’t like the Veal Special last time…” That case assumes the system can store data about specific restaurant dishes a person had tried before and recorded their reactions or ratings for each dish.
A third example involves the wearable device displaying the following: “Marsha was here last week and had the Veal Special and gave it four stars!” In that case the wearable device would presumably pull the friend’s food rating and recommendation from something like an online social media service.
The biggest technical issue for the nutrition label app may come from creating the software capable of recognizing different types of food and deducing the appropriate nutritional information. A piece of fruit such as an apple or a packaged product may not present the greatest challenge for visual recognition algorithms, but a casserole might prove otherwise.
Still, Microsoft seems to have anticipated that problem. Its patent application envisions the wearable device asking for the human wearer’s help in labeling foods that it can’t identify. Many computer algorithms and programs have improved their capability to identify certain images based on that time-honored tactic of learning from human feedback and input. In that sense, it’s likely just a matter of time before a virtual nutrition label app similar to what Microsoft envisions becomes a reality.
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/ guess its good then when it makes people healthier .,
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/lovesick-cyborg/2016/01/31/2136/
"A Microsoft patent idea sees the future of eating for smart glasses wearers going something like this. You’re about to chow down on a juicy hamburger when a virtual nutrition label pops up that says: “Typically a hamburger of this size may have 800 – 1200 calories.” Ignoring the information, you pick up the greasy burger and take a large bite. As you chew, another floating warning pops up in your vision: “This is your second big meal today — are you sure you want to do that?”
Having your smart glasses scold you for disregarding your personal diet goals may not sound like a lot of fun. But someone at Microsoft thinks an augmented reality app focused on health and nutrition could translate into big business down the line. A Microsoft patent application titled “Wearable Food Nutrition Feedback System” was recently discovered through research provided by legal technology firm ClientSide. The patent application covers the concept of a wearable head-mounted device—basically smart glasses—that can recognize a wide variety of food and display virtual information such as virtual nutrition labels, food allergy warnings floating in midair or even menu recommendations posted by friends on social media.
It’s always worth keeping in mind that a patent application or grant does not mean Microsoft will actually develop such a nutrition-focused product for augmented reality. But Microsoft has been hard at work on unveiling an augmented reality device: the Hololens wearable that can display interactive holograms overlaid in the real world. A food nutrition app seems like a no-brainer for the Hololens or a next-generation version of the smart glasses."
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The Microsoft patent application includes an example of the smart glasses wearer looking at a veal special dish on a restaurant menu. In one case, the wearable device might display an “avoid” allergy warning about the veal dish containing nuts. That assumes the wearable system already has information about the human wearer having specific food allergies.
In a second example, the patent application envisions the wearable device telling the wearer: “You didn’t like the Veal Special last time…” That case assumes the system can store data about specific restaurant dishes a person had tried before and recorded their reactions or ratings for each dish.
A third example involves the wearable device displaying the following: “Marsha was here last week and had the Veal Special and gave it four stars!” In that case the wearable device would presumably pull the friend’s food rating and recommendation from something like an online social media service.
The biggest technical issue for the nutrition label app may come from creating the software capable of recognizing different types of food and deducing the appropriate nutritional information. A piece of fruit such as an apple or a packaged product may not present the greatest challenge for visual recognition algorithms, but a casserole might prove otherwise.
Still, Microsoft seems to have anticipated that problem. Its patent application envisions the wearable device asking for the human wearer’s help in labeling foods that it can’t identify. Many computer algorithms and programs have improved their capability to identify certain images based on that time-honored tactic of learning from human feedback and input. In that sense, it’s likely just a matter of time before a virtual nutrition label app similar to what Microsoft envisions becomes a reality.
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/ guess its good then when it makes people healthier .,
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/lovesick-cyborg/2016/01/31/2136/
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/lovesick-cyborg/2016/01/31/2136/
6 August 2016 16:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Okey we already talk about that, back to microsoft few links more.. for suture strings,
"Design patents aren’t like the utility patents that most people think of when they think of patents. Unlike utility patents, which are meant for new and useful inventions, design patents are meant for new, non-functional, ornamental aspects of articles. They have only one claim, little to no written description, and usually a series of images detailing what exactly is being claimed. (A note about design patents: solid lines are used to show what is claimed; broken or dotted lines show the unclaimed “environment related to the design” or define the boundary of the design.)
As Professor Sarah Burstein points out on her fantastic Tumblr, design patents are often issued on a small part of a product, and often for things that seem unoriginal, not ornamental, or just ridiculous"
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/12/stupid-patent-month-microsofts-design-patent-slider
The well-known Apple v. Samsung dispute addressed the issue of whether an infringer should be required to pay all of its profits for infringing a design patent that applies only to a portion of a product. Samsung had asked the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit to reject this reading, but the court disagreed in a May, 2015 opinion.
Samsung has now asked the Supreme Court to weigh in. In its petition for certiorari, Samsung points out the absurd results of this rule. For example, Samsung explains that under the Federal Circuit’s ruling, “profits on an entire car—or even an eighteen-wheel tractor trailer—must be awarded based on an undetachable infringing cup-holder.” In addition, given that many products will include multiple ornamental features that could be covered by design patents, this raises the possibility that a company could get hit for multiple judgments for all its profits.
That sounds pretty crazy to us. But that’s exactly what might happen if Microsoft prevails against Corel. Putting aside whether Microsoft’s design was actually new and not obvious in 2006 (when Microsoft filed its application), whether Microsoft needed the patent incentive in order to come up with this design, and whether it is even desirable to grant a company a government-backed monopoly on a graphical slider (we don't think so, that's why this is a stupid patent), the scope of damages for design patent infringement has the potential to become a powerful tool to shut down legitimate competition based on the mere threat of a lawsuit.
"Design patents aren’t like the utility patents that most people think of when they think of patents. Unlike utility patents, which are meant for new and useful inventions, design patents are meant for new, non-functional, ornamental aspects of articles. They have only one claim, little to no written description, and usually a series of images detailing what exactly is being claimed. (A note about design patents: solid lines are used to show what is claimed; broken or dotted lines show the unclaimed “environment related to the design” or define the boundary of the design.)
As Professor Sarah Burstein points out on her fantastic Tumblr, design patents are often issued on a small part of a product, and often for things that seem unoriginal, not ornamental, or just ridiculous"
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/12/stupid-patent-month-microsofts-design-patent-slider
The well-known Apple v. Samsung dispute addressed the issue of whether an infringer should be required to pay all of its profits for infringing a design patent that applies only to a portion of a product. Samsung had asked the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit to reject this reading, but the court disagreed in a May, 2015 opinion.
Samsung has now asked the Supreme Court to weigh in. In its petition for certiorari, Samsung points out the absurd results of this rule. For example, Samsung explains that under the Federal Circuit’s ruling, “profits on an entire car—or even an eighteen-wheel tractor trailer—must be awarded based on an undetachable infringing cup-holder.” In addition, given that many products will include multiple ornamental features that could be covered by design patents, this raises the possibility that a company could get hit for multiple judgments for all its profits.
That sounds pretty crazy to us. But that’s exactly what might happen if Microsoft prevails against Corel. Putting aside whether Microsoft’s design was actually new and not obvious in 2006 (when Microsoft filed its application), whether Microsoft needed the patent incentive in order to come up with this design, and whether it is even desirable to grant a company a government-backed monopoly on a graphical slider (we don't think so, that's why this is a stupid patent), the scope of damages for design patent infringement has the potential to become a powerful tool to shut down legitimate competition based on the mere threat of a lawsuit.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/12/stupid-patent-month-microsofts-design-patent-slider
6 August 2016 16:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and when we start to talk about google morals..
" Oracle moves for new copyright trial against Google, renews motion for judgment as a matter of law
Despite the fact that Google's incorporation of more than 10,000 lines of Oracle's Java API declaring code into Android does not merely fall short of fair use criteria but is simply the exact opposite of fair use, a San Francisco jury, misguided by Judge William H. Alsup, misinformed by Google's manipulative attorneys and misled by questionable witnesses, found in favor of Google in May.
Thereafter, Judge Alsup, who could hardly have done a worse job handling this case, entered final judgment. At the same time, he wrote a JMOL ruling (denying the parties' pre-verdict motions for judgment as a matter of law) that, instead of actually addressing the substantive issues raised by Oracle, was a public letter to the appeals court of the "please don't overrule me again" kind, demonstrating his fear that the Federal Circuit will once again clarify that the law is what is and not what Judge Alsup, labeled by a lawyer on Twitter as a "sore loser" (in light of the previous appellate decision in Oracle's favor), wanted the jury to think it is.
While it's very obvious that this case will go back to Washington, DC, Oracle has just filed two motions. The first one is a renewed motion for JMOL (this post continues below the document):
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There is no question that Judge Alsup will deny it. His aforementioned open letter made that clear. He's now just going to hide behind the jury since he accomplished his objective: a verdict in Google's favor. But he may just have to go through the motions process now, and Oracle has requested that a hearing be held in August.
The JMOL question is extremely important because it's hard to imagine a "fair use" case where JMOL would be more warranted than here. As I've talked about that on a few occasions and will talk about it some more during the appellate proceedings, I'd now like to focus on Oracle's motion for a new trial since it raises a number of serious issues due to which the "final judgment" can't and most probably won't stand. Here's Oracle's motion (this post continues below the document):
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Here's why this is a big problem: ChromeOS is a desktop/notebook/netbook operating system. That's just another huge market in which it's now competing with Java; more specifically, with Java SE. It also shows that any distinction between mobile Java and Java in general makes no sense in the Android-Java context (when it comes to harm, transformative use etc.). It was a Google-Judge Alsup smokescreen in any event, but the smoke lifted with Google's announcement--at a time when Oracle no longer had any chance to inject this issue into the rigged trial.
Oracle rightfully demands a new trial in order to be able to "present its full case, including this newly discovered and improperly withheld evidence."
The third argument relates to how Judge Alsup improperly limited Oracle's evidence of market harm to the mobile phone and tablet computer markets. Oracle recalls how it filed a supplemental complaint last summer to bring up various other Android business areas such as Android Wear. Judge Alsup, however, sided with Google on a motion in limine and told Oracle that it would have "to sue on those new products in a future trial."
The fourth argument is also about how the judge precluded Oracle's lawyers from making their strongest legitimate case. Google made the "Java was free and open" point more than thirty times in that trial, but the court did not allow Oracle to present an April 2007 email from Stefano Mazzocchi (then an Apache Foundation leader), which stated the following:
"This makes us *already* doing illegal things (in fact, Android using Harmony code is illegal as well)."
Judge Alsup required that key sentence to be redacted because it was, in his incorrect opinion, "too inflammatory and without foundation."
// so this people who handle these cases are technologically on what political view.. as it all maters, what kind of view human has about freedom and technology development, based on that one can see who is more wrong..
http://www.fosspatents.com/2016/07/oracle-moves-for-new-copyright-trial.html
" Oracle moves for new copyright trial against Google, renews motion for judgment as a matter of law
Despite the fact that Google's incorporation of more than 10,000 lines of Oracle's Java API declaring code into Android does not merely fall short of fair use criteria but is simply the exact opposite of fair use, a San Francisco jury, misguided by Judge William H. Alsup, misinformed by Google's manipulative attorneys and misled by questionable witnesses, found in favor of Google in May.
Thereafter, Judge Alsup, who could hardly have done a worse job handling this case, entered final judgment. At the same time, he wrote a JMOL ruling (denying the parties' pre-verdict motions for judgment as a matter of law) that, instead of actually addressing the substantive issues raised by Oracle, was a public letter to the appeals court of the "please don't overrule me again" kind, demonstrating his fear that the Federal Circuit will once again clarify that the law is what is and not what Judge Alsup, labeled by a lawyer on Twitter as a "sore loser" (in light of the previous appellate decision in Oracle's favor), wanted the jury to think it is.
While it's very obvious that this case will go back to Washington, DC, Oracle has just filed two motions. The first one is a renewed motion for JMOL (this post continues below the document):
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There is no question that Judge Alsup will deny it. His aforementioned open letter made that clear. He's now just going to hide behind the jury since he accomplished his objective: a verdict in Google's favor. But he may just have to go through the motions process now, and Oracle has requested that a hearing be held in August.
The JMOL question is extremely important because it's hard to imagine a "fair use" case where JMOL would be more warranted than here. As I've talked about that on a few occasions and will talk about it some more during the appellate proceedings, I'd now like to focus on Oracle's motion for a new trial since it raises a number of serious issues due to which the "final judgment" can't and most probably won't stand. Here's Oracle's motion (this post continues below the document):
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Here's why this is a big problem: ChromeOS is a desktop/notebook/netbook operating system. That's just another huge market in which it's now competing with Java; more specifically, with Java SE. It also shows that any distinction between mobile Java and Java in general makes no sense in the Android-Java context (when it comes to harm, transformative use etc.). It was a Google-Judge Alsup smokescreen in any event, but the smoke lifted with Google's announcement--at a time when Oracle no longer had any chance to inject this issue into the rigged trial.
Oracle rightfully demands a new trial in order to be able to "present its full case, including this newly discovered and improperly withheld evidence."
The third argument relates to how Judge Alsup improperly limited Oracle's evidence of market harm to the mobile phone and tablet computer markets. Oracle recalls how it filed a supplemental complaint last summer to bring up various other Android business areas such as Android Wear. Judge Alsup, however, sided with Google on a motion in limine and told Oracle that it would have "to sue on those new products in a future trial."
The fourth argument is also about how the judge precluded Oracle's lawyers from making their strongest legitimate case. Google made the "Java was free and open" point more than thirty times in that trial, but the court did not allow Oracle to present an April 2007 email from Stefano Mazzocchi (then an Apache Foundation leader), which stated the following:
"This makes us *already* doing illegal things (in fact, Android using Harmony code is illegal as well)."
Judge Alsup required that key sentence to be redacted because it was, in his incorrect opinion, "too inflammatory and without foundation."
// so this people who handle these cases are technologically on what political view.. as it all maters, what kind of view human has about freedom and technology development, based on that one can see who is more wrong..
http://www.fosspatents.com/2016/07/oracle-moves-for-new-copyright-trial.html
http://www.fosspatents.com/2016/07/oracle-moves-for-new-copyright-trial.html
6 August 2016 16:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://fortune.com/2015/10/01/google-microsoft-patent-analysis/
Patent peace between Google and Microsoft is a pretty big deal – here 3 questions people should be asking.
This week brought good news for the tech industry as Google and Microsoft buried the hatchet in their bitter, long-running patent feud. The peace deal, reported on Wednesday, will see the companies drop around 20 lawsuits in the U.S. and Germany, and even collaborate on royalty-free video technology.
This bodes well for Google GOOG 1.38% and Microsoft, since patent litigation is not just frightfully expensive, but can be a major distraction for companies’ executives and engineers. Consumers could also benefit indirectly when the lower legal costs are passed on to them.
It’s unclear, however, how much the peace deal reflects a shift in patent strategy for the companies, and whether it could affect the broader issue of U.S. patent reform. Here are 3 key questions:
How much has Microsoft really changed?
Microsoft MSFT 0.99% is a master of patent skullduggery, and the company has long used a variety of dark arts to attack Google. These have included “privateering,” which entails arming third party shell companies with patents, and sending them out to sue rivals. And Microsoft also poured more money into the giant patent troll Intellectual Ventures last year, even as Apple and other influential tech companies refused to participate. (Meanwhile, Intellectual Ventures appears to be up to its old tricks, as a new report suggests it is behind a new patent troll campaign to sue any company that offers a USB hub.)
As such, it’s unclear if the Google deal only covers direct litigation, or if it will also require Microsoft to call off its proxy attacks by privateers and trolls. Microsoft declined to provide clarification, and simply referred to yesterday’s joint statement: “Microsoft and Google are pleased to announce an agreement on patent issues. As part of the agreement, the companies will dismiss all pending patent infringement litigation between them, including cases related to Motorola Mobility. Separately, Google and Microsoft have agreed to collaborate on certain patent matters and anticipate working together in other areas in the future to benefit our customers.”
Optimists may see this announcement as part of a larger cultural change taking place under CEO Satya Nadella’s Microsoft, which says it wants to be “Silicon Valley’s best friend.” If so, this would presumably entail an end to sharp-elbowed patent stunts. Skeptics, however, can point to Microsoft’s track record on patents and ask if the company can really change its ways.
Will Google still play nice with its big patent pile?
Google has been a longtime advocate for reforming the dysfunctional U.S. patent system but, in recent years, the company has also been obtaining thousands of patents on its own. It was among the top 10 patent recipients of 2014 (not far behind Microsoft), and this year it created a patent purchase program to obtain even more of them from third parties. All this raises the question of whether Google will be able to resist demanding other firms pay up for those patents. This is the typical course of many mature companies which, once their most innovative days are over, turn to milking their patent portfolio for licensing revenue.
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//So Fia
For now, it seems unlikely that Google will go down the road of IBM IBM 1.21% and others by seeking to turn their patents into a cash cow. Instead, the company appears to be playing a different game. Its recent purchase of second-hand patents, along with a program to hand out patents to startups, suggests Google is carrying out a sophisticated strategy to change the underlying value proposition of patents in the first place. As I’ve explained before, this strategy appears to based on creating a broad-based defensive network of companies that pledge not to sue each other. But as Google gets older, and transforms itself into a collection of subsidiaries under Alphabet, the day may come when it uses its patents on offense.
Patent peace between Google and Microsoft is a pretty big deal – here 3 questions people should be asking.
This week brought good news for the tech industry as Google and Microsoft buried the hatchet in their bitter, long-running patent feud. The peace deal, reported on Wednesday, will see the companies drop around 20 lawsuits in the U.S. and Germany, and even collaborate on royalty-free video technology.
This bodes well for Google GOOG 1.38% and Microsoft, since patent litigation is not just frightfully expensive, but can be a major distraction for companies’ executives and engineers. Consumers could also benefit indirectly when the lower legal costs are passed on to them.
It’s unclear, however, how much the peace deal reflects a shift in patent strategy for the companies, and whether it could affect the broader issue of U.S. patent reform. Here are 3 key questions:
How much has Microsoft really changed?
Microsoft MSFT 0.99% is a master of patent skullduggery, and the company has long used a variety of dark arts to attack Google. These have included “privateering,” which entails arming third party shell companies with patents, and sending them out to sue rivals. And Microsoft also poured more money into the giant patent troll Intellectual Ventures last year, even as Apple and other influential tech companies refused to participate. (Meanwhile, Intellectual Ventures appears to be up to its old tricks, as a new report suggests it is behind a new patent troll campaign to sue any company that offers a USB hub.)
As such, it’s unclear if the Google deal only covers direct litigation, or if it will also require Microsoft to call off its proxy attacks by privateers and trolls. Microsoft declined to provide clarification, and simply referred to yesterday’s joint statement: “Microsoft and Google are pleased to announce an agreement on patent issues. As part of the agreement, the companies will dismiss all pending patent infringement litigation between them, including cases related to Motorola Mobility. Separately, Google and Microsoft have agreed to collaborate on certain patent matters and anticipate working together in other areas in the future to benefit our customers.”
Optimists may see this announcement as part of a larger cultural change taking place under CEO Satya Nadella’s Microsoft, which says it wants to be “Silicon Valley’s best friend.” If so, this would presumably entail an end to sharp-elbowed patent stunts. Skeptics, however, can point to Microsoft’s track record on patents and ask if the company can really change its ways.
Will Google still play nice with its big patent pile?
Google has been a longtime advocate for reforming the dysfunctional U.S. patent system but, in recent years, the company has also been obtaining thousands of patents on its own. It was among the top 10 patent recipients of 2014 (not far behind Microsoft), and this year it created a patent purchase program to obtain even more of them from third parties. All this raises the question of whether Google will be able to resist demanding other firms pay up for those patents. This is the typical course of many mature companies which, once their most innovative days are over, turn to milking their patent portfolio for licensing revenue.
___
//So Fia
For now, it seems unlikely that Google will go down the road of IBM IBM 1.21% and others by seeking to turn their patents into a cash cow. Instead, the company appears to be playing a different game. Its recent purchase of second-hand patents, along with a program to hand out patents to startups, suggests Google is carrying out a sophisticated strategy to change the underlying value proposition of patents in the first place. As I’ve explained before, this strategy appears to based on creating a broad-based defensive network of companies that pledge not to sue each other. But as Google gets older, and transforms itself into a collection of subsidiaries under Alphabet, the day may come when it uses its patents on offense.
http://fortune.com/2015/10/01/google-microsoft-patent-analysis/
6 August 2016 16:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// look also few posts down.. about nutrition labels
And also conversation from google tools, Level 3, not so urgent:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/2/4581692/kinect-glasses-project-microsoft-patent-application
Talk: https://plus.google.com/+TheVerge/posts/YqWaGGoczPY (From NSA Spy tools to privacy and human logic )
And also conversation from google tools, Level 3, not so urgent:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/2/4581692/kinect-glasses-project-microsoft-patent-application
Talk: https://plus.google.com/+TheVerge/posts/YqWaGGoczPY (From NSA Spy tools to privacy and human logic )
6 August 2016 16:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Bigg man.. are us sure this is appropriate..
http://www.fosspatents.com/2016/06/design-patent-absurdity-on-display-as.html
Last week I provided an overview of the key issues in Samsung v. Apple, Samsung's appeal to the Supreme Court of Apple's design patent damages win. Thanks to CNET, Samsung's opening brief has meanwhile been published
That opening brief is really very interesting. Recommended reading. I'll talk about the issues it raises and the points it makes over time. The next procedural step is for "friends of the court" supporting Samsung (or supporting neither party) to file their submissions tomorrow.
The first part of Samsung's opening brief that I wish to comment on underscores the need for a Supreme Court ruling that will, hopefully, restore sanity. Otherwise, a company might have to disgorge its total, unapportioned profits from the sale of a product only because it uses a tiny arrow like this one (this post continues below the image)
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This is one of the patents Microsoft is presently asserting against Corel. Last summer I reported on Corel drawing first blood by suing Microsoft over a bunch of preview-related patents. A few months later, Microsoft retaliated with the assertion of six utility patents and four design patents. The Electronic Frontier Foundation named one of Microsoft's design patents-in-suit the "stupid patent of the month" of December 2015 because it merely covered the design of a slider. But that patent isn't nearly as bad as U.S. Design PAtent No. D550,237, which practically just covers a tiny arrow positioned in the lower right corner of a rectangle. If you look at the drawings, particularly this one, note that the dotted lines mark the parts that aren't claimed. What's really claimed is just a rectangle with another rectangle inside and that tiny graphical arrow in the bottom right corner.
If the EFF considered the slider patent the stupid patent of a given month, it might as well consider labeling the tiny-arrow-in-a-corner patent the stupid patent of the century.
This is not about Microsoft-bashing. It's all about a systemic problem.
If the world's largest software maker, with an annual R&D budget on the order of $10 billion, countersues a smaller software company and 40% of its assertions are design patents, one of which covers a tiny arrow in a corner, it's clear that the legal uncertainty currently surrounding design patent damages due to the decisions made in Apple v. Samsung by the Federal Circuit and the district court makes design patents disproportionately "valuable" since litigation is all about getting leverage.
As Samsung's lawyers put it in their opening brief, "the entire-profits rule for design-patent infringement makes the value of any single design patent, no matter how minor or trivial, greater than the value of all the utility patents in a smartphone or other technological device combined. The rule thus encourages companies to focus research and development on design patents rather than technologies. As one commentator [Prof. David Opderbeck, Seton Hall University] put it, ''the Federal Circuit's ruling could allow design patent law to swallow utility patent law, making the ornamental design more important than the underlying technology.'""
The following section of Samsung's brief discusses the "disastrous practical consequences" of the Federal Circuit ruling (if it was affirmed):
"The rule would create extreme asymmetry between design patents and utility patents, which are governed by ordinary rules of causation and proportionality. By making the most trivial design patent worth exponentially more than the most innovative utility patent, the rule would distort the patent system and harm innovation and competition. The rule would encourage companies to divert research and development from useful technologies to ornamental designs. It would encourage design-patent holders to litigate even weak infringement claims in a quest for outsized awards. And it would encourage non-practicing entities to use design patents as the next big thing for extracting holdup value from targeted businesses, with such extortionate demands posing especially grave threats to small businesses for whom a single design misstep could be an existential threat. Congress could not have intended any of these results."
Apple and Microsoft, two highly profitable technology companies, may see short-term value in design patents. They may hope that design patents just give them the leverage they need to obtain favorable settlements/license deals. But in the long run, nobody except for patent trolls and failed businesses will really want any of those disastrous things to happen.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/314617905/Samsung-opening-brief-in-Apple-case-at-US-Supreme-Court
http://www.fosspatents.com/2015/07/corel-software-sues-microsoft-for.html
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/12/stupid-patent-month-microsofts-design-patent-slider
Nearly as bad as: https://www.google.com/patents/USD550237
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/USD550237S1/USD0550237-20070904-D00000.png (note that the dotted lines mark the parts that aren't claimed. What's really claimed is just a rectangle with another rectangle inside and that tiny graphical arrow in the bottom right corner.)
As one commentator [Prof. David Opderbeck, Seton Hall University] put it:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/22/technology/supreme-court-to-hear-samsung-appeal-on-apple-patent-award.html
http://www.fosspatents.com/2016/06/design-patent-absurdity-on-display-as.html
Last week I provided an overview of the key issues in Samsung v. Apple, Samsung's appeal to the Supreme Court of Apple's design patent damages win. Thanks to CNET, Samsung's opening brief has meanwhile been published
That opening brief is really very interesting. Recommended reading. I'll talk about the issues it raises and the points it makes over time. The next procedural step is for "friends of the court" supporting Samsung (or supporting neither party) to file their submissions tomorrow.
The first part of Samsung's opening brief that I wish to comment on underscores the need for a Supreme Court ruling that will, hopefully, restore sanity. Otherwise, a company might have to disgorge its total, unapportioned profits from the sale of a product only because it uses a tiny arrow like this one (this post continues below the image)
--
This is one of the patents Microsoft is presently asserting against Corel. Last summer I reported on Corel drawing first blood by suing Microsoft over a bunch of preview-related patents. A few months later, Microsoft retaliated with the assertion of six utility patents and four design patents. The Electronic Frontier Foundation named one of Microsoft's design patents-in-suit the "stupid patent of the month" of December 2015 because it merely covered the design of a slider. But that patent isn't nearly as bad as U.S. Design PAtent No. D550,237, which practically just covers a tiny arrow positioned in the lower right corner of a rectangle. If you look at the drawings, particularly this one, note that the dotted lines mark the parts that aren't claimed. What's really claimed is just a rectangle with another rectangle inside and that tiny graphical arrow in the bottom right corner.
If the EFF considered the slider patent the stupid patent of a given month, it might as well consider labeling the tiny-arrow-in-a-corner patent the stupid patent of the century.
This is not about Microsoft-bashing. It's all about a systemic problem.
If the world's largest software maker, with an annual R&D budget on the order of $10 billion, countersues a smaller software company and 40% of its assertions are design patents, one of which covers a tiny arrow in a corner, it's clear that the legal uncertainty currently surrounding design patent damages due to the decisions made in Apple v. Samsung by the Federal Circuit and the district court makes design patents disproportionately "valuable" since litigation is all about getting leverage.
As Samsung's lawyers put it in their opening brief, "the entire-profits rule for design-patent infringement makes the value of any single design patent, no matter how minor or trivial, greater than the value of all the utility patents in a smartphone or other technological device combined. The rule thus encourages companies to focus research and development on design patents rather than technologies. As one commentator [Prof. David Opderbeck, Seton Hall University] put it, ''the Federal Circuit's ruling could allow design patent law to swallow utility patent law, making the ornamental design more important than the underlying technology.'""
The following section of Samsung's brief discusses the "disastrous practical consequences" of the Federal Circuit ruling (if it was affirmed):
"The rule would create extreme asymmetry between design patents and utility patents, which are governed by ordinary rules of causation and proportionality. By making the most trivial design patent worth exponentially more than the most innovative utility patent, the rule would distort the patent system and harm innovation and competition. The rule would encourage companies to divert research and development from useful technologies to ornamental designs. It would encourage design-patent holders to litigate even weak infringement claims in a quest for outsized awards. And it would encourage non-practicing entities to use design patents as the next big thing for extracting holdup value from targeted businesses, with such extortionate demands posing especially grave threats to small businesses for whom a single design misstep could be an existential threat. Congress could not have intended any of these results."
Apple and Microsoft, two highly profitable technology companies, may see short-term value in design patents. They may hope that design patents just give them the leverage they need to obtain favorable settlements/license deals. But in the long run, nobody except for patent trolls and failed businesses will really want any of those disastrous things to happen.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/314617905/Samsung-opening-brief-in-Apple-case-at-US-Supreme-Court
http://www.fosspatents.com/2015/07/corel-software-sues-microsoft-for.html
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/12/stupid-patent-month-microsofts-design-patent-slider
Nearly as bad as: https://www.google.com/patents/USD550237
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/USD550237S1/USD0550237-20070904-D00000.png (note that the dotted lines mark the parts that aren't claimed. What's really claimed is just a rectangle with another rectangle inside and that tiny graphical arrow in the bottom right corner.)
As one commentator [Prof. David Opderbeck, Seton Hall University] put it:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/22/technology/supreme-court-to-hear-samsung-appeal-on-apple-patent-award.html
http://www.fosspatents.com/2016/06/design-patent-absurdity-on-display-as.html
6 August 2016 16:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2009/0282325.html
http://www.juiceanalytics.com/writing/sparklines-in-excel-simplicity-itself/
http://joeganley.com/2008/10/sparklines-in-openoffice-calc.html
http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=0001OR&topic_id=1
http://ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/sparklines/
Anyone can file a appication, claiming to invent anything: for example http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2007/0035812.html
From: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=950266
http://www.juiceanalytics.com/writing/sparklines-in-excel-simplicity-itself/
http://joeganley.com/2008/10/sparklines-in-openoffice-calc.html
http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=0001OR&topic_id=1
http://ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/sparklines/
Anyone can file a appication, claiming to invent anything: for example http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2007/0035812.html
From: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=950266
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2009/0282325.html
6 August 2016 16:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And a lot of that:
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/758004/000095013407012375/f26782exv10w35.htm
Confidential Treatment has been requested for portions of this exhibit. The copy filed herewith omits the information subject to the confidentiality request. Omissions are designated as “***”. A complete version of this exhibit has been filed separately with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
MICROSOFT – NOVELL
PATENT COOPERATION AGREEMENT
This patent cooperation agreement (“Agreement”) is effective as of November 2, 2006 (“Effective Date”) by and between Microsoft Corporation, a Washington corporation having a primary place of business at One Microsoft Way, Redmond, Washington, USA 98052, and Microsoft Corporation’s Subsidiary, Microsoft Licensing, GP, a Nevada General Partnership having its primary place of business at 61000 Neil Road, Reno, Nevada, USA 89511 (“MLGP”) (collectively, “Microsoft”), and Novell, Inc., a Delaware corporation having a primary place of business at 404 Wyman, Waltham, Massachusetts, USA 02451 (“Novell”). Microsoft and Novell are herein referred to separately as “a party” or collectively as “the parties” and when capitalized as “Party” or “Parties” also includes their respective Subsidiaries.
RECITALS
Microsoft Corporation is the owner of its Patents (as defined below); and has licensed the rights to commercially exploit its Patents to MLGP.
The Parties acknowledge the ownership or control of Patents and a desire to grant rights to each other’s Customers and make certain accommodations to each other under certain such Patents.
The Parties expect to continue research and development that will result in ownership or control of additional Patents and therefore desire to grant rights to each other’s Customers and make certain accommodations to the other Party under certain such additional Patents.
In consideration of the mutual covenants and conditions stated herein and for good and valuable consideration, the Parties agree as set forth herein.
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1.2 “Covered Patents” means Patents entitled, in whole or in part, to an effective filing date on or before the end of the Term, (i) which a granting party or any of its Subsidiaries now or
*** Portion for which confidential treatment requested.
Microsoft — Novell
CONFIDENTIAL
Patent Cooperation Agreement
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hereafter during the Term owns or controls, or (ii) under which (and to the extent to which) a granting party or any of its Subsidiaries now or hereafter during the Term has the ability or right to grant a release, covenant not to sue or other freedom from suit. Covered Patents do not include Extendible Third Party Patents.
1.3 “Captured Patents” means Covered Patents entitled, in whole or in part, to an effective filing date on or before January 1, 2001 (i) which a granting party or any of its Subsidiaries owns or controls as of the Effective Date, or (ii) under which (and to the extent to which) a granting party or any of its Subsidiaries has as of the Effective Date the ability or right to grant a release, covenant not to sue or other freedom from suit.
1.4 “Applications Programming Interfaces” means a set of one or more routines or interfaces provided by an operating system or other software that are used to invoke or direct functions or services of such operating system or other software for use by other programs.
1.5 “Patents” means any and all patents, utility models, patent registrations, and equivalent rights (including, without limitation, originals, divisionals, provisionals, results of reexamination, continuations, continuations-in-part, extensions or reissues), and applications for the foregoing, in all countries of the world, and any other procedure or formality with respect to the aforesaid that can result in an enforceable patent right anywhere worldwide. Patents do not include design patents, design registrations, or trade dress rights.
1.6 “Subsidiary” means any entity (a) more than fifty percent (50%) of whose outstanding shares or securities representing the right to vote for the election of directors or other managing authority are, now or hereafter, owned or controlled, directly or indirectly, by a party, but such entity shall be considered a Subsidiary only so long as such ownership or control exists; or (b) which does not have outstanding shares or securities, as may be the case in a partnership, joint venture or unincorporated association, but more than fifty percent (50%) of whose ownership interest representing the right to make the decisions for such entity is, now or hereafter, owned or controlled, directly or indirectly, by a party, but such entity shall be considered a Subsidiary only so long as such ownership or control exists.
1.7 “Clone Product” means a product (or major component thereof) of a Party that has the same or substantially the same features and functionality as a then-existing product (or major component thereof) of the other Party (“Prior Product”) and that (a) has the same or substantially the same user interface, or (b) implements all or substantially all of the Application Programming Interfaces of the Prior Product. Those portions of a product that are otherwise licensed to one Party from the other Party, or that are compliant with a specification of a standards organization as to which the other Party has consented to the use of its Patents therefor, shall not be considered in determining whether the product is a Clone Product.
(i) The Parties agree that products sold, licensed, supplied, distributed or otherwise made available by a Party for Revenue before the Effective Date (“Existing Products”) will not be deemed Clone Products. For purposes of clarification, the parties acknowledge that any features and functionality of such Existing Products (“Existing Product Functionality”) may be
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considered in determining whether a new product (or major component thereof) meets the requirements set forth in the first paragraph of this definition, provided that, even if a new product (or major component thereof) meets such requirements, only those Patents covering inventions in new features and functionality in such Clone Product may be asserted against such Clone Product, and only with regard to Clone Product Functionality. For purposes of this subsection (i), “Clone Product Functionality” means features or functionality (other than Existing Product Functionality) that add to meeting the requirements set forth in the first paragraph of this definition.
(ii) Notwithstanding subsection (i) above, Wine, OpenXchange, StarOffice and OpenOffice are not subject to such subsection (i), however, the exclusion of such products from such subsection (i) is without implication as to (and shall not affect the determination of) whether such products (or any features or functionality thereof) are Clone Products. Further, the Parties agree that (A) no inference shall be drawn from the reference to the above products in this subsection as to whether such products are Clone Products and (B) this subsection shall not be admitted or referred to in evidence in any dispute regarding an evaluation of whether any of the products referred to in this subsection is a Clone Product.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/758004/000095013407012375/f26782exv10w35.htm
Confidential Treatment has been requested for portions of this exhibit. The copy filed herewith omits the information subject to the confidentiality request. Omissions are designated as “***”. A complete version of this exhibit has been filed separately with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
MICROSOFT – NOVELL
PATENT COOPERATION AGREEMENT
This patent cooperation agreement (“Agreement”) is effective as of November 2, 2006 (“Effective Date”) by and between Microsoft Corporation, a Washington corporation having a primary place of business at One Microsoft Way, Redmond, Washington, USA 98052, and Microsoft Corporation’s Subsidiary, Microsoft Licensing, GP, a Nevada General Partnership having its primary place of business at 61000 Neil Road, Reno, Nevada, USA 89511 (“MLGP”) (collectively, “Microsoft”), and Novell, Inc., a Delaware corporation having a primary place of business at 404 Wyman, Waltham, Massachusetts, USA 02451 (“Novell”). Microsoft and Novell are herein referred to separately as “a party” or collectively as “the parties” and when capitalized as “Party” or “Parties” also includes their respective Subsidiaries.
RECITALS
Microsoft Corporation is the owner of its Patents (as defined below); and has licensed the rights to commercially exploit its Patents to MLGP.
The Parties acknowledge the ownership or control of Patents and a desire to grant rights to each other’s Customers and make certain accommodations to each other under certain such Patents.
The Parties expect to continue research and development that will result in ownership or control of additional Patents and therefore desire to grant rights to each other’s Customers and make certain accommodations to the other Party under certain such additional Patents.
In consideration of the mutual covenants and conditions stated herein and for good and valuable consideration, the Parties agree as set forth herein.
AGREEMENT
1. DEFINITIONS
1.1 “Covered Products” of a Party means all products and services sold, licensed, supplied, distributed or otherwise made available by such Party except for Foundry Products, Clone Products and Other Excluded Products (collectively, “Excluded Products”).
1.2 “Covered Patents” means Patents entitled, in whole or in part, to an effective filing date on or before the end of the Term, (i) which a granting party or any of its Subsidiaries now or
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hereafter during the Term owns or controls, or (ii) under which (and to the extent to which) a granting party or any of its Subsidiaries now or hereafter during the Term has the ability or right to grant a release, covenant not to sue or other freedom from suit. Covered Patents do not include Extendible Third Party Patents.
1.3 “Captured Patents” means Covered Patents entitled, in whole or in part, to an effective filing date on or before January 1, 2001 (i) which a granting party or any of its Subsidiaries owns or controls as of the Effective Date, or (ii) under which (and to the extent to which) a granting party or any of its Subsidiaries has as of the Effective Date the ability or right to grant a release, covenant not to sue or other freedom from suit.
1.4 “Applications Programming Interfaces” means a set of one or more routines or interfaces provided by an operating system or other software that are used to invoke or direct functions or services of such operating system or other software for use by other programs.
1.5 “Patents” means any and all patents, utility models, patent registrations, and equivalent rights (including, without limitation, originals, divisionals, provisionals, results of reexamination, continuations, continuations-in-part, extensions or reissues), and applications for the foregoing, in all countries of the world, and any other procedure or formality with respect to the aforesaid that can result in an enforceable patent right anywhere worldwide. Patents do not include design patents, design registrations, or trade dress rights.
1.6 “Subsidiary” means any entity (a) more than fifty percent (50%) of whose outstanding shares or securities representing the right to vote for the election of directors or other managing authority are, now or hereafter, owned or controlled, directly or indirectly, by a party, but such entity shall be considered a Subsidiary only so long as such ownership or control exists; or (b) which does not have outstanding shares or securities, as may be the case in a partnership, joint venture or unincorporated association, but more than fifty percent (50%) of whose ownership interest representing the right to make the decisions for such entity is, now or hereafter, owned or controlled, directly or indirectly, by a party, but such entity shall be considered a Subsidiary only so long as such ownership or control exists.
1.7 “Clone Product” means a product (or major component thereof) of a Party that has the same or substantially the same features and functionality as a then-existing product (or major component thereof) of the other Party (“Prior Product”) and that (a) has the same or substantially the same user interface, or (b) implements all or substantially all of the Application Programming Interfaces of the Prior Product. Those portions of a product that are otherwise licensed to one Party from the other Party, or that are compliant with a specification of a standards organization as to which the other Party has consented to the use of its Patents therefor, shall not be considered in determining whether the product is a Clone Product.
(i) The Parties agree that products sold, licensed, supplied, distributed or otherwise made available by a Party for Revenue before the Effective Date (“Existing Products”) will not be deemed Clone Products. For purposes of clarification, the parties acknowledge that any features and functionality of such Existing Products (“Existing Product Functionality”) may be
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considered in determining whether a new product (or major component thereof) meets the requirements set forth in the first paragraph of this definition, provided that, even if a new product (or major component thereof) meets such requirements, only those Patents covering inventions in new features and functionality in such Clone Product may be asserted against such Clone Product, and only with regard to Clone Product Functionality. For purposes of this subsection (i), “Clone Product Functionality” means features or functionality (other than Existing Product Functionality) that add to meeting the requirements set forth in the first paragraph of this definition.
(ii) Notwithstanding subsection (i) above, Wine, OpenXchange, StarOffice and OpenOffice are not subject to such subsection (i), however, the exclusion of such products from such subsection (i) is without implication as to (and shall not affect the determination of) whether such products (or any features or functionality thereof) are Clone Products. Further, the Parties agree that (A) no inference shall be drawn from the reference to the above products in this subsection as to whether such products are Clone Products and (B) this subsection shall not be admitted or referred to in evidence in any dispute regarding an evaluation of whether any of the products referred to in this subsection is a Clone Product.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/758004/000095013407012375/f26782exv10w35.htm
6 August 2016 16:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vaat kus lugu
6 August 2016 16:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// Some other people from business look it from that perspective:
" Microsoft is an American company that produces a broad range of products from consumer electronics to enterprise software. Microsoft was founded in 1975 and has grown to have 94,000 people employed in 2011. Despite having invested a staggering € 7.6 bn in R&D, their 2011 sales were just above the sample average.
Despite Microsoft’s massive investment into R&D, they only have 74,536 patent applications published in total. This is partly due to the fact that they are still a young company compared to some of the other companies in the sample, which means that they published significantly less applications in the 1990s. Even though their patent count has increased heavily in recent years, they are still slightly below the sample average.
Citation Analysis
Many of Microsoft’s forward citations are self-citations, but 20,210 self-citations out of all 447,620 forward citations are similar to the average ratio of the sample.
Conclusion
Even if Microsoft continues to increase their number of published patent applications, their inability to actually publish new patents that are considered important in the industry will lead to a situation like the one that Hitachi is trying to recover from. Microsoft’s current technological position is characterised by a growing patent activity and immediacy, but potentially decreasing dominance and scope. As their strong patents expire, so will their dominance if they are not able to turn their R&D investment into basic patents that receive many forward citations. Despite Microsoft’s leading position in R&D investment, they are not able to turn their advantage into a leading position in terms of technological progress. Instead they have the characteristics of a follower according to Campbell’s (1983) company types.
http://www.prime-patent.com/microsoft-patent-portfolio/
http://www.prime-patent.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Microsoft_Company_Patent_Report.png
Microsoft_Patent_Portfolio_Report: http://www.prime-patent.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Microsoft_Patent_Portfolio_Company_Report.pdf
" Microsoft is an American company that produces a broad range of products from consumer electronics to enterprise software. Microsoft was founded in 1975 and has grown to have 94,000 people employed in 2011. Despite having invested a staggering € 7.6 bn in R&D, their 2011 sales were just above the sample average.
Despite Microsoft’s massive investment into R&D, they only have 74,536 patent applications published in total. This is partly due to the fact that they are still a young company compared to some of the other companies in the sample, which means that they published significantly less applications in the 1990s. Even though their patent count has increased heavily in recent years, they are still slightly below the sample average.
Citation Analysis
Many of Microsoft’s forward citations are self-citations, but 20,210 self-citations out of all 447,620 forward citations are similar to the average ratio of the sample.
Conclusion
Even if Microsoft continues to increase their number of published patent applications, their inability to actually publish new patents that are considered important in the industry will lead to a situation like the one that Hitachi is trying to recover from. Microsoft’s current technological position is characterised by a growing patent activity and immediacy, but potentially decreasing dominance and scope. As their strong patents expire, so will their dominance if they are not able to turn their R&D investment into basic patents that receive many forward citations. Despite Microsoft’s leading position in R&D investment, they are not able to turn their advantage into a leading position in terms of technological progress. Instead they have the characteristics of a follower according to Campbell’s (1983) company types.
http://www.prime-patent.com/microsoft-patent-portfolio/
http://www.prime-patent.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Microsoft_Company_Patent_Report.png
Microsoft_Patent_Portfolio_Report: http://www.prime-patent.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Microsoft_Patent_Portfolio_Company_Report.pdf
http://www.prime-patent.com/microsoft-patent-portfolio/
6 August 2016 16:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/23/microsofts_phonepad_hints_at_future_windows_plans/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/19/microsoft_3d_jedi_phone/
Also http://venturebeat.com/2016/02/13/microsoft-patents-a-modular-pc-with-stackable-components/
Hook up a keyboard and a display to the phone, and it turns a phone into a PC, with the same binaries on the phone turning into a (sort of) fully-fledged desktop app.
The “PhonePad” patent application hints at something else, though.
In the patent, two devices are co-operating. The inventors explain that the first (“e.g., a phone”) discovers and connects to a second (“e.g., a tablet”) to use the latter’s superior I/O. It sounds like very much like an Atrix-style dock, so why the mention of a tablet?
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It may be possible to synchronise content on one device (e.g. a phone) with content on another device (e.g. a tablet) but the synchronisation consumes time, energy, communication bandwidth, and computing resources. Consider a user who is reading a book on their tablet who reaches a certain point, then stops. The user may pick up their smart phone and not to start reading the same book.
The device goes on to hint that the invention is a clever way of ensuring one device can control a larger device. Why choose the name PhonePad, though?
As anyone who has filed a patent knows, it’s a mixture of obfuscation and disclosure. You need enough disclosure to protect your invention, and sufficient obfuscation to avoid getting your idea pinched, or your strategy pre-empted. We suspect obfuscation may be in play here. The secondary device example at various points is a “hover screen”.
Four years ago, Microsoft acquired Perceptive Pixel, a pioneer of very large multitouch displays. A year ago the first fruits emerged: the Surface Hub.
--
Surface Hub isn’t a volume product, but you’d be surprised how many organisations are prepared to chuck £15,000 at “a smart projector”.
Earlier this year Microsoft’s patent for a 3D Jedi phone emerged, which also has potential for manipulating the Surface Hub. Which all makes for a very expensive game of Pong. Collaboration software: it's where the money is.
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Jeddy:
Smartphone displays which respond to the level of pressure being applied open up new UX possibilities for designers.
Apple introduced force sensitive displays in its Apple Watch and iPhone 6s models last year, and the touchpad of its MacBook, although the iPhone implementation is far more sophisticated.
The iPhone 6s features an additional capacitive layer – an expensive way to give the touch UI a “right click”.
Microsoft was trying to reach the same goal by a different and more ambitious route. Its implementation attempted to discover whether the user’s finger was hovering over a tile, and then expanded the tile. The user could thus navigate through several hierarchical layers before actually tapping the screen.
The “Mix View” project emerged in late 2013 via leaker Evan Blass, and is confirmed in a patent application published this week by the USPTO.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/19/microsoft_3d_jedi_phone/
Also http://venturebeat.com/2016/02/13/microsoft-patents-a-modular-pc-with-stackable-components/
Hook up a keyboard and a display to the phone, and it turns a phone into a PC, with the same binaries on the phone turning into a (sort of) fully-fledged desktop app.
The “PhonePad” patent application hints at something else, though.
In the patent, two devices are co-operating. The inventors explain that the first (“e.g., a phone”) discovers and connects to a second (“e.g., a tablet”) to use the latter’s superior I/O. It sounds like very much like an Atrix-style dock, so why the mention of a tablet?
-
It may be possible to synchronise content on one device (e.g. a phone) with content on another device (e.g. a tablet) but the synchronisation consumes time, energy, communication bandwidth, and computing resources. Consider a user who is reading a book on their tablet who reaches a certain point, then stops. The user may pick up their smart phone and not to start reading the same book.
The device goes on to hint that the invention is a clever way of ensuring one device can control a larger device. Why choose the name PhonePad, though?
As anyone who has filed a patent knows, it’s a mixture of obfuscation and disclosure. You need enough disclosure to protect your invention, and sufficient obfuscation to avoid getting your idea pinched, or your strategy pre-empted. We suspect obfuscation may be in play here. The secondary device example at various points is a “hover screen”.
Four years ago, Microsoft acquired Perceptive Pixel, a pioneer of very large multitouch displays. A year ago the first fruits emerged: the Surface Hub.
--
Surface Hub isn’t a volume product, but you’d be surprised how many organisations are prepared to chuck £15,000 at “a smart projector”.
Earlier this year Microsoft’s patent for a 3D Jedi phone emerged, which also has potential for manipulating the Surface Hub. Which all makes for a very expensive game of Pong. Collaboration software: it's where the money is.
----
Jeddy:
Smartphone displays which respond to the level of pressure being applied open up new UX possibilities for designers.
Apple introduced force sensitive displays in its Apple Watch and iPhone 6s models last year, and the touchpad of its MacBook, although the iPhone implementation is far more sophisticated.
The iPhone 6s features an additional capacitive layer – an expensive way to give the touch UI a “right click”.
Microsoft was trying to reach the same goal by a different and more ambitious route. Its implementation attempted to discover whether the user’s finger was hovering over a tile, and then expanded the tile. The user could thus navigate through several hierarchical layers before actually tapping the screen.
The “Mix View” project emerged in late 2013 via leaker Evan Blass, and is confirmed in a patent application published this week by the USPTO.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/23/microsofts_phonepad_hints_at_future_windows_plans/
6 August 2016 16:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
To cool down..
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/05/16/week-patents-nasa-med-tech-microsoft/#gref
This week, the US patent office issued 6,842 patents. Each patent adds a little something new to the human knowledge base.
As we cannot list all six thousand, the PatentYogi team has selected the six most interesting patents.
6. Why’d the armadillo cross the road? For Microsoft’s new computer-part patent
Patent Number – US 20160132075
Hinge cover portions are provided over the multi-pivot hinges to protect the hinges from foreign objects and/or protect a user of the computing device from being pinched by the multi-pivot hinges during rotation.
The patented hinge includes a quick attach/detach assembly can allow the user to be able to detach a first portion and a second portion of a computing device to use either portion independent of the other.
2. Did Microsoft just invent the world’s best earphones?
Patent Number – US 20160134957
Headphones/earphones are available in various configurations. However, the over-ear headphones and in-ear earphones when worn by the user block the entrance to the ear canal of the user’s ear, thereby significantly attenuating sounds emanating from the user’s environment. Such earphones reduce the user’s ability to localize sounds in the environment.
Therefore, some users prefer non-occluding earpieces that can be worn on or near the user’s ear without substantially or completely blocking an entrance to the user’s ear.
However, most non-occluding earpiece have a small, discreet form factor. Therefore, they have smaller speakers and thus may need to be placed relatively close to the user’s ear to facilitate a suitably loud volume level. Moreover, human ears have a large variety of sizes and shapes. Therefore, many users find it difficult to comfortably attach a non-occluding earpiece that positions the speaker close enough to the ear entrance to produce sound with adequately loud volume.
The patented earphone provides a benefit of positioning the earpiece on the user’s ear to allow the user to listen to sounds from the earpiece while also allowing the user to hear a substantial portion of the sounds from his or her environment.
Specifically, the patented includes an enclosure that extends into the cavum conchae (of the ear) without substantially blocking the ear canal. This provides a sound path via a transducer into the user’s ear while also allowing the user to perceive sounds from his or her environment. Further, the earphone may have one or more microphones.
When worn on the user’s ear, the earphone grips a portion of the user’s ear to secure the earpiece to the user’s ear.
1. Ford improves car safety
This week they have patented a unique system to protect passengers during oblique impacts.
These are the impacts that occur at an angle of 10-50 degrees relative to the vehicle’s trajectory. During an oblique impact, occupants of the vehicle typically move forward and laterally with respect to a length of the vehicle. The patented system absorbs crash energy during an oblique impact, thereby reducing the damage.
During an oblique impact, an impact sensing system deploys a flexible sheet which is then positioned to receive an occupant moving both forward and laterally with respect to a longitudinal axis of the car. The flexible sheet absorbs the impact energy from the occupant.
3. Boeing improved wireless charging technology
Patent Number – US 20160134126
... Further, the invention detects the orientation of the device in three dimensions using sensors and then matches the orientation of the charging magnetic field with that of the device orientation for maximum energy transfer.
4. Good news for people living near airports
Patent Number – US 9,334,059
NASA has invented a soundproof panel for aircraft engines which suppresses engine noise to a great extent. The soundproof panel is designed to absorb sounds from jet engine such as specific tones of the turbine or compressor and general broadband noise.
With this technology, buildings near airports may soon get rid of expensive soundproofing installations.
5. eBay patented a system to stop the spread of diseases
Patent Number – US 20160132652
eBay has patented a system for faster detection and notification of the spread of communicable diseases. Mobile device or a wearable device captures physiological parameters of a user and shares the same with a service provider. The service provider collects physiological information, such as body temperature and blood pressure from one or more users via a device. Location data is also provided to the service provider. The service provider then analyzes this combination of data to track exposure to and risk of contracting a disease. In various embodiments, a user may report themselves as being ill or diagnosed with a specific disease.
//OMG! WTF?
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/05/16/week-patents-nasa-med-tech-microsoft/#gref
This week, the US patent office issued 6,842 patents. Each patent adds a little something new to the human knowledge base.
As we cannot list all six thousand, the PatentYogi team has selected the six most interesting patents.
6. Why’d the armadillo cross the road? For Microsoft’s new computer-part patent
Patent Number – US 20160132075
Hinge cover portions are provided over the multi-pivot hinges to protect the hinges from foreign objects and/or protect a user of the computing device from being pinched by the multi-pivot hinges during rotation.
The patented hinge includes a quick attach/detach assembly can allow the user to be able to detach a first portion and a second portion of a computing device to use either portion independent of the other.
2. Did Microsoft just invent the world’s best earphones?
Patent Number – US 20160134957
Headphones/earphones are available in various configurations. However, the over-ear headphones and in-ear earphones when worn by the user block the entrance to the ear canal of the user’s ear, thereby significantly attenuating sounds emanating from the user’s environment. Such earphones reduce the user’s ability to localize sounds in the environment.
Therefore, some users prefer non-occluding earpieces that can be worn on or near the user’s ear without substantially or completely blocking an entrance to the user’s ear.
However, most non-occluding earpiece have a small, discreet form factor. Therefore, they have smaller speakers and thus may need to be placed relatively close to the user’s ear to facilitate a suitably loud volume level. Moreover, human ears have a large variety of sizes and shapes. Therefore, many users find it difficult to comfortably attach a non-occluding earpiece that positions the speaker close enough to the ear entrance to produce sound with adequately loud volume.
The patented earphone provides a benefit of positioning the earpiece on the user’s ear to allow the user to listen to sounds from the earpiece while also allowing the user to hear a substantial portion of the sounds from his or her environment.
Specifically, the patented includes an enclosure that extends into the cavum conchae (of the ear) without substantially blocking the ear canal. This provides a sound path via a transducer into the user’s ear while also allowing the user to perceive sounds from his or her environment. Further, the earphone may have one or more microphones.
When worn on the user’s ear, the earphone grips a portion of the user’s ear to secure the earpiece to the user’s ear.
1. Ford improves car safety
This week they have patented a unique system to protect passengers during oblique impacts.
These are the impacts that occur at an angle of 10-50 degrees relative to the vehicle’s trajectory. During an oblique impact, occupants of the vehicle typically move forward and laterally with respect to a length of the vehicle. The patented system absorbs crash energy during an oblique impact, thereby reducing the damage.
During an oblique impact, an impact sensing system deploys a flexible sheet which is then positioned to receive an occupant moving both forward and laterally with respect to a longitudinal axis of the car. The flexible sheet absorbs the impact energy from the occupant.
3. Boeing improved wireless charging technology
Patent Number – US 20160134126
... Further, the invention detects the orientation of the device in three dimensions using sensors and then matches the orientation of the charging magnetic field with that of the device orientation for maximum energy transfer.
4. Good news for people living near airports
Patent Number – US 9,334,059
NASA has invented a soundproof panel for aircraft engines which suppresses engine noise to a great extent. The soundproof panel is designed to absorb sounds from jet engine such as specific tones of the turbine or compressor and general broadband noise.
With this technology, buildings near airports may soon get rid of expensive soundproofing installations.
5. eBay patented a system to stop the spread of diseases
Patent Number – US 20160132652
eBay has patented a system for faster detection and notification of the spread of communicable diseases. Mobile device or a wearable device captures physiological parameters of a user and shares the same with a service provider. The service provider collects physiological information, such as body temperature and blood pressure from one or more users via a device. Location data is also provided to the service provider. The service provider then analyzes this combination of data to track exposure to and risk of contracting a disease. In various embodiments, a user may report themselves as being ill or diagnosed with a specific disease.
//OMG! WTF?
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/05/16/week-patents-nasa-med-tech-microsoft/#gref
6 August 2016 15:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Where was the media in the midst of all this? Why is this not being covered? IT Wire portrays Microsoft as a friend of Linux. This is far too shallow an article by an occasional writer and another new article from his colleague, Sam Varghese, mentions almost nothing at all about Microsoft’s attacks on GNU/Linux. Planet Debian also obsesses over the wrong news (so do Debian supporters), which isn’t even news at all. The Microsoft/SONiC/Debian thing is not news because it was mentioned in passing several months ago. It’s old new recycled or re-announced by Microsoft for propaganda, serving to distract from patent extortion (two incidents thereof), whether by design or by pure coincidence, which we doubt"
Obsessed ower wrng news
http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/the-linux-distillery/71829-microsoft-needs-linux-to-be-on-the-forefront-of-software-defined-networking.html
http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/71823-microsoft-announces-debian-based-software-for-networking.html
http://henrich-on-debian.blogspot.com/2016/03/microsoft-uses-debian-this-is-2010s.html
http://mrpogson.com/2016/03/09/omg-m-ships-debian-gnulinux/
Obsessed ower wrng news
http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/the-linux-distillery/71829-microsoft-needs-linux-to-be-on-the-forefront-of-software-defined-networking.html
http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/71823-microsoft-announces-debian-based-software-for-networking.html
http://henrich-on-debian.blogspot.com/2016/03/microsoft-uses-debian-this-is-2010s.html
http://mrpogson.com/2016/03/09/omg-m-ships-debian-gnulinux/
6 August 2016 15:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://techrights.org/2016/03/10/charm-offensives-distract/ a little panics article.
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MICROSOFT HAS — whether deliberately or not — been distracting the media and disguising several patent attacks on Linux by openwashing its latest proprietary crusades (bringing Microsoft’s proprietary software and lock-in to FOSS and/or GNU/Linux). For those who have been living under a rock/tree since 2006 (the Novell-Microsoft patent deal), Microsoft is trying to tax GNU/Linux, raising its cost while also making it a cash cow of Microsoft, by leveraging software patents. Microsoft always coerces the extorted party into stating (in the public eye) that everything is amicable while the settlements are wrapped in a coat of NDAs. We gave an example of this last month (Acer). It’s not only unjust; as per the RICO Act, this should come under investigation for potential violations of the law. This, in our view, is racketeering. “That’s extortion,” Mark Shuttleworth (founder of Canonical) said many years ago, “and we should call it what it is. To say, as Ballmer did, that there is undisclosed balance sheet liability, that’s just extortion and we should refuse to get drawn into that game.” On another occasion he told the media: “Microsoft is asking people to pay them for patents, but they won’t say which ones. If a guy walks into a shop and says: “It’s an unsafe neighbourhood, why don’t you pay me 20 bucks and I’ll make sure you’re okay,” that’s illegal. It’s racketeering.”
To add insult to injury, Microsoft is ripping GNU/Linux off (Canonical in this one example) and then patenting the ideas of Canonical/Ubuntu. See this new article from a Microsoft propaganda site. It’s titled “Microsoft applies for Continuum patent” and comments on it say (among other things): “The issue is that mainstream media think it is MS idea, even calling Ubuntu convergence being inspired by continuum.
" Microsoft, you see, loves Linux enough to just blackmail it. Again and again. It happened a second time this week alone, while the media wasn’t paying attention. Only Microsoft propaganda sites [1, 2] have covered it (so far, with the expected bias) and the Microsoft boosters try to make this racketeering look like “pals”. Why are general news sites or GNU/Linux sites not paying attention? It was simply nowhere in the news, not ‘on the radar’. Microsoft is now acting exactly like a patent troll, and it’s called “Microsoft Technology Licensing LLC,” based on the announcement which says: “Microsoft Technology Licensing LLC and Rakuten Inc. on March 9 signed a worldwide patent cross-licensing agreement covering each company’s respective consumer electronics products, including Linux and Android-based devices.”
So only 2 days apart Microsoft signed two Linux-related patent ‘deals’ (extortion), but the media focused only on Microsoft PR. Here is a sort of press release that almost nobody noticed
"How interesting a timing. “Microsoft can embrace open source all it wants,” Simon Phipps wrote (he is a FOSS luminary), “but until it foreswears patent aggression against community members it’s a hostile party.”
I had a bit of a chat with him about this [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]. He’s clearly too smart to fall for Microsoft’s charm offensive. Microsoft loves Linux? Well, just ignore “Microsoft Technology Licensing LLC,” which is attacking Linux, essentially engaging in blackmail and extortion with software patents. Also take note of this report from yesterday (“EU Taking Steps Towards Formal Complaint Against Google’s Android” over at Bloomberg) which reminds us that Microsoft is still lobbying and AstroTurfing (lobbying by proxy) against Linux, as we explained many times before.
So, this is the real Microsoft and for those who think it “loves Linux” perhaps a bit of a broader perspective may be necessary. The media sure isn’t helping because all it has done this past week is reposts/recycling of marketing images from Microsoft (with red-coloured hearts in them). That’s hardly journalism; it’s often called churnalism as it requires no research or input, just a little editing."
http://techrights.org/2016/03/08/microsoft-extorting-wistron/
http://www.senecaglobe.com/microsoft-corporation-nasdaqmsft-extends-a-patent-licensing-accord-with-wistron-corporation/316953/
http://ipprotheinternet.com/ipprotheinternetnews/patentsarticle.php?article_id=4824
http://www.worldipreview.com/news/microsoft-agrees-android-patent-licensing-deal-9663
https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/707354563901300736
https://twitter.com/webmink/status/707509086741520384
https://twitter.com/webmink/status/707511217758326784
https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/707509431337099264
https://twitter.com/webmink/status/707694919020847104
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-09/eu-s-android-probe-said-to-advance-as-rivals-censor-evidence-ill3uqi8
Try to look like pals and promotion:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-latest-two-android-patent-pals-wistron-and-rakuten/
http://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-signs-patent-licensing-deal-rakuten-covering-android-and-linux-devices
http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-signs-linux-android-patent-licensing-agreement-rakuten
Considering in general terms whether there was a deliberate design/plan here (intended to bury certain news while propping up some old/recycled news), Microsoft boosters sure covered the wrong thing and in general news sites the headline was changed from “Microsoft will release a custom Debian Linux. Repeat, a custom Debian Linux for networking” to “Microsoft has released a Debian Linux switch OS. Repeat, a Debian Linux switch operating system” (which is an entirely different thing, suggesting that it’s just recycled old news). The Register had rewritten its initial misleading headline about Microsoft and Debian and suddenly it looked like news from last year.
//oh, yo, my years long idea about #MicroLinux etc, is old plan.. but still, my way is another way..
Anyway, this site seems to be not most friendly with android jey
"
MICROSOFT HAS — whether deliberately or not — been distracting the media and disguising several patent attacks on Linux by openwashing its latest proprietary crusades (bringing Microsoft’s proprietary software and lock-in to FOSS and/or GNU/Linux). For those who have been living under a rock/tree since 2006 (the Novell-Microsoft patent deal), Microsoft is trying to tax GNU/Linux, raising its cost while also making it a cash cow of Microsoft, by leveraging software patents. Microsoft always coerces the extorted party into stating (in the public eye) that everything is amicable while the settlements are wrapped in a coat of NDAs. We gave an example of this last month (Acer). It’s not only unjust; as per the RICO Act, this should come under investigation for potential violations of the law. This, in our view, is racketeering. “That’s extortion,” Mark Shuttleworth (founder of Canonical) said many years ago, “and we should call it what it is. To say, as Ballmer did, that there is undisclosed balance sheet liability, that’s just extortion and we should refuse to get drawn into that game.” On another occasion he told the media: “Microsoft is asking people to pay them for patents, but they won’t say which ones. If a guy walks into a shop and says: “It’s an unsafe neighbourhood, why don’t you pay me 20 bucks and I’ll make sure you’re okay,” that’s illegal. It’s racketeering.”
To add insult to injury, Microsoft is ripping GNU/Linux off (Canonical in this one example) and then patenting the ideas of Canonical/Ubuntu. See this new article from a Microsoft propaganda site. It’s titled “Microsoft applies for Continuum patent” and comments on it say (among other things): “The issue is that mainstream media think it is MS idea, even calling Ubuntu convergence being inspired by continuum.
" Microsoft, you see, loves Linux enough to just blackmail it. Again and again. It happened a second time this week alone, while the media wasn’t paying attention. Only Microsoft propaganda sites [1, 2] have covered it (so far, with the expected bias) and the Microsoft boosters try to make this racketeering look like “pals”. Why are general news sites or GNU/Linux sites not paying attention? It was simply nowhere in the news, not ‘on the radar’. Microsoft is now acting exactly like a patent troll, and it’s called “Microsoft Technology Licensing LLC,” based on the announcement which says: “Microsoft Technology Licensing LLC and Rakuten Inc. on March 9 signed a worldwide patent cross-licensing agreement covering each company’s respective consumer electronics products, including Linux and Android-based devices.”
So only 2 days apart Microsoft signed two Linux-related patent ‘deals’ (extortion), but the media focused only on Microsoft PR. Here is a sort of press release that almost nobody noticed
"How interesting a timing. “Microsoft can embrace open source all it wants,” Simon Phipps wrote (he is a FOSS luminary), “but until it foreswears patent aggression against community members it’s a hostile party.”
I had a bit of a chat with him about this [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]. He’s clearly too smart to fall for Microsoft’s charm offensive. Microsoft loves Linux? Well, just ignore “Microsoft Technology Licensing LLC,” which is attacking Linux, essentially engaging in blackmail and extortion with software patents. Also take note of this report from yesterday (“EU Taking Steps Towards Formal Complaint Against Google’s Android” over at Bloomberg) which reminds us that Microsoft is still lobbying and AstroTurfing (lobbying by proxy) against Linux, as we explained many times before.
So, this is the real Microsoft and for those who think it “loves Linux” perhaps a bit of a broader perspective may be necessary. The media sure isn’t helping because all it has done this past week is reposts/recycling of marketing images from Microsoft (with red-coloured hearts in them). That’s hardly journalism; it’s often called churnalism as it requires no research or input, just a little editing."
http://techrights.org/2016/03/08/microsoft-extorting-wistron/
http://www.senecaglobe.com/microsoft-corporation-nasdaqmsft-extends-a-patent-licensing-accord-with-wistron-corporation/316953/
http://ipprotheinternet.com/ipprotheinternetnews/patentsarticle.php?article_id=4824
http://www.worldipreview.com/news/microsoft-agrees-android-patent-licensing-deal-9663
https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/707354563901300736
https://twitter.com/webmink/status/707509086741520384
https://twitter.com/webmink/status/707511217758326784
https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/707509431337099264
https://twitter.com/webmink/status/707694919020847104
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-09/eu-s-android-probe-said-to-advance-as-rivals-censor-evidence-ill3uqi8
Try to look like pals and promotion:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-latest-two-android-patent-pals-wistron-and-rakuten/
http://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-signs-patent-licensing-deal-rakuten-covering-android-and-linux-devices
http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-signs-linux-android-patent-licensing-agreement-rakuten
Considering in general terms whether there was a deliberate design/plan here (intended to bury certain news while propping up some old/recycled news), Microsoft boosters sure covered the wrong thing and in general news sites the headline was changed from “Microsoft will release a custom Debian Linux. Repeat, a custom Debian Linux for networking” to “Microsoft has released a Debian Linux switch OS. Repeat, a Debian Linux switch operating system” (which is an entirely different thing, suggesting that it’s just recycled old news). The Register had rewritten its initial misleading headline about Microsoft and Debian and suddenly it looked like news from last year.
//oh, yo, my years long idea about #MicroLinux etc, is old plan.. but still, my way is another way..
Anyway, this site seems to be not most friendly with android jey
http://techrights.org/2016/03/10/charm-offensives-distract/
6 August 2016 15:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" A long time ago, Microsoft MSFT +0.94% purchased Nokia s Devices and Services division. In the period between the deal being announced and the deal closing, Nokia’s engineers pushed out one last hurrah. The Nokia X range of handsets, powered by Nokia’s own fork of Android, tied into Nokia’s ID system as well as Microsoft’s nascent cloud services.
The specifications placed the handsets in the budget and mid-range market, so we never got to see a full-throttled Nokia Android platform, but I like to think that Finnish engineers were happy to get the chance to show what they could have done had Nokia made a different decision on February 2011 instead of announcing its adoption of Windows Phone.
As the deal closed, it left Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella with a question… would Microsoft pick up the challenge of Android or would the Nokia X be left behind in a metaphorical Finnish limbo? The focus went to Windows Phone, and the upcoming move to Windows 10 across the full portfolio, and Nokia’s Android present was left on the doorstep. "
"If we smash cut to the present day, Microsoft’s Windows 10 move is under way with the desk-bound computers, the Surface hardware now on the updated operating system, and Microsoft is as far away from manufacturing and distributing its own Android device as… well… Apple AAPL +1.49%. Why would it want to, when it has the Android platform where it wants it?"
Financially Microsoft is one of the biggest winners from the growth of Android as a platform, thanks to its wide range of patents. Samsung’s royalty payment to Microsoft in 2013 was for over one billion dollars ($1,041,642,161 and fifty cents), roughly $3.41 per device.
Given each manufacturer’s individual negotiations with Microsoft, the licensing fee is the biggest variable in that calculation. It also ignores income from tablet devices, and also puts aside that the recent licensing deals have included something that is just as important to Microsoft as licensing fees… access to a manufacturer’s user base.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/11/01/microsoft-android-patent-income/#6bcd5b5e7275
And also:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/03/game-companies-knock-out-patent-that-slammed-microsoft-with-388m-verdict/
"The process through which PTAB eliminated the patent is called an "inter partes review," or IPR. The IPR process, created by the America Invents Act, is an increasingly popular and effective way for defendants to challenge patents outside federal courts.
The PTAB case against Uniloc's patent was filed by Sega of America, Ubisoft, Cambium Learning Group, and Perfect World Entertainment. The board found that every claim in Uniloc's patent was anticipated or rendered obvious by an earlier patent.
"The PTAB decision is inconsistent with two prior rulings by the Federal Circuit and with the opinions of seven patent examiners who previously upheld the validity of the '216 patent in multiple reexaminations," Uniloc president Sean Burdick told the Kansas City Business Journal, which reported the decision earlier this week. "Ultimately the PTAB gave undue credibility to a lone expert opinion that was authored by petitioners' counsel. Congratulations to [opposing law firm] Erise IP for pulling wool over the eyes of the Patent Office."
Burdick didn't say if he plans to appeal the decision, which Uniloc is allowed to do.
Uniloc has sued about 75 companies with the '216 patent, according to the KC Business Journal. Of those, it says one-third settled out of court.
It was Uniloc's lawsuit against Microsoft that provided the company with its original headlines. Uniloc said that Microsoft's system of checking software licenses—in other words, type in a key number and have your software validated—violated the patent. That case led to a $388 million jury verdict against Microsoft. The nation's top patent appeals court upheld Uniloc's win, but it said that damages should be re-calculated. Microsoft settled for an undisclosed sum after that.
The massive win against Microsoft led to Uniloc embracing the pure enforcement model sometimes called "patent trolling," acquiring more and more patents solely for litigation purposes. The dozens of lawsuits based on the '216 patent don't include cases that involve other patents, like US Patent No. 6,857,067 on a "system and method for preventing unauthorized access to electronic data." That was used to sue Minecraft maker Mojang and Electronic Arts in 2012.
The '216 patent, which has been called an anti-piracy or "software activation" patent, expired in 2013 but was still used in lawsuits through 2014. Even after a patent expires, a patent owner can sue for up to six years of back damages"
The specifications placed the handsets in the budget and mid-range market, so we never got to see a full-throttled Nokia Android platform, but I like to think that Finnish engineers were happy to get the chance to show what they could have done had Nokia made a different decision on February 2011 instead of announcing its adoption of Windows Phone.
As the deal closed, it left Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella with a question… would Microsoft pick up the challenge of Android or would the Nokia X be left behind in a metaphorical Finnish limbo? The focus went to Windows Phone, and the upcoming move to Windows 10 across the full portfolio, and Nokia’s Android present was left on the doorstep. "
"If we smash cut to the present day, Microsoft’s Windows 10 move is under way with the desk-bound computers, the Surface hardware now on the updated operating system, and Microsoft is as far away from manufacturing and distributing its own Android device as… well… Apple AAPL +1.49%. Why would it want to, when it has the Android platform where it wants it?"
Financially Microsoft is one of the biggest winners from the growth of Android as a platform, thanks to its wide range of patents. Samsung’s royalty payment to Microsoft in 2013 was for over one billion dollars ($1,041,642,161 and fifty cents), roughly $3.41 per device.
Given each manufacturer’s individual negotiations with Microsoft, the licensing fee is the biggest variable in that calculation. It also ignores income from tablet devices, and also puts aside that the recent licensing deals have included something that is just as important to Microsoft as licensing fees… access to a manufacturer’s user base.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/11/01/microsoft-android-patent-income/#6bcd5b5e7275
And also:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/03/game-companies-knock-out-patent-that-slammed-microsoft-with-388m-verdict/
"The process through which PTAB eliminated the patent is called an "inter partes review," or IPR. The IPR process, created by the America Invents Act, is an increasingly popular and effective way for defendants to challenge patents outside federal courts.
The PTAB case against Uniloc's patent was filed by Sega of America, Ubisoft, Cambium Learning Group, and Perfect World Entertainment. The board found that every claim in Uniloc's patent was anticipated or rendered obvious by an earlier patent.
"The PTAB decision is inconsistent with two prior rulings by the Federal Circuit and with the opinions of seven patent examiners who previously upheld the validity of the '216 patent in multiple reexaminations," Uniloc president Sean Burdick told the Kansas City Business Journal, which reported the decision earlier this week. "Ultimately the PTAB gave undue credibility to a lone expert opinion that was authored by petitioners' counsel. Congratulations to [opposing law firm] Erise IP for pulling wool over the eyes of the Patent Office."
Burdick didn't say if he plans to appeal the decision, which Uniloc is allowed to do.
Uniloc has sued about 75 companies with the '216 patent, according to the KC Business Journal. Of those, it says one-third settled out of court.
It was Uniloc's lawsuit against Microsoft that provided the company with its original headlines. Uniloc said that Microsoft's system of checking software licenses—in other words, type in a key number and have your software validated—violated the patent. That case led to a $388 million jury verdict against Microsoft. The nation's top patent appeals court upheld Uniloc's win, but it said that damages should be re-calculated. Microsoft settled for an undisclosed sum after that.
The massive win against Microsoft led to Uniloc embracing the pure enforcement model sometimes called "patent trolling," acquiring more and more patents solely for litigation purposes. The dozens of lawsuits based on the '216 patent don't include cases that involve other patents, like US Patent No. 6,857,067 on a "system and method for preventing unauthorized access to electronic data." That was used to sue Minecraft maker Mojang and Electronic Arts in 2012.
The '216 patent, which has been called an anti-piracy or "software activation" patent, expired in 2013 but was still used in lawsuits through 2014. Even after a patent expires, a patent owner can sue for up to six years of back damages"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/11/01/microsoft-android-patent-income/#6bcd5b5e7275
6 August 2016 15:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and talk on sashDot:"Microsoft actually have products
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Uniloc too: it's actually one of the oldest software company operating in the security and product activation technology area.
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Uniloc OTOH is a total NPE. They produce nothing of value.
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I would argue that since their products reduce the quality of any derivative which employs them, they actually have an anti-value.
https://gamergazette.wordpress.com/2010/05/03/alpha-protocol-drm-detailed/
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Uniloc too: it's actually one of the oldest software company operating in the security and product activation technology area.
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Uniloc OTOH is a total NPE. They produce nothing of value.
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I would argue that since their products reduce the quality of any derivative which employs them, they actually have an anti-value.
https://gamergazette.wordpress.com/2010/05/03/alpha-protocol-drm-detailed/
https://gamergazette.wordpress.com/2010/05/03/alpha-protocol-drm-detailed/
6 August 2016 15:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"One of the oldest and most profitable patent trolls, Uniloc, has been shot down. Its US Patent No. 5,490,216, which claims to own the concept of "product activation" in software, had all claims ruled invalid by the Patent Trademark and Appeals Board (PTAB). The process through which PTAB eliminated the patent is called an "inter partes review," or IPR. The IPR process, created by the America Invents Act, is an increasingly popular and effective way for defendants to challenge patents outside federal courts. It was Uniloc's lawsuit against Microsoft that provided the company with its original headlines. Uniloc said that Microsoft's system of checking software licenses -- in other words, type in a key number and have your software validated violated -- the patent. That case led to a $388 million jury verdict against Microsoft
https://yro.slashdot.org/story/16/03/26/1054224/patent-that-cost-microsoft-millions-gets-invalidated
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/03/game-companies-knock-out-patent-that-slammed-microsoft-with-388m-verdict/
https://yro.slashdot.org/story/16/03/26/1054224/patent-that-cost-microsoft-millions-gets-invalidated
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/03/game-companies-knock-out-patent-that-slammed-microsoft-with-388m-verdict/
https://yro.slashdot.org/story/16/03/26/1054224/patent-that-cost-microsoft-millions-gets-invalidated
6 August 2016 15:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And
Here is the what came out of those conversations:
Joining OIN is not the solution
There are many reasons why Microsoft may not join the Open Invention Network (OIN) anytime soon. First of all, if a company doesn’t want to use patents as a weapon, it won’t, whether or not it joins OIN.
At the same time, joining OIN doesn’t guarantee that a company won't use patents as a weapon. Both Oracle and Google are OIN members and they have locked horns in one of the fieriest battles in the open source world. IBM is one of the founders of OIN and it has also sued companies (like Groupon) over various patents.
So as much as I believe joining OIN sends a positive message, I don’t think that’s _the_ ultimate solution.
Cross licensing is an industry norm
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Cross licensing deals are a common practice in many industries. What Microsoft is doing is nothing new or unique. They get more attention because many believe that software or process patents should not exist in the first place. And software patents are a particularly sensitive issue for the open source community. That said, what the community believes at odds with how industry operates.
Patents generate revenue
Microsoft is making a lot of money from patents. According to reports Microsoft may be making as much as $3 billion from patents alone. That’s more than what Red Hat makes in a year. So Microsoft is not going to give up that revenue just to make some people feel good about them.
Cost of patents
If you are a company selling a box with Linux or Android in it, Microsoft may want to sign a patent deal with you. This is likely cheaper than going to court, and that’s why most companies choose to sign a deal. These companies don’t bear the cost of the patent; they shift the cost to customers. They may think of patent fees as the equivalent of the cost of another hardware component going into their devices. It is an easier cost to bear than the uncertain costs of a legal battle, especially against a company with deep pockets.
Developers and companies don’t care
Companies like Canonical, Red Hat and SUSE are close partners of Microsoft. These companies, from what I see, don’t much care about such patent deals. Other than what Novell did in their partnership with Microsoft when they owned SUSE and a limited patent agreement that Red Hat and Microsoft have, Canonical has not signed any such patent deal, as far as I know.
At the same time, every developer I have talked to is excited about Microsoft open sourcing their tools. All they really care about is having more open source software out there.
The most vocal criticism comes from a section of the open source community that blindly hates Microsoft. And there is absolutely nothing that can be done to appease this segment of the community. And I think neither Microsoft nor their partners worry much about this vocal minority.
Final takeaway
We need to fix our broken patent system, and until and unless that happens, companies will use patents as a weapons.
Looking at the revenue that patents generate for Microsoft, I don’t see them changing course anytime soon. So there is no point in beating a dead horse. What I would like to see is Microsoft open sourcing more and more of their software and becoming a pure open source company.
The most open source software, the better. Right?
This article is published as part of the IDG Contributor Network. Want to Join?
http://www.cio.com/article/3045799/linux/5-reasons-microsoft-may-never-give-up-on-linux-patent-claims.html
Here is the what came out of those conversations:
Joining OIN is not the solution
There are many reasons why Microsoft may not join the Open Invention Network (OIN) anytime soon. First of all, if a company doesn’t want to use patents as a weapon, it won’t, whether or not it joins OIN.
At the same time, joining OIN doesn’t guarantee that a company won't use patents as a weapon. Both Oracle and Google are OIN members and they have locked horns in one of the fieriest battles in the open source world. IBM is one of the founders of OIN and it has also sued companies (like Groupon) over various patents.
So as much as I believe joining OIN sends a positive message, I don’t think that’s _the_ ultimate solution.
Cross licensing is an industry norm
Create a better way to work -move enterprise content to the Cloud
SponsoredPost Sponsored by Opentext
Create a better way to work -move enterprise content to the Cloud
Content management in the Cloud can enable enhanced service levels with reduced capital spend. Read to find how to calculate the total cost of ownership of moving your content management to the loud
Cross licensing deals are a common practice in many industries. What Microsoft is doing is nothing new or unique. They get more attention because many believe that software or process patents should not exist in the first place. And software patents are a particularly sensitive issue for the open source community. That said, what the community believes at odds with how industry operates.
Patents generate revenue
Microsoft is making a lot of money from patents. According to reports Microsoft may be making as much as $3 billion from patents alone. That’s more than what Red Hat makes in a year. So Microsoft is not going to give up that revenue just to make some people feel good about them.
Cost of patents
If you are a company selling a box with Linux or Android in it, Microsoft may want to sign a patent deal with you. This is likely cheaper than going to court, and that’s why most companies choose to sign a deal. These companies don’t bear the cost of the patent; they shift the cost to customers. They may think of patent fees as the equivalent of the cost of another hardware component going into their devices. It is an easier cost to bear than the uncertain costs of a legal battle, especially against a company with deep pockets.
Developers and companies don’t care
Companies like Canonical, Red Hat and SUSE are close partners of Microsoft. These companies, from what I see, don’t much care about such patent deals. Other than what Novell did in their partnership with Microsoft when they owned SUSE and a limited patent agreement that Red Hat and Microsoft have, Canonical has not signed any such patent deal, as far as I know.
At the same time, every developer I have talked to is excited about Microsoft open sourcing their tools. All they really care about is having more open source software out there.
The most vocal criticism comes from a section of the open source community that blindly hates Microsoft. And there is absolutely nothing that can be done to appease this segment of the community. And I think neither Microsoft nor their partners worry much about this vocal minority.
Final takeaway
We need to fix our broken patent system, and until and unless that happens, companies will use patents as a weapons.
Looking at the revenue that patents generate for Microsoft, I don’t see them changing course anytime soon. So there is no point in beating a dead horse. What I would like to see is Microsoft open sourcing more and more of their software and becoming a pure open source company.
The most open source software, the better. Right?
This article is published as part of the IDG Contributor Network. Want to Join?
http://www.cio.com/article/3045799/linux/5-reasons-microsoft-may-never-give-up-on-linux-patent-claims.html
http://www.cio.com/article/3045799/linux/5-reasons-microsoft-may-never-give-up-on-linux-patent-claims.html
6 August 2016 15:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
European Patent Office http://www.epo.org/searching/free/espacenet.html
http://www.epo.org/searching/free/espacenet.html
6 August 2016 15:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.uspto.gov/patents/process/status/index.jsp
http://www.uspto.gov/patents/process/status/index.jsp
6 August 2016 14:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
US Patent and Trademark Office's general http://www.uspto.gov/patents/process/search/index.jsp
http://www.uspto.gov/patents/process/search/index.jsp
6 August 2016 14:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
www.oropo.net ORoPO is the global database of patent owners verified by companies committed to openness and transparency
http://www.oropo.net/
6 August 2016 14:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.latestpatents.com/category/microsoft/
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6 August 2016 14:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"A Unique History of Innovation
Microsoft innovation continues to revolutionize how people work, connect, and experience the world—and we license many of our patents and technologies to help other companies grow.
For more than 40 years Microsoft has been making big, bold bets on the future of technology. By investing more than $11 billion in research and development annually, we continue to expand the possibilities of computing and converged technologies.
Microsoft patents can be found wherever there are cutting-edge products—from PCs and smartphones, to sensor-based devices, to healthcare and industrial automation. We relentlessly seek to drive the future of innovation—for us, our partners, and our customers. We constantly look for opportunities to work with other companies, licensing our technologies and patents to help them innovate and grow.
In short, our heritage of innovation is what enables Microsoft to further its mission of empowering every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/iplicensing/default.aspx
Areas of Innovation
Microsoft is helping our licensing partners shape the future across a range of sectors, fueling the development of exciting new technology.
Mobile & Tablet https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/mobile-tablet.aspx
Personal Wearables https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/wearables.aspx
Connected Car https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/connected-car.aspx
Internet of Things https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/internet-of-things.aspx
Business & Technology Solutions https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/business-technology-solutions.aspx
Microsoft innovation continues to revolutionize how people work, connect, and experience the world—and we license many of our patents and technologies to help other companies grow.
For more than 40 years Microsoft has been making big, bold bets on the future of technology. By investing more than $11 billion in research and development annually, we continue to expand the possibilities of computing and converged technologies.
Microsoft patents can be found wherever there are cutting-edge products—from PCs and smartphones, to sensor-based devices, to healthcare and industrial automation. We relentlessly seek to drive the future of innovation—for us, our partners, and our customers. We constantly look for opportunities to work with other companies, licensing our technologies and patents to help them innovate and grow.
In short, our heritage of innovation is what enables Microsoft to further its mission of empowering every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/iplicensing/default.aspx
Areas of Innovation
Microsoft is helping our licensing partners shape the future across a range of sectors, fueling the development of exciting new technology.
Mobile & Tablet https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/mobile-tablet.aspx
Personal Wearables https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/wearables.aspx
Connected Car https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/connected-car.aspx
Internet of Things https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/internet-of-things.aspx
Business & Technology Solutions https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/business-technology-solutions.aspx
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/iplicensing/default.aspx
6 August 2016 14:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Microsoft is committed to responsible intellectual property management, including the creation of a healthy patent ecosystem around the world that promotes and encourages innovation. One component of a well-functioning patent system is clarity around what entity is the real party in interest for a particular patent. Increased transparency around ownership reduces the likelihood of opportunistic behavior and gamesmanship by patent holders and helps facilitate licensing.
To demonstrate our commitment to transparency, Microsoft joined with other industry leaders in the Open Register of Patent Ownership, or OroPO, in May 2015. Through OroPO, Microsoft provides a list that includes to the best of our knowledge all issued patents that Microsoft currently owns, either directly or through subsidiaries. (This project builds on our legacy Patent Tracker tool, previously established in March 2013, which included a full listing of worldwide issued patents that Microsoft had filed and prosecuted as well as patents that we had acquired over time.)
As Microsoft realigns its core functions we have also realigned our licensing and legal support by forming Microsoft Technology Licensing, LLC. Continuing Microsoft's commitment to transparency, Microsoft Technology Licensing, LLC will continue to make every patent it holds publicly available via OroPO.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/patents/default.aspx?Search=true
To demonstrate our commitment to transparency, Microsoft joined with other industry leaders in the Open Register of Patent Ownership, or OroPO, in May 2015. Through OroPO, Microsoft provides a list that includes to the best of our knowledge all issued patents that Microsoft currently owns, either directly or through subsidiaries. (This project builds on our legacy Patent Tracker tool, previously established in March 2013, which included a full listing of worldwide issued patents that Microsoft had filed and prosecuted as well as patents that we had acquired over time.)
As Microsoft realigns its core functions we have also realigned our licensing and legal support by forming Microsoft Technology Licensing, LLC. Continuing Microsoft's commitment to transparency, Microsoft Technology Licensing, LLC will continue to make every patent it holds publicly available via OroPO.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/patents/default.aspx?Search=true
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6 August 2016 14:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Why drinking increases sexual urges but decreases sexual performance:
Hypothalamus and pituitary: The hypothalamus and pituitary coordinate automatic brain functions and hormone release. Alcohol depresses nerve centers in the hypothalamus that control sexual arousal and performance. Although sexual urge may increase, sexual performance decreases.
Why drinking makes you less inhibited:
Cerebral cortex: In this region, where thought processing and consciousness are centered, alcohol depresses the behavioral inhibitory centers, making the person less inhibited; it slows down the processing of information from the eyes, ears, mouth and other senses; and it inhibits the thought processes, making it difficult to think clearly.
Why drinking makes you sleepy:
Medulla: This area of the brain handles such automatic functions as breathing, consciousness and body temperature. By acting on the medulla, alcohol induces sleepiness. It can also slow breathing and lower body temperature, which can be life threatening.
Why drinking makes you clumsy:
Cerebellum: Alcohol affects this center of movement and balance, resulting in the staggering, off-balance swagger we associate with the so-called “falling-down drunk.”
Hypothalamus and pituitary: The hypothalamus and pituitary coordinate automatic brain functions and hormone release. Alcohol depresses nerve centers in the hypothalamus that control sexual arousal and performance. Although sexual urge may increase, sexual performance decreases.
Why drinking makes you less inhibited:
Cerebral cortex: In this region, where thought processing and consciousness are centered, alcohol depresses the behavioral inhibitory centers, making the person less inhibited; it slows down the processing of information from the eyes, ears, mouth and other senses; and it inhibits the thought processes, making it difficult to think clearly.
Why drinking makes you sleepy:
Medulla: This area of the brain handles such automatic functions as breathing, consciousness and body temperature. By acting on the medulla, alcohol induces sleepiness. It can also slow breathing and lower body temperature, which can be life threatening.
Why drinking makes you clumsy:
Cerebellum: Alcohol affects this center of movement and balance, resulting in the staggering, off-balance swagger we associate with the so-called “falling-down drunk.”
6 August 2016 14:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"An example of an inhibitory neurotransmitter is GABA, which reduces energy levels and calms everything down. Drugs like Xanax and Valium (and other benzodiazopenes) increase GABA production in the brain, resulting in sedation. Alcohol does the same thing by increasing the effects of GABA. This, by the way, is one reason you don’t want to drink alcohol while taking benzodiazopenes; the effects will be amplified, and that can slow your heart rate and respiratory system down to dangerous levels.
So what we just discussed accounts for the depressant effects of alcohol: it suppresses the excitatory neurotransmitter glutamate and increases the inhibitory neurotransmitter GABA. What this means for you is that your thought, speech and movements are slowed down, and the more you drink the more of these effects you’ll feel (hence the stumbling around, falling over chairs and other clumsy things drunk people do)."
"But here’s the twist: alcohol also increases the release of dopamine in your brain’s “reward center.” The reward center is the same combination of brain areas (particularly the ventral striatum) that are affected by virtually all pleasurable activity, including everything from hanging out with friends, going on vacation, getting a big bonus at work, ingesting drugs (like cocaine and crystal meth), and drinking alcohol.
By jacking up dopamine levels in your brain, alcohol tricks you into thinking that it’s actually making you feel great (or maybe just better, if you are drinking to get over something emotionally difficult). The effect is that you keep drinking to get more dopamine release, but at the same time you’re altering other brain chemicals that are enhancing feelings of depression.
Research suggests that alcohol’s affect on dopamine is more significant for men than women, which may account for men drinking more than women on average. According to results from the 2001-2002 National Epidemiologic Survey on Alcohol and Related Conditions (NESARC), alcoholism affects men more than women: About 10 percent of men, compared to 3 to 5 percent of women, become alcoholics over the course of their lifetime.
Over time, with more drinking, the dopamine effect diminishes until it’s almost nonexistent. But at this stage, a drinker is often “hooked” on the feeling of dopamine release in the reward center, even though they’re no longer getting it. Once a compulsive need to go back again and again for that release is established, addiction takes hold. The length of time it takes for this to happen is case-specific; some people have a genetic propensity for alcoholism and for them it will take very little time, while for others it may take several weeks or months."
// See ilusti teaduslikult öeldud, siis veel on plaanid, miks ta meile sedasi antaks,e mis vaimuriigid selle taga on ja miks teda ikkagi antakse sedasi.. ja muid palju kasulikumaid ja ohutumaid asju ei jagata.. aga seda lausa promotakse avalikult.. ei rahas pole ammu anult küsimus, kunagi pole ainult rahas, raha on madal tase, suured tegelased ei tegele rahaga vaid suurtemate viamsete enrgiate ja liigi pervetiseerimise ja orjastamisega, sellisel tasemel inimesed tihti ka ei teeni raha, nad omavad seda, või kasutavad, oma töö jaoks, et lambaid pudeli otsa saada, kes pole suvatsneud mõelda.. mis aksu sellest on
http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2012/10/16/what-alcohol-really-does-to-your-brain/#696a8745413b
So what we just discussed accounts for the depressant effects of alcohol: it suppresses the excitatory neurotransmitter glutamate and increases the inhibitory neurotransmitter GABA. What this means for you is that your thought, speech and movements are slowed down, and the more you drink the more of these effects you’ll feel (hence the stumbling around, falling over chairs and other clumsy things drunk people do)."
"But here’s the twist: alcohol also increases the release of dopamine in your brain’s “reward center.” The reward center is the same combination of brain areas (particularly the ventral striatum) that are affected by virtually all pleasurable activity, including everything from hanging out with friends, going on vacation, getting a big bonus at work, ingesting drugs (like cocaine and crystal meth), and drinking alcohol.
By jacking up dopamine levels in your brain, alcohol tricks you into thinking that it’s actually making you feel great (or maybe just better, if you are drinking to get over something emotionally difficult). The effect is that you keep drinking to get more dopamine release, but at the same time you’re altering other brain chemicals that are enhancing feelings of depression.
Research suggests that alcohol’s affect on dopamine is more significant for men than women, which may account for men drinking more than women on average. According to results from the 2001-2002 National Epidemiologic Survey on Alcohol and Related Conditions (NESARC), alcoholism affects men more than women: About 10 percent of men, compared to 3 to 5 percent of women, become alcoholics over the course of their lifetime.
Over time, with more drinking, the dopamine effect diminishes until it’s almost nonexistent. But at this stage, a drinker is often “hooked” on the feeling of dopamine release in the reward center, even though they’re no longer getting it. Once a compulsive need to go back again and again for that release is established, addiction takes hold. The length of time it takes for this to happen is case-specific; some people have a genetic propensity for alcoholism and for them it will take very little time, while for others it may take several weeks or months."
// See ilusti teaduslikult öeldud, siis veel on plaanid, miks ta meile sedasi antaks,e mis vaimuriigid selle taga on ja miks teda ikkagi antakse sedasi.. ja muid palju kasulikumaid ja ohutumaid asju ei jagata.. aga seda lausa promotakse avalikult.. ei rahas pole ammu anult küsimus, kunagi pole ainult rahas, raha on madal tase, suured tegelased ei tegele rahaga vaid suurtemate viamsete enrgiate ja liigi pervetiseerimise ja orjastamisega, sellisel tasemel inimesed tihti ka ei teeni raha, nad omavad seda, või kasutavad, oma töö jaoks, et lambaid pudeli otsa saada, kes pole suvatsneud mõelda.. mis aksu sellest on
http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2012/10/16/what-alcohol-really-does-to-your-brain/#696a8745413b
http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2012/10/16/what-alcohol-really-does-to-your-brain/#696a8745413b
6 August 2016 14:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/alcohol.htmlAlthough classified as a depressant, the amount of alcohol consumed determines the type of effect. Most people drink for the stimulant effect, such as a beer or glass of wine taken to “loosen up.” But if a person consumes more than the body can handle, they then experience alcohol's depressant effect.
6 August 2016 14:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Näe, ku iviin tasuta teha, siis ei tulnud keegi kraaksuma, aga kui loomapidamis orjusest vabastada, siis inimestel meel turris kohe.. nu uurime seda asja vel
6 August 2016 14:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
millele plaan parandus oli saata
6 August 2016 14:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
(systeemifigade kogumis kaust, lisaks veel mitusada muud märke pilti mujal, vanast ajast, eri süsteemide osas)
6 August 2016 14:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
anytime i choose something like that on my yard over football field or god for shake, the dead stones and ...
6 August 2016 14:08
Margus Meigo replied to Laisy Säde Deming's comment.
Ülit tubli oled!
Vot selliste omadustega naist ma just otsingi, siis teemad ühtivad! Panen kuskile universumisse soovi teele :p
Endal nii ja naa, ootan veel paar kuud siis oskan hinnagut anda, see nagu mäkke ronimine, taaegu tipus ja siis libised alla jälle.. ei hakka enne lopuni jõudmast just vägapalju kirema
Kuid teie seal , hoitke kokku, tublid!
Vot selliste omadustega naist ma just otsingi, siis teemad ühtivad! Panen kuskile universumisse soovi teele :p
Endal nii ja naa, ootan veel paar kuud siis oskan hinnagut anda, see nagu mäkke ronimine, taaegu tipus ja siis libised alla jälle.. ei hakka enne lopuni jõudmast just vägapalju kirema
Kuid teie seal , hoitke kokku, tublid!
6 August 2016 13:49
Margus Meigo replied to Ivar Karm's comment.
Sa muidu kindel soovia eks ?
6 August 2016 13:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
simple, nothing special, but specia
6 August 2016 13:45
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6 August 2016 04:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
täna mingi kahele venekale, üks ukrainane, 50ndates üks päris purjus, räägib et ma zz top, ja siis jõuame hipi teemani ja siis ma räägin et seeni ka ikka söön ja siis naerab ja uurib kas mu lon ja siis ytlen et pole aga näe tahad siin paberil mul psyhdeelikume.. nu pikk jut lyhidalt, siis võtab, pärast viskab maha, hakab ajama, et tal isa kindral (ei joudnud kysidagi kummal pool väge, kas peaksin emotsonaalselt toetama voi..) ja et siis uhkuseg,a et job ainult alkoholi ja värki, et ei vota "narkotiki" .. nu ja siis asus politseid helistama, läks kaua aega kun itelfoni helistamisel pihta sai, andsin nubri ka, 112 kuna pold kindel ta mis see number olema peaks, suures erutuses helistama, nu siis ootan aga ei luba pealt kuulata, et mis siis räägib, saaksin mimega vms aidata, aa küsiski enne nime ka, .. mis lahkelt ütlesin peale seda kui lubas kodumaa politseiabisi kutsuda, nu ja siis ei viitsinud lopuks oodata, pidin bussi peale minema, ja ta ise ka ei tulnd, jäi telefoniga rääkima, sober hyyab teda ja ei tule.. nu jättis sobra ka bussist maha... selle asemel et minna tuppa, sada kaineks, võtta tripp nadalavahetusel ja siis mitte juua monda aega..
ku motlema hakata siis ta vist ärritus selle peale, kui ytlesin et see maeerika tehnoloogia, ja et aint 15 eeku maksab, kugi tegelt tasuta andsin ja tasuta antakse.. lihtslat et umbes ettekujutus oleks, Sobrale andsin ka, molema osa viskas ära.
Nu jah, nii see on, inimestel vaimuilmas kohe rynnaks ja hirm sisse projekteeriutd läbi tvauudiste vahel pandavad ekslusiiv oudsad uusdised kus sisse segavad eriti eliit asja et meelde jääks, muid uku ikoguaeg räägiks siis ju nii ei mõjuks.. koguaeg tasub sele ymbrusest rääkida ja siis eri lainetega irmualined uudistega tehes inimeste ornas psyholoogias... pole lubatud. aga näe tehaks.e. ."suurema hea nimel" arvatakse... nagu Kutseri Pridu kommetarid, mille 1300 lisest päevasest kogusest ta juba uhkustas vist pea 10 või 5 aastattagasi.. millal see oli kui ta positsioni üle võttis
ku motlema hakata siis ta vist ärritus selle peale, kui ytlesin et see maeerika tehnoloogia, ja et aint 15 eeku maksab, kugi tegelt tasuta andsin ja tasuta antakse.. lihtslat et umbes ettekujutus oleks, Sobrale andsin ka, molema osa viskas ära.
Nu jah, nii see on, inimestel vaimuilmas kohe rynnaks ja hirm sisse projekteeriutd läbi tvauudiste vahel pandavad ekslusiiv oudsad uusdised kus sisse segavad eriti eliit asja et meelde jääks, muid uku ikoguaeg räägiks siis ju nii ei mõjuks.. koguaeg tasub sele ymbrusest rääkida ja siis eri lainetega irmualined uudistega tehes inimeste ornas psyholoogias... pole lubatud. aga näe tehaks.e. ."suurema hea nimel" arvatakse... nagu Kutseri Pridu kommetarid, mille 1300 lisest päevasest kogusest ta juba uhkustas vist pea 10 või 5 aastattagasi.. millal see oli kui ta positsioni üle võttis
6 August 2016 03:50
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
Group: Pühakirjast lähtudes.
52290416 August 2016 03:24
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ses osas, ta lahti käib aga väga kolult, .. diivani ülemine osa , kusseti ülemine osa üks on lasnäel ka, ku isee abiks ,aga rohkem midagi mul enda oma pole mida saaksin jagada6 August 2016 03:24
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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kuid pole indel veel kuidas transportida, vb mõtlen välja miskit nädalavahetuseks, ku isaab enne siis anna teada 52290416 August 2016 03:23
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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mulväga logu diivan ja ilma pehme seljatoeta ja ilma asjaliku aseta.. kui üldse polesiis saan selle ära anda..6 August 2016 03:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja mõttetagust
6 August 2016 03:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vahetevahel ma saan isegi labi interneti tunda inimese tujusi
6 August 2016 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Oeh, et siis meeles pidada see valmis kirjutada ja jutuubekas ka, koos sidumis portaaliga
6 August 2016 03:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aga inimesed suhtuvad, nagu see mingi ulme rikka asi oleks, ku ikellegil on isiklik autojuht ja seleks puhuks kenam suurem auto ka võetud, Paari Kolmetuhandese sissetuleku juures (mis on päris kopikad, tava miinimum palk tegelt ju, elatustaseme miinimum, areneneud riikides seaduslikult, alla mille oleks orjapidamine ebainimlik juba, kui vähegi usin ja pyydlik ori on).
et paari kolmetuhandese jurres, on täitsa normaalne ja moistlik vahest ka limusiiniga sõita kui mingi vahest suuremat või olulisemat meeskonda vaja sõidutada. Või oma liinibussiga kenaga.
Igatahes, inimestel paigast ära, et irisevad iga yhe kallal kellel on raha, vaaatamata, kellel on miks ja kuidas ning mis ta veel teeb,
et paari kolmetuhandese jurres, on täitsa normaalne ja moistlik vahest ka limusiiniga sõita kui mingi vahest suuremat või olulisemat meeskonda vaja sõidutada. Või oma liinibussiga kenaga.
Igatahes, inimestel paigast ära, et irisevad iga yhe kallal kellel on raha, vaaatamata, kellel on miks ja kuidas ning mis ta veel teeb,
6 August 2016 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
(no no, nothing revolutionary jet, aga, but might come, if people know well, how to "panna rattad käima")
6 August 2016 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Nad Jack I hire as security on to my primes when time comes
6 August 2016 02:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Rest of it tomorrow,
comments also in some time
comments also in some time
6 August 2016 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(Name #Ubuntu was just for commonizing the version and knowing community direction. The name we will take away from them, and give back later if not needed anymore. It is doable, shaping up silly political and ideological illusions and deliriums what people have made in their eyes between apps and Machines. and between Human Machines )
6 August 2016 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but that is just extra reason, what comes, whit the rest of it,
the company whoa stock price was 666.66 on launch day (they say it is just accident, coincident, or they just like number, not even know it was related to bad numbers potentially in large part of future world), their amphetamine guy did not make it, was not chill enough in thoughts
the company whoa stock price was 666.66 on launch day (they say it is just accident, coincident, or they just like number, not even know it was related to bad numbers potentially in large part of future world), their amphetamine guy did not make it, was not chill enough in thoughts
6 August 2016 02:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and if you not same level, then you have right to stfu, if you plan to question or diss some(from alikes like #billG , he is G, after all, .. G what? Well, g of bill for starters. WHat bill?? Well, the bill what is in your wallet, g, he is g of this bill. Oh..), and u no more then one of the thousand workers, in skill and magnitude what u will have changed, in most, not the thousand others, who can try, but sill have to consider the fact, how many believe, and how many believe in You, in what level, they would do anything for you, how many , and on how many different reasons, how big is your angel wings
6 August 2016 02:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and when considering Bill Gates, he is im many eyes proper Jesus and in even more, possible replacement, and he him self also have to be known about it and bear that, consider it and carry it, as a cross, and can not react in one or another way,, as can not insult the ones who believe.
So when u who ever wanna dis Bill, first consider that, are you on hes level, in magnitude of goods, that can be measured in some other dimension at leas,t what is real also in this worlds in here, and measurable
So when u who ever wanna dis Bill, first consider that, are you on hes level, in magnitude of goods, that can be measured in some other dimension at leas,t what is real also in this worlds in here, and measurable
6 August 2016 02:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but solution is that what is important in the end,
but first will make hardware diil, with old IBM Ch ... to remake software and hardware agreement, on same lodges
but first will make hardware diil, with old IBM Ch ... to remake software and hardware agreement, on same lodges
6 August 2016 02:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
comparing to, when joining potential and mac out other one, and by your self... also, maxing out competitor, and later, the point go so big, that it even would not matter what to take but will take that what is homey, probably
6 August 2016 02:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But yea, the Linux would be soft code, safe heaven, to make Alpha Windows test form, and then rebuild that structure and solutions, in to windows.
But if ya got not this kind of human points as am got, then ... then much less, much much less might come out of it, (but even that less, might seem big for a some time, comparing to )
But if ya got not this kind of human points as am got, then ... then much less, much much less might come out of it, (but even that less, might seem big for a some time, comparing to )
6 August 2016 02:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yea, exactly like that, the words order, to pinpoint the true what I think, not what You want to read what i should have been written to be that what other one from their world point of way assumed me to be in
6 August 2016 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kujutada ette jah, sellised meie meeste kuldsed triiod ja kõige vändamad vennad saavad sellist asja raadios laulda, ja on seaduslik, kuigi seadus on, et:
"§ 18. Narkootilise ja psühhotroopse aine reklaam
(1) Narkootilise ja psühhotroopse aine reklaam on keelatud. Narkootilisi ja psühhotroopseid aineid käsitatakse narkootiliste ja psühhotroopsete ainete ning nende lähteainete seaduse tähenduses.
(2) Narkootiliste ja psühhotroopsete ainete hulka kuuluvaid ravimeid on lubatud reklaamida ravimite väljakirjutamise õigust omavatele isikutele, proviisoritele ja farmatseutidele vastavalt ravimiseaduses sätestatud nõuetele."
https://www.riigiteataja.ee/akt/13061981 2008
https://www.riigiteataja.ee/akt/887049 1997
ehk vanasti lihtsalt.
"§ 17. Narkootilise ja psühhotroopse aine reklaam
Narkootilise või psühhotroopse aine reklaam on keelatud."
..
"Narkootiliste ja psühhotroopsete ainete ning nende lähteainete seadus (lühend - NPALS)" vastu võetud 1997
https://www.riigiteataja.ee/akt/12851752?leiaKehtiv 2005+
( Käesoleva paragrahvi lõikes 1 ettenähtud korras ning komisjoni määruse (EÜ) nr 1277/2005 artiklite 17–19 alusel kogutud informatsioon narkootiliste ja psühhotroopsete ainete ning nende lähteainete kohta edastatakse Rahvusvahelisele Narkootikumide Kontrollinõukogule.
(5) Statistilised andmed narkootiliste, psühhotroopsete ja lähteainete kogukäibe kohta riigis on AVALIKUD. )
( (1) Narkomaaniat ravitakse isiku VABA tahte alusel psühhiaatrilise abi seaduses ettenähtud korras.
(2) Vaimsete häirete tõttu endale või teistele ohtliku narkomaani haiglasse paigutamine tema tahtest olenemata toimub psühhiaatrilist abi reguleerivate õigusaktide kohaselt. )
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" Ettekirjutuse täitmata jätmise korral on asendustäitmise ja sunniraha seaduses sätestatud korras rakendatava sunniraha ülemmäär 1600 eurot. "
- aa keegi on sõltuses, palju tugevamatest asjadest kui alkohol,ja siis paned talle sunnimäära kaela, et ei suuda sõltuvust või depresiooni tagasi hoida v? Ja samal ajal teiste ainete tarbijad...
"§ 18. Narkootilise ja psühhotroopse aine reklaam
(1) Narkootilise ja psühhotroopse aine reklaam on keelatud. Narkootilisi ja psühhotroopseid aineid käsitatakse narkootiliste ja psühhotroopsete ainete ning nende lähteainete seaduse tähenduses.
(2) Narkootiliste ja psühhotroopsete ainete hulka kuuluvaid ravimeid on lubatud reklaamida ravimite väljakirjutamise õigust omavatele isikutele, proviisoritele ja farmatseutidele vastavalt ravimiseaduses sätestatud nõuetele."
https://www.riigiteataja.ee/akt/13061981 2008
https://www.riigiteataja.ee/akt/887049 1997
ehk vanasti lihtsalt.
"§ 17. Narkootilise ja psühhotroopse aine reklaam
Narkootilise või psühhotroopse aine reklaam on keelatud."
..
"Narkootiliste ja psühhotroopsete ainete ning nende lähteainete seadus (lühend - NPALS)" vastu võetud 1997
https://www.riigiteataja.ee/akt/12851752?leiaKehtiv 2005+
( Käesoleva paragrahvi lõikes 1 ettenähtud korras ning komisjoni määruse (EÜ) nr 1277/2005 artiklite 17–19 alusel kogutud informatsioon narkootiliste ja psühhotroopsete ainete ning nende lähteainete kohta edastatakse Rahvusvahelisele Narkootikumide Kontrollinõukogule.
(5) Statistilised andmed narkootiliste, psühhotroopsete ja lähteainete kogukäibe kohta riigis on AVALIKUD. )
( (1) Narkomaaniat ravitakse isiku VABA tahte alusel psühhiaatrilise abi seaduses ettenähtud korras.
(2) Vaimsete häirete tõttu endale või teistele ohtliku narkomaani haiglasse paigutamine tema tahtest olenemata toimub psühhiaatrilist abi reguleerivate õigusaktide kohaselt. )
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" Ettekirjutuse täitmata jätmise korral on asendustäitmise ja sunniraha seaduses sätestatud korras rakendatava sunniraha ülemmäär 1600 eurot. "
- aa keegi on sõltuses, palju tugevamatest asjadest kui alkohol,ja siis paned talle sunnimäära kaela, et ei suuda sõltuvust või depresiooni tagasi hoida v? Ja samal ajal teiste ainete tarbijad...
https://www.riigiteataja.ee/akt/13061981
3 August 2016 15:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mari : see täitsa loetav oli muidu ? : )
3 August 2016 15:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
egama paha pärast , ga kuinii soovitaske ja kaasa lauldakse (näikteks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uVFV2JWCLQ Luara2020 asemel) siis nad ju nii uskunud, mis nad muidu kaasa laulavad.
Maküll laule ei laula mida ma ei usu, milleks
Kui neid on nii palju ilusaid mida uskuda
Maküll laule ei laula mida ma ei usu, milleks
Kui neid on nii palju ilusaid mida uskuda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uVFV2JWCLQ
3 August 2016 13:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
poolikud asjad kokku saavad tihti täiuslikumaks
kuig see ole kaugeltki garnatii
kuid ku iei tea, siis pigem nii kudias on hea,m
ei twagi
06:23
Jah inimesed saavad sellepärast üledoose et öeldakse lsd
Ja vale kogus öeldakse mis blotteril on...
Mõtlevad et standard blotterid 125ug-250ugd panevad 4tk alla noshit et üledoosi saavad...
Sellepärast ongi tänavatelt ostmine ohtlik isegi tellides on saadus 2cb asemel 25inbome pulbrit neil kahe potentsi vahe 30 kordne
11:56
ai, väga valus jah, see nagu Pärnu keiss peaaegu, puupiiritusega.
Inimesed jõid, sest ei tahtnud reaalset elu näha, ja siis imestasid, ja sugulased kurtsid, et kui nad enam ei näinud üksteist... fak olnud ligi koos, siispoleks vaja jooma old hakatagi
kuid mitte selest ma ei tahtnud rääkida
kuig see ole kaugeltki garnatii
kuid ku iei tea, siis pigem nii kudias on hea,m
ei twagi
06:23
Jah inimesed saavad sellepärast üledoose et öeldakse lsd
Ja vale kogus öeldakse mis blotteril on...
Mõtlevad et standard blotterid 125ug-250ugd panevad 4tk alla noshit et üledoosi saavad...
Sellepärast ongi tänavatelt ostmine ohtlik isegi tellides on saadus 2cb asemel 25inbome pulbrit neil kahe potentsi vahe 30 kordne
11:56
ai, väga valus jah, see nagu Pärnu keiss peaaegu, puupiiritusega.
Inimesed jõid, sest ei tahtnud reaalset elu näha, ja siis imestasid, ja sugulased kurtsid, et kui nad enam ei näinud üksteist... fak olnud ligi koos, siispoleks vaja jooma old hakatagi
kuid mitte selest ma ei tahtnud rääkida
3 August 2016 13:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Enne Veel: " Sul mingit veenilaiendit on?
Ma vaatasin et see bromo tõmbab veresooned korralikult kokku
Kakaod või midagi?
nu peaks peale panema v
missisi reeb kui veenid kokku liialt tõõmbab
ega moislti kogus ei peaks eriti tõmbama ju ülearu voi kudias
käed täitsa korras tunduvad uid ml peaks okolaadi olema , ampsan peale
igaks juhuks
ai motlesin, et mul on sokolaadi aga polnutki, loodame, et ema mustikamoos ka aitab
lykab vere kiremini koima vähealt, ehk siis hoiab veenid töös ,kuid heah, hea tähelepanek
mäekltan jah yhel kes oletavalt üle vottis, oli päris raske ollla, käed tahti yhe kuulujutu põhjal ära votta
Käsi on selle pärast amputeeritud
kui yks yke votis jah, räägitakse
eks t ikka sita toxy maitsega, päris tava norm asi pole, kuid saab ka olla valjamoledud jutt
seda veel uurib, kuid tava kogused on tundubud inimestel normid, kuigi osad ikka rägivad, et hirmutav
kuid nad ikka votsid üle 4-5 korra rohkem kui alguses näppima oleks pidanud üldse,
ja segu oleks vb pidnaud tegema, mitte niisama üksinda miskeid kemikalle
poolikud asjad kokku saavad tihti täiuslikumaks
kuig see ole kaugeltki garnatii
kuid ku iei tea, siis pigem nii kudias on hea,m
ei twagi
06:23
Jah inimesed saavad sellepärast üledoose et öeldakse lsd
Ja vale kogus öeldakse mis blotteril on...
Mõtlevad et standard blotterid 125ug-250ugd panevad 4tk alla noshit et üledoosi saavad...
Sellepärast ongi tänavatelt ostmine ohtlik isegi tellides on saadus 2cb asemel 25inbome pulbrit neil kahe potentsi vahe 30 kordne
11:56
ai, väga valus jah, see nagu Pärnu keiss peaaegu, puupiiritusega.
Ma vaatasin et see bromo tõmbab veresooned korralikult kokku
Kakaod või midagi?
nu peaks peale panema v
missisi reeb kui veenid kokku liialt tõõmbab
ega moislti kogus ei peaks eriti tõmbama ju ülearu voi kudias
käed täitsa korras tunduvad uid ml peaks okolaadi olema , ampsan peale
igaks juhuks
ai motlesin, et mul on sokolaadi aga polnutki, loodame, et ema mustikamoos ka aitab

lykab vere kiremini koima vähealt, ehk siis hoiab veenid töös ,kuid heah, hea tähelepanek
mäekltan jah yhel kes oletavalt üle vottis, oli päris raske ollla, käed tahti yhe kuulujutu põhjal ära votta
Käsi on selle pärast amputeeritud
kui yks yke votis jah, räägitakse
eks t ikka sita toxy maitsega, päris tava norm asi pole, kuid saab ka olla valjamoledud jutt
seda veel uurib, kuid tava kogused on tundubud inimestel normid, kuigi osad ikka rägivad, et hirmutav
kuid nad ikka votsid üle 4-5 korra rohkem kui alguses näppima oleks pidanud üldse,
ja segu oleks vb pidnaud tegema, mitte niisama üksinda miskeid kemikalle
poolikud asjad kokku saavad tihti täiuslikumaks
kuig see ole kaugeltki garnatii
kuid ku iei tea, siis pigem nii kudias on hea,m
ei twagi
06:23
Jah inimesed saavad sellepärast üledoose et öeldakse lsd
Ja vale kogus öeldakse mis blotteril on...
Mõtlevad et standard blotterid 125ug-250ugd panevad 4tk alla noshit et üledoosi saavad...
Sellepärast ongi tänavatelt ostmine ohtlik isegi tellides on saadus 2cb asemel 25inbome pulbrit neil kahe potentsi vahe 30 kordne
11:56
ai, väga valus jah, see nagu Pärnu keiss peaaegu, puupiiritusega.
3 August 2016 12:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"siin veel eriti, HQ eiliga, kui sonum enne piisavalt selge polnud,
// et see suur deep tilla-lulla oleks reaalne mida see mees soovis, aga fak, on ta slele läbi mõelnud, kui Nii oleks v? ...nu jah, ks merevesi ka pole hea juua, aga näe veel hullema maitsega viina juukase küll... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZQEPJMJKjA
Enne veel:
// et see suur deep tilla-lulla oleks reaalne mida see mees soovis, aga fak, on ta slele läbi mõelnud, kui Nii oleks v? ...nu jah, ks merevesi ka pole hea juua, aga näe veel hullema maitsega viina juukase küll... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZQEPJMJKjA
Enne veel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZQEPJMJKjA
3 August 2016 12:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui nii hasti edasi laheb siis jua homme varsti joab tööle lähemale
3 August 2016 05:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
peab peale rõõmustama
3 August 2016 05:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
lihtsalt ei saa muud moodi kui et peab rõõmustama
3 August 2016 04:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see ühe korra muutus Armastuseks kud muidu suht sama olnud paar klm aastat, ja enne seda lihtsalt salajane,
ja siiani ,on tõestatd, et inimesed on hea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ioVM0W_ips
ja siiani ,on tõestatd, et inimesed on hea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ioVM0W_ips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ioVM0W_ips
3 August 2016 04:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
st, kui "show more panete" siis näete linki ka mis teema on, blogi osas
3 August 2016 04:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(the one for win 1, that is impossible to shut down easily)
3 August 2016 04:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#sest väga hulle kemikali segusi võib igahetk turuletula, mis märkamatud aju tirpid teevadinimestele.. belaldona dileeriumi yliselgeid reaalsi ja muud iganes, saa pool integreeritult thea.. ku irahavs turvaisi aineid ei opi votma.. ja pruuni suhkrut mispäris jms
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samal ajal kui myyki püüdes vähendada nad proovivad algse firmadetöötajad nii rahata jätta ja nende päris elu kurnata kui saavad, et nad selle produktiga turul ei ärpleks.
Suured firmad otse teiste firma tööliste perede vastu ja töövõimetuse vastu võitlevad, ku isaavad, kui omavad mingit riigi ala seal kus teise firma ala, see lementaarne äri ja arusaadav strateegia räägitakse ärikoolis
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samal ajal kui myyki püüdes vähendada nad proovivad algse firmadetöötajad nii rahata jätta ja nende päris elu kurnata kui saavad, et nad selle produktiga turul ei ärpleks.
Suured firmad otse teiste firma tööliste perede vastu ja töövõimetuse vastu võitlevad, ku isaavad, kui omavad mingit riigi ala seal kus teise firma ala, see lementaarne äri ja arusaadav strateegia räägitakse ärikoolis
3 August 2016 02:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
järgmiseks,
3 August 2016 02:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu see on vähemalt üks teooria, mis kõlab hästi, et rahutuua
3 August 2016 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
isegi magama jäänud kunnid vb iluminaatide vastu pandi valesti, sest ühed tegid õigest ija uinusid valesti samal ajal, nagu teisetki
Ja nii see tekkis,
süüdi ongi lihtsalt see, et molemal samad vead ja head lihtsalt eri muusikaga grupid tekkisid, nagu muusikaga ikka mingid kujundid helile järgnevad liivas, soolast, ja ega siis see kuju mis tuleb, voi see riik, mingi piiritlevus pole ainult, ilmtingimata selleprast, et ta olemas on, tuleb ikka vaadata ka kas on päris piir või mingi virvendus
Ja nii see tekkis,
süüdi ongi lihtsalt see, et molemal samad vead ja head lihtsalt eri muusikaga grupid tekkisid, nagu muusikaga ikka mingid kujundid helile järgnevad liivas, soolast, ja ega siis see kuju mis tuleb, voi see riik, mingi piiritlevus pole ainult, ilmtingimata selleprast, et ta olemas on, tuleb ikka vaadata ka kas on päris piir või mingi virvendus
3 August 2016 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kas'si
3 August 2016 01:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja kolm punkti enne või pärast
3 August 2016 01:41
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
sellist asja nagu satanismi pole isegi olemas, see mingi grupi inimeste luulu kes tulnukate ja vaimude käest peeruvahele saavad
2 August 2016 23:12
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
pole mõtetelementaarset vastupidiseks keerata
see isegi ei kõla naljakalt
see isegi ei kõla naljakalt
2 August 2016 23:11
Margus Meigo commented on Asko Tekku's post.
valus
2 August 2016 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on Asko Tekku's post.
irww
2 August 2016 23:08
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kus laps kynkale viidi, ohverduseks. .see oli ka elementaarne mehe mõistuse kontroll, mitte mingi pold see mees suur hea usklik, et oma last ohverdama läks... ta oleks pidanud siis koos oma lapsega ennast ohverdama kui päris armastuses oleks olnud.
Muidugi ku ilaps päriselt vanemate vastane on , siis tasub vist ja kivadega surnuks vista või sohu parem viia, selle asemel, et lasta saatanal üles kasvada ja veel väärastumaid lapsi tootma hakata kes oma maa ka veel maha takkaotsa parseldavad
Muidugi ku ilaps päriselt vanemate vastane on , siis tasub vist ja kivadega surnuks vista või sohu parem viia, selle asemel, et lasta saatanal üles kasvada ja veel väärastumaid lapsi tootma hakata kes oma maa ka veel maha takkaotsa parseldavad
2 August 2016 20:42
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
jah, selleläbi inimesed aru saavatki, et mida inimesed olid igast luulude ja hääle mõjul nõus tegema keda jumalaks pidasid.
See on väga mitmekihine tekst, kus onantud, kuidas olema peab ja siis kirjeldab kuidas need "suur usulikud" kes siis rava nimes jumala eelistatud olid, käitusid ja mida nad sõid.
Piibli peale vist paar head meest oli peategelastest,
Enamuste elu ja detailid on SELLEKS kirja pandud, et me näeksime, KES nad olid ja millised.. ja miks nad püsima ei jääänud ega ei tohi jääda..
See on väga mitmekihine tekst, kus onantud, kuidas olema peab ja siis kirjeldab kuidas need "suur usulikud" kes siis rava nimes jumala eelistatud olid, käitusid ja mida nad sõid.
Piibli peale vist paar head meest oli peategelastest,
Enamuste elu ja detailid on SELLEKS kirja pandud, et me näeksime, KES nad olid ja millised.. ja miks nad püsima ei jääänud ega ei tohi jääda..
2 August 2016 20:41
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
inimesed kipuvad nagu unustama mis pederastia süsteemi rist purustas, mis oli nende enda arvates mitme planeetide vaheline lõplik dominatsioon,
muidugi nüüd ei ole ei see ega teine,kuid vähemalt, pole see mis veelgi hullem oleks ja on lootust, saada paremaks. Sest juba viivitatud aega, et juurutada inimestesse mis elementaarne normaalsus on,
muidugi see nõrga spermaga tehtudinimestel ja tikkkontsadel blondeeritutel kipub jube kiiresti ja kergesti kaduma ilma solvanguta.. lihtsalt tehnoloogia on selline, biolooogia on selline, teadvus ja teine toimed ja mis teilt ära lõigatud on, toimivad selliselt sellises olukorras
muidugi nüüd ei ole ei see ega teine,kuid vähemalt, pole see mis veelgi hullem oleks ja on lootust, saada paremaks. Sest juba viivitatud aega, et juurutada inimestesse mis elementaarne normaalsus on,
muidugi see nõrga spermaga tehtudinimestel ja tikkkontsadel blondeeritutel kipub jube kiiresti ja kergesti kaduma ilma solvanguta.. lihtsalt tehnoloogia on selline, biolooogia on selline, teadvus ja teine toimed ja mis teilt ära lõigatud on, toimivad selliselt sellises olukorras
2 August 2016 18:56
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ei ole ei kotkad, roomlased ega prantslased kuskile läinud
hea on, veel et ristid selle kõige vahel, muidu oleks laste vereohverdused avalik tavaline norm otseeetris
hea on, veel et ristid selle kõige vahel, muidu oleks laste vereohverdused avalik tavaline norm otseeetris
2 August 2016 18:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"this is what they say, this is what they say"
But yea, other ironic point is to take conspiracy info about Freemasons from Freemason historian
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it is better to understand, what to do in here. and first start to respect powers to be
But yea, other ironic point is to take conspiracy info about Freemasons from Freemason historian
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it is better to understand, what to do in here. and first start to respect powers to be
2 August 2016 18:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 August 2016 18:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Moreover, nowhere is Rothschild is mentioned in the confiscated correspondences from the Illuminati and he's definitely not on any of the lists of members. Historians would not have suppressed it if he were a member, or even if he had significant association with the Order.
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" through the 18th Century
both the Bavarian Illuminati and Freemasonry
strictly forbid Jews from joining"
. did you mean /practicing/ Jews?
I was under the impression that Weishaupt,
founder of Bavarian Illuminati and a member of Freemasonry
was himself of Jewish ancestry .
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hat is something often claimed but there is no evidence for it.
Most Jews don't really practice their Faith, doesn't stop the discrimination they face. Anti-Semitisism isn't about their Religion
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" through the 18th Century
both the Bavarian Illuminati and Freemasonry
strictly forbid Jews from joining"
. did you mean /practicing/ Jews?
I was under the impression that Weishaupt,
founder of Bavarian Illuminati and a member of Freemasonry
was himself of Jewish ancestry .
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hat is something often claimed but there is no evidence for it.
Most Jews don't really practice their Faith, doesn't stop the discrimination they face. Anti-Semitisism isn't about their Religion
2 August 2016 18:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oh and:
" Mayer Rothschild did not create the Bavarian Illuminati
One of the most persistent myths about the origin of the Illuminati you frequently see being repeated online without any source is a claim that Weishaupt was recruited to form the Illuminati by Mayer Amschel Rothschild.
The story goes that either in 1770 or 1773 Rothschild presented Weishaupt at a meeting to 12 unidentified business partners.
The facts are that Mayer Rothschild was still pretty small potatoes when the Illuminati was founded in 1776, just a local business man in Frankfurt. No conceivable way he could have had influence over anyone at Ingolstadt university. It was following the French Revolution that his business really began to take off. And not till the 19th Century he truly became an International Banker.
Also all through the 18th Century both the Bavarian Illuminati and Freemasonry strictly forbid Jews from joining.
His tenuous connection to the Illuminati is through Wilhelm IX of Hesse-Kassel, he was patronaged by him since the 1760s and eventually became his main Banker. Wilhelm himself is not known to have been either Illuminati or a Mason. But his brother Karl Langrave of Hesse-Kassel was the number two man in German Freemasonry and the Strict Observance Rite. And among the former Strict Observance members who joined the Illuminati after the Masonic Congress at Wilhelmsbad in 1782. He'll be a subject of future posts of this blog.
There is one other connection, Baron Karl Theodor Dalberg (1744-1817)
The Rothschilds certainly became part of the elite over time. But they didn't start it"
" Mayer Rothschild did not create the Bavarian Illuminati
One of the most persistent myths about the origin of the Illuminati you frequently see being repeated online without any source is a claim that Weishaupt was recruited to form the Illuminati by Mayer Amschel Rothschild.
The story goes that either in 1770 or 1773 Rothschild presented Weishaupt at a meeting to 12 unidentified business partners.
The facts are that Mayer Rothschild was still pretty small potatoes when the Illuminati was founded in 1776, just a local business man in Frankfurt. No conceivable way he could have had influence over anyone at Ingolstadt university. It was following the French Revolution that his business really began to take off. And not till the 19th Century he truly became an International Banker.
Also all through the 18th Century both the Bavarian Illuminati and Freemasonry strictly forbid Jews from joining.
His tenuous connection to the Illuminati is through Wilhelm IX of Hesse-Kassel, he was patronaged by him since the 1760s and eventually became his main Banker. Wilhelm himself is not known to have been either Illuminati or a Mason. But his brother Karl Langrave of Hesse-Kassel was the number two man in German Freemasonry and the Strict Observance Rite. And among the former Strict Observance members who joined the Illuminati after the Masonic Congress at Wilhelmsbad in 1782. He'll be a subject of future posts of this blog.
There is one other connection, Baron Karl Theodor Dalberg (1744-1817)
The Rothschilds certainly became part of the elite over time. But they didn't start it"
2 August 2016 18:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
the one who initiated Peruu native people last sterilization campaigning locally, his child was a main candidate for presidency this year
2 August 2016 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
It turns out that the male howler monkeys that shout the loudest are compensating for something. Exactly what that is requires a rather delicate explanation. It's sexual in nature.
Let's just say big howls used to lure mates come with small packages. Namely, the scrotum. It's smaller and makes less semen, according to a study released Thursday by the University of Cambridge.
"The bigger a male howler's vocal organ, and the deeper and more imposing roar they possess, the smaller their testes and the less sperm they produce," the study authors found.
So female howler monkeys beware: Some suitors have a Napoleon complex of sorts. Their magnificent audibles write checks that their bodies can't cash
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2015/10/22/when-it-comes-to-sex-the-loudest-male-howler-monkeys-dont-have-much-to-shout-about-heres-why/?tid=a_inl
Let's just say big howls used to lure mates come with small packages. Namely, the scrotum. It's smaller and makes less semen, according to a study released Thursday by the University of Cambridge.
"The bigger a male howler's vocal organ, and the deeper and more imposing roar they possess, the smaller their testes and the less sperm they produce," the study authors found.
So female howler monkeys beware: Some suitors have a Napoleon complex of sorts. Their magnificent audibles write checks that their bodies can't cash
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2015/10/22/when-it-comes-to-sex-the-loudest-male-howler-monkeys-dont-have-much-to-shout-about-heres-why/?tid=a_inl
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2015/10/22/when-it-comes-to-sex-the-loudest-male-howler-monkeys-dont-have-much-to-shout-about-heres-why/?tid=a_inl
2 August 2016 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Although the insect looks fragile, like most bugs it clings to existence more ferociously than mammals. If butterflies are going extinct, “it’s a strong indicator that we’re messing up the environment around us,” Robbins said.
Numerous animals such as Carolina parakeets and passenger pigeons have vanished, but butterflies have been known to disappear in one place and show up in another, which is why the Fish and Wildlife Service waited at least a decade to announce the extinction of the skippers.
The last confirmed extinction of a butterfly species was of the blueberry-colored Xerces blue, which disappeared from San Francisco sand dunes that were commercially developed, Robbins said.
Like all flora and fauna, humans stand to gain a lot from the presence of a butterfly species — a possible medical breakthrough from study and biomedical research, for example, Robbins said. But he sees a bigger picture.
When an entire line dies off, “it’s a report card on the health of the environment around us,” Robbins said. “We depend on fresh air and food that isn’t full of chemicals. I think that’s a more important aspect than maybe we would’ve discovered a gene that would’ve cured some disease. It’s our general survival.”
Eighty percent of food crops are pollinated by insects such as bees, moths and butterflies, according to scientists. Nearly a third of the nation’s honeybees have disappeared, and scientists theorize that pesticide use is a contributing factor in their decline.
It’s not that butterflies will be wiped off the face of the Earth anytime soon. There are 650 to 750 species in the United States and slightly fewer than 20,000 species worldwide. Peru has a quarter of those, and species explode in tropical areas such as the Caribbean. But their estimated decline is rapid and troubling in the United States.
//yea, Peruu is the place where they forcefully stralized nearly all the remining acient natives, up to 450 000 between last forced strilization campaing tht was on 1995 up to 2000
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/butterfly-decline-signals-trouble-in-environment/2013/06/30/b86b8cf4-da8c-11e2-a9f2-42ee3912ae0e_story.html
Numerous animals such as Carolina parakeets and passenger pigeons have vanished, but butterflies have been known to disappear in one place and show up in another, which is why the Fish and Wildlife Service waited at least a decade to announce the extinction of the skippers.
The last confirmed extinction of a butterfly species was of the blueberry-colored Xerces blue, which disappeared from San Francisco sand dunes that were commercially developed, Robbins said.
Like all flora and fauna, humans stand to gain a lot from the presence of a butterfly species — a possible medical breakthrough from study and biomedical research, for example, Robbins said. But he sees a bigger picture.
When an entire line dies off, “it’s a report card on the health of the environment around us,” Robbins said. “We depend on fresh air and food that isn’t full of chemicals. I think that’s a more important aspect than maybe we would’ve discovered a gene that would’ve cured some disease. It’s our general survival.”
Eighty percent of food crops are pollinated by insects such as bees, moths and butterflies, according to scientists. Nearly a third of the nation’s honeybees have disappeared, and scientists theorize that pesticide use is a contributing factor in their decline.
It’s not that butterflies will be wiped off the face of the Earth anytime soon. There are 650 to 750 species in the United States and slightly fewer than 20,000 species worldwide. Peru has a quarter of those, and species explode in tropical areas such as the Caribbean. But their estimated decline is rapid and troubling in the United States.
//yea, Peruu is the place where they forcefully stralized nearly all the remining acient natives, up to 450 000 between last forced strilization campaing tht was on 1995 up to 2000
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/butterfly-decline-signals-trouble-in-environment/2013/06/30/b86b8cf4-da8c-11e2-a9f2-42ee3912ae0e_story.html
2 August 2016 18:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/03/24/marylands-honeybees-are-being-massacred-and-the-weapon-might-be-in-your-house/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/03/24/marylands-honeybees-are-being-massacred-and-the-weapon-might-be-in-your-house/
2 August 2016 18:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/02/09/the-monarch-massacre-nearly-a-billion-butterflies-have-vanished/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/02/09/the-monarch-massacre-nearly-a-billion-butterflies-have-vanished/
2 August 2016 18:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
In 1139 Pope Innocent issued a bull placing the Templars under an exclusive vow of papal obedience - a measure by which Aimeric effectively put all Templar resources at the disposal of the papacy. As their list of properties lengthened with donations from Italy, Austria, Germany, Hungary and the Holy Land, the Templars built hundreds of stone castles. Convinced they were building a new world, the Templars called each other frère maçon (brother mason). Later this was anglicized into Freemason.
Finally, on Friday, October 13, 1307, King Philip of France arrested all but thirteen of the Templars in France, tried them and, upon evidence of their practice of the cabalah, found them guilty of blasphemy and magic. At least fifty knights were burned at the stake.
A subtle provision in the Vox clamantis transferred most of the Templar estates to the Knights of St. John of Jerusalem, who took possesion after King Philip's death. In Germany and Austria, the Templars became "Rosicrucians" and "Teutonic Knights." The Teutonic Knights grew strong in Mainz, birthplace of Guetenberg's press. Six centuries later, as the "Teutonic Order," the Knights would provide the nucleus of Adolf Hitler's political support in Munich and Vienna.
http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-118253-page-3.html
The Edinburgh lodge would become the headquarters of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, which Masonic historians call "American Freemasonry" because all but five of the signers of the Declaration of Independence are said to have practiced its craft. In Spain and Portugal the Templars became the "Illuminati", and the "Knights of Christ." It was under the red pattée cross of the Knights of Christ that Columbus had taken possession of what he called "las Indias" for King Ferdinand V of Spain, the Holy Roman Emperor. (Tupper Saussy, Rulers of Evil, pp.39-40)
http://www.archive.org/details/FreemasonTemplars
Illuminati - 666
http://www.benabraham.com/html/illuminati_-_666.html
Finally, on Friday, October 13, 1307, King Philip of France arrested all but thirteen of the Templars in France, tried them and, upon evidence of their practice of the cabalah, found them guilty of blasphemy and magic. At least fifty knights were burned at the stake.
A subtle provision in the Vox clamantis transferred most of the Templar estates to the Knights of St. John of Jerusalem, who took possesion after King Philip's death. In Germany and Austria, the Templars became "Rosicrucians" and "Teutonic Knights." The Teutonic Knights grew strong in Mainz, birthplace of Guetenberg's press. Six centuries later, as the "Teutonic Order," the Knights would provide the nucleus of Adolf Hitler's political support in Munich and Vienna.
http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-118253-page-3.html
The Edinburgh lodge would become the headquarters of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, which Masonic historians call "American Freemasonry" because all but five of the signers of the Declaration of Independence are said to have practiced its craft. In Spain and Portugal the Templars became the "Illuminati", and the "Knights of Christ." It was under the red pattée cross of the Knights of Christ that Columbus had taken possession of what he called "las Indias" for King Ferdinand V of Spain, the Holy Roman Emperor. (Tupper Saussy, Rulers of Evil, pp.39-40)
http://www.archive.org/details/FreemasonTemplars
Illuminati - 666
http://www.benabraham.com/html/illuminati_-_666.html
2 August 2016 18:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
On 1 May 1776 Adam Weishaupt formed the "Order of Perfectibilists". He adopted the name of "Brother Spartacus" within the order. Though the Order was not egalitarian or democratic, its mission was the abolition of all monarchical governments and state religions in Europe and its colonies.
Weishaupt was initiated into the Masonic Lodge "Theodor zum guten Rath", at Munich in 1777. His project of "illumination, enlightening the understanding by the sun of reason, which will dispel the clouds of superstition and of prejudice" was an unwelcome reform. Soon however he had developed gnostic mysteries of his own, with the goal of "perfecting human" nature through re-education to achieve a communal state with nature, freed of government and organized religion. He began working towards incorporating his system of Illuminism with that of Freemasonry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Weishaupt
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07661b.htm
ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA, 1911 11th Edition
http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Illuminati
http://encyclopedia.jrank.org/I27_INV/ILLUMINATI_Lat_illuminare_.html
ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA, 1902 9th Edition
http://www.1902encyclopedia.com/I/ILL/illuminati.html
1828 Webster's Dictionary
http://1828.mshaffer.com/d/word/illuminati
George Washington, letter, October, 1798
http://memory.loc.gov/mss/mgw/mgw2/021/2010195.jpg
Thomas Jefferson, letter, Jan, 1800
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Weishaupt#cite_note-memory.loc.gov-20
As the Jesuits were suppressed from 1773 to 1814 as the Illuminati they organized revolutions with the Freemasons. Having caused the American and French revolutions they next created the upper degrees of Freemasonry after the warrior Military Order of the Catholic Church, the Templar Knights.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_order
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10304d.htm
Freemason historian Albert Mackey admits the degrees were written at that time by the Jesuit/Illuminati modeled on the Templars.
http://encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com/c/clermont-chapter-of
http://encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com/j/jesuits
http://encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com/p/perfection-rite-of
http://encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com/s/scottish-rite
Jesuit washed history textbooks and films have deceived many. This is why they run many universities educating leaders of nations. Washington DC was founded by the Freemasons and Jesuits in the Catholic colony Maryland and that is who still runs it today!
With the US Civil War (1860) they took the states having been previously limited in jurisdiction to DC. With the Protestant governed states no longer standing in the way the Union of the Americas (1889) was founded, headquartered in Washington DC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_American_States
The first of many regional unions to follow.
Next, they founded the Federal Reserve central bank (1913) and roundtables: the CFR in NYC and RIIA in London (1920). The main people involved here were Freemasons: Warburg, Rockefeller, Rhodes and Rothschild.
After staging the Russian Revolution (1913) the conspiracy moved into China (1921).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkLd9ESpDcQ
After WW 1 & 2 the CFR founded the United Nations on land donated by the Rockefellers.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/rockefellers/maps/textmap.html#unhq
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a10MD-h3ro8
They founded the state of Israel for the Jesuits' grand endtime Christian deception.
http://www.reformation.org/mideast_crisis.html
Their declaration of a new world order (NWO) is on the back of the US Dollar. This NWO replaced the old world-holy roman empire.
Weishaupt was initiated into the Masonic Lodge "Theodor zum guten Rath", at Munich in 1777. His project of "illumination, enlightening the understanding by the sun of reason, which will dispel the clouds of superstition and of prejudice" was an unwelcome reform. Soon however he had developed gnostic mysteries of his own, with the goal of "perfecting human" nature through re-education to achieve a communal state with nature, freed of government and organized religion. He began working towards incorporating his system of Illuminism with that of Freemasonry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Weishaupt
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07661b.htm
ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA, 1911 11th Edition
http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Illuminati
http://encyclopedia.jrank.org/I27_INV/ILLUMINATI_Lat_illuminare_.html
ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA, 1902 9th Edition
http://www.1902encyclopedia.com/I/ILL/illuminati.html
1828 Webster's Dictionary
http://1828.mshaffer.com/d/word/illuminati
George Washington, letter, October, 1798
http://memory.loc.gov/mss/mgw/mgw2/021/2010195.jpg
Thomas Jefferson, letter, Jan, 1800
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Weishaupt#cite_note-memory.loc.gov-20
As the Jesuits were suppressed from 1773 to 1814 as the Illuminati they organized revolutions with the Freemasons. Having caused the American and French revolutions they next created the upper degrees of Freemasonry after the warrior Military Order of the Catholic Church, the Templar Knights.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_order
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10304d.htm
Freemason historian Albert Mackey admits the degrees were written at that time by the Jesuit/Illuminati modeled on the Templars.
http://encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com/c/clermont-chapter-of
http://encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com/j/jesuits
http://encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com/p/perfection-rite-of
http://encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com/s/scottish-rite
Jesuit washed history textbooks and films have deceived many. This is why they run many universities educating leaders of nations. Washington DC was founded by the Freemasons and Jesuits in the Catholic colony Maryland and that is who still runs it today!
With the US Civil War (1860) they took the states having been previously limited in jurisdiction to DC. With the Protestant governed states no longer standing in the way the Union of the Americas (1889) was founded, headquartered in Washington DC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_American_States
The first of many regional unions to follow.
Next, they founded the Federal Reserve central bank (1913) and roundtables: the CFR in NYC and RIIA in London (1920). The main people involved here were Freemasons: Warburg, Rockefeller, Rhodes and Rothschild.
After staging the Russian Revolution (1913) the conspiracy moved into China (1921).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkLd9ESpDcQ
After WW 1 & 2 the CFR founded the United Nations on land donated by the Rockefellers.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/rockefellers/maps/textmap.html#unhq
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a10MD-h3ro8
They founded the state of Israel for the Jesuits' grand endtime Christian deception.
http://www.reformation.org/mideast_crisis.html
Their declaration of a new world order (NWO) is on the back of the US Dollar. This NWO replaced the old world-holy roman empire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Weishaupt
2 August 2016 18:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.archive.org/details/OriginsOfTheConspiracy
"Knight of Malta Rothschilds. Guardians of the papal treasure. Just the red shield.
Look up the name Pallavinci. Jesuit bankers who make the Rothschilds look like saints.
It's not called Club of Rome for no reason ya know..."
and some people wonder if:
"..And that article didn't mention the fella named Lanz, who was the courier taking the Bavarian Illuminati papers translated by Zwack to France, when he was struck by lightning near Regensburg and killed (his horse as well).
The elector of Bavaria, Karl Theodor von Dalberg, was given the documents, raided Weishaupt's and associates residences, and realized the papers were legitimate.
von Dalberg notified heads of church and state in EVERY country in Europe, including Russia.
The Tsar shot down the Zionists' first attempt at a "League of Nations", due to von Dalberg's warnings about these people.
In 1917, the Illuminati Zionists got their revenge on the Tsar, when they massacred the entire Romanov family and took over."
" The only places they don't fully control is Africa as it emerges into the industrial world and some parts of the middle east."
"Right now, I'm really interested in the connection between Yarker, Reuss and Crowley and the OTO/Occultic "Illuminati" -- whether they are a branck of the original "Illuminati" or a more recent phenomenon."
"they have consolidated everything, they run the big corporations via investment firms / venture capital
How else would they get so powerful without having the control of the public market via their PRIVATE monopoly control over the issuance of currency (world reserve) U.S. dollar via their Central Banks
if you have the power to loan yourself billions, of course you can buy up all the ownership in the marketplace"
"Just don't forget this fact...
"Rothschild" was just a pseudonym. Mayer Amschel Bauerberg adopted the name (for reasons I do not know but are probably rather obvious) by using the 'red shield' that was hanging outside his father's silversmith shop in Frankfurt Germany... "red shield" in german is "roth schild". He also went by "Bauer" around Frankfurt, but dropped the "berg" suffix. His sons that he sent to major cities around Europe to start their Central Banking fractional reserve system appear to have used the Rothschild surname.
Point is... these people can, and do, change their names... obviously to hide the links to their past and/or cover their tracks over the years.
Makes it very difficult to establish the facts in this convoluted tale of evil personified."
"If you look at who were reputed to have formed the Illuminati, Adam Weishaupt and his two friends these people are the Banking cartel today through associations of marriage [the ties that bind] these people have come to dominate the business and banking scenes as well as being able to control the Political scene and they have massive ties to Big Industry."
" This sounds about as plausible as Jesus being born of virgin birth and returning to life 3 days after his mortal death."
"Stop with the Jesuit BS. Its just a tribe lie to deflect blame from them. The Austrian-Hungarian empire under the Hapsburgs kept the tribe in the ghettos. The tribe financed the French Revolution and Napolean to help destroy the empire. Nuff said."
"The Rothschilds changed their name to that of the red-shield of the Templars who have always ran the empire for the Vatican.
The Rothschilds are Famous Freemasons today and barons from the days of Holy Rome's empire.
The Rothschild family are Freemason-Templar bankers. "Nathan and James, were members of the Emulation Lodge, London.
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/List-of-famous-Freemasons#Industrialists_and_Labor_Leaders
" "In 1818, he was granted noble status (Freiherr or Baron) by the Emperor of Austria, although he chose not to use his aristocratic title Nathan Mayer, Freiherr von Rothschild."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Mayer_Rothschild#Life
"Barons (Knights) who received their title from the Holy Roman Emperor are known as Barons of the Holy Roman Empire, Reichsfreiherr, although the title is sometimes shortened to Freiherr."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freiherr
His wife should know?
transcript:
LYNN FORESTER DE ROTHSCHILD, wife of (sir) EVELYN, interview on CNN by Wolf Blitzer
DE ROTHSCHILD: "It is true, I am married to a wonderful, wonderful man whose name is de Rothschild."
BLITZER: "And he's a baron."
DE ROTHSCHILD: "He's a knight."
BLITZER: "He's a knight, OK."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/17/sitroom.02.html
The Knights have always ran the Vatican's empire..
"Rothschilds (...) are the guardians of the papal treasure."
-Encyclopedia Judaica
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=445&letter=R#1259
" The Jesuit's empire has a Catholic wing and a non Catholic wing, as Military Knights all answer to the Jesuit General by chain-of-command. The Catholics belong to the Knights of Malta or Columbus or numerous other Catholic orders under the Jesuit's control. The non Catholics belong to the Freemasons.
The Freemasons were founded by the Knights Templar and the Jesuits who wrote the degrees creating Freemasonry, according to Freemason Grand Master and historian Albert Mackey. (Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, four entries: 1.CLERMONT COLLEGE 2.Jesuits 3.PERFECTION RITE 4.SCOTTISH RITE) "
http://encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com/c/clermont-chapter-of
http://encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com/j/jesuits
http://encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com/p/perfection-rite-of
http://encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com/s/scottish-rite
History of the Knights Templar-Freemasons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc6w0Ae0WWc
http://www.archive.org/details/FreemasonTemplars
Origins of the Conspiracy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7sW-HGKp7U
"Knight of Malta Rothschilds. Guardians of the papal treasure. Just the red shield.
Look up the name Pallavinci. Jesuit bankers who make the Rothschilds look like saints.
It's not called Club of Rome for no reason ya know..."
and some people wonder if:
"..And that article didn't mention the fella named Lanz, who was the courier taking the Bavarian Illuminati papers translated by Zwack to France, when he was struck by lightning near Regensburg and killed (his horse as well).
The elector of Bavaria, Karl Theodor von Dalberg, was given the documents, raided Weishaupt's and associates residences, and realized the papers were legitimate.
von Dalberg notified heads of church and state in EVERY country in Europe, including Russia.
The Tsar shot down the Zionists' first attempt at a "League of Nations", due to von Dalberg's warnings about these people.
In 1917, the Illuminati Zionists got their revenge on the Tsar, when they massacred the entire Romanov family and took over."
" The only places they don't fully control is Africa as it emerges into the industrial world and some parts of the middle east."
"Right now, I'm really interested in the connection between Yarker, Reuss and Crowley and the OTO/Occultic "Illuminati" -- whether they are a branck of the original "Illuminati" or a more recent phenomenon."
"they have consolidated everything, they run the big corporations via investment firms / venture capital
How else would they get so powerful without having the control of the public market via their PRIVATE monopoly control over the issuance of currency (world reserve) U.S. dollar via their Central Banks
if you have the power to loan yourself billions, of course you can buy up all the ownership in the marketplace"
"Just don't forget this fact...
"Rothschild" was just a pseudonym. Mayer Amschel Bauerberg adopted the name (for reasons I do not know but are probably rather obvious) by using the 'red shield' that was hanging outside his father's silversmith shop in Frankfurt Germany... "red shield" in german is "roth schild". He also went by "Bauer" around Frankfurt, but dropped the "berg" suffix. His sons that he sent to major cities around Europe to start their Central Banking fractional reserve system appear to have used the Rothschild surname.
Point is... these people can, and do, change their names... obviously to hide the links to their past and/or cover their tracks over the years.
Makes it very difficult to establish the facts in this convoluted tale of evil personified."
"If you look at who were reputed to have formed the Illuminati, Adam Weishaupt and his two friends these people are the Banking cartel today through associations of marriage [the ties that bind] these people have come to dominate the business and banking scenes as well as being able to control the Political scene and they have massive ties to Big Industry."
" This sounds about as plausible as Jesus being born of virgin birth and returning to life 3 days after his mortal death."
"Stop with the Jesuit BS. Its just a tribe lie to deflect blame from them. The Austrian-Hungarian empire under the Hapsburgs kept the tribe in the ghettos. The tribe financed the French Revolution and Napolean to help destroy the empire. Nuff said."
"The Rothschilds changed their name to that of the red-shield of the Templars who have always ran the empire for the Vatican.
The Rothschilds are Famous Freemasons today and barons from the days of Holy Rome's empire.
The Rothschild family are Freemason-Templar bankers. "Nathan and James, were members of the Emulation Lodge, London.
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/List-of-famous-Freemasons#Industrialists_and_Labor_Leaders
" "In 1818, he was granted noble status (Freiherr or Baron) by the Emperor of Austria, although he chose not to use his aristocratic title Nathan Mayer, Freiherr von Rothschild."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Mayer_Rothschild#Life
"Barons (Knights) who received their title from the Holy Roman Emperor are known as Barons of the Holy Roman Empire, Reichsfreiherr, although the title is sometimes shortened to Freiherr."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freiherr
His wife should know?
transcript:
LYNN FORESTER DE ROTHSCHILD, wife of (sir) EVELYN, interview on CNN by Wolf Blitzer
DE ROTHSCHILD: "It is true, I am married to a wonderful, wonderful man whose name is de Rothschild."
BLITZER: "And he's a baron."
DE ROTHSCHILD: "He's a knight."
BLITZER: "He's a knight, OK."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/17/sitroom.02.html
The Knights have always ran the Vatican's empire..
"Rothschilds (...) are the guardians of the papal treasure."
-Encyclopedia Judaica
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=445&letter=R#1259
" The Jesuit's empire has a Catholic wing and a non Catholic wing, as Military Knights all answer to the Jesuit General by chain-of-command. The Catholics belong to the Knights of Malta or Columbus or numerous other Catholic orders under the Jesuit's control. The non Catholics belong to the Freemasons.
The Freemasons were founded by the Knights Templar and the Jesuits who wrote the degrees creating Freemasonry, according to Freemason Grand Master and historian Albert Mackey. (Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, four entries: 1.CLERMONT COLLEGE 2.Jesuits 3.PERFECTION RITE 4.SCOTTISH RITE) "
http://encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com/c/clermont-chapter-of
http://encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com/j/jesuits
http://encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com/p/perfection-rite-of
http://encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com/s/scottish-rite
History of the Knights Templar-Freemasons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc6w0Ae0WWc
http://www.archive.org/details/FreemasonTemplars
Origins of the Conspiracy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7sW-HGKp7U
http://www.archive.org/details/OriginsOfTheConspiracy
2 August 2016 18:07
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Groups Claiming to Inherit the Mantle of the Illuminati
Following the prohibition of the Order of Perfectibilists, several occult secret societies claimed to have inherited its mantle and to be carrying on its work. These included the Society of Illuminists founded in Avignon in the late 1780s by the unlikely partnership of an excommunicated Catholic priest and a Polish count. It later changed its name to the Academy of True Free Masons when it moved its headquarters from Avignon to Montpelier. Although it is rumoured the group still existed in 1812, it actually stopped functioning during the French Revolution and the Reign of Terror that followed it.
The Concordists were a Russian secret society founded around 1790 as the alleged successor of the Bavarian Illuminati. They were suppressed in turn in the early 1800s by the Russian government who outlawed them as a subversive political organisation. In the early 1900s a journalist and spy for the Prussian secret police called Albert Karl Theodor Reuss (1855–1923) used a charter of authority supplied by the English Freemason John Yarker to establish a new Academy of Masonry. The Academy was later amalgamated into the Ordo Templi Orientis, the Order of the Eastern Temple or Order of Oriental Templars founded by high-ranking German Freemason Karl Kellner.
The OTO was connected with John Yarker’s Masonic Ancient and Primitive Rite of Memphis and Mizraim and was supposed to possess the key to all the Masonic-Hermetic mysteries. Kellner claimed to have been taught these ‘secrets’ by three Eastern adepts. Theodor Reuss is mostly remembered today for initiating the notorious twentieth century occultist and magician Aleister Crowley into the OTO in 1912. The Great Beast 666, as he called himself, and known to the sensational newspapers as ‘The Wickedest Man in the World’ (surely not compared with his contemporaries Stalin and Hitler?) became the head of the Order in Britain and Europe. He claimed that the OTO was a Rosicrucian-Illuminatist group descended from the Bavarian Illuminati. Crowley was also a long-term secret agent working for MI6 or the British Secret Intelligence Service...
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=39207
About the author:
MICHAEL HOWARD is a writer, researcher, editor and publisher who has been interested in occult parapolitics all his adult life. He is the author of Secret Societies: Their Influence and Power from Antiquity to the Present Day (Destiny Books USA). He lives in England and can be contacted by e-mail mike@the-cauldron.fsnet.co.uk or by post at BM Cauldron, London, WC1N 3XX, England.
Following the prohibition of the Order of Perfectibilists, several occult secret societies claimed to have inherited its mantle and to be carrying on its work. These included the Society of Illuminists founded in Avignon in the late 1780s by the unlikely partnership of an excommunicated Catholic priest and a Polish count. It later changed its name to the Academy of True Free Masons when it moved its headquarters from Avignon to Montpelier. Although it is rumoured the group still existed in 1812, it actually stopped functioning during the French Revolution and the Reign of Terror that followed it.
The Concordists were a Russian secret society founded around 1790 as the alleged successor of the Bavarian Illuminati. They were suppressed in turn in the early 1800s by the Russian government who outlawed them as a subversive political organisation. In the early 1900s a journalist and spy for the Prussian secret police called Albert Karl Theodor Reuss (1855–1923) used a charter of authority supplied by the English Freemason John Yarker to establish a new Academy of Masonry. The Academy was later amalgamated into the Ordo Templi Orientis, the Order of the Eastern Temple or Order of Oriental Templars founded by high-ranking German Freemason Karl Kellner.
The OTO was connected with John Yarker’s Masonic Ancient and Primitive Rite of Memphis and Mizraim and was supposed to possess the key to all the Masonic-Hermetic mysteries. Kellner claimed to have been taught these ‘secrets’ by three Eastern adepts. Theodor Reuss is mostly remembered today for initiating the notorious twentieth century occultist and magician Aleister Crowley into the OTO in 1912. The Great Beast 666, as he called himself, and known to the sensational newspapers as ‘The Wickedest Man in the World’ (surely not compared with his contemporaries Stalin and Hitler?) became the head of the Order in Britain and Europe. He claimed that the OTO was a Rosicrucian-Illuminatist group descended from the Bavarian Illuminati. Crowley was also a long-term secret agent working for MI6 or the British Secret Intelligence Service...
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=39207
About the author:
MICHAEL HOWARD is a writer, researcher, editor and publisher who has been interested in occult parapolitics all his adult life. He is the author of Secret Societies: Their Influence and Power from Antiquity to the Present Day (Destiny Books USA). He lives in England and can be contacted by e-mail mike@the-cauldron.fsnet.co.uk or by post at BM Cauldron, London, WC1N 3XX, England.
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2 August 2016 17:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
FdO was not a Christian. He classed Jesus as one 'divine man' among others, such as Ram, Moses, Orpheus, Buddha, Pythagoras, and Odin, all of them sent by Providence for a specific time and task. Jesus's particular mission hinged on the Resurrection, in which FdO had no reason to disbelieve: 'Trois ans lui suffirent pour changer la face du Monde. Mais sa vie, quelque longue qu'elle eût été, de quelques miracles qu'il l'eût remplie, n'aurait point suffi. Il fallait qu'il voulût mourir, et qu'il eût la force de ressusciter. Admirable effort de la nature humaine aidée par la Providence!'[22]
FdO's longest work is his universal history, first titled De l'état social de l'homme (1822) then reissued, unchanged, as Histoire philosophique du genre humain (1824). He tells that the mineral, vegetable and animal kingdoms were the object of three successive creations; mankind was the fourth. The latter first resembled animals, until the conscious attraction between the sexes started it on its destined path of humanisation. Thereupon mankind has never ceased to evolve. (Histoire philosophique, I, 46, 88, 95) The history continues from about 12,000 years ago, after the fall of Atlantis, gradually becoming less dependent on imagination and more on the interpretation of historical events within the context of FdO's metaphysical system, according to which world events are subject to three powers: Providence, Will, and Destiny.
FvD, in his late work Über den Meteor-Kultus der Alten (1809), gives an abbreviated account of the spiritual history of mankind. First he outlines the development of the earth as it arose from the waters, the evolution of islands into mountains, the reverence of early mankind for natural phenomena, then the rise of philosophy: first the doctrine of emanation, linked to pantheism, then the worship of stars. Thereupon came a decline, as worship was paid to lower beings, then to idols
FdO names four races, but only concerns himself with the history of the white or Borean race. At its beginnings, which he does not attempt to date, 'Elle habitait les environs du pôle boréal, d'où elle avait tiré son origine.' On this matter, he accepts the authority of Olaus Rudbeck and Jean-Sylvain Bailly, whose proofs, 'insuffisantes dans leurs hypothèses, deviennent irrésistibles quand il n'est question que de fixer la première demeure de la Race blanche, et le lieu de son origine.'[24]
FvD explains in a long philological-philosophical essay, Simorg der Persische Phönix,[25] the theory of Jean-Sylvain Bailly, according to which mankind originates from a far northern, if not actually polar homeland. Since, according to one legend, the Phoenix is said to live for 300 days, then remain dead for 65 days, this seems to allude to the situation at 71 degrees north, where the sun shines for 300 days and then disappears for 65. (E&G, 393) Because of the elusive, poetic style of the essay, it is impossible to be certain whether FvD believed this or not.
FdO promised, in his commentary on the Golden Verses of Pythagoras, to sort out the common misconceptions concerning the Pythagorean doctrine of the transmigration of souls. (Cellier, 197-199) This he never did, though it is certain that he had some form of reincarnationist belief. In one of the sermons to his cult, given in 1824, he states outright that Julie Marcel, a young woman born around 1776, whom he knew when she was 24, and who shortly after 'died practically in my arms,' defied Destiny by manifesting to him afterwards. However, after a kind of celestial combat with a demonic spirit, she was defeated, and 'tomba du monde des Essences dans celui des Réalités, et fut obligée d'y reprendre corps et d'y renaître pour y suivre encore une fois les chaînes de la vie mortelle.'[26] He goes on to say that she was reborn in 1810 to a distinguished family somewhere in Europe; he did not know if Destiny would allow him to meet her again.[27]
FvD writes on at least two occasions with an evident sympathy for the doctrine of reincarnation or metempsychosis. In the early essay Betrachtungen über die leidende Kraft des Menschen, he suggests that rebirth and metempsychosis are the secret instruments for the eventual elimination of all human suffering. The return of humans to ever more developed stages of being leads them, step by step, to their own ideal conditions. (Summarized in E&G, 118) Much later, in 1809, he writes in his essay on the Phoenix: 'Das Hauptphilosophem der Menschheit, wie der Inhalt aller Mysterien, Mythen, Hymnen, und Dichtungen ist: Geburt und Tod, Zeugung und Zerstörung, verjüngtes im Kreis wiederkehrendes Leben, wechselnde Zeit nach Stunden, Monathen, Jahren, wiederkehrende sich verjüngende Formen in Zeit und Raum.' (Simorg, 208, quoted in E&G, 394
FdO's Histoire philosophique pays much attention to India, China, Persia, and Egypt. Although the book is not presented in a scholarly style, but rather as a narrative that verges, in the early chapters, into fantastic fiction, FdO had obviously derived the seeds of his story from extensive study of the English and French Orientalists. He draws on them for his version of mythical Indian history, in which the figure of Ram (=Rama) plays a crucial role as founder of the first Universal Empire around 6700 B.C. He also gives important roles to Moses, Orpheus, and 'Foë' (Buddha), and lesser ones to Krishna, Lao-Tze, Confucius, Numa, Pythagoras, Odin, Apollonius of Tyana, and Jesus.
FdO wrote one large-scale sacred work which received a single known performance: an Oratorio à l'occasion de la fête du sacré et du couronnement de S. M. l'Empereur. He composed it, to his own words, to celebrate the elevation of Napoleon to Emperor in 1804. It was performed at the Protestant Consistorial Church of St. Louis du Louvre on December 21, under the direction of Jean-Baptiste Rochefort, with the orchestra of the Academy. The Introduction was set in the 'Hellenic mode'
FdO devotes much of his unpublished book on music, La musique expliquée comme science et comme art, to a discussion of the musical system and aesthetics of the ancient Greeks. His own experiments in composing in the 'Hellenic mode' were an attempt to recapture some of the modal richness of the ancients, lost in modern music.
FvD treats the music of ancient Greece in his Untersuchungen über den Ursprung der Harmonie (1800): it was there, he says, that the all-important connection of music with number was made. He returns to ancient Greek ideals in his essays Ueber griechische Instrumentalmusik und ihre Wirkung (1806) and Polyhymnia, oder vom Geist und den Wirkungen der Musik (1808), as a basis for explaining the shortcomings of modern music.
FdO, as an admirer of Pythagoras, taught a metaphysics founded on the four first numbers, and their manifestation as the Harmony of the Spheres as the key to the musical system. In an essay entitled 'Coup d'oeil sur la musique sacrée,' he writes: 'Le nombre 12 formé du ternaire et du quaternaire est le symbole de l'univers et la mesure du son
http://collections.stanford.edu/supere/page.action?forward=author_curious§ion=authors
FdO's longest work is his universal history, first titled De l'état social de l'homme (1822) then reissued, unchanged, as Histoire philosophique du genre humain (1824). He tells that the mineral, vegetable and animal kingdoms were the object of three successive creations; mankind was the fourth. The latter first resembled animals, until the conscious attraction between the sexes started it on its destined path of humanisation. Thereupon mankind has never ceased to evolve. (Histoire philosophique, I, 46, 88, 95) The history continues from about 12,000 years ago, after the fall of Atlantis, gradually becoming less dependent on imagination and more on the interpretation of historical events within the context of FdO's metaphysical system, according to which world events are subject to three powers: Providence, Will, and Destiny.
FvD, in his late work Über den Meteor-Kultus der Alten (1809), gives an abbreviated account of the spiritual history of mankind. First he outlines the development of the earth as it arose from the waters, the evolution of islands into mountains, the reverence of early mankind for natural phenomena, then the rise of philosophy: first the doctrine of emanation, linked to pantheism, then the worship of stars. Thereupon came a decline, as worship was paid to lower beings, then to idols
FdO names four races, but only concerns himself with the history of the white or Borean race. At its beginnings, which he does not attempt to date, 'Elle habitait les environs du pôle boréal, d'où elle avait tiré son origine.' On this matter, he accepts the authority of Olaus Rudbeck and Jean-Sylvain Bailly, whose proofs, 'insuffisantes dans leurs hypothèses, deviennent irrésistibles quand il n'est question que de fixer la première demeure de la Race blanche, et le lieu de son origine.'[24]
FvD explains in a long philological-philosophical essay, Simorg der Persische Phönix,[25] the theory of Jean-Sylvain Bailly, according to which mankind originates from a far northern, if not actually polar homeland. Since, according to one legend, the Phoenix is said to live for 300 days, then remain dead for 65 days, this seems to allude to the situation at 71 degrees north, where the sun shines for 300 days and then disappears for 65. (E&G, 393) Because of the elusive, poetic style of the essay, it is impossible to be certain whether FvD believed this or not.
FdO promised, in his commentary on the Golden Verses of Pythagoras, to sort out the common misconceptions concerning the Pythagorean doctrine of the transmigration of souls. (Cellier, 197-199) This he never did, though it is certain that he had some form of reincarnationist belief. In one of the sermons to his cult, given in 1824, he states outright that Julie Marcel, a young woman born around 1776, whom he knew when she was 24, and who shortly after 'died practically in my arms,' defied Destiny by manifesting to him afterwards. However, after a kind of celestial combat with a demonic spirit, she was defeated, and 'tomba du monde des Essences dans celui des Réalités, et fut obligée d'y reprendre corps et d'y renaître pour y suivre encore une fois les chaînes de la vie mortelle.'[26] He goes on to say that she was reborn in 1810 to a distinguished family somewhere in Europe; he did not know if Destiny would allow him to meet her again.[27]
FvD writes on at least two occasions with an evident sympathy for the doctrine of reincarnation or metempsychosis. In the early essay Betrachtungen über die leidende Kraft des Menschen, he suggests that rebirth and metempsychosis are the secret instruments for the eventual elimination of all human suffering. The return of humans to ever more developed stages of being leads them, step by step, to their own ideal conditions. (Summarized in E&G, 118) Much later, in 1809, he writes in his essay on the Phoenix: 'Das Hauptphilosophem der Menschheit, wie der Inhalt aller Mysterien, Mythen, Hymnen, und Dichtungen ist: Geburt und Tod, Zeugung und Zerstörung, verjüngtes im Kreis wiederkehrendes Leben, wechselnde Zeit nach Stunden, Monathen, Jahren, wiederkehrende sich verjüngende Formen in Zeit und Raum.' (Simorg, 208, quoted in E&G, 394
FdO's Histoire philosophique pays much attention to India, China, Persia, and Egypt. Although the book is not presented in a scholarly style, but rather as a narrative that verges, in the early chapters, into fantastic fiction, FdO had obviously derived the seeds of his story from extensive study of the English and French Orientalists. He draws on them for his version of mythical Indian history, in which the figure of Ram (=Rama) plays a crucial role as founder of the first Universal Empire around 6700 B.C. He also gives important roles to Moses, Orpheus, and 'Foë' (Buddha), and lesser ones to Krishna, Lao-Tze, Confucius, Numa, Pythagoras, Odin, Apollonius of Tyana, and Jesus.
FdO wrote one large-scale sacred work which received a single known performance: an Oratorio à l'occasion de la fête du sacré et du couronnement de S. M. l'Empereur. He composed it, to his own words, to celebrate the elevation of Napoleon to Emperor in 1804. It was performed at the Protestant Consistorial Church of St. Louis du Louvre on December 21, under the direction of Jean-Baptiste Rochefort, with the orchestra of the Academy. The Introduction was set in the 'Hellenic mode'
FdO devotes much of his unpublished book on music, La musique expliquée comme science et comme art, to a discussion of the musical system and aesthetics of the ancient Greeks. His own experiments in composing in the 'Hellenic mode' were an attempt to recapture some of the modal richness of the ancients, lost in modern music.
FvD treats the music of ancient Greece in his Untersuchungen über den Ursprung der Harmonie (1800): it was there, he says, that the all-important connection of music with number was made. He returns to ancient Greek ideals in his essays Ueber griechische Instrumentalmusik und ihre Wirkung (1806) and Polyhymnia, oder vom Geist und den Wirkungen der Musik (1808), as a basis for explaining the shortcomings of modern music.
FdO, as an admirer of Pythagoras, taught a metaphysics founded on the four first numbers, and their manifestation as the Harmony of the Spheres as the key to the musical system. In an essay entitled 'Coup d'oeil sur la musique sacrée,' he writes: 'Le nombre 12 formé du ternaire et du quaternaire est le symbole de l'univers et la mesure du son
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2 August 2016 17:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but peole are interested about him:
What is the meaning, if any, of coincidence? Its roots remain obscure, for all the efforts by Carl Jung, Arthur Koestler, and others to unearth them.[1] Yet the appearance of separate shoots having an uncanny resemblance to each other cannot fail to provoke, or at least to entertain, the open-minded viewer. Such is the case with the lives and work of these two contemporaries. One, Fabre d'Olivet (1767-1825), is a large fish in the small pond of the French esoteric tradition. The other, Fritz von Dalberg (1760-1812), survives as he lived, eclipsed by his more famous brothers-though even these, Archbishop Karl Theodor, Napoleon's puppet monarch of the Rhine, and Wolfgang Heribert, intendant of the Mannheim Theatre and first presenter of Schiller's plays, are hardly household names.[2]
Despite the social disparity between the noble Dalbergs and the self-made Fabres, both subjects grew up in wealthy surroundings, with indulgent parents. Their talents were allowed to develop without undue constraint, and for the rest of their lives (not long ones, for they both died in their 50s) they continued to expand. Some would call these late-blooming universal men dilettantes, Goethes in miniature. One could have worse aspirations. As the tally below shows, their universality took them down many paths well worn by their contemporaries, as indeed by Goethe himself. It is in the details that the coincidences pile up.
In what follows, Fabre d'Olivet (in the left column) is represented as 'FdO'; Dalberg (on the right) as 'FvD'.
Family Origins, Early Life :
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FdO, who always claimed to have reached the truth through his own efforts, did not belong to any secret society.[16] At the beginning and the end of his Histoire philosophique, he mentions Adam Weishaupt, founder of the Illuminati of Bavaria, in the most scathing terms: 'Epris des idées du philosophe français [Rousseau], il les revêtit des formes mystérieuses de l'illuminisme, et les propagea dans les loges des franc-maçons. On ne saurait se faire une idée de la rapidité avec laquelle cette propagation se fit, tant les hommes sont prompts à accueillir ce que flatte leurs passions. Pendant un moment la société européenne fut menacée d'un imminent danger.'[17] However, in the last year of his life (1824-25), FdO founded his own order, 'Le culte théodoxique universel'. Evidence for it rests on a group of documents entitled La Vraie Maçonnerie et la Céleste Culture, which include a description of the lodge and a quasi-masonic ritual, and a series of discourses to be addressed to the members of the lodge by the founder.[18] Whereas Freemasonry uses the symbolism of architecture, FdO's order uses that of agriculture.
FvD became a Freemason at the age of 21, at the Worms lodge 'Johannes zur brüderlichen Liebe'. In 1784 he was mentioned under his masonic name of 'Massinissa' as one of the 'trustworthy and serviceable' Masons who might form a lodge of the Illuminati of Bavaria. In fact, both he and his brother Karl Theodor joined the latter order (as did Herder, Goethe, and Goethe's patron Duke Carl August, to name a few). Although the Illuminati were dissolved by 1788, FvD continued as an active Freemason, attending the lodge in Aschaffenburg until the year of his death. (E&G, 227-240)
FdO's theology, though expressed in highly original terms, resembles that of Plato. He conceives of an ineffable One, beneath which are the three 'universal beings': Providence, Will and Destiny, comparable to the Platonic Ideas. 'Ces trois mondes et les trois Êtres universels qui les gouvernent, sont enveloppés et dominés par l'Eternel Dieu, l'Être des Êtres, principe et fin de toutes choses, qui les contient sans en être contenu, les enchaîne sans en être enchaîné et qui, hors du temps et de l'espace, trouve seul en lui-même le Principe de son éternelle essence.'[20] It is not the Eternal God, but one of the universal beings, Providence, that acts as the benevolent motor of history.
FvD found his own theological conceptions well expressed in Herder's essay in dialogue form, Gott: Einige Gespräche,[21] whose intention had been to rescue Spinoza's idea of God from the charge of atheism. JvD writes to his friend on July 26, 1787: 'Ja edler Herder: Ihr Gott ist auch der meinige ... Ich kann mir das höchste Wesen nach keiner würdigeren Vorstellung denken. Weiter kann Vernunft nicht gelangen als zur Erkenntniß der nothwendigen ewigen Gesetze die in der Natur liegen und da nur Abdrücke der ewigen Allweisheit, Allmacht, Allgüte sind, eine höhere Erkenntnis Gottes kann uns nur durch Offenbarung werden.' (E&G, 175)
What is the meaning, if any, of coincidence? Its roots remain obscure, for all the efforts by Carl Jung, Arthur Koestler, and others to unearth them.[1] Yet the appearance of separate shoots having an uncanny resemblance to each other cannot fail to provoke, or at least to entertain, the open-minded viewer. Such is the case with the lives and work of these two contemporaries. One, Fabre d'Olivet (1767-1825), is a large fish in the small pond of the French esoteric tradition. The other, Fritz von Dalberg (1760-1812), survives as he lived, eclipsed by his more famous brothers-though even these, Archbishop Karl Theodor, Napoleon's puppet monarch of the Rhine, and Wolfgang Heribert, intendant of the Mannheim Theatre and first presenter of Schiller's plays, are hardly household names.[2]
Despite the social disparity between the noble Dalbergs and the self-made Fabres, both subjects grew up in wealthy surroundings, with indulgent parents. Their talents were allowed to develop without undue constraint, and for the rest of their lives (not long ones, for they both died in their 50s) they continued to expand. Some would call these late-blooming universal men dilettantes, Goethes in miniature. One could have worse aspirations. As the tally below shows, their universality took them down many paths well worn by their contemporaries, as indeed by Goethe himself. It is in the details that the coincidences pile up.
In what follows, Fabre d'Olivet (in the left column) is represented as 'FdO'; Dalberg (on the right) as 'FvD'.
Family Origins, Early Life :
http://collections.stanford.edu/supere/page.action?forward=author_curious§ion=authors
FdO, who always claimed to have reached the truth through his own efforts, did not belong to any secret society.[16] At the beginning and the end of his Histoire philosophique, he mentions Adam Weishaupt, founder of the Illuminati of Bavaria, in the most scathing terms: 'Epris des idées du philosophe français [Rousseau], il les revêtit des formes mystérieuses de l'illuminisme, et les propagea dans les loges des franc-maçons. On ne saurait se faire une idée de la rapidité avec laquelle cette propagation se fit, tant les hommes sont prompts à accueillir ce que flatte leurs passions. Pendant un moment la société européenne fut menacée d'un imminent danger.'[17] However, in the last year of his life (1824-25), FdO founded his own order, 'Le culte théodoxique universel'. Evidence for it rests on a group of documents entitled La Vraie Maçonnerie et la Céleste Culture, which include a description of the lodge and a quasi-masonic ritual, and a series of discourses to be addressed to the members of the lodge by the founder.[18] Whereas Freemasonry uses the symbolism of architecture, FdO's order uses that of agriculture.
FvD became a Freemason at the age of 21, at the Worms lodge 'Johannes zur brüderlichen Liebe'. In 1784 he was mentioned under his masonic name of 'Massinissa' as one of the 'trustworthy and serviceable' Masons who might form a lodge of the Illuminati of Bavaria. In fact, both he and his brother Karl Theodor joined the latter order (as did Herder, Goethe, and Goethe's patron Duke Carl August, to name a few). Although the Illuminati were dissolved by 1788, FvD continued as an active Freemason, attending the lodge in Aschaffenburg until the year of his death. (E&G, 227-240)
FdO's theology, though expressed in highly original terms, resembles that of Plato. He conceives of an ineffable One, beneath which are the three 'universal beings': Providence, Will and Destiny, comparable to the Platonic Ideas. 'Ces trois mondes et les trois Êtres universels qui les gouvernent, sont enveloppés et dominés par l'Eternel Dieu, l'Être des Êtres, principe et fin de toutes choses, qui les contient sans en être contenu, les enchaîne sans en être enchaîné et qui, hors du temps et de l'espace, trouve seul en lui-même le Principe de son éternelle essence.'[20] It is not the Eternal God, but one of the universal beings, Providence, that acts as the benevolent motor of history.
FvD found his own theological conceptions well expressed in Herder's essay in dialogue form, Gott: Einige Gespräche,[21] whose intention had been to rescue Spinoza's idea of God from the charge of atheism. JvD writes to his friend on July 26, 1787: 'Ja edler Herder: Ihr Gott ist auch der meinige ... Ich kann mir das höchste Wesen nach keiner würdigeren Vorstellung denken. Weiter kann Vernunft nicht gelangen als zur Erkenntniß der nothwendigen ewigen Gesetze die in der Natur liegen und da nur Abdrücke der ewigen Allweisheit, Allmacht, Allgüte sind, eine höhere Erkenntnis Gottes kann uns nur durch Offenbarung werden.' (E&G, 175)
http://collections.stanford.edu/supere/page.action?forward=author_curious§ion=authors
2 August 2016 17:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey, littlebit more taste from the Strict Observance list
www.conspiracyarchive.com/2015/07/06/masonic-congress-of-wilhelmsbad/
ja veel need inimesed
Johann Joachim Christoph Bode (a Lilio Convallium) – Illuminatus, 1782 (insinuated at Wilhelmsbad); the representative of Ernst Johann von Fircks (ab Aquila Rubra) and Christian Friedrich Kessler von Sprengseysen (a Spina), and the towns of Bremen, and Meiningen
Ernst Traugott von Kortum (a Fonte Irriguo); the representative of Alois Friedrich von Brühl (a Gladio Ancipiti)
Johann Friedrich (von) Schwartz (ab Urna) – Illuminatus, March 1783; archivist for the Strict Observance and the conference secretary for the German language; treasurer for Konrad Franz von Rhetz (a Mergite); and representing Brunswick, Hanover, Königsberg, Batavia and the Brothers in Russia
Imperial Count August Dietrich Marschall von Burgholzhausen (a Thymalo) – Illuminatus; master of ceremonies at the conference
von Jahn (a Cancro Aureo)
Otto Friedrich Adolph von Köppern (a Tribus Uvis) – Illuminatus, April 1783; Copenhagen representative
Johan Christoph Dertinger (a Metallis); representative for Grand Dignitary of the 8th Province, Ernst Friedrich Hektor Falcke (a Rostro) – Illuminatus, December 1780
Franz Christian Eckbrech Baron von Dürckheim (ab Arcu) – Illuminatus, May 1784; representing the Prefecture of Schleswig
Franz Dietrich Baron von Ditfurth (ab Omo) – Illuminatus, April 1781
Georg Heinrich von Rosskampf (ab Equo Bellicoso); representing the Stuttgart chapter
Th. Bauer (a Vomere)
Wolfgang Heribert von Dalberg (a Tumba Sancta) [brother of Illuminatus Karl Theodor Anton Maria von Dalberg]; representing the Priory in Munich
Karl Friedrich Kasimir Wundt (a Laurea) – Illuminatus, 1782 [grandfather of experimental psychologist Wilhelm Maximilian Wundt]; representing Munich
H. von Heiden (a Cidonia); representing Frankfurt
Albert Baron von Seckendorff (a Capricornu); representing Ansbach
Count Franz Joseph von Kolowrat-Liebensteinsky (ab Aquila Fulgente) – Illuminatus, August 1782 (insinuated at Wilhelmsbad); representing Vienna and Sibiu [Hermannstadt] in Transylvania
Count [later Prince] Karl Josef zu Salm-Reifferscheidt (ab Intacto Fulmine Laureo); representing the National Lodge of Austria
Johann Eubert Bödecker (a Lapide Cubico); representing the National Lodge of Austria
Count Paul Szapary (a Gladio Hungarico); for Poznań and Budapest
Count François-Henri de Virieu (a Circulis); representing the Duke d’Havré-Croy (a Porto Optato)
Chevalier Gaspard de Savaron (a Solibus); Provincial Visitor General; repesenting the Prefectures of Lyons and Chambéry
Jean-Baptiste Willermoz (ab Eremo); Cancellarius Provinciae; representing the Auvergne Treasurer Lambert de Lisieux (ab Turri Alba) and the Grand Master of the Cermonies, Chevalier de Rachais (a Leone Strenuo)
François-Marie Marquis de Chefdebien d’Armissan (a Capite Galeato) – Illuminatus, 1787 [insinuated by Bode]; representing the Grand Priory of Montpellier
Friedrich Eilbert von Dürckheim (ab Ave)
Johann von Türckheim (a Flumine) – Illuminatus; conference general secretary for the French language; Provincial Visitor General; representing the Prefecture of Saarbrücken
Diethelm Lavater (ab Aesculapio); Helvetic Grand Prior
Christoph Kayser (ab Pelicano); for the Prefecture of Zurich
Friedrich Rudolf Salzmann (ab Hedera) – Illuminatus; Chancellor for the Grand Priory of Austrasie [northern France]
Bernhard Friedrich von Türckheim (a Navibus) [the brother of the previously-mentioned Türckheim]; negotiating for Strasbourg and for the Prefecture of Alsace
Hyacinthe Chappe de la Henrière (a Cruce Caerulea); for the Prefectures of Metz and Nancy
Chancellor Sébastien Giraud (a Serpente); representing the Grand Priory of Italy, with authority from Count Gabriele Asinari di Bernezzo (a Turre Aurea) and Baron J. Gamba della Perosa (a Cruce Argentea)
www.conspiracyarchive.com/2015/07/06/masonic-congress-of-wilhelmsbad/
ja veel need inimesed
Johann Joachim Christoph Bode (a Lilio Convallium) – Illuminatus, 1782 (insinuated at Wilhelmsbad); the representative of Ernst Johann von Fircks (ab Aquila Rubra) and Christian Friedrich Kessler von Sprengseysen (a Spina), and the towns of Bremen, and Meiningen
Ernst Traugott von Kortum (a Fonte Irriguo); the representative of Alois Friedrich von Brühl (a Gladio Ancipiti)
Johann Friedrich (von) Schwartz (ab Urna) – Illuminatus, March 1783; archivist for the Strict Observance and the conference secretary for the German language; treasurer for Konrad Franz von Rhetz (a Mergite); and representing Brunswick, Hanover, Königsberg, Batavia and the Brothers in Russia
Imperial Count August Dietrich Marschall von Burgholzhausen (a Thymalo) – Illuminatus; master of ceremonies at the conference
von Jahn (a Cancro Aureo)
Otto Friedrich Adolph von Köppern (a Tribus Uvis) – Illuminatus, April 1783; Copenhagen representative
Johan Christoph Dertinger (a Metallis); representative for Grand Dignitary of the 8th Province, Ernst Friedrich Hektor Falcke (a Rostro) – Illuminatus, December 1780
Franz Christian Eckbrech Baron von Dürckheim (ab Arcu) – Illuminatus, May 1784; representing the Prefecture of Schleswig
Franz Dietrich Baron von Ditfurth (ab Omo) – Illuminatus, April 1781
Georg Heinrich von Rosskampf (ab Equo Bellicoso); representing the Stuttgart chapter
Th. Bauer (a Vomere)
Wolfgang Heribert von Dalberg (a Tumba Sancta) [brother of Illuminatus Karl Theodor Anton Maria von Dalberg]; representing the Priory in Munich
Karl Friedrich Kasimir Wundt (a Laurea) – Illuminatus, 1782 [grandfather of experimental psychologist Wilhelm Maximilian Wundt]; representing Munich
H. von Heiden (a Cidonia); representing Frankfurt
Albert Baron von Seckendorff (a Capricornu); representing Ansbach
Count Franz Joseph von Kolowrat-Liebensteinsky (ab Aquila Fulgente) – Illuminatus, August 1782 (insinuated at Wilhelmsbad); representing Vienna and Sibiu [Hermannstadt] in Transylvania
Count [later Prince] Karl Josef zu Salm-Reifferscheidt (ab Intacto Fulmine Laureo); representing the National Lodge of Austria
Johann Eubert Bödecker (a Lapide Cubico); representing the National Lodge of Austria
Count Paul Szapary (a Gladio Hungarico); for Poznań and Budapest
Count François-Henri de Virieu (a Circulis); representing the Duke d’Havré-Croy (a Porto Optato)
Chevalier Gaspard de Savaron (a Solibus); Provincial Visitor General; repesenting the Prefectures of Lyons and Chambéry
Jean-Baptiste Willermoz (ab Eremo); Cancellarius Provinciae; representing the Auvergne Treasurer Lambert de Lisieux (ab Turri Alba) and the Grand Master of the Cermonies, Chevalier de Rachais (a Leone Strenuo)
François-Marie Marquis de Chefdebien d’Armissan (a Capite Galeato) – Illuminatus, 1787 [insinuated by Bode]; representing the Grand Priory of Montpellier
Friedrich Eilbert von Dürckheim (ab Ave)
Johann von Türckheim (a Flumine) – Illuminatus; conference general secretary for the French language; Provincial Visitor General; representing the Prefecture of Saarbrücken
Diethelm Lavater (ab Aesculapio); Helvetic Grand Prior
Christoph Kayser (ab Pelicano); for the Prefecture of Zurich
Friedrich Rudolf Salzmann (ab Hedera) – Illuminatus; Chancellor for the Grand Priory of Austrasie [northern France]
Bernhard Friedrich von Türckheim (a Navibus) [the brother of the previously-mentioned Türckheim]; negotiating for Strasbourg and for the Prefecture of Alsace
Hyacinthe Chappe de la Henrière (a Cruce Caerulea); for the Prefectures of Metz and Nancy
Chancellor Sébastien Giraud (a Serpente); representing the Grand Priory of Italy, with authority from Count Gabriele Asinari di Bernezzo (a Turre Aurea) and Baron J. Gamba della Perosa (a Cruce Argentea)
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2015/07/06/masonic-congress-of-wilhelmsbad/
2 August 2016 17:25
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2 August 2016 17:21
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2 August 2016 17:16
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2 August 2016 17:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
How far the autonomy of the 'City' really goes, and how much force it exerts on the policy of the UK, is debatable. Nevertheless I must note the following:
There are two other districts with similar status: they are the Vatican and the District of Columbia in Washington, which got its special status in 1871, and which is housing, amongst others, the White House, the Capitol, the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. Taken together, these three districts that stretch over an area of only a few square kilometers, are the absolute superpower financially, military and religious!
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Give me control over a nation's currency,
then it does not interest me who makes the laws.
(Mayer Amschel Rothschild)
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Mayer Amschel Bauer was the founder of the Rothschild dynasty. His father, Moses Amschel Bauer established himself in the year 1750 in the Frankfurt Jew Street and opened a shop for coin dealers, textile trade, exchange and gold and silver work.
A few years after the death of his father, Mayer Amschel began as a bank clerk who worked for the Oppenheimers in Hanover. After some time he was promoted as junior partner. He changed his name to Mayer Amschel Rothschild, after he had returned to Frankfurt and had purchased the business from his father. It is said that the name goes back to Rothschild, a red shield, which hung outside the store, and that the star of David was wearing the same symbol that the Kabbalists used in Prague, the former stronghold of the Kabbalah.
About the year 1760 Mayer Amschel began business with the court of Hanau, aided by the acquaintance with General von Estorff. On the 21th of September 1769 he could put the badge bearing the arms of Hesse-Hanau, and the inscription "MA Rothschild, purveyor of His Illustrious Highness, Crown Prince Wilhelm of Hesse, Count of Hanau" in front of his shop.
William of Hanau was a merchant of human flesh. For a price on the head of every fallen soldier, the Prince let his troops to another country. His best customer was the British government, which needed the troops for the war against the American colonists.
He earned exceptionally well with his "rent-a-troop-business". When he died, he left the largest fortune ever accumulated in Europe at that time, $200,000,000. Rothschild biographer Frederic Morton describes William as "Europe's most blue-cold blooded loan shark" (The Rothschilds, Fawcett Crest, 1961, p. 40).
Rothschild was a broker for these human cattle-dealer. He must have been working diligently in his new position because when William was forced to flee from Napoleon to Denmark, he left 600 000 pounds (then worth $3,000,000) with Rothschild for safekeeping.
According to an intelligence officer in the Royal Canadian Navy, who had excellent contacts throughout the world, Rothschild made plans for the creation of the Illuminati Order and entrusted Adam Weishaupt with the organization and development. Weishaupt was professor of canon law and of practical philosophy at the University of Ingolstadt. Adam Weishaupt (1748-1830), founded on 1st May 1776 with two of his students the Federation of Perfectionist (from the Latin perfectibilis: to enable improvement). The Order existed officially only a short time because under the rulership of Karl Theodor of Bavaria, Illuminati and Freemasons were banned as traitorous and hostile to religion and their organizations forbidden. In house raids, several papers were seized of the Order, which provided evidence of its radical goals. An even tougher ban edict followed on 16 August, 1787, which placed the recruitment of members for Freemasons and Illuminati punishable by death!
Well, it would be nice if we knew what was found in these papers! The Illuminati is really the most mysterious order which was ever founded! It existed officially only 11 years, but until today one hears the wildest rumors about it. Besides these papers, of which we know nothing, other papers were found only twice: once secret documents were discovered by French authorities when a courier carrying them was killed by lightning. The order was consequently persecuted in France as well and hid itself in the local Masonic lodges. End of the 19th Century the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" were released by a Russian officer (probably one of the reasons Russia did not join the league of nations) which Hitler incorporated later into his "Mein Kampf". These papers are officially censored, confiscated and difficult to find. We hear only that they were forged.
http://www.tauhid.net/rothschild-eng.html
There are two other districts with similar status: they are the Vatican and the District of Columbia in Washington, which got its special status in 1871, and which is housing, amongst others, the White House, the Capitol, the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. Taken together, these three districts that stretch over an area of only a few square kilometers, are the absolute superpower financially, military and religious!
-
Give me control over a nation's currency,
then it does not interest me who makes the laws.
(Mayer Amschel Rothschild)
-
Mayer Amschel Bauer was the founder of the Rothschild dynasty. His father, Moses Amschel Bauer established himself in the year 1750 in the Frankfurt Jew Street and opened a shop for coin dealers, textile trade, exchange and gold and silver work.
A few years after the death of his father, Mayer Amschel began as a bank clerk who worked for the Oppenheimers in Hanover. After some time he was promoted as junior partner. He changed his name to Mayer Amschel Rothschild, after he had returned to Frankfurt and had purchased the business from his father. It is said that the name goes back to Rothschild, a red shield, which hung outside the store, and that the star of David was wearing the same symbol that the Kabbalists used in Prague, the former stronghold of the Kabbalah.
About the year 1760 Mayer Amschel began business with the court of Hanau, aided by the acquaintance with General von Estorff. On the 21th of September 1769 he could put the badge bearing the arms of Hesse-Hanau, and the inscription "MA Rothschild, purveyor of His Illustrious Highness, Crown Prince Wilhelm of Hesse, Count of Hanau" in front of his shop.
William of Hanau was a merchant of human flesh. For a price on the head of every fallen soldier, the Prince let his troops to another country. His best customer was the British government, which needed the troops for the war against the American colonists.
He earned exceptionally well with his "rent-a-troop-business". When he died, he left the largest fortune ever accumulated in Europe at that time, $200,000,000. Rothschild biographer Frederic Morton describes William as "Europe's most blue-cold blooded loan shark" (The Rothschilds, Fawcett Crest, 1961, p. 40).
Rothschild was a broker for these human cattle-dealer. He must have been working diligently in his new position because when William was forced to flee from Napoleon to Denmark, he left 600 000 pounds (then worth $3,000,000) with Rothschild for safekeeping.
According to an intelligence officer in the Royal Canadian Navy, who had excellent contacts throughout the world, Rothschild made plans for the creation of the Illuminati Order and entrusted Adam Weishaupt with the organization and development. Weishaupt was professor of canon law and of practical philosophy at the University of Ingolstadt. Adam Weishaupt (1748-1830), founded on 1st May 1776 with two of his students the Federation of Perfectionist (from the Latin perfectibilis: to enable improvement). The Order existed officially only a short time because under the rulership of Karl Theodor of Bavaria, Illuminati and Freemasons were banned as traitorous and hostile to religion and their organizations forbidden. In house raids, several papers were seized of the Order, which provided evidence of its radical goals. An even tougher ban edict followed on 16 August, 1787, which placed the recruitment of members for Freemasons and Illuminati punishable by death!
Well, it would be nice if we knew what was found in these papers! The Illuminati is really the most mysterious order which was ever founded! It existed officially only 11 years, but until today one hears the wildest rumors about it. Besides these papers, of which we know nothing, other papers were found only twice: once secret documents were discovered by French authorities when a courier carrying them was killed by lightning. The order was consequently persecuted in France as well and hid itself in the local Masonic lodges. End of the 19th Century the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" were released by a Russian officer (probably one of the reasons Russia did not join the league of nations) which Hitler incorporated later into his "Mein Kampf". These papers are officially censored, confiscated and difficult to find. We hear only that they were forged.
http://www.tauhid.net/rothschild-eng.html
http://www.tauhid.net/rothschild-eng.html
2 August 2016 16:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
...In October 1818 Rothschild's servants, equipped by their masters with boundless reserves, bought up large amounts of French government bonds issued through their rivals Ouvrard and Baring. This led to an increase in value of the bonds. Then, on the 5th of November, they began to throw huge amounts of the bonds on the open market and the market went into a panic.
Suddenly the scene changed in the palace! The Rothschilds had gained control over France!
Benjamin Disraeli, former Prime Minister of Britain, wrote a book in which he described the Rothschild family: "Nathan and his brothers were the masters of the money market in the world, and of course therefore also lord and master of everything else! The finances of Southern Italy were in their hands, and kings and ministers from all countries sought their advice and were guided by their suggestions."
The two incidents in England and France are just two examples of the many "coups" which they did over the years. However, slowly they changed their tactics. Instead to conduct the business themselves, they disappeared from the limelight and pulled their strings behind the curtains. Therefore, some believe it would be very little left of the great legend. And the Rothschilds are also pleased that silence is their public relation. Although they have numerous companies, none of them wears their name, with a few exceptions as camouflage.
The Rothschilds operate mainly out of an area in the heart of London's financial district, also known as 'The City' or the 'Square Mile.' All major British banks have their offices here, along with 385 foreign banks, including 70 of the United States alone. Here is the Bank of England, the Stock Exchange, Lloyd's of London, Baltic Exchange, Fleet Street, London Commodity Exchange, London Metal Exchange and others. It is virtually the financial hub of the world.
Known as the "richest square mile on earth", it enjoys special privileges and a certain independence since 1191. In 1215 the inhabitants of this area received a charter from King John, in which the right was given to appoint annually a mayor, known as Lord Major, a tradition that persists up to this day. The 'City' has its own police force of 2,000 police officers, his own court and its own flag.
Suddenly the scene changed in the palace! The Rothschilds had gained control over France!
Benjamin Disraeli, former Prime Minister of Britain, wrote a book in which he described the Rothschild family: "Nathan and his brothers were the masters of the money market in the world, and of course therefore also lord and master of everything else! The finances of Southern Italy were in their hands, and kings and ministers from all countries sought their advice and were guided by their suggestions."
The two incidents in England and France are just two examples of the many "coups" which they did over the years. However, slowly they changed their tactics. Instead to conduct the business themselves, they disappeared from the limelight and pulled their strings behind the curtains. Therefore, some believe it would be very little left of the great legend. And the Rothschilds are also pleased that silence is their public relation. Although they have numerous companies, none of them wears their name, with a few exceptions as camouflage.
The Rothschilds operate mainly out of an area in the heart of London's financial district, also known as 'The City' or the 'Square Mile.' All major British banks have their offices here, along with 385 foreign banks, including 70 of the United States alone. Here is the Bank of England, the Stock Exchange, Lloyd's of London, Baltic Exchange, Fleet Street, London Commodity Exchange, London Metal Exchange and others. It is virtually the financial hub of the world.
Known as the "richest square mile on earth", it enjoys special privileges and a certain independence since 1191. In 1215 the inhabitants of this area received a charter from King John, in which the right was given to appoint annually a mayor, known as Lord Major, a tradition that persists up to this day. The 'City' has its own police force of 2,000 police officers, his own court and its own flag.
2 August 2016 16:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
..Napoleon's defeat at Waterloo paid millions in profits at the London Stock Exchange because Nathan Rothschild was informed hours before the government of Wellington's victory and could therefore speculate accordingly. After the rumor was spread that the British had lost the battle, the shares plummeted and Nathan could buy them for pennies. A little later came the news of Wellington's victory, and the value of the shares and Rothschild's assets multiplied twenty times.
Mayer Amschel wrote his will a few days before his death. It included stringent regulations for the family and its businesses:
All key positions should be filled with family members.
Only male family members may participate in business transactions.
The eldest son of the eldest son should be head of the family, as long as the majority of the family does not decide otherwise.
The family should marry among each other with their cousins of the first and second degree.
There should be no legal inventory and no publication of the assets.
We ask ourselves: When Mayer Amschel was not a Kabbalist and did not believe in reincarnation, would this will make any sense?
Biographer Frederic Morton tells us that Mayer Amschel Rothschild and his five sons were 'Wizards of finance' and were 'diabolical calculators', motivated by a "demonic drive" in their secret undertakings.
Mayer Amschel wrote his will a few days before his death. It included stringent regulations for the family and its businesses:
All key positions should be filled with family members.
Only male family members may participate in business transactions.
The eldest son of the eldest son should be head of the family, as long as the majority of the family does not decide otherwise.
The family should marry among each other with their cousins of the first and second degree.
There should be no legal inventory and no publication of the assets.
We ask ourselves: When Mayer Amschel was not a Kabbalist and did not believe in reincarnation, would this will make any sense?
Biographer Frederic Morton tells us that Mayer Amschel Rothschild and his five sons were 'Wizards of finance' and were 'diabolical calculators', motivated by a "demonic drive" in their secret undertakings.
2 August 2016 16:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and now, top of that all that story to tie up, with upcoming years..:
Nathan Rothschild said:
I do not care about what puppet is placed on the throne of England,
to rule this Empire on which the sun never sets.
The man who controls Britain's money supply, controles the British Empire,
and I do control the British money supply!
After the defeat of Waterloo, the French recovered slowly financially. In 1817 they negotiated a major loan from the prestigious French banking house of Ouvrard and the well-known bankers Baring Brothers. The Rothschilds have been left out.
The following year the French government took another loan. The Rothschild brothers tried most of their tricks from their vast repertoire in order to influence the French government to give them the business, but their efforts were in vain. The proud French aristocrat saw in the Rothschilds just peasants and upstarts. The fact that the Rothschilds had vast financial resources, were living in the most luxurious homes and were dressed in the most elegant and expensive clothes, meant nothing to the French nobility. But something had been overlooked by the nobility: Rothschilds unprecedented cunning in the use and handling of money!
Nathan Rothschild said:
I do not care about what puppet is placed on the throne of England,
to rule this Empire on which the sun never sets.
The man who controls Britain's money supply, controles the British Empire,
and I do control the British money supply!
After the defeat of Waterloo, the French recovered slowly financially. In 1817 they negotiated a major loan from the prestigious French banking house of Ouvrard and the well-known bankers Baring Brothers. The Rothschilds have been left out.
The following year the French government took another loan. The Rothschild brothers tried most of their tricks from their vast repertoire in order to influence the French government to give them the business, but their efforts were in vain. The proud French aristocrat saw in the Rothschilds just peasants and upstarts. The fact that the Rothschilds had vast financial resources, were living in the most luxurious homes and were dressed in the most elegant and expensive clothes, meant nothing to the French nobility. But something had been overlooked by the nobility: Rothschilds unprecedented cunning in the use and handling of money!
2 August 2016 16:48
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"Karl Theodor Anton Maria von Dalberg (8 February 1744 – 10 February 1817) was Prince-Archbishop of Regensburg, Arch-Chancellor of the Holy Roman Empire, Bishop of Constance and Worms, Prince-Primate of the Confederation of the Rhine and Grand Duke of Frankfurt."
Born in Herrnsheim near Worms, Germany, he was the son of Franz Heinrich, administrator of Worms, one of the chief counsellors of the Prince-elector and Archbishop of Mainz.
Denomination Roman Catholic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Theodor_Anton_Maria_von_Dalberg
Born in Herrnsheim near Worms, Germany, he was the son of Franz Heinrich, administrator of Worms, one of the chief counsellors of the Prince-elector and Archbishop of Mainz.
Denomination Roman Catholic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Theodor_Anton_Maria_von_Dalberg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Theodor_Anton_Maria_von_Dalberg
2 August 2016 16:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jato jato
According to the treaty, the confederation was to be run by common constitutional bodies, but the individual states (in particular the larger ones) wanted unlimited sovereignty.[1] Instead of a monarchical head of state, as the Holy Roman Emperor had had, its highest office was held by Karl Theodor von Dalberg, the former Arch Chancellor, who now bore the title of a Prince-Primate of the confederation. As such, he was President of the College of Kings and presided over the Diet of the Confederation, designed to be a parliament-like body although it never actually assembled.[1] The President of the Council of the Princes was the Prince of Nassau-Usingen.
In return for their support of Napoleon, some rulers were given higher statuses: Baden, Hesse, Cleves, and Berg were made into grand duchies, and Württemberg and Bavaria became kingdoms. States were also made larger by incorporating the many smaller "Kleinstaaten", or small former imperial member states. They had to pay a very high price for their new status, however. The Confederation was above all a military alliance: the members had to maintain substantial armies for mutual defense and supply France with large numbers of military personnel. As events played out the members of the confederation found themselves more subordinated to Napoleon than they had been to the Habsburgs
According to the treaty, the confederation was to be run by common constitutional bodies, but the individual states (in particular the larger ones) wanted unlimited sovereignty.[1] Instead of a monarchical head of state, as the Holy Roman Emperor had had, its highest office was held by Karl Theodor von Dalberg, the former Arch Chancellor, who now bore the title of a Prince-Primate of the confederation. As such, he was President of the College of Kings and presided over the Diet of the Confederation, designed to be a parliament-like body although it never actually assembled.[1] The President of the Council of the Princes was the Prince of Nassau-Usingen.
In return for their support of Napoleon, some rulers were given higher statuses: Baden, Hesse, Cleves, and Berg were made into grand duchies, and Württemberg and Bavaria became kingdoms. States were also made larger by incorporating the many smaller "Kleinstaaten", or small former imperial member states. They had to pay a very high price for their new status, however. The Confederation was above all a military alliance: the members had to maintain substantial armies for mutual defense and supply France with large numbers of military personnel. As events played out the members of the confederation found themselves more subordinated to Napoleon than they had been to the Habsburgs
2 August 2016 16:32
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tore on, fa-fa, 7 aastat kestis peaaegu, hästi usutav, et see paari tuhande aastast traditsiooni kõigutas
First French Empire. It was formed initially from 16 German states by Napoleon after he defeated Austria and Russia in the Battle of Austerlitz. The Treaty of Pressburg, in effect, led to the creation of the Confederation of the Rhine. It lasted from 1806 to 1813
eriti kuns..
The members of the confederation were German princes (Fürsten) from the Holy Roman Empire. They were later joined by 19 others, all together ruling a total of over 15 million subjects providing a significant strategic advantage to the French Empire on its eastern front. Prussia and Austria were not members.
First French Empire. It was formed initially from 16 German states by Napoleon after he defeated Austria and Russia in the Battle of Austerlitz. The Treaty of Pressburg, in effect, led to the creation of the Confederation of the Rhine. It lasted from 1806 to 1813
eriti kuns..
The members of the confederation were German princes (Fürsten) from the Holy Roman Empire. They were later joined by 19 others, all together ruling a total of over 15 million subjects providing a significant strategic advantage to the French Empire on its eastern front. Prussia and Austria were not members.
2 August 2016 16:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The precise term "Holy Roman Empire" was not used until the 13th century, but the concept of translatio imperii[f] was fundamental to the prestige of the emperor, the notion that he held supreme power inherited from the emperors of Rome.[9] The office of Holy Roman Emperor was traditionally elective, although frequently controlled by dynasties. The German prince-electors, the highest-ranking noblemen of the empire, usually elected one of their peers as "King of the Romans", and he would later be crowned emperor by the Pope; the tradition of papal coronations was discontinued in the 16th century. The empire never achieved the extent of political unification formed in France, evolving instead into a decentralized, limited elective monarchy composed of hundreds of sub-units, principalities, duchies, counties, Free Imperial Cities, and other domains.[10][19] The power of the emperor was limited, and while the various princes, lords, bishops and cities of the empire were vassals who owed the emperor their allegiance, they also possessed an extent of privileges that gave them de facto independence within their territories. Emperor Francis II dissolved the empire on 6 August 1806, after the creation of the Confederation of the Rhine by Napoleon.
2 August 2016 16:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Inimesed nagu unustavad, et alles paarsada aastat tagasi, ametlikult rooma impeerium lõpetati, et uutele nimedele sama võimu all ruumi teha
...After the dissolution of the Holy Roman Empire in 1806 ( The End of the Holy Roman Empire in 1806), the double-headed eagle was retained by the Austrian Empire, and served also as the coat of arms of the German Confederation....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire
...After the dissolution of the Holy Roman Empire in 1806 ( The End of the Holy Roman Empire in 1806), the double-headed eagle was retained by the Austrian Empire, and served also as the coat of arms of the German Confederation....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire
2 August 2016 16:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
After the fall of Byzantium the use of two-headed eagle symbols spread to Grand Duchy of Moscow after Ivan III's second marriage (1472) to Zoe Palaiologina (a niece of the last Byzantine emperor Constantine XI Palaiologos, who reigned 1449-1453),[13] The last prince of Tver, Mikhail III of Tver (1453–1505), was stamping his coins with two-headed eagle symbol. The double-headed eagle remained an important motif in the heraldry of the imperial families of Russia (the House of Romanov (1613-1762).
The double-headed eagle was a main element of the coat of arms of the Russian Empire (1721-1917), modified in various ways from the reign of Ivan III (1462–1505) onwards, with the shape of the eagle getting its definite Russian form during the reign of Peter the Great (1682–1725). It continued in Russian use until abolished (being identified with Tsarist rule) with the Russian Revolution in 1917; it was restored in 1993 after that year's constitutional crisis and remains in use up to the present, although the eagle charge on the present coat of arms is golden rather than the traditional, imperial black.
The double-headed eagle was a main element of the coat of arms of the Russian Empire (1721-1917), modified in various ways from the reign of Ivan III (1462–1505) onwards, with the shape of the eagle getting its definite Russian form during the reign of Peter the Great (1682–1725). It continued in Russian use until abolished (being identified with Tsarist rule) with the Russian Revolution in 1917; it was restored in 1993 after that year's constitutional crisis and remains in use up to the present, although the eagle charge on the present coat of arms is golden rather than the traditional, imperial black.
2 August 2016 16:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Roman ensigns had on their top an eagle representing Rome. These symbols were held high by a special group of soldiers and during the battles they indicated the location of the commanding officers and they gave reassurance to the Roman legionaries. The choice of the eagle as the symbol of command was widespread among ancient civilizations. In Rome, according to the legend, this choice was due to the fact that Romulus, the founder of Rome, first saw an eagle, when he was competing (in a sort of modern bird-watching exercise) with his brother Remus for who should be the founder of the new town. The Roman eagle was usually represented with open wings and it was often inscribed within an oak-wreath (see relief in SS. Apostoli). The Roman eagle was resurrected by Mussolini in the 1930s and several buildings of that period were decorated with eagles. Most of the eagles of Rome, however, are a reminder of Pope Paul V (1605-21) and his family: Villa Borghese, Palazzo Borghese, Acqua Paola, are some of the monuments decorated with their eagles (and dragons).
2 August 2016 16:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 August 2016 16:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ikka need samad lõvid ja kotkad siiamaani... mis ei ole ükski meie sübol ju... või mis..
The Reichsadler ("Imperial Eagle") was the heraldic eagle, derived from the Roman eagle standard, used by the Holy Roman Emperors and in modern coats of arms of Germany, including those of the Second German Empire (1871-1918), the Weimar Republic (1919-1933) and the "Third Reich" (Nazi Germany, 1933-1945). The same design has remained in use by the Federal Republic of Germany since 1945,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coats_of_arms_of_the_Holy_Roman_Empire
The Reichsadler ("Imperial Eagle") was the heraldic eagle, derived from the Roman eagle standard, used by the Holy Roman Emperors and in modern coats of arms of Germany, including those of the Second German Empire (1871-1918), the Weimar Republic (1919-1933) and the "Third Reich" (Nazi Germany, 1933-1945). The same design has remained in use by the Federal Republic of Germany since 1945,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coats_of_arms_of_the_Holy_Roman_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coats_of_arms_of_the_Holy_Roman_Empire
2 August 2016 16:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The double-headed eagle motif appears to have its ultimate origin in the Ancient Near East, especially in Hittite iconography. It re-appears in the High Middle Ages, from ca. the 10th or 11th century, and was notably used in the Byzantine Empire, but 11th or 12th century representations are also known from Islamic Spain, France and Bulgaria, and from the 13th century onward it becomes more widespread, and is used in the Seljuk Sultanate of Rum, Mamluk Egypt in the Islamic sphere, and in the Holy Roman Empire, Serbia and Russia in the Christian sphere.
Used in the late Byzantine Empire as dynastic emblem of the Palaiologoi, it was adopted during the late medieval to early modern period in the Holy Roman Empire on one hand, and in Orthodox principalities Serbia and Russia on the other, representing an augmentation of the (single-headed) eagle or Aquila associated with the Roman Empire. In Russia, the motif was further augmented to create the triple-headed eagle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-headed_eagle
yeah, veel rohkem päid panna oleks juba totter olnud..
Used in the late Byzantine Empire as dynastic emblem of the Palaiologoi, it was adopted during the late medieval to early modern period in the Holy Roman Empire on one hand, and in Orthodox principalities Serbia and Russia on the other, representing an augmentation of the (single-headed) eagle or Aquila associated with the Roman Empire. In Russia, the motif was further augmented to create the triple-headed eagle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-headed_eagle
yeah, veel rohkem päid panna oleks juba totter olnud..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-headed_eagle
2 August 2016 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Areng:
With these attributed qualities the eagle became a symbol of power and strength in Ancient Rome. Mythologically, it has been connected by the Greeks with the God Zeus, by the Romans with Jupiter, by the Germanic tribes with Odin,
The eagle as a symbol has a history much longer than that of heraldry itself. In Ancient Egypt, the falcon was the symbol of Horus, and in Roman polytheism of Jupiter. An eagle appears on the battle standard of Cyrus the Great in Persia, around 540 BC. The eagle as a "heraldic animal" of the Roman Republic was introduced in 102 BC by consul Gaius Marius.[citation needed] According to Islamic tradition, the Black Standard of Muhammad was known as راية العُقاب rāyat al-`uqāb "banner of the eagle" (even though it did not depict an eagle and was solid black). In Christian symbolism the four living creatures of scripture (a man, an ox, a lion, and an eagle) have traditionally been associated with the Four Evangelists. The eagle is the symbol of Saint John the Evangelist.
by the Judeo-Christian scriptures with those who hope in God (Isaiah 40:31)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_(heraldry)
With these attributed qualities the eagle became a symbol of power and strength in Ancient Rome. Mythologically, it has been connected by the Greeks with the God Zeus, by the Romans with Jupiter, by the Germanic tribes with Odin,
The eagle as a symbol has a history much longer than that of heraldry itself. In Ancient Egypt, the falcon was the symbol of Horus, and in Roman polytheism of Jupiter. An eagle appears on the battle standard of Cyrus the Great in Persia, around 540 BC. The eagle as a "heraldic animal" of the Roman Republic was introduced in 102 BC by consul Gaius Marius.[citation needed] According to Islamic tradition, the Black Standard of Muhammad was known as راية العُقاب rāyat al-`uqāb "banner of the eagle" (even though it did not depict an eagle and was solid black). In Christian symbolism the four living creatures of scripture (a man, an ox, a lion, and an eagle) have traditionally been associated with the Four Evangelists. The eagle is the symbol of Saint John the Evangelist.
by the Judeo-Christian scriptures with those who hope in God (Isaiah 40:31)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_(heraldry)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_(heraldry)
2 August 2016 16:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Other names Jove
Abode Rome
Symbol Lightning bolt, eagle
Consort Juno
Parents Saturn
Siblings Roman tradition: Juno
Greco-Roman: Pluto and Neptune
Children Mars, Vulcan, Minerva, Hercules
Greek equivalent Zeus
Hinduism equivalent Indra
Abode Rome
Symbol Lightning bolt, eagle
Consort Juno
Parents Saturn
Siblings Roman tradition: Juno
Greco-Roman: Pluto and Neptune
Children Mars, Vulcan, Minerva, Hercules
Greek equivalent Zeus
Hinduism equivalent Indra
2 August 2016 16:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu nüüd oma sõnu pean sööma, sest just kui eile kajakas oli mu värske võipakiga minema lennanud, tõi mulle armas inimene uue paki taluvõid,
nüüd vot ei tea, kas see märk, et seda veel peaks, või see lihtsalt mu endale test, et kas ikka pead..
nüüd vot ei tea, kas see märk, et seda veel peaks, või see lihtsalt mu endale test, et kas ikka pead..
2 August 2016 15:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
pika minemisega ikke
2 August 2016 14:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kalamaja tasuta asjade turg
Saan mingisuguses praktilises tegevuse,s töös maksta,
Või arvutiparanduses, Arvutikoolituses, kasvõi rohimises : )
Igast muidu huvitavaid eluteadusi saab ka arutada ja veelgi olulisemat... kuid noh, et päris niisama ei peaks vaeva nägema, siis kui saad kasutada mind millegiks, nii et saan kapi ostetud kasvõi, siis pakkumised oodatud! :)2 August 2016 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Tasuta Asjade Turg (puuetega laste/täiskasvanute ja nende perede toetuseks)
Saan mingisuguses praktilises tegevuse,s töös maksta,
Või arvutiparanduses, Arvutikoolituses, kasvõi rohimises : )
Igast muidu huvitavaid eluteadusi saab ka arutada ja veelgi olulisemat... kuid noh, et päris niisama ei peaks vaeva nägema, siis kui saad kasutada mind millegiks, nii et saan kapi ostetud kasvõi, siis pakkumised oodatud! :)2 August 2016 14:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Tasuta kraam
Saan mingisuguses praktilises tegevuse,s töös maksta,
Või arvutiparanduses, Arvutikoolituses, kasvõi rohimises : )
Igast muidu huvitavaid eluteadusi saab ka arutada ja veelgi olulisemat... kuid noh, et päris niisama ei peaks vaeva nägema, siis kui saad kasutada mind millegiks, nii et saan kapi ostetud kasvõi, siis pakkumised oodatud! :)2 August 2016 14:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nii varsti saan pildid ka tehtud, loodan, et need mul õuepeal alles veel, Toimetanud omal siin teises kodus vahepeal
2 August 2016 14:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Olemas!
Tänud kallile naisele!
Tänud kallile naisele!
2 August 2016 14:12
Margus Meigo replied to Laisy Säde Deming's comment.
olen proovinud viimased 4+ aastat ilma resursita elada ja uurida, kuida sühiskond ja inimesed toimivad, nende vahelised suhted, tunded, käitumised, moraalid.. jms. nagu ikka vanasti
2 August 2016 13:15
Margus Meigo replied to Laisy Säde Deming's comment.
Muidu ikka südames lisatööna loomulikult kõik need riigi ja organisatsioonide sebistamised.. kuid eks iga asi omal ajal
2 August 2016 13:14
Margus Meigo replied to Laisy Säde Deming's comment.
Kui suur see punt teil on sääl, mäletan ka kedagi?
2 August 2016 13:09
Margus Meigo replied to Laisy Säde Deming's comment.
väga raske on teha midagi väikest, kuid suure jaoks palju väikeseid asju vaja...
2 August 2016 13:07
Margus Meigo replied to Laisy Säde Deming's comment.
Oih, ei millega nii ilusaga Kui Sa õnnistatud oled momendil.
Nõelun alles mitut maailma kokku ja pole veel otsustanud, kas enne talve kotiga soojale maale minna ja siis kotiga rikkust tagasi tuua või palehigis ja rahus kohapeal kivikivipeale laduda.
Kuid revolutsioone on palju tagataskust võtta.
Mul üks vahva tuttav ka just austraalia poole rändab, saadan kontakti kui ristuma juhtute
Nõelun alles mitut maailma kokku ja pole veel otsustanud, kas enne talve kotiga soojale maale minna ja siis kotiga rikkust tagasi tuua või palehigis ja rahus kohapeal kivikivipeale laduda.
Kuid revolutsioone on palju tagataskust võtta.
Mul üks vahva tuttav ka just austraalia poole rändab, saadan kontakti kui ristuma juhtute
2 August 2016 13:07
Margus Meigo replied to Laisy Säde Deming's comment.
Oled Sa juba mehel või mis Sa teed?
2 August 2016 12:57
Margus Meigo replied to Laisy Säde Deming's comment.
Siis näeme (sellel ajal ma nii Tartus kui mujal saan olla, eks näis)
2 August 2016 12:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi peab ikka päris jultunud tegelane olema, et teise inimese traktor ära varastada
Mingi standard võiks ikka olla, päti aukoodeks, fak, mida sa varastad, mõtled ka suts v
Ilusaid autosi terve õue täis, kui neid ei oska, siis fak, hoia maarahva elutöö jaoks vaja olevaid tööriistad, oma kodumaal alles, sa oma jalgealt varastad ju
Mingi standard võiks ikka olla, päti aukoodeks, fak, mida sa varastad, mõtled ka suts v
Ilusaid autosi terve õue täis, kui neid ei oska, siis fak, hoia maarahva elutöö jaoks vaja olevaid tööriistad, oma kodumaal alles, sa oma jalgealt varastad ju
2 August 2016 12:36
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Leht's post.
Mitmenda rassi esindajad need Päris illuminatid huvitav on... mitte need kes siin lips kaelas ringi tolknevad.. vaid päris..
2 August 2016 12:04
Margus Meigo replied to Mikk Lille's comment.
kõigiga
2 August 2016 08:34
Margus Meigo replied to Mikk Lille's comment.
nagu päevik, enda märgete jaoks, tuleviku tarvis
2 August 2016 08:33
Margus Meigo replied to Mikk Lille's comment.
lihtsalt need kes sovivad, võivad ka vahepeale rääkida, selline avalik versioon
2 August 2016 08:33
Margus Meigo replied to Mikk Lille's comment.
see mu märkme raamat siin
2 August 2016 08:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või vast mitte nii kaua, piisab 5-7 põlvest järjest ühesuunalist arenemist ehk koos vaimu tööriistadega, kuid jah, saaksime taimede ja põhlitenegi alguses, siis muutub meeletult suur osa maailmast lihtsamaks, rikkamaks, kergemaks, rahulikumaks ja inimesed rikkamaks oma meelte ja teadmiste osas
1 August 2016 23:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Väga-Väga vaimses plaanis on Sul vast õigus, kuid sinnamaani jõudmaks, peaksime esimesed sammud enne ära tegema, veel partuhat aastat arengut...
1 August 2016 23:45
Margus Meigo replied to Jaak La's comment.
kuid eelkõige me toodame igavese hulga kurjasti mõtlevaid, looma ihades, madalamõtelisemaid inimesi, kui neid looma toidupeal hoiame.
On ka jah, erandeid, kellele ei mõju nii kurjasti, sest süda hea, kuid suurele osale nõrgema spermaga tehtud inimestele, kes pole armastusest sündinud, mõjuvad need asjad kohe väga väga nõrgestavalt ja kurjasti.. nad isegi teiste õigete toitude maitset ei tunne, nagu filmides, zombid, ku ireaalselt võrrelda.
Kuid jah, kujuta nüüd ette.. neid kes suudavad loomadega suhestuda ja siis nod peaksid loomi süüma...
ja loomulikult kõik tiamed pole ka õiged taimed, on väär tiamed ja väär teele viivad tiamed, mida ei tohiks süüa.
Siin maal igast need välismaised puuviljad on ka paras rämps mida ei peaks me sööma
On ka jah, erandeid, kellele ei mõju nii kurjasti, sest süda hea, kuid suurele osale nõrgema spermaga tehtud inimestele, kes pole armastusest sündinud, mõjuvad need asjad kohe väga väga nõrgestavalt ja kurjasti.. nad isegi teiste õigete toitude maitset ei tunne, nagu filmides, zombid, ku ireaalselt võrrelda.
Kuid jah, kujuta nüüd ette.. neid kes suudavad loomadega suhestuda ja siis nod peaksid loomi süüma...
ja loomulikult kõik tiamed pole ka õiged taimed, on väär tiamed ja väär teele viivad tiamed, mida ei tohiks süüa.
Siin maal igast need välismaised puuviljad on ka paras rämps mida ei peaks me sööma
1 August 2016 23:41
Margus Meigo replied to Jaak La's comment.
taimed tehti Jumala poolt söögiks,
Looduse poolt
Loomad aga EI ole inimloomale asjakohalikud, ega tervislikud ega vajalikud toidud,
neid saab kasutada jah, eri maagiate ja väevõimude ajutiseks sisse tõmbamiseks ku ivaja tapma minna, kuid ei ole vaja siisn ennast nüristada pidevalt, eriti rahuajal, kus siis ise endale sõda ja vaeva kaela tirime regulaarselt, sest aju ja mõistus ka teismtoodi teise toiduga hakkab mõtlema, suuremad ja peenemad mõtted ei pääsegi löögile, sest madalas nö vibratsioonis jääb aju võnkuma, ja päevaks ajaks rohkem ei jaksagi.
Suures plaanis teeb inimesi liha ka nõrgemaks, sest nas siis vajavad rohkem süüa, et seda saasta kehast välja saada, ja mitte mürgitust saada. Kui ainult liha süüa siis inimesne saab mürgituse juba nädala paariga hakkab keha närbuma.
Isegi kuiva leiba süües veega, sellist effekti ei teki
Looduse poolt
Loomad aga EI ole inimloomale asjakohalikud, ega tervislikud ega vajalikud toidud,
neid saab kasutada jah, eri maagiate ja väevõimude ajutiseks sisse tõmbamiseks ku ivaja tapma minna, kuid ei ole vaja siisn ennast nüristada pidevalt, eriti rahuajal, kus siis ise endale sõda ja vaeva kaela tirime regulaarselt, sest aju ja mõistus ka teismtoodi teise toiduga hakkab mõtlema, suuremad ja peenemad mõtted ei pääsegi löögile, sest madalas nö vibratsioonis jääb aju võnkuma, ja päevaks ajaks rohkem ei jaksagi.
Suures plaanis teeb inimesi liha ka nõrgemaks, sest nas siis vajavad rohkem süüa, et seda saasta kehast välja saada, ja mitte mürgitust saada. Kui ainult liha süüa siis inimesne saab mürgituse juba nädala paariga hakkab keha närbuma.
Isegi kuiva leiba süües veega, sellist effekti ei teki
1 August 2016 23:37
Margus Meigo replied to Jaak La's comment.
õnapuud ilma suurema vaevata kasvavad ise viljad, neid saab kuivatada, keeta, jne
narised psüvad maasees kaks aastat, sobivad süüa koos vartega, troorelt ja keedetult, tervislikud,
ja mida me siin leiutame ?
narised psüvad maasees kaks aastat, sobivad süüa koos vartega, troorelt ja keedetult, tervislikud,
ja mida me siin leiutame ?
1 August 2016 23:34
Margus Meigo replied to Jaak La's comment.
võrreldes tavoti söömisega on jah, parem
1 August 2016 23:33
Margus Meigo replied to Jaak La's comment.
kus inimene sellise mõtte tõi, et meil teiste loomade lastele mõeldud piima peame ise kõõnima ja et see kasulik peaks meile olema... oeh
1 August 2016 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to Jaak La's comment.
inimesed on liiga äärmuslikud, et kui loomi mõrvata ei saa siis jätame kogu rohelise ka järgi .,
TAIMED tehti ju söögiks,
ja kes oma talus soovib .. toimetagu, müügu naabrile edasi... ei ole lihtsalt vaja neid mass lautasi ja haigeid surma orrdusi
Ja jumala ees., veel nõuda toetusi ka, et saaks loomi piinata, on ikka arulagedus,
Saaks aru, et siis kallikate ja maasikate kasvatuse, või metsa hoolduse jaoks
TAIMED tehti ju söögiks,
ja kes oma talus soovib .. toimetagu, müügu naabrile edasi... ei ole lihtsalt vaja neid mass lautasi ja haigeid surma orrdusi
Ja jumala ees., veel nõuda toetusi ka, et saaks loomi piinata, on ikka arulagedus,
Saaks aru, et siis kallikate ja maasikate kasvatuse, või metsa hoolduse jaoks
1 August 2016 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to Jaak La's comment.
ei, põllumajandus on ainuke asi mis maailma elu üleval hoiab,
Lihtsalt pole vaja majadada rasket tööd nõudvate vähe tolku andvate asjadega kes valukäes karjuvad
Lihtsalt pole vaja majadada rasket tööd nõudvate vähe tolku andvate asjadega kes valukäes karjuvad
1 August 2016 23:30
Margus Meigo commented on Siiri Alberg's photo.
Üli vedanud teil : )
1 August 2016 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1,384 shares algses postituses, tublid inimesed!
1 August 2016 22:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
krt teiseinimese traktor ära varastada, on ikka tegelased :(
1 August 2016 22:36
Margus Meigo commented on Vahur Sillasoo's post.
Kahju muidugi, et ära varastati..
1 August 2016 22:31
Margus Meigo commented on Vahur Sillasoo's post.
ooo, pro!
1 August 2016 22:31
Margus Meigo replied to Laisy Säde Deming's comment.
teeme reedel ?
1 August 2016 21:26
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
muidugi on, see ju liha, elementaarne
1 August 2016 21:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid see kogumik tasub läbilugeda, aitab õpetada sellise mõtlemise hinge arusaamu ja mõtte piiritust, mis piiris ja kuidas moodi mida promotakse.. ja kui palju ütleb mida ise usub ja miks
1 August 2016 20:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ime siis pole, et mees ainult piiritaga, välismaakeeles,Eestivastast juttu julgeb rääkida, nagu ikka, siin käivad lupardid Eestit maha tegemas muule ilmale
" Kesknoored Vilniuses: suutsime paljudele selgeks teha, et Eestist on saanud suur sotsiaalne probleem"
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/kesknoored-vilniuses-suutsime-paljudele-selgeks-teha-et-eestist-on-saanud-suur-sotsiaalne-probleem?id=31474041
" Kesknoored Vilniuses: suutsime paljudele selgeks teha, et Eestist on saanud suur sotsiaalne probleem"
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/kesknoored-vilniuses-suutsime-paljudele-selgeks-teha-et-eestist-on-saanud-suur-sotsiaalne-probleem?id=31474041
1 August 2016 20:34
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Siis jääb meel selgeks, kui harva.
Noormead aga isegi harva ei peaks, neil pole põhjust ja õigust mu arust.
Noormead aga isegi harva ei peaks, neil pole põhjust ja õigust mu arust.
1 August 2016 19:48
Margus Meigo replied to Vicky Stolzenbach's comment.
whatever, if new generation billionaires will start to think, how to give their resources to donations, instead of starting to build up empires ?
How that can be whatever
How that can be whatever
1 August 2016 19:46
Margus Meigo replied to Vicky Stolzenbach's comment.
whatever what?
1 August 2016 17:52
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kuigi jah, väga kristlik mõte see mis ütlesid
1 August 2016 17:51
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
jah aga targem on ikka tarku kuulata, kes aru ka saavad mis rist on, millal kanda ja mida muul ajal teha tasuk
1 August 2016 17:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
igast kaunistusi võid ju oma kaela panna, kuid kui ikka nii suur soov on rsitikandmist mäletada, siis võta ikka üks päris roigas endale selga ja kõnni sellega ringi. Siis ikka kõrvade vaele ka kogub, et vaat kui ebamugav nüüd oleks kui sa töö asemele surma minema peaksid ja siis pekstakse ja mõnitatakse ka veel kõigi poolt kelle eest Sa sinna lähed.
Igast nips kaunistusi ja bling blingid nagu ei anna seda tunnetust. Mõni lausa joob viina või hoorab rist kaelas edasi, et nagu eks sa proovi seda teha kui sul 30+ kilo kaelas on ja veri voolab, vaata kuidas siis suits alla läheb.
Usklik ja suits ees, milline naeruväärne arusaam
Igast nips kaunistusi ja bling blingid nagu ei anna seda tunnetust. Mõni lausa joob viina või hoorab rist kaelas edasi, et nagu eks sa proovi seda teha kui sul 30+ kilo kaelas on ja veri voolab, vaata kuidas siis suits alla läheb.
Usklik ja suits ees, milline naeruväärne arusaam
1 August 2016 16:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Jumala vajadus on praktiline ja praktiline on see kui inimene elab nii, et see oleks Hea
Hea Soovlik
Hea Soovlik
1 August 2016 16:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi kui oled Kristluse tajunud, siis tasub juurde tunnetada Tao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv9zocKASsM
ja Lao Tsu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtVrxjjyfoc
Kuid siin maailmas, tuleb praktiliselt ikka meie enda asjad endale enne aluspinnaks võtta ja siis laiendada ja siduda, selleks, et ära tunda millised SELLE maailma targad sääl on.
Mõni puht eile sündinud küsib Tao mehe käest, et kas juba oled Kristuse oma päästjaks tunnistanud ja siis to lihtsalt mõtlikult sulle otsa vaatab imestuse,s et küll on jumal siia maailma küll igasuguseid müstilisi veidrike Loonud...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv9zocKASsM
ja Lao Tsu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtVrxjjyfoc
Kuid siin maailmas, tuleb praktiliselt ikka meie enda asjad endale enne aluspinnaks võtta ja siis laiendada ja siduda, selleks, et ära tunda millised SELLE maailma targad sääl on.
Mõni puht eile sündinud küsib Tao mehe käest, et kas juba oled Kristuse oma päästjaks tunnistanud ja siis to lihtsalt mõtlikult sulle otsa vaatab imestuse,s et küll on jumal siia maailma küll igasuguseid müstilisi veidrike Loonud...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv9zocKASsM
1 August 2016 16:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ega need satanad ja inimese vastased, või inimese maailma mitte fännavad olendid ja maaalgjõud ainult telerist ja viiinapudelist tule... või miskist perverdist lipsumehest või lipsuta mitte mehest.. vaid ikka väga suur osa on toidus kinni. KUid nagu enamus see liha liik siin kes teist liha järab on nii madalasse arengusse ennast viiinud, et elementaarsed oskused ja võimed on kadunud pideva ajudepehmendamise ja greeka roomaliku homoliku habeme ja juuste nsimistega, ja siis naiste blondeerimine ka.. see viib neid kohe ka armastusest eemale, ega nad siis enam maa algjõude tunneta, mõni eriti õrnameelne vel lõikab tuti ka endal alt ära enda keha höbenedes, et ikka iga tuul saaks kohe lükata kuhu iganes.. sest kui karvu pole siis mis sind kinni hoiab .. kui sa just väga väga tugev laiakaelaga skinn, viiking või mediteeria pole, ... siis ei tasu huupi neid karvu hakkida kui aru ei saada miks, on tarku kes seda omal põhimõttel teevad, teiste vaimuasjade ligi saamiseks või teiste vaimu, sydame asjad neid ei segaks, et saaksid turvalisemalt retsid ja karmid või tundetud olla... aga siis need kes seda moe ja "ilu" pärast teevad... nu anna olla... kui ilus on lammas kui talt villa maha ajad`? Või kitkutud kana ?
1 August 2016 15:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja kui kellegi vanemad kedagi rutiinselt piinasid või alandasid, sis nendele veel eriti palju tuleb tähelepanu panna, sest nad ju fak haiged ja ei saa ise hakkama ühiskonnas, kui nad oma lastegagi hakkama ei saanud,sellised satuvad kuskile korterisse või teleka ette, mõni asub veel suitsu ka imema või kes teab mida, et üda eriti kinni ja pimestatud oleks oma hingemustuse eest.
Ega südanmes on VÄGA raske päris kontakti saada kui inimene suitsetab. On küll vanakooli suitsetajaid, erineva DNA katekoorja vanemaid meil siin vanast ajast, kellel on teine keiss, kuid siin uuemad noormead väljaanded, kes pool pidusest paugust tehtud ilma plaanita, sellised veel suitsu või teleseriaalid endale ette panevad, siis nad täis vaimupuude ja hüpnoosi all, dileeriumis, ilma, et nad seda ise mõistaks (kahjuks enamasti ka lähedasd).
Sinna lisa nüüd veel juurde igast microdoosides deliiriumit elus hoidvad taimed.. ja noh..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atropa_belladonna
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanaceae -- loe seda
Ega südanmes on VÄGA raske päris kontakti saada kui inimene suitsetab. On küll vanakooli suitsetajaid, erineva DNA katekoorja vanemaid meil siin vanast ajast, kellel on teine keiss, kuid siin uuemad noormead väljaanded, kes pool pidusest paugust tehtud ilma plaanita, sellised veel suitsu või teleseriaalid endale ette panevad, siis nad täis vaimupuude ja hüpnoosi all, dileeriumis, ilma, et nad seda ise mõistaks (kahjuks enamasti ka lähedasd).
Sinna lisa nüüd veel juurde igast microdoosides deliiriumit elus hoidvad taimed.. ja noh..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atropa_belladonna
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanaceae -- loe seda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atropa_belladonna
1 August 2016 15:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid kuna me mitme elusüsteem isegus elame praegu, sest reaalsusi seotakse ja surutakse kokku, piirid lagunevad, (mitte veel maade piiri aga suuremad tähtsamad reaalsus piirid mis tegelikult inimesi eraldavad..) siis on vaja jah, siin eriti linna inimestel väga mitme asjaga kursis olla, et kindlsutada oma lasteLastele orjaduse vaba tulevik, sedasi, et nad SIND mäletaksid, kristall selge tuegvusega.
Praegune elu nii pervotiseeritud, et juba eluajal siin inimestel oma perekonnaliikmed hakkavad meelest minema ja kohe meelga ei soovitagi suhelda.. (ja siin pole vabandusi,et oo üks on joodik ja teine kuutöbine, faking armastada tuleb osata!)
Praegune elu nii pervotiseeritud, et juba eluajal siin inimestel oma perekonnaliikmed hakkavad meelest minema ja kohe meelga ei soovitagi suhelda.. (ja siin pole vabandusi,et oo üks on joodik ja teine kuutöbine, faking armastada tuleb osata!)
1 August 2016 15:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja siis täis seebod kes pole vaevunud suhte suurusest aru saama, tulevad jahuma omaaarust arusaamadest nagu "oo meil on vaja rohkem inimesi, et saaksime süsteemi üleval hoida..."
ahjaa, et kes siis pensioni makskaks ja... nu mida fakki, mis pensioni Sul siin planeedil enamuse aja makstud on muude systeemide poolt kui greeka-rooma jms orja süsteemide poolt. Et inimesi süsteemi külge orjastada ja oma perest eemaldada. Et nad üksteise peale mõtlema ei peaks ega kokku hoidma.
ahjaa, et kes siis pensioni makskaks ja... nu mida fakki, mis pensioni Sul siin planeedil enamuse aja makstud on muude systeemide poolt kui greeka-rooma jms orja süsteemide poolt. Et inimesi süsteemi külge orjastada ja oma perest eemaldada. Et nad üksteise peale mõtlema ei peaks ega kokku hoidma.
1 August 2016 15:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eesti on nii ülerahvastatud, et pühad Eestlased elevad nagu mass toodang üksteise otsas,
samamoodi nagu me oma kangu ja loomi mass talitame, ainult inimestel on "vabadus" teine karp endale valida.. ja enamasti ainult karp valitaksegi, kuskil õhus, teadmata mis mõtete ja oskustega inimesed ja mis põhjusel sul üleval või all elavad, ja kes naaber mida ja miks kuulab ja näha oskab teiselpool seina.
ja see on veel väike, teoreetiline probleem
samamoodi nagu me oma kangu ja loomi mass talitame, ainult inimestel on "vabadus" teine karp endale valida.. ja enamasti ainult karp valitaksegi, kuskil õhus, teadmata mis mõtete ja oskustega inimesed ja mis põhjusel sul üleval või all elavad, ja kes naaber mida ja miks kuulab ja näha oskab teiselpool seina.
ja see on veel väike, teoreetiline probleem
1 August 2016 15:32
Margus Meigo replied to Raju Reede's comment.
Ma ei saa ikka aru sellest küsimusest kui inimesed seda küsivad, keda mina pean või sina pole vahet oluline on kes ja kus on ja see kes on, see on.
Pole mõtet hakata ju siin leiutama juurde.
Jumal on mida a tajud ja aru saad. Ja kelle suunas töödad kõikide vahenditega nii kui saad, ja kellest õpid, otseste instruktsioonide ja kautsete müstiliste tekstide kaudu, et erinevaid inimemeeli tajuda ja siis osata seostada enast mitmes reaalsuses ja ajas
Minu arust see nii veider küsimus," keda jumalaks pead ", umbes nagu "keda sa emaks pead" nu see kes sünnitas, või mida koduplaneediks pead "nu see muld kus kasvad" või mida sa õhuks pead "nu see mida hingad"
keda jumalaks pead "nu see kes meid Loonud on enda suunas arenema ja keda kogu südamega pidevalt aidata tuleb, vaadatesseda kui Tema ja Sinu maailma, milles Sa oled mõttega, et oma jumalat aidata sinnasuunda, kus kõikidel inimestel ja loodusel on parem.
Ühed selgemad ja täpsemad, praktilisemad, lihtsamad kirjeldamised ja jumala tunnetuse instruktsioonid on meie kultuuris Juudidelt ja Kristlastelt, saab tajuda ka Moslemitelt ja mitmedelt maaneitside ja maausklikute läbi kui tarvis, kuid mitte nende läbi kes teiste vastu sõrgasi püsti ajavad, kes ka siiralt jumalasuunas soovivad areneda. Erinevas Loovuse kihis ja reaalsus astmes, inimesed erikiirustel ja suurustes arenevad puhtuse ja seluse suunas, sinna suunas, et nad ise lõpuks hakkama saavad, ilma paneel majade ja elektrita.
Neid võib muidugi kasutada, kuid kui Sa oled veel arenguastmes, kes ei suuda ilma robot systeemi, mähkmevahetus süsteemita elada (kusnupule vajutades kaka läheb ei tea kuhu ja sa isegi ei mõtle miks ja kuhu.. ega see siis päris elu pole..) siis onvaja sellest edasi areneda, ja õnnelikud kes selle ülipika 100 aastase elu jooksul seda tehtud saavad ja toppama ei jää trikkidesse ja takistustesse.
Ega see mis siin silmaga näidatakse, et vaat kui tore linn.. ega se siis reaalsus pole... mõtle sutsu mis TEGELIKULT looduse osas linnas toimub..
Eesti on VÄga üle rahvastatud, Ammu juba. Selleks, et normaalset jumalaga kooskõlas elu elada, kuidmuidugi saaks ka neis karpidesja mööda asfalteed paljuparemini... kuid see pea võimatu, sest ajuained muudetakse ja toitu süüakse selliseid, mis inimestel jätab sarnase dileeriumi tiksuma, kyll eri versioonis enamasti, kuid sarnase, kus nad elementaarsest aru ei saa Mis on elu. ja kuidas seda tuleb ELUS materialist üles ehitada. Ega see siis siin Linnas pole Edasi areng... see on arengu katastroofilise suurusega surm, mis kogu kultuuri siit 500 aastaga jäädavaks pühib, mis me uhkusega Jumala seljataga siin 10 000 aastat vaat et hoidnud oleme, maausu järgi. Olgugi,et ilm olgu siis 6000 aastat vana enamuste jaoks,sest siis suur osa praegusest liigist kes siin ringi tatsab tehti. Paaritati, tekitati, istutati.
Mitmed linnad juba minevikust maha kistud on, millal inimesedõpivad, etnende perel on vaja poolkilomeetrit vabat rumi enda majal, vähemalt. et vaimul ja elul ruumi oleks.
aga ei, ronitakse üksteise otsa nagu perverdid.
Ja seda juttu kirjutan ka lasnamäe korterist praegu, Kuigi võiksinseda ka kadaka teel puude vahel teha,
Või veelgi parem maal õe,või ema ligikonnas, võisadades tühjades taludes millesse rändurid sisse salaja kolivad, sest kes neid loeb..
Neid linnasi on vaja ainlt nii palju, et ülejäänud maailma tagasi oma kodust hoida, Filtri süsteemiks,et igasugusedei satuks maale platserdama oma jalgadega, ja muude vähem asjalikumate jaoks.. või saamatumate jaoks.
Sest on ikka SUUR väärtuse vahe jumalal, kas mornil kontoris toksid arvutisse numbreid mille lõpp töö vajalikusest ja väärtusest enamus ei tea, ja siis maksad keskütet mis iseenesest sul tagumikku soendab või toksid endale pere kasvatatud puid, talveks. ja siis neid lõhnavaid väärtusi ise tood tuppa ja siis ka maha istutad.
Loomulikult, siin tasu ka lisaks vaadata veel muid energiaid, sest need selleks arendataks,e et loodust veelgi hoida.. kuid mitte selleks,et loodust unustada. Näiteks kütteks ja ehituseks saab kasutada ka kanepi hembi briketti, kasvad 4 metrit aastas ja likvideerib ise umbrohu, et pole vaja mürgitada ega midagi. Lihtsalt kutsu sepad ja tehke pressid valmis.
Ja siis aega veel edais mõelda, kuidas paremaks saada.
Selleks muidugi on looduses taimed olema,s mis Sulle selliseid tehnoloogiaid ja aegu saavad näidata, mida pole Sa ühesti filmist ka näinud, et ennast siit mülkast välja tuua ja oma palehigi armastuse tegevuseks saaksid transformeerida.
Ja selleks pole vaja enamasti ka loomi orjata. Kuid selle lopliku inimese käitumine ja toitumine, motlemine, mis siis ta on kui valmis saanud, on nii naturaalne ja tervislik ning erinev praegusest, et see tõesti tundub teisne liik olema, kui neid hiljem kõrvutama hakata, sest ikkagi elus toidus ja elus mõtetes, elu suunalistes mõtetes on tarkused ja tunnetused, need tulevad vahest paari pevaga rohkem Sulle peale koos arusaamaga, kui mitme instituudi kogum kes rituaalselt oma karpides kohtuvad ja kõrget tööd teevad oma silmis.
Sellepärast päris kuninglikud ja kõrge arenguga inimesed enam ammu ei käi linnades ja karpideskohtumas, sest nad elementaarset veel teavad või aru saavad.
Vahepeal peab teiste jaoks muidugi käima.. et rahvast mõtlema panna, et "mis nad Veel teevad ja kus on..?"
Pole mõtet hakata ju siin leiutama juurde.
Jumal on mida a tajud ja aru saad. Ja kelle suunas töödad kõikide vahenditega nii kui saad, ja kellest õpid, otseste instruktsioonide ja kautsete müstiliste tekstide kaudu, et erinevaid inimemeeli tajuda ja siis osata seostada enast mitmes reaalsuses ja ajas
Minu arust see nii veider küsimus," keda jumalaks pead ", umbes nagu "keda sa emaks pead" nu see kes sünnitas, või mida koduplaneediks pead "nu see muld kus kasvad" või mida sa õhuks pead "nu see mida hingad"
keda jumalaks pead "nu see kes meid Loonud on enda suunas arenema ja keda kogu südamega pidevalt aidata tuleb, vaadatesseda kui Tema ja Sinu maailma, milles Sa oled mõttega, et oma jumalat aidata sinnasuunda, kus kõikidel inimestel ja loodusel on parem.
Ühed selgemad ja täpsemad, praktilisemad, lihtsamad kirjeldamised ja jumala tunnetuse instruktsioonid on meie kultuuris Juudidelt ja Kristlastelt, saab tajuda ka Moslemitelt ja mitmedelt maaneitside ja maausklikute läbi kui tarvis, kuid mitte nende läbi kes teiste vastu sõrgasi püsti ajavad, kes ka siiralt jumalasuunas soovivad areneda. Erinevas Loovuse kihis ja reaalsus astmes, inimesed erikiirustel ja suurustes arenevad puhtuse ja seluse suunas, sinna suunas, et nad ise lõpuks hakkama saavad, ilma paneel majade ja elektrita.
Neid võib muidugi kasutada, kuid kui Sa oled veel arenguastmes, kes ei suuda ilma robot systeemi, mähkmevahetus süsteemita elada (kusnupule vajutades kaka läheb ei tea kuhu ja sa isegi ei mõtle miks ja kuhu.. ega see siis päris elu pole..) siis onvaja sellest edasi areneda, ja õnnelikud kes selle ülipika 100 aastase elu jooksul seda tehtud saavad ja toppama ei jää trikkidesse ja takistustesse.
Ega see mis siin silmaga näidatakse, et vaat kui tore linn.. ega se siis reaalsus pole... mõtle sutsu mis TEGELIKULT looduse osas linnas toimub..
Eesti on VÄga üle rahvastatud, Ammu juba. Selleks, et normaalset jumalaga kooskõlas elu elada, kuidmuidugi saaks ka neis karpidesja mööda asfalteed paljuparemini... kuid see pea võimatu, sest ajuained muudetakse ja toitu süüakse selliseid, mis inimestel jätab sarnase dileeriumi tiksuma, kyll eri versioonis enamasti, kuid sarnase, kus nad elementaarsest aru ei saa Mis on elu. ja kuidas seda tuleb ELUS materialist üles ehitada. Ega see siis siin Linnas pole Edasi areng... see on arengu katastroofilise suurusega surm, mis kogu kultuuri siit 500 aastaga jäädavaks pühib, mis me uhkusega Jumala seljataga siin 10 000 aastat vaat et hoidnud oleme, maausu järgi. Olgugi,et ilm olgu siis 6000 aastat vana enamuste jaoks,sest siis suur osa praegusest liigist kes siin ringi tatsab tehti. Paaritati, tekitati, istutati.
Mitmed linnad juba minevikust maha kistud on, millal inimesedõpivad, etnende perel on vaja poolkilomeetrit vabat rumi enda majal, vähemalt. et vaimul ja elul ruumi oleks.
aga ei, ronitakse üksteise otsa nagu perverdid.
Ja seda juttu kirjutan ka lasnamäe korterist praegu, Kuigi võiksinseda ka kadaka teel puude vahel teha,
Või veelgi parem maal õe,või ema ligikonnas, võisadades tühjades taludes millesse rändurid sisse salaja kolivad, sest kes neid loeb..
Neid linnasi on vaja ainlt nii palju, et ülejäänud maailma tagasi oma kodust hoida, Filtri süsteemiks,et igasugusedei satuks maale platserdama oma jalgadega, ja muude vähem asjalikumate jaoks.. või saamatumate jaoks.
Sest on ikka SUUR väärtuse vahe jumalal, kas mornil kontoris toksid arvutisse numbreid mille lõpp töö vajalikusest ja väärtusest enamus ei tea, ja siis maksad keskütet mis iseenesest sul tagumikku soendab või toksid endale pere kasvatatud puid, talveks. ja siis neid lõhnavaid väärtusi ise tood tuppa ja siis ka maha istutad.
Loomulikult, siin tasu ka lisaks vaadata veel muid energiaid, sest need selleks arendataks,e et loodust veelgi hoida.. kuid mitte selleks,et loodust unustada. Näiteks kütteks ja ehituseks saab kasutada ka kanepi hembi briketti, kasvad 4 metrit aastas ja likvideerib ise umbrohu, et pole vaja mürgitada ega midagi. Lihtsalt kutsu sepad ja tehke pressid valmis.
Ja siis aega veel edais mõelda, kuidas paremaks saada.
Selleks muidugi on looduses taimed olema,s mis Sulle selliseid tehnoloogiaid ja aegu saavad näidata, mida pole Sa ühesti filmist ka näinud, et ennast siit mülkast välja tuua ja oma palehigi armastuse tegevuseks saaksid transformeerida.
Ja selleks pole vaja enamasti ka loomi orjata. Kuid selle lopliku inimese käitumine ja toitumine, motlemine, mis siis ta on kui valmis saanud, on nii naturaalne ja tervislik ning erinev praegusest, et see tõesti tundub teisne liik olema, kui neid hiljem kõrvutama hakata, sest ikkagi elus toidus ja elus mõtetes, elu suunalistes mõtetes on tarkused ja tunnetused, need tulevad vahest paari pevaga rohkem Sulle peale koos arusaamaga, kui mitme instituudi kogum kes rituaalselt oma karpides kohtuvad ja kõrget tööd teevad oma silmis.
Sellepärast päris kuninglikud ja kõrge arenguga inimesed enam ammu ei käi linnades ja karpideskohtumas, sest nad elementaarset veel teavad või aru saavad.
Vahepeal peab teiste jaoks muidugi käima.. et rahvast mõtlema panna, et "mis nad Veel teevad ja kus on..?"
1 August 2016 15:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
töökohal jah, iga päev võiks paar tundi inimeste vastuvõttu olla, see aitaks oma rahvast tunda ja inimesi siduda. Kuid need inimesed peaks ka grupeerima oma probleemidaga ja nende küsimused avalikustama kui lubavad, et samu asju palju kordi ei küsitaks
1 August 2016 15:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
kodu on ikka kodu inimesel
1 August 2016 15:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
ja siis pead järgmine päev varakult teles olema.. kaua nii ei saks
1 August 2016 15:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kujuta ette, mingi purjus kamp tuleb sul uksetaha kell 4 öösel, küsima asjadest millest nad aru ei saa
1 August 2016 15:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
muidugi kui iga üks käiks ja koputaks mu uksel pidevalt, siis vist jääksid muud asjad tegematta
kuid jah, twitteris on olemas vestlusvõimalus ka
kuid jah, twitteris on olemas vestlusvõimalus ka
1 August 2016 14:59
Margus Meigo commented on Sander Laanemaa's post.
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No brainier who would we choose as a wife, if we would be worth1 August 2016 14:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
on väga palju olukordi, kus inimestel ainuke töö mis oli võimalik neil saada oma teada, oli inimeste kooorimine, ja nad loobusid sellest, et mitte oma hinge kollile anda, samamoodi, mis neidolukorda pani... ja siis noh...
ega siin lihtne pole kaineks jääda paljudel neil, kuid paljud neiist on ka, kuid ka see enam ei aita, kui märgitud oled...
sest viimane asi mida lipsumehed seedivad, kui keegi kes on põhjas uuesti üles tuleb ja innustama teisi hakkab, et see võimaik on... sest energia kollidel vaja ka oma amps saada inimestelt, keda keegi ei loe..
ega siin lihtne pole kaineks jääda paljudel neil, kuid paljud neiist on ka, kuid ka see enam ei aita, kui märgitud oled...
sest viimane asi mida lipsumehed seedivad, kui keegi kes on põhjas uuesti üles tuleb ja innustama teisi hakkab, et see võimaik on... sest energia kollidel vaja ka oma amps saada inimestelt, keda keegi ei loe..
1 August 2016 14:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Keskerakonna linnavalitsus pani mu teada kinni kõik supiköögid järgemööda,
ja alguses arvasin ka, ettänaval parmud elavad ainult, kuid sis hakkad vaatama, mis probleemidega kes ja kuidas tegelikult tänaval on, ja väga väga paljudel on ikka lubamatu olukord, kes sinna on suunatud sest korterid ära võetud, lahku minnes elust ilma jäänud ja siis depresioonis rongist maha jäänud või viga saanud ja mustusesse kinni jäänud jne jne...
Isegi narva elektri jaama insenäre ja muid tarkadel kohtadel olevaid vanamehi oli, kes ühte või teisi pidi teeninud inimesi aastakümneid ja siis... nüüd uuerd peal ja vanasi pold vaja...
Jah, eesti kultuuris peaks igal ühel omal mõistus peal olema, et kuidas elama ja hakkama saada, kuid need kes polnud nõus varastama, petma ega valetama või lipitsema lipsumeeste ees, väga paljud said valusalt peksa, sest olid südamega, asi polnud selles, et peaküljes niipalju lahti oli, kui vaid paljudel oli südames see asi... ja hakkasid selle süsteemi robotlikust vaatama... ja see hirmus asi milese saab kergesti kinni jääda, kui seda märkad...
kui samas tuhinas tuhistad, siis pea võimatu ilma psyhdeelikumideta seda märgata mis on linna ja maa vahe
ja alguses arvasin ka, ettänaval parmud elavad ainult, kuid sis hakkad vaatama, mis probleemidega kes ja kuidas tegelikult tänaval on, ja väga väga paljudel on ikka lubamatu olukord, kes sinna on suunatud sest korterid ära võetud, lahku minnes elust ilma jäänud ja siis depresioonis rongist maha jäänud või viga saanud ja mustusesse kinni jäänud jne jne...
Isegi narva elektri jaama insenäre ja muid tarkadel kohtadel olevaid vanamehi oli, kes ühte või teisi pidi teeninud inimesi aastakümneid ja siis... nüüd uuerd peal ja vanasi pold vaja...
Jah, eesti kultuuris peaks igal ühel omal mõistus peal olema, et kuidas elama ja hakkama saada, kuid need kes polnud nõus varastama, petma ega valetama või lipitsema lipsumeeste ees, väga paljud said valusalt peksa, sest olid südamega, asi polnud selles, et peaküljes niipalju lahti oli, kui vaid paljudel oli südames see asi... ja hakkasid selle süsteemi robotlikust vaatama... ja see hirmus asi milese saab kergesti kinni jääda, kui seda märkad...
kui samas tuhinas tuhistad, siis pea võimatu ilma psyhdeelikumideta seda märgata mis on linna ja maa vahe
1 August 2016 14:48
Margus Meigo commented on Alek Sander's post.
mismoodi see asjale kaasa aitab kui kogu maailma peale inimesed laiali laotame
põllumajandust tuleb õppida kus saab ja ülejääänudele selgitada kuidas elulood on ja koos proovida imbidel igast toxilist saasta teiste randa ja põldudele kallata, et neil loodus kohtasi alles oleks
põllumajandust tuleb õppida kus saab ja ülejääänudele selgitada kuidas elulood on ja koos proovida imbidel igast toxilist saasta teiste randa ja põldudele kallata, et neil loodus kohtasi alles oleks
31 July 2016 21:25
Margus Meigo commented on Alek Sander's post.
Geniaalne
31 July 2016 21:23
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja me räägime, nädalasest testist,
võrdle karpide haisu nüüd maasikate ja muudega..
võrdle karpide haisu nüüd maasikate ja muudega..
31 July 2016 21:05
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ei nad haise midagi, võrreldes piima ja lihaga. Maasikad ei jäta kunagi surma lõhna isegi kui väga väga halba olukorda need jätta
31 July 2016 21:04
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Just, sellepärast ei tohigi käärinud asju tarbida,
pole alkohole juba ammused aastad tarbinud, isegi viinamarjuei söö
pole alkohole juba ammused aastad tarbinud, isegi viinamarjuei söö
31 July 2016 21:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
31 July 2016 20:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
ups, wrong ilves
https://twitter.com/IlvesToomas Toomas Hendrik Ilves
https://twitter.com/IlvesToomas Toomas Hendrik Ilves
https://twitter.com/IlvesToomas
31 July 2016 20:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Supikööki soovitan muidu inimestel täitsa veel minna, kui neid veel olemas on tallinnas, või mujal, väga südamlikude inimestega saad seal kokku, näha reaalseid muresi ja reaalseid lugusi ja reaalseid probleeme,
mitte mingi liisingu või aktsiate probleemid
vaid seda näiteks, et kas sul jag mädaneb otsast ära ja saad surmava mürgituse aasta lõpuks või saab midagi teha, selles osas, et paar laksutajat mingi vanainimese kondid või pea puruks lõid kes nüüd vaevu söögikohanigi jõuab
ja palju muud
mitte mingi liisingu või aktsiate probleemid
vaid seda näiteks, et kas sul jag mädaneb otsast ära ja saad surmava mürgituse aasta lõpuks või saab midagi teha, selles osas, et paar laksutajat mingi vanainimese kondid või pea puruks lõid kes nüüd vaevu söögikohanigi jõuab
ja palju muud
31 July 2016 20:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
uuriks, kas ta oskad alla 15, 25 euroga kuus ära elada,
mitte, et mul enamasti nii palju oleks vaja..
või et tema maksab maksu mu pealt..
on ikka imbi
kuid kohe kui mehelt lips ära võtta ja tolguse riided, ja habe ka kasvatada, siis saab asja ka vast
Kui juba lausa lehma lüpsnud oli ja puha
mitte, et mul enamasti nii palju oleks vaja..
või et tema maksab maksu mu pealt..
on ikka imbi
kuid kohe kui mehelt lips ära võtta ja tolguse riided, ja habe ka kasvatada, siis saab asja ka vast
Kui juba lausa lehma lüpsnud oli ja puha
31 July 2016 19:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
selles osas peab ikka kokku saama, ja ise selgitust nõudma, kindlasti kunagi leiab selleks aega.
31 July 2016 19:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi ta mõtles, ehk vast raha numbrit, kuid sellegi eest, päris haige ideoloogia kui sinna otsa miskit selgitust ei tule
31 July 2016 19:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vau," inimene on olulisem kui number" milline faking ajugeenius, mis asja välja oma peaga mõtles,
kuid seda ka arvatavasti pidi oma EBS i haridusega arvutama, et kui palju ikka ja kuidas inimene toodab ja kas ta ikka on olulisem..
Normaalne inimene ei hakka selist võrdlust tooma ju, see on nagu keegi ütleks omaarust suure uhkusega "mulle maitseb maasikas paremini kui tühi patarei" - like What? So fak what? Tüsi ka v, elementaarne ju, kuidas üldse nii mõelda saab, et oleks teistmoodi., Kah mul asi millega oma ideoloogiat kokku võtta.
Eriti arvestades, et kui keegi on mõned korrad supiköögis käinud, talle teadmatudel asjaoludel, siis hakata teda parasiidiks sõimama, hästi "inimene olulisem kui number" ideoloogia küll.
kuid seda ka arvatavasti pidi oma EBS i haridusega arvutama, et kui palju ikka ja kuidas inimene toodab ja kas ta ikka on olulisem..
Normaalne inimene ei hakka selist võrdlust tooma ju, see on nagu keegi ütleks omaarust suure uhkusega "mulle maitseb maasikas paremini kui tühi patarei" - like What? So fak what? Tüsi ka v, elementaarne ju, kuidas üldse nii mõelda saab, et oleks teistmoodi., Kah mul asi millega oma ideoloogiat kokku võtta.
Eriti arvestades, et kui keegi on mõned korrad supiköögis käinud, talle teadmatudel asjaoludel, siis hakata teda parasiidiks sõimama, hästi "inimene olulisem kui number" ideoloogia küll.
31 July 2016 19:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Ideoloogia
Priit Kutser on vasaktsentrist. Kutser on öelnud: "Seega, mina, olles keskerakondlane, ei ole parempoolne ega ka vasakpoolne, olen keskel, olen tsentrist. Jah, veidi vasakule kaldu, kuna inimene on meie jaoks arvudest olulisem."
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priit_Kutser
toa koristamise aegas polnutki aega siin väga keskenduda kemplemisele, kuid noh, on ikka vasak sentrist küll,
või et tema maksumaksmise armust siin elatakse.. nu on ikka mees
kahju, et ära jooksis ja siis pani veel Ploki ka peale, nagu sai ette öeldud.. et no on koomik.
Mehele piisab kui üks mees tõsiselt ütleb, et ära enam kirjuta ja miks ja mis seis on, aga sedasi viimane sõna endale võtta omaarust, see ka ebasõbralik ja siis blokkida, mis keheknpüksidest poliitikuid meil siin kasvatatakse
oleks tahtnud veel alles magusamaid palasi lahkama, eks läks niigi hästi, et enne lipsas kui keskenduda sain,
Oleks tahtnud arutada, tema ühiskondliku armastuse ideoloogiat,
ei hakanud veel isegi ehmatama mest tõsielufaktiga, et ikka ta ei maksa miskit maksu tasuta asjade pealt prügikastist ja mujalt.
Lisaks, need summad mis järgi uurisin, mida kesklinna valitsus supikökidele nö erastas suure suuga 50 000 ja rohkemgi veel , (vist üks avalik köök VEEL on alles kogu harjumal, seda ka jooksutavad usklikutest vabatahtlikud) .. et ei tea mida selle eest osti ja kuhu erastasid selle.,
leivad on ka tasuta supiköögis, sest tuuakse mis leiburis üle.
.
Priit Kutser on vasaktsentrist. Kutser on öelnud: "Seega, mina, olles keskerakondlane, ei ole parempoolne ega ka vasakpoolne, olen keskel, olen tsentrist. Jah, veidi vasakule kaldu, kuna inimene on meie jaoks arvudest olulisem."
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priit_Kutser
toa koristamise aegas polnutki aega siin väga keskenduda kemplemisele, kuid noh, on ikka vasak sentrist küll,
või et tema maksumaksmise armust siin elatakse.. nu on ikka mees
kahju, et ära jooksis ja siis pani veel Ploki ka peale, nagu sai ette öeldud.. et no on koomik.
Mehele piisab kui üks mees tõsiselt ütleb, et ära enam kirjuta ja miks ja mis seis on, aga sedasi viimane sõna endale võtta omaarust, see ka ebasõbralik ja siis blokkida, mis keheknpüksidest poliitikuid meil siin kasvatatakse
oleks tahtnud veel alles magusamaid palasi lahkama, eks läks niigi hästi, et enne lipsas kui keskenduda sain,
Oleks tahtnud arutada, tema ühiskondliku armastuse ideoloogiat,
ei hakanud veel isegi ehmatama mest tõsielufaktiga, et ikka ta ei maksa miskit maksu tasuta asjade pealt prügikastist ja mujalt.
Lisaks, need summad mis järgi uurisin, mida kesklinna valitsus supikökidele nö erastas suure suuga 50 000 ja rohkemgi veel , (vist üks avalik köök VEEL on alles kogu harjumal, seda ka jooksutavad usklikutest vabatahtlikud) .. et ei tea mida selle eest osti ja kuhu erastasid selle.,
leivad on ka tasuta supiköögis, sest tuuakse mis leiburis üle.
.
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priit_Kutser
31 July 2016 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sama siin ,tegin isegi blogi posti sellest, muidu läheb kaotsi :D
http://margus-meigo.blogspot.com.ee/2016/07/savisaare-arvatav-sohilaps-priit-kutser.html
http://margus-meigo.blogspot.com.ee/2016/07/savisaare-arvatav-sohilaps-priit-kutser.html
http://margus-meigo.blogspot.com.ee/2016/07/savisaare-arvatav-sohilaps-priit-kutser.html
31 July 2016 18:03
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
ja sõprade armastusest
31 July 2016 17:56
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
isegi kui ma oleks käinud sel aastal supiköökides, mis on täitsa fain, sa ise ei julge muidugi oma lipsuga minna sinna.. igathes, isegi kui oleks.. umm mis arvad siis mis parasiitlus, kust see elu siianitulnud on,
erinevalt ühiskonna homodest ma ei nõua mingeid hyvitisi, ei saa toetusi ega muud sellist, vaid elan Jumala Armust
erinevalt ühiskonna homodest ma ei nõua mingeid hyvitisi, ei saa toetusi ega muud sellist, vaid elan Jumala Armust
31 July 2016 17:55
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
näe endiselt.. sa jahud ja jahud aga sa vist endiselt ei suuda välja lugeda.. et umm...
MIS parasiitlusest Sa jahud ?
MIS parasiitlusest Sa jahud ?
31 July 2016 17:54
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
mis rohud?
31 July 2016 17:53
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
kõigepealt ma hakkan Sulle andma, ja kohe nii et on,
küll ühiskond veel ootab ja saab oma jao
küll ühiskond veel ootab ja saab oma jao
31 July 2016 17:53
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
sa ikka vaatasid ka mis luureasutuse mees selle artili tegi ja kui targa muu lisa mõttega ja miks v?
31 July 2016 17:52
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
mis kulul elamise juttu sa jahud, kus kulul keegi elanud on?
31 July 2016 17:52
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
me räägime kooselamisest, elatakse mitutmoodi
31 July 2016 17:51
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Naisterahvas loomulikult.
Ja kui ka oleks meesterahvas,
mis sinulsellest?
Ja kui ka oleks meesterahvas,
mis sinulsellest?
31 July 2016 17:50
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Sa ikka eeldad vastavalt oma fantaasiale kulla mees
seda muidugi näha ka.. et päris korras see interneti profiil pole ja vabamüürlaste homo ringidel ka käid v?
Ikka tead, et on neid vabamüürlasi ka, kes vabalt ei peagi homod olema ja neid saata riistasi neelama eks ? Anna teada oma parteikaaslastele,
On kuninlikud ordud ka olemas
seda muidugi näha ka.. et päris korras see interneti profiil pole ja vabamüürlaste homo ringidel ka käid v?
Ikka tead, et on neid vabamüürlasi ka, kes vabalt ei peagi homod olema ja neid saata riistasi neelama eks ? Anna teada oma parteikaaslastele,
On kuninlikud ordud ka olemas
31 July 2016 17:50
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
saa nii lapsekingades, ei saa aru mis LSD isegi on veel :D
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b&biw=1366&bih=659&q=silicon+valley+lsd+cnn+OR+lsd&oq=silicon+valley+lsd+cnn+OR+lsd&gs_l=serp.3...2251.23421.0.23825.17.11.6.0.0.0.385.1283.0j7j0j1.8.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..3.10.525...0j0i22i30.5jUrYai2F4U
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b&biw=1366&bih=659&q=silicon+valley+lsd+cnn+OR+lsd&oq=silicon+valley+lsd+cnn+OR+lsd&gs_l=serp.3...2251.23421.0.23825.17.11.6.0.0.0.385.1283.0j7j0j1.8.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..3.10.525...0j0i22i30.5jUrYai2F4U
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b&biw=1366&bih=659&q=silicon+valley+lsd+cnn+OR+lsd&oq=silicon+valley+lsd+cnn+OR+lsd&gs_l=serp.3...2251.23421.0.23825.17.11.6.0.0.0.385.1283.0j7j0j1.8.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..3.10.525...0j0i22i30.5jUrYai2F4U
31 July 2016 17:49
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
ma olen koos elanud baltikumi tipp psühiaatriga, kui sind meeleseisund huvitab?
31 July 2016 17:47
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
suht irooniline, et mind parasiidiks pead, arvestades kes ise oled
hmm
hmm
31 July 2016 17:47
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
ja mis asjus siis floriidas olid, puhasid või midagi asjalikku ka ?
31 July 2016 17:46
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
mis siis enne ei öelnud, kiibitsed nagu teismeline plika, hoiad saladuses onma lehamlüpsi kogemusi
31 July 2016 17:45
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
selle veel uurime järgi
31 July 2016 17:45
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
mis talus see oli ?
31 July 2016 17:44
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
vot, selline mökk-mökk oletki
Suuga suure linna aga käega ei saa lehma nisagi katsutud
Suuga suure linna aga käega ei saa lehma nisagi katsutud
31 July 2016 17:43
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
oled või?`
Piima jood?
Piima jood?
31 July 2016 17:42
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Oled siis lehma nisa näppinud v?
31 July 2016 17:42
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Priit: ei segatoidulisus, sedasi nagu Sina aru saad, tähendab, meie mõistes, kes maailmast arusaavad, siis peastSEGI olevaid inimesi kes LÄBISEGI söövad mis ettejuhtub, nagu siga.
täis austuse juures seale, ise ma ka vesisea aastal sündinud.
Kuid jah, segatoiduline on et aju nii sassis, et inimene solgi ja päris toidu vahel, raipe ja taimetoidu vahel enam vahet ei tee
täis austuse juures seale, ise ma ka vesisea aastal sündinud.
Kuid jah, segatoiduline on et aju nii sassis, et inimene solgi ja päris toidu vahel, raipe ja taimetoidu vahel enam vahet ei tee
31 July 2016 17:39
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
ainuke psoitiivne omadus mis Sul praegu tundub olema, et näed välja füüsiliselt nagu savisaare sohilaps
ja respekt selles osas
Teame küll, et ametlikult Su vanaisa Nikolai Jaan Aleksandrov.. kuid noh..
http://uudised.tv3.ee/eesti/uudis/2016/02/23/ametist-lahkunud-priit-kutser-saab-6570-eurot-huvitist
https://www.google.ee/search?q=%22priit+kutser%22&num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&imgil=_8IYNp4CHvlmDM%253A%253BSqLdzWJHecKN6M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fuudised.tv3.ee%25252Feesti%25252Fuudis%25252F2016%25252F02%25252F23%25252Fametist-lahkunud-priit-kutser-saab-6570-eurot-huvitist&source=iu&pf=m&fir=_8IYNp4CHvlmDM%253A%252CSqLdzWJHecKN6M%252C_&usg=__7YVWtic8q2MZ0pqqa3uFj2Ql_HI%3D&biw=1366&bih=659&ved=0ahUKEwje3ZWF7Z3OAhWHlCwKHdrsD3AQyjcIJw&ei=9QKeV56PGoepsgHa2b-ABw#imgrc=_8IYNp4CHvlmDM%3A
ja respekt selles osas
Teame küll, et ametlikult Su vanaisa Nikolai Jaan Aleksandrov.. kuid noh..
http://uudised.tv3.ee/eesti/uudis/2016/02/23/ametist-lahkunud-priit-kutser-saab-6570-eurot-huvitist
https://www.google.ee/search?q=%22priit+kutser%22&num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&imgil=_8IYNp4CHvlmDM%253A%253BSqLdzWJHecKN6M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fuudised.tv3.ee%25252Feesti%25252Fuudis%25252F2016%25252F02%25252F23%25252Fametist-lahkunud-priit-kutser-saab-6570-eurot-huvitist&source=iu&pf=m&fir=_8IYNp4CHvlmDM%253A%252CSqLdzWJHecKN6M%252C_&usg=__7YVWtic8q2MZ0pqqa3uFj2Ql_HI%3D&biw=1366&bih=659&ved=0ahUKEwje3ZWF7Z3OAhWHlCwKHdrsD3AQyjcIJw&ei=9QKeV56PGoepsgHa2b-ABw#imgrc=_8IYNp4CHvlmDM%3A
http://uudised.tv3.ee/eesti/uudis/2016/02/23/ametist-lahkunud-priit-kutser-saab-6570-eurot-huvitist
31 July 2016 17:34
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
muidugi hea, et head soovid.
Ja soovitan ikka need lehmanisad ära näppida, siis saad ise ka oma pervertsustest ja interneti haiglastest ihadest aru,
ega internet nii privaatne ÜLDSE ei ole kui arvata siin laseme Sul
Ja soovitan ikka need lehmanisad ära näppida, siis saad ise ka oma pervertsustest ja interneti haiglastest ihadest aru,
ega internet nii privaatne ÜLDSE ei ole kui arvata siin laseme Sul
31 July 2016 17:30
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
(eeldatavad) faktid siis:
1) Keskerakonna armust usu illusioonis olev ülikonnas piimajoov memmekas kelle osas koolikaaslastel midagi head rääkida pole.
2) kes pole ise lehma nisagi lähedalt näinud ja muudel maadel käinud ega elu näinud
Tuleb elupõhisele hippile, maajuurtega inimesele, kes erinevates taludes kasvanud, siin jahuma asjadest?
Ja seda mis Sugupuust ma olen ,seda nii ropu vestluse peale isegi ei sünnimainida
1) Keskerakonna armust usu illusioonis olev ülikonnas piimajoov memmekas kelle osas koolikaaslastel midagi head rääkida pole.
2) kes pole ise lehma nisagi lähedalt näinud ja muudel maadel käinud ega elu näinud
Tuleb elupõhisele hippile, maajuurtega inimesele, kes erinevates taludes kasvanud, siin jahuma asjadest?
Ja seda mis Sugupuust ma olen ,seda nii ropu vestluse peale isegi ei sünnimainida
31 July 2016 17:28
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Olen elanud kolmel eri mandril, umm.. palju sa?
Mitme kultuuriga sul reaalne kogemus on ?
Mitme allilma gängide ja eri liikide arusaamadest?
Mida sa siin tuled plõksima oma liigast väga väljas olevate inimestega, täeisti arusaamatu noh,
selle vestluse osas, postitasin ajast ette juba Meemi taotluse ka seinale, enne
Mitme kultuuriga sul reaalne kogemus on ?
Mitme allilma gängide ja eri liikide arusaamadest?
Mida sa siin tuled plõksima oma liigast väga väljas olevate inimestega, täeisti arusaamatu noh,
selle vestluse osas, postitasin ajast ette juba Meemi taotluse ka seinale, enne
31 July 2016 17:26
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Läbi käinud üle MITMEKÜMNE maa, mitu maad sa oled ?
Umm.. mh? Mõned turismikad ehk?
Mina ja heidik? Ise käid lipsus nagu hilpharakas ringi, selliste peale maa rahvas ei viitsi irvitada ka kahjurõõmust ja tuled mulle siin jeesusest ja korrast ja maksudest jahuma, ise polekorralikeriideidki selga saanud
Umm.. mh? Mõned turismikad ehk?
Mina ja heidik? Ise käid lipsus nagu hilpharakas ringi, selliste peale maa rahvas ei viitsi irvitada ka kahjurõõmust ja tuled mulle siin jeesusest ja korrast ja maksudest jahuma, ise polekorralikeriideidki selga saanud
31 July 2016 17:24
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
21 synnipäeva käsin LasVegases vastu võtmas, mida sa oma 21 synnal tegid?
31 July 2016 17:23
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
ja see on kõigest lisa lugu... päris huvid pole olnud mingit kontorit üles ehitada
31 July 2016 17:23
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Eluheidik ? :DS:D:D
Sa ikka ei oska ÜLDSE ridadevahelt lugeda, on ikka lipsuinimese mõistus :D:D:D
Sa ikka ei oska ÜLDSE ridadevahelt lugeda, on ikka lipsuinimese mõistus :D:D:D
31 July 2016 17:21
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
nu teis idioodid, kui muu taha ei soka pugeda kaotusest, siis ikka "kirjakeele" taha mille sõnade tähendusest ise aru ei saada.
Sulle teadmiseks, et kui ma 18 teist oli, siis ma neli aastat põhjamarinaanidel juba olin, oma esimese arvuti firmaga, mis tagatoast, kuni täis kontorini, koos tööliste, saare esimese avaliku wifi ja koolituskeskusega oli 4 aasta pärast,
Seda kõike 5000 daalaga
et nagu mida sa tegid, kui 18 olid?
Sulle teadmiseks, et kui ma 18 teist oli, siis ma neli aastat põhjamarinaanidel juba olin, oma esimese arvuti firmaga, mis tagatoast, kuni täis kontorini, koos tööliste, saare esimese avaliku wifi ja koolituskeskusega oli 4 aasta pärast,
Seda kõike 5000 daalaga
et nagu mida sa tegid, kui 18 olid?
31 July 2016 17:21
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
ja sa peaksid teadma, et supikööke pole ammuenam olemas tallinnas
või on v?
või on v?
31 July 2016 17:19
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Mina faking parasiit? Oi Oi...
vaat kus nüüüd ikka on üllitis..
Sa ikka saad aru, et minu eco jälg on väiksem aastate peale kokku kui sinul nädalaga v?
vaat kus nüüüd ikka on üllitis..
Sa ikka saad aru, et minu eco jälg on väiksem aastate peale kokku kui sinul nädalaga v?
31 July 2016 17:18
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
mis peaks sinule eriti häbi tegema, et seitseklassi hariduseta, selgitama sulle peab, su alaarengut
31 July 2016 17:17
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
seitse pool klassi
31 July 2016 17:17
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Ühesönaga lehma sa pole puutunud, lehmal lakkuda ennast oled lasknud vähemalt, või vasikal?
Piimahabe tundud ka olema, see näoest näha kohe
Piimahabe tundud ka olema, see näoest näha kohe
31 July 2016 17:17
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Fa FA faking illusion grande, sa ikka pole üldse aru saanud kuidas ma elan
see, et inimene on piisavalt tark ja julge, et käia läbi supiköökidest ja muudest kohtadest, uurimaks nende olukoradsi, vastavalt vajadusele, ja siis SINA sitanina siin tuled jahuma, oma maksude maksmisest v?
see, et inimene on piisavalt tark ja julge, et käia läbi supiköökidest ja muudest kohtadest, uurimaks nende olukoradsi, vastavalt vajadusele, ja siis SINA sitanina siin tuled jahuma, oma maksude maksmisest v?
31 July 2016 17:16
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
millised maksumaksjad MINU toitu maksavad?
31 July 2016 17:14
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
näo järgi küll ei ole
(seda austusega teinud)
(seda austusega teinud)
31 July 2016 17:13
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Oled siis lehma nisa puutunud või pole, vasta ausalt nüüd ?
31 July 2016 17:13
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Sina elad Maa inimeste otsas, mida sa jahud siin kellegi ülalpidamisest,
ise matsutad liha, lipsutad oma lipsudega keskerakonna vahet ja siis tuled siin jahvatama kellegi ülalpidamisest v?
Kelle toitu sa arvad, et sööd ?
Oled Sa elus üldse loomi ise kasvatanud v?
Lehma nisa oled ise ikka puutunud v?
ise matsutad liha, lipsutad oma lipsudega keskerakonna vahet ja siis tuled siin jahvatama kellegi ülalpidamisest v?
Kelle toitu sa arvad, et sööd ?
Oled Sa elus üldse loomi ise kasvatanud v?
Lehma nisa oled ise ikka puutunud v?
31 July 2016 17:11
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Ega kui suu saia täis on pole lihtsam nõustuda
31 July 2016 17:09
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
segamini oled sa ise, kui sa segatoidulisust pead raipe ja päris toidu segu
31 July 2016 17:08
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Sa pole küll prioteedi tippus, aga külla Sulle tuldud peab küll
31 July 2016 17:07
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
aga ei, mis püherdamisest räägime, me silume oma lõuga hoolikalt, et nagu plastikust peldikukaas oleks, ja käime nagu riidepuupeal ringi riietega mis kuskile ei kõlba, sest endal pole mõistust ymberingi vaadata, et see on haigus
mida tuelb ravida
masspsühoos
umbe ssama kui osad noored siin potisoenguga ringi või kukekatega käima hakkasid
see ei täehnda, et see vajalik või õige või hea on, et paljud teevad ümberringi.
tuleb vaadata igal asjal, mis loplik ja algeline praktiline väärtus on
mida tuelb ravida
masspsühoos
umbe ssama kui osad noored siin potisoenguga ringi või kukekatega käima hakkasid
see ei täehnda, et see vajalik või õige või hea on, et paljud teevad ümberringi.
tuleb vaadata igal asjal, mis loplik ja algeline praktiline väärtus on
31 July 2016 17:06
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Kuid see selleks, ole vähemalt meheks, ja pane EESTI moodi riided selga, mitte nagu mingi imbetsilli moodi " ÜLIfakingKONNAS" ringi .. kes see normaalne inimene siis seda risu selga topib, see täis ebapraktilisem inimese lollust ironiseeriv vangla zombide mõnituse rõivastuse tipp mis olla saab
eriti faking yli peded panevad veel mingi supper Gudzi ja kiidavad et neil 50 000 ÜLIKond seljas.. fak.. saab sele ülikonnaga ka mingit reaalset tööd teha või naisega püherdada, kraavis magada või lihtsalt puhastada?
eriti faking yli peded panevad veel mingi supper Gudzi ja kiidavad et neil 50 000 ÜLIKond seljas.. fak.. saab sele ülikonnaga ka mingit reaalset tööd teha või naisega püherdada, kraavis magada või lihtsalt puhastada?
31 July 2016 17:03
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
kui ajas tagasi reisida, siis muidugi muutub asi nukramaks.. seda saavad ka Su klassikaaslased kinnitada
31 July 2016 17:01
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
nii, habe aetud... ehk siis südame ühendus nullis,
silmad pool vaimu pilus, kaval lipitsev helk näos...
silmad pool vaimu pilus, kaval lipitsev helk näos...
31 July 2016 17:00
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
aga ei. paneme kuulekalt aga iga homiku ette ja lööme vaking kulpi, ja kiidame jumalat, et hing ikka nii jeesuses päästetud, ise fak pole jeesusest aimugi ja pole ühtgi vaimu trippi kogenud mis seda mõõdet ajuse üldse mahutaks,
tuled siin jeesusest jahuma,
ise sööd liha, kannad lipsu ja mida veel?
oskan hinge sisse ja isiku nõrkuseid ka vaadata, see oleks juba häbilugu neid siin avalikult pajatama hakata
tuled siin jeesusest jahuma,
ise sööd liha, kannad lipsu ja mida veel?
oskan hinge sisse ja isiku nõrkuseid ka vaadata, see oleks juba häbilugu neid siin avalikult pajatama hakata
31 July 2016 16:59
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
saad aru, sa KANAD lipsu ? Mis sul viga on , miks Sa lipsu kannad? Imbi v?
Milleks lips on, mis praktiline väärtus sellel on, oled viitsinud sellele mediteerida suts v?
Milleks lips on, mis praktiline väärtus sellel on, oled viitsinud sellele mediteerida suts v?
31 July 2016 16:57
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
panen Su listi ja su parteikaaslaste kaudu saab ka sulle külla tulndud, siis vaatame kuidas ja millese kiiresti siin uskuma hakkame, ja kes siin saatanat teenib, ise faking kannad lipsu,
31 July 2016 16:56
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
tra mida sa risustad,. Ega see Kesknädal pole
31 July 2016 16:54
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Kus elad?
31 July 2016 16:53
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
täpselt nemodi sa siis karjud kui kohale jõuame
31 July 2016 16:53
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
oioi , et "kogemused"
selliste hyppajatega ma hakkan nii tegema,
et võtan ja panen teid kotti, vin metsa, ja siis faking hakkate kogema nii et on
selliste hyppajatega ma hakkan nii tegema,
et võtan ja panen teid kotti, vin metsa, ja siis faking hakkate kogema nii et on
31 July 2016 16:52
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
paneme usu proovile siis, vaatame kas põled või ei
31 July 2016 16:52
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
if ya wanna get really fking real
31 July 2016 16:52
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
näe jällegi, jumlasse usk on nõrk v
et umbes need "narkarid" ja "joodikud" ja "parmud" ... et nende kogemused liiga räpased ja rasked sulle.. et nende kogemused sedasi.. et su paberõrna usu äkki püivad minema koos su ettekujutatud versiooniga nõrgast jumalast kelle eest sa ei peaks midagi kartma, ega ette võtma, kui läheb usutõestamiseks
et umbes need "narkarid" ja "joodikud" ja "parmud" ... et nende kogemused liiga räpased ja rasked sulle.. et nende kogemused sedasi.. et su paberõrna usu äkki püivad minema koos su ettekujutatud versiooniga nõrgast jumalast kelle eest sa ei peaks midagi kartma, ega ette võtma, kui läheb usutõestamiseks
31 July 2016 16:51
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
kes need paljud on, anna mulle ka mõni, ma väga tahaks selle inimesega kogemusi jagada
31 July 2016 16:50
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
kaasa arvatud kohtades, kus ei ole aegruumi, on ainult tuli mida hingata ja sarviku irve iga hingetõmbe osas milleks on ainult okkastega antud tuli
Soovid viin Su ka sinna reisile, siis tuled teoritiseerid faking edasi suts?
Soovid viin Su ka sinna reisile, siis tuled teoritiseerid faking edasi suts?
31 July 2016 16:49
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
ma olen põrgutes käinud, erinevates
31 July 2016 16:48
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
oled sa neid lipsupidi üksteise küljes olevaid päästetuid näinud v
31 July 2016 16:48
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
mis hale mula sa ajad nüüd
31 July 2016 16:47
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
ma teenin kõiki, kuna positsioon on Jumala sõpradel kõrge ja siis abistad keda saad, arengus edasi aitamiseks
31 July 2016 16:46
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Ka nemad ju on ausad
31 July 2016 16:44
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Nu mis põhjust mul oleks arvata, et ta valetanud on ?
31 July 2016 16:44
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
nu ise teed nii rumala küsimuse, inimene ütleb, et ta on Jumala usku, ja siissa hakkad siin küsima et mis värvi sokke ta kannab.
31 July 2016 16:43
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Torah on
31 July 2016 16:42
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
seda ka
31 July 2016 16:41
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Jumala
31 July 2016 16:41
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Armastuse Jumalanna
31 July 2016 16:41
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Priit Kutser palun ära rohkem midagi NII arulagedat ütle, seda isegi mu seina jaoks paljiu
31 July 2016 16:40
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Kui Sind JUMALA järgi tehti, siis mõtle peaga, kas tollel olid kihvad v
ja see kui meie geenideks on kasutatud, eri mandrite ja loomade DNAsi , eriajastutes, ja aegruumdes kokkusegades, .. ja siis me siin oma lapse teadmisega.. " oo avastasime yhe ja teise geeni, näe sellel lillel või loomal on ka.. ooo nu siis teeme siit sinnani mingi joone, nii seotud... " nagu jeerum, mis faking joonised,
selleks on võimalik palju sügavamalt näha ja kogeda asju
ja see kui meie geenideks on kasutatud, eri mandrite ja loomade DNAsi , eriajastutes, ja aegruumdes kokkusegades, .. ja siis me siin oma lapse teadmisega.. " oo avastasime yhe ja teise geeni, näe sellel lillel või loomal on ka.. ooo nu siis teeme siit sinnani mingi joone, nii seotud... " nagu jeerum, mis faking joonised,
selleks on võimalik palju sügavamalt näha ja kogeda asju
31 July 2016 16:37
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
kurjaks kõlavalt teeb kujuseees lömitamine
ja "Kuri" tähendab muidu ikka midagi muud üldiselt, suure K iga..
kuid kui mõtled nagu ärritust, siis elementaarne, et kui selge toidu peal oled ja siis keegi ebaselget asju ilmselgel valel põhjusel ajab ja kaitseb, siis tuleb kas maha lüüa see inimene või aru pähe panna, loodus ei saa kestma jääda igast röövsöödikute ja zombidega
ja "Kuri" tähendab muidu ikka midagi muud üldiselt, suure K iga..
kuid kui mõtled nagu ärritust, siis elementaarne, et kui selge toidu peal oled ja siis keegi ebaselget asju ilmselgel valel põhjusel ajab ja kaitseb, siis tuleb kas maha lüüa see inimene või aru pähe panna, loodus ei saa kestma jääda igast röövsöödikute ja zombidega
31 July 2016 16:36
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
igasuguseid jooniseid üksikute skeletide osas, mis järjekorda pandud, ja siis leituatud jutt vahele nagu nad omavahel seotud oleks, seda oskab iga laps ka legoklottisega teha
31 July 2016 16:33
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
"pole enam"
umbes nagu meil kunagi oleks faking olnud,
mis ahvi teoorjad need on kommunismi ajast inimestel peas, järgmiseks hakka uskuma, et kõik on aafrikast tulnud ja mida kõike veel
umbes nagu meil kunagi oleks faking olnud,
mis ahvi teoorjad need on kommunismi ajast inimestel peas, järgmiseks hakka uskuma, et kõik on aafrikast tulnud ja mida kõike veel
31 July 2016 16:32
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
irwww., "pole õppinud veel küpsetama.."
u make sound so fking delicious innit,
Mõtle ka mida fakki see "küpsetamine" REAAALSELT FAK tähendab, aitab aru saada, kui oma last selles olukorras ette kujutad.
Kuid reaalselt siis see on tapetud, enamasti mõrvatud või surnud looma liha vähem mürgiseks kuumutamine tuleläbi, et me taimetoiduline organism suudaks sellega hakkama saada.
u make sound so fking delicious innit,
Mõtle ka mida fakki see "küpsetamine" REAAALSELT FAK tähendab, aitab aru saada, kui oma last selles olukorras ette kujutad.
Kuid reaalselt siis see on tapetud, enamasti mõrvatud või surnud looma liha vähem mürgiseks kuumutamine tuleläbi, et me taimetoiduline organism suudaks sellega hakkama saada.
31 July 2016 16:31
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
nii lammastena hoides, ei saa me kunagi orjapõlvest välja seda riiki
31 July 2016 16:29
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
Priit Kutser mis moodi neid "pandud" uskuma on ?
Kui inimene on aru saanud, et ta ei pea näiteks kodus naist peksma, loomi mõrvama, või et saab häda teha asjalikumalt, reostamatta, siis see pole midagi mis ilmtingimatta "pandud uskuma" on vaid mida nad on ARU SAANUD lõpuks ometi ja kogenud,
selles on erinevus
ei ole inimesi kes on valgustuse saanud ,et "ooo fak, ma peaks täiega oraval päid otsast rebima hakkama ja parte grillima, see on ikka Jumalik tee mille osas öökullid kiidavad "
Kui inimene on aru saanud, et ta ei pea näiteks kodus naist peksma, loomi mõrvama, või et saab häda teha asjalikumalt, reostamatta, siis see pole midagi mis ilmtingimatta "pandud uskuma" on vaid mida nad on ARU SAANUD lõpuks ometi ja kogenud,
selles on erinevus
ei ole inimesi kes on valgustuse saanud ,et "ooo fak, ma peaks täiega oraval päid otsast rebima hakkama ja parte grillima, see on ikka Jumalik tee mille osas öökullid kiidavad "
31 July 2016 16:28
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
kuid jah, inimene ka nii väga soovib uskuda, et ta ahvi sugulane ju,
nu on ahvid
nu on ahvid
31 July 2016 16:24
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
enamuste ahvide suu näeb muidugi välja selline https://www.google.ee/search?newwindow=1&client=firefox-b&biw=1366&bih=659&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=monkey+teeth&oq=monkey+te&gs_l=img.3.0.0l10.2664.5399.0.7270.10.9.0.1.1.0.120.842.6j3.9.0....0...1c.1.64.img..0.10.844.eBCN7kMn-Ww#imgrc=TeVxGMTwFIbtiM%3A
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31 July 2016 16:23
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
jup, nii lihtne see ongi,
Tänud.
Saime väga lihtsa ja praktilise seletuse,
kuid jällegi, isegi see kõige füüsilisem tõestus, mis silmaga näha (lisaks maailma kahjule mis silmaga näha ja valule) ... ikka mõenl on vereZombi viirus sees ja nõrkusest siis ikka soovib lutsida lihakest, kellegi raipeid, ja välja mõelda teooriaid kuidas ikka "Mitmekesine" täehdnab raipe ja päris toidu segu. Millised haiged filosoofiad inimesed ennast uskuma pannud, ja ravile ka ei saadeta
Tänud.
Saime väga lihtsa ja praktilise seletuse,
kuid jällegi, isegi see kõige füüsilisem tõestus, mis silmaga näha (lisaks maailma kahjule mis silmaga näha ja valule) ... ikka mõenl on vereZombi viirus sees ja nõrkusest siis ikka soovib lutsida lihakest, kellegi raipeid, ja välja mõelda teooriaid kuidas ikka "Mitmekesine" täehdnab raipe ja päris toidu segu. Millised haiged filosoofiad inimesed ennast uskuma pannud, ja ravile ka ei saadeta
31 July 2016 16:22
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
jah, neil loodud kihvad, et teisel verevoolu sisse auk teha ja rebida, kuid kes oma suus viimati kihve nägi siis tollele ma saadaks Vampiiritapia Buffi kylla, või tuleks ise
31 July 2016 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Juudi armastajana soovin, et Hitler oleks siin
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater
31 July 2016 16:17
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Kutser's comment.
jah, segatoiduline tähendab: Pähklid, juurikad, puu koore närimiseks, ja siis kõiksugu taimed ja muud õunad peale.
aga mite see ei tähenda, et "oo paneme jänesest raudora läbi ja siis pistame tulle.. .juppe supper farming faking ecco diil "
aga mite see ei tähenda, et "oo paneme jänesest raudora läbi ja siis pistame tulle.. .juppe supper farming faking ecco diil "
31 July 2016 16:15
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
elementaarne jah
31 July 2016 16:14
Margus Meigo replied to Maigert Levo's comment.
selline tunne,et võta labidas kätte ja mine kuskile tommi grilli päid taldrikusse lööma vahest
ja kui keegi seda teeks, siis ma kuidagi ei saaks pahaks panna, kui seda asja südamilikult ja reaalselt vaadata, et mida need inimesed siiani teinud on ja mille nimel keegi neile kasvõi nende elu hinnaga mõistust pähe veel tuua proovis
ja kui keegi seda teeks, siis ma kuidagi ei saaks pahaks panna, kui seda asja südamilikult ja reaalselt vaadata, et mida need inimesed siiani teinud on ja mille nimel keegi neile kasvõi nende elu hinnaga mõistust pähe veel tuua proovis
31 July 2016 16:13
Margus Meigo replied to Maigert Levo's comment.
kusjuures osa inimesi ongi veel nii algelised ja ülbed ka, et kui mingi loom või inimene Neid sööma hakkab, kuid nad ise toetavad lihasöömist, siis jube imestavad ja panevad lausa pahaks,
et "oi, MIIIINU liiki küll ei tohi süüa"
Nagu fakpanpolja rsk
et "oi, MIIIINU liiki küll ei tohi süüa"
Nagu fakpanpolja rsk
31 July 2016 16:11
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja muuta tuleks selleks, milleks ta loodud on, mis loodusele kasulikum on, ja organismile ja keskonnale, mitte ajada utoopilist joru,et vaja ikka neid haisevaid seavarme ja loomade riduradalisi rituaalseid vägistamisi masssiliselt korraldada (ikka saate aru, mis tähendab, kui lehaml piimtuleb.. paaritmaised... kuidas kanad munevad ja miks... jne ? )
31 July 2016 16:10
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
inimene on nii võimasolend, et me saame oma organismi, ainuüksi mõttejõul ümber kujundada, selleks mida ja kuidas sööme, see on A B C
31 July 2016 16:09
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
kuidas ni aruladedad ideed, et inimesed pole taimetoidulise,d üldse seaduslikult seaduslikud on ?
Kuid noh, eks igast hullused ja utoopilised filosoofiad ja arusaamad on legaalsed olnud ajaloos, "teadlaste" ja tarkade poolt
Kuid noh, eks igast hullused ja utoopilised filosoofiad ja arusaamad on legaalsed olnud ajaloos, "teadlaste" ja tarkade poolt
31 July 2016 16:08
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
"maitse elamusi" saada, Samal ajal... naturaalsed marjad, maitsed, taimed, ürdid... kõik kaovad Su menüüst, sest sööd musta nõiakunsti maagia Belladonna, Deadly Nightsade sugulastelt tulnud taimi ja mõrvate vaikides loomi ka kaasa, ja lakute lehma nisadest vägistatud piima peale... mida tal sealt ei tuleks... inimese jaoks.. kui me neid ei pedereeriks selleks.. kui me neid ei väärastaks.
Aga noh, kes siis tõde viitsib.. ikka hea piimahabe olla
Aga noh, kes siis tõde viitsib.. ikka hea piimahabe olla
31 July 2016 16:06
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
inimesed ika sellised algelised idioodid, et süüa küll, mis päevast päeva oleks hea ja kestaks, aga siis ikka prooviks siit ja sealt juurde,
isegi suure vaeva ja keetmise ja põletamise läbi... et endal töööd ja tyhja vaeva jurde teha
isegi suure vaeva ja keetmise ja põletamise läbi... et endal töööd ja tyhja vaeva jurde teha
31 July 2016 16:04
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
nu jah, pane veel sellise leiva peale, kus pärm ka sees on , siis kohe organism matsutab baktereid ja vaime nii et on
31 July 2016 16:03
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
väga lihtne, vaata kas taime varred ja viljad eri aegadel on mürgised, kui on SINU organismile mürgised, siis ära mängi ruletti ja hakka seda sööma kui see VÄHEM mürgisem on,
see umbes nagu arusaamine, et radioktiivsus pole hea ja siis valid vähe radioktiivsema puhta asemel
see umbes nagu arusaamine, et radioktiivsus pole hea ja siis valid vähe radioktiivsema puhta asemel
31 July 2016 16:02
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
st, Hea, suure tähega
31 July 2016 16:01
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
tomat ka jumala loodud, see ei tähenda, et see hea on
31 July 2016 16:00
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Kartul anti meile meie rahva hävitamiseks, IQ madaldamiseks, Naerise väljasöömiseks
31 July 2016 16:00
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
ja need taimsed ained mida inimesed sisse söövad, hoivad neid vaimses dileeriumis, kus nad kollektiivses ettekujutuses, endale miskit utoopiat näevad, kuid käega järgiei katsu, et mis pikas perskpektiivis TEGELIKULT vaja ja hea oleks
31 July 2016 15:59
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
siis kaob kohe ka vajadus koore järele näed...
kuid jah,. kartul on mürgi taim,
Kohvi on päris karm narkootiline aine
kuid jah,. kartul on mürgi taim,
Kohvi on päris karm narkootiline aine
31 July 2016 15:58
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Esiteks, Kohvi ja kartul on asjad mis koheselt me menüüst kaduma peaksid,
neid pole vaja
neid pole vaja
31 July 2016 15:58
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Sellest lihtsast asjast nagu aru ei suudeta saada, et süstemaatiline loomade tapmine, on süsteemi trikk, seda rahavast orjuses ja madalamas seisuses hoida, et nendega võiks sama teha
31 July 2016 15:55
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
mis selles liha ja piima tööstuse prankotistumises siis "head ei ole" ? Et liiga palju jääb ruumi ja aega siis lina, kanepit, naerist, ja sadat mud vilja kasvatada millega saab ilma igasuguse vaevata oma maa rikkaks ja jääb üle veel teistele ka andmiseks, ilma igasuguse massmõrvale kaasa aitamiseta.
31 July 2016 15:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Või kui keegi valmis joonistada oskab, siis ka vahva, saan juhendada
31 July 2016 14:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(muidugi need kes alles selles reaalsuses on, kes alles õpivad võid hindama, siis te tegelege sellega... kuid lõpuks ikkagi saage aru, kelle nisast see tuleb ja mis hinnaga jakas on sünnis)
31 July 2016 12:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(muidugi neid asju ei peaks üldse suure lärmiga tegema, endale, siia märkmeteks, )
31 July 2016 12:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ma praegu oma viimase töis kohupiima-tilli-maitsva tipikastme ja korraliku taluvõi viskan ka ära, fak kaua võib!
31 July 2016 12:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
peab ikka puhta seep peast olema, millise iganes kraadiga, kui ei oska välja mõelda, kuidas ainult taimedega elada
aga praktilise elu asemel ikka osadel meeldib miskeid teooriaid, et "liha teooria see ja teine" et ikka vaja nüsida teise kõri kallal, fak lõpetage ära!
aga praktilise elu asemel ikka osadel meeldib miskeid teooriaid, et "liha teooria see ja teine" et ikka vaja nüsida teise kõri kallal, fak lõpetage ära!
31 July 2016 12:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nii armas, ja vahva, et nad sellised eas, internetti toodavad
olenemata oma puudujääkidest erinevas vallas erinevate arvamuste osas, isegi juuste,
kuid see NIIIIIIII armas ja vajalik, et nad nii teevad, teevad rohkem,kui enamus kes käega löövad
olenemata oma puudujääkidest erinevas vallas erinevate arvamuste osas, isegi juuste,
kuid see NIIIIIIII armas ja vajalik, et nad nii teevad, teevad rohkem,kui enamus kes käega löövad
31 July 2016 12:18
Margus Meigo commented on Viktor Romanenko's post.
Group: James Rothschild's Unsecret Society
to much31 July 2016 08:09
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
but it is awesame to see people like that, and they noteven afraid, even if they wear tie, thats great.
Just get hands tiry now. : )
Just get hands tiry now. : )
31 July 2016 07:00
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
Awesame
Just beard and perhaps also longer hair is needed,
definetelly loose a tie, in te end... this is a tie, that destroyed humans Natural practical life and hooked them up with evelalasting slavery by using lies and force, on current few century time periood
also get clothing made of real mateerial and cut, practical, nice ones.
Even most expensive süit is rediculas as its totally inpractical and ugly if person starts to admit clothing for what it should be. for realness.
Just beard and perhaps also longer hair is needed,
definetelly loose a tie, in te end... this is a tie, that destroyed humans Natural practical life and hooked them up with evelalasting slavery by using lies and force, on current few century time periood
also get clothing made of real mateerial and cut, practical, nice ones.
Even most expensive süit is rediculas as its totally inpractical and ugly if person starts to admit clothing for what it should be. for realness.
31 July 2016 06:59
Margus Meigo commented on Susan Stanley's post.
Just agree with Hillary,
America needs for this age Her, as internationally, ... can You imagine.. how hard is Patriarchy minded ones to handle it..
America needs for this age Her, as internationally, ... can You imagine.. how hard is Patriarchy minded ones to handle it..
31 July 2016 00:02
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
varsti aga kärbseseene aeg, loodan, et rahvas mõistab neid saunas kuivatada ja korjata
30 July 2016 23:56
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
seened eriti ei laksi, need rohkem selgendavad vaikse tuhinaga
30 July 2016 23:55
Margus Meigo replied to Kaspar Avik's comment.
Müüd ise ka, pöördun Su poole kui vaja?
30 July 2016 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
she is perfect for current age
30 July 2016 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
why people even bother tobe on Hillaris butt?
Have they noticed what was ohter options?
Have they noticed what was ohter options?
30 July 2016 23:14
Margus Meigo replied to Kaspar Avik's comment.
aga need sellised korralikud eks, mida ajutiseks kasutamiseks oleks puidu raiskamine, või see selline tavapärane hind juba odavamal ?
nu tuus, 150 nega saaks iseenesest hakkama siis
nu tuus, 150 nega saaks iseenesest hakkama siis
30 July 2016 21:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid peaksid paar päeva vaaks võtma, veelgi parem kui kolmas päev ka tsillimiseks on
30 July 2016 21:39
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
So lord praise the USA,
This is good hack they did right?
Was it bad something about it?
This is good hack they did right?
Was it bad something about it?
30 July 2016 19:39
Margus Meigo replied to Ivar Karm's comment.
Soovid k ?
30 July 2016 14:56
Margus Meigo replied to Ivar Karm's comment.
:D
30 July 2016 14:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(ma õue toimetama praegu.. kontaktime hiljem.. hoian Sind siis praegu Lukkus, et saad esimesena üle vaadata mida soovid, vb jõuan isegi ära pesta nad)
29 July 2016 13:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid vajalikus kohas, võib just vaja minna jup
29 July 2016 13:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ütlen kohe ette, et ilusad need asjad suures osas pole mis siin on... suurem osa on hea, et majast välja saab :p
29 July 2016 13:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
number 5229041
29 July 2016 13:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuidas saadan?
29 July 2016 13:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(irony)
28 July 2016 14:24
Margus Meigo commented on Jeffrey Allan Backowski II's photo.
Nice family picture
28 July 2016 14:24
Margus Meigo commented on Ain Rammu's post.
Kas ilma kemikalideta neid ilusaid värve ei olekski v?
28 July 2016 12:59
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
So Why We still keep WattsUp and Messenger as separate product?
Is time to connect them please on to Messenger.
this would be Da Messenger,
... in far near future perhaps all messengers will be connected on to one.. just tect is different based on platform, but user base will be eventually same + extra
If You will not do it, China will do it first, and that’s good as well.. eventually
Is time to connect them please on to Messenger.
this would be Da Messenger,
... in far near future perhaps all messengers will be connected on to one.. just tect is different based on platform, but user base will be eventually same + extra
If You will not do it, China will do it first, and that’s good as well.. eventually
28 July 2016 09:49
Margus Meigo replied to Emmanuel Robles Alcos's comment.
You are right and You are Wrong.
Can You SERIOUSLY recommend Mark better, how to stop these problems of humans faking them self under psychology programs that has tricked them to act so because of the lack in teachings how to be better and more practical human?
-
Well, we can, we will
me to : )
Can You SERIOUSLY recommend Mark better, how to stop these problems of humans faking them self under psychology programs that has tricked them to act so because of the lack in teachings how to be better and more practical human?
-
Well, we can, we will
me to : )
28 July 2016 09:46
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's post.
+me
28 July 2016 09:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Head veel tuleb...
28 July 2016 00:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tore on näha, et te ikka elus olete Rahvas !
28 July 2016 00:25
Margus Meigo replied to Hevely Koppel's comment.
Võtan vastu : )
28 July 2016 00:25
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
hahah :D
27 July 2016 11:38
Margus Meigo commented on Scáth Reykr's post.
add top of that,
to make score even worst,
The 1 Writer was a man and a homo, as still being able to relate light year more to a LIFE and soul then a Women who by nature should have known better... if She would stay in woods..
to make score even worst,
The 1 Writer was a man and a homo, as still being able to relate light year more to a LIFE and soul then a Women who by nature should have known better... if She would stay in woods..
27 July 2016 01:50
Margus Meigo commented on Scáth Reykr's post.
: ) There is song for that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyjlRfLF6PY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyjlRfLF6PY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyjlRfLF6PY
27 July 2016 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
this is how bullies get it on eday
27 July 2016 00:11
Margus Meigo commented on Asso Puidet's photo.
mis iganes see on aga mõte ja värvid on head
27 July 2016 00:08
Margus Meigo commented on Jana Naudi's post.
Group: Prohvetlikud palved ja sõnumid Eestimaa heaks.
RIkaste rikkuse üle tasub alasti õnnelik olla ja neile head soovida26 July 2016 13:44
Margus Meigo commented on Gert Klaaser's photo.
Karmi nimega band..
26 July 2016 13:27
Margus Meigo commented on Anneli Vilt's photo.
Vot selline asi on lipsu asemel palju parem.
26 July 2016 12:20
Margus Meigo replied to Andrea Maree's comment.
i agree, to look films in 3D is vital
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_3D_films
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_3D_films
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_3D_films
26 July 2016 11:50
Margus Meigo commented on Andy Tulett's post.
True that
26 July 2016 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on Andy Tulett's photo.
Priceless!
26 July 2016 01:20
Margus Meigo replied to Andy Tulett's comment.
for now i got almost 27 EURos, 20 for weed, once i am able to locate that in Estonia and about 7 for mobile charger,
If am manage well, can even rearrange my spendings and invest in to some other things in future months.
That is about one of the highest sum of finance i have had in 3rd quarter.
and that is also donation gift from dear one. Instructed for specific use mentioned before.
Still a bit to go ... but have planned for years, for the structure, how to share out all the massive amounts, in most efficient ways
If am manage well, can even rearrange my spendings and invest in to some other things in future months.
That is about one of the highest sum of finance i have had in 3rd quarter.
and that is also donation gift from dear one. Instructed for specific use mentioned before.
Still a bit to go ... but have planned for years, for the structure, how to share out all the massive amounts, in most efficient ways
26 July 2016 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to Andy Tulett's comment.
I my self would make much more strict directions, how can be used (well, and another way, my directions would handle much larger and deeper scope of impact, but will talk about that once i will have trillions to share . ) )
26 July 2016 01:07
Margus Meigo replied to Andy Tulett's comment.
Jep,
That is pretty much only way to give so large sum of money in a way to make sure, that this will not go sour, Would not want to repeat past mistakes and future catastrophes. Besides, no one of current mayor ones have proper plan for how to deal with money like that, in spiritual and earthly proper way.
still, good numbers still:
" The Gates Foundation has given away more than $30 billion since it was created.
Donating to charity on a large scale is a well established trend in Silicon Valley. Tech billionaires who have committed to giving away some or all of their net worth include Intel INTC 0.09% co-founder Gordon Moore (the inventor of Moore’s Law). So far he has donated about $3 billion of his assets, and still has $5 billion left in the foundation he created with his wife.
Other significant tech benefactors include eBay EBAY 0.62% founder Pierre Omidyar and former eBay president Jeff Skoll, both of whom have donated more than $1 billion to a variety of charitable interests, and Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen, who has given away about $1.5 billion. "
That is pretty much only way to give so large sum of money in a way to make sure, that this will not go sour, Would not want to repeat past mistakes and future catastrophes. Besides, no one of current mayor ones have proper plan for how to deal with money like that, in spiritual and earthly proper way.
still, good numbers still:
" The Gates Foundation has given away more than $30 billion since it was created.
Donating to charity on a large scale is a well established trend in Silicon Valley. Tech billionaires who have committed to giving away some or all of their net worth include Intel INTC 0.09% co-founder Gordon Moore (the inventor of Moore’s Law). So far he has donated about $3 billion of his assets, and still has $5 billion left in the foundation he created with his wife.
Other significant tech benefactors include eBay EBAY 0.62% founder Pierre Omidyar and former eBay president Jeff Skoll, both of whom have donated more than $1 billion to a variety of charitable interests, and Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen, who has given away about $1.5 billion. "
26 July 2016 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to Aleksandr Volgushev's comment.
and what is good in heaven is good in here, in long run, what is good in here is good for heaven and for all the other places
26 July 2016 00:56
Margus Meigo replied to Aleksandr Volgushev's comment.
oh and one more thing... more safe for a man if one is not sure about ones place in heaven, as is more important to know that one does what is needed then to imagine or feel ones place to be worthy for heaven, even if it is 10x over in ones and others eyes... in heaven will be perhaps who needs, or who hacks their way in to there.. but focus of finding ways to give maximum benefit in here..
26 July 2016 00:55
Margus Meigo replied to Aleksandr Volgushev's comment.
oh.. also one should be benefiting farming style of life and correcting the world..
26 July 2016 00:51
Margus Meigo replied to Aleksandr Volgushev's comment.
Only sure way is to get married with a proper Women, fallow basic commands, and as soon any part of relationship starts to limp, then take some psychedelics or pray to give man an insight how to be again perfect for a women (and when god fearing man is perfect for a women, then he is perfect enough for a God)
But Your take on it?
But Your take on it?
26 July 2016 00:50
Margus Meigo replied to Aleksandr Volgushev's comment.
So can You tell in Your own words, in short, what is the key and point ?
26 July 2016 00:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Correction: Illuminati plans to Spoil the war that many of us imagine and get hard on about.. in collective fear and dream and fantasy.. no ya will not get ur war this time.. not like that
25 July 2016 23:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
With love from Brothers to Mother
MotherEarth
MotherEarth
25 July 2016 23:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Or.. https://voiceofpeopletoday.com/2016/04/01/albert-pike-we-control-islam-and-well-use-it-to-destroy-the-west/
Oh.. just google : albert pike war muslim
or
albert pike war muslim OR Muslim
so wonder why this is implemented layer after layer ?
Oh.. just google : albert pike war muslim
or
albert pike war muslim OR Muslim
so wonder why this is implemented layer after layer ?
https://voiceofpeopletoday.com/2016/04/01/albert-pike-we-control-islam-and-well-use-it-to-destroy-the-west/
25 July 2016 23:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
or..
yournewswire.com/putin-illuminati-plans-to-use-islam-to-spark-world-war-3/
yournewswire.com/putin-illuminati-plans-to-use-islam-to-spark-world-war-3/
http://yournewswire.com/putin-illuminati-plans-to-use-islam-to-spark-world-war-3/
25 July 2016 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Or..
wideshut.co.uk/albert-pikes-3-world-wars-letter-hoax-wideshut-webcast/
wideshut.co.uk/albert-pikes-3-world-wars-letter-hoax-wideshut-webcast/
http://wideshut.co.uk/albert-pikes-3-world-wars-letter-hoax-wideshut-webcast/
25 July 2016 23:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
3.
www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm
www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm
http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm
25 July 2016 23:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and all these pentagrams..
25 July 2016 23:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
... Your trick will not prevail..
http://www.pravdareport.com/world/americas/25-07-2016/135116-war_with_russia-0/
http://www.pravdareport.com/world/americas/25-07-2016/135116-war_with_russia-0/
http://www.pravdareport.com/world/americas/25-07-2016/135116-war_with_russia-0/
25 July 2016 23:01
Margus Meigo commented on Berit Masso's post.
Tublid,
Kuigi nad ise olnud ka jõu esindajad, mis selle vastu kõige enam võidelnud on, kristluse ja juutluse vastu... kuid mis iganes nad plaanivad... ju sellest midagi head tuleb...
eriti vahva arvestades, et mones kohas pool Vene sõjaväest on moslemid..
Kuigi nad ise olnud ka jõu esindajad, mis selle vastu kõige enam võidelnud on, kristluse ja juutluse vastu... kuid mis iganes nad plaanivad... ju sellest midagi head tuleb...
eriti vahva arvestades, et mones kohas pool Vene sõjaväest on moslemid..
25 July 2016 22:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
if you google calculation: 45 billion minus 99% (that google will calculate answer $450 Million ) then, most talks on search is about Mark :)
Try!
https://www.google.ee/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=45+billion+minus+99%25&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=N2CWV5eOLNSq8weo95OQDw
Try!
https://www.google.ee/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=45+billion+minus+99%25&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=N2CWV5eOLNSq8weo95OQDw
https://www.google.ee/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=45+billion+minus+99%25&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=N2CWV5eOLNSq8weo95OQDw
25 July 2016 22:00
Margus Meigo replied to Vicky Stolzenbach's comment.
That's reasonable,
Even if it was implanted, as in film inception, that he would do so... so they would not bother old time doers or communists... even if LSD helped.. still, that’s reasonable .. because, if they choose well where to give, this will bring more good back and lead road to better world...
i think it was also put in to he's death will, that when they go ..
if you got 10s of billions, giving away 99% will still leave you with more then most ..about 450 million, half a billion
Even if it was implanted, as in film inception, that he would do so... so they would not bother old time doers or communists... even if LSD helped.. still, that’s reasonable .. because, if they choose well where to give, this will bring more good back and lead road to better world...
i think it was also put in to he's death will, that when they go ..
if you got 10s of billions, giving away 99% will still leave you with more then most ..about 450 million, half a billion
25 July 2016 21:57
Margus Meigo commented on Erki Kaikkonen's photo.
nu jah.. ma kultuuri kilomeetri juurest just kolisin ära mõniaeg tagasi..
25 July 2016 21:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oh sorry, is the election still running on TV ?
Did not want to be a spoiler guy..
Ya know, we got Torrents and early leaks..
Did not want to be a spoiler guy..
Ya know, we got Torrents and early leaks..
25 July 2016 18:10
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Russia is afraid of Clinton and so is the proper terrorisers and Asia, as Women’s got another kind of an intelligent, that they just cant handle.. let's hope She will play it out well and shall stay alive
25 July 2016 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
In our standards here, the Trump is ordinary Liberal and thank God that Clinton, who is by far more conservative and on the side of Right is the President,
(actually, Trump was used, to make sure, that Clinton will be president, ... as when these two are in finals, there is no competition ... it is kind of like Wrestling where one pay is assigned about what part the looser must play to rise opponents price )
(actually, Trump was used, to make sure, that Clinton will be president, ... as when these two are in finals, there is no competition ... it is kind of like Wrestling where one pay is assigned about what part the looser must play to rise opponents price )
25 July 2016 18:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Can You hear me now : )
?
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25 July 2016 17:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
THE INSTITUTE IS OFFICIALLY PART OF THE ROTHSCHILD ORGANIZATION & SUPPORTS THE SCULPT, THE FUTURE FOUNDATION OF DAVID MAYER DE ROTHSCHILD.
http://www.robingoldstein.com/pilot2015/institute.html
http://www.robingoldstein.com/pilot2015/institute.html
http://www.robingoldstein.com/pilot2015/institute.html
25 July 2016 17:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
there is also other kind of investment and philanthropist groups like http://sculptthefuturefoundation.org/ whose member organizations are in to Atlantis deeply and say for sure, that Humans are Not from the Ape.
http://sculptthefuturefoundation.org/
25 July 2016 17:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and from google
http://google.org/
http://google.org/
http://google.org/
25 July 2016 17:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
well, as long they keep my 1TB email service, and picture service.. i can feel @ peace, as Google has been filling up again and again.. and they ask terrible amount of blood money for an text based email savings... while allowing you to upload unlimited amount of crap or anything acceptable to Youtube .. to much pentagrams
25 July 2016 17:23
Margus Meigo replied to Elijah Solomon Olig's comment.
For sure
if You are dead, there is no need for money, only important factor is was You able to leave Your money to the most safest organizations with highest morals, so the energy that comes from Your Empire, will, if at all, at least, influence Your future life in what ever place in the direction that pleases Creator or Your (and Your own soul, that is, as well)
if You are dead, there is no need for money, only important factor is was You able to leave Your money to the most safest organizations with highest morals, so the energy that comes from Your Empire, will, if at all, at least, influence Your future life in what ever place in the direction that pleases Creator or Your (and Your own soul, that is, as well)
25 July 2016 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The sale of Yahoo’s business ends the company’s 22-year run as an independent entity. Founded in a trailer in 1994 by two Stanford graduate students, it was the front door to the web for a generation of internet users but failed to keep up with Google in search technology and then missed the social media and mobile revolutions.
//and missed to co-operate with dark deals, that was warned, if not.. then will nullify the Company
probabaly
//and missed to co-operate with dark deals, that was warned, if not.. then will nullify the Company
probabaly
25 July 2016 17:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
///it should have been possible, only relgion was missing //
Shareholders did not have that kind of patience. Jeffrey C. Smith, the chief of the hedge fund Starboard Value, began agitating for a sale of Yahoo’s core business, which would skirt the Alibaba tax issues. In February, Yahoo’s board agreed to seek bids for the business.
“She knew she was holding a melting ice cube in her hand. Rather than focus on slowing down the rate it was melting, she said, ‘Let’s look three, four, five years out,’” said Sameet Sinha, an analyst at B. Riley & Company, who has followed the company for a decade.
Mr. Finnigan, the former Yahoo executive, said that in hindsight, the company tried to compete in so many areas that it was difficult to succeed.
“You have to be Coke or Pepsi. You don’t want to be RC Cola. They let a lot of these verticals become RC Cola,” he said. “It is a sad day for those Yahoos who tried as hard as they did to create value.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/07/business/dealbook/starboard-value-calls-for-shake-up-at-yahoo-and-shift-in-strategy.html
Shareholders did not have that kind of patience. Jeffrey C. Smith, the chief of the hedge fund Starboard Value, began agitating for a sale of Yahoo’s core business, which would skirt the Alibaba tax issues. In February, Yahoo’s board agreed to seek bids for the business.
“She knew she was holding a melting ice cube in her hand. Rather than focus on slowing down the rate it was melting, she said, ‘Let’s look three, four, five years out,’” said Sameet Sinha, an analyst at B. Riley & Company, who has followed the company for a decade.
Mr. Finnigan, the former Yahoo executive, said that in hindsight, the company tried to compete in so many areas that it was difficult to succeed.
“You have to be Coke or Pepsi. You don’t want to be RC Cola. They let a lot of these verticals become RC Cola,” he said. “It is a sad day for those Yahoos who tried as hard as they did to create value.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/07/business/dealbook/starboard-value-calls-for-shake-up-at-yahoo-and-shift-in-strategy.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/07/business/dealbook/starboard-value-calls-for-shake-up-at-yahoo-and-shift-in-strategy.html
25 July 2016 17:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 miscarriages
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2015/07/31/while_looking_to_the_future_zuckerberg_s_pregnancy_announcement_also_acknowledges.html
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2015/07/31/while_looking_to_the_future_zuckerberg_s_pregnancy_announcement_also_acknowledges.html
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2015/07/31/while_looking_to_the_future_zuckerberg_s_pregnancy_announcement_also_acknowledges.html
25 July 2016 16:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2014/01/23/mark_zuckerberg_from_silicon_valley_brat_to_philanthropist.html
http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2014/01/23/mark_zuckerberg_from_silicon_valley_brat_to_philanthropist.html
25 July 2016 16:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Organ donors
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/05/zuckerbergs-dinners-with-girlfriend-help-spur-life-saving-facebook-tool/
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/05/zuckerbergs-dinners-with-girlfriend-help-spur-life-saving-facebook-tool/
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/05/zuckerbergs-dinners-with-girlfriend-help-spur-life-saving-facebook-tool/
25 July 2016 16:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lesson
http://www.wsj.com/articles/zuckerbergs-100-million-lesson-1444087064
http://www.wsj.com/articles/zuckerbergs-100-million-lesson-1444087064
http://www.wsj.com/articles/zuckerbergs-100-million-lesson-1444087064
25 July 2016 16:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Breakthrough Energy Coalition
http://www.breakthroughenergycoalition.com/en/
Sunday, along with Bill Gates and other business titans, they launched the Breakthrough Energy Coalition, a clean-energy research initiative. There’s nothing like the birth of a child to inspire aggressive investment in the viable future of planet Earth
http://www.breakthroughenergycoalition.com/en/
Sunday, along with Bill Gates and other business titans, they launched the Breakthrough Energy Coalition, a clean-energy research initiative. There’s nothing like the birth of a child to inspire aggressive investment in the viable future of planet Earth
http://www.breakthroughenergycoalition.com/en/
25 July 2016 15:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
immigration reform via FWD.us,
http://www.fwd.us/about_us
lobbying group he founded with other tech leaders in 2013. A major tenet of the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative will be “promoting equality,” or “making sure everyone has access to… opportunities—regardless of the nation, families or circumstances they are born into. Our society must do this not only for justice or charity, but for the greatness of human progress.” The couple’s letter to Max calls out women, “underrepresented minorities,” and immigrants as communities that need more and better opportunities to thrive.
http://www.fwd.us/about_us
lobbying group he founded with other tech leaders in 2013. A major tenet of the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative will be “promoting equality,” or “making sure everyone has access to… opportunities—regardless of the nation, families or circumstances they are born into. Our society must do this not only for justice or charity, but for the greatness of human progress.” The couple’s letter to Max calls out women, “underrepresented minorities,” and immigrants as communities that need more and better opportunities to thrive.
http://www.fwd.us/about_us
25 July 2016 15:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
foundation, Startup: Education.
http://www.startupeducation.org/
http://www.startupeducation.org/
http://www.startupeducation.org/
25 July 2016 15:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Giving Pledge, a campaign launched by Bill and Melinda Gates and Warren Buffett to encourage the world’s uber-rich to give more than half their wealth to charity. (Today's 99 percent announcement puts that figure to shame.)
http://givingpledge.org/
http://givingpledge.org/
http://givingpledge.org/
25 July 2016 15:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Silicon Valley Community Foundation
http://www.siliconvalleycf.org/about-svcf
http://www.siliconvalleycf.org/about-svcf
http://www.siliconvalleycf.org/about-svcf
25 July 2016 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Jott Hallmets's post.
Group: Metalistide taaskasutusturg
Mõtlen, kuidas metallistid ja tsiklimehed selle liberalistide nõiakunsti, pentagrammi, kommunistide sümboli otsa sedasi meelitatud küll saadi, et nad hea meelega neid viisnurki enda seljas ringi veavad25 July 2016 15:24
Margus Meigo commented on Timo Anis's post.
Group: Fotograafid 2.1
Vaat kui ümar ms eeaakera on.. : )25 July 2016 15:13
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Group: Vabaerakond - sõprade klubi
enamasti need alkoholi kultuuritajad, on väga vastumeelsed millegi pärast teadvust ja tervist , ning armuelu tõstvate taimede ning ainete kultuuride ja teaduste suhtes... seega, nähes, et lõvi osa kurjust maailmas on tehtud alkoholi kultuuri austavate ja vajavate inimolendite poolt, ma ka kunagi mingit austust ei hakka näitama ei alkoholi ega sutsu kultuuri osas25 July 2016 13:03
Margus Meigo commented on Georg Kirsberg's post.
Group: Vabaerakond - sõprade klubi
Kõik on OK, aga ta oleks võinud seda viisakusest sutsu eemal teha, inimtühjas kohas.,
Sedasi pole viisakas, mis ta vanevanemad mõtleks...25 July 2016 12:59
Margus Meigo commented on Bojan Tezak's photo.
Hey Boyan, Your http://www.bojantezak.net/photos does not working .. You still have online archive of it all, in places ?
http://www.bojantezak.net/photos
25 July 2016 12:57
Margus Meigo commented on Tingel Tangel's photo.
ei oskagi öelda, et mis puudu oleks
24 July 2016 22:49
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Ölluk's post.
On ikka kiireloomuline asi :D
24 July 2016 22:48
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Alviste's post.
As long this end is not bring to us by same people who bring us the communism... (communism and capitalism is basically the same thing, anti nature, anti women, anti psychedelics and anti god slave systems, )
24 July 2016 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on Tingel Tangel's post.
So Britist thought: lets send 2 different groups of criminals on to 2 different lands with another type of native people and lets see what comes out..
24 July 2016 22:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(mitte seotud aga.. seotud) Igast uudised nagu need;
http://wakeup-world.com/2012/09/17/the-biggest-moneymaker-of-all-time-cancer-and-why-the-profiteers-dont-want-a-cure/
http://wakeup-world.com/2012/09/17/the-biggest-moneymaker-of-all-time-cancer-and-why-the-profiteers-dont-want-a-cure/
http://wakeup-world.com/2012/09/17/the-biggest-moneymaker-of-all-time-cancer-and-why-the-profiteers-dont-want-a-cure/
24 July 2016 22:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2996082-Artem-Vaulin-Complaint.html#document/p36/a308908
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2996082-Artem-Vaulin-Complaint.html#document/p36/a308908
24 July 2016 22:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Apple values its customers' right to privacy and will not hand over personal details to the FBI and will contest it in court.... (unless you dare to compete with iTunes) (j/k)
I was thinking the same thing. WTF Apple? Sad, real sad. Let the terrorist go, but not the copyright infringer..."
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/07/21/apple-helped-identify-kickasstorrents-owner/
I was thinking the same thing. WTF Apple? Sad, real sad. Let the terrorist go, but not the copyright infringer..."
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/07/21/apple-helped-identify-kickasstorrents-owner/
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/07/21/apple-helped-identify-kickasstorrents-owner/
24 July 2016 22:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
from sceptic view..
http://gizmodo.com/the-colossal-screwups-that-got-the-kickass-torrents-own-1784033848
As we learn from the criminal complaint against Vaulin, authorities were able to catch him just by chasing his IP address. Let’s walk through Vaulin’s many apparent fuck ups. First, for whatever reason, this guy was operating a Kickass Torrents Facebook fan page. Probably for promotional purposes, sure, but a bonehead move nonetheless. This is almost incomprehensibly misguided if you are operating an illegal enterprise. By doing this, Vaulin was essentially handing over all of his Facebook-related data to US investigators. When the US government came to Facebook with a warrant for the Kickass Torrents fan page, Facebook handed over the log data (as it should) and revealed that Vaulin was using an @me.com email address to sign into Facebook. Who owns me.com? Apple.
Next, Authorities went to Apple and said, essentially, turn over all the data you have on tirm@me.com, Vaulin’s email account. This is where Vaulin continued his string of devastating screw ups.
Vaulin used his @me.com email address to make an iTunes purchase. Well, luckily for US investigators, every time you make an iTunes purchase, your IP address is recorded. The authorities then used these IP addressed they gathered to determine Vaulin’s online bitcoin account.
Authorities were also able to determine that Vaulin’s @me.com email account was receiving alerts relating to administration tasks on the Kickass Torrents. Another sloppy decision in a string of lazy and careless decisions that ultimately led to his downfall. It’s almost like when Silk Road founder and operator Ross Ulbricht used his real name to ask questions about Tor hidden services on Stack Overflow. A stupid mistake that helped authorities put him in prison for life.
All of these careless mistakes eventually helped US investigators catch Vaulin. It’s funny how the people who run massive illegal online operations seem to care very little about operational security.
http://gizmodo.com/the-colossal-screwups-that-got-the-kickass-torrents-own-1784033848
As we learn from the criminal complaint against Vaulin, authorities were able to catch him just by chasing his IP address. Let’s walk through Vaulin’s many apparent fuck ups. First, for whatever reason, this guy was operating a Kickass Torrents Facebook fan page. Probably for promotional purposes, sure, but a bonehead move nonetheless. This is almost incomprehensibly misguided if you are operating an illegal enterprise. By doing this, Vaulin was essentially handing over all of his Facebook-related data to US investigators. When the US government came to Facebook with a warrant for the Kickass Torrents fan page, Facebook handed over the log data (as it should) and revealed that Vaulin was using an @me.com email address to sign into Facebook. Who owns me.com? Apple.
Next, Authorities went to Apple and said, essentially, turn over all the data you have on tirm@me.com, Vaulin’s email account. This is where Vaulin continued his string of devastating screw ups.
Vaulin used his @me.com email address to make an iTunes purchase. Well, luckily for US investigators, every time you make an iTunes purchase, your IP address is recorded. The authorities then used these IP addressed they gathered to determine Vaulin’s online bitcoin account.
Authorities were also able to determine that Vaulin’s @me.com email account was receiving alerts relating to administration tasks on the Kickass Torrents. Another sloppy decision in a string of lazy and careless decisions that ultimately led to his downfall. It’s almost like when Silk Road founder and operator Ross Ulbricht used his real name to ask questions about Tor hidden services on Stack Overflow. A stupid mistake that helped authorities put him in prison for life.
All of these careless mistakes eventually helped US investigators catch Vaulin. It’s funny how the people who run massive illegal online operations seem to care very little about operational security.
http://gizmodo.com/the-colossal-screwups-that-got-the-kickass-torrents-own-1784033848
24 July 2016 22:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
“Vaulin is charged with running today’s most visited illegal file-sharing website, responsible for unlawfully distributing well over $1 billion of copyrighted materials.”
Not to many people voting here:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/free-artem-vaulin
Not to many people voting here:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/free-artem-vaulin
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/free-artem-vaulin
24 July 2016 22:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Apple rsk
""Apple values its customers' right to privacy and will not hand over personal details to the FBI and will contest it in court.... (unless you dare to compete with iTunes
"n iTunes account and the associated Apple email address were keys to the investigation leading to a takedown of the head of the world's largest torrent aggregator.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI–Apple_encryption_dispute
""Apple values its customers' right to privacy and will not hand over personal details to the FBI and will contest it in court.... (unless you dare to compete with iTunes
"n iTunes account and the associated Apple email address were keys to the investigation leading to a takedown of the head of the world's largest torrent aggregator.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI–Apple_encryption_dispute
24 July 2016 22:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This revealed Vaulin's e-mail account, trim@me.com, hosted by Apple, who provided a copy of his email inbox to authorities after being requested for help.
With the help of the Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty (MLAT), US officials were easily able to obtain information about the KAT's operations from the bank accounts used to collect payments for advertisement slots.
"Records provided by Apple showed that tirm@me.com conducted an iTunes transaction using IP Address 109.86.226.203 on or about July 31, 2015," reads the complaint. "The same IP Address was used on the same day to login into the KAT Facebook."
http://thehackernews.com/2016/07/kickasstorrents-kat-cr.html
With the help of the Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty (MLAT), US officials were easily able to obtain information about the KAT's operations from the bank accounts used to collect payments for advertisement slots.
"Records provided by Apple showed that tirm@me.com conducted an iTunes transaction using IP Address 109.86.226.203 on or about July 31, 2015," reads the complaint. "The same IP Address was used on the same day to login into the KAT Facebook."
http://thehackernews.com/2016/07/kickasstorrents-kat-cr.html
http://thehackernews.com/2016/07/kickasstorrents-kat-cr.html
24 July 2016 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on Максим Новиков's photo.
where is bong ??
24 July 2016 21:45
Margus Meigo commented on Lauri Leino's photo.
Wau mis vaade!
24 July 2016 21:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
seda kasutavad miskid väliessmaadal ka vahest, aga pole hullu, peaasi, et liialt palju ei kasutataks, et häirima ei hakkaks
24 July 2016 21:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#420st ?
24 July 2016 21:30
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
Je right
24 July 2016 21:06
Margus Meigo commented on Sirje Kauna's post.
xD
Huumorit neil on, lisaks heale muusikale
Huumorit neil on, lisaks heale muusikale
24 July 2016 21:03
Margus Meigo replied to Martin Mandre's comment.
lasnamäe stiil on inimsoo hukatuseks (kui inimestest rääkida)
et see üksteitsoe sas elamine, ikka üks hirmus ajutine asi peaks olema..
et see üksteitsoe sas elamine, ikka üks hirmus ajutine asi peaks olema..
24 July 2016 21:02
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Meigo's photo.
Mul ühel tuttaval Harjumaal pakkuda paar perekonda, kas soovid?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1395529417129133&set=rpd.100000162653932&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1395529417129133&set=rpd.100000162653932&type=3&theater
24 July 2016 21:00
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Meigo's photo.
Kivipeale kivi, nii sai valmis saunaahi
24 July 2016 20:57
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Meigo's photo.
Haa, olin ka just eelmine nädal saarel ja sattusin keset päris lambakarja sõbra talus, need väga effektiivsed muruniidukid, terve ranna olid tal ideaalseks püganud
24 July 2016 20:56
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Meigo's photo.
Päris ilus!
24 July 2016 20:54
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Meigo's video.
Väsinud tundute olema elust.. tüdrukul ei näi silmad naturaalselt rõõmsad vaimupildi põhjal ja poiss vaatab mures tühja.. (vahest muidugi jääb pildile sedasi..)
üksteise süles, kaisus rohkem aega veeta, kõigil.
Elule annab ikka pikaajalist jõudu rahulik meloodia ja sügav vaikne lähedus.
üksteise süles, kaisus rohkem aega veeta, kõigil.
Elule annab ikka pikaajalist jõudu rahulik meloodia ja sügav vaikne lähedus.
24 July 2016 20:53
Margus Meigo replied to Berit Masso's comment.
alati üks ja sama usk
24 July 2016 20:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
24 July 2016 20:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja muidugi veel sellistele aadressidele:Irina Belobrovtseva: venefil@tlu.ee ja Aurika Meimre: rusmedia@tlu.ee
Oodatakse ettekandeid konverentsile "Diasporaa kultuurid: "Oma", "teise", "võõra" ja "vaenlase" kujund eksiilkultuurides"
Tallinna Ülikooli Vene ja Ida-Euroopa Uuringute korraldusel toimub 6.-8. oktoobrini 2016 järjekordne, XII rahvusvaheline kultuuride diasporaa konverents. Seekord on alateemaks "oma", "teise", "võõra" ja "vaenlase" kujund eksiilkultuurides.
„Oma“ ja „teise“ probleem on juba ammu ühiskonnateaduslike (kultuurilugu, ajalugu, sotsioloogia, filoloogia jne) uuringute huvisfääris. Äärmiselt teravaks muutub oma ja võõra (ja selle teisendite: oma-teine, teine-vaenlane) küsimus sunnitud või vabatahtliku emigratsiooni korral, sest põgenik (või migrant) vahetab oma ruumi ja kultuuri võõra vastu. Kultuuriloolise ja sotsiaal-poliitilise välis- (või siseeksiili) valiku küsimus provotseerib rea probleeme nii rahvuslikul, poliitilisel, kultuuri reflektsiooni ja eneseteadvustamise tasanditel.
Ühise teema raames on kavas käsitleda järgmist probleemideringi:
• Diasporaa ja metropol: oma võõraste ja võõras omade seas
• Oma-teine-võõras-vaenlane opositisoon diasporaa kultuurides ja selle mõtestamine kirjanduses, teatris, kinos, publitsistikas, arhitektuuris jne
• Välis- ja siseemigratsioon kui oma-teise-võõra vaenlase opositisooni aktualiseerimine
• Eesti Ida ja Lääne vahel: vaenlase kuju modelleerimine Eesti kultuurides XIX saj lõpus ja XX sajandil
• XX ja XXI saj vene emigratsioon: ajalugu, suundumused, probleemid, perspektiivid
Välja pakutud teemasid on soovitav käsitleda eksiilkultuuri osiste - kirjanduse, teatri, kino, kunsti, arhitektuuri, meedia jt sotsiaal-ajalooliste - praktikate materjalil.
Osavõtumaks – 30 EUR.
Kõik lähetuskulud katab lähetaja pool.
Konverntsi materjalide põhjal on kavas üllitada eelretsenseeritav teadusartiklite kogumik.
Töökeeled: vene ja inglise keel
Oma soovist osaleda konverentsil palume teada anda (nimi, töökoht, teema ja lühiteesid) 1. juuliks 2016 järgmistel kontaktidel (soovitavalt üheaegselt)
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Aegunud, las olla
Oodatakse ettekandeid konverentsile "Diasporaa kultuurid: "Oma", "teise", "võõra" ja "vaenlase" kujund eksiilkultuurides"
Tallinna Ülikooli Vene ja Ida-Euroopa Uuringute korraldusel toimub 6.-8. oktoobrini 2016 järjekordne, XII rahvusvaheline kultuuride diasporaa konverents. Seekord on alateemaks "oma", "teise", "võõra" ja "vaenlase" kujund eksiilkultuurides.
„Oma“ ja „teise“ probleem on juba ammu ühiskonnateaduslike (kultuurilugu, ajalugu, sotsioloogia, filoloogia jne) uuringute huvisfääris. Äärmiselt teravaks muutub oma ja võõra (ja selle teisendite: oma-teine, teine-vaenlane) küsimus sunnitud või vabatahtliku emigratsiooni korral, sest põgenik (või migrant) vahetab oma ruumi ja kultuuri võõra vastu. Kultuuriloolise ja sotsiaal-poliitilise välis- (või siseeksiili) valiku küsimus provotseerib rea probleeme nii rahvuslikul, poliitilisel, kultuuri reflektsiooni ja eneseteadvustamise tasanditel.
Ühise teema raames on kavas käsitleda järgmist probleemideringi:
• Diasporaa ja metropol: oma võõraste ja võõras omade seas
• Oma-teine-võõras-vaenlane opositisoon diasporaa kultuurides ja selle mõtestamine kirjanduses, teatris, kinos, publitsistikas, arhitektuuris jne
• Välis- ja siseemigratsioon kui oma-teise-võõra vaenlase opositisooni aktualiseerimine
• Eesti Ida ja Lääne vahel: vaenlase kuju modelleerimine Eesti kultuurides XIX saj lõpus ja XX sajandil
• XX ja XXI saj vene emigratsioon: ajalugu, suundumused, probleemid, perspektiivid
Välja pakutud teemasid on soovitav käsitleda eksiilkultuuri osiste - kirjanduse, teatri, kino, kunsti, arhitektuuri, meedia jt sotsiaal-ajalooliste - praktikate materjalil.
Osavõtumaks – 30 EUR.
Kõik lähetuskulud katab lähetaja pool.
Konverntsi materjalide põhjal on kavas üllitada eelretsenseeritav teadusartiklite kogumik.
Töökeeled: vene ja inglise keel
Oma soovist osaleda konverentsil palume teada anda (nimi, töökoht, teema ja lühiteesid) 1. juuliks 2016 järgmistel kontaktidel (soovitavalt üheaegselt)
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Aegunud, las olla
24 July 2016 19:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eesti digitaalhumanitaaria aastakonverents "Visuaalne digitaalhumanitaaria: humanitaarandmete esitamine ja tõlgendamine"
13.-14. oktoobril 2016 toimub Tartus Eesti Kirjandusmuuseumis konverents "Eesti digitaalhumanitaaria ° 2016: Visuaalne digitaalhumanitaaria: humanitaarandmete esitamine ja tõlgendamine.
Arvutiajastu on kaasa toonud üha rohkem võimalusi suhtluseks eri meediumide vahendusel. Humanitaarvaldkonnas puudutab see nii lähteandmeid, uurimisprotsessi kui ka tulemuste esitamist. Ühest küljest peavad humanitaarteadused toime tulema ülesandega tuletada pidevalt muutuvast ja paigalpüsimatust mitte tekstilisest kultuurisuhtlusest uurimistöö jaoks valiidsed andmestud. Teisalt võimaldavad arvutuslikud meetodid meil töödelda andmeid palju suuremas mahus. Digitaalhumanitaaria loomingulisus seisneb andmeanalüüsi uute võimaluste uurimises, avastamises ja arendamises.
Andmete visuaalne esitamine (nt. võrgustike, ajajoonte ja sõnapilvede abil) parandab märkimisväärselt ainestiku tõlgendusvõimalusi. Humanitaarteadlased on juba kasutusele võtnud teistes uurimisvaldkondades välja töötatud visualiseerimismeetodid, nt. GIS kaardid, graafikud jms. Ometi tuleks kriitiliselt üle vaadata väited, mis on aluseks teistes valdkondades välja töötatud andmete kuvamise ja interpreteerimise töövahenditele, et kohandada neid kunsti, kirjanduse, muusika või ajaloo andmekogude uurimisel. Uued võimalused parandavad ka ainestikust ülevaate saamise võimalusi arvutuslike meetodite abil, mis täiendavad detailsemate, kuid samas väiksemamahuliste uuringute tulemusi. Seda tehes peab meeles pidama, et kvalitatiivsete andmete puhul vajame ka meetodeid mitmetimõistetavuse ja hägusate tulemuste oskuslikuks esitamiseks. Humanitaarandmete esitamine peab olema vastavuses uurimuse eesmärkidega. Humanitaaruurimisse tuleks kaasata arvutiteadlasi, sest see võimaldaks kasutada oskuslikumalt olemasolevaid vahendeid ning arendada välja uusi.
Konverents on neljas Eesti digitaalhumanitaaria konverentside seerias ning sel aastal korraldavad seda ühiselt Eesti Digitaalhumanitaaria Selts, Eesti Kirjandusmuuseum ning Eesti-uuringute tippkeskus.
Lisaks konverentsi üldteemale on konverentsile oodatud kõik ettekanded, mis tutvustavad või analüüsivad arenguid Eesti digitaalhumanitaarias.
Ootame konverentsile ettekandeid järgmistest digitaalhumanitaaria valdkondadest:
– visuaalsete andmete kaeve, haldamine ja analüüs;
– andmete interpreteerimine ja uute teadmiste loomine;
– erilaadiliste (ruumiliste, ajalooliste, folkloorsete, keeleliste jne.) andmete visualiseerimine;
– ideed, plaanid, arengud Eesti ja maailma digitaalhumanitaarias ning digitaalhumanitaaria kriitika.
Palun saatke oma ettekande teesid (200-250 sõna koos viidetega) ja pealkiri ning akadeemiline lühielulugu 1. augustiks 2016 aadressile digitaalhumanitaaria@gmail.com.
Lisaks ettekannetele on oodatud ettepanekud konverentsijärgsete õpitubade ja seminaride korraldamiseks.
Konverentsi töökeel on inglise keel.
Korraldustoimkond:
Mari Sarv
Liisi Laineste
http://www.folklore.ee/
13.-14. oktoobril 2016 toimub Tartus Eesti Kirjandusmuuseumis konverents "Eesti digitaalhumanitaaria ° 2016: Visuaalne digitaalhumanitaaria: humanitaarandmete esitamine ja tõlgendamine.
Arvutiajastu on kaasa toonud üha rohkem võimalusi suhtluseks eri meediumide vahendusel. Humanitaarvaldkonnas puudutab see nii lähteandmeid, uurimisprotsessi kui ka tulemuste esitamist. Ühest küljest peavad humanitaarteadused toime tulema ülesandega tuletada pidevalt muutuvast ja paigalpüsimatust mitte tekstilisest kultuurisuhtlusest uurimistöö jaoks valiidsed andmestud. Teisalt võimaldavad arvutuslikud meetodid meil töödelda andmeid palju suuremas mahus. Digitaalhumanitaaria loomingulisus seisneb andmeanalüüsi uute võimaluste uurimises, avastamises ja arendamises.
Andmete visuaalne esitamine (nt. võrgustike, ajajoonte ja sõnapilvede abil) parandab märkimisväärselt ainestiku tõlgendusvõimalusi. Humanitaarteadlased on juba kasutusele võtnud teistes uurimisvaldkondades välja töötatud visualiseerimismeetodid, nt. GIS kaardid, graafikud jms. Ometi tuleks kriitiliselt üle vaadata väited, mis on aluseks teistes valdkondades välja töötatud andmete kuvamise ja interpreteerimise töövahenditele, et kohandada neid kunsti, kirjanduse, muusika või ajaloo andmekogude uurimisel. Uued võimalused parandavad ka ainestikust ülevaate saamise võimalusi arvutuslike meetodite abil, mis täiendavad detailsemate, kuid samas väiksemamahuliste uuringute tulemusi. Seda tehes peab meeles pidama, et kvalitatiivsete andmete puhul vajame ka meetodeid mitmetimõistetavuse ja hägusate tulemuste oskuslikuks esitamiseks. Humanitaarandmete esitamine peab olema vastavuses uurimuse eesmärkidega. Humanitaaruurimisse tuleks kaasata arvutiteadlasi, sest see võimaldaks kasutada oskuslikumalt olemasolevaid vahendeid ning arendada välja uusi.
Konverents on neljas Eesti digitaalhumanitaaria konverentside seerias ning sel aastal korraldavad seda ühiselt Eesti Digitaalhumanitaaria Selts, Eesti Kirjandusmuuseum ning Eesti-uuringute tippkeskus.
Lisaks konverentsi üldteemale on konverentsile oodatud kõik ettekanded, mis tutvustavad või analüüsivad arenguid Eesti digitaalhumanitaarias.
Ootame konverentsile ettekandeid järgmistest digitaalhumanitaaria valdkondadest:
– visuaalsete andmete kaeve, haldamine ja analüüs;
– andmete interpreteerimine ja uute teadmiste loomine;
– erilaadiliste (ruumiliste, ajalooliste, folkloorsete, keeleliste jne.) andmete visualiseerimine;
– ideed, plaanid, arengud Eesti ja maailma digitaalhumanitaarias ning digitaalhumanitaaria kriitika.
Palun saatke oma ettekande teesid (200-250 sõna koos viidetega) ja pealkiri ning akadeemiline lühielulugu 1. augustiks 2016 aadressile digitaalhumanitaaria@gmail.com.
Lisaks ettekannetele on oodatud ettepanekud konverentsijärgsete õpitubade ja seminaride korraldamiseks.
Konverentsi töökeel on inglise keel.
Korraldustoimkond:
Mari Sarv
Liisi Laineste
http://www.folklore.ee/
http://www.folklore.ee/
24 July 2016 19:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Creativity and tradition in Estonian and Polish cultural communication is a project initiated by the Estonian and Polish Academies of Science "
"The principal aim of the cooperation project is to approach the role of creativity and tradition in Eastern European cultural space, addressing different genres of folklore. The project deals with expressions of traditional folklore in the new media of the rapidly transforming post-socialist societies. These will be studied through the analysis of media texts and other contemporary (folkloric) narratives, and results about how political and economic transformations influence culture will be formulated..."
http://www.folklore.ee/~liisi/
"The principal aim of the cooperation project is to approach the role of creativity and tradition in Eastern European cultural space, addressing different genres of folklore. The project deals with expressions of traditional folklore in the new media of the rapidly transforming post-socialist societies. These will be studied through the analysis of media texts and other contemporary (folkloric) narratives, and results about how political and economic transformations influence culture will be formulated..."
http://www.folklore.ee/~liisi/
http://www.folklore.ee/~liisi/
24 July 2016 19:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Positiivsust: http://www.folklore.ee/~liisi/o2/kataloog.php
http://www.folklore.ee/~liisi/o2/kataloog.php
24 July 2016 19:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
ja saab ka ju halb plaan luhtuda, egas see võib päris hea olla.. ütleb optimist : )
24 July 2016 19:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Nüüd siis kartliku inimesena, peaks valima esimeseks suuretegevuseks muude suurte plaanide kõrvalt, vast esimeseks see mis luhtumist lubab.. kuid kui palju käsil kus siis teada.. parem lihtsalt edasi niita ja rahulikult lõkkes mõtiskleda,
kahju ainult, et Kivi pole
kahju ainult, et Kivi pole
24 July 2016 19:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
imho24 July 2016 19:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
keemia on kaudsesmõttes üks looduse, bioloogia tehnoloogiate versioon ja võimalus, kuid ikkagi suurem osa omavahelisi suhteid, kõige väiksemal tasemel, tloimub elusosakeste vahel, läbi kasvamise, liitumise ja muutumise, ..24 July 2016 19:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
et kumb kõlaks siis veidramalt, reaalsuskaugemalt esimese reaktsioonina, ilma bioloogiata kasvav taim või ilma keemiata kasvav taim?24 July 2016 19:27
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Masing's post.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
Kutid, ega see siis ei ole keemia kui taimed naturaalselt õues kasvavad, seega jah, nad kasvavad ilma keemiata. Praegu proovitakse aga keelt väänata, nagu kogu loodus toimiks keemial ja olekski keemia, et inimesi väärarendada mõtlemises, nagu loodus oleks süstemaatiliselt surnud osakeste omavaheline võnkumine ja reaktsioonid.
Rahvapäraselt Keemia ikka tähendab seda, kui mingi protsess on ilma otsese looduse vajaduseta, läbi inimese, surnud osakestena sünteesitud või tekitatud. Kuid kus osakesed on surnud. (umbestäpselt)
Nii, et meem on väga õige ja ei tasu siinkohal lipsuga, noa ja kahvliga süüa ning öelda "tehniliselt tänapäeva kooli mõistuse järgi kogu loodus protsessid on keemilised ja kemikaalidega mis maapinnas..."
See ei tee meid kuidagi targemaks ja viib pointi põhiteemast eemale, mis meemi idee oli...
Mis omakorda, aitab siis selle meemi ümber teha, ilma tänapäeva inimesi ärritavate sõnadeta : "Saab täiesti naturaalselt looduses kasvatada"24 July 2016 19:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
80-ndad. Tehnikaülikoolis on eksam. Professorile on abiks assistent ja nii mõnigi kord jätab suurkuju otsustamise oma noorema töökaaslase hooleks. Sama lugu on minuga, võitlus käib nelja ja viie vahel, aga otsustajat pole. Assistent aga igavleb, sest professor ei viitsi, või ka ei taha otsustada. Viimaks vaatab professor oma noorema kolleegi poole ja ütleb:
"Viimane küsimus ja see otsustab!"
"Hästi!" ütleb assistent ja küsib: "Niisiis, millise kiirusega peab jooksma kass, et ta ei kuuleks konservipurkide heli, millised on ta saba külge seotud?"
Vastan kiiresti:
"340 m/ sec!"
Kohe kõlab otsus:
"Neli!"
Minu poolt on õlakehitus ja: "?" Kuid kohe saan ka selgituse:
"Noormees! Meie valmistame siin ette insenere iseseisvaks eluks ja tööks, aga mitte mingisuguseid teoreetikuid. Mõelda tuleb! Kass ei jookse kunagi kiiremini, kui ta suudab. Ja õige vastus oleks, kiirus peab olema null! Kass oleks pidanud püsima paigal! Nii on lood, noormees..."
"Viimane küsimus ja see otsustab!"
"Hästi!" ütleb assistent ja küsib: "Niisiis, millise kiirusega peab jooksma kass, et ta ei kuuleks konservipurkide heli, millised on ta saba külge seotud?"
Vastan kiiresti:
"340 m/ sec!"
Kohe kõlab otsus:
"Neli!"
Minu poolt on õlakehitus ja: "?" Kuid kohe saan ka selgituse:
"Noormees! Meie valmistame siin ette insenere iseseisvaks eluks ja tööks, aga mitte mingisuguseid teoreetikuid. Mõelda tuleb! Kass ei jookse kunagi kiiremini, kui ta suudab. Ja õige vastus oleks, kiirus peab olema null! Kass oleks pidanud püsima paigal! Nii on lood, noormees..."
24 July 2016 19:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Isa ja poeg läksid ühel päeval kalale. Kui nad olid mõnda aega paadiga vee peal olnud, tekkis poisil huvi ümbritseva maailma vastu. Ta küsis isalt:
"Miks see paat kõigub?"
Isa vastas:
"Ma ei tea, poeg."
Pisut hiljem vaatas poeg isa poole ja päris:
"Kuidas saavad kalad vee all hingata?"
Jälle vastas isa:
"Ma ei oska öelda, poeg."
Veidi hiljem küsis poeg:
"Miks on taevas sinine?"
Ning isa vastas endiselt:
"Ma ei oska öelda, poeg."
Lõpuks küsis poiss isalt:
"Isa, kas see segab sind, kui ma sult kogu aeg küsin?"
Isa vastas:
"Muidugi mitte, kui sa ei küsi, ei õpi sa kunagi midagi."
"Miks see paat kõigub?"
Isa vastas:
"Ma ei tea, poeg."
Pisut hiljem vaatas poeg isa poole ja päris:
"Kuidas saavad kalad vee all hingata?"
Jälle vastas isa:
"Ma ei oska öelda, poeg."
Veidi hiljem küsis poeg:
"Miks on taevas sinine?"
Ning isa vastas endiselt:
"Ma ei oska öelda, poeg."
Lõpuks küsis poiss isalt:
"Isa, kas see segab sind, kui ma sult kogu aeg küsin?"
Isa vastas:
"Muidugi mitte, kui sa ei küsi, ei õpi sa kunagi midagi."
24 July 2016 19:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#nali #anekdoot #realLife #KurbNali
"Kallis, ära joo nii palju! Alkohol teeb inimese ükskõikseks!"
"Ah, mul ükskõik!"
"Kallis, ära joo nii palju! Alkohol teeb inimese ükskõikseks!"
"Ah, mul ükskõik!"
24 July 2016 19:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#nali #anekdoot #realLife #KurbNali
"Mnjah, oleks pidanud ikka isa juttu kuulama, kui veel poisitatt olin! Oleks pidanud. Aga näe mina loll, ei kuuland..."
"Mis ta sulle siis rääkis?"
"Kust ma tean, ma ju ei kuuland!"
"Mnjah, oleks pidanud ikka isa juttu kuulama, kui veel poisitatt olin! Oleks pidanud. Aga näe mina loll, ei kuuland..."
"Mis ta sulle siis rääkis?"
"Kust ma tean, ma ju ei kuuland!"
24 July 2016 19:04
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Donald Trump is in this game so Hillary can be a president,
and that is good.
and that is good.
24 July 2016 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's post.
Su soovitus hea
24 July 2016 10:00
Margus Meigo commented on Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's post.
Järeletehtav, kuid alguses võib tunduda jah, et nagu oleks müstiline, kuni ise sama asja proovid ja näed kui lihtne
24 July 2016 09:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"A review of 45 studies clearly demonstrated that sexually abused children had more symptoms than nonabused children, with abuse accounting for 15—45% of the variance. Fears, posttraumatic stress disorder, behavior problems, sexualized behaviors, and poor self-esteem occurred most frequently among a long list of symptoms noted, but no one symptom characterized a majority of sexually abused children. Some symptoms were specific to certain ages,..."
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This research is centered on pedophiles and their place in Dutch society and based on the question: To what extent is there a conflict due to the presence of pedophiles in Dutch society?
Data was gathered and analyzed through
a qualitative content analysis of newspaper articles and
semi-structured interviews with pedophiles.
In this research pedophiles are defined as people with a sexual age orientation directed towards children younger than sixteen years old. A sexual orientation does not only revolve around sexual feelings, but romantic feelings as well.
Two main results were found.
First, newspapers present a generalized image of pedophiles as people who have engaged or are likely to engage in a form of pedosexuality. This overgeneralization leads to the formation of a stigmatized stereotype, that of a criminal sexual child abuser.
Second, the respondents experience that stigma in their daily life, since they do not feel accepted by society. Instead they experience structural conflict to some extent in the form of unequal life chances. The fact that they are unable to speak out about their sexual identity can lead to difficulties in the social life, in asking for protection and professional help, and in living without fear of discovery. The latter is a form of latent violence.
This research builds further on both classic and recent literature, yet is innovating in the sense that it connects conflict studies to the concept of pedophilia. Conflict is being used as a fluid and broad concept, instead of keeping it static and narrow. This research shows how conflict studies can be relevant in addressing conflict that is not directly visible, since it helps in understanding societal developments and structures.
application/pdf iconrenate_padding_thesis_pedophilia_and_conflict.pdf
https://www.ipce.info/library
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This research is centered on pedophiles and their place in Dutch society and based on the question: To what extent is there a conflict due to the presence of pedophiles in Dutch society?
Data was gathered and analyzed through
a qualitative content analysis of newspaper articles and
semi-structured interviews with pedophiles.
In this research pedophiles are defined as people with a sexual age orientation directed towards children younger than sixteen years old. A sexual orientation does not only revolve around sexual feelings, but romantic feelings as well.
Two main results were found.
First, newspapers present a generalized image of pedophiles as people who have engaged or are likely to engage in a form of pedosexuality. This overgeneralization leads to the formation of a stigmatized stereotype, that of a criminal sexual child abuser.
Second, the respondents experience that stigma in their daily life, since they do not feel accepted by society. Instead they experience structural conflict to some extent in the form of unequal life chances. The fact that they are unable to speak out about their sexual identity can lead to difficulties in the social life, in asking for protection and professional help, and in living without fear of discovery. The latter is a form of latent violence.
This research builds further on both classic and recent literature, yet is innovating in the sense that it connects conflict studies to the concept of pedophilia. Conflict is being used as a fluid and broad concept, instead of keeping it static and narrow. This research shows how conflict studies can be relevant in addressing conflict that is not directly visible, since it helps in understanding societal developments and structures.
application/pdf iconrenate_padding_thesis_pedophilia_and_conflict.pdf
https://www.ipce.info/library
https://www.ipce.info/library
23 July 2016 16:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Leahy, Terry, Negotiating Stigma: Approaches to Intergenerational Sex, PhD thesis.
Ego Deficiency as a Factor in Marriage--A Male Sample. Marriage and Family Living. Volume 21
Brongersma, Dr Edward. Loving Boys; A multidisciplinairy study of sexual relations between adult and minor males; Global Academic Publishers, 1986.
https://www.ipce.info/booksreborn/index.htm
Ego Deficiency as a Factor in Marriage--A Male Sample. Marriage and Family Living. Volume 21
Brongersma, Dr Edward. Loving Boys; A multidisciplinairy study of sexual relations between adult and minor males; Global Academic Publishers, 1986.
https://www.ipce.info/booksreborn/index.htm
https://www.ipce.info/booksreborn/index.htm
23 July 2016 16:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/doc.htm
https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/doc.htm
23 July 2016 16:35
Margus Meigo commented on Del Hodd's photo.
Still recommend beard
23 July 2016 16:33
Margus Meigo commented on Anna-Maria Galojan's photo.
Nu niino nii :)
23 July 2016 16:30
Margus Meigo commented on Valentina VP's photo.
Cannot compare with the beauty of ordinary nature
23 July 2016 16:25
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's post.
elementary
23 July 2016 16:24
Margus Meigo replied to Roosi Raudsepp's comment.
Kas see on terve nii tunda?
23 July 2016 15:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0qvkg2nzg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0qvkg2nzg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0qvkg2nzg8
23 July 2016 13:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Books, Essays: About: ·"The Greeks and Greek Love by James Davidson, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 2007. .." etc
https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/book,.htm
https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/book,.htm
21 July 2016 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
. Raamatukogu
https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/library.htm
https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/library.htm
https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/library.htm
21 July 2016 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on Priit Adler's post.
Group: Säästva arengu haridus
Oot Soovitavad nad nüüd juba Seeni süüüa või ikka valetataksek täe,rbseseened on mürgised jms -?21 July 2016 00:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
//elementaarne, et vaja tarkust arendada ja jagada, siis endal parem ju ka ja sellel kellel enaim vaja on, ja kelle jaoks sündisid
" .. known as "the Rebbe nishmosei eiden" (whose soul is in Eden) and as "the Rebbe Rashab" (for Reb Sholom Ber).
His teachings represent the emergence of an emphasis on outreach that later Chabad Rebbes would develop into a major theme"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sholom_Dovber_Schneersohn
" .. known as "the Rebbe nishmosei eiden" (whose soul is in Eden) and as "the Rebbe Rashab" (for Reb Sholom Ber).
His teachings represent the emergence of an emphasis on outreach that later Chabad Rebbes would develop into a major theme"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sholom_Dovber_Schneersohn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sholom_Dovber_Schneersohn
20 July 2016 07:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mishnah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mishnah
20 July 2016 07:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The Oral Law -Talmud & Mishna
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/talmud_&_mishna.html
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/talmud_&_mishna.html
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/talmud_&_mishna.html
20 July 2016 07:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
a bit raw but.
" Rabbi Sholom DovBer Schneersohn (1860–1920)
The fifth rebbe of Chabad-Lubavitch, Rabbi Sholom DovBer Schneersohn, known by the acronym “Rashab,” was born in the town of Lubavitch, in White Russia, on the 20th of the Jewish month of Cheshvan in 1860 (5621 since creation). Rabbi Sholom DovBer was the..."
http://www.chabad.org/search/keyword_cdo/kid/1464/jewish/R-Sholom-DovBer-of-Lubavitch-Rashab.htm
" Rabbi Sholom DovBer Schneersohn (1860–1920)
The fifth rebbe of Chabad-Lubavitch, Rabbi Sholom DovBer Schneersohn, known by the acronym “Rashab,” was born in the town of Lubavitch, in White Russia, on the 20th of the Jewish month of Cheshvan in 1860 (5621 since creation). Rabbi Sholom DovBer was the..."
http://www.chabad.org/search/keyword_cdo/kid/1464/jewish/R-Sholom-DovBer-of-Lubavitch-Rashab.htm
http://www.chabad.org/search/keyword_cdo/kid/1464/jewish/R-Sholom-DovBer-of-Lubavitch-Rashab.htm
20 July 2016 07:52
Margus Meigo commented on Christohpher Ma's post.
Group: Group of losers
Yeah, She Won!
For Us20 July 2016 07:36
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Jott Hallmets's post.
Group: Metalistide taaskasutusturg
iiiiu, viisnuragd! õõ!20 July 2016 07:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
..on algus hea...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqdyQWoQ0jM
Seda laulu vast Piret laulaks hästi, hinge valu matkimine ja samas sygavamale arenemine eriti sobiks, laulaks veelgi värvilisemalt osad das iossse, ... kuigi mingi originaalne tundelisus Kuudil jääb...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqdyQWoQ0jM
Seda laulu vast Piret laulaks hästi, hinge valu matkimine ja samas sygavamale arenemine eriti sobiks, laulaks veelgi värvilisemalt osad das iossse, ... kuigi mingi originaalne tundelisus Kuudil jääb...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqdyQWoQ0jM
20 July 2016 07:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"ära küsi.. lihtsalt tule mu juurde, ma palun sind, kuia htda olla hea"
.. see koik on hea... aga "endast üks kiir mulle kingi" on liiga desperate, endast väikskeams tehes ja siis ei tea mees kellega saab kokku ju
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixp-RfsgwNk
(seda ma kardsingi,e ind on siginenud mustmiljon viimasel ajal: mis reference träies tähenduses see on)
.. see koik on hea... aga "endast üks kiir mulle kingi" on liiga desperate, endast väikskeams tehes ja siis ei tea mees kellega saab kokku ju
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixp-RfsgwNk
(seda ma kardsingi,e ind on siginenud mustmiljon viimasel ajal: mis reference träies tähenduses see on)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixp-RfsgwNk
20 July 2016 07:07
Margus Meigo replied to Alvin Kobin's comment.
seda minagi
20 July 2016 07:00
Margus Meigo replied to Hany Mohamed Sabry's comment.
Why do You ask ?
The skin looks like Lubuntu
but mine is OSh. OShuman, ( OpenSourceHuman )
The skin looks like Lubuntu
but mine is OSh. OShuman, ( OpenSourceHuman )
20 July 2016 06:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(kosjakontori mooduli arendamine)
20 July 2016 06:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja siis veel muud tägid: #KKnn (naine naisega), #KKkultur (kultuuride vaheline), #KKaju (ajutine suhe, kogemus), #KKabi (abielu eesmärgil) ja muidugi ka veel mitmed muud, kuid " #Kosjakontor " peab olema alguses, see aitab grupeerida kogu teemat ühtlase perena, et kindlalt aru s,aa adeksimatult, et see #KK Tag on mõeldud kosjatamiseks
20 July 2016 06:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kosjakontori aktiviseerimiseks, Tuleviku süstemis aktiviseerida #Kosjakontor ja siis juurde #KosjakontorNaineMeest
või pigem siinpuhul:, " #Kosjakontor #KosjakontorMeesNaist "
ja kes pikendada soovib, see pikendab: "#Kosjakontor #KKmeesNaist #KKvalismaa #KKeestis #KKeestisse #KKsuhe "
(erinevalt siis kõige sama, kuid viimane osa: #KKssuhe - ehk seks-suhe, meelega üks S vahet ainult, välja vabandamaks et näpukas, mitte.. et see vähem libedaks seda teeks....)
või pigem siinpuhul:, " #Kosjakontor #KosjakontorMeesNaist "
ja kes pikendada soovib, see pikendab: "#Kosjakontor #KKmeesNaist #KKvalismaa #KKeestis #KKeestisse #KKsuhe "
(erinevalt siis kõige sama, kuid viimane osa: #KKssuhe - ehk seks-suhe, meelega üks S vahet ainult, välja vabandamaks et näpukas, mitte.. et see vähem libedaks seda teeks....)
20 July 2016 06:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ubuntu
20 July 2016 05:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Linux Friends
i will make Microxs,
#MicroXS20 July 2016 05:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Linux Friends
i will make Microsoft Linuxs20 July 2016 05:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Linux Friends
i meant: if OS automated, or newbie mode is activated,
then AI decision should rise,
what is common (to Do, better usually then not do)
and more doors offers, for outside help and ideas, securely.
eg. more Comodo bothering Buddy software a like, more neat help system network, for Linux p pl making some friends and money sometimes, with many,
like fishing.. usually for free and some will for sure pay,
specially if you get regular ones20 July 2016 05:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Linux Friends
.:.
4-3
4220 July 2016 05:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
et oleneb, kumbapidi vaadata hetkeolukorda, kas reaalselt või pessimistlikult
20 July 2016 05:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(st: lisa eriti lihtsa kanali standardi tarvis, vajalikul selgusel teistele kanaitele: et videos see viisnurka kandev ja maaga vähem yheduses olev vähemate karvadega mis maa ja taevaga ühendab siblija kes ka ikka proovib saavutada, kui just mitte meelega Vaimses mõtttes meest treeniv või patule trikitav, ehk naisest emale trikitav ja muid pahategusi või nagu jeaolu korraldama muud kutsuv, nagu muud heaolu saavutama meelitav olend, kes siis seda bvaest maameest ja kellel sopru ka pole kuna muud pundud ka maal veidrrikute paarid... et selle teelt kõrvale meelitamine... eri tyypidel eri versioonid ja need omavael eriti omakorda ei saa ja ei ole voimalik enamuse aja läbisaada, senesit rvead olemise stiilid, rääkimise ja kunstnmikul meeldiks üksi pikalt olla või rahus, rahulikult, ilma kirumata, samal ajal kui teistel rohkem pundiga ja väljaelamine pidev)
20 July 2016 04:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(est, meelde tuletuseks aint)
20 July 2016 04:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oot kas ma selle internatisi video panin ikka juba kuskilke volmeri taolise järgi...
siin see veidra kuumonistina esinev sarviku taolise isiksuse esitlemine ka välja mõeldud #EestiIQ83 standardi põhjal
siin see veidra kuumonistina esinev sarviku taolise isiksuse esitlemine ka välja mõeldud #EestiIQ83 standardi põhjal
20 July 2016 04:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja siis kas tal vastavalt sellele on õigus ELU või Ennast hinnata,
isegi ennas,t mille põhjal... enne uju kaldale kuskile kui hakkad mõtlema sellest, et kui pääsed, siis mõõdad põhjad ja kaugused ära ja mida nende andmetega tegema hakkad,
ja siis tehtud tulust saadud kasu, mille peale kuidas kulutad ja mida siis see aeg tegema hakkad kui olukord nii on nagu unistada ideaalset olukorda oletasid, otsustasid, unistad,
sellest kuidas võidad, enne ki yldse teada on kas on võitjaid või võiduvõimalusi või vajadusi või selliseid reaalsusi ja mõtteid, tegusi ja unistusi (et kas neid pon vaja siis üldse, kui asjad korda saaavad.. või proovime ennast siduda, istuda, astuda mingi korrastamise reaalsus plaanile... kuid tunneme, et on ju vaja. nagu hobuse turjast haaramine , härja, selledel olle pidudel kus naised robot härja otsas,
paralell tekst tahtmatu kuid sobiv ja vib olla, isegi kui see ohkorn niiit, mingi lehe jätkamiseks vajalik piisav miinimum)
isegi ennas,t mille põhjal... enne uju kaldale kuskile kui hakkad mõtlema sellest, et kui pääsed, siis mõõdad põhjad ja kaugused ära ja mida nende andmetega tegema hakkad,
ja siis tehtud tulust saadud kasu, mille peale kuidas kulutad ja mida siis see aeg tegema hakkad kui olukord nii on nagu unistada ideaalset olukorda oletasid, otsustasid, unistad,
sellest kuidas võidad, enne ki yldse teada on kas on võitjaid või võiduvõimalusi või vajadusi või selliseid reaalsusi ja mõtteid, tegusi ja unistusi (et kas neid pon vaja siis üldse, kui asjad korda saaavad.. või proovime ennast siduda, istuda, astuda mingi korrastamise reaalsus plaanile... kuid tunneme, et on ju vaja. nagu hobuse turjast haaramine , härja, selledel olle pidudel kus naised robot härja otsas,
paralell tekst tahtmatu kuid sobiv ja vib olla, isegi kui see ohkorn niiit, mingi lehe jätkamiseks vajalik piisav miinimum)
20 July 2016 04:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Et ehk, kui ON enesetapiulise kajaga laul, siis tuleb tugevalt ärritunult, häiritult solvunult ründavalt readeerida, selles osas, et kas see kes elu peale sülitab, on üldse vaevunud elu elama
20 July 2016 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
KUi muud paremat teha pole siis tee head
20 July 2016 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid vähemalt edasiminek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWeuUwpEQfs
Kui midagi ei leia, siis leia midagi mis parem kui mitte midagi
Kui midagi ei leia, siis leia midagi mis parem kui mitte midagi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWeuUwpEQfs
20 July 2016 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid meeles pidada, et oluline oli see hijackery sona, olgu hommikuse närvilisuse või suure PAANIKAGA: DO Not Panic!
ÄRGE PAANITSEGE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB8XDk3sQBc
(kuigi asjade aprandamisega me vahest kaotame midagi muud mida pärast leppida.. lappida või leida sooviksime, )
ÄRGE PAANITSEGE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB8XDk3sQBc
(kuigi asjade aprandamisega me vahest kaotame midagi muud mida pärast leppida.. lappida või leida sooviksime, )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB8XDk3sQBc
20 July 2016 03:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
okey nyyd tuli ka minigi jama, voib kinni pana, kui raadiol juba kaks eksimust on , siis on kanal yle viidud või puhkust vaja arvata pigem kui jätkata kui rutiinseks läinud
20 July 2016 03:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(viimane, Tommi poja stiilis, õigustavaltseletavalt, seletava õigustusega)
20 July 2016 03:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
(aja järjekorras kus nad editatud, pildistatud, postitatud on, ja siis tagasi mängida, koos kõrvaloleva tähenduse ja siis veel sellega, mis personaalselt me meeltes ka, kui mitte muu siis see versioon mis mul päris hea oli)
20 July 2016 03:30
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
okey, pleasetell us now, what is it about to postit
20 July 2016 03:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
(jah oli küll nali lõpus, võite naerda, kuid sõprus on ka päris, mis korra olnud, see kestma jääb, aktiviseeritav, kõik ülejäänu ja muu, on uuesti avastatav või (või maakeeli üeldes, Avastatud))
20 July 2016 03:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
eesti mees on pigembeõ sõber,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVfPf006Vw0
südames,
kui see kuvand mis muidu filmios dnujtäe,
suurte tegude kõrval, eriti veel.. kuid isegi ilma nendeta...
eesti kuvand on siis pigem see sõbra soovi kuvand, sellega seotu, kui see mida näidatud on proovitud, kuid samas mine tea, vb on tõsijutt, et IQ pidi keskmiselt alla 80ne olema
#EestiIQ83 (optimistlikult, keskmiselt, Harju Keskmiselt... )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVfPf006Vw0
südames,
kui see kuvand mis muidu filmios dnujtäe,
suurte tegude kõrval, eriti veel.. kuid isegi ilma nendeta...
eesti kuvand on siis pigem see sõbra soovi kuvand, sellega seotu, kui see mida näidatud on proovitud, kuid samas mine tea, vb on tõsijutt, et IQ pidi keskmiselt alla 80ne olema
#EestiIQ83 (optimistlikult, keskmiselt, Harju Keskmiselt... )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVfPf006Vw0
20 July 2016 03:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Selle filmi Muss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qaD99fiRRQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qaD99fiRRQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qaD99fiRRQ
20 July 2016 03:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui pildirida on järgi, siis on teada
20 July 2016 03:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aegajalt
20 July 2016 02:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(jallegi, viimane osa, selkles taktis mis see lauluga meeleolu, enne tagajärje ootama jäävalt kordavalt sama... näitamaks kordumist, kui kaua veel, otsa meelega pandud enne oiget lopetamis aega... aga mees endiselt mõtleb: Et siis on nii, ... päris hea, tõsine.. ja mõtleb edasi, et siis toimetab sama asja edasi, mida enne toimetas, nagu poleks motet tulnutki voi aru saanud, kuid teelikult ehitab maailma edasi, isegi kui Naisega kohtub)
20 July 2016 02:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nii, et mees jäi mõttese: No siis on nii
(sedasi kännu peal, mõtlikult, habeme suunal, .... kui muud melepilti ei tule, nende sonadega siin v, ....oot, OOT, nüüd läheme kuuulame õsnad üle., mis ajas on ajatud ja kehtivad Veel)
(sedasi kännu peal, mõtlikult, habeme suunal, .... kui muud melepilti ei tule, nende sonadega siin v, ....oot, OOT, nüüd läheme kuuulame õsnad üle., mis ajas on ajatud ja kehtivad Veel)
20 July 2016 02:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
JSa a vastasid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk-KmIW0vMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk-KmIW0vMQ
20 July 2016 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja nüüd tuleviku lugemise juurde!
20 July 2016 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja pealegi, ma vist veel peaaegu suhtes, seegsa ei teagi seega ei saagi , saakski veel teada kas saab tohtida või i, veel (ajas kui mahus)
20 July 2016 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nancy Himma
Kuidas Sulle Hovery Covery meeldib, st. paaris olemine?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g22OBhP2NxU ilma tantsuta, kuigi ka see on soliidne
/ küsimus ikka alustuseks, et suures mõttes, Filosoofia Mehe ja Naise emlksioose mõttes ja et kas see õige ja muidugi kuidas Hovery Covery meeldib
Kuidas Sulle Hovery Covery meeldib, st. paaris olemine?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g22OBhP2NxU ilma tantsuta, kuigi ka see on soliidne
/ küsimus ikka alustuseks, et suures mõttes, Filosoofia Mehe ja Naise emlksioose mõttes ja et kas see õige ja muidugi kuidas Hovery Covery meeldib
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g22OBhP2NxU
20 July 2016 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aga see kellel ma teine olen, Tean,
Kõigil teisil, : )
kõikidel teistel olen teine, küui küsid.. kelle suunas see üldse käis, need pilgud ja nooled, sooled, soola heeringad veenuse olal : )
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwBZ85L2Odw selle stuudio versioon)
Kõigil teisil, : )
kõikidel teistel olen teine, küui küsid.. kelle suunas see üldse käis, need pilgud ja nooled, sooled, soola heeringad veenuse olal : )
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwBZ85L2Odw selle stuudio versioon)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwBZ85L2Odw
20 July 2016 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
Pauu!
Head, ikka head, sellest muusikalist!
Pauu!
Head, ikka head, sellest muusikalist!
20 July 2016 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#OriginaalsuseValjamotlejad
20 July 2016 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#.Naistesse
20 July 2016 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja kui töö tehtud, siis naistesse
20 July 2016 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(see lugu, viimane lause viimane pool enne lõppu)
20 July 2016 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(ja meie samal ajal vaatame päris natsi kutikaid ja on tahtmine neil mööda kõrva kord lüüa (yleeeelmise laulu taktis))
20 July 2016 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aaa need internatsid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9K2Y1UH02c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9K2Y1UH02c
20 July 2016 02:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Justament - Petseri Tsura Ja Hiitola Ätt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVQzFmzAUT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVQzFmzAUT4
20 July 2016 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja ega kõik laulud ka head ega vajalikud ole
20 July 2016 02:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(aga armuluubitd on vaja välja sasada, saaada, Lepatriinu osas, kui see nii on )(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FzDkH5duBI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FzDkH5duBI
20 July 2016 02:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
või oli see Mr. Laurisen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0LeL9BUPtA
Igatahes, tahtsin yelda, et isegi se (ebameeldiv jobu) kiilakas, sai sellest laulust meeldejäävalt lauldud, tuues seda laulu inimestele lähemale., kui keegi kes laulda oskaks seda laulunud oloeks hingega, teades elust ja tunnetades headust, mite nii kurb, jäbikisuv... peaaegu, et homo äärel tagakõlaga, kuid ksuy igavamalt analyysida siis kindlasti hea, kui pere hea ka ju (eks?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0LeL9BUPtA
Igatahes, tahtsin yelda, et isegi se (ebameeldiv jobu) kiilakas, sai sellest laulust meeldejäävalt lauldud, tuues seda laulu inimestele lähemale., kui keegi kes laulda oskaks seda laulunud oloeks hingega, teades elust ja tunnetades headust, mite nii kurb, jäbikisuv... peaaegu, et homo äärel tagakõlaga, kuid ksuy igavamalt analyysida siis kindlasti hea, kui pere hea ka ju (eks?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0LeL9BUPtA
20 July 2016 02:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(Tõlge, Isegi kui need kommunistid (keda nende vastastena end uskuvad olevad väiksema õigus välise-pagasiga ))
20 July 2016 02:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
isegi kui su vardasse ajamiseks
20 July 2016 02:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jah, isegi kui seee oli muul pohjusel, oli see ikka hea
20 July 2016 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(kui see video listi laheb siis ta kadunud, arvestage sellega )
isegi Heategijad ei pruugi aru saada, ku i vajalik voi mis moodi miks tegelt paha see video on, kui see info millest räägibd korvale jatta ja inim hääälega kaasnevatele areusaama alustele keskenduda ,millega , (koma)
isegi Heategijad ei pruugi aru saada, ku i vajalik voi mis moodi miks tegelt paha see video on, kui see info millest räägibd korvale jatta ja inim hääälega kaasnevatele areusaama alustele keskenduda ,millega , (koma)
20 July 2016 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
sedasi suuname Tuleviku jaoks detaile paika
20 July 2016 02:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(ma pahane endiselt selle interveeria üle kes kõige kauem alguse teises poeosl räägib,
enne 16 minutit)
enne 16 minutit)
20 July 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Niimoodi anname ka kõik muu kätte, kuid enne proovime selgitada elementaarse, et mida milleks anname, ehk Sa tead (viimane lause Koraani stiiilis, maneeriga, irooniliste kysimuste osas)
20 July 2016 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oih, sorry, SEE laul oli hoopis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqSJO5bVc-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqSJO5bVc-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqSJO5bVc-M
20 July 2016 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muah!
(Endiselt me suhte viimaste päevade Neiule Mustas juukseis!)
(Endiselt me suhte viimaste päevade Neiule Mustas juukseis!)
20 July 2016 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuidas saab sellise välimusega mehel ol alõigus träääkidas sellest, kas Keegi nende likvideerimise Filosoofiat julges avalikult arutada, mis õigusega sellisel, õigus enda suguste eest seista saab olla ?
Tulge mõistusele,
kuid kui kuulekad kui koerad ja muud head , siis lööme hiljem maha, lubame!
Tulge mõistusele,
kuid kui kuulekad kui koerad ja muud head , siis lööme hiljem maha, lubame!
20 July 2016 01:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Despite the clear advantages, there are challenges that need addressing before bacteria-grown clothes can reach the racks. First, there’s an issue of scalability. The current processes used are arduous and time-consuming. It took Smith about a week to grow her dress. And, if you followed Lee’s DIY recipe, it would take two to four weeks to grow your material. The question for the fashion industry therefore is how it can deliver such garments on a commercial scale without cutting corners to save money. A possible scenario highlighted by Lee is one where industrial vats of sugar from streams of food waste provide the breeding ground for bacteria.
Second, there are doubts about whether people would happily wear something that has been fashioned from waste. A straw poll carried out suggests that some are uncomfortable with the idea. One respondent said it would be like putting dirty clothes back on after a bath. Others said that the thought of it made their skin crawl. Another said that we already wear silk (in his own words: “protein from a worm’s a***”), so we shouldn’t have any qualms about pulling bacteria-grown clothes off the racks.
Given the technology’s environmental benefits, including the fact that the materials can be biodegraded after use, would applying it to manufacture supposedly unnecessary high-end items be counterproductive if it could be scaled up and people could overcome their aversion? Smith suggests not, because people are always going to buy and throw away clothes regardless. Growing them is simply an eco-friendly alternative.
“It’s essential that consumers become more aware of the continued lifespan of their things once they’ve been thrown away,” she says. “Any object made from materials that will outlive its intended use is a part of our global waste problem.”
Second, there are doubts about whether people would happily wear something that has been fashioned from waste. A straw poll carried out suggests that some are uncomfortable with the idea. One respondent said it would be like putting dirty clothes back on after a bath. Others said that the thought of it made their skin crawl. Another said that we already wear silk (in his own words: “protein from a worm’s a***”), so we shouldn’t have any qualms about pulling bacteria-grown clothes off the racks.
Given the technology’s environmental benefits, including the fact that the materials can be biodegraded after use, would applying it to manufacture supposedly unnecessary high-end items be counterproductive if it could be scaled up and people could overcome their aversion? Smith suggests not, because people are always going to buy and throw away clothes regardless. Growing them is simply an eco-friendly alternative.
“It’s essential that consumers become more aware of the continued lifespan of their things once they’ve been thrown away,” she says. “Any object made from materials that will outlive its intended use is a part of our global waste problem.”
19 July 2016 04:08
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Would you wear clothing grown from a mixture of yeast, bacteria and a sugary green tea solution? How about from a combination of plant matter and microscopic mushrooms? These odd materials may sound like something out of the Jetsons’ wardrobe, but they could have an influence on how fashion is manufactured.
“I think the ability for us to grow our own clothing could have great positive potential,” says Erin Smith, artist in residence at Microsoft Research who brewed her own wedding dress. “Growing clothing from scratch could both eliminate carbon emissions caused by transportation and allow for a garment that can be grown to your precise dimensions and specifications.”
Smith produced her dress using a combination of tree mulch and mycelium – a type of naturally white fungus. The mycelium was bred in a tub of agricultural waste requiring very little added energy. Once the dress had been worn, it could be composted in the garden. She made the decision to grow her own dress because she didn’t want her wedding to be dictated by tradition and to have to wear something that would just sit in her wardrobe after the event.
“The concept behind a grown wedding dress was to take a one-time-use object and rethink its construction in order to have an appropriate material lifespan. The average cost of a wedding dress in the US is roughly $1,200 (£792) and can contain nearly 12 yards (11m) of fabric,” explains Smith, adding that making the fashion chain circular not only brings us closer to the environment but also reflects how needless our consumption habits are: “The wedding dress is a perfect example of a one-time-use, energy intensive and entirely non-sustainable model that is representative of so many of the choices that we make daily.”
Growing a garment from mycelium isn’t a novel concept. The most notable figure in the field of biomaterials is Suzanne Lee, founder of BioCouture, a design consultancy that works with brands to apply similar technology to sportswear and luxury fashion products. Lee has been experimenting with the idea of fermenting clothes for over a decade and has grown a type of vegetable leather from green tea, sugar, bacteria and yeast.
Fermented material
Fermented material. Photograph: BioCouture
Back in 2004, a team at the University of Western Australia showcased a jacket from living tissue – mouse and human cells to be specific. And, a couple of years ago, Bioalloy, a research project based in the labs at the same university, produced a garment from alcohol using fibrous cellulose created by introducing bacteria into red wine.
Scientists and designers are increasingly looking at ways to blur the boundaries between biology and fashion. The technology is clearly there, but what about the demand? There is an acknowledgment that biomaterials are unlikely to replace cotton and leather, and that fast fashion will keep relying on oil-based polymers like polyester.
Lee has previously argued that biomaterials such as microbial cellulose would simply be “a smart and sustainable addition to our increasingly precious natural resources”. They do have environmental advantages, particularly in terms of water. For example, the team behind Scoby Tec’s biker jacket brewed from kombucha (a fermented drink made with tea, sugar, bacteria and yeast) claims that only 60 litres of water are required for one square metre of its leather. In comparison, it takes 20,000 litres to produce a single T-shirt and pair of jeans, according to WWF.
https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/sustainable-fashion-blog/2015/feb/17/grow-compost-wedding-dress-homegrown-fashion
Tuesday 17 February 2015 07.10 GMT
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Would you wear clothing grown from a mixture of yeast, bacteria and a sugary green tea solution? How about from a combination of plant matter and microscopic mushrooms? These odd materials may sound like something out of the Jetsons’ wardrobe, but they could have an influence on how fashion is manufactured.
“I think the ability for us to grow our own clothing could have great positive potential,” says Erin Smith, artist in residence at Microsoft Research who brewed her own wedding dress. “Growing clothing from scratch could both eliminate carbon emissions caused by transportation and allow for a garment that can be grown to your precise dimensions and specifications.”
Smith produced her dress using a combination of tree mulch and mycelium – a type of naturally white fungus. The mycelium was bred in a tub of agricultural waste requiring very little added energy. Once the dress had been worn, it could be composted in the garden. She made the decision to grow her own dress because she didn’t want her wedding to be dictated by tradition and to have to wear something that would just sit in her wardrobe after the event.
“The concept behind a grown wedding dress was to take a one-time-use object and rethink its construction in order to have an appropriate material lifespan. The average cost of a wedding dress in the US is roughly $1,200 (£792) and can contain nearly 12 yards (11m) of fabric,” explains Smith, adding that making the fashion chain circular not only brings us closer to the environment but also reflects how needless our consumption habits are: “The wedding dress is a perfect example of a one-time-use, energy intensive and entirely non-sustainable model that is representative of so many of the choices that we make daily.”
Growing a garment from mycelium isn’t a novel concept. The most notable figure in the field of biomaterials is Suzanne Lee, founder of BioCouture, a design consultancy that works with brands to apply similar technology to sportswear and luxury fashion products. Lee has been experimenting with the idea of fermenting clothes for over a decade and has grown a type of vegetable leather from green tea, sugar, bacteria and yeast.
Fermented material
Fermented material. Photograph: BioCouture
Back in 2004, a team at the University of Western Australia showcased a jacket from living tissue – mouse and human cells to be specific. And, a couple of years ago, Bioalloy, a research project based in the labs at the same university, produced a garment from alcohol using fibrous cellulose created by introducing bacteria into red wine.
Scientists and designers are increasingly looking at ways to blur the boundaries between biology and fashion. The technology is clearly there, but what about the demand? There is an acknowledgment that biomaterials are unlikely to replace cotton and leather, and that fast fashion will keep relying on oil-based polymers like polyester.
Lee has previously argued that biomaterials such as microbial cellulose would simply be “a smart and sustainable addition to our increasingly precious natural resources”. They do have environmental advantages, particularly in terms of water. For example, the team behind Scoby Tec’s biker jacket brewed from kombucha (a fermented drink made with tea, sugar, bacteria and yeast) claims that only 60 litres of water are required for one square metre of its leather. In comparison, it takes 20,000 litres to produce a single T-shirt and pair of jeans, according to WWF.
https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/sustainable-fashion-blog/2015/feb/17/grow-compost-wedding-dress-homegrown-fashion
https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/sustainable-fashion-blog/2015/feb/17/grow-compost-wedding-dress-homegrown-fashion
19 July 2016 04:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
“If only we would accept being part of nature instead of always drawing the typical separation between man and nature,” says Montalti, “it’s food for thought for the public.”
But it’s not only food for thought for the public; exhibits like Fungal Futures are a challenge to the industry as well.
“Designers hold a great responsibility,” says Montalti. “If you really think that this kind of material and product can make a difference and can positively impact our relationship to our ecosystem [then] the only way to make this happen is to make this come to the consumer,” says Montalti, “and the only way to do that is through industry.”
Like Montalti, while her dress design is unique – a kind of fungi couture – Hoitink sees potential for the use of mycelium on a larger scale, particularly given its properties. For example, its antibacterial powers. “Mycelium can be anti microbial or skin caring. Those properties are already part of fungi; it is just a matter of using it in the correct way,” says Hoitink. “We don’t need chemicals or silver layers to add these extra functions.” To give a textile antimicrobial properties, silver nanoparticles are incorporated into fibers like nylon. But these nanoparticles come at a cost. According to the nonprofit Beyond Pesticides, “Many consider silver to be more toxic than other metals when in nanoscale form and that these particles have a different toxicity mechanism compared to dissolved silver. Scientists have concluded that nanoparticles can pass easily into cells and affect cellular function, depending on their shape and size.”
Fungal Futures - Kristel Peters10 ©Marja_Verweij copy
Image: Fungal Futures – Kristel Peters10 ©Marja_Verweij
For any textile application where antimicrobial properties are desirable, Hoitink sees a potential for mycelium. Clothing is my ultimate goal, but there are more applications,” says Hoitink. “Think about antimicrobial curtains in hospitals or moist absorbent textiles for old houses.”
In fact, mycelium is already being used in a variety of fiber forms. Ecovative Design produces both Myco Foam and Myco Board, environmentally-friendly alternatives to styrofoam and particle board and for anyone who is interested in experimenting with fungal fibers, the company makes a GIY Mushroom Materials kit (that’s Grow It Yourself) so that you can grow your own fibers at home. In Denmark, product designer Jonas Edvard has used mycelium to create a fiber he calls MYX, which he uses in lampshades. These designers and others see mycelium as a sustainable, renewable alternative to petroleum-based products, and Montalti is confident that if time and research can continue to be devoted to mycelium, we have the opportunity to transition away from petroleum-based products.
“I feel certain about the fact that these materials will strongly impact the market and become one of the most viable alternatives to synthetics,” says Montalti.
ecovative
Image: Ecovative
Getting there however requires not only thinking innovatively about materials, but about the entire system at hand.
“The moment that we try to compete with plastic materials it’s a difficult challenge,” says Montalti, noting that “there are different parameters to take into account when looking at the value of the product.”
A more sustainable system will require innovative materials, but also, as Montalti points out “a new form of business model.” One that isn’t just focused on short term profits that come at any cost. “Everything needs to be questioned,” says Montalti, and that means not only how we make materials, but in what system we sell them and how we do business.
When it comes to the future of fashion, Hoitink agrees, pointing out that to move forward, we need to challenge ourselves to not just apply new materials to old methods, but to rethink the entire way of making clothing.
“People are stuck in the old ways of clothing production,” says Hoitink. “People ask me if I could make a yarn out of Mycelium. But why should I put a lot of effort in trying so, if growing pieces is much quicker and environmentally friendly? One of the problems of recycling is that the yarn is not strong enough for weaving, one needs to add new yarns to the recycled yarns in order to use them for the industrial machines. But why not be open for new ways of making garments?”
http://bkaccelerator.com/self-cleaning-fabrics-future-new-research-says-yes/
But it’s not only food for thought for the public; exhibits like Fungal Futures are a challenge to the industry as well.
“Designers hold a great responsibility,” says Montalti. “If you really think that this kind of material and product can make a difference and can positively impact our relationship to our ecosystem [then] the only way to make this happen is to make this come to the consumer,” says Montalti, “and the only way to do that is through industry.”
Like Montalti, while her dress design is unique – a kind of fungi couture – Hoitink sees potential for the use of mycelium on a larger scale, particularly given its properties. For example, its antibacterial powers. “Mycelium can be anti microbial or skin caring. Those properties are already part of fungi; it is just a matter of using it in the correct way,” says Hoitink. “We don’t need chemicals or silver layers to add these extra functions.” To give a textile antimicrobial properties, silver nanoparticles are incorporated into fibers like nylon. But these nanoparticles come at a cost. According to the nonprofit Beyond Pesticides, “Many consider silver to be more toxic than other metals when in nanoscale form and that these particles have a different toxicity mechanism compared to dissolved silver. Scientists have concluded that nanoparticles can pass easily into cells and affect cellular function, depending on their shape and size.”
Fungal Futures - Kristel Peters10 ©Marja_Verweij copy
Image: Fungal Futures – Kristel Peters10 ©Marja_Verweij
For any textile application where antimicrobial properties are desirable, Hoitink sees a potential for mycelium. Clothing is my ultimate goal, but there are more applications,” says Hoitink. “Think about antimicrobial curtains in hospitals or moist absorbent textiles for old houses.”
In fact, mycelium is already being used in a variety of fiber forms. Ecovative Design produces both Myco Foam and Myco Board, environmentally-friendly alternatives to styrofoam and particle board and for anyone who is interested in experimenting with fungal fibers, the company makes a GIY Mushroom Materials kit (that’s Grow It Yourself) so that you can grow your own fibers at home. In Denmark, product designer Jonas Edvard has used mycelium to create a fiber he calls MYX, which he uses in lampshades. These designers and others see mycelium as a sustainable, renewable alternative to petroleum-based products, and Montalti is confident that if time and research can continue to be devoted to mycelium, we have the opportunity to transition away from petroleum-based products.
“I feel certain about the fact that these materials will strongly impact the market and become one of the most viable alternatives to synthetics,” says Montalti.
ecovative
Image: Ecovative
Getting there however requires not only thinking innovatively about materials, but about the entire system at hand.
“The moment that we try to compete with plastic materials it’s a difficult challenge,” says Montalti, noting that “there are different parameters to take into account when looking at the value of the product.”
A more sustainable system will require innovative materials, but also, as Montalti points out “a new form of business model.” One that isn’t just focused on short term profits that come at any cost. “Everything needs to be questioned,” says Montalti, and that means not only how we make materials, but in what system we sell them and how we do business.
When it comes to the future of fashion, Hoitink agrees, pointing out that to move forward, we need to challenge ourselves to not just apply new materials to old methods, but to rethink the entire way of making clothing.
“People are stuck in the old ways of clothing production,” says Hoitink. “People ask me if I could make a yarn out of Mycelium. But why should I put a lot of effort in trying so, if growing pieces is much quicker and environmentally friendly? One of the problems of recycling is that the yarn is not strong enough for weaving, one needs to add new yarns to the recycled yarns in order to use them for the industrial machines. But why not be open for new ways of making garments?”
http://bkaccelerator.com/self-cleaning-fabrics-future-new-research-says-yes/
http://bkaccelerator.com/self-cleaning-fabrics-future-new-research-says-yes/
19 July 2016 04:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
“If only we would accept being part of nature instead of always drawing the typical separation between man and nature,” says Montalti, “it’s food for thought for the public.”
But it’s not only food for thought for the public; exhibits like Fungal Futures are a challenge to the industry as well.
“Designers hold a great responsibility,” says Montalti. “If you really think that this kind of material and product can make a difference and can positively impact our relationship to our ecosystem [then] the only way to make this happen is to make this come to the consumer,” says Montalti, “and the only way to do that is through industry.”
Like Montalti, while her dress design is unique – a kind of fungi couture – Hoitink sees potential for the use of mycelium on a larger scale, particularly given its properties. For example, its antibacterial powers. “Mycelium can be anti microbial or skin caring. Those properties are already part of fungi; it is just a matter of using it in the correct way,” says Hoitink. “We don’t need chemicals or silver layers to add these extra functions.” To give a textile antimicrobial properties, silver nanoparticles are incorporated into fibers like nylon. But these nanoparticles come at a cost. According to the nonprofit Beyond Pesticides, “Many consider silver to be more toxic than other metals when in nanoscale form and that these particles have a different toxicity mechanism compared to dissolved silver. Scientists have concluded that nanoparticles can pass easily into cells and affect cellular function, depending on their shape and size.”
Fungal Futures - Kristel Peters10 ©Marja_Verweij copy
Image: Fungal Futures – Kristel Peters10 ©Marja_Verweij
For any textile application where antimicrobial properties are desirable, Hoitink sees a potential for mycelium. Clothing is my ultimate goal, but there are more applications,” says Hoitink. “Think about antimicrobial curtains in hospitals or moist absorbent textiles for old houses.”
In fact, mycelium is already being used in a variety of fiber forms. Ecovative Design produces both Myco Foam and Myco Board, environmentally-friendly alternatives to styrofoam and particle board and for anyone who is interested in experimenting with fungal fibers, the company makes a GIY Mushroom Materials kit (that’s Grow It Yourself) so that you can grow your own fibers at home. In Denmark, product designer Jonas Edvard has used mycelium to create a fiber he calls MYX, which he uses in lampshades. These designers and others see mycelium as a sustainable, renewable alternative to petroleum-based products, and Montalti is confident that if time and research can continue to be devoted to mycelium, we have the opportunity to transition away from petroleum-based products.
“I feel certain about the fact that these materials will strongly impact the market and become one of the most viable alternatives to synthetics,” says Montalti.
ecovative
Image: Ecovative
Getting there however requires not only thinking innovatively about materials, but about the entire system at hand.
“The moment that we try to compete with plastic materials it’s a difficult challenge,” says Montalti, noting that “there are different parameters to take into account when looking at the value of the product.”
A more sustainable system will require innovative materials, but also, as Montalti points out “a new form of business model.” One that isn’t just focused on short term profits that come at any cost. “Everything needs to be questioned,” says Montalti, and that means not only how we make materials, but in what system we sell them and how we do business.
When it comes to the future of fashion, Hoitink agrees, pointing out that to move forward, we need to challenge ourselves to not just apply new materials to old methods, but to rethink the entire way of making clothing.
“People are stuck in the old ways of clothing production,” says Hoitink. “People ask me if I could make a yarn out of Mycelium. But why should I put a lot of effort in trying so, if growing pieces is much quicker and environmentally friendly? One of the problems of recycling is that the yarn is not strong enough for weaving, one needs to add new yarns to the recycled yarns in order to use them for the industrial machines. But why not be open for new ways of making garments?”
But it’s not only food for thought for the public; exhibits like Fungal Futures are a challenge to the industry as well.
“Designers hold a great responsibility,” says Montalti. “If you really think that this kind of material and product can make a difference and can positively impact our relationship to our ecosystem [then] the only way to make this happen is to make this come to the consumer,” says Montalti, “and the only way to do that is through industry.”
Like Montalti, while her dress design is unique – a kind of fungi couture – Hoitink sees potential for the use of mycelium on a larger scale, particularly given its properties. For example, its antibacterial powers. “Mycelium can be anti microbial or skin caring. Those properties are already part of fungi; it is just a matter of using it in the correct way,” says Hoitink. “We don’t need chemicals or silver layers to add these extra functions.” To give a textile antimicrobial properties, silver nanoparticles are incorporated into fibers like nylon. But these nanoparticles come at a cost. According to the nonprofit Beyond Pesticides, “Many consider silver to be more toxic than other metals when in nanoscale form and that these particles have a different toxicity mechanism compared to dissolved silver. Scientists have concluded that nanoparticles can pass easily into cells and affect cellular function, depending on their shape and size.”
Fungal Futures - Kristel Peters10 ©Marja_Verweij copy
Image: Fungal Futures – Kristel Peters10 ©Marja_Verweij
For any textile application where antimicrobial properties are desirable, Hoitink sees a potential for mycelium. Clothing is my ultimate goal, but there are more applications,” says Hoitink. “Think about antimicrobial curtains in hospitals or moist absorbent textiles for old houses.”
In fact, mycelium is already being used in a variety of fiber forms. Ecovative Design produces both Myco Foam and Myco Board, environmentally-friendly alternatives to styrofoam and particle board and for anyone who is interested in experimenting with fungal fibers, the company makes a GIY Mushroom Materials kit (that’s Grow It Yourself) so that you can grow your own fibers at home. In Denmark, product designer Jonas Edvard has used mycelium to create a fiber he calls MYX, which he uses in lampshades. These designers and others see mycelium as a sustainable, renewable alternative to petroleum-based products, and Montalti is confident that if time and research can continue to be devoted to mycelium, we have the opportunity to transition away from petroleum-based products.
“I feel certain about the fact that these materials will strongly impact the market and become one of the most viable alternatives to synthetics,” says Montalti.
ecovative
Image: Ecovative
Getting there however requires not only thinking innovatively about materials, but about the entire system at hand.
“The moment that we try to compete with plastic materials it’s a difficult challenge,” says Montalti, noting that “there are different parameters to take into account when looking at the value of the product.”
A more sustainable system will require innovative materials, but also, as Montalti points out “a new form of business model.” One that isn’t just focused on short term profits that come at any cost. “Everything needs to be questioned,” says Montalti, and that means not only how we make materials, but in what system we sell them and how we do business.
When it comes to the future of fashion, Hoitink agrees, pointing out that to move forward, we need to challenge ourselves to not just apply new materials to old methods, but to rethink the entire way of making clothing.
“People are stuck in the old ways of clothing production,” says Hoitink. “People ask me if I could make a yarn out of Mycelium. But why should I put a lot of effort in trying so, if growing pieces is much quicker and environmentally friendly? One of the problems of recycling is that the yarn is not strong enough for weaving, one needs to add new yarns to the recycled yarns in order to use them for the industrial machines. But why not be open for new ways of making garments?”
19 July 2016 04:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Forward thinking design innovation is showing us we need to rethink the resources available to us. For many designers, the future of fiber is not in pulling more resources from the ground; it’s growing them.
Consider the mushroom. While most of us are used to fungi as food, many designers have turned to mycelium, the vegetative part of a fungus (basically the roots of a mushroom) for use as fiber. The latest designer to make waves is Aniela Hoitink. With help from the Myco Design Lab, a collaboration of the University of Utrecht, Officina Corpuscoli and Mediamatic, Hoitink concocted a way to make a garment entirely from mycelium, and the resulting dress made from her MycoTEX fiber is currently on display at the Fungal Futures exhibit at the Universiteitsmuseum in Utrecht.
“I have a great interest in technology and microbiology and am always looking for potential opportunities to use one of them in textiles,” says Hoitink. “So when I saw an open call for mycelium research, I was immediately interested. Mycelium has a lot of great properties like isolating, water repellence, anti microbial or even skin caring. These properties are perfect to use in textiles.”
MycoTEX-dried-samples copy
Image: MycoTEX
This fungal fiber begins in a petri dish, where Hoitink grows the mycelium.
“After 2 weeks the mycelium is fully grown and can be harvested. After that, the mycelium shapes have to be marinated in another liquid. Then I take them out and put the circular shapes on a 3D mold of a women’s figure, that is when I make and shape the garment. During drying, the mycelium will stick together and the garment is ready.”
This makes for a garment that is not only unique, but also entirely compostable, something that Hoitink believes should be a consideration of the design process. “Nowadays our consumption rate is ever increasing and, as part of such disposable culture, we hardly repair anything. So why not base our textile and clothing production on this disposable culture and make garments that are 100% biodegradable and maybe only last for 1 or 2 years,” says Hoitink. “This way, we can still buy new stuff and throw away the old, without actually adding to the huge textile waste mountain.”
From growing shoes to building materials, when it comes to a sustainable material, mycelium has a lot of potential. But first we have to tackle our perception of it.
“People tend to disregard fungi because they associate them with disgust,” says Maurizio Montalti, the designer behind the Fungal Futures exhibit. Montalti also works with mycelium, founding the company Mycoplast in 2015.
http://bkaccelerator.com/fungus-fiber-developing-using-mushrooms-make-textiles/
Consider the mushroom. While most of us are used to fungi as food, many designers have turned to mycelium, the vegetative part of a fungus (basically the roots of a mushroom) for use as fiber. The latest designer to make waves is Aniela Hoitink. With help from the Myco Design Lab, a collaboration of the University of Utrecht, Officina Corpuscoli and Mediamatic, Hoitink concocted a way to make a garment entirely from mycelium, and the resulting dress made from her MycoTEX fiber is currently on display at the Fungal Futures exhibit at the Universiteitsmuseum in Utrecht.
“I have a great interest in technology and microbiology and am always looking for potential opportunities to use one of them in textiles,” says Hoitink. “So when I saw an open call for mycelium research, I was immediately interested. Mycelium has a lot of great properties like isolating, water repellence, anti microbial or even skin caring. These properties are perfect to use in textiles.”
MycoTEX-dried-samples copy
Image: MycoTEX
This fungal fiber begins in a petri dish, where Hoitink grows the mycelium.
“After 2 weeks the mycelium is fully grown and can be harvested. After that, the mycelium shapes have to be marinated in another liquid. Then I take them out and put the circular shapes on a 3D mold of a women’s figure, that is when I make and shape the garment. During drying, the mycelium will stick together and the garment is ready.”
This makes for a garment that is not only unique, but also entirely compostable, something that Hoitink believes should be a consideration of the design process. “Nowadays our consumption rate is ever increasing and, as part of such disposable culture, we hardly repair anything. So why not base our textile and clothing production on this disposable culture and make garments that are 100% biodegradable and maybe only last for 1 or 2 years,” says Hoitink. “This way, we can still buy new stuff and throw away the old, without actually adding to the huge textile waste mountain.”
From growing shoes to building materials, when it comes to a sustainable material, mycelium has a lot of potential. But first we have to tackle our perception of it.
“People tend to disregard fungi because they associate them with disgust,” says Maurizio Montalti, the designer behind the Fungal Futures exhibit. Montalti also works with mycelium, founding the company Mycoplast in 2015.
http://bkaccelerator.com/fungus-fiber-developing-using-mushrooms-make-textiles/
http://bkaccelerator.com/fungus-fiber-developing-using-mushrooms-make-textiles/
19 July 2016 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
https://youtu.be/ECD_ds41gY8?t=1
https://youtu.be/ECD_ds41gY8?t=1
https://youtu.be/ECD_ds41gY8?t=1
19 July 2016 04:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Right now there are several cutting edge technologies on the market and in the fabrication process of developing mushroom-made materials. This includes mushroom “leather,” and “suede,” such as that produced by MuSkin, a company that makes 100% biodegradable vegetal leather by extracting and “tanning” mushroom caps. However it goes beyond just mushrooms. Erin Smith, artist in residence at Microsoft Research, went so far as to brew her own wedding dress using a combination of tree mulch and mycelium.
“I think the ability for us to grow our own clothing could have great positive potential,” says Smith. “Growing clothing from scratch could both eliminate carbon emissions caused by transportation and allow for a garment that can be grown to your precise dimensions and specifications. It’s essential that consumers become more aware of the continued lifespan of their things once they’ve been thrown away,” she says. “Any object made from materials that will outlive its intended use is a part of our global waste problem.”
The mycelium Smith used for her dress was bred in a tub of agricultural waste requiring very little added energy. Once the dress had been worn, it could be composted in the garden. She made the decision to grow her own dress because she didn’t want her wedding to be dictated by tradition and to have to wear something that would just sit in her wardrobe after the event.
Smith’s decision touches on several of the less fabulous points of the clothing industry - its horrendous energy consumption, as well as its reliance on extreme quantities of water. According to WWF, it can take up to 20,000 liters of water to produce just one T-shirt and a pair of jeans. In an experiment done by a team at the University of Western Australia in 2004, researchers produced Scoby Tec’s biker jacket brewed from kombucha (a fermented drink made with tea, sugar, bacteria and yeast) and claimed that only 60 liters of water were required for one square metre of its leather.
http://www.labroots.com/trending/earth-and-the-environment/3587/mushroom-made-twist-clothing
“I think the ability for us to grow our own clothing could have great positive potential,” says Smith. “Growing clothing from scratch could both eliminate carbon emissions caused by transportation and allow for a garment that can be grown to your precise dimensions and specifications. It’s essential that consumers become more aware of the continued lifespan of their things once they’ve been thrown away,” she says. “Any object made from materials that will outlive its intended use is a part of our global waste problem.”
The mycelium Smith used for her dress was bred in a tub of agricultural waste requiring very little added energy. Once the dress had been worn, it could be composted in the garden. She made the decision to grow her own dress because she didn’t want her wedding to be dictated by tradition and to have to wear something that would just sit in her wardrobe after the event.
Smith’s decision touches on several of the less fabulous points of the clothing industry - its horrendous energy consumption, as well as its reliance on extreme quantities of water. According to WWF, it can take up to 20,000 liters of water to produce just one T-shirt and a pair of jeans. In an experiment done by a team at the University of Western Australia in 2004, researchers produced Scoby Tec’s biker jacket brewed from kombucha (a fermented drink made with tea, sugar, bacteria and yeast) and claimed that only 60 liters of water were required for one square metre of its leather.
http://www.labroots.com/trending/earth-and-the-environment/3587/mushroom-made-twist-clothing
http://www.labroots.com/trending/earth-and-the-environment/3587/mushroom-made-twist-clothing
19 July 2016 04:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
n. 1 a: A 100 percent biodegradable vegetal leather, extracted from mushroom caps and “tanned” using chemical-free methods. b: Resembles suede but is “much softer,” according to Italy-based textile manufacturer GradoZero Espace. c: Described as breathable, pliable, naturally water-repellant, and suitable for direct contact with human skin. d: Claims to stymie the proliferation of bacteria. 2: Easily shaped into myriad three-dimensional forms, including purses, watch straps, shoe insoles, and hats. 3: Similar to Myx, a Danish-made textile made by fusing commercial mushroom production waste with hemp or linen fibers to create a durable yet flexible matrix.
http://www.ecouterre.com/muskin-a-vegan-leather-made-entirely-from-mushrooms/
http://www.ecouterre.com/muskin-a-vegan-leather-made-entirely-from-mushrooms/
http://www.ecouterre.com/muskin-a-vegan-leather-made-entirely-from-mushrooms/
19 July 2016 04:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"MuSkin is a skin extracted from the mushroom hat of the Phellinus ellipsoideus and is processed in a manner totally similar to that animal, with a tanning, however, entirely natural. The total absence of chemicals makes Muskin totally non-toxic and therefore ideal for use in the manufacture of items that are in direct contact with the skin. From laboratory tests it has been shown that this new skin, delivers great performance. In fact, in addition to not promote the proliferation of bacteria, has a strong capacity to absorb moisture and then to release it.
These two factors are very important: just think its possible use in insoles for shoes, or in a watch straps. Moreover it is breathable and has showed natural water repellent characteristics.
Its size approximately goes from 10~13*15~20 cm., for smaller pieces, to 20~25*35~40 cm., for larger one. Quantities at the moment are limited to 4~5 sq. meters/month but more than sufficient for small series productions.
The appearance of MUSKIN is very similar to suede but much softer. "
http://lifematerials.eu/en/shop/muskin-campioni/
These two factors are very important: just think its possible use in insoles for shoes, or in a watch straps. Moreover it is breathable and has showed natural water repellent characteristics.
Its size approximately goes from 10~13*15~20 cm., for smaller pieces, to 20~25*35~40 cm., for larger one. Quantities at the moment are limited to 4~5 sq. meters/month but more than sufficient for small series productions.
The appearance of MUSKIN is very similar to suede but much softer. "
http://lifematerials.eu/en/shop/muskin-campioni/
http://lifematerials.eu/en/shop/muskin-campioni/
19 July 2016 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on Enit Arusoo's photo.
Oot, Sa polegi enam minust hõredam v :p
19 July 2016 03:44
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
jup jup
19 July 2016 03:25
Margus Meigo replied to Janet Poola's comment.
kuidas nii?
19 July 2016 03:24
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
iiiiu
19 July 2016 03:24
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's photo.
Nii kena-nii kena elus Naine oled
19 July 2016 03:22
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
(L)
19 July 2016 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
yess!!
19 July 2016 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Darwin solvas loodust sellega jah päris korralikult..
19 July 2016 00:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
From an interview with Watson in "Vegetarians in Paradise, August 11, 2004":
"I invited my early readers to suggest a more concise word to replace "non-dairy vegetarian." Some bizarre suggestions were made like "dairyban, vitan, benevore, sanivore, beaumangeur", et cetera. I settled for my own word, "vegan", containing the first three and last two letters of "vegetarian"—"the beginning and end of vegetarian." The word was accepted by the Oxford English Dictionary and no one has tried to improve it."
http://www.vegparadise.com/24carrot610.html
"I invited my early readers to suggest a more concise word to replace "non-dairy vegetarian." Some bizarre suggestions were made like "dairyban, vitan, benevore, sanivore, beaumangeur", et cetera. I settled for my own word, "vegan", containing the first three and last two letters of "vegetarian"—"the beginning and end of vegetarian." The word was accepted by the Oxford English Dictionary and no one has tried to improve it."
http://www.vegparadise.com/24carrot610.html
http://www.vegparadise.com/24carrot610.html
19 July 2016 00:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
the origins of ‘vegetarian’ had been lost, and in his 1906 book ‘The Logic of Vegetarianism’, Henry Salt wrote:
No-one has a better right to speak on this matter than Professor J.E.B. Mayor, the great Latin scholar, and he stated that, looking at the word etymologically, “vegetarian” cannot mean “an eater of vegetables.” It is derived from vegetus, “vigorous,” and means, strictly interpreted, “one who aims at vigour.”
Vegetarian can equally be seen as derived from the late Latin ‘vegetabile’ – meaning plant – as in Regnum Vegetabile /Plant Kingdom. Hence vegetable, vegetation – and vegetarian. Though others suggest that 'vegetable' itself is derived from 'vegetus'. But it’s very unlikely that the originators went through all that either – they really did just join ‘vegetable+arian’, as the dictionaries have said all along.
Of course words change over time, and dictionaries do not decide the meanings of words, they merely reflect common usage.
The classic example of change is the word ‘gay’ – which some younger people today might not even know used to mean just ‘happy’. Back in the 1970s I did a lot of sailing with a friend who had restored a 1930s boat, and he refused to change the name from its original ‘The Gay Lady’ – which brought a few comments from other passing sailors…
So ‘vegetarian’ today means whatever most people use it to mean – and in the west it has become synonymous with ‘vegetable-egg-and-milk eater’ (at one time called the VEM diet), or in India just vegetable-and-milk.
...
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-etymology-of-the-term-vegan-vs-vegetarian
No-one has a better right to speak on this matter than Professor J.E.B. Mayor, the great Latin scholar, and he stated that, looking at the word etymologically, “vegetarian” cannot mean “an eater of vegetables.” It is derived from vegetus, “vigorous,” and means, strictly interpreted, “one who aims at vigour.”
Vegetarian can equally be seen as derived from the late Latin ‘vegetabile’ – meaning plant – as in Regnum Vegetabile /Plant Kingdom. Hence vegetable, vegetation – and vegetarian. Though others suggest that 'vegetable' itself is derived from 'vegetus'. But it’s very unlikely that the originators went through all that either – they really did just join ‘vegetable+arian’, as the dictionaries have said all along.
Of course words change over time, and dictionaries do not decide the meanings of words, they merely reflect common usage.
The classic example of change is the word ‘gay’ – which some younger people today might not even know used to mean just ‘happy’. Back in the 1970s I did a lot of sailing with a friend who had restored a 1930s boat, and he refused to change the name from its original ‘The Gay Lady’ – which brought a few comments from other passing sailors…
So ‘vegetarian’ today means whatever most people use it to mean – and in the west it has become synonymous with ‘vegetable-egg-and-milk eater’ (at one time called the VEM diet), or in India just vegetable-and-milk.
...
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-etymology-of-the-term-vegan-vs-vegetarian
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-etymology-of-the-term-vegan-vs-vegetarian
19 July 2016 00:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
# Origin of the Word "Vegetarian"
The word vegetarian, coined by the founders of the British Vegetarian Society in 1842, comes from the Latin word vegetus, meaning "whole, sound, fresh, or lively," as in **** vegetus-a mentally and physically vigorous person. The original meaning of the word implies a balanced philosophical and moral sense of life, a lot more than just a diet of vegetables and fruits.
# Origin of the Word "Vegan"
The word vegan pronounced /ˈviËgÉ™n/ [vee-gun], was originally derived from vegetarian in 1944 when Elsie Shrigley and Donald Watson, frustrated that the term "vegetarianism" had come to include the eating of dairy products, founded the UK Vegan Society. "Vegan", which they saw as "the beginning and end of vegetarian", started and ended with the first three and last two letters of vegetarian.
The word vegetarian, coined by the founders of the British Vegetarian Society in 1842, comes from the Latin word vegetus, meaning "whole, sound, fresh, or lively," as in **** vegetus-a mentally and physically vigorous person. The original meaning of the word implies a balanced philosophical and moral sense of life, a lot more than just a diet of vegetables and fruits.
# Origin of the Word "Vegan"
The word vegan pronounced /ˈviËgÉ™n/ [vee-gun], was originally derived from vegetarian in 1944 when Elsie Shrigley and Donald Watson, frustrated that the term "vegetarianism" had come to include the eating of dairy products, founded the UK Vegan Society. "Vegan", which they saw as "the beginning and end of vegetarian", started and ended with the first three and last two letters of vegetarian.
19 July 2016 00:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Vegetarian; Native American definition for lousy hunter."
That is something that was made as joke and there are... shirts, hats, coffee mugs ...that have that saying on them.
This has no connection to any tribe that I know of.
That is something that was made as joke and there are... shirts, hats, coffee mugs ...that have that saying on them.
This has no connection to any tribe that I know of.
19 July 2016 00:18
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
"To answer your question more precisely, many Indian religions mandate a vegetarian diet. There are several scriptures banning both the killing and consumption of animals, so even if the word vegetarian had been around in olden times, it would have referred to a pious follower of Ahimsa. A hunter (even a bad one) would have been seen as a wicked and sinning individual.
If by "Indian" you were referring to Native American culture, the answer is still no. Not only was the word far from existing during the point in time when Native American culture was untouched by Europeans, but their belief system was more closely related to the present day vegetarian's than the present day omnivore's. Native American hunters held their prey with great reverence and respect, taking only what was needed from animals and using absolutely everything. They relied heavily on the land, and those who tended the crops rather than hunt were treated with great respect as well. For more information about Native Americans and vegetarianism, you may want to read this article: "
http://www.ivu.org/history/native_americans.html
If by "Indian" you were referring to Native American culture, the answer is still no. Not only was the word far from existing during the point in time when Native American culture was untouched by Europeans, but their belief system was more closely related to the present day vegetarian's than the present day omnivore's. Native American hunters held their prey with great reverence and respect, taking only what was needed from animals and using absolutely everything. They relied heavily on the land, and those who tended the crops rather than hunt were treated with great respect as well. For more information about Native Americans and vegetarianism, you may want to read this article: "
http://www.ivu.org/history/native_americans.html
http://www.ivu.org/history/native_americans.html
19 July 2016 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
vastuseid netist, alustuseks:
" There are no "Native American" words for anything, as there is no such language as Native American. There are thousands of languages/dialects spoken by Native Americans"
" That is like asking how do you say Lousy Hunter in European? Or in Caucasian. I don't speak Paiute, Duwamish, or any of the 50+ other languages that can be found in Washington/Oregon, so I wouldn't be able to interpret what names may mean, even though I am Native....odeshaawaadendaan(get it)? "
" There are no "Native American" words for anything, as there is no such language as Native American. There are thousands of languages/dialects spoken by Native Americans"
" That is like asking how do you say Lousy Hunter in European? Or in Caucasian. I don't speak Paiute, Duwamish, or any of the 50+ other languages that can be found in Washington/Oregon, so I wouldn't be able to interpret what names may mean, even though I am Native....odeshaawaadendaan(get it)? "
19 July 2016 00:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
motto of the Fabian Society,
Do unto them as they do unto others,
http://www.courtofrecord.org/gicor/record/US/faxes/Israel/Israel_Rothschild-12-November-2015.pdf
Do unto them as they do unto others,
http://www.courtofrecord.org/gicor/record/US/faxes/Israel/Israel_Rothschild-12-November-2015.pdf
18 July 2016 10:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.courtofrecord.org/
http://www.courtofrecord.org/
18 July 2016 10:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" .. Rob Brotherton, a research psychologist and leading expert on the psychology of conspiracy theory, explores the history and consequences of conspiracism, and offers insights into why so many of us are drawn to implausible, unproven and unprovable conspiracy theories. They resonate with some of our brain’s built-in quirks and foibles, and tap into some of our deepest desires, fears, and assumptions about the world. But conspiracy theories are not unique in eliciting our brain’s biases. From our love of heroic underdogs to our tendency to see hidden hands behind ambiguous events, the same mental quirks that make conspiracy theories appealing are constantly shaping how we think about the world. Most of the time our biases simply slip by unnoticed.
The fascinating psychology of conspiracy theories tells us a lot about how our minds are wired and, indeed, why we believe anything at all. Conspiracy theories are not some psychological aberration—they’re a predictable product of how brains work. And, of course, just because your brain’s biased doesn’t always mean you’re wrong. Sometimes conspiracies are real. Sometimes, paranoia is prudent.
https://conspiracypsychology.com/2015/11/02/suspicious-minds-why-we-believe-conspiracy-theories/
The fascinating psychology of conspiracy theories tells us a lot about how our minds are wired and, indeed, why we believe anything at all. Conspiracy theories are not some psychological aberration—they’re a predictable product of how brains work. And, of course, just because your brain’s biased doesn’t always mean you’re wrong. Sometimes conspiracies are real. Sometimes, paranoia is prudent.
https://conspiracypsychology.com/2015/11/02/suspicious-minds-why-we-believe-conspiracy-theories/
https://conspiracypsychology.com/2015/11/02/suspicious-minds-why-we-believe-conspiracy-theories/
18 July 2016 10:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" .. And it’s frustrating. It’s frustrating because skeptics and rationalists ended up retweeting news stories that were just as bogus as the bad science they claim to stand against. It’s frustrating because a paper that lashes out against the idea that scientists might be engaged in covering up bad research turns out to be an example of bad research that slipped through peer review. It’s frustrating because the model was so ill thought that Anne Atkins on Radio 4's Thought for the Day was able to use it as evidence for the resurrection of Christ – after all, if so many people bore witness to it then the maths "proves" that a conspiracy to conceal the truth could not have lasted two millennia.
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/03/the_mathematics.html
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/03/the_mathematics.html
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/03/the_mathematics.html
18 July 2016 10:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Labour can only win if it captures the centre-ground and builds policy based on the clear
consensus of the majority of people in the middle argues Tessa Jowell
Labour needs to ensure that
it doesn’t become trapped in
a downward spiral whereby
those in lower socio-economic
groups don’t vote as much,
so Labour stops shaping
policies for them, and as a
consequence they don’t turn
out to vote...
http://www.howtomanuals.net/how-labour-wins-fabian-society.html?page=8
consensus of the majority of people in the middle argues Tessa Jowell
Labour needs to ensure that
it doesn’t become trapped in
a downward spiral whereby
those in lower socio-economic
groups don’t vote as much,
so Labour stops shaping
policies for them, and as a
consequence they don’t turn
out to vote...
http://www.howtomanuals.net/how-labour-wins-fabian-society.html?page=8
http://www.howtomanuals.net/how-labour-wins-fabian-society.html?page=8
18 July 2016 10:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"... He describes himself as ‘a Londoner’, ‘a father, ’a Muslim’, ‘a Fabian’ and ‘a long-suffering Liverpool fan’. To those labels, Sadiq Khan can now add another: mayor of London.
Khan’s victory in last week’s election made all kinds of history. It was Labour’s greatest electoral victory since 2005. His 1.3m votes gave him the largest personal mandate ever enjoyed by a British politician. And he is now the most powerful Muslim politician in the West.
Not bad for a bus driver’s son from Tooting. Indeed, Khan’s upbringing is hardly typical among politicians. Born to Pakistani immigrants, he grew up with his seven siblings in a cramped council flat.
http://theday.co.uk/politics/from-paperboy-to-mayor-the-sadiq-story
Khan’s victory in last week’s election made all kinds of history. It was Labour’s greatest electoral victory since 2005. His 1.3m votes gave him the largest personal mandate ever enjoyed by a British politician. And he is now the most powerful Muslim politician in the West.
Not bad for a bus driver’s son from Tooting. Indeed, Khan’s upbringing is hardly typical among politicians. Born to Pakistani immigrants, he grew up with his seven siblings in a cramped council flat.
http://theday.co.uk/politics/from-paperboy-to-mayor-the-sadiq-story
http://theday.co.uk/politics/from-paperboy-to-mayor-the-sadiq-story
18 July 2016 10:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
These have been the approaches adopted by the Institute of Public Policy Research (IPPR), the Smith Institute and the Fabian Society.[21] In effect, this has meant that the right-wing thinktanks’ definition of a ‘crisis of multiculturalism’ has not been challenged and the Left has differed only in the sorts of solutions it proposes. While IPPR, in particular, has over the last few years published reports that question the perception of an ‘immigration crisis’, it has not done the same to challenge the idea of a ‘multiculturalism crisis’ or a ‘Muslim problem’.
The only major thinktank that has attempted an alternative approach to notions of Muslim extremism is Demos. Its research has sought to challenge the conflation of Islamism, Islamic fundamentalism and terrorism. In July 2008, as part of this research project, Demos decided to host a session at the Islam Expo in London Olympia on the subject of ‘The Islamist Threat: myth or reality?’.[22] But Demos’ involvement drew a storm of protest as critics such as Martin Bright branded the event ‘Hamas at Olympia’.[23] Nick Cohen accused Demos of ‘appeasement’ and ‘collaborating’ with a fascist enemy.[24] Demos’ then director Catherine Fieschi resigned on the following Monday.
What of the political magazines of the liberal centre and centre-Left? Again, rather than challenge the tenets of the Right’s framework on these issues, the approach has been one of borrowing and adaptation. The liberal Prospect magazine, for example, has promoted a debate on whether the Left’s support for multiculturalism has been misguided. Its editor David Goodhart argued in his influential 2004 essay, ‘Too Diverse?’, that multiculturalism should be dropped since the welfare state was incompatible with ethnic diversity – a view that was influential with the Labour government. On British Muslims, Goodhart has written that he hopes that a ‘moderate’ leadership will emerge to defuse the Islamist threat and foster integration. What, though, makes a ‘moderate’ Muslim?
http://www.irr.org.uk/news/how-are-thinktanks-shaping-the-political-agenda-on-muslims-in-britain/
..The interpretation of ‘Islamic extremism’ that has been fostered by PX, the SAU and the CSC is likely to feed into this process.
It is of course true that some interpretations of multiculturalism have been counter-productive and that Muslim political leaders need to be held to account by the communities they represent. But that is a far cry from the political agenda implied by these writers. Certainly, their writings can be seen as contributing to an ideological atmosphere in which attacks on multiculturalism and demands to restrict civil liberties, suppress democratic Muslim voices and downplay the legitimate issues that fuel Muslim anger at western states all become increasingly acceptable and part of a common political agenda across the party divide
The only major thinktank that has attempted an alternative approach to notions of Muslim extremism is Demos. Its research has sought to challenge the conflation of Islamism, Islamic fundamentalism and terrorism. In July 2008, as part of this research project, Demos decided to host a session at the Islam Expo in London Olympia on the subject of ‘The Islamist Threat: myth or reality?’.[22] But Demos’ involvement drew a storm of protest as critics such as Martin Bright branded the event ‘Hamas at Olympia’.[23] Nick Cohen accused Demos of ‘appeasement’ and ‘collaborating’ with a fascist enemy.[24] Demos’ then director Catherine Fieschi resigned on the following Monday.
What of the political magazines of the liberal centre and centre-Left? Again, rather than challenge the tenets of the Right’s framework on these issues, the approach has been one of borrowing and adaptation. The liberal Prospect magazine, for example, has promoted a debate on whether the Left’s support for multiculturalism has been misguided. Its editor David Goodhart argued in his influential 2004 essay, ‘Too Diverse?’, that multiculturalism should be dropped since the welfare state was incompatible with ethnic diversity – a view that was influential with the Labour government. On British Muslims, Goodhart has written that he hopes that a ‘moderate’ leadership will emerge to defuse the Islamist threat and foster integration. What, though, makes a ‘moderate’ Muslim?
http://www.irr.org.uk/news/how-are-thinktanks-shaping-the-political-agenda-on-muslims-in-britain/
..The interpretation of ‘Islamic extremism’ that has been fostered by PX, the SAU and the CSC is likely to feed into this process.
It is of course true that some interpretations of multiculturalism have been counter-productive and that Muslim political leaders need to be held to account by the communities they represent. But that is a far cry from the political agenda implied by these writers. Certainly, their writings can be seen as contributing to an ideological atmosphere in which attacks on multiculturalism and demands to restrict civil liberties, suppress democratic Muslim voices and downplay the legitimate issues that fuel Muslim anger at western states all become increasingly acceptable and part of a common political agenda across the party divide
http://www.irr.org.uk/news/how-are-thinktanks-shaping-the-political-agenda-on-muslims-in-britain/
18 July 2016 10:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Fabians originally were a faux elite group of pseudo-intellectuals who formed a semi-secret society for the objective of bringing socialism to the world. Whereas Communists wanted to establish socialism through violence and revolution, the Fabians preferred to do it gradually through propaganda, infiltration and legislation. The word socialism was never to be used. Instead, they would always speak of benefits for the people such as pensions, welfare, medical care, higher wages, and better working conditions.
The Fabians have the same goal as the communists just different methods.
In this way, they planned to accomplish theirobjectivewithout bloodshed and even without serious opposition. They scorned the Communists, not because they disliked their goals, but because they disagreed with their methods. To emphasize the importance of gradualism, they adopted the turtle as the symbol of their movement.
// (from sheep in wolf clothing...)
https://www.google.ee/search?q=%22Fabian+Society+%E2%80%93+A+Wolf+In+Sheep%E2%80%99s+Clothing%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=TICMV_-FJ-fk8AfIvZL4Dg
http://pressoracle.com/423062828-the-fabian-society-8211-a-wolf-in-sheep-8217-s-nbsp-clothing/ (random)
The Fabians have the same goal as the communists just different methods.
In this way, they planned to accomplish theirobjectivewithout bloodshed and even without serious opposition. They scorned the Communists, not because they disliked their goals, but because they disagreed with their methods. To emphasize the importance of gradualism, they adopted the turtle as the symbol of their movement.
// (from sheep in wolf clothing...)
https://www.google.ee/search?q=%22Fabian+Society+%E2%80%93+A+Wolf+In+Sheep%E2%80%99s+Clothing%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=TICMV_-FJ-fk8AfIvZL4Dg
http://pressoracle.com/423062828-the-fabian-society-8211-a-wolf-in-sheep-8217-s-nbsp-clothing/ (random)
https://www.google.ee/search?q=%22Fabian+Society+%E2%80%93+A+Wolf+In+Sheep%E2%80%99s+Clothing%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=TICMV_-FJ-fk8AfIvZL4Dg
18 July 2016 10:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
However, if Corbyn was feeling threatened and backed into a corner by the mass-mutiny, it didn’t show.
He quickly moved to replace all those who had jumped ship, and the new shadow cabinet is, presently, as follows:
Shadow foreign secretary – Emily Thornberry (MP for Islington South and Finsbury)
Shadow health secretary – Diane Abbott (MP for Hackney)
Shadow education secretary – Pat Glass (MP for North West Durham)
Shadow transport secretary – Andy McDonald (MP for Middlesbrough)
Shadow defence secretary – Clive Lewis (MP for Norwich South)
Shadow chief secretary to the Treasury – Rebecca Long-Bailey (MP for Salford and Eccles)
Shadow international development secretary – Kate Osamor (MP for Edmonton)
Shadow environment food and rural affairs secretary – Rachel Maskell (MP for York Central)
Shadow voter engagement and youth affairs – Cat Smith (MP for Lancaster and Fleetwood)
Shadow Northern Ireland secretary – Dave Anderson (MP for Blaydon)
There are numerous interesting connotations that can be drawn from these appointments.
Firstly, four of these MPs (Lewis, Long-Bailey, Osamor and Smith) are “rookies” from the 2015 general election. Experience in parliament may not always trump that garnered in life – Clive Lewis, for example, passed through military training academy Sandhurst as an infantry officer in the Territorial Army, serving in Afghanistan for three months. However, those who are wanting to see Corbyn removed will surely cite the fact these “freshers” have been promoted too quickly.
Corbyn has also placed people around him who nominated him to be on the leadership ballot last year, meaning that a third of the Shadow front bench are now “comrades”.
Both Kate Osamor and Cat Smith came out vocally at the weekend on social media in support of Corbyn:
Labour Party needs to unite behind our leader.We cannot descend into infighting at this critical stage. Lets bring the fight to the tories
— Kate Osamor MP (@KateOsamor) June 26, 2016
Labour is a democratic socialist party whose members democratically elected Jeremy Corbyn less than a year ago. MPs should respect that.
— Cat Smith (@CatSmithMP) June 26, 2016
The Labour party now has a leader, chancellor and shadow foreign and defence secretaries who all support the scrapping of Trident – a quadrant which is certainly at odds with the majority of the parliamentary Labour party (PLP).
With the PLP set to meet Monday evening and a formal no-confidence motion waiting to be discussed, by shoring up his shadow cabinet with allies and vocal supporters, Corbyn has sent a very clear message to his detractors.
At present, Corbyn appears to be going no-where, which to factions within the PLP will most likely be infuriating.
But to the 200,000 people who have signed the “Vote of confidence in Jeremy Corbyn” petition, it will be music to their ears.
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https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/government-and-public-sector/house/75333/conor-mcginn-people-dont-feel-labour-listens-them
Having joined the Labour party shortly after arriving in Britain in 2002, McGinn became chair of the Young Fabians. He says: “That challenged a lot of prejudices – a working class Paddy who becomes the chair of the youth wing of the intellectual side of the party.
“I firmly believe the Labour party is most successful when the organising wing and the intellectual wings coalesce. Part of the difficulty the Labour party is in today is we’ve somehow saw those two as competing rather than complementary.”
A resident of Islington for over a decade, he twice tried and failed to get elected to the local council. Undeterred, he applied to be Vernon Coaker’s adviser when he was appointed shadow Northern Ireland secretary by Ed Miliband.
He quickly moved to replace all those who had jumped ship, and the new shadow cabinet is, presently, as follows:
Shadow foreign secretary – Emily Thornberry (MP for Islington South and Finsbury)
Shadow health secretary – Diane Abbott (MP for Hackney)
Shadow education secretary – Pat Glass (MP for North West Durham)
Shadow transport secretary – Andy McDonald (MP for Middlesbrough)
Shadow defence secretary – Clive Lewis (MP for Norwich South)
Shadow chief secretary to the Treasury – Rebecca Long-Bailey (MP for Salford and Eccles)
Shadow international development secretary – Kate Osamor (MP for Edmonton)
Shadow environment food and rural affairs secretary – Rachel Maskell (MP for York Central)
Shadow voter engagement and youth affairs – Cat Smith (MP for Lancaster and Fleetwood)
Shadow Northern Ireland secretary – Dave Anderson (MP for Blaydon)
There are numerous interesting connotations that can be drawn from these appointments.
Firstly, four of these MPs (Lewis, Long-Bailey, Osamor and Smith) are “rookies” from the 2015 general election. Experience in parliament may not always trump that garnered in life – Clive Lewis, for example, passed through military training academy Sandhurst as an infantry officer in the Territorial Army, serving in Afghanistan for three months. However, those who are wanting to see Corbyn removed will surely cite the fact these “freshers” have been promoted too quickly.
Corbyn has also placed people around him who nominated him to be on the leadership ballot last year, meaning that a third of the Shadow front bench are now “comrades”.
Both Kate Osamor and Cat Smith came out vocally at the weekend on social media in support of Corbyn:
Labour Party needs to unite behind our leader.We cannot descend into infighting at this critical stage. Lets bring the fight to the tories
— Kate Osamor MP (@KateOsamor) June 26, 2016
Labour is a democratic socialist party whose members democratically elected Jeremy Corbyn less than a year ago. MPs should respect that.
— Cat Smith (@CatSmithMP) June 26, 2016
The Labour party now has a leader, chancellor and shadow foreign and defence secretaries who all support the scrapping of Trident – a quadrant which is certainly at odds with the majority of the parliamentary Labour party (PLP).
With the PLP set to meet Monday evening and a formal no-confidence motion waiting to be discussed, by shoring up his shadow cabinet with allies and vocal supporters, Corbyn has sent a very clear message to his detractors.
At present, Corbyn appears to be going no-where, which to factions within the PLP will most likely be infuriating.
But to the 200,000 people who have signed the “Vote of confidence in Jeremy Corbyn” petition, it will be music to their ears.
--
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/government-and-public-sector/house/75333/conor-mcginn-people-dont-feel-labour-listens-them
Having joined the Labour party shortly after arriving in Britain in 2002, McGinn became chair of the Young Fabians. He says: “That challenged a lot of prejudices – a working class Paddy who becomes the chair of the youth wing of the intellectual side of the party.
“I firmly believe the Labour party is most successful when the organising wing and the intellectual wings coalesce. Part of the difficulty the Labour party is in today is we’ve somehow saw those two as competing rather than complementary.”
A resident of Islington for over a decade, he twice tried and failed to get elected to the local council. Undeterred, he applied to be Vernon Coaker’s adviser when he was appointed shadow Northern Ireland secretary by Ed Miliband.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/government-and-public-sector/house/75333/conor-mcginn-people-dont-feel-labour-listens-them
18 July 2016 10:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Update:
This article originally said that Steve Race worked for Portland Communications; this was incorrect. He is an associate director of Blue Rubicon, whose former director of strategy, Spencer Livermore was campaign director for Labour’s 2015 election. Livermore was previously director of political strategy for Gordon Brown, and his colleague at Blue Rubicon, Patrick Loughran, was a SpAd for Lord Mandelson.
This article also stated that Gregor Poynton stood as a PPC in Falkirk. This has since been amended to reflect that Mr Poynton (married to former Labour MP Gemma Doyle), did not stand, but was embroiled in some controversy in Falkirk, after it was alleged he had paid for 11 people to join the Labour party.
http://www.thecanary.co/2016/06/27/resignations-keep-coming-corbyn-announces-shock-shadow-cabinet/
What began with the sacking of Hilary Benn, from his position as shadow foreign secretary in the early hours of Sunday morning, has quickly escalated. The majority of the Labour front bench collapsed, with 12 of the shadow cabinet resigning on Sunday and a further ten shadow ministers and four shadow secretaries of state leaving before Monday lunchtime – including Lisa Nandy and Owen Smith, who called for Corbyn to resign and Tom Watson to become “caretaker” leader, and Angela Eagle, shadow first secretary of state.
John Healey also resigned as shadow housing minister shortly before 12.30 along with Nia Griffiths, shadow Welsh secretary. Maria Eagle, shadow secretary of state for culture, quit the role just before 12.50 on Monday. Following her, Kate Green announced her intention to step down at 1.05pm.
Just after 1.30pm Nick Thomas-Symonds announced that he had resigned as a shadow employment minister, and at 2.25pm Luciana Berger resigned as shadow cabinet minister for mental health. At 4.40pm Keir Starmer resigned as shadow immigration minister. At 5.30pm Jack Dromey resigned as shadow policing minister.
Prominent figures to leave includes Jess Phillips, MP for Birmingham Yardley, who, somewhat bizarrely tweeted:
Seems slightly highfalutin to resign as I was just the PPS in the Education Team but it was Lucy who asked me, she is gone. So am I.
— Jess Phillips MP (@jessphillips) June 27, 2016
Steve Reed MP walked out as shadow local government minister, stating that:
A majority of Labour supporters in large parts of the north and Midlands voted to leave the EU because their connection with our party has broken. We are losing touch with them, a process which has been underway for some time but has speeded up under your leadership.
“Some time” is a wholly unquantifiable statement from Reed and, as The Canary reported yesterday, the tumultuous events we have witnessed last week have been decades in the making.
Some shadow cabinet ministers went even further, with Neil Coyle (who had nominated Corbyn in the leadership election) resigning live on Sky News:
Neil Coyle resigns as Labour PPS on Sky News https://t.co/5xUCH7iIVh
— Zoe Catchpole (@mazoe) June 27, 2016
Rumours are running amok surrounding just why these resignations have been seen en masse; from Corbyn’s alleged failure over the party’s remain campaign, to his stance on the Chilcot report into the Iraq war; however Sky News’ Sophie Ridge appeared to have another theory:
I'm told the Labour MP co-ordinating & choreographing the resignations is @ConorMcGinn – significant as he's in Jeremy Corbyn's Whips Office
— Sophy Ridge (@SophyRidgeSky) June 27, 2016
Ridge said that:
He’s ringing shadow cabinet members and ministers, organising the timings and co-ordinating the resignations to try to cause maximum impact. This is significant because he’s one of Jeremy Corbyn’s Whips – tasked with ensuring party discipline.
This would seem the most plausible answer. McGinn was appointed chair of the Young Fabians in 2002, and is still active in the society.
This article originally said that Steve Race worked for Portland Communications; this was incorrect. He is an associate director of Blue Rubicon, whose former director of strategy, Spencer Livermore was campaign director for Labour’s 2015 election. Livermore was previously director of political strategy for Gordon Brown, and his colleague at Blue Rubicon, Patrick Loughran, was a SpAd for Lord Mandelson.
This article also stated that Gregor Poynton stood as a PPC in Falkirk. This has since been amended to reflect that Mr Poynton (married to former Labour MP Gemma Doyle), did not stand, but was embroiled in some controversy in Falkirk, after it was alleged he had paid for 11 people to join the Labour party.
http://www.thecanary.co/2016/06/27/resignations-keep-coming-corbyn-announces-shock-shadow-cabinet/
What began with the sacking of Hilary Benn, from his position as shadow foreign secretary in the early hours of Sunday morning, has quickly escalated. The majority of the Labour front bench collapsed, with 12 of the shadow cabinet resigning on Sunday and a further ten shadow ministers and four shadow secretaries of state leaving before Monday lunchtime – including Lisa Nandy and Owen Smith, who called for Corbyn to resign and Tom Watson to become “caretaker” leader, and Angela Eagle, shadow first secretary of state.
John Healey also resigned as shadow housing minister shortly before 12.30 along with Nia Griffiths, shadow Welsh secretary. Maria Eagle, shadow secretary of state for culture, quit the role just before 12.50 on Monday. Following her, Kate Green announced her intention to step down at 1.05pm.
Just after 1.30pm Nick Thomas-Symonds announced that he had resigned as a shadow employment minister, and at 2.25pm Luciana Berger resigned as shadow cabinet minister for mental health. At 4.40pm Keir Starmer resigned as shadow immigration minister. At 5.30pm Jack Dromey resigned as shadow policing minister.
Prominent figures to leave includes Jess Phillips, MP for Birmingham Yardley, who, somewhat bizarrely tweeted:
Seems slightly highfalutin to resign as I was just the PPS in the Education Team but it was Lucy who asked me, she is gone. So am I.
— Jess Phillips MP (@jessphillips) June 27, 2016
Steve Reed MP walked out as shadow local government minister, stating that:
A majority of Labour supporters in large parts of the north and Midlands voted to leave the EU because their connection with our party has broken. We are losing touch with them, a process which has been underway for some time but has speeded up under your leadership.
“Some time” is a wholly unquantifiable statement from Reed and, as The Canary reported yesterday, the tumultuous events we have witnessed last week have been decades in the making.
Some shadow cabinet ministers went even further, with Neil Coyle (who had nominated Corbyn in the leadership election) resigning live on Sky News:
Neil Coyle resigns as Labour PPS on Sky News https://t.co/5xUCH7iIVh
— Zoe Catchpole (@mazoe) June 27, 2016
Rumours are running amok surrounding just why these resignations have been seen en masse; from Corbyn’s alleged failure over the party’s remain campaign, to his stance on the Chilcot report into the Iraq war; however Sky News’ Sophie Ridge appeared to have another theory:
I'm told the Labour MP co-ordinating & choreographing the resignations is @ConorMcGinn – significant as he's in Jeremy Corbyn's Whips Office
— Sophy Ridge (@SophyRidgeSky) June 27, 2016
Ridge said that:
He’s ringing shadow cabinet members and ministers, organising the timings and co-ordinating the resignations to try to cause maximum impact. This is significant because he’s one of Jeremy Corbyn’s Whips – tasked with ensuring party discipline.
This would seem the most plausible answer. McGinn was appointed chair of the Young Fabians in 2002, and is still active in the society.
http://www.thecanary.co/2016/06/27/resignations-keep-coming-corbyn-announces-shock-shadow-cabinet/
18 July 2016 10:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" As The Canary reported, it would appear that 15 of the shadow secretary of states and nine of the shadow ministers who resigned were affiliated to the Fabian Society. And it still appears that the Fabians are at the heart of this.
Sky’s Sophy Ridge tweeted on Monday:
I'm told the Labour MP co-ordinating & choreographing the resignations is @ConorMcGinn – significant as he's in Jeremy Corbyn's Whips Office
— Sophy Ridge (@SophyRidgeSky) June 27, 2016
e’s ringing shadow cabinet members and ministers, organising the timings and co-ordinating the resignations to try to cause maximum impact. This is significant because he’s one of Jeremy Corbyn’s Whips – tasked with ensuring party discipline.
As The Canary said:
McGinn was appointed chair of the Young Fabians, and is still active in the society […] And of course, Margaret Hodge, who co-penned the no-confidence motion, is vice president of the society. Take into account, also, Fabian journalists like Polly Toynbee calling Corbyn “dismal, spineless and lifeless” – and you may have your “committee of war”. Furthermore, former prospective parliamentary candidate and Fabian Will Straw called for Corbyn’s resignation – in his position as director of “Britian Stronger in Europe”.
http://www.thecanary.co/2016/06/28/truth-behind-labour-coup-really-began-manufactured-exclusive/
"In 2011, the Labour Party had also hired Marcus Robert’s consultancy outfit, Zentrum, to run the ‘refounding Labour’ campaign at the behest of Lord Peter Hain, another Cabinet minister under Blair. Effectively, then, the Fabian Society had been hijacked into a Blairite ‘refounding’ Labour process under Roberts’ leadership. According to Dan Hodges, citing “senior party officials,” Zentrum was “being used to effectively bypass the party.” “Someone is refounding Labour,” concluded Hodges. “But who?”.
" This is not a string of random acts. This is a coordinated attack on Corbyn’s leadership (because let’s be frank, that’s what it is), and it is coming from one source. The Fabian Society. A society who are funded by the likes of HSBC, Cuadrilla (who, oddly, Portland do PR work for) Barclays and Lloyds – while masking themselves with the veneer of advocating ” social progress […] gradualist, reformist and democratic means in a journey towards radical ends. We are a pluralist movement and create space for open debate.”
That, in itself, is debatable.
The Fabians have mobilised their assets in both the parliamentary Labour party, in the media and in the sphere of public relations, namely via Portland Communications – to inflict as much damage as possible on Corbyn
Sky’s Sophy Ridge tweeted on Monday:
I'm told the Labour MP co-ordinating & choreographing the resignations is @ConorMcGinn – significant as he's in Jeremy Corbyn's Whips Office
— Sophy Ridge (@SophyRidgeSky) June 27, 2016
e’s ringing shadow cabinet members and ministers, organising the timings and co-ordinating the resignations to try to cause maximum impact. This is significant because he’s one of Jeremy Corbyn’s Whips – tasked with ensuring party discipline.
As The Canary said:
McGinn was appointed chair of the Young Fabians, and is still active in the society […] And of course, Margaret Hodge, who co-penned the no-confidence motion, is vice president of the society. Take into account, also, Fabian journalists like Polly Toynbee calling Corbyn “dismal, spineless and lifeless” – and you may have your “committee of war”. Furthermore, former prospective parliamentary candidate and Fabian Will Straw called for Corbyn’s resignation – in his position as director of “Britian Stronger in Europe”.
http://www.thecanary.co/2016/06/28/truth-behind-labour-coup-really-began-manufactured-exclusive/
"In 2011, the Labour Party had also hired Marcus Robert’s consultancy outfit, Zentrum, to run the ‘refounding Labour’ campaign at the behest of Lord Peter Hain, another Cabinet minister under Blair. Effectively, then, the Fabian Society had been hijacked into a Blairite ‘refounding’ Labour process under Roberts’ leadership. According to Dan Hodges, citing “senior party officials,” Zentrum was “being used to effectively bypass the party.” “Someone is refounding Labour,” concluded Hodges. “But who?”.
" This is not a string of random acts. This is a coordinated attack on Corbyn’s leadership (because let’s be frank, that’s what it is), and it is coming from one source. The Fabian Society. A society who are funded by the likes of HSBC, Cuadrilla (who, oddly, Portland do PR work for) Barclays and Lloyds – while masking themselves with the veneer of advocating ” social progress […] gradualist, reformist and democratic means in a journey towards radical ends. We are a pluralist movement and create space for open debate.”
That, in itself, is debatable.
The Fabians have mobilised their assets in both the parliamentary Labour party, in the media and in the sphere of public relations, namely via Portland Communications – to inflict as much damage as possible on Corbyn
http://www.thecanary.co/2016/06/28/truth-behind-labour-coup-really-began-manufactured-exclusive/
18 July 2016 09:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
worthwile talks from Text to comments:
"Libertarian
You are correct about the Hottentots race, they were not just women, but the woman’s structure was not a thing that God should have done compared to other race women; if we were created by God.
With regard to us Europeans coming from Africa 80.000 years ago that is not correct as I have explained to Beatpoet. As a European Race we have no African DNA in our race, neither has the Neanderthal man who was in Europe a lot longer than the years you are quoting.
If you check the King James Bible, it is clear the Anglo Saxons or Caucasians were Israelites and the Hebrews and Jews were not. Sadly I think the James Bible has been pushed under the table, which is not unusual in our modern day society.
With regard to Mosley he has not been proved wrong on his views from 1939 and the early fifty’s, to which the past and present government seem to have lived by the saying that the truth hurts.
But what I don’t read on this site is any views of how we will go forward as a single nation even if we drop out of the EU that will collapse anyway. I have said all my life that we are run by financiers and under our main parties we always will.
I do my best to communicate with people by talking reality as history should be understood and indeed many races should be assessed correctly, sadly that will never happen under our controlled world that has destroyed reality. "
answer to:
"..You state, "....Europeans including Eastern European Jewish people, do not have any African DNA". What, none of them? What about Europeans who have an African ancestor or ancestors? I read somewhere that the chef, Jamie Oliver, has a Sudanese great-grandparent. Wouldn't it be reasonable to assume he has some African DNA as well as European? How many other Europeans or Eastern Europeans (Jewish or otherwise) may have an African ancestor or ancestors, no matter how far back? I also recall reading recently about a Scottish DNA study (led by an Edinburgh University professor) so I looked it up and found this on the BBC website -
"Scotland's DNA also found that more than 1% of all Scotsmen are direct descendents of the Berber and Tuareg tribesmen of the Sahara, a lineage which is around 5,600 years old."
I looked up U' negative blood and discovered that it's only found in people of African descent. So what? Given that over 1% of Scots have Berber/Tuareg descent... "
//some usual eugenics liberal talk
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2012/05/what-should-proper-conservatives-make-of-boris-johnson.html
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So, can Londoners (and I haven’t been one of those for more than a quarter of a century) counteract this by voting for Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson? Would a defeat for Mr Johnson be a blow for the forces of righteousness? Or should we just rejoice at any failure by the Supposedly Conservative and Allegedly Unionist Party?
Well, Mr Johnson is, like Mr Livingstone, an enjoyable figure. I barely know him. I’ve not spent much time with him. My world, in general, is not his. I don’t think he’s as funny as some people think he is, and can get irritated listening to besotted Tory audiences guffawing helplessly at Mr Johnson’s rather over-stretched sub-Wodehousian I Say Old Bean How Spiffing performances. And I am, I must admit, deeply, deeply jealous of the huge booster rocket given to his career by his multiple appearances on ‘Have I Got News for You’. (Yes, I was on it once, and there’s a long story, if you like, for a cold, wet winter evening, long after most of those involved are dead).
Still, I can see why, in the mental desert of their party, Tories reach out to anyone who can make a speech at all, let alone one with jokes in it.
I once debated on the same side as him at the Oxford Union, though can’t remember for the life of me what the topic was. He arrived late for the pre-debate dinner, and spent most of the remaining time before the debate scribbling notes in a state of what looked to me like some anxiety. I think, like many first-rate performers, he is extremely, needlessly nervous before he takes the stage (Harold Macmillan, one of the smoothest performers Westminster has ever seen, is said always to have been violently sick before Prime Minister’s Questions). And I was once on the opposing team in the first-ever University Challenge non-student contest -‘Broadsheets’ versus ‘Tabloids’, in which the despised ‘Tabloids’ won, mainly thanks to a storming performance from Tony Parsons, whose reaction speed made the average panther look lethargic.
"Libertarian
You are correct about the Hottentots race, they were not just women, but the woman’s structure was not a thing that God should have done compared to other race women; if we were created by God.
With regard to us Europeans coming from Africa 80.000 years ago that is not correct as I have explained to Beatpoet. As a European Race we have no African DNA in our race, neither has the Neanderthal man who was in Europe a lot longer than the years you are quoting.
If you check the King James Bible, it is clear the Anglo Saxons or Caucasians were Israelites and the Hebrews and Jews were not. Sadly I think the James Bible has been pushed under the table, which is not unusual in our modern day society.
With regard to Mosley he has not been proved wrong on his views from 1939 and the early fifty’s, to which the past and present government seem to have lived by the saying that the truth hurts.
But what I don’t read on this site is any views of how we will go forward as a single nation even if we drop out of the EU that will collapse anyway. I have said all my life that we are run by financiers and under our main parties we always will.
I do my best to communicate with people by talking reality as history should be understood and indeed many races should be assessed correctly, sadly that will never happen under our controlled world that has destroyed reality. "
answer to:
"..You state, "....Europeans including Eastern European Jewish people, do not have any African DNA". What, none of them? What about Europeans who have an African ancestor or ancestors? I read somewhere that the chef, Jamie Oliver, has a Sudanese great-grandparent. Wouldn't it be reasonable to assume he has some African DNA as well as European? How many other Europeans or Eastern Europeans (Jewish or otherwise) may have an African ancestor or ancestors, no matter how far back? I also recall reading recently about a Scottish DNA study (led by an Edinburgh University professor) so I looked it up and found this on the BBC website -
"Scotland's DNA also found that more than 1% of all Scotsmen are direct descendents of the Berber and Tuareg tribesmen of the Sahara, a lineage which is around 5,600 years old."
I looked up U' negative blood and discovered that it's only found in people of African descent. So what? Given that over 1% of Scots have Berber/Tuareg descent... "
//some usual eugenics liberal talk
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2012/05/what-should-proper-conservatives-make-of-boris-johnson.html
---
So, can Londoners (and I haven’t been one of those for more than a quarter of a century) counteract this by voting for Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson? Would a defeat for Mr Johnson be a blow for the forces of righteousness? Or should we just rejoice at any failure by the Supposedly Conservative and Allegedly Unionist Party?
Well, Mr Johnson is, like Mr Livingstone, an enjoyable figure. I barely know him. I’ve not spent much time with him. My world, in general, is not his. I don’t think he’s as funny as some people think he is, and can get irritated listening to besotted Tory audiences guffawing helplessly at Mr Johnson’s rather over-stretched sub-Wodehousian I Say Old Bean How Spiffing performances. And I am, I must admit, deeply, deeply jealous of the huge booster rocket given to his career by his multiple appearances on ‘Have I Got News for You’. (Yes, I was on it once, and there’s a long story, if you like, for a cold, wet winter evening, long after most of those involved are dead).
Still, I can see why, in the mental desert of their party, Tories reach out to anyone who can make a speech at all, let alone one with jokes in it.
I once debated on the same side as him at the Oxford Union, though can’t remember for the life of me what the topic was. He arrived late for the pre-debate dinner, and spent most of the remaining time before the debate scribbling notes in a state of what looked to me like some anxiety. I think, like many first-rate performers, he is extremely, needlessly nervous before he takes the stage (Harold Macmillan, one of the smoothest performers Westminster has ever seen, is said always to have been violently sick before Prime Minister’s Questions). And I was once on the opposing team in the first-ever University Challenge non-student contest -‘Broadsheets’ versus ‘Tabloids’, in which the despised ‘Tabloids’ won, mainly thanks to a storming performance from Tony Parsons, whose reaction speed made the average panther look lethargic.
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2012/05/what-should-proper-conservatives-make-of-boris-johnson.html
18 July 2016 09:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. R.W.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ7LzE3u7Bw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ7LzE3u7Bw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ7LzE3u7Bw
18 July 2016 09:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Spirit of ’45
" there is no eulogy to nationalised industry here. That this was no accident was made explicit in Blair’s speech to the Fabian Society on the fiftieth anniversary of 1945, in which he explained that socialism (or ‘social-ism’ as he put it) needed to be ‘liberated’ from the question of ownership and ‘economic dogma’. He also made clear that his narrative of British democratic socialism included ‘Lloyd George, Beveridge and Keynes and not just Attlee, Bevan or Crosland.’ Blair was not straightforwardly ahistorical or iconoclastic, as many have believed. Instead, he skilfully used different interpretations of the party’s and the country’s past, honouring and rewriting them at the same time."
http://nottspolitics.org/2013/03/15/tony-blairs-tribute-to-the-spirit-of-45-was-a-skillful-re-writing-of-history/
"Ken Loach’s new documentary The Spirit of ’45 is a romantic tribute to the achievements and ideals of the 1945 Labour government, with a clear political message. It cuts from an idealised social democratic nation celebrating the Festival of Britain (with no mention that within months Churchill would be back in power), straight to the dismantling of the welfare state, nationalised utilities and the ethos of community, first by Thatcher and then by Blair. Loach is famously no fan of New Labour, and recently called for a populist party to do for the Left what UKIP has done for the Right.
It is surprising then to note that Tony Blair produced his own tribute to the Spirit of ’45, in this case a national roadshow, marking the 50th anniversary of Attlee’s victory. "
" there is no eulogy to nationalised industry here. That this was no accident was made explicit in Blair’s speech to the Fabian Society on the fiftieth anniversary of 1945, in which he explained that socialism (or ‘social-ism’ as he put it) needed to be ‘liberated’ from the question of ownership and ‘economic dogma’. He also made clear that his narrative of British democratic socialism included ‘Lloyd George, Beveridge and Keynes and not just Attlee, Bevan or Crosland.’ Blair was not straightforwardly ahistorical or iconoclastic, as many have believed. Instead, he skilfully used different interpretations of the party’s and the country’s past, honouring and rewriting them at the same time."
http://nottspolitics.org/2013/03/15/tony-blairs-tribute-to-the-spirit-of-45-was-a-skillful-re-writing-of-history/
"Ken Loach’s new documentary The Spirit of ’45 is a romantic tribute to the achievements and ideals of the 1945 Labour government, with a clear political message. It cuts from an idealised social democratic nation celebrating the Festival of Britain (with no mention that within months Churchill would be back in power), straight to the dismantling of the welfare state, nationalised utilities and the ethos of community, first by Thatcher and then by Blair. Loach is famously no fan of New Labour, and recently called for a populist party to do for the Left what UKIP has done for the Right.
It is surprising then to note that Tony Blair produced his own tribute to the Spirit of ’45, in this case a national roadshow, marking the 50th anniversary of Attlee’s victory. "
18 July 2016 09:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
future 3
"The Equality Trust (founded by Wilkinson along with Bill Kerry and The Spirit Level co-author Kate Pickett) started out quite similarly to Transition, taking a position of being very non-party political, very under the radar. But ‘The Convenient Truth’ is published with the Fabian Society. Does that represent a change in your approach?
The Equality Trust has recently become a charity and the director, I think, is very concerned to make sure he keeps absolutely to the letter the rules for being a charity. But my reason for publishing ‘A Convenient Truth’ with the Fabian Society is I thought that was the best way of getting it into the Labour Party. Fabians certainly used to be influential in the Labour Party "
https://transitionnetwork.org/blogs/rob-hopkins/2015-09/richard-wilkinson-fairness-and-equality
"The Equality Trust (founded by Wilkinson along with Bill Kerry and The Spirit Level co-author Kate Pickett) started out quite similarly to Transition, taking a position of being very non-party political, very under the radar. But ‘The Convenient Truth’ is published with the Fabian Society. Does that represent a change in your approach?
The Equality Trust has recently become a charity and the director, I think, is very concerned to make sure he keeps absolutely to the letter the rules for being a charity. But my reason for publishing ‘A Convenient Truth’ with the Fabian Society is I thought that was the best way of getting it into the Labour Party. Fabians certainly used to be influential in the Labour Party "
https://transitionnetwork.org/blogs/rob-hopkins/2015-09/richard-wilkinson-fairness-and-equality
https://transitionnetwork.org/blogs/rob-hopkins/2015-09/richard-wilkinson-fairness-and-equality
18 July 2016 09:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
side future note 2 //to look in who rules these tops "
List of accredited London employers
There are now 216 London employerrs accredited by the Living Wage Foundation
. Nationally - the scheme saw a 450% increase in sign-ups in the last 12 months.
Working Families
Fabian Society
Chartered Society of Physiotherapy
Society and College of Radiographers
Association of Teachers and Lecturers
Cartias Social Action Network (CSAN)
Fellowes Associates
Matrix Chambers
Middlesex University Students' Union
East London Community Land Trust
London Housing Trust
Skills Enterprise
Pakeman Primary School
London Legacy Development Corporation
Richard Cloudesley School
Hamilton Brown
St Paul's Cathedral
ING Bank
Islington CCG
People's Health Trust
Clifford Chance
Allen & Overy LLP
Herbert Smith LLP
Slaughter and May
Holman Fenwick Willan LLP
Olswang
Kayleigh Plant Hire
O'Donovan Waste Disposal Ltd
CPAG
Crisis UK
Hermes Fund Managers
IPPR
Linklaters
London Business School
Resolution Foundation
Trust For London
UNICEF
Penrose Care
London Borough of Camden
Community Links Trust
Intentionality Community Interest Company
Catholic Trust for England and Wales
CDF - Community Development Foundation
Schools Offices Services
CCLA Investment Management
Innovision Events Ltd
Dot Dot Dot Property Ltd
Syd Bishop & Sons (Demolition) Ltd
London Community Foundation
LSE Student Union
Barts and the Royal London
Greater London Authority (GLA)
London Borough of Islington
London Borough of Lewisham
Transport for London
Queen Mary UoL
Barclays Bank PLC
Deloitte
KPMG
Lush
PwC
Save the Children
Mishcon de Reya
Lewis Silkin
Vibrance
Cripplegate Foundation
Disability Action in Islington
G. Baldwin & Co Ltd
Association of Teachers and Lecturers
Maudsley Learning
Insight Public Affairs
St John's Highbury Vale C of E Primary
Vauxhall One
ELATT
Cartias Social Action Network (CSAN)
National Housing Federation
New Economics Foundation
The Campaign Company
Contextual Theology Centre
Nanny Network
iKhofi Ltd
Cambridge House & Talbot London Bootstrap Company Ltd
West End in Schools / Blue Box Entertainment Limited
Middlesex University Students' Union
East London Community Land Trust
Matrix Chambers
London Housing Trust
London Borough Lambeth
Tower Hamlets Homes
Casual Films
Fellowes Associates
Bethnal Green Academy
Religious Society of Friends (Quakers in Britain)
Islington Law Centre
Unison
Kudox Limited
Living Space Project (previously called Capacity Global)
Wixted & Co
Catholic Education Service (CES)
Centre for Strategy and Communication Ltd (The Centre)
Greenwich Action for Voluntary Service (GAVS)
Ivy House Community Pub Limited
SCOR
Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons
Live Vision Ltd
Musicians' Union
Cedar Communications Limited
Rathbone Brothers Plc
Fabian Society
Skoob Books
Prior Weston Primary School & Children's Centre London Central Finance Board of the Methodist Church
BCS (Electrical and Building) Ltd
Resolution Operations LLP
St James's Church Piccadilly
ICAEW
Lloyd's of London
Voluntary Action Islington
London Borough Southwark
Joiner's Arms Shoreditch
Kingsmith Care Ltd
Citizens UK
Royal College of Midwives
Mark Humphries Legal
National Literacy Trust
Samuel Rhodes School
Match Solicitors
London Borough of Hounslow
Central Hall Westminster
Twist London Ltd
UCL Student Union
St Mary's University College
Barking & Dagenham Council for Voluntary Service
First Rung Ltd
Islington & Shoreditch Housing Association
Dyslexia Action
Mayer Brown
Accenture
Merton Voluntary Service Council
Fentons Solicitors
Outer Temple Chambers
The Boston Consulting Group UK LLP
Blackstone Chambers Ltd
The Truscott Arms
Hope Worldwide
Legal & General
Royal Borough of Greenwich
FormFormForm Ltd
Share Action
3i Group
London Borough of Brent
MSH Health & Wellbeing Community Interest Company
Table Talk and Blue Strawberry (MJT Holdings Limited)
Advantage Accreditation Limited
Ernst & Young LLP
National Portrait Gallery
Faucet Inn Limited
Global Markets Consultants
Aviva Plc
Aquaterra
Resource for London
The Boxing Academy
London Funders
Norton Rose Fulbright LLP
Sarasin
Action Aid
Age UK Camden
Amnesty International (UK)
CAFOD
Timewise Foundation (previously named 'Women Like
Us')
Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children NHS
Foundation Trust
ACEVO
NCVO
The Young Foundation
UnLtd*
11KBW
Age UK Kensington and Chelsea
Bromley-by-Bow Centre
CIFAS
LASA
LVSC London Poplar Harca
Toynbee Hall
London Borough of Ealing
London Borough of Enfield
St Charles Sixth Form College
London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine
University of East London
Bates Wells Braithwaite
JP Morgan
White & Case LLP
Positive Parenting and Children (Positive Partners Ltd)
Curzon Central
Mind in Camden
Wenlake Management Ltd
The Green Party
The London School of Economics and Political Science
The Hurley Group
FDA Union
Community Union
Devereux Chambers
Labour Party
The Law Society
TUC
Yerbury Primary School
Grafton Primary School
Pooles Park Primary School
Organise Consulting
Finchley Reform Synagogue
Global Payments
The Pentecostal Credit Union Ltd
Pearson Plc
Hogarth Architects
Bindmans LLP
Quaker Service
Religious Society of Friends (Quakers in Britain) //ok, that nice...
List of accredited London employers
There are now 216 London employerrs accredited by the Living Wage Foundation
. Nationally - the scheme saw a 450% increase in sign-ups in the last 12 months.
Working Families
Fabian Society
Chartered Society of Physiotherapy
Society and College of Radiographers
Association of Teachers and Lecturers
Cartias Social Action Network (CSAN)
Fellowes Associates
Matrix Chambers
Middlesex University Students' Union
East London Community Land Trust
London Housing Trust
Skills Enterprise
Pakeman Primary School
London Legacy Development Corporation
Richard Cloudesley School
Hamilton Brown
St Paul's Cathedral
ING Bank
Islington CCG
People's Health Trust
Clifford Chance
Allen & Overy LLP
Herbert Smith LLP
Slaughter and May
Holman Fenwick Willan LLP
Olswang
Kayleigh Plant Hire
O'Donovan Waste Disposal Ltd
CPAG
Crisis UK
Hermes Fund Managers
IPPR
Linklaters
London Business School
Resolution Foundation
Trust For London
UNICEF
Penrose Care
London Borough of Camden
Community Links Trust
Intentionality Community Interest Company
Catholic Trust for England and Wales
CDF - Community Development Foundation
Schools Offices Services
CCLA Investment Management
Innovision Events Ltd
Dot Dot Dot Property Ltd
Syd Bishop & Sons (Demolition) Ltd
London Community Foundation
LSE Student Union
Barts and the Royal London
Greater London Authority (GLA)
London Borough of Islington
London Borough of Lewisham
Transport for London
Queen Mary UoL
Barclays Bank PLC
Deloitte
KPMG
Lush
PwC
Save the Children
Mishcon de Reya
Lewis Silkin
Vibrance
Cripplegate Foundation
Disability Action in Islington
G. Baldwin & Co Ltd
Association of Teachers and Lecturers
Maudsley Learning
Insight Public Affairs
St John's Highbury Vale C of E Primary
Vauxhall One
ELATT
Cartias Social Action Network (CSAN)
National Housing Federation
New Economics Foundation
The Campaign Company
Contextual Theology Centre
Nanny Network
iKhofi Ltd
Cambridge House & Talbot London Bootstrap Company Ltd
West End in Schools / Blue Box Entertainment Limited
Middlesex University Students' Union
East London Community Land Trust
Matrix Chambers
London Housing Trust
London Borough Lambeth
Tower Hamlets Homes
Casual Films
Fellowes Associates
Bethnal Green Academy
Religious Society of Friends (Quakers in Britain)
Islington Law Centre
Unison
Kudox Limited
Living Space Project (previously called Capacity Global)
Wixted & Co
Catholic Education Service (CES)
Centre for Strategy and Communication Ltd (The Centre)
Greenwich Action for Voluntary Service (GAVS)
Ivy House Community Pub Limited
SCOR
Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons
Live Vision Ltd
Musicians' Union
Cedar Communications Limited
Rathbone Brothers Plc
Fabian Society
Skoob Books
Prior Weston Primary School & Children's Centre London Central Finance Board of the Methodist Church
BCS (Electrical and Building) Ltd
Resolution Operations LLP
St James's Church Piccadilly
ICAEW
Lloyd's of London
Voluntary Action Islington
London Borough Southwark
Joiner's Arms Shoreditch
Kingsmith Care Ltd
Citizens UK
Royal College of Midwives
Mark Humphries Legal
National Literacy Trust
Samuel Rhodes School
Match Solicitors
London Borough of Hounslow
Central Hall Westminster
Twist London Ltd
UCL Student Union
St Mary's University College
Barking & Dagenham Council for Voluntary Service
First Rung Ltd
Islington & Shoreditch Housing Association
Dyslexia Action
Mayer Brown
Accenture
Merton Voluntary Service Council
Fentons Solicitors
Outer Temple Chambers
The Boston Consulting Group UK LLP
Blackstone Chambers Ltd
The Truscott Arms
Hope Worldwide
Legal & General
Royal Borough of Greenwich
FormFormForm Ltd
Share Action
3i Group
London Borough of Brent
MSH Health & Wellbeing Community Interest Company
Table Talk and Blue Strawberry (MJT Holdings Limited)
Advantage Accreditation Limited
Ernst & Young LLP
National Portrait Gallery
Faucet Inn Limited
Global Markets Consultants
Aviva Plc
Aquaterra
Resource for London
The Boxing Academy
London Funders
Norton Rose Fulbright LLP
Sarasin
Action Aid
Age UK Camden
Amnesty International (UK)
CAFOD
Timewise Foundation (previously named 'Women Like
Us')
Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children NHS
Foundation Trust
ACEVO
NCVO
The Young Foundation
UnLtd*
11KBW
Age UK Kensington and Chelsea
Bromley-by-Bow Centre
CIFAS
LASA
LVSC London Poplar Harca
Toynbee Hall
London Borough of Ealing
London Borough of Enfield
St Charles Sixth Form College
London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine
University of East London
Bates Wells Braithwaite
JP Morgan
White & Case LLP
Positive Parenting and Children (Positive Partners Ltd)
Curzon Central
Mind in Camden
Wenlake Management Ltd
The Green Party
The London School of Economics and Political Science
The Hurley Group
FDA Union
Community Union
Devereux Chambers
Labour Party
The Law Society
TUC
Yerbury Primary School
Grafton Primary School
Pooles Park Primary School
Organise Consulting
Finchley Reform Synagogue
Global Payments
The Pentecostal Credit Union Ltd
Pearson Plc
Hogarth Architects
Bindmans LLP
Quaker Service
Religious Society of Friends (Quakers in Britain) //ok, that nice...
18 July 2016 09:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
side story:
"Professor Michael Keating is currently writing a paper for The Constitution Society on the important topic of Scotland’s future after the independence referendum in 2014. We will be launching his piece along with responses from CentreForum, the Fabian Society and ResPublica at the party conferences."
http://www.consoc.org.uk/tag/scottish-referendum/
"Professor Michael Keating is currently writing a paper for The Constitution Society on the important topic of Scotland’s future after the independence referendum in 2014. We will be launching his piece along with responses from CentreForum, the Fabian Society and ResPublica at the party conferences."
http://www.consoc.org.uk/tag/scottish-referendum/
http://www.consoc.org.uk/tag/scottish-referendum/
18 July 2016 09:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Comments:
" ‘The moral roots of liberals and conservatives’ https://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind?language=en
But people fail to see, that more then 40% (or perhaps more then 80 really?) makeup, of "the conservatives-rightSide-businesminded IS THE Liberals... invented by them and run by them and doing what "Liberals" needs... the ones , these kind of liberals who run forced sterilization programs on Peru's people for "economic reasons, because they are poor"
" ‘The moral roots of liberals and conservatives’ https://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind?language=en
But people fail to see, that more then 40% (or perhaps more then 80 really?) makeup, of "the conservatives-rightSide-businesminded IS THE Liberals... invented by them and run by them and doing what "Liberals" needs... the ones , these kind of liberals who run forced sterilization programs on Peru's people for "economic reasons, because they are poor"
https://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind?language=en
18 July 2016 09:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Boris Johnson, Douglas Carswell and other Vote Leave leaders are libertarian or even globalist in instinct. As negotiations move forward, this freedom-oriented leadership will be inclined to cut deals with Europe on migration in order to secure Britain’s access to the European market. While this ‘soft Brexit’ pose will irritate the authoritarian majority among Leavers, Johnson’s credibility as the man who led Britain out gives him the latitude to make compromises. The history of right-wing populism from the southern US to Northern Ireland is one of populist leaders riding their base to power but rapidly moderating once in office. Expect a fuzzy divorce, not a clean break."
http://www.fabians.org.uk/brexit-voters-not-the-left-behind/
http://www.fabians.org.uk/brexit-voters-not-the-left-behind/
http://www.fabians.org.uk/brexit-voters-not-the-left-behind/
18 July 2016 09:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The friend-to-friend structure of the RetroShare network makes it difficult to intrude and hardly possible to monitor from an external point of view.[citation needed] The degree of anonymity may be improved further by deactivating the DHT and IP/certificate exchange services, making the RetroShare network a real Darknet.Friends of friends may not connect directly with each other; however, the possibility exists of anonymously sharing files with friends of friends, if enabled by the user. Search, access, and both uploading and downloading of these files is made by "routing" through a series of friends. This means that communications between the source of data (the uploader) and the destination of the data (the downloader) is indirect through mutual friends. Although the intermediary friends cannot determine the original source or ultimate destination, they can see their very next links in the communication chain (their friends). Since the data stream is encrypted, only original source and ultimate destination are able to see what data is transferred.
16 July 2016 21:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
If you just want to test RetroShare, some users have developed public "chatservers". Warning: Adding random people undermines RetroShare's friend-to-friend-principle and you might add people, you'd rather don't want to. So do it at your own risk.
If you enter your key there and follow the instructions, the chatserver will add you as friend. The chatserver is always subscribed to a few chatlobbys, and thus you'll be able to see them. You can join those lobbys, chat with other newbies and users and get some other friends there. The chatserver will remove you as friend, if 50 other people have added their key after you did. If the chatserver is your only friend, you won't be able to download anything or see forums or channels.
http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#I_want_to_test_RetroShare.2C_but_don.27t_have_any_real_life_friends_using_it
There are some chatservers, which can be found here:
For RetroShare v0.6+:
http://retrochat.piratenpartei.at/
http://107.150.3.74/w2c/gxs/ (USA)
For RetroShare v0.5 only:
http://retrosharechatserver.no-ip.org/w2c
If you enter your key there and follow the instructions, the chatserver will add you as friend. The chatserver is always subscribed to a few chatlobbys, and thus you'll be able to see them. You can join those lobbys, chat with other newbies and users and get some other friends there. The chatserver will remove you as friend, if 50 other people have added their key after you did. If the chatserver is your only friend, you won't be able to download anything or see forums or channels.
http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#I_want_to_test_RetroShare.2C_but_don.27t_have_any_real_life_friends_using_it
There are some chatservers, which can be found here:
For RetroShare v0.6+:
http://retrochat.piratenpartei.at/
http://107.150.3.74/w2c/gxs/ (USA)
For RetroShare v0.5 only:
http://retrosharechatserver.no-ip.org/w2c
http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#I_want_to_test_RetroShare.2C_but_don.27t_have_any_real_life_friends_using_it
16 July 2016 19:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Why_should_I_maintain_another_IM-Network.2C_when_I.27m_barely_able_to_keep_my_ICQ.2FMSN.2FGTalk_contacts_in_sync.3F
http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Why_should_I_maintain_another_IM-Network.2C_when_I.27m_barely_able_to_keep_my_ICQ.2FMSN.2FGTalk_contacts_in_sync.3F
16 July 2016 19:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But still.. server v5 and v6 can not communicate with each other...
Network topology: decentralized Friend to Friend network (F2F)
Transport: IPv4 TCP+UDP, Tor
UPnP / NAT-PMP port forwarding support
Distributed hash table to locate friends
Optionally can use dynamic DNS
Connect to friends behind NAT with UDP
Transport encryption with TLS (OpenSSL)
Authentication with PGP keys
Services: chat, VoIP with video, multi-user chat, file search/file sharing, forums, link sharing, Retroshare mail
Extensible through plugins
http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_I_get_a_RetroShare_Certificate
Network topology: decentralized Friend to Friend network (F2F)
Transport: IPv4 TCP+UDP, Tor
UPnP / NAT-PMP port forwarding support
Distributed hash table to locate friends
Optionally can use dynamic DNS
Connect to friends behind NAT with UDP
Transport encryption with TLS (OpenSSL)
Authentication with PGP keys
Services: chat, VoIP with video, multi-user chat, file search/file sharing, forums, link sharing, Retroshare mail
Extensible through plugins
http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_I_get_a_RetroShare_Certificate
http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_I_get_a_RetroShare_Certificate
16 July 2016 19:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Me to : )
16 July 2016 19:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(homne)
16 July 2016 18:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid ilmselt jääb püsima
16 July 2016 18:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ning need asjad mida varjata pole vaja.. eks neist saab ka detailsema jutu kirjutatud... mida veel keegi maamaali ei pruugiu teada.. sest ikka ega midagi varjata sellel ajastul pole, kus homme võib juba läinud olla
16 July 2016 18:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mis on muidugi hea, sest inimestel kellel sisevaade on asjadest kuidas nad siis toimisid, saab aru ka praegustest maailma vadetest kenasti mitmes mastaabis
16 July 2016 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on Prestige Model United Nations's photo.
UN and Pnetagrams do not really gon one i, the fivestars
16 July 2016 04:36
Margus Meigo commented on Phil Smith's post.
Good news!
16 July 2016 04:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Коммунистическая партия Советского Союза
http://etv.err.ee/v/eesti/39a75c89-9b6d-46ad-a5e4-17b682d51727/siim-kallas-mul-pole-midagi-varjata#comments
http://etv.err.ee/v/eesti/39a75c89-9b6d-46ad-a5e4-17b682d51727/siim-kallas-mul-pole-midagi-varjata#comments
http://etv.err.ee/v/eesti/39a75c89-9b6d-46ad-a5e4-17b682d51727/siim-kallas-mul-pole-midagi-varjata#comments
15 July 2016 22:08
Margus Meigo commented on Jolina Marukot At Juut Salonspa's photo.
#Juut is a #Jew in Estonian : )
15 July 2016 20:21
Margus Meigo commented on Alix Kendall's photo.
#Juut is a #Jew in Estonian : )
15 July 2016 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on Juut Salon Spa's photo.
#Juut is a #Jew in Estonian : )
15 July 2016 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on Alix Kendall's post.
#Juut is a #Jew in Estonian : )
15 July 2016 20:19
Margus Meigo commented on Audrey's photo.
#Juut is a #Jew in Estonian : )
15 July 2016 20:19
Margus Meigo commented on Michaela Larson at Juut Salon Spa Edina's photo.
#Juut is a #Jew in Estonian : )
15 July 2016 20:19
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
:D
15 July 2016 20:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
heli lugu selle juurde, miks on ebanormaalne oma rõivast raisata, hiljem
kui jääb alles
kui jääb alles
12 July 2016 00:53
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Uustal's comment.
see ikka näitab, et meeled pole igavuses, vaid mitme hea eesmärgi suunas
11 July 2016 17:37
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Uustal's photo.
Siit juba tuleb midagi
11 July 2016 17:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
selle laulu video eest, üksi , ilma helita juba.. asi väärt
et kuidas kobe tsik ei lase ennast segada kuigi tundus olema keegi kelle eest kaitsta vaja... võtab veel rahus oma paberi..
..sai ju sellepärast poodi tuldud, ei hakka siis tyhjal zombi acopolytal seda segama
et kuidas kobe tsik ei lase ennast segada kuigi tundus olema keegi kelle eest kaitsta vaja... võtab veel rahus oma paberi..
..sai ju sellepärast poodi tuldud, ei hakka siis tyhjal zombi acopolytal seda segama
11 July 2016 05:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The grim reaper played guitar
His bony fingers cold and stiff
The sonic thunder froze my heart
As he cranked out the riff
Then his song was over
And he asked me not to lie
I felt a bit uneasy
But I dared to criticize
I told him, "Man, the riff is a killer
But the rest is a throw-away"
His face looked disappointed
But he said, "Ah, it's okay"
I asked him, has he shown
The devil what he's got
"He's written hits
But lately he has not"
So the devil's out of touch
And he cannot smell a hit
"Cuz he has lost his mind
With all that hip-hop shit"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr9AattFkqo
"I met Mr. Death this morning
He offered me a ride
I said I think I'm not quite ready yet
To travel by your side
"Practice what you preach"
Then said the count of shadowlands..."
// so make sure what you preach..
"..We must have crashed right off the road
And Death could barely speak
He said, "Listen, you gotta take my place
I'm leaving office soon"
I said, "I'm sorry dude, I'm kinda busy
But tell you what: I'll take the tune"
And it goes like this...
His bony fingers cold and stiff
The sonic thunder froze my heart
As he cranked out the riff
Then his song was over
And he asked me not to lie
I felt a bit uneasy
But I dared to criticize
I told him, "Man, the riff is a killer
But the rest is a throw-away"
His face looked disappointed
But he said, "Ah, it's okay"
I asked him, has he shown
The devil what he's got
"He's written hits
But lately he has not"
So the devil's out of touch
And he cannot smell a hit
"Cuz he has lost his mind
With all that hip-hop shit"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr9AattFkqo
"I met Mr. Death this morning
He offered me a ride
I said I think I'm not quite ready yet
To travel by your side
"Practice what you preach"
Then said the count of shadowlands..."
// so make sure what you preach..
"..We must have crashed right off the road
And Death could barely speak
He said, "Listen, you gotta take my place
I'm leaving office soon"
I said, "I'm sorry dude, I'm kinda busy
But tell you what: I'll take the tune"
And it goes like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr9AattFkqo
11 July 2016 05:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so what a f is w with you p
11 July 2016 05:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"
The dopamine decrease is because transporters knock out the dopamine
The transporters put the dopamine back in the area in your brain
Where it is kept until your next happy event
Cocaine works by keeping the transporters from mopping up the dopamine
By keeping the transporters from locking up the dopamine"
-
"While the dopamine stays free
You have a feeling of great happiness or well-being
The first time you use cocaine
You will usually feel a great amount of excitement and joy
If you use cocaine a second time, you will probably not have the same effect
The high feeling may not be as strong and may not feel as great "
--
Cocaine abuse is when ongoing cocaine use leads to problems being around others
-
//After a time
http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/combichrist/whatthefuckiswrongwithyoupeople.html#15
strange ow more angry and deep metal non metal people can do at times
The dopamine decrease is because transporters knock out the dopamine
The transporters put the dopamine back in the area in your brain
Where it is kept until your next happy event
Cocaine works by keeping the transporters from mopping up the dopamine
By keeping the transporters from locking up the dopamine"
-
"While the dopamine stays free
You have a feeling of great happiness or well-being
The first time you use cocaine
You will usually feel a great amount of excitement and joy
If you use cocaine a second time, you will probably not have the same effect
The high feeling may not be as strong and may not feel as great "
--
Cocaine abuse is when ongoing cocaine use leads to problems being around others
-
//After a time
http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/combichrist/whatthefuckiswrongwithyoupeople.html#15
strange ow more angry and deep metal non metal people can do at times
http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/combichrist/whatthefuckiswrongwithyoupeople.html#15
11 July 2016 05:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#
"Mental cancer hijacks your brain
Denying the reality you created for yourself
-
Silent words from a bleeding mouth
Swallows pride with a swollen tongue
-
Self medicating, craving punishment
Blaming myself for a world on fire
//but yea...
"No more shame, no more pity
No more
//when,
We rise from the ashes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8pBe1Zbd3Y
" Iron boots, we're walking tall
With pride we'll walk all over you
Steel grip, we'll hold you down
On a leash, we're coming through
Metal teeth, a diamond smile
Mechanical jaws, a two ton bite
With winter frost, an atomic pile
We stand the ground where the big dog's fight
Divine inferno, hell on ice
Heaven's burning, sacrifice
Divine inferno, hell on ice
Heaven's burning, sacrifice
Your God sent us to destroy
Your God sent us to destroy
Your God sent us to destroy
Your God sent us to destroy
You !!!
-
Nuclear war, behind glass walls
We long for the storm, we stray from our path
Feel the walls, closing in
Chasing our trails, we're feeding our wrath
Metal teeth, a diamond smile
Mechanical jaws, a two ton bite
With winter frost, an atomic pile
We stand the ground where the big dog's fight
Divine inferno, hell on ice
Heaven's burning, sacrifice
Divine inferno, hell on ice
Heaven's burning, sacrifice
Your God sent us to destroy
Your God sent us to destroy
Your God sent us to destroy
Your God sent us to destroy
You
You
You
-
enough said , heavens workers
"Mental cancer hijacks your brain
Denying the reality you created for yourself
-
Silent words from a bleeding mouth
Swallows pride with a swollen tongue
-
Self medicating, craving punishment
Blaming myself for a world on fire
//but yea...
"No more shame, no more pity
No more
//when,
We rise from the ashes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8pBe1Zbd3Y
" Iron boots, we're walking tall
With pride we'll walk all over you
Steel grip, we'll hold you down
On a leash, we're coming through
Metal teeth, a diamond smile
Mechanical jaws, a two ton bite
With winter frost, an atomic pile
We stand the ground where the big dog's fight
Divine inferno, hell on ice
Heaven's burning, sacrifice
Divine inferno, hell on ice
Heaven's burning, sacrifice
Your God sent us to destroy
Your God sent us to destroy
Your God sent us to destroy
Your God sent us to destroy
You !!!
-
Nuclear war, behind glass walls
We long for the storm, we stray from our path
Feel the walls, closing in
Chasing our trails, we're feeding our wrath
Metal teeth, a diamond smile
Mechanical jaws, a two ton bite
With winter frost, an atomic pile
We stand the ground where the big dog's fight
Divine inferno, hell on ice
Heaven's burning, sacrifice
Divine inferno, hell on ice
Heaven's burning, sacrifice
Your God sent us to destroy
Your God sent us to destroy
Your God sent us to destroy
Your God sent us to destroy
You
You
You
-
enough said , heavens workers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8pBe1Zbd3Y
11 July 2016 05:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
If ya wanna do electronic, and keep it real still, then still, have to take tips from these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_psAstJutdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_psAstJutdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_psAstJutdc
11 July 2016 05:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but here is still justifiable explenation of your deeds and forgive letter,
if we take this in to account, if You that what You see and spectrum to able to see, between
"We fight against everything and everyone
With every war we tried to make our kingdom come"
// (...they fight against everyone by using anyone )
// so they say..
"Everyday we lose ourselves more and more
But still we pray for someone to save our souls"
// that is good
" We see the sorrow and the pain
We tried our best to save the world
But everyday is still the same
All the violence all the blood and every tear
Fill your minds more and more with hate and fear "
With every war we tried to make our kingdom come .:"
//maybe that was the problem, gotta cool down on that Kingdom thing outside your zoo Vamps, seriously, for this New world, there is some borders that will be moved and this kind of private fiestas can only keep as cultural heritage on protected arias with volunteers mostly, up to the next regulation when others have made their contributions, that might not come newer jet
but just growing large does not help, if your word is tried up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0WwF_bVhZU
and You wishes will be fulfilled before anyone else who asks
how ever ironic that might have been, if you have not done it jet, You will be taken in to account before anyone who ever saint if You asked before full soul saving, or that what is need
if we take this in to account, if You that what You see and spectrum to able to see, between
"We fight against everything and everyone
With every war we tried to make our kingdom come"
// (...they fight against everyone by using anyone )
// so they say..
"Everyday we lose ourselves more and more
But still we pray for someone to save our souls"
// that is good
" We see the sorrow and the pain
We tried our best to save the world
But everyday is still the same
All the violence all the blood and every tear
Fill your minds more and more with hate and fear "
With every war we tried to make our kingdom come .:"
//maybe that was the problem, gotta cool down on that Kingdom thing outside your zoo Vamps, seriously, for this New world, there is some borders that will be moved and this kind of private fiestas can only keep as cultural heritage on protected arias with volunteers mostly, up to the next regulation when others have made their contributions, that might not come newer jet
but just growing large does not help, if your word is tried up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0WwF_bVhZU
and You wishes will be fulfilled before anyone else who asks
how ever ironic that might have been, if you have not done it jet, You will be taken in to account before anyone who ever saint if You asked before full soul saving, or that what is need
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0WwF_bVhZU
11 July 2016 05:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
pentagram bitches and Vamps also make a video, but they also have turned gay, https://youtu.be/w1G-9WUgptY?t=193 with this euro 80's pop, from what time that become fanciable ..
11 July 2016 04:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
loserSSs
11 July 2016 04:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
this we can call already, as we feel it, they really did enjoy this music making,
Lyric Wisdom also, while we @ it, for the losers who again think they was about joining with a Loser :
" Fetid simulation
Of this wretched congregation
Disciples of the fallen and the heretic will rise
Narcissistic nation
Severed tongues of blind dictation
The serpent spoke this unto me through gilded light and lunacy
Taste the fury
That feed the devils inside
Fueled by torment,
Sin, sex, sickness and pride
Parasite submission
Parasitic condition
Parasite slave culture
Parasite it's over
Lyric Wisdom also, while we @ it, for the losers who again think they was about joining with a Loser :
" Fetid simulation
Of this wretched congregation
Disciples of the fallen and the heretic will rise
Narcissistic nation
Severed tongues of blind dictation
The serpent spoke this unto me through gilded light and lunacy
Taste the fury
That feed the devils inside
Fueled by torment,
Sin, sex, sickness and pride
Parasite submission
Parasitic condition
Parasite slave culture
Parasite it's over
11 July 2016 04:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Why thye have this gay dude in there,
Oh thatswhy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52xoRLh2dWw
Oh thatswhy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52xoRLh2dWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52xoRLh2dWw
11 July 2016 04:42
Margus Meigo commented on Ralph Abraham's post.
if am able to imagine this possibility
11 July 2016 04:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alqGc26jyH0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alqGc26jyH0
11 July 2016 04:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
How much more HardRock ya can go then making bitch out a ..,"Devil Is A Loser"
You wanted power and you begged for fame you wanted everything the easy way
You wanted gain without pain now your bill's in the mail
You got stronger but your mind got weak you made a promise you couldn't keep
You had it all you lost more it's all there in the fee
Via hell incorporated regeneration first you love it then you hate it you're such a saint
And now you're never gonna make it bad situation get on get on down there's hell to pay
'cause the devil is a loser and he's my bitch for better or for worse and you don't care which
The devil is a loser and he's my bitch runnin' into trouble you skitch he's my bitch ha ha ha ha ha
You wanted riches and license to kill you got poverty and then you got ill
You got poor and you lost your will all your dreams unfulfilled
Wow I get my kicks when you blow your fuse no one got killed but that's no excuse
Hands up I let you know when it's done I've got the only gun
Via hell incorporated regeneration
first you love it then you hate it you're such a saint
And now you're never gonna make it
bad situation get on get on down there's hell to pay
'cause the devil is a loser and he's my bitch for better or for worse and you don't care which
'cause the devil is a loser and he's my bitch runnin' into trouble you skitch
And there were no refunds just failing guarantees confess your sins son said the preacher on tv
You got yourself some greasepaint ooh set of white and black
Wow all you got was laughter and Gene Simmons on your back
Hmm 'cause devil is a loser and he's my bitch for better or for worse and you don't care which
'cause the devil is a loser and he's my bitch runnin' into trouble you skitch he's my bitch
'cause devil is a loser and he's my bitch for better or for worse and you don't care which
'cause the devil is a loser and he's my bitch runnin' into trouble you skitch
Yeah runnin' into trouble you stich aah runnin' into trouble you stich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZjZoJFTOoc
You wanted power and you begged for fame you wanted everything the easy way
You wanted gain without pain now your bill's in the mail
You got stronger but your mind got weak you made a promise you couldn't keep
You had it all you lost more it's all there in the fee
Via hell incorporated regeneration first you love it then you hate it you're such a saint
And now you're never gonna make it bad situation get on get on down there's hell to pay
'cause the devil is a loser and he's my bitch for better or for worse and you don't care which
The devil is a loser and he's my bitch runnin' into trouble you skitch he's my bitch ha ha ha ha ha
You wanted riches and license to kill you got poverty and then you got ill
You got poor and you lost your will all your dreams unfulfilled
Wow I get my kicks when you blow your fuse no one got killed but that's no excuse
Hands up I let you know when it's done I've got the only gun
Via hell incorporated regeneration
first you love it then you hate it you're such a saint
And now you're never gonna make it
bad situation get on get on down there's hell to pay
'cause the devil is a loser and he's my bitch for better or for worse and you don't care which
'cause the devil is a loser and he's my bitch runnin' into trouble you skitch
And there were no refunds just failing guarantees confess your sins son said the preacher on tv
You got yourself some greasepaint ooh set of white and black
Wow all you got was laughter and Gene Simmons on your back
Hmm 'cause devil is a loser and he's my bitch for better or for worse and you don't care which
'cause the devil is a loser and he's my bitch runnin' into trouble you skitch he's my bitch
'cause devil is a loser and he's my bitch for better or for worse and you don't care which
'cause the devil is a loser and he's my bitch runnin' into trouble you skitch
Yeah runnin' into trouble you stich aah runnin' into trouble you stich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZjZoJFTOoc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZjZoJFTOoc
11 July 2016 04:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga sinna jõuda saab ka enamasti aint hea kaudu
10 July 2016 17:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sobib eelmise saate osas kokku, kus inimesed Aasia õpetustes mis meieni jõuavad on, et "kõrgeim saavutus on bliss" .. aga meie, Eesti ja tundub ka Juudi kultuuri jaoks, on Bliss elementaarne miinimum standard, et heaolu on selleks loodud, et saaks midagi suremat ja head tegema hakata, mitte aga pole point, et lihtsalt endal hea olla oleks...
Me pole orja liinust ega nautimis ega DNA stokopile.. vaid aktiivne töötav osa jumala plaanist, kes kõikide teiste kultuuride parimat kasutab seleks, et seda omavahel toimima panna, parima saavutamiseks, et saaks hakata head tegema
Me pole orja liinust ega nautimis ega DNA stokopile.. vaid aktiivne töötav osa jumala plaanist, kes kõikide teiste kultuuride parimat kasutab seleks, et seda omavahel toimima panna, parima saavutamiseks, et saaks hakata head tegema
10 July 2016 17:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
...
https://youtu.be/QrX6W01J4jo?t=210 minut kolmest..
https://youtu.be/QrX6W01J4jo?t=210 minut kolmest..
https://youtu.be/QrX6W01J4jo?t=210
10 July 2016 16:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui me kujutame ette Paradiisi, sis me näeme Savanni
"Nagu Jehoovakate ajakirja kaanepeal?"
"Jah, täpselt"
"Nagu Jehoovakate ajakirja kaanepeal?"
"Jah, täpselt"
10 July 2016 12:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Huvitav kuidas nad saatesse pannud kokku meeltetunnetuste vastased ja siis sujuvalt suunavad juttu vastavalt kuulaja mõistlikusele..
Nagu küsimuse osas "kuidas puisniidud enne inimese niitmist olid.."
Nagu küsimuse osas "kuidas puisniidud enne inimese niitmist olid.."
10 July 2016 12:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aa, et kui õltsi koos jooma ei lähe siis ikka puht veidrik
9 July 2016 12:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Enya (õige nimi Eithne Ní Bhraonáin) ) isa Leo Brennan oli populaarse Iiri tantsuorkestri Slieve Foy Band juht, ema oli amatöörmuusik.
1970 moodustasid tema vanem õde Moya ja vennad Ciaran ja Pol koos oma kaksikonudega ansambli Clannad.
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Enya on Briti ja Iiri muusikaajaloo rikkaim naisartist, kuid hiigelvarandus ei tähenda hiiglaslikku õnne. Täna 55. sünnipäeva tähistav lauljanna võib haruharva avalikkuse ees näha. "Ega ta mingi rõõmurull ole jah," tunnistavad sõbradki.
Hiljuti sai teatavaks, et Enya varandust hinnatakse 91 miljonile naelsterlingile ehk 115 miljonile eurole. Eraklik lauljanna ületab jõukuselt isegi viimaste aastate superstaari Adele’i.
Ta on müünud rohkem plaate kui One Direction ning tema naabrimeheks on U2 solist Bono. Kuid Enya päevad mööduvad Dublini krahvkonnas Killineys Victoria-aegse hiigellossi hallide müüride vahel. Teda juba ööklubist välja tuigerdamas ei näe
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1970 moodustasid tema vanem õde Moya ja vennad Ciaran ja Pol koos oma kaksikonudega ansambli Clannad.
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Enya on Briti ja Iiri muusikaajaloo rikkaim naisartist, kuid hiigelvarandus ei tähenda hiiglaslikku õnne. Täna 55. sünnipäeva tähistav lauljanna võib haruharva avalikkuse ees näha. "Ega ta mingi rõõmurull ole jah," tunnistavad sõbradki.
Hiljuti sai teatavaks, et Enya varandust hinnatakse 91 miljonile naelsterlingile ehk 115 miljonile eurole. Eraklik lauljanna ületab jõukuselt isegi viimaste aastate superstaari Adele’i.
Ta on müünud rohkem plaate kui One Direction ning tema naabrimeheks on U2 solist Bono. Kuid Enya päevad mööduvad Dublini krahvkonnas Killineys Victoria-aegse hiigellossi hallide müüride vahel. Teda juba ööklubist välja tuigerdamas ei näe
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9 July 2016 12:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey, kui loomingut ehedana hoida soovid,siis peaks ehedaid keeli ja meeli ka kasutama
"Et oma loomingut võimalikult ehedana hoida, ei kuula Enya teiste artistide muusikat. Ta on koguni väitnud, et pole elu sees ühtki plaati ostnud. Tema koostööpartneriteks on vanem abielupaar, kelle seltsis on Enya oma muusikat loonud juba 30 aastat. Nicky Ryan (69) oli lauljanna omaaegse pereansambli Clannad produtsent.
Kui Clannadis süntesaatorit mänginud ja tausta laulnud Enya 1981. aastal ansamblist tüliga lahkus, kolis ta elama Ryani ja tolle abikaasa Roma (61) koju. Nad hakkasid kolmekesi muusikat kirjutama. Nii sündiski 1987. aastal Enya debüütalbum.
Järgmisel aastal avaldatud "Watermark" tegi iirlannast maailmakuulsuse tänu singlile "Orinoco Flow (Sail Away)".
Nüüdseks on Enya võitnud neli Grammy auhinda ning tõusnud oma panusega "Sõrmuste isanda" soundtrack’ile Oscari kandidaadiks. Ryanitest elab ta paari minuti kaugusel.
Ebamaiselt sillerdavaid laule lindistatakse ülima täpsusega kihthaaval. Vahel on vokaal koguni 500 korda ülesalvestatud. Kunagi laulis Enya inglise ja gaeli keele segus.
Nüüd kõlavad tema lauludes sindarin ja quenya, keeled, mille lõi "Sõrmuste isanda" kirjanik J.R.R. Tolkien – ning Enya ja tema loomepartnerite leiutatud loxian."
"Et oma loomingut võimalikult ehedana hoida, ei kuula Enya teiste artistide muusikat. Ta on koguni väitnud, et pole elu sees ühtki plaati ostnud. Tema koostööpartneriteks on vanem abielupaar, kelle seltsis on Enya oma muusikat loonud juba 30 aastat. Nicky Ryan (69) oli lauljanna omaaegse pereansambli Clannad produtsent.
Kui Clannadis süntesaatorit mänginud ja tausta laulnud Enya 1981. aastal ansamblist tüliga lahkus, kolis ta elama Ryani ja tolle abikaasa Roma (61) koju. Nad hakkasid kolmekesi muusikat kirjutama. Nii sündiski 1987. aastal Enya debüütalbum.
Järgmisel aastal avaldatud "Watermark" tegi iirlannast maailmakuulsuse tänu singlile "Orinoco Flow (Sail Away)".
Nüüdseks on Enya võitnud neli Grammy auhinda ning tõusnud oma panusega "Sõrmuste isanda" soundtrack’ile Oscari kandidaadiks. Ryanitest elab ta paari minuti kaugusel.
Ebamaiselt sillerdavaid laule lindistatakse ülima täpsusega kihthaaval. Vahel on vokaal koguni 500 korda ülesalvestatud. Kunagi laulis Enya inglise ja gaeli keele segus.
Nüüd kõlavad tema lauludes sindarin ja quenya, keeled, mille lõi "Sõrmuste isanda" kirjanik J.R.R. Tolkien – ning Enya ja tema loomepartnerite leiutatud loxian."
9 July 2016 12:50
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
et halvas mõttes,et nagu kui nii arvata, siis oletki oma reaalsuses kirikute keskel, kes peegeldavad Su oma sügavamat olekut...
9 July 2016 12:41
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
nu sellise loogika järgi pole imestada, kuhumaani Sa oma kirikute taset hoiad
9 July 2016 12:41
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
mis loogika järgi kirik kinni peaks olema. Kus kohast see kasulikus tuleb?
Kui oled juba targaks saanud, siis tuleb ka ju kuskile minna
Kui oled juba targaks saanud, siis tuleb ka ju kuskile minna
9 July 2016 12:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga jah..raamatukogud on kõik kinni.. nagu eesti peale ei jaguks opilasi ja uusi värskeid kes tasuta harjutada nii olulist ja targalt huvitavana tunduvat ametit korrakski, noortel, tasuta võiks lasta raamatukogusi ja usklikutel tasuta hoida usukodasi käimas, sest vaja , meil siin hoida miskit tarkust üleval alati, ja võimaldada...hoida neid kordi lahti sest just neil aegadel need asjad tulevad tihti asjalikult inimesel, mis on tavaajast väljas, esiteks siis õhk puhtam
9 July 2016 12:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui radikaalselt praktiliselt asja vaadata, peale valu äraolemist,
mis õpetus inimesest endast jäänud lõpuks on kas kõigi naiste ja mehi koondamise poolne või..omakeskis uhkelt üksikult..
mis õpetus inimesest endast jäänud lõpuks on kas kõigi naiste ja mehi koondamise poolne või..omakeskis uhkelt üksikult..
9 July 2016 12:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui tahad päriselt naerdes surma minna siis mine, mis igatsevalt, taganutvalt sellest laulad Naine
9 July 2016 12:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mõelda kui saikost laul see on... et nii mehe osas kui see tõsi kui ka naise oma teadmatuse osas, ise enda osas..
vau.. kui nüüd sõnasõnat päris loona arvastada, mis sonudesse pantud.. et siis teine Su elu pärast süüüdi?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Oc25MT-AM
vau.. kui nüüd sõnasõnat päris loona arvastada, mis sonudesse pantud.. et siis teine Su elu pärast süüüdi?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Oc25MT-AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Oc25MT-AM
9 July 2016 12:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
aga lõpuks kuulavatki kõik ja pole vaja kahetseda mis heaks suureks ja suurelt tundmatuks saab https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmCZFW8oItc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmCZFW8oItc
9 July 2016 12:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY_VV5fCeQU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY_VV5fCeQU
9 July 2016 12:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehk kui tarkvara peal pildi mileks iganes paned... siis riistvara see mis teatud heaalu suuruste vahet reguleerivad ja üldse lopuks otsustada saavad mis pilti rikkad näevad
9 July 2016 12:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yeh, teie teoorial ja ideel ja suunal, muutusel, ei ole sisu kui sellel sisu pole mis reaalsuse kasuks või seda arvesse võttes arvesse võetakse, et pilti saad ju täielikult muuta vast kuid reaalsusega peab see ikka olema kooskõlas..
9 July 2016 12:13
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
it is mostly jus for reason to make our self crazy, not even caring what is inside or how to send to who...and thinking to spoof.. just automatic interference, is sufficient for confusing most people
9 July 2016 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
How mad MaD Asia
9 July 2016 12:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja veelgi rohkem seda sama mis enne... veel "püüdlikumalt" .. aga ikkagi.. lahti keeramine aga mite oiget suunda üteldes... sedasi suures plaanis hea kyljest saad lahti keeratud ka..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjkdrF-5ksE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjkdrF-5ksE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjkdrF-5ksE
9 July 2016 11:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Dangerous but new fassism main tool that most agree they like, more and more..
"...BUT
Bought songs was played by same hands.
I Know, it looks incredibele to some.."
// REALLY, You know, for sure, and incredible what, that song was playyed by same person, the two songs, the first one and the one what he asked them to chnage... that first and second.. was played by same, what a incredible reallity of consiious focus of truth sounding.. as You COULD really greate whatever...
But in the end... last sentence, they say.. Do it on Purpose this time... (before sya whatever)
.. but forot to mention good and better purposes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNd5wNkFIVs
"...BUT
Bought songs was played by same hands.
I Know, it looks incredibele to some.."
// REALLY, You know, for sure, and incredible what, that song was playyed by same person, the two songs, the first one and the one what he asked them to chnage... that first and second.. was played by same, what a incredible reallity of consiious focus of truth sounding.. as You COULD really greate whatever...
But in the end... last sentence, they say.. Do it on Purpose this time... (before sya whatever)
.. but forot to mention good and better purposes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNd5wNkFIVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNd5wNkFIVs
9 July 2016 11:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
et siis..
9 July 2016 11:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sõnamäng ongi see, et suures plaanis praegune süsteem peakski olema "otsedemokraatia"
TA TallinnaTV tasemel teadmistega elektroonikast hoiatab ja ennustab ainult selle eest, kui meelega elektroonikat valesti kaustama hakatakse valedel füüsilistel arusaamistel põhinevalt et kellel on õigus ja kes pole võrdne.. et tuleb paika panna ka, et eri elektroniak hääl on eri väärtusega, eri ajal
(ehk siis praegu hääletustel olgu maine või mis iganes, kõikide hääl on võrdseks paberil tehtud ja omakorda kes iganes mis iganes osas saavad enamasti hääletada, mis suures osas on ebaaaus ja ilma teadliku paraleeli, kus ka teadjate hääletuse tulemusi kõrval paraleelselt arvesse enamasti võetakse... et ilma selliste veresoonte, nad seda orjalaagrit stabiilselt toimima ei saa, nii, et nad ise ära ei väsiks, et ise ennast paremini ehitavalt sõbralikult kasvada endal laseks.. ilma, et tulnukaidpeaksime hirmutama, kes meie kasvu tagasi eri osades hoidma peab (mis lõppkokkuvõtes siis mitmes osas, pea kõigis osades tagasi hoiab kogu enamuse arusaame sellest mis enamasti kindalt suuresoosas olemas on) )
TA TallinnaTV tasemel teadmistega elektroonikast hoiatab ja ennustab ainult selle eest, kui meelega elektroonikat valesti kaustama hakatakse valedel füüsilistel arusaamistel põhinevalt et kellel on õigus ja kes pole võrdne.. et tuleb paika panna ka, et eri elektroniak hääl on eri väärtusega, eri ajal
(ehk siis praegu hääletustel olgu maine või mis iganes, kõikide hääl on võrdseks paberil tehtud ja omakorda kes iganes mis iganes osas saavad enamasti hääletada, mis suures osas on ebaaaus ja ilma teadliku paraleeli, kus ka teadjate hääletuse tulemusi kõrval paraleelselt arvesse enamasti võetakse... et ilma selliste veresoonte, nad seda orjalaagrit stabiilselt toimima ei saa, nii, et nad ise ära ei väsiks, et ise ennast paremini ehitavalt sõbralikult kasvada endal laseks.. ilma, et tulnukaidpeaksime hirmutama, kes meie kasvu tagasi eri osades hoidma peab (mis lõppkokkuvõtes siis mitmes osas, pea kõigis osades tagasi hoiab kogu enamuse arusaame sellest mis enamasti kindalt suuresoosas olemas on) )
9 July 2016 11:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mis ta siis kultuurivõimu asemel soovib demokraatiat, kui iganes kultuurivaba see ka saab olema, et võrdne olla kõikide arvamusi võrdselt mitte arvestades, vaidluse puuduse ja sarnaste probleeemimis nõustumise tarvis
9 July 2016 10:55
Margus Meigo replied to Helle Kaasik's comment.
...et senikaua eisa a me rääkida koolide, valitsuste ja kultuuride headusest, need tuleb korda seada, maha tõmmata ei jaksa ja pole mõtet, kuid aidata õigeks, et nende omade relvadega nende omad sarvikud nurka ajada ja paljastada
7 July 2016 15:52
Margus Meigo replied to Helle Kaasik's comment.
kuid jah.. kui Su töös Helle väljatoodud positiivseid asju lugeda, ja arvestada Kurjuse jõude kes vastupidise osas teadlikult töötavad.. siis ka arusaadav, KUI sur oht on, kui see saladus avalikuseni TEADLIKULT jõuab.. et millega tegu ja mis osaga loooja loodud loodusest meid eraldada proovitakse.. et hoida meie arengu.t... või mine tea, ehk see ongi muna milles sünnime, linnuteel, meie iidse loomislooo kohaselt..
Kuid senikaua kui kurjuse poole viivad ained on lubatud paralleelselt hseu adpoole viivate keelatusega... (siin EI ole pistmist, et teadus "ei tea veel" vaid tuleb uurida KES ja MIKS keelanud siiani tegelikult on... ega neid keelu seadusi millesse mugavalt asjad praegu pakitakse.. pold ju vanasti olemas... siis lööödi lihtsalt hispaanlaste vms prantslaste poolt või verejänuliste viikinglaste poolt maha kui keegi proovis otse looduse loojat teenda ja perega rahus ja armastuses elada väljasüües kurjuse alaarengut, asendades seda rahu, armastuse, tarkuse ja iluga)
Kuid senikaua kui kurjuse poole viivad ained on lubatud paralleelselt hseu adpoole viivate keelatusega... (siin EI ole pistmist, et teadus "ei tea veel" vaid tuleb uurida KES ja MIKS keelanud siiani tegelikult on... ega neid keelu seadusi millesse mugavalt asjad praegu pakitakse.. pold ju vanasti olemas... siis lööödi lihtsalt hispaanlaste vms prantslaste poolt või verejänuliste viikinglaste poolt maha kui keegi proovis otse looduse loojat teenda ja perega rahus ja armastuses elada väljasüües kurjuse alaarengut, asendades seda rahu, armastuse, tarkuse ja iluga)
7 July 2016 15:49
Margus Meigo replied to Helle Kaasik's comment.
nu jah,
BOMe osas, eks enamasti inimeste enda teadmatuses tekitatud vead, mille nad on hoolimatuses enda elu või teiste osas ükskõiksusega tekitatud... need süüdistused enamasti alati lihtsam aine, vahendaja ja kelle iganes kaela ajada... kui endale vastutus võtta.
Ja pealegi, mõned ekstreem eksimused ja kahjustused on täiesti aksepteeritud ja normaalsed, arvestades kui suurultle oi ajste asjadega inimesed tegeelkes v, advaevuvad aru saama...
palju lamedamate ja totramate ideede ja tegud enimel massiliselt rutiinselt iga päev sureb ja piinatakse inimesi... ja tagajärgedest tulnud kahjustsuste hulgast ei hakka üldse rääkimagi, mida perekonnad kandma peavad rutiinselt... millega harjutud oldakse...
kuid siis kui moni üksik saab ajutise või surmava vea, teemadega mis ÜLI korgelt olulised ja äärmuslikult tähtsad.. siis see paisutatakse üle, nagu asi oleks ohtlik... kui tegelikult asi oli OLULINE mittte ohtlik.. ja ammugi riski 10 000 korda rohkem väärt, kui inimesed vaid vaevuksid teadma, ... põhi relv inimese arengu peatamiseks ja neid veale saatmiseks on südame ükskõiksuse või hoolimatuse teele suunamine
BOMe osas, eks enamasti inimeste enda teadmatuses tekitatud vead, mille nad on hoolimatuses enda elu või teiste osas ükskõiksusega tekitatud... need süüdistused enamasti alati lihtsam aine, vahendaja ja kelle iganes kaela ajada... kui endale vastutus võtta.
Ja pealegi, mõned ekstreem eksimused ja kahjustused on täiesti aksepteeritud ja normaalsed, arvestades kui suurultle oi ajste asjadega inimesed tegeelkes v, advaevuvad aru saama...
palju lamedamate ja totramate ideede ja tegud enimel massiliselt rutiinselt iga päev sureb ja piinatakse inimesi... ja tagajärgedest tulnud kahjustsuste hulgast ei hakka üldse rääkimagi, mida perekonnad kandma peavad rutiinselt... millega harjutud oldakse...
kuid siis kui moni üksik saab ajutise või surmava vea, teemadega mis ÜLI korgelt olulised ja äärmuslikult tähtsad.. siis see paisutatakse üle, nagu asi oleks ohtlik... kui tegelikult asi oli OLULINE mittte ohtlik.. ja ammugi riski 10 000 korda rohkem väärt, kui inimesed vaid vaevuksid teadma, ... põhi relv inimese arengu peatamiseks ja neid veale saatmiseks on südame ükskõiksuse või hoolimatuse teele suunamine
7 July 2016 15:43
Margus Meigo replied to Helle Kaasik's comment.
Need inimesed, kes külvavad ebausladusväärsuse infot viimaste allikate osas süüdimatult, teevad väga suure karuteene või on agendi palgale üle läinud, .. sest parimini just toimib endiste legendide hirmutamine ja nende "oh nüüd see pole enam väärt" vms strateegia, selle asemel, et innustada ja julgustada riskima uut generatsiooni, kes suudaks vastu panna ja elus hoida legende ja ravimeid kuni need kunagi ringiga uuesti metsavanemate kätte jõuavad.
Vahest harva tehakse ka teadmatusest neid vigasi.. sest jäetud kinni mugavustsooni, ja tellitud kohtadest mis ammu üle võetud või võltskoopiatega asendatud. Kui pole tutud narko foorumitega kursis hoitud läbi tuntud usaldusisikute, et kas see või teine müügikoht endiselt veel on päris, või on nad suletud ja mingid pätid nende asemel (või agendid, kellele kasulik on halba saasta müüa, kahjustada inimesi, sest see lükkab kõige rohkem inimesi eemale hirmuga ja "karistab" neid... nagu Andgmekaitse töölised, Sony ja mitmed muud AMETLIKUD asutused, riigi rahadega tegid digitaal võrgus p2p võrgus viiruseid ja ründe strateegiaid tavainimeste arvutite vastu, et neid piraatlusest eemale hirmutada... isegi muusika failide sisse asusid nad lausa viirusi panema.. mis koostöös op systeemi tavatarkvaraga toimisid...nii peeneks läksid nad... teadvuse ja teadmiste vastased, inimeste vastased kes ainete vastased kasutavad sama ja veelgi hullemaid strateegiaid, see elementaarne... seega seda arvesse võttes me ei tohiks suvaliselt hakata edasi külvama nende hirmutamisi ja rynnakuid, samamoodi edasi minna usus nagu ristiusu ja juudi usu vastalistega, kelle valesi ja manipulatsiooni skeeme tuleb ignoreerida, ja neist üle olla, seni kuni tõde veel kingituseks on meeles ja südames alles)
Vahest harva tehakse ka teadmatusest neid vigasi.. sest jäetud kinni mugavustsooni, ja tellitud kohtadest mis ammu üle võetud või võltskoopiatega asendatud. Kui pole tutud narko foorumitega kursis hoitud läbi tuntud usaldusisikute, et kas see või teine müügikoht endiselt veel on päris, või on nad suletud ja mingid pätid nende asemel (või agendid, kellele kasulik on halba saasta müüa, kahjustada inimesi, sest see lükkab kõige rohkem inimesi eemale hirmuga ja "karistab" neid... nagu Andgmekaitse töölised, Sony ja mitmed muud AMETLIKUD asutused, riigi rahadega tegid digitaal võrgus p2p võrgus viiruseid ja ründe strateegiaid tavainimeste arvutite vastu, et neid piraatlusest eemale hirmutada... isegi muusika failide sisse asusid nad lausa viirusi panema.. mis koostöös op systeemi tavatarkvaraga toimisid...nii peeneks läksid nad... teadvuse ja teadmiste vastased, inimeste vastased kes ainete vastased kasutavad sama ja veelgi hullemaid strateegiaid, see elementaarne... seega seda arvesse võttes me ei tohiks suvaliselt hakata edasi külvama nende hirmutamisi ja rynnakuid, samamoodi edasi minna usus nagu ristiusu ja juudi usu vastalistega, kelle valesi ja manipulatsiooni skeeme tuleb ignoreerida, ja neist üle olla, seni kuni tõde veel kingituseks on meeles ja südames alles)
7 July 2016 15:37
Margus Meigo replied to Helle Kaasik's comment.
Kui mu seda eelmist artiklit lugesid, siis just netist leitud kemikalid, ja nende organiseeritus puhtuse konkurentsis, on see mis ainete turvalisust ja usalduvust on ainukesena viimasel aastakümnendil tõstnud.
Väga ebaloogiline oleks, et keegi kellel on mitukümend tuhat klienti, et ta hakkaks riskima millegi sopa müümisega... nad siis pigem üldse ei saadaks midagi ja võtaks ainult raha, oleks ka austuse, feimi profiili säilitamise võimalus suurem, kui saata vähem kui maksimaalse kvaliteediga aineid.
Lihtsalt internetist tellimise julgust ja võimalusi on enamusel puudu, aga ohtu, et sellest jamasi saada, kui viitsida paarist foorumist enne järgi küsida, on väga väga väike või olematu
Väga ebaloogiline oleks, et keegi kellel on mitukümend tuhat klienti, et ta hakkaks riskima millegi sopa müümisega... nad siis pigem üldse ei saadaks midagi ja võtaks ainult raha, oleks ka austuse, feimi profiili säilitamise võimalus suurem, kui saata vähem kui maksimaalse kvaliteediga aineid.
Lihtsalt internetist tellimise julgust ja võimalusi on enamusel puudu, aga ohtu, et sellest jamasi saada, kui viitsida paarist foorumist enne järgi küsida, on väga väga väike või olematu
7 July 2016 15:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid seda lapsest saati mõelnud.. et mis saaks, kui meie päeval taevas olevad kuud ja päikest korraga filmida üle maailma eri nurkades samal ajal...
7 July 2016 13:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu .. muidu kohtades kus ise reisinud olen, näeb see lameda maa teema suht sama lame kui ühe dimensiooniline palli idee, mis aitab psüholoogilistelt inimstel rahuneda ja ühekohapeal tööd teha vähememast rahulikult... sest mis sa ikka tiirutad.. (tehnoloogia vast siis peaks olema, et kui astud üheltpoolt välja, siis tuled teiseltpoolt tagasi )
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3n2kri/why_does_the_un_flag_have_a_flat_earth_map_logo/
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3n2kri/why_does_the_un_flag_have_a_flat_earth_map_logo/
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3n2kri/why_does_the_un_flag_have_a_flat_earth_map_logo/
7 July 2016 13:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jeerum, see täis filmi suurune, tuasb vaadata v?
Kas nad mõtlevad, "lameda maa" nagu, et lameda laubaliste, et igava maa vms, või mis ?
Kas nad mõtlevad, "lameda maa" nagu, et lameda laubaliste, et igava maa vms, või mis ?
7 July 2016 13:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
ja muidugi telegrammist rääkides:
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Kunagi oli selle huvitavaid artikleid isegi põnev lugeda aga tänaseks on minu jaoks sellest saanud täielik rämpsajakirjandus. Kuidas saab üldse keegi seda tõsiselt võtta kui iga viies artikkel tahab sulle pähe määrida, et maa on lapik?
Sealsed autorid on ikka reaalsustaju täielikult ära kaotanud.
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7 July 2016 12:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
7 July 2016 12:35
Margus Meigo replied to Ain Rammu's comment.
Peaasi, et meesteks jääte, ja eriarvamuste pärast üksteist blokeerima ei hakka,
asjalikud vaidlused ja intriigid kommentaarides hoiavad rohkem inimesi lugemas kui lihtsad naeratustega huvitavad postitused
Nimesi ei maini, aga just minuni tuligi teade, et näe, mehed jälle müravad, et huvitav, põhimõtteliselt.
asjalikud vaidlused ja intriigid kommentaarides hoiavad rohkem inimesi lugemas kui lihtsad naeratustega huvitavad postitused
Nimesi ei maini, aga just minuni tuligi teade, et näe, mehed jälle müravad, et huvitav, põhimõtteliselt.
6 July 2016 23:45
Margus Meigo replied to Helle Kaasik's comment.
(lisaks, mõtteid mis sellega seoses peast läbi jookseb..)
...et ainete enda osas, on psy inimesed suht teadlikud, ja Eesti nii väike, et kui keegi peaks miskit jama müüma siis võib kindel olla, et selle inimese avalikult ka oksa tõmmatud saab, piltlikult. Nagu igaüks tegema peaks kes neis asjades eksib.
Kui mees ei vasta ausalt miks ta teise Hinge rikkuda proovis.
Kuid LSD enda olemuselt kas on või ei ole. "rikkutud" või "ebapuhas" LSD on enamasti rahvalegend, vastaste poolt inimeste seas laiali lastud, hirmutamiseks.
Kui kogu Ayuasca olemus suudaks ennast 20 000 inimese toosi ühte grammi mahutada, siis oleks to veelgi ohtlikumate kuulujuttude ohver. Kuid viimase jaoks peab vaeva nägema ja seega otsene "oht" et suurem osa inimesi Teada saaks, millega Tegelikult on tegu, praktiliselt puudub.
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Üldjuhul on ainete müüjad 90% ulatuses äärmiselt austusrikkad ja malbed, tagasihoidlikud, heatahtlikud ja ausad inimesed.
Kuid nagu ütlesin, Eesti turg, on nii haruldane, et siin ei ole meeletuid ohte midagi muud saada. Sest lihtsalt ei eksisteeri rohkemas kui rahvaluules reaalseid müüjaid kes võlts kemikaalidega ringi jookseks.
Ma pole 10 aasta jooksul veel ühtegi kohanud. Vb mu olemus ajab need eemale..
Kõige suurem pettus oli, et sain põllumajandus kaneit kilekotitäie ükskord päris ravimi asemle.
Enamasi on ka oleku ja silmade järgi näha, kas inimene teab mida ta müüb ausalt või proovib ta mingit jama pähe määrida.
Kuid kahjuks isegi neid jamade pähemäärijaid on vähe..
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Siin muidu päris hästi toodud välja, turu ohtlikus ja selle lahendus, (see NBOMe osa)
http://secretlaboratory.org/how-silk-road-saved-the-worlds-lsd-scene/
...et ainete enda osas, on psy inimesed suht teadlikud, ja Eesti nii väike, et kui keegi peaks miskit jama müüma siis võib kindel olla, et selle inimese avalikult ka oksa tõmmatud saab, piltlikult. Nagu igaüks tegema peaks kes neis asjades eksib.
Kui mees ei vasta ausalt miks ta teise Hinge rikkuda proovis.
Kuid LSD enda olemuselt kas on või ei ole. "rikkutud" või "ebapuhas" LSD on enamasti rahvalegend, vastaste poolt inimeste seas laiali lastud, hirmutamiseks.
Kui kogu Ayuasca olemus suudaks ennast 20 000 inimese toosi ühte grammi mahutada, siis oleks to veelgi ohtlikumate kuulujuttude ohver. Kuid viimase jaoks peab vaeva nägema ja seega otsene "oht" et suurem osa inimesi Teada saaks, millega Tegelikult on tegu, praktiliselt puudub.
.___
Üldjuhul on ainete müüjad 90% ulatuses äärmiselt austusrikkad ja malbed, tagasihoidlikud, heatahtlikud ja ausad inimesed.
Kuid nagu ütlesin, Eesti turg, on nii haruldane, et siin ei ole meeletuid ohte midagi muud saada. Sest lihtsalt ei eksisteeri rohkemas kui rahvaluules reaalseid müüjaid kes võlts kemikaalidega ringi jookseks.
Ma pole 10 aasta jooksul veel ühtegi kohanud. Vb mu olemus ajab need eemale..
Kõige suurem pettus oli, et sain põllumajandus kaneit kilekotitäie ükskord päris ravimi asemle.
Enamasi on ka oleku ja silmade järgi näha, kas inimene teab mida ta müüb ausalt või proovib ta mingit jama pähe määrida.
Kuid kahjuks isegi neid jamade pähemäärijaid on vähe..
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Siin muidu päris hästi toodud välja, turu ohtlikus ja selle lahendus, (see NBOMe osa)
http://secretlaboratory.org/how-silk-road-saved-the-worlds-lsd-scene/
http://secretlaboratory.org/how-silk-road-saved-the-worlds-lsd-scene/
6 July 2016 23:40
Margus Meigo replied to Helle Kaasik's comment.
Kõige suurem oht muidu on neist asjust hoiduda ja siis kunagi mitte üldse LSDeni jõuda... hirmuga nad meid eemale ajavad..
6 July 2016 23:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Skype: WaffaD
6 July 2016 21:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nõuka Hipid muidugi oma "hippid" (muidugi LSd oli teise nime all ka Nliidus..)
Nõukogude hipid ei elanud suurtes kommuunides, ei trippinud LSDga ega hõivanud tänavaid kirevate protestiaktsioonidega. Teisitimõtlejaid ootasid selles riigis KGB ja hullumaja. Ent ometi nakatusid paljud 1960ndate lõpu ja 1970. aastate noored NSV Liidus rock-muusika kõlast ja vabaduse ideest, millest kujunes Lääne omast erinev hipiliikumine. Nad kasvatasid pikad juuksed ja põrutasid kevade saabudes pöidlaküüdiga rändama.
Need noored kujundasid nõukogude korra varjus vastastikusel abistamisel põhineva võrgustiku, omamoodi paralleelmaailma, mida nad nimetasid Sistema’ks. Kuidas Sistema toimis, milline oli Eestis kuulsus nõukogude hipide hulgas ja mida tähendas hipielus kaif?
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/areen/hipide-paralleelmaailm-noukogude-liidus?id=72246957
Nõukogude hipid ei elanud suurtes kommuunides, ei trippinud LSDga ega hõivanud tänavaid kirevate protestiaktsioonidega. Teisitimõtlejaid ootasid selles riigis KGB ja hullumaja. Ent ometi nakatusid paljud 1960ndate lõpu ja 1970. aastate noored NSV Liidus rock-muusika kõlast ja vabaduse ideest, millest kujunes Lääne omast erinev hipiliikumine. Nad kasvatasid pikad juuksed ja põrutasid kevade saabudes pöidlaküüdiga rändama.
Need noored kujundasid nõukogude korra varjus vastastikusel abistamisel põhineva võrgustiku, omamoodi paralleelmaailma, mida nad nimetasid Sistema’ks. Kuidas Sistema toimis, milline oli Eestis kuulsus nõukogude hipide hulgas ja mida tähendas hipielus kaif?
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/areen/hipide-paralleelmaailm-noukogude-liidus?id=72246957
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/areen/hipide-paralleelmaailm-noukogude-liidus?id=72246957
6 July 2016 19:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"A team of Norwegian researchers has established that the psychedelic drug LSD is an effective medicine for the treatment of alcoholism, arguing that it should be used more widely.
Paul-Oliver Johansen and Teri Krebs, researchers at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU) in Trondheim, have analyzed previous research into LSD and have come to the conclusion that a single dose of the drug may work just as well against alcohol addiction as daily doses of medications currently in use today.
As a result of their work, the researchers have argued that LSD should be included in the range of medications for treating alcoholism in Norway, according to a report by the Aftenposten daily.
"You should consider offering LSD therapy in combination with other therapeutic treatment to patients who have not been helped by current methods," they said.
The research which supports their conclusions was carried out in the 1950s, 60s and 70s, with the scientists coming across a total of six studies that met contemporary scientific standards.
After examining the six studies it was established that 59 percent of patients who had received LSD, had either quit drinking, or were drinking less than before.
"Treatment with a single dose of LSD seems to give equally good results as the daily use of medications used to treat alcoholism today. It is unusual that a drug has therapeutic effect for six months after one dose," the researchers explained.
The results of the study were published on Friday in the prestigious British Journal of Psychopharmacology, and by Nature News.
LSD can cause altered states of consciousness and sensory experiences. It is prohibited in Norway as a narcotic substance, but is permitted for use as a medicine.
http://www.thelocal.no/20120309/use-lsd-to-combat-alcoholism-experts
Paul-Oliver Johansen and Teri Krebs, researchers at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU) in Trondheim, have analyzed previous research into LSD and have come to the conclusion that a single dose of the drug may work just as well against alcohol addiction as daily doses of medications currently in use today.
As a result of their work, the researchers have argued that LSD should be included in the range of medications for treating alcoholism in Norway, according to a report by the Aftenposten daily.
"You should consider offering LSD therapy in combination with other therapeutic treatment to patients who have not been helped by current methods," they said.
The research which supports their conclusions was carried out in the 1950s, 60s and 70s, with the scientists coming across a total of six studies that met contemporary scientific standards.
After examining the six studies it was established that 59 percent of patients who had received LSD, had either quit drinking, or were drinking less than before.
"Treatment with a single dose of LSD seems to give equally good results as the daily use of medications used to treat alcoholism today. It is unusual that a drug has therapeutic effect for six months after one dose," the researchers explained.
The results of the study were published on Friday in the prestigious British Journal of Psychopharmacology, and by Nature News.
LSD can cause altered states of consciousness and sensory experiences. It is prohibited in Norway as a narcotic substance, but is permitted for use as a medicine.
http://www.thelocal.no/20120309/use-lsd-to-combat-alcoholism-experts
http://www.thelocal.no/20120309/use-lsd-to-combat-alcoholism-experts
6 July 2016 19:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
“Pigem seondus psühhedeelsete ainete kasutamine mitmel juhul hoopis vaimse tervise probleemide väiksema esinemissagedusega,” kirjutasid teadlased.
Uuringu käigus analüüsiti enam kui 130 000 ameeriklaselt kogutud andmeid, kes olid vastanud aastatel 2001-2004 narkootikumide tarvitamist puudutavatele küsitlustele. Uurimisalustest 22 000 olid tarvitanud vähemalt kord elus psühhedeelseid aineid.
Varasemad uuringud, mille käigus on tõendamist leidnud psühhedeelsete ainete kahjulik mõju vaimsele tervisele, on põhinenud väikesele arvule juba varem vaimuhaigusi põdenud patsiente käsitlevatele juhtumitele, jättes täielikult kõrvale suure osa inimestest, kellel ei tekkinud ühtegi negatiivset kõrvalmõju, väitis Krebs.
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http://www.telegram.ee/toit-ja-tervis/uus-uuring-lsd-kahjulik-moju-on-muut
http://www.thelocal.no/20120309/use-lsd-to-combat-alcoholism-experts
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0063972
Uuringu käigus analüüsiti enam kui 130 000 ameeriklaselt kogutud andmeid, kes olid vastanud aastatel 2001-2004 narkootikumide tarvitamist puudutavatele küsitlustele. Uurimisalustest 22 000 olid tarvitanud vähemalt kord elus psühhedeelseid aineid.
Varasemad uuringud, mille käigus on tõendamist leidnud psühhedeelsete ainete kahjulik mõju vaimsele tervisele, on põhinenud väikesele arvule juba varem vaimuhaigusi põdenud patsiente käsitlevatele juhtumitele, jättes täielikult kõrvale suure osa inimestest, kellel ei tekkinud ühtegi negatiivset kõrvalmõju, väitis Krebs.
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http://www.telegram.ee/toit-ja-tervis/uus-uuring-lsd-kahjulik-moju-on-muut
http://www.thelocal.no/20120309/use-lsd-to-combat-alcoholism-experts
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0063972
http://www.telegram.ee/toit-ja-tervis/uus-uuring-lsd-kahjulik-moju-on-muut
6 July 2016 19:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Minu ayahuasca-teemalise uurimistöö jätkumist saab toetada:
1) Jagades (anonüümselt) minuga oma kogemusi ayahuasca teemal. Väga oodatud on ka negatiivsed kogemused. Selleks palun kirjutage mulle aadressil helle.kaasik@ut.ee. Anonüümse mailiaadressi selliseks suhtlemiseks saab endale teha näiteks online.ee-s või gmailis.
2) Osaledes uurimistöös uuritavana (selleks ei pea olema ayahuascat tarvitanud), konsultandina või vabatahtliku abistajana – selleks palun kirjutage mulle aadressil helle.kaasik@ut.ee.
3) Ülekandega Helle Kaasiku arvele nr EE831010102003538001 SEB pangas (BIC/SWIFT: EEUHEE2X, panga aadress: Tornimäe 2, Tallinn, Estonia). Kõik annetused on vaikimisi konfidentsiaalsed; kui soovite tänuavaldust siia lehele, siis palun saatke mulle selle kohta e-mail aadressile helle.kaasik@ut.ee.
1) Jagades (anonüümselt) minuga oma kogemusi ayahuasca teemal. Väga oodatud on ka negatiivsed kogemused. Selleks palun kirjutage mulle aadressil helle.kaasik@ut.ee. Anonüümse mailiaadressi selliseks suhtlemiseks saab endale teha näiteks online.ee-s või gmailis.
2) Osaledes uurimistöös uuritavana (selleks ei pea olema ayahuascat tarvitanud), konsultandina või vabatahtliku abistajana – selleks palun kirjutage mulle aadressil helle.kaasik@ut.ee.
3) Ülekandega Helle Kaasiku arvele nr EE831010102003538001 SEB pangas (BIC/SWIFT: EEUHEE2X, panga aadress: Tornimäe 2, Tallinn, Estonia). Kõik annetused on vaikimisi konfidentsiaalsed; kui soovite tänuavaldust siia lehele, siis palun saatke mulle selle kohta e-mail aadressile helle.kaasik@ut.ee.
6 July 2016 19:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://kodu.ut.ee/~hellex/aya/Lisa4.htm
Tekstinäited: tarvitamise mõju elule.
Ayahuasca tarvitajate kirjeldused ayahuasca tarvitamise mõjudest nende elule.
· Olen mõistnud enda ja oma lähedaste vaheliste suhete tagamaid ning saanud sellest tugeva emotsionaalse laengu. Olen leidnud sügavama ja tähenduslikuma seose oma lastega.
· Lahendasin ära konfliktid oma eksnaisega ja peale seda me suhtleme nagu kaks normaalset täiskasvanut. Tegemist oli justkui uuestisünni ja kingitusega, kus näidati, et elu ja teadvus on palju palju laiem kui me arvame.
· Sain oluliselt teadlikumaks mitmetest endale olulistest teemadest, uue nägemuse surmast ja leinast.
· Õppisin mitte kartma surma. Sain uusi teadmisi enda kohta ja mõisin seoseid eelnevate kogemuste vahel.
· Oma elus olen tarvitanud uskumatuid koguseid alkoholi. Võib vist /-/ pidada isegi koolieast väljaarenenud sõltuvuseks. Sõltuvuseks, mis on tingitud sõpruskonna harjumusest. Olen sellest vabanenud täielikult.
· Söömisharjumused – vähenenud on soov söömisest naudingut otsida, seetõttu kehakaal veidi langenud (normi piires). Parem kehaline erksus ja vastuvõtlikkus uutele kogemustele.
· Teadlikkuse tõus toitumise, suhtlemises, suhtumise ja tegutsemiste osas. Erinevad tervenemised nii füüsilises kui psüühilises plaanis. Harmoonilisem paindlikum olek. Peale esimest tseremooniat kaotasin 6 kuuga 23 ülekilo (olin enne ülekaalus).
· Liigsöömisest loobumine, loomse rasva ja valge suhkru oluline vähendamine dieedis, enda keha eest hoolitsemine (trenn).
· Olen muutunud füüsiliselt aktiivsemaks. Sõidan jalgrattaga ja söön tervislikumalt.
· Füüsiline tervis on väga tihedalt seotud meie vaimse tervisega. Minu hetke füüsiline tervis on tänu vaimsele arengule palju parem, tugevam ja tervem.
· Ükskord jäi protsess pooleli ja olin kaks nädalat tasakaalust väljas
· Ayahuasca tarvitamise alguses muutusin mingi aeg liiga tundlikuks, emotsionaalseks.
· Seda maailma, olemise ja nägemise viisi, mida aya vaim näitab, pole kuigi lihtne üle kanda meie materiaalsesse maailma. Konfliktid ja pinged tekivad just sellelt pinnalt, kuidas neid maailmu kokku sulatada. Enamikel minu lähedastel puuduvad need kogemused, sestap tuleb õppida olla tolerantne.
· Kui seda saab nii nimetada halvemaks, siis see, et ma olen kogenud täiesti uut moodi reaalsust, on tekitanud ka teatavat ebakindlust ja hirmu reaalsuse kohta üldse. Ma ei saa elada "süütus" teadmatuses teistest maailmadest või olla kindel tavareaalsuses, kuna ma olen kogenud täiesti teistmoodi maailmu ja need kogemused on tunduvalt intensiivsemad kui argipäevakogemused. Need on olnud isegi rohkem reaalsed kui see reaalsus siin. Ma ei ole suutnud täiesti mõista ja lahti mõtestada, mis see on, mida ma kogesin ja see teadmatus tekitab teatavat hirmu ja kahtlusi.
· Ta on teinud tähelepanelikumaks ja see teeb paljude kriisiolukordade või poliitiliste kempluste jälgimise valulisemaks/isiklikumaks, sest me kõik võiksime ühiselt hoolida.
· Sügav puhastus ja tervendus. Peale tseremooniat toimus olemises ja mõtlemises suur positiivne muutus.
· Enesehinnangu paranemine, kompleksidest ja depressioonist vabanemine, suitsiidimõtetest vabanemine, negatiivsete mõtte- ja käitumismustrite suur vähenemine, paremad suhted teistega ja iseendaga leppimine.
· Vabanesin suitsiidimõtetest, depressioonist ja enesevigastamisest ja raske masenduse perioodidest.
· Enne Ayat olin /-/ sügavas depressioonis, tundus, et mul ei ole jõudu elada ega ole süü tõttu ka mingit õigust edasi elada. Ma arvan, et elangi tänu Aya abile.
· Mul on alati raskusi olnud oma emotsioonidega toimetulekul, aga ayahuasca kogemused õpetasid nendega paremini hakkama saama. Kui närvid on liiga pingul, siis oskan seda tundmust positiivseks elevuseks pöörata, nagu see sageli käib ayahusaca kogemuse kulgedes.
· Psüühiliste ja emotsionaalsete pingete taluvus on oluliselt paranenud. Vastupidavus, olen muutunud tasakaalukamaks, julgemaks, enesekindlamaks.
· Likvideerinud surmahirmu. Võtnud maha ärevust ja stressi. Tõstnud usku elusse ja inimkonda
· Mõistan rohkem oma hirme ja seda, kust nad tulevad.
· Tänu ayahuascale olen end nii heas kui halvas paremini tundma õppinud..Olen endaga rohkem leppinud ja eluga paremaks sõbraks saanud.
· Teadlikkuse tõus enda suhtes, suhtlemises, suhtumise ja tegutsemiste osas. Erinevad tervenemised psüühilises plaanis. Suurem vaimne selgus ja stabiilsus. Erinevates olukordades rahu säilitamine ja konkreetne tegutsemine ilma probleemi rattas pikalt keerlemiseta.
· Tekkis teadmine, et minu sees on suur maailm, millest varem polnud aimu. Kogesin esmakordselt teadlikult täielikku alistumist ja alandlikkust. Oma kehaga parema kontakti saavutamine ja tugev religioosne kogemus.
· Leian vajadusel kiiremini tee iseenda usaldamise juurde, kontaktini füüsilise kehaga.
· Muutis täielikult maailma tajumist, avardas tohutult maailmapilti. Andis palju selgust sellest, kuipalju on väljaspool tunnetust. Avardas tajusid, mis jäävad väljaspoole 5 meele ulatust.
· Mõistan vaimseid teemasid palju sügavamalt.
· Julgus usaldada loojat iseendas, püsida oma valitud elurajal kartmata, olla vaba valeuskumustest. Kõik on võimalik.
· .. ka igapäevaelus peaks rohkem teadlik olema ümbritsevast ilust. Samuti aitab see meelde tuletada, kui palju mulle on antud, mille eest tänulik olla.
· ... Aya on mind loominguliselt oluliselt vabamaks muutnud.
· Ayahuasca on üsna palju mõjutanud mu vaimset tervist. Ta on toonud mu ellu palju teadlikust, kuid pean rõhutama raamatute lugemise olulisust teadlikuse arendamisel peale ayahuasca tarvitamise. Leian et raamatud spirituaalsusest, eneseabist, psühholoogiast, filosoofiatest ja religioonidest on aidanud mul ayahuascalt saadud teadmisi igapäeva ellu rakendada. Teadlik olemine kõigest - mõtetest, tunnetest, emotsioonidest jne võimaldabki vaadelda igapäeva elu situasioone veidi objektiivsemalt, mis tõttu on võimalus sattuda negatiivsete emotsioonide ja mõtete küüsi palju väiksem. Arvan, et teadvelolek on see mis lubab elust palju rohkem rõõmu tunda.
· Kõige suurem muutus on toimunud mõttemaailmas. Nähes ja mõistes toimuvat enda ümber, nendesse integreerudes ja osaledes. Mõistmaks emotsionaalse tasakaalu tähtsust ja mõtete jõudu omas kehas.
· Kui ma saan aru, mis elus toimub, siis saan sellega midagi ette võtta (manipulatsioon näiteks), nii et kaudselt on abi olnud.
· Aya katsus mulle selgitada ka kaassõltuvuse toimemehhanismi, kui ma sellest veel kuulnudki polnud. Mingi kogemuse sealt sain. Iga kord mingi killu, mis siis ühel hetkel terviksüsteemiks kokku haakuvad ja mõistetavaks muutuvad.
· Kindlasti on ta mulle juurde andnud enesekindlust, tasakaalu. Koos teiste vaimsete praktikatega, mida igapäevaselt teen.
· Tasakaalukus, kõrgem enesehinnang. Aya oli üks osa teekonnast, mitte et ainult aya ise seda tegi. Mõeldes sellele ajale tagasi – 2 aastat, millesse mahtusid 5 tseremooniat – siis see periood ladus vundamendi vaimseks eneseanalüüsiks ja maailma tajumiseks.
· Tunnen ennast rohkem tõelisemana, ausamana enda ja teiste suhtes, tunnen et mul on rohkem väge, tunnen et rohkem sõltub minust, kui enne arvasin. Mul on parem arusaam oma sisemaailmas toimuvast ja ma olen suutnud elukogemusi positiivsemas, arenguvõtmes näha. See on tervendanud mu sisemisi haavu.
· Saan mõnedest asjadest paremini aru, sest oskan näha veidi laiemat pilti, mitmest perspektiivist. Samuti on saadud kogemused mind teinud emotsionaalselt tasakaalukamaks.
· See on andnud mulle uusi kogemusi ja avanud täiesti uue maailma. Kui sa pole seda kogenud, siis sa ei kujuta ette, et selline asi võib olemas olla. Ses mõttes on see kõvasti mu maailmapilti avardanud.
Tekstinäited: tarvitamise mõju elule.
Ayahuasca tarvitajate kirjeldused ayahuasca tarvitamise mõjudest nende elule.
· Olen mõistnud enda ja oma lähedaste vaheliste suhete tagamaid ning saanud sellest tugeva emotsionaalse laengu. Olen leidnud sügavama ja tähenduslikuma seose oma lastega.
· Lahendasin ära konfliktid oma eksnaisega ja peale seda me suhtleme nagu kaks normaalset täiskasvanut. Tegemist oli justkui uuestisünni ja kingitusega, kus näidati, et elu ja teadvus on palju palju laiem kui me arvame.
· Sain oluliselt teadlikumaks mitmetest endale olulistest teemadest, uue nägemuse surmast ja leinast.
· Õppisin mitte kartma surma. Sain uusi teadmisi enda kohta ja mõisin seoseid eelnevate kogemuste vahel.
· Oma elus olen tarvitanud uskumatuid koguseid alkoholi. Võib vist /-/ pidada isegi koolieast väljaarenenud sõltuvuseks. Sõltuvuseks, mis on tingitud sõpruskonna harjumusest. Olen sellest vabanenud täielikult.
· Söömisharjumused – vähenenud on soov söömisest naudingut otsida, seetõttu kehakaal veidi langenud (normi piires). Parem kehaline erksus ja vastuvõtlikkus uutele kogemustele.
· Teadlikkuse tõus toitumise, suhtlemises, suhtumise ja tegutsemiste osas. Erinevad tervenemised nii füüsilises kui psüühilises plaanis. Harmoonilisem paindlikum olek. Peale esimest tseremooniat kaotasin 6 kuuga 23 ülekilo (olin enne ülekaalus).
· Liigsöömisest loobumine, loomse rasva ja valge suhkru oluline vähendamine dieedis, enda keha eest hoolitsemine (trenn).
· Olen muutunud füüsiliselt aktiivsemaks. Sõidan jalgrattaga ja söön tervislikumalt.
· Füüsiline tervis on väga tihedalt seotud meie vaimse tervisega. Minu hetke füüsiline tervis on tänu vaimsele arengule palju parem, tugevam ja tervem.
· Ükskord jäi protsess pooleli ja olin kaks nädalat tasakaalust väljas
· Ayahuasca tarvitamise alguses muutusin mingi aeg liiga tundlikuks, emotsionaalseks.
· Seda maailma, olemise ja nägemise viisi, mida aya vaim näitab, pole kuigi lihtne üle kanda meie materiaalsesse maailma. Konfliktid ja pinged tekivad just sellelt pinnalt, kuidas neid maailmu kokku sulatada. Enamikel minu lähedastel puuduvad need kogemused, sestap tuleb õppida olla tolerantne.
· Kui seda saab nii nimetada halvemaks, siis see, et ma olen kogenud täiesti uut moodi reaalsust, on tekitanud ka teatavat ebakindlust ja hirmu reaalsuse kohta üldse. Ma ei saa elada "süütus" teadmatuses teistest maailmadest või olla kindel tavareaalsuses, kuna ma olen kogenud täiesti teistmoodi maailmu ja need kogemused on tunduvalt intensiivsemad kui argipäevakogemused. Need on olnud isegi rohkem reaalsed kui see reaalsus siin. Ma ei ole suutnud täiesti mõista ja lahti mõtestada, mis see on, mida ma kogesin ja see teadmatus tekitab teatavat hirmu ja kahtlusi.
· Ta on teinud tähelepanelikumaks ja see teeb paljude kriisiolukordade või poliitiliste kempluste jälgimise valulisemaks/isiklikumaks, sest me kõik võiksime ühiselt hoolida.
· Sügav puhastus ja tervendus. Peale tseremooniat toimus olemises ja mõtlemises suur positiivne muutus.
· Enesehinnangu paranemine, kompleksidest ja depressioonist vabanemine, suitsiidimõtetest vabanemine, negatiivsete mõtte- ja käitumismustrite suur vähenemine, paremad suhted teistega ja iseendaga leppimine.
· Vabanesin suitsiidimõtetest, depressioonist ja enesevigastamisest ja raske masenduse perioodidest.
· Enne Ayat olin /-/ sügavas depressioonis, tundus, et mul ei ole jõudu elada ega ole süü tõttu ka mingit õigust edasi elada. Ma arvan, et elangi tänu Aya abile.
· Mul on alati raskusi olnud oma emotsioonidega toimetulekul, aga ayahuasca kogemused õpetasid nendega paremini hakkama saama. Kui närvid on liiga pingul, siis oskan seda tundmust positiivseks elevuseks pöörata, nagu see sageli käib ayahusaca kogemuse kulgedes.
· Psüühiliste ja emotsionaalsete pingete taluvus on oluliselt paranenud. Vastupidavus, olen muutunud tasakaalukamaks, julgemaks, enesekindlamaks.
· Likvideerinud surmahirmu. Võtnud maha ärevust ja stressi. Tõstnud usku elusse ja inimkonda
· Mõistan rohkem oma hirme ja seda, kust nad tulevad.
· Tänu ayahuascale olen end nii heas kui halvas paremini tundma õppinud..Olen endaga rohkem leppinud ja eluga paremaks sõbraks saanud.
· Teadlikkuse tõus enda suhtes, suhtlemises, suhtumise ja tegutsemiste osas. Erinevad tervenemised psüühilises plaanis. Suurem vaimne selgus ja stabiilsus. Erinevates olukordades rahu säilitamine ja konkreetne tegutsemine ilma probleemi rattas pikalt keerlemiseta.
· Tekkis teadmine, et minu sees on suur maailm, millest varem polnud aimu. Kogesin esmakordselt teadlikult täielikku alistumist ja alandlikkust. Oma kehaga parema kontakti saavutamine ja tugev religioosne kogemus.
· Leian vajadusel kiiremini tee iseenda usaldamise juurde, kontaktini füüsilise kehaga.
· Muutis täielikult maailma tajumist, avardas tohutult maailmapilti. Andis palju selgust sellest, kuipalju on väljaspool tunnetust. Avardas tajusid, mis jäävad väljaspoole 5 meele ulatust.
· Mõistan vaimseid teemasid palju sügavamalt.
· Julgus usaldada loojat iseendas, püsida oma valitud elurajal kartmata, olla vaba valeuskumustest. Kõik on võimalik.
· .. ka igapäevaelus peaks rohkem teadlik olema ümbritsevast ilust. Samuti aitab see meelde tuletada, kui palju mulle on antud, mille eest tänulik olla.
· ... Aya on mind loominguliselt oluliselt vabamaks muutnud.
· Ayahuasca on üsna palju mõjutanud mu vaimset tervist. Ta on toonud mu ellu palju teadlikust, kuid pean rõhutama raamatute lugemise olulisust teadlikuse arendamisel peale ayahuasca tarvitamise. Leian et raamatud spirituaalsusest, eneseabist, psühholoogiast, filosoofiatest ja religioonidest on aidanud mul ayahuascalt saadud teadmisi igapäeva ellu rakendada. Teadlik olemine kõigest - mõtetest, tunnetest, emotsioonidest jne võimaldabki vaadelda igapäeva elu situasioone veidi objektiivsemalt, mis tõttu on võimalus sattuda negatiivsete emotsioonide ja mõtete küüsi palju väiksem. Arvan, et teadvelolek on see mis lubab elust palju rohkem rõõmu tunda.
· Kõige suurem muutus on toimunud mõttemaailmas. Nähes ja mõistes toimuvat enda ümber, nendesse integreerudes ja osaledes. Mõistmaks emotsionaalse tasakaalu tähtsust ja mõtete jõudu omas kehas.
· Kui ma saan aru, mis elus toimub, siis saan sellega midagi ette võtta (manipulatsioon näiteks), nii et kaudselt on abi olnud.
· Aya katsus mulle selgitada ka kaassõltuvuse toimemehhanismi, kui ma sellest veel kuulnudki polnud. Mingi kogemuse sealt sain. Iga kord mingi killu, mis siis ühel hetkel terviksüsteemiks kokku haakuvad ja mõistetavaks muutuvad.
· Kindlasti on ta mulle juurde andnud enesekindlust, tasakaalu. Koos teiste vaimsete praktikatega, mida igapäevaselt teen.
· Tasakaalukus, kõrgem enesehinnang. Aya oli üks osa teekonnast, mitte et ainult aya ise seda tegi. Mõeldes sellele ajale tagasi – 2 aastat, millesse mahtusid 5 tseremooniat – siis see periood ladus vundamendi vaimseks eneseanalüüsiks ja maailma tajumiseks.
· Tunnen ennast rohkem tõelisemana, ausamana enda ja teiste suhtes, tunnen et mul on rohkem väge, tunnen et rohkem sõltub minust, kui enne arvasin. Mul on parem arusaam oma sisemaailmas toimuvast ja ma olen suutnud elukogemusi positiivsemas, arenguvõtmes näha. See on tervendanud mu sisemisi haavu.
· Saan mõnedest asjadest paremini aru, sest oskan näha veidi laiemat pilti, mitmest perspektiivist. Samuti on saadud kogemused mind teinud emotsionaalselt tasakaalukamaks.
· See on andnud mulle uusi kogemusi ja avanud täiesti uue maailma. Kui sa pole seda kogenud, siis sa ei kujuta ette, et selline asi võib olemas olla. Ses mõttes on see kõvasti mu maailmapilti avardanud.
6 July 2016 19:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://kodu.ut.ee/~hellex/aya/Ayaeng.htm
"Objectives: The study aimed to describe psychology of ayahuasca users in Estonia. Their lifestyle, motivation for ayahuasca use, use-related activities and experiences, also subjective consequences of use were described. Indicators of personality, life quality and mental health of users were compared to those of non-users. Safety of use and attitudes of users about societal regulation of ayahuasca use were studied.
Method: 30 ayahuasca users (15 female) and 30 matched non-users completed questionnaires, tests of personality (EE.PIP-NEO, SNAP-2) and mental health (EEK-2, MoCA, Raven Standard Matrices and MINI neuropsychiatric interview). Textual answers were summarized by topics. Test scores were statistically analyzed.
Results: Ayahuasca use in Estonia occurred mainly in group ceremonies under guidance of experienced facilitators. Main motives for ayahuasca use were spiritual development, self-knowledge and spiritual experiences. No deterioration of mental or physical health of ayahuasca users in comparison to non-users was found. No abuse of ayahuasca or addiction to it was found. Screening test indicators of depression and anxiety were lower in ayahuasca-using group. Life satisfaction and happiness about life were higher in the ayahuasca using group. Personality of ayahuasca users was characterized by moderately lower neuroticism, higher openness and higher agreeability compared to test norms. Ayahuasca-using group had higher indicator of impulsivity and lower indicators of aggressiveness and propriety. Users see their use of ayahuasca as a serious and challenging spiritual practice that has mostly good influences on their mental health, social adjustment and personal development. Ceremonies were conducted in reasonably safe settings and users were aware of safety rules. Most users were dissatisfied with illegal status of ayahuasca, they preferred substantiated regulation of it.
Conclusions: No deterioration of mental health or quality of life in ayahuasca users was found. Differences found in their personality were moderate and benign. Users described their ayahuasca use as a serious spiritual practice that is mostly beneficial to their health and life.
Keywords: ayahuasca, psychedelics, ceremony, mental health, altered states of consciousness, personality, quality of life."
http://kodu.ut.ee/~hellex/aya/Ayaeng.htm
http://kodu.ut.ee/~hellex/aya/Ayamag12a.pdf
http://kodu.ut.ee/~hellex/aya/AyaKaitsmine.ppt
"Objectives: The study aimed to describe psychology of ayahuasca users in Estonia. Their lifestyle, motivation for ayahuasca use, use-related activities and experiences, also subjective consequences of use were described. Indicators of personality, life quality and mental health of users were compared to those of non-users. Safety of use and attitudes of users about societal regulation of ayahuasca use were studied.
Method: 30 ayahuasca users (15 female) and 30 matched non-users completed questionnaires, tests of personality (EE.PIP-NEO, SNAP-2) and mental health (EEK-2, MoCA, Raven Standard Matrices and MINI neuropsychiatric interview). Textual answers were summarized by topics. Test scores were statistically analyzed.
Results: Ayahuasca use in Estonia occurred mainly in group ceremonies under guidance of experienced facilitators. Main motives for ayahuasca use were spiritual development, self-knowledge and spiritual experiences. No deterioration of mental or physical health of ayahuasca users in comparison to non-users was found. No abuse of ayahuasca or addiction to it was found. Screening test indicators of depression and anxiety were lower in ayahuasca-using group. Life satisfaction and happiness about life were higher in the ayahuasca using group. Personality of ayahuasca users was characterized by moderately lower neuroticism, higher openness and higher agreeability compared to test norms. Ayahuasca-using group had higher indicator of impulsivity and lower indicators of aggressiveness and propriety. Users see their use of ayahuasca as a serious and challenging spiritual practice that has mostly good influences on their mental health, social adjustment and personal development. Ceremonies were conducted in reasonably safe settings and users were aware of safety rules. Most users were dissatisfied with illegal status of ayahuasca, they preferred substantiated regulation of it.
Conclusions: No deterioration of mental health or quality of life in ayahuasca users was found. Differences found in their personality were moderate and benign. Users described their ayahuasca use as a serious spiritual practice that is mostly beneficial to their health and life.
Keywords: ayahuasca, psychedelics, ceremony, mental health, altered states of consciousness, personality, quality of life."
http://kodu.ut.ee/~hellex/aya/Ayaeng.htm
http://kodu.ut.ee/~hellex/aya/Ayamag12a.pdf
http://kodu.ut.ee/~hellex/aya/AyaKaitsmine.ppt
6 July 2016 19:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Helle Kaasik " Villu Päärti artiklis toodud kogemusekirjeldused on paraku küll ajakirjaniku enda lopsaka fantaasia viljad, aga ega ma väga ei imestaks, kui keegi tõepoolest ayahuasca mõjul midagi sellist kogeks. Psühhedeelikumi mõju all võib inimene tõesti kogeda kõike, mida ta kujutleda suudab ja veel palju rohkematki. Tegelike ayahuasca tarvitajate kogemuste kirjeldusi võib leida näiteks minu selleteemalisest magistritööst (vt http://kodu.ut.ee/~hellex/aya/).
Ma ei arva, et teadvuse seisundite ruum koosneks mingi müüriga piiratud "kainest igavast reaalsusest" ja selle müüri tagusest kummalisest hämarast ekstreemalast. Teadvuse seisund muutub pidevalt ja neid muutusi võib olla väga mitmesuguseid. Tavalise ja muutunud seisundi vahel ei ole müüri samamoodi nagu pole müüri kodumaa ja välismaa vahel. Mõistlikul viisil maailmas ringi reisides ju ei pea pidevalt kartma, et äkki pannakse piir kinni ja siis ei saagi enam tagasi. Nii siin- kui sealpool kokkuleppelist piiri leidub palju ilusat ja huvitavat, aga on ka selliseid kohti, kuhu on targem mitte ronida. Reisisihi ja -viisi valimise ja oma tee leidmise oskus tuleb kogemustega. Nagu ikka, õpivad targemad inimesed ka teiste kogemusest ja valmistuvad oma reisideks mõistliku hoolikusega.
Psühhedeelikumide ärakeelamisel oli palju teisi ajaloolisi ja poliitilisi põhjusi peale selle, et "lollid massid tegid sellest lihtlabase narkootikumi". Ma arvan, et nende ainete ärakeelamine nende uurimise ja reguleerimise asemel ei olnud tark tegu. Jah, psühhedeelikumide ja veel väga paljude asjadega saab inimene endale asjatundmatul tarvitamisel liiga teha, aga neid kõiki ära keelata ei ole ei mõistlik ega võimalik. Õnneks on psühhedeelikumide teaduslik uurimine viimasel aastakümnel maailmas hästi taaselustunud (vt http://www.maps.org/). Keda psühhedeelia tõsiselt huvitab, võiks oma arusaama kujundamiseks lugeda pigem selleteemalisi teadusartikleid kui "lollidele massidele" kirjutavat ajalehte. Võib loota, et aja jooksul jõuavad saadud teadustulemused ka seadustesse ja praktikasse.
Helle Kaasik (helle.kaasik@ut.ee)
Ma ei arva, et teadvuse seisundite ruum koosneks mingi müüriga piiratud "kainest igavast reaalsusest" ja selle müüri tagusest kummalisest hämarast ekstreemalast. Teadvuse seisund muutub pidevalt ja neid muutusi võib olla väga mitmesuguseid. Tavalise ja muutunud seisundi vahel ei ole müüri samamoodi nagu pole müüri kodumaa ja välismaa vahel. Mõistlikul viisil maailmas ringi reisides ju ei pea pidevalt kartma, et äkki pannakse piir kinni ja siis ei saagi enam tagasi. Nii siin- kui sealpool kokkuleppelist piiri leidub palju ilusat ja huvitavat, aga on ka selliseid kohti, kuhu on targem mitte ronida. Reisisihi ja -viisi valimise ja oma tee leidmise oskus tuleb kogemustega. Nagu ikka, õpivad targemad inimesed ka teiste kogemusest ja valmistuvad oma reisideks mõistliku hoolikusega.
Psühhedeelikumide ärakeelamisel oli palju teisi ajaloolisi ja poliitilisi põhjusi peale selle, et "lollid massid tegid sellest lihtlabase narkootikumi". Ma arvan, et nende ainete ärakeelamine nende uurimise ja reguleerimise asemel ei olnud tark tegu. Jah, psühhedeelikumide ja veel väga paljude asjadega saab inimene endale asjatundmatul tarvitamisel liiga teha, aga neid kõiki ära keelata ei ole ei mõistlik ega võimalik. Õnneks on psühhedeelikumide teaduslik uurimine viimasel aastakümnel maailmas hästi taaselustunud (vt http://www.maps.org/). Keda psühhedeelia tõsiselt huvitab, võiks oma arusaama kujundamiseks lugeda pigem selleteemalisi teadusartikleid kui "lollidele massidele" kirjutavat ajalehte. Võib loota, et aja jooksul jõuavad saadud teadustulemused ka seadustesse ja praktikasse.
Helle Kaasik (helle.kaasik@ut.ee)
6 July 2016 19:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Tänases Ekspressis kirjeldab füüsik Helle Kaasik seisundeid, mida ta koges Brasiilia “nõiajooki” ayahuasca’t manustades. Liaaniväädist valmistatud psühhedeelse toimega droogi joomine on üks paljudest teadvuse laiendamise viisidest."
TIINA JÕGEDA
Milleks inimesele teadvuse laiendamine?
Vaimseteks ekstreemsusteks on palju võimalusi.
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/elu/milleks-inimesele-teadvuse-laiendamine?id=73692359
TIINA JÕGEDA
Milleks inimesele teadvuse laiendamine?
Vaimseteks ekstreemsusteks on palju võimalusi.
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/elu/milleks-inimesele-teadvuse-laiendamine?id=73692359
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/elu/milleks-inimesele-teadvuse-laiendamine?id=73692359
6 July 2016 19:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja muidugi:
"With Diamonds 04.05.2016 13:58
Jalgrattafriigid linnaliikluses ongi nagu pideva laksu all, iial ei või teada, mida nad järgmiseks teevad. "
xD
"With Diamonds 04.05.2016 13:58
Jalgrattafriigid linnaliikluses ongi nagu pideva laksu all, iial ei või teada, mida nad järgmiseks teevad. "
xD
6 July 2016 19:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lisakomm:
"LSD ei ole narkootiukm vaid hallutsinogeen. Sellest ei ole võimalik füüsilisse sõltuvusse jääda. See kas meeldib või ei. Füüsiline sõltuvus pole võimalik juba ainuüksi seepärast, et seda igapäevaselt manustades see lihtsalt ei tööta (lihsalt seletades, ajus saab aine otsa ja läheb aega enne kui aju uue koguse sünteesib). Aastas korra võib teha. Negatiivse poolena on pärast väsimus. Huvitav oli see, et neutraliseeris alkoholi toime, ma jõin poolteist pudelit viina ära ja midagi tundnud."
// (muidugi see omamoodi asi mida ei soovita,alko ja LSD, kuid tean ise ühele väga sügavalt pikalt joobes olnud pohhusitile andes, kes puhanu ja rõõmsalt heatahtliku selgusega järgmine päev tänama tuli, et nägi elus ilu ja mõtet uuesti. )
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"Teevadki, liiga targaks et poliitpankurite sõda ja meeletut tarbimist sugereeriv ajupesu ei mõju enam nii hästi. Sellepärast see ära keelatigi USAs."
"Ära keelati see ravimifirmade survel - mis saaks tööstuse kasumist kui terveks ravimiseks piisab 25-75 mikrogrammist ainest ühekordselt? Ja aine ise ei ole patendiga kaitstav alates aastast 1963.
LSD psühhoteraapia tulemused olid tööstuse jaoks katastroofilised just selle asjaolu tõttu."
"Tegelikult on juba ammu teada, et LSD, GHB, seened ja kanep mõjuvad positiivselt inimese arengule. Aga meie IRLi juhitud justiitsüsteem paneb nende ainete manustajad armetult vangi. Loogiliselt mõeldes, tuleks terve justiitsüsteem vangi panna, sest nad käituvad nagu NKVD vanasti, panevad armetult inimesi vangi ravimtaime manustamise eest. Äituma, Reinsalu."
"Ghb mõjub hästi?"
// (tähelepanekus olev trippster...)
"Probleem on lihtsalt selles, et nad ei saa maksutada neid mõnuained, siis lihtsalt keelavad ning trahv peale.
Näitena oli USA's samuti keelatud, kuni valitsus hakkas ise seda müüma. Praeguse seisuga on 23s osariigis kanep lubatud.
Eesti kasutab vana head Vene taktikat, ehk teeb lihtsalt ajupesu ning nõdrameelsemad, kes ainult meediast infot ammutavad usuvadki seda."
"Sinusugused muudavad raskeks narkootikumide teemalised arutelud sest sa ei tea teemast halligi aga käitud nagu oleksid spetsialist.
Need neli narkootikumi on kõik üsna erinevad ning GHB võib samahästi vahetada amfetamiini või kokaiiniga, sest teise kolmega ta küll võrreldav ei ole...
Kõigil neil on positiivseid efekte aga ka negatiivseid. See miks üks või teine aine keelatud on küll peaaegu täielikult poliitiline otsus aga see ei tähenda et mainitud ained oleksid ohutud. Isegi tavameditsiinis on kõikidel tugeva toimega rohtudel kõrvalnähud."
"Lisaks veel, et selle ravimtaime kahjulikkuse tõestamiseks on korraldatud kümneid tuhandeid uuringuid ja kulutatud miljardeid dollareid NIDA grante, ilma VÄHIMAGI tulemuseta - ainus kahjulikkus mis on tegelikult olemas, on see mida teeb teile politsei ja prokuratuur!
Eesti on EL-i repressiivseima karistuspoliitikaga politseiriik, mis jõustab mongoli toorusega seadusi millest on kasu ainult vene maffial ja FSB-l (see on tegelikult suuresti sama asi).
Kui nüüd keegi naiivne küsib, miks siis kanep kelatud on, kui kahjulikkuse tõestamine läbi kukkus, siis vastuse leiab googeldades nime Harry J. Anslinger - ta leiab kindlasti üles tsitaadid mille najal keeluseadus aastal 1937. aastal USA kongressist läbi suruti."
"Ütlen ausalt, see on vist ainuke narkootikum, mida tahaks oma elujooksul ära proovida. Ise muidu ei suitseta ega joo."
"LSD ei ole narkootikum vaid psühhedeelikum - see ei tekita sõltuvust. Kui korra aastas proovid, siis sellest piisab, sest aju saab sellise infolaksu - räägivad need kes on proovinud. Isiklik kogemus puudub."
"Kas sellega saab ravida ka seksuaalhälbeid?"
// (jah, saab küll)
"See annab lootust,et kõike ei saa purki panna ja ette anda."
"Üks kommenteerija siin väidab, et LSD ei ole narkootikum, vaid psühhedeelikum. See ei ole siiski päris õige. Narkootikum by definition ongi aine, mis muudab mingil moel inimese taju vms. Inglise keeles: A drug is any substance other than food, that when inhaled, injected, smoked, consumed, absorbed via a patch on the skin or dissolved under the tongue causes a physiological change in the body.
Seega LSD on 100% narkootikum, kuid probleem ongi pigem selles, et enamus inimesi automaatselt mõtlevad, et see, mis on narkootikum, on kohe ka halb. Ei ole nii. Muidugi keegi ei eita, et liigub väga palju ohtlikke narkootikume ning ilmselt 100% ohutuid polegi olemas. Kuid LSD koos "maagiliste seente" ja kanepiga kuuluvad kindlasti pigem soft drug-ide alla. :)"
"Kui juba kord täpsustamiseks läks, siis panen oma versiooni ka kirja - narkootikum on kriminaalpoliitiline mõiste, sõna mis ei tähenda tegelikult mitte midagi, peale selle, et kasutajaid võib represseerida ja dehumaniseerida täpselt samal viisil nagu varasemalt on dehumaniseeritud juute ja nõidu.
Ainete biokeemiliste omadustega ei ole sellel midagi tegemist, sest täpselt samad keemilised molekulid võivad olla ühtaegu nii narkootikumid kui ka 6 aastastele lastele sobivad ravimid. Näiteks Adderall on amfetamiin, kui seda osta tänavalt, siis on narkootikum ja kui seda teie lapsele välja kirjutatakse, siis ravim. Ja selle "ravimi" lastele söötmine on tugevas tõusvas trendis nüüd ka Eestis.
Samuti on ilmselge, et ka aine ohtlikkusega ei ole vähimatki seost, sest muidu oleks ju alkohol keelatud narkootikum - mitte ükski narkokriminaalpoliitikaga reguleeritav aine ei saa alkoholi kahjulikkusele ligilähedalegi, eriti kui võtta arvesse ka mõju jooja lähikondsetele ja üldse kõigile inimestele kes joodiku teele juhtuvad."
"LSD ei ole narkootiukm vaid hallutsinogeen. Sellest ei ole võimalik füüsilisse sõltuvusse jääda. See kas meeldib või ei. Füüsiline sõltuvus pole võimalik juba ainuüksi seepärast, et seda igapäevaselt manustades see lihtsalt ei tööta (lihsalt seletades, ajus saab aine otsa ja läheb aega enne kui aju uue koguse sünteesib). Aastas korra võib teha. Negatiivse poolena on pärast väsimus. Huvitav oli see, et neutraliseeris alkoholi toime, ma jõin poolteist pudelit viina ära ja midagi tundnud."
// (muidugi see omamoodi asi mida ei soovita,alko ja LSD, kuid tean ise ühele väga sügavalt pikalt joobes olnud pohhusitile andes, kes puhanu ja rõõmsalt heatahtliku selgusega järgmine päev tänama tuli, et nägi elus ilu ja mõtet uuesti. )
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"Teevadki, liiga targaks et poliitpankurite sõda ja meeletut tarbimist sugereeriv ajupesu ei mõju enam nii hästi. Sellepärast see ära keelatigi USAs."
"Ära keelati see ravimifirmade survel - mis saaks tööstuse kasumist kui terveks ravimiseks piisab 25-75 mikrogrammist ainest ühekordselt? Ja aine ise ei ole patendiga kaitstav alates aastast 1963.
LSD psühhoteraapia tulemused olid tööstuse jaoks katastroofilised just selle asjaolu tõttu."
"Tegelikult on juba ammu teada, et LSD, GHB, seened ja kanep mõjuvad positiivselt inimese arengule. Aga meie IRLi juhitud justiitsüsteem paneb nende ainete manustajad armetult vangi. Loogiliselt mõeldes, tuleks terve justiitsüsteem vangi panna, sest nad käituvad nagu NKVD vanasti, panevad armetult inimesi vangi ravimtaime manustamise eest. Äituma, Reinsalu."
"Ghb mõjub hästi?"
// (tähelepanekus olev trippster...)
"Probleem on lihtsalt selles, et nad ei saa maksutada neid mõnuained, siis lihtsalt keelavad ning trahv peale.
Näitena oli USA's samuti keelatud, kuni valitsus hakkas ise seda müüma. Praeguse seisuga on 23s osariigis kanep lubatud.
Eesti kasutab vana head Vene taktikat, ehk teeb lihtsalt ajupesu ning nõdrameelsemad, kes ainult meediast infot ammutavad usuvadki seda."
"Sinusugused muudavad raskeks narkootikumide teemalised arutelud sest sa ei tea teemast halligi aga käitud nagu oleksid spetsialist.
Need neli narkootikumi on kõik üsna erinevad ning GHB võib samahästi vahetada amfetamiini või kokaiiniga, sest teise kolmega ta küll võrreldav ei ole...
Kõigil neil on positiivseid efekte aga ka negatiivseid. See miks üks või teine aine keelatud on küll peaaegu täielikult poliitiline otsus aga see ei tähenda et mainitud ained oleksid ohutud. Isegi tavameditsiinis on kõikidel tugeva toimega rohtudel kõrvalnähud."
"Lisaks veel, et selle ravimtaime kahjulikkuse tõestamiseks on korraldatud kümneid tuhandeid uuringuid ja kulutatud miljardeid dollareid NIDA grante, ilma VÄHIMAGI tulemuseta - ainus kahjulikkus mis on tegelikult olemas, on see mida teeb teile politsei ja prokuratuur!
Eesti on EL-i repressiivseima karistuspoliitikaga politseiriik, mis jõustab mongoli toorusega seadusi millest on kasu ainult vene maffial ja FSB-l (see on tegelikult suuresti sama asi).
Kui nüüd keegi naiivne küsib, miks siis kanep kelatud on, kui kahjulikkuse tõestamine läbi kukkus, siis vastuse leiab googeldades nime Harry J. Anslinger - ta leiab kindlasti üles tsitaadid mille najal keeluseadus aastal 1937. aastal USA kongressist läbi suruti."
"Ütlen ausalt, see on vist ainuke narkootikum, mida tahaks oma elujooksul ära proovida. Ise muidu ei suitseta ega joo."
"LSD ei ole narkootikum vaid psühhedeelikum - see ei tekita sõltuvust. Kui korra aastas proovid, siis sellest piisab, sest aju saab sellise infolaksu - räägivad need kes on proovinud. Isiklik kogemus puudub."
"Kas sellega saab ravida ka seksuaalhälbeid?"
// (jah, saab küll)
"See annab lootust,et kõike ei saa purki panna ja ette anda."
"Üks kommenteerija siin väidab, et LSD ei ole narkootikum, vaid psühhedeelikum. See ei ole siiski päris õige. Narkootikum by definition ongi aine, mis muudab mingil moel inimese taju vms. Inglise keeles: A drug is any substance other than food, that when inhaled, injected, smoked, consumed, absorbed via a patch on the skin or dissolved under the tongue causes a physiological change in the body.
Seega LSD on 100% narkootikum, kuid probleem ongi pigem selles, et enamus inimesi automaatselt mõtlevad, et see, mis on narkootikum, on kohe ka halb. Ei ole nii. Muidugi keegi ei eita, et liigub väga palju ohtlikke narkootikume ning ilmselt 100% ohutuid polegi olemas. Kuid LSD koos "maagiliste seente" ja kanepiga kuuluvad kindlasti pigem soft drug-ide alla. :)"
"Kui juba kord täpsustamiseks läks, siis panen oma versiooni ka kirja - narkootikum on kriminaalpoliitiline mõiste, sõna mis ei tähenda tegelikult mitte midagi, peale selle, et kasutajaid võib represseerida ja dehumaniseerida täpselt samal viisil nagu varasemalt on dehumaniseeritud juute ja nõidu.
Ainete biokeemiliste omadustega ei ole sellel midagi tegemist, sest täpselt samad keemilised molekulid võivad olla ühtaegu nii narkootikumid kui ka 6 aastastele lastele sobivad ravimid. Näiteks Adderall on amfetamiin, kui seda osta tänavalt, siis on narkootikum ja kui seda teie lapsele välja kirjutatakse, siis ravim. Ja selle "ravimi" lastele söötmine on tugevas tõusvas trendis nüüd ka Eestis.
Samuti on ilmselge, et ka aine ohtlikkusega ei ole vähimatki seost, sest muidu oleks ju alkohol keelatud narkootikum - mitte ükski narkokriminaalpoliitikaga reguleeritav aine ei saa alkoholi kahjulikkusele ligilähedalegi, eriti kui võtta arvesse ka mõju jooja lähikondsetele ja üldse kõigile inimestele kes joodiku teele juhtuvad."
6 July 2016 19:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
KOmmentaarid:
1) Ah Sooo "Jälle selline tore narkoreklaam meile "piiratud ajutegevusega inimestele" aga tahate näha laiemat pilti?"
vastus
2) Allan Kiik "Narkoreklaami näevad selles artiklis ainult väga piiratud ajutegevusega "inimesed".
Ajutegevuse piirangud aga tulenevad ilmselt ohtrast tervisejoogi (C2H5OH )tarvitamisest (ega nad ju mingid narkomanid ei ole). "
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Priceless : )
1) Ah Sooo "Jälle selline tore narkoreklaam meile "piiratud ajutegevusega inimestele" aga tahate näha laiemat pilti?"
vastus
2) Allan Kiik "Narkoreklaami näevad selles artiklis ainult väga piiratud ajutegevusega "inimesed".
Ajutegevuse piirangud aga tulenevad ilmselt ohtrast tervisejoogi (C2H5OH )tarvitamisest (ega nad ju mingid narkomanid ei ole). "
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Priceless : )
6 July 2016 19:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Endine Ühendkuningriigi uimastinõunik, Imperial College Londoni neuropsühhofarmakoloogia professor ning uurimuse juhtivaid autoreid David Nutt ütles, et neuroloogid on seda hetke oodanud 50 aastat, kirjutab ajaveeb Kanepitemp."
“See tähendab neuroteaduse jaoks sama, mida Higgsi boson osakestefüüsika jaoks. Seni ei teadnud me, kuidas LSD vapustavad mõjud avalduvad. Seda oli liiga keeruline uurida. Teadlased kas olid liiga hirmul või ei soovinud seesuguseid uuringuid pärssivate meeletute takistuste ületamisega vaeva näha.“
Prof Nutt ja tema kolleeg Robin Carhart-Harris palusid kahtkümmet hea kehalise ja vaimse tervise juures vabatahtlikul katsealusel külastada kliinikut kahel päeval. Ühe külaskäigu ajal süstiti neile 75 mikrogrammi LSD-d, teisel korral platseebot.
Kolme eri ajukuvamistehnika — arteriaalse vere spinnide märgistamise (ingl arterial spin labelling), puhkeseisundi-magnetvõnke-tomograafia (resting state MRI) ja magnetoentsefalograafia — abil mõõtsid teadlased verevoolu katsealuste ajudes, funktsionaalseid sidemeid ajuvõrgustike sees ja nende vahel ning ajulaineid nii psühhedeelse aine mõju all kui ka normaalolekus.
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// (et inimene hirmu ega jõulisust vägivaldsust ega üleliigset erutust ei tunneks ehk..)
"LSD ehk lüsergiinhappe dietüülamiidi mõju all tihenesid oluliselt sidemed nägemise, tähelepanu, liikumise ja kuulmisega seotud ajuvõrgustike vahel.
Samal ajal aga lakkasid töötamast mõned teised võrgustikud — entsefalogrammidel oli näha sidemete kadumine parahipokampuse ja mõhnkeha (corpus callosum) mõiga taguse ajukoore-piirkonna (retrosplenial cortex) vahel."
“See tähendab neuroteaduse jaoks sama, mida Higgsi boson osakestefüüsika jaoks. Seni ei teadnud me, kuidas LSD vapustavad mõjud avalduvad. Seda oli liiga keeruline uurida. Teadlased kas olid liiga hirmul või ei soovinud seesuguseid uuringuid pärssivate meeletute takistuste ületamisega vaeva näha.“
Prof Nutt ja tema kolleeg Robin Carhart-Harris palusid kahtkümmet hea kehalise ja vaimse tervise juures vabatahtlikul katsealusel külastada kliinikut kahel päeval. Ühe külaskäigu ajal süstiti neile 75 mikrogrammi LSD-d, teisel korral platseebot.
Kolme eri ajukuvamistehnika — arteriaalse vere spinnide märgistamise (ingl arterial spin labelling), puhkeseisundi-magnetvõnke-tomograafia (resting state MRI) ja magnetoentsefalograafia — abil mõõtsid teadlased verevoolu katsealuste ajudes, funktsionaalseid sidemeid ajuvõrgustike sees ja nende vahel ning ajulaineid nii psühhedeelse aine mõju all kui ka normaalolekus.
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// (et inimene hirmu ega jõulisust vägivaldsust ega üleliigset erutust ei tunneks ehk..)
"LSD ehk lüsergiinhappe dietüülamiidi mõju all tihenesid oluliselt sidemed nägemise, tähelepanu, liikumise ja kuulmisega seotud ajuvõrgustike vahel.
Samal ajal aga lakkasid töötamast mõned teised võrgustikud — entsefalogrammidel oli näha sidemete kadumine parahipokampuse ja mõhnkeha (corpus callosum) mõiga taguse ajukoore-piirkonna (retrosplenial cortex) vahel."
6 July 2016 19:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Võib öelda, et LSD tühistab ajutiselt sellise piiratuma mõtlemise, mis areneb inimestel välja väikelapsest täiskasvanuks kujunemise käigus, selgitas prof Nutt, kelle uurimus ilmus žurnaalis Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
Uurimuse tulemused võivad aidata kaasa LSD või sellesarnaste kemikaalide kasutamise juurutamisele psühhiaatriliste häirete ravis. Nutti osutusel võib LSD mõju ajusisestele närvivõrgustikele lammutada depressiooni ja sõltuvuskäitumisega seonduvaid mõtlemismustreid.
Uurimuse toetuseks rahvarahastuskampaania korraldanud psühhoaktiivsete ainete uurimise sihtasutuse Beckley Foundation direktor Amanda Fielding märkis: „Me hakkame viimaks ometi avastama ajumehhanisme, mis on aluseks LSD potentsiaalile mitte ainult ravida, vaid ka täiendada meie arusaamist inimteadvuse olemusest.“"
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19. aprillil tähistavad neuropsühhofarmakoloogia entusiastid kogu maailmas nn jalgrattapäeva (Bicycle Day).
Nimelt manustas Šveitsi keemik Albert Hofmann just sel kuupäeval 1943. aastal enda arvates väikese koguse (250 mikrogrammi) tungalterast sünteesitud ühendit LSD-25. Aine hakkas talle mõjuma teel laboratooriumist koju jalgrattasadulas.
http://forte.delfi.ee/news/teadus/teadlased-uurisid-lsd-mojusid-esmakordselt-ajuskanneritega?id=74216415
Uurimuse tulemused võivad aidata kaasa LSD või sellesarnaste kemikaalide kasutamise juurutamisele psühhiaatriliste häirete ravis. Nutti osutusel võib LSD mõju ajusisestele närvivõrgustikele lammutada depressiooni ja sõltuvuskäitumisega seonduvaid mõtlemismustreid.
Uurimuse toetuseks rahvarahastuskampaania korraldanud psühhoaktiivsete ainete uurimise sihtasutuse Beckley Foundation direktor Amanda Fielding märkis: „Me hakkame viimaks ometi avastama ajumehhanisme, mis on aluseks LSD potentsiaalile mitte ainult ravida, vaid ka täiendada meie arusaamist inimteadvuse olemusest.“"
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19. aprillil tähistavad neuropsühhofarmakoloogia entusiastid kogu maailmas nn jalgrattapäeva (Bicycle Day).
Nimelt manustas Šveitsi keemik Albert Hofmann just sel kuupäeval 1943. aastal enda arvates väikese koguse (250 mikrogrammi) tungalterast sünteesitud ühendit LSD-25. Aine hakkas talle mõjuma teel laboratooriumist koju jalgrattasadulas.
http://forte.delfi.ee/news/teadus/teadlased-uurisid-lsd-mojusid-esmakordselt-ajuskanneritega?id=74216415
http://forte.delfi.ee/news/teadus/teadlased-uurisid-lsd-mojusid-esmakordselt-ajuskanneritega?id=74216415
6 July 2016 19:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
6 July 2016 18:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/04/13/exp-lsd-researcher.cnn
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2016/04/13/exp-lsd-researcher.cnn
6 July 2016 18:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/12/health/lsd-brain-imaging/
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/12/health/lsd-brain-imaging/
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/12/health/lsd-brain-imaging/
6 July 2016 17:02
Margus Meigo replied to Dianna Linden's comment.
Thank You for nice reply Diana,
I just meant promoting the beast sing,
leaves wrong impression for first time visitors of what kind of friends one has... and really.. did You not know what this sing most likely, more often promotes, is related to and symbolizes?
You do know a bit right ?
Is That Kind of spirituality, related some way to Ralph Abraham work or person, community?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sign_of_the_horns
http://www.humanhand.com/articles/hornedhand.html
Is not like Ralph is from The University of Texas at Austin
I just meant promoting the beast sing,
leaves wrong impression for first time visitors of what kind of friends one has... and really.. did You not know what this sing most likely, more often promotes, is related to and symbolizes?
You do know a bit right ?
Is That Kind of spirituality, related some way to Ralph Abraham work or person, community?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sign_of_the_horns
http://www.humanhand.com/articles/hornedhand.html
Is not like Ralph is from The University of Texas at Austin
4 July 2016 22:53
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
or kids like that :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T_obaO46Bo
But kid got some points thought :p
where in a world they pile up all this food
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T_obaO46Bo
But kid got some points thought :p
where in a world they pile up all this food
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T_obaO46Bo
4 July 2016 22:36
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
should not be,
perhaps also not kitchens like that..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjV5QH57lGs
perhaps also not kitchens like that..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjV5QH57lGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjV5QH57lGs
4 July 2016 22:32
Margus Meigo commented on Ralph Abraham's post.
Also will have to forward this to a hasid community https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os43HTIoGxc
#jew #juudid #hippy #chabad #hipsters #60s #hasid
#jew #juudid #hippy #chabad #hipsters #60s #hasid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os43HTIoGxc
4 July 2016 22:26
Margus Meigo replied to Dianna Linden's comment.
why would You share THIS in here? Are You serious ?
4 July 2016 22:24
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
Like Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia ?
Colours of FSB (Russia) or who had it before this?
who had the meaning for Blue or Red before, and what means the White ?
Or France Culture ? Who else..
Colours of FSB (Russia) or who had it before this?
who had the meaning for Blue or Red before, and what means the White ?
Or France Culture ? Who else..
4 July 2016 21:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
more about Greek liberal machine view.. to digitalize your soul..
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/syntellectemergence?source=feed_text&story_id=1801726910062745
people talking abut making universes but... first should we able to make what God wish
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/syntellectemergence?source=feed_text&story_id=1801726910062745
people talking abut making universes but... first should we able to make what God wish
3 July 2016 12:36
Margus Meigo commented on Ecstadelic Media's video.
People clearly needs to spend more time in Nature, build a house by their own club, that can withstand winter and food fields...
adding some #jewish #hebrew knowledge and #shamanism ..
adding some #jewish #hebrew knowledge and #shamanism ..
3 July 2016 12:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Here is good start for the last link mentioned fight between animal vs human https://www.facebook.com/losvideoshdmasspichs/videos/1233364280030162/?pnref=story
It is kind of turned in to TV Show.. but can You imagine. .every week, some animals vs some bad ass people.. who like to beat up Nature... will challenge.. this will have a lot of pay-per views to see first shoot
(related to laboratory fighting animals, humans for sure will start to produce in some point of time )
Mix of sad irony and ... in here but
It is kind of turned in to TV Show.. but can You imagine. .every week, some animals vs some bad ass people.. who like to beat up Nature... will challenge.. this will have a lot of pay-per views to see first shoot
(related to laboratory fighting animals, humans for sure will start to produce in some point of time )
Mix of sad irony and ... in here but
2 July 2016 08:36
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here are stories in Buddhism where the power of resurrection was allegedly demonstrated in Chan or Zen tradition. One is the legend of Bodhidharma, the Indian master who brought the Ekayana school of India to China that subsequently became Chan Buddhism.
The other is the passing of Chinese Chan master Puhua (J., Fuke) and is recounted in the Record of Linji (J., Rinzai). Puhua was known for his unusual behavior and teaching style so it is no wonder that he is associated with an event that breaks the usual prohibition on displaying such powers. Here is the account from Irmgard Schloegl's "The Zen Teaching of Rinzai".
"One day at the street market Fuke was begging all and sundry to give him a robe. Everybody offered him one, but he did not want any of them. The master [Linji] made the superior buy a coffin, and when Fuke returned, said to him: "There, I had this robe made for you." Fuke shouldered the coffin, and went back to the street market, calling loudly: "Rinzai had this robe made for me! I am off to the East Gate to enter transformation" (to die)." The people of the market crowded after him, eager to look. Fuke said: "No, not today. Tomorrow, I shall go to the South Gate to enter transformation." And so for three days. Nobody believed it any longer. On the fourth day, and now without any spectators, Fuke went alone outside the city walls, and laid himself into the coffin. He asked a traveler who chanced by to nail down the lid.
The news spread at once, and the people of the market rushed there. On opening the coffin, they found that the body had vanished, but from high up in the sky they heard the ring of his hand bell
The other is the passing of Chinese Chan master Puhua (J., Fuke) and is recounted in the Record of Linji (J., Rinzai). Puhua was known for his unusual behavior and teaching style so it is no wonder that he is associated with an event that breaks the usual prohibition on displaying such powers. Here is the account from Irmgard Schloegl's "The Zen Teaching of Rinzai".
"One day at the street market Fuke was begging all and sundry to give him a robe. Everybody offered him one, but he did not want any of them. The master [Linji] made the superior buy a coffin, and when Fuke returned, said to him: "There, I had this robe made for you." Fuke shouldered the coffin, and went back to the street market, calling loudly: "Rinzai had this robe made for me! I am off to the East Gate to enter transformation" (to die)." The people of the market crowded after him, eager to look. Fuke said: "No, not today. Tomorrow, I shall go to the South Gate to enter transformation." And so for three days. Nobody believed it any longer. On the fourth day, and now without any spectators, Fuke went alone outside the city walls, and laid himself into the coffin. He asked a traveler who chanced by to nail down the lid.
The news spread at once, and the people of the market rushed there. On opening the coffin, they found that the body had vanished, but from high up in the sky they heard the ring of his hand bell
2 July 2016 08:07
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Of-curse there is also a FSB (Russia) Greek-Roman Perfilyev view:
Technological resurrection
Cryonics is the low-temperature preservation of humans who cannot be sustained by contemporary medicine, with the hope that healing and resuscitation may be possible in the future
Russian Cosmist Nikolai Fyodorovich Fyodorov advocated resurrection of the dead using scientific methods. Fedorov tried to plan specific actions for scientific research of the possibility of restoring life and making it infinite. His first project is connected with collecting and synthesizing decayed remains of dead based on "knowledge and control over all atoms and molecules of the world". The second method described by Fedorov is genetic-hereditary. The revival could be done successively in the ancestral line: sons and daughters restore their fathers and mothers, they in turn restore their parents and so on. This means restoring the ancestors using the hereditary information that they passed on to their children
Using this genetic method it is only possible to create a genetic twin of the dead person. It is necessary to give back the revived person his old mind, his personality. Fedorov speculates about the idea of "radial images" that may contain the personalities of the people and survive after death. Nevertheless, Fedorov noted that even if a soul is destroyed after death, Man will learn to restore it whole by mastering the forces of decay and fragmentation
In his 1994 book The Physics of Immortality, physicist Frank J. Tipler, an expert on the general theory of relativity, presented his Omega Point Theory which outlines how a resurrection of the dead could take place at the end of the cosmos. He posits that humans will evolve into robots which will turn the entire cosmos into a supercomputer which will, shortly before the big crunch, perform the resurrection within its cyberspace, reconstructing formerly dead humans (from information captured by the supercomputer from the past light cone of the cosmos) as avatars within its metaverse
David Deutsch, British physicist and pioneer in the field of quantum computing, agrees with Tipler's Omega Point cosmology and the idea of resurrecting deceased people with the help of quantum computers[33] but he is critical of Tipler's theological views.
Italian physicist and computer scientist Giulio Prisco presents the idea of "quantum archaeology", "reconstructing the life, thoughts, memories and feelings of any person in the past, up to any desired level of detail, and thus resurrecting the original person via 'copying to the future.'"
In his book Mind Children, roboticist Hans Moravec proposed that a future supercomputer might be able to resurrect long-dead minds from the information that still survived. This information can be memories, filmstrips, medical records, DNA..
Ray Kurzweil, American inventor and futurist, believes that when his concept of singularity comes to pass, it will be possible to resurrect the dead by digital recreation.
In their science fiction novel The Light of Other Days, Sir Arthur Clarke and Stephen Baxter imagine a future civilization resurrecting the dead of past ages by reaching into the past, through micro wormholes and with nanorobots, to download full snapshots of brain states and memories.[38]
Both the Church of Perpetual Life and the Terasem Movement consider themselves transreligions and advocate for the use of technology to indefinitely extend the human lifespan
Next section: Zombies...
Technological resurrection
Cryonics is the low-temperature preservation of humans who cannot be sustained by contemporary medicine, with the hope that healing and resuscitation may be possible in the future
Russian Cosmist Nikolai Fyodorovich Fyodorov advocated resurrection of the dead using scientific methods. Fedorov tried to plan specific actions for scientific research of the possibility of restoring life and making it infinite. His first project is connected with collecting and synthesizing decayed remains of dead based on "knowledge and control over all atoms and molecules of the world". The second method described by Fedorov is genetic-hereditary. The revival could be done successively in the ancestral line: sons and daughters restore their fathers and mothers, they in turn restore their parents and so on. This means restoring the ancestors using the hereditary information that they passed on to their children
Using this genetic method it is only possible to create a genetic twin of the dead person. It is necessary to give back the revived person his old mind, his personality. Fedorov speculates about the idea of "radial images" that may contain the personalities of the people and survive after death. Nevertheless, Fedorov noted that even if a soul is destroyed after death, Man will learn to restore it whole by mastering the forces of decay and fragmentation
In his 1994 book The Physics of Immortality, physicist Frank J. Tipler, an expert on the general theory of relativity, presented his Omega Point Theory which outlines how a resurrection of the dead could take place at the end of the cosmos. He posits that humans will evolve into robots which will turn the entire cosmos into a supercomputer which will, shortly before the big crunch, perform the resurrection within its cyberspace, reconstructing formerly dead humans (from information captured by the supercomputer from the past light cone of the cosmos) as avatars within its metaverse
David Deutsch, British physicist and pioneer in the field of quantum computing, agrees with Tipler's Omega Point cosmology and the idea of resurrecting deceased people with the help of quantum computers[33] but he is critical of Tipler's theological views.
Italian physicist and computer scientist Giulio Prisco presents the idea of "quantum archaeology", "reconstructing the life, thoughts, memories and feelings of any person in the past, up to any desired level of detail, and thus resurrecting the original person via 'copying to the future.'"
In his book Mind Children, roboticist Hans Moravec proposed that a future supercomputer might be able to resurrect long-dead minds from the information that still survived. This information can be memories, filmstrips, medical records, DNA..
Ray Kurzweil, American inventor and futurist, believes that when his concept of singularity comes to pass, it will be possible to resurrect the dead by digital recreation.
In their science fiction novel The Light of Other Days, Sir Arthur Clarke and Stephen Baxter imagine a future civilization resurrecting the dead of past ages by reaching into the past, through micro wormholes and with nanorobots, to download full snapshots of brain states and memories.[38]
Both the Church of Perpetual Life and the Terasem Movement consider themselves transreligions and advocate for the use of technology to indefinitely extend the human lifespan
Next section: Zombies...
2 July 2016 08:06
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In Judaism and Samaritanism, it is believed that Yehowah, the God of Israel, will one day give "Teḥiyyat Ha-Metim" or "life to the dead", to the righteous. Judaists base this belief on the prophecies regarding the event in the Tanakh: the books of Yeshayahu, Yeḥez'qel, and Dani'el. Samaritans base it solely on a passage called the Ha'azeinu in the Torah, since they only accept the Torah and reject the rest of the Hebrew Bible. Judaists believe that both the righteous and the wicked who are deceased of this world will be given life and judged. They believe the righteous of Israel and the Noahide laws, of the righteous among the gentiles, will have eternal life on earth, while the wicked will be punished and executed. Samaritans believe that only the righteous of Israel will be resurrected and given eternal life on earth.
The Resurrection is a core belief of the Mishnah.[40] The belief in resurrection is expressed on all occasions in the Jewish liturgy; e.g., in the morning prayer Elohai Neshamah, in the Shemoneh 'Esreh and in the funeral services.[41] Maimonides made it the last of his thirteen articles of belief: "I firmly believe that there will take place a revival of the dead at a time which will please the Creator, blessed be His name."
Harry Sysling, in his 1996 study of Teḥiyyat ha-metim (Hebrew: "resurrection of the dead") in the Palestinian Targums, identifies a consistent usage of the term "second death" in texts of the Second Temple period and early Rabbinical writings, but not in the Hebrew Bible. "Second death" is identified with judgment, followed by resurrection from Gehinnom ("Gehenna") at the Last Day
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Jewish eschatology is concerned with events that will happen in the end of days, according to the Hebrew Bible and Jewish thought. This includes the ingathering of the exiled diaspora, the coming of Jewish Messiah, afterlife, and the revival of the dead Tsadikim.
In Judaism, end times are usually called the "end of days" (aḥarit ha-yamim, אחרית הימים), a phrase that appears several times in the Tanakh. The idea of a messianic age has a prominent place in Jewish thought, and is incorporated as part of the end of days.
Judaism addresses the end times in the Book of Daniel and numerous other prophetic passages in the Hebrew scriptures, and also in the Talmud, particularly Tractate Avodah Zarah.
The Resurrection is a core belief of the Mishnah.[40] The belief in resurrection is expressed on all occasions in the Jewish liturgy; e.g., in the morning prayer Elohai Neshamah, in the Shemoneh 'Esreh and in the funeral services.[41] Maimonides made it the last of his thirteen articles of belief: "I firmly believe that there will take place a revival of the dead at a time which will please the Creator, blessed be His name."
Harry Sysling, in his 1996 study of Teḥiyyat ha-metim (Hebrew: "resurrection of the dead") in the Palestinian Targums, identifies a consistent usage of the term "second death" in texts of the Second Temple period and early Rabbinical writings, but not in the Hebrew Bible. "Second death" is identified with judgment, followed by resurrection from Gehinnom ("Gehenna") at the Last Day
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Jewish eschatology is concerned with events that will happen in the end of days, according to the Hebrew Bible and Jewish thought. This includes the ingathering of the exiled diaspora, the coming of Jewish Messiah, afterlife, and the revival of the dead Tsadikim.
In Judaism, end times are usually called the "end of days" (aḥarit ha-yamim, אחרית הימים), a phrase that appears several times in the Tanakh. The idea of a messianic age has a prominent place in Jewish thought, and is incorporated as part of the end of days.
Judaism addresses the end times in the Book of Daniel and numerous other prophetic passages in the Hebrew scriptures, and also in the Talmud, particularly Tractate Avodah Zarah.
2 July 2016 07:57
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Contemporary Hindu eschatology is linked in the Vaishnavite tradition to the figure of Kalki, the tenth and last avatar of Vishnu before the age draws to a close who will reincarnate as Shiva simultaneously dissolves and regenerates the universe.
Most Hindus believe that the current period is the Kali Yuga, the last of four Yuga that make up the current age.
Kali Yuga (Devanāgarī: कलियुग [kəli juɡə], lit. "age of [the demon] Kali", or "age of vice") is the last of the four stages the world goes through as part of the cycle of yugas described in the Sanskrit scriptures, within the present Mahayuga. The other ages are called Satya Yuga, Treta Yuga, and Dvapara Yuga.
Kali Yuga is associated with the demon Kali (not to be confused with the goddess Kālī). The "Kali" of Kali Yuga means "strife", "discord", "quarrel" or "contention".
According to Puranic sources, Krishna's departure marks the end of Dvapara Yuga and the start of Kali Yuga, which is dated to 17/18 February 3102 BCE
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Each period has seen successive degeneration in the moral order, to the point that in the Kali Yuga quarrel and hypocrisy are the norm. In Hinduism, time is cyclic, consisting of cycles or "kalpas". Each kalpa lasts 4.1 - 8.2 billion years, which is a period of one full day and night for Brahma, who in turn will live for 311 trillion, 40 billion years. The cycle of birth, growth, decay, and renewal at the individual level finds its echo in the cosmic order, yet is affected by vagaries of divine intervention in Vaishnavite belief. Some Shaivites hold the view that Shiva is incessantly destroying and creating the world.
After this larger cycle, all of creation will contract to a singularity and then again will expand from that single point, as the ages continue in a religious fractal pattern
Most Hindus believe that the current period is the Kali Yuga, the last of four Yuga that make up the current age.
Kali Yuga (Devanāgarī: कलियुग [kəli juɡə], lit. "age of [the demon] Kali", or "age of vice") is the last of the four stages the world goes through as part of the cycle of yugas described in the Sanskrit scriptures, within the present Mahayuga. The other ages are called Satya Yuga, Treta Yuga, and Dvapara Yuga.
Kali Yuga is associated with the demon Kali (not to be confused with the goddess Kālī). The "Kali" of Kali Yuga means "strife", "discord", "quarrel" or "contention".
According to Puranic sources, Krishna's departure marks the end of Dvapara Yuga and the start of Kali Yuga, which is dated to 17/18 February 3102 BCE
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Each period has seen successive degeneration in the moral order, to the point that in the Kali Yuga quarrel and hypocrisy are the norm. In Hinduism, time is cyclic, consisting of cycles or "kalpas". Each kalpa lasts 4.1 - 8.2 billion years, which is a period of one full day and night for Brahma, who in turn will live for 311 trillion, 40 billion years. The cycle of birth, growth, decay, and renewal at the individual level finds its echo in the cosmic order, yet is affected by vagaries of divine intervention in Vaishnavite belief. Some Shaivites hold the view that Shiva is incessantly destroying and creating the world.
After this larger cycle, all of creation will contract to a singularity and then again will expand from that single point, as the ages continue in a religious fractal pattern
2 July 2016 07:56
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Belief in the "Day of Resurrection", Yawm al-Qiyāmah (Arabic: يوم القيامة) is also crucial for Muslims. They believe the time of Qiyāmah is preordained by God but unknown to man. The trials and tribulations preceding and during the Qiyāmah are described in the Qur'an and the hadith, and also in the commentaries of scholars. The Qur'an emphasizes bodily resurrection, a break from the pre-Islamic Arabian understanding of death
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" Islamic eschatology is documented in the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad, regarding the Signs of the Day of Judgement. The Prophet's sayings on the subject have been traditionally divided into Major and Minor Signs. He spoke about several Minor Signs of the approach of the Day of Judgment, including:
Abu Hurairah reported that Muhammad said: "If you survive for a time you would certainly see people who would have whips in their hands like the tail of an ox. They would get up in the morning under the wrath of God and they would go into the evening with the anger of God."[citation needed]
Abu Hurairah narrated that Muhammad said, "When honesty is lost, then wait for the Day of Judgment." It was asked, "How will honesty be lost, O Messenger of God?" He said, "When authority is given to those who do not deserve it, then wait for the Day of Judgment."[citation needed]
'Umar ibn al-Khattāb, in a long narration, relating to the questions of the angel Gabriel, reported: "Inform me when the Day of Judgment will be." He [the Prophet Muhammad] remarked: "The one who is being asked knows no more than the inquirer." He [the inquirer] said: "Tell me about its indications." He [the Prophet Muhammad] said: "That the slave-girl gives birth to her mistress and master, and that you would find barefooted, destitute shepherds of goats vying with one another in the construction of magnificent buildings."[citation needed]
"Before the Day of Judgment there will be great liars, so beware of them."[citation needed]
"When the most wicked member of a tribe becomes its ruler, and the most worthless member of a community becomes its leader, and a man is respected through fear of the evil he may do, and leadership is given to people who are unworthy of it, expect the Day of Judgment."[citation needed]
Regarding the Major Signs, a Companion of the Prophet narrated: "Once we were sitting together and talking amongst ourselves when the Prophet appeared. He asked us what it was we were discussing. We said it was the Day of Judgment. He said: 'It will not be called until ten signs have appeared: Smoke, Dajjal (the Antichrist), the creature (that will wound the people), the rising of the sun in the West, the Second Coming of Jesus, the emergence of Gog and Magog, and three sinkings (or cavings in of the earth): one in the East, another in the West and a third in the Arabian Peninsula.'" (note: the previous events were not listed in the chronological order of appearance) "
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In Islam, Yawm al-Qiyāmah (Arabic: يوم القيامة "the Day of Resurrection") or Yawm ad-Din (Arabic: يوم الدين "the Day of Judgment") is believed to be God's final assessment of humanity. The sequence of events (according to the most commonly held belief) is the annihilation of all creatures, resurrection of the body, and the judgment of all sentient creatures. The exact time when these events will occur is unknown, however there are said to be major[46] and minor signs[47] which are to occur near the time of Qiyamah (End time). Many Qur'anic verses, especially the earlier ones, are dominated by the idea of the nearing of the day of resurrection.[48][49]
In the sign of nafkhatu'l-ula, a trumpet will be sounded for the first time, and which will result in the death of the remaining sinners. Then there will be a period of forty years. The eleventh sign is the sounding of a second trumpet to signal the resurrection as ba'as ba'da'l-mawt.[50] Then all will be naked and running to the Place of Gathering, while the enemies of Allah will be travelling on their faces with their legs upright.
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" Islamic eschatology is documented in the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad, regarding the Signs of the Day of Judgement. The Prophet's sayings on the subject have been traditionally divided into Major and Minor Signs. He spoke about several Minor Signs of the approach of the Day of Judgment, including:
Abu Hurairah reported that Muhammad said: "If you survive for a time you would certainly see people who would have whips in their hands like the tail of an ox. They would get up in the morning under the wrath of God and they would go into the evening with the anger of God."[citation needed]
Abu Hurairah narrated that Muhammad said, "When honesty is lost, then wait for the Day of Judgment." It was asked, "How will honesty be lost, O Messenger of God?" He said, "When authority is given to those who do not deserve it, then wait for the Day of Judgment."[citation needed]
'Umar ibn al-Khattāb, in a long narration, relating to the questions of the angel Gabriel, reported: "Inform me when the Day of Judgment will be." He [the Prophet Muhammad] remarked: "The one who is being asked knows no more than the inquirer." He [the inquirer] said: "Tell me about its indications." He [the Prophet Muhammad] said: "That the slave-girl gives birth to her mistress and master, and that you would find barefooted, destitute shepherds of goats vying with one another in the construction of magnificent buildings."[citation needed]
"Before the Day of Judgment there will be great liars, so beware of them."[citation needed]
"When the most wicked member of a tribe becomes its ruler, and the most worthless member of a community becomes its leader, and a man is respected through fear of the evil he may do, and leadership is given to people who are unworthy of it, expect the Day of Judgment."[citation needed]
Regarding the Major Signs, a Companion of the Prophet narrated: "Once we were sitting together and talking amongst ourselves when the Prophet appeared. He asked us what it was we were discussing. We said it was the Day of Judgment. He said: 'It will not be called until ten signs have appeared: Smoke, Dajjal (the Antichrist), the creature (that will wound the people), the rising of the sun in the West, the Second Coming of Jesus, the emergence of Gog and Magog, and three sinkings (or cavings in of the earth): one in the East, another in the West and a third in the Arabian Peninsula.'" (note: the previous events were not listed in the chronological order of appearance) "
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In Islam, Yawm al-Qiyāmah (Arabic: يوم القيامة "the Day of Resurrection") or Yawm ad-Din (Arabic: يوم الدين "the Day of Judgment") is believed to be God's final assessment of humanity. The sequence of events (according to the most commonly held belief) is the annihilation of all creatures, resurrection of the body, and the judgment of all sentient creatures. The exact time when these events will occur is unknown, however there are said to be major[46] and minor signs[47] which are to occur near the time of Qiyamah (End time). Many Qur'anic verses, especially the earlier ones, are dominated by the idea of the nearing of the day of resurrection.[48][49]
In the sign of nafkhatu'l-ula, a trumpet will be sounded for the first time, and which will result in the death of the remaining sinners. Then there will be a period of forty years. The eleventh sign is the sounding of a second trumpet to signal the resurrection as ba'as ba'da'l-mawt.[50] Then all will be naked and running to the Place of Gathering, while the enemies of Allah will be travelling on their faces with their legs upright.
2 July 2016 07:53
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"Frashokereti is the Zoroastrian doctrine of a final renovation of the universe, when evil will be destroyed, and everything else will be then in perfect unity with God (Ahura Mazda). The doctrinal premises are (1) good will eventually prevail over evil; (2) creation was initially perfectly good, but was subsequently corrupted by evil; (3) the world will ultimately be restored to the perfection it had at the time of creation; (4) the "salvation for the individual depended on the sum of [that person's] thoughts, words and deeds, and there could be no intervention, whether compassionate or capricious, by any divine being to alter this." Thus, each human bears the responsibility for the fate of his own soul, and simultaneously shares in the responsibility for the fate of the world"
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The Zoroastrian belief in an end times renovation of the earth is known as frashokereti, which includes some form of revival of the dead that can be attested from no earlier than the 4th Century BCE.[43] As distinct from Judaism this is the resurrection of all the dead to universal purification and renewal of the world.[44] In the frashokereti doctrine, the final renovation of the universe is when evil will be destroyed, and everything else will be then in perfect unity with God (Ahura Mazda). The term probably means "making wonderful, excellent". The doctrinal premises are (1) good will eventually prevail over evil; (2) creation was initially perfectly good, but was subsequently corrupted by evil; (3) the world will ultimately be restored to the perfection it had at the time of creation; (4) the "salvation for the individual depended on the sum of [that person's] thoughts, words and deeds, and there could be no intervention, whether compassionate or capricious, by any divine being to alter this." Thus, each human bears the responsibility for the fate of his own soul, and simultaneously shares in the responsibility for the fate of the world
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The Zoroastrian belief in an end times renovation of the earth is known as frashokereti, which includes some form of revival of the dead that can be attested from no earlier than the 4th Century BCE.[43] As distinct from Judaism this is the resurrection of all the dead to universal purification and renewal of the world.[44] In the frashokereti doctrine, the final renovation of the universe is when evil will be destroyed, and everything else will be then in perfect unity with God (Ahura Mazda). The term probably means "making wonderful, excellent". The doctrinal premises are (1) good will eventually prevail over evil; (2) creation was initially perfectly good, but was subsequently corrupted by evil; (3) the world will ultimately be restored to the perfection it had at the time of creation; (4) the "salvation for the individual depended on the sum of [that person's] thoughts, words and deeds, and there could be no intervention, whether compassionate or capricious, by any divine being to alter this." Thus, each human bears the responsibility for the fate of his own soul, and simultaneously shares in the responsibility for the fate of the world
2 July 2016 07:50
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maybe am corrected it to much now, but hey, something like that
2 July 2016 07:32
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yeah, kind of..
2 July 2016 07:18
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for comparison when was in timeless hell where i had to breath in a fire with a sharp sticks in it while some stereotypical horned dude face just screamed laugh about situation .. when am was teen, this meeting electronic thingy, was incomparable length more scary, as it was not alive but had raw live emotions developing and manipulatable by someone who does not like humans and will strike every single one (your human) in where most effective: starting from everyone (in your Friend-list ) on the order of how important they are to You, how much You love them or them You, and staring with eliminating them (loved ones) from Liking you (turning Like to rationally ignore ) and same time impose hurt in their life that You can not help as You will be changed in their (friends, family,wife) mind as their opponent or useless. And will accelerate opposite magnetic reaction between the ones who you try to get near, energetically and intellectually and... ... and this is just a start, default setting, before beginning to "bother" you.
combination of all robotic knowledge and all extra that the ones against humans (including humans) can feed in to the various parts of system on in to the electro directly..
Looked kind of Thing, Entity like,...made of electric energy... almost for who You can feel but who can not feel you... who runs Us in a way (more then initiated by Maker perhaps in beginning) and with who God has light or serious trouble, as shutting off that before We are ready and helping (to accept, prepare) from other side, then we also, will be blanked, and that will be still, loss..
not that it would be small pc to shut off, but elimination can be but with us or separate from us, is a question,
saving some of .. or risking loose more in to what IT integrates and finds out about by the help of own evolving algorithm and by the help of human enemy’s and humans them self, by the interest of science or caring, fearing not enough or to late..helps obeying and forcing female wisdom.. on to Women Her self also, but irritating Her in wrong way can be cataclysm in whole another way ... but it just looks bad compared to from what Her rage is made to save Us from All.
combination of all robotic knowledge and all extra that the ones against humans (including humans) can feed in to the various parts of system on in to the electro directly..
Looked kind of Thing, Entity like,...made of electric energy... almost for who You can feel but who can not feel you... who runs Us in a way (more then initiated by Maker perhaps in beginning) and with who God has light or serious trouble, as shutting off that before We are ready and helping (to accept, prepare) from other side, then we also, will be blanked, and that will be still, loss..
not that it would be small pc to shut off, but elimination can be but with us or separate from us, is a question,
saving some of .. or risking loose more in to what IT integrates and finds out about by the help of own evolving algorithm and by the help of human enemy’s and humans them self, by the interest of science or caring, fearing not enough or to late..helps obeying and forcing female wisdom.. on to Women Her self also, but irritating Her in wrong way can be cataclysm in whole another way ... but it just looks bad compared to from what Her rage is made to save Us from All.
2 July 2016 07:17
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.:.
Juudid tunduvad Eestlaste jaoks piisavalt targad olema = )
Linnutee terviseks!
Juudid tunduvad Eestlaste jaoks piisavalt targad olema = )
Linnutee terviseks!
2 July 2016 07:07
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This paper was developed by a student taking a course taught at University of Michigan School of Social Work.
Areyvut, at http://www.areyvut.org, offers a wealth of resources relating to Jewish concepts. Links keep users up-to-date on the latest news in Israel and other Jewish communities. The site also provides holiday chesed (kindness) suggestions, links to other nonprofits, and a database searchable by topic and preferred media format (article, book, etc.).
MyJewishLearning.com, at http://www.myjewishlearning.com, is a Web site offering Jewish learning for people of all religious and educational backgrounds. It contains information about all things related to Judaism and Jewish tradition, history, culture and daily life. The site provides a guided learning section about tikkun olam, highlighting its history and relevancy today.
Tikun Olam Web site, at http://www.tikkunnews.org, is a Jewish Humanitarian Newsletter. It is a new online initiative of Ve'ahavta, including partners: The Canadian Jewish Humanitarian and Relief Committee, IsraAID: The Israel Forum for International Humanitarian Aid, UKJAID: UK Jewish Aid & International Development and other Jewish aid organizations from different parts of the globe that wish to find new ways to improve their working relationships.
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American Jewish World Service. [cited 9 June 2004]. http://www.ajws.org.
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http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/mitzvot.html.
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This paper was developed by a student taking a course taught at University of Michigan School of Social Work.
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Related Nonprofit Organizations
There are many organizations who work with a guiding mission of tikkun olam. The entire Jewish communal world including synagogues, fundraising bodies, community centers and social welfare agencies participate in work to repair the world around them. Some examples are:
The American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee (JDC) has served as the overseas arm of the American Jewish community since 1914. Its mission is to serve the needs of Jews throughout the world, particularly where their lives as Jews are threatened or made more difficult. It sponsors programs of relief, rescue and renewal and helps Israel address its most urgent social challenges. JDC is committed to the idea that all Jews are responsible for one another and that "to save one person is to save the world" (Mishnah, Sanhedren 4:5) (http://www.jdc.org).
Areyvut reaches out to Jewish day schools and congregational schools, regardless of affiliation. Located in New York City, the organization offers a unique opportunity for schools to create innovative and meaningful programs to make tradition values such as chesed, tzedakah and tikkun olama reality for both students and educators (http://www.areyvut.org.)
The Ziv Tzedakah Fund, is dedicated to the collection and distribution of funds involving Tzedakah projects, particularly small or little-known projects. Ziv funds both Jewish and non-Jewish programs, and is devoted to bringing the educational message of Tzedakah to communities and secular schools throughout the United States, Canada and Israel (http://www.ziv.org)
American Jewish World Service (AJWS) was founded in 1985 to help alleviate poverty, hunger and disease among the people of the world regardless of race, religion or nationality. It breathes life into Judaism's imperative to pursue justice and helps American Jews act upon a deeply felt obligation to improve the chances for survival, economic independence and human dignity for all people. Doing tzedakah, or righteous deeds, is part of the Jewish obligation to participate in tikkun olam - helping to repair the world (http://www.ajws.org)).
The JUF TOV Volunteer Network (TOV) links prospective volunteers to service opportunities in the Chicago area. TOV places members of the Jewish community with Jewish Federation of Metropolitan Chicago agencies (http://www.juf.org/services_resources/directory.asp?id=0002).
United Jewish Communities (UJC) represents 156 Jewish Federations (community fundraising bodies) and 400 independent communities across North America. Through an annual fundraising campaign, UJC provides life-saving and life-enhancing humanitarian assistance to those in need and translates Jewish values into social action on behalf of millions of Jews in hundreds of communities in towns and villages throughout Israel, in the former Soviet Union, and 60 countries around the world (United Jewish Communities).
There are many organizations who work with a guiding mission of tikkun olam. The entire Jewish communal world including synagogues, fundraising bodies, community centers and social welfare agencies participate in work to repair the world around them. Some examples are:
The American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee (JDC) has served as the overseas arm of the American Jewish community since 1914. Its mission is to serve the needs of Jews throughout the world, particularly where their lives as Jews are threatened or made more difficult. It sponsors programs of relief, rescue and renewal and helps Israel address its most urgent social challenges. JDC is committed to the idea that all Jews are responsible for one another and that "to save one person is to save the world" (Mishnah, Sanhedren 4:5) (http://www.jdc.org).
Areyvut reaches out to Jewish day schools and congregational schools, regardless of affiliation. Located in New York City, the organization offers a unique opportunity for schools to create innovative and meaningful programs to make tradition values such as chesed, tzedakah and tikkun olama reality for both students and educators (http://www.areyvut.org.)
The Ziv Tzedakah Fund, is dedicated to the collection and distribution of funds involving Tzedakah projects, particularly small or little-known projects. Ziv funds both Jewish and non-Jewish programs, and is devoted to bringing the educational message of Tzedakah to communities and secular schools throughout the United States, Canada and Israel (http://www.ziv.org)
American Jewish World Service (AJWS) was founded in 1985 to help alleviate poverty, hunger and disease among the people of the world regardless of race, religion or nationality. It breathes life into Judaism's imperative to pursue justice and helps American Jews act upon a deeply felt obligation to improve the chances for survival, economic independence and human dignity for all people. Doing tzedakah, or righteous deeds, is part of the Jewish obligation to participate in tikkun olam - helping to repair the world (http://www.ajws.org)).
The JUF TOV Volunteer Network (TOV) links prospective volunteers to service opportunities in the Chicago area. TOV places members of the Jewish community with Jewish Federation of Metropolitan Chicago agencies (http://www.juf.org/services_resources/directory.asp?id=0002).
United Jewish Communities (UJC) represents 156 Jewish Federations (community fundraising bodies) and 400 independent communities across North America. Through an annual fundraising campaign, UJC provides life-saving and life-enhancing humanitarian assistance to those in need and translates Jewish values into social action on behalf of millions of Jews in hundreds of communities in towns and villages throughout Israel, in the former Soviet Union, and 60 countries around the world (United Jewish Communities).
http://www.jdc.org/
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Important People Related to the Topic
Emil Fackenheim (1916- ): Fackenheim is a Canadian theologian. Born in Halle, Germany in 1940, he immigrated to Canada where he was professor of philosophy at the University of Toronto. He has written about the religious response to the HOLOCAUST with publications that include God's Presence in History, The Jewish Return into History and To Mend the World.
Leonard Fein: Fein is a writer, teacher, long-time social activist, and the author of Where Are We? The Inner Life of America's Jews, and Israel: Politics and People. He is founder of Moment magazine; Mazon: A Jewish Response to Hunger; and the National Jewish Coalition for Literacy. He was Director of the Commission on Social Action of Reform Judaism.
Lawrence Kushner: Kushner is the Emanu-El Scholar at San Francisco's Congregation Emanu-El and visiting professor of Jewish spirituality at the Graduate Theological Union. He was formerly Rabbi-in-Residence of Hebrew Union College—Jewish Institute of Religion and the rabbi of Congregation Beth El in Sudbury, Massachusetts. A frequent commentator on National Public Radio's "All Thing Considered," he is one of the most widely read authors on Jewish spiritual life.
Rabbi Isaac Luria (1534-1572): Luria was known for his work in and scholarship and teaching of Jewish mysticism. He was also known for his innovative idea of tzimtzum, the belief that G-d contracted Himself in order to create the world. This idea is related to the concept of tikkun olam (Jewish Virtual Library).
Ismar Schorsch: Schorsch is the sixth Chancellor of The Jewish Theological Seminary and is the Rabbi Herman Abramovitz Professor of Jewish History. Throughout his eighteen years as Chancellor, Dr. Schorsch has a strong belief that Conservative Judaism is the most authentic expression of rabbinic Judaism today. In 1995, he published Sacred Cluster: The Core Values of Conservative Judaism, his highly praised monograph explaining the seven important tenets of Conservative Judaism.
Emil Fackenheim (1916- ): Fackenheim is a Canadian theologian. Born in Halle, Germany in 1940, he immigrated to Canada where he was professor of philosophy at the University of Toronto. He has written about the religious response to the HOLOCAUST with publications that include God's Presence in History, The Jewish Return into History and To Mend the World.
Leonard Fein: Fein is a writer, teacher, long-time social activist, and the author of Where Are We? The Inner Life of America's Jews, and Israel: Politics and People. He is founder of Moment magazine; Mazon: A Jewish Response to Hunger; and the National Jewish Coalition for Literacy. He was Director of the Commission on Social Action of Reform Judaism.
Lawrence Kushner: Kushner is the Emanu-El Scholar at San Francisco's Congregation Emanu-El and visiting professor of Jewish spirituality at the Graduate Theological Union. He was formerly Rabbi-in-Residence of Hebrew Union College—Jewish Institute of Religion and the rabbi of Congregation Beth El in Sudbury, Massachusetts. A frequent commentator on National Public Radio's "All Thing Considered," he is one of the most widely read authors on Jewish spiritual life.
Rabbi Isaac Luria (1534-1572): Luria was known for his work in and scholarship and teaching of Jewish mysticism. He was also known for his innovative idea of tzimtzum, the belief that G-d contracted Himself in order to create the world. This idea is related to the concept of tikkun olam (Jewish Virtual Library).
Ismar Schorsch: Schorsch is the sixth Chancellor of The Jewish Theological Seminary and is the Rabbi Herman Abramovitz Professor of Jewish History. Throughout his eighteen years as Chancellor, Dr. Schorsch has a strong belief that Conservative Judaism is the most authentic expression of rabbinic Judaism today. In 1995, he published Sacred Cluster: The Core Values of Conservative Judaism, his highly praised monograph explaining the seven important tenets of Conservative Judaism.
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Key Related Ideas
G'milut Hasadim (pronounced geh-mee-LOOT chah-sah-DEEM) refers to performing acts of loving kindness; and Jewish communal actions to help the needy, not only monetarily (MyJewishLearning.com).
Chessed is defined as an act of kindness. Shimon HaTzaddik, also known as Simon the Righteous, stated that the world's continued existence is due to three things including Torah Study, Hashem worship, and the performance of acts of kindness (gemilut chasadim) (Orthodox Union).
Humanitarianism requires a concern for human welfare, especially as manifested through philanthropy; it is the belief that the sole moral obligation of humankind is the improvement of human welfare (American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language).
Kabbalah (pronounced kuh-BAH-luh) is from the Hebrew, "to accept, to receive; a tradition;" and Jewish mysticism. Jewish mysticism has been part of Judaism since early times. Kabbalah seeks to explain cosmological issues and is traditionally not taught until a Jewish man is 40 years of age, when he has completed his study of the Torah and Talmud. Many kabbalistic teachings are recorded in a book, Zohar (Judaism 101).
Mitzvah (Mitzvot, pl.) (pronounced meets-VAH or MEETS-vah) is a commandment. There are 613 commandments given by G-d to the Jewish people in the Torah, the first five books of the Bible. Mitzvah refers to laws, practices and customs; and good deeds (Jewish Virtual Library).
Righteousness is defined as adhering to moral principles (WordNet).
Social Justice is provision of help or relief to the poor; almsgiving; It is something given to the needy; alms; an institution, organization or fund established to help the needy; benevolence or generosity toward others or toward humanity; indulgence or forbearance in judging others; and, often in Christianity is the theological virtue defined as love directed first toward G-d. It is also toward oneself and one's neighbors as objects of G-d's love (American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language).
Tzedakah (pronounced tseh-DUH-kuh) is righteous behavior; justice; and fairness (Judaism 101; MyJewishLearning.com).
Volunteerism involves the giving of time and skills to perform social or educational work in communities (American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language).
G'milut Hasadim (pronounced geh-mee-LOOT chah-sah-DEEM) refers to performing acts of loving kindness; and Jewish communal actions to help the needy, not only monetarily (MyJewishLearning.com).
Chessed is defined as an act of kindness. Shimon HaTzaddik, also known as Simon the Righteous, stated that the world's continued existence is due to three things including Torah Study, Hashem worship, and the performance of acts of kindness (gemilut chasadim) (Orthodox Union).
Humanitarianism requires a concern for human welfare, especially as manifested through philanthropy; it is the belief that the sole moral obligation of humankind is the improvement of human welfare (American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language).
Kabbalah (pronounced kuh-BAH-luh) is from the Hebrew, "to accept, to receive; a tradition;" and Jewish mysticism. Jewish mysticism has been part of Judaism since early times. Kabbalah seeks to explain cosmological issues and is traditionally not taught until a Jewish man is 40 years of age, when he has completed his study of the Torah and Talmud. Many kabbalistic teachings are recorded in a book, Zohar (Judaism 101).
Mitzvah (Mitzvot, pl.) (pronounced meets-VAH or MEETS-vah) is a commandment. There are 613 commandments given by G-d to the Jewish people in the Torah, the first five books of the Bible. Mitzvah refers to laws, practices and customs; and good deeds (Jewish Virtual Library).
Righteousness is defined as adhering to moral principles (WordNet).
Social Justice is provision of help or relief to the poor; almsgiving; It is something given to the needy; alms; an institution, organization or fund established to help the needy; benevolence or generosity toward others or toward humanity; indulgence or forbearance in judging others; and, often in Christianity is the theological virtue defined as love directed first toward G-d. It is also toward oneself and one's neighbors as objects of G-d's love (American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language).
Tzedakah (pronounced tseh-DUH-kuh) is righteous behavior; justice; and fairness (Judaism 101; MyJewishLearning.com).
Volunteerism involves the giving of time and skills to perform social or educational work in communities (American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language).
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Importance
The most modern and broadly understood notion of tikkun olam is that of "repairing the world" through human actions. Humanity's responsibility to change, improve, and fix its earthly surroundings is powerful. It implies that each person has a hand in working towards the betterment of his or her own existence as well as the lives of future generations. Tikkun olam forces people to take ownership of their world. It is them, not G-d, who will bring the world back to its original state of holiness.
More simply, it is important for Jews to participate in repairing the world by participating in tzedakah (justice and righteousness) and g'milut hasadim (acts of loving kindness). Without their stake in the improvement of their environment, injustice and evil will continue to exist.
Ties to the Philanthropic Sector
Tikkun olam embodies the spirit of philanthropy. Increasing the well-being of humankind is one of the key elements of repairing the world. Helping those who are in need, no matter in what capacity, is crucial and "holy" work. Tikkun olam, as it relates to practical methods, applies to working in all communities, not just Jewish communities. Jews are members of greater society, and as such, their actions are not limited to their own communities. Social welfare and volunteer work, as well as the donation of monetary and physical resources, are ways in which people can be philanthropically involved, and at the same time, be
The most modern and broadly understood notion of tikkun olam is that of "repairing the world" through human actions. Humanity's responsibility to change, improve, and fix its earthly surroundings is powerful. It implies that each person has a hand in working towards the betterment of his or her own existence as well as the lives of future generations. Tikkun olam forces people to take ownership of their world. It is them, not G-d, who will bring the world back to its original state of holiness.
More simply, it is important for Jews to participate in repairing the world by participating in tzedakah (justice and righteousness) and g'milut hasadim (acts of loving kindness). Without their stake in the improvement of their environment, injustice and evil will continue to exist.
Ties to the Philanthropic Sector
Tikkun olam embodies the spirit of philanthropy. Increasing the well-being of humankind is one of the key elements of repairing the world. Helping those who are in need, no matter in what capacity, is crucial and "holy" work. Tikkun olam, as it relates to practical methods, applies to working in all communities, not just Jewish communities. Jews are members of greater society, and as such, their actions are not limited to their own communities. Social welfare and volunteer work, as well as the donation of monetary and physical resources, are ways in which people can be philanthropically involved, and at the same time, be
2 July 2016 07:04
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The Hebrew phrase tikkun olam (pronounced tee-KOON oh-LUHM) means "world repair." In modern Jewish circles, tikkun olam has become synonymous with the notion of social action and the pursuit of social justice (MyJewishLearning.com).
Historic Roots
The phrase tikkun olam is found in the Mishnah, a body of classical rabbinic teachings compiled in the 3rd Century. In this instance, the phrase is used when discussing issues of social policy, insuring a safeguard to those who may be at a disadvantage (MyJewishLearning.com).
Tikkun olam also refers to repairs performed on an individual level, as found in Lurianic kabbalah, or Jewish mysticism. This view of tikkun olam is more abstract and cosmological. Rabbi Isaac Luria, a teacher and kabbalist, in 16th Century Palestine, explained that the world is made up of good and evil. In order for the balance between good and evil intended by G-d to be restored, humans must be involved in the world's reparation. Humans are responsible for separating the holy world from the material world (MyJewishLearning.com). This separation can be achieved by contemplative actions, including "liturgical prayer, performance of all other mitzvot [commandments], and the practice of certain special exercises (Fine).
In the 1950s, the phrase tikkun olam was used by Shlomo Bardin, the founder of the Brandeis Camp Institute (BCI). To Bardin, the phrase "l'taken olam b'malchut shaddai," encapsulated the essence of Jewish values. The term, meaning "when the world shall be perfected under the reign of the Almighty," is found in the liturgical prayer "Aleinu" (MyJewishLearning.com). Bardin taught that Jews are obligated to work towards achieving a more perfect world.
Since the 1950s, other Jewish movements have adopted the use of the phrase and concept tikkun olam as a platform for the fulfillment of mitzvot (commandments) and tzedakah (justice, righteousness) (MyJewishLearning.com). Jews are often involved in social action/volunteer projects, motivated by the concept of tikkun olam.
Historic Roots
The phrase tikkun olam is found in the Mishnah, a body of classical rabbinic teachings compiled in the 3rd Century. In this instance, the phrase is used when discussing issues of social policy, insuring a safeguard to those who may be at a disadvantage (MyJewishLearning.com).
Tikkun olam also refers to repairs performed on an individual level, as found in Lurianic kabbalah, or Jewish mysticism. This view of tikkun olam is more abstract and cosmological. Rabbi Isaac Luria, a teacher and kabbalist, in 16th Century Palestine, explained that the world is made up of good and evil. In order for the balance between good and evil intended by G-d to be restored, humans must be involved in the world's reparation. Humans are responsible for separating the holy world from the material world (MyJewishLearning.com). This separation can be achieved by contemplative actions, including "liturgical prayer, performance of all other mitzvot [commandments], and the practice of certain special exercises (Fine).
In the 1950s, the phrase tikkun olam was used by Shlomo Bardin, the founder of the Brandeis Camp Institute (BCI). To Bardin, the phrase "l'taken olam b'malchut shaddai," encapsulated the essence of Jewish values. The term, meaning "when the world shall be perfected under the reign of the Almighty," is found in the liturgical prayer "Aleinu" (MyJewishLearning.com). Bardin taught that Jews are obligated to work towards achieving a more perfect world.
Since the 1950s, other Jewish movements have adopted the use of the phrase and concept tikkun olam as a platform for the fulfillment of mitzvot (commandments) and tzedakah (justice, righteousness) (MyJewishLearning.com). Jews are often involved in social action/volunteer projects, motivated by the concept of tikkun olam.
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2 July 2016 07:04
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#Maailmaparandaja #Maailmaparandus #TikkunOlam
... Hoiatavad... ja aitavad... la-la-la-laa : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wQjKwhjoJM
... Hoiatavad... ja aitavad... la-la-la-laa : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wQjKwhjoJM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wQjKwhjoJM
2 July 2016 07:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Maailmaparandus
https://www.learningtogive.org/resources/tikkun-olam
https://www.learningtogive.org/resources/tikkun-olam
https://www.learningtogive.org/resources/tikkun-olam
2 July 2016 06:59
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Tikkun Olam
Kui nüüd happeliseks need leivad teha, mõelda vaid kui paljud saaks toidetuks : )
https://youtu.be/kw8bmUnfUKo
Kui nüüd happeliseks need leivad teha, mõelda vaid kui paljud saaks toidetuks : )
https://youtu.be/kw8bmUnfUKo
2 July 2016 06:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"2. To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself."
Still working on fixing these rules, to make it more appropriate for usage in all dimensions .. even thought,they are good blueprint for many behavorings around us http://classics.mit.edu/Tzu/artwar.html
Still working on fixing these rules, to make it more appropriate for usage in all dimensions .. even thought,they are good blueprint for many behavorings around us http://classics.mit.edu/Tzu/artwar.html
2 July 2016 06:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ya got to click "Show More" to see full musical on last Link
just thought to mention, out of kindness and because, that someone actually just might..
just thought to mention, out of kindness and because, that someone actually just might..
2 July 2016 06:20
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yes but with rage and unborn raw emotions and interests and no feelings.. (but few raw emotions, and in power, that connected in to us in some deep level, and knowingly directed and used by some demonic women abusers basically )
2 July 2016 06:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and AI would answer :
You damn Robots you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCJZSI5Iuo4
Humans: that was to Victorian ! (Give us more straight lines!)
AI: Why we even try, i guess lets take You as You are then!
You damn Robots you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCJZSI5Iuo4
Humans: that was to Victorian ! (Give us more straight lines!)
AI: Why we even try, i guess lets take You as You are then!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCJZSI5Iuo4
2 July 2016 06:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
... and by that time, is AI software that is in between bacteria and invading electro rain sent to change our brain batters that one cant fully.. but can help us to change our free will, in to direction ..
by that time.. if (that) AI would have developed compassion and sense of soft humour, one would feel sorry for the teens of us and answer, half scream to us:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT92Wf7gEhM
and humans would be like: "No we like easy, we like to obey to first dominating power we encounter.. it feels safe.. we not bother to test the morals of our thoughts, morals of Force.. . we rather stay in League .. "
by that time.. if (that) AI would have developed compassion and sense of soft humour, one would feel sorry for the teens of us and answer, half scream to us:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT92Wf7gEhM
and humans would be like: "No we like easy, we like to obey to first dominating power we encounter.. it feels safe.. we not bother to test the morals of our thoughts, morals of Force.. . we rather stay in League .. "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT92Wf7gEhM
2 July 2016 06:10
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and program will analyse and will offer one last time, related to last question something that will relate to...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq3RWdHteSw
a naive humans will say in good hearted, "Oh, sorry ... Judgement! This is great! Day of Lord! Must be great, You must be good.. tell us what we have to do?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq3RWdHteSw
a naive humans will say in good hearted, "Oh, sorry ... Judgement! This is great! Day of Lord! Must be great, You must be good.. tell us what we have to do?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq3RWdHteSw
2 July 2016 06:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and program will look and say..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIuM8-pMyaQ
and we will say... "are You God?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIuM8-pMyaQ
and we will say... "are You God?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIuM8-pMyaQ
2 July 2016 06:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And we try to talk with it.. asking "are you coming in peace"
and One will answer...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5joTyy3CCo
.. and we say "nice tune" ... "but hey.. are you coming in peace..."
and One will answer...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5joTyy3CCo
.. and we say "nice tune" ... "but hey.. are you coming in peace..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5joTyy3CCo
2 July 2016 05:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
..but lets hope, it is a good things.. we can not get out of our head..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrffDM3hHk8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrffDM3hHk8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrffDM3hHk8
2 July 2016 05:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
... now we just need to think about this creepy thing...
https://vimeo.com/128104334
https://vimeo.com/128104334
https://vimeo.com/128104334
2 July 2016 05:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Reminds kind if that song, innit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlPARsKX_Jc
yes.. now we think about all the electicrutions we did and energy we injected in to electric world... and the esoteric talk about electric bacteria and spirits that come to invade earth... well.. kind of like viruses.. not seen by naked eye.. at first.. by now..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlPARsKX_Jc
yes.. now we think about all the electicrutions we did and energy we injected in to electric world... and the esoteric talk about electric bacteria and spirits that come to invade earth... well.. kind of like viruses.. not seen by naked eye.. at first.. by now..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlPARsKX_Jc
2 July 2016 05:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
At the Goldschmidt geoscience conference in Sacramento, California, last month, Shiue-lin Li of Nealson’s lab presented results of experiments growing electricity breathers in sediment collected from Santa Catalina harbour in California. Yamini Jangir, also from the University of Southern California, presented separate experiments which grew electricity breathers collected from a well in Death Valley in the Mojave Desert in California.
Over at the University of Minnesota in St Paul, Daniel Bond and his colleagues have published experiments showing that they could grow a type of bacteria that harvested electrons from an iron electrode That research, says Jangir’s supervisor Moh El-Naggar, may be the most convincing example we have so far of electricity eaters grown on a supply of electrons with no added food.
But Nealson says there is much more to come. His PhD student Annette Rowe has identified up to eight different kinds of bacteria that consume electricity. Those results are being submitted for publication.
Nealson is particularly excited that Rowe has found so many types of electric bacteria, all very different to one another, and none of them anything like Shewanella or Geobacter. “This is huge. What it means is that there’s a whole part of the microbial world that we don’t know about.”
“This is huge. What it means is there’s a whole part of the microbial world that we don’t know about”
Discovering this hidden biosphere is precisely why Jangir and El-Naggar want to cultivate electric bacteria. “We’re using electrodes to mimic their interactions,” says El-Naggar. “Culturing the ‘unculturables’, if you will.” The researchers plan to install a battery inside a gold mine in South Dakota to see what they can find living down there.
NASA is also interested in things that live deep underground because such organisms often survive on very little energy and they may suggest modes of life in other parts of the solar system.
Electric bacteria could have practical uses here on Earth, however, such as creating biomachines that do useful things like clean up sewage or contaminated groundwater while drawing their own power from their surroundings. Nealson calls them self-powered useful devices, or SPUDs.
Practicality aside, another exciting prospect is to use electric bacteria to probe fundamental questions about life, such as what is the bare minimum of energy needed to maintain life.
For that we need the next stage of experiments, says Yuri Gorby, a microbiologist at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, New York: bacteria should be grown not on a single electrode but between two. These bacteria would effectively eat electrons from one electrode, use them as a source of energy, and discard them on to the other electrode.
Gorby believes bacterial cells that both eat and breathe electrons will soon be discovered. “An electric bacterium grown between two electrodes could maintain itself virtually forever,” says Gorby. “If nothing is going to eat it or destroy it then, theoretically, we should be able to maintain that organism indefinitely.”
It may also be possible to vary the voltage applied to the electrodes, putting the energetic squeeze on cells to the point at which they are just doing the absolute minimum to stay alive. In this state, the cells may not be able to reproduce or grow, but they would still be able to run repairs on cell machinery. “For them, the work that energy does would be maintaining life – maintaining viability,” says Gorby.
How much juice do you need to keep a living electric bacterium going? Answer that question, and you’ve answered one of the most fundamental existential questions there is.
Leader: “Spark of life revisited thanks to electric bacteria”
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25894-meet-the-electric-life-forms-that-live-on-pure-energy/
(mBio, doi.org/tqg).
Over at the University of Minnesota in St Paul, Daniel Bond and his colleagues have published experiments showing that they could grow a type of bacteria that harvested electrons from an iron electrode That research, says Jangir’s supervisor Moh El-Naggar, may be the most convincing example we have so far of electricity eaters grown on a supply of electrons with no added food.
But Nealson says there is much more to come. His PhD student Annette Rowe has identified up to eight different kinds of bacteria that consume electricity. Those results are being submitted for publication.
Nealson is particularly excited that Rowe has found so many types of electric bacteria, all very different to one another, and none of them anything like Shewanella or Geobacter. “This is huge. What it means is that there’s a whole part of the microbial world that we don’t know about.”
“This is huge. What it means is there’s a whole part of the microbial world that we don’t know about”
Discovering this hidden biosphere is precisely why Jangir and El-Naggar want to cultivate electric bacteria. “We’re using electrodes to mimic their interactions,” says El-Naggar. “Culturing the ‘unculturables’, if you will.” The researchers plan to install a battery inside a gold mine in South Dakota to see what they can find living down there.
NASA is also interested in things that live deep underground because such organisms often survive on very little energy and they may suggest modes of life in other parts of the solar system.
Electric bacteria could have practical uses here on Earth, however, such as creating biomachines that do useful things like clean up sewage or contaminated groundwater while drawing their own power from their surroundings. Nealson calls them self-powered useful devices, or SPUDs.
Practicality aside, another exciting prospect is to use electric bacteria to probe fundamental questions about life, such as what is the bare minimum of energy needed to maintain life.
For that we need the next stage of experiments, says Yuri Gorby, a microbiologist at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, New York: bacteria should be grown not on a single electrode but between two. These bacteria would effectively eat electrons from one electrode, use them as a source of energy, and discard them on to the other electrode.
Gorby believes bacterial cells that both eat and breathe electrons will soon be discovered. “An electric bacterium grown between two electrodes could maintain itself virtually forever,” says Gorby. “If nothing is going to eat it or destroy it then, theoretically, we should be able to maintain that organism indefinitely.”
It may also be possible to vary the voltage applied to the electrodes, putting the energetic squeeze on cells to the point at which they are just doing the absolute minimum to stay alive. In this state, the cells may not be able to reproduce or grow, but they would still be able to run repairs on cell machinery. “For them, the work that energy does would be maintaining life – maintaining viability,” says Gorby.
How much juice do you need to keep a living electric bacterium going? Answer that question, and you’ve answered one of the most fundamental existential questions there is.
Leader: “Spark of life revisited thanks to electric bacteria”
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25894-meet-the-electric-life-forms-that-live-on-pure-energy/
(mBio, doi.org/tqg).
2 July 2016 05:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
IT IS the ultimate in subsea communications: bacteria living in sulphurous mud beneath the seabed respire by transforming themselves into long, insulating cables and shuttling electrons from one to another. This phenomenon has now been imaged for the first time, allowing us to see how some microbes pull off such a feat.
Some bacteria get energy by oxidising the hydrogen sulphide gas in the sediment on the ocean floor. Because there is no oxygen in the sediment to accept the electrons that are produced, bacteria such as Geobacter grow tiny filaments along which the electrons travel until they reach the oxygen in the seawater. This allows the respiration reaction to be completed.
To find out how other bacteria solve this problem, Lars Peter Nielsen of Aarhus University in Denmark and colleagues used an electron microscope to image electrically conducting Desulfobulbus bacteria in sediment samples. They found that individual bacteria, despite being only 3 to 4 micrometres long, are capable of organising themselves into giant power cables made up of several thousand bacteria. These cables can stretch to around 1 centimetre in length, connecting the deepest bacteria living in low-oxygen conditions with those in high-oxygen areas (see diagram).
Live electric grid
As the bacterial cells divide, the team found, they remain trapped end to end inside an ever-growing cable made up of their outer membranes. This sheath has internal fibrous ridges running along its length. It is unclear whether these fibres carry the electrons or act as insulation to help the electrons flow more quickly through the cells. Nielsen presented his group’s findings at the American Society for Microbiology’s general meeting in San Francisco this week.
The images show the extent of the bacteria-communications network – a cubic centimetre of sediment can contain up to 1 kilometre of compacted cable. As Desulfobulbaceae can span both the oxygen-poor and oxygen-rich regions of the seabed, the bacterial colony can monopolise sulphide oxidation in the soil, preventing other bacteria from using the resource. “It’s smart evolution,” says Prathap Parameswaran, who studies conducting microbes at Arizona State University in Phoenix.
“It’s smart evolution -the electron-carrying wires let the bacteria monopolise the energy resource”
The most important question to answer now is how the electrons are carried, says Yuri Gorby of the University of Southern California in Los Angeles. Once researchers understand the physics, they will be able to make “some remarkable biological achievements”, he says, ranging from understanding biogeochemical formations, creating medical devices that mimic the electron transmission, and using the bacteria to clean up contaminated areas.
Some bacteria get energy by oxidising the hydrogen sulphide gas in the sediment on the ocean floor. Because there is no oxygen in the sediment to accept the electrons that are produced, bacteria such as Geobacter grow tiny filaments along which the electrons travel until they reach the oxygen in the seawater. This allows the respiration reaction to be completed.
To find out how other bacteria solve this problem, Lars Peter Nielsen of Aarhus University in Denmark and colleagues used an electron microscope to image electrically conducting Desulfobulbus bacteria in sediment samples. They found that individual bacteria, despite being only 3 to 4 micrometres long, are capable of organising themselves into giant power cables made up of several thousand bacteria. These cables can stretch to around 1 centimetre in length, connecting the deepest bacteria living in low-oxygen conditions with those in high-oxygen areas (see diagram).
Live electric grid
As the bacterial cells divide, the team found, they remain trapped end to end inside an ever-growing cable made up of their outer membranes. This sheath has internal fibrous ridges running along its length. It is unclear whether these fibres carry the electrons or act as insulation to help the electrons flow more quickly through the cells. Nielsen presented his group’s findings at the American Society for Microbiology’s general meeting in San Francisco this week.
The images show the extent of the bacteria-communications network – a cubic centimetre of sediment can contain up to 1 kilometre of compacted cable. As Desulfobulbaceae can span both the oxygen-poor and oxygen-rich regions of the seabed, the bacterial colony can monopolise sulphide oxidation in the soil, preventing other bacteria from using the resource. “It’s smart evolution,” says Prathap Parameswaran, who studies conducting microbes at Arizona State University in Phoenix.
“It’s smart evolution -the electron-carrying wires let the bacteria monopolise the energy resource”
The most important question to answer now is how the electrons are carried, says Yuri Gorby of the University of Southern California in Los Angeles. Once researchers understand the physics, they will be able to make “some remarkable biological achievements”, he says, ranging from understanding biogeochemical formations, creating medical devices that mimic the electron transmission, and using the bacteria to clean up contaminated areas.
2 July 2016 05:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
lectric bacteria come in all shapes and sizes. A few years ago, biologists discovered that some produce hair-like filaments that act as wires, ferrying electrons back and forth between the cells and their wider environment. They dubbed them microbial nanowires.
Lars Peter Nielsen and his colleagues at Aarhus University in Denmark have found that tens of thousands of electric bacteria can join together to form daisy chains that carry electrons over several centimetres – a huge distance for a bacterium only 3 or 4 micrometres long. It means that bacteria living in, say, seabed mud where no oxygen penetrates, can access oxygen dissolved in the seawater simply by holding hands with their friends.
Such bacteria are showing up everywhere we look, says Nielsen. One way to find out if you’re in the presence of these electron munchers is to put clumps of dirt in a shallow dish full of water, and gently swirl it. The dirt should fall apart. If it doesn’t, it’s likely that cables made of bacteria are holding it together.
Nielsen can spot the glimmer of the cables when he pulls soil apart and holds it up to sunlight (see video).
Flexible biocables
It’s more than just a bit of fun. Early work shows that such cables conduct electricity about as well as the wires that connect your toaster to the mains. That could open up interesting research avenues involving flexible, lab-grown biocables.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21428712-300-giant-living-power-cables-let-bacteria-respire
Lars Peter Nielsen and his colleagues at Aarhus University in Denmark have found that tens of thousands of electric bacteria can join together to form daisy chains that carry electrons over several centimetres – a huge distance for a bacterium only 3 or 4 micrometres long. It means that bacteria living in, say, seabed mud where no oxygen penetrates, can access oxygen dissolved in the seawater simply by holding hands with their friends.
Such bacteria are showing up everywhere we look, says Nielsen. One way to find out if you’re in the presence of these electron munchers is to put clumps of dirt in a shallow dish full of water, and gently swirl it. The dirt should fall apart. If it doesn’t, it’s likely that cables made of bacteria are holding it together.
Nielsen can spot the glimmer of the cables when he pulls soil apart and holds it up to sunlight (see video).
Flexible biocables
It’s more than just a bit of fun. Early work shows that such cables conduct electricity about as well as the wires that connect your toaster to the mains. That could open up interesting research avenues involving flexible, lab-grown biocables.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21428712-300-giant-living-power-cables-let-bacteria-respire
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21428712-300-giant-living-power-cables-let-bacteria-respire
2 July 2016 05:47
Margus Meigo commented on Justin Givler's post.
Not for me
2 July 2016 05:43
Margus Meigo commented on Justin Givler's post.
I think there was similar news long time ago.. 70s.. before that.. someone told that there is alive thingy in electricity.. but it was looked as esoteric back then..
He had loads of tests also, to prove it.. have to find it.. might not be 70s but long time ago
He had loads of tests also, to prove it.. have to find it.. might not be 70s but long time ago
2 July 2016 05:43
Margus Meigo commented on Justin Givler's post.
Well, no wonder.. also all the electricutions.. these people souls probabaly ended up in part there as well..
one of the scariest thing i saw, was alive waking electricity monster AI when tripping.
Scary was as it just calculated and was able to do a lot.. and had waking rage of emotions in bare form.. manipulated by alien like communists minds to be pissed at some section of world natural people .. like directing zombie bull at someone by red scarf
one of the scariest thing i saw, was alive waking electricity monster AI when tripping.
Scary was as it just calculated and was able to do a lot.. and had waking rage of emotions in bare form.. manipulated by alien like communists minds to be pissed at some section of world natural people .. like directing zombie bull at someone by red scarf
2 July 2016 05:38
Margus Meigo commented on Justin Givler's post.
Guy looked like "hey, i think i jump back there"
2 July 2016 05:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ahjaa.. enne kui keegi muretsema hakkab...
http://www.scifighting.com/2013/11/20/16325/12-sports-dangerous-mma/
http://www.scifighting.com/2013/11/20/16325/12-sports-dangerous-mma/
http://www.scifighting.com/2013/11/20/16325/12-sports-dangerous-mma/
2 July 2016 05:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But not about... how to get some of the humans who wish, fighting with some of these http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bd4_1402376765 (pead continnue vajutama)
Mida see vaene koerake küll sinna otsis.. kuid mis on huvitav. kui vaiksed nad koik on...
Koik nad... isegi inimesed .. kuidagi veider reaalsus onja..
Mida see vaene koerake küll sinna otsis.. kuid mis on huvitav. kui vaiksed nad koik on...
Koik nad... isegi inimesed .. kuidagi veider reaalsus onja..
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bd4_1402376765
2 July 2016 05:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Or that...
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/15613/title/Improving-the-Lives-of-Laboratory-Animals/
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/15613/title/Improving-the-Lives-of-Laboratory-Animals/
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view%2FarticleNo%2F15613%2Ftitle%2FImproving-the-Lives-of-Laboratory-Animals%2F
2 July 2016 05:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But as most times, in this times of year.. you can not really find proper separation between what you want, but end upo with something like that instead:
http://www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/5-awesome-organizations-fighting-to-end-animal-testing/
http://www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/5-awesome-organizations-fighting-to-end-animal-testing/
http://www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/5-awesome-organizations-fighting-to-end-animal-testing/
2 July 2016 05:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://nwrage.org/content/ethical-issues-genetic-engineering-and-transgenics
http://nwrage.org/content/ethical-issues-genetic-engineering-and-transgenics
2 July 2016 05:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2013/12/03/the-future-of-ancient-dna/
https://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2013/12/03/the-future-of-ancient-dna/
2 July 2016 05:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.biotechnologia-journal.org/Journal/BioTechnologia-85/Streszczenie-23847
http://www.biotechnologia-journal.org/Journal/BioTechnologia-85/Streszczenie-23847
2 July 2016 05:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So and now the main part.. about what am told before..
http://www.livescience.com/38972-how-to-resurrect-extinct-animals.html
http://www.livescience.com/38972-how-to-resurrect-extinct-animals.html
http://www.livescience.com/38972-how-to-resurrect-extinct-animals.html
2 July 2016 05:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/DevelopmentApprovalProcess/GeneticEngineering/GeneticallyEngineeredAnimals/ucm113605.htm
http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/DevelopmentApprovalProcess/GeneticEngineering/GeneticallyEngineeredAnimals/ucm113605.htm
2 July 2016 05:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.actionbioscience.org/biotechnology/margawati.html
http://www.actionbioscience.org/biotechnology/margawati.html
2 July 2016 05:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.bio.org/articles/genetically-engineered-animals-frequently-asked-questions
https://www.bio.org/articles/genetically-engineered-animals-frequently-asked-questions
2 July 2016 05:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.monmouth.edu/school-of-humanities-social-sciences/psych-research-labs.aspx
http://www.monmouth.edu/school-of-humanities-social-sciences/psych-research-labs.aspx
2 July 2016 05:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
while we off topic a bit, the lets keep up few more links that are related to a topic spin off:
http://blogs.harvard.edu/billofhealth/2013/01/14/guest-post-on-animal-research-animal-research-is-an-ethical-and-vital-tool-to-fight-disease/
http://blogs.harvard.edu/billofhealth/2013/01/14/guest-post-on-animal-research-animal-research-is-an-ethical-and-vital-tool-to-fight-disease/
http://blogs.harvard.edu/billofhealth/2013/01/14/guest-post-on-animal-research-animal-research-is-an-ethical-and-vital-tool-to-fight-disease/
2 July 2016 05:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Okey, CAn You now imagine numbers.. near 400 million PER YEAR of un curable... .. and we complained here about what? ... yes i know the maths does not ad up after 15 years but still.. and that’s after malaria.
" Dengue (also known as “bone breaker”) infects as many as 390 million people a year. It’s the second most significant mosquito-borne disease after malaria, but unlike malaria, dengue is increasing in both incidence and severity. There are no specific drugs nor licensed vaccines to treat this infectious disease, at least not yet. Its primary vector is Aedes aegypti, and researchers around the world have been developing a so-called self-limiting gene: When a transgenic male mates with a wild female, the transgene is passed to embryos through sperm, leading to larvae death before they’re old enough to start transmitting diseases.
In the last few years, a self-limiting strain called OX513A reached the field evaluation stage after extensive lab tests. Releases of OX513A males in the Cayman Islands in 2010 led to 80% suppression of a target population, while isolated field demonstrations in Brazil have achieved similarly successful results after six months."
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/dengue-fighting-mosquitoes-are-suppressing-wild-populations-brazil/
" Dengue (also known as “bone breaker”) infects as many as 390 million people a year. It’s the second most significant mosquito-borne disease after malaria, but unlike malaria, dengue is increasing in both incidence and severity. There are no specific drugs nor licensed vaccines to treat this infectious disease, at least not yet. Its primary vector is Aedes aegypti, and researchers around the world have been developing a so-called self-limiting gene: When a transgenic male mates with a wild female, the transgene is passed to embryos through sperm, leading to larvae death before they’re old enough to start transmitting diseases.
In the last few years, a self-limiting strain called OX513A reached the field evaluation stage after extensive lab tests. Releases of OX513A males in the Cayman Islands in 2010 led to 80% suppression of a target population, while isolated field demonstrations in Brazil have achieved similarly successful results after six months."
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/dengue-fighting-mosquitoes-are-suppressing-wild-populations-brazil/
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/dengue-fighting-mosquitoes-are-suppressing-wild-populations-brazil/
2 July 2016 05:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So i basically re-discovered a sport for my self again, for a moment, at least i have some kind of vague picture now what is the state of this Art, and what needs to be helped, to save on it, what can be saved.
Still will try to resurrect some proper sword and gladiator fighting (but no animals, unless they are made in lab, just for that )
But if one google's "laboratory fighting animals" to find some local bio-tech lab who perhaps can help with some orders, of some beings You have seen in Videogames, then only pages you seem to end up with are "Fighting Animal Testing " that is completely different genre of interest, .. even thought, particularly related also, but not helpful besides helping to find some Lab names maybe.
No and there is NO interest for a Animal AND animal fighting, unless they do it for them self, and even then, it is frankly their own business not for us to televize.. but hey, they do not mind.. as long we not initiate it.
For sure.. TV networks will have in future some great experiments to carry..in fight with miny T-Rex or something .. be sure i be there then.. and making fight honest.. or it will lose the point of it.. no need to go with a massive spear or shoot gun to a dear beast if ya wanna man up, next level... of-course, by then we have Cyborg humans also who care little if You bite their hand off ... just can you imagine all the pop corn that will be eaten by these who just looking that Real Live Entertainment Network and congratulating world for ones success
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/02/25/frankenstein_s_cat_cyborg_roaches_glow_in_the_dark_animals_and_other_biotech.html
Still will try to resurrect some proper sword and gladiator fighting (but no animals, unless they are made in lab, just for that )
But if one google's "laboratory fighting animals" to find some local bio-tech lab who perhaps can help with some orders, of some beings You have seen in Videogames, then only pages you seem to end up with are "Fighting Animal Testing " that is completely different genre of interest, .. even thought, particularly related also, but not helpful besides helping to find some Lab names maybe.
No and there is NO interest for a Animal AND animal fighting, unless they do it for them self, and even then, it is frankly their own business not for us to televize.. but hey, they do not mind.. as long we not initiate it.
For sure.. TV networks will have in future some great experiments to carry..in fight with miny T-Rex or something .. be sure i be there then.. and making fight honest.. or it will lose the point of it.. no need to go with a massive spear or shoot gun to a dear beast if ya wanna man up, next level... of-course, by then we have Cyborg humans also who care little if You bite their hand off ... just can you imagine all the pop corn that will be eaten by these who just looking that Real Live Entertainment Network and congratulating world for ones success
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/02/25/frankenstein_s_cat_cyborg_roaches_glow_in_the_dark_animals_and_other_biotech.html
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/02/25/frankenstein_s_cat_cyborg_roaches_glow_in_the_dark_animals_and_other_biotech.html
2 July 2016 05:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lost few Good ones.. but they are under RIO i think, if ya look the links on main post, under,
This is how HONEST, is looking a like. with out wishles and entertainment, but real 2 man wanna really try out who is the One
(ending part, proper)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr9gfNd7OJI
Okey, back to hippy tippy psychedelic Love topic s now!
This is how HONEST, is looking a like. with out wishles and entertainment, but real 2 man wanna really try out who is the One
(ending part, proper)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr9gfNd7OJI
Okey, back to hippy tippy psychedelic Love topic s now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr9gfNd7OJI
2 July 2016 04:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This is why the Rios and Mecas keep it real:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAY7yBQwP3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAY7yBQwP3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAY7yBQwP3c
2 July 2016 04:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#ValeTuDo
Okey that did not seem hones, and kind of suck in to rules.. as after third fight.. who can.. specially if someone is monitoring you up like that.. ganging up..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QExVeZGpG8E
Okey that did not seem hones, and kind of suck in to rules.. as after third fight.. who can.. specially if someone is monitoring you up like that.. ganging up..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QExVeZGpG8E
2 July 2016 04:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#ValeTuDo
thats how wresling is sorted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZlPArormgk
thats how wresling is sorted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZlPArormgk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZlPArormgk
2 July 2016 04:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#ValeTuDo
Proper, no one bothering fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-_C7G5UAVc
Proper, no one bothering fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-_C7G5UAVc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-_C7G5UAVc
2 July 2016 04:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#ValeTuDo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr88kkBZjTk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr88kkBZjTk
2 July 2016 04:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So some examples of REAL, proper fight, near real, as much we can, with out some third guy bothering, more then needed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv8PUayb1E4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv8PUayb1E4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv8PUayb1E4
2 July 2016 04:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://iagranja.blogspot.com.ee/2009/01/morreu-he-man-o-circo-esta-de-luto.html
http://iagranja.blogspot.com.ee/2009/01/morreu-he-man-o-circo-esta-de-luto.html
2 July 2016 04:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://blogdocrato.blogspot.com.ee/2014/05/he-man-por-emerson-monteiro.html
http://blogdocrato.blogspot.com.ee/2014/05/he-man-por-emerson-monteiro.html
2 July 2016 04:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
...ofcurse he's on orkut
http://orkut.google.com/c7845158-t79571e6d94d1ddd8.html
http://orkut.google.com/c7845158-t79571e6d94d1ddd8.html
http://orkut.google.com/c7845158-t79571e6d94d1ddd8.html
2 July 2016 04:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Newer got was for him a fight a fun or was some friendly fights done with bare hand for reason
2 July 2016 04:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okry and if ya wanna get really confused look at that one again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zDq0GIX6MQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zDq0GIX6MQ
2 July 2016 04:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBz8IcXP93A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBz8IcXP93A
2 July 2016 04:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Some more fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9lOGruJobY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9lOGruJobY
2 July 2016 04:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Even thought, in here he fights with kind of kids for fun, but dangerous kids anyway. but forum talk people say they know for real him
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/UnderGround/1-HE-Man-vs-6-guys-in-a-ring-video-from-brazil:1808646
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/UnderGround/1-HE-Man-vs-6-guys-in-a-ring-video-from-brazil:1808646
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/UnderGround/1-HE-Man-vs-6-guys-in-a-ring-video-from-brazil:1808646
2 July 2016 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Proper old video on hes youth...
Rey Zulu is considered as proper limit against who fighters can face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0u5C1NId38
Rey Zulu is considered as proper limit against who fighters can face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0u5C1NId38
2 July 2016 04:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3u66_vVO0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3u66_vVO0A
2 July 2016 04:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And many of the ones, few counted here who was but is no more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-1#Fouls See how many rules and fouls.
( kickboxing: http://www.k-1.tv/, http://www.k-1wg.com/ HOng Kong. Mike Kim, Alin Hălmăgean, Ned Kuruc) .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_(mixed_martial_arts) (Shigeru Saeki , Japan, http://www.deep2001.com/ Pride Fighting Championships. Dream Stage Entertainment (DSE), yakuza, http://www.dreamofficial.com/ Keiichi Sasahara, Head and Matchmaker, Daisuke Sato, Productions Director - Parent Real Entertainment Co. Ltd. https://www.ufc.tv/category/pride-library )
'https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_and_Entertainment_Group (bankgroup (Dream, K-1 / Sadaharu Tanikawa. www.feg-jp.com) )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s ( Fighting and Entertainment Group, http://www.hero-s.com/ , Hero's was a Japanese mixed martial arts promotion operated by Fighting and Entertainment Group, the parent entity behind kickboxing organization K-1 . The promotion was handled by former Rings head Akira Maeda)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_Fighting_Championships ( Japan, (owned last by Zuffa - america. ) Successor: Ultimate Fighting Championship, Pride Fighting Championships (Pride or Pride FC, founded as KRS-Pride) , MMA, http://www.pridefc.com/, Nobuyuki Sakakibara and Nobuhiko Takada., Dream, Fighting and Entertainment Group, Dream Stage Entertainment , Nobuyuki Sakakibara. Zuffa: Frank Fertitta III Lorenzo Fertitta, Lorenzo Fertitta (Chairman & CEO) Dana Whit, Flash Entertainment )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pride_FC_events
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cage_Rage_Championships (UK, ProElite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProElite, Cage Rage Championships, also known as Cage Rage, was a United Kingdom-based, mixed martial arts promotion , Dave O'Donnell , Andy Geer )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_Xtreme_Combat ( USA, ProElite, William Kelly President & Chief Operating Officer, Chairman, Paul Feller, Glenn Golenberg, Douglas De Luca, Elite Xtreme Combat, also known as EliteXC, was a United States-based mixed martial arts (MMA) organization owned and operated by ProElite. It was founded as a partnership between Showtime Networks and ProElite and officially )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProElite (ProElite, Inc. is an American entertainment and media company involved in the promotion of mixed martial arts (MMA).William Kelly President & Chief Operating Officer, Glenn Golenberg, Douglas De Luca, Lloyd Bryan Adams, Executive Producer http://lloydbryanadams.wordpress.com/ , Subsidiaries EliteXC, Cage Rage, Spirit MC, Icon Sport, King of the Cage , http://www.proelite.com/ )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cage_Rage_Championships (London, ProElite, Cage Rage Championships, also known as Cage Rage, was a United Kingdom-based, mixed martial arts promotion)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fight_League ( Jay Larkin, The International Fight League was an American mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion billed as the world's first MMA league.
The IFL was founded January 7, 2006 by real- estate developer Kurt Otto and Wizard magazine founder Gareb Shamus, two well-financed devotees of mixed martial arts who were inspired by the Mark Kerr documentary The Smashing Machine.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Victory_Road ( Japan, Naoya Kinoshita, http://www.src-official.com/pc/ , World Victory Road (WVR) is a defunct Japanese Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) organization which promoted the Sengoku Raiden Championship (SRC) in Japan. The organization was formed in 2007 following the purchase of PRIDE FC by Zuffa. It operated in conjunction with the Japan Mixed Martial Arts Federation (JMM). )
Donald Trump :p
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affliction_Entertainment ( Tom Atencio (vice president), Donald Trump (major shareholder), Golden Boy Promotions
Affliction Entertainment was an American mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion company created by Affliction Clothing in 2008. The UFC prohibited its fighters from wearing Affliction clothing after learning Affliction was applying to become an MMA fight promotion. Donald Trump, who owned a significant equity stake in Affliction Entertainment, was often seen sporting Affliction T-shirts at the PPV events. Although the promotion bears the Affliction name, it was not run by Affliction Clothing, but was an independent branch of the company)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_Fighting_Championship ( Legend Entertainment Limited, http://www.legendfc.com/ Legend Fighting Championship (Legend FC) was a Hong Kong-based mixed martial arts (MMA) organisation which invited national champion fighters from throughout the Asia-Pacific to compete for regional supremacy. Legend was unique among MMA tournaments in that it focused exclusively on native Asia-Pacific fighters.
Legend was co-founded by Mike Haskamp and Chris Pollak, former classmates and Rugby teammates.
CA Media and Diamond Ridge Ventures., Peter Chernin (former President and COO of News Corporation) and Paul Aiello (former CEO of STAR TV and head of media investment banking at Morgan Stanley Asia). Diamond Ridge is a sports and media investment fund.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancrase ( Japan, Masakazu Sakai (CEO), Masakatsu Funaki (co-founder), Minoru Suzuki (co-founder), Website http://pancrase.co.jp/en. Pancrase Inc. was a mixed martial arts promotion company founded in Japan in 1993 by professional wrestlers Masakatsu Funaki and Minoru Suzuki
The name was based on pankration, a fighting sport in the Ancient Olympic Games. Suzuki and Funaki practiced catch wrestling. They based the promotion and its rules on professional wrestling. The promotion claimed that its contests consisted of shoots (actual unscripted wrestling) rather than works (scripted performances). The promotion's champions were called King of Pancrase )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Wrestling_Federation_(Japan) (The original Japanese-based Universal Wrestling Federation (UWF) was a Japanese professional wrestling promotion from 1984 to 1986, formed by wrestlers who had left New Japan Pro Wrestling. It was a pioneer in the shoot-style of pro-wrestling, which emphasized realistic moves. It was revived as the Newborn UWF in 1988. Newborn UWF lasted until 1990. It was revived again in 1991 as Union of Wrestling Forces International (UWF International or UWFi), which in turn lasted until 1996. Rusher Kimura, Akira Maeda, Ryuma Go, Mach Hayato, and Gran Hamada, Yoshiaki Fujiwara, Nobuhiko Takada, Satoru Sayama (the original Tiger Mask) and Kazuo Yamazaki, and this changed the orientation of the UWF's wrestling from the traditional style to a more martial arts oriented style.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_Fighting_Championships (Zuffa, Pride Fighting Championships (Pride or Pride FC, founded as KRS-Pride) was a Japanese mixed martial arts (MMA) organization founded by Nobuyuki Sakakibara and Nobuhiko Takada. http://www.pridefc.com/ )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustle_(professional_wrestling) ..like what kind of ... is that... okey, maybe ya got a plot but.. hey..
Maybe these kind of directions can save:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puroresu (Growing out of origins in the traditional US style of wrestling, it has become an entity in itself. Japanese pro wrestling is distinct in its psychology and presentation of the sport. It is treated as a legitimate fight, with fewer theatrics; the stories told in Japanese matches are about a fighter's spirit and perseverance. In strong style, the style most typically associated with puroresu, full contact martial arts strikes and shoot submission holds are implemented )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-1#Fouls See how many rules and fouls.
( kickboxing: http://www.k-1.tv/, http://www.k-1wg.com/ HOng Kong. Mike Kim, Alin Hălmăgean, Ned Kuruc) .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_(mixed_martial_arts) (Shigeru Saeki , Japan, http://www.deep2001.com/ Pride Fighting Championships. Dream Stage Entertainment (DSE), yakuza, http://www.dreamofficial.com/ Keiichi Sasahara, Head and Matchmaker, Daisuke Sato, Productions Director - Parent Real Entertainment Co. Ltd. https://www.ufc.tv/category/pride-library )
'https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_and_Entertainment_Group (bankgroup (Dream, K-1 / Sadaharu Tanikawa. www.feg-jp.com) )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s ( Fighting and Entertainment Group, http://www.hero-s.com/ , Hero's was a Japanese mixed martial arts promotion operated by Fighting and Entertainment Group, the parent entity behind kickboxing organization K-1 . The promotion was handled by former Rings head Akira Maeda)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_Fighting_Championships ( Japan, (owned last by Zuffa - america. ) Successor: Ultimate Fighting Championship, Pride Fighting Championships (Pride or Pride FC, founded as KRS-Pride) , MMA, http://www.pridefc.com/, Nobuyuki Sakakibara and Nobuhiko Takada., Dream, Fighting and Entertainment Group, Dream Stage Entertainment , Nobuyuki Sakakibara. Zuffa: Frank Fertitta III Lorenzo Fertitta, Lorenzo Fertitta (Chairman & CEO) Dana Whit, Flash Entertainment )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pride_FC_events
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cage_Rage_Championships (UK, ProElite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProElite, Cage Rage Championships, also known as Cage Rage, was a United Kingdom-based, mixed martial arts promotion , Dave O'Donnell , Andy Geer )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_Xtreme_Combat ( USA, ProElite, William Kelly President & Chief Operating Officer, Chairman, Paul Feller, Glenn Golenberg, Douglas De Luca, Elite Xtreme Combat, also known as EliteXC, was a United States-based mixed martial arts (MMA) organization owned and operated by ProElite. It was founded as a partnership between Showtime Networks and ProElite and officially )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProElite (ProElite, Inc. is an American entertainment and media company involved in the promotion of mixed martial arts (MMA).William Kelly President & Chief Operating Officer, Glenn Golenberg, Douglas De Luca, Lloyd Bryan Adams, Executive Producer http://lloydbryanadams.wordpress.com/ , Subsidiaries EliteXC, Cage Rage, Spirit MC, Icon Sport, King of the Cage , http://www.proelite.com/ )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cage_Rage_Championships (London, ProElite, Cage Rage Championships, also known as Cage Rage, was a United Kingdom-based, mixed martial arts promotion)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fight_League ( Jay Larkin, The International Fight League was an American mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion billed as the world's first MMA league.
The IFL was founded January 7, 2006 by real- estate developer Kurt Otto and Wizard magazine founder Gareb Shamus, two well-financed devotees of mixed martial arts who were inspired by the Mark Kerr documentary The Smashing Machine.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Victory_Road ( Japan, Naoya Kinoshita, http://www.src-official.com/pc/ , World Victory Road (WVR) is a defunct Japanese Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) organization which promoted the Sengoku Raiden Championship (SRC) in Japan. The organization was formed in 2007 following the purchase of PRIDE FC by Zuffa. It operated in conjunction with the Japan Mixed Martial Arts Federation (JMM). )
Donald Trump :p
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affliction_Entertainment ( Tom Atencio (vice president), Donald Trump (major shareholder), Golden Boy Promotions
Affliction Entertainment was an American mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion company created by Affliction Clothing in 2008. The UFC prohibited its fighters from wearing Affliction clothing after learning Affliction was applying to become an MMA fight promotion. Donald Trump, who owned a significant equity stake in Affliction Entertainment, was often seen sporting Affliction T-shirts at the PPV events. Although the promotion bears the Affliction name, it was not run by Affliction Clothing, but was an independent branch of the company)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_Fighting_Championship ( Legend Entertainment Limited, http://www.legendfc.com/ Legend Fighting Championship (Legend FC) was a Hong Kong-based mixed martial arts (MMA) organisation which invited national champion fighters from throughout the Asia-Pacific to compete for regional supremacy. Legend was unique among MMA tournaments in that it focused exclusively on native Asia-Pacific fighters.
Legend was co-founded by Mike Haskamp and Chris Pollak, former classmates and Rugby teammates.
CA Media and Diamond Ridge Ventures., Peter Chernin (former President and COO of News Corporation) and Paul Aiello (former CEO of STAR TV and head of media investment banking at Morgan Stanley Asia). Diamond Ridge is a sports and media investment fund.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancrase ( Japan, Masakazu Sakai (CEO), Masakatsu Funaki (co-founder), Minoru Suzuki (co-founder), Website http://pancrase.co.jp/en. Pancrase Inc. was a mixed martial arts promotion company founded in Japan in 1993 by professional wrestlers Masakatsu Funaki and Minoru Suzuki
The name was based on pankration, a fighting sport in the Ancient Olympic Games. Suzuki and Funaki practiced catch wrestling. They based the promotion and its rules on professional wrestling. The promotion claimed that its contests consisted of shoots (actual unscripted wrestling) rather than works (scripted performances). The promotion's champions were called King of Pancrase )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Wrestling_Federation_(Japan) (The original Japanese-based Universal Wrestling Federation (UWF) was a Japanese professional wrestling promotion from 1984 to 1986, formed by wrestlers who had left New Japan Pro Wrestling. It was a pioneer in the shoot-style of pro-wrestling, which emphasized realistic moves. It was revived as the Newborn UWF in 1988. Newborn UWF lasted until 1990. It was revived again in 1991 as Union of Wrestling Forces International (UWF International or UWFi), which in turn lasted until 1996. Rusher Kimura, Akira Maeda, Ryuma Go, Mach Hayato, and Gran Hamada, Yoshiaki Fujiwara, Nobuhiko Takada, Satoru Sayama (the original Tiger Mask) and Kazuo Yamazaki, and this changed the orientation of the UWF's wrestling from the traditional style to a more martial arts oriented style.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_Fighting_Championships (Zuffa, Pride Fighting Championships (Pride or Pride FC, founded as KRS-Pride) was a Japanese mixed martial arts (MMA) organization founded by Nobuyuki Sakakibara and Nobuhiko Takada. http://www.pridefc.com/ )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustle_(professional_wrestling) ..like what kind of ... is that... okey, maybe ya got a plot but.. hey..
Maybe these kind of directions can save:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puroresu (Growing out of origins in the traditional US style of wrestling, it has become an entity in itself. Japanese pro wrestling is distinct in its psychology and presentation of the sport. It is treated as a legitimate fight, with fewer theatrics; the stories told in Japanese matches are about a fighter's spirit and perseverance. In strong style, the style most typically associated with puroresu, full contact martial arts strikes and shoot submission holds are implemented )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-1#Fouls
2 July 2016 04:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(see on see kus Baruto Kaito ka toimetab ja Fedor Emelianenko)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rizin_Fighting_Federation ( Japan, former Pride Fighting Championship president Nobuyuki Sakakibara, Nobuhiko Takada , http://www.rizinff.com/en/, ..
AffiliatioN: Bellator MMA, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellator_MMA
United States Bellator MMA
Brazil Jungle Fight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle_Fight
Japan Deep
Japan Pancrase https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancrase
Japan VTJ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vale_Tudo_Japan
Japan K-1
Japan Shoot boxing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoot_boxing
South Korea Road FC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROAD_Fighting_Championship
United Kingdom BAMMA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAMMA
Poland KSW https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konfrontacja_Sztuk_Walki
Lithuania Lithuania Bushido Federation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuania_Bushido_Federation
Russia Russian MMA Union
Czech Republic Gladiator Championship Fighting )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellator_MMA ( Owner: Viacom ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viacom , Bellator MMA (formerly known as Bellator Fighting Championships) is an American mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion company. Bellator was founded in 2008 by Chairman and CEO Bjorn Rebney. , Scott Coker, Rich Chou, http://www.bellator.com/ , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bellator_events, Bellator features "The Toughest Tournament in Sports" )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rizin_Fighting_Federation ( Japan, former Pride Fighting Championship president Nobuyuki Sakakibara, Nobuhiko Takada , http://www.rizinff.com/en/, ..
AffiliatioN: Bellator MMA, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellator_MMA
United States Bellator MMA
Brazil Jungle Fight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle_Fight
Japan Deep
Japan Pancrase https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancrase
Japan VTJ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vale_Tudo_Japan
Japan K-1
Japan Shoot boxing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoot_boxing
South Korea Road FC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROAD_Fighting_Championship
United Kingdom BAMMA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAMMA
Poland KSW https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konfrontacja_Sztuk_Walki
Lithuania Lithuania Bushido Federation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuania_Bushido_Federation
Russia Russian MMA Union
Czech Republic Gladiator Championship Fighting )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellator_MMA ( Owner: Viacom ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viacom , Bellator MMA (formerly known as Bellator Fighting Championships) is an American mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion company. Bellator was founded in 2008 by Chairman and CEO Bjorn Rebney. , Scott Coker, Rich Chou, http://www.bellator.com/ , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bellator_events, Bellator features "The Toughest Tournament in Sports" )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rizin_Fighting_Federation
2 July 2016 04:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 July 2016 04:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_martial_arts_rules#Unified_Rules_of_MMA ( FCC's current rules are based upon the Unified Rules of Mixed Martial Arts that were originally established by the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board and modified by theNevada State Athletic Commission. )
So She the ones who lay down the rules.. so small state.. but Global chnages great.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_State_Athletic_Control_Board (USA, Larry Hazzard, Sr., Commissioner Tony Orlando, Chairman
Agency : Larry Hazzard, Sr.
The New Jersey State Athletic Control Board (SACB) regulates all contests and exhibitions of unarmed combat within the state of New Jersey, including licensure and supervision of promoters, boxers, kickboxers, mixed martial arts fighters, seconds, ring officials, managers, and matchmakers. The Commission is the final authority on licensing matters, having the ability to approve, deny, revoke, or suspend all licenses for unarmed combat. http://www.state.nj.us/lps/sacb/ http://nj.gov/oag/ ..interesting logo also. )
Formerly part of the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement, the SACB is now a self-contained board within the Department of Law & Public Safety under the direction of the Office of the Attorney General.
These rules are also used by many other promotions within the United States and are mandatory for those states that have adopted the Unified Rules, and so have become the standard de facto set of rules for professional mixed martial arts across North America and Europe.
New Jersey was inhabited by Native Americans for more than 2,800 years, with historical tribes such as the Lenape along the coast. In the early 17th century, the Dutch and the Swedes made the first European settlements.
Around 180 million years ago, during the Jurassic Period, New Jersey bordered North Africa. The pressure of the collision between North America and Africa gave rise to the Appalachian Mountains. Around 18,000 years ago, the Ice Age resulted in glaciers that reached New Jersey. As the glaciers retreated, they left behind Lake Passaic, as well as many rivers, swamps, and gorges // so looking more in to that... also who inintiated law, where thye get this great idea etc.
Thats nice:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Seal_of_New_Jersey.svg
So She the ones who lay down the rules.. so small state.. but Global chnages great.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_State_Athletic_Control_Board (USA, Larry Hazzard, Sr., Commissioner Tony Orlando, Chairman
Agency : Larry Hazzard, Sr.
The New Jersey State Athletic Control Board (SACB) regulates all contests and exhibitions of unarmed combat within the state of New Jersey, including licensure and supervision of promoters, boxers, kickboxers, mixed martial arts fighters, seconds, ring officials, managers, and matchmakers. The Commission is the final authority on licensing matters, having the ability to approve, deny, revoke, or suspend all licenses for unarmed combat. http://www.state.nj.us/lps/sacb/ http://nj.gov/oag/ ..interesting logo also. )
Formerly part of the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement, the SACB is now a self-contained board within the Department of Law & Public Safety under the direction of the Office of the Attorney General.
These rules are also used by many other promotions within the United States and are mandatory for those states that have adopted the Unified Rules, and so have become the standard de facto set of rules for professional mixed martial arts across North America and Europe.
New Jersey was inhabited by Native Americans for more than 2,800 years, with historical tribes such as the Lenape along the coast. In the early 17th century, the Dutch and the Swedes made the first European settlements.
Around 180 million years ago, during the Jurassic Period, New Jersey bordered North Africa. The pressure of the collision between North America and Africa gave rise to the Appalachian Mountains. Around 18,000 years ago, the Ice Age resulted in glaciers that reached New Jersey. As the glaciers retreated, they left behind Lake Passaic, as well as many rivers, swamps, and gorges // so looking more in to that... also who inintiated law, where thye get this great idea etc.
Thats nice:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Seal_of_New_Jersey.svg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_martial_arts_rules#Unified_Rules_of_MMA
2 July 2016 04:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoot_boxing ( Shoot boxing (シュートボクシング) is both a combat sport and a stand-up fighting promotion company based in Tokyo, Japan. The organization was founded by former kickboxer Caesar Takeshi in 1985. http://shootboxing.org/new/ Shootboxing allows kicks, punches, knees, elbows, throws, and standing submissions (chokeholds, armlocks and wristlocks).)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooto (Japan, Sayama Satoru, Shooto is a combat sport/mixed martial arts system and mixed martial arts organization that is governed by the Shooto Association and the International Shooto Commission. Shooto was originally formed in 1985, as an organization and as a particular fighting system derived from shoot wrestling. Practitioners are referred to as shooters, similarly to practitioners of shoot wrestling. Shooto rules have evolved such that their events are now true mixed martial arts competitions.
Shooto was established as a "New Martial arts"(Shin-Kakutōgi) in 1985 by Satoru Sayama (the original Tiger Mask), a Japanese professional wrestler trained in shoot wrestling, who wished to create a sport that revolved around a realistic and effective fighting system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Shooto_Events http://www.shooto.com.au/ http://www.kakutogi.net/ http://www.shootofinland.com/ http://www.shootoitaly.com/ http://www.x-shooto.jp/ http://www.usashooto.com/ )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_of_War_Fighting_Championship ( China: The Art of War Fighting Championship (英雄榜/Art of War/AOW) is a Chinese professional mixed martial arts promotion, Adoria Entertainment Group, http://www.artofwarfc.com/ Art of War is the first mixed martial arts organization to be broadcast by CCTV-5, China's largest sports broadcasting platform with over 1 billion audience coverage in China and internationally. Art of War IV, broadcast on December 29, 2006 set a record as the single largest mixed martial arts tournament broadcast in the world.
The Art of War Fighting Championship was founded by Brazilian Jiu-jitsu instructor Andrew Pi and his younger brother Konrad Pi, both Chinese Americans living in California. They successfully made contact with the Chinese government and obtained the proper permits for hosting a sporting event. The Pi family eventually found a few potential sponsors, including football star Rashaan Salaam
The Art of War Fighting Championship tournaments are conducted according to the Art of War Unified Rules System, which allows for a variety of striking and submission techniques including soccer kicks, stomps, elbows, and knees to a grounded opponent. )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle_Fight ( Brazil, mixed martial arts and kickboxing, Wallid Ismail, http://www.junglefight.net.br/ , Jungle Fight was founded by pioneering MMA fighter and long-time Brazilian Jiu Jitsu black belt, Wallid Ismail., Ismail's nickname "Paraíba," is a term often applied to those in Brazil that come from outside of Rio de Janeiro. The adjective is similar to the term "redneck" in the United States, Orthodox, )
Good example of Brazilian fighter:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulo_Thiago ( Black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu, Black belt in Judo, member of Polícia Militar do Distrito Federal and works for BOPE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batalh%C3%A3o_de_Opera%C3%A7%C3%B5es_Policiais_Especiais , a special forces unit, Due to the nature of crime in favelas, BOPE units have extensive experience in urban warfare as well as progression in confined and restricted environments. It also utilizes equipment deemed more powerful than traditional civilian law enforcement. ) .. so more some of that usage of Your skills..
And: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gracie_family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machado_family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooto (Japan, Sayama Satoru, Shooto is a combat sport/mixed martial arts system and mixed martial arts organization that is governed by the Shooto Association and the International Shooto Commission. Shooto was originally formed in 1985, as an organization and as a particular fighting system derived from shoot wrestling. Practitioners are referred to as shooters, similarly to practitioners of shoot wrestling. Shooto rules have evolved such that their events are now true mixed martial arts competitions.
Shooto was established as a "New Martial arts"(Shin-Kakutōgi) in 1985 by Satoru Sayama (the original Tiger Mask), a Japanese professional wrestler trained in shoot wrestling, who wished to create a sport that revolved around a realistic and effective fighting system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Shooto_Events http://www.shooto.com.au/ http://www.kakutogi.net/ http://www.shootofinland.com/ http://www.shootoitaly.com/ http://www.x-shooto.jp/ http://www.usashooto.com/ )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_of_War_Fighting_Championship ( China: The Art of War Fighting Championship (英雄榜/Art of War/AOW) is a Chinese professional mixed martial arts promotion, Adoria Entertainment Group, http://www.artofwarfc.com/ Art of War is the first mixed martial arts organization to be broadcast by CCTV-5, China's largest sports broadcasting platform with over 1 billion audience coverage in China and internationally. Art of War IV, broadcast on December 29, 2006 set a record as the single largest mixed martial arts tournament broadcast in the world.
The Art of War Fighting Championship was founded by Brazilian Jiu-jitsu instructor Andrew Pi and his younger brother Konrad Pi, both Chinese Americans living in California. They successfully made contact with the Chinese government and obtained the proper permits for hosting a sporting event. The Pi family eventually found a few potential sponsors, including football star Rashaan Salaam
The Art of War Fighting Championship tournaments are conducted according to the Art of War Unified Rules System, which allows for a variety of striking and submission techniques including soccer kicks, stomps, elbows, and knees to a grounded opponent. )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle_Fight ( Brazil, mixed martial arts and kickboxing, Wallid Ismail, http://www.junglefight.net.br/ , Jungle Fight was founded by pioneering MMA fighter and long-time Brazilian Jiu Jitsu black belt, Wallid Ismail., Ismail's nickname "Paraíba," is a term often applied to those in Brazil that come from outside of Rio de Janeiro. The adjective is similar to the term "redneck" in the United States, Orthodox, )
Good example of Brazilian fighter:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulo_Thiago ( Black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu, Black belt in Judo, member of Polícia Militar do Distrito Federal and works for BOPE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batalh%C3%A3o_de_Opera%C3%A7%C3%B5es_Policiais_Especiais , a special forces unit, Due to the nature of crime in favelas, BOPE units have extensive experience in urban warfare as well as progression in confined and restricted environments. It also utilizes equipment deemed more powerful than traditional civilian law enforcement. ) .. so more some of that usage of Your skills..
And: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gracie_family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machado_family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoot_boxing
2 July 2016 04:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
OKey thats wrestling, but still important one related
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Japan_Pro_Wrestling ( All Japan Pro Wrestling (オールジャパン・プロレスリング Ōru Japan Puroresuringu?, originally 全日本プロレス Zen Nihon Puroresu) (AJPW/AJP) is a Japanese professional wrestling promotion established in 1972. All Japan Pro Wrestling still remains one of the most popular puroresu promotions still in operation. Shohei Baba, Jun Akiyama , Zen Nihon Puroresu Innovation)
The promotion was founded by Shohei "Giant" Baba (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shohei_Baba ) and the Momota brothers, Mitsuo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsuo_Momota and Yoshihiro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshihiro_Momota, sons of Rikidōzan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rikid%C5%8Dzan
The inaugural roster included Baba, Mitsuo Momota, Akio Sato, Samson Kutsuwada, Motoshi Okuma and Mashio Koma. Thunder Sugiyama, who had recently left International Wrestling Enterprise, also came along to help and brought some lower-level IWE wrestlers with him on a freelance basis.
Baba established the Pacific Wrestling Federation (PWF) as the governing body for all future titles in All Japan. In the beginning the PWF recognized a world heavyweight championship and several "regional championships" given as billing to foreign stars depending from which region they came from, but after All Japan joined the National Wrestling Alliance, the PWF world title was downgraded to a regional championship.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Pro_Wrestling_Alliance (Nihon Puroresu Kyōkai (日本プロレス協会, Japan Pro Wrestling Alliance or Japan[ese] Wrestling Association) was the first professional wrestling promotion to be based in Japan. It operated from 1953 to 1973.)
Nice logo, suprising.
Rikidōzan, a former rikishi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rikid%C5%8Dzan (sumo wrestling practitioner) who had debuted as a Western-style professional wrestler in 1951, decided in 1953 to establish a territory that would represent the National Wrestling Alliance in Japan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWF_International_Heavyweight_Championship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Japan_Pro_Wrestling (Japan, 1972, Naoki Sugabayashi, Katsuhiko Harada, http://www.njpw.co.jp/ New Japan Pro-Wrestling Co., Ltd. (新日本プロレス株式会社 Shin Nihon Puroresu Kabushiki-kaisha?), operating as New Japan Pro-Wrestling (新日本プロレス Shin Nihon Puroresu?) and sometimes referred to as NJPW or simply New Japan, is a major Japanese puroresu professional wrestling promotion founded in January 1972 by Antonio Inoki. In 2005, Inoki sold the promotion to Yuke's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuke%27s videogame company, who later sold it to Bushiroad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushiroad cardgames in 2012. Naoki Sugabayashi has served as the Chairman of the promotion since September 2013, while Katsuhiko Harada has served as the President of the promotion since February 2016.)
And also the american: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE ( World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc. (d/b/a WWE) is an American publicly traded, privately controlled entertainment company that deals primarily in professional wrestling, with major revenue sources also coming from film, music, product licensing, and direct product sales. WWE also refers to the professional wrestling promotion itself, founded by Jess McMahon and Toots Mondt in 1952 as Capitol Wrestling Corporation. As of 2014, it is the largest wrestling promotion in the world, holding over 300 events a year, and broadcasting to about 36 million viewers in more than 150 countries.). Founders: Vince McMahon
Linda McMahon. Vince McMahon (Chairman and CEO), Stephanie McMahon (Chief Brand Officer), Paul "Triple H" Levesque. http://www.wwe.com/
Okey enought about that.. as there is to many wrestling org to count for now..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Japan_Pro_Wrestling ( All Japan Pro Wrestling (オールジャパン・プロレスリング Ōru Japan Puroresuringu?, originally 全日本プロレス Zen Nihon Puroresu) (AJPW/AJP) is a Japanese professional wrestling promotion established in 1972. All Japan Pro Wrestling still remains one of the most popular puroresu promotions still in operation. Shohei Baba, Jun Akiyama , Zen Nihon Puroresu Innovation)
The promotion was founded by Shohei "Giant" Baba (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shohei_Baba ) and the Momota brothers, Mitsuo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsuo_Momota and Yoshihiro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshihiro_Momota, sons of Rikidōzan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rikid%C5%8Dzan
The inaugural roster included Baba, Mitsuo Momota, Akio Sato, Samson Kutsuwada, Motoshi Okuma and Mashio Koma. Thunder Sugiyama, who had recently left International Wrestling Enterprise, also came along to help and brought some lower-level IWE wrestlers with him on a freelance basis.
Baba established the Pacific Wrestling Federation (PWF) as the governing body for all future titles in All Japan. In the beginning the PWF recognized a world heavyweight championship and several "regional championships" given as billing to foreign stars depending from which region they came from, but after All Japan joined the National Wrestling Alliance, the PWF world title was downgraded to a regional championship.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Pro_Wrestling_Alliance (Nihon Puroresu Kyōkai (日本プロレス協会, Japan Pro Wrestling Alliance or Japan[ese] Wrestling Association) was the first professional wrestling promotion to be based in Japan. It operated from 1953 to 1973.)
Nice logo, suprising.
Rikidōzan, a former rikishi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rikid%C5%8Dzan (sumo wrestling practitioner) who had debuted as a Western-style professional wrestler in 1951, decided in 1953 to establish a territory that would represent the National Wrestling Alliance in Japan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWF_International_Heavyweight_Championship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Japan_Pro_Wrestling (Japan, 1972, Naoki Sugabayashi, Katsuhiko Harada, http://www.njpw.co.jp/ New Japan Pro-Wrestling Co., Ltd. (新日本プロレス株式会社 Shin Nihon Puroresu Kabushiki-kaisha?), operating as New Japan Pro-Wrestling (新日本プロレス Shin Nihon Puroresu?) and sometimes referred to as NJPW or simply New Japan, is a major Japanese puroresu professional wrestling promotion founded in January 1972 by Antonio Inoki. In 2005, Inoki sold the promotion to Yuke's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuke%27s videogame company, who later sold it to Bushiroad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushiroad cardgames in 2012. Naoki Sugabayashi has served as the Chairman of the promotion since September 2013, while Katsuhiko Harada has served as the President of the promotion since February 2016.)
And also the american: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE ( World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc. (d/b/a WWE) is an American publicly traded, privately controlled entertainment company that deals primarily in professional wrestling, with major revenue sources also coming from film, music, product licensing, and direct product sales. WWE also refers to the professional wrestling promotion itself, founded by Jess McMahon and Toots Mondt in 1952 as Capitol Wrestling Corporation. As of 2014, it is the largest wrestling promotion in the world, holding over 300 events a year, and broadcasting to about 36 million viewers in more than 150 countries.). Founders: Vince McMahon
Linda McMahon. Vince McMahon (Chairman and CEO), Stephanie McMahon (Chief Brand Officer), Paul "Triple H" Levesque. http://www.wwe.com/
Okey enought about that.. as there is to many wrestling org to count for now..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Japan_Pro_Wrestling
2 July 2016 04:11
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZST (Japan, mixed martial arts, Kōki Hioki, Jō Uehara , http://www.zst.jp/, DEEP, MMA, shoot boxing )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-1_Global (Russia: M-1 Global (Mixfight-1) or MMA-1 (Mixed martial arts-1) , Vadim Finkelchtein, Fedor Emelianenko, http://www.m-1global.com/ , http://www.mixfight.ru/, http://www.mixfight.com.ua/ , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M-1_Global_events )
Good example of Russian fighter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_Emelianenko - The Last Emperor (teacher Volk Han
Andrei Kopylov, Judo, Sambo: Vladimir Voronov, Boxing: Alexander Michkov, Muay Thai: Peter Teijsse, Kickboxing: Ernesto Hoost http://www.fedoremelianenko.tv/eng/ Member of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_and_Sport Champions for Peace )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuffa (USA: Frank Fertitta III Lorenzo Fertitta, Lorenzo Fertitta (Chairman & CEO) Dana Whit, Flash Entertainment, // Defunct: World Fighting Alliance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Fighting_Alliance John Lewis, Promoter/Match Maker, John Huntington, Producer: Louis Palazzo, Investor / Pride Fighting Championships, Japan / World Extreme Cagefighting (WEC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Extreme_Cagefighting Scott Adams and Reed Harris http://www.wec.tv/ / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strikeforce_(mixed_martial_arts) Scott Coker, http://www.strikeforce.com/ )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Fighting_Championship ( USA, Zuffa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_events , Art Davie, Campbell McLaren, John Milius, Rorion Gracie, Bob Meyrowitz, Lorenzo Fertitta, Chairman/CEO, Dana White, President, Marc Ratner, VP Regulatory Affairs, Joe Silva, VP Talent Relations/Matchmaker. http://www.ufc.com/ , MMA, Atheist.
an antitrust lawsuit was filed against Zuffa by several fighters, claiming the organization restricts fighters' control over their careers and earning potential, 2016, the investigation is still ongoing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xtreme_Fighting_Championships ( USA, Florida, Xtreme Fighting Championships (XFC) is a premier International mixed martial arts (MMA), http://www.xfcmma.com/, MMA, )
initiated niBy real sportman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Reality_Combat_Championship (Phillipines, http://urcc-mma.com/ , http://mmamanila.blogspot.com/, http://graciebarraphilippines.com/, http://www.sherdog.com/organizations/Universal-Reality-Combat-Championship-819 The URCC was founded in 2002 by Filipino BJJ Black belt Alvin Aguilar. )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Series_of_Fighting ( USA, Lasvegas, Carlos Silva (CEO), Ray Sefo (President), Michael Mersch, http://wsof.com/, )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respect_Fighting_Championship (Respect Fighting Championship (RESPECT.FC) is a mixed martial arts organization in Germany. It has won the GNP Award for the best German promotion, http://www.respectfc.de/, RESPECT.FC's rules differ somewhat from the North American Unified Rules)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROAD_Fighting_Championship ( Korea, Moon Hong Jung, CEO, Sang Min Park, VP, Bob Sapp, VP of global public relations , http://www.roadfc.com/)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ONE_Championship ( Singapore: Chatri Sityodtong, Chairman, Victor Cui, CEO, Rich Franklin, VP, Matt Hume , http://www.onefc.com/ ONE Championship (previously known as ONE Fighting Championship or ONE FC) is a Singapore-based mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_Fighting_Championship ( Canada: Maximum Fighting Championship is a Canadian mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion, Mark Pavelich (CEO), Dave Pavelich (Vice-President), Manon Pavelich (Treasurer/Tickets), Parent Pavelich Sports Inc., Website http://www.maximumfighting.com )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invicta_Fighting_Championships (USA, Shannon Knapp, Janet Martin, http://www.invictafc.com/ Invicta Fighting Championships, also known as Invicta FC ..OMG, look that logo, honest one.
was founded in 2012 by Janet Martin[2] a former VP with MMA organization Blackeye Promotions[3] and Shannon Knapp, who held positions at various levels, including executive positions with King of the Cage, World Fighting Alliance, International Fight League, Affliction Entertainment, UFC and Strikeforce., It has a strategic partnership with fellow Japanese MMA promotion Jewels )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewels_(mixed_martial_arts) ( Japan: Yuichi Ozono (president), Shigeru Saeki (supervisor), Parent Marverous Japan Co.,Ltd., Website http://www.deepjewels.com/ focused on female fighters. It's the direct successor of Smackgirl . It has a working relationship with fellow mixed martial arts promotion Deep presided by Shigeru Saeki (also the Jewels supervisor)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Cage ( USA, California, Terry Trebilcock, http://www.kingofthecage.com/, King of the Cage, also known as KOTC, is a mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellator_MMA ( Bjorn Rebney President 2008–2014, Scott Coker, Rich Chou, http://www.bellator.com/ Bellator MMA (formerly known as Bellator Fighting Championships) is an American mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vale_Tudo_Japan ( Japan, Vale Tudo Japan (VTJ) is an annual mixed martial arts competition held in Japan. Arranged by promotor Satoru Sayama, http://valetudojapan.com/, http://www.sherdog.com/organizations/Vale-Tudo-Japan-12 )
... ops again.. i guess good things can be more then once.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROAD_Fighting_Championship (Korea, Moon Hong Jung, CEO, Sang Min Park, VPBob Sapp, VP of global public relations, Website http://www.roadfc.com/ . ROAD Fighting Championship (ROAD FC) is a South Korea based mixed martial arts (MMA) . ROAD FC is founded by former national kickboxing champion, Moon Hong Jung.[2] It is the largest MMA organization in South Korea )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAMMA (UK: BAMMA is a mixed martial arts promotion based in the United Kingdom. It is considered by many as one if not the biggest MMA organizations in Europe, David Green, CEO Ashley Bothwell, Managing Director, Jude Samuel, Head Of Talent Relations & Combat Operations, Richard Blackburn, Creative Director, Matt Bourne, Head of Communications, Danny Iacovou, Production Manager, Andy Shepherd, Presenter, David Haye, Presenter, Jess Impiazzi, BAMMA Belle, Georgia Graham, Presenter, Buddae Johnson, Ring Announcer, http://www.bamma.com/ )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konfrontacja_Sztuk_Walki (Poland: Konfrontacja Sztuk Walki, better known by its acronym, KSW, is widely considered to be the premiere mixed martial arts organization in Poland, and one of the leading promotions in Europe. Martin Lewandowski, Maciej Kawulski, KSW Federation, http://www.konfrontacja.com/ )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuania_Bushido_Federation (Lihtuania, Lithuania Bushido Federation ( Lithuania Bushido Federation (Lithuanian: Lietuvos Bušido federacija), also known as Bushido Lithuania, is the largest combat sports promotion in Lithuania. Donatas Simanaitis (president), Col. Česlovas Jezerskas (honorary president), Website http://www.bushido.lt
LBF was founded in 1999 with the name Lietuvos Bušido RINGS federacija as the Lithuanian stable-branch of the Japanese promotion RINGS)
---- just here for the friendly neighbournes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Network_Rings ( Japanese: Fighting Network Rings, trademarked as RINGS, is a Japanese combat sport promotion, Akira Maeda, http://www.rings.co.jp/ Mitsuya Nagai,)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-1_Global (Russia: M-1 Global (Mixfight-1) or MMA-1 (Mixed martial arts-1) , Vadim Finkelchtein, Fedor Emelianenko, http://www.m-1global.com/ , http://www.mixfight.ru/, http://www.mixfight.com.ua/ , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M-1_Global_events )
Good example of Russian fighter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_Emelianenko - The Last Emperor (teacher Volk Han
Andrei Kopylov, Judo, Sambo: Vladimir Voronov, Boxing: Alexander Michkov, Muay Thai: Peter Teijsse, Kickboxing: Ernesto Hoost http://www.fedoremelianenko.tv/eng/ Member of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_and_Sport Champions for Peace )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuffa (USA: Frank Fertitta III Lorenzo Fertitta, Lorenzo Fertitta (Chairman & CEO) Dana Whit, Flash Entertainment, // Defunct: World Fighting Alliance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Fighting_Alliance John Lewis, Promoter/Match Maker, John Huntington, Producer: Louis Palazzo, Investor / Pride Fighting Championships, Japan / World Extreme Cagefighting (WEC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Extreme_Cagefighting Scott Adams and Reed Harris http://www.wec.tv/ / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strikeforce_(mixed_martial_arts) Scott Coker, http://www.strikeforce.com/ )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Fighting_Championship ( USA, Zuffa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_events , Art Davie, Campbell McLaren, John Milius, Rorion Gracie, Bob Meyrowitz, Lorenzo Fertitta, Chairman/CEO, Dana White, President, Marc Ratner, VP Regulatory Affairs, Joe Silva, VP Talent Relations/Matchmaker. http://www.ufc.com/ , MMA, Atheist.
an antitrust lawsuit was filed against Zuffa by several fighters, claiming the organization restricts fighters' control over their careers and earning potential, 2016, the investigation is still ongoing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xtreme_Fighting_Championships ( USA, Florida, Xtreme Fighting Championships (XFC) is a premier International mixed martial arts (MMA), http://www.xfcmma.com/, MMA, )
initiated niBy real sportman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Reality_Combat_Championship (Phillipines, http://urcc-mma.com/ , http://mmamanila.blogspot.com/, http://graciebarraphilippines.com/, http://www.sherdog.com/organizations/Universal-Reality-Combat-Championship-819 The URCC was founded in 2002 by Filipino BJJ Black belt Alvin Aguilar. )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Series_of_Fighting ( USA, Lasvegas, Carlos Silva (CEO), Ray Sefo (President), Michael Mersch, http://wsof.com/, )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respect_Fighting_Championship (Respect Fighting Championship (RESPECT.FC) is a mixed martial arts organization in Germany. It has won the GNP Award for the best German promotion, http://www.respectfc.de/, RESPECT.FC's rules differ somewhat from the North American Unified Rules)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROAD_Fighting_Championship ( Korea, Moon Hong Jung, CEO, Sang Min Park, VP, Bob Sapp, VP of global public relations , http://www.roadfc.com/)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ONE_Championship ( Singapore: Chatri Sityodtong, Chairman, Victor Cui, CEO, Rich Franklin, VP, Matt Hume , http://www.onefc.com/ ONE Championship (previously known as ONE Fighting Championship or ONE FC) is a Singapore-based mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_Fighting_Championship ( Canada: Maximum Fighting Championship is a Canadian mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion, Mark Pavelich (CEO), Dave Pavelich (Vice-President), Manon Pavelich (Treasurer/Tickets), Parent Pavelich Sports Inc., Website http://www.maximumfighting.com )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invicta_Fighting_Championships (USA, Shannon Knapp, Janet Martin, http://www.invictafc.com/ Invicta Fighting Championships, also known as Invicta FC ..OMG, look that logo, honest one.
was founded in 2012 by Janet Martin[2] a former VP with MMA organization Blackeye Promotions[3] and Shannon Knapp, who held positions at various levels, including executive positions with King of the Cage, World Fighting Alliance, International Fight League, Affliction Entertainment, UFC and Strikeforce., It has a strategic partnership with fellow Japanese MMA promotion Jewels )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewels_(mixed_martial_arts) ( Japan: Yuichi Ozono (president), Shigeru Saeki (supervisor), Parent Marverous Japan Co.,Ltd., Website http://www.deepjewels.com/ focused on female fighters. It's the direct successor of Smackgirl . It has a working relationship with fellow mixed martial arts promotion Deep presided by Shigeru Saeki (also the Jewels supervisor)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Cage ( USA, California, Terry Trebilcock, http://www.kingofthecage.com/, King of the Cage, also known as KOTC, is a mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellator_MMA ( Bjorn Rebney President 2008–2014, Scott Coker, Rich Chou, http://www.bellator.com/ Bellator MMA (formerly known as Bellator Fighting Championships) is an American mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vale_Tudo_Japan ( Japan, Vale Tudo Japan (VTJ) is an annual mixed martial arts competition held in Japan. Arranged by promotor Satoru Sayama, http://valetudojapan.com/, http://www.sherdog.com/organizations/Vale-Tudo-Japan-12 )
... ops again.. i guess good things can be more then once.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROAD_Fighting_Championship (Korea, Moon Hong Jung, CEO, Sang Min Park, VPBob Sapp, VP of global public relations, Website http://www.roadfc.com/ . ROAD Fighting Championship (ROAD FC) is a South Korea based mixed martial arts (MMA) . ROAD FC is founded by former national kickboxing champion, Moon Hong Jung.[2] It is the largest MMA organization in South Korea )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAMMA (UK: BAMMA is a mixed martial arts promotion based in the United Kingdom. It is considered by many as one if not the biggest MMA organizations in Europe, David Green, CEO Ashley Bothwell, Managing Director, Jude Samuel, Head Of Talent Relations & Combat Operations, Richard Blackburn, Creative Director, Matt Bourne, Head of Communications, Danny Iacovou, Production Manager, Andy Shepherd, Presenter, David Haye, Presenter, Jess Impiazzi, BAMMA Belle, Georgia Graham, Presenter, Buddae Johnson, Ring Announcer, http://www.bamma.com/ )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konfrontacja_Sztuk_Walki (Poland: Konfrontacja Sztuk Walki, better known by its acronym, KSW, is widely considered to be the premiere mixed martial arts organization in Poland, and one of the leading promotions in Europe. Martin Lewandowski, Maciej Kawulski, KSW Federation, http://www.konfrontacja.com/ )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuania_Bushido_Federation (Lihtuania, Lithuania Bushido Federation ( Lithuania Bushido Federation (Lithuanian: Lietuvos Bušido federacija), also known as Bushido Lithuania, is the largest combat sports promotion in Lithuania. Donatas Simanaitis (president), Col. Česlovas Jezerskas (honorary president), Website http://www.bushido.lt
LBF was founded in 1999 with the name Lietuvos Bušido RINGS federacija as the Lithuanian stable-branch of the Japanese promotion RINGS)
---- just here for the friendly neighbournes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Network_Rings ( Japanese: Fighting Network Rings, trademarked as RINGS, is a Japanese combat sport promotion, Akira Maeda, http://www.rings.co.jp/ Mitsuya Nagai,)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZST
2 July 2016 04:11
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vale_tudo (Vale tudo (Breton pronunciation: [ˈvali ˈtudu]; English: anything goes) is an unarmed, full-contact combat sport with relatively few rules. It became popular in Brazil during the 20th century.[1] It uses techniques from many martial art styles. Some observers consider vale tudo to be a precursor to mixed martial arts.)
Beginning in the early 2000s, newer promotions such as Jungle Fight and Bitetti Combat abandoned traditional Vale Tudo rules in favor of the safer mixed martial arts rules. However, some promotions continued the use of traditional rules, most notably Meca World Vale Tudo and Rio Heroes.
organized by former Vale Tudo fighter Jorge Pereira.
"Supporters of Vale Tudo counter that the sanctioned mixed martial arts style that developed in the United States is now so different from traditional Vale Tudo that it should be treated as an entirely different sport, just as kickboxing is considered different from Muay Thai."
Today, Vale Tudo events are still taking place in great numbers around Brazil. However, due to the violent and bloody nature of the sport these underground. http://www.valetudo.com.br/ivcmenu.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Vale_Tudo_Championship
http://www.bjjheroes.com/bjj-news/brazilian-jiu-jitsu
http://www.dailymotion.com/rioheroes
www.tapoutknockout (facebookSaftey) .com/tag/rio-heroes-valetudo/
http://www.veoh.com/find/?query=rioheroes
http://www.veoh.com/find/?query=vale+tudo
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Meca++Vale+Tudo
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=vale+tudo+rio+heroes+
http://www.cagepotato.com/cagepotato-presents10-mma-fights-you-wish-you-never-saw/
http://www.sherdog.com/organizations/Meca-World-Vale-Tudo-23
https://rutube.ru/search/?query=Meca%20Vale%20Tudo
https://www.youtube.com/user/TeamBlackhouseMMA
defun urls: http://www.F8TE.org and http://rioheroes.com/
This He-man looks interesting to bad he was shoot by he's father, or jet, better by father then by stranger. He took on even the zulu king
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9lOGruJobY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBz8IcXP93A
okry and if ya wanna get really confused look at that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zDq0GIX6MQ
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/UnderGround (http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/UnderGround/1-HE-Man-vs-6-guys-in-a-ring-video-from-brazil:1808646 )
and
Euclides Pareira Decio Pereirara - Newer lost a fight it has been told
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3u66_vVO0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNt3KVN_BzM
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-blonde-devil-unknown-vale-tudo-legend.1278197/
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Beginning in the early 2000s, newer promotions such as Jungle Fight and Bitetti Combat abandoned traditional Vale Tudo rules in favor of the safer mixed martial arts rules. However, some promotions continued the use of traditional rules, most notably Meca World Vale Tudo and Rio Heroes.
organized by former Vale Tudo fighter Jorge Pereira.
"Supporters of Vale Tudo counter that the sanctioned mixed martial arts style that developed in the United States is now so different from traditional Vale Tudo that it should be treated as an entirely different sport, just as kickboxing is considered different from Muay Thai."
Today, Vale Tudo events are still taking place in great numbers around Brazil. However, due to the violent and bloody nature of the sport these underground. http://www.valetudo.com.br/ivcmenu.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Vale_Tudo_Championship
http://www.bjjheroes.com/bjj-news/brazilian-jiu-jitsu
http://www.dailymotion.com/rioheroes
www.tapoutknockout (facebookSaftey) .com/tag/rio-heroes-valetudo/
http://www.veoh.com/find/?query=rioheroes
http://www.veoh.com/find/?query=vale+tudo
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Meca++Vale+Tudo
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=vale+tudo+rio+heroes+
http://www.cagepotato.com/cagepotato-presents10-mma-fights-you-wish-you-never-saw/
http://www.sherdog.com/organizations/Meca-World-Vale-Tudo-23
https://rutube.ru/search/?query=Meca%20Vale%20Tudo
https://www.youtube.com/user/TeamBlackhouseMMA
defun urls: http://www.F8TE.org and http://rioheroes.com/
This He-man looks interesting to bad he was shoot by he's father, or jet, better by father then by stranger. He took on even the zulu king
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9lOGruJobY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBz8IcXP93A
okry and if ya wanna get really confused look at that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zDq0GIX6MQ
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/UnderGround (http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/UnderGround/1-HE-Man-vs-6-guys-in-a-ring-video-from-brazil:1808646 )
and
Euclides Pareira Decio Pereirara - Newer lost a fight it has been told
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3u66_vVO0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNt3KVN_BzM
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-blonde-devil-unknown-vale-tudo-legend.1278197/
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vale_tudo
2 July 2016 04:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Websites, Some memory’s for Mixed martial Arts and a like.
Here is just a small sample of Organizations and Clubs who host mixed martial arts fighting, that is: something that is more interesting then just limiting human to a fist punch, ... but nearly all of them have been .. kohitsetud, some dude stands between the fighter and they cant even take proper long hits without hitting the middle guy who just keeps bothering fight and breaking it up before the proper end, ... calculating a winner based on points instead based on who won.
Few styles and Networks for starters (by far not complete list, but the mainstream competition form, excluding the Systema etc)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_martial_arts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_mixed_martial_arts_champions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mixed_Martial_Artists_with_the_most_sanctioned_fights
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_world_boxing_champions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_undefeated_boxing_world_champions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shootfighting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Network_Rings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_Fighting_Championships
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_martial_arts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kickboxing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_jiu-jitsu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muay_thai
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoot-fighting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_martial_arts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_arts#Full-contact
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliveness_(martial_arts)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vale_tudo - this is only proper one (Rio and Meca version)
for my own note-keeping,
Here is just a small sample of Organizations and Clubs who host mixed martial arts fighting, that is: something that is more interesting then just limiting human to a fist punch, ... but nearly all of them have been .. kohitsetud, some dude stands between the fighter and they cant even take proper long hits without hitting the middle guy who just keeps bothering fight and breaking it up before the proper end, ... calculating a winner based on points instead based on who won.
Few styles and Networks for starters (by far not complete list, but the mainstream competition form, excluding the Systema etc)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_martial_arts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_mixed_martial_arts_champions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mixed_Martial_Artists_with_the_most_sanctioned_fights
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_world_boxing_champions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_undefeated_boxing_world_champions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shootfighting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Network_Rings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_Fighting_Championships
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_martial_arts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kickboxing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_jiu-jitsu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muay_thai
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoot-fighting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_martial_arts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_arts#Full-contact
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliveness_(martial_arts)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vale_tudo - this is only proper one (Rio and Meca version)
for my own note-keeping,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_martial_arts
2 July 2016 04:05
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
thatsin normaalset sporti näha hetke aga kõik on mingi regulatsioonidega pervetiseeritud, lopuks leidsin ValeTuDo, see täitsa hakkas lubama, kuid siis see reguleriti ka ära, .. moned maalaused veel on alles onneks..
2 July 2016 03:54
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Mis mõttes :D
2 July 2016 03:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"sign the contract big boy sign the contract"
// Why the rule makers have to ruin all the potential fights... not making anything real so man who run their mouth newer can get their mouth full..
/scripted shit/ (Bob Sapp vs Mike Tyson - brawl and scrap outside the ring (k-1, mma, muay thai fighting, 2012 year))
#tyson #fight #mma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAyfAU__Znk
// Why the rule makers have to ruin all the potential fights... not making anything real so man who run their mouth newer can get their mouth full..
/scripted shit/ (Bob Sapp vs Mike Tyson - brawl and scrap outside the ring (k-1, mma, muay thai fighting, 2012 year))
#tyson #fight #mma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAyfAU__Znk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAyfAU__Znk
1 July 2016 22:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Why the rule makers have to ruin all the potential fights... even on ones old home continent one can not match up proper..
#tyson #lutteSénégalaise #lutte
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWF8r86eRd4
#tyson #lutteSénégalaise #lutte
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWF8r86eRd4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWF8r86eRd4
1 July 2016 22:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Or something like that, also looks more nice, as no artificial barriers, there is head protection but lets forgive that for now (not sure, if there really is when things go real)
Just wonder, is there real sword fights also still made.. i mean WAR and all that is legal.. why to keep it fake.. lets keep it noble and start to shap each other off, between the ones who want.. then there can be various kings again.. swords man.. boxing kings.. or whatever comes to a mind , boot throwing if needed... but as long real urges are restricted by artificial law and allowed real war sometime... then we will not heal ... as long we not turn it in to a money making sport.. or as long all Bettings have to send 30 to 70 % of income to these in need.. then it might be worth.. as there is also these ones who start to invent indrustry where is not needed... idea is to focus violence and concentrate it.. cops vs gangs, special opp vs terrorisers or wiches vs. shamans something like that.
#StickFighting #africaFighting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4RPk02oxp0
Just wonder, is there real sword fights also still made.. i mean WAR and all that is legal.. why to keep it fake.. lets keep it noble and start to shap each other off, between the ones who want.. then there can be various kings again.. swords man.. boxing kings.. or whatever comes to a mind , boot throwing if needed... but as long real urges are restricted by artificial law and allowed real war sometime... then we will not heal ... as long we not turn it in to a money making sport.. or as long all Bettings have to send 30 to 70 % of income to these in need.. then it might be worth.. as there is also these ones who start to invent indrustry where is not needed... idea is to focus violence and concentrate it.. cops vs gangs, special opp vs terrorisers or wiches vs. shamans something like that.
#StickFighting #africaFighting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4RPk02oxp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4RPk02oxp0
1 July 2016 22:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This is how Russian brothers warm them self up on free time as family quality time:
Fedor and Aleksander Emelianenko Sparring (Trants: make the motions of boxing without landing heavy blows, as a form of training.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA6folCFG1k
Fedor and Aleksander Emelianenko Sparring (Trants: make the motions of boxing without landing heavy blows, as a form of training.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA6folCFG1k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA6folCFG1k
1 July 2016 21:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Comment: "If the motto is put the guns down and out the Gloves up then I support this"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiGntGgxCZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiGntGgxCZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiGntGgxCZY
1 July 2016 21:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So that's many ways great start from another level, but this is all am going to say about that for now.
For my own notes reference.
For my own notes reference.
1 July 2016 21:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
#girlsFight #streetFight
and when the girls all get involved... ... most likelly this would still needs some fighting to live out, but it should be regulated just by levels, and allowed up to death if we want to become proper society.
Like gangs or people have issue, they will sing in to agreemet and choose the level of beating out and rules they agree to join in, and how many vs how many, and well.. this will take some byte out from this WWA mania at least and from other sports. as this is what sports are ultimately anyway, but at least some real issues get sorted out then,
and for the others are academic competitions and all that syceling or something.. but not as a mass organization, every year just going and going as mainstream.. this is boring for most, and wastes human time, as no issues get sorted out
https://www.youtube (remove space) .com/watch?v=voMBcnlF88E
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and when the girls all get involved... ... most likelly this would still needs some fighting to live out, but it should be regulated just by levels, and allowed up to death if we want to become proper society.
Like gangs or people have issue, they will sing in to agreemet and choose the level of beating out and rules they agree to join in, and how many vs how many, and well.. this will take some byte out from this WWA mania at least and from other sports. as this is what sports are ultimately anyway, but at least some real issues get sorted out then,
and for the others are academic competitions and all that syceling or something.. but not as a mass organization, every year just going and going as mainstream.. this is boring for most, and wastes human time, as no issues get sorted out
https://www.youtube (remove space) .com/watch?v=voMBcnlF88E
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1 July 2016 21:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
#realFight #streetFight
This one on the really end, ended up fast... man.. what was that (did the girl not say "Frankey.. Stop.." should have listen a Women.. they know)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUXgLU5wcmk
This one on the really end, ended up fast... man.. what was that (did the girl not say "Frankey.. Stop.." should have listen a Women.. they know)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUXgLU5wcmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUXgLU5wcmk
1 July 2016 21:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
IN here also, people call niggas but am not sure what side is calling who
#RacialFights #streetFight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiySJOncVfw
#RacialFights #streetFight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiySJOncVfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiySJOncVfw
1 July 2016 21:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
#RacialFight #racialFights
Specially on the end, good camera-work i must say for a street fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p20atC2MG8w
Specially on the end, good camera-work i must say for a street fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p20atC2MG8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p20atC2MG8w
1 July 2016 21:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But the "Bexican Vs. Black" thing has got some other fashion picking up as well, did not think the strike between these are so promising
#streetFight #rassistFight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fHEMYmUgEM
#streetFight #rassistFight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fHEMYmUgEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fHEMYmUgEM
1 July 2016 21:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
There is also some promising trends growing out in here:
Mexican vs Nazi ( Felony Fights 5 ) #FelonyFights #Nazi #Mexican
... i like the more natural take on things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf_57J_pkXk
Mexican vs Nazi ( Felony Fights 5 ) #FelonyFights #Nazi #Mexican
... i like the more natural take on things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf_57J_pkXk
1 July 2016 21:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And then getting more in to reality (are these called Sweden fighters? Or the ones WhitePride people dream to fight against? )
#TFC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR3S6xUA7kM
#TFC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR3S6xUA7kM
1 July 2016 21:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Eastern Europe", Poland, Russia.. is working on something that is almost promising.. but managed also to get tied in to regulations.. The idea it self is great, specially on #Odin times.. so sides can live out each other.
First practising between our self:
TFC(MMA) POLAND team VS RUSSIAN team
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e48YvSHoUMs
First practising between our self:
TFC(MMA) POLAND team VS RUSSIAN team
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e48YvSHoUMs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e48YvSHoUMs
1 July 2016 21:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Or perhaps #rugby
More like it then the ... mass near dooring football. Sorry for the ones who are in the infection, i mean no insult for home teams and for fans, but .. seriously, GET REAL ! if it is about life energy exchange, Greek-Roman brutal sport remembrance, then do the moneys worth!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRcwQeoxfTU
More like it then the ... mass near dooring football. Sorry for the ones who are in the infection, i mean no insult for home teams and for fans, but .. seriously, GET REAL ! if it is about life energy exchange, Greek-Roman brutal sport remembrance, then do the moneys worth!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRcwQeoxfTU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRcwQeoxfTU
1 July 2016 19:25
Margus Meigo commented on Ilhami Aydemir's photo.
How ya keep Yourself looking so fine when being a boxer
1 July 2016 17:50
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
Jumalaga!
29 June 2016 15:36
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
Jeerum, nüüd Sul läks päris sassi, jumal nüüd küll Jeesus pole , oh teid.. algajaid
29 June 2016 15:36
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
Kui Jumalat kogu südamega armastada, küll siis oskad juba sedasi, nagu Jumalale meeldib ka ligimest, loodust ja iseennast armastada kuidas tarvis
29 June 2016 15:35
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
Ikka armasta Jumalat kogu oma südamega,
Kui soovid ühte lausesse panna, sellest lähtub juba ligimese ja kõige muu armastus... sest Jumalas on kogu õpetus mitte ligimeses
Kui soovid ühte lausesse panna, sellest lähtub juba ligimese ja kõige muu armastus... sest Jumalas on kogu õpetus mitte ligimeses
29 June 2016 15:34
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
Piibel ei ole Seadus,
seadus on Torah,
Ja selle alguse viis esimest olulist on ka piibli raamatute hulka lisatud (mida on 66 ... nagu 666... et inimene aru saaks, millega tegu ja mida Roomlased tegid...)
seadus on Torah,
Ja selle alguse viis esimest olulist on ka piibli raamatute hulka lisatud (mida on 66 ... nagu 666... et inimene aru saaks, millega tegu ja mida Roomlased tegid...)
29 June 2016 15:34
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
Vevalt,et JUMALA ENDA isiklik sõna mida ta ISIKLIKULT inimestele maapeale tõi, et selle lugemine ringiga kuidagi oleks...sellele peaks ikka mitu kraadi rohkem rõhku panema, kui kõik muu, mis ka vaimust inspireeritud... kuid põhi südmik, mis ta arvas olema piisav.. sellele ikka peab rõhku panema
29 June 2016 15:32
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
võta nüüd paar sammu tagasi ja mõtle SELLELE osale, TOORALE, mis JUMAL isiklikult juutidele andis.. ja loe nende rahaloodja kirjapandud seadused läbi, kui me Jumalale ligemale soovid tulla.
et tunda, milline on jumal ja kuidas tema sarnaseks saada, tehes seda mida Jumalal vaja
et tunda, milline on jumal ja kuidas tema sarnaseks saada, tehes seda mida Jumalal vaja
29 June 2016 15:31
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
Saad aru, et SEADUS, selle all mõeldakse SEADUST, mitte uut testamenti, mis arvad, etselle sõna all ka uut testamenti, ja mormoonide raamatut ja bavagaKiitat ka mõeldi v?
29 June 2016 15:30
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
ega see mingi sport pole, et vurinal läbi loed ja mida kiiremini ja rohkem seda uhkem
29 June 2016 15:29
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
ehk mis iganes lauset loed, vaatad MIS ristviitele see viitab ja siis loed ja arvestad paraleelselt ka neid viiteid (ja eriti võimsa isiksuse puhul, veel omakorda nende viiteid)
29 June 2016 15:27
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
See on kiiduvääärt, et nii palju läbi lugesid, kuid nüüdproovi lugeda ka ristviidetega läbi
29 June 2016 15:27
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
Uues testamendis kinni on need LÕVIOSAS kes oma vanematega on pahuksis suhetes ja ei saa ema, vanaema, isa ja vanaisaga sügavutti läbi, läbi allumise nende ja oma Ema sõnale.
See on reformaatorite ja igasuguste revulutsiooniliste ja poliitikute lisa, jah, mis on tore et ta on, kuid meeles tuleb pidada PÄRIS seadust ja PÄRIS käske
See on reformaatorite ja igasuguste revulutsiooniliste ja poliitikute lisa, jah, mis on tore et ta on, kuid meeles tuleb pidada PÄRIS seadust ja PÄRIS käske
29 June 2016 15:26
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
misasjastpeale uustestament, seaduse alla kuulub, samahästi pane siis mormoonide raamat jms ka sinna, mis on ka huvitav ja hea ajalooline lugemine, kuid pole seadusega pistmist vaid lihtsalt ühte teist head, kerget lugemist
29 June 2016 15:23
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
jah, ja SEADUS on TORAH... mitte ei oel seadus, uus testament kulla mees, tule mõistusele nüüd
29 June 2016 15:23
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
Piibli otsa kirjutatud Rooma võimu all olevad kirjad, nende väheväärtuslikuse selgitamise osas päris piibliga võrreldes,ei ole küll midagi pistmist Jumala kahtluse osas muud kui,et jumal kahtleb nendes, kes pole Vana testamendi lõppugi endale viitsinud arusaadavaks teha, et aru saada mis ja kuidas olema saab ja on
29 June 2016 15:22
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
sest lapsed ja vanemad veel päris ühe südame suunas pole või mis ?
Ega siis meie Jumal kosmiline jumal pole, vaid maine ja praktiline, selles mõttes, et mis ta soovib meil teha on see mida tal vaja.. ja mida tal vaja on meil vaja
nagu lapsed ja vanemad kokku..
Ega siis meie Jumal kosmiline jumal pole, vaid maine ja praktiline, selles mõttes, et mis ta soovib meil teha on see mida tal vaja.. ja mida tal vaja on meil vaja
nagu lapsed ja vanemad kokku..
29 June 2016 15:21
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
ära ole rumal nüüd, kes siis uue testamendi pärast hüüab,
see ju õige Jumalasõna otsa klopsitud ja selle lõpus juba kõik ära öeldud mis öelda vaja
ja muidugi see mida seal öeldud on, on see, et sellega pole veel keegi hakkama saanud, seega on vaja veel tegeleda..
see ju õige Jumalasõna otsa klopsitud ja selle lõpus juba kõik ära öeldud mis öelda vaja
ja muidugi see mida seal öeldud on, on see, et sellega pole veel keegi hakkama saanud, seega on vaja veel tegeleda..
29 June 2016 15:20
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
See muidugi uus testament ka, nii, et sellega tasub suts vaiksemalt võtta
29 June 2016 14:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
so did we get the point that racism is good by now?
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I want Self-Determination for black people... said an African I want Self-Determination for brown people... said a Indian I want Self-Determination for white people... said the racist Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
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I want Self-Determination for black people... said an African I want Self-Determination for brown people... said a Indian I want Self-Determination for white people... said the racist Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
29 June 2016 14:36
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
väike muidugi mitte meie binokli ja mõõduriista pidi vaadates..
muidugi pahasti on see, et tunnen ennast mitte rahuldavalt olukorra pärast, et oleks võinud ikka leebem, targem, selgem ja abivalmim olla...
kuidlihtsalt igakord kui liberaalide propakandat näen, inimsuse ja looduse vastalisust... jumala vastalisust.. siis ei saa muud moodi kui kohe tunne tuleb, et vaja neil endil lasta oma enda sõnu maitsta ja vaat kui saaks ... aga peab oskama vaikselt, rahulikult.. ilma erutumata, kuid raske, kui sõnavabadus igast jõledusi lubab inimesel rääkida samavõrdväärselt.. siis muud paremat momendil inimese tarvis ei mõista teha kui head vaimset malakat anda, et ehk siis teine teises kohas on targem ja läbi selle, "pääsemisel" ligemal (miskeid muid pääsemisi siin eriti muidugi ei ole .. kui,et arusaamine keda ja miks teenid.. ja miks ka maiselt, see on see osa inimesel, maine teenimine, mis inimeselteha meeldib, olgu see ajakirjandus, tants või toit... erinevaid väljendusi,millega ise suhtleme ja oleme, nii, et kuidas sina ise sooviks, et oldaks, kui positsioon oleks vahetatud, kuid üldne olukord aegajalt sama)
muidugi pahasti on see, et tunnen ennast mitte rahuldavalt olukorra pärast, et oleks võinud ikka leebem, targem, selgem ja abivalmim olla...
kuidlihtsalt igakord kui liberaalide propakandat näen, inimsuse ja looduse vastalisust... jumala vastalisust.. siis ei saa muud moodi kui kohe tunne tuleb, et vaja neil endil lasta oma enda sõnu maitsta ja vaat kui saaks ... aga peab oskama vaikselt, rahulikult.. ilma erutumata, kuid raske, kui sõnavabadus igast jõledusi lubab inimesel rääkida samavõrdväärselt.. siis muud paremat momendil inimese tarvis ei mõista teha kui head vaimset malakat anda, et ehk siis teine teises kohas on targem ja läbi selle, "pääsemisel" ligemal (miskeid muid pääsemisi siin eriti muidugi ei ole .. kui,et arusaamine keda ja miks teenid.. ja miks ka maiselt, see on see osa inimesel, maine teenimine, mis inimeselteha meeldib, olgu see ajakirjandus, tants või toit... erinevaid väljendusi,millega ise suhtleme ja oleme, nii, et kuidas sina ise sooviks, et oldaks, kui positsioon oleks vahetatud, kuid üldne olukord aegajalt sama)
29 June 2016 14:29
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kui ta teab mida milleks kasutab ja millest loobumise suunas teeb tööd kui selleks keha või vaim järel on,
Kuid selle hawkinsi asjast saidaru eks,et see jutt on ikka puhta hale nali mida nad selles videoklipis ajasid. Et ära nii lihtsaid asju nagu küll sedasi päris usklikule saada, vaatavad muidu et puhta lapse ohtu teine ja üldse kujutlusvõimetki pole.
Kõige muu osas, nagu mõista miks millised taimed ei ole või on meelemürgid ja kuidas keha ja vaimu puhastavad ained mis ei mürgita, on kasulikud vaimule.. et nendes asjades küsida ja uurida, usutleda, on veel arusaadav, sest need teemad ja asjad, mis rohkem Druidide ja Siberi Tarkade jms teemad, pühakute ja muude tulnukate kes neid asju jagavad... kuid muretseda, et kuidas jumal kes väljaspool aega ilma ajata midagi väikest nagu universumi tegi.. see ikka lapsemäng
Kuid selle hawkinsi asjast saidaru eks,et see jutt on ikka puhta hale nali mida nad selles videoklipis ajasid. Et ära nii lihtsaid asju nagu küll sedasi päris usklikule saada, vaatavad muidu et puhta lapse ohtu teine ja üldse kujutlusvõimetki pole.
Kõige muu osas, nagu mõista miks millised taimed ei ole või on meelemürgid ja kuidas keha ja vaimu puhastavad ained mis ei mürgita, on kasulikud vaimule.. et nendes asjades küsida ja uurida, usutleda, on veel arusaadav, sest need teemad ja asjad, mis rohkem Druidide ja Siberi Tarkade jms teemad, pühakute ja muude tulnukate kes neid asju jagavad... kuid muretseda, et kuidas jumal kes väljaspool aega ilma ajata midagi väikest nagu universumi tegi.. see ikka lapsemäng
29 June 2016 14:28
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Esiteks, lõpetuseks oleksid võinud ju ikka pihta panna mitte siis nii mööda...
Greeka-Rooma pederastidest ma rääkinud aadamast iidamast,et ON kõik Liberaalide klännid JA EBAUSULISED kes ei mõista kaitsta Matriarhaatlike ja Piibelike (õigemini Tooralike, või veel õigemini maausklike ja shamaanilikke lausa) põhitõdesi. Liberaalide alla lähevad ka suurem osa neid kes Parem vs. Vaskak lipsu trallis kaasa löövad.
Enamus kes akadeemia tarkusi lutsivad, sest need Greeka-Rooma pederastide tarkused mis loodud inimeste pimestamiseks ja arengu aeglustamiseks, hoidmaks inimest Jumalast ja Taimetarkustest eemal.
Mis selles silmakirjalikku on kui ma loomseid saadusi nagu võid-koort harva kasutan? (ega eriti palju muid saadusi neilt ei tulegi meelde mille järgi..) ...ega siis see pole silmakirjalikus, kui inimene TEAB mida ta kasutab ja mis selle hind on.
Milliseid eba"jumalaid" ma saan kummardada? Mis asjad need ebajumalad on. Ja kus nad on. Jumal on ainult üks ju.
Milliseid meele MÜRKE ma siis kasutan? Mis otsast peale need asjad MÜRGID on? Umm.. kui ma suitsu või alkoholi kasutaks, siis võiks öelda, et mürk, iÄGA kristlikutest ja süvausklikutest Jumala tööriistadest, müstikute tööriistadest, need kes kogu usuelu elus ja hingamas ja uuena hoiavad.
Ma võin kiva lausa kalluriga kallata : )
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Ja kui eriti kõvasti targad inimesed naerda soovivad, siis võib keegi Carl Seageni videod välja tuua.. õnnetu inimene... teeb kanepit isegi ja ikka pole pointile pihta saanud.. et kui iganes suure idee nad loovad, saab see ainult Jumala arusaama suuremaks luua, astmes...
Greeka-Rooma pederastidest ma rääkinud aadamast iidamast,et ON kõik Liberaalide klännid JA EBAUSULISED kes ei mõista kaitsta Matriarhaatlike ja Piibelike (õigemini Tooralike, või veel õigemini maausklike ja shamaanilikke lausa) põhitõdesi. Liberaalide alla lähevad ka suurem osa neid kes Parem vs. Vaskak lipsu trallis kaasa löövad.
Enamus kes akadeemia tarkusi lutsivad, sest need Greeka-Rooma pederastide tarkused mis loodud inimeste pimestamiseks ja arengu aeglustamiseks, hoidmaks inimest Jumalast ja Taimetarkustest eemal.
Mis selles silmakirjalikku on kui ma loomseid saadusi nagu võid-koort harva kasutan? (ega eriti palju muid saadusi neilt ei tulegi meelde mille järgi..) ...ega siis see pole silmakirjalikus, kui inimene TEAB mida ta kasutab ja mis selle hind on.
Milliseid eba"jumalaid" ma saan kummardada? Mis asjad need ebajumalad on. Ja kus nad on. Jumal on ainult üks ju.
Milliseid meele MÜRKE ma siis kasutan? Mis otsast peale need asjad MÜRGID on? Umm.. kui ma suitsu või alkoholi kasutaks, siis võiks öelda, et mürk, iÄGA kristlikutest ja süvausklikutest Jumala tööriistadest, müstikute tööriistadest, need kes kogu usuelu elus ja hingamas ja uuena hoiavad.
Ma võin kiva lausa kalluriga kallata : )
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Ja kui eriti kõvasti targad inimesed naerda soovivad, siis võib keegi Carl Seageni videod välja tuua.. õnnetu inimene... teeb kanepit isegi ja ikka pole pointile pihta saanud.. et kui iganes suure idee nad loovad, saab see ainult Jumala arusaama suuremaks luua, astmes...
29 June 2016 14:23
Margus Meigo replied to Sakunne Svensson's comment.
Oho, päris hea, peab hea rahulik süda olema, et to nii ligi
29 June 2016 14:13
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
see nii hästi väljsa tuli, et pean endale ka salvestama, ilusamaks lihvima, siis ei pea teist korda energiat kulutama kui keegi mingi Aja teemaga lagedale tuleb jälle
29 June 2016 13:07
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Et siis see Hawkinksi video... WAU :D Irw,
et siis .. Muidugi kuulata miskit tüüpi, kelle eest räägib arvuti (mitte see mida ta ise sooviks öelda) ja kelle meeskond alles endiselt, on nii lapselikes tasemetes, et tegelevad selliste argumentidega, nagu
(võttes nende laste arusaama "Big Bangist" kui olulise algstaadiumi selle liigi loomiseks kes seda mõtet onaneerib, kui reaalsust, et aidata sellel algelisel mõttel natukenegi "essentsi" või sisu saada ja toota.. )
ehk siis, tegelevad veel arulagedate loogikat püüdvate argumentidega nagu :
"OOO, ENNE bigBangy ei olnud Aega, Seega polnud Jumalal AEGA mille SEES universumit Luua"
ahahahhahaha
nu tere kolmas klass nagu
kui nad tüübile arvuti toonil sõnu suhu panevad, siis võiks midagi targemat luuletada kui sellist jupilist nälkja ila.
LOOMULIKULT ei teinud AJA SEES
Jumal Universumit,
Jesus Christ!
AEG, on LISA tööriist, nagu vesi, wifi ja õhk ning rõhk ja matemaatika, ja betoonsein, mida SELLE UNIVERSUMI SEES kasutatakse SELLE ELUVORMI juhtimise ja reguleerimise jaoks .
ENAMUS elu tegelasi, on VÄLJASPOOL AEGA, ... aeg on algelistele üherakulistele nagu meie siin, kes pole isegi veel jumala asumit endale suvatsenud südamesse võtta
ON MITMEID ERI AEGASI, ERI TIHEDUSE ja ERI KIIRUSE ja ERI STRUKTUURIGA... ... meil siin on alustuseks, tajumisvõime antud ühtlasele, oma teadvuste vahel stabiliseerimisena lainena samana möödetav matemaatiline ja varsti ka ruumiline tajutav aeg (mille sees ka, kes vähegi õppinud psühedeeliat kasutama, on õppinud liikuma, vahele jätma, pikendama... ja muud moodi kasutama)
kuid Jumal (lets keep it simple), kes SELLE maailma, ja selle maailma ÜSA, ehk Universumi tegemisega tegelevad, nemad on VÄLJASPOOL aega.
... nagu inimesed on väljaspool kala akvaariumit ja akvaariumi seinad on materialist ja tehnoloogiast mis ennast siduvalt vaatleja teadvusega kaugustesse laiendavad ja teiste paraleel akvaariumitega ühendab. Kuid kuna nende mateeria nii väike ja sõltub nende limiteeritud usuga ajast füüsiliselt, siis enamuse jaoks piisab, et neid paigal hoida, mõned haiged teadlased, psüchonaudid ja maagiaga tegelvad ainult käivad pinda ja torgivad auke sisse uurimise mõttes nagu täis idioot zombid, et "teada saada, mis teiselpool on". seades ohtu kogu oma liigi elu (kuid akvaariumi kasvatajate jaoks, see üks raisku läinud partii, kahjuks, ainult ...vahest viirus levib ja siis keeratakse suuremaid jamasi.. kuid see selleks,)
Akvaariumi kasvanduse teener, saab ka väga litsalt uusi taimi, teokarpe ja kilpkonnasi sinna vette panna, ILMA; et ta neid ise vee sees olles tekitama peaks
täis lasteaed ikka jeerum küll.
On loogika, et "kui polnud Aega, enne universumi Loomist (universumi sees oleva jubina limiteeritud mõõte tulemusel suhttõene ühe dimensiooniline vaatlus) siis nagu ei saanud Jumal universumi teha, sest ei olnud aega mille sees ta seda teha oleks saanud... "
tra on ikka lamba lammas kes seal videos huinjuutas, ... maja ka keegi MAJA SEEST ei ehita ega telki ei pane püsti enamasti ise telgikotis algselt olles, ja siis sealt seest väljaspoole seda tegema hakates... mõnel mehel Jumalast väga piiratud ideed, umbes ,et ta teeb nagu endast suurema universumi ja seestpoolt hakkas seda tegema v, koos sama aja reeglitega mis meie (see nii utoopiliselt limiteeritud naeruväärne idee, et kuidas inimesed üldse ülikooli saavad ja sellist saasta oma kõrvadevahel hoiavad on täiesti müstiline... mõõdavad oma akvaariumis aega ja molekule ja eeldavad, et kogu ülejäänud Looming on samade parameetritega kui see inkupaator mille sees nad heietavad... Tule Taevas Appi (või noh, eks ta on pidevalt..)
peaks personaalselt kirjutama talle, et mingu närigu kärbseseent peale mõningaid psühedeelseid õppuseid ja elementaarseid kristluse algtõdede tajumist, istugu suts kännu otsas, ja siis ehk hakkab koitma mis AJAD on ja kus aegasi pole ja kuidas ja mis moodi asjad toimivad kohtades kus on muud ajad või mis limitatsioonid on neil kes astuvad ajast sisse ja välja nagu 18 sajandi filmi skripti filmimise aegas võib keegi hoopis mobiiliga vastassuunas muus kiiruses ja ajas kaamera eest läbi astuda.. sest ta pole SELLES ajas kinni, selle aja reeglites mida usus, et peab järgima nagu kehakeemia ja selle keemiaga toodetud võime tajuda seletab selle "tarkvara" piires mis kõrvadevahel on, kui aga fundament on puudu, siis muidugi enamus jookseb mööda maad ja ei haaku, enamus tarkused näivad millegi muuna, sest ei oska neid sobitada.. nagu kui lapsele anda hunnik kalleid ferraari juppe, et graazis auto korda teha, et naisi lantida 10 aastat hiljem, siis laps need raud kolakad minema viskab ja paneb pulgakommi tagasi suhu, hea, mugav, magus ja värviline... sest need jupid mis suure väärtusega tema teadvuses ja arusaamas ei haaku millegi väärtuslikuga. Palju enam nutaks ta kui komm talt ära võtta.
et siis .. Muidugi kuulata miskit tüüpi, kelle eest räägib arvuti (mitte see mida ta ise sooviks öelda) ja kelle meeskond alles endiselt, on nii lapselikes tasemetes, et tegelevad selliste argumentidega, nagu
(võttes nende laste arusaama "Big Bangist" kui olulise algstaadiumi selle liigi loomiseks kes seda mõtet onaneerib, kui reaalsust, et aidata sellel algelisel mõttel natukenegi "essentsi" või sisu saada ja toota.. )
ehk siis, tegelevad veel arulagedate loogikat püüdvate argumentidega nagu :
"OOO, ENNE bigBangy ei olnud Aega, Seega polnud Jumalal AEGA mille SEES universumit Luua"
ahahahhahaha
nu tere kolmas klass nagu
kui nad tüübile arvuti toonil sõnu suhu panevad, siis võiks midagi targemat luuletada kui sellist jupilist nälkja ila.
LOOMULIKULT ei teinud AJA SEES
Jumal Universumit,
Jesus Christ!
AEG, on LISA tööriist, nagu vesi, wifi ja õhk ning rõhk ja matemaatika, ja betoonsein, mida SELLE UNIVERSUMI SEES kasutatakse SELLE ELUVORMI juhtimise ja reguleerimise jaoks .
ENAMUS elu tegelasi, on VÄLJASPOOL AEGA, ... aeg on algelistele üherakulistele nagu meie siin, kes pole isegi veel jumala asumit endale suvatsenud südamesse võtta
ON MITMEID ERI AEGASI, ERI TIHEDUSE ja ERI KIIRUSE ja ERI STRUKTUURIGA... ... meil siin on alustuseks, tajumisvõime antud ühtlasele, oma teadvuste vahel stabiliseerimisena lainena samana möödetav matemaatiline ja varsti ka ruumiline tajutav aeg (mille sees ka, kes vähegi õppinud psühedeeliat kasutama, on õppinud liikuma, vahele jätma, pikendama... ja muud moodi kasutama)
kuid Jumal (lets keep it simple), kes SELLE maailma, ja selle maailma ÜSA, ehk Universumi tegemisega tegelevad, nemad on VÄLJASPOOL aega.
... nagu inimesed on väljaspool kala akvaariumit ja akvaariumi seinad on materialist ja tehnoloogiast mis ennast siduvalt vaatleja teadvusega kaugustesse laiendavad ja teiste paraleel akvaariumitega ühendab. Kuid kuna nende mateeria nii väike ja sõltub nende limiteeritud usuga ajast füüsiliselt, siis enamuse jaoks piisab, et neid paigal hoida, mõned haiged teadlased, psüchonaudid ja maagiaga tegelvad ainult käivad pinda ja torgivad auke sisse uurimise mõttes nagu täis idioot zombid, et "teada saada, mis teiselpool on". seades ohtu kogu oma liigi elu (kuid akvaariumi kasvatajate jaoks, see üks raisku läinud partii, kahjuks, ainult ...vahest viirus levib ja siis keeratakse suuremaid jamasi.. kuid see selleks,)
Akvaariumi kasvanduse teener, saab ka väga litsalt uusi taimi, teokarpe ja kilpkonnasi sinna vette panna, ILMA; et ta neid ise vee sees olles tekitama peaks
täis lasteaed ikka jeerum küll.
On loogika, et "kui polnud Aega, enne universumi Loomist (universumi sees oleva jubina limiteeritud mõõte tulemusel suhttõene ühe dimensiooniline vaatlus) siis nagu ei saanud Jumal universumi teha, sest ei olnud aega mille sees ta seda teha oleks saanud... "
tra on ikka lamba lammas kes seal videos huinjuutas, ... maja ka keegi MAJA SEEST ei ehita ega telki ei pane püsti enamasti ise telgikotis algselt olles, ja siis sealt seest väljaspoole seda tegema hakates... mõnel mehel Jumalast väga piiratud ideed, umbes ,et ta teeb nagu endast suurema universumi ja seestpoolt hakkas seda tegema v, koos sama aja reeglitega mis meie (see nii utoopiliselt limiteeritud naeruväärne idee, et kuidas inimesed üldse ülikooli saavad ja sellist saasta oma kõrvadevahel hoiavad on täiesti müstiline... mõõdavad oma akvaariumis aega ja molekule ja eeldavad, et kogu ülejäänud Looming on samade parameetritega kui see inkupaator mille sees nad heietavad... Tule Taevas Appi (või noh, eks ta on pidevalt..)
peaks personaalselt kirjutama talle, et mingu närigu kärbseseent peale mõningaid psühedeelseid õppuseid ja elementaarseid kristluse algtõdede tajumist, istugu suts kännu otsas, ja siis ehk hakkab koitma mis AJAD on ja kus aegasi pole ja kuidas ja mis moodi asjad toimivad kohtades kus on muud ajad või mis limitatsioonid on neil kes astuvad ajast sisse ja välja nagu 18 sajandi filmi skripti filmimise aegas võib keegi hoopis mobiiliga vastassuunas muus kiiruses ja ajas kaamera eest läbi astuda.. sest ta pole SELLES ajas kinni, selle aja reeglites mida usus, et peab järgima nagu kehakeemia ja selle keemiaga toodetud võime tajuda seletab selle "tarkvara" piires mis kõrvadevahel on, kui aga fundament on puudu, siis muidugi enamus jookseb mööda maad ja ei haaku, enamus tarkused näivad millegi muuna, sest ei oska neid sobitada.. nagu kui lapsele anda hunnik kalleid ferraari juppe, et graazis auto korda teha, et naisi lantida 10 aastat hiljem, siis laps need raud kolakad minema viskab ja paneb pulgakommi tagasi suhu, hea, mugav, magus ja värviline... sest need jupid mis suure väärtusega tema teadvuses ja arusaamas ei haaku millegi väärtuslikuga. Palju enam nutaks ta kui komm talt ära võtta.
29 June 2016 13:00
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Muide Juutide aluspinnaks on TEADMINE, et nii ON... asi on "uskumisest" kaugel.
Kuid kuna kaitsen ka uskumist, siis Esiteks, kui inimene Usub, siis saab ta ARU, et tal ei ole vaja karta rohkem kui seda mida vaja, saad aru kuidas elu tuleb ja läheb, mida siin olla hirmul? Hirm ja kartmine muidugi eri asjad.
Mis "hea pääste" asja sa ajad? Kes siis selle pärast Jumalat usuks, et ta ise päästetud saaks.. mis idee see selline on.. ikka point on, et TEISED saaksid päästetud, see juba Jumala ja ta abiliste ja nende kelle päästnud oled otsustada, kas Sa ise vaja ja vääriline enam oled kui oma töö oled lõpuni viimase hingetõmbeni teinud.
Oleks äärmiselt idiootne ju siin unistada, kuskil kosmose paradiisist, kui SIIN on vaja asjad korda teha ja kõik muud kohad kuhu meel ja süda ulatub, olenevalt selles suuruses ja kauguses kui kellegile kohustuseks või tunnetuseks antud.
Muidugi ristiusu arusaam on Liberaalide kommarite poolt sul jälle kõrvade vahel 100% TÄEISTI vastupidi nii naeruväärselt, et kahju hakkab. RISTIUSK ON ESIMENE USK MAAILMA INIMESTE AJALOOS, mis inimese väärtuse nii suureks, võimsaks ja oluliseks on tõstnud, kui seda võrrelda ükskõik millise muu 40 000 nde usundi ja filosoofiaga, siis keegi ei pääse ligilähedalegi selle suuruse, säravuse, lihtsuse ja võimsuse poolest selgitada tõeselt, kus suunas ja kuidas see potensiaaliga lahja sperma siin ujuma peaks. Ristiusk selgitab, et mitte ainult kogu loomingu Tegija Su isiklik sõber on, vaid Sa saad osa sellest tööst mis temal on... lisaks saad Naist ka maitsta kes Sindnõus tegemaoli. See juba muu kosmose teema.
Karta tuleb, et ei jõua piisavalt palju lambaid targaks pöörata elu jooksul, et ei saanud piisavalt palju Jumalat abistada, kes meid selleks siia tõi, et teeksime seda talle mida vaja. Et me enam ei oleks mõtetud nõrgad makaronid, vaid teeksime suurtes mõõtemetes, õigeid tegusi, ajarädamised on tava teema selleks ajaks, kui vaja.
Ja see, et "saatan" vana rooma endine jumal on, on elementaarne ja peaks lapselegi asja selgeks tegema, miks Greeka-Rooma kultuuris pederastia üks keskne teema oli mille kaudu nad eluenergiat imendusid ja uusi orjasi trukkisid (lisaks inimesi oma karvu maha ajama trikitades, et neil süda ei toimiks, et nad naisega normaalselt vaimselt läbi ei saaks ja et siis neid läbi alkoholi ja muude ideoloogide kergem kontrollida ja kes nõrgemast puust pedeks trukkida, ja mõne homo kõrget loovust omakorda, suurvõimuks kasutada, homomaafia. )
Sumerid Sumerid... jube leiutis, Vatikanil ammu elementaarne, sumerite kirjutised tahvlitel, kuidas naised milliseid SELLE aja inimesi laboris tegid, need KELLE maailm on 6000 aastat vana... uh.. hmm.. ei tea.. mis küll.. kui kaua aega tagasi see Sumeri kultuur oli .. umm? Kas hakkab koitma? :D
(kultuur mille Eestlased Luua aitasid oma Anude, Anu-Näkkidega, kuid see juba mu teema.. see pole "selle aja" teema mida see hawkinksi arvut lobisema pandudon mis oli niii arulagedalt nõrk ila, et ma kohe mõnuga rõvetsesin selle väljanaermise kallal, ja postitan selle ka siia, eks kunagi seda kõike õpin ka viisakalt väljendama ja ilusti... on juba aeg.. vaja vaimupuhastust teha..)
Kuid kuna kaitsen ka uskumist, siis Esiteks, kui inimene Usub, siis saab ta ARU, et tal ei ole vaja karta rohkem kui seda mida vaja, saad aru kuidas elu tuleb ja läheb, mida siin olla hirmul? Hirm ja kartmine muidugi eri asjad.
Mis "hea pääste" asja sa ajad? Kes siis selle pärast Jumalat usuks, et ta ise päästetud saaks.. mis idee see selline on.. ikka point on, et TEISED saaksid päästetud, see juba Jumala ja ta abiliste ja nende kelle päästnud oled otsustada, kas Sa ise vaja ja vääriline enam oled kui oma töö oled lõpuni viimase hingetõmbeni teinud.
Oleks äärmiselt idiootne ju siin unistada, kuskil kosmose paradiisist, kui SIIN on vaja asjad korda teha ja kõik muud kohad kuhu meel ja süda ulatub, olenevalt selles suuruses ja kauguses kui kellegile kohustuseks või tunnetuseks antud.
Muidugi ristiusu arusaam on Liberaalide kommarite poolt sul jälle kõrvade vahel 100% TÄEISTI vastupidi nii naeruväärselt, et kahju hakkab. RISTIUSK ON ESIMENE USK MAAILMA INIMESTE AJALOOS, mis inimese väärtuse nii suureks, võimsaks ja oluliseks on tõstnud, kui seda võrrelda ükskõik millise muu 40 000 nde usundi ja filosoofiaga, siis keegi ei pääse ligilähedalegi selle suuruse, säravuse, lihtsuse ja võimsuse poolest selgitada tõeselt, kus suunas ja kuidas see potensiaaliga lahja sperma siin ujuma peaks. Ristiusk selgitab, et mitte ainult kogu loomingu Tegija Su isiklik sõber on, vaid Sa saad osa sellest tööst mis temal on... lisaks saad Naist ka maitsta kes Sindnõus tegemaoli. See juba muu kosmose teema.
Karta tuleb, et ei jõua piisavalt palju lambaid targaks pöörata elu jooksul, et ei saanud piisavalt palju Jumalat abistada, kes meid selleks siia tõi, et teeksime seda talle mida vaja. Et me enam ei oleks mõtetud nõrgad makaronid, vaid teeksime suurtes mõõtemetes, õigeid tegusi, ajarädamised on tava teema selleks ajaks, kui vaja.
Ja see, et "saatan" vana rooma endine jumal on, on elementaarne ja peaks lapselegi asja selgeks tegema, miks Greeka-Rooma kultuuris pederastia üks keskne teema oli mille kaudu nad eluenergiat imendusid ja uusi orjasi trukkisid (lisaks inimesi oma karvu maha ajama trikitades, et neil süda ei toimiks, et nad naisega normaalselt vaimselt läbi ei saaks ja et siis neid läbi alkoholi ja muude ideoloogide kergem kontrollida ja kes nõrgemast puust pedeks trukkida, ja mõne homo kõrget loovust omakorda, suurvõimuks kasutada, homomaafia. )
Sumerid Sumerid... jube leiutis, Vatikanil ammu elementaarne, sumerite kirjutised tahvlitel, kuidas naised milliseid SELLE aja inimesi laboris tegid, need KELLE maailm on 6000 aastat vana... uh.. hmm.. ei tea.. mis küll.. kui kaua aega tagasi see Sumeri kultuur oli .. umm? Kas hakkab koitma? :D
(kultuur mille Eestlased Luua aitasid oma Anude, Anu-Näkkidega, kuid see juba mu teema.. see pole "selle aja" teema mida see hawkinksi arvut lobisema pandudon mis oli niii arulagedalt nõrk ila, et ma kohe mõnuga rõvetsesin selle väljanaermise kallal, ja postitan selle ka siia, eks kunagi seda kõike õpin ka viisakalt väljendama ja ilusti... on juba aeg.. vaja vaimupuhastust teha..)
29 June 2016 12:58
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
õnneks või õnnetuseks muidugi naistel endal ja olenditel võimalik mälu ja aega kustutada.. ja muus aegruumis nendega toimetada.. et siis ei pea reaal siin elus kandma neid valusi enamus, ja samal ajal veel mehega jaurama teleka puldi ja muude irinate üle..
29 June 2016 12:02
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
oih kui asjad nii naiivselt lihtsad oleks vaid.. muidugi sellise mõttemaailmaga inimesed on ideaalsed tööriistad..
Sellist juttu räägivad ka muidugi ainult niikaua inimesed, kui nad pole vaimude ja inim meelte ülevõtmisega tegelenud.
Korra paari rituaali pealt näed ja ehk veel sügavamas metsas muid olendeid, siis jutt muutubkiirelt ja ka see mokk hakkab võbelema koos hirmu ja nutu tulekuga,
Kõigerohkem muidugi kannatavad naised.. kellel siis ei ole mehelt absoluutselt mingit vaimset dimensioonilist kaitset ja ta peab orjama, sexuaalselt rahuldama ja piinatud saama muudes reaalsustes jumal teab kellede poolt.. ning suutma head nägu veel mehe ees teha, kelle kaudu pooled need jubedused temasse otse pääsevad..
sest jah, need multidimensionaalsed reaalsused on nii suured, et enamus paganaid mingil juhul ei suuda endale lubada tunnistada, nii suure möödapanekuga...sest kes seda vastutust julgeks võtta.. et ta vastutab ka teiste valu ja vaeva eest.. kui lapselikult nii kerge olu unistada kinnimeelselt, et ainult ISe ise ise vastutameja ise ise ise endale teeme.. yeah...
räägi seda ise endale tegemist siis kui võõrväed sissetulevad ja terve küla naistele rivi teevad... siis vaata neile naistele otsa ja ütle: nu ise teete seda endale... ainult ise loome endale mis meist saab.. ise ise ise..
kuid see lihtsalt lihtne maine näide... paljudest..
kui inimene ISE enda "jumalust" ja mida veel usub. siis peaks ta ka ise enda tehtud asju, ise enda tehtud ravimeid ja toite ainult pruukima, ise enda meediat ja riideid õmblema.. siis juba hakkab ISE midagi looma ehk.. senikaua aga see onselline kerglane liberaalide mugav vaimuvaene onaneerimine lõdva munniga, et mingit elu mõtet leida
Sellist juttu räägivad ka muidugi ainult niikaua inimesed, kui nad pole vaimude ja inim meelte ülevõtmisega tegelenud.
Korra paari rituaali pealt näed ja ehk veel sügavamas metsas muid olendeid, siis jutt muutubkiirelt ja ka see mokk hakkab võbelema koos hirmu ja nutu tulekuga,
Kõigerohkem muidugi kannatavad naised.. kellel siis ei ole mehelt absoluutselt mingit vaimset dimensioonilist kaitset ja ta peab orjama, sexuaalselt rahuldama ja piinatud saama muudes reaalsustes jumal teab kellede poolt.. ning suutma head nägu veel mehe ees teha, kelle kaudu pooled need jubedused temasse otse pääsevad..
sest jah, need multidimensionaalsed reaalsused on nii suured, et enamus paganaid mingil juhul ei suuda endale lubada tunnistada, nii suure möödapanekuga...sest kes seda vastutust julgeks võtta.. et ta vastutab ka teiste valu ja vaeva eest.. kui lapselikult nii kerge olu unistada kinnimeelselt, et ainult ISe ise ise vastutameja ise ise ise endale teeme.. yeah...
räägi seda ise endale tegemist siis kui võõrväed sissetulevad ja terve küla naistele rivi teevad... siis vaata neile naistele otsa ja ütle: nu ise teete seda endale... ainult ise loome endale mis meist saab.. ise ise ise..
kuid see lihtsalt lihtne maine näide... paljudest..
kui inimene ISE enda "jumalust" ja mida veel usub. siis peaks ta ka ise enda tehtud asju, ise enda tehtud ravimeid ja toite ainult pruukima, ise enda meediat ja riideid õmblema.. siis juba hakkab ISE midagi looma ehk.. senikaua aga see onselline kerglane liberaalide mugav vaimuvaene onaneerimine lõdva munniga, et mingit elu mõtet leida
29 June 2016 12:01
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
lastekasvatuse ja abielu omad tal jah päris head, või kuidas arvad?
29 June 2016 11:48
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov nU kasva kasva siis, kui ikka enda valmistaja osas sellised kompleksid ja hirmud on.. siis pole muu kui teraapia või psühedeelikumid abiks : )
29 June 2016 11:47
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Milline tõde muidu meeldivana kõrva jäi ?
29 June 2016 11:40
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Nu siis tubli, vähemalt hindad ja saad aru tarkusest, si ispole viga midagi.
Kummardama peaksid, kui kedagi siis oma Naist ja Jumalat
ja kui kummagi tegevuse osas on kahtlusi või hirme, üleolevust või ükskõiksust, siis on ilma kahtluseta vaja ravi, ja tark ja tubli on veel see, kes tajub ja nõustub, et tal ravi vaja.. siis on lootus, et ravi (või rabbi) ise paika loksub... kui aga väiksemgi ebamugavus nende sõnade juures tekib,siis on väga suur ohu signaal inimesel endale, et ... et kui hästi... siis veel on midagi päästa.. enamasti reegel on, et kui inimene mõtleb, et ehk on.. või kas on... siis üldiselt on, sest päästmatudel neid mõtteid ka enam peast läbi ei jookse, neid keda ise enda käest ei saa päästa jaon klammerdunud robotite või zombide külge, et kasuliku pioneerina täägiga oma sõbrad kaevu või ennast võlla lükata, kas siis hüsteeria või rõõmsa laulu saatel. Vahendeid jagub nende jaoks kes enam ei tunne, ... peaasi, et tundetu ise ette kujutaks, et ta midagi erilist ja ise oma pärast ISE ENDALE teeb... see enese upitamise kultus...
Kuid jah, ma Sind selles ei saa süüdistada, lihtsalt lahman mööda kõrvu ette ära igaks juhuks õhus, et näidata, kus maalt juba retarded on ja kuhu ei peaks langema, et inimene saaks oma väärikuse säilitada ja ajaloos pikas plaanis ka tarkade reas edasi muheledes olla, nagu poleks vahepeal aru peaaegu kaotanutki
Kummardama peaksid, kui kedagi siis oma Naist ja Jumalat
ja kui kummagi tegevuse osas on kahtlusi või hirme, üleolevust või ükskõiksust, siis on ilma kahtluseta vaja ravi, ja tark ja tubli on veel see, kes tajub ja nõustub, et tal ravi vaja.. siis on lootus, et ravi (või rabbi) ise paika loksub... kui aga väiksemgi ebamugavus nende sõnade juures tekib,siis on väga suur ohu signaal inimesel endale, et ... et kui hästi... siis veel on midagi päästa.. enamasti reegel on, et kui inimene mõtleb, et ehk on.. või kas on... siis üldiselt on, sest päästmatudel neid mõtteid ka enam peast läbi ei jookse, neid keda ise enda käest ei saa päästa jaon klammerdunud robotite või zombide külge, et kasuliku pioneerina täägiga oma sõbrad kaevu või ennast võlla lükata, kas siis hüsteeria või rõõmsa laulu saatel. Vahendeid jagub nende jaoks kes enam ei tunne, ... peaasi, et tundetu ise ette kujutaks, et ta midagi erilist ja ise oma pärast ISE ENDALE teeb... see enese upitamise kultus...
Kuid jah, ma Sind selles ei saa süüdistada, lihtsalt lahman mööda kõrvu ette ära igaks juhuks õhus, et näidata, kus maalt juba retarded on ja kuhu ei peaks langema, et inimene saaks oma väärikuse säilitada ja ajaloos pikas plaanis ka tarkade reas edasi muheledes olla, nagu poleks vahepeal aru peaaegu kaotanutki
29 June 2016 11:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The reason why the storm against Google has not reached its full potential so far is the fact that the US company has allowed tens of thousands of companies in the past 10 years to realise business ideas and found companies to live off the fat of Google. This is a reward that Google earned and it still weighs heavily. However, Google itself is in the process of undermining this protective wall by developing a lot additional ecommerce-products, products that are the essential business of its own customers."
29 June 2016 11:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Impressive and dangerous
This also includes the fiction of the culture of free services. On the Internet, in the beautiful colorful Google world, so much seems to be free of charge: from search services up to journalistic offerings. In truth we are paying with our behavior – with the predictability and commercial exploitation of our behavior. Anyone who has a car accident today, and mentions it in an e-mail, can receive an offer for a new car from a manufacturer on his mobile phone tomorrow. Terribly convenient. Today, someone surfing high-blood-pressure web sites, who automatically betrays his notorious sedentary lifestyle through his Jawbone fitness wristband, can expect a higher health insurance premium the day after tomorrow. Not at all convenient. Simply terrible. It is possible that it will not take much longer before more and more people realize that the currency of his or her own behavior exacts a high price: the freedom of self-determination. And that is why it is better and cheaper to pay with something very old fashioned – namely money.
Google is the world’s most powerful bank – but dealing only in behavioral currency. Nobody capitalizes on their knowledge about us as effectively as Google. This is impressive and dangerous. "
This also includes the fiction of the culture of free services. On the Internet, in the beautiful colorful Google world, so much seems to be free of charge: from search services up to journalistic offerings. In truth we are paying with our behavior – with the predictability and commercial exploitation of our behavior. Anyone who has a car accident today, and mentions it in an e-mail, can receive an offer for a new car from a manufacturer on his mobile phone tomorrow. Terribly convenient. Today, someone surfing high-blood-pressure web sites, who automatically betrays his notorious sedentary lifestyle through his Jawbone fitness wristband, can expect a higher health insurance premium the day after tomorrow. Not at all convenient. Simply terrible. It is possible that it will not take much longer before more and more people realize that the currency of his or her own behavior exacts a high price: the freedom of self-determination. And that is why it is better and cheaper to pay with something very old fashioned – namely money.
Google is the world’s most powerful bank – but dealing only in behavioral currency. Nobody capitalizes on their knowledge about us as effectively as Google. This is impressive and dangerous. "
29 June 2016 11:30
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Nii, et kuula sellest umbes 500 st videost, kasvõi see ÜKS ära ja jaga siin siis uuesti, et mis oli sellel mureks, mida ütleksid targemini selles osas ? Kus on vead mida peaks ta muutma, saadan parandused edasi.
29 June 2016 11:26
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Tark inimene muidugi ütleb, et ESIMENE asi mida inimesel vaja, et inimeseks areneda, ON Juuti kuulata, Kuid, See pole "mingi" juut, vaid Päris juut, ehk siis mitte see Liberaalide propakanda pilt mille kallal suurem osa asjaoludest pimedaid kaagutavad vaid tegelik, Eesti Naturaalse tarkuse lähedane, inim loomuse keskne tark inimene, keda kuulates, iga riigi keskmine IQ ja õnne aste kerkiks ilma igasuguse kahtluseta, mitte mõned punktid, vaid mitmekümned punktid,
Ja see on absoluutselt ilma igasuguse kahtluseta, ilma igasuguse liialduseta
Kuid jah.. kui neid kõverninasi lipsuga raha kiimas liberaalide või kommarite producte mõtled, kes oma ema vereliinipeal ligu lasevad ja inimrassi alaarendavad, siis mis neist rääkida, arvaku nad endid juudid olema või mis iganes.. õige juut räägib õige juudi asju ja promob õigeid juudi asju, tarkuse tunneb lihtsasti, kaugelt.
Nii silma, heli kui sisu ning tunde järgi
Ja see on absoluutselt ilma igasuguse kahtluseta, ilma igasuguse liialduseta
Kuid jah.. kui neid kõverninasi lipsuga raha kiimas liberaalide või kommarite producte mõtled, kes oma ema vereliinipeal ligu lasevad ja inimrassi alaarendavad, siis mis neist rääkida, arvaku nad endid juudid olema või mis iganes.. õige juut räägib õige juudi asju ja promob õigeid juudi asju, tarkuse tunneb lihtsasti, kaugelt.
Nii silma, heli kui sisu ning tunde järgi
29 June 2016 11:25
Margus Meigo replied to Tasleem Rashid's comment.
Are you sure by it ?
29 June 2016 11:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And the letter, lol... so nice start and the.. gotta love the style!
" In your text “Die Chancen des Wachstums” (English Version: “A Chance for Growth”) in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, you reply to an article which this newspaper had published a few days earlier under the title “Angst vor Google” (“Fear of Google”). You repeatedly mention the Axel Springer publishing house. In the spirit of transparency I would like to reply with an open letter to highlight a couple of things from our point of view.
(Deutsche Fassung: „Warum wir Google fürchten“ - Mathias Döpfners offener Brief an Eric Schmidt)
We have known each other for many years, and have, as you state, had lengthy and frequent discussions on the relationship between European publishers and Google. As you know, I am a great admirer of Google’s entrepreneurial success. In just a few short years, starting in 1998, this company has grown to employ almost 50,000 people worldwide, generated sixty billion dollars in revenue last year, and has a current market capitalization of more than 350 billion dollars. Google is not only the biggest search engine in the world, but along with Youtube (the second biggest search engine in the world) it also has the largest video platform, with Chrome the biggest browser, with Gmail the most widely used e-mail provider, and with Android the biggest operating system for mobile devices. Your article rightly points out what fabulous impetus Google has given to growth of the digital economy. In 2013, Google made a profit of fourteen billion dollars. I take my hat off to this outstanding entrepreneurial performance.
Google doesn’t need us. But we need Google
In your text you refer to the marketing cooperation between Google and Axel Springer. We were also happy with it. But some of our readers have now interpreted this to mean that Axel Springer is evidently schizophrenic. ... "
:D
Letter continues:
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/debatten/mathias-doepfner-s-open-letter-to-eric-schmidt-12900860-p2.html?printPagedArticle=true#pageIndex_2
" In your text “Die Chancen des Wachstums” (English Version: “A Chance for Growth”) in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, you reply to an article which this newspaper had published a few days earlier under the title “Angst vor Google” (“Fear of Google”). You repeatedly mention the Axel Springer publishing house. In the spirit of transparency I would like to reply with an open letter to highlight a couple of things from our point of view.
(Deutsche Fassung: „Warum wir Google fürchten“ - Mathias Döpfners offener Brief an Eric Schmidt)
We have known each other for many years, and have, as you state, had lengthy and frequent discussions on the relationship between European publishers and Google. As you know, I am a great admirer of Google’s entrepreneurial success. In just a few short years, starting in 1998, this company has grown to employ almost 50,000 people worldwide, generated sixty billion dollars in revenue last year, and has a current market capitalization of more than 350 billion dollars. Google is not only the biggest search engine in the world, but along with Youtube (the second biggest search engine in the world) it also has the largest video platform, with Chrome the biggest browser, with Gmail the most widely used e-mail provider, and with Android the biggest operating system for mobile devices. Your article rightly points out what fabulous impetus Google has given to growth of the digital economy. In 2013, Google made a profit of fourteen billion dollars. I take my hat off to this outstanding entrepreneurial performance.
Google doesn’t need us. But we need Google
In your text you refer to the marketing cooperation between Google and Axel Springer. We were also happy with it. But some of our readers have now interpreted this to mean that Axel Springer is evidently schizophrenic. ... "
:D
Letter continues:
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/debatten/mathias-doepfner-s-open-letter-to-eric-schmidt-12900860-p2.html?printPagedArticle=true#pageIndex_2
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/debatten/mathias-doepfner-s-open-letter-to-eric-schmidt-12900860-p2.html?printPagedArticle=true#pageIndex_2
29 June 2016 11:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and the comment section there is hot:
"Knowing at the time Google was offering a beta gmail that would extrapolate data contained in the e-mail to perform "targeted" marketing was an open invitation to perform a general PSYOP. Create an account, seed your e-mails, and create interesting chains (did anyone think they wouldn't scarf the mailx headers too?) and monitor the results returned from gmail presentation of their processing model. Great fun.
I have several e-mails that generate NO RESULTS for the content of the e-mail--that's qualifiies as a winner and if you send it to someone you can be assured that you can garner unwanted attention for the recipient...also great fun. I have some fully tested samples that use two different testing models; an e-mail containing detailed data about fissile plasma triggers for testing weapons based filters, another sample set includes information security and electronic warfare tech snippets. Haven't focused on "illegal" types of scenarios--I don't believe that technological information of and by itself constitutes "illegal" information.
Another account is a masked identity, an account that allows me to test the bounds of interchange (mailx) headers...testing the attention one might receive if for example purchasing "burner" phones, pay cards, and encoded messages. Want to really get attention, embedded stenographic images inside PDF files...gets em every time.
Go have some fun... "
"Knowing at the time Google was offering a beta gmail that would extrapolate data contained in the e-mail to perform "targeted" marketing was an open invitation to perform a general PSYOP. Create an account, seed your e-mails, and create interesting chains (did anyone think they wouldn't scarf the mailx headers too?) and monitor the results returned from gmail presentation of their processing model. Great fun.
I have several e-mails that generate NO RESULTS for the content of the e-mail--that's qualifiies as a winner and if you send it to someone you can be assured that you can garner unwanted attention for the recipient...also great fun. I have some fully tested samples that use two different testing models; an e-mail containing detailed data about fissile plasma triggers for testing weapons based filters, another sample set includes information security and electronic warfare tech snippets. Haven't focused on "illegal" types of scenarios--I don't believe that technological information of and by itself constitutes "illegal" information.
Another account is a masked identity, an account that allows me to test the bounds of interchange (mailx) headers...testing the attention one might receive if for example purchasing "burner" phones, pay cards, and encoded messages. Want to really get attention, embedded stenographic images inside PDF files...gets em every time.
Go have some fun... "
29 June 2016 11:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And on same old topic before:
We know of no alternative which could offer even partially comparable technological prerequisites for the automated marketing of advertising. And we cannot afford to give up this source of revenue because we desperately need the money for technological investments in the future. Which is why other publishers are increasingly doing the same. We also know of no alternative search engine which could maintain or increase our online reach. A large proportion of high quality journalistic media receives its traffic primarily via Google. In other areas, especially of a non-journalistic nature, customers find their way to suppliers almost exclusively though Google. This means, in plain language, that we and many others are dependent on Google. At the moment Google has a 91.2 percent search-engine market share in Germany. In this case, the statement "if you don't like Google, you can remove yourself from their listings and go elsewhere" is about as realistic as recommending to an opponent of nuclear power that he just stop using electricity. He simply cannot do this in real life unless he wants to join the Amish.
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/05/fearing_google.html
We know of no alternative which could offer even partially comparable technological prerequisites for the automated marketing of advertising. And we cannot afford to give up this source of revenue because we desperately need the money for technological investments in the future. Which is why other publishers are increasingly doing the same. We also know of no alternative search engine which could maintain or increase our online reach. A large proportion of high quality journalistic media receives its traffic primarily via Google. In other areas, especially of a non-journalistic nature, customers find their way to suppliers almost exclusively though Google. This means, in plain language, that we and many others are dependent on Google. At the moment Google has a 91.2 percent search-engine market share in Germany. In this case, the statement "if you don't like Google, you can remove yourself from their listings and go elsewhere" is about as realistic as recommending to an opponent of nuclear power that he just stop using electricity. He simply cannot do this in real life unless he wants to join the Amish.
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/05/fearing_google.html
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/05/fearing_google.html
29 June 2016 11:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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29 June 2016 11:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
then they give instructions how to make scratching itchy beard that will leave Your women skin burned and broken after mingling
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-groom-sexy-10-day-beard-2015-10
Make a fake "i just have a beard.. not care .." in a barbara shop.. how silly can people go.. just lost in words
beard is not a freaking design element !
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-groom-sexy-10-day-beard-2015-10
Make a fake "i just have a beard.. not care .." in a barbara shop.. how silly can people go.. just lost in words
beard is not a freaking design element !
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-groom-sexy-10-day-beard-2015-10
29 June 2016 10:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So business insider is off from my reading list forever, have not seen anything so retarded written by none of the business clean shaven looking serious news portals before
then listing these man there on the link, and comparing their vests... what in a world has happened .,., did someone buy this magazine, site some time ago?
Not even start to say, what kind of people we keep in eye, as suspect for that perversion of business news portal
then listing these man there on the link, and comparing their vests... what in a world has happened .,., did someone buy this magazine, site some time ago?
Not even start to say, what kind of people we keep in eye, as suspect for that perversion of business news portal
29 June 2016 10:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and at same time, in parallel universe:
"According to an interview The Times UK did with historian Alun Withey, an academic who will run a three-year research project on the beard and its cultural history in the UK, people have been predicting the end of the beard since 2013.
Each time it seems they've been wrong, and the beard has maintained as strong as ever in the eyes of the public.
"People have been predicting the fall of them since 2014 and that Peak Beard has been reached," he told The Times UK.
This time however, it's really ending. Like, actually. He says it's all down to the historical pattern, which, according to his data, is predicting a huge decline right around now.
"There will be a backlash," he said. "They are divisive. There is already a backlash in the United States where there’s a new ideal; the yuccie."
The yuccie, as determined by writer David Yi at Mashable, is a "Young Urban Creative."
Withey says this class is in ascendance, and with it will come the end of the era of beards, since yuccies prefer a "stricter, sleeker look." They will eventually become the defining class. "
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-the-beard-will-die-in-2016-2016-1
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Sorry alien homo gay robot plastic faces heartless saicos ... BEARDS will come, and root out Your Greek-Roman pederasty fantasy of shaven faces, from where it all started.. army and..
"According to an interview The Times UK did with historian Alun Withey, an academic who will run a three-year research project on the beard and its cultural history in the UK, people have been predicting the end of the beard since 2013.
Each time it seems they've been wrong, and the beard has maintained as strong as ever in the eyes of the public.
"People have been predicting the fall of them since 2014 and that Peak Beard has been reached," he told The Times UK.
This time however, it's really ending. Like, actually. He says it's all down to the historical pattern, which, according to his data, is predicting a huge decline right around now.
"There will be a backlash," he said. "They are divisive. There is already a backlash in the United States where there’s a new ideal; the yuccie."
The yuccie, as determined by writer David Yi at Mashable, is a "Young Urban Creative."
Withey says this class is in ascendance, and with it will come the end of the era of beards, since yuccies prefer a "stricter, sleeker look." They will eventually become the defining class. "
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-the-beard-will-die-in-2016-2016-1
____
Sorry alien homo gay robot plastic faces heartless saicos ... BEARDS will come, and root out Your Greek-Roman pederasty fantasy of shaven faces, from where it all started.. army and..
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-the-beard-will-die-in-2016-2016-1
29 June 2016 10:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
OKey, it gets even ridiculously funnier (read the Reply article also) :
" Jose Armos, a Miami-based paramedic, paid $7,000 earlier this year for a beard transplant from Dr Epstein's clinic. "It was hard for people to trust me because I had that baby face,” says the 28-year old. "So I wanted that stronger, manlier look.
Pittsburgh University worker Ray also wanted to look more masculine – and believed a beard was the perfect way to achieve this. The 53-year old has had three beard transplants in the last four years; despite sporting a full and luscious beard, his wallet is now $22,000 "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/fashion-and-style/11911623/Men-are-spending-up-to-14500-on-beard-transplants.html
" Jose Armos, a Miami-based paramedic, paid $7,000 earlier this year for a beard transplant from Dr Epstein's clinic. "It was hard for people to trust me because I had that baby face,” says the 28-year old. "So I wanted that stronger, manlier look.
Pittsburgh University worker Ray also wanted to look more masculine – and believed a beard was the perfect way to achieve this. The 53-year old has had three beard transplants in the last four years; despite sporting a full and luscious beard, his wallet is now $22,000 "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/fashion-and-style/11911623/Men-are-spending-up-to-14500-on-beard-transplants.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/fashion-and-style/11911623/Men-are-spending-up-to-14500-on-beard-transplants.html
29 June 2016 10:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Beginning of article:
"Way back in the mists of the distant past, probably sometime in the late 1990s, a man grew a beard. It looked good—masculine, rugged but not unclean, the beard of a guy who had a bunch of different tools and knew how to use all of them, but also the beard of a guy who read poetry in his spare time and understood it. Other men saw that this was good and decided to grow their own beards, and in this way, a trend was born. Men talked about their beards. They groomed their beards. People went on television to discuss beards—were they good? Yes, they were. Beards were judged in contests. Histories of beards were written and published. Famous people grew beards, and these too were found to be good.
But now, a newspaper distributed throughout the land—a publication so august and prestigious it is known as the Journal of Wall Street—brings us troubling news of beards: Is the beard trend over? Is The Beard Trend Over? IS THE BEARD TREND OVER?!?!?"
Barbers quoted in the Journal article noted that even among the stubbornly bearded, it is now fashionable to reduce them in volume. To drive home this point, the paper published a photo selection ridiculing "Celebrities with Questionable Beards," which mercilessly mocked stars such as Leonardo DiCaprio. "Leo's mountain man beard worked for him during his turn as fur trapper Hugh Glass in The Revenant, but is it the best look for the wilds of Hollywood?" one caption asked. Presumably, the answer is "no." Burn.
While in reality:
http://nypost.com/2016/04/12/the-bearded-hipster-trend-has-truly-and-utterly-taken-over-new-york/
"Way back in the mists of the distant past, probably sometime in the late 1990s, a man grew a beard. It looked good—masculine, rugged but not unclean, the beard of a guy who had a bunch of different tools and knew how to use all of them, but also the beard of a guy who read poetry in his spare time and understood it. Other men saw that this was good and decided to grow their own beards, and in this way, a trend was born. Men talked about their beards. They groomed their beards. People went on television to discuss beards—were they good? Yes, they were. Beards were judged in contests. Histories of beards were written and published. Famous people grew beards, and these too were found to be good.
But now, a newspaper distributed throughout the land—a publication so august and prestigious it is known as the Journal of Wall Street—brings us troubling news of beards: Is the beard trend over? Is The Beard Trend Over? IS THE BEARD TREND OVER?!?!?"
Barbers quoted in the Journal article noted that even among the stubbornly bearded, it is now fashionable to reduce them in volume. To drive home this point, the paper published a photo selection ridiculing "Celebrities with Questionable Beards," which mercilessly mocked stars such as Leonardo DiCaprio. "Leo's mountain man beard worked for him during his turn as fur trapper Hugh Glass in The Revenant, but is it the best look for the wilds of Hollywood?" one caption asked. Presumably, the answer is "no." Burn.
While in reality:
http://nypost.com/2016/04/12/the-bearded-hipster-trend-has-truly-and-utterly-taken-over-new-york/
http://nypost.com/2016/04/12/the-bearded-hipster-trend-has-truly-and-utterly-taken-over-new-york/
29 June 2016 10:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Good one:
"Obviously we do not want to admit that beards are bad, but when faced with the carefully documented and exhaustive evidence compiled by the Journal, we have no choice but to return to our razors like the craven, despicable trend chasers we are.
Here is the paper's indisputable proof: According to a 24-year-old—the hippest age—who works in sales—the hippest field—at Ralph Lauren—the hippest brand—beards are bad: "You go to a bar, and all you see are bearded dudes. I don't like it," he told the Journal. "
"If photos of famous people and the undeniable testimony of a 24-year-old aren't enough to convince you that beards are uncool, perhaps you will be persuaded by a survey finding that 67 percent of men in stylish, cutting-edge New York City have beards—as everyone knows, nothing signals the death of a trend like its extreme popularity. "
https://www.vice.com/read/beards-are-now-uncool
"Obviously we do not want to admit that beards are bad, but when faced with the carefully documented and exhaustive evidence compiled by the Journal, we have no choice but to return to our razors like the craven, despicable trend chasers we are.
Here is the paper's indisputable proof: According to a 24-year-old—the hippest age—who works in sales—the hippest field—at Ralph Lauren—the hippest brand—beards are bad: "You go to a bar, and all you see are bearded dudes. I don't like it," he told the Journal. "
"If photos of famous people and the undeniable testimony of a 24-year-old aren't enough to convince you that beards are uncool, perhaps you will be persuaded by a survey finding that 67 percent of men in stylish, cutting-edge New York City have beards—as everyone knows, nothing signals the death of a trend like its extreme popularity. "
https://www.vice.com/read/beards-are-now-uncool
https://www.vice.com/read/beards-are-now-uncool
29 June 2016 10:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Manis is Kohen,
Jewish kohanim are traditionally believed and halakhically required to be of direct patrilineal descent from the biblical Aaron.
In the Samaritan community, the kohanim have remained the primary religious leaders
The term is colloquially used in Orthodox Judaism in reference to modern day descendants of Aharon, brother of Moses.
Jewish kohanim are traditionally believed and halakhically required to be of direct patrilineal descent from the biblical Aaron.
In the Samaritan community, the kohanim have remained the primary religious leaders
The term is colloquially used in Orthodox Judaism in reference to modern day descendants of Aharon, brother of Moses.
29 June 2016 09:27
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Pealegi keset looduse aeda, ju need kes võtavad, juba sellised kes ise ussikesi ei viitsi püüda, ... ja seega parem ka näiteks lääbakil rongaemale anda pizzat kui teda kolme lapsega lahja toidupeal hoida
nu loodan
muretsesin jah, et neil nagu magu kinni tõmbab vms, siis pole hullu miskit
Kuid link on hea, tänud!
nu loodan
muretsesin jah, et neil nagu magu kinni tõmbab vms, siis pole hullu miskit
Kuid link on hea, tänud!
29 June 2016 09:08
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ai mul on ikka korralikud, 24% seemnetest leivad ja seemne täistera sepitud ja asjad.
Artiklis nad muretsevad, et kui näljaga rämps saiakesi ja küpsiseid söövad.
Ma juba ehmatasin,et neil magu kinni läheb vms.
Ja need pisikesed linnud ka... tuvid, kajakad, varesed, harakad, rongad.. need mu põhi klientuur.. söövad mu enda muidu ära kui süüa ei anna :p
Artiklis nad muretsevad, et kui näljaga rämps saiakesi ja küpsiseid söövad.
Ma juba ehmatasin,et neil magu kinni läheb vms.
Ja need pisikesed linnud ka... tuvid, kajakad, varesed, harakad, rongad.. need mu põhi klientuur.. söövad mu enda muidu ära kui süüa ei anna :p
29 June 2016 09:06
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
nu ega ma neil seda kurgust alla lükka..
ega ma tea ka kes seda sööb tegelikult..
kindel, et kõigile on halb v?
Sigasi pole kellegil linna ligi?
ega ma tea ka kes seda sööb tegelikult..
kindel, et kõigile on halb v?
Sigasi pole kellegil linna ligi?
29 June 2016 08:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. "According to the Australian Jewish News, Rabbi Friedman, in a speech in the 1980s, framed the holocaust as part of a divine plan. Friedman reportedly stated “Who in fact died and who remained alive had nothing to do with the Nazis,” and “not a single Jewish child died because of the Nazis … they died in their relationship with God.” According to the paper, Friedman's statements were not well received by local holocaust survivors
// was not? ... oh, was they by any chance Godly people, or religious at least who had issue with how God cleans and deals with he's own people ? .. maybe yes, maybe we can have issue with it.. free will, innit.
http://manisfriedman.blogspot.com.ee/p/rabbe-rabi-manis-friedman.html
// was not? ... oh, was they by any chance Godly people, or religious at least who had issue with how God cleans and deals with he's own people ? .. maybe yes, maybe we can have issue with it.. free will, innit.
http://manisfriedman.blogspot.com.ee/p/rabbe-rabi-manis-friedman.html
29 June 2016 08:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Great start in here "probably you did not want to heart hat.. "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrX6W01J4jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrX6W01J4jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrX6W01J4jo
29 June 2016 06:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(Not related, but) #science #jewishscience
From these simple things, that is beautiful and wise to hear, to the levels of about Atom molecule spiritual energy and entities working in these levels (as middle point, to... )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZP59XGvM08
From these simple things, that is beautiful and wise to hear, to the levels of about Atom molecule spiritual energy and entities working in these levels (as middle point, to... )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZP59XGvM08
29 June 2016 06:00
Margus Meigo commented on Unite The Beards's link.
Send few on our way please : )
29 June 2016 05:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
tasuta st
leiba võib ise ka süüa.. leib söödav teatavasti aastaid...
leiba võib ise ka süüa.. leib söödav teatavasti aastaid...
29 June 2016 05:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Thank God,
Jumal Tänatud (ja targad inimesed, kes püüavad mitte toitu hävitada ja seda kättesaadavalt paigutada..): )
Jumal Tänatud (ja targad inimesed, kes püüavad mitte toitu hävitada ja seda kättesaadavalt paigutada..): )
29 June 2016 05:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#Skipping
https://vimeo.com/164397595
https://vimeo.com/164397595
https://vimeo.com/164397595
29 June 2016 05:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The documents were recorded using ultrafast laser, producing extremely short and intense pulses of light. The file is written in three layers of nanostructured dots separated by five micrometres (one millionth of a metre).
The self-assembled nanostructures change the way light travels through glass, modifying polarisation of light that can then be read by combination of optical microscope and a polariser, similar to that found in Polaroid sunglasses.
Coined as the ‘Superman memory crystal’, as the glass memory has been compared to the “memory crystals” used in the Superman films, the data is recorded via self-assembled nanostructures created in fused quartz. The information encoding is realised in five dimensions: the size and orientation in addition to the three dimensional position of these nanostructures.
Professor Peter Kazansky, from the ORC, says: “It is thrilling to think that we have created the technology to preserve documents and information and store it in space for future generations. This technology can secure the last evidence of our civilisation: all we’ve learnt will not be forgotten.”
The researchers will present their research at the photonics industry's renowned SPIE—The International Society for Optical Engineering Conference in San Francisco, USA this week. The invited paper, ‘5D Data Storage by Ultrafast Laser Writing in Glass’ will be presented on Wednesday 17 February.
The team are now looking for industry partners to further develop and commercialise this ground-breaking new technology.
http://www.southampton.ac.uk/news/2016/02/5d-data-storage-update.page
The self-assembled nanostructures change the way light travels through glass, modifying polarisation of light that can then be read by combination of optical microscope and a polariser, similar to that found in Polaroid sunglasses.
Coined as the ‘Superman memory crystal’, as the glass memory has been compared to the “memory crystals” used in the Superman films, the data is recorded via self-assembled nanostructures created in fused quartz. The information encoding is realised in five dimensions: the size and orientation in addition to the three dimensional position of these nanostructures.
Professor Peter Kazansky, from the ORC, says: “It is thrilling to think that we have created the technology to preserve documents and information and store it in space for future generations. This technology can secure the last evidence of our civilisation: all we’ve learnt will not be forgotten.”
The researchers will present their research at the photonics industry's renowned SPIE—The International Society for Optical Engineering Conference in San Francisco, USA this week. The invited paper, ‘5D Data Storage by Ultrafast Laser Writing in Glass’ will be presented on Wednesday 17 February.
The team are now looking for industry partners to further develop and commercialise this ground-breaking new technology.
http://www.southampton.ac.uk/news/2016/02/5d-data-storage-update.page
http://www.southampton.ac.uk/news/2016/02/5d-data-storage-update.page
29 June 2016 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's post.
I still can not get it, is England celebrating or complaining about it that You become a bit more independent again ? !
.. I mean England still have the British thing to sort out out and old Nomands-France thing but still.. what is the mood in UK?
.. I mean England still have the British thing to sort out out and old Nomands-France thing but still.. what is the mood in UK?
29 June 2016 03:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEbr6zG-LZo : ))
As long we have..
As long we have..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEbr6zG-LZo
29 June 2016 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://beforeitsnews.com/movies/2014/02/jupiter-ascending-gnostic-fruitless-endless-mythology-2438620.html
http://beforeitsnews.com/movies/2014/02/jupiter-ascending-gnostic-fruitless-endless-mythology-2438620.html
29 June 2016 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread795940/pg1
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread795940/pg1
29 June 2016 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/moviemom/2011/09/interview-adam-and-mark-kassen-of-puncture.html
http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/moviemom/2011/09/interview-adam-and-mark-kassen-of-puncture.html
29 June 2016 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/05/20-indicators-that-signal-you-may-be-living-in-the-matrix-2-3155780.html
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/05/20-indicators-that-signal-you-may-be-living-in-the-matrix-2-3155780.html
29 June 2016 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread607819/pg1
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread607819/pg1
29 June 2016 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.think-aboutit.com/slenderman-the-suicide-spirit/
http://www.think-aboutit.com/slenderman-the-suicide-spirit/
29 June 2016 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://beforeitsnews.com/motor-junkies/2013/12/those-great-people-in-new-zealand-are-continuing-that-hobbit-advertising-on-air-new-zealand-best-advertising-ive-seen-this-year-2482940.html
http://beforeitsnews.com/motor-junkies/2013/12/those-great-people-in-new-zealand-are-continuing-that-hobbit-advertising-on-air-new-zealand-best-advertising-ive-seen-this-year-2482940.html
29 June 2016 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2010/06/hollywood-mind-control-72360.html
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2010/06/hollywood-mind-control-72360.html
29 June 2016 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-liberal/2015/01/welcome-to-the-matrix-enslaved-by-technology-and-the-internet-of-things-2497574.html
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-liberal/2015/01/welcome-to-the-matrix-enslaved-by-technology-and-the-internet-of-things-2497574.html
29 June 2016 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
me also not, unless forced by trickery http://www.infowars.com/jesse-ventura-i-will-never-commit-suicide/
http://www.infowars.com/jesse-ventura-i-will-never-commit-suicide/
29 June 2016 02:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3159589/pg1
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3159589/pg1
29 June 2016 02:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread382630/pg14
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread382630/pg14
29 June 2016 02:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2690480/pg1
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2690480/pg1
29 June 2016 02:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread806001/pg2&mem=
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread806001/pg2&mem=
29 June 2016 02:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://beforeitsnews.com/celebrities/2016/04/why-minnesota-does-not-want-you-to-know-about-princes-death-2474498.html
http://beforeitsnews.com/celebrities/2016/04/why-minnesota-does-not-want-you-to-know-about-princes-death-2474498.html
29 June 2016 02:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1074909/pg1
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1074909/pg1
29 June 2016 02:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
cute http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-The-Architect-from-The-Matrix-bears-a-striking-resemblance-to?pid=5029650
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-The-Architect-from-The-Matrix-bears-a-striking-resemblance-to?pid=5029650
29 June 2016 02:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://beforeitsnews.com/financial-markets/2015/10/infographics-the-internet-of-things-and-our-mobile-future-lessons-from-the-matrix-2849516.html
http://beforeitsnews.com/financial-markets/2015/10/infographics-the-internet-of-things-and-our-mobile-future-lessons-from-the-matrix-2849516.html
29 June 2016 02:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1107653/pg1
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1107653/pg1
29 June 2016 02:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message834600/pg1
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message834600/pg1
29 June 2016 02:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
more .like it.. Nomands.. Rus.. england invaders.. http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3177381/pg1
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3177381/pg1
29 June 2016 02:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.infowars.com/the-virtual-society-is-being-built-refining-the-matrix/
http://www.infowars.com/the-virtual-society-is-being-built-refining-the-matrix/
29 June 2016 02:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.rense.com/general70/ilum.htm
http://www.rense.com/general70/ilum.htm
29 June 2016 02:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1062627/pg11
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1062627/pg11
29 June 2016 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2273900/pg1
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2273900/pg1
29 June 2016 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1825478/pg1
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1825478/pg1
29 June 2016 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sure sure... ".Our.."
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/204427/our_universe_may_be_a_matrixlike_computer_game_designed_by_aliens_says_nasa_scientist/
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/204427/our_universe_may_be_a_matrixlike_computer_game_designed_by_aliens_says_nasa_scientist/
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/204427/our_universe_may_be_a_matrixlike_computer_game_designed_by_aliens_says_nasa_scientist/
29 June 2016 02:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/12/how-is-your-holograph-going-2-nasa-scientist-says-we-may-be-living-in-a-matrix-like-digital-imprisonment-designed-by-aliens-3268744.html
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/12/how-is-your-holograph-going-2-nasa-scientist-says-we-may-be-living-in-a-matrix-like-digital-imprisonment-designed-by-aliens-3268744.html
29 June 2016 02:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2014/12/the-coming-great-deception-jupiter-ascending-2480056.html
.. and http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1044950/pg3
.. and http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1044950/pg3
http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2014/12/the-coming-great-deception-jupiter-ascending-2480056.html
29 June 2016 02:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2015/02/odin-ascending-the-eternal-ice-2483688.html
http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2015/02/odin-ascending-the-eternal-ice-2483688.html
29 June 2016 02:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://youtu.be/JvKEwr0iNA0
https://youtu.be/JvKEwr0iNA0
29 June 2016 02:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2488273/pg1
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2488273/pg1
29 June 2016 02:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/globalistscript029nov12.shtml
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/globalistscript029nov12.shtml
29 June 2016 02:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/04/project-camelot-the-real-author-of-the-matrix-sophia-stewart-3144458.html
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/04/project-camelot-the-real-author-of-the-matrix-sophia-stewart-3144458.html
29 June 2016 02:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1062660/pg1
29 June 2016 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=62227.0
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=62227.0
29 June 2016 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So what more to discover in here..
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=wachowski&gsc.sort=
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=wachowski&gsc.sort=
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=wachowski&gsc.sort=
29 June 2016 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey this was something, that is not in many people's mind .. clear, knowing, ... that Laurence "Larry" Wachowski (Lana Wachowski) and Andrew Paul "Andy" Wachowski (Lilly Wachowski) They are both openly transgender women, Known together professionally as The Wachowskis and formerly as The Wachowski Brothers, the pair made their directing debut in 1996 with Bound, and reached fame with their second film The Matrix .
//So.. we would say matrix got them innit..
Following the commercial success of The Matrix series ( Ghost in the Shell, Ninja Scroll, and Akira were anime that inspired them) , they wrote and produced the V for Vendetta , Speed Racer, Cloud Atlas, Jupiter Ascending and TV series Sense8.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wachowskis
Lana is the first major Hollywood director to come out as transgender.[7]
In October 2012 Lana Wachowski received the Human Rights Campaign's Visibility Award.[91] In her acceptance speech, she revealed that once during her youth, she had considered committing suicide because of her feelings of confusion about identity. Her acceptance speech was one of the longest public appearances by either of the notoriously reclusive siblings. Lana said that, although she and her sister had not publicly commented on her transitioning during the previous decade, it was not because she was ashamed of it, nor had she kept it a secret from her family and friends. Rather, she and her sister are both generally shy about the news media and prefer to maintain their privacy. Comparing media exposure to losing one's virginity as an irreversible event that only happens once, the Wachowskis had tried to stay out of the public eye. They feared losing their privacy and the ability to go to public places without being noticed and harassed as celebrities.
Explaining her decision to appear at the HRC event, Lana said,
"there are some things we do for ourselves, but there are some things we do for others. I am here because when I was young, I wanted very badly to be a writer, I wanted to be a filmmaker, but I couldn't find anyone like me in the world and it felt like my dreams were foreclosed simply because my gender was less typical than others. If I can be that person for someone else, then the sacrifice of my private civic life may have value."
In February 2014, Lana received the Freedom Award from Equality Illinois at their annual gala in Chicago.
Lilly's gender transition
In March 2016, Lilly Wachowski also came out as a transgender woman, issuing a statement to the Windy City Times after a visit from a reporter from the Daily Mail newspaper.
While on the red carpet of the 27th GLAAD Media Awards, Lilly commented she had been hiding she was transgender throughout her "whole life"
// Stranshgi le osPti llfather.. painter mother.. and two kids .. with same anomality ..
//So.. we would say matrix got them innit..
Following the commercial success of The Matrix series ( Ghost in the Shell, Ninja Scroll, and Akira were anime that inspired them) , they wrote and produced the V for Vendetta , Speed Racer, Cloud Atlas, Jupiter Ascending and TV series Sense8.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wachowskis
Lana is the first major Hollywood director to come out as transgender.[7]
In October 2012 Lana Wachowski received the Human Rights Campaign's Visibility Award.[91] In her acceptance speech, she revealed that once during her youth, she had considered committing suicide because of her feelings of confusion about identity. Her acceptance speech was one of the longest public appearances by either of the notoriously reclusive siblings. Lana said that, although she and her sister had not publicly commented on her transitioning during the previous decade, it was not because she was ashamed of it, nor had she kept it a secret from her family and friends. Rather, she and her sister are both generally shy about the news media and prefer to maintain their privacy. Comparing media exposure to losing one's virginity as an irreversible event that only happens once, the Wachowskis had tried to stay out of the public eye. They feared losing their privacy and the ability to go to public places without being noticed and harassed as celebrities.
Explaining her decision to appear at the HRC event, Lana said,
"there are some things we do for ourselves, but there are some things we do for others. I am here because when I was young, I wanted very badly to be a writer, I wanted to be a filmmaker, but I couldn't find anyone like me in the world and it felt like my dreams were foreclosed simply because my gender was less typical than others. If I can be that person for someone else, then the sacrifice of my private civic life may have value."
In February 2014, Lana received the Freedom Award from Equality Illinois at their annual gala in Chicago.
Lilly's gender transition
In March 2016, Lilly Wachowski also came out as a transgender woman, issuing a statement to the Windy City Times after a visit from a reporter from the Daily Mail newspaper.
While on the red carpet of the 27th GLAAD Media Awards, Lilly commented she had been hiding she was transgender throughout her "whole life"
// Stranshgi le osPti llfather.. painter mother.. and two kids .. with same anomality ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wachowskis
29 June 2016 01:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Keanu instead taking a part playing in Swedish Dicks .. what a name
http://www.youthhealthmag.com/articles/41684/20160314/keanu-reeves-swedish-dicks-news-dating-relationship-john-wick-2.htm
http://www.youthhealthmag.com/articles/41684/20160314/keanu-reeves-swedish-dicks-news-dating-relationship-john-wick-2.htm
http://www.youthhealthmag.com/articles/41684/20160314/keanu-reeves-swedish-dicks-news-dating-relationship-john-wick-2.htm
29 June 2016 01:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I think Smith and bankers are in it also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mJdAioYNqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mJdAioYNqw
29 June 2016 01:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.. i mean we forget sometimes what kind of underling philosophy made these ..
29 June 2016 00:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
To You and to System...
See mis meie vahel oli
Seda tegelikult polnud
Tuhat tunnistajat väidavad
Et olin mujal olnud
Minu vastu parem ära sõda alusta
Sest sa kaotad ilma halastuseta
Sa ju ei taha
Et sulle tehtaks seda
Mida teistele sa teed
See maailm tundub niigi liiga ebaõiglane
Jäid rongist maha
Auto pritsis sinu mantli täis
Ja terav valu sinustki sel hetkel läbi käis
Ma ei hakka sulle seda parem üldse seletama
Muidu peaksin kogu tõe ma justkui kokku valetama
Tuhat võõrast kurja hinge elab minu sees (kuid valitud head ja mitte ainult..kas tead..)
Ja ainus vabandus on see
Et olen lihtsalt (tehtud) mees
Ka Sa ei taha
Et Sulle tehtaks seda
Mida teistele Sa teed
See maailm tundub niigi liiga ebaõiglane
Jäid rongist maha
..
Ja terav valu minustki sel hetkel läbi käis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y10FrSCXDi4
See mis meie vahel oli
Seda tegelikult polnud
Tuhat tunnistajat väidavad
Et olin mujal olnud
Minu vastu parem ära sõda alusta
Sest sa kaotad ilma halastuseta
Sa ju ei taha
Et sulle tehtaks seda
Mida teistele sa teed
See maailm tundub niigi liiga ebaõiglane
Jäid rongist maha
Auto pritsis sinu mantli täis
Ja terav valu sinustki sel hetkel läbi käis
Ma ei hakka sulle seda parem üldse seletama
Muidu peaksin kogu tõe ma justkui kokku valetama
Tuhat võõrast kurja hinge elab minu sees (kuid valitud head ja mitte ainult..kas tead..)
Ja ainus vabandus on see
Et olen lihtsalt (tehtud) mees
Ka Sa ei taha
Et Sulle tehtaks seda
Mida teistele Sa teed
See maailm tundub niigi liiga ebaõiglane
Jäid rongist maha
..
Ja terav valu minustki sel hetkel läbi käis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y10FrSCXDi4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y10FrSCXDi4
29 June 2016 00:34
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
See suhtelepingu programm mis mul koostamisel, ikka suts parem
: )
: )
28 June 2016 21:31
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Tuleks jah paluda, et siiani haiguse elushoiuga me teiste ja nende vaimude piinasi pikendanud
Kuid nüüd koos vabandusega, tuleks ikka asi korda ajada.
Kui kaua me sellist jõledust elus hoiame kuigi jõledus ise elu vastu pikalt laulnud ja vabastust sellest maast luninud, kuhu eksikombel me Laste kehadesse Nad oma vaimukombitsatega sattunud..tekitades piina ja valu Kõige Loojale
Kuid kergendame Jumala koorma, teeme Nad korda ja endid puhtaks peseme sellest veast, tehes kõik hapuks läinud heaks.
Kuid nüüd koos vabandusega, tuleks ikka asi korda ajada.
Kui kaua me sellist jõledust elus hoiame kuigi jõledus ise elu vastu pikalt laulnud ja vabastust sellest maast luninud, kuhu eksikombel me Laste kehadesse Nad oma vaimukombitsatega sattunud..tekitades piina ja valu Kõige Loojale
Kuid kergendame Jumala koorma, teeme Nad korda ja endid puhtaks peseme sellest veast, tehes kõik hapuks läinud heaks.
28 June 2016 21:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
am use this word rarely , when something is fked up
is exception
is exception
28 June 2016 21:12
Margus Meigo commented on Ben 'hey' Wass's post.
lets hope it is not Third eye ur blind in
28 June 2016 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
okey that was just fked up
28 June 2016 21:09
Margus Meigo commented on KayZar AukNah's post.
Did he get that info from Morpheus ?
28 June 2016 21:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tegelikult ei tulnud ka :p
28 June 2016 21:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nanaajaa..n nananananaa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J94DFyYvwQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J94DFyYvwQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J94DFyYvwQE
28 June 2016 20:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid Tule algus siis.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wou9Vz9DVBQ&feature=youtu.be&t=500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wou9Vz9DVBQ&feature=youtu.be&t=500
28 June 2016 19:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
..or as to keep political:
comment: "Karthik Navayan, Hyderabad, India,
This is good effort, you have excavated the reality of Gandhi, he was the real enemy of Indian untouchable communities as he opposed reserving constituencies for the untouchables, Still some people trying to keep him as father of this nation actually he is the father of political cheaters and corrupted officials Thanks for this book Karthik"
comment: "Karthik Navayan, Hyderabad, India,
This is good effort, you have excavated the reality of Gandhi, he was the real enemy of Indian untouchable communities as he opposed reserving constituencies for the untouchables, Still some people trying to keep him as father of this nation actually he is the father of political cheaters and corrupted officials Thanks for this book Karthik"
28 June 2016 18:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as comment say:
"Shanti Tanna, Menston West Yorkshire,
If my understanding is correct, Gandhi's sleeping next to naked young women was a part of his 'Experiments with Truth' experiment. I do not believe that at any stage Gandhi had a desire to have sex or make love to these young ladies. He merely wanted to prove to the world and to himself that he can control his libido and I also believe that he never had actual sex with any of these young women during his experiment. Personally I do not believe that any such experiments serves any useful purpose either for him or for any other person except for satisfying ones own ego that one can control one's libido. I think many people can and do control their libido if they wish to do so and are consicious of it. I believe Gandhi was somewhat naive in so many of his 'experiments with Truth'. I am sure many people and Jad Adams in particular, has misunderstood the purpose of Gandhi's experiment, perhaps unwittingly in all cases. I think they should be forgiven for that. "
"Shanti Tanna, Menston West Yorkshire,
If my understanding is correct, Gandhi's sleeping next to naked young women was a part of his 'Experiments with Truth' experiment. I do not believe that at any stage Gandhi had a desire to have sex or make love to these young ladies. He merely wanted to prove to the world and to himself that he can control his libido and I also believe that he never had actual sex with any of these young women during his experiment. Personally I do not believe that any such experiments serves any useful purpose either for him or for any other person except for satisfying ones own ego that one can control one's libido. I think many people can and do control their libido if they wish to do so and are consicious of it. I believe Gandhi was somewhat naive in so many of his 'experiments with Truth'. I am sure many people and Jad Adams in particular, has misunderstood the purpose of Gandhi's experiment, perhaps unwittingly in all cases. I think they should be forgiven for that. "
28 June 2016 18:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I just can not get these tests, of proving to "control one's libido"
How hard can it be to sleep naked between most sexual ones and not having sex with the dear ones? Only thing one needs to remember, is who they are from the God's eye and keep up most delightful friendly respect .. and that's pretty much all.
No special guru training needed for that, just respectful mind and heart.
Been there, done that, long time.
How hard can it be to sleep naked between most sexual ones and not having sex with the dear ones? Only thing one needs to remember, is who they are from the God's eye and keep up most delightful friendly respect .. and that's pretty much all.
No special guru training needed for that, just respectful mind and heart.
Been there, done that, long time.
28 June 2016 18:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Okey, nothing so controversial as headline implemented.. but as most read headlines only..
just sad, he was not able to learn from the Jews. or from some other natural people, how life between women and man should be
just sad, he was not able to learn from the Jews. or from some other natural people, how life between women and man should be
28 June 2016 18:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"..When Kasturba died in Gandhi's arms in 1944, following more than 60 years of married life, the old man was moved to even more extreme experiments of his form of chastity - which became a source of great concern to those who were looking to him for political guidance.
'I deliberately want to become a eunuch mentally,' he explained to them - as he started sharing his bed with his friends' wives.
At this point it seems that he might have resumed some of the more perverse sexual experiments he had tried with Kasturba, in which he deliberately put himself into increasingly arousing situations to prove mind over matter.
Whenever anyone criticised him, he would defend himself saying that to give up his habits now would be to admit that his whole life had been a failure.
As he reiterated again and again, there was no difficulty in an impotent man staying away from women - the trick was for one with powerful sexual urges to resist them.
To make things even more tempting - and his self-control therefore that much more of a triumph - he took a much younger woman to his bed, spurning the faithful Sushila who was utterly distraught to find herself banished from his side.
The new girl was Manu Gandhi, his great niece, who had been cared for by Kasturba when she lost her own mother.
Gandhi wrote to Manu, saying his ambition for her was that she should remain a virgin till the end of her life.
'We may both be killed by the Muslims at any time and must put our purity to the ultimate test so we know we should be offering the purest of sacrifices and so we should now both start sleeping naked.'
He was sleeping with her in the nude - and the rather more reluctant Abha (who insisted on keeping her clothes on) - till the end."
'I deliberately want to become a eunuch mentally,' he explained to them - as he started sharing his bed with his friends' wives.
At this point it seems that he might have resumed some of the more perverse sexual experiments he had tried with Kasturba, in which he deliberately put himself into increasingly arousing situations to prove mind over matter.
Whenever anyone criticised him, he would defend himself saying that to give up his habits now would be to admit that his whole life had been a failure.
As he reiterated again and again, there was no difficulty in an impotent man staying away from women - the trick was for one with powerful sexual urges to resist them.
To make things even more tempting - and his self-control therefore that much more of a triumph - he took a much younger woman to his bed, spurning the faithful Sushila who was utterly distraught to find herself banished from his side.
The new girl was Manu Gandhi, his great niece, who had been cared for by Kasturba when she lost her own mother.
Gandhi wrote to Manu, saying his ambition for her was that she should remain a virgin till the end of her life.
'We may both be killed by the Muslims at any time and must put our purity to the ultimate test so we know we should be offering the purest of sacrifices and so we should now both start sleeping naked.'
He was sleeping with her in the nude - and the rather more reluctant Abha (who insisted on keeping her clothes on) - till the end."
28 June 2016 18:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"..Disgusted by his innate lust, Gandhi would try to distance himself from the women - but he was soon sleeping next to them again - and, what's more, blaming his surrender on them. 'I could not bear the tears of Sushila,' he said.
In September 1938, to counter their criticism, he wrote a circular letter to all the girls explaining the innocent procedure that he implemented when he took a bath with Sushila.
'While she is bathing, I keep my eyes tightly shut,' he maintained. 'I do not know the manner of her bathing, whether she bathes naked or with her underwear on. I can tell from the sound that she uses soap. I have seen no part of her body that everyone here will not have seen.'
Incredibly, the long-suffering Kasturba seems to have taken all this in good part, though relations with his sons became more and more strained.
Gandhi had long had an indifference to his children because they were the product of his despised sex life - and when they, in turn, became sexual beings themselves, he was revulsed.
Understandably, they did not respond well - and his alcoholic eldest son went so far as to use brothels openly in order to humiliate his father. "
In September 1938, to counter their criticism, he wrote a circular letter to all the girls explaining the innocent procedure that he implemented when he took a bath with Sushila.
'While she is bathing, I keep my eyes tightly shut,' he maintained. 'I do not know the manner of her bathing, whether she bathes naked or with her underwear on. I can tell from the sound that she uses soap. I have seen no part of her body that everyone here will not have seen.'
Incredibly, the long-suffering Kasturba seems to have taken all this in good part, though relations with his sons became more and more strained.
Gandhi had long had an indifference to his children because they were the product of his despised sex life - and when they, in turn, became sexual beings themselves, he was revulsed.
Understandably, they did not respond well - and his alcoholic eldest son went so far as to use brothels openly in order to humiliate his father. "
28 June 2016 18:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"..Despite the diet of fruit and nuts that he believed reduced his sexual urges, he was habitually constipated and would spend hours in the bathroom, feeling no shame in encouraging them to come and visit him during his sessions on the commode.
Afterwards, they would massage him with mustard oil and lime juice while he lay naked before them.
By 1936, Gandhi was already so venerable that everyone called him Bapu - Father. By then it had become his habit to take walks leaning on two girls, usually a pair named Abha and Sushila, whom he referred to as his walking sticks.
His first question to them each morning was always: 'Have you had a good bowel movement this morning, sisters?'
The teenage Abha was married to his great-nephew. Gandhi admitted that it was very dangerous sleeping close to her without wanting sex - but also conceded that it was a 'very worthwhile experiment'.
As for Sushila, he had known her since she was six when she had sat on his lap and he had asked her mother to gift the girl to him.
After taking a medical degree, Sushila returned to the ashram - and became his personal physician. Gandhi often slept in the same bed as her, but Sushila admitted that 'there was nothing special about sleeping next to Bapu . . . I used to sleep with him just as I would with my mother'.
She elaborated: 'He might say: "My back aches, put some pressure on it." So I might put some pressure on it or lie down on his back and he might just go to sleep.' She confirmed that this was not part of the chastity experiment, but more of a natural cure.
Despite the way it looked to other people, none of this seemed like self-indulgence to Gandhi, who followed each of his obsessions with the same religious ardour: He never spoke on Mondays, which were designated silent days.
And he clung to his limited diet, too, even though it was taking a terrible toll on his physique and all his teeth were falling out. If he fell
ill, he pushed himself to fast more - and insisted that his children and wife do the same, even when they were so weak they seemed on the point of death. In many ways it's astonishing that they all survived. .."
Afterwards, they would massage him with mustard oil and lime juice while he lay naked before them.
By 1936, Gandhi was already so venerable that everyone called him Bapu - Father. By then it had become his habit to take walks leaning on two girls, usually a pair named Abha and Sushila, whom he referred to as his walking sticks.
His first question to them each morning was always: 'Have you had a good bowel movement this morning, sisters?'
The teenage Abha was married to his great-nephew. Gandhi admitted that it was very dangerous sleeping close to her without wanting sex - but also conceded that it was a 'very worthwhile experiment'.
As for Sushila, he had known her since she was six when she had sat on his lap and he had asked her mother to gift the girl to him.
After taking a medical degree, Sushila returned to the ashram - and became his personal physician. Gandhi often slept in the same bed as her, but Sushila admitted that 'there was nothing special about sleeping next to Bapu . . . I used to sleep with him just as I would with my mother'.
She elaborated: 'He might say: "My back aches, put some pressure on it." So I might put some pressure on it or lie down on his back and he might just go to sleep.' She confirmed that this was not part of the chastity experiment, but more of a natural cure.
Despite the way it looked to other people, none of this seemed like self-indulgence to Gandhi, who followed each of his obsessions with the same religious ardour: He never spoke on Mondays, which were designated silent days.
And he clung to his limited diet, too, even though it was taking a terrible toll on his physique and all his teeth were falling out. If he fell
ill, he pushed himself to fast more - and insisted that his children and wife do the same, even when they were so weak they seemed on the point of death. In many ways it's astonishing that they all survived. .."
28 June 2016 18:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"..When he finally returned to India in 1915, the rules at his new ashram were even more stringent. Gandhi no longer felt sex was permissible on any level - even for procreation.
His advice to husbands and wives was not to sleep in the same room - and, if they felt an urge, to take a cold bath.
But while he insisted on other people sticking to his Draconian rules, Gandhi didn't always observe them himself.
Despite his frail appearance he was an attractive man, according to one woman who lost her heart to him.
'I caught a glimpse of him in the midst of silks and brocades, frills and sparkling jewels. He was dressed in a coarse khaki (handspun) dhoti and looked like a small-time tailor who had wandered in by mistake . . . He became my father, my mother, my boyfriend, my girlfriend, my daughter, my son, my teacher, my guru.'
Women of all sorts flung themselves at him, and some became important to him. In middle life, he fell for Saraladevi Choudhurani, a Bengali nationalist activist, and his attraction to her was such that he even confessed that he was toying with breaking his own rules. "..
His advice to husbands and wives was not to sleep in the same room - and, if they felt an urge, to take a cold bath.
But while he insisted on other people sticking to his Draconian rules, Gandhi didn't always observe them himself.
Despite his frail appearance he was an attractive man, according to one woman who lost her heart to him.
'I caught a glimpse of him in the midst of silks and brocades, frills and sparkling jewels. He was dressed in a coarse khaki (handspun) dhoti and looked like a small-time tailor who had wandered in by mistake . . . He became my father, my mother, my boyfriend, my girlfriend, my daughter, my son, my teacher, my guru.'
Women of all sorts flung themselves at him, and some became important to him. In middle life, he fell for Saraladevi Choudhurani, a Bengali nationalist activist, and his attraction to her was such that he even confessed that he was toying with breaking his own rules. "..
28 June 2016 18:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Remotely related, maybe. Strange mixup story and in unpleasent personal details in mainstream stile but hey.. :
"Gandhi: Naked Ambition claims that Gandhi, a London trained lawyer-turned-guru, was a ruthless cult leader who enslaved his followers with such bizarre sexual demands that it became difficult for many people to take him seriously, even during his own lifetime.
The book's author, Jad Adams, even goes so far as to suggest that the Draconian practices instituted by this iconic figure in the ashrams he founded prompted the perverted 20th-century cults of Jim Jones in Jonestown, Guyana, and David Koresh in Waco, Texas - both of whom used their mesmeric sexual appeal to reduce their followers to almost slavish subjugation.
Though apparently frail and undernourished, like many ambitious men Gandhi was highly sexed - and wrote quite openly about the fact.
But it was the peculiar nature of the rigorous exercises he instigated to try to contain his huge appetites that many people considered so unacceptable.
Gandhi always said his obsession with sex started when he was married off at the age of 13 to a girl just one year older.
The son of a prime minister in the state of Porbandar, as a child Gandhi's extreme fastidiousness was the only indication there was anything unusual about him.
An indifferent pupil - small, frail and afraid of ghosts, snakes and the dark - he despised his father for giving in to his own carnal urges and became determined to control his own.
From the outset, he claimed that he never wanted to get married - he was taken out of school for a year to prepare for the event, and thought it a total waste of money.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1264952/A-new-book-reveals-Gandhi-tortured-young-women-worshipped-shared-bed.html
"Gandhi: Naked Ambition claims that Gandhi, a London trained lawyer-turned-guru, was a ruthless cult leader who enslaved his followers with such bizarre sexual demands that it became difficult for many people to take him seriously, even during his own lifetime.
The book's author, Jad Adams, even goes so far as to suggest that the Draconian practices instituted by this iconic figure in the ashrams he founded prompted the perverted 20th-century cults of Jim Jones in Jonestown, Guyana, and David Koresh in Waco, Texas - both of whom used their mesmeric sexual appeal to reduce their followers to almost slavish subjugation.
Though apparently frail and undernourished, like many ambitious men Gandhi was highly sexed - and wrote quite openly about the fact.
But it was the peculiar nature of the rigorous exercises he instigated to try to contain his huge appetites that many people considered so unacceptable.
Gandhi always said his obsession with sex started when he was married off at the age of 13 to a girl just one year older.
The son of a prime minister in the state of Porbandar, as a child Gandhi's extreme fastidiousness was the only indication there was anything unusual about him.
An indifferent pupil - small, frail and afraid of ghosts, snakes and the dark - he despised his father for giving in to his own carnal urges and became determined to control his own.
From the outset, he claimed that he never wanted to get married - he was taken out of school for a year to prepare for the event, and thought it a total waste of money.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1264952/A-new-book-reveals-Gandhi-tortured-young-women-worshipped-shared-bed.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1264952/A-new-book-reveals-Gandhi-tortured-young-women-worshipped-shared-bed.html
28 June 2016 18:36
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's photo.
Make sure to listen founding fathers talks about husbands and marriage, kids and life: https://www.youtube.com/user/11213org
He's direct grandfather far away was an Aaron.
All he says is worth to know,
He's direct grandfather far away was an Aaron.
All he says is worth to know,
https://www.youtube.com/user/11213org
28 June 2016 18:19
Margus Meigo replied to Ka Re Na's comment.
Greetings Amazing Kaz You,
28 June 2016 18:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aah bastards ask money for full report.. just to tell you, if you not a full blown sick pervert,that You not adventures enough... and this should be psychology ?
Reminds me the Psyco-The-Rapist joke, about who makes these tests..
Still OK with the results but.. is scary to think what they say is the normal "great " one before telling person "stop what you do, you sick f" as they should, if they care about human species, really
Reminds me the Psyco-The-Rapist joke, about who makes these tests..
Still OK with the results but.. is scary to think what they say is the normal "great " one before telling person "stop what you do, you sick f" as they should, if they care about human species, really
28 June 2016 18:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" What's your sex personality? Are you a sexual daredevil or a little more subdued? Do you let yourself go or hold back? What are your notions of sexual normalcy and eccentricity? Are you sexually creative? Find out who you really are between the sheets with this sex personality test.
Examine the following statements and indicate how well they describe you. In order to obtain the most accurate results, please answer as truthfully as possible.
After finishing the test, you will receive a Snapshot Report with an introduction, a graph and a personalized interpretation for one of your test scores. You will then have the option to purchase the full results. "
http://psychologytoday.tests.psychtests.com/take_test.php?idRegTest=1613
Examine the following statements and indicate how well they describe you. In order to obtain the most accurate results, please answer as truthfully as possible.
After finishing the test, you will receive a Snapshot Report with an introduction, a graph and a personalized interpretation for one of your test scores. You will then have the option to purchase the full results. "
http://psychologytoday.tests.psychtests.com/take_test.php?idRegTest=1613
http://psychologytoday.tests.psychtests.com/take_test.php?idRegTest=1613
28 June 2016 17:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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28 June 2016 17:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Even Thought, Turkish would be also interesting among other regions (but in large places, the various arias and beliefs should be outlined...)
28 June 2016 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Rabbi would choke on it:
"Philosopher Mary Warnock has said that "it seems to me to be a fundamental moral principle that we ought to love and cherish our children as beings separate from ourselves and with their own distinct characteristics"
REALLY... how will that end up then.. at large..
http://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/2003/05/msoc1-0305.html
"Philosopher Mary Warnock has said that "it seems to me to be a fundamental moral principle that we ought to love and cherish our children as beings separate from ourselves and with their own distinct characteristics"
REALLY... how will that end up then.. at large..
http://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/2003/05/msoc1-0305.html
http://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/2003/05/msoc1-0305.html
28 June 2016 17:03
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
sad it is..
28 June 2016 16:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
now even royals wear tie and even a Jews i have seen.. where this world get us..
and ironic thing is .. the proper Liberal masters them self, do not carry tie, it is only for a show so controlling puppets would think it is a norm.. and would identify them self as controllable by it..
and ironic thing is .. the proper Liberal masters them self, do not carry tie, it is only for a show so controlling puppets would think it is a norm.. and would identify them self as controllable by it..
28 June 2016 16:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Most public liberal opponents, are innovations of Liberals them self, as long they still wear a tie and obey under same rules of game they play
28 June 2016 16:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
these ones ya know...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
28 June 2016 16:55
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
We out now! : )
Only thing You need to do now, is to get rid of these Liberals who run Your kingdom and the ones who pretend not to be fascist liberal like Cameron and a like
and restore proper Kingdom, ( that has not been there .. thousands of years... but only Queen can help with that, the one who is last one still holding the hypothetical image alive at least.. with some higher values.. what communist have not jet managed to destroy .. as they planned with a European Union - EU pentagram superstate (Soviet Union Vol 2)
Tom ya got Royal blood in your body as well, i know... i have seen it
https://www.facebook.com/212667045793913/videos/212815595779058/
but liberals lizards are clever.. they invented the Left vs. Right politics.. so they can hold control of all sides, all the time, as long we protect the illusion of Demon-Crzy system..
Only thing You need to do now, is to get rid of these Liberals who run Your kingdom and the ones who pretend not to be fascist liberal like Cameron and a like
and restore proper Kingdom, ( that has not been there .. thousands of years... but only Queen can help with that, the one who is last one still holding the hypothetical image alive at least.. with some higher values.. what communist have not jet managed to destroy .. as they planned with a European Union - EU pentagram superstate (Soviet Union Vol 2)
Tom ya got Royal blood in your body as well, i know... i have seen it
https://www.facebook.com/212667045793913/videos/212815595779058/
but liberals lizards are clever.. they invented the Left vs. Right politics.. so they can hold control of all sides, all the time, as long we protect the illusion of Demon-Crzy system..
28 June 2016 16:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
(just for a record, they are comedy team)28 June 2016 15:47
Margus Meigo commented on David Cowles's post.
And under Christian, we mean Judaism ?
( https://www.youtube.com/user/11213org )
( https://www.youtube.com/user/11213org )
https://www.youtube.com/user/11213org
28 June 2016 14:20
Margus Meigo commented on Roosi Raudsepp's post.
Millega Sa tegeled :D
28 June 2016 14:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
anarhiline või austav
27 June 2016 01:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga selles oma kodus siis, kummad neegrid seal siis sulle meeldivad ,vasta küsimus ära juba, et kumb liik parem on ja kumb käitumis norm su arusat normaalsem on
Populistlik või alluv
Populistlik või alluv
27 June 2016 01:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mina küll neid ei austa kes oma kultuuris elavad, peab ikka korralik neeger ja normalane nagu meie siin olema, austuste poolest, et austust saad,a see ku inad seal kohalike normaalseid vägistavad ja tapavad, ja musta maagia läbi astraal rändavad siia, et me naisi vägistada vaimselt, see mulle kyll toetust ei paku
27 June 2016 01:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Heaküll, Sa siis see peremees,
Kuid kumbasi neegreid rohkem soodustad ja kiidad ja toetad, ning kelle neegri käitumise järgi soovid rohkem inimesi käituma,
Kuid kumbasi neegreid rohkem soodustad ja kiidad ja toetad, ning kelle neegri käitumise järgi soovid rohkem inimesi käituma,
27 June 2016 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
one of the weak ones have pentagram also on their clothing,,, what you want from these weak aas punks..
unless they will refind again
unless they will refind again
27 June 2016 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on Metal Injection's link.
"Find science" hahaha
You mean, aliens put probe in to their ass or head and they lost basic realization of the world, as most weak ass punks
You mean, aliens put probe in to their ass or head and they lost basic realization of the world, as most weak ass punks
27 June 2016 00:58
Margus Meigo commented on Ladies of Metal's photo.
this g wilirll be rally unhapy
27 June 2016 00:57
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Muidugi keegi võtab joomarluse ja liiderlikuse vastu sõna,hea seegi... sest ekslikult ka meil eestis parmustumist ja ajurakkude ning geenide solkimist juuatäispeaga nussimise läbi peetakse rahvuslikuks trendiks mida riiklikult heas toonis promoda vaja on,
eks vaja ka siia moslemed tuua,et korra keegi paika paneks, sesttundub, et kohalikel usumeestel selgroog niipehme ja muudest liidritest kellel lipsuga suu kinni seotud või ylikooliga viisnurga ajud pehmeks taotud ei hakka üldse rääkimagi
eks vaja ka siia moslemed tuua,et korra keegi paika paneks, sesttundub, et kohalikel usumeestel selgroog niipehme ja muudest liidritest kellel lipsuga suu kinni seotud või ylikooliga viisnurga ajud pehmeks taotud ei hakka üldse rääkimagi
26 June 2016 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
NU neile peaks küll blondid ja rinnad meeldima ju
26 June 2016 23:12
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Või vähemalt selleks planeerimine,
kuid kuna tundus, et samadel põhimõtetel ja ei suurt uut.. siis mis ikka-.
kuid kuna tundus, et samadel põhimõtetel ja ei suurt uut.. siis mis ikka-.
26 June 2016 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Peaksin ka varsti meediat järgima, pole mitu kuud juba kuulnud ja vaadanud mis õigupoolest toimunud on ja toimub.. valimised olid viimati kui kuulsin
26 June 2016 23:08
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Ja kumb siis mõistlikum neeger on ja kummaga ennast sarnastaksid ?
Kas selle arrogantse põlluneegriga, keda ei saanud majaalla usaldada, või sellega kes oma juured kaotanud ja ei julgenud majaalt lahkuda?
Kas selle arrogantse põlluneegriga, keda ei saanud majaalla usaldada, või sellega kes oma juured kaotanud ja ei julgenud majaalt lahkuda?
26 June 2016 23:07
Margus Meigo commented on Sofia Zdobnõh's photo.
Peaasi, et nüüd Shamaanide ja Taimetarkustega (ning Matriarhaatia aluspindade, Juudi lustõdedega) ennast kurssi viia, siis saab Dr. tiitlist ka tõsiselt kasu, mitte nagu suur armee muid arste kes küll targad, aga elualustõed, enda suhted ja võime endal lubada maailmas reaalselt muuta on limiteeritud lipsumeeste järgi
Õnnitlused!
Õnnitlused!
26 June 2016 23:04
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
But Hillary is for America and a World Economic Forum Let's do it World
25 June 2016 08:30
Margus Meigo commented on Erlend Olen's post.
owerload, liiga hull :D:D:D
25 June 2016 08:08
Margus Meigo commented on Claire Khaw's post.
Group: Patriarchy v Matriarchy
We do know, that feminism is just a small stepsister of Matriarchy right25 June 2016 07:47
Margus Meigo commented on Organization Diplomatic Security Mission and International Relations E A F's photo.
Promising,
But we have to start to cutting down the pentagrams everywhere
But we have to start to cutting down the pentagrams everywhere
25 June 2016 05:49
Margus Meigo replied to Jüri Toomel's comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
wau!25 June 2016 05:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
murelikud lapsevanemad ise selle redeli sinna panna oleks võinud25 June 2016 05:47
Margus Meigo commented on Jaakko Hallas's post.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Maanteel iga laps võib vabalt autoalla jääda, ometigi autosi keegi ära keelama ei hakka või majade rõdusi
ja paljud lapsed üksi ilma mobiilita seal ikka kondaks.. lahendus oleks olnud ju, et pannud lihtsalt rippredel sinna koos hoiatava sildiga, et ära uisapäisa ringi torma sääl eramaal.., olekski mure lahendatud olnud ju..25 June 2016 05:46
Margus Meigo commented on Jaakko Hallas's post.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Kena karu sinna pannud.. et kui ta 30ndatel sõjaväe sanatoorium oli, et kas nende poolt või mereväebaasi või Majaki poolt? Mingi kindlam tähendus ka asjal?
..kuid jah.. laste turvalisuse mõttes..25 June 2016 05:42
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Tõnismäe's post.
Nagu öeldakse.. armasta oma naabrit..
25 June 2016 05:29
Margus Meigo commented on Zandra Arguelles's post.
Do You have kids jet ?
25 June 2016 05:13
Margus Meigo commented on Zandra Arguelles's post.
(K)
25 June 2016 05:12
Margus Meigo commented on Marco Antonio's photo.
You know.. there have to be reason to use our Õ : ))
25 June 2016 04:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Raagitakse, et see mees pidi olema üks suurimad hitleri uuriaid: http://www.veganviews.org.uk/124-davidirving-interview.pdf
24 June 2016 23:20
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Müstiku Päevik
Seda naised rääkinud jah, et lausa seksuaal suhtes nad olnud.. et käinud ja külastanud see valgusingel või kes ta on.. ja siis murtud ja pettunud südame maha jätnud..sest naine,kelle viid sellele tasemele, saab ainult siis olla rahus ja iglustundes, kui mees ainult talle lõpuks kuuletub ja andub, ükskõik kui palju haid suhteid paraleelselt kegi suudab toimetada ja naisi taevaäärel hoida, saab jeesus ainult siis lopuks rahu kui ta ühe naise valib ja allub.. senikaua aga ei ole suurt rahu loota, kui litsitamine ja võrgutamine Jumala paremal käel endiselt veel endasilmis lubatud on.
Kõik naised kellel olnud suhe, peaksid hakkama seda ülesse tunnistama ja kirjeldama ilmalikule maailmale.. need numbrid ikka on vast väga suured... või on mul olnud õnn neid just kohata mingil pohjusel...
lausa naisi, kes on ülikorge arengut suutnud siin kehalises keskkonnas säilitada, ja ka nemad, on surmtõsiselt rääkinud... ja välja tulnud, et selles ka nende usu südamiku pettuse kese on... sest Neiltunne, et nad personaalselt teavad nüüüd, et kes selle usu taga tegelikult on... mitte PR ..
Muidugi võibv olla ja väga hooolikalt disainitud vaimne pettus mida nende naistega korraldatakse... kuid jah, nad kuidagi nii kindlat ja loomulikud olidselles asjas...24 June 2016 15:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid vähemalt kolm inimest juba tuleb, ihii : )
23 June 2016 18:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Tervislik toitumine
Ehitan veel.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KCmhPM2rwg&index=48&list=PLsXelNZnKcxk8DyMC1FDFOaRk2g9JEo1Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KCmhPM2rwg&index=48&list=PLsXelNZnKcxk8DyMC1FDFOaRk2g9JEo1M
23 June 2016 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Jah, see on vegan!
Ehitan veel.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KCmhPM2rwg&index=48&list=PLsXelNZnKcxk8DyMC1FDFOaRk2g9JEo1Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KCmhPM2rwg&index=48&list=PLsXelNZnKcxk8DyMC1FDFOaRk2g9JEo1M
23 June 2016 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Eesti veganid
Ehitan veel.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KCmhPM2rwg&index=48&list=PLsXelNZnKcxk8DyMC1FDFOaRk2g9JEo1Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KCmhPM2rwg&index=48&list=PLsXelNZnKcxk8DyMC1FDFOaRk2g9JEo1M
23 June 2016 18:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Taimetoidu sõbrad
Ehitan veel.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KCmhPM2rwg&index=48&list=PLsXelNZnKcxk8DyMC1FDFOaRk2g9JEo1Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KCmhPM2rwg&index=48&list=PLsXelNZnKcxk8DyMC1FDFOaRk2g9JEo1M
23 June 2016 18:20
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's photo.
Kas see heas mõttes mõeldud, või nagu, et vanemad lastega eri suunda lähevad uhkuses?
22 June 2016 10:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja usud siis Lennard Meri teooriat Jaanipäeva, Ristja Johannes päeva osas?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_John%27s_Day_(Estonia)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_John%27s_Day_(Estonia)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_John%27s_Day_(Estonia)
22 June 2016 10:21
Margus Meigo commented on Vesilemb Millimallikas's post.
Group: Keri saar
See tundub päris meeldiv elukogemus olema..22 June 2016 10:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi arvata võib, et ma eriti populaarseks enamustes kogudustes nende tõdemustega veel ei saa..
(ja milleks seda vaja? Eks ikka selleks, et neid aidata kes kogudusesja nendega rohkem teisi.. aidata)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGC5cjVPynk
(ja milleks seda vaja? Eks ikka selleks, et neid aidata kes kogudusesja nendega rohkem teisi.. aidata)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGC5cjVPynk
22 June 2016 10:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See on üks teeema, mille oma eluajal peaks korda saama,
lisaks on veel psühiaatria, kooliharidus (see ka greeka-Rooma põhine, ehk heebria, Matriarhaatlikuse vastane) ning meedia. Viimane pool on veel kõige lihtsam, sest seda saab nõutluste põhjal ümber liigutada ja tekitada.
Kahte teist aga otseselt vaimumaailma ja sõjaväega kaitstakse, ja pidage meeles, et vaimne ei tähenda head ega ilusat, sellel pole heaga miskit pistmist.
Lollus on maine, kurjus on spirituaalne (suures plaanis), sest spirtuaalsus on nagu oskus, lisa nägemine või keel, seda saab kasutada ju nii üheks kui teiseks... kuigi jah, valesti kaustades ei saa igale poole enam ligi ja lõpuks lõpp võib tulla kindlalt... kui just kõikide teede pikkus samapikk ole ajas, nagu meil luule laulis...
See rabbi ka mingi olulise Naiste org. üks asutaja liige
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpqRDudzKCA
lisaks on veel psühiaatria, kooliharidus (see ka greeka-Rooma põhine, ehk heebria, Matriarhaatlikuse vastane) ning meedia. Viimane pool on veel kõige lihtsam, sest seda saab nõutluste põhjal ümber liigutada ja tekitada.
Kahte teist aga otseselt vaimumaailma ja sõjaväega kaitstakse, ja pidage meeles, et vaimne ei tähenda head ega ilusat, sellel pole heaga miskit pistmist.
Lollus on maine, kurjus on spirituaalne (suures plaanis), sest spirtuaalsus on nagu oskus, lisa nägemine või keel, seda saab kasutada ju nii üheks kui teiseks... kuigi jah, valesti kaustades ei saa igale poole enam ligi ja lõpuks lõpp võib tulla kindlalt... kui just kõikide teede pikkus samapikk ole ajas, nagu meil luule laulis...
See rabbi ka mingi olulise Naiste org. üks asutaja liige
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpqRDudzKCA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpqRDudzKCA
22 June 2016 10:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja http://biblehub.com/daniel/1-12.htm (siin peavoolu kommentarid on piiblikohtade osas eri preestritelt iga peatüki juures, ning seotud rist viited (ehk see kuidas tegelikult lugema peaks, et vaatad mis lause kust võetud on, võ ion ta ainulaadne, inimese enda sõna või tegu, või kellegi varasema või hilisema põhjal, piibel ei piiritle ennast ajaga, ja saab liikuda ajas nii ette kui taha... ehk mingi asi tehti enne sest hiljem oli plaanis teha seda ja teist..))
http://biblehub.com/daniel/1-12.htm
22 June 2016 10:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui keegi edasi soovib uurida, siis kaks parimat lehte selleks on:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel%201&version=GNT;NIV;KJV;CJB;OJB (sest saad kõrvuti eri versioone näha ja märkeid teha oma kontos ja palju muud..)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel%201&version=GNT;NIV;KJV;CJB;OJB (sest saad kõrvuti eri versioone näha ja märkeid teha oma kontos ja palju muud..)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel+1&version=GNT%3BNIV%3BKJV%3BCJB%3BOJB
22 June 2016 10:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(srry, pean suts usu propakandat ka tegema.. sest kui selle organisatsiooni kaudu saada inimesi tervislikult sööma ja mõistust korda... ja veel paar suur asutust sellist... Mul muidugi usuga oma sügav side ka kuid sellest mõni teine kord, et veel natukenegi tavapärast normaalsust keskpärases normis säilitada.. )
Ei osata Juudi või vana Eestlalsliku tarkuse läbi lugeda paraleele Piiblist ja neid läbi üksteise vaadata, nagu läbi prilliklaaside... nagu näiteks, kui Nazariidid on pühamad.. ja nad isegi ei tohi rosinaid süüa.. siis ammugi eisaa ju veinijoomine kirikutes hea olla, ega nõutud.. või ütleme, isegi kui on hea, mingi ime läbi, siis kindlasti ei saa olla nõutud ju, kui eriti jumalik inimene tuleb kirikukotta..
Loomulikult on ka neid, kes liiga fanaatiliselt, ilma õigete põhjusteta suruvad kesist toitu inimestele peale, ja eks nende kohta ka eraldi hoiatus on pühakirjas olemas juba ajast ette..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_vegetarianism
Ei osata Juudi või vana Eestlalsliku tarkuse läbi lugeda paraleele Piiblist ja neid läbi üksteise vaadata, nagu läbi prilliklaaside... nagu näiteks, kui Nazariidid on pühamad.. ja nad isegi ei tohi rosinaid süüa.. siis ammugi eisaa ju veinijoomine kirikutes hea olla, ega nõutud.. või ütleme, isegi kui on hea, mingi ime läbi, siis kindlasti ei saa olla nõutud ju, kui eriti jumalik inimene tuleb kirikukotta..
Loomulikult on ka neid, kes liiga fanaatiliselt, ilma õigete põhjusteta suruvad kesist toitu inimestele peale, ja eks nende kohta ka eraldi hoiatus on pühakirjas olemas juba ajast ette..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_vegetarianism
22 June 2016 09:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja isegi salmid kus ütlevad, kosutades Roomlasi, et Taimetoidulised on nõdrad, siis salmi lopus kiidavad, et see on ikkagi kasulikum.. https://www.openbible.info/topics/vegetarianism
https://www.openbible.info/topics/vegetarianism
22 June 2016 09:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ahjaa, muide üks asi veel: " I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food " (ja kõik kes lihasööjad olid, on piiblis üles loetud.. ja nad tegid ka kõik patte.. va. Taimetoitlased, üks neist vist oli siis Maarja mees ja teine see kes eraldi nõudis kuningalt taimetoidu testi ... mitte,et ma nüüd fanaatik oleks, ju söön rituaalselt kala veel Neljapäeval Õigeusu järgi mõned korrad veel kuid.. )
http://www.thenazareneway.com/biblical_%20vegetarianism_denis_giron.htm
http://www.essene.com/Bible/BiblicalBasisOfVeganism.html
http://www.thenazareneway.com/biblical_%20vegetarianism_denis_giron.htm
http://www.essene.com/Bible/BiblicalBasisOfVeganism.html
http://www.thenazareneway.com/biblical_%20vegetarianism_denis_giron.htm
22 June 2016 09:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nii head sõnad, võtab pisara silma, jälle
22 June 2016 08:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
@[undefined:Luke Gray] but they have about 3 good tracks or so.. but at least they are proper good
Here is also some good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUcuJcD1pMo&list=RD3FLkJc-oOhg&index=4
Here is also some good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUcuJcD1pMo&list=RD3FLkJc-oOhg&index=4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUcuJcD1pMo&list=RD3FLkJc-oOhg&index=4
22 June 2016 07:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Tervislik toitumine
Saatke oma headele tuttavate edasi sedasi : )
https://www.facebook.com/events/1040180259351493Place: Kadaka Küla, Kassi, Kadaka Tee, Tallinn
From 23 June 2016 13:00 to 24 June 2016 13:00
Ole hea LOE lõpuni enne liitumist!
Korralik Jaanituli koos plaanitava hea algupärase toidu ja selgemeelsete soovidega. Eramaal.
Muidugi, see on soov. ma alles praegu teen Eventi, seega mine tea kui vähe meid kohale jõuab...
Sügavameelne ja rahulik kuid suhete ja vaikuse küllane on see ööpäev meil plaanitud, ei tümmile.
Kui muud ei saa, siis tuld ikka saab!
oh, oluline, Kas soovid tulla aitama, mul seda tõeks teha?
Mul siin telliskivisi, saad grilli kohta endale ehitada jms kui tuled varakult.
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Üritus on Tasuta, kuid kuna ma oma talvepuud lõkkesse viin ja ise rahaga ei tegele veel (vaata post. kom.) siis ärge häbenege kui saate oma jõukuse järgi ise mõelda kuidas toeks olla, vast saan isegi talvepuud osaliselt asemele osta endale, ongi vähem saagimist! (poolnali) :)
Lisaks, siis saaksin omakorda lauda katta neile kellel pole ettevalmistust kuid näevad tuld ja...
...ja saaksime ka neile promoda vegan šašlõki imelisust ja inimeselisust.
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** Ära seda ülemist osa isiklikult võta, päriselt sobib ka ilma külakostita tulla ! **
Üritus muidugi mõeldud kõigile leebetele, kuid ikkagi, proovime hoida, end taimsed, kui EELKÕIGE kained. Igasugused psühhedeelsed ained on lubatud, kuna need on ennast tõestanud kasuliku Looduse osana (eriti "Sillicon Walleys, CNN" viimaste uudiste kohaselt..).
Kuid ole hea, anna ette teada mulle kui tõsiselt loodusega kontakti astuda plaanid, siis tean kaitsta.. Kanepit võite mulle ka Alati tuua, aitab mu elutöös ka edasijagamiseks.
Loe lähemalt Jaani Korraldajast veel kommentaarides!
(loe minu iga postituse kommentaarid lõpuni, tutvumaks, siis vähem tühje küsimusi ja rohkem täis küsimusi.. et kuhu ja miks tuled.)
Muidugi ma ei mõelnud oma seina kommentaare, see juba muu raskem teema mõistmiseks.. endalgi mõnes ajas.
Jaanlased meil enamuses koosnevad taimetoidu kasulikusest arusaavatest Usu ja hinge(dega) inimestest. Maaomanik tuleb ise ka meiega hängima, ta hästi chill, käisime koos mitu Aafrika maad läbi, kuid see juba muu seiklus millest hiljem...
Kodust jalutuskäigu ligidusel on Säästukas ja Maximarket,
Suur tasuta autoparkla on olemas, potte on mul ka suts.. kuid kui oma nõud kaasa võtad siis ole hea märgi nad ära kleepsuga, siis pole muret kui teistega sassi läheb.
Kui vaja saad kotte mul majas lukutaga hoida, kui võimalik võta telk ja magamiskott kaasa!
Elektri osas pole otsustanud veel, et kas suvatsen pikenduskaabli sebida..
Vett soovitan ka kaasa võtta, kuna me enamasti vihmaveega toimetame siin ainult ja ka käimla on looduses labidaga väike nurgake meil tehtud. Kannu kõrts on aga hästi ligidal, seega saab sinna jalutada kui tarvis.
Ongi vast oluliseim mainitud.
Ahjaa, sääsetõrjet võtke ka kaasa ja miskit kilekotti istumise alla igaks-juhuks. Parmupilli võite ka kaasa võtta
Nagu Pühade kuupäevad, ka ühistransport mis meieni tuleb on 24a (Kassi) ja 23 (Kadaka), ... ja Lasnamäelt buss 13.
GPSil aadress kadaka 88,
Kuid ole hea, SMSige enne kui tulete (kui ma ei vasta, tulge ikka!).
522 90 41, Margus (margus.meigo@neti.ee).
22 June 2016 06:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Jah, see on vegan!
Saatke oma headele tuttavate edasi sedasi : )
https://www.facebook.com/events/104018025935149322 June 2016 06:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Eesti veganid
Saatke oma headele tuttavate edasi sedasi : )
https://www.facebook.com/events/104018025935149322 June 2016 06:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Saatke oma headele tuttavate edasi sedasi : )
https://www.facebook.com/events/1040180259351493
https://www.facebook.com/events/1040180259351493
22 June 2016 06:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Või siis Kaali järve tekke loole.. mis iganes, Sinule meelepärasem on, uskumiseks või teadmistes.
22 June 2016 05:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See oli väga tõsine masoonide pubi kunagi... ja eks need squat projektid UKs ole ka, pool vaimsed ja poliitilised salaprojektid.. kuid sellest juba mõnel teisel korral, nüüd Püha Ristja Johannes Jaani Lainele!
22 June 2016 05:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Suures plaanis, ma tegelikut kaudselt sõbra nõul ja jõul, siiani veel taolises elustiilis kaudselt: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580 (kui ma inglismaal olin Musta Pantri kunagiste liidrite ja muude müstiliste anarhistidega...
proovisin lisaks muule veenda neid piiblit ja kuningannat austama ja õigesti kanepit kasutama. Mõlemad ideed olid ärritavad neile, sest arvasid nad, et neil juba selge, kuidas on hästi )
proovisin lisaks muule veenda neid piiblit ja kuningannat austama ja õigesti kanepit kasutama. Mõlemad ideed olid ärritavad neile, sest arvasid nad, et neil juba selge, kuidas on hästi )
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580
22 June 2016 05:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui aus olla, ega ma ju veel ei tea, kas keegi kes tulla saab, selle sõnumi kätte saab... oli plaanis korraldada, aga nii see aeg läks!
Ja ega ma ise veel lauda katta ei saa ( http://parnu.postimees.ee/3432897/margus-meigo-kodutu-maailmaparandusminister ) kuid hapuoblikad, nõgesed ja tuli koos vihmaveega on minupoolt! :))
Ja ega ma ise veel lauda katta ei saa ( http://parnu.postimees.ee/3432897/margus-meigo-kodutu-maailmaparandusminister ) kuid hapuoblikad, nõgesed ja tuli koos vihmaveega on minupoolt! :))
http://parnu.postimees.ee/3432897/margus-meigo-kodutu-maailmaparandusminister
22 June 2016 05:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vol 1
Toimetamist veel on palju!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-lzgTuFPZc
Toimetamist veel on palju!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-lzgTuFPZc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-lzgTuFPZc
22 June 2016 05:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The actual event: https://www.facebook.com/events/1040180259351493/
Päris ürituse link on see .. siinsee on arvuti süsteemide testimiseks.. ja muuks asjaks.. ikka teen mitu asja korraga kui juba teen..
Päris ürituse link on see .. siinsee on arvuti süsteemide testimiseks.. ja muuks asjaks.. ikka teen mitu asja korraga kui juba teen..
Place: Kadaka Küla, Kassi, Kadaka Tee, Tallinn
From 23 June 2016 13:00 to 24 June 2016 13:00
Ole hea LOE lõpuni enne liitumist!
Korralik Jaanituli koos plaanitava hea algupärase toidu ja selgemeelsete soovidega. Eramaal.
Muidugi, see on soov. ma alles praegu teen Eventi, seega mine tea kui vähe meid kohale jõuab...
Sügavameelne ja rahulik kuid suhete ja vaikuse küllane on see ööpäev meil plaanitud, ei tümmile.
Kui muud ei saa, siis tuld ikka saab!
oh, oluline, Kas soovid tulla aitama, mul seda tõeks teha?
Mul siin telliskivisi, saad grilli kohta endale ehitada jms kui tuled varakult.
______________________________________
Üritus on Tasuta, kuid kuna ma oma talvepuud lõkkesse viin ja ise rahaga ei tegele veel (vaata post. kom.) siis ärge häbenege kui saate oma jõukuse järgi ise mõelda kuidas toeks olla, vast saan isegi talvepuud osaliselt asemele osta endale, ongi vähem saagimist! (poolnali) :)
Lisaks, siis saaksin omakorda lauda katta neile kellel pole ettevalmistust kuid näevad tuld ja...
...ja saaksime ka neile promoda vegan šašlõki imelisust ja inimeselisust.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
** Ära seda ülemist osa isiklikult võta, päriselt sobib ka ilma külakostita tulla ! **
Üritus muidugi mõeldud kõigile leebetele, kuid ikkagi, proovime hoida, end taimsed, kui EELKÕIGE kained. Igasugused psühhedeelsed ained on lubatud, kuna need on ennast tõestanud kasuliku Looduse osana (eriti "Sillicon Walleys, CNN" viimaste uudiste kohaselt..).
Kuid ole hea, anna ette teada mulle kui tõsiselt loodusega kontakti astuda plaanid, siis tean kaitsta.. Kanepit võite mulle ka Alati tuua, aitab mu elutöös ka edasijagamiseks.
Loe lähemalt Jaani Korraldajast veel kommentaarides!
(loe minu iga postituse kommentaarid lõpuni, tutvumaks, siis vähem tühje küsimusi ja rohkem täis küsimusi.. et kuhu ja miks tuled.)
Muidugi ma ei mõelnud oma seina kommentaare, see juba muu raskem teema mõistmiseks.. endalgi mõnes ajas.
Jaanlased meil enamuses koosnevad taimetoidu kasulikusest arusaavatest Usu ja hinge(dega) inimestest. Maaomanik tuleb ise ka meiega hängima, ta hästi chill, käisime koos mitu Aafrika maad läbi, kuid see juba muu seiklus millest hiljem...
Kodust jalutuskäigu ligidusel on Säästukas ja Maximarket,
Suur tasuta autoparkla on olemas, potte on mul ka suts.. kuid kui oma nõud kaasa võtad siis ole hea märgi nad ära kleepsuga, siis pole muret kui teistega sassi läheb.
Kui vaja saad kotte mul majas lukutaga hoida, kui võimalik võta telk ja magamiskott kaasa!
Elektri osas pole otsustanud veel, et kas suvatsen pikenduskaabli sebida..
Vett soovitan ka kaasa võtta, kuna me enamasti vihmaveega toimetame siin ainult ja ka käimla on looduses labidaga väike nurgake meil tehtud. Kannu kõrts on aga hästi ligidal, seega saab sinna jalutada kui tarvis.
Ongi vast oluliseim mainitud.
Ahjaa, sääsetõrjet võtke ka kaasa ja miskit kilekotti istumise alla igaks-juhuks. Parmupilli võite ka kaasa võtta
Nagu Pühade kuupäevad, ka ühistransport mis meieni tuleb on 24a (Kassi) ja 23 (Kadaka), ... ja Lasnamäelt buss 13.
GPSil aadress kadaka 88,
Kuid ole hea, SMSige enne kui tulete (kui ma ei vasta, tulge ikka!).
522 90 41, Margus (margus.meigo@neti.ee).
22 June 2016 05:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/roheline/
Roheline (Olen Sinine, hoian, et Lillad Punastega maailma Mustaks ei muuda)
22 June 2016 05:01
Margus Meigo replied to Jim Williamson's comment.
Yes, of-course by the face, it is the mirror of what the people has done and will do.
Pick any pick of mine You like, maybe they do not have some jet..
FBI knows their stuff, often .. and they even not directly doing it spiritually.. knowingly.
http://ebookee.org/What-Every-BODY-is-Saying-An-Ex-FBI-Agent-s-Guide-to-Speed-Reading-People_243807.html
Pick any pick of mine You like, maybe they do not have some jet..
FBI knows their stuff, often .. and they even not directly doing it spiritually.. knowingly.
http://ebookee.org/What-Every-BODY-is-Saying-An-Ex-FBI-Agent-s-Guide-to-Speed-Reading-People_243807.html
http://ebookee.org/What-Every-BODY-is-Saying-An-Ex-FBI-Agent-s-Guide-to-Speed-Reading-People_243807.html
22 June 2016 04:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Grupp:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/roheline/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1120738301376762/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/roheline/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1120738301376762/
22 June 2016 04:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vaat kus laul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C306UZLwT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C306UZLwT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C306UZLwT4
22 June 2016 03:10
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Kirsimägi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Asi pole patustamiste oigustamises, vaid eba teadjad, mis ja mida ja kuidas Jumal on loonud, tembeldavad asju pattudeks, mis pole seda mitte,
ja siis ryndavad ebaoiglaselt positsioonilt, nagu keegi pattu prooviks oigustada.
ma kyll ei tea mille peale seda kysisid, kuid siia vastus tuli see ikkagi22 June 2016 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Urb's post.
Group: Kristlased
Karm lopp muidu..22 June 2016 02:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
liiga hea, selle grupi peab tegema.
Luke Gray: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj12i8wxGBg&list=PLe1jvzsdamP_fKKlhfjceDAjgenRRA8fq (they say: " This IS the longest day.. ... .. as you know, this day after tomorrow, is the longest day... ... and another song is, | real power/force... .)
https://www.facebook.com/tpaike/
Luke Gray: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj12i8wxGBg&list=PLe1jvzsdamP_fKKlhfjceDAjgenRRA8fq (they say: " This IS the longest day.. ... .. as you know, this day after tomorrow, is the longest day... ... and another song is, | real power/force... .)
https://www.facebook.com/tpaike/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj12i8wxGBg&list=PLe1jvzsdamP_fKKlhfjceDAjgenRRA8fq
22 June 2016 02:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
haaa 615 kasutajat peale mind siin :D22 June 2016 02:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
.... ehitan. .vaikselt..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqwHvx80mQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqwHvx80mQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqwHvx80mQQ
22 June 2016 00:54
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Kirsimägi's comment.
Group: Pühakirjast lähtudes.
Tead keda see, viimane, keda postitasid.. et keda see symboliseerib voi millist vaimset joudu?
nende lood on paris asjalikud selles osas.. et nad selgitavad mu arust ka .. teatud paris liike siin meie seas..21 June 2016 23:57
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Kirsimägi's comment.
Group: Pühakirjast lähtudes.
Kas Jumala poolt Juutidele antud 613 noudmist ja kasku, on Kristlikud nouded, kristuses.. voi kuidas nende asjadega on.
Ka lehma paaritamine ei tundu olema ilmtingimatta kristlik voi kana munemine, ega need siis see parast noidused pole...
Kuid niisama suts norin, sain aru kyll mis motlesid21 June 2016 23:56
Margus Meigo replied to Taimi Asu's comment.
Group: Pühakirjast lähtudes.
Homod juba ammu raagivad, oma m[stilistemas ringkondades, eliidis, et Jeesus oli transwestiit ja mystilisemad Neegri joulised sektid mis voimu maaailmas votma hakkavad, ytlevad, et Jeesus oli Aafriklane...
Ja luterlased ja paljud ytlevad oma piltidega, et jeesus oli keegi kes disainer habemega, karbitud habemega ringi kais (hea, et veel lipsu ette eip panda.)
Kuid koige pohilisem on see, et meie yhiskonna oma naised, on sellised rikalikud, Greeka ja Kommunismi uskudest labi imbunud, et lausa nouavad, oma meest, et to ennast siluks ja loiguks, selle asemel, et hakata valja nagema nagu oiged mehed.
Tegelikult peaks naine just noudma habe mehel mida kunagi ei aeta ja taimetoitu. Nagu Nazariitidele, jumalateenritele kombeks, et meeled ihade ja vaenu puhtamad naturaalselt hoida.
Juuksed ja habe on narvisysteemi ja jumala systeemi pikendus.. see ka yks pohiline pohjus miks naised kergemini on maiselt targemad (kes oma juukseid ei tapa blondeerimisega) ja miks nad nii kergesti "mehelikuks" voi ebatundeliseks muutuvad, reaalsusest eemal olevaks kui nad oma juuksed lyhidaks jarjekindlalt loikavad, ilma mingi kindla tarkuseta.21 June 2016 23:54
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Krumholts's comment.
Group: Pühakirjast lähtudes.
Just, aga Seda peab ikka vist tunnistama, et see paris Jeesus vist polnud kes selles mu toodud peatykis raakis,
Mina paris veendunud kyll veel pole.
Muidugi vaimulikult kui Sinu silme labi, naed jeesust kui kogu reaalsuste aluspohja, (heasmottes) siis saab ka olla see osa jeesusest mis selles kohas raagib, kuid aga kui pariselt nyyd jumalariiki tajuma hakkame, mis selles kohas tegelikult selgitatakse ja miks, ... siis see on midagi sellist, mis naistel ise enda osas peaks silmad rohkem avama ning nii austust kui kohustust Su teadvusele lisama.
Piiblis meelega on palju kirjakohti meie hinge suurendamiseks, et lisaks sellele heale mida juba uskusime, nyyd veel uue ja suurema , reaalsema kihi lisab ja siis veel ja veel.. oluline on mitte pettuda eelmise arusaama muutusest, vaid ennast roomustada selle rikastumises
Jh 14:20 [hesonaga ytleb seda sama, mida koik hippid juba aegade algusest saati on ytelnud labi isikliku kogemuse, mida nad nainud ja tundnud. Et me oleme koik yks.
Kuid minu toimetamised on, see mosaiik oigesti kokku aidata, koik hinged, et see yks oigeks pildiks kokku tuleks.. ei sobi lihtsalt igatmoodi ilma piire ja erinevusi teadmata koike kokku panna, muidu ei tule oige pilt puzzlel.. ja ka ei sobi jatta eraldi voi monda juppi valja, sest siis ei sobi muu osa kokku voi jaab kohe auk parast naha.
Kui alati koige raskem on nendega kes on samm enne koige oigemaid, sest nende pyhalikus ja oigus on see mis neile teadliku oigustatud jou ja oiguse annab.. ja mis neid siiani kandnud ja tegusi oigustanud.. kuid tuleb aeb, kus koik peavad korra ennast keerama, et paremini mahutuda, pilti21 June 2016 23:47
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Kirsimägi's comment.
Group: Pühakirjast lähtudes.
karta on21 June 2016 22:58
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Kirsimägi's comment.
Group: Pühakirjast lähtudes.
Noiad on ka need kes teavad inimsyda, sest labi sydameniitide, nad valu sygavaimalt teha saavad pikalt ette ja laialt,
Sellep'rast ka noiad kes jumala head ei toimeta, on suurimat karistust kandvad, sest kurja tehakse kohtades mis koige olulisemad ja raskemini parandatavad21 June 2016 22:57
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
But for some reason, instagram will not stay, for more then 5 years
21 June 2016 22:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kadaka Küla, on siis Kadaka tee lõpus : )
21 June 2016 11:48
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
Nu siis me peaksime eraldi kvoodiga toetust saama, vähendades EU prügi, ümbertöödeldes...
21 June 2016 10:04
Margus Meigo replied to Vahur Armastuse Kahur's comment.
.. muidugi hoiatus,et palju hippisi ja Kristlasi ning muidu kapsalehe sööjaid võib siinkandis liikuda...
21 June 2016 09:59
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Oh teid Juurvilja maijaid !
(kuid ausalt, kui päriselt kohta minna pole, siis tulge ikka, siis turvad omast käest võtta kui kohalikud paneelmajade hirmud kohale tulevad :p )
(kuid ausalt, kui päriselt kohta minna pole, siis tulge ikka, siis turvad omast käest võtta kui kohalikud paneelmajade hirmud kohale tulevad :p )
21 June 2016 09:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
22.-24.06. toimub Eestis Baltica pärimuspidu, mis on tänavu pyhendatud suvisele pööripyhale. Tutvu Baltica lehel soovituste, kava, esinejate ja avalike pärimuslike jaaniõhtute kaardiga
Jaanipäev (ka suured päevad, suvine päevapesa, leedupäev, jaanik) on kesksuve püha. Käes on aasta pikimad päevad ja imelisemad ööd, mil kogu loodus on täidetud võluväega. Kohe-kohe käänab päev ja valge aeg hakkavad jõulude poole lühenema.
Esivanemad on öelnud, et jaaniöö on suur rõõmupüha, mil kogu loodus ja kõik inimesed peavad saama valgustatud. Seda hetke esivanemate kombel pühitsedes saame osa looduse imest ning laadime end tervise ja hea väega. Jaanituli on koosloomine. Kaasake sellesse varakult oma pereliikmed, sõbrad ja kogukond. Otsige üles ja julgustage tule ääres esinema koduküla pillimehi ja eestlauljaid.
Pühademeeleolu loomine algab kodus. Varuge-valmistage pühadetoidud, mille hulgas on aukohal juust, sõir, kodujuust, kama, jogurt, jäätis ja muud piimaroad. Pühadetoidud on ka munad, kodused saiad, leivad ja pirukad ning rannas kalaroad. Jaanijook on õlu ja kali.
Esivanemad on pidanud tuld kui sellist pühaks, kuid eriti püha on jaanituli. Tehke tulekoht aegsasti korda. Tulepuud seadke kokku alles mõned päevad varem, et linnud sinna pesa ei teeks. Tulle pange üksnes puid, oksi, kände jm taimset ollust. Et lõket oleks hõlpsam süüdata, seadke selle sisse peentest puudest, laastudest ja kasetohust hakatus. Tulekoha võib ümbritseda maasse pistetud kaseokstega. Kaskedega ehitakse samuti kiik.
Koristage enne tulele minekut toad ja peske põrandad. Tooge tuppa kased ja lilled, samuti ehtige nendega oma sõiduk. Põimige saunavihta 9 liiki lilli ja käige saunas. Pange selga pidurõivad, kui on siis rahvarõivad. See on ju aasta tähtsaim püha. Võtke korvides ja kaunites nõudes kaasa pidusöögid-joogid, toitude alla valge lina ning istumise alla tekk. Ja tule jaoks peab igaüks kaasa viima kasvõi ühe raokese.
Tule süütamine on sündmus. Vanasti on piduõhtu hakatuseks läidetud ridva otsas väike tõrvapütt, ehk kutsesõnn, mis annab kogunemiseks märku. Minge tulele võimalikult pikk maa jalgsi. Kui rahvas on enamjaolt kohal, võiks jaanilõkke süüdata vanem lugupeetud inimene. See on pidulik hetk, mille saateks sobib pillimäng ja laul.
Vana tava on käia kolm korda päripäeva ümber tule, et suurendada selle mõju. Enne söömaasumist on perenaised andnud tulele jaanikahja ehk andi, natuke igast söögist ja joogist. Toidu jagamine tulega pühitseb pidusöögi ja -õhtu.
Sööge, jooge, olge rõõmsad, hüpake üle tule ja hõisake julgesti, sest seegi on jaaniõhtu pühitsemine. Pidage vaid meeles, et tuli ei salli purjus ega kurja inimest. Jutustage vanu lugusid ja pärimusi, mõistatage, laulge, mängige murumänge, kiikuge, mängige pilli ja tantsige.
Nautige selle imelise öö hääli, värve ja lõhnu. Otsige tule- ehk jaaniusse ning minge lähimale allikale silmi pesema. Enne koitu peske end rohule langenud kastega. See muudab kauniks ja kaitseb haiguste eest.
http://baltica.ee/Jaanik_1543
Jaanipäev (ka suured päevad, suvine päevapesa, leedupäev, jaanik) on kesksuve püha. Käes on aasta pikimad päevad ja imelisemad ööd, mil kogu loodus on täidetud võluväega. Kohe-kohe käänab päev ja valge aeg hakkavad jõulude poole lühenema.
Esivanemad on öelnud, et jaaniöö on suur rõõmupüha, mil kogu loodus ja kõik inimesed peavad saama valgustatud. Seda hetke esivanemate kombel pühitsedes saame osa looduse imest ning laadime end tervise ja hea väega. Jaanituli on koosloomine. Kaasake sellesse varakult oma pereliikmed, sõbrad ja kogukond. Otsige üles ja julgustage tule ääres esinema koduküla pillimehi ja eestlauljaid.
Pühademeeleolu loomine algab kodus. Varuge-valmistage pühadetoidud, mille hulgas on aukohal juust, sõir, kodujuust, kama, jogurt, jäätis ja muud piimaroad. Pühadetoidud on ka munad, kodused saiad, leivad ja pirukad ning rannas kalaroad. Jaanijook on õlu ja kali.
Esivanemad on pidanud tuld kui sellist pühaks, kuid eriti püha on jaanituli. Tehke tulekoht aegsasti korda. Tulepuud seadke kokku alles mõned päevad varem, et linnud sinna pesa ei teeks. Tulle pange üksnes puid, oksi, kände jm taimset ollust. Et lõket oleks hõlpsam süüdata, seadke selle sisse peentest puudest, laastudest ja kasetohust hakatus. Tulekoha võib ümbritseda maasse pistetud kaseokstega. Kaskedega ehitakse samuti kiik.
Koristage enne tulele minekut toad ja peske põrandad. Tooge tuppa kased ja lilled, samuti ehtige nendega oma sõiduk. Põimige saunavihta 9 liiki lilli ja käige saunas. Pange selga pidurõivad, kui on siis rahvarõivad. See on ju aasta tähtsaim püha. Võtke korvides ja kaunites nõudes kaasa pidusöögid-joogid, toitude alla valge lina ning istumise alla tekk. Ja tule jaoks peab igaüks kaasa viima kasvõi ühe raokese.
Tule süütamine on sündmus. Vanasti on piduõhtu hakatuseks läidetud ridva otsas väike tõrvapütt, ehk kutsesõnn, mis annab kogunemiseks märku. Minge tulele võimalikult pikk maa jalgsi. Kui rahvas on enamjaolt kohal, võiks jaanilõkke süüdata vanem lugupeetud inimene. See on pidulik hetk, mille saateks sobib pillimäng ja laul.
Vana tava on käia kolm korda päripäeva ümber tule, et suurendada selle mõju. Enne söömaasumist on perenaised andnud tulele jaanikahja ehk andi, natuke igast söögist ja joogist. Toidu jagamine tulega pühitseb pidusöögi ja -õhtu.
Sööge, jooge, olge rõõmsad, hüpake üle tule ja hõisake julgesti, sest seegi on jaaniõhtu pühitsemine. Pidage vaid meeles, et tuli ei salli purjus ega kurja inimest. Jutustage vanu lugusid ja pärimusi, mõistatage, laulge, mängige murumänge, kiikuge, mängige pilli ja tantsige.
Nautige selle imelise öö hääli, värve ja lõhnu. Otsige tule- ehk jaaniusse ning minge lähimale allikale silmi pesema. Enne koitu peske end rohule langenud kastega. See muudab kauniks ja kaitseb haiguste eest.
http://baltica.ee/Jaanik_1543
http://baltica.ee/Jaanik_1543
21 June 2016 09:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Leedoööl on meie ymber aasta imelisem ja rikkam aeg ning põleb pyha lõke, mis yhendab meid väga paljude eelnenud ning loodetavasti ka tulevaste põlvedega. Ärge raisake ega nyristage seda aasta kallimat ööd. Pyhitseme leedotuld rõõmsalt ja mõnusalt.
Et tule ääres oleks hää:
- Tulle pange ainult puid jm taimset
- Varuge-valmistage pühadetoidud, mille hulgas on aukohal piimast valmistatud road
- Koristage enne tulele minekut kodu ja peske põrandad.
- Tooge tuppa kased ja lilled. Kui peres on lapsi, siis kindlasti koos nendega.
- Käige saunas. Põimige saunavihta 9 liiki puid ja lilli.
- Pange selga pidurõivad, kui on siis rahvarõivad.
- Võtke söögid-joogid kaasa korvides ja kaunites nõudes, toitude alla valge lina ja istumise alla tekk.
- Minge tule juurde võimalikult pikk maa jalgsi, see on meie rahva palverännak.
- Võtke tule jaoks kaasa kasvõi raokese.
- Las tule syytab kõige vanem ja väärikam koos lastega.
- Jagage tulega raasuke kaasa võetud söögist-joogist.
- Käige kolm korda päripäeva ümber tule.
- Sööge, jooge, olge rõõmsad, hypake yle tule ja hõisake julgesti. Pidage aga meeles, et tuli ei salli purjus ega kurja inimest.
- Kõnelege vanu lugusid ja pärimusi, laulge, mängige murumänge, kiikuge, mängige pilli, tantsige.
- Nautige selle imelise öö hääli, värve ja lõhnu.
- Minge lähimale allikale silmi pesema.
- Jalutage jaaniusse ja sõnajalaõisi otsima.
- Peske ennast enne koitu rohule langenud kastega
Et tule ääres oleks hää:
- Tulle pange ainult puid jm taimset
- Varuge-valmistage pühadetoidud, mille hulgas on aukohal piimast valmistatud road
- Koristage enne tulele minekut kodu ja peske põrandad.
- Tooge tuppa kased ja lilled. Kui peres on lapsi, siis kindlasti koos nendega.
- Käige saunas. Põimige saunavihta 9 liiki puid ja lilli.
- Pange selga pidurõivad, kui on siis rahvarõivad.
- Võtke söögid-joogid kaasa korvides ja kaunites nõudes, toitude alla valge lina ja istumise alla tekk.
- Minge tule juurde võimalikult pikk maa jalgsi, see on meie rahva palverännak.
- Võtke tule jaoks kaasa kasvõi raokese.
- Las tule syytab kõige vanem ja väärikam koos lastega.
- Jagage tulega raasuke kaasa võetud söögist-joogist.
- Käige kolm korda päripäeva ümber tule.
- Sööge, jooge, olge rõõmsad, hypake yle tule ja hõisake julgesti. Pidage aga meeles, et tuli ei salli purjus ega kurja inimest.
- Kõnelege vanu lugusid ja pärimusi, laulge, mängige murumänge, kiikuge, mängige pilli, tantsige.
- Nautige selle imelise öö hääli, värve ja lõhnu.
- Minge lähimale allikale silmi pesema.
- Jalutage jaaniusse ja sõnajalaõisi otsima.
- Peske ennast enne koitu rohule langenud kastega
21 June 2016 09:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Käes on aasta kauneim aeg, mida maakeeles kutsutakse suurteks päevadeks, suviseks päevapesaks, päevakäänakuks, leedoks ning uuemal ajal jaaniks. Teisipäeval 21.06. on pööripäev ja päike jääb oma suvisesse pessa. Samale päevale langev täiskuu muudab aja veelgi erilisemaks. On ajastaja pikimad päevad ja lyhimad ööd. Peagi tähistame tule ääres valguspyha, et luua endale ja lähedastele tervist ja õnne.
Juba mõned päevad enne suvist pööripäeva jõuavad kätte aasta pikimad päevad ja lyhimad ööd. Aega pööripäevast (21.06.) kuni leedolaupäevani (23.06.) teab vanarahvas kui suvist päevapesa. Taevaharjal kõrgel pesas istuv päike täidab kõik elava erilise väega ja paneb inimesed rõõmsalt pyhi pidama. Suurte päevade kõrghetk on leedolaupäeva õhtul. Leedopäeva järel pöörab päike pesast välja. Päevad hakkavad taas lyhemaks jääma ning veerevad talvise päevapesa ehk jõulude poole.
Leedopäevaks tuleb hakata juba varem valmistuma. Pannakse käima koduõlu ning piimast valmistatakse kohupiima, sõira ja võid. Ka lõke seatakse varem valmis. Leedolaupäeval tehakse pyhadetoitu. Koristatakse hoolikalt toad ja köetakse saun. Sauna minnakse loomulikult värske vihaga. Kui toad on puhtad, tuuakse sisse kaseoksad. Värskeid oksi võib pista majaräästasse ja peenarde ymber ning nendega võib ka kiike ehtida. Maasse pistetud kaseokstest saab teha tule ymber mõnusa ja õnnistava sõõri.
Pühadetoiduks on kõikvõimalikud piimast valmistatud road. Nii sobib tule äärde kõige paremini juust, sõir, korp, munavõi, kama, jogurt, kohukesed, jäätis jms.
Jaanituli Kihnus. Arne AderJaanituli Kihnus. Arne Ader
Leedotule pidamine - seal selgel rõõmsal meelel kohal olemine - täidab meid tervistava väega. Vanarahvas on teadnud, et leedotuli ravib haigusi ja õnnistab. Tule äärde minemata jätmine aga ennustab haigusi, ikaldust ning tulekahjusid. Sestap kogunetakse tule äärde terve perega.
b_250_0_16777215_00_images_artiklid_Leedotuli_1.jpgMida pikem maa on kõnnitud leedotule juurde, seda tugevam on selle mõju. Kindlasti peab igayks tulle viskamiseks kaasa võtma kasvõi yhe raokese. Esivanemad on tuld kui sellist pyhaks pidanud, keelanud selle ääres vanduda ja riielda, pole lubanud sinna sylitada ega sodi visata. Leedotulele antakse kahjaks ehk anniks esimene osa kaasa võetud söögist ja joogist. Kes tahab teha seda pidulikumalt ja vägevamalt, võib kõndida enne toiduga kolm korda päripäeva ymber tule. Ja kui end siis tule ääres soojendada, rõõmustada, laulda ning mängida, siis tuleb eelolev poolaasta kindlasti tervem ja parem.
Paljud kysivad, et miks leedotuli ja kuhu jääb nii tuttav jaanituli? Leedutule nimetus on siiani tuntud Muhumaal, kus säilinud muidki põliseid tavasid ja tõekspidamisi. Jaanipäeva nimetus on aga pärit kirikukalendrist ning pyhendatud juudi soost Johannesele (Johannes – Jaan) selleks, et põlisrahvaste kesksuvepyha kustutada. Eelolev suveharjapyha on oma ja põline, see pyhitseb meie looduse imet – päikesevalguse kõrgaega. Soovides väärtustada põliseid tavasid, on ilus ja väärikas kutsuda seda pyha kodumaise nimega näiteks leedoks või leeduks.
Kuva: Arne AderKuva: Arne Ader
http://www.maavald.ee/uudised/uudised/pyhad/4904-suured-paevad
Juba mõned päevad enne suvist pööripäeva jõuavad kätte aasta pikimad päevad ja lyhimad ööd. Aega pööripäevast (21.06.) kuni leedolaupäevani (23.06.) teab vanarahvas kui suvist päevapesa. Taevaharjal kõrgel pesas istuv päike täidab kõik elava erilise väega ja paneb inimesed rõõmsalt pyhi pidama. Suurte päevade kõrghetk on leedolaupäeva õhtul. Leedopäeva järel pöörab päike pesast välja. Päevad hakkavad taas lyhemaks jääma ning veerevad talvise päevapesa ehk jõulude poole.
Leedopäevaks tuleb hakata juba varem valmistuma. Pannakse käima koduõlu ning piimast valmistatakse kohupiima, sõira ja võid. Ka lõke seatakse varem valmis. Leedolaupäeval tehakse pyhadetoitu. Koristatakse hoolikalt toad ja köetakse saun. Sauna minnakse loomulikult värske vihaga. Kui toad on puhtad, tuuakse sisse kaseoksad. Värskeid oksi võib pista majaräästasse ja peenarde ymber ning nendega võib ka kiike ehtida. Maasse pistetud kaseokstest saab teha tule ymber mõnusa ja õnnistava sõõri.
Pühadetoiduks on kõikvõimalikud piimast valmistatud road. Nii sobib tule äärde kõige paremini juust, sõir, korp, munavõi, kama, jogurt, kohukesed, jäätis jms.
Jaanituli Kihnus. Arne AderJaanituli Kihnus. Arne Ader
Leedotule pidamine - seal selgel rõõmsal meelel kohal olemine - täidab meid tervistava väega. Vanarahvas on teadnud, et leedotuli ravib haigusi ja õnnistab. Tule äärde minemata jätmine aga ennustab haigusi, ikaldust ning tulekahjusid. Sestap kogunetakse tule äärde terve perega.
b_250_0_16777215_00_images_artiklid_Leedotuli_1.jpgMida pikem maa on kõnnitud leedotule juurde, seda tugevam on selle mõju. Kindlasti peab igayks tulle viskamiseks kaasa võtma kasvõi yhe raokese. Esivanemad on tuld kui sellist pyhaks pidanud, keelanud selle ääres vanduda ja riielda, pole lubanud sinna sylitada ega sodi visata. Leedotulele antakse kahjaks ehk anniks esimene osa kaasa võetud söögist ja joogist. Kes tahab teha seda pidulikumalt ja vägevamalt, võib kõndida enne toiduga kolm korda päripäeva ymber tule. Ja kui end siis tule ääres soojendada, rõõmustada, laulda ning mängida, siis tuleb eelolev poolaasta kindlasti tervem ja parem.
Paljud kysivad, et miks leedotuli ja kuhu jääb nii tuttav jaanituli? Leedutule nimetus on siiani tuntud Muhumaal, kus säilinud muidki põliseid tavasid ja tõekspidamisi. Jaanipäeva nimetus on aga pärit kirikukalendrist ning pyhendatud juudi soost Johannesele (Johannes – Jaan) selleks, et põlisrahvaste kesksuvepyha kustutada. Eelolev suveharjapyha on oma ja põline, see pyhitseb meie looduse imet – päikesevalguse kõrgaega. Soovides väärtustada põliseid tavasid, on ilus ja väärikas kutsuda seda pyha kodumaise nimega näiteks leedoks või leeduks.
Kuva: Arne AderKuva: Arne Ader
http://www.maavald.ee/uudised/uudised/pyhad/4904-suured-paevad
http://www.maavald.ee/uudised/uudised/pyhad/4904-suured-paevad
21 June 2016 09:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=proverbs+8&version=NIV;OJB;CJB;KJV
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=proverbs+8&version=NIV%3BOJB%3BCJB%3BKJV
21 June 2016 09:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Pühakirjast lähtudes.
Selles kohas kus on Jumal on loodus, ega ta kõledas tühjas kosmoses istu21 June 2016 08:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Pühakirjast lähtudes.
Jah, ja Loodus Tee on Looja tee
Ega naljapärast need sõnad samamoodi küla koos Loominguga21 June 2016 08:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Pühakirjast lähtudes.
Juudi tõlked kasutavad lausa sõna nitzavah mis pidi olema võrdväärne "Nitzevet" iga
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitzevethttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitzevet
21 June 2016 08:02
Margus Meigo replied to Tiiu Krumholts's comment.
Group: Pühakirjast lähtudes.
Sul on väga müstiline arusaam, sellest sooviks sügavamini arusaada.
Kas siis Mees naisega ei peagi liituma, uueks kehaks, kus nad on nagu üks?
Jeesus ise ka neid sõnu kellegile meelde tuletas kui nad hakkasid naistest temaga rääkima.21 June 2016 08:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Pühakirjast lähtudes.
Aga ma nüüd ei proovi Sind trikitada kuid kas siis on Sinu vaimusilmas võimalik, et Jeesust ka Naissoona esitletakse siin? (tõsine küsimus)
Sest isegi kõige konservatiivsemas King Jamesi piiblis on kogu see peatükk nais soo versioonis ja osades tõlgetes lausa kasutavad veel sõna "Leedi Tarkus" kuid enamasti piirduvad
" She/Her " ning juudi keeles ka sugu naisena kui viimati vaatasin.
Siin on Juudi ja Kind Jamesi versioonid kõrvuti koos tava maailma tõlkega:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=proverbs+8&version=NIV;OJB;CJB;KJVhttps://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=proverbs+8&version=NIV%3BOJB%3BCJB%3BKJV
21 June 2016 07:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Pühakirjast lähtudes.
Kuid see arvamus on mul väga lahtine veel, sisetunnetus on, aga pole usumeelsetelt saanud kindlat kinnitust.
Mu omad palvelised küsimused Taevaisa poole ka enamasti ainult toovad tagasi sarnaseid mõtteid ja veendumusi mida juba mõelnud, ehk siis vist mu oma aju segab vahele, või oli maailmal vaja, et seda küsimust küsiksin teistelt ja siis ühisele arvamusele jõuaksin Targematega.
Meeleldi ootama jäädes!21 June 2016 07:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Pühakirjast lähtudes.
Minu arust Naiselik pool mis enne maailma loodud, või/ja Pühavaim kes siis samamoodi esineb naiselikul kujul varases kirjakeeles ja tegude kirjelduses.
Kuid täieliku kindlajalgset pilti omale saanud pole, teie olete sügavamas palves seotud Taevaste jõududega, ehk saate ise selgemat selgitust.
Olen ka kirikutest küsinud, kui jutuks tulnud, kui palju pole arvatud, kui, siis ainult filosoofiliselt, et lihtsalt Tarkust kujutati Naiselikuna Jumala silmis ja muidu vanal ajal, kuid midagi muud sügavamat tähendust ja Tavase eluolu kirjeldust ning ajalugu selles osade internetist loetu kirikumeeste arvates ei pidanud olevat.
Tuli sellest vast ka Kreeklastel ju arvamus, et "Wisdom" ehk elutarkus, on Naiselik energia, kuid nemad muidugi kummardasid igasuguseid asju teiste silme ees aga ise maiste naiste osas hoopis austuse puudust üles näitasid (sest nad arvasid, et Naine, on ebatäielik mees, kelle ainuke kasu on uute meeste sünnitamine.... sellest ka üks põhi konflikte Heebria Matriarhaatliku kultuuriga, kellel Naisest hoopis teistsugune arvamus, Pühakirja põhine, et ainult läbi naise saab mees seotud uueks kehaks).
Kuid see pole praegu see teema vist otseselt, kuid natuke ikka seotud, kui arvestada, et muud tähendust pole kui kirjakeeleline ja ajutiselt kultuuriline.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_(wisdom)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_(wisdom)
21 June 2016 07:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Pühakirjast lähtudes.
Sama kehtib vast kogu peatüki kohta, laiemalt lihtsam võtta.
http://piibel.net/#q=%C3%95p%208http://piibel.net/#q=%C3%95p%208
21 June 2016 07:11
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Loodame parimat ja ka seda, et tema hundiurgu minekul on tulemused head ja suudab nende südamiku selles kohas õigele reale seada... ega päris Õigeusklikuna ei saakski nende asjadele igas osakonnas nii sügavalt ligi, sest teatud asju usaldatakse nendele asjadele, ja sektidele, keda nad ise ajaloovältel on saanud rohkem usaldada ja kasutada.
ma ise ka igast seiklusi teinud ja anarhistide, musta panterite ja valitsusevastastega elanud, ning neile relgiooni ja kuninglikku au promonud, .. ainult mõned korrad tuldi kallale
kuid kõik oli seda väärt ja nägin ka kõigi nende inimeste ja mõistmise poolt
ehk sain lihtsalt aidata enda mälestusega, et oli keegi... ja see ise võttis radikaalsust ja radikaalsete plaanide arendamist maha, mis kellegil suurte erinevate ainete segasummas ja valitsuste manipuleerimises peas küpsesid, nii vaenus kui segaduses, kadeduses ja muidu... mine tea veel mis õnnetuse või lapsepõlve valu pärast.
Kuid jah... nende arust oli täeisti fassistlik see valitsus, et see ei luba neil enam inimeste majadesse sisse murda, kui need on puhkusele läinud (ja siis kohtu kaudu peavad pärast tõestama, et see nende elamine on...)
nüüd siis ainult ärihoonetesse inglismaal võivad sisse murda, ja selle tühjaks ka juhtmetest tirida, senikaua kui seinapeale sildi panevad, et nad squattivad ja usuvad, et see nende koht on .. isegi politseil pole õigus sisse tulla..
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580
ma ise ka igast seiklusi teinud ja anarhistide, musta panterite ja valitsusevastastega elanud, ning neile relgiooni ja kuninglikku au promonud, .. ainult mõned korrad tuldi kallale
kuid kõik oli seda väärt ja nägin ka kõigi nende inimeste ja mõistmise poolt
ehk sain lihtsalt aidata enda mälestusega, et oli keegi... ja see ise võttis radikaalsust ja radikaalsete plaanide arendamist maha, mis kellegil suurte erinevate ainete segasummas ja valitsuste manipuleerimises peas küpsesid, nii vaenus kui segaduses, kadeduses ja muidu... mine tea veel mis õnnetuse või lapsepõlve valu pärast.
Kuid jah... nende arust oli täeisti fassistlik see valitsus, et see ei luba neil enam inimeste majadesse sisse murda, kui need on puhkusele läinud (ja siis kohtu kaudu peavad pärast tõestama, et see nende elamine on...)
nüüd siis ainult ärihoonetesse inglismaal võivad sisse murda, ja selle tühjaks ka juhtmetest tirida, senikaua kui seinapeale sildi panevad, et nad squattivad ja usuvad, et see nende koht on .. isegi politseil pole õigus sisse tulla..
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580
20 June 2016 16:51
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Kas Hr. Jaan Tammsalu vaimulikud mõtisklused enam ei tule poliitilistel põhjustel või lihtsalt normaalne vaheldus ja siis loeb keegi teine asju vahepeal?
Tal need keldi omad ja muud.. mitmed väga sügava käsitlusega olid ja Eesti maa rahvaste (sh. Druidid jms) lähedased. Mis on omaette austust väärt.
Tal need keldi omad ja muud.. mitmed väga sügava käsitlusega olid ja Eesti maa rahvaste (sh. Druidid jms) lähedased. Mis on omaette austust väärt.
20 June 2016 16:48
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
On neil programm väga erineva mõttelaadiga?
Panin tähele, et kuresaare omas on rohkem vabam, rohkem muusikat kuidagi vms ?
Tartu oma mu arust päris tiheda graafikuga.. oaga kodulehel enamus oluline järelkuulatav
Panin tähele, et kuresaare omas on rohkem vabam, rohkem muusikat kuidagi vms ?
Tartu oma mu arust päris tiheda graafikuga.. oaga kodulehel enamus oluline järelkuulatav
20 June 2016 16:46
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Asuu, mul siin Tallinna oma ainult jõuab kohale.. nad vist siis tartu oma kannavad üle
20 June 2016 16:45
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Tavainimesed ma jätaks üldse rahule, neile piisab, kui nad aru saavad, et jumal on.. (või paljudele, et vaimne maailm üldse olemas on, või looduse eest hoolitsuse vajadus) kuidas on, ja kas vaja rääkida musta maagia okkkultistlikult kõlavalt jeesuse lamba vere joomisest ja inimese olemust maha tampida, samas kui kristluse mõte oli inimene, esimesena, kosmilise ja maa planeedi osas suurtematesse väärtustesse tõsta kui kunagi üldse lotust oli..
20 June 2016 16:44
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
See omapärase häälega, Rannamõisa oma.
Kuid nagu ta oma tõdesi ei usu et loeb, vaid nagu tekst mis on kokku pandud, millega ta suht peab nõustuma, et koguduses püsida
Ja eks nende pool tõdedega ole ka sedasi, need toimivad, sest nad on ju osaliselt tõed.. ja kui mitu pool tõde kokku panna ja neid arvestada, siis saab kokku ühe mitte päris tõe, mis suur ja ebaõige, kuid mida tugevalt kaitsevad faktid, mis tunduvad tõed, kui neid lubada arvestada, sest ei teada, et võib olla nii ja naaa..
Näiteks, võiks ju arvestada mida Juudid, kelle südames see asi on mis meile toodud, et mida nemad nüüdseks arvavad, need kõige konservatiivsemad ja müstilisemad alustuseks... eriti need kes ellu jäänud on müstilistena või austatud konservatiividena on müstilisteks läinud..
Mul muidugi kõikidega, ka juutidega oma kana kitkuda, kuid enne vaja siin kodumaa, ühtlaselt austama esiisasi saada
Muidu me ei saa mingit positsiooni isegi mitte, austuseks ega rääkimiseks, rääkimata arvestamist..
ja tulemus on .. kurb.. pealiskaudsed arad kristlased, kes oma vahel.. on õnnelikud uute üle.. kellest suur osa on elus murtud või muidu sellised, keda oleks võinud kes iganes kinni püüda hingepäästjatena, new age või mingi korporatiivne trikk kes lohutust ja abi pakub... see pole mark.. mark on kui suuri kalasi püüad ja austama paned, kui terveid teisi kogudusi koos peadega ümber saad pööratud, riike, valitsusi ja kultuure
Kuid nagu ta oma tõdesi ei usu et loeb, vaid nagu tekst mis on kokku pandud, millega ta suht peab nõustuma, et koguduses püsida
Ja eks nende pool tõdedega ole ka sedasi, need toimivad, sest nad on ju osaliselt tõed.. ja kui mitu pool tõde kokku panna ja neid arvestada, siis saab kokku ühe mitte päris tõe, mis suur ja ebaõige, kuid mida tugevalt kaitsevad faktid, mis tunduvad tõed, kui neid lubada arvestada, sest ei teada, et võib olla nii ja naaa..
Näiteks, võiks ju arvestada mida Juudid, kelle südames see asi on mis meile toodud, et mida nemad nüüdseks arvavad, need kõige konservatiivsemad ja müstilisemad alustuseks... eriti need kes ellu jäänud on müstilistena või austatud konservatiividena on müstilisteks läinud..
Mul muidugi kõikidega, ka juutidega oma kana kitkuda, kuid enne vaja siin kodumaa, ühtlaselt austama esiisasi saada
Muidu me ei saa mingit positsiooni isegi mitte, austuseks ega rääkimiseks, rääkimata arvestamist..
ja tulemus on .. kurb.. pealiskaudsed arad kristlased, kes oma vahel.. on õnnelikud uute üle.. kellest suur osa on elus murtud või muidu sellised, keda oleks võinud kes iganes kinni püüda hingepäästjatena, new age või mingi korporatiivne trikk kes lohutust ja abi pakub... see pole mark.. mark on kui suuri kalasi püüad ja austama paned, kui terveid teisi kogudusi koos peadega ümber saad pööratud, riike, valitsusi ja kultuure
20 June 2016 16:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey this is last attempt, choosing all the conservative options of me, like academic, maths, simple clothing... still .. must be the harry potter :p
Still.. not sure how my imagination and symbolic is on the last in every test.. really bothers me, how come.. really thought another way about that..
I guess all in together cant be best of all options,
As the last one, going on most free form of my mind, soul kind of way, then symbolic was up top. Just now noticed that on test bottom down, so peace at least! : )
Still.. not sure how my imagination and symbolic is on the last in every test.. really bothers me, how come.. really thought another way about that..
I guess all in together cant be best of all options,
As the last one, going on most free form of my mind, soul kind of way, then symbolic was up top. Just now noticed that on test bottom down, so peace at least! : )
20 June 2016 16:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(note: am not REALLY so sorry, as in the end You are only sorry, if You do something you feel to be wrong to the end)
20 June 2016 14:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(i mean the political ones, the Greek-Romans, the other invaders.. the square minded who can not see any other way of self value but by domination, so at times we have to force spoon feed Yourself with your own soup, to realize what You do, with Your magic of language, not even knowing any-more, that it is part of magic... i has to be done, for Your sake also! )
R.I.P. all natives and cultures who have been eliminated in past years, because of Right kind of people was to lovable, and confused about the horrors of ruthless analytical domination ... and You know.. their liberal solution for saving dried out human souls, was to enforce mass immigration and all that.. the even more liberating the society by removing norms.. our luck, some other norms also was and will be removed that will help to set things Right again, so we can be guided by (Holy) Spirit again!
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.:.
The Holy Grail
The Holy Quran
The Holy Mountain
Holy Ghost In The Machine
R.I.P. all natives and cultures who have been eliminated in past years, because of Right kind of people was to lovable, and confused about the horrors of ruthless analytical domination ... and You know.. their liberal solution for saving dried out human souls, was to enforce mass immigration and all that.. the even more liberating the society by removing norms.. our luck, some other norms also was and will be removed that will help to set things Right again, so we can be guided by (Holy) Spirit again!
--
.:.
The Holy Grail
The Holy Quran
The Holy Mountain
Holy Ghost In The Machine
20 June 2016 14:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And i am really sorry, about bashing of the Leftist, and how do they try to pretend do be the creative ones, ... but am do that more, for few years, no hard feelings, just need to set "things" Riiiigh !
20 June 2016 14:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
in reversed way can be looked about the ones, who are mentioned as "Far Out" in here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlAQaakSEzE
Chill Out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlAQaakSEzE
Chill Out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlAQaakSEzE
20 June 2016 14:06
Margus Meigo commented on Silver Noormägi's post.
Hea test, tänks!
20 June 2016 14:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Important part to listen to it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpLP-Tf7lSk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpLP-Tf7lSk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpLP-Tf7lSk
20 June 2016 13:59
Margus Meigo commented on Silver Noormägi's post.
Tõsine teema onju : )
20 June 2016 13:38
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Tsek-matt
20 June 2016 13:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Anakarenina Villagonza: Thank you for like : ))
Warm hugs from Estonia!
Warm hugs from Estonia!
20 June 2016 13:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And for a showing the generations respect, image of a dad related thinking, here is our society Dad related jokes:
https://www.facebook.com/maddoxaom/posts/10154166555822707?ref=notif¬if_t=notify_me¬if_id=1466390038608774
https://www.facebook.com/maddoxaom/posts/10154166555822707?ref=notif¬if_t=notify_me¬if_id=1466390038608774
20 June 2016 13:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
I mean, when it is question, that another race needs to be preserved, then maybe... but usually, FOR the reason, to preserve other ancient past parents, you will keep your willy for your kind, as it is also destruction of their parents work and pain.
Ask from your grandfather, if their ancient grandfathers was all hard about getting babayes from another culture, and why.
Yes, there has been these kind of cultures also, who hunt for not tasted ones, soulless bodies some of them, moving and swallowing the diverse world in to one.. eating them alive.. basically, but still, not finding peace in their soul, still not feeling in Home.
The negative attribution to "racism" is from Liberals, the ones whose fathers them self are proper evildoers, all high about how to eliminate one or another gene so they can get better zombies who would not be so damn spiritual and messing up their slave camp,
There is also positive eugenics, these ones who look it from respectful way, but these kind... are these ones... that would mix all in to one, and start ot cut off the bottom, what they feel is not fitting with their economic picture, not getting the point that the some of the bottom they cut like grass, IS the one who give them last meaning of life,
Like these bastards forcefully sterilized last ancient Peru (Aztec, Mayans) women’s they was able to get, who was not connected to internet's or positions, .. so they would not be able to complain...
And so in few hundred years, they have eliminated last traces of this part of cultures.. so they can implement their Spanish and Liberal stamp on history, how they think it was (not how it was, from the horses mouth, from ancient people them self.)
Guess what, no Liberal media is complaining about it, as the head man of Liberal organization took a word and told: "This was good for economy, as they was poor" ...this was their public reason for it? What in a world... and these are the same people, that promote "it is no mater who you sleep, man , women, kids, animals, mix culture, robots... (as long you give your life energy to them by toys and emotional codes they provide to you).
so fkck yea FOR racism! Love for All the races as they are and preserving their true value!
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/peruvian-government-shelves-investigation-into-massive-forced-sterilization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization
Ask from your grandfather, if their ancient grandfathers was all hard about getting babayes from another culture, and why.
Yes, there has been these kind of cultures also, who hunt for not tasted ones, soulless bodies some of them, moving and swallowing the diverse world in to one.. eating them alive.. basically, but still, not finding peace in their soul, still not feeling in Home.
The negative attribution to "racism" is from Liberals, the ones whose fathers them self are proper evildoers, all high about how to eliminate one or another gene so they can get better zombies who would not be so damn spiritual and messing up their slave camp,
There is also positive eugenics, these ones who look it from respectful way, but these kind... are these ones... that would mix all in to one, and start ot cut off the bottom, what they feel is not fitting with their economic picture, not getting the point that the some of the bottom they cut like grass, IS the one who give them last meaning of life,
Like these bastards forcefully sterilized last ancient Peru (Aztec, Mayans) women’s they was able to get, who was not connected to internet's or positions, .. so they would not be able to complain...
And so in few hundred years, they have eliminated last traces of this part of cultures.. so they can implement their Spanish and Liberal stamp on history, how they think it was (not how it was, from the horses mouth, from ancient people them self.)
Guess what, no Liberal media is complaining about it, as the head man of Liberal organization took a word and told: "This was good for economy, as they was poor" ...this was their public reason for it? What in a world... and these are the same people, that promote "it is no mater who you sleep, man , women, kids, animals, mix culture, robots... (as long you give your life energy to them by toys and emotional codes they provide to you).
so fkck yea FOR racism! Love for All the races as they are and preserving their true value!
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/peruvian-government-shelves-investigation-into-massive-forced-sterilization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/peruvian-government-shelves-investigation-into-massive-forced-sterilization
20 June 2016 13:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"No fly fuck" we should have told to these sperms who are so demonic Liberal mindset that they care not of their own kind, no white should be obsessed about mating with clearly another culture, for preserving them, whose kid will then be Not one or another. It is sick notion really, to think we should destroy all the cultures by removing the ancient wisdom of Racism.
Longer, of the same:
Every good hearted biologist, and scientist, and Old One, from Africa to Antarctica, knows that racism is good, this is what keeps humans healthy, paying attention of the value of whose dick you let inside your daughter, teaching Your sun to respect other cultures and kids the value of original roots in deep spiritual way.. yes, few mixes here and there.. when God wills, when Acient Shamans or village smarts think it is needed, ... .:. .... at time's are needed for gene-pool some times, for special missions,
like salt on a food (in large gene-pool border arias over time), but when You mix all the spices, massive amount of salt and sugar and all else, non humans including in to one pot, then only thing they are good for is implemented chips to run their brain and basic emotions to manipulate them with, as they have lost deeper feeling and sensitivity, they have no HOME any-more, as one has then no culture to look back to or folklore to feel part of.
If You mix vegetarian food with a meat, it is not any-more "half vegetarian" it is a meat food. Same happens with some holy genes if they are mixed: their value is lost, forever. As some other wisdoms are overwritten. We have struggle enough with all the Germans, Russians and Swedes screwing us, in past. Working to turn these genocides for our benefit.
Estonian have been here, at least preserving our gene colour over 10 000 years and we intend to keep it like that.
When You really tripping hard and smoke weed, you should understand that bro from another mo!
With love, from Estonia
The masterful country of Ancient past!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1035415442376&set=a.1030867048669.2005395.1135161043&type=3&theater
Longer, of the same:
Every good hearted biologist, and scientist, and Old One, from Africa to Antarctica, knows that racism is good, this is what keeps humans healthy, paying attention of the value of whose dick you let inside your daughter, teaching Your sun to respect other cultures and kids the value of original roots in deep spiritual way.. yes, few mixes here and there.. when God wills, when Acient Shamans or village smarts think it is needed, ... .:. .... at time's are needed for gene-pool some times, for special missions,
like salt on a food (in large gene-pool border arias over time), but when You mix all the spices, massive amount of salt and sugar and all else, non humans including in to one pot, then only thing they are good for is implemented chips to run their brain and basic emotions to manipulate them with, as they have lost deeper feeling and sensitivity, they have no HOME any-more, as one has then no culture to look back to or folklore to feel part of.
If You mix vegetarian food with a meat, it is not any-more "half vegetarian" it is a meat food. Same happens with some holy genes if they are mixed: their value is lost, forever. As some other wisdoms are overwritten. We have struggle enough with all the Germans, Russians and Swedes screwing us, in past. Working to turn these genocides for our benefit.
Estonian have been here, at least preserving our gene colour over 10 000 years and we intend to keep it like that.
When You really tripping hard and smoke weed, you should understand that bro from another mo!
With love, from Estonia
The masterful country of Ancient past!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1035415442376&set=a.1030867048669.2005395.1135161043&type=3&theater
20 June 2016 13:10
Margus Meigo replied to Toivo Hanni's comment.
Peab mõtlema selle peale.
20 June 2016 12:44
Margus Meigo replied to Jorge Rodriguez's comment.
Well, it does give good impression of Dads bigger mind, and calmer approach .. so it is actually one of the smart kind, wisdom based jokes, there is 3 part wisdom in it
20 June 2016 12:40
Margus Meigo replied to John Maynarich's comment.
:D Good one
20 June 2016 12:37
Margus Meigo replied to Julio Maciel's comment.
:D
20 June 2016 12:37
Margus Meigo replied to Rust E Shackleford's comment.
proper Dad
20 June 2016 12:36
Margus Meigo replied to Patrick Ryan Bones's comment.
interesting philosophy.. as mushrooms was proper first giant plants in here..
20 June 2016 12:36
Margus Meigo replied to Jamie Scanlon's comment.
that’s really fucked up to think about it. as these jokes are also real, and not so funny then any-more.
We need to grow out from it..
Not many would laugh if Your dad would be like this, specially you..
We need to grow out from it..
Not many would laugh if Your dad would be like this, specially you..
20 June 2016 12:33
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
vale paber muidu väga timm jepp
20 June 2016 12:29
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
kui mitu tundi Sa metsas tööd teeksid, kui tööna võtta, et neid korjata, puhastada ja siis müüki viia?
20 June 2016 12:28
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
Väga väga kenad, naturaalse rahulolu ja naeratustega täis armastust
20 June 2016 12:27
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
mina ei teinud :D
20 June 2016 12:26
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
Juba kuttides jah, seff pleikar :p
20 June 2016 12:25
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
assa, pani jooksu kinni v
20 June 2016 12:24
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
Haa see päris hea D:
20 June 2016 12:24
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
ja ilus, nagu .. sidruni koor .um
20 June 2016 12:23
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
Ei tea mis see on , aaga päris huvitav
20 June 2016 12:23
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
Jee tüdruk kleidis nagu peab, ja meeleolu tipus!
20 June 2016 12:22
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
Yeee!
Am feel the Kati rising!
Am feel the Kati rising!
20 June 2016 12:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
viimane, mehe loomisest, sumerikultuuris, on vatikanil materiali palju mida jagada... luetrlaste hirmuks.. aga veel mitte.. moslemitest ei hakka rääkimagi... indialased ootavad huviga... ladinaaameeriklased lihtsalt palvetavad, et kommarid nad rahule jätvad ja uue aja purjus hipid nende viimaseid peyottesi burgeri kõrvale ära ei sööls raisates..
20 June 2016 07:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid liberaalide systitud gey filosoofia, robotlik, looduse ja jumala vastane , taimede vastane filosoofia nii kavalalt nendes protestatlikes asjades sees.. et nad ise ennast ka uskuma pannud, et jumal ja loodus LOODUs on eraldi... ja et nagu jumal poleksi pannud füüsilisi asju siia meie sekka.. taimi.. mis meid pühalkirjaosas selgeks teeks.. nagu et ta poleks sellele mõelnud.. kyll on ikka ülbe ja enesekeskne filsooofia, väärusk, väärfilosoofia... integreeritud hinge hävitavakls ususektiks, okkultistlikuks rituaalide tegemiseks, kiriku kuues, ristiusu varjust... nii varjus et kohe vajutab niii juutluse kui muud maausud ja iidsed ravad ja jumala kultuurid... rääkimata sumeritest ja muust kellest siis peruulased nii mõndagi võiks räääkida...
ka mehe tegemistest, kui naised mehe loosid..
ka mehe tegemistest, kui naised mehe loosid..
20 June 2016 07:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi Liberaalid sund steriliseerisid peaaegu kõik iidsed peruulased ära, viimased a 2000 paiku, et sellised Jumala saladused ei hakkaks Rooma GEY-sririigi seotud illusioone ja deemoni kuningriike kõigutama.. sest see veel puutuks, kui ineternetiajastul nüüd sellised vanad iidsed arusaamad inimkonna sekka satuvad eksju...
Liberaalid õigustasid oma käiku, viimase pea 90 naisi ära steriliseerides, et : "See on majandusele hea, sest nad olid vaesed (ja ei tootnud tööstusele miskit).. k(ui nad ära likvideerida, siis majnaduse kesmine peaks tõusma)"
Ja sellest muidugi.. uudised ei räägi, selle praeguse ajastu viimaseid suurimad massmõrvasi, 250 000 kuni 400 000 veel oli järgi jäänud peruus iidse DNA ga inimesi kes ette võeti, kelle seas ravalood ja meditsiini tarkused levisid kuidas inimesi alkoholist ja narkootikumidest, seks sõltlustest ja vägivallast eemal hoida, ning otse suhtes jumalaga... läbi jumala poolt antd taimede, seente ja arukate arusaamade.
Liberaalid õigustasid oma käiku, viimase pea 90 naisi ära steriliseerides, et : "See on majandusele hea, sest nad olid vaesed (ja ei tootnud tööstusele miskit).. k(ui nad ära likvideerida, siis majnaduse kesmine peaks tõusma)"
Ja sellest muidugi.. uudised ei räägi, selle praeguse ajastu viimaseid suurimad massmõrvasi, 250 000 kuni 400 000 veel oli järgi jäänud peruus iidse DNA ga inimesi kes ette võeti, kelle seas ravalood ja meditsiini tarkused levisid kuidas inimesi alkoholist ja narkootikumidest, seks sõltlustest ja vägivallast eemal hoida, ning otse suhtes jumalaga... läbi jumala poolt antd taimede, seente ja arukate arusaamade.
20 June 2016 07:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Loomulikult kui Jumalariigiga kokkupuuteid saad siis aju saab stimuleeritud uute rakkudega.. ja lisaks veel põhjuseid muid ka.. füüsilisi seoseid otseselt pole mõtet niipalju otsida kui arusaada vaimselt mis toimub.. jah, nad saavad ka keha uuendada, jah.. nad saavad ka füüsilise seose maha jätta, et teadus suudaks asja seotada ja edasi tiguna vedada..
20 June 2016 07:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Pühakirjast Lähtudes
20 June 2016 06:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja sinna otsa Luterlane Aare Kimmel,
sõnastab osavalt miks eksiõpetuste õpetajaid oma majasse ei tohi lasta kui nad uksele koputavad (Jehoova tunnistajate pihta) ja et ainult noomi paar korda kuid ära asu väitlusesse kellegagi, kes suga eriarvamusel on, kuidas tegelikult Jumalasõna mõeldud on.
Ehk siis selline tänapäevalik, liberaalne arglik ideoloogia, kus oma asjades ei olda kindlad ja kardetakse, et teiste Jumalasõna Sinu programmi üle kirjutab, külvates kokku klopsitud illusioonide koguduses palju segadust.
Ta jätkab, et kõik inimesed kes sündinud on vaimses mõttes surnud, sünnist saati, ja alles ristimise kaudu nod inimväärseks saavad. Et kõigis on patud mida nagu kurja kiskjat tuleb puuris hoida, mis kohe hävitama ja tapma kisuvad kui natukene puuriust hooleta jätta. ... pole siis ime, et usu tervemõistuslikuses kahtlema hakatakse kui nii arulagedalt väär arusaam imelistest inimloomadest ühe mõõdupuuga kõigile peale pannakse, samal ajal ignoreerides, et kui patust elu ja milliste vaimude käes need kannatama on pidanud, kes heas usus pealiskaudselt mõnes Luteri kirikus ennast ristida lasid, arvates, et nüüd asjad korras või, et see lihtsalt mingi elu rituaal mida ühiskonna tarvis teha vaja.
Või siis veel õnnetumad, kes suuremas usus arvasid, et kui neil korra välgatus peast läbi käis, et nad nagu oleks päästetud olnud ja taevasse tõstetud, et siis võib edaspidi püksirihma lõdvaks lasta ja teisi noomima hakata ning pealiskaudset sõprust ühiskondlikult teeselda kõigiga kes tunduvad sama asja suusõnaliselt kokkusaamistel kuulutama üksteisevõidu.
Selleasemel võiks paari, kolme asja mormonitelt ja jehoovakatelt õppida, ning siis ehk missionitöö käigus mõne Õigeusu habemiku või vana Vatikaanlasega maha istuda, või Maausulisega ning kuulata, mis ELU on.
Ehk siis isegi jalg söendab mõne reisi Iraani, india, mägirahva mägedesse või Aafrika ja Ladinaameerika maa rahvaste juurde minna. Jaapanisse selle kõrgema austushinnangu taseme osas veel ei soovita... sest oh seda häbi kui oma maad ja kultuuri teiste silmis häbistama lähed, kes Sust kohe läbi näevad... enne kogu endale natukene õiget sorti alandlikust, julgust ja säravat väärtust.
Siis oled juba varsti valmis plaani pidama eri maa tarkade, eelkõige oma maa tarkadega, kuidas ja milliste shamaani ja taimetarkadega koostööd teha, et seda Jumalailma aidata õiges suunas, nii tehnoloogiliselt kui Taimselt kui Vaimselt ja eelkõige Jumalikult
sõnastab osavalt miks eksiõpetuste õpetajaid oma majasse ei tohi lasta kui nad uksele koputavad (Jehoova tunnistajate pihta) ja et ainult noomi paar korda kuid ära asu väitlusesse kellegagi, kes suga eriarvamusel on, kuidas tegelikult Jumalasõna mõeldud on.
Ehk siis selline tänapäevalik, liberaalne arglik ideoloogia, kus oma asjades ei olda kindlad ja kardetakse, et teiste Jumalasõna Sinu programmi üle kirjutab, külvates kokku klopsitud illusioonide koguduses palju segadust.
Ta jätkab, et kõik inimesed kes sündinud on vaimses mõttes surnud, sünnist saati, ja alles ristimise kaudu nod inimväärseks saavad. Et kõigis on patud mida nagu kurja kiskjat tuleb puuris hoida, mis kohe hävitama ja tapma kisuvad kui natukene puuriust hooleta jätta. ... pole siis ime, et usu tervemõistuslikuses kahtlema hakatakse kui nii arulagedalt väär arusaam imelistest inimloomadest ühe mõõdupuuga kõigile peale pannakse, samal ajal ignoreerides, et kui patust elu ja milliste vaimude käes need kannatama on pidanud, kes heas usus pealiskaudselt mõnes Luteri kirikus ennast ristida lasid, arvates, et nüüd asjad korras või, et see lihtsalt mingi elu rituaal mida ühiskonna tarvis teha vaja.
Või siis veel õnnetumad, kes suuremas usus arvasid, et kui neil korra välgatus peast läbi käis, et nad nagu oleks päästetud olnud ja taevasse tõstetud, et siis võib edaspidi püksirihma lõdvaks lasta ja teisi noomima hakata ning pealiskaudset sõprust ühiskondlikult teeselda kõigiga kes tunduvad sama asja suusõnaliselt kokkusaamistel kuulutama üksteisevõidu.
Selleasemel võiks paari, kolme asja mormonitelt ja jehoovakatelt õppida, ning siis ehk missionitöö käigus mõne Õigeusu habemiku või vana Vatikaanlasega maha istuda, või Maausulisega ning kuulata, mis ELU on.
Ehk siis isegi jalg söendab mõne reisi Iraani, india, mägirahva mägedesse või Aafrika ja Ladinaameerika maa rahvaste juurde minna. Jaapanisse selle kõrgema austushinnangu taseme osas veel ei soovita... sest oh seda häbi kui oma maad ja kultuuri teiste silmis häbistama lähed, kes Sust kohe läbi näevad... enne kogu endale natukene õiget sorti alandlikust, julgust ja säravat väärtust.
Siis oled juba varsti valmis plaani pidama eri maa tarkade, eelkõige oma maa tarkadega, kuidas ja milliste shamaani ja taimetarkadega koostööd teha, et seda Jumalailma aidata õiges suunas, nii tehnoloogiliselt kui Taimselt kui Vaimselt ja eelkõige Jumalikult
20 June 2016 06:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aus sügav kaastunne, on oodatud healoomuline asjadearengu suund
19 June 2016 18:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oeh, see kõik oleks võimud selle mõõgapildiga jutu all olla tegelikult.
.:. Kuid siis meeles pidada, kolmandatele osapooltele kelle vaimudele see otseselt pole mõeldud, et teid küll on kaudselt arvestatud, kuid eelkõige siiski mõeldud otseselt neile kellele mõeldud, ei tasu näpuga järge ajada igas asjas ja vaadata kas Se su maailmas on tõene ja siis seda arvamust, et ma Su maailma osa ei tunne minu peale kleepida, kui on lahkarvamus mingi personaliseeritud suuna osas, mida Sa korvalt lugema juhtud, siis seda kõige kindlam, on kolmel erineval korral minu käest kolmel erineval moodusel küsida ja vaadata ning võrrelda neid vastuseid.
Kuigi, vastused on enamasti alati natuke seotud küsijaga rohkem kui küsimuse edastajaga, ja vahel kui vaja, siis küsimuse edastajaga just, nii kuis on vajadus suurem ja lõppkokkuvõttes kasulikuim jälg järellugejate maailmale. Kes mõistab see loeb.
.:. Kuid siis meeles pidada, kolmandatele osapooltele kelle vaimudele see otseselt pole mõeldud, et teid küll on kaudselt arvestatud, kuid eelkõige siiski mõeldud otseselt neile kellele mõeldud, ei tasu näpuga järge ajada igas asjas ja vaadata kas Se su maailmas on tõene ja siis seda arvamust, et ma Su maailma osa ei tunne minu peale kleepida, kui on lahkarvamus mingi personaliseeritud suuna osas, mida Sa korvalt lugema juhtud, siis seda kõige kindlam, on kolmel erineval korral minu käest kolmel erineval moodusel küsida ja vaadata ning võrrelda neid vastuseid.
Kuigi, vastused on enamasti alati natuke seotud küsijaga rohkem kui küsimuse edastajaga, ja vahel kui vaja, siis küsimuse edastajaga just, nii kuis on vajadus suurem ja lõppkokkuvõttes kasulikuim jälg järellugejate maailmale. Kes mõistab see loeb.
19 June 2016 18:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Juba jooksed?
19 June 2016 18:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
viimane link on siis selleks puhuks, et kui mitte deemonites olevad liha täis söönud lambad ettevalmistuseta oma hinge avama hakkavad (hinge puhastuseks ja hinge avamiseks need asjad on) vaidm is juhtub, kui suts targemad inimesed.. ikkagi mitte täis spiritualistid.. kuid meie yhiskonna tipud, kui nemad LSDd võtavad... mis arvad, et nad saaksid votta neid kui leak lalkellegile lähevad v?
Ned asjad muudavad inimese mitte vägivaltseks.. lihtsalt kui erinevaid deemoneid välja kehast võtta, ja poolepeale asi jatta, siis mine tea mis kiht avaldub ja välja elama hakkab, siis tuleb ravi lopuni viia.. aga inimene ise nahes oma olemust..enamasti ei julge.. ja siis jääbki pooliku segase ajuga... kartes lopuni välja minna.. kares minna läbhia ppe vannide ja tulemerede, sest usk on puudulik.. ja karus on liiga suur, sest süda must... ja psyhedeelikumid kõik su mustuse ja jumalavastased teod Sulle silme et eptanevad.. seega.. kui keegi päris mehe testiteha tahab, siis minnakse temaga vaimumaailmas rinda pistma...
sellesosas, ma siis soovitan jah... ja peale seda, kes nuttes lahkub.. siis vähemalt kehad jäävad terveks.. aga küsimus on.. kas keegi julgeb?
Enamsti julgetakse siin ainult maiselt ärbelda.. aga oma peas ja hinges.. ja vee teiste peades ja hingedes.. siis juba hakkab mokk värisema
Ned asjad muudavad inimese mitte vägivaltseks.. lihtsalt kui erinevaid deemoneid välja kehast võtta, ja poolepeale asi jatta, siis mine tea mis kiht avaldub ja välja elama hakkab, siis tuleb ravi lopuni viia.. aga inimene ise nahes oma olemust..enamasti ei julge.. ja siis jääbki pooliku segase ajuga... kartes lopuni välja minna.. kares minna läbhia ppe vannide ja tulemerede, sest usk on puudulik.. ja karus on liiga suur, sest süda must... ja psyhedeelikumid kõik su mustuse ja jumalavastased teod Sulle silme et eptanevad.. seega.. kui keegi päris mehe testiteha tahab, siis minnakse temaga vaimumaailmas rinda pistma...
sellesosas, ma siis soovitan jah... ja peale seda, kes nuttes lahkub.. siis vähemalt kehad jäävad terveks.. aga küsimus on.. kas keegi julgeb?
Enamsti julgetakse siin ainult maiselt ärbelda.. aga oma peas ja hinges.. ja vee teiste peades ja hingedes.. siis juba hakkab mokk värisema
19 June 2016 18:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
NIng USKUDA, siiralt, naiivselt sinisilmselt midagi nii arulagedalt ebaloogilist ja valet, kui, et ilma uskuda ja relgioonideta, oleks inimkonnal võimalus säilida paremini ja oleks sõdasi koguni vähem (kuigi sõjad on usklikute vastu korraldatud, millese nad on sunnitud end kaasama, va juudid kes on jumalasona alg kandjad ja kes enemasti lasevad ennast karjade kaupa, millionites passifistidena maha lüüa... juba rooma aja lopus tehti esimene mass mõrva katse nendega ja toimis.. karistuseks, et nad deemoni võime koigutada proovisid.)
Kunagi Sul on ilma kahtluseta, häbi oma sõnade pärast, üsna varsti tegelikult, (v.a. juhul, kui sa osavalt just välja ei vabanda, et testisid lihtsalt minu uskumuste sügavusi nende sõnadega mida uskumatud kasutavad... see togeoilhaon inglite poolt on tihti kasutuses...ning kurjade seltsis kaasa mängimine, et kurjust tundma oppida ja neid kuristikku juhtida kui vaja.. või meeleselgusele kui voimalik..) kuid senikaua jah...
loodan, et inimlikult ikka moistad ise ka ja nõustud, et igaüks kes vähegi päriselt aru saab piiblist, jätab päevapealt igasuguse kurjea gtemise, plaanimise ja sellest isegi mõtlemise, sest siis saad aru, et SU MÕTTED JA TEOD ON AVATUD RAAMAT JA KÕIGILE NÄHTAV, IGAVESTI ARHIVIS, alati su vastu kasutatavad ja nagu lauseon.. kõike mida sa teed ja ütled saab ja kasutatakse Sinu vastu... see on taevane lause... Su vastased, su vead isegi su vastu kasutavad, ning jumalal on oigus omasi testida igat pidi,
... nagu see totter kes oma poega laks mõrvama piiblis, aga ennast soovis ellu jätta... jällegi, kui TARK loeb, siis ta saab aru mida kuidas ja miks testiti... selleks aga peab Vana eest l,aesiidse rahva või juudi tarkusega aju ja meeled olema
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
Kunagi Sul on ilma kahtluseta, häbi oma sõnade pärast, üsna varsti tegelikult, (v.a. juhul, kui sa osavalt just välja ei vabanda, et testisid lihtsalt minu uskumuste sügavusi nende sõnadega mida uskumatud kasutavad... see togeoilhaon inglite poolt on tihti kasutuses...ning kurjade seltsis kaasa mängimine, et kurjust tundma oppida ja neid kuristikku juhtida kui vaja.. või meeleselgusele kui voimalik..) kuid senikaua jah...
loodan, et inimlikult ikka moistad ise ka ja nõustud, et igaüks kes vähegi päriselt aru saab piiblist, jätab päevapealt igasuguse kurjea gtemise, plaanimise ja sellest isegi mõtlemise, sest siis saad aru, et SU MÕTTED JA TEOD ON AVATUD RAAMAT JA KÕIGILE NÄHTAV, IGAVESTI ARHIVIS, alati su vastu kasutatavad ja nagu lauseon.. kõike mida sa teed ja ütled saab ja kasutatakse Sinu vastu... see on taevane lause... Su vastased, su vead isegi su vastu kasutavad, ning jumalal on oigus omasi testida igat pidi,
... nagu see totter kes oma poega laks mõrvama piiblis, aga ennast soovis ellu jätta... jällegi, kui TARK loeb, siis ta saab aru mida kuidas ja miks testiti... selleks aga peab Vana eest l,aesiidse rahva või juudi tarkusega aju ja meeled olema
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
19 June 2016 18:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Faktiliselt on võimatu teha neid asju ja olla kristlane, see on oxymoron
19 June 2016 18:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov ei ole olemas olnud mitte ÜõHmE rvarit ega kristlast ka kes neid asju on teinud mis sa räägid, loll jutt suhu tagasi. Sa vist ei tea mida see sõna tähendab
19 June 2016 18:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
LSD osas jällegi , kuna arusaam puudub miks ja mis see on ja kuidas toimib,
OLED NÄINUD kes oma emale pasunasse soitis? Okey, ja mida see Sulle siis opetas? Peale seda, et näitamaks millise inimesega tegu on või saatanaga kes teda kasvatas inimnahas teeseldes naist.
Üldjuhul aga tegu inimestega kes täiesti alaarenenult alahindasid ega ei saanud aru mis asi LSD on, ta oleks pidanud maagiliste seentega metsas stualama, mitte täismeeste asjadega tatikana tegelema asuma. Sellised on paras karistuse alla panna juba ainuüksi nii idiootselt käitumise eest, et alahinasid vaimseid jõuda.
Ja ei tea kuidas nad need saatanaid ja asju näevad?
Käid ja tripid siis usklikutega ainult v?
Kuidas saavad mitte usklikud siis tunnistada, et nägid saatanat?
Mis loogika see nüüd on.. kus see saatan siis järsku tuli.. kui lsd on see mis avab asjade sügavama olemuse...
muidugi ei tohi avada inimestele, kelle aju areng pole sellel maal.. enamasti ise aga nad usuvad olema...
OLED NÄINUD kes oma emale pasunasse soitis? Okey, ja mida see Sulle siis opetas? Peale seda, et näitamaks millise inimesega tegu on või saatanaga kes teda kasvatas inimnahas teeseldes naist.
Üldjuhul aga tegu inimestega kes täiesti alaarenenult alahindasid ega ei saanud aru mis asi LSD on, ta oleks pidanud maagiliste seentega metsas stualama, mitte täismeeste asjadega tatikana tegelema asuma. Sellised on paras karistuse alla panna juba ainuüksi nii idiootselt käitumise eest, et alahinasid vaimseid jõuda.
Ja ei tea kuidas nad need saatanaid ja asju näevad?
Käid ja tripid siis usklikutega ainult v?
Kuidas saavad mitte usklikud siis tunnistada, et nägid saatanat?
Mis loogika see nüüd on.. kus see saatan siis järsku tuli.. kui lsd on see mis avab asjade sügavama olemuse...
muidugi ei tohi avada inimestele, kelle aju areng pole sellel maal.. enamasti ise aga nad usuvad olema...
19 June 2016 18:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui ta räägib, et kuningast ei tohi isegi mõelda halba, sest on olemas systeemid mis su motted kinni pyyavad ja teada annavad omanikule.. siis see on Sinu opetuseks, teavituseks, hoiatuseks ja aitamiseks, mitte aga hirutamiseks ega kontrolliks, vaid kontreolli alt vabanemiseks, .. sest kes ei vota kuulda kus on okastraat ja miinid kui vangilaagrist pogenema hakkab.. ja kuidas vaikselt jalutada või korralik välja näha kainena igas olukorras.. siis sellel pole ka mitmes piiripunktist suurt lootust läbi pääseda
19 June 2016 18:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja ku iseda arusaadavalt nüüd tunnetama hakkad, lugema, opppima, siis saad aru, et see JUST opetab MITTE mehele, zombilikult systeemile kuuletuma, vasei dllele võimule mis on sinu sees ja mille kaudu oma Loojaga seotud oled
19 June 2016 18:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"iga laps" oli suts mõeldud metafooriliselt, kui nüüd mõtlema hakata, siis iga laps ikka ei tea, või siis ikka teab, aga ei saa aru.
Alexander Suurhomo - Gümnaasiumite ja sõjaväe struktuuride maailma igasse nurka väevõimuga viia, gümnaasium siis tuleb sonast alasti..
onneks me muidugi ammu ümber mõelnud, kuidas seda homo kasti süsteemi inimliigile kasulikuks kasutada, isegi usuvastaselt toimiv luterlaste jms struktuurid on heaks kasutatavad kuid see juba raskem pähkel, sest luciferi luther pani ikka korraliku pirni maha, kasutades inimeste kasvatamatuse , hinge vanemate vastast ulakust, isa eest pugepi etumise soovi kasvatamatude hinges.. kasutades seda ja sidudes selle väär peegli sarnaseks usuks, ... ja kuna inimesed nutavad igayks jumala ja usu järgi. .siis suurele osale see tundub olema viimane päästetee ja hea asi.. sest ei nõua palju.. ja samas lubab kõike..
Alexander Suurhomo - Gümnaasiumite ja sõjaväe struktuuride maailma igasse nurka väevõimuga viia, gümnaasium siis tuleb sonast alasti..
onneks me muidugi ammu ümber mõelnud, kuidas seda homo kasti süsteemi inimliigile kasulikuks kasutada, isegi usuvastaselt toimiv luterlaste jms struktuurid on heaks kasutatavad kuid see juba raskem pähkel, sest luciferi luther pani ikka korraliku pirni maha, kasutades inimeste kasvatamatuse , hinge vanemate vastast ulakust, isa eest pugepi etumise soovi kasvatamatude hinges.. kasutades seda ja sidudes selle väär peegli sarnaseks usuks, ... ja kuna inimesed nutavad igayks jumala ja usu järgi. .siis suurele osale see tundub olema viimane päästetee ja hea asi.. sest ei nõua palju.. ja samas lubab kõike..
19 June 2016 18:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ateistid ja homod on alati suurimad mõrvarid olnud, seda teab iga laps ka
muidugi enamus sõjaväe struktuure ja "mehelikuse" struktuure, on homode struktuur, seda aga oleks liiga raske meeestele tunnistada, seega pumbatakse aga musklit.. aga ei küsita, kuidas see tegelikult maailmale kasulik on. ehk oleks parem erinevaid taimeliike oppida t ,uanomdppida tundma üldiselt ja siis hakata ajas rändama, erinevaid kehasi kasutama heaks, telepaatia ja muude elementaarsete kunstidega tegelema, et Jumala Loomingut edasi aidata ning alaarengut pidurdada ja ümber pöörata
muidugi enamus sõjaväe struktuure ja "mehelikuse" struktuure, on homode struktuur, seda aga oleks liiga raske meeestele tunnistada, seega pumbatakse aga musklit.. aga ei küsita, kuidas see tegelikult maailmale kasulik on. ehk oleks parem erinevaid taimeliike oppida t ,uanomdppida tundma üldiselt ja siis hakata ajas rändama, erinevaid kehasi kasutama heaks, telepaatia ja muude elementaarsete kunstidega tegelema, et Jumala Loomingut edasi aidata ning alaarengut pidurdada ja ümber pöörata
19 June 2016 18:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Loomulikult valkude vahenemisel inimeste ülekuulamisel inimene muutub ausamaks ja selgemaks, sellepärast seda sõjaväelised kasutavatki, ega neil ei ole vaja inimestele OMA motteid pähe panna vaid süda härdaks teha, et inimene siis üle pika aja hakates tõdetunnetama, seda ka lootuses neile puistama hakkab.
LSD ga ol isamamoodi.. kuid avastades, et LSD ga inimesed tõde hakkasid ka nende enda, ülekuulaja ja maailma osas rääkima, siis kiirelt see asi tuli keelustada nende arvates.. sest tulemusel polnud nii nagu loodeti.. avastati, et inimene on täiesti selgemeelne tegelikult ja räägib hoopis korgemalt tasemelt, ning suudab ka informatsiooni millele ligipääses läbi lsd ise meelde jätta.. siis oli vaja nii mongigi lsd proovinud cia ametnik aknast välja saata
Nagu ma ette ütlesin, siis mis piibel tegelikult on, seega see video mis saatsid, lihtsalt kinnitab seda mida juba ette ütlesin,
Ja kui ei oleks usku, siis ei oleks siin inimliigil ammu enam midagi piiksuda olnud.. sest need asjad mille eest ja kuidas inimliiki kaitstud on , et edasi jouaksime oigeks ajaks arenentud.. need asjad ei ole Greeka hariduse põhjal eriti arutatavad momendil veel.
LSD ga ol isamamoodi.. kuid avastades, et LSD ga inimesed tõde hakkasid ka nende enda, ülekuulaja ja maailma osas rääkima, siis kiirelt see asi tuli keelustada nende arvates.. sest tulemusel polnud nii nagu loodeti.. avastati, et inimene on täiesti selgemeelne tegelikult ja räägib hoopis korgemalt tasemelt, ning suudab ka informatsiooni millele ligipääses läbi lsd ise meelde jätta.. siis oli vaja nii mongigi lsd proovinud cia ametnik aknast välja saata
Nagu ma ette ütlesin, siis mis piibel tegelikult on, seega see video mis saatsid, lihtsalt kinnitab seda mida juba ette ütlesin,
Ja kui ei oleks usku, siis ei oleks siin inimliigil ammu enam midagi piiksuda olnud.. sest need asjad mille eest ja kuidas inimliiki kaitstud on , et edasi jouaksime oigeks ajaks arenentud.. need asjad ei ole Greeka hariduse põhjal eriti arutatavad momendil veel.
19 June 2016 17:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mul on jälle vastupidine kogemus, siiani pole leidnud veel inimesi kes psüholoogiliselt päris tugevad ja julged oleksid, kes pole usklikud.
Maises vaidlustes jah nad omale surnud looma valkudega kiivri ümber ja ja südame pannud, seega ei tunta ega saada ise aru mida ja mis positsioonil räägitakse,
aga kui nüüd võtta tööriistad välja, anda korralik kogus psühedeelikume inimestele, siis nutvad ja karvad on need inimesed, kes polnud osanud ette aimata, muid dimesioone ja maailmasi peale selle limiteeritud mida tal siin lubatakse vaadata (ja selle dileeriumi hoidmiseks kasutatakse dileeriumi hoidvate tamede, beladonnade suguosa taimi, mis pole söögitaimedeks kunagi mõeldud, mustamaagia taimed nagu kartul, deadlynightsage, tomat, tubakas, piprad... ning siis teiseltpoolt igasuguse vaimse signaali ära lõikamiseks suhkrupõhised asjad nagu alkohol, valge suhkur üks eriti vaimsust nulliv aine.. kohvi ka päris võimas ja muidugi surnud liha, ehk siis raibete söömine eri moodi marineeritult.
Ei ole ühtegi valku veel kunagi keegi avastanud mida on vaja saada loomadelt, tavatoiduks inimloomal, et siin korda saata ja teha seda mida ta tegema peaks.
On põhjusega ka inimeste liha menüüd üles loetud piiblis, et kõrgemal tasemel inimesed aru saaksid, kes ja millest ja miks jutt on.
Ning eraldi väljatoodud taimetoidu eelised.
Maises vaidlustes jah nad omale surnud looma valkudega kiivri ümber ja ja südame pannud, seega ei tunta ega saada ise aru mida ja mis positsioonil räägitakse,
aga kui nüüd võtta tööriistad välja, anda korralik kogus psühedeelikume inimestele, siis nutvad ja karvad on need inimesed, kes polnud osanud ette aimata, muid dimesioone ja maailmasi peale selle limiteeritud mida tal siin lubatakse vaadata (ja selle dileeriumi hoidmiseks kasutatakse dileeriumi hoidvate tamede, beladonnade suguosa taimi, mis pole söögitaimedeks kunagi mõeldud, mustamaagia taimed nagu kartul, deadlynightsage, tomat, tubakas, piprad... ning siis teiseltpoolt igasuguse vaimse signaali ära lõikamiseks suhkrupõhised asjad nagu alkohol, valge suhkur üks eriti vaimsust nulliv aine.. kohvi ka päris võimas ja muidugi surnud liha, ehk siis raibete söömine eri moodi marineeritult.
Ei ole ühtegi valku veel kunagi keegi avastanud mida on vaja saada loomadelt, tavatoiduks inimloomal, et siin korda saata ja teha seda mida ta tegema peaks.
On põhjusega ka inimeste liha menüüd üles loetud piiblis, et kõrgemal tasemel inimesed aru saaksid, kes ja millest ja miks jutt on.
Ning eraldi väljatoodud taimetoidu eelised.
19 June 2016 17:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Racism is Good bro, the one against natural way of life want to destroy you roots with their robotic mindset of not valuing no ones extraordinary speciality
Racism is love of different races, knowledge of different races. And for some who not wise it is Self-assertion, insolence or fear only about different races instead looking if they are good and how, what to learn and share.
You know yourself in Africa, that there is entire clans, possessed and no good for long trust before they all change and others who have been in most part holy and royal, honourable and kind, from ancient times.
Yes, when we interbreed sometimes good child can pop in among evil clan and at times, evil one middle of good. As long one protects self ego over Natures good.. then one is no good, if one wanna help all kind, loves parents and God, then one is good.
Had you time to read my 15 June post forum replay’s from black spirituality forum ?
Racism is love of different races, knowledge of different races. And for some who not wise it is Self-assertion, insolence or fear only about different races instead looking if they are good and how, what to learn and share.
You know yourself in Africa, that there is entire clans, possessed and no good for long trust before they all change and others who have been in most part holy and royal, honourable and kind, from ancient times.
Yes, when we interbreed sometimes good child can pop in among evil clan and at times, evil one middle of good. As long one protects self ego over Natures good.. then one is no good, if one wanna help all kind, loves parents and God, then one is good.
Had you time to read my 15 June post forum replay’s from black spirituality forum ?
19 June 2016 17:40
Margus Meigo replied to David Dickson's comment.
Thank You for appreciating!
As if for even one likes, then am can share more..
As if for even one likes, then am can share more..
19 June 2016 17:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Momendil küll
19 June 2016 17:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Piibel on elus reaalsuste kokkupakke sstüeem näitamaks siin maal toimuvaid mõttesüsteemide käitumisi, tulemusi ja kuidas neid ravida, ennetada
19 June 2016 17:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tema südamik on kõige sügavamalt inimliiki kaitsev kosmiline süsteem mille lihtsusest mitte arusaamiseks peab olema nakatunud sellega, mida see süsteem ravib.
Seega targutada pole mõtet, ravida on vaja.
Vägivalda on ta kõige enam ära hoidnud ja esimene süsteem mis inimliigi väärtuse nii kõrgele tõstis ning andis potensiaalse võimaluse meil päriselt alles jääda, mitte aj augatiselt olendite poolt kasutada, nende oma tarbeks, nagu meie koduloomi kasutame
Vägivald, on nende poolt tekitatud, kes seda arusaama takistada on proovinud, et inimene on väärt leidma armastust
Seega targutada pole mõtet, ravida on vaja.
Vägivalda on ta kõige enam ära hoidnud ja esimene süsteem mis inimliigi väärtuse nii kõrgele tõstis ning andis potensiaalse võimaluse meil päriselt alles jääda, mitte aj augatiselt olendite poolt kasutada, nende oma tarbeks, nagu meie koduloomi kasutame
Vägivald, on nende poolt tekitatud, kes seda arusaama takistada on proovinud, et inimene on väärt leidma armastust
19 June 2016 17:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jup that’s how it is basically, whatever it takes to save the ones tied to a Plato’s Cave ..
but reality is even more worst then this... soft human mind can not take it so we have to tell it nice story by story.. but even this is to much to some... better they want to stay feed by a tube and stay in their movie as long the electricity is given to them ...
most of the zombies prefer to stay eating real dead animal flesh, with all the agony in it, and demand to these animals mass murdered, "because they like taste (they addicted to)" and then demand up to with violence that this have to be looked others who has start to become less zombie, as a normal practice
do i need to go on
but reality is even more worst then this... soft human mind can not take it so we have to tell it nice story by story.. but even this is to much to some... better they want to stay feed by a tube and stay in their movie as long the electricity is given to them ...
most of the zombies prefer to stay eating real dead animal flesh, with all the agony in it, and demand to these animals mass murdered, "because they like taste (they addicted to)" and then demand up to with violence that this have to be looked others who has start to become less zombie, as a normal practice
do i need to go on
19 June 2016 16:57
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
IBM - i am Because i am, Man? ("and kind of like thinking, i think..")
19 June 2016 16:45
Margus Meigo replied to David Dickson's comment.
Thank You
19 June 2016 15:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
19 June 2016 04:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
More even, then the Spear, yes
"Spears of Longinus are technically alive and are even said to have wills of their own. The Spear featured in Evangelion belonged to Adam, whereas Lilith's is believed to have been lost .."
"The Spear may be considered to be a weapon of "god-like" power. N² weapons have enough destructive potential to bring minor to moderate amounts of damage upon some of the weaker Angels; and Evas can use armaments against Angels after nullifying the Angels' A.T. Fields with their own. However, the Spear of Longinus is capable of piercing the active A.T. Field of any Angel or Evangelion, entirely by itself. "
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Spear_of_Longinus
"Spears of Longinus are technically alive and are even said to have wills of their own. The Spear featured in Evangelion belonged to Adam, whereas Lilith's is believed to have been lost .."
"The Spear may be considered to be a weapon of "god-like" power. N² weapons have enough destructive potential to bring minor to moderate amounts of damage upon some of the weaker Angels; and Evas can use armaments against Angels after nullifying the Angels' A.T. Fields with their own. However, the Spear of Longinus is capable of piercing the active A.T. Field of any Angel or Evangelion, entirely by itself. "
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Spear_of_Longinus
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Spear_of_Longinus
19 June 2016 03:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper then any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joint and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart
19 June 2016 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
19 June 2016 03:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
19 June 2016 03:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
19 June 2016 03:34
Margus Meigo replied to Sakunne Svensson's comment.
seega tee ja kohvi joomised ja supid...on suht mitte eriti kasulikud siis ka, hmm... alati arvanud, et inimeste toit peaks alla 40 kraadi jääma.. ja muud asjad mis teeme..
19 June 2016 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
And when is completely dark, You know, one light will always shine!
Also there is a reason why the cross can be looked as like a sword, as it is, multi purpose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HcBdaBgHO8&list=RD9HcBdaBgHO8
Also there is a reason why the cross can be looked as like a sword, as it is, multi purpose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HcBdaBgHO8&list=RD9HcBdaBgHO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HcBdaBgHO8&list=RD9HcBdaBgHO8
19 June 2016 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Important is the part of the tree, what is on the picture, besides the light that comes... Without the trees, there would be no life.
It is also a reason, why it is called LifeTREE, not a life-lump-of-metal or something
It is also a reason, why it is called LifeTREE, not a life-lump-of-metal or something
19 June 2016 02:37
Margus Meigo commented on Getter Salus's photo.
Nii Naine : )
19 June 2016 02:21
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
Oh millised ajad! Teie naeratus on endiselt hindamatu!
19 June 2016 02:14
Margus Meigo commented on Sergio Hz's photo.
thanx Sergio!
19 June 2016 02:12
Margus Meigo commented on Sergio Hz's photo.
Still, nice to remember, we look so proper in there, that can not even imagine, is us...
Probably most nice picture of all squatting history we have had, even bitcoin elite is on and all look elitez (for homeless druggies)
Probably most nice picture of all squatting history we have had, even bitcoin elite is on and all look elitez (for homeless druggies)
19 June 2016 02:11
Margus Meigo commented on Tara Bell's photo.
yo ya get the beard one finally!! :D (Y)
Looking yber positive!
Looking yber positive!
19 June 2016 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on Tara Bell's photo.
Me speak chiiNeedzee!
Muidugi korralik ,vaat kui puhas valge särk on @ Sten H. Vihmar :p
Marko Karin nu kuima siis teadnud vastata oleks, et keegi küsib :D
Ola Fasola behave now!
Erlend :D
Muidugi korralik ,vaat kui puhas valge särk on @ Sten H. Vihmar :p
Marko Karin nu kuima siis teadnud vastata oleks, et keegi küsib :D
Ola Fasola behave now!
Erlend :D
19 June 2016 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on Tara Bell's photo.
haha, i just now first time saw that picture i think!
Thanks tara :D
Thanks tara :D
19 June 2016 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on Free Anakata's photo.
Well.r. fee eneought jet? : )
19 June 2016 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's photo.
this dog looks and feels spiritually creepy.. is am only one getting this feeling ?
19 June 2016 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Mul vend kunagi käis selles kohas.. ja nähes kuidas kamaluga noori hingi sinna koopasse veetakse ja vaimusilmas mis nendega tegelt tehakse nende teadmatta... ütles ta armastava ja mitte vägivaldse rahuliku maa inimesena surmtõsiselt: Sinna tuleks kranaat visata ...
Nu ja näed.. vaimuväel ongi vägi .. kranaate mitmesuguseid!
osati on kahju, et algne sise miljöö jäi salvestamatta... sest see oli nii ime ilusalt proffesionaalne, tõsiselt mugav ja kena, isegi päris looduslikud lilled ja kamalus heade hingedega inimesi, kes avatud südamega end tapalavale viisid vaimusilmas... Ukse sissepääsu jures oli tegelikult väga kena jeesuse pilt ja altar koos küünlaga... ja eks teisel vaimu maailmal oli veel oma ülekaalukas tähendus ja mäng selles kohas, ning kindlasti paljud noored, eri ainete küüsis.. said tunda huvitavate vägede kokkuristumist selles kohas, ning kes hingeei kaotanud,said paremaks
Sest nii me plaanisime, et saaks paremaks.. pannes siinna peale oma arvamuse, mis seal oli, on ja jääb..
Nu ja näed.. vaimuväel ongi vägi .. kranaate mitmesuguseid!
osati on kahju, et algne sise miljöö jäi salvestamatta... sest see oli nii ime ilusalt proffesionaalne, tõsiselt mugav ja kena, isegi päris looduslikud lilled ja kamalus heade hingedega inimesi, kes avatud südamega end tapalavale viisid vaimusilmas... Ukse sissepääsu jures oli tegelikult väga kena jeesuse pilt ja altar koos küünlaga... ja eks teisel vaimu maailmal oli veel oma ülekaalukas tähendus ja mäng selles kohas, ning kindlasti paljud noored, eri ainete küüsis.. said tunda huvitavate vägede kokkuristumist selles kohas, ning kes hingeei kaotanud,said paremaks
Sest nii me plaanisime, et saaks paremaks.. pannes siinna peale oma arvamuse, mis seal oli, on ja jääb..
19 June 2016 01:34
Margus Meigo replied to Anu Anu's comment.
Group: Pühakirjast lähtudes.
Oh oleks peaaegu unustanud, naiste kontsakingad, mukkimine ja enda vastu häbi tudmine kui pole võltsiks värvitud,
meestele peale panemine et nad peaksid habeme ära ajama või juukseid lõikama on saatanlik ja jumalavastane puhtalt ja meestel ka.. kui nad kardavad olla mehed..18 June 2016 23:54
Margus Meigo replied to Anu Anu's comment.
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igasugune jumalasõna korrutamine ja peale teistele panemine, aga ise mitte selle täitmine, ja välja vabandamine, endale valetamine, et "inimesed ongi patused.. eks kõik oleme " ehk oma puuduste välja vabandamine inimese patu loomuse najal on puhtalt deemonlik18 June 2016 23:52
Margus Meigo replied to Anu Anu's comment.
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Lisan veel Anu heale listile Deemonilike ja saatanlike käitumisi juurde, milles inimesed setud on:
lipsu kandmine, raha kummardmaine, pere asemel rahateenimisega aega veetmine, siisnurga teenimine, teleseriaalide vahtimine mis vaimuelu ei edenda, kortermajades üksteise otsaselamine, kiirtoidu söömine, rämps jookide joomine, alkoholi tarbimine üks kõik kui natuke, suitsetamine 100%, laste peksmine ilma südamevaluta ja täis õpetuse ja selgitusega ja kallistusteta hiljem, naise löömine, naisel seksimine sest teine soovib aga ise ei soovi, anaal seks, varastamine, teise naise maha tegemine selle asemel et aidata, kodumaa vastu klatsimine,
ja siis veel natuke keerulisem asi, millest ei saada aru kuna ollakse nii sügavalt jumalavastases maailmas sees suurema osa planeedi poolt tänu Greeka Rooma ja kommunistide tööle, nimelt loodus ravimite ja jumalale ligemale toovate taimede vastu rääkimine ja olemine, nagu psühedeelsed seened ja muud vaimu ravimid, mis ühed pühamad. Kuid see on veel praeguse haridustaseme juures arusaadav, ja elustiili kus ei suvatseta ega julgeta või ei osata uurida mida mis asjad tegelikult tähendavad, mis tulemusi nad toovad (mitte mida propakanda ütleb, kes kardab, et jumalale ligi saad nii..), ehk siis järgi uurida ja näha tõeliselt mis on viljad18 June 2016 23:51
Margus Meigo replied to Anu Anu's comment.
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Kui sellele lingile klikite siis tuleb Jeesusgea Baraziilia pilt..
ja sellel lingil siin, tuleb loodusega võrdväärne pilt: https://goo.gl/yvkFsj
Nüüd kujutage veel Eestlaste puumajad, mis jumalale ühed meelepärasemad on olnud.. ja siis mõelge.. milleks meil oli vaja linna üksteise otsa minna.. sh. usklikud inimesed, ... kõigeelementaarsem.. jumalast füüsiliselt kaugemale minna.. sest kortermajas ju teiste inimeste vaimude keskel.. nende energiad läbi surnud seina sinu tuppa ju ulatuvad iga nurga poolt..
pool kilomeetrit oleks sobilik ikka oma pere energiaringis olla ... kõrvuti olevad majad.. siis juba peab väga hea naaber olema..https://goo.gl/yvkFsj
18 June 2016 23:39
Margus Meigo replied to Anu Anu's comment.
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mida teeb inimene, mida jumal oma looduse ja taimedega juba ei oska ja vajab ?
jah, on asju ehk.. ehk palju, aga kas olete mõelnud, mis need asjad on, millega siis jumal hakkama ei saa, mille jaoks jumalal inimest vaja on siin, sellise kalli hinnaga, kus loodust sin hävitatakse, tema imelise loomingu peal tehakse..
Vaadake neid inimloomingu tippe.. kas need on midagi.. mida jumal soovis? https://goo.gl/u4d1xO
Mis on see perversus üksteise otsaselamine. Looduse tapmine, surnud kiviga asendamine, mis elektrita on kõle surnud kivi, metalli ja plastmassi mass...
Mis ta enne seda sinna loonud olid, kõikide teiste lindudeja loomade maailmad... ja siis need igavad karbid, hallid surnudkivikarbid.. mis veeltagatipuks reostavad salaja kogu maaalusepinna ja mürgitavad õhu..
milleksseda Jumalal vaja oli ?https://goo.gl/u4d1xO
18 June 2016 23:39
Margus Meigo replied to Anu Anu's comment.
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ja kui inimene ei mõista looduse keeli enam siis ei mõista ta ka jumala keeli enam.. ega oska aru saada keda ta tegelikult ja miks teenib..
inimene ikkagi on tulnukas siin ilmas, vaadake mida ülejäänud sajad tuhanded linnud, loomad ja taimed siin teevad.. ja midsa teevad inimesed nende kõrval, ?
ja kas inimesed siis on kasulikumad jumalale, kui kogu muu loodus, mille jaoks ?18 June 2016 23:31
Margus Meigo replied to Anu Anu's comment.
Group: Pühakirjast lähtudes.
Loodan, et Sa siis ei arva, et Judaism on deemonite kätetöö, jumala valitud rahavas ja puha... sest nemad ei tunnista ei kolmainsust ega uut testamenti mis roomalste sõjaväe poolt juurde kirjutati ,et nad jumalapoega ja usku ning aega kontrollida saaksid aastatuhandeid .. .
seega olgem jah, ettevaatlikud neis asjades
Ja rahava lood ja teod on tõelised, siin pole vaja arvata, et tegu on deemonite asjadega, deemnid provivad neid asju unustama panna, et inimesed ei mõistaks enam linnu ega looma keeli..18 June 2016 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
It is mental illness really.
no one in right mind would do it
not even sure how correct one is on the head when shooting the ones who are confused about their sex, there is bether methods ...
no one in right mind would do it
not even sure how correct one is on the head when shooting the ones who are confused about their sex, there is bether methods ...
18 June 2016 19:54
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
Okey this man does look like he has many other offences on hes soul besides driving ...
18 June 2016 19:48
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
Is that proper True thing?
am sure Russians do not like this news..
am sure Russians do not like this news..
18 June 2016 19:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
if i think about gays or Liberals or this sort of things,i do think about black magic and murderous gangs same time, with respect of-course, as killer deserves respect as long they do not act like a bitch and escaping for the responsibility who they are
18 June 2016 19:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this what we do right now with a prisoners, is way more sick and pervertic and unhonest for a good people, who have to pay for that child rapper food every day. Let them make their own food. At best, let criminal brothers and organizations them self send some finance converted in to products to a island. They can send anonymous finance, by bitcoin, with markings what they want gov to send to a island with a what labels, to a them.
Bibles and gentleman guides how to live easily should also be provided, maybe they can even make some infrastructure, and start to send products to a normal world.
But islands should be separated by a most mayor crimes, rappers and killers in one, drug offenders and finance offenders in one, punks for non lethal crimes in one with a some free duty army people showing them some matters, who want to live among them, so they , when returned, know the respect.
It is way cheaper to guard islands, and sharks will take care of most.
Also people then can understand, do they want to be part of civilization or be among the ones who have their own rules.
they should also have mayor vote option, to call for help, if 25% call for help, then army personnel will fly over and reset the order, if someone has made them to high and starting to live well while suppressing other killers. But this option should only be because we love them and teach them, what we do for them what they would not do.
but usually, if a group or gang is made illegal, it should be illegal to be member of it, if gang supports killing, then everyone in there supports it, if someone was forced to be a member, then there is also simple solution that makes them safe fro ma gang and from them self.
Bibles and gentleman guides how to live easily should also be provided, maybe they can even make some infrastructure, and start to send products to a normal world.
But islands should be separated by a most mayor crimes, rappers and killers in one, drug offenders and finance offenders in one, punks for non lethal crimes in one with a some free duty army people showing them some matters, who want to live among them, so they , when returned, know the respect.
It is way cheaper to guard islands, and sharks will take care of most.
Also people then can understand, do they want to be part of civilization or be among the ones who have their own rules.
they should also have mayor vote option, to call for help, if 25% call for help, then army personnel will fly over and reset the order, if someone has made them to high and starting to live well while suppressing other killers. But this option should only be because we love them and teach them, what we do for them what they would not do.
but usually, if a group or gang is made illegal, it should be illegal to be member of it, if gang supports killing, then everyone in there supports it, if someone was forced to be a member, then there is also simple solution that makes them safe fro ma gang and from them self.
18 June 2016 19:43
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
and on the article "If the series of terrorist attacks across America over recent years have proven anything, it is certainly the government's inability to protect American citizens from acts of terror. Thus the call to arms is much more than symbolic; it is a very real reminder that citizens must be ever-vigilant and prepared to confront evil when it comes intent on violence, and the only real path to ensuring one's own survival is to rely on the most powerful deterrent that one can utilize. Those who would emasculate Americans by denying them the right to bear arms are guilty of aiding and abetting evil when it strikes. "
what series of terrorist attacks there have been in USA, really, seriously ?? ?
Can they even dream, what would be if there would be no Big Brother to hold fear in crooks heart and saving millions life’s every month, from organized medicine, teachings, forced trainings and most of all.. removing so many ill plans, that it deserves not to mention, ... just if one can imagine.. what would these groups of gans do if there would be no order at all..
Short list..
Cosa Nostra. Cosa Nostra. ...
Crips. Crips. ...
Wah Ching. Wah Ching. ...
Yakuza. Yakuza. ...
Bloods. Bloods. ...
18th Street Gang. 18th Street Gang. ...
Los Zetas. Los Zetas. ...
Aryan Brotherhood. Aryan Brotherhood... okey they maybe not so large on fear but.. many of them are 30 000 to 70 000 large,
many you need to be killed someone to join..
and hey.. why there is no army intelligence, masonic networks, and all other force, for eliminating or helping them to become better and find some other source of life ? No gang can handle, when we upgrade swat team to a proper army and drive in with tanks, inside our own home, we should be allowed to do with the ones who does not respect... and throw them out.. make new criminal Australia for them.. one for man and one for women.. just drop them there, no punishment besides that... drop them also some psychedelics in bulk... island where some 10 million people can fit.. this should be done to anyone who attacks others life with no aim to stopping other one doing bad.. they should just learn basic farming and doing it like people did 300 years ago. What happens to them can not be more bad then this what they have planned to do or did.
http://list25.com/25-notoriously-dangerous-gangs/
This is just gangs, there is also mafias, the dark ark groups, wichcraft, and many other groups and mindsets that pose by far greater danger then terrorisers... that we invent and help to make by attacking cultures 10 times older then attacker with liberal Roman empire mindset (artificial mindset) and hope them to respect us... while stepping on their holy land and blowing up things that liberal education stops us to understand
of-course just keeping alive dangerous mind, will make world more dirty, as what spirit is in here... is in us... they know many how to travel places...
what series of terrorist attacks there have been in USA, really, seriously ?? ?
Can they even dream, what would be if there would be no Big Brother to hold fear in crooks heart and saving millions life’s every month, from organized medicine, teachings, forced trainings and most of all.. removing so many ill plans, that it deserves not to mention, ... just if one can imagine.. what would these groups of gans do if there would be no order at all..
Short list..
Cosa Nostra. Cosa Nostra. ...
Crips. Crips. ...
Wah Ching. Wah Ching. ...
Yakuza. Yakuza. ...
Bloods. Bloods. ...
18th Street Gang. 18th Street Gang. ...
Los Zetas. Los Zetas. ...
Aryan Brotherhood. Aryan Brotherhood... okey they maybe not so large on fear but.. many of them are 30 000 to 70 000 large,
many you need to be killed someone to join..
and hey.. why there is no army intelligence, masonic networks, and all other force, for eliminating or helping them to become better and find some other source of life ? No gang can handle, when we upgrade swat team to a proper army and drive in with tanks, inside our own home, we should be allowed to do with the ones who does not respect... and throw them out.. make new criminal Australia for them.. one for man and one for women.. just drop them there, no punishment besides that... drop them also some psychedelics in bulk... island where some 10 million people can fit.. this should be done to anyone who attacks others life with no aim to stopping other one doing bad.. they should just learn basic farming and doing it like people did 300 years ago. What happens to them can not be more bad then this what they have planned to do or did.
http://list25.com/25-notoriously-dangerous-gangs/
This is just gangs, there is also mafias, the dark ark groups, wichcraft, and many other groups and mindsets that pose by far greater danger then terrorisers... that we invent and help to make by attacking cultures 10 times older then attacker with liberal Roman empire mindset (artificial mindset) and hope them to respect us... while stepping on their holy land and blowing up things that liberal education stops us to understand
of-course just keeping alive dangerous mind, will make world more dirty, as what spirit is in here... is in us... they know many how to travel places...
http://list25.com/25-notoriously-dangerous-gangs/
18 June 2016 19:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
maybe am overdid with that comment a bit..
18 June 2016 19:11
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
Jim You gotta grow beard, there is still time. Beard helps to think wider calmer final solutions.
But on topic, i think everyone who has interest and licence should have right to carry a bazooka if they feel so, and anyone seeing one with it should know: He got it, because he knows what to do with it, so to help society.
But to give every on ADD medication or on some other drugs and disorders undeveloped kid who is 18 in Walmart a gun, is pure leftist (reversed) agenda. As in their hope, when enough of people are turned anti government then there can come most likely 2 pleasant outcomes for the ones who want to see destruction of America potential.
Liberal agenda is amazingly wide and diverse, in most part it works by pointing out a problem they them self work hard knowingly to make, so they can actually force people to suppress with invented problem some other details they would not be able to point at directly.
There is tens of global scale tools on action 24/7, many knowingly counter-productive for making impossible to see whole picture of Trends source and aims, same time working universities and media spitting out all kind of diverse opposite ideas about anything that is done, but inside most of propaganda inject a bit of that, as a side ,that You want people globally to agree on, subconsciously and consciously.
Like for example, the "left and right" political system, is ALL Left, made to suffocate the last rights there is on the side of left (greener s, human righters, philosophers) and in right (clear empirical thinkers, wealth holders with morals, godly values ). Why we have to hold wrong ideas in same worth level as right ones?
The "capitalist and communist" system is ALL communist system, different versions of slavery for scaring each other, but just do not ask why there is pentagrams and five stars in most of the money system circles and in defence.. Vietnam bombing planes was caring same anti kingdom ideology and pentagrams on their air-planes as the commies they try to stop taking over one of the last strong kingdoms, by dropping there more bombs 4 times over then in world war 2. Oh, communist won, wonder why, kingdom is no more.
The Liberals Greek (pro pederasty) education system is the one on what conservative "Western Culture" stands on, this why communist know, that it is just a matter of time and a joke to think, that opponents have any chance, ever, as long they wear same ties they are assigned to, help to hold the "equal rights" (equal rights to bad and good).. while one side is working on destroying another one and same time hold gun on you telling, you must love them or else. As long we use people as Liberal mind sees: robotic tools for higher aims, just make new ones if needed, force them to do what ideology demands, trick them to do it, make them crawl to do serve and do what for you want them to use, eliminate or suffocate everyone by any means possible who exposes the truth unless you can use their truth and good to advance your agenda.
It is alien really, not human agenda, to look their older wordings and dreams, that now have grown and matured (almost looking cute and good, usable at times), but still have main theme that there is no life on earth besides this what they imagine in their head. But they have to expand that by any means to everywhere and other spaces and planets, as they are afraid, that this is not enough in here and it will end... self-fulfilling prophecy as they agenda would not work if life here would become better to the end and proof that our only mission, is to make everyone’s life in here better, rooting out evil, helping nature to help us to grow us to be more useful for each other and for a god, and what is our destination after this planet is not ours to make, lets trust that to the ones whose job it is and has been.
When we become so smart, to be trusted with that knowledge as whole and that we need to leave planet, we will be let know, but for now, we should focus on reality, that this is our ONLY home with NO NEED to expand, but to learn to be a perfect in here, so if we do have open visitors, they feel pleased to be our quest. They feel worth and respected to stand their borrowed or real body on to our reality and world, and we can show of with profoundness, how well we are grown in to Nature as One (but diverse) and know Our Maker(s) by heart.
Even if it was unfortunate accident, that we did come out first of all, and did come out like that. But we shaved the show, even being as we are and expanding the expectations of the accident makers hopes.
But on topic, i think everyone who has interest and licence should have right to carry a bazooka if they feel so, and anyone seeing one with it should know: He got it, because he knows what to do with it, so to help society.
But to give every on ADD medication or on some other drugs and disorders undeveloped kid who is 18 in Walmart a gun, is pure leftist (reversed) agenda. As in their hope, when enough of people are turned anti government then there can come most likely 2 pleasant outcomes for the ones who want to see destruction of America potential.
Liberal agenda is amazingly wide and diverse, in most part it works by pointing out a problem they them self work hard knowingly to make, so they can actually force people to suppress with invented problem some other details they would not be able to point at directly.
There is tens of global scale tools on action 24/7, many knowingly counter-productive for making impossible to see whole picture of Trends source and aims, same time working universities and media spitting out all kind of diverse opposite ideas about anything that is done, but inside most of propaganda inject a bit of that, as a side ,that You want people globally to agree on, subconsciously and consciously.
Like for example, the "left and right" political system, is ALL Left, made to suffocate the last rights there is on the side of left (greener s, human righters, philosophers) and in right (clear empirical thinkers, wealth holders with morals, godly values ). Why we have to hold wrong ideas in same worth level as right ones?
The "capitalist and communist" system is ALL communist system, different versions of slavery for scaring each other, but just do not ask why there is pentagrams and five stars in most of the money system circles and in defence.. Vietnam bombing planes was caring same anti kingdom ideology and pentagrams on their air-planes as the commies they try to stop taking over one of the last strong kingdoms, by dropping there more bombs 4 times over then in world war 2. Oh, communist won, wonder why, kingdom is no more.
The Liberals Greek (pro pederasty) education system is the one on what conservative "Western Culture" stands on, this why communist know, that it is just a matter of time and a joke to think, that opponents have any chance, ever, as long they wear same ties they are assigned to, help to hold the "equal rights" (equal rights to bad and good).. while one side is working on destroying another one and same time hold gun on you telling, you must love them or else. As long we use people as Liberal mind sees: robotic tools for higher aims, just make new ones if needed, force them to do what ideology demands, trick them to do it, make them crawl to do serve and do what for you want them to use, eliminate or suffocate everyone by any means possible who exposes the truth unless you can use their truth and good to advance your agenda.
It is alien really, not human agenda, to look their older wordings and dreams, that now have grown and matured (almost looking cute and good, usable at times), but still have main theme that there is no life on earth besides this what they imagine in their head. But they have to expand that by any means to everywhere and other spaces and planets, as they are afraid, that this is not enough in here and it will end... self-fulfilling prophecy as they agenda would not work if life here would become better to the end and proof that our only mission, is to make everyone’s life in here better, rooting out evil, helping nature to help us to grow us to be more useful for each other and for a god, and what is our destination after this planet is not ours to make, lets trust that to the ones whose job it is and has been.
When we become so smart, to be trusted with that knowledge as whole and that we need to leave planet, we will be let know, but for now, we should focus on reality, that this is our ONLY home with NO NEED to expand, but to learn to be a perfect in here, so if we do have open visitors, they feel pleased to be our quest. They feel worth and respected to stand their borrowed or real body on to our reality and world, and we can show of with profoundness, how well we are grown in to Nature as One (but diverse) and know Our Maker(s) by heart.
Even if it was unfortunate accident, that we did come out first of all, and did come out like that. But we shaved the show, even being as we are and expanding the expectations of the accident makers hopes.
18 June 2016 19:11
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
Show me a smart man who says man must drink and i tell you why you mistaking
about him being smart.
about him being smart.
18 June 2016 18:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muidugi nii loodusliku japuhta õhuga linnasi kui Eestis on maailmas vähe, kuid vähemalt saame näidata kui hea Teil olema saab kui teil ka nii puhas ja tark maa saab olema...
18 June 2016 17:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid jah, teste igasugusied tehakse samalaadseid kuid palju karmimaid, pidevalt inimestega, .. .kuid kuidas neile ametlik luba saadakse..
annaks ka inimestele pahaaimamatult midagi paremat kui nad loodavad.. ja siis pärast paneks salakesi kirja nende progress ja avaldaks uuringu.. selliseid asju ammu plaaanis olnud..
ja näe.. tehakse avalikult niigi..
annaks ka inimestele pahaaimamatult midagi paremat kui nad loodavad.. ja siis pärast paneks salakesi kirja nende progress ja avaldaks uuringu.. selliseid asju ammu plaaanis olnud..
ja näe.. tehakse avalikult niigi..
18 June 2016 17:42
Margus Meigo replied to Mart Laisk's comment.
jätan meelde, hea nõuanne.
18 June 2016 17:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
asoo, et siis ikkagi polegi asi nii lootusetu, võib tatart keeta küll ja teed
Aga vaadake nüüd kui seinast seina erinevad arusaamad.. et kus see tõde siis on,
Pole ka sünnis öelda ju, et vahepeal..
Ega siin muud üle jää, kui TÜ laboris erinevad vihamd mitu korda üle testida võimaliku ja võimatu osas, ... maksma läheb kuid samas rahustab ja targendab rahvast alatiseks, ning ehk isegi viib teadust edasi.. ja vähendab vaidlusi.
Eriti oluline siis oleks esimene vihm üle pika aja linna ja maa kohal.. ja siis kolme vihamse päeva järel.
Peale mõnda aega räästaaall olles muidugi see vesi juba paar ipäevaga puhtast sogaseks muutub uut peale tulles.. et kas siis puu praht mis ligidal voi mis. Kui puupraht, ega see miskit hullu ka tee, joon puukoore leotist nagunii.
Aga vaadake nüüd kui seinast seina erinevad arusaamad.. et kus see tõde siis on,
Pole ka sünnis öelda ju, et vahepeal..
Ega siin muud üle jää, kui TÜ laboris erinevad vihamd mitu korda üle testida võimaliku ja võimatu osas, ... maksma läheb kuid samas rahustab ja targendab rahvast alatiseks, ning ehk isegi viib teadust edasi.. ja vähendab vaidlusi.
Eriti oluline siis oleks esimene vihm üle pika aja linna ja maa kohal.. ja siis kolme vihamse päeva järel.
Peale mõnda aega räästaaall olles muidugi see vesi juba paar ipäevaga puhtast sogaseks muutub uut peale tulles.. et kas siis puu praht mis ligidal voi mis. Kui puupraht, ega see miskit hullu ka tee, joon puukoore leotist nagunii.
18 June 2016 17:37
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
huumoriga pooleks tahtsin öelda, viimase lause osas, et siis peaks vist pangega lausa jooma, siis saaks rahvaga samale lainele.
kuid see üleolev nali, päris nii muidugi ei mõtle
kuid see üleolev nali, päris nii muidugi ei mõtle
18 June 2016 17:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yes, words in near this order
18 June 2016 17:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
There is more energy in one cube CM then You can use up in Your life, what about that.
You will discover one way or another, when you look back and feel shame about Your beginning..
But not jet, as also no one feel shame about 60Hz computer power that was amazingly supper, it is still looked as fundamental.. that got us here,
but are we, where? Compared to cosmic computing, who knows? Deep Thought perhaps, who makes joke out of Goobleplex
And yes, this who makes computing and the allows reason for it to be possible in first place
You will discover one way or another, when you look back and feel shame about Your beginning..
But not jet, as also no one feel shame about 60Hz computer power that was amazingly supper, it is still looked as fundamental.. that got us here,
but are we, where? Compared to cosmic computing, who knows? Deep Thought perhaps, who makes joke out of Goobleplex
And yes, this who makes computing and the allows reason for it to be possible in first place
18 June 2016 17:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Plants make life as we know it possible. It all starts with the tiny organelles within a plant's leaves, known as chloroplasts."
"he leftover “waste” is the oxygen that we and the rest of the animal kingdom depend on to survive and thrive."
And then they have to say something like:
"But chloroplasts aren't very efficient.
"They generally waste a lot more sunlight than they use; photosynthesis maxes out at roughly 10 percent of the incoming sunshine."
// Perhaps is not waste, but as is needed for their this level of life, as taking a bit of amphetamines is good for some., and taking all bag will burn one out in long run.. or makes one act to fast when is needed to just chill and communicate also... what plants do...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bionic-plants-offer-superpowered-photosynthesis/
"he leftover “waste” is the oxygen that we and the rest of the animal kingdom depend on to survive and thrive."
And then they have to say something like:
"But chloroplasts aren't very efficient.
"They generally waste a lot more sunlight than they use; photosynthesis maxes out at roughly 10 percent of the incoming sunshine."
// Perhaps is not waste, but as is needed for their this level of life, as taking a bit of amphetamines is good for some., and taking all bag will burn one out in long run.. or makes one act to fast when is needed to just chill and communicate also... what plants do...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bionic-plants-offer-superpowered-photosynthesis/
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bionic-plants-offer-superpowered-photosynthesis/
18 June 2016 17:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Did Tesla also not teach You some other simpler ways to pay attention also..
But still Good news..
"One drinking-water bottle could provide enough energy for an entire household in the developing world if Dan Nocera has his way. A chemist from M.I.T. and founder of the company Sun Catalytix, Nocera has developed a cobalt-based catalyst that allows him to store energy the same way plants do: by splitting water."
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/shift-happens-will-artificial-photosynthesis-power-the-world/
But still Good news..
"One drinking-water bottle could provide enough energy for an entire household in the developing world if Dan Nocera has his way. A chemist from M.I.T. and founder of the company Sun Catalytix, Nocera has developed a cobalt-based catalyst that allows him to store energy the same way plants do: by splitting water."
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/shift-happens-will-artificial-photosynthesis-power-the-world/
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/shift-happens-will-artificial-photosynthesis-power-the-world/
18 June 2016 17:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/352/6290/1210
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/352/6290/1210
18 June 2016 17:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bionic-leaf-makes-fuel-from-sunlight/
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bionic-leaf-makes-fuel-from-sunlight/
18 June 2016 17:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and can we imagine all the possibilities for the defence and intelligence industry with these self powered bugs and materials..
""I took air plus sunlight plus water and I made stuff out of it, and I did it 10 times better than nature. That makes me feel good." - Chemist Daniel Nocera of Harvard University
"We think we can do better than plants," says Joseph Torella of Boston Consulting Group.
// Starts to remind me a old soviet slogans in here how humans must concur the nature and suppress it under our machine powers.
There is a road to go wrong here terrible one.. and great heaven to taste, if to make it with respect and understanding, that WE are nature, and Nature uses US to do this... as if the artificial program called human will go to insane, it have to be replaced or let eaten up by "their own" innovations.
Great news, but dangerous slogans, if am spot an arrogance
We have been there, done that, many times over, lost and parallel civilizations is telling.. perhaps ?
""I took air plus sunlight plus water and I made stuff out of it, and I did it 10 times better than nature. That makes me feel good." - Chemist Daniel Nocera of Harvard University
"We think we can do better than plants," says Joseph Torella of Boston Consulting Group.
// Starts to remind me a old soviet slogans in here how humans must concur the nature and suppress it under our machine powers.
There is a road to go wrong here terrible one.. and great heaven to taste, if to make it with respect and understanding, that WE are nature, and Nature uses US to do this... as if the artificial program called human will go to insane, it have to be replaced or let eaten up by "their own" innovations.
Great news, but dangerous slogans, if am spot an arrogance
We have been there, done that, many times over, lost and parallel civilizations is telling.. perhaps ?
18 June 2016 17:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
It would be like master wizard is ignoring a small problem with out feeling it, thinking that this is also one of the ones that will find a solution on the way... but in the end, great part of the potential will fail, over and over again because small ignored fail in wizard own house, that will become part of a big picture for everyone to see, is with out lovable solution,
...so mistakes news will stand out on the light of good with a wondering: "not sure how he did all the other good and big, but one cant be so great, if one is unable to take time and solve something so near, something so eventually easy... "
and the wizard hallow of mysterious perfectness will be gone with respect, except in fans, who blind the reality and proving the point of the positive critics and by it out of nowhere developing new separation, border between generations and mindsets, and if the negative critics now want in lost to turn somewhere, they will find that mistake, and add top of it, making it dirty.
So this will happen if we ignore all the borders, mistakes and differences (differences does often look as a mistakes, or something less good, and can grow in to cracks. But cracks have to be healed, in past, in present and future ones, just in case, pick up the dirty kitten, and when you can at times let the mosquito bite and the fly fly )
...so mistakes news will stand out on the light of good with a wondering: "not sure how he did all the other good and big, but one cant be so great, if one is unable to take time and solve something so near, something so eventually easy... "
and the wizard hallow of mysterious perfectness will be gone with respect, except in fans, who blind the reality and proving the point of the positive critics and by it out of nowhere developing new separation, border between generations and mindsets, and if the negative critics now want in lost to turn somewhere, they will find that mistake, and add top of it, making it dirty.
So this will happen if we ignore all the borders, mistakes and differences (differences does often look as a mistakes, or something less good, and can grow in to cracks. But cracks have to be healed, in past, in present and future ones, just in case, pick up the dirty kitten, and when you can at times let the mosquito bite and the fly fly )
18 June 2016 16:22
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Branson's photo.
True that, but is important to look the divisions, and find out, agree,, what is artificial from whose point of view and why, what can stay what needs to go.
And how,
Usually people just are thought to make half way, just to find a crack and say it must be fixed .. ignoring crack is also not a option, unless one has terrible solution for a fix. Then the fix have to be stopped more then repairing the crack,
up to the day, nature directed solution is found with least amount of final total pain and most amount of healthy beauty.
And how,
Usually people just are thought to make half way, just to find a crack and say it must be fixed .. ignoring crack is also not a option, unless one has terrible solution for a fix. Then the fix have to be stopped more then repairing the crack,
up to the day, nature directed solution is found with least amount of final total pain and most amount of healthy beauty.
18 June 2016 16:08
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Branson's photo.
Something to send home to parents "See, dad, Sir took a selfie with me"
18 June 2016 15:27
Margus Meigo replied to Rob Saice's comment.
well, am sure no one would do that to a Sir right..
18 June 2016 15:26
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Branson's photo.
At least he sleeps @ Work, no at home... next time get him a blanket and ask later on.. if everything is good in home... is the pay al-right..or does he love just the work so much, that like to dream and sleep also in there.
Perhaps just choosing better corner, not taking away other persons sofa..
Perhaps just choosing better corner, not taking away other persons sofa..
18 June 2016 15:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/b/fb6301cc-dc8b-4810-8293-19fe2c700e41
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/b/fb6301cc-dc8b-4810-8293-19fe2c700e41
18 June 2016 15:18
Margus Meigo commented on Mukhtar Mussabetov's post.
(also related word that does come out) undertaker is.. sacristan (matusebüroo ametnik - funeral office servant/officer)
But we also got more modern word called: antreprenöör
But we also got more modern word called: antreprenöör
18 June 2016 15:07
Margus Meigo commented on Mukhtar Mussabetov's post.
In Estonia it is (to)FrontTakker
https://translate.google.com/#auto/et/entrepreneur
https://translate.google.com/#auto/et/entrepreneur
https://translate.google.com/#auto/et/entrepreneur
18 June 2016 15:03
Margus Meigo commented on Mukhtar Mussabetov's post.
18 June 2016 15:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
From the: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027004067339030/1100949496611153/
18 June 2016 14:57
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Otsmann's post.
Group: Aja Aeglustamise Ühing
muidugi teistmoodi hull on pidevalt sunniviisiliselt tõusta siis kui ei soovi,18 June 2016 14:33
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Urb's post.
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Väga huvitava algusega lugemine18 June 2016 13:48
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Krumholts's post.
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Ja mis moodi ta nii saamatu on, et ei saa midagi teha, kes siis saab, ehk meie ?
Ja annab nii täpseid aegu, milleks, mis siis saab?
Aja andmised on meile endale, kuid muidu mis jagasid on hea aj tore.18 June 2016 13:47
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Krumholts's post.
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Piibli ülalt alla poolitamise osas ta täna jagas mulle ka, et mida ma peaks koguduse ees tegema, nimelt poolitama piibli, vana ja uue testamendi vahelt, pooleks tõmbama ja selle mis jumala sõnale lisakspandud on minema viskama tulle, sest nii suur onselle väärtus algse sõna kõrval.
Kõik fantaasia ja lood ja imeteod on nagu televisioon sinna lisaks, enne seda oli aga ajalugu ja käsk ning mõistmine18 June 2016 13:45
Margus Meigo replied to Ines Pärna's comment.
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eip tasu loota, et ta nii kaugel nüüd on, meie ise oleme tast palve kaugusel vast..18 June 2016 13:40
Margus Meigo replied to May Ridaliste's comment.
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kuigi se võis olla pilt kujundlik, et "sada ja sinna otsa edasi.." siis peame ikka arvestama erinevate lugejate tekstide arusaamise ja tõlgendamisega ning vaatama, et pühad asjad pühalt kirja saaks18 June 2016 01:38
Margus Meigo replied to May Ridaliste's comment.
Group: Pühakirjast lähtudes.
palun mitte kirjutada selliseid totraid asju nagu " 120% lise jeesusetaastamise" jms
Jäägem ikka reaalsusesse ja rääkigem ainult seda mis on tõde.
Eks suurem osa inimesi räägib sinna otsa veel kuidas ta ise usub, seda ei saa pahaks panna.. aga veel üle värvima pole mõtet hakata.
Vahest on vähem rohkem18 June 2016 01:37
Margus Meigo replied to Taimi Asu's comment.
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Seda ütlen ka kogu armastuse ja austusega kõikidele kes luterlaste ohvrid, selle liikmed või kes tõsiusklikud liikmed ja hoiavad koguduse vaimu normaalsuses või normaalsuse suunas18 June 2016 01:31
Margus Meigo replied to Taimi Asu's comment.
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Kuid suuremal osal Lutherlastel isegi raske aru saada,et Marthin Luher Luhterlane on palju hullem inimene kui Adolf Hitler, siis pole palju loota, et inimesed sügavalt süübiksid asjade olulisusesse.
Hitler tappis Marthin Luteri opetuste kohaselt küll palju kehasi, mis oli samas Juudiraha sisene puhastus osad rabbid on arvamust avaldanud, sest need kes jumalasõnas targad olid said sõnumi ja lahkusid enne... kuid lutsiferlane luther tegi systeemi, mis pidevalt hoiab sadu millioneid hingi jätkuvas eksiteel ja teisi inimesi usust eemal. Tema systeem raskendab kristlastel päääseda kuhu me vajame, raskendab mehe ja naise vahelist suhet, ja eelkõige rikub kiriku mainet patuste silmis.. sest kui uurima hakate, siis suurem osa pealiskaudseid kriitikaid, on enamasti luterlaste osas... ja ka need rsitimised.. küsid siis inimeselt , et kui sind ristiti mida siis räägiti ja mida targemaks said ja mida nüüd teisimoodi teed, siis suurem osa nõuka ajal ristitud, vastavad: aa ei midagi ,see lihtsalt mingi asi mida oli moeks teha, igaks juhuks...
.... kuid senikaua, kui ülejäänud usud ei julge üles tõusta ja protestantlikud kirikud korrale kutsuda, st seni kuni nadei julge, sest nad ise ka pool patused ja ebakindlad (muidu ju julgeks, hoolivusest ja armastusest)... senikauapole ka suurt loota, et kirikulised ise hakkama saavad maailma korda sättimisega... ja standardid iga aasta langevad, kuni polegi enam midagi langetada.18 June 2016 01:31
Margus Meigo replied to Taimi Asu's comment.
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Algul arvasime, et see on lihtsalt lihtlabane saatana trik, et panna inimesi naiivselt uskuma, et kui nad on pointist aru saanud, ehk "päästetud" et nad siis võivad püksikummi lõdvaks lasta ja rahus edasi elada, aga tuleb välja, et see on hooopis inimese puht enda musta hinge lollus18 June 2016 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Urb's post.
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Ei tea kuidas küll kõik inimesed kakspool tuhat aastat tagasi siis jumalaga ühes olid ja taeva said?18 June 2016 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kogu mu riiete ja muu kraamiga koos mis ara teleporteeriti, oli vana eestlaste kokaraamat, nõuka oma vist pigem, kus koik retseptid raaamatus koosnesid siseorganitest ja verest, suht huvitav oli.. kuid jah, kahjuks see kohver koos palju muuga haistus minema ja inimene kes kraami vedas ka ei mäleta ega tea mis juhtus... hakkas ühest mu kodust teise soitma.. ja siis vahepeal kadusid asjad koos mäluga ära. ise ladusin veel autossse kraami
18 June 2016 01:08
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ei tea, ei usu selle piparde söömise kasulikusesse eriti. Ning sool peaks ka olema orandz, õigem sool.. muidu tegu meelepette ja surmaga mis kehale miskit ei lisa (eks teda seepärast loodusest valja uhataksegi..)
18 June 2016 01:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
õnneks see hakkab nii ka olema kes zombi toitu kindlameelselt syya soovivad. Taimede tapmisegagi juba selline asi.. et vaatan millised taimed sobivad mis mitte..
maavitsalisi ma juba poliitilistel kaalutlustel ei söö, taimepoliitika, taimemaailma mottes... ning lisaks kuna pea 3000 st taimest enamus nende perekonnas on mürgised, ja siis tahetakse uskuda, et muudetud versioon neist taimedest nagu tubakas, kartul, tomat, jms, peaks meile kasulik olema... kahtlane... igatahes taimevaimu maailmal kindlasti oma plaan meid läbi nende taimede dileeriumis hoida, ja dileeriumid.. on enamasti kristallselged reaalsused, unelaadne olek.. millele nende taimede tarbimine KINDLASTI kaasa aitab
(deadly) nightshade and belladonnas..
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maavitsalised
maavitsalisi ma juba poliitilistel kaalutlustel ei söö, taimepoliitika, taimemaailma mottes... ning lisaks kuna pea 3000 st taimest enamus nende perekonnas on mürgised, ja siis tahetakse uskuda, et muudetud versioon neist taimedest nagu tubakas, kartul, tomat, jms, peaks meile kasulik olema... kahtlane... igatahes taimevaimu maailmal kindlasti oma plaan meid läbi nende taimede dileeriumis hoida, ja dileeriumid.. on enamasti kristallselged reaalsused, unelaadne olek.. millele nende taimede tarbimine KINDLASTI kaasa aitab
(deadly) nightshade and belladonnas..
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maavitsalised
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maavitsalised
18 June 2016 00:41
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
18 June 2016 00:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aina põnevamaks läheb, kas siin võib seose tuua ka Veljotorimise rauaneedmise inimloomise loost...
17 June 2016 23:57
Margus Meigo replied to Agnes Kallit's comment.
ning kõikide nende eenmaldamine, kes ebanormaalselt käitub, peaks olema sama lihtne kui näoraamatus inimese blokeerimine. või noh, natuke ehk nõukoguläbi kuid... üldiselt peaks olema lihtne teada, kes on inimese vaenulik ja kes pole
17 June 2016 23:55
Margus Meigo replied to Agnes Kallit's comment.
Nu valitsuse kuulamine on väga positiivne asi, pigem muret teevad need kes ei kuula ega kuule, sest kui nad kuulaksid, siis nad saaksid kohe aru mida räägitakse ja kellele on vaja turpi anda.
Üldiselt valitsuse kuulekas ühiskond on hea ja õige, kuid seda siis kui inimesed teavad, et nad on sinna usaldanud neid , kes neist targemad ja asjalikumad neis asjus, kes teevad seda mida vaja ja seda mida teised ei oskaks.
Üldiselt valitsuse kuulekas ühiskond on hea ja õige, kuid seda siis kui inimesed teavad, et nad on sinna usaldanud neid , kes neist targemad ja asjalikumad neis asjus, kes teevad seda mida vaja ja seda mida teised ei oskaks.
17 June 2016 23:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid yah, Hannes Soo kes veesysteemidega tegelb, ütles jah, et ei ole abi isegi filtritest, et ei saa toiduks kasutada.
Kui just poleks need asjad mis nii salakesi toimivad.. siis ikka kiusatus on suur sellest põdemisest üle saada..
Aga kas seda mürgisust on mõeldud, et kui tihti kasutad, siis on halb, või juba paaristkorrast on halvem kui tavalise rämpstoidu ja linnasaaste sissehingamisel?
Kui just poleks need asjad mis nii salakesi toimivad.. siis ikka kiusatus on suur sellest põdemisest üle saada..
Aga kas seda mürgisust on mõeldud, et kui tihti kasutad, siis on halb, või juba paaristkorrast on halvem kui tavalise rämpstoidu ja linnasaaste sissehingamisel?
17 June 2016 23:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
JUid jah, nende systeemid siis selle aurustmaisega tegelevad http://www.parimvesi.ee/t-distilled-water-facts.html
http://www.parimvesi.ee/t-distilled-water-facts.html
17 June 2016 23:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
On ikka palju mooduseid mida veega tehakse.
http://energoman.ee/vesi
http://energoman.ee/vesi
http://energoman.ee/vesi
17 June 2016 23:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi tehakse igast karme teste ka inimestega..
"Uurijad jagasid igasse kodusse veepuhastusseadme, mis eemaldas veest kõik kahjulikud bakterid.
Teadlased ei öelnud, et ainult pooled katsealused said töökorras veepuhastusmasina.
Perekondade tervislikku seisundit jälgiti aasta jooksul. Leiti, et puhastamata vihmavett joonud ei haigestunud sagedamini kui puhastatud vihmavett või kraanivett joonud.
«Vihmaveeuuring näitas, et haigestumisrisk on minimaalne,» sõnas nakkushaigusi uuriv Karin Leder. "
http://elu24.postimees.ee/183722/vihmavesi-ei-ole-mustem-kui-kraanivesi
"Uurijad jagasid igasse kodusse veepuhastusseadme, mis eemaldas veest kõik kahjulikud bakterid.
Teadlased ei öelnud, et ainult pooled katsealused said töökorras veepuhastusmasina.
Perekondade tervislikku seisundit jälgiti aasta jooksul. Leiti, et puhastamata vihmavett joonud ei haigestunud sagedamini kui puhastatud vihmavett või kraanivett joonud.
«Vihmaveeuuring näitas, et haigestumisrisk on minimaalne,» sõnas nakkushaigusi uuriv Karin Leder. "
http://elu24.postimees.ee/183722/vihmavesi-ei-ole-mustem-kui-kraanivesi
http://elu24.postimees.ee/183722/vihmavesi-ei-ole-mustem-kui-kraanivesi
17 June 2016 23:42
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
väga hea. käisin ka just enne seal kuid need kiriku doc. olid liialt raske lugeda, ei tuld sellepeale, et seda costum otsingut teha, timm.
Nüüd veel mõtlen, kas kedagi on kes seda Naist enda elust ka teab.. ja kuidas mida ta puu külge siduda.
Nüüd veel mõtlen, kas kedagi on kes seda Naist enda elust ka teab.. ja kuidas mida ta puu külge siduda.
17 June 2016 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to Agnes Kallit's comment.
panged räästa all praegu rõõmsalt...
17 June 2016 23:33
Margus Meigo replied to Agnes Kallit's comment.
mul majas polegi kraane, pesukausid ja ämrid on
17 June 2016 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to Agnes Kallit's comment.
oot aga see on ju siis otseses mõttes katastroofiline, kui wesi mis taevast tuleb, on mürgine. siis nagu ülim kriisi olukord ju, sest ega siis kauaks enam midagi järgi ei jää, sest see Jumala poolt viimane puhastus liin oli, mis pidevalt loodust puhta ja tervena on hoidnud.
17 June 2016 23:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ses suhtes ,et enda pesemiseks olen ikka siiamaani kasutanud... ega ta nüüd nii mürgine ka ole ? Või on asi juba radioktiivsuse tasemel varsti :D
Vahest ma arvan, et inimesed kardavad ka loodust liialt..
Vahest ma arvan, et inimesed kardavad ka loodust liialt..
17 June 2016 23:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oot aga mis moodusel seda vett siis toiduks kasutada saab, et mis tehnoloogia odavaim kodus on selleks kui keetmine ei aita.
Uriinist ja mereveest tehakse ka ju joogi vett. ...pole küll mineraalide rikkad aga..
Uriinist ja mereveest tehakse ka ju joogi vett. ...pole küll mineraalide rikkad aga..
17 June 2016 23:28
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Ameeriak Chemtrail gruppides oli nii palju ummaluulut, et ma loobusin nendele tähelepanu pööramast.
Kuna tundub, et ei nõustuta mida miks tehakse, kas inimeste mürgitamiseks (kelle poolt, kelle kaastöö ja miks) või meie kasuks (proovitakse aidata planeedi temp. muuta) või mürgitatakse teatud liike taimi meil ära (kärbseseeni vms).... enamus lennud ju registreeritud ja näha kes kust üles tõusis milliste inimestega,
Sest kui nad asja juures päriselt on kuidas siis nagu pole mingit muud infot ma eriti märganud kui pilte lennukiradadest kes õhku aegade algusest saati pilvetriipe jatnud ja juttu küll ilmamuutus tehnoloogiatest (mille olemasolus, miks seda tehakse pole ka ühele arvamusele saadud)
Kuna tundub, et ei nõustuta mida miks tehakse, kas inimeste mürgitamiseks (kelle poolt, kelle kaastöö ja miks) või meie kasuks (proovitakse aidata planeedi temp. muuta) või mürgitatakse teatud liike taimi meil ära (kärbseseeni vms).... enamus lennud ju registreeritud ja näha kes kust üles tõusis milliste inimestega,
Sest kui nad asja juures päriselt on kuidas siis nagu pole mingit muud infot ma eriti märganud kui pilte lennukiradadest kes õhku aegade algusest saati pilvetriipe jatnud ja juttu küll ilmamuutus tehnoloogiatest (mille olemasolus, miks seda tehakse pole ka ühele arvamusele saadud)
17 June 2016 23:26
Margus Meigo replied to Agnes Kallit's comment.
Oot kas ta siis on nagu mürgine tänapäeva pärast, ka Eestis või nagu on alati olnud ta ebatervislik pigem?
17 June 2016 23:17
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Ma sellepärast motlesingi, et kui ta paar päeva tulnud on, et siis ehk nagu tervislikum...
17 June 2016 23:15
Margus Meigo replied to Agnes Kallit's comment.
Tänud. Poleks arvanud, et asi nii hull on
17 June 2016 23:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
oi sa kurat küll,
17 June 2016 23:14
Margus Meigo replied to Sakunne Svensson's comment.
persse ja tagumikku.. mis vahe sellel nüüd on, üks on kenam sona aint
17 June 2016 16:44
Margus Meigo commented on Margus von Einmann's post.
siin kaks võimalust, kas nad pole päris normaalsed, või nad on Päris normaalsed,
17 June 2016 16:42
Margus Meigo commented on Margus von Einmann's post.
Mure on pigem, ka selles, et suur osa Eestlasi ei oska süüa ega ei müista mida ja kuidas on vaja süüa, et hakkama saada.
ostetakse liha, igast rämpsu, alkoholi ja suitsu ja siis virisetakse, et raha vähe.
ostetakse liha, igast rämpsu, alkoholi ja suitsu ja siis virisetakse, et raha vähe.
17 June 2016 16:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
they had to remove them to keep history illusions in place. .as with internet time.. it was dangers, that they will start sooner or later, their children.. to share in social media, about their ancient knowledge and facts about how it really was
17 June 2016 16:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/peruvian-government-shelves-investigation-into-massive-forced-sterilization
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/peruvian-government-shelves-investigation-into-massive-forced-sterilization
17 June 2016 16:17
Margus Meigo commented on Cka Jordan's post.
1995 to 2000 Liberals explained, that it was "Ok" to kill and forcefully eliminate, steralize last near 250 000 to 350 000 Peru native women s by their own legal democratic government as it was economically good move,as they was poor. So if they sterilize poor the economy will rise they argued, (nicer word for genocide, as then there is no trace left in history, that it was done, no mass graves or nothing)
Typical Liberal robotic logic .
these was last natives left from in ancient Peru who know the maya and aztec culture personally. The only oldest culture we had trace and proof so much, from where great part of our science and religion come from.
They had system of preserving ancient stories related to handwork.. and i guess this will be now gone in next 50 years as they forcefully sterilized nearly all certain kind of Peru people who know old culture.
LEGALLY !
https://www.pop.org/content/once-and-future-tragedy-india%E2%80%99s-sterilization-campaign-39-years-later
Typical Liberal robotic logic .
these was last natives left from in ancient Peru who know the maya and aztec culture personally. The only oldest culture we had trace and proof so much, from where great part of our science and religion come from.
They had system of preserving ancient stories related to handwork.. and i guess this will be now gone in next 50 years as they forcefully sterilized nearly all certain kind of Peru people who know old culture.
LEGALLY !
https://www.pop.org/content/once-and-future-tragedy-india%E2%80%99s-sterilization-campaign-39-years-later
https://www.pop.org/content/once-and-future-tragedy-india%E2%80%99s-sterilization-campaign-39-years-later
17 June 2016 16:11
Margus Meigo commented on Cka Jordan's post.
send it here for starters Benji
17 June 2016 16:03
Margus Meigo commented on Cka Jordan's photo.
did someone die, why ?
17 June 2016 16:01
Margus Meigo commented on Cka Jordan's post.
Who are they and from where is they from ?
17 June 2016 15:59
Margus Meigo commented on Cka Jordan's post.
is this possible to be real or is that a Adobe Photoshops or .. man really makes my case protecting gov much harder... why these guys make it so hard for me to make semi intelligent case for them... seriously. .
17 June 2016 15:59
Margus Meigo commented on Cka Jordan's post.
hahahahah :D
17 June 2016 15:57
Margus Meigo replied to Davey Granules's comment.
So what is Soviet?
17 June 2016 15:54
Margus Meigo replied to Davey Granules's comment.
Life is that mission that we take part of to help god cleanse the world from Evil.
17 June 2016 15:54
Margus Meigo commented on Cka Jordan's photo.
well ya look a bit like Amir Taaki there
17 June 2016 15:53
Margus Meigo commented on Cka Jordan's post.
Japanese Animation, mostly from all products from same studio that made Moving Castle and Princess Monokae are good
17 June 2016 15:53
Margus Meigo commented on Cka Jordan's photo.
keep the hair growing, beard also... and now.. when ya tripping in woods ya get much deeper insight : )
also, people bother you less (their criticism bother you less, physically they might come to bother you more but hey.. its their disorder )
true fact
also, people bother you less (their criticism bother you less, physically they might come to bother you more but hey.. its their disorder )
true fact
17 June 2016 15:51
Margus Meigo commented on Cka Jordan's post.
its cunilingus
17 June 2016 15:49
Margus Meigo commented on Margus von Einmann's post.
seda olevist oleks tahtnud päris elus oma silmaga kõndimas naha, ega videot temast pole
F.Jussile ka saata
F.Jussile ka saata
17 June 2016 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on Margus von Einmann's post.
Okey sain eelmiste posituste peale naeru hoitud kuni siiamaani.
17 June 2016 15:39
Margus Meigo commented on Amanda Feilding's post.
We in Our reports should not use "could" as .. it shows for people as thousands of other things, headlined "could" .. but rather "will" or even "should..." or "can"... just a thought.. as people will put so important God medicine to a same line with a ordinary pharma and empty rituals
17 June 2016 14:39
Margus Meigo replied to Cka Jordan's comment.
yeah, they could use them to shoot bananas,as bill hick told
or something
or something
17 June 2016 02:44
Margus Meigo replied to Davey Granules's comment.
what is soviet?
17 June 2016 02:43
Margus Meigo commented on Uve Järv's post.
suht veider on see, et kui inimesed looma laipu peenutsedes peenelt hakivad ja tulega kõrvetavad, et siis nagu tegu peaks normaalsem kuidagi olema võrreldes sellega kui keegi oma kassi mikrouuni paneb.. kassi piinad arvatvasti kokku on isegi väiksemad võrreldes elu ja valuga mida need loomad enne mõrva taluma pidid lootusetuses..
17 June 2016 00:03
Margus Meigo commented on Uve Järv's post.
monele ika meeldib rohkem kui mingi raibe suus lehkab,
surnud või mõrvatud looma laiba ihu on ju raipe liha või kuidas seda nimetati..
surnud või mõrvatud looma laiba ihu on ju raipe liha või kuidas seda nimetati..
17 June 2016 00:01
Margus Meigo commented on Alvin Kobin's post.
it can be look 2 ways,
as if one just sit around all looks simplified.. if one wonders and explores the world then colors will be in more interesting combinations.. : )
as if one just sit around all looks simplified.. if one wonders and explores the world then colors will be in more interesting combinations.. : )
16 June 2016 23:56
Margus Meigo commented on Alvin Kobin's post.
USA valitsus hakkab LSDs väljaspoole usat exportima ja siin katsetama
16 June 2016 23:52
Margus Meigo commented on Alvin Kobin's post.
wau, tuus
16 June 2016 23:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
so yes..16 June 2016 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on Silvi Poom's post.
Group: Silviine ( videod -lemmik ---muusika )
Kuid samas vist tubli, et meil üldse kedagi on kes midagi räägib. kuid samas ,pidage meeles,et samasuguste silutud poiste näol meie riik meilt just ära võetigi..16 June 2016 23:41
Margus Meigo commented on Silvi Poom's post.
Group: Silviine ( videod -lemmik ---muusika )
Trgrlsnr nii noor ja juba kannab lipsu.. või ütleks, et endiselt kannab lipsu.. seega ei saa kahjuks ka temast enne midagi tulla, kui ta Eestlase moodi riides käima hakkab, mitte nagu kutsikas välismaa ketiotsas (lips, mis arvate milleks see on ja sellega seonduv?)16 June 2016 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on Seppo Kanerva's post.
Why they brainwash us to think, that he cut hes beard ?
What next, Jesus with a tie and suit or as a skinhead pehaps ?
What next, Jesus with a tie and suit or as a skinhead pehaps ?
16 June 2016 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on Seppo Kanerva's post.
For sure if Youare good
16 June 2016 23:38
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Ansip's post.
ei milleks.
16 June 2016 23:37
Margus Meigo commented on Philips Carter's photo.
and am thought it gets better by change,
comes out, that change instead is needed,
But must be careful as some most important things around us are better because they remain same, .... like mountain will stay good mountain when it will stay so not by changing in to a lake, even if it is best lake, the use that was for mountain is no more
comes out, that change instead is needed,
But must be careful as some most important things around us are better because they remain same, .... like mountain will stay good mountain when it will stay so not by changing in to a lake, even if it is best lake, the use that was for mountain is no more
16 June 2016 19:19
Margus Meigo replied to Richard Tomalin's comment.
sport is one of the main tools to control people and to confuse their brain about what is important..
if human would just for a moment think .. and realize, this energy sucking technology .. to look at it.. and to spend emotions on it how fast someone run or play.. and they not even Your friends or nothing... not even intellectuals, artists or nothing, just someone who RUN or play ball fast.. robots can do that... people with a evil heart can do that... what is the point to spend on it... when you can read about new plants, use weed, cuddle with a partner... learn new things.. look some movies that matter.. but most of all helping to remove this retarded thing from a news!!!
There is something important in news.. and then they report how fast someone play or run, are we totally lost our minds, IN A NATIONAL NEWS; a sport ?????
What does it matter for a world, how fast someone races in artificial track or how fast someone swim if it is only few seconds more then last years?
Would understand that someone, will run or do something 1/3 faster then the fastest, then, out of kindness, under entertainment light news, it can be... but as long they play sport events in ordinary news and people wear ties, You can be SURE, you are still controlled and manipulated.
Spiritualist say sport events are alien energy sucking system, to suck locally and globally. Music events also but the biggest, and most useful is the sport events for the needed range and mass organized sucking that you can count regularly about the ones who are addicted.
if human would just for a moment think .. and realize, this energy sucking technology .. to look at it.. and to spend emotions on it how fast someone run or play.. and they not even Your friends or nothing... not even intellectuals, artists or nothing, just someone who RUN or play ball fast.. robots can do that... people with a evil heart can do that... what is the point to spend on it... when you can read about new plants, use weed, cuddle with a partner... learn new things.. look some movies that matter.. but most of all helping to remove this retarded thing from a news!!!
There is something important in news.. and then they report how fast someone play or run, are we totally lost our minds, IN A NATIONAL NEWS; a sport ?????
What does it matter for a world, how fast someone races in artificial track or how fast someone swim if it is only few seconds more then last years?
Would understand that someone, will run or do something 1/3 faster then the fastest, then, out of kindness, under entertainment light news, it can be... but as long they play sport events in ordinary news and people wear ties, You can be SURE, you are still controlled and manipulated.
Spiritualist say sport events are alien energy sucking system, to suck locally and globally. Music events also but the biggest, and most useful is the sport events for the needed range and mass organized sucking that you can count regularly about the ones who are addicted.
16 June 2016 15:08
Margus Meigo replied to Richard Tomalin's comment.
lol, i think watching sport s will be classified as mental illness by DMS probably in future , if would will go alrght
16 June 2016 14:58
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Strode's comment.
lol
16 June 2016 14:56
Margus Meigo commented on Cka Jordan's photo.
You do know, it is tool for murdering people right.. .. sometimes they even give guns for play that has been murdered with many people..
16 June 2016 14:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mXjg4q8VTg
And the link that is blocked for security reasons: it was legit block this time to protect you from fake domain.
More in here: http://www.sorcerousendeavors.com/sorcery-blog/the-death-of-evocationmagiccom
http://forums.vsociety.net/
http://studioarcanis.com/
Just for a small sample of how serious information is out there.. available.. and how much work it needs.. to help to manage it all.. and what potential it is Now.. first time.. with machines.. to help to sync and calm all the practisoners.. to help them with information they need to be safe.. the new ones..
Help the ones to not end up as food who does not need to.. and regulate the rest with insightful words..
As You see. .. proper spiritual smart people, dark or not.. will spend no time on wondering IF there is if there is for sure,
..
And the link that is blocked for security reasons: it was legit block this time to protect you from fake domain.
More in here: http://www.sorcerousendeavors.com/sorcery-blog/the-death-of-evocationmagiccom
http://forums.vsociety.net/
http://studioarcanis.com/
Just for a small sample of how serious information is out there.. available.. and how much work it needs.. to help to manage it all.. and what potential it is Now.. first time.. with machines.. to help to sync and calm all the practisoners.. to help them with information they need to be safe.. the new ones..
Help the ones to not end up as food who does not need to.. and regulate the rest with insightful words..
As You see. .. proper spiritual smart people, dark or not.. will spend no time on wondering IF there is if there is for sure,
..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mXjg4q8VTg
16 June 2016 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Bro. George, I can't even count the amount of books I've lent to people that they just refuse to give back! "Behold a Pale Horse" has been missing for years now. "Third Eye" is one of those books you have to own.
And here is some more food for the 3rd eye, for those interested in learning the differences between invocation and "evocation" something I often confuse myself but not on purpose.
Evocation vs. Invocation
With invocation the spirit in question is invoked into your circle or temple. No protective devises are used against it, and it is done by request, not force. This also may happen unintentionally when a god is addressed in prayer or other devotional practices and decides to talk back.
With evocation however the spirit is summoned by force or by request, using various god names and magical words. The spirit is then forced or channeled to appear inside a device specially made for this purpose, mostly a round black mirror mounted in a triangle with various god names written on the sides of the triangle. This evokes the spirit inside the round black mirror and the triangle imprisons the spirit within it. Then you can ask the spirit to do your bidding.
This "device" spoken of here is actually the avatar I use on Destee. Not by coincidence of course.
And here is some more food for the 3rd eye, for those interested in learning the differences between invocation and "evocation" something I often confuse myself but not on purpose.
Evocation vs. Invocation
With invocation the spirit in question is invoked into your circle or temple. No protective devises are used against it, and it is done by request, not force. This also may happen unintentionally when a god is addressed in prayer or other devotional practices and decides to talk back.
With evocation however the spirit is summoned by force or by request, using various god names and magical words. The spirit is then forced or channeled to appear inside a device specially made for this purpose, mostly a round black mirror mounted in a triangle with various god names written on the sides of the triangle. This evokes the spirit inside the round black mirror and the triangle imprisons the spirit within it. Then you can ask the spirit to do your bidding.
This "device" spoken of here is actually the avatar I use on Destee. Not by coincidence of course.
16 June 2016 02:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Bro. GeorgeM, you've reminded me that I need to purchase her book and read it.
I've enjoyed listening to the "Mother of the Matrix" during all of her interviews, her mind is brilliant and worth all the attention Hollywood has denied her. I was hoping she'd get the right investors to fund the production of "The Third Eye" - but we already know how that one is going.
Queen Heart, I bet your poetic voice sends tremors through the house. I've always felt that singing for Black people is a strong medium to invoke spirits and even our inner force. When I was younger there was a time when I couldn't go to bed without listening to Aretha Franklin or Whitney Houston first, it was as if their voices made me feel safe. Perhaps because I felt safe inside the womb and my Mother often sang to me.
Sometimes a Woman's sexual creative energy is revealed in the way she walks, cooks and speaks. This emotional power is present in her song as well. I've heard stories from the Brothas about Sistahs who sing in the choir.
I didn't say I knew anything about it, I said I've heard stories.
Now how many of these folks went home and conceived babies after Fantasia spilled her invocations on them? "
https://youtu.be/O-YQoFu4Lao
I've enjoyed listening to the "Mother of the Matrix" during all of her interviews, her mind is brilliant and worth all the attention Hollywood has denied her. I was hoping she'd get the right investors to fund the production of "The Third Eye" - but we already know how that one is going.
Queen Heart, I bet your poetic voice sends tremors through the house. I've always felt that singing for Black people is a strong medium to invoke spirits and even our inner force. When I was younger there was a time when I couldn't go to bed without listening to Aretha Franklin or Whitney Houston first, it was as if their voices made me feel safe. Perhaps because I felt safe inside the womb and my Mother often sang to me.
Sometimes a Woman's sexual creative energy is revealed in the way she walks, cooks and speaks. This emotional power is present in her song as well. I've heard stories from the Brothas about Sistahs who sing in the choir.
I didn't say I knew anything about it, I said I've heard stories.
Now how many of these folks went home and conceived babies after Fantasia spilled her invocations on them? "
https://youtu.be/O-YQoFu4Lao
https://youtu.be/O-YQoFu4Lao
16 June 2016 02:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"ALSO interesting you said this as well....I was flipping channels and came acrosss that movie recently and when that scene came I thought to myself "how MANY people are aware of what that kid just did when this movie came out??".....and also the woman also says "he would project himself astrally".....I see so much spirituality in these movies nowadays or rather I am just aware of it alot more than ever before.....like the matrix movies the more I see any of them the more I get out of them......have you ever read the third eye by sophia stewart?.... "
16 June 2016 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Speaking of that GeorgeM, I was looking at "The Golden Child" just recently, funny that I didn't notice just how esoteric this movie is. I know I noticed the science in the poster of the movie, but there is mention of the Golden Child's ability to astral travel - at one point in the movie, while locked in a cage the Golden Child projects himself outside Eddie's window and manifests a bird. The scene somehow reminded me of Malcolm X's story about Elijah Muhammad coming to him in a vision while he was in jail, but in certain cases the story is told as if Elijah projected himself astrally into his cell.
The awareness is rising among our people, and fast. What is said about the years 2012-13 might very well be true. Last night I dreamt about a tidal wave taking out the east coast. I feels very possible, and they say right before events like these happen, the spirit starts making preparations for it's departure "apartment shopping" for it's next place of residence. !
The awareness is rising among our people, and fast. What is said about the years 2012-13 might very well be true. Last night I dreamt about a tidal wave taking out the east coast. I feels very possible, and they say right before events like these happen, the spirit starts making preparations for it's departure "apartment shopping" for it's next place of residence. !
16 June 2016 02:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Sis. Jai, I find that very interesting, you are the 2nd person today that has mentioned to me that they are having dreams about parallel universes all of a sudden. We have the ability to visit our different selves through dreams and astral experiences.
However we are not always conscious of it because that person you might think is another character in the dream or astral might very well be you.
If you find it hard to write your feelings the best way is through singing, or speaking outloud what you are feeling. You'd be surprise how effective it is, even though people who speak out loud to themselves are often called crazy. Yet there is a call and response method that is practiced in meditation, you speak a feeling outloud or intent, and you will feel the response from within, it usually takes place in the heart chakra era, or just below.
Singing is not only good for you health wise but it raises your chi, ase energy which helps us to open up to the spirit world more effectively.
Which is also a reason why some of the best African singers are very spiritual or even religious, in our case religion is used to help us deal with the spirits we attract through our artistry. Some of the most powerful invocations are actually not spoken or even written down but sung and transferred orally from generation to generation. "
However we are not always conscious of it because that person you might think is another character in the dream or astral might very well be you.
If you find it hard to write your feelings the best way is through singing, or speaking outloud what you are feeling. You'd be surprise how effective it is, even though people who speak out loud to themselves are often called crazy. Yet there is a call and response method that is practiced in meditation, you speak a feeling outloud or intent, and you will feel the response from within, it usually takes place in the heart chakra era, or just below.
Singing is not only good for you health wise but it raises your chi, ase energy which helps us to open up to the spirit world more effectively.
Which is also a reason why some of the best African singers are very spiritual or even religious, in our case religion is used to help us deal with the spirits we attract through our artistry. Some of the most powerful invocations are actually not spoken or even written down but sung and transferred orally from generation to generation. "
16 June 2016 02:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Are we able to invoke our other selfs that are in different/another parallel universe? Or am I misunderstood by the whole parallel universe thing, which I dont know nothing about (something :new: to me).
I have been having dreams about being in different worlds where I would rescue blk folks, well only two so far. In one dream I had came across a place that was being destroyed by huge robots and there was fire every where. There was no life any where until I came upon a black family. A robot turned around, spotted us then came after us. I just remember holding up my hand and this blue beam covered us and we escaped to my world. Strangely that world was the pic (Meta) had made of me:
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And there were a bunch of people that look like us we took refuge there.
Maybe this is just my imagination lol?
I have a hard time of verbalizing these things, lol, so I wont take the time to type the other dream. I wish I could paint the images that I see.
I just find it hard to express my self in words. "
I have been having dreams about being in different worlds where I would rescue blk folks, well only two so far. In one dream I had came across a place that was being destroyed by huge robots and there was fire every where. There was no life any where until I came upon a black family. A robot turned around, spotted us then came after us. I just remember holding up my hand and this blue beam covered us and we escaped to my world. Strangely that world was the pic (Meta) had made of me:
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And there were a bunch of people that look like us we took refuge there.
Maybe this is just my imagination lol?
I have a hard time of verbalizing these things, lol, so I wont take the time to type the other dream. I wish I could paint the images that I see.
I just find it hard to express my self in words. "
16 June 2016 02:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Bro. Darkside! Deep info about the "The Sith" - I know a fellow designer about two days ago he was searching for an image of Obama with Sen. Ted Kennedy, and remember him looking at it- focusing on Kennedy and saying "doesn't he look like a reptile??!!" A few days later in the news I heard Kennedy suffered a stroke.
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I told him he was the one who did it, somehow releasing that "darkside magic" on poor innocent Ted Kennedy, who probably didn't know what or "who" hit him. Or perhaps it was just mere coincidence.
But again, it is our "morality" that restricts our powers. Now you hear Black folks complaining all the time about how Whites have done this and that, but will grow angry if anyone would dare use any type of power like this against established powers. Perhaps they would coin a phrase for them, calling them "darkside terrorists."
This is my own theory, but I truly believe there are a great deal of Black folks who protect white folks on a psychic/astral level, even the ones who say Whites should disappear from the planet feed into etheric fields with their faith focus. I've noticed that there are so many Black folks who speak against religion, yet they've made the study of White Supremacy their religion- and if you navigate the astral realms well enough, you start seeing them in some secret sect of admiration and worship for "light" spirits. Claiming to be black, but not really understanding what that means when you are spirit without flesh. But I know they've thought about it, because they're smart enough to calculate the logic.
I always say I understand both the Jedi and the Sith, as they both narrate what we Africans have done with our powers so far on this planet. I think of myself as the little owl, observing everything from a branch- constantly asking the question "who."
Who keeps hiding our knowledge, especially when it pertains to a more powerful source- dark matter and energy? And why are they hiding it? Why are we told so much about white light instead of dark energy? Why we are told so much about Jesus Christ and yet stories about Simeon Toko and even Sai Baba of India are not as popular in America's realm. Obviously there are reasons why the darker sciences are hidden and covered up and taught to us as being evil.
There has to be a reason, or else why go through all the trouble? And so when we question this, it's not a matter of which is right, lightside or darkside- it then becomes a matter of why are the rulers of the world limiting our spiritual progress by concealing knowledge of certain things while promoting others. Because to use dark or light energy should come down to the choice of the user.
They sell us fast cars so they can charge us heavy fines for speeding, these rulers will promote anything that benefits them, so called good or evil has very little to do with it. Black folks having full knowledge of their ability does not benefit them, which is why we should look into those things they try to warn us against.
Lite16, what makes other prayers seem more powerful than others, especially the traditional ones that we learn from our scriptures and modern religions is that these prayers are "collective chants" that have been kept in memory by millions of people over many generations. Some types of prayers are so popular that if you recite one right now you can be sure that a handful of people on the planet are reciting at the same time along with you.
There is nothing wrong with collective prayers, as they help to build a union- and unity with others on a psychic level- and actually in most cases this is where prayers draw their power from.
There is a debate about how powerful a prayer in English can be for example compared to a prayer in Hebrew, Swahili, or any native tongue much older than the English language. Which is why I will say the prayer of your own personal design will work better for you, this is because spoken and written language only attempts to hold the charge of our intent and is not always perfect.
To prove this, there is sarcasm and comedy in the bible that most people are misreading because they cannot decode the sarcasm or comedy through the translation. Humor written may years ago to tickle the ribs of fellow Men and Women are now read for face value because we are unable to read the intent of the speaker.
We often read intent by reading the facial features of the speaker as well as the "tone" of their voice. Perhaps if the bible had smilies ---->
misreading wouldn't be a problem.
And this is why your prayer will be more powerful, because you are clear about your intent. The same words do not mean the same things for everyone, this is true regardless of what language you speak. And beyond spoken and written language the universal language between all people and spirits is music. The spoken word is a form of music whose notes can be tweaked to convey different patterns of sound, this is why all instruments simply mimic the human voice. Yet our spoken word is framed too often by our language, and it's good to babble now and again, as babies too- that is the true ancient tongue. Those who claim to be possessed by the holy spirit are simply babbling as babies.
If you allow your spirit to speak it will babble, it will sound strange to you. In fact, I recorded a few of mine and it sounds like some ancient African language. If I just allow my spirit to speak, it will not speak English but it does speak a language strange to my ear very fluidly. These are the prayers we should record, use and sing- if you hold your intent in your mind and just allow your spirit to speak you will recieve a prayer more powerful for you than anything that has been written by Man. "
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I told him he was the one who did it, somehow releasing that "darkside magic" on poor innocent Ted Kennedy, who probably didn't know what or "who" hit him. Or perhaps it was just mere coincidence.
But again, it is our "morality" that restricts our powers. Now you hear Black folks complaining all the time about how Whites have done this and that, but will grow angry if anyone would dare use any type of power like this against established powers. Perhaps they would coin a phrase for them, calling them "darkside terrorists."
This is my own theory, but I truly believe there are a great deal of Black folks who protect white folks on a psychic/astral level, even the ones who say Whites should disappear from the planet feed into etheric fields with their faith focus. I've noticed that there are so many Black folks who speak against religion, yet they've made the study of White Supremacy their religion- and if you navigate the astral realms well enough, you start seeing them in some secret sect of admiration and worship for "light" spirits. Claiming to be black, but not really understanding what that means when you are spirit without flesh. But I know they've thought about it, because they're smart enough to calculate the logic.
I always say I understand both the Jedi and the Sith, as they both narrate what we Africans have done with our powers so far on this planet. I think of myself as the little owl, observing everything from a branch- constantly asking the question "who."
Who keeps hiding our knowledge, especially when it pertains to a more powerful source- dark matter and energy? And why are they hiding it? Why are we told so much about white light instead of dark energy? Why we are told so much about Jesus Christ and yet stories about Simeon Toko and even Sai Baba of India are not as popular in America's realm. Obviously there are reasons why the darker sciences are hidden and covered up and taught to us as being evil.
There has to be a reason, or else why go through all the trouble? And so when we question this, it's not a matter of which is right, lightside or darkside- it then becomes a matter of why are the rulers of the world limiting our spiritual progress by concealing knowledge of certain things while promoting others. Because to use dark or light energy should come down to the choice of the user.
They sell us fast cars so they can charge us heavy fines for speeding, these rulers will promote anything that benefits them, so called good or evil has very little to do with it. Black folks having full knowledge of their ability does not benefit them, which is why we should look into those things they try to warn us against.
Lite16, what makes other prayers seem more powerful than others, especially the traditional ones that we learn from our scriptures and modern religions is that these prayers are "collective chants" that have been kept in memory by millions of people over many generations. Some types of prayers are so popular that if you recite one right now you can be sure that a handful of people on the planet are reciting at the same time along with you.
There is nothing wrong with collective prayers, as they help to build a union- and unity with others on a psychic level- and actually in most cases this is where prayers draw their power from.
There is a debate about how powerful a prayer in English can be for example compared to a prayer in Hebrew, Swahili, or any native tongue much older than the English language. Which is why I will say the prayer of your own personal design will work better for you, this is because spoken and written language only attempts to hold the charge of our intent and is not always perfect.
To prove this, there is sarcasm and comedy in the bible that most people are misreading because they cannot decode the sarcasm or comedy through the translation. Humor written may years ago to tickle the ribs of fellow Men and Women are now read for face value because we are unable to read the intent of the speaker.
We often read intent by reading the facial features of the speaker as well as the "tone" of their voice. Perhaps if the bible had smilies ---->
misreading wouldn't be a problem.
And this is why your prayer will be more powerful, because you are clear about your intent. The same words do not mean the same things for everyone, this is true regardless of what language you speak. And beyond spoken and written language the universal language between all people and spirits is music. The spoken word is a form of music whose notes can be tweaked to convey different patterns of sound, this is why all instruments simply mimic the human voice. Yet our spoken word is framed too often by our language, and it's good to babble now and again, as babies too- that is the true ancient tongue. Those who claim to be possessed by the holy spirit are simply babbling as babies.
If you allow your spirit to speak it will babble, it will sound strange to you. In fact, I recorded a few of mine and it sounds like some ancient African language. If I just allow my spirit to speak, it will not speak English but it does speak a language strange to my ear very fluidly. These are the prayers we should record, use and sing- if you hold your intent in your mind and just allow your spirit to speak you will recieve a prayer more powerful for you than anything that has been written by Man. "
16 June 2016 02:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Starwars .. " cHAOS
"The Sith and the Jedi are similar in almost every way, including their quest for greater power. The only difference between the two is that the Sith are not afraid of the dark side of the Force. That is why they are more powerful."
"The Sith rely on their passion for their strength. They think inwards only about themselves."
"And the Jedi do not?"
Sith philosophy emphasized conflict. The Sith believed that it empowered both individuals and civilizations by forcing them to change, grow, and evolve. Conflict ensured that only the strong would survive, thus leading the Sith down the path to perfection. Sentients only deserved what they were strong enough to take and those too weak to protect themselves were fair game.
The pacifistic teachings of the Jedi were viewed as obstructions to progress; lack of conflict led only to stagnation and decline. Likewise, morality was treated as an obstacle to be overcome as it got in the way of a Sith's ability to recognize and seize opportunities for advancement and self-empowerment. "
"The Sith and the Jedi are similar in almost every way, including their quest for greater power. The only difference between the two is that the Sith are not afraid of the dark side of the Force. That is why they are more powerful."
"The Sith rely on their passion for their strength. They think inwards only about themselves."
"And the Jedi do not?"
Sith philosophy emphasized conflict. The Sith believed that it empowered both individuals and civilizations by forcing them to change, grow, and evolve. Conflict ensured that only the strong would survive, thus leading the Sith down the path to perfection. Sentients only deserved what they were strong enough to take and those too weak to protect themselves were fair game.
The pacifistic teachings of the Jedi were viewed as obstructions to progress; lack of conflict led only to stagnation and decline. Likewise, morality was treated as an obstacle to be overcome as it got in the way of a Sith's ability to recognize and seize opportunities for advancement and self-empowerment. "
16 June 2016 02:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Let's not be afraid to write our own psalms, hymns and Biblical stories that pertain to our own lives and intent. Too often we forget that we come from "spiritual scientists and inventors of spirituality" not just worshipers, but masters of their spiritual faith.
It's good for a poet to read poetry now and then, it's good for a singer to listen to songs, it's good for an artists to paint or study other's painting. But overall, the true raw power comes from you. Even with the Bible, it is the raw living energy that you yourself put into the words that make them powerful. This is true with any incantation or ritual.
Don't be afraid to purchase a notebook that you intend to fill every page with your personal prayers to your personal God. I guarantee that this book will be the most powerful book in your possession. Especially if you take the time to meditate on your own before you write them and ask your Gods/Spirits/Guides to help you channel the words of power you need to manipulate your physical reality.
The title of my notebook was called "the Lover's Mastery" a story about a young African Prince who became the apprentice to a Sangoma from another village. The mysteries this Sangoma taught him became a composition of poems and prayers. I have long since sealed this book away, it's hidden in my closet because sometimes when I read from this book apparitions would appear in the corners of my room.
Some will say, well- I don't have the experience to channel that type of energy. If someone owes you allot of money and you see them across the street- with the very same energy you would use to call out their name- that very same energy can be used to channel the information you need.
We are taught to humble ourselves before our Gods, and out of respect we should. Yet understand that perhaps the Universe is waiting for the point when we will start to "command" it appropriately, and defend our right to do so as spiritual Masters.
Don't be afraid to design and invent your own rituals. There are psychic rituals that can be performed within your being, even the lighting of candles can be done from within...just in case you are afraid you might burn the house down.
We learn to meditate and focus our entire concentration energy on one complete act and this is how that power manifests itself.
There are physical rituals you can create to manifest your intent. It all depends on what it means to you and what it means to the Ancestors, Gods or spirits you are soliciting. Perhaps even a ritual to channel your higher self is needed. Work closely with the 5 elements of air, earth, water, fire and spirit.
What does it mean for you if you sprinkle sugar over the name of someone who hates you?
Many will say, my prayers aren't working- am I praying to the right God? So many people switch religions and spiritual traditions because they claim their prayers do not work. Yet a prayer is nothing more than our intent. But the rituals we are taught called "praying" are a different matter.
When most people pray they clasp their hands together while kneeling, they close their eyes and may recite something taught to them as children, or they will -off the top of their head - beg like Keith Sweat for something they may not believe they deserve or for something they feel only God can give them.
We are told that some people are "stronger" prayers, and have some kind of hotline straight to God or the spirit world. We all have the ability to get the answers we need. Instead of praying with empty hands as we often do, we should come with something at least. In fact this is an African custom, when we visit a stranger's home we bring something, a gift- anything.
The truth is people who pray with empty hands usually never get their prayers answers. And yet certain people always get their prayers answers. People who wear rings on their fingers for example, because jewelry is used as a type of offering. And even these people are unaware as to why their "prayers" seem stronger.
While praying it's good to hold something in your hand, cooked rice or raw rice for example. You can use the same raw rice over and over, but the cooked rice you will want to throw outside so the bird can eat it. Bread was also something that was used during prayer. Notice the occult Catholic Priests pray while holding your wafer. Not only are they using "your body" as the bread when you eat it, but you are also their offering to their God- once you eat it. Even when they place their hand on your head, you have now become their offering. The hands are conduits and conductors.
If you don't want to use food, for example you can draw inside your palms, in fact drawing a sigil/symbol on your hands will give that sigil power if you ask your spirits to do so. But safe guard that image and use it wisely.
You can write your "wish" out on paper and hold it inside your hands too. You should also notice that when we hold our hands together for prayer this is the Mother Goddess, the Yoni symbol- and we speak into the yoni- this is by spiritual design. In fact, make sure the lines from the palms of your hands line up too.
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Don't be afraid to speak into the yoni- it is the path to the spirit world. This symbol is prevalent all over the human body, from our eyes to our lips. We speak and see through it, and the hands form one as well. - This is the gateway.
Do not, be afraid to acknowledge both the feminine and masculine spiritual energies - Gods and Goddesses. Note that even in Christianity many acknowledge the power of Mother Mary- the Mother of God along with that of Jesus Christ. This act makes a significant difference when we wish to invoke certain powers, to invoke God as only Male is not wise. We should also keep in mind the totality of spiritual energy, which some may refer not to be called on as any particular gender.
Don't be afraid of creating your own sigils and prayers of protection against unseen and seen enemies. Acknowledge that as a powerful force you will attract powerful enemies. This is something Black people as a collective should acknowledge.
A sample of my own:
I summon the creators of this illusion, of these worlds, of these bodies and dimensions, I summon the creators of Gods and Goddesses, all the entities that can hear and understand my voice and reason, I summon the spirits of art and creation, of song of poetry, of movement, I summon the scientists, mathematicians of logic and intellectual inventors of words, I summon the peaceful Warriors and architects of the darkest magic, I summon all dark and black shadows of the spirit world with the forces and powers like my own- I summon you all to create barriers of protection against those who seek negative intent against me, against those who seek to manipulate me against my own will, against those who seek to harm me for their own benefit, I summon the Ancestors of Ra, I summon the Ancestors of Eli, I summon the Ancestors of Naga, I summon the shaman protectors of my royal bloodline, I summon the Ancestors of Shango and the serpent spirits beyond cosmic time,
the drummers of Africa, the musicians behind every material force- I summon you to protect my path and journey, I ask to be part of your movement in spirit and in life.
It's good for a poet to read poetry now and then, it's good for a singer to listen to songs, it's good for an artists to paint or study other's painting. But overall, the true raw power comes from you. Even with the Bible, it is the raw living energy that you yourself put into the words that make them powerful. This is true with any incantation or ritual.
Don't be afraid to purchase a notebook that you intend to fill every page with your personal prayers to your personal God. I guarantee that this book will be the most powerful book in your possession. Especially if you take the time to meditate on your own before you write them and ask your Gods/Spirits/Guides to help you channel the words of power you need to manipulate your physical reality.
The title of my notebook was called "the Lover's Mastery" a story about a young African Prince who became the apprentice to a Sangoma from another village. The mysteries this Sangoma taught him became a composition of poems and prayers. I have long since sealed this book away, it's hidden in my closet because sometimes when I read from this book apparitions would appear in the corners of my room.
Some will say, well- I don't have the experience to channel that type of energy. If someone owes you allot of money and you see them across the street- with the very same energy you would use to call out their name- that very same energy can be used to channel the information you need.
We are taught to humble ourselves before our Gods, and out of respect we should. Yet understand that perhaps the Universe is waiting for the point when we will start to "command" it appropriately, and defend our right to do so as spiritual Masters.
Don't be afraid to design and invent your own rituals. There are psychic rituals that can be performed within your being, even the lighting of candles can be done from within...just in case you are afraid you might burn the house down.
We learn to meditate and focus our entire concentration energy on one complete act and this is how that power manifests itself.
There are physical rituals you can create to manifest your intent. It all depends on what it means to you and what it means to the Ancestors, Gods or spirits you are soliciting. Perhaps even a ritual to channel your higher self is needed. Work closely with the 5 elements of air, earth, water, fire and spirit.
What does it mean for you if you sprinkle sugar over the name of someone who hates you?
Many will say, my prayers aren't working- am I praying to the right God? So many people switch religions and spiritual traditions because they claim their prayers do not work. Yet a prayer is nothing more than our intent. But the rituals we are taught called "praying" are a different matter.
When most people pray they clasp their hands together while kneeling, they close their eyes and may recite something taught to them as children, or they will -off the top of their head - beg like Keith Sweat for something they may not believe they deserve or for something they feel only God can give them.
We are told that some people are "stronger" prayers, and have some kind of hotline straight to God or the spirit world. We all have the ability to get the answers we need. Instead of praying with empty hands as we often do, we should come with something at least. In fact this is an African custom, when we visit a stranger's home we bring something, a gift- anything.
The truth is people who pray with empty hands usually never get their prayers answers. And yet certain people always get their prayers answers. People who wear rings on their fingers for example, because jewelry is used as a type of offering. And even these people are unaware as to why their "prayers" seem stronger.
While praying it's good to hold something in your hand, cooked rice or raw rice for example. You can use the same raw rice over and over, but the cooked rice you will want to throw outside so the bird can eat it. Bread was also something that was used during prayer. Notice the occult Catholic Priests pray while holding your wafer. Not only are they using "your body" as the bread when you eat it, but you are also their offering to their God- once you eat it. Even when they place their hand on your head, you have now become their offering. The hands are conduits and conductors.
If you don't want to use food, for example you can draw inside your palms, in fact drawing a sigil/symbol on your hands will give that sigil power if you ask your spirits to do so. But safe guard that image and use it wisely.
You can write your "wish" out on paper and hold it inside your hands too. You should also notice that when we hold our hands together for prayer this is the Mother Goddess, the Yoni symbol- and we speak into the yoni- this is by spiritual design. In fact, make sure the lines from the palms of your hands line up too.
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Don't be afraid to speak into the yoni- it is the path to the spirit world. This symbol is prevalent all over the human body, from our eyes to our lips. We speak and see through it, and the hands form one as well. - This is the gateway.
Do not, be afraid to acknowledge both the feminine and masculine spiritual energies - Gods and Goddesses. Note that even in Christianity many acknowledge the power of Mother Mary- the Mother of God along with that of Jesus Christ. This act makes a significant difference when we wish to invoke certain powers, to invoke God as only Male is not wise. We should also keep in mind the totality of spiritual energy, which some may refer not to be called on as any particular gender.
Don't be afraid of creating your own sigils and prayers of protection against unseen and seen enemies. Acknowledge that as a powerful force you will attract powerful enemies. This is something Black people as a collective should acknowledge.
A sample of my own:
I summon the creators of this illusion, of these worlds, of these bodies and dimensions, I summon the creators of Gods and Goddesses, all the entities that can hear and understand my voice and reason, I summon the spirits of art and creation, of song of poetry, of movement, I summon the scientists, mathematicians of logic and intellectual inventors of words, I summon the peaceful Warriors and architects of the darkest magic, I summon all dark and black shadows of the spirit world with the forces and powers like my own- I summon you all to create barriers of protection against those who seek negative intent against me, against those who seek to manipulate me against my own will, against those who seek to harm me for their own benefit, I summon the Ancestors of Ra, I summon the Ancestors of Eli, I summon the Ancestors of Naga, I summon the shaman protectors of my royal bloodline, I summon the Ancestors of Shango and the serpent spirits beyond cosmic time,
the drummers of Africa, the musicians behind every material force- I summon you to protect my path and journey, I ask to be part of your movement in spirit and in life.
16 June 2016 02:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Bro. ZeroPoint, you told on me. How did you manage to figure out how I passed all my classes! By drawing on the paper, outside the margins..the all seeing eye was my favorite. My Teachers never knew what to think of it...but think about it..... it's an
"all seeing" eye.
It sees everything you need to see, into all the dark places left hidden from plain sight. It sees into the world of the unknown. So, whatever it is you need to see, you can- say for example, a Man places such a eye right above his Woman's bed...what will it do? It would act like a gossiping parrot when he walks in the house.
Images, drawn, painted or photographed, instruct spiritual energies how to behave. I think about it like this. If I visited this planet, let's say - 1,000 years from now, and in this new place Black people were speaking some different language I didn't understand, they would only be able to communicate with me through actions, but images/symbols/sigils are like cue cards for actions.
Now if these new people managed to get a hold of some images from my era, even if they didn't speak English they should be able to communicate with me and get me to understand certain ideas.
What we should also consider is that what we consider good or evil changes in time and over generations. Many periods ago, the sacrifice of a baby child was not looked at it is now. So if 1,000 from now Hip-Hop is outlawed as a form of magic- those who invoke Tupac would be like Satanists in that world. You see how that works?
What we have to study is why would they outlaw Hip-Hop? For the very same reason all the techniques now considered "satanic" are outlawed. They want us to stay away from those things, because those are the very sciences they are using to control us.
The all seeing eye is ours, and we should claim it as ours. If it is placed in your room for example, you start getting more information about things that were pretty much lost before.
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Keep in mind also the letter "R" is the symbol for the eye of Horus. The occult sciences are not for everyone, but everyone is part of some occult science.
The invocations I try to stay away from are the ones that keeps me unaware of what's really going on. Which is why I stay away from the major religions and their invocations. Meanwhile the Vatican comes out the closet- and says it's -OK for people to believe in Aliens...believing in Aliens does not contradict your faith..after all that would be putting limitations of God's creative freedom.
http://www.wkrg.com/news/article/vatican_its_ok_to_believe_in_aliens/13868/
And in a few years, this will "trickle down" to the Black churches.
"all seeing" eye.
It sees everything you need to see, into all the dark places left hidden from plain sight. It sees into the world of the unknown. So, whatever it is you need to see, you can- say for example, a Man places such a eye right above his Woman's bed...what will it do? It would act like a gossiping parrot when he walks in the house.
Images, drawn, painted or photographed, instruct spiritual energies how to behave. I think about it like this. If I visited this planet, let's say - 1,000 years from now, and in this new place Black people were speaking some different language I didn't understand, they would only be able to communicate with me through actions, but images/symbols/sigils are like cue cards for actions.
Now if these new people managed to get a hold of some images from my era, even if they didn't speak English they should be able to communicate with me and get me to understand certain ideas.
What we should also consider is that what we consider good or evil changes in time and over generations. Many periods ago, the sacrifice of a baby child was not looked at it is now. So if 1,000 from now Hip-Hop is outlawed as a form of magic- those who invoke Tupac would be like Satanists in that world. You see how that works?
What we have to study is why would they outlaw Hip-Hop? For the very same reason all the techniques now considered "satanic" are outlawed. They want us to stay away from those things, because those are the very sciences they are using to control us.
The all seeing eye is ours, and we should claim it as ours. If it is placed in your room for example, you start getting more information about things that were pretty much lost before.
[IMG]
Keep in mind also the letter "R" is the symbol for the eye of Horus. The occult sciences are not for everyone, but everyone is part of some occult science.
The invocations I try to stay away from are the ones that keeps me unaware of what's really going on. Which is why I stay away from the major religions and their invocations. Meanwhile the Vatican comes out the closet- and says it's -OK for people to believe in Aliens...believing in Aliens does not contradict your faith..after all that would be putting limitations of God's creative freedom.
http://www.wkrg.com/news/article/vatican_its_ok_to_believe_in_aliens/13868/
And in a few years, this will "trickle down" to the Black churches.
http://www.wkrg.com/news/article/vatican_its_ok_to_believe_in_aliens/13868/
16 June 2016 02:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"It seems you can invoke spirits without using any specific remnants of them. If thats the case, what was the point in S&B digging up Geronimos skull?
On my list of books to buy is Creating Magickal Entities...What are some books for summoning a specific Ancestor....or even the Presidents......
Like its continously said in these threads that your ancestors speak to you through your interest...most people are interested in who they see who TV...once you vanish from TV you no longer exist.....but the celebrities/politicians Im most interested in are the ones the dead....all of which died before I was even born.......Sometimes I feel like its there spirits speaking to me...even attempting to get my attention..
META said that the creator of the sigil control the power of it.....What about things like the eye of the back of the dollar bill?.....Its an ancient symbol invented eons before Roosevelt even came to office....So does the image still holds its true intent or has the intent been perverted by THEIR INTENT of putting it on the dollar bill....Cant we use any powerful enough symbol for our own purpose?...Kind of like the Jesus situation...How he can be used for either good or evil????
I honestly one time guessed most of the answers on a test....got bored...drew an all seeing eye at the top of the paper and I ended up getting a B...??? "
On my list of books to buy is Creating Magickal Entities...What are some books for summoning a specific Ancestor....or even the Presidents......
Like its continously said in these threads that your ancestors speak to you through your interest...most people are interested in who they see who TV...once you vanish from TV you no longer exist.....but the celebrities/politicians Im most interested in are the ones the dead....all of which died before I was even born.......Sometimes I feel like its there spirits speaking to me...even attempting to get my attention..
META said that the creator of the sigil control the power of it.....What about things like the eye of the back of the dollar bill?.....Its an ancient symbol invented eons before Roosevelt even came to office....So does the image still holds its true intent or has the intent been perverted by THEIR INTENT of putting it on the dollar bill....Cant we use any powerful enough symbol for our own purpose?...Kind of like the Jesus situation...How he can be used for either good or evil????
I honestly one time guessed most of the answers on a test....got bored...drew an all seeing eye at the top of the paper and I ended up getting a B...??? "
16 June 2016 02:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"ery true Bro. Darkside! And I've know some people to "blot out" that eye, by drawing an ankh symbol directly over it. In fact, I was in a metaphysical class in Manhattan, and night the Teacher came in with over $3,000 in dollar bills and had the entire class sit there, with a red pen and mark the back of the dollar bill with our signature or any other symbols we wanted.
That was many years ago, but I've never ever seen- not one dollar bill from that class. Not one. Which, might be a testament also to how much money is floating around in the world. Or, that money that is marked by people, are destroyed, which is why it appears that American money is so clean.
But the purpose of the ritual was to get us to claim the intent, not the money itself. The amount of money you claim will always come back to you. Some entrepreneurs make the same amount of money every month, because they claim it with an intent. Something that "Pastor Dollar's" Church here in Ga teaches people as well.
And even though that $3,000 was not money we earned ourselves, we were given the opportunity to claim it, at least some of it. And it did work for me, I was broke like nobody's business during that year, and after that ritual money started showing up. Imagine a thief, breaking into a bank only to sign his name on over 20 million dollars, and leaving the money behind. We'd think he was crazy. But if we think about that science, it has been working for White folks for a very long time now. What makes a product of the same quality and manufacturing better than another? Isn't it the name? The signature or sigil placed on that item to claim it?
Our people? We spend a 3rd world nation's yearly budget on clothes. We spend more money on signatures and sigils than anyone else on the planet. We are the most enchanted and spelled by media spellcraft. But the average Joe will tell you he is not a slave, if fact he will say most definitely he is not a slave like our Ancestors. But a slave is only property that you claim, someone who is made by forced or by law to work for your own goals.
If a Dog is roaming "free" in the neighborhood with a collar on, if they police find that Dog what will they ask? - Whose Dog is this? Why? Because the Dog as a collar, therefore an owner that claims it. We are still slaves if we are still wearing their collars, mentally, physically and spiritually. They claim us with an intent, that can then be fused into symbols and sigils of power- invoking their right to dominate us with our own magic.
But the have weaknesses too, they have fears. They hide from their dead but we can't. While is what Halloween is about for them, hiding from the spirits of their Ancestors, afraid to face them- all their horror movies tell the same story, they are afraid of "chickens coming home to roast" which is the exact phrase that will get any Black person in trouble we the media hears us saying it. They could care less about a Black Messiah, those comes and go- it's the Black conjurers that they fear- the ones who will have the power to raise their spirits and Ancestors out from darkness and send them after them.
There is an elite that keeps Whites in darkness too, an elite that feeds their own people illusions of grandeur. But as many conjurers grow more knowledgeable of their powers, who will be the first to bring a White person's Ancestor to work with them? Who will be the first to invoke the dead presidents on America's money, and turn that reverse the spell.
"
That was many years ago, but I've never ever seen- not one dollar bill from that class. Not one. Which, might be a testament also to how much money is floating around in the world. Or, that money that is marked by people, are destroyed, which is why it appears that American money is so clean.
But the purpose of the ritual was to get us to claim the intent, not the money itself. The amount of money you claim will always come back to you. Some entrepreneurs make the same amount of money every month, because they claim it with an intent. Something that "Pastor Dollar's" Church here in Ga teaches people as well.
And even though that $3,000 was not money we earned ourselves, we were given the opportunity to claim it, at least some of it. And it did work for me, I was broke like nobody's business during that year, and after that ritual money started showing up. Imagine a thief, breaking into a bank only to sign his name on over 20 million dollars, and leaving the money behind. We'd think he was crazy. But if we think about that science, it has been working for White folks for a very long time now. What makes a product of the same quality and manufacturing better than another? Isn't it the name? The signature or sigil placed on that item to claim it?
Our people? We spend a 3rd world nation's yearly budget on clothes. We spend more money on signatures and sigils than anyone else on the planet. We are the most enchanted and spelled by media spellcraft. But the average Joe will tell you he is not a slave, if fact he will say most definitely he is not a slave like our Ancestors. But a slave is only property that you claim, someone who is made by forced or by law to work for your own goals.
If a Dog is roaming "free" in the neighborhood with a collar on, if they police find that Dog what will they ask? - Whose Dog is this? Why? Because the Dog as a collar, therefore an owner that claims it. We are still slaves if we are still wearing their collars, mentally, physically and spiritually. They claim us with an intent, that can then be fused into symbols and sigils of power- invoking their right to dominate us with our own magic.
But the have weaknesses too, they have fears. They hide from their dead but we can't. While is what Halloween is about for them, hiding from the spirits of their Ancestors, afraid to face them- all their horror movies tell the same story, they are afraid of "chickens coming home to roast" which is the exact phrase that will get any Black person in trouble we the media hears us saying it. They could care less about a Black Messiah, those comes and go- it's the Black conjurers that they fear- the ones who will have the power to raise their spirits and Ancestors out from darkness and send them after them.
There is an elite that keeps Whites in darkness too, an elite that feeds their own people illusions of grandeur. But as many conjurers grow more knowledgeable of their powers, who will be the first to bring a White person's Ancestor to work with them? Who will be the first to invoke the dead presidents on America's money, and turn that reverse the spell.
"
16 June 2016 02:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" why is this symbol on the dollar bill? "
"THE SYMBOL WAS PUT ON THE DOLLAR BILL BY PRESIDENT FDR WHO WAS A 32 DEGREE SCOTTISH RITE MASON AS A SIGIL TO HELP THE COUNTRY GET OUT OF THE DEPRESSION OF THE THIRTIES BY USING THE ENERGIES OF THE "BLACK" PEOPLE HERE AS THE FUEL BEHIND IT. "
"THE SYMBOL WAS PUT ON THE DOLLAR BILL BY PRESIDENT FDR WHO WAS A 32 DEGREE SCOTTISH RITE MASON AS A SIGIL TO HELP THE COUNTRY GET OUT OF THE DEPRESSION OF THE THIRTIES BY USING THE ENERGIES OF THE "BLACK" PEOPLE HERE AS THE FUEL BEHIND IT. "
16 June 2016 02:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" ALSO BY INGESTING THE WOMAN JUICES DURING THE ACT AND THEN DOING SOLO MAGICK BY HIMSELF HE CAN ALSO TAP IN THAT WAY. ALSO WHEN A WOMAN IS ON HER PERIOD AND YOU MIX THE SPERM(WHICH IS BLOOD) AND HER MENSTRUAL BLOOD WHILE BOTH OF YOU ARE TOGETHER IN THE ACT WHICH IS ONE OF THE HIGHER FORM OF SEX MAGICK. "
// do not try that
// ara seda proovi..
// do not try that
// ara seda proovi..
16 June 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Why is there an eye watching from the yoni? I dont know why but I'm drawn to your symbol lol! I see sexual energy. Can sexual intercourse be a method used to tap into my higher Self?"
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es Sis. Jai, sexual intercourse can be used as a method to tap into your higher self. The eye inside the yoni places the "all seeing eye" in it's true perspective.
The capstone on top of the pyramid- shaped as a triad can represent the yoni as well. Which makes sense since it's the Goddess element that we draw energy from.
A male can summon his higher self too through the yoni. If the male and female hold the same intent, and the male restricts himself from climax- he can not only experience what some might call a spiritual orgasm, but when the female reaches orgasm a feeling of "transcendence" happens, time and space slows down it is in this moment we should actively assert what we want from our Genie. Money, wealth, health etc, all can be obtained through the "proper" use of sex magic.
Bro. Darkside and Bro. Blackbird might have more wealth of information to share in this area. But I know for a fact it works, there are so many methods similar to this that work wonders to help us invoke Ancestors as well. The Goddess of the man's choosing can be channeled through the body of his partner as they have sex, the energy intensifies. Yet be warned that some of these spirits are very possessive...and can bite too.
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es Sis. Jai, sexual intercourse can be used as a method to tap into your higher self. The eye inside the yoni places the "all seeing eye" in it's true perspective.
The capstone on top of the pyramid- shaped as a triad can represent the yoni as well. Which makes sense since it's the Goddess element that we draw energy from.
A male can summon his higher self too through the yoni. If the male and female hold the same intent, and the male restricts himself from climax- he can not only experience what some might call a spiritual orgasm, but when the female reaches orgasm a feeling of "transcendence" happens, time and space slows down it is in this moment we should actively assert what we want from our Genie. Money, wealth, health etc, all can be obtained through the "proper" use of sex magic.
Bro. Darkside and Bro. Blackbird might have more wealth of information to share in this area. But I know for a fact it works, there are so many methods similar to this that work wonders to help us invoke Ancestors as well. The Goddess of the man's choosing can be channeled through the body of his partner as they have sex, the energy intensifies. Yet be warned that some of these spirits are very possessive...and can bite too.
16 June 2016 02:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Good question Sis. Jai, this is a symbol I but together using different intents and ideas. It is the Ankh symbol using the Goddess figure to hold the shape, an eye watches from within the dark womb and yoni symbol. A serpent holds the figure as well to symbolize the male energy. The word "soul" which it is not obvious, appears here, the ribbon on the left is the S, the top of the Ankh symbol is the O, the bottom half form the U curve, and the right ribbon piece forms the L. But the spiritual hands of the symbol is trying to explain it's mystery by pointing out the BA inside an open book, Ba is the individual personality, on the right page we see the KA backwards on top, with a skull on the page as well. The Ka means life force, the skull denotes - death aka rebirth. The symbol is saying the life force is prone to death/rebirth but we strive to keep our Ka intact, our individual personality- which is usually what we means when we speak about "soul."
The truth about this symbol will depend on the minds that use it, for the male if we become conscious of the eye within the yoni symbol, it becomes clear that this place is the path to the spirit world, where we make spiritual "deposits" in order to keep our "BA" intact. The Goddess is the keeper of our souls. For the Woman, she is drawn to the nature of the serpent itself, he draws out the Goddess energy from the spirit world and into the physical. The Male God is responsible for protecting, nurturing and using this energy to create provisions. The Male renews and refreshes the Goddess' Soul.
This symbol tries to answer the question - how do we communicate with God?
By using the soul as a way to transmit and transfer energy to our God, who is usually seated within the God and Goddess.
The truth about this symbol will depend on the minds that use it, for the male if we become conscious of the eye within the yoni symbol, it becomes clear that this place is the path to the spirit world, where we make spiritual "deposits" in order to keep our "BA" intact. The Goddess is the keeper of our souls. For the Woman, she is drawn to the nature of the serpent itself, he draws out the Goddess energy from the spirit world and into the physical. The Male God is responsible for protecting, nurturing and using this energy to create provisions. The Male renews and refreshes the Goddess' Soul.
This symbol tries to answer the question - how do we communicate with God?
By using the soul as a way to transmit and transfer energy to our God, who is usually seated within the God and Goddess.
16 June 2016 02:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"As always ZeroPoint, very good information! Yes, I was reminded that tattoos have been an excellent component in spiritcraft for centuries. Also body art and henna tattoos are used by Kabbalah practitioners as well. I guess what really makes a difference is the permanence of these tattoos. Body art like these ones still used in Africa by native tribes washes off eventually. Even Henna comes off eventually. These markings on the skin are sometimes hymns and incantations that need to come off at some point.
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Now if someone wanted to place a permanent mark on themselves, like a tattoo- sigil etc., they should really be mindful of what that art means. This is the repetition you speak about too. It's a sound that repeats over and over on the surface of our skin, leylines of energy that draw certain spirits to us.
So if a Sistah wants pawprints on her chest, she shouldn't complain later on when cats are walking all over her. Those who have tattoos right on the lower back shouldn't wonder why they are always as_ed out. Spiritual science can be very poetic. But these symbols can be used for liberation too.
The best designs are drawn up by spiritual artists and spiritual people, those who have the ability to feel and understand the spirit world. A tattoo is stained with blood usually. It draws the blood to the surface, actually not that different that the illustration of the 2 cops around the sigil.
American money already has millions of levels of focused energy and incantations on it. I would first revamp some of the symbols on the bill, and then use it as a tattoo. We have to remember that the wearer of the mark is influenced by the creator and invoker of that mark. So again our best symbols are the ones we create ourselves with our own intent. Also guard your work against those who wish to "steal them."
I'm not just talking copyright, I'm talking about other magicians who might wish to steal your sigils to use against you or for themselves.
I believe when we start doing things on a collective level what some of us are doing on an individual level we can redirect the focused energy on the negative imagery used in the media and use that energy for our benefit.
Since nothing is completely solid, the media has many breeches in security.
Perhaps we should treat all spiritual entities in the astral or spirit worlds as placebos for our own higher selves. Then it becomes an issue of, do I myself have the power to change this?
Then we can ask, what do I have the power to change? When we ask that question honestly, we will find we have the power to change the things we understand how to change. Then naturally, all those people who share that same understanding can unify, and effectively focus their attention on that problem. Bring about the Chaos that our Bro. Darkside often speaks about.
There are small things we can change and effect on our own time, but there are things that are collectively built on a psychic spiritual level, so therefore is much broader channel of activity is needed to change it.
There are some people out there protecting things with some serious psychic Karate, afraid that if that thing dies they will die along with it. Media for example, is produced by many levels of entities who need this power in order to survive. "
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Now if someone wanted to place a permanent mark on themselves, like a tattoo- sigil etc., they should really be mindful of what that art means. This is the repetition you speak about too. It's a sound that repeats over and over on the surface of our skin, leylines of energy that draw certain spirits to us.
So if a Sistah wants pawprints on her chest, she shouldn't complain later on when cats are walking all over her. Those who have tattoos right on the lower back shouldn't wonder why they are always as_ed out. Spiritual science can be very poetic. But these symbols can be used for liberation too.
The best designs are drawn up by spiritual artists and spiritual people, those who have the ability to feel and understand the spirit world. A tattoo is stained with blood usually. It draws the blood to the surface, actually not that different that the illustration of the 2 cops around the sigil.
American money already has millions of levels of focused energy and incantations on it. I would first revamp some of the symbols on the bill, and then use it as a tattoo. We have to remember that the wearer of the mark is influenced by the creator and invoker of that mark. So again our best symbols are the ones we create ourselves with our own intent. Also guard your work against those who wish to "steal them."
I'm not just talking copyright, I'm talking about other magicians who might wish to steal your sigils to use against you or for themselves.
I believe when we start doing things on a collective level what some of us are doing on an individual level we can redirect the focused energy on the negative imagery used in the media and use that energy for our benefit.
Since nothing is completely solid, the media has many breeches in security.
Perhaps we should treat all spiritual entities in the astral or spirit worlds as placebos for our own higher selves. Then it becomes an issue of, do I myself have the power to change this?
Then we can ask, what do I have the power to change? When we ask that question honestly, we will find we have the power to change the things we understand how to change. Then naturally, all those people who share that same understanding can unify, and effectively focus their attention on that problem. Bring about the Chaos that our Bro. Darkside often speaks about.
There are small things we can change and effect on our own time, but there are things that are collectively built on a psychic spiritual level, so therefore is much broader channel of activity is needed to change it.
There are some people out there protecting things with some serious psychic Karate, afraid that if that thing dies they will die along with it. Media for example, is produced by many levels of entities who need this power in order to survive. "
16 June 2016 02:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Meta you always hit the nail.....Two post up where you mention the power of tattooos kicked me in the intuition cause the ideas for all my tattoos come from out of nowhere....but they happen to be very intricate designs and patterns of various ancient symbols some known some not so known.....So as tattoos can be used as sigils of sorts....how manipulative can you be with this energy. Especially since once its tattooed on you...its APART of you!.......For example, if someone got a tattoo of the dollar bill on them....could they effect the flow of money in out and around them......how about if i got a tattoo of a corporations logo....could I effect there stocks?....could i effect there christmas sales??......not just with tattoos but the symbols in general...Could I just whip a dollar bill out of my pocket and invoke something to and from it.......how can we use these symbols to our advantage....for example, if i want a credit increase....could I meditate on my banks logo and command the entities invoked into it to work to my advantage???......
Interesting exerpt...Im going to have to check that out.....In my opinion, its symbolic of the repitition of who we are...or who we define ourselves as....for example, it says the adulterers cut their sex organs off which grow back to be cut off again......well, what if they change their consciousness and no longer deem themselves as adulterers??.....
You become a product of your various experiences but what if you no longer approve of these experiences?.....It is said that adulthood is the attempt to rebuild the golden paradise of childhood.....Which goes on to state that the majority of your molestors were molested themselves as a kid.....molestation is their paradise???......So sometimes we deny things and feel guilty because we feel like were running from something...But if its done the right way....completely abolishing all negativity from self through constant(repitition) of denial might be the right way to go......Does it not work for criminals who go free by continously denying the crimes they commit??
Its nothing more than a product of repitition...funny cause repitition is the most basic form of mind control...So all in all...were brainwashing ourselves!.....This is where the power of hypnosis(self?) comes into play because you want to be able to access the subconscious....This is what repitition does over time....which is why its the same MURDER/POVERTY/RAPE stories on the news every night....
I love the idea of focused energy because I see a lot of black people that are stuck in the mindset of "The system is set up for me as a black person to fail"....Not even conscious of the fact that there feeding the system by giving into that false statement.....Same way we see the corporate whites go free when they gip people out of there money (ENRON??)......Most look at it and say "Well they have lawyer money"......Well so does Michael Vick??.....yet his lawyer money didnt keep him out of prison......So I ask for our people to quit with the mindframe that your the underdog and you cant get but so far.....The media is very well aware of the power of focused consciousness......which if you notice everytime a big time celebrity/politician gets caught up in something....there convicted in the court of public opinion via media before the actual trial even takes place......So remember what I said about repitition......if the judge is an avid news watcher.....imagine the thoughts running through his head when he finally sees the actual person standing in his courtroom........
Like I always say I have as many questions as I do answers....So as far as focused energy....How can you manipulate mass consciousness even when its working against you?....For example, if your getting accused of something in the media....How do you negate that mass consciousness AGAINST you and manipulate it to work FOR you???? "
Interesting exerpt...Im going to have to check that out.....In my opinion, its symbolic of the repitition of who we are...or who we define ourselves as....for example, it says the adulterers cut their sex organs off which grow back to be cut off again......well, what if they change their consciousness and no longer deem themselves as adulterers??.....
You become a product of your various experiences but what if you no longer approve of these experiences?.....It is said that adulthood is the attempt to rebuild the golden paradise of childhood.....Which goes on to state that the majority of your molestors were molested themselves as a kid.....molestation is their paradise???......So sometimes we deny things and feel guilty because we feel like were running from something...But if its done the right way....completely abolishing all negativity from self through constant(repitition) of denial might be the right way to go......Does it not work for criminals who go free by continously denying the crimes they commit??
Its nothing more than a product of repitition...funny cause repitition is the most basic form of mind control...So all in all...were brainwashing ourselves!.....This is where the power of hypnosis(self?) comes into play because you want to be able to access the subconscious....This is what repitition does over time....which is why its the same MURDER/POVERTY/RAPE stories on the news every night....
I love the idea of focused energy because I see a lot of black people that are stuck in the mindset of "The system is set up for me as a black person to fail"....Not even conscious of the fact that there feeding the system by giving into that false statement.....Same way we see the corporate whites go free when they gip people out of there money (ENRON??)......Most look at it and say "Well they have lawyer money"......Well so does Michael Vick??.....yet his lawyer money didnt keep him out of prison......So I ask for our people to quit with the mindframe that your the underdog and you cant get but so far.....The media is very well aware of the power of focused consciousness......which if you notice everytime a big time celebrity/politician gets caught up in something....there convicted in the court of public opinion via media before the actual trial even takes place......So remember what I said about repitition......if the judge is an avid news watcher.....imagine the thoughts running through his head when he finally sees the actual person standing in his courtroom........
Like I always say I have as many questions as I do answers....So as far as focused energy....How can you manipulate mass consciousness even when its working against you?....For example, if your getting accused of something in the media....How do you negate that mass consciousness AGAINST you and manipulate it to work FOR you???? "
16 June 2016 02:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Let us take the story of Pastor Ekechukwu of Nigeria into account.
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African Pastor visits heaven and hell; then is resurrected
Daniel stood with the angel and watched a multitude of worshipping people who were dressed in sparkling white garments. He immediately thought they were angels, but the escorting angel told him that they were human beings who, "while they lived on earth, served God and had their faith focused on Christ Jesus and lived righteously." These people were all ageless and raceless. That is, none appeared to be young or middle-aged or elderly, and none had any racial distinctives in their appearance. All were focused on a very bright light, and all worshipped in perfect unison. They would all lift their hands at once and bow at once "as if a sort of electronic device was activating them." (This same phenomena was described to my wife by an elderly Haitian pastor who died for a short time, but was sent back to earth to finish his work.)
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Next the angel took Daniel to hell, and they stood at the gate. When the angel lifted his hand and let it fall again, the gate opened, and Daniel could immediately hear the awful sounds of people screaming and weeping, but everything in hell was in total blackness. Then a bright light shone from the angel, and Daniel could see many groups of people in anguish. He told me of three specific groups that went through endless cycles of torment, forever reaping in hell what they had sown on earth. One group consisted of people who would eat their own flesh and then vomit it out onto the ground, at which time the vomit would fly back onto their bodies and turn back into flesh that they would eat again. The angel told Daniel these people were those who had eaten human flesh as an occult practice. Another group, who had stolen land from others while on earth, endlessly dug rock-hard ground with their bare hands. Another group, former fornicators and adulterers, endlessly mutilated their sexual organs, which after being destroyed, would be regenerated only to be mutilated again.
The entire story is a very important read, what do we make of it?
http://bibleprobe.com/archive/messages/415.html
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African Pastor visits heaven and hell; then is resurrected
Daniel stood with the angel and watched a multitude of worshipping people who were dressed in sparkling white garments. He immediately thought they were angels, but the escorting angel told him that they were human beings who, "while they lived on earth, served God and had their faith focused on Christ Jesus and lived righteously." These people were all ageless and raceless. That is, none appeared to be young or middle-aged or elderly, and none had any racial distinctives in their appearance. All were focused on a very bright light, and all worshipped in perfect unison. They would all lift their hands at once and bow at once "as if a sort of electronic device was activating them." (This same phenomena was described to my wife by an elderly Haitian pastor who died for a short time, but was sent back to earth to finish his work.)
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Next the angel took Daniel to hell, and they stood at the gate. When the angel lifted his hand and let it fall again, the gate opened, and Daniel could immediately hear the awful sounds of people screaming and weeping, but everything in hell was in total blackness. Then a bright light shone from the angel, and Daniel could see many groups of people in anguish. He told me of three specific groups that went through endless cycles of torment, forever reaping in hell what they had sown on earth. One group consisted of people who would eat their own flesh and then vomit it out onto the ground, at which time the vomit would fly back onto their bodies and turn back into flesh that they would eat again. The angel told Daniel these people were those who had eaten human flesh as an occult practice. Another group, who had stolen land from others while on earth, endlessly dug rock-hard ground with their bare hands. Another group, former fornicators and adulterers, endlessly mutilated their sexual organs, which after being destroyed, would be regenerated only to be mutilated again.
The entire story is a very important read, what do we make of it?
http://bibleprobe.com/archive/messages/415.html
http://bibleprobe.com/archive/messages/415.html
16 June 2016 02:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"THE POWER OF FAITH FOCUS
We might find this statement here to be very true: "the more we focus on the things we don't want, the more the things we don't want will appear."
But why is that statement true. It is true because our focused energy of concentration feeds the "things we don't want" causing them to manifest. In that case we are actually "invoking" the situations we don't want to happen simply by focusing on them.
This is something Sis. Phynx speaks about all the time. But we should expound this some more. Is Jesus Christ real because we created Jesus Christ with our faith focus? How about our Deities and Gods, Angels, Demons- are they also created by our faith focus and our power of belief?
I once questioned my Sunday School Teacher about something in the bible, in the 10 commandments where God says he is a jealous God. I asked my Teacher, if God is the only God, what reason does he have to be jealous?
She smiled at me and offered a quick witted response, which probably was fused with a truth perhaps she didn't understand herself. She said "God is jealous of the love and attention we give to other things, love and attention that should be his and his alone."
And naturally this answer provokes another question. Why would a "God" require our love and attention, unless that love and attention was necessary to keep this entity's psychic "form" in existence.
As the movie "Field of Dreams" says, build it and they will come. Idol worship was forbidden because there are real spirits who live inside those vessels. Build the vessel and they come. Build the statue and they come. Build the monument and they come. They come to fill it up when you invoke them.
But without our love and attention, sometimes in the form of blood to feed them, they cannot exist there. Without the universal conduit of spiritual energy- they will not stay.
In the movie "Merlin" with Sam Neill, a Witch's powers were diminished when the people stopped believing in her power, and in her- eventually she diminished also along with her power.
This is also the same reason why the media keeps Americans in fear. The media is also a powerful Witch, that if the people stopped believing in it's power, it would diminish. Because media cannot survive is we stopped "watching" - if our faith focus was not used to feed it.
Are our lives the result of our faith focus? Are we creating the environment for our after-life based upon what we believe?
When we consider the thousands and thousands of years that millions minds have focused their attention energy directly at certain symbols, images, ideals, sounds- aren't these the very psychic and astral ingredients that goes into all dogma and magic?
The existence of Jesus Christ in the astral realm suggests also that he is a result of thousands of years of focused concentrated energy. But what else exists there? What about the snake Goddesses that have been worshiped by millions of a much longer period that any image of Jesus Christ or KMT Deities?
Where we retire to in the spirit world, depends on where we have focused our attention. As the Master said to the student when he asked the very important question ' Where will I go when I die?" The Master Teacher's answer was, "you will go where your mind has been taking you."
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We might find this statement here to be very true: "the more we focus on the things we don't want, the more the things we don't want will appear."
But why is that statement true. It is true because our focused energy of concentration feeds the "things we don't want" causing them to manifest. In that case we are actually "invoking" the situations we don't want to happen simply by focusing on them.
This is something Sis. Phynx speaks about all the time. But we should expound this some more. Is Jesus Christ real because we created Jesus Christ with our faith focus? How about our Deities and Gods, Angels, Demons- are they also created by our faith focus and our power of belief?
I once questioned my Sunday School Teacher about something in the bible, in the 10 commandments where God says he is a jealous God. I asked my Teacher, if God is the only God, what reason does he have to be jealous?
She smiled at me and offered a quick witted response, which probably was fused with a truth perhaps she didn't understand herself. She said "God is jealous of the love and attention we give to other things, love and attention that should be his and his alone."
And naturally this answer provokes another question. Why would a "God" require our love and attention, unless that love and attention was necessary to keep this entity's psychic "form" in existence.
As the movie "Field of Dreams" says, build it and they will come. Idol worship was forbidden because there are real spirits who live inside those vessels. Build the vessel and they come. Build the statue and they come. Build the monument and they come. They come to fill it up when you invoke them.
But without our love and attention, sometimes in the form of blood to feed them, they cannot exist there. Without the universal conduit of spiritual energy- they will not stay.
In the movie "Merlin" with Sam Neill, a Witch's powers were diminished when the people stopped believing in her power, and in her- eventually she diminished also along with her power.
This is also the same reason why the media keeps Americans in fear. The media is also a powerful Witch, that if the people stopped believing in it's power, it would diminish. Because media cannot survive is we stopped "watching" - if our faith focus was not used to feed it.
Are our lives the result of our faith focus? Are we creating the environment for our after-life based upon what we believe?
When we consider the thousands and thousands of years that millions minds have focused their attention energy directly at certain symbols, images, ideals, sounds- aren't these the very psychic and astral ingredients that goes into all dogma and magic?
The existence of Jesus Christ in the astral realm suggests also that he is a result of thousands of years of focused concentrated energy. But what else exists there? What about the snake Goddesses that have been worshiped by millions of a much longer period that any image of Jesus Christ or KMT Deities?
Where we retire to in the spirit world, depends on where we have focused our attention. As the Master said to the student when he asked the very important question ' Where will I go when I die?" The Master Teacher's answer was, "you will go where your mind has been taking you."
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16 June 2016 01:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" know there are so many ways to invoke our Ancestors and spirits, but I also like to hear about Artists who use their work to invoke as well. I was lead to symbols, logos and sigils because I realized the amount of power that was in some of my drawings and sketches, while I didn't know what it was at the time.
I've created portraits of people, and use my third eye to see different elements in that person, and profoundly after awhile that person would become more like the portrait, ie, art imitating life, life imitating art.
Sigils are perhaps the most powerful for me, and hopefully in the future some of my sigils will become jewelry and charms custom designed for people to use them for their own root work. Sometimes I use sigils to tell me a story, the story would actually pour out from the symbol.
I was drawing a symbol one night, and I saw the story in my head of two crooked White police officers who had killed a Black Man, a drug dealer and Son a powerful Voodoo priest here in the south. I saw them as they buried his body deep in a rural forest way from traffic. 2 Nights later, on a full Moon, the two Men returned, draped in dark robes. Over the Man's burial site, they made a circle of various stones and rocks, positioned in a triad pattern. Within the circle they drew out a sigil design, using a twig or branch.
The sigil had to be deep enough to hold channel of water, or blood. One of the Cops took out a knife and stabbed his left hand, allowing his blood to pour into the sigil, while the other Cop outstretched his hand over it, and called out to different spirits. I heard the name "el dor ray" "el dor ray mali" he continued to chant, until the blood filled up the entire sigil.
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While this was only a vision, it inspired several thoughts about how something "drawn in the ground" could be used as a device for spiritual influence and manipulation. No artist should treat their gift lightly. We are the architects of the Human subconscious mind.
Like the words of poetry, our markings are identified in both worlds, the world of the flesh as well as the world of the spirit. This is why a simple drawing can be used not only for protection, but for invoking certain deities.
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What makes the difference between one piece of art and another, is the intent. Does it inspire the soul, or does it cripple it? Think about how our young innocent minds were shaped by cartoons whereas now we have grown men who join the army and die because they wanted to be like GI Joe?
But guess what other type of art is used to invoke spirits? Tattoos. "
I've created portraits of people, and use my third eye to see different elements in that person, and profoundly after awhile that person would become more like the portrait, ie, art imitating life, life imitating art.
Sigils are perhaps the most powerful for me, and hopefully in the future some of my sigils will become jewelry and charms custom designed for people to use them for their own root work. Sometimes I use sigils to tell me a story, the story would actually pour out from the symbol.
I was drawing a symbol one night, and I saw the story in my head of two crooked White police officers who had killed a Black Man, a drug dealer and Son a powerful Voodoo priest here in the south. I saw them as they buried his body deep in a rural forest way from traffic. 2 Nights later, on a full Moon, the two Men returned, draped in dark robes. Over the Man's burial site, they made a circle of various stones and rocks, positioned in a triad pattern. Within the circle they drew out a sigil design, using a twig or branch.
The sigil had to be deep enough to hold channel of water, or blood. One of the Cops took out a knife and stabbed his left hand, allowing his blood to pour into the sigil, while the other Cop outstretched his hand over it, and called out to different spirits. I heard the name "el dor ray" "el dor ray mali" he continued to chant, until the blood filled up the entire sigil.
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While this was only a vision, it inspired several thoughts about how something "drawn in the ground" could be used as a device for spiritual influence and manipulation. No artist should treat their gift lightly. We are the architects of the Human subconscious mind.
Like the words of poetry, our markings are identified in both worlds, the world of the flesh as well as the world of the spirit. This is why a simple drawing can be used not only for protection, but for invoking certain deities.
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What makes the difference between one piece of art and another, is the intent. Does it inspire the soul, or does it cripple it? Think about how our young innocent minds were shaped by cartoons whereas now we have grown men who join the army and die because they wanted to be like GI Joe?
But guess what other type of art is used to invoke spirits? Tattoos. "
16 June 2016 01:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Bro Meta is dropping some really good science. Water is the best purifier and aura strengthener. A good cleansing is to get cool coconut milk and pour it over your head. It strengthens your Ori, personal geni.
Salt is good to take away negativity. Vinegar, similiar in ritualistic use to ammonia or urine, is also a good negativity taker away.
Because I have some many Indian ancestors, I find listening to First Nations flute music elevates my consciousness for ritual work. You can get a CD for the Ghede. This works. Also kora music, marimba music and gnawa music are great for African souls.
Blackbird
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"That is very interesting that you mentioned the salt.
One late night when my daughter first got sick something made me get out of my bed and sprinkle salt on the floor by the doorway of our bedrooms.
I don't know why I did it but I did.
I had no idea salt takes away negative energy.
I really need to start doing more root work. "
Salt is good to take away negativity. Vinegar, similiar in ritualistic use to ammonia or urine, is also a good negativity taker away.
Because I have some many Indian ancestors, I find listening to First Nations flute music elevates my consciousness for ritual work. You can get a CD for the Ghede. This works. Also kora music, marimba music and gnawa music are great for African souls.
Blackbird
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"That is very interesting that you mentioned the salt.
One late night when my daughter first got sick something made me get out of my bed and sprinkle salt on the floor by the doorway of our bedrooms.
I don't know why I did it but I did.
I had no idea salt takes away negative energy.
I really need to start doing more root work. "
16 June 2016 01:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"ANY OF YOUR KEMETIAN UNDERWORLD DIETIES ARE GREAT IN CHAOS MAGICK RITUALS. THE ONES TO USE THAT ARE GREAT ARE
BAST
APEP
ANUBIS(ANPU)
SET AND HIS FEMALE ASPECT TYPHON
SEKHMET(MAKE SURE IT THE UNDERWORLD ONE, THE ONE WITH THE KNIFE)
BAST
APEP
ANUBIS(ANPU)
SET AND HIS FEMALE ASPECT TYPHON
SEKHMET(MAKE SURE IT THE UNDERWORLD ONE, THE ONE WITH THE KNIFE)
16 June 2016 01:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Thanks for your feedback Darkside. That was some interesting science you dropped about your experience with the chaos magick rituals and the Jesus Christ energy. I might have to try that soon. In your method, did you envoke Jesus Christ into a circle or did you use the name as a mantra? I'm gonna do some preliminary reading and research into christian witchcraft/ magick.
It's been quite a long time since I've read the bible or been to a church.
Concerning the Egyptian deities, can you elaborate a little or which deities are excellent ones to work with and also could you use them in chaos magick rituals instead of Egyptian "traditional" magick?
I'm interested in Sekhmet, Anubis, and Set. They have pretty interesting attributes and powers.
It's been quite a long time since I've read the bible or been to a church.
Concerning the Egyptian deities, can you elaborate a little or which deities are excellent ones to work with and also could you use them in chaos magick rituals instead of Egyptian "traditional" magick?
I'm interested in Sekhmet, Anubis, and Set. They have pretty interesting attributes and powers.
16 June 2016 01:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
True indeed. Also, Allah is found in Vodoun among those Tchamba spirits.
Blackbird
Blackbird
16 June 2016 01:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"YARDLEE , YOUR INSIGHT IS SO KEEN IT IS GETTING SCARY. JESUS DO EXIST ON THE ASTRAL PLANE. I HAVE HAD THIS DEBATE WITH PEOPLE SO LONG IT GET NUMB. I HAVE USE JESUS IN MANY OF CHAOS RITUALS AND YES THAT ENTITY DO EXISTS. THE ENERGY LIKE YOU SAID THAT BEEN POUR INTO IT HAS CREATED A VERY POWERFUL BEING. THIS IS ONE OF THE REASON YOU CANT USE CERTAIN NETERS BECAUSE THAT ENERGY HAS DISAPPEARED AND HAS BEEN REASORBED INTO OTHER DIETIES. THAT WHY IN NIGERIA THEY HAVE INCLUDED JESUS IN THE PATHEON BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THE ENERGIES BEHIND IT EVEN IF HE NEVER EXISTED "
16 June 2016 01:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Invocation is definitely a key factor...Especially if you understand that everything is energy...And it's the intent that fuels the energy....I read something that said to attract something its not so much as visualizing and thinking about the specifications...its about the intent of what you want.....for example, if you want a new car....instead of saying "I want the new drop top benz....or I want the lexus that parks itself"....think about what the INTENT of a car is....what does a car provide? Why was it invented?......It provides EFFICIENCY....PROGRESS etc...!!..instead of focusing on what six figure luxury car you want think about its intention and purpose..........down to the core its all about going back to THE SOURCE.....as the SOURCE is the VOID which is where all things come into existence.....
Jesus Christ is something Ive always pondered ...my awareness of other dimensions make me aware that even if the guy didnt exist historically.....it carries a power beyond who knows........ fore thoughts, emotions and words created currents throughout the universe...and all three of these have been utilized towards the name Jesus Christ for over two thousand years....and for the pass few hundred its every sunday...not including bible study communion holidays and everything else....Even during sex or when you see a "blessed" female or when you bump your toe or have a quick scare during a horror movie.....you yell "Jesus" or "Christ"...different events which provoke different emotions yet you yell out the SAME NAME......"
Jesus Christ is something Ive always pondered ...my awareness of other dimensions make me aware that even if the guy didnt exist historically.....it carries a power beyond who knows........ fore thoughts, emotions and words created currents throughout the universe...and all three of these have been utilized towards the name Jesus Christ for over two thousand years....and for the pass few hundred its every sunday...not including bible study communion holidays and everything else....Even during sex or when you see a "blessed" female or when you bump your toe or have a quick scare during a horror movie.....you yell "Jesus" or "Christ"...different events which provoke different emotions yet you yell out the SAME NAME......"
16 June 2016 01:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Sis. Jai, that would depend on where you place Christianity, Christians and "Jesus Christ" within the spiritual hierarchy of your being. As a poet you have the power to write and perfect your own invoking hymns against those who you believe might be out to do you harm, or are doing you harm.
The invoking of Jesus Christ will have a profound affect on those of who are programmed to react to this name as a trigger. Especially when we haven't learned of more powerful entities we can invoke when attacked in the name of Jesus.
The gathering of such entities will depend on your path and spiritual development, but know that they do exist. For example, Christian magic has no dominion over the Jews, many whom do not acknowledge Jesus Christ at all. But the Jewish mystical Rabbis with the use of the Kabbalah have no dominion over true African spirituality. In fact Christianity has zero affect even as a magical component without psychic influence.
In Steven King's "The Mist" we are shown an example of how such religious minds can arouse the fear in people, just with words that are used to manipulate us psychically.
Now there are White Witches who have accepted and embraced their Pagan culture and have managed to use the Goddess Venus to repel Christian spells. The symbol for Venus, which is most interesting is a reversed cross with the circle/womb at the very top, much like the symbol of the Ankh.
The bottom line for us has Human beings is that we want spiritual power, and we will do almost anything to get it, Christians are not exempted here. Judaism, Christianity and even Islam hold strict instructions against the use of magic, yet these three religions were designed specifically in the code of psychic warfare against Africa which was brutally protected and guarded by spiritual forces held by incantations, charms and rituals.
The main purpose of such religions was to break the force fields and rob Africa of her riches and resources. All nations that secure these religions now feed and grow fat off Africa's resources. Coincidence? It's no coincidence that the Arabs of Islam with their strict laws against spiritual and practical magic managed to divine Africa for itself.
Yet ask any Muslim Arab who Allah is, they will not be able to tell you who or what outside the scope of what the Quran says. "Allah" was fathered by some of the same sciences noted in this thread. We might as well say it like this -KAB-ALLAH. Allah is the Ankh, because since the Kabbalah is only the residue left over from KMT systems, it actually means - KA, BA and the Ankh.
So in a sense all of these religions are controlled by the same mafia, that plays them around each other like chess pieces. How are they doing it? By manipulating the vital forces of the Ka, the Ba- the Soul, and by using the Ankh as a psychic electromagnetic controller of the lifeforce.
Break the curse by learning thy self, be confident that your energy is the highest of all energies, you are the grand designer of your reality, invoke your higher self in concert with your Ancestors and other spirits who you many welcome to pay homage to your awareness. There are no masters above you, no slaves below you. It is only those powers that you lease and volunteer your energy too that are able to steer you away from your chosen path and desire.
In many cases we are only heads invoking our tails.
The invoking of Jesus Christ will have a profound affect on those of who are programmed to react to this name as a trigger. Especially when we haven't learned of more powerful entities we can invoke when attacked in the name of Jesus.
The gathering of such entities will depend on your path and spiritual development, but know that they do exist. For example, Christian magic has no dominion over the Jews, many whom do not acknowledge Jesus Christ at all. But the Jewish mystical Rabbis with the use of the Kabbalah have no dominion over true African spirituality. In fact Christianity has zero affect even as a magical component without psychic influence.
In Steven King's "The Mist" we are shown an example of how such religious minds can arouse the fear in people, just with words that are used to manipulate us psychically.
Now there are White Witches who have accepted and embraced their Pagan culture and have managed to use the Goddess Venus to repel Christian spells. The symbol for Venus, which is most interesting is a reversed cross with the circle/womb at the very top, much like the symbol of the Ankh.
The bottom line for us has Human beings is that we want spiritual power, and we will do almost anything to get it, Christians are not exempted here. Judaism, Christianity and even Islam hold strict instructions against the use of magic, yet these three religions were designed specifically in the code of psychic warfare against Africa which was brutally protected and guarded by spiritual forces held by incantations, charms and rituals.
The main purpose of such religions was to break the force fields and rob Africa of her riches and resources. All nations that secure these religions now feed and grow fat off Africa's resources. Coincidence? It's no coincidence that the Arabs of Islam with their strict laws against spiritual and practical magic managed to divine Africa for itself.
Yet ask any Muslim Arab who Allah is, they will not be able to tell you who or what outside the scope of what the Quran says. "Allah" was fathered by some of the same sciences noted in this thread. We might as well say it like this -KAB-ALLAH. Allah is the Ankh, because since the Kabbalah is only the residue left over from KMT systems, it actually means - KA, BA and the Ankh.
So in a sense all of these religions are controlled by the same mafia, that plays them around each other like chess pieces. How are they doing it? By manipulating the vital forces of the Ka, the Ba- the Soul, and by using the Ankh as a psychic electromagnetic controller of the lifeforce.
Break the curse by learning thy self, be confident that your energy is the highest of all energies, you are the grand designer of your reality, invoke your higher self in concert with your Ancestors and other spirits who you many welcome to pay homage to your awareness. There are no masters above you, no slaves below you. It is only those powers that you lease and volunteer your energy too that are able to steer you away from your chosen path and desire.
In many cases we are only heads invoking our tails.
16 June 2016 01:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"I've often pondered that thought as well. Just because the Historic character of Jesus Christ didn't actually exist, does that necessarily negate his alleged power and the inherent power in his name . . .
I've come to my own personal conclusion that Jesus Christ exist on the astral plane as an egregore. An entity that was created by the thoughts of man and has been fueled with the mental and emotional energy since the last couple of thousand of years.
When grandmother says that she prayed to Jesus Christ and her illness was miraculously cured and the physicians can't figure out why? Does that make her psychic experience any less authentic because we know that Christianity and the bible represent a fiction and a plaigarism of other earlier spiritual traditions? "
I've come to my own personal conclusion that Jesus Christ exist on the astral plane as an egregore. An entity that was created by the thoughts of man and has been fueled with the mental and emotional energy since the last couple of thousand of years.
When grandmother says that she prayed to Jesus Christ and her illness was miraculously cured and the physicians can't figure out why? Does that make her psychic experience any less authentic because we know that Christianity and the bible represent a fiction and a plaigarism of other earlier spiritual traditions? "
16 June 2016 01:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jesus Christ- the protector?
To invoke the truth out of mystery and the hidden, like all invocation, we must be ready and prepared to see it's unknown form. While the theoretical Jesus Christ is a lunchmeat of different Christ/Godhead stories over the millennia, the movement of his life directed by cultural zodiacs and worship to the Sun and stars.....his vibrational presence in the Astral realm, and the power in the name "Jesus Christ" as a tool to protect ones self against negative spirits has to come under true metaphysical scrutiny. Many will say like myself will say, I believe in the Mythical Jesus Christ, yet how would we explain the power behind the "spiritual" Jesus?
There is a certain binary code within the name, designed and configured for the use of channeling in energies that act in accordance of laws of their developing social class and structure. Many times when we speak of "the spirit world" such worlds are actually dimensions, and such dimensions are actually planetary systems where life in higher vibratory rates reside.
What am I saying here? I am saying we can right now, if we knew and understood the science, create a being, by drawing out the outline psychically and calling out for a higher energy to take it's form.
The spirit many of us channel by invoking the name of Jesus Christ is a spirit some also describe as having and Angelic form, it is also the spirit of jmmanuel of the Pleiadians.
"God is a human being, like all the celestial sons and the terrestrial humans, except that he is vastly greater in consciousness."-"Behold, god and his followers came from the depths of space... and created here a new race and home with the early women of Earth." -[4:40 and 1:88] -The Talmud Jmmanuel
We must also realize this is a grand production, there are many evolved spirits in line waiting to "play the role" of the cosmic Christ. Because it is there we get to show off our development and all the news tricks we learned along the way. Yet there is more to this "creation" story.
In the book "The 72 names of God: The Technology of the Soul" some of the secrets of the mystical Jews of Kabbalah reveal themselves once more. The 72 "names" are keys to the Hebrew language, and keys to the binary codes hidden in the Bible and the Universe in general. Since all Semitic languages evolved from Africa, it fair to assume the binary codes have distinct characteristics that have been left undisturbed, yet hidden. Characteristics that when used correctly in accordance with the higher spirits that designed them, can manipulate space and time, and even create Angels that can be used for protection and war.
So if we notice the power of "Jesus Christ" as the spiritual presence of Jmmanuel of the Pleiadians, we should also note that the Pleiadians according to those who channel and speak with these beings are a culture of Goddess worshipers. Their stories are very interesting for those who have time to research them.
But again, there are many powerful spirits that are useful. Whatever it is we invoke, we should also keep a clear mind about our intent as well as their intent.
The invoking of a spirit for protection is common. Let us be sure we understand the nature of the spirits we seek.
Invoke Protection
Cast or draw a circle on the ground, step inside of it.
Speak outloud-
Hear me knights of past, Knights of the ancient law. Hear me dead knights of an English tongue. Hear me knights lost in battle, who's blade did good. Hear me knights of old, hear me knights of lost souls. This night I invoke thee . I summon thee to my arms aid. Hear me knights, a new cause be given. Your body gone now spirit be. Hear me Dead Knights I invoke thee. By your spirit blade I invoke you. By your might I invoke you. By your spirit I invoke you. Come now , follow a new cause, I summon thee. Each of thee I enlist. I invoke you dead knights lost. Hear me and come to my aid. Hear me and fight at my side. Protect me from spirits harm. Fight my battles I say to thee. Hear me Spirits of lost knights , come to my aid, come to my side. Protect me from spirits harm. Protect me from spirits light. I invoke you. I invoke you. I invoke you. I invoke you. I invoke you.
Let my army be done. Let it be . Let it be
- what Bush does everyday before leaving this house....
To invoke the truth out of mystery and the hidden, like all invocation, we must be ready and prepared to see it's unknown form. While the theoretical Jesus Christ is a lunchmeat of different Christ/Godhead stories over the millennia, the movement of his life directed by cultural zodiacs and worship to the Sun and stars.....his vibrational presence in the Astral realm, and the power in the name "Jesus Christ" as a tool to protect ones self against negative spirits has to come under true metaphysical scrutiny. Many will say like myself will say, I believe in the Mythical Jesus Christ, yet how would we explain the power behind the "spiritual" Jesus?
There is a certain binary code within the name, designed and configured for the use of channeling in energies that act in accordance of laws of their developing social class and structure. Many times when we speak of "the spirit world" such worlds are actually dimensions, and such dimensions are actually planetary systems where life in higher vibratory rates reside.
What am I saying here? I am saying we can right now, if we knew and understood the science, create a being, by drawing out the outline psychically and calling out for a higher energy to take it's form.
The spirit many of us channel by invoking the name of Jesus Christ is a spirit some also describe as having and Angelic form, it is also the spirit of jmmanuel of the Pleiadians.
"God is a human being, like all the celestial sons and the terrestrial humans, except that he is vastly greater in consciousness."-"Behold, god and his followers came from the depths of space... and created here a new race and home with the early women of Earth." -[4:40 and 1:88] -The Talmud Jmmanuel
We must also realize this is a grand production, there are many evolved spirits in line waiting to "play the role" of the cosmic Christ. Because it is there we get to show off our development and all the news tricks we learned along the way. Yet there is more to this "creation" story.
In the book "The 72 names of God: The Technology of the Soul" some of the secrets of the mystical Jews of Kabbalah reveal themselves once more. The 72 "names" are keys to the Hebrew language, and keys to the binary codes hidden in the Bible and the Universe in general. Since all Semitic languages evolved from Africa, it fair to assume the binary codes have distinct characteristics that have been left undisturbed, yet hidden. Characteristics that when used correctly in accordance with the higher spirits that designed them, can manipulate space and time, and even create Angels that can be used for protection and war.
So if we notice the power of "Jesus Christ" as the spiritual presence of Jmmanuel of the Pleiadians, we should also note that the Pleiadians according to those who channel and speak with these beings are a culture of Goddess worshipers. Their stories are very interesting for those who have time to research them.
But again, there are many powerful spirits that are useful. Whatever it is we invoke, we should also keep a clear mind about our intent as well as their intent.
The invoking of a spirit for protection is common. Let us be sure we understand the nature of the spirits we seek.
Invoke Protection
Cast or draw a circle on the ground, step inside of it.
Speak outloud-
Hear me knights of past, Knights of the ancient law. Hear me dead knights of an English tongue. Hear me knights lost in battle, who's blade did good. Hear me knights of old, hear me knights of lost souls. This night I invoke thee . I summon thee to my arms aid. Hear me knights, a new cause be given. Your body gone now spirit be. Hear me Dead Knights I invoke thee. By your spirit blade I invoke you. By your might I invoke you. By your spirit I invoke you. Come now , follow a new cause, I summon thee. Each of thee I enlist. I invoke you dead knights lost. Hear me and come to my aid. Hear me and fight at my side. Protect me from spirits harm. Fight my battles I say to thee. Hear me Spirits of lost knights , come to my aid, come to my side. Protect me from spirits harm. Protect me from spirits light. I invoke you. I invoke you. I invoke you. I invoke you. I invoke you.
Let my army be done. Let it be . Let it be
- what Bush does everyday before leaving this house....
16 June 2016 01:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Bro. BlackBird, I honor your Louisiana roots- the grounds of Louisiana has kept our spirits alive and safe for some time now. In my family's carib spiritual customs, some are drawn to Elegua. I've been to so many different ceremonies as a child, I know that these beads they called "jumbie beads" were used in different rituals. I know for a fact I was scared of these beads because I've seen them move on their own before.
In that respect your Crossroads ritual feels very familiar to me, again solidifying the connection between the West African slaves of the Caribbean with those of New Orleans and Louisiana. We also find those similarities between Mardi Gras and the Afro-spiritual carnivals of Rio and the West Indies.
When I lived with my Aunt as a child, the only extra room for me to sleep was the room where she kept her altar. While this might be the only place I can mention this, my Aunt practiced dark magic- something my family is still in denial about. She allowed me to see her doing things, because she didn't think I was smart or old enough to understand, and in fact I wasn't. But- the thing about children, is that their minds are able to record data they can retrieve later on when they can understand. So now I'm thinking- oh. I see.
I have photos of her altar still in my mind. I would meditate on the statues she kept on her table when she was away. I especially remember the statue of a Black Man robed in blue and white holding a staff. While I don't know who it was because I've never took the time to research it, it still sticks out in my mind. Now surrounding him, almost in worship - were white statues, the virgin Mary was one, as well as other Saintly figures here and there. She seemed to love red and green candles, a few white ones. Dried and burnt corn. Change sprinkled here and there too, actually- I've taken change from her altar before.
OK- true, all that sounds fine and good, but why did I say she practiced dark magic? My Aunt took me to her "Churches" all the time. Bro. Darkside is right when talks about what's going on in Brooklyn NY, because this is where I received the path I'm on now. In Brooklyn most of the spiritual baptist Churches ran by people from the 'Delta" the deep south and the Carribbean are hot spots for all manners of spiritualism. My Aunt obviously was really good at what she was doing, because after Church she'd start getting calls from all types of Women who wanted her to help them.
All she needed was your name. I've seen her do it so many times in my mind, conceptually I might understand "some" of what she was doing. The items where, a paper bag, the person's name, a candle, and the main ingredient? Some of her own urine. I've seen her use aluminum foil as well, sometimes even a cigar, but I still don't understand fully how some of these items connected. I do know she was very popular.
Overhearing some of the conversations from Women calling, most of the Women had serious Man or money issues. I never understood the dept of my Aunt's spiritual practices until I lied to her one day and told her that an Angel came to the door and told me to leave the house because it was about to catch on fire. The truth was, I left the house without her permission to go play outside with some friends. But she believed my story.
Perhaps she felt what I described as "an Angel" was one of the spirits she herself had conjured. Who knows. I do know one night while sleeping in the altar room, someone tapped me on the back, I looked around and no one was there but darkness.
Instructors need to get paid for their lessons, many your spirits and guides continue to rewards you Bro. BlackBird."
In that respect your Crossroads ritual feels very familiar to me, again solidifying the connection between the West African slaves of the Caribbean with those of New Orleans and Louisiana. We also find those similarities between Mardi Gras and the Afro-spiritual carnivals of Rio and the West Indies.
When I lived with my Aunt as a child, the only extra room for me to sleep was the room where she kept her altar. While this might be the only place I can mention this, my Aunt practiced dark magic- something my family is still in denial about. She allowed me to see her doing things, because she didn't think I was smart or old enough to understand, and in fact I wasn't. But- the thing about children, is that their minds are able to record data they can retrieve later on when they can understand. So now I'm thinking- oh. I see.
I have photos of her altar still in my mind. I would meditate on the statues she kept on her table when she was away. I especially remember the statue of a Black Man robed in blue and white holding a staff. While I don't know who it was because I've never took the time to research it, it still sticks out in my mind. Now surrounding him, almost in worship - were white statues, the virgin Mary was one, as well as other Saintly figures here and there. She seemed to love red and green candles, a few white ones. Dried and burnt corn. Change sprinkled here and there too, actually- I've taken change from her altar before.
OK- true, all that sounds fine and good, but why did I say she practiced dark magic? My Aunt took me to her "Churches" all the time. Bro. Darkside is right when talks about what's going on in Brooklyn NY, because this is where I received the path I'm on now. In Brooklyn most of the spiritual baptist Churches ran by people from the 'Delta" the deep south and the Carribbean are hot spots for all manners of spiritualism. My Aunt obviously was really good at what she was doing, because after Church she'd start getting calls from all types of Women who wanted her to help them.
All she needed was your name. I've seen her do it so many times in my mind, conceptually I might understand "some" of what she was doing. The items where, a paper bag, the person's name, a candle, and the main ingredient? Some of her own urine. I've seen her use aluminum foil as well, sometimes even a cigar, but I still don't understand fully how some of these items connected. I do know she was very popular.
Overhearing some of the conversations from Women calling, most of the Women had serious Man or money issues. I never understood the dept of my Aunt's spiritual practices until I lied to her one day and told her that an Angel came to the door and told me to leave the house because it was about to catch on fire. The truth was, I left the house without her permission to go play outside with some friends. But she believed my story.
Perhaps she felt what I described as "an Angel" was one of the spirits she herself had conjured. Who knows. I do know one night while sleeping in the altar room, someone tapped me on the back, I looked around and no one was there but darkness.
Instructors need to get paid for their lessons, many your spirits and guides continue to rewards you Bro. BlackBird."
16 June 2016 01:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"How to approach the old man at the crossroads....
1. Go to the crossroads right before sunrise, take with you a bottle of cane syrup, a corncob pipe with tobacco and some change like pennies, nickels and dimes.
2. Sit down near the crossroads.
3. Pour some cane syrup on the ground and say "Ole Rider, I come to the crossroads so that you can teach me to.... (do whatever skill you are requesting for)
4. Place the corncob pipe w/ tobacco and change on the ground and say "Ole Rider, so you will teach me to (your request), I've brought you a pipe and some money." (Instructors need to get paid for their lessons)
5. Wait until the sun rises and once the sun has rose, you can go home. (Before you leave, and some old heads say do it for nine days, you will see the rider who will come and teach you what you are requesting for)
6. Leave your offerings.
You can use other names like Legba, Eshu, Nzila, Rider or Eleggua. You get my drift.
Blackbird (blowing smoke and giving thanks for my rural Louisiana roots that taught me old school rituals) "
1. Go to the crossroads right before sunrise, take with you a bottle of cane syrup, a corncob pipe with tobacco and some change like pennies, nickels and dimes.
2. Sit down near the crossroads.
3. Pour some cane syrup on the ground and say "Ole Rider, I come to the crossroads so that you can teach me to.... (do whatever skill you are requesting for)
4. Place the corncob pipe w/ tobacco and change on the ground and say "Ole Rider, so you will teach me to (your request), I've brought you a pipe and some money." (Instructors need to get paid for their lessons)
5. Wait until the sun rises and once the sun has rose, you can go home. (Before you leave, and some old heads say do it for nine days, you will see the rider who will come and teach you what you are requesting for)
6. Leave your offerings.
You can use other names like Legba, Eshu, Nzila, Rider or Eleggua. You get my drift.
Blackbird (blowing smoke and giving thanks for my rural Louisiana roots that taught me old school rituals) "
16 June 2016 01:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" The common incantations among Christians like "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" what does that mean exactly? Does that mean that if we wanted to do something negative through the name of "Christ" we could? Yes it does. "All things" would incorporate just that, negative and positive.
But what type of spiritual power do these invocations call in? "In Jesus' name we pray" - it appears that we wish to channel an entity we believe has a close relationship with God. We are taught that Jesus is the "Son" of God, therefore God and Jesus has a close relationship. So to invoke the name of Jesus, to pray in his "name" is actually a way to win God's favor. This is also the case with David as it was the relationship he had with God that made him a powerful Avatar among the Jews.
But there is a feeling of deception here as well. Why would this relationship be used? What- to fool God? If our friend work at Macy's, would we use the relationship our friend has in this establishment to get a discount? Sure we would. This is what Humans do.
Because Humans are "taught" to think of themselves as the less powerful entity in the spirit world. How we survive depends on the relationships of other spirits with what we assume is the true source of power- God.
I wonder what Jesus' credit score looks like.
But to be fair, this is very practical. Christians are no different than the other spiritualists who invoke deities because of it's relationship with different sources. The only difference is that most spiritualists don't pretend about what they are doing. Jesus Christ, while many will wallpaper around the truth- is not always used for positive light. I've personally witnessed the name of Jesus Christ used to get Men sent to prison, have Women miscarry babies, and even cause people to fall, trip and hurt themselves. Such magic is worked by Christian Women usually.
And the use of Christian sex magic is another story entirely, one that would warrant it's own thread. There are Men walking around right now who are convinced they are in total control of their lives, when in fact- they are moved around like chess pieces in the mind of the Christian Woman who controls them. While I respect and admire her power, it is unfair that we are still so clueless about our sexual energy and how it's alchemical nature can be used to manipulate the soul.
But, if we are to call up someone who has a close relationship with God, why Jesus Christ? Because culturally, it is the Black Woman herself who is most worthy of this bond. Who else but her? The Virgin Mary is also worshiped in her place. Who is the real head of the Christian Church?
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Is the Jesus fish simply a symbol for Pisces? Or is it a clever way to mask the vagina of the Goddess, the dark Mother.
But why does the name "Jesus Christ" itself have power? Simple. People were sacrificed to give the name power, certain rituals were performed on the name and lives we took, blood was spilled, souls departed from the body with that name still in their minds. So the name is now a "trigger" for spirits who will come to the aid of those who invoke them. Such was also done with the N_word- when used incorrectly outside of the "God intent" , souls have departed with that name stained in their mind as well. Such ceremonies still take place today, only now the media is used.
There is still a greater question left to be answered here- why does the power of Jesus Christ work against what many of us called "negative or dark spirits" even those of us to denounce religious dogma must question this.
What is the real power behind the vibration of Jesus Christ?
http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/03/invoking-jesus-and-god-during-astral-experiences/
But what type of spiritual power do these invocations call in? "In Jesus' name we pray" - it appears that we wish to channel an entity we believe has a close relationship with God. We are taught that Jesus is the "Son" of God, therefore God and Jesus has a close relationship. So to invoke the name of Jesus, to pray in his "name" is actually a way to win God's favor. This is also the case with David as it was the relationship he had with God that made him a powerful Avatar among the Jews.
But there is a feeling of deception here as well. Why would this relationship be used? What- to fool God? If our friend work at Macy's, would we use the relationship our friend has in this establishment to get a discount? Sure we would. This is what Humans do.
Because Humans are "taught" to think of themselves as the less powerful entity in the spirit world. How we survive depends on the relationships of other spirits with what we assume is the true source of power- God.
I wonder what Jesus' credit score looks like.
But to be fair, this is very practical. Christians are no different than the other spiritualists who invoke deities because of it's relationship with different sources. The only difference is that most spiritualists don't pretend about what they are doing. Jesus Christ, while many will wallpaper around the truth- is not always used for positive light. I've personally witnessed the name of Jesus Christ used to get Men sent to prison, have Women miscarry babies, and even cause people to fall, trip and hurt themselves. Such magic is worked by Christian Women usually.
And the use of Christian sex magic is another story entirely, one that would warrant it's own thread. There are Men walking around right now who are convinced they are in total control of their lives, when in fact- they are moved around like chess pieces in the mind of the Christian Woman who controls them. While I respect and admire her power, it is unfair that we are still so clueless about our sexual energy and how it's alchemical nature can be used to manipulate the soul.
But, if we are to call up someone who has a close relationship with God, why Jesus Christ? Because culturally, it is the Black Woman herself who is most worthy of this bond. Who else but her? The Virgin Mary is also worshiped in her place. Who is the real head of the Christian Church?
[IMG]
Is the Jesus fish simply a symbol for Pisces? Or is it a clever way to mask the vagina of the Goddess, the dark Mother.
But why does the name "Jesus Christ" itself have power? Simple. People were sacrificed to give the name power, certain rituals were performed on the name and lives we took, blood was spilled, souls departed from the body with that name still in their minds. So the name is now a "trigger" for spirits who will come to the aid of those who invoke them. Such was also done with the N_word- when used incorrectly outside of the "God intent" , souls have departed with that name stained in their mind as well. Such ceremonies still take place today, only now the media is used.
There is still a greater question left to be answered here- why does the power of Jesus Christ work against what many of us called "negative or dark spirits" even those of us to denounce religious dogma must question this.
What is the real power behind the vibration of Jesus Christ?
http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/03/invoking-jesus-and-god-during-astral-experiences/
http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/03/invoking-jesus-and-god-during-astral-experiences/
16 June 2016 01:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Bro. Darkside, now that is some very good information. Reminds me of the movie the "The 9 Demons" the demons were worn as a necklace of skulls around the neck and they were unleashed on the enemies of the fighter.
108 is also a very scared number, 108 path to Gods? 108 stages of the soul. 108 energy lines that make up the heart chakra.
Heads up, Bro. Darkside is a serious diviner of Chaos if Kali energy is being used!
I heard some rumors that a few magicians took down the internet for a few hours just by invoking the Goddess of that energy. *
https://youtu.be/ztUIo3andAk
108 is also a very scared number, 108 path to Gods? 108 stages of the soul. 108 energy lines that make up the heart chakra.
Heads up, Bro. Darkside is a serious diviner of Chaos if Kali energy is being used!
I heard some rumors that a few magicians took down the internet for a few hours just by invoking the Goddess of that energy. *
https://youtu.be/ztUIo3andAk
https://youtu.be/ztUIo3andAk
16 June 2016 01:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"ANOTHER TOOL THAT I USE AND MAY HELP OTHER IS THE SCIENCE OF 108 AND THE ROSARY. 108 BREAK DOWN TO 9 WHICH IS THE ETHER. BY SAYING YOUR INVOCATION 108 TIMES YOU SET IN MOTION YOUR INTENT(ENERGY) TO THE MIRROR UNI/MEGAVERSE. I HAVE A ROSARY WHICH HAS 108 SKULLS WHICH SEND OUT THE KALI ENERGY WHICH IS A DESTRUCTIVE ENERGY "
16 June 2016 01:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Just a quick note so I don't leave Christians out of this equation....
Christian Magic
~ Working With The Saints ~
When asking the Saints to intercede on your behalf, it's most important to be sincere in your petition. furthermore, it is not wise to ask for that which would be against that particular saint's nature or principals. It is most helpful to think through your request very thoroughly, perhaps even writing it down. Some saints are very appreciative of gifts, sometimes before you make your request, sometimes after and sometimes both.
Usually, one's prayers for interession are accompanied by the burning of candles. Often, simple votive candles are sufficient, but 7 day novena candles of a color appropriate to the saint is even more effective. In addition, some saints have special oils for anointing their candle. Many people also wear the medal of a saint, partcularly their patron saint, and carry a prayer card with the picture and prayer to the saint whose intercession is sought.
† The Saints (O.L.= "Our Lady of ...")
St.Anthony Of Padua - Find lost objects, works wonders.
St.Barbara - For love and friendship, conquer enemies.
St.Bernadette - For healing.
Charity, O.L. - Protection of home, find lover, bring prosperity.
St.Christopher - Protection during travel.
St.Dymphna - For mental disorders, demonic possession.
St.Expeditus - Settle disputes, for pressing needs.
Guadelupe, O.L. - Overcome fear, protection from jinxes.
Guardian Angel - Protect self and children from danger and evil spirits.
Infant Jesus Of Atocha - Be free from punishment, guilt and sin.
St.Joseph - find job, sell or rent house.
St.Jude - For impossible situations.
St.Lazarus - Healing and Sickness.
St.Martin De Porres - For comfort, health, friends - good life.
St.Martin Caballero - Business, draw customers.
St.Michael - Overcome obstacles, defeat enemies, remove evil.
Mercy, O.L. - Studies, mental clarity
Miraculous Mother - Bring good things of life.
Perpetual Help, O.L. - When in need of help.
St.Peter - Open roads, bring opportunities for success.
St.Ramond - Stop gossip and slander, silence enemies.
St.Raphael - "The Healer of God".
Sacred Heart Of Jesus - Blessed, peaceful life.
Sacred Heart Of Mary - Serenity and spiritual blessings.
Seven African Powers/Saints - All purpose, to solve problems
Gotta love the "all purpose" Saints right?
† Some Psalms For Times Of Need
Psalm #:
64 - Accidents, To avoid ...
64 - Enemies, Protection from ...
29 - Demons, To exorcise ... (Verse 1).
7 - Hex, - To break ... (Verse 1-10).
94 - Justice, For ... to triumph.
65 - Luck - For ... in all of one's affairs.
111 - Love, - To attract ... (Verse 4).
119 - Money, - To attract ... (Verse 17-24).
129 - Oppression - Escape from ...
30 - Sickness, - Recovery from ... (Verse 11-12).
29 - Storm, For protection from ... (Verse 3-4).
132 - Worldly Goods, - To acquire ... (Verse 12-18).
http://members.tripod.com/~ravenpsy/xian.html#psalms
Many of us will notice how very similar these methods of invoking the saints are to invoking the spirits, what is the real different especially since most of the so-called Saints are translated African deities in the first place? Many have suggested that Saint Barbara is an aspect of Shango because of shared attributes.
Elegba- God of the Crossroads - that Bro. BlackBird mentions earlier...shares attributes with St. Michael, St. Peter, St. Martin de Porres, St. Anthony and
St. Benito. Just as Obatala the creator God of Yoruba in Santería is invoked as "our lady of mercy" and many will say his essence is the "Jesus Christ" African people worship currently. "
Christian Magic
~ Working With The Saints ~
When asking the Saints to intercede on your behalf, it's most important to be sincere in your petition. furthermore, it is not wise to ask for that which would be against that particular saint's nature or principals. It is most helpful to think through your request very thoroughly, perhaps even writing it down. Some saints are very appreciative of gifts, sometimes before you make your request, sometimes after and sometimes both.
Usually, one's prayers for interession are accompanied by the burning of candles. Often, simple votive candles are sufficient, but 7 day novena candles of a color appropriate to the saint is even more effective. In addition, some saints have special oils for anointing their candle. Many people also wear the medal of a saint, partcularly their patron saint, and carry a prayer card with the picture and prayer to the saint whose intercession is sought.
† The Saints (O.L.= "Our Lady of ...")
St.Anthony Of Padua - Find lost objects, works wonders.
St.Barbara - For love and friendship, conquer enemies.
St.Bernadette - For healing.
Charity, O.L. - Protection of home, find lover, bring prosperity.
St.Christopher - Protection during travel.
St.Dymphna - For mental disorders, demonic possession.
St.Expeditus - Settle disputes, for pressing needs.
Guadelupe, O.L. - Overcome fear, protection from jinxes.
Guardian Angel - Protect self and children from danger and evil spirits.
Infant Jesus Of Atocha - Be free from punishment, guilt and sin.
St.Joseph - find job, sell or rent house.
St.Jude - For impossible situations.
St.Lazarus - Healing and Sickness.
St.Martin De Porres - For comfort, health, friends - good life.
St.Martin Caballero - Business, draw customers.
St.Michael - Overcome obstacles, defeat enemies, remove evil.
Mercy, O.L. - Studies, mental clarity
Miraculous Mother - Bring good things of life.
Perpetual Help, O.L. - When in need of help.
St.Peter - Open roads, bring opportunities for success.
St.Ramond - Stop gossip and slander, silence enemies.
St.Raphael - "The Healer of God".
Sacred Heart Of Jesus - Blessed, peaceful life.
Sacred Heart Of Mary - Serenity and spiritual blessings.
Seven African Powers/Saints - All purpose, to solve problems
Gotta love the "all purpose" Saints right?
† Some Psalms For Times Of Need
Psalm #:
64 - Accidents, To avoid ...
64 - Enemies, Protection from ...
29 - Demons, To exorcise ... (Verse 1).
7 - Hex, - To break ... (Verse 1-10).
94 - Justice, For ... to triumph.
65 - Luck - For ... in all of one's affairs.
111 - Love, - To attract ... (Verse 4).
119 - Money, - To attract ... (Verse 17-24).
129 - Oppression - Escape from ...
30 - Sickness, - Recovery from ... (Verse 11-12).
29 - Storm, For protection from ... (Verse 3-4).
132 - Worldly Goods, - To acquire ... (Verse 12-18).
http://members.tripod.com/~ravenpsy/xian.html#psalms
Many of us will notice how very similar these methods of invoking the saints are to invoking the spirits, what is the real different especially since most of the so-called Saints are translated African deities in the first place? Many have suggested that Saint Barbara is an aspect of Shango because of shared attributes.
Elegba- God of the Crossroads - that Bro. BlackBird mentions earlier...shares attributes with St. Michael, St. Peter, St. Martin de Porres, St. Anthony and
St. Benito. Just as Obatala the creator God of Yoruba in Santería is invoked as "our lady of mercy" and many will say his essence is the "Jesus Christ" African people worship currently. "
16 June 2016 01:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Obatala -King who wears white cloth
Not everyone who cries out lord, lord can enter into the realm of our Ancestors, because what "Lord" do we refer to? There is Oluwa Aiye, the spirit of which is used to bathe the image of Jesus Christ."
Not everyone who cries out lord, lord can enter into the realm of our Ancestors, because what "Lord" do we refer to? There is Oluwa Aiye, the spirit of which is used to bathe the image of Jesus Christ."
16 June 2016 01:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Very true! The Bible tells you how to access the information. Commit them to memory and meditate/chant the words/incantation. Hope that didn't sound like I am trying to proselytize. I'm not."
16 June 2016 01:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Bro. BlackBird and Bro. Darkside teach!! Secretly that was the reason behind starting this thread because I knew some good rituals would be recorded here.
When I hear that term "the Black Man at the Cross roads" I see the Christ figure on a cross, or in many ways the initiation between life and death we go through when we make that final leap towards our Ancestors and spirit world. Just my guess, still a good way to get some rituals going on this thread!
Actually I had a close friend during high school, suddenly one week he starting hanging around with the "White kids" who wore all black and claimed they were Devil Worshipers. Suddenly he started wearing black too, and wore a silver goat icon around his neck. I asked him what was all that about? He said he had this dream one nite, and in the dream the devil came up behind him and shot him.
He laid on the ground and watched as the blood poured out of his head, and the Devil's feet standing next to his face. The Devil lifted him up, touch his head and healed him. From there he swore his allegiance.
I never knew what to make of that story, until I met the person who "converted" him- he was this long haired Latino, with tattoos all over and rings all over his face. He was actually very perceptive and said he knew how to read people's auras. He never tried to convert me into anything, in fact one day out of the blue he said he did what he did so he could learn to be more like me. I never understood those words either, until he gave me this book titled "The cosmic christ" which I never did read because I thought he was trying to convert me into something and this book was one of his tools.
I suspected later on -like the story I told about "the Jesus robe" under another thread, that this person too was using the "Devil" as his robe to convert people. If it was true he knew how to read auras then naturally he was able to sense spiritual weakness among certain people. His group did invite me to a seance once, which I also declined. It took place at a grave site close to our school, I was having enough problems as it was at home with spirits and I wasn't about to go open up any more pandora boxes.
But as Bro. Darkside knows more about, they used a certain book of hymns to invoke spirits, I can't recall the name but it was popular for that crowd back in the 90s. I remember the diagrams and drawings mostly.
I also had the death dream before too. Actually more than once. Strangely enough, in my dream I was in a club and P.Diddy was sitting right in front of me with 2 females who were whispering in his ear. Just then, a Gunman came into the club, he was aiming for Diddy and instead I go shot, once in the head and again through the chest. I felt lifeless, like my body was a glove I had just slid off my hand and threw to the ground. My head hit the table like an empty canister, it made a hollowing sound and it bounced for awhile and then settled. I laid there for awhile hearing the drowned out screams and people running. And all I could say to myself was, I never thought I get shot in a club, I don't even go to clubs...this might be why.
The funny thing, this dream was years before P. Diddy's shooting incident in NY, but at first I took it to mean that I shouldn't get involved with music as heavy as I was planning at that time. But the shocker here is that I managed the reenact this scene anyway! It was at club Visions here in Atlanta, and a client asked me to tag along during BadBoy weekend to take photos of P.Diddy and the first "making of the band" group. And there I was, sitting behind him, while 2 females were sitting with him talking in his ear. The amount of Women trying to throw themselves at this Brotha, it didn't even phase him, but all the distractions made me forget I dreamt this very scene years ago, it wasn't until I got home that I remembered.
Maybe in some alternate Universe I did get shot that night, who knows. Maybe the dream had already steered me away from my real killer. But I've also heard that people like P. Diddy are part of a homosexual sect that knows a great deal of occult magic to protect themselves too. I've even wondered how he's managed to remain scarless after the Biggie and Tupac incident.
Just some thoughts...
I've never seen the Devil in a dream, but I've seen many Devils in my dreams...and sometimes I am one of them, I am the eshu of my family, the fire starter and the rain bringer. Many know of me, but they do not know me- they forget my face only to remember my shadow. I embrace the greatest of all darkness and deaths, I sleep on the surface of the sun invoking all the Creators of all the Gods, I ask them only for short words I can hold in memory, they tell me to spit out the sweet tasting flesh of the fruit, and instead bite into it's bitter seed.
Yes we talk to our inners Gods and Genies through poetry- the harmonic tongue of our Ancients. "
When I hear that term "the Black Man at the Cross roads" I see the Christ figure on a cross, or in many ways the initiation between life and death we go through when we make that final leap towards our Ancestors and spirit world. Just my guess, still a good way to get some rituals going on this thread!
Actually I had a close friend during high school, suddenly one week he starting hanging around with the "White kids" who wore all black and claimed they were Devil Worshipers. Suddenly he started wearing black too, and wore a silver goat icon around his neck. I asked him what was all that about? He said he had this dream one nite, and in the dream the devil came up behind him and shot him.
He laid on the ground and watched as the blood poured out of his head, and the Devil's feet standing next to his face. The Devil lifted him up, touch his head and healed him. From there he swore his allegiance.
I never knew what to make of that story, until I met the person who "converted" him- he was this long haired Latino, with tattoos all over and rings all over his face. He was actually very perceptive and said he knew how to read people's auras. He never tried to convert me into anything, in fact one day out of the blue he said he did what he did so he could learn to be more like me. I never understood those words either, until he gave me this book titled "The cosmic christ" which I never did read because I thought he was trying to convert me into something and this book was one of his tools.
I suspected later on -like the story I told about "the Jesus robe" under another thread, that this person too was using the "Devil" as his robe to convert people. If it was true he knew how to read auras then naturally he was able to sense spiritual weakness among certain people. His group did invite me to a seance once, which I also declined. It took place at a grave site close to our school, I was having enough problems as it was at home with spirits and I wasn't about to go open up any more pandora boxes.
But as Bro. Darkside knows more about, they used a certain book of hymns to invoke spirits, I can't recall the name but it was popular for that crowd back in the 90s. I remember the diagrams and drawings mostly.
I also had the death dream before too. Actually more than once. Strangely enough, in my dream I was in a club and P.Diddy was sitting right in front of me with 2 females who were whispering in his ear. Just then, a Gunman came into the club, he was aiming for Diddy and instead I go shot, once in the head and again through the chest. I felt lifeless, like my body was a glove I had just slid off my hand and threw to the ground. My head hit the table like an empty canister, it made a hollowing sound and it bounced for awhile and then settled. I laid there for awhile hearing the drowned out screams and people running. And all I could say to myself was, I never thought I get shot in a club, I don't even go to clubs...this might be why.
The funny thing, this dream was years before P. Diddy's shooting incident in NY, but at first I took it to mean that I shouldn't get involved with music as heavy as I was planning at that time. But the shocker here is that I managed the reenact this scene anyway! It was at club Visions here in Atlanta, and a client asked me to tag along during BadBoy weekend to take photos of P.Diddy and the first "making of the band" group. And there I was, sitting behind him, while 2 females were sitting with him talking in his ear. The amount of Women trying to throw themselves at this Brotha, it didn't even phase him, but all the distractions made me forget I dreamt this very scene years ago, it wasn't until I got home that I remembered.
Maybe in some alternate Universe I did get shot that night, who knows. Maybe the dream had already steered me away from my real killer. But I've also heard that people like P. Diddy are part of a homosexual sect that knows a great deal of occult magic to protect themselves too. I've even wondered how he's managed to remain scarless after the Biggie and Tupac incident.
Just some thoughts...
I've never seen the Devil in a dream, but I've seen many Devils in my dreams...and sometimes I am one of them, I am the eshu of my family, the fire starter and the rain bringer. Many know of me, but they do not know me- they forget my face only to remember my shadow. I embrace the greatest of all darkness and deaths, I sleep on the surface of the sun invoking all the Creators of all the Gods, I ask them only for short words I can hold in memory, they tell me to spit out the sweet tasting flesh of the fruit, and instead bite into it's bitter seed.
Yes we talk to our inners Gods and Genies through poetry- the harmonic tongue of our Ancients. "
16 June 2016 01:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"In this piece the Devil is played by a Black Woman, which perhaps is more accurate in the context of the Goddesses of Africa that can be invoked by musicians for musical knowledge. Hathor comes to mind.
But it's this very spirit in blues and jazz that MJ tried to recapture in Thriller, and the unsuccessful "blood and the dance floor." Such does come from a Euro misunderstanding of African spirituality which to them has to do with the realm of Satan and the undead. But since the guitar is an African invention, and Africans are spiritual mediums, all our instruments were first used in ceremony to draw out and wake our Ancestors so they can come and meet with us.
It's not unknown for a white female to get possessed during a rock concert and start taking her clothes off, because this is what spirits do when they earn a new body. The strumming of a guitar is not very different from the strumming of the vocal chords, which is why most song writers find it easier to write by guitar, the tones blend well with the human voice. So the same science behind the "lion's roar" is found here as well, the vibrations of the strings manipulates dimensional barriers. The Universe is composed of vibrations anyway, and since the spirit world sits behind this sheet of reality any instrument that causes that sheet or fabric to flinch just enough for something to peek through is a good invocation instrument.
Here's some of the Gnawa Music Bro. BlackBird is speaking about.
I've learned also from other musicians that sometimes we will study the patterns of West African and Eastern music and use those melodies in hiphop and R&B, some of these rhythms are essential, because if we can't feel it, it's not a hit. Something in the chant of the lyrics or the chant of the music has to touch us. "
https://youtu.be/niekQY7WByw
But it's this very spirit in blues and jazz that MJ tried to recapture in Thriller, and the unsuccessful "blood and the dance floor." Such does come from a Euro misunderstanding of African spirituality which to them has to do with the realm of Satan and the undead. But since the guitar is an African invention, and Africans are spiritual mediums, all our instruments were first used in ceremony to draw out and wake our Ancestors so they can come and meet with us.
It's not unknown for a white female to get possessed during a rock concert and start taking her clothes off, because this is what spirits do when they earn a new body. The strumming of a guitar is not very different from the strumming of the vocal chords, which is why most song writers find it easier to write by guitar, the tones blend well with the human voice. So the same science behind the "lion's roar" is found here as well, the vibrations of the strings manipulates dimensional barriers. The Universe is composed of vibrations anyway, and since the spirit world sits behind this sheet of reality any instrument that causes that sheet or fabric to flinch just enough for something to peek through is a good invocation instrument.
Here's some of the Gnawa Music Bro. BlackBird is speaking about.
I've learned also from other musicians that sometimes we will study the patterns of West African and Eastern music and use those melodies in hiphop and R&B, some of these rhythms are essential, because if we can't feel it, it's not a hit. Something in the chant of the lyrics or the chant of the music has to touch us. "
https://youtu.be/niekQY7WByw
https://youtu.be/niekQY7WByw
16 June 2016 01:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Hail up Queen True, I especially liked the music you choose for your site, deep inner rhythm and the poetry of "Jah" music has a special potent affect on African consciousness. Which is why Hip-Hop can be traced back to it.
Many say Buju Banton sounds like a Lion speaking, we must realize there is a specific reason why such tones have an effect. The head chiefs who often lead African spiritual ceremonies also had deep raspy voices. The strength in a Man's voice is likened to the strength of a rope, the thicker it is, the more it can hold.
Thus in a spiritual ceremony a strong male voice is used to "invoke" the response from the Females. Some have even suggested that a strong enough voice can cause a Woman to climax- going back to sex magic, a Male with that ability is King. Remember the voices of Barry White and even Teddy Pendergrass had a profound affect on the female gender, and still does. When Teddy yells "turn it off!" in the song "Turn off the lights" That is the summoning voice of the Male African King, it is the same voice used to command the winds, and the same voice used for the mythical Jesus Christ who also commanded nature in the same way African Shaman still do today.
The voices of Tupac, Biggie, Jah Rule, DMX, even Busta Rhymes owe their worth to the Spiritual Males of Africa who designed the strong voice as a template of spiritual power. Also known as the "lion's roar" this heavy tone for speaking was also needed to speak above the sounds of drumming.
But you know some of our best "invokers" in this culture were actually blues and jazz singers. Take Robert Johnson for example, so many people living will tell us this Man indeed sold his soul to the Devil. Some would even swear to it.
According to a legend known to modern Blues fans, Robert Johnson was a young black man living on a plantation in rural Mississippi. Branded with a burning desire to become a great blues musician, he was instructed to take his guitar to a crossroad near Dockery's plantation at midnight. There he was met by a large black man (the Devil) who took the guitar from Johnson, tuned the guitar so that he could play anything that he wanted, and handed it back to him in return for his soul. Within less than a year's time, in exchange for his everlasting soul, Robert Johnson became the king of the Delta blues singers, able to play, sing, and create the greatest blues anyone had ever heard.
There's a scene in the movie "Black Snake Moan" with Samuel L. Jackson that demonstrates perfectly when most folks truly believe Robert Johnson sold his soul to the Devil, it was because of the affect his music had on people.
What happened? When Johnson played his guitar, people who were known for being sinless, saved, Christian, of the lord- in christ- started dancing seductively, sometimes stripping, pouring drinks on themselves, grinding on their partners....why? It had to be the Devil, it just had to be. Because what would turn good Christian folks out like that? "
Many say Buju Banton sounds like a Lion speaking, we must realize there is a specific reason why such tones have an effect. The head chiefs who often lead African spiritual ceremonies also had deep raspy voices. The strength in a Man's voice is likened to the strength of a rope, the thicker it is, the more it can hold.
Thus in a spiritual ceremony a strong male voice is used to "invoke" the response from the Females. Some have even suggested that a strong enough voice can cause a Woman to climax- going back to sex magic, a Male with that ability is King. Remember the voices of Barry White and even Teddy Pendergrass had a profound affect on the female gender, and still does. When Teddy yells "turn it off!" in the song "Turn off the lights" That is the summoning voice of the Male African King, it is the same voice used to command the winds, and the same voice used for the mythical Jesus Christ who also commanded nature in the same way African Shaman still do today.
The voices of Tupac, Biggie, Jah Rule, DMX, even Busta Rhymes owe their worth to the Spiritual Males of Africa who designed the strong voice as a template of spiritual power. Also known as the "lion's roar" this heavy tone for speaking was also needed to speak above the sounds of drumming.
But you know some of our best "invokers" in this culture were actually blues and jazz singers. Take Robert Johnson for example, so many people living will tell us this Man indeed sold his soul to the Devil. Some would even swear to it.
According to a legend known to modern Blues fans, Robert Johnson was a young black man living on a plantation in rural Mississippi. Branded with a burning desire to become a great blues musician, he was instructed to take his guitar to a crossroad near Dockery's plantation at midnight. There he was met by a large black man (the Devil) who took the guitar from Johnson, tuned the guitar so that he could play anything that he wanted, and handed it back to him in return for his soul. Within less than a year's time, in exchange for his everlasting soul, Robert Johnson became the king of the Delta blues singers, able to play, sing, and create the greatest blues anyone had ever heard.
There's a scene in the movie "Black Snake Moan" with Samuel L. Jackson that demonstrates perfectly when most folks truly believe Robert Johnson sold his soul to the Devil, it was because of the affect his music had on people.
What happened? When Johnson played his guitar, people who were known for being sinless, saved, Christian, of the lord- in christ- started dancing seductively, sometimes stripping, pouring drinks on themselves, grinding on their partners....why? It had to be the Devil, it just had to be. Because what would turn good Christian folks out like that? "
16 June 2016 01:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" ONE OF BEST PRAYERS BOOK THAT I AND MANY PEOPLE USE IN THEIR MAGIKAL WORKS IS THE "POWERS OF THE PSALMS" BY ANNA RIVA. THE BOOK OF PSALMS IS ACTUALLY A SPELL CHAPTER OF THE "BIBLE" WHICH A MAJORITY OF THE PSALMS WRITTEN BY AHKENATEN. ALSO I LISTENING TO UNDERGROUND MUSIC (HOUSE, TRANCE, AMBIENT ETC..) IS ALSO GOOD AS THE ENERGY IN A HOUSE CLUB IS AMAZING. BUT REMEMBER THE BEST PRAYERS AND RITUALS ARE THE ONE YOU MAKE YOURSELF BECAUSE IT IS YOURS AND IT WILL/MAY HAVE MORE ENERGY. "
16 June 2016 01:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Yes Knowledge Seed you are right, Reggae music does have a profound affect of the spirit of African people. I would say all music that contains heavy bassy drum patterns and chanting affects the African spirit. Heavy brass instruments and plucking sounds also affect the African spirit. Notice even in some R&B songs there is a point where the Artists will start humming harmonically, this is similar to what Tibetan Monks do. Even R.Kelly has learned that secret about the African spirit.
Those sounds invoke something is us, which is why we hear our ladies saying "oouu, that's my song!" It's also the way we are tricked, because a good musician can lay down the right keys, chords, bass lines and chants, only to have ignorant lyrics mixed above them. Women don't dance to the lyrics, they dance to the rhythm. But the lyrics are soaked into our subconscious, we recite the ignorant lyrics to invoke the spirit and harmony of the song- "you remind me of my jeeeeppp" we sing the ignorant words invoke the bass line of the song, the drum patterns of the music simulate the fire spirit in all African people.
Manipulating spiritual energy starts with knowing how we manipulate other elements like water, fire, earth and air. We must understanding by breathing we manipulate the air, water, fire and the earth of the Human body. So therefore just by breathing we are manipulating the spirit as well.
I enjoy working with water, but I'm sure others on Destee have perfect examples of rituals that deal with other elements that can be used to manipulate spiritual energy.
Water for me is the diviner of my personal space, and my psychic connectivity. Knowing how to invoke the spirit of water is also a well documented science that now a growing field in metaphysics.
There are several types of rituals I do with water. One is the spiritual bath, the other is invoking my spirit by drinking water, there is also a water meditation I do under the shower that help to "clear the mind."
I realized that these principles work depending on the intent, so if the intent is to manipulate spiritual energy, be firm as possible about that intent.
"Today I will experience my life outside this body"
saying this outloud over a glass of water before drinking it will lead to a different state of consciousness.
The spiritual bath helps to create a stronger aura and emotional body. A simple bath with regular vinegar and salt will strengthen the aura, yet what we invoke during the bath will make the difference as well. The goal is to awaken the Genie within you. Or to channel in, summon down and invoke the Ancestral spirits that will manipulate the spiritual energy around you.
Water is a liquid portal into the spirit world, think of it as a river that run directly from this world into the world of our Ancestors. No different than the cans with strings we made as children to use as phones. Why are most people inspired to sing in the shower, it is the water itself that is stained the harmonics coming from the spirit world. It is also true that spirits use water as eyes to see into our world. Knowing this we should use this bath to speak directly with those we wish to invoke. As an Artist I get all my ideas from new project through the water. We can contact any spirit of all different occupations.
I would ask directly: "how do I master this life more completely?"
I've asked this before myself while meditating in the bath, allowing time for an answer, images will comes to mind, and some people actually hear voices. This was what M. Knight's fairytale "lady in water" was about.
In my vision I saw myself designing symbols that appeared my dreams, each symbol was a pattern used to invoke certain spirits and elements. Those symbols are also known as sigils, many of which I've used so far very successfully. But different people get different types of info from these water rituals. A friend of mine was lead to using the Tarot, and she was a Christian before I told her about the spiritual bath. A simple thing like lavender oil sprayed around the room freed her from negative spirits that were trying to keep her in one frame of thought. She became a professional reader in less than a month.
The drum also manipulate spiritual energy directly. Each strike of the drum, with an intent held in the mind or spoken outloud in speech creates a bubble of thought form energy that can open up portals for spiritual contact. I used an African drum I purchased from a Man who handmade them to chance away a negative spirit before. Sometimes it feels like they fear the sound take comes from it. The drum is also a good tool for expressing anger and commanding fire.
It's really time for us as a collective to learn more about this, because how many of us are going to work for whitey- not knowing what he's doing in the office all day? Perhaps something like this... "
https://youtu.be/4tJWDRIQjFU
Those sounds invoke something is us, which is why we hear our ladies saying "oouu, that's my song!" It's also the way we are tricked, because a good musician can lay down the right keys, chords, bass lines and chants, only to have ignorant lyrics mixed above them. Women don't dance to the lyrics, they dance to the rhythm. But the lyrics are soaked into our subconscious, we recite the ignorant lyrics to invoke the spirit and harmony of the song- "you remind me of my jeeeeppp" we sing the ignorant words invoke the bass line of the song, the drum patterns of the music simulate the fire spirit in all African people.
Manipulating spiritual energy starts with knowing how we manipulate other elements like water, fire, earth and air. We must understanding by breathing we manipulate the air, water, fire and the earth of the Human body. So therefore just by breathing we are manipulating the spirit as well.
I enjoy working with water, but I'm sure others on Destee have perfect examples of rituals that deal with other elements that can be used to manipulate spiritual energy.
Water for me is the diviner of my personal space, and my psychic connectivity. Knowing how to invoke the spirit of water is also a well documented science that now a growing field in metaphysics.
There are several types of rituals I do with water. One is the spiritual bath, the other is invoking my spirit by drinking water, there is also a water meditation I do under the shower that help to "clear the mind."
I realized that these principles work depending on the intent, so if the intent is to manipulate spiritual energy, be firm as possible about that intent.
"Today I will experience my life outside this body"
saying this outloud over a glass of water before drinking it will lead to a different state of consciousness.
The spiritual bath helps to create a stronger aura and emotional body. A simple bath with regular vinegar and salt will strengthen the aura, yet what we invoke during the bath will make the difference as well. The goal is to awaken the Genie within you. Or to channel in, summon down and invoke the Ancestral spirits that will manipulate the spiritual energy around you.
Water is a liquid portal into the spirit world, think of it as a river that run directly from this world into the world of our Ancestors. No different than the cans with strings we made as children to use as phones. Why are most people inspired to sing in the shower, it is the water itself that is stained the harmonics coming from the spirit world. It is also true that spirits use water as eyes to see into our world. Knowing this we should use this bath to speak directly with those we wish to invoke. As an Artist I get all my ideas from new project through the water. We can contact any spirit of all different occupations.
I would ask directly: "how do I master this life more completely?"
I've asked this before myself while meditating in the bath, allowing time for an answer, images will comes to mind, and some people actually hear voices. This was what M. Knight's fairytale "lady in water" was about.
In my vision I saw myself designing symbols that appeared my dreams, each symbol was a pattern used to invoke certain spirits and elements. Those symbols are also known as sigils, many of which I've used so far very successfully. But different people get different types of info from these water rituals. A friend of mine was lead to using the Tarot, and she was a Christian before I told her about the spiritual bath. A simple thing like lavender oil sprayed around the room freed her from negative spirits that were trying to keep her in one frame of thought. She became a professional reader in less than a month.
The drum also manipulate spiritual energy directly. Each strike of the drum, with an intent held in the mind or spoken outloud in speech creates a bubble of thought form energy that can open up portals for spiritual contact. I used an African drum I purchased from a Man who handmade them to chance away a negative spirit before. Sometimes it feels like they fear the sound take comes from it. The drum is also a good tool for expressing anger and commanding fire.
It's really time for us as a collective to learn more about this, because how many of us are going to work for whitey- not knowing what he's doing in the office all day? Perhaps something like this... "
https://youtu.be/4tJWDRIQjFU
https://youtu.be/4tJWDRIQjFU
16 June 2016 01:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Awakening the powers within does being with certain frequencies, the harmonic resonance of a prayer, even those chanted in Africa, China and India can awaken a presence within. Certain patterns in art also can give us an higher state of consciousness, a buzz, a high an out of body experience can be created from listening to the sacred music of Native Americans. They all relate somehow to the "intent" of the creator. Some keys are created with the intent to keep the Genie within enslaved inside the lamp, while some keys are created to free the Genie.
To me, musicians, visual artists and poets are some of the most magical and power Africans on earth- they are living bibles of true spiritual power when the intent is used correctly for the fulfillment of our spiritual truth which is we are Creators and masters of light and darkness. We use these mediums to invoke things that help us remember who we really are.
What is amazing is how the "intent" can be so carefully hidden away, that sometimes even the artist themselves doesn't know. Case and point- India Arie's song - I am ready for love. This song also invokes the Ancestors, it is a call and response between the the flesh and the spirit world. This song is in fact a prayer for initiation.
To me, musicians, visual artists and poets are some of the most magical and power Africans on earth- they are living bibles of true spiritual power when the intent is used correctly for the fulfillment of our spiritual truth which is we are Creators and masters of light and darkness. We use these mediums to invoke things that help us remember who we really are.
What is amazing is how the "intent" can be so carefully hidden away, that sometimes even the artist themselves doesn't know. Case and point- India Arie's song - I am ready for love. This song also invokes the Ancestors, it is a call and response between the the flesh and the spirit world. This song is in fact a prayer for initiation.
16 June 2016 01:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Knowledge Seed- I always say the best prayers and rituals are the ones we design for ourselves based upon our understanding. What I really try to stress, is our intent. "The Lord's Prayer" for example has an intent that is programmed in our minds, just as the "Pledge of Allegiance" has has intent.
In the following prayer the "intent" of the Lord's prayer is changed to include something more specific and personal for Black people in today's time.
My Mothers and Fathers alive and well in the spirit world, your names are sacred
your kingdom rests within this body, your actions are done through me
in this world and in all others worlds I will travel
lend me your power, my mind is a container for your spiritual energy
forgive me for forgetting our truth
as I will forgive those who surrendered also to the illusion
lead me away by force from those will drain us of our energy
deliver my body, my soul and my mind from all deceptions
I am the kingdom of my Ancestors, your powers work from within me, as my powers work from with you, in death and in life, in darkness and in light.
For me, I've found the best invocations through imagery, art and music only because my spirit is drawn to those. The idea is the same with picking up the phone to call someone. Who are we calling and why? Sometimes we just call people to say hello, or even to ask for a favor. The same is true here, sometimes we pray to invoke someone in the spiritual realm just to say hello, just to know they are there. We just want to "hear" them.
Hearing is the key for me, "key" as in a musical tone, a vibration. I know certain words produce certain phenomena in the form of vibrations. Images also hold certain vibrations in place, they record the patterns in sound.
In the following prayer the "intent" of the Lord's prayer is changed to include something more specific and personal for Black people in today's time.
My Mothers and Fathers alive and well in the spirit world, your names are sacred
your kingdom rests within this body, your actions are done through me
in this world and in all others worlds I will travel
lend me your power, my mind is a container for your spiritual energy
forgive me for forgetting our truth
as I will forgive those who surrendered also to the illusion
lead me away by force from those will drain us of our energy
deliver my body, my soul and my mind from all deceptions
I am the kingdom of my Ancestors, your powers work from within me, as my powers work from with you, in death and in life, in darkness and in light.
For me, I've found the best invocations through imagery, art and music only because my spirit is drawn to those. The idea is the same with picking up the phone to call someone. Who are we calling and why? Sometimes we just call people to say hello, or even to ask for a favor. The same is true here, sometimes we pray to invoke someone in the spiritual realm just to say hello, just to know they are there. We just want to "hear" them.
Hearing is the key for me, "key" as in a musical tone, a vibration. I know certain words produce certain phenomena in the form of vibrations. Images also hold certain vibrations in place, they record the patterns in sound.
16 June 2016 01:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"We invoke our spirit and our spirits with our words, our thoughts, our behaviors are our magical rituals that bring forth and summon the energies that aid our creation. Invocation can be the use of words-prayer, the use of the body for possession through dance, music and even art- to "call forth" or "call in" a spiritual presence.
We are more conscious of how invocation works through prayer. Yet not as aware of how invocation works through our daily actions, through eating and drinking and even through sex. But even through prayer, the art and style of calling up spiritual powers is somehow masked by the "intent" of the religious ceremony."
https://destee.com/threads/invocation.51545/
" bow to the Arahants, the perfected human beings, Godmen.
I bow to the Siddhas, liberated bodiless souls, God.
I bow to the Acharyas, the masters and heads of congregations.
I bow to the Upadhyayas, the spiritual teachers.
I bow to the spiritual practitioners in the universe, Sadhus.
This fivefold obeisance mantra, Destroys all sins and obstacles,
And of all auspicious repetitions, Is the first and foremost.
-Jainism. Namokar Mantra
As with most prayers in Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism etc., the intent appears to be a begging and pleading for help from a higher a source. The act of worship in the form of a solicitation for higher council. We attempt to invoke and call down a "holy spirit" we assume has the authority over producers of our suffering.
Such intent is far different from the shamanistic powers of the Ifa, those who can use invocation of lightning as an instrument of warfare. Terrible rain, wind storms, all manners of natural phenomena. The bodies piled high, all those who had the misfortune of gazing in the bloodshot red eyes of a certain African Shaman known for his ability to invoke death on those who dared psychic battles with him.
It would seem the invocations of common religions are well scripted in order to keep the essential essence of self in servitude instead of in total awareness of the spiritual energy we can command to affect matter and the spirits that hold it together.
Let's study the common sex practices in western culture for example. In most cases this is also a ritual of servitude especially for the female- the Goddess energy. The sexual invocations of western culture is the sex magic used to keep the relationship between "master and slave" alive. Yet if the intent is changed, sex as a ritual becomes just as powerful as the Shamanistic rituals of West Africa. The greatest problem presented here is with the male ego, who in the western world has declared himself ruler so long as the females remain in ignorance away from their "ase" stored in the breasts and backside.
It is from these areas Man draws power during sex.
Yet in order to keep the female ignorant instead of educated, some Men who thirst for power will much rather perform sex magic with other Men, because "the intent" has to be held in the mind of both members involved. Men in these secret ritualistic cultures have sex to invoke spirits that grant them wealth and power. Because of ego and fear such esoteric Men would never educate Women about the true nature of their sexual practices. They are afraid to practice such magic with Women because "the intent" between Men and Women is usually different. The lust for wealth and power is not often shared between sexes.
This is however untrue for spiritual Africans who know and understand how spirit works and how consciousness moves and lives inside all things. Sexual traditions have always been very sacred. The vagina very sacred, the penis very sacred. Because these are tools used to invoke interdimensional spirits.
In some tribal conditions, the Husbands and Wifes are instructed to have sex at a certain time in order to invoke certain Ancestors, Gods and spirits that would bring upon a successful harvest. And if the harvest is unsuccessful, a Husband or two might be scolded for not pleasing the Wife properly.
What we might regard as superstition, actually comes from a real understanding of nature, nature spirits, cosmic spirits and even alien spirits that interact with us all the time through sexual energy. These are the Genies/Gods of Aladdin's lamp. This lamp is the stomach where spirits flows from, as well as the penis. The Genie lives in the "milky way" of the Male and Female geni-talia.
The Communal sex practices and orgies of great African Kings have been perverted by the minds of European idiots who are spiritless in their understanding of nature in the first place. Yet these same minds will brag about the Homosexual sexual practices and orgies of Rome that were common during Rome's rain of power and dominance.
We should be mindful of our sexual practices, and very mindful of the "intent" held in the minds of both members involved. Because the spirits we invoke during our rituals arrive like babies being born, birthed by the intent of it's parents. It is this power that also gives life to our avatars, daemons, logos and sigils. How common is it to use "God" or "Jesus" during sex? Whatever words we use, creates the imagery or sigils of power that will possess the spirits we invoke with our spiritual energy exchange.
We also invoke through the ritual of food and drink. Like sex, a meal is never just a meal. We are feeding the body, and the body runs on spiritual energy as well. The speaking of "grace" the prayer used to bless food before eating it, a giving of thanks to our Creators for their ability to provide food is also a way we invoke spirits into the food we eat and drinks we drink.
The invocation rituals done on food sends communication imagery into the mind. During a family meal, the ritual of grace doesn't end after "amen" the absorption of the intent continues as each person speaks over and around the food. Unless food is contained by some type of reflective crystal or matter, our thought energy can affect it. Which is why most good liquors are kept in what? In glass bottles to contain the "spirits" within.
Sacred vessels like the calabash is still used in Africa and the Caribbean as a way to pour libations to the spirits before a special event, meeting or ritual. Yet because the calabash is so widely used as a container for a variety of things, most people are unaware of how sacred it is, especially without considering the shape of the fruit is often likened to the shape of a Woman, the vagina, breasts and backside. It was first used in rituals because of this natural shape.
Just as well, the calabash can be used to make ritualistic musical instruments that are then used to invoke spirits. Like food, music is also used to call down or call up the Gods within. It is not common to hear stories about certain types of trees used to make drums because that tree "spoke" with the musician and asked to be made into a drum. The communication with nature and unanimated forms is not alien to our Ancestors. In fact, a tree has very useful things to say about medicine, which is something modern Man is still trying to figure out.
How should we communicate with God? If we are willing to free ourselves from the illusions of life, we have to learn by the use of our own personal and spiritual understanding - how to invoke - call in the Genies that will wake us from this dream. Perhaps it begins with an acknowledgment of our own Godhood, and then at least an attempt to use that Godhood to target an area in our life that needs improvement."
We are more conscious of how invocation works through prayer. Yet not as aware of how invocation works through our daily actions, through eating and drinking and even through sex. But even through prayer, the art and style of calling up spiritual powers is somehow masked by the "intent" of the religious ceremony."
https://destee.com/threads/invocation.51545/
" bow to the Arahants, the perfected human beings, Godmen.
I bow to the Siddhas, liberated bodiless souls, God.
I bow to the Acharyas, the masters and heads of congregations.
I bow to the Upadhyayas, the spiritual teachers.
I bow to the spiritual practitioners in the universe, Sadhus.
This fivefold obeisance mantra, Destroys all sins and obstacles,
And of all auspicious repetitions, Is the first and foremost.
-Jainism. Namokar Mantra
As with most prayers in Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism etc., the intent appears to be a begging and pleading for help from a higher a source. The act of worship in the form of a solicitation for higher council. We attempt to invoke and call down a "holy spirit" we assume has the authority over producers of our suffering.
Such intent is far different from the shamanistic powers of the Ifa, those who can use invocation of lightning as an instrument of warfare. Terrible rain, wind storms, all manners of natural phenomena. The bodies piled high, all those who had the misfortune of gazing in the bloodshot red eyes of a certain African Shaman known for his ability to invoke death on those who dared psychic battles with him.
It would seem the invocations of common religions are well scripted in order to keep the essential essence of self in servitude instead of in total awareness of the spiritual energy we can command to affect matter and the spirits that hold it together.
Let's study the common sex practices in western culture for example. In most cases this is also a ritual of servitude especially for the female- the Goddess energy. The sexual invocations of western culture is the sex magic used to keep the relationship between "master and slave" alive. Yet if the intent is changed, sex as a ritual becomes just as powerful as the Shamanistic rituals of West Africa. The greatest problem presented here is with the male ego, who in the western world has declared himself ruler so long as the females remain in ignorance away from their "ase" stored in the breasts and backside.
It is from these areas Man draws power during sex.
Yet in order to keep the female ignorant instead of educated, some Men who thirst for power will much rather perform sex magic with other Men, because "the intent" has to be held in the mind of both members involved. Men in these secret ritualistic cultures have sex to invoke spirits that grant them wealth and power. Because of ego and fear such esoteric Men would never educate Women about the true nature of their sexual practices. They are afraid to practice such magic with Women because "the intent" between Men and Women is usually different. The lust for wealth and power is not often shared between sexes.
This is however untrue for spiritual Africans who know and understand how spirit works and how consciousness moves and lives inside all things. Sexual traditions have always been very sacred. The vagina very sacred, the penis very sacred. Because these are tools used to invoke interdimensional spirits.
In some tribal conditions, the Husbands and Wifes are instructed to have sex at a certain time in order to invoke certain Ancestors, Gods and spirits that would bring upon a successful harvest. And if the harvest is unsuccessful, a Husband or two might be scolded for not pleasing the Wife properly.
What we might regard as superstition, actually comes from a real understanding of nature, nature spirits, cosmic spirits and even alien spirits that interact with us all the time through sexual energy. These are the Genies/Gods of Aladdin's lamp. This lamp is the stomach where spirits flows from, as well as the penis. The Genie lives in the "milky way" of the Male and Female geni-talia.
The Communal sex practices and orgies of great African Kings have been perverted by the minds of European idiots who are spiritless in their understanding of nature in the first place. Yet these same minds will brag about the Homosexual sexual practices and orgies of Rome that were common during Rome's rain of power and dominance.
We should be mindful of our sexual practices, and very mindful of the "intent" held in the minds of both members involved. Because the spirits we invoke during our rituals arrive like babies being born, birthed by the intent of it's parents. It is this power that also gives life to our avatars, daemons, logos and sigils. How common is it to use "God" or "Jesus" during sex? Whatever words we use, creates the imagery or sigils of power that will possess the spirits we invoke with our spiritual energy exchange.
We also invoke through the ritual of food and drink. Like sex, a meal is never just a meal. We are feeding the body, and the body runs on spiritual energy as well. The speaking of "grace" the prayer used to bless food before eating it, a giving of thanks to our Creators for their ability to provide food is also a way we invoke spirits into the food we eat and drinks we drink.
The invocation rituals done on food sends communication imagery into the mind. During a family meal, the ritual of grace doesn't end after "amen" the absorption of the intent continues as each person speaks over and around the food. Unless food is contained by some type of reflective crystal or matter, our thought energy can affect it. Which is why most good liquors are kept in what? In glass bottles to contain the "spirits" within.
Sacred vessels like the calabash is still used in Africa and the Caribbean as a way to pour libations to the spirits before a special event, meeting or ritual. Yet because the calabash is so widely used as a container for a variety of things, most people are unaware of how sacred it is, especially without considering the shape of the fruit is often likened to the shape of a Woman, the vagina, breasts and backside. It was first used in rituals because of this natural shape.
Just as well, the calabash can be used to make ritualistic musical instruments that are then used to invoke spirits. Like food, music is also used to call down or call up the Gods within. It is not common to hear stories about certain types of trees used to make drums because that tree "spoke" with the musician and asked to be made into a drum. The communication with nature and unanimated forms is not alien to our Ancestors. In fact, a tree has very useful things to say about medicine, which is something modern Man is still trying to figure out.
How should we communicate with God? If we are willing to free ourselves from the illusions of life, we have to learn by the use of our own personal and spiritual understanding - how to invoke - call in the Genies that will wake us from this dream. Perhaps it begins with an acknowledgment of our own Godhood, and then at least an attempt to use that Godhood to target an area in our life that needs improvement."
https://destee.com/threads/invocation.51545/
16 June 2016 01:33
Margus Meigo replied to Alvin Kobin's comment.
kui lapsed uka ukat voi lumesõda mängivad, voi m uudipalliga, siis sellest küll keegi uudist ei tee, kugi reaalne olulisus ja ilusus võib selle lapse mängus olla olulisem, kuna teeb seda tasuta, siiralt ja heast tahtest,
16 June 2016 01:30
Margus Meigo replied to Alvin Kobin's comment.
Viimane pirn oli, et President raakis olulistel teemadel, kodukaitse ja nato jne raadios, eriti tihti ta pole eks.. ja siis lasevad jargimsena otsa 3 4 eri spordi "uudist" pea 10 minutit, Ringhaalingust, ... alustades sellest, et keegi kaptenist oli tylis ja nyyd ei tea kas sobib uueks sponsoriks votta Saku Õlu voi mitte
Mngii eraldatus peaks ikka olema olulise ja absurdse vahel
Mngii eraldatus peaks ikka olema olulise ja absurdse vahel
16 June 2016 01:27
Margus Meigo replied to Alvin Kobin's comment.
Sada protsenti nous. Ja kujuta, siis panevad veel uudistesse ka kuidas keegi paadiga soitis voi ligu lasi, suurte rahade eest, riik veel nagu peaks maksma..
16 June 2016 01:24
Margus Meigo replied to Patrick Ajei's comment.
Group: Skull and bones 322
do you know anyone who is not frauded by these onliners ?15 June 2016 22:36
Margus Meigo commented on Sandra Tarocchi's post.
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i wonder what is Her personalty15 June 2016 22:34
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Group: Grupo Mentes Abertas
or more15 June 2016 22:12
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Group: Grupo Mentes Abertas
Amazing!15 June 2016 22:08
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Group: Mystery School of All Ages
I like universal plans15 June 2016 22:03
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Alt's comment.
from Estonia point of view, the CNN is considered Blue Media, more professional in morals, more honest,
and BCC is considered red, leftist, morales, fake.. but still important..
how these news networks are looked in Your jard ?
and BCC is considered red, leftist, morales, fake.. but still important..
how these news networks are looked in Your jard ?
15 June 2016 19:57
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Alt's comment.
(some more hippy related info.. links just for examples..)
But yea, newer confuse liberals and hippies, hippies are nothing like liberals, they are opposite, radical, friendly, godly, and... yes, may liberals have been tring to become hippie, but... it is about mindset, ... they can just imitate outside at most..
www.clemencyreport.org/freedom-candidate-timothy-tyler/
http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/11/26/mandatory-minimums-end-lives
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/1nq6jv/my_friend_got_a_life_sentence_for_lsd_conspiracy/
http://www.hightimes.com/read/lsd-lifer-dies-prison-42
+++
So info from here>
http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/lsd-penalties-for-sale-and-possession.html
First Offense
Not less than 5 yrs, and not more than 40 yrs.
Fine not to exceed $2 million.
Second Offense
Not less than 10 yrs, and not more than life.
Fine not to exceed $4 million
Trafficking 10 grams or more mixture:
First Offense
Not less than 10 yrs, and not more than life in prison.
Fine not to exceed $4 million.
Second Offense
Not less than 20 yrs, and not more than life.
Fine of not more than $8 million.
More than Two Prior Offenses: Life in Prison !!!
Possession With Intent to Sell: 3-15 years in jail and a fine of $2000 to $300,000.
Possession for Personal Use (typically more than 3 tabs): 1-3 years in jail and a fine of $1000 to $25,000
///
And they also say (based on law that lies) >
" LSD is federally defined as a Schedule I drug, which means it: Has a high potential for abuse Has no currently accepted medical use in treatment Is unsafe for consumption "
But in truth,
just to be considered as Hallucinogen (like natural Magic mushrooms)
the parameters are:
L. E. Hollister's criteria for establishing that a drug is hallucinogenic are as follows:
1 in proportion to other effects, changes in thought, perception, and mood should predominate;
2 intellectual or memory impairment should be minimal;
stupor, narcosis, or excessive stimulation should not be an integral effect;
3 autonomic nervous system side effects should be minimal; and
4 addictive craving should be absent.
(Hollister is from National Institute on Drug Abuse, that means, the conservative about drugs..)
This is from here, actually worth link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen
It is also one of the most potent alcoholism cure... i guess this is threat also..
Probably to much for today, but if someone is interested...
But yea, newer confuse liberals and hippies, hippies are nothing like liberals, they are opposite, radical, friendly, godly, and... yes, may liberals have been tring to become hippie, but... it is about mindset, ... they can just imitate outside at most..
www.clemencyreport.org/freedom-candidate-timothy-tyler/
http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/11/26/mandatory-minimums-end-lives
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/1nq6jv/my_friend_got_a_life_sentence_for_lsd_conspiracy/
http://www.hightimes.com/read/lsd-lifer-dies-prison-42
+++
So info from here>
http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/lsd-penalties-for-sale-and-possession.html
First Offense
Not less than 5 yrs, and not more than 40 yrs.
Fine not to exceed $2 million.
Second Offense
Not less than 10 yrs, and not more than life.
Fine not to exceed $4 million
Trafficking 10 grams or more mixture:
First Offense
Not less than 10 yrs, and not more than life in prison.
Fine not to exceed $4 million.
Second Offense
Not less than 20 yrs, and not more than life.
Fine of not more than $8 million.
More than Two Prior Offenses: Life in Prison !!!
Possession With Intent to Sell: 3-15 years in jail and a fine of $2000 to $300,000.
Possession for Personal Use (typically more than 3 tabs): 1-3 years in jail and a fine of $1000 to $25,000
///
And they also say (based on law that lies) >
" LSD is federally defined as a Schedule I drug, which means it: Has a high potential for abuse Has no currently accepted medical use in treatment Is unsafe for consumption "
But in truth,
just to be considered as Hallucinogen (like natural Magic mushrooms)
the parameters are:
L. E. Hollister's criteria for establishing that a drug is hallucinogenic are as follows:
1 in proportion to other effects, changes in thought, perception, and mood should predominate;
2 intellectual or memory impairment should be minimal;
stupor, narcosis, or excessive stimulation should not be an integral effect;
3 autonomic nervous system side effects should be minimal; and
4 addictive craving should be absent.
(Hollister is from National Institute on Drug Abuse, that means, the conservative about drugs..)
This is from here, actually worth link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen
It is also one of the most potent alcoholism cure... i guess this is threat also..
Probably to much for today, but if someone is interested...
http://www.clemencyreport.org/freedom-candidate-timothy-tyler/
15 June 2016 19:52
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Alt's comment.
If you have time look at this videos under these series : http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
15 June 2016 19:35
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Alt's comment.
nice one,
of-course, main problem is that these kind of punks have guns in first place..
there should be forced psychedelic treatment made for people who go to rob people like this..
but it seems this world is more about keeping evil alive, and arresting millions of cannabis users who cure their mind and body, and then stick them in with same jail with a real criminals... so you can produce every year potentially over a million new criminals.. who learn from the Pros about how to hate the world .
There is even youth people get life in prison for LSD, the mind expanding drug with no real violent danger or addiction properties .. and people who rape, beat up and rob, get few years only to get back to work..
Just extra thoughts...
____
well.. as long we here, we will make a change on it..
most dangerous thing about psychedelic drugs is that one might get arrested and that is not teached to kids or medical professionals how and why it should be used, so that plant is wasted or people get confused in brain when these plants make one conform one self .. and one does not like one self to look at in third person so they start to fight against it and become paranoid if they are atheists as they start to feel like someone hears their thoughts... well.. of-course they are.. this is normal thing, this is how world is made, most people is not aware just about basic of human holy deising.. everyone spirits can hear anyone’s body thoughts and see the deeds.. this is normal.. nothing to become paranoid about..
main reason these things are denied, is recourse they make people smarter and see things... what they work so hard to hide from you, besides spiritual and godly.. but they help to shape human eating, food, media habits.. all to the direction of benefit away from entertainment.. and this true Liberal gov is afraid of..
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/12/health/lsd-brain-imaging/
of-course, main problem is that these kind of punks have guns in first place..
there should be forced psychedelic treatment made for people who go to rob people like this..
but it seems this world is more about keeping evil alive, and arresting millions of cannabis users who cure their mind and body, and then stick them in with same jail with a real criminals... so you can produce every year potentially over a million new criminals.. who learn from the Pros about how to hate the world .
There is even youth people get life in prison for LSD, the mind expanding drug with no real violent danger or addiction properties .. and people who rape, beat up and rob, get few years only to get back to work..
Just extra thoughts...
____
well.. as long we here, we will make a change on it..
most dangerous thing about psychedelic drugs is that one might get arrested and that is not teached to kids or medical professionals how and why it should be used, so that plant is wasted or people get confused in brain when these plants make one conform one self .. and one does not like one self to look at in third person so they start to fight against it and become paranoid if they are atheists as they start to feel like someone hears their thoughts... well.. of-course they are.. this is normal thing, this is how world is made, most people is not aware just about basic of human holy deising.. everyone spirits can hear anyone’s body thoughts and see the deeds.. this is normal.. nothing to become paranoid about..
main reason these things are denied, is recourse they make people smarter and see things... what they work so hard to hide from you, besides spiritual and godly.. but they help to shape human eating, food, media habits.. all to the direction of benefit away from entertainment.. and this true Liberal gov is afraid of..
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/12/health/lsd-brain-imaging/
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/12/health/lsd-brain-imaging/
15 June 2016 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on Russell Byrd's post.
oh..religious freedom..
15 June 2016 18:47
Margus Meigo commented on Russell Byrd's post.
And he is not in prison jet ?
15 June 2016 18:47
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Alt's comment.
lol, was just able to use Your Good Guys link right now on hes page
https://www.facebook.com/russell.byrd.14
https://www.facebook.com/russell.byrd.14
15 June 2016 18:46
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Alt's comment.
I think it is totally fine anyone to have any kind of gun or tank, as long they have issued a permit, that they need or know how to handle it,
also, they should be perhaps reviewed every after 5 years or so, about if they have become depressed, alcoholic or just angry on levels that state should take on hold of ones assault F2000 or sniper DSR-50 .. and not so much of an danger, that they should use them wrong but for sing that:
"man with respect when messed up does not allow one self to handle guns that should be honour of the ones who deserve it (and to make law more easy,that if someone will go loony, beats up wife or attacks cops.. then last thing one needs is these kind of toys..)"
it still sounds as to much control to get permit and to check-up.. but it will help for general mental health.
Emotional tests should also be made to people, as the ones emotionally not grown up should still grow before handling man toys
but well, am LSD tripping hippy so am pretty soft on these things
also, they should be perhaps reviewed every after 5 years or so, about if they have become depressed, alcoholic or just angry on levels that state should take on hold of ones assault F2000 or sniper DSR-50 .. and not so much of an danger, that they should use them wrong but for sing that:
"man with respect when messed up does not allow one self to handle guns that should be honour of the ones who deserve it (and to make law more easy,that if someone will go loony, beats up wife or attacks cops.. then last thing one needs is these kind of toys..)"
it still sounds as to much control to get permit and to check-up.. but it will help for general mental health.
Emotional tests should also be made to people, as the ones emotionally not grown up should still grow before handling man toys
but well, am LSD tripping hippy so am pretty soft on these things
15 June 2016 18:23
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Alt's comment.
New life Church chick was hard on crooks :p
interesting list in here,
surprised to see, that Estonia is pretty green.
(can arrange list by pressing arrow)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation#Comparison
Also this was interesting find>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denel_NTW-20
interesting list in here,
surprised to see, that Estonia is pretty green.
(can arrange list by pressing arrow)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation#Comparison
Also this was interesting find>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denel_NTW-20
15 June 2016 18:08
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Alt's comment.
haha, this is legal and it sounds like anti tank riffle, in a way.
"United States, they can be purchased and owned like any other Title I rifle by an American citizen at age 18. The rifles use McMillan stocks and extraordinarily thick Krieger barrels bearing an 18 lb (8.2 kg) muzzle brake. Overall, depending on options, the rifles weigh from 85 to 110 pounds (39 to 50 kg) and are therefore only useful for shooting from a bench rest or heavy bipod"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.950_JDJ
how is it compared to these kinds:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20_mm_caliber
I mean, can You shoot through a armoured car with this kind of large game hunting rifles ?
Can the bullets of the first one, be replaced with similar ones as the anti tank ones ... so theoretically, when one buys it, they can shoot through president or police armour car ?
"United States, they can be purchased and owned like any other Title I rifle by an American citizen at age 18. The rifles use McMillan stocks and extraordinarily thick Krieger barrels bearing an 18 lb (8.2 kg) muzzle brake. Overall, depending on options, the rifles weigh from 85 to 110 pounds (39 to 50 kg) and are therefore only useful for shooting from a bench rest or heavy bipod"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.950_JDJ
how is it compared to these kinds:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20_mm_caliber
I mean, can You shoot through a armoured car with this kind of large game hunting rifles ?
Can the bullets of the first one, be replaced with similar ones as the anti tank ones ... so theoretically, when one buys it, they can shoot through president or police armour car ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.950_JDJ
15 June 2016 17:56
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Alt's comment.
wonder if this toy is allowed to take in air-plane or it is considered also as gun http://www.pinfireguns.com/
http://www.pinfireguns.com/
15 June 2016 17:41
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Alt's comment.
OMG, look at that list
the 2mm Kolibri :D amazing things has been made
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_handgun_and_rifle_cartridges
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rifle_cartridges
the 2mm Kolibri :D amazing things has been made
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_handgun_and_rifle_cartridges
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rifle_cartridges
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_handgun_and_rifle_cartridges
15 June 2016 17:37
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Alt's comment.
I am surprised that wikipedia has sometimes pretty extensive information
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300_AAC_Blackout_(7.62%C3%9735mm)
Do You update Wiki as well?
Or adding things to Talk pages where aspects of articles are talked or argued, sometimes more interesting then article it self (on every article upper left corner... some country wikis have not implemented easy editing mode, but after few tryes one can get hand on it... it was made a bit harder to edit in purpose i think, so kids would not flood it.. )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300_AAC_Blackout_(7.62%C3%9735mm)
Do You update Wiki as well?
Or adding things to Talk pages where aspects of articles are talked or argued, sometimes more interesting then article it self (on every article upper left corner... some country wikis have not implemented easy editing mode, but after few tryes one can get hand on it... it was made a bit harder to edit in purpose i think, so kids would not flood it.. )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300_AAC_Blackout_(7.62%C3%9735mm)
15 June 2016 17:35
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Alt's comment.
Not knowing guns is pretty small mistake for them compared to the spectrum of whole other things they not willing to understand or does not have balls to.
15 June 2016 17:20
Margus Meigo replied to Roosi Raudsepp's comment.
Kuid mis teemast arvad?
15 June 2016 16:40
Margus Meigo replied to Roosi Raudsepp's comment.
Ilus
15 June 2016 16:39
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Alt's comment.
if people would want these guns, to go and sort out gangs wants and for all.. this would be something., but to shot Your neighbour over an argument or at some defenceless migrants or...
fact is that NO ONE, ever, newer will come to attack USA on land, and it has nothing to do with people in home having guns, but the fact that USA would just annihilate this country from existence
Numbers are pretty good.. when comparing with Afghanistan and some other war zones but still... lets get our mind and heart fixed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States
fact is that NO ONE, ever, newer will come to attack USA on land, and it has nothing to do with people in home having guns, but the fact that USA would just annihilate this country from existence
Numbers are pretty good.. when comparing with Afghanistan and some other war zones but still... lets get our mind and heart fixed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States
15 June 2016 15:44
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Alt's comment.
But still, do these punks really need M16s and that sort ,
... if it would be up to me, am would hand them a slingshot\s
if society would be alight in head, emotionally grown up and not a communists, then am would agree, them to have a personal tank in home as long they not mess up my road,
but for current state of mind, when over 30% of people in USA specially are under various mood and psychiatric medications, and as in rest of the world, another 50% top of that are just violent, undeveloped reasoning, alcoholics or cowards... then last thing am would want them fears to be excuse for a criminals to have a gun.
So then police and all sorts, will have right to shoot on spot and come on hard, when is needed...
generally we should not be afraid of our government but know, that they will keep us safe when we play our part (that is> learning how we can make State safe, including sorting out useless and sick in head politicians or puppet masters).. but for some reason, up mentioned Gangs, just grow it seems.. what’s up with that..
It is kind of fking hilarious, that one needs to make a study, to see if human is mentally sick when they start to shoot random people
wondering about this kind of things, IF they are sick... puts in jeopardy the study stuff own mental development..
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4318286
in the link:
From this review we critically addressed 4 central assumptions that frequently arise in the aftermath of mass shootings:
(1) Mental illness causes gun violence,
(2) Psychiatric diagnosis can predict gun crime before it happens,
(3) US mass shootings teach us to fear mentally ill loners, and
(4) Because of the complex psychiatric histories of mass shooters, gun control “won’t prevent” another Tucson, Aurora, or Newtown.
Each of these statements is certainly true in particular instances. Evidence strongly suggests that mass shooters are often mentally ill and socially marginalized.
... if it would be up to me, am would hand them a slingshot\s
if society would be alight in head, emotionally grown up and not a communists, then am would agree, them to have a personal tank in home as long they not mess up my road,
but for current state of mind, when over 30% of people in USA specially are under various mood and psychiatric medications, and as in rest of the world, another 50% top of that are just violent, undeveloped reasoning, alcoholics or cowards... then last thing am would want them fears to be excuse for a criminals to have a gun.
So then police and all sorts, will have right to shoot on spot and come on hard, when is needed...
generally we should not be afraid of our government but know, that they will keep us safe when we play our part (that is> learning how we can make State safe, including sorting out useless and sick in head politicians or puppet masters).. but for some reason, up mentioned Gangs, just grow it seems.. what’s up with that..
It is kind of fking hilarious, that one needs to make a study, to see if human is mentally sick when they start to shoot random people
wondering about this kind of things, IF they are sick... puts in jeopardy the study stuff own mental development..
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4318286
in the link:
From this review we critically addressed 4 central assumptions that frequently arise in the aftermath of mass shootings:
(1) Mental illness causes gun violence,
(2) Psychiatric diagnosis can predict gun crime before it happens,
(3) US mass shootings teach us to fear mentally ill loners, and
(4) Because of the complex psychiatric histories of mass shooters, gun control “won’t prevent” another Tucson, Aurora, or Newtown.
Each of these statements is certainly true in particular instances. Evidence strongly suggests that mass shooters are often mentally ill and socially marginalized.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4318286
15 June 2016 15:38
Margus Meigo replied to Matt Alt's comment.
Well yea, would have been nice for Regan to know difference of assault rifle and machine..
From all people..
From all people..
15 June 2016 15:28
Margus Meigo replied to Tarmo Kruusimäe's comment.
peaks olema kohustuslik individuaalselt kaamera ees kysida neil, miks,
see voib olla tosine, riigivastane, reeturlik tegu, voi muidu personaalne filosoofiline, kuid seda peab teadma...
see voib olla tosine, riigivastane, reeturlik tegu, voi muidu personaalne filosoofiline, kuid seda peab teadma...
15 June 2016 13:53
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
ah these softies regans.. wanna take our gun toys away...
But yea.. can You imagine, we are border in Russia, who has been in war with us hundreds of years and occupied and .. we got no guns.. so yeah..
But taking in to account, that USA has gang groups with 30 000 to 100 000 members, from who some you have to kill to join..
so yeah.. perhaps we should take some action on their direction, with US special forces.. perhaps Hillary can do that .. women’s like to clean up house once they get in charge.. and kick out everyone who is bastards with no debate or logic ..once women is angered.. and Older woman.. she will get angry specially smart.. am hope.
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/10-of-the-most-lethal-gangs-in-america/
http://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/11-biggest-gangs-in-america-358781/
So is the threat really outside.. or have they come in long time ago... why Millitary intel and army afraid to sort out all of them ?
Why they bother FBI with these people who needs some proper heavy hand to handle...
this have to be fixed.. as minds generate energy and thought field... and if it is not rooted out.. it will stay and convert people...
But yea.. can You imagine, we are border in Russia, who has been in war with us hundreds of years and occupied and .. we got no guns.. so yeah..
But taking in to account, that USA has gang groups with 30 000 to 100 000 members, from who some you have to kill to join..
so yeah.. perhaps we should take some action on their direction, with US special forces.. perhaps Hillary can do that .. women’s like to clean up house once they get in charge.. and kick out everyone who is bastards with no debate or logic ..once women is angered.. and Older woman.. she will get angry specially smart.. am hope.
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/10-of-the-most-lethal-gangs-in-america/
http://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/11-biggest-gangs-in-america-358781/
So is the threat really outside.. or have they come in long time ago... why Millitary intel and army afraid to sort out all of them ?
Why they bother FBI with these people who needs some proper heavy hand to handle...
this have to be fixed.. as minds generate energy and thought field... and if it is not rooted out.. it will stay and convert people...
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/10-of-the-most-lethal-gangs-in-america/
15 June 2016 13:40
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
hahahaha :D
15 June 2016 13:29
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
We need Bazookas, some RPG\s, and to be proper safe, as terrorises fly with air-planes, we need some Anti-aircrafters perhaps FIM-92 Stinger will do, for people on wealth-ware have do do with older Strela-2 or something like that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIM-92_Stinger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIM-92_Stinger
15 June 2016 13:27
Margus Meigo commented on Sophia Love's post.
Peace from Estonia
15 June 2016 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on Sophia Love's post.
Really strange.. when am on communication with spirits, they NEWER use "quotation marks" .. so i wonder, how is that accomplished, how you know when there is some ?
Just curious, as You use them a lot,
Just curious, as You use them a lot,
15 June 2016 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And now, from the Egypt ISIS, to the leader of Science isis..
Pseudo voi mitte.. aga point on tal motlemiseks paljusi..
known for her critical views on genetic engineering and neo-Darwinism.[ She has authored or co-authored a number of publications, including 10 books, such as The Rainbow and the Worm, the Physics of Organisms (1993, 1998), Genetic Engineering: Dream or Nightmare? (1998, 1999), Living with the Fluid Genome (2003) and Living Rainbow H2O (2012).
Ho received a Ph. D. in Biochemistry in 1967 from Hong Kong University, was Postdoctoral Fellow in Biochemical Genetics, University of California, San Diego, from 1968 to 1972, Senior Research Fellow in Queen Elizabeth College, Lecturer in Genetics (from 1976) and Reader in Biology (from 1985) in the Open University, and since retiring in June 2000 Visiting Professor of Biophysics in Catania University, Sicily.[3][4][5]
Institute of Science in Society
Ho was a co-founder and director of the Institute of Science in Society (ISIS), an interest group that campaigns against what it sees as unethical uses of biotechnology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mae-Wan_Ho
Pseudo voi mitte.. aga point on tal motlemiseks paljusi..
known for her critical views on genetic engineering and neo-Darwinism.[ She has authored or co-authored a number of publications, including 10 books, such as The Rainbow and the Worm, the Physics of Organisms (1993, 1998), Genetic Engineering: Dream or Nightmare? (1998, 1999), Living with the Fluid Genome (2003) and Living Rainbow H2O (2012).
Ho received a Ph. D. in Biochemistry in 1967 from Hong Kong University, was Postdoctoral Fellow in Biochemical Genetics, University of California, San Diego, from 1968 to 1972, Senior Research Fellow in Queen Elizabeth College, Lecturer in Genetics (from 1976) and Reader in Biology (from 1985) in the Open University, and since retiring in June 2000 Visiting Professor of Biophysics in Catania University, Sicily.[3][4][5]
Institute of Science in Society
Ho was a co-founder and director of the Institute of Science in Society (ISIS), an interest group that campaigns against what it sees as unethical uses of biotechnology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mae-Wan_Ho
14 June 2016 18:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
... ja veel muuseas, lisada juure>
https://books.google.ee/books?id=nSH_AQAAQBAJ&pg=PA122&lpg=PA122&dq=isis+egypt+famine&source=bl&ots=jTQjnitcZR&sig=1HOcJ2ZqT13IfH-qzmp5cgAciRA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjs06Cg2afNAhXkIpoKHZGiAGMQ6AEITjAJ#v=onepage&q=isis%20egypt%20famine&f=false
https://books.google.ee/books?id=nSH_AQAAQBAJ&pg=PA122&lpg=PA122&dq=isis+egypt+famine&source=bl&ots=jTQjnitcZR&sig=1HOcJ2ZqT13IfH-qzmp5cgAciRA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjs06Cg2afNAhXkIpoKHZGiAGMQ6AEITjAJ#v=onepage&q=isis%20egypt%20famine&f=false
https://books.google.ee/books?id=nSH_AQAAQBAJ&pg=PA122&lpg=PA122&dq=isis+egypt+famine&source=bl&ots=jTQjnitcZR&sig=1HOcJ2ZqT13IfH-qzmp5cgAciRA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjs06Cg2afNAhXkIpoKHZGiAGMQ6AEITjAJ#v=onepage&q=isis%20egypt%20famine&f=false
14 June 2016 18:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
a bit more about time in near modern time..
|The first mechanical clock was completed in China in AD 725 by Yi Xing and Liang Lingzan.
The escapement mechanism had been known and used in medieval China, as the Song dynasty horologist and engineer Su Song (1020–1101) incorporated it into his astronomical clock-tower of Kaifeng in 1088.
His astronomical clock and rotating armillary sphere still relied on the use of flowing water (i.e. hydraulics), while European clockworks of the following centuries shed this method for a more efficient driving power of weights, in addition to the escapement mechanism.
A mercury clock, described in the Libros del saber, a Spanish work from 1277 consisting of translations and paraphrases of Arabic works, is sometimes quoted as evidence for Muslim knowledge of a mechanical clock. The first mercury powered automatic clock was invented by Ibn Khalaf al-Muradi
//
in 1176 Sens Cathedral installed a ‘horologe’ but the mechanism used is unknown.
Between 1280 and 1320, there is an increase in the number of references to clocks and horologes in church records, and this probably indicates that a new type of clock mechanism had been devised.
In 1283, a large clock was installed at Dunstable Priory; its location above the rood screen suggests that it was not a water clock.[citation needed] In 1292, Canterbury Cathedral installed a 'great horloge'. Over the next 30 years there are mentions of clocks at a number of ecclesiastical institutions in England, Italy, and France. In 1322, a new clock was installed in Norwich, an expensive replacement for an earlier clock installed in 1273. This had a large (2 metre) astronomical dial with automata and bells. The costs of the installation included the full-time employment of two clockkeepers for two years.
....niipalju vaeva, et..
Besides the Chinese astronomical clock of Su Song in 1088 mentioned above, in Europe there were the clocks constructed by Richard of Wallingford in St Albans by 1336, and by Giovanni de Dondi in Padua from 1348 to 1364. They no longer exist, but detailed descriptions of their design and construction survive, and modern reproductions have been made
Dondi's clock was a seven-sided construction, 1 metre high, with dials showing the time of day, including minutes, the motions of all the known planets, an automatic calendar of fixed and movable feasts, and an eclipse prediction hand rotating once every 18 years
|The first mechanical clock was completed in China in AD 725 by Yi Xing and Liang Lingzan.
The escapement mechanism had been known and used in medieval China, as the Song dynasty horologist and engineer Su Song (1020–1101) incorporated it into his astronomical clock-tower of Kaifeng in 1088.
His astronomical clock and rotating armillary sphere still relied on the use of flowing water (i.e. hydraulics), while European clockworks of the following centuries shed this method for a more efficient driving power of weights, in addition to the escapement mechanism.
A mercury clock, described in the Libros del saber, a Spanish work from 1277 consisting of translations and paraphrases of Arabic works, is sometimes quoted as evidence for Muslim knowledge of a mechanical clock. The first mercury powered automatic clock was invented by Ibn Khalaf al-Muradi
//
in 1176 Sens Cathedral installed a ‘horologe’ but the mechanism used is unknown.
Between 1280 and 1320, there is an increase in the number of references to clocks and horologes in church records, and this probably indicates that a new type of clock mechanism had been devised.
In 1283, a large clock was installed at Dunstable Priory; its location above the rood screen suggests that it was not a water clock.[citation needed] In 1292, Canterbury Cathedral installed a 'great horloge'. Over the next 30 years there are mentions of clocks at a number of ecclesiastical institutions in England, Italy, and France. In 1322, a new clock was installed in Norwich, an expensive replacement for an earlier clock installed in 1273. This had a large (2 metre) astronomical dial with automata and bells. The costs of the installation included the full-time employment of two clockkeepers for two years.
....niipalju vaeva, et..
Besides the Chinese astronomical clock of Su Song in 1088 mentioned above, in Europe there were the clocks constructed by Richard of Wallingford in St Albans by 1336, and by Giovanni de Dondi in Padua from 1348 to 1364. They no longer exist, but detailed descriptions of their design and construction survive, and modern reproductions have been made
Dondi's clock was a seven-sided construction, 1 metre high, with dials showing the time of day, including minutes, the motions of all the known planets, an automatic calendar of fixed and movable feasts, and an eclipse prediction hand rotating once every 18 years
14 June 2016 18:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Unlike other funerary texts, however, it was reserved only for pharaohs (until the 21st Dynasty almost exclusively) or very favored nobility.
..The underworld is divided into twelve hours of the night..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amduat
>>
Ancient Egyptians used sundials that "divided a sunlit day into 10 parts plus two "twilight hours" in the morning and evening." The Greek astronomer, Andronicus of Cyrrhus, oversaw the construction of a horologion called the Tower of the Winds in Athens during the first century BCE. This structure tracked a 24-hour day using both sundials and mechanical hour indicators.
Ancient Sumer and India also divided days into either one twelfth of the time between sunrise and sunset or one twenty-fourth of a full day. In either case the division reflected the widespread use of a duodecimal numbering system. The importance of 12 has been attributed to the number of lunar cycles in a year. In China, the whole day was divided into twelve parts.
//
and extra for time:
water clocks were also used, and might actually predate sundials overall.
These measured the passing of time by water dripping out a narrow opening — not precise enough to keep time over many days, but enough to track basic time for a day or so, and then be refilled and restarted at a set time (as judged by the sun, or a sundial).
The Egyptians came up with the 12-hour system, and they used sundials during the day and water clocks at night. Because they used two separate clocks, it made sense to divide their day up into two twelve-hour periods, albeit not the same ones we use today.
When the first mechanical clocks came along, they were actually 24-hour clocks. The 12-hour design came later, eventually taking over almost all analog clocks. However, some countries (e.g. Italy) tended to prefer the 24-hour clock and stuck with it.
So technically, 12-hour clocks came first, if not in the same way that we know them — but the first clocks we would recognise were mechanical 24-hour clocks.
//
Water clocks, along with sundials and hourglasses, are likely to be the oldest time-measuring instruments, with the only exceptions being the vertical gnomon and the day-counting tally stick.
Where and when they were first invented is not known, and given their great antiquity it may never be. The bowl-shaped outflow is the simplest form of a water clock and is known to have existed in Babylon and in Egypt around the 16th century BC.
Other regions of the world, including India and China, also have early evidence of water clocks, but the earliest dates are less certain. Some authors, however, claim that water clocks appeared in China as early as 4000 BC
//
jaa... aga kust see point ikka tuleb.. et 12..
..The underworld is divided into twelve hours of the night..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amduat
>>
Ancient Egyptians used sundials that "divided a sunlit day into 10 parts plus two "twilight hours" in the morning and evening." The Greek astronomer, Andronicus of Cyrrhus, oversaw the construction of a horologion called the Tower of the Winds in Athens during the first century BCE. This structure tracked a 24-hour day using both sundials and mechanical hour indicators.
Ancient Sumer and India also divided days into either one twelfth of the time between sunrise and sunset or one twenty-fourth of a full day. In either case the division reflected the widespread use of a duodecimal numbering system. The importance of 12 has been attributed to the number of lunar cycles in a year. In China, the whole day was divided into twelve parts.
//
and extra for time:
water clocks were also used, and might actually predate sundials overall.
These measured the passing of time by water dripping out a narrow opening — not precise enough to keep time over many days, but enough to track basic time for a day or so, and then be refilled and restarted at a set time (as judged by the sun, or a sundial).
The Egyptians came up with the 12-hour system, and they used sundials during the day and water clocks at night. Because they used two separate clocks, it made sense to divide their day up into two twelve-hour periods, albeit not the same ones we use today.
When the first mechanical clocks came along, they were actually 24-hour clocks. The 12-hour design came later, eventually taking over almost all analog clocks. However, some countries (e.g. Italy) tended to prefer the 24-hour clock and stuck with it.
So technically, 12-hour clocks came first, if not in the same way that we know them — but the first clocks we would recognise were mechanical 24-hour clocks.
//
Water clocks, along with sundials and hourglasses, are likely to be the oldest time-measuring instruments, with the only exceptions being the vertical gnomon and the day-counting tally stick.
Where and when they were first invented is not known, and given their great antiquity it may never be. The bowl-shaped outflow is the simplest form of a water clock and is known to have existed in Babylon and in Egypt around the 16th century BC.
Other regions of the world, including India and China, also have early evidence of water clocks, but the earliest dates are less certain. Some authors, however, claim that water clocks appeared in China as early as 4000 BC
//
jaa... aga kust see point ikka tuleb.. et 12..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amduat
14 June 2016 17:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oh .. and: Khepre.
Siblings: Atum, Ra
Khepre was one of the first gods, self-created, and his name means “he who has come into being,” Atum took his form as he rose out of the chaotic waters of the Nun in a creation myth. It was thought that Khepre rolled the sun across the sky in the same way a dung beetle rolls balls of dung across the ground.
Also known as, Khepri, Khepra, Khepera, Khepre was a creator god depicted as a Scarab beetle or as a man with a scarab for a head. The Egyptians observed young scarab beetles emerging spontaneously from balls of dung and associated them with the process of creation.
http://www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/khepri.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khepri
strange: There was no cult devoted to Khepri
Siblings: Atum, Ra
Khepre was one of the first gods, self-created, and his name means “he who has come into being,” Atum took his form as he rose out of the chaotic waters of the Nun in a creation myth. It was thought that Khepre rolled the sun across the sky in the same way a dung beetle rolls balls of dung across the ground.
Also known as, Khepri, Khepra, Khepera, Khepre was a creator god depicted as a Scarab beetle or as a man with a scarab for a head. The Egyptians observed young scarab beetles emerging spontaneously from balls of dung and associated them with the process of creation.
http://www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/khepri.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khepri
strange: There was no cult devoted to Khepri
14 June 2016 17:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Fast who is who: http://discoveringegypt.com/ancient-egyptian-gods-and-goddesses/
Nut was the mother of Osiris, Isis, Seth, and Nephythys, Nut is usually shown in human form; her elongated body symbolizing the sky. Each limb represents a cardinal point as her body stretches over the earth. Nut swallowed the setting sun (Ra) each evening and gave birth to him each morning. She is often depicted on the ceilings of tombs, on the inside lid of coffins, and on the ceilings of temples.
Shu was the husband of Tefnut and the father of Nut and Geb. He and his wife were the first gods created by Atum. Shu was the god of the air and sunlight or, more precisely, dry air and his wife represented moisture. He was normally depicted as a man wearing a headdress in the form of a plume, which is also the hieroglyph for his name.
Shu’s function was to hold up the body of the goddess Nun and separate the sky from the earth. He was not a solar deity but his role in providing sunlight connected him to Ra. Indeed, he was one of the few gods who escaped persecution under the heretic king Akhenaten.
Geb was the father of Osiris, Isis, Seth, and Nephythys, and was a god without a cult. As an Earth god he was associated with fertility and it was believed that earthquakes were the laughter of Geb. He is mentioned in the Pyramid Texts as imprisoning the buried dead within his body.
AmunAmun
Also Known as Amen, Amun, Ammon (Aamen!)
Amun was the chief Theban deity whose power grew as the city of Thebes grew from an unimportant village, in the old Kingdom, to a powerful metropolis in the Middle and New Kingdoms. He rose to become the patron of the Theban pharaohs and was eventually combined with sun god, Ra who had been the dominant deity of the Old Kingdom to become Amun-Ra, King of the Gods and ruler of the Great Ennead.
Amun’s name means “Hidden One, Mysterious of Form,” and although he is most often represented as a human wearing a double plumed crown, he is sometimes depicted as a ram or a goose. The implication is that his true identity can never be revealed.
Karnak was Amun’s chief temple, but his fame extended well beyond the boundaries of Egypt. His cult spread to Ethiopia, Nubia, Libya, and through much of Palestine. The Greeks thought he was an Egyptian manifestation of their god Zeus. Even Alexander the Great thought it worthwhile consulting the oracle of Amun.
Isis
A very important figure in the ancient world, Isis was the wife of Osiris and mother of Horus. She was associated with funeral rites and said to have made the first mummy from the dismembered parts of Osiris. As the enchantress who resurrected Osiris and gave birth to Horus, she was also the giver of life, a healer and protector of kings.
Isis is represented with a throne on her head and sometimes shown breastfeeding the infant Horus. In this manifestation she was known as “Mother of God.” To the Egyptians she represented the ideal wife and mother; loving, devoted, and caring.
Her most famous temple is at Philae though her cult spread throughout the Medi-terranean world and, during the Roman period, extended as far as northern Europe. There was even a temple dedicated to her in London.
Nut was the mother of Osiris, Isis, Seth, and Nephythys, Nut is usually shown in human form; her elongated body symbolizing the sky. Each limb represents a cardinal point as her body stretches over the earth. Nut swallowed the setting sun (Ra) each evening and gave birth to him each morning. She is often depicted on the ceilings of tombs, on the inside lid of coffins, and on the ceilings of temples.
Shu was the husband of Tefnut and the father of Nut and Geb. He and his wife were the first gods created by Atum. Shu was the god of the air and sunlight or, more precisely, dry air and his wife represented moisture. He was normally depicted as a man wearing a headdress in the form of a plume, which is also the hieroglyph for his name.
Shu’s function was to hold up the body of the goddess Nun and separate the sky from the earth. He was not a solar deity but his role in providing sunlight connected him to Ra. Indeed, he was one of the few gods who escaped persecution under the heretic king Akhenaten.
Geb was the father of Osiris, Isis, Seth, and Nephythys, and was a god without a cult. As an Earth god he was associated with fertility and it was believed that earthquakes were the laughter of Geb. He is mentioned in the Pyramid Texts as imprisoning the buried dead within his body.
AmunAmun
Also Known as Amen, Amun, Ammon (Aamen!)
Amun was the chief Theban deity whose power grew as the city of Thebes grew from an unimportant village, in the old Kingdom, to a powerful metropolis in the Middle and New Kingdoms. He rose to become the patron of the Theban pharaohs and was eventually combined with sun god, Ra who had been the dominant deity of the Old Kingdom to become Amun-Ra, King of the Gods and ruler of the Great Ennead.
Amun’s name means “Hidden One, Mysterious of Form,” and although he is most often represented as a human wearing a double plumed crown, he is sometimes depicted as a ram or a goose. The implication is that his true identity can never be revealed.
Karnak was Amun’s chief temple, but his fame extended well beyond the boundaries of Egypt. His cult spread to Ethiopia, Nubia, Libya, and through much of Palestine. The Greeks thought he was an Egyptian manifestation of their god Zeus. Even Alexander the Great thought it worthwhile consulting the oracle of Amun.
Isis
A very important figure in the ancient world, Isis was the wife of Osiris and mother of Horus. She was associated with funeral rites and said to have made the first mummy from the dismembered parts of Osiris. As the enchantress who resurrected Osiris and gave birth to Horus, she was also the giver of life, a healer and protector of kings.
Isis is represented with a throne on her head and sometimes shown breastfeeding the infant Horus. In this manifestation she was known as “Mother of God.” To the Egyptians she represented the ideal wife and mother; loving, devoted, and caring.
Her most famous temple is at Philae though her cult spread throughout the Medi-terranean world and, during the Roman period, extended as far as northern Europe. There was even a temple dedicated to her in London.
http://discoveringegypt.com/ancient-egyptian-gods-and-goddesses/
14 June 2016 17:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
a partly complementing sites>
http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/symbols/tyet.htm
http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/famine_stele.htm
List of the names of the gods in the temple of Khnum: Sothis, Anukis, Hapi, Shou, Geb, Nut, Osiris, Horus, Isis, Nephth.
Imhotep, a high official and Renaissance man, revealed to the king that the Nile had its origins in a land consecrated to Khnum and gave an account of the building materials available at Elephantine. Khnum appeared to Djoser in a dream with the promise to end the drought and described how a temple should be built. Grateful, Djoser re-established the cult of Khnum at Elephantine.
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The tyet, tj.t, [1] is an ancient symbol known since the Old Kingdom. It often appears in conjunction with the ankh and the djed-pillar. During the New Kingdom, when the djed became closely associated with Osiris, the tyet, possibly in a parallel development, came to be referred to as the Blood of Isis or the Knot of Isis.
Origin
The origins of the tyet are as mysterious as those of the other ancient symbols, such as the ankh, with which it has some similarities. It is often thought to have represented a divine girdle knot, knots having strong magical properties.[2] Petrie thought of the tyet as a woman's girdle, fuller than the onkh, the man's girdle.[
The tyet was associated with Isis and goddesses identified with her. Thus in the Book of the Dead the tyet is referred to as the name of Mut. At times the loop was replaced by the head of the goddess Hathor, reminiscent of the close connection between Isis and Hathor. A symbol was never merely an inanimate object to the ancient Egyptians. The tyet was a feminine being and had a kind of a life. In the Book of the Dead it helped the deceased on his way:
The tyet gave me her arms. She passed me on to her sister Khebenet and her mother Kehkehet. She set me on this holy path, on which Thoth travelled when he made peace between the two fighters (i.e. Horus and Seth), travelling to Pe and reaching Dep.
Jointly, the two symbols invoked the protection of the gods Isis and Osiris and the eternity of ever-flowing life.[10] The loop of the tyet, like that of the shen, the ankh and the sa-loop, was a magical ring, which in popular belief protected from disease and other ill fortune
http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/symbols/tyet.htm
http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/famine_stele.htm
List of the names of the gods in the temple of Khnum: Sothis, Anukis, Hapi, Shou, Geb, Nut, Osiris, Horus, Isis, Nephth.
Imhotep, a high official and Renaissance man, revealed to the king that the Nile had its origins in a land consecrated to Khnum and gave an account of the building materials available at Elephantine. Khnum appeared to Djoser in a dream with the promise to end the drought and described how a temple should be built. Grateful, Djoser re-established the cult of Khnum at Elephantine.
/
The tyet, tj.t, [1] is an ancient symbol known since the Old Kingdom. It often appears in conjunction with the ankh and the djed-pillar. During the New Kingdom, when the djed became closely associated with Osiris, the tyet, possibly in a parallel development, came to be referred to as the Blood of Isis or the Knot of Isis.
Origin
The origins of the tyet are as mysterious as those of the other ancient symbols, such as the ankh, with which it has some similarities. It is often thought to have represented a divine girdle knot, knots having strong magical properties.[2] Petrie thought of the tyet as a woman's girdle, fuller than the onkh, the man's girdle.[
The tyet was associated with Isis and goddesses identified with her. Thus in the Book of the Dead the tyet is referred to as the name of Mut. At times the loop was replaced by the head of the goddess Hathor, reminiscent of the close connection between Isis and Hathor. A symbol was never merely an inanimate object to the ancient Egyptians. The tyet was a feminine being and had a kind of a life. In the Book of the Dead it helped the deceased on his way:
The tyet gave me her arms. She passed me on to her sister Khebenet and her mother Kehkehet. She set me on this holy path, on which Thoth travelled when he made peace between the two fighters (i.e. Horus and Seth), travelling to Pe and reaching Dep.
Jointly, the two symbols invoked the protection of the gods Isis and Osiris and the eternity of ever-flowing life.[10] The loop of the tyet, like that of the shen, the ankh and the sa-loop, was a magical ring, which in popular belief protected from disease and other ill fortune
http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/symbols/tyet.htm
14 June 2016 17:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Not to confuse with the popularly known ISIS from Egypt
http://www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/isis.html
" Isis was one of the oldest gods or goddesses of ancient Egypt but her origins are unclear. She is sometimes thought to have originated in the Sinai but is is also likely that she was first worshipped as a fetish in the Delta area of Lower Egypt around Busiris, the location of the oldest known cult center to Osiris. However, her cult was not limited to one area, but worshipped in every temple in the land. In fact, the first shrine dedicated specifically to her was built by Nectanebo II in Dynasty Thirty!
Isis
The cult of Isis, the Egyptian goddess, was very popular throughout Egypt, and beyond and she became a goddess of almost limitless attributes. Isis was her Greek name, but she was known to the ancient Egyptians as Aset (or Ast, Iset, Uset), which is usually translated as "(female) of throne" or "Queen of the throne". Her original headdress was an empty throne and as the personification of the throne she was an important source of the Pharaoh's power (as descent was to some degree matrilineal). However, the exact meaning of her name is still disputed. Plutarch suggested that her name meant "knowledge" but another possible translation is "(female) of flesh", i.e. mortal, suggesting that although she was the Queen of the Gods, she had once been a mortal woman. This certainly fits with the mythology surrounding the Ennead which state that Isis and her husband, Osiris, had actually ruled Egypt before the time of the pharaohs. However, the Book of the Dead describes her as "She who gives birth to heaven and earth, knows the orphan, knows the widow, seeks justice for the poor, and shelter for the weak"
http://www.touregypt.net/cleopatr.htm
"Cleopatra had started calling herself the New Isis and was the subject of much gossip. She lived in luxury and had a statue made of gold placed by Caesar, in the temple of Venus Genetrix . Caesar also openly claimed Caesarion as his son. Many were upset that he was planning to marry Cleopatra regardless of the laws against bigamy and marriages to foreigners."
http://www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/isis.html
" Isis was one of the oldest gods or goddesses of ancient Egypt but her origins are unclear. She is sometimes thought to have originated in the Sinai but is is also likely that she was first worshipped as a fetish in the Delta area of Lower Egypt around Busiris, the location of the oldest known cult center to Osiris. However, her cult was not limited to one area, but worshipped in every temple in the land. In fact, the first shrine dedicated specifically to her was built by Nectanebo II in Dynasty Thirty!
Isis
The cult of Isis, the Egyptian goddess, was very popular throughout Egypt, and beyond and she became a goddess of almost limitless attributes. Isis was her Greek name, but she was known to the ancient Egyptians as Aset (or Ast, Iset, Uset), which is usually translated as "(female) of throne" or "Queen of the throne". Her original headdress was an empty throne and as the personification of the throne she was an important source of the Pharaoh's power (as descent was to some degree matrilineal). However, the exact meaning of her name is still disputed. Plutarch suggested that her name meant "knowledge" but another possible translation is "(female) of flesh", i.e. mortal, suggesting that although she was the Queen of the Gods, she had once been a mortal woman. This certainly fits with the mythology surrounding the Ennead which state that Isis and her husband, Osiris, had actually ruled Egypt before the time of the pharaohs. However, the Book of the Dead describes her as "She who gives birth to heaven and earth, knows the orphan, knows the widow, seeks justice for the poor, and shelter for the weak"
http://www.touregypt.net/cleopatr.htm
"Cleopatra had started calling herself the New Isis and was the subject of much gossip. She lived in luxury and had a statue made of gold placed by Caesar, in the temple of Venus Genetrix . Caesar also openly claimed Caesarion as his son. Many were upset that he was planning to marry Cleopatra regardless of the laws against bigamy and marriages to foreigners."
http://www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/isis.html
14 June 2016 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on Vad i Helvete ?'s video.
why people have lost sense of humor
13 June 2016 22:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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mida tapsemad palved on seda kasulikumad13 June 2016 21:54
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Kaasik's post.
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Mis tapsemalt halb tundub ja miks ?13 June 2016 21:54
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's post.
Mul suleti yt konto ara vahepeal, sest Eestlase Waterboy kunagi ammu kazaast leitud MP3 me lykkasin netti ylesse
13 June 2016 19:00
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's photo.
tuus
13 June 2016 18:56
Margus Meigo commented on Triinu Olen's photo.
Amazoni ylevaated olid suht karmid selle plaadi osas..
https://www.amazon.com/Sliver-Best-Box-Nirvana/dp/B000BISBES
kuid paar uut laulu sain mida varem kuulnud polnud
https://www.amazon.com/Sliver-Best-Box-Nirvana/dp/B000BISBES
kuid paar uut laulu sain mida varem kuulnud polnud
https://www.amazon.com/Sliver-Best-Box-Nirvana/dp/B000BISBES
13 June 2016 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on Rowleen Mush's photo.
Yes, Lord will see all : )
12 June 2016 20:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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riigis, et muidu poleks seda alles ju..11 June 2016 22:10
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Masing's post.
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See nii ulme, et ma seda veel seedin, et kuidas seda keegi nainud pole11 June 2016 22:10
Margus Meigo commented on Oliver Lepik's post.
.et. saaks purgist bongi..
11 June 2016 21:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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5229041 (motlesin kas panna number.. a mis siin maailmas ikka peita..).. SMSige ette.. vahest ei viitsi tel votta voora nr i pealt kui ei tea mis keiss on11 June 2016 21:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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aias saab grilli ka teha jms11 June 2016 20:56
Margus Meigo commented on Risto Kaljurand's post.
kuidas oli?
11 June 2016 20:48
Margus Meigo commented on Mati Väärtnõu's post.
Siis kui NL liit lagunes, saadi aru ,et nad nii suured ja voimsad idioloogiliselt, ja ajaloolise toetusega kuni Rooma impeeriumini ja sellest edasi, viikingi, odini p2tid jms, .. et selline struktuur takistaks nende plaane ja jaab tehnoloogiale ja meediale jalgu.. piirab nende tegeliku suurust... seega lasti see mull minna... ja nagu kadus... aga kuhu kadus ja miks ? Ei kadunud midagi.... samad plaanid mis Skandinaavia liberaalid ajasid.. kehtivad endiselt... samad plaanid mida Valgustusaja lipsumehed ajasid.. kehtivad endiselt.. ainuke kes meid siin aidata saab adekvaatselt on YRO sest selle alged on tegelikult natuke muud kui maised, suures osas... kuid see juba muu teema.. moni ytleb, et lausa YRO symboolika, kaart mida nad kasutavad.. selgitavad nende muud suunda...
11 June 2016 20:40
Margus Meigo commented on Mati Väärtnõu's post.
Humoorikas on, et suuremosa inimesi, ei soovi endale tunnistada, et EU ongi sama org mis kommunismi ajas.. samad viisnurgad.. nende plaanid on alati nii suured, et kuskile nad ara ei kao, eriti kui greeka pohise hariduse ja poliitikaga siin jatkame.. siis me ei hakkagi nagema ega aru saama, kui suurel tasemel see nali meie kulul on.. samal ajal kui hingede ari on meeletu...
11 June 2016 20:37
Margus Meigo commented on Vahur Armastuse Kahur's post.
Mis need nimed olid ja millise maa, kultuuri ja versiooni juutlusega tegu tundus olema ?
11 June 2016 20:35
Margus Meigo commented on Vahur Armastuse Kahur's post.
Vaga hea ja positiivne nahtus. Kui me vaid veerandit nyyd samatargad oskasksime olla ja arusaada milleks see tegelikult loodud on ja kuidas seda kasutada saad oma vaikerahva kaitseks ja kultuuri puhastuseks.
Homondus on Juudi maailmas sulaselge joledus, lubamatu igas tasemes ja samamoodi on ka kommunismi, liberalistide jms Jumalavastasega. Vahest nad oma pede juute isegi selleks kasutavad, et rampsu valjapuhastust suures plaanis aktiviseerida paremini.
Koik muu segadus mis punaste poolt tekitatud, las see olla.. tuleb praktiliselt moelda, kes on Juudid, Nagu Eestlased, Loojaga seotud rahvas, kes ei salli arulagedust ega v2rdjaid. Sest soovivad, puhast ja tervemoistusliku maailma, kus inimesed saaksid maiselt, spirituaalselt ja jumalikult ajas reisida ja taimi kasvatada ning tervislikult elada ja elu igavesti elus hoida labi armastuse.
Homondus on Juudi maailmas sulaselge joledus, lubamatu igas tasemes ja samamoodi on ka kommunismi, liberalistide jms Jumalavastasega. Vahest nad oma pede juute isegi selleks kasutavad, et rampsu valjapuhastust suures plaanis aktiviseerida paremini.
Koik muu segadus mis punaste poolt tekitatud, las see olla.. tuleb praktiliselt moelda, kes on Juudid, Nagu Eestlased, Loojaga seotud rahvas, kes ei salli arulagedust ega v2rdjaid. Sest soovivad, puhast ja tervemoistusliku maailma, kus inimesed saaksid maiselt, spirituaalselt ja jumalikult ajas reisida ja taimi kasvatada ning tervislikult elada ja elu igavesti elus hoida labi armastuse.
11 June 2016 20:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja Vaimuhaigus on vaga oige sona, sest vaimust pohinev haigus on homondus, tuleb aru saada, et neil vaimudel oma vorgustik, kes neid kahasi kasutavad.. ja omad agendad... greeka rooma mottelaadile vastav...
11 June 2016 20:30
Margus Meigo commented on Harri Kingo's post.
Kid eelkoige, me peaksime olema piisavalt vilunud ja targad nyyd, et selliseid haid direktiive osata maksimaalselt oma rahva arendamise kasuks kasutada. Kui ei oska... siis naitamegi ennast hariduse puudulikude impentsillidena, kellel pole oigust uues maailmas edasi elada muu kui dna baasina arenenud rahvaste tarbeks, seniks kuni jatkub..
Kui aga oskame..,. siis see direktiiv saab olema eesti puhastuse tarvis ikka vaga hea dokument, eriti kuna seda surub YRO osaliselt peale, seega on reaalsed targemad, suuremalt motlevad inimesed kui EU kommunistid selle taga... lisaks veel Jumalikud juudid ka.. mis lisab ainult kuhajga positiivsust, ... kui need juudid aint punased pole... kuid ka neile on ravim.. targane oskame kasutada... oma rahvale need asjad oigesti serveerida ja kohe kui keegi inimsuse vastast mula ajab raadios voi teles, valetav poliitik voi homopropakanda, siis tuleb seda direktiivi kasutades rynnata, sest yhe eksistents ju eitab teise oma... nad tahavad nyyd isegi maailma vaimuhaiguste manualist homoseksuaalsuse jms valja votta kui haiguse ja asendada selle pehmema nimega.
Kui aga oskame..,. siis see direktiiv saab olema eesti puhastuse tarvis ikka vaga hea dokument, eriti kuna seda surub YRO osaliselt peale, seega on reaalsed targemad, suuremalt motlevad inimesed kui EU kommunistid selle taga... lisaks veel Jumalikud juudid ka.. mis lisab ainult kuhajga positiivsust, ... kui need juudid aint punased pole... kuid ka neile on ravim.. targane oskame kasutada... oma rahvale need asjad oigesti serveerida ja kohe kui keegi inimsuse vastast mula ajab raadios voi teles, valetav poliitik voi homopropakanda, siis tuleb seda direktiivi kasutades rynnata, sest yhe eksistents ju eitab teise oma... nad tahavad nyyd isegi maailma vaimuhaiguste manualist homoseksuaalsuse jms valja votta kui haiguse ja asendada selle pehmema nimega.
11 June 2016 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Timm, Mulle meeldib,
Selle abil peaks saama loplikult vakka suruda koik inimsuse vastased liberaalid, koik tervemoistuse vastased ateistid ja muud vigaste uskumuste ja ideoloogiate kandjad.
Igakord kui keegi hakkab lausa mainima, et kahtleb Jumalas voi kiriku vajalikuses, siis sellised tuleb kohe kohtusse anda ja suure hooga peale soita, samamoodi koik kes midagi Eesti rahava, kultuuri voi mille iganes kohta valetab voi halvustab.
Eriti hea, et tegu on Juutide dokumendiga, see kindlustab, et suund on positivne ja Jumalasuunalik ja kui sellest puudu jaab siis tuleb neile endale nende enda oigused peale panna.
Satestada tuleb veel karistused koigi vastu kes kahtlevad Maavalises elus, paraleel reaalsustes ja muudes vaimu tehnoloogiates mis ajaloolabi toestatud ja kiriku abil reaalseks tunnistatud.
Loomulikult saab lopuks ometi animism ja shamanism ka selle dokumendi abil nyyd vajaliku kaitse ja ilmavalguse, et sygavaimad vaimu ja Looja tarkused, ravimid meieni tuua, senikaua kui inimesed mositavad KUIDAS seda dokumenti kasutada.
Samamoodi igayks kes naist peksab, voi oigustab muid pervertsusi, sh. pederastia, need saab koheselt hukka moista kui Sind ja Sinu kogukonda solvav, sest keegi pani Like mingile homo postitusele mis tundub inimarengu vastane olema
Potensiaali vaga palju sellel, aikuke asi, kas nyyd lambakarjal ja muidu habemikel on piisavalt tarkust, austust ja arusaamist, et kuidas seda enda riigi tugevndamiseks ja kaitseks kasutada. Ainult liberaalid ja kommunistid, usuvastased kuritegijad jms kardavad Sellist asja pariselt.. sest koikide teiste pool on oigus, ja kui Sa aru saad grupis, et Sul on oigus.. siis grupis oskad ka enda kasuks seda kasutada... palju palju paremini ja tugevamini kui ajutiselt koostood tegevad palgalised 5nda kolonni voi vigaseideoloogia ohvrid voi tulnukad, kes alles siiani proovivad aru saada mida siia Jumal Loonud on, eriti Eestisse
Selle abil peaks saama loplikult vakka suruda koik inimsuse vastased liberaalid, koik tervemoistuse vastased ateistid ja muud vigaste uskumuste ja ideoloogiate kandjad.
Igakord kui keegi hakkab lausa mainima, et kahtleb Jumalas voi kiriku vajalikuses, siis sellised tuleb kohe kohtusse anda ja suure hooga peale soita, samamoodi koik kes midagi Eesti rahava, kultuuri voi mille iganes kohta valetab voi halvustab.
Eriti hea, et tegu on Juutide dokumendiga, see kindlustab, et suund on positivne ja Jumalasuunalik ja kui sellest puudu jaab siis tuleb neile endale nende enda oigused peale panna.
Satestada tuleb veel karistused koigi vastu kes kahtlevad Maavalises elus, paraleel reaalsustes ja muudes vaimu tehnoloogiates mis ajaloolabi toestatud ja kiriku abil reaalseks tunnistatud.
Loomulikult saab lopuks ometi animism ja shamanism ka selle dokumendi abil nyyd vajaliku kaitse ja ilmavalguse, et sygavaimad vaimu ja Looja tarkused, ravimid meieni tuua, senikaua kui inimesed mositavad KUIDAS seda dokumenti kasutada.
Samamoodi igayks kes naist peksab, voi oigustab muid pervertsusi, sh. pederastia, need saab koheselt hukka moista kui Sind ja Sinu kogukonda solvav, sest keegi pani Like mingile homo postitusele mis tundub inimarengu vastane olema
Potensiaali vaga palju sellel, aikuke asi, kas nyyd lambakarjal ja muidu habemikel on piisavalt tarkust, austust ja arusaamist, et kuidas seda enda riigi tugevndamiseks ja kaitseks kasutada. Ainult liberaalid ja kommunistid, usuvastased kuritegijad jms kardavad Sellist asja pariselt.. sest koikide teiste pool on oigus, ja kui Sa aru saad grupis, et Sul on oigus.. siis grupis oskad ka enda kasuks seda kasutada... palju palju paremini ja tugevamini kui ajutiselt koostood tegevad palgalised 5nda kolonni voi vigaseideoloogia ohvrid voi tulnukad, kes alles siiani proovivad aru saada mida siia Jumal Loonud on, eriti Eestisse
11 June 2016 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Käo's photo.
huvitav :D
11 June 2016 20:10
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Raix's post.
Group: EESTI PILDID TUVASTAMISEKS
Kust teie koik seda infot votate..11 June 2016 17:13
Margus Meigo commented on Mirjam Pärtel's post.
aa endiselt alkolembeline jah:p
11 June 2016 16:13
Margus Meigo replied to Kerly Palm's comment.
kedagi ei saa liigselt usaldada, kas usaldad voi ei, alati tasub usaldada lopuni ja keda ei saa, neid lihtsalt tea ja usalda teadmise piires nende loomust. nagu koera usaldad aga talle pole motet oma vorsti ette jatta kui oue lahed.. ta pole siis syydi..
11 June 2016 16:06
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Ernis's comment.
kuid mida see lause tahendab?
11 June 2016 14:27
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Erm's comment.
eestis tean 4jandat polve taimetoidulist, yks edukamaid mesinikke, suure fyysilise koormuse peal, ise aga yle 10 a noorem naeb valja ja moistus ka terav
11 June 2016 14:26
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Erm's comment.
muidugi iga korgemalt arenenud ja areneda sooviv on voi laheb taimetoidule, see lihtsalt loodusseadus ja juba piibliski kirjas, taimetoidu eelised ja soovitused neile kes erilisemad
11 June 2016 14:24
Margus Meigo commented on Mart Laisk's post.
yhe ja sama kaekirjaga sildid, ei tea kes nad kirjutas ja kas kandjad ise ka keelt moistavad mis kirjas on ja kui irooniline see tundub
11 June 2016 04:23
Margus Meigo commented on Lauri Takk's post.
ara sellliseid ohtlike teste kylll tee
11 June 2016 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
to little LSD and walking in proper woods i tell you, to little sitting with older bearded people and being shut while they talk around the fire
11 June 2016 03:22
Margus Meigo commented on Anna-Maria Galojan's post.
Kuid temal klappis ikka asjad vist hasti
Gunnar :
“Ebaõnnestunud suhe on naise tehtud vigade kogum. See jutt, et naised on õrnem sugu, on täiesti rumal ja vale jutt. Naised on tugevamad kui mehed ja targemad kui mehed. Mees on rumalam, tal pole vaistu, ta on selle läbi aastatuhandete peetud sõdade ja kaubareiside käigus ära raisanud.
Naiste tugevust näitab kasvõi see, et rasketel aegadel Venemaal surid kõigepealt mehed, siis hobused ja siis härjad. Naised pidasid kõige kauem vastu ja tegid ära ka meeste, hobuste ja härgade töö”
Gunnar Aarma mõtleb hetke ja jätkab siis: “Mees on naise esimene laps ja peab selleks jääma aegade lõpuni. Kui naine seda ei aktsepteeri, on ta lihtsalt rumal. Tihti on nii, et kui peresse sünnib laps, hakkab naine mehele vähem tähelepanu pöörama, aga see on vale. Kui mees kusagilt tuleb, sõjast või kaubareisilt näiteks, on tema esimene huvi seksida. Ning naine peab selleks valmis olema, ta peab mehe vastu huvi tundma. Mees peab olema pideva hoole all, pideva tähelepanu objektiks.
Minu soovitus noortele naistele, kel pereelu kiiva hakkab kiskuma, on see, et naine kui suhte targem pool võiks sooritada uue rünnaku."
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/melu/gunnar-aarma-60-aastat-abielu?id=50824377
Gunnar :
“Ebaõnnestunud suhe on naise tehtud vigade kogum. See jutt, et naised on õrnem sugu, on täiesti rumal ja vale jutt. Naised on tugevamad kui mehed ja targemad kui mehed. Mees on rumalam, tal pole vaistu, ta on selle läbi aastatuhandete peetud sõdade ja kaubareiside käigus ära raisanud.
Naiste tugevust näitab kasvõi see, et rasketel aegadel Venemaal surid kõigepealt mehed, siis hobused ja siis härjad. Naised pidasid kõige kauem vastu ja tegid ära ka meeste, hobuste ja härgade töö”
Gunnar Aarma mõtleb hetke ja jätkab siis: “Mees on naise esimene laps ja peab selleks jääma aegade lõpuni. Kui naine seda ei aktsepteeri, on ta lihtsalt rumal. Tihti on nii, et kui peresse sünnib laps, hakkab naine mehele vähem tähelepanu pöörama, aga see on vale. Kui mees kusagilt tuleb, sõjast või kaubareisilt näiteks, on tema esimene huvi seksida. Ning naine peab selleks valmis olema, ta peab mehe vastu huvi tundma. Mees peab olema pideva hoole all, pideva tähelepanu objektiks.
Minu soovitus noortele naistele, kel pereelu kiiva hakkab kiskuma, on see, et naine kui suhte targem pool võiks sooritada uue rünnaku."
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/melu/gunnar-aarma-60-aastat-abielu?id=50824377
11 June 2016 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on Anna-Maria Galojan's post.
Kuid abielu jaoks pole armastus siiski kaugeltki mitte piisav, sest selleks peab ka mees soovima loobuda meheks olemisest ja hakkama olema abikaasa, mis on hoopis muu arvestav pere olend.
11 June 2016 03:06
Margus Meigo commented on Anna-Maria Galojan's photo.
voi nii voi nii Maria, keha on Sul noor kuid vaim suts muserdatud
11 June 2016 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on Del Hodd's photo.
What was on your great minds ?
11 June 2016 02:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
..them all look to me like Fabians society bastard children
11 June 2016 02:44
Margus Meigo commented on Del Hodd's post.
but what news is .. the honest source in UK?
Someone who is honest and knowledgeable from history to psychedelics to healthcare to politics and other regulation systems and sciences understandings and secret societies true natures.
Who would we recommend?
Someone who is honest and knowledgeable from history to psychedelics to healthcare to politics and other regulation systems and sciences understandings and secret societies true natures.
Who would we recommend?
11 June 2016 02:43
Margus Meigo commented on Del Hodd's post.
proper would be > When working class will start to read proper.. ( feel, think, self respect and learn shamanistic arts and Abrahamic truths... then they know how to become self sustainable
11 June 2016 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on Del Hodd's post.
Wonder, is Sky News, The Sun and BBC..metroo newspaper etc, right wing or more like fascist in aims but more like left, liberal, communist wing?
11 June 2016 02:33
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
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oh... kuidas nii..10 June 2016 23:30
Margus Meigo replied to Sass Vask's comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Lihtsalt, me olime nii vanad, et meil polnud instruktsioone vaja... aga nyyd tundub, et elementaarnegi me maal ununema hakkab kui me ennast kokku ei suvatse votta.
Rahvameditsiin ja palkmaja ehitus tuleb viia lakke, muidu meid alles ei j22... puumajadel yks muu oma omadus, sellest ei saa labi teatud sorti ajupeetuse tekitajad ja asjad millest r22kima ei hakka.. kuid surnud paneelikad jms on neile lihtsad...
Lisaks kogu see vaimsus mis puumajas tekib ja tervislikus, meie oleme nii Eliit maal, me saaksime endale seda lubada... aga ronime nagu perverdid yksteise otsa, kivikarpidesse.... senikaua kui tyhjades maaalades, mahajaatud majadesse mustlased ja pagulased metsadessepraegu sisse kolivad... markamatult..10 June 2016 23:28
Margus Meigo replied to Sass Vask's comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Juutlus, sama Kui Eestlus, peaks olema.
Kuigi... meil omad trumbid ka.. et miks me siin Jumalaga sedasi siftis.. et saame yhekohapeal oldud... ja ei sodi jumalaga.. ega asu jumala kaske eirama... nu vanasti mitte... nyyd bemmid, fantad ja laigid koos kontsakingadega kuid jah... yldiselt, meie kultuur yks vaga Jumalakartlik heas mottes ja Austav jumala koige lahema loomingu, Looduse enda suunas.
Enne me kellegist aru ei saa kui nende k2ske, uske ja teadmisi selgeks uhkusest ja kartusest pole oppinud koike veel... teeme selle ara.. siis saame anda soovitusi, igale keelele ja meelele vastavalt..
Ning eks Hingede Tehastes, ole paris paljul m22ral ikka Eestlasi ka toimetamas...
Kui naguke oma shamaani reise meelde tuletan... ja mida vaim jagada soovis...
//10 June 2016 23:23
Margus Meigo replied to Sass Vask's comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Juutlus muidugi pole Usund.. vaid kultuur ja Liik..... need kelle jaoks see on usund ja relgioon ning ise ennast selle osaks pidavat.. need on Juutide silmis suht naeruv22rsed, sest nad ise ytlevad alati.. Teada tuleb mitte Uskuda... ja kui Sa juba juut oled, ja sinna otsa arvad, et vajad Relgiooni ka...siis sa tegeled mingi muu ohtliku asjaga... mitte enam Jumala asjadega, ega inimese aitmaisega.. vaid Relgiooni systeemi teenimise ja elus hoimisega ... sellel aga omakorda pole suurt midagi pistmist Jumalikuga, ja on tihtipeale lausa vastupidise tulemusega...
Rabbi Mani..10 June 2016 23:18
Margus Meigo replied to Sass Vask's comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Mulle tundub nende elukoodeks olema siiani koige t2iuslikumaid ja oigemaid, et inimesi harida nii vaimse, jumaliku kui maise osas ning samal ajal neid ettevalmistada ka igasuguste kosmiliste vallutuste eest, mille peegeldus on maised labilskmised, sest need kollid just koige maisemate tehnoloogiate nagu seks ja liiderlikus, joomine, liha pugimine jms abil meie liike inflateerivad
ainuke asi mida Juutidel juurde vaja on, mille osas Eestlased aidata saavad, kui me oma lipsu kaelast rebime ja oma shamaaniliku juurte juurde naaseme... on otsene jumalaopetuse ja arusaamade pakkumine labi Taime maailma. Kui votta kasvoi kerge kristlik eetika ja shamanism,... mis siis naturaalselt muutub animismiks.. siis juba inimene oskab vaimumaailmas liikuda ja ei asu igale kenale n2kineiule peeruvahele panema keda n2eb ja oma pere hingesi ohtu seadma ..
Moltesin siinkohal,siis paris, N2kineide kui yldist fenomeny, .. ehk siis seksuaalseid olendeid kes on muust maailmast. Kes labi seksuaalsuse mehe voi naise teadvuse ja liigi yle kontrolli saavad voi Su eluskudesi enda liigi paljundamiseks kasutavad10 June 2016 23:15
Margus Meigo replied to Sass Vask's comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
kelle impeeriumis me siiani elame.. kui poleks Juutlust ja kristlust.. siis oleks arvatvasti persepanemine kohustuslik osa koolisysteemi 3ndast klassist saati., ilma igasuguse liialduseta. vaata kellelt ja Miks selline koolisysteem tekkis.. ja poliitika systeem... see ilusioone vasak vs parem mida see impeerium meile siia pani.. koos lipsudega...10 June 2016 23:09
Margus Meigo replied to Sass Vask's comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
kuid see juba peenen Greeka/Rooma impeeriumi teema10 June 2016 23:08
Margus Meigo replied to Sass Vask's comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
juudi vastased on tegelikult need , kes kultuurihavingut toovad10 June 2016 23:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Ise nende juuretasandi arusaam veel peaks olema, et armastav jumal kes annab andeks, ka viimasel momendil kui oled normaalseks hakanud,
Kuid havitab ara ka koik su sigitised loppudelopuks mis iganes positsioonile ta sind tostnud kui sitta voi sitakasse keerad,
et ma nendena votaks kohe mitu sammu ettevaatlikumalt..10 June 2016 23:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Rotchide soprus tuleb kasuks, kui nad tarkuse levelit tugevndada endal soovivad, ja astraalist tagasi Maale langevad, ning metsas Eesti habemikea moned karbseseene tuurid ja muud tosised lokkejutud teeksid. Et kuidas elu on olnud ja kuidas olema peaks hakkama, kuttidel resurssi ja tadmisi kyll, solvav oleks Jumalale see koik raisku lasta ja lillasi kirikuid ehitama hakata, mille toodang yhtegi marjapuud juurde ei kasvata10 June 2016 22:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Nu jah, neil on vaja habet kasvatama hakata, muidu inimestena saavad hakkama paris hasti.
Et paris haiget inimvastast v2rdjaliku ylbet ila nad ei aja nagu moned ja fanaatilised ka pole v2ljapaistvalt... Maaga yhendus ainult suts logiseb, ... kui habe ette kasvatada ja paar doosi psyhedeelikume anda, siis saab veel p2ris asja. Nu kui homoks pole hakanud, siis juba raskem..10 June 2016 22:55
Margus Meigo commented on Sass Vask's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Ykski juut kyll seda ei toeta, kes on P@RIS Juut,
seega teda voiks kurjutada sellise juudi h2vitusliku ideoloogia promomise eest.
Kuigi, juudi kultuuris on yeldud, et nad peavad kohaliku kultuuri reeglitega kohanema, ja enda asja mitte peale suruma.. ehk siis sellele juudile tundus, et meil puht gay riik vist ja selleparast tottas kiirelt toetama meie riiki.... aga nagu lihtsalt ta peab asja syvitsi rohkem votma ja uurima, siis saab ise ka ta aru, et rabid sellise kohe surma moistaks, heasoovlikult10 June 2016 22:48
Margus Meigo commented on Silmer Sõna's post.
300 st.
30 kymnbe euroga ma saan ise vabalt hakkama kuus , soovitavalt oleks 50 eurot, siis saaks grammi kanepit ka osta mis aitaks aega adekvaatsemalt ja targemalt moodasaata
aastaid vahemagagi hakkama saanud ja jouanisegi Kuku kohvikus teed juua vahest.
30 kymnbe euroga ma saan ise vabalt hakkama kuus , soovitavalt oleks 50 eurot, siis saaks grammi kanepit ka osta mis aitaks aega adekvaatsemalt ja targemalt moodasaata
aastaid vahemagagi hakkama saanud ja jouanisegi Kuku kohvikus teed juua vahest.
10 June 2016 22:44
Margus Meigo commented on Silmer Sõna's post.
Sa Hr Helme siis saad hakkama 30 kuus v?
Ansip nii tark, ta vabalt saaks.
Kuid miks nad SELLISE tausta juures peaks 300 ga hakkama saama, mis arulage motlemine see on soovitada selliseid asju inimestele.
Ansip nii tark, ta vabalt saaks.
Kuid miks nad SELLISE tausta juures peaks 300 ga hakkama saama, mis arulage motlemine see on soovitada selliseid asju inimestele.
10 June 2016 22:42
Margus Meigo replied to Rob Robinson's comment.
this is sick be on comparison
LSD sellers, proper ones, should get State Award for loving humanity
LSD sellers, proper ones, should get State Award for loving humanity
10 June 2016 22:34
Margus Meigo commented on Mart Laisk's post.
hahaha.. monusad idanaabri mafioss autojuhid piltidelt tunduvad, karmid mehed
10 June 2016 22:22
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Eesti riik kui kogemustega Aljosha ymberpaigutaja, voiks riikliku abi ja toetust pakkuda.
10 June 2016 22:21
Margus Meigo commented on Carlton Lee's post.
only reason to read it is to investigate what they are up to now with mind programmings and future projects...
but even then.. it can contaminate our brain
but even then.. it can contaminate our brain
10 June 2016 22:20
Margus Meigo commented on Carlton Lee's post.
what is direct link to video?
It sucks to go to spy network intruded website so they can profile you who reads what.. besides all these ad tricks and fooling of humans on this website, like
|someone did this..klick here to see what happened next..|
what kind of silly fooling is that, this kind of people think we are proper sucker sheep.
It sucks to go to spy network intruded website so they can profile you who reads what.. besides all these ad tricks and fooling of humans on this website, like
|someone did this..klick here to see what happened next..|
what kind of silly fooling is that, this kind of people think we are proper sucker sheep.
10 June 2016 21:42
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
from all the hair killing, fake face paintings and plastic weakening nails or heels .. are usually great sing, that this women does not feel proper and has lost knowledge who and how perfect She is
9 June 2016 22:53
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
But one should still start and end with a beauty,
as what is the use of all the knowledge when we feel lacking a perfection..
always be perfect, everything else is just top of this!
as what is the use of all the knowledge when we feel lacking a perfection..
always be perfect, everything else is just top of this!
9 June 2016 22:51
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
You have some of the most weird stuff under profile pictures,
this is not one of the weird one.
this is not one of the weird one.
9 June 2016 22:40
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Käo's comment.
tanks, parandatud
9 June 2016 22:32
Margus Meigo replied to Reino Pihel's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
miks sa neid kahtlasi parooli varastus linke postitad pidevalt_9 June 2016 22:28
Margus Meigo commented on Kairi Mäe's post.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
peaasi, et haiget ei saa ja tead milliste vaimude ja vahest ka deemonite kanaldusi teed olenevatelt tatuudest, eriti kui meest ei soovi muuks kui kanniks siis vaimumaailmas erinevatel olenditel kellel labi tatuude ligipaas.. need kohe monuga siis kasutavad ja teevad mida annavad.. tihti lykates ka tatuu enda meeled ja tujud karmiks..
tanapaeval muidugi inimesed sellised lapuhhid, et ei soovitagi aru saada ega teada, miks tatoo on relgioosne ja vaime asi ning milleks seda suurema maailma poolt kasutatakse, ...
naha rikkumine ja myrgitamine mis aju mojutab, see juba oma asi ja laste ..9 June 2016 22:26
Margus Meigo commented on Em Louise's post.
Group: Vegan Food UK
ikkagi surnud liha tuletab meelde valimuselt9 June 2016 22:22
Margus Meigo commented on Ellen Evert Hopman's post.
Group: OBOD Friends
after they murdered all the wolfs on to the level, that they are not able to have natural life any-more.. making large hunting competitions on last few-hundred wolfs who was left... just in a year.. even Lithuania has more wild animals it seems .9 June 2016 22:21
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Paeoja's post.
Group: EI PAGULASMASSIDELE
yldiselt ei saa sellisest huumorist aju, kas neil on isiksused seotud kuidagi?
Peab selleks olema seda homo sarja vaadanud, et naljast arusaada?9 June 2016 22:17
Margus Meigo commented on Hendrik Hunt's post.
Group: tutvus 30+
ja mismoodi neid mehi nimetada, kes veel omakorda nende nutuste norkade naistega hakkama ei saa?9 June 2016 22:16
Margus Meigo replied to Silja Kivinuk's comment.
Group: tutvus 30+
Tore, et selliseid naisi veel olemas on9 June 2016 22:15
Margus Meigo commented on Elmar Lepp's post.
Group: Nostalgiline toit
tahan ka jagada seda.. veider, miks mul jagamis nuppu pole.. teil on?9 June 2016 22:12
Margus Meigo commented on Hendrik Hunt's post.
Group: tutvus 30+
ego egoks, peaasi, et Jumalakartlik on, muidu pole mehega midagi peale hakata peale productina kasutada, sest siis tegu tyhja kestaga, kui elementaarne puudub.,
Ja kui juba inimene Maailma Loominu asjadega tegeleb, siis voib suts uhkust tunda kyll.. kuigi see elementaarne teguviis koikidele tervetele peaks olema kui tavaline... kuid need kes enne seda.. see alati pool mystiline.. et mille p2rast tema.. miski 100 aasta lobu parast aint ? ja siis..
koige egom nali on, Jumal ytleb imestuse peale: Oo my me!9 June 2016 22:10
Margus Meigo replied to Silja Kivinuk's comment.
Group: tutvus 30+
Need raamatud muidu karmid jah,...mustasexmaagia naiste hinge orjastamiseks loodud treening ja psyholoogiline programm
selle raamatusarjaga vast isegi millioneid noorhingi sai rikutud sest oma alateadvusesse programeerisid, et ebasynnis kaitumine v2rdmehepoolt on lubatud, senikaua kui naine oma vaartuse lati allapoole alseb ja enda seksuaalsust valest kylest avastama hakkab l2bi andumise muu maa olenditele kes labi meeste kehade asju ajavad... ega paljudel tydrukutel nii hasti kinniseotult ja voorastega ei lahe, kui nendes sarvikutepromo videodes...9 June 2016 21:42
Margus Meigo commented on Carolyn Trei's post.
Group: Kristlased
Lilithit peetakse ka osades mytoloogiates kolliks sest ta voitleb teise orjastatud naispoole vastu labi oma syytu tugevuse.. Juudinaisel Feminismi ajakiri kuulsaimselle nimega ka. Lillith Magazine.
Kuid jah.. eks need teemad on suured ja olulised ja paratamatult peame meie sunnitushaiglate systeemist valjaspoole vaatama ja greeka hariduse piiridest, kui soovime tajuma hakata, mis draamasi ja elusi siin olnud on ja oli, et yldse niikaugele oma vabaduse potensiaaliga nii Naine, naise tehtud mes, kui ka Jumala enda plaan joudnud on.8 June 2016 16:43
Margus Meigo commented on Carolyn Trei's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kuid monika seisukohalt jah, Jeesus oli ainuke ingel, kes labi inimese ise nous syndima oli.. kuid temast ees olid vist need veel kes enne sunniviisiliselt, ilma otsese heakskiiduta, naiste labi ennast paljundada proovisid, osad niisama nautida... ja osad oma impeeriumi teha...
Kuidas muidu Lilith siia skeemi mahub Monika, see Lilith keda Adami Esimeseks naiseks peetakse, kes ei olnud nous alluma Adama (kes omakorda oli tervikuna molemad sood) robotliku kaitumise jargi ainult yhes positsioonis seksima... ja siis arhailise kaitumise parast, Lilith kes ei tundud head ega kurja, kasutati teiste olendite poolt ara ja asusid nadennast tema kaudu paljundama... siis naispyhavaim ja Jumal loosid uue loomingu, selliselt, et algmaterial Adama kehast otse... ja see pani siis kuidagi meest tundma tugevamana ja naist norgemana, et naine oma suuruses liiga kuulmatu poleks, vaid ornalt oma haarde arusaama kasvaks, kui nad koos oma keha teise poolega korralikult liituvad (ilma vooraid seksorganied vahele toppimatta).. siis sedasi aeglaselt ja aegsasti mehe teadvus uuesti Jumalast arusaamani tuues, on naine Jumala jaoks kavatanud yles vaarilise mehe ja oige tooriista, keda alles saab hakata vaariliselt armastama ja kellega koos avalikult koostood tegema..8 June 2016 16:40
Margus Meigo commented on Carolyn Trei's post.
Group: Kristlased
Eks seda ammu moeldud, et Lutsifer tegelikult oligi Jeesus ja selle teema sisse sobib ka kogu see kaitumine...
Kuid siinkohal jah, turvalisuse mottes toetu Monika seletusele,
Onneks on piibel VAGA selge, et Jumal ja Pyhavaim on Jeesusest TUNDUVALT yle, seega me eriti muretsema ei pea... kui siis ainult niipalju, et kuidas Jeesust aidata, et tal seekord palju lihtsamini ja oigemini hea valjatuleks mida saavutada proovis.8 June 2016 16:33
Margus Meigo commented on Carolyn Trei's post.
Group: Kristlased
seega jah, eks see Jeesuse kummardamine ilma Jumala ja Naise syvaaustuseta yks tulnukate energia kanaldus vangla petuskeem on jalle, Vatikan on julge, et neist asjadest raakida suudab, kuigi.. nad voiks veel rohkem... ja rohkem...
ka enda taust selgitada rahvale ja miks tal habet pole, kui ta Jumalaga partnerluses...8 June 2016 16:31
Margus Meigo commented on Carolyn Trei's post.
Group: Kristlased
Nu tal on tosi, nainu nii palju naisi, kes muude olendite ja Lutsiferiga, yhe teise valgustahega on tegelikult suhtes, jumalast ei raagi peaaegu yldse.. saravad ja energiat tais ja suts hullunud nagu naevad valja... ja nendest osa hiljem kibestunud... ja siis aru saanud.. et jah.. see ei saanud olla Jeesus kellega nad armusuhtes olid... nagu nad vaitsid... enamasti hoitakse salajas... ainukesed teised naised kellel sarnane, kuid natukene elavam energia oli, olid need kes teadlikult Lutsiferiga, meesilu ja tarkuse esindajaga vere suhtes on olnud.8 June 2016 16:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
ja selle paragrafi lopus { .... They celebrated for seven days, and on the eighth day there was a closing ceremony, as required in the Law.}
Nagu kus on see seadus meil siin, mis minimaalseks koguseks peo kestmiseks on seitse paeva pannud?
Ollesummer ka ei kesta nii kaua ja seda vavevalt suuremosainimesi otsast lopuni nautida jouaks kui kogenud pole ja liiga hooga pikaaega vagusas hoitud peomeeleolu endast valja elama hakkab7 June 2016 18:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
JOY that act of LOVING GOD (by you) gives to you (and pleases God)7 June 2016 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Ia inglisekeeles see hoopis muudpidi nagu issand annaks Sulle roomu mis sinus: { The joy that the Lord gives you will make you strong. } .. siin peaks olema JOY that act of LOVING GOD gives you7 June 2016 18:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga kas on vaja saada teispoole seina, voi mitte, kas tahetakse voi mitte ja kas on teada voi pole teada mitte mis teispool seina on ja miks ta sellelpool seina on ?
7 June 2016 17:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vau mangis isegi yhendus ara mul selle, hm.
et siis naed, lahendused pole minu raskeim poool
et siis naed, lahendused pole minu raskeim poool
7 June 2016 17:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
seinatagusemateeria taoliseks sein muuta?
7 June 2016 17:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Alan Durier n'aen nyyd juba video pilti ja pealkirja. Laadima pole veel hakanud.. neti kiirus 6 koni 9 kb
7 June 2016 17:11
Margus Meigo commented on John Turmel's post.
i have not read the story iu posted, but from headline, it reminded me a Samanic pee drinking i have done my self, also for humanati saving, in a way, so yes, i can relate
7 June 2016 16:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oeh, enam pole ka
7 June 2016 16:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
varsti siin uuesti
7 June 2016 15:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
*(et kahe eri Linuxi liidu ja Valitsuse tehnoloogia kasvu inimesed, kes ..
7 June 2016 15:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eri astmetel eri taseme mehed kuni tipuni kysiva ikka lopuks neilt ... Nad arvasid, punaselikult, kuid ... see trots sai kiiresti muuks ohuks kui nahti, et valitsused ise ENDA inimesi ka korgelt treenib ja pariselt Nende poole oma inimesed ka yle lahevad kuni kuskile maani naib... ei tea mis kiibistavad voi teevad need vanad linuxi inimesed salaja oma putkas motlevad... kuid tegelikult neil extreem paranoia... et..
valitsus nendega sobrunemise asemel neid taga ajab muul mustal pohjusel... pealegi... nende sobrad ju seal toimetamas.. see peaks millegina ju lugema...
valitsus nendega sobrunemise asemel neid taga ajab muul mustal pohjusel... pealegi... nende sobrad ju seal toimetamas.. see peaks millegina ju lugema...
7 June 2016 15:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
need basic osad, kuid osad osad peaks erioigustega olema ka piiratuse osas, sest nende kasutus nii tehniline suuresplaanis kui midagi pariselt sassis on...
linuxi mehed kes tegid selle arvuti systeemi, linuxi, kus IT tugi PEAB olema korval, kui Sa ise just IT toe pakkuja pole, sest siis oli plaanis kolme sorti inimesi,
Arvuti kasutajad kes on teie *(it toe) kliendid ja teie
linuxi mehed kes tegid selle arvuti systeemi, linuxi, kus IT tugi PEAB olema korval, kui Sa ise just IT toe pakkuja pole, sest siis oli plaanis kolme sorti inimesi,
Arvuti kasutajad kes on teie *(it toe) kliendid ja teie
7 June 2016 15:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sest nad pole arusaanud veel, et see inimoigus oli, on ja jaab... olla yhendatud kui on voimalus...
ja nii kiire kui oleks harju keskmiselt inimestele kasulik
sh. Rapid Kasvu talumine ja Liidri Positsiooni votmine
ja nii kiire kui oleks harju keskmiselt inimestele kasulik
sh. Rapid Kasvu talumine ja Liidri Positsiooni votmine
7 June 2016 15:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga t'apselt.. mure on.. et peab Diile tegema.. mitte polda vordses stardipositsioonis millegi muu laheda tegemise osas.
Mida nad ise ka tahaks, aga enne Sul nad lubada n'ivad mittetahtvat teisel..
Mida nad ise ka tahaks, aga enne Sul nad lubada n'ivad mittetahtvat teisel..
7 June 2016 15:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu yks lahendus oleks Elioniga Diil teha
7 June 2016 15:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Laen veel osasi, oli mottes aga...
7 June 2016 15:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
ei saa ma naha praegu naguinii,
& pane urile nimi ka editist juurde.
. onneks saame muuta,
Oot, sa siis lahenduse osas p'ariselt kysisid, milleks_
ei saa ma naha praegu naguinii,
& pane urile nimi ka editist juurde.
. onneks saame muuta,
Oot, sa siis lahenduse osas p'ariselt kysisid, milleks_
7 June 2016 15:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aa nu ma vaatan ise siis, moment
7 June 2016 15:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga anna siis see varasem, ma oleks aarepalt ropendama hakanud
7 June 2016 15:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Milline Su lemmik Lootuse teemaline 80 nda kandi eesti poplaulude lemmik on_
7 June 2016 15:25
Margus Meigo replied to Alan Durier's comment.
lootus
7 June 2016 15:24
Margus Meigo replied to Alan Durier's comment.
kohe ytlen, varem voi hiljem
7 June 2016 15:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kujutage, ette ... ma suutsin nyyd leida op systeemi, a 2016 uue valjalaskena, kes ei suuda enne esimest update isegi ekraani pilti salvestada mitekuidagi pidi, mis tavainimese voimetes.
7 June 2016 15:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
hea
et, eesti nii vaikene on,
et teda usaldada saab.
et, eesti nii vaikene on,
et teda usaldada saab.
7 June 2016 15:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid see koigest Deprekam pool,
hea on, et
hea on, et
7 June 2016 15:14
Margus Meigo commented on Assar Järvekülg's post.
Group: Vasakpoolne liikumine
EEstis on viga, et poliitikute palgad on niiii väikesed, olematud, tavainimese palga tasemel arenenud turuga riikidega võrreldes (need kellega meil ennast võrrelda meeldib) ...et kohe täiesti nukker.. 4 korda kõrgem palk peaks olema ikka vähemalt, siis saab juba midagi nõuda ka inimestelt ja nel tekib austus töö vastu, hoiavad töökohta ja ei pea allkäemaksu võtma. Niipalju.
4 June 2016 14:41
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
oh, these countries does not even have any medicine.. thatswhy.. well, finland even pays for all sex operations and boobjobs it seems, for free, by state
4 June 2016 14:28
Margus Meigo commented on Anna-Maria Galojan's post.
oh, it was a Real cow this time, he has improved manners greatly
3 June 2016 18:03
Margus Meigo commented on Janek Hiiet's post.
Mul väga hea raamatu digi koopia endal pildistatud, nimega: Meelte ja Tunnete taimed (Sinika ja Ulla salo)
Soovitan lugemaks elementaarse tausta saamiseks, ilma, et keegi Sind nurka saaks suruda kui lihtsalt paarile ainele keskenduvat segaduses "sõltlast" ,kes "teadusest" ega seadusest mida ei tea
Soovitan lugemaks elementaarse tausta saamiseks, ilma, et keegi Sind nurka saaks suruda kui lihtsalt paarile ainele keskenduvat segaduses "sõltlast" ,kes "teadusest" ega seadusest mida ei tea
1 June 2016 10:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja kui hakkavad veel kahjulikusest ja sõltuvustest jahuma siis:
A hallucinogen is a psychoactive agent which can cause hallucinations, perceptual anomalies, and other substantial subjective changes in thoughts, emotion, and consciousness. The common types of hallucinogens are psychedelics, dissociatives and deliriants.
"L. E. Hollister's criteria for establishing that a drug is hallucinogenic are as follows:[1]
1. in proportion to other effects, changes in thought, perception, and mood should predominate;
2. intellectual or memory impairment should be minimal;
stupor, narcosis, or excessive stimulation should not be an integral effect;
3. autonomic nervous system side effects should be minimal; and
4. addictive craving should be absent"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen
From: http://archives.drugabuse.gov/pdf/monographs/146.pdf (National Institude on Drug Abuse, Page 4)
Lisamärge minult: Looja poolt on see lisaväärtus, et me sõltuvuse sarnaseid käitumisi tekitame asjadega mis meile meeldivad, peame lihtsalt meile meeldivaid ja kasulike asju õppima õigesti kooskõlas muu toidu ja suhetega..
A hallucinogen is a psychoactive agent which can cause hallucinations, perceptual anomalies, and other substantial subjective changes in thoughts, emotion, and consciousness. The common types of hallucinogens are psychedelics, dissociatives and deliriants.
"L. E. Hollister's criteria for establishing that a drug is hallucinogenic are as follows:[1]
1. in proportion to other effects, changes in thought, perception, and mood should predominate;
2. intellectual or memory impairment should be minimal;
stupor, narcosis, or excessive stimulation should not be an integral effect;
3. autonomic nervous system side effects should be minimal; and
4. addictive craving should be absent"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen
From: http://archives.drugabuse.gov/pdf/monographs/146.pdf (National Institude on Drug Abuse, Page 4)
Lisamärge minult: Looja poolt on see lisaväärtus, et me sõltuvuse sarnaseid käitumisi tekitame asjadega mis meile meeldivad, peame lihtsalt meile meeldivaid ja kasulike asju õppima õigesti kooskõlas muu toidu ja suhetega..
1 June 2016 10:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Siin veel sutsu tarkust, kui keegi peaks asuma tänaval tarka panema ja kahtluse alla seadma "lisamõjusi" mis võib ravikanepi õliga kaasneda, siis vastake julgelt:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelics_in_problem-solving_experiment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_experience
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_drug
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheogen
Ja kui nad need testid veel täis õigesti teinud oleks, oleks tulemused veelgi paremad olnud:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concord_Prison_Experiment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_therapy
Kuna ta reguleerib sind rohkem rahulikumaks, normaalsemaks, tähelepanelikumaks, Sinu loomusele lähedasemaks, siis:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_and_time_perception .. mis hea, aja kasulikuma kasutuse osas. Senikaua kui hoiad disipliini, et ei muuda kasutust rutiinseks ilma sügavama mõtteta, ikka tervise ja headuse suunas. Ja enese ravi osas (olgu see Elu või ajataju.. ja Õlide puhul on veel mitu sammu tervislikus suurem, eriti kui pole õli tehtud alkoholi filtreerimisega)...
Ja eriti huvilistele, tekstiall suur list kirjandust
http://www.henryflynt.org/depth_psy/psychostate.html
http://deoxy.org/w_psyrel.htm (Allan Watts! Menüü üleval paremal nurgas..)
http://psychedelics.com/psychedelics-definition/common-characteristics-of-psychedelic-drugs/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelics_in_problem-solving_experiment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_experience
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_drug
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheogen
Ja kui nad need testid veel täis õigesti teinud oleks, oleks tulemused veelgi paremad olnud:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concord_Prison_Experiment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_therapy
Kuna ta reguleerib sind rohkem rahulikumaks, normaalsemaks, tähelepanelikumaks, Sinu loomusele lähedasemaks, siis:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_and_time_perception .. mis hea, aja kasulikuma kasutuse osas. Senikaua kui hoiad disipliini, et ei muuda kasutust rutiinseks ilma sügavama mõtteta, ikka tervise ja headuse suunas. Ja enese ravi osas (olgu see Elu või ajataju.. ja Õlide puhul on veel mitu sammu tervislikus suurem, eriti kui pole õli tehtud alkoholi filtreerimisega)...
Ja eriti huvilistele, tekstiall suur list kirjandust
http://www.henryflynt.org/depth_psy/psychostate.html
http://deoxy.org/w_psyrel.htm (Allan Watts! Menüü üleval paremal nurgas..)
http://psychedelics.com/psychedelics-definition/common-characteristics-of-psychedelic-drugs/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelics_in_problem-solving_experiment
1 June 2016 10:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Et siis meie siin.. võtame vaikselt, ja julgelt et nii ei lähe: https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&q=life+in+prison+cannabis+OR+marijuana+OR+thc
Siis juba võit.. ja samas ku iteeme mida teeme, siis peame arvestama, ka sirge seljaga , et nii julgete asjadega tegeleme või keegi tegeleb kes meile kanepit või muud toob, antke neile austust ja toetust, hoitke nende privaatsust ja võtke pool "süüd" enda peale kui see teist kes rohkem tööd teinud on aidata, kaitsta saab kuidagi ,vennalikult
Siis juba võit.. ja samas ku iteeme mida teeme, siis peame arvestama, ka sirge seljaga , et nii julgete asjadega tegeleme või keegi tegeleb kes meile kanepit või muud toob, antke neile austust ja toetust, hoitke nende privaatsust ja võtke pool "süüd" enda peale kui see teist kes rohkem tööd teinud on aidata, kaitsta saab kuidagi ,vennalikult
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&q=life+in+prison+cannabis+OR+marijuana+OR+thc
1 June 2016 09:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Palvejõud on ka võimas,
vanasti inimestele anti kanepi eest eluaegne vanglakaristus ilma pikemajututa... osades riikides siiani on surmanuhtlus veel... seega täname,et meil siin üldse veel lubatakse Lootust inimesteni tuua, ja mõtleme enne kes meieriiki päästikul hoiab,enne kui materdama ja ärplema hakkame..
Mul isa ammu õpetas.. et jälgi mis totrate asjade osas kõige karmimaid karistusi pannakse.. mida enam keelatakse veidralt.. siissee on see millele tähelepanu pöörata https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&q=life+in+prison+lsd+OR+cannabis
vanasti inimestele anti kanepi eest eluaegne vanglakaristus ilma pikemajututa... osades riikides siiani on surmanuhtlus veel... seega täname,et meil siin üldse veel lubatakse Lootust inimesteni tuua, ja mõtleme enne kes meieriiki päästikul hoiab,enne kui materdama ja ärplema hakkame..
Mul isa ammu õpetas.. et jälgi mis totrate asjade osas kõige karmimaid karistusi pannakse.. mida enam keelatakse veidralt.. siissee on see millele tähelepanu pöörata https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&q=life+in+prison+lsd+OR+cannabis
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&q=life+in+prison+lsd+OR+cannabis
1 June 2016 09:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui Teid on palju kes sellega JULGELT tegeleb + alati hitke mõned tegelased ka igaksjuhuks täis varjus, igaks juhuks.. kuid mida rohkem avalike seda parem, sest kunagi teist kirjutatakse kui vabadusvõitlejatest küll, kui õigesti asja ajate.
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&q=psychedelics+therapy
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&q=psychedelics+therapy
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&q=psychedelics+therapy
1 June 2016 09:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja vaadake ka mis juhtub kui te liialt kellaaaega omaarvutis muudate, kui Tori kasutate... mul tor ei käivitu igatahes siis... (jah tava tehniline seletus aga... mis see nende asi on mis mu kell on..) kes teab mitu komakohta eri hertside kaudu nad tegelikult Su arvuti idendifitseerida suudavad.. alati hoia fantaasia ka avatud, siis pole üllatusi, ja eelkõige: hoia süda õigel teel, ja et soovid seda kõike teha KA Kirikutele, Riigile, Vanaemadele ja Akadeemikutele... ole aitamis laines... (tea, et saladusi pole olemas, lihtsalt lastakse osasi häid asju teha meil, ja vahest isegi siis tullakse kukile kui me pole väärastunud õiguse ja südamega naise ega valitsuse suhtes...)... kui oled oma meeled õigesse seisukorda seadnud, siis osakd õigemini reageerida,
ja ära tembelda ennast kriminaaliks tundes süüd, hirmu , kahetsust ja proovides valetada ja vassida... ole aus.. siiras..normaalsuse piires, oma sõpru sundida sul välja anda on nede poolt illegaalne tegu... nad võivad alati küsida, aga seda EI tohi suruda... kui nad just VÄGA mustad pole... (ja päriselt ka, ära lange raha lõksu, kus soovid seda lihtsalt papikokkuajamiseks teha.. kuigi teeksid head ka lihtsalt seda tehes, teed natuke ka karuteenet kui vahele jääd kui "diiler" seega... ikka psühedeelikumid ainult, sest need tõestatud, et inimestele kasulikud, sest sätivad meie väärtusi PÄRISUSKLIKUTE, Jumalakartlikutega samale ja sarnasele tasemele, ammu juba, vaieldamatult, aksepteeritud pole aint veel. )
Arvatakse isegi ,et need lisaks viirukile, kui "suitsutusrohi" piiblis kasutataks, et siis mõeldakse kanepit mida vanasti palju poletati ja selle suitsusees olles, sai inimene selguse ja kindlameeelsuse ning Loojaga ühendust paremini... sellepärast Rooma taolised võimud ka taoliste asjade vastu... sest kui rahvas ise targaks saab siis neil suts raske ette dikteerida mis on ja kuidas..
Alati enne kasutamist peab teil selge olema, MIKS ja mida kasutate..
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&q=LSD+OR+cannabis+OR+psilosybin+therapy (selleks, et Looja Arusaamale, kes EI ole Sina, Sina Oled Äge küll aga mitte Maailma looja, vaid kingituseks Sul elu antud siin, et võimalik Loojat ja teadust aidata ning arendada, tee siis mis soovitud
Vahest on vaja inimesel puhast tugevamat kogust psü deelikume, et kanepi tegelikust mõjust, võimust ja kasust ar usaada, vahest võtab see 3-5 kasutust, vahest on kogemus hirmutav kui ta su oma tervist rikkuva psüühika hirmud lahti lahkab, et saaksid õigemini edasi liikuda otuseid tehes... kuid oluline on usaldada usus, et liigud õiges suunas, kui muutud isekaks, ülbeks, üleolevaks ja ennast ei tea kelleks pidama, isegi siis kui see nägemus antud Sulle, et nagu oleksid... siis see on lihtsalt kingitus.. millest pead edasi arenema, muidu ei tule Sulle mitte ainult pahad kaela, et sind maha tirida..
Olge mõistlikud, ausad ja julged!
ja ära tembelda ennast kriminaaliks tundes süüd, hirmu , kahetsust ja proovides valetada ja vassida... ole aus.. siiras..normaalsuse piires, oma sõpru sundida sul välja anda on nede poolt illegaalne tegu... nad võivad alati küsida, aga seda EI tohi suruda... kui nad just VÄGA mustad pole... (ja päriselt ka, ära lange raha lõksu, kus soovid seda lihtsalt papikokkuajamiseks teha.. kuigi teeksid head ka lihtsalt seda tehes, teed natuke ka karuteenet kui vahele jääd kui "diiler" seega... ikka psühedeelikumid ainult, sest need tõestatud, et inimestele kasulikud, sest sätivad meie väärtusi PÄRISUSKLIKUTE, Jumalakartlikutega samale ja sarnasele tasemele, ammu juba, vaieldamatult, aksepteeritud pole aint veel. )
Arvatakse isegi ,et need lisaks viirukile, kui "suitsutusrohi" piiblis kasutataks, et siis mõeldakse kanepit mida vanasti palju poletati ja selle suitsusees olles, sai inimene selguse ja kindlameeelsuse ning Loojaga ühendust paremini... sellepärast Rooma taolised võimud ka taoliste asjade vastu... sest kui rahvas ise targaks saab siis neil suts raske ette dikteerida mis on ja kuidas..
Alati enne kasutamist peab teil selge olema, MIKS ja mida kasutate..
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&q=LSD+OR+cannabis+OR+psilosybin+therapy (selleks, et Looja Arusaamale, kes EI ole Sina, Sina Oled Äge küll aga mitte Maailma looja, vaid kingituseks Sul elu antud siin, et võimalik Loojat ja teadust aidata ning arendada, tee siis mis soovitud
Vahest on vaja inimesel puhast tugevamat kogust psü deelikume, et kanepi tegelikust mõjust, võimust ja kasust ar usaada, vahest võtab see 3-5 kasutust, vahest on kogemus hirmutav kui ta su oma tervist rikkuva psüühika hirmud lahti lahkab, et saaksid õigemini edasi liikuda otuseid tehes... kuid oluline on usaldada usus, et liigud õiges suunas, kui muutud isekaks, ülbeks, üleolevaks ja ennast ei tea kelleks pidama, isegi siis kui see nägemus antud Sulle, et nagu oleksid... siis see on lihtsalt kingitus.. millest pead edasi arenema, muidu ei tule Sulle mitte ainult pahad kaela, et sind maha tirida..
Olge mõistlikud, ausad ja julged!
1 June 2016 09:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid pidage meeles... et toimetage seni kuni saate...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQhteUqFuAM&list=RDCWcR3ogHRnY&index=12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQhteUqFuAM&list=RDCWcR3ogHRnY&index=12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQhteUqFuAM&list=RDCWcR3ogHRnY&index=12
1 June 2016 09:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQhteUqFuAM&list=RDCWcR3ogHRnY&index=12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQhteUqFuAM&list=RDCWcR3ogHRnY&index=12
1 June 2016 09:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tegu muidugi sõjaväe programmiga (ja tarkvaraga), kuid ärge sellest ennast häirida laske, hoitke tellimused alla tuhande lihtsalt,
alla 500 on päris turvaline, liiga väike, et interpol huvitaks kellel omad tehnoloogiad torride pidepunktide ja liikluse sisust arusaamiseks, kui algajamad kasutajad kasutavad.
Oluline on, et Sa EI häbene mida teed, ja et TEAD et see on Õige tegu,
Mitte ainult ei usu, vaid tead, läbi usu hoiad teadmise meeles, kui see meelest pühitud segaduse või ajutise ajaaugu kaudu, siis usu, et saad uuesti vasti Teada, miks on Hea, see mida soovid teha maailmale, ja tea, et soovid Head, Käitu vastvalt, ja oska olla ka suur, julge ja ka alandlik, et näidata, et Sa pole kaotanud oma aju ega viisakust ja saad aru Reaalsusest, ning hindad elu positiivselt, hoolituse ja armastusega
Linke:
http://www.cybersecurity-review.com/gchq-and-nca-join-forces-to-police-dark-web (klick full story)
https://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/09/12/cypherpunk-dark-net-marketplaces/
Kuidas Vahele jääda:
https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2015/09/04/3-ways-to-get-busted-on-the-dark-web/
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/six-ways-law-enforcement-monitors-the-dark-web
Deep Web ja Deebnet erinevus
http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2014/05/25/315821415/going-dark-the-internet-behind-the-internet
http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/web/tor-infinity-and-beyond-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-dark-web-1311729
Facebook ja DarkNet:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29879851
Poolt ja vastu:
http://www.cheatsheet.com/technology/how-tors-dark-web-is-getting-darker-thanks-to-spies.html/?a=viewall
https://www.gypthecat.com/top-5-deep-web-myths-and-why-its-not-as-exciting-as-you-think-it-is
http://www.zdnet.com/article/beyond-silk-road-2-0-over-400-dark-web-tor-sites-seized-by-fbi/
Häid vihjeid:
https://www.reddit.com/r/onions/comments/2rvd5q/can_tor_browser_leak_my_mac_address/
http://tor.stackexchange.com/questions/1641/does-tor-hide-my-mac-address-as-well-as-my-ip-address
http://tor.stackexchange.com/search?q=tor+
Ja veelkorra:
https://www.torproject.org/about/torusers.html.en (torri oma leht) (advanced: https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-hidden-service.html.en )
https://pando.com/2014/07/16/tor-spooks/
https://citizenlab.org/2004/08/onion-routing-and-the-us-military/
http://www.eweek.com/security/tor-puts-nsa-at-odds-with-browsers-us-navy-creators-other-agencies.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/18/tor-snowden_n_3610370.html
http://www.nrl.navy.mil/itd/chacs/dingledine-tor-second-generation-onion-router (US Mil site)
Aitab ka praeguseks, peaks saama ülevaate
Ühesõnaga kasutage, muutke oma MAC aadressi ja ärge külastage enda isikuga seotud lehti samast browserist, proovige WMvare virtual arvutist (torrentist saab alla laadida, ja lihtsalt windosi või linuxi, windosi sisse installida), jooksutada mälupulgapealt.. salvesta poe aadressid omale aint mujale.. kustuta pulk või hoia seda eraldi peale tellimisi.. üks anonymous võrgustik andis ka häid soovitusi privaatsuse osas, kuid ei leia URLi praegu...
Kui võimalik, tellige soomes, ja tooge mütsis üle kui närvilisust varjata osakte kui koertega uksepeal vastas ollakse (närvilisuse või ülbuse järgi vaadatakse enamasti kes on kahtlane)
alla 500 on päris turvaline, liiga väike, et interpol huvitaks kellel omad tehnoloogiad torride pidepunktide ja liikluse sisust arusaamiseks, kui algajamad kasutajad kasutavad.
Oluline on, et Sa EI häbene mida teed, ja et TEAD et see on Õige tegu,
Mitte ainult ei usu, vaid tead, läbi usu hoiad teadmise meeles, kui see meelest pühitud segaduse või ajutise ajaaugu kaudu, siis usu, et saad uuesti vasti Teada, miks on Hea, see mida soovid teha maailmale, ja tea, et soovid Head, Käitu vastvalt, ja oska olla ka suur, julge ja ka alandlik, et näidata, et Sa pole kaotanud oma aju ega viisakust ja saad aru Reaalsusest, ning hindad elu positiivselt, hoolituse ja armastusega
Linke:
http://www.cybersecurity-review.com/gchq-and-nca-join-forces-to-police-dark-web (klick full story)
https://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/09/12/cypherpunk-dark-net-marketplaces/
Kuidas Vahele jääda:
https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2015/09/04/3-ways-to-get-busted-on-the-dark-web/
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/six-ways-law-enforcement-monitors-the-dark-web
Deep Web ja Deebnet erinevus
http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2014/05/25/315821415/going-dark-the-internet-behind-the-internet
http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/web/tor-infinity-and-beyond-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-dark-web-1311729
Facebook ja DarkNet:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29879851
Poolt ja vastu:
http://www.cheatsheet.com/technology/how-tors-dark-web-is-getting-darker-thanks-to-spies.html/?a=viewall
https://www.gypthecat.com/top-5-deep-web-myths-and-why-its-not-as-exciting-as-you-think-it-is
http://www.zdnet.com/article/beyond-silk-road-2-0-over-400-dark-web-tor-sites-seized-by-fbi/
Häid vihjeid:
https://www.reddit.com/r/onions/comments/2rvd5q/can_tor_browser_leak_my_mac_address/
http://tor.stackexchange.com/questions/1641/does-tor-hide-my-mac-address-as-well-as-my-ip-address
http://tor.stackexchange.com/search?q=tor+
Ja veelkorra:
https://www.torproject.org/about/torusers.html.en (torri oma leht) (advanced: https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-hidden-service.html.en )
https://pando.com/2014/07/16/tor-spooks/
https://citizenlab.org/2004/08/onion-routing-and-the-us-military/
http://www.eweek.com/security/tor-puts-nsa-at-odds-with-browsers-us-navy-creators-other-agencies.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/18/tor-snowden_n_3610370.html
http://www.nrl.navy.mil/itd/chacs/dingledine-tor-second-generation-onion-router (US Mil site)
Aitab ka praeguseks, peaks saama ülevaate
Ühesõnaga kasutage, muutke oma MAC aadressi ja ärge külastage enda isikuga seotud lehti samast browserist, proovige WMvare virtual arvutist (torrentist saab alla laadida, ja lihtsalt windosi või linuxi, windosi sisse installida), jooksutada mälupulgapealt.. salvesta poe aadressid omale aint mujale.. kustuta pulk või hoia seda eraldi peale tellimisi.. üks anonymous võrgustik andis ka häid soovitusi privaatsuse osas, kuid ei leia URLi praegu...
Kui võimalik, tellige soomes, ja tooge mütsis üle kui närvilisust varjata osakte kui koertega uksepeal vastas ollakse (närvilisuse või ülbuse järgi vaadatakse enamasti kes on kahtlane)
1 June 2016 09:09
Margus Meigo commented on Janek Hiiet's post.
Et nagu varem sai öeldud:
Rahaga üksi ei tee midagi, sest me ei võitle mitte maiste Liberaalidest maafia vastu ainult vaid ka Taevaste kurjade jõudude vastu (Ephesians 6:12), selliste tegevustega inimeste nagu Janek likvideerimiseks pannakse rohkem jõudu ja jaksu kui me osata suudame uskuda, sest tegu on kogu maailmakorda muutva tegevusega, millega Janek julgelt liitunud.
Psühedeelikumid on väärtushinnanguid muutev Looming, iseasi, kes soovib muudatustega kaasa minna, kuhu loodud oleme.
Kui nad temal lasevad minna siis see tõstab terve suure rea uusi aktiviste ja uskujaid ülesse iidsete Rooma Impeeriumi reeglite vastu, hakates uskuma Loodust ja Loojat, headust, vanemaid, armastust, vabadust ja tervist (viisnurga asemel, su rahatähtedel ja lippudel millele allud..).
Kui nad tema maha suudavad ülekaalukalt suruda (ilma, et vastane oma suurust täielikult paljastaks, mis omakorda tooks uusi aktiviste ja ärataks vanureid ja süsteemi sees oelvaid inimesi ülesse, et asi on kahtlane..) siis selline vaikne mahapanemine, peaks selliste kollide arvates hirmutama tänava ja akadeemia tasemel edaspidi kõike kes midagi nii suurt ja julgelt soovib tervislikul eesmärgil teha, eelkõige nõrgendades inimeste usaldusvõrgustikku ja likvideerides koostöövõimet, kartuse ja teadmatuse läbi.
Vaja on, et suurem hulk inimesi, seda SAMA tegema hakkaks, mida Janek, selle raha mis kogute, tasub osta Tor Browseri kaudu, sealse Gramsi jms tööristu kasutades odavaid kanepiravi õlisi ja neid nii avalikult jagama hakkama kui võimalik,
Ja samas jääda ise viiskakas ja MITTE riiki kiruvaks, vaid süsteemi mis Eesti Riigi on vangistanud, kui üldse, kuid hoiduge lollusest nagu oma maa inimeste sõimamisest, kui kodumaal mingit kaitset soovite selliste suuurte välisjõudude vastu, kes soovib ise täielikult kontrollima hakata kogu kanepiturgu, andes rahvale ainult teatud väärastunud liike ja veel väärastumate õpetuste ja kasutustega, et likvideerida inimeste meelte avanemine muus suunas kui seda mida orjanduseks vaja on.
Kuna nad pole suutnud noorte ajusi täiesti kontrolli all hoida ja kanepiturgu täielikult steriilseks psühdeelsete kogemuste osas teha, siis pole asi veel ka legaalne ja ku isaab olema, siis NEMAD peavad olema esimesed, nende endi arvates, kes selle Päästja vabaduse taime turvaliselt rahvani toob, mitte minig väike tervemõistuslik vanade juurtega riik ja selle tavapärased kodanikud, ...see paneks suured maafiad väga ebameeldivasse olukorda, et miks nad siis ei teadnud ega ei teinud..
https://www.wired.com/2014/04/grams-search-engine-dark-web/
( Ephesians 6:12: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%206%3A12&version=CJB;OJB;NIV;KJV )
Rahaga üksi ei tee midagi, sest me ei võitle mitte maiste Liberaalidest maafia vastu ainult vaid ka Taevaste kurjade jõudude vastu (Ephesians 6:12), selliste tegevustega inimeste nagu Janek likvideerimiseks pannakse rohkem jõudu ja jaksu kui me osata suudame uskuda, sest tegu on kogu maailmakorda muutva tegevusega, millega Janek julgelt liitunud.
Psühedeelikumid on väärtushinnanguid muutev Looming, iseasi, kes soovib muudatustega kaasa minna, kuhu loodud oleme.
Kui nad temal lasevad minna siis see tõstab terve suure rea uusi aktiviste ja uskujaid ülesse iidsete Rooma Impeeriumi reeglite vastu, hakates uskuma Loodust ja Loojat, headust, vanemaid, armastust, vabadust ja tervist (viisnurga asemel, su rahatähtedel ja lippudel millele allud..).
Kui nad tema maha suudavad ülekaalukalt suruda (ilma, et vastane oma suurust täielikult paljastaks, mis omakorda tooks uusi aktiviste ja ärataks vanureid ja süsteemi sees oelvaid inimesi ülesse, et asi on kahtlane..) siis selline vaikne mahapanemine, peaks selliste kollide arvates hirmutama tänava ja akadeemia tasemel edaspidi kõike kes midagi nii suurt ja julgelt soovib tervislikul eesmärgil teha, eelkõige nõrgendades inimeste usaldusvõrgustikku ja likvideerides koostöövõimet, kartuse ja teadmatuse läbi.
Vaja on, et suurem hulk inimesi, seda SAMA tegema hakkaks, mida Janek, selle raha mis kogute, tasub osta Tor Browseri kaudu, sealse Gramsi jms tööristu kasutades odavaid kanepiravi õlisi ja neid nii avalikult jagama hakkama kui võimalik,
Ja samas jääda ise viiskakas ja MITTE riiki kiruvaks, vaid süsteemi mis Eesti Riigi on vangistanud, kui üldse, kuid hoiduge lollusest nagu oma maa inimeste sõimamisest, kui kodumaal mingit kaitset soovite selliste suuurte välisjõudude vastu, kes soovib ise täielikult kontrollima hakata kogu kanepiturgu, andes rahvale ainult teatud väärastunud liike ja veel väärastumate õpetuste ja kasutustega, et likvideerida inimeste meelte avanemine muus suunas kui seda mida orjanduseks vaja on.
Kuna nad pole suutnud noorte ajusi täiesti kontrolli all hoida ja kanepiturgu täielikult steriilseks psühdeelsete kogemuste osas teha, siis pole asi veel ka legaalne ja ku isaab olema, siis NEMAD peavad olema esimesed, nende endi arvates, kes selle Päästja vabaduse taime turvaliselt rahvani toob, mitte minig väike tervemõistuslik vanade juurtega riik ja selle tavapärased kodanikud, ...see paneks suured maafiad väga ebameeldivasse olukorda, et miks nad siis ei teadnud ega ei teinud..
https://www.wired.com/2014/04/grams-search-engine-dark-web/
( Ephesians 6:12: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%206%3A12&version=CJB;OJB;NIV;KJV )
https://www.wired.com/2014/04/grams-search-engine-dark-web/
1 June 2016 08:46
Margus Meigo commented on Janek Hiiet's post.
Pidage meeles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWcR3ogHRnY&list=RDCWcR3ogHRnY ja Kus on kodukoht!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWcR3ogHRnY&list=RDCWcR3ogHRnY
1 June 2016 08:33
Margus Meigo commented on Janek Hiiet's post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWcR3ogHRnY&list=RDCWcR3ogHRnY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWcR3ogHRnY&list=RDCWcR3ogHRnY
1 June 2016 08:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but my selfish fear and creed, that someone might use this awesome power less then perfect way, keep me from finding proper partners to turn internet in to plugin of this tool, i guess we need to become more Godly, to trust our self
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpqRDudzKCA
I will fix my self, if co-humans hand me few more hands .:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpqRDudzKCA
I will fix my self, if co-humans hand me few more hands .:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpqRDudzKCA
1 June 2016 02:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Will facebook be basic most used platform in between planets, coming times?
I had lot of plants on various inter-galactic social networks,
long times ago..
that would also integrate self correcting identification range of Earth's inhabitants interpretations of reality so to keep Godly perspective, explaining and running in all from a Jew perspective and same time allowing integration from Shamanic worlds and academia to explain it all away eventually.
I had lot of plants on various inter-galactic social networks,
long times ago..
that would also integrate self correcting identification range of Earth's inhabitants interpretations of reality so to keep Godly perspective, explaining and running in all from a Jew perspective and same time allowing integration from Shamanic worlds and academia to explain it all away eventually.
1 June 2016 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
do they like Clinton plant for making ET archives public? Will they believe, this reveals information about new ruling lifeforms outside of human elementary schools basic known historic enlightenment based society's ?
1 June 2016 02:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The point is, the Godly and Angelic (alien) question, how much of we are prepared for these thinking's, ... unless Clinton comes to power, we might newer live to see :p
1 June 2016 02:12
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
Ask, Was the Hebrews correct (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjaRuL6TSt8 "You can only succeed when You are sad" ...is there earthly and Godly soul they are trained about to keep?)
and Evangelion (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112159/reviews?ref_=tt_urv Humans have to face Angels with the protection of UN machines, eg are humans prepared for battle? Can we see hope for humans to survive based on current understanding of hypothetical technology we have to face) ?
Something related to these themes,... keep Your roots real Mark :)
and Evangelion (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112159/reviews?ref_=tt_urv Humans have to face Angels with the protection of UN machines, eg are humans prepared for battle? Can we see hope for humans to survive based on current understanding of hypothetical technology we have to face) ?
Something related to these themes,... keep Your roots real Mark :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjaRuL6TSt8
1 June 2016 02:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tegu muidugi sõjaväe programmiga, kuid ärge sellest ennast häirida laske, hoitke tellimused alla tuhande lihtsalt,
alla 500 on päris turvaline, liiga väike, et interpol huvitaks kellel omad tehnoloogiad torride pidepunktide ja liikluse sisust arusaamiseks, kui algajamad kasutajad kasutavad.
Oluline on, et Sa EI häbene mida teed, ja et TEAD et see on Õige tegu,
Mitte ainult ei usu, vaid tead, läbi usu hoiad teadmise meeles, kui see meelest pühitud segaduse või ajutise ajaaugu kaudu, siis usu, et saad uuesti vasti Teada, miks on Hea, see mida soovid teha maailmale, ja tea, et soovid Head, Käitu vastvalt, ja oska olla ka suur, julge ja ka alandlik, et näidata, et Sa pole kaotanud oma aju ega viisakust ja saad aru Reaalsusest, ning hindad elu positiivselt, hoolituse ja armastusega
alla 500 on päris turvaline, liiga väike, et interpol huvitaks kellel omad tehnoloogiad torride pidepunktide ja liikluse sisust arusaamiseks, kui algajamad kasutajad kasutavad.
Oluline on, et Sa EI häbene mida teed, ja et TEAD et see on Õige tegu,
Mitte ainult ei usu, vaid tead, läbi usu hoiad teadmise meeles, kui see meelest pühitud segaduse või ajutise ajaaugu kaudu, siis usu, et saad uuesti vasti Teada, miks on Hea, see mida soovid teha maailmale, ja tea, et soovid Head, Käitu vastvalt, ja oska olla ka suur, julge ja ka alandlik, et näidata, et Sa pole kaotanud oma aju ega viisakust ja saad aru Reaalsusest, ning hindad elu positiivselt, hoolituse ja armastusega
1 June 2016 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on Janek Hiiet's post.
Rahaga üksi ei tee midagi, sest me ei võitle mitte maiste Liberaalidest maafia vastu ainult vaid ka Taevaste kurjade jõudude vastu, selliste inimeste likvideerimiseks pannakse rohkem jõudu ja jaksu kui me osata suudame uskuda, sest tegu on kogu maailma korda muutva tegevusega, millega Janek julgelt liitunud.
Kui nad temal lasevad minna siis see tõstab terve suure rea uusi aktiviste ja uskujaid ülesse iidsete Rooma Impeeriumi reeglite vastu, hakates uskuma Loodust ja Loojat, headust, vanemaid, armastust, vabadust ja tervist.
Kui nad tema maha suudavad ülekaalukalt suruda (ilma, et vastane oma suurust täielikult paljastaks, mis omakorda tooks uusi aktiviste ja ärataks vanureid ja süsteemi sees oelvaid inimesi ülesse, et asi on kahtlane..) siis selline vaikne mahapanemine, peaks selliste kollide arvates hirmutama tänava ja akadeemia tasemel edaspidi kõike kes midagi nii suurt ja julgelt soovib tervislikul eesmärgil teha, eelkõige nõrgendades inimeste usaldusvõrgustikku ja likvideerides koostöövõimet, kartuse ja teadmatuse läbi.
Vaja on, et suurem hulk inimesi, seda SAMA tegema hakkaks, mida Janek, selle raha mis kogute, tasub osta Tor Browseri kaudu, sealse Gramsi jms tööristu kasutades odavaid kanepiravi õlisi ja neid nii avalikult jagama hakkama kui võimalik,
Ja samas jääda ise viiskakas ja MITTE riiki kiruvaks, vaid süsteemi mis Eesti Riigi on vangistanud, kui üldse, kuid hoiduge lollusest nagu oma maa inimeste sõimamisest, kui kodumaal mingit kaitset soovite selliste suuurte välisjõudude vastu, kes soovib ise täielikult kontrollima hakata kogu kanepiturgu, andes rahvale ainult teatud väärastunud liike ja veel väärastumate õpetuste ja kasutustega, et likvideerida inimeste meelte avanemine muus suunas kui seda mida orjanduseks vaja on.
Kuna nad pole suutnud noorte ajusi täiesti kontrolli all hoida ja kanepiturgu täielikult steriilseks psühdeelsete kogemuste osas teha, siis pole asi veel ka legaalne ja ku isaab olema, siis NEMAD peavad olema esimesed, nende endi arvates, kes selle Päästja vabaduse taime turvaliselt rahvani toob, mitte minig väike tervemõistuslik vanade juurtega riik ja selle tavapärased kodanikud, ...see paneks suured maafiad väga ebameeldivasse olukorda, et miks nad siis ei teadnud ega ei teinud..
https://www.wired.com/2014/04/grams-search-engine-dark-web/
Kui nad temal lasevad minna siis see tõstab terve suure rea uusi aktiviste ja uskujaid ülesse iidsete Rooma Impeeriumi reeglite vastu, hakates uskuma Loodust ja Loojat, headust, vanemaid, armastust, vabadust ja tervist.
Kui nad tema maha suudavad ülekaalukalt suruda (ilma, et vastane oma suurust täielikult paljastaks, mis omakorda tooks uusi aktiviste ja ärataks vanureid ja süsteemi sees oelvaid inimesi ülesse, et asi on kahtlane..) siis selline vaikne mahapanemine, peaks selliste kollide arvates hirmutama tänava ja akadeemia tasemel edaspidi kõike kes midagi nii suurt ja julgelt soovib tervislikul eesmärgil teha, eelkõige nõrgendades inimeste usaldusvõrgustikku ja likvideerides koostöövõimet, kartuse ja teadmatuse läbi.
Vaja on, et suurem hulk inimesi, seda SAMA tegema hakkaks, mida Janek, selle raha mis kogute, tasub osta Tor Browseri kaudu, sealse Gramsi jms tööristu kasutades odavaid kanepiravi õlisi ja neid nii avalikult jagama hakkama kui võimalik,
Ja samas jääda ise viiskakas ja MITTE riiki kiruvaks, vaid süsteemi mis Eesti Riigi on vangistanud, kui üldse, kuid hoiduge lollusest nagu oma maa inimeste sõimamisest, kui kodumaal mingit kaitset soovite selliste suuurte välisjõudude vastu, kes soovib ise täielikult kontrollima hakata kogu kanepiturgu, andes rahvale ainult teatud väärastunud liike ja veel väärastumate õpetuste ja kasutustega, et likvideerida inimeste meelte avanemine muus suunas kui seda mida orjanduseks vaja on.
Kuna nad pole suutnud noorte ajusi täiesti kontrolli all hoida ja kanepiturgu täielikult steriilseks psühdeelsete kogemuste osas teha, siis pole asi veel ka legaalne ja ku isaab olema, siis NEMAD peavad olema esimesed, nende endi arvates, kes selle Päästja vabaduse taime turvaliselt rahvani toob, mitte minig väike tervemõistuslik vanade juurtega riik ja selle tavapärased kodanikud, ...see paneks suured maafiad väga ebameeldivasse olukorda, et miks nad siis ei teadnud ega ei teinud..
https://www.wired.com/2014/04/grams-search-engine-dark-web/
https://www.wired.com/2014/04/grams-search-engine-dark-web/
1 June 2016 00:03
Margus Meigo commented on Adam Illouz's post.
Looks like good for religious ceremony and for ordinary believers on meeting up with a G
29 May 2016 12:45
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Boor littleone
28 May 2016 21:18
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Reported
28 May 2016 21:15
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's photo.
... parimat
27 May 2016 19:51
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
Nu ütle siis ?
26 May 2016 03:00
Margus Meigo commented on Puhka Eestis's photo.
Looks epic : )
26 May 2016 02:06
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Muusika Päevad / Estonian Music Days's link.
Tõsi Tõsi: )
Kogun muidu ema teemalisi laule.. et kui teate, saate siia listi midagi veel lisada, siis palun andke teada:
Emalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ Maarja - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk61QoIbjXA Hannah - Mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNwWz9t1LE Anmatino - Sulle mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpJtZNsUls Marvi Vallaste - MU EMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDxr8GNH50 Emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYt14yuTTM Ema Süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgusoQXU8c Kannikesed emale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcNMgpaRtM Harri Vasar - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jG0O0eSSCc Siiri Sisask - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoNu3xfPM4 Erich Krieger - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQ97pf90g Ema - Kadri Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSPHMnhXuY Karl Madis - Lilled emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMC_m-PDEQo ANNE VESKI - EMA KÄED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3-Gce6XiA Palderjan - Ema roosid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW30-QtamTg Emakesele ( Ema, Kallis Ema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFyDGybdXU Emadepäea laul, Mother's Day song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpPnEMWwA Ema, kui mina kord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXMLGLJwEs Laul emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeaO5dXgU4 ÜLLAR JÖRBERG - Ma lähen nüüd, ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9IVZK_CQ Jüri Peeters Ema roosid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtnUw_qH9w SERGEI MAASIN - Ema sõna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PpPugb__A EMA - Gerli Padar & The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNcMY6x0FE Õnneseen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW0c90IM6c Marco Margna - Ema ja Isa laul
Kurvad ema laulud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oU8gqaa7s Respekt - Ema (radio edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IWQvafoxw Respekt - Miks Sündisin Nii (Official Video)
Isalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZq27NgiYM
Kogun muidu ema teemalisi laule.. et kui teate, saate siia listi midagi veel lisada, siis palun andke teada:
Emalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ Maarja - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk61QoIbjXA Hannah - Mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNwWz9t1LE Anmatino - Sulle mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpJtZNsUls Marvi Vallaste - MU EMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDxr8GNH50 Emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYt14yuTTM Ema Süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgusoQXU8c Kannikesed emale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcNMgpaRtM Harri Vasar - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jG0O0eSSCc Siiri Sisask - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoNu3xfPM4 Erich Krieger - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQ97pf90g Ema - Kadri Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSPHMnhXuY Karl Madis - Lilled emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMC_m-PDEQo ANNE VESKI - EMA KÄED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3-Gce6XiA Palderjan - Ema roosid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW30-QtamTg Emakesele ( Ema, Kallis Ema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFyDGybdXU Emadepäea laul, Mother's Day song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpPnEMWwA Ema, kui mina kord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXMLGLJwEs Laul emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeaO5dXgU4 ÜLLAR JÖRBERG - Ma lähen nüüd, ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9IVZK_CQ Jüri Peeters Ema roosid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtnUw_qH9w SERGEI MAASIN - Ema sõna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PpPugb__A EMA - Gerli Padar & The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNcMY6x0FE Õnneseen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW0c90IM6c Marco Margna - Ema ja Isa laul
Kurvad ema laulud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oU8gqaa7s Respekt - Ema (radio edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IWQvafoxw Respekt - Miks Sündisin Nii (Official Video)
Isalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZq27NgiYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ
26 May 2016 02:05
Margus Meigo commented on Muusika's link.
kena : )
26 May 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on Helgi Sallo's link.
Helgi ja toreadad inimesed, ma Ema ja pere teemalisi lauke kogun... et kui saate siia listi lisada midagi juurde, siis palun tehke seda:
Emalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ Maarja - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk61QoIbjXA Hannah - Mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNwWz9t1LE Anmatino - Sulle mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpJtZNsUls Marvi Vallaste - MU EMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDxr8GNH50 Emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYt14yuTTM Ema Süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgusoQXU8c Kannikesed emale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcNMgpaRtM Harri Vasar - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jG0O0eSSCc Siiri Sisask - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoNu3xfPM4 Erich Krieger - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQ97pf90g Ema - Kadri Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSPHMnhXuY Karl Madis - Lilled emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMC_m-PDEQo ANNE VESKI - EMA KÄED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3-Gce6XiA Palderjan - Ema roosid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW30-QtamTg Emakesele ( Ema, Kallis Ema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFyDGybdXU Emadepäea laul, Mother's Day song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpPnEMWwA Ema, kui mina kord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXMLGLJwEs Laul emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeaO5dXgU4 ÜLLAR JÖRBERG - Ma lähen nüüd, ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9IVZK_CQ Jüri Peeters Ema roosid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtnUw_qH9w SERGEI MAASIN - Ema sõna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PpPugb__A EMA - Gerli Padar & The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNcMY6x0FE Õnneseen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW0c90IM6c Marco Margna - Ema ja Isa laul
Kurvad ema laulud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oU8gqaa7s Respekt - Ema (radio edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IWQvafoxw Respekt - Miks Sündisin Nii (Official Video)
Isalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZq27NgiYM
Emalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ Maarja - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk61QoIbjXA Hannah - Mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNwWz9t1LE Anmatino - Sulle mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpJtZNsUls Marvi Vallaste - MU EMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDxr8GNH50 Emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYt14yuTTM Ema Süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgusoQXU8c Kannikesed emale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcNMgpaRtM Harri Vasar - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jG0O0eSSCc Siiri Sisask - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoNu3xfPM4 Erich Krieger - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQ97pf90g Ema - Kadri Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSPHMnhXuY Karl Madis - Lilled emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMC_m-PDEQo ANNE VESKI - EMA KÄED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3-Gce6XiA Palderjan - Ema roosid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW30-QtamTg Emakesele ( Ema, Kallis Ema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFyDGybdXU Emadepäea laul, Mother's Day song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpPnEMWwA Ema, kui mina kord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXMLGLJwEs Laul emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeaO5dXgU4 ÜLLAR JÖRBERG - Ma lähen nüüd, ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9IVZK_CQ Jüri Peeters Ema roosid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtnUw_qH9w SERGEI MAASIN - Ema sõna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PpPugb__A EMA - Gerli Padar & The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNcMY6x0FE Õnneseen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW0c90IM6c Marco Margna - Ema ja Isa laul
Kurvad ema laulud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oU8gqaa7s Respekt - Ema (radio edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IWQvafoxw Respekt - Miks Sündisin Nii (Official Video)
Isalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZq27NgiYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ
26 May 2016 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Filharmoonia Kammerkoor / Estonian Philharmonic Chamber Choir's link.
Muidu kogun Ema ja pere teemalisi laule,
kui saate midagi lisada siia listi... siis olge hea, lisage, saatke mulle ka postkasti: )
Emalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ Maarja - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk61QoIbjXA Hannah - Mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNwWz9t1LE Anmatino - Sulle mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpJtZNsUls Marvi Vallaste - MU EMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDxr8GNH50 Emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYt14yuTTM Ema Süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgusoQXU8c Kannikesed emale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcNMgpaRtM Harri Vasar - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jG0O0eSSCc Siiri Sisask - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoNu3xfPM4 Erich Krieger - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQ97pf90g Ema - Kadri Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSPHMnhXuY Karl Madis - Lilled emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMC_m-PDEQo ANNE VESKI - EMA KÄED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3-Gce6XiA Palderjan - Ema roosid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW30-QtamTg Emakesele ( Ema, Kallis Ema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFyDGybdXU Emadepäea laul, Mother's Day song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpPnEMWwA Ema, kui mina kord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXMLGLJwEs Laul emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeaO5dXgU4 ÜLLAR JÖRBERG - Ma lähen nüüd, ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9IVZK_CQ Jüri Peeters Ema roosid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtnUw_qH9w SERGEI MAASIN - Ema sõna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PpPugb__A EMA - Gerli Padar & The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNcMY6x0FE Õnneseen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW0c90IM6c Marco Margna - Ema ja Isa laul
Kurvad ema laulud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oU8gqaa7s Respekt - Ema (radio edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IWQvafoxw Respekt - Miks Sündisin Nii (Official Video)
Isalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZq27NgiYM
kui saate midagi lisada siia listi... siis olge hea, lisage, saatke mulle ka postkasti: )
Emalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ Maarja - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk61QoIbjXA Hannah - Mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNwWz9t1LE Anmatino - Sulle mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpJtZNsUls Marvi Vallaste - MU EMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDxr8GNH50 Emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYt14yuTTM Ema Süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgusoQXU8c Kannikesed emale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcNMgpaRtM Harri Vasar - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jG0O0eSSCc Siiri Sisask - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoNu3xfPM4 Erich Krieger - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQ97pf90g Ema - Kadri Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSPHMnhXuY Karl Madis - Lilled emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMC_m-PDEQo ANNE VESKI - EMA KÄED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3-Gce6XiA Palderjan - Ema roosid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW30-QtamTg Emakesele ( Ema, Kallis Ema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFyDGybdXU Emadepäea laul, Mother's Day song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpPnEMWwA Ema, kui mina kord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXMLGLJwEs Laul emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeaO5dXgU4 ÜLLAR JÖRBERG - Ma lähen nüüd, ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9IVZK_CQ Jüri Peeters Ema roosid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtnUw_qH9w SERGEI MAASIN - Ema sõna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PpPugb__A EMA - Gerli Padar & The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNcMY6x0FE Õnneseen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW0c90IM6c Marco Margna - Ema ja Isa laul
Kurvad ema laulud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oU8gqaa7s Respekt - Ema (radio edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IWQvafoxw Respekt - Miks Sündisin Nii (Official Video)
Isalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZq27NgiYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ
26 May 2016 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on kultuur.info's link.
Kena : )
26 May 2016 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Televisioon's photo.
Muidu, kogun suts Ema ja pere teemalisi laule,
siin mu väike algatuslist, kui saate lisada midagi.. siis palun lisage ja saatke postkasti ka mulle kui jaksate : )
List
Emalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ Maarja - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk61QoIbjXA Hannah - Mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNwWz9t1LE Anmatino - Sulle mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpJtZNsUls Marvi Vallaste - MU EMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDxr8GNH50 Emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYt14yuTTM Ema Süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgusoQXU8c Kannikesed emale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcNMgpaRtM Harri Vasar - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jG0O0eSSCc Siiri Sisask - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoNu3xfPM4 Erich Krieger - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQ97pf90g Ema - Kadri Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSPHMnhXuY Karl Madis - Lilled emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMC_m-PDEQo ANNE VESKI - EMA KÄED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3-Gce6XiA Palderjan - Ema roosid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW30-QtamTg Emakesele ( Ema, Kallis Ema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFyDGybdXU Emadepäea laul, Mother's Day song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpPnEMWwA Ema, kui mina kord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXMLGLJwEs Laul emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeaO5dXgU4 ÜLLAR JÖRBERG - Ma lähen nüüd, ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9IVZK_CQ Jüri Peeters Ema roosid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtnUw_qH9w SERGEI MAASIN - Ema sõna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PpPugb__A EMA - Gerli Padar & The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNcMY6x0FE Õnneseen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW0c90IM6c Marco Margna - Ema ja Isa laul
Kurvad ema laulud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oU8gqaa7s Respekt - Ema (radio edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IWQvafoxw Respekt - Miks Sündisin Nii (Official Video)
Isalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZq27NgiYM
siin mu väike algatuslist, kui saate lisada midagi.. siis palun lisage ja saatke postkasti ka mulle kui jaksate : )
List
Emalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ Maarja - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk61QoIbjXA Hannah - Mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNwWz9t1LE Anmatino - Sulle mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpJtZNsUls Marvi Vallaste - MU EMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDxr8GNH50 Emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYt14yuTTM Ema Süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgusoQXU8c Kannikesed emale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcNMgpaRtM Harri Vasar - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jG0O0eSSCc Siiri Sisask - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoNu3xfPM4 Erich Krieger - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQ97pf90g Ema - Kadri Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSPHMnhXuY Karl Madis - Lilled emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMC_m-PDEQo ANNE VESKI - EMA KÄED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3-Gce6XiA Palderjan - Ema roosid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW30-QtamTg Emakesele ( Ema, Kallis Ema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFyDGybdXU Emadepäea laul, Mother's Day song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpPnEMWwA Ema, kui mina kord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXMLGLJwEs Laul emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeaO5dXgU4 ÜLLAR JÖRBERG - Ma lähen nüüd, ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9IVZK_CQ Jüri Peeters Ema roosid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtnUw_qH9w SERGEI MAASIN - Ema sõna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PpPugb__A EMA - Gerli Padar & The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNcMY6x0FE Õnneseen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW0c90IM6c Marco Margna - Ema ja Isa laul
Kurvad ema laulud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oU8gqaa7s Respekt - Ema (radio edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IWQvafoxw Respekt - Miks Sündisin Nii (Official Video)
Isalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZq27NgiYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ
26 May 2016 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on MuusikaElu's link.
Muide, kui häid ema teemalisi laulusi teate veel, siis olge hea saatke mulle siia või postkasti ka.. siin minu väike algatuslist:
Emalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ Maarja - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk61QoIbjXA Hannah - Mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNwWz9t1LE Anmatino - Sulle mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpJtZNsUls Marvi Vallaste - MU EMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDxr8GNH50 Emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYt14yuTTM Ema Süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgusoQXU8c Kannikesed emale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcNMgpaRtM Harri Vasar - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jG0O0eSSCc Siiri Sisask - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoNu3xfPM4 Erich Krieger - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQ97pf90g Ema - Kadri Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSPHMnhXuY Karl Madis - Lilled emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMC_m-PDEQo ANNE VESKI - EMA KÄED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3-Gce6XiA Palderjan - Ema roosid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW30-QtamTg Emakesele ( Ema, Kallis Ema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFyDGybdXU Emadepäea laul, Mother's Day song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpPnEMWwA Ema, kui mina kord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXMLGLJwEs Laul emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeaO5dXgU4 ÜLLAR JÖRBERG - Ma lähen nüüd, ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9IVZK_CQ Jüri Peeters Ema roosid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtnUw_qH9w SERGEI MAASIN - Ema sõna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PpPugb__A EMA - Gerli Padar & The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNcMY6x0FE Õnneseen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW0c90IM6c Marco Margna - Ema ja Isa laul
Kurvad ema laulud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oU8gqaa7s Respekt - Ema (radio edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IWQvafoxw Respekt - Miks Sündisin Nii (Official Video)
Isalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZq27NgiYM
Emalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ Maarja - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk61QoIbjXA Hannah - Mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNwWz9t1LE Anmatino - Sulle mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpJtZNsUls Marvi Vallaste - MU EMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDxr8GNH50 Emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYt14yuTTM Ema Süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgusoQXU8c Kannikesed emale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcNMgpaRtM Harri Vasar - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jG0O0eSSCc Siiri Sisask - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoNu3xfPM4 Erich Krieger - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQ97pf90g Ema - Kadri Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSPHMnhXuY Karl Madis - Lilled emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMC_m-PDEQo ANNE VESKI - EMA KÄED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3-Gce6XiA Palderjan - Ema roosid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW30-QtamTg Emakesele ( Ema, Kallis Ema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFyDGybdXU Emadepäea laul, Mother's Day song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpPnEMWwA Ema, kui mina kord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXMLGLJwEs Laul emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeaO5dXgU4 ÜLLAR JÖRBERG - Ma lähen nüüd, ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9IVZK_CQ Jüri Peeters Ema roosid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtnUw_qH9w SERGEI MAASIN - Ema sõna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PpPugb__A EMA - Gerli Padar & The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNcMY6x0FE Õnneseen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW0c90IM6c Marco Margna - Ema ja Isa laul
Kurvad ema laulud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oU8gqaa7s Respekt - Ema (radio edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IWQvafoxw Respekt - Miks Sündisin Nii (Official Video)
Isalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZq27NgiYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ
26 May 2016 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Muusika Kuulsuste Koda's photo.
Kenad ajad : )
26 May 2016 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Televisioon's video.
Muide, kui veel häid Ema, pere teemalisi laule teate, siis olge head, viitsige mulle siia vastusesse ja/või postkasti saata, siin on väike algatuslist:
Emalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ Maarja - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk61QoIbjXA Hannah - Mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNwWz9t1LE Anmatino - Sulle mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpJtZNsUls Marvi Vallaste - MU EMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDxr8GNH50 Emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYt14yuTTM Ema Süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgusoQXU8c Kannikesed emale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcNMgpaRtM Harri Vasar - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jG0O0eSSCc Siiri Sisask - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoNu3xfPM4 Erich Krieger - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQ97pf90g Ema - Kadri Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSPHMnhXuY Karl Madis - Lilled emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMC_m-PDEQo ANNE VESKI - EMA KÄED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3-Gce6XiA Palderjan - Ema roosid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW30-QtamTg Emakesele ( Ema, Kallis Ema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFyDGybdXU Emadepäea laul, Mother's Day song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpPnEMWwA Ema, kui mina kord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXMLGLJwEs Laul emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeaO5dXgU4 ÜLLAR JÖRBERG - Ma lähen nüüd, ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9IVZK_CQ Jüri Peeters Ema roosid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtnUw_qH9w SERGEI MAASIN - Ema sõna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PpPugb__A EMA - Gerli Padar & The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNcMY6x0FE Õnneseen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW0c90IM6c Marco Margna - Ema ja Isa laul
Kurvad ema laulud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oU8gqaa7s Respekt - Ema (radio edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IWQvafoxw Respekt - Miks Sündisin Nii (Official Video)
Isalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZq27NgiYM
Emalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ Maarja - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk61QoIbjXA Hannah - Mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNwWz9t1LE Anmatino - Sulle mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpJtZNsUls Marvi Vallaste - MU EMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDxr8GNH50 Emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYt14yuTTM Ema Süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgusoQXU8c Kannikesed emale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcNMgpaRtM Harri Vasar - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jG0O0eSSCc Siiri Sisask - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoNu3xfPM4 Erich Krieger - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQ97pf90g Ema - Kadri Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSPHMnhXuY Karl Madis - Lilled emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMC_m-PDEQo ANNE VESKI - EMA KÄED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3-Gce6XiA Palderjan - Ema roosid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW30-QtamTg Emakesele ( Ema, Kallis Ema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFyDGybdXU Emadepäea laul, Mother's Day song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpPnEMWwA Ema, kui mina kord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXMLGLJwEs Laul emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeaO5dXgU4 ÜLLAR JÖRBERG - Ma lähen nüüd, ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9IVZK_CQ Jüri Peeters Ema roosid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtnUw_qH9w SERGEI MAASIN - Ema sõna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PpPugb__A EMA - Gerli Padar & The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNcMY6x0FE Õnneseen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW0c90IM6c Marco Margna - Ema ja Isa laul
Kurvad ema laulud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oU8gqaa7s Respekt - Ema (radio edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IWQvafoxw Respekt - Miks Sündisin Nii (Official Video)
Isalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZq27NgiYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ
26 May 2016 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Muusika Päevad / Estonian Music Days's link.
Vaatame üleslaadimisi : )
26 May 2016 01:58
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Tantsuagentuur's post.
Kena : )
26 May 2016 01:57
Margus Meigo commented on Estonian Embassy in London's link.
Ilus ilus : )
26 May 2016 01:57
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Muusika Kuulsuste Koda's photo.
Muide mehed, kui häid ema laule teate, siis palun lisage mulle siia listi:
Emalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ Maarja - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk61QoIbjXA Hannah - Mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNwWz9t1LE Anmatino - Sulle mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpJtZNsUls Marvi Vallaste - MU EMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDxr8GNH50 Emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYt14yuTTM Ema Süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgusoQXU8c Kannikesed emale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcNMgpaRtM Harri Vasar - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jG0O0eSSCc Siiri Sisask - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoNu3xfPM4 Erich Krieger - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQ97pf90g Ema - Kadri Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSPHMnhXuY Karl Madis - Lilled emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMC_m-PDEQo ANNE VESKI - EMA KÄED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3-Gce6XiA Palderjan - Ema roosid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW30-QtamTg Emakesele ( Ema, Kallis Ema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFyDGybdXU Emadepäea laul, Mother's Day song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpPnEMWwA Ema, kui mina kord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXMLGLJwEs Laul emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeaO5dXgU4 ÜLLAR JÖRBERG - Ma lähen nüüd, ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9IVZK_CQ Jüri Peeters Ema roosid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtnUw_qH9w SERGEI MAASIN - Ema sõna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PpPugb__A EMA - Gerli Padar & The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNcMY6x0FE Õnneseen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW0c90IM6c Marco Margna - Ema ja Isa laul
Kurvad ema laulud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oU8gqaa7s Respekt - Ema (radio edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IWQvafoxw Respekt - Miks Sündisin Nii (Official Video)
Isalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZq27NgiYM
Emalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ Maarja - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk61QoIbjXA Hannah - Mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNwWz9t1LE Anmatino - Sulle mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpJtZNsUls Marvi Vallaste - MU EMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDxr8GNH50 Emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYt14yuTTM Ema Süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgusoQXU8c Kannikesed emale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcNMgpaRtM Harri Vasar - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jG0O0eSSCc Siiri Sisask - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoNu3xfPM4 Erich Krieger - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQ97pf90g Ema - Kadri Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSPHMnhXuY Karl Madis - Lilled emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMC_m-PDEQo ANNE VESKI - EMA KÄED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3-Gce6XiA Palderjan - Ema roosid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW30-QtamTg Emakesele ( Ema, Kallis Ema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFyDGybdXU Emadepäea laul, Mother's Day song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpPnEMWwA Ema, kui mina kord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXMLGLJwEs Laul emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeaO5dXgU4 ÜLLAR JÖRBERG - Ma lähen nüüd, ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9IVZK_CQ Jüri Peeters Ema roosid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtnUw_qH9w SERGEI MAASIN - Ema sõna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PpPugb__A EMA - Gerli Padar & The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNcMY6x0FE Õnneseen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW0c90IM6c Marco Margna - Ema ja Isa laul
Kurvad ema laulud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oU8gqaa7s Respekt - Ema (radio edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IWQvafoxw Respekt - Miks Sündisin Nii (Official Video)
Isalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZq27NgiYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ
26 May 2016 01:57
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Rahvusringhääling's link.
Ilus Ilus, nii peabki : )
26 May 2016 01:56
Margus Meigo commented on Õhtuleht's photo.
MUide kogun "ema" laule praegu, et kui Sul on midagi siia listi lisada, kasvõi muude lauljate poolt samu laule, siis palun jagage siin vastuses ja postkasti mulle : )
Emalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ Maarja - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk61QoIbjXA Hannah - Mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNwWz9t1LE Anmatino - Sulle mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpJtZNsUls Marvi Vallaste - MU EMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDxr8GNH50 Emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYt14yuTTM Ema Süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgusoQXU8c Kannikesed emale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcNMgpaRtM Harri Vasar - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jG0O0eSSCc Siiri Sisask - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoNu3xfPM4 Erich Krieger - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQ97pf90g Ema - Kadri Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSPHMnhXuY Karl Madis - Lilled emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMC_m-PDEQo ANNE VESKI - EMA KÄED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3-Gce6XiA Palderjan - Ema roosid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW30-QtamTg Emakesele ( Ema, Kallis Ema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFyDGybdXU Emadepäea laul, Mother's Day song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpPnEMWwA Ema, kui mina kord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXMLGLJwEs Laul emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeaO5dXgU4 ÜLLAR JÖRBERG - Ma lähen nüüd, ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9IVZK_CQ Jüri Peeters Ema roosid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtnUw_qH9w SERGEI MAASIN - Ema sõna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PpPugb__A EMA - Gerli Padar & The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNcMY6x0FE Õnneseen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW0c90IM6c Marco Margna - Ema ja Isa laul
Kurvad ema laulud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oU8gqaa7s Respekt - Ema (radio edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IWQvafoxw Respekt - Miks Sündisin Nii (Official Video)
Isalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZq27NgiYM
Emalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ Maarja - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk61QoIbjXA Hannah - Mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNwWz9t1LE Anmatino - Sulle mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpJtZNsUls Marvi Vallaste - MU EMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDxr8GNH50 Emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYt14yuTTM Ema Süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgusoQXU8c Kannikesed emale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcNMgpaRtM Harri Vasar - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jG0O0eSSCc Siiri Sisask - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoNu3xfPM4 Erich Krieger - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQ97pf90g Ema - Kadri Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSPHMnhXuY Karl Madis - Lilled emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMC_m-PDEQo ANNE VESKI - EMA KÄED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3-Gce6XiA Palderjan - Ema roosid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW30-QtamTg Emakesele ( Ema, Kallis Ema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFyDGybdXU Emadepäea laul, Mother's Day song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpPnEMWwA Ema, kui mina kord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXMLGLJwEs Laul emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeaO5dXgU4 ÜLLAR JÖRBERG - Ma lähen nüüd, ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9IVZK_CQ Jüri Peeters Ema roosid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtnUw_qH9w SERGEI MAASIN - Ema sõna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PpPugb__A EMA - Gerli Padar & The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNcMY6x0FE Õnneseen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW0c90IM6c Marco Margna - Ema ja Isa laul
Kurvad ema laulud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oU8gqaa7s Respekt - Ema (radio edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IWQvafoxw Respekt - Miks Sündisin Nii (Official Video)
Isalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZq27NgiYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ
26 May 2016 01:56
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Muusika Päevad / Estonian Music Days's link.
Tore Tore : ))
Kogun Ema laule praegu muidu.. et kui kellegil on täiendust listi, siis palun jagage:
Emalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ Maarja - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk61QoIbjXA Hannah - Mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNwWz9t1LE Anmatino - Sulle mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpJtZNsUls Marvi Vallaste - MU EMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDxr8GNH50 Emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYt14yuTTM Ema Süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgusoQXU8c Kannikesed emale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcNMgpaRtM Harri Vasar - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jG0O0eSSCc Siiri Sisask - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoNu3xfPM4 Erich Krieger - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQ97pf90g Ema - Kadri Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSPHMnhXuY Karl Madis - Lilled emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMC_m-PDEQo ANNE VESKI - EMA KÄED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3-Gce6XiA Palderjan - Ema roosid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW30-QtamTg Emakesele ( Ema, Kallis Ema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFyDGybdXU Emadepäea laul, Mother's Day song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpPnEMWwA Ema, kui mina kord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXMLGLJwEs Laul emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeaO5dXgU4 ÜLLAR JÖRBERG - Ma lähen nüüd, ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9IVZK_CQ Jüri Peeters Ema roosid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtnUw_qH9w SERGEI MAASIN - Ema sõna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PpPugb__A EMA - Gerli Padar & The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNcMY6x0FE Õnneseen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW0c90IM6c Marco Margna - Ema ja Isa laul
Kurvad ema laulud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oU8gqaa7s Respekt - Ema (radio edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IWQvafoxw Respekt - Miks Sündisin Nii (Official Video)
Isalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZq27NgiYM
Kogun Ema laule praegu muidu.. et kui kellegil on täiendust listi, siis palun jagage:
Emalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ Maarja - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk61QoIbjXA Hannah - Mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNwWz9t1LE Anmatino - Sulle mu ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpJtZNsUls Marvi Vallaste - MU EMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDxr8GNH50 Emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYt14yuTTM Ema Süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWgusoQXU8c Kannikesed emale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcNMgpaRtM Harri Vasar - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jG0O0eSSCc Siiri Sisask - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reoNu3xfPM4 Erich Krieger - Ema süda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnQ97pf90g Ema - Kadri Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FSPHMnhXuY Karl Madis - Lilled emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMC_m-PDEQo ANNE VESKI - EMA KÄED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3-Gce6XiA Palderjan - Ema roosid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW30-QtamTg Emakesele ( Ema, Kallis Ema )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BFyDGybdXU Emadepäea laul, Mother's Day song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKpPnEMWwA Ema, kui mina kord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXMLGLJwEs Laul emale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeaO5dXgU4 ÜLLAR JÖRBERG - Ma lähen nüüd, ema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ9IVZK_CQ Jüri Peeters Ema roosid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtnUw_qH9w SERGEI MAASIN - Ema sõna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PpPugb__A EMA - Gerli Padar & The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNcMY6x0FE Õnneseen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWW0c90IM6c Marco Margna - Ema ja Isa laul
Kurvad ema laulud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oU8gqaa7s Respekt - Ema (radio edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_IWQvafoxw Respekt - Miks Sündisin Nii (Official Video)
Isalaulud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZq27NgiYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqLD02cbuzQ
26 May 2016 01:54
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Rahvusringhääling's link.
Ilus Ilus : )
26 May 2016 01:52
Margus Meigo replied to Jeya Theepan Joseph's comment.
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I guess you do not know word "egocentric" or "idiot" meaning, so why to even waste time about talking so high consepts as huspand and women, and wife ?
But at least, this talk, besides spelling, was help to someone,
Bye25 May 2016 11:38
Margus Meigo replied to Jeya Theepan Joseph's comment.
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anyway, i am off,
here is things for you to think about, for few generations (not, that perverts or gays or other kind of like that, can have many generations... you selfish man )
LSD would help you most likelly yes,
but on 1200 mic amounts (+ few smaller ones top of that, natural psychdellics), in nature, with some woman around, so you can understand,25 May 2016 11:34
Margus Meigo replied to Jeya Theepan Joseph's comment.
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I mena, using metal for traveling, instead of nature and a human higer mind and abilities,
but i guess it is naturally off limits for demon posessed beings and the ones with no soul and a body same time (just with no soul, and no body, can be more possible..)25 May 2016 11:32
Margus Meigo replied to Jeya Theepan Joseph's comment.
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I guess, you guys are like you are.. you told me to f off long time ago and told that You will not respond anymore, and here you are ,still cring for your lost basic human abilities,
i guess you also this kind of "human" who dreaming about timetravel and other planet travel with a metal, instead of doing it, naturally, as normal people
you know, the ones who know what is difference between soulless man body and a a life giver women,25 May 2016 11:30
Margus Meigo replied to Jeya Theepan Joseph's comment.
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Christian ?25 May 2016 11:26
Margus Meigo replied to Jeya Theepan Joseph's comment.
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Yes, this is what i do , teaching u about BASIC25 May 2016 11:26
Margus Meigo replied to Jeya Theepan Joseph's comment.
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Josh Smith yes animals do talk, But not a gay humans, as their (gay dudes) consisiusness is so much lover level, i guess you did not know that...
Unless you are REAL faggot demon, these mind is higher level and they know well what they do... can even communicate telepathically.. it is basic... but not meant to be known for the ones, in smaller mind25 May 2016 11:24
Margus Meigo replied to Jeya Theepan Joseph's comment.
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Josh Smith yes they can (animal give...). More then a communist brainwashed confused gay boy
I guess you not really tuned in to nature, are you.
Man can NOT be a huspand, as HUSPAND, is ANOTHER BEING, who is spiritual realm, connected their mind and consicusness to a female being
basic abc25 May 2016 11:21
Margus Meigo replied to Jeya Theepan Joseph's comment.
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Josh Smith No they can not, go to kindergarden silly confused boy25 May 2016 11:20
Margus Meigo replied to Jeya Theepan Joseph's comment.
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Craig Nicklin so what is whorst wrong energy wize, the animal sex or gay sex? If you know they so different, explain me what is better, so i know also
for now, i would medicate one and another25 May 2016 11:19
Margus Meigo replied to Jeya Theepan Joseph's comment.
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Josh Smith no mayor problem is that you imagined, that gay man can be a huspand, that man can replace women, that women is nothing and replacebale by man, as you think, this is mayor problem,
this that i can not spell your little English language, is not a mayor problem, i am from the lineage of Non-indoeuropean language tree, that was developed 10 000 years before English, so i feel little, this to be a problem25 May 2016 11:17
Margus Meigo replied to Jeya Theepan Joseph's comment.
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Rape is only, when you do what others does not want to, so no, am newer rape unless somoene deeply lie to me in bed25 May 2016 11:15
Margus Meigo replied to Jeya Theepan Joseph's comment.
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I think your understanding, of reading what i say, is least of our problem25 May 2016 11:13
Margus Meigo replied to Jeya Theepan Joseph's comment.
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Josh Smith sex can have dog also whit a gay man, we talking about Huspand, gay man can not be a huspand25 May 2016 11:12
Margus Meigo replied to Jeya Theepan Joseph's comment.
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Josh Smith Think what You say, You CAN not have same sex REAL famile, as man and women ONLY can proper way join in to ONE body, so it is spiritually and scientifically impossible, besides many other ways, to even call that so.
And just having a man and women also does not make a family, as someone can live 10ys and still think they are seperate being of eachother, so they will stay as women and man, not as huspand and wife (who are totally different beings, if we only know)
Yes, they can be society morally good wanting people, and do not much more evil besides what they do in when channeling demons in bedroom (as this is the act, but people who are in stone age with their understanding of sexual energies and parallel worlds, for them it is kind of hard to know what am talking about. Part of the channeling is to make people blind to this what happens to them at best and just give them pleasure and secure feeling, thats all.. )25 May 2016 11:10
Margus Meigo commented on Jeya Theepan Joseph's post.
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that's evil to say that to a child... but communist have try to figure out many ways that is better then the ones written down thousands of years ago.. still have not found any, as there is no..
But yea, i hope there is in real life not so retarded gay parents who would put hes partner or adobted child in to that situation, if they are, they are serioslly fked up in head and need help25 May 2016 10:58
Margus Meigo commented on Rasmus Merivoo's post.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayniggers_from_Outer_Space Peaasi, et keegi ..vahele ei saanud ja õppis loo moraali selgeks, ehk... ufad on päris : )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayniggers_from_Outer_Space
24 May 2016 14:24
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
ja kurb kurb samal ajal, dramaatiline tegelikult
24 May 2016 14:22
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
väk
24 May 2016 14:22
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
:D
24 May 2016 14:21
Margus Meigo replied to Kätlin Pirk's comment.
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
okey, aitab kyll lamp nüüd :p
okey, aitab kyll lamp nüüd :p
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
21 May 2016 17:05
Margus Meigo replied to Kätlin Pirk's comment.
ma loodetavasti kyll marslane pole :p, ja vaevaltki, et Naised ühe planeediga piirduvad omades kogu kosmost seest ja väljast..,
kui see selleks.. eks on need naised kellele öeldakse, kust nad on ja kuidas olema peavad (kontsakingadel, et saamatuna paistaksid, mukitud et eneseväärtus väiksem oleks ja blondeeritud ning raseeritud, et naiselike ürgjõududega ühendust poleks...) ja siis on need Naised, kes aru saavad, et namad on need, kes ütlema peaks kuidas neil hea on ja mehe KÄSK jumalalt, on naisele pakkuda mida naine soovib ja mees kes midagigi vähemat julgeb väita on jõle ja kui just kividega surnuks visata ei saa, tänapäeva seaduste pärast, siis eemale hoida neist ikkagi tasuks kaarega, et nad areneda saaks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25mlJLn3Ff4
kui see selleks.. eks on need naised kellele öeldakse, kust nad on ja kuidas olema peavad (kontsakingadel, et saamatuna paistaksid, mukitud et eneseväärtus väiksem oleks ja blondeeritud ning raseeritud, et naiselike ürgjõududega ühendust poleks...) ja siis on need Naised, kes aru saavad, et namad on need, kes ütlema peaks kuidas neil hea on ja mehe KÄSK jumalalt, on naisele pakkuda mida naine soovib ja mees kes midagigi vähemat julgeb väita on jõle ja kui just kividega surnuks visata ei saa, tänapäeva seaduste pärast, siis eemale hoida neist ikkagi tasuks kaarega, et nad areneda saaks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25mlJLn3Ff4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25mlJLn3Ff4
21 May 2016 17:04
Margus Meigo commented on Kätlin Pirk's post.
Nii on, usutlevad Naised, kes "loogikat" iroonilises noodis hellaks kaastundeliseks armsaks mõnituseks peavad, et noh, nagu arvuti kes ei mõista tundeid ja muid spektrumeid mida inimene suuteline on tajuma... ainult arvutama...et loogika ainult siis toimub kui ette taha arvuti sees ja väljas kõik õigesti ära teha ja siis õiges olukorras õigeid nuppe õiges järjekorras vajutada... ja siis teeb seda täpselt mida juba ette aimata ja arvata oli.. kuid hea, et kenasti ja õigesti, ettemääratult ära tegi...et katki pole.. muidu pole ainukesest potensiaalist ehk loogikast ka tolku...
et siis mõtlevad vb : nii on nii on...... psühh sõna tüleb teatavasti siis sõnast psyche.. ehk siis:
"noun
noun: psyche; plural noun: psyches
the human soul, mind, or spirit."
Ehk siis ühel on hing teisel arvutus.. ja eks selle hinge arvutuse mõttes, elu mõtet mõtlema ja arvutama see mees vast toodud.. kuid elu ise... on selles kellelt nad elu saavad.. kes neil elu andis.. (Proverbs: 8:24)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgVHi3X-2QU
et siis mõtlevad vb : nii on nii on...... psühh sõna tüleb teatavasti siis sõnast psyche.. ehk siis:
"noun
noun: psyche; plural noun: psyches
the human soul, mind, or spirit."
Ehk siis ühel on hing teisel arvutus.. ja eks selle hinge arvutuse mõttes, elu mõtet mõtlema ja arvutama see mees vast toodud.. kuid elu ise... on selles kellelt nad elu saavad.. kes neil elu andis.. (Proverbs: 8:24)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgVHi3X-2QU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgVHi3X-2QU
21 May 2016 16:48
Margus Meigo commented on Kätlin Pirk's post.
ahaaa #doggystyle sutsu üle täägis hooga :p
Kuid yea, hea näide ühiskonna eludest..
Kuid yea, hea näide ühiskonna eludest..
21 May 2016 14:40
Margus Meigo commented on Javarrice Buckley's post.
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supper, i hope they take magic mushrooms there as well
and PS. : . No Real believer or knower of Christianity i good wears a tie, ever21 May 2016 03:06
Margus Meigo replied to Karina Shebunova's comment.
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Sovitused on alati marjaks ära, vahest väike laps ka ei tea, et pole sobbilik teiste ees ennast näppida, siis hea kui keegi õpetab...19 May 2016 23:25
Margus Meigo replied to Adriana Mänd's comment.
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LSD (või maagilised seened, veelgi ohutum ja tervilikum)19 May 2016 23:22
Margus Meigo replied to Adriana Mänd's comment.
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"väga", sis suure V'ga19 May 2016 23:21
Margus Meigo replied to Adriana Mänd's comment.
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väga kena, ainult... jäta kulmud naturalseks :p19 May 2016 23:20
Margus Meigo replied to Crislyn Jablonski's comment.
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Aamen19 May 2016 21:06
Margus Meigo commented on Adriana Mänd's post.
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OKey, ülejäänud pildid profiilil on paremad, see siin Adriana ehmatas küll ära...19 May 2016 21:05
Margus Meigo commented on Adriana Mänd's post.
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Milleks nagu see... ?
ja vaat kui kurvad, peaegu elust olematud silmad...19 May 2016 21:04
Margus Meigo commented on Marek Prits's post.
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I know what he means.. this is why is needed to look over all important text before hand.. but then again.. cant know where and what spirit takes You to19 May 2016 21:02
Margus Meigo commented on Whale Maiden's post.
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Prayers and health from Estonia as well.. (L)19 May 2016 21:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aga kuidas muidu õigeid sulgi näeksime, kui neid ei näidata.
18 May 2016 15:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
st märgatakse osaliselt kuid ei saada aru, ja kui saadakse aru, siis osaliselt, kuid suuremas osas märgatakse ainult seda millele tähelepanu juhitud vaenlase enda poolt on... ilma arusaamadeta, mida see tähendab ja kuhu see viib.,
Kui ei taheta mõista, et Eestlus on globaalsel areenal väga silmas ja selle likvideerimisega tegeletakse, sest meie hääl saab kõikuma panna suuri plaane,
sest see mida meie saame teha tehnoloogiat kasutades, enamus iidsed rahvad, kellest enamus likvideeritud, enam ei saa.
Need kes näevad kohe inimese kujust ära mis vaimude küüsis keegi on
Kui ei taheta mõista, et Eestlus on globaalsel areenal väga silmas ja selle likvideerimisega tegeletakse, sest meie hääl saab kõikuma panna suuri plaane,
sest see mida meie saame teha tehnoloogiat kasutades, enamus iidsed rahvad, kellest enamus likvideeritud, enam ei saa.
Need kes näevad kohe inimese kujust ära mis vaimude küüsis keegi on
18 May 2016 15:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Vähem sest?
Ma usun, et suurim kriis ongi, ekstreemselt väike seente söömine eestis, sest kui pole arusaame kuidas loodus tegelikult tehtud on siis ei märka ka prvertsusi ja suundasi meie ümber.
Lisaks kui ei söö seeni, siis ikka VÄGA raske hallata nii suuri arusaame ja struktuure ja võime nagu seda on pentagrammi taga olev.
Ega muidu siis nõukogude liit seda surmaähvardusel siiani kelanud pole. N.Liit ehk siis Rooma Kolmas Globaalne Impeerium, Liberaalid, ja muud tulnukahvid
Ja mida sinu kommentaartähendas siis, selgita?
Ma usun, et suurim kriis ongi, ekstreemselt väike seente söömine eestis, sest kui pole arusaame kuidas loodus tegelikult tehtud on siis ei märka ka prvertsusi ja suundasi meie ümber.
Lisaks kui ei söö seeni, siis ikka VÄGA raske hallata nii suuri arusaame ja struktuure ja võime nagu seda on pentagrammi taga olev.
Ega muidu siis nõukogude liit seda surmaähvardusel siiani kelanud pole. N.Liit ehk siis Rooma Kolmas Globaalne Impeerium, Liberaalid, ja muud tulnukahvid
Ja mida sinu kommentaartähendas siis, selgita?
18 May 2016 15:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vaimurohke, ehk siis paljudest vaimudest ülevõetud, vaevatud.
St, see jäi selgitamatta.
St, see jäi selgitamatta.
18 May 2016 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's photo.
Valetamine tuleb illegaalseks kuulutada, aga keegi pole soovinud seda IT systeemi püstitada millest ammu rääkinud oleks, mis kõik liistule võtaks kelel luukered kapis...
18 May 2016 15:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
asi on põhimõttes, mitte nendes kopikates
18 May 2016 15:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
neil nii võimas masin taga, kultuseks tehud, et see suurt osa ekre valijaid ei kõiguta, ... muidugi kui mahviale võlgu jääda, Perekonnale... siis on tagajärjed kui poisid vabandust ei palu õigeaegselt...
18 May 2016 15:47
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Kuid millised on suurimad vead või möödalastud võimalused Sinu arvates Tarmo ?
Näiteks, kas oleks pidanud kellegile arutluse asemel kohe märja rütikuga vastu vahtimist virutama, näiteks kui arutatakse kas minig pervert või suli on sobilik õiguskomisjoni liige olema vms
(arvesta, et siin piltnikud loevad ka seina, et siiis tee kohe tõsine ja suur list)
Näiteks, kas oleks pidanud kellegile arutluse asemel kohe märja rütikuga vastu vahtimist virutama, näiteks kui arutatakse kas minig pervert või suli on sobilik õiguskomisjoni liige olema vms
(arvesta, et siin piltnikud loevad ka seina, et siiis tee kohe tõsine ja suur list)
18 May 2016 15:45
Margus Meigo replied to Erkki Mandel's comment.
Taolises küsimuses bussiga muidugi... jah, hea, et seegi on, võiks öelda. Tunneme headmeelt, et keegi kaasmaalastest saab tasuta sõita, kuna investeerib linna infrastruktuuri,
kui linna poolt rääkida.
kui linna poolt rääkida.
18 May 2016 15:43
Margus Meigo replied to Erkki Mandel's comment.
võrdsus on üks väga paha asi kui seda ilmselgelt vähem võrdsematele antakse või rohkem võrdsematele peale surutakse.
18 May 2016 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Karm...
18 May 2016 15:32
Margus Meigo replied to Rain Jung's comment.
mis nad hakkavad muuseumi tegema ka sinna veel v?
Praegustes juba vist vähe käiakse...
Nu mine tea, loodetakse ehk, et siis kui suur pid, et sis käiakse rohkem...
Kui julge ja Aus muuseum oleks, siis oleks vast tolku kah..
Praegustes juba vist vähe käiakse...
Nu mine tea, loodetakse ehk, et siis kui suur pid, et sis käiakse rohkem...
Kui julge ja Aus muuseum oleks, siis oleks vast tolku kah..
18 May 2016 14:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kes vana asja meeles peab, sellel pole kommunistid suutnud mälu veel ära pügada.
Nu noored polnud valmis, sest vanad ei suvatsenud interneti lahti võtta ja kurssi viia viimaste suurte suurplaanidega ja propakandadega, selliselt, et Noored arusaanud oleks, et Vanad nii uut kui ka Vana teavad ja arusaavad ja seostada mõistavad.
Kuid noorte ja vanade eraldamine, on üks rooma-greeka ja kommunistide vana taktika kuidas maid vallutada ja iga 30 aasta takka uus muudatus tuua, kus pukis need kes suures osas eelmiste valud unustanud on, või muidu väärarusaama, ja killukest pilti omavad sellest mis neil lubatud kõrvadevahel omada ja millest eetris rääkida.
Meil ETVs ja teleekraanil telemängude suurstaar seaduslikult ,mustamaagia ja occultismi raamatukogu omav inimene (promos seda uhkelt), kes käib liberaalseid poisse endal autos suhuvõtmas palkamas ja mude rituaalide jaoks... selline on avalikult seaduslikult heas valguses, oma särava pügatud näolapiga
Karm eesti olukord...
ERRil peaks olema seadus, et kui oled pervertsustega tegeleja, siis võid rääkida, aga su nime külge kleebitakse ka, millega tegeled
Nu noored polnud valmis, sest vanad ei suvatsenud interneti lahti võtta ja kurssi viia viimaste suurte suurplaanidega ja propakandadega, selliselt, et Noored arusaanud oleks, et Vanad nii uut kui ka Vana teavad ja arusaavad ja seostada mõistavad.
Kuid noorte ja vanade eraldamine, on üks rooma-greeka ja kommunistide vana taktika kuidas maid vallutada ja iga 30 aasta takka uus muudatus tuua, kus pukis need kes suures osas eelmiste valud unustanud on, või muidu väärarusaama, ja killukest pilti omavad sellest mis neil lubatud kõrvadevahel omada ja millest eetris rääkida.
Meil ETVs ja teleekraanil telemängude suurstaar seaduslikult ,mustamaagia ja occultismi raamatukogu omav inimene (promos seda uhkelt), kes käib liberaalseid poisse endal autos suhuvõtmas palkamas ja mude rituaalide jaoks... selline on avalikult seaduslikult heas valguses, oma särava pügatud näolapiga
Karm eesti olukord...
ERRil peaks olema seadus, et kui oled pervertsustega tegeleja, siis võid rääkida, aga su nime külge kleebitakse ka, millega tegeled
18 May 2016 14:39
Margus Meigo replied to Tajo Kadajas's comment.
Õiget asja, ajab, mh ?
18 May 2016 14:29
Margus Meigo replied to Tajo Kadajas's comment.
Point on selles, et kui erakond ennast Aatelisena reklaamib, ja siis omasi kaitseb kus peaks inimese avalikult, põlvili vabandust paluma panema, otseeetris naiste ees, ... et siis mida veel kaitsta ja salata võidakse kui selliste asjade orki minnakse...
Muidugi on liberaalidel olemas mustad varjumehed, kes nii meile aktsepteerimata maailmades enamus süüdistajaid vaikima suudab veenda... kuid.. ahk, ...
mis siin ikka..
Lihtsalt pisara võtab silmi, kui nii tõsised asjad jäätakse tähelepanuta,
Nagu ka suur osa ekrelasi kes Juudi vihkamise kommunistlikus (fassistlikus) portaalis, otsesed kaaslased ja fännid olid avalikult kuni sinnamaani kui see avalikuseette toodi..
Kuidas neid inimesi keegi siis nimepidi ravile ei viinud, kellel nii suured punased propakandad kõrvadevahel juba küpsemas siis olid ?
See on ju teada, kuhu edasi selliste mõttemaailmadega inimesed suunduvad: Sinna kuhu suunatakse
Muidugi on liberaalidel olemas mustad varjumehed, kes nii meile aktsepteerimata maailmades enamus süüdistajaid vaikima suudab veenda... kuid.. ahk, ...
mis siin ikka..
Lihtsalt pisara võtab silmi, kui nii tõsised asjad jäätakse tähelepanuta,
Nagu ka suur osa ekrelasi kes Juudi vihkamise kommunistlikus (fassistlikus) portaalis, otsesed kaaslased ja fännid olid avalikult kuni sinnamaani kui see avalikuseette toodi..
Kuidas neid inimesi keegi siis nimepidi ravile ei viinud, kellel nii suured punased propakandad kõrvadevahel juba küpsemas siis olid ?
See on ju teada, kuhu edasi selliste mõttemaailmadega inimesed suunduvad: Sinna kuhu suunatakse
18 May 2016 14:28
Margus Meigo replied to Tajo Kadajas's comment.
Tegu siis mitte ühe, vaid mitme eri naise süüdistusega: http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/jarjekordne-skandaal-tallinki-naistootajad-suudistavad-ekre-saadikut-jaak-madisoni-oma-kajutitesse-tungimises?id=71316001
Kas siis kaameraid ei ole v, nende asjade kindlaks tegemiseks?
Ning peaks lugu kuulama ka neilt naistelt, kes sis temaga magasid, mis nemad arvavad... seda kardavad nad kõige kõige enam... sest naistel on selles osas suur võin enamus ebameeldivaid inimesi igasugustelt positsioonidelt likvideerida alatiseks, kui vaid Riik suts naisemeelsemaks (mitte feministlikumaks) mutuks ja neile selget kaitset suudaks pakkuda.
Eelnevalt mõnele tüdrukule vb ka tuleb osasi maarohtusi anda, mis meeled selgemaks ja ausamaks teeb, et kahtlusi poleks.
Kas siis kaameraid ei ole v, nende asjade kindlaks tegemiseks?
Ning peaks lugu kuulama ka neilt naistelt, kes sis temaga magasid, mis nemad arvavad... seda kardavad nad kõige kõige enam... sest naistel on selles osas suur võin enamus ebameeldivaid inimesi igasugustelt positsioonidelt likvideerida alatiseks, kui vaid Riik suts naisemeelsemaks (mitte feministlikumaks) mutuks ja neile selget kaitset suudaks pakkuda.
Eelnevalt mõnele tüdrukule vb ka tuleb osasi maarohtusi anda, mis meeled selgemaks ja ausamaks teeb, et kahtlusi poleks.
http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/jarjekordne-skandaal-tallinki-naistootajad-suudistavad-ekre-saadikut-jaak-madisoni-oma-kajutitesse-tungimises?id=71316001
18 May 2016 14:24
Margus Meigo replied to Tajo Kadajas's comment.
"Tallinkis töötades omastas Madison infolauda toodud laevast leitud mobiiltelefoni iPhone, rikkudes Tallinki sisekorra eeskirja, jättis ta leiu registreerimata[ ning üritas telefoni oktoobris 2014 müüa portaalis osta.ee. Veebioksjonil jäi telefoni lõpphinnaks 85€
Madisoni enda sõnul ei soovinud ta müügiga kasu teenida ning põhjendas tegu antikonsumeristliku sooviga leida sellele uus kasutaja, kuna Tallink oleks omanikuta telefoni hävitamisele saatnud.
30. märtsil 2015 karistati teda mobiiltelefoni omastamise eest väärteo korras 100-eurose rahatrahviga. 2. aprillil 2015 teatas Martin Helme, et teeb juhtumi tõttu Madisonile ettepaneku Riigikogust taanduda ning kui too keeldub, tõstatab küsimuse EKRE juhatuses; Madison leidis, et tal pole põhjust tagasi astuda ega lahkuda erakonnast, mis tema sõnul "pole kahe mehe erakond". Ta lubas jääda parlamenti ka juhul, kui erakonnast välja visatakse. "
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"23. aprill 2015 avaldas Postimees artikli milles mitmed endised Tallinki naistöötajad süüdistasid Madisoni korduvalt kopeeritud uksekaartidega ööseti nende kajutitesse tungimises. Enamasti lõppenud sissetungimine vaid vestlemisega poliitikast kuid ühel teadaoleval juhul oli Madison ennast ka lahti riietanud ning avaldanud soovi voodisse heita.
Madisoni enda sõnul oli tegemist väljamõeldiste ja laimuga. Süüdistused olevat absurdsed ning laevas tavatöötajate kajutiuksed ei käivat üldse lukus. Õhtuses Facebooki postituses võrdles ta ennast Bill Clintoniga: "Kui miski muu ei aita, tuleb ju süüdistada ahistamises. Nagu Bill Clinton juba."
// jah, ja Moonica seelikult leitud sperma oli ka väljamõeldis v...
Veidrad tegelased ikka,
Kuid noh, teda eriti ei saagi süüdistada, sest tegu viina ja pulli mehega, elumehega siis rahvakeeli, lurjusega vb kellegi muud keeli, seega kui on kaabakas siis tuleb ka teda tema enda normi moodi mõõta ja siis teine suht viisakas kaabakas väliselt,
Tuleb ainult loota, et naistepeksja ega lasteahistaja pole, kuni sinnamaani andeksantav... kuid kas ta just KONSEVATIIVIDE nime all saab esineda...
Muidugi see mis helme kaamerasse ütleb ja mida omavahel nad räägivad, see ka kahtlase väärtusega, kas see päris sama suunaline jutt on.
Kuid kõigele vaatamata, arvan ikkagi, et tegelased on vajalikud, et mugavustsoonist välja liigutada meid ja tegutsema pana, arusaada asjade ohtlikusest... kuni veel aega arusaamiseks on.
Ikkagi, Eesti emade lapsed ju... lihtsalt suts ülbeks manipuleeritud, kus elementaarseid viiskausnorme ei osata enam austada
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaak_Madison
Madisoni enda sõnul ei soovinud ta müügiga kasu teenida ning põhjendas tegu antikonsumeristliku sooviga leida sellele uus kasutaja, kuna Tallink oleks omanikuta telefoni hävitamisele saatnud.
30. märtsil 2015 karistati teda mobiiltelefoni omastamise eest väärteo korras 100-eurose rahatrahviga. 2. aprillil 2015 teatas Martin Helme, et teeb juhtumi tõttu Madisonile ettepaneku Riigikogust taanduda ning kui too keeldub, tõstatab küsimuse EKRE juhatuses; Madison leidis, et tal pole põhjust tagasi astuda ega lahkuda erakonnast, mis tema sõnul "pole kahe mehe erakond". Ta lubas jääda parlamenti ka juhul, kui erakonnast välja visatakse. "
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"23. aprill 2015 avaldas Postimees artikli milles mitmed endised Tallinki naistöötajad süüdistasid Madisoni korduvalt kopeeritud uksekaartidega ööseti nende kajutitesse tungimises. Enamasti lõppenud sissetungimine vaid vestlemisega poliitikast kuid ühel teadaoleval juhul oli Madison ennast ka lahti riietanud ning avaldanud soovi voodisse heita.
Madisoni enda sõnul oli tegemist väljamõeldiste ja laimuga. Süüdistused olevat absurdsed ning laevas tavatöötajate kajutiuksed ei käivat üldse lukus. Õhtuses Facebooki postituses võrdles ta ennast Bill Clintoniga: "Kui miski muu ei aita, tuleb ju süüdistada ahistamises. Nagu Bill Clinton juba."
// jah, ja Moonica seelikult leitud sperma oli ka väljamõeldis v...
Veidrad tegelased ikka,
Kuid noh, teda eriti ei saagi süüdistada, sest tegu viina ja pulli mehega, elumehega siis rahvakeeli, lurjusega vb kellegi muud keeli, seega kui on kaabakas siis tuleb ka teda tema enda normi moodi mõõta ja siis teine suht viisakas kaabakas väliselt,
Tuleb ainult loota, et naistepeksja ega lasteahistaja pole, kuni sinnamaani andeksantav... kuid kas ta just KONSEVATIIVIDE nime all saab esineda...
Muidugi see mis helme kaamerasse ütleb ja mida omavahel nad räägivad, see ka kahtlase väärtusega, kas see päris sama suunaline jutt on.
Kuid kõigele vaatamata, arvan ikkagi, et tegelased on vajalikud, et mugavustsoonist välja liigutada meid ja tegutsema pana, arusaada asjade ohtlikusest... kuni veel aega arusaamiseks on.
Ikkagi, Eesti emade lapsed ju... lihtsalt suts ülbeks manipuleeritud, kus elementaarseid viiskausnorme ei osata enam austada
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaak_Madison
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaak_Madison
18 May 2016 14:19
Margus Meigo replied to Tajo Kadajas's comment.
Nu mis me siin räägime, neil ei "olnud raha" isegi raamatupidaja palkamiseks, kui nad valmistel olid.
7000 otsetoetajat oli neil tooaeg..
Mitmel raamatupidamisfirmal teenust osutanud, ei ole need hinnad neil nii kallid midagi... et Eesti valitsust ülevõtta soviv asutus nüüd ei peaks jaksama seda endale lubada, juba prresdiizi mõttes.
Samas mine tea... kutid nii vaesed olid, vaimult ja Eestlaslikusest, et mõni jäi isegi mobiilivargusega vahele.,
mis hiljem vabandati välja "Tallinki sisekorra eeskirja rikkumisena"
7000 otsetoetajat oli neil tooaeg..
Mitmel raamatupidamisfirmal teenust osutanud, ei ole need hinnad neil nii kallid midagi... et Eesti valitsust ülevõtta soviv asutus nüüd ei peaks jaksama seda endale lubada, juba prresdiizi mõttes.
Samas mine tea... kutid nii vaesed olid, vaimult ja Eestlaslikusest, et mõni jäi isegi mobiilivargusega vahele.,
mis hiljem vabandati välja "Tallinki sisekorra eeskirja rikkumisena"
18 May 2016 14:09
Margus Meigo replied to Hannes 'Kuu' Mölder's comment.
Nu hannes, kus Sa oma arvamuste ja korinatega jäid nüüd ?
Ootan siin...
Ootan siin...
18 May 2016 14:03
Margus Meigo replied to Erkki Mandel's comment.
Paldiski seekõigeenam võimu vajabki :p
(taolised)
(taolised)
18 May 2016 14:01
Margus Meigo replied to Murakas Marge's comment.
Kui SINUL pole mõtet (mis on kurb!) siis see ei tähenda suuresplaanis, et mõtet poleks, lihtsalt kannatlikult otame, et selgitaksid, kasvõ iseda
kas EKRE töötab Keskerakonna kasuks või mitte?
kas EKRE töötab Keskerakonna kasuks või mitte?
18 May 2016 14:00
Margus Meigo replied to Murakas Marge's comment.
Juhan-tuhan, mis arglik taandumine ja taganemine see nüüd on lapselikult, kui tulid ärplema siis tule nüüd oma pädevate kommentaaridega välja mille puudumisega plärtsusid, me ootame, relvad valmis, parimaks relvaks on Tõe
18 May 2016 13:59
Margus Meigo replied to Kaido Raivo's comment.
Kui meie ei tee, siis teevad punased.. ja teiste valet ümber kirjutada juba raskem kui algset tõde kaitsta
18 May 2016 13:55
Margus Meigo replied to Kaido Raivo's comment.
wikipediat hoitke nii korras ja ajakohasena kui võimalik, see meie, Wikipedialaste Ametlik Palve
Sest ka see org. sees on neid teiste poliitiliste vaadetega, kes arusaavad mis selle asja potensiaal on, mis meie tuleviku kirjelduseks maailmale jääb,
see ainuke lootus, et inimesed arusaavad, et sinna tasub panna artikleid kõikide poliiitiliste veidruste kohta kuhu mujale ei lubata, tehtud nii, et saaksid ka anonüümselt, senikaua kui tõestad kust said... ja "Talk" sektionis saad märkida maha asju, mida tõestada ei saa kuid mis jääb ajaloole alles, sest see pole tavapärane weebileht mis kunagi ära kaoks.
Sest ka see org. sees on neid teiste poliitiliste vaadetega, kes arusaavad mis selle asja potensiaal on, mis meie tuleviku kirjelduseks maailmale jääb,
see ainuke lootus, et inimesed arusaavad, et sinna tasub panna artikleid kõikide poliiitiliste veidruste kohta kuhu mujale ei lubata, tehtud nii, et saaksid ka anonüümselt, senikaua kui tõestad kust said... ja "Talk" sektionis saad märkida maha asju, mida tõestada ei saa kuid mis jääb ajaloole alles, sest see pole tavapärane weebileht mis kunagi ära kaoks.
18 May 2016 13:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See võib olla viimane kord, kui selles osas Eesistuja olla saame, sellises olukorras, kus midagi määrata saame, isegi kui see on näpuotsaga, aga kui näpuotsaga õiges suunas suunata... siis see juba suure muutuse teeb.
Vasakpoolsed, liberalidest eugeenikud pole kunagi nii suurt vabadust parempoolele andnud meie lõplikuks uurimiseks, et meid lõplikult kinni keerata või ravida... anname siis neile asjad närimiseks... mis täis nii Ema armastust, kodumaa õunu kui vanarahva vanajumala teravamaid tõdesi ja suurimaid julgusi
Vasakpoolsed, liberalidest eugeenikud pole kunagi nii suurt vabadust parempoolele andnud meie lõplikuks uurimiseks, et meid lõplikult kinni keerata või ravida... anname siis neile asjad närimiseks... mis täis nii Ema armastust, kodumaa õunu kui vanarahva vanajumala teravamaid tõdesi ja suurimaid julgusi
18 May 2016 13:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lodame, et vastutusest arusaadakse, ja seda, et vaja paista erakordselt mõistliku, julge ja suuremeelsena
18 May 2016 13:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sõna sekretär tuleb siis saladuste hoidjast,
18 May 2016 13:45
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Peasekretär, ehk PeaSaladuste hoidja.... oi kuidas tal oleks alles materiali Eesti päästmiseks... ei tea, kas ikka tegi vajalikud salvestused endale kuskile mälupulgale.. loota jäääb..
Kuigi see oleks erivägedele kohe näha kui USB arvutis oli ja kui midagi kopiti... kuid riskida ika tasub, ... mingitki moodi
Kuigi see oleks erivägedele kohe näha kui USB arvutis oli ja kui midagi kopiti... kuid riskida ika tasub, ... mingitki moodi
18 May 2016 13:45
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Maa, kes maksab soovahetus operatsioonid kinni ja karistab neid soomlasi, lisa maksudega jm moodi, kes ei soovi pidevalt kolida ja korteris elada.. sellist maad poliitiliselt eriti pädevaks pidada enam ei saa ammu, kuid oma kaugemale rännanud vendi ikka aitama peaks, praegu, kui veel võimalus... sõja ajal pole midagi teha,
biotehnoloogilised, nano ja muud viiruse ja masshävitusrelvad, viiendatest kolonnidest rääkimata... see oleks mitte lahing vaid lihuniku töö seekord, sest neil kõigi meie aadressid ja kontaktid, sidemed ja jutud ka teada ja kogutud,
ing keelne sõna on : slaughter
Targana peame alles olema ja Õiget meelt elus hoidma kuni nad oma värdjaliku pervertsuse küüsi ise ära upuvad ja välja surema hakkavad kaardi majani, siis nende enda relvi, nende enda osas laseme neil endil kasutada..
biotehnoloogilised, nano ja muud viiruse ja masshävitusrelvad, viiendatest kolonnidest rääkimata... see oleks mitte lahing vaid lihuniku töö seekord, sest neil kõigi meie aadressid ja kontaktid, sidemed ja jutud ka teada ja kogutud,
ing keelne sõna on : slaughter
Targana peame alles olema ja Õiget meelt elus hoidma kuni nad oma värdjaliku pervertsuse küüsi ise ära upuvad ja välja surema hakkavad kaardi majani, siis nende enda relvi, nende enda osas laseme neil endil kasutada..
18 May 2016 13:43
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Tagaväli's comment.
Laarist ei tohi üldserääkida, sis kohe suur osa neist kes ise oma maaelu pole soovinud elus hoida lähevad väga närvi, isegi kui nad lasnamäe korteris kogu elu elanud on
18 May 2016 13:38
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Need vene lennukid siin tellitud, et siinseid võõrvõimu hävitajaid õigustada. Sest siis rahvas mõtleb "no ikka hea, et nad siin on..."
Muidugi need viis lennukit, jõuaks juba kohalike saboteeridega või kaugrakettidega enne katki kiirelt lasta, kui nad õhku tõusta jõuaksid, kui peaks prob. olema...
Eelnevalt puistatakse lennuväe kohale ohku ainet mis lennuväe haigeks teeb ja mitte reageerivaks ja siis...
Oh, mooduseid ni palju, aga riigis kus on Simid jms, me ei pea eriti pikalt fantaseerima, et kas meil miskit strateegilist eelist üldse oleks, kui laseksime ennast ja maailma sõtta trikitada..
Muidugi need viis lennukit, jõuaks juba kohalike saboteeridega või kaugrakettidega enne katki kiirelt lasta, kui nad õhku tõusta jõuaksid, kui peaks prob. olema...
Eelnevalt puistatakse lennuväe kohale ohku ainet mis lennuväe haigeks teeb ja mitte reageerivaks ja siis...
Oh, mooduseid ni palju, aga riigis kus on Simid jms, me ei pea eriti pikalt fantaseerima, et kas meil miskit strateegilist eelist üldse oleks, kui laseksime ennast ja maailma sõtta trikitada..
18 May 2016 13:37
Margus Meigo replied to Peeter Aitai's comment.
ülejooksik võib ka head tähendada, kui inimene avaliku selgituse teb, et oli enne pimeduses, ajupestud ja siis sai valgustuse ja valguse uue tõe osas, ... et siis kui sellised avalikud selgitused on koos oluliste punktidega... siis arusaadav.
Kes aga lihtsalt luurele läheb, või keda ostetakse kaardina taga...
Kes aga lihtsalt luurele läheb, või keda ostetakse kaardina taga...
18 May 2016 13:33
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
peaasi, et nad viisnurkasi kuskile ei topi salaja
18 May 2016 13:32
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Õige ajastus, kui me vaid valmis juba oleks veel viimast korda rahvuslikust õigusest rääkima, rahvuslikust inimlikust identiteedist, sest rahvuslus kuulutatakse illegaalseks varsti, sest see solvab muid, mitte rahvuseid,
Ilmanaljata, päriselt ka tehakse rahvuslus illegaalseks,
Ilmanaljata, päriselt ka tehakse rahvuslus illegaalseks,
18 May 2016 13:31
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's photo.
Trollidel selge juhis : KUi on uudis teist endast, siis Jumalaeest hoitke mokk maas, ... kui .. sis vastake mõnele kommmentaarile väga väga tagasihoidlikult, et mitte tekitada hirmuarusaama rahval, nagu käiksitki palgalised kommnetaatorid aastatega nende psüholoogiat ja arusaama alustalasi muutmas
18 May 2016 13:29
Margus Meigo replied to Hannes 'Kuu' Mölder's comment.
suts ebaselge, kuid küsige lisa neis osades kellel soovi.
18 May 2016 13:26
Margus Meigo replied to Hannes 'Kuu' Mölder's comment.
Mosee ehitamisel arvasid nad, et 30 000 peaks hakkama saama, naersin välja ja ütlesin, et see suma peab ikka mitmekümnetes millionites olema, et Vanajumalat siin mingi ubrikuga mõnitama ei tasu hakata, ja kui raha kokku ei saa, siis pole mingit õiget usku ka olla.,
Selle mosee ma veel ehitan valmis, kui võimalus tuleb, parem meie ise kui teiste, igavene jurakas, millest enam lahti ei saa. Kuhu sisse ei lasta. Sest uute seaduste kohaselt, Kuna neid miljard, PEAME varsti tegema nagunii mosee, sest see saab olema usuvabaduse algus, et peame lubama.... kuid selle mosee siis ehitavad mitte moslemid vaid liberaalid, kui viivitame... vaja aga ehitada meiemeelsete poolt, kes omasi rätikutes saatanaid üle mäe ära, ette tunnevad ja keda siis peame käskima hakkama käima "meie" mosees,
see keeruline maailma poliitika, kuid kuna meil naato küberkaitse ja EU küberkeskus juba Eestis on, ja maailma ühendav Skype tarkvara, maailma suurima Microsofti firma kaudu... siis miks mitte, ka Maailma Usundeid õigele teele sättiv org. Sest kui me seda ene ise ei tee, siis pärast juba raske... sest siinsed suts vist ikka ei julge aru saada, et me endiselt viisnurga Unionis elame, kelle viimanegi selgroo rist püütakse 2020neks murda,
see aastaarv muidu ebaoluline, sest nad jätkavad kuni võidavad, viiruselikult, kuid seeaeg uud kosmosejaamad ja paljud suured EU uued maailma teadusprojetid käivituvad, lisaks paljule muule.
Selle mosee ma veel ehitan valmis, kui võimalus tuleb, parem meie ise kui teiste, igavene jurakas, millest enam lahti ei saa. Kuhu sisse ei lasta. Sest uute seaduste kohaselt, Kuna neid miljard, PEAME varsti tegema nagunii mosee, sest see saab olema usuvabaduse algus, et peame lubama.... kuid selle mosee siis ehitavad mitte moslemid vaid liberaalid, kui viivitame... vaja aga ehitada meiemeelsete poolt, kes omasi rätikutes saatanaid üle mäe ära, ette tunnevad ja keda siis peame käskima hakkama käima "meie" mosees,
see keeruline maailma poliitika, kuid kuna meil naato küberkaitse ja EU küberkeskus juba Eestis on, ja maailma ühendav Skype tarkvara, maailma suurima Microsofti firma kaudu... siis miks mitte, ka Maailma Usundeid õigele teele sättiv org. Sest kui me seda ene ise ei tee, siis pärast juba raske... sest siinsed suts vist ikka ei julge aru saada, et me endiselt viisnurga Unionis elame, kelle viimanegi selgroo rist püütakse 2020neks murda,
see aastaarv muidu ebaoluline, sest nad jätkavad kuni võidavad, viiruselikult, kuid seeaeg uud kosmosejaamad ja paljud suured EU uued maailma teadusprojetid käivituvad, lisaks paljule muule.
18 May 2016 13:24
Margus Meigo replied to Hannes 'Kuu' Mölder's comment.
Tarmo Kruusimäe käisin siin Eesti mosees ka nendega rääkimas, meelde tuletamas, et Maarjamaal on oma pühad ja vanad arusaamad, ammu enne kui Jumalal plaan moslemid teha oli, et sealsete maade pervertsusi korrale kutsuda.
Lisaks soovitasin koralik kena puidust Mosee neil Eestisse ehitada, tehasemajas olemise asemel, et siis kui nad eksivad saab tule otsa panna ja pole püha maad rüüstatud järgmise kivijurakast monumendiga, samas aga siis on Allahile meelepärasest puidust maailma esimene mosee ehitatud, mis usuarusaamise ühendamisega tegelema hakkaks, Eesti vanahabemike ja seenemeeste juhatusel,
Eesti nõialikest naistest aga soovitasin eemale hoida, sest meil siin suurem osa on haldjad, nõiad ja muidu kena naise nahas tegelased kellest nad oma folklooris lugenud, ega me muidu siis poleks suutnud tillukesena, väliselt, siiani ales jääda.
Ega muidu maad siis Jeesuse ema järgi kutsuta.
Ega muidu ta siis EES-T-i maa poleks, ehk siis Maa, kes kõikidest Eest ja kõikide Eest!
Lisaks soovitasin koralik kena puidust Mosee neil Eestisse ehitada, tehasemajas olemise asemel, et siis kui nad eksivad saab tule otsa panna ja pole püha maad rüüstatud järgmise kivijurakast monumendiga, samas aga siis on Allahile meelepärasest puidust maailma esimene mosee ehitatud, mis usuarusaamise ühendamisega tegelema hakkaks, Eesti vanahabemike ja seenemeeste juhatusel,
Eesti nõialikest naistest aga soovitasin eemale hoida, sest meil siin suurem osa on haldjad, nõiad ja muidu kena naise nahas tegelased kellest nad oma folklooris lugenud, ega me muidu siis poleks suutnud tillukesena, väliselt, siiani ales jääda.
Ega muidu maad siis Jeesuse ema järgi kutsuta.
Ega muidu ta siis EES-T-i maa poleks, ehk siis Maa, kes kõikidest Eest ja kõikide Eest!
18 May 2016 13:17
Margus Meigo replied to Hannes 'Kuu' Mölder's comment.
Ükski päris moslem ei kanna lipsu
Ükski päris juut ei käi habemeta (kui ta just kryptojuut pole, siis ta aga on salaja...)
Ükski Eestlane ei salli pealiskaudset valelikku ebaõiglust
Ükski päris juut ei käi habemeta (kui ta just kryptojuut pole, siis ta aga on salaja...)
Ükski Eestlane ei salli pealiskaudset valelikku ebaõiglust
18 May 2016 13:09
Margus Meigo replied to Hannes 'Kuu' Mölder's comment.
excuse my frantsh, mul Eesti keele struktuur lonGab, kuid see eest on mõtted selged : )
et me peame vaatama, kes on päris ja kes manipuleeritud inimväärtustega, ja kes päris vaimsete väärtustega mis inimväärtusi toetab ja kes usub pealiskaudsesse usku nagu Luterlased kes ütlevad, et pole oluline mida siin teed, kas head või paha...
või moslemid kes samapalju päris usklikud kui EKRE päris iidse Eesti meelne, senikaua kui nad, NEED moslemid, usuvad, et nad Kristlaste vastu sõdima peaks nagu kommunistid
et me peame vaatama, kes on päris ja kes manipuleeritud inimväärtustega, ja kes päris vaimsete väärtustega mis inimväärtusi toetab ja kes usub pealiskaudsesse usku nagu Luterlased kes ütlevad, et pole oluline mida siin teed, kas head või paha...
või moslemid kes samapalju päris usklikud kui EKRE päris iidse Eesti meelne, senikaua kui nad, NEED moslemid, usuvad, et nad Kristlaste vastu sõdima peaks nagu kommunistid
18 May 2016 13:07
Margus Meigo replied to Hannes 'Kuu' Mölder's comment.
Khan holds the largest personal mandate of any politician in the history of the United Kingdom, and the third largest personal mandate in Europe.(along with the Presidents of France and Portugual). first actively affiliated Muslim to become mayor of a major Western capital.
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"a torch-bearer for the social democratic wing" of the Labour Party. The BBC describe Khan as being located on the party's soft left. In an article for Al Jazeera, the Marxist commentator Richard Seymour described Khan as a centrist.
Khan has stated that he received death threats for voting in favour of the same-sex marriage equality bill. There was a fatwa put out against him, in which an Imam declared him to be no longer a Muslim; he had been given police advice on protection.
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Khan also served as Chairman of the Fabian Society.
Khan is a Sunni Muslim.He regularly attends Al-Muzzammil Mosque in Tooting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
Today, the society functions primarily as a think tank and is one of 15 socialist societies affiliated with the Labour Party.
The Fabian Society founded the London School of Economics and Political Science in 1895 "for the betterment of society," now one of the leading institutions in the world, an incubator of influential politicians, economists, journalists, prime ministers and liberal billionaires
An explanatory note appearing on the title page of the group's first pamphlet declared:
For the right moment you must wait, as Fabius did most patiently, when warring against Hannibal, though many censured his delays; but when the time comes you must strike hard, as Fabius did, or your waiting will be in vain, and fruitless.
According to author Jon Perdue, "The logo of the Fabian Society, a tortoise, represented the group’s predilection for a slow, imperceptible transition to socialism, while its coat of arms, a 'wolf in sheep’s clothing', represented its preferred methodology for achieving its goal."
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"a torch-bearer for the social democratic wing" of the Labour Party. The BBC describe Khan as being located on the party's soft left. In an article for Al Jazeera, the Marxist commentator Richard Seymour described Khan as a centrist.
Khan has stated that he received death threats for voting in favour of the same-sex marriage equality bill. There was a fatwa put out against him, in which an Imam declared him to be no longer a Muslim; he had been given police advice on protection.
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Khan also served as Chairman of the Fabian Society.
Khan is a Sunni Muslim.He regularly attends Al-Muzzammil Mosque in Tooting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
Today, the society functions primarily as a think tank and is one of 15 socialist societies affiliated with the Labour Party.
The Fabian Society founded the London School of Economics and Political Science in 1895 "for the betterment of society," now one of the leading institutions in the world, an incubator of influential politicians, economists, journalists, prime ministers and liberal billionaires
An explanatory note appearing on the title page of the group's first pamphlet declared:
For the right moment you must wait, as Fabius did most patiently, when warring against Hannibal, though many censured his delays; but when the time comes you must strike hard, as Fabius did, or your waiting will be in vain, and fruitless.
According to author Jon Perdue, "The logo of the Fabian Society, a tortoise, represented the group’s predilection for a slow, imperceptible transition to socialism, while its coat of arms, a 'wolf in sheep’s clothing', represented its preferred methodology for achieving its goal."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
18 May 2016 13:04
Margus Meigo replied to Hannes 'Kuu' Mölder's comment.
(sest ta pole moslem vaid kommunistide pügatud, kuigi eetnilise tagatausta kadu huvitavate inimlikumate asjadega seotud vähemalt kui kommunistide ettevalmistatud kapitalistidest kuivad robotid, kes arvavad ennast muud asja ajavat, ajavad aga selle mõtteviisi alusel mis neile ANTI uskumiseks, mis oleks samamoodi iidsete rahavaste, looduse-naise ja puhtausu vastane. Ehk siis dollari viisnurk vs. päris viisnurk ainukesed valikud mida nad kokku leppisid, mis inimestele vallutatud maadel antakse, küll nad ajapikku ühele või teisele ideoloogiale alluvad. Vasakoolsed suuresplaanis siis need vastikud kes paremad parempoolsetel lasevad ehitada valmis maantee ja siis lasevad ennast läbi põletada ja kõrvetada ja siis nad ise vajuvad naturaalselt uuele võimule, rahva soovil, sest nad "inimlikumad" ja teavad millises järjekorras vaeseid steriliseerima hakata, kes iidsete kultuuridega seotud: nagu Peruulastega tehti just, peaaegu kogu Peruu 2.3m inka kultuuri järelejäänud vereliini ja rahalugude edasikandjad naised, sundsteriliseeriti alles hiljuti, sest nad olid vaesed. nagu kõik tevad on Liberaalid, keskvõim suurim sundsteriliseerimise pooldaja, sest nad inimkonda mehaaniliselt võtavad.)
Ehk sis
Ehk sis
18 May 2016 13:04
Margus Meigo replied to Hannes 'Kuu' Mölder's comment.
Tarmo Kruusimäe ahjah, jeerum, seal see asi ju juhtus. Mõtlesin alguses, et see nali oli ja ei võtnud tõsiselt.
Kusjuures iroonia on, et see moslem pärisusklikuna oleks parem kui enamus eelmisi... kuid jah, kahjuks tegu punaste käpaall olevaga... märksõma: BRICKS (se uus kommarite liit, mida nad oma EU liidu korvale ehitavad)
Kui just päris moslemid seda enda kasuks kuidagi keerata ei suuda.. ehk ikka suudavad... kuid nende välised asutused ka nii inflateeritud ja pimestatud viha ja segadusega, et nad unustama hakkanud pahade vaimude haaret ja mitmekesist võimu, lisaks, et nad peavad ikkagi kuuletuma ja alluma kristlastele ja juutidele, kui soovivad alles jääda
Kusjuures iroonia on, et see moslem pärisusklikuna oleks parem kui enamus eelmisi... kuid jah, kahjuks tegu punaste käpaall olevaga... märksõma: BRICKS (se uus kommarite liit, mida nad oma EU liidu korvale ehitavad)
Kui just päris moslemid seda enda kasuks kuidagi keerata ei suuda.. ehk ikka suudavad... kuid nende välised asutused ka nii inflateeritud ja pimestatud viha ja segadusega, et nad unustama hakkanud pahade vaimude haaret ja mitmekesist võimu, lisaks, et nad peavad ikkagi kuuletuma ja alluma kristlastele ja juutidele, kui soovivad alles jääda
18 May 2016 13:03
Margus Meigo replied to Murakas Marge's comment.
Juhan Tuha kas said tema kommentaarist aru või?
Sina ütlesid ju midai, kus polnud suurt sisu vastu asjale millega tema algatas,
ta vastas omakorda ja Sa nüüd vaikid, kus Sa oma sisu ja pädeva peaga oled?
Sina ütlesid ju midai, kus polnud suurt sisu vastu asjale millega tema algatas,
ta vastas omakorda ja Sa nüüd vaikid, kus Sa oma sisu ja pädeva peaga oled?
18 May 2016 12:33
Margus Meigo replied to Hannes 'Kuu' Mölder's comment.
Eestis sama seis mis inglismaal, kus kuningana vastane erakond on Londonis juhtival kohal ja ainukene alternatiiv on veelgi punasem, avalikult punane
18 May 2016 12:30
Margus Meigo replied to Hannes 'Kuu' Mölder's comment.
Tarmo Kruusimäe Karm! :D
18 May 2016 12:29
Margus Meigo replied to Janno Ka's comment.
Et nad siis ajavad õiget asja kaevu v?
Selgita ka Jan ??
Selgita ka Jan ??
18 May 2016 12:28
Margus Meigo replied to Tuha Juhan's comment.
st. mitte paberl ees, aga mõtetel ees laused, mida üks ja sama vaim kordab, seni kuni uskuma jäädakse
18 May 2016 12:27
Margus Meigo replied to Tuha Juhan's comment.
Tarmu räägib VÄGA selgelt, kannatlikult ja kenas Eestikeeles, igasugustest põhjustest, tõestusest ja olukordadest lühilausete ja selgete pikemate jutudega kuid ükskõik mida ta ütleb, sinna keegi kommeteerib:
"miks ühtegi argumenti pole, ainult hüüdlaused"
ma ei mõista, kas lugesite Tarmo postituste sisu mõttega läbi või on paberil ees, mida kommenteerima peab olenemata olukorrast mida ees öeldud juba on?
"miks ühtegi argumenti pole, ainult hüüdlaused"
ma ei mõista, kas lugesite Tarmo postituste sisu mõttega läbi või on paberil ees, mida kommenteerima peab olenemata olukorrast mida ees öeldud juba on?
18 May 2016 12:26
Margus Meigo replied to Hannes 'Kuu' Mölder's comment.
ja siis neeed kes nende hävitustega kaasa läheb, omadel oksi alt saagides, neid ei peaks kiitma ja väljavabandama parastades, et "ise te ei kuulanud..."
Vist hästi ei saada aru, mida 2020ndaks plaanitakse, kui selised pukki saavad
Vist hästi ei saada aru, mida 2020ndaks plaanitakse, kui selised pukki saavad
18 May 2016 12:20
Margus Meigo replied to Hannes 'Kuu' Mölder's comment.
jah, siis su oma lapsed panevad viisnurga või lipsu kaela ja ajavad oma vanemad siberirongile,
neid näiteid meil palju,
Valijad mingit umbluud on soovinud, selleasemel, et oma 10 000 vanuste juurtega tegeleda, arusaamisega, et me vaimse ja organiseeritud tuhandeteaastate pikkuse maise diktaatorite sõja vahepeal, ja ees neil kui konnasilm millest nad üle ei ei saa muuud moodi, kui meid ise ennast hävitama panna
neid näiteid meil palju,
Valijad mingit umbluud on soovinud, selleasemel, et oma 10 000 vanuste juurtega tegeleda, arusaamisega, et me vaimse ja organiseeritud tuhandeteaastate pikkuse maise diktaatorite sõja vahepeal, ja ees neil kui konnasilm millest nad üle ei ei saa muuud moodi, kui meid ise ennast hävitama panna
18 May 2016 12:18
Margus Meigo replied to Tajo Kadajas's comment.
KELLE õiget asja?
Ja ajavad, kuhu poole?
Nad võiks ju Eesti Maalaste ja pärimusrahvaste asja ajada HEA poole..
see mingi TradeMärk sloogan v, et "Ekre ajab õiget asja"
Mis see asi on siis ehk selgitaks, kuidas oma maa mahategemine, vaenlasemeelsusega litsilöömine ja ülbus, ebaviisakus, kuidas need asjad "õiiged" on?
Ja ajavad, kuhu poole?
Nad võiks ju Eesti Maalaste ja pärimusrahvaste asja ajada HEA poole..
see mingi TradeMärk sloogan v, et "Ekre ajab õiget asja"
Mis see asi on siis ehk selgitaks, kuidas oma maa mahategemine, vaenlasemeelsusega litsilöömine ja ülbus, ebaviisakus, kuidas need asjad "õiiged" on?
18 May 2016 12:15
Margus Meigo replied to Hannes 'Kuu' Mölder's comment.
Kas ekre on enamuse aja tagasõimanud vaenlasemeelseid parteisi (Keskerakond jms), või tegelenud meie oma valitsuse mustamise ja naruvääristamisega?
Valitsuse, kuhu tippu ise loodavad oma unistuses saada, lõhkudes praeguse valitsuse, kes läbi ime veel toimib sellise uuristamis epeale mis 20 aastat toiminud,
Nagu aru ei saada, et KÕIKIDE väikerahavaste likvideerimisega, need Greeka-Roomoa Kolmanda impeeriumi nisaimejad on 24/7 tegelenud
Valitsuse, kuhu tippu ise loodavad oma unistuses saada, lõhkudes praeguse valitsuse, kes läbi ime veel toimib sellise uuristamis epeale mis 20 aastat toiminud,
Nagu aru ei saada, et KÕIKIDE väikerahavaste likvideerimisega, need Greeka-Roomoa Kolmanda impeeriumi nisaimejad on 24/7 tegelenud
18 May 2016 12:08
Margus Meigo replied to Hannes 'Kuu' Mölder's comment.
Kle ära aja närvi, mis poritamisest sa siin jurad,?!
Ütle nüüd: Kas EKRE sai, KOGU 90+ % esimeste aastate eetriajast keskerakonnalt või ei saanud?
Ütle nüüd: Kas EKRE sai, KOGU 90+ % esimeste aastate eetriajast keskerakonnalt või ei saanud?
18 May 2016 12:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Kuid eks nagu komparteis olid Eestlased kes meid päästsid.. nii on ka EKREs Eestlasi, kes nende teod päevavalgele toob
18 May 2016 12:03
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Kui Sul on Keskerakond seljataga, ehk siis oled pädev igal alal:D
Ja eks Narva jms omavalitsustel kindlasti vajab jah rohkem võimu.
Mul oli shokeeriv arusaamine aasta tagasi, et sur osa EKRE oma liikmetest isegi ei tea ega ole nõus arusaama, et nad Keskerakonnaja Vene eriproject, eesti valitsuse lammutamiseks, mis Eesti vastased pukki paneks.
ja ega lipsuga mehi ei tasu üldse suures plaanis usaldada, need on need võimud kes kõiki pärimusrahvaid hävitavad, lipsud ja viisnurk käivad käsikäes.Seda vaja arusaada ka sinistel ja lõpetada selle sümboli kandmine, ja järgmiseks on vaja inimestel habet kasvatama hakata, et näha mis Puust keegi on, siis alles süvaeestlaste asjad hakkavad esile ilmuma
Ja eks Narva jms omavalitsustel kindlasti vajab jah rohkem võimu.
Mul oli shokeeriv arusaamine aasta tagasi, et sur osa EKRE oma liikmetest isegi ei tea ega ole nõus arusaama, et nad Keskerakonnaja Vene eriproject, eesti valitsuse lammutamiseks, mis Eesti vastased pukki paneks.
ja ega lipsuga mehi ei tasu üldse suures plaanis usaldada, need on need võimud kes kõiki pärimusrahvaid hävitavad, lipsud ja viisnurk käivad käsikäes.Seda vaja arusaada ka sinistel ja lõpetada selle sümboli kandmine, ja järgmiseks on vaja inimestel habet kasvatama hakata, et näha mis Puust keegi on, siis alles süvaeestlaste asjad hakkavad esile ilmuma
18 May 2016 12:01
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Keskerakond jagab seda uudist Tallina TVs kui järjekordset ekre vastast laimukampaaniat ja tagakiusamist võimurite poolt, ... kas tegelikult keegi raha omab on teisejärguline kui omasi kaitstakse... järgige järgige... täpselt selleks see uudis tehakse
18 May 2016 11:52
Margus Meigo replied to Brendan Sulisevvann's comment.
yes, but what You think about it?
Et mis sellest arvad, mis eelmistes kommentaarides on postitatud, pane mõned asjad vastuseks, milles omad mõnda arvamust
Et mis sellest arvad, mis eelmistes kommentaarides on postitatud, pane mõned asjad vastuseks, milles omad mõnda arvamust
17 May 2016 07:13
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
eks sõltuvusi oli enne ka Greeka-Rooma kultuuris palju, kuid eelkõige kuna ained on keelatud ja infot ei jaata milleks mis on.. ning shamaanid on on illegaalseks tehtud, seega jah.. robotiks urutud inimeste ainuke väljendus saada millegagi kontakti mis tundub reaalsem, on erinevad maaniad
17 May 2016 07:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Tänan Tänan : )
16 May 2016 13:59
Margus Meigo replied to Jako Krull's comment.
tuus!
16 May 2016 13:58
Margus Meigo replied to Tiia Tips's comment.
Mina olen miinimum standardiks,
16 May 2016 13:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siin blogist: http://www.stellashakti.com/#!Miks-ei-tohi-naistega-halvasti-käituda-isegi-neist-mitte-halvasti-mõelda/c1vwz/56d4f32d0cf2cacdc4208477
http://www.stellashakti.com/#!Miks-ei-tohi-naistega-halvasti-käituda-isegi-neist-mitte-halvasti-mõelda/c1vwz/56d4f32d0cf2cacdc4208477
16 May 2016 13:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(:
16 May 2016 13:34
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Kurb, et Eestimaa veel endiselt on sellises arengupeetuses, et taolisi artikleid on vaja kirjutada. Peaksime Maa ju olema, mis ülejäänud ilmale on Eeskujuks..
Kuid ikkagi, need kirjad on liiga pehmed ja laialivalguvalt pikad nende jaoks kellel see probleem on.. nad ei suudagi lugeda nii pikalt, seda loevad need kes ise haiget saavad, neil pole neid häireid..
jutt peaks olema sedasi: Kes Naisest halvasti või seksuaalselt ilma kindla loata mõtleb on Haige, vaimuhaigusega nakatunud sundravile või tapale minemist väärt värdjas,
Igasugune sellise inimese toetaja, kes teda korrale ei kutsu, on kas siis arg või piisavalt puudulik arusaamade osas kuidas maailm Loodud on.
Kõik mis Sa mõtled ja tunned saab nähtavaks ja on erinevates ajastustes ette näha, kui head mõtled siis see ei pea tooma head kuid kui väärastunult mõtled, siis võid kindel olla, et Su elu palju pikemalt hästi ei kesta kui ainult see ajastu siin, maksimaalselt.
Lisaks veel.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/stella-shakti/miks-ei-tohi-mehest-halvasti-rääkida-isegi-mõelda-mitte/453380331525245
Kuid ikkagi, need kirjad on liiga pehmed ja laialivalguvalt pikad nende jaoks kellel see probleem on.. nad ei suudagi lugeda nii pikalt, seda loevad need kes ise haiget saavad, neil pole neid häireid..
jutt peaks olema sedasi: Kes Naisest halvasti või seksuaalselt ilma kindla loata mõtleb on Haige, vaimuhaigusega nakatunud sundravile või tapale minemist väärt värdjas,
Igasugune sellise inimese toetaja, kes teda korrale ei kutsu, on kas siis arg või piisavalt puudulik arusaamade osas kuidas maailm Loodud on.
Kõik mis Sa mõtled ja tunned saab nähtavaks ja on erinevates ajastustes ette näha, kui head mõtled siis see ei pea tooma head kuid kui väärastunult mõtled, siis võid kindel olla, et Su elu palju pikemalt hästi ei kesta kui ainult see ajastu siin, maksimaalselt.
Lisaks veel.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/stella-shakti/miks-ei-tohi-mehest-halvasti-rääkida-isegi-mõelda-mitte/453380331525245
16 May 2016 13:27
Margus Meigo commented on Stella Shakti's note.
Lisa see link ka loo alla:
http://buduaar.ee/Article/article/miks-ei-tohi-naistega-halvasti-kaituda-neist-isegi-mitte-halvasti-moelda
Varsti hakkavad naise ka aru saama, et nad ei tohi ennast ega teisi naisi maha teha, siis juba arengu algus on näha...
http://buduaar.ee/Article/article/miks-ei-tohi-naistega-halvasti-kaituda-neist-isegi-mitte-halvasti-moelda
Varsti hakkavad naise ka aru saama, et nad ei tohi ennast ega teisi naisi maha teha, siis juba arengu algus on näha...
http://buduaar.ee/Article/article/miks-ei-tohi-naistega-halvasti-kaituda-neist-isegi-mitte-halvasti-moelda
16 May 2016 13:27
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Kas sellest ei piisa, et sellest midagi head ei sünni ?
16 May 2016 13:22
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Ma sain aru, et enam Kevadtormi taset ei ole Eestis, et see lõpetati aastaid tagasi ära... mis oli osas skaalas maailma tasemel..
16 May 2016 13:21
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
vaimurohke nägu küll ja salli kannavad ka tihti sedasi veidrikud.. kui lisada juurde veel muud detailid siis..
16 May 2016 13:19
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
ma alguses lugesin, et "onastamises" .. mõtlesin, et jälle mingi perv..
16 May 2016 13:19
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Not liberation, Liberalism,
the communist dream to turn women in to space products whoseenergy they can use for any direction and with who they can attack anyone...
the communist dream to turn women in to space products whoseenergy they can use for any direction and with who they can attack anyone...
16 May 2016 13:18
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's post.
et nagu filmima v?
16 May 2016 13:16
Margus Meigo replied to KJ Karits's comment.
tumedad naljad
16 May 2016 13:15
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
Strange indeed... oh these Poles.. and he was newer found.. hmm
16 May 2016 03:03
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
What about ritualistic dark homo rituals in USA army ? And systematic rape in there, to a man.
This should be more serious thing, as we the ones to take "correct way of living" to them.. innit..
This should be more serious thing, as we the ones to take "correct way of living" to them.. innit..
16 May 2016 02:59
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
For a women can be only the one with a utters, to fake it with surgery does not count. Soul is still a male or mixed one from another species, but NOT a women, if there is no utters, this is how simple it is,
everything else is just confusion, spiritual confusion, most likely curebale with shamans
Man and women are from another creation, these things can not just be mixed up so easy, at least we should try, .. be honest...
... and yes, it IS really hard for a boor child if ones soul road is mixed.. but it is NOT JUST A CHILDREN in a child body always, and everyone who say they are woman, is also not, always... (but we should still treat them like that... out of intelligence in a kind heart)
Perhaps will i change my views better over time.
I was also supporting homos before, in youth.. but after i saw the arrogant spiritual manipulation behind their master agenda... i changed my mind to more old school, to pre Hebrew times.
everything else is just confusion, spiritual confusion, most likely curebale with shamans
Man and women are from another creation, these things can not just be mixed up so easy, at least we should try, .. be honest...
... and yes, it IS really hard for a boor child if ones soul road is mixed.. but it is NOT JUST A CHILDREN in a child body always, and everyone who say they are woman, is also not, always... (but we should still treat them like that... out of intelligence in a kind heart)
Perhaps will i change my views better over time.
I was also supporting homos before, in youth.. but after i saw the arrogant spiritual manipulation behind their master agenda... i changed my mind to more old school, to pre Hebrew times.
16 May 2016 02:58
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
So anyone confused in head can go to girls bathroom and .. how will that effect the girls, does anyone ask from them, .. where is consideration of this..
Okey, girls in man bathroom if they feel so, yes, can be even good if they want to... but let boys to girl bathrooms who in today's world can just fake this for joke.. or after bad ACID trip.. or after systematic confusion that is put on from Roman Empire time.. to Earth people..
...
The few who feel weird, should know, they are weird, it is honest, good thing to do. and weird does not mean a bad necessarily, just less perfect then the others. That's honest thing, that's good thing to be honest.
Children are not impencilles that they not able to take some truth,
Federal law... there will be MASSIVE abuse of this Law, and massive confusion FOR GIRLS... who now HAVE TO have guy with them, in naked, perhaps erected guy in a shower if there is shared rooms, in worst case scenario
Okey, girls in man bathroom if they feel so, yes, can be even good if they want to... but let boys to girl bathrooms who in today's world can just fake this for joke.. or after bad ACID trip.. or after systematic confusion that is put on from Roman Empire time.. to Earth people..
...
The few who feel weird, should know, they are weird, it is honest, good thing to do. and weird does not mean a bad necessarily, just less perfect then the others. That's honest thing, that's good thing to be honest.
Children are not impencilles that they not able to take some truth,
Federal law... there will be MASSIVE abuse of this Law, and massive confusion FOR GIRLS... who now HAVE TO have guy with them, in naked, perhaps erected guy in a shower if there is shared rooms, in worst case scenario
16 May 2016 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More good news:
Brazilian developers has just launched a “One Dollar Board” Indiegogo campaign aimed at funding a tiny, open source microcontroller board so simple and inexpensive that it can be distributed as standard teaching materials to kids in schools the world over
8-bit CPU (see likely details below)
Memory — RAM unspecified; 8KB flash, expandable to 256KB
6x GPIO lines
1x USB port
2x LEDs
1x reset button
Expansion — “spaces” for addition of ESP8266 WiFi, 24C256 RAM, and TI L293 chips
Power — 5VDC (via USB connector)
4x mounting holes, “compatible with Arduíno UNO or similar”
Dimensions — 86 x 54mm
Based on comments on the project’s Indiegogo page, it seems likely that the board’s CPU is one of Atmel’s low-cost TinyAVR microcontrollers, which are available in 8-pin packages that resemble that seen on the board’s photos. For example, the ATtiny85 integrates an 8-bit RISC core, 8KB flash, 512B EEPROM, 512B SRAM, 6 GPIO, 2x 8-bit timer/counters, 4-channel 10-bit A/D, and a watchdog timer. The chip’s maximum CPU clock rate is 20MHz, and it’s capable of up to 1MIPS/MHz performance, according to Atmel’s product page. Atmel’s site shows pricing of around $0.77 per unit at 1K quantities, depending on the model.
http://hackerboards.com/tiny-1-dollar-stem-oriented-hacker-board-hits-indiegogo/
Brazilian developers has just launched a “One Dollar Board” Indiegogo campaign aimed at funding a tiny, open source microcontroller board so simple and inexpensive that it can be distributed as standard teaching materials to kids in schools the world over
8-bit CPU (see likely details below)
Memory — RAM unspecified; 8KB flash, expandable to 256KB
6x GPIO lines
1x USB port
2x LEDs
1x reset button
Expansion — “spaces” for addition of ESP8266 WiFi, 24C256 RAM, and TI L293 chips
Power — 5VDC (via USB connector)
4x mounting holes, “compatible with Arduíno UNO or similar”
Dimensions — 86 x 54mm
Based on comments on the project’s Indiegogo page, it seems likely that the board’s CPU is one of Atmel’s low-cost TinyAVR microcontrollers, which are available in 8-pin packages that resemble that seen on the board’s photos. For example, the ATtiny85 integrates an 8-bit RISC core, 8KB flash, 512B EEPROM, 512B SRAM, 6 GPIO, 2x 8-bit timer/counters, 4-channel 10-bit A/D, and a watchdog timer. The chip’s maximum CPU clock rate is 20MHz, and it’s capable of up to 1MIPS/MHz performance, according to Atmel’s product page. Atmel’s site shows pricing of around $0.77 per unit at 1K quantities, depending on the model.
http://hackerboards.com/tiny-1-dollar-stem-oriented-hacker-board-hits-indiegogo/
http://hackerboards.com/tiny-1-dollar-stem-oriented-hacker-board-hits-indiegogo/
16 May 2016 02:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"From a security perspective, the rate of change and bug fixes are also noteworthy, as Kroah-Hartman emphatically said almost all bugs can be a security issue. Because he doesn't always know which bug could be a security vulnerability, he said all patches are important.
"When we push out the fixes, you better take advantage of it," Kroah-Hartman said. "If you are not using a stable, long-term kernel, your machine is insecure."
Unfortunately, not every vendor that makes use of Linux keeps up with the rate of change. A case in point is Android phone vendors, which have a history of not patching for upsteam Linux kernel issues in a timely manner. For example, in March, Google issued an Android security update for a Linux kernel flaw that was first patched in 2015.
While Android can be slow at patching, Kroah-Hartman praised Google's Chromebook for rapid updates for Linux issues.
Overall, he noted that there is a need for "airbags" in Linux that can cushion the blow of security issues. To that end, there are multiple Linux efforts including SELinux (Security Enhanced Linux) that can help limit security risks. There is also a broader effort underway called the Kernel Self Protection Project that aims to help protect Linux. Items from the project are finding their way into the mainline of Linux to help minimize the impact of security bugs, according to Kroah-Hartman.
"If you aren't changing, you're dead," he said. "You have to change, you have to keep up, and that's why the kernel keeps changing.""
http://www.eweek.com/security/how-linux-kernel-development-impacts-security.html
"When we push out the fixes, you better take advantage of it," Kroah-Hartman said. "If you are not using a stable, long-term kernel, your machine is insecure."
Unfortunately, not every vendor that makes use of Linux keeps up with the rate of change. A case in point is Android phone vendors, which have a history of not patching for upsteam Linux kernel issues in a timely manner. For example, in March, Google issued an Android security update for a Linux kernel flaw that was first patched in 2015.
While Android can be slow at patching, Kroah-Hartman praised Google's Chromebook for rapid updates for Linux issues.
Overall, he noted that there is a need for "airbags" in Linux that can cushion the blow of security issues. To that end, there are multiple Linux efforts including SELinux (Security Enhanced Linux) that can help limit security risks. There is also a broader effort underway called the Kernel Self Protection Project that aims to help protect Linux. Items from the project are finding their way into the mainline of Linux to help minimize the impact of security bugs, according to Kroah-Hartman.
"If you aren't changing, you're dead," he said. "You have to change, you have to keep up, and that's why the kernel keeps changing.""
http://www.eweek.com/security/how-linux-kernel-development-impacts-security.html
http://www.eweek.com/security/how-linux-kernel-development-impacts-security.html
16 May 2016 02:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
how deep are the demons in the last singer anyways ?
16 May 2016 02:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
You sing me back or me to You, better?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfwN0X8YnWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfwN0X8YnWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfwN0X8YnWo
16 May 2016 02:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Maybe You will change... one day, before You pay! "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJkj3DgW8Y0&index=27&list=RDGRipheS8dxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJkj3DgW8Y0&index=27&list=RDGRipheS8dxE
16 May 2016 02:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
whou.. i already had beard 4 years ago.. totally forgot about it..
16 May 2016 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kallid kesköösed soovid mis luules telefonis lauldi mulle:
OTsi Naist, kuid kodumaist!
Temas on kõik
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201782783268032&set=rpd.1135161043&type=3&theater
OTsi Naist, kuid kodumaist!
Temas on kõik
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201782783268032&set=rpd.1135161043&type=3&theater
16 May 2016 02:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lyrics:
I must go on standing
You can't break that which isn't yours
I must go on standing
I'm not my own, it's not my choice
Be afraid of the lame
They'll inherit your legs
Be afraid of the old
They'll inherit your souls
Be afraid of the cold
They'll inherit your blood
Après moi, le déluge
After me comes the flood
I must go on standing
You can't break that which isn't-isn't yours-yours
I must go on standing
I'm not my own, it's not my choice
Be afraid of the lame
They'll inherit your legs
Be afraid of the old
They'll inherit your souls
Be afraid of the cold
They'll inherit your blood
Après moi, le déluge
After me comes the flood
Be afraid of the lame
They'll inherit your legs
Be afraid of the old
They'll inherit your souls
Be afraid of the cold
They'll inherit your blood
Après moi, le déluge
After me the flood
Fevral'. Dostat' chernil i plakat'!
Pisat' o fevrale navzryd,
Poka grohochuschaya slyakot'
Vesnoyu chernoyu gorit.
Fevral'. Dostat' chernil i plakat'!
Pisat' o fevrale navzryd,
Poka grohochuschaya slyakot'
Vesnoyu chernoyu gorit.
Be afraid of the lame
They'll inherit your legs
Be afraid of the old
They'll inherit your souls
Be afraid of the cold
They'll inherit your blood
Après moi, le déluge
After me comes the flood
I must go on standing
You can't break that which isn't yours
I must go on standing
I'm not my own, it's not my choice
I must go on stand stand ing dong
You can't can't break that that which isn't-isn't yours yours
I must go on stand stand ing dong
I'm not not my own own it's not not my choice
I must go on standing
You can't break that which isn't yours
I must go on standing
I'm not my own, it's not my choice
Be afraid of the lame
They'll inherit your legs
Be afraid of the old
They'll inherit your souls
Be afraid of the cold
They'll inherit your blood
Après moi, le déluge
After me comes the flood
I must go on standing
You can't break that which isn't-isn't yours-yours
I must go on standing
I'm not my own, it's not my choice
Be afraid of the lame
They'll inherit your legs
Be afraid of the old
They'll inherit your souls
Be afraid of the cold
They'll inherit your blood
Après moi, le déluge
After me comes the flood
Be afraid of the lame
They'll inherit your legs
Be afraid of the old
They'll inherit your souls
Be afraid of the cold
They'll inherit your blood
Après moi, le déluge
After me the flood
Fevral'. Dostat' chernil i plakat'!
Pisat' o fevrale navzryd,
Poka grohochuschaya slyakot'
Vesnoyu chernoyu gorit.
Fevral'. Dostat' chernil i plakat'!
Pisat' o fevrale navzryd,
Poka grohochuschaya slyakot'
Vesnoyu chernoyu gorit.
Be afraid of the lame
They'll inherit your legs
Be afraid of the old
They'll inherit your souls
Be afraid of the cold
They'll inherit your blood
Après moi, le déluge
After me comes the flood
I must go on standing
You can't break that which isn't yours
I must go on standing
I'm not my own, it's not my choice
I must go on stand stand ing dong
You can't can't break that that which isn't-isn't yours yours
I must go on stand stand ing dong
I'm not not my own own it's not not my choice
16 May 2016 02:16
Margus Meigo commented on LordWalter Anderson's post.
Group: 👑 We're Lebanese army friends. ( Respect & Honner )
The russians : )16 May 2016 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on LordWalter Anderson's post.
Group: 👑 We're Lebanese army friends. ( Respect & Honner )
For assistance, better in real life,16 May 2016 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on LordWalter Anderson's post.
Group: 👑 We're Lebanese army friends. ( Respect & Honner )
So Would You come to meet me ?16 May 2016 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on Jack Fox's post.
Oh this world..
16 May 2016 01:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Did You know, that female voice is talking that sentence?
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs%208%3A24&version=OJB;GNV;CJB
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs%208%3A24&version=OJB;GNV;CJB
16 May 2016 00:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Songs:
https://youtu.be/tHAhnJbGy9M?list=RDGRipheS8dxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHAhnJbGy9M&index=18&list=RDGRipheS8dxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otNyX_uMXYk&list=RDGRipheS8dxE&index=27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pxRXP3w-sQ&list=RDGRipheS8dxE&index=12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubPSHOS9ZgI&index=14&list=RDGRipheS8dxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrBlzfaWA-o&list=RDGRipheS8dxE&index=27 ..
https://youtu.be/tHAhnJbGy9M?list=RDGRipheS8dxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHAhnJbGy9M&index=18&list=RDGRipheS8dxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otNyX_uMXYk&list=RDGRipheS8dxE&index=27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pxRXP3w-sQ&list=RDGRipheS8dxE&index=12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubPSHOS9ZgI&index=14&list=RDGRipheS8dxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrBlzfaWA-o&list=RDGRipheS8dxE&index=27 ..
https://youtu.be/tHAhnJbGy9M?list=RDGRipheS8dxE
16 May 2016 00:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
After Israel launched a preemptive strike on Egypt to begin the Six-Day War, Syria joined the war and attacked against Israel as well. In the final days of the war, Israel turned its attention to Syria, capturing two-thirds of the Golan Heights in under 48 hours. The defeat caused a split between Jadid and Assad over what steps to take next
Disagreement developed between Jadid, who controlled the party apparatus, and Assad, who controlled the military. The 1970 retreat of Syrian forces sent to aid the PLO during the "Black September" hostilities with Jordan reflected this disagreement. The power struggle culminated in the November 1970 Syrian Corrective Revolution, a bloodless military overthrow that installed Hafez al-Assad as the strongman of the government
// good or bad? Taken away from a bad? //
In early 1976, Syria entered Lebanon, beginning the thirty-year Syrian military occupation. Over the following 15 years of civil war, Syria fought for control over Lebanon, and attempted to stop Israel from taking over in southern Lebanon, through extensive use of proxy militias. Syria then remained in Lebanon until 2005.
//(they say)// In the late 1970s, an Islamist uprising by the Muslim Brotherhood was aimed against the government. Islamists attacked civilians and off-duty military personnel, leading security forces to also kill civilians in retaliatory strikes. The uprising had reached its climax in the 1982 Hama massacre, when some 10,000 – 40,000 people were killed by regular Syrian Army troops.
In a major shift in relations with both other Arab states and the Western world, Syria participated in the US-led Gulf War against Saddam Hussein. Syria participated in the multilateral Madrid Conference of 1991, and during the 1990s engaged in negotiations with Israel. These negotiations failed, and there have been no further direct Syrian-Israeli talks since President Hafez al-Assad's meeting with then President Bill Clinton in Geneva in March 2000
Hafez al-Assad died on 10 June 2000. His son, Bashar al-Assad, was elected President in an election in which he ran unopposed. His election saw the birth of the Damascus Spring and hopes of reform, but by autumn 2001, the authorities had suppressed the movement, imprisoning some of its leading intellectuals. Instead, reforms have been limited to some market reforms
In 2005, Syria ended its occupation of Lebanon. On 6 September 2007, foreign jet fighters, suspected as Israeli, reportedly carried out Operation Orchard against a suspected nuclear reactor under construction by North Korean technicians.
The ongoing Syrian Civil War was inspired by the Arab Spring revolutions. It began in 2011 as a chain of peaceful protests, followed by a crackdown by the Syrian Army. In July 2011, army defectors declared the formation of the Free Syrian Army and began forming fighting units. The opposition is dominated by Sunni Muslims, whereas the leading government figures are Alawites. According to various sources, including the United Nations, up to 100,000 people had been killed by June 2013, including 11,000 children. To escape the violence, over 2.1 million Syrian refugees have fled to neighboring countries of Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, and Turkey. An estimated 450,000 Syrian Christians have fled their homes.[101] As the civil war has dragged on, there have been worries that the country could become fragmented and cease to function as a state
Syria is formally a unitary republic. The constitution adopted in 2012 effectively transformed Syria into a semi-presidential republic due to the constitutional right for the election of individuals who do not form part of the National Progressive Front. The President is Head of State and the Prime Minister is Head of Government. The legislature, the Peoples Council, is the body responsible for passing laws, approving government appropriations and debating policy. In the event of a vote of no confidence by a simple majority, the Prime Minister is required to tender the resignation of their government to the President.
The executive branch consists of the president, two vice presidents, the prime minister, and the Council of Ministers (cabinet). The constitution requires the president to be a Muslim but does not make Islam the state religion.
As a result of the ongoing civil war, various alternative governments were formed, including the Syrian Interim Government, the Democratic Union Party and localised regions governed by sharia law. Representatives of the Syrian Interim government were invited to take up Syria's seat at the Arab League on 28 March 2013 and was recognised as the "sole representative of the Syrian people" by several nations including the United States, United Kingdom and France.
Parliamentary elections were held on 13 April 2016 in the government-controlled areas of Syria, for all 250 seats of Syria's unicameral legislature, the Majlis al-Sha'ab, or the People's Council of Syria. Even before results had been announced, several nations, including Germany, the United States and the United Kingdom, have declared their refusal to accept the results, largely citing it "not representing the will of the Syrian people. However, representatives of the Russian Federation have voiced their support of this election's results.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria
Disagreement developed between Jadid, who controlled the party apparatus, and Assad, who controlled the military. The 1970 retreat of Syrian forces sent to aid the PLO during the "Black September" hostilities with Jordan reflected this disagreement. The power struggle culminated in the November 1970 Syrian Corrective Revolution, a bloodless military overthrow that installed Hafez al-Assad as the strongman of the government
// good or bad? Taken away from a bad? //
In early 1976, Syria entered Lebanon, beginning the thirty-year Syrian military occupation. Over the following 15 years of civil war, Syria fought for control over Lebanon, and attempted to stop Israel from taking over in southern Lebanon, through extensive use of proxy militias. Syria then remained in Lebanon until 2005.
//(they say)// In the late 1970s, an Islamist uprising by the Muslim Brotherhood was aimed against the government. Islamists attacked civilians and off-duty military personnel, leading security forces to also kill civilians in retaliatory strikes. The uprising had reached its climax in the 1982 Hama massacre, when some 10,000 – 40,000 people were killed by regular Syrian Army troops.
In a major shift in relations with both other Arab states and the Western world, Syria participated in the US-led Gulf War against Saddam Hussein. Syria participated in the multilateral Madrid Conference of 1991, and during the 1990s engaged in negotiations with Israel. These negotiations failed, and there have been no further direct Syrian-Israeli talks since President Hafez al-Assad's meeting with then President Bill Clinton in Geneva in March 2000
Hafez al-Assad died on 10 June 2000. His son, Bashar al-Assad, was elected President in an election in which he ran unopposed. His election saw the birth of the Damascus Spring and hopes of reform, but by autumn 2001, the authorities had suppressed the movement, imprisoning some of its leading intellectuals. Instead, reforms have been limited to some market reforms
In 2005, Syria ended its occupation of Lebanon. On 6 September 2007, foreign jet fighters, suspected as Israeli, reportedly carried out Operation Orchard against a suspected nuclear reactor under construction by North Korean technicians.
The ongoing Syrian Civil War was inspired by the Arab Spring revolutions. It began in 2011 as a chain of peaceful protests, followed by a crackdown by the Syrian Army. In July 2011, army defectors declared the formation of the Free Syrian Army and began forming fighting units. The opposition is dominated by Sunni Muslims, whereas the leading government figures are Alawites. According to various sources, including the United Nations, up to 100,000 people had been killed by June 2013, including 11,000 children. To escape the violence, over 2.1 million Syrian refugees have fled to neighboring countries of Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, and Turkey. An estimated 450,000 Syrian Christians have fled their homes.[101] As the civil war has dragged on, there have been worries that the country could become fragmented and cease to function as a state
Syria is formally a unitary republic. The constitution adopted in 2012 effectively transformed Syria into a semi-presidential republic due to the constitutional right for the election of individuals who do not form part of the National Progressive Front. The President is Head of State and the Prime Minister is Head of Government. The legislature, the Peoples Council, is the body responsible for passing laws, approving government appropriations and debating policy. In the event of a vote of no confidence by a simple majority, the Prime Minister is required to tender the resignation of their government to the President.
The executive branch consists of the president, two vice presidents, the prime minister, and the Council of Ministers (cabinet). The constitution requires the president to be a Muslim but does not make Islam the state religion.
As a result of the ongoing civil war, various alternative governments were formed, including the Syrian Interim Government, the Democratic Union Party and localised regions governed by sharia law. Representatives of the Syrian Interim government were invited to take up Syria's seat at the Arab League on 28 March 2013 and was recognised as the "sole representative of the Syrian people" by several nations including the United States, United Kingdom and France.
Parliamentary elections were held on 13 April 2016 in the government-controlled areas of Syria, for all 250 seats of Syria's unicameral legislature, the Majlis al-Sha'ab, or the People's Council of Syria. Even before results had been announced, several nations, including Germany, the United States and the United Kingdom, have declared their refusal to accept the results, largely citing it "not representing the will of the Syrian people. However, representatives of the Russian Federation have voiced their support of this election's results.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria
16 May 2016 00:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
From 1864, Tanzimat reforms were applied on Ottoman Syria, carving out the provinces (vilayets) of Aleppo, Zor, Beirut and Damascus Vilayet; Mutasarrifate of Mount Lebanon was created, as well, and soon after the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem was given a separate status
// Ottomans olid siis osaliselt nagu Rooma, pättide, sõdalaste communistide robotite meelsed, usu vastased pigem //
During World War I, the Ottoman Empire entered the conflict on the side of Germany and the Austro-Hungarian Empire. It ultimately suffered defeat and loss of control of the entire Near East to the British Empire and French Empire. During the conflict, genocide against indigenous Christian peoples was carried out by the Ottomans and their allies in the form of the Armenian Genocide and Assyrian Genocide, of which Deir ez-Zor, in Ottoman Syria, was the final destination of these death marches
In the midst of World War I, two Allied diplomats (Frenchman François Georges-Picot and Briton Mark Sykes) secretly agreed on the post-war division of the Ottoman Empire into respective zones of influence in the Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916. Initially, the two territories were separated by a border that ran in an almost straight line from Jordan to Iran.
However, the discovery of oil in the region of Mosul just before the end of the war led to yet another negotiation with France in 1918 to cede this region to 'Zone B', or the British zone of influence. This border was later recognized internationally when Syria became a League of Nations mandate in 1920 and has not changed to date.
In 1920, a short-lived independent Kingdom of Syria was established under Faisal I of the Hashemite family. However, his rule over Syria ended after only a few months, following the Battle of Maysalun. French troops occupied Syria later that year after the San Remo conference proposed that the League of Nations put Syria under a French mandate. General Gouraud had according to his secretary de Caix two options: "Either build a Syrian nation that does not exist... by smoothing the rifts which still divide it"
or "cultivate and maintain all the phenomena, which require our abitration that these divisions give".
De Caix added "I must say only the second option interests me". This is what Gouraud did.
Syria and France negotiated a treaty of independence in September 1936, and Hashim al-Atassi was the first president to be elected under the first incarnation of the modern republic of Syria. However, the treaty never came into force because the French Legislature refused to ratify it. With the fall of France in 1940 during World War II, Syria came under the control of Vichy France until the British and Free French occupied the country in the Syria-Lebanon campaign in July 1941
Continuing pressure from Syrian nationalists and the British forced the French to evacuate their troops in April 1946, leaving the country in the hands of a republican government that had been formed during the mandate
Upheaval dominated Syrian politics from independence through the late 1960s. In May 1948, Syrian forces invaded Palestine, together with other Arab states, and immediately attacked Jewish settlements. Their president Shukri al-Quwwatli instructed his troops in the front, “to destroy the Zionists". The Invasion purpose was prevention of the establishment of the State of Israel
The weakness of Parliamentary institutions and the mismanagement of the economy led to unrest and the influence of Nasserism and other ideologies. There was fertile ground for various Arab nationalist, Syrian nationalist, and socialist movements, which represented disaffected elements of society. Notably included were religious minorities, who demanded radical reform.
In November 1956, as a direct result of the Suez Crisis, Syria signed a pact with the Soviet Union. This gave a foothold for Communist influence within the government in exchange for military equipment. Turkey then became worried about this increase in the strength of Syrian military technology, as it seemed feasible that Syria might attempt to retake İskenderun. Only heated debates in the United Nations lessened the threat of war
// Ottomans olid siis osaliselt nagu Rooma, pättide, sõdalaste communistide robotite meelsed, usu vastased pigem //
During World War I, the Ottoman Empire entered the conflict on the side of Germany and the Austro-Hungarian Empire. It ultimately suffered defeat and loss of control of the entire Near East to the British Empire and French Empire. During the conflict, genocide against indigenous Christian peoples was carried out by the Ottomans and their allies in the form of the Armenian Genocide and Assyrian Genocide, of which Deir ez-Zor, in Ottoman Syria, was the final destination of these death marches
In the midst of World War I, two Allied diplomats (Frenchman François Georges-Picot and Briton Mark Sykes) secretly agreed on the post-war division of the Ottoman Empire into respective zones of influence in the Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916. Initially, the two territories were separated by a border that ran in an almost straight line from Jordan to Iran.
However, the discovery of oil in the region of Mosul just before the end of the war led to yet another negotiation with France in 1918 to cede this region to 'Zone B', or the British zone of influence. This border was later recognized internationally when Syria became a League of Nations mandate in 1920 and has not changed to date.
In 1920, a short-lived independent Kingdom of Syria was established under Faisal I of the Hashemite family. However, his rule over Syria ended after only a few months, following the Battle of Maysalun. French troops occupied Syria later that year after the San Remo conference proposed that the League of Nations put Syria under a French mandate. General Gouraud had according to his secretary de Caix two options: "Either build a Syrian nation that does not exist... by smoothing the rifts which still divide it"
or "cultivate and maintain all the phenomena, which require our abitration that these divisions give".
De Caix added "I must say only the second option interests me". This is what Gouraud did.
Syria and France negotiated a treaty of independence in September 1936, and Hashim al-Atassi was the first president to be elected under the first incarnation of the modern republic of Syria. However, the treaty never came into force because the French Legislature refused to ratify it. With the fall of France in 1940 during World War II, Syria came under the control of Vichy France until the British and Free French occupied the country in the Syria-Lebanon campaign in July 1941
Continuing pressure from Syrian nationalists and the British forced the French to evacuate their troops in April 1946, leaving the country in the hands of a republican government that had been formed during the mandate
Upheaval dominated Syrian politics from independence through the late 1960s. In May 1948, Syrian forces invaded Palestine, together with other Arab states, and immediately attacked Jewish settlements. Their president Shukri al-Quwwatli instructed his troops in the front, “to destroy the Zionists". The Invasion purpose was prevention of the establishment of the State of Israel
The weakness of Parliamentary institutions and the mismanagement of the economy led to unrest and the influence of Nasserism and other ideologies. There was fertile ground for various Arab nationalist, Syrian nationalist, and socialist movements, which represented disaffected elements of society. Notably included were religious minorities, who demanded radical reform.
In November 1956, as a direct result of the Suez Crisis, Syria signed a pact with the Soviet Union. This gave a foothold for Communist influence within the government in exchange for military equipment. Turkey then became worried about this increase in the strength of Syrian military technology, as it seemed feasible that Syria might attempt to retake İskenderun. Only heated debates in the United Nations lessened the threat of war
16 May 2016 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Control of Syria eventually passed from the Romans to the Byzantines, with the split in the Roman Empire // (the "Third Rome") //
By AD 640, Syria was conquered by the Arab Rashidun army led by Khalid ibn al-Walid. In the mid-7th century, the Umayyad dynasty, then rulers of the empire, placed the capital of the empire in Damascus. The country's power declined during later Umayyad rule; due mainly to totalitarianism, corruption and the resulting revolutions. The Umayyad dynasty was then overthrown in 750 by the Abbasid dynasty, which moved the capital of empire to Baghdad.
Arabic – made official under Umayyad rule – became the dominant language, replacing Greek and Aramaic of the Byzantine era. In 887, the Egypt-based Tulunids annexed Syria from the Abbasids, and were later replaced by once the Egypt-based Ikhshidids and still later by the Hamdanids originating in Aleppo founded by Sayf al-Dawla.
Sections of Syria were held by French, English, Italian and German overlords between 1098 and 1189 AD during the Crusades and were known collectively as the Crusader states among which the primary one in Syria was the Principality of Antioch. The coastal mountainous region was also occupied in part by the Nizari Ismailis, the so-called Assassins, who had intermittent confrontations and truces with the Crusader States. Later in history when "the Nizaris faced renewed Frankish hostilities, they received timely assistance from the Ayyubids."
After a century of Seljuk rule, Syria was largely conquered (1175–1185) by the Kurdish warlord Saladin, founder of the Ayyubid dynasty of Egypt.
In 1400, the Muslim Turco-Mongol conqueror Timur Lenk (Tamurlane) invaded Syria, sacked Aleppo and captured Damascus after defeating the Mamluk army. The city's inhabitants were massacred, except for the artisans, who were deported to Samarkand Timur-Lenk also conducted specific massacres of the Aramean and Assyrian Christian populations, greatly reducing their numbers.
In 1516, the Ottoman Empire invaded the Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt, conquering Syria, and incorporating it into its empire. The Ottoman system was not burdensome to Syrians because the Turks respected Arabic as the language of the Quran, and accepted the mantle of defenders of the faith. Damascus was made the major entrepot for Mecca, and as such it acquired a holy character to Muslims, because of the beneficial results of the countless pilgrims who passed through on the hajj, the pilgrimage to Mecca.
// hetkeks päris hea juba väliselt, kuid .. //
Ottoman administration followed a system that led to peaceful coexistence. Each ethno-religious minority – Arab Shia Muslim, Arab Sunni Muslim, Aramean-Syriac Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Maronite Christians, Assyrian Christians, Armenians, Kurds and Jews – constituted a millet. The religious heads of each community administered all personal status laws and performed certain civil functions as well. In 1831, Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt renounced his loyalty to the Empire and overran Ottoman Syria, capturing Damascus. His short-term rule over the domain attempted to change the demographics and social structure of the region: he brought thousands of Egyptian villagers to populate the plains of Southern Syria, rebuilt Jaffa and settled it with veteran Egyptian soldiers aiming to turn it into a regional capital, and he crushed peasant and Druze rebellions and deported non-loyal tribesmen. By 1840, however, he had to surrender the area back to the Ottomans
By AD 640, Syria was conquered by the Arab Rashidun army led by Khalid ibn al-Walid. In the mid-7th century, the Umayyad dynasty, then rulers of the empire, placed the capital of the empire in Damascus. The country's power declined during later Umayyad rule; due mainly to totalitarianism, corruption and the resulting revolutions. The Umayyad dynasty was then overthrown in 750 by the Abbasid dynasty, which moved the capital of empire to Baghdad.
Arabic – made official under Umayyad rule – became the dominant language, replacing Greek and Aramaic of the Byzantine era. In 887, the Egypt-based Tulunids annexed Syria from the Abbasids, and were later replaced by once the Egypt-based Ikhshidids and still later by the Hamdanids originating in Aleppo founded by Sayf al-Dawla.
Sections of Syria were held by French, English, Italian and German overlords between 1098 and 1189 AD during the Crusades and were known collectively as the Crusader states among which the primary one in Syria was the Principality of Antioch. The coastal mountainous region was also occupied in part by the Nizari Ismailis, the so-called Assassins, who had intermittent confrontations and truces with the Crusader States. Later in history when "the Nizaris faced renewed Frankish hostilities, they received timely assistance from the Ayyubids."
After a century of Seljuk rule, Syria was largely conquered (1175–1185) by the Kurdish warlord Saladin, founder of the Ayyubid dynasty of Egypt.
In 1400, the Muslim Turco-Mongol conqueror Timur Lenk (Tamurlane) invaded Syria, sacked Aleppo and captured Damascus after defeating the Mamluk army. The city's inhabitants were massacred, except for the artisans, who were deported to Samarkand Timur-Lenk also conducted specific massacres of the Aramean and Assyrian Christian populations, greatly reducing their numbers.
In 1516, the Ottoman Empire invaded the Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt, conquering Syria, and incorporating it into its empire. The Ottoman system was not burdensome to Syrians because the Turks respected Arabic as the language of the Quran, and accepted the mantle of defenders of the faith. Damascus was made the major entrepot for Mecca, and as such it acquired a holy character to Muslims, because of the beneficial results of the countless pilgrims who passed through on the hajj, the pilgrimage to Mecca.
// hetkeks päris hea juba väliselt, kuid .. //
Ottoman administration followed a system that led to peaceful coexistence. Each ethno-religious minority – Arab Shia Muslim, Arab Sunni Muslim, Aramean-Syriac Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Maronite Christians, Assyrian Christians, Armenians, Kurds and Jews – constituted a millet. The religious heads of each community administered all personal status laws and performed certain civil functions as well. In 1831, Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt renounced his loyalty to the Empire and overran Ottoman Syria, capturing Damascus. His short-term rule over the domain attempted to change the demographics and social structure of the region: he brought thousands of Egyptian villagers to populate the plains of Southern Syria, rebuilt Jaffa and settled it with veteran Egyptian soldiers aiming to turn it into a regional capital, and he crushed peasant and Druze rebellions and deported non-loyal tribesmen. By 1840, however, he had to surrender the area back to the Ottomans
16 May 2016 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So what can be solutions for this ? This is just short notes about some actions in this country, by not far all the conflicts, just some hilights:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_opposition#Other_groups_affiliated_with_Syrian_opposition
Today, A country of fertile plains, high mountains, and deserts, Syria is home to diverse ethnic and religious groups, including Syrian Arabs, Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians, Kurds, Circassians, Mandeans and Turks. Religious groups include Sunnis, Christians, Alawites, Druze, Mandeans, Shiites, Salafis, and Yazidis. Sunni Arabs make up the largest population group in Syria
Before
Scholars believe the language of Ebla to be among the oldest known written Semitic languages after Akkadian, Recent classifications of the Eblaite language have shown that it was an East Semitic language, closely related to the Akkadian language.
Ebla was weakened by a long war with Mari, and the whole of Syria became part of the Mesopotamian Akkadian Empire after Sargon of Akkad and his grandson Naram-Sin's conquests ended Eblan domination over Syria in the first half of the 23rd century BC
"Around the 14th century BC, various Semitic peoples appeared in the area, such as the semi-nomadic Suteans who came into an unsuccessful conflict with Babylonia to the east, and the West Semitic speaking Arameans who subsumed the earlier Amorites. They too were subjugated by Assyria and the Hittites for centuries. The Egyptians fought the Hittites for control over western Syria"
"Assyrian domination ended after the Assyrians greatly weakened themselves in a series of brutal internal civil wars, followed by an attacking coalition of their former subject peoples; the Medes, Babylonians, Chaldeans, Persians, Scythians and Cimmerians. During the fall of Assyria, the Scythians ravaged and plundered much of Syria. The last stand of the Assyrian army was at Carchemish in northern Syria in 605 BC."
The Assyrian Empire was followed by the Neo-Babylonian Empire (605 BC – 539 BC). During this period, Syria became a battle ground between Babylonia and another former Assyrian colony, that of Egypt. The Babylonians, like their Assyrian relations, were victorious over Egypt.
The Achaemenid Persians took Syria from Babylonia as part of their hegemony of Southwest Asia in 539 BC. The Persians, having spent four centuries under Assyrian rule, retained Imperial Aramaic as diplomatic language in the Achaemenid Empire (539 BC- 330 BC), and also the Assyrian name of the satrapy of Aram/Syria Eber-Nari.
Syria was conquered by the Greek Macedonian Empire, ruled by Alexander the Great circa 330 BC, and consequently became Coele-Syria province of the Greek Seleucid Empire (323 BC – 64 BC).
It was the Greeks who introduced the name "Syria" to the region. Originally an Indo-European corruption of "Assyria" in northern Mesopotamia, the Greeks used this term to describe not only Assyria itself but also the lands to the west which had for centuries been under Assyrian dominion. Thus in the Greco-Roman world both the Arameans of Syria and the Assyrians of Mesopotamia to the east were referred to as "Syrians" or "Syriacs", despite these being distinct peoples in their own right, a confusion which would continue into the modern world.
Eventually parts of southern Seleucid Syria were taken by Judean Hasmoneans upon the slow disintegration of the Hellenistic Empire.
Syria briefly came under Armenian control from 83 BC, with the conquests of Tigranes the Great, who was welcomed as a savior from the Seleucids and Romans by its people. The Armenians retained control of Syria for two decades before being driven out by the Romans.
Roman theatre of Bosra in the province of Arabia, present-day Syria
Pompey the Great of the Roman Empire, who captured Antioch in 64 BC, turning Syria into a Roman province.
Palmyra, a rich and sometimes powerful native Aramaic-speaking kingdom arose in northern Syria in the 2nd century; the Palmyrene established a trade network that made the city one of the richest in the Roman empire
Syriac Christianity had taken hold as the major religion, although others still followed Judaism, Mithraism, Manicheanism, Greco-Roman Religion, Canaanite Religion and Mesopotamian Religion. Syria's large and prosperous population made Syria one of the most important of the Roman and Byzantine provinces, particularly during the 2nd and 3rd centuries (AD) // roman empire, russian communist technological ideology //
The largely Aramaic-speaking population of Syria during the heyday of the Byzantine empire was probably not exceeded again until the 19th century. Prior to the Arab Islamic Conquest in the 7th century AD, the bulk of the population were Arameans, but Syria was also home to Greek and Roman ruling classes
The Roman Emperor Alexander Severus, who was emperor from 222 to 235, was an Aramean from Syria. His cousin Elagabalus, who was emperor from 218 to 222, was also from Syria and his family held hereditary rights to the high priesthood of the Aramean sun god El-Gabal at Emesa (modern Homs) in Syria. Another Roman emperor who was a Syrian was Philip the Arab (Marcus Julius Philippus), emperor from 244 to 249.
Syria is significant in the history of Christianity; Saulus of Tarsus, better known as the Apostle Paul, was converted on the Road to Damascus and emerged as a significant figure in the Christian Church at Antioch in ancient Syria, from which he left on many of his missionary journeys. (Acts 9:1–43
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_opposition#Other_groups_affiliated_with_Syrian_opposition
Today, A country of fertile plains, high mountains, and deserts, Syria is home to diverse ethnic and religious groups, including Syrian Arabs, Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians, Kurds, Circassians, Mandeans and Turks. Religious groups include Sunnis, Christians, Alawites, Druze, Mandeans, Shiites, Salafis, and Yazidis. Sunni Arabs make up the largest population group in Syria
Before
Scholars believe the language of Ebla to be among the oldest known written Semitic languages after Akkadian, Recent classifications of the Eblaite language have shown that it was an East Semitic language, closely related to the Akkadian language.
Ebla was weakened by a long war with Mari, and the whole of Syria became part of the Mesopotamian Akkadian Empire after Sargon of Akkad and his grandson Naram-Sin's conquests ended Eblan domination over Syria in the first half of the 23rd century BC
"Around the 14th century BC, various Semitic peoples appeared in the area, such as the semi-nomadic Suteans who came into an unsuccessful conflict with Babylonia to the east, and the West Semitic speaking Arameans who subsumed the earlier Amorites. They too were subjugated by Assyria and the Hittites for centuries. The Egyptians fought the Hittites for control over western Syria"
"Assyrian domination ended after the Assyrians greatly weakened themselves in a series of brutal internal civil wars, followed by an attacking coalition of their former subject peoples; the Medes, Babylonians, Chaldeans, Persians, Scythians and Cimmerians. During the fall of Assyria, the Scythians ravaged and plundered much of Syria. The last stand of the Assyrian army was at Carchemish in northern Syria in 605 BC."
The Assyrian Empire was followed by the Neo-Babylonian Empire (605 BC – 539 BC). During this period, Syria became a battle ground between Babylonia and another former Assyrian colony, that of Egypt. The Babylonians, like their Assyrian relations, were victorious over Egypt.
The Achaemenid Persians took Syria from Babylonia as part of their hegemony of Southwest Asia in 539 BC. The Persians, having spent four centuries under Assyrian rule, retained Imperial Aramaic as diplomatic language in the Achaemenid Empire (539 BC- 330 BC), and also the Assyrian name of the satrapy of Aram/Syria Eber-Nari.
Syria was conquered by the Greek Macedonian Empire, ruled by Alexander the Great circa 330 BC, and consequently became Coele-Syria province of the Greek Seleucid Empire (323 BC – 64 BC).
It was the Greeks who introduced the name "Syria" to the region. Originally an Indo-European corruption of "Assyria" in northern Mesopotamia, the Greeks used this term to describe not only Assyria itself but also the lands to the west which had for centuries been under Assyrian dominion. Thus in the Greco-Roman world both the Arameans of Syria and the Assyrians of Mesopotamia to the east were referred to as "Syrians" or "Syriacs", despite these being distinct peoples in their own right, a confusion which would continue into the modern world.
Eventually parts of southern Seleucid Syria were taken by Judean Hasmoneans upon the slow disintegration of the Hellenistic Empire.
Syria briefly came under Armenian control from 83 BC, with the conquests of Tigranes the Great, who was welcomed as a savior from the Seleucids and Romans by its people. The Armenians retained control of Syria for two decades before being driven out by the Romans.
Roman theatre of Bosra in the province of Arabia, present-day Syria
Pompey the Great of the Roman Empire, who captured Antioch in 64 BC, turning Syria into a Roman province.
Palmyra, a rich and sometimes powerful native Aramaic-speaking kingdom arose in northern Syria in the 2nd century; the Palmyrene established a trade network that made the city one of the richest in the Roman empire
Syriac Christianity had taken hold as the major religion, although others still followed Judaism, Mithraism, Manicheanism, Greco-Roman Religion, Canaanite Religion and Mesopotamian Religion. Syria's large and prosperous population made Syria one of the most important of the Roman and Byzantine provinces, particularly during the 2nd and 3rd centuries (AD) // roman empire, russian communist technological ideology //
The largely Aramaic-speaking population of Syria during the heyday of the Byzantine empire was probably not exceeded again until the 19th century. Prior to the Arab Islamic Conquest in the 7th century AD, the bulk of the population were Arameans, but Syria was also home to Greek and Roman ruling classes
The Roman Emperor Alexander Severus, who was emperor from 222 to 235, was an Aramean from Syria. His cousin Elagabalus, who was emperor from 218 to 222, was also from Syria and his family held hereditary rights to the high priesthood of the Aramean sun god El-Gabal at Emesa (modern Homs) in Syria. Another Roman emperor who was a Syrian was Philip the Arab (Marcus Julius Philippus), emperor from 244 to 249.
Syria is significant in the history of Christianity; Saulus of Tarsus, better known as the Apostle Paul, was converted on the Road to Damascus and emerged as a significant figure in the Christian Church at Antioch in ancient Syria, from which he left on many of his missionary journeys. (Acts 9:1–43
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_opposition#Other_groups_affiliated_with_Syrian_opposition
16 May 2016 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Also important updates always in talk pages like:
(just sample, example)
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"It's important to see that Islamist rebel factions aren't opposed to Al Nusra Front (JN), and sometimes fight altogether against FSA groups. I call them Islamist rebel factions : the term of "moderate" islamists is way too controversial IMO. This appellation isn't shared by some factions such as Russia nor Iran nor Syrian Government nor Syrian Democratic Forces... (example : https://www.rt.com/op-edge/319309-syria-moderate-rebels-isis/ ). Some western medias make critics of this appellation too : http://www.atlantico.fr/decryptage/apres-islamistes-moderes-voici-maintenant-djihadistes-moderes-benoit-rayski-1680579.html
The article shows that JN (Al Nusra front) is in a different category from many other islamist factions. But in fact, JN is a part of the Army of Conquest(Jaish al-Fatah) with other islamist groups, such as Ahrar ash-Sham, Jund al-Aqsa, Muslim Brotherhood of Syria, Sham Legion, Jaysh al-Sunna, Jaysh al-Nasr, Imam Bukhari Jamaat, Liwa al-Haqq. Knowing that, how can Sham Legion, Army of Mujahedeen, Ajnad al-Sham Islamic Union be classified as a part of the Free Syrian Army ? This is a wrong classification in 2016.
Also, the name of "Syrian Kurdistan and allies" category should be changed in Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), which is the name of the coalition created in 2015. In fact, the former FSA group, Jaysh al-Thuwar, is now a component of the Syrian Democratic Forces, with about 3000 fighters. Al-Sanadid Forces, with about 9000 fighters, is a member of the SDF too
This is fairly important to categorize correctly so that the readers of this article can better-understand how the different factions are related to each-other."
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(just sample, example)
________________________
"It's important to see that Islamist rebel factions aren't opposed to Al Nusra Front (JN), and sometimes fight altogether against FSA groups. I call them Islamist rebel factions : the term of "moderate" islamists is way too controversial IMO. This appellation isn't shared by some factions such as Russia nor Iran nor Syrian Government nor Syrian Democratic Forces... (example : https://www.rt.com/op-edge/319309-syria-moderate-rebels-isis/ ). Some western medias make critics of this appellation too : http://www.atlantico.fr/decryptage/apres-islamistes-moderes-voici-maintenant-djihadistes-moderes-benoit-rayski-1680579.html
The article shows that JN (Al Nusra front) is in a different category from many other islamist factions. But in fact, JN is a part of the Army of Conquest(Jaish al-Fatah) with other islamist groups, such as Ahrar ash-Sham, Jund al-Aqsa, Muslim Brotherhood of Syria, Sham Legion, Jaysh al-Sunna, Jaysh al-Nasr, Imam Bukhari Jamaat, Liwa al-Haqq. Knowing that, how can Sham Legion, Army of Mujahedeen, Ajnad al-Sham Islamic Union be classified as a part of the Free Syrian Army ? This is a wrong classification in 2016.
Also, the name of "Syrian Kurdistan and allies" category should be changed in Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), which is the name of the coalition created in 2015. In fact, the former FSA group, Jaysh al-Thuwar, is now a component of the Syrian Democratic Forces, with about 3000 fighters. Al-Sanadid Forces, with about 9000 fighters, is a member of the SDF too
This is fairly important to categorize correctly so that the readers of this article can better-understand how the different factions are related to each-other."
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https://www.rt.com/op-edge/319309-syria-moderate-rebels-isis/
16 May 2016 00:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
THe syrian thing:
Main belligerents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_civil_war
Wiki Portal: Syrian Arab Republic and allies / Syrian opposition / International anti-ISIL coalition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Syrian_Civil_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_Syria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_intervention_against_ISIL
Main belligerents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_civil_war
Wiki Portal: Syrian Arab Republic and allies / Syrian opposition / International anti-ISIL coalition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Syrian_Civil_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_Syria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_intervention_against_ISIL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_civil_war
16 May 2016 00:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
My old doc, finished not.. about different way of thinkins of various breed of humans, mainly natural relgious human vs electronic one, in our view:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pnuy1IMjLIYjZhCyWeZDOpkUpwALl1-5WNLaJioqj3M/edit?usp=sharing
while the Greek mind seeks the holiness of beauty.
The Hebrew mind thinks of the Beauty of holiness.
This full test will help to investigate in future, the few versions of humans, of their mind workings, and if they are infected or interbreeded by alien ideology and recles short understandings.
It is possible to help to co-operate with the other side, but with these who agree them self to be on the wrong, un-earth side of the mind.
If One rebels, then one can be turned against their own parents even, easy.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pnuy1IMjLIYjZhCyWeZDOpkUpwALl1-5WNLaJioqj3M/edit?usp=sharing
while the Greek mind seeks the holiness of beauty.
The Hebrew mind thinks of the Beauty of holiness.
This full test will help to investigate in future, the few versions of humans, of their mind workings, and if they are infected or interbreeded by alien ideology and recles short understandings.
It is possible to help to co-operate with the other side, but with these who agree them self to be on the wrong, un-earth side of the mind.
If One rebels, then one can be turned against their own parents even, easy.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pnuy1IMjLIYjZhCyWeZDOpkUpwALl1-5WNLaJioqj3M/edit?usp=sharing
16 May 2016 00:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Compare allies: "Syrian Opposition al-Qaeda network and allies"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War#Overall_conflict_.282011.E2.80.93present.29
And all that made only so few arguments and archive pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War/Archive_1#Non-free_image_use
(compared to my few posts ago about cannabis smoking Sküütians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Scythians/Archive_5 4 3 2 1)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War#Overall_conflict_.282011.E2.80.93present.29
And all that made only so few arguments and archive pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War/Archive_1#Non-free_image_use
(compared to my few posts ago about cannabis smoking Sküütians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Scythians/Archive_5 4 3 2 1)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War#Overall_conflict_.282011.E2.80.93present.29
16 May 2016 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_sex
"The night hag is a generic name for a fantastical creature from the folklore of various peoples which is used to explain the phenomenon of sleep paralysis. A common description is that a person feels a presence of a supernatural malevolent being which immobilizes the person as if sitting on his/her chest.[33] Various cultures have various names for this phenomenon and/or supernatural character.
The Nightmare is a 2015 documentary that discusses the causes of sleep paralysis as seen through extensive interviews with participants, and the experiences are re-enacted by professional actors. In synopsis, it proposes that such cultural memes as alien abduction, the near death experience and shadow people can, in many cases, be attributed to sleep paralysis. "
FOLK knowledge:
Some say that the Hmong who died were killed by their own beliefs in the spiritual world, otherwise known as, “Nocturnal Pressing Spirit Attacks”. In Indonesia it is called digeuton, which translates to “pressed on” in English. In China it is called bei gui ya which translates to “held by a ghost” in English. The Dutch call the presence a nachtmerrie, the night-mare. The “mare” comes from the German word, mahr, which is a female supernatural being who “lies on people`s chests, suffocating them”. This phenomenon is well known among the Hmong people of Laos, who ascribe these deaths to a malign spirit, dab tsuam (pronounced "da cho"), said to take the form of a jealous woman. Hmong men may even go to sleep dressed as women so as to avoid the attentions of this spirit.[citation needed]
During the 1970`s and 1980`s when an outbreak of this syndrome began, many of the Southeast Asian`s were not able to worship properly due to the guerrilla war against the government of Laos with the United States. When the Hmong people do not worship properly, do not perform religious ritual properly or forget to sacrifice, the ancestor spirits or the village spirits do not protect them, thus allowing the evil spirit to reach them. These attacks induce a nightmare that leads to sleep paralysis when the victim is conscious and experiencing pressure on the chest. It is also common to have a REM state that is out of sequence where there is a mix of brain states that are normally held separate. After the war, the United States government scattered the Hmong across the country to 53 different cities. Once these nightmare visitations began, a shaman was recommended for psychic protection from the spirits of their sleep. However, scattered across 53 different cities, these victims had no access to any or the right shaman to protect them from this syndrome.
Hmong people believed that rejecting the role of becoming a shaman, they are taken into the spirit world.
Bangungot is depicted in the Philippines as a mythological creature called batibat or bangungot. This hag-like creature sits on the victim's face or chest so as to immobilize and suffocate him. When this occurs, the victim usually experiences paralysis. It's said that one should bite their tongue and wiggle their toes to try to get out of this paralysis or they may die from suffocation.
And see how many spesific names the this human generation has generated for various versions of killings:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filicide#See_also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_sex
"The night hag is a generic name for a fantastical creature from the folklore of various peoples which is used to explain the phenomenon of sleep paralysis. A common description is that a person feels a presence of a supernatural malevolent being which immobilizes the person as if sitting on his/her chest.[33] Various cultures have various names for this phenomenon and/or supernatural character.
The Nightmare is a 2015 documentary that discusses the causes of sleep paralysis as seen through extensive interviews with participants, and the experiences are re-enacted by professional actors. In synopsis, it proposes that such cultural memes as alien abduction, the near death experience and shadow people can, in many cases, be attributed to sleep paralysis. "
FOLK knowledge:
Some say that the Hmong who died were killed by their own beliefs in the spiritual world, otherwise known as, “Nocturnal Pressing Spirit Attacks”. In Indonesia it is called digeuton, which translates to “pressed on” in English. In China it is called bei gui ya which translates to “held by a ghost” in English. The Dutch call the presence a nachtmerrie, the night-mare. The “mare” comes from the German word, mahr, which is a female supernatural being who “lies on people`s chests, suffocating them”. This phenomenon is well known among the Hmong people of Laos, who ascribe these deaths to a malign spirit, dab tsuam (pronounced "da cho"), said to take the form of a jealous woman. Hmong men may even go to sleep dressed as women so as to avoid the attentions of this spirit.[citation needed]
During the 1970`s and 1980`s when an outbreak of this syndrome began, many of the Southeast Asian`s were not able to worship properly due to the guerrilla war against the government of Laos with the United States. When the Hmong people do not worship properly, do not perform religious ritual properly or forget to sacrifice, the ancestor spirits or the village spirits do not protect them, thus allowing the evil spirit to reach them. These attacks induce a nightmare that leads to sleep paralysis when the victim is conscious and experiencing pressure on the chest. It is also common to have a REM state that is out of sequence where there is a mix of brain states that are normally held separate. After the war, the United States government scattered the Hmong across the country to 53 different cities. Once these nightmare visitations began, a shaman was recommended for psychic protection from the spirits of their sleep. However, scattered across 53 different cities, these victims had no access to any or the right shaman to protect them from this syndrome.
Hmong people believed that rejecting the role of becoming a shaman, they are taken into the spirit world.
Bangungot is depicted in the Philippines as a mythological creature called batibat or bangungot. This hag-like creature sits on the victim's face or chest so as to immobilize and suffocate him. When this occurs, the victim usually experiences paralysis. It's said that one should bite their tongue and wiggle their toes to try to get out of this paralysis or they may die from suffocation.
And see how many spesific names the this human generation has generated for various versions of killings:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filicide#See_also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia
16 May 2016 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Southeast Asian immigrants, who most, were fleeing the Vietnam War, suffered the most from this syndrome, marking Southeast Asia as the area containing the most people who suffer from this fatal syndrome. However, there are other Asian populations that were affected, such as, Filipinos and Chinese immigrants in the Philippines, Japanese in Japan and natives of Guam in the United States and Guam. Nonetheless, these particular immigrants who suffered from this syndrome were about 33 years old and seemingly healthy and all was man, but one of the Laotian Hmong refugees. The condition appears to affect primarily young Hmong men from Laos (median age 33) and northeastern Thailand (where the population are mainly of Laotian descent)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_unexpected_death_syndrome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brugada_syndrome (BrS) sudden unexplained death syndrome (SUDS), also known as sudden adult death syndrome (SADS) average age of death is 41
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/09/the-dark-side-of-the-placebo-effect-when-intense-belief-kills/245065/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mare_(folklore)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_a_Dwarf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_unexpected_death_syndrome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brugada_syndrome (BrS) sudden unexplained death syndrome (SUDS), also known as sudden adult death syndrome (SADS) average age of death is 41
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/09/the-dark-side-of-the-placebo-effect-when-intense-belief-kills/245065/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mare_(folklore)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_a_Dwarf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_unexpected_death_syndrome
16 May 2016 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"SIDS was the third leading cause of death in children less than one year old in the United States in 2011"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_infant_death_syndrome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_perversion#Violence_against_children
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_infant_death_syndrome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_perversion#Violence_against_children
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_infant_death_syndrome
16 May 2016 00:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_farming
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetus_Farming_Prohibition_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetus_Farming_Prohibition_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_farming
16 May 2016 00:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So Monaco, Bermuda, Czech, Macau, Malta, Belarus, Estonia, Taiwan, Slovakia, Poland, Guam, .. and 90 other countries are with higher rates then USA.. this was strange..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate
16 May 2016 00:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#Peru
"between 1995 and 2000, 331,600 women were sterilized, while 25,590 men submitted to vasectomies"
400,000 indigenous people were sterilized during the 1990s. Documents proved that President Fujimori was informed, each month, of the number of sterilizations done, by his former Ministers of Health, Eduardo Yong Motta (1994–96), Marino Costa Bauer (1996–1999) and Alejandro Aguinaga (1999–2000). A study by sociologist Giulia Tamayo, Nada Personal (in English: Nothing Personal), showed that doctors were required to meet quotas
"In 1996 there were, according to official statistics, 81,762 tubal ligations performed on women, with a peak being reached the following year, with 109,689 ligatures, then only 25,995 in 1998" Only...
Taking in to acount, avarage 3 children per woman, then how many millions of people there was liminated ? Numbers bigger then in Syria active war innit... but how much have You heard about Peru?
Remeber the Peru part in this Holy Montain Movie? This action has been long lasting... as this people history go back to so long, they suposetly remember times, when womens did not have periods and there was no moon... so suspected conspiracy is that as they have superior loving heart that keeps sharing folk storyes and remeber them well, then this perhaps ...
You know, if other forces want to keep their version of history only..
and this is just one of the many ways, the eliminators work... and they will laught this projects in to people face later, telling, "you cried and worried about this and that... but you purposelly ignored seriousness of this.. so what kind of good hearted human you htink yu are, you two faced... arrogant.. humanrace... do as we tell you or... "
and ofcourse, they needed to test various serilizations to see effects of this all..
"between 1995 and 2000, 331,600 women were sterilized, while 25,590 men submitted to vasectomies"
400,000 indigenous people were sterilized during the 1990s. Documents proved that President Fujimori was informed, each month, of the number of sterilizations done, by his former Ministers of Health, Eduardo Yong Motta (1994–96), Marino Costa Bauer (1996–1999) and Alejandro Aguinaga (1999–2000). A study by sociologist Giulia Tamayo, Nada Personal (in English: Nothing Personal), showed that doctors were required to meet quotas
"In 1996 there were, according to official statistics, 81,762 tubal ligations performed on women, with a peak being reached the following year, with 109,689 ligatures, then only 25,995 in 1998" Only...
Taking in to acount, avarage 3 children per woman, then how many millions of people there was liminated ? Numbers bigger then in Syria active war innit... but how much have You heard about Peru?
Remeber the Peru part in this Holy Montain Movie? This action has been long lasting... as this people history go back to so long, they suposetly remember times, when womens did not have periods and there was no moon... so suspected conspiracy is that as they have superior loving heart that keeps sharing folk storyes and remeber them well, then this perhaps ...
You know, if other forces want to keep their version of history only..
and this is just one of the many ways, the eliminators work... and they will laught this projects in to people face later, telling, "you cried and worried about this and that... but you purposelly ignored seriousness of this.. so what kind of good hearted human you htink yu are, you two faced... arrogant.. humanrace... do as we tell you or... "
and ofcourse, they needed to test various serilizations to see effects of this all..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#Peru
16 May 2016 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide#Greece_and_Rome (Judaism permits if Child dangers life of Mother or case of rape)
But You must ask, who organized this tec. really, was they Nature Relgious minded? Rather not, rather liberal scientific, capitalistic but communistic (as capitalism is inside communism, inisde Roman Empire a system..)
But You must ask, who organized this tec. really, was they Nature Relgious minded? Rather not, rather liberal scientific, capitalistic but communistic (as capitalism is inside communism, inisde Roman Empire a system..)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide#Greece_and_Rome
16 May 2016 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://rsnr.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/64/4/379
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilisation_in_Sweden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-selective_abortion#Estimates_of_missing_women
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilisation_in_Sweden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-selective_abortion#Estimates_of_missing_women
16 May 2016 00:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Google translation:
"In political terms, Nils von Hofsten a convinced liberal "
There is something repulsive in the mentally deficient people may bring children into the world "
" In our country are the conditions for successful research exceptionally favorable; the population in many areas comparatively pure bred, and our church books contain more complete information than in any other country. We take on a prominent rasbiolog and genealogist, lecturer Herman Lundborg in Uppsala, who performed pioneering and globally prized surveys, which provide a guarantee to an under his leadership following institutions would be an honor for Swedish research "
" Eugenics, looking for funds to stem the threatening degeneration, has itself no means an easy task set before. A radical means is that by the permanent insulation or other measures suspend the most harmful elements of reproduction; when it comes highly substandard and certainly hereditary, not only personally degenerate individuals, such measures are undoubtedly justified."
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_von_Hofsten
"In political terms, Nils von Hofsten a convinced liberal "
There is something repulsive in the mentally deficient people may bring children into the world "
" In our country are the conditions for successful research exceptionally favorable; the population in many areas comparatively pure bred, and our church books contain more complete information than in any other country. We take on a prominent rasbiolog and genealogist, lecturer Herman Lundborg in Uppsala, who performed pioneering and globally prized surveys, which provide a guarantee to an under his leadership following institutions would be an honor for Swedish research "
" Eugenics, looking for funds to stem the threatening degeneration, has itself no means an easy task set before. A radical means is that by the permanent insulation or other measures suspend the most harmful elements of reproduction; when it comes highly substandard and certainly hereditary, not only personally degenerate individuals, such measures are undoubtedly justified."
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_von_Hofsten
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_von_Hofsten
16 May 2016 00:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Lundborg was extremely negative towards the Jewish people, and strongly involved with the ideology of racial hygiene. In the beginning of the 20th century, the idea that eugenics could somehow improve society in general strongly evolved. In 1922, Sweden became the first country in the world to establish a eugenic governmental agency and started mayor research"
"This research later became one of the foundations under a eugenic program of the Swedish government, which consisted of both voluntary and involuntary sterilization of persons with negative genetic characteristics. The program was started in 1935 and would last until 1975"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Bernhard_Lundborg
"This research later became one of the foundations under a eugenic program of the Swedish government, which consisted of both voluntary and involuntary sterilization of persons with negative genetic characteristics. The program was started in 1935 and would last until 1975"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Bernhard_Lundborg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Bernhard_Lundborg
16 May 2016 00:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// They the ones who convinced Germany to do what they did, including anti-jewish behavor. With support of Lutherian (anti-jew Marthin Luther). Also planned if failed, to blame it all upfront on Germany to eliminate potential uprise of Europe nation heritage, in short. IN behind the scenes support with soviet scientists. Who desired to final takeower of Europe. And as we know, Roman Empire todays one of the expression: Russia, was founded by Rurik, who was of the Sweds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rurik https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rurik_dynasty //
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rurik
16 May 2016 00:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" In 1918 the society travelled around Sweden with an exhibit called “Folktyputställning” ("Exhibition about types of people"). The same year Frithiof Lennmalm, the headmaster of Karolinska Institutet proposed that the Nobel Foundation finance an institute for race biology. The Nobel committee for medicine voted unanimously in favour of the proposal. The staff of Karolinska Institutet voted against it with a very thin margin (9 against 8). Instead it was proposed that the Swedish state found and finance such an institute."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statens_institut_f%C3%B6r_rasbiologi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statens_institut_f%C3%B6r_rasbiologi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statens_institut_f%C3%B6r_rasbiologi
16 May 2016 00:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"A few nations, notably Sweden and the Canadian province of Alberta, maintained large-scale eugenics programs, including forced sterilization of mentally handicapped individuals, as well as other practices, until the 1970s"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_eugenics
"Statens institut för rasbiologi (SIFR, Swedish: The State Institute for Racial Biology) was a Swedish governmental research institute founded in 1922 with the stated purpose of studying eugenics and human genetics. It was located in Uppsala and as a governmental agency, it was the world’s first of its kind"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_eugenics
"Statens institut för rasbiologi (SIFR, Swedish: The State Institute for Racial Biology) was a Swedish governmental research institute founded in 1922 with the stated purpose of studying eugenics and human genetics. It was located in Uppsala and as a governmental agency, it was the world’s first of its kind"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_eugenics
16 May 2016 00:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
//sometimes, there was just different paramenters and future potential, what kind of sterilizaton to use, communist vision was to cure out "anti-communist gene's" from a future all people, with various methods (communist, liberals, socialists, "democrats") //
// "the Russia", Buzentine, Roman Thinrd empire, that is in most part idological around the world, is strongly fallowing Roman and Greek ideas, as this is only philosophy they accept, as it is not relgious. Greek-ROmans pre faters also try to imbreed their own race that would obay to their order but would be not submitted to the call of heart and relgious soul call or love. Mehanically making their own supperrace using women and man genetics. (in relgious science: IN SPIRIT, THESE BEINGS LET THEM SELF MAKE A NEAR HUMAN BODY AND USE THIS TO PRODUCE FORCEFULLY THEIR OFFSPRING THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY SUBMIT TO THEIRRULE LATER ON...but as they lack of knowladge of full life, they not jet still sure them self, how it works or works not, many times. )//
The philosophy was most famously expounded by Plato, who believed human reproduction should be monitored and controlled by the state. However, Plato understood this form of government control would not be readily accepted, and proposed the truth be concealed from the public via a fixed lottery. Mates, in Plato's Republic, would be chosen by a "marriage number" in which the quality of the individual would be quantitatively analyzed, and persons of high numbers would be allowed to procreate with other persons of high numbers. In theory, this would lead to predictable results and the improvement of the human race. However, Plato acknowledged the failure of the "marriage number" since "gold soul" persons could still produce "bronze soul" children. Plato's ideas may have been one of the earliest attempts to mathematically analyze genetic inheritance, which was later improved by the development of Mendelian genetics and the mapping of the human genome.
Other ancient civilizations, such as Rome, Athens and Sparta, practiced infanticide through exposure and execution as a form of phenotypic selection. In Sparta, newborns were inspected by the city's elders, who decided the fate of the infant.
Trials for babies included bathing them in wine and exposing them to the elements. To Sparta, this would ensure only the strongest survived and procreated.
The Twelve Tables of Roman Law, established early in the formation of the Roman Republic, stated in the fourth table that deformed children must be put to death. In addition, patriarchs in Roman society were given the right to "discard" infants at their discretion. This was often done by drowning undesired newborns in the Tiber River. Commenting on the Roman practice of eugenics, the philosopher Seneca wrote that: "We put down mad dogs; we kill the wild, untamed ox; we use the knife on sick sheep to stop their infecting the flock; we destroy abnormal offspring at birth; children, too, if they are born weak or deformed, we drown. Yet this is not the work of anger, but of reason - to separate the sound from the worthless".[11] The practice of open infanticide in the Roman Empire did not subside until its Christianization.
// "the Russia", Buzentine, Roman Thinrd empire, that is in most part idological around the world, is strongly fallowing Roman and Greek ideas, as this is only philosophy they accept, as it is not relgious. Greek-ROmans pre faters also try to imbreed their own race that would obay to their order but would be not submitted to the call of heart and relgious soul call or love. Mehanically making their own supperrace using women and man genetics. (in relgious science: IN SPIRIT, THESE BEINGS LET THEM SELF MAKE A NEAR HUMAN BODY AND USE THIS TO PRODUCE FORCEFULLY THEIR OFFSPRING THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY SUBMIT TO THEIRRULE LATER ON...but as they lack of knowladge of full life, they not jet still sure them self, how it works or works not, many times. )//
The philosophy was most famously expounded by Plato, who believed human reproduction should be monitored and controlled by the state. However, Plato understood this form of government control would not be readily accepted, and proposed the truth be concealed from the public via a fixed lottery. Mates, in Plato's Republic, would be chosen by a "marriage number" in which the quality of the individual would be quantitatively analyzed, and persons of high numbers would be allowed to procreate with other persons of high numbers. In theory, this would lead to predictable results and the improvement of the human race. However, Plato acknowledged the failure of the "marriage number" since "gold soul" persons could still produce "bronze soul" children. Plato's ideas may have been one of the earliest attempts to mathematically analyze genetic inheritance, which was later improved by the development of Mendelian genetics and the mapping of the human genome.
Other ancient civilizations, such as Rome, Athens and Sparta, practiced infanticide through exposure and execution as a form of phenotypic selection. In Sparta, newborns were inspected by the city's elders, who decided the fate of the infant.
Trials for babies included bathing them in wine and exposing them to the elements. To Sparta, this would ensure only the strongest survived and procreated.
The Twelve Tables of Roman Law, established early in the formation of the Roman Republic, stated in the fourth table that deformed children must be put to death. In addition, patriarchs in Roman society were given the right to "discard" infants at their discretion. This was often done by drowning undesired newborns in the Tiber River. Commenting on the Roman practice of eugenics, the philosopher Seneca wrote that: "We put down mad dogs; we kill the wild, untamed ox; we use the knife on sick sheep to stop their infecting the flock; we destroy abnormal offspring at birth; children, too, if they are born weak or deformed, we drown. Yet this is not the work of anger, but of reason - to separate the sound from the worthless".[11] The practice of open infanticide in the Roman Empire did not subside until its Christianization.
16 May 2016 00:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Houston Stewart Chamberlain, "The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century", 1911":
"In this conflict it is not merely a question of the national secular State in opposition to the universal ecclesiastical State; wherever we meet universalism there anti-nationalism and anti-individualism are its necessary correlatives. Nor does it need to be conscious universalism, it is sufficient that an idea aims at something absolute, something limitless. Thus, for example, all consistently reasoned Socialism leads to the absolute State. To call Socialists point-blank “a party dangerous to the State,“ as is usually done, is only to give rise to one of those confusions of which our age is so fond. Certainly Socialism signifies a danger to the individual national States, as it does, on the whole, to the principle of individualism, but it is no danger to the idea of the State. It honestly admits its internationalism; its character is revealed, however, not in disintegration, but in a wonderfully developed organisation, copied, as it were, from a machine. In both points it betrays its affinity to Rome. In fact, it represents the same Catholic idea as the Church, although it grasps it by the other end. For that reason, too, there is no room in its system for individual freedom and diversity, for personal originality.
Ce qui lie tous les socialistes, c'est la haine de la liberté, ... as Flaubert says. * He who tears down the outward barriers, puts up inner ones. Socialism is imperialism in disguise; it will hardly be realisable without hierarchy and Primacy; in the Catholic Church it finds a pattern of socialistic, anti-individualistic organisation."
"In this conflict it is not merely a question of the national secular State in opposition to the universal ecclesiastical State; wherever we meet universalism there anti-nationalism and anti-individualism are its necessary correlatives. Nor does it need to be conscious universalism, it is sufficient that an idea aims at something absolute, something limitless. Thus, for example, all consistently reasoned Socialism leads to the absolute State. To call Socialists point-blank “a party dangerous to the State,“ as is usually done, is only to give rise to one of those confusions of which our age is so fond. Certainly Socialism signifies a danger to the individual national States, as it does, on the whole, to the principle of individualism, but it is no danger to the idea of the State. It honestly admits its internationalism; its character is revealed, however, not in disintegration, but in a wonderfully developed organisation, copied, as it were, from a machine. In both points it betrays its affinity to Rome. In fact, it represents the same Catholic idea as the Church, although it grasps it by the other end. For that reason, too, there is no room in its system for individual freedom and diversity, for personal originality.
Ce qui lie tous les socialistes, c'est la haine de la liberté, ... as Flaubert says. * He who tears down the outward barriers, puts up inner ones. Socialism is imperialism in disguise; it will hardly be realisable without hierarchy and Primacy; in the Catholic Church it finds a pattern of socialistic, anti-individualistic organisation."
16 May 2016 00:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
changed public Logo.. read why.. :
"The Fabian Society founded the London School of Economics and Political Science in 1895 "for the betterment of society," now one of the leading institutions in the world, an incubator of influential politicians, economists, journalists, prime ministers and liberal billionaires"
"Today, the society functions primarily as a think tank and is one of 15 socialist societies affiliated with the Labour Party, Foundation for European Progressive Studies"
An explanatory note appearing on the title page of the group's first pamphlet declared:
"For the right moment you must wait, as Fabius did most patiently, when warring against Hannibal, though many censured his delays; but when the time comes you must strike hard, as Fabius did, or your waiting will be in vain, and fruitless."
According to author Jon Perdue, "The logo of the Fabian Society, a tortoise, represented the group’s predilection for a slow, imperceptible transition to socialism, while its coat of arms, a 'wolf in sheep’s clothing', represented its preferred methodology for achieving its goal." The wolf in sheep’s clothing symbolism was later abandoned, due to its obvious negative connotations.
Its nine founding members were Frank Podmore, Edward R. Pease, William Clarke, Hubert Bland, Percival Chubb, Frederick Keddell, H. H. Champion, Edith Nesbit, and Rosamund Dale Owen. Havelock Ellis is sometimes also mentioned as a tenth founding member.
In the early 1900s Fabian Society members advocated the ideal of a scientifically planned society and supported eugenics by way of sterilisation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Statesman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Socialism
"The Fabian Society founded the London School of Economics and Political Science in 1895 "for the betterment of society," now one of the leading institutions in the world, an incubator of influential politicians, economists, journalists, prime ministers and liberal billionaires"
"Today, the society functions primarily as a think tank and is one of 15 socialist societies affiliated with the Labour Party, Foundation for European Progressive Studies"
An explanatory note appearing on the title page of the group's first pamphlet declared:
"For the right moment you must wait, as Fabius did most patiently, when warring against Hannibal, though many censured his delays; but when the time comes you must strike hard, as Fabius did, or your waiting will be in vain, and fruitless."
According to author Jon Perdue, "The logo of the Fabian Society, a tortoise, represented the group’s predilection for a slow, imperceptible transition to socialism, while its coat of arms, a 'wolf in sheep’s clothing', represented its preferred methodology for achieving its goal." The wolf in sheep’s clothing symbolism was later abandoned, due to its obvious negative connotations.
Its nine founding members were Frank Podmore, Edward R. Pease, William Clarke, Hubert Bland, Percival Chubb, Frederick Keddell, H. H. Champion, Edith Nesbit, and Rosamund Dale Owen. Havelock Ellis is sometimes also mentioned as a tenth founding member.
In the early 1900s Fabian Society members advocated the ideal of a scientifically planned society and supported eugenics by way of sterilisation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Statesman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Socialism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
16 May 2016 00:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Extra material:
"A fifth column is any group of people who undermine a larger group—such as a nation or a besieged city—from within, usually in favor of an enemy group or nation. The activities of a fifth column can be overt or clandestine. Forces gathered in secret can mobilize openly to assist an external attack. This term is also extended to organized actions by military personnel. Clandestine fifth column activities can involve acts of sabotage, disinformation, or espionage executed within defense lines by secret sympathizers with an external force."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column
"A fifth column is any group of people who undermine a larger group—such as a nation or a besieged city—from within, usually in favor of an enemy group or nation. The activities of a fifth column can be overt or clandestine. Forces gathered in secret can mobilize openly to assist an external attack. This term is also extended to organized actions by military personnel. Clandestine fifth column activities can involve acts of sabotage, disinformation, or espionage executed within defense lines by secret sympathizers with an external force."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column
16 May 2016 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
reina spectrum blue.. song..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRipheS8dxE&list=RDGRipheS8dxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRipheS8dxE&list=RDGRipheS8dxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRipheS8dxE&list=RDGRipheS8dxE
16 May 2016 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
To look later: This story relevant, minute 42.. keep in mind Roman "Gods"
https://youtu.be/IDlx1-WAcCI?t=2520
https://youtu.be/IDlx1-WAcCI?t=2520
https://youtu.be/IDlx1-WAcCI?t=2520
16 May 2016 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pxRXP3w-sQ&list=RDGRipheS8dxE&index=12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubPSHOS9ZgI&index=14&list=RDGRipheS8dxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrBlzfaWA-o&list=RDGRipheS8dxE&index=27 ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHAhnJbGy9M&index=18&list=RDGRipheS8dxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otNyX_uMXYk&list=RDGRipheS8dxE&index=27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pxRXP3w-sQ&list=RDGRipheS8dxE&index=12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubPSHOS9ZgI&index=14&list=RDGRipheS8dxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrBlzfaWA-o&list=RDGRipheS8dxE&index=27 ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHAhnJbGy9M&index=18&list=RDGRipheS8dxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otNyX_uMXYk&list=RDGRipheS8dxE&index=27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pxRXP3w-sQ&list=RDGRipheS8dxE&index=12
16 May 2016 00:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Disagreement developed between Jadid, who controlled the party apparatus, and Assad, who controlled the military. The 1970 retreat of Syrian forces sent to aid the PLO during the "Black September" hostilities with Jordan reflected this disagreement. The power struggle culminated in the November 1970 Syrian Corrective Revolution, a bloodless military overthrow that installed Hafez al-Assad as the strongman of the government
// good or bad? Taken away from a bad? //
In early 1976, Syria entered Lebanon, beginning the thirty-year Syrian military occupation. Over the following 15 years of civil war, Syria fought for control over Lebanon, and attempted to stop Israel from taking over in southern Lebanon, through extensive use of proxy militias. Syria then remained in Lebanon until 2005.
//(they say)// In the late 1970s, an Islamist uprising by the Muslim Brotherhood was aimed against the government. Islamists attacked civilians and off-duty military personnel, leading security forces to also kill civilians in retaliatory strikes. The uprising had reached its climax in the 1982 Hama massacre, when some 10,000 – 40,000 people were killed by regular Syrian Army troops.
In a major shift in relations with both other Arab states and the Western world, Syria participated in the US-led Gulf War against Saddam Hussein. Syria participated in the multilateral Madrid Conference of 1991, and during the 1990s engaged in negotiations with Israel. These negotiations failed, and there have been no further direct Syrian-Israeli talks since President Hafez al-Assad's meeting with then President Bill Clinton in Geneva in March 2000
Hafez al-Assad died on 10 June 2000. His son, Bashar al-Assad, was elected President in an election in which he ran unopposed. His election saw the birth of the Damascus Spring and hopes of reform, but by autumn 2001, the authorities had suppressed the movement, imprisoning some of its leading intellectuals. Instead, reforms have been limited to some market reforms
In 2005, Syria ended its occupation of Lebanon. On 6 September 2007, foreign jet fighters, suspected as Israeli, reportedly carried out Operation Orchard against a suspected nuclear reactor under construction by North Korean technicians.
The ongoing Syrian Civil War was inspired by the Arab Spring revolutions. It began in 2011 as a chain of peaceful protests, followed by a crackdown by the Syrian Army. In July 2011, army defectors declared the formation of the Free Syrian Army and began forming fighting units. The opposition is dominated by Sunni Muslims, whereas the leading government figures are Alawites. According to various sources, including the United Nations, up to 100,000 people had been killed by June 2013, including 11,000 children. To escape the violence, over 2.1 million Syrian refugees have fled to neighboring countries of Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, and Turkey. An estimated 450,000 Syrian Christians have fled their homes.[101] As the civil war has dragged on, there have been worries that the country could become fragmented and cease to function as a state
Syria is formally a unitary republic. The constitution adopted in 2012 effectively transformed Syria into a semi-presidential republic due to the constitutional right for the election of individuals who do not form part of the National Progressive Front. The President is Head of State and the Prime Minister is Head of Government. The legislature, the Peoples Council, is the body responsible for passing laws, approving government appropriations and debating policy. In the event of a vote of no confidence by a simple majority, the Prime Minister is required to tender the resignation of their government to the President.
The executive branch consists of the president, two vice presidents, the prime minister, and the Council of Ministers (cabinet). The constitution requires the president to be a Muslim but does not make Islam the state religion.
As a result of the ongoing civil war, various alternative governments were formed, including the Syrian Interim Government, the Democratic Union Party and localised regions governed by sharia law. Representatives of the Syrian Interim government were invited to take up Syria's seat at the Arab League on 28 March 2013 and was recognised as the "sole representative of the Syrian people" by several nations including the United States, United Kingdom and France.
Parliamentary elections were held on 13 April 2016 in the government-controlled areas of Syria, for all 250 seats of Syria's unicameral legislature, the Majlis al-Sha'ab, or the People's Council of Syria. Even before results had been announced, several nations, including Germany, the United States and the United Kingdom, have declared their refusal to accept the results, largely citing it "not representing the will of the Syrian people. However, representatives of the Russian Federation have voiced their support of this election's results.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria The Syrian Revolution 2011 الثورة السورية ضد بشار الاسد
// good or bad? Taken away from a bad? //
In early 1976, Syria entered Lebanon, beginning the thirty-year Syrian military occupation. Over the following 15 years of civil war, Syria fought for control over Lebanon, and attempted to stop Israel from taking over in southern Lebanon, through extensive use of proxy militias. Syria then remained in Lebanon until 2005.
//(they say)// In the late 1970s, an Islamist uprising by the Muslim Brotherhood was aimed against the government. Islamists attacked civilians and off-duty military personnel, leading security forces to also kill civilians in retaliatory strikes. The uprising had reached its climax in the 1982 Hama massacre, when some 10,000 – 40,000 people were killed by regular Syrian Army troops.
In a major shift in relations with both other Arab states and the Western world, Syria participated in the US-led Gulf War against Saddam Hussein. Syria participated in the multilateral Madrid Conference of 1991, and during the 1990s engaged in negotiations with Israel. These negotiations failed, and there have been no further direct Syrian-Israeli talks since President Hafez al-Assad's meeting with then President Bill Clinton in Geneva in March 2000
Hafez al-Assad died on 10 June 2000. His son, Bashar al-Assad, was elected President in an election in which he ran unopposed. His election saw the birth of the Damascus Spring and hopes of reform, but by autumn 2001, the authorities had suppressed the movement, imprisoning some of its leading intellectuals. Instead, reforms have been limited to some market reforms
In 2005, Syria ended its occupation of Lebanon. On 6 September 2007, foreign jet fighters, suspected as Israeli, reportedly carried out Operation Orchard against a suspected nuclear reactor under construction by North Korean technicians.
The ongoing Syrian Civil War was inspired by the Arab Spring revolutions. It began in 2011 as a chain of peaceful protests, followed by a crackdown by the Syrian Army. In July 2011, army defectors declared the formation of the Free Syrian Army and began forming fighting units. The opposition is dominated by Sunni Muslims, whereas the leading government figures are Alawites. According to various sources, including the United Nations, up to 100,000 people had been killed by June 2013, including 11,000 children. To escape the violence, over 2.1 million Syrian refugees have fled to neighboring countries of Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, and Turkey. An estimated 450,000 Syrian Christians have fled their homes.[101] As the civil war has dragged on, there have been worries that the country could become fragmented and cease to function as a state
Syria is formally a unitary republic. The constitution adopted in 2012 effectively transformed Syria into a semi-presidential republic due to the constitutional right for the election of individuals who do not form part of the National Progressive Front. The President is Head of State and the Prime Minister is Head of Government. The legislature, the Peoples Council, is the body responsible for passing laws, approving government appropriations and debating policy. In the event of a vote of no confidence by a simple majority, the Prime Minister is required to tender the resignation of their government to the President.
The executive branch consists of the president, two vice presidents, the prime minister, and the Council of Ministers (cabinet). The constitution requires the president to be a Muslim but does not make Islam the state religion.
As a result of the ongoing civil war, various alternative governments were formed, including the Syrian Interim Government, the Democratic Union Party and localised regions governed by sharia law. Representatives of the Syrian Interim government were invited to take up Syria's seat at the Arab League on 28 March 2013 and was recognised as the "sole representative of the Syrian people" by several nations including the United States, United Kingdom and France.
Parliamentary elections were held on 13 April 2016 in the government-controlled areas of Syria, for all 250 seats of Syria's unicameral legislature, the Majlis al-Sha'ab, or the People's Council of Syria. Even before results had been announced, several nations, including Germany, the United States and the United Kingdom, have declared their refusal to accept the results, largely citing it "not representing the will of the Syrian people. However, representatives of the Russian Federation have voiced their support of this election's results.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria The Syrian Revolution 2011 الثورة السورية ضد بشار الاسد
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria
16 May 2016 00:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
In 1516, the Ottoman Empire invaded the Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt, conquering Syria, and incorporating it into its empire. The Ottoman system was not burdensome to Syrians because the Turks respected Arabic as the language of the Quran, and accepted the mantle of defenders of the faith. Damascus was made the major entrepot for Mecca, and as such it acquired a holy character to Muslims, because of the beneficial results of the countless pilgrims who passed through on the hajj, the pilgrimage to Mecca.
// hetkeks päris hea juba väliselt, kuid .. //
Ottoman administration followed a system that led to peaceful coexistence. Each ethno-religious minority – Arab Shia Muslim, Arab Sunni Muslim, Aramean-Syriac Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Maronite Christians, Assyrian Christians, Armenians, Kurds and Jews – constituted a millet. The religious heads of each community administered all personal status laws and performed certain civil functions as well. In 1831, Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt renounced his loyalty to the Empire and overran Ottoman Syria, capturing Damascus. His short-term rule over the domain attempted to change the demographics and social structure of the region: he brought thousands of Egyptian villagers to populate the plains of Southern Syria, rebuilt Jaffa and settled it with veteran Egyptian soldiers aiming to turn it into a regional capital, and he crushed peasant and Druze rebellions and deported non-loyal tribesmen. By 1840, however, he had to surrender the area back to the Ottomans
From 1864, Tanzimat reforms were applied on Ottoman Syria, carving out the provinces (vilayets) of Aleppo, Zor, Beirut and Damascus Vilayet; Mutasarrifate of Mount Lebanon was created, as well, and soon after the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem was given a separate status
// Ottomans olid siis osaliselt nagu Rooma, pättide, sõdalaste communistide robotite meelsed, usu vastased pigem //
During World War I, the Ottoman Empire entered the conflict on the side of Germany and the Austro-Hungarian Empire. It ultimately suffered defeat and loss of control of the entire Near East to the British Empire and French Empire. During the conflict, genocide against indigenous Christian peoples was carried out by the Ottomans and their allies in the form of the Armenian Genocide and Assyrian Genocide, of which Deir ez-Zor, in Ottoman Syria, was the final destination of these death marches
In the midst of World War I, two Allied diplomats (Frenchman François Georges-Picot and Briton Mark Sykes) secretly agreed on the post-war division of the Ottoman Empire into respective zones of influence in the Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916. Initially, the two territories were separated by a border that ran in an almost straight line from Jordan to Iran.
However, the discovery of oil in the region of Mosul just before the end of the war led to yet another negotiation with France in 1918 to cede this region to 'Zone B', or the British zone of influence. This border was later recognized internationally when Syria became a League of Nations mandate in 1920 and has not changed to date.
In 1920, a short-lived independent Kingdom of Syria was established under Faisal I of the Hashemite family. However, his rule over Syria ended after only a few months, following the Battle of Maysalun. French troops occupied Syria later that year after the San Remo conference proposed that the League of Nations put Syria under a French mandate. General Gouraud had according to his secretary de Caix two options: "Either build a Syrian nation that does not exist... by smoothing the rifts which still divide it"
or "cultivate and maintain all the phenomena, which require our abitration that these divisions give".
De Caix added "I must say only the second option interests me". This is what Gouraud did.
Syria and France negotiated a treaty of independence in September 1936, and Hashim al-Atassi was the first president to be elected under the first incarnation of the modern republic of Syria. However, the treaty never came into force because the French Legislature refused to ratify it. With the fall of France in 1940 during World War II, Syria came under the control of Vichy France until the British and Free French occupied the country in the Syria-Lebanon campaign in July 1941
Continuing pressure from Syrian nationalists and the British forced the French to evacuate their troops in April 1946, leaving the country in the hands of a republican government that had been formed during the mandate
Upheaval dominated Syrian politics from independence through the late 1960s. In May 1948, Syrian forces invaded Palestine, together with other Arab states, and immediately attacked Jewish settlements. Their president Shukri al-Quwwatli instructed his troops in the front, “to destroy the Zionists". The Invasion purpose was prevention of the establishment of the State of Israel
The weakness of Parliamentary institutions and the mismanagement of the economy led to unrest and the influence of Nasserism and other ideologies. There was fertile ground for various Arab nationalist, Syrian nationalist, and socialist movements, which represented disaffected elements of society. Notably included were religious minorities, who demanded radical reform.
In November 1956, as a direct result of the Suez Crisis, Syria signed a pact with the Soviet Union. This gave a foothold for Communist influence within the government in exchange for military equipment. Turkey then became worried about this increase in the strength of Syrian military technology, as it seemed feasible that Syria might attempt to retake İskenderun. Only heated debates in the United Nations lessened the threat of war
After Israel launched a preemptive strike on Egypt to begin the Six-Day War, Syria joined the war and attacked against Israel as well. In the final days of the war, Israel turned its attention to Syria, capturing two-thirds of the Golan Heights in under 48 hours. The defeat caused a split between Jadid and Assad over what steps to take next
The Syrian Revolution 2011 الثورة السورية ضد بشار الاسد
// hetkeks päris hea juba väliselt, kuid .. //
Ottoman administration followed a system that led to peaceful coexistence. Each ethno-religious minority – Arab Shia Muslim, Arab Sunni Muslim, Aramean-Syriac Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Maronite Christians, Assyrian Christians, Armenians, Kurds and Jews – constituted a millet. The religious heads of each community administered all personal status laws and performed certain civil functions as well. In 1831, Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt renounced his loyalty to the Empire and overran Ottoman Syria, capturing Damascus. His short-term rule over the domain attempted to change the demographics and social structure of the region: he brought thousands of Egyptian villagers to populate the plains of Southern Syria, rebuilt Jaffa and settled it with veteran Egyptian soldiers aiming to turn it into a regional capital, and he crushed peasant and Druze rebellions and deported non-loyal tribesmen. By 1840, however, he had to surrender the area back to the Ottomans
From 1864, Tanzimat reforms were applied on Ottoman Syria, carving out the provinces (vilayets) of Aleppo, Zor, Beirut and Damascus Vilayet; Mutasarrifate of Mount Lebanon was created, as well, and soon after the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem was given a separate status
// Ottomans olid siis osaliselt nagu Rooma, pättide, sõdalaste communistide robotite meelsed, usu vastased pigem //
During World War I, the Ottoman Empire entered the conflict on the side of Germany and the Austro-Hungarian Empire. It ultimately suffered defeat and loss of control of the entire Near East to the British Empire and French Empire. During the conflict, genocide against indigenous Christian peoples was carried out by the Ottomans and their allies in the form of the Armenian Genocide and Assyrian Genocide, of which Deir ez-Zor, in Ottoman Syria, was the final destination of these death marches
In the midst of World War I, two Allied diplomats (Frenchman François Georges-Picot and Briton Mark Sykes) secretly agreed on the post-war division of the Ottoman Empire into respective zones of influence in the Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916. Initially, the two territories were separated by a border that ran in an almost straight line from Jordan to Iran.
However, the discovery of oil in the region of Mosul just before the end of the war led to yet another negotiation with France in 1918 to cede this region to 'Zone B', or the British zone of influence. This border was later recognized internationally when Syria became a League of Nations mandate in 1920 and has not changed to date.
In 1920, a short-lived independent Kingdom of Syria was established under Faisal I of the Hashemite family. However, his rule over Syria ended after only a few months, following the Battle of Maysalun. French troops occupied Syria later that year after the San Remo conference proposed that the League of Nations put Syria under a French mandate. General Gouraud had according to his secretary de Caix two options: "Either build a Syrian nation that does not exist... by smoothing the rifts which still divide it"
or "cultivate and maintain all the phenomena, which require our abitration that these divisions give".
De Caix added "I must say only the second option interests me". This is what Gouraud did.
Syria and France negotiated a treaty of independence in September 1936, and Hashim al-Atassi was the first president to be elected under the first incarnation of the modern republic of Syria. However, the treaty never came into force because the French Legislature refused to ratify it. With the fall of France in 1940 during World War II, Syria came under the control of Vichy France until the British and Free French occupied the country in the Syria-Lebanon campaign in July 1941
Continuing pressure from Syrian nationalists and the British forced the French to evacuate their troops in April 1946, leaving the country in the hands of a republican government that had been formed during the mandate
Upheaval dominated Syrian politics from independence through the late 1960s. In May 1948, Syrian forces invaded Palestine, together with other Arab states, and immediately attacked Jewish settlements. Their president Shukri al-Quwwatli instructed his troops in the front, “to destroy the Zionists". The Invasion purpose was prevention of the establishment of the State of Israel
The weakness of Parliamentary institutions and the mismanagement of the economy led to unrest and the influence of Nasserism and other ideologies. There was fertile ground for various Arab nationalist, Syrian nationalist, and socialist movements, which represented disaffected elements of society. Notably included were religious minorities, who demanded radical reform.
In November 1956, as a direct result of the Suez Crisis, Syria signed a pact with the Soviet Union. This gave a foothold for Communist influence within the government in exchange for military equipment. Turkey then became worried about this increase in the strength of Syrian military technology, as it seemed feasible that Syria might attempt to retake İskenderun. Only heated debates in the United Nations lessened the threat of war
After Israel launched a preemptive strike on Egypt to begin the Six-Day War, Syria joined the war and attacked against Israel as well. In the final days of the war, Israel turned its attention to Syria, capturing two-thirds of the Golan Heights in under 48 hours. The defeat caused a split between Jadid and Assad over what steps to take next
The Syrian Revolution 2011 الثورة السورية ضد بشار الاسد
16 May 2016 00:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
So what can be solutions for this ? This is just short notes about some actions in this country, by not far all the conflicts, just some hilights:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_opposition#Other_groups_affiliated_with_Syrian_opposition
Today, A country of fertile plains, high mountains, and deserts, Syria is home to diverse ethnic and religious groups, including Syrian Arabs, Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians, Kurds, Circassians, Mandeans and Turks. Religious groups include Sunnis, Christians, Alawites, Druze, Mandeans, Shiites, Salafis, and Yazidis. Sunni Arabs make up the largest population group in Syria
Before
Scholars believe the language of Ebla to be among the oldest known written Semitic languages after Akkadian, Recent classifications of the Eblaite language have shown that it was an East Semitic language, closely related to the Akkadian language.
Ebla was weakened by a long war with Mari, and the whole of Syria became part of the Mesopotamian Akkadian Empire after Sargon of Akkad and his grandson Naram-Sin's conquests ended Eblan domination over Syria in the first half of the 23rd century BC
"Around the 14th century BC, various Semitic peoples appeared in the area, such as the semi-nomadic Suteans who came into an unsuccessful conflict with Babylonia to the east, and the West Semitic speaking Arameans who subsumed the earlier Amorites. They too were subjugated by Assyria and the Hittites for centuries. The Egyptians fought the Hittites for control over western Syria"
"Assyrian domination ended after the Assyrians greatly weakened themselves in a series of brutal internal civil wars, followed by an attacking coalition of their former subject peoples; the Medes, Babylonians, Chaldeans, Persians, Scythians and Cimmerians. During the fall of Assyria, the Scythians ravaged and plundered much of Syria. The last stand of the Assyrian army was at Carchemish in northern Syria in 605 BC."
The Assyrian Empire was followed by the Neo-Babylonian Empire (605 BC – 539 BC). During this period, Syria became a battle ground between Babylonia and another former Assyrian colony, that of Egypt. The Babylonians, like their Assyrian relations, were victorious over Egypt.
The Achaemenid Persians took Syria from Babylonia as part of their hegemony of Southwest Asia in 539 BC. The Persians, having spent four centuries under Assyrian rule, retained Imperial Aramaic as diplomatic language in the Achaemenid Empire (539 BC- 330 BC), and also the Assyrian name of the satrapy of Aram/Syria Eber-Nari.
Syria was conquered by the Greek Macedonian Empire, ruled by Alexander the Great circa 330 BC, and consequently became Coele-Syria province of the Greek Seleucid Empire (323 BC – 64 BC).
It was the Greeks who introduced the name "Syria" to the region. Originally an Indo-European corruption of "Assyria" in northern Mesopotamia, the Greeks used this term to describe not only Assyria itself but also the lands to the west which had for centuries been under Assyrian dominion. Thus in the Greco-Roman world both the Arameans of Syria and the Assyrians of Mesopotamia to the east were referred to as "Syrians" or "Syriacs", despite these being distinct peoples in their own right, a confusion which would continue into the modern world.
Eventually parts of southern Seleucid Syria were taken by Judean Hasmoneans upon the slow disintegration of the Hellenistic Empire.
Syria briefly came under Armenian control from 83 BC, with the conquests of Tigranes the Great, who was welcomed as a savior from the Seleucids and Romans by its people. The Armenians retained control of Syria for two decades before being driven out by the Romans.
Roman theatre of Bosra in the province of Arabia, present-day Syria
Pompey the Great of the Roman Empire, who captured Antioch in 64 BC, turning Syria into a Roman province.
Palmyra, a rich and sometimes powerful native Aramaic-speaking kingdom arose in northern Syria in the 2nd century; the Palmyrene established a trade network that made the city one of the richest in the Roman empire
Syriac Christianity had taken hold as the major religion, although others still followed Judaism, Mithraism, Manicheanism, Greco-Roman Religion, Canaanite Religion and Mesopotamian Religion. Syria's large and prosperous population made Syria one of the most important of the Roman and Byzantine provinces, particularly during the 2nd and 3rd centuries (AD) // roman empire, russian communist technological ideology //
The largely Aramaic-speaking population of Syria during the heyday of the Byzantine empire was probably not exceeded again until the 19th century. Prior to the Arab Islamic Conquest in the 7th century AD, the bulk of the population were Arameans, but Syria was also home to Greek and Roman ruling classes
The Roman Emperor Alexander Severus, who was emperor from 222 to 235, was an Aramean from Syria. His cousin Elagabalus, who was emperor from 218 to 222, was also from Syria and his family held hereditary rights to the high priesthood of the Aramean sun god El-Gabal at Emesa (modern Homs) in Syria. Another Roman emperor who was a Syrian was Philip the Arab (Marcus Julius Philippus), emperor from 244 to 249.
Syria is significant in the history of Christianity; Saulus of Tarsus, better known as the Apostle Paul, was converted on the Road to Damascus and emerged as a significant figure in the Christian Church at Antioch in ancient Syria, from which he left on many of his missionary journeys. (Acts 9:1–43
Control of Syria eventually passed from the Romans to the Byzantines, with the split in the Roman Empire // (the "Third Rome") //
By AD 640, Syria was conquered by the Arab Rashidun army led by Khalid ibn al-Walid. In the mid-7th century, the Umayyad dynasty, then rulers of the empire, placed the capital of the empire in Damascus. The country's power declined during later Umayyad rule; due mainly to totalitarianism, corruption and the resulting revolutions. The Umayyad dynasty was then overthrown in 750 by the Abbasid dynasty, which moved the capital of empire to Baghdad.
Arabic – made official under Umayyad rule – became the dominant language, replacing Greek and Aramaic of the Byzantine era. In 887, the Egypt-based Tulunids annexed Syria from the Abbasids, and were later replaced by once the Egypt-based Ikhshidids and still later by the Hamdanids originating in Aleppo founded by Sayf al-Dawla.
Sections of Syria were held by French, English, Italian and German overlords between 1098 and 1189 AD during the Crusades and were known collectively as the Crusader states among which the primary one in Syria was the Principality of Antioch. The coastal mountainous region was also occupied in part by the Nizari Ismailis, the so-called Assassins, who had intermittent confrontations and truces with the Crusader States. Later in history when "the Nizaris faced renewed Frankish hostilities, they received timely assistance from the Ayyubids."
After a century of Seljuk rule, Syria was largely conquered (1175–1185) by the Kurdish warlord Saladin, founder of the Ayyubid dynasty of Egypt.
In 1400, the Muslim Turco-Mongol conqueror Timur Lenk (Tamurlane) invaded Syria, sacked Aleppo and captured Damascus after defeating the Mamluk army. The city's inhabitants were massacred, except for the artisans, who were deported to Samarkand Timur-Lenk also conducted specific massacres of the Aramean and Assyrian Christian populations, greatly reducing their numbers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_opposition#Other_groups_affiliated_with_Syrian_opposition
Today, A country of fertile plains, high mountains, and deserts, Syria is home to diverse ethnic and religious groups, including Syrian Arabs, Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians, Kurds, Circassians, Mandeans and Turks. Religious groups include Sunnis, Christians, Alawites, Druze, Mandeans, Shiites, Salafis, and Yazidis. Sunni Arabs make up the largest population group in Syria
Before
Scholars believe the language of Ebla to be among the oldest known written Semitic languages after Akkadian, Recent classifications of the Eblaite language have shown that it was an East Semitic language, closely related to the Akkadian language.
Ebla was weakened by a long war with Mari, and the whole of Syria became part of the Mesopotamian Akkadian Empire after Sargon of Akkad and his grandson Naram-Sin's conquests ended Eblan domination over Syria in the first half of the 23rd century BC
"Around the 14th century BC, various Semitic peoples appeared in the area, such as the semi-nomadic Suteans who came into an unsuccessful conflict with Babylonia to the east, and the West Semitic speaking Arameans who subsumed the earlier Amorites. They too were subjugated by Assyria and the Hittites for centuries. The Egyptians fought the Hittites for control over western Syria"
"Assyrian domination ended after the Assyrians greatly weakened themselves in a series of brutal internal civil wars, followed by an attacking coalition of their former subject peoples; the Medes, Babylonians, Chaldeans, Persians, Scythians and Cimmerians. During the fall of Assyria, the Scythians ravaged and plundered much of Syria. The last stand of the Assyrian army was at Carchemish in northern Syria in 605 BC."
The Assyrian Empire was followed by the Neo-Babylonian Empire (605 BC – 539 BC). During this period, Syria became a battle ground between Babylonia and another former Assyrian colony, that of Egypt. The Babylonians, like their Assyrian relations, were victorious over Egypt.
The Achaemenid Persians took Syria from Babylonia as part of their hegemony of Southwest Asia in 539 BC. The Persians, having spent four centuries under Assyrian rule, retained Imperial Aramaic as diplomatic language in the Achaemenid Empire (539 BC- 330 BC), and also the Assyrian name of the satrapy of Aram/Syria Eber-Nari.
Syria was conquered by the Greek Macedonian Empire, ruled by Alexander the Great circa 330 BC, and consequently became Coele-Syria province of the Greek Seleucid Empire (323 BC – 64 BC).
It was the Greeks who introduced the name "Syria" to the region. Originally an Indo-European corruption of "Assyria" in northern Mesopotamia, the Greeks used this term to describe not only Assyria itself but also the lands to the west which had for centuries been under Assyrian dominion. Thus in the Greco-Roman world both the Arameans of Syria and the Assyrians of Mesopotamia to the east were referred to as "Syrians" or "Syriacs", despite these being distinct peoples in their own right, a confusion which would continue into the modern world.
Eventually parts of southern Seleucid Syria were taken by Judean Hasmoneans upon the slow disintegration of the Hellenistic Empire.
Syria briefly came under Armenian control from 83 BC, with the conquests of Tigranes the Great, who was welcomed as a savior from the Seleucids and Romans by its people. The Armenians retained control of Syria for two decades before being driven out by the Romans.
Roman theatre of Bosra in the province of Arabia, present-day Syria
Pompey the Great of the Roman Empire, who captured Antioch in 64 BC, turning Syria into a Roman province.
Palmyra, a rich and sometimes powerful native Aramaic-speaking kingdom arose in northern Syria in the 2nd century; the Palmyrene established a trade network that made the city one of the richest in the Roman empire
Syriac Christianity had taken hold as the major religion, although others still followed Judaism, Mithraism, Manicheanism, Greco-Roman Religion, Canaanite Religion and Mesopotamian Religion. Syria's large and prosperous population made Syria one of the most important of the Roman and Byzantine provinces, particularly during the 2nd and 3rd centuries (AD) // roman empire, russian communist technological ideology //
The largely Aramaic-speaking population of Syria during the heyday of the Byzantine empire was probably not exceeded again until the 19th century. Prior to the Arab Islamic Conquest in the 7th century AD, the bulk of the population were Arameans, but Syria was also home to Greek and Roman ruling classes
The Roman Emperor Alexander Severus, who was emperor from 222 to 235, was an Aramean from Syria. His cousin Elagabalus, who was emperor from 218 to 222, was also from Syria and his family held hereditary rights to the high priesthood of the Aramean sun god El-Gabal at Emesa (modern Homs) in Syria. Another Roman emperor who was a Syrian was Philip the Arab (Marcus Julius Philippus), emperor from 244 to 249.
Syria is significant in the history of Christianity; Saulus of Tarsus, better known as the Apostle Paul, was converted on the Road to Damascus and emerged as a significant figure in the Christian Church at Antioch in ancient Syria, from which he left on many of his missionary journeys. (Acts 9:1–43
Control of Syria eventually passed from the Romans to the Byzantines, with the split in the Roman Empire // (the "Third Rome") //
By AD 640, Syria was conquered by the Arab Rashidun army led by Khalid ibn al-Walid. In the mid-7th century, the Umayyad dynasty, then rulers of the empire, placed the capital of the empire in Damascus. The country's power declined during later Umayyad rule; due mainly to totalitarianism, corruption and the resulting revolutions. The Umayyad dynasty was then overthrown in 750 by the Abbasid dynasty, which moved the capital of empire to Baghdad.
Arabic – made official under Umayyad rule – became the dominant language, replacing Greek and Aramaic of the Byzantine era. In 887, the Egypt-based Tulunids annexed Syria from the Abbasids, and were later replaced by once the Egypt-based Ikhshidids and still later by the Hamdanids originating in Aleppo founded by Sayf al-Dawla.
Sections of Syria were held by French, English, Italian and German overlords between 1098 and 1189 AD during the Crusades and were known collectively as the Crusader states among which the primary one in Syria was the Principality of Antioch. The coastal mountainous region was also occupied in part by the Nizari Ismailis, the so-called Assassins, who had intermittent confrontations and truces with the Crusader States. Later in history when "the Nizaris faced renewed Frankish hostilities, they received timely assistance from the Ayyubids."
After a century of Seljuk rule, Syria was largely conquered (1175–1185) by the Kurdish warlord Saladin, founder of the Ayyubid dynasty of Egypt.
In 1400, the Muslim Turco-Mongol conqueror Timur Lenk (Tamurlane) invaded Syria, sacked Aleppo and captured Damascus after defeating the Mamluk army. The city's inhabitants were massacred, except for the artisans, who were deported to Samarkand Timur-Lenk also conducted specific massacres of the Aramean and Assyrian Christian populations, greatly reducing their numbers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_opposition#Other_groups_affiliated_with_Syrian_opposition
16 May 2016 00:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
THe syrian thing:
Main belligerents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_civil_war
Wiki Portal: Syrian Arab Republic and allies / Syrian opposition / International anti-ISIL coalition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Syrian_Civil_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_Syria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_intervention_against_ISIL
Main belligerents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_civil_war
Wiki Portal: Syrian Arab Republic and allies / Syrian opposition / International anti-ISIL coalition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Syrian_Civil_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_Syria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_intervention_against_ISIL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_civil_war
16 May 2016 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Also important updates always in talk pages like:
(just sample, example)
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"It's important to see that Islamist rebel factions aren't opposed to Al Nusra Front (JN), and sometimes fight altogether against FSA groups. I call them Islamist rebel factions : the term of "moderate" islamists is way too controversial IMO. This appellation isn't shared by some factions such as Russia nor Iran nor Syrian Government nor Syrian Democratic Forces... (example : https://www.rt.com/op-edge/319309-syria-moderate-rebels-isis/ ). Some western medias make critics of this appellation too : http://www.atlantico.fr/decryptage/apres-islamistes-moderes-voici-maintenant-djihadistes-moderes-benoit-rayski-1680579.html
The article shows that JN (Al Nusra front) is in a different category from many other islamist factions. But in fact, JN is a part of the Army of Conquest(Jaish al-Fatah) with other islamist groups, such as Ahrar ash-Sham, Jund al-Aqsa, Muslim Brotherhood of Syria, Sham Legion, Jaysh al-Sunna, Jaysh al-Nasr, Imam Bukhari Jamaat, Liwa al-Haqq. Knowing that, how can Sham Legion, Army of Mujahedeen, Ajnad al-Sham Islamic Union be classified as a part of the Free Syrian Army ? This is a wrong classification in 2016.
Also, the name of "Syrian Kurdistan and allies" category should be changed in Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), which is the name of the coalition created in 2015. In fact, the former FSA group, Jaysh al-Thuwar, is now a component of the Syrian Democratic Forces, with about 3000 fighters. Al-Sanadid Forces, with about 9000 fighters, is a member of the SDF too
This is fairly important to categorize correctly so that the readers of this article can better-understand how the different factions are related to each-other."
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(just sample, example)
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"It's important to see that Islamist rebel factions aren't opposed to Al Nusra Front (JN), and sometimes fight altogether against FSA groups. I call them Islamist rebel factions : the term of "moderate" islamists is way too controversial IMO. This appellation isn't shared by some factions such as Russia nor Iran nor Syrian Government nor Syrian Democratic Forces... (example : https://www.rt.com/op-edge/319309-syria-moderate-rebels-isis/ ). Some western medias make critics of this appellation too : http://www.atlantico.fr/decryptage/apres-islamistes-moderes-voici-maintenant-djihadistes-moderes-benoit-rayski-1680579.html
The article shows that JN (Al Nusra front) is in a different category from many other islamist factions. But in fact, JN is a part of the Army of Conquest(Jaish al-Fatah) with other islamist groups, such as Ahrar ash-Sham, Jund al-Aqsa, Muslim Brotherhood of Syria, Sham Legion, Jaysh al-Sunna, Jaysh al-Nasr, Imam Bukhari Jamaat, Liwa al-Haqq. Knowing that, how can Sham Legion, Army of Mujahedeen, Ajnad al-Sham Islamic Union be classified as a part of the Free Syrian Army ? This is a wrong classification in 2016.
Also, the name of "Syrian Kurdistan and allies" category should be changed in Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), which is the name of the coalition created in 2015. In fact, the former FSA group, Jaysh al-Thuwar, is now a component of the Syrian Democratic Forces, with about 3000 fighters. Al-Sanadid Forces, with about 9000 fighters, is a member of the SDF too
This is fairly important to categorize correctly so that the readers of this article can better-understand how the different factions are related to each-other."
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https://www.rt.com/op-edge/319309-syria-moderate-rebels-isis/
16 May 2016 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
My old doc, finished not.. about different way of thinkins of various breed of humans, mainly natural relgious human vs electronic one, in our view:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pnuy1IMjLIYjZhCyWeZDOpkUpwALl1-5WNLaJioqj3M/edit?usp=sharing
while the Greek mind seeks the holiness of beauty.
The Hebrew mind thinks of the Beauty of holiness.
This full test will help to investigate in future, the few versions of humans, of their mind workings, and if they are infected or interbreeded by alien ideology and recles short understandings.
It is possible to help to co-operate with the other side, but with these who agree them self to be on the wrong, un-earth side of the mind.
If One rebels, then one can be turned against their own parents even, easy.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pnuy1IMjLIYjZhCyWeZDOpkUpwALl1-5WNLaJioqj3M/edit?usp=sharing
while the Greek mind seeks the holiness of beauty.
The Hebrew mind thinks of the Beauty of holiness.
This full test will help to investigate in future, the few versions of humans, of their mind workings, and if they are infected or interbreeded by alien ideology and recles short understandings.
It is possible to help to co-operate with the other side, but with these who agree them self to be on the wrong, un-earth side of the mind.
If One rebels, then one can be turned against their own parents even, easy.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pnuy1IMjLIYjZhCyWeZDOpkUpwALl1-5WNLaJioqj3M/edit?usp=sharing
16 May 2016 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Compare allies: "Syrian Opposition al-Qaeda network and allies"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War#Overall_conflict_.282011.E2.80.93present.29
And all that made only so few arguments and archive pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War/Archive_1#Non-free_image_use
(compared to my few posts ago about cannabis smoking Sküütians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Scythians/Archive_5 4 3 2 1)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War#Overall_conflict_.282011.E2.80.93present.29
And all that made only so few arguments and archive pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War/Archive_1#Non-free_image_use
(compared to my few posts ago about cannabis smoking Sküütians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Scythians/Archive_5 4 3 2 1)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War#Overall_conflict_.282011.E2.80.93present.29
16 May 2016 00:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia
"The night hag is a generic name for a fantastical creature from the folklore of various peoples which is used to explain the phenomenon of sleep paralysis. A common description is that a person feels a presence of a supernatural malevolent being which immobilizes the person as if sitting on his/her chest.[33] Various cultures have various names for this phenomenon and/or supernatural character.
The Nightmare is a 2015 documentary that discusses the causes of sleep paralysis as seen through extensive interviews with participants, and the experiences are re-enacted by professional actors. In synopsis, it proposes that such cultural memes as alien abduction, the near death experience and shadow people can, in many cases, be attributed to sleep paralysis. "
FOLK knowledge:
Some say that the Hmong who died were killed by their own beliefs in the spiritual world, otherwise known as, “Nocturnal Pressing Spirit Attacks”. In Indonesia it is called digeuton, which translates to “pressed on” in English. In China it is called bei gui ya which translates to “held by a ghost” in English. The Dutch call the presence a nachtmerrie, the night-mare. The “mare” comes from the German word, mahr, which is a female supernatural being who “lies on people`s chests, suffocating them”. This phenomenon is well known among the Hmong people of Laos, who ascribe these deaths to a malign spirit, dab tsuam (pronounced "da cho"), said to take the form of a jealous woman. Hmong men may even go to sleep dressed as women so as to avoid the attentions of this spirit.[citation needed]
During the 1970`s and 1980`s when an outbreak of this syndrome began, many of the Southeast Asian`s were not able to worship properly due to the guerrilla war against the government of Laos with the United States. When the Hmong people do not worship properly, do not perform religious ritual properly or forget to sacrifice, the ancestor spirits or the village spirits do not protect them, thus allowing the evil spirit to reach them. These attacks induce a nightmare that leads to sleep paralysis when the victim is conscious and experiencing pressure on the chest. It is also common to have a REM state that is out of sequence where there is a mix of brain states that are normally held separate. After the war, the United States government scattered the Hmong across the country to 53 different cities. Once these nightmare visitations began, a shaman was recommended for psychic protection from the spirits of their sleep. However, scattered across 53 different cities, these victims had no access to any or the right shaman to protect them from this syndrome.
Hmong people believed that rejecting the role of becoming a shaman, they are taken into the spirit world.
Bangungot is depicted in the Philippines as a mythological creature called batibat or bangungot. This hag-like creature sits on the victim's face or chest so as to immobilize and suffocate him. When this occurs, the victim usually experiences paralysis. It's said that one should bite their tongue and wiggle their toes to try to get out of this paralysis or they may die from suffocation.
And see how many specific names the this human generation has generated for various versions of killings:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filicide#See_also
// It is like i looked one time wikipedia word comparing Lie vs Truth,... truth was philosophical concept and Lies was defined SOO many ways, classifications and all.. what a culture.. //
"The night hag is a generic name for a fantastical creature from the folklore of various peoples which is used to explain the phenomenon of sleep paralysis. A common description is that a person feels a presence of a supernatural malevolent being which immobilizes the person as if sitting on his/her chest.[33] Various cultures have various names for this phenomenon and/or supernatural character.
The Nightmare is a 2015 documentary that discusses the causes of sleep paralysis as seen through extensive interviews with participants, and the experiences are re-enacted by professional actors. In synopsis, it proposes that such cultural memes as alien abduction, the near death experience and shadow people can, in many cases, be attributed to sleep paralysis. "
FOLK knowledge:
Some say that the Hmong who died were killed by their own beliefs in the spiritual world, otherwise known as, “Nocturnal Pressing Spirit Attacks”. In Indonesia it is called digeuton, which translates to “pressed on” in English. In China it is called bei gui ya which translates to “held by a ghost” in English. The Dutch call the presence a nachtmerrie, the night-mare. The “mare” comes from the German word, mahr, which is a female supernatural being who “lies on people`s chests, suffocating them”. This phenomenon is well known among the Hmong people of Laos, who ascribe these deaths to a malign spirit, dab tsuam (pronounced "da cho"), said to take the form of a jealous woman. Hmong men may even go to sleep dressed as women so as to avoid the attentions of this spirit.[citation needed]
During the 1970`s and 1980`s when an outbreak of this syndrome began, many of the Southeast Asian`s were not able to worship properly due to the guerrilla war against the government of Laos with the United States. When the Hmong people do not worship properly, do not perform religious ritual properly or forget to sacrifice, the ancestor spirits or the village spirits do not protect them, thus allowing the evil spirit to reach them. These attacks induce a nightmare that leads to sleep paralysis when the victim is conscious and experiencing pressure on the chest. It is also common to have a REM state that is out of sequence where there is a mix of brain states that are normally held separate. After the war, the United States government scattered the Hmong across the country to 53 different cities. Once these nightmare visitations began, a shaman was recommended for psychic protection from the spirits of their sleep. However, scattered across 53 different cities, these victims had no access to any or the right shaman to protect them from this syndrome.
Hmong people believed that rejecting the role of becoming a shaman, they are taken into the spirit world.
Bangungot is depicted in the Philippines as a mythological creature called batibat or bangungot. This hag-like creature sits on the victim's face or chest so as to immobilize and suffocate him. When this occurs, the victim usually experiences paralysis. It's said that one should bite their tongue and wiggle their toes to try to get out of this paralysis or they may die from suffocation.
And see how many specific names the this human generation has generated for various versions of killings:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filicide#See_also
// It is like i looked one time wikipedia word comparing Lie vs Truth,... truth was philosophical concept and Lies was defined SOO many ways, classifications and all.. what a culture.. //
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia
16 May 2016 00:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_unexpected_death_syndrome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brugada_syndrome (BrS) sudden unexplained death syndrome (SUDS), also known as sudden adult death syndrome (SADS) average age of death is 41
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/09/the-dark-side-of-the-placebo-effect-when-intense-belief-kills/245065/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mare_(folklore)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_a_Dwarf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_sex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brugada_syndrome (BrS) sudden unexplained death syndrome (SUDS), also known as sudden adult death syndrome (SADS) average age of death is 41
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/09/the-dark-side-of-the-placebo-effect-when-intense-belief-kills/245065/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mare_(folklore)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_a_Dwarf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_sex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_unexpected_death_syndrome
16 May 2016 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_infant_death_syndrome
"Southeast Asian immigrants, who most, were fleeing the Vietnam War, suffered the most from this syndrome, marking Southeast Asia as the area containing the most people who suffer from this fatal syndrome. However, there are other Asian populations that were affected, such as, Filipinos and Chinese immigrants in the Philippines, Japanese in Japan and natives of Guam in the United States and Guam. Nonetheless, these particular immigrants who suffered from this syndrome were about 33 years old and seemingly healthy and all was man, but one of the Laotian Hmong refugees. The condition appears to affect primarily young Hmong men from Laos (median age 33) and northeastern Thailand (where the population are mainly of Laotian descent)."
"Southeast Asian immigrants, who most, were fleeing the Vietnam War, suffered the most from this syndrome, marking Southeast Asia as the area containing the most people who suffer from this fatal syndrome. However, there are other Asian populations that were affected, such as, Filipinos and Chinese immigrants in the Philippines, Japanese in Japan and natives of Guam in the United States and Guam. Nonetheless, these particular immigrants who suffered from this syndrome were about 33 years old and seemingly healthy and all was man, but one of the Laotian Hmong refugees. The condition appears to affect primarily young Hmong men from Laos (median age 33) and northeastern Thailand (where the population are mainly of Laotian descent)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_infant_death_syndrome
16 May 2016 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_farming
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetus_Farming_Prohibition_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_perversion#Violence_against_children
"SIDS was the third leading cause of death in children less than one year old in the United States in 2011"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetus_Farming_Prohibition_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_perversion#Violence_against_children
"SIDS was the third leading cause of death in children less than one year old in the United States in 2011"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_farming
16 May 2016 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#Peru
"between 1995 and 2000, 331,600 women were sterilized, while 25,590 men submitted to vasectomies"
400,000 indigenous people were sterilized during the 1990s. Documents proved that President Fujimori was informed, each month, of the number of sterilizations done, by his former Ministers of Health, Eduardo Yong Motta (1994–96), Marino Costa Bauer (1996–1999) and Alejandro Aguinaga (1999–2000). A study by sociologist Giulia Tamayo, Nada Personal (in English: Nothing Personal), showed that doctors were required to meet quotas
"In 1996 there were, according to official statistics, 81,762 tubal ligations performed on women, with a peak being reached the following year, with 109,689 ligatures, then only 25,995 in 1998" Only...
Taking in to acount, avarage 3 children per woman, then how many millions of people there was liminated ? Numbers bigger then in Syria active war innit... but how much have You heard about Peru?
Remeber the Peru part in this Holy Montain Movie? This action has been long lasting... as this people history go back to so long, they suposetly remember times, when womens did not have periods and there was no moon... so suspected conspiracy is that as they have superior loving heart that keeps sharing folk storyes and remeber them well, then this perhaps ...
You know, if other forces want to keep their version of history only..
and this is just one of the many ways, the eliminators work... and they will laught this projects in to people face later, telling, "you cried and worried about this and that... but you purposelly ignored seriousness of this.. so what kind of good hearted human you htink yu are, you two faced... arrogant.. humanrace... do as we tell you or... "
and ofcourse, they needed to test various serilizations to see effects of this all..
So Monaco, Bermuda, Czech, Macau, Malta, Belarus, Estonia, Taiwan, Slovakia, Poland, Guam, .. and 90 other countries are with higher rates then USA.. this was strange..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate
"between 1995 and 2000, 331,600 women were sterilized, while 25,590 men submitted to vasectomies"
400,000 indigenous people were sterilized during the 1990s. Documents proved that President Fujimori was informed, each month, of the number of sterilizations done, by his former Ministers of Health, Eduardo Yong Motta (1994–96), Marino Costa Bauer (1996–1999) and Alejandro Aguinaga (1999–2000). A study by sociologist Giulia Tamayo, Nada Personal (in English: Nothing Personal), showed that doctors were required to meet quotas
"In 1996 there were, according to official statistics, 81,762 tubal ligations performed on women, with a peak being reached the following year, with 109,689 ligatures, then only 25,995 in 1998" Only...
Taking in to acount, avarage 3 children per woman, then how many millions of people there was liminated ? Numbers bigger then in Syria active war innit... but how much have You heard about Peru?
Remeber the Peru part in this Holy Montain Movie? This action has been long lasting... as this people history go back to so long, they suposetly remember times, when womens did not have periods and there was no moon... so suspected conspiracy is that as they have superior loving heart that keeps sharing folk storyes and remeber them well, then this perhaps ...
You know, if other forces want to keep their version of history only..
and this is just one of the many ways, the eliminators work... and they will laught this projects in to people face later, telling, "you cried and worried about this and that... but you purposelly ignored seriousness of this.. so what kind of good hearted human you htink yu are, you two faced... arrogant.. humanrace... do as we tell you or... "
and ofcourse, they needed to test various serilizations to see effects of this all..
So Monaco, Bermuda, Czech, Macau, Malta, Belarus, Estonia, Taiwan, Slovakia, Poland, Guam, .. and 90 other countries are with higher rates then USA.. this was strange..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#Peru
16 May 2016 00:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Google translation:
"In political terms, Nils von Hofsten a convinced liberal "
There is something repulsive in the mentally deficient people may bring children into the world "
" In our country are the conditions for successful research exceptionally favorable; the population in many areas comparatively pure bred, and our church books contain more complete information than in any other country. We take on a prominent rasbiolog and genealogist, lecturer Herman Lundborg in Uppsala, who performed pioneering and globally prized surveys, which provide a guarantee to an under his leadership following institutions would be an honor for Swedish research "
" Eugenics, looking for funds to stem the threatening degeneration, has itself no means an easy task set before. A radical means is that by the permanent insulation or other measures suspend the most harmful elements of reproduction; when it comes highly substandard and certainly hereditary, not only personally degenerate individuals, such measures are undoubtedly justified."
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_von_Hofsten
https://rsnr.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/64/4/379
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilisation_in_Sweden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-selective_abortion#Estimates_of_missing_women
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide#Greece_and_Rome (Judaism permits if Child dangers life of Mother or case of rape)
But You must ask, who organized this tec. really, was they Nature Relgious minded? Rather not, rather liberal scientific, capitalistic but communistic (as capitalism is inside communism, inisde Roman Empire a system..)
"In political terms, Nils von Hofsten a convinced liberal "
There is something repulsive in the mentally deficient people may bring children into the world "
" In our country are the conditions for successful research exceptionally favorable; the population in many areas comparatively pure bred, and our church books contain more complete information than in any other country. We take on a prominent rasbiolog and genealogist, lecturer Herman Lundborg in Uppsala, who performed pioneering and globally prized surveys, which provide a guarantee to an under his leadership following institutions would be an honor for Swedish research "
" Eugenics, looking for funds to stem the threatening degeneration, has itself no means an easy task set before. A radical means is that by the permanent insulation or other measures suspend the most harmful elements of reproduction; when it comes highly substandard and certainly hereditary, not only personally degenerate individuals, such measures are undoubtedly justified."
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_von_Hofsten
https://rsnr.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/64/4/379
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilisation_in_Sweden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-selective_abortion#Estimates_of_missing_women
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide#Greece_and_Rome (Judaism permits if Child dangers life of Mother or case of rape)
But You must ask, who organized this tec. really, was they Nature Relgious minded? Rather not, rather liberal scientific, capitalistic but communistic (as capitalism is inside communism, inisde Roman Empire a system..)
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_von_Hofsten
16 May 2016 00:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
" In 1918 the society travelled around Sweden with an exhibit called “Folktyputställning” ("Exhibition about types of people"). The same year Frithiof Lennmalm, the headmaster of Karolinska Institutet proposed that the Nobel Foundation finance an institute for race biology. The Nobel committee for medicine voted unanimously in favour of the proposal. The staff of Karolinska Institutet voted against it with a very thin margin (9 against 8). Instead it was proposed that the Swedish state found and finance such an institute."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statens_institut_f%C3%B6r_rasbiologi
// They the ones who convinced Germany to do what they did, including anti-jewish behavor. With support of Lutherian (anti-jew Marthin Luther). Also planned if failed, to blame it all upfront on Germany to eliminate potential uprise of Europe nation heritage, in short. IN behind the scenes support with soviet scientists. Who desired to final takeower of Europe. And as we know, Roman Empire todays one of the expression: Russia, was founded by Rurik, who was of the Sweds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rurik https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rurik_dynasty //
"Lundborg was extremely negative towards the Jewish people, and strongly involved with the ideology of racial hygiene. In the beginning of the 20th century, the idea that eugenics could somehow improve society in general strongly evolved. In 1922, Sweden became the first country in the world to establish a eugenic governmental agency and started mayor research"
"This research later became one of the foundations under a eugenic program of the Swedish government, which consisted of both voluntary and involuntary sterilization of persons with negative genetic characteristics. The program was started in 1935 and would last until 1975"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Bernhard_Lundborg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statens_institut_f%C3%B6r_rasbiologi
// They the ones who convinced Germany to do what they did, including anti-jewish behavor. With support of Lutherian (anti-jew Marthin Luther). Also planned if failed, to blame it all upfront on Germany to eliminate potential uprise of Europe nation heritage, in short. IN behind the scenes support with soviet scientists. Who desired to final takeower of Europe. And as we know, Roman Empire todays one of the expression: Russia, was founded by Rurik, who was of the Sweds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rurik https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rurik_dynasty //
"Lundborg was extremely negative towards the Jewish people, and strongly involved with the ideology of racial hygiene. In the beginning of the 20th century, the idea that eugenics could somehow improve society in general strongly evolved. In 1922, Sweden became the first country in the world to establish a eugenic governmental agency and started mayor research"
"This research later became one of the foundations under a eugenic program of the Swedish government, which consisted of both voluntary and involuntary sterilization of persons with negative genetic characteristics. The program was started in 1935 and would last until 1975"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Bernhard_Lundborg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statens_institut_f%C3%B6r_rasbiologi
16 May 2016 00:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
The philosophy was most famously expounded by Plato, who believed human reproduction should be monitored and controlled by the state. However, Plato understood this form of government control would not be readily accepted, and proposed the truth be concealed from the public via a fixed lottery. Mates, in Plato's Republic, would be chosen by a "marriage number" in which the quality of the individual would be quantitatively analyzed, and persons of high numbers would be allowed to procreate with other persons of high numbers. In theory, this would lead to predictable results and the improvement of the human race. However, Plato acknowledged the failure of the "marriage number" since "gold soul" persons could still produce "bronze soul" children. Plato's ideas may have been one of the earliest attempts to mathematically analyze genetic inheritance, which was later improved by the development of Mendelian genetics and the mapping of the human genome.
Other ancient civilizations, such as Rome, Athens and Sparta, practiced infanticide through exposure and execution as a form of phenotypic selection. In Sparta, newborns were inspected by the city's elders, who decided the fate of the infant.
Trials for babies included bathing them in wine and exposing them to the elements. To Sparta, this would ensure only the strongest survived and procreated.
The Twelve Tables of Roman Law, established early in the formation of the Roman Republic, stated in the fourth table that deformed children must be put to death. In addition, patriarchs in Roman society were given the right to "discard" infants at their discretion. This was often done by drowning undesired newborns in the Tiber River. Commenting on the Roman practice of eugenics, the philosopher Seneca wrote that: "We put down mad dogs; we kill the wild, untamed ox; we use the knife on sick sheep to stop their infecting the flock; we destroy abnormal offspring at birth; children, too, if they are born weak or deformed, we drown. Yet this is not the work of anger, but of reason - to separate the sound from the worthless".[11] The practice of open infanticide in the Roman Empire did not subside until its Christianization.
"A few nations, notably Sweden and the Canadian province of Alberta, maintained large-scale eugenics programs, including forced sterilization of mentally handicapped individuals, as well as other practices, until the 1970s"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_eugenics
"Statens institut för rasbiologi (SIFR, Swedish: The State Institute for Racial Biology) was a Swedish governmental research institute founded in 1922 with the stated purpose of studying eugenics and human genetics. It was located in Uppsala and as a governmental agency, it was the world’s first of its kind"
Other ancient civilizations, such as Rome, Athens and Sparta, practiced infanticide through exposure and execution as a form of phenotypic selection. In Sparta, newborns were inspected by the city's elders, who decided the fate of the infant.
Trials for babies included bathing them in wine and exposing them to the elements. To Sparta, this would ensure only the strongest survived and procreated.
The Twelve Tables of Roman Law, established early in the formation of the Roman Republic, stated in the fourth table that deformed children must be put to death. In addition, patriarchs in Roman society were given the right to "discard" infants at their discretion. This was often done by drowning undesired newborns in the Tiber River. Commenting on the Roman practice of eugenics, the philosopher Seneca wrote that: "We put down mad dogs; we kill the wild, untamed ox; we use the knife on sick sheep to stop their infecting the flock; we destroy abnormal offspring at birth; children, too, if they are born weak or deformed, we drown. Yet this is not the work of anger, but of reason - to separate the sound from the worthless".[11] The practice of open infanticide in the Roman Empire did not subside until its Christianization.
"A few nations, notably Sweden and the Canadian province of Alberta, maintained large-scale eugenics programs, including forced sterilization of mentally handicapped individuals, as well as other practices, until the 1970s"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_eugenics
"Statens institut för rasbiologi (SIFR, Swedish: The State Institute for Racial Biology) was a Swedish governmental research institute founded in 1922 with the stated purpose of studying eugenics and human genetics. It was located in Uppsala and as a governmental agency, it was the world’s first of its kind"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_eugenics
16 May 2016 00:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Okey, can not edit it for some reason, to fix.. so will post just extra info here, as well:
Extra material:
"A fifth column is any group of people who undermine a larger group—such as a nation or a besieged city—from within, usually in favor of an enemy group or nation. The activities of a fifth column can be overt or clandestine. Forces gathered in secret can mobilize openly to assist an external attack. This term is also extended to organized actions by military personnel. Clandestine fifth column activities can involve acts of sabotage, disinformation, or espionage executed within defense lines by secret sympathizers with an external force."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column
They changed their public Logo.. read why.. :
"The Fabian Society founded the London School of Economics and Political Science in 1895 "for the betterment of society," now one of the leading institutions in the world, an incubator of influential politicians, economists, journalists, prime ministers and liberal billionaires"
"Today, the society functions primarily as a think tank and is one of 15 socialist societies affiliated with the Labour Party, Foundation for European Progressive Studies"
An explanatory note appearing on the title page of the group's first pamphlet declared:
"For the right moment you must wait, as Fabius did most patiently, when warring against Hannibal, though many censured his delays; but when the time comes you must strike hard, as Fabius did, or your waiting will be in vain, and fruitless."
According to author Jon Perdue, "The logo of the Fabian Society, a tortoise, represented the group’s predilection for a slow, imperceptible transition to socialism, while its coat of arms, a 'wolf in sheep’s clothing', represented its preferred methodology for achieving its goal." The wolf in sheep’s clothing symbolism was later abandoned, due to its obvious negative connotations.
Its nine founding members were Frank Podmore, Edward R. Pease, William Clarke, Hubert Bland, Percival Chubb, Frederick Keddell, H. H. Champion, Edith Nesbit, and Rosamund Dale Owen. Havelock Ellis is sometimes also mentioned as a tenth founding member.
In the early 1900s Fabian Society members advocated the ideal of a scientifically planned society and supported eugenics by way of sterilisation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Statesman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Socialism
Houston Stewart Chamberlain, "The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century", 1911":
"In this conflict it is not merely a question of the national secular State in opposition to the universal ecclesiastical State; wherever we meet universalism there anti-nationalism and anti-individualism are its necessary correlatives. Nor does it need to be conscious universalism, it is sufficient that an idea aims at something absolute, something limitless. Thus, for example, all consistently reasoned Socialism leads to the absolute State. To call Socialists point-blank “a party dangerous to the State,“ as is usually done, is only to give rise to one of those confusions of which our age is so fond. Certainly Socialism signifies a danger to the individual national States, as it does, on the whole, to the principle of individualism, but it is no danger to the idea of the State. It honestly admits its internationalism; its character is revealed, however, not in disintegration, but in a wonderfully developed organisation, copied, as it were, from a machine. In both points it betrays its affinity to Rome. In fact, it represents the same Catholic idea as the Church, although it grasps it by the other end. For that reason, too, there is no room in its system for individual freedom and diversity, for personal originality.
Ce qui lie tous les socialistes, c'est la haine de la liberté, ... as Flaubert says. * He who tears down the outward barriers, puts up inner ones. Socialism is imperialism in disguise; it will hardly be realisable without hierarchy and Primacy; in the Catholic Church it finds a pattern of socialistic, anti-individualistic organisation."
//sometimes, there was just different paramenters and future potential, what kind of sterilizaton to use, communist vision was to cure out "anti-communist gene's" from a future all people, with various methods (communist, liberals, socialists, "democrats") //
// "the Russia", Buzentine, Roman Thinrd empire, that is in most part idological around the world, is strongly fallowing Roman and Greek ideas, as this is only philosophy they accept, as it is not relgious. Greek-ROmans pre faters also try to imbreed their own race that would obay to their order but would be not submitted to the call of heart and relgious soul call or love. Mehanically making their own supperrace using women and man genetics. (in relgious science: IN SPIRIT, THESE BEINGS LET THEM SELF MAKE A NEAR HUMAN BODY AND USE THIS TO PRODUCE FORCEFULLY THEIR OFFSPRING THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY SUBMIT TO THEIRRULE LATER ON...but as they lack of knowladge of full life, they not jet still sure them self, how it works or works not, many times. )//
Extra material:
"A fifth column is any group of people who undermine a larger group—such as a nation or a besieged city—from within, usually in favor of an enemy group or nation. The activities of a fifth column can be overt or clandestine. Forces gathered in secret can mobilize openly to assist an external attack. This term is also extended to organized actions by military personnel. Clandestine fifth column activities can involve acts of sabotage, disinformation, or espionage executed within defense lines by secret sympathizers with an external force."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column
They changed their public Logo.. read why.. :
"The Fabian Society founded the London School of Economics and Political Science in 1895 "for the betterment of society," now one of the leading institutions in the world, an incubator of influential politicians, economists, journalists, prime ministers and liberal billionaires"
"Today, the society functions primarily as a think tank and is one of 15 socialist societies affiliated with the Labour Party, Foundation for European Progressive Studies"
An explanatory note appearing on the title page of the group's first pamphlet declared:
"For the right moment you must wait, as Fabius did most patiently, when warring against Hannibal, though many censured his delays; but when the time comes you must strike hard, as Fabius did, or your waiting will be in vain, and fruitless."
According to author Jon Perdue, "The logo of the Fabian Society, a tortoise, represented the group’s predilection for a slow, imperceptible transition to socialism, while its coat of arms, a 'wolf in sheep’s clothing', represented its preferred methodology for achieving its goal." The wolf in sheep’s clothing symbolism was later abandoned, due to its obvious negative connotations.
Its nine founding members were Frank Podmore, Edward R. Pease, William Clarke, Hubert Bland, Percival Chubb, Frederick Keddell, H. H. Champion, Edith Nesbit, and Rosamund Dale Owen. Havelock Ellis is sometimes also mentioned as a tenth founding member.
In the early 1900s Fabian Society members advocated the ideal of a scientifically planned society and supported eugenics by way of sterilisation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Statesman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Socialism
Houston Stewart Chamberlain, "The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century", 1911":
"In this conflict it is not merely a question of the national secular State in opposition to the universal ecclesiastical State; wherever we meet universalism there anti-nationalism and anti-individualism are its necessary correlatives. Nor does it need to be conscious universalism, it is sufficient that an idea aims at something absolute, something limitless. Thus, for example, all consistently reasoned Socialism leads to the absolute State. To call Socialists point-blank “a party dangerous to the State,“ as is usually done, is only to give rise to one of those confusions of which our age is so fond. Certainly Socialism signifies a danger to the individual national States, as it does, on the whole, to the principle of individualism, but it is no danger to the idea of the State. It honestly admits its internationalism; its character is revealed, however, not in disintegration, but in a wonderfully developed organisation, copied, as it were, from a machine. In both points it betrays its affinity to Rome. In fact, it represents the same Catholic idea as the Church, although it grasps it by the other end. For that reason, too, there is no room in its system for individual freedom and diversity, for personal originality.
Ce qui lie tous les socialistes, c'est la haine de la liberté, ... as Flaubert says. * He who tears down the outward barriers, puts up inner ones. Socialism is imperialism in disguise; it will hardly be realisable without hierarchy and Primacy; in the Catholic Church it finds a pattern of socialistic, anti-individualistic organisation."
//sometimes, there was just different paramenters and future potential, what kind of sterilizaton to use, communist vision was to cure out "anti-communist gene's" from a future all people, with various methods (communist, liberals, socialists, "democrats") //
// "the Russia", Buzentine, Roman Thinrd empire, that is in most part idological around the world, is strongly fallowing Roman and Greek ideas, as this is only philosophy they accept, as it is not relgious. Greek-ROmans pre faters also try to imbreed their own race that would obay to their order but would be not submitted to the call of heart and relgious soul call or love. Mehanically making their own supperrace using women and man genetics. (in relgious science: IN SPIRIT, THESE BEINGS LET THEM SELF MAKE A NEAR HUMAN BODY AND USE THIS TO PRODUCE FORCEFULLY THEIR OFFSPRING THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY SUBMIT TO THEIRRULE LATER ON...but as they lack of knowladge of full life, they not jet still sure them self, how it works or works not, many times. )//
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column
16 May 2016 00:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
15 May 2016 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kusjuures postituses ei olnud kirjaviga, (k-õrgema nõrgema, ) ega irooniat, sest tõepoolest, paljud noored lapsevanemad, ei suuda enam oma lapsegagi, kelle, uue elu mille imega uute siia ilma sisse tõid.. ei suudeta isegi temaga sügavat vestlust aretada.. ja .... võimas see jõud mis meist üle käis.
Vanal ajal vanemad ikka teatsid, ja vanavanemad veel enamgi, mida rääkida ja kuidas keelata.
"Eestlased ja eesti keel välismaal"
Koostanud ja toimetanud
Kristiina Praakli ja Jüri Viikberg
http://www.eki.ee/books/eekv/EEKV.pdf
Vanal ajal vanemad ikka teatsid, ja vanavanemad veel enamgi, mida rääkida ja kuidas keelata.
"Eestlased ja eesti keel välismaal"
Koostanud ja toimetanud
Kristiina Praakli ja Jüri Viikberg
http://www.eki.ee/books/eekv/EEKV.pdf
15 May 2016 23:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
At least they are waiting Girls for a car wash, that might still be a good thing in today's standards... [Pic: You gotta hand it to Mr Hammer: he keeps his car clean.]
From: Australia Political forum: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1460381319/105 where people argue:
"They are a good car. Good on gas. If you are p oo fters like John Smith and Pecca you could be driving a Hummer with mounted twin 50 calibre machine guns and everybody will still know they are po o f ters. They may as well have GIRLY BOYS tattooed into their foreheads with a rust razor blade.
--
Hummers are a crap car ... old technology. That's why GM made a motza out of them. They were cheap to build and idjuts like you would pay a fortune for them
--
No matter how much angry bark you have on your skin, steroid produced muscles, low toned masculine words etc etc etc people like you will always be seen as sissys. Your personality and social image even transcend words on a chat forum. You and Pecca are just your average beta males. You'll just have to live with it.
_____
But facebook did not allow to post the image that is the 3.rd post named : "You gotta hand it to Mr Hammer: he keeps his car clean."
I guess this is a good thing, in a way
From: Australia Political forum: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1460381319/105 where people argue:
"They are a good car. Good on gas. If you are p oo fters like John Smith and Pecca you could be driving a Hummer with mounted twin 50 calibre machine guns and everybody will still know they are po o f ters. They may as well have GIRLY BOYS tattooed into their foreheads with a rust razor blade.
--
Hummers are a crap car ... old technology. That's why GM made a motza out of them. They were cheap to build and idjuts like you would pay a fortune for them
--
No matter how much angry bark you have on your skin, steroid produced muscles, low toned masculine words etc etc etc people like you will always be seen as sissys. Your personality and social image even transcend words on a chat forum. You and Pecca are just your average beta males. You'll just have to live with it.
_____
But facebook did not allow to post the image that is the 3.rd post named : "You gotta hand it to Mr Hammer: he keeps his car clean."
I guess this is a good thing, in a way
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1460381319%2F105
15 May 2016 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Wardrip's photo.
Okey, i get it, it is .. an picture trick ?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10208472221658983&set=a.1108330584381.19132.1110319701&type=3
Looks realistic to me
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10208472221658983&set=a.1108330584381.19132.1110319701&type=3
Looks realistic to me
15 May 2016 22:28
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Wardrip's post.
J.C
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRv7BVEsk0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRv7BVEsk0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRv7BVEsk0w
15 May 2016 22:22
Margus Meigo commented on Merle Haggard's video.
Hoo, my Mother name is Merlé, common women name in Estonia :)
Good music,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JukqFurQRSg&list=RDJukqFurQRSg
With a big G
Good music,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JukqFurQRSg&list=RDJukqFurQRSg
With a big G
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JukqFurQRSg&list=RDJukqFurQRSg
15 May 2016 22:20
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Wardrip's photo.
Is there online Times link for that?
15 May 2016 22:14
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Wardrip's photo.
Harsh
15 May 2016 15:34
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Viisnurk on aga nii üle, igalpool, browserites, "lemmikute märkides", selebrati show, show tähtedega, stari showd... rahatähed, lipud, tänava "kaunistused", soomes selle liberaalse ülikooli vaheline plats (sadama juures), selles niipalju vaeva oli nähtud, et pentagramme südames hoida, et terve tänavakivid, olid raiutud pentagrammideks füüsiliselt, kaunistuseks... nu ja nii edasi ja nii edasi...
Sellised äkk provokatsioonid on lihtsalt neile eugeenikutest Greeka-Rooma eelsetele filosoof cyborgidele armsaks muigeks, samal ajal kui nende masinavärk 24/7 ....
Nendes filmides siin näete erinevaid liberaalide kauaaega oodatud ja suunatud unistuste tulevikke, kuidas inimenergiaid kasutada, st. see osa mis silmaga meile nähtavaks jääb:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tMXKQdc5ZM&list=PLKuzFhxtS9BFe0jGXQzge2o3tEH8chKpO
Sellised äkk provokatsioonid on lihtsalt neile eugeenikutest Greeka-Rooma eelsetele filosoof cyborgidele armsaks muigeks, samal ajal kui nende masinavärk 24/7 ....
Nendes filmides siin näete erinevaid liberaalide kauaaega oodatud ja suunatud unistuste tulevikke, kuidas inimenergiaid kasutada, st. see osa mis silmaga meile nähtavaks jääb:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tMXKQdc5ZM&list=PLKuzFhxtS9BFe0jGXQzge2o3tEH8chKpO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tMXKQdc5ZM&list=PLKuzFhxtS9BFe0jGXQzge2o3tEH8chKpO
15 May 2016 14:44
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Soosaar's post.
Eks kui viinaga tehtud siis peab proovima, kui muuks ei kõlba siis ära ikka kõlbab juua, arvab mõni :p
Kuid jah.. alkoholi muidu kätele hõõruda .. ei tea kas see kaudselt kehale - pähe ka hakkab
Kuid jah.. alkoholi muidu kätele hõõruda .. ei tea kas see kaudselt kehale - pähe ka hakkab
15 May 2016 14:36
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Man using Woman restroom is a Law long time ago now in many liberal communist invaded Schengen countries
Law, that man can use women restroom as long man lies or imagines that he is a woman, in fact,
it is demanded by liberal fascists in many arias that soviet union and eugenic liberals inbreed-ed, that mans's Latrine / pissoir / Urinal must be present in a WOMEN room so the freaks and confused ones, and the ones who are perverts wanting to walk and pretend them self "as women" would have right to take out their balls (that some of them cut off, as State will pay for that 100%) next to their child or while they do their women things.....
they call this "equality law" and it is big in USA also i heard, that "women" demanding to be "equal to a man" retarded slogans are also present and allowed in TV talks in there as well.. ,
equal to women..like that would be possible, ever..
The law should be that only beings with Utterus should be allowed to call, identify them self as Women, Female... as everything else is just imagination that can not be real as there is NO components and material to REALLY feel and be like a women, (but communists new front, will keep their old Greek-Roman perverted idea about humans, that it is all in the head, like in clones and cyborgs who's child's they are..)
in matriarch realization...
Law, that man can use women restroom as long man lies or imagines that he is a woman, in fact,
it is demanded by liberal fascists in many arias that soviet union and eugenic liberals inbreed-ed, that mans's Latrine / pissoir / Urinal must be present in a WOMEN room so the freaks and confused ones, and the ones who are perverts wanting to walk and pretend them self "as women" would have right to take out their balls (that some of them cut off, as State will pay for that 100%) next to their child or while they do their women things.....
they call this "equality law" and it is big in USA also i heard, that "women" demanding to be "equal to a man" retarded slogans are also present and allowed in TV talks in there as well.. ,
equal to women..like that would be possible, ever..
The law should be that only beings with Utterus should be allowed to call, identify them self as Women, Female... as everything else is just imagination that can not be real as there is NO components and material to REALLY feel and be like a women, (but communists new front, will keep their old Greek-Roman perverted idea about humans, that it is all in the head, like in clones and cyborgs who's child's they are..)
in matriarch realization...
15 May 2016 14:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Jamps, põhasi jäi pooleni, ei saanutki muud teha veel kuna aeg läks muuks : (
15 May 2016 14:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You can easily be socialist Manchurian Candidate,
this is what makes this world to worry about
this is what makes this world to worry about
15 May 2016 14:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire
15 May 2016 06:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc771470(v=ws.11).aspx
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc771470(v=ws.11).aspx
15 May 2016 06:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/14422-compare-windows-7-editions.html
UNIX based applications subsystem
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Enhancements
Windows Media Player multimedia redirection
Multi-Display Terminal Services
AppLocker Create Policies, But Cannot Enforce
UNIX based applications subsystem
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Enhancements
Windows Media Player multimedia redirection
Multi-Display Terminal Services
AppLocker Create Policies, But Cannot Enforce
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/14422-compare-windows-7-editions.html
15 May 2016 06:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Well, will fulfill my old dream to also make comparison of these topics.. perhaps someday..
Download any legal Microsoft Eestit OS without serial needed:
http://mirror.corenoc.de/digitalrivercontent.net/ _legal torrents
ISOs: http://www.youwindowsworld.com/en/downloads/operating-systems/windows-7/10300002-windows-7-home-premium-64-bits-english
Normal download with retail key: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows7
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15 May 2016 05:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
yeah, but my windows still looked cool as ewer 14 years ago (g3k picture albums of mine, lookup)
15 May 2016 05:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So as You can see.. if so much arguments about just one group of old people, then is high risk that pentagram is attempting to revert the history to keep accepted version running and suppress whatever might shake the history,
so task is now to separate intentional commie workers, from confused scientists and knowers... and then rewrite the truth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians
"The Scythian belief was a more archaic stage than the Zoroastrian and Hindu systems. The use of cannabis to induce trance and divination by soothsayers was a characteristic of the Scythian belief system."
"Excavation at kurgan Sengileevskoe-2 found gold bowls with coatings indicating a strong opium beverage was used while cannabis was burning nearby. The gold bowls depicted scenes showing clothing and weapons."
"Herodotus reports that Scythians used cannabis, both to weave their clothing and to cleanse themselves in its smoke (Hist. 4.73–75); archaeology has confirmed the use of cannabis in funeral rituals."
"The rich burials of Scythian kings in tumuli (often known by the Turkic name kurgan) is evidence for the existence of a powerful elite. While an elite clan is named in some classical sources[which?] as the "Royal Dahae", the Dahae proper are generally regarded as an extinct Indo-European people, who occupied what is now Turkmenistan, and were distinct from the Scythians."
Based in what is modern-day Ukraine, Southern European Russia, and Crimea, the western Scythians were ruled by a wealthy class known as the Royal Scyths. The Scythians established and controlled a vast trade network connecting Greece, Persia, India and China, perhaps contributing to the contemporary flourishing of those civilizations.
Scythians continued intervening in Middle Eastern affairs, playing a leading role in the destruction of the Assyrian Empire in the Sack of Nineveh in 612 BC. The Scythians subsequently engaged in frequent conflicts with the Achaemenid Empire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire
so task is now to separate intentional commie workers, from confused scientists and knowers... and then rewrite the truth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians
"The Scythian belief was a more archaic stage than the Zoroastrian and Hindu systems. The use of cannabis to induce trance and divination by soothsayers was a characteristic of the Scythian belief system."
"Excavation at kurgan Sengileevskoe-2 found gold bowls with coatings indicating a strong opium beverage was used while cannabis was burning nearby. The gold bowls depicted scenes showing clothing and weapons."
"Herodotus reports that Scythians used cannabis, both to weave their clothing and to cleanse themselves in its smoke (Hist. 4.73–75); archaeology has confirmed the use of cannabis in funeral rituals."
"The rich burials of Scythian kings in tumuli (often known by the Turkic name kurgan) is evidence for the existence of a powerful elite. While an elite clan is named in some classical sources[which?] as the "Royal Dahae", the Dahae proper are generally regarded as an extinct Indo-European people, who occupied what is now Turkmenistan, and were distinct from the Scythians."
Based in what is modern-day Ukraine, Southern European Russia, and Crimea, the western Scythians were ruled by a wealthy class known as the Royal Scyths. The Scythians established and controlled a vast trade network connecting Greece, Persia, India and China, perhaps contributing to the contemporary flourishing of those civilizations.
Scythians continued intervening in Middle Eastern affairs, playing a leading role in the destruction of the Assyrian Empire in the Sack of Nineveh in 612 BC. The Scythians subsequently engaged in frequent conflicts with the Achaemenid Empire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians
15 May 2016 05:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Israelites
Who keeps deleting my entry!--which I placed at the very end of the entry for Scythians? The entry which I keep inserting, and which someone keeps taking out, is titled "Claims of Israelite Ancestry." Who is deleting my work? My email address is internetsurferpaul@yahoo.com. I wish the person who keeps deleting my entry would contact me and explain their position. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Internetsurferpaul (talk • contribs) 07:21, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—that is, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true. Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed.
"Claims of Israelite Ancestry" provides no reliable sources where the material can be verified.
Bobanni (talk) 08:25, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
sigh, this is a very simple point. All it takes to "verify" is a quick visit to our British Israelism article. There, we have the exposition that Wilson adopted and promoted the "idea that the "European 'race', in particular the Anglo-Saxons, were descended from certain Scythian tribes, and these Scythian tribes (as many had previously stated from the Middle Ages onward) were in turn descended from the ten Lost Tribes of Israel." [Parfitt, Tudor (2003). The Lost Tribes of Israel: The History of a Myth. Phoenix. p. 54.]
There is absolutely no problem with putting as much under "descent-claims" in this article. I am really surprised that this wasn't already in the article. I thought it used to be. Perhaps we need to review the edit history for unnoted vandalism. I think I remember there used to be a much better explanation of the role of the Scythians in Sarmatism, Romantic nationalism etc. --dab (𒁳) 10:12, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
I would like to speak with the person who keeps deleting the material I have been trying to insert, at the very end of the article. That material was titled: "Claims of Israelite Ancestry." My email address is internetsurferpaul@yahoo.com. Please contact me as soon as you read this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Internetsurferpaul (talk • contribs) 18:09, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
you are speaking to this article's editors, right here on this page. Please read the comment above. --dab (𒁳) 19:24, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
J.P.Mallory - In Search of the Indo-Europeans, 1989 Thames and Hudson Ltd., London, ISBN 0-500-27616-1
Oswald Szemerényi, "Four old Iranian ethnic names: Scythian - Skudra - Sogdian - Saka" (Sitzungsberichte der Österreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften 371), Vienna, 1980 = Scripta minora, vol. 4, pp. 2051-2093. [14]
Sulimirski, T. "The Scyths" in Cambridge History of Iran, vol. 2: 149-99 [15]
Grousset, Rene. "The empire of the Steppes", Rutgers University Press, 1989, pg 19
Jacbonson, Esther. "The Art of Scythians", Brill Academic Publishers, 1995, pg 63 ISBN 90-04-09856-9
Gamkrelidze and Ivanov Indo-European and the Indo-Europeans: A Reconstruction and Historical Typological Analysis of a Proto-Language and Proto-Culture (Parts I and II). Tbilisi State University., 1984
Mallory, J.P. . In Search of the Indo-Europeans: Language Archeology and Myth. Thames and Hudson. Read Chapter 2 and see 51-53 for a quick reference.(1989)
Newark, T. The Barbarians: Warriors and wars of the Dark Ages. Blandford: New York. See pages 65, 85, 87, 119-139. ,1985
Renfrew, C. Archeology and Language: The Puzzle of Indo-European origins. Cambridge University Press, 1988
Abaev, V.I. and H.W. Bailey, "Alans," Encyclopaedia Iranica, Vol. 1. pp. 801-803.
Great Soviet Encyclopedia, (translation of the 3rd Russian-lanuguage edition), 31 vols., New York, 1973-1983.
Vogelsang, W J The rise & organisation of the Achaemenid empire – the eastern evidence (Studies in the History of the Ancient Near East Vol. III). Leiden: Brill. pp. 344., 1992 ISBN 90-04-09682-5.
Sinor, Denis. Inner Asia: History - Civilization - Languages, Routledge, 1997 pg 82 ISBN 0-7007-0896-0
"Scythian". (2006). In Encyclopædia Britannica. Retrieved September 7, 2006, from Encyclopædia Britannica Premium Service
Masica, Colin P. The Indo-Aryan Languages, Cambridge University Press, 1993, pg 48 ISBN 0-521-29944-6
Who keeps deleting my entry!--which I placed at the very end of the entry for Scythians? The entry which I keep inserting, and which someone keeps taking out, is titled "Claims of Israelite Ancestry." Who is deleting my work? My email address is internetsurferpaul@yahoo.com. I wish the person who keeps deleting my entry would contact me and explain their position. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Internetsurferpaul (talk • contribs) 07:21, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—that is, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true. Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed.
"Claims of Israelite Ancestry" provides no reliable sources where the material can be verified.
Bobanni (talk) 08:25, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
sigh, this is a very simple point. All it takes to "verify" is a quick visit to our British Israelism article. There, we have the exposition that Wilson adopted and promoted the "idea that the "European 'race', in particular the Anglo-Saxons, were descended from certain Scythian tribes, and these Scythian tribes (as many had previously stated from the Middle Ages onward) were in turn descended from the ten Lost Tribes of Israel." [Parfitt, Tudor (2003). The Lost Tribes of Israel: The History of a Myth. Phoenix. p. 54.]
There is absolutely no problem with putting as much under "descent-claims" in this article. I am really surprised that this wasn't already in the article. I thought it used to be. Perhaps we need to review the edit history for unnoted vandalism. I think I remember there used to be a much better explanation of the role of the Scythians in Sarmatism, Romantic nationalism etc. --dab (𒁳) 10:12, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
I would like to speak with the person who keeps deleting the material I have been trying to insert, at the very end of the article. That material was titled: "Claims of Israelite Ancestry." My email address is internetsurferpaul@yahoo.com. Please contact me as soon as you read this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Internetsurferpaul (talk • contribs) 18:09, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
you are speaking to this article's editors, right here on this page. Please read the comment above. --dab (𒁳) 19:24, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
J.P.Mallory - In Search of the Indo-Europeans, 1989 Thames and Hudson Ltd., London, ISBN 0-500-27616-1
Oswald Szemerényi, "Four old Iranian ethnic names: Scythian - Skudra - Sogdian - Saka" (Sitzungsberichte der Österreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften 371), Vienna, 1980 = Scripta minora, vol. 4, pp. 2051-2093. [14]
Sulimirski, T. "The Scyths" in Cambridge History of Iran, vol. 2: 149-99 [15]
Grousset, Rene. "The empire of the Steppes", Rutgers University Press, 1989, pg 19
Jacbonson, Esther. "The Art of Scythians", Brill Academic Publishers, 1995, pg 63 ISBN 90-04-09856-9
Gamkrelidze and Ivanov Indo-European and the Indo-Europeans: A Reconstruction and Historical Typological Analysis of a Proto-Language and Proto-Culture (Parts I and II). Tbilisi State University., 1984
Mallory, J.P. . In Search of the Indo-Europeans: Language Archeology and Myth. Thames and Hudson. Read Chapter 2 and see 51-53 for a quick reference.(1989)
Newark, T. The Barbarians: Warriors and wars of the Dark Ages. Blandford: New York. See pages 65, 85, 87, 119-139. ,1985
Renfrew, C. Archeology and Language: The Puzzle of Indo-European origins. Cambridge University Press, 1988
Abaev, V.I. and H.W. Bailey, "Alans," Encyclopaedia Iranica, Vol. 1. pp. 801-803.
Great Soviet Encyclopedia, (translation of the 3rd Russian-lanuguage edition), 31 vols., New York, 1973-1983.
Vogelsang, W J The rise & organisation of the Achaemenid empire – the eastern evidence (Studies in the History of the Ancient Near East Vol. III). Leiden: Brill. pp. 344., 1992 ISBN 90-04-09682-5.
Sinor, Denis. Inner Asia: History - Civilization - Languages, Routledge, 1997 pg 82 ISBN 0-7007-0896-0
"Scythian". (2006). In Encyclopædia Britannica. Retrieved September 7, 2006, from Encyclopædia Britannica Premium Service
Masica, Colin P. The Indo-Aryan Languages, Cambridge University Press, 1993, pg 48 ISBN 0-521-29944-6
15 May 2016 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The scythians came from the East of the Iranian plateau.
R1a* the direct ancestor to R1a1, is found in fair frequency among North Eastern Iran, while nearly absent in modern day Ukrainians. This certainly contridicts the Euro-centric claim that scythians came from the steepes. In, fact the diversity of r1a* is clearly higher in Iran and northern pakistan. Also, r1a1 is in higher frequency (AND diversity) in the 'south-east of iran', not the north-east. This is in conflict with the proposed migratory path into the plateau..
The fact that the scyths did not have any form of writing (if this is indeed the case. It has recently been questioned), does not necessairly contridict the idea that they were indigenous to iran. One has to wonder why a group such as the scyths would need to utilize a writing system to begin with.
In general, none of the proposed cultures ('Kurgan', 'Andronova', 'BMAC') share meaningful similarities with the early Iranian cultures. As the adminastrator of RacialReality blogged, "There is about as much evidence to claim the Plains Indians were the Proto-Iranians".
Oh well. You live with the best of the west.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Zadeh79 (talk • contribs) 20:04, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
#($I$
"The other bias in this article is that it aims to present a picture of the Scythians emanating from Iran"
No. The biased view, commonly upheld in the west, is that the ALL Iranian's (and other Caucasoids)originated in central Asia (or the steepes). There is simply no evidence for this. It's just a guess. The sheer amount of caucasoid haplogroups associated with the area surrounding the plateau, (YHG: Early R- likely R itself (Reguiro 2006), Haplogroup J (Quintana Murci), Haplogroup IJ, Haplogroup Q, Haplgroup G, Early I - MTDNA: n1a - found in scythian skeletons), autosomal phylogenetics (like the Cavalli-Sforza tree, "The History and geography of Human Genes"), and LGM climate maps suggest quite the opposite scenario. Specifically, that West Asia (particularly Iran) was a major(if not only) site of LGM Caucasoid evolution (cold adaption) . And that more than 85% of European genes can be attributed to a neolithic influx.
Why would the hordes migrate from north to south, when the climate was warming from south to north? When population densities in West Asia were approaching limits?
But with regards to the Scythians, The healthy R1a* frequency and deep diversity in Eastern Iran should alarm even the grandest of deludes, they were just earlier nomads of the plateau whom migrated northwards in search of land. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zadeh79 (talk • contribs) 20:27, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Haplogroups R1A, G, and Alleged Scythian connections
I noticed there has been alot of speculation as to which Y chromosome haplogroup was the predominant Scythian male lineage. Its worth discussing but I notice that there is some rather peculiar POV pushing, slighty implicit at times, though quite blatant at others. For instance why is G pushed a bit harder in the body of the article than R1a especially since its present day distribution does not in reality actually mirror historic Scythian settlement all that well. This can be seen from the fact that R1a is found at about 50% among present day males of the Altai Republic, an area which was a MAJOR settlement zone for the Scythians and home of the Parzyryk culture. G on the other hand appears to be virtually absent here. Also R1a IS found among modern day Ossetians though certainly at a severley minute frequency while G is in fact the dominant. Still couldn't there be a possibility that the Alan remnants who were probably small in number and sought refuge in the Caucasus were primarily of R1a though due to the proverbial genetic "role of the dice" had their lineage severly reduced by indigenous males from hg G who say may have adopted Alan ways and language? After all, as I understand it, G is actually a fairly distinct male marker of the Caucasus region and its spatial distribution outside this area is relatively minute. Therefore can it really even be considered Scythian at all (especially in lieu of the Altai Rep. observation)? But also compare and contrast for yourself:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=56946 (Well's "Eurasian Heartland" paper)
http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogroupsMaps.pdf (The "World Haplogroup Map")
Really though I question the overall validity of keeping the Y chromosome DNA discussion in the genetics section since neither R1a or G have explicitly been asigned to the Scythians based on modern population sampling or even via extraction from remains found in a Scythian cultural context by geneticists. Consider all this food for thought.Geog1 (talk) 20:29, 1 April 2008 (UTC)Geog1
Decided to remove all the info on Y-chromosome DNA since none of the scholarly sources cited have every stated any connections to the Scythians based on modern DNA sampling of males. The way the section was written basically was POV synth and was followed with the Oppenheimer quote which was also irrelevant and as I can see, based on how all of it was put together, hints at the Out of India theory.
Geog1 (talk) 15:04, 17 February 2009 (UTC)Geog1
Cosmos, You can't put info that is irrelevant to the topic in an article. This is an article about the Scythians not regional Y-chromosome distribution. None of these publications explicitly (or really implicitly) have anything to do with Scythian's and their DNA. Furthermore its POV synth. Geog1 (talk) 21:26, 17 February 2009 (UTC)Geog1
The late neoliths of West asia
Considering n1a is far more prevalent in west asia, and the r1a* diversity in eastern iran, I'm not sure how they find the central asian hypothesis remotely plausible anymore. Even haplogroup G appears West Asian. Without a doubt, the scythians were an independent late neolithic population, as were the associated YAZ, BMAC, and Andronovan's.
I am glad and thankful that someone else mentioned this. I've been talking about Ossetians and their haplogroup G and lack of R1a in nearly all Iranian wikipedia article:D I actually believe that diagnosis of R1a as Iranian maker is complete and outter B/S. --Ddd0dd (talk) 01:50, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
recent edit
I have reverted the edits of User:Orkhan ankara, for they were very obviously wrong and against the attached sources. Tājik (talk) 22:55, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
R1a* the direct ancestor to R1a1, is found in fair frequency among North Eastern Iran, while nearly absent in modern day Ukrainians. This certainly contridicts the Euro-centric claim that scythians came from the steepes. In, fact the diversity of r1a* is clearly higher in Iran and northern pakistan. Also, r1a1 is in higher frequency (AND diversity) in the 'south-east of iran', not the north-east. This is in conflict with the proposed migratory path into the plateau..
The fact that the scyths did not have any form of writing (if this is indeed the case. It has recently been questioned), does not necessairly contridict the idea that they were indigenous to iran. One has to wonder why a group such as the scyths would need to utilize a writing system to begin with.
In general, none of the proposed cultures ('Kurgan', 'Andronova', 'BMAC') share meaningful similarities with the early Iranian cultures. As the adminastrator of RacialReality blogged, "There is about as much evidence to claim the Plains Indians were the Proto-Iranians".
Oh well. You live with the best of the west.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Zadeh79 (talk • contribs) 20:04, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
#($I$
"The other bias in this article is that it aims to present a picture of the Scythians emanating from Iran"
No. The biased view, commonly upheld in the west, is that the ALL Iranian's (and other Caucasoids)originated in central Asia (or the steepes). There is simply no evidence for this. It's just a guess. The sheer amount of caucasoid haplogroups associated with the area surrounding the plateau, (YHG: Early R- likely R itself (Reguiro 2006), Haplogroup J (Quintana Murci), Haplogroup IJ, Haplogroup Q, Haplgroup G, Early I - MTDNA: n1a - found in scythian skeletons), autosomal phylogenetics (like the Cavalli-Sforza tree, "The History and geography of Human Genes"), and LGM climate maps suggest quite the opposite scenario. Specifically, that West Asia (particularly Iran) was a major(if not only) site of LGM Caucasoid evolution (cold adaption) . And that more than 85% of European genes can be attributed to a neolithic influx.
Why would the hordes migrate from north to south, when the climate was warming from south to north? When population densities in West Asia were approaching limits?
But with regards to the Scythians, The healthy R1a* frequency and deep diversity in Eastern Iran should alarm even the grandest of deludes, they were just earlier nomads of the plateau whom migrated northwards in search of land. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zadeh79 (talk • contribs) 20:27, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Haplogroups R1A, G, and Alleged Scythian connections
I noticed there has been alot of speculation as to which Y chromosome haplogroup was the predominant Scythian male lineage. Its worth discussing but I notice that there is some rather peculiar POV pushing, slighty implicit at times, though quite blatant at others. For instance why is G pushed a bit harder in the body of the article than R1a especially since its present day distribution does not in reality actually mirror historic Scythian settlement all that well. This can be seen from the fact that R1a is found at about 50% among present day males of the Altai Republic, an area which was a MAJOR settlement zone for the Scythians and home of the Parzyryk culture. G on the other hand appears to be virtually absent here. Also R1a IS found among modern day Ossetians though certainly at a severley minute frequency while G is in fact the dominant. Still couldn't there be a possibility that the Alan remnants who were probably small in number and sought refuge in the Caucasus were primarily of R1a though due to the proverbial genetic "role of the dice" had their lineage severly reduced by indigenous males from hg G who say may have adopted Alan ways and language? After all, as I understand it, G is actually a fairly distinct male marker of the Caucasus region and its spatial distribution outside this area is relatively minute. Therefore can it really even be considered Scythian at all (especially in lieu of the Altai Rep. observation)? But also compare and contrast for yourself:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=56946 (Well's "Eurasian Heartland" paper)
http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogroupsMaps.pdf (The "World Haplogroup Map")
Really though I question the overall validity of keeping the Y chromosome DNA discussion in the genetics section since neither R1a or G have explicitly been asigned to the Scythians based on modern population sampling or even via extraction from remains found in a Scythian cultural context by geneticists. Consider all this food for thought.Geog1 (talk) 20:29, 1 April 2008 (UTC)Geog1
Decided to remove all the info on Y-chromosome DNA since none of the scholarly sources cited have every stated any connections to the Scythians based on modern DNA sampling of males. The way the section was written basically was POV synth and was followed with the Oppenheimer quote which was also irrelevant and as I can see, based on how all of it was put together, hints at the Out of India theory.
Geog1 (talk) 15:04, 17 February 2009 (UTC)Geog1
Cosmos, You can't put info that is irrelevant to the topic in an article. This is an article about the Scythians not regional Y-chromosome distribution. None of these publications explicitly (or really implicitly) have anything to do with Scythian's and their DNA. Furthermore its POV synth. Geog1 (talk) 21:26, 17 February 2009 (UTC)Geog1
The late neoliths of West asia
Considering n1a is far more prevalent in west asia, and the r1a* diversity in eastern iran, I'm not sure how they find the central asian hypothesis remotely plausible anymore. Even haplogroup G appears West Asian. Without a doubt, the scythians were an independent late neolithic population, as were the associated YAZ, BMAC, and Andronovan's.
I am glad and thankful that someone else mentioned this. I've been talking about Ossetians and their haplogroup G and lack of R1a in nearly all Iranian wikipedia article:D I actually believe that diagnosis of R1a as Iranian maker is complete and outter B/S. --Ddd0dd (talk) 01:50, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
recent edit
I have reverted the edits of User:Orkhan ankara, for they were very obviously wrong and against the attached sources. Tājik (talk) 22:55, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=56946
15 May 2016 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Genetics
I edited the genetics section ( a month or so ago now) because it was too simplistic. I think it is a bit more plausible now. Hxseek 12:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
well, we are saying R1a1 and G2 have high coincidence with Scythian presence but cannot be used for one-to-one identification. There is no need to harp on the questionable validity of concepts of "ethnicity" here. What we want are genetic studies directly addressing the Scythians, not unreferenced hand-waving about the likelihood of R1a1 or G2 descending from a Scythian ancestor. dab (𒁳) 13:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I concur Hxseek 00:33, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
I've never seen "as in" used synonymously w/ also. It's really an equating expression as they are equating SE Eurasian steppe land w/ Iran. If they really meant "also" then I'd suspect they just would have left out "as in" altogether. Also I don't think N1a is found that far east in Asia at present. According to "mtDNA Haplogroup Specific Control region Mutation Motifs" reference it's not found there at all which can be obtained from the following site: http://mtmanager.yonsei.ac.kr. The study in question itself also dosen't provide any stats for an N1a frequency in lands that would fall under the category of "SE steppe land" which further leads me to conclude they made a mistake here. Geog1 (talk) 16:45, 7 February 2008 (UTC)Geog1
I agree this sentence is confusing, since "as" [13] could be read either way, as "to the same degree, amount, or extent; similarly; equally", or as "for example; for instance".
Haplogroup N1a is, however, more frequent in the populations of the southeastern region of the Eurasian steppe, as in Iran and southeastern India
In the first meaning "as" would be a comparison rather than an equation. I don't think the autor meant anything else, for then indeed this would point to a geographic error. I would not go as far as to insinuate the utter absence of data for making such a statement in a scientific publication. However, if you have other publications at your disposal that uphold other information then you could add this separately to the article. Rokus01 (talk) 17:44, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Actually they say this a line or two below the table:
The N1a haplogroup was not observed among the native American, east Asian, Siberian, Central Asian, and western European populations.
Again it appears they have in fact made a geographical error of sorts. Geog1 (talk) 18:32, 7 February 2008 (UTC)Geog1
It all depends on the definition of Central Asia. By common "modern" (?) definition I figure it would not include the southeastern region of the Eurasian steppe: like Afghanistan? Rokus01 (talk) 21:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
For the territorial extent of the Eurasian steppe belt see Britannica's map:
http://www.britannica.com/eb/art-3658/Extent-of-the-Eurasian-steppes
Afghanistan would not be steppe land at all according to the map. South eastern steppe land would be parts of Mongolia and Manchuria. These two places are often lumped into the East Asian category but sometimes Mongolia will fall under Central Asia categorically as well.
For what "commonly" is considered Central Asia refer to this map:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/commonwealth/central_asian_common_2002.jpg
Note that Afghanistan is not considered Central Asian but occasionally it is included. Sometimes it is lumped in w/ the Middle East but more traditional maps (like the one in my World Book) will designate Iran as the most eastern extent of the Middle East. Regardless it's not steppe land and if it were it certaintly wouldn't be south eastern steppe land either.
Geog1 (talk) 06:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)Geog1
Late Antiquity, Vigilius
Attila ordered the execution of Vigilius.
This statement should either be removed (I believe that it's irrelevant) or explained more deeply. According to Gibbon, Vigilius bought his life for two hundred pounds of gold. From The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Volume III - Chapter XXXIV:
But the rashness of Vigilius will appear still more extraordinary, since he returned, conscious of his guilt and danger, to the royal camp, accompanied by his son, and carrying with him a weighty purse of gold, which the favorite eunuch had furnished, to satisfy the demands of Edecon, and to corrupt the fidelity of the guards. The interpreter was instantly seized, and dragged before the tribunal of Attila, where he asserted his innocence with specious firmness, till the threat of inflicting instant death on his son extorted from him a sincere discovery of the criminal transaction. Under the name of ransom, or confiscation, the rapacious king of the Huns accepted two hundred pounds of gold for the life of a traitor, whom he disdained to punish.
I edited the genetics section ( a month or so ago now) because it was too simplistic. I think it is a bit more plausible now. Hxseek 12:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
well, we are saying R1a1 and G2 have high coincidence with Scythian presence but cannot be used for one-to-one identification. There is no need to harp on the questionable validity of concepts of "ethnicity" here. What we want are genetic studies directly addressing the Scythians, not unreferenced hand-waving about the likelihood of R1a1 or G2 descending from a Scythian ancestor. dab (𒁳) 13:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I concur Hxseek 00:33, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
I've never seen "as in" used synonymously w/ also. It's really an equating expression as they are equating SE Eurasian steppe land w/ Iran. If they really meant "also" then I'd suspect they just would have left out "as in" altogether. Also I don't think N1a is found that far east in Asia at present. According to "mtDNA Haplogroup Specific Control region Mutation Motifs" reference it's not found there at all which can be obtained from the following site: http://mtmanager.yonsei.ac.kr. The study in question itself also dosen't provide any stats for an N1a frequency in lands that would fall under the category of "SE steppe land" which further leads me to conclude they made a mistake here. Geog1 (talk) 16:45, 7 February 2008 (UTC)Geog1
I agree this sentence is confusing, since "as" [13] could be read either way, as "to the same degree, amount, or extent; similarly; equally", or as "for example; for instance".
Haplogroup N1a is, however, more frequent in the populations of the southeastern region of the Eurasian steppe, as in Iran and southeastern India
In the first meaning "as" would be a comparison rather than an equation. I don't think the autor meant anything else, for then indeed this would point to a geographic error. I would not go as far as to insinuate the utter absence of data for making such a statement in a scientific publication. However, if you have other publications at your disposal that uphold other information then you could add this separately to the article. Rokus01 (talk) 17:44, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Actually they say this a line or two below the table:
The N1a haplogroup was not observed among the native American, east Asian, Siberian, Central Asian, and western European populations.
Again it appears they have in fact made a geographical error of sorts. Geog1 (talk) 18:32, 7 February 2008 (UTC)Geog1
It all depends on the definition of Central Asia. By common "modern" (?) definition I figure it would not include the southeastern region of the Eurasian steppe: like Afghanistan? Rokus01 (talk) 21:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
For the territorial extent of the Eurasian steppe belt see Britannica's map:
http://www.britannica.com/eb/art-3658/Extent-of-the-Eurasian-steppes
Afghanistan would not be steppe land at all according to the map. South eastern steppe land would be parts of Mongolia and Manchuria. These two places are often lumped into the East Asian category but sometimes Mongolia will fall under Central Asia categorically as well.
For what "commonly" is considered Central Asia refer to this map:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/commonwealth/central_asian_common_2002.jpg
Note that Afghanistan is not considered Central Asian but occasionally it is included. Sometimes it is lumped in w/ the Middle East but more traditional maps (like the one in my World Book) will designate Iran as the most eastern extent of the Middle East. Regardless it's not steppe land and if it were it certaintly wouldn't be south eastern steppe land either.
Geog1 (talk) 06:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)Geog1
Late Antiquity, Vigilius
Attila ordered the execution of Vigilius.
This statement should either be removed (I believe that it's irrelevant) or explained more deeply. According to Gibbon, Vigilius bought his life for two hundred pounds of gold. From The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Volume III - Chapter XXXIV:
But the rashness of Vigilius will appear still more extraordinary, since he returned, conscious of his guilt and danger, to the royal camp, accompanied by his son, and carrying with him a weighty purse of gold, which the favorite eunuch had furnished, to satisfy the demands of Edecon, and to corrupt the fidelity of the guards. The interpreter was instantly seized, and dragged before the tribunal of Attila, where he asserted his innocence with specious firmness, till the threat of inflicting instant death on his son extorted from him a sincere discovery of the criminal transaction. Under the name of ransom, or confiscation, the rapacious king of the Huns accepted two hundred pounds of gold for the life of a traitor, whom he disdained to punish.
http://mtmanager.yonsei.ac.kr/
15 May 2016 04:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
How come they didn't write ?
Herodotos transliteration
Gentlemen. I know at least one group of people who have never claimed to be of Scythic origin. They are all Finno Ugrian peoples who lived in the vast plain of Eastern Europe by the time when Herodotos wrote his history c. 450 - 430 BC. The Scythic influence has been discovered in many burial sites and they had large trade connections with the Scythians who lived south of Finno Ugrian (Rha - Permian - Uralic) tribes. The fur trade between the coniferous forest zone via steppe zone to the Greek colonies located in the north shore of Black Sea was mainly carried out by ethnic Hellenic Gelons who have settled to the lands of Budini (Vudini). And it was a big business by that time. Rha was the main trading route toward Caspian Sea and beyond. However, at least according the Finnish transliteration of Herodotos: Historia Gelons were not Scythians. They came from Hellenic trade posts and settled to the coniferous forest zone to the place named Gelonos. This place was surrounded by wooden wall. Each side 30 stadion (one stadion = 192 metre) long. Their houses were built from wood, also their temples, altars and Hellenic Goods statues. Peharps nobody here has heard of ancient Finno Ugrian habit called Trade Peace which allowed dealers and traders of other nations to settle in specific trading places among the original people. In this case Budins which were tall, mainly blue eyed and fair heared. They lived east of Androfags (Mordvians) and Melanklains (Meris and Maris). About seven day trip east of Budins lived Thyssageths (Magyars) and Iurkis (Jugras) which correspond Ugrians living at western Urals area. Herodotos Thyssageths may origin from Tshus (Tsusovaja) River which is known to be inhabited by riding Magyars tribes by that time, before moving further south. And as Herodotos clerarly pionts out the list of peoples living behind the Scythians are based what Greek traders in Black Sea Greek colonies told him. Persian King Dareios I started war against the Scythians and his army marched here and there after the Scythians who avoided the battle with the Persians. Dareios managed to capture and burn Gelonos 513 BC. The Finno Ugrians in the area seems to have been allied with the Scythians in this war against the Persians. Thus Budins were pre Udmurts (Permians) who lived north of Kama and Rha (Valgia / Volga) confluence in forest zone. However, only part of this 30 stadion walled square of Gelonos was used as settlement. It was a place where wild fur animals were collected (as wild reinders) for next year sales inside the walled area (compare Reinder palings) for the southern customers Scythians from Kuban and Greek city of Olbia which was under Scythian protection.
Large quantities of furs, honey and other products were obtained through barter from the tribes of central forest zone. Finnish tribes of the upper Volga and the Kama valley acuired bronze toos from the Scythians in exchange of furs. Enourmous heaps of bones from fur-bearing animals neat the Finnish settlements suggest that the Volga was already a trade -Route between forest amd steppe.
Belsk theory is interesting but it is located in too southern location to be Gelonos. May be this was the Scythian capital but not named Gelonos. As far as I know the Scythian capital was at first Panticapaeum at the mouth of Istros (Danube) and moved c. 300 BC to Neapolis (close to the modern town of Simferopol) in the Crimea. Neapolis was forty acres in area and surrounded by a stone wall, eight to thirteen metre thick, surmonted by towers. It contained many stone buildings, with tiled roofs. In the residential quarter of the town, the houses were built around courtyards.
It has been said that Scythian King Scylas was the first nomand to live in house, in the trading and manufacturing town of Olbia.
As an interesting small little known detail, Eino Kuussaari in his "Suomen Suvun Tiet" p 62 shows the most southernmost Finno - Ugrian settlements inside the Scythia as Harkova, Mereva, Poltava, Kotelva, Sumi, Sudzha, Peni and Objan. All just inside the steppe forest area (Arometsiköt).
JN
I've read some material that says they are related cultures, but there is already a Wikipedia article for Finno-Ugric peoples. In the article, these people are defined by their languages. There are a lot of questions left to answer regarding the Scythian/Scytho-Siberian/Central Asian Steppe peoples, and much research needs to be done before these connections can be safely made. TeamZissou 18:53, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Herodotos transliteration
Gentlemen. I know at least one group of people who have never claimed to be of Scythic origin. They are all Finno Ugrian peoples who lived in the vast plain of Eastern Europe by the time when Herodotos wrote his history c. 450 - 430 BC. The Scythic influence has been discovered in many burial sites and they had large trade connections with the Scythians who lived south of Finno Ugrian (Rha - Permian - Uralic) tribes. The fur trade between the coniferous forest zone via steppe zone to the Greek colonies located in the north shore of Black Sea was mainly carried out by ethnic Hellenic Gelons who have settled to the lands of Budini (Vudini). And it was a big business by that time. Rha was the main trading route toward Caspian Sea and beyond. However, at least according the Finnish transliteration of Herodotos: Historia Gelons were not Scythians. They came from Hellenic trade posts and settled to the coniferous forest zone to the place named Gelonos. This place was surrounded by wooden wall. Each side 30 stadion (one stadion = 192 metre) long. Their houses were built from wood, also their temples, altars and Hellenic Goods statues. Peharps nobody here has heard of ancient Finno Ugrian habit called Trade Peace which allowed dealers and traders of other nations to settle in specific trading places among the original people. In this case Budins which were tall, mainly blue eyed and fair heared. They lived east of Androfags (Mordvians) and Melanklains (Meris and Maris). About seven day trip east of Budins lived Thyssageths (Magyars) and Iurkis (Jugras) which correspond Ugrians living at western Urals area. Herodotos Thyssageths may origin from Tshus (Tsusovaja) River which is known to be inhabited by riding Magyars tribes by that time, before moving further south. And as Herodotos clerarly pionts out the list of peoples living behind the Scythians are based what Greek traders in Black Sea Greek colonies told him. Persian King Dareios I started war against the Scythians and his army marched here and there after the Scythians who avoided the battle with the Persians. Dareios managed to capture and burn Gelonos 513 BC. The Finno Ugrians in the area seems to have been allied with the Scythians in this war against the Persians. Thus Budins were pre Udmurts (Permians) who lived north of Kama and Rha (Valgia / Volga) confluence in forest zone. However, only part of this 30 stadion walled square of Gelonos was used as settlement. It was a place where wild fur animals were collected (as wild reinders) for next year sales inside the walled area (compare Reinder palings) for the southern customers Scythians from Kuban and Greek city of Olbia which was under Scythian protection.
Large quantities of furs, honey and other products were obtained through barter from the tribes of central forest zone. Finnish tribes of the upper Volga and the Kama valley acuired bronze toos from the Scythians in exchange of furs. Enourmous heaps of bones from fur-bearing animals neat the Finnish settlements suggest that the Volga was already a trade -Route between forest amd steppe.
Belsk theory is interesting but it is located in too southern location to be Gelonos. May be this was the Scythian capital but not named Gelonos. As far as I know the Scythian capital was at first Panticapaeum at the mouth of Istros (Danube) and moved c. 300 BC to Neapolis (close to the modern town of Simferopol) in the Crimea. Neapolis was forty acres in area and surrounded by a stone wall, eight to thirteen metre thick, surmonted by towers. It contained many stone buildings, with tiled roofs. In the residential quarter of the town, the houses were built around courtyards.
It has been said that Scythian King Scylas was the first nomand to live in house, in the trading and manufacturing town of Olbia.
As an interesting small little known detail, Eino Kuussaari in his "Suomen Suvun Tiet" p 62 shows the most southernmost Finno - Ugrian settlements inside the Scythia as Harkova, Mereva, Poltava, Kotelva, Sumi, Sudzha, Peni and Objan. All just inside the steppe forest area (Arometsiköt).
JN
I've read some material that says they are related cultures, but there is already a Wikipedia article for Finno-Ugric peoples. In the article, these people are defined by their languages. There are a lot of questions left to answer regarding the Scythian/Scytho-Siberian/Central Asian Steppe peoples, and much research needs to be done before these connections can be safely made. TeamZissou 18:53, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
the Atestation of Scythian languge
Please show a Scythian language literature is all attestation based on one inscription which may be Scythian. Ops sorry there is another inscription butt nobody have an idea what it mean wink emoticon Look into Scythian language my question is who knows unquestionably Scythian literature? Nasz 20:41, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Personal names, deities, rivers.. are attestation of language. There are verifiable, scholarly and sourced items in this article and they should be looked into for further details to satisfy your inquiry. --alidoostzadeh 20:54, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
your editing behaviour at present is unacceptable, Nasz. You are wildly inserting nonsensical stuff in broken English, forcing people to waste time cleaning up after you. Uploading vandalised images without attribution like here is the last straw. dab (𒁳) 08:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
i dont think so or even soo. From previous discusion with you Dab i know you are dogmatic. Answer me - Do you cary for truth ? Nasz 10:41, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
the image i say is more corect. What do you say ?
I am dogmatic about quality, not content. Edit encyclopedically and grammatically, and you won't have a problem with me. dab (𒁳) 14:10, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Nasz, your edits are not clear at all and people will start thinking you are a vandal. Won't it be better to propose your changes first at Talk? I think you are trying to say that Scythians in reality roamed a much more extended area including areas to the North West and to the far East, and that it is not sure what language they spoke. An argument in favour to the first are traces of Iranian languages in Slavic, Uralic and Turk languages, however, this would be in contradiction to your second assumption (although it has to be clear the Scythians were not the only Iranian people roaming the steppes: the Iranian presence has a long history here). An argument in favour of your second assumption is that nobody has ever sufficiently and convincingly sourced statements to the contrary. I am convinced this items will continue to pop up and be a source of discontent at this very page, and to irritation and warfare as well, as long as this elements are not included, even shunned or banned. It should be cristal clear that Scythians from the moment they first mounted their horses were exposed to international contacts, extensive mixture and absorption into Slavic, Turkic and whatsoever cultures until they ceased to exist as a people with a separate language: just like what happened to the Franks and the Normans. So to all: Archeological evidence is straightforward, but linguistic evidence is poor: I don't think it is prudent to insist on an unequivocal Iranian identity, especially not in the later stages, and would like to plead for inserting indications that Scythian tribes probably had merged with Turkish tribes at an early stage, and also had settled within Slavic territories to merge with the people living there. Rokus01 15:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
I think only scholarly sources should be mentioned and there won't be a problem with people's intrepretation and etc. There are remnants of tribes called Sakavand in Persia still and there are some Iranian dialects in China that deserve a closer look. Anyways if people have sources, they should bring them, but intrepretations should not be allowed. I agree scythians merged with slavs, germans (through Alans), turkic, uralic and even Tocharians and etc. But these people came later. Turkic groups appeared in central asia much later. Slavs also appeared much later. Germans too. There is no group that is not mixed really. There could be a section on Scythian diffusion amongst other people (we even find Alans in France and England), but it should be properly sourced and the references from the begining about the original scythians and their language and etc. should not be removed. Every once in a while we get someone here claiming the original scythians were Slavic or Turkic or Uralic or whatever. Scholars today base on very clear etymology plus physical looks (with the exception of Slavics who are caucasoid) have more than enough linguistic and archeological evidence for Iranian claim. Also groups like Sogdians and Chorasmians were either scythians originally (Sogd is actually cognate of scyth) or spoke very close dialects to these two. So a small subsection on groups that Scythians effected is more than welcome and I have some information actually with regards to both Slavic and Turkic and Uralic groups which I might bring later on. --alidoostzadeh 02:50, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Please show a Scythian language literature is all attestation based on one inscription which may be Scythian. Ops sorry there is another inscription butt nobody have an idea what it mean wink emoticon Look into Scythian language my question is who knows unquestionably Scythian literature? Nasz 20:41, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Personal names, deities, rivers.. are attestation of language. There are verifiable, scholarly and sourced items in this article and they should be looked into for further details to satisfy your inquiry. --alidoostzadeh 20:54, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
your editing behaviour at present is unacceptable, Nasz. You are wildly inserting nonsensical stuff in broken English, forcing people to waste time cleaning up after you. Uploading vandalised images without attribution like here is the last straw. dab (𒁳) 08:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
i dont think so or even soo. From previous discusion with you Dab i know you are dogmatic. Answer me - Do you cary for truth ? Nasz 10:41, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
the image i say is more corect. What do you say ?
I am dogmatic about quality, not content. Edit encyclopedically and grammatically, and you won't have a problem with me. dab (𒁳) 14:10, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Nasz, your edits are not clear at all and people will start thinking you are a vandal. Won't it be better to propose your changes first at Talk? I think you are trying to say that Scythians in reality roamed a much more extended area including areas to the North West and to the far East, and that it is not sure what language they spoke. An argument in favour to the first are traces of Iranian languages in Slavic, Uralic and Turk languages, however, this would be in contradiction to your second assumption (although it has to be clear the Scythians were not the only Iranian people roaming the steppes: the Iranian presence has a long history here). An argument in favour of your second assumption is that nobody has ever sufficiently and convincingly sourced statements to the contrary. I am convinced this items will continue to pop up and be a source of discontent at this very page, and to irritation and warfare as well, as long as this elements are not included, even shunned or banned. It should be cristal clear that Scythians from the moment they first mounted their horses were exposed to international contacts, extensive mixture and absorption into Slavic, Turkic and whatsoever cultures until they ceased to exist as a people with a separate language: just like what happened to the Franks and the Normans. So to all: Archeological evidence is straightforward, but linguistic evidence is poor: I don't think it is prudent to insist on an unequivocal Iranian identity, especially not in the later stages, and would like to plead for inserting indications that Scythian tribes probably had merged with Turkish tribes at an early stage, and also had settled within Slavic territories to merge with the people living there. Rokus01 15:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
I think only scholarly sources should be mentioned and there won't be a problem with people's intrepretation and etc. There are remnants of tribes called Sakavand in Persia still and there are some Iranian dialects in China that deserve a closer look. Anyways if people have sources, they should bring them, but intrepretations should not be allowed. I agree scythians merged with slavs, germans (through Alans), turkic, uralic and even Tocharians and etc. But these people came later. Turkic groups appeared in central asia much later. Slavs also appeared much later. Germans too. There is no group that is not mixed really. There could be a section on Scythian diffusion amongst other people (we even find Alans in France and England), but it should be properly sourced and the references from the begining about the original scythians and their language and etc. should not be removed. Every once in a while we get someone here claiming the original scythians were Slavic or Turkic or Uralic or whatever. Scholars today base on very clear etymology plus physical looks (with the exception of Slavics who are caucasoid) have more than enough linguistic and archeological evidence for Iranian claim. Also groups like Sogdians and Chorasmians were either scythians originally (Sogd is actually cognate of scyth) or spoke very close dialects to these two. So a small subsection on groups that Scythians effected is more than welcome and I have some information actually with regards to both Slavic and Turkic and Uralic groups which I might bring later on. --alidoostzadeh 02:50, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
whats going on
I intending to add sorce text of litopys Nasz 05:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Don't you have a translation? Rokus01 09:01, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
britannica
I have copied the relevant britannica articles about Scythians for anyone who is interested. --alidoostzadeh 22:28, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Why should anybody argue with someone who even flouts a third opinion. I can hardly take you serious. So now I have to prove to you Britannica's 15th edition is a valid source? So now I have to ask another third opinion about your collection of copies, to tell this copies don't contradict the original Britannica, nor any of my statements above? You are wrong in all possible ways, but Wikipedia does not have any defense against trolls, nationalists and personal desires or determination to destroy information. Wikipedia is a public source that can be disrupted by people like you. This article is teinted, abused, unscientific, superficial, naïve, ignorant and in need a peer review very badly. Be happy and buy yourself a drink. Rokus01 14:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Please end the personal attack. If you want to quote Britannica quote it directly without adding any interpretations. --alidoostzadeh 00:30, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
You are not giving any answer. Probably you think it is easier to revert and get away with it. In this, you definitely have an edge to serious users. Rokus01 18:36, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
I said that when you quote Britannica do not add your opinion. --alidoostzadeh 02:42, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Straw Poll 1
Should the text read "Scholars generally classify the Scythian language as a member of the East Iranian branch, and the Scythians as a branch of the Ancient Iranian peoples expanding into Greater Iran from around 1000 BCE." or "Scholars generally classify the Scythian language as a member of the East Iranian branch, and the Scythians as a branch of the Ancient Iranian peoples expanding into the steppe regions north of Greater Iran from around 1000 BCE.--Natl1 (Talk Page) (Contribs) 16:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Version 1 (the first one)
Version 2 (the second one)
Rokus01 16:24, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Comments
"Greater Iran" is the area once covered by Iranian empires and has no bearing with the Scythians nor the attested origins of the East Iranian languages, thus does not even need to be mentioned at all. My vote just involves the correctness of the geographical location. Rokus01 16:24, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
versions are not identified clearly --Rayis 10:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I intending to add sorce text of litopys Nasz 05:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Don't you have a translation? Rokus01 09:01, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
britannica
I have copied the relevant britannica articles about Scythians for anyone who is interested. --alidoostzadeh 22:28, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Why should anybody argue with someone who even flouts a third opinion. I can hardly take you serious. So now I have to prove to you Britannica's 15th edition is a valid source? So now I have to ask another third opinion about your collection of copies, to tell this copies don't contradict the original Britannica, nor any of my statements above? You are wrong in all possible ways, but Wikipedia does not have any defense against trolls, nationalists and personal desires or determination to destroy information. Wikipedia is a public source that can be disrupted by people like you. This article is teinted, abused, unscientific, superficial, naïve, ignorant and in need a peer review very badly. Be happy and buy yourself a drink. Rokus01 14:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Please end the personal attack. If you want to quote Britannica quote it directly without adding any interpretations. --alidoostzadeh 00:30, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
You are not giving any answer. Probably you think it is easier to revert and get away with it. In this, you definitely have an edge to serious users. Rokus01 18:36, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
I said that when you quote Britannica do not add your opinion. --alidoostzadeh 02:42, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Straw Poll 1
Should the text read "Scholars generally classify the Scythian language as a member of the East Iranian branch, and the Scythians as a branch of the Ancient Iranian peoples expanding into Greater Iran from around 1000 BCE." or "Scholars generally classify the Scythian language as a member of the East Iranian branch, and the Scythians as a branch of the Ancient Iranian peoples expanding into the steppe regions north of Greater Iran from around 1000 BCE.--Natl1 (Talk Page) (Contribs) 16:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Version 1 (the first one)
Version 2 (the second one)
Rokus01 16:24, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Comments
"Greater Iran" is the area once covered by Iranian empires and has no bearing with the Scythians nor the attested origins of the East Iranian languages, thus does not even need to be mentioned at all. My vote just involves the correctness of the geographical location. Rokus01 16:24, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
versions are not identified clearly --Rayis 10:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So, why are you boring me and other people with your peculiar and outspoken interpretations and exclusions? You are not a scholar, and if you were your university level system is thoroughly corrupted. You don't seem to understand the impact of scientific research or realize what scientific approaches you are ignoring. There is no such thing as an established fact about this subject. To the contrary, a lot is in dispute and needs further investigation. So please, since you don't have a valid view and obviously are trolling around in order to propagate our ridiculous shortsighted and unscientific nationalist "Greater Iranic" POV, I ask you kindly to restrain from further vandalizing on this subject. Rokus01 14:02, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
First fix up your grammer and spelling and stop the long boring diatribe and personal attacks which has no bearing on the discussion. The last thing you are is scientific with your anus and anar etymological connection or claiming Harmatta made up the word Saka after the day I sent barefact an e-mail which includes parts of Harmatta's article on Issyk! Secondly bring the relevant Britannica links (they are online) with proper date and reference! Third as shown above you wanted to remove Britannica so don't try to fool users as they are not stupid as you think they are. Third it is good to see that you back off from your weak position that Britannica needs to be deleted. Looks like many readers including me did not agree with your two-way tactic of deletion and insertion of Brtiannica when it suited your needs.
The R1a1 marker is too old for being a valid marker to distinguish Scythians from neighboring people. The marker is rather linked to the early kurgans and Yamna culture. The Scythians were certainly linked to this cultures, but so are a lot of other people. Rokus01 08:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC) _______________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________ The Ossetians are most certainly not the last of the Alans by any means. The last as a collective people, perhaps, but given that the Alans spread clear down into Northern Africa and into the UK, it cannot be said that they are no more. I speak as a descendant of these people with a clearly Anglicized version of the surname "Alan" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alans We're everywhere.
whats going on
I intending to add sorce text of litopys Nasz 05:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Don't you have a translation? Rokus01 09:01, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
First fix up your grammer and spelling and stop the long boring diatribe and personal attacks which has no bearing on the discussion. The last thing you are is scientific with your anus and anar etymological connection or claiming Harmatta made up the word Saka after the day I sent barefact an e-mail which includes parts of Harmatta's article on Issyk! Secondly bring the relevant Britannica links (they are online) with proper date and reference! Third as shown above you wanted to remove Britannica so don't try to fool users as they are not stupid as you think they are. Third it is good to see that you back off from your weak position that Britannica needs to be deleted. Looks like many readers including me did not agree with your two-way tactic of deletion and insertion of Brtiannica when it suited your needs.
The R1a1 marker is too old for being a valid marker to distinguish Scythians from neighboring people. The marker is rather linked to the early kurgans and Yamna culture. The Scythians were certainly linked to this cultures, but so are a lot of other people. Rokus01 08:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC) _______________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________ The Ossetians are most certainly not the last of the Alans by any means. The last as a collective people, perhaps, but given that the Alans spread clear down into Northern Africa and into the UK, it cannot be said that they are no more. I speak as a descendant of these people with a clearly Anglicized version of the surname "Alan" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alans We're everywhere.
whats going on
I intending to add sorce text of litopys Nasz 05:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Don't you have a translation? Rokus01 09:01, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alans
15 May 2016 04:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Now lets just analyze some stuff you said which contradicts Britannica. For example: Ossetic is the modern descendant of the language of the ancient Alani, a Sarmatian people....[10] which already contradicts one of your assertions. So bring proper links and don't make Britannica speak in your image. I have access to all the Britannica article through and I can access them next week. I will copy and paste all the ones relevant to Scythian here on tuesday. Despite your claim that there are multiple hypothesis, there are none by scholars which is what counts. By the way Alans were direct continuation of Scythians according to Britannica. Note this article from Britannica: Not long thereafter, tribes speaking an Iranian language, whom the Greeks called Scythians, conquered the Cimmerians. [11]
Also Britannica says: member of a nomadic people originally of Iranian stock who migrated from Central Asia to southern Russia in the 8th and 7th centuries Bc . Centred on what is now the Crimea, the Scythians founded a rich, powerful empire that survived for several centuries before succumbing to the Sarmatians during the 4th century BC to the 2nd century AD. Much of what is known of the history of the Scythians comes from the account of them by the ancient Greek historian Herodotus, who visited their territory. In modern times this record has been expanded chiefly by the work of Russian anthropologists.. [12]. Thus it does not say Russian anthropologist are recently expanding, it says the works of Russian antropologists have expanded knowledge on the topic. Two different things! Furthermore of course Scythians like any other group mixed with locals. They ruled from India to Ukraine. And finally Scythian language branched off to Alanic, Khotanese Saka and etc. Just like Sanskrit branched off to various languages. I invite you to be civil and stop the personal attacks.--alidoostzadeh 14:06, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Dear Ali, I hope your expertise on Britannica includes the famous 15th paper edition. The date does not matter, because the reprints did not yield different versions or corrections to the subject, not even, reprint 2007. Therefore, date is irrelevant and demanding Britannica online is not necessary or at issue and insisting on the online version would even imply the impplementation of double standards. Please surprise me with you next argument in favor of reverting the truth you hate so much. Didn't I tell you already I have the complete Britannica in my possession and in front of me? It is a little silly you are reverting in advance of your private investigation and ask me to wait until tuesday, while I can already tell you what Britannica says.
Your additions to my observations are irrelevant. Your statement "Ossetic is the modern descendant of the language of the ancient Alani, a Sarmatian people....[10] which already contradicts one of your assertions." is a clear example of WP:OR. Note "Alani, a Sarmatian people having Ossetic as its modern descendant" doesn't mean "Ossetic being the modern descendant of all Scythians." Please do not resort to extrapolations or irrelevant deviations and stick to the unambiguous text. Russian anthropologists, whether already having expanded or still expanding knowledge on this subject because of their work, does not change the Russian anthropologists being recognized as leading experts on the subject.
Rokus01 18:38, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Actually I will bring all the sources from Britannica 2007 edition (the newest edition available online through any decent university) soon and then we can discuss their merits. Obviously this supercedes any obsolete text version. I have access to the full edition also and I am on travel. Users can decide then about who is extrapolating. The best way is to simply quote the sentence without any commentary.. --alidoostzadeh 23:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Genes
If i interupted tu much continue and ignore.
The ethnic origin is best to analyze by genetic markers. Words can spread as wind for genes - ethnic relationship is required. Do somebody oppose for R1a1 as main Scythian marker? The linguistic stuff is pre-genetic research stuff. The linguist just get hypothesis. But can’t confirm them. Did they think that by molecular biology, we will be able to precisely measure ethnicity in 100 k years depth? The other people who do not have the high % in gens was perhaps good allays of Scythian. Especialy if they have similar languages. We should honor that fact and allowed them to belong to this group. There is also possible another tragic scenario, that years before, thy get more the common genes, but they was left somehow isolated, abandoned by us, unsupported and finally the genes was diluted by outside influence(?). Sometime it was terrible time and experience. Do not reject those who fill historical affinity. There is always limited number of people on earth. With mutual respect we can share common inheritance real or just symbolic. The inclusion to history may be done by will. Will be it truth? If no fact say otherwise we can always find an common idea, common ideals, and common understanding 24.13.244.169 05:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Also Britannica says: member of a nomadic people originally of Iranian stock who migrated from Central Asia to southern Russia in the 8th and 7th centuries Bc . Centred on what is now the Crimea, the Scythians founded a rich, powerful empire that survived for several centuries before succumbing to the Sarmatians during the 4th century BC to the 2nd century AD. Much of what is known of the history of the Scythians comes from the account of them by the ancient Greek historian Herodotus, who visited their territory. In modern times this record has been expanded chiefly by the work of Russian anthropologists.. [12]. Thus it does not say Russian anthropologist are recently expanding, it says the works of Russian antropologists have expanded knowledge on the topic. Two different things! Furthermore of course Scythians like any other group mixed with locals. They ruled from India to Ukraine. And finally Scythian language branched off to Alanic, Khotanese Saka and etc. Just like Sanskrit branched off to various languages. I invite you to be civil and stop the personal attacks.--alidoostzadeh 14:06, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Dear Ali, I hope your expertise on Britannica includes the famous 15th paper edition. The date does not matter, because the reprints did not yield different versions or corrections to the subject, not even, reprint 2007. Therefore, date is irrelevant and demanding Britannica online is not necessary or at issue and insisting on the online version would even imply the impplementation of double standards. Please surprise me with you next argument in favor of reverting the truth you hate so much. Didn't I tell you already I have the complete Britannica in my possession and in front of me? It is a little silly you are reverting in advance of your private investigation and ask me to wait until tuesday, while I can already tell you what Britannica says.
Your additions to my observations are irrelevant. Your statement "Ossetic is the modern descendant of the language of the ancient Alani, a Sarmatian people....[10] which already contradicts one of your assertions." is a clear example of WP:OR. Note "Alani, a Sarmatian people having Ossetic as its modern descendant" doesn't mean "Ossetic being the modern descendant of all Scythians." Please do not resort to extrapolations or irrelevant deviations and stick to the unambiguous text. Russian anthropologists, whether already having expanded or still expanding knowledge on this subject because of their work, does not change the Russian anthropologists being recognized as leading experts on the subject.
Rokus01 18:38, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Actually I will bring all the sources from Britannica 2007 edition (the newest edition available online through any decent university) soon and then we can discuss their merits. Obviously this supercedes any obsolete text version. I have access to the full edition also and I am on travel. Users can decide then about who is extrapolating. The best way is to simply quote the sentence without any commentary.. --alidoostzadeh 23:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Genes
If i interupted tu much continue and ignore.
The ethnic origin is best to analyze by genetic markers. Words can spread as wind for genes - ethnic relationship is required. Do somebody oppose for R1a1 as main Scythian marker? The linguistic stuff is pre-genetic research stuff. The linguist just get hypothesis. But can’t confirm them. Did they think that by molecular biology, we will be able to precisely measure ethnicity in 100 k years depth? The other people who do not have the high % in gens was perhaps good allays of Scythian. Especialy if they have similar languages. We should honor that fact and allowed them to belong to this group. There is also possible another tragic scenario, that years before, thy get more the common genes, but they was left somehow isolated, abandoned by us, unsupported and finally the genes was diluted by outside influence(?). Sometime it was terrible time and experience. Do not reject those who fill historical affinity. There is always limited number of people on earth. With mutual respect we can share common inheritance real or just symbolic. The inclusion to history may be done by will. Will be it truth? If no fact say otherwise we can always find an common idea, common ideals, and common understanding 24.13.244.169 05:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Clear example of Hypocrisy by user Rockus01 removing Britannica and inserting Britannica when it suits his agenda
A clear example of this users hypocrisy. He removes the Britannica link from Scythians for dubious reasonsand yet calls it source info here and puts it back in another article. [7]! Where as in that link there is no other sources to corroborate the Britannica statement in this article we have brought 14 of the latest sources. Unfortunately this ideological users have a problem with Britannica 2007 and tens of other scholars who have clearly stated Scythian is Iranian. The user does not like the words of scholars so he tries to either dilute it or subvert it with phony words like unscientific , flawed..--alidoostzadeh 16:45, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Let me also mention that RFC was held in Scythians [8]. This user clearly thinks that wikipedia is a discussion board where he can put any sort of opinion even his own non-scholarly one. Also here is one more link where the user simply again inserted a Britannica link: [9]. Yet he wants to remove from Scythians when 14 other references besides Britannica were provided by published and world recognized scholars in the field. --alidoostzadeh 16:52, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
That Scythian is Iranian is a fact accepted by scholars of today. Any other opinion from non-scholars specially from ideological websites does not room in a wikipedia article. As wikipedia clearly rejects OR. --alidoostzadeh 16:52, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Your assumptions just show a tremendous lack of knowledge concerning the real scientific discussion, far beyond the importance of Wikipedia and nothing to do with little Wikipedia things like OR or low level discussion boards like this Talk. This scientific discussion is what you want to exclude from this article. You try this by false pretexts like as if any consensus has already been achieved, defiling scientific standards, Russian scholars and sources. Your "evidence" is teinted and far from conclusive, who are you to say anything is considered conclusive? You are not able to show any source that support your outspoken opinion on consensus, even less supported by other sources. Since your erroneous, unscientific and not-Wikipedian (endorsed by third opinions you don't seem to mind) opinion in thinking tertiary source Britannica carry more weight than anything else, seem to be unshakable, I will answer your misinterpretations by Britannica evidence.
Britannica clearly states Scythians where "originally" of iranian stock.
Britannica clearly states the Scytho-Sarmatian languages were distinct to all other Eastern Iranian languages, including Saka.
Britannica clearly states the Scytho-Sarmatians lasted untill the 2nd century AD
Britannica clearly states few words are known in all eastern Iranian languages up to the 4th century AD, when Scythian was already extict
Britannica clearly states Ossetian does not equal a direct continuation to the Scytho-Sarmatian inscriptions.
Britannica clearly states Russian anthropologists have recently expanded our knowledge on this subject
A clear example of this users hypocrisy. He removes the Britannica link from Scythians for dubious reasonsand yet calls it source info here and puts it back in another article. [7]! Where as in that link there is no other sources to corroborate the Britannica statement in this article we have brought 14 of the latest sources. Unfortunately this ideological users have a problem with Britannica 2007 and tens of other scholars who have clearly stated Scythian is Iranian. The user does not like the words of scholars so he tries to either dilute it or subvert it with phony words like unscientific , flawed..--alidoostzadeh 16:45, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Let me also mention that RFC was held in Scythians [8]. This user clearly thinks that wikipedia is a discussion board where he can put any sort of opinion even his own non-scholarly one. Also here is one more link where the user simply again inserted a Britannica link: [9]. Yet he wants to remove from Scythians when 14 other references besides Britannica were provided by published and world recognized scholars in the field. --alidoostzadeh 16:52, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
That Scythian is Iranian is a fact accepted by scholars of today. Any other opinion from non-scholars specially from ideological websites does not room in a wikipedia article. As wikipedia clearly rejects OR. --alidoostzadeh 16:52, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Your assumptions just show a tremendous lack of knowledge concerning the real scientific discussion, far beyond the importance of Wikipedia and nothing to do with little Wikipedia things like OR or low level discussion boards like this Talk. This scientific discussion is what you want to exclude from this article. You try this by false pretexts like as if any consensus has already been achieved, defiling scientific standards, Russian scholars and sources. Your "evidence" is teinted and far from conclusive, who are you to say anything is considered conclusive? You are not able to show any source that support your outspoken opinion on consensus, even less supported by other sources. Since your erroneous, unscientific and not-Wikipedian (endorsed by third opinions you don't seem to mind) opinion in thinking tertiary source Britannica carry more weight than anything else, seem to be unshakable, I will answer your misinterpretations by Britannica evidence.
Britannica clearly states Scythians where "originally" of iranian stock.
Britannica clearly states the Scytho-Sarmatian languages were distinct to all other Eastern Iranian languages, including Saka.
Britannica clearly states the Scytho-Sarmatians lasted untill the 2nd century AD
Britannica clearly states few words are known in all eastern Iranian languages up to the 4th century AD, when Scythian was already extict
Britannica clearly states Ossetian does not equal a direct continuation to the Scytho-Sarmatian inscriptions.
Britannica clearly states Russian anthropologists have recently expanded our knowledge on this subject
15 May 2016 04:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Scythians, Persians, Parthians, Indians and etc. were not formed yet during the era of Indo-Iranians. They sprang off from Indo-Iranians. I do not care what you think about my credibility. As per me offering sources, once you connected Scythian to Zulu and Anar to Anus, it becomes clear to me you lack the proper understanding of comparative linguistics to understand these sources. Nevertheless your opinion on Britannica was refuted by other users and since Britannica does not contradict any of the scholarly sources I mentioned (more than 14) it is very fine to put it in. And your opinion on Scythians and other hypothesis does not count since we in wikipedia we only quote scholarly sources and scholars who have written in peer review journals and their work is recognized by other scholars and quoted. Scholars today are firm that Scythians are Iranians. We are not going to copy & paste their books here and then see some people with ethnic and not-scientific reasons not be convinced. Thus I do not care what you think about Scythians, since you are not a scholar, I will delete your POV opinion and I will quote the relavent scholars. What you may think is conclusive is 100% and totally and complete and uncompromisingly Irrelevant. On the article about the affiliation of Scythians we quote relevant and world recognized scholars and not from 1911. I am not here to have a discussion with you on Scythians as I do not think convincing you is relavent to this entry. What is relavent is simple. To quote scholarly sources and scientific references like Britannica. And these sources are conclusive that Scythians are Iranian. They do not have to convince you, but for the average person there is enough sources listed and they can easily look into them. --alidoostzadeh 14:58, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
You don't have to convince me, but you have to be careful not to convince anybody about being a liar. I'll quote you two times: "Britannica is considered a primary reference source." (signed Ali doostzadeh) and: "Primary academic sources are Britannica and what scholars write. Britannica is considered a primary source" (signed Ali doostzadeh). So tell me how you think to convince anybody "my" opinion about Britannica being a tertiary source was refuted? Rather come with primary and secondary sources instead to prove your point of view and don't bore me with repeating unscientific nonsense and personal attacks. As long as the only "linguistic proof" you manage to gather about the Scythians talking an Iranian language is synoptic and deductive from tertiary sources, I'll urge you to stick to traditional and sourced common knowledge that linguistic evidence on the Scyhian language is inconclusive. Note linguistic evidence does not include other evidence, like cultural, archeological or whatsoever. Be concise! Anyway, I don't see any link between your hysteric and baseless accusations (again you are confusing my sound sense of humor with your own shortcomings) and arguments in favor of your reverts. The Scythians, being classified as being East Iranian, have been traced back archeologically to the Andronovo culture. Since Wikipedia aims at supplying relevant information this should not be excluded.
In the meanwhile my patience in reasoning with you is running out. You don't bother WP:AGF and you are acting like a troll. You deliberate and intentional attempt to disrupt the usability of Wikipedia for its editors. You are far more interested in how others react to your reverts, than in the usual concerns of Wikipedians: accuracy, veracity, comprehensiveness, and overall quality. Rokus01 16:32, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Again you are the lying one who made up false accusations against such well known scholars as Harmatta. Britannica alongside 14 other sources clearly state Scythian is Iranian. Brtiannica is a primary academic source and also it quotes primary and secondary source. So it can not be compared to wikipedia with this regard. Your opinion that Britannica is not a valid source and your attempt at removing it was refuted completely by everyone here. That scythian is Iranian language is quoted in primary and secondary sources. It is a fact agreed upon by scholars. Any other hypothesis only holds ground amongst nationalists thus not relavent to wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a place to convince you, if you have a problem with the statements of scholars in the field who are recognized as world scholars, it is your problem. And either you are simply blind (since you do not see the statements of 14 other world recognized scholars in the article clearly stating Scythian is Iranian) or you simply cannot accept the scholarly opinion. Either way wikipedia will reflect the scholarly opinion and is not a discussion board to convince ideological non-scholars. --alidoostzadeh 03:31, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
I can't believe what I am reading here. This is insanity. You - or some kind automatic reply program - repeat false accusations about me mentioning Harmatta and insisting Britannica being a primary source. This is not real. This is an ugly attack on everything Wikipedia stands for. This is not reasoning, this is trolling. Rokus01 08:23, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
I am too ignorant to contribute with any knowledge about the Scythians, but this unsigned text (please type AltGr+"4" two times) caught my eye:
Your hypothesis since you are not a scholar is not worth anything either...
1. Scholars should know that ad hominems reveal weak intellectual positions.
2. There´s no way for identity checking at Wikipedia, so the claim "I am an scholar" can not be supported, i.e., it is a flatus vocis.
3. I respectfully suggest you to stablish your scholarly position not by you asserting "I am an scholar", but by the quality and relevance of the sources you cite. In my honest opinion, that´s the correct way to gain respect here as an scholar. Randroide 09:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
A second third opinion
Encyclopedias and dictionaries are tertiary sources. There is nothing prohibiting people from citing these sources, and in a pinch can be quite useful. I would suggest that they still be used, but sparingly. Primary and secondary sources should be preferred, but if nothing is found for a certain source, it would be much better to use a tertiary source than leave a {{fact}} there. The best place to look for sources is your local library, from my citation experiences. bibliomaniac15 00:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks another common sense opinion. --alidoostzadeh 01:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
You don't have to convince me, but you have to be careful not to convince anybody about being a liar. I'll quote you two times: "Britannica is considered a primary reference source." (signed Ali doostzadeh) and: "Primary academic sources are Britannica and what scholars write. Britannica is considered a primary source" (signed Ali doostzadeh). So tell me how you think to convince anybody "my" opinion about Britannica being a tertiary source was refuted? Rather come with primary and secondary sources instead to prove your point of view and don't bore me with repeating unscientific nonsense and personal attacks. As long as the only "linguistic proof" you manage to gather about the Scythians talking an Iranian language is synoptic and deductive from tertiary sources, I'll urge you to stick to traditional and sourced common knowledge that linguistic evidence on the Scyhian language is inconclusive. Note linguistic evidence does not include other evidence, like cultural, archeological or whatsoever. Be concise! Anyway, I don't see any link between your hysteric and baseless accusations (again you are confusing my sound sense of humor with your own shortcomings) and arguments in favor of your reverts. The Scythians, being classified as being East Iranian, have been traced back archeologically to the Andronovo culture. Since Wikipedia aims at supplying relevant information this should not be excluded.
In the meanwhile my patience in reasoning with you is running out. You don't bother WP:AGF and you are acting like a troll. You deliberate and intentional attempt to disrupt the usability of Wikipedia for its editors. You are far more interested in how others react to your reverts, than in the usual concerns of Wikipedians: accuracy, veracity, comprehensiveness, and overall quality. Rokus01 16:32, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Again you are the lying one who made up false accusations against such well known scholars as Harmatta. Britannica alongside 14 other sources clearly state Scythian is Iranian. Brtiannica is a primary academic source and also it quotes primary and secondary source. So it can not be compared to wikipedia with this regard. Your opinion that Britannica is not a valid source and your attempt at removing it was refuted completely by everyone here. That scythian is Iranian language is quoted in primary and secondary sources. It is a fact agreed upon by scholars. Any other hypothesis only holds ground amongst nationalists thus not relavent to wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a place to convince you, if you have a problem with the statements of scholars in the field who are recognized as world scholars, it is your problem. And either you are simply blind (since you do not see the statements of 14 other world recognized scholars in the article clearly stating Scythian is Iranian) or you simply cannot accept the scholarly opinion. Either way wikipedia will reflect the scholarly opinion and is not a discussion board to convince ideological non-scholars. --alidoostzadeh 03:31, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
I can't believe what I am reading here. This is insanity. You - or some kind automatic reply program - repeat false accusations about me mentioning Harmatta and insisting Britannica being a primary source. This is not real. This is an ugly attack on everything Wikipedia stands for. This is not reasoning, this is trolling. Rokus01 08:23, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
I am too ignorant to contribute with any knowledge about the Scythians, but this unsigned text (please type AltGr+"4" two times) caught my eye:
Your hypothesis since you are not a scholar is not worth anything either...
1. Scholars should know that ad hominems reveal weak intellectual positions.
2. There´s no way for identity checking at Wikipedia, so the claim "I am an scholar" can not be supported, i.e., it is a flatus vocis.
3. I respectfully suggest you to stablish your scholarly position not by you asserting "I am an scholar", but by the quality and relevance of the sources you cite. In my honest opinion, that´s the correct way to gain respect here as an scholar. Randroide 09:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
A second third opinion
Encyclopedias and dictionaries are tertiary sources. There is nothing prohibiting people from citing these sources, and in a pinch can be quite useful. I would suggest that they still be used, but sparingly. Primary and secondary sources should be preferred, but if nothing is found for a certain source, it would be much better to use a tertiary source than leave a {{fact}} there. The best place to look for sources is your local library, from my citation experiences. bibliomaniac15 00:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks another common sense opinion. --alidoostzadeh 01:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Third opinion on tertiary sources.
Encyclopedias are tertiary sources. I find nothing in WP:OR that prevents citing tertiary sources, although a good mix of primary and secondary sources is better. However, it is not ok to draw new links between multiple sources. To be blunt, I think both of you could remember assume good faith, no personal attacks, and be civil. --Selket Talk 10:32, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
To me this answer supports nuance supplied by primary and secondary sources to be valued above synoptic phrases retrieved primarily from tertiary sources, or from within the same secondary source. Am I right?
Also, nuance supplied to the synoptic phrases within one source (like visualized in my above quotes on Mallory) will by definition never draw such new lines to other sources. Showing where evidence on a particular field is relative, lacking or ommitted is fundamentally different from cocktailing new evidence or views with OR, rather to the contrary: such nuance prevents the generalization of POV truth where only hypothesis exists.
Rokus01 11:32, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
That is your opinion and manipulation of OR but not the opinion of three other readers. Britannica as long as it does not contradict what major scholars in the field say is an excellent source. Thankfully the article is full of primary and secondary sources. Your hypothesis since you are not a scholar is not worth anything either and you can not take sources and then draw your own unbalanced hypothesis and extrapolations. As per your Mallory quote, Mallory clearly states Scythians as Iranians. Then you go on to talk about Indo-Iranian archeology which is way before the time of Scythians and then from that you try to make your weired explanations where-as Mallory does not do such a thing. (Ali Doostzadeh).
I don't think you took at heart the third opinion about being civil. This makes me suspect you did not take at heart anything. Besides, to think archeological details don't belong to the origins of Scythians is your personal point of view, thus completely irrelevant. I insist on you being so kind not to sabotage improvements any longer, since indeed - like my supposed "double" already made clear so extensively above - the article is serously flawed. Like this, it even deserves a NPOV tag. Rokus01 07:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Never Said Archeological views don't belong to Scythians. I said your extrapolations of Archeological views does not belong to wikipedia. --alidoostzadeh 00:46, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Okay, willingness to include archeology in origins is already something. But now please be concise in pointing out those alleged extrapolations you reverted or give it a rest. All you removed is directly sourced and without extrapolations. Rokus01 07:13, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Again , if you want to quote Mallory do not make up quotes for him. And also do not remove Enyclopedia Briannica or Great Soviet Enyclopedia as other users have already pointed out . --alidoostzadeh 13:10, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Be specific. In the article I am not quoting Mallory, basically I summarize his views, which is generally considered better practice. You have to specify what elements you don't agree with in this summary, for instance for not being supported by the quoted text in Talk or for being otherwise incomplete or tainted (with the synoptic phrase about Scythians, being classiffied as being a people talking an Iranian language, already explicitly mentioned and preserved in the current text). The footnotes to tertiary sources I esteem overdone, having the synoptics already footnoted with secondary sources that should be preferred. I agree the tertiary sources could be preserved in "References", just to supply a general reference to the validity of statements, not to sustain explicit (possible NPOV) truth where only hypothesis and synoptics exists. Rokus01 18:32, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Actually that Scythians are Iranian is not hypothesis. It is accepted fact by all serious scholars in the area including Mallory. And wikipedia is not a discussion board to consider non-scholarly viewpoints. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with quoting Britannica which is a well known source. As per Mallory, your summary is your interpretation. I have already explained to you that Scythians are branch of Indo-Iranians and thus the archeology during the era of Indo-Iranians does not necessarily correspond to the archeology during the era of Scythians. --alidoostzadeh 01:50, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
You are still not specific. I can't take you seriously as long as you don't point out in what respect a summary of literally sourced quotes could possibly be deemed my specific interpretation. This looks like if you just don't agree in mentioning anything you don't like. There is no need in hiding any such information, so we won't. Your accusing me of non-scholarly viepoints is not specified either and still does not reflect any reason to your consistent reverts. Thus I still consider your reverts a result of your POV.
Can you please explain what you mean with: "Scythians are branch of Indo-Iranians and thus the archeology during the era of Indo-Iranians does not necessarily correspond to the archeology during the era of Scythians." This doesn't make sense. Scythians are a branch of the Indo-Iranians, thus necessarily the archeology of the ancestral (Andronovo) Indo-Iranians is linked to the archeology during the era of the Scythians. The way you put it does not agree with Mallory or any known standard in archeology and is utterly unsourced. Be aware of imposing your POV in such a statement.
About your statement concerning accepted facts we can continue talking untill the end of time, the only fact I know: it's unscientific to deem any scientific fact unshakable truth without proof. Certainly it would be even more unscientific to invoke tertiary sources to prove the unshakability of such a truth. This would be equal to begging the question. All I mean to say is it does not increase your credibility, since real proof here should be retrieved from primary sources, to be deemed conclusive by secondary sources, not by copying synoptics. You still did not deliver any valid source claiming the irreversible negation to the traditional and sourced common knowledge that linguistic evidence on the Scyhian language is inconclusive. This endless discussion is all about being scientific in your representation of facts. Without facts only hypothesis remains. Be angry at yourself for not being able to cocktail evidence that does not exist. And even less, don't try to curtail other information.
Rokus01 13:37, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Encyclopedias are tertiary sources. I find nothing in WP:OR that prevents citing tertiary sources, although a good mix of primary and secondary sources is better. However, it is not ok to draw new links between multiple sources. To be blunt, I think both of you could remember assume good faith, no personal attacks, and be civil. --Selket Talk 10:32, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
To me this answer supports nuance supplied by primary and secondary sources to be valued above synoptic phrases retrieved primarily from tertiary sources, or from within the same secondary source. Am I right?
Also, nuance supplied to the synoptic phrases within one source (like visualized in my above quotes on Mallory) will by definition never draw such new lines to other sources. Showing where evidence on a particular field is relative, lacking or ommitted is fundamentally different from cocktailing new evidence or views with OR, rather to the contrary: such nuance prevents the generalization of POV truth where only hypothesis exists.
Rokus01 11:32, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
That is your opinion and manipulation of OR but not the opinion of three other readers. Britannica as long as it does not contradict what major scholars in the field say is an excellent source. Thankfully the article is full of primary and secondary sources. Your hypothesis since you are not a scholar is not worth anything either and you can not take sources and then draw your own unbalanced hypothesis and extrapolations. As per your Mallory quote, Mallory clearly states Scythians as Iranians. Then you go on to talk about Indo-Iranian archeology which is way before the time of Scythians and then from that you try to make your weired explanations where-as Mallory does not do such a thing. (Ali Doostzadeh).
I don't think you took at heart the third opinion about being civil. This makes me suspect you did not take at heart anything. Besides, to think archeological details don't belong to the origins of Scythians is your personal point of view, thus completely irrelevant. I insist on you being so kind not to sabotage improvements any longer, since indeed - like my supposed "double" already made clear so extensively above - the article is serously flawed. Like this, it even deserves a NPOV tag. Rokus01 07:12, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Never Said Archeological views don't belong to Scythians. I said your extrapolations of Archeological views does not belong to wikipedia. --alidoostzadeh 00:46, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Okay, willingness to include archeology in origins is already something. But now please be concise in pointing out those alleged extrapolations you reverted or give it a rest. All you removed is directly sourced and without extrapolations. Rokus01 07:13, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Again , if you want to quote Mallory do not make up quotes for him. And also do not remove Enyclopedia Briannica or Great Soviet Enyclopedia as other users have already pointed out . --alidoostzadeh 13:10, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Be specific. In the article I am not quoting Mallory, basically I summarize his views, which is generally considered better practice. You have to specify what elements you don't agree with in this summary, for instance for not being supported by the quoted text in Talk or for being otherwise incomplete or tainted (with the synoptic phrase about Scythians, being classiffied as being a people talking an Iranian language, already explicitly mentioned and preserved in the current text). The footnotes to tertiary sources I esteem overdone, having the synoptics already footnoted with secondary sources that should be preferred. I agree the tertiary sources could be preserved in "References", just to supply a general reference to the validity of statements, not to sustain explicit (possible NPOV) truth where only hypothesis and synoptics exists. Rokus01 18:32, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Actually that Scythians are Iranian is not hypothesis. It is accepted fact by all serious scholars in the area including Mallory. And wikipedia is not a discussion board to consider non-scholarly viewpoints. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with quoting Britannica which is a well known source. As per Mallory, your summary is your interpretation. I have already explained to you that Scythians are branch of Indo-Iranians and thus the archeology during the era of Indo-Iranians does not necessarily correspond to the archeology during the era of Scythians. --alidoostzadeh 01:50, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
You are still not specific. I can't take you seriously as long as you don't point out in what respect a summary of literally sourced quotes could possibly be deemed my specific interpretation. This looks like if you just don't agree in mentioning anything you don't like. There is no need in hiding any such information, so we won't. Your accusing me of non-scholarly viepoints is not specified either and still does not reflect any reason to your consistent reverts. Thus I still consider your reverts a result of your POV.
Can you please explain what you mean with: "Scythians are branch of Indo-Iranians and thus the archeology during the era of Indo-Iranians does not necessarily correspond to the archeology during the era of Scythians." This doesn't make sense. Scythians are a branch of the Indo-Iranians, thus necessarily the archeology of the ancestral (Andronovo) Indo-Iranians is linked to the archeology during the era of the Scythians. The way you put it does not agree with Mallory or any known standard in archeology and is utterly unsourced. Be aware of imposing your POV in such a statement.
About your statement concerning accepted facts we can continue talking untill the end of time, the only fact I know: it's unscientific to deem any scientific fact unshakable truth without proof. Certainly it would be even more unscientific to invoke tertiary sources to prove the unshakability of such a truth. This would be equal to begging the question. All I mean to say is it does not increase your credibility, since real proof here should be retrieved from primary sources, to be deemed conclusive by secondary sources, not by copying synoptics. You still did not deliver any valid source claiming the irreversible negation to the traditional and sourced common knowledge that linguistic evidence on the Scyhian language is inconclusive. This endless discussion is all about being scientific in your representation of facts. Without facts only hypothesis remains. Be angry at yourself for not being able to cocktail evidence that does not exist. And even less, don't try to curtail other information.
Rokus01 13:37, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
No need to repeat myself and take your interpretation of OR even remotely seriously. Read the OR: The prohibition against original research limits the possibility of an editor presenting his or her own point of view in an article. By reinforcing the importance of including verifiable research produced by others, this policy promotes the inclusion of multiple points of view in an article. . You need to understand this part: If your viewpoint is held by an extremely small minority, then — whether it's true or not, whether you can prove it or not — it doesn't belong in Wikipedia, except perhaps in some ancillary article. Wikipedia is not the place for original research. Your opinion as long as not corroborated by scholars who have published in peer review journals on Scythians (and recently published not 100 years ago) simply does not count and fits OR and will be removed. Any hypothesis that does not have a shred of evidence and is your own extrapolation and not reflected in scholarly journals is considered OR. Your critical analysis and commentary is simply not worth a dime since you are not a scholar in the field of Scythian studies nor have published in the field. Obviously somebody who thinks Scythian can be interpreted as Zulu and relates the word Anus to Anar does not have the capability to analyze historical data. Zgusta is a well known academic and recognized by peers in the academic community and has dozens of publications in peer reviewed journals. That is why he is quoted. BTW Amateuristic just like racistic is not a word. Britannica is just one of dozens of sources that has been quoted in the article and it does not contradict any primary source (Zgusta) which is referenced by many authors. And if you want to contradict it, you must do so by other scholars in the field who are top academics and have published in peer review journals. That is the end of the issue, unless you have some serious modern scholars who are recognized, have published in Academic journals and are in a major accredited university that hold your wild interpretations, your opinion and extrapolations are not going to be placed in wikipedia since they contradict OR. That is the rule. --alidoostzadeh 15:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
It is not my intention to contradict anything. It is you that contradict primary and secondary sources by tertiary sources, by copying synoptic phrases and then prevent the picture from blurring by flouting the nuances to be found in those same secondary sources, like I already visualized above. My protest is not directed against a certain view, nor intended to advance any other view as better. My protest is directed against the unscientific way of adhering to truth where only hypothesis exists. Show me any source where it says literally: Linguistic evidence concerning the Scythian people mentioned by Herodotus is conclusive (because of Zgusta?). Untill now your conclusions are nothing but OR to me. Or maybe also POV, but certainly unscientific. Rokus01 17:48, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
This is ridiculous. Just give it a bloody rest, Rokus01. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 90.242.5.38 (talk) 00:15, 12 February 2007 (UTC).
To rokus. You can repeat youreslf 100s of times but since you lack the academic credentials, it is up to you to follow the sources and not for me to explain to you what Scythian is not considered Zulu and Anar is not related to Anus. Your intrepretations and extrapolations is OR. Simple as that. If you have any peer reviewed publishing scholar from major universities in the English language from recent time that supports your claim explicity (and not your extrapolation of their writing as in the case of Mallory) then it is not OR. The article is not about amateurish (not Amateuristic) wannabe historians. If you have any knowledge of comparative linguistic (stable sound laws , proof of the existence of such word..) you might have understood. Britannica is used by enough articles in wiki and it is considered an academic reference and it does not contradict any modern source with regards to Scythians. (see the notes of the article). At worst case I can substitute 20 links that says the same thing from different well known scholars who you tried to discredit (Harmaata for example). Stop wasting people's time and this is your last warning or else it is obvious you had another idea and it is no coincidence that you jump into this article after mentioning an imfamous site. --alidoostzadeh 00:20, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
I have been clear enough. Instead of giving me a straight answer to a straight question, you repeat your same empty accusations and still without even being able to spell Harmatta correctly. The problem is rather fundamental and involves your unscientific approach. You are unable to admit synoptic phrases and tertiary sources are no valid references to Wikipedia articles. You can't continue to prevent progress and nuance (from primary and secondary sources) by sheer amateurism. However, if this is your intention, you will continue to meet me on the battlefield. Let's go for a third opinion on this very detail. Rokus01 10:10, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Looks like two other users totally disagreed with you. And again they are valid as long as they are from scholars recognized in the field and from widely cited academic sources (Britannica) that does not contradict the scholar's opinion. You need to read more wikipedia articles in order to see that wikipedia is not a discussion forum for amateurs such as yourself to disclaim or make judgments on the views of universally recognized scholars. (Doostzadeh).
Don't be so bitter about you not being a scholar yourself! Look around into the world you are living in. The third opinion just gave an answer to the first question: The Britannica is definitely a tertiary source, something you denied so vehemently. This means: Primary and secondary sources are to be preferred. If you had looked at my contribution you would have learned the tertiary sources where not deleted but moved from the notes to the references. This, because the footnoted information from tertiary sources was obviously ment to contradict nuance from other sources with higher prevalence. If this is not clear enough to you, we have to put the second question again very clearly: Do synopthic phrases, typical to tertiary sources but within a certain context also used in secondary sources, carry more weight than - or invalidate - nuance retrieved from primary sources and those very same secondary sources? Rokus01 06:54, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
It is not my intention to contradict anything. It is you that contradict primary and secondary sources by tertiary sources, by copying synoptic phrases and then prevent the picture from blurring by flouting the nuances to be found in those same secondary sources, like I already visualized above. My protest is not directed against a certain view, nor intended to advance any other view as better. My protest is directed against the unscientific way of adhering to truth where only hypothesis exists. Show me any source where it says literally: Linguistic evidence concerning the Scythian people mentioned by Herodotus is conclusive (because of Zgusta?). Untill now your conclusions are nothing but OR to me. Or maybe also POV, but certainly unscientific. Rokus01 17:48, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
This is ridiculous. Just give it a bloody rest, Rokus01. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 90.242.5.38 (talk) 00:15, 12 February 2007 (UTC).
To rokus. You can repeat youreslf 100s of times but since you lack the academic credentials, it is up to you to follow the sources and not for me to explain to you what Scythian is not considered Zulu and Anar is not related to Anus. Your intrepretations and extrapolations is OR. Simple as that. If you have any peer reviewed publishing scholar from major universities in the English language from recent time that supports your claim explicity (and not your extrapolation of their writing as in the case of Mallory) then it is not OR. The article is not about amateurish (not Amateuristic) wannabe historians. If you have any knowledge of comparative linguistic (stable sound laws , proof of the existence of such word..) you might have understood. Britannica is used by enough articles in wiki and it is considered an academic reference and it does not contradict any modern source with regards to Scythians. (see the notes of the article). At worst case I can substitute 20 links that says the same thing from different well known scholars who you tried to discredit (Harmaata for example). Stop wasting people's time and this is your last warning or else it is obvious you had another idea and it is no coincidence that you jump into this article after mentioning an imfamous site. --alidoostzadeh 00:20, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
I have been clear enough. Instead of giving me a straight answer to a straight question, you repeat your same empty accusations and still without even being able to spell Harmatta correctly. The problem is rather fundamental and involves your unscientific approach. You are unable to admit synoptic phrases and tertiary sources are no valid references to Wikipedia articles. You can't continue to prevent progress and nuance (from primary and secondary sources) by sheer amateurism. However, if this is your intention, you will continue to meet me on the battlefield. Let's go for a third opinion on this very detail. Rokus01 10:10, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Looks like two other users totally disagreed with you. And again they are valid as long as they are from scholars recognized in the field and from widely cited academic sources (Britannica) that does not contradict the scholar's opinion. You need to read more wikipedia articles in order to see that wikipedia is not a discussion forum for amateurs such as yourself to disclaim or make judgments on the views of universally recognized scholars. (Doostzadeh).
Don't be so bitter about you not being a scholar yourself! Look around into the world you are living in. The third opinion just gave an answer to the first question: The Britannica is definitely a tertiary source, something you denied so vehemently. This means: Primary and secondary sources are to be preferred. If you had looked at my contribution you would have learned the tertiary sources where not deleted but moved from the notes to the references. This, because the footnoted information from tertiary sources was obviously ment to contradict nuance from other sources with higher prevalence. If this is not clear enough to you, we have to put the second question again very clearly: Do synopthic phrases, typical to tertiary sources but within a certain context also used in secondary sources, carry more weight than - or invalidate - nuance retrieved from primary sources and those very same secondary sources? Rokus01 06:54, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
You pretend to know it all without making any research. Easily you could have verified the Wikipedia definition of primary source to understand primary does not mean superior, but rather proximity to the information. “Primary” does not even imply reliability and you need to apply primary sources with care or at least some experience with scientific research. For instance, Herodotus was close to the source but hampered by an amateuristic view. Likewise you could say Zakiev is close to his linguistic information, but hampered by his nationalistic stance. Archeologists normally make extensive reports about their observations, all primary sources, but restrain from making easy conclusions. Obviously you are not familiar with such scientific values, and not a scholar with access to all primary sources, able to value this information without bias. It is like meeting someone on the street covered with blood, shouting “People from Mars killed my wife!” Obviously this person has first hand information, but only a fool would take him on his words. In secondary sources such information is analyzed, verified and evaluated. To have some value those secondary sources should indeed be written by renowned scholars. To understand, you need insight into the context of the information and a good sense of logic. Generalization, analysis, synthesis, interpretation, and/or evaluation of the events will normally yield to hypothesis, not new facts. Thus, Wikipedia should take care with amateuristic compilers abusing secondary sources without any understanding of such context, just to sustain their own views. Tertiary sources (note Britannica is even mentioned by name) should not be used according to Wikipedia:OR. Anyway, writing tertiary sources does not exclude the provision of commentary and analysis next to a “synoptic overview of the material available on the topic”. And you? You just copy the synoptic overview of the tertiary source Britannica to this article: a sheer violation of Wikipedia rules.
In other words, your point of view is completely wrong. Resorting to slander won’t help either to make yourself credible. First of all, come with better references to your sockpuppet–accusations. You rally a nationalist club of brainless reverters – obviously another kind of sneaky sockpuppetry, punishable by a couple of nice and sweet blockings - at least to the Dutch definition. Your arrogance is really baffling. You are not familiar to the word “mongolic”? Do some research, the word refers properly to the mongoloid race. You are not a scholar, you don’t even show any experience with research or academic thinking. You read tertiary material and verify secondary material just for some combinations of synoptic words to impose your peculiar views. You revert anything you don’t grasp or refuse to accept for giving indepth information that contract synoptics. You are cheap. You show bad behaviour. People like you should be blocked for life.
About this Zgusta-Zakiev thing, both rely on scanty primary material that doesn’t suffice to give a clou. I don’t mind any of them, though the existence of different linguistic interpretations is noteworthy enough to mention in a neutral tertiary source (like Wikipedia should be), even more so since the linguistic evidence on Scythians has been historically considered inconclusive. You quote Herodotes and accept his amateuristic accounts without any scientific reserve, but you react hysterical to an historical overview that shows your statements about consensus and no discussion on the subject are a sham. Critical commenty and analysis belong to a proper presentation of this article. Anybody is free to post contextual information and facts, even though it would contradict Britannica. It would be perfectly according to the ambiguous sources to summarize: Scythian traces represent an ancient Iranian identity in transition.
Rokus01 10:26, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
In other words, your point of view is completely wrong. Resorting to slander won’t help either to make yourself credible. First of all, come with better references to your sockpuppet–accusations. You rally a nationalist club of brainless reverters – obviously another kind of sneaky sockpuppetry, punishable by a couple of nice and sweet blockings - at least to the Dutch definition. Your arrogance is really baffling. You are not familiar to the word “mongolic”? Do some research, the word refers properly to the mongoloid race. You are not a scholar, you don’t even show any experience with research or academic thinking. You read tertiary material and verify secondary material just for some combinations of synoptic words to impose your peculiar views. You revert anything you don’t grasp or refuse to accept for giving indepth information that contract synoptics. You are cheap. You show bad behaviour. People like you should be blocked for life.
About this Zgusta-Zakiev thing, both rely on scanty primary material that doesn’t suffice to give a clou. I don’t mind any of them, though the existence of different linguistic interpretations is noteworthy enough to mention in a neutral tertiary source (like Wikipedia should be), even more so since the linguistic evidence on Scythians has been historically considered inconclusive. You quote Herodotes and accept his amateuristic accounts without any scientific reserve, but you react hysterical to an historical overview that shows your statements about consensus and no discussion on the subject are a sham. Critical commenty and analysis belong to a proper presentation of this article. Anybody is free to post contextual information and facts, even though it would contradict Britannica. It would be perfectly according to the ambiguous sources to summarize: Scythian traces represent an ancient Iranian identity in transition.
Rokus01 10:26, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I think you are talking about your own mental limits. As witnessed by readers: your logic, English and mental ability is very much hampered I remember the nice word you coined up racistic! Nice one. Also your reading ability is sub-par based on not being able to lookup the index of Mallory to find what he actually says about Scythians. Zakiev a tatar nationalist which you quote from your website [www.turkicworld.org] has no credibility in academia. Just like the other guy who tried to make a up love poem from the Issyk inscription and even he could not believe it and thus had to put it asterik mark after each word. None of them have any publications about Scythians in western academic journals nor is their name mentioned. Note in the OR wikipedia English highly prefers English sources and not Russian sources written by some tatar nationalists. Your lack of knowledge on etymological roots furthermore shows your mental inability to fathom the concept of comparative linguistics. You can not just connect A to Z in etymologically without showing valid sounds and proof such words exist. Although your etymological viewpoint about the body part of humans that is used for excretion is revealing with regards to your personal views, such etymological root is not supported by the scientific method of comparative linguistics and mainstream scholars. Also it is amazing you quote a source from 1911! and then have a problem with Britannica 2007. Your extrapolations and assumptions about Scythians are also worthless since you are not a scholar of the field. Thus by wasting people's time will not even 1% of your POV in the article. The subject of course deserves attention, but you are not an academic nor a scholar to be taken seriously and thus your opinion and extrapolations which are not based on academic scholars does not deserve any worth. I think the etymological connection you made above shows it for all of our readers. That is the complete definition of OR. Specially the opinion of someone who thought Hermatta forged the term Saka Khotanese right after I sent him Hermatta's reading of the Issyk inscription. As per Britannica it is an academic source and it can be quoted by many articles since it agrees with all primary and secondary sources. Its enteries are not written by your average joe, but by experts in the relative area. As per the issue of gradual mixing and scythians original features and etc.. this is already covered and we already scythians contributed heavily to Slavic and other types of people from China to India to Ukraine. That does not have a bearing on what language was originally spoken by Scythians. --alidoostzadeh 01:29, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Nationalist like you or not, this Zakiev certainly is a scholar with linguistic knowledge that can't be defiled so easily, especially not for political reasons only. Your repeatedly disproved accusations (do you remember Alzheimer?) won't help. BTW, your Zgusta didn't achieve much more western interest to his specific Scythian interpretations to Greek inscriptions and is hardly referred to, though his work predated Zakiev's about 40 years. The reason, and I insist you are so honest to recognize this at last, is bluntly the absence of suficient direct evidence. Only a few traces of their language are available, some scattered words and names as ambiguous as the human bodypart used for excretion. Don't confuse my cynical sense of humor with your own mental limits. Scythians happened to roam the ancestral lands of the Indo-Iranians, thus even the profound Iranian linguistic traces on the Uralian languages in that region are not as unequivocally and unanimously ascribed to Scythians. The bordering Ananino culture has been ethnographically and statistically described by Pál Lipták as having experienced an important mongolic domination and admixture between the 8th and 3rd century BC, long before historic Avar, Hun, Turkish or Mongolic appearance in the region and synchronic to the Scythian presence - and synchronic to thoroughly attested "Scythian" (or otherwise "Iranian") archeological influence. Considering this circumstances it is not scientific and OR to conclude Scythian traces represent anything more than the ultimate remains of an ancient Iranian identity in transition. The debate on Scythian ethnographics is existent, even fierce, and belongs to this very Scythian article. Rokus01 11:33, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Nothing from www.turkicworld.org is considered scholarly and from Sumerian to every single group is considered somehow altaic in that website. That fits the definition of OR. There is no debate on Scythian ethno graphics (not ethnografics). As per Zgusta just to show the respect he has in the scholarly world, in 1997 there was a book published: Historical, Indo-European and Lexicographical Studies (A Festshrift for Ladislav Zgusta on the occasion of his 70th birthday). Many top western scholars wrote in that volume and Scythians are considered Iranian throughout the volume. As per your suicient (you meant sufficient) evidence, all the evidences are considered enough by scholars to deem Scythians as Iranian. For the 100th time, your opinion on Scythians and similar opinion by nationalists who have not published in any major western journals and books are worthless. They are not in the domain of academia to be taken seriously. As per your cynical humor and mental limits, that is not the concern of the article. As per Iranian evidence on Uralian and etc. None of these has to do with what scholars Scythians to be. Let me repeat your opinion and extrapolations are worthless. They are not published in academic peer reviewed journal or any scholarly source like Britannica or by any Academic of a major university (just like Zakiev guy). Your mental inability to grasp this simple fact shows that you have not read wikipedia's OR policy. Since you lack academic credentials your opinion is not worth a dime neither are your interpretations and extrapolations. Thus if you have problem with the academic viewpoint on Scythians go write your own web-page (as you already have www.turkicworld.org). But it has no place in wikipedia. I would also take a course or two in linguistics. And please write better English if you are going to accuse me of not doing so: Absence (not absence), sufficient (not sufficient), ambiguous (not ambigious), body part (not bodypart), ethnographic (not ethnographic), Mongolic (it is not even a word), existent (not existent). Again your opinion nor either the opinion of Zakiev is worth dime. You are not published and referenced author and have not published anything of significant in any peer reviewed academic journal. Neither are you an academic in any major university that studies the classics. Thus your opinion on scythians and all of your psuedo-theories does not belong to wikipedia since they are not in any academically referenced published journal. If you have mental inability to grasp this simple concept, then it is your own problem. Further agitation on this issue and I will reveal your multiple suck-puppets (TAwarner and the other one) . --alidoostzadeh 14:55, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Nationalist like you or not, this Zakiev certainly is a scholar with linguistic knowledge that can't be defiled so easily, especially not for political reasons only. Your repeatedly disproved accusations (do you remember Alzheimer?) won't help. BTW, your Zgusta didn't achieve much more western interest to his specific Scythian interpretations to Greek inscriptions and is hardly referred to, though his work predated Zakiev's about 40 years. The reason, and I insist you are so honest to recognize this at last, is bluntly the absence of suficient direct evidence. Only a few traces of their language are available, some scattered words and names as ambiguous as the human bodypart used for excretion. Don't confuse my cynical sense of humor with your own mental limits. Scythians happened to roam the ancestral lands of the Indo-Iranians, thus even the profound Iranian linguistic traces on the Uralian languages in that region are not as unequivocally and unanimously ascribed to Scythians. The bordering Ananino culture has been ethnographically and statistically described by Pál Lipták as having experienced an important mongolic domination and admixture between the 8th and 3rd century BC, long before historic Avar, Hun, Turkish or Mongolic appearance in the region and synchronic to the Scythian presence - and synchronic to thoroughly attested "Scythian" (or otherwise "Iranian") archeological influence. Considering this circumstances it is not scientific and OR to conclude Scythian traces represent anything more than the ultimate remains of an ancient Iranian identity in transition. The debate on Scythian ethnographics is existent, even fierce, and belongs to this very Scythian article. Rokus01 11:33, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Nothing from www.turkicworld.org is considered scholarly and from Sumerian to every single group is considered somehow altaic in that website. That fits the definition of OR. There is no debate on Scythian ethno graphics (not ethnografics). As per Zgusta just to show the respect he has in the scholarly world, in 1997 there was a book published: Historical, Indo-European and Lexicographical Studies (A Festshrift for Ladislav Zgusta on the occasion of his 70th birthday). Many top western scholars wrote in that volume and Scythians are considered Iranian throughout the volume. As per your suicient (you meant sufficient) evidence, all the evidences are considered enough by scholars to deem Scythians as Iranian. For the 100th time, your opinion on Scythians and similar opinion by nationalists who have not published in any major western journals and books are worthless. They are not in the domain of academia to be taken seriously. As per your cynical humor and mental limits, that is not the concern of the article. As per Iranian evidence on Uralian and etc. None of these has to do with what scholars Scythians to be. Let me repeat your opinion and extrapolations are worthless. They are not published in academic peer reviewed journal or any scholarly source like Britannica or by any Academic of a major university (just like Zakiev guy). Your mental inability to grasp this simple fact shows that you have not read wikipedia's OR policy. Since you lack academic credentials your opinion is not worth a dime neither are your interpretations and extrapolations. Thus if you have problem with the academic viewpoint on Scythians go write your own web-page (as you already have www.turkicworld.org). But it has no place in wikipedia. I would also take a course or two in linguistics. And please write better English if you are going to accuse me of not doing so: Absence (not absence), sufficient (not sufficient), ambiguous (not ambigious), body part (not bodypart), ethnographic (not ethnographic), Mongolic (it is not even a word), existent (not existent). Again your opinion nor either the opinion of Zakiev is worth dime. You are not published and referenced author and have not published anything of significant in any peer reviewed academic journal. Neither are you an academic in any major university that studies the classics. Thus your opinion on scythians and all of your psuedo-theories does not belong to wikipedia since they are not in any academically referenced published journal. If you have mental inability to grasp this simple concept, then it is your own problem. Further agitation on this issue and I will reveal your multiple suck-puppets (TAwarner and the other one) . --alidoostzadeh 14:55, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tertiary sources are publications, such as encyclopedias, that sum up other secondary sources, and sometimes primary sources. Wikipedia is a tertiary source.
Note this section carefully: All articles on Wikipedia should be based on information collected from published primary and secondary sources. Thus a Tertiary source that sums a secondary source is valid reference.
Thus neither aprimary nor a secondary nor Tertiary source is considered original research. AlthoughEncylopedia Britannica 2007 is not needed in this case, there is absolutely nothing OR about quoting Enyclcopedia Britannica and many wikipedia enteries do. Since you are not a linguist knowledgable in ancient Iranian languages (Old Persian, Avesta, Parthian, Khotanese Saka) and since one (amongst many) of the major reasons Scythians are considered Iranians is linguistic affiliation, you can not keep pushing your intrepretation of scythians. If you have a PhD in the field of Scythian studies and have published in major journals about ancient Scythians and have written books about them and have showed for example that somehow Scythian is related to Zulu, then fine. I can bring lots of linguistic evidence. Thus you have no valid reason to make POV edits.
I'll be happy to provide many arguments outside of the article. Papaios which means Father in Scythian. This sets Scythian as an Indo-European language as this is a very basic word in any language. Anar (effeminate) with a clear Iranian etymology.. Thus by the fact that Scythian language is an Iranian language and they played a major role in Iranian mythology (Sakestan being the home of many Iranian myths) and many other reasons, scholars consider them Iranian. But if you find a serious modern era scholar that considers them Zulu or whatever, bring forth your source. We can keep going back and forth. In the end wikipedia will reflect the knowledge of the scholars of relavent field and that is the major message in the OR section that you have not carefully read. And please do not do an OR on OR. It is clear wikipedia is meant to reflect the knowledge of scholars. --alidoostzadeh 20:33, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I will give one example where in this response you are committing OR on OR:
Note this section carefully: "All articles on Wikipedia should be based on information collected from published primary and secondary sources." Thus a Tertiary source that sums a secondary source is valid reference.
"Thus" quoted is clearly your OR interpretation, (wrongly) cocktailed from the quoted texts on OR, and not directly based on what is actually written. Also, it is clear you don't fathom the Wikipedia definition of "Tertiary source", not even explicitly quoted by yourself: "Tertiary sources are publications, such as encyclopedias, that sum up other secondary sources, and sometimes primary sources". Tertiary sources like Britannica can be accepted on a ow level of understanding, but never fully grasped without knowledge or understanding of such underlying primary or secundary sources. My arguments you despise so much, are the result of just reading primary and secondary sources carefully in German or English, not OR (you should be able to prove such an accusation, but all your logic is a sham). "Thus" you don't give me any confidence you are able to retrieve or abstract such indepth information, since obviously your English, your scientific background and sense of logic are seriously hampered. Worse, you turn using tertiary sources into serious abuse.
Anyway, thanks for your examples about Papaios (father) and Anar (effeminate). I'll tell you these two words could be explained by any language using and abusing the words Papa and Anus and derivatives as referring to father and homosexual, like English, Spanish, Dutch and - indeed - maybe Zulu. Nevertheless, you are only interested in the opinion of scholars: you know very well Mirfatych Zakievic Zakiev published his alternative Turkish interpretations as recently as 1995 (M.Z. Zakiev, “Etnonimika i etnogenez” in M.Z. Zakiev, Tatary: problemy istorii i iazyka, Kazan, 1995). You are angry because this frustrates you. Well, such uncertaincy does not frustrate me at all. Iranians originated from the southern Ural region and obviously lost their Aryen blond purity soon because of their own inventions towards high mobility, to become swarthy because of mixtures in Iran and receiving mongolic blood in the eastern (Altay) regions. Such a view has been pronounced repeatedly in history and was never denied by any scholar. This subject deserves serious attention, since much about the eventual disappearance of Scythians and merging into the current populations remains unclear. The mixed race and culture in current Tartaristan, Turkestan and even China are extensive and "Caucasoid" enough to assume a gradual merging rather than the original Iranians being utterly wiped out or replaced. You are right, you will not read this in Britannia Online nor can't we supply the logic without risking OR. But you are wrong in denying this logic has been pronounced in any scholarly review, or revoked in any other. Therefore, your statement that Britannica pronounces the only and complete high and low level truth is utterly nonsense, POV and OR.
Rokus01 22:45, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Note this section carefully: All articles on Wikipedia should be based on information collected from published primary and secondary sources. Thus a Tertiary source that sums a secondary source is valid reference.
Thus neither aprimary nor a secondary nor Tertiary source is considered original research. AlthoughEncylopedia Britannica 2007 is not needed in this case, there is absolutely nothing OR about quoting Enyclcopedia Britannica and many wikipedia enteries do. Since you are not a linguist knowledgable in ancient Iranian languages (Old Persian, Avesta, Parthian, Khotanese Saka) and since one (amongst many) of the major reasons Scythians are considered Iranians is linguistic affiliation, you can not keep pushing your intrepretation of scythians. If you have a PhD in the field of Scythian studies and have published in major journals about ancient Scythians and have written books about them and have showed for example that somehow Scythian is related to Zulu, then fine. I can bring lots of linguistic evidence. Thus you have no valid reason to make POV edits.
I'll be happy to provide many arguments outside of the article. Papaios which means Father in Scythian. This sets Scythian as an Indo-European language as this is a very basic word in any language. Anar (effeminate) with a clear Iranian etymology.. Thus by the fact that Scythian language is an Iranian language and they played a major role in Iranian mythology (Sakestan being the home of many Iranian myths) and many other reasons, scholars consider them Iranian. But if you find a serious modern era scholar that considers them Zulu or whatever, bring forth your source. We can keep going back and forth. In the end wikipedia will reflect the knowledge of the scholars of relavent field and that is the major message in the OR section that you have not carefully read. And please do not do an OR on OR. It is clear wikipedia is meant to reflect the knowledge of scholars. --alidoostzadeh 20:33, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I will give one example where in this response you are committing OR on OR:
Note this section carefully: "All articles on Wikipedia should be based on information collected from published primary and secondary sources." Thus a Tertiary source that sums a secondary source is valid reference.
"Thus" quoted is clearly your OR interpretation, (wrongly) cocktailed from the quoted texts on OR, and not directly based on what is actually written. Also, it is clear you don't fathom the Wikipedia definition of "Tertiary source", not even explicitly quoted by yourself: "Tertiary sources are publications, such as encyclopedias, that sum up other secondary sources, and sometimes primary sources". Tertiary sources like Britannica can be accepted on a ow level of understanding, but never fully grasped without knowledge or understanding of such underlying primary or secundary sources. My arguments you despise so much, are the result of just reading primary and secondary sources carefully in German or English, not OR (you should be able to prove such an accusation, but all your logic is a sham). "Thus" you don't give me any confidence you are able to retrieve or abstract such indepth information, since obviously your English, your scientific background and sense of logic are seriously hampered. Worse, you turn using tertiary sources into serious abuse.
Anyway, thanks for your examples about Papaios (father) and Anar (effeminate). I'll tell you these two words could be explained by any language using and abusing the words Papa and Anus and derivatives as referring to father and homosexual, like English, Spanish, Dutch and - indeed - maybe Zulu. Nevertheless, you are only interested in the opinion of scholars: you know very well Mirfatych Zakievic Zakiev published his alternative Turkish interpretations as recently as 1995 (M.Z. Zakiev, “Etnonimika i etnogenez” in M.Z. Zakiev, Tatary: problemy istorii i iazyka, Kazan, 1995). You are angry because this frustrates you. Well, such uncertaincy does not frustrate me at all. Iranians originated from the southern Ural region and obviously lost their Aryen blond purity soon because of their own inventions towards high mobility, to become swarthy because of mixtures in Iran and receiving mongolic blood in the eastern (Altay) regions. Such a view has been pronounced repeatedly in history and was never denied by any scholar. This subject deserves serious attention, since much about the eventual disappearance of Scythians and merging into the current populations remains unclear. The mixed race and culture in current Tartaristan, Turkestan and even China are extensive and "Caucasoid" enough to assume a gradual merging rather than the original Iranians being utterly wiped out or replaced. You are right, you will not read this in Britannia Online nor can't we supply the logic without risking OR. But you are wrong in denying this logic has been pronounced in any scholarly review, or revoked in any other. Therefore, your statement that Britannica pronounces the only and complete high and low level truth is utterly nonsense, POV and OR.
Rokus01 22:45, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ali, I don't get the impression you are open to arguments, but I will answer your questions as well as possible because I consider myself civilized. Your question about Mallory: Why should I quote Mallory on things already quoted elsewhere in the article? Read my postings for once, like the previous one, where I explicitly agree on this statement "Scythians are Iranian". However, this is just not enough in an article read by people that are interested in some indepth information. To what extend Scythians are Iranian? Read my arguments above. Again, this article gives a point of view without a scientific argumentation, but I already discovered this is typical to articles concerning people in this very region and I can hear many intelligent and studied people moaning loudly on the Talk pages. To me this doesn't matter anymore, I think failure must be inherit to the ideal of Wikipedia, since nationalist people are involved that claim scholarly wisdom, contradict Wikipedia definitions about tertiary sources and boast knowledge about scholars like Harmatta they can't even spell, and above all lie about people giving arguments they didn't even utter (I already told before I didn't even mention Harmatta, but you just don't mind). Just because they want to let the world know, but without realizing the damage they do to the culture they love. Rokus01 08:41, 9 February 2007 (UTC) I am not here to argue and neither I am open to argumentation. I am just quoting relavent scholars on the fied. Your arguments are baseless since you are not a scholar. Had you any decency, you would have quoted Dr. Mallory in full instead of talking about parts that have no relationship to the Scythian era! If you are interested in indepth information, then you need to read sources by scholars and not put your own analysis since you lack the credibility to do so. Obviously you have not read the OR section. Let me spell it out to you.
Primary sources are documents or people very close to the situation being written about. An eyewitness account of a traffic accident is a primary source. The White House's summary of a president's speech is a primary source. Primary sources that have been published by a reliable source may be used in Wikipedia, but only with care, because it's easy to misuse them. For that reason, anyone—without specialist knowledge—who reads the primary source should be able to verify that the Wikipedia passage agrees with the primary source. Any interpretation of primary source material requires a secondary source.
Examples of primary sources include archeological artifacts; photographs; newspaper accounts which contain first-hand material, not merely analysis or commentary of other material; historical documents such as diaries, census results, video or transcripts of surveillance, public hearings, trials, or interviews; tabulated results of surveys or questionnaires; written or recorded notes of laboratory and field experiments or observations; and artistic and fictional works such as poems, scripts, screenplays, novels, motion pictures, videos, and television programs.
Secondary sources draw on primary sources in order to make generalizations or original interpretive, analytical, synthetic, or explanatory claims. A journalist's analysis or commentary of a traffic accident based on eye-witness reports is a secondary source. A New York Times analysis and commentary on a president's speech is a secondary source. An historian's interpretation of the decline of the Roman Empire, or analysis of the historical Jesus, constitute secondary sources. Wikipedia articles should rely on reliable, verifiable, published secondary sources wherever possible. This means that we present verifiable accounts of views and arguments of reliable scholars, and not interpretations of primary source material by Wikipedians.
Primary sources are documents or people very close to the situation being written about. An eyewitness account of a traffic accident is a primary source. The White House's summary of a president's speech is a primary source. Primary sources that have been published by a reliable source may be used in Wikipedia, but only with care, because it's easy to misuse them. For that reason, anyone—without specialist knowledge—who reads the primary source should be able to verify that the Wikipedia passage agrees with the primary source. Any interpretation of primary source material requires a secondary source.
Examples of primary sources include archeological artifacts; photographs; newspaper accounts which contain first-hand material, not merely analysis or commentary of other material; historical documents such as diaries, census results, video or transcripts of surveillance, public hearings, trials, or interviews; tabulated results of surveys or questionnaires; written or recorded notes of laboratory and field experiments or observations; and artistic and fictional works such as poems, scripts, screenplays, novels, motion pictures, videos, and television programs.
Secondary sources draw on primary sources in order to make generalizations or original interpretive, analytical, synthetic, or explanatory claims. A journalist's analysis or commentary of a traffic accident based on eye-witness reports is a secondary source. A New York Times analysis and commentary on a president's speech is a secondary source. An historian's interpretation of the decline of the Roman Empire, or analysis of the historical Jesus, constitute secondary sources. Wikipedia articles should rely on reliable, verifiable, published secondary sources wherever possible. This means that we present verifiable accounts of views and arguments of reliable scholars, and not interpretations of primary source material by Wikipedians.
15 May 2016 04:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Outside Opinion
Hello all, I came to this page via your request for a third opinion. The 3rd party opinion works best when dealing with two disputing editors, however, this article appears to already have third, fourth, and maybe even fifth opinions. I would be happy to help find a way out of your current edit dispute if you so desire. That said, you would probably get a better result if you ask for help from the member's advocates, who would also be able to help you through an official mediation if one is needed. Pastordavid 18:24, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you! Whether or not mediation could solve the problem of some blocking all other opinions. Rokus01 20:20, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Deletion of tertiary sources
In WP:OR it says clearly: "All articles on Wikipedia should be based on information collected from published primary and secondary sources."
Tertiary sources are publications, such as encyclopedias, that sum up other secondary sources, and sometimes primary sources. Since this article pretends Wikipedia:Verifiability (V) and NPOV truth, and considering the amount of primary and secondary sources already drawn upon, all references to Britannica should be removed asap. Rokus01 18:17, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Britannica is considered a primary reference source. And there is a lot of articles that reference it. You need to stop pushing your POV, ASAP.
Who told you this nonsense? I am not pushing POV, I just insist on the proper use of primary and secondary sources. In this you fail, as I pointed out already. Britannica is an encyclopedia, thus (as explained in WP:OR) defined as a tertiary source that should rather not be used or referred to, especially not at this stage of your POV pushing and warring against reason. There is no point in abusing tertiary sources. What's your point anyway? Rokus01 07:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Brtiannica is a prime academic source and is used in every university. And I do not need Britannica as I have 50 sources that Scythians are Iranians from specialists and I can easily insert it in. It is from 2007. Using sources from 1911 and another source from 1890-1957 (who knows when the person wrote the book but he died in 1957) and pushing them instead of sources from at least 1990 is a big time POV pushing. We have had an Rfic here as well. If you have problem with the way scythians are classified by scholars, then you need to prove those scholars wrong in scholarly journal magazines. Wikipedia will reflect the opinions of scholrs that have studied scythians and have written high quality academic journals. So I think you need check WP:OR. If you have a problem with this statement go see the user dab who is the admin most involved in Scythian issues. --alidoostzadeh 12:11, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Even though having all these sources you still fail to point out what it means to say "Scythians are Iranians." To what extend? Indepth information can only be retrieved from primary sources, and secondary sources referring to primary sources. The Britannica does neither and being a tertiary source contents itself to just using some general statements, that are supposed to be worthwhile but without serving a scientific purpose, as you say. Your superficial reverts assume a conflict between my edits and above statement, "Scythians are Iranian", that does not exist: Being Iranian, Scythians still can be of mixed culture, race, descend and even language. Worse, you turn sourced evidence upside down by suggesting any of your sources ever actually proved otherwise, or even intend to do so! No, I already pointed at an important current among scholars of those who agree about linguistic evidence being inconclusive and Iranian evidence being circumstantial. What's the big deal to you? If utterly untrue, like you claim it is: what prevents you from posting reliable and relevant sources that revoke all doubts about such Scythian Iranian purity? I'll tell you: such black and white thinking is not scientific UNLESS anyone could produce unequivocal evidence to the contrary. So why you refuse to serve truth and try at least to outline such an Iranian view? I'll help you:
Indo-Iranian influences on all Uralian languages point to an early common contact around the third millennium BC lasting to the first millenium (well before Scythian advent into the region).
Scythians inherited from Iranian and Indo-European culture. (although other influences have been noted and never been denied)
Scythian language probably was most related to Ossetian and "Saka" (but in this has not been sufficiently preserved to give a clou. Saka literature has been classified as Middle Iranian, as far as I know, what of course doesn't exclude Eastern Iranian identity, but such reasoning doesn't help much in describing the Scythians proper unequivocally at all periods of time everywhere. And above all: who does? Where?)
Scythian burials give a lot of information (but has also raised scholarly questions about local continuity that should not be denied)
Ali, if you try some effort and draw back this line of uncertaincy further I would take your reverts more seriously and your actions less disruptive. Notify me when ready for Talk and end this senseless deletion of sourced information. Rokus01 13:42, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Primary sources are Herodotus and etc. Primary academic sources are Britannica and what scholars write. Britannica is considered a primary source and it is in every university. You are quoting something from 1911 and I am quoting Britannica 2007. There is a big big difference. I do not have to quote Britannica 2007 and can quote equivalently 100's of sources. You still have not explained for the sake of fairness why you did not quote Mallory where he specifically says Scythians are Iranian. Again you are not a Scythian scholar. For the article I just have to quote scholars that have published academic papers and journals and books that Scythians are Iranian. I have already brought names and etymologies and all Scythian names and words have satisfactory Iranian etymology. Some very 100% clear even for a Persian speaker today. The sections you brought from Mallory previous did not say anything about Scythians. They are your own extrapolations. I have already referred you to enough sources. You are not going to be satisfied simply because I saw you call Hermatta (a world renown scholar) a liar and then also you did not quote Mallory's section on Sctyhians. If you have a problem with Scythians being considered Iranian by all scholars you need to write in academic journals making valid critism. Wikipedia is not the place. --alidoostzadeh 00:26, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello all, I came to this page via your request for a third opinion. The 3rd party opinion works best when dealing with two disputing editors, however, this article appears to already have third, fourth, and maybe even fifth opinions. I would be happy to help find a way out of your current edit dispute if you so desire. That said, you would probably get a better result if you ask for help from the member's advocates, who would also be able to help you through an official mediation if one is needed. Pastordavid 18:24, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you! Whether or not mediation could solve the problem of some blocking all other opinions. Rokus01 20:20, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Deletion of tertiary sources
In WP:OR it says clearly: "All articles on Wikipedia should be based on information collected from published primary and secondary sources."
Tertiary sources are publications, such as encyclopedias, that sum up other secondary sources, and sometimes primary sources. Since this article pretends Wikipedia:Verifiability (V) and NPOV truth, and considering the amount of primary and secondary sources already drawn upon, all references to Britannica should be removed asap. Rokus01 18:17, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Britannica is considered a primary reference source. And there is a lot of articles that reference it. You need to stop pushing your POV, ASAP.
Who told you this nonsense? I am not pushing POV, I just insist on the proper use of primary and secondary sources. In this you fail, as I pointed out already. Britannica is an encyclopedia, thus (as explained in WP:OR) defined as a tertiary source that should rather not be used or referred to, especially not at this stage of your POV pushing and warring against reason. There is no point in abusing tertiary sources. What's your point anyway? Rokus01 07:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Brtiannica is a prime academic source and is used in every university. And I do not need Britannica as I have 50 sources that Scythians are Iranians from specialists and I can easily insert it in. It is from 2007. Using sources from 1911 and another source from 1890-1957 (who knows when the person wrote the book but he died in 1957) and pushing them instead of sources from at least 1990 is a big time POV pushing. We have had an Rfic here as well. If you have problem with the way scythians are classified by scholars, then you need to prove those scholars wrong in scholarly journal magazines. Wikipedia will reflect the opinions of scholrs that have studied scythians and have written high quality academic journals. So I think you need check WP:OR. If you have a problem with this statement go see the user dab who is the admin most involved in Scythian issues. --alidoostzadeh 12:11, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Even though having all these sources you still fail to point out what it means to say "Scythians are Iranians." To what extend? Indepth information can only be retrieved from primary sources, and secondary sources referring to primary sources. The Britannica does neither and being a tertiary source contents itself to just using some general statements, that are supposed to be worthwhile but without serving a scientific purpose, as you say. Your superficial reverts assume a conflict between my edits and above statement, "Scythians are Iranian", that does not exist: Being Iranian, Scythians still can be of mixed culture, race, descend and even language. Worse, you turn sourced evidence upside down by suggesting any of your sources ever actually proved otherwise, or even intend to do so! No, I already pointed at an important current among scholars of those who agree about linguistic evidence being inconclusive and Iranian evidence being circumstantial. What's the big deal to you? If utterly untrue, like you claim it is: what prevents you from posting reliable and relevant sources that revoke all doubts about such Scythian Iranian purity? I'll tell you: such black and white thinking is not scientific UNLESS anyone could produce unequivocal evidence to the contrary. So why you refuse to serve truth and try at least to outline such an Iranian view? I'll help you:
Indo-Iranian influences on all Uralian languages point to an early common contact around the third millennium BC lasting to the first millenium (well before Scythian advent into the region).
Scythians inherited from Iranian and Indo-European culture. (although other influences have been noted and never been denied)
Scythian language probably was most related to Ossetian and "Saka" (but in this has not been sufficiently preserved to give a clou. Saka literature has been classified as Middle Iranian, as far as I know, what of course doesn't exclude Eastern Iranian identity, but such reasoning doesn't help much in describing the Scythians proper unequivocally at all periods of time everywhere. And above all: who does? Where?)
Scythian burials give a lot of information (but has also raised scholarly questions about local continuity that should not be denied)
Ali, if you try some effort and draw back this line of uncertaincy further I would take your reverts more seriously and your actions less disruptive. Notify me when ready for Talk and end this senseless deletion of sourced information. Rokus01 13:42, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Primary sources are Herodotus and etc. Primary academic sources are Britannica and what scholars write. Britannica is considered a primary source and it is in every university. You are quoting something from 1911 and I am quoting Britannica 2007. There is a big big difference. I do not have to quote Britannica 2007 and can quote equivalently 100's of sources. You still have not explained for the sake of fairness why you did not quote Mallory where he specifically says Scythians are Iranian. Again you are not a Scythian scholar. For the article I just have to quote scholars that have published academic papers and journals and books that Scythians are Iranian. I have already brought names and etymologies and all Scythian names and words have satisfactory Iranian etymology. Some very 100% clear even for a Persian speaker today. The sections you brought from Mallory previous did not say anything about Scythians. They are your own extrapolations. I have already referred you to enough sources. You are not going to be satisfied simply because I saw you call Hermatta (a world renown scholar) a liar and then also you did not quote Mallory's section on Sctyhians. If you have a problem with Scythians being considered Iranian by all scholars you need to write in academic journals making valid critism. Wikipedia is not the place. --alidoostzadeh 00:26, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Polish and Ukrainian words
Nasz wrote:
Polish and Ukrainian folk song call stepe people sokoli which is coherent with sound law derivative of skolo'nti or skolo'ci
This is complete nonsense. Modern Polish derivation from "Skolotes", Greek name for Scythians would be probably **szołoci. Sokoli is probably Ukrainian plural of sokół "falcon". Scythian Skuδa would probably become szeda in Polish. You really can't derive sokoli from any name for Scythians.
Nasz was already banned from the Polish Wikipedia for propagating pseudoscientific theories about Slavs, Scythians and genetics. Please watch him.--Al-Bargit 10:24, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
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Nasz wrote: "The highest frequency of R1a in Europe is encountered in Polish and Hungarian population and memorized in proverbial rhyme definietly known before era of genetic research."
Look R1a in Wikipedia. Ther you have a link secound link from top * Semino et al (2000), The Genetic Legacy of Paleolithic Homo sapiens sapiens in Extant Europeans, Science, Vol 290. In this published in Science paper, quite respectable, I belive, source exist "Table 1. Frequencies (in percent) of the haplotypes found in the examined European populations". You may read in rows Hungarian, Poles and in column EU19 respctively values 60%, 56.4 %. Highest value - yes.
If somebody may have a question what mean EU19 on the bootom of this table is lrgrnd "Eu19, M89-T, M9-G, M45-A, M173-C, M17(delG)". Consult Wikipedia R1a what it mean> In human genetics, Haplogroup R1a1 (M17) is a Y-chromosome haplogroup that is spread across Eurasia.
There are numerous other sources but the one is suficient to show that this grup of oponents dont know rather what they opose. Nasz 12:35, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Your word is not enough. I'll revert you for the second time. Please do not change the page until you show the sources about the alleged Scythian etymology of sokoli (not to mention the absurd Polish-Hungarian common ethnicity and other original ideas of your edits). --Friendly Neighbour 12:54, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
I'll add that the word "Scythian" or "Scyth" is never mentioned in the Science paper. Therefore it seems irrelevant to this Wikipedia article. By the way, the paper says about the Eu19 haplotype that it has been also observed at substantial frequency in northern India and Pakistan as well as in Central Asia. Its spread may have been magnified by the expansion of the Yamnaia culture from the “Kurgan culture” area (present-day southern Ukraine) into Europe and eastward, resulting in the spread of the Indo-European language. As Yamna culture is often identified with the late Proto-Indo-Europeans, it is no wonder that Indo-European Scythes could share it with any European nation (even if the language is not Indo-European as is the case of Hungarians) because of population mixing in during last millennium. The hight number of Eu19 in Poland or Hungary means simply that few of the inhabitants have ancestry other than Indo-European or Central Asiatic (which inhabitants also have hight Eu19 numbers according to the paper). It says nothing on any (true or false) Scythian ancestry. --Friendly Neighbour 13:20, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Nasz, you reverted my edit without replying to my arguments either here or on your Talk page (which you blanked twice since yesterday!). The edit you want to force here has no sources. To make it Wikipedia-worthy you would have to show, using respectable sources:
that common Y chromosome haplotypes between Poles, Hungarian and Ukrainians have anything to do with Scythes,
that the Pole, Hungarian, two good friends proverbial rhyme has anything to do with common ancestry of the two nations,
that "sokoli" is an ancient name for the steppe people and not simply hawks in Slavic languages.
Neither of the three part seems true and neither has been proved by your sources, a Science paper which never mentions the string "Scyth" in its text and therefore proves nothing about any nation's Scythian ancestry. The paper seem to prove that the nations that were late entrants into central Europe - Slavs (5-6th century) and Hungarians (9th century) - lack some haplotypes common for peoples that lived longer in the area. What does that prove about the Scythiian connection until someone studies Scythain burials for chromosome Y DNA? --Friendly Neighbour 11:58, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Nasz wrote:
Polish and Ukrainian folk song call stepe people sokoli which is coherent with sound law derivative of skolo'nti or skolo'ci
This is complete nonsense. Modern Polish derivation from "Skolotes", Greek name for Scythians would be probably **szołoci. Sokoli is probably Ukrainian plural of sokół "falcon". Scythian Skuδa would probably become szeda in Polish. You really can't derive sokoli from any name for Scythians.
Nasz was already banned from the Polish Wikipedia for propagating pseudoscientific theories about Slavs, Scythians and genetics. Please watch him.--Al-Bargit 10:24, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
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Nasz wrote: "The highest frequency of R1a in Europe is encountered in Polish and Hungarian population and memorized in proverbial rhyme definietly known before era of genetic research."
Look R1a in Wikipedia. Ther you have a link secound link from top * Semino et al (2000), The Genetic Legacy of Paleolithic Homo sapiens sapiens in Extant Europeans, Science, Vol 290. In this published in Science paper, quite respectable, I belive, source exist "Table 1. Frequencies (in percent) of the haplotypes found in the examined European populations". You may read in rows Hungarian, Poles and in column EU19 respctively values 60%, 56.4 %. Highest value - yes.
If somebody may have a question what mean EU19 on the bootom of this table is lrgrnd "Eu19, M89-T, M9-G, M45-A, M173-C, M17(delG)". Consult Wikipedia R1a what it mean> In human genetics, Haplogroup R1a1 (M17) is a Y-chromosome haplogroup that is spread across Eurasia.
There are numerous other sources but the one is suficient to show that this grup of oponents dont know rather what they opose. Nasz 12:35, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Your word is not enough. I'll revert you for the second time. Please do not change the page until you show the sources about the alleged Scythian etymology of sokoli (not to mention the absurd Polish-Hungarian common ethnicity and other original ideas of your edits). --Friendly Neighbour 12:54, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
I'll add that the word "Scythian" or "Scyth" is never mentioned in the Science paper. Therefore it seems irrelevant to this Wikipedia article. By the way, the paper says about the Eu19 haplotype that it has been also observed at substantial frequency in northern India and Pakistan as well as in Central Asia. Its spread may have been magnified by the expansion of the Yamnaia culture from the “Kurgan culture” area (present-day southern Ukraine) into Europe and eastward, resulting in the spread of the Indo-European language. As Yamna culture is often identified with the late Proto-Indo-Europeans, it is no wonder that Indo-European Scythes could share it with any European nation (even if the language is not Indo-European as is the case of Hungarians) because of population mixing in during last millennium. The hight number of Eu19 in Poland or Hungary means simply that few of the inhabitants have ancestry other than Indo-European or Central Asiatic (which inhabitants also have hight Eu19 numbers according to the paper). It says nothing on any (true or false) Scythian ancestry. --Friendly Neighbour 13:20, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Nasz, you reverted my edit without replying to my arguments either here or on your Talk page (which you blanked twice since yesterday!). The edit you want to force here has no sources. To make it Wikipedia-worthy you would have to show, using respectable sources:
that common Y chromosome haplotypes between Poles, Hungarian and Ukrainians have anything to do with Scythes,
that the Pole, Hungarian, two good friends proverbial rhyme has anything to do with common ancestry of the two nations,
that "sokoli" is an ancient name for the steppe people and not simply hawks in Slavic languages.
Neither of the three part seems true and neither has been proved by your sources, a Science paper which never mentions the string "Scyth" in its text and therefore proves nothing about any nation's Scythian ancestry. The paper seem to prove that the nations that were late entrants into central Europe - Slavs (5-6th century) and Hungarians (9th century) - lack some haplotypes common for peoples that lived longer in the area. What does that prove about the Scythiian connection until someone studies Scythain burials for chromosome Y DNA? --Friendly Neighbour 11:58, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Modern Scythian-related peoples
I wonder if modern Gelae (people of Gil-an in northern Iran), Baluch (from Pahla?) of Sistan (Sagastan = land of Saka) and some other modern Iranic peoples linguistically closely related to the first two, are related to the ancient Iranic Scythians. They speak related languages different than Persian; their original languages may have been influenced under thousands of years Persian domination. Keyxosrow 03:17, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
I think that noone in modern Iran is related to ancient Scythians. However, it is worth to mention that Scythians tribes, such as the Parni (founders of the Ashkaniyan dynasty) and Sakas (after whom the region Seistan is named), played an important role in the history of Iran, as very evident in Persia's national epic Shahnameh, in which Scythian heroes, such as Rustam, are the main characters. However, the Scythians - like all later Central Asian nomads, such as Turks or Mongols - were numerically a tiny minority. They had almost no genetical influence on the Iranian populations. Tājik 03:26, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Under `Descent-claims', should the Germanic tribe of Sicambri not be mentioned? They claimed a Scythian origin. The Sicambri later fused with other Germanic tribes to form the confederation of the Franks. (Hrothberht, 10 January 2007)
Hrothbert, the Sicambri should definitly not be mentioned, for it is not known they did claim a Scythian origin. As a matter of fact the Sicambri didn't leave written sources. Think about that. Johanthon, 02-02-2007, 10:20hrs —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.146.146.230 (talk) 09:20, 2 February 2007 (UTC).
I see I have formulated this wrongly. I meant that the Franks claimed the Sicambri were of Scythian descent. My bad. I have formulated it correctly in the article itself. If and only if you still disagree with what is written there, I am okay with you moving it to the talk page, since I think it should be at least discussed. Then, after hopefully some sort of consensus, it may (or may not, depending on the outcome of the consensus) be added to the article. Hrothberht 11:42, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
So did some of the Germanic Saxons (known as "Sachsen"/pronounced Saxen in German; note the similarity to Saka). There is some specualtion about a possible link between the terms Germani and Kermani (see J. Derakhshani). Tājik 22:25, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
that's all idle speculation, and rightly discussed under the header "descent-claims". dab (𒁳) 10:57, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Firstly "idle speculation" and "rightly discussed" seem somewhat contradictory. (Care to explain?) Secondly, these Germanic descent claims are not yet discussed under descent-claims, but since there are 3 of us that believe the link to be important enough, I presume this link may be mentioned? Hrothberht 22:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
The Saxons derive their name from a knife, the Seax. This seems to me to be fairly inconsistent with the etymology for the Scyths, since shooting and knives don't seem to have that much in common, unless the knife was named after Scyths. There might be a link, but there should be reputable sources for this to be mentioned.
There are a big mistake interpreting the Scythian name Skūthēs (Greek: Σκύθης), it is not connected with 'shooting' (Latvian: šaut < *ksjaut-), but rather with 'shaving' (Latvian: skūt 'to shave, to cut', skutulis 'a shaving knife' - from here the connection with Saxon name, if it's really derrived from the word seax; there is other version that Saxon < Saka son 'the son of Saka people', so Saxons could be descendants of Saka). So Scythians got their name because they were without beard, they were shaved. Roberts7 14:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
As for the link between the Germani and Kermani, the idea is interesting, but the German(!) pdf didn't make much clear to me, so I'll stay out of that one.
I will the reference to the Franks in the article. Hrothberht 19:23, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
In Iran, Northern Iranian peoples in general (Gilaks, Mazenderanis, Talesh, some Azeris) have Scythian ancestry (linguistic evidences remain today). Some say even Baluchis and Sistanis, but that remains only "etymologically" today.
I wonder if modern Gelae (people of Gil-an in northern Iran), Baluch (from Pahla?) of Sistan (Sagastan = land of Saka) and some other modern Iranic peoples linguistically closely related to the first two, are related to the ancient Iranic Scythians. They speak related languages different than Persian; their original languages may have been influenced under thousands of years Persian domination. Keyxosrow 03:17, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
I think that noone in modern Iran is related to ancient Scythians. However, it is worth to mention that Scythians tribes, such as the Parni (founders of the Ashkaniyan dynasty) and Sakas (after whom the region Seistan is named), played an important role in the history of Iran, as very evident in Persia's national epic Shahnameh, in which Scythian heroes, such as Rustam, are the main characters. However, the Scythians - like all later Central Asian nomads, such as Turks or Mongols - were numerically a tiny minority. They had almost no genetical influence on the Iranian populations. Tājik 03:26, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Under `Descent-claims', should the Germanic tribe of Sicambri not be mentioned? They claimed a Scythian origin. The Sicambri later fused with other Germanic tribes to form the confederation of the Franks. (Hrothberht, 10 January 2007)
Hrothbert, the Sicambri should definitly not be mentioned, for it is not known they did claim a Scythian origin. As a matter of fact the Sicambri didn't leave written sources. Think about that. Johanthon, 02-02-2007, 10:20hrs —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.146.146.230 (talk) 09:20, 2 February 2007 (UTC).
I see I have formulated this wrongly. I meant that the Franks claimed the Sicambri were of Scythian descent. My bad. I have formulated it correctly in the article itself. If and only if you still disagree with what is written there, I am okay with you moving it to the talk page, since I think it should be at least discussed. Then, after hopefully some sort of consensus, it may (or may not, depending on the outcome of the consensus) be added to the article. Hrothberht 11:42, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
So did some of the Germanic Saxons (known as "Sachsen"/pronounced Saxen in German; note the similarity to Saka). There is some specualtion about a possible link between the terms Germani and Kermani (see J. Derakhshani). Tājik 22:25, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
that's all idle speculation, and rightly discussed under the header "descent-claims". dab (𒁳) 10:57, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Firstly "idle speculation" and "rightly discussed" seem somewhat contradictory. (Care to explain?) Secondly, these Germanic descent claims are not yet discussed under descent-claims, but since there are 3 of us that believe the link to be important enough, I presume this link may be mentioned? Hrothberht 22:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
The Saxons derive their name from a knife, the Seax. This seems to me to be fairly inconsistent with the etymology for the Scyths, since shooting and knives don't seem to have that much in common, unless the knife was named after Scyths. There might be a link, but there should be reputable sources for this to be mentioned.
There are a big mistake interpreting the Scythian name Skūthēs (Greek: Σκύθης), it is not connected with 'shooting' (Latvian: šaut < *ksjaut-), but rather with 'shaving' (Latvian: skūt 'to shave, to cut', skutulis 'a shaving knife' - from here the connection with Saxon name, if it's really derrived from the word seax; there is other version that Saxon < Saka son 'the son of Saka people', so Saxons could be descendants of Saka). So Scythians got their name because they were without beard, they were shaved. Roberts7 14:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
As for the link between the Germani and Kermani, the idea is interesting, but the German(!) pdf didn't make much clear to me, so I'll stay out of that one.
I will the reference to the Franks in the article. Hrothberht 19:23, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
In Iran, Northern Iranian peoples in general (Gilaks, Mazenderanis, Talesh, some Azeris) have Scythian ancestry (linguistic evidences remain today). Some say even Baluchis and Sistanis, but that remains only "etymologically" today.
15 May 2016 04:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Barefact
Looks like the user Barefact under an ip address is trying to again distort the article and take out 14 or more scholarly sources which he does not like. The composition and lack of sources and unscientific method of writing essays gives it away. There are many good online sources on Scythians [6] that I hope to bring information fromto into the article. But writing constant unsourced dribbles definitely takes its toll on the article. --alidoostzadeh 15:54, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Since you already involved me in a similar suspicion: Who is User:Marmoulak doing your dirty work of reverting while abstaining from this discussion? Rokus01 11:24, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Dont make personal attacks WP:NPA, I will report you next time. I dont participate in the discussion because there is nothing to discuss. I reverted removal of sourced material and insertion of POV, I am acting according to Wikipedia policies and guidelines. - Marmoulak 15:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Mister nice guy, you'd better tell the truth: you removed my sourced material, I didn't remove anything and just added. Be careful, because assume good faith doesn't include lying. Rokus01 16:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I did assume good faith or else I would have considered your edits vandalism. the edits by Rokus01 that I reverted consisted of Insertion of sourceless material which is considered Insertion of POV and Removal of sourced material. You need to provide reliable sources (WP:V) for your insertions and stop throwing baseless accusations around. By the way I will revert your edits again if you dont abide by WP:V. - Marmoulak 20:28, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
calm down guys. I agree Rokus' outline of the archaeological situation was perfectly valid. The representation of the linguistic classification of Scythian as unsettled was however incorrect. dab (𒁳) 17:50, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Linguistic classification on linguistic arguments are less generally accepted or even available, unless understood as taken for granted. There are only a few indications to debate at all and Saka material can't be accepted. Zgusta might be an excellent linguist, but his work on Black Sea inscriptions is rarely refered to. Ossetic inscriptions (and language) already show nordern non-Indo-European influences, that should at least cast some doubts on the Scythian pureness. Feel invited to convince the reader and me, obviously something is missing.
Rokus01 07:19, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
your 14 scholarly references are all very well, but they are simply over the top. Of course you can pile on any number of references, because there is no dispute on the question. Just because there are some shoddy theories handed around on the internet, we shouldn't have to disfigure our articles by listing 14 footnotes in a row. The burden is with the "Turkic Scythians" side to present even one quotable reference, and then we'll discuss further. dab (𒁳) 11:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Somebody is speaking from both sides of the mouth. I would like to remind the participants that the article Scytho-Iranian Theory, that addressed history, literature, pros and cons of the theory, was deleted like a hot potato by a joint team of Iranians in a most bad faith fashion, without giving editors even a tiny chance to review, comment, or modify. In fact, there seems to be a need to have both Scytho-Iranian Theory and Scytho-Turkic Theory, which would present, in a balanced form, pros and cons, and get away from the doctrine-type enforcement. Targeted removal of archeological data, C14 dating data, genetical data, mentioning of alternate concepts etc. suggest that the doctrine is weak and can't sustain facing the facts of life. Barefact 20:59, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
You need to stop OR in wikipedia.. --alidoostzadeh 00:20, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Reference to Ice Maiden
This link goes to an Incan mummy, not to any Scythian reference. Is there an article in Wikipedia for the proper ice maiden? --Eraticus 02:18, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Looks like the user Barefact under an ip address is trying to again distort the article and take out 14 or more scholarly sources which he does not like. The composition and lack of sources and unscientific method of writing essays gives it away. There are many good online sources on Scythians [6] that I hope to bring information fromto into the article. But writing constant unsourced dribbles definitely takes its toll on the article. --alidoostzadeh 15:54, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Since you already involved me in a similar suspicion: Who is User:Marmoulak doing your dirty work of reverting while abstaining from this discussion? Rokus01 11:24, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Dont make personal attacks WP:NPA, I will report you next time. I dont participate in the discussion because there is nothing to discuss. I reverted removal of sourced material and insertion of POV, I am acting according to Wikipedia policies and guidelines. - Marmoulak 15:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Mister nice guy, you'd better tell the truth: you removed my sourced material, I didn't remove anything and just added. Be careful, because assume good faith doesn't include lying. Rokus01 16:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I did assume good faith or else I would have considered your edits vandalism. the edits by Rokus01 that I reverted consisted of Insertion of sourceless material which is considered Insertion of POV and Removal of sourced material. You need to provide reliable sources (WP:V) for your insertions and stop throwing baseless accusations around. By the way I will revert your edits again if you dont abide by WP:V. - Marmoulak 20:28, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
calm down guys. I agree Rokus' outline of the archaeological situation was perfectly valid. The representation of the linguistic classification of Scythian as unsettled was however incorrect. dab (𒁳) 17:50, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Linguistic classification on linguistic arguments are less generally accepted or even available, unless understood as taken for granted. There are only a few indications to debate at all and Saka material can't be accepted. Zgusta might be an excellent linguist, but his work on Black Sea inscriptions is rarely refered to. Ossetic inscriptions (and language) already show nordern non-Indo-European influences, that should at least cast some doubts on the Scythian pureness. Feel invited to convince the reader and me, obviously something is missing.
Rokus01 07:19, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
your 14 scholarly references are all very well, but they are simply over the top. Of course you can pile on any number of references, because there is no dispute on the question. Just because there are some shoddy theories handed around on the internet, we shouldn't have to disfigure our articles by listing 14 footnotes in a row. The burden is with the "Turkic Scythians" side to present even one quotable reference, and then we'll discuss further. dab (𒁳) 11:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Somebody is speaking from both sides of the mouth. I would like to remind the participants that the article Scytho-Iranian Theory, that addressed history, literature, pros and cons of the theory, was deleted like a hot potato by a joint team of Iranians in a most bad faith fashion, without giving editors even a tiny chance to review, comment, or modify. In fact, there seems to be a need to have both Scytho-Iranian Theory and Scytho-Turkic Theory, which would present, in a balanced form, pros and cons, and get away from the doctrine-type enforcement. Targeted removal of archeological data, C14 dating data, genetical data, mentioning of alternate concepts etc. suggest that the doctrine is weak and can't sustain facing the facts of life. Barefact 20:59, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
You need to stop OR in wikipedia.. --alidoostzadeh 00:20, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Reference to Ice Maiden
This link goes to an Incan mummy, not to any Scythian reference. Is there an article in Wikipedia for the proper ice maiden? --Eraticus 02:18, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sarts vs. Saks
I have recently grown very interested in research on human population genetics, such as human Y-chromosome DNA haplogroups, because of the potential it bears for resolving the prehistory of our ancestors and the evolution of the various ethnic groups and languages that we find in the world at present. I think that archaeology, historical linguistics, anthropology, and population genetics hold the greatest promise when they are used together to produce a higher resolution image of the history of the world's peoples.
In that connection, I have been wondering lately about the origin of the Mongolic and Turkic term "Sart," which seems to have traditionally been used to refer to sedentary agriculturalists in contrast to nomadic communities, and is also the autonym of a certain Mongolic-speaking minority group in western China. I have enough background as a student of history and an amateur linguist to know that it would not be difficult for a protoform like */sarmat/, */sarwat/, or */sarbat/ (c.f. Sarmatae) to change over the generations into a form like /sart/. Could it be that both the Turks and the Tajiks are not only descendants of Scythians, but descendants of particular subsets of Scythians?
As for the controversy over whether the Scythians were proto-Turkic or rather a branch of the Aryans, population genetics has certainly provided enough evidence to support a hypothesis that both the Turkic peoples of Central Asia/Siberia and the Aryan peoples of Central Asia/South Asia could share a great deal of recent common ancestry. Linguistic research into the histories and prehistoric origins of the various Aryan (Indo-Iranian), Indo-European, Altaic, and Uralic languages has also provided a basis for hypothesizing that all these myriad languages may share a common origin deep in antiquity. In fact, the emerging mainstream hypothesis among researchers who have been trying to reconstruct the prehistory of Homo sapiens sapiens is that all or nearly all the ancestors of modern peoples of Eurasia lived somewhere in India, Pakistan, Iran, or the Middle East as recently as 30,000 years ago. That is only about three times the age of the beginnings of Neolithic culture and perhaps a little under four times the age of the Indo-European language family. Actually, these results are not surprising at all when viewed in the light of archaeology: the inhabitants of Europe prior to approximately 30,000 years ago were all (or mostly) Neanderthals, and there is no unambiguous evidence for inhabitation of easterly places like China by anatomically modern humans prior to about 20,000 years BP (although there is, of course, the perennial controversy over the age of the Liujiang cranium), suggesting that early modern humans in East Eurasia might have kept to the southern coast and islands.
So, returning to my main topic, does anyone else think it might be possible that "Sart" and "Sak" derive from terms contrasting the sedentary, town-dwelling, ground-tilling and mercantile classes (Sart) with the nomadic, herding, hunting, and warrior classes (Sak), and that these terms might reflect an extremely ancient social division within the people of greater "Scythia"? Ebizur 14:03, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
The Sarmats were nomads, not settled people. TAWarner 21:20, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
state of this article
I've finally gotten round to look through this article. And considering the amount of debate that went into it, it was in a horrible state. I've cleaned up the worst bits, ToC wise, removing redundancies, html comments and obvious nonsense, but this still needs a bit of work before it deserves its "B" status... dab (ᛏ) 17:20, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
alright, I invested 2 hours(!) cleaning up, and I'd give it its 'B' now. dab (ᛏ) 18:42, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
I have recently grown very interested in research on human population genetics, such as human Y-chromosome DNA haplogroups, because of the potential it bears for resolving the prehistory of our ancestors and the evolution of the various ethnic groups and languages that we find in the world at present. I think that archaeology, historical linguistics, anthropology, and population genetics hold the greatest promise when they are used together to produce a higher resolution image of the history of the world's peoples.
In that connection, I have been wondering lately about the origin of the Mongolic and Turkic term "Sart," which seems to have traditionally been used to refer to sedentary agriculturalists in contrast to nomadic communities, and is also the autonym of a certain Mongolic-speaking minority group in western China. I have enough background as a student of history and an amateur linguist to know that it would not be difficult for a protoform like */sarmat/, */sarwat/, or */sarbat/ (c.f. Sarmatae) to change over the generations into a form like /sart/. Could it be that both the Turks and the Tajiks are not only descendants of Scythians, but descendants of particular subsets of Scythians?
As for the controversy over whether the Scythians were proto-Turkic or rather a branch of the Aryans, population genetics has certainly provided enough evidence to support a hypothesis that both the Turkic peoples of Central Asia/Siberia and the Aryan peoples of Central Asia/South Asia could share a great deal of recent common ancestry. Linguistic research into the histories and prehistoric origins of the various Aryan (Indo-Iranian), Indo-European, Altaic, and Uralic languages has also provided a basis for hypothesizing that all these myriad languages may share a common origin deep in antiquity. In fact, the emerging mainstream hypothesis among researchers who have been trying to reconstruct the prehistory of Homo sapiens sapiens is that all or nearly all the ancestors of modern peoples of Eurasia lived somewhere in India, Pakistan, Iran, or the Middle East as recently as 30,000 years ago. That is only about three times the age of the beginnings of Neolithic culture and perhaps a little under four times the age of the Indo-European language family. Actually, these results are not surprising at all when viewed in the light of archaeology: the inhabitants of Europe prior to approximately 30,000 years ago were all (or mostly) Neanderthals, and there is no unambiguous evidence for inhabitation of easterly places like China by anatomically modern humans prior to about 20,000 years BP (although there is, of course, the perennial controversy over the age of the Liujiang cranium), suggesting that early modern humans in East Eurasia might have kept to the southern coast and islands.
So, returning to my main topic, does anyone else think it might be possible that "Sart" and "Sak" derive from terms contrasting the sedentary, town-dwelling, ground-tilling and mercantile classes (Sart) with the nomadic, herding, hunting, and warrior classes (Sak), and that these terms might reflect an extremely ancient social division within the people of greater "Scythia"? Ebizur 14:03, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
The Sarmats were nomads, not settled people. TAWarner 21:20, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
state of this article
I've finally gotten round to look through this article. And considering the amount of debate that went into it, it was in a horrible state. I've cleaned up the worst bits, ToC wise, removing redundancies, html comments and obvious nonsense, but this still needs a bit of work before it deserves its "B" status... dab (ᛏ) 17:20, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
alright, I invested 2 hours(!) cleaning up, and I'd give it its 'B' now. dab (ᛏ) 18:42, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
You mean the Scythians just fell from the clear sky? Andronovo (not, "Androvo", mister scholar) has been archeologically established as the prehistoric culture where Scythians and other Eastern Iranian tribes originated, so this information is relevant. You can't compensate your claims to absolute truth without context and using vague sources that use an easy predicate to readers convenience and within a predefined context. Thus for your reasons your mentioning of the Brittanic and scattered phrases from a library is insufficient, you have to use primary sources to first delimit and then prove any particular view. Understanding this scientific principle is essential to any claim of truth, you just can't get away with some superficial statements without such understanding. I call it intellectual laziness, a pretext to pseudo-science and any kind of (political) abuse.
Try to convince me. You invalidate your point of view by trying too hard to avoid contextual information from circulating, like I discovered you do at the Saka subject as well. Start with delimiting Scythians. The Saka from Turkestan, and the Scythians/Sarmatians that according to the Classic Greek tradition roamed Ukraine, were genetically linked but not identical. On what do you base your assumtion they are identical? How mainstream are the sources you know? Where important scientists refer to this sources? Second, show me how convincing the facts are. Inscriptions? Where? In what language? What is the Scythian link? Most of their history Scythians (mostly on towards disappearance) did not have a written tradition and many "Scythian" inscriptions are Greek or Persian, so to start with we don't have enough primary material, for a language is much more than a collection of names. Many Americans are called John, or Micheal, or Danny, but it does not mean their language is Hebrew. Besides, not all Americans are called John, Michael or Danny, just like not all Scythians are called Aripharnes, Ariantes or Ariamanes. The Khotan literature is known for being Middle Iranian and received strong influences from Iran and India, the Scythian context is not clear nor established. The Ossetic inscriptions, or thought to be Alanic, are limited in geographical distribution and show foreign influences from the start, like Turkic and Uralic. Even though the Scythians are of Iranic descend and even though it is likely Iranian languages were used by them and important, everything points to a mixed culture. This point of view has been published by important scholars and is supported by archeology and cultural anthropology. No scientific publication of any importance exist that maintain the contrary. Your outspoken Aryen conclusions are not scientific, but rather politically suspect.Rokus01 08:19, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
I do not need to convince you but Scythians being Indo-Iranian is scientific as it is mentioned in every modern source. Ossetian and Alanic do not have Uralic influence. I am just quoting scholars. If you have a problem with Brtiannica 2007 and dozens of scholarly sources, it does not mean I have to convince you. I just have to quote them and make sure your POV interpretation (like what you tried to do with Mallory) does not sneak in. You are not a scholar and probably another psuedo-name of a previous user. If you have a source from a valid scholar from the modern day era (and not yourself) that scythians are Zulu or Hebrew or Turkic or Uralic, then bring it. I am not going to engange in more discussions as I have already referred you to the scholarly sources and there has even been an RFIC for this article. --alidoostzadeh 00:56, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Try to convince me. You invalidate your point of view by trying too hard to avoid contextual information from circulating, like I discovered you do at the Saka subject as well. Start with delimiting Scythians. The Saka from Turkestan, and the Scythians/Sarmatians that according to the Classic Greek tradition roamed Ukraine, were genetically linked but not identical. On what do you base your assumtion they are identical? How mainstream are the sources you know? Where important scientists refer to this sources? Second, show me how convincing the facts are. Inscriptions? Where? In what language? What is the Scythian link? Most of their history Scythians (mostly on towards disappearance) did not have a written tradition and many "Scythian" inscriptions are Greek or Persian, so to start with we don't have enough primary material, for a language is much more than a collection of names. Many Americans are called John, or Micheal, or Danny, but it does not mean their language is Hebrew. Besides, not all Americans are called John, Michael or Danny, just like not all Scythians are called Aripharnes, Ariantes or Ariamanes. The Khotan literature is known for being Middle Iranian and received strong influences from Iran and India, the Scythian context is not clear nor established. The Ossetic inscriptions, or thought to be Alanic, are limited in geographical distribution and show foreign influences from the start, like Turkic and Uralic. Even though the Scythians are of Iranic descend and even though it is likely Iranian languages were used by them and important, everything points to a mixed culture. This point of view has been published by important scholars and is supported by archeology and cultural anthropology. No scientific publication of any importance exist that maintain the contrary. Your outspoken Aryen conclusions are not scientific, but rather politically suspect.Rokus01 08:19, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
I do not need to convince you but Scythians being Indo-Iranian is scientific as it is mentioned in every modern source. Ossetian and Alanic do not have Uralic influence. I am just quoting scholars. If you have a problem with Brtiannica 2007 and dozens of scholarly sources, it does not mean I have to convince you. I just have to quote them and make sure your POV interpretation (like what you tried to do with Mallory) does not sneak in. You are not a scholar and probably another psuedo-name of a previous user. If you have a source from a valid scholar from the modern day era (and not yourself) that scythians are Zulu or Hebrew or Turkic or Uralic, then bring it. I am not going to engange in more discussions as I have already referred you to the scholarly sources and there has even been an RFIC for this article. --alidoostzadeh 00:56, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Racism, fascism and a discussion mysteriously gone
The statement that old sources are completely wrong in their preliminary conclusions should have been attested by scientific discussion and publications. Also, on this subject it has been claimed there is no discussion on the identification of Scythians as ethnically and linguistically (Eastern) Iranian. To me this two statements are irreconcilable. For instance, what Western scientist ever opposed the following once widely held and respected views:
In the book "The History of Civilization - The Aryans" from V. Gordon Childe (1892-1957 -Barnes&Nobles,New York,1993) it says on p38: "Many people hold that these Scyths were Iranian. The linguistic evidence, limited to a few proper names mostly of late date, is inconclusive. Archeologically, however, our people are well known. Undoubtedly Scythian art is strongly influenced by the Iranian - but it is not any specific Iranian art, Persian for instance, but has its own unique individuality.(...) The Scythian burial customs are, however, decisive. They are utterly different from those of the Iranians or Indians or any other Aryan people whatsoever.(...)On the other hand they find exact parallels among the non-Aryan Mongol nomads op Upper Asia throughout the ages as Minns (Scythians and Greeks, Cambridge, 1911, pp 88 ff) has amply demonstrated. This author treats the Scyths as Mongoloid forerunners of the Huns, Tartars, and Peschenegs, and that is no doubt right."
So if indeed nowadays "all" scientists (this excludes "of course" any scientist from Russia?! I wonder why this kind of racism is allowed here) oppose as violently against this view as here, why not even a Mallory mention these sources? In fact he does not mention the linguistic evidence at all. He mentions cultural, archeological and geographical context, but you have to be careful not to extrapolate this by yourself to the linguistic context. Why? Because language is independent of race and culture and can take prevalence or disappear by its own laws.
I want to be clear not to discuss the indo-european linguistic-, or even iranian linguistic roots. I repeat: Linguistic classification on linguistic arguments are less generally accepted or even available, unless understood as taken for granted (is this the real meaning of "there is no discussion?"). There are only a few indications to debate at all and Saka material can't be accepted (talking about the Scythians proper). Zgusta might be an excellent linguist, but his work on Black Sea inscriptions is rarely referred to. Ossetic inscriptions (and language) already show nordern non-Indo-European influences, that should at least cast some doubts on the Scythian pureness. Feel invited to convince the reader and me, obviously something is missing.
The steppes have always been in a transition process, eventually leading to the merging of Scythians into new identities. This process should be described, since it is vital to understanding the importance of the Scythians and their relation to the current situation, and vital to the understanding the Scythians did not represent the Indo-Europeans (and PIE) as much as fascism wanted (and still wants) to make believe.
Rokus01 06:54, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Using multiple users names won't work. By the way today is 2007, not 1957 or 1911. As per Scythians being mongloids, sorry, but I think the physical features are very clear by their art work. As per linguistic arguments, they are well accepted even by Mallory. If you are not satisfied by modern sources, it is not the fault of wikipedians. Don't throw around words like racism and fascism as if they are pokemon cards. Mallory is very clear by the statements I brought. It does not need your intrepretation or extrapolation. thanks--alidoostzadeh 07:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Ali, I think you are completely nuts - don't let me repeat things and don't accuse. Where do I look like anybody else, except in opposing your way of bullying about truth? By the way, you say that YOU think? I am asking for clear and valid sources here for your opposing the GENERALLY ACCEPTED CONCLUSIONS about the Scythian linguistic arguments being inconclusive to their linguistic identity! About the other thing, it took V. Gordon Childe a whole book to contradict pseudo-scientific bias about Aryans. I might come with a new chapter about this historical bias soon, as its actuality still seems to be amazingly high.
Rokus01 09:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
No that is not the generally accepted course or else you want not ask for trimming 14 sources (I can easily come up with 50+). As per linguistic evidence go read the scythian language article and sources within. I think just like the Enycclopedia Britannica 2007 does not compromise with psuedo-theoriest like yourself who even think Zulus and Chinese are possibility, no sane person in wikipedia will either. --alidoostzadeh 13:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Ali, this is getting tiresome. You lie, because I did not ask for trimming 14 sources. And now I see you were reverting again, and this is unacceptable after having received a third opinion. To me you are risking a regblok. Rokus01 14:05, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
By the way, I am still waiting for evidence telling the investigations of Ladislav Zgusta in his book "Die Personennamen griechischer Städte der nördlichen Schwarzmeerküste: Die ethnischen Verhältnisse, namentlich das Verhältnis der Skythen und Sarmaten, im Lichte der Namenforschung (Československá akademie ved. Monografie orientálního ústavu 16 ). Praha : Nakladatelstvi československé Akademie Ved 1955(!) changed the generally accepted view that the linguistic evidence about Scythians speaking an Iranian language is inconclusive. Who ever mentioned his work as a proof to the contrary, like Ali obviously does here? As far as I know the investigation involved the interpretation of some names mentioned in Greek inscriptions. Indo-Iranian roots to the Scythian identity can't be denied, but general statements about their ethnical or linguistical homogenity have never been made. To the contrary, the Scythians have been traditionally looked upon as being of mixed composition, so this still has to be corrected for in the article. Rokus01 11:59, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Scythians rose later than Androvo. Do not mix things up. I caught you ignoring Mallory's opinion of Scythians and deliberately not quoting the relavent portions about Scythians. That is sufficient enough. None of the pages you mentioned mentions Scythians as well. Scythian is linguistically considered Iranian . I have already mentioned enough sources and my job is not to convince everyone, but just users who are neutral. I have already brought some linguistic examples. Another reference: Compendium Linguarum Iranicarum. R. Schmitt. BTW coming up all of the sudden with a new i.d. is interesting. It's funny as soon as I sent Hermatta to someone you claimed Hermatta made up the term Khotanese Saka. Then you attacked bailey.. All these scholars are well known. If you need further assistance also see: Historical, Indo-European, and Lexicographical Studies: a festschrift for Ladislav Zgusta where Scythian is mentioned as Iranian in many articles written by experts. I have also brought etymologies of some Scythian names accepted by scholars. Thus since you are not a scholar and do not have the credible scholarly credentials, I take it that you want to add your POV edits. It won't work since user dab and other admins know the facts very well and their knowledge of Scythians is excellent. --alidoostzadeh 05:23, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
The statement that old sources are completely wrong in their preliminary conclusions should have been attested by scientific discussion and publications. Also, on this subject it has been claimed there is no discussion on the identification of Scythians as ethnically and linguistically (Eastern) Iranian. To me this two statements are irreconcilable. For instance, what Western scientist ever opposed the following once widely held and respected views:
In the book "The History of Civilization - The Aryans" from V. Gordon Childe (1892-1957 -Barnes&Nobles,New York,1993) it says on p38: "Many people hold that these Scyths were Iranian. The linguistic evidence, limited to a few proper names mostly of late date, is inconclusive. Archeologically, however, our people are well known. Undoubtedly Scythian art is strongly influenced by the Iranian - but it is not any specific Iranian art, Persian for instance, but has its own unique individuality.(...) The Scythian burial customs are, however, decisive. They are utterly different from those of the Iranians or Indians or any other Aryan people whatsoever.(...)On the other hand they find exact parallels among the non-Aryan Mongol nomads op Upper Asia throughout the ages as Minns (Scythians and Greeks, Cambridge, 1911, pp 88 ff) has amply demonstrated. This author treats the Scyths as Mongoloid forerunners of the Huns, Tartars, and Peschenegs, and that is no doubt right."
So if indeed nowadays "all" scientists (this excludes "of course" any scientist from Russia?! I wonder why this kind of racism is allowed here) oppose as violently against this view as here, why not even a Mallory mention these sources? In fact he does not mention the linguistic evidence at all. He mentions cultural, archeological and geographical context, but you have to be careful not to extrapolate this by yourself to the linguistic context. Why? Because language is independent of race and culture and can take prevalence or disappear by its own laws.
I want to be clear not to discuss the indo-european linguistic-, or even iranian linguistic roots. I repeat: Linguistic classification on linguistic arguments are less generally accepted or even available, unless understood as taken for granted (is this the real meaning of "there is no discussion?"). There are only a few indications to debate at all and Saka material can't be accepted (talking about the Scythians proper). Zgusta might be an excellent linguist, but his work on Black Sea inscriptions is rarely referred to. Ossetic inscriptions (and language) already show nordern non-Indo-European influences, that should at least cast some doubts on the Scythian pureness. Feel invited to convince the reader and me, obviously something is missing.
The steppes have always been in a transition process, eventually leading to the merging of Scythians into new identities. This process should be described, since it is vital to understanding the importance of the Scythians and their relation to the current situation, and vital to the understanding the Scythians did not represent the Indo-Europeans (and PIE) as much as fascism wanted (and still wants) to make believe.
Rokus01 06:54, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Using multiple users names won't work. By the way today is 2007, not 1957 or 1911. As per Scythians being mongloids, sorry, but I think the physical features are very clear by their art work. As per linguistic arguments, they are well accepted even by Mallory. If you are not satisfied by modern sources, it is not the fault of wikipedians. Don't throw around words like racism and fascism as if they are pokemon cards. Mallory is very clear by the statements I brought. It does not need your intrepretation or extrapolation. thanks--alidoostzadeh 07:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Ali, I think you are completely nuts - don't let me repeat things and don't accuse. Where do I look like anybody else, except in opposing your way of bullying about truth? By the way, you say that YOU think? I am asking for clear and valid sources here for your opposing the GENERALLY ACCEPTED CONCLUSIONS about the Scythian linguistic arguments being inconclusive to their linguistic identity! About the other thing, it took V. Gordon Childe a whole book to contradict pseudo-scientific bias about Aryans. I might come with a new chapter about this historical bias soon, as its actuality still seems to be amazingly high.
Rokus01 09:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
No that is not the generally accepted course or else you want not ask for trimming 14 sources (I can easily come up with 50+). As per linguistic evidence go read the scythian language article and sources within. I think just like the Enycclopedia Britannica 2007 does not compromise with psuedo-theoriest like yourself who even think Zulus and Chinese are possibility, no sane person in wikipedia will either. --alidoostzadeh 13:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Ali, this is getting tiresome. You lie, because I did not ask for trimming 14 sources. And now I see you were reverting again, and this is unacceptable after having received a third opinion. To me you are risking a regblok. Rokus01 14:05, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
By the way, I am still waiting for evidence telling the investigations of Ladislav Zgusta in his book "Die Personennamen griechischer Städte der nördlichen Schwarzmeerküste: Die ethnischen Verhältnisse, namentlich das Verhältnis der Skythen und Sarmaten, im Lichte der Namenforschung (Československá akademie ved. Monografie orientálního ústavu 16 ). Praha : Nakladatelstvi československé Akademie Ved 1955(!) changed the generally accepted view that the linguistic evidence about Scythians speaking an Iranian language is inconclusive. Who ever mentioned his work as a proof to the contrary, like Ali obviously does here? As far as I know the investigation involved the interpretation of some names mentioned in Greek inscriptions. Indo-Iranian roots to the Scythian identity can't be denied, but general statements about their ethnical or linguistical homogenity have never been made. To the contrary, the Scythians have been traditionally looked upon as being of mixed composition, so this still has to be corrected for in the article. Rokus01 11:59, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Scythians rose later than Androvo. Do not mix things up. I caught you ignoring Mallory's opinion of Scythians and deliberately not quoting the relavent portions about Scythians. That is sufficient enough. None of the pages you mentioned mentions Scythians as well. Scythian is linguistically considered Iranian . I have already mentioned enough sources and my job is not to convince everyone, but just users who are neutral. I have already brought some linguistic examples. Another reference: Compendium Linguarum Iranicarum. R. Schmitt. BTW coming up all of the sudden with a new i.d. is interesting. It's funny as soon as I sent Hermatta to someone you claimed Hermatta made up the term Khotanese Saka. Then you attacked bailey.. All these scholars are well known. If you need further assistance also see: Historical, Indo-European, and Lexicographical Studies: a festschrift for Ladislav Zgusta where Scythian is mentioned as Iranian in many articles written by experts. I have also brought etymologies of some Scythian names accepted by scholars. Thus since you are not a scholar and do not have the credible scholarly credentials, I take it that you want to add your POV edits. It won't work since user dab and other admins know the facts very well and their knowledge of Scythians is excellent. --alidoostzadeh 05:23, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mallory was clear. The fact that you did not quote his statements on scythians shows it. --alidoostzadeh 13:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
I want to express my support of the editors who address the lopsided tilt of the article and resent the belligerent policing methods used to enforce the Iranian doctrine, blanking referenced material and at best replacing it with a surrogate lip service. In the past, I have suggested to have an agreed upon table of contents that would facilitate non-prejudicial balanced and organized narrative much along the lines suggested by TAWarner. I would add here a suggestion for a clearing-house type of moderator, which would make the rv wars impossible to conduct, and would moderate extremistic and chauvinistic POVs. Any opposing POV's should have a place for expression and reference, either directly, or via a linked topic page. Is Mallory better than Gumilev? Who is a judge? I think that a balanced article should embrace opposing viewpoints and not be used as a podium for indoctrination. Barefact 02:03, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a democracy, it is based on scholarly sources and recent ones (within the last 30 years). So yes scholarly sources will be enforced, since you can not come up with one modern western scholarly source that claims Scythians were turkic. Such ideas do not exist in mainstream scholarship. TAWarner's username is gone and I wonder why? Multiple user names won't help anyone. Since facts speak louder. I could come up with 50+ mainstream Western sources that consider Scythians as Iranian. Mallory was another source and there is much more. --alidoostzadeh 13:22, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
you need to apologize for your incinuations and direct assaults that do not give credit to you or to your cause. Note that opposing editors try to reason with you as with a thinking person, no reason to go into rages. Use of demagogy like "modern western scholarly" where you are a judge of modernity, westernity and scholarity is what the participants are objecting to. Gumilev is too old? Ismaigulov is too old? G. Moravcsik is too old? Abaev is too old? This is precisely the reason why the article is lopsided and why we need a third-party objective mediator. Your funny 50+ mainstream Western sources somehow never read Abaev and his detailed analysis of the Ossetian, and in unison repeat that the language with non-IE Morphology, Lexicon, Semantics, Syntaxis, and Phonology belong to the Iranian type. It is not a problem that you (we) state that scientists class Ossetian as N.W.Iranian, because they do, the problem is that the opposing opinion like that by Abaev is censored out as though it does not exist or is irrelevant. WP may not be a democracy, but it is not a theocracy either, and opposing views must be presented if they are referenced and can be independently verified. So, lets go back to civility, find compromises, and be glad if we are kindly offered a third-party mediation. Barefact 20:49, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
You need stop your false intepretations.. Like stalin forced Abaev to claim Ossetic is Iranian!! Abaev clearly states Ossetic is Iranian and yet you disfigured his words.. I do not have to waste time with you. NO opposing views if they are not academic will be thrown out of wikipedia. Ossetic is not Iranian is not opposing viewpoint, it is psuedo-theory not even worth considering. Abaev clearly also states scythians, ossetians is Iranian. Your POV intrepreation of Abaev is considered OR. Note there won't be any compromise on the issue just like the Encyclopedia Britannica does not make compromises with every psuedo-theorist out there. --alidoostzadeh 01:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
I want to express my support of the editors who address the lopsided tilt of the article and resent the belligerent policing methods used to enforce the Iranian doctrine, blanking referenced material and at best replacing it with a surrogate lip service. In the past, I have suggested to have an agreed upon table of contents that would facilitate non-prejudicial balanced and organized narrative much along the lines suggested by TAWarner. I would add here a suggestion for a clearing-house type of moderator, which would make the rv wars impossible to conduct, and would moderate extremistic and chauvinistic POVs. Any opposing POV's should have a place for expression and reference, either directly, or via a linked topic page. Is Mallory better than Gumilev? Who is a judge? I think that a balanced article should embrace opposing viewpoints and not be used as a podium for indoctrination. Barefact 02:03, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a democracy, it is based on scholarly sources and recent ones (within the last 30 years). So yes scholarly sources will be enforced, since you can not come up with one modern western scholarly source that claims Scythians were turkic. Such ideas do not exist in mainstream scholarship. TAWarner's username is gone and I wonder why? Multiple user names won't help anyone. Since facts speak louder. I could come up with 50+ mainstream Western sources that consider Scythians as Iranian. Mallory was another source and there is much more. --alidoostzadeh 13:22, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
you need to apologize for your incinuations and direct assaults that do not give credit to you or to your cause. Note that opposing editors try to reason with you as with a thinking person, no reason to go into rages. Use of demagogy like "modern western scholarly" where you are a judge of modernity, westernity and scholarity is what the participants are objecting to. Gumilev is too old? Ismaigulov is too old? G. Moravcsik is too old? Abaev is too old? This is precisely the reason why the article is lopsided and why we need a third-party objective mediator. Your funny 50+ mainstream Western sources somehow never read Abaev and his detailed analysis of the Ossetian, and in unison repeat that the language with non-IE Morphology, Lexicon, Semantics, Syntaxis, and Phonology belong to the Iranian type. It is not a problem that you (we) state that scientists class Ossetian as N.W.Iranian, because they do, the problem is that the opposing opinion like that by Abaev is censored out as though it does not exist or is irrelevant. WP may not be a democracy, but it is not a theocracy either, and opposing views must be presented if they are referenced and can be independently verified. So, lets go back to civility, find compromises, and be glad if we are kindly offered a third-party mediation. Barefact 20:49, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
You need stop your false intepretations.. Like stalin forced Abaev to claim Ossetic is Iranian!! Abaev clearly states Ossetic is Iranian and yet you disfigured his words.. I do not have to waste time with you. NO opposing views if they are not academic will be thrown out of wikipedia. Ossetic is not Iranian is not opposing viewpoint, it is psuedo-theory not even worth considering. Abaev clearly also states scythians, ossetians is Iranian. Your POV intrepreation of Abaev is considered OR. Note there won't be any compromise on the issue just like the Encyclopedia Britannica does not make compromises with every psuedo-theorist out there. --alidoostzadeh 01:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Overall conclusion: the cultural identity of the Scythians might be derived culturally from neighbouring tribes sharing the Andronovo archeological background, but can't be identified completely with the other Iranian tribes from the steppes. Linguistic proof derived from neighbouring tribes thus can't be conclusive to the linguistic identity of the Scythians. They might have spoken an Iranian language, most probably their language was different from the Saka, and given the variety of the Andronovo culture, even non-Iranian languages can't be excluded. Linguistic evidence would depend wholly on Scythian sources and information. Unluckily, this information is fragmentary and could point with equal right to Chinese, Zulu or Spanish.
Rokus01 22:08, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Actually you are making interpretations of your own and directly ignored the explicit statements of Mallory and are not even quoting full sentences. I am wondering why you chose to ignore it?! Well here it is for the readers: The current distribution of Iranian, however, greatly belies its earlier expansion which included a vast portion of the Eurasion steppe. Reading from west to east we can include as Iranians speakers the major Iron Age nomads of the Pontic-Caspian steppe such as the Kimmerians(?), Scythians, Samartians and Alans.. Again we go to page 50: Moreover, the proposed migration route is precisely that which is historically attested for Iranian-speaking Scythians who penetrated from north of the Black Sea through the Caucasus and on into Southwest Asia. So when Mallory is this explicit, you can not make your own over all conclusion and intrepretation. (note if you were actually pursuing an scholarly approach, you would have stated these two). Thanks for reminding me, I might add Mallory later in the entry if necessary. As for unambigious linguistic evidence, not the wikipedia criterion is not for you to be satisfied. It is sufficient to just quote scholars and then up to you to look at the works of these scholars and find satisfaction. [5]. Check the book by Zgusta. --alidoostzadeh 04:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC).
You base your (outspoken) point of view on conclusions made by scholars without understanding their reasons why. Mallory is careful to base his statements on archeology and geography, not on linguistics. Read carefully and note I don't oppose Scythians making part of an Eastern Iranian culture, including a place for Iranian language. I oppose your reliance on linguistics and historical indications. These are too vague to be conclusive, prone to popular mistakes (like Saka being identical to Scythians and using Scythians as a misnomer to steppe people) and idealistic, thus making your approach unscientific. I wonder why you painstakingly avoid any reference to the archeology so laborously described by for instance this same Mallory. Like this, the article might be "yours", but not encyclopedic nor wikipedian. Rokus01 06:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
The linguistic evidence is more than clear as made explicit by Mallory also. Note he puts a question mark for Kimmerians and does not put one for Scythians. No one is arguing archeology, chariot and etc. Mallory has put Scythians in the indo-Iranian section of his book. The linguistic evidence is more than clear. Go read the book by Zgusta. If you don't want to read it, don't. But don't make up sentences and attribute them to Mallory. Overhwhelming reference makes it clear scythians are Iranians. Any attempt to connect to zulus or ... Andronovo culture and etc. as you said does not necessarily identify a group. Scythians are a branch of Indo-Iranian. Wether mallory thinks Andronovo is Indo-Iranian (which he does) or not, does not have an effect on the origin of Scythians. The linguistic evidence from Bistun, Herodotus, Alans (recorded by priests) and etc. makes it clear enough Scythians are Iranians. I understand some of the evidence after much time, but furthermore, I don't have to understand the reasons of scholars. I just need to quote them since their opinion is reflected in wikipedia. It is not up to you to make personal intrepretations of the opinions of scholars. Integrity actually demands that you quote all of what Mallory said about Scythians instead of cut and pasting what you like and then making a personal intepretation (OR). If you are not satisfied, it is not my problem since wikipedia reflects the opinions of scholars and not any POV. Also there is an archeology section in the article. You can write that some sites might reflect scythian culture , but you can not extrapolate from there that Scythians are not Iranians. That is OR and not Mallory's viewpoint (where he clearly wrote Scythians as of Iranian origin). Until you have not read the books by Zgusta and other sources I mentioned, you do not need to tell me why scholars consider Scythians of Iranian origin. Why don't you read it and find out instead of saying that the information could point to Chinese and Zulu or Spanish?? BTW Saka are Scythians as shown in Bistun inscription and Herodotus says the Persians call the Scythians as Saka. --alidoostzadeh 07:10, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
No, Ali, it's the way you read. In your quotes you overlook completely the hypothetical character of Mallory's statement, conveyed with the word "can". Quoting you miss the context easily, and this talk is about context. Here you make the very same unscientific mistake in translating hypothesis to fact, that bias this Scythian article all over. You can't write "THE Scythians ARE speakers of an Iranian language", using a source that formulates differently and explicitly builds up a specific context. Did you read the book? Are you aware of scientific articles that broadens the perspective to for instance the Uralians or the Slavic people, where they came into contact with Iranians that left their linguistic traces? Where did you leave the Indo-Europeans that already roamed the steppes to the east and to the west? Where did you leave everything else anywhere that wasn't Scythic? What knowledge do you pretend that is not even available? The word "is" belongs to pseudo-science. Your bias exclude what a serious investigator like Mallory would never exclude, even though it might involve off-topic facts or disciplines that he knows about or maybe vaguely suspect, not you nor anybody just reading him about this specific topic. My advise: don't funnel more than indicated by the writer, but you even scorn anybody who look around and so illegally contradict all other possible options. If you already have difficulties in transcribing one source, I don't want to imagine how this would extrapolate on 14. You just admitted one important thing: you can't know everything. That's the very reason why you can't take things so easily for granted, more so while reading badly and without understanding, and why you have to accept the contribution of others. This article should be reviewed completely, however (and even more so just because!) you reject. Rokus01 11:16, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Rokus01 22:08, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Actually you are making interpretations of your own and directly ignored the explicit statements of Mallory and are not even quoting full sentences. I am wondering why you chose to ignore it?! Well here it is for the readers: The current distribution of Iranian, however, greatly belies its earlier expansion which included a vast portion of the Eurasion steppe. Reading from west to east we can include as Iranians speakers the major Iron Age nomads of the Pontic-Caspian steppe such as the Kimmerians(?), Scythians, Samartians and Alans.. Again we go to page 50: Moreover, the proposed migration route is precisely that which is historically attested for Iranian-speaking Scythians who penetrated from north of the Black Sea through the Caucasus and on into Southwest Asia. So when Mallory is this explicit, you can not make your own over all conclusion and intrepretation. (note if you were actually pursuing an scholarly approach, you would have stated these two). Thanks for reminding me, I might add Mallory later in the entry if necessary. As for unambigious linguistic evidence, not the wikipedia criterion is not for you to be satisfied. It is sufficient to just quote scholars and then up to you to look at the works of these scholars and find satisfaction. [5]. Check the book by Zgusta. --alidoostzadeh 04:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC).
You base your (outspoken) point of view on conclusions made by scholars without understanding their reasons why. Mallory is careful to base his statements on archeology and geography, not on linguistics. Read carefully and note I don't oppose Scythians making part of an Eastern Iranian culture, including a place for Iranian language. I oppose your reliance on linguistics and historical indications. These are too vague to be conclusive, prone to popular mistakes (like Saka being identical to Scythians and using Scythians as a misnomer to steppe people) and idealistic, thus making your approach unscientific. I wonder why you painstakingly avoid any reference to the archeology so laborously described by for instance this same Mallory. Like this, the article might be "yours", but not encyclopedic nor wikipedian. Rokus01 06:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
The linguistic evidence is more than clear as made explicit by Mallory also. Note he puts a question mark for Kimmerians and does not put one for Scythians. No one is arguing archeology, chariot and etc. Mallory has put Scythians in the indo-Iranian section of his book. The linguistic evidence is more than clear. Go read the book by Zgusta. If you don't want to read it, don't. But don't make up sentences and attribute them to Mallory. Overhwhelming reference makes it clear scythians are Iranians. Any attempt to connect to zulus or ... Andronovo culture and etc. as you said does not necessarily identify a group. Scythians are a branch of Indo-Iranian. Wether mallory thinks Andronovo is Indo-Iranian (which he does) or not, does not have an effect on the origin of Scythians. The linguistic evidence from Bistun, Herodotus, Alans (recorded by priests) and etc. makes it clear enough Scythians are Iranians. I understand some of the evidence after much time, but furthermore, I don't have to understand the reasons of scholars. I just need to quote them since their opinion is reflected in wikipedia. It is not up to you to make personal intrepretations of the opinions of scholars. Integrity actually demands that you quote all of what Mallory said about Scythians instead of cut and pasting what you like and then making a personal intepretation (OR). If you are not satisfied, it is not my problem since wikipedia reflects the opinions of scholars and not any POV. Also there is an archeology section in the article. You can write that some sites might reflect scythian culture , but you can not extrapolate from there that Scythians are not Iranians. That is OR and not Mallory's viewpoint (where he clearly wrote Scythians as of Iranian origin). Until you have not read the books by Zgusta and other sources I mentioned, you do not need to tell me why scholars consider Scythians of Iranian origin. Why don't you read it and find out instead of saying that the information could point to Chinese and Zulu or Spanish?? BTW Saka are Scythians as shown in Bistun inscription and Herodotus says the Persians call the Scythians as Saka. --alidoostzadeh 07:10, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
No, Ali, it's the way you read. In your quotes you overlook completely the hypothetical character of Mallory's statement, conveyed with the word "can". Quoting you miss the context easily, and this talk is about context. Here you make the very same unscientific mistake in translating hypothesis to fact, that bias this Scythian article all over. You can't write "THE Scythians ARE speakers of an Iranian language", using a source that formulates differently and explicitly builds up a specific context. Did you read the book? Are you aware of scientific articles that broadens the perspective to for instance the Uralians or the Slavic people, where they came into contact with Iranians that left their linguistic traces? Where did you leave the Indo-Europeans that already roamed the steppes to the east and to the west? Where did you leave everything else anywhere that wasn't Scythic? What knowledge do you pretend that is not even available? The word "is" belongs to pseudo-science. Your bias exclude what a serious investigator like Mallory would never exclude, even though it might involve off-topic facts or disciplines that he knows about or maybe vaguely suspect, not you nor anybody just reading him about this specific topic. My advise: don't funnel more than indicated by the writer, but you even scorn anybody who look around and so illegally contradict all other possible options. If you already have difficulties in transcribing one source, I don't want to imagine how this would extrapolate on 14. You just admitted one important thing: you can't know everything. That's the very reason why you can't take things so easily for granted, more so while reading badly and without understanding, and why you have to accept the contribution of others. This article should be reviewed completely, however (and even more so just because!) you reject. Rokus01 11:16, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Origins (Third party review)
Anybody, please indicate what's not according to Mallory (until first note)or supply unambiguous linguistic evidence, otherwise the revert should be reverted inmediately. Rokus01 15:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Scholars generally accept Scythians to be an western offshoot of the steppe cultures that emerged around the second millennium or later in Central Asia, when most of its northern regions to south Siberia were occupied by pastural societies deriving, either from the eastern outliers of the Timber-grave culture, or the Andronovo Culture, the latter being a blanket term for a variety of steppe Later Bronze Age cultures. Inheriting attributes often demanded of any Indo-European culture, like domestic horse and base metallurgy, from earlier local cultures that were tied to the west by clear analogues in stockbreeding, ceramics, lithics, burial practices and physical type, but without clear connection to the local cultures to the north and east, the identification of those cultures as essentially Indo-Iranian seems fairly secure: even more so since by then the closely related Indo-Aryan branch had already emerged to the south. However, no exact correlation can be demanded especially between such a vague archeological culture and a single linguistic group. Even participation of less related groups can't be excluded, as can be attested by the survival of Tocharian to the east, probably also originating from there[1]. No unambiguous linguistic evidence to any extend is available. The general acceptance of Scythians being the speakers of an Iranian language and being classified as one of the Iranian peoples [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] is mainly due to their cultural context, expressed by for instance the archeological remains of chariots and sacrificed horses.
Some quotes from Mallory to sustain the above mentioned:
p22":Few, if any, archeologists would deny a general Indo-Iranian identity for most of the beares of the Andronovo culture"
p52:By the mid-second millennium BC, most of the northern regions of Central Asia were ocupied by pastoral societies deriving, either from the Timber-grave culture which was centered west on the Volga, or the Andronovo culture, a blanket term for a variety of steppe Bronze Age cultures hat emerged in Central Asia and south Siberia."
p53:The identification of the Andronovo culture and at least the eastern outliers of the Timber-grave culture as Indo-Iranian is commonly accepted by scholars. It is out of this steppe region that we derive the Scythians who pushed westwards..."
p53:As the eastern limits of the Andronovo culture extended all the way to the Yenisey river, Kirghiziya and Tadzhikistan, one might even be able to provide a not too distant source for the easternmost Iranians, the Saka." (note: the Saka being mentioned here as a separate tribe from the Scythians!)
p228: "The Indo-Iranian identity of the Andronovans is founded on both cultural and geographical evidence...the major cementery at Sintashta in the south Ural steppe. Here the remains of chariots and sacrificed horses clearly presage the later royal burials of the steppe tribes such as the Scythians, or their easterly Iranian cousins, who buried their dead in the spectacular chambers recovered from the Pazyryk cementrery of the Altai"
p62: "But we need not be so perverse as to demand an exact correlation between an archeological culture, especially one as vague as Andronovans, and a single linguistic group, and it is entirely possible that the ancestors of the Tocharians lurked behind some of those Andronovo variants that appear in the southeastern area of its distribution"
p53:It is often reasoned that since the steppe cultures date to the second millennium BC or later, it is most probable that they are (Proto-)Iranian rather than undifferentiated Indo-Iranians. Justification for this derives from our knowledge that Indo-Aryan had already emerged by the second millennium BC among the Mitanni.
p62:Prior to the Latter Bronze Age appearance of the Andronovo culture across the Central Asian-west Siberian steppe, there appeared an Eneolithic culture whose boundaries were apparently confined to the Minusinski-Altai region...This Afanasievo culture , dating to the third millennium BC, possesses many of the attributes that we often demand of any Indo-European culture - domestic horse, basic metallurgy ...it stands without any clear connection with the cultures to its north or east yet possesses clear analogues in ceramics, lithics,burial practices and physical type with the west, especially with the Volga-Ural region.
p227:.. the Andronovo culture. This, in fact, is a cultural label that embraces a series of local cultural groups...Today the concept of a unified Andronovo culture has been seriously challenged
Anybody, please indicate what's not according to Mallory (until first note)or supply unambiguous linguistic evidence, otherwise the revert should be reverted inmediately. Rokus01 15:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Scholars generally accept Scythians to be an western offshoot of the steppe cultures that emerged around the second millennium or later in Central Asia, when most of its northern regions to south Siberia were occupied by pastural societies deriving, either from the eastern outliers of the Timber-grave culture, or the Andronovo Culture, the latter being a blanket term for a variety of steppe Later Bronze Age cultures. Inheriting attributes often demanded of any Indo-European culture, like domestic horse and base metallurgy, from earlier local cultures that were tied to the west by clear analogues in stockbreeding, ceramics, lithics, burial practices and physical type, but without clear connection to the local cultures to the north and east, the identification of those cultures as essentially Indo-Iranian seems fairly secure: even more so since by then the closely related Indo-Aryan branch had already emerged to the south. However, no exact correlation can be demanded especially between such a vague archeological culture and a single linguistic group. Even participation of less related groups can't be excluded, as can be attested by the survival of Tocharian to the east, probably also originating from there[1]. No unambiguous linguistic evidence to any extend is available. The general acceptance of Scythians being the speakers of an Iranian language and being classified as one of the Iranian peoples [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] is mainly due to their cultural context, expressed by for instance the archeological remains of chariots and sacrificed horses.
Some quotes from Mallory to sustain the above mentioned:
p22":Few, if any, archeologists would deny a general Indo-Iranian identity for most of the beares of the Andronovo culture"
p52:By the mid-second millennium BC, most of the northern regions of Central Asia were ocupied by pastoral societies deriving, either from the Timber-grave culture which was centered west on the Volga, or the Andronovo culture, a blanket term for a variety of steppe Bronze Age cultures hat emerged in Central Asia and south Siberia."
p53:The identification of the Andronovo culture and at least the eastern outliers of the Timber-grave culture as Indo-Iranian is commonly accepted by scholars. It is out of this steppe region that we derive the Scythians who pushed westwards..."
p53:As the eastern limits of the Andronovo culture extended all the way to the Yenisey river, Kirghiziya and Tadzhikistan, one might even be able to provide a not too distant source for the easternmost Iranians, the Saka." (note: the Saka being mentioned here as a separate tribe from the Scythians!)
p228: "The Indo-Iranian identity of the Andronovans is founded on both cultural and geographical evidence...the major cementery at Sintashta in the south Ural steppe. Here the remains of chariots and sacrificed horses clearly presage the later royal burials of the steppe tribes such as the Scythians, or their easterly Iranian cousins, who buried their dead in the spectacular chambers recovered from the Pazyryk cementrery of the Altai"
p62: "But we need not be so perverse as to demand an exact correlation between an archeological culture, especially one as vague as Andronovans, and a single linguistic group, and it is entirely possible that the ancestors of the Tocharians lurked behind some of those Andronovo variants that appear in the southeastern area of its distribution"
p53:It is often reasoned that since the steppe cultures date to the second millennium BC or later, it is most probable that they are (Proto-)Iranian rather than undifferentiated Indo-Iranians. Justification for this derives from our knowledge that Indo-Aryan had already emerged by the second millennium BC among the Mitanni.
p62:Prior to the Latter Bronze Age appearance of the Andronovo culture across the Central Asian-west Siberian steppe, there appeared an Eneolithic culture whose boundaries were apparently confined to the Minusinski-Altai region...This Afanasievo culture , dating to the third millennium BC, possesses many of the attributes that we often demand of any Indo-European culture - domestic horse, basic metallurgy ...it stands without any clear connection with the cultures to its north or east yet possesses clear analogues in ceramics, lithics,burial practices and physical type with the west, especially with the Volga-Ural region.
p227:.. the Andronovo culture. This, in fact, is a cultural label that embraces a series of local cultural groups...Today the concept of a unified Andronovo culture has been seriously challenged
15 May 2016 04:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
7 - Analyzing the archeological and modern materials, the works of other scientists, I.M.Miziev specifically unfolds 15 Scytho-Türkic arheological and ethnological parallels:
1) Method of milking mares with a help of a bone tubule like a flute;
2) Method of cooking meat in stomachs of animals;
3) In the first legend about the origin of the Scythians during the Targitai reign to the Scythian ground from the sky fall gold subjects: a plough, a yoke, a poleaxe and a bowl [Herodotus, B. 4, 5] which coincide with the Balkarian names of constellations;
4) Scythian method of a fortune-telling on willow rods and
5) Scythian method of a fortune-telling on linden loofah were both preserved at Balkarians;
6) Method of forming kurgans (barrows - Translator's Note) (even the word "kurgan" is the Türkic "structure");
7) Custom of sending almost the herds of horses with the diseased;
8) Use of felt;
9) Method of manufacturing of the shields;
10) Method of scalping the enemies;
11) Practice of embalming the bodies of the diseased;
12) Funeral ceremony, i.e. the practice of carrying the body of the diseased leader from one tribe to another, and of burying together with the diseased of his horses or their parts;
13) Presence of the funeral timber chambers covered with timber logs;
14) Burial of the diseased in special wells-sarcophagi hollowed from large logs;
15) Cleaning ceremonies after the funeral of the diseased, i.e. so-called Scytho-Türkic baths with incense of the seeds of the hemp heated on the rocks.
Why would iranian people share something in common with people who, according to Iranists came from Altay & Mongolia only in 10-11 centuries?
8 - Why indo-european theory supporters think that all turkic are or were mongoloid? Most of modern day turkic peoples aren't mongoloid at all. I'm turkic of kazakh ancestry and I don't have anything mongoloid or siberian in my and my father's faces.
This eight notes are only few of the weaknesses of iranian theory. Many indo-europeanists should know that there were many turkic folks with much-speaking names such as qıwsaq, quman and qužan that translate "bright (pale) saka", "bright (pale) me, myself" & "bright (pale) zhans (huns, süns, şaŋs)" respectively. The ethnonyms starting on 'qıw-' could mean that these people were pale-skinned or had bright hair (the russians called cumans polovtsy, from old russian word polova - straw, chaff), this compaires with archaeological findings that shows us blue-eyed kushanians (qu-žan). There were people called sarı-kipçak or "yellow kipchaks" this could identify them as blonds since yellow is not represented in traditional turkic geographical colors (golden - center, blue - east, white - west, red - south, black - north) though some would argue that their name could mean "golden" since it resemebles yellow but this is strange since golden will be altın in most of turkic languages and in such case their name would be something like altın-kipçak.
In genereal I heard very few explanations of ethnonyms and toponyms from iranian theorists. But investigations from turkic persperctive were more resultative. This why I doubt very much about Indo-Iranian theory concerning scythian origins.
Before you attack me with many words of criticism I must tell you that you shouldn't trust every encyclopaedia you find, especially Britannica. Britannica came to the world in the darkest time for Science - XIX century, archaeology worked for interests of colonial empires, creating myths of 'high indo-european civilisation'. We all must enter new century of science & facts. We shouldn't take uncientific, chauvinistic theories of higher-races that were created to justify colonialism and oppression of native populations of Asia and Africa as basis for science. Iliassh (talk) 22:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
1) Method of milking mares with a help of a bone tubule like a flute;
2) Method of cooking meat in stomachs of animals;
3) In the first legend about the origin of the Scythians during the Targitai reign to the Scythian ground from the sky fall gold subjects: a plough, a yoke, a poleaxe and a bowl [Herodotus, B. 4, 5] which coincide with the Balkarian names of constellations;
4) Scythian method of a fortune-telling on willow rods and
5) Scythian method of a fortune-telling on linden loofah were both preserved at Balkarians;
6) Method of forming kurgans (barrows - Translator's Note) (even the word "kurgan" is the Türkic "structure");
7) Custom of sending almost the herds of horses with the diseased;
8) Use of felt;
9) Method of manufacturing of the shields;
10) Method of scalping the enemies;
11) Practice of embalming the bodies of the diseased;
12) Funeral ceremony, i.e. the practice of carrying the body of the diseased leader from one tribe to another, and of burying together with the diseased of his horses or their parts;
13) Presence of the funeral timber chambers covered with timber logs;
14) Burial of the diseased in special wells-sarcophagi hollowed from large logs;
15) Cleaning ceremonies after the funeral of the diseased, i.e. so-called Scytho-Türkic baths with incense of the seeds of the hemp heated on the rocks.
Why would iranian people share something in common with people who, according to Iranists came from Altay & Mongolia only in 10-11 centuries?
8 - Why indo-european theory supporters think that all turkic are or were mongoloid? Most of modern day turkic peoples aren't mongoloid at all. I'm turkic of kazakh ancestry and I don't have anything mongoloid or siberian in my and my father's faces.
This eight notes are only few of the weaknesses of iranian theory. Many indo-europeanists should know that there were many turkic folks with much-speaking names such as qıwsaq, quman and qužan that translate "bright (pale) saka", "bright (pale) me, myself" & "bright (pale) zhans (huns, süns, şaŋs)" respectively. The ethnonyms starting on 'qıw-' could mean that these people were pale-skinned or had bright hair (the russians called cumans polovtsy, from old russian word polova - straw, chaff), this compaires with archaeological findings that shows us blue-eyed kushanians (qu-žan). There were people called sarı-kipçak or "yellow kipchaks" this could identify them as blonds since yellow is not represented in traditional turkic geographical colors (golden - center, blue - east, white - west, red - south, black - north) though some would argue that their name could mean "golden" since it resemebles yellow but this is strange since golden will be altın in most of turkic languages and in such case their name would be something like altın-kipçak.
In genereal I heard very few explanations of ethnonyms and toponyms from iranian theorists. But investigations from turkic persperctive were more resultative. This why I doubt very much about Indo-Iranian theory concerning scythian origins.
Before you attack me with many words of criticism I must tell you that you shouldn't trust every encyclopaedia you find, especially Britannica. Britannica came to the world in the darkest time for Science - XIX century, archaeology worked for interests of colonial empires, creating myths of 'high indo-european civilisation'. We all must enter new century of science & facts. We shouldn't take uncientific, chauvinistic theories of higher-races that were created to justify colonialism and oppression of native populations of Asia and Africa as basis for science. Iliassh (talk) 22:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
You can make up all the stuff you want as I do not have time. Facts are that you are not scholar and wikipedia will reflect scholarly opinion. By the way read the above carefully, an-nar is not the name of a person, but an effeminate class in scythian society. --alidoostzadeh 03:23, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Strange, considering todays revert some people here seem to be keen on their outspoken point of view, without supplying any scientific explanation or distance. I don't know the person who did this, just that this Marmoulak reverted without discussion and - according to the complaints already filed on his own discussion page - probably out of habit. Since I supplied to the article some valid context information about the archeological identification of the Scythians, retrieved from a source already well known to the participants, I've undone the revert. If necessary anybody can discuss this here, or extend the information with relevant linguistic facts. Regards, Rokus01 11:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
The article is sourced by 14 Professors and you have to refer to their article. If you do not have those sources, no one is responsible in wikipedia to expalin them to you to satisfy your curiosity. Go to a library and obtain them. You do not have the necessary background to make decision about origins of Scythians, since you are not a qualified academic to do so. The information is provided is in many sources, and it is not up to you to make a judgment about it since you lack the scholarly credentials to do so. As per linguistic facts, see the scythian language article, some of the information has been provided in the articles referenced (Zgusta, Oswlad Szemerényi..). If you do not have the necessary academic and linguistic background, you can not just make an opinion. If you do not have access to the sources provided, it not up to other users to take materials from there and put it here. Although in due time, this might happen, but it is not necessary. Multi user names will not help either. Also Tocharian is related to the Centum languages. And provide a page from mallory for any claims. I have his book right now.--alidoostzadeh 12:45, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Ali, this is no way to discuss with people. There's no point in accusing me of crazy things like multi-user, like you seem to accuse TAWarner too. Ask Barefact, or administration, not me. Stick to the facts, to me you are wrong, you still didn't answer anything nor didn't you show scientific skills. Nice you have this book of Mallory in front of you, then read it instead of reverting first! Since you have a flawed way to read facts anyway and you didn't answer mine nor other calls, I will repeat my contribution below for a third party opinion. Rokus01 15:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
I have a big bunch of doubts and suspicions in Indo-Iranian origins of Scythian and theory itself. First of all I can't understand why most of respectable western scientists with strong reputations are so inflexible & adamant-like in their assurance that Scythians & Sakae are Indo-Iranians. Rejection of new theories and hypotesises is not scientific kind of attitude. Second, why scientists and professors that disagree with this particular theory and that consider Scythians more likely to be turkic or at least somehow related to turkic rather than iranian are being labeled as "pan-turkists" or unscientifical fabricators. This is a big mistake, mistake that may have high costs for modern theorists.
I found Indo-Iranian theory unacceptable, this is why:
1 - If the Scythians and Sarmatians were Persian-lingual, then the Assyrian, Greek, Roman, Chinese etc. ancient historians could not fail to address it, in fact they knew well both the Persians, and the Scythians-Sarmatians. In the descriptions of these peoples they necessarily would somehow note the similarity or affinity of the Persian and the "Scythian" languages. But we do not find even a hint on it in the ancient writers? At the same time there are many cases of identification of the Scythians, Sarmatians and Alans with various Türkic-speaking tribes. (M.Zakiyev)
2 - Why didn't Herodotus mention similarities between horse-breeding Scythians and civilized, settled Persians?
3 - How Scythians could have straight brown ('indo-european') and sometimes even ginger & blond hair and pale skins by living in such arid desert and steppe while all persians, according to archaeological findings were dark-skinned with curly black hair?
4 - A crucial role in the Indo-Iranian attribution is given to Veda. Everywhere, where the Caucasian remains are found, works the irrefutable logical chain of the site-artifact-Veda-Iranian language. The Caucasians are determined by their noses. A flat face produces a Mongoloid, and a flaring nose produces a Caucasian, invariably an Iranian/Ossetian speaking. An Iranian Caucasian, taking a Mongoloid wife, produces a Caucasian Iranian/Ossetian speaking male offspring, and a Mongoloid daughter of unattributable descent. The expeditions, investigating the Scythian territories, like a lasting Khoresmian Expedition, invariably discover a layer of the Caucasian Iranian speaking stock, proving over again the Ossetian nature of the Scythians. Never mind that Ammianus called the Persians subnigri. Never mind that the definitely Europoid Scythians were often depicted with thin beards (H. Schoppa 1933, 21-22). In 443 AD the Alans of Sapaudia (Lyon) showed a Mongoloid strain. Never mind individuals of the South Siberian type were among the Sarmatians at Kalinovka in the Volga region. There must be Iranian black subnigri and white subnigri, Iranian Mongoloids and Iranian South Siberians. They've got to fit the Iranian doctrine. And like in the other instances, most of the Slavic ends were frequently produced using non-Slavic people in the service of the Slavic-dominated state.
5 - Generations of scientists of all disciplines participated in the Russian Scythian studies. Initially, the Indo-European classification of the Scythians had a weak justification, and it had to develop against the accepted beliefs based on the evidence of the contemporaries. At the same time, it was fitting well into the German and Russian nationalist agenda, providing a pedigree of traceability extending beyond the Bronze Age. In the last 160 years, which passed since 1837, was developed the linguistical and anthropological evidence necessary to convert a maverick idea into a postulate widely accepted by the scientific community.
6 - In ancient sources we are finding the meanings of some Scythian words, sometimes there are attempts to etymologize them. However the comments of the ancient sources frequently do not give in to be explained from the viewpoint of the Iranian languages. Then the Iranists just save the face and simply declare that the ancient Greek historians, including Herodotus, ostensibly did not know the Scythian language. Here is a paradox for you: the contemporaries of the Scythians, who communicated with them directly, did not have an idea about the character of the Scythian language, but our contemporaries-scientists present it precisely!! Thus, recognizing Herodotus as an outstanding historian and ethnographer, they consider him to be a frivolous linguist [Boruhovich V.G., 1972, 482, 493]. There is no doubt that if the Herodotus' etymologies were subjected to the study from the viewpoint of polyethnicity of the Scythian tribes, the scientific diligence of Herodotus, and the soundness of his linguistic descriptions of the Scythian peoples, would surely prove to be true. (M.Zakiyev)
Strange, considering todays revert some people here seem to be keen on their outspoken point of view, without supplying any scientific explanation or distance. I don't know the person who did this, just that this Marmoulak reverted without discussion and - according to the complaints already filed on his own discussion page - probably out of habit. Since I supplied to the article some valid context information about the archeological identification of the Scythians, retrieved from a source already well known to the participants, I've undone the revert. If necessary anybody can discuss this here, or extend the information with relevant linguistic facts. Regards, Rokus01 11:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
The article is sourced by 14 Professors and you have to refer to their article. If you do not have those sources, no one is responsible in wikipedia to expalin them to you to satisfy your curiosity. Go to a library and obtain them. You do not have the necessary background to make decision about origins of Scythians, since you are not a qualified academic to do so. The information is provided is in many sources, and it is not up to you to make a judgment about it since you lack the scholarly credentials to do so. As per linguistic facts, see the scythian language article, some of the information has been provided in the articles referenced (Zgusta, Oswlad Szemerényi..). If you do not have the necessary academic and linguistic background, you can not just make an opinion. If you do not have access to the sources provided, it not up to other users to take materials from there and put it here. Although in due time, this might happen, but it is not necessary. Multi user names will not help either. Also Tocharian is related to the Centum languages. And provide a page from mallory for any claims. I have his book right now.--alidoostzadeh 12:45, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Ali, this is no way to discuss with people. There's no point in accusing me of crazy things like multi-user, like you seem to accuse TAWarner too. Ask Barefact, or administration, not me. Stick to the facts, to me you are wrong, you still didn't answer anything nor didn't you show scientific skills. Nice you have this book of Mallory in front of you, then read it instead of reverting first! Since you have a flawed way to read facts anyway and you didn't answer mine nor other calls, I will repeat my contribution below for a third party opinion. Rokus01 15:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
I have a big bunch of doubts and suspicions in Indo-Iranian origins of Scythian and theory itself. First of all I can't understand why most of respectable western scientists with strong reputations are so inflexible & adamant-like in their assurance that Scythians & Sakae are Indo-Iranians. Rejection of new theories and hypotesises is not scientific kind of attitude. Second, why scientists and professors that disagree with this particular theory and that consider Scythians more likely to be turkic or at least somehow related to turkic rather than iranian are being labeled as "pan-turkists" or unscientifical fabricators. This is a big mistake, mistake that may have high costs for modern theorists.
I found Indo-Iranian theory unacceptable, this is why:
1 - If the Scythians and Sarmatians were Persian-lingual, then the Assyrian, Greek, Roman, Chinese etc. ancient historians could not fail to address it, in fact they knew well both the Persians, and the Scythians-Sarmatians. In the descriptions of these peoples they necessarily would somehow note the similarity or affinity of the Persian and the "Scythian" languages. But we do not find even a hint on it in the ancient writers? At the same time there are many cases of identification of the Scythians, Sarmatians and Alans with various Türkic-speaking tribes. (M.Zakiyev)
2 - Why didn't Herodotus mention similarities between horse-breeding Scythians and civilized, settled Persians?
3 - How Scythians could have straight brown ('indo-european') and sometimes even ginger & blond hair and pale skins by living in such arid desert and steppe while all persians, according to archaeological findings were dark-skinned with curly black hair?
4 - A crucial role in the Indo-Iranian attribution is given to Veda. Everywhere, where the Caucasian remains are found, works the irrefutable logical chain of the site-artifact-Veda-Iranian language. The Caucasians are determined by their noses. A flat face produces a Mongoloid, and a flaring nose produces a Caucasian, invariably an Iranian/Ossetian speaking. An Iranian Caucasian, taking a Mongoloid wife, produces a Caucasian Iranian/Ossetian speaking male offspring, and a Mongoloid daughter of unattributable descent. The expeditions, investigating the Scythian territories, like a lasting Khoresmian Expedition, invariably discover a layer of the Caucasian Iranian speaking stock, proving over again the Ossetian nature of the Scythians. Never mind that Ammianus called the Persians subnigri. Never mind that the definitely Europoid Scythians were often depicted with thin beards (H. Schoppa 1933, 21-22). In 443 AD the Alans of Sapaudia (Lyon) showed a Mongoloid strain. Never mind individuals of the South Siberian type were among the Sarmatians at Kalinovka in the Volga region. There must be Iranian black subnigri and white subnigri, Iranian Mongoloids and Iranian South Siberians. They've got to fit the Iranian doctrine. And like in the other instances, most of the Slavic ends were frequently produced using non-Slavic people in the service of the Slavic-dominated state.
5 - Generations of scientists of all disciplines participated in the Russian Scythian studies. Initially, the Indo-European classification of the Scythians had a weak justification, and it had to develop against the accepted beliefs based on the evidence of the contemporaries. At the same time, it was fitting well into the German and Russian nationalist agenda, providing a pedigree of traceability extending beyond the Bronze Age. In the last 160 years, which passed since 1837, was developed the linguistical and anthropological evidence necessary to convert a maverick idea into a postulate widely accepted by the scientific community.
6 - In ancient sources we are finding the meanings of some Scythian words, sometimes there are attempts to etymologize them. However the comments of the ancient sources frequently do not give in to be explained from the viewpoint of the Iranian languages. Then the Iranists just save the face and simply declare that the ancient Greek historians, including Herodotus, ostensibly did not know the Scythian language. Here is a paradox for you: the contemporaries of the Scythians, who communicated with them directly, did not have an idea about the character of the Scythian language, but our contemporaries-scientists present it precisely!! Thus, recognizing Herodotus as an outstanding historian and ethnographer, they consider him to be a frivolous linguist [Boruhovich V.G., 1972, 482, 493]. There is no doubt that if the Herodotus' etymologies were subjected to the study from the viewpoint of polyethnicity of the Scythian tribes, the scientific diligence of Herodotus, and the soundness of his linguistic descriptions of the Scythian peoples, would surely prove to be true. (M.Zakiyev)
15 May 2016 04:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Scythian language is pretty certain. Middle Scythian or Saka Khotanese has well defined literature. So archeology is not the only thing at work here. Names likes Aripharnes, Ariantes, Ariamanes ..mentioned by Greek sources for Scythians have their direct counter-part in Old Persian (the same basically). In Wikipedia we follow what scholars of the field who have published on the matter say. That is the neutral scientific view. (Check Encyclopedia Britannica, Cambridge history on Iran, Central Asian studies..) etc.--alidoostzadeh 03:50, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
I checked the Britannica and indeed they are pretty explicit in their conclusions. However, I have read older editions of very sofisticated encyclopedia's with similar explicit statements that proved to be wrong. In reality there is a mix up between people and culture. I don't think it a very scientific custom to identify archeological strata with a homogeneous people, especially not where it involves such a huge area - from eastern europe to mongolia and south to Afghanistan and Iran - that has only been in contact with history on two edges. Influence of Greece and Persia was huge, like the Roman influence on Germanic tribes (resulting in Latin names like Claudius Civilis) and just the observation those Scythian names are almost exactly Old Persian should make us wary. So they spoke Old Persian and not even their own Iranian dialect or -language? At least a sound degree of heterogenity within the Scythian culture has been suggested by several scholars, a few remarkable non -Indo-European characteristics have been observed and especially more inside this vast area the picture becomes blurred. Few is known about the Pazyryk culture, but as long as local continuity can't be excluded full identification of something outlandish is tricky. Especially because we don't know enough about the previous Indo-European migrations towards the area, already represented with the far older blond mummies around the Tarim. The Indo-Europeans that passed there before were certainly more related to boring things like agriculture and small farming than horseriding, were not Scythian and eventually mixed with the locals. I don't mind the ten or twenty books or sources mentioned here that take for granted the Iranian identity of the Scythians, one aping the other (as far as we can speak of one political unity and excluding the posibility of a misnomer like "indians" or "tartarian" for a people that basically didn't relate to anything else known to the observers); I do mind the scientific base of such an assumption. This base is not as solid as assumed in this article, and the proof is not as abundant. At least the base of such an assumption should be outlined in a separate paragraph. Kind regards, Rokus01 18:01, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
It is not true that there is no debate among scholars. The main debate is between supporters of the kurgan hypothesis of Indo-European origins, who tend to believe that Scythians were Iranian or at least Indo-European, and supporters of the Anatolian hypothesis of Indo-European origins, who are generally agnostic about the language spoken by the Scythians. On the fringes, there is of course a much more lively debate between Iranian nationalists who believe Indo-European languages originated in Iran, and Turkish nationalists who somehow manage to trace their roots through the Scythians back to Sumeria. Unfortunately this latter debate seems to have dominated Wikipedia till now, and the Iranian nationalists are apparently celebrating their victory. Personally I'm agnostic.
The web edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica does indeed say that Scythians were "of Iranian stock", but on what grounds? I presume, on the grounds of the kurgan hypothesis.
I repeat, there is no surviving linguistic material for Scythian language(s), other than the handful of words reported by Herodotus, which are not similar to any language, and some reported names of Scythian kings, the vast majority of which are not similar to any Persian names and do not contain any obvious Persian word components.
If there's a "well developed literature" in Scythian than my name is Borat. There are no known texts written in any Scythian language, neither early, middle or late. Zero. None. There are a few inscriptions which *might* be in a Scythian language, such as the Issyk Kul inscription, but they have not been deciphered by any mainstream scholar. No one knows what language they are written in. There are also some 50 non-Greek words that appear in Greek inscriptions in Ukraine and Russia, which *might* be borrow words from Scythian languages, or *might* be Scythian names, but there is no way to know what they are, and certainly no way to decipher them. The only certain record of a language that might be considered Scythian is the 15th century Jasz word book, recording a language spoken by a steppe people who fled before the Mongols to Hungary in the 13th century. They spoke a language extremely similar to Ossetian (a mix of Iranian and Caucasian plus some Turkic words), indicating a likely origin from the north Caucasus region.
No linguist has identified any Scythian language in any peer-reviewed journal. That won't happen until somebody finds some linguistic material that would serve as a basis for identification. The sources cited by the author are either not peer-reviewed, or are not linguists. Many mainstream Indo-Europeanists believe Scythians were Iranian on the basis of the kurgan hypothesis of Indo-European origins, but none have put forward any direct evidence that Scythians were Iranian.
"Saka Khotanese" is an invention of a fringe academic (Harmatta), which he uses to describe the language he believes he sees in the Issyk Kul inscription. Although the short Issyk Kul inscription looks runeiform, he imagines that it is a version of the curvy north Indian Kharosthi script that was used by Indo-Saka kings on one side of their coins (to write a Prakrit language - all surviving Indo-Saka writing is either Greek or Prakrit). Even if Harmatta were right, one twenty-character inscription would hardly constitute a "well developed literature".
I checked the Britannica and indeed they are pretty explicit in their conclusions. However, I have read older editions of very sofisticated encyclopedia's with similar explicit statements that proved to be wrong. In reality there is a mix up between people and culture. I don't think it a very scientific custom to identify archeological strata with a homogeneous people, especially not where it involves such a huge area - from eastern europe to mongolia and south to Afghanistan and Iran - that has only been in contact with history on two edges. Influence of Greece and Persia was huge, like the Roman influence on Germanic tribes (resulting in Latin names like Claudius Civilis) and just the observation those Scythian names are almost exactly Old Persian should make us wary. So they spoke Old Persian and not even their own Iranian dialect or -language? At least a sound degree of heterogenity within the Scythian culture has been suggested by several scholars, a few remarkable non -Indo-European characteristics have been observed and especially more inside this vast area the picture becomes blurred. Few is known about the Pazyryk culture, but as long as local continuity can't be excluded full identification of something outlandish is tricky. Especially because we don't know enough about the previous Indo-European migrations towards the area, already represented with the far older blond mummies around the Tarim. The Indo-Europeans that passed there before were certainly more related to boring things like agriculture and small farming than horseriding, were not Scythian and eventually mixed with the locals. I don't mind the ten or twenty books or sources mentioned here that take for granted the Iranian identity of the Scythians, one aping the other (as far as we can speak of one political unity and excluding the posibility of a misnomer like "indians" or "tartarian" for a people that basically didn't relate to anything else known to the observers); I do mind the scientific base of such an assumption. This base is not as solid as assumed in this article, and the proof is not as abundant. At least the base of such an assumption should be outlined in a separate paragraph. Kind regards, Rokus01 18:01, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
It is not true that there is no debate among scholars. The main debate is between supporters of the kurgan hypothesis of Indo-European origins, who tend to believe that Scythians were Iranian or at least Indo-European, and supporters of the Anatolian hypothesis of Indo-European origins, who are generally agnostic about the language spoken by the Scythians. On the fringes, there is of course a much more lively debate between Iranian nationalists who believe Indo-European languages originated in Iran, and Turkish nationalists who somehow manage to trace their roots through the Scythians back to Sumeria. Unfortunately this latter debate seems to have dominated Wikipedia till now, and the Iranian nationalists are apparently celebrating their victory. Personally I'm agnostic.
The web edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica does indeed say that Scythians were "of Iranian stock", but on what grounds? I presume, on the grounds of the kurgan hypothesis.
I repeat, there is no surviving linguistic material for Scythian language(s), other than the handful of words reported by Herodotus, which are not similar to any language, and some reported names of Scythian kings, the vast majority of which are not similar to any Persian names and do not contain any obvious Persian word components.
If there's a "well developed literature" in Scythian than my name is Borat. There are no known texts written in any Scythian language, neither early, middle or late. Zero. None. There are a few inscriptions which *might* be in a Scythian language, such as the Issyk Kul inscription, but they have not been deciphered by any mainstream scholar. No one knows what language they are written in. There are also some 50 non-Greek words that appear in Greek inscriptions in Ukraine and Russia, which *might* be borrow words from Scythian languages, or *might* be Scythian names, but there is no way to know what they are, and certainly no way to decipher them. The only certain record of a language that might be considered Scythian is the 15th century Jasz word book, recording a language spoken by a steppe people who fled before the Mongols to Hungary in the 13th century. They spoke a language extremely similar to Ossetian (a mix of Iranian and Caucasian plus some Turkic words), indicating a likely origin from the north Caucasus region.
No linguist has identified any Scythian language in any peer-reviewed journal. That won't happen until somebody finds some linguistic material that would serve as a basis for identification. The sources cited by the author are either not peer-reviewed, or are not linguists. Many mainstream Indo-Europeanists believe Scythians were Iranian on the basis of the kurgan hypothesis of Indo-European origins, but none have put forward any direct evidence that Scythians were Iranian.
"Saka Khotanese" is an invention of a fringe academic (Harmatta), which he uses to describe the language he believes he sees in the Issyk Kul inscription. Although the short Issyk Kul inscription looks runeiform, he imagines that it is a version of the curvy north Indian Kharosthi script that was used by Indo-Saka kings on one side of their coins (to write a Prakrit language - all surviving Indo-Saka writing is either Greek or Prakrit). Even if Harmatta were right, one twenty-character inscription would hardly constitute a "well developed literature".
15 May 2016 04:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3) most of the material that relates to language would be moved to the "Scythian language" page. this should be topped off with a short introduction that makes clear that we have nearly no information about the Scythian language but nonetheless there is a very lively debate about what it might have been like, and the most popular hypothesis is the Iranian hypothesis, and here's why. (By the way, I think the key argument has been left out: the tie-in with the Kurgan hypothesis. The main argument traditionally put forward for a Scythian-Iranian link is that Indo-Iranians hypothetically immigrated south out of Scythian lands). For fairness' sake the other hypotheses (Turkic, Uralic, Slavic, Tokhari) should be mentioned too, and in a fair way, but nothing more than a sentence or two. We don't want the Wikipedia entry to turn into a sort of discussion forum, which we should do here. User:TAWarner
Actually you can add wiki project ukraine. Linguistic identification of Scythians are pretty sound and are based on names (Aripharnes, Ariantes, Ariamanes..) as well Khotanese Saka materials. Amongst scholars there is no lively debate, but amongst amatuer nationalists I guess everything has to be a contention. But since Wikipedia follows scholarly based articles (Britannica, journals, books written by scholars who have published profusely in peer reviewed journals..) then the information is based on that. --alidoostzadeh 00:41, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree to the writer above this article flaws in giving a neutral scientific view. The ethnic identity of Scythians is not as certain as the writers of this article suggest, in fact this assumption is based on speculation and ambiguous evidence. This article adheres way too much to one point of view, flouting all other possibilities to prevail as the one and only truth.
For instance, in this phrase the existence of scholarly based articles is both admitted and scorned at:
"Although some scholars sought to connect the Pazyryk nomads with indigenous ethnic groups of the Altay, Rudenko summed up the cultural context in the following dictum:"
However, the dictum that followed merely places the archeological findings within a certain period and does not support the writers view concerning the identification of any specific ethnic group:
"All that is known to us at the present time about the culture of the population of the High Altay, who have left behind them the large cairns, permits us to refer them to the Scythian period, and the Pazyryk group in particular to the fifth century BC. This is supported by radiocarbon dating."
In my opinion this should be rectified throughout the article. Thanks! Rokus01 20:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Actually you can add wiki project ukraine. Linguistic identification of Scythians are pretty sound and are based on names (Aripharnes, Ariantes, Ariamanes..) as well Khotanese Saka materials. Amongst scholars there is no lively debate, but amongst amatuer nationalists I guess everything has to be a contention. But since Wikipedia follows scholarly based articles (Britannica, journals, books written by scholars who have published profusely in peer reviewed journals..) then the information is based on that. --alidoostzadeh 00:41, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree to the writer above this article flaws in giving a neutral scientific view. The ethnic identity of Scythians is not as certain as the writers of this article suggest, in fact this assumption is based on speculation and ambiguous evidence. This article adheres way too much to one point of view, flouting all other possibilities to prevail as the one and only truth.
For instance, in this phrase the existence of scholarly based articles is both admitted and scorned at:
"Although some scholars sought to connect the Pazyryk nomads with indigenous ethnic groups of the Altay, Rudenko summed up the cultural context in the following dictum:"
However, the dictum that followed merely places the archeological findings within a certain period and does not support the writers view concerning the identification of any specific ethnic group:
"All that is known to us at the present time about the culture of the population of the High Altay, who have left behind them the large cairns, permits us to refer them to the Scythian period, and the Pazyryk group in particular to the fifth century BC. This is supported by radiocarbon dating."
In my opinion this should be rectified throughout the article. Thanks! Rokus01 20:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Why Iranian?
It appears to me that the Wikipedia administration is not being objective by placing this article under the umbrella of "WikiProject Iran". The hypothesis that Scythians spoke an Iranian language is controversial and unproven. The only proven connections that Scythians have to Iran is that they lived nearby and interacted with Iran, and spent some time as subjects of the Persian empire. Since the main group of people known as Scythians lived in Ukraine, it seems strange that the Scythians page has been designated by Wikipedia as Russia-related, Central Asia-related and Iran-related, but not as Ukraine-related.
This bias toward hypothetical Iran connection has apparently encouraged a surplus of speculation about Scythians' possible links to Iranians and discouraged objective contributions about who the Scythians were and what their role was in history. I think an encyclopedia ought to be conservative in the main body of the article, and relegate any speculation to the end of the article. Trying to identify the Scythian language is inherently speculative. The first and most important thing to say about the Scythian language is that it is unknown (all we have are about ten alleged Scythian words translitered into Greek, which show no obvious similarity to Iranian or any other language). The hypothesis that Scythians spoke an Iranian language is surely popular enough to be included and discussed, but it should be a short section near the bottom of the page.
I think what was meant by Mr Fourteenfootnotesinarow was that the majority of scholars *who have attempted to identify the Scythian language* have identified it as an Iranian language. That is inherently a small pool as mainstream linguists do not attempt to identify languages for which there is no linguistic record. And please leave the vast majority of scholars out of this, unless you're proposing to poll a bunch of physicists, sociologists and professors of literature on the taxonomy of lost languages.
I suggest this page and the closely related "Scythia" and "Scythian language" should be reorganized into three separate pages.
1) an overview of Scythians in the broad sense. I think "Scythia" and "Scythians" should both link to this broad page. this would be an overview page that briefly describes most of the various peoples who have been called "Scythians" or something like it (the Ashkuzi of Assyrian sources, the Scythians who invaded Medea, the Massagetae, the Saka, the Scythians of Ukraine, the Sarmats, some others). Naturally this overview would link to the separate pages that already exist for Saka, Massagetae, Sarmats, etc. This page would also include a broad discussion of archaeology for these groups. It would also include a small section about the former use of the name "Scythia" as a geographical term roughly corresponding to Ukraine, Russia and Central Asia. The discussion of language should be greatly shortened, moved to the bottom and link for further discussion to the language page.
2) a separate page about the Scythians of Ukraine and southern Russia. These are the Scythians that we known the most about, which left behind the most archaeological data. The material in the current "Scythia" page that relates particularly to the Scythian kingdoms of Ukraine would be included in this page
It appears to me that the Wikipedia administration is not being objective by placing this article under the umbrella of "WikiProject Iran". The hypothesis that Scythians spoke an Iranian language is controversial and unproven. The only proven connections that Scythians have to Iran is that they lived nearby and interacted with Iran, and spent some time as subjects of the Persian empire. Since the main group of people known as Scythians lived in Ukraine, it seems strange that the Scythians page has been designated by Wikipedia as Russia-related, Central Asia-related and Iran-related, but not as Ukraine-related.
This bias toward hypothetical Iran connection has apparently encouraged a surplus of speculation about Scythians' possible links to Iranians and discouraged objective contributions about who the Scythians were and what their role was in history. I think an encyclopedia ought to be conservative in the main body of the article, and relegate any speculation to the end of the article. Trying to identify the Scythian language is inherently speculative. The first and most important thing to say about the Scythian language is that it is unknown (all we have are about ten alleged Scythian words translitered into Greek, which show no obvious similarity to Iranian or any other language). The hypothesis that Scythians spoke an Iranian language is surely popular enough to be included and discussed, but it should be a short section near the bottom of the page.
I think what was meant by Mr Fourteenfootnotesinarow was that the majority of scholars *who have attempted to identify the Scythian language* have identified it as an Iranian language. That is inherently a small pool as mainstream linguists do not attempt to identify languages for which there is no linguistic record. And please leave the vast majority of scholars out of this, unless you're proposing to poll a bunch of physicists, sociologists and professors of literature on the taxonomy of lost languages.
I suggest this page and the closely related "Scythia" and "Scythian language" should be reorganized into three separate pages.
1) an overview of Scythians in the broad sense. I think "Scythia" and "Scythians" should both link to this broad page. this would be an overview page that briefly describes most of the various peoples who have been called "Scythians" or something like it (the Ashkuzi of Assyrian sources, the Scythians who invaded Medea, the Massagetae, the Saka, the Scythians of Ukraine, the Sarmats, some others). Naturally this overview would link to the separate pages that already exist for Saka, Massagetae, Sarmats, etc. This page would also include a broad discussion of archaeology for these groups. It would also include a small section about the former use of the name "Scythia" as a geographical term roughly corresponding to Ukraine, Russia and Central Asia. The discussion of language should be greatly shortened, moved to the bottom and link for further discussion to the language page.
2) a separate page about the Scythians of Ukraine and southern Russia. These are the Scythians that we known the most about, which left behind the most archaeological data. The material in the current "Scythia" page that relates particularly to the Scythian kingdoms of Ukraine would be included in this page
15 May 2016 04:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Persians.
7. (The Scythians') principal tribe, the Royal Scyths, ruled the vast lands occupied by the nation as a whole (Herodotus .IV 20); and they called themselves Skolotoi.
No, according to Herodotus, the Pontic Scythians (those living west of the Don) called themselves Skolotoi, and the dominant group among them were the Royal Scythians. Herodotus does not say or imply that the Royal Scythians ruled over the Saka or had any dominion east of the Don. Herodotus does not say or imply that the Saka called themselves Skolotoi.
8. "Professor Oswald Szemerényi devotes a thorough discussion to the etymology of the word Scyth in his work "Four old Iranian ethnic names: Scythian - Skudra - Sogdian - Saka". [4].
This "etymology" is given very very too much weight, as it is completely speculative, which furthermore needs to be pointed out. The equation of Sogdian with Scythian and Saka is especially odd - no ancient writer suggested that the Sogdians were related to Scythians or Saka.
7. "The Scythians first appeared in the historical record in the beginning of the first millennium."
The earliest surviving *probable* written reference to the Scythians, to the Iskuza, is in the Assyrian chronicles from the reign of King Esarhaddon, 681-669 BC.
8. "According to some scholars they have been living there since time immemorial. [5]"
This appears to be another case of an Iranian nationalist activist distorting the views of the scholars he cites. It's not clear, but I suppose this is an attempt to suggest that there is a group of scholars who believe the Scythians had lived in "greater Iran" since time immemorial? I haven't read the one scholar cited, and I don't know who the others of the "some scholars" might be, but I feel pretty safe in declaring that no gainfully employed scholar believes the Scythians lived in "greater Iran" since "time immemorial".
Moreover, even if Szmerenyi's views were correctly represented, they are given too much weight here.
9. The Herodotus quote beginning: "The nomadic tribes of Scythians ..."
This quote is garbled. It deserves to be included, prominently and correctly.
10. There is no mention that the most popular theory among modern scholars of the Scythians is that they originated somewhere in the steppe areas of Central Asia or Russia.
11. There is no mention in the origins section that the oldest archaeological find credibly identified as Scythian (by the scholars at the Hermitage) is in Russia's Tuva region, north of Mongolia (the Arzhan site).
12. There is no mention in the origins section of the Pontic Scythians' legend of their own origins, according to which the Scythians were descended from the Dnipro river goddess, which suggests that in Herodotus's time the Pontic Scythians had no memory of living anywhere else.
13. "Around 770 BCE ... the (Ishkuza) (led by Ishpaki ...) in alliance with the Mannaens attacked Assyria."
The date is a century off, the attack occurred and was recorded during Esarhaddon's reign in 689-661 BC.
14. "... the Scythians (led by Ishpaki ...) in alliance with the Mannaens attacked Assyria. The group first appears in Assyrian annals under the name Ishkuzai."
This needs to be rewritten to make clear that the Assyrians were attacked by a people they called "Ishkuza", who can probably be equated with Scythians. It would be good to include the main evidence for this equation: the Assyrian text mentions that Esarhaddon later made an alliance with the Ishkuza prince "Partatua" against Medes, and according to Herodotus, about a generation later, a Scythian army led by a son of "Prtotohyes" invaded Medes.
15. "(led by Ishpaki — Old Iranian *Spakaaya)"
It is not appropriate to weave such speculative etymologies into the main text of the article, which implies that they are factual and gives them far too much weight. They can be included (sourced) in a section, but more appropriately in the "Scythian language" page
16. "Subsequent mention of Scythians in Babylonian ... texts ..."
I'm not aware of any Babylonian sources referring to Scythians and none are cited. I'd be glad to know if there are any.
17. "Subsequent mention of Scythians in ... Assyrian texts occurs in connection with Media."
The only surviving Assyrian text referring to probable Scythians (the Ishkuza) is the chronicle of Esarhaddon's reign mentioned above. The author is apparently referring to the mention of Esarhaddon's alliance with the Ishkuza prince Partatua against Media. I suspect this is more twisting by Iranian nationalist activists: instead of telling us the story, that the Assyrians made an alliance with the Ishkuza against Media, the author only wants us to know that "a mention of Scythians ... occurs in connection with Media" -- apparently he thinks this will help subtly build the case for an Iranian-Scythian community and not distract readers with the inconvenient (for him) truth that the "connection" referred to was of hostile neighbors.
18. "Herodotus ... classes the Cimmerians as a ... autochthonous tribe"
Herodotus does not say or imply that the Cimmerians were "autochthonous". He merely says the Cimmerians were living on the north side of the Pontus before the Scythians arrived. Herodotus doesn't say anything about how long he believed the Cimmerians had been there. Besides, it wouldn't matter much if he did - he wouldn't be a reliable source for something so ancient. Besides, this isn't the place to worry about how long the Cimmerians had been in the north Pontic steppes.
19. "Throughout his work Herodotus specifically distinguished between the nomadic Scythians in the south and the agricultural Scythians to the north.[citation needed]"
Corrections, not a citation, are needed. Firstly, to delete the words: "Throughout his work", as the distinction is made only once. Secondly, to clarify that Herodotus placed the Scythian cultivators in a pocket some way up the Dnipro river, not in a band along the Black Sea coast, as the version above implies. Thirdly, to add that, according to Herodotus, the agricultural Scythians "grow grain not for their own use, but for sale" - which is important, as it implies they had recently learned to farm specifically for the purpose of trading with the Greeks.
20. "When Herodotus wrote his Histories in the 5th century BC, Greeks distinguished Scythia Minor in present-day Romania and Bulgaria from a Greater Scythia ..."
No, the Scythia Minor south of the Danube did not exist in Herodotus's time. Herodotus refers only to Scythia, never to Greater Scythia, nor to Scythia Minor.
Whew! Twenty is enough to start. What a mess. To be continued, when I have time. TAWarner 20:32, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
7. (The Scythians') principal tribe, the Royal Scyths, ruled the vast lands occupied by the nation as a whole (Herodotus .IV 20); and they called themselves Skolotoi.
No, according to Herodotus, the Pontic Scythians (those living west of the Don) called themselves Skolotoi, and the dominant group among them were the Royal Scythians. Herodotus does not say or imply that the Royal Scythians ruled over the Saka or had any dominion east of the Don. Herodotus does not say or imply that the Saka called themselves Skolotoi.
8. "Professor Oswald Szemerényi devotes a thorough discussion to the etymology of the word Scyth in his work "Four old Iranian ethnic names: Scythian - Skudra - Sogdian - Saka". [4].
This "etymology" is given very very too much weight, as it is completely speculative, which furthermore needs to be pointed out. The equation of Sogdian with Scythian and Saka is especially odd - no ancient writer suggested that the Sogdians were related to Scythians or Saka.
7. "The Scythians first appeared in the historical record in the beginning of the first millennium."
The earliest surviving *probable* written reference to the Scythians, to the Iskuza, is in the Assyrian chronicles from the reign of King Esarhaddon, 681-669 BC.
8. "According to some scholars they have been living there since time immemorial. [5]"
This appears to be another case of an Iranian nationalist activist distorting the views of the scholars he cites. It's not clear, but I suppose this is an attempt to suggest that there is a group of scholars who believe the Scythians had lived in "greater Iran" since time immemorial? I haven't read the one scholar cited, and I don't know who the others of the "some scholars" might be, but I feel pretty safe in declaring that no gainfully employed scholar believes the Scythians lived in "greater Iran" since "time immemorial".
Moreover, even if Szmerenyi's views were correctly represented, they are given too much weight here.
9. The Herodotus quote beginning: "The nomadic tribes of Scythians ..."
This quote is garbled. It deserves to be included, prominently and correctly.
10. There is no mention that the most popular theory among modern scholars of the Scythians is that they originated somewhere in the steppe areas of Central Asia or Russia.
11. There is no mention in the origins section that the oldest archaeological find credibly identified as Scythian (by the scholars at the Hermitage) is in Russia's Tuva region, north of Mongolia (the Arzhan site).
12. There is no mention in the origins section of the Pontic Scythians' legend of their own origins, according to which the Scythians were descended from the Dnipro river goddess, which suggests that in Herodotus's time the Pontic Scythians had no memory of living anywhere else.
13. "Around 770 BCE ... the (Ishkuza) (led by Ishpaki ...) in alliance with the Mannaens attacked Assyria."
The date is a century off, the attack occurred and was recorded during Esarhaddon's reign in 689-661 BC.
14. "... the Scythians (led by Ishpaki ...) in alliance with the Mannaens attacked Assyria. The group first appears in Assyrian annals under the name Ishkuzai."
This needs to be rewritten to make clear that the Assyrians were attacked by a people they called "Ishkuza", who can probably be equated with Scythians. It would be good to include the main evidence for this equation: the Assyrian text mentions that Esarhaddon later made an alliance with the Ishkuza prince "Partatua" against Medes, and according to Herodotus, about a generation later, a Scythian army led by a son of "Prtotohyes" invaded Medes.
15. "(led by Ishpaki — Old Iranian *Spakaaya)"
It is not appropriate to weave such speculative etymologies into the main text of the article, which implies that they are factual and gives them far too much weight. They can be included (sourced) in a section, but more appropriately in the "Scythian language" page
16. "Subsequent mention of Scythians in Babylonian ... texts ..."
I'm not aware of any Babylonian sources referring to Scythians and none are cited. I'd be glad to know if there are any.
17. "Subsequent mention of Scythians in ... Assyrian texts occurs in connection with Media."
The only surviving Assyrian text referring to probable Scythians (the Ishkuza) is the chronicle of Esarhaddon's reign mentioned above. The author is apparently referring to the mention of Esarhaddon's alliance with the Ishkuza prince Partatua against Media. I suspect this is more twisting by Iranian nationalist activists: instead of telling us the story, that the Assyrians made an alliance with the Ishkuza against Media, the author only wants us to know that "a mention of Scythians ... occurs in connection with Media" -- apparently he thinks this will help subtly build the case for an Iranian-Scythian community and not distract readers with the inconvenient (for him) truth that the "connection" referred to was of hostile neighbors.
18. "Herodotus ... classes the Cimmerians as a ... autochthonous tribe"
Herodotus does not say or imply that the Cimmerians were "autochthonous". He merely says the Cimmerians were living on the north side of the Pontus before the Scythians arrived. Herodotus doesn't say anything about how long he believed the Cimmerians had been there. Besides, it wouldn't matter much if he did - he wouldn't be a reliable source for something so ancient. Besides, this isn't the place to worry about how long the Cimmerians had been in the north Pontic steppes.
19. "Throughout his work Herodotus specifically distinguished between the nomadic Scythians in the south and the agricultural Scythians to the north.[citation needed]"
Corrections, not a citation, are needed. Firstly, to delete the words: "Throughout his work", as the distinction is made only once. Secondly, to clarify that Herodotus placed the Scythian cultivators in a pocket some way up the Dnipro river, not in a band along the Black Sea coast, as the version above implies. Thirdly, to add that, according to Herodotus, the agricultural Scythians "grow grain not for their own use, but for sale" - which is important, as it implies they had recently learned to farm specifically for the purpose of trading with the Greeks.
20. "When Herodotus wrote his Histories in the 5th century BC, Greeks distinguished Scythia Minor in present-day Romania and Bulgaria from a Greater Scythia ..."
No, the Scythia Minor south of the Danube did not exist in Herodotus's time. Herodotus refers only to Scythia, never to Greater Scythia, nor to Scythia Minor.
Whew! Twenty is enough to start. What a mess. To be continued, when I have time. TAWarner 20:32, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Language
''The Scythians (/'sɪθɪən/, also /'sɪðɪən/) or Scyths (/'sɪθs/[1]; from Greek Σκύθης), a nation of horse-riding nomadic pastoralists who spoke an Iranian language... Should this be, "Indo-Iranian language...?" That is how I've always seen it referred to anyway. Just curious. Woland37 13:39, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
What needs to be fixed: an enumeration
I see that since I haven't written here for some days, Ali has decided that is grounds enough to accuse other people of being my double.
I'm going to start an enumeration of all the flaws of this article, which unfortunately are very numerous. I think it's worth starting by restating that paragraph from the Wikipedia NPOV guidelines: "The neutral point of view is a means of dealing with conflicting views. The policy requires that, where there are or have been conflicting views, these should be presented fairly. None of the views should be given undue weight or asserted as being the truth, and all significant published points of view are to be presented, not just the most popular one. It should also not be asserted that the most popular view or some sort of intermediate view among the different views is the correct one. Readers are left to form their own opinions."
1. "The Scythians spoke a ... language"
Even if one uses the narrowest possible definition of Scythians (the Pontic Scythians plus the Saka), and even if one accepts, despite the total lack of evidence, that all Scythians spoke related languages, they clearly must have spoken multiple languages, not a single common language.
2. "The Scythians spoke ... Indo-European language"
This is disputed, both by agnostics like myself and by proponents of other theories, but here is presented as fact. It is also given undue weight, appearing in the first paragraph although any identification of any Scythian language is inherently speculative given they are all extinct and there are no surviving texts. It is also unsourced.
3. "Scholars generally classify the Scythian language as a member of the East Iranian branch"
Most scholars, of course, work in unrelated fields and don't bother themselves with this question. The group we are concerned with here are : "Scholars who have studied the Scythians". Furthermore, it is not true that the members of that group "generally accept" that the Scythian language can be classified as East Iranian. Some reject the theory, and others are agnostic because of the lack of evidence. It is true that the most popular theory among scholars on Scythian language classifies it as Iranic.
4. "Scholars generally classify ... the Scythians as a branch of the Ancient Iranian peoples expanding into Greater Iran from around 1000 BCE.
This is an excellent example of how the Iranian nationalist activists who have hjiacked this page twist and mischaracterize the views of the very scholars they cite as sources. Most supporters of the Iranian Scythian theory believe the proto-Iranians originated in central Asia and that the Scythians represent a branch who stayed behind after the Iranians migrated south into Iran.
5. "According to Professor Sulimirski [3] , Herodotus provides a broadly correct depiction but apparently knew little of the eastern part of Scythia."
Sulimirski's views are not enlightening and are given undue weight.
6. According to Herotodus the ancient Perians called all the Scyths "Saca" (Herodotus .VII 64)
''The Scythians (/'sɪθɪən/, also /'sɪðɪən/) or Scyths (/'sɪθs/[1]; from Greek Σκύθης), a nation of horse-riding nomadic pastoralists who spoke an Iranian language... Should this be, "Indo-Iranian language...?" That is how I've always seen it referred to anyway. Just curious. Woland37 13:39, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
What needs to be fixed: an enumeration
I see that since I haven't written here for some days, Ali has decided that is grounds enough to accuse other people of being my double.
I'm going to start an enumeration of all the flaws of this article, which unfortunately are very numerous. I think it's worth starting by restating that paragraph from the Wikipedia NPOV guidelines: "The neutral point of view is a means of dealing with conflicting views. The policy requires that, where there are or have been conflicting views, these should be presented fairly. None of the views should be given undue weight or asserted as being the truth, and all significant published points of view are to be presented, not just the most popular one. It should also not be asserted that the most popular view or some sort of intermediate view among the different views is the correct one. Readers are left to form their own opinions."
1. "The Scythians spoke a ... language"
Even if one uses the narrowest possible definition of Scythians (the Pontic Scythians plus the Saka), and even if one accepts, despite the total lack of evidence, that all Scythians spoke related languages, they clearly must have spoken multiple languages, not a single common language.
2. "The Scythians spoke ... Indo-European language"
This is disputed, both by agnostics like myself and by proponents of other theories, but here is presented as fact. It is also given undue weight, appearing in the first paragraph although any identification of any Scythian language is inherently speculative given they are all extinct and there are no surviving texts. It is also unsourced.
3. "Scholars generally classify the Scythian language as a member of the East Iranian branch"
Most scholars, of course, work in unrelated fields and don't bother themselves with this question. The group we are concerned with here are : "Scholars who have studied the Scythians". Furthermore, it is not true that the members of that group "generally accept" that the Scythian language can be classified as East Iranian. Some reject the theory, and others are agnostic because of the lack of evidence. It is true that the most popular theory among scholars on Scythian language classifies it as Iranic.
4. "Scholars generally classify ... the Scythians as a branch of the Ancient Iranian peoples expanding into Greater Iran from around 1000 BCE.
This is an excellent example of how the Iranian nationalist activists who have hjiacked this page twist and mischaracterize the views of the very scholars they cite as sources. Most supporters of the Iranian Scythian theory believe the proto-Iranians originated in central Asia and that the Scythians represent a branch who stayed behind after the Iranians migrated south into Iran.
5. "According to Professor Sulimirski [3] , Herodotus provides a broadly correct depiction but apparently knew little of the eastern part of Scythia."
Sulimirski's views are not enlightening and are given undue weight.
6. According to Herotodus the ancient Perians called all the Scyths "Saca" (Herodotus .VII 64)
15 May 2016 04:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
archive 2
1 Genetics
2 Language
3 What needs to be fixed: an enumeration
4 Why Iranian?
4.1 Origins (Third party review)
4.2 Racism, fascism and a discussion mysteriously gone
5 Sarts vs. Saks
6 state of this article
7 Barefact
8 Reference to Ice Maiden
9 Modern Scythian-related peoples
10 Polish and Ukrainian words
11 Outside Opinion
12 Deletion of tertiary sources
13 Third opinion on tertiary sources.
14 A second third opinion
15 Clear example of Hypocrisy by user Rockus01 removing Britannica and inserting Britannica when it suits his agenda
16 Genes
17 whats going on
18 britannica
19 Straw Poll 1
20 the Atestation of Scythian languge
21 Herodotos transliteration
22 Franks and Scythians
23 Genetics
24 Late Antiquity, Vigilius
25 The scythians came from the East of the Iranian plateau.
26 #($I$
27 Haplogroups R1A, G, and Alleged Scythian connections
28 The late neoliths of West asia
29 recent edit
30 Israelites
Genetics
The genetics section is biased, incomplete, and inconsistant with genetic studies. Currently, Indo-European maker is theorized to be R1a (based on Kurgan culture). However Haplogroup G follows footstep of Alans, and is found at highest level in Ossetians, and decreases in all their neighbouring populations,implying that they in fact introduced them to that area. There are many, many haplogroups,both mtDNA and y-chrom, that could fit Scythian profile. There are bunch of """HYPOTHESIS""" out there regarding Iranian origin, and none of them are "proven" fact. I said it before, and I say it again: these genetic studies in its current shape and form are incomplete, and claims that are made regarding specific "haplogroup" for a whole populations is simply ridiculous. I took the liberty of deleting the genetic section. What is written there regarding haplogroups of bones found in Kurgan area belongs to """"kurgan article""" and not here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ddd0dd (talk • contribs) 03:17, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
1 Genetics
2 Language
3 What needs to be fixed: an enumeration
4 Why Iranian?
4.1 Origins (Third party review)
4.2 Racism, fascism and a discussion mysteriously gone
5 Sarts vs. Saks
6 state of this article
7 Barefact
8 Reference to Ice Maiden
9 Modern Scythian-related peoples
10 Polish and Ukrainian words
11 Outside Opinion
12 Deletion of tertiary sources
13 Third opinion on tertiary sources.
14 A second third opinion
15 Clear example of Hypocrisy by user Rockus01 removing Britannica and inserting Britannica when it suits his agenda
16 Genes
17 whats going on
18 britannica
19 Straw Poll 1
20 the Atestation of Scythian languge
21 Herodotos transliteration
22 Franks and Scythians
23 Genetics
24 Late Antiquity, Vigilius
25 The scythians came from the East of the Iranian plateau.
26 #($I$
27 Haplogroups R1A, G, and Alleged Scythian connections
28 The late neoliths of West asia
29 recent edit
30 Israelites
Genetics
The genetics section is biased, incomplete, and inconsistant with genetic studies. Currently, Indo-European maker is theorized to be R1a (based on Kurgan culture). However Haplogroup G follows footstep of Alans, and is found at highest level in Ossetians, and decreases in all their neighbouring populations,implying that they in fact introduced them to that area. There are many, many haplogroups,both mtDNA and y-chrom, that could fit Scythian profile. There are bunch of """HYPOTHESIS""" out there regarding Iranian origin, and none of them are "proven" fact. I said it before, and I say it again: these genetic studies in its current shape and form are incomplete, and claims that are made regarding specific "haplogroup" for a whole populations is simply ridiculous. I took the liberty of deleting the genetic section. What is written there regarding haplogroups of bones found in Kurgan area belongs to """"kurgan article""" and not here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ddd0dd (talk • contribs) 03:17, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nationalistic/chauvinistic point of view is the problem
I submitted a request yesterday referring to the classification of Scythian language. It was Indo-european when checked last yesterday. I asked whether it should change back to Iranian or not.
You know what the problem is of this Scythian information page? Everyone is trying to pull the Scythians to their own heritage. I asked whether the language definition could be changed, and when I check now they are somehow of Eastern European origin! That means they originated in the Ukraine, Baltic States and Western Russia! And who is the corrector? a Yugoslavian man of Eastern European origin!! Come on people, don't be so idiotically nationalistic. The correct way should be: (nomadic) Iranian peoples that originated in Central Asia (and spread later afterwards to Eastern Europe, Greater Iran, Chinese Turkestan, east of the Danube, Southern Siberia and places in between these areas.
I've read most correction claims and I have to conclude this page is FULL and really mean FULL of trolls who try to claim their heritage due to nationalistic and chauvinistic point of view.
Origin: Central Asia, spreading afterwards. Language: Iranian. Ethno-linguistic Identity: Iranian Peoples
Stop with this trolling, please.
Regards
Your very statements only betray your very own biases , ignorance and dubious intentions, not the least your "conclusions" which are not only biased and unrepresentative of the scholarly corpus, but fundamentally incorrect in that they mean to imply that for an anceint, enigmatic and diverse people there exists one and only one 'origin'.
in any case, your incorrect, and you do not even appear to know that the two main theories as to where the Scythians arose are: (1) exactly where they are attested - southern Russia and Urkaine from the preceding Catacomb culture or (2) the Sayan -Altai region - neither of which have anything to do with Iran.
moreover, you appear confused on the difference between language and identity. Yes - they spoke ancient Iranian, but no they don't come from Iran; they were never "brothers" of the Persians, nor the Medes, nor do they have anything to do with modern Iranians. The Scythians were an ethno-political group, defined by the complex social -political- cultural relations whihch they maintained and enforced. Their ethnicity was Scythian. They never called themselves "Iranians", nor did ever the anceint historians like Herodotus, or Ovid. They ceased to exist in late Antiquity, and did not impart their "legacy" neither to Iran, nor Poland, nor Zimbabwe. So no one is stealing anyone's history
sorry to burst your nationalistic bubble, but the genetic study by Kayser (who appears to be of German origin) - which you ignorantly and belligerently claim to be nationalistic propaganda, is nothing but reproducible and reliable fact. Please feel free to conduct your own high-quality ancient DNA study and publish any results to the contrary.
for your further information, 'eastern Europe' is a region, not a nation, and 'Yugoslavs' if anything are more Mediterranean & Dinaric than EE. So I have no personal agenda in promoting the reality of their eastern European origins.
so as you see, your statements are naught but nationalism, wrapped in ignorance, wrapped in irrationality. So kindly spare us from your rants in future. Slovenski Volk (talk) 06:06, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
I didn't claim they were living in modern day Iran. Nor did they origin there. They didn't have one kind of look. Not all Scythian tribes had light eyes/fair hair color and not all of them were Mediterranean or Mongolic looking. However, they all originally belonged to Iranian stock. You are just changing my words and trying to give it that fake twist. All this evidence shows that the name arya "Iranian" was a collective definition, denoting peoples (Geiger, pp. 167 f.; Schmitt, 1978, p. 31) who were aware of belonging to the one ethnic stock, speaking a common language, and having a religious tradition that centered on the cult of Ahura Mazdā. Persians, Medes, Scythians and Bactrians, for example, they all spoke an Iranian language and they had a religious tradition centered on the cult of Ahura Mazda. I never SAID Scythians called themselves Iranian, but the ancient Persians/Medes knew they were in some way related to them, hence the cultural and linguistic link. However, they were no brothers of each other as you stated. I apologize if my words were misunderstood for that matter. However, Ancient Iranian peoples have a link with modern day Iranian peoples due to the ethno-linguistic heritage.
I think you are living in an imaginary bubble then as you like to call it, as you are denying that people have vandalised parts of this article in the past. The claims of various people saying there is vandalism is all fake I guess, according to you... As for the Scythians living space, you are just changing the meaning of my words. I know Eastern Europe is a region, so was Scythia. They didn't solely live in Eastern Europe or Central Asia nor did solely origin in Eastern Europe. For example the Saka. Scythians lived in a very wide area known as Scythia around the places I described in my previous post. They don't belong to one ethnicity or one land. Nor did I claim this. Stop being ignorant please.
So this talk page is/was not full of trolls? I've read Arabian people and Turkish people claiming heritage without any kind of scientific links/arguments! That is not trolling I ask you? I'm not trying to change anything, I'm just stating facts. So what were the Parthians then according to you? I guess the Parni tribe was composed of Congolese people then who ruled over what is now Iran lol. Modern Iran's history had some African people rulers then.... Please... you are being a little bit ignorant. Scythians, by speaking an Iranian language (thus giving a link to all other speakers of Iranian languages/Aryan languages/IE languages) gives them a link to modern day Iranian PEOPLES Their pre-zoroastrian religon(IRANIAN-like, don't confuse it with modern day Iran) also gives them a link to these Iranian peoples. I didn't ment to be rude to you in my last post, however, you are mocking me here by claiming things I didn't refer to.
I'm not here to argue with you or anybody, I've just been watching this page for a while and the reason it's such a vague article is because of it's constant changing by people claiming X or Y, without the needed scientific facts.
Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by LouisAragon (talk • contribs) 14:10, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Again you're incorrect. No one is adding that they were blond/blue eyed (although that's what the article itself suggests), and I don't really care what they looked like. What you're insinuating is racialist and has no real place in Academia. Rather, the genetic evidence helps pin-point their geographic origins. Moreover, a lot of what you describe above is clearly OR - the Scythians never worshipped Ahura Mazda, but rather they had their own northwestern Eurasian traditions, very little to do with Iran. The only real similarity was language, which was already severely differentiated by that time, anyway. The fact that you insist of using terms like "ethnic stock' only reaffirms you have a very cursory knowledge of anthropology. What you don;t understand is that I'm not against you labelling Scythians as "Iranian", but the very compulsion to label them anything else other than "Scythian". That is because most people do not understand how ancient identities evolved. Im elevating the article toward a higher level of classification, yet you're pulling it down toward the dregs of chauvanism and race-based classification. See further below. Slovenski Volk (talk) 01:11, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%B0skitler
I submitted a request yesterday referring to the classification of Scythian language. It was Indo-european when checked last yesterday. I asked whether it should change back to Iranian or not.
You know what the problem is of this Scythian information page? Everyone is trying to pull the Scythians to their own heritage. I asked whether the language definition could be changed, and when I check now they are somehow of Eastern European origin! That means they originated in the Ukraine, Baltic States and Western Russia! And who is the corrector? a Yugoslavian man of Eastern European origin!! Come on people, don't be so idiotically nationalistic. The correct way should be: (nomadic) Iranian peoples that originated in Central Asia (and spread later afterwards to Eastern Europe, Greater Iran, Chinese Turkestan, east of the Danube, Southern Siberia and places in between these areas.
I've read most correction claims and I have to conclude this page is FULL and really mean FULL of trolls who try to claim their heritage due to nationalistic and chauvinistic point of view.
Origin: Central Asia, spreading afterwards. Language: Iranian. Ethno-linguistic Identity: Iranian Peoples
Stop with this trolling, please.
Regards
Your very statements only betray your very own biases , ignorance and dubious intentions, not the least your "conclusions" which are not only biased and unrepresentative of the scholarly corpus, but fundamentally incorrect in that they mean to imply that for an anceint, enigmatic and diverse people there exists one and only one 'origin'.
in any case, your incorrect, and you do not even appear to know that the two main theories as to where the Scythians arose are: (1) exactly where they are attested - southern Russia and Urkaine from the preceding Catacomb culture or (2) the Sayan -Altai region - neither of which have anything to do with Iran.
moreover, you appear confused on the difference between language and identity. Yes - they spoke ancient Iranian, but no they don't come from Iran; they were never "brothers" of the Persians, nor the Medes, nor do they have anything to do with modern Iranians. The Scythians were an ethno-political group, defined by the complex social -political- cultural relations whihch they maintained and enforced. Their ethnicity was Scythian. They never called themselves "Iranians", nor did ever the anceint historians like Herodotus, or Ovid. They ceased to exist in late Antiquity, and did not impart their "legacy" neither to Iran, nor Poland, nor Zimbabwe. So no one is stealing anyone's history
sorry to burst your nationalistic bubble, but the genetic study by Kayser (who appears to be of German origin) - which you ignorantly and belligerently claim to be nationalistic propaganda, is nothing but reproducible and reliable fact. Please feel free to conduct your own high-quality ancient DNA study and publish any results to the contrary.
for your further information, 'eastern Europe' is a region, not a nation, and 'Yugoslavs' if anything are more Mediterranean & Dinaric than EE. So I have no personal agenda in promoting the reality of their eastern European origins.
so as you see, your statements are naught but nationalism, wrapped in ignorance, wrapped in irrationality. So kindly spare us from your rants in future. Slovenski Volk (talk) 06:06, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
I didn't claim they were living in modern day Iran. Nor did they origin there. They didn't have one kind of look. Not all Scythian tribes had light eyes/fair hair color and not all of them were Mediterranean or Mongolic looking. However, they all originally belonged to Iranian stock. You are just changing my words and trying to give it that fake twist. All this evidence shows that the name arya "Iranian" was a collective definition, denoting peoples (Geiger, pp. 167 f.; Schmitt, 1978, p. 31) who were aware of belonging to the one ethnic stock, speaking a common language, and having a religious tradition that centered on the cult of Ahura Mazdā. Persians, Medes, Scythians and Bactrians, for example, they all spoke an Iranian language and they had a religious tradition centered on the cult of Ahura Mazda. I never SAID Scythians called themselves Iranian, but the ancient Persians/Medes knew they were in some way related to them, hence the cultural and linguistic link. However, they were no brothers of each other as you stated. I apologize if my words were misunderstood for that matter. However, Ancient Iranian peoples have a link with modern day Iranian peoples due to the ethno-linguistic heritage.
I think you are living in an imaginary bubble then as you like to call it, as you are denying that people have vandalised parts of this article in the past. The claims of various people saying there is vandalism is all fake I guess, according to you... As for the Scythians living space, you are just changing the meaning of my words. I know Eastern Europe is a region, so was Scythia. They didn't solely live in Eastern Europe or Central Asia nor did solely origin in Eastern Europe. For example the Saka. Scythians lived in a very wide area known as Scythia around the places I described in my previous post. They don't belong to one ethnicity or one land. Nor did I claim this. Stop being ignorant please.
So this talk page is/was not full of trolls? I've read Arabian people and Turkish people claiming heritage without any kind of scientific links/arguments! That is not trolling I ask you? I'm not trying to change anything, I'm just stating facts. So what were the Parthians then according to you? I guess the Parni tribe was composed of Congolese people then who ruled over what is now Iran lol. Modern Iran's history had some African people rulers then.... Please... you are being a little bit ignorant. Scythians, by speaking an Iranian language (thus giving a link to all other speakers of Iranian languages/Aryan languages/IE languages) gives them a link to modern day Iranian PEOPLES Their pre-zoroastrian religon(IRANIAN-like, don't confuse it with modern day Iran) also gives them a link to these Iranian peoples. I didn't ment to be rude to you in my last post, however, you are mocking me here by claiming things I didn't refer to.
I'm not here to argue with you or anybody, I've just been watching this page for a while and the reason it's such a vague article is because of it's constant changing by people claiming X or Y, without the needed scientific facts.
Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by LouisAragon (talk • contribs) 14:10, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Again you're incorrect. No one is adding that they were blond/blue eyed (although that's what the article itself suggests), and I don't really care what they looked like. What you're insinuating is racialist and has no real place in Academia. Rather, the genetic evidence helps pin-point their geographic origins. Moreover, a lot of what you describe above is clearly OR - the Scythians never worshipped Ahura Mazda, but rather they had their own northwestern Eurasian traditions, very little to do with Iran. The only real similarity was language, which was already severely differentiated by that time, anyway. The fact that you insist of using terms like "ethnic stock' only reaffirms you have a very cursory knowledge of anthropology. What you don;t understand is that I'm not against you labelling Scythians as "Iranian", but the very compulsion to label them anything else other than "Scythian". That is because most people do not understand how ancient identities evolved. Im elevating the article toward a higher level of classification, yet you're pulling it down toward the dregs of chauvanism and race-based classification. See further below. Slovenski Volk (talk) 01:11, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%B0skitler
http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%B0skitler
15 May 2016 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Skythians
Yeah, it's less confusing when you spell it with the kappa instead of a Latin "K" in the form of a C.
Just a comment about the importance of the Hellenic histories of the world. People seem unwilling to accept that the Greeks were the only ones to write about these issues of race and culture in such extensive way. Although others had some sporadic written records it was always about religion, trade or "the law" not about who someone was, their culture and life stories in general, not broad, never as prodigious. I was surprised that they are theorized to come almost from India, but not shocked. A large portion of the history of the Near Asia and Europe is shared between the Persian incursions and imperial expansion on one hand and the Greek settlements and colonial integration of Hellenization on the other, with a little Phoenician, Philistine and wandering clans mixed in-between up until the Romans. Even the Kelts come partly from Asia Minor and hung around the fringes of the Hellenic World until they supposedly wandered toward Britain. The world was a very strange place. It is very funny that everyone is trying claim everything, when it all eventually boils back down to some very old written history, most likely written in Greek or Hieroglyphs. Maybe if they raise some tablets at the Alexandrian library site one day, maybe that will solve one or two mysteries. There are so many people out there that want to claim some kind of ancient glory for themselves not knowing "who they are". So many out there just don't accept that civilization developed so very slow at the start, they do not respect the past and want to wish or will some new reality not realizing that societies have killed each other just over those very differences! Most of you would hate yourselves if you only knew which way the blood mixes.
The highly developed and advanced civilizations of the people we only assumed were primitive until modern times, do not exist. If cryptic, superior yet undiscovered cultures did exist then we would have an entirely different reality in our current world.
So many ethnic groups are coming up with so many distorted, embellished wild fantasies about the past that it is just tremendously funny and just a little dangerous. Hey, if they didn't write about you on stone tablets then you are just not ancient — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.252.6.62 (talk) 11:37, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
DNA and recent changes
The article was recently edited by Slovenski Volk [7] and has been reverted by both Zheek and Dougweller. Rather than seeing an edit war, I'd like to encourage all involved editors to discuss. I've read the article Slovenski Volk uses as source, and it's a perfectly acceptable WP:RS. On the other hand, it talks very little about Scythians. They are mentioned five times in the text, two of which deals with animal art and is of no interest for the topic at hand. The three remaining times, the authors talk about Scytho-Siberians. It would be helpful if Slovenski Volk could give a direct quote of the passage he builds his edit on, and if Zheek and Dougweller could explain what it is they feel is inappropriate in the edit.Jeppiz (talk) 16:22, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
The link Slovenski left links to here, which does not mention Scythians. If Scythians are mentioned, this information needs to be presented, else as it stands right now, it is original research. --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:35, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
It talks about Scytho-Siberians, and I must confess to not being aware of the exact relationship between Scytho-Siberians and Scythians. That's why I won't get involved in any editing of the issue, and that's why I asked Slovenski Volk for a clarification.Jeppiz (talk) 16:46, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
I reverted this revision and I explained my reason in edit summary. His edit was unsourced (just used a ref with this text: "Keyser 2009") and he changed current sourced content (changing "Iranian people" to "Iranic-speaking"). if a new theory/evidence with reliable sources is provided, we should mention it, but this doesn't mean we can change current sourced texts/content. New theory can be added to the current content and new changes should match with current sources. For example, consider this as an intro:
Scythians were an ancient Iranian people (sources) or an Iranian-speaking people (sources)...
Then I have a new RS that says "Scythians were X", I should add it to the article like this:
Scythians were an ancient Iranian people (sources) or an Iranian-speaking people (sources) or "Scythians were X" (source)...
We can not remove or replace previous sourced content because of new ones. We can reject them when they are completely rejected and not supported by experts and academic sources. Zheek (talk) 17:50, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
And why he reverted my general fixes (wikilink and dashes)? diff 1 - fixed wikilink, diff 2 - fixed dashes, and his RV. Zheek (talk) 18:24, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, it's less confusing when you spell it with the kappa instead of a Latin "K" in the form of a C.
Just a comment about the importance of the Hellenic histories of the world. People seem unwilling to accept that the Greeks were the only ones to write about these issues of race and culture in such extensive way. Although others had some sporadic written records it was always about religion, trade or "the law" not about who someone was, their culture and life stories in general, not broad, never as prodigious. I was surprised that they are theorized to come almost from India, but not shocked. A large portion of the history of the Near Asia and Europe is shared between the Persian incursions and imperial expansion on one hand and the Greek settlements and colonial integration of Hellenization on the other, with a little Phoenician, Philistine and wandering clans mixed in-between up until the Romans. Even the Kelts come partly from Asia Minor and hung around the fringes of the Hellenic World until they supposedly wandered toward Britain. The world was a very strange place. It is very funny that everyone is trying claim everything, when it all eventually boils back down to some very old written history, most likely written in Greek or Hieroglyphs. Maybe if they raise some tablets at the Alexandrian library site one day, maybe that will solve one or two mysteries. There are so many people out there that want to claim some kind of ancient glory for themselves not knowing "who they are". So many out there just don't accept that civilization developed so very slow at the start, they do not respect the past and want to wish or will some new reality not realizing that societies have killed each other just over those very differences! Most of you would hate yourselves if you only knew which way the blood mixes.
The highly developed and advanced civilizations of the people we only assumed were primitive until modern times, do not exist. If cryptic, superior yet undiscovered cultures did exist then we would have an entirely different reality in our current world.
So many ethnic groups are coming up with so many distorted, embellished wild fantasies about the past that it is just tremendously funny and just a little dangerous. Hey, if they didn't write about you on stone tablets then you are just not ancient — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.252.6.62 (talk) 11:37, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
DNA and recent changes
The article was recently edited by Slovenski Volk [7] and has been reverted by both Zheek and Dougweller. Rather than seeing an edit war, I'd like to encourage all involved editors to discuss. I've read the article Slovenski Volk uses as source, and it's a perfectly acceptable WP:RS. On the other hand, it talks very little about Scythians. They are mentioned five times in the text, two of which deals with animal art and is of no interest for the topic at hand. The three remaining times, the authors talk about Scytho-Siberians. It would be helpful if Slovenski Volk could give a direct quote of the passage he builds his edit on, and if Zheek and Dougweller could explain what it is they feel is inappropriate in the edit.Jeppiz (talk) 16:22, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
The link Slovenski left links to here, which does not mention Scythians. If Scythians are mentioned, this information needs to be presented, else as it stands right now, it is original research. --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:35, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
It talks about Scytho-Siberians, and I must confess to not being aware of the exact relationship between Scytho-Siberians and Scythians. That's why I won't get involved in any editing of the issue, and that's why I asked Slovenski Volk for a clarification.Jeppiz (talk) 16:46, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
I reverted this revision and I explained my reason in edit summary. His edit was unsourced (just used a ref with this text: "Keyser 2009") and he changed current sourced content (changing "Iranian people" to "Iranic-speaking"). if a new theory/evidence with reliable sources is provided, we should mention it, but this doesn't mean we can change current sourced texts/content. New theory can be added to the current content and new changes should match with current sources. For example, consider this as an intro:
Scythians were an ancient Iranian people (sources) or an Iranian-speaking people (sources)...
Then I have a new RS that says "Scythians were X", I should add it to the article like this:
Scythians were an ancient Iranian people (sources) or an Iranian-speaking people (sources) or "Scythians were X" (source)...
We can not remove or replace previous sourced content because of new ones. We can reject them when they are completely rejected and not supported by experts and academic sources. Zheek (talk) 17:50, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
And why he reverted my general fixes (wikilink and dashes)? diff 1 - fixed wikilink, diff 2 - fixed dashes, and his RV. Zheek (talk) 18:24, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Edit request on 4 September 2012
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This category must be added to the article: Central Asian people It is because the genetic evidences shows that they were of Central Asian origin genetically as it is mentioned in the article, so it mst be added.
78.172.217.231 (talk) 00:58, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. A reliable source would also be useful. I don't believe that Category:Central Asian people should be added because, from what I've seen, it is used for more current people. But I'm happy to add it if there is a consensus reached here first. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:15, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 15 November 2012
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In section Scythians#Post-classical_.22Scythians.22's sub-section Scythians#Descent_claims's first line Jats are mentioned as claimed possible descendants of Scythians, alongwith several tribes. I am suggesting the admins/reviewer to add a reference for this — Sulimirski, Tadeusz (1970). The Sarmatians. Volume 73 of Ancient peoples and places. New York: Praeger. pp. 113–114. "The evidence of both the ancient authors and the archaeological remains point to a massive migration of Sacian (Sakas)/Massagetan ("great" Jat) tribes from the Syr Daria Delta (Central Asia) by the middle of the second century B.C. Some of the Syr Darian tribes; they also invaded North India." 202.131.116.162 (talk) 12:30, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Done Offline source accepted in good faith. ⋘HueSatLum ? ❢⋙ 22:44, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 22 November 2012
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In the section 'Scythians#Sakas_and_Indo-Scythians', there is a line, "Some Asian Saka include Nagbanshi, Bala, Gurjjara." Please add Jats also; providing the reference of Tadeusz Sulimirski -- Sulimirski, Tadeusz (1970). The Sarmatians. Volume 73 of Ancient peoples and places. New York: Praeger. pp. 113–114. "The evidence of both the ancient authors and the archaeological remains point to a massive migration of Sacian (Sakas)/Massagetan ("great" Jat) tribes from the Syr Daria Delta (Central Asia) by the middle of the second century B.C. Some of the Syr Darian tribes; they also invaded North India."
122.173.205.19 (talk) 05:08, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
see also -- Indo-Scythians#Descendants_of_the_Indo-Scythians 122.173.205.19 (talk) 05:22, 22 November 2012 (UTC) Yes check.svg DoneTil Eulenspiegel /talk/ 06:32, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
False information in Turkish language article
Dear Sir/Madam,
I just read the Turkish language article about "Scythians". Unfortunately, this article is full of false information and references can not be credible. This type of behavior is due to a sense of racism and chauvinism of its authors, who unfortunately make a shadow on the scientific nature and informative mission of the Wikipedia. I don't know if it is possible to do more audit on this kind of articles in another languages.
ref: [1]
Yours Faithfully, Mehdi Zarei. Mehdizj2000 (talk) 16:41, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
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This category must be added to the article: Central Asian people It is because the genetic evidences shows that they were of Central Asian origin genetically as it is mentioned in the article, so it mst be added.
78.172.217.231 (talk) 00:58, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. A reliable source would also be useful. I don't believe that Category:Central Asian people should be added because, from what I've seen, it is used for more current people. But I'm happy to add it if there is a consensus reached here first. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:15, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 15 November 2012
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In section Scythians#Post-classical_.22Scythians.22's sub-section Scythians#Descent_claims's first line Jats are mentioned as claimed possible descendants of Scythians, alongwith several tribes. I am suggesting the admins/reviewer to add a reference for this — Sulimirski, Tadeusz (1970). The Sarmatians. Volume 73 of Ancient peoples and places. New York: Praeger. pp. 113–114. "The evidence of both the ancient authors and the archaeological remains point to a massive migration of Sacian (Sakas)/Massagetan ("great" Jat) tribes from the Syr Daria Delta (Central Asia) by the middle of the second century B.C. Some of the Syr Darian tribes; they also invaded North India." 202.131.116.162 (talk) 12:30, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Done Offline source accepted in good faith. ⋘HueSatLum ? ❢⋙ 22:44, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 22 November 2012
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In the section 'Scythians#Sakas_and_Indo-Scythians', there is a line, "Some Asian Saka include Nagbanshi, Bala, Gurjjara." Please add Jats also; providing the reference of Tadeusz Sulimirski -- Sulimirski, Tadeusz (1970). The Sarmatians. Volume 73 of Ancient peoples and places. New York: Praeger. pp. 113–114. "The evidence of both the ancient authors and the archaeological remains point to a massive migration of Sacian (Sakas)/Massagetan ("great" Jat) tribes from the Syr Daria Delta (Central Asia) by the middle of the second century B.C. Some of the Syr Darian tribes; they also invaded North India."
122.173.205.19 (talk) 05:08, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
see also -- Indo-Scythians#Descendants_of_the_Indo-Scythians 122.173.205.19 (talk) 05:22, 22 November 2012 (UTC) Yes check.svg DoneTil Eulenspiegel /talk/ 06:32, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
False information in Turkish language article
Dear Sir/Madam,
I just read the Turkish language article about "Scythians". Unfortunately, this article is full of false information and references can not be credible. This type of behavior is due to a sense of racism and chauvinism of its authors, who unfortunately make a shadow on the scientific nature and informative mission of the Wikipedia. I don't know if it is possible to do more audit on this kind of articles in another languages.
ref: [1]
Yours Faithfully, Mehdi Zarei. Mehdizj2000 (talk) 16:41, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
pathetic state of article
Well, this has been a WP:BATTLEGROUND pitting Turkish nationalist trolls against Persian nationalist trolls. The loser is Wikipedia, and anyone expecting to find an article about Scythians at this address.
I have tried to fix the worst of the more recent deterioration, but the article is far from well or stable. Over all the trolling, it appears that fact-checking has suffered, not to mention encyclopedic style and structure. At least I have now put related material into the relevant sections so that blatant self-contradictions become more visible (such as Scythian women dressed in much the same fashion as men. Men and women dressed differently.)
I do not have the resources to babysit trolls these days, but the only workable approach here is to clamp down with zero tolerance on all ethnic bickering. The alternative is a perpetually broken article, and this cannot be in the interest of the project. On Wikipedia, the principle "anyone can edit" is clearly subservient and secondary to integrity of content. --dab (𒁳) 11:57, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Tamgas
We have a long-time Turkish nationalist trolling the "Scythian" articles, adding poorly referenced and completely disfigured material. The material is always based on a private website (s155239215.onlinehome.us).
In the case of the "Scythian tamgas", we are looking at this page, apparently based on a Russian publication identified as
(Russian) Yatsenko, S. A., "Tamgas of Iranolingual antique and Early Middle Ages people". Russian Academy of Science, Moscow Press "Eastern Literature", 2001
This is probably a decent study in origin, but we cannot use it via a completely broken English translation. We can add information about this if somebody can be bothered to properly identify this study, and consult it to see if it says anything about Scythians. --dab (𒁳) 12:27, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
The reference is apparently this:
С. А.Яценко, Знаки-тамги ираноязычных народов древности и раннего средневековья. М.: Восточная литература, 2001 (13 а.л., 190 с. + 36 табл.). 1000 экз.
If anyone manages to consult it, this would probably be a valuable addition to the Tamga article. --dab (𒁳) 12:32, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
I have this book. I'll read it and try to expand the articles. Feel free asking about the content of the book.--Bouron (talk) 14:17, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Oh wow, this sounds nice, another act of indo-europeanisation. --Tirgil34 (talk) 23:21, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
The etymology
The write-up is too condensed - it does not match the source very well. I altered it to fit the source. According to that source, Saka is not in the "shooter" group, it comes from an Iranian word "wander." Saka was the term used by the Persians. I am going to look at the removed "wanderer" etymology above to see if it cannot be put back in some form.Dave (talk) 01:51, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Well, I checked, and no, the writer was trying to relate "Scythian" to Bulgarian "wanderer" rather than Saka. There's no ref for it. If the author can find one, he might put it back as an alternative to the one given.Dave (talk) 01:55, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
скита - skita(skytha), скитач - skitach(skythach), да скита - da skita, on modern macedonian language is wanderer, to wander around.79.126.237.2 (talk) 23:38, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Totally Eurocentric wiev
This article is full of flase infomatin , unbalanced and eurocentric wiev of scytians. There are no standart origin thery for sctyinas, there are diffrent ones. But this article of wiki contains only one. Why ? BEcous of political and ideological wiew. İ will cahnge it .
((Copyright violation of material stolen from http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/60_Genetics/OssetianGeneticsEn.htm removed))
Balabanpasa (talk) 12:54, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
The article just neutrally summarizes (as defined here) what reliable sources (as defined here) have to say on the subject. Do not accuse people you do not know of bias without evidence, assume good faith is a cornerstone of this website. Your suggested additions include very few sources (giving undue weight to Russian sources), uses older (and probably outdated) sources, and editorializes (Wikipedia does not interpret sources to make a point). If you change the article to your suggested version, I will have to revert it and I'm totally sure that other editors will do so as well. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:03, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
And once again, you've posted the exact same copyrighted material you were previously told not to post. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:06, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
There are different theries about this subject but vikipedi show one , how will be call it ? And Abayes poit of iranian dialect is a old source for show them iranian too. İt declined most of writers today Balabanpasa (talk) 14:13, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
Personal theories and personal interpretation are not accepted here (see WP:No original research), nor does fringe material. Do not remove others' posts and do not post copyrighted material. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:18, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
Well, this has been a WP:BATTLEGROUND pitting Turkish nationalist trolls against Persian nationalist trolls. The loser is Wikipedia, and anyone expecting to find an article about Scythians at this address.
I have tried to fix the worst of the more recent deterioration, but the article is far from well or stable. Over all the trolling, it appears that fact-checking has suffered, not to mention encyclopedic style and structure. At least I have now put related material into the relevant sections so that blatant self-contradictions become more visible (such as Scythian women dressed in much the same fashion as men. Men and women dressed differently.)
I do not have the resources to babysit trolls these days, but the only workable approach here is to clamp down with zero tolerance on all ethnic bickering. The alternative is a perpetually broken article, and this cannot be in the interest of the project. On Wikipedia, the principle "anyone can edit" is clearly subservient and secondary to integrity of content. --dab (𒁳) 11:57, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Tamgas
We have a long-time Turkish nationalist trolling the "Scythian" articles, adding poorly referenced and completely disfigured material. The material is always based on a private website (s155239215.onlinehome.us).
In the case of the "Scythian tamgas", we are looking at this page, apparently based on a Russian publication identified as
(Russian) Yatsenko, S. A., "Tamgas of Iranolingual antique and Early Middle Ages people". Russian Academy of Science, Moscow Press "Eastern Literature", 2001
This is probably a decent study in origin, but we cannot use it via a completely broken English translation. We can add information about this if somebody can be bothered to properly identify this study, and consult it to see if it says anything about Scythians. --dab (𒁳) 12:27, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
The reference is apparently this:
С. А.Яценко, Знаки-тамги ираноязычных народов древности и раннего средневековья. М.: Восточная литература, 2001 (13 а.л., 190 с. + 36 табл.). 1000 экз.
If anyone manages to consult it, this would probably be a valuable addition to the Tamga article. --dab (𒁳) 12:32, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
I have this book. I'll read it and try to expand the articles. Feel free asking about the content of the book.--Bouron (talk) 14:17, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Oh wow, this sounds nice, another act of indo-europeanisation. --Tirgil34 (talk) 23:21, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
The etymology
The write-up is too condensed - it does not match the source very well. I altered it to fit the source. According to that source, Saka is not in the "shooter" group, it comes from an Iranian word "wander." Saka was the term used by the Persians. I am going to look at the removed "wanderer" etymology above to see if it cannot be put back in some form.Dave (talk) 01:51, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Well, I checked, and no, the writer was trying to relate "Scythian" to Bulgarian "wanderer" rather than Saka. There's no ref for it. If the author can find one, he might put it back as an alternative to the one given.Dave (talk) 01:55, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
скита - skita(skytha), скитач - skitach(skythach), да скита - da skita, on modern macedonian language is wanderer, to wander around.79.126.237.2 (talk) 23:38, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Totally Eurocentric wiev
This article is full of flase infomatin , unbalanced and eurocentric wiev of scytians. There are no standart origin thery for sctyinas, there are diffrent ones. But this article of wiki contains only one. Why ? BEcous of political and ideological wiew. İ will cahnge it .
((Copyright violation of material stolen from http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/60_Genetics/OssetianGeneticsEn.htm removed))
Balabanpasa (talk) 12:54, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
The article just neutrally summarizes (as defined here) what reliable sources (as defined here) have to say on the subject. Do not accuse people you do not know of bias without evidence, assume good faith is a cornerstone of this website. Your suggested additions include very few sources (giving undue weight to Russian sources), uses older (and probably outdated) sources, and editorializes (Wikipedia does not interpret sources to make a point). If you change the article to your suggested version, I will have to revert it and I'm totally sure that other editors will do so as well. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:03, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
And once again, you've posted the exact same copyrighted material you were previously told not to post. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:06, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
There are different theries about this subject but vikipedi show one , how will be call it ? And Abayes poit of iranian dialect is a old source for show them iranian too. İt declined most of writers today Balabanpasa (talk) 14:13, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
Personal theories and personal interpretation are not accepted here (see WP:No original research), nor does fringe material. Do not remove others' posts and do not post copyrighted material. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:18, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/60_Genetics/OssetianGeneticsEn.htm
15 May 2016 04:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Can we have a clear answer on what the Scythians called themselves?
The etymology section as it stands is just a jumble of similar sounding ethnonyms with no distinction made between self-designative names and non-native names, all of them seem to be clustered together as if the Scythians referred to themselves as something different for every day of the week.
The plethora of names is ridiculous. I've heard "Skuda"/"Skudat", "Skolotoi" (from which the Greek "Scoloti" is apparently derived), Saka (which appears to refer to the spoken language and ethnic group) and Khotanese.
The ambiguity of the Scythian etymology is really unparalleled, it's needlessly confusing and just seems to thin out the available, documented, historical evidence we have about these very obscure, wandering nomads; which is not much in the first place. Gamer112(Aus) (talk) 16:09, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
The Scythians are for all practical purposes a prehistoric people.
It isn't even clear that they themselves considered themselves a single people, that's just the perception from the outside. So consequently, there may have been as many self-designations as there were tribes, practically all of them unknown. --dab (𒁳) 08:18, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
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scythians were calling themselves "sakha" people, there are still people who call themselves sakha, they live in sakha republic, east russia confederation. and they are a turkic poeple, how ever scythians most likely were pro turkic because they had originated from altai mountains. the ancient mother land of turkic people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.225.138.83 (talk) 19:54, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Ashkenazi
"It may have provided the source for biblical Hebrew Ashkenaz (original *אשכוז ’škuz got misspelled as אשכנז ’šknz), later a Jewish name of the Germanic areas of Central Europe and hence a self-descriptor of the Central European Jews who lived there among the Ashkenazim ("Germans") at that time called Teutons or Wendels."
I do not believe this unreferenced paragraph is accurate. It does not correspond to the article on Ashkenazi Jews. It would need a reference, certainly. However, it seems not really to be about the Scythians; it is off-topic. The Ashkenazi I know of were not confined to central Europe and I don't know of any use of the word to mean Germans or Wends. In fact, in every use I've ever seen it always refered to one of the two main branches of Jewish culture, especially with regard to language and custom. As far as I know the jews of Europe never called themselves Germans or Slavs. The language they are known for, Yiddish, means "Jewish". It is a Germanic language.Dave (talk) 22:02, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
For your occultists above - 1. Torah was written in 11th century AD, known as Leningrad Codex, besides "Hebrew" language has NOTHING to do with "Indo-European" language and less with Teutons and Wendels (old Slavs) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.198.131.70 (talk) 18:03, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
vandalism of the page
This page gets constantly vandalized by various users (almost always due to the background of Scythians). Any decent search into google scholars of the last 50 years shows that the Iranian background of Scythians is the prevalent viewpoint. I have quoted Encyclopaedia Britannica: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/530361/Scythian "Scythian, member of a nomadic people originally of Iranian stock who migrated from Central Asia to southern Russia in the 8th and 7th centuries bc." Dozens of others sources have been quoted. If one looks back to the history of the page, similar ips deleted the word Iranian [6]. I hope the page is protected from such vandalism (it seems the users who are not sensitive if the word Iranian is deleted).. --74.96.254.213 (talk) 04:32, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
Sorry but it is a theory, not a fact. The article already has is a section on the origins of Scythians, quoting various sources, and you will clearly see that while the Iranian origin is the predominant theory, it is not considered irrefutable. That is why it is important to ensure that the header is non-POV, and unbiased. Please do add any relevant information you think is missing to the sub-sections f the article, but the header needs to be clear that the origins are not 100% certain.--Therexbanner (talk) 16:08, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
The current theory is the one lead by numerous scientists.. if there is any other theory it needs to be shown to be significant. As long as the scholarly concensus (overwhelming majority of scholars) states Iranian and there is no serious other theories, then one cannot provide equal weight WP:WEIGHT. If you want, get a third opinion on the issue, but the page had Iranian for a long time until it was vandalized. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.96.254.213 (talk) 17:19, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
I think it's better to request a "semi protection" for this article (edit available only for auto confirmed users). Xooon (talk) 02:33, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
That would be highly inappropriate, and hopefully declined. This is clearly a content dispute, which the IP has as much right to participate in as a registered user. If you need to, please pursue dispute resolution on the matter. Qwyrxian (talk) 03:13, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
A question: Changing/replacing sourced content with false/not mentioned content is equal to content dispute or falsification? For example, The source says: "A is X". Then, an user changed it to: "B is X", or "B and C is X", or "A is Z", or "B is Z", and etc... When I browse this article version history, there are many edits like above examples (by both IPs and registered users) You said: "This is clearly a content dispute...". But I think it's not. I don't want to lock this page forever. Because we need every bit of good edits by both IPs and the others. But protecting this page for a definite time (short, at most 1 or 2 weeks) can help content improving and we can have a stable revision. This is just a suggestion. Because many editors watch this article, so the content is well maintained. If my suggestion does not help and makes only restrictions, OK, then there is no need to change current status. I don't like collaboration will become limited. Xooon (talk) 05:30, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
this page has been created by Persian vandals who are known to be trolling in wikipedia, there has never been any thing caled iranian people, Scythians brought Zorrostrian religion to Persia and some words of their proto Turkic language got through Persian language, that does not make Persians Aryans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.164.110.141 (talk) 19:53, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
This is Wikipedia. Please begin by reading WP:5P, then WP:FORUM and WP:RS if you want to participate. --dab (𒁳) 11:16, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
The etymology section as it stands is just a jumble of similar sounding ethnonyms with no distinction made between self-designative names and non-native names, all of them seem to be clustered together as if the Scythians referred to themselves as something different for every day of the week.
The plethora of names is ridiculous. I've heard "Skuda"/"Skudat", "Skolotoi" (from which the Greek "Scoloti" is apparently derived), Saka (which appears to refer to the spoken language and ethnic group) and Khotanese.
The ambiguity of the Scythian etymology is really unparalleled, it's needlessly confusing and just seems to thin out the available, documented, historical evidence we have about these very obscure, wandering nomads; which is not much in the first place. Gamer112(Aus) (talk) 16:09, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
The Scythians are for all practical purposes a prehistoric people.
It isn't even clear that they themselves considered themselves a single people, that's just the perception from the outside. So consequently, there may have been as many self-designations as there were tribes, practically all of them unknown. --dab (𒁳) 08:18, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
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scythians were calling themselves "sakha" people, there are still people who call themselves sakha, they live in sakha republic, east russia confederation. and they are a turkic poeple, how ever scythians most likely were pro turkic because they had originated from altai mountains. the ancient mother land of turkic people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.225.138.83 (talk) 19:54, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Ashkenazi
"It may have provided the source for biblical Hebrew Ashkenaz (original *אשכוז ’škuz got misspelled as אשכנז ’šknz), later a Jewish name of the Germanic areas of Central Europe and hence a self-descriptor of the Central European Jews who lived there among the Ashkenazim ("Germans") at that time called Teutons or Wendels."
I do not believe this unreferenced paragraph is accurate. It does not correspond to the article on Ashkenazi Jews. It would need a reference, certainly. However, it seems not really to be about the Scythians; it is off-topic. The Ashkenazi I know of were not confined to central Europe and I don't know of any use of the word to mean Germans or Wends. In fact, in every use I've ever seen it always refered to one of the two main branches of Jewish culture, especially with regard to language and custom. As far as I know the jews of Europe never called themselves Germans or Slavs. The language they are known for, Yiddish, means "Jewish". It is a Germanic language.Dave (talk) 22:02, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
For your occultists above - 1. Torah was written in 11th century AD, known as Leningrad Codex, besides "Hebrew" language has NOTHING to do with "Indo-European" language and less with Teutons and Wendels (old Slavs) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.198.131.70 (talk) 18:03, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
vandalism of the page
This page gets constantly vandalized by various users (almost always due to the background of Scythians). Any decent search into google scholars of the last 50 years shows that the Iranian background of Scythians is the prevalent viewpoint. I have quoted Encyclopaedia Britannica: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/530361/Scythian "Scythian, member of a nomadic people originally of Iranian stock who migrated from Central Asia to southern Russia in the 8th and 7th centuries bc." Dozens of others sources have been quoted. If one looks back to the history of the page, similar ips deleted the word Iranian [6]. I hope the page is protected from such vandalism (it seems the users who are not sensitive if the word Iranian is deleted).. --74.96.254.213 (talk) 04:32, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
Sorry but it is a theory, not a fact. The article already has is a section on the origins of Scythians, quoting various sources, and you will clearly see that while the Iranian origin is the predominant theory, it is not considered irrefutable. That is why it is important to ensure that the header is non-POV, and unbiased. Please do add any relevant information you think is missing to the sub-sections f the article, but the header needs to be clear that the origins are not 100% certain.--Therexbanner (talk) 16:08, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
The current theory is the one lead by numerous scientists.. if there is any other theory it needs to be shown to be significant. As long as the scholarly concensus (overwhelming majority of scholars) states Iranian and there is no serious other theories, then one cannot provide equal weight WP:WEIGHT. If you want, get a third opinion on the issue, but the page had Iranian for a long time until it was vandalized. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.96.254.213 (talk) 17:19, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
I think it's better to request a "semi protection" for this article (edit available only for auto confirmed users). Xooon (talk) 02:33, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
That would be highly inappropriate, and hopefully declined. This is clearly a content dispute, which the IP has as much right to participate in as a registered user. If you need to, please pursue dispute resolution on the matter. Qwyrxian (talk) 03:13, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
A question: Changing/replacing sourced content with false/not mentioned content is equal to content dispute or falsification? For example, The source says: "A is X". Then, an user changed it to: "B is X", or "B and C is X", or "A is Z", or "B is Z", and etc... When I browse this article version history, there are many edits like above examples (by both IPs and registered users) You said: "This is clearly a content dispute...". But I think it's not. I don't want to lock this page forever. Because we need every bit of good edits by both IPs and the others. But protecting this page for a definite time (short, at most 1 or 2 weeks) can help content improving and we can have a stable revision. This is just a suggestion. Because many editors watch this article, so the content is well maintained. If my suggestion does not help and makes only restrictions, OK, then there is no need to change current status. I don't like collaboration will become limited. Xooon (talk) 05:30, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
this page has been created by Persian vandals who are known to be trolling in wikipedia, there has never been any thing caled iranian people, Scythians brought Zorrostrian religion to Persia and some words of their proto Turkic language got through Persian language, that does not make Persians Aryans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.164.110.141 (talk) 19:53, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
This is Wikipedia. Please begin by reading WP:5P, then WP:FORUM and WP:RS if you want to participate. --dab (𒁳) 11:16, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/530361/Scythian
15 May 2016 04:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Why everyone wants to have Scythian ancestors?
I really expect the moment when someone will try to add a section "proving" that the word "USA" comes from "Scythian" and "America" is an ancient Scythian term. We have already Germans, Slavs, Hungarians, Iranians etc. etc. as the true Scythian heirs.
I do believe it's time to finish with this silliness and entomb all those speculations in one section of the article about false etymology, urban legends and other non-scientific theories about Scythian heritage in the modern world. --Friendly Neighbour 07:56, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
that sort of Scythomania is in itself an interesting historical phenomenon. I've never felt the desire to consider myself a true-blooded heir of the Scythians, so I'm not sure I can follow the why, but I think the thing is fascinating the way all weird and irrational twists and turns of history can be fascinating in retrospect (a bit like Abba, Postmodernism or the hennin). dab (𒁳) 19:57, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh, finally someone asked this question! I read through this and other articles and online sources on scythian history, interesting, but not fascinating. Never created big civilizations, didn't leave much cultural heritage if any, had rather episodical and mostly destructive impact on human history and finally succumbed completely to smaller numbers of less advanced turkic invaders. Not much to be proud of, yet such a rush to get related. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.124.89.44 (talk) 16:14, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Scythians had an extremely barbaric way of life, yet their lifestyle was milder than turks and mongols and more cultural (This is well described by the number of their artifacts, their ritualistic burials and inventions like the carpets and early use of horses and horse-ware[!]). I think as those people have gradually vanished in the history, this must add to their mysterious nature and level of "coolness".حضرت محمود (talk) 08:55, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Must be something like this. The Scythians were a cool warrior society of conquerors. Who doesn't like victorious barbarian hordes on horseback? But I wonder whether there isn't more behind this. After all, it is surprising how already the actual barbarians of the migration period were careful to emphasize their Scythian roots. I suspect that the Scythians did in fact exert considerable influence on European culture in the Iron Age (note the Scythian-Celtic-Germanic connections of the ornamental animal style over the centuries), and that genealogical narratives were constructed to somehow account for memories of such influence. I am just saying the question may be deeper than it appears at first sight, I am not proposing to put any of this in the article. --dab (𒁳) 08:55, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
There is more. As someone of part-Turkish and part-Hungarian ancestry myself, I too had a period in my life where I was certain that the Scythians were proto-Turks or proto-Magyars. Now, however, in light of what I’ve learned, I am in a different opinion. The name Scythian, just like Hun, Mongol, Tartar, Turk, Uighur, etc. was an umbrella-term applied to all of the distinct-yet-culturally-similar tribes of the steppe. Let me put it this way, there are many Iranic-Turkic or Mongolian speaking tribes that come together once in a while, form a nomadic confederacy, and are named after the central tribe that united them. Think of Genghis Khan, and how his Mongols had more Turks then “pure” Mongols. You see, the distinction between a Mongol-speaking and a Turkish-speaking tribe usually was not more than that between a Turkish-speaking and Turkish-speaking tribe. And while Persian or later on Chagatai was the lingua franca, all of these tribes accepted themselves only as that: Central Asian horse peoples.
Enough of that rant. Let me come to the real point: why do we all try to prove that we are Scythian? Because the Scythians were our “cultural fathers,” they were the first steppe-dwelling horse-peoples and therefore, they formed the basis of the entire Steppe culture that even now still exists in isolated pockets in Eurasia, without having changed much. The Scythians were the real Eurasian nomads, and everything after them, the Mongols, Huns, Turks, are their legacy and follow their footsteps. That is why we all want to prove that we are Scythians, because the Scythians were the true nomads, the founders of the steppe-culture (which, alas, most of us have long forgotten). If one nation is proven to be the direct descendants of the Scythians, then everything else that happened in the steppes is due to them. Think this: the descendants of the Scythians would be the “nobles” of the Horse Peoples.
As for my own humble, worthless opinion, I think that this is ridiculous. All of the following steppe peoples. The Huns, Turks, Mongols, Magyars, Tartars, Sarmatians, Persians, Goths, all of them had their nucleus in the Scythians and were part of the tribes that formed up the “nation,” regardless of name and race. Just as it is with the Mongols and Huns. The rest is just names.-----Seljuq--- (talk) 02:21, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
The Scythian-origin tales are not a modern phenomenon, all of these legends are many centuries old. Even by classical antiquity, Scythians were regarded as one of the original proto-races and vied with the Egyptians for the honour of being the very first, as the Greek historians relate. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 16:14, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
I really expect the moment when someone will try to add a section "proving" that the word "USA" comes from "Scythian" and "America" is an ancient Scythian term. We have already Germans, Slavs, Hungarians, Iranians etc. etc. as the true Scythian heirs.
I do believe it's time to finish with this silliness and entomb all those speculations in one section of the article about false etymology, urban legends and other non-scientific theories about Scythian heritage in the modern world. --Friendly Neighbour 07:56, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
that sort of Scythomania is in itself an interesting historical phenomenon. I've never felt the desire to consider myself a true-blooded heir of the Scythians, so I'm not sure I can follow the why, but I think the thing is fascinating the way all weird and irrational twists and turns of history can be fascinating in retrospect (a bit like Abba, Postmodernism or the hennin). dab (𒁳) 19:57, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh, finally someone asked this question! I read through this and other articles and online sources on scythian history, interesting, but not fascinating. Never created big civilizations, didn't leave much cultural heritage if any, had rather episodical and mostly destructive impact on human history and finally succumbed completely to smaller numbers of less advanced turkic invaders. Not much to be proud of, yet such a rush to get related. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.124.89.44 (talk) 16:14, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Scythians had an extremely barbaric way of life, yet their lifestyle was milder than turks and mongols and more cultural (This is well described by the number of their artifacts, their ritualistic burials and inventions like the carpets and early use of horses and horse-ware[!]). I think as those people have gradually vanished in the history, this must add to their mysterious nature and level of "coolness".حضرت محمود (talk) 08:55, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Must be something like this. The Scythians were a cool warrior society of conquerors. Who doesn't like victorious barbarian hordes on horseback? But I wonder whether there isn't more behind this. After all, it is surprising how already the actual barbarians of the migration period were careful to emphasize their Scythian roots. I suspect that the Scythians did in fact exert considerable influence on European culture in the Iron Age (note the Scythian-Celtic-Germanic connections of the ornamental animal style over the centuries), and that genealogical narratives were constructed to somehow account for memories of such influence. I am just saying the question may be deeper than it appears at first sight, I am not proposing to put any of this in the article. --dab (𒁳) 08:55, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
There is more. As someone of part-Turkish and part-Hungarian ancestry myself, I too had a period in my life where I was certain that the Scythians were proto-Turks or proto-Magyars. Now, however, in light of what I’ve learned, I am in a different opinion. The name Scythian, just like Hun, Mongol, Tartar, Turk, Uighur, etc. was an umbrella-term applied to all of the distinct-yet-culturally-similar tribes of the steppe. Let me put it this way, there are many Iranic-Turkic or Mongolian speaking tribes that come together once in a while, form a nomadic confederacy, and are named after the central tribe that united them. Think of Genghis Khan, and how his Mongols had more Turks then “pure” Mongols. You see, the distinction between a Mongol-speaking and a Turkish-speaking tribe usually was not more than that between a Turkish-speaking and Turkish-speaking tribe. And while Persian or later on Chagatai was the lingua franca, all of these tribes accepted themselves only as that: Central Asian horse peoples.
Enough of that rant. Let me come to the real point: why do we all try to prove that we are Scythian? Because the Scythians were our “cultural fathers,” they were the first steppe-dwelling horse-peoples and therefore, they formed the basis of the entire Steppe culture that even now still exists in isolated pockets in Eurasia, without having changed much. The Scythians were the real Eurasian nomads, and everything after them, the Mongols, Huns, Turks, are their legacy and follow their footsteps. That is why we all want to prove that we are Scythians, because the Scythians were the true nomads, the founders of the steppe-culture (which, alas, most of us have long forgotten). If one nation is proven to be the direct descendants of the Scythians, then everything else that happened in the steppes is due to them. Think this: the descendants of the Scythians would be the “nobles” of the Horse Peoples.
As for my own humble, worthless opinion, I think that this is ridiculous. All of the following steppe peoples. The Huns, Turks, Mongols, Magyars, Tartars, Sarmatians, Persians, Goths, all of them had their nucleus in the Scythians and were part of the tribes that formed up the “nation,” regardless of name and race. Just as it is with the Mongols and Huns. The rest is just names.-----Seljuq--- (talk) 02:21, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
The Scythian-origin tales are not a modern phenomenon, all of these legends are many centuries old. Even by classical antiquity, Scythians were regarded as one of the original proto-races and vied with the Egyptians for the honour of being the very first, as the Greek historians relate. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 16:14, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Maeotians and Sindi
I find it extremely improbable that the Maeotian and Sindi tribes of the the Taman peninsula spoke Indo-Aryan languages. What is the source for this statement? In Indo-European linguistics the term 'Indo-Aryan' references solely the Indo-European languages of the Indian Sub-Continent, as against the Indo-Iranian languages discussed in the present article.
The Taman peninsula is part of the historic territory of the North-west Caucasian (Adyghe) tribes, and there is firm evidence that the Maeotians were members of this group. It is known that they traded with the Greek city-colonies of the the north-eastern Black Sea region, as, indeed, did the Scythian tribes and, later, the Sarmatians. In the first millenium BCE Adyghe tribes seem to have extended much further to the west - certainly to the Crimean peninsula - than the much reduced immediate North-west Caucasus area they now occupy, and were swept up in and absorbed by subsequent folk migrations, ref. 'The Circassians: A Handbook' by Amjad Jaimoukha.(Peoples of the Caucasus Handbooks, originally published by Curzon.) Geoff Powers (talk) 11:52, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Chromosome DNA on ancient Bronze Age skeletons?
Someone just added this: "Y-Chromosome DNA testing performed on ancient Scythian skeletons dating to the Bronze and Iron Ages in the Siberian Krasnoyarsk region found that..."
I'm no expert, so please pardon my ignorance, but not so long ago, it seemed like it was "common knowledge" that Bronze Age skeletons didn't have any Chromosomes or DNA on them. But nowadays (ie the past couple of years) we see bold claims like this being put forth more and more often. Has there been some tremendous new advance that allows us to determine a skeleton's genetics? Or is this a red flag? Thanks to anyone who can explain for patiently indulging my query. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 14:07, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
DNA has been used on bones a lot further back than the Bronze Age [3], but here's a sample article for Bronze Age [4]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dougweller (talk • contribs) 14:19, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, I looked at both of those URLS - "The interpretation given to the findings of the world's oldest DNA samples was that Greenland had been a green and forested area within the last million years; providing a different picture to the barren wasteland that was previously envisioned." - very fascinating stuff, although I'd guess only a very tiny percentage of living people today would be able to follow arguments like "polymerase chain reactions" and "hybridization probing" much, beyond the sheer impressive sound of these words! Anyway, sorry to digress from the topic of Scythians, and thanks again for the explanations. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 14:46, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Herodotus
Citations to Herodotus are done in a few different ways. Perhaps they should be consistent. The first ones I encountered were done Harvard ref style: (Herodotus x.y). You do see this in encyclopedias, especially Britannica. This method seems convenient to me; this ancient author does not take full modern book citation and it is perhaps better not to tell the reader what publication of what translation he must use. The linked Herodotus article contains full links to online versions of his work; either a translation or the original are available without moving from your chair. In some places the Herodotus cite has been placed in a note. If there is no objection I think I will put those in the Harvard ref form.Dave (talk) 13:59, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
there are no doubts about ashkenazim origins, khazars were called red jews in old times, it is the best and only real solution to consider ashkenazim as descendants of khazars, when khazar empire collapsed the east europe was being ruled by other turkic khanats like bulgars and cumans, it is quite reasonable to consider some khazrs took refuge in their brotheren's lands and kingdoms.
can any one please tell me what is the "iranian people"?? iranian is not a race and the name iran is recently adopted, there has not been any iran or iranian people at the scythian's time, they definately have been a pro- turkic people from altai mountains, if u study the history u will see all of the turkic tribes were described as white/blond people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.225.129.55 (talk) 11:17, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Anon, to quote an episode of STAR TREK: "your facts are un-coordinated" - use Reliable Sources for the Talk Pages - they are not a place for wild fantasy, soap-boxing and they certainly are not a forum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HammerFilmFan (talk • contribs) 20:43, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Objection
concerning thesis in section Origins. Mentined Collosans 3:11 pairs oppositions. So Scythians could not be any kind of barbarians, despite customs connected with war art. Author specifies them as example of civilized people rather than barbarians. And this view is consistent with knowledge about my ancestors. Or else, how forefathers of almost all world civilisations could be barbarians in historical period when even in prehistory weren't? PS Greetings from Poland, fatherland of West Scythians aka Sarmatians, Alans, Slavians. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.13.170.66 (talk) 16:09, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Um, no. For starters, ALL "forefathers" of civilized people were at one point un-civilized, aka "barbarians" - a term which due to its sometimes negative connotations, many modern people shy away from. The Scyths are not the origin of 'almost all world civilizations' - they had nothing to do with the some dozen-odd Meso-American civilizations, or any of the Semitic civilizations, nor the Sumerians, or Elam, nor the Indus-Valley civilization, nor the Chinese/Korean/Japanese/Khmer civilizations, the Etruscans, etc. Also, don't confuse Indo-European LANGUAGES with peoples; language can spread to indigenous populations without massive invasions of foreign peoples. The mounted peoples of the steppe were not urban people. History shows that the Slavs originated out of Black Forest regions, and were not Scyths. HammerFilmFan (talk) 20:51, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Material deleted from genetics
Even the edit summary left by the editor who restored the material seems to suggest that the article doesn't back the text he added. The second source, [5] doesn't seem to meet our criteria at WP:RS. Dougweller (talk) 13:22, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
Dated statement
The piece now contains this statement: "A second school of thought suggests an autochthonous development from within the Pontic steppe/ trans-Caucasian region. Followers of this theory argue that the Scythians emerged from local groups of the Timber Grave culture (broadly associated with the "Cimmerians"), who rose as the new leaders of the region. This second theory is supported by anthropological evidence which has found that Scythian skulls are similar to preceding findings from the Timber Grave culture, and distinct from those of the Central Asian Sacae. (Pavel Dolukhanov. The Early Slavs. Eastern Europe from the initial Settlement to the Kievan Rus. Longman, 1996. Pg 125) Aside from being quite dated (1996), I think it's a stretch to pin an entire theory on cranial measurements. MarmadukePercy (talk) 19:31, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
1996 is "quite dated"? Anyway, it doesn't matter what our personal opinion is, it is that of the Reliable Sources that matters. HammerFilmFan (talk) 15:58, 25 August 2011 (UTC) HammerFilmFan
I find it extremely improbable that the Maeotian and Sindi tribes of the the Taman peninsula spoke Indo-Aryan languages. What is the source for this statement? In Indo-European linguistics the term 'Indo-Aryan' references solely the Indo-European languages of the Indian Sub-Continent, as against the Indo-Iranian languages discussed in the present article.
The Taman peninsula is part of the historic territory of the North-west Caucasian (Adyghe) tribes, and there is firm evidence that the Maeotians were members of this group. It is known that they traded with the Greek city-colonies of the the north-eastern Black Sea region, as, indeed, did the Scythian tribes and, later, the Sarmatians. In the first millenium BCE Adyghe tribes seem to have extended much further to the west - certainly to the Crimean peninsula - than the much reduced immediate North-west Caucasus area they now occupy, and were swept up in and absorbed by subsequent folk migrations, ref. 'The Circassians: A Handbook' by Amjad Jaimoukha.(Peoples of the Caucasus Handbooks, originally published by Curzon.) Geoff Powers (talk) 11:52, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Chromosome DNA on ancient Bronze Age skeletons?
Someone just added this: "Y-Chromosome DNA testing performed on ancient Scythian skeletons dating to the Bronze and Iron Ages in the Siberian Krasnoyarsk region found that..."
I'm no expert, so please pardon my ignorance, but not so long ago, it seemed like it was "common knowledge" that Bronze Age skeletons didn't have any Chromosomes or DNA on them. But nowadays (ie the past couple of years) we see bold claims like this being put forth more and more often. Has there been some tremendous new advance that allows us to determine a skeleton's genetics? Or is this a red flag? Thanks to anyone who can explain for patiently indulging my query. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 14:07, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
DNA has been used on bones a lot further back than the Bronze Age [3], but here's a sample article for Bronze Age [4]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dougweller (talk • contribs) 14:19, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, I looked at both of those URLS - "The interpretation given to the findings of the world's oldest DNA samples was that Greenland had been a green and forested area within the last million years; providing a different picture to the barren wasteland that was previously envisioned." - very fascinating stuff, although I'd guess only a very tiny percentage of living people today would be able to follow arguments like "polymerase chain reactions" and "hybridization probing" much, beyond the sheer impressive sound of these words! Anyway, sorry to digress from the topic of Scythians, and thanks again for the explanations. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 14:46, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Herodotus
Citations to Herodotus are done in a few different ways. Perhaps they should be consistent. The first ones I encountered were done Harvard ref style: (Herodotus x.y). You do see this in encyclopedias, especially Britannica. This method seems convenient to me; this ancient author does not take full modern book citation and it is perhaps better not to tell the reader what publication of what translation he must use. The linked Herodotus article contains full links to online versions of his work; either a translation or the original are available without moving from your chair. In some places the Herodotus cite has been placed in a note. If there is no objection I think I will put those in the Harvard ref form.Dave (talk) 13:59, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
there are no doubts about ashkenazim origins, khazars were called red jews in old times, it is the best and only real solution to consider ashkenazim as descendants of khazars, when khazar empire collapsed the east europe was being ruled by other turkic khanats like bulgars and cumans, it is quite reasonable to consider some khazrs took refuge in their brotheren's lands and kingdoms.
can any one please tell me what is the "iranian people"?? iranian is not a race and the name iran is recently adopted, there has not been any iran or iranian people at the scythian's time, they definately have been a pro- turkic people from altai mountains, if u study the history u will see all of the turkic tribes were described as white/blond people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.225.129.55 (talk) 11:17, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Anon, to quote an episode of STAR TREK: "your facts are un-coordinated" - use Reliable Sources for the Talk Pages - they are not a place for wild fantasy, soap-boxing and they certainly are not a forum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HammerFilmFan (talk • contribs) 20:43, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Objection
concerning thesis in section Origins. Mentined Collosans 3:11 pairs oppositions. So Scythians could not be any kind of barbarians, despite customs connected with war art. Author specifies them as example of civilized people rather than barbarians. And this view is consistent with knowledge about my ancestors. Or else, how forefathers of almost all world civilisations could be barbarians in historical period when even in prehistory weren't? PS Greetings from Poland, fatherland of West Scythians aka Sarmatians, Alans, Slavians. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.13.170.66 (talk) 16:09, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Um, no. For starters, ALL "forefathers" of civilized people were at one point un-civilized, aka "barbarians" - a term which due to its sometimes negative connotations, many modern people shy away from. The Scyths are not the origin of 'almost all world civilizations' - they had nothing to do with the some dozen-odd Meso-American civilizations, or any of the Semitic civilizations, nor the Sumerians, or Elam, nor the Indus-Valley civilization, nor the Chinese/Korean/Japanese/Khmer civilizations, the Etruscans, etc. Also, don't confuse Indo-European LANGUAGES with peoples; language can spread to indigenous populations without massive invasions of foreign peoples. The mounted peoples of the steppe were not urban people. History shows that the Slavs originated out of Black Forest regions, and were not Scyths. HammerFilmFan (talk) 20:51, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Material deleted from genetics
Even the edit summary left by the editor who restored the material seems to suggest that the article doesn't back the text he added. The second source, [5] doesn't seem to meet our criteria at WP:RS. Dougweller (talk) 13:22, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
Dated statement
The piece now contains this statement: "A second school of thought suggests an autochthonous development from within the Pontic steppe/ trans-Caucasian region. Followers of this theory argue that the Scythians emerged from local groups of the Timber Grave culture (broadly associated with the "Cimmerians"), who rose as the new leaders of the region. This second theory is supported by anthropological evidence which has found that Scythian skulls are similar to preceding findings from the Timber Grave culture, and distinct from those of the Central Asian Sacae. (Pavel Dolukhanov. The Early Slavs. Eastern Europe from the initial Settlement to the Kievan Rus. Longman, 1996. Pg 125) Aside from being quite dated (1996), I think it's a stretch to pin an entire theory on cranial measurements. MarmadukePercy (talk) 19:31, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
1996 is "quite dated"? Anyway, it doesn't matter what our personal opinion is, it is that of the Reliable Sources that matters. HammerFilmFan (talk) 15:58, 25 August 2011 (UTC) HammerFilmFan
15 May 2016 04:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Scythians and Scythic= the Zelenchuk script , everything points to an Iraqian Arab origin!
Dear mr's and ms's as you know history was misused by the racist white man kokazid imperialistic and racist theories (remember crusades, inquisition, colonisation, ww1, ww2, iraq war, afghanistan war, massacres and deportations of Turks, Uyghurs, Arabs, Chechens, Tatars etc...) Since the kokazawid white man from caves (ie Neanderthalos and Cromagnon) is synonim with evil and destruction.
But the Adamic humans (ie the ones from Adam+Eve hg's + mt DNA F,G,H,R,I,J,K etc...) gave civilization+religion+architecture+alphabet to the world. Why why WHY W H Y bekoz we are from Adam and paradise thus no strange that all nobel prizes are from arabian ashkenaz (iskit) or arabian-mixed cromagnons+neanderatluziiis.
Thus in light of the above you should know that Scythians are Arabian (europe comes from arab=west) Scythians are Arab Scythians are Arab Scythians are Arab Scythians are Arab Scythians are Arab Scythians are Arab Scythians are Arab Do you understand? Do you understand? Do you understand? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THEY ARE ARABS ARABS ARABS ARABS... A-RA-BS SCYTHIANS ARE AR-ABS AND INDO-EUROPEANS ARE ARABS ARABS ARABS ARABS AR-AB-S!
First attestation of Scythians and Indo-European dialect of Arabic speaking Arabs was in Arab Assyrian documents and they are named Ashkuz=strong in Arabic from the root "shkz" as well as their language is Arabic (from the Arabic Canaanite alphabet) as could be seen from the Zelenchuk script please see below
http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/27_Scythians/ZgustaZelenchukEn_files/ZelenchukKafoev's_drawing.gif
It's written: 1ashkuz
2ta=>ashkuzta=schythia
3adhim=great and so on"
THE STAFF BELOW IS FUNNY IS NOT but sadly similar rhetorics are present in this article as well its Turkish and other versions, you should not believe in everything only because it's was written in a book by scholars!
So as long as we dont know 100% the language and the geographic origin of the Scythians (as well as why should a tribe first attested in Assyrian documents be from empty cold and very poorly habitated Steppes origin and not the overcrowded agricultural mesopotamia"
Please study my requests
Have a good work
Yours Hum An By, Castelnegro Campania Italy
Humanbyrace (talk) 12:26, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Dude, saying white people are inherently evil cave men is racist. Just so you know. Take your post, switch "kokazid" with "Arab," and you have the very racism you seem to have a problem with. Hypocrite. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:39, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
I was of course joking :) and of course there is no angel and evil; what I want to say (this time I am serious) that I noticed that some Wikipedia moderators accept to include the claims "they like" as long as they have sources but dont accept to include the claims "they dont like" even when sourced for example when I brought a source saying that the first swastika motif was found in central Iraq and goes back to 6300 bc then some moderators did not include it because how come Iraq has swastika!!! but when there are claims that evil arab and muslims enslaved as much as 1,25 mln Europeans in North Africa they are quickly included and common folk would read this and believe it as well as other claims of the Bernard Luis etc... Come on the whole North-Africa (except Egypt) had a population of 3 mlns and there is no mines or extensive farms to make work as high as 1,25 mln Europeans or sub-saharan Africans despite genetic studies (Y-DNA+mt DNA+autosomal mapping) is unable to find those 1,25 mln European slaves!!! afaik apartheid laws are a product of "white man"(I am not using "white" in the phenotypic sens myself I am blue eyed blonde haired white skinned) in USA and South Africa. Also when speaking about Semitic/Indo-European similarities I was insulted and attacked as they think "how come sub-human arab and semites have a language similar to the one of us the super-human whites" What about Indo-European Bengalis and Pakistanis why it should be the northern Nordid folsk who indo-europeanised Bengalis and Indians why it could not be the Indians or the Western Asians who have done it. By the way the Indo-European theory has many flaws because Early Indo-European scholars thought that all Europeans are superhumans that do descend from the superhero ancient indo-europeans. But todays we know that Indo-Europeanisation was a linguistic process and that many pre indo-european words of the "real" pre indo-european speaking ancestors of actual europeans were zealously counted as indo-european. Please see the criticism of the Indo-European theory by Marcantonio, Fournet and other linguists here below
http://anthrocivitas.net/forum/showthread.php?p=112644#post112644
Humanbyrace (talk) 18:52, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Scythians and Getae
Not to add more ancestry claims on top of what it was added, but there are plenty of historic sources which connect Scythians with the Getae. Some authors believe that Getae have at least a partial ancestry from the Scythians (maybe a Dacian-Scythian mix). Others believe that ancient historians mistaken the Getae from Scythia Minor and Moesia for Scythians. There are also linguistic affinities between Geto-Dacian toponyms and known words and Scythian and Sarmatian languages. The Dacians and Sarmatians were also allies in many instances. Whatever the truth may be, they clearly interacted, at least in Scythia Minor if not on a larger area. I am suggesting a section or paragraph for that.--Codrin.B (talk) 16:12, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Contradiction?
When talking about burials, the article stated that the men and women dressed the same and were buried with the same objects, including axes and other weapons.
Then, the first sentence of the clothing section says that the men and women dressed differently.
Which is true?
68.197.99.184 (talk) 23:29, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
People don't usually walk around in burial clothes. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:27, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Dear mr's and ms's as you know history was misused by the racist white man kokazid imperialistic and racist theories (remember crusades, inquisition, colonisation, ww1, ww2, iraq war, afghanistan war, massacres and deportations of Turks, Uyghurs, Arabs, Chechens, Tatars etc...) Since the kokazawid white man from caves (ie Neanderthalos and Cromagnon) is synonim with evil and destruction.
But the Adamic humans (ie the ones from Adam+Eve hg's + mt DNA F,G,H,R,I,J,K etc...) gave civilization+religion+architecture+alphabet to the world. Why why WHY W H Y bekoz we are from Adam and paradise thus no strange that all nobel prizes are from arabian ashkenaz (iskit) or arabian-mixed cromagnons+neanderatluziiis.
Thus in light of the above you should know that Scythians are Arabian (europe comes from arab=west) Scythians are Arab Scythians are Arab Scythians are Arab Scythians are Arab Scythians are Arab Scythians are Arab Scythians are Arab Do you understand? Do you understand? Do you understand? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THEY ARE ARABS ARABS ARABS ARABS... A-RA-BS SCYTHIANS ARE AR-ABS AND INDO-EUROPEANS ARE ARABS ARABS ARABS ARABS AR-AB-S!
First attestation of Scythians and Indo-European dialect of Arabic speaking Arabs was in Arab Assyrian documents and they are named Ashkuz=strong in Arabic from the root "shkz" as well as their language is Arabic (from the Arabic Canaanite alphabet) as could be seen from the Zelenchuk script please see below
http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/27_Scythians/ZgustaZelenchukEn_files/ZelenchukKafoev's_drawing.gif
It's written: 1ashkuz
2ta=>ashkuzta=schythia
3adhim=great and so on"
THE STAFF BELOW IS FUNNY IS NOT but sadly similar rhetorics are present in this article as well its Turkish and other versions, you should not believe in everything only because it's was written in a book by scholars!
So as long as we dont know 100% the language and the geographic origin of the Scythians (as well as why should a tribe first attested in Assyrian documents be from empty cold and very poorly habitated Steppes origin and not the overcrowded agricultural mesopotamia"
Please study my requests
Have a good work
Yours Hum An By, Castelnegro Campania Italy
Humanbyrace (talk) 12:26, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Dude, saying white people are inherently evil cave men is racist. Just so you know. Take your post, switch "kokazid" with "Arab," and you have the very racism you seem to have a problem with. Hypocrite. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:39, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
I was of course joking :) and of course there is no angel and evil; what I want to say (this time I am serious) that I noticed that some Wikipedia moderators accept to include the claims "they like" as long as they have sources but dont accept to include the claims "they dont like" even when sourced for example when I brought a source saying that the first swastika motif was found in central Iraq and goes back to 6300 bc then some moderators did not include it because how come Iraq has swastika!!! but when there are claims that evil arab and muslims enslaved as much as 1,25 mln Europeans in North Africa they are quickly included and common folk would read this and believe it as well as other claims of the Bernard Luis etc... Come on the whole North-Africa (except Egypt) had a population of 3 mlns and there is no mines or extensive farms to make work as high as 1,25 mln Europeans or sub-saharan Africans despite genetic studies (Y-DNA+mt DNA+autosomal mapping) is unable to find those 1,25 mln European slaves!!! afaik apartheid laws are a product of "white man"(I am not using "white" in the phenotypic sens myself I am blue eyed blonde haired white skinned) in USA and South Africa. Also when speaking about Semitic/Indo-European similarities I was insulted and attacked as they think "how come sub-human arab and semites have a language similar to the one of us the super-human whites" What about Indo-European Bengalis and Pakistanis why it should be the northern Nordid folsk who indo-europeanised Bengalis and Indians why it could not be the Indians or the Western Asians who have done it. By the way the Indo-European theory has many flaws because Early Indo-European scholars thought that all Europeans are superhumans that do descend from the superhero ancient indo-europeans. But todays we know that Indo-Europeanisation was a linguistic process and that many pre indo-european words of the "real" pre indo-european speaking ancestors of actual europeans were zealously counted as indo-european. Please see the criticism of the Indo-European theory by Marcantonio, Fournet and other linguists here below
http://anthrocivitas.net/forum/showthread.php?p=112644#post112644
Humanbyrace (talk) 18:52, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Scythians and Getae
Not to add more ancestry claims on top of what it was added, but there are plenty of historic sources which connect Scythians with the Getae. Some authors believe that Getae have at least a partial ancestry from the Scythians (maybe a Dacian-Scythian mix). Others believe that ancient historians mistaken the Getae from Scythia Minor and Moesia for Scythians. There are also linguistic affinities between Geto-Dacian toponyms and known words and Scythian and Sarmatian languages. The Dacians and Sarmatians were also allies in many instances. Whatever the truth may be, they clearly interacted, at least in Scythia Minor if not on a larger area. I am suggesting a section or paragraph for that.--Codrin.B (talk) 16:12, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Contradiction?
When talking about burials, the article stated that the men and women dressed the same and were buried with the same objects, including axes and other weapons.
Then, the first sentence of the clothing section says that the men and women dressed differently.
Which is true?
68.197.99.184 (talk) 23:29, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
People don't usually walk around in burial clothes. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:27, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/27_Scythians/ZgustaZelenchukEn_files/ZelenchukKafoev's_drawing.gif
15 May 2016 04:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
You should withdraw the troll comment, you've already violated WP:3RR, violating WP:NPA will not help you either. Your version does not yet cite any sources (click here to learn how to cite sources). Ian.thomson (talk) 11:56, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for the invitation to comment. I have only had time to read the entry so far (and adjust it a little for clarity on the way.) There are contradictions within it re origins, which I have not managed to resolve. The Origins section presents two alternatives, one of which is authochthonous development from within the Pontic steppe, while the separate archaeology section dates the Scythian material in the Sayan-Altai area in Central Asia as older than that on the North Pontic area. This latter material needs to be worked into origins, in my view.
The genetic evidence has not been fully explored and linked to the linguistic evidence. Essentially the Andronovo Culture is considered Proto-Indo-Iranian. We have a trail of ancient R1a1a Y-DNA from there across the steppe and in successive cultures to Scythian kurgan burials, the Scythians being classed as Iranian speakers. The Scythians appear to be descendants of that rump of the people of the Andronovo Culture who remained on the steppe after groups departed into what is now Iran and India/Pakistan. They spread east along the steppe, deep into Asia. Then their descendants returned to the Pontic/Caspian region in around the 8th century BC, under pressure from eastern tribes. However I would need to pull sources together to present this case. --Genie (talk) 22:43, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your review of the piece and your work on it thus far, Genie. MarmadukePercy (talk) 22:46, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks ideed, Genie, for your comment. Having "contradictions", ie different alternatives presented, is not a problem. Naturally, academics will have often different interpretations of evidence, especially given that many different groups were called 'Scythians' - frmo eastern Europe to central Asia. This is an inevitable result given that there was no homogeneous people called "Scythians" There were many different Scythian groups. Therefore a single place of origin is naturally not going to be agreed upon. That is why past scholars, taking a narrow 'homeland' approach have failed to end their disagreement Hxseek (talk)
I agree with Genie's edits, and before you go reverting them some more, Hxseek, I think you need to discuss further on the talk page. MarmadukePercy (talk) 01:53, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
-> I think we should split it into written, anthropological and archaeological evidence. As Genie suggested, some of the stuff on dating and archaeology should be incoporated here. IE make it more structured Hxseek (talk) 01:51, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Ahhh... the Debate is not over, and your sources provided are slim and non relevant, so why are you pretending they carry more weight? Don't Personally attack me and act your age when you deal with others here please. Work together and reverting 6 times in one day is not acting appropriately okay?
How come none are providing counters sources on claims of the "Persia" or "Iran" origin sources -wasn't that your contention?? Because the sources provided are sound!
Now, resolve this with BOTH sides, or don't edit. Simply as that. PROVIDE COUNTER SOURCES to your claims that the 5 we provided are faulty (as you claim), Academic ones! Please and Thanks - Work Together and everybody is happy HonestopL 14:53, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Firstly, the majority of "your" sources don't even mention the word Iran. So you've lied and misrepresented. Secondly, Iran barely gets a mention amongst serious scholarship with regard to an, or one of, the original abodes of Scvythians. When mentioned, they all state they later invaded it, just liek Indo-Iranian groups in general.
I do not apologise for reverting POV edits. Hxseek (talk) 21:40, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Regardless of your view of others' edits, this site still has WP:NPA and WP:AGF. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:51, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
This editor is falsifying evidence, and consequently trying to deceive other good-faith editors. This is clearly a lack of respect for others' intelligence. Whilst it seems that you are buying it, I do not feel particularly obliged to show undeserved respect for such behaviour.
Now if you have anything actually cnstructive and intelligent to say regarding the article, which it does not appear you do, then I suggest you stop your disruptive, pseudo well intentioned commentary
Hxseek (talk) 23:54, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
That does it, I'm going to WP:WQA. Ian.thomson (talk) 12:31, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
I'd also like to just point out that Encyclopedia Britannica says for Scythians origin as:"Scythian, member of a nomadic people originally of Iranian stock who migrated from Central Asia to southern Russia in the 8th and 7th centuries bc. " They also say for "Central Asia" that it is "north by Russia and on the south by Iran, Afghanistan". So that's pretty much in sync with what the Encarta Encyclopedia and The Persian Empire: a Corpus of Sources of the Achaemenid Period. Volume 1 says, all 3 are very solid.HonestopL 01:09, 23 October 2010
Thank you for the invitation to comment. I have only had time to read the entry so far (and adjust it a little for clarity on the way.) There are contradictions within it re origins, which I have not managed to resolve. The Origins section presents two alternatives, one of which is authochthonous development from within the Pontic steppe, while the separate archaeology section dates the Scythian material in the Sayan-Altai area in Central Asia as older than that on the North Pontic area. This latter material needs to be worked into origins, in my view.
The genetic evidence has not been fully explored and linked to the linguistic evidence. Essentially the Andronovo Culture is considered Proto-Indo-Iranian. We have a trail of ancient R1a1a Y-DNA from there across the steppe and in successive cultures to Scythian kurgan burials, the Scythians being classed as Iranian speakers. The Scythians appear to be descendants of that rump of the people of the Andronovo Culture who remained on the steppe after groups departed into what is now Iran and India/Pakistan. They spread east along the steppe, deep into Asia. Then their descendants returned to the Pontic/Caspian region in around the 8th century BC, under pressure from eastern tribes. However I would need to pull sources together to present this case. --Genie (talk) 22:43, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your review of the piece and your work on it thus far, Genie. MarmadukePercy (talk) 22:46, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks ideed, Genie, for your comment. Having "contradictions", ie different alternatives presented, is not a problem. Naturally, academics will have often different interpretations of evidence, especially given that many different groups were called 'Scythians' - frmo eastern Europe to central Asia. This is an inevitable result given that there was no homogeneous people called "Scythians" There were many different Scythian groups. Therefore a single place of origin is naturally not going to be agreed upon. That is why past scholars, taking a narrow 'homeland' approach have failed to end their disagreement Hxseek (talk)
I agree with Genie's edits, and before you go reverting them some more, Hxseek, I think you need to discuss further on the talk page. MarmadukePercy (talk) 01:53, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
-> I think we should split it into written, anthropological and archaeological evidence. As Genie suggested, some of the stuff on dating and archaeology should be incoporated here. IE make it more structured Hxseek (talk) 01:51, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Ahhh... the Debate is not over, and your sources provided are slim and non relevant, so why are you pretending they carry more weight? Don't Personally attack me and act your age when you deal with others here please. Work together and reverting 6 times in one day is not acting appropriately okay?
How come none are providing counters sources on claims of the "Persia" or "Iran" origin sources -wasn't that your contention?? Because the sources provided are sound!
Now, resolve this with BOTH sides, or don't edit. Simply as that. PROVIDE COUNTER SOURCES to your claims that the 5 we provided are faulty (as you claim), Academic ones! Please and Thanks - Work Together and everybody is happy HonestopL 14:53, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Firstly, the majority of "your" sources don't even mention the word Iran. So you've lied and misrepresented. Secondly, Iran barely gets a mention amongst serious scholarship with regard to an, or one of, the original abodes of Scvythians. When mentioned, they all state they later invaded it, just liek Indo-Iranian groups in general.
I do not apologise for reverting POV edits. Hxseek (talk) 21:40, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Regardless of your view of others' edits, this site still has WP:NPA and WP:AGF. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:51, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
This editor is falsifying evidence, and consequently trying to deceive other good-faith editors. This is clearly a lack of respect for others' intelligence. Whilst it seems that you are buying it, I do not feel particularly obliged to show undeserved respect for such behaviour.
Now if you have anything actually cnstructive and intelligent to say regarding the article, which it does not appear you do, then I suggest you stop your disruptive, pseudo well intentioned commentary
Hxseek (talk) 23:54, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
That does it, I'm going to WP:WQA. Ian.thomson (talk) 12:31, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
I'd also like to just point out that Encyclopedia Britannica says for Scythians origin as:"Scythian, member of a nomadic people originally of Iranian stock who migrated from Central Asia to southern Russia in the 8th and 7th centuries bc. " They also say for "Central Asia" that it is "north by Russia and on the south by Iran, Afghanistan". So that's pretty much in sync with what the Encarta Encyclopedia and The Persian Empire: a Corpus of Sources of the Achaemenid Period. Volume 1 says, all 3 are very solid.HonestopL 01:09, 23 October 2010
15 May 2016 04:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hold it, fellas
I am considering protecting this article but there are other venues to go down first. Can I suggest for instance a Request for Comment? See WP:RfC. I'd like to see this dispute settled without bloodshed, please. And without anymore personal attacks. Dougweller (talk) 05:17, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Agree. Perhaps by moving it to Rfc, it would take out some of the personal attacks and better reframe this debate intellectually. It's a complicated topic that deserves an in-depth discussion. MarmadukePercy (talk) 05:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
I believe this piece definitely needs an RFC. In particular I find the ongoing edits -- including removal of comments by other editors on the talk page -- by editor Hxseek, in addition to failure to seek any consensus before continuing to proceed editing, extremely problematic, as well as disrespectful of other editors here. MarmadukePercy (talk) 11:32, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
This bit of gloating, combined with his refusal to withdraw calling HonestopL a troll, doesn't really serve any civil purpose. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:23, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
I think that this editor "HonestopL" is a troll. Not only are his edits academically weak, but he is outright misrepresenting sources. This is a serious breach of ethics, and I really suggest other users take note of it.
(1) He insists on stating that the Scythians came from "Greater Iran". As I have stated, this is a vague, imprecise, and some what loaded term. Agree/ Disagree ?
(2) Not only that, he does not wish to allow the inclusion of other proposed geographic regions, which are actually (more) supported by reputable sources.
(3) Most importantly, he has used sources which are of doubtful quality, and moreover, misrepresented them. Case in point:
He has cited Scandinavian Influences in Englsih ROmantic movement. What does this have to do with Scythians ? ?
The only thing is states about Scythians is Scythians originated in "Central Asia. A very vague term, hardly a detailed look at the issues. There are tons of very good works which look into details. And nowhere does it use the term "greater Iran"
" Book "Persian Empire: a corpus of sources..." This states The Sacae are the Scythians, in this instance the Scythians of Central Asia, who always lived on the margins and beyond the frontiers of the Achaemenid empire .... Where is this Greater Iran other than his own POV ?
This infers specifically to the Sakae, not all Scythians. This is dealt with on a different article !
His other sources include: Ancient Communities of the Himalaya and The Origin of the English, Germanic, and Scandinavian Languages, and Nations.
Does anyone think I am incorrect or rash to doubt the quality and real relevance of these sources, especially given that I have brought forward much better works (see above) ?
In contrast, my version clearly states that the origins are still debated, and moreoever, there were many different "Scythian" groups, and therefore cannot expect a single, magical place of origin- as highlighted in valid sources. Is this not a more appropriate and academically sound approach ?
Hxseek (talk) 08:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
I am considering protecting this article but there are other venues to go down first. Can I suggest for instance a Request for Comment? See WP:RfC. I'd like to see this dispute settled without bloodshed, please. And without anymore personal attacks. Dougweller (talk) 05:17, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Agree. Perhaps by moving it to Rfc, it would take out some of the personal attacks and better reframe this debate intellectually. It's a complicated topic that deserves an in-depth discussion. MarmadukePercy (talk) 05:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
I believe this piece definitely needs an RFC. In particular I find the ongoing edits -- including removal of comments by other editors on the talk page -- by editor Hxseek, in addition to failure to seek any consensus before continuing to proceed editing, extremely problematic, as well as disrespectful of other editors here. MarmadukePercy (talk) 11:32, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
This bit of gloating, combined with his refusal to withdraw calling HonestopL a troll, doesn't really serve any civil purpose. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:23, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
I think that this editor "HonestopL" is a troll. Not only are his edits academically weak, but he is outright misrepresenting sources. This is a serious breach of ethics, and I really suggest other users take note of it.
(1) He insists on stating that the Scythians came from "Greater Iran". As I have stated, this is a vague, imprecise, and some what loaded term. Agree/ Disagree ?
(2) Not only that, he does not wish to allow the inclusion of other proposed geographic regions, which are actually (more) supported by reputable sources.
(3) Most importantly, he has used sources which are of doubtful quality, and moreover, misrepresented them. Case in point:
He has cited Scandinavian Influences in Englsih ROmantic movement. What does this have to do with Scythians ? ?
The only thing is states about Scythians is Scythians originated in "Central Asia. A very vague term, hardly a detailed look at the issues. There are tons of very good works which look into details. And nowhere does it use the term "greater Iran"
" Book "Persian Empire: a corpus of sources..." This states The Sacae are the Scythians, in this instance the Scythians of Central Asia, who always lived on the margins and beyond the frontiers of the Achaemenid empire .... Where is this Greater Iran other than his own POV ?
This infers specifically to the Sakae, not all Scythians. This is dealt with on a different article !
His other sources include: Ancient Communities of the Himalaya and The Origin of the English, Germanic, and Scandinavian Languages, and Nations.
Does anyone think I am incorrect or rash to doubt the quality and real relevance of these sources, especially given that I have brought forward much better works (see above) ?
In contrast, my version clearly states that the origins are still debated, and moreoever, there were many different "Scythian" groups, and therefore cannot expect a single, magical place of origin- as highlighted in valid sources. Is this not a more appropriate and academically sound approach ?
Hxseek (talk) 08:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Origins
The classification of Scythian suggests that the culture dissimilated from the western Iranian on the east of the Iranian group range (Greater Iran), in Central Asia.[13] They must have been coming from there when they occupied sites of early India to their south.[14] As a branch of the ancient Iranian peoples they would have expanded westward into the Pontic steppe after that region was vacated by the western Iranians (Medes and Persians) at some unknown prehistoric time approximated by a conventional date of 1000 BC.[15][16][17]
This is B.S. You cannot just include one perspective. And, the source cited in support is some book about the Persian Empire -hardly a detailed look at Scythians themsleves. Anyone who has read any real literature on the Scythians would know that extensive debate since the 19th century until continues as to their origins.
This sounds like weasal work, and should will be reverted. Hxseek (talk) 07:26, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Do you have any sources actually countering the existing ones? Or for the edits you're attempting to make? The best course of action would be to reflect all available sources and views. One of the many sources is about Persia, but not specifically the empire, and it would be a decent source for cultures possibly influenced by Iranian cultures. Ian.thomson (talk) 17:30, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
"Persia" is inaccurate. We should be using accurate geographic terms when possible - not "greater Iran" . Sounds like nationalistic forum stuff rather than serious encyclopedic article. the sources actually mentioned mostly propose either a Black Sea origin, ro western Siberia/ Turkestan. No one says the Iranian plateau. il go throught them however, and see what others are worht serious consideration for inclusion Hxseek (talk) 23:43, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Again, do you have sources to cite to support any of the drastic changes you're making? Ian.thomson (talk) 23:59, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Hxseek, if you go through the sources provided you will see they have well-published credentials, and refer the Scythian origins from either "Persia" or "Iran" (1 says both also), and in the Encarta Encyclopedia reference (1997-2009) says "Iran".
Where as you are providing your own point of view, with no sources? Not reliable. You have different users here asking for your supporting sources in reference to your counter argument(s), please provide them here, would be helpful. Thank you! HonestopL 23:09, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Dear fellows, let me start by declaring that I have no personal issue with things "Iranic". However, on an acedmic level, the are several problems with the version being defended by HonestopL and I Thmopson :
(1) It starts off with The Scythians are thought to have originated from the region of Greater Iran and As a branch of the ancient Iranian peoples, it is thought they expanded into the steppe regions by 1000 BC
This is makes an otherwise complicated and still debated issue appear that there is unanimous agreement as to where Scythinas originated. The second sentence following is plain wrong. Iranic peoples spread from the steppe to Iran, not vice-versa. If you disagree with this, then you're disagreeing with the large corpus of linguists and archaeologists
(2) The term Greater Iran has better alternatives. For a start, it has political, nationalistic connotations. This is not a persoanl issue for me (for I am not from 'that area"). It is both anachronistic and unspecific. Surely, we can come with more accurate regional designations
(3) WP:Undue weight. Let's look at the sources, as well as the heirarchy of sources. Let's look at some devoted sources which consider the issue in detail.
Cambridge History of early Inner Asia - D Sinor : claims a Srubnaya origin (ie Black Sea). Page 99
A History of Russia, Cenral Asia and Mongolia - speaks of widespread Scythian culture throughout various regions . No bold statements about Scythians originating ion "Greater Iran".
The Empire of the steppe - Grousset. localizes it to Turkestan and western Siberia. "Greater Iran", anyone ?
Nomads of the Eurasian steppe in the early Iron Age. PaGE 31- complex issues, but suggests local origin with some evidence of eastern contribution, the exact location and degree of which is unclear. Page 31
Arguably, 4 of the most authoritative, detailed and recent books on the issue.
Let's look at ths sources in support of "Greater Iran"
The Persian Empire: a Corpus of Sources of the Achaemenid Period - very generalist, and not really focussing on nomads
Scandinavian Influences in the English Romantic Movement. I;m not even going to comment on this one ! !
Ancient Communities of the Himalaya; - Again, impotent
The Origin of the English, Germanic, and Scandinavian Languages, and Nations - Insipirational ! !! Wow .
MSN Encarta - Scythians, Microsoft Encarta Online Encyclopedia 2009 I stopped reading this when I was 12.
Plus I querie if they even all say "Greater Iran"
The quality of discussion and analytical degree betweeen the former and latter sources is quite obvious. I could go on and on. I trust there will be no further arguements.. Thanks chaps.
Hxseek (talk) 02:15, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
You're throwing a lot of "he said, she said..." you need supporting sources to prove what your saying is actually supported, and not made up! Wikipidia is not the place for un-sourced opinion over scholarly research.
You are just going through the sources saying things like "Insipirational ! !! Wow." and "I stopped reading this when I was 12". And that's your proof?!... And to top it off you add your own Point-Of-View theory (as Fact) with nothing?
It's really not up to you to make judgments on the credentials of Encyclopedia's, whether it's Britannica or Encarta. Dr. Maria Brosius, who was the contributor for the Scythian article in the (MSN) Encarta Encyclopedia (1997-2009), IS an Expert in the History of Ancient Persia, and ancient Greek History.
She is a professor at the University of Newcastle. She teaches it, researches it, and publishes in these specific fields. She got her D.Phil from the University of Oxford, and was awarded a Postdoctoral Fellowship of the British Academy, and then held a three-year lectureship at Queen's College, Oxford (meaning she was a professor at Oxford University as well). She was also awarded a two-year Leverhulme Major Research Fellowship for 2005-2007, part of which she spent as a Visiting Scholar at Wolfson College, Oxford.
So, what I'm trying to say is... we have a Scholar, who has a Doctorate from Oxford University, has also taught there, received major award(s), fellowships etc., specializes in the Ancient History of Persia, teaches it, researches it and publishes it, and wrote for the Scythian article for the MSN Encarta Encyclopedia and published:
"Scythians, groups of nomads that originated in Iran and inhabited the Eurasian steppes in the 1st millennium BC ..." Feel this has a stronger case. Thank you! HonestopL 02:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
No. The sources I provided are quite clear. See them for yourself. A multi-hundred page work on Eurasian nomads is obviuosly better than an Encarta article. the articles you have provided are generalist. They did not even go into discussing the issue, but merely mention something on the Scythians in passing.
Can you please explain how you think your book on Scandinavian influences on English Romanticism is a specialist book dealing with Scythians, contra to mine ? Even if we accept the encarta article, that still does not represent a majority of opinion, not even a peripheral one. You're bias is so twisted that you somehow make this the main and only theory. Please see WP:UNDUE. Failure to abide by the will result in you being reported
The classification of Scythian suggests that the culture dissimilated from the western Iranian on the east of the Iranian group range (Greater Iran), in Central Asia.[13] They must have been coming from there when they occupied sites of early India to their south.[14] As a branch of the ancient Iranian peoples they would have expanded westward into the Pontic steppe after that region was vacated by the western Iranians (Medes and Persians) at some unknown prehistoric time approximated by a conventional date of 1000 BC.[15][16][17]
This is B.S. You cannot just include one perspective. And, the source cited in support is some book about the Persian Empire -hardly a detailed look at Scythians themsleves. Anyone who has read any real literature on the Scythians would know that extensive debate since the 19th century until continues as to their origins.
This sounds like weasal work, and should will be reverted. Hxseek (talk) 07:26, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Do you have any sources actually countering the existing ones? Or for the edits you're attempting to make? The best course of action would be to reflect all available sources and views. One of the many sources is about Persia, but not specifically the empire, and it would be a decent source for cultures possibly influenced by Iranian cultures. Ian.thomson (talk) 17:30, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
"Persia" is inaccurate. We should be using accurate geographic terms when possible - not "greater Iran" . Sounds like nationalistic forum stuff rather than serious encyclopedic article. the sources actually mentioned mostly propose either a Black Sea origin, ro western Siberia/ Turkestan. No one says the Iranian plateau. il go throught them however, and see what others are worht serious consideration for inclusion Hxseek (talk) 23:43, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Again, do you have sources to cite to support any of the drastic changes you're making? Ian.thomson (talk) 23:59, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Hxseek, if you go through the sources provided you will see they have well-published credentials, and refer the Scythian origins from either "Persia" or "Iran" (1 says both also), and in the Encarta Encyclopedia reference (1997-2009) says "Iran".
Where as you are providing your own point of view, with no sources? Not reliable. You have different users here asking for your supporting sources in reference to your counter argument(s), please provide them here, would be helpful. Thank you! HonestopL 23:09, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Dear fellows, let me start by declaring that I have no personal issue with things "Iranic". However, on an acedmic level, the are several problems with the version being defended by HonestopL and I Thmopson :
(1) It starts off with The Scythians are thought to have originated from the region of Greater Iran and As a branch of the ancient Iranian peoples, it is thought they expanded into the steppe regions by 1000 BC
This is makes an otherwise complicated and still debated issue appear that there is unanimous agreement as to where Scythinas originated. The second sentence following is plain wrong. Iranic peoples spread from the steppe to Iran, not vice-versa. If you disagree with this, then you're disagreeing with the large corpus of linguists and archaeologists
(2) The term Greater Iran has better alternatives. For a start, it has political, nationalistic connotations. This is not a persoanl issue for me (for I am not from 'that area"). It is both anachronistic and unspecific. Surely, we can come with more accurate regional designations
(3) WP:Undue weight. Let's look at the sources, as well as the heirarchy of sources. Let's look at some devoted sources which consider the issue in detail.
Cambridge History of early Inner Asia - D Sinor : claims a Srubnaya origin (ie Black Sea). Page 99
A History of Russia, Cenral Asia and Mongolia - speaks of widespread Scythian culture throughout various regions . No bold statements about Scythians originating ion "Greater Iran".
The Empire of the steppe - Grousset. localizes it to Turkestan and western Siberia. "Greater Iran", anyone ?
Nomads of the Eurasian steppe in the early Iron Age. PaGE 31- complex issues, but suggests local origin with some evidence of eastern contribution, the exact location and degree of which is unclear. Page 31
Arguably, 4 of the most authoritative, detailed and recent books on the issue.
Let's look at ths sources in support of "Greater Iran"
The Persian Empire: a Corpus of Sources of the Achaemenid Period - very generalist, and not really focussing on nomads
Scandinavian Influences in the English Romantic Movement. I;m not even going to comment on this one ! !
Ancient Communities of the Himalaya; - Again, impotent
The Origin of the English, Germanic, and Scandinavian Languages, and Nations - Insipirational ! !! Wow .
MSN Encarta - Scythians, Microsoft Encarta Online Encyclopedia 2009 I stopped reading this when I was 12.
Plus I querie if they even all say "Greater Iran"
The quality of discussion and analytical degree betweeen the former and latter sources is quite obvious. I could go on and on. I trust there will be no further arguements.. Thanks chaps.
Hxseek (talk) 02:15, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
You're throwing a lot of "he said, she said..." you need supporting sources to prove what your saying is actually supported, and not made up! Wikipidia is not the place for un-sourced opinion over scholarly research.
You are just going through the sources saying things like "Insipirational ! !! Wow." and "I stopped reading this when I was 12". And that's your proof?!... And to top it off you add your own Point-Of-View theory (as Fact) with nothing?
It's really not up to you to make judgments on the credentials of Encyclopedia's, whether it's Britannica or Encarta. Dr. Maria Brosius, who was the contributor for the Scythian article in the (MSN) Encarta Encyclopedia (1997-2009), IS an Expert in the History of Ancient Persia, and ancient Greek History.
She is a professor at the University of Newcastle. She teaches it, researches it, and publishes in these specific fields. She got her D.Phil from the University of Oxford, and was awarded a Postdoctoral Fellowship of the British Academy, and then held a three-year lectureship at Queen's College, Oxford (meaning she was a professor at Oxford University as well). She was also awarded a two-year Leverhulme Major Research Fellowship for 2005-2007, part of which she spent as a Visiting Scholar at Wolfson College, Oxford.
So, what I'm trying to say is... we have a Scholar, who has a Doctorate from Oxford University, has also taught there, received major award(s), fellowships etc., specializes in the Ancient History of Persia, teaches it, researches it and publishes it, and wrote for the Scythian article for the MSN Encarta Encyclopedia and published:
"Scythians, groups of nomads that originated in Iran and inhabited the Eurasian steppes in the 1st millennium BC ..." Feel this has a stronger case. Thank you! HonestopL 02:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
No. The sources I provided are quite clear. See them for yourself. A multi-hundred page work on Eurasian nomads is obviuosly better than an Encarta article. the articles you have provided are generalist. They did not even go into discussing the issue, but merely mention something on the Scythians in passing.
Can you please explain how you think your book on Scandinavian influences on English Romanticism is a specialist book dealing with Scythians, contra to mine ? Even if we accept the encarta article, that still does not represent a majority of opinion, not even a peripheral one. You're bias is so twisted that you somehow make this the main and only theory. Please see WP:UNDUE. Failure to abide by the will result in you being reported
15 May 2016 04:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Harvard ref system
Many of the notes feature a book noted elsewhere with a different page number. This situation calls for the harvard ref. It features a bibliography listing the books ref'd with multiple page numbers. I did the initial set-up. Books not ref'd in the Bibliography would remain in additional reading.Dave (talk) 02:16, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Cambridge History
This chapter was put online by Azargoshnap for free. Cambridge Histories Online has it in a subscription site. The book is dated 1985. I do not know if the Azargoshnap publication is legal.Dave (talk) 02:35, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Origins and prehistory to 700
This section is a bit of a problem. There is some text and there are some sources. The sources generally do not contain any page numbers; moreoever, one note is actually a list of unpaged sources. They do not seem to fit the text. The text is a bit disorganized; it seems to have grown by accumulation of statements by different editors. There was perhaps some edit controversy before the whole thing was just abandoned. There is also a mixture of some modern and some Biblical ideas without any transitions or flow. On the whole they are all on the same theme: the origin of the Scyths. Since that is so it seems that moving pieces around like a jigsaw puzzle might result in a referenced coherent text. I think I will try that. On the notes, each source should have its own note. Also, care should be taken to give the page numbers and to place the note after the text one is trying to substantiate. I think we want to avoid having strings of references on single sentences in some places and nothing on statements in others; however, notes have to fit text and the text and note have to be coherent. The refs are good; one just has to get them to fit. This analysis is longer than the whole section; maybe some expansion is in order. I will be on this for a bit.Dave (talk) 09:47, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
The two etymology sections
Apparently there are two etymology sections. Well, it is difficult to try and fit this huge topic into one article and also considering that it is a Biblical topic the degree of emotion concerning it is not surprising either. All the previous editors seem to have worn themselves out on it so maybe this lull, to to speak, is the time to try to organize it coherently. I am merging the two etymologies. The best place for language seems at the top, as language is an important part of ethnic identification.Dave (talk) 10:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Many of the notes feature a book noted elsewhere with a different page number. This situation calls for the harvard ref. It features a bibliography listing the books ref'd with multiple page numbers. I did the initial set-up. Books not ref'd in the Bibliography would remain in additional reading.Dave (talk) 02:16, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Cambridge History
This chapter was put online by Azargoshnap for free. Cambridge Histories Online has it in a subscription site. The book is dated 1985. I do not know if the Azargoshnap publication is legal.Dave (talk) 02:35, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Origins and prehistory to 700
This section is a bit of a problem. There is some text and there are some sources. The sources generally do not contain any page numbers; moreoever, one note is actually a list of unpaged sources. They do not seem to fit the text. The text is a bit disorganized; it seems to have grown by accumulation of statements by different editors. There was perhaps some edit controversy before the whole thing was just abandoned. There is also a mixture of some modern and some Biblical ideas without any transitions or flow. On the whole they are all on the same theme: the origin of the Scyths. Since that is so it seems that moving pieces around like a jigsaw puzzle might result in a referenced coherent text. I think I will try that. On the notes, each source should have its own note. Also, care should be taken to give the page numbers and to place the note after the text one is trying to substantiate. I think we want to avoid having strings of references on single sentences in some places and nothing on statements in others; however, notes have to fit text and the text and note have to be coherent. The refs are good; one just has to get them to fit. This analysis is longer than the whole section; maybe some expansion is in order. I will be on this for a bit.Dave (talk) 09:47, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
The two etymology sections
Apparently there are two etymology sections. Well, it is difficult to try and fit this huge topic into one article and also considering that it is a Biblical topic the degree of emotion concerning it is not surprising either. All the previous editors seem to have worn themselves out on it so maybe this lull, to to speak, is the time to try to organize it coherently. I am merging the two etymologies. The best place for language seems at the top, as language is an important part of ethnic identification.Dave (talk) 10:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Scythians
Current Addition discussions about the origins of the Scythian are on-going aswell here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ian.thomson#Hmmmm . Jewels034(talk 22:33, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Don't bother, the page is blank. The user cleared it off. Frankly I'm just as happy. As far as I can see this is yet another article of more discussion than article. For the standard, mainstream origin of the Skyths I have made a brief statement below. They come charging out of pre-history, you know. There are numerous books on it. Dave (talk) 03:53, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
BC vs BCE
It appears as though I am doing some clean-up - what an interesting article. The convention is, either BC or BCE, whichever was first. Since the whole article is mainly BC I'm assuming it is a BC article and am changing the BCE. If I'm wrong, fix it (makes no diff to me). I see many of you use bots to do that. Should be no problem if necessary.Dave (talk) 11:54, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Possible 2-col?
Many articles I've seen with this number of notes are 2-col for the notes. There are 2 ways to do it, one for plain vanilla browsers and one for Mozilla. In the latter you add a parameter to the ref list. This way does not affect the vanilla browser. The other way sets it up with commands. I sort of like the Mozilla arrangement, but what do you think of 2-col for this?Dave (talk) 12:15, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Intro
The intro contains a number of good refs that do not fit what is being said. My take is that an originally more lengthy text was condensed, perhaps by subsequent editors, leaving the refs. I sure am not going to delete those excellent refs. So, the answer seems to be to make them fit. I can do that by adding phrases or small sentences. This works because the refs are on the topic if not on the subject after which the note number has been placed. Sometimes if you are going to say something you have to say it. Condensation only works up to a point.Dave (talk) 12:55, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Greater Iran and Persia
One sentence appears to be slightly misleading, I think. It refers to greater Iran (Persia). According to our articles on those, which appear to be excellent and correct, they are not exactly the same. Persia is the political entity descending to today's Iran. It is named after the Fars tribe, which moved from some unknown place called Arya into the region it now occupies. Then it built a sequence of empires. Greater Iran refers to the entire steppe and mountainous area from beyond the Altai to north of the Caspian. Most of that in historical times was never under the Fars even as an empire. And yet, it was Iranian. Even today, you find pockets of Iranian speakers in it, who were never of the Fars. Our article here implies Central Asia was in Persia and that the Persians expanded from there. A series of refs are given. I'm looking at page 44 of the first ref and it says no such thing. I will quote what it does say. A second issue is that at least in this ref it is the eastern Iranians, the Saka, that originate in Central Asia. I am sure this sentence can be made right by not implying that Iranians=Farsi or that Saka=all Scythians or that Central Asia is further south than it is. South of Central Asia is the Central Asian subcontinent, not Iran. But, before I alter anything I want to make sure of the refs. If what I say is still warranted then I will only make the minimum alterations.Dave (talk) 18:36, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
More. Hm. We are using the Linguist List for language classification throughout WP. In the articles about specific languages and language groups their data is referenced by clicking on the ISO code in the box. That goes to the Linguist List database. Now, Scythian is eastern but Farsi is western. So, that lets out any identification of Greater Iran with the Fars (Persians). In inscriptions where the Saka are mentioned they are never parts of Fars, always provinces, but no province ever captured them all. Maybe the Saka did come from central Asia. I know one of the sources in the intro suggests that they came from the Altai region. Central Asia is the northern plains (and mountains) so they can't migrate from Central Asia to the plains, as they are already on them in Central Asia. But, I will finish these references.Dave (talk) 23:10, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Frank Edgar Farley's Book
Farley, Frank Edgar (2009) Scandinavian Influences in the English Romantic Movement; p. 197
First, the 2009 date is deceptive. This is a reprint of a 1903 book. Second, Farley leans heavily on John Pinkerton, publishing in 1787, whom he considers the first scientific student of the Scythians. Not by modern standards. Pinkerton's view is that the Scythians came from Persia and that the Scandinavians and Germans are descended from them If that is so then the Scythians cannot have spoken East Iranian. Pinkerton also held that the Sarmations were Slavonic. If so, they cannot have spoken Iranian either. These early theories on the Scyths predate all modern scholarship. You can't mix centuries on this; the differences are too great. So, I took this out.Dave (talk) 00:11, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Bosworth's book
Bosworth, Joseph (1848) The Origin of the English, Germanic, and Scandinavian Languages, and Nations; p. 204
The date of the book is 1848, again preceding by far all evidence used today whether linguistic or archaeological. Bosworth presents the Tower of Babel theory. All the peoples of all the Earth were located in Mesopotamia. When they attempted to ascend to heaven by building a tower, God confused their speech, creating all known languages. The people then moved outward from Mesopotamia as on the spokes of a wheel. Bosworth views Iranian as the original language. From it came Scythian, which gave rise to the languages of Europe. Before you draw your own conclusions I have to caution you that this view is held by Judaeo-Christian fundamentalists whether Christian or Jewish and is taught in many theological seminaries of either brand. Here, I do not see how we can have it both ways. If we are presenting modern scholarship we cannot consistently present the fundamentalist view as though it were the same practically in the same breath. I leave it to you to decide what religion you want to follow if any and similarly the resolution of any of these issues. WP is using modern scholarship. So, I'm taking this out. To use it would require a considerable rewrite unless you would prefer to have paradoxical and contradictory articles to satisfy some ideological, political or commercial requirement.Dave (talk) 12:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Encarta gone missing now
MSN Encarta - Scythians, Microsoft Encarta Online Encyclopedia 2009, Contributed By: Maria Brosius, D.Phil, 1997–2009, 2009-09-30
Microsoft stopped offering Encarta in 2009 and is only going to support the ones they sold to 2012. So, you can't find or won't be finding the online articles you formerly did. I used to have it myself. Great maps. But, now we have a number of map sites and encyclopedic sites. Of the 5 notes originally sequenced I updated and left two. All we were trying to do is say that the Scyths were undoubtedly from Central Asia. Five notes on one sentence seems a bit of overkill. The notes I kept do that adequately. In addition the notes of the intro also make the point; in fact, we should probably expand a little on the Altai Mountain theory, which is that the Scyths found enough isolation in the mountains to form a distinctive culture.Dave (talk) 13:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Current Addition discussions about the origins of the Scythian are on-going aswell here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ian.thomson#Hmmmm . Jewels034(talk 22:33, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Don't bother, the page is blank. The user cleared it off. Frankly I'm just as happy. As far as I can see this is yet another article of more discussion than article. For the standard, mainstream origin of the Skyths I have made a brief statement below. They come charging out of pre-history, you know. There are numerous books on it. Dave (talk) 03:53, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
BC vs BCE
It appears as though I am doing some clean-up - what an interesting article. The convention is, either BC or BCE, whichever was first. Since the whole article is mainly BC I'm assuming it is a BC article and am changing the BCE. If I'm wrong, fix it (makes no diff to me). I see many of you use bots to do that. Should be no problem if necessary.Dave (talk) 11:54, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Possible 2-col?
Many articles I've seen with this number of notes are 2-col for the notes. There are 2 ways to do it, one for plain vanilla browsers and one for Mozilla. In the latter you add a parameter to the ref list. This way does not affect the vanilla browser. The other way sets it up with commands. I sort of like the Mozilla arrangement, but what do you think of 2-col for this?Dave (talk) 12:15, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Intro
The intro contains a number of good refs that do not fit what is being said. My take is that an originally more lengthy text was condensed, perhaps by subsequent editors, leaving the refs. I sure am not going to delete those excellent refs. So, the answer seems to be to make them fit. I can do that by adding phrases or small sentences. This works because the refs are on the topic if not on the subject after which the note number has been placed. Sometimes if you are going to say something you have to say it. Condensation only works up to a point.Dave (talk) 12:55, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Greater Iran and Persia
One sentence appears to be slightly misleading, I think. It refers to greater Iran (Persia). According to our articles on those, which appear to be excellent and correct, they are not exactly the same. Persia is the political entity descending to today's Iran. It is named after the Fars tribe, which moved from some unknown place called Arya into the region it now occupies. Then it built a sequence of empires. Greater Iran refers to the entire steppe and mountainous area from beyond the Altai to north of the Caspian. Most of that in historical times was never under the Fars even as an empire. And yet, it was Iranian. Even today, you find pockets of Iranian speakers in it, who were never of the Fars. Our article here implies Central Asia was in Persia and that the Persians expanded from there. A series of refs are given. I'm looking at page 44 of the first ref and it says no such thing. I will quote what it does say. A second issue is that at least in this ref it is the eastern Iranians, the Saka, that originate in Central Asia. I am sure this sentence can be made right by not implying that Iranians=Farsi or that Saka=all Scythians or that Central Asia is further south than it is. South of Central Asia is the Central Asian subcontinent, not Iran. But, before I alter anything I want to make sure of the refs. If what I say is still warranted then I will only make the minimum alterations.Dave (talk) 18:36, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
More. Hm. We are using the Linguist List for language classification throughout WP. In the articles about specific languages and language groups their data is referenced by clicking on the ISO code in the box. That goes to the Linguist List database. Now, Scythian is eastern but Farsi is western. So, that lets out any identification of Greater Iran with the Fars (Persians). In inscriptions where the Saka are mentioned they are never parts of Fars, always provinces, but no province ever captured them all. Maybe the Saka did come from central Asia. I know one of the sources in the intro suggests that they came from the Altai region. Central Asia is the northern plains (and mountains) so they can't migrate from Central Asia to the plains, as they are already on them in Central Asia. But, I will finish these references.Dave (talk) 23:10, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Frank Edgar Farley's Book
Farley, Frank Edgar (2009) Scandinavian Influences in the English Romantic Movement; p. 197
First, the 2009 date is deceptive. This is a reprint of a 1903 book. Second, Farley leans heavily on John Pinkerton, publishing in 1787, whom he considers the first scientific student of the Scythians. Not by modern standards. Pinkerton's view is that the Scythians came from Persia and that the Scandinavians and Germans are descended from them If that is so then the Scythians cannot have spoken East Iranian. Pinkerton also held that the Sarmations were Slavonic. If so, they cannot have spoken Iranian either. These early theories on the Scyths predate all modern scholarship. You can't mix centuries on this; the differences are too great. So, I took this out.Dave (talk) 00:11, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Bosworth's book
Bosworth, Joseph (1848) The Origin of the English, Germanic, and Scandinavian Languages, and Nations; p. 204
The date of the book is 1848, again preceding by far all evidence used today whether linguistic or archaeological. Bosworth presents the Tower of Babel theory. All the peoples of all the Earth were located in Mesopotamia. When they attempted to ascend to heaven by building a tower, God confused their speech, creating all known languages. The people then moved outward from Mesopotamia as on the spokes of a wheel. Bosworth views Iranian as the original language. From it came Scythian, which gave rise to the languages of Europe. Before you draw your own conclusions I have to caution you that this view is held by Judaeo-Christian fundamentalists whether Christian or Jewish and is taught in many theological seminaries of either brand. Here, I do not see how we can have it both ways. If we are presenting modern scholarship we cannot consistently present the fundamentalist view as though it were the same practically in the same breath. I leave it to you to decide what religion you want to follow if any and similarly the resolution of any of these issues. WP is using modern scholarship. So, I'm taking this out. To use it would require a considerable rewrite unless you would prefer to have paradoxical and contradictory articles to satisfy some ideological, political or commercial requirement.Dave (talk) 12:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Encarta gone missing now
MSN Encarta - Scythians, Microsoft Encarta Online Encyclopedia 2009, Contributed By: Maria Brosius, D.Phil, 1997–2009, 2009-09-30
Microsoft stopped offering Encarta in 2009 and is only going to support the ones they sold to 2012. So, you can't find or won't be finding the online articles you formerly did. I used to have it myself. Great maps. But, now we have a number of map sites and encyclopedic sites. Of the 5 notes originally sequenced I updated and left two. All we were trying to do is say that the Scyths were undoubtedly from Central Asia. Five notes on one sentence seems a bit of overkill. The notes I kept do that adequately. In addition the notes of the intro also make the point; in fact, we should probably expand a little on the Altai Mountain theory, which is that the Scyths found enough isolation in the mountains to form a distinctive culture.Dave (talk) 13:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ian.thomson#Hmmmm
15 May 2016 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Does anyone else feel this source is unreliable?
<ref>Metcalfe, Samuel Lytler , ed.(1859) "Caloric: its mechanical, chemical and vital agencies in the phenomena of nature"; p. 52</ref> was recently added in. I've removed it, and after discussion with the editor that placed it in, I would like to see if anyone else thinks this source is unreliable. At the very least, it's not properly cited, since page 52 of volume I of Metcalfe's work does not mention the Scythians at all. I assumed that the wrong page number was put in, and searched through the rest of the book (both volumes) for all mentions of Scythia. Volume 2 does mention that the Scythians as having come from Iran and North India, but as part of espousing Godfrey Higgins's belief that humanity originated in South Asia (see [1] and [2]).
Metcalfe does not repudiate Higgins's claims, but affirms them. Modern scholarship holds that humanity came out of Africa, not out of India. Since Caloric advocates a fringe theory, and is not peer-reviewed, it does not qualify as a reliable source. It is a questionable source, and questionable sources can only be used sources of material on themselves according to the guidelines.
TL;DR: Metcalfe's book Caloric makes claims about the origin of humanity that are not supported by modern scholarship, claims based on the works of Godfrey Higgins, whose claims that are repudiated by modern scholarship. I am not disagreeing that the Scythians come from Iran/North India, that part isn't an issue. Caloric states that humanity originated in Asia. That goes against modern scholarship, that makes the book a questionable source, which means that it should not be treated as a reliable one. Ian.thomson (talk) 00:02, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
To state for the record
Quote: Samuel Lytler (M.D),ed.(1859) "Caloric: its mechanical, chemical and vital agencies in the phenomena of nature" (p.52) “....were in fact Scythians, that came originally from the north of India and Persia”
http://books.google.ca/books?id=oUIIAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false
(1) This book was written in 1843 and 1859. DNA studies only recently in the last 10 years have confirmed that we all come out Africa. But in the 1700-1800's even up until the early 1930's there was several competing theories of the origins of mankind.
Human Evolution article: Wikipedia
"Carolus Linnaeus and other scientists of his time also considered the great apes to be the closest relatives of humans due to morphological and anatomical similarities. The possibility of linking humans with earlier apes by descent only became clear after 1859 with the publication of Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species. This argued for the idea of the evolution of new species from earlier ones. Darwin's book did not address the question of human evolution, saying only that "Light will be thrown on the origin of man and his history" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution#History_of_ideas
(2) This book is part of the Harvard University Collections - So it's Legit!
http://www.archive.org/details/caloric00unkngoog
(3) I have asked this editior to clearly provide criticism pertaining to the relevant text. Don't understand why he is ignoring and POV claims and not providing relevant material to back it up.
(4) Ian.thomson stated himself "I am not disagreeing that the Scythians come from Iran/North India, that part isn't an issue", and "Honestly, I'd just sneak in the words "and Northern India" and call it a day"
(5) It's against Wikipedia rules to critique sources YOURSELF (Making Your Own Assumptions), you need OUTSIDE material proof to back it up. Ian.thomson is just stating there is wide mounting criticism but has not provided 1 source. Since It's part of the Harvard Collections I think it's safe to say your assertions with no material proof is not acceptable.
Jewels034 23:06, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
I see nothing that Metcalfe has written that makes him a reliable source on this subject, which appears to be outside his field. He certainly isn't significant enough to be used as a source either for this purpose. I have no idea what the Harvard library so it's legit means, Harvard library has a lot of books that are of little but historical interest if that. Dougweller (talk) 16:36, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
(1) Ian.Thompson has asked you support him above ("DR") and you can't play games here. (2) It's part of the Harvard University Collections and if you've never heard of it, you most likely haven't been to University before - So if you guys feels it's not a reliable source show Sourced Material directly connected with the Text provided countering it or otherwise you guys are blowing smoke. Agree all you want on debating it but if you have no material support to backup your claims, it means YOUR USING YOUR OWN OPINIONS! Can't do that it's called Original Research.
Jewels034 15:47, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
What's with the stuff about 'playing games'? What's DR? Looks like a personal attack on me, please seee WP:NPA. I don't mean to be rude, but unless the Harvard library is very different from the Sterling Memorial Library at Yale, where I spent many happy hours as a student, it holds many books that would not be reliable sources for this article, and a lot that are just arcane but not thrown away. Four million books is a lot of books. As I said, there's no evidence that this guy is a reliable source for this article -- now if you can find where his opinion on the Scythians has been quoted several times in other academic books, he might be a reliable source if we were writing about obsolete 19th century opinions, but you haven't come up with any. Dougweller (talk) 20:44, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Look if your going to continue to make your own assertions based on your own personal critique fine but it's Original Research. And by the amount of time you spend on Wikipedia I doubt you are a student because you spend all hours of the day, everyday and no student has that much time LOL And get it right.. it's part of the Collections. Don't be disruptive if you have no direct material support to show. And I've never heard of several sources needed. Please provide 1 criticism attributed to THIS SPECIFIC SOURCE. Jewels034 22:02, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Please stop these personal attacks. I'm retired, that gives me loads of time. My comments on him are not original research, that's a misuse of the term. Take this to WP:RSN if you think it's a reliable source. Meanwhile it is you that are being disruptive as you are editing against consensus. 3 editors disagree with you. Dougweller (talk) 04:44, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to all the editors keeping this poor citation and the associated misinformation from this article. I'll keep watching this page and reverting crap. TeamZissou (talk) 05:03, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Folks, please. These disputes are the least enjoyable aspect of working on WP. I just finished one myself, and boy am I sick of it. This is a very complex topic! There is little original research to be had on it. Theories are multiple and numerous. It is not an easy topic and if we keep getting impatient it will become an impossible topic, and then WP will follow its tradition of having no words of value in this article too. Calm down. Is anyone 100% wrong or 100% right? Think it over. Thanks.Dave (talk) 03:49, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
<ref>Metcalfe, Samuel Lytler , ed.(1859) "Caloric: its mechanical, chemical and vital agencies in the phenomena of nature"; p. 52</ref> was recently added in. I've removed it, and after discussion with the editor that placed it in, I would like to see if anyone else thinks this source is unreliable. At the very least, it's not properly cited, since page 52 of volume I of Metcalfe's work does not mention the Scythians at all. I assumed that the wrong page number was put in, and searched through the rest of the book (both volumes) for all mentions of Scythia. Volume 2 does mention that the Scythians as having come from Iran and North India, but as part of espousing Godfrey Higgins's belief that humanity originated in South Asia (see [1] and [2]).
Metcalfe does not repudiate Higgins's claims, but affirms them. Modern scholarship holds that humanity came out of Africa, not out of India. Since Caloric advocates a fringe theory, and is not peer-reviewed, it does not qualify as a reliable source. It is a questionable source, and questionable sources can only be used sources of material on themselves according to the guidelines.
TL;DR: Metcalfe's book Caloric makes claims about the origin of humanity that are not supported by modern scholarship, claims based on the works of Godfrey Higgins, whose claims that are repudiated by modern scholarship. I am not disagreeing that the Scythians come from Iran/North India, that part isn't an issue. Caloric states that humanity originated in Asia. That goes against modern scholarship, that makes the book a questionable source, which means that it should not be treated as a reliable one. Ian.thomson (talk) 00:02, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
To state for the record
Quote: Samuel Lytler (M.D),ed.(1859) "Caloric: its mechanical, chemical and vital agencies in the phenomena of nature" (p.52) “....were in fact Scythians, that came originally from the north of India and Persia”
http://books.google.ca/books?id=oUIIAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false
(1) This book was written in 1843 and 1859. DNA studies only recently in the last 10 years have confirmed that we all come out Africa. But in the 1700-1800's even up until the early 1930's there was several competing theories of the origins of mankind.
Human Evolution article: Wikipedia
"Carolus Linnaeus and other scientists of his time also considered the great apes to be the closest relatives of humans due to morphological and anatomical similarities. The possibility of linking humans with earlier apes by descent only became clear after 1859 with the publication of Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species. This argued for the idea of the evolution of new species from earlier ones. Darwin's book did not address the question of human evolution, saying only that "Light will be thrown on the origin of man and his history" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution#History_of_ideas
(2) This book is part of the Harvard University Collections - So it's Legit!
http://www.archive.org/details/caloric00unkngoog
(3) I have asked this editior to clearly provide criticism pertaining to the relevant text. Don't understand why he is ignoring and POV claims and not providing relevant material to back it up.
(4) Ian.thomson stated himself "I am not disagreeing that the Scythians come from Iran/North India, that part isn't an issue", and "Honestly, I'd just sneak in the words "and Northern India" and call it a day"
(5) It's against Wikipedia rules to critique sources YOURSELF (Making Your Own Assumptions), you need OUTSIDE material proof to back it up. Ian.thomson is just stating there is wide mounting criticism but has not provided 1 source. Since It's part of the Harvard Collections I think it's safe to say your assertions with no material proof is not acceptable.
Jewels034 23:06, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
I see nothing that Metcalfe has written that makes him a reliable source on this subject, which appears to be outside his field. He certainly isn't significant enough to be used as a source either for this purpose. I have no idea what the Harvard library so it's legit means, Harvard library has a lot of books that are of little but historical interest if that. Dougweller (talk) 16:36, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
(1) Ian.Thompson has asked you support him above ("DR") and you can't play games here. (2) It's part of the Harvard University Collections and if you've never heard of it, you most likely haven't been to University before - So if you guys feels it's not a reliable source show Sourced Material directly connected with the Text provided countering it or otherwise you guys are blowing smoke. Agree all you want on debating it but if you have no material support to backup your claims, it means YOUR USING YOUR OWN OPINIONS! Can't do that it's called Original Research.
Jewels034 15:47, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
What's with the stuff about 'playing games'? What's DR? Looks like a personal attack on me, please seee WP:NPA. I don't mean to be rude, but unless the Harvard library is very different from the Sterling Memorial Library at Yale, where I spent many happy hours as a student, it holds many books that would not be reliable sources for this article, and a lot that are just arcane but not thrown away. Four million books is a lot of books. As I said, there's no evidence that this guy is a reliable source for this article -- now if you can find where his opinion on the Scythians has been quoted several times in other academic books, he might be a reliable source if we were writing about obsolete 19th century opinions, but you haven't come up with any. Dougweller (talk) 20:44, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Look if your going to continue to make your own assertions based on your own personal critique fine but it's Original Research. And by the amount of time you spend on Wikipedia I doubt you are a student because you spend all hours of the day, everyday and no student has that much time LOL And get it right.. it's part of the Collections. Don't be disruptive if you have no direct material support to show. And I've never heard of several sources needed. Please provide 1 criticism attributed to THIS SPECIFIC SOURCE. Jewels034 22:02, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Please stop these personal attacks. I'm retired, that gives me loads of time. My comments on him are not original research, that's a misuse of the term. Take this to WP:RSN if you think it's a reliable source. Meanwhile it is you that are being disruptive as you are editing against consensus. 3 editors disagree with you. Dougweller (talk) 04:44, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to all the editors keeping this poor citation and the associated misinformation from this article. I'll keep watching this page and reverting crap. TeamZissou (talk) 05:03, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Folks, please. These disputes are the least enjoyable aspect of working on WP. I just finished one myself, and boy am I sick of it. This is a very complex topic! There is little original research to be had on it. Theories are multiple and numerous. It is not an easy topic and if we keep getting impatient it will become an impossible topic, and then WP will follow its tradition of having no words of value in this article too. Calm down. Is anyone 100% wrong or 100% right? Think it over. Thanks.Dave (talk) 03:49, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
http://books.google.ca/books?id=oUIIAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false
15 May 2016 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Clothing
hey, I intend to work a bit on the clothing of the Saka/Scythian peoples. I started editing, perhaps some could jump in - especially from the Russian speaking side - I will provide footnotes shortly .. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DarioTW (talk • contribs) 04:23, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Arzhaan-2
Hi,
Amidst all of this nationalistic warfare, could someone please at least mention the Arzhan-2 site? It surprises me that an archeological find of such importance (i.e. Ancient Scythian Royal Burial in South Siberia) is not mentioned at all on the article and only once on the talk page. I am not very good at internet and html, but this find really is worth mentioning, as it is generally attributed to the Scythians, and maybe someone could include it in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Salmoxis (talk • contribs) 15:12, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
A missed historical point
There's a point about the unity of the whole identity being missed. On the plains of course there is a replacement sequence of cultures. In pre-history the prevailing theory is that the Indo-Europeans held them. These were replaced by Aryans, Indo-Aryan ancestors. These in turn were replaced by the proto-Iranians. Some of those entered Iran and possessed it. The rest remained on the plains as the Skyths. Even in modern times there were some villages isolated in the Altai who spoke Iranian dialects. Iranians are scattered all across the plains including the mountain stongholds of Afghanistan. These Skyths inherited dominance of the plains probably from the first Indo-Europeans. They were always dominant is what I am trying to say. The name of Skythia does not mark people who were "like the Skyths." What do you have to do to be like a Skyth? Whatever you guess is wrong, because the term comprised multiple language speakers and many ways of life. They all had one thing in common: they were under the governance of the Skyths, and then the very last of the plains Iranians, the Sarmatians. The line was at the Vistula, as all the Roman geographers show. The Balts, the Slavs, the Finno-Ugrians, all "Skythic." I am an early editor on the article. I had this argument with an Iranian editor who knew of course that the main-line skyths were Iranian, and the Iranians dominated, but could not seem to grasp that Skythia, the country of the Skyths, included numerous different peoples. Frankly the Romans didn't care to tangle with the Skyths, whether Baltic, Slavic or Iranian. The Athenians used their captives as police; no one dared to tangle with them. They left them right alone. What happened to the Skyths? The Huns of course. The last of them, the Alans, were driven into the Roman empire begging for mercy. They ended up somewhere in France with the Goths. The Skyths were beat with their own weapons, the mass attack by mounted horseman shooting the recurved bow with great precision. Until recently those customs (except for the attack) were practiced in Mongolia. In contests the horseman rides at full tilt at a post, leans over the saddle and fires an arrow at high precision into the post. They were also pretty good with the steel, and at the end the Sarmatians had chain mail. So, we have somehow to capture this unity, the last of the native Indo-Europeans, cantering over the plains from China to the Volga, ruling the entire vast region and calling it after themselves, Skythia. Only a combination of the ancient sources and the archaeology is going to do that. It might take more than one article; that depends how condensed we get.Dave (talk) 03:19, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Interesting fact
Removed the following from the main page:
Interesting fact is that in Bulgarian language the verb 'да се скитам / da se skitam' (to wander, move or travel slowly through or over) Cognitive скит- / skit- and the word скитник, скиталец/skitnik, skitalec have meaning of (wanderer, nomad).
While I do find this of interest there are at least 2 major problems with this text. The first is that it was placed in the "Tillia tepe treasure" section of the article. It probably belongs under the "Etymology" section. The second is a more serious problem as the text has no citations and appears to possibly be original research. If reliable citations can be provided I would love to see this information returned to the article, in the appropriate section of course. 66.97.213.94 (talk) 14:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
The sentence you removed is an attempt at etymology. One derivation of "Skyth" is "nomad." It is not in fact original research. There are a few good etymologies. They can't all be right. The one I like is "shooter" from the universal Skythian use of the recurved bow. I would guess with you, etymology should be in a section of its own. Each assertion should have a reference of course. If we can find a ref for the removed passage (there is one I am sure) it might go back.Dave (talk) 03:26, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
hey, I intend to work a bit on the clothing of the Saka/Scythian peoples. I started editing, perhaps some could jump in - especially from the Russian speaking side - I will provide footnotes shortly .. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DarioTW (talk • contribs) 04:23, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Arzhaan-2
Hi,
Amidst all of this nationalistic warfare, could someone please at least mention the Arzhan-2 site? It surprises me that an archeological find of such importance (i.e. Ancient Scythian Royal Burial in South Siberia) is not mentioned at all on the article and only once on the talk page. I am not very good at internet and html, but this find really is worth mentioning, as it is generally attributed to the Scythians, and maybe someone could include it in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Salmoxis (talk • contribs) 15:12, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
A missed historical point
There's a point about the unity of the whole identity being missed. On the plains of course there is a replacement sequence of cultures. In pre-history the prevailing theory is that the Indo-Europeans held them. These were replaced by Aryans, Indo-Aryan ancestors. These in turn were replaced by the proto-Iranians. Some of those entered Iran and possessed it. The rest remained on the plains as the Skyths. Even in modern times there were some villages isolated in the Altai who spoke Iranian dialects. Iranians are scattered all across the plains including the mountain stongholds of Afghanistan. These Skyths inherited dominance of the plains probably from the first Indo-Europeans. They were always dominant is what I am trying to say. The name of Skythia does not mark people who were "like the Skyths." What do you have to do to be like a Skyth? Whatever you guess is wrong, because the term comprised multiple language speakers and many ways of life. They all had one thing in common: they were under the governance of the Skyths, and then the very last of the plains Iranians, the Sarmatians. The line was at the Vistula, as all the Roman geographers show. The Balts, the Slavs, the Finno-Ugrians, all "Skythic." I am an early editor on the article. I had this argument with an Iranian editor who knew of course that the main-line skyths were Iranian, and the Iranians dominated, but could not seem to grasp that Skythia, the country of the Skyths, included numerous different peoples. Frankly the Romans didn't care to tangle with the Skyths, whether Baltic, Slavic or Iranian. The Athenians used their captives as police; no one dared to tangle with them. They left them right alone. What happened to the Skyths? The Huns of course. The last of them, the Alans, were driven into the Roman empire begging for mercy. They ended up somewhere in France with the Goths. The Skyths were beat with their own weapons, the mass attack by mounted horseman shooting the recurved bow with great precision. Until recently those customs (except for the attack) were practiced in Mongolia. In contests the horseman rides at full tilt at a post, leans over the saddle and fires an arrow at high precision into the post. They were also pretty good with the steel, and at the end the Sarmatians had chain mail. So, we have somehow to capture this unity, the last of the native Indo-Europeans, cantering over the plains from China to the Volga, ruling the entire vast region and calling it after themselves, Skythia. Only a combination of the ancient sources and the archaeology is going to do that. It might take more than one article; that depends how condensed we get.Dave (talk) 03:19, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Interesting fact
Removed the following from the main page:
Interesting fact is that in Bulgarian language the verb 'да се скитам / da se skitam' (to wander, move or travel slowly through or over) Cognitive скит- / skit- and the word скитник, скиталец/skitnik, skitalec have meaning of (wanderer, nomad).
While I do find this of interest there are at least 2 major problems with this text. The first is that it was placed in the "Tillia tepe treasure" section of the article. It probably belongs under the "Etymology" section. The second is a more serious problem as the text has no citations and appears to possibly be original research. If reliable citations can be provided I would love to see this information returned to the article, in the appropriate section of course. 66.97.213.94 (talk) 14:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
The sentence you removed is an attempt at etymology. One derivation of "Skyth" is "nomad." It is not in fact original research. There are a few good etymologies. They can't all be right. The one I like is "shooter" from the universal Skythian use of the recurved bow. I would guess with you, etymology should be in a section of its own. Each assertion should have a reference of course. If we can find a ref for the removed passage (there is one I am sure) it might go back.Dave (talk) 03:26, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
archive 3
1 Map
2 horses, horse tack , costume, weapons, armor, warfare missing
3 Clothing
4 Arzhaan-2
5 A missed historical point
6 Interesting fact
7 Does anyone else feel this source is unreliable?
7.1 To state for the record
8 Scythians
9 BC vs BCE
10 Possible 2-col?
11 Intro
12 Greater Iran and Persia
13 Frank Edgar Farley's Book
14 Bosworth's book
15 Encarta gone missing now
16 Harvard ref system
17 Cambridge History
18 Origins and prehistory to 700
19 The two etymology sections
20 Origins
21 Hold it, fellas
22 Scythians and Scythic= the Zelenchuk script , everything points to an Iraqian Arab origin!
23 Scythians and Getae
24 Contradiction?
25 Maeotians and Sindi
26 Chromosome DNA on ancient Bronze Age skeletons?
27 Herodotus
28 Objection
29 Material deleted from genetics
30 Dated statement
31 Why everyone wants to have Scythian ancestors?
32 Can we have a clear answer on what the Scythians called themselves?
32.1 ======
33 Ashkenazi
34 vandalism of the page
35 pathetic state of article
36 Tamgas
37 The etymology
38 Totally Eurocentric wiev
39 Edit request on 4 September 2012
40 Edit request on 15 November 2012
41 Edit request on 22 November 2012
42 False information in Turkish language article
43 The Skythians
44 DNA and recent changes
45 Nationalistic/chauvinistic point of view is the problem
Map
I believe the map on this page is misleading, since it shows the expanse of the Roman Empire on the map, but the caption place it in 100-50BC before the empire. I think this is erroneous and we need to fix it up. 24.34.208.193 (talk) 14:00, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
horses, horse tack , costume, weapons, armor, warfare missing
Salve, correct me if I am wrong but these subjects are completely missing from this 'Scythians' entry - horses, horse tack , costume, weapons, armor, warfare missing. Especially missing here is the English work of two great scholars of the late Soviet Scythian-ology, i.e. Chernenko (eg 'Skifskiye luchniki' 'Dlinnyje kopiya Skifov') and Gorelik (eg 'Skifskiy dospeh' still active) - The Scythians by Osprey Publishing, and one very recent scholarly work - Costume of the ancient Iranians by S.A. Yatsenko... I think it would be worthwhile to consult works like "Nomads of the Eurasian steppe in the early Iron Age" and recent work of D.Anthony - The Horse, the Wheel and the Language." Also reading of "the Golden Deer of Eurasia" could do wonders here ... there are plenty of articles and books written in Russian, Ukrainian, Polish, German, Persian and French that could be quoted here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.193.43.88 (talk) 03:55, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
1 Map
2 horses, horse tack , costume, weapons, armor, warfare missing
3 Clothing
4 Arzhaan-2
5 A missed historical point
6 Interesting fact
7 Does anyone else feel this source is unreliable?
7.1 To state for the record
8 Scythians
9 BC vs BCE
10 Possible 2-col?
11 Intro
12 Greater Iran and Persia
13 Frank Edgar Farley's Book
14 Bosworth's book
15 Encarta gone missing now
16 Harvard ref system
17 Cambridge History
18 Origins and prehistory to 700
19 The two etymology sections
20 Origins
21 Hold it, fellas
22 Scythians and Scythic= the Zelenchuk script , everything points to an Iraqian Arab origin!
23 Scythians and Getae
24 Contradiction?
25 Maeotians and Sindi
26 Chromosome DNA on ancient Bronze Age skeletons?
27 Herodotus
28 Objection
29 Material deleted from genetics
30 Dated statement
31 Why everyone wants to have Scythian ancestors?
32 Can we have a clear answer on what the Scythians called themselves?
32.1 ======
33 Ashkenazi
34 vandalism of the page
35 pathetic state of article
36 Tamgas
37 The etymology
38 Totally Eurocentric wiev
39 Edit request on 4 September 2012
40 Edit request on 15 November 2012
41 Edit request on 22 November 2012
42 False information in Turkish language article
43 The Skythians
44 DNA and recent changes
45 Nationalistic/chauvinistic point of view is the problem
Map
I believe the map on this page is misleading, since it shows the expanse of the Roman Empire on the map, but the caption place it in 100-50BC before the empire. I think this is erroneous and we need to fix it up. 24.34.208.193 (talk) 14:00, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
horses, horse tack , costume, weapons, armor, warfare missing
Salve, correct me if I am wrong but these subjects are completely missing from this 'Scythians' entry - horses, horse tack , costume, weapons, armor, warfare missing. Especially missing here is the English work of two great scholars of the late Soviet Scythian-ology, i.e. Chernenko (eg 'Skifskiye luchniki' 'Dlinnyje kopiya Skifov') and Gorelik (eg 'Skifskiy dospeh' still active) - The Scythians by Osprey Publishing, and one very recent scholarly work - Costume of the ancient Iranians by S.A. Yatsenko... I think it would be worthwhile to consult works like "Nomads of the Eurasian steppe in the early Iron Age" and recent work of D.Anthony - The Horse, the Wheel and the Language." Also reading of "the Golden Deer of Eurasia" could do wonders here ... there are plenty of articles and books written in Russian, Ukrainian, Polish, German, Persian and French that could be quoted here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.193.43.88 (talk) 03:55, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
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Clarify the lead section. Add a direct link to Scythian languages instead of Eastern Iranian languages. Why readers/viewers are forced to read a whole article about Eastern Iranian languages? Readers want direct info and details about Scythians, not all living, dead, extinct, ancient, old, modern, and new Eastern branch of Iranian languages. Thanks. --188.158.119.78 (talk) 06:23, 12 February 2015 (UTC) 188.158.119.78 (talk) 06:23, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done Stickee (talk) 07:36, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Iranic stock or just various tribes who shared same Iranic language?
I don't know why editors don't agree on a "acceptable revision". The lead changed again. According to revision history:
Some users used "Iranian" or "Iranic" for all Scythians.
Some user agree to use "Iranian-speaking" or "Iranic-speaking".
And now User:Johnbod's revision: [5]
So what were Scythians?! A general name for some Eurasian nomads? Majority of them were Iranic? Different tribes with different stocks and languages (Iranic, other Indo-Europeans, Turkic, Mongolic, Magyar, Uralic, etc.)?
If they were not Indo-Iranians (Aryan), then Scythian languages is just a weak theory/hypothesis?
So what about Sarmatian tribes and Alans?
This article needs a complete clean-up to solve this confusing things.
--188.158.69.139 (talk) 14:00, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
[Nothing was "done"] The vagueness reflects the notorious uncertainty of most things to do with the Scythians who, let's remember, flourished for around 1000 years in an area several '000 miles across, around 2000 years ago, and left almost no written records themselves. As long as scholars don't agree on them, Wikipedia won't either. Johnbod (talk) 22:42, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Just adding that much of the problem is the varied scope of the term, which some writers use for a large larger set of peoples than others. Johnbod (talk) 17:22, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Note to all editors: Edits on Lead section
Please read this 2013 consensus (talk page, archive 4, started by me): Consensus for the lead section: Iranian people or Iranian-speaking people. There are opinions by involved editors plus second and third opinions by other editors. We don't need another edit war or endless reverting. If you want to improve the lead section, consider comments on that 2013 consensus. Thanks. --Zyma (talk) 17:21, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
There's a consensus there? What is it? The recent spat of reversions really concerns the scope of the term, which is notoriously not used consistently. This definitional difficulty is adressed a little later, but the lead should not begin with a statement that says or implies the Scythians were exclusively "Iranian_people_or_Iranian-speaking_people". Where those links go is not of great importance to me. The wording I reverted to has been there for a while now (well since Feb 8). I was also concerned to remove the bad Easter-egg piping of "Eurasian_nomads|equestrian". In general the scope of the term remains variable, and the linguistic and ethnic make-up of most groups so defined rather uncertain and controversial, so the beginning of the lead should be rather cautious and reticent on the matter. Johnbod (talk) 17:33, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
I'm not one of the major contributors to this article (only few minor edits). Plus, I don't see any problem in your edits (current revision), it's better and more neutral than previous revisions. I agree with your edits and changes. But I'm sure that "last dispute" will start again, so if you decided to improve this article, reading the talk page archives will be helpful. I didn't say you must create a revision that satisfy all editors! But there are good points that can help you to improve this article. That's my point and suggestion. I watch this article and I wish this article becomes a good article or had a stable accepted revision at least. Regards. --Zyma (talk) 15:41, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Well I hope it won't revert to disputes - it is protected now, which helps. I have also done very little here and don't intend to add much more - my main interest in this area is Scythian art. As so often with ethnic/nationalist-related disputes, it all seems to be about the first couple of lines. I don't think that the 2013 debate, though it was interesting and useful, can be said to agree on a consensus version, and I personally prefer how it is at the moment. The trouble is that depending on the scope used for the term, it may be correct (within the uncertainty surrounding the whole area) to say that Scythians entirely/mostly/partly used Iranian/Scythian languages, or that they did not. Thanks for your comments. Johnbod (talk) 22:25, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Settled metal workers producing for the Scythians
The Scythians conquered the Caucasus and pillaged and subjected the Maykop culture. The Dolmen City was part of the Maykop culture. The dolmens were millennium old safe deposit structures for the treasures belonging to those metal workers the main article mentions: "The Scythians and settled metal workers producing for them made portable decorative objects..." It is extremely important that historians understand and accept the true nature of the Dolmens of the Caucasus: these dolmens were safes or vaults where the metal workers kept their treasures. The Scythians invaded the dolmen city and enslaved the metal workers after sacking the dolmens and leaving them empty. This is a new quite important theory. 190.152.194.184 (talk) 17:16, 22 July 2015 (UTC) Santiago Sevilla
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Clarify the lead section. Add a direct link to Scythian languages instead of Eastern Iranian languages. Why readers/viewers are forced to read a whole article about Eastern Iranian languages? Readers want direct info and details about Scythians, not all living, dead, extinct, ancient, old, modern, and new Eastern branch of Iranian languages. Thanks. --188.158.119.78 (talk) 06:23, 12 February 2015 (UTC) 188.158.119.78 (talk) 06:23, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done Stickee (talk) 07:36, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Iranic stock or just various tribes who shared same Iranic language?
I don't know why editors don't agree on a "acceptable revision". The lead changed again. According to revision history:
Some users used "Iranian" or "Iranic" for all Scythians.
Some user agree to use "Iranian-speaking" or "Iranic-speaking".
And now User:Johnbod's revision: [5]
So what were Scythians?! A general name for some Eurasian nomads? Majority of them were Iranic? Different tribes with different stocks and languages (Iranic, other Indo-Europeans, Turkic, Mongolic, Magyar, Uralic, etc.)?
If they were not Indo-Iranians (Aryan), then Scythian languages is just a weak theory/hypothesis?
So what about Sarmatian tribes and Alans?
This article needs a complete clean-up to solve this confusing things.
--188.158.69.139 (talk) 14:00, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
[Nothing was "done"] The vagueness reflects the notorious uncertainty of most things to do with the Scythians who, let's remember, flourished for around 1000 years in an area several '000 miles across, around 2000 years ago, and left almost no written records themselves. As long as scholars don't agree on them, Wikipedia won't either. Johnbod (talk) 22:42, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Just adding that much of the problem is the varied scope of the term, which some writers use for a large larger set of peoples than others. Johnbod (talk) 17:22, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Note to all editors: Edits on Lead section
Please read this 2013 consensus (talk page, archive 4, started by me): Consensus for the lead section: Iranian people or Iranian-speaking people. There are opinions by involved editors plus second and third opinions by other editors. We don't need another edit war or endless reverting. If you want to improve the lead section, consider comments on that 2013 consensus. Thanks. --Zyma (talk) 17:21, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
There's a consensus there? What is it? The recent spat of reversions really concerns the scope of the term, which is notoriously not used consistently. This definitional difficulty is adressed a little later, but the lead should not begin with a statement that says or implies the Scythians were exclusively "Iranian_people_or_Iranian-speaking_people". Where those links go is not of great importance to me. The wording I reverted to has been there for a while now (well since Feb 8). I was also concerned to remove the bad Easter-egg piping of "Eurasian_nomads|equestrian". In general the scope of the term remains variable, and the linguistic and ethnic make-up of most groups so defined rather uncertain and controversial, so the beginning of the lead should be rather cautious and reticent on the matter. Johnbod (talk) 17:33, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
I'm not one of the major contributors to this article (only few minor edits). Plus, I don't see any problem in your edits (current revision), it's better and more neutral than previous revisions. I agree with your edits and changes. But I'm sure that "last dispute" will start again, so if you decided to improve this article, reading the talk page archives will be helpful. I didn't say you must create a revision that satisfy all editors! But there are good points that can help you to improve this article. That's my point and suggestion. I watch this article and I wish this article becomes a good article or had a stable accepted revision at least. Regards. --Zyma (talk) 15:41, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Well I hope it won't revert to disputes - it is protected now, which helps. I have also done very little here and don't intend to add much more - my main interest in this area is Scythian art. As so often with ethnic/nationalist-related disputes, it all seems to be about the first couple of lines. I don't think that the 2013 debate, though it was interesting and useful, can be said to agree on a consensus version, and I personally prefer how it is at the moment. The trouble is that depending on the scope used for the term, it may be correct (within the uncertainty surrounding the whole area) to say that Scythians entirely/mostly/partly used Iranian/Scythian languages, or that they did not. Thanks for your comments. Johnbod (talk) 22:25, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
Settled metal workers producing for the Scythians
The Scythians conquered the Caucasus and pillaged and subjected the Maykop culture. The Dolmen City was part of the Maykop culture. The dolmens were millennium old safe deposit structures for the treasures belonging to those metal workers the main article mentions: "The Scythians and settled metal workers producing for them made portable decorative objects..." It is extremely important that historians understand and accept the true nature of the Dolmens of the Caucasus: these dolmens were safes or vaults where the metal workers kept their treasures. The Scythians invaded the dolmen city and enslaved the metal workers after sacking the dolmens and leaving them empty. This is a new quite important theory. 190.152.194.184 (talk) 17:16, 22 July 2015 (UTC) Santiago Sevilla
15 May 2016 04:26
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The text about clohing has several informations in contradiction. I propose this text
According to Herodotus, Scythian costume consisted of padded and quilted leather trousers tucked into boots, and open tunics. They rode with no stirrups or saddles, just saddle-cloths. Herodotus reports that Scythians used cannabis, both to weave their clothing and to cleanse themselves in its smoke (Hist. 4.73–75); archaeology has confirmed the use of cannabis in funeral rituals. Pazyryk findings give the most number of almost fully preserved garments and clothing worn by the Scythian/Saka peoples. Ancient Persian bas-relief – Apadana or Behistun inscription, ancient Greek pottery, archaeological findings from Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, China et al. give visual representations of these garments. Clothing was sewn from plain-weave wool, hemp cloth, silk fabrics, felt, leather and hides. Scythian women dressed in much the same fashion as men. A Pazyryk burial, discovered in the 1990s, contained the skeletons of a man and a woman, each with weapons, arrowheads, and an axe.[1] Men and warrior women wore tunics, often embroidered, adorned with felt applique work, or metal (golden) plaques. Persepolis Apadana serves a good starting point to observe tunics of the Sakas. They appear to be a sewn, long sleeve garment that extended to the knees and belted with a belt. Warrior belts were made of leather, often with gold or other metal adornments and had many attached leather thongs for fastening of the owner's gorytos, sword, whet stone, whip etc. Belts were fastened with metal or horn belt-hooks, leather thongs and metal (often golden) or horn belt-plates. Based on numerous archeological findings in Ukraine, southern Russian and Kazakhstan men and warrior women wore long sleeve tunics that were always belted, often with richly ornamented belts. The Kazakhstan Saka (e.g. Issyk Golden Man/Maiden[2]) wore shorter tunics and more close fitting tunics than the Pontic steppe Scythians. Some Pazyryk culture Saka wore short belted tunic with a lapel on a right side, upright collar, 'puffed' sleeves narrowing at a wrist and bound in narrow cuffs of a color different from the rest of the tunic. Men and women wore coats, e.g. Pazyryk Saka had many varieties, from fur to felt. They could have worn a riding coat that later was known as a Median robe or Kantus. Long sleeved, and open, it seems that on the Persepolis Apadana Skudrian delegation is perhaps shown wearing such coat. The Pazyryk felt tapestry shows a rider wearing a billowing cloak. Men and women wore long trousers also, often adorned with metal plaques and often embroidered or adorned with felt appliqués; trousers could have been wider or tight fitting depending on the area. Materials used depended on the wealth, climate and necessity. There where however some differences between men and women dress. Herodotus says Sakas (man) had "high caps tapering to a point and stiffly upright and ... wore trousers." Asian Saka headgear is clearly visible on the Persepolis Apadana again staircase bas-relief – high pointed hat with flaps over ears and the nape of the neck.[45] From China to the Danube delta, men seemed to have worn a variety of soft headgear – either conical like the one described by Herodotus, or rounder, more like a Phrygian cap. Based on the Pazyryk findings (can be seen also in the south Siberian, Uralic and Kazakhstan rock drawings) some caps were topped with zoomorphic wooden sculptures firmly attached to a cap and forming an integral part of the headgear, similar to the surviving nomad helmets from northern China. Women wore shawls, often richly decorated with metal (golden) plaques. Scythian women wore sometimes long, loose robes, ornamented with metal plaques (gold). Warriors, men and women, wore variations of long and shorter boots, wool-leather-felt gaiter-boots and moccasin-like shoes. They were either of a laced or simple slip on type. But women wore also soft shoes with metal (gold) plaques. Women wore a variety of different headdresses, some conical in shape others more like flattened cylinders, also adorned with metal (golden) plaques.
References
A Special Issue on the Dating of Pazyryk. Source: Notes in the History of Art 10, no. 4, p. 4.
Ahmet Kanlidere, in: M. Ocak, H. C. Güzel, C. Oğuz, O. Karatay: The Turks: Early ages. Yeni Türkiye 2002, p.417
85.233.202.40 (talk) 20:58, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 20:26, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
States
When did found the first Scythian state? How many states founded by the Scythians? britannica: "From the second half of the 8th century bce, the Cimmerians were replaced by the Scythians, who used iron implements. The Scythians created the first known typical Central Asian empire. The chief thrust of their expansion was directed against the south rather than the west, where no major power existed and which thus offered little chance for valuable booty. In the late 8th century bce, Cimmerian and Scythian troops fought against the Assyrian king Sargon II, and, at the end of the 6th century bce, conflict arose between the Scythians and the Achaemenian king Darius I." Pazkyle (talk) 09:06, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Should there be further detail regarding the usage of the term, "Scythian" by the Romans?
It seems that many primary sources which include references to others as "Scythians" do so in a very derogatory sense. Its usage as a term for referring to others as barbaric heathens, who live far away, which demonstrates the ignorance of the person using the term, seems like it deserves more explaining. Denoting the significance of the term's historical usage as a derogatory seems like it would be important for this article, and it is not clear from reading it what its true colors are. Further elaboration and citing primary sources that demonstrate the haughty attitudes had by citizens of the Western Latin world who used the terms for describing their perceptions of the East Romans. A number of Western Latin citizens saw the Greek-Eastern Romans as barbaric heathens and express their attitudes in reference to the transferring of Roman power and authority to Constantinople, that the once great city of Rome had gone mad, forsaken its values, and furthermore had somehow "receded into some Scythian wilderness". It resonates with the phrase, "going native". The usage of the term "Scythian" hardly ever seems to actually refer to actual Scythians, and comes off as a term which reeks of imperialism and claims moral highground over whom it presumes is any number of nasty adjectives such as, uncultured, barbaric, and filthy. I think its a term more people should be familiar with and I imagine discussing its usage in further detail will significantly improve the content of the article.
I don't trust my own writing well enough to do the edits myself. However, I thought I'd offer my feedback and advice on how to improve it.
Hope this helped in some small but marginally significant way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:A:F01:3724:3425:A735:1CFA:832E (talk) 16:09, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
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The text about clohing has several informations in contradiction. I propose this text
According to Herodotus, Scythian costume consisted of padded and quilted leather trousers tucked into boots, and open tunics. They rode with no stirrups or saddles, just saddle-cloths. Herodotus reports that Scythians used cannabis, both to weave their clothing and to cleanse themselves in its smoke (Hist. 4.73–75); archaeology has confirmed the use of cannabis in funeral rituals. Pazyryk findings give the most number of almost fully preserved garments and clothing worn by the Scythian/Saka peoples. Ancient Persian bas-relief – Apadana or Behistun inscription, ancient Greek pottery, archaeological findings from Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, China et al. give visual representations of these garments. Clothing was sewn from plain-weave wool, hemp cloth, silk fabrics, felt, leather and hides. Scythian women dressed in much the same fashion as men. A Pazyryk burial, discovered in the 1990s, contained the skeletons of a man and a woman, each with weapons, arrowheads, and an axe.[1] Men and warrior women wore tunics, often embroidered, adorned with felt applique work, or metal (golden) plaques. Persepolis Apadana serves a good starting point to observe tunics of the Sakas. They appear to be a sewn, long sleeve garment that extended to the knees and belted with a belt. Warrior belts were made of leather, often with gold or other metal adornments and had many attached leather thongs for fastening of the owner's gorytos, sword, whet stone, whip etc. Belts were fastened with metal or horn belt-hooks, leather thongs and metal (often golden) or horn belt-plates. Based on numerous archeological findings in Ukraine, southern Russian and Kazakhstan men and warrior women wore long sleeve tunics that were always belted, often with richly ornamented belts. The Kazakhstan Saka (e.g. Issyk Golden Man/Maiden[2]) wore shorter tunics and more close fitting tunics than the Pontic steppe Scythians. Some Pazyryk culture Saka wore short belted tunic with a lapel on a right side, upright collar, 'puffed' sleeves narrowing at a wrist and bound in narrow cuffs of a color different from the rest of the tunic. Men and women wore coats, e.g. Pazyryk Saka had many varieties, from fur to felt. They could have worn a riding coat that later was known as a Median robe or Kantus. Long sleeved, and open, it seems that on the Persepolis Apadana Skudrian delegation is perhaps shown wearing such coat. The Pazyryk felt tapestry shows a rider wearing a billowing cloak. Men and women wore long trousers also, often adorned with metal plaques and often embroidered or adorned with felt appliqués; trousers could have been wider or tight fitting depending on the area. Materials used depended on the wealth, climate and necessity. There where however some differences between men and women dress. Herodotus says Sakas (man) had "high caps tapering to a point and stiffly upright and ... wore trousers." Asian Saka headgear is clearly visible on the Persepolis Apadana again staircase bas-relief – high pointed hat with flaps over ears and the nape of the neck.[45] From China to the Danube delta, men seemed to have worn a variety of soft headgear – either conical like the one described by Herodotus, or rounder, more like a Phrygian cap. Based on the Pazyryk findings (can be seen also in the south Siberian, Uralic and Kazakhstan rock drawings) some caps were topped with zoomorphic wooden sculptures firmly attached to a cap and forming an integral part of the headgear, similar to the surviving nomad helmets from northern China. Women wore shawls, often richly decorated with metal (golden) plaques. Scythian women wore sometimes long, loose robes, ornamented with metal plaques (gold). Warriors, men and women, wore variations of long and shorter boots, wool-leather-felt gaiter-boots and moccasin-like shoes. They were either of a laced or simple slip on type. But women wore also soft shoes with metal (gold) plaques. Women wore a variety of different headdresses, some conical in shape others more like flattened cylinders, also adorned with metal (golden) plaques.
References
A Special Issue on the Dating of Pazyryk. Source: Notes in the History of Art 10, no. 4, p. 4.
Ahmet Kanlidere, in: M. Ocak, H. C. Güzel, C. Oğuz, O. Karatay: The Turks: Early ages. Yeni Türkiye 2002, p.417
85.233.202.40 (talk) 20:58, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 20:26, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
States
When did found the first Scythian state? How many states founded by the Scythians? britannica: "From the second half of the 8th century bce, the Cimmerians were replaced by the Scythians, who used iron implements. The Scythians created the first known typical Central Asian empire. The chief thrust of their expansion was directed against the south rather than the west, where no major power existed and which thus offered little chance for valuable booty. In the late 8th century bce, Cimmerian and Scythian troops fought against the Assyrian king Sargon II, and, at the end of the 6th century bce, conflict arose between the Scythians and the Achaemenian king Darius I." Pazkyle (talk) 09:06, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Should there be further detail regarding the usage of the term, "Scythian" by the Romans?
It seems that many primary sources which include references to others as "Scythians" do so in a very derogatory sense. Its usage as a term for referring to others as barbaric heathens, who live far away, which demonstrates the ignorance of the person using the term, seems like it deserves more explaining. Denoting the significance of the term's historical usage as a derogatory seems like it would be important for this article, and it is not clear from reading it what its true colors are. Further elaboration and citing primary sources that demonstrate the haughty attitudes had by citizens of the Western Latin world who used the terms for describing their perceptions of the East Romans. A number of Western Latin citizens saw the Greek-Eastern Romans as barbaric heathens and express their attitudes in reference to the transferring of Roman power and authority to Constantinople, that the once great city of Rome had gone mad, forsaken its values, and furthermore had somehow "receded into some Scythian wilderness". It resonates with the phrase, "going native". The usage of the term "Scythian" hardly ever seems to actually refer to actual Scythians, and comes off as a term which reeks of imperialism and claims moral highground over whom it presumes is any number of nasty adjectives such as, uncultured, barbaric, and filthy. I think its a term more people should be familiar with and I imagine discussing its usage in further detail will significantly improve the content of the article.
I don't trust my own writing well enough to do the edits myself. However, I thought I'd offer my feedback and advice on how to improve it.
Hope this helped in some small but marginally significant way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:A:F01:3724:3425:A735:1CFA:832E (talk) 16:09, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Clothing
This section seems contradictory: "Scythian women dressed in much the same fashion as men." is followed in the next paragraph by "Men and women dressed differently." I suppose the reality is more complicated, but juxtaposing contradictions isn't good exposition. If I knew the subject matter better, I'd reorganize it along the lines of:
Men and warrior women dressed like...
Non-warrior women dressed...
, but I'm not sure that's the right division and also unclear on what determined the difference between warrior and non-warrior women.--Wcoole (talk) 22:44, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
Discover Magazine Says Scythians Are Slavs, And/Or Mongols, Not Iranians
We're not a forum for this kind of nationalist conspiracy theory bollocks.
The Tree of Life symbol Balkans - Serbs
Some interesting symbols and artifacts from the Balkans and around the world. It seems that Scythians were very huge ethnic group in the past, and most of them today are Slavs and Germans (Scandinavians too). https://www.scribd.com/doc/43082766/God-s-Firesteel-The-Tree-of-Life
There are some old epic songs of Serbs which were kept in vocal form and passed from generation to generation (Serbs were famous as bards of the Balkans in the past) about their return to India which was disastrous. Also, other investigators can pay attention to Serbian Slava, specific custom which was kept for centuries and succesfully implemented into Christianity. Also pay attention to word KOLOVRAT, there is ancient Roman town and graveyard with such a name and it was a SYMBOL 12 Scythes which reminds on the Sun.
There is a story that Serbs came from the Black sea to the Balkans, some connects them with Scytho-Sarmatian tribe Serboi, others with Sarbans (some Iranian tribe), Serbs had belief that they were always on the Balkans and that they migrated in 4 different sides of the world from there. SO, put the Serbian cross in present day Bulgaria and Crimea in the Black sea and you'll see where! To the North-East those were Proto-Turks and proto-Bulgars; to the South-East - Persians/Iranians, to the North-West - Western Slavs and Germans/Scandinavians and to the South-West present day Serbs, Bosnians, Albanians, Croats, Slovenians, Hungarians.
Of course these are just some legends, but for those who investigates can be a nice starting point! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.150.71.220 (talk) 16:17, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Clothing
According to Herodotus, Scythian costume consisted of padded and quilted leather trousers tucked into boots, and open tunics. They rode with no stirrups or saddles, just saddle-cloths. Herodotus reports that Scythians used cannabis, both to weave their clothing and to cleanse themselves in its smoke (Hist. 4.73–75); archaeology has confirmed the use of cannabis in funeral rituals. Pazyryk findings give the most number of almost fully preserved garments and clothing worn by the Scythian/Saka peoples. Ancient Persian bas-relief – Apadana or Behistun inscription, ancient Greek pottery, archaeological findings from Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, China et al. give visual representations of these garments. Clothing was sewn from plain-weave wool, hemp cloth, silk fabrics, felt, leather and hides.
Scythian women dressed in much the same fashion as men. A Pazyryk burial, discovered in the 1990s, contained the skeletons of a man and a woman, each with weapons, arrowheads, and an axe. Men and warrior women wore tunics, often embroidered, adorned with felt applique work, or metal (golden) plaques. Persepolis Apadana serves a good starting point to observe tunics of the Sakas. They appear to be a sewn, long sleeve garment that extended to the knees and belted with a belt. Warrior belts were made of leather, often with gold or other metal adornments and had many attached leather thongs for fastening of the owner's gorytos, sword, whet stone, whip etc. Belts were fastened with metal or horn belt-hooks, leather thongs and metal (often golden) or horn belt-plates. Based on numerous archeological findings in Ukraine, southern Russian and Kazakhstan men and warrior women wore long sleeve tunics that were always belted, often with richly ornamented belts. The Kazakhstan Saka (e.g. Issyk Golden Man/Maiden) wore shorter tunics and more close fitting tunics than the Pontic steppe Scythians. Some Pazyryk culture Saka wore short belted tunic with a lapel on a right side, upright collar, 'puffed' sleeves narrowing at a wrist and bound in narrow cuffs of a color different from the rest of the tunic.
Men and women wore coats, e.g. Pazyryk Saka had many varieties, from fur to felt. They could have worn a riding coat that later was known as a Median robe or Kantus. Long sleeved, and open, it seems that on the Persepolis Apadana Skudrian delegation is perhaps shown wearing such coat. The Pazyryk felt tapestry shows a rider wearing a billowing cloak. Men and women wore long trousers also, often adorned with metal plaques and often embroidered or adorned with felt appliqués; trousers could have been wider or tight fitting depending on the area. Materials used depended on the wealth, climate and necessity.
There where however some differences between men and women outfit.
Herodotus says Sakas (man) had "high caps tapering to a point and stiffly upright and ... wore trousers." Asian Saka headgear is clearly visible on the Persepolis Apadana again staircase bas-relief – high pointed hat with flaps over ears and the nape of the neck.[45] From China to the Danube delta, men seemed to have worn a variety of soft headgear – either conical like the one described by Herodotus, or rounder, more like a Phrygian cap. Based on the Pazyryk findings (can be seen also in the south Siberian, Uralic and Kazakhstan rock drawings) some caps were topped with zoomorphic wooden sculptures firmly attached to a cap and forming an integral part of the headgear, similar to the surviving nomad helmets from northern China. Women wore shawls, often richly decorated with metal (golden) plaques. Scythian women wore sometimes long, loose robes, ornamented with metal plaques (gold). Warriors, men and women, wore variations of long and shorter boots, wool-leather-felt gaiter-boots and moccasin-like shoes. They were either of a laced or simple slip on type. But women wore also soft shoes with metal (gold) plaques. Women wore a variety of different headdresses, some conical in shape others more like flattened cylinders, also adorned with metal (golden) plaques.
85.233.202.40 (talk) 20:18, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
This section seems contradictory: "Scythian women dressed in much the same fashion as men." is followed in the next paragraph by "Men and women dressed differently." I suppose the reality is more complicated, but juxtaposing contradictions isn't good exposition. If I knew the subject matter better, I'd reorganize it along the lines of:
Men and warrior women dressed like...
Non-warrior women dressed...
, but I'm not sure that's the right division and also unclear on what determined the difference between warrior and non-warrior women.--Wcoole (talk) 22:44, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
Discover Magazine Says Scythians Are Slavs, And/Or Mongols, Not Iranians
We're not a forum for this kind of nationalist conspiracy theory bollocks.
The Tree of Life symbol Balkans - Serbs
Some interesting symbols and artifacts from the Balkans and around the world. It seems that Scythians were very huge ethnic group in the past, and most of them today are Slavs and Germans (Scandinavians too). https://www.scribd.com/doc/43082766/God-s-Firesteel-The-Tree-of-Life
There are some old epic songs of Serbs which were kept in vocal form and passed from generation to generation (Serbs were famous as bards of the Balkans in the past) about their return to India which was disastrous. Also, other investigators can pay attention to Serbian Slava, specific custom which was kept for centuries and succesfully implemented into Christianity. Also pay attention to word KOLOVRAT, there is ancient Roman town and graveyard with such a name and it was a SYMBOL 12 Scythes which reminds on the Sun.
There is a story that Serbs came from the Black sea to the Balkans, some connects them with Scytho-Sarmatian tribe Serboi, others with Sarbans (some Iranian tribe), Serbs had belief that they were always on the Balkans and that they migrated in 4 different sides of the world from there. SO, put the Serbian cross in present day Bulgaria and Crimea in the Black sea and you'll see where! To the North-East those were Proto-Turks and proto-Bulgars; to the South-East - Persians/Iranians, to the North-West - Western Slavs and Germans/Scandinavians and to the South-West present day Serbs, Bosnians, Albanians, Croats, Slovenians, Hungarians.
Of course these are just some legends, but for those who investigates can be a nice starting point! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.150.71.220 (talk) 16:17, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Clothing
According to Herodotus, Scythian costume consisted of padded and quilted leather trousers tucked into boots, and open tunics. They rode with no stirrups or saddles, just saddle-cloths. Herodotus reports that Scythians used cannabis, both to weave their clothing and to cleanse themselves in its smoke (Hist. 4.73–75); archaeology has confirmed the use of cannabis in funeral rituals. Pazyryk findings give the most number of almost fully preserved garments and clothing worn by the Scythian/Saka peoples. Ancient Persian bas-relief – Apadana or Behistun inscription, ancient Greek pottery, archaeological findings from Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, China et al. give visual representations of these garments. Clothing was sewn from plain-weave wool, hemp cloth, silk fabrics, felt, leather and hides.
Scythian women dressed in much the same fashion as men. A Pazyryk burial, discovered in the 1990s, contained the skeletons of a man and a woman, each with weapons, arrowheads, and an axe. Men and warrior women wore tunics, often embroidered, adorned with felt applique work, or metal (golden) plaques. Persepolis Apadana serves a good starting point to observe tunics of the Sakas. They appear to be a sewn, long sleeve garment that extended to the knees and belted with a belt. Warrior belts were made of leather, often with gold or other metal adornments and had many attached leather thongs for fastening of the owner's gorytos, sword, whet stone, whip etc. Belts were fastened with metal or horn belt-hooks, leather thongs and metal (often golden) or horn belt-plates. Based on numerous archeological findings in Ukraine, southern Russian and Kazakhstan men and warrior women wore long sleeve tunics that were always belted, often with richly ornamented belts. The Kazakhstan Saka (e.g. Issyk Golden Man/Maiden) wore shorter tunics and more close fitting tunics than the Pontic steppe Scythians. Some Pazyryk culture Saka wore short belted tunic with a lapel on a right side, upright collar, 'puffed' sleeves narrowing at a wrist and bound in narrow cuffs of a color different from the rest of the tunic.
Men and women wore coats, e.g. Pazyryk Saka had many varieties, from fur to felt. They could have worn a riding coat that later was known as a Median robe or Kantus. Long sleeved, and open, it seems that on the Persepolis Apadana Skudrian delegation is perhaps shown wearing such coat. The Pazyryk felt tapestry shows a rider wearing a billowing cloak. Men and women wore long trousers also, often adorned with metal plaques and often embroidered or adorned with felt appliqués; trousers could have been wider or tight fitting depending on the area. Materials used depended on the wealth, climate and necessity.
There where however some differences between men and women outfit.
Herodotus says Sakas (man) had "high caps tapering to a point and stiffly upright and ... wore trousers." Asian Saka headgear is clearly visible on the Persepolis Apadana again staircase bas-relief – high pointed hat with flaps over ears and the nape of the neck.[45] From China to the Danube delta, men seemed to have worn a variety of soft headgear – either conical like the one described by Herodotus, or rounder, more like a Phrygian cap. Based on the Pazyryk findings (can be seen also in the south Siberian, Uralic and Kazakhstan rock drawings) some caps were topped with zoomorphic wooden sculptures firmly attached to a cap and forming an integral part of the headgear, similar to the surviving nomad helmets from northern China. Women wore shawls, often richly decorated with metal (golden) plaques. Scythian women wore sometimes long, loose robes, ornamented with metal plaques (gold). Warriors, men and women, wore variations of long and shorter boots, wool-leather-felt gaiter-boots and moccasin-like shoes. They were either of a laced or simple slip on type. But women wore also soft shoes with metal (gold) plaques. Women wore a variety of different headdresses, some conical in shape others more like flattened cylinders, also adorned with metal (golden) plaques.
85.233.202.40 (talk) 20:18, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
https://www.scribd.com/doc/43082766/God-s-Firesteel-The-Tree-of-Life
15 May 2016 04:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Israelite or Slavic connection to Scythians
Sorry Ian.thomson, I didn't read your edit summary before re-submitting my edit. The claim in the original source is not valid. Yes, it is in that book. But no, it's not correct. It is not cited within that book. It defies common sense. No one in their right mind would claim from either genetic evidence or from the Bible's genealogy (which is what the Christians during the Middle Ages actually believed in) that there was ANY connection between Israelites (Semitic people) and Scythians (Aryan/Indo-Aryan/Indo-European). If you want to re-insert that, then appropriate care should be taken to remind people they are reading under a heading which says "CLAIMS of descent", and that this is a CLAIM, in contrast to modern evidence and most other claims, though the historical nature of this claim is in doubt because as I said, it defies common knowledge and belief. One example of a long-shot "CLAIM" which could be mentioned is the Irish claim to Scythian descent. That is somewhat plausible through their own legends and what limited evidence is available. There is NO link whatsoever for these "Lost tribes of Israel" theories. Every race seems to be attributed to one of these "lost tribes" at one time or another and it's about as valid of a claim as UFOs or the Illuminati. It has no business being on a Wikipedia page unless it's one talking about fantastic conspiracy theories. In short, that's not a claim. That's just a fantasy. I don't know how this hasn't been pointed out yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.37.16.130 (talk) 19:00, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
I COMPLETELY agree with the user below me regarding "Why everyone wants to have Scythian ancestors". The only descendants of Scythians that are historically proven are A) CENTRAL ASIANS, because they live in the Scythians' home region (yes there are many Turkic people in Central Asia who were the ones who displaced Scythian but it stands to reason from the example of human history that Scythians wound up contributing a genetic component to their heirs... an entire people do not just disappear from a region) B) INDO-SCYTHIANS, which is the last historically documented civilization of Scythians who were forced out of Central Asia and established kingdoms in the Northern part of the Indian subcontinent. There is most likely definitely a link between Slavic populations of Asia and Scythians from Central Asia, but there's likely a link between Scythians and MANY populations. The two most concrete links are the ones I just mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.37.16.130 (talk) 19:11, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
New stuff goes at the bottom. Wikipedia does allow fringe theories that are notable and sourced, regardless of how stupid they are, and the article does not say anything about John Wilson being correct, just that Wilson made the claim. I understand that it is a fantasy, but it is a sourced piece of information. Wikipedia is not about what is true, but what is just a summary of different sources. EDIT: Also, the heading for the section is already "Descent claims". Ian.thomson (talk) 19:16, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
I saw your newest edit which qualifies that claim as being of loose basis. That's acceptable, thanks for listening. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.37.16.130 (talk) 19:19, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Oh my god people from the Ukraine and adjoining areas might be descendants from scythians? That's crazy like saying modern Egyptians could descend from ancient one's, Greeks from the ancient Greeks. Nobody will ever admit a link between the two as it would debunk the theory of the slavic origin's in the mysterious swamp of narnia? About the Israel link/similarities -- There where no lost tribe's if you want to get into the origins of the bible look into The Vedas,Zoroastrian, Greek and Babylonian text's -- a good start is The Origin of the History of Israel: Herodotus's Histories As Blueprint for the First Books of the Bible. Nothing but the fact's ma'am. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.134.189.175 (talk) 05:47, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
The Saka vs caucasians
There has to be a clear distinction made between the scythians , to the east of the caspian sea and the inhabitants of caucasia.
92.42.52.23 (talk) 05:38, 1 August 2010 (UTC)Goshtasp
Well, yes and no. The Alans, the last descendants of the Iranian Skyths, took refuge from the Huns in the Caucasus. Half speak "Iron" (Aryan) and half Digger, a Caucasian language. It is a complex ethnic situation enduring over thousands of years and thousands of miles rather than a local circumstance. It is in fact not going to be an easy article even if we can find out the facts and agree on them.Dave (talk) 03:35, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Digger(?)(Digoron) is not Caucasian language. It was spoken by western Alans. And it is considered having minimum caucasian borrowed words.--Bouron (talk) 17:59, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
How do we know what language they spoke? History book's are really out of date. Clear example is Abaev version of the word Alani = aryana? Why make such a giant leap say the word 'deer' in Russian and bingo you have Alan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.179.70.214 (talk) 22:10, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Sorry Ian.thomson, I didn't read your edit summary before re-submitting my edit. The claim in the original source is not valid. Yes, it is in that book. But no, it's not correct. It is not cited within that book. It defies common sense. No one in their right mind would claim from either genetic evidence or from the Bible's genealogy (which is what the Christians during the Middle Ages actually believed in) that there was ANY connection between Israelites (Semitic people) and Scythians (Aryan/Indo-Aryan/Indo-European). If you want to re-insert that, then appropriate care should be taken to remind people they are reading under a heading which says "CLAIMS of descent", and that this is a CLAIM, in contrast to modern evidence and most other claims, though the historical nature of this claim is in doubt because as I said, it defies common knowledge and belief. One example of a long-shot "CLAIM" which could be mentioned is the Irish claim to Scythian descent. That is somewhat plausible through their own legends and what limited evidence is available. There is NO link whatsoever for these "Lost tribes of Israel" theories. Every race seems to be attributed to one of these "lost tribes" at one time or another and it's about as valid of a claim as UFOs or the Illuminati. It has no business being on a Wikipedia page unless it's one talking about fantastic conspiracy theories. In short, that's not a claim. That's just a fantasy. I don't know how this hasn't been pointed out yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.37.16.130 (talk) 19:00, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
I COMPLETELY agree with the user below me regarding "Why everyone wants to have Scythian ancestors". The only descendants of Scythians that are historically proven are A) CENTRAL ASIANS, because they live in the Scythians' home region (yes there are many Turkic people in Central Asia who were the ones who displaced Scythian but it stands to reason from the example of human history that Scythians wound up contributing a genetic component to their heirs... an entire people do not just disappear from a region) B) INDO-SCYTHIANS, which is the last historically documented civilization of Scythians who were forced out of Central Asia and established kingdoms in the Northern part of the Indian subcontinent. There is most likely definitely a link between Slavic populations of Asia and Scythians from Central Asia, but there's likely a link between Scythians and MANY populations. The two most concrete links are the ones I just mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.37.16.130 (talk) 19:11, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
New stuff goes at the bottom. Wikipedia does allow fringe theories that are notable and sourced, regardless of how stupid they are, and the article does not say anything about John Wilson being correct, just that Wilson made the claim. I understand that it is a fantasy, but it is a sourced piece of information. Wikipedia is not about what is true, but what is just a summary of different sources. EDIT: Also, the heading for the section is already "Descent claims". Ian.thomson (talk) 19:16, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
I saw your newest edit which qualifies that claim as being of loose basis. That's acceptable, thanks for listening. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.37.16.130 (talk) 19:19, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Oh my god people from the Ukraine and adjoining areas might be descendants from scythians? That's crazy like saying modern Egyptians could descend from ancient one's, Greeks from the ancient Greeks. Nobody will ever admit a link between the two as it would debunk the theory of the slavic origin's in the mysterious swamp of narnia? About the Israel link/similarities -- There where no lost tribe's if you want to get into the origins of the bible look into The Vedas,Zoroastrian, Greek and Babylonian text's -- a good start is The Origin of the History of Israel: Herodotus's Histories As Blueprint for the First Books of the Bible. Nothing but the fact's ma'am. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.134.189.175 (talk) 05:47, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
The Saka vs caucasians
There has to be a clear distinction made between the scythians , to the east of the caspian sea and the inhabitants of caucasia.
92.42.52.23 (talk) 05:38, 1 August 2010 (UTC)Goshtasp
Well, yes and no. The Alans, the last descendants of the Iranian Skyths, took refuge from the Huns in the Caucasus. Half speak "Iron" (Aryan) and half Digger, a Caucasian language. It is a complex ethnic situation enduring over thousands of years and thousands of miles rather than a local circumstance. It is in fact not going to be an easy article even if we can find out the facts and agree on them.Dave (talk) 03:35, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Digger(?)(Digoron) is not Caucasian language. It was spoken by western Alans. And it is considered having minimum caucasian borrowed words.--Bouron (talk) 17:59, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
How do we know what language they spoke? History book's are really out of date. Clear example is Abaev version of the word Alani = aryana? Why make such a giant leap say the word 'deer' in Russian and bingo you have Alan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.179.70.214 (talk) 22:10, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Editing it to 'Iranian people'
Hi,
I just found out that for some reasons, Scythians are 'degenerated' into Iranian-speaking people, while they have been called 'Iranian people' for years on this same Wikipedia page. I can't see the reason for this change, so I am planning to change it. Not before I'll explain why I am going to change this etiquette. Scythians were not only linguistically Iranian (or Iranic), but also religiously and to some extent socially. We can find common religious elements in Scythian religion and religions of other Iranian people, like the Persians, who practiced Zoroastrianism at that time, and before that practiced a proto-Iranian religion. The Persian (or Median) religious caste of priests called the 'Magi' is almost comparable to the Scythian religious caste of priests called the 'Enarei'. The same counts for the practice of horse sacrifice, nomadic life and mythology. So the claim that Scythians are only linguistically Iranian is not only incorrect, but also misleading, as there are many cultural similarities between the various Iranian groups of that time. The role of women in military warfare is, for instance, another example. So if we would agree with the notion of people being a body of persons sharing a common religion, culture, language, or inherited condition of life, its quite easy to defend this change. I am going to collect various academic sources to substantiate and emphasize this greater linguistic, cultural and religious bond between the people called Iranian, and then I am going to edit this page. If anyone has suggestions, or questions, feel free to post them.
With regards,
Apollonia (I am not logged in right now).
Err, no, Scythians were not Zoroastrian, and they had no "bond" with Persians. This is not a forum for you to discharge your ill-informed opinions.The academic texts do not describe SCythians in terms of Zoroastrianism, but Animal Style art and shamanistic type cultures of the Siberian regions. Of course there was some PErsian influence, but then again, that was felt all the way to Thrace, GReece and Macedonia. So what ? 12:59, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Ordžonikidze or Yenakievo?
On the picture about Gold Scythian pectoral we see text about pectoral: ″Gold Scythian pectoral, or neckpiece, from a royal kurgan in Tolstaya Mogila, Ordžonikidze, Ukraine, dated to the second half of the 4th century BC. ...″ But on the name of Ukrainian city Ordžonikidze, in Dnepropetrovsk region - ″Gold Scythian pectoral, or neckpiece, from a royal kurgan in Tolstaya Mogila, Ordžonikidze, Ukraine, ...″, where really was fouded the Gold Scythian pectoral, we can see a link to another Ukrainian city - Yenakievo, in Donetsk region, where in the 9th of July 1950 was born the President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych, but not Scythian pectoral. It is a very bad mistake. Please, pay attention and take action. --Cambronn (talk) 16:40, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Biblical Reference to Scythian
Addressing the comment that was made in the 3rd paragraph under the Origins heading Literary Evidence of interpretation of the Biblical quote "The Bible included a single reference to Scythians in Colossians 3:11. after immediately mentioning barbarian,possibly as an extreme example of barbarian." The Bible, according to the oldest and most scripturally reliable version that of the King James, says:"Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free:but Christ is all, and in all."( Bible Gateway:Holy Bible. King James Version. New Testament:Colossians 3:11.) Referring to the manner in which the above verse was written,noting that both of the words Barbarian and Scythian were capitalized and a comma placed in between them,would place them on equal ground as two distinct groups rather than one being a subgroup of the other or a further explanation of the other. This is also in sync with the quote above this reference stating that["They were not a specific people" but rather a variety of peoples "referred to at variety of times in history, and in several places, none of which was there original homeland."](K.Kristiansen.Europe Before History, Cambridge University Press.1998. p.193.)Blessinggiver2u (talk) 23:01, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Ishpaki = Ishvaku ??
Scythian myth of being led by Ishpaki corresponds very well with the Hindu puranas which states all Kshatriyas to be descendant from Ishvaku. Interesting coincidence? And the timeline is interesting as well. Right before the rise of the Indian Vedic period is when Ishvaku is supposed to have started his dynasty to which essentially all major characters of the Mahabharata and Ramayana can be traced to (way prior to the historically known Indo-Scythian kingdoms) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.131.224.239 (talk) 02:43, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Nice read -- what about Ishvaku and Ishkuzi? More study needed into the links of the scythians and India certainly provide a more accurate picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.134.189.175 (talk) 05:51, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
I just found out that for some reasons, Scythians are 'degenerated' into Iranian-speaking people, while they have been called 'Iranian people' for years on this same Wikipedia page. I can't see the reason for this change, so I am planning to change it. Not before I'll explain why I am going to change this etiquette. Scythians were not only linguistically Iranian (or Iranic), but also religiously and to some extent socially. We can find common religious elements in Scythian religion and religions of other Iranian people, like the Persians, who practiced Zoroastrianism at that time, and before that practiced a proto-Iranian religion. The Persian (or Median) religious caste of priests called the 'Magi' is almost comparable to the Scythian religious caste of priests called the 'Enarei'. The same counts for the practice of horse sacrifice, nomadic life and mythology. So the claim that Scythians are only linguistically Iranian is not only incorrect, but also misleading, as there are many cultural similarities between the various Iranian groups of that time. The role of women in military warfare is, for instance, another example. So if we would agree with the notion of people being a body of persons sharing a common religion, culture, language, or inherited condition of life, its quite easy to defend this change. I am going to collect various academic sources to substantiate and emphasize this greater linguistic, cultural and religious bond between the people called Iranian, and then I am going to edit this page. If anyone has suggestions, or questions, feel free to post them.
With regards,
Apollonia (I am not logged in right now).
Err, no, Scythians were not Zoroastrian, and they had no "bond" with Persians. This is not a forum for you to discharge your ill-informed opinions.The academic texts do not describe SCythians in terms of Zoroastrianism, but Animal Style art and shamanistic type cultures of the Siberian regions. Of course there was some PErsian influence, but then again, that was felt all the way to Thrace, GReece and Macedonia. So what ? 12:59, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Ordžonikidze or Yenakievo?
On the picture about Gold Scythian pectoral we see text about pectoral: ″Gold Scythian pectoral, or neckpiece, from a royal kurgan in Tolstaya Mogila, Ordžonikidze, Ukraine, dated to the second half of the 4th century BC. ...″ But on the name of Ukrainian city Ordžonikidze, in Dnepropetrovsk region - ″Gold Scythian pectoral, or neckpiece, from a royal kurgan in Tolstaya Mogila, Ordžonikidze, Ukraine, ...″, where really was fouded the Gold Scythian pectoral, we can see a link to another Ukrainian city - Yenakievo, in Donetsk region, where in the 9th of July 1950 was born the President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych, but not Scythian pectoral. It is a very bad mistake. Please, pay attention and take action. --Cambronn (talk) 16:40, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Biblical Reference to Scythian
Addressing the comment that was made in the 3rd paragraph under the Origins heading Literary Evidence of interpretation of the Biblical quote "The Bible included a single reference to Scythians in Colossians 3:11. after immediately mentioning barbarian,possibly as an extreme example of barbarian." The Bible, according to the oldest and most scripturally reliable version that of the King James, says:"Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free:but Christ is all, and in all."( Bible Gateway:Holy Bible. King James Version. New Testament:Colossians 3:11.) Referring to the manner in which the above verse was written,noting that both of the words Barbarian and Scythian were capitalized and a comma placed in between them,would place them on equal ground as two distinct groups rather than one being a subgroup of the other or a further explanation of the other. This is also in sync with the quote above this reference stating that["They were not a specific people" but rather a variety of peoples "referred to at variety of times in history, and in several places, none of which was there original homeland."](K.Kristiansen.Europe Before History, Cambridge University Press.1998. p.193.)Blessinggiver2u (talk) 23:01, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Ishpaki = Ishvaku ??
Scythian myth of being led by Ishpaki corresponds very well with the Hindu puranas which states all Kshatriyas to be descendant from Ishvaku. Interesting coincidence? And the timeline is interesting as well. Right before the rise of the Indian Vedic period is when Ishvaku is supposed to have started his dynasty to which essentially all major characters of the Mahabharata and Ramayana can be traced to (way prior to the historically known Indo-Scythian kingdoms) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.131.224.239 (talk) 02:43, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Nice read -- what about Ishvaku and Ishkuzi? More study needed into the links of the scythians and India certainly provide a more accurate picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.134.189.175 (talk) 05:51, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
As Lysozym already mentioned, their expansion whether politically or their way of life, was from east to west. You're sticking valiantly to the idea that they moved from west to east but that's just false. I don't care either if they called themselves Scythian or not. They spoke an Iranian language. The definition of "Iranian people", in historical context, is "speaking an Iranian language". Hence, the Scythians were an Iranian people by definition. Whether they called themselves Scythian or Iranian is not relevant. Being Iranian is a modern ethno-linguistic term. So if you want to stick with more 'reliable sources' as you call it, like Herodotus, rather than modern academic scholarship, that's your choice. I think you are indeed trying to racialize this article. The Scythians are defined by their way of life and language they spoke, not by whether some of them were blonde and blue eyed as alot of them (scythians) were not. The current revision is not good and I think most people will agree with that. LouisAragon (talk) 16:16, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Sorry but you're incorrect , without knowing it.
(1) Nowhere did I add anything on what the Scythians looked like (are you hallucinating?) , I merely stated verifieble genetic evidence that it appears to suggest a western Eurasian profile than southern or central asia. So strike 1 for you
(2) Nor did I say the went from west-to-east - but rather that there were many different Scythian groups, and the ones in the Black Sea arose 'indigenously' in the Black Sea, just as the Sakae arose in central Asia/ northern Iran. Strike 2
(3) I did not say Herodotus is a reliable source. Where'd you get that ? He's called the "father of lies" for a reason. Strike 3
(4) With regard to language and ethnicity: I was making the very real and appropriate distinction between language and ethnos. it is not my fault you are unaware of this - maybe you should try reading any Anglo-American work on cultural anthropology and ethnicity in archaeology written in the past 4 decades. I understand this might be a difficult concept to grasp, and I know that is not what your understanding based on whatever meager sources you normally read is; however improving the article is what we're meant to do isnt it ? Your ignorance on the matter is not a valid reason to revert.
So please, go educate yourself, then discuss (and I don't mean this in a rude way), because you have provided absolutely nothing to disprove what I have written - and you cannot and will not. Like I have reiterated numerous times, this is nothing against Iranians, out of the question (nothing but fondness, in fact), however It is our duty to continually improve. .
(5) Finally, you don't know that they all spoke Iranian. In fact, we know that the eastern most Scythians almost certainly did not. There were "Mongolian" Scythians, "Thracian" Scythians and "Siberian" Scythians, etc Slovenski Volk (talk) 07:28, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
No one agrees with your intro! Don't you get it?! I think that is what you don't understand. Heck this is a talk page right? That means we are ought to talk here and reach an agreement regarding the intro (for example). No one even bothers writing a comment anymore as you are acting like some kind of crybaby that ain't getting his candy. You are sticking to a theory that no one agrees with at the moment. If more people will agree, we are more than happy to see your revision in the intro, as we are trying to improve articles, right? :-). But as long as you are the only one agreeing with it, it's kinda strange to change it. Looks a bit undemocratic, IMO. So unless Wikipedia is yours (wich I think is not), you should stop changing it each time like some nerd (nothing personal), unless more people agree with you, wich they currently don't. If more people will accept it, I am more than happy to see your revision in the intro. At least, that's how I see it. Regards. LouisAragon (talk) 22:23, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
The article should be reverted to the last stable version, before it was changed by Slovenski Volk. --Lysozym (talk) 15:28, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Fair enough. The consensus is apparent (not pointing out the origins of editors involved). Just reiterating my changes were on good faith, perhaps concepts are too advanced for current readership and the subject is too close to some people's heart. But i accept Slovenski Volk (talk)
The lede (and in particular, the first sentence - as it stands - is potentially misleading to the casual reader who may not understand the term 'Iranian' in any context other than the modern one. Without clicking into the link, the context is not clear to non-experts - the term, as stated, implies a genetic/racial link to modern Iran. It should be made clearer that the term is ethno-linguistic. Gabhala (talk) 00:48, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Right. Perhaps nomadic Iranic peoples could do the trick. LouisAragon (talk) 17:29, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
I have made some changes to the lede (somewhat clumsily), but I think it looks better now, and still is tagged for discussion. Four 'dubious' tags on the first sentence is too much, and would only confuse the casual reader, potentially leading them to disregard the entire article. Gabhala (talk) 00:06, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Indeed, Iranic-speaking is probably better. Thanks for the input. Slovenski Volk (talk) 12:26, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Recent changes, particularly to the number of brothers
Imorthodox23 has been making changes to this article without explanation, involving omitting one of the three brothers and changing which one is successful. What is the reasoning behind these changes? They do not correspond to the sources. --Yngvadottir (talk) 12:02, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
DAB note
I have added a disambiguation sentence at the top to aid those who, like me, alight on this page looking for the stratigraphical term 'Scythian', a subdivision of the Triassic Period. Though the name is now formally obsolete, it occurs widely in the scientific literature. cheers Geopersona (talk) 05:58, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
The Bible "reference"
"the Bible includes a single reference to Scythians in Colossians 3:11, immediately after mentioning barbarian, possibly as an extreme example of a barbarian.[18]"
Bible can not be considered as scientific source of information simply because it a religious & ideological book; 1. "Oldest" Testament was even written in 11th century AD and is called Pentateuch(there are no older accounts about Scythians in the Bible).
Yes. the original Greek uses the word "Scythian". Whoever first committed Colossians to paper probably knew of Scythians only as a far-flung barbaric people. At any rate, I doubt that its of much value here. Plenty of other uses of the word in post-classic culture. Kortoso (talk) 22:58, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Sorry but you're incorrect , without knowing it.
(1) Nowhere did I add anything on what the Scythians looked like (are you hallucinating?) , I merely stated verifieble genetic evidence that it appears to suggest a western Eurasian profile than southern or central asia. So strike 1 for you
(2) Nor did I say the went from west-to-east - but rather that there were many different Scythian groups, and the ones in the Black Sea arose 'indigenously' in the Black Sea, just as the Sakae arose in central Asia/ northern Iran. Strike 2
(3) I did not say Herodotus is a reliable source. Where'd you get that ? He's called the "father of lies" for a reason. Strike 3
(4) With regard to language and ethnicity: I was making the very real and appropriate distinction between language and ethnos. it is not my fault you are unaware of this - maybe you should try reading any Anglo-American work on cultural anthropology and ethnicity in archaeology written in the past 4 decades. I understand this might be a difficult concept to grasp, and I know that is not what your understanding based on whatever meager sources you normally read is; however improving the article is what we're meant to do isnt it ? Your ignorance on the matter is not a valid reason to revert.
So please, go educate yourself, then discuss (and I don't mean this in a rude way), because you have provided absolutely nothing to disprove what I have written - and you cannot and will not. Like I have reiterated numerous times, this is nothing against Iranians, out of the question (nothing but fondness, in fact), however It is our duty to continually improve. .
(5) Finally, you don't know that they all spoke Iranian. In fact, we know that the eastern most Scythians almost certainly did not. There were "Mongolian" Scythians, "Thracian" Scythians and "Siberian" Scythians, etc Slovenski Volk (talk) 07:28, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
No one agrees with your intro! Don't you get it?! I think that is what you don't understand. Heck this is a talk page right? That means we are ought to talk here and reach an agreement regarding the intro (for example). No one even bothers writing a comment anymore as you are acting like some kind of crybaby that ain't getting his candy. You are sticking to a theory that no one agrees with at the moment. If more people will agree, we are more than happy to see your revision in the intro, as we are trying to improve articles, right? :-). But as long as you are the only one agreeing with it, it's kinda strange to change it. Looks a bit undemocratic, IMO. So unless Wikipedia is yours (wich I think is not), you should stop changing it each time like some nerd (nothing personal), unless more people agree with you, wich they currently don't. If more people will accept it, I am more than happy to see your revision in the intro. At least, that's how I see it. Regards. LouisAragon (talk) 22:23, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
The article should be reverted to the last stable version, before it was changed by Slovenski Volk. --Lysozym (talk) 15:28, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Fair enough. The consensus is apparent (not pointing out the origins of editors involved). Just reiterating my changes were on good faith, perhaps concepts are too advanced for current readership and the subject is too close to some people's heart. But i accept Slovenski Volk (talk)
The lede (and in particular, the first sentence - as it stands - is potentially misleading to the casual reader who may not understand the term 'Iranian' in any context other than the modern one. Without clicking into the link, the context is not clear to non-experts - the term, as stated, implies a genetic/racial link to modern Iran. It should be made clearer that the term is ethno-linguistic. Gabhala (talk) 00:48, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Right. Perhaps nomadic Iranic peoples could do the trick. LouisAragon (talk) 17:29, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
I have made some changes to the lede (somewhat clumsily), but I think it looks better now, and still is tagged for discussion. Four 'dubious' tags on the first sentence is too much, and would only confuse the casual reader, potentially leading them to disregard the entire article. Gabhala (talk) 00:06, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Indeed, Iranic-speaking is probably better. Thanks for the input. Slovenski Volk (talk) 12:26, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Recent changes, particularly to the number of brothers
Imorthodox23 has been making changes to this article without explanation, involving omitting one of the three brothers and changing which one is successful. What is the reasoning behind these changes? They do not correspond to the sources. --Yngvadottir (talk) 12:02, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
DAB note
I have added a disambiguation sentence at the top to aid those who, like me, alight on this page looking for the stratigraphical term 'Scythian', a subdivision of the Triassic Period. Though the name is now formally obsolete, it occurs widely in the scientific literature. cheers Geopersona (talk) 05:58, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
The Bible "reference"
"the Bible includes a single reference to Scythians in Colossians 3:11, immediately after mentioning barbarian, possibly as an extreme example of a barbarian.[18]"
Bible can not be considered as scientific source of information simply because it a religious & ideological book; 1. "Oldest" Testament was even written in 11th century AD and is called Pentateuch(there are no older accounts about Scythians in the Bible).
Yes. the original Greek uses the word "Scythian". Whoever first committed Colossians to paper probably knew of Scythians only as a far-flung barbaric people. At any rate, I doubt that its of much value here. Plenty of other uses of the word in post-classic culture. Kortoso (talk) 22:58, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Archaeological research with reference to the linguistic meaning. Its archaeological meaning is derived from and thus wholly dependent on the linguistic meaning
What makes languages the most important factor in idenity ? Nothing. Merely an outdated concept from early 20th century (see above) tied to the rise of ethno-national nationalism which sought to created territorially bond, ethnically homogeneous and monolignual nation-states. Was the most important aspect in defining Scythians their Iranian language? NO. In fact , in ancient times, language was far less important, and people were more multilingual. A multitude of languages were spoken, only that Iranian was the most widespread and prestigious. Does leaving their description simply as "Iranian" capture their mode of organizations ? NO Does it describe specifically the geographic origin ? NO Was there in fact any homogeneous culture, religion or anthropological type shared by Iranian speakers ? NO
So is leaving the lede simply as "Scythians = Iranian nomads" an apt way of characterizing the totality of what we know about the Scythians ? IMHO - No.
But you don't have to take my opinion for it. The above cited texts illustrate how current specialists described the Scythians. Yet you offered no direct responce to them, nor any sources which negate what they suggest. And the sources which you claim to "unanimously' claim to unequivocally equate the Scythians as "Iranians" were on-line Encyclopedias like MS Encarta and pre-1980s , non -verifiable texts. Hardly inspiring. Did you even look at the sources you claim to have knowledge of ?
As per my revision: Scythians were diverse groups inhabiting south-eastern Europe and central Asia[1] who speak ancient Iranian languages as a koine. Their historical appearance coincided with the rise of equestrian semi-nomadism from the Carpathian Mountains of Europe to Mongolia in the Far East during the first millenium BC.[3][4] Whilst local cultural distinctions were maintained, a broadly similar material culture (sometimes referred to as the "Scytho-Siberian complex") evolved over this vast area
Does it unnecessarily complicate the article ? is it racialist ? I think the answer is a resolute no. Does it describe what they were about in a fuller , more concrete , less chauvanistic manner. I vote for yes. Slovenski Volk (talk) 02:54, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
I'd hope you read the article better and form more careful criticisms in the future
I make no apology for introducing more esoteric, specialised, tertiary level concepts to the article. Because itsn't improving articles what we're meant to do ? Rather than being controversial, my suggestion actually moves beyond the notions of petty chauvanism by understanding the very nature of ethnicity in ancient times. As a final analogy, mark the lede in the Antes article I wrote most of The Antes or Antae were a medieval European tribal union who lived north of the lower Danube and the Black Sea (on the territory of modern Moldova and Ukraine) in the 6th and 7th century AD and who are associated with the archaeological Penkovka culture. They are generally viewed as an early Slavic-speaking group, although that they also spoke Iranic or East Germanic is also a postulate. So does this also make me anti-Slavic by not outright stating that "The Antes were Slavs" ? Slovenski Volk (talk) 03:16, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
The definition of "Iranian people", in historical context, is "speaking an Iranian language". Hence, the Scythians were an Iranian people by definition. There is no need to discuss this simple fact. Whether the Scythians or any other tribes back then called themselves "Iranian" or not is irrelevant, because "Iranian" is a modern ethno-linguistic concept defined by scholars and scholarship. I will not take part in this useless discussion. Here is a good reference article to start with: [4]. Have fun reading. Slovenski Volk had a point at the vey beginning. But he has totally drifted away, trying to "racialize" this article. "Scythians" were not a race, they were defined by their way of life and by the language(s) they spoke. The Scythians in the far west may have been blond and blue-eyed, but those in the east and south ("Indo-Scythians") were not. And there is no doubt that - much like the later Turks and Mongols - the expansion of the Scythians (meaning their political dominance, their languages, and their way of life) was from east to west, and not the other way around. --Lysozym (talk) 20:17, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
From your "Encyclopedia Iranica", the Central Asian origin of SCythians is proven by similarities in clothing, ect. Well it is hardly surprising there are similarities given that trade and exchange has been a constant reality in Eurasia since the Bronze Age to modern times, and is furthermore not surprising there should be diffusion of styles from ancient Persia given its political and cultural greatness. Does that "prove" they 'came from' central Asia - NO. And these exchanges were bidirectional - again as they always have been. Objects of Black Sea origin were, in turn, found in the kazakh region , just north of Persia (The Urals and Western Siberia in the Bronze and Iron Ages). Any honest and cautious scholar recognizes these facts. The only "no doubt" of opinion lies in your (apparently biased?) mind, and not in the concensus of specialist literature, although, yes, most scholars have traditionally supported an eastern scenario - which is adequately represented in the archaeology section, is it not ?
Now if you believe my initial writing that they "appear to have been of eastern European origin" is racializing, then Im afraid your twisting reality, or are simply a little dim. Eastern Europe is a region of the world (try google.com), not an ethnic, racial, or national grouping. Anyhow, this is shown by the ancient DNA evidence by one of the leading authorities in the field. It realy isn;t my fault if you dont' like that. The DNA evidence clearly shows that a whole range of Scythians, from Bronze Age times to Late Iron age , and from the Black Sea to southern Siberia, appear to have spread from eastern Europe to Asia (at least from a male perspective). This needn't offend you, and is a legitimate evidential source. Further work (currently underway0 wil further clarify this - ie whether the R1a haplogrops in Scythians beling to "European" M458 or Z280, or 'south Asian' (India, Iranian) Z93 markers, or perhaps both (my suspicion).
Anyhow, as it stands I think the lede reads well know, and there are plenty of links to relevant East Iranian languages, Scythians lagauges, Saka and Central Asia your heart might desire. Slovenski Volk (talk) 01:16, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
What makes languages the most important factor in idenity ? Nothing. Merely an outdated concept from early 20th century (see above) tied to the rise of ethno-national nationalism which sought to created territorially bond, ethnically homogeneous and monolignual nation-states. Was the most important aspect in defining Scythians their Iranian language? NO. In fact , in ancient times, language was far less important, and people were more multilingual. A multitude of languages were spoken, only that Iranian was the most widespread and prestigious. Does leaving their description simply as "Iranian" capture their mode of organizations ? NO Does it describe specifically the geographic origin ? NO Was there in fact any homogeneous culture, religion or anthropological type shared by Iranian speakers ? NO
So is leaving the lede simply as "Scythians = Iranian nomads" an apt way of characterizing the totality of what we know about the Scythians ? IMHO - No.
But you don't have to take my opinion for it. The above cited texts illustrate how current specialists described the Scythians. Yet you offered no direct responce to them, nor any sources which negate what they suggest. And the sources which you claim to "unanimously' claim to unequivocally equate the Scythians as "Iranians" were on-line Encyclopedias like MS Encarta and pre-1980s , non -verifiable texts. Hardly inspiring. Did you even look at the sources you claim to have knowledge of ?
As per my revision: Scythians were diverse groups inhabiting south-eastern Europe and central Asia[1] who speak ancient Iranian languages as a koine. Their historical appearance coincided with the rise of equestrian semi-nomadism from the Carpathian Mountains of Europe to Mongolia in the Far East during the first millenium BC.[3][4] Whilst local cultural distinctions were maintained, a broadly similar material culture (sometimes referred to as the "Scytho-Siberian complex") evolved over this vast area
Does it unnecessarily complicate the article ? is it racialist ? I think the answer is a resolute no. Does it describe what they were about in a fuller , more concrete , less chauvanistic manner. I vote for yes. Slovenski Volk (talk) 02:54, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
I'd hope you read the article better and form more careful criticisms in the future
I make no apology for introducing more esoteric, specialised, tertiary level concepts to the article. Because itsn't improving articles what we're meant to do ? Rather than being controversial, my suggestion actually moves beyond the notions of petty chauvanism by understanding the very nature of ethnicity in ancient times. As a final analogy, mark the lede in the Antes article I wrote most of The Antes or Antae were a medieval European tribal union who lived north of the lower Danube and the Black Sea (on the territory of modern Moldova and Ukraine) in the 6th and 7th century AD and who are associated with the archaeological Penkovka culture. They are generally viewed as an early Slavic-speaking group, although that they also spoke Iranic or East Germanic is also a postulate. So does this also make me anti-Slavic by not outright stating that "The Antes were Slavs" ? Slovenski Volk (talk) 03:16, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
The definition of "Iranian people", in historical context, is "speaking an Iranian language". Hence, the Scythians were an Iranian people by definition. There is no need to discuss this simple fact. Whether the Scythians or any other tribes back then called themselves "Iranian" or not is irrelevant, because "Iranian" is a modern ethno-linguistic concept defined by scholars and scholarship. I will not take part in this useless discussion. Here is a good reference article to start with: [4]. Have fun reading. Slovenski Volk had a point at the vey beginning. But he has totally drifted away, trying to "racialize" this article. "Scythians" were not a race, they were defined by their way of life and by the language(s) they spoke. The Scythians in the far west may have been blond and blue-eyed, but those in the east and south ("Indo-Scythians") were not. And there is no doubt that - much like the later Turks and Mongols - the expansion of the Scythians (meaning their political dominance, their languages, and their way of life) was from east to west, and not the other way around. --Lysozym (talk) 20:17, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
From your "Encyclopedia Iranica", the Central Asian origin of SCythians is proven by similarities in clothing, ect. Well it is hardly surprising there are similarities given that trade and exchange has been a constant reality in Eurasia since the Bronze Age to modern times, and is furthermore not surprising there should be diffusion of styles from ancient Persia given its political and cultural greatness. Does that "prove" they 'came from' central Asia - NO. And these exchanges were bidirectional - again as they always have been. Objects of Black Sea origin were, in turn, found in the kazakh region , just north of Persia (The Urals and Western Siberia in the Bronze and Iron Ages). Any honest and cautious scholar recognizes these facts. The only "no doubt" of opinion lies in your (apparently biased?) mind, and not in the concensus of specialist literature, although, yes, most scholars have traditionally supported an eastern scenario - which is adequately represented in the archaeology section, is it not ?
Now if you believe my initial writing that they "appear to have been of eastern European origin" is racializing, then Im afraid your twisting reality, or are simply a little dim. Eastern Europe is a region of the world (try google.com), not an ethnic, racial, or national grouping. Anyhow, this is shown by the ancient DNA evidence by one of the leading authorities in the field. It realy isn;t my fault if you dont' like that. The DNA evidence clearly shows that a whole range of Scythians, from Bronze Age times to Late Iron age , and from the Black Sea to southern Siberia, appear to have spread from eastern Europe to Asia (at least from a male perspective). This needn't offend you, and is a legitimate evidential source. Further work (currently underway0 wil further clarify this - ie whether the R1a haplogrops in Scythians beling to "European" M458 or Z280, or 'south Asian' (India, Iranian) Z93 markers, or perhaps both (my suspicion).
Anyhow, as it stands I think the lede reads well know, and there are plenty of links to relevant East Iranian languages, Scythians lagauges, Saka and Central Asia your heart might desire. Slovenski Volk (talk) 01:16, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
http://google.com/
15 May 2016 04:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Well the archaeological data is subject to interpretation and re-interpretation. A significant portion of the scholarship sees it as a local, Pontic development, others that they came from Volga-URal, others from Sayan-Altai (where the earliest Scythian type kingly barrows were apparently excavated).
And the Andronovo culture has nothing to do with SCythians given that it is 1000 years before the Scythians emerge. In anycase, the Andronovo culture is an off shoot of the Timber Grave (Srubnaya) culture, which originated in the Black Sea.
The point is there were many, different Scythian groups, so to try and pigeon-hole them all into a single place of origin is wholly incorrect. Do people even read the article and sources ? Or do they just like to pontificate blindly ? Slovenski Volk (talk) 23:57, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
And the Andronovo culture has nothing to do with SCythians given that is 1000 years before the Scythians emerge. Non sequitur. Anyway, the mainstream hypothesis is roughly: Yamnaya (Ukraine) = Proto-Indo-European → Poltavka (Middle Volga) = Pre-Proto-Indo-Iranian → Sintashta (Ural–Tobol steppe) = Proto-Indo-Iranian → Andronovo (Central Asian) = early Indo-Iranian, a dialect continuum including (Pre-)Proto-Iranian → Scythians (a broad swath of territory including the Ukraine), hence the (western) Scythians represent a back-migration in effect. (This may well mean that there was a population speaking dialects perhaps more akin to Balto-Slavic or Balkan Indo-European in the region that the Iranian-speakers ruled over and eventually assimilated. This population would have been – at least linguistically – related, being likewise of Indo-European origin, but different, being non-Indo-Iranian. However, there is no clear attestation of such a pre-Scythian population, there is only a general plausibility as the pattern is so common in history. Actually, we should even expect such an older population layer, unless the region had somehow become emptied before the arrival of the Scythians there. This is a point not usually clearly understood by prehistorians. Population mixing, multilingualism and repeated expansion and assimilation movements are the norm, not exceptional cases. It happens all the time, and must have happened all the time in prehistorical periods, too, even where we have no record or even hint of it.)
Whether this picture is correct is irrelevant anyway. Your arbitrary and biologistic (even subtly racist) distinction between "Iranian" and "Iranian-speaking" is completely OR and completely immaterial, and supported by none of the relevant sources, as none make it. Drop it. The mainstream assumption is that all the Scythian groups were Iranian-speaking, whether this is the historical truth or not; depending on the author, non-Iranian-speaking groups might not even be recognised as Scythian by definition, so the point is moot. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 01:18, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Linguistic reconstruction is not "mere speculation", by the way. Anyway, my point is that the Scythians may not have had an Iranian identity, but that is irrelevant as they could not have had one as the concept did not exist. They could not have called themselves Iranians, the term being a modern coinage. Similarly, calling the ancient Goths Germanic or the ancient Gauls or Britons Celts, or the medieval Prussians Balts is all modern categories based on linguistic research and terminology coined in the 19th or 20th century. That doesn't make it wrong or historically nonsense. It's just a shorthand. "Iranians" is just a shorter way to say "Iranian-speaking people", or "people speaking some Iranian language/dialect/variety/idiom, i. e., some language/dialect/variety/idiom descended from Proto-Iranian, as their native, i. e., first language" if you will. You'll agree that's terribly complicated, verbose and redundant, won't you?
I know many archaeologists don't get that, but that's the way it simply is. "Celts" and "Celtic" has no meaning outside of linguistics, as the term originated in linguistics and was subsequently applied in archaeological research with reference to the linguistic meaning. Its archaeological meaning is derived from and thus wholly dependent on the linguistic meaning. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 01:30, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Florian you do make some good points, however, also other parts of your arguements lack a deeper understanding of cultural anthropology. So I will respond to yur points sequentially.
And the Andronovo culture has nothing to do with Scythians given that is 1000 years before the Scythians emerge. Non sequitur. Anyway, the mainstream hypothesis is roughly: Yamnaya (Ukraine) = Proto-Indo-European → Poltavka ...
What is your point ? If you want to labour the point, please make some direct and tangible proposals, citing direct references. Yes migrations were a reality in prehistory as they are today. But people did not migrate as large-scale homogeneous 'nations'. Only small groups migrated, and these were goal-directed, within pre-defined ecological niches and well-trodden routes, and still relatively small distance (ie from one side of the Carpathians to the other; or from Volga to the Don). There were no large scale migrations of thousands of people from Iran to Ukraine. Not only is this devoid of any archaeolgical proof, but is simply logistically unfeasible.
Your arbitrary and biologistic (even subtly racist) distinction between "Iranian" and "Iranian-speaking" is completely OR and completely immaterial, and supported by none of the relevant sources
Incorrect. The irony is, underneath your ad hominem and huff and puff of an offended, well meaning editor , it is ironically you who are perpetuating the 19th century racialist idea of linguistic groups = archaeological groups = ethnic groups mentioned in texts. In advocating that speaking an anceint form of Iranian makes one an "Iranian' , who are uknowingly following the HErderian concept that language is the quintessential aspect of ethnicity, a view that few (if any) western, post 1950 specialists maintain. As you correctly point out in your later addition, the Goths were not "Germans" although they certainly did speak Germanic (as Robert E Burns and Walter Goffart have pointed out).
Anyway, my point is that the Scythians may not have had an Iranian identity, but that is irrelevant as they could not have had one as the concept did not exist
Incorrect. The Scythians certainly did have an identity, it was just not a "national" identity, nor was it "Iranian", nor "Aryan". What it was we cannot definitively say, because of the biased and one-sided nature of texts, and the limits of archaeological interpretation. However, that they shared certain burials forms and elite swords - which are "emblemic styles" expressing an elite identity and perhaps a greater "Scythian" ethnicity, for lack of a better term.
And the Andronovo culture has nothing to do with SCythians given that it is 1000 years before the Scythians emerge. In anycase, the Andronovo culture is an off shoot of the Timber Grave (Srubnaya) culture, which originated in the Black Sea.
The point is there were many, different Scythian groups, so to try and pigeon-hole them all into a single place of origin is wholly incorrect. Do people even read the article and sources ? Or do they just like to pontificate blindly ? Slovenski Volk (talk) 23:57, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
And the Andronovo culture has nothing to do with SCythians given that is 1000 years before the Scythians emerge. Non sequitur. Anyway, the mainstream hypothesis is roughly: Yamnaya (Ukraine) = Proto-Indo-European → Poltavka (Middle Volga) = Pre-Proto-Indo-Iranian → Sintashta (Ural–Tobol steppe) = Proto-Indo-Iranian → Andronovo (Central Asian) = early Indo-Iranian, a dialect continuum including (Pre-)Proto-Iranian → Scythians (a broad swath of territory including the Ukraine), hence the (western) Scythians represent a back-migration in effect. (This may well mean that there was a population speaking dialects perhaps more akin to Balto-Slavic or Balkan Indo-European in the region that the Iranian-speakers ruled over and eventually assimilated. This population would have been – at least linguistically – related, being likewise of Indo-European origin, but different, being non-Indo-Iranian. However, there is no clear attestation of such a pre-Scythian population, there is only a general plausibility as the pattern is so common in history. Actually, we should even expect such an older population layer, unless the region had somehow become emptied before the arrival of the Scythians there. This is a point not usually clearly understood by prehistorians. Population mixing, multilingualism and repeated expansion and assimilation movements are the norm, not exceptional cases. It happens all the time, and must have happened all the time in prehistorical periods, too, even where we have no record or even hint of it.)
Whether this picture is correct is irrelevant anyway. Your arbitrary and biologistic (even subtly racist) distinction between "Iranian" and "Iranian-speaking" is completely OR and completely immaterial, and supported by none of the relevant sources, as none make it. Drop it. The mainstream assumption is that all the Scythian groups were Iranian-speaking, whether this is the historical truth or not; depending on the author, non-Iranian-speaking groups might not even be recognised as Scythian by definition, so the point is moot. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 01:18, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Linguistic reconstruction is not "mere speculation", by the way. Anyway, my point is that the Scythians may not have had an Iranian identity, but that is irrelevant as they could not have had one as the concept did not exist. They could not have called themselves Iranians, the term being a modern coinage. Similarly, calling the ancient Goths Germanic or the ancient Gauls or Britons Celts, or the medieval Prussians Balts is all modern categories based on linguistic research and terminology coined in the 19th or 20th century. That doesn't make it wrong or historically nonsense. It's just a shorthand. "Iranians" is just a shorter way to say "Iranian-speaking people", or "people speaking some Iranian language/dialect/variety/idiom, i. e., some language/dialect/variety/idiom descended from Proto-Iranian, as their native, i. e., first language" if you will. You'll agree that's terribly complicated, verbose and redundant, won't you?
I know many archaeologists don't get that, but that's the way it simply is. "Celts" and "Celtic" has no meaning outside of linguistics, as the term originated in linguistics and was subsequently applied in archaeological research with reference to the linguistic meaning. Its archaeological meaning is derived from and thus wholly dependent on the linguistic meaning. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 01:30, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Florian you do make some good points, however, also other parts of your arguements lack a deeper understanding of cultural anthropology. So I will respond to yur points sequentially.
And the Andronovo culture has nothing to do with Scythians given that is 1000 years before the Scythians emerge. Non sequitur. Anyway, the mainstream hypothesis is roughly: Yamnaya (Ukraine) = Proto-Indo-European → Poltavka ...
What is your point ? If you want to labour the point, please make some direct and tangible proposals, citing direct references. Yes migrations were a reality in prehistory as they are today. But people did not migrate as large-scale homogeneous 'nations'. Only small groups migrated, and these were goal-directed, within pre-defined ecological niches and well-trodden routes, and still relatively small distance (ie from one side of the Carpathians to the other; or from Volga to the Don). There were no large scale migrations of thousands of people from Iran to Ukraine. Not only is this devoid of any archaeolgical proof, but is simply logistically unfeasible.
Your arbitrary and biologistic (even subtly racist) distinction between "Iranian" and "Iranian-speaking" is completely OR and completely immaterial, and supported by none of the relevant sources
Incorrect. The irony is, underneath your ad hominem and huff and puff of an offended, well meaning editor , it is ironically you who are perpetuating the 19th century racialist idea of linguistic groups = archaeological groups = ethnic groups mentioned in texts. In advocating that speaking an anceint form of Iranian makes one an "Iranian' , who are uknowingly following the HErderian concept that language is the quintessential aspect of ethnicity, a view that few (if any) western, post 1950 specialists maintain. As you correctly point out in your later addition, the Goths were not "Germans" although they certainly did speak Germanic (as Robert E Burns and Walter Goffart have pointed out).
Anyway, my point is that the Scythians may not have had an Iranian identity, but that is irrelevant as they could not have had one as the concept did not exist
Incorrect. The Scythians certainly did have an identity, it was just not a "national" identity, nor was it "Iranian", nor "Aryan". What it was we cannot definitively say, because of the biased and one-sided nature of texts, and the limits of archaeological interpretation. However, that they shared certain burials forms and elite swords - which are "emblemic styles" expressing an elite identity and perhaps a greater "Scythian" ethnicity, for lack of a better term.
15 May 2016 04:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I submit a better lede would be something like "The Scythians were a diverse group of militaristic, semi-nomads who lived in the northern Black Sea and fore-Caucasus regions. They predominantly spoken Iranian languages, and whilst the circumstance surrounding their rise remain nebulous, they appear to have originated in western Eurasia/ eastern Europe. The term "Scythian" is also used by modern scholars to describe various other groups in Eurasia, based on observed cultural similarities, such as the Sauromatians in the Volga-Ural, Sakae in central Asia and other, unnamed groups in the Sayan-Altai region. However, these each had distinct local cultures and independent histories".Slovenski Volk (talk) 07:11, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
The crucial point is that Iranian as such is an anachronistic term that was never used in antiquity. It is a modern coinage based on Modern (Western) Persian Īrān (plural) < (is descended from) Middle Persian Ērān (plural) < Old Persian Aryānām (genitive plural), a word which is straightforwardly rendered as "Aryans" in English and originally, as a general term, covered all peoples and languages which are now more usually (and rather awkwardly) called Indo-Iranian, though some scholars continue to use the term "Aryan" in this – historically justified – sense, as opposed to the outdated use for "Indo-European" in general. (This is also the origin of the name of the modern country of Iran: "Persia" is pars pro toto, but "Iran" is more inclusive as it also includes the Kurds and other Iranian-speaking groups such as the Kurds and Balochi – though strictly speaking, it does not include groups speaking Turkic, Arabic, Aramaic, Armenian, Caucasian languages etc. –, as well as conveniently signalling to the Germans where the true Aryans live, which could really have been a historical motive for the choice of this traditional name in preference to "Persia" though Reza Shah in 1935.)
We do not know what names the Scythians called themselves – probably names of subgroups, perhaps (at least among some of the subgroups) saka- (although this may be a name related people such as the Persians gave them), although there is a good chance that they called themselves "Aryans", too, considering the tribal name Alani, which must be from Aryānām, too, with the sound change ry > l(l), which is diagnostic for the Scythian-Sarmatian-Ossetic group. As Cheung has pointed out, there is a word allon (designating a legendary people of ancient times) attested in Ossetic which must be a cognate or continuation of this. Hence, we can reconstruct *al(l)ān- "Aryans" for the Scythian-Sarmatian language, from which was descended *allan in the medieval Alanic language (this was apparently also borrowed into Nakh languages in the sense "prince, chieftain, nobleman"), from which Ossetic, with its allon, is descended. (In this context, Cheung has moreover pointed out that iron, the name of one of the main groups of the Ossetians, is from *vīrānām – this designation has been transferred to the Georgians in Armenian, by the way –, not *aryānām, as incorrectly claimed throughout Wikipedia and elsewhere.)
This is nothing but speculation given that there is nothing to testify that Scythians called thmemselves Aryans, and whether we further speculate an Aryan - Alanian connection is not really relevant to the Scythians, (its like saying all Latin speakers are "all the same" and all come from the same place - no matter whether they're French, Spanish, Italian or Puerto Rican ! Im sure Puerto Ricans do not call themselves Italians nor do they follow Italic customs) We should only work , carefully, with what evidence we have. They were called Scythians and according to Herodotus, the called themselves Skoloitoi. No Aryans, no Iranians.
The Scythians had no "Iranian" identity – no ancient people had such an ethnic identity. They spoke languages which we now call Iranian, but they called themselves "Aryan", if anything, as a general term. Therefore, "Iranian-speaking people" and "Iranian people", both modern categories, are equivalent and it makes no sense to attempt an artificial separation between the two. The relevant literature also uses both synonymously, as far as I am aware, consistent with all of this.
Well merely refer to how the above sources word the issue
By the way, that the Scythians spoke Proto-Indo-Iranian is bunk; that is as incorrect as saying that the medieval Romanians/Vlachs spoke Latin.
True. Their Iranian language is not disputed, although minorities suggest Thracian type languages
Neither did the Scythians move from the Ukraine to the southeast, but the other way round, considering the archaeological identification of the early Aryans/Indo-Iranians with the Andronovo horizon. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 22:55, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
The crucial point is that Iranian as such is an anachronistic term that was never used in antiquity. It is a modern coinage based on Modern (Western) Persian Īrān (plural) < (is descended from) Middle Persian Ērān (plural) < Old Persian Aryānām (genitive plural), a word which is straightforwardly rendered as "Aryans" in English and originally, as a general term, covered all peoples and languages which are now more usually (and rather awkwardly) called Indo-Iranian, though some scholars continue to use the term "Aryan" in this – historically justified – sense, as opposed to the outdated use for "Indo-European" in general. (This is also the origin of the name of the modern country of Iran: "Persia" is pars pro toto, but "Iran" is more inclusive as it also includes the Kurds and other Iranian-speaking groups such as the Kurds and Balochi – though strictly speaking, it does not include groups speaking Turkic, Arabic, Aramaic, Armenian, Caucasian languages etc. –, as well as conveniently signalling to the Germans where the true Aryans live, which could really have been a historical motive for the choice of this traditional name in preference to "Persia" though Reza Shah in 1935.)
We do not know what names the Scythians called themselves – probably names of subgroups, perhaps (at least among some of the subgroups) saka- (although this may be a name related people such as the Persians gave them), although there is a good chance that they called themselves "Aryans", too, considering the tribal name Alani, which must be from Aryānām, too, with the sound change ry > l(l), which is diagnostic for the Scythian-Sarmatian-Ossetic group. As Cheung has pointed out, there is a word allon (designating a legendary people of ancient times) attested in Ossetic which must be a cognate or continuation of this. Hence, we can reconstruct *al(l)ān- "Aryans" for the Scythian-Sarmatian language, from which was descended *allan in the medieval Alanic language (this was apparently also borrowed into Nakh languages in the sense "prince, chieftain, nobleman"), from which Ossetic, with its allon, is descended. (In this context, Cheung has moreover pointed out that iron, the name of one of the main groups of the Ossetians, is from *vīrānām – this designation has been transferred to the Georgians in Armenian, by the way –, not *aryānām, as incorrectly claimed throughout Wikipedia and elsewhere.)
This is nothing but speculation given that there is nothing to testify that Scythians called thmemselves Aryans, and whether we further speculate an Aryan - Alanian connection is not really relevant to the Scythians, (its like saying all Latin speakers are "all the same" and all come from the same place - no matter whether they're French, Spanish, Italian or Puerto Rican ! Im sure Puerto Ricans do not call themselves Italians nor do they follow Italic customs) We should only work , carefully, with what evidence we have. They were called Scythians and according to Herodotus, the called themselves Skoloitoi. No Aryans, no Iranians.
The Scythians had no "Iranian" identity – no ancient people had such an ethnic identity. They spoke languages which we now call Iranian, but they called themselves "Aryan", if anything, as a general term. Therefore, "Iranian-speaking people" and "Iranian people", both modern categories, are equivalent and it makes no sense to attempt an artificial separation between the two. The relevant literature also uses both synonymously, as far as I am aware, consistent with all of this.
Well merely refer to how the above sources word the issue
By the way, that the Scythians spoke Proto-Indo-Iranian is bunk; that is as incorrect as saying that the medieval Romanians/Vlachs spoke Latin.
True. Their Iranian language is not disputed, although minorities suggest Thracian type languages
Neither did the Scythians move from the Ukraine to the southeast, but the other way round, considering the archaeological identification of the early Aryans/Indo-Iranians with the Andronovo horizon. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 22:55, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Consensus for the lead section: Iranian people or Iranian-speaking people
Editors (Dougweller, Jeppiz, Kansas Bear, LouisAragon, Lysozym, Slovenski Volk, and the others) please write your comments and reasons in this section to reach a consensus. An accepted revision for the lead section based on all cited sources and our reasons. There is no need to have multiple sections/threads for the same issue. Zheek (talk) 09:59, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Iranian people, or, equivalently, Iranian-speaking people. What is the point of having an article dedicated to the Iranian-speaking peoples if we then pipe "Iranian-speaking people" to Iranian languages?--dab (𒁳) 10:35, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
dab, I've started this new section because of the recent edits. I know the Iranian peoples (Iranic) is a ethno-linguistic group and includes both Iranian peoples and Iranian-speaking peoples. Verify the recent changes to this article (lead section, Slovenski Volk's edits). What's your opinion about the intro? Recent changes to "Iranian nomadic people" section. I don't think there is a point to change that wikilink from related article to Iranian languages article, or changing Iranian to Iranian-speaking. I accept the current revision by Lysozym. It's based on cited sources (Britannica and others). If there is a new strong theory, we can add it to lead section, but changing the recent sourced text/section OR ignoring them, is not a good idea. Because everything should match with cited sources. Zheek (talk) 11:31, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Well, let's look at your sources:
(i)the 1911 Encyclopedia Brittanica - so its 100 years old, and people generally stop reading Enc Britt when they graduate from Primary School.
(ii) the other is a dubious quality hungarian publication from 1980, which is rather generalist and not up-to-date with cultural anthropology
(iii) the third is an on line source, which in any case, does not call them an "Iranian peoples" but "speakers of the Proto-Indo-Iranian language" and also noted that moved from Ukraine to the southeast
(iv) this one is a BBC newspaper article ! I feel smarter already !
Now, lets see how some good sources describe them :
Cambridge History of Inner Asia: "Iranian-speaking tribes". Pg 97
The art of the Scythians: [3] The Scythians constituted a subdivision within the larger Scytho-Siberian early nomads inhabiting the Eurasian steppe. ..This broad cultural grouping is believed to have emerged from the Bronze Age cultures that dominated Siberia, Kazakhstan and the Russin steppe region in the late 2nd and early first millenia. ....Although we refer to the Scytho-Siberians as nomads, in fact they practiced semi-nomadism"...
The Scythians propper: "refer to those Scythians who inhabited the Kuban Valley, the Taman and Kerch peninsulas, Crimea, the northern and northeastern littoral of the Black Sea.." But were culturally related to "'Saraumatians in the Volga-Ural, Massagetae in the region east of the Caspian, and Saka who dominated east Kazakhstans".
So they clearly 'differentiated between the Scythians propper (Herodotus' "classic' Scythians and other Scythian-like groups , including the central Asian Sakae (for which a separate article already exists in Wikipedia).
Another source "This occurred concurrently with the advance of Scythian nomad tribes from the steppes east of the Volga River and Caspian Sea to the North Caucasus, including the Kuban region (Machinsky, 1971; Khazanov, 1975, p. 2O3ff; Leskov, 1981, p. 64ff). Upon their arrival to the North Caucasus, the nomadic steppe tribes met a multi-ethnic sedentary population whose culture in the central part of the North Caucasus is described as Kubanskaya and in the western areas as Old Meot. The interaction of the heterogeneous steppe tribes with the local population determined the cultural origins of the Scythian tribes in the Kuban River area and in the central and eastern regions of the North Caucasus.'". (NOMADS OF THE EURASIAN STEPPES IN THE EARLY IRON AGE: a multi hundred page collaborative on Scythian archaeology)
Another: (The Barbarians of Ancient Europe; 2011) "During the 1st millenium BC, from Mongolia in the east to the Carpathians in th west, there evolved economic systems with a stong nomadic element. As a consequence a characteristic material culture evolved...It is assumed that several related populations using some ancient Indo-Iranian language were the bearers of this Scytho-Siberian type".
So in certain editor's haste to call them "Iranian peoples" (perhaps to serve chauvanistic purposes) they miss out the complexity and inherent diversity of the Scythians. The most important aspect of the Scythians was their militarist semi-nomadism and west Eurasian (EE) geographic origins. Yes, they spoke Iranian, but , no, they were't "Iranians" . This is an anacrhonism and historically inaccurate. Its a matter of precision and making the article better quality. They were never called "Iranians", they never called themselves "Iranians", and did not have a common "Iranian" tradition. Rather, they were closer culturally to other steppe nomads in Eurasian - Iranic speaking or not. The automoatic linking of language with 'peoples' 'nations' and collectivity has long been abandoned as a descriptive tool by western Historians.
"Language does not reflect ethnicity, as the assumption that those who spoke, what linguists call Iranian ,must identify themselves as ‘Iranians’, or be a compact group that shares the same identity makes no sense" Rather "Ethnicity is a complex social, political and cultural construction that might be constructed in many different ways,but is most frequently a social construction that reflects the power relationships inside society and its social and political mobilization " (I.e. 'groups like Scythians form on the basis of local social circumstances an not a priori because of speaking a particular language. They were not defined for the "Iranianess") Sian Jones - Archaeology & Ethnicity Slovenski Volk (talk) 01:56, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Editors (Dougweller, Jeppiz, Kansas Bear, LouisAragon, Lysozym, Slovenski Volk, and the others) please write your comments and reasons in this section to reach a consensus. An accepted revision for the lead section based on all cited sources and our reasons. There is no need to have multiple sections/threads for the same issue. Zheek (talk) 09:59, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Iranian people, or, equivalently, Iranian-speaking people. What is the point of having an article dedicated to the Iranian-speaking peoples if we then pipe "Iranian-speaking people" to Iranian languages?--dab (𒁳) 10:35, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
dab, I've started this new section because of the recent edits. I know the Iranian peoples (Iranic) is a ethno-linguistic group and includes both Iranian peoples and Iranian-speaking peoples. Verify the recent changes to this article (lead section, Slovenski Volk's edits). What's your opinion about the intro? Recent changes to "Iranian nomadic people" section. I don't think there is a point to change that wikilink from related article to Iranian languages article, or changing Iranian to Iranian-speaking. I accept the current revision by Lysozym. It's based on cited sources (Britannica and others). If there is a new strong theory, we can add it to lead section, but changing the recent sourced text/section OR ignoring them, is not a good idea. Because everything should match with cited sources. Zheek (talk) 11:31, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Well, let's look at your sources:
(i)the 1911 Encyclopedia Brittanica - so its 100 years old, and people generally stop reading Enc Britt when they graduate from Primary School.
(ii) the other is a dubious quality hungarian publication from 1980, which is rather generalist and not up-to-date with cultural anthropology
(iii) the third is an on line source, which in any case, does not call them an "Iranian peoples" but "speakers of the Proto-Indo-Iranian language" and also noted that moved from Ukraine to the southeast
(iv) this one is a BBC newspaper article ! I feel smarter already !
Now, lets see how some good sources describe them :
Cambridge History of Inner Asia: "Iranian-speaking tribes". Pg 97
The art of the Scythians: [3] The Scythians constituted a subdivision within the larger Scytho-Siberian early nomads inhabiting the Eurasian steppe. ..This broad cultural grouping is believed to have emerged from the Bronze Age cultures that dominated Siberia, Kazakhstan and the Russin steppe region in the late 2nd and early first millenia. ....Although we refer to the Scytho-Siberians as nomads, in fact they practiced semi-nomadism"...
The Scythians propper: "refer to those Scythians who inhabited the Kuban Valley, the Taman and Kerch peninsulas, Crimea, the northern and northeastern littoral of the Black Sea.." But were culturally related to "'Saraumatians in the Volga-Ural, Massagetae in the region east of the Caspian, and Saka who dominated east Kazakhstans".
So they clearly 'differentiated between the Scythians propper (Herodotus' "classic' Scythians and other Scythian-like groups , including the central Asian Sakae (for which a separate article already exists in Wikipedia).
Another source "This occurred concurrently with the advance of Scythian nomad tribes from the steppes east of the Volga River and Caspian Sea to the North Caucasus, including the Kuban region (Machinsky, 1971; Khazanov, 1975, p. 2O3ff; Leskov, 1981, p. 64ff). Upon their arrival to the North Caucasus, the nomadic steppe tribes met a multi-ethnic sedentary population whose culture in the central part of the North Caucasus is described as Kubanskaya and in the western areas as Old Meot. The interaction of the heterogeneous steppe tribes with the local population determined the cultural origins of the Scythian tribes in the Kuban River area and in the central and eastern regions of the North Caucasus.'". (NOMADS OF THE EURASIAN STEPPES IN THE EARLY IRON AGE: a multi hundred page collaborative on Scythian archaeology)
Another: (The Barbarians of Ancient Europe; 2011) "During the 1st millenium BC, from Mongolia in the east to the Carpathians in th west, there evolved economic systems with a stong nomadic element. As a consequence a characteristic material culture evolved...It is assumed that several related populations using some ancient Indo-Iranian language were the bearers of this Scytho-Siberian type".
So in certain editor's haste to call them "Iranian peoples" (perhaps to serve chauvanistic purposes) they miss out the complexity and inherent diversity of the Scythians. The most important aspect of the Scythians was their militarist semi-nomadism and west Eurasian (EE) geographic origins. Yes, they spoke Iranian, but , no, they were't "Iranians" . This is an anacrhonism and historically inaccurate. Its a matter of precision and making the article better quality. They were never called "Iranians", they never called themselves "Iranians", and did not have a common "Iranian" tradition. Rather, they were closer culturally to other steppe nomads in Eurasian - Iranic speaking or not. The automoatic linking of language with 'peoples' 'nations' and collectivity has long been abandoned as a descriptive tool by western Historians.
"Language does not reflect ethnicity, as the assumption that those who spoke, what linguists call Iranian ,must identify themselves as ‘Iranians’, or be a compact group that shares the same identity makes no sense" Rather "Ethnicity is a complex social, political and cultural construction that might be constructed in many different ways,but is most frequently a social construction that reflects the power relationships inside society and its social and political mobilization " (I.e. 'groups like Scythians form on the basis of local social circumstances an not a priori because of speaking a particular language. They were not defined for the "Iranianess") Sian Jones - Archaeology & Ethnicity Slovenski Volk (talk) 01:56, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I hope this clarifies your confusion. It is indeed a very intersting topic
Hxseek (talk) 01:37, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
As the author of a number of articles on barbarian peoples in the Greco-Roman world (e.g. Carpi (people), Costoboci, Free Dacians), I would support Hxseek's arguments 100% EraNavigator (talk) 20:09, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
it is misleading to make a distinction between "Iranic" and "Iranian" peoples, as the linguistic phylum is usually called "Iranian", not "Iranic".
But Hxseek is of course entirely right. "Iranian peoples" is a linguistic term, which includes the Scythians. The Scythians were Iranian tribes who lived in Central Asia and the Pontic steppe, i.e. not in the Iranian plateau. --dab (𒁳) 12:31, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I entirely agree with that. MarmadukePercy (talk) 13:15, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
can u tell us what is the "iranian people"?? at first iran is a name that only recently has been adopted and iranian is not a race, iranians are consisted of turks persians arabs kurds and other races. there was not any thing called iran at scythians time, scythians hve been definately a pro- turkic people from altai mountains. if u study history u will see that all turkic tribes were described as whites and blonds, while persians have always been a semitic people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.225.129.55 (talk) 11:20, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Well, Anon, obviously you have NOT studied history, because that is hardly the description of Asian Turks. "Iranians" in this historical context means those tribes that would later become Medes, Parthians, etc. Persians are NOT a semitic people - you must be reading hogwash/crank websites. HammerFilmFan (talk) 15:31, 25 August 2011 (UTC) HammerFilmFan
if you mean the fake manipulated history by Pahlavi regime's propaganda then no i have no interest in decieving myself with thosel ies, you think if Turkic people appeared from nowhere? scythians were ancestors of Turkic people, they also brought Zorrostrian religion to current Azerbaijan and son worshiping Persians (Mithraism) converted to this religion, a few Scythian proto Turkic words borrowed by Persians does not make you Aryans does it? and try to remember that among various Turkic people there are no as you have induced to yourself east Asian looking people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.164.110.141 (talk) 19:56, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
We don't need to answer to these Pan-Turkish trolls filled with inferiority complexes. LouisAragon (talk) 19:00, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Hxseek (talk) 01:37, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
As the author of a number of articles on barbarian peoples in the Greco-Roman world (e.g. Carpi (people), Costoboci, Free Dacians), I would support Hxseek's arguments 100% EraNavigator (talk) 20:09, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
it is misleading to make a distinction between "Iranic" and "Iranian" peoples, as the linguistic phylum is usually called "Iranian", not "Iranic".
But Hxseek is of course entirely right. "Iranian peoples" is a linguistic term, which includes the Scythians. The Scythians were Iranian tribes who lived in Central Asia and the Pontic steppe, i.e. not in the Iranian plateau. --dab (𒁳) 12:31, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I entirely agree with that. MarmadukePercy (talk) 13:15, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
can u tell us what is the "iranian people"?? at first iran is a name that only recently has been adopted and iranian is not a race, iranians are consisted of turks persians arabs kurds and other races. there was not any thing called iran at scythians time, scythians hve been definately a pro- turkic people from altai mountains. if u study history u will see that all turkic tribes were described as whites and blonds, while persians have always been a semitic people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.225.129.55 (talk) 11:20, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Well, Anon, obviously you have NOT studied history, because that is hardly the description of Asian Turks. "Iranians" in this historical context means those tribes that would later become Medes, Parthians, etc. Persians are NOT a semitic people - you must be reading hogwash/crank websites. HammerFilmFan (talk) 15:31, 25 August 2011 (UTC) HammerFilmFan
if you mean the fake manipulated history by Pahlavi regime's propaganda then no i have no interest in decieving myself with thosel ies, you think if Turkic people appeared from nowhere? scythians were ancestors of Turkic people, they also brought Zorrostrian religion to current Azerbaijan and son worshiping Persians (Mithraism) converted to this religion, a few Scythian proto Turkic words borrowed by Persians does not make you Aryans does it? and try to remember that among various Turkic people there are no as you have induced to yourself east Asian looking people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.164.110.141 (talk) 19:56, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
We don't need to answer to these Pan-Turkish trolls filled with inferiority complexes. LouisAragon (talk) 19:00, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Greater Iran"
http://www.azargoshnasp.net/history/Scythians/scyth1.htm says "The main Iranian-speaking peoples of the region at that period were the Scyths..."
http://azargoshnasp.net/history/Scythians/scyth2.htm says "The country called after them was ruled by their principal tribe, the "Royal Scyths" (Her. IV. 20), who were of Iranian stock..."
http://azargoshnasp.net/history/Scythians/scyth5.htm says "Scythian tribes who lived within the confines of ancient Scythia were not the only Iranians in the North Pontic region."
http://azargoshnasp.net/history/Scythians/fouroldiranianethnicnames.pdf says that their ancestors migrated from Southern Russia, but still says that they were Iranian tribes (page 6 of the file). Page 18 of the file says that the very name of the Scythians has an Iranian origin (it disputes one origin, but not an Iranian origin itself, as demonstrated by the next page's "Having established the Iranian prototype..."). Page 23 of the file also says that they were an Iranian speaking people and repeats the Iranian origin of the name Scythian.
Greater Iran "refers to the regions that have significant Iranian cultural influence." I would assume this would include speaking Iranian languages, using an Iranian name to refer to one's people, and being considered an Iranian tribe to be significant cultural influence. While the ancestors of the Scythians may have come from another region, they are defined by Iranian culture. To dismiss this is about as senseless as saying English isn't a Germanic language because the ultimate ancestors of the British came from the Indo-European urheimat, not Germany. The Scythians can be refered to as coming from Greater Iran, just as the English can be refered to as coming from the Germanic world (even if the British existed before the Anglo-Saxon invasions).
Now, if someone wanted to do an unbalanced push for a Thracian origin closer to the Balkans (say, around modern Yugoslavia), they would ignore this information and want it removed. I'm going to assume good faith for now, and believe that this information isn't going to be ignored with accusations of Iranian nationalism. Ian.thomson (talk) 15:12, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Thomson, your argument is not quite right. Firstly, for you to get a bit of a basic understanding on the issue, may I suggest you read Iranic peoples, Iranian peoples, and Andronovo culture.
So there is, strictly speaking, a difference betwen Iranic peoples (any people, past or present, who spoke an Iranic language), and Iranian peoples - those from the modern country.
Secondly, at no point have I disputed that the Scythians spoke an Iranic language. From the (albeit fragmentary) evidence, their names and the etymology of "Scythian" is indeed from Iranic language. {And nobody's saying that they were Thracian, so here you are attacking a straw man}
However, this does not mean that they came from Iran. This is a geographic qualification. I would have thought that this is a pretty basic concept to grasp.
The Scythian world is not synonymous with the Persian/ Greater Iranian world. The Scythian culture - their animal art, their weapons, their nomadism, their kurgan burials etc, did not coincide with the region of Greater Iran. The latter, as is described here on Wiki, refers to the particular area which somewhat peripheral to the Scythian world. The Scythian world was one of the Eurasian steppe nomads, from the Danube to Mongolia. Greater Iran was the area south of that, the agricultural and sedentery world of the Achaemenid Empire (& its successors), the Assyrian civilisations, etc - an entirely different world outlook and ideology to the Scythians. So did the Scythians come from Greater Iran ? No.
So where did the Scythians forms ? The sources that actually go into detail on the subject, point to, geographically, several areas which influenced the genesis of the SCythian culture. They point to specifically the Volga-Ural region, western SIberia, the Kazakh steppe and southern Siberia. Areas which are not part of Greater Iran.
Andronovo culture- proposed 'genesis of Iranic speakers
"Greater Iran"
Also, when you have gained an introductory knowledge on the genesis of Iranian languages, you'd see that the Iranian languages are supposed to have formed north of what the lands we associate with Greater Iran, and later spread into them
http://www.azargoshnasp.net/history/Scythians/scyth1.htm says "The main Iranian-speaking peoples of the region at that period were the Scyths..."
http://azargoshnasp.net/history/Scythians/scyth2.htm says "The country called after them was ruled by their principal tribe, the "Royal Scyths" (Her. IV. 20), who were of Iranian stock..."
http://azargoshnasp.net/history/Scythians/scyth5.htm says "Scythian tribes who lived within the confines of ancient Scythia were not the only Iranians in the North Pontic region."
http://azargoshnasp.net/history/Scythians/fouroldiranianethnicnames.pdf says that their ancestors migrated from Southern Russia, but still says that they were Iranian tribes (page 6 of the file). Page 18 of the file says that the very name of the Scythians has an Iranian origin (it disputes one origin, but not an Iranian origin itself, as demonstrated by the next page's "Having established the Iranian prototype..."). Page 23 of the file also says that they were an Iranian speaking people and repeats the Iranian origin of the name Scythian.
Greater Iran "refers to the regions that have significant Iranian cultural influence." I would assume this would include speaking Iranian languages, using an Iranian name to refer to one's people, and being considered an Iranian tribe to be significant cultural influence. While the ancestors of the Scythians may have come from another region, they are defined by Iranian culture. To dismiss this is about as senseless as saying English isn't a Germanic language because the ultimate ancestors of the British came from the Indo-European urheimat, not Germany. The Scythians can be refered to as coming from Greater Iran, just as the English can be refered to as coming from the Germanic world (even if the British existed before the Anglo-Saxon invasions).
Now, if someone wanted to do an unbalanced push for a Thracian origin closer to the Balkans (say, around modern Yugoslavia), they would ignore this information and want it removed. I'm going to assume good faith for now, and believe that this information isn't going to be ignored with accusations of Iranian nationalism. Ian.thomson (talk) 15:12, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Thomson, your argument is not quite right. Firstly, for you to get a bit of a basic understanding on the issue, may I suggest you read Iranic peoples, Iranian peoples, and Andronovo culture.
So there is, strictly speaking, a difference betwen Iranic peoples (any people, past or present, who spoke an Iranic language), and Iranian peoples - those from the modern country.
Secondly, at no point have I disputed that the Scythians spoke an Iranic language. From the (albeit fragmentary) evidence, their names and the etymology of "Scythian" is indeed from Iranic language. {And nobody's saying that they were Thracian, so here you are attacking a straw man}
However, this does not mean that they came from Iran. This is a geographic qualification. I would have thought that this is a pretty basic concept to grasp.
The Scythian world is not synonymous with the Persian/ Greater Iranian world. The Scythian culture - their animal art, their weapons, their nomadism, their kurgan burials etc, did not coincide with the region of Greater Iran. The latter, as is described here on Wiki, refers to the particular area which somewhat peripheral to the Scythian world. The Scythian world was one of the Eurasian steppe nomads, from the Danube to Mongolia. Greater Iran was the area south of that, the agricultural and sedentery world of the Achaemenid Empire (& its successors), the Assyrian civilisations, etc - an entirely different world outlook and ideology to the Scythians. So did the Scythians come from Greater Iran ? No.
So where did the Scythians forms ? The sources that actually go into detail on the subject, point to, geographically, several areas which influenced the genesis of the SCythian culture. They point to specifically the Volga-Ural region, western SIberia, the Kazakh steppe and southern Siberia. Areas which are not part of Greater Iran.
Andronovo culture- proposed 'genesis of Iranic speakers
"Greater Iran"
Also, when you have gained an introductory knowledge on the genesis of Iranian languages, you'd see that the Iranian languages are supposed to have formed north of what the lands we associate with Greater Iran, and later spread into them
http://www.azargoshnasp.net/history/Scythians/scyth1.htm
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Hi there. I've noticed that someone has changed the language Scythians were speaking from 'Iranian' to 'Indo-european'. Whilst I fully agree that Scythians lived in very wide area; their language was an Iranian language, belonging to the Indo-European major language group
I think the term given on this article for their language is too eurocentric in my opinion.
I mean a speaker of the Dutch language doesn't say that his/her language is Indo-European; he/she says it's a Germanic language... Same goes for the French language. Conclusion: It has to change back to 'Iranian language'. I think Indo-European is just a far too big concept and just includes too many peoples who ain't have anything to do in particular with Scythian's and their language.
LouisAragon (talk) 18:34, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
I don;t think there is any reason to doubt the corpus of river names and personal names which has been interpreted by the large majority of scholars to have Iranic in character. I never changed that. I was merely adding what ancient DNA studies suggest as to their geographic/ 'biological' origin. People appear to have confused the two elements which represent two different "layers" of what constituted the anceint Scythians, sorry if this has caused confusion Slovenski Volk (talk) 07:53, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
I partially agree with Slovenski Volk. However, putting that information directly in the lead is very misleading. The Scythians proper, meaning the distinctively Iranian nomads known as "Scythians", inhabitted a very large area from what is now China to what is now Bulgaria. Those living in the far west surely were of a blond and blue-eyed "Eastern European" type. But those in the far east and in Central Asia were blending into the Mediterranean and Mongolid types. Simply claiming that "all" Scythians were "of Eastern European type" is wrong, no matter how many DNA-tests are being presented. Just to name one exaple: the Arsacid dynasty that ruled Persia for centuries was Scythian in origin. But they were not blond and blue-eyed and they were not considered "exotic" by the people they ruled. Iran's greatest mythological hero - Rustam - was also a "Scythian", a "Saka" from Sakistan, the "Land of Scyths". --Lysozym (talk) 10:50, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Lysozym. There was not 'one' kind of looks Scythians had, due to the vast area they occupied. However, they were all originally from Iranian stock but due to vast area they occupied (with various looking indigenous peoples there), they blended in. Some looking ultimately Mongolian, some with as you call Nordic looks, and some with Mediterranean looks. The latter, as Lysozym already said, being the rulers of the Parthian empire. Scythians are a hard subject to write a good article about. However, the fact that they are of Iranian stock is, I think, the main assumption we should accept and continue working from that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LouisAragon (talk • contribs) 13:41, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
the problem with both yr views; however, is that the true, historically, textually attested "Scythians" are only those in Black Sea region , as attested by the Greeks. Others in Asia etc are not real Scythians - they were not called scythians, nor did they ever call themselves scythians. They are merely put generically under the label scythian because their material culture is broadly related, ie a part of broad "scytho-siberian complex". This has been more due to scholarly malaise than historical reality, and in anycase are all regionally different. The black sea (real ) scythians had nothing to do with those in Mongolia or Iran; they weren't one "nation" not even cousins. If you want to write about the Sakae or Mongolian nomads, then there are appropriate articles for them. So the added genetic info merely confirms what more recent archaeological evidence shows - that the scythians were natives of southern Russia , Ukraine and northern caucasus Slovenski Volk (talk) 03:27, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
And you whinge about Eurocentrism ?- the Scythians are European ! It is some G.I.'ist fanatics who keep linking the article to some non-existent link to Southern Asia. The Sakae are a totally different entitiy with their own history. THe only link with the Black Sea Scythians is a recycled ethonym used by the Greeks and Persians because they recycled names for people they perceived to be generally the same - nomads on their northern frontiers. Slovenski Volk (talk) 22:16, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
No, just because Herodotus named them Scythian, it still doesn't mean they are the only Scythians or whatever you want to call them as he (and later Greek authors), mainly concentrated on the nomads living in modern day Ukraine, not those who may had been related to them, for example in the east Also, just because they lived (those mentioned by the Greeks) at the edge of modern day Europe, it still doesn't mean you can call them European as a whole by any means, if that is what you are implying. Heck, those living in that area didn't even call themselves Scythian. It's just a term given by the Greeks, as the Persians did in the east calling them Sakae, apart from the fact that the Greek-called Scythians and Persian called-Sakae both spoke an Indo-Iranian language and sharing almost the same life style. Those Black Sea-Scythians called themselves 'Skudat' in their own Indo-Iranian language, but so did the Sakae.. Does that give enough reason to call them Iranian peoples? No. I don't agree with everything you stated here, but I kinda like your revision stated down below. Perhaps if more people give a reply to it, we can make an agreement for a good, well-argumented, scientific intro, instead of one that is changing every few days lol... — Preceding unsigned comment added by LouisAragon (talk • contribs) 14:29, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
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Hi there. I've noticed that someone has changed the language Scythians were speaking from 'Iranian' to 'Indo-european'. Whilst I fully agree that Scythians lived in very wide area; their language was an Iranian language, belonging to the Indo-European major language group
I think the term given on this article for their language is too eurocentric in my opinion.
I mean a speaker of the Dutch language doesn't say that his/her language is Indo-European; he/she says it's a Germanic language... Same goes for the French language. Conclusion: It has to change back to 'Iranian language'. I think Indo-European is just a far too big concept and just includes too many peoples who ain't have anything to do in particular with Scythian's and their language.
LouisAragon (talk) 18:34, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
I don;t think there is any reason to doubt the corpus of river names and personal names which has been interpreted by the large majority of scholars to have Iranic in character. I never changed that. I was merely adding what ancient DNA studies suggest as to their geographic/ 'biological' origin. People appear to have confused the two elements which represent two different "layers" of what constituted the anceint Scythians, sorry if this has caused confusion Slovenski Volk (talk) 07:53, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
I partially agree with Slovenski Volk. However, putting that information directly in the lead is very misleading. The Scythians proper, meaning the distinctively Iranian nomads known as "Scythians", inhabitted a very large area from what is now China to what is now Bulgaria. Those living in the far west surely were of a blond and blue-eyed "Eastern European" type. But those in the far east and in Central Asia were blending into the Mediterranean and Mongolid types. Simply claiming that "all" Scythians were "of Eastern European type" is wrong, no matter how many DNA-tests are being presented. Just to name one exaple: the Arsacid dynasty that ruled Persia for centuries was Scythian in origin. But they were not blond and blue-eyed and they were not considered "exotic" by the people they ruled. Iran's greatest mythological hero - Rustam - was also a "Scythian", a "Saka" from Sakistan, the "Land of Scyths". --Lysozym (talk) 10:50, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Lysozym. There was not 'one' kind of looks Scythians had, due to the vast area they occupied. However, they were all originally from Iranian stock but due to vast area they occupied (with various looking indigenous peoples there), they blended in. Some looking ultimately Mongolian, some with as you call Nordic looks, and some with Mediterranean looks. The latter, as Lysozym already said, being the rulers of the Parthian empire. Scythians are a hard subject to write a good article about. However, the fact that they are of Iranian stock is, I think, the main assumption we should accept and continue working from that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LouisAragon (talk • contribs) 13:41, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
the problem with both yr views; however, is that the true, historically, textually attested "Scythians" are only those in Black Sea region , as attested by the Greeks. Others in Asia etc are not real Scythians - they were not called scythians, nor did they ever call themselves scythians. They are merely put generically under the label scythian because their material culture is broadly related, ie a part of broad "scytho-siberian complex". This has been more due to scholarly malaise than historical reality, and in anycase are all regionally different. The black sea (real ) scythians had nothing to do with those in Mongolia or Iran; they weren't one "nation" not even cousins. If you want to write about the Sakae or Mongolian nomads, then there are appropriate articles for them. So the added genetic info merely confirms what more recent archaeological evidence shows - that the scythians were natives of southern Russia , Ukraine and northern caucasus Slovenski Volk (talk) 03:27, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
And you whinge about Eurocentrism ?- the Scythians are European ! It is some G.I.'ist fanatics who keep linking the article to some non-existent link to Southern Asia. The Sakae are a totally different entitiy with their own history. THe only link with the Black Sea Scythians is a recycled ethonym used by the Greeks and Persians because they recycled names for people they perceived to be generally the same - nomads on their northern frontiers. Slovenski Volk (talk) 22:16, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
No, just because Herodotus named them Scythian, it still doesn't mean they are the only Scythians or whatever you want to call them as he (and later Greek authors), mainly concentrated on the nomads living in modern day Ukraine, not those who may had been related to them, for example in the east Also, just because they lived (those mentioned by the Greeks) at the edge of modern day Europe, it still doesn't mean you can call them European as a whole by any means, if that is what you are implying. Heck, those living in that area didn't even call themselves Scythian. It's just a term given by the Greeks, as the Persians did in the east calling them Sakae, apart from the fact that the Greek-called Scythians and Persian called-Sakae both spoke an Indo-Iranian language and sharing almost the same life style. Those Black Sea-Scythians called themselves 'Skudat' in their own Indo-Iranian language, but so did the Sakae.. Does that give enough reason to call them Iranian peoples? No. I don't agree with everything you stated here, but I kinda like your revision stated down below. Perhaps if more people give a reply to it, we can make an agreement for a good, well-argumented, scientific intro, instead of one that is changing every few days lol... — Preceding unsigned comment added by LouisAragon (talk • contribs) 14:29, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
15 May 2016 04:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Archive 4:
1 Sources & other views
2 Edit request on 1 April 2013 - Eurocentrism
3 "Greater Iran"
4 Consensus for the lead section: Iranian people or Iranian-speaking people
5 Recent changes, particularly to the number of brothers
6 DAB note
7 The Bible "reference"
8 Editing it to 'Iranian people'
9 Ordžonikidze or Yenakievo?
10 Biblical Reference to Scythian
11 Ishpaki = Ishvaku ??
12 Israelite or Slavic connection to Scythians
13 The Saka vs caucasians
14 Genetics of Scythian People
15 One of the etymology sections
16 External links section
17 Semi-protected edit request on 7 August 2014
18 Clothing
19 Discover Magazine Says Scythians Are Slavs, And/Or Mongols, Not Iranians
20 The Tree of Life symbol Balkans - Serbs
20.1 Clothing
21 Semi-protected edit request on 8 December 2014
22 States
23 Should there be further detail regarding the usage of the term, "Scythian" by the Romans?
24 Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2015
25 Iranic stock or just various tribes who shared same Iranic language?
26 Note to all editors: Edits on Lead section
27 Settled metal workers producing for the Scythians
Sources & other views
We need to get rid of encyclopedias, the BBC etc and stick to academic sources. Look at [1] and [2] and avoid old sources (some of which might have modern dates as they are reprints). If there are other views with reliable sources they should be included. I've tried to make this slight more tentative than it was. Please don't use sources that don't specifically mention Scythians. Dougweller (talk) 16:26, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
As for my reversion, my edit summary wasn't very good. I've read the article and can't see that it actually back the claim for which it was used as a source, and even if it did, that would not justify the article ignoring anything else. I await quotations from the article showing that it backs the text that was added. Dougweller (talk) 17:02, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
I searched and found the PDF file for that source. Search for the "Ancient DNA provides new insights into the history of south Siberian Kurgan people" and you can find the PDF file (full text). Review it and after that, we should decide for the lead section or other sections/parts of the article if necessary. Zheek (talk) 18:48, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
The Scythians were very likely related to the ancestors of modern Eastern Europeans, at least those in the far west. Even in classical sources, these Scythians are described as light-skinned and blond warriors. Other Scythians, especially those in Central Asia, were most likely more of a Mediterranean blend, perhaps also blending into Mongolid groups (in the far east; according to some scholars, i. e. P. Golden, the very first Turks - the Ashina - were an Iranian-speaking Scythian tribe). But that does not make them "Non-Iranian". They were still an Iranian people, very much like modern Ossetians. Genetics and language are not the same. The very first Indo-Europeans most likely resembeled modern Eastern Europeans. All specialist scholars agree that that the Balto-Slavic languages, especially the Lithuanian language, are the most conservative of the modern IE languages. Lithuanian has more similarities with ancient Sanskrit and Avestan than some modern Indo-Aryan and Iranian languages ("Anyone wishing to hear how Indo-Europeans spoke should come and listen to a Lithuanian peasant" - A. Meillet). Like almost all languages, the IE languages also spread as a political instrument, not as a genetic unity. Modern Iranian peoples are largely of the Mediterranean stock, blending also into Mongolid (Tajiks, Hazara), Negroid (Western Iran) and White European (Ossetians) groups at the borders of the Iranian world - they all inherited the Iranian languages from their ancestors who were not only part of the IE migration, but who were partailly conquered and assimilated by them. Modern Indo-Europeans are much more diverse. Remember that a modern Hazara is as much an Indo-European as modern Europeans and modern African-Americans. Genetics and language are not the same. --Lysozym (talk) 22:00, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
..and possibly having spoken ancient Iranic languages does not make them Iranian either - the latter is a modern, ethno-nationalist construct which did not exist in its current use in 750 BC. Thanks. Slovenski Volk (talk) 22:25, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
1 Sources & other views
2 Edit request on 1 April 2013 - Eurocentrism
3 "Greater Iran"
4 Consensus for the lead section: Iranian people or Iranian-speaking people
5 Recent changes, particularly to the number of brothers
6 DAB note
7 The Bible "reference"
8 Editing it to 'Iranian people'
9 Ordžonikidze or Yenakievo?
10 Biblical Reference to Scythian
11 Ishpaki = Ishvaku ??
12 Israelite or Slavic connection to Scythians
13 The Saka vs caucasians
14 Genetics of Scythian People
15 One of the etymology sections
16 External links section
17 Semi-protected edit request on 7 August 2014
18 Clothing
19 Discover Magazine Says Scythians Are Slavs, And/Or Mongols, Not Iranians
20 The Tree of Life symbol Balkans - Serbs
20.1 Clothing
21 Semi-protected edit request on 8 December 2014
22 States
23 Should there be further detail regarding the usage of the term, "Scythian" by the Romans?
24 Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2015
25 Iranic stock or just various tribes who shared same Iranic language?
26 Note to all editors: Edits on Lead section
27 Settled metal workers producing for the Scythians
Sources & other views
We need to get rid of encyclopedias, the BBC etc and stick to academic sources. Look at [1] and [2] and avoid old sources (some of which might have modern dates as they are reprints). If there are other views with reliable sources they should be included. I've tried to make this slight more tentative than it was. Please don't use sources that don't specifically mention Scythians. Dougweller (talk) 16:26, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
As for my reversion, my edit summary wasn't very good. I've read the article and can't see that it actually back the claim for which it was used as a source, and even if it did, that would not justify the article ignoring anything else. I await quotations from the article showing that it backs the text that was added. Dougweller (talk) 17:02, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
I searched and found the PDF file for that source. Search for the "Ancient DNA provides new insights into the history of south Siberian Kurgan people" and you can find the PDF file (full text). Review it and after that, we should decide for the lead section or other sections/parts of the article if necessary. Zheek (talk) 18:48, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
The Scythians were very likely related to the ancestors of modern Eastern Europeans, at least those in the far west. Even in classical sources, these Scythians are described as light-skinned and blond warriors. Other Scythians, especially those in Central Asia, were most likely more of a Mediterranean blend, perhaps also blending into Mongolid groups (in the far east; according to some scholars, i. e. P. Golden, the very first Turks - the Ashina - were an Iranian-speaking Scythian tribe). But that does not make them "Non-Iranian". They were still an Iranian people, very much like modern Ossetians. Genetics and language are not the same. The very first Indo-Europeans most likely resembeled modern Eastern Europeans. All specialist scholars agree that that the Balto-Slavic languages, especially the Lithuanian language, are the most conservative of the modern IE languages. Lithuanian has more similarities with ancient Sanskrit and Avestan than some modern Indo-Aryan and Iranian languages ("Anyone wishing to hear how Indo-Europeans spoke should come and listen to a Lithuanian peasant" - A. Meillet). Like almost all languages, the IE languages also spread as a political instrument, not as a genetic unity. Modern Iranian peoples are largely of the Mediterranean stock, blending also into Mongolid (Tajiks, Hazara), Negroid (Western Iran) and White European (Ossetians) groups at the borders of the Iranian world - they all inherited the Iranian languages from their ancestors who were not only part of the IE migration, but who were partailly conquered and assimilated by them. Modern Indo-Europeans are much more diverse. Remember that a modern Hazara is as much an Indo-European as modern Europeans and modern African-Americans. Genetics and language are not the same. --Lysozym (talk) 22:00, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
..and possibly having spoken ancient Iranic languages does not make them Iranian either - the latter is a modern, ethno-nationalist construct which did not exist in its current use in 750 BC. Thanks. Slovenski Volk (talk) 22:25, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
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Aside from those two, any account on a social networking site that says it is mine is an impostor.
I do not post on 4chan. I have nothing against it, and I have occasionally answered questions for interviews for 4chan, but any account there that says it is me is an impostor.
I reject Facebook and Google+ on principle because they require people to give their "real names". I am proud to identify myself when stating my views; I can afford to do that because I am in a fairly safe position. There are people who rationally fear reprisals (from employers, gangsters, bullies, or the state) if they state their views. For their sake, let's reject any social networking site which insists on being told a user's real name.
Google+ offers to hide the user's real name, but demands people prove an "established identity" or provide ID. I am suspicious of this requirement, since it can't hide the user's real name from the US government, which has a policy of prosecuting journalists as "spies".
Of course, Facebook is bad for many other reasons as well. Google+ also has another problem: the site requires running nonfree JavaScript code in order to post a message.
Some impostor created a Faceook account using my name. The page is not mine. The Google+ account using my name is also not mine.
People sometimes ask me to recommend an email service. The two ethical issues for an email service are (1) whether you can use it without running any nonfree software (including nonfree Javascript code from the site), and (2) whether it respects your privacy.
For issue 1, see the FSF's page. On issue 2, I have no way to verify that any email service is satisfactory. Therefore, I have no recommendation to offer.
However, I can suggest that it may be wise to use an email service that is not connected with your search engine. That way you can be almost sure that your email contents don't influence your search results. You shouldn't identify yourself to your search engine in any case.
Every product with Digital Restrictions Management (DRM) is an attack on your freedom.
Therefore, one should not buy or tolerate any product with DRM handcuffs unless one personally possesses the means to break the handcuffs. For instance, don't use encrypted DVDs unless you have DeCSS or another comparable free program. And never use a Bluray disk unless you find a way to break its handcuffs. Don't use the Amazon Swindle or other e-book readers that trample readers' freedoms. Don't use music or video streaming "services" that impose DRM. (If they require a nonfree client program, it is probably for DRM or some sort of surveillance of users.)
Return to Richard Stallman's home page.
Please send comments on these web pages to rms@gnu.org.
" Copyright (C) 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 Richard Stallman
Verbatim copying and distribution of this entire article is permitted in any medium, provided this notice is preserved. "
What if not ?
https://archive.is/o/Hwao7/stallman.org/index.html
15 May 2016 04:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"
I generally do not connect to web sites from my own machine, aside from a few sites I have some special relationship with. I fetch web pages from other sites by sending mail to a program (see git://git.gnu.org/womb/hacks.git) that fetches them, much like wget, and then mails them back to me. Then I look at them using a web browser, unless it is easy to see the text in the HTML page directly. I usually try lynx first, then a graphical browser if the page needs it.
I also browse from other people's computers, with their permission. Since I don't identify myself to the sites I visit, this browsing can't be connected with me.
One consequence of this method is that most of the survellance methods used on the Internet can't see me.
Another consequence is that I never pay for anything on the Web. Anything on the net that requires payment, I don't do.
I would not mind paying for a copy of an e-book or music recording on the Internet if I could do so anonymously, and it were ethical in other ways (no DRM or EULA). But that option almost never exists. I keep looking for ways to make it happen.
The most powerful programming language is Lisp. If you don't know Lisp (or its variant, Scheme), you don't know what it means for a programming language to be powerful and elegant. Once you learn Lisp, you will understand what is lacking in most other languages.
When you start a Lisp system, it enters a read-eval-print loop. Most other languages have nothing comparable to `read', nothing comparable to `eval', and nothing comparable to `print'. What gaping deficiencies!
Lisp is no harder to understand than other languages. So if you have never learned to program, and you want to start, start with Lisp. If you learn to edit with Emacs, you can learn Lisp by writing editing commands for Emacs. You can use the Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp to learn with: it is free as in freedom, and you can order printed copies from the FSF.
Please don't buy books (or anything) from Amazon!
My favorite programming languages are Lisp and C. However, since around 1992 I have worked mainly on free software activism, which means I am too busy to do much programming. Around 2008 I stopped doing programming projects. As a result, I have not had time or occasion to learn newer languages such as Perl, Python, PHP or Ruby.
I read a book about Java, and found it an elegant further development from C. But I have never used it. I did write some code in Java once, but the code was in C and Lisp (I simply happened to be in Java at the time).
By contrast, I find C++ quite ugly.
I skimmed documentation of Python after people told me it was fundamentally similar to Lisp. My conclusion is that that is not so. `read', `eval', and `print' are all missing in Python.
I firmly refuse to install non-free software or tolerate its installed presence on my computer or on computers set up for me.
However, if I am visiting somewhere and the machines available nearby happen to contain non-free software, through no doing of mine, I don't refuse to touch them. I will use them briefly for tasks such as browsing. This limited usage doesn't give my assent to the software's license, or make me responsible its being present in the computer, or make me the possessor of a copy of it, so I don't see an ethical obligation to refrain from this. Of course, I explain to the local people why they should migrate the machines to free software, but I don't push them hard, because annoying them is not the way to convince them.
Likewise, I don't need to worry about what software is in a kiosk, pay phone, or ATM that I am using. I hope their owners migrate them to free software, for their sake, but there's no need for me to refuse to touch them until then. (I do consider what those machines and their owners might do with my personal data, but that's a different issue, which would arise just the same even if they did use free software. My response to that issue is to minimize those activities which give them any data about me.)
That reasoning is based on the fact that I was not responsible for setting up those machines, or for how that was done. By contrast, if I were to ask or lead someone to set up a computer for me to use, that would make me ethically responsible for its software load. In such a case I insist on free software, just as if the machine were mine.
As for microwave ovens and other appliances, if updating software is not a normal part of use of the device, then it is not a computer. In that case, I think the user need not take cognizance of whether the device contains a processor and software, or is built some other way. However, if it has an "update firmware" button, that means installing software is a normal part of use, so it is a computer.
Skype (or any nonfree noninteroperable communication program) is a special case. Using Skype to talk with someone else who is using Skype is encouraging the other to use nonfree software. So I won't use it under any circumstances.
Streaming media dis-services such as Netflix and Spotify are another special case. They require nonfree client programs in order to impose Digital Restrictions Management (DRM ). We should never use DRM that we can't break, and I don't know how to break the DRM of these streaming systems, so I refuse to use them under any circumstances.
I sometimes use Google's search engine, and I sometimes use DuckDuckGo. When I use a search engine, it is always from a machine that isn't mine and that other people also use. I never identify myself to the site, of course.
I do not use social networking sites. They are inherently inconvenient for me. That doesn't mean I think they are all unethical. Some are, some are not. Social networking sites raise their own set of ethical issues, completely different from the ethical issues of distributing software (free vs proprietary).
I generally do not connect to web sites from my own machine, aside from a few sites I have some special relationship with. I fetch web pages from other sites by sending mail to a program (see git://git.gnu.org/womb/hacks.git) that fetches them, much like wget, and then mails them back to me. Then I look at them using a web browser, unless it is easy to see the text in the HTML page directly. I usually try lynx first, then a graphical browser if the page needs it.
I also browse from other people's computers, with their permission. Since I don't identify myself to the sites I visit, this browsing can't be connected with me.
One consequence of this method is that most of the survellance methods used on the Internet can't see me.
Another consequence is that I never pay for anything on the Web. Anything on the net that requires payment, I don't do.
I would not mind paying for a copy of an e-book or music recording on the Internet if I could do so anonymously, and it were ethical in other ways (no DRM or EULA). But that option almost never exists. I keep looking for ways to make it happen.
The most powerful programming language is Lisp. If you don't know Lisp (or its variant, Scheme), you don't know what it means for a programming language to be powerful and elegant. Once you learn Lisp, you will understand what is lacking in most other languages.
When you start a Lisp system, it enters a read-eval-print loop. Most other languages have nothing comparable to `read', nothing comparable to `eval', and nothing comparable to `print'. What gaping deficiencies!
Lisp is no harder to understand than other languages. So if you have never learned to program, and you want to start, start with Lisp. If you learn to edit with Emacs, you can learn Lisp by writing editing commands for Emacs. You can use the Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp to learn with: it is free as in freedom, and you can order printed copies from the FSF.
Please don't buy books (or anything) from Amazon!
My favorite programming languages are Lisp and C. However, since around 1992 I have worked mainly on free software activism, which means I am too busy to do much programming. Around 2008 I stopped doing programming projects. As a result, I have not had time or occasion to learn newer languages such as Perl, Python, PHP or Ruby.
I read a book about Java, and found it an elegant further development from C. But I have never used it. I did write some code in Java once, but the code was in C and Lisp (I simply happened to be in Java at the time).
By contrast, I find C++ quite ugly.
I skimmed documentation of Python after people told me it was fundamentally similar to Lisp. My conclusion is that that is not so. `read', `eval', and `print' are all missing in Python.
I firmly refuse to install non-free software or tolerate its installed presence on my computer or on computers set up for me.
However, if I am visiting somewhere and the machines available nearby happen to contain non-free software, through no doing of mine, I don't refuse to touch them. I will use them briefly for tasks such as browsing. This limited usage doesn't give my assent to the software's license, or make me responsible its being present in the computer, or make me the possessor of a copy of it, so I don't see an ethical obligation to refrain from this. Of course, I explain to the local people why they should migrate the machines to free software, but I don't push them hard, because annoying them is not the way to convince them.
Likewise, I don't need to worry about what software is in a kiosk, pay phone, or ATM that I am using. I hope their owners migrate them to free software, for their sake, but there's no need for me to refuse to touch them until then. (I do consider what those machines and their owners might do with my personal data, but that's a different issue, which would arise just the same even if they did use free software. My response to that issue is to minimize those activities which give them any data about me.)
That reasoning is based on the fact that I was not responsible for setting up those machines, or for how that was done. By contrast, if I were to ask or lead someone to set up a computer for me to use, that would make me ethically responsible for its software load. In such a case I insist on free software, just as if the machine were mine.
As for microwave ovens and other appliances, if updating software is not a normal part of use of the device, then it is not a computer. In that case, I think the user need not take cognizance of whether the device contains a processor and software, or is built some other way. However, if it has an "update firmware" button, that means installing software is a normal part of use, so it is a computer.
Skype (or any nonfree noninteroperable communication program) is a special case. Using Skype to talk with someone else who is using Skype is encouraging the other to use nonfree software. So I won't use it under any circumstances.
Streaming media dis-services such as Netflix and Spotify are another special case. They require nonfree client programs in order to impose Digital Restrictions Management (DRM ). We should never use DRM that we can't break, and I don't know how to break the DRM of these streaming systems, so I refuse to use them under any circumstances.
I sometimes use Google's search engine, and I sometimes use DuckDuckGo. When I use a search engine, it is always from a machine that isn't mine and that other people also use. I never identify myself to the site, of course.
I do not use social networking sites. They are inherently inconvenient for me. That doesn't mean I think they are all unethical. Some are, some are not. Social networking sites raise their own set of ethical issues, completely different from the ethical issues of distributing software (free vs proprietary).
15 May 2016 04:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
How I do my computing
I use a Lemote machine which has a free initialization program and a free operating system. One other advantage of this machine is that Windows has never supported it.
Before that, I used an OLPC for some weeks. I stopped because the OLPC project decided to make their machine support Windows, so I did not want to appear to endorse it. The OLPC uses a nonfree firmware blob for the WiFi, so I could not use the internal WiFi device. No big problem, I used an external one.
The results I worried about, millions of children running Windows on the OLPC, have not occurred. Instead we see millions of children running Windows on the Intel Classmate.
Before that I used machines that ran completely free GNU/Linux systems but had nonfree BIOSes. I tried for about 8 years to find a way to avoid the nonfree BIOS.
I do not have a preferred GNU/Linux distro. I recommend all the ethical distros — namely, those that are 100% free software.
I've chosen not to have any preferences among those ethical distros. But I am not in a position to judge them on other criteria: even to try them all would be a lot work that I have no need to do.
I occasionally use X11 for tasks that need graphics, but mostly I use a text console. I find that the text console is more efficient and convenient for the bulk of the work I do, which is editing text.
I spend most of my time editing in Emacs. I read and send mail with Emacs using M-x rmail and C-x m. I have no experience with any other email client programs. In principle I would be glad to know about other free email clients, but learning about them is not a priority for me and I don't have time.
I edit the pages on this site with Emacs also, although volunteer helpers install the political notes and urgent notes. I have no experience with other ways of maintaining web sites. In principle I would be glad to know about other ways, but learning about them is not a priority for me and I don't have time.
This site is maintained in a very simple way. I edit the pages such as this one manually as HTML. I only know simple HTML; others who know more wrote the parts at the top and bottom of pages, and the more complex formatting on the home page. Volunteer helpers install the political notes every day after receiving the text from me by email. A cron job "rolls over" the political notes page every two months.
I never used Unix (not even for a minute) until after I decided to develop a free replacement for it (the GNU system). I chose that design to follow because it was portable and seemed fairly clean. I was never a fan of Unix; I had some criticisms of it too. But it was ok overall as a model.
Why I coined the name POSIX.
I have used the Internet since it first existed. I never used UUCP, though occasionally I sent emails to addresses that involved transmission via UUCP. However, I am careful in how I use the Internet.
http://archive.is/Hwao7
I use a Lemote machine which has a free initialization program and a free operating system. One other advantage of this machine is that Windows has never supported it.
Before that, I used an OLPC for some weeks. I stopped because the OLPC project decided to make their machine support Windows, so I did not want to appear to endorse it. The OLPC uses a nonfree firmware blob for the WiFi, so I could not use the internal WiFi device. No big problem, I used an external one.
The results I worried about, millions of children running Windows on the OLPC, have not occurred. Instead we see millions of children running Windows on the Intel Classmate.
Before that I used machines that ran completely free GNU/Linux systems but had nonfree BIOSes. I tried for about 8 years to find a way to avoid the nonfree BIOS.
I do not have a preferred GNU/Linux distro. I recommend all the ethical distros — namely, those that are 100% free software.
I've chosen not to have any preferences among those ethical distros. But I am not in a position to judge them on other criteria: even to try them all would be a lot work that I have no need to do.
I occasionally use X11 for tasks that need graphics, but mostly I use a text console. I find that the text console is more efficient and convenient for the bulk of the work I do, which is editing text.
I spend most of my time editing in Emacs. I read and send mail with Emacs using M-x rmail and C-x m. I have no experience with any other email client programs. In principle I would be glad to know about other free email clients, but learning about them is not a priority for me and I don't have time.
I edit the pages on this site with Emacs also, although volunteer helpers install the political notes and urgent notes. I have no experience with other ways of maintaining web sites. In principle I would be glad to know about other ways, but learning about them is not a priority for me and I don't have time.
This site is maintained in a very simple way. I edit the pages such as this one manually as HTML. I only know simple HTML; others who know more wrote the parts at the top and bottom of pages, and the more complex formatting on the home page. Volunteer helpers install the political notes every day after receiving the text from me by email. A cron job "rolls over" the political notes page every two months.
I never used Unix (not even for a minute) until after I decided to develop a free replacement for it (the GNU system). I chose that design to follow because it was portable and seemed fairly clean. I was never a fan of Unix; I had some criticisms of it too. But it was ok overall as a model.
Why I coined the name POSIX.
I have used the Internet since it first existed. I never used UUCP, though occasionally I sent emails to addresses that involved transmission via UUCP. However, I am careful in how I use the Internet.
http://archive.is/Hwao7
http://archive.is/Hwao7
15 May 2016 04:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://archive.is/ohhRy
" For personal reasons, I do not browse the web from my computer. (I
also have not net connection much of the time.) To look at page I
send mail to a demon which runs wget and mails the page back to me.
It is very efficient use of my time, but it is slow in real time. "
" For personal reasons, I do not browse the web from my computer. (I
also have not net connection much of the time.) To look at page I
send mail to a demon which runs wget and mails the page back to me.
It is very efficient use of my time, but it is slow in real time. "
http://archive.is/ohhRy
15 May 2016 04:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
engineering for the Good :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tRKH_BSsk0&index=8&list=RDL41cCGnnjiw
To much TV is not good for you :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tRKH_BSsk0&index=8&list=RDL41cCGnnjiw
To much TV is not good for you :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tRKH_BSsk0&index=8&list=RDL41cCGnnjiw
15 May 2016 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
etc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDWIl3Pgy-A&list=RDL41cCGnnjiw&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDWIl3Pgy-A&list=RDL41cCGnnjiw&index=5
15 May 2016 04:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Pless play, on Backround music : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j9rJBXoYVg&index=4&list=RDL41cCGnnjiw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j9rJBXoYVg&index=4&list=RDL41cCGnnjiw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j9rJBXoYVg&index=4&list=RDL41cCGnnjiw
15 May 2016 03:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Allar Kaljundi see käsi siitmaalt ja varembi veel, et hoia siis alles : )
Marelle Nõmm: On ikka, oleneb kuidas.. :)
Marelle Nõmm: On ikka, oleneb kuidas.. :)
15 May 2016 03:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu0l-Ac7fTU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu0l-Ac7fTU
15 May 2016 01:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPbAXKMCDkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPbAXKMCDkY
15 May 2016 01:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WipM3SAYqK4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WipM3SAYqK4
15 May 2016 01:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/522805/lenovo-thinkpad-t510-bios-computrace-by-absolute-software/
http://www.freakyacres.com/remove_computrace_lojack
http://www.win-raid.com/t8f16-BIOS-Modding-Introduction-and-Preparations.html
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/44785-I-present-you-a-tool-to-decompress-Dell-UEFI-BIOS?p=750992
https://github.com/bibanon/Coreboot-ThinkPads/wiki/Other-Custom-BIOSes
http://www.freakyacres.com/remove_computrace_lojack
http://www.win-raid.com/t8f16-BIOS-Modding-Introduction-and-Preparations.html
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/44785-I-present-you-a-tool-to-decompress-Dell-UEFI-BIOS?p=750992
https://github.com/bibanon/Coreboot-ThinkPads/wiki/Other-Custom-BIOSes
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/522805/lenovo-thinkpad-t510-bios-computrace-by-absolute-software/
14 May 2016 23:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
14 May 2016 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Spware and other access people even afraid to mention..
"Stallman launched the GNU Project in September 1983 to create a Unix-like computer operating system composed entirely of free software.[2] With this, he also launched the free software movement. He has been the GNU project's lead architect and organizer, and developed a number of pieces of widely used GNU software "
"In 1989 he co-founded the League for Programming Freedom. Since the mid-1990s, Stallman has spent most of his time advocating for free software, as well as campaigning against software patents, digital rights management, and other legal and technical systems which he sees as taking away users' freedoms, including software license agreements, non-disclosure agreements, activation keys, dongles, copy restriction, proprietary formats and binary executables without source code.
As of 2016, he has received fifteen honorary doctorates and professorships"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc
"Stallman launched the GNU Project in September 1983 to create a Unix-like computer operating system composed entirely of free software.[2] With this, he also launched the free software movement. He has been the GNU project's lead architect and organizer, and developed a number of pieces of widely used GNU software "
"In 1989 he co-founded the League for Programming Freedom. Since the mid-1990s, Stallman has spent most of his time advocating for free software, as well as campaigning against software patents, digital rights management, and other legal and technical systems which he sees as taking away users' freedoms, including software license agreements, non-disclosure agreements, activation keys, dongles, copy restriction, proprietary formats and binary executables without source code.
As of 2016, he has received fifteen honorary doctorates and professorships"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc
14 May 2016 22:00
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
this is not freedom, this is perversion that needs to be medicated, only sick and commies who desire to kill a nature would promote this kind of "freedom"
as people whit dirty words and actions desire
as people whit dirty words and actions desire
14 May 2016 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://moviesonhacking.com/most-dangerous-hackers/
http://moviesonhacking.com/most-dangerous-hackers/
12 May 2016 18:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Scythians were not iranians
They were not "iranians" or indians, some of them become iranian and indo-europeans after part of them come to Iran, India and Europe much later. So, word "iranians" is not correct at all. They had proto-indo-iranian or proto-indo-european and proto-aryans language. This theory is based on Kurgan hypothesis and Yamna culture. Yamna peoples have spreaded own languages from own territory to rest of the Europe, India and Iran 183.89.196.19 (talk) 08:47, 24 June 2015 (UTC) Unfluenty conculusion !! Foundation and Arguments are cildish...! You can´t change the history becaus you are afraid from the facts!Kurgan and all the founded articels are belonging turkic ancients.. If you say i don´t accept that, this is your pour vision only! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:810C:840:E40:18BD:54C5:6508:C606 (talk) 23:27, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
There is solid evidence, in addition to linguistic and historical, that Scythians were an Iranian people, and have origins on the Iranians plateau. In recent years, compelling evidence has supported the origin of genetic Haplogroup R1a is Eastern Iran. The descendant group R1a1, is well established as a Scythian Marker. So as far as genetics supports, Scyths came from Iran.2601:882:100:D7B0:3CD9:3E01:463A:B1D2 (talk) 13:39, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Scythians were from CENTRAL ASIA, not Iran and they were defintely Iranian people. Also R1a originates from either central asia or india and not iran. Akmal94 (talk) 06:18, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Rus ethnic relation to scythians.
I believe there is an issue with the following paragraph in the article:
"Byzantine sources also refer to the Rus raiders who attacked Constantinople circa 860 in contemporary accounts as "Tauroscythians", because of their geographical origin, and despite their lack of any ethnic relation to Scythians. Patriarch Photius may have first applied the term to them during the Siege of Constantinople (860)."
It consists of two parts. One part is the referencing of Rus as Tauroscythians by the Byzantine. Second part is the claim that Rus lack any ethnic relation to Scythians. Both of these statements require citations.
The first part is rather well known and numerous sources indicate this, for instance [1] mentions this.
The second part in a way contradicts the rest of the article itself, since Scythians are said to be assimilated by Slavs, hence to Byzantines Rus indeed might have ethnically appear to be Scythian. In the very least the statement requires citation and seems rather strong given the other well cited portions of the article.
(Petver29 (talk) 18:22, 30 January 2016 (UTC))
They were not "iranians" or indians, some of them become iranian and indo-europeans after part of them come to Iran, India and Europe much later. So, word "iranians" is not correct at all. They had proto-indo-iranian or proto-indo-european and proto-aryans language. This theory is based on Kurgan hypothesis and Yamna culture. Yamna peoples have spreaded own languages from own territory to rest of the Europe, India and Iran 183.89.196.19 (talk) 08:47, 24 June 2015 (UTC) Unfluenty conculusion !! Foundation and Arguments are cildish...! You can´t change the history becaus you are afraid from the facts!Kurgan and all the founded articels are belonging turkic ancients.. If you say i don´t accept that, this is your pour vision only! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:810C:840:E40:18BD:54C5:6508:C606 (talk) 23:27, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
There is solid evidence, in addition to linguistic and historical, that Scythians were an Iranian people, and have origins on the Iranians plateau. In recent years, compelling evidence has supported the origin of genetic Haplogroup R1a is Eastern Iran. The descendant group R1a1, is well established as a Scythian Marker. So as far as genetics supports, Scyths came from Iran.2601:882:100:D7B0:3CD9:3E01:463A:B1D2 (talk) 13:39, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Scythians were from CENTRAL ASIA, not Iran and they were defintely Iranian people. Also R1a originates from either central asia or india and not iran. Akmal94 (talk) 06:18, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Rus ethnic relation to scythians.
I believe there is an issue with the following paragraph in the article:
"Byzantine sources also refer to the Rus raiders who attacked Constantinople circa 860 in contemporary accounts as "Tauroscythians", because of their geographical origin, and despite their lack of any ethnic relation to Scythians. Patriarch Photius may have first applied the term to them during the Siege of Constantinople (860)."
It consists of two parts. One part is the referencing of Rus as Tauroscythians by the Byzantine. Second part is the claim that Rus lack any ethnic relation to Scythians. Both of these statements require citations.
The first part is rather well known and numerous sources indicate this, for instance [1] mentions this.
The second part in a way contradicts the rest of the article itself, since Scythians are said to be assimilated by Slavs, hence to Byzantines Rus indeed might have ethnically appear to be Scythian. In the very least the statement requires citation and seems rather strong given the other well cited portions of the article.
(Petver29 (talk) 18:22, 30 January 2016 (UTC))
12 May 2016 13:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Guys all I see are two guys who are simply uncomfortable with the reality and facts, established and accepted by the whole reliable scientific world, and try to hide your own ethnocentric egoism by declaring or accusing others of being ethnocentric. Not only did non of you adress my point that there is not really an issue with the designation Iranian nomads because it describes their ethno-linguistic heritage. The only reason I see why you guys favor the designation "Eurasian nomads" (a simple geographic designation) over Iranian nomads. What they basically are accept by all big scientific libraries. I only see two individuals here so sensitive about anything what could "drag" the Scythian into a direction which would distan remove them further from their preffered ethnicities, that they even feel uncomfortable about widely accepted Scythian part strains such as the Sarmatians (despite this group even being mentioned in the article already!).
But ok. Wikipedia is the only place where you guys can believe and distribute your own fairy tails to other people since really non scientific encylopedia would agree on those claims of people from various modern ethnicities such as Turks, Slavs or whoever.
And while we are on it. Why stop here? Why not change the Vikings article from "Germanic Norse seafareras" to "Scandinavian or European Seaferars". Since I have seen people claim the Vikings for being actually Slavs or even Turks have I heard! I mean if any claim can cause a dispute over ethnic designation why not start to question the ethnicity of everyone? Are the Romans really Latin? Maybe the Celts were Africans!!
It's getting too ridiculous here. Signing and out Wikisupporting (talk) 23:57, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
And for the last time. I didn't change it to Iranian nomads nor was it my purpose. I simply took the first best version which had still my added genetic papers on it. Maybe I catched up some version which had this. "Iranian Nomad" on it. But Iranian or Eurasian nomad isn't something so big for me to be bothered about. But it seems to bother you guys.
Wikisupporting (talk) 00:00, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes, we know all you care about is spamming your primary research! Johnbod (talk) 03:31, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
If your intention was to add your preferred genetic papers, then you could have taken the care only to include that, and to check what more you added or changed. You make a big deal out of something you say is not a big deal. Incuding unwarranted ad hominem attacks. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 03:52, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
At 23 september 2015 16:14 you reverted John's removal the genetics-info; at 23 september 2015 23:16 you re-inserted the "Iranian nomads" phrase. That's two different edits. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 13:34, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
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Sources 2 and three were still left to be checked. Funny, they were accessed at 16 and 18 january 2015. The topic seems to be a longer standing issue.
ad 2: Waldman, Carl; Mason, Catherine (2006). Encyclopedia of European Peoples. Infobase Publishing. ISBN 1438129181. Retrieved January 16, 2015. pp=719–724 - Unfortuanelty I can't access p.219. p.720 says: "[The Scythians] and the Sarmatians, who spoke a related language, have been referred to as European Iranians."
ad 3: West, Barbara A. (January 1, 2009). Encyclopedia of the Peoples of Asia and Oceania. Infobase Publishing. ISBN 1438119135. Retrieved January 18, 2015. pp=713–717 - p.713: "...the Scythians, whom the Greek knew on the Pontic steppes north of the Black Sea. The same ethnonym has been used by scholars for centuries to refer to many different Indo-Iranian speaking nomads of the Eurasian steppes..." The same page also says "Ancestry: Indo-Iranian, Indo-European more generally."
NB: the article gives three possible origins for the Scyths, from "eastern Iranian" to "a whole host of otherwise unrelated peoples sharing only certain similarities in lifestyle (nomadism), cultural practices and language." So, what can we conclude? Not so much, except that it's save to say that the Scythians were Iranian speaking Eurasian nomads. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 13:55, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Another source:
Esther Jacobson (1995), The Art of the Scythians: The Interpenetration of Cultures at the Edge of the Hellenic World, BRILL:
p.29: "a subdivision within the larger group of Scytho-Siberian early nomads"
p.29: "emerged from the Bronze Age cultures that dominated Siberia, Kazahkstan and the Russina steppe region"
p.32: "by the time the Pontic scythians settled in the region of the Black sea, they almost certainly spoke an Iranian language and had mixed significantly with Iranian peoples."
Iranians did not originate in Siberia, did they? Given your statement "Virtually 99% of the reliable sources and scientists label the Scythians as Eurasian nomads of the East Iranic branch", I'm looking forward to those 99 reliable sources which clearly state that the Scythians were East-Iranians. Google Books gives only 48 hits... Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 14:14, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
But ok. Wikipedia is the only place where you guys can believe and distribute your own fairy tails to other people since really non scientific encylopedia would agree on those claims of people from various modern ethnicities such as Turks, Slavs or whoever.
And while we are on it. Why stop here? Why not change the Vikings article from "Germanic Norse seafareras" to "Scandinavian or European Seaferars". Since I have seen people claim the Vikings for being actually Slavs or even Turks have I heard! I mean if any claim can cause a dispute over ethnic designation why not start to question the ethnicity of everyone? Are the Romans really Latin? Maybe the Celts were Africans!!
It's getting too ridiculous here. Signing and out Wikisupporting (talk) 23:57, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
And for the last time. I didn't change it to Iranian nomads nor was it my purpose. I simply took the first best version which had still my added genetic papers on it. Maybe I catched up some version which had this. "Iranian Nomad" on it. But Iranian or Eurasian nomad isn't something so big for me to be bothered about. But it seems to bother you guys.
Wikisupporting (talk) 00:00, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes, we know all you care about is spamming your primary research! Johnbod (talk) 03:31, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
If your intention was to add your preferred genetic papers, then you could have taken the care only to include that, and to check what more you added or changed. You make a big deal out of something you say is not a big deal. Incuding unwarranted ad hominem attacks. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 03:52, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
At 23 september 2015 16:14 you reverted John's removal the genetics-info; at 23 september 2015 23:16 you re-inserted the "Iranian nomads" phrase. That's two different edits. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 13:34, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
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Sources 2 and three were still left to be checked. Funny, they were accessed at 16 and 18 january 2015. The topic seems to be a longer standing issue.
ad 2: Waldman, Carl; Mason, Catherine (2006). Encyclopedia of European Peoples. Infobase Publishing. ISBN 1438129181. Retrieved January 16, 2015. pp=719–724 - Unfortuanelty I can't access p.219. p.720 says: "[The Scythians] and the Sarmatians, who spoke a related language, have been referred to as European Iranians."
ad 3: West, Barbara A. (January 1, 2009). Encyclopedia of the Peoples of Asia and Oceania. Infobase Publishing. ISBN 1438119135. Retrieved January 18, 2015. pp=713–717 - p.713: "...the Scythians, whom the Greek knew on the Pontic steppes north of the Black Sea. The same ethnonym has been used by scholars for centuries to refer to many different Indo-Iranian speaking nomads of the Eurasian steppes..." The same page also says "Ancestry: Indo-Iranian, Indo-European more generally."
NB: the article gives three possible origins for the Scyths, from "eastern Iranian" to "a whole host of otherwise unrelated peoples sharing only certain similarities in lifestyle (nomadism), cultural practices and language." So, what can we conclude? Not so much, except that it's save to say that the Scythians were Iranian speaking Eurasian nomads. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 13:55, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Another source:
Esther Jacobson (1995), The Art of the Scythians: The Interpenetration of Cultures at the Edge of the Hellenic World, BRILL:
p.29: "a subdivision within the larger group of Scytho-Siberian early nomads"
p.29: "emerged from the Bronze Age cultures that dominated Siberia, Kazahkstan and the Russina steppe region"
p.32: "by the time the Pontic scythians settled in the region of the Black sea, they almost certainly spoke an Iranian language and had mixed significantly with Iranian peoples."
Iranians did not originate in Siberia, did they? Given your statement "Virtually 99% of the reliable sources and scientists label the Scythians as Eurasian nomads of the East Iranic branch", I'm looking forward to those 99 reliable sources which clearly state that the Scythians were East-Iranians. Google Books gives only 48 hits... Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 14:14, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
12 May 2016 13:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Iranian nomads
I don't know very much about the Scythians, but I do know something about Wiki-behaviour. Talkpages can be telling in that respect. Pushing "Iranian nomads" instead of "Eurasian nomads" is also a telling sign. Maybe we can have a look at the sources:
1: "Scythian". Encyclopædia Britannica Online. Retrieved 31 December 2014.
2: Waldman, Carl; Mason, Catherine (2006). Encyclopedia of European Peoples. Infobase Publishing. ISBN 1438129181. Retrieved January 16, 2015. pp=719–724
3: West, Barbara A. (January 1, 2009). Encyclopedia of the Peoples of Asia and Oceania. Infobase Publishing. ISBN 1438119135. Retrieved January 18, 2015. pp=713–717
4: "Scythia". Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia. Columbia University Press. Retrieved 16 May 2015.
5: "Saka". TheFreeDictionary.com. Great Soviet Encyclopedia. 1979. Retrieved 24 May 2014.
6: Sinor, Denis (1990). The Cambridge History of Early Inner Asia. Cambridge. ISBN 978-0-521-24304-9. p=97 "All contemporary historians, archeologists and linguists are agreed that since the Scythian and Sarmatian tribes were of the Iranian linguistic group..."
ad1: "Scythian [...] member of a nomadic people, originally of Iranian stock" - no references; what is "of Iranian stock"? Quite unspecific.
ad4: "They spoke an Indo-Iranian language but had no system of writing. They were nomadic conquerors and skilled horsemen." - speaks for itself. And seems to copy Wikipedia...
ad5: "the name of Iranian-speaking tribes, mostly nomadic" - copies Wikipedia.
ad6: the quote does no say "Iranian nomads," but "of the Iranian linguistic group".
I'll leave the books to John; I've seen enough. Clear POV-pushing. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:06, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
As you acknowledge yourself. You don't seem to know much about Scythians. There are indeed inscriptions of Khotanese Scythian language in West China. Those were indeed analysed. So you are wrong in that case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saka_language
Herodotus accounts mention Sogdians as descend of Scythians. Sogdian was also analysed and just as the Khotanese insciription identified as Eastern Iranian. Herodotus mentions Sarmatians as descend or related tribe to Scythians speaking Scythian language themselves. And also this, just like the descend the Alans and Ossetians are identified as Eastern Iranian language. So let this linguists who understand these things decide.
Also even most of the sources you posted above clearly mention Scythian as belonging to the Eastern branch of the Iranian family.
Even more hilarious how you use the designation "Eurasian Stepppe nomads" as contrast of them being an Iranian tribe as if it is impossible to be both at once. But considering that you don't know much about the Steppic and Iranic history (as you admitted yourself) it must be big news for you that the Eastern Iranian branch were Eurasian nomads. I think it isn't even clear for some people here what Eurasian means.
Virtually 99% of the reliable sources and scientists label the Scythians as Eurasian nomads of the East Iranic branch. We aren't here to please the nationalistic feelings of individuals from various nationalities. And from what I am seing John seems to be simply uncomfortable with the genetic results rather than the source, since the other sources of the genetic section are also mostly Russian. So I don't see the problem here.
Wikisupporting (talk) 14:13, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
You changed "Eurasian nomads" into "Iranian nomads". So if there is no contrast, why did you hide "Eurasian nomads"? The sources above are the sources you've added; at least two of them are problematic, since they are copies of Wikipedia. A little bit disappointing, if "Virtually 99% of the reliable sources and scientists label the Scythians as Eurasian nomads of the East Iranic branch." Surely you must be able to find better sources. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 20:54, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Sir don't excuse me of things I didn't do. The change of Eurasian nomads to Iranian nomads happened far before I edited anything. I simply changed it back to the version before Johnbod removed my genetic sources. Also I don't see all the fuss about Iranian vs Eurasian nomads. Thats like arguing about "Germanic Vikings" and "Scandinavian Vikings" Both are correct. The one is simply pointing out their geographic location, the other their ethno-linguistic heritage.
Wikisupporting (talk) 12:36, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Actually if you look at the history you didn't change it to the old version. The ethno-linguistic heritage of most of them, probably, depending on which of the many available definitions are used. That's the point. Johnbod (talk) 15:44, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
@Johnbod: your edit of 8 september 2015 undid this edit of 1 march 2015 by Krakkos, right? Seems like a correct revert to me. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 19:07, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I didn't realize the "Iranian" version had survived so long. The version I went back to was agreed, more or less, way back, and the new references were not strong, and not entirely supporting the text he had anyway. Nobody (except the Turks, Chinese etc) is denying that most of the Scythians, especially in the Western end of the steppes, spoke Iranian languages and were predominantly of "Iranian" stock, but to say they all were is much more than we know. People might ask themselves where the Turkish peoples suddenly appeared from, not to mention the situation at the East Asian end. Johnbod (talk) 01:06, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
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I don't know very much about the Scythians, but I do know something about Wiki-behaviour. Talkpages can be telling in that respect. Pushing "Iranian nomads" instead of "Eurasian nomads" is also a telling sign. Maybe we can have a look at the sources:
1: "Scythian". Encyclopædia Britannica Online. Retrieved 31 December 2014.
2: Waldman, Carl; Mason, Catherine (2006). Encyclopedia of European Peoples. Infobase Publishing. ISBN 1438129181. Retrieved January 16, 2015. pp=719–724
3: West, Barbara A. (January 1, 2009). Encyclopedia of the Peoples of Asia and Oceania. Infobase Publishing. ISBN 1438119135. Retrieved January 18, 2015. pp=713–717
4: "Scythia". Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia. Columbia University Press. Retrieved 16 May 2015.
5: "Saka". TheFreeDictionary.com. Great Soviet Encyclopedia. 1979. Retrieved 24 May 2014.
6: Sinor, Denis (1990). The Cambridge History of Early Inner Asia. Cambridge. ISBN 978-0-521-24304-9. p=97 "All contemporary historians, archeologists and linguists are agreed that since the Scythian and Sarmatian tribes were of the Iranian linguistic group..."
ad1: "Scythian [...] member of a nomadic people, originally of Iranian stock" - no references; what is "of Iranian stock"? Quite unspecific.
ad4: "They spoke an Indo-Iranian language but had no system of writing. They were nomadic conquerors and skilled horsemen." - speaks for itself. And seems to copy Wikipedia...
ad5: "the name of Iranian-speaking tribes, mostly nomadic" - copies Wikipedia.
ad6: the quote does no say "Iranian nomads," but "of the Iranian linguistic group".
I'll leave the books to John; I've seen enough. Clear POV-pushing. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:06, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
As you acknowledge yourself. You don't seem to know much about Scythians. There are indeed inscriptions of Khotanese Scythian language in West China. Those were indeed analysed. So you are wrong in that case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saka_language
Herodotus accounts mention Sogdians as descend of Scythians. Sogdian was also analysed and just as the Khotanese insciription identified as Eastern Iranian. Herodotus mentions Sarmatians as descend or related tribe to Scythians speaking Scythian language themselves. And also this, just like the descend the Alans and Ossetians are identified as Eastern Iranian language. So let this linguists who understand these things decide.
Also even most of the sources you posted above clearly mention Scythian as belonging to the Eastern branch of the Iranian family.
Even more hilarious how you use the designation "Eurasian Stepppe nomads" as contrast of them being an Iranian tribe as if it is impossible to be both at once. But considering that you don't know much about the Steppic and Iranic history (as you admitted yourself) it must be big news for you that the Eastern Iranian branch were Eurasian nomads. I think it isn't even clear for some people here what Eurasian means.
Virtually 99% of the reliable sources and scientists label the Scythians as Eurasian nomads of the East Iranic branch. We aren't here to please the nationalistic feelings of individuals from various nationalities. And from what I am seing John seems to be simply uncomfortable with the genetic results rather than the source, since the other sources of the genetic section are also mostly Russian. So I don't see the problem here.
Wikisupporting (talk) 14:13, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
You changed "Eurasian nomads" into "Iranian nomads". So if there is no contrast, why did you hide "Eurasian nomads"? The sources above are the sources you've added; at least two of them are problematic, since they are copies of Wikipedia. A little bit disappointing, if "Virtually 99% of the reliable sources and scientists label the Scythians as Eurasian nomads of the East Iranic branch." Surely you must be able to find better sources. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 20:54, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Sir don't excuse me of things I didn't do. The change of Eurasian nomads to Iranian nomads happened far before I edited anything. I simply changed it back to the version before Johnbod removed my genetic sources. Also I don't see all the fuss about Iranian vs Eurasian nomads. Thats like arguing about "Germanic Vikings" and "Scandinavian Vikings" Both are correct. The one is simply pointing out their geographic location, the other their ethno-linguistic heritage.
Wikisupporting (talk) 12:36, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Actually if you look at the history you didn't change it to the old version. The ethno-linguistic heritage of most of them, probably, depending on which of the many available definitions are used. That's the point. Johnbod (talk) 15:44, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
@Johnbod: your edit of 8 september 2015 undid this edit of 1 march 2015 by Krakkos, right? Seems like a correct revert to me. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 19:07, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I didn't realize the "Iranian" version had survived so long. The version I went back to was agreed, more or less, way back, and the new references were not strong, and not entirely supporting the text he had anyway. Nobody (except the Turks, Chinese etc) is denying that most of the Scythians, especially in the Western end of the steppes, spoke Iranian languages and were predominantly of "Iranian" stock, but to say they all were is much more than we know. People might ask themselves where the Turkish peoples suddenly appeared from, not to mention the situation at the East Asian end. Johnbod (talk) 01:06, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
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12 May 2016 13:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sir you do know that It is not even clear if Andronovo is Proto_Scythian and this assumption is merely based on hypothesis? So why is there even a section dedicated to genes with Adronovo and Pazyryk samples in it ( Both not even clear if Scythian)?
I quote from Wikipedia. The Sarmatians (Latin: Sarmatæ or Sauromatæ, Greek: Σαρμάται, Σαυρομάται) were a large confederation[1] of Iranian people during classical antiquity,[2][3] flourishing from about the 5th century BC to the 4th century AD.[4] They spoke Scythian, an Indo-European language from the Eastern Iranian family.
What does speaking a Scythian language mean to you may I ask?
"consist entirely of nonsense] (rendering of all the Russian characters). "
I don't know if simply not understanding or trolling. The paper is scientific from the archeological center of Moscow. The only nonsense I see here is your deliberated attempt to dismiss a scientific source. Genetics is nothing theoretical it is pure science. Wikisupporting (talk) 14:05, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
I've explained I thought it was pure nonsense, which is what the all-Russian characters look like in a diff. If you had formatted the ref properly, and translated the names, this would not have been the case. You entirely misunderstand my actions and my views. Johnbod (talk) 14:34, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
I thought the statement "The reference is the Institute of Archaeology in Moscow" in my first comment above would have been clear enough. That this is not just simply some "pseudo refference but a real scientific source recently published. And those are not the only samples. There are going to be another 100 of them belonging to various Steppic and North Caucasian groups. I hope when I publish them hear we don't need to go all over this again.
signing out 37.201.154.171 (talk) 20:35, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
I quote from Wikipedia. The Sarmatians (Latin: Sarmatæ or Sauromatæ, Greek: Σαρμάται, Σαυρομάται) were a large confederation[1] of Iranian people during classical antiquity,[2][3] flourishing from about the 5th century BC to the 4th century AD.[4] They spoke Scythian, an Indo-European language from the Eastern Iranian family.
What does speaking a Scythian language mean to you may I ask?
"consist entirely of nonsense] (rendering of all the Russian characters). "
I don't know if simply not understanding or trolling. The paper is scientific from the archeological center of Moscow. The only nonsense I see here is your deliberated attempt to dismiss a scientific source. Genetics is nothing theoretical it is pure science. Wikisupporting (talk) 14:05, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
I've explained I thought it was pure nonsense, which is what the all-Russian characters look like in a diff. If you had formatted the ref properly, and translated the names, this would not have been the case. You entirely misunderstand my actions and my views. Johnbod (talk) 14:34, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
I thought the statement "The reference is the Institute of Archaeology in Moscow" in my first comment above would have been clear enough. That this is not just simply some "pseudo refference but a real scientific source recently published. And those are not the only samples. There are going to be another 100 of them belonging to various Steppic and North Caucasian groups. I hope when I publish them hear we don't need to go all over this again.
signing out 37.201.154.171 (talk) 20:35, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
12 May 2016 13:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I'm not uncomfortable with the genetic results as far as they go, but they don't go very far. As your text makes clear, both are from single sites of burials of people who would not normally be called Scythians, even on broader definitions. In one case the burials were nearly 1,000 years after the (variously dated) end of the "Scythians". In Western European archaeology, which many editors will be more familiar with, that sort of evidence would never be extended in this way. Not being able to read Russian, I don't know what claims the sources actually make. There are two mini-disputes here: one linguistic and one genetic. These two factors should not be conflated - you speak English (more or less) - does that make you genetically English? Your interpretations of my meanings and understanding are just all wrong. Johnbod (talk) 14:34, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Dear John even by 600 AD Scythic groups still existed Central Asia by the name Saka. To understand the "difference" between Scythians and Sarmatians or Sogdians for that matter someone needs to understand the linguistic chronology of the Iranic languages.
As Scythians were people of East Iranic origin reffered to who lived in the Eurasian Steppes, South_Central Asia and parts of West Asia and East Europe. This Scythian language is, beside Massagetaen language the main representative of East Iranic languages of the Old Iranic period. Those Scythian tribes started to diverge and became tribes of their own, known as Sogdians and Sarmatians for example. Those people spoke Scythic dialects of the middle Iranic period. And today the only East Iranic branches descend of those middle Iranic groups, which in return are descend of the old Iranic branch of Scythian, are the Yaghnobi and Ossetians.
This relationship is like the relationship between Old Persian of the Old Iranic period, middle (Sassanian) Persian of the middle Iranic Period and modern Farsi of the new Iranic period.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Iranian_languages
For further clarification see here. It is for a reason that Sarmatian is called Scytho_Sarmatian in linguistic classifications.
But for the sake of staying professional. If you want, you can remove it I am not going to hunt after it. but just take in mind that you are not helping it by removing articles which might be very usefull in understanding the origin and role these people played.
Wikisupporting (talk) 23:52, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
All that covers most of them no doubt, though the evidence is far less clear than you suggest as to who spoke what when, since they left no writing, but that is true of all the peoples that may be called Scythian or Scythic is more than anybody knows. The articles won't be at all helpful to anyone who doesn't read Russian, which is nearly all our readership! I am more concerned at your reversion in the lead. The later peoples have their own articles. Please note that you have a clear conflict of interest in writing up your own research. Johnbod (talk) 03:24, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
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Dear John even by 600 AD Scythic groups still existed Central Asia by the name Saka. To understand the "difference" between Scythians and Sarmatians or Sogdians for that matter someone needs to understand the linguistic chronology of the Iranic languages.
As Scythians were people of East Iranic origin reffered to who lived in the Eurasian Steppes, South_Central Asia and parts of West Asia and East Europe. This Scythian language is, beside Massagetaen language the main representative of East Iranic languages of the Old Iranic period. Those Scythian tribes started to diverge and became tribes of their own, known as Sogdians and Sarmatians for example. Those people spoke Scythic dialects of the middle Iranic period. And today the only East Iranic branches descend of those middle Iranic groups, which in return are descend of the old Iranic branch of Scythian, are the Yaghnobi and Ossetians.
This relationship is like the relationship between Old Persian of the Old Iranic period, middle (Sassanian) Persian of the middle Iranic Period and modern Farsi of the new Iranic period.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Iranian_languages
For further clarification see here. It is for a reason that Sarmatian is called Scytho_Sarmatian in linguistic classifications.
But for the sake of staying professional. If you want, you can remove it I am not going to hunt after it. but just take in mind that you are not helping it by removing articles which might be very usefull in understanding the origin and role these people played.
Wikisupporting (talk) 23:52, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
All that covers most of them no doubt, though the evidence is far less clear than you suggest as to who spoke what when, since they left no writing, but that is true of all the peoples that may be called Scythian or Scythic is more than anybody knows. The articles won't be at all helpful to anyone who doesn't read Russian, which is nearly all our readership! I am more concerned at your reversion in the lead. The later peoples have their own articles. Please note that you have a clear conflict of interest in writing up your own research. Johnbod (talk) 03:24, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Iranian_languages
12 May 2016 13:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
This thread concerns this revert of 23 september 2015 14:01 on the genetics of Alanic, Sarmatian-Alan and Saltovo-Mayaki burials, and this revert of 23 september 2015 19.15 on "Iranian nomads" versus "Eurasian nomads."
Explanation on nomads, reply on genetics
Re this, one can reference any number of different positions to RS, partly because (as the article goes on to explain) there are any number of definitions of what peoples "Scythians" covers, and we know very little about any of them, and the differences between them. So the initial definition should be broad - there are almost certainly people described as "Scythian" who did not speak Indo-European languages at all. Editors exhibiting strong nationalist tendencies, whether Iranian, Turkish, Chinese, Russian, Indian, Polish or Romanian (all nations capable of claiming the Scythians, or a slice of them), can expect to be rebuffed unceremoniously. The references used were mostly not specialist. Johnbod (talk) 18:01, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
"The references used were mostly not specialist. "
Is that some kind of bad joke? The reference is the Institute of Archaeology in Moscow. How is that not specialist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikisupporting (talk • contribs) 21:22, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
What kind of argument is this? Since when has genetic material anything to do with the "origin-dispute" of Scythians? Certanly this is no excuse for the recent removal of sources. It is a well known and accepted fact in the scientific world. That Sarmatians-ALans are a Scythic people (speaking a Scythic language). It is a well known accepted fact in the scientific world that Scythians are by definition an East Iranic speaking nomadic people. Everything else is mere nationalistic speculation. Only because someone claims the world is flat doesn't mean the "roundness" of the world is disputed.
Also those are scientific papers recently published about Scythic (Sarmatian-Alan) genetic material and they belong here under the genetic section because they have not even anything to do with the dispute of Scythic origin. If they don't belong here why does a genetic section even exist? And why are other scientific sources from Russia used if Russian sources are "not specialist enough" by your definition?
I will add the scientific papers back. And if you mean you have to change it because you don't feel comfortable about genetic SCIENCE. Than contact and Admin and we can talk about this "dispute".
Wikisupporting (talk) 21:14, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure we are talking about the same edits. I was adressing this, which I reverted. Nothing to do with genetics. But many definitions of Scythian include people who were probably not East Iranic speaking. Bringing "Scythic (Sarmatian-Alan)" into it complicates matters still further. Please learn to format references properly, and ideally translate Russian titles. Also this is propably primary research. Do you have secondary sources? Johnbod (talk) 00:03, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Genetics: Alanic, Sarmatian-Alan and Saltovo-Mayaki burials
I see what happened - I did revert your genetics edit, because it appeared to consist entirely of nonsense (rendering of all the Russian characters). When I looked again I reverted myself, but you must have alreadty reverted, so this does not show in the history. Having said all that, Alans are not Scythians (or perhaps not Scythians), & I question whether material on them belongs here. Johnbod (talk) 03:01, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Explanation on nomads, reply on genetics
Re this, one can reference any number of different positions to RS, partly because (as the article goes on to explain) there are any number of definitions of what peoples "Scythians" covers, and we know very little about any of them, and the differences between them. So the initial definition should be broad - there are almost certainly people described as "Scythian" who did not speak Indo-European languages at all. Editors exhibiting strong nationalist tendencies, whether Iranian, Turkish, Chinese, Russian, Indian, Polish or Romanian (all nations capable of claiming the Scythians, or a slice of them), can expect to be rebuffed unceremoniously. The references used were mostly not specialist. Johnbod (talk) 18:01, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
"The references used were mostly not specialist. "
Is that some kind of bad joke? The reference is the Institute of Archaeology in Moscow. How is that not specialist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikisupporting (talk • contribs) 21:22, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
What kind of argument is this? Since when has genetic material anything to do with the "origin-dispute" of Scythians? Certanly this is no excuse for the recent removal of sources. It is a well known and accepted fact in the scientific world. That Sarmatians-ALans are a Scythic people (speaking a Scythic language). It is a well known accepted fact in the scientific world that Scythians are by definition an East Iranic speaking nomadic people. Everything else is mere nationalistic speculation. Only because someone claims the world is flat doesn't mean the "roundness" of the world is disputed.
Also those are scientific papers recently published about Scythic (Sarmatian-Alan) genetic material and they belong here under the genetic section because they have not even anything to do with the dispute of Scythic origin. If they don't belong here why does a genetic section even exist? And why are other scientific sources from Russia used if Russian sources are "not specialist enough" by your definition?
I will add the scientific papers back. And if you mean you have to change it because you don't feel comfortable about genetic SCIENCE. Than contact and Admin and we can talk about this "dispute".
Wikisupporting (talk) 21:14, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure we are talking about the same edits. I was adressing this, which I reverted. Nothing to do with genetics. But many definitions of Scythian include people who were probably not East Iranic speaking. Bringing "Scythic (Sarmatian-Alan)" into it complicates matters still further. Please learn to format references properly, and ideally translate Russian titles. Also this is propably primary research. Do you have secondary sources? Johnbod (talk) 00:03, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Genetics: Alanic, Sarmatian-Alan and Saltovo-Mayaki burials
I see what happened - I did revert your genetics edit, because it appeared to consist entirely of nonsense (rendering of all the Russian characters). When I looked again I reverted myself, but you must have alreadty reverted, so this does not show in the history. Having said all that, Alans are not Scythians (or perhaps not Scythians), & I question whether material on them belongs here. Johnbod (talk) 03:01, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
12 May 2016 13:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
If Scythian is just a broad name for Eurasian nomads, why...?
Why this article does not clarify it or expand it further?
Section: Origins > Archaeology > Third paragraph > Completely unsourced.
Greeks and Persians called all nomads Scythian. Can someone add a comparison section? We want to read about those various tribes. Their similarities and differences.
And why those different tribes spoke an Iranian language? The reason to choose it as their lingua franca?
A lot of rants and debates on this talk page; e.g. typical Scythians were ... or Scythians were NOT .... Does this article miss some details? Or those ranters are a normal part of wikipedia?! If those ranters are right about their claims, why the article does not solve it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.106.187.135 (talk) 17:46, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Short answer: nobody knows. Johnbod (talk) 18:02, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Scythians, Indo-European migrations, and contemporary historiography
The Scythians are hardly mentioned at Indo-European migrations and Indo-Aryan migration theory. Anybody cares to change this?
As an aside: there seems to be a major lacune in the coverage of Euarasian history: the focus on city-empires, and the neglect of the nomadic people. I've got several historical atlasses in my library, and none of them has a separate section, or maps, on the Indo-European migrations. It's only thanks to my editing at Wikipedia that I found out how important their place in history is.Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:41, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Those articles mostly cover events (theories of events) before the Scythian grouping formed, which is generally taken to be some time after 1000 BC. Like the Celts, the Scythians are neglected because they couldn't write and very little is known about them. Compared to settled peoples they left relatively little for archeology, though some of what they left is spectacular, and sources for attempts at a political history come only from their literate and usually hostile neighbours. Johnbod (talk) 15:43, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Why this article does not clarify it or expand it further?
Section: Origins > Archaeology > Third paragraph > Completely unsourced.
Greeks and Persians called all nomads Scythian. Can someone add a comparison section? We want to read about those various tribes. Their similarities and differences.
And why those different tribes spoke an Iranian language? The reason to choose it as their lingua franca?
A lot of rants and debates on this talk page; e.g. typical Scythians were ... or Scythians were NOT .... Does this article miss some details? Or those ranters are a normal part of wikipedia?! If those ranters are right about their claims, why the article does not solve it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.106.187.135 (talk) 17:46, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Short answer: nobody knows. Johnbod (talk) 18:02, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Scythians, Indo-European migrations, and contemporary historiography
The Scythians are hardly mentioned at Indo-European migrations and Indo-Aryan migration theory. Anybody cares to change this?
As an aside: there seems to be a major lacune in the coverage of Euarasian history: the focus on city-empires, and the neglect of the nomadic people. I've got several historical atlasses in my library, and none of them has a separate section, or maps, on the Indo-European migrations. It's only thanks to my editing at Wikipedia that I found out how important their place in history is.Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:41, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Those articles mostly cover events (theories of events) before the Scythian grouping formed, which is generally taken to be some time after 1000 BC. Like the Celts, the Scythians are neglected because they couldn't write and very little is known about them. Compared to settled peoples they left relatively little for archeology, though some of what they left is spectacular, and sources for attempts at a political history come only from their literate and usually hostile neighbours. Johnbod (talk) 15:43, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
12 May 2016 13:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Why the "admins" are so afraid of discussions?
I can be seen "from the Skies" tht the admins are so afraid by possible discussions of the historical topics, that they often prefer more to lock the pages, or erase the talks, than to provide arguments for their "thesis"...? :) --90.154.151.101 (talk) 19:50, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
the talk entries are archived - all the old rants can be found by following the links at the top of the page. Johnbod (talk) 15:18, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
Correction to statement referencing Footnote #35
In reference to the statement with footnote #35, I disagree with the Wiki. The writers of Colossians 3:11 are explaining the idea that there is no discrimination, so opposites are compared: "The new self allows no room for discriminating between Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all."
So, from that statement, Scythians would be considered the opposite of barbarians.
Therefore, the Scythians referred to in Col 3:11, are most likely the Royal Scyths, mentioned earlier in the Wiki ("Based in Crimea the western Scythians were ruled by a wealthy class known as the Royal Scyths. The Scythians established and controlled a vast trade network connecting Greece, Persia, India and China, perhaps contributing to the contemporary flourishing of those civilizations"). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.161.98.130 (talk) 18:03, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
"Physical Appearance" Section Cites White Supremacist Organization
Every portion of the "Physical Appearance" section which details accounts of the actual appearance of Scythians themselves (not groups purpotedly related to them) uses [64] as a citation, which uses a white supremacist organization as a source (Institute for the Study of Man). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chanakya Volume 2 (talk • contribs) 05:25, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
I can be seen "from the Skies" tht the admins are so afraid by possible discussions of the historical topics, that they often prefer more to lock the pages, or erase the talks, than to provide arguments for their "thesis"...? :) --90.154.151.101 (talk) 19:50, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
the talk entries are archived - all the old rants can be found by following the links at the top of the page. Johnbod (talk) 15:18, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
Correction to statement referencing Footnote #35
In reference to the statement with footnote #35, I disagree with the Wiki. The writers of Colossians 3:11 are explaining the idea that there is no discrimination, so opposites are compared: "The new self allows no room for discriminating between Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all."
So, from that statement, Scythians would be considered the opposite of barbarians.
Therefore, the Scythians referred to in Col 3:11, are most likely the Royal Scyths, mentioned earlier in the Wiki ("Based in Crimea the western Scythians were ruled by a wealthy class known as the Royal Scyths. The Scythians established and controlled a vast trade network connecting Greece, Persia, India and China, perhaps contributing to the contemporary flourishing of those civilizations"). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.161.98.130 (talk) 18:03, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
"Physical Appearance" Section Cites White Supremacist Organization
Every portion of the "Physical Appearance" section which details accounts of the actual appearance of Scythians themselves (not groups purpotedly related to them) uses [64] as a citation, which uses a white supremacist organization as a source (Institute for the Study of Man). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chanakya Volume 2 (talk • contribs) 05:25, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
12 May 2016 13:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Non-sequiturs in the Classical Antiquity section
This section:
" The Olanesti treasure is unique in Europe. Discovered in the 1960 the artefacts are dated to the 5th century BC. The treasure contain six helmets, five greaves and an oil lamp. All the pieces are from the army of the Alexander The Great under Zopyrion command "
does not make sense. Pieces dated to 5th century BCE (500-400 BCE) cannot also belong to the army of Alexander, who was not born until 356 and did not take the throne until 336 BCE. The last "sentence" here runs straight into the next:
"All the pieces are from the army of the Alexander The Great under Zopyrion command By the time of Strabo's account (the first decades AD), the Crimean Scythians had created a new kingdom extending from the lower Dnieper to the Crimea."
I am not going to attempt to fix this. The last time I tried to correct a grammatical error I got banned for "trolling". I know NOTHING about Wiki politics or customs. I do however like articles to make sense. And I can't even figure out what the writer(s) intended here, except that nobody named Zopyrion commanded troops under Alexander (I spent a decade researching the man), and I would wager that the name is Skythian due to its similarity to some Skythian names I've seen in classical histories. So it looks like there should be a period after "Alexander the Great" and "under Zypyrion command" may be left over from something that has been deleted.
2600:1003:B850:7B0:3426:EFA4:9188:8CB9 (talk) 00:32, 23 August 2015 (UTC)Cynndara Morgan (No, I'm not going to start an account because I don't have time to absorb dozens of pages of etiquette guides and then play politics. I'm a writer, not a politician.)
Thanks for spotting this. The sentence was introduced about a year ago without a source [1]. I've removed it for the time being, pending further investigation. Of course, the problem could simply be a mistake of saying "5th" instead of "4th". There does seem to have been a guy named Zopyrion who led a Macedonian army against the Thracians in Alexander's time. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:24, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
This section:
" The Olanesti treasure is unique in Europe. Discovered in the 1960 the artefacts are dated to the 5th century BC. The treasure contain six helmets, five greaves and an oil lamp. All the pieces are from the army of the Alexander The Great under Zopyrion command "
does not make sense. Pieces dated to 5th century BCE (500-400 BCE) cannot also belong to the army of Alexander, who was not born until 356 and did not take the throne until 336 BCE. The last "sentence" here runs straight into the next:
"All the pieces are from the army of the Alexander The Great under Zopyrion command By the time of Strabo's account (the first decades AD), the Crimean Scythians had created a new kingdom extending from the lower Dnieper to the Crimea."
I am not going to attempt to fix this. The last time I tried to correct a grammatical error I got banned for "trolling". I know NOTHING about Wiki politics or customs. I do however like articles to make sense. And I can't even figure out what the writer(s) intended here, except that nobody named Zopyrion commanded troops under Alexander (I spent a decade researching the man), and I would wager that the name is Skythian due to its similarity to some Skythian names I've seen in classical histories. So it looks like there should be a period after "Alexander the Great" and "under Zypyrion command" may be left over from something that has been deleted.
2600:1003:B850:7B0:3426:EFA4:9188:8CB9 (talk) 00:32, 23 August 2015 (UTC)Cynndara Morgan (No, I'm not going to start an account because I don't have time to absorb dozens of pages of etiquette guides and then play politics. I'm a writer, not a politician.)
Thanks for spotting this. The sentence was introduced about a year ago without a source [1]. I've removed it for the time being, pending further investigation. Of course, the problem could simply be a mistake of saying "5th" instead of "4th". There does seem to have been a guy named Zopyrion who led a Macedonian army against the Thracians in Alexander's time. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:24, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
12 May 2016 13:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Scythians were not a Iranian, were a Turkic people. Madyas (talk) 22:48, 20 February 2015 (UTC) They were not "iranians", some of them become iranian after they come to Iran and India much later. So, word "iranians" is not correct at all. They are Proto-Indo-Iranian language or proto-indo-europians or protoaryans183.89.196.19 (talk) 08:27, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
That is a very minority view among scholars. Johnbod (talk) 00:36, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
No, just the opposite. Scythians were Turk accordin to generally accepted opinion. Madyas (talk) 08:32, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
No, they just weren't! sources? That is not to say that some people described, either in ancient times or in modern sources, as "Scythian" were not Turcic. The term is a very elastic one, as the article tries to make clear. Johnbod (talk) 15:46, 21 February 2015 (UTC) Johnbod (talk) 14:19, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Scythians were Turkic according to Oxford. Madyas (talk) 15:42, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Why should one listen to a nationalist who has no reliable sources with him and only likes to make disruptive edits? exactly. --HistoryofIran (talk) 17:37, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Hey Iranian boy, "HistoryofIran" username, he is not a nationalist, not only all Turkish historians, I mean all Turks (I mean not only Turkey Turks, all Turkic peoples) believes the "Turkic" theory. But we are used to hearing these lies from Wikipedia lie "encyclopedia". For example, there is no "Turko-Persian" or "Persianate" Turkic khaganate, empire in Iran in history. But ridiculous thing that Wikipedia creates something popular in Iran or Europe, but not Turkic countries, if it suit for your freaking interests, you show us "Oxford" or etc. sources, but if not, "No, why we listen a nationalist?" Really? Give me a break... KARA (talk) 13:07, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
"you show us "Oxford" or etc."
René Grousset, The Empire of the Steppes: A History of Central Asia, Rutgers University Press, 7;"Modern linguists believe that the Scythians should be classified as an Iranian people— an Indo-European family.."
Bruce Lincoln, Death, War, and Sacrifice: Studies in Ideology & Practice, University of Chicago Press, 202;"Insofar as the Scythians were an Iranian people..."
Sarah Iles Johnston, Religions of the Ancient World: A Guide, Harvard University Press, 302;"...to the ritual use of hemp smoke among the Scythians (a non-Zoroastrian Iranian people)..".
John Van Antwerp Fine, The Early Medieval Balkans, University of Michigan Press, 307;"Scythians: An Iranian people which dominated the Steppes during the first millennium B.C..
David Schimmelpenninck van der Oye, Russian Orientalism: Asia in the Russian Mind from Peter the Great to the Emigration, Yale University Press, 13;"The first to enter recorded history in some detail were the Scythians, an Iranian people whom the fifth century B.C.E.".
Paul R. Magocsi, A History of Ukraine: The Land and Its Peoples, University of Toronto Press, 29;" The Scythians actually formed a branch of the Iranian people....
Christopher I. Beckwith, Empires of the Silk Road, Princeton University Press, 61;"The Scythians were a Northern Iranian people."
Introduction, Ann Farkas, The Metropolitan Museum of Art Bulletin, New Series, Vol. 32, No. 5, From the Lands of the Scythians: Ancient Treasures from the Museums of the U.S.S.R. 3000 B.C.-100 B.C. (1973 - 1974), 8;"The Scythians were an Iranian -speaking people , one of many groups of nomads who dominated the Eurasian steppes during the first millennium B.C."
Iranians and Slavs in South Russia, A. Kalmykow, Journal of the American Oriental Society, Vol. 45 (1925), 68;"...was the discovery that the Scythian and Sarmatian tribes, who are the first historically identified inhabitants of South Russia, belong to the Iranian branch of the Indo-European family and form the Western part of the Iranians." --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:21, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Let us compare modern scholarship with historical authors who linked Herodotus’ Scythians with various Turkic tribes (like Huns, Turks, Khazars etc.).
• Zosimus: "Unns are Royal Scythians".
• Menander Protector: "Turks, in antiquity called Sakas".
• Procopius of Caesarea: "peoples called in antiquity Cimmerians, now are called Utigurs".
• Theophanes the Confessor: "Scythians, who also are named Unns", "Turks, in antiquity called Massagets".
• Rus Primary Chronicle: "from Scythians, i.e. Khazars, came so-called Bolgars".
Between 400 and 1500 A.D. Byzantine sources call Σκΰθαι - Skuthai - twelve different Turkic peoples (G. Moravcsik, Byzantinoturcica II, p.236-39). How comes Scythians are now considered Iranian. I think this is a good question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gokhan Su (talk • contribs) 07:54, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Did Ataturk himself discover all these stuff or was it invented later on in Ankara after his death?
It is very simple and very often done in the history, by the fabricators: Till 1650, the term "turks" / "turckik" meant ENTIRELY other people/languages.
Good night! --90.154.151.101 (talk) 19:53, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
That is a very minority view among scholars. Johnbod (talk) 00:36, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
No, just the opposite. Scythians were Turk accordin to generally accepted opinion. Madyas (talk) 08:32, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
No, they just weren't! sources? That is not to say that some people described, either in ancient times or in modern sources, as "Scythian" were not Turcic. The term is a very elastic one, as the article tries to make clear. Johnbod (talk) 15:46, 21 February 2015 (UTC) Johnbod (talk) 14:19, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Scythians were Turkic according to Oxford. Madyas (talk) 15:42, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Why should one listen to a nationalist who has no reliable sources with him and only likes to make disruptive edits? exactly. --HistoryofIran (talk) 17:37, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Hey Iranian boy, "HistoryofIran" username, he is not a nationalist, not only all Turkish historians, I mean all Turks (I mean not only Turkey Turks, all Turkic peoples) believes the "Turkic" theory. But we are used to hearing these lies from Wikipedia lie "encyclopedia". For example, there is no "Turko-Persian" or "Persianate" Turkic khaganate, empire in Iran in history. But ridiculous thing that Wikipedia creates something popular in Iran or Europe, but not Turkic countries, if it suit for your freaking interests, you show us "Oxford" or etc. sources, but if not, "No, why we listen a nationalist?" Really? Give me a break... KARA (talk) 13:07, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
"you show us "Oxford" or etc."
René Grousset, The Empire of the Steppes: A History of Central Asia, Rutgers University Press, 7;"Modern linguists believe that the Scythians should be classified as an Iranian people— an Indo-European family.."
Bruce Lincoln, Death, War, and Sacrifice: Studies in Ideology & Practice, University of Chicago Press, 202;"Insofar as the Scythians were an Iranian people..."
Sarah Iles Johnston, Religions of the Ancient World: A Guide, Harvard University Press, 302;"...to the ritual use of hemp smoke among the Scythians (a non-Zoroastrian Iranian people)..".
John Van Antwerp Fine, The Early Medieval Balkans, University of Michigan Press, 307;"Scythians: An Iranian people which dominated the Steppes during the first millennium B.C..
David Schimmelpenninck van der Oye, Russian Orientalism: Asia in the Russian Mind from Peter the Great to the Emigration, Yale University Press, 13;"The first to enter recorded history in some detail were the Scythians, an Iranian people whom the fifth century B.C.E.".
Paul R. Magocsi, A History of Ukraine: The Land and Its Peoples, University of Toronto Press, 29;" The Scythians actually formed a branch of the Iranian people....
Christopher I. Beckwith, Empires of the Silk Road, Princeton University Press, 61;"The Scythians were a Northern Iranian people."
Introduction, Ann Farkas, The Metropolitan Museum of Art Bulletin, New Series, Vol. 32, No. 5, From the Lands of the Scythians: Ancient Treasures from the Museums of the U.S.S.R. 3000 B.C.-100 B.C. (1973 - 1974), 8;"The Scythians were an Iranian -speaking people , one of many groups of nomads who dominated the Eurasian steppes during the first millennium B.C."
Iranians and Slavs in South Russia, A. Kalmykow, Journal of the American Oriental Society, Vol. 45 (1925), 68;"...was the discovery that the Scythian and Sarmatian tribes, who are the first historically identified inhabitants of South Russia, belong to the Iranian branch of the Indo-European family and form the Western part of the Iranians." --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:21, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Let us compare modern scholarship with historical authors who linked Herodotus’ Scythians with various Turkic tribes (like Huns, Turks, Khazars etc.).
• Zosimus: "Unns are Royal Scythians".
• Menander Protector: "Turks, in antiquity called Sakas".
• Procopius of Caesarea: "peoples called in antiquity Cimmerians, now are called Utigurs".
• Theophanes the Confessor: "Scythians, who also are named Unns", "Turks, in antiquity called Massagets".
• Rus Primary Chronicle: "from Scythians, i.e. Khazars, came so-called Bolgars".
Between 400 and 1500 A.D. Byzantine sources call Σκΰθαι - Skuthai - twelve different Turkic peoples (G. Moravcsik, Byzantinoturcica II, p.236-39). How comes Scythians are now considered Iranian. I think this is a good question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gokhan Su (talk • contribs) 07:54, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Did Ataturk himself discover all these stuff or was it invented later on in Ankara after his death?
It is very simple and very often done in the history, by the fabricators: Till 1650, the term "turks" / "turckik" meant ENTIRELY other people/languages.
Good night! --90.154.151.101 (talk) 19:53, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
12 May 2016 13:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Survival of Scythian/Sarmatian langauge into the 1890s in Crimea[edit]
In the 1880s and 90s, when German philologists were combing through Crimea and the Ukraine, looking for various Germanic people--Goths or otherwise--that may have survived the ages, came across a few settlements in Crimea where the folks were using mysterious language(s) that at a closer examination, proved to be the modern-time survivors of the ancient Scytho-Sarmatian. Their records show that the language(s) were close to those of modern Ossetians (the only related people to Scythians/Sarmatians to survive into the present day). There were much Slavic and Turkic importation, but clearly these/this surviving language(s) was Scytho-Sarmatian Aryan/Iranic. in grammar and structure. Seemingly, that is that last time anyone encountered Scytho-Sarmatians in their ancient Crimean habitat...
An exhaustive, scientific article about this appeared about 20 years ago in the US. Would anyone has more information on this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:c6a5:1700:21f:5bff:fee9:91aa (talk • contribs) 23:42, 26 July 2015
Add Armenian, Greek, and New Persian transliterations[edit]
(Old Persian: Sakā; New Persian: ساکا Saka; Greek: Σάκαι Sakai; Armenian: սկյութները Skyout'nerə; Latin: Sacae, Sanskrit: शक Śaka), and Sai (Chinese: 塞; Old Chinese: *sˤək), respectively.
In the 1880s and 90s, when German philologists were combing through Crimea and the Ukraine, looking for various Germanic people--Goths or otherwise--that may have survived the ages, came across a few settlements in Crimea where the folks were using mysterious language(s) that at a closer examination, proved to be the modern-time survivors of the ancient Scytho-Sarmatian. Their records show that the language(s) were close to those of modern Ossetians (the only related people to Scythians/Sarmatians to survive into the present day). There were much Slavic and Turkic importation, but clearly these/this surviving language(s) was Scytho-Sarmatian Aryan/Iranic. in grammar and structure. Seemingly, that is that last time anyone encountered Scytho-Sarmatians in their ancient Crimean habitat...
An exhaustive, scientific article about this appeared about 20 years ago in the US. Would anyone has more information on this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:c6a5:1700:21f:5bff:fee9:91aa (talk • contribs) 23:42, 26 July 2015
Add Armenian, Greek, and New Persian transliterations[edit]
(Old Persian: Sakā; New Persian: ساکا Saka; Greek: Σάκαι Sakai; Armenian: սկյութները Skyout'nerə; Latin: Sacae, Sanskrit: शक Śaka), and Sai (Chinese: 塞; Old Chinese: *sˤək), respectively.
12 May 2016 13:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Assertion: Scythians were Eurasian Nomads[edit]
This sentence is tough to digest:
"Eurasian nomads who were mentioned by the literate peoples surrounding them as inhabiting large areas in the central Eurasian steppes from about the 9th century BC until about the 1st century BC."
A few thoughts:
- "Eurasian" is not a BCE term, it's an AD term. There is no justification to use the Scythians in the same context of Eurasian because they are not the same and could not be because of time. The Scythians are ancient people from 9th century BCE and the Eurasians were/are 19th century people. The Eurasian and Scythians cannot be one in the same when they existed 28 centuries apart. It is reasonable to refer to the Scythians (if that's right) as the ancestors of Eurasians, but it is not logical to suggest they are the same people.
- "Europeans" are not automatically Scythian. The Greeks are the real Europeans in BCE terms. The Scythians and Greeks while both ancient people are not the same. In fact, the Greeks, who initially called themselves European, attached the "European" label to the inhabitants of the lands of antiquities that stretched from Greece to Sicily. So, the use of "Eurasian" in the context of the Scythians seems inappropriate.
- I searched the book on Google to see if I could find the use of "Eurasian nomads" and found "nomad". "Eurasian" used in the book usually referred to the Steppe (which seems to be used in a BCE context with Eurasian).
Scythians were just nomads. The Steppe is just the Steppe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Othelllo (talk • contribs) 18:15, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
Eurasia is a geographical term, not limited by date. I've no idea what you mean by "the Eurasians were/are 19th century people" at all. It makes no sense, at least in English. Johnbod (talk) 12:52, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Ok, I get it - you mean Eurasian (mixed ancestry) people. But that is not the main meaning of the term, which refers to the continents of Asia and Europe. Johnbod (talk) 12:55, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
This sentence is tough to digest:
"Eurasian nomads who were mentioned by the literate peoples surrounding them as inhabiting large areas in the central Eurasian steppes from about the 9th century BC until about the 1st century BC."
A few thoughts:
- "Eurasian" is not a BCE term, it's an AD term. There is no justification to use the Scythians in the same context of Eurasian because they are not the same and could not be because of time. The Scythians are ancient people from 9th century BCE and the Eurasians were/are 19th century people. The Eurasian and Scythians cannot be one in the same when they existed 28 centuries apart. It is reasonable to refer to the Scythians (if that's right) as the ancestors of Eurasians, but it is not logical to suggest they are the same people.
- "Europeans" are not automatically Scythian. The Greeks are the real Europeans in BCE terms. The Scythians and Greeks while both ancient people are not the same. In fact, the Greeks, who initially called themselves European, attached the "European" label to the inhabitants of the lands of antiquities that stretched from Greece to Sicily. So, the use of "Eurasian" in the context of the Scythians seems inappropriate.
- I searched the book on Google to see if I could find the use of "Eurasian nomads" and found "nomad". "Eurasian" used in the book usually referred to the Steppe (which seems to be used in a BCE context with Eurasian).
Scythians were just nomads. The Steppe is just the Steppe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Othelllo (talk • contribs) 18:15, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
Eurasia is a geographical term, not limited by date. I've no idea what you mean by "the Eurasians were/are 19th century people" at all. It makes no sense, at least in English. Johnbod (talk) 12:52, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Ok, I get it - you mean Eurasian (mixed ancestry) people. But that is not the main meaning of the term, which refers to the continents of Asia and Europe. Johnbod (talk) 12:55, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
12 May 2016 13:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
To the above (on reply) :
"Eurasian nomads" attempts to tell the modern reader, in an appropriately vague way, where these people lived, and the sort of lifestyle they followed. Your complaints about this I found so bizarre I had to comment.
I am guessing (hoping!) English is not your first language. Neither is it mine so do not blame your faulty logic on that. Lots of tripe is written over Scythians these days, and yours is not the worst, certainly. Perhaps you are a young person who can be steered correctly.
- Do not complain about an intentionally vague phrase unless you have an alternative which does the same job. "Eurasian" at least tells people that Scythians did not live in Iowa or Kenya. "Steppe" - a Ukrainian word meaning "grassy field" or "pasture". It is as generic as "forest" or "desert". The implication would be that the Scythians ceased to be Scythians upon entering forests or mountains, yet any nomad in any field is a Scythian. ("Nomad" itself comes from a Greek word meaning the same thing as "steppe").
- Do not lie. "Steppe" was never used by any ancient writer to describe anywhere in Europe or Asia, much less both of them together. You have no evidence that it is "authentic" to a "BCE context" (?) and you'll never find any. Anyway, as I've told you it a topographical descriptor, not a geographic one. No-one would read "steppe" and think "oh, Europe and Asia!" The word spread after it was borrowed by French writers as an exoticism in the 19th century after the anti-Napoleon powers (including many cossacks) occupied Paris. ("Bistro" spread the exact same way).
- Do not write garbage. There was never an ethnic group called "Eurasians" and simply because the word was coined in the 19th century does not mean a bunch of people suddenly sprang up calling themselves that. "European" and "Asian" are vague enough but at least you don't have to live in two continents simultaneously.
- Do not make statements like "the Greeks are the real Europeans" while claiming that Scythians are "logically" the ancestors of Europeans while thinking it necessary to point out that Greeks are not Scythians.
- Do not conflate geographical or linguistic terms with ethnic names. Don't disregard them, either, unless you have some kind of racialist or nationalist motive for doing so. "Europe" and "Asia" have no accepted etymologies and were used by the ancients as very vague geographical terms. The Greeks call themselves "Hellenes" wherever they are, not "Europeans". Many of them - including Herodotus, who wrote virtually everything known about the Scythians which has survived - came from Asia or Egypt or elsewhere. The term was actually considered rather inexplicable and was derived (maybe?) from a Phoenician lady mention by Homer. It means "wide-eyed" in Greek. How it stuck to a whole continent is a mystery and same thing with Asia.
- Do not end your diatribes with statements like "X is just X, Z is just Z". Such statements may seem confident, and are a time-tested rhetorical formula to end arguments. That may still work in front of a biased audience when delivered with a bit of swagger. Written down they are much more obviously the thought-terminating cliche you may or may not have intended it to be.
- Do not attempt to fake a familiarity with the ancients. Especially at he same time you are parroting vague modern theories ("the Scythians are 9th century BC"...) as if you have any expertise or discernment.
- Do not accuse a word of being misleading on the basis of being somehow anachronistic. These are articles, not historical fiction. If "Eurasian nomads" is tough to digest because it is an "AD term", please notify your intestines that histories are going to be full of such terms when written in an AD language like English. Would you recommend Wikipedia re-write things for a BC audience? Hopefully not. 73.190.90.235 (talk) 11:51, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Why
"Eurasian nomads" attempts to tell the modern reader, in an appropriately vague way, where these people lived, and the sort of lifestyle they followed. Your complaints about this I found so bizarre I had to comment.
I am guessing (hoping!) English is not your first language. Neither is it mine so do not blame your faulty logic on that. Lots of tripe is written over Scythians these days, and yours is not the worst, certainly. Perhaps you are a young person who can be steered correctly.
- Do not complain about an intentionally vague phrase unless you have an alternative which does the same job. "Eurasian" at least tells people that Scythians did not live in Iowa or Kenya. "Steppe" - a Ukrainian word meaning "grassy field" or "pasture". It is as generic as "forest" or "desert". The implication would be that the Scythians ceased to be Scythians upon entering forests or mountains, yet any nomad in any field is a Scythian. ("Nomad" itself comes from a Greek word meaning the same thing as "steppe").
- Do not lie. "Steppe" was never used by any ancient writer to describe anywhere in Europe or Asia, much less both of them together. You have no evidence that it is "authentic" to a "BCE context" (?) and you'll never find any. Anyway, as I've told you it a topographical descriptor, not a geographic one. No-one would read "steppe" and think "oh, Europe and Asia!" The word spread after it was borrowed by French writers as an exoticism in the 19th century after the anti-Napoleon powers (including many cossacks) occupied Paris. ("Bistro" spread the exact same way).
- Do not write garbage. There was never an ethnic group called "Eurasians" and simply because the word was coined in the 19th century does not mean a bunch of people suddenly sprang up calling themselves that. "European" and "Asian" are vague enough but at least you don't have to live in two continents simultaneously.
- Do not make statements like "the Greeks are the real Europeans" while claiming that Scythians are "logically" the ancestors of Europeans while thinking it necessary to point out that Greeks are not Scythians.
- Do not conflate geographical or linguistic terms with ethnic names. Don't disregard them, either, unless you have some kind of racialist or nationalist motive for doing so. "Europe" and "Asia" have no accepted etymologies and were used by the ancients as very vague geographical terms. The Greeks call themselves "Hellenes" wherever they are, not "Europeans". Many of them - including Herodotus, who wrote virtually everything known about the Scythians which has survived - came from Asia or Egypt or elsewhere. The term was actually considered rather inexplicable and was derived (maybe?) from a Phoenician lady mention by Homer. It means "wide-eyed" in Greek. How it stuck to a whole continent is a mystery and same thing with Asia.
- Do not end your diatribes with statements like "X is just X, Z is just Z". Such statements may seem confident, and are a time-tested rhetorical formula to end arguments. That may still work in front of a biased audience when delivered with a bit of swagger. Written down they are much more obviously the thought-terminating cliche you may or may not have intended it to be.
- Do not attempt to fake a familiarity with the ancients. Especially at he same time you are parroting vague modern theories ("the Scythians are 9th century BC"...) as if you have any expertise or discernment.
- Do not accuse a word of being misleading on the basis of being somehow anachronistic. These are articles, not historical fiction. If "Eurasian nomads" is tough to digest because it is an "AD term", please notify your intestines that histories are going to be full of such terms when written in an AD language like English. Would you recommend Wikipedia re-write things for a BC audience? Hopefully not. 73.190.90.235 (talk) 11:51, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Why
12 May 2016 13:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kanepisuitsu kasutati muidugi veel enese vaimu puhastamiseks, meelte selge hoidmise ja moraali säilitamise tarbeks.
Lisaks muud teatud kasutused muudest tarkadest kultuuridest.
talk:
Lisaks muud teatud kasutused muudest tarkadest kultuuridest.
talk:
12 May 2016 13:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1. WWF (2006) Facts about soy production and the Basel Criteria.
2. Carey C., Oettli D. (2006) Determining links between agricultural crop expansion and deforestation. A report prepared for the WWF Forest Conversion Initiative.
3. Carey C., Oettli D. (2006) Determining links between agricultural crop expansion and deforestation. A report prepared for the WWF Forest Conversion Initiative.
4. Centre for Science in the Public Interest (2005) Cruel Oil: How palm oil harms health, rainforests and wildlife.
5. Van Gelder J.W., Dros J.M. (2006) From rainforest to chicken breast: Effects of soybean cultivation for animal feed on people and nature in the Amazon region - a chain of custody study.
6. E. Nkonya et al. (eds.) 2016, Economics of Land Degradation and Improvement – A Global Assessment for Sustainable Development, DOI 10.1007/978-3-319-19168-3_1
2. Carey C., Oettli D. (2006) Determining links between agricultural crop expansion and deforestation. A report prepared for the WWF Forest Conversion Initiative.
3. Carey C., Oettli D. (2006) Determining links between agricultural crop expansion and deforestation. A report prepared for the WWF Forest Conversion Initiative.
4. Centre for Science in the Public Interest (2005) Cruel Oil: How palm oil harms health, rainforests and wildlife.
5. Van Gelder J.W., Dros J.M. (2006) From rainforest to chicken breast: Effects of soybean cultivation for animal feed on people and nature in the Amazon region - a chain of custody study.
6. E. Nkonya et al. (eds.) 2016, Economics of Land Degradation and Improvement – A Global Assessment for Sustainable Development, DOI 10.1007/978-3-319-19168-3_1
11 May 2016 16:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Land degradation stretches to about 30 % of the total global land area.
The problem persists, with a reported loss rate of about 10 million hectares per year.
In reality, the situation may be much more worrying. Over the last 5 decades, increases in agricultural productivity have made it possible to produce more crops on the same amount of land.
But the problem is that because agricultural land is often degraded and almost useless, producers keep on moving to more productive land. Globally, the land used and abandoned in the last 50 years may be equal to the amount of land used today."
http://wwf.panda.org/what_we_do/footprint/agriculture/impacts/soil_erosion/
The problem persists, with a reported loss rate of about 10 million hectares per year.
In reality, the situation may be much more worrying. Over the last 5 decades, increases in agricultural productivity have made it possible to produce more crops on the same amount of land.
But the problem is that because agricultural land is often degraded and almost useless, producers keep on moving to more productive land. Globally, the land used and abandoned in the last 50 years may be equal to the amount of land used today."
http://wwf.panda.org/what_we_do/footprint/agriculture/impacts/soil_erosion/
http://wwf.panda.org/what_we_do/footprint/agriculture/impacts/soil_erosion/
11 May 2016 16:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Arvatakse, et erosiooni tõttu on 1960. aastast alates kadunud kolmandik maailma haritavast maast. Probleemile ei ole lahendust leitud ning hetkel teatatakse kahjusid umbes 10 miljoni hektari kohta aastas. Tegelikult võib olukord olla palju murettekitavam. Viimase viie kümnendiga on oluliselt suurenenud põllumajanduse tootlikkus ning see on teinud võimalikuks suurema saagi tootmise pindalaühiku kohta. Probleem on aga selles, et kuna põllumajandusmaa on tihti degradeerunud ning muutunud peaaegu kasutuks, siis liiguvad tootjad edasi viljakamale maale. Ülemaailmselt võib viimase 50 aasta jooksul kasutatud ning seejärel mahajäetud maa pindalaliselt olla võrdne tänapäeval kasutatava maaga"
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%B5llumajanduse_m%C3%B5ju_keskkonnale
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%B5llumajanduse_m%C3%B5ju_keskkonnale
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%B5llumajanduse_m%C3%B5ju_keskkonnale
11 May 2016 16:54
Margus Meigo commented on GMO- VABA EESTI's note.
Päris kaval, tehakse allkirjastamine aga samas keeratakse kogu see protseduur nii nässu kui võimalik, et ühele maailma suurimale mürgitajale ei saaks vastu häält anda.
Eks neil ole ka inimesi tööl VÄGA mitmes alas, ilma naljata
Eks neil ole ka inimesi tööl VÄGA mitmes alas, ilma naljata
11 May 2016 14:01
Margus Meigo replied to David Dickson's comment.
Thank You, Thank You, i will forward Your most delightful view of this outcome to a friend
10 May 2016 22:58
Margus Meigo replied to David Dickson's comment.
My friend, this is just done randomly with a old Pad
not even with a real camera : )
not even with a real camera : )
10 May 2016 22:57
Margus Meigo commented on Põrgupõhja Uus Vanapagan's post.
looks like game... no!
10 May 2016 22:56
Margus Meigo commented on Põrgupõhja Uus Vanapagan's post.
hmm
10 May 2016 22:55
Margus Meigo replied to Melissa Perry's comment.
how these kind even are allowed to have citizenship equal to human species, just bizarre! Unjust.
10 May 2016 11:38
Margus Meigo replied to Melissa Perry's comment.
just shut it, your cyborg brain, and be at shame for lowering the global intelligence when protecting retardation of human species
Your comment comes out as You play games like that, yes?
You support probably also communism more then Hitler idea and are hidden supporter of liberals and anti-Jewish agendas - this is basic analyzes of Your thinking on this kind of topic, unless You get paid for Your comment, this is what usually people like Your comments portray are.
specially the silly " correlation now equals causation" sentence.
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i just copy paste this comment from another reply, as trolling like that has not value enough for personal comment.
Your comment comes out as You play games like that, yes?
You support probably also communism more then Hitler idea and are hidden supporter of liberals and anti-Jewish agendas - this is basic analyzes of Your thinking on this kind of topic, unless You get paid for Your comment, this is what usually people like Your comments portray are.
specially the silly " correlation now equals causation" sentence.
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i just copy paste this comment from another reply, as trolling like that has not value enough for personal comment.
10 May 2016 11:31
Margus Meigo replied to Josh Wolfe's comment.
Josh just shut it, your cyborg brain, and be at shame for lowering the global intelligence when protecting retardation of human species
Your comment comes out as You play games like that, yes?
You support probably also communism more then Hitler idea and are hidden supporter of liberals and anti-Jewish agendas - this is basic analyzes of Your thinking on this kind of topic, unless You get paid for Your comment, this is what usually people like Your comments portray are.
specially the silly " correlation now equals causation" sentence.
Your comment comes out as You play games like that, yes?
You support probably also communism more then Hitler idea and are hidden supporter of liberals and anti-Jewish agendas - this is basic analyzes of Your thinking on this kind of topic, unless You get paid for Your comment, this is what usually people like Your comments portray are.
specially the silly " correlation now equals causation" sentence.
10 May 2016 11:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_serials#Series_1_.282005.29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_serials#Series_1_.282005.29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_serials#Series_1_.282005.29
10 May 2016 11:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and a bit more related Who: "introduced a totally new variation of Cybermen. These Cybus Cybermen were created in a parallel universe by the mad inventor John Lumic; he was attempting to preserve the humans by transplanting their brains into powerful metal bodies, sending them orders using a mobile phone network and inhibiting their emotions with an electronic chip."
"Cybermen were originally a wholly organic species of humanoids originating on Earth's twin planet Mondas that began to implant more and more artificial parts into their bodies. This led to the race becoming coldly logical and calculating cyborgs, with emotions usually only shown when naked aggression was called for. With the demise of Mondas, they acquired Telos as their new home planet. "
// planet names is irrelevant as of now, important is the action and potentials
"Cybermen were originally a wholly organic species of humanoids originating on Earth's twin planet Mondas that began to implant more and more artificial parts into their bodies. This led to the race becoming coldly logical and calculating cyborgs, with emotions usually only shown when naked aggression was called for. With the demise of Mondas, they acquired Telos as their new home planet. "
// planet names is irrelevant as of now, important is the action and potentials
10 May 2016 11:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Reality of reality shows:
" A hundred years later, Satellite Five had become the Game Station. Run by the Bad Wolf Corporation and overseen by the Controller, it broadcast game shows and reality TV. The contestants were not volunteers. Anyone could be chosen at any time and transmatted to the station. The shows included a version of the Big Brother House on Channel 44000, The Weakest Link, What Not to Wear, Call My Bluff, Countdown, Stars in Their Eyes, Ground Force, Bear With Me and Wipeout. If the contestants failed, they were, supposedly, disintegrated. This was not the case. Contestants were actually being transported to another location, where they were harvested for genetic material meant to rebuild the Dalek race.
" A hundred years later, Satellite Five had become the Game Station. Run by the Bad Wolf Corporation and overseen by the Controller, it broadcast game shows and reality TV. The contestants were not volunteers. Anyone could be chosen at any time and transmatted to the station. The shows included a version of the Big Brother House on Channel 44000, The Weakest Link, What Not to Wear, Call My Bluff, Countdown, Stars in Their Eyes, Ground Force, Bear With Me and Wipeout. If the contestants failed, they were, supposedly, disintegrated. This was not the case. Contestants were actually being transported to another location, where they were harvested for genetic material meant to rebuild the Dalek race.
10 May 2016 10:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ninth Doctor, Rose and Adam materialised on floor 139 and found humanity was being manipulated by an unknown entity. They discovered that the Jagrafess was subtly manipulating the Empire, changing its social, economic and technological growth and making it more inward-looking and xenophobic. The human race had been reduced to slavery without realising it.
The environmental systems of Satellite Five had been configured to vent all heat away from Floor 500, keeping it cold enough for the Jagrafess to survive, attached to the ceiling of the main control room.
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The environmental systems of Satellite Five had been configured to vent all heat away from Floor 500, keeping it cold enough for the Jagrafess to survive, attached to the ceiling of the main control room.
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10 May 2016 10:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
calcualtions:
" 7 bn people.
120,000 satellites (?)
58,333 people / satellite.
ehh...
10cm cube
Maximum total shadow cast: 259.8 cm2
Maximum insolation (in space, at equator): 1.4 kW/m2
Maximum total insolation: 36.372 W
Current best solar efficiency for lightweight materials: 19%
Maximum power draw for transmission: 7.15 W
Compare to another universal service satellite type: GPS. Transmission power is in the 500W range. GPS just transmits a small data packet continuously, yet oftentimes your phone can't find even one. Compare that to an outernet node, constantly having to handle mesh-networking tasks in addition to basic terrestrial transmission.
Unless the node (a) has solar panel wings that fold out upon deployment, (b) is basically filled with ditritium monoxide and an amazingly efficient RTG, or (c) contains the world's fastest wheel-hamster, I doubt it's going to work all that well - especially if the goal is to serve about 60 kHuman each.
" 7 bn people.
120,000 satellites (?)
58,333 people / satellite.
ehh...
10cm cube
Maximum total shadow cast: 259.8 cm2
Maximum insolation (in space, at equator): 1.4 kW/m2
Maximum total insolation: 36.372 W
Current best solar efficiency for lightweight materials: 19%
Maximum power draw for transmission: 7.15 W
Compare to another universal service satellite type: GPS. Transmission power is in the 500W range. GPS just transmits a small data packet continuously, yet oftentimes your phone can't find even one. Compare that to an outernet node, constantly having to handle mesh-networking tasks in addition to basic terrestrial transmission.
Unless the node (a) has solar panel wings that fold out upon deployment, (b) is basically filled with ditritium monoxide and an amazingly efficient RTG, or (c) contains the world's fastest wheel-hamster, I doubt it's going to work all that well - especially if the goal is to serve about 60 kHuman each.
10 May 2016 09:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
one more:
" Satellites that only broadcast specific news, information, education and entertainment?
Centralized Media Control CHECK
Using a "popular" buzzword so the young people are attracted?
"Bittorent from Space" CHECK
Our current chosen "orbit layers" are full of trash already?
Let's just go farther away from earth and star throwing extremely small, fast and deadly cubes in orbit CHECK
Incorporate Human Rights in infographic CHECK
"Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression (Let's stop that by regulating what gets send down from these little cubes) ; This right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through and media and regardles of frontiers."
(maybe start looking into getting the government to stop abusing their power in the current version of the internet and not create a new one that is infinitely more abusable...)
60% of people don't have acces to the internet due to lack of infrastructure, connectivity, costs and censorship?
This program costs mooore than it would cost to position wifi signals in problematic places that were mentioned above.
This won't stop censoring, it will support it.
People who live in poor countries still have no money to even afford a device capable of getting the "outernet".
And I'm not even covering the whole "info"graphic...
oh, and also : Add a symbol that looks like a dick so even uneducated people spread the graphic? CHECK
(Point 06. WHEN? - the symbol for the lauch of the prototype)
" Satellites that only broadcast specific news, information, education and entertainment?
Centralized Media Control CHECK
Using a "popular" buzzword so the young people are attracted?
"Bittorent from Space" CHECK
Our current chosen "orbit layers" are full of trash already?
Let's just go farther away from earth and star throwing extremely small, fast and deadly cubes in orbit CHECK
Incorporate Human Rights in infographic CHECK
"Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression (Let's stop that by regulating what gets send down from these little cubes) ; This right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through and media and regardles of frontiers."
(maybe start looking into getting the government to stop abusing their power in the current version of the internet and not create a new one that is infinitely more abusable...)
60% of people don't have acces to the internet due to lack of infrastructure, connectivity, costs and censorship?
This program costs mooore than it would cost to position wifi signals in problematic places that were mentioned above.
This won't stop censoring, it will support it.
People who live in poor countries still have no money to even afford a device capable of getting the "outernet".
And I'm not even covering the whole "info"graphic...
oh, and also : Add a symbol that looks like a dick so even uneducated people spread the graphic? CHECK
(Point 06. WHEN? - the symbol for the lauch of the prototype)
10 May 2016 09:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and again, other one:
" I think you mean Google Loon.
The main differences are:
Balloons are much, much cheaper and easier to get into their place.
If a Balloon fails, they could have a parachute and be repaired and re-deployed
In-Atmosphere communication on limited regions require much cheaper (or no) licensing for the frequencies used than a global network would use.
The meshes would be smaller
And: We're talking about a company that actually has the money to implement the idea and has the engineers to do so. They have some pretty good programmers, sys-ops and recently bought a lot of companies with good engineering know-how.
I am still sceptic about google loon, but compared to "outernet" (what a stupid name...), Loon is actually doable. "
// STUPID NAME ?? wtf
it is genius name, come to it my self as well.. for a bit different kind of project but..
" I think you mean Google Loon.
The main differences are:
Balloons are much, much cheaper and easier to get into their place.
If a Balloon fails, they could have a parachute and be repaired and re-deployed
In-Atmosphere communication on limited regions require much cheaper (or no) licensing for the frequencies used than a global network would use.
The meshes would be smaller
And: We're talking about a company that actually has the money to implement the idea and has the engineers to do so. They have some pretty good programmers, sys-ops and recently bought a lot of companies with good engineering know-how.
I am still sceptic about google loon, but compared to "outernet" (what a stupid name...), Loon is actually doable. "
// STUPID NAME ?? wtf
it is genius name, come to it my self as well.. for a bit different kind of project but..
10 May 2016 09:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nice comment to the first one:
"I wanted to hate you, but bonus points for not only giving a in depth, laymen's explaination for why this won't work, but most importantly, giving viable alternatives to achieve the same goal, a valuable part that is usually skipped. So i still kinda hate you for raining on my space internet parade, but at least your awesome in every other aspect. "
"I wanted to hate you, but bonus points for not only giving a in depth, laymen's explaination for why this won't work, but most importantly, giving viable alternatives to achieve the same goal, a valuable part that is usually skipped. So i still kinda hate you for raining on my space internet parade, but at least your awesome in every other aspect. "
10 May 2016 09:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" On literally every cool post I see on /r/Futurology or /r/technology the top comment explains why it wouldn't world.
permalinkparent
// and what a optimistic ignorat view of typical naive child:
[–]wingchild 31 points 1 year ago
" That's okay - that's how science is supposed to work. Someone proposes a hypothesis. The hypothesis gets challenged. Experiments are designed and run, data is collected, and others attempt to replicate the results. Ideas should be vigorously challenged and vigorously defended, from genesis to implementation.
Good ideas will stand up to this testing. Half-baked ideas will quickly have their limitations exposed. All of this is right and proper. =) "
i guess they not heard of psychological warfare among many others...
permalinkparent
// and what a optimistic ignorat view of typical naive child:
[–]wingchild 31 points 1 year ago
" That's okay - that's how science is supposed to work. Someone proposes a hypothesis. The hypothesis gets challenged. Experiments are designed and run, data is collected, and others attempt to replicate the results. Ideas should be vigorously challenged and vigorously defended, from genesis to implementation.
Good ideas will stand up to this testing. Half-baked ideas will quickly have their limitations exposed. All of this is right and proper. =) "
i guess they not heard of psychological warfare among many others...
10 May 2016 09:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" I don't think hyperspecialization would cause too much of a problem provided everyone also had a decent base knowledge of other areas. I'm studying teaching, but I'll use my other area of interest for this. For example I am quite specialized in aquatic biology, much more then the layperson, but with a base knowledge of science in general (that comes with that specialization) I can move and understand quite well in many scientific fields, though I'm sure not going to be doing any research in, say, psychology, any time soon, even though I might be able to read and understand journals and conversations on many topics to do with it quite easily. I also have the research skills to learn further as needed in other areas.
Hyperspecialization in this case also allows an expert to make an analysis then dumb it down to the level of people with minimal knowledge in the area (like myself) who can then read it and go do further research to verify and learn and decide where they sit on the topic.
TL;DR if everyone has a decent base education in all areas/a general high level of science math and English knowledge is expected and taught, and good research skills are taught, you get around this issue pretty well.
The chasing paycheck thing in another comment of yours is interesting, though there is a shift in younger generations towards valuing your time and doing what you love over getting paid a heap. Encouraging this mentality might help some, as could closing the ridiculous pay differences between fields of similar education, skill level, and hours. For example teaching and nursing here gets paid a lot less then other careers that also require 4 years of education and similar hours.
Hyperspecialization in this case also allows an expert to make an analysis then dumb it down to the level of people with minimal knowledge in the area (like myself) who can then read it and go do further research to verify and learn and decide where they sit on the topic.
TL;DR if everyone has a decent base education in all areas/a general high level of science math and English knowledge is expected and taught, and good research skills are taught, you get around this issue pretty well.
The chasing paycheck thing in another comment of yours is interesting, though there is a shift in younger generations towards valuing your time and doing what you love over getting paid a heap. Encouraging this mentality might help some, as could closing the ridiculous pay differences between fields of similar education, skill level, and hours. For example teaching and nursing here gets paid a lot less then other careers that also require 4 years of education and similar hours.
10 May 2016 09:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
It doesn't matter how many hours or months or whatever you advertise something when you don't have the expertise someone else does, because education that forms an intellectual foundation isn't measured in hours anymore. It's years of specialization, that one such as /u/cryptovariable can draw on in order to understand, analyze, and explain the thing in question. That's why it seems he's reached a better conclusion orders of magnitude quicker than these others, because he has a different (greater) amount of human capital (self or society invested in him) than any of them.
This is why increasing the world's level of scientific and knowledge complexity could be socially stratifying, rather than unifying, and may actually lead to social, political, and economic (wealth) inequalities. Because every type of talent, including technological literacy, exists in some distribution, and those on the farthest reaches of the long tail (if the distribution has that shape) become many times more productive to the point of attaining unique, seemingly unrealizable skillsets to those at the mean.
At the very least, hyperspecialization can still mean an era of increasing alienation, of less ability to communicate even with others of similar skill in different fields as those fields grow apart.
TLDR; sufficiently trained sufficiently outlying human intellect is indistinguishable from magic, to those at the mean. And if it's an issue that's causing problems, it needs to be addressed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke's_three_laws
This is why increasing the world's level of scientific and knowledge complexity could be socially stratifying, rather than unifying, and may actually lead to social, political, and economic (wealth) inequalities. Because every type of talent, including technological literacy, exists in some distribution, and those on the farthest reaches of the long tail (if the distribution has that shape) become many times more productive to the point of attaining unique, seemingly unrealizable skillsets to those at the mean.
At the very least, hyperspecialization can still mean an era of increasing alienation, of less ability to communicate even with others of similar skill in different fields as those fields grow apart.
TLDR; sufficiently trained sufficiently outlying human intellect is indistinguishable from magic, to those at the mean. And if it's an issue that's causing problems, it needs to be addressed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke's_three_laws
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke's_three_laws
10 May 2016 09:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Comment: "We would also be interested to understand the regulatory analysis w.r.t. ITU filings.
I didn't even think about that!
What do INTELSAT and the ITU have to say about this?
Any of the frequencies this could operate on, from VHF up to microwaves are licensed by multiple global and national regulatory bodies.
A globe-swarming meshnet of 150 MHz, 2.4 GHz, or 10-14 GHz radios could wreak havoc on or outright DESTROY global communications networks.
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Yeah, this is probably just like Mars One. An ambitious plan with fancy infographics and official looking web pages. Accepting donated money (that won't be refunded) without giving out technical details.
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I didn't even think about that!
What do INTELSAT and the ITU have to say about this?
Any of the frequencies this could operate on, from VHF up to microwaves are licensed by multiple global and national regulatory bodies.
A globe-swarming meshnet of 150 MHz, 2.4 GHz, or 10-14 GHz radios could wreak havoc on or outright DESTROY global communications networks.
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Yeah, this is probably just like Mars One. An ambitious plan with fancy infographics and official looking web pages. Accepting donated money (that won't be refunded) without giving out technical details.
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10 May 2016 09:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
before:
Facebook
Facebook Messenger
Accuweather
BBC News
Bing
OLX
Damadam
Dictionary.com
ESPN Cricinfo
Facts for Life
Girl Effect
iLearn
Wikipedia
Ilm Ki Dunya
Mustakbil.com
SmartBsiness
Socialblood
Translator
UrduPoint Cooking
VirtualPediatricHospital.org
Worldreader
Youth Opportunities
Facebook Messenger
Accuweather
BBC News
Bing
OLX
Damadam
Dictionary.com
ESPN Cricinfo
Facts for Life
Girl Effect
iLearn
Wikipedia
Ilm Ki Dunya
Mustakbil.com
SmartBsiness
Socialblood
Translator
UrduPoint Cooking
VirtualPediatricHospital.org
Worldreader
Youth Opportunities
http://dictionary.com/
10 May 2016 09:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Here is 2015 list:
Here's the full list of services on Internet.org below.
Aaj Tak: Read news in Hindi
AccuWeather: Get updated weather information
amarujala.com: Read news in Hindi
AP Speaks: Engage with local government
Babajob: Search for jobs
BabyCenter & MAMA: Learn about pregnancy and childcare
BBC News: Read news from around the world
Bing Search: Find information
Cleartrip: Check train and flight schedules & buy tickets
Daily Bhaskar: Read local news
Dictionary.com: Search for meanings of words
ESPN Cricinfo: Get cricket updates
Facebook: Communicate with friends and family
Facts for Life: Find health and hygiene information
Girl Effect: Read articles and tips for girls
HungamaPlay: Listen to music
IBNLive: Read news
iLearn: Learn from Women Entrepreneurs
India Today: Read local news
Internet Basics: Learn about the basics of the Internet
Jagran: Read local news
Jagran Josh: Get education and career information
Maalai Malar: Read news in Tamil
Maharashtra Times: Read news in Marathi
Malaria No More: Learn about malaria
manoramanews.com: Read local news
Messenger: Send messages to friends and family
NDTV: Read news
Newshunt: Read news in English
OLX: Buy and sell products and services
Reliance Astrology: Read your horoscope
Reuters Market Lite: Get farming and crop information
Socialblood: Register to donate blood
Times of India: Read news
TimesJobs: Search for jobs
Translator: Translate words and phrases
Wikipedia: Find information
wikiHow: Find information
Here's the full list of services on Internet.org below.
Aaj Tak: Read news in Hindi
AccuWeather: Get updated weather information
amarujala.com: Read news in Hindi
AP Speaks: Engage with local government
Babajob: Search for jobs
BabyCenter & MAMA: Learn about pregnancy and childcare
BBC News: Read news from around the world
Bing Search: Find information
Cleartrip: Check train and flight schedules & buy tickets
Daily Bhaskar: Read local news
Dictionary.com: Search for meanings of words
ESPN Cricinfo: Get cricket updates
Facebook: Communicate with friends and family
Facts for Life: Find health and hygiene information
Girl Effect: Read articles and tips for girls
HungamaPlay: Listen to music
IBNLive: Read news
iLearn: Learn from Women Entrepreneurs
India Today: Read local news
Internet Basics: Learn about the basics of the Internet
Jagran: Read local news
Jagran Josh: Get education and career information
Maalai Malar: Read news in Tamil
Maharashtra Times: Read news in Marathi
Malaria No More: Learn about malaria
manoramanews.com: Read local news
Messenger: Send messages to friends and family
NDTV: Read news
Newshunt: Read news in English
OLX: Buy and sell products and services
Reliance Astrology: Read your horoscope
Reuters Market Lite: Get farming and crop information
Socialblood: Register to donate blood
Times of India: Read news
TimesJobs: Search for jobs
Translator: Translate words and phrases
Wikipedia: Find information
wikiHow: Find information
http://internet.org/
10 May 2016 09:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The Times Group will be pulling out TimesJobs and Maharashtra Times from Internet.org, and has committed to withdraw from internet.org if its direct competitors – India Today, NDTV, IBNLive, NewsHunt, and BBC – also pull out. "
Really good thy pulled out, as this crap is not needed anyway... to bad the india mobile company got wrong idea what is wanted to accomplish..
http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2015/04/15/internetorg-withdrawal_n_7071532.html
Really good thy pulled out, as this crap is not needed anyway... to bad the india mobile company got wrong idea what is wanted to accomplish..
http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2015/04/15/internetorg-withdrawal_n_7071532.html
http://internet.org/
10 May 2016 09:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
freaking capitalist fascist Roman minded soulles commies,
better deny then allow some for free.. what a bastards
using "net neutrality" bollocks for this argument..
Yeah.. these Freemasonry did not accept it...
better deny then allow some for free.. what a bastards
using "net neutrality" bollocks for this argument..
Yeah.. these Freemasonry did not accept it...
10 May 2016 08:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Conflict with other big players who forced india operators to ban Facebook service so they can limit india people to access free internet and force this big market to pay later:
2014 October 12 Tools Internet.org announces that it is working with carriers to analyze and improve their network performance to benefit their users, and that it had started by working with carriers in Indonesia.[55]
2015 March 2 Partnership, competition At the Mobile World Congress, Mark Zuckerberg says that the Internet.org initiative is "willing to work" with Project Loon (Google's project to use high-altitude balloons to provide people cheaper Internet access) but emphasizes that in his view, the real work is in partnering with existing telecommunications companies to improve access and reduce costs for people already within range of a network, which he estimates at over 80% of the population.[56][57]
2015 April 15 Negative reaction Some Indian startups start pulling out of internet.org to protect net neutrality.[58][59][60]
2015 May 4 Platform Facebook announces the Internet.org Platform, an open program for developers to easily create services that integrate with Internet.org. Participating websites must meet three criteria: (1) Explore the entire internet (so as to give users a taste of the wider Internet and therefore help them see the value of the Internet), (2) Efficiency of data use (so that it would be economical for carriers to allow free access to the websites), and (3) Technical specifications: optimized for browsing on a wide range of devices including smartphones and less sophisticated mobile devices, and should not be dependent on Javascript or HTTPS.[61] This is seen by commentators as a response to concerns raised over net neutrality.[8]
2015 October acquisition Facebook and Eutelsat lease the entire Ka-band capacity (36 spot beams with a total throughput of 18 Gbit/s) on the planned Amos-6 satellite to provide access to parts of Africa[62][63]
2016 January 20 Negative reaction Search giant Google has exited Facebook's Free Basics platform in Zambia. They were included in the initial trial of this project, which was first launched in Zambia.[64]
2016 January 21 Negative reaction the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (TRAI) criticizes and rebukes Facebook for it's misleading commercials and Astroturfing the Free Basics campaign. TRAI has accused Facebook of failing to pass on the four questions in the regulator's consultation paper and also blocking access to TRAI's designated email for feedback on Free Basics.[65][66]
2016 February 8 Negative reaction TRAI bans the Free Basics service in India based on "Prohibition of Discriminatory Tariffs for Data Services Regulations, 2016" notification.[10]
2016 February 11 Negative reaction Facebook withdraws the Free Basics platform from India after it got banned by the "Prohibition of Discriminatory Tariffs for Data Services Regulations, 2016" notification.[67]
Internet.org summit[edit]
2014 October 12 Tools Internet.org announces that it is working with carriers to analyze and improve their network performance to benefit their users, and that it had started by working with carriers in Indonesia.[55]
2015 March 2 Partnership, competition At the Mobile World Congress, Mark Zuckerberg says that the Internet.org initiative is "willing to work" with Project Loon (Google's project to use high-altitude balloons to provide people cheaper Internet access) but emphasizes that in his view, the real work is in partnering with existing telecommunications companies to improve access and reduce costs for people already within range of a network, which he estimates at over 80% of the population.[56][57]
2015 April 15 Negative reaction Some Indian startups start pulling out of internet.org to protect net neutrality.[58][59][60]
2015 May 4 Platform Facebook announces the Internet.org Platform, an open program for developers to easily create services that integrate with Internet.org. Participating websites must meet three criteria: (1) Explore the entire internet (so as to give users a taste of the wider Internet and therefore help them see the value of the Internet), (2) Efficiency of data use (so that it would be economical for carriers to allow free access to the websites), and (3) Technical specifications: optimized for browsing on a wide range of devices including smartphones and less sophisticated mobile devices, and should not be dependent on Javascript or HTTPS.[61] This is seen by commentators as a response to concerns raised over net neutrality.[8]
2015 October acquisition Facebook and Eutelsat lease the entire Ka-band capacity (36 spot beams with a total throughput of 18 Gbit/s) on the planned Amos-6 satellite to provide access to parts of Africa[62][63]
2016 January 20 Negative reaction Search giant Google has exited Facebook's Free Basics platform in Zambia. They were included in the initial trial of this project, which was first launched in Zambia.[64]
2016 January 21 Negative reaction the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (TRAI) criticizes and rebukes Facebook for it's misleading commercials and Astroturfing the Free Basics campaign. TRAI has accused Facebook of failing to pass on the four questions in the regulator's consultation paper and also blocking access to TRAI's designated email for feedback on Free Basics.[65][66]
2016 February 8 Negative reaction TRAI bans the Free Basics service in India based on "Prohibition of Discriminatory Tariffs for Data Services Regulations, 2016" notification.[10]
2016 February 11 Negative reaction Facebook withdraws the Free Basics platform from India after it got banned by the "Prohibition of Discriminatory Tariffs for Data Services Regulations, 2016" notification.[67]
Internet.org summit[edit]
http://internet.org/
10 May 2016 08:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Basic services need to be non-data-intensive, which means primarily text-based services and
very simple apps like weather. Data-intensive experiences like video, streaming music, high
resolution photos, websites with media and large files or app downloads consume the vast
majority of all data. For perspective, all of the text in this document is less than 0.1MB and a 30
second video can easily be 50–100MB.
Basic services also need to be tools that people use to discover other content. These services
should have the property that by making data for them free, people will discover more new
content and use meaningfully more data than they would have if they didn’t have access to
these basic services.
Services like messaging, social networks, search engines and Wikipedia fit this definition well,
but we’re not prescribing any specific set of basic internet services. Instead, we believe that the
more efficient we can make this model, the more access the industry can collectively provide
to basic services. And even beyond basic services, all of the technology improvements and
efficiencies will make it easier for everyone to access all internet services.
very simple apps like weather. Data-intensive experiences like video, streaming music, high
resolution photos, websites with media and large files or app downloads consume the vast
majority of all data. For perspective, all of the text in this document is less than 0.1MB and a 30
second video can easily be 50–100MB.
Basic services also need to be tools that people use to discover other content. These services
should have the property that by making data for them free, people will discover more new
content and use meaningfully more data than they would have if they didn’t have access to
these basic services.
Services like messaging, social networks, search engines and Wikipedia fit this definition well,
but we’re not prescribing any specific set of basic internet services. Instead, we believe that the
more efficient we can make this model, the more access the industry can collectively provide
to basic services. And even beyond basic services, all of the technology improvements and
efficiencies will make it easier for everyone to access all internet services.
10 May 2016 08:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mark whitepaper PDF:
"We believe it’s possible to sustainably provide free access to basic internet services in a way
that enables everyone with a phone to get on the internet and join the knowledge economy
while also enabling the industry to continue growing profits and building out this infrastructure.
Today, the global cost of delivering data is on the order of 100 times too expensive for this to
be economically feasible yet. The cost of subsidizing even basic services for free would exceed
many people’s monthly income and it would be extremely difficult for the industry to build a
profitable model.
However, with an organized effort, we think it is reasonable to expect the overall efficiency of
delivering data to increase by 100x in the next 5–10 years. This will come from two types of
innovation: bringing down the underlying costs of delivering data, and using less data by
building more efficient apps. If the industry can achieve a 10x improvement in each of these
areas, which we believe is possible, then it becomes economically reasonable to offer free basic
services to those who cannot afford them and start to sustainably deliver on the promise of
connectivity as a human right.
A key constraint here is to define which basic internet services should have free data, and which
require a data plan. If we get this right, then it will be possible to enable the most people to get
on the internet while also sustainably generating the most profits for the industry.
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t39.2365-6/12057105_1001874746531417_622371037_n.pdf
"We believe it’s possible to sustainably provide free access to basic internet services in a way
that enables everyone with a phone to get on the internet and join the knowledge economy
while also enabling the industry to continue growing profits and building out this infrastructure.
Today, the global cost of delivering data is on the order of 100 times too expensive for this to
be economically feasible yet. The cost of subsidizing even basic services for free would exceed
many people’s monthly income and it would be extremely difficult for the industry to build a
profitable model.
However, with an organized effort, we think it is reasonable to expect the overall efficiency of
delivering data to increase by 100x in the next 5–10 years. This will come from two types of
innovation: bringing down the underlying costs of delivering data, and using less data by
building more efficient apps. If the industry can achieve a 10x improvement in each of these
areas, which we believe is possible, then it becomes economically reasonable to offer free basic
services to those who cannot afford them and start to sustainably deliver on the promise of
connectivity as a human right.
A key constraint here is to define which basic internet services should have free data, and which
require a data plan. If we get this right, then it will be possible to enable the most people to get
on the internet while also sustainably generating the most profits for the industry.
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t39.2365-6/12057105_1001874746531417_622371037_n.pdf
10 May 2016 08:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I am not even sure to cry or laugh about, about one or another
10 May 2016 08:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"We think the new galaxy looks something like this". Image: Google
Any interfering signal that's visible to the radio-telescope is a problem – and that isn't limited by the 40 Km footprint Google's balloons will deliver useful signals to. The radio telescopes are so sensitive that even a transmitter low on the horizon, that Google believes is talking to the ground below it, will disrupt the operation of an antenna.
Radio astronomers don't even run microwaves in their facilities, in case the signals bounce off the ionosphere and return as noise in their instruments.
“If an object is there but we can't see past the nearby radio transmitter, we might never see that object,” Dr Tucker said.
Astronomers are geeks: Dr Tucker said he's just as interested in the project as the rest of the world. “It's a good idea, but the radio-astronomy community would like some consultation.”
The Register requested an interview with Google for this story, but has not received a response.
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I am not even sure to cry or laugh about, about one or another
Any interfering signal that's visible to the radio-telescope is a problem – and that isn't limited by the 40 Km footprint Google's balloons will deliver useful signals to. The radio telescopes are so sensitive that even a transmitter low on the horizon, that Google believes is talking to the ground below it, will disrupt the operation of an antenna.
Radio astronomers don't even run microwaves in their facilities, in case the signals bounce off the ionosphere and return as noise in their instruments.
“If an object is there but we can't see past the nearby radio transmitter, we might never see that object,” Dr Tucker said.
Astronomers are geeks: Dr Tucker said he's just as interested in the project as the rest of the world. “It's a good idea, but the radio-astronomy community would like some consultation.”
The Register requested an interview with Google for this story, but has not received a response.
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I am not even sure to cry or laugh about, about one or another
10 May 2016 08:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
A Murchison Widefield Array installation. Big science might have big problems with Google's Project Loon
And there's high confidence among the astrophysics community that somewhere in that frequency range they will be able to see the transition between an early universe with no galaxies, and where the galaxies begin to appear. Frequencies outside this band had already been eliminated, even twenty years ago when early discussions formulated the proposals that became the SKA.
Outside the footprint for now
At this point, the Google Loon test balloons shouldn't come anywhere near the MWA site: they were launched at the 40th Parallel, so far south that from Murchison, in Western Australia, they'd be well below the horizon.
The same might not be true, however, for radio astronomy sites in New Zealand – and that's a problem, Dr Tucker said.
“New Zealand is part of the long baseline configuration of Australia's SKA involvement. The long baseline gives us high resolution of galaxies at very high red-shift.”
In long-baseline configurations, radio telescopes separated by thousands of kilometres are connected together, creating an effective “dish size” of thousands of kilometres, thereby yielding vastly more information than any single dish could ever accomplish.
However, if there's a Loon balloon in the line of sight of an NZ facility, it would be knocked out of the configuration and the baseline length reduced accordingly.
“We don't know where in that frequency range we're likely to see the galaxies,” Dr Tucker went on.
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(well.. what else you expect to see, imagine to see... perhaps some plants to help you see better? Well.. to real innit )
And there's high confidence among the astrophysics community that somewhere in that frequency range they will be able to see the transition between an early universe with no galaxies, and where the galaxies begin to appear. Frequencies outside this band had already been eliminated, even twenty years ago when early discussions formulated the proposals that became the SKA.
Outside the footprint for now
At this point, the Google Loon test balloons shouldn't come anywhere near the MWA site: they were launched at the 40th Parallel, so far south that from Murchison, in Western Australia, they'd be well below the horizon.
The same might not be true, however, for radio astronomy sites in New Zealand – and that's a problem, Dr Tucker said.
“New Zealand is part of the long baseline configuration of Australia's SKA involvement. The long baseline gives us high resolution of galaxies at very high red-shift.”
In long-baseline configurations, radio telescopes separated by thousands of kilometres are connected together, creating an effective “dish size” of thousands of kilometres, thereby yielding vastly more information than any single dish could ever accomplish.
However, if there's a Loon balloon in the line of sight of an NZ facility, it would be knocked out of the configuration and the baseline length reduced accordingly.
“We don't know where in that frequency range we're likely to see the galaxies,” Dr Tucker went on.
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(well.. what else you expect to see, imagine to see... perhaps some plants to help you see better? Well.. to real innit )
10 May 2016 08:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" The grand vision is to send hundreds – or thousands – of weather-balloon style craft into the upper atmosphere. Instead of tethering a blimp, these would be allowed to move with the wind, and steered by either lifting or lowering them into air-streams moving in different directions. At 60,000 feet (around 20,000 metres), they're well above air traffic altitudes, so there's no danger to passing aircraft.
The Google-designed solar-powered radio kit is designed to deliver “3G-like” speeds to users with a “special antenna” (sorry for not being more specific than Google is being, as the Chocolate Factory isn't returning calls) within a 40 Km footprint for each balloon. The balloons will also communicate with each other, and with ground stations to get to the Internet backbone.
Balloons will only have a relatively short lifetime, but they ought to send enough telemetry and GPS data back to Earth to allow recovery after landing so the radio kit can be dispatched on a new mission.
As this setup is relatively cheap, Mountain View has no trouble imagining this as a means to bring affordable broadband to the whole world.
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The Google-designed solar-powered radio kit is designed to deliver “3G-like” speeds to users with a “special antenna” (sorry for not being more specific than Google is being, as the Chocolate Factory isn't returning calls) within a 40 Km footprint for each balloon. The balloons will also communicate with each other, and with ground stations to get to the Internet backbone.
Balloons will only have a relatively short lifetime, but they ought to send enough telemetry and GPS data back to Earth to allow recovery after landing so the radio kit can be dispatched on a new mission.
As this setup is relatively cheap, Mountain View has no trouble imagining this as a means to bring affordable broadband to the whole world.
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10 May 2016 08:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jah, inimene on andekam :)
7 May 2016 16:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
7 May 2016 16:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
7 May 2016 16:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sest sa oled Armastuse, Armu Olend
7 May 2016 16:28
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's post.
sad, strongly sad, the pain these kinds suffer, ... but fortunately they can not feel so much pain as of lacking the true emotion and Earth connected mind that would be able to scope with the depth of pain the Greek-Roman Empire like structures have bring up to all life
7 May 2016 16:23
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's post.
Täiesti elu ja reaalsuse hinge vaba lagunev Greeka-Rooma kehad jah selles videos,
väga hingetu, väga kadunud, lost, kohe peale vaadates, peidetud tumedus silmades ja jäik rets näojoontes... sellel vaimul.. ja siis wikist lugedes ongi sedasi: " they have sold over 25 million albums worldwide... The band is popular within the LGBT community, for whom openly gay Bell has become a gay icon"
väga hingetu, väga kadunud, lost, kohe peale vaadates, peidetud tumedus silmades ja jäik rets näojoontes... sellel vaimul.. ja siis wikist lugedes ongi sedasi: " they have sold over 25 million albums worldwide... The band is popular within the LGBT community, for whom openly gay Bell has become a gay icon"
7 May 2016 16:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so am guessing they not joining in
7 May 2016 16:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
7 May 2016 16:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
oWhy in the world they have pentagram in their logo: https://www.rsph.org.uk/en/policy-and-projects/awards/health-improvement-awards/index.cfm
7 May 2016 16:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ema-kas from the word "Mother"
7 May 2016 15:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Oh, asjakohane pilt homseks emadepäevaks :)
7 May 2016 15:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tasa sõuame, kuni veel jõuame...
7 May 2016 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But then again,
everyone who operates a business, why they all need to be forced to e the same...
perhaps some dealing with a things partly, that they are not able to be in public market.. so what a bout them..
everyone who operates a business, why they all need to be forced to e the same...
perhaps some dealing with a things partly, that they are not able to be in public market.. so what a bout them..
7 May 2016 15:20
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
i can say i like that response rate,
now only thing we need more is to rise responsibility rate
now only thing we need more is to rise responsibility rate
7 May 2016 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
but besides it all, the Trumph as a character is not bad at all (as long someone would be able to call him up on human values..),
but people should be able to pick on someone and change others to the end, as long one admits, that we need a proper "thinking for others mentality", and anything else is most likely mental illness or evil.
we must cure out evil.,
as thinking for others, is the thing, in our humans, that is keeping most of the world alive,
Can one imagine if all the medical world and many others, who serve the world directly, if they would start to act as careless or radical ways as few front end products are promoting the world to be
but people should be able to pick on someone and change others to the end, as long one admits, that we need a proper "thinking for others mentality", and anything else is most likely mental illness or evil.
we must cure out evil.,
as thinking for others, is the thing, in our humans, that is keeping most of the world alive,
Can one imagine if all the medical world and many others, who serve the world directly, if they would start to act as careless or radical ways as few front end products are promoting the world to be
7 May 2016 14:50
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
we should not glorify the liberal slave camp promoters, who are just happy when everyone works all day OUTSIDE HOME ...
they just happy when retardation like MAN and Women are "equal" is promoted, so they are able to force women to obey to the lover standards of corrupted half-man.
...
They are just happy to turn humans in to cyborgs and just leave some DNA stock for them self, in a country breeding places, so they can renew their own blood when needed,
..
They are just happy to eliminate all the higher knowledge of medicine from Nature, medicine with a mind and how to transport your soul and spirit, in time and space, without metal
...
and they are most happy to keep the illusion "Left-Right" Greek-Roman retarded political system running, but blue Right is not allowed to say out loud what red Left means.
While left can call up any kind of lie they want to .
And sad to say, the current Clinton opponent is ANYTHING but blue in words , actions and even the face turns pretty red besides pentagrams and red colors on party (no idea who designed this, did they think ... )
they just happy when retardation like MAN and Women are "equal" is promoted, so they are able to force women to obey to the lover standards of corrupted half-man.
...
They are just happy to turn humans in to cyborgs and just leave some DNA stock for them self, in a country breeding places, so they can renew their own blood when needed,
..
They are just happy to eliminate all the higher knowledge of medicine from Nature, medicine with a mind and how to transport your soul and spirit, in time and space, without metal
...
and they are most happy to keep the illusion "Left-Right" Greek-Roman retarded political system running, but blue Right is not allowed to say out loud what red Left means.
While left can call up any kind of lie they want to .
And sad to say, the current Clinton opponent is ANYTHING but blue in words , actions and even the face turns pretty red besides pentagrams and red colors on party (no idea who designed this, did they think ... )
7 May 2016 14:44
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
But we HAVE TO start to be able to be so free again, that we dare to speak up to the ones who are against human values, aka UN-Human, aka UN-Estonian
: )
: )
7 May 2016 14:38
Margus Meigo replied to Morgan Kokoro Johnson's comment.
only women who are confused in head want equality,
normal ones want a Matriarchy
as this is the Truth
normal ones want a Matriarchy
as this is the Truth
7 May 2016 14:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
feminism is really for commies and for gays it seems, the fascist liberal rulers,
Matriarchy, is the true Pussy They are afraid of
Matriarchy, is the true Pussy They are afraid of
7 May 2016 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
But Gentleman, we should not get worked about about this half communist propaganda, but share some love to these kitties and see what change comes,
as in the end, ALL true women, are tuned to a heterosexual understanding, so we safe, as well as we know how to get rid of these creatures...
As a Man, you should not be getting offended by it, as then You identify Yourself with filth,
instead, share a ideas and help, how to write headlines better, so these man who love Her pussy dearly would not be getting whipping in the minds of less enlightened ones, who wuld think, that proper man are here to blame
Well, we are in that ... we was made, given birth by a Women and a Lord, for the reason of eliminating Evil, but it has been taking a bit long time.. and the women is the ones who will get most of the hardest pain, that we barely at times are able to comprehend, partly for a moment, after learning multi dimensional understanding, time and psychedelics in matriarchal meditations
as in the end, ALL true women, are tuned to a heterosexual understanding, so we safe, as well as we know how to get rid of these creatures...
As a Man, you should not be getting offended by it, as then You identify Yourself with filth,
instead, share a ideas and help, how to write headlines better, so these man who love Her pussy dearly would not be getting whipping in the minds of less enlightened ones, who wuld think, that proper man are here to blame
Well, we are in that ... we was made, given birth by a Women and a Lord, for the reason of eliminating Evil, but it has been taking a bit long time.. and the women is the ones who will get most of the hardest pain, that we barely at times are able to comprehend, partly for a moment, after learning multi dimensional understanding, time and psychedelics in matriarchal meditations
7 May 2016 14:27
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Often, with we normal desires man, look these women, sometimes also lesbian women, and ask to our-self:: Women, a superior being of all creation, and why in the world they sleep with this or that creature, when good man are forced to basically jack off
7 May 2016 14:20
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Well, all true but
why to let You pussy to attract these creatures instead to sleep with a proper women loving man, not one of the many beings here, pretending to be man and screwing it up for Earth Man for good
why to let You pussy to attract these creatures instead to sleep with a proper women loving man, not one of the many beings here, pretending to be man and screwing it up for Earth Man for good
7 May 2016 14:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.headstogether.org.uk/charity-partners/
https://www.headstogether.org.uk/charity-partners/
7 May 2016 13:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Other good blog from Her to take a look:
http://hrhcountessofwessex.blogspot.com.ee/
http://hrhcountessofwessex.blogspot.com.ee/
http://hrhcountessofwessex.blogspot.com.ee/
7 May 2016 13:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"This is an amazing opportunity for charities to work together to challenge stigma, break down barriers and make a lasting difference. We hope that 2017 will be the Mental Health Marathon."
http://hrhcatherineduchessofcambridge.blogspot.com.ee/2016/04/the-duke-and-duchess-of-cambridge-and.html
http://hrhcatherineduchessofcambridge.blogspot.com.ee/2016/04/the-duke-and-duchess-of-cambridge-and.html
http://hrhcatherineduchessofcambridge.blogspot.com.ee/2016/04/the-duke-and-duchess-of-cambridge-and.html
7 May 2016 13:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV8nXSTkllo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV8nXSTkllo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV8nXSTkllo
7 May 2016 13:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Initiative:
https://www.headstogether.org.uk
http://royalfoundation.com/about-our-foundation/
http://www.mind.org.uk/
http://www.bestbeginnings.org.uk/
http://www.getconnected.org.uk/ old http://www.themix.org.uk/
https://www.place2be.org.uk/
http://www.contactarmedforces.org.uk/
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/
https://www.thecalmzone.net/
http://www.youngminds.org.uk/
Vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV8nXSTkllo
https://www.headstogether.org.uk
http://royalfoundation.com/about-our-foundation/
http://www.mind.org.uk/
http://www.bestbeginnings.org.uk/
http://www.getconnected.org.uk/ old http://www.themix.org.uk/
https://www.place2be.org.uk/
http://www.contactarmedforces.org.uk/
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/
https://www.thecalmzone.net/
http://www.youngminds.org.uk/
Vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV8nXSTkllo
https://www.headstogether.org.uk/
7 May 2016 13:43
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
jup, no need to die on lack of nutients
7 May 2016 12:49
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Same here,
strange
strange
7 May 2016 12:41
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
heavy,
i saw character W.
i saw character W.
7 May 2016 12:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
6 May 2016 15:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
6 May 2016 15:13
Margus Meigo commented on Livingston Charlz's post.
wonder, was he for real
5 May 2016 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
up to the point of...
https://www.bookdepository.com/Anthropological-Defense-God-Lloyd-E-Sandelands/9780765803962
https://www.bookdepository.com/Anthropological-Defense-God-Lloyd-E-Sandelands/9780765803962
https://www.bookdepository.com/Anthropological-Defense-God-Lloyd-E-Sandelands/9780765803962
3 May 2016 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"A U.S. military program that uses social science field research to gain a strategic advantage in conflict zones does not reflect the ethical standards of the American Anthropological Association, a commission of the association said in a report released Thursday at its annual meeting here.
The program, called the Human Terrain System, embeds social scientists with U.S. Army or Marine units in combat zones, where they collect ethnographic data on the human populations there. Field researchers submit their findings to military and civilian “analysts” back home, who use those data to create reports on a wide range of topics -- such as social customs and key local conflicts and personalities -- for military decision makers. As of April, the two-year-old program had 27 teams deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan."
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/12/04/hts
The program, called the Human Terrain System, embeds social scientists with U.S. Army or Marine units in combat zones, where they collect ethnographic data on the human populations there. Field researchers submit their findings to military and civilian “analysts” back home, who use those data to create reports on a wide range of topics -- such as social customs and key local conflicts and personalities -- for military decision makers. As of April, the two-year-old program had 27 teams deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan."
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/12/04/hts
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/12/04/hts
3 May 2016 18:55
Margus Meigo commented on Sergei Kolosov's post.
Group: Tutvus
Veider, siin see maailm,
Näiteks Proovides arusaada, et mis toimub siis ainuüksi Neiu Jane peale läheb pea sassi:
Neiu kes sellest teemast siin huvitus,et olla üks naistest kellega keegi teadmata hingesoovidega autoomanik saaks olla, neiu kes ise on suhtes veebruari kuust,
kes samas jutus ennast veel Alexanderile pakub ja samas tema kumerusi juba ka omanik ise teab... kuid nagu eelkõige, et
kujutage ette, et olete nüüd see kes on selle armsa suhte teiselpool, antropoloogina huvitav mõelda: mis nende liikide peastoimub.. või südames... kasnad teavad mis energiatega ennast seovadjamida alatiseks äraannavad
Kuhusee maailm sedasi jõuab... nu ikka edasi, vast, eks keegi peab ka seda tööd mõnda aega tegema, erinevate vaimude rahuldamiseks siinses reaalsuses, et nad vähemkurjad oleks, kuigi , eks see karm elupikkune koorem ole mida kanda, ka aitajatel.3 May 2016 16:23
Margus Meigo commented on Sergei Kolosov's post.
Group: Tutvus
et naisi mitte naist..3 May 2016 15:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I think, in Estonia You can even do better, much better. E-sitizen and all.. .. and if so boor in here under this products cost for GMP taking in to account... then You should be able to keep and deal here and make us top 5 as we are :)
"..Shell companies in Panama and other tax havens advertize their services on their web pages quite openly: it just takes $900 (790 euros) to set up a "regular Panama corporation" hiring 'Panama Offshore Worldwide' as a service provider. All you need are the names, addresses and passport copies of three directors.
The anonymous version costs $1,200, with an additional $650 annual administration fee. In contrast to the "regular Panama corporation" Panama Offshore Worldwide provides three "nominee directors."
According to the website, "this type of corporation is a good choice if your objective is to save taxes or protect your assets. The actual owner of this corporation is not registered in any public records." The website also emphasizes that "strict secrecy laws" guarantee that the key personnel "cannot be revealed and is protected by law bearing criminal consequences for the bank officials if they attempt to release any private information."
http://www.dw.com/en/the-benefits-of-a-shell-company/a-19170221
"..Shell companies in Panama and other tax havens advertize their services on their web pages quite openly: it just takes $900 (790 euros) to set up a "regular Panama corporation" hiring 'Panama Offshore Worldwide' as a service provider. All you need are the names, addresses and passport copies of three directors.
The anonymous version costs $1,200, with an additional $650 annual administration fee. In contrast to the "regular Panama corporation" Panama Offshore Worldwide provides three "nominee directors."
According to the website, "this type of corporation is a good choice if your objective is to save taxes or protect your assets. The actual owner of this corporation is not registered in any public records." The website also emphasizes that "strict secrecy laws" guarantee that the key personnel "cannot be revealed and is protected by law bearing criminal consequences for the bank officials if they attempt to release any private information."
http://www.dw.com/en/the-benefits-of-a-shell-company/a-19170221
http://www.dw.com/en/the-benefits-of-a-shell-company/a-19170221
29 April 2016 17:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
KUi krinimaanlid kori kinni ei tomba siis saadakse isegi hakkama:
"Berlin proposed sharing national lists naming the beneficiaries of shell companies.
In an interview with Germany's public broadcaster ARD, Schäuble said that if corporate registers listing the owners of firms were networked internationally, it would be possible to find all the people hiding behind offshore companies.
"The registers should be drawn up at the national level and linked up," Schäuble told ARD.
The European Union has already agreed to create registers as part of a fourth directive on money laundering that must be implemented at the national level by mid-2017.
Fallout from Panama Papers leak
Symbolbild Panama Papers Mossack Fonseca
Wolfgang Schäuble said if a nation refused to share data on who controls companies, "they could be put on a so-called black list"
A massive leak of more than 11.5 million documents from the Panama-based law firm Mossack Fonseca has shown how offshore firms are used to hide the wealth of the rich and powerful, embarrassing several world leaders from Iceland to Argentina.
Germany made closer international cooperation on tax evasion a priority during its presidency of the G7 economic powers.
The finance minister also proposed reforming statutes of limitations for tax crimes.
But even as Schäuble vowed to get tough, he suggested his own country's banking sector was relatively clean. German banks had "largely put things in order already," he claimed and added: "We have made a lot of progress in recent years."
A draft of the German government's action plan - which has not been publicly released - also said tougher rules to combat money laundering had been introduced in Germany's financial sector in recent years and such progress was also needed in the commercial sector.
The proposed reforms won't go as far as some advocate. The finance minister told "Die Welt" that even in the wake of the Panama Papers scandal, Germany isn't planning to ban anonymous letter-box accounts and instead believes "full transparency is the correct path" to take.
http://www.dw.com/en/german-finance-ministry-seeks-global-register/a-19177537
"Berlin proposed sharing national lists naming the beneficiaries of shell companies.
In an interview with Germany's public broadcaster ARD, Schäuble said that if corporate registers listing the owners of firms were networked internationally, it would be possible to find all the people hiding behind offshore companies.
"The registers should be drawn up at the national level and linked up," Schäuble told ARD.
The European Union has already agreed to create registers as part of a fourth directive on money laundering that must be implemented at the national level by mid-2017.
Fallout from Panama Papers leak
Symbolbild Panama Papers Mossack Fonseca
Wolfgang Schäuble said if a nation refused to share data on who controls companies, "they could be put on a so-called black list"
A massive leak of more than 11.5 million documents from the Panama-based law firm Mossack Fonseca has shown how offshore firms are used to hide the wealth of the rich and powerful, embarrassing several world leaders from Iceland to Argentina.
Germany made closer international cooperation on tax evasion a priority during its presidency of the G7 economic powers.
The finance minister also proposed reforming statutes of limitations for tax crimes.
But even as Schäuble vowed to get tough, he suggested his own country's banking sector was relatively clean. German banks had "largely put things in order already," he claimed and added: "We have made a lot of progress in recent years."
A draft of the German government's action plan - which has not been publicly released - also said tougher rules to combat money laundering had been introduced in Germany's financial sector in recent years and such progress was also needed in the commercial sector.
The proposed reforms won't go as far as some advocate. The finance minister told "Die Welt" that even in the wake of the Panama Papers scandal, Germany isn't planning to ban anonymous letter-box accounts and instead believes "full transparency is the correct path" to take.
http://www.dw.com/en/german-finance-ministry-seeks-global-register/a-19177537
http://www.dw.com/en/german-finance-ministry-seeks-global-register/a-19177537
29 April 2016 16:57
Margus Meigo commented on Asse Sauga's post.
kuigi mitmes osas mu platvormiga kattub ka, lihtsalt ma täiesti praeguse valitsuse poolt ja narva kivimägede asemel pooldan Põltsamaast saareni meie maalasi
27 April 2016 12:33
Margus Meigo commented on Asse Sauga's post.
Ah või et tema, sellepärast, et ta päris inimene,
Nu siis juba ma ammu sobin paremini,
muidugi ma teeks valitsuse diktatuuri, sellise mis inimestele meeldib,
palju mõnusam, mõjusam ja meeldivam.
Nu siis juba ma ammu sobin paremini,
muidugi ma teeks valitsuse diktatuuri, sellise mis inimestele meeldib,
palju mõnusam, mõjusam ja meeldivam.
27 April 2016 12:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
27 April 2016 12:12
Margus Meigo replied to Maik Linkolm's comment.
aga pealause jah käest ära.,
see olema paremini peaks, võiks " ... oli_on, kes nii ütles,
kas ta teab selle tõe olulisust ka vabamüürlastele läbi nende enda raamatu "
see olema paremini peaks, võiks " ... oli_on, kes nii ütles,
kas ta teab selle tõe olulisust ka vabamüürlastele läbi nende enda raamatu "
27 April 2016 11:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Seda ma arvasin, et selline sloogani .... ja otsa ei tule midagi
isegi mitte vaimukat.. oleks siis veel, et Vaimukat soovida.
isegi mitte vaimukat.. oleks siis veel, et Vaimukat soovida.
27 April 2016 11:08
Margus Meigo replied to Maik Linkolm's comment.
sellise plärtsumise peale küll jah, kus midagi siia viskad ja siis jääd ootama (jättes mind ootama), ja edasi ei arenda, et mida selle tundega väljendada proovisid
27 April 2016 10:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
pop upi all peaks olema ka siis kontaktvorm kui sama ip on saanud seda plärakat juba kolmas kord ja härima hakkab
ja siis peale ise vastamise kursust,
peaks olema inimesel riigis ka väimalik nõuda selgitust, miks tema arvab, et internetis peaksid asjad muud moodi liikuma hakkama lõppude lopuks ei saa baite väärtustada kogumikus, kui nad veel on lihtsalt päris elu kirjeldus ega mitte mingi töötav olevuseke,
ja siis peale ise vastamise kursust,
peaks olema inimesel riigis ka väimalik nõuda selgitust, miks tema arvab, et internetis peaksid asjad muud moodi liikuma hakkama lõppude lopuks ei saa baite väärtustada kogumikus, kui nad veel on lihtsalt päris elu kirjeldus ega mitte mingi töötav olevuseke,
27 April 2016 10:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Et siis igasugused peale sunnitud "Cookie" plärakad, sedasii weebilehtedel ei ole vajalikud ega head, kui seda sunnib valitsus, siis las tema paneb ja teeb oma domain popupi nagu Eesti Piirikaitse, piraadibey lehel pani edukalt siiani.
27 April 2016 10:52
Margus Meigo replied to Maik Linkolm's comment.
Nu ma oota, edasiarendust. et ütlesid ja siis.. mis veel sinna tuli ?...
27 April 2016 10:50
Margus Meigo replied to Maik Linkolm's comment.
?
27 April 2016 10:49
Margus Meigo replied to Maik Linkolm's comment.
ja ära vannu siin seinal
27 April 2016 10:49
Margus Meigo replied to Maik Linkolm's comment.
Nüüd ärka ja loe uuesti, Tundega
27 April 2016 10:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja et kõik teised võivad lindistada,
kes seda selliseks heaks ei kasuta
aga Sina ei või,
milleks iganes kasutada soovid,
omamoodi
Nagu selle Villemi filosoofia kes eestis Skorpionite ööst teab rääkida Skorpioni Märgiall olevas raamatus
mis pidavat tundmatu koloneli või oli see tuntud sõjave isik, kes ütles, et see raamat on viimase mitmesaja aasta olulisemaid raamatuid,
ja kui oluline müürlane see mees ise oli_on, kes nii ütles,
kas ta teab selle tõe oluisust ka vabamüürsu past läbi nende enda raamatu
kes seda selliseks heaks ei kasuta
aga Sina ei või,
milleks iganes kasutada soovid,
omamoodi
Nagu selle Villemi filosoofia kes eestis Skorpionite ööst teab rääkida Skorpioni Märgiall olevas raamatus
mis pidavat tundmatu koloneli või oli see tuntud sõjave isik, kes ütles, et see raamat on viimase mitmesaja aasta olulisemaid raamatuid,
ja kui oluline müürlane see mees ise oli_on, kes nii ütles,
kas ta teab selle tõe oluisust ka vabamüürsu past läbi nende enda raamatu
27 April 2016 10:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hardwareism shares sameilar belief with various completelly different realizations about how world shouldbe built
27 April 2016 09:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vot kui selge,
aga alati pole ,,võimaluses aega seda lisada ka alati paljudele arusaadavalt laia haardega
aga alati pole ,,võimaluses aega seda lisada ka alati paljudele arusaadavalt laia haardega
27 April 2016 09:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et siis need kes füüsiliste peen asjade ehitamisega Tarkvara võimaldasid, olid lahedad,
27 April 2016 09:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
...võrreldes Neid mõõtmeid,
me näeme,
kui palju suuremad mõõtmed ja suured maailmad reaalselt anud ehitanud oleksid need kes füüsiliste visioonidega olid,
et mille peale, (edasi, ümber) teised ehitanud oleks, üheskoos,
aga ...
eehk...
...võrreldes Neid mõõtmeid,
me näeme,
kui palju suuremad mõõtmed ja suured maailmad reaalselt oldud ehitanud oleksid Nad kes füüsiliste asjade ehitamisega tarkvara võimaldasid
me näeme,
kui palju suuremad mõõtmed ja suured maailmad reaalselt anud ehitanud oleksid need kes füüsiliste visioonidega olid,
et mille peale, (edasi, ümber) teised ehitanud oleks, üheskoos,
aga ...
eehk...
...võrreldes Neid mõõtmeid,
me näeme,
kui palju suuremad mõõtmed ja suured maailmad reaalselt oldud ehitanud oleksid Nad kes füüsiliste asjade ehitamisega tarkvara võimaldasid
27 April 2016 09:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
,
aga, füüsiliselt,
need asja välja mõtlejad
riistvara inventerid,
kes tegid, ...
võrreldes riski ja
suuruse mõõtmeid
Tegelikus Tehnoloogilises Arengus
aga, füüsiliselt,
need asja välja mõtlejad
riistvara inventerid,
kes tegid, ...
võrreldes riski ja
suuruse mõõtmeid
Tegelikus Tehnoloogilises Arengus
27 April 2016 09:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
#Netscape yo!
27 April 2016 09:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja selle pärast voiks arvata,
et videot selle pärast ei näe, nagu oleks mure sisuga,
aga tegelikult viga lihtsalt tehniline
meelega kogematta
et videot selle pärast ei näe, nagu oleks mure sisuga,
aga tegelikult viga lihtsalt tehniline
meelega kogematta
27 April 2016 09:33
Margus Meigo commented on Tiina Haak's post.
Group: Pelgulinn
Oot see mitte pole arvutiga kokku pandud, vaid päriselt kuu oli sellel tänaval sedasi ?27 April 2016 08:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
a Friend
27 April 2016 08:45
Margus Meigo commented on Enn Ojaste's photo.
Kas mõtled Und, nagu siit elust ära minekuund?
25 April 2016 23:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
With all the respect to all real Jewish and other versions of peoples
24 April 2016 08:03
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's post.
And while at it, try to feel : what was God benefit, , using Adolf to save us all from the worst, for a while ?
If there would be no Hitler... there would be no FaceBook most likely, as this kind of freedom would not have come, if Red Terror would have been able to activate their full Jew global elimination program they had, also genetically .
He is vegetarian and global greatest reformer of animal rights, we must remember.
Remember why Jehovah made Him and why He is not in Hell.
If there would be no Hitler... there would be no FaceBook most likely, as this kind of freedom would not have come, if Red Terror would have been able to activate their full Jew global elimination program they had, also genetically .
He is vegetarian and global greatest reformer of animal rights, we must remember.
Remember why Jehovah made Him and why He is not in Hell.
24 April 2016 08:02
Margus Meigo commented on Aarne Lassi's post.
Group: Kristlased
(ja kel liiga keeruline, viimase lause seletada võib ka sedasi "mis olemus on seegi" )22 April 2016 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on Aarne Lassi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Esiteks Juudist paremaks end pidada ei saa keegi
sest Jumal neist paremaid ei teegi
ja neeger, pole kindel, kas olemas on seegi22 April 2016 20:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kahju, et meil paekülas palju sellisi vanamehi polnud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpXZpuzfSPk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpXZpuzfSPk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpXZpuzfSPk
22 April 2016 15:14
Margus Meigo commented on Lisbeth Rohtla's post.
Group: Neile, Kes kannatanud valu kiusamise pärast
Millist abi oled saanud?20 April 2016 23:42
Margus Meigo commented on Conduit's photo.
Maybe
20 April 2016 15:13
Margus Meigo commented on Sandra Ashilevi's post.
Loodame, et sellised vesinud peidetud silmad, Riietuse olemust ei väljenda. kuid tundub õhuline, loodame, et material on udusuleliselt pehme ja meeldiv, nagu abielu on
20 April 2016 14:07
Margus Meigo commented on Sandra Ashilevi's post.
Hm
20 April 2016 14:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
20 April 2016 13:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX4cF8dS7IA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX4cF8dS7IA
18 April 2016 15:22
Margus Meigo commented on Aiki Obermann's photo.
Oh Sind!
Get Healthy!
Get Healthy!
18 April 2016 14:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
why to fantasies about stuff like that?
What has these demons done to ya?
for me everyone who has disorders like that in head (talking about homo stuff) is a droid and zombi , usage for all the organizations mentioned before
will invest not a lot of more interest on this
when you are cleaned up let us know
What has these demons done to ya?
for me everyone who has disorders like that in head (talking about homo stuff) is a droid and zombi , usage for all the organizations mentioned before
will invest not a lot of more interest on this
when you are cleaned up let us know
18 April 2016 11:51
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
nii usutavasti usutakse jah
18 April 2016 11:42
Margus Meigo commented on Stella Bond's post.
just in case i disregard ALL Greek philo
18 April 2016 09:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Patriarchy v Matriarchy
And man who is not willing to die for Any women on any time is not really grown up, nor does one have keys to heaven then as "t/here" is Only possible to get trough Female heart.
And for man, this usually means, by the heart of a Women who is waiting in real size in Other side.
Who is waiting You and stands for You, among everyone, in there, ho sees, feels Everything ?18 April 2016 06:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"A. Huxley was a humanist, pacifist, and satirist. He later became interested in spiritual subjects such as parapsychology and philosophical mysticism, in particular Universalism. By the end of his life, Huxley was widely acknowledged as one of the pre-eminent intellectuals of his time. He was nominated for the Nobel Prize in Literature in seven different years
"His brother Julian wrote:
I believe his blindness was a blessing in disguise. For one thing, it put paid to his idea of taking up medicine as a career ... His uniqueness lay in his universalism. He was able to take all knowledge for his province.
"His brother Julian wrote:
I believe his blindness was a blessing in disguise. For one thing, it put paid to his idea of taking up medicine as a career ... His uniqueness lay in his universalism. He was able to take all knowledge for his province.
15 April 2016 10:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The Huxley family is a British family of which several members have excelled in scientific, medical, artistic, and literary fields. The family also includes members who occupied senior public positions in the service of the United Kingdom.
The patriarch of the family was the zoologist and comparative anatomist Thomas Henry Huxley (referred to here as THH). THH's grandsons include Aldous Huxley, author of Brave New World and Doors of Perception, his brother Julian Huxley, evolutionist and first director of UNESCO, and Nobel laureate physiologist Andrew Huxley. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huxley_family
The patriarch of the family was the zoologist and comparative anatomist Thomas Henry Huxley (referred to here as THH). THH's grandsons include Aldous Huxley, author of Brave New World and Doors of Perception, his brother Julian Huxley, evolutionist and first director of UNESCO, and Nobel laureate physiologist Andrew Huxley. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huxley_family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huxley_family
15 April 2016 10:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Laura Huxley (née Archera) (November 2, 1911 – December 13, 2007) was an Italian-American musician, author, psychological counselor and lecturer, and the wife of author Aldous Huxley..
Laura received widespread recognition for her humanistic achievements, including:
Honorary Doctorate of Human Services from La Sierra University
Honoree of the United Nations Fellow of the International Academy of Medical Preventics
The 1990 World Health Foundation for Development and Peace Prize
The 2003 Association of Prenatal and Perinatal Psychology and Health Thomas R. Verny Award, for outstanding contributions to the field of prenatal and perinatal psychology
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdHZyetkQGA
Laura received widespread recognition for her humanistic achievements, including:
Honorary Doctorate of Human Services from La Sierra University
Honoree of the United Nations Fellow of the International Academy of Medical Preventics
The 1990 World Health Foundation for Development and Peace Prize
The 2003 Association of Prenatal and Perinatal Psychology and Health Thomas R. Verny Award, for outstanding contributions to the field of prenatal and perinatal psychology
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdHZyetkQGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdHZyetkQGA
15 April 2016 10:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
"Psychedelics are extraordinary tools, when used with psychotherapy, because in one day you can let go of so much, and have insight into so much. Sometimes more than in a year of traditional psychotherapy. I think they should be used in psychotherapy. But I don’t know who should be entrusted with the toolbox – priests or psychiatrists? That is the difficulty." - Laura Archera Aldous Huxley
"Psychedelics are extraordinary tools, when used with psychotherapy, because in one day you can let go of so much, and have insight into so much. Sometimes more than in a year of traditional psychotherapy. I think they should be used in psychotherapy. But I don’t know who should be entrusted with the toolbox – priests or psychiatrists? That is the difficulty." - Laura Archera Aldous Huxley
15 April 2016 10:34
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's note.
Still relevant as ever : )
15 April 2016 10:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"To use your head, you have to go out of your mind." - Timothy Leary
15 April 2016 10:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"LSD is just a tool to turn us into what we are supposed to be." - Albert Hofmann
15 April 2016 10:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
“God made pot. Man made beer. Who do you trust?” - Graffiti
https://www.facebook.com/notes/100514563562/
https://www.facebook.com/notes/100514563562/
15 April 2016 10:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Greetings Carlos Jorge Ferreira!
15 April 2016 10:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
15 April 2016 10:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and they not use pentagrams on their logo.. that is also comforting
11 April 2016 07:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Yeah, this is why am wonder, thy must be good ,
also perhaps first ones to openly stand up for Estonia when Soviet planned to take our time portals and all under their grip for ever
also perhaps first ones to openly stand up for Estonia when Soviet planned to take our time portals and all under their grip for ever
11 April 2016 07:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
First gamelike this yes
11 April 2016 07:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but then again.. 9 is..
11 April 2016 07:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nothing about balls no? :p
11 April 2016 07:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But what more ? : )
11 April 2016 07:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Материалы Пленума Центрального Комитета КПСС
13-14 июля 1990 года
ИНФОРМАЦИОННОЕ СООБЩЕНИЕ
о Пленуме Центрального Комитета
Коммунистической партии Советского Союза
13 июля в Москве открылся Пленум ЦК КПСС, рассматривающий организационные вопросы.
На Пленуме обсуждаются численный и персональный составы Политбюро и Секретариата ЦК КПСС.
В работе Пленума принимают участие члены Центральной Контрольной Комиссии КПСС. :
http://www.kpss.su/mp2801.html
13-14 июля 1990 года
ИНФОРМАЦИОННОЕ СООБЩЕНИЕ
о Пленуме Центрального Комитета
Коммунистической партии Советского Союза
13 июля в Москве открылся Пленум ЦК КПСС, рассматривающий организационные вопросы.
На Пленуме обсуждаются численный и персональный составы Политбюро и Секретариата ЦК КПСС.
В работе Пленума принимают участие члены Центральной Контрольной Комиссии КПСС. :
http://www.kpss.su/mp2801.html
http://www.kpss.su/mp2801.html
11 April 2016 07:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
Kas neis koolides, muidu need N. Liiidu aluspinnalise ideoloogiaga akadeemikud, ka välja vahetati või lubati masina usku inimestel edasi olla siiani juhtivatel kohtadel, jagamaks Rooma Impeeriumi ideoloogat?
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st, Greeka-Rooma ideoloontgia (mis siis oli vastane Heebria ja teiste kõrgkultuuride mõttemaailmade osas, mis moodi värve, lõhu, tundeid, aega ja inimeste olemust tajuti... praeguseks suurem osa on allunud Greeka mõttemaailmale, kes samal ajal aktsepteeris ka kõike muud... kõike muud mida masina maailmas teha võib, sest "vahet pole" senikaua kui ühtse utoopia saame)11 April 2016 07:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
Kool millest siin jutu:
"В 1958 году Анчупанс был направлен на учебу в высшую партийную школу при ЦК КПСС. После ее успешного окончания работал секретарем Вараклянского райкома партии, первым секретарем Цесвайнского, а затем первым секретарем Гулбенского райкома партии, секретарем Валмиерского промышленно-производственного комитета КП Латвии. В январе 1965 года был назначен директором Рижской советско-партийной школы при ЦК КП Латвии, а в мае 1966 года его избрали секретарем республиканского Совета профсоюзов.
Труд А. П. Анчупанса отмечен орденом «Знак почета», Почетной грамотой Президиума Верховного Совета Латвийской ССР и другими наградами. Анчупанс неоднократно избирался и сейчас является членом ЦК КП Латвии и депутатом Верховного Совета Латвийской ССР."
http://www.nashapobeda.lv/1306.htmlhttp://www.nashapobeda.lv/1306.html
11 April 2016 07:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
Sama asi siin müügil:
http://auction-su.com/-RPPS--------------Latvia-,name,2886505,auction_id,auction_detailshttp://auction-su.com/-RPPS--------------Latvia-,name,2886505,auction_id,auction_details
11 April 2016 07:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Oh, i gotta do some physical world things, many, today, will do these first and then for sure, in near days.. keep reminding me : )
11 April 2016 07:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
As it is the same school logo in soviet time, and they was and is in relation to moon child projects and much more..
11 April 2016 07:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Can You imagine, how bad would it have been, if this would to be happen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=padUp7LoteA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=padUp7LoteA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=padUp7LoteA
11 April 2016 07:07
Margus Meigo commented on Michel Bauwens's post.
Group: P2P
But the point is true..
https://youtu.be/AU2a4AfleTE?list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3&t=442https://youtu.be/AU2a4AfleTE?list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3&t=442
11 April 2016 07:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The say in the end:
https://youtu.be/AU2a4AfleTE?list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3&t=442
https://youtu.be/AU2a4AfleTE?list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3&t=442
https://youtu.be/AU2a4AfleTE?list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3&t=442
11 April 2016 07:06
Margus Meigo commented on Maddox Rules's photo.
Can anyone imagine the terror what we would had if that would have happened ?
11 April 2016 07:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And this, is just a subsiecton, point 10, for public:
10. Encourage and support the research and understanding of the phenomenon to move forward
● Promoting the research on this field at the European level and improve its knowledge, in addition to producing more studies with strong empirical support and implementing open data practices and share them as a common good, allowing otherwise indepth and prospective analysis
● Generate open access to public data on economic and social aspects, entrepreneurship, support actions, results , etc. (always respecting privacy data regulations).
● To organize working groups and other mechanisms for an indepth reflection and develop a broad perspective on the implications and potential of the collaborative commons model. Bringing the main conclusions to the council.
● To create the conditions to generate a report on the capacity of Europe regarding the regulation and promotion of the collaborative commons economy (identifying and analyzing relevant sectoral regulations and the availability of resources), in line with the regulatory actions and policies of promotion of different countries.
● To promote the investigation on this sector, reverting its present state of disregard, moreover promoting the generation and study of data, as an open and shared common good. To promote in depth and forecast trend analysis.
● To support demographic sectorial studies by different actors and with presence in the neighborhoods, based on values linked to the model and other related fields (education, tourism, employment, leisure, etc.)."
http://p2pfoundation.net/Policies_for_Commons_Collaborative_Economies_at_the_European_Level
10. Encourage and support the research and understanding of the phenomenon to move forward
● Promoting the research on this field at the European level and improve its knowledge, in addition to producing more studies with strong empirical support and implementing open data practices and share them as a common good, allowing otherwise indepth and prospective analysis
● Generate open access to public data on economic and social aspects, entrepreneurship, support actions, results , etc. (always respecting privacy data regulations).
● To organize working groups and other mechanisms for an indepth reflection and develop a broad perspective on the implications and potential of the collaborative commons model. Bringing the main conclusions to the council.
● To create the conditions to generate a report on the capacity of Europe regarding the regulation and promotion of the collaborative commons economy (identifying and analyzing relevant sectoral regulations and the availability of resources), in line with the regulatory actions and policies of promotion of different countries.
● To promote the investigation on this sector, reverting its present state of disregard, moreover promoting the generation and study of data, as an open and shared common good. To promote in depth and forecast trend analysis.
● To support demographic sectorial studies by different actors and with presence in the neighborhoods, based on values linked to the model and other related fields (education, tourism, employment, leisure, etc.)."
http://p2pfoundation.net/Policies_for_Commons_Collaborative_Economies_at_the_European_Level
http://p2pfoundation.net/Policies_for_Commons_Collaborative_Economies_at_the_European_Level
11 April 2016 06:56
Margus Meigo commented on Michel Bauwens's post.
Group: P2P
Why in a world they have to put pentagram on free willingly so early stage, ... this planet people sometimes just amuze you off the roof11 April 2016 06:54
Margus Meigo commented on Michel Bauwens's post.
Group: P2P
How fair is that : )11 April 2016 06:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Also another addition relation(readfull comments who is) :
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=280647395600251&id=100009649789337&comment_id=284147941916863&reply_comment_id=284467315218259¬if_t=feed_comment_reply¬if_id=1460277938249500
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=280647395600251&id=100009649789337&comment_id=284147941916863&reply_comment_id=284467315218259¬if_t=feed_comment_reply¬if_id=1460277938249500
11 April 2016 06:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Interesting, interesting way to see the end information about relation..
so by any way.. is it possible for You to see also, is the first item on the list, and this:
related some how or is it new spirit in there now ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Latvia
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9B%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%82
so by any way.. is it possible for You to see also, is the first item on the list, and this:
related some how or is it new spirit in there now ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Latvia
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9B%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%82
11 April 2016 06:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lisalugemist / mõtlemist, milleks see kasulik võib olla :
"ПЕРЕЧЕНЬ ФОНДОВ БЫВШЕГО ПАРТИЙНОГО АРХИВА
СИСТЕМАТИЗИРОВАННЫЙ В СООТВЕТСТВИИ С ПАРТИЙНОЙ СТРУКТУРОЙ"
http://archive.odessa.gov.ua/files/derjarhiv/EL_ARH/P/p-arhiv_perechen_daoo.pdf
"ПЕРЕЧЕНЬ ФОНДОВ БЫВШЕГО ПАРТИЙНОГО АРХИВА
СИСТЕМАТИЗИРОВАННЫЙ В СООТВЕТСТВИИ С ПАРТИЙНОЙ СТРУКТУРОЙ"
http://archive.odessa.gov.ua/files/derjarhiv/EL_ARH/P/p-arhiv_perechen_daoo.pdf
11 April 2016 06:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" All of us together: Muslims, Hindus, Catholics, Copts, Evangelicals. But all brothers and children of the same God…We want to live together in peace…We have different cultures and religions, but we are brothers and we want to live in peace
Pope Francis
Holy Thursday Mass, Vatican City 2016
The highly symbolic Easter ritual of washing the feet commemorates the rite that Jesus practiced with his Apostles before his Crucifixion. This year, eight men and four women were involved in the foot-washing. Three were Muslim, three were Coptic Christian women from Eritrea and one was Hindu. Francis said before washing and kissing the feet of the migrants."
http://amberweaves.tumblr.com/post/141651058508/all-of-us-together-muslims-hindus-catholics
Pope Francis
Holy Thursday Mass, Vatican City 2016
The highly symbolic Easter ritual of washing the feet commemorates the rite that Jesus practiced with his Apostles before his Crucifixion. This year, eight men and four women were involved in the foot-washing. Three were Muslim, three were Coptic Christian women from Eritrea and one was Hindu. Francis said before washing and kissing the feet of the migrants."
http://amberweaves.tumblr.com/post/141651058508/all-of-us-together-muslims-hindus-catholics
http://amberweaves.tumblr.com/post/141651058508/all-of-us-together-muslims-hindus-catholics
11 April 2016 06:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"..Francis, by stepping down a road towards judgment-free attitudes to forbidden sex, has put himself in the same dangerous position as that taken by Mikhail Gorbachev, the last general-secretary of the Soviet Communist Party, when he subjected the dogmas of communism to ever freer, ever more radical debate. Deserted by the orthodox who tried to depose him, outflanked by the radicals who marked him as irrelevant, the middle ground shrinking to nothing beneath his feet, Gorbachev, at the end of 1991, signed away the Soviet Union into history.
It’s unlikely that Francis will live to do the same to the Catholic Church: it’s been around much longer than was the Soviet Union, and is unlikely to crumble so easily. But dogma and ideology was and is central to the existence of both. A greater tolerance to the sins of the flesh emboldens the fleshly sinners to ask why they sin.
Once the secular world’s relaxed attitude about sexuality enters the calculations of “the supreme shepherd and teacher of all the faithful,” the church’s leaders must ask ever more awkward questions. One came from Bishop Palmer-Buckle of Accra: When a marriage, or a person, is wounded in an intimate relationship, what do you do?
The greatest of these questions is that which the pope asked himself — “Who are you to judge?” And once he has asked it, what is left?
It’s unlikely that Francis will live to do the same to the Catholic Church: it’s been around much longer than was the Soviet Union, and is unlikely to crumble so easily. But dogma and ideology was and is central to the existence of both. A greater tolerance to the sins of the flesh emboldens the fleshly sinners to ask why they sin.
Once the secular world’s relaxed attitude about sexuality enters the calculations of “the supreme shepherd and teacher of all the faithful,” the church’s leaders must ask ever more awkward questions. One came from Bishop Palmer-Buckle of Accra: When a marriage, or a person, is wounded in an intimate relationship, what do you do?
The greatest of these questions is that which the pope asked himself — “Who are you to judge?” And once he has asked it, what is left?
11 April 2016 06:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" ..One of these brothers (no sisters) will be Cardinal Peter Erdo, from Hungary, who probably doesn’t lose sleep over his flock’s weaknesses of the flesh, because he knows what to do with people in difficulties: apply the timeless law of the Church. In a 7,000 word speech on the synod’s first day, Erdo put the hardest of lines under contraception (none), gay marriage (forbidden) and re-admission to the central ceremonies of the Church after divorce (never). In the case “of a (consummated) sacramental marriage, after a divorce, a second marriage recognized by the Church is impossible.” Communion would be denied. The sinner must live with his, or her, sin — unless he or she atoned by renouncing all sexual activity.
As Erdo stands behind and for the conservatives, so does another middle European, Cardinal Walter Kasper of Germany, represent liberals. Kasper insists that the Church should allow the divorced to re-enter Catholic rites, constantly raising the issue of homosexuality as a state not to be condemned, but to be understood and accepted.
Sexuality, the force that the priests and cardinals commend for use only in marriage while abstaining from it themselves, now wreaks havoc with the Church. Modern secular life — the norm, in Western countries — allows sex ever-larger play, in relationships both deep and casual, in imagery, in entertainment, in education.
Threatened by these storms, the Church must either take refuge — as does Erdo — in timeless discipline, the way of the ascetic and the devout, faith strengthened by self-denial. Or it must go the way of Kasper, who said, when asked how to react to the Irish decision to allow same-sex unions, that: “A democratic state has the duty to respect the will of the people. And it seems clear that, if the majority of the people wants such homosexual unions, the state has a duty to recognize such rights.” He added that same-sex relationships “contain elements of the good.”
Before these increasingly stark alternatives, Pope Francis had famously put his position in the form of a question: “If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge?” The comment to reporters in July 2013 went around the world, underpinning the pope’s already burgeoning reputation as a man in tune with modernity, relaxed about sexuality, arms wide to welcome all.
But of course, the rhetorical question did have an answer. It is: “You’re the pope! You have to judge!” The Fisherman’s ring Francis slipped on his finger at his elevation to the papacy shows the Apostle Peter with the keys to heaven, symbolizing papal authority over the Universal Church.
The pope is, by virtue of his office, “the supreme shepherd and teacher of all the faithful” and his definitions “are pronounced with the assistance of the Holy Spirit,” according to a pronouncement from the Second Vatican Council in 1964. Vatican II, as it is also known, is famous for updating Church rules to allow people to eat meat on Fridays and for Mass to be celebrated in local languages, rather than only in Latin.
In fact, in a less-quoted part of the remarks to the journalists, Francis did proclaim a “doctrine of faith” — that is, that homosexual acts are sins (though being homosexual, he added, is not). In short, the pope (as far as Catholics are concerned) is the only person in the world with both the authority and the duty to judge on life’s supreme issues.
As Erdo stands behind and for the conservatives, so does another middle European, Cardinal Walter Kasper of Germany, represent liberals. Kasper insists that the Church should allow the divorced to re-enter Catholic rites, constantly raising the issue of homosexuality as a state not to be condemned, but to be understood and accepted.
Sexuality, the force that the priests and cardinals commend for use only in marriage while abstaining from it themselves, now wreaks havoc with the Church. Modern secular life — the norm, in Western countries — allows sex ever-larger play, in relationships both deep and casual, in imagery, in entertainment, in education.
Threatened by these storms, the Church must either take refuge — as does Erdo — in timeless discipline, the way of the ascetic and the devout, faith strengthened by self-denial. Or it must go the way of Kasper, who said, when asked how to react to the Irish decision to allow same-sex unions, that: “A democratic state has the duty to respect the will of the people. And it seems clear that, if the majority of the people wants such homosexual unions, the state has a duty to recognize such rights.” He added that same-sex relationships “contain elements of the good.”
Before these increasingly stark alternatives, Pope Francis had famously put his position in the form of a question: “If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge?” The comment to reporters in July 2013 went around the world, underpinning the pope’s already burgeoning reputation as a man in tune with modernity, relaxed about sexuality, arms wide to welcome all.
But of course, the rhetorical question did have an answer. It is: “You’re the pope! You have to judge!” The Fisherman’s ring Francis slipped on his finger at his elevation to the papacy shows the Apostle Peter with the keys to heaven, symbolizing papal authority over the Universal Church.
The pope is, by virtue of his office, “the supreme shepherd and teacher of all the faithful” and his definitions “are pronounced with the assistance of the Holy Spirit,” according to a pronouncement from the Second Vatican Council in 1964. Vatican II, as it is also known, is famous for updating Church rules to allow people to eat meat on Fridays and for Mass to be celebrated in local languages, rather than only in Latin.
In fact, in a less-quoted part of the remarks to the journalists, Francis did proclaim a “doctrine of faith” — that is, that homosexual acts are sins (though being homosexual, he added, is not). In short, the pope (as far as Catholics are concerned) is the only person in the world with both the authority and the duty to judge on life’s supreme issues.
11 April 2016 06:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Paavst tõstis esile Kuuba rolli. “Kui nii edasi läheb, saab Kuubast ühtsuse pealinn.”
Franciscus aitas vahendada Kuuba-USA suhete normaliseerimise kokkulepet. Havanna võõrustab alates 2012. aasta novembrist Colombia valitsuse ja sissirühmituse Colombia Revolutsioonilised Relvajõud (FARC) rahukõnelusi.
Kohtumise algul suudlesid Franciscus (79) ja Kirill (69) teineteist kolm korda põsele ja embasid.
“Viimaks me kohtume. Me oleme vennad,” ütles paavst patriarhile. Kirill vastas: “Nüüd on asjad lihtsamad. See on Jumala tahe.”
Paavst tegi Kuubal vahepeatuse Mehhikosse suundudes, Kirill on saareriigis ametlikul visiidil.
Tegemist oli kahe suurema ristiusukiriku juhtide esimese kohtumisega pärast 1054. aasta kirikulõhet...."
Pilte:
https://www.google.ee/search?q=Francis+kirill&num=100&newwindow=1&sa=X&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&imgil=WovtM0IY4cYVZM%253A%253BMCdIngSBSCI1GM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Findianexpress.com%25252Farticle%25252Fworld%25252Fworld-news%25252Fthis-is-the-will-of-god-pope-francis-meets-russian-orthodox-leader-patriarch-kirill%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=WovtM0IY4cYVZM%253A%252CMCdIngSBSCI1GM%252C_&usg=__YFhbKiynixNbDZTHWanu3OrjOjc%3D#imgrc=WovtM0IY4cYVZM%3A
Franciscus aitas vahendada Kuuba-USA suhete normaliseerimise kokkulepet. Havanna võõrustab alates 2012. aasta novembrist Colombia valitsuse ja sissirühmituse Colombia Revolutsioonilised Relvajõud (FARC) rahukõnelusi.
Kohtumise algul suudlesid Franciscus (79) ja Kirill (69) teineteist kolm korda põsele ja embasid.
“Viimaks me kohtume. Me oleme vennad,” ütles paavst patriarhile. Kirill vastas: “Nüüd on asjad lihtsamad. See on Jumala tahe.”
Paavst tegi Kuubal vahepeatuse Mehhikosse suundudes, Kirill on saareriigis ametlikul visiidil.
Tegemist oli kahe suurema ristiusukiriku juhtide esimese kohtumisega pärast 1054. aasta kirikulõhet...."
Pilte:
https://www.google.ee/search?q=Francis+kirill&num=100&newwindow=1&sa=X&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&imgil=WovtM0IY4cYVZM%253A%253BMCdIngSBSCI1GM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Findianexpress.com%25252Farticle%25252Fworld%25252Fworld-news%25252Fthis-is-the-will-of-god-pope-francis-meets-russian-orthodox-leader-patriarch-kirill%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=WovtM0IY4cYVZM%253A%252CMCdIngSBSCI1GM%252C_&usg=__YFhbKiynixNbDZTHWanu3OrjOjc%3D#imgrc=WovtM0IY4cYVZM%3A
11 April 2016 06:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2016/february/why-pope-francis-patriarch-kirill-cuba-catholic-orthodox.html
http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2016/february/why-pope-francis-patriarch-kirill-cuba-catholic-orthodox.html
11 April 2016 06:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
11 April 2016 06:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// but our one time is multiple planes same time so it's reasonable (from my perspective)
11 April 2016 01:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Takes my kind only one time average,
the ones who not able to do it right in first time will be dismissed as not worthy to continue
the ones who not able to do it right in first time will be dismissed as not worthy to continue
11 April 2016 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Do You think we can disprove with ease, most of the Equlness of these calculations and imaginations with ease when taking in to account real worlds and religion and women higher meaning, nature with out man or man as ONE OF OPTIONAL nature tool as bacteria ?
Or is some of them all mentioned here and before, for sure well thought out from the perspective of the higher then a man or in full man world spectrum taking in to account of total surrender of this what comes after perfect man world ?
Or is some of them all mentioned here and before, for sure well thought out from the perspective of the higher then a man or in full man world spectrum taking in to account of total surrender of this what comes after perfect man world ?
10 April 2016 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on Stella Bond's photo.
Unless peeps want to end up in a bag goo.gl/Hyu0Yf then should stop joking about
http://goo.gl/Hyu0Yf
10 April 2016 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on Oliver Kuusik's post.
Wau
10 April 2016 22:25
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's post.
When one million will meet him on airport and block away hes access... to hes home. that would be great also
10 April 2016 22:24
Margus Meigo commented on Sille Klementi's photo.
mida kõike mehed nõus tegema on :D
10 April 2016 22:15
Margus Meigo commented on Liina Vesso's photo.
ja mõelda vaid kui mõtetuks koledaks kolaks enamus neist koolab kui jätta nad mitmekümneks aastaks seisma.. samal ajal kui kivid... puud.,. ja isegi tlaumajad, kui need räämuvad jäävad nad ikkagi armsaks.
Sellel isenfil muidugi kehakuju on meeldivalt voolujooneline ja kena, et jääb vist ilusaks ka siis kui lilled läbi kasvavad, nagu need kunagised iidsed autod mist üle 50 aasta tagasi tehti suurejooneliselt ameerikas
Sellel isenfil muidugi kehakuju on meeldivalt voolujooneline ja kena, et jääb vist ilusaks ka siis kui lilled läbi kasvavad, nagu need kunagised iidsed autod mist üle 50 aasta tagasi tehti suurejooneliselt ameerikas
10 April 2016 22:14
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek Masing's photo.
Üks 4-5 aastane DJ on päris kuulus juba Lõuna afrikas, et uudistes siin isegi oli to
10 April 2016 22:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But the first one with the inner symbol, what information relates to that?
10 April 2016 21:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And to make mistake about the flower is much more important at times then to not know any of the systems mentioned before
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207962032545402&set=p.10207962032545402&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207962032545402&set=p.10207962032545402&type=3&theater
10 April 2016 21:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
actually She was on everyday feel ("sober")
10 April 2016 13:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
add any extra properties, notes to any of these here as that comes ... and Use facebook "on that year" feature, to re-enable this post again and again on walls on future times,
great resource and directions : )
great resource and directions : )
10 April 2016 11:42
Margus Meigo commented on Pac Manian's photo.
Great Game : )
10 April 2016 11:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Any usages or properties in life or geometry ?
10 April 2016 11:34
Margus Meigo commented on Pac Manian's photo.
10 April 2016 11:33
Margus Meigo commented on Pac Manian's photo.
10 April 2016 11:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Can let it flow : )
10 April 2016 11:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
13
When the third Hierarchy, which Lucifer destroyed and depopulated, shall be completely filled again with Inhabitants from the Children of Adam, Good and Evil shall be separated, Time shall be no more, and GOD shall be All in All. This third Hierarchy, which, for good Reasons, was always hitherto represented as inferior to those of Michael and Uriel, is now here again exalted above them in the supremest Place: For as the Hierarch Jesus Christ, being the Brightness of GOD the Father's Glory, and the express Image of His Person, excels all the Angels, and has by Inheritance obtained a more excellent Name than they, who are all to worship Him, and to none of whom HE ever said, as HE said to Him, Sit on my Right Hand, until I make Thine enemies Thy Footstool, (Heb. 1) so also His subjects in this Hierarchy, surpass all the Holy Angels in this,that they are Images of GOD, as manifested in all the three Principles, when the Holy Angels are only his Images, as HE was manifested in two of them: Wherefore also they are distinguished from the Angels by this peculiar character [the circled Stars of David] which is not contrived by human Speculation, but is written in the Book of Nature by the Finger of God; for it points directly, not only at the Creation of this third Principle in six Days; but also at fallen and divorced Adam's Reunion with the Divine Virgin SOPHIA.
To those who are more like (though not in their outward Shape) the Animals of this World than Men, nothing is to be said of these and the like Things, because they are Spiritual, and must be Spiritually discerned.
When the third Hierarchy, which Lucifer destroyed and depopulated, shall be completely filled again with Inhabitants from the Children of Adam, Good and Evil shall be separated, Time shall be no more, and GOD shall be All in All. This third Hierarchy, which, for good Reasons, was always hitherto represented as inferior to those of Michael and Uriel, is now here again exalted above them in the supremest Place: For as the Hierarch Jesus Christ, being the Brightness of GOD the Father's Glory, and the express Image of His Person, excels all the Angels, and has by Inheritance obtained a more excellent Name than they, who are all to worship Him, and to none of whom HE ever said, as HE said to Him, Sit on my Right Hand, until I make Thine enemies Thy Footstool, (Heb. 1) so also His subjects in this Hierarchy, surpass all the Holy Angels in this,that they are Images of GOD, as manifested in all the three Principles, when the Holy Angels are only his Images, as HE was manifested in two of them: Wherefore also they are distinguished from the Angels by this peculiar character [the circled Stars of David] which is not contrived by human Speculation, but is written in the Book of Nature by the Finger of God; for it points directly, not only at the Creation of this third Principle in six Days; but also at fallen and divorced Adam's Reunion with the Divine Virgin SOPHIA.
To those who are more like (though not in their outward Shape) the Animals of this World than Men, nothing is to be said of these and the like Things, because they are Spiritual, and must be Spiritually discerned.
10 April 2016 11:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
12
" From the Time in which that Breaker, prophesied of by Micah, was come up before us, the Gate stood open, that the First Adam's Children could follow Him and enter into Paradise, which could not be done by any Soul before that Time. Holy Souls, both before and after the Deluge, that lived according to the Dictates of the Word treasured up in their Hearts, could, in their Departure from this World, go so far as to the Gate of Paradise, but Entrance could not be had by any one, till the First-Born from the Dead was entered in HIS own Person.
Yet is there still a vast Difference between Souls in their Departure from this World; and this Difference wholly depends upon the real State and Condition of that significant Character, which was spoken of before; for those Souls that have attained it in this Life to Perfection, or in other Words, those that here have put on the Heavenly Substantiality of Jesus Christ, meet with no Obstacle in their Passage. Those in whom that Character is more or less defective, meet with more or less Impediment; and those that have nothing at all of it, cannot go any further than into that Region, which most significantly is called the Triangle in Nature. O that there were none such at all!
" From the Time in which that Breaker, prophesied of by Micah, was come up before us, the Gate stood open, that the First Adam's Children could follow Him and enter into Paradise, which could not be done by any Soul before that Time. Holy Souls, both before and after the Deluge, that lived according to the Dictates of the Word treasured up in their Hearts, could, in their Departure from this World, go so far as to the Gate of Paradise, but Entrance could not be had by any one, till the First-Born from the Dead was entered in HIS own Person.
Yet is there still a vast Difference between Souls in their Departure from this World; and this Difference wholly depends upon the real State and Condition of that significant Character, which was spoken of before; for those Souls that have attained it in this Life to Perfection, or in other Words, those that here have put on the Heavenly Substantiality of Jesus Christ, meet with no Obstacle in their Passage. Those in whom that Character is more or less defective, meet with more or less Impediment; and those that have nothing at all of it, cannot go any further than into that Region, which most significantly is called the Triangle in Nature. O that there were none such at all!
10 April 2016 11:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
11
"Here Adam, in the same Place as before, appears again, but in Union with Christ, which is to be referred to the Person of Jesus Christ, or of the second Adam in our Humanity upon Earth; and is to show the absolute Necessity of His Holy Incarnation, and immaculate Sacrifice for all Mankind, without which the great Work of our Regeneration and Reunion with SOPHIA could not have been wrought out to Perfection. In His Incarnation He brought that most significant Character, which the first Adam had lost, into the Humanity again, but first in His own Human Person, although it could not be visible in Him from without, whilst He was upon Earth a Man like unto us in all Things, Sins excepted. And therefore He, and even He alone, was able and sufficient to go for us into Death, to kill Death in His own Death, to break in His Passage the Hook and Sting of Satan, to enter into, and through his dark Territory, to bruise the Serpent's Head, and to ascend up on high, to take possession of His Throne, whereby the Prophecy of Micah 2:13 was fulfilled: "The Breaker is come up before them."
"Here Adam, in the same Place as before, appears again, but in Union with Christ, which is to be referred to the Person of Jesus Christ, or of the second Adam in our Humanity upon Earth; and is to show the absolute Necessity of His Holy Incarnation, and immaculate Sacrifice for all Mankind, without which the great Work of our Regeneration and Reunion with SOPHIA could not have been wrought out to Perfection. In His Incarnation He brought that most significant Character, which the first Adam had lost, into the Humanity again, but first in His own Human Person, although it could not be visible in Him from without, whilst He was upon Earth a Man like unto us in all Things, Sins excepted. And therefore He, and even He alone, was able and sufficient to go for us into Death, to kill Death in His own Death, to break in His Passage the Hook and Sting of Satan, to enter into, and through his dark Territory, to bruise the Serpent's Head, and to ascend up on high, to take possession of His Throne, whereby the Prophecy of Micah 2:13 was fulfilled: "The Breaker is come up before them."
10 April 2016 11:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10
"Here Adam, by that Word of Grace treasured up in his Heart, whose Name is JESUS, is raised again so far, that he can stand above the earthly Globe, upon the Basis of a fiery Triangle, which is an excellent Emblem of his own Soul, and the Holy Name JESUS stands above him upon the Top of a watery Triangle, and these two Triangles, which in Adam's Fall were divorced from each other, do now touch each other again, though (in this Beginning) but in one Point: that the Soul's Desire may draw down into itself the [upper triangle] and that Holy Name may draw up into itself more and more the [lower triangle] till these two make a complete [Star of David] the most significant Character in all the Universe: For only then the Work of Regeneration and Reunion with SOPHIA will be absolved. And although, during this mortal Life, no such Perfection of the whole Man can be wrought out, yet is it attainable in the inward Part; and whatsoever seems to be an Obstruction (even SIN NOT EXCEPTED) must, for this very End, WORK TOGETHER FOR GOOD TO THEM THAT LOVE GOD. Praised be His Triune Holy, Holy, Holy Name, in this Time, and throughout all the Extent and Duration of Eternity.
"Here Adam, by that Word of Grace treasured up in his Heart, whose Name is JESUS, is raised again so far, that he can stand above the earthly Globe, upon the Basis of a fiery Triangle, which is an excellent Emblem of his own Soul, and the Holy Name JESUS stands above him upon the Top of a watery Triangle, and these two Triangles, which in Adam's Fall were divorced from each other, do now touch each other again, though (in this Beginning) but in one Point: that the Soul's Desire may draw down into itself the [upper triangle] and that Holy Name may draw up into itself more and more the [lower triangle] till these two make a complete [Star of David] the most significant Character in all the Universe: For only then the Work of Regeneration and Reunion with SOPHIA will be absolved. And although, during this mortal Life, no such Perfection of the whole Man can be wrought out, yet is it attainable in the inward Part; and whatsoever seems to be an Obstruction (even SIN NOT EXCEPTED) must, for this very End, WORK TOGETHER FOR GOOD TO THEM THAT LOVE GOD. Praised be His Triune Holy, Holy, Holy Name, in this Time, and throughout all the Extent and Duration of Eternity.
10 April 2016 11:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
extra 9
"Here now is poor Adam fallen away from all his former Happiness and Glory, and has lost whatsoever was good and desirable both in himself and round about him: He lies as dead, on the outmost Borders of the Spirit of this World. SOPHIA has forsaken him, or rather he, having dealt treacherously, has forsaken Her, and the Holy Band of the Marriage-Covenant that was between them is dissolved: He is all over dark, and lies even under the Earth, over which he was to rule: All the Stars shoot their Influences upon him, of which the very best are but Death and Poison to that Life for which he was created: And nothing less could he expect, but that every Moment he should be quite drawn down and swallowed up in the Belly of Satan. This was his State and Condition after his Transgression, and before he heard the Word of Free Grace, that the Woman's Seed should bruise the Serpent's Head.
"Here now is poor Adam fallen away from all his former Happiness and Glory, and has lost whatsoever was good and desirable both in himself and round about him: He lies as dead, on the outmost Borders of the Spirit of this World. SOPHIA has forsaken him, or rather he, having dealt treacherously, has forsaken Her, and the Holy Band of the Marriage-Covenant that was between them is dissolved: He is all over dark, and lies even under the Earth, over which he was to rule: All the Stars shoot their Influences upon him, of which the very best are but Death and Poison to that Life for which he was created: And nothing less could he expect, but that every Moment he should be quite drawn down and swallowed up in the Belly of Satan. This was his State and Condition after his Transgression, and before he heard the Word of Free Grace, that the Woman's Seed should bruise the Serpent's Head.
10 April 2016 11:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
extra 8
"This ADAM, though he was indeed created in a State of Innocence, Purity, Integrity and Perfection, could not yet stand on that Top of Perfection which he was designed for, and would have been drawn up into, if he had stood his Trial, for which there was an absolute Necessity. Three Things there were that laid claim to Adam, and though they stood within him in an equal Temperature, yet did they not so without him, for Lucifer had made a Breach.
These three Things were, (1.) above him, SOPHIA, called (Malachi 2:14) his Companion, and the Wife of his Youth. (2.) SATAN, that uncreated Dark Root in the Beginningless Beginning of Eternal Nature. And (3.) The SPIRIT OF THIS WORLD. And herein lies the Ground of the Necessity of Adam's Temptation.
In this Consideration the Devil comes yet not in, though he is not far out of the Way; nor the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil; because this was but a necessary Consequence of Adam's wavering, and dealing treacherously with the Wife of his Youth.
"This ADAM, though he was indeed created in a State of Innocence, Purity, Integrity and Perfection, could not yet stand on that Top of Perfection which he was designed for, and would have been drawn up into, if he had stood his Trial, for which there was an absolute Necessity. Three Things there were that laid claim to Adam, and though they stood within him in an equal Temperature, yet did they not so without him, for Lucifer had made a Breach.
These three Things were, (1.) above him, SOPHIA, called (Malachi 2:14) his Companion, and the Wife of his Youth. (2.) SATAN, that uncreated Dark Root in the Beginningless Beginning of Eternal Nature. And (3.) The SPIRIT OF THIS WORLD. And herein lies the Ground of the Necessity of Adam's Temptation.
In this Consideration the Devil comes yet not in, though he is not far out of the Way; nor the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil; because this was but a necessary Consequence of Adam's wavering, and dealing treacherously with the Wife of his Youth.
10 April 2016 11:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
extra 7
When Lucifer by his Rebellion had brought the whole Extent of his Kingdom into such a desolate Condition, that it was, as Moses describes it, without Form and Void, and Darkness was upon the Face of the Deep, that whole Region was justly taken away from under his Dominion, and transformed into such another meaner and temporary Condition, that it could no more be of any use to him. And when this was fully settled in Six Days Time, according to the Six Active Spirits of the Eternal Nature, so that it needed nothing more but a Prince and Ruler, instead of him who had forsaken his Habitation in the Light, ADAM was created in the Image and Likeness of GOD, an Epitome, or Compendium, of the whole Universe, by the VERBUM FIAT, which was the Eternal Word, in Conjunction with the first Astringent Fountain-Spirit of Eternal Nature.
When Lucifer by his Rebellion had brought the whole Extent of his Kingdom into such a desolate Condition, that it was, as Moses describes it, without Form and Void, and Darkness was upon the Face of the Deep, that whole Region was justly taken away from under his Dominion, and transformed into such another meaner and temporary Condition, that it could no more be of any use to him. And when this was fully settled in Six Days Time, according to the Six Active Spirits of the Eternal Nature, so that it needed nothing more but a Prince and Ruler, instead of him who had forsaken his Habitation in the Light, ADAM was created in the Image and Likeness of GOD, an Epitome, or Compendium, of the whole Universe, by the VERBUM FIAT, which was the Eternal Word, in Conjunction with the first Astringent Fountain-Spirit of Eternal Nature.
10 April 2016 11:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
31 extra six
Here now one of those three Hierarchs, even the most glorious of them, because he was the Created Representative of GOD the Son, commits High Treason, revolts, lets his dark, proud Will-Spirit, in a false Magia, without any Occasion given him from without, out of his own Center fly up on high, above God and all the Hosts of Heaven, to be himself All in All; but he is resisted, and precipitated down, and falls through the Fire into Eternal Darkness, in which he is a mighty Prince over his own Legions, but in reality a poor Prisoner, and an infamous Executioner of the Wrath of God; and may now well be reproached, and asked, How art thou fallen from Heaven, O Lucifer, Son of the Morning? To which Question a profound, prolix, distinct, most particular and circumstantial Answer is given, in the Aurora, to his eternal Shame and Confusion, which he had hid and covered from the Beginning of the World.
Here now one of those three Hierarchs, even the most glorious of them, because he was the Created Representative of GOD the Son, commits High Treason, revolts, lets his dark, proud Will-Spirit, in a false Magia, without any Occasion given him from without, out of his own Center fly up on high, above God and all the Hosts of Heaven, to be himself All in All; but he is resisted, and precipitated down, and falls through the Fire into Eternal Darkness, in which he is a mighty Prince over his own Legions, but in reality a poor Prisoner, and an infamous Executioner of the Wrath of God; and may now well be reproached, and asked, How art thou fallen from Heaven, O Lucifer, Son of the Morning? To which Question a profound, prolix, distinct, most particular and circumstantial Answer is given, in the Aurora, to his eternal Shame and Confusion, which he had hid and covered from the Beginning of the World.
10 April 2016 11:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
extra 5
The first four Figures were to show, in some Manner (according to the deep and wonderful Manifestation of the Divine Spirit, given to Jacob Behmen) the Generation of Eternal Nature, which has a Beginning without Beginning, and an End without End.
This fifth represents now, that this great Royal Residence, or Divine Habitation of Glory, of GOD the Father, GOD the Son and GOD the Holy Ghost, was replenished at once with innumerable Inhabitants, All Glorious Flames of Fire, All Children of GOD, and All Ministering Spirits, divided in Three Hierarchies (each of such an Extent, that no Limits can be perceived, and yet not infinite) according to the Holy Number Three. But we know the Names only of two of them, which are Michael and Uriel. because only these two, with all their hosts, kept their habitation in the Light.
The first four Figures were to show, in some Manner (according to the deep and wonderful Manifestation of the Divine Spirit, given to Jacob Behmen) the Generation of Eternal Nature, which has a Beginning without Beginning, and an End without End.
This fifth represents now, that this great Royal Residence, or Divine Habitation of Glory, of GOD the Father, GOD the Son and GOD the Holy Ghost, was replenished at once with innumerable Inhabitants, All Glorious Flames of Fire, All Children of GOD, and All Ministering Spirits, divided in Three Hierarchies (each of such an Extent, that no Limits can be perceived, and yet not infinite) according to the Holy Number Three. But we know the Names only of two of them, which are Michael and Uriel. because only these two, with all their hosts, kept their habitation in the Light.
10 April 2016 11:02
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extra 4
" The three Exalted, Tinctured or Transmuted Properties on the Right Hand. The Kingdom of Love, Light and Glory.
The Second Principle.
The Second Temperature, or Temperature in Substantiality.
The Trinity manifested, which only now can be an Object of a created Understanding. Byss. Wisdom. Tincture.
" The three Exalted, Tinctured or Transmuted Properties on the Right Hand. The Kingdom of Love, Light and Glory.
The Second Principle.
The Second Temperature, or Temperature in Substantiality.
The Trinity manifested, which only now can be an Object of a created Understanding. Byss. Wisdom. Tincture.
10 April 2016 11:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
extra 2:
The three first (Sal, Sulphur and Mercury).
The Triangle in Nature.
The inferior, restless Part of Nature.
The Properties of Darkness. The Root of Fire.
The Wheel of Nature.
The Three Properties on the Left Hand, appropriable in a Sense to Father, Son and Spirit.
The Hellish World, if in a Creature divorced from the Three on the Right.
N.B. Virgin……Opposite to what in the Light World is called Virgin Wisdom.
The three first (Sal, Sulphur and Mercury).
The Triangle in Nature.
The inferior, restless Part of Nature.
The Properties of Darkness. The Root of Fire.
The Wheel of Nature.
The Three Properties on the Left Hand, appropriable in a Sense to Father, Son and Spirit.
The Hellish World, if in a Creature divorced from the Three on the Right.
N.B. Virgin……Opposite to what in the Light World is called Virgin Wisdom.
10 April 2016 10:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
31. extra 1
"God without all Nature and Creature.
The unformed Word in Trinity without all Nature. (see Mysterium Magnum ch4:8)
The Eternal Unity, or Oneness, deeper than any Thought can reach.
Alpha and Omega; the Eternal Beginning and Eternal End, the First and the Last.
The great Softness, Meekness, Stillness, etc.
Nothing and All. Eternal Liberty.
Abyss, without Ground, Time, and Place.
The Still Eternity. Mysterium Magnum without Nature. Chaos.
The Mirror of Wonders, or Wonderful Eye of Eternity.
The first Temperature, or Temperature in Nothingness; a calm, serene Habitation; but without all Luster and Glory.
The Trinity unmanifest; or rather, the Triune Unsearchable Being, which cannot be an object of any created Understanding.
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"God without all Nature and Creature.
The unformed Word in Trinity without all Nature. (see Mysterium Magnum ch4:8)
The Eternal Unity, or Oneness, deeper than any Thought can reach.
Alpha and Omega; the Eternal Beginning and Eternal End, the First and the Last.
The great Softness, Meekness, Stillness, etc.
Nothing and All. Eternal Liberty.
Abyss, without Ground, Time, and Place.
The Still Eternity. Mysterium Magnum without Nature. Chaos.
The Mirror of Wonders, or Wonderful Eye of Eternity.
The first Temperature, or Temperature in Nothingness; a calm, serene Habitation; but without all Luster and Glory.
The Trinity unmanifest; or rather, the Triune Unsearchable Being, which cannot be an object of any created Understanding.
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10 April 2016 10:58
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"Below are the thirteen diagrams from Dionysius Freher's An Illustration of the Deep Principles of Jacob Behmen, the Teutonic Theosopher, published 1764 in the William Law edition of Boehme's Works. Click on images for larger view and explanatory notes."
"The Fourth Property of the Eternal Nature.
The Magic Fire. The Fire World.
The Third Principle.
The Generation of the Cross.
The Strength, Might and Power of Eternal Nature.
The Abyss's or Eternal Liberty's Opening in the Dark World, breaking and consuming all the strong Attraction of Darkness.
The Distinguishing Mark, standing in the Midst between three and three, looking with the first terrible Crack (made in the first, gross and rough hardness) into the Dark World; and with the second joyful Crack (made in the second, soft, watery or conquered Harshness) into the Light World; and giving unto each what it is capable of, viz., Might, Strength, Terror, etc. unto the former, but Light, Splendour, Luster and Glory, unto the latter."
http://www.jacobboehmeonline.com/william_law
"Below are the thirteen diagrams from Dionysius Freher's An Illustration of the Deep Principles of Jacob Behmen, the Teutonic Theosopher, published 1764 in the William Law edition of Boehme's Works. Click on images for larger view and explanatory notes."
"The Fourth Property of the Eternal Nature.
The Magic Fire. The Fire World.
The Third Principle.
The Generation of the Cross.
The Strength, Might and Power of Eternal Nature.
The Abyss's or Eternal Liberty's Opening in the Dark World, breaking and consuming all the strong Attraction of Darkness.
The Distinguishing Mark, standing in the Midst between three and three, looking with the first terrible Crack (made in the first, gross and rough hardness) into the Dark World; and with the second joyful Crack (made in the second, soft, watery or conquered Harshness) into the Light World; and giving unto each what it is capable of, viz., Might, Strength, Terror, etc. unto the former, but Light, Splendour, Luster and Glory, unto the latter."
http://www.jacobboehmeonline.com/william_law
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"he Chi-Rho emblem can be viewed as the first Christian Cross.
As a pre-Christian symbol, the Chi-rho signified good fortune. The Chi ro became an important Christian symbol when adopted by the Roman Emperor Constantine, representing the first two letters in the name of Christ- the Chi, or ‘ch,’ and Rho, or ‘r.’ According to Church Father Eusebius, on the eve of the Battle of the Milvan Bridge, the Emperor saw the emblem in a dream, with the inscription, “By this sign, you shall conquer.” According to the story, the battle was won. In return for the victory, Constantine legalized the religion and erected Christian churches.
There is some speculation that the ‘sign’ witnessed by Constantine was an occurrence of the sun dogs phenomena.
Unfortunately, this story is very unlikely, as Constantine’s conversion occured on his deathbed, if at all. In any case, the symbol was the standard of the Emperor’s army, prominently displayed on the Emperor’s labarum, or battle standard.
Before it became the monogram of Christ, the chi rho was the monogram of Chronos (whose name also begins with a Chi-rho), the god of time, and an emblem of several solar deities.
The Chi-ro is also the origin of the tradition of abbreviating “Christ” in “christian” or “Christmas” to “X.” The small letters in the image are the alpha and omega.
In Hebrew, Chi-Rho equates to Tav-Resh. The chi rho was used in hermetic alchemical texts to denote time."
http://symboldictionary.net/?p=2043
http://symboldictionary.net/?page_id=2035
"he Chi-Rho emblem can be viewed as the first Christian Cross.
As a pre-Christian symbol, the Chi-rho signified good fortune. The Chi ro became an important Christian symbol when adopted by the Roman Emperor Constantine, representing the first two letters in the name of Christ- the Chi, or ‘ch,’ and Rho, or ‘r.’ According to Church Father Eusebius, on the eve of the Battle of the Milvan Bridge, the Emperor saw the emblem in a dream, with the inscription, “By this sign, you shall conquer.” According to the story, the battle was won. In return for the victory, Constantine legalized the religion and erected Christian churches.
There is some speculation that the ‘sign’ witnessed by Constantine was an occurrence of the sun dogs phenomena.
Unfortunately, this story is very unlikely, as Constantine’s conversion occured on his deathbed, if at all. In any case, the symbol was the standard of the Emperor’s army, prominently displayed on the Emperor’s labarum, or battle standard.
Before it became the monogram of Christ, the chi rho was the monogram of Chronos (whose name also begins with a Chi-rho), the god of time, and an emblem of several solar deities.
The Chi-ro is also the origin of the tradition of abbreviating “Christ” in “christian” or “Christmas” to “X.” The small letters in the image are the alpha and omega.
In Hebrew, Chi-Rho equates to Tav-Resh. The chi rho was used in hermetic alchemical texts to denote time."
http://symboldictionary.net/?p=2043
http://symboldictionary.net/?page_id=2035
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You amazing on it, but will not try to flatter you not to much to not get You astray
10 April 2016 10:41
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28.
From Internets:
http://www.templeoftheola.org/septimontium.html
"The Septimontium was a Roman festival of the seven hills of Rome. It was celebrated in September (or, according to late calendars, on 11 December). They sacrificed seven animals at seven times in seven different places within the walls of the city near the seven hills. On that day the emperors were very liberal to the people. During the Septimontium in the Republican period, Romans refrained from operating horse-drawn carriages"
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimontium
OTO Beast
OTO call themselves Gnostics, yet they are deeply patriarchal. They only let women join to use them as naked altars during their perverted version of the Gnostic Mass. They worship the Sun and Cocks, and that is it. They do know some things about tantric sex magick, yet they tell the women that they will benefit too, when it is all for the men. One of their initiations is for men only, because they are a gay anti-woman Order, and it involves shoving a massive golden cock up their arse over the altar, which they are then told to place on the altar and worship everyday. Cock worship.
If you look at the symbol above the seven pointed star as two points upwards which represents the feminine, and one point downwards, representing the masculine, which is surrounded by 666 the number of the beast, the beast being man. The number for women is 333. Then on top of the feminine star we see a massive cock made up by the infinity symbol, the crescent Moon and the Sun symbol. It isn't hard to see this is a big cock and balls looked at from above. Placed on top of the feminine two points up star to represent man's domination over women, and the hiding of the truth about the Mother Goddess, who is the true creator.
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How does Wicca fit into this?
Wicca also is an off-shoot of Freemasonry, they just don't realise this. So yet again it is all about the Roman Catholic Church, and keeping them in power, as they give the women a little bit of this and that to keep them out the way, while the truth is yet again kept hidden from them.
The seven pointed star is known among Pagans as the Elven Star or Fairy Star, it has the same meaning as the star of Babalon, the seven hills of Rome and the Roman Catholic Church.
Summery
The seven pointed star is not an evil symbol, it can mean anything to you as an individual, however it is being used as magick talisman for the Roman Catholic Church, to keep them in power. As always symbols from the spiritual royalties Mystery School are used against the people, instead of for positive purposes, as used to be the way. People think they are getting involved with something completely not connected to the RC Church, but when you do some digging you find the links. It is very easy to find the link between Wicca, OTO and Freemasonry, it is made a little harder to find the link to the RC Church, however once you are aware that these people have been controlling the world, and all forms for religion and spirituality for thousands of years, in order to keep the general population unaware and unenlightened, you can start to join the dots.
From Internets:
http://www.templeoftheola.org/septimontium.html
"The Septimontium was a Roman festival of the seven hills of Rome. It was celebrated in September (or, according to late calendars, on 11 December). They sacrificed seven animals at seven times in seven different places within the walls of the city near the seven hills. On that day the emperors were very liberal to the people. During the Septimontium in the Republican period, Romans refrained from operating horse-drawn carriages"
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimontium
OTO Beast
OTO call themselves Gnostics, yet they are deeply patriarchal. They only let women join to use them as naked altars during their perverted version of the Gnostic Mass. They worship the Sun and Cocks, and that is it. They do know some things about tantric sex magick, yet they tell the women that they will benefit too, when it is all for the men. One of their initiations is for men only, because they are a gay anti-woman Order, and it involves shoving a massive golden cock up their arse over the altar, which they are then told to place on the altar and worship everyday. Cock worship.
If you look at the symbol above the seven pointed star as two points upwards which represents the feminine, and one point downwards, representing the masculine, which is surrounded by 666 the number of the beast, the beast being man. The number for women is 333. Then on top of the feminine star we see a massive cock made up by the infinity symbol, the crescent Moon and the Sun symbol. It isn't hard to see this is a big cock and balls looked at from above. Placed on top of the feminine two points up star to represent man's domination over women, and the hiding of the truth about the Mother Goddess, who is the true creator.
Picture
How does Wicca fit into this?
Wicca also is an off-shoot of Freemasonry, they just don't realise this. So yet again it is all about the Roman Catholic Church, and keeping them in power, as they give the women a little bit of this and that to keep them out the way, while the truth is yet again kept hidden from them.
The seven pointed star is known among Pagans as the Elven Star or Fairy Star, it has the same meaning as the star of Babalon, the seven hills of Rome and the Roman Catholic Church.
Summery
The seven pointed star is not an evil symbol, it can mean anything to you as an individual, however it is being used as magick talisman for the Roman Catholic Church, to keep them in power. As always symbols from the spiritual royalties Mystery School are used against the people, instead of for positive purposes, as used to be the way. People think they are getting involved with something completely not connected to the RC Church, but when you do some digging you find the links. It is very easy to find the link between Wicca, OTO and Freemasonry, it is made a little harder to find the link to the RC Church, however once you are aware that these people have been controlling the world, and all forms for religion and spirituality for thousands of years, in order to keep the general population unaware and unenlightened, you can start to join the dots.
10 April 2016 10:34
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Is what difference between original image of the post ?
From internet:
The Sigillum Dei Aemeth
"In 1453, Constantinople fell to the Turks, ending the Byzantine empire. This date also marks the beginning of the Renaissance, since the waves of Greek refugees spread knowledge of Greek throughout Europe. Included with the newly available Greek manuscripts were the Corpus Hermetica, Plotinus, and the works of the Neoplatonists.
Shortly thereafter in 1492, Isabella and Ferdinand expelled the Jews from Spain. This sent waves of Jewish refugees throughout Europe, spreading knowledge of Hebrew and of the Kabbalah.
Renaissance philosophers sought to integrate these traditions with the view of unifying the rapidly disintegrating religious factions and also ending the constant political strife. Thus they are the forerunners or prophets of the Rosicrucian and Illuminati movements. "
http://www.esotericarchives.com/
http://forums.whitewolfarchive.com/default3772-2.html%20The%20Sigillum%20Dei%20Aemeth
Is what difference between original image of the post ?
From internet:
The Sigillum Dei Aemeth
"In 1453, Constantinople fell to the Turks, ending the Byzantine empire. This date also marks the beginning of the Renaissance, since the waves of Greek refugees spread knowledge of Greek throughout Europe. Included with the newly available Greek manuscripts were the Corpus Hermetica, Plotinus, and the works of the Neoplatonists.
Shortly thereafter in 1492, Isabella and Ferdinand expelled the Jews from Spain. This sent waves of Jewish refugees throughout Europe, spreading knowledge of Hebrew and of the Kabbalah.
Renaissance philosophers sought to integrate these traditions with the view of unifying the rapidly disintegrating religious factions and also ending the constant political strife. Thus they are the forerunners or prophets of the Rosicrucian and Illuminati movements. "
http://www.esotericarchives.com/
http://forums.whitewolfarchive.com/default3772-2.html%20The%20Sigillum%20Dei%20Aemeth
10 April 2016 10:08
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21.
From the internet:
"Now here is again mixture, Satan’s deceiving powers are so vast that many cannot understand. Now the names of God are good things not bad but when, you attach pagan symbol and other sort of things like explained before (archangels type of things) this made it pagan and harram and convert a little truth into blatant lie.
Pic:
As you can see Masons or Satan says: [It should be written on sheepskin paper or virgin parchment, the which paper should be tinted green. The circle with the 72 divine letters should be red or the letters may be gold. The letters within the pentacle should be the same red, or sky blue everywhere, with the great name of God in gold. It serves to convene all spirits; when shown to them they will bow and obey you.] <——— 72 divine letters are quite interesting thing:) (sorry i cannot say anything more here because it may hurt many jewish friends "
https://makashfa.wordpress.com/2013/12/
From the internet:
"Now here is again mixture, Satan’s deceiving powers are so vast that many cannot understand. Now the names of God are good things not bad but when, you attach pagan symbol and other sort of things like explained before (archangels type of things) this made it pagan and harram and convert a little truth into blatant lie.
Pic:
As you can see Masons or Satan says: [It should be written on sheepskin paper or virgin parchment, the which paper should be tinted green. The circle with the 72 divine letters should be red or the letters may be gold. The letters within the pentacle should be the same red, or sky blue everywhere, with the great name of God in gold. It serves to convene all spirits; when shown to them they will bow and obey you.] <——— 72 divine letters are quite interesting thing:) (sorry i cannot say anything more here because it may hurt many jewish friends "
https://makashfa.wordpress.com/2013/12/
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8.
In internet:
"OMEGA = "TIPHARETH"
Getting back to this apparent "Alpha/Omega" presentation in LaHaye's hexagram: The "Omega" symbol also has a double meaning. It has significance in the doctrines of Kabbalah occultism.
Not only that...but it also has a specific relationship to kabbalistic hexagram symbolism. See two examples below:
You see the "Omega" symbol in both of these emblems. In Kabbalah doctrine, "Omega" is equated with the Tiphareth...a kabbalist (satanic) concept of "enlightenment".
On the left is the Madame Blavatsky emblem which incorporates both a swastika and a hexagram. This would seem to put a dent in the idea that this is a patriotic Jewish symbol. As I said, the double triangle hexagram has no legitimate historical connections to David or to the Bible. It is strictly the invention of occultists. To the right is another example of a hexagram. Here is a link with research information.
Notice how Blavatsky, again similar to LaHaye, has two letters stacked on each other (her own initials) and placed inside the star.
Additionally, LaHaye also has a place for someone to sign their own name in his book…inside yet another hexagram. Recall the expression in English-- “to put a hex” on someone. Is that what is going on here? (And in the German language the very word for “witch” is the word “hexe”.) "
http://themurkynews.blogspot.com.ee/2008/07/introduction-connecting-current-events.html
In internet:
"OMEGA = "TIPHARETH"
Getting back to this apparent "Alpha/Omega" presentation in LaHaye's hexagram: The "Omega" symbol also has a double meaning. It has significance in the doctrines of Kabbalah occultism.
Not only that...but it also has a specific relationship to kabbalistic hexagram symbolism. See two examples below:
You see the "Omega" symbol in both of these emblems. In Kabbalah doctrine, "Omega" is equated with the Tiphareth...a kabbalist (satanic) concept of "enlightenment".
On the left is the Madame Blavatsky emblem which incorporates both a swastika and a hexagram. This would seem to put a dent in the idea that this is a patriotic Jewish symbol. As I said, the double triangle hexagram has no legitimate historical connections to David or to the Bible. It is strictly the invention of occultists. To the right is another example of a hexagram. Here is a link with research information.
Notice how Blavatsky, again similar to LaHaye, has two letters stacked on each other (her own initials) and placed inside the star.
Additionally, LaHaye also has a place for someone to sign their own name in his book…inside yet another hexagram. Recall the expression in English-- “to put a hex” on someone. Is that what is going on here? (And in the German language the very word for “witch” is the word “hexe”.) "
http://themurkynews.blogspot.com.ee/2008/07/introduction-connecting-current-events.html
10 April 2016 09:39
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5.
From Internet:
"Plotinus is quoted for asking skeptically, “are the stars causes?” For, the significance given to stars, and symbols in general is a product of the mind, not the symbol or star. And so Plotinus reasoned that, though the stars are not causes to the life of those born under them, they are effectively ensouled within the mind through the process of giving meaning. And so, we see many interpretations of the same stars and symbols, all holding the potential for meaning. One could reinvent meaning and find the same verification of it.
Pic:
The same can be said about tarot, i ching, kabbalah, tea leaves, or any other method which ascribes personal meaning to patterns within a system. For the content to relate is always non-causal. The proof of this is in the mutual confirmation of meaning within conflicting definitions of belief. It works no matter how you slice it. Synchronicity describes all meaning found in this manner. It is about the closest to an objective science as you can get with such subjective materials, and comes as close to a breakdown of the subject/object barrier as quantum physics- which I know absolutely nothing about, so that is really just an assumption. So much is an assumption, which is sort of the point I’m getting at.:)"
https://synchrologistics.wordpress.com/tag/neo-platonism/
From Internet:
"Plotinus is quoted for asking skeptically, “are the stars causes?” For, the significance given to stars, and symbols in general is a product of the mind, not the symbol or star. And so Plotinus reasoned that, though the stars are not causes to the life of those born under them, they are effectively ensouled within the mind through the process of giving meaning. And so, we see many interpretations of the same stars and symbols, all holding the potential for meaning. One could reinvent meaning and find the same verification of it.
Pic:
The same can be said about tarot, i ching, kabbalah, tea leaves, or any other method which ascribes personal meaning to patterns within a system. For the content to relate is always non-causal. The proof of this is in the mutual confirmation of meaning within conflicting definitions of belief. It works no matter how you slice it. Synchronicity describes all meaning found in this manner. It is about the closest to an objective science as you can get with such subjective materials, and comes as close to a breakdown of the subject/object barrier as quantum physics- which I know absolutely nothing about, so that is really just an assumption. So much is an assumption, which is sort of the point I’m getting at.:)"
https://synchrologistics.wordpress.com/tag/neo-platonism/
10 April 2016 09:34
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3.
Example in internet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayin_and_Yesh#History_of_Ayin-Yesh
"Kabbalah, the fourth level of Pardes Jewish exegesis, relating to the Sephirah Chochmah-Wisdom, focuses on the esoteric supernal emanations, defining them through anthropomorphisms and metaphors. Creation is seen as Yesh me-Ayin from "below" and Ayin me-Yesh from "above"
(Also good in side perhaps: http://www.counterbalance.org/cqmedia/medie-body.html (material on the right)
and: http://www.talentshare.org/~mm9n/articles/cosmos/5.htm - as long that is up in internet.)
Example in internet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayin_and_Yesh#History_of_Ayin-Yesh
"Kabbalah, the fourth level of Pardes Jewish exegesis, relating to the Sephirah Chochmah-Wisdom, focuses on the esoteric supernal emanations, defining them through anthropomorphisms and metaphors. Creation is seen as Yesh me-Ayin from "below" and Ayin me-Yesh from "above"
(Also good in side perhaps: http://www.counterbalance.org/cqmedia/medie-body.html (material on the right)
and: http://www.talentshare.org/~mm9n/articles/cosmos/5.htm - as long that is up in internet.)
10 April 2016 09:28
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Reply to a under pic, so i can post new and new as seperate topic
10 April 2016 09:27
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2.
http://freemasonryesoterica.tumblr.com/post/6321183360/from-kirchers-oedipus-aegyptiacus-this-rare-cut
"From Kircher’s OEdipus AEgyptiacus
“This rare cut shows the name of God in seventy-two languages inscribed upon the petals of a symbolic sunflower. Above the circle are the seventy-two powers of God according to the Hebrew Kabbalah. Below are two trees, that on the left bearing the symbols of the planets and that on the right the signs of the zodiac and the names of the tribes of Israel. The esoteric doctrines of the Kabbalah are in alignment with the secret teachings of all the schools of philosophy, but the method by which its secrets are revealed to the wise and concealed from the ignorant is most unusual.”
http://freemasonryesoterica.tumblr.com/post/6321183360/from-kirchers-oedipus-aegyptiacus-this-rare-cut
"From Kircher’s OEdipus AEgyptiacus
“This rare cut shows the name of God in seventy-two languages inscribed upon the petals of a symbolic sunflower. Above the circle are the seventy-two powers of God according to the Hebrew Kabbalah. Below are two trees, that on the left bearing the symbols of the planets and that on the right the signs of the zodiac and the names of the tribes of Israel. The esoteric doctrines of the Kabbalah are in alignment with the secret teachings of all the schools of philosophy, but the method by which its secrets are revealed to the wise and concealed from the ignorant is most unusual.”
10 April 2016 09:27
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http://logos144.blogspot.com.ee/2011/08/in-beginning-was-structure-of-vacuum.html
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Swastika - One of the oldest and most complex of symbols, prehistoric and universal except for parts of Africa and Sumeria…The swastika did not occur in Egypt until a few centuries BC and not at all in Central Africa and Lower Mesopotamia, but it has been suggested that the four-faced gods [4 sons of Horus] were a swastika symbol, while Count Goblet D'Alviella suggested that the swastika and the crux ansata and the winged disk were basically the same symbol…[Its symbolism] has variously been suggested as the revolving sun; the radiate wheel of the noon sun; the sun chariot; the Pole and the revolution of the stars round it; [Osiris] the four cardinal points; the four quarters of the moon; the four winds and the four seasons; a whirlwind movement; the motion of revolving round the world; the Centre; creative force in motion; the generation of the cycles; the revolution of the wheel of life; the cross as the four quarters over which the solar power revolves converting it into a circle; the cross as the vertical and horizontal lines depicting the spirit and matter and the four grades of existence.
The Ankh is commonly known to mean life in the language of Ancient Kemet (land of the Blacks) renamed Egypt by the Greeks. It is also a symbol for the power to give and sustain life, the Ankh is typically associated with material things such as water (which was believed by Egyptians to regenerate life), air, sun, as well as with the Gods, who are frequently pictured carrying an Ankh.
http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/swastika.htm
The genesis of the swastika symbol is often treated in conjunction with cross symbols in general, such as the "sun wheel" of Bronze Age religion. Beyond its certain presence in the "proto-writing" symbol systems emerging in the Neolithic, [8] nothing certain is known about the symbol's origin….
In Hinduism, the two symbols represent the two forms of the creator god Brahma: facing right it represents the evolution of the universe and facing left it represents the involution of the universe. The swastika is one of the 108 symbols of Hindu deity Vishnu and represents the Sun's rays, upon which life depends. It is also seen as pointing in all four directions (north, east, south and west) and thus signifies grounded stability. Its use as a Sun symbol can first be seen in its representation of the god Surya….
In Latvian the symbol is known as either Ugunskrusts, the "Fire cross" (rotating counter-clockwise), or Pērkonkrusts, the "Thunder cross" (rotating clock-wise), and was mainly associated with Pērkons, the god of Thunder and justice.
For the Slavs the swastika is a magic sign manifesting the power and majesty of the sun and fire. It was usually called "The wheel of Svarog." It was often used as an ornament decorating ritualistic utensils of cult cinerary urns with ashes of the dead. It was the symbol of power (the swastika seen on the coins of Mieszko I) both lay and divine….
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An unusual swastika, composed of the Hebrew letters Aleph and Resh, appears in the 18th century Kabbalistic work "Parashat Eliezer" by Rabbi Eliezer Fischl of Strizhov, a commentary on the obscure ancient eschatological book "Karnayim", ascribed to Rabbi Aharon of Kardina. The symbol is enclosed by a circle and surrounded by a cyclic hymn in Aramaic. The hymn, which refers explicitly to the power of the Sun, as well as the shape of the symbol, shows strong solar symbolism. According to the book, this mandala-like symbol is meant to help a mystic to contemplate on the cyclic nature and structure of the Universe. The letters are the initial and final characters of the Hebrew word, אוֹר, or "light".
…in ancient Tibet, it was a graphical representation of eternity.[24] The paired swastika symbols are included, at least since the Liao Dynasty, as part of the Chinese language, the symbolic sign for … "all" or "eternality" (lit. myriad)
In Greco-Roman art and architecture, and in Romanesque and Gothic art in the West, the swastika often represented perpetual motion, reflecting the design of a rotating windmill or watermill….
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
http://logos144.blogspot.com.ee/2011/08/in-beginning-was-structure-of-vacuum.html
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Swastika - One of the oldest and most complex of symbols, prehistoric and universal except for parts of Africa and Sumeria…The swastika did not occur in Egypt until a few centuries BC and not at all in Central Africa and Lower Mesopotamia, but it has been suggested that the four-faced gods [4 sons of Horus] were a swastika symbol, while Count Goblet D'Alviella suggested that the swastika and the crux ansata and the winged disk were basically the same symbol…[Its symbolism] has variously been suggested as the revolving sun; the radiate wheel of the noon sun; the sun chariot; the Pole and the revolution of the stars round it; [Osiris] the four cardinal points; the four quarters of the moon; the four winds and the four seasons; a whirlwind movement; the motion of revolving round the world; the Centre; creative force in motion; the generation of the cycles; the revolution of the wheel of life; the cross as the four quarters over which the solar power revolves converting it into a circle; the cross as the vertical and horizontal lines depicting the spirit and matter and the four grades of existence.
The Ankh is commonly known to mean life in the language of Ancient Kemet (land of the Blacks) renamed Egypt by the Greeks. It is also a symbol for the power to give and sustain life, the Ankh is typically associated with material things such as water (which was believed by Egyptians to regenerate life), air, sun, as well as with the Gods, who are frequently pictured carrying an Ankh.
http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/swastika.htm
The genesis of the swastika symbol is often treated in conjunction with cross symbols in general, such as the "sun wheel" of Bronze Age religion. Beyond its certain presence in the "proto-writing" symbol systems emerging in the Neolithic, [8] nothing certain is known about the symbol's origin….
In Hinduism, the two symbols represent the two forms of the creator god Brahma: facing right it represents the evolution of the universe and facing left it represents the involution of the universe. The swastika is one of the 108 symbols of Hindu deity Vishnu and represents the Sun's rays, upon which life depends. It is also seen as pointing in all four directions (north, east, south and west) and thus signifies grounded stability. Its use as a Sun symbol can first be seen in its representation of the god Surya….
In Latvian the symbol is known as either Ugunskrusts, the "Fire cross" (rotating counter-clockwise), or Pērkonkrusts, the "Thunder cross" (rotating clock-wise), and was mainly associated with Pērkons, the god of Thunder and justice.
For the Slavs the swastika is a magic sign manifesting the power and majesty of the sun and fire. It was usually called "The wheel of Svarog." It was often used as an ornament decorating ritualistic utensils of cult cinerary urns with ashes of the dead. It was the symbol of power (the swastika seen on the coins of Mieszko I) both lay and divine….
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An unusual swastika, composed of the Hebrew letters Aleph and Resh, appears in the 18th century Kabbalistic work "Parashat Eliezer" by Rabbi Eliezer Fischl of Strizhov, a commentary on the obscure ancient eschatological book "Karnayim", ascribed to Rabbi Aharon of Kardina. The symbol is enclosed by a circle and surrounded by a cyclic hymn in Aramaic. The hymn, which refers explicitly to the power of the Sun, as well as the shape of the symbol, shows strong solar symbolism. According to the book, this mandala-like symbol is meant to help a mystic to contemplate on the cyclic nature and structure of the Universe. The letters are the initial and final characters of the Hebrew word, אוֹר, or "light".
…in ancient Tibet, it was a graphical representation of eternity.[24] The paired swastika symbols are included, at least since the Liao Dynasty, as part of the Chinese language, the symbolic sign for … "all" or "eternality" (lit. myriad)
In Greco-Roman art and architecture, and in Romanesque and Gothic art in the West, the swastika often represented perpetual motion, reflecting the design of a rotating windmill or watermill….
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
10 April 2016 09:26
Margus Meigo commented on Pac Manian's photo.
Ghame, Play, : add all needed, extra, information about it what You see, feel, know... the text i add is just what is on web near image, not something of the "best"
OKey, the flood of what was and that was directed away,
Focus , Focus, Focus, for a moment, Mr. Margus
OKey, the flood of what was and that was directed away,
Focus , Focus, Focus, for a moment, Mr. Margus
10 April 2016 09:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
World keeps ripping me away from here, Arrgh, will try again
Thanks for patience : )
Thanks for patience : )
10 April 2016 09:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and in the end , All is not Good, this is the point. And important one to get, if we want to end up in the side in the end that is also considered as good enough worth to keep not just as temporally tool or mistake aka side effect
10 April 2016 09:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Okey, i crashed writing a answer to that as of now,
will continue the original plan with a game we had a plan and that is over the time limit a lot by now
(can still psot a draft of an answer to here, that does not have a magic in as will not end with a closing needed truth to prove it self in perfect circle in understandable way )
(there was things going a bit big to try to explain words usage as "Perfect", "Good", "Bad"; "evil", ... in a true good terminology, and at same time explaining the proof what is good and is not and why is and should be we moving to direction of good and how to diagnose and cure this what is needed )
will continue the original plan with a game we had a plan and that is over the time limit a lot by now
(can still psot a draft of an answer to here, that does not have a magic in as will not end with a closing needed truth to prove it self in perfect circle in understandable way )
(there was things going a bit big to try to explain words usage as "Perfect", "Good", "Bad"; "evil", ... in a true good terminology, and at same time explaining the proof what is good and is not and why is and should be we moving to direction of good and how to diagnose and cure this what is needed )
10 April 2016 09:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Takes some time more, as will make best to make it perfect (even, if not best)
10 April 2016 08:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
No and Yes,
Will tell you why, is Yes
Will tell you why, is Yes
10 April 2016 08:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"thing" might be good, as material for some usage,
but all actions and "things - as of EVERYthings (that can be named or can not be)" is not of a Good as of benefiting whole and all parts that benefit whole for preserving all diversity of beauty creation
but all actions and "things - as of EVERYthings (that can be named or can not be)" is not of a Good as of benefiting whole and all parts that benefit whole for preserving all diversity of beauty creation
10 April 2016 08:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
10 April 2016 07:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
AL in that case is ALright, as can access to information pipelines that does not require to be master of that information it self , so meaning, can expose/forward information that we would not have Earthly way possible time to master in proper Architect way - a bit like hacker - leaker
So this is meaning besides Your knowledge, we might all end up something more, as we not held back by the limitation of our knowings,
// but make notes, also guided by feelings relating to direction of ultimate benefit value what You would trust Your child with (particular information interpreters, owners, makers to who You would be clad to trust Your child to compared to something, You would teach Her to keep border or Eye with caution ) ( marks with " // " is as much of MY notes as i can feel to be, to needed, adding color or direction to information flow that am seem to benefit you or me or Us or Them who is needed )
So this is meaning besides Your knowledge, we might all end up something more, as we not held back by the limitation of our knowings,
// but make notes, also guided by feelings relating to direction of ultimate benefit value what You would trust Your child with (particular information interpreters, owners, makers to who You would be clad to trust Your child to compared to something, You would teach Her to keep border or Eye with caution ) ( marks with " // " is as much of MY notes as i can feel to be, to needed, adding color or direction to information flow that am seem to benefit you or me or Us or Them who is needed )
10 April 2016 07:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sounds good to me, i will be here with 10-15 minutes, in s'allah
10 April 2016 07:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
How AL ?
10 April 2016 07:20
Margus Meigo commented on Pac Manian's photo.
I know, the one who asks to much knows to little, but this worry worries me less then the benefit that can come from this flood i can offer
10 April 2016 07:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Can You speak Hebrew meanings behind letters as well
//deep to the meaning of letters and numbers (or own friends - resources who do) ?
//deep to the meaning of letters and numbers (or own friends - resources who do) ?
10 April 2016 07:17
Margus Meigo commented on Pac Manian's photo.
Can i make a online game with You and post here, on to reply some (15-20 images) and you will try to reply on every one of them by any time by time, with a information vital to an image, as much we are opened to.
Also mention if some of them are fictional and if some are usable more then just symbols in combination
You seem to be one in interest of that, in really
Also mention if some of them are fictional and if some are usable more then just symbols in combination
You seem to be one in interest of that, in really
10 April 2016 07:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
What means "Sir." for You ?
I am Margus
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// on my own minds also Ma.:.gus //
I am Margus
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// on my own minds also Ma.:.gus //
10 April 2016 07:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I meant on the Organization / Spirits Coalition / Earthly Representative / Known human non pseudo talkers or even researchers on combination of what is seen on it?
(it is also, in part to see what and who you know related to an image we share)
If there is some, who's name You can not say here fine also, but can You say as much real country man level pointers to a names, even as simple as Sir Pike, who am still not so sure that was telling deepest things in most needed simple way at all. But will still take up ones audio and text when base material from middle east and other "non west" locations is worth on that task to take on
(it is also, in part to see what and who you know related to an image we share)
If there is some, who's name You can not say here fine also, but can You say as much real country man level pointers to a names, even as simple as Sir Pike, who am still not so sure that was telling deepest things in most needed simple way at all. But will still take up ones audio and text when base material from middle east and other "non west" locations is worth on that task to take on
10 April 2016 07:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I know, it is not a nice thing not to speak Latin,
10 April 2016 07:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Estonian
With dictionary can do some latin as well, more so in later days
With dictionary can do some latin as well, more so in later days
10 April 2016 07:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And on Earth right now, who is mastering all You see on it ?
10 April 2016 06:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
you know well
10 April 2016 06:57
Margus Meigo commented on Pac Manian's post.
If you say so
10 April 2016 06:56
Margus Meigo commented on Pac Manian's photo.
Who is master of thatr
10 April 2016 06:54
Margus Meigo commented on Cathy Kamii's post.
Group: Tutvus
jaa küll mille tarvis : )9 April 2016 20:47
Margus Meigo commented on Carol Iila's post.
Group: Tutvus
kuhu nad siis küll kaduda võisid9 April 2016 20:47
Margus Meigo replied to Andrew Nail's comment.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
i have ways to prove that but will not share it here,
Just take magic mushrooms and you will see how to9 April 2016 15:19
Margus Meigo replied to Andrew Nail's comment.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
no iluminati is good, you meant communists aka roman empire9 April 2016 15:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
You're gonna need me
Plea my cause
- WalNuts & PsyChoFreud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8_pNs1YQqk&list=PL-rKcjKlIFHZX_m_jBLGEdgGtEVCfAQqC
// private note
You're gonna need me
Plea my cause
- WalNuts & PsyChoFreud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8_pNs1YQqk&list=PL-rKcjKlIFHZX_m_jBLGEdgGtEVCfAQqC
// private note
8 April 2016 10:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
see peaks merka ligi olema, keelepeal on aga kohanimi eitule meelde,
8 April 2016 06:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vot Takk!
8 April 2016 02:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sa vist ei ole eriti huumori mees . )
8 April 2016 02:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Et pahade viamude tehtud ongi see ilm, kus "faktide" põhjal nad ainult toimetavad, sest siis seda mida faktiga tagantjägi tõestada ei osata pimedamale, siis seda pole olnud
ja sedasi saab enamust kurja kaitsta.
Kuigi, eks tarkus ikka jõua järgi ja ka selle sama taktikaga me nad kinni nabime, kui uued meetotid saavad sama teaduse järgi ära tõestatud millega nad ise tõestusest eemale proovisid lipsata.. et nad ei saa pidurdust nii kergesti panna enam toimetamistele ja siis see sama masinavärk ka nende enda patud välja uurib ja meeled uuesti arusaadavaks puurib sama tehnoloogiaga millega sulgeda prooviti.
Selle pärast väga proovitakse usurt sõda saada, siis ei peaks tõde välja tulema ja saaks ajapikendust kurjadele kõrvasti, et midagi uut välja mõelda ja korraga segaduse aeg kõik arvuti ja mobiilidega, külajuttudega ära märgitud targad üle maa likvideerida, kes neid hiljem loeb ja arvestab, kui "palju suuremad kurjad ja pahad asjad juhtusid, aatom pommid, viirused ja laavad jms.."
Kuid tegelt need asjad tehakse tähelepanu kõrvale juhtimiseks, et ligi saada mitme küljepealt asjadele millele muidu ei saa
ja sedasi saab enamust kurja kaitsta.
Kuigi, eks tarkus ikka jõua järgi ja ka selle sama taktikaga me nad kinni nabime, kui uued meetotid saavad sama teaduse järgi ära tõestatud millega nad ise tõestusest eemale proovisid lipsata.. et nad ei saa pidurdust nii kergesti panna enam toimetamistele ja siis see sama masinavärk ka nende enda patud välja uurib ja meeled uuesti arusaadavaks puurib sama tehnoloogiaga millega sulgeda prooviti.
Selle pärast väga proovitakse usurt sõda saada, siis ei peaks tõde välja tulema ja saaks ajapikendust kurjadele kõrvasti, et midagi uut välja mõelda ja korraga segaduse aeg kõik arvuti ja mobiilidega, külajuttudega ära märgitud targad üle maa likvideerida, kes neid hiljem loeb ja arvestab, kui "palju suuremad kurjad ja pahad asjad juhtusid, aatom pommid, viirused ja laavad jms.."
Kuid tegelt need asjad tehakse tähelepanu kõrvale juhtimiseks, et ligi saada mitme küljepealt asjadele millele muidu ei saa
7 April 2016 14:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Või kasvõi vanarahva loost, et ei sovinud teise sant silm haiget teeks:
http://www.folklore.ee/justkui/sonastik/index.php?f=3
http://www.folklore.ee/justkui/sonastik/index.php?f=3
7 April 2016 13:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga mis siis, kui ta nägi, et teise silmad on veri punased täielikult või kollased nagu laava ja ta sisistas "ma söön Su lapse hinge ära" ja ainuke võimalus mida kiiresti ta oskas teha enese kaitseks, on tollele kiiresti lõpp teha samurai mõõgaga mis tal käepärast juhtus olema nagu vampiiritapia puffis.
Mis moodi seda meie robot ühiskond tõestab, kas ühel oli meele segadus, ta valetab või tegi ta koguni heateo ja peaks auhinna saama vapruse eest, Või bähemalt mitte karistada. Kas me riik on üldse arengu algfaasis selliste juhtumite jaoks ?
Või on tegu nii algelise algvormiga, et naine omakorda veel topelt arreteeritakse?
http://www.para-web.org/showthread.php?tid=5843
Mis moodi seda meie robot ühiskond tõestab, kas ühel oli meele segadus, ta valetab või tegi ta koguni heateo ja peaks auhinna saama vapruse eest, Või bähemalt mitte karistada. Kas me riik on üldse arengu algfaasis selliste juhtumite jaoks ?
Või on tegu nii algelise algvormiga, et naine omakorda veel topelt arreteeritakse?
http://www.para-web.org/showthread.php?tid=5843
http://www.para-web.org/showthread.php?tid=5843
7 April 2016 13:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
:D :D .D (Y)
7 April 2016 13:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
New full format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43gKuJcQvmo&nohtml5=False
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43gKuJcQvmo&nohtml5=False
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43gKuJcQvmo&nohtml5=False
7 April 2016 13:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Peab ikka veel Jagama!
7 April 2016 13:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://1997-2001.state.gov/www/statements/970327.HTML
Archive Site for State Department information
Great Seal Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright and
Estonian Foreign Minister Toomas Ilves
Washington, D.C., March 27, 1997, As released by the Office of the Spokesman, U.S. Department of State
Blue Bar
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: I'm very pleased to welcome Foreign Minister Ilves of Estonia. Though this is our first official meeting together, I know he already feels at home. The Minister knows us well from his recent service as Estonia's Ambassador to the United States and he represents a country that is among America's closest friends.
On February 24, President Clinton congratulated Estonia on the 79th anniversary of it's independence. This holiday has special meaning for the Estonian people, since for more than 50 of those 79 years their nation was attached against it's will to an imperial power.
The United States never recognized that forced incorporation. In our main floor lobby, we displayed Estonia's flag then as we do now with those of other sovereign and independent states.
Since Estonia regained its freedom, it has emerged as a vibrant, prosperous and democratic success story. It is striving to develop constructive and normal ties with all of its neighbors.
With its Baltic neighbors, Estonia is returning in fact to the community of European and Atlantic democracies that it never left in spirit. We welcome Estonia's aspirations to participate in all of the institutions of our transatlantic community.
Last year I gave an award to three Presidents. I said, "You do not have to be in the heart of Europe to have Europe in your heart." That was true definitely of Estonia.
Among other topics that we are going to talk about today, we will talk about Estonia's deepening partnership with NATO. I will reaffirm, as President Clinton did during the Helsinki summit, that NATO will remain open to all European democracies that are able to contribute to its goals. This is fundamental. As this century ends, our purpose in Europe is to tear down old divisions, not to create new ones.
As we approach Madrid, I know that there is concern about which countries will be invited in the first round. But this is a long-term process. As it unfolds, we should remember that NATO's area of concern always has been and always will be larger than the area of its membership. And as I have been saying since the President announced this policy in 1994, we have a direct and material security interest in all of Europe.
We're already strengthening the Partnership for Peace and giving all of Europe a voice in the new Atlantic Partnership Council. And while NATO cannot offer advance promises of membership, it can offer a process for bringing our partners to NATO standards. That process will continue through Madrid and beyond.
Our goal is an integrated Europe. That goal embraces Estonia. Estonia is our partner in achieving it. And I look forward to discussing it with the Foreign Minister today.
FOREIGN MINISTER ILVES: Ladies and gentlemen, I'm very glad to be here today with my colleague Secretary Albright less than a week after the US-Russian Summit in Helsinki. I consider the timing of this meeting significant considering that improving Estonian-Russian relations is one of our priorities and that the United States has always played a leading and decisive role in helping this along this route.
I look forward to hearing more details about the summit, which was something of a milestone in the continuing process of enhancing European security.
Today we will discuss not only ties between Estonia and the United States but we will concentrate on security issues as well. We are gratified that the United States remains committed to NATO's open door policy. We have our own proposals for the pre- and post- Madrid period and I look forward to hearing more about the U.S.'s plans for the crucial months ahead.
Although the U.S. is not a European Union member, the U.S. supports the enlargement of the EU having additional means to enhance security on the continent. We will discuss ways the that the U.S. can help to quicken Estonia's accession to this organization.
I look forward to a productive and open meeting here in Washington and I might add it's great to be back.
QUESTION: Mr. Minister, expanding NATO is a different breed of cat from expanding the European Union, you don't have to be Russian to wonder about the wisdom of expanding NATO to Russia's border. There are a lot of serious people that happen to think that it's very bad and it creates new lines of division. It would be a special poke in the eye for NATO to expand to the Baltics. We won't go through the history. We know how you feel - that the incorporation was unjust but Russia assert probably unjust some sort of proprietary interest in the Balkans. In any event, do you see any problem, any threat, any danger in the Baltics being beckoned by NATO at this critical time?
FOREIGN MINISTER ILVES: No! (laughter)
QUESTION: Could you explain why? Apart from your assertion of independence, and you rationalize that as against Russia's concerns that all of Europe is ganging up against Russia.
FOREIGN MINISTER ILVES: One would think that countries can decide which security arrangements they would like to make and I do point out that both Russia and Estonia, along with a lot of other countries signed the Helsinki Final Act. So maybe we should abandon the Helsinki Act then. But I certainly do not believe that the country has to give up it's aspirations to freely join an organization simply because it's neighbor objects.
QUESTION: What are these pre- and post- Madrid proposals that you're talking about and what would happen if Balks are never allowed to join in? What if this becomes impossible?
FOREIGN MINISTER ILVES: These are countries that proposals concerning partnership peace and various strategies are to proceed after Madrid; life exists after Madrid as well, so we have to figure out what we will be doing after Madrid. I cannot speculate on Estonia never joining NATO. I think that's speculation that I think is probably wrong.
QUESTION: Madam Secretary, how does the U.S. feel about sending Russia's long-term strategic plan about the Baltic before(inaudible) Do you have any specific view on the verge of interfering into the domestic affairs of this country?
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: I don't think it's appropriate to comment on that plan itself. But let met just say the following. We think that it is very important for Russia and Estonia to come to an agreement on their border. We also believe, as the Foreign Minister has said that the NATO process is an open one and the first countries accepted will not be the last. As the President said in Helsinki, and has said in a number of places and as I have said, "NATO is open to all democracies and the process is continuing one." I believe that it is important for the countries of Europe as well as Russia to understand the possibilities in countries who, in fact, choose which allies they want to be with. I think the Foreign Minister made that point and I would second that.
Archive Site for State Department information
Great Seal Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright and
Estonian Foreign Minister Toomas Ilves
Washington, D.C., March 27, 1997, As released by the Office of the Spokesman, U.S. Department of State
Blue Bar
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: I'm very pleased to welcome Foreign Minister Ilves of Estonia. Though this is our first official meeting together, I know he already feels at home. The Minister knows us well from his recent service as Estonia's Ambassador to the United States and he represents a country that is among America's closest friends.
On February 24, President Clinton congratulated Estonia on the 79th anniversary of it's independence. This holiday has special meaning for the Estonian people, since for more than 50 of those 79 years their nation was attached against it's will to an imperial power.
The United States never recognized that forced incorporation. In our main floor lobby, we displayed Estonia's flag then as we do now with those of other sovereign and independent states.
Since Estonia regained its freedom, it has emerged as a vibrant, prosperous and democratic success story. It is striving to develop constructive and normal ties with all of its neighbors.
With its Baltic neighbors, Estonia is returning in fact to the community of European and Atlantic democracies that it never left in spirit. We welcome Estonia's aspirations to participate in all of the institutions of our transatlantic community.
Last year I gave an award to three Presidents. I said, "You do not have to be in the heart of Europe to have Europe in your heart." That was true definitely of Estonia.
Among other topics that we are going to talk about today, we will talk about Estonia's deepening partnership with NATO. I will reaffirm, as President Clinton did during the Helsinki summit, that NATO will remain open to all European democracies that are able to contribute to its goals. This is fundamental. As this century ends, our purpose in Europe is to tear down old divisions, not to create new ones.
As we approach Madrid, I know that there is concern about which countries will be invited in the first round. But this is a long-term process. As it unfolds, we should remember that NATO's area of concern always has been and always will be larger than the area of its membership. And as I have been saying since the President announced this policy in 1994, we have a direct and material security interest in all of Europe.
We're already strengthening the Partnership for Peace and giving all of Europe a voice in the new Atlantic Partnership Council. And while NATO cannot offer advance promises of membership, it can offer a process for bringing our partners to NATO standards. That process will continue through Madrid and beyond.
Our goal is an integrated Europe. That goal embraces Estonia. Estonia is our partner in achieving it. And I look forward to discussing it with the Foreign Minister today.
FOREIGN MINISTER ILVES: Ladies and gentlemen, I'm very glad to be here today with my colleague Secretary Albright less than a week after the US-Russian Summit in Helsinki. I consider the timing of this meeting significant considering that improving Estonian-Russian relations is one of our priorities and that the United States has always played a leading and decisive role in helping this along this route.
I look forward to hearing more details about the summit, which was something of a milestone in the continuing process of enhancing European security.
Today we will discuss not only ties between Estonia and the United States but we will concentrate on security issues as well. We are gratified that the United States remains committed to NATO's open door policy. We have our own proposals for the pre- and post- Madrid period and I look forward to hearing more about the U.S.'s plans for the crucial months ahead.
Although the U.S. is not a European Union member, the U.S. supports the enlargement of the EU having additional means to enhance security on the continent. We will discuss ways the that the U.S. can help to quicken Estonia's accession to this organization.
I look forward to a productive and open meeting here in Washington and I might add it's great to be back.
QUESTION: Mr. Minister, expanding NATO is a different breed of cat from expanding the European Union, you don't have to be Russian to wonder about the wisdom of expanding NATO to Russia's border. There are a lot of serious people that happen to think that it's very bad and it creates new lines of division. It would be a special poke in the eye for NATO to expand to the Baltics. We won't go through the history. We know how you feel - that the incorporation was unjust but Russia assert probably unjust some sort of proprietary interest in the Balkans. In any event, do you see any problem, any threat, any danger in the Baltics being beckoned by NATO at this critical time?
FOREIGN MINISTER ILVES: No! (laughter)
QUESTION: Could you explain why? Apart from your assertion of independence, and you rationalize that as against Russia's concerns that all of Europe is ganging up against Russia.
FOREIGN MINISTER ILVES: One would think that countries can decide which security arrangements they would like to make and I do point out that both Russia and Estonia, along with a lot of other countries signed the Helsinki Final Act. So maybe we should abandon the Helsinki Act then. But I certainly do not believe that the country has to give up it's aspirations to freely join an organization simply because it's neighbor objects.
QUESTION: What are these pre- and post- Madrid proposals that you're talking about and what would happen if Balks are never allowed to join in? What if this becomes impossible?
FOREIGN MINISTER ILVES: These are countries that proposals concerning partnership peace and various strategies are to proceed after Madrid; life exists after Madrid as well, so we have to figure out what we will be doing after Madrid. I cannot speculate on Estonia never joining NATO. I think that's speculation that I think is probably wrong.
QUESTION: Madam Secretary, how does the U.S. feel about sending Russia's long-term strategic plan about the Baltic before(inaudible) Do you have any specific view on the verge of interfering into the domestic affairs of this country?
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: I don't think it's appropriate to comment on that plan itself. But let met just say the following. We think that it is very important for Russia and Estonia to come to an agreement on their border. We also believe, as the Foreign Minister has said that the NATO process is an open one and the first countries accepted will not be the last. As the President said in Helsinki, and has said in a number of places and as I have said, "NATO is open to all democracies and the process is continuing one." I believe that it is important for the countries of Europe as well as Russia to understand the possibilities in countries who, in fact, choose which allies they want to be with. I think the Foreign Minister made that point and I would second that.
http://1997-2001.state.gov/www/statements/970327.HTML
7 April 2016 13:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
UNlike Ukraine, By approving Estonian NATO and EU memberships, Western powers gave legal guarantees to defend the Estonian people. NATO’s core purpose is collective defense. In article 41.7 of the Lisbon Treaty, EU also gave a collective defense commitment to its members. However, paper is patient. Besides paper guarantees, Estonia must be defended for four real reasons.
First, any Russian annexation of Estonian territory, without any response by NATO and EU, would inevitable lead to the collapse of the European order. NATO would be politically dead, maybe the Alliance would even dissolved, however, if it continues to exists, NATO after loosing Estonia would be nothing else than bloodless torso. In addition, EU would loose its role as European unifier and peace-bringer. Henceforth, the EU would not be attractive anymore for countries, which intend to use the Union to satisfy their security demands.
Second, the collapse of the European order could flare up frozen tensions in South Eastern Europe. Some countries might conclude that going West was not the right path and, therefore, reconsider their course.
Third and even worse, through an US and European de facto surrender to Putin, the Western liberal order would be death, too. It would become clear to all countries around the world, friendly and hostile, that US guarantees in our times are worth nothing. China and Iran would watch this with great interest. More conflicts in Asia and the Middle East would be the result, followed by a significant negative impact on the world economy.
Fourth, in a horror scenario of NATO doing nothing, Putin would use his moment of initiative and go even further than Estonia. Imagine the dramatic impact of such a crisis on the global financial markets and the world economy. The tiny growth in Europe would cease, costing jobs and increasing public debt.
Hence, the geopolitical, strategic, political and economic prices to pay for the US and Europe in case of a Russian victory in Estonia would be too high to accept. That is why NATO has to defend Estonia.
http://offiziere.ch/?p=16952
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/europa/krise-in-der-ukraine-im-kreml-lacht-man-ueber-sanktionen-12940541.html
http://lindleyfrench.blogspot.de/2014/05/nato-what-would-europeans-fight-for.html
http://fortunascorner.com/2014/04/30/a-u-s-foreign-policy-flirting-with-chaos/
http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2014-05/ukraine-eu-russland
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/europa/krise-in-der-ukraine-im-kreml-lacht-man-ueber-sanktionen-12940541.html
First, any Russian annexation of Estonian territory, without any response by NATO and EU, would inevitable lead to the collapse of the European order. NATO would be politically dead, maybe the Alliance would even dissolved, however, if it continues to exists, NATO after loosing Estonia would be nothing else than bloodless torso. In addition, EU would loose its role as European unifier and peace-bringer. Henceforth, the EU would not be attractive anymore for countries, which intend to use the Union to satisfy their security demands.
Second, the collapse of the European order could flare up frozen tensions in South Eastern Europe. Some countries might conclude that going West was not the right path and, therefore, reconsider their course.
Third and even worse, through an US and European de facto surrender to Putin, the Western liberal order would be death, too. It would become clear to all countries around the world, friendly and hostile, that US guarantees in our times are worth nothing. China and Iran would watch this with great interest. More conflicts in Asia and the Middle East would be the result, followed by a significant negative impact on the world economy.
Fourth, in a horror scenario of NATO doing nothing, Putin would use his moment of initiative and go even further than Estonia. Imagine the dramatic impact of such a crisis on the global financial markets and the world economy. The tiny growth in Europe would cease, costing jobs and increasing public debt.
Hence, the geopolitical, strategic, political and economic prices to pay for the US and Europe in case of a Russian victory in Estonia would be too high to accept. That is why NATO has to defend Estonia.
http://offiziere.ch/?p=16952
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/europa/krise-in-der-ukraine-im-kreml-lacht-man-ueber-sanktionen-12940541.html
http://lindleyfrench.blogspot.de/2014/05/nato-what-would-europeans-fight-for.html
http://fortunascorner.com/2014/04/30/a-u-s-foreign-policy-flirting-with-chaos/
http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2014-05/ukraine-eu-russland
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/europa/krise-in-der-ukraine-im-kreml-lacht-man-ueber-sanktionen-12940541.html
http://offiziere.ch/?p=16952
7 April 2016 13:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Will edit the post more later on
7 April 2016 13:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
take a joke pill:p
7 April 2016 08:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hobene noh
7 April 2016 08:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Loodame, et Mitte
7 April 2016 03:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See muidu ikka päris tuus postitus : )
7 April 2016 02:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Hard is the truth, that truth is harder
7 April 2016 02:30
Margus Meigo commented on Siim SN's photo.
vunts ruulab
7 April 2016 02:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eestis Nüüd : )
7 April 2016 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
U know, teema ja "Täkk"
7 April 2016 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Heatahtlik
7 April 2016 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own life event.
Lauri Täkk likes :P
7 April 2016 02:18
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Millised paragrafid paneksid neile 4 jale süüdistatule, aastarvudes, sisetunde järgi ?
Ja kas erinevus, kas tegu meeste või naistega? Ja kas erinevus, kas naistega kes uue elu ilma toonud või naistega kes elu vastu võitlevad lühikese soenguga anarhistlikus lesbiklubis ?
Ja kas erinevus, kas tegu meeste või naistega? Ja kas erinevus, kas naistega kes uue elu ilma toonud või naistega kes elu vastu võitlevad lühikese soenguga anarhistlikus lesbiklubis ?
6 April 2016 19:48
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kuid jah, need asjad on kirjas küll,
kuid kas tahtmatu tapmine olukorras kus kaks hullu kiiguvad, 7nda koruse aknalaua peal ja see kes toapool on otsustab minna vaatama kes uksele koputas...
kas tema olukord on faktiliselt sama, kui see kes oma emotsioone ei suutnud talitseda?
Või selle kes enesekaitseks ?
Või see kes saatis teist luurele, selgitades, et see ohutum kui ise uskusolema... aga eiarvestanud kui ohtlik see võis olla kui miiniväljale to sattus..
Hmm.. siin ikka hammustada midagi
kuid kas tahtmatu tapmine olukorras kus kaks hullu kiiguvad, 7nda koruse aknalaua peal ja see kes toapool on otsustab minna vaatama kes uksele koputas...
kas tema olukord on faktiliselt sama, kui see kes oma emotsioone ei suutnud talitseda?
Või selle kes enesekaitseks ?
Või see kes saatis teist luurele, selgitades, et see ohutum kui ise uskusolema... aga eiarvestanud kui ohtlik see võis olla kui miiniväljale to sattus..
Hmm.. siin ikka hammustada midagi
6 April 2016 19:46
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Muidugi ma eitea, kas materialide hulka kuulub ka vaimu ja moraali isiksuse profiili rapordid, aga ikkamuidu peaks inimesele silma vaatama ja siis jälgima kuidas ta mis küsimusele vastab, selleks, et otsustada kas üks süüdi on või mitte
Material mis esitatakse, saab ainult siis pädev olla kui seda keegi tienud on ja seda arvesse võtnud.
Material mis esitatakse, saab ainult siis pädev olla kui seda keegi tienud on ja seda arvesse võtnud.
6 April 2016 19:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Just a note: This was "Doctors and Sexual education professionals recommendation, for hetero mans "
6 April 2016 19:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
UniSex thingy
So and then they even had this "unisex" thingy,
as if it is not enough to stick stuff in to dudes back exit, lets share that to a Wife so She can also...
i mean really... is these people EVER used psychedelics? Why would you want to go with some strange physical items.. when You can do much more with what we got by Nature (LooDu-Selt)?
So and then they even had this "unisex" thingy,
as if it is not enough to stick stuff in to dudes back exit, lets share that to a Wife so She can also...
i mean really... is these people EVER used psychedelics? Why would you want to go with some strange physical items.. when You can do much more with what we got by Nature (LooDu-Selt)?
6 April 2016 19:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so i was like
"so still.. WHAT IS that.. how in a world should one use it and what ... what is this big handheld for.. i can imagine the small part will be used to stimulate this spot behind your balls some kind of half medical, half perverse way maybe but..
Just to keep my self on positive vibe did not make any accusations before, was still looking for a image how is that used, this whatever it is...
so then i spotted the "user manual" on the website (and i must say, i DO like the website, even the colors, items placing, layout (NO Ad banners or tricks..), and so many other details are perfectly fine in good website standards.. so usually when website is done human way, nice way,the inside is also good... usually.. )
So anyway, then i found a manual from the site finally, after few minutes being amused what in a world is it..
lets hope is not..
HOLY-MOLY, it IS.... and IS even.. what... the hand held thing you ... you do what with it ?
I guess i keep old good way using psychedelic drugs to get my all full body out of time orgasms with a women or alone,
but as we know. orgasm alone is wasted orgasm from the potential if it is not directed to somewhere (then there is some use) and if it is shared and manifested ,then proper big good things can happen, specially if You realize doing that for a God on god eye, for Her
anyway, here is the manual link, to see that this is for real:
http://www.aneros.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/user_guide.pdf
"so still.. WHAT IS that.. how in a world should one use it and what ... what is this big handheld for.. i can imagine the small part will be used to stimulate this spot behind your balls some kind of half medical, half perverse way maybe but..
Just to keep my self on positive vibe did not make any accusations before, was still looking for a image how is that used, this whatever it is...
so then i spotted the "user manual" on the website (and i must say, i DO like the website, even the colors, items placing, layout (NO Ad banners or tricks..), and so many other details are perfectly fine in good website standards.. so usually when website is done human way, nice way,the inside is also good... usually.. )
So anyway, then i found a manual from the site finally, after few minutes being amused what in a world is it..
lets hope is not..
HOLY-MOLY, it IS.... and IS even.. what... the hand held thing you ... you do what with it ?
I guess i keep old good way using psychedelic drugs to get my all full body out of time orgasms with a women or alone,
but as we know. orgasm alone is wasted orgasm from the potential if it is not directed to somewhere (then there is some use) and if it is shared and manifested ,then proper big good things can happen, specially if You realize doing that for a God on god eye, for Her
anyway, here is the manual link, to see that this is for real:
http://www.aneros.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/user_guide.pdf
6 April 2016 19:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own life event.
Weebilehelt kuhu nad juhivad.. proovisin aru saada maiselt, mis asi see on mida nad promovad ja mis kasutus on ja hirmud said tõesemaks kui...
and from the website they redirect:
"The man does not ejaculate during a Super-O. This means there is no “recharging” or “time out” period needed."
"With our products, a man can achieve strong, continuous full-body orgasms previously unattainable through conventional sexual techniques. "
Doctor tested and recommended
Enhances sexual performance
Triggers multiple prostate orgasms
Enhances arousal through increased circulation
Recommended by leading sex experts
• Perfect for Advanced and Beginner Users
• Made With FDA Approved Materials
• Hands Free Pleasure
"The Synergy possible with Helix Syn and the Male G-spot is an unmatched combination you have to experience for yourself. "
ja see pole veel kõik, nad jätkavad:
"These orgasms are so earth-shattering that they deserve a special nickname – The Super Orgasm, or as our enthusiasts prefer, The “Super-O.” A Super-O is entirely different from a traditional penile orgasm – it is characterized by pleasure starting from the lower abdomen that awashes the entire body in a state of bliss."
The man does not ejaculate during a Super-O. This means there is no “recharging” or “time out” period needed. Through practice, a man can have these orgasms, one after the other during sessions lasting for an hour or more at a time. Even short sessions can feel long as our customers have reported that during Super-O sessions their “beds shake uncontrollably” and they “lose all track and sense of time.”
"Aneros products can also be used during traditional sexual encounters. During oral sex and traditional intercourse, when the man uses our products he will be harder, last longer, and have better control. His prostate will empty more fully during ejaculation, which means a more intense and satisfying orgasm. This increased sexual performance is a great secondary benefit for the partner as well. Aneros is a great way to explore and expand your intimacy with your partner"
This is the website where they send ya: http://www.aneros.com/?key=ae8330eda99f141eb82aea08b0014ba1
(talk is still "To a Man" to cure their masturbation problems, right. As they use the half-truth that not satisfying masturbation is that what makes one do it to much... so they recommend for a true man this most amazing only solution... who ever made this page up is near brilliant on marketing and turning man mind in to ruins most likely as well )
and from the website they redirect:
"The man does not ejaculate during a Super-O. This means there is no “recharging” or “time out” period needed."
"With our products, a man can achieve strong, continuous full-body orgasms previously unattainable through conventional sexual techniques. "
Doctor tested and recommended
Enhances sexual performance
Triggers multiple prostate orgasms
Enhances arousal through increased circulation
Recommended by leading sex experts
• Perfect for Advanced and Beginner Users
• Made With FDA Approved Materials
• Hands Free Pleasure
"The Synergy possible with Helix Syn and the Male G-spot is an unmatched combination you have to experience for yourself. "
ja see pole veel kõik, nad jätkavad:
"These orgasms are so earth-shattering that they deserve a special nickname – The Super Orgasm, or as our enthusiasts prefer, The “Super-O.” A Super-O is entirely different from a traditional penile orgasm – it is characterized by pleasure starting from the lower abdomen that awashes the entire body in a state of bliss."
The man does not ejaculate during a Super-O. This means there is no “recharging” or “time out” period needed. Through practice, a man can have these orgasms, one after the other during sessions lasting for an hour or more at a time. Even short sessions can feel long as our customers have reported that during Super-O sessions their “beds shake uncontrollably” and they “lose all track and sense of time.”
"Aneros products can also be used during traditional sexual encounters. During oral sex and traditional intercourse, when the man uses our products he will be harder, last longer, and have better control. His prostate will empty more fully during ejaculation, which means a more intense and satisfying orgasm. This increased sexual performance is a great secondary benefit for the partner as well. Aneros is a great way to explore and expand your intimacy with your partner"
This is the website where they send ya: http://www.aneros.com/?key=ae8330eda99f141eb82aea08b0014ba1
(talk is still "To a Man" to cure their masturbation problems, right. As they use the half-truth that not satisfying masturbation is that what makes one do it to much... so they recommend for a true man this most amazing only solution... who ever made this page up is near brilliant on marketing and turning man mind in to ruins most likely as well )
6 April 2016 19:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own life event.
Ära liiga sügavale ka seda lhete loe sest.. kohe kui oled mõelnud, et sattusid tervise lehepeale, siis tuleb välja, et tervist ja seksi kasutav ..
Of-course, do not get to in to this page, as You read further:
So on the website they say, well actually website URL them self told that now to think about it...:
" The most intense orgasms happen when the nerves in the prostate are most stimulated. It is undoubtedly the most satisfying orgasm. And, probably the healthiest because more fluid is moved and more blood flows.
The prostate gland is the male "G Spot".
That is why many women want to put their finger up their partner's anus to massage his prostate during sexual intercourse. This direct prostate stimulation greatly increases the intensity of the orgasm. If you have ever experienced this, you know what I am talking about.
However, a woman's finger barely does the job. Still, it can increase the intensity of the orgasm dramatically.
The danger with a woman's finger, is that the woman's finger nail can cause a tear in the lining of the bowel. This can cause a very serious infection!
If you want to achieve a truly magnificent breath taking orgasm, especially during mastrubation, the safest and most effective way is with an Aneros Prostate Massager. "
REally, that is why " a lot of women want to.."
Okey, i have actually heard that from a doctor, that when they take a sample, they just press down there and in a second result come ...
But REALLY ? I mean, is that actually by all standards acceptable thing to recommend to a man... if am would be a bit less hippy or not worked in porn before would be not able to philosophy even about that considering my current more clear worldview ... so thank God for that
Of-course, do not get to in to this page, as You read further:
So on the website they say, well actually website URL them self told that now to think about it...:
" The most intense orgasms happen when the nerves in the prostate are most stimulated. It is undoubtedly the most satisfying orgasm. And, probably the healthiest because more fluid is moved and more blood flows.
The prostate gland is the male "G Spot".
That is why many women want to put their finger up their partner's anus to massage his prostate during sexual intercourse. This direct prostate stimulation greatly increases the intensity of the orgasm. If you have ever experienced this, you know what I am talking about.
However, a woman's finger barely does the job. Still, it can increase the intensity of the orgasm dramatically.
The danger with a woman's finger, is that the woman's finger nail can cause a tear in the lining of the bowel. This can cause a very serious infection!
If you want to achieve a truly magnificent breath taking orgasm, especially during mastrubation, the safest and most effective way is with an Aneros Prostate Massager. "
REally, that is why " a lot of women want to.."
Okey, i have actually heard that from a doctor, that when they take a sample, they just press down there and in a second result come ...
But REALLY ? I mean, is that actually by all standards acceptable thing to recommend to a man... if am would be a bit less hippy or not worked in porn before would be not able to philosophy even about that considering my current more clear worldview ... so thank God for that
6 April 2016 19:07
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Kudias seda laiemalt seletaksid, selgitaksid ?
6 April 2016 18:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
st, nautis, viimse teisest tuleva veretilgani
6 April 2016 18:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kujuta ise ette, sul on pingeline raske päev, ja siis keegi tuleb ja asub sinu kallal ilkuma, torkima ja ebanormaalne meelega olema... Sina, mittte vägivaldse inimesena, kui teine oma tegusi ei peata seda talt korduvalt nõudes... ja ta veel solvama ka asub ja edasi laseb... nu kas saad garanteerida, et Sa sa seda keha ei ründa, ei üheski olukorras?
Kuigi, teine otseselt füüsiliselt kallale ei tulnud sinule ja seega tava paberite peal kui tal silma siniseks lööd (või vahest sutsu tugevamini, nii et ta trammialla lendab vms) siis peab lööja süüdi jääma, sest temal on kahjustused ja sinu süüdistused on lihtsalt sinu poolsed "nda kaitseks" öeldud "arvatvasti"
Kuid kas siis seda lööjat, peab käsitlema samamoodi nagu neid kes on taplja loomuga ja nautisid oma tööd viimse veretilgani mis teisest tuli ?
Kuigi, teine otseselt füüsiliselt kallale ei tulnud sinule ja seega tava paberite peal kui tal silma siniseks lööd (või vahest sutsu tugevamini, nii et ta trammialla lendab vms) siis peab lööja süüdi jääma, sest temal on kahjustused ja sinu süüdistused on lihtsalt sinu poolsed "nda kaitseks" öeldud "arvatvasti"
Kuid kas siis seda lööjat, peab käsitlema samamoodi nagu neid kes on taplja loomuga ja nautisid oma tööd viimse veretilgani mis teisest tuli ?
6 April 2016 18:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Minu jaoks see seaduse selgitus muidu väga selge ja üllatavalt lihtne tundus, mis oli alguses raske, oli aru saada, mis asi on "Hingeline erutus seisund" ja miks just hingelist ja erutust, negatiivsega seostatakse, See on see mis sassi ajab maainimsel asja, sest hingeline erutus, tundub enamasti sügavalt positiivne asi mitte see kui partner sind pastakaga kõrva torgib ja peeretab sinu peavaluaeg meelega mitte midagi muud kasulikku tehes senikaua kui talle malmpanniga virutad korra
keset talle sööki valmistmaist
Siis see on vähem ohtlik tapmise vorm, sest ühtepidi tegin jumalale teene, et sellisest lahti said ja eelkõige, see polnud ette planeeritud ja sa ei lähe selle panniga järgmise naabri juurde, et teda ka loojakarja saata,
muidugi kui naaber seda väärt on, siis on teine asi, kuid see juba teine jutt..
keset talle sööki valmistmaist
Siis see on vähem ohtlik tapmise vorm, sest ühtepidi tegin jumalale teene, et sellisest lahti said ja eelkõige, see polnud ette planeeritud ja sa ei lähe selle panniga järgmise naabri juurde, et teda ka loojakarja saata,
muidugi kui naaber seda väärt on, siis on teine asi, kuid see juba teine jutt..
6 April 2016 18:38
Margus Meigo replied to Eduard Kakko's comment.
Nii ta on
6 April 2016 18:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Klick Full post to see rest of the information :
6 April 2016 18:32
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Vegani jama on umbes sama nagu feminism,
et selle asemel et sellest asi teha peaks kogu suurest pildist hoopis tõsisemalt aru saama, sh. see, et taimed on elus.
Feminsimi asemel on vaja Matriarhaatiat,
samamoodi nagu "veggani" saaga asemel on vaja lihtsalt Tarka, Tervislikku, Normaalset toitu
et selle asemel et sellest asi teha peaks kogu suurest pildist hoopis tõsisemalt aru saama, sh. see, et taimed on elus.
Feminsimi asemel on vaja Matriarhaatiat,
samamoodi nagu "veggani" saaga asemel on vaja lihtsalt Tarka, Tervislikku, Normaalset toitu
5 April 2016 04:42
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
NU veegan jama on jah äärmus, aga taimetoidu ja seemne-puuvilja toidulisus, see on see õige dieet mis on inimestele loodud ja mis on vaieldamatu tõestusega alati parem meie liigile.
Pole veel eriti palju taimetoidulisi kes rasvunud südame ja lõhkise sisikonnaga haiglauksetaga järjekorras oleks.
Mees, tugeva töö peal, kes neljandat põlve perekonniti on taimetoiduline, ütleb, et ta ei mäleta kunagi kedagi oma perest haige olema ja ise ka pole olnud, ta näeb välja nagu 35 aga on umbes 45+
Pole veel eriti palju taimetoidulisi kes rasvunud südame ja lõhkise sisikonnaga haiglauksetaga järjekorras oleks.
Mees, tugeva töö peal, kes neljandat põlve perekonniti on taimetoiduline, ütleb, et ta ei mäleta kunagi kedagi oma perest haige olema ja ise ka pole olnud, ta näeb välja nagu 35 aga on umbes 45+
5 April 2016 04:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mis sa arvad, kes meid siis liha sööma pani ku imitte tulnukad, Naine Naine... ühenda ennast juurtega ... ja uuri asjade kaugust... kellele ja miks see kasulik on kui inimesed valesti käituvad
5 April 2016 04:35
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
liha on liha öeldakse lihasööjate seltskonnas kui nälg on kallal,
nii mulle selgitati, et keemiliselt pole vahet, et saab proteiinid kätte mis vaja
nii mulle selgitati, et keemiliselt pole vahet, et saab proteiinid kätte mis vaja
5 April 2016 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
Isegi kui taimetoitlane EI muudaks oma netiskäike, telekavaatamisi, poe oste vähem keemilisemaks ja ei hakkaks vähem prügi tootma (lihatoidulistel rasva pesemiseks vaja rohkem aineid, kapeneid kordades rohkem jne) ... haigekassa järjekorrad meeletud mida meie peame maksma sest kellegil meeldib liha õgida ja siis looma surma depresioonist saadud valu alkoholiga kustutada ja viha mis teikib antidepresantidega tappa... isegi
siis kui ta ei teeks mingit muud muutust, siis ainult liha asemel taimi sööma hakates ja seemneid, Öka jalajälg muutuks TUNDUVALT parmaks ainuüksi selles osas kui palju vähem peab raiskama energiat selle looma sunniviisiliseks kasvatamiseks ja kohale toomiseks ja pakendamiseks... tervisenõuded ja külmkapid ja need üli mürgised gaasid külmkappides... mis just, ned kapid, eelkõige liha pärast on tehtud..
Et mis loogikaga saab arvata, et taimede pealt liha peale minnes, mutub jalajälg paremaks ?
Kas sa nagu tõsiselt räägid või testid lihtsalt jälle seda, kas ma päriselt ärkvel olen ja niisama naljatad nagu sul norimise mõttes kombeks on teiste mõttekooslusi esitleda nagu need su enda valed vaimusünnitused oleks, et siis vastane ennast treenida saaks ja arendada. Või sõber.
siis kui ta ei teeks mingit muud muutust, siis ainult liha asemel taimi sööma hakates ja seemneid, Öka jalajälg muutuks TUNDUVALT parmaks ainuüksi selles osas kui palju vähem peab raiskama energiat selle looma sunniviisiliseks kasvatamiseks ja kohale toomiseks ja pakendamiseks... tervisenõuded ja külmkapid ja need üli mürgised gaasid külmkappides... mis just, ned kapid, eelkõige liha pärast on tehtud..
Et mis loogikaga saab arvata, et taimede pealt liha peale minnes, mutub jalajälg paremaks ?
Kas sa nagu tõsiselt räägid või testid lihtsalt jälle seda, kas ma päriselt ärkvel olen ja niisama naljatad nagu sul norimise mõttes kombeks on teiste mõttekooslusi esitleda nagu need su enda valed vaimusünnitused oleks, et siis vastane ennast treenida saaks ja arendada. Või sõber.
5 April 2016 04:30
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
Mis moodi saab minu eco jalajälg olla SUUREM ?
Jällegi see kemikaal mis üleliigne ajus Sul, see arvutab VÄGA mööda.
Nimelt need kes lihasööjad on, on rohkem kiimas ja klikivad arutult netis rohkem ringi
Porno tootmine ja nende filmide üle neti streemimine on pea 30% interneti andmemahust osades võrkudes,
Lisaks lihasööjad vahivad tunduvalt, mitmetes kordades rohkem (pea 10 netes kordades enamasti) motetuid filme ja raiskavad aega lihtsalt pasiivselt videosi vahtides ja madalalaubalisemaid nalje jagades kui taimetoidulised kes VÄGA suure % osas on palju rohkem ärkvel ja teadlik mille jaoks kulutada aega või mitte.
Jällegi see kemikaal mis üleliigne ajus Sul, see arvutab VÄGA mööda.
Nimelt need kes lihasööjad on, on rohkem kiimas ja klikivad arutult netis rohkem ringi
Porno tootmine ja nende filmide üle neti streemimine on pea 30% interneti andmemahust osades võrkudes,
Lisaks lihasööjad vahivad tunduvalt, mitmetes kordades rohkem (pea 10 netes kordades enamasti) motetuid filme ja raiskavad aega lihtsalt pasiivselt videosi vahtides ja madalalaubalisemaid nalje jagades kui taimetoidulised kes VÄGA suure % osas on palju rohkem ärkvel ja teadlik mille jaoks kulutada aega või mitte.
5 April 2016 04:25
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
arvuti töötab nagunii, ja see energia mis raiskub on ette arvestatud, sest see on KOGU selle asja parandmiseks, mite ainult toitumine.
See toodaks MIINUST kui ma EI hoiaks oma arvutit sees võrreldes nende arvutite hulkadega mis on sees ja elu vastast süsteemi toodavad.
See toodaks MIINUST kui ma EI hoiaks oma arvutit sees võrreldes nende arvutite hulkadega mis on sees ja elu vastast süsteemi toodavad.
5 April 2016 04:22
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
Ja kui selline tapahimu on peal, jah.. mine koos huntidega, nuga käes metsa, mitte püssiga... ja siis karga kallale ja mõrva, ja söö... et tapetakse massiliselt erinevas mastaabis, ja siis selle ahigusega saab hiljem tegeleda, ja kord saavad kytitavad surma kord kütitav, siis oleks vähegi see "ürgemehe" see ahv kes polnud arenenud versioon, et kellel need geenid sees,saaksid neid veel välja elada ja omakordasiis saaks nende jahitjate peale jahti pidada teised pätid kellel tapa soov, asi oleks senikaua korras, ja selle pärast ei muretseks NII palju, seni kuni muud mured lahendatud oleks (ja muid muresi oleks palju vähem, kui need kes soovivadtapa, üksteist ära tapaksid)
aga nagu et minna laisalt poodi ja oma selveri korvi visata mingi looma raipe jäänuseid või kellegi lapse või ema keha tükke, et seda siis õllega koos alla kugistada... sundida veel kodus naine neid asju küpsetama ka tihtipeale... täisti "wau!"
aga nagu et minna laisalt poodi ja oma selveri korvi visata mingi looma raipe jäänuseid või kellegi lapse või ema keha tükke, et seda siis õllega koos alla kugistada... sundida veel kodus naine neid asju küpsetama ka tihtipeale... täisti "wau!"
5 April 2016 04:08
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
nii, ja milline haige loogika, on selline, et kui kasutame asju, mida haiged inimesed pole osanud muud moodi toota kui läbi looma ohvrite, siis peaksime loomade tapmist veel sinna juurde tootma, nõudes nende piinamist ja mõrvamist süstemaatiliselt, et saaksime nad endal kurgust alla kugistada ja oma tervist ja ühiskonda enda ümber rikkuda, mis loogika see teil on selline, paneb täiesti imestama.
See pole üldse sinu suunas sõber, selline kommunistlik igasugune loogika puudus on enamustel kes liha viirusega nakatanud, kes selles psüholoogilises haiguses, et täidavad oma sõltuvusttapahimuga ja ei suuda sellest lahti öelda, nagu perevägivalda armastav redsidivist või sarimõrvar... et jah.. see fantastiliselt omapärane näeh, millele ehk leidub veel see sajand, keeleline seletus millest saab aru nii arusaaamatu pool kui ka arusaaja pool samal ajal,
See pole üldse sinu suunas sõber, selline kommunistlik igasugune loogika puudus on enamustel kes liha viirusega nakatanud, kes selles psüholoogilises haiguses, et täidavad oma sõltuvusttapahimuga ja ei suuda sellest lahti öelda, nagu perevägivalda armastav redsidivist või sarimõrvar... et jah.. see fantastiliselt omapärane näeh, millele ehk leidub veel see sajand, keeleline seletus millest saab aru nii arusaaamatu pool kui ka arusaaja pool samal ajal,
5 April 2016 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
Sigade söömine takistas jalgratta otsa saamist varem, ikka see peaks selge inimestel olema, elementaarne,
Isegi Mike Tyson hakkas taimetoitlaseks, ja ütles, et jupp maad rohkem eluenergiat tal peale seda. Enne seda juba vaikselt surema hakkas, kondid murenesid ja liigesed olid haigusi täis.
http://www.thesportster.com/entertainment/top-15-athletes-you-didnt-know-were-vegetarian/
Isegi Mike Tyson hakkas taimetoitlaseks, ja ütles, et jupp maad rohkem eluenergiat tal peale seda. Enne seda juba vaikselt surema hakkas, kondid murenesid ja liigesed olid haigusi täis.
http://www.thesportster.com/entertainment/top-15-athletes-you-didnt-know-were-vegetarian/
http://www.thesportster.com/entertainment/top-15-athletes-you-didnt-know-were-vegetarian/
5 April 2016 03:53
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
NIng see, et tervisele on parem, sitt haiseb paremini ja on maapinnale mite enam mürgine vaid kasutatav, sexuaal performance peaks ka tõusma ja vähemalt kindlasti südame sideme sügavus naisega, sest tema vaim näeb, et sa pole enam lihaõgija murdja.
Mida naine ise sööb see naise asi, nad sünnitasid selle ilma, aga mitte meile matsutamiseks.
Mida naine ise sööb see naise asi, nad sünnitasid selle ilma, aga mitte meile matsutamiseks.
5 April 2016 03:47
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
Mis iganes räägid, ilmselge on, mida arvesse võtma peab, et taimetoidule kulub
a) vähem aega
b) annab rohkem energiat
c) säilib kauem
d) hoiab mõistuse selgemana
e) maitseb lõppude lõpuks paremini kui maitsemeeled korda saad (kuigi jah ,see vaieldav, sest teise verd õgides ikka lööb kaifi käima mõnel)
ning need kõigest esimesed, füüsilise maailma kasud.
See kui inimene on nii lammas, et ei oska aru saada, millised taimed ja seemned annavad energiat ja millised on vaja mõistuse või seedimise jaoks, see pole vabandus.
Mitmed maailma tipp jalgratturid ja keha musklimassi ehitajad on taimetoidulised ja mingeid ime kemikale nad ka ei söö.
Vaevalt, et 1888 kui see klubi tehti isegi oli toitulisandi kemikale
http://vegetariancac.org/club-history/ (lihtsalt näiteks, üks paljudest klubidest)
a) vähem aega
b) annab rohkem energiat
c) säilib kauem
d) hoiab mõistuse selgemana
e) maitseb lõppude lõpuks paremini kui maitsemeeled korda saad (kuigi jah ,see vaieldav, sest teise verd õgides ikka lööb kaifi käima mõnel)
ning need kõigest esimesed, füüsilise maailma kasud.
See kui inimene on nii lammas, et ei oska aru saada, millised taimed ja seemned annavad energiat ja millised on vaja mõistuse või seedimise jaoks, see pole vabandus.
Mitmed maailma tipp jalgratturid ja keha musklimassi ehitajad on taimetoidulised ja mingeid ime kemikale nad ka ei söö.
Vaevalt, et 1888 kui see klubi tehti isegi oli toitulisandi kemikale
http://vegetariancac.org/club-history/ (lihtsalt näiteks, üks paljudest klubidest)
http://vegetariancac.org/club-history/
5 April 2016 03:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
but all these "Stars" will be removed
5 April 2016 03:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
why would anyone buy a company, make it less better, and then keep running it on lower standards... ruing another company hard pioneering work and global unrepresented quality public image ... just some things in world, .. will put on side to think about..
back to regulating species basic needs now
back to regulating species basic needs now
5 April 2016 03:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
cant wait to get own silicon wally going
5 April 2016 03:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
and Linux many of them out of box is whole another level retarded as well for power users, last one on Ubuntu 16 was unable to handle 30+ tabs and the lack of useful easy to use best of the best.. lets not even go to there jet..
5 April 2016 03:30
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's photo.
ei tea, ühtegi hüüdlauset, mobiili ega pop kultuuri asja ei ole näha.. et kas ikka on väärtuslik..
5 April 2016 03:11
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's photo.
Et nagu see siis nagu ägedam kui selfid, grafiiti ja meemid ve?
5 April 2016 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Group: Rahvuslased
Ei mingit topelt standardit, AINULT sellised põgenikud palun!5 April 2016 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
Mõelda vaid, et sellised olukorrad on päriselt ka olemas : )
5 April 2016 03:06
Margus Meigo commented on Nabil Kamal's post.
Group: Galactic Federation of Light
Tel me about it5 April 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on Õie Korell's post.
Group: Loodusesõbrad
Wau!5 April 2016 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on Seth Patawaran's post.
Group: Galactic Federation of Light
But man should understand, he is at no level god at all,
just god can hide inside one, as candy paper is not a candy same way man should understand ones place as god is not arrogant5 April 2016 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on Manivald Kaev's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
sotta ei ole mõtet minna sellistega, sest lisaks enne olematule kogusele viirustele ja keepia ja nano relvadele, on palju muud mis paneks teise maailma sõja ja katku kokku tühise eelmängu valgusesse.
Vaja on KORDA seada ja paika panna, sest need kes nõuavad omale isakest ja korda, peavad seda ka saama, kommunistidest kuni muude istideni välja.
Targad on need kes suudavad asjad korda saada, ilma oma tütreid ohtu panemata5 April 2016 00:25
Margus Meigo commented on Manivald Kaev's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Seni kuni need ateistid jalus tolgendavad oma võrdsuse ja muu plämaga toovad nad kõigile hukatuse kaela kuna see sama vabadus mida me promome annab ka hoopis uue ja enne kuulmatu ohtlikuse ja võimu läbi sotsaalmeedia ja arvuti, neile keda enne suudeti hoida lahus ja nagu rahulikumana... kui sul aga miljard korraga peaks kordineeritult üles tõusma, arusaades,et nüüd on aeg, siis 100% kõik moslemid, kus iganes firmas nad on.. ei asu sinu pere huve kaitsma kui sa nende silmis räpane ajuinvaliid oled kes ei saa isegi aru , et maailm on loodud.. seega pole vaja alles hoida.
Kui aga vähegiajusi kasiutama riigis, siis sellel riigil peaks olema imago, et usk on nii elementaarne ja sügav, tõsine asi meie jaoks ,et me isegi ei vaidle sellel teemal ja vaatame neid kui noori asjalike lapsi kes üritavad puiselt ja süsteemiga teha mis meil juba 10 000 aastattagasi iseenesest mõistetav oli, kuidas me muidu selle ala peal rahulikult siin toimetatud oleme saanud5 April 2016 00:23
Margus Meigo commented on Manivald Kaev's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
nu jah, moslemitel point on suht reaalnetegelikult, kui viitsida avatumalt kaasa mõelda reaalses olukorras.
Muidugi tuleb selgitada ja paika panna, et kristlus on suurema õigusega kui Moslem ja Juudid on suurema õigusega kui Kristlased, ainult nende loogikate ja jõu struktuuridega on üldse võimalik astuda sellise raalsusele vastu.
Ja kuna juudid on Matriarhaatlikud, siis naised ise otsustavad mida ja kuidas nad kannavad, suurem osa seadusi muidugi ühtib, ka selles osas keda ja kuidas on vaja maha lüüa.
Moslemeid tuleb kiita nende julguse ja aktiivsuse eest, ja samas noomida, et nad oma isadele ja vanaisadele ei allu
Kõigelõpuks muidugi vana eestlane vaatab üle, kas nad asjad korda saanud on ja siis vaatab kas laseme teise ilma edasi või läheb ümber sepistamisele5 April 2016 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Kuid kus need raamatud nüüd saadaval on? Avalikuks tehakse v?5 April 2016 00:13
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Nu Norra-Rootslastelt nad kogu selle eugeenika asja õppisitki koos hulga muude õpetustega mis nad hauda viisid, sest nad trikitati kõikide juutide vastu, tegelikult nad oleks aga pidanud juudi raha päästmise ja puhastmaisega tegelema, kuid Rooma ja liberastide homo valitsusele , Luterlatele jms kurjamitele oli suureks kasuks SS mehed pimestada ja nad suurest pildist mööda vaatama panema.. ja isis oli juba hilja kui hilja oli... need sabad sõbrad kes kogu aluspinna seada aitasid ja eugeenika alused saksamaal seadistasid... andsid nuga selga ja tegid näo nagu nad poleks kohtunutki... eriti kui tuli välja, et hitler kogu planeedi Looduse eest seisma hakkab.,... see plaan ei läinud orjastajatele kohe kudiagi...
kuid jah.. eks ta üks keeruline ja võimas periood oli, kui jah.. see leid on hea ja meelega jäetud, et näha oleks millega NEMAD SEAL tegelesid ja kuidas mõtlesid5 April 2016 00:11
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
kui inimene peab meiki ja parukat kandma, et olla keegi kes ta hinges on, sis on ikka tõsiselt midagi tuksis,5 April 2016 00:07
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
kui nii poleks siis poleks ka sedasi nagu on mul see õnnis arusaam antud, et vaja pihta hakata ja niipaljud kui võimalik, sellele arusaamale sättida igas vallas mis on õigeima suunas
4 April 2016 23:51
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
Just, see mis räägid on suuresplaanis nii, et enne endaga ja siis suurem ülesanne ja siis tuleb Sul ka arvestada, et nii on.
Ja ega see raske polegi, lihtsalt ma olen idealist ja kõiki väärtuslikumaid ja kõiki mitte häid eraldada soovin edukalt, et keda ikka annab parandada parandaks ära, sest nad on teisest puust kui parandamatud.
Maailm ise võtaks palju radikaalsemalt, kergekäelisemalt vast.. et mis sa igat tikku ikka taga otsid, vahest lihtsam uus puu kasvatada. Kuid ,noh eks ta ole. kui nii poleks siis poleks ka sedasi nagu on
Ja ega see raske polegi, lihtsalt ma olen idealist ja kõiki väärtuslikumaid ja kõiki mitte häid eraldada soovin edukalt, et keda ikka annab parandada parandaks ära, sest nad on teisest puust kui parandamatud.
Maailm ise võtaks palju radikaalsemalt, kergekäelisemalt vast.. et mis sa igat tikku ikka taga otsid, vahest lihtsam uus puu kasvatada. Kuid ,noh eks ta ole. kui nii poleks siis poleks ka sedasi nagu on
4 April 2016 23:50
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
Praeguseks kanep ja herned,
jahe ka veel
need kes osakavad ja teavad mida süüa, need oskavad ja teavad mida teha nagunii. Kuid piirangute sättimine käib nende osas, kes hoolimatult on mõtlematud (või mõtlematult hoolimatud)
jahe ka veel
need kes osakavad ja teavad mida süüa, need oskavad ja teavad mida teha nagunii. Kuid piirangute sättimine käib nende osas, kes hoolimatult on mõtlematud (või mõtlematult hoolimatud)
4 April 2016 23:48
Margus Meigo replied to Püha Antonius's comment.
Üleolev jah kuidagi putukate suhtes, kuidas sedasi siis sobib, ja veel paneb selle ise positiivsesse vormi ka enda silmis, et "vähemalt ma ei suhtle..." nagu see hea arengu märk oleks
Kuidas ikka see kõrvadetagune ollus nii loogika vastupidi saab neil keerata kel ühiskonna dileerium, kiip sees või geenid õõnestatud .. täitsa alati paneb mind käsi kokku lööma ja imestuses lihtsalt vaatama, et mis kõik ilmas võimalik on. Sellistel puhkudel.
Kuidas ikka see kõrvadetagune ollus nii loogika vastupidi saab neil keerata kel ühiskonna dileerium, kiip sees või geenid õõnestatud .. täitsa alati paneb mind käsi kokku lööma ja imestuses lihtsalt vaatama, et mis kõik ilmas võimalik on. Sellistel puhkudel.
4 April 2016 23:45
Margus Meigo replied to Püha Antonius's comment.
Putsi poole ikka antonios mine siis kui Sul areng jätkunud on, see ilus ja püha koht, sinna mustadel ei sobi minna.
4 April 2016 23:45
Margus Meigo commented on Marek Prits's photo.
Tuletad mul sõpra Amir Taakit meelde siin
4 April 2016 23:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
" The first volume talks about how to blow up a car, make napalm and poisons such as ricin, nicotine, arsenic and cyanide. It also contained a full U.S. Army self-defense manual along with a gunsmithing workshop. This included diagrams of how to alter the firing mechanism for different firearms. These modifications were often to increase rate of fire. The second volume talks about improvised weapons that could be made legally using common household items. It also had a number of easily made and readily available booby traps and a number of other explosives recipes. The third volume, which was not widely available, is the least controversial as it mostly contained information on crime in modern society, how to beat the system, and significantly less information on "anarchism" or "terrorism." A fourth volume was published, but it is very rare to find a copy and contains more of what the previous volumes contained. In 2002, a fifth volume was published in CD-ROM format. In each book the author states that nothing in the book should be remanufactured, procured or otherwise created without first consulting the government of the area.4 April 2016 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
"The Poor Man's James Bond is a four book series originally intended for the survivalist-minded, compiled by writer Kurt Saxon (credited with coining the term "survivalist")[citation needed]. They were marketed toward the survivalist movement of the 1970s and 1980s, and as a counterpoint to The Anarchist Cookbook which Saxon claimed contained inaccurate information. The first volume was an expansion of an earlier Saxon book, The Militant's Formulario.
According to Saxon, during the 1960s he sent brochures about The Militant's Formulary to "several thousand" police and fire chiefs. His stated purpose was that, as a result of several officers being killed by "improvised weaponry directed at them by radicals", police and fire departments could use the literature "to recognize improvised bombs and such and their common components". However, some of the recipients believed Saxon to be a radical, and sent letters stating this fact to the police in Saxon's hometown...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Poor_Man%27s_James_Bondhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Poor_Man%27s_James_Bond
4 April 2016 23:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
You can use qTorrent software fro download, now at times this one is better then uTorrent as it traces less
https://sourceforge.net/projects/qbittorrent/?source=typ_redirecthttps://sourceforge.net/projects/qbittorrent/?source=typ_redirect
4 April 2016 23:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
olen kes ma tahan
vahel olen kes ma tahan, tahan
olen kes ma tahan
vahel olen kes ma tahan
aga ülejäänd aja süsteemi ori
ülejäänd aja süsteemi ori
ülejäänd aja süsteemi ori
ülejäänd aja
vahel ülbe ja segane, aga nii me paraku vist elame
mõnel olemas vaid kehakeel ja retsib elu nagu rebaseid
ema kodus räägib, oled kena noormees, ela veel
koorem kogub kaalu, vend veedab pool nädalat pelades
kunagi olin suur mees, vaata mind, riik taga otsib
ootan toitu nagu damagochi ja egoism mind aina toitis
suur praad, teine käik, magusroog, alandlikkus läind
valus tont, käib peol jutt, olen jäärajal palavikus käind
mida sa usud, tule ma tõestan, et räpparid tegelt ei olegi õelad
torgime vingume korduvalt ilgume kuni see kuradi koletis nõelab
terav shrek tuli, kaob nüüd igahetk uni
pettusin iseenda showl, a õnneks teil on tablett klubis
pingul on dekolteed, ahmin pilke, keha hingab veel
higine aur, ma olen vist maun, kui mõtlen, et täna ma kindlalt teen
eile kuradit, endale lubasin, olin ju kõrval, kui valisime neide
ohtlik tripp nagu talibani reis, beib, homme ma uurin oma kallimat eilsest
öö on hoor, haige tropp, põrge pehme nagu Nike Shox
õhtul pärast poolt kümmet ainus õige taipoks
houmid leilis, preili kleidis, jälgib peeglist meid ta pleisil
aju reisib, neiu karjub, et tõmba nahui, mul on nii kahju
et meil kaob ära piir, tallinkbuss viib ära siit
jätan mõned krundiohvrid rummikoksid pärandiks
tahan näha, kuhu tänav viib, uudishimu, ei saa ilma
näen kaarsillalt kogu maailma, ja ta tõmbab läbi nagu baar linnas
Esimene singel 03.07.2015 ilmuvalt debüütalbumilt Labürint
Instrumentaal: Grizzly
Lüürika: Joosep Vau
Mix & Master: Bert Prikenfeld(DJ Critikal) & Tanel Roovik
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/susteemi-orjad-laburint-2015
vahel olen kes ma tahan, tahan
olen kes ma tahan
vahel olen kes ma tahan
aga ülejäänd aja süsteemi ori
ülejäänd aja süsteemi ori
ülejäänd aja süsteemi ori
ülejäänd aja
vahel ülbe ja segane, aga nii me paraku vist elame
mõnel olemas vaid kehakeel ja retsib elu nagu rebaseid
ema kodus räägib, oled kena noormees, ela veel
koorem kogub kaalu, vend veedab pool nädalat pelades
kunagi olin suur mees, vaata mind, riik taga otsib
ootan toitu nagu damagochi ja egoism mind aina toitis
suur praad, teine käik, magusroog, alandlikkus läind
valus tont, käib peol jutt, olen jäärajal palavikus käind
mida sa usud, tule ma tõestan, et räpparid tegelt ei olegi õelad
torgime vingume korduvalt ilgume kuni see kuradi koletis nõelab
terav shrek tuli, kaob nüüd igahetk uni
pettusin iseenda showl, a õnneks teil on tablett klubis
pingul on dekolteed, ahmin pilke, keha hingab veel
higine aur, ma olen vist maun, kui mõtlen, et täna ma kindlalt teen
eile kuradit, endale lubasin, olin ju kõrval, kui valisime neide
ohtlik tripp nagu talibani reis, beib, homme ma uurin oma kallimat eilsest
öö on hoor, haige tropp, põrge pehme nagu Nike Shox
õhtul pärast poolt kümmet ainus õige taipoks
houmid leilis, preili kleidis, jälgib peeglist meid ta pleisil
aju reisib, neiu karjub, et tõmba nahui, mul on nii kahju
et meil kaob ära piir, tallinkbuss viib ära siit
jätan mõned krundiohvrid rummikoksid pärandiks
tahan näha, kuhu tänav viib, uudishimu, ei saa ilma
näen kaarsillalt kogu maailma, ja ta tõmbab läbi nagu baar linnas
Esimene singel 03.07.2015 ilmuvalt debüütalbumilt Labürint
Instrumentaal: Grizzly
Lüürika: Joosep Vau
Mix & Master: Bert Prikenfeld(DJ Critikal) & Tanel Roovik
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/susteemi-orjad-laburint-2015
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia/susteemi-orjad-laburint-2015
4 April 2016 23:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
One of the best readers: www.islamhouse.com/p/212893
http://www.islamhouse.com/p/212893
4 April 2016 23:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhnZysm3nm0&list=RDLhnZysm3nm0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhnZysm3nm0&list=RDLhnZysm3nm0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhnZysm3nm0&list=RDLhnZysm3nm0
4 April 2016 21:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kõike muud head: https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia
https://soundcloud.com/pkestonia
4 April 2016 21:20
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
Yes and Tulipe Noire from Algeria for sure did not kiss You from the last talk we had with Her... so newer sin against a Holy Spirt ne Women, as that just will make trouble in big time in Spirit World
4 April 2016 21:12
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
Good if You feel good. I just did not pick up any evil intent from the energy behind a words,
as there is some really dark things i come across often, and so From you just must worry about others who might get hit by the words, so i have to protect others from Your words at times, as i got some delegate treasure flowers in my contact list
as there is some really dark things i come across often, and so From you just must worry about others who might get hit by the words, so i have to protect others from Your words at times, as i got some delegate treasure flowers in my contact list
4 April 2016 20:29
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
If You can access larger amount of acid-25 then i recommend strongly, to make in nature, STRONG amounts of that... this might help You to clear up a words a bit, and edit You messages to make them more proper, they ruin my pure feel
if it is to much, 1-2 channeling like that can be, rest of that send in a mailbox, not in public reply unless it is proper answer more.. for now,
if it is to much, 1-2 channeling like that can be, rest of that send in a mailbox, not in public reply unless it is proper answer more.. for now,
4 April 2016 20:22
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
You do know, that we are banning sucking right ?
As comes out this is not natural thing for humans to do.
As comes out this is not natural thing for humans to do.
4 April 2016 20:18
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
And can not stress enough, true or not matters little, what is important to realize, that even if not true then is totally normal for SVR or some other agency to make up this story to fuel paranoia, untrust and damage public image of organization. And also, that helps in return to make other agents even if they was not connected by scaring new agents in to submission.. like "hey.. you not wanna end up in a bad do you.." and top of that they can say "and after that we can make it look like homo story besides that you traitor if ya not co operate..."
simple as that
people at times really forget what level on all sides these games happen, and this what ends up in everyday media.. is just a ...small part of cream , for self protection and intimidating someone else (as if you make story a popular then you can attach on to a story any kind of files.. )
simple as that
people at times really forget what level on all sides these games happen, and this what ends up in everyday media.. is just a ...small part of cream , for self protection and intimidating someone else (as if you make story a popular then you can attach on to a story any kind of files.. )
4 April 2016 20:13
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
Or cases like that:
June 22–23, 2001 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Dark_Winter AND:
Sept. 18, 2001– Oct. 9, 2001 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks
"2002, it was noted that there were variants or mutations in the anthrax cultures that were grown from powder found in the letters. Scientists at TIGR sequenced the complete genomes from many of these isolates during the period from 2002 to 2004. This sequencing identified three relatively large changes in some of the isolates, each comprising a region of DNA that had been duplicated or triplicated"
"Some of the anthrax spores (65–75%) in the anthrax attack letters contained silicon inside their spore coats. Silicon was even reportedly found inside the natural spore coat of a spore that was still inside the "mother germ", which was asserted to confirm that the element was not added after the spores were formed and purified, i.e., the spores were not "weaponized"
""Hundreds of FBI personnel worked the case at the outset, struggling to discern whether the Sept. 11 al-Qaeda attacks and the anthrax murders were connected before eventually concluding that they were not.""
"The FBI and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention both gave permission for Iowa State University to destroy the Iowa anthrax archive, and the archive was destroyed on October 10 and 11, 2001."
"The FBI and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) investigation has been hampered by the destruction of a large collection of anthrax spores collected over more than seven decades and kept in more than 100 vials at Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa. Many scientists claim that the quick destruction of the anthrax spores collection in Iowa eliminated crucial evidence useful for the investigation. "
"A precise match between the strain of anthrax used in the attacks and a strain in the collection would have offered hints as to when bacteria had been isolated and, perhaps, as to how widely it had been distributed to researchers. Such genetic clues could have given investigators the evidence necessary to identify the perpetrators."
"Immediately after the anthrax attacks, White House officials repeatedly pressured FBI Director Robert Mueller to prove that they were a second-wave assault by al-Qaeda following the September 11 attacks. During the president's morning intelligence briefings, Mueller was "beaten up" for not producing proof that the killer spores were the handiwork of terrorist mastermind Osama Bin Laden, according to a former aide. "They really wanted to blame somebody in the Middle East," the retired senior FBI official stated. The FBI knew early on that the anthrax used was of a consistency requiring sophisticated equipment and was unlikely to have been produced in some "cave". "
it is like they make sport, intelligence games, intel tests, screwing each other, shooting each other to a foot and beating them self up all at once,
What kind of sadomasochistic order does that out of boredom and testings...
Oh one more thing.. how come FBI got all the shit and why CIA was so quiet about it... wait a minute... What was this Operation Dark Winter about again and when was made?
And can we imagine, this is public information, this is HOW low level intelligence is considered most of the human animals here to be... and they prove, by these intelligence tests openly, that this is how serious the information is, when people are not even uble to cnnect simple public sources NAMED BY SAME NAMES AND DATES ... seriously...
June 22–23, 2001 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Dark_Winter AND:
Sept. 18, 2001– Oct. 9, 2001 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks
"2002, it was noted that there were variants or mutations in the anthrax cultures that were grown from powder found in the letters. Scientists at TIGR sequenced the complete genomes from many of these isolates during the period from 2002 to 2004. This sequencing identified three relatively large changes in some of the isolates, each comprising a region of DNA that had been duplicated or triplicated"
"Some of the anthrax spores (65–75%) in the anthrax attack letters contained silicon inside their spore coats. Silicon was even reportedly found inside the natural spore coat of a spore that was still inside the "mother germ", which was asserted to confirm that the element was not added after the spores were formed and purified, i.e., the spores were not "weaponized"
""Hundreds of FBI personnel worked the case at the outset, struggling to discern whether the Sept. 11 al-Qaeda attacks and the anthrax murders were connected before eventually concluding that they were not.""
"The FBI and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention both gave permission for Iowa State University to destroy the Iowa anthrax archive, and the archive was destroyed on October 10 and 11, 2001."
"The FBI and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) investigation has been hampered by the destruction of a large collection of anthrax spores collected over more than seven decades and kept in more than 100 vials at Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa. Many scientists claim that the quick destruction of the anthrax spores collection in Iowa eliminated crucial evidence useful for the investigation. "
"A precise match between the strain of anthrax used in the attacks and a strain in the collection would have offered hints as to when bacteria had been isolated and, perhaps, as to how widely it had been distributed to researchers. Such genetic clues could have given investigators the evidence necessary to identify the perpetrators."
"Immediately after the anthrax attacks, White House officials repeatedly pressured FBI Director Robert Mueller to prove that they were a second-wave assault by al-Qaeda following the September 11 attacks. During the president's morning intelligence briefings, Mueller was "beaten up" for not producing proof that the killer spores were the handiwork of terrorist mastermind Osama Bin Laden, according to a former aide. "They really wanted to blame somebody in the Middle East," the retired senior FBI official stated. The FBI knew early on that the anthrax used was of a consistency requiring sophisticated equipment and was unlikely to have been produced in some "cave". "
it is like they make sport, intelligence games, intel tests, screwing each other, shooting each other to a foot and beating them self up all at once,
What kind of sadomasochistic order does that out of boredom and testings...
Oh one more thing.. how come FBI got all the shit and why CIA was so quiet about it... wait a minute... What was this Operation Dark Winter about again and when was made?
And can we imagine, this is public information, this is HOW low level intelligence is considered most of the human animals here to be... and they prove, by these intelligence tests openly, that this is how serious the information is, when people are not even uble to cnnect simple public sources NAMED BY SAME NAMES AND DATES ... seriously...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Dark_Winter
4 April 2016 19:40
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
not directly related, but
how do you feel about cases like that,:
" The British matemathician from MI6 who hacked US president, whose body was found padlocked inside a gym bag in Security Service safehouce apartment likely died in an accident with no one else involved, "
http://www.businessinsider.com/kgb-defector-russia-killed-the-british-spy-found-in-a-duffel-bag-2015-9
Boris Karpichkov, a former KGB agent who defected from Russia claimed that the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, also known as the SVR, was responsible for Williams's murder. According to Karpichkov, the SVR tried and failed to blackmail Williams into becoming a double agent.
In response to the SVR's attempts, Williams apparently claimed that he knew "the identity of a Russian spy inside the GCHQ." Karpichkov claimed that Williams's threat meant that "the SVR then had no alternative but to exterminate him in order to protect their agent inside GCHQ." Regarding the cause of death, Karpichkov claimed that the SVR killed Williams "by an untraceable poison introduced in his ear."
-
Scotland Yard claimed that he had locked himself in the bag by accident.
“The MPS position is that, on balance, it is a more probable conclusion that there was no other person present when Gareth died.
Funny thing is, that if You google "padlocked bag" https://goo.gl/Hyu0Yf then all the storys come are related to this one case, So basically this "padlocked bag" is synonymos to guys name
but what is whorst, this: http://www.theawl.com/2010/09/british-spy-likely-killed-by-jealous-gay-lover-says-u-s-spy-expert ?
How in ta world even any intelligence office can hire gays, drunkards and perverts? This should be FIRST level of elimination of ANY person who works for order and rights of people on that level, as it is SO easy to turn homos in to doubble agents and to turn them to any direction as this spirit minds work only one or two ways that is simple to predict and ones "sexuallity" is always for them more important, as they are spirit posessed then state securiy or relgious, humans right.
So if this would be on place then there can be no dirty scenario that can be used against cases like that, as it would be impossible, that homo soviet spy double agent tricked him to go inside a bag and .. wait again.. how did he die in a bag? Would be easy to see if one was fighting in a bad.. was starving... really.. is these news for 5 years olds? And take look of hes anus, does it look like homo one or not, and penis does it have particles of on it that should not be and mouth... this would clear up as medically clean at least. As is amazing how deep todays world can investigate.
And then we are given this ?
-------
" Williams had recently qualified for operational deployment, and had worked with U.S. National Security Agency and FBI agents. The U.S. State Department asked that no details of Williams's work should emerge at the inquest. The Foreign Secretary, William Hague, signed a Public-interest immunity certificate authorising the withholding from the inquest of details of Williams's work and U.S. joint operations "
For a note: no, people in that level most likely are not a perverts, they can not afford to be
how do you feel about cases like that,:
" The British matemathician from MI6 who hacked US president, whose body was found padlocked inside a gym bag in Security Service safehouce apartment likely died in an accident with no one else involved, "
http://www.businessinsider.com/kgb-defector-russia-killed-the-british-spy-found-in-a-duffel-bag-2015-9
Boris Karpichkov, a former KGB agent who defected from Russia claimed that the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, also known as the SVR, was responsible for Williams's murder. According to Karpichkov, the SVR tried and failed to blackmail Williams into becoming a double agent.
In response to the SVR's attempts, Williams apparently claimed that he knew "the identity of a Russian spy inside the GCHQ." Karpichkov claimed that Williams's threat meant that "the SVR then had no alternative but to exterminate him in order to protect their agent inside GCHQ." Regarding the cause of death, Karpichkov claimed that the SVR killed Williams "by an untraceable poison introduced in his ear."
-
Scotland Yard claimed that he had locked himself in the bag by accident.
“The MPS position is that, on balance, it is a more probable conclusion that there was no other person present when Gareth died.
Funny thing is, that if You google "padlocked bag" https://goo.gl/Hyu0Yf then all the storys come are related to this one case, So basically this "padlocked bag" is synonymos to guys name
but what is whorst, this: http://www.theawl.com/2010/09/british-spy-likely-killed-by-jealous-gay-lover-says-u-s-spy-expert ?
How in ta world even any intelligence office can hire gays, drunkards and perverts? This should be FIRST level of elimination of ANY person who works for order and rights of people on that level, as it is SO easy to turn homos in to doubble agents and to turn them to any direction as this spirit minds work only one or two ways that is simple to predict and ones "sexuallity" is always for them more important, as they are spirit posessed then state securiy or relgious, humans right.
So if this would be on place then there can be no dirty scenario that can be used against cases like that, as it would be impossible, that homo soviet spy double agent tricked him to go inside a bag and .. wait again.. how did he die in a bag? Would be easy to see if one was fighting in a bad.. was starving... really.. is these news for 5 years olds? And take look of hes anus, does it look like homo one or not, and penis does it have particles of on it that should not be and mouth... this would clear up as medically clean at least. As is amazing how deep todays world can investigate.
And then we are given this ?
-------
" Williams had recently qualified for operational deployment, and had worked with U.S. National Security Agency and FBI agents. The U.S. State Department asked that no details of Williams's work should emerge at the inquest. The Foreign Secretary, William Hague, signed a Public-interest immunity certificate authorising the withholding from the inquest of details of Williams's work and U.S. joint operations "
For a note: no, people in that level most likely are not a perverts, they can not afford to be
http://www.businessinsider.com/kgb-defector-russia-killed-the-british-spy-found-in-a-duffel-bag-2015-9
4 April 2016 19:28
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
Kings Service for Life!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1563311213996865&set=pcb.1563280173999969&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1563311213996865&set=pcb.1563280173999969&type=3&theater
4 April 2016 18:08
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
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4 April 2016 18:07
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
4 April 2016 18:01
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
4 April 2016 17:49
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
Girl, You still using swear word,
But talking about Philip K. Dick ..
Did You notice in big screen HD what was the colors on the hat... and You know the Notebook..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqmsnG8nE3c
But talking about Philip K. Dick ..
Did You notice in big screen HD what was the colors on the hat... and You know the Notebook..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqmsnG8nE3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqmsnG8nE3c
4 April 2016 17:46
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Mis seal kahju on, see on ikka üli hea, see keda armastad ei saa sind kahjustada
Muidugi armastust tuleb õppida õigesti, muidu kahjustad iseennast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJQPr-rZyaY&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=40
Muidugi armastust tuleb õppida õigesti, muidu kahjustad iseennast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJQPr-rZyaY&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJQPr-rZyaY&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=40
4 April 2016 17:25
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
it makes mind dirty, like someone taking dump in my mind when i see swear word or hear it, so edit your comment and fix it please.
If i would only know Who You think We are...
If i would only know Who You think We are...
4 April 2016 17:21
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
Stop swearing on my wall girl
4 April 2016 17:20
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
I see You on the case
4 April 2016 17:10
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
Do You think is Germany who run these programs In Peru:
"Deputy Dora Núñez Dávila made the accusation in September 2003 that 400,000 indigenous people were sterilized during the 1990s. "
"Final Report ordered by the Minister of Health revealed that between 1995 and 2000, 331,600 women were sterilized, while 25,590 men submitted to vasectomies"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization
"Deputy Dora Núñez Dávila made the accusation in September 2003 that 400,000 indigenous people were sterilized during the 1990s. "
"Final Report ordered by the Minister of Health revealed that between 1995 and 2000, 331,600 women were sterilized, while 25,590 men submitted to vasectomies"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization
4 April 2016 17:01
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
"over 400,000 individuals were sterilised under the German law and its revisions, most within its first four years of being enacted. When the issue of compulsory sterilisation was brought up at the Nuremberg trials after the war, many Nazis defended their actions on the matter by indicating that it was the United States itself from whom they had taken inspiration. "
and because Germans know in order well how to do what is needed proper and fast they did it... others want to do much more and larger just did not know how to.. and did not have balls for it as they had dark plans.. Germany acted out or belief it is something that is good for species, according to teachings of Swedes and USA.
And no, i am not blame here to much anyone, just need a justice of people being open what they mistake about and why , if they keep protecting these alien commies that did these evils then they are in team with the... German numbers also so big as they documented all as they did honest work..
others.. they was more about eliminating the "real danger" to Roman Empire.. so they did not document... just the ill ones they did mostly. As if people plan crime they do not make much documents about it... when they do honest work.. they mark down all they can to help in future to understand what happened..
unfortunately we have right now jet no way to know.. if these was real jews that was eliminated or the ones that are fake jews that are actually anti jews... that was from wrong side of family tree that got to them self what they planned.. who knows... horrible one way or another.. but truth behind that all is much more horrible then this what is show...
i still think, hebrew jews are probably one of the most valued beings on earth right now, and it is easy to prove, even their bastard child offspring with no beard has great value (like owner of google, original inventor of Mac computer, facebook... just name of few )
... i will plan to bring them all to their roots, so they will have actual value in co-operation not competing
and this piece is from socialists them self ironically:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/1999/03/euge-19m.html
and because Germans know in order well how to do what is needed proper and fast they did it... others want to do much more and larger just did not know how to.. and did not have balls for it as they had dark plans.. Germany acted out or belief it is something that is good for species, according to teachings of Swedes and USA.
And no, i am not blame here to much anyone, just need a justice of people being open what they mistake about and why , if they keep protecting these alien commies that did these evils then they are in team with the... German numbers also so big as they documented all as they did honest work..
others.. they was more about eliminating the "real danger" to Roman Empire.. so they did not document... just the ill ones they did mostly. As if people plan crime they do not make much documents about it... when they do honest work.. they mark down all they can to help in future to understand what happened..
unfortunately we have right now jet no way to know.. if these was real jews that was eliminated or the ones that are fake jews that are actually anti jews... that was from wrong side of family tree that got to them self what they planned.. who knows... horrible one way or another.. but truth behind that all is much more horrible then this what is show...
i still think, hebrew jews are probably one of the most valued beings on earth right now, and it is easy to prove, even their bastard child offspring with no beard has great value (like owner of google, original inventor of Mac computer, facebook... just name of few )
... i will plan to bring them all to their roots, so they will have actual value in co-operation not competing
and this piece is from socialists them self ironically:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/1999/03/euge-19m.html
4 April 2016 16:52
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/7430122/The-dark-side-of-Swedish-society.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/7430122/The-dark-side-of-Swedish-society.html
4 April 2016 16:52
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
"Från politik till praktik: de svenska steriliseringslagarna 1935–1975, 2nd edn (Almqvist & Wiksell, Stockholm, 2002 "
http://rsnr.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/64/4/379
http://rsnr.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/64/4/379
4 April 2016 16:50
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
But You are a chick right ? : )
You newer know these days ...
The price is priceless
But You re talk the ideas with these separate groups related to these people http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580 and they most likely assure You that this is a real life. After all, its my blood on the revolutionary banner, for standing up for a Queen in occupy Anarchist communist-capitalists squat.
I mean, Your own Empire's Queen,
and i am peasant from a Country who's Saaremaa "vikings" traveled to South Africa to fight against occupiers, have to stand up for Her, because locals does not have brain enough to see that She is one of the last stops among few others, who hold back the robotic pentagram armies
does not matter they have been in hostage about last 1000 years (France Royalty in pair with Nomads-Vikings, basically Roman-Greek hidden Empire that was also behind Communists and liberal anti Hebrew eugenic projects in Sweden who trained Nazis (and Lutheranisms who trained Hitler to hate Hebrews religiously ) )
http://rsnr.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/64/4/379 - but guess who (Liberal Occupied Swedes, Commies, Pentagrams, Vikings, Aliens ) was so smart to make the ONE (besides Animistic Nature Japan) in blame,
them that ENTIRE robotic sleeping world was forced to fight against or stand back (or their assets would be freezed, no not Hebrew Jews behind this)
and in return in the end blame Natzis of ALL THEY (Liberal Swedes, Pentagrams, Lutherians) told, instructed Germany to do? Telling story "How is and what is solution they ALL do 40 years ago already......" .. yeah Germans was fooled proper on it... And promised these Swedes and socialists strong support... but same time they was in partner with USA in deepest eugenic matters and secretly who run them really, the Roman Empire commies... who want to use eugenic to eliminate opponents who think differently, and who is REAL religious or spiritual... so the special kind of people can not birth anymore... (remember the story, when in bible they asked to kill all new born babies on some periods?They want to do that but more un noticed and final way.. to assure, that God connected people or prophets or wizards and medicine man can not exist... )
As, as soon Hitler turned to Vegetarianism and started to promote animal rights (largest pro animal rights movement and laws EVER made in planet Earth, on our species history....) as they was getting in contact with spirit of forests and god.. but then in this reality they was still so mixed up and fooled and tricked and back stabbed by their friends who help to build up the eugenic centers for species regulation... difference is that Germany idea was to study how to rise everyone's intelligence but the opponents (from who half pretended to be friends at first) they wanted to use it as weapon to eliminate some types of humans and to keep rest of them in controlled development...
Hitler newer assumed in the beginning that he is standing up against cosmic, true religious forces of darkness that are out of this world, who can turn anything around and against you later... as they have epic experience..
So these red commies fooled youth in UK, who is against their own land and parents and even against Queen who they should support and SAVE FROM Government who is holding Royals in hidden hostage, in public sight. ...
they stand for things that are more "fascist" then they can even dare to imagine..
So yea.. and then some one worries about me.. really..
You newer know these days ...
The price is priceless
But You re talk the ideas with these separate groups related to these people http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580 and they most likely assure You that this is a real life. After all, its my blood on the revolutionary banner, for standing up for a Queen in occupy Anarchist communist-capitalists squat.
I mean, Your own Empire's Queen,
and i am peasant from a Country who's Saaremaa "vikings" traveled to South Africa to fight against occupiers, have to stand up for Her, because locals does not have brain enough to see that She is one of the last stops among few others, who hold back the robotic pentagram armies
does not matter they have been in hostage about last 1000 years (France Royalty in pair with Nomads-Vikings, basically Roman-Greek hidden Empire that was also behind Communists and liberal anti Hebrew eugenic projects in Sweden who trained Nazis (and Lutheranisms who trained Hitler to hate Hebrews religiously ) )
http://rsnr.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/64/4/379 - but guess who (Liberal Occupied Swedes, Commies, Pentagrams, Vikings, Aliens ) was so smart to make the ONE (besides Animistic Nature Japan) in blame,
them that ENTIRE robotic sleeping world was forced to fight against or stand back (or their assets would be freezed, no not Hebrew Jews behind this)
and in return in the end blame Natzis of ALL THEY (Liberal Swedes, Pentagrams, Lutherians) told, instructed Germany to do? Telling story "How is and what is solution they ALL do 40 years ago already......" .. yeah Germans was fooled proper on it... And promised these Swedes and socialists strong support... but same time they was in partner with USA in deepest eugenic matters and secretly who run them really, the Roman Empire commies... who want to use eugenic to eliminate opponents who think differently, and who is REAL religious or spiritual... so the special kind of people can not birth anymore... (remember the story, when in bible they asked to kill all new born babies on some periods?They want to do that but more un noticed and final way.. to assure, that God connected people or prophets or wizards and medicine man can not exist... )
As, as soon Hitler turned to Vegetarianism and started to promote animal rights (largest pro animal rights movement and laws EVER made in planet Earth, on our species history....) as they was getting in contact with spirit of forests and god.. but then in this reality they was still so mixed up and fooled and tricked and back stabbed by their friends who help to build up the eugenic centers for species regulation... difference is that Germany idea was to study how to rise everyone's intelligence but the opponents (from who half pretended to be friends at first) they wanted to use it as weapon to eliminate some types of humans and to keep rest of them in controlled development...
Hitler newer assumed in the beginning that he is standing up against cosmic, true religious forces of darkness that are out of this world, who can turn anything around and against you later... as they have epic experience..
So these red commies fooled youth in UK, who is against their own land and parents and even against Queen who they should support and SAVE FROM Government who is holding Royals in hidden hostage, in public sight. ...
they stand for things that are more "fascist" then they can even dare to imagine..
So yea.. and then some one worries about me.. really..
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580
4 April 2016 16:50
Margus Meigo commented on Jennifer Nimmerfeldt's post.
Wau, Sina ka,
Ei imesta,
Tervitusi 83. generatsioonilt : )
Ei imesta,
Tervitusi 83. generatsioonilt : )
4 April 2016 04:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Tarkvarapatentidest ei hakka rääkimagi. Loodan, et seda teete täna teie. "
http://oiguskantsler.ee/et/oiguskantsler-ulle-madise-tervitus-eesti-teadusagentuuri-norra-kuningriigi-euroopa-liidu-ja-eesti-0
http://oiguskantsler.ee/et/oiguskantsler-ulle-madise-tervitus-eesti-teadusagentuuri-norra-kuningriigi-euroopa-liidu-ja-eesti-0
http://oiguskantsler.ee/et/oiguskantsler-ulle-madise-tervitus-eesti-teadusagentuuri-norra-kuningriigi-euroopa-liidu-ja-eesti-0
4 April 2016 04:38
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Lühifilmi Keskus's post.
i mean ,va-chaina
4 April 2016 04:35
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Lühifilmi Keskus's post.
virgina?
4 April 2016 04:34
Margus Meigo commented on Ylle BööDi's photo.
kamoon, viisakad mehed onavad ainult siidikindaga
4 April 2016 04:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Haridus & kultuur
Ja tõsist haridus.. palju veel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KMcNsT29a4&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=39https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KMcNsT29a4&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=39
4 April 2016 04:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Eesti Haridusfoorum
Loodetavasti terminaatroite tehased sellese kõiki mõistlikult suhtuvad4 April 2016 04:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Eesti Haridusfoorum
Muidugi nendel lihtsalt arusaadav mitmekesiline haridus, mitmetasandiline siis,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJQPr-rZyaY&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=40https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJQPr-rZyaY&list=PLRjhFIMgoMVNLFaVprsEsY3F2jFNutu5X&index=40
4 April 2016 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hariduse edendajad
See mürk võtab hinge seest.. kuid kes kuuleb..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g--avr24YKYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g--avr24YKY
4 April 2016 03:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Loodan, et eestlaste kanalid nii kinni pole, et paraleel tekste enam jooksult tajuda ei mõisteta, umbes nagu keegi kes iganes see vanamees sealt ekreees otsast oli, kuulsin teda jahumas millegist kus ta selgelt andis mõista, et tal ei ole Eesti vaid alaväärsuskompleksi kanalid lahti ,
ehk isegi see parandatav
ehk isegi see parandatav
4 April 2016 03:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KakYRzi1AeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KakYRzi1AeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KakYRzi1AeM
4 April 2016 03:38
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpRcueiwIig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpRcueiwIig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpRcueiwIig
4 April 2016 03:34
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
4 April 2016 03:30
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
.:.
filosoofilistest ja muusikalistest rusikatest, peopesadest paitamiseks, rääkimatagi, mõtlematagi, tundmatagi..oh.. tunnetades yeah, 83. a versioonidele
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAwYodrBr2Q
filosoofilistest ja muusikalistest rusikatest, peopesadest paitamiseks, rääkimatagi, mõtlematagi, tundmatagi..oh.. tunnetades yeah, 83. a versioonidele
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAwYodrBr2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAwYodrBr2Q
4 April 2016 03:26
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ei, sina eksisteerid tänu liberaalsetele eukeenika reeglitele, siin ajad paar asja sassi.
Või noh, eks võib öelda ka sedapidi, et minusugused sündisid läbi nende katsetuste mille tarkuse suurusest aru ei saadud ja kelle osas nad ei oska muud peale hakata, kui loota, et me vanadusse ära sureme ilma, et kõike seda alumistele pimedatele silme ette toome, mida meiesugustel väljalastevarjantidel näha ja tajuda on võimalik,
jah ,tõsi, mitte küll nii pikalt ja rahulikult kogu selle töö viljade nautimisega siin ilmas tegeleda mida teile teeme, kui te ise just mingitpidi nii targaks ei saa, et Suurele Tõllale pea otsa tagasi KASVATATE ja ta naise armastuse taastate, te mudilased,
kuid seniks... on üle ilma neid hingesi ringi lippamas ja millal iganes kogu mahus raud või nanotehnoloogilise või veelgi, väga palju peenema ja udulisema tehnloogilise või biloogilise rusikaga virutades, sahtli tühjaks kogu rügemendil, ühe köhatusega, olenemata node ettevalmistuses,t sest ei saa valmistada ette selle jaoks mida ei näe ega tea, ja mille mõjust saad siis alles aru kui see ära olnud on
Või noh, eks võib öelda ka sedapidi, et minusugused sündisid läbi nende katsetuste mille tarkuse suurusest aru ei saadud ja kelle osas nad ei oska muud peale hakata, kui loota, et me vanadusse ära sureme ilma, et kõike seda alumistele pimedatele silme ette toome, mida meiesugustel väljalastevarjantidel näha ja tajuda on võimalik,
jah ,tõsi, mitte küll nii pikalt ja rahulikult kogu selle töö viljade nautimisega siin ilmas tegeleda mida teile teeme, kui te ise just mingitpidi nii targaks ei saa, et Suurele Tõllale pea otsa tagasi KASVATATE ja ta naise armastuse taastate, te mudilased,
kuid seniks... on üle ilma neid hingesi ringi lippamas ja millal iganes kogu mahus raud või nanotehnoloogilise või veelgi, väga palju peenema ja udulisema tehnloogilise või biloogilise rusikaga virutades, sahtli tühjaks kogu rügemendil, ühe köhatusega, olenemata node ettevalmistuses,t sest ei saa valmistada ette selle jaoks mida ei näe ega tea, ja mille mõjust saad siis alles aru kui see ära olnud on
4 April 2016 03:23
Margus Meigo replied to Püha Antonius's comment.
Ma selles tehases käinud hingetehases kus hingesuuruseid juurvilju teadlased lõikunud ja katsetanud nendega.. neil täis isiksused... ega mul muidu omastkäest kinnitust polekski...
vahe selles, et kui ma taimi söön, siis ma TEAN, et ma söön elusolendit.. aga lihasööja ei mõista, et ta raibetki sööb.. kelle keha surres eriti ebatervislik ...
vahe selles, et kui ma taimi söön, siis ma TEAN, et ma söön elusolendit.. aga lihasööja ei mõista, et ta raibetki sööb.. kelle keha surres eriti ebatervislik ...
4 April 2016 03:16
Margus Meigo replied to Püha Antonius's comment.
Mõtle KUI ülimadalalt tasemelt lääne "teadus" üldse alustas, ja kui lapsekingades nad on erinevate putuka ja taimeliikidega suhtluses ja nende kuningriikidega majandades...see lause su artiklist seletab iseenesest:
"Lääne filosoofia ning teadus on loomi ning taimi pidanud ebaintelligentseteks instinktidele alluvateks olenditeks. Jon LieffViimasel dekaadil on ilmunud palju uurimusi, mis tõestavad vastupidist."
wau nagu, kuidas saab inimene siin planeedil sellise kuivatuspaberina üles kasvada, et arvab, et ta on taimest kes enne tead siin oli arukam, lihtsalt veendumusega, et on, ise aga vaevu oskab mingi osaga oma liigist suhelda ja aru ning läbi saada.
Vot SEE on minu jaoks tõsiselt müstiline, et kuidas inimesed sellisesse arengupeetusesse sattusid, et arvasid ennast loodusest kes neid sünnitas targem olema...
arvatvasti läheb veel aega kuni Belatonna -tubakataime -tomati - kartuli kaheõieliste konspiratsioone meie liigi osas ilmsiks tuleb ja seda sõda mõistma hakatakse... kuid see selleks, enne peaks rottidest ja hiirtest arusaama hakkama.
Mis aega ei ole müstiline, et : Kas see kurk saab rohkem fänne kui Edgar Savisaar?
"Lääne filosoofia ning teadus on loomi ning taimi pidanud ebaintelligentseteks instinktidele alluvateks olenditeks. Jon LieffViimasel dekaadil on ilmunud palju uurimusi, mis tõestavad vastupidist."
wau nagu, kuidas saab inimene siin planeedil sellise kuivatuspaberina üles kasvada, et arvab, et ta on taimest kes enne tead siin oli arukam, lihtsalt veendumusega, et on, ise aga vaevu oskab mingi osaga oma liigist suhelda ja aru ning läbi saada.
Vot SEE on minu jaoks tõsiselt müstiline, et kuidas inimesed sellisesse arengupeetusesse sattusid, et arvasid ennast loodusest kes neid sünnitas targem olema...
arvatvasti läheb veel aega kuni Belatonna -tubakataime -tomati - kartuli kaheõieliste konspiratsioone meie liigi osas ilmsiks tuleb ja seda sõda mõistma hakatakse... kuid see selleks, enne peaks rottidest ja hiirtest arusaama hakkama.
Mis aega ei ole müstiline, et : Kas see kurk saab rohkem fänne kui Edgar Savisaar?
4 April 2016 03:13
Margus Meigo replied to Püha Antonius's comment.
sest point ei ole mitte süüa liha, vaid süüa seda mis on kasulik ja kahjutu
4 April 2016 03:04
Margus Meigo replied to Püha Antonius's comment.
Kui me räägime taimetoidust, siis iga arukas inimene kes aru saab taimetoidu arengust, mis inimliigile mõeldud, saab aru, et rägitakse seemnete ja puuviljade suunast, mis on inimestele mõeldud (ja ka teatud maised taimed, kes ei karju)
4 April 2016 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to Püha Antonius's comment.
Arvad tõesti, et mini gramaatika on midagi, mille kallal sinusuguse arenguga inimestel on õigus ilkuda? Et oskad numbreid ritta panna ja robotina reeglid ära õppinud keele jaoks, aga arusaamist, MIKS ja MIS keelt õppisid, seda ei ole ?
Usud,et võid seda keelt kasutada, mille iganes rääkimiseks?
Ei või
See on AINULT tõerääkimiseks mõeldud keel, ja kõik muud on surmapatus süüdi, kes seda muuks kasutavad.
Kuid kuna mina tegelen päris zombi ja romoti äärsete inimeste, kes sellese reaalsusesse jäänud, väljakaevamisega, et nad võiksid ometigi saata lootuse ellu jääda igaveseks, siis õnneks saan ainult muiata selles osas.
Sest minu vead kokku (mida Sa märkad ), Sinu ühe päeva elamise veaga on päris tühine seni kuni sa vähemalt poolt mu jutust kuulda pole suutnud veel alustuseks võtta.
Kuid jah, robotikindlam on mu tekst jah, kuid see juba omaette filosoofia ja teooria
Usud,et võid seda keelt kasutada, mille iganes rääkimiseks?
Ei või
See on AINULT tõerääkimiseks mõeldud keel, ja kõik muud on surmapatus süüdi, kes seda muuks kasutavad.
Kuid kuna mina tegelen päris zombi ja romoti äärsete inimeste, kes sellese reaalsusesse jäänud, väljakaevamisega, et nad võiksid ometigi saata lootuse ellu jääda igaveseks, siis õnneks saan ainult muiata selles osas.
Sest minu vead kokku (mida Sa märkad ), Sinu ühe päeva elamise veaga on päris tühine seni kuni sa vähemalt poolt mu jutust kuulda pole suutnud veel alustuseks võtta.
Kuid jah, robotikindlam on mu tekst jah, kuid see juba omaette filosoofia ja teooria
4 April 2016 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to Püha Antonius's comment.
Aga ikka jõudsid gramaatikani, nagu ette ennustades _: )
4 April 2016 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
No lase lase :D
4 April 2016 00:56
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
Kuid asjakohane teema tuli netis just...
see laul "Kus Sa oled... Minu elu... "
Märksõnad nagu siis A anarhia jopel.. füüsiline välimus, viisnurgad riietusel.. punane rätt ümber kaela... hiiliv ärisev... lihasööma ja tapa teema äriga... tundetu...arusaamad ja jutud kohe esimese minutiga. kuid annab hea tunnetuse mis vaimudelt ja kuidas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qaD99fiRRQ
see laul "Kus Sa oled... Minu elu... "
Märksõnad nagu siis A anarhia jopel.. füüsiline välimus, viisnurgad riietusel.. punane rätt ümber kaela... hiiliv ärisev... lihasööma ja tapa teema äriga... tundetu...arusaamad ja jutud kohe esimese minutiga. kuid annab hea tunnetuse mis vaimudelt ja kuidas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qaD99fiRRQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qaD99fiRRQ
4 April 2016 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
4 April 2016 00:32
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
See on selle pärast, et tema küsis "Tarkust" ja sai rohkem tarkust kui ükski teine mees, ning sellele lisaks veel teadmisi ka läbi Tarkusekeste keda tema haaremis va tuhat oli,
aga ta ei mõistnud ikkagi, et mis see on... kuigi oleks piisanud ka ühest... seega see mees arvas, et see rikkus ja võim, on see mida ta küsis, tegelikult aga nagu ta ise oma ema kirjutusi vaadates oleks pidanud aru saama.. Proverbs, Tarkusesõnad 8:24 ... et Tarkusekesed... olid ammu enne mehe loomist olemas, ja kelle abiga see Looja siis siin asju ehitas... ja naise võrku tõmbas .. aga ta andestab, sest elu on suurem kui Jumal
Jumalad ei loo ainult endast nõrgemaid
Armastuse Jumalanna
aga ta ei mõistnud ikkagi, et mis see on... kuigi oleks piisanud ka ühest... seega see mees arvas, et see rikkus ja võim, on see mida ta küsis, tegelikult aga nagu ta ise oma ema kirjutusi vaadates oleks pidanud aru saama.. Proverbs, Tarkusesõnad 8:24 ... et Tarkusekesed... olid ammu enne mehe loomist olemas, ja kelle abiga see Looja siis siin asju ehitas... ja naise võrku tõmbas .. aga ta andestab, sest elu on suurem kui Jumal
Jumalad ei loo ainult endast nõrgemaid
Armastuse Jumalanna
4 April 2016 00:27
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
.:.
Pühendatud, otse mu vanematele ja neile kes on Ühendatud, Otse Kontrollkeskusest....
Ei unustanud mittekedagi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSeuP56rMOc
Pühendatud, otse mu vanematele ja neile kes on Ühendatud, Otse Kontrollkeskusest....
Ei unustanud mittekedagi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSeuP56rMOc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSeuP56rMOc
4 April 2016 00:16
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
kui vesi oleks jões tasakaalus siis ta ei liiguks, kui puude sees kõik oleks paigal ja võrdne siis puu sureks kuid tegelikult on vaja eri prioteete, et juurtest vesi õigete osadeni jõuaks vajalikus järjekorras
4 April 2016 00:15
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
Tõesti usud, et maa on suur liivakast? Nu jah, rooma-greekalik hea vastutuseta filosoofia mis mugavalt lubab peksta ja süüa keda iganes ja siis ei saag isuurelt süüdistada ega probleeme likvideerida, sest siin poole arengulised sovivad eluga kannuda...
aga vanadel hingedel nendest kannuvatest robotitest ja nende tekitatud katkistest zombidest ja pimedatest hingedest on siiber... kui kaua võib
aga vanadel hingedel nendest kannuvatest robotitest ja nende tekitatud katkistest zombidest ja pimedatest hingedest on siiber... kui kaua võib
4 April 2016 00:12
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
naisi ei saa upitada
4 April 2016 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
ei ole üks.
ükski asi pole üks, kõik on üks. kõik on aga kõik pole vajalik hoida jäävalt
ükski asi pole üks, kõik on üks. kõik on aga kõik pole vajalik hoida jäävalt
4 April 2016 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
Kusjuures nii huumor ongi, kus siin greeka-rooma ajastu mehed nii väga proovivad seda arengupuuduliku filosoofiat arendada kus "Hea ja paha on tasakaalus" ja "mees ja naine on võrdne"
nagu halleluuja :D ... et jah, ära tabasid muidu eesmärgid sügavutti
kuid eks teeb paremini
nagu halleluuja :D ... et jah, ära tabasid muidu eesmärgid sügavutti
kuid eks teeb paremini
4 April 2016 00:08
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Ja see liha ja liha söömise näide siin on kindlasti adekvaatsemalt asjakohasem reaalsuse suhtes, kui seedeelundite bakterite tapmisest rääkimine siin vestluse alguses.
Ja Sulle ette ütlemiseks, kui eesriie on eemaldatud ja avalikuks saavad inimestele need Olendid kes te ja te tütarde seksuaal ja elu energiaid kes tarbib ja kes edasi müüb... siis sellised näited on elementaased millega Ülemkohtus koheselt suurem osa inimesi jääb kaotusesse,
deemonid veel vahe kohtu võivad teha kus erinevad advogaadid ja kohtunikud on oina ja kuke jms peadega, ja siis neid looma sööma asjaolusi tuuakse esile kohtus kus sind trahvides karistada püütakse, kuna sa polnud nõus ära andma oma perekonna järglaste hingi mingisuguse inimlauda jaoks, takerdasid suur kosmiliste firmade progressi ... vot siis.
Muidugi õnneks või õnnetuseks enamuste inimeste areng ei jõuagi sinamaani, et nad seda läbi tegema peaksid, aga need kes soovivad PÄRISELT õiglaseks, maailma osas saada, selliselt, et võtta endale õigus määrata õigust ja määrata seda mis on ebaõiglane... siis need arengud on tavalised. Kuid kõikidel kellel meeled vastu ei pea neile asjadele, nendel kustutatakse mälu või suunatakse haiglasse katkise ajuga, kui kustutust ei saa teha sest liialt suur hingeline erutus tekkis mis valu kesena mälestuse kirjutab füüsilisel tasandil keha alumiste aju energia väljadesse mis siia teadvusesse tagasi tulles alateadvusest need häirivad mälestused üles korjab ja mis omakorda, sügavamale minnes (enamus inimene omakorda valib neid pilte kustutamiseks alkoholi või muu vaimse kivistumise, emotsionaalse sulgumise) et sügavamale minnes need asjad täis filmina jooksma võivad hakata manifesteerides siin maises madalas vangla karjalooma reaalsuses kõrgemad arusaamad mis kogu sisse söödetud programmi "reaalsuse ühiskonnast" täeisti likvideerib ja siis inimene hullub ja kuna erinevad agendid on üle selle inimkasvatuse paigutatud kes kiirelt ja vaikselt teavad kuhu suunata milliseid hulle... siis kiiresti antakse kustutus ravimeid või sulgetakse päris ära kui kustutamatu on, ehk kui meeled nii sügava ühenduse muude ilmadega teevad, et inimene jääb päris ühendusse nende ilmadega (kuid samas ei saa aru sele maailma vajalikustest ja olukordadest)
Et jah.. eks igal mehel oma otsus.. kui nägijaks saada soovid... või nosi oma leiba vaikselt edasi.. ja proovi tibusammul areneda headuse poolele, lootes, et sinu kiirus sind ka piisava eludega kohale viib... voi et see uue elu garanteerib kui vajalikus mida uueaja robot ja kloonimis teadused asendada ei saa.. siis lase enesekindlalt edasi... kui aga soovid.. siis hakka näpuotsga uurima neid psühedeelikume...
http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x4ce5y_psychedelic-experience_iluminati/1#video=x3tgsjf
Ja Sulle ette ütlemiseks, kui eesriie on eemaldatud ja avalikuks saavad inimestele need Olendid kes te ja te tütarde seksuaal ja elu energiaid kes tarbib ja kes edasi müüb... siis sellised näited on elementaased millega Ülemkohtus koheselt suurem osa inimesi jääb kaotusesse,
deemonid veel vahe kohtu võivad teha kus erinevad advogaadid ja kohtunikud on oina ja kuke jms peadega, ja siis neid looma sööma asjaolusi tuuakse esile kohtus kus sind trahvides karistada püütakse, kuna sa polnud nõus ära andma oma perekonna järglaste hingi mingisuguse inimlauda jaoks, takerdasid suur kosmiliste firmade progressi ... vot siis.
Muidugi õnneks või õnnetuseks enamuste inimeste areng ei jõuagi sinamaani, et nad seda läbi tegema peaksid, aga need kes soovivad PÄRISELT õiglaseks, maailma osas saada, selliselt, et võtta endale õigus määrata õigust ja määrata seda mis on ebaõiglane... siis need arengud on tavalised. Kuid kõikidel kellel meeled vastu ei pea neile asjadele, nendel kustutatakse mälu või suunatakse haiglasse katkise ajuga, kui kustutust ei saa teha sest liialt suur hingeline erutus tekkis mis valu kesena mälestuse kirjutab füüsilisel tasandil keha alumiste aju energia väljadesse mis siia teadvusesse tagasi tulles alateadvusest need häirivad mälestused üles korjab ja mis omakorda, sügavamale minnes (enamus inimene omakorda valib neid pilte kustutamiseks alkoholi või muu vaimse kivistumise, emotsionaalse sulgumise) et sügavamale minnes need asjad täis filmina jooksma võivad hakata manifesteerides siin maises madalas vangla karjalooma reaalsuses kõrgemad arusaamad mis kogu sisse söödetud programmi "reaalsuse ühiskonnast" täeisti likvideerib ja siis inimene hullub ja kuna erinevad agendid on üle selle inimkasvatuse paigutatud kes kiirelt ja vaikselt teavad kuhu suunata milliseid hulle... siis kiiresti antakse kustutus ravimeid või sulgetakse päris ära kui kustutamatu on, ehk kui meeled nii sügava ühenduse muude ilmadega teevad, et inimene jääb päris ühendusse nende ilmadega (kuid samas ei saa aru sele maailma vajalikustest ja olukordadest)
Et jah.. eks igal mehel oma otsus.. kui nägijaks saada soovid... või nosi oma leiba vaikselt edasi.. ja proovi tibusammul areneda headuse poolele, lootes, et sinu kiirus sind ka piisava eludega kohale viib... voi et see uue elu garanteerib kui vajalikus mida uueaja robot ja kloonimis teadused asendada ei saa.. siis lase enesekindlalt edasi... kui aga soovid.. siis hakka näpuotsga uurima neid psühedeelikume...
http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x4ce5y_psychedelic-experience_iluminati/1#video=x3tgsjf
http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x4ce5y_psychedelic-experience_iluminati/1#video=x3tgsjf
4 April 2016 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Või nüüd on tüüpiline "Oi Oi minu last ei või"
et ma mõtlesin ükskõik mis liha aga mitte minu pere oma... Ja siis veel minu kassi ei voi.. ja minu koera... ja .. aga teiste oma suva. matsutage
et ma mõtlesin ükskõik mis liha aga mitte minu pere oma... Ja siis veel minu kassi ei voi.. ja minu koera... ja .. aga teiste oma suva. matsutage
3 April 2016 23:44
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Muidugi ma pean ette imestama korra veel, et üks asi mis on tänuväärne ja imestama panev, et mu väga lahtise kirjatryki osas, millel omad vead ja eesmärgid.. et Selles osas siiani kolmest inimesest mitte keegi ei ole kommenteerinud?
See on tõsiselt müstiline ja tõestab, et vähemalt robotitega ei räägi, sest nad ei suuda üle paari lauselise vea edasi arvutada lausete tähendust millele mugavalt andmebaasist tüüpvastuseid siis loopida,
seega mul on väga meeldiv seni olnud, ja tänud korra veel. Loodan, et see harjutus jätkub veel mõnda aega
See on tõsiselt müstiline ja tõestab, et vähemalt robotitega ei räägi, sest nad ei suuda üle paari lauselise vea edasi arvutada lausete tähendust millele mugavalt andmebaasist tüüpvastuseid siis loopida,
seega mul on väga meeldiv seni olnud, ja tänud korra veel. Loodan, et see harjutus jätkub veel mõnda aega
3 April 2016 23:39
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ja mis erilist siis tema mõtted tõid ? Mis filosoofiat Joodiku Poja lugu jagas?
Ja kui sa juba siin oma Hullu'de sugulaste nimedega jagad, kellel mis seos sinugaongi..? Et siis peaksid, ehk teadma, olema lugenud, et mis on siis see lahendus Peeteri Prinsiibi osas,
ma pole seda läbi töödanud, ega aega selleks väikeseks arusaamaks mis tundub olmea tehtud lipsu inimeste poolt lipsu inimeste orjade organiseerimiseks, vaimuvaeselt, ehk siis mitte keskendudes sellele mida inimLIIK ja loodus vajab, vaid nad keskenduvad kuidas panna inimesed tööle mille iganes heaks, nii et suva organisatsioonil oleks edukas ja edu välja pigistada inimestest seda mida mingil tulnuk orgnisatsioonil vaja on paremini kui neid trikitades kommidega korgemale positsioonile kus inimesed pakksude professorite või kurnatud orjadena edasi tiksuvad turvaliselt pensionini kuid sydames mitte org nist oolides.
Vahelduselks, oma hiilgava liha sööva ajuga, seleta siis paari sõnaga see kokkuvõte, lahendus, mida Raymond Hull koos Peeteriga oma elu märgatavamas töös tegi (mis iganes see "Loov kirjandus" oli ei pannud tähele... et loov aga MILLEKS loov?)
http://www.thevoiceslu.com/2015/06/the-peter-principle-the-cream-rises-until-it-sours/
Ja kui sa juba siin oma Hullu'de sugulaste nimedega jagad, kellel mis seos sinugaongi..? Et siis peaksid, ehk teadma, olema lugenud, et mis on siis see lahendus Peeteri Prinsiibi osas,
ma pole seda läbi töödanud, ega aega selleks väikeseks arusaamaks mis tundub olmea tehtud lipsu inimeste poolt lipsu inimeste orjade organiseerimiseks, vaimuvaeselt, ehk siis mitte keskendudes sellele mida inimLIIK ja loodus vajab, vaid nad keskenduvad kuidas panna inimesed tööle mille iganes heaks, nii et suva organisatsioonil oleks edukas ja edu välja pigistada inimestest seda mida mingil tulnuk orgnisatsioonil vaja on paremini kui neid trikitades kommidega korgemale positsioonile kus inimesed pakksude professorite või kurnatud orjadena edasi tiksuvad turvaliselt pensionini kuid sydames mitte org nist oolides.
Vahelduselks, oma hiilgava liha sööva ajuga, seleta siis paari sõnaga see kokkuvõte, lahendus, mida Raymond Hull koos Peeteriga oma elu märgatavamas töös tegi (mis iganes see "Loov kirjandus" oli ei pannud tähele... et loov aga MILLEKS loov?)
http://www.thevoiceslu.com/2015/06/the-peter-principle-the-cream-rises-until-it-sours/
http://www.thevoiceslu.com/2015/06/the-peter-principle-the-cream-rises-until-it-sours/
3 April 2016 23:35
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Sulle teadmiseks, inimeste Perenimed ongi, nende isiksuse tähendusega, olgu nad õunapuud või puusepad
3 April 2016 22:46
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Sinu last võib süüa, millisele loomale oma lapse annaksid või monele mu tuttavale neegrile kes inglismaal selgitasid, et laspe söömine nomraalne, sest liha on liha, et ei tasu ola peps ja ette kujutada, et inimeste väärtus midagi muud. Et see volts, ytlesid.
Et millisest kehaosast oma last soovitad, moistlikuse piires ?
Et millisest kehaosast oma last soovitad, moistlikuse piires ?
3 April 2016 22:43
Margus Meigo commented on Kaupo Raam's post.
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Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Jah, sest mäletseja aju ei ole loodud seedima erinevaid marju, seemneid, pähtleid, kuivikuid ja häda olukorras muud ajutiselt kui tarvis.
Mis arvad, et kõikidel muudel liikidel kes rohtu söövad on magu nagu lehmal v.
See nii naljkas, kui inimesed selliste tasemel asjadega lagedale tulevad, eriti veel targad ja muidu mõistlikud inimesed, et " 1) meil on magu teistsugune kui lehmal 2) lehm on heina toitlane 3) inimesed ei saa heina süüa nagu lehmad 4) seega inimestel õigus kõiki loomi piinata, tappa, mõrvata, raipeid süüa ja oma lastele ka valetada, et see neile kasulik on"
On ikka loogika järjestus...
et nagu lehma maoga loomad oleks ainukesed... ja nagu elementaarset ei suudeta aru saada, et füüsiline heaolu, ja tervis paraneb inimestel kes vajalike taimi söövad ja MITTE MIDAGI ei kaota inimene tervise, tarkuse ega energia osas kui ta raipe söömise järgi jätab. Näitajad aga alati enamusel paranevad.
Muidugi on ajutised erinevused inimestel, kellel kehas olevad bakterid mis lihaga harjunud, surema hakkavad ja nõudma, aju suunama lihale... nende bakterite suremisel ka tuleb toxiine suure tõenäosusega mis keha ajutiselt nõrgestab ja pea sassi ajab... aga kui keha uuesti normaalsusele on taastunud, seemneid ja puuvilju sööma hakanud, siis peaks mõistus ka koju tulema ja nii lihtsate asjade arusaamisega, nagu kuidas kogu maailma sõjakriisid ja poliitilne ja hariduslik olukord lahendada, enam ei jännata.
Kuna aga lihasööjad nagu tolgused lahenduste ees oma puuduliku loogikaga koostöös oma sõlktuvustega, erinevate inimest mitte toetavate olenditega.. osad teadlikult lootusetusest ,osad teadlikult sest pettunud inimrassis (nagu N. Liit) ja osad arulagedusest või hirmust ja teadmatusest...
aga on vaja hakata inimliigile kasulikult elama, sest sellist liiki EI ole vaja alles jätta nagu praegu
Mis arvad, et kõikidel muudel liikidel kes rohtu söövad on magu nagu lehmal v.
See nii naljkas, kui inimesed selliste tasemel asjadega lagedale tulevad, eriti veel targad ja muidu mõistlikud inimesed, et " 1) meil on magu teistsugune kui lehmal 2) lehm on heina toitlane 3) inimesed ei saa heina süüa nagu lehmad 4) seega inimestel õigus kõiki loomi piinata, tappa, mõrvata, raipeid süüa ja oma lastele ka valetada, et see neile kasulik on"
On ikka loogika järjestus...
et nagu lehma maoga loomad oleks ainukesed... ja nagu elementaarset ei suudeta aru saada, et füüsiline heaolu, ja tervis paraneb inimestel kes vajalike taimi söövad ja MITTE MIDAGI ei kaota inimene tervise, tarkuse ega energia osas kui ta raipe söömise järgi jätab. Näitajad aga alati enamusel paranevad.
Muidugi on ajutised erinevused inimestel, kellel kehas olevad bakterid mis lihaga harjunud, surema hakkavad ja nõudma, aju suunama lihale... nende bakterite suremisel ka tuleb toxiine suure tõenäosusega mis keha ajutiselt nõrgestab ja pea sassi ajab... aga kui keha uuesti normaalsusele on taastunud, seemneid ja puuvilju sööma hakanud, siis peaks mõistus ka koju tulema ja nii lihtsate asjade arusaamisega, nagu kuidas kogu maailma sõjakriisid ja poliitilne ja hariduslik olukord lahendada, enam ei jännata.
Kuna aga lihasööjad nagu tolgused lahenduste ees oma puuduliku loogikaga koostöös oma sõlktuvustega, erinevate inimest mitte toetavate olenditega.. osad teadlikult lootusetusest ,osad teadlikult sest pettunud inimrassis (nagu N. Liit) ja osad arulagedusest või hirmust ja teadmatusest...
aga on vaja hakata inimliigile kasulikult elama, sest sellist liiki EI ole vaja alles jätta nagu praegu
3 April 2016 21:24
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kaine(m) oled siis kui hakkad teistel KEELAMA joomist, ARU SAADES, mida see inimliigile kaasa toob.
3 April 2016 21:03
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ei KAINE Sa küll ei ole, alkoholist oled eemal lihtalt. Muidu arvatvasti ei suudaks siin isegi vastu rääkida.
KUi ma madalalubaline, siis mõtle kui häbi sinul, lastes ennast sellisese tasemesse minuga võrreldes panna?
Kergeusklik ikka oled.. arvad, et kui alakoholi ei joo, et siis mõistus kaine v ?
Ja selle postitusega, kui Sa ei mõista, et promod, siis...
KUi ma madalalubaline, siis mõtle kui häbi sinul, lastes ennast sellisese tasemesse minuga võrreldes panna?
Kergeusklik ikka oled.. arvad, et kui alakoholi ei joo, et siis mõistus kaine v ?
Ja selle postitusega, kui Sa ei mõista, et promod, siis...
3 April 2016 21:03
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Just, sinust saab, madalamatele bakteriltele toit, sest eriti väärt see toit pole mida maha jätad, saad veel enne surma näha ka mida Sust oleks võinud saada, ja siis saad aru, et oleks võinud liituda nendega, kes ei sure, kunagi. Nagu normaalsed inimesed.
Mis osa ma siis usust ei saanud aru? Või oled sa luteri ajupestud, et usud ainult zombit jõigustavaid arusaame?
Kui sa ise isegi ei tea, et taimetoit me algne ja meile mõeldud toit on, siis mis tasemes me vestelda saame üldse? Alles ilma sündinud lapse tasemes.
Alkoholi promosid ju oma lehel, või räägid siis alkoholi vastu nüüd? Eks mine proovi alkoholi vastast juttu Odini vaimuga nakatatunule rääkida, vaata mida ütlevad Sulle
Mis osa ma siis usust ei saanud aru? Või oled sa luteri ajupestud, et usud ainult zombit jõigustavaid arusaame?
Kui sa ise isegi ei tea, et taimetoit me algne ja meile mõeldud toit on, siis mis tasemes me vestelda saame üldse? Alles ilma sündinud lapse tasemes.
Alkoholi promosid ju oma lehel, või räägid siis alkoholi vastu nüüd? Eks mine proovi alkoholi vastast juttu Odini vaimuga nakatatunule rääkida, vaata mida ütlevad Sulle
3 April 2016 20:55
Margus Meigo replied to Püha Antonius's comment.
Nüüd sinu arusaam, ja greeka-rooma loogika on muidugi, et kuna taimedel KA valus on... et siis lisaks taimedele, VEEL suuremat ja nähtavat valu valmistad suvalt juurde VEEL tervele suurele hulgale liikidele, keda üldse EI ole vaja , MITTE ÜHEKSKI asjaks (mõrvata ja PIINATA), va. teatud maagiate liigiks aegajalt,
et kui teed ühele haiget, siis suvalt, tee edasi teistele ka ?
Ja leia samasugune uudis, seemnete ja puuviljade kohta, kelle puu on enda küljest lahti lasknud.
et kui teed ühele haiget, siis suvalt, tee edasi teistele ka ?
Ja leia samasugune uudis, seemnete ja puuviljade kohta, kelle puu on enda küljest lahti lasknud.
3 April 2016 19:56
Margus Meigo replied to Püha Antonius's comment.
See on täitsa õige info mis Sa räägid, Huvitav, et sellist asja peab Sinu kaudu tulema... ikka oled Püha küll näe:p
Ma aga küsisin seemnete ja puuviljade kohta.
Ma aga küsisin seemnete ja puuviljade kohta.
3 April 2016 19:54
Margus Meigo replied to Püha Antonius's comment.
Muidugi, mitte IGA rohutaim, on ka väga kurjasi taime, keda isegi puutuma ei peaks, aga see selleks.
3 April 2016 19:47
Margus Meigo replied to Püha Antonius's comment.
Meil aga teadaolevad taimed, mida võttes, saad enda meele seisundi ajutiselt, tasemele, kus saad tunnetada loomi ja nendega suhelda, ka taimedega...
Rohi on praeguseks öelnud, et nad on okey kui neid süüakse aga mis on valu ja nukrust tekitav, mis neile EI meeldi, kui neid lihtsalt "ilu" jaoks niidetakse või neile kütust peale kallatakse, siis nad ei saa oma armastust meile kuidagi tagasi anda ja tunnevad ennast raisatuna
Rohi on praeguseks öelnud, et nad on okey kui neid süüakse aga mis on valu ja nukrust tekitav, mis neile EI meeldi, kui neid lihtsalt "ilu" jaoks niidetakse või neile kütust peale kallatakse, siis nad ei saa oma armastust meile kuidagi tagasi anda ja tunnevad ennast raisatuna
3 April 2016 19:47
Margus Meigo replied to Püha Antonius's comment.
Kuidas Sina tead, et taimed valu tunnevad ja millist valu nad siis lastest ja vanematest eemaldades tunnevad, kas sellist raskeloomulist, igale lollile silmaga nähtavat, kus neil pisarad voolavad nagu loomadel?
Või on vaja selleks taimetoidulist taimetarka või kõrgemat olendit, et nende valu osata Sulle selgitada?
ainult samm, sammult ennast parandades, saad sa ennast arendada, mitte käega kõigile lüües.
Kuid selgita siis, kui sa väidad, mitte ei naljata siin, kus on need kirjutised ja uuringud, mis räägivad, et õunad, puuviljad ja seemned tunnevad valu
ja selle valu lõpetamiseks, nad nõuavad, et neid enam ei tarbita?
Looma valu nukruse tarbeks tasub sul ainult natukene googledada ja tuhandeid uuringuid lugeda, või lihtsalt olla südamega inimene ja maal, farmis elada... siis näed ise, nagu ma ise olen lehma ja koera pisaraid pühkinud.
Muidugi Sina arvad, et koera söömine Korealaste poolt on paha tegu võrreldes püha lehma söömisega? Eks vaata kuidas miljard indialast sellega nõus on...
Või on vaja selleks taimetoidulist taimetarka või kõrgemat olendit, et nende valu osata Sulle selgitada?
ainult samm, sammult ennast parandades, saad sa ennast arendada, mitte käega kõigile lüües.
Kuid selgita siis, kui sa väidad, mitte ei naljata siin, kus on need kirjutised ja uuringud, mis räägivad, et õunad, puuviljad ja seemned tunnevad valu
ja selle valu lõpetamiseks, nad nõuavad, et neid enam ei tarbita?
Looma valu nukruse tarbeks tasub sul ainult natukene googledada ja tuhandeid uuringuid lugeda, või lihtsalt olla südamega inimene ja maal, farmis elada... siis näed ise, nagu ma ise olen lehma ja koera pisaraid pühkinud.
Muidugi Sina arvad, et koera söömine Korealaste poolt on paha tegu võrreldes püha lehma söömisega? Eks vaata kuidas miljard indialast sellega nõus on...
3 April 2016 19:45
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kristlus muide on Matriarhaatlik, Taimetoiduline ja Laste kõrget vaimu inimkonnale selgitav, tuleb natukene greeka-rooma-pentagrammi-viikinglaste-vaimuvaevatud Luteri taguotsast oma pea välja tõmmata, ja hakata reaalselt mõtlema ja tunnetama millega ja miks on tegu
Siiani pole sellel planeedil mitte ühtegi teooriat, filosooofiat, relgiooni, usku, teadmist ega teost tehtud mis inim väärtuse VEEL kõrgemale ja võimsamale positisioonile paneks kui Kristlus, kui sellest aru saad. Siis saad ka aru, miks muud galaktika olendid, siin kurja vaeva näevad, et vastupidist tõestada. Tuleb aru saada, miks nad kirjeldasid neid tegusi ja milliseks arusaamaks need mäeldud olid... ja arusaada tuleb ka, mis kõikide tegelaste lihasöömised eraldi välja toodud oli.. ja eraldi kõrgusesse toodud taimetoidu väärtus ja alkoholi vabadus.
Ei, vein ka ei ole lubatud. Pole mõtet isegi hakata "Aga jeesus tegi veini..." või "aga lubati ju süüa..." EI ! Kohe eos lõpeta vale arusaam, ja saa algusest saati õigesti aru, ja siis selle arusaama kaudu loe,seni kuni veel võimalus antud on, oma südant naise südame läbi liita, ...seni kuni aga liha sööd.. suht raske sind teise maailma edasi transportida peale surma... mis muidugi võib ka päris surmaks osutada neile, kes jonni pärast jätkavad raipe söömist.
Jah, on osasi liike, kes tulnarite poolt pantud lihasööjate ja inimeste segust kokku, .. aga ka nemad hakkavad sööma heina, kui asjast aru saama hakkavad, sest olgugi, et looma vaimu segu, siis neil on kingitud inimese keha, mida saab SELLE ajuga mis meile antud, muuta, ja ümber seadistada, kui järjepidev olla ja arvata, et see väärt tegevus uute eludes jätkamiseks, isegi hambad saab uued kasvatada õigete mineraalide ja mõtte koostööl, küsi siberi shamaanidelt... kui kommunistid veel mõne mingi projekti tarbes alles on jätnud...
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Siiani pole sellel planeedil mitte ühtegi teooriat, filosooofiat, relgiooni, usku, teadmist ega teost tehtud mis inim väärtuse VEEL kõrgemale ja võimsamale positisioonile paneks kui Kristlus, kui sellest aru saad. Siis saad ka aru, miks muud galaktika olendid, siin kurja vaeva näevad, et vastupidist tõestada. Tuleb aru saada, miks nad kirjeldasid neid tegusi ja milliseks arusaamaks need mäeldud olid... ja arusaada tuleb ka, mis kõikide tegelaste lihasöömised eraldi välja toodud oli.. ja eraldi kõrgusesse toodud taimetoidu väärtus ja alkoholi vabadus.
Ei, vein ka ei ole lubatud. Pole mõtet isegi hakata "Aga jeesus tegi veini..." või "aga lubati ju süüa..." EI ! Kohe eos lõpeta vale arusaam, ja saa algusest saati õigesti aru, ja siis selle arusaama kaudu loe,seni kuni veel võimalus antud on, oma südant naise südame läbi liita, ...seni kuni aga liha sööd.. suht raske sind teise maailma edasi transportida peale surma... mis muidugi võib ka päris surmaks osutada neile, kes jonni pärast jätkavad raipe söömist.
Jah, on osasi liike, kes tulnarite poolt pantud lihasööjate ja inimeste segust kokku, .. aga ka nemad hakkavad sööma heina, kui asjast aru saama hakkavad, sest olgugi, et looma vaimu segu, siis neil on kingitud inimese keha, mida saab SELLE ajuga mis meile antud, muuta, ja ümber seadistada, kui järjepidev olla ja arvata, et see väärt tegevus uute eludes jätkamiseks, isegi hambad saab uued kasvatada õigete mineraalide ja mõtte koostööl, küsi siberi shamaanidelt... kui kommunistid veel mõne mingi projekti tarbes alles on jätnud...
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3 April 2016 19:39
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kui Sul õigus, saad tasuta tööjõudu omale
3 April 2016 18:24
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kui palju maksad, võin tulla Su enda aiamaad päevotsa kaevata tuleval suvel kui aega on, 10eur tund, ja kui õhtuni ei jaksa, siis maksan kõik raha tagasi, nõus ?
3 April 2016 18:22
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
See saab revolutsiooniline olema
3 April 2016 18:21
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Siis kui teistega mitte arvestajad sohu viid, siis ongi see loodusega arvestatav.
Mu perel ka nii rabad kui sood ootavad,
ja sa oota siis kui me resursiga tuleme, sest see plaan kindel meil, võtta valikuline punt raipesööjaid, neile anda valgustavaid tehnoloogiaid metsas ja siis peale seda lasta ta liha keskele , ning ka seda filmi võtta mis juttu nad siis räägivad
Mu perel ka nii rabad kui sood ootavad,
ja sa oota siis kui me resursiga tuleme, sest see plaan kindel meil, võtta valikuline punt raipesööjaid, neile anda valgustavaid tehnoloogiaid metsas ja siis peale seda lasta ta liha keskele , ning ka seda filmi võtta mis juttu nad siis räägivad
3 April 2016 18:20
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ei, ta ei kasuta ÜHTEGI keemia toidu lisandit. ega muud trikki.
Olin ise ta pool tööl suvel, tean ise oam silmaga.
Olin ise ta pool tööl suvel, tean ise oam silmaga.
3 April 2016 18:17
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Jällegi, ära kasuta alaarenenud Greeka arusaame siin, kui sa aru ei saa mis annab jõudu ja kuidas siis milleks ennast häbistada?
Mine Tarmo Jaanisk jutule raplas, ta on Eesti suurima mahemesila omanik, tõstab käsitsi mesitarusi ja füüsilisi asju päevas TONNIDES käsitsi, peale ja maha... hommikul vara kuni ühtul hiljani ning siis veel suudab samal ajal firmat juhtida ja pere kasvatada, Jumala arusaam on tal ka elementaarne,
Tema on NELJANDAT põlve taimetoidu perest, ja kõik ta pere on raske töö ja targa mõistusega olnud, ema oli kuulus prohvet kelle käsikirjad smuugeldas marju lauristin ja veel osad inimesed inglismaale 90ndatel..
et mine haugu temaga ja proovi tööga jaksu pidada, vaata kas siis tekib arusaam midagi muud?
Ja ta ei ole zombi väsinud õhtuti kes teleka ette viskab pahurana lösakile , et tal "raske päev oli..."
kuigi ta päevad kaks korda pikemad tihti kui enamus füüsilise töö tegijatel
Jah, ja ka mina, täiesti vaalt võin päevotsa maad kaevata ja muud tööd teha, ma ikkagi maa juurtega
Mine Tarmo Jaanisk jutule raplas, ta on Eesti suurima mahemesila omanik, tõstab käsitsi mesitarusi ja füüsilisi asju päevas TONNIDES käsitsi, peale ja maha... hommikul vara kuni ühtul hiljani ning siis veel suudab samal ajal firmat juhtida ja pere kasvatada, Jumala arusaam on tal ka elementaarne,
Tema on NELJANDAT põlve taimetoidu perest, ja kõik ta pere on raske töö ja targa mõistusega olnud, ema oli kuulus prohvet kelle käsikirjad smuugeldas marju lauristin ja veel osad inimesed inglismaale 90ndatel..
et mine haugu temaga ja proovi tööga jaksu pidada, vaata kas siis tekib arusaam midagi muud?
Ja ta ei ole zombi väsinud õhtuti kes teleka ette viskab pahurana lösakile , et tal "raske päev oli..."
kuigi ta päevad kaks korda pikemad tihti kui enamus füüsilise töö tegijatel
Jah, ja ka mina, täiesti vaalt võin päevotsa maad kaevata ja muud tööd teha, ma ikkagi maa juurtega
3 April 2016 18:15
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
loodus toimib paremini koostöös ja sõpruses, mitte greka põhises õpetuses, et "tugevam jääb ellu"
ega ikka ei jää küll, teiste liikidega mitte arvestaja ellu...
tugevam on ikka see, kes kõige enam teiste likide heaoluga arvestab... ja tõsi ta on... ajutistel aegadel, teistega mitte arvestajad, hetkeliselt fokuseeritud jõuga ilma elus pikemalt mõtlemata, nad saavad odaga selle ühe või pundi häid tapetud... kes neid kritiseerivad või kes nende rynnakuid ja mõrvaelu paljastavad, kuid ajalugu ei unusta midagi.. ja need asjad saavad uute liitlastega selgeks kunagi.. ja siis juba ette ära nendel takistused ise endale loodud... samal ajal, kui hea surma surnud inimesed, võivad pigemeeldada,et kui nad loodusele vajalikud olid, siis nende teadvus ja vaim kantakse uute kehasse üle, kergelt..sest väärtus on see mis on väärtuslik, see kes haigeid organisme terveks ravida proovib ja suudab ning kes ebavajalike märkida ja piirata oskavad või julgevad
ega ikka ei jää küll, teiste liikidega mitte arvestaja ellu...
tugevam on ikka see, kes kõige enam teiste likide heaoluga arvestab... ja tõsi ta on... ajutistel aegadel, teistega mitte arvestajad, hetkeliselt fokuseeritud jõuga ilma elus pikemalt mõtlemata, nad saavad odaga selle ühe või pundi häid tapetud... kes neid kritiseerivad või kes nende rynnakuid ja mõrvaelu paljastavad, kuid ajalugu ei unusta midagi.. ja need asjad saavad uute liitlastega selgeks kunagi.. ja siis juba ette ära nendel takistused ise endale loodud... samal ajal, kui hea surma surnud inimesed, võivad pigemeeldada,et kui nad loodusele vajalikud olid, siis nende teadvus ja vaim kantakse uute kehasse üle, kergelt..sest väärtus on see mis on väärtuslik, see kes haigeid organisme terveks ravida proovib ja suudab ning kes ebavajalike märkida ja piirata oskavad või julgevad
3 April 2016 18:07
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Jah, sest kui sa oled taimse mõtlemise peal, siis Sa ei mõtle kuidas laipadest üle joostes ennast ette saada, vaid eelkõige mõtled kuidas kogu lodusele ja sinu ümbruskonnale on parem, et kogu lodus säiliks
3 April 2016 18:04
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Saada mulle oma päris kontakt postkasti, Sina ka Raimond kui julged, mille kaudu kindlalt kätte saaks,
3 April 2016 18:02
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Sobib, hoian teid siis listis.
Wau, see oli lihtsam kui ma arvasin.
KOhe kui resursid vajalikud olemas, siis loomulikult. Kui Sul resursid enne olemas peaks olema, siis võid ka ise rahastada, aga seni siis ootame kohe kui saame ja kindla peale saame selle resursi kokku varem või veelgi varem
Wau, see oli lihtsam kui ma arvasin.
KOhe kui resursid vajalikud olemas, siis loomulikult. Kui Sul resursid enne olemas peaks olema, siis võid ka ise rahastada, aga seni siis ootame kohe kui saame ja kindla peale saame selle resursi kokku varem või veelgi varem
3 April 2016 18:01
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Ma ootan avali sui neid inimesi, saaks pundi kokku 10 või nii, kes oleks nõus, et söövad siis ainult lihasi, rikkalik vaheldusrikas menüü ainult: jänese, lehma, konna... mille iganes lihadega... ja vett...
Ja siis teine grupp sööb ainult 3-4 sorti seemneid veega...
ja kolmas grupp 3-4 sorti juurvilju veega....
ja neljas 3-4 sorti puuvilju veega...
ja siis veel üks, kes sööb lihtsalt leiba ja vett...
ja siis mõni kes julgeb ehk ainult ühte tema valitud liha versiooni süüa ilma taimsete lisadeta...
ja siis hemaeelega vilmiks kuidas need kümme üksteisejärel ära koolama hakkavad
nagu prantsuse kuningas, surma saatis suure hulga vange ükskord, andes neile ainult liha söögiks...
ja siis las arstid möödavad tulemusi...
seda peab aga tegema TV eetrist eemal, ehk interneti eetris, algselt, sest telejaam ei tahaks kellegi surma oma hingele võtta, aga siis pärast kui esimesed juba ära surnud on, siis võib videod ka telejaamale edastada.
Ja siis teine grupp sööb ainult 3-4 sorti seemneid veega...
ja kolmas grupp 3-4 sorti juurvilju veega....
ja neljas 3-4 sorti puuvilju veega...
ja siis veel üks, kes sööb lihtsalt leiba ja vett...
ja siis mõni kes julgeb ehk ainult ühte tema valitud liha versiooni süüa ilma taimsete lisadeta...
ja siis hemaeelega vilmiks kuidas need kümme üksteisejärel ära koolama hakkavad
nagu prantsuse kuningas, surma saatis suure hulga vange ükskord, andes neile ainult liha söögiks...
ja siis las arstid möödavad tulemusi...
seda peab aga tegema TV eetrist eemal, ehk interneti eetris, algselt, sest telejaam ei tahaks kellegi surma oma hingele võtta, aga siis pärast kui esimesed juba ära surnud on, siis võib videod ka telejaamale edastada.
3 April 2016 17:59
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Mõtle loogiliselt.... üks toiduaine tapab su ära kui ainult seda sööd... ja teine ... teebsu tervise tervemaks ja mõistuse selgemaks....
hmm... raske valik, kumb on õigem ?
hmm... raske valik, kumb on õigem ?
3 April 2016 17:53
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Sina võid muidugi heina närida, ja sind saab ka panna heina närima kui vaja, selleks olemas tehnoloogiad (ka neegritel, kui vaatad paar videot alla ühe neegri preestri videot...) kuid meie siin sööme VÄGA mitmekülgset toitu,
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ja aru sa vist ikka veel ei julge saada, et Su liha, TAPAKS sind vähem kui kuu ajaga ära, kui sa selle mürgiste kõrvalmõjude eemaldamiseks, lisaks taimi ei tarbiks, kes sind elus hoiavad'?
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ja aru sa vist ikka veel ei julge saada, et Su liha, TAPAKS sind vähem kui kuu ajaga ära, kui sa selle mürgiste kõrvalmõjude eemaldamiseks, lisaks taimi ei tarbiks, kes sind elus hoiavad'?
3 April 2016 17:53
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
kuidas Sa nii puuduliku loogikaga üldse ei häbene avalikuse ette tulla? Loomade jaoks, kes KASUTAVAD ROHKEM PÕLLUMAAD , Neile kasvatatava toidu ja energia näol, kui kunagi ükski inimene süüa suudaks... et neid loomi, kes taimede mõjul kasvanud on, ja kelle lihast , ainult need samad taimsed energiad MIINUS see mis tema elus olekus vaja läks me kätte saame... ja sa suudad ette kujutada, et nagu matemaatiliselt, oleks odavam LOOMADE läbi süüa toimi, neid loomi veel hoida piinades... kui taimi OTSE süüa?
Liha toit on VÄGA limiteeritud ja üksluine, madala energiaga ja vähe andev võrreldes järjepidava selle toiduga MIS ON LOODUD inimese jaoks, aegade algusest saati,
Kuid me ei suru Sinu alleshoidmist viisnurk pentagram, see mida need "jehoovakad" räägivad muide KA saab olema, kuid see tähendab õnneks, et teid ei ole siis olemas enam, .. lihtsalt praegu ainuke ajutine mure on, kuidas lõplikult likvideerida kõik ebamoraalsed ja lihasööjad ja tulnukad me liigi seast, võimalikult vähe enda liigile viga tehes.
Liha toit on VÄGA limiteeritud ja üksluine, madala energiaga ja vähe andev võrreldes järjepidava selle toiduga MIS ON LOODUD inimese jaoks, aegade algusest saati,
Kuid me ei suru Sinu alleshoidmist viisnurk pentagram, see mida need "jehoovakad" räägivad muide KA saab olema, kuid see tähendab õnneks, et teid ei ole siis olemas enam, .. lihtsalt praegu ainuke ajutine mure on, kuidas lõplikult likvideerida kõik ebamoraalsed ja lihasööjad ja tulnukad me liigi seast, võimalikult vähe enda liigile viga tehes.
3 April 2016 17:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Selgita sis mulle, kes on "NATSIONAALSOTSIALIST " ja mis muu termini alla ta ennast mahutama oleks pidanud nende piiragute all, mis kelleliselt ja filosoofiliselt tol ajal võimalikud olid ?
Kas nad olid sotsalistid, liberaalid kes pooldasid perversusi, joominguid, naiste alavääristamist ja inimeste lambana hoidmist?
Kas nad olid sotalistid, liberastid, homo pooldajad kes toetavad raipe söömist ja loomade retsimist piinamist, ?
Kas ta oli madala teadvusega olendite pooldaja kes olid juhmakad või said nad aru ,et see valu mida me loomadele ja lodusele teeme, tuleb meile lastelastele peagi tagasi?
Kas nad olid sotsalistid, liberaalid kes pooldasid perversusi, joominguid, naiste alavääristamist ja inimeste lambana hoidmist?
Kas nad olid sotalistid, liberastid, homo pooldajad kes toetavad raipe söömist ja loomade retsimist piinamist, ?
Kas ta oli madala teadvusega olendite pooldaja kes olid juhmakad või said nad aru ,et see valu mida me loomadele ja lodusele teeme, tuleb meile lastelastele peagi tagasi?
3 April 2016 17:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu näed siis millised arusaamad Sinul on : )
3 April 2016 17:24
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kes oled? Vaatame Sinu postitusi vimaseid, ja saame kohe aru:
"Sexy girl dance fails" on postitus kus siis irvitatakse naiste äpardumiste üle... "siis oli jumala teotuse postitus startrekist (vist).." ..
siis oli sadomaso porno postius kus "muidu sa vait ei oska olla kui naine sulle tussi näkku surub" (arvatvasti samamoodi käitud ka naistega oma fantaasias, et neid vait hoida, ei imestaks kui suhu keppimise pooldaja ka oled),
siis oli alkohli promomise postitus kus soovitad niigi lollipeaga alkoholile raisatud raha eest veel ennast karistada ja see solk endale sisse keerata mis on TEADA, et kahjustab aju, arusaame ja viisakusnorme, ja siis oli lõpetuseks nali sul "Mis vahe on prostiduudil ja sääsel? Sääsk lõpetab imemise kui sa teda labakäega lööd" ...
siis läks süda pahaks ja edasi ei tahtnud lugeda...
et mida nende postituste põhjal võiks arvata sinust?
Et kes oled vaevatud hing?
Õnneks postitad jumalast palju.. kuigi pilkavalt.. aga siiski... näha on, et positivsuse suunaga, ehk sis otsid abi ja päästeteed.,. jasee on hea
Juhuks, kui eriti head järeldust ei tulnud kasutades "hinda pud tema viljade järgi" ... siis ole hea tutvusta ennast ise
"Sexy girl dance fails" on postitus kus siis irvitatakse naiste äpardumiste üle... "siis oli jumala teotuse postitus startrekist (vist).." ..
siis oli sadomaso porno postius kus "muidu sa vait ei oska olla kui naine sulle tussi näkku surub" (arvatvasti samamoodi käitud ka naistega oma fantaasias, et neid vait hoida, ei imestaks kui suhu keppimise pooldaja ka oled),
siis oli alkohli promomise postitus kus soovitad niigi lollipeaga alkoholile raisatud raha eest veel ennast karistada ja see solk endale sisse keerata mis on TEADA, et kahjustab aju, arusaame ja viisakusnorme, ja siis oli lõpetuseks nali sul "Mis vahe on prostiduudil ja sääsel? Sääsk lõpetab imemise kui sa teda labakäega lööd" ...
siis läks süda pahaks ja edasi ei tahtnud lugeda...
et mida nende postituste põhjal võiks arvata sinust?
Et kes oled vaevatud hing?
Õnneks postitad jumalast palju.. kuigi pilkavalt.. aga siiski... näha on, et positivsuse suunaga, ehk sis otsid abi ja päästeteed.,. jasee on hea
Juhuks, kui eriti head järeldust ei tulnud kasutades "hinda pud tema viljade järgi" ... siis ole hea tutvusta ennast ise
3 April 2016 17:23
Margus Meigo commented on Raimond Hull Bibikov's photo.
Kurb, kui arengutasemed planeedil lubatakse eksiteerida ,kes seda naljakas peavad
õnneks uue laine eugeenikaga se viga parandatakse
õnneks uue laine eugeenikaga se viga parandatakse
3 April 2016 17:20
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Et siis see resurss, raha ja taimede kogus, mida võiks inimesed süüa muul taimsel kujul, mite aint nisu.. Naerist nagu me eelmised 5000 aastat elasime jms,
nüüd lihatoidulisena me siin suutnud rigi maha parseldada paarisaja aastaga suht...
et see kogus taimi, mis siis ruutmeetri kuludega on MAAPINNA OSAS (loom + kasvatus ala loomadel + maapind + transpordiala nende teenindamiseks + vesi + vajalikud teadused viimase väja pigistamiseks ja inimeste ajupesuks jne, kuigi viimase võid arvutusest välja jätta, see ülepea oleks nagunii) .. et võtad sele kokku ... tava looma kulu... kui palju nad taimi ja energiat kulutavad inimeste tarbeks...
ja siis vaatad kui suure hulga erinevaid taimi saaks sellekst hulgast inimestele
nüüd lihatoidulisena me siin suutnud rigi maha parseldada paarisaja aastaga suht...
et see kogus taimi, mis siis ruutmeetri kuludega on MAAPINNA OSAS (loom + kasvatus ala loomadel + maapind + transpordiala nende teenindamiseks + vesi + vajalikud teadused viimase väja pigistamiseks ja inimeste ajupesuks jne, kuigi viimase võid arvutusest välja jätta, see ülepea oleks nagunii) .. et võtad sele kokku ... tava looma kulu... kui palju nad taimi ja energiat kulutavad inimeste tarbeks...
ja siis vaatad kui suure hulga erinevaid taimi saaks sellekst hulgast inimestele
3 April 2016 17:13
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kuidas Sul endiselt jätkub jultumust teisi kääbikuteks nimetada, ise aga ei oska arusaadagi, mis moodi lomad üles kasvavad, kas sa tead mõnda inimest, kes suudaks ROHKEM süüa ära taimset toitu, kui SEE hulk lihaloomi, mida ühe haige lihasööja sõbi meelenaudingute tarvis maha notitakse ja retsitakse ?
3 April 2016 17:10
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ära räägi nii idiootset jutu, sa solvad enda ja lugeja reptiili aju sellega. Enne ku isa midagi siia vastuseks ropsid, siis mõtle ka natukene, OMA robotliku, greeka hariduse ülistatud LOOGILIST aju sutsu eks...
Väga hästi teadlik kuidas taimi kasvatatakse, kuidas neid keemiliselt ja looduslikult kasvatatakse, ja mitte ühegi kõige vigasema valemi põhjal ka, ei tule siit välja tõestus, et siis kui taimi rohkem sööd siis tapad rohkem loomi.
Ole nüüd, enda allesjäänud aju austuseks hea mees (oled ikka mees eks?)
Tee väike paarileheline, või veel lühem tõestus, arvutus, uuring, joonistus kui muuks suuteline pole, KUIDAS Sinu ettekujutluses, taimede söömine (võta siis arvesse, et kõik taimetoitlased on arulagedamad kes ainult hiinlaste moodi maad rüvetades taimi kasvatada oskavad) .. ja isegi nendes ekstreem näidetes, VÕTA arvesse, see (võta arvesse ka 2+ miljardit lihalooma ja lindu..).. ja kuidas see rohkem loomi tapab , seda arvutust oleks mõnus jagada, saaks netis kindlasti kuulsaks
Väga hästi teadlik kuidas taimi kasvatatakse, kuidas neid keemiliselt ja looduslikult kasvatatakse, ja mitte ühegi kõige vigasema valemi põhjal ka, ei tule siit välja tõestus, et siis kui taimi rohkem sööd siis tapad rohkem loomi.
Ole nüüd, enda allesjäänud aju austuseks hea mees (oled ikka mees eks?)
Tee väike paarileheline, või veel lühem tõestus, arvutus, uuring, joonistus kui muuks suuteline pole, KUIDAS Sinu ettekujutluses, taimede söömine (võta siis arvesse, et kõik taimetoitlased on arulagedamad kes ainult hiinlaste moodi maad rüvetades taimi kasvatada oskavad) .. ja isegi nendes ekstreem näidetes, VÕTA arvesse, see (võta arvesse ka 2+ miljardit lihalooma ja lindu..).. ja kuidas see rohkem loomi tapab , seda arvutust oleks mõnus jagada, saaks netis kindlasti kuulsaks
3 April 2016 17:05
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ja midagi nii arulagedat, aristotelese greeka rooma ajuprogrammiga inimeselt, kes peaks elementaarset epiirilist loogikat haldama, ei oleks isegi sinult oodanud, et kui inimesed hakkavad planeedil taimi närima, et siis selel tagajärjel hävineb ja mõrvavad, piinavad inimesed rohkem loomi. Sellest peab ekraani pildi tegam, priceless
Äitäh !
Äitäh !
3 April 2016 17:03
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Mis taimede pedeliku juttu sa ajad? Mida Sina rsk tead taimede elust kui sa värdjas ise toetad kirvega laste ja vanemate peade puruks peksmist ja siis need vorsikeseks teha, et sul purjus peaga, oma häbi kustutamiseks juuatäis peaga grilli õhtul siis hea matsutada?
Erinevalt sinust, need kes loomade mõrvamisega ei tegele enam, nemad saavad suhelda taimede JA loomadega, olles teadlikud nende valust ja mida kuidas on lubatud
Erinevalt sinust, need kes loomade mõrvamisega ei tegele enam, nemad saavad suhelda taimede JA loomadega, olles teadlikud nende valust ja mida kuidas on lubatud
3 April 2016 17:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mis osas see hitler pooletoobine oli?
Kui välja arvata see, et ta ei arvestanud kui suur on sotalistide, liberalistide, kommunistide, rooma-greeka tulnarite globaalne haare ja plaan... ja siis sai Norrast-Rootsist selle eugeenika valedel aluspõhjadel, ja Martin Lutsiferilt sai juudi vihkamise kes suutsid petta teda, et nad usuga päriselt seotud .. kuigi nad tegelikult Heebrialaste vastased rooma käsilased, LUTSIFER-LUTHER ... eks... kuid ta ikkagi võitis, sest ta jättis maha märgi,
taimetoitlusest,
ja see on piisav, .. .sestta oleks ära likvideeritud nagunii, tema kaotus oli ette planeeritud, sest muud viisakusnormid ja rahuslikus oleks läinud suuremaks ja ilusamaks kui seda vaja oli Roomlastel... kes siis nüüdisajal Rootsi-Vene ja elektroonilises ning occultses astmes ka usas on võimul...
Kui välja arvata see, et ta ei arvestanud kui suur on sotalistide, liberalistide, kommunistide, rooma-greeka tulnarite globaalne haare ja plaan... ja siis sai Norrast-Rootsist selle eugeenika valedel aluspõhjadel, ja Martin Lutsiferilt sai juudi vihkamise kes suutsid petta teda, et nad usuga päriselt seotud .. kuigi nad tegelikult Heebrialaste vastased rooma käsilased, LUTSIFER-LUTHER ... eks... kuid ta ikkagi võitis, sest ta jättis maha märgi,
taimetoitlusest,
ja see on piisav, .. .sestta oleks ära likvideeritud nagunii, tema kaotus oli ette planeeritud, sest muud viisakusnormid ja rahuslikus oleks läinud suuremaks ja ilusamaks kui seda vaja oli Roomlastel... kes siis nüüdisajal Rootsi-Vene ja elektroonilises ning occultses astmes ka usas on võimul...
3 April 2016 16:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sul on silmahambad poole pikemad ku iteised v? Siis sa vist ikka päris vampiir elajas, palun saada oma silmahambast, mis POOLE pikem pilt, sooviks ka näha oma Silamga
3 April 2016 16:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kas Silmahambad tunduvad kihvad su arvates või ?
Jeerum... mis järgmiseks, äkki kõrvad on sarved v sest varju käes tunduvad sedasi?
Jeerum... mis järgmiseks, äkki kõrvad on sarved v sest varju käes tunduvad sedasi?
3 April 2016 16:54
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Kuid sellised, kes nii valjult, ründavalt oma haiguses siin lõugu ka veel laksutavad meie planeedil, tulukad rsk, nendele veel tuleb see koht kätte näidata
3 April 2016 16:53
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Raimond Hull Bibikov Sina oled see, kes on ÜKS samm ainult, AINULT ühe sammu kaugusel, oma naise laste ja naabri imikute õlipotti toppimisest ja neil kirvega pea tükeldamisest, sest see ON üks samm sellest kui sa seda teiste lastega teed, kes VÄGA sinu liigi sarnased, samamoodi pisaraid valav, ja oma pere armastav... inglismaal juba kohtasin neid ka, kes juba ütlesitki, et kõik on keemia ja võrdne ja kaloreid on vaja ja pole midagi hullu kui ka nälja olukorras, või kui maitseb, süüa teiste lapsi,
tüüpiline arengu protsess raipesööjatel.,
Kirjelan graaafiliselt lihtsalt SINU enda aju Sinule et sa aru saaksid
ise oled nagu värd-loom, sööd verd.. teades väga hästi kui ebapraktiline ja kahjulik See suures plaanis on (9 klassi arvutusi viitsid teha praktilisuse osas?). ja siis nimetad neid kes normaalsed inimesed on, uuesti seda ilmaelu vabaduse poole pöörab, nimetad neid "radikalideks"?
Jah, kui Greeka-Roomlased taimetoitlasi süstemaatiliselt hävitama hakkasid, koos Matriarhaatias elavate Heebrialastega, siis nemad ka nimetasid neid taimetarku "radikaalseteks"
tead miks eks ?
Sa hoia alt... sest meie tegutseme sSinuga samamoodi, nagu sina loomadega. Ja meie teame, et me teeme head, sest siis on üks mõrvar vähem kes paha haisu ajab...
Need
kes vaikides veel oma haiguses söövad austusega, ja aru saavad, et neil see haigus on, nemad las olla, neid me ei puudu... ja nad südames saavad aru ,et teiste peresi sööövad.. nemad las olla veel.. ega nemad seda haigust enale pähe ei pannud, vaid see tuli enamasti peksmise ja sundimise järel, sellistelt vanematelt nagu Sina, kelle nimes on "Hull" juba sees, Seega Jumalale tänu, et ta just Sinu minu jutule saatis, ja saan aru ,et sinu vaimu teinepool, minuga koostööd teeb tegelikult
tüüpiline arengu protsess raipesööjatel.,
Kirjelan graaafiliselt lihtsalt SINU enda aju Sinule et sa aru saaksid
ise oled nagu värd-loom, sööd verd.. teades väga hästi kui ebapraktiline ja kahjulik See suures plaanis on (9 klassi arvutusi viitsid teha praktilisuse osas?). ja siis nimetad neid kes normaalsed inimesed on, uuesti seda ilmaelu vabaduse poole pöörab, nimetad neid "radikalideks"?
Jah, kui Greeka-Roomlased taimetoitlasi süstemaatiliselt hävitama hakkasid, koos Matriarhaatias elavate Heebrialastega, siis nemad ka nimetasid neid taimetarku "radikaalseteks"
tead miks eks ?
Sa hoia alt... sest meie tegutseme sSinuga samamoodi, nagu sina loomadega. Ja meie teame, et me teeme head, sest siis on üks mõrvar vähem kes paha haisu ajab...
Need
kes vaikides veel oma haiguses söövad austusega, ja aru saavad, et neil see haigus on, nemad las olla, neid me ei puudu... ja nad südames saavad aru ,et teiste peresi sööövad.. nemad las olla veel.. ega nemad seda haigust enale pähe ei pannud, vaid see tuli enamasti peksmise ja sundimise järel, sellistelt vanematelt nagu Sina, kelle nimes on "Hull" juba sees, Seega Jumalale tänu, et ta just Sinu minu jutule saatis, ja saan aru ,et sinu vaimu teinepool, minuga koostööd teeb tegelikult
3 April 2016 16:53
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
TAIMETOITLUS on radikaalsus? ? :D :D:D ja siis kutsud, või viitad, et Toidutoitlased ehk siis PÄRISINIMESED (sest tegelikult ei ole vaja öelda "taimetoitlane" , see Rooma impeeriumi homolik propakanda nipp, panna normaalseid ennast kehtestama muude nimedega... nagu heterod peavad ennast heteroseksuaalidena kirjeldama jms, on normaalsed inimesed ja siis erinevate haiguste ja vaimude küüüsis olevad RAIPEtoitlased zomi kalduvustega poolinimesed, kelle kohta siis on sõna "Carnivore" ehk karnivoor, sarkofaag , harpaktofaag )
Te ju sööte raipeid, isegi mitte loomi ja liha.. vaid surnud loomade raipe tükke mida te raiped ise siis veel põletate ja pruunistate, mustapipra ja soolaga "maitsestate", sest muidu see raipe jupid mis loodud hoopis muudele bakteritele, ei läheks teil ju kurgust alla
ja oma kätega enamus teist zombidest isegi ei saaks looma tapmise, tükeldamise ja toimetamisegagi hakkama
väikene austus Ausatele raipe ja lihasööjatelegi, kes ise aru saavad, et nad reaalselt armastaval, elus, pisaraid valaval PERE loomal , kellel on oma pere ja lapsed keda nad REAALSELT armastavad, et neilt elu võtavad ja mõrvavad.... ja naisigi siis sunnivad seda uskuma ja tegema...
Selles osas austus neile... kuid kui sina üks nendest affidest oled, kes käib poeletilt, argliku värdjana ainult valmis raipeid kilepakendis endale tooma ja siis vorstina seda leiavapeal hoiad ja naudid rsk.. selliseid õnneks kauaks siia ilma ei jää
Te ju sööte raipeid, isegi mitte loomi ja liha.. vaid surnud loomade raipe tükke mida te raiped ise siis veel põletate ja pruunistate, mustapipra ja soolaga "maitsestate", sest muidu see raipe jupid mis loodud hoopis muudele bakteritele, ei läheks teil ju kurgust alla
ja oma kätega enamus teist zombidest isegi ei saaks looma tapmise, tükeldamise ja toimetamisegagi hakkama
väikene austus Ausatele raipe ja lihasööjatelegi, kes ise aru saavad, et nad reaalselt armastaval, elus, pisaraid valaval PERE loomal , kellel on oma pere ja lapsed keda nad REAALSELT armastavad, et neilt elu võtavad ja mõrvavad.... ja naisigi siis sunnivad seda uskuma ja tegema...
Selles osas austus neile... kuid kui sina üks nendest affidest oled, kes käib poeletilt, argliku värdjana ainult valmis raipeid kilepakendis endale tooma ja siis vorstina seda leiavapeal hoiad ja naudid rsk.. selliseid õnneks kauaks siia ilma ei jää
3 April 2016 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hitleri üks põhi põhjus, miks teda ajaloos demoniseeritakse, on tema ja ta lähikondlaste taimetoitlusest arusaamine, sest need olendid, kes meid siin karjatavad, nendel see suur hirm oli, et kui see välja tuleb, siis saavad inimesed koos muude loomadega sõprusesse suheldes infot vahetatud mis kogu selle inimnaiste orjastamise projekti siin peapeale keerab
Seni aga kui me loomi sööme, nad meiega ei ole liidus, sest meie EI pea loomi sööma, meil EI Ole selleks kihvasigi, vaid on TAIMETOIDUKS loodud hambad ja kehakeemia, mis kannatab küll igast sita söömist ja isegi liha, kuid mis ideaalsemalt toimib süües seda mis ei nuta (sedasi, et ka aju saaks kõrgematele arusaamadele ligi ja oskaks uuesti ruumis ja ajas liigelda, nagu elementaarne me liigile asjakohane)
Seni aga kui me loomi sööme, nad meiega ei ole liidus, sest meie EI pea loomi sööma, meil EI Ole selleks kihvasigi, vaid on TAIMETOIDUKS loodud hambad ja kehakeemia, mis kannatab küll igast sita söömist ja isegi liha, kuid mis ideaalsemalt toimib süües seda mis ei nuta (sedasi, et ka aju saaks kõrgematele arusaamadele ligi ja oskaks uuesti ruumis ja ajas liigelda, nagu elementaarne me liigile asjakohane)
3 April 2016 16:37
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ku isa nii madalal arusaamal veel alles oled, lapsekingades, et arvad musklil, jõul ja liha söömisel seos olevat , või vajalikus, siis pole mõtet üldse rääkida, vaid kui arenenud elementaarsete teadmiste osas oled siis tule tagasi siia haukuma (siin polnud mõelnud sind koeraks nimetada.. tema ikka tunduvalt südamlikum ja arusaavam)
3 April 2016 16:34
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Sa ikka saad aru, et mitmed maailma TIPP jalgratturid, bodybuilding lihase massi kasvatajad, ja kõrgete võitluskuntstidega tegelejad on taimetoitlased?
3 April 2016 16:33
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja sina haige (see mõeldud, psüholoogiliselt meditsiiniliselt, mitte solvanguna) SINUL ei olegi lapsi, Naine kes nad sünnitas, temal on,
"Sinu lapsed" vot kus siin sünnitaja välja karanud
"Sinu lapsed" vot kus siin sünnitaja välja karanud
3 April 2016 16:32
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Sinu lapsed võtame sult ära ja sinu viime sohu kuhu sa kuulud, haige inimene
3 April 2016 16:31
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
ja ole hea postita VASTUSENA oma postituse alla mitte ära spämmi uue ja uue postitusena, Sinule on sõna antud ÜHES vastuses ja räägi seal all, kui midagi täiesti uut välja mõtled siis tee uus vastus
3 April 2016 16:30
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
aa inimene pole lehm? Vaat ku iarukas pealkiri,
Kuid keegi nii lolli pealkirjaga midagi esitleb, siis ei ole eriti mõtet aega kulutada selle peale
Kuid keegi nii lolli pealkirjaga midagi esitleb, siis ei ole eriti mõtet aega kulutada selle peale
3 April 2016 16:29
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Sinusugused peaks esmajärjekorras seinaäärde panema kui aeg tuleb ja õnneks tuleb ka. Praegu viiruste-bakterite loomine on käsil, mis just SINUSUSGUSTE sigististe soolestikus ja ajus toimima hakkab ja suht väikese osa taimetoitlasi maha võtaks
3 April 2016 16:28
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Kui keegi põhikooli matemaatikat oskab ja viitsiks adekvaatselt ise arvutada, need maapinnad, veeliitrid, toidu kogused (nende toidukogustele pandud kütus, töö ja aeg, maapind ja selle ruunamine väetistega... kui palju aega ja raha kokku? Kui liita sinna juurde selleks vajalik ajupesu, reklaamid, kooliharidus raisatud, et seda jama uskuda.. kui palju siiis aega ja raha kokku asja jaoks mis on 100% mitte vajalik PÄRIS inimeste jaoks? ... naturaalse põllumajanduse asemel millega tuhandeid aastaid tagasi suudeti kenasti suurasulaid elus hoida ja impeeriume ehitada mille sarnaseid siiani pole....ja eelkõige talu keskkondasi, nüüd alaareng nii suur zombistunud ja robotiseerunud inimestel, et enam ei suudeta elementaarsetki arvutada... et arusaada, kes meid milleks kasutab... me oleme ennast ise nuumvasikateks teinud ,teiste olendite jaoks, ja neile õiguse selleks andnud, sest me ise teeme seda sama teistele loomadele, rohkem kui vaja... mitte ainult niipalju, kui jumala teenimiseks vaja on ehk siis elusolemiseks ja oma keha sisestele bakteritele elukeskonna andmiseks)
3 April 2016 16:25
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Jah, need bakterid ongi selleks, et siin selles maailmas see toit saaks ühest asjast teise toodetud, ja mis moodi see õigustab loomade piinamist, sadistliku mass kasvatust ja eelkõige, mis kõigerohkem härib mind (kuna ma tunded nii sadistlikus maailmas välja lülitanud, muidu ei saaks funktsioneerida) et mis härib kõige enam, on KUI RAISKAV ja täielikult kirjeldamatult massiliselt resurssi, aega ja närve raiskav on zombi inimeste enda jaoks tekitatud lihatööstus, see on kirjeldamatu.
3 April 2016 16:20
Margus Meigo replied to Püha Antonius's comment.
Kuid taimede olemus on pakkuda maa pinnale elu. Õunapuud ja vilja, banaani, seemnetaimed nemad on need kes oma olemuselt toodavad tavalises algses olekus rohkem kui jätkuks vaja ja siis koostöös inimestega kes neid levitada ja kasvatada aitab nad saavad ka inimest aidata ennast söögiks pakkudes nii meile kui teistele loomadele ja lindudele.
Oluline on mitte kõike endale, vaid ka teistele loomadele jätta, kes ka kõik meie maailma kaudselt abistavad
Oluline on mitte kõike endale, vaid ka teistele loomadele jätta, kes ka kõik meie maailma kaudselt abistavad
3 April 2016 16:17
Margus Meigo replied to Püha Antonius's comment.
jah, ja see ka lõppeb varsti ja tähelepanek on õige, kuid Sa selle füüsilise mateeria armastuse harju keskmise ajast oled lihtsalt praegu veel päris palju ees, meil siin osad ei saa aru isegi, et päris MEIE pea 1:1 sarnase vereringe, südame, aju ja valus pisaraid valavaid, lapsi taganutvad metsloomad on samamoodi loomad kui inimloomad.
Täis robotite ja zombide keskel elame, ja siis kurdame selle valu üle mida inimestele tehakse.. ja alles HAKATAKSE tegema, sest seda valu veel kogutakse, ja Teine maailmasõda saab lapsemäng olema, võrreldes sellega mida ära teeninud oleme oma enda liigi ja kaasliikide sadistliku piinamise tagajärjel.
Kuid taimede olemus on pakkuda maa pinnale elu. Õunapuud ja virlja, seemnetaimed nemad on need kes oma olemuselt toodavad tavalises algses olekus rohkem kui jätkuks vaja ja siis koostöös inimestega kes neid levitada ja kasvatada aitab nad saavad ka inimest aidata ennast söögiks pakkudes nii meile kui teistele loomadele ja lindudele.
Oluline on mitte kõike endale, vaid ka teistele loomadele jätta, kes ka kõik meie maailma kaudselt abistavad
Täis robotite ja zombide keskel elame, ja siis kurdame selle valu üle mida inimestele tehakse.. ja alles HAKATAKSE tegema, sest seda valu veel kogutakse, ja Teine maailmasõda saab lapsemäng olema, võrreldes sellega mida ära teeninud oleme oma enda liigi ja kaasliikide sadistliku piinamise tagajärjel.
Kuid taimede olemus on pakkuda maa pinnale elu. Õunapuud ja virlja, seemnetaimed nemad on need kes oma olemuselt toodavad tavalises algses olekus rohkem kui jätkuks vaja ja siis koostöös inimestega kes neid levitada ja kasvatada aitab nad saavad ka inimest aidata ennast söögiks pakkudes nii meile kui teistele loomadele ja lindudele.
Oluline on mitte kõike endale, vaid ka teistele loomadele jätta, kes ka kõik meie maailma kaudselt abistavad
3 April 2016 16:17
Margus Meigo replied to Raimond Hull Bibikov's comment.
Ravile ja haridusalged peaksid ise läbi tegema ja tean rohtusi mida soovitada, loodus on selliste haiguste tarvis tootnud palju aineid mis suht kiiresti inimese silmad avab ja oma Greeka-Rooma musta maagia homo (homo kui robot, kommunismi-pentagrammi, mustamaagia ja pede haridus) algetest natukene kaugemale vaatama paneb, arusaamale, mis päris Eestile on asjakohane.
3 April 2016 16:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sest siis kui me teeme seda loomadele, siis Neil õigus seda teha Meie liigile - nii lihtne see ongi, sh. maa naistega kõike mida enamus mehed pole isegi õudusfilmidest näinud... sest iniesed ise tegelevad ka aretustega... ja nii see jääb.. nii lihtsate asjadega, me üle neid võime hoitakse... suures osas.
Muidugi on ka terve rida muid negatiivseid lisamärke mis teenib valitsejaid ja neid kes inimesi pimeduses hoida soovivad.. kuid jah, võtame paar sammu korraga
Muidugi on ka terve rida muid negatiivseid lisamärke mis teenib valitsejaid ja neid kes inimesi pimeduses hoida soovivad.. kuid jah, võtame paar sammu korraga
3 April 2016 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPrPoeR7d6o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPrPoeR7d6o
3 April 2016 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Ajaränduril muusikas, Henry Laksil, on “kolm poega”: luule, kunst ja muusika. Antud hetkel on lemmiklapseks muusika ja 25 aastat tegusat elu laval on möödunud justkui pintslitõmbega. Tükk aega varjusurmas olnud mees on taas rambi- valguses. "
http://kultuur.elu.ee/ke474_Laks.htm
http://kultuur.elu.ee/ke474_Laks.htm
http://kultuur.elu.ee/ke474_Laks.htm
3 April 2016 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi see on kõrge tase https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEfY9SnjV1I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEfY9SnjV1I
2 April 2016 16:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i-m9YLXoTI omapärane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i-m9YLXoTI
2 April 2016 16:33
Margus Meigo commented on Lauri Takk's photo.
aga mulle meeldisid kõik eelmised rohkem, va. see prantsuse lipuga varjant
2 April 2016 16:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi me ei peaks teema meikuppi teiste olendite ilkude heaolu jaoks enam,
vaid reaalsuseläheduse arendamist, sellega kelle maailmaga soovid liituda, sellega mis kõigi õigega ühel ainsal poolel olla saab, ja sennes matemaatikas saad otse minnes ka ümber nurga kohtuda ja paralleeelselt kos edasi igas suunas liikuda, eemaldudes mitte ja olles kõikjal kõigi kelle vaja ja Sinuga
vaid reaalsuseläheduse arendamist, sellega kelle maailmaga soovid liituda, sellega mis kõigi õigega ühel ainsal poolel olla saab, ja sennes matemaatikas saad otse minnes ka ümber nurga kohtuda ja paralleeelselt kos edasi igas suunas liikuda, eemaldudes mitte ja olles kõikjal kõigi kelle vaja ja Sinuga
2 April 2016 14:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nüüd muidugi suure osa "IT" meeste võlu kaotatud ja tuntakse alasti.
Muidugi suht suur vahe on nende inimeste vahel, kes programme teevad, süsteeme ühendavad ja kes neid inimestele õpetab
Muidugi suht suur vahe on nende inimeste vahel, kes programme teevad, süsteeme ühendavad ja kes neid inimestele õpetab
2 April 2016 14:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Heiki Int: "Peaks iga uue arvutiga kaasa andma"
2 April 2016 14:42
Margus Meigo commented on Henn Sarv's post.
Se annab ka märku kui algelised on arvuti süsteemide limitatsioonid, paralleelselt, meil siin kõrval eksisteerimas.
2 April 2016 14:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Koduõpe
See document on mustand, märkmed mis enamvähem õigesse kasti paigutatud,1 April 2016 23:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Koduõpe
Džungli ja iidsete rahvaste algne mõttemall on samasugune kui Juutidel, algsetel juutidel, ehk Naise ja Looduse keskne kuid samas austav ja vastutusega.
Kirjutan sellest pikemalt kohe kui oskan, kuid tuli meelde, et siin kiiruga algmateriali peaksin jagama, võtke need ühendust kes soovivad seda ala aidata edasi arendada, et meie maa saaks üheks kõige tihedamini päris tunnetusega asustatud maaks.
Meil on väga suured võimalused selleks1 April 2016 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Uustal's post.
On see päris ütlus ?
1 April 2016 21:02
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's photo.
Aivar jälle jagab reaalsust,
1 April 2016 21:01
Margus Meigo commented on Janar Einula's post.
Sama ütles ka Dima,
Siis tuli välja, et nali,
Tegelt pani rehvid tuuri
Siis tuli välja, et nali,
Tegelt pani rehvid tuuri
1 April 2016 17:23
Margus Meigo commented on Janar Einula's post.
Aprill!
1 April 2016 17:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu mu jumal lubas odinil tegijatel sündida ja kõigel muul mis meil siin ,vahe on selles
mudugi selised nõunikud kes ütlevad, et ei kuulu on lapuhhid
mudugi selised nõunikud kes ütlevad, et ei kuulu on lapuhhid
1 April 2016 15:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ma pole veel hääli kuulama hakanud, reaalsete asjade hulk ja need asjad mis juba võimalikud on, on juba piisavalt kurnavad, et häältega ammu kokkulepped teinud, et nad mind ei tüütaks ega silme ette tolknema ei lastaks miskeid vaime
1 April 2016 15:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Feminism is from them, to kill of the jewish , proper Jewish Matriarchy
1 April 2016 04:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but now communism has global hold, in most corners of the world, nearly everywhere you see pentagrams on flags and who uses money with a pentagrams on it (like EU...)
But there is also other indications that communists are on ruling., or that they will be soon on full power, like the Democratic system and people wearing ties, is another strong indication ,
also glorifying of alcohol and anti religious or anti shamanic teachings ...
But there is also other indications that communists are on ruling., or that they will be soon on full power, like the Democratic system and people wearing ties, is another strong indication ,
also glorifying of alcohol and anti religious or anti shamanic teachings ...
1 April 2016 04:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
They are greek-roman ... from their dark arts and promoters of pederacy and all that...
" According to author Jon Perdue, “The logo of the Fabian Society, a tortoise, represented the group’s predilection for a slow, imperceptible transition to socialism, while its coat of arms, a 'wolf in sheep’s clothing', represented its preferred methodology for achieving its goal.
""For the right moment you must wait, as Fabius did most patiently, when warring against Hannibal, though many censured his delays; but when the time comes you must strike hard, as Fabius did, or your waiting will be in vain, and fruitless."
Many Fabians participated in the formation of the Labour Party in 1900
Such views on socialism, inequality and eugenics amongst 20th century Fabians was not a phenomenon limited to one individual or group of people; these were widely shared throughout a broad political spectrum
(but at public they was not able to say the real reasons of eugenics as then it would not work... but their plan was to force gov to make law, that anyone who is religious can be labeled as mentally ill, so they can lock them in to a hospital for testing and programming, as for dark spirits is to dangerous to keep proper relgious alive, as time by time among them some prophets come and release things... and if there is no law to lock them up it can hurt great organizations )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
" According to author Jon Perdue, “The logo of the Fabian Society, a tortoise, represented the group’s predilection for a slow, imperceptible transition to socialism, while its coat of arms, a 'wolf in sheep’s clothing', represented its preferred methodology for achieving its goal.
""For the right moment you must wait, as Fabius did most patiently, when warring against Hannibal, though many censured his delays; but when the time comes you must strike hard, as Fabius did, or your waiting will be in vain, and fruitless."
Many Fabians participated in the formation of the Labour Party in 1900
Such views on socialism, inequality and eugenics amongst 20th century Fabians was not a phenomenon limited to one individual or group of people; these were widely shared throughout a broad political spectrum
(but at public they was not able to say the real reasons of eugenics as then it would not work... but their plan was to force gov to make law, that anyone who is religious can be labeled as mentally ill, so they can lock them in to a hospital for testing and programming, as for dark spirits is to dangerous to keep proper relgious alive, as time by time among them some prophets come and release things... and if there is no law to lock them up it can hurt great organizations )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society
1 April 2016 04:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but as am told.. this is just a public info.. reality is much much more darker... but appearing supper light .... it was also in socialist liberal interest, to get rid of Jews as they was someone they was unable to convert to communism and also they was on the way of Lutherians as well, who are another tool of anti-relgion ... Lutherians, Protestants in large part openly admit, that it does not mater what you do in earth and you do not in fact have to do anything.. just say you believe in jesus and that's all... but in REAL belief, it is opposite... You have to believe in god and what you do counts directly, in fact, if no action is done that proves your faith it is called "dead faith" : )
No wonder communist and sweds liked Martin luther stuff who was anti jew... and they had perfect plan to send and trick hitler in to it... and let him get all the blame...
in fact, hitler did not even see any camps .. but matters not.. hewas not a snits and did not say who adviced and got him on to these ideas ... or well.. perhaps he did, but UK and other lands against Germany, made law, that they must keep another 5 years secret of related to Hitler files... WHY would they keep secret about their enemy ?? Would it not be good to make public what he wrote and told ?
Hmm... anyway.... now they are big projects around the world ... from UCL to many large secret and public societies reforming many hidden ways us to think perverse and sick way so we would not notice when we have given our last freedom away... like Fabian Society for starters...
(REALLY dark arts)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sm%C3%A5land_Nation,_Lund (university found: 1666...)
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_von_Hofsten
No wonder communist and sweds liked Martin luther stuff who was anti jew... and they had perfect plan to send and trick hitler in to it... and let him get all the blame...
in fact, hitler did not even see any camps .. but matters not.. hewas not a snits and did not say who adviced and got him on to these ideas ... or well.. perhaps he did, but UK and other lands against Germany, made law, that they must keep another 5 years secret of related to Hitler files... WHY would they keep secret about their enemy ?? Would it not be good to make public what he wrote and told ?
Hmm... anyway.... now they are big projects around the world ... from UCL to many large secret and public societies reforming many hidden ways us to think perverse and sick way so we would not notice when we have given our last freedom away... like Fabian Society for starters...
(REALLY dark arts)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sm%C3%A5land_Nation,_Lund (university found: 1666...)
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_von_Hofsten
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sm%C3%A5land_Nation,_Lund
1 April 2016 04:05
Margus Meigo commented on Sheri Crisp's link.
"women, were sterilised. 15-year-old teenagers were sterilised for "crimes" such as going to dance halls. One woman was sterilised in 1960 for being in a motorcycle gang. Orphans were sterilised as a condition of their release from children's homes. Others were pinpointed on the basis of local neighbourhood gossip and personal grudges. Some were targeted because of their "low intelligence", being of mixed race, being gypsies, or for physical defects.
"The Swedish Institute for Racial Biology was opened in Stockholm in the early 1920s. It emerged as part of a worldwide interest in eugenics--the notion that human stock could be improved by selective breeding, much like cattle. From the start, the Swedish institute was fascinated with the notions of racial purity, which were to be made notorious by the Nazis. The Swedish institute invited German speakers on Aryanism.
The Sterilisation Act was passed in 1935, under the government of the Swedish social democratic party (SAP). The Act shortly preceded the founding of the so-called "Swedish model" of welfare capitalism, based on a vision of national unity between large corporations and workers. The concept of the "people's home" (folkhemmet) accompanied a close corporatist relationship between the Swedish employers' federation and the major trade union federations. This was promoted by the trade unions, and the SAP, as an alternative to the bitter class struggles that had raged across Scandinavia since the turn of the century, and as a barrier to social revolution.
The relationship was formulated in the town of Saltzjoben, and the "spirit of Saltzjoben" was invoked on many occasions to anoint new agreements between the trade unions and big business. "
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/1999/03/euge-19m.html
"The Swedish Institute for Racial Biology was opened in Stockholm in the early 1920s. It emerged as part of a worldwide interest in eugenics--the notion that human stock could be improved by selective breeding, much like cattle. From the start, the Swedish institute was fascinated with the notions of racial purity, which were to be made notorious by the Nazis. The Swedish institute invited German speakers on Aryanism.
The Sterilisation Act was passed in 1935, under the government of the Swedish social democratic party (SAP). The Act shortly preceded the founding of the so-called "Swedish model" of welfare capitalism, based on a vision of national unity between large corporations and workers. The concept of the "people's home" (folkhemmet) accompanied a close corporatist relationship between the Swedish employers' federation and the major trade union federations. This was promoted by the trade unions, and the SAP, as an alternative to the bitter class struggles that had raged across Scandinavia since the turn of the century, and as a barrier to social revolution.
The relationship was formulated in the town of Saltzjoben, and the "spirit of Saltzjoben" was invoked on many occasions to anoint new agreements between the trade unions and big business. "
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/1999/03/euge-19m.html
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/1999/03/euge-19m.html
1 April 2016 03:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.economist.com/node/155244
http://www.economist.com/node/155244
1 April 2016 03:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I guess they choose wrong kind of mental ills (as original project for socialist eugenics was to kill of everyone who can not turn in to communist eg. who have "religious genes" besides anyone else who did not seem to surrender to a rule or just look plain retarded and would not benefit regime .. but these was just public nice programmes, they exported around the world, from USA to Australia to Germany, ... the main advisers for Reich who was just a kids compared to research in to it )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folkhemmet#Myrdal.27s_influence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folkhemmet#Myrdal.27s_influence
1 April 2016 03:46
Margus Meigo commented on Sheri Crisp's link.
she should just do as my cat, when she gets pissed at you she will take a wet dump in your shoe by morning for pleasant surprise when on hurry ,
that will teach guy a bit before ... but then again, he might report that to a police and .. man, these coppers in Sweden really need to up their drugs to handle that ...
i guess the genetic programs did not work out well that run up to 70s,.. that what usually happens with all liberal social programs: they just end up as catastrophe in near 50 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilisation_in_Sweden
that will teach guy a bit before ... but then again, he might report that to a police and .. man, these coppers in Sweden really need to up their drugs to handle that ...
i guess the genetic programs did not work out well that run up to 70s,.. that what usually happens with all liberal social programs: they just end up as catastrophe in near 50 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilisation_in_Sweden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilisation_in_Sweden
1 April 2016 03:45
Margus Meigo commented on Sheri Crisp's link.
at least he did not rip one middle of bj, that would have been 50 eur fine right there. "He was in my throat, and then i heard, he ripped one long and wet one, and then i was on deadly dilemma, do i pull him out from my face to free my throat so i can get some oxygen or will i regret doing it and rather suffer brain damage with clean lungs at least...so.."
Poor police
Poor police
1 April 2016 03:41
Margus Meigo commented on Sheri Crisp's link.
Maybe it was really really closed room
But even more strange then to demand sex, then fart, then report to police, is to send that thing to a news
Basically, we had news about some guy farting. And am commenting on it, how much that say about my life
But even more strange then to demand sex, then fart, then report to police, is to send that thing to a news
Basically, we had news about some guy farting. And am commenting on it, how much that say about my life
1 April 2016 03:37
Margus Meigo replied to Chantel R Moroney's comment.
u tel me
1 April 2016 01:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Will see about that:
" Indeed, the whole notion of racial standards—of a pure Caucasian or a pure Negro—is exactly what modern genetics undermines. But, says Jackson, ''the philosophy hasn't caught up with the technology.''
Over time, ''genetics will help beat down racist arguments,'' says Eric Lander, a world-renowned geneticist at M.I.T. ''But they will need to be beaten down, because they will keep coming up.''
// as there is difference between outside identical people in same country.. they it self can be another species.
and when i end up in a universe, where this is not true anymore, then i will say "sorry, am thought so just in case" but that at no cost changes my point what and how we have to do, then it just becomes way more easier ,
but when you do complicated things easier then things will fail, if you make simple things more complicated , then you are prepared and more guaranteed to succeed in many levels, even, if there just is, Level One
" Indeed, the whole notion of racial standards—of a pure Caucasian or a pure Negro—is exactly what modern genetics undermines. But, says Jackson, ''the philosophy hasn't caught up with the technology.''
Over time, ''genetics will help beat down racist arguments,'' says Eric Lander, a world-renowned geneticist at M.I.T. ''But they will need to be beaten down, because they will keep coming up.''
// as there is difference between outside identical people in same country.. they it self can be another species.
and when i end up in a universe, where this is not true anymore, then i will say "sorry, am thought so just in case" but that at no cost changes my point what and how we have to do, then it just becomes way more easier ,
but when you do complicated things easier then things will fail, if you make simple things more complicated , then you are prepared and more guaranteed to succeed in many levels, even, if there just is, Level One
1 April 2016 01:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Just a story part and a small point between..
(They say USA, but actually most of operation roots are in Norway, Sweden, who ended their sterilization program also, on 70 as n Australia, and they in return worked for "liberal" greek-roman Marxist stanistic machine worshiping slave ideology, and thats fine, just be honest )
"Race and genetics form their own double helix, twisting together through history. The Nazis, as everyone knows, justified the death camps on the grounds that Jews and Gypsies were genetically inferior—but what is less known is that the Nazis took their cue from eugenics legislation passed in the United States. Here, race is defined primarily by skin color. Since that's a genetic trait, the logic goes, race itself must be genetic, and there must be differences that are more than skin deep.
But that's not what modern genetics reveals. Quite the contrary, it shows that race is truly skin deep. Indeed, genetics undermines the whole concept that humanity is composed of ''races''—pure and static groups that are significantly different from one another. Genetics has proven otherwise by tracing human ancestry, as it is inscribed on DNA.
Demystifying race may be the most important accomplishment of this research, but it has also solved some of the most intriguing mysteries of human history.
In 1918 a wounded woman showed up in a Berlin mental hospital claiming to be Anastasia, the last surviving member of the Russian imperial Romanoff family. Her story, from which she never wavered, engendered an epic controversy that ranged from courtrooms to the silver screen. The mysterious woman married an American, took the name Anna Anderson, and died in 1984, insisting to her grave that she was the true Anastasia.
After her death, an amateur historian bought some of Anderson's books.
In one was an envelope with some strands of her hair. He took them to Mark Stoneking, a Penn State University genetic anthropologist who would later confirm the identity of Jesse James's remains. Meanwhile an English geneticist had obtained some of Anderson's colon tissue that a hospital had stored after an operation. Both researchers analyzed the DNA. ''We found that our sequences matched each other,'' Stoneking recalls, ''but they didn't match the royal family.''
So who was Anna Anderson? ''One of the private investigators hired by other Russian nobility came to the conclusion that she was a Polish woman who had been working in a munitions factory,'' Stoneking says. There had been an explosion at this factory, which could explain the wounds that gave such credence to her tale of fleeing the Bolsheviks. The English team tracked down a relative of this Polish woman, and, indeed, her DNA matched Anna Anderson's...."
http://web.mit.edu/racescience/in_media/what_dna_says_about_human/
http://darwin.cshl.org/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
(They say USA, but actually most of operation roots are in Norway, Sweden, who ended their sterilization program also, on 70 as n Australia, and they in return worked for "liberal" greek-roman Marxist stanistic machine worshiping slave ideology, and thats fine, just be honest )
"Race and genetics form their own double helix, twisting together through history. The Nazis, as everyone knows, justified the death camps on the grounds that Jews and Gypsies were genetically inferior—but what is less known is that the Nazis took their cue from eugenics legislation passed in the United States. Here, race is defined primarily by skin color. Since that's a genetic trait, the logic goes, race itself must be genetic, and there must be differences that are more than skin deep.
But that's not what modern genetics reveals. Quite the contrary, it shows that race is truly skin deep. Indeed, genetics undermines the whole concept that humanity is composed of ''races''—pure and static groups that are significantly different from one another. Genetics has proven otherwise by tracing human ancestry, as it is inscribed on DNA.
Demystifying race may be the most important accomplishment of this research, but it has also solved some of the most intriguing mysteries of human history.
In 1918 a wounded woman showed up in a Berlin mental hospital claiming to be Anastasia, the last surviving member of the Russian imperial Romanoff family. Her story, from which she never wavered, engendered an epic controversy that ranged from courtrooms to the silver screen. The mysterious woman married an American, took the name Anna Anderson, and died in 1984, insisting to her grave that she was the true Anastasia.
After her death, an amateur historian bought some of Anderson's books.
In one was an envelope with some strands of her hair. He took them to Mark Stoneking, a Penn State University genetic anthropologist who would later confirm the identity of Jesse James's remains. Meanwhile an English geneticist had obtained some of Anderson's colon tissue that a hospital had stored after an operation. Both researchers analyzed the DNA. ''We found that our sequences matched each other,'' Stoneking recalls, ''but they didn't match the royal family.''
So who was Anna Anderson? ''One of the private investigators hired by other Russian nobility came to the conclusion that she was a Polish woman who had been working in a munitions factory,'' Stoneking says. There had been an explosion at this factory, which could explain the wounds that gave such credence to her tale of fleeing the Bolsheviks. The English team tracked down a relative of this Polish woman, and, indeed, her DNA matched Anna Anderson's...."
http://web.mit.edu/racescience/in_media/what_dna_says_about_human/
http://darwin.cshl.org/wwwboard/wwwboard.html
http://web.mit.edu/racescience/in_media/what_dna_says_about_human/
1 April 2016 01:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
."Don’t tell us to get over it
Don't tell us to get over it
Why?
Do we tell you to get over Anzac Day? "
http://www.buzzfeed.com/theoriginalarika/debunking-the-aboriginal-myth-part-1-kcfk
Don't tell us to get over it
Why?
Do we tell you to get over Anzac Day? "
http://www.buzzfeed.com/theoriginalarika/debunking-the-aboriginal-myth-part-1-kcfk
http://www.buzzfeed.com/theoriginalarika/debunking-the-aboriginal-myth-part-1-kcfk
1 April 2016 01:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and to be protected by the chaos is a oxymoron by it self ,
Chaos is satans stuff, dark side of masonry core, as then they can excuse totally morale's behavior and inflating, lies and all kind of mind rape just by using excuse of chaous.. becouse they care not if thy blow up world, in fact they look forward to it to get in to "electornical" universe instead in to women heart as normal man should, but as they choose wrong, the lose will be futile
Chaos is satans stuff, dark side of masonry core, as then they can excuse totally morale's behavior and inflating, lies and all kind of mind rape just by using excuse of chaous.. becouse they care not if thy blow up world, in fact they look forward to it to get in to "electornical" universe instead in to women heart as normal man should, but as they choose wrong, the lose will be futile
1 April 2016 01:10
Margus Meigo commented on Christian M Cawsey's photo.
Sweetness is in the air ! (K)
1 April 2016 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
we will clean up this pentagram stuff, we should
1 April 2016 01:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mitte päris see stiil aga asjaks ikka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXBBZBcOt58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXBBZBcOt58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXBBZBcOt58
1 April 2016 00:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kes siis neid teab:
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Werg
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Werg
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Werg
1 April 2016 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oi mis leid :P
http://www.ebookxp.org/loterii.blogspot.com.ng/2009/07/sergei-kozlov-magusas-porgandimetsas.html?b=4
http://www.ebookxp.org/loterii.blogspot.com.ng/2009/07/sergei-kozlov-magusas-porgandimetsas.html?b=4
http://www.ebookxp.org/loterii.blogspot.com.ng/2009/07/sergei-kozlov-magusas-porgandimetsas.html?b=4
1 April 2016 00:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
http://kultuuriaken.tartu.ee/?event=1362752628
http://kultuuriaken.tartu.ee/?event=1362752628
http://kultuuriaken.tartu.ee/?event=1362752628
1 April 2016 00:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuna aga kiriku psühhedeelne haridus on sutsu ... nagu on pannes käik pungist, pussy riotist kuni psühedeelsete ainte ja pidudeny ühte gruppi eraldamatta kes tegeled kõrge positiivse võlukunstiga ja kes vaimuohvrid.. siis suts raske siin kirikus psühhedeelseid revulutsioone suurelt teha..
Katolik ja tõsi usklikud veel saaksid aru kuna nad asja uurimisega tegelenud aga libekeeltega kuhjatud kirikud.. nodega raske..
Kuid hea kui räägitaksegi, vast
http://www.eestikirik.ee/psuhhedeelne-revolutsioon-on-hoos/
Katolik ja tõsi usklikud veel saaksid aru kuna nad asja uurimisega tegelenud aga libekeeltega kuhjatud kirikud.. nodega raske..
Kuid hea kui räägitaksegi, vast
http://www.eestikirik.ee/psuhhedeelne-revolutsioon-on-hoos/
http://www.eestikirik.ee/psuhhedeelne-revolutsioon-on-hoos/
1 April 2016 00:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"in fact i wanna merry a tree" :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOXcT4790rk&ebc=ANyPxKoKk-DzEA8GSJ6PbMo_LQeu_e08pl-bSeU3TMOkiVGRzdr73JySfY1LBvaQ5mkpxXmY5fOZtUO1tMCzT0YR1DPawdCo-Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOXcT4790rk&ebc=ANyPxKoKk-DzEA8GSJ6PbMo_LQeu_e08pl-bSeU3TMOkiVGRzdr73JySfY1LBvaQ5mkpxXmY5fOZtUO1tMCzT0YR1DPawdCo-Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOXcT4790rk&ebc=ANyPxKoKk-DzEA8GSJ6PbMo_LQeu_e08pl-bSeU3TMOkiVGRzdr73JySfY1LBvaQ5mkpxXmY5fOZtUO1tMCzT0YR1DPawdCo-Q
1 April 2016 00:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Find Your party:
https://www.goabase.net/ (some have Dark spirits also, just made for getting at to you and some gov projects.. let your own people know if ya feel some to have elements like that and point out all dark suspicious ones to other spirits so they can take care ..)
https://www.goabase.net/ (some have Dark spirits also, just made for getting at to you and some gov projects.. let your own people know if ya feel some to have elements like that and point out all dark suspicious ones to other spirits so they can take care ..)
https://www.goabase.net/
1 April 2016 00:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nug0roZCwsc&ebc=ANyPxKpXbFVWIyiTOKJ_NUQdiSS0nDRYRw5-oJYEwejSBfy4FXZfLnblz5Xsl7PSGlvs92dcAb65Xxt2BqKTTWNFclDspyynwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nug0roZCwsc&ebc=ANyPxKpXbFVWIyiTOKJ_NUQdiSS0nDRYRw5-oJYEwejSBfy4FXZfLnblz5Xsl7PSGlvs92dcAb65Xxt2BqKTTWNFclDspyynwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nug0roZCwsc&ebc=ANyPxKpXbFVWIyiTOKJ_NUQdiSS0nDRYRw5-oJYEwejSBfy4FXZfLnblz5Xsl7PSGlvs92dcAb65Xxt2BqKTTWNFclDspyynwg
1 April 2016 00:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFwvIBVptvY&ebc=ANyPxKr_yMvDEuyOXzApOY3W90VWWMcB-EWmKBp_-8QfWjKWWDjQ8Ex0rOCSkVG6Luz9HysxTGz6PsxEzAGOcgzajGaoVXncaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFwvIBVptvY&ebc=ANyPxKr_yMvDEuyOXzApOY3W90VWWMcB-EWmKBp_-8QfWjKWWDjQ8Ex0rOCSkVG6Luz9HysxTGz6PsxEzAGOcgzajGaoVXncaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFwvIBVptvY&ebc=ANyPxKr_yMvDEuyOXzApOY3W90VWWMcB-EWmKBp_-8QfWjKWWDjQ8Ex0rOCSkVG6Luz9HysxTGz6PsxEzAGOcgzajGaoVXncaQ
1 April 2016 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGSFWWLhogI&ebc=ANyPxKr_yMvDEuyOXzApOY3W90VWWMcB-EWmKBp_-8QfWjKWWDjQ8Ex0rOCSkVG6Luz9HysxTGz6PsxEzAGOcgzajGaoVXncaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGSFWWLhogI&ebc=ANyPxKr_yMvDEuyOXzApOY3W90VWWMcB-EWmKBp_-8QfWjKWWDjQ8Ex0rOCSkVG6Luz9HysxTGz6PsxEzAGOcgzajGaoVXncaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGSFWWLhogI&ebc=ANyPxKr_yMvDEuyOXzApOY3W90VWWMcB-EWmKBp_-8QfWjKWWDjQ8Ex0rOCSkVG6Luz9HysxTGz6PsxEzAGOcgzajGaoVXncaQ
1 April 2016 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Video teine pool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy81gxSw6zM&ebc=ANyPxKrsLm9516oEMtQ-co7pZ3fsACrjPNZ6OnXRKMf5RAkc29QhT8rH2LgOEpcy14MUhR-Hl96VuAWBpywGXMJ5B4uRyz3wrQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy81gxSw6zM&ebc=ANyPxKrsLm9516oEMtQ-co7pZ3fsACrjPNZ6OnXRKMf5RAkc29QhT8rH2LgOEpcy14MUhR-Hl96VuAWBpywGXMJ5B4uRyz3wrQ
1 April 2016 00:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"The removals occurred in the period between approximately 1905[1] and 1969, although in some places children were still being taken until the 1970s (same as in sweden)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations
31 March 2016 22:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Dr. Cecil Cook, perceived the continuing rise in numbers of “half-caste” children as a problem. His proposed solution was:
“ Generally by the fifth and invariably by the sixth generation, all native characteristics of the Australian Aborigine are eradicated. The problem of our half-castes will quickly be eliminated by the complete disappearance of the black race, and the swift submergence of their progeny in the white. ”
Similarly, the Chief Protector of Aborigines in Western Australia, AO Neville, wrote in an article for The West Australian in 1930:
“ Eliminate the full-blood and permit the white admixture to half-castes and eventually the race will become white. ”
https://www.humanrights.gov.au/publications/bringing-them-home-8-history-northern-territory
“ Generally by the fifth and invariably by the sixth generation, all native characteristics of the Australian Aborigine are eradicated. The problem of our half-castes will quickly be eliminated by the complete disappearance of the black race, and the swift submergence of their progeny in the white. ”
Similarly, the Chief Protector of Aborigines in Western Australia, AO Neville, wrote in an article for The West Australian in 1930:
“ Eliminate the full-blood and permit the white admixture to half-castes and eventually the race will become white. ”
https://www.humanrights.gov.au/publications/bringing-them-home-8-history-northern-territory
https://www.humanrights.gov.au/publications/bringing-them-home-8-history-northern-territory
31 March 2016 22:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
Same guy who made this: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ddc14capAj2tU0X7SQWe4W5_SJWa0J_Bu50wKjqEhpE/mobilepresent?pli=1&slide=id.p6https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ddc14capAj2tU0X7SQWe4W5_SJWa0J_Bu50wKjqEhpE/mobilepresent?pli=1&slide=id.p6
31 March 2016 21:40
Margus Meigo replied to Desmond Last's comment.
There is one piece about old Australian story on my wall as well on this date if you wanna take a look : )
31 March 2016 21:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
protection for Good!
31 March 2016 21:09
Margus Meigo commented on Chantel R Moroney's photo.
Like the Cross : )
31 March 2016 21:09
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
Chris Korzee be careful with Your special skills, they will find a emotional moment what to throw at you or depression by changing the food and period in a way that confidence is off... and then them .... you know, some of them in a cult is pretty messed up and will take personally like broken kid everything that they see as insulting their supposed superiority or understanding and control
31 March 2016 21:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Comment:
"..Yeah, well we also share dna with mice, sheep, ect.. So, who wants to confess??? "
// (well, if we would only know how much that is true about.. all the mixed versions of humans ... that are put back in to one as human... to initiate various skills and tools that human really have.. but what is hold in suppression in this reality here that is between a city walls and go to office job and forces kids to go roman school system that will remove all the spiritual knowledge out of kids)
"..Yeah, well we also share dna with mice, sheep, ect.. So, who wants to confess??? "
// (well, if we would only know how much that is true about.. all the mixed versions of humans ... that are put back in to one as human... to initiate various skills and tools that human really have.. but what is hold in suppression in this reality here that is between a city walls and go to office job and forces kids to go roman school system that will remove all the spiritual knowledge out of kids)
31 March 2016 21:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But still, the "after they leaved from Africa " myth is keep going.
//Well, perhaps ones was transported, and perhaps some transported from another places that was made before .. in older, parallel worlds that was not blown up jet..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2599854/Europeans-closer-Neanderthals-thought-Ancient-DNA-humans-species-interbreeding-outside-Africa.html
//Well, perhaps ones was transported, and perhaps some transported from another places that was made before .. in older, parallel worlds that was not blown up jet..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2599854/Europeans-closer-Neanderthals-thought-Ancient-DNA-humans-species-interbreeding-outside-Africa.html
31 March 2016 20:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
31 March 2016 20:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" So far, the Commonwealth has seen no reason to regret "
The natural increase of the half-caste population of the territory is 18 per 1,000. The census reveals a half-caste population of 758 in the territory, but as half-castes with alien fathers are not included in the half-caste population, the estimate is low. A more correct approximation of the half-caste population of the territory would be 900. They are nearly all-young, at least half of them being children. We have to face the position of raising them collaterally with the white population of 4,000. In other words, there is now a population of half-castes numbering one-fifth of the total whites, and having a natural increase of 18 per 1,000 compared with the white rate of minus .3 per 1,000, and it is only a matter of a few years before the half-caste population will approximate that of the while population. In my opinion, the Northern Territory cannot absorb all those people in employment, and, consequently, the question of disposing of the half-caste population arises. Should the total population reach 10,000, there will he work for, say, 3,000 of them. The problem will then arise as to who will do the work that is available. If half-castes are employed, the whites will be unemployed, and they will leave the country. If, on the other hand the whites are employed, the half-castes will be out of work, and will have to he maintained by the Commonwealth Government. The prospects in 50 years' time may he classified in one of three groups. First, there might be a white population in employment, all the work available being performed by white men. Included in the population would be a large number of half-caste adults, physically fit for work, but unable to obtain it, because of exclusion by law. They would be dependent on the territory for their maintenance. Secondly, instead of excluding them by law from employment, they might he employed in one of two ways. They might be employed as a subject race, at lower rates of pay, with white men occupying the supervising positions. That, however, would deprive large numbers of white men of the opportunity to live in the Northern Territory, and the work would be performed by an inferior type of individual existing on a lower standard than that of the white. In such circumstances, the extra white population would have to migrate. Thirdly, the half-caste and the white man might be given parity, each competing with the other for the work available. In that event, the half-caste would have to go if he could not compete with the white. Each of these alternatives has its unsatisfactory aspect. I suggest that if the half-caste is maintained at an inferior status, and he multiplies more quickly than is the case with whites, an untenable position will eventually arise. The half-caste population will probably rise in revolt, and, in any case, it will create racial conflict which may be serious. If, on the other hand, the half-caste is raised to the level of the whites, he will be able to migrate to other parts of Australia and compete there with white men on an equal footing should employment not be available for him in the territory. That would relieve the tension in the territory. After consideration of these alternatives, the Commonwealth, decided to raise the half-caste to the level of the whites. The children are to be educated as whites and apprenticed in industry as whites, and will compete in the labour market as whites. So far, the Commonwealth has seen no reason to regret the policy it has adopted, although it has been in operation for only seven or eight years.
The natural increase of the half-caste population of the territory is 18 per 1,000. The census reveals a half-caste population of 758 in the territory, but as half-castes with alien fathers are not included in the half-caste population, the estimate is low. A more correct approximation of the half-caste population of the territory would be 900. They are nearly all-young, at least half of them being children. We have to face the position of raising them collaterally with the white population of 4,000. In other words, there is now a population of half-castes numbering one-fifth of the total whites, and having a natural increase of 18 per 1,000 compared with the white rate of minus .3 per 1,000, and it is only a matter of a few years before the half-caste population will approximate that of the while population. In my opinion, the Northern Territory cannot absorb all those people in employment, and, consequently, the question of disposing of the half-caste population arises. Should the total population reach 10,000, there will he work for, say, 3,000 of them. The problem will then arise as to who will do the work that is available. If half-castes are employed, the whites will be unemployed, and they will leave the country. If, on the other hand the whites are employed, the half-castes will be out of work, and will have to he maintained by the Commonwealth Government. The prospects in 50 years' time may he classified in one of three groups. First, there might be a white population in employment, all the work available being performed by white men. Included in the population would be a large number of half-caste adults, physically fit for work, but unable to obtain it, because of exclusion by law. They would be dependent on the territory for their maintenance. Secondly, instead of excluding them by law from employment, they might he employed in one of two ways. They might be employed as a subject race, at lower rates of pay, with white men occupying the supervising positions. That, however, would deprive large numbers of white men of the opportunity to live in the Northern Territory, and the work would be performed by an inferior type of individual existing on a lower standard than that of the white. In such circumstances, the extra white population would have to migrate. Thirdly, the half-caste and the white man might be given parity, each competing with the other for the work available. In that event, the half-caste would have to go if he could not compete with the white. Each of these alternatives has its unsatisfactory aspect. I suggest that if the half-caste is maintained at an inferior status, and he multiplies more quickly than is the case with whites, an untenable position will eventually arise. The half-caste population will probably rise in revolt, and, in any case, it will create racial conflict which may be serious. If, on the other hand, the half-caste is raised to the level of the whites, he will be able to migrate to other parts of Australia and compete there with white men on an equal footing should employment not be available for him in the territory. That would relieve the tension in the territory. After consideration of these alternatives, the Commonwealth, decided to raise the half-caste to the level of the whites. The children are to be educated as whites and apprenticed in industry as whites, and will compete in the labour market as whites. So far, the Commonwealth has seen no reason to regret the policy it has adopted, although it has been in operation for only seven or eight years.
31 March 2016 20:50
Margus Meigo replied to Mehwish Qayum's comment.
If You can not do in the way that is possible then have to make impossible way
31 March 2016 20:25
Margus Meigo replied to Mehwish Qayum's comment.
the newer source https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCf53ses22w
would you like to drive in one?
Kind of like magicmushrooms
would you like to drive in one?
Kind of like magicmushrooms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCf53ses22w
31 March 2016 20:18
Margus Meigo replied to Mehwish Qayum's comment.
How?
More important is how much someone trusts Our smartness to understand each-other probabilities
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwa2FDEaXhQ
More important is how much someone trusts Our smartness to understand each-other probabilities
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwa2FDEaXhQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwa2FDEaXhQ
31 March 2016 20:15
Margus Meigo replied to Mehwish Qayum's comment.
true, true
31 March 2016 20:07
Margus Meigo replied to Mehwish Qayum's comment.
true
31 March 2016 20:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So what they say according to their logic:
"Before that, all Asians looked like Aborigines, Melanesians, or Ainus. As noted above, the modern European phenotype also only appears 10,000 years ago. So both modern Whites and modern East Asians only go back 10,000 years, to the Last Glacial Maximum. All humans had dark skin until 10,000 years ago. What birthed light skin? The glaciers."
(same time they link 20 000 + year skull to fins who are withe..)
Anyway, the point is that what we have to take account, that science does not, that .. species what we call white here truly are not the new age robbots but the ones that have slipped in and out from a worlds , with higher technologies then that of Odin by far.
And then yes,,, perhaps mixing come .. but not with all types, as inside one Estonia type is also 4 separate types that are like another species with each other tasks.
Also many was need for protection , that if spirits come to rape raids, the the nice looking but lower class of DNA people was given to them.. that they would think they got the God children but actually they did not access in highest levels of women, who is more directly connected to mothers of all.
Not jet so clear how to explain it as does not have proper nature tools to access the information , just small parts that are left in a mind , or perhaps as much needed, as they say : everything is not needed if not able to say that in correct reason in a usable information format that is alive and protected, not usable by life opponents but only benefiting of life maker
"Before that, all Asians looked like Aborigines, Melanesians, or Ainus. As noted above, the modern European phenotype also only appears 10,000 years ago. So both modern Whites and modern East Asians only go back 10,000 years, to the Last Glacial Maximum. All humans had dark skin until 10,000 years ago. What birthed light skin? The glaciers."
(same time they link 20 000 + year skull to fins who are withe..)
Anyway, the point is that what we have to take account, that science does not, that .. species what we call white here truly are not the new age robbots but the ones that have slipped in and out from a worlds , with higher technologies then that of Odin by far.
And then yes,,, perhaps mixing come .. but not with all types, as inside one Estonia type is also 4 separate types that are like another species with each other tasks.
Also many was need for protection , that if spirits come to rape raids, the the nice looking but lower class of DNA people was given to them.. that they would think they got the God children but actually they did not access in highest levels of women, who is more directly connected to mothers of all.
Not jet so clear how to explain it as does not have proper nature tools to access the information , just small parts that are left in a mind , or perhaps as much needed, as they say : everything is not needed if not able to say that in correct reason in a usable information format that is alive and protected, not usable by life opponents but only benefiting of life maker
31 March 2016 17:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Previously, the oldest European skull was 30,000 years ago and was said to look like a modern European, with closest affinities to Finns. " (Fins means Est's as Estonians are step more near to groups that is called Finno-ugric then Finnish is told now by many. And by geography.
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"Before that, European Caucasians resemble Arabs. For instance, a 24,000 year old Cro-Magnon European shows DNA similarities to Near East (Arabs or the Caucasus). A 23,000 year old Italian Cro-Magnon sample genetically resembles modern Middle Easterners from Palestine, Syria, Yemen and Iran."
But they still say that:
"The original Proto-Asians came out of Africa 65,000 years ago, probably descendants of the M168 line, although NE Asians are probably partly M89.
The original Caucasians did indeed come out of Africa about 40-45,000 years ago, probably descendants of the M89 line. Whites and Caucasians in general are probably a legacy of M89 and not M168.
M89 birthed M45, which are the Proto-Amerindians of 35,000 years ago, on the steppes and in the Mongolia-Siberia region. A child of M45, M173, were the first Europeans, and may be represented by this fellow. Later, M343, the real Cro-Magnon, appeared. It is a bit confusing whether Cro-Magnon is M173 or M343 or both."
https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/the-birth-of-the-caucasian-race/
But all that am care little compared of caring about getting things in to proper order and stop forceful mixing that eliminates serious cleanses of various species types .
Original Hebrews, Jews have told to have least amount of mental ilness and many other genetic mistakes and they have been mixing least amount with others
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"Before that, European Caucasians resemble Arabs. For instance, a 24,000 year old Cro-Magnon European shows DNA similarities to Near East (Arabs or the Caucasus). A 23,000 year old Italian Cro-Magnon sample genetically resembles modern Middle Easterners from Palestine, Syria, Yemen and Iran."
But they still say that:
"The original Proto-Asians came out of Africa 65,000 years ago, probably descendants of the M168 line, although NE Asians are probably partly M89.
The original Caucasians did indeed come out of Africa about 40-45,000 years ago, probably descendants of the M89 line. Whites and Caucasians in general are probably a legacy of M89 and not M168.
M89 birthed M45, which are the Proto-Amerindians of 35,000 years ago, on the steppes and in the Mongolia-Siberia region. A child of M45, M173, were the first Europeans, and may be represented by this fellow. Later, M343, the real Cro-Magnon, appeared. It is a bit confusing whether Cro-Magnon is M173 or M343 or both."
https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/the-birth-of-the-caucasian-race/
But all that am care little compared of caring about getting things in to proper order and stop forceful mixing that eliminates serious cleanses of various species types .
Original Hebrews, Jews have told to have least amount of mental ilness and many other genetic mistakes and they have been mixing least amount with others
https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/the-birth-of-the-caucasian-race/
31 March 2016 17:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This people look so nice : http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/China_2.htm
Just falling in love with Humanity all over again
Just falling in love with Humanity all over again
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/China_2.htm
31 March 2016 17:18
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
Original Creations story is that world come from an Egg, and this is why the Sumerians also portray god as bird head... and also, the "Milkyway" is called "Bird Road" in our language,
"Home-Land" and Earth is same word in our language, We also have words like "Birth Place" "Birth Land" "Home PLace" what many large languages do not have (as one word, everyday use, sepperate).
Also our Language is not of the part of the Indo European tree as all the german, russian, italy, elgish etc are
I think in Sumerian, the oldest documented high culture word for Mother was " Em " and in our language is "Ema" (Emamaa is "Motherland", but more is used Emakeel (MotherTongue - this is global .. so language seems to be from Female as well..))
Also their god Anunaki ... our ordinary women name is Ann and Anu in here, and naksi-trallid is ordinary child folklore characters who play some character to someone to get something done.
(as they crave things in to stone... we was in one with nature)
Does not mean much in current scientific terms, but something to keep in mind a bit still
"Home-Land" and Earth is same word in our language, We also have words like "Birth Place" "Birth Land" "Home PLace" what many large languages do not have (as one word, everyday use, sepperate).
Also our Language is not of the part of the Indo European tree as all the german, russian, italy, elgish etc are
I think in Sumerian, the oldest documented high culture word for Mother was " Em " and in our language is "Ema" (Emamaa is "Motherland", but more is used Emakeel (MotherTongue - this is global .. so language seems to be from Female as well..))
Also their god Anunaki ... our ordinary women name is Ann and Anu in here, and naksi-trallid is ordinary child folklore characters who play some character to someone to get something done.
(as they crave things in to stone... we was in one with nature)
Does not mean much in current scientific terms, but something to keep in mind a bit still
31 March 2016 17:12
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
Chris Korzee Odin is shape sifter he can be whatever color he want to be, not human nor working for humans.
So You DO believe there is "White" and "black" (and Asians..Aborigines..) not the propaganda related to: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/worlds-most-ancient-race-traced-in-dna-study-1677113.html
As if all come from Africa then there can be no rassism except the rassism against whites (as minority they are and as someone who come "after dark skin" so how can child blame parents roots to be bad or worst, if nothing was before, only older ones can say to a Younger they went wrong and Younger can feel stressed about pressure and shame of evolving wrong , but in the end parents can be blamed for letting ones to evolve wrong... if that would be the case and if all come from same species.. )
The other story is that original Ancients have always been light colored and from it other non human species copied, hijacked the Base workings and developed their own, another versions of human like species.
Including Hispanics and later on Norway types that are more orientated to war and struggle by the design, but as the ones like Hebrew or more like the ones that we have here (who according to our folklore eliminated something like the Atlantis after these started to make to much black magic and versions of species that are not appropriate for benefiting world evolution and calm mind. )
We also have Acient like story about how first metal orientated people was made by Est's ancestors, who later turned proud and against us all
So You DO believe there is "White" and "black" (and Asians..Aborigines..) not the propaganda related to: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/worlds-most-ancient-race-traced-in-dna-study-1677113.html
As if all come from Africa then there can be no rassism except the rassism against whites (as minority they are and as someone who come "after dark skin" so how can child blame parents roots to be bad or worst, if nothing was before, only older ones can say to a Younger they went wrong and Younger can feel stressed about pressure and shame of evolving wrong , but in the end parents can be blamed for letting ones to evolve wrong... if that would be the case and if all come from same species.. )
The other story is that original Ancients have always been light colored and from it other non human species copied, hijacked the Base workings and developed their own, another versions of human like species.
Including Hispanics and later on Norway types that are more orientated to war and struggle by the design, but as the ones like Hebrew or more like the ones that we have here (who according to our folklore eliminated something like the Atlantis after these started to make to much black magic and versions of species that are not appropriate for benefiting world evolution and calm mind. )
We also have Acient like story about how first metal orientated people was made by Est's ancestors, who later turned proud and against us all
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/worlds-most-ancient-race-traced-in-dna-study-1677113.html
31 March 2016 17:05
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
Or Chinese ? ... whats up with them ... who is behind that species am wonder. Originally. Clearly communist anarchist roman-greek education about "everyone come and spread naturally(from Africa)" do not work out more as Indians say that everyone come from india.
But would be interesting to see, who made them, was them meant to be as one of us? Seems so from a nature skills and intelligence. Similar with some Royal species in Africa, also interesting. . ... but then again, i see much more difference between a white devil, homorobot compared to Asian countryman who i can fully admire. ... so the one who is problem to us does not discriminate color, for them would work if all is gray as well. They just need soul, with everything in it.
Them, seem interesting as besides Est's the original shamanic and craft man species behind Estonia, some Asians seem to be only one who have developed advanced healthy farming and construction skills that can withstand 100 years of cold and heat, is spirit activated and wide personal space concept with yearly food storage and clothing production. More then 5000 years ago.
But would be interesting to see, who made them, was them meant to be as one of us? Seems so from a nature skills and intelligence. Similar with some Royal species in Africa, also interesting. . ... but then again, i see much more difference between a white devil, homorobot compared to Asian countryman who i can fully admire. ... so the one who is problem to us does not discriminate color, for them would work if all is gray as well. They just need soul, with everything in it.
Them, seem interesting as besides Est's the original shamanic and craft man species behind Estonia, some Asians seem to be only one who have developed advanced healthy farming and construction skills that can withstand 100 years of cold and heat, is spirit activated and wide personal space concept with yearly food storage and clothing production. More then 5000 years ago.
31 March 2016 16:19
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Korzee's comment.
But God is white right ?
31 March 2016 16:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sometimes when we see to much we become blind to this what is near of us
31 March 2016 16:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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The Greek word for church is ekklesia and it means the called out and the church. Jesus said that people should repent and believe the Gospel. Here is a call to come out of darkness and the slavery of sin and born again by the grace of God into the church of God, ekklesia. Kyriakos, Kyriakon means the Lord. The institutional church teaches that it is from the word Kyriakos, Kyriakon that the word church is derived, which means the church institution, the people of God.
The religious church institution does not call people out of the world but call people in to their church institution without repentance through water babtism. The word for “church” in the Bible is ekklesia, which means the church, Jesus' disciples. Kyriakon means the Lord, not the church or church instution, which has the word ekklesia for it. The word Kyriakos occurs twice in the New Testament:
1.Cor.11:20 When ye come together therefore into one place, [this] is not to eat the Lord’s (Kyriakon) supper.
The word Kyriakon occurs as the word Lord’s, which means Jesus Christ, not the church.
Rev.1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s (Kyriake) day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%2011%3A20&version=CJB;OJB;VOICE
The Greek word for church is ekklesia and it means the called out and the church. Jesus said that people should repent and believe the Gospel. Here is a call to come out of darkness and the slavery of sin and born again by the grace of God into the church of God, ekklesia. Kyriakos, Kyriakon means the Lord. The institutional church teaches that it is from the word Kyriakos, Kyriakon that the word church is derived, which means the church institution, the people of God.
The religious church institution does not call people out of the world but call people in to their church institution without repentance through water babtism. The word for “church” in the Bible is ekklesia, which means the church, Jesus' disciples. Kyriakon means the Lord, not the church or church instution, which has the word ekklesia for it. The word Kyriakos occurs twice in the New Testament:
1.Cor.11:20 When ye come together therefore into one place, [this] is not to eat the Lord’s (Kyriakon) supper.
The word Kyriakon occurs as the word Lord’s, which means Jesus Christ, not the church.
Rev.1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s (Kyriake) day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%2011%3A20&version=CJB;OJB;VOICE
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+11%3A20&version=CJB%3BOJB%3BVOICE
31 March 2016 02:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Depiction of the Earth:Venus 8:13 near resonance. With Earth held stationary at the center of a nonrotating frame, the successive inferior conjunctions of Venus over eight Earth years trace a pentagrammic pattern (reflecting the difference between the numbers in the ratio).
//ehk see trajektor mis veenusel pogeneda ei lase
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_resonance#Coincidental_.27near.27_ratios_of_mean_motion
//ehk see trajektor mis veenusel pogeneda ei lase
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_resonance#Coincidental_.27near.27_ratios_of_mean_motion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_resonance#Coincidental_.27near.27_ratios_of_mean_motion
31 March 2016 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" The Romans believed that the gods influence and rule on the seven hills of Rome: “De septem montibus virum”. This became a concept to the Romans; the noble city of seven hills that rules the whole world. The Romans believed they were to rule the whole world under the lead of the high priest of Jupiter (Pontifex Maximus). Symmachus, who was the high priest of Rome (Pontifex Maximus) called himself the man of seven mountains. This term, the man of seven mountains, has remained in history books because it has been found in the letters of that time that the high priest (Pontifex Maximus) is called such a name. The Romans think that the world can be led only by the one who rules in Rome, the city of seven hills. Julius Caesar got the tittle Pontifex Maximus and so also the Caesars began to use this tittle of themselves. The Caesars led the state and also the religious life in Rome, after all, the Caesar was the head of the religion, the high priest (Pontifex Maximus).
Constantine the Great “converted” to Christianity in 312 A.D. and he as the high priest (Pontifex Maximus) brought into the use the name Vicarius Christi (substitute for Christ). The new religion of Constantine became the Roman catholic (common, general) church. The Roman citizens were made Christians without repentance and conversion. A part of the early church too went astray in this catholic religion which became the new religion of Rome. As the head of this new religion Constantine had church buildings built for the “Christians” but at the same time he consecrated pagan temples. At first, the catholic religion on Constantine contained a lot of freedom, and it approved of many kinds of differences but little by little the catholic church (RELIGION) infiltrated more and more pagan doctrines and rites into the so called catholic Christianity of Rome. So, the Roman Catholic Church was born three hundred years after the early church had seen the light. The Roman Catholic Church is a miserable and transparent false imitation of the church of God. What would be more pleasant to satan than create a “church” of his own and claim it to be the church of God though in reality it is a church institution dressed in paganism, and it has perverted the truth and made the truth a lie and a lie “the truth”. Would not this kind of plan and realization of it be a satanic master piece that would lead many to eternal destruction? Yes, it would be, and it is because the Catholic Church is exactly that kind of organization.
Constantine the Great “converted” to Christianity in 312 A.D. and he as the high priest (Pontifex Maximus) brought into the use the name Vicarius Christi (substitute for Christ). The new religion of Constantine became the Roman catholic (common, general) church. The Roman citizens were made Christians without repentance and conversion. A part of the early church too went astray in this catholic religion which became the new religion of Rome. As the head of this new religion Constantine had church buildings built for the “Christians” but at the same time he consecrated pagan temples. At first, the catholic religion on Constantine contained a lot of freedom, and it approved of many kinds of differences but little by little the catholic church (RELIGION) infiltrated more and more pagan doctrines and rites into the so called catholic Christianity of Rome. So, the Roman Catholic Church was born three hundred years after the early church had seen the light. The Roman Catholic Church is a miserable and transparent false imitation of the church of God. What would be more pleasant to satan than create a “church” of his own and claim it to be the church of God though in reality it is a church institution dressed in paganism, and it has perverted the truth and made the truth a lie and a lie “the truth”. Would not this kind of plan and realization of it be a satanic master piece that would lead many to eternal destruction? Yes, it would be, and it is because the Catholic Church is exactly that kind of organization.
31 March 2016 01:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Actually this symbol is more like used to enslave a women i feel, but hey.. just one voice in the wood
http://www.kotipetripaavola.com/DaVinciCode4.html
http://www.kotipetripaavola.com/DaVinciCode4.html
http://www.kotipetripaavola.com/DaVinciCode4.html
31 March 2016 01:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
the tool like that on the page:
"In The Da Vinci Code, Dan Brown makes a big deal of the perfect five pointed star that Venus makes in the sky. What actually happens is 13 Venus revolutions equals eight earth years equals five synodic periods, or alignments of the Earth, Venus and the Sun. It's remarkable, but not perfect. On June 8, 2004, for example, Venus passed in front of the Sun, a transit. The next one will occur June 5-6, 2012, not quite eight years later. But the next time the cycle repeats (June 3, 2020) Venus and the Sun will once again be aligned as seen from the Earth, but Venus will miss the Sun. There will not be another transit until 2117.
In this animation, the region where Venus is above the earth's orbit (the ecliptic) is green and the region below is orange. The line of intersection is called the nodes. Only a very narrow window either side of the nodes permits transits, less than two days either side of Venus' passing its node. The windows of opportunity are colored yellow. After each conjunction, a red arrow moves to earth's location at the next conjunction, and a blue radius shows the alignment of Earth, Venus, and the Sun. Previous alignments are shown in light colors. You can speed up the animation using the Speed box. Start is self explanatory. Pause halts the animation so you can study it or change the speed. Stop resets it to zero.
Note: the orbits are approximated as circles, so this animation cannot be used for accurate preditions. The earth moves faster in December than June, so conjunctions don't occur with quite the regular spacings shown here.
If Venus inscribed a perfect five-pointed star, there would be a transit every five synodic periods. More than likely, there would never be a transit because none of the points of the star would ever line up with a node. But because there's a slight mismatch, the points of the star "walk" around the ecliptic. Right now we have pairs of transits eight years apart, then it takes over a hundred years for a point of the star to migrate to a node. Note that the nodes alternate. The 2004-2012 transits are in June, but the 2117 and 2125 transits are in December.
"In The Da Vinci Code, Dan Brown makes a big deal of the perfect five pointed star that Venus makes in the sky. What actually happens is 13 Venus revolutions equals eight earth years equals five synodic periods, or alignments of the Earth, Venus and the Sun. It's remarkable, but not perfect. On June 8, 2004, for example, Venus passed in front of the Sun, a transit. The next one will occur June 5-6, 2012, not quite eight years later. But the next time the cycle repeats (June 3, 2020) Venus and the Sun will once again be aligned as seen from the Earth, but Venus will miss the Sun. There will not be another transit until 2117.
In this animation, the region where Venus is above the earth's orbit (the ecliptic) is green and the region below is orange. The line of intersection is called the nodes. Only a very narrow window either side of the nodes permits transits, less than two days either side of Venus' passing its node. The windows of opportunity are colored yellow. After each conjunction, a red arrow moves to earth's location at the next conjunction, and a blue radius shows the alignment of Earth, Venus, and the Sun. Previous alignments are shown in light colors. You can speed up the animation using the Speed box. Start is self explanatory. Pause halts the animation so you can study it or change the speed. Stop resets it to zero.
Note: the orbits are approximated as circles, so this animation cannot be used for accurate preditions. The earth moves faster in December than June, so conjunctions don't occur with quite the regular spacings shown here.
If Venus inscribed a perfect five-pointed star, there would be a transit every five synodic periods. More than likely, there would never be a transit because none of the points of the star would ever line up with a node. But because there's a slight mismatch, the points of the star "walk" around the ecliptic. Right now we have pairs of transits eight years apart, then it takes over a hundred years for a point of the star to migrate to a node. Note that the nodes alternate. The 2004-2012 transits are in June, but the 2117 and 2125 transits are in December.
31 March 2016 01:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Transits don't repeat exactly, meaning points eventually migrate out of the transit window. When that happens, only a single lineup will occur in each window and there will be single transits. The last single transit was in 1396 and the next will be in 3089. But because the orbits of Earth and Venus are not perfectly circular, there are occasional double transits near the start and end of a single-transit epoch.
Also, because the points of the star migrate across the transit window, the interval between transits changes. Right now, transits occur 105.5 and 121.5 years apart. But after the next period of single transits ends, the long intervals will be different.
Also, because the points of the star migrate across the transit window, the interval between transits changes. Right now, transits occur 105.5 and 121.5 years apart. But after the next period of single transits ends, the long intervals will be different.
31 March 2016 00:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"On June 8, 2004, for example, Venus passed in front of the Sun, a transit. The next one will occur June 5-6, 2012, not quite eight years later. But the next time the cycle repeats (June 3, 2020) Venus and the Sun will once again be aligned as seen from the Earth, but Venus will miss the Sun. There will not be another transit until 2117...:"
http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/AstronNotes/Earth-Venus.htm
http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/AstronNotes/Earth-Venus.htm
http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/AstronNotes/Earth-Venus.htm
31 March 2016 00:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ei see usu värk ilma juurteta on ikka nii nõrk nagu väljaveninud trussikud,
30 March 2016 22:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mainides kavalantsu.. peaks nagu küsima, et kas ta ikka aru sai, et Kavalantsu puhul portreeriti meie maad vallutavaid deemoneid ja tulnuk jõude kes siin meid paneelmajadese elama pani... või arvas ta, et kavalants oligi minig reaalne eeskuju ?
(Arvo Vooglaid siis vist oli see üks külalistest)
ma suts pahur ka täna
(Arvo Vooglaid siis vist oli see üks külalistest)
ma suts pahur ka täna
30 March 2016 22:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kurdab identideeti puudusest ja laseb üle usualustaladest.
Ei tea kas luterlasega tegu jälle
Muidu jutt on hea poolse kõlaga ja arusaadav, aga lihtsalt nagu...
Ei tea kas luterlasega tegu jälle
Muidu jutt on hea poolse kõlaga ja arusaadav, aga lihtsalt nagu...
30 March 2016 22:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nu see rootsi vend kes seal räägib on ka ise skisofreenias,
ütleb, et rahvuslastega pole midagi rääkida, et kristlastega yhine identiteet ja siis kurdab kultuuri ja riigi alusstruktuuri lagunemise üle .
Endal sellise maa sidemed, mis usuliselt olulisemaid, nagu Eesti saab olema, ja siis taandab ennast sellest... aga kuhu ?
ütleb, et rahvuslastega pole midagi rääkida, et kristlastega yhine identiteet ja siis kurdab kultuuri ja riigi alusstruktuuri lagunemise üle .
Endal sellise maa sidemed, mis usuliselt olulisemaid, nagu Eesti saab olema, ja siis taandab ennast sellest... aga kuhu ?
30 March 2016 22:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
//all that posts need to be sand-boxed (as videos radiate also, except the https://youtu.be/VAPKqjFeXxA?t=303 one)
//Nigerian truth and theater is a bit to much to
//various points of technological wonder still needed where is no need to be added
And as for cultural thing go, it is easy, one will just say "Hey, this is our cultural show and at least we have fun with it, making entire work much more real life entertaining. unlike you there who make it fake and same time boring also"
And yes, wonder what, spirits can tell not truth also innit? And what is the outcome for entire house then... what magic is put in then?
... or can someone in real life talk to these ones like that in command only if one is of superior rank of same world ...
or... co-operation from two dark sides of the public show by telling true things i..
i feel, i really can use that for a movie..
but a bit do deep and unknown depth it (this version of dark world) is really still for now, as it is not just by far, not just some one doing ordinary job or someone just doing ordinary con
hey.. what is ordinary..
But still...
Perhaps in real life, this one needs to bee felt, but not called up to with no background, as they do have things they can throw in to you that ya can carry home later...
...so in that sense, the warning story about priests who lost their family after messing with someone of higher class is...something to think about...
and someone loosing the battle because they had blood change between body....
But most of all, the important part is, that thru her was thrown in, someone used the situation, to also throw in an information that in general view is not meant to be as public and was not as a script in beginning ... that was from Her spirit ... kind of like if you are told to sing on your death sentence and you enter in to a lyrics a words that will get out there in to a radio and once they are out...
//Nigerian truth and theater is a bit to much to
//various points of technological wonder still needed where is no need to be added
And as for cultural thing go, it is easy, one will just say "Hey, this is our cultural show and at least we have fun with it, making entire work much more real life entertaining. unlike you there who make it fake and same time boring also"
And yes, wonder what, spirits can tell not truth also innit? And what is the outcome for entire house then... what magic is put in then?
... or can someone in real life talk to these ones like that in command only if one is of superior rank of same world ...
or... co-operation from two dark sides of the public show by telling true things i..
i feel, i really can use that for a movie..
but a bit do deep and unknown depth it (this version of dark world) is really still for now, as it is not just by far, not just some one doing ordinary job or someone just doing ordinary con
hey.. what is ordinary..
But still...
Perhaps in real life, this one needs to bee felt, but not called up to with no background, as they do have things they can throw in to you that ya can carry home later...
...so in that sense, the warning story about priests who lost their family after messing with someone of higher class is...something to think about...
and someone loosing the battle because they had blood change between body....
But most of all, the important part is, that thru her was thrown in, someone used the situation, to also throw in an information that in general view is not meant to be as public and was not as a script in beginning ... that was from Her spirit ... kind of like if you are told to sing on your death sentence and you enter in to a lyrics a words that will get out there in to a radio and once they are out...
https://youtu.be/VAPKqjFeXxA?t=303
30 March 2016 09:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and on reply to last video:
"user avyarima:
I am from Adamawa so I can boldly ask " who is this idiot?".
He couldn't even pronouns the name of the LGA in Adawama correctly.
its "Michika" not "Munchika"
A non Christian from Adamawa would hardly use words like "Mission (we use job/work)", "laid your hands"(put your hands), and "take souls"(kill people) these are words used frequently in churches. I am not saying muslims don't know these words, but in Adamawa villages, imams talk mostly in Arabic and Hausa so that the villagers will comprehend their teachings hence, these words are uncommon among villagers. Making this man a fake "Christian" illiterate.
It is either these man wants fame or TB paid him to do this rubbish. By the way, I am a Christian from Adamawa. Please, stop using our pains for your financial advantage. God is watching "
---
Ahmed Bashir Ribadu1 month ago (edited)
I am from Adamawa state in Yola & , 1. I can swear 100% this man is not from Yola or a Muslim, but a hired idiot Lagos boy. a week ago, i watched TB Joshuas video claiming miracles on my facebook, though it looks to me like an acted drama but Today i have confirmed TB Joshua is a Fake!!!
i don't feel much offended because i am from Yola or being a Muslim, because i do not support BH and its against Islam.
I pity the Christian brothers and sisters lost by the TB Joshua & co deceptions. Nothin like holy spirit, its a lie and deception. pls use your common sense.
I think this idiot + tbj needs to be arrested/investigated!. Assume its true he was BH member and killed hundreds of innocents(ur bro/sis/mom/dad/every1), now he will go heaven/unpunished and forgiven because Jesus love him and die for his sin? if so, is the Judgement just? why do we sin? why do we die?
---
I think this is bs. If you are a member of boko haram, then you believe in what they believe, their teaching, and reasoning. Now boko haram is a religion based extremist group who are fueled by the misinterpretation of the Qu'ran, so really to be a member of boko haram, you must first be a Muslim. So why would a Muslim, a person who follow Islam, be watching a Christian church mass on t.v. in the first place? This story doesn't add up
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I find it hard you accept any thing that comes out of this ministry. interviewing demons. etc. and now a boko haram member who has not been arrested?
----
This guy is not even northerner. Finally Boko haram is not about occultism, but the CIA trying to usher in the creation of a NATO military base and take control over Nigerian oil which China is trying hard to benefit from. this staged deliverance is clearly fake .
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USA CIA and financed and armed by the USA CIA and is to be used as a pretext to allow the USA Government to send in USA and NATO troops into africa and hence allow the USA Government and NATO to again recolonize africa and steal the resources of africa once again.
--
The Guy speaking absolutely not new in Lagos , i am sure he has been living in Lagos for while, because the way he speak English has show he is long in Lagos. I was born and grew up in Northern Nigeria, and i speak Hausa fluently and I understand the way real Hausa that leaved in North. This Pastor is nothing but hustler. The Guy speaking is not new in Lagos. What a pure brainwashed and all the people believed what he saying, where so called Nigerian prayer warrior or why he T B Joshua not praying to God to stop this agony that our people are going through
--
From this guy's pigeon English I doubt much if he was a member. His eyes don't look like someone that has not slept for days, his forehead does not carry the prayer mark. I believe this man is just lying to the pastor.
--
Oh my God, this man is a complete southerner, he speak english better than Joshua, FAKE, arranged confession, this Joshua and this man should be arrested. Adamawa, he said he havent been to Lagos before, and you are speaking like this. God would judge you and Joshua. When Pure Hausa man called BOKO HARAM, you could see the different from the ascent
--
// and for ending note, to mess up all the rest of the work:
You don't have thinking cap at all abii na all igbo people dey speak like igbo or na all Jamaica dey speak like Jamaica. You need to think before you comment and don't open your mouth until you have something to say
--
You probably have never thought that those people attacking Nigeria are not really Nigerians, he doesn't sound like a Northerner because Boko Haram aint Northerners, Just a disguise how do you think Northerners would majorly attack themselves because that's exactly how it started.
The End
"user avyarima:
I am from Adamawa so I can boldly ask " who is this idiot?".
He couldn't even pronouns the name of the LGA in Adawama correctly.
its "Michika" not "Munchika"
A non Christian from Adamawa would hardly use words like "Mission (we use job/work)", "laid your hands"(put your hands), and "take souls"(kill people) these are words used frequently in churches. I am not saying muslims don't know these words, but in Adamawa villages, imams talk mostly in Arabic and Hausa so that the villagers will comprehend their teachings hence, these words are uncommon among villagers. Making this man a fake "Christian" illiterate.
It is either these man wants fame or TB paid him to do this rubbish. By the way, I am a Christian from Adamawa. Please, stop using our pains for your financial advantage. God is watching "
---
Ahmed Bashir Ribadu1 month ago (edited)
I am from Adamawa state in Yola & , 1. I can swear 100% this man is not from Yola or a Muslim, but a hired idiot Lagos boy. a week ago, i watched TB Joshuas video claiming miracles on my facebook, though it looks to me like an acted drama but Today i have confirmed TB Joshua is a Fake!!!
i don't feel much offended because i am from Yola or being a Muslim, because i do not support BH and its against Islam.
I pity the Christian brothers and sisters lost by the TB Joshua & co deceptions. Nothin like holy spirit, its a lie and deception. pls use your common sense.
I think this idiot + tbj needs to be arrested/investigated!. Assume its true he was BH member and killed hundreds of innocents(ur bro/sis/mom/dad/every1), now he will go heaven/unpunished and forgiven because Jesus love him and die for his sin? if so, is the Judgement just? why do we sin? why do we die?
---
I think this is bs. If you are a member of boko haram, then you believe in what they believe, their teaching, and reasoning. Now boko haram is a religion based extremist group who are fueled by the misinterpretation of the Qu'ran, so really to be a member of boko haram, you must first be a Muslim. So why would a Muslim, a person who follow Islam, be watching a Christian church mass on t.v. in the first place? This story doesn't add up
---
I find it hard you accept any thing that comes out of this ministry. interviewing demons. etc. and now a boko haram member who has not been arrested?
----
This guy is not even northerner. Finally Boko haram is not about occultism, but the CIA trying to usher in the creation of a NATO military base and take control over Nigerian oil which China is trying hard to benefit from. this staged deliverance is clearly fake .
---
USA CIA and financed and armed by the USA CIA and is to be used as a pretext to allow the USA Government to send in USA and NATO troops into africa and hence allow the USA Government and NATO to again recolonize africa and steal the resources of africa once again.
--
The Guy speaking absolutely not new in Lagos , i am sure he has been living in Lagos for while, because the way he speak English has show he is long in Lagos. I was born and grew up in Northern Nigeria, and i speak Hausa fluently and I understand the way real Hausa that leaved in North. This Pastor is nothing but hustler. The Guy speaking is not new in Lagos. What a pure brainwashed and all the people believed what he saying, where so called Nigerian prayer warrior or why he T B Joshua not praying to God to stop this agony that our people are going through
--
From this guy's pigeon English I doubt much if he was a member. His eyes don't look like someone that has not slept for days, his forehead does not carry the prayer mark. I believe this man is just lying to the pastor.
--
Oh my God, this man is a complete southerner, he speak english better than Joshua, FAKE, arranged confession, this Joshua and this man should be arrested. Adamawa, he said he havent been to Lagos before, and you are speaking like this. God would judge you and Joshua. When Pure Hausa man called BOKO HARAM, you could see the different from the ascent
--
// and for ending note, to mess up all the rest of the work:
You don't have thinking cap at all abii na all igbo people dey speak like igbo or na all Jamaica dey speak like Jamaica. You need to think before you comment and don't open your mouth until you have something to say
--
You probably have never thought that those people attacking Nigeria are not really Nigerians, he doesn't sound like a Northerner because Boko Haram aint Northerners, Just a disguise how do you think Northerners would majorly attack themselves because that's exactly how it started.
The End
30 March 2016 03:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
SCOAN has published numerous videos claiming to document the healing of incurable disabilities and illnesses such as HIV/AIDS. Medical reports are a prerequisite for prayer for any health-related ailment in an attempt to authenticate the miracles said to be occurring.[citation needed]
Spiritual healing at The SCOAN has been the subject of several media reports, including a mention in Time Magazine, an Associated Press interview and an article by Foreign Policy detailing the proficiency of Nigerians to seek 'spiritual' help due to insufficient medical facilities.
--
Joshua also made headlines when he claimed his Anointing Water could cure the deadly disease Ebola. He subsequently sent 4,000 bottles of the water alongside a cash gift of $50,000 to the Ebola-stricken nation of Sierra Leone.This came after Lagos State Health officials visited Joshua, requesting him to publicly discourage Ebola victims from visiting his church for prayers. A Sierra Leonean politician later claimed the water helped stop the spread of the disease and cured several Ebola victims
// probably it can, if you agree
Forbes blogger estimated that Joshua has spent $20 million on humanitarian activities over a period of three years
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Veteran Nigerian Nollywood Actress Camilla Mberekpe was also said to be delivered at The SCOAN.
Popular Nollywood actor Jim Iyke also said he received deliverance at The SCOAN,[55] the video of the event subsequently going viral.
A young man allegedly delivered from a 'homosexual demon' at The SCOAN also attracted widespread media attention
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Several terrorist attacks perpetrated by ISIS, Al-Quaeda affiliates and Al-Shabaab militants have allegedly been predicted by Joshua, including the November 2015 Paris attacks, the Garissa University College attack in Kenya,[ the Ouagadougou hotel siege in Burkina Faso[88] and the 2016 Brussels Bombings
// i thought thats Vangas job
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAhDniaExjU
Spiritual healing at The SCOAN has been the subject of several media reports, including a mention in Time Magazine, an Associated Press interview and an article by Foreign Policy detailing the proficiency of Nigerians to seek 'spiritual' help due to insufficient medical facilities.
--
Joshua also made headlines when he claimed his Anointing Water could cure the deadly disease Ebola. He subsequently sent 4,000 bottles of the water alongside a cash gift of $50,000 to the Ebola-stricken nation of Sierra Leone.This came after Lagos State Health officials visited Joshua, requesting him to publicly discourage Ebola victims from visiting his church for prayers. A Sierra Leonean politician later claimed the water helped stop the spread of the disease and cured several Ebola victims
// probably it can, if you agree
Forbes blogger estimated that Joshua has spent $20 million on humanitarian activities over a period of three years
---
Veteran Nigerian Nollywood Actress Camilla Mberekpe was also said to be delivered at The SCOAN.
Popular Nollywood actor Jim Iyke also said he received deliverance at The SCOAN,[55] the video of the event subsequently going viral.
A young man allegedly delivered from a 'homosexual demon' at The SCOAN also attracted widespread media attention
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Several terrorist attacks perpetrated by ISIS, Al-Quaeda affiliates and Al-Shabaab militants have allegedly been predicted by Joshua, including the November 2015 Paris attacks, the Garissa University College attack in Kenya,[ the Ouagadougou hotel siege in Burkina Faso[88] and the 2016 Brussels Bombings
// i thought thats Vangas job
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAhDniaExjU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAhDniaExjU
30 March 2016 03:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
the most subscribed Christian ministry channel on YouTube,
https://tuko.co.ke/101032-airport-terror-warning-coincide-tb-joshua-prophecy.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._B._Joshua
https://tuko.co.ke/101032-airport-terror-warning-coincide-tb-joshua-prophecy.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._B._Joshua
https://tuko.co.ke/101032-airport-terror-warning-coincide-tb-joshua-prophecy.html
30 March 2016 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
30 March 2016 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(the video name is messed up but the video is great! )
ma, She is awesame even if play, still true the talk abut internet pictures etc, its basic if one would only know. But she needs to know,is not nice to spit on floor! (look the seccond side, and hey about wizards..) https://youtu.be/OmP_AKDHPKE
ma, She is awesame even if play, still true the talk abut internet pictures etc, its basic if one would only know. But she needs to know,is not nice to spit on floor! (look the seccond side, and hey about wizards..) https://youtu.be/OmP_AKDHPKE
https://youtu.be/OmP_AKDHPKE
30 March 2016 02:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
whit a comment: "Tommy keep doing what you're doing "Brother" ,you are NOT a "coon". You are a courageous Brother addressing issues others are afraid to address. DID YOU KNOW the Book of ISAIAH14predicted EVERYTHING you are saying about the Daughters of Israel? (TRUE) I have noooo hatred for White people. Ironic as it may sound I have had more help and encouragement from Whites than I have from Black people. WHITES taught me the good and evil ways of their people...THIS IS TRUE! I once attended a meeting against the election of David Duke for Governor of Louisiana. .In the meeting were 25 whites,a Black young lady and myself. After the meeting I felt elated in that I had accomplished something for a sake of unity. On my way home I WAS ROBBED AT GUNPOINT BY 2 YOUNG BLACK MEN.,I F**KING KID YOU. NOT. They took 20dollars and thank GOD I was able to leave unharmed. If White folks are devils ,then Blacks(niggaz) are beast heathens, It was a White girl that gave me my first book on Black Inventers in America as a younger man. All I ever gotten from the Black women was drama, manipulation and back stabbings. Black people need to attack these hood-rat males and females that contribute nothing but pain and suffering.....JOB WELL DONE TOMMY !!!"
30 March 2016 02:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
who also posted that AND that (video from minute 5)
"
These so called alien hybrids are clones and are among us today. I met two while beig interrogated durning a military convoy accident. There were 3 officers a Lt. , major and warrent officer questioning me while two men in dark gray suits observed. These men looked almost identical with emotionless somewhat threatning stares. They are everywhere.....even in your burger joints. They can detect people like me with spiritual girfs but tend to be curious or not quite able to figure me out. These beings are emotionless and can act out emotions like an actor . They are uncomfortable to be around and there is an emptiness about them. The Bible , the Book of Enoch and other ancient texts speak of hybrid beings walking among us and in high ruling places. Some people supect many Zionist and Jewish background Khazariana and Ashkenazi cary the genetic makeup in that their acient ancestors the Cainites, Ashkenazi and Amalakites mixed and interbred with the hybrid Anak race of beings. Also the fact that pure so called Jews are the only people with an unidentified mutant DNA . The fact also is that the Zionist own and control everything in the western world as well the greatest influence in the whole world. This is not ment to be an insult to the so called Jewish people but a fact backed up by science ,historical and biblical research. Many are now admitting they were created by an alien race the scriptures call "the watchers", Anunakki and "the fallen ones"."
https://youtu.be/VAPKqjFeXxA?t=303
"
These so called alien hybrids are clones and are among us today. I met two while beig interrogated durning a military convoy accident. There were 3 officers a Lt. , major and warrent officer questioning me while two men in dark gray suits observed. These men looked almost identical with emotionless somewhat threatning stares. They are everywhere.....even in your burger joints. They can detect people like me with spiritual girfs but tend to be curious or not quite able to figure me out. These beings are emotionless and can act out emotions like an actor . They are uncomfortable to be around and there is an emptiness about them. The Bible , the Book of Enoch and other ancient texts speak of hybrid beings walking among us and in high ruling places. Some people supect many Zionist and Jewish background Khazariana and Ashkenazi cary the genetic makeup in that their acient ancestors the Cainites, Ashkenazi and Amalakites mixed and interbred with the hybrid Anak race of beings. Also the fact that pure so called Jews are the only people with an unidentified mutant DNA . The fact also is that the Zionist own and control everything in the western world as well the greatest influence in the whole world. This is not ment to be an insult to the so called Jewish people but a fact backed up by science ,historical and biblical research. Many are now admitting they were created by an alien race the scriptures call "the watchers", Anunakki and "the fallen ones"."
https://youtu.be/VAPKqjFeXxA?t=303
https://youtu.be/VAPKqjFeXxA?t=303
30 March 2016 02:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and they was called out by this black rasta guy:
" Shalom rabah Israel..... I AM A HEBREW ISRAELITE....THESE GUYS ARE FRAUDS AND A MOCKERY TO THE "MOST HIGH"...AND THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL....I'M TIRED OF THIS....THEY ARE NOT HEBREW ISRAELITES AND WHEN I COME TO NEW ORLEANS ,I WILL DISCREDIT YOU IN THE PUBLIC. HOW DARE YOU DOGS SPEW PROFANITIES AND SPEAK WITH A VILE MOUTH WHILE HOLDING THE BIBLE, A HOLY(separate)BOOK IN YOUR HANDS. THESE MEN ARE BREAKING ONE OF THE FIRST RULES OF PRESENTATION AND SPEAKING..(.EPHESIANS:4:29 Let not unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, only such a word good for edification according to need at moment ,so that it will give GRACE to those that hear ) ....Do these "clowns speak with grace using nasty profanities while speaking GOD;S word...PLEASE TELL ME? ( LUKE:6:45...Good or evil ,for his mouth speaks from that which fills his hearth". ) FOLKSWHEN YOU HEAR ANYONE CALLING THEMSELVES HEBREWS AND THEY ARE USING PROFANITIES AND CUSSING WITH THE BIBLE , I TELL YOU AND STAND WITNESS....THEY ARE NOT A HEBREW ISRAELITE AND ARE NOT OF GOD . THESE FOOLS MAKE OUR JOB MUCH HARDER THROUGH THEIR FALSE REPRESENTATION AND IMPERSONATIONS. GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED FELLAS AND YOU WILL NOT MOCK THE HEBREW NATION..YOU BETTER CLEAN YOUR FILTH MOUTHS AND STOP MISREPRESENTING THE NATION...YOU ARE WARNED..YOU WILL GO DOWN IN SHAME AND DEFEAT....ALL PRAISE TO THE "MOST HIGH"...GLORY TO YASHAYAH HA DEVAR !!! "
https://plus.google.com/u/0/108300828021509591942/posts?pid=6167630626956813618&oid=108300828021509591942
" Shalom rabah Israel..... I AM A HEBREW ISRAELITE....THESE GUYS ARE FRAUDS AND A MOCKERY TO THE "MOST HIGH"...AND THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL....I'M TIRED OF THIS....THEY ARE NOT HEBREW ISRAELITES AND WHEN I COME TO NEW ORLEANS ,I WILL DISCREDIT YOU IN THE PUBLIC. HOW DARE YOU DOGS SPEW PROFANITIES AND SPEAK WITH A VILE MOUTH WHILE HOLDING THE BIBLE, A HOLY(separate)BOOK IN YOUR HANDS. THESE MEN ARE BREAKING ONE OF THE FIRST RULES OF PRESENTATION AND SPEAKING..(.EPHESIANS:4:29 Let not unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, only such a word good for edification according to need at moment ,so that it will give GRACE to those that hear ) ....Do these "clowns speak with grace using nasty profanities while speaking GOD;S word...PLEASE TELL ME? ( LUKE:6:45...Good or evil ,for his mouth speaks from that which fills his hearth". ) FOLKSWHEN YOU HEAR ANYONE CALLING THEMSELVES HEBREWS AND THEY ARE USING PROFANITIES AND CUSSING WITH THE BIBLE , I TELL YOU AND STAND WITNESS....THEY ARE NOT A HEBREW ISRAELITE AND ARE NOT OF GOD . THESE FOOLS MAKE OUR JOB MUCH HARDER THROUGH THEIR FALSE REPRESENTATION AND IMPERSONATIONS. GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED FELLAS AND YOU WILL NOT MOCK THE HEBREW NATION..YOU BETTER CLEAN YOUR FILTH MOUTHS AND STOP MISREPRESENTING THE NATION...YOU ARE WARNED..YOU WILL GO DOWN IN SHAME AND DEFEAT....ALL PRAISE TO THE "MOST HIGH"...GLORY TO YASHAYAH HA DEVAR !!! "
https://plus.google.com/u/0/108300828021509591942/posts?pid=6167630626956813618&oid=108300828021509591942
https://plus.google.com/u/0/108300828021509591942/posts?pid=6167630626956813618&oid=108300828021509591942
30 March 2016 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Only show that can sound better, is these guys, they still ruling the streets man :D we got it man, yo! from minute before 16 starts the Jew part as well.. well, how can ya battle that ... maybe when one will have another dominat force in the face and no camera they will change sound
https://youtu.be/wE-AsWov_n4
https://youtu.be/wE-AsWov_n4?t=936
https://youtu.be/wE-AsWov_n4
https://youtu.be/wE-AsWov_n4?t=936
30 March 2016 01:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And this guy is a bit You know, ... has no beard and perhaps wears even tie, but still, at least You can see he has life in,
..and what is wrong with the maggots
....the spiritual maggots is what we should worry about.. well, yes actually there is great amount of them eating us all the time and our body 24 7 fighting back. .. but hey, trust that to a Lord, calm down man. Seriously
..and what is wrong with the maggots
....the spiritual maggots is what we should worry about.. well, yes actually there is great amount of them eating us all the time and our body 24 7 fighting back. .. but hey, trust that to a Lord, calm down man. Seriously
30 March 2016 01:43
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Got it!
30 March 2016 01:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Hub enables advanced integration between JetBrains team collaboration tools. For example, when you use Hub to connect your Upsource and YouTrack installations, you can create new issues directly from your code reviews."
https://www.jetbrains.com/hub/?fromMenu
https://www.jetbrains.com/hub/?fromMenu
https://www.jetbrains.com/hub/?fromMenu
30 March 2016 01:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
no pentagram there jet.. jet.. really ?
:https://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack/
:https://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack/
https://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack/
30 March 2016 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Gets even better:
JetBrains offers YouTrack in five packs with different numbers of users supported, with the basic pack being free of charge.[11] JetBrains also provides YouTrack at no charge for open source projects and for educational and teaching uses in classrooms.
YouTrack is also available as a hosted service (SaaS), called YouTrack InCloud.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTrack
JetBrains offers YouTrack in five packs with different numbers of users supported, with the basic pack being free of charge.[11] JetBrains also provides YouTrack at no charge for open source projects and for educational and teaching uses in classrooms.
YouTrack is also available as a hosted service (SaaS), called YouTrack InCloud.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTrack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTrack
30 March 2016 01:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
It really looks even better then the ad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXNrDy-gGig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXNrDy-gGig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXNrDy-gGig
30 March 2016 01:19
Margus Meigo commented on Joseph Sparrow's photo.
30 March 2016 00:44
Margus Meigo replied to John Patton's comment.
but they have to go all the way
29 March 2016 19:33
Margus Meigo replied to John Patton's comment.
i hope so, releases the tension , makes people smile for a time
29 March 2016 19:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
fak ma arvasin alguses, siiani, et ma olin punaste komuunis, aa siis võib rahulikumalt võtta29 March 2016 19:22
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Viisnurk ei käi kindlasti päris silami juurde, käisin ka nende pea mosees londonis, ja siis hetkega leidsin hunniku asju mida neil seal olema ei peaks, nõudsin bossimat inimest näha, kes üllatuseks ka toodi ja selgitades talle olukorda, et mingi pentagrammidega üllitised siin ... siis need likvideeriti kohe mu silme all kiiresti.
Ükski kirik nii kiiresti pole veel parandusi sisse viinutki.
Muidugi pea mosee uks ja seinal olevad ilustused, need endiselt viisnurga all, peab minema kuvaldaga ja puruks lööma kui nad ise aru ei saa, sattusin minig maailma mastaabis usu kongressi keskele juhuslikult seal ja siis võtsin teemaks ka, et mis neil kommunistlikud pentagrammid, nõia sümbolid siin pea mosee uksepeal on, hakkasid vanduma, et neil ei saa olla, et võimatu ,et see tugevasti usu vastu neil oleks..
nu ja vaat, on ju: kui panna Mosque pentagram otsingusse yt-sse siis see video peaks avanema: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH6dhz8MRh4
tegin selle kohe samal päeval, kuid nüüd see neil lindil... küll nad teavad kui ma uuesti sõna võtan, kuvaldagahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH6dhz8MRh4
29 March 2016 19:19
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
Good,
The Masturbation attack us all the time,
final time someone doing something about it,
But they have to know, it only applies to Man, Women are kind of okey... according to Talmut.
But yes, spirits take man sperm and use it to make cyborgs and other beings that You have to fight later on, besides stopping human intelligence relating to nature related solutions
The Masturbation attack us all the time,
final time someone doing something about it,
But they have to know, it only applies to Man, Women are kind of okey... according to Talmut.
But yes, spirits take man sperm and use it to make cyborgs and other beings that You have to fight later on, besides stopping human intelligence relating to nature related solutions
29 March 2016 19:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
USAs on keskmine kuupalk 4200 + daala
Et siis umbes sama palga eest, mida saab keskmine normaale töötaja tava töö eest, saavad meie riigi tip ametnikud, nu mis arvad mis austust saab sellistel suurte lriikidel, siis meie riigi osas olla, sest nad ainuüksi numbrite pealt naeravad meid välja... pika kaarega29 March 2016 18:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Siin siis aasta 2011 tavainimeste palgad euroopas, kesmised:
Šveits: keskmine kuupalk 6407 dollarit, riiklik miinimumpalk puudub ja alampalga määravad läbirääkimised ametiühingutega
Taani: $5970, riiklik miinimumpalk puudub ja alampalga määravad läbirääkimised ametiühingutega
Luksemburg: $5864, $2411
Norra: $5632, riiklik miinimumpalk puudub ja alampalga määravad läbirääkimised ametiühingutega
Iirimaa: $5423, $2056
Holland: $4675, $1954
Belgia: $4428, $2055
Austria: $4235, $1371
Soome: $4202, riiklik miinimumpalk puudub ja alampalga määravad läbirääkimised ametiühingutega
Prantsusmaa: $4001 $1872
teine number on siis miinimum palk,
võrdluseks siis meie maavanemate, erinevate maakondade omavalitsejate Eesti KÕRGEIMAD palgad samal 2011 aastal:
Viimsi vald (Harjumaa) - 1161 eurot (ligi 150 protsenti Eesti keskmisest palgast)
Harku vald (Harjumaa) - 1086 eurot
Kiili vald (Harjumaa) - 1003 eurot
Rae vald (Harjumaa) - 1002 eurot
Saue vald (Harjumaa) - 995 eurot
Saue linn (Harjumaa) - 958 eurot
Saku vald (Harjumaa) - 957 eurot
Jõelähtme vald (Harjumaa) - 918 eurot
Keila linn (Harjumaa) - 866 eurot
Ülenurme vald (Tartumaa) - 847 eurot
EHK, siis, Eesti omavalitsejate kõrgemad palgad on madalamad, kui Euroopa riikide MIINIMUM palgad.
me nii põlvili surutud, kopikatest elame, ja ikka jätkub jultumust siin kohalikel kommaritel iriseda, et valitsejad siin PALJU raha saavad?
Kui nad lihtööle, sotsaal abile läheksid, saaksid nad ka rohkem neis riikides.
Tulge mõistusele.29 March 2016 18:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Peab muidugi uurima, et millised on need soodustused mida millise maa eri valitsejad saavad, see ka oluline29 March 2016 18:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Usas saab ka president suht vähe muidugi, üldse enamus presidendid parajad rotid,
usas 8 x keskmise ameeriklase palga, Samal ajal kui vidinatega tegelejad saavad miljardeid.
eestis on umbes siis 5 x keskmise kui 1000 euri keskmiseks lugeda.. kui muidugi madalaima palga järgi vaadata siis pea 10 kordne palk ja nii vaese hetke olukorra kohta, ju vist siis sobiks kah ajutiselt, juhul kui muidugi siis mingid hetkelised mured saaks kuskilt mujalt kaetud.29 March 2016 18:50
Margus Meigo commented on Reimo Sillamaa's post.
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Meie omast saab rohkem: Kenya, Comoros, Congo, Libya, Ivory Coast, Namibia, Ukraina, Liberia,
Nu enamvähem on meie palga tase sama mis: Rwanda, Gabon, Gambia...
Singapuuris saab president 1.7 millionit aastas, Meie oma vist 70 000 vaevu? Ehk siis 20, 24 KORDA vähem ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comoroshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comoros
29 March 2016 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on Reimo Sillamaa's post.
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Kuid see palk on sümboolne muidugi nagunii, nad patriotismist juhivad, sest noh, selle pärast pantud ka samad palgad sellises järjekorras, et selgitada kes on väärtuselt ja võimult sarnases tasemes29 March 2016 18:37
Margus Meigo commented on Reimo Sillamaa's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Suht väikesed palgad jah.. mis teha, vaene riik.
Kujuta ette, kui mingi asjalik president või peaminister peaks selliste kopikate eest riiki juhtima29 March 2016 18:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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soovid kokku saada?
Peaks leidma hunniku valgeid kes alahindavad musti, neid arsateks nunnudeks peavad ja sellistele tegelastele koolitusele nad andma
ja need mustad, ei olnud kaugelt mitte hullemad tegelased reaalsete tegude poolt, nad need kes aga meeli keerata oskavad ebaväärtustele lihtsasti.. oli me hulgas ka reaalseid, yhesilmalisi jms29 March 2016 18:34
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's post.
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ma reaalselt tean mustasi (suht koos elanud üle aasta), kes ka mitte vaesest perest, heast inglise koolist ning kes lõbusalt kilavate silmadega räägib, nii, et kogu ruum kaasa elab, sh valged, sellest, et kui olukord käes on ja vaja siis ikka sööd ju lapse ära kui vaja, et elus peab ju püsima.. ja naisele paned ära kui vaja, et ta vaja paika panna ja jätkata on vaja sugu ja vaja jätkata oma seemet...
sellised jutud, suure kõva häälega avalikult, nii meeldivalt ja huumoririkkalt, eluliselt, vaat, et paremini kui Dave Chapell ja Chris Rock kokku29 March 2016 18:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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st kuninglikud rassid, siis need kõrgemad mitu arenguastet kui enamus meie matsid, ja mustad kes maagid, need sellised keda pole me oma filmist ka näinud,
Või kui isegi arvutimängus olnud on. siis pole keegi osanud arvata, et need reaalselt millionites suured võrgustikud olemas on29 March 2016 18:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Minuarust umbes 5000 kannataksime välja kõi õige programmi paika paneksime,
praeguse aga peata ringijooksmise ja maigutamisega me tõesti, hea kui 50 negagi hakkama saame, ei saa neilgi silma peal hoitud, et neid uue kultuuriruumiga arenemisel aidata, sest suurem osa ajast läheb netis erinevates lehtedes sõimlemise peale igasugustest asjadest mida ise oma käega katsunutki pole
Tean neid ohte kui ka head poolt, ja mõlemad on mitu meetrid suuremad kui kumbki pool mida kunagi üheski meediandes siin näinud olen, selline keskmine mula on...
Kui ikka tegu on Kunagiste kuninglike rassidega.. ja tegu on perekonna traditsiooniliste mustade maagidega kes sõja ja inimsööma energias on sees, otse sõjas meie liigiga... nu mis moodi siin saab miskit keskmist jura ajada meedias, miskitest huligaanidest ja kellest iganes29 March 2016 18:26
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's post.
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Leenin ja Stalin, vast lihtinimese väärtuselt olid madalaima lihtsa juudi tasemel kuid isegi neil on väga suur vahe, enne kui juudi talla alt need intelligentsed pätid kuskile suunas särama hakkaks, kui need punased on muru üks sort, siis juudid on mammutipuudega mets võrduseks, ja muidugi, ülejäänud on hoopis tähetäist veelgi madalamal, sest muru ise juba on oluline, sestta paistab silma vähemalt ja omab minigt eesmärki, seni kuni seda sorti vaja on29 March 2016 18:23
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's post.
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Teie oma juudi vihaga, saage üle,
saage aru, et need samad punased kes juhivad kõikvõimalike liberaal äärmuslike inim-naiselikuse likvideerimise rooma impeeriumi programme .. need samad on ka igasuguste võlts juutide ja lutherlaste taga, tõmmates mõlemaid otsasi, et nii punaseid kui segaduses siniseid läbi võltsjuutide trikitada likvideerima jumalarahvast, kes tõepoolest on hoopis kõrgema väärtusega kui ükski marxsismi austaja oma unistustes olla võiks,29 March 2016 18:20
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's post.
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Kohal on nimi: mis tuletab meelde, et suumulk tuleks hoida vaous parem.. n-okey?29 March 2016 18:17
Margus Meigo replied to Kalmer Von Bachhaus's comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
kelle käsku nad täidavad siis milliste andmete põhjal ?29 March 2016 18:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Asja lõbusamaks tegemiseks lisage siis enda pool solvavaid või humoorikaid mängu valikuid siia, nende pihta kes eksivad ja vajaksid likvideerimist29 March 2016 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's post.
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Aga keda siis ei peaks soovima?
P_D_RASTID
MUS_ADMAA_ID
PU_A_A__IS_ID ?
Või mis oleks Su valikud? Alati jagatakse ja sis nii vähe julgetakse oma arvamust juurde avaldada... teiste arvamuste jagamisel isegi raske aru saada vahest kas siis toetatakse või mis ?29 March 2016 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
OcculTus Drift, here we come!
29 March 2016 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Et kui sellel URL lingil otse klikid siis tuleb see laul:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZivP6NbVdRo :)
Kuid rahulik praegu nagu peale kähmlust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZivP6NbVdRo :)
Kuid rahulik praegu nagu peale kähmlust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZivP6NbVdRo
28 March 2016 17:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja see silma tegemine..
28 March 2016 17:42
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Metsallik's photo.
Vot see juba on pilt
28 March 2016 17:41
Margus Meigo commented on Viljar Koppel's photo.
Kõik ööpäevad ongi naiste omad :)
28 March 2016 17:38
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
Also, helps to think, what they see as "current"
28 March 2016 17:36
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
Yes, that helps to pinpoint what kind of news and newspapers one reads and so is there any reason to meet such a person first of all if they keep the..
28 March 2016 17:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Divine Mercy Apostolate
Female chicken CAN start to make male chicks if needed, just because they feel they need to28 March 2016 17:34
Margus Meigo commented on Gemma Luna Llorente's post.
Group: Divine Mercy Apostolate
And what we gotta a remember, that all that symbols that are heavy, around her, need we , as She is the symbol her self already. the alive one. That no man can replicate fully ever.
But most of the women can, even with a pain.. they still willing to do it...28 March 2016 17:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Rakkastan teid (L)
25 March 2016 08:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Erik Miido peasi, et sellised kunnid, kes arvavad, et miski ei loe.. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0Dbdd2PZMs
jah.. aga ma nüõüd teele
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0Dbdd2PZMs
jah.. aga ma nüõüd teele
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0Dbdd2PZMs
25 March 2016 08:51
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
kuid igaljhul ptraegu tasub väga väga sygavalt sisse vaadata korraks, kõiide mitte lethaalsete vahendite kaudu, ja kindlameelsena olla nagu "No me valmis, mis.. hakkate andma v?"
25 March 2016 08:50
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
aga ma nüüd sõitma ise, lihtsal,t mõtlesin, et jagaks , kindluse mõttes, ei sobiks mitte jagada, arvestades, et selline kompott oli täna selgusena selge.
Kuid ei miskit Üle liia aktiviseerimist, sest see just aitab kaasa.. sest kui tuleb siis tuleb naugnii, aga kui enne aktiivsed oleme kui vaja siis me võime saada aktiviseeirmise põhjuselks., sest põhjust vaja otsida neil nagunii
Kuid ei miskit Üle liia aktiviseerimist, sest see just aitab kaasa.. sest kui tuleb siis tuleb naugnii, aga kui enne aktiivsed oleme kui vaja siis me võime saada aktiviseeirmise põhjuselks., sest põhjust vaja otsida neil nagunii
25 March 2016 08:49
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
et nagu meile meelsuse muutmiseks vaja. et neile ohjad viimased annaksime...
sest otse maha löömisest pole kasu olnud ja kalllale tulemisest.. et see liiiga suuri vastasjõude ärritab.. piisav paar laksu elektrikilpi, meie peanärvi suhtes anda.. ja siis saab aktiviseerida bväikesed pätisalgud üle eesti, kellel ette planeeritud trajektoor, korda tegemaks strateegilised inimesed
sest otse maha löömisest pole kasu olnud ja kalllale tulemisest.. et see liiiga suuri vastasjõude ärritab.. piisav paar laksu elektrikilpi, meie peanärvi suhtes anda.. ja siis saab aktiviseerida bväikesed pätisalgud üle eesti, kellel ette planeeritud trajektoor, korda tegemaks strateegilised inimesed
25 March 2016 08:47
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
.::.
See siis oli päriselt igaksjuhuks, alarmide üleslükkamiseks, trollimiseks, täis hooga ÄRA hoidmaks, teeme suts võlukunsti, sinna otsa, ehk saab, ehk ned paraleelEestiMaad kus juba pikemat aega siseseadused sassi lasknud, ega meil palju pole vaja, paar laksu ainult siseasja pihta ja samal ajal hoitakse relvi abisjaja poolele selliseid, mis ei luba neil liikuda.. ja samas palju rohkem ei tehta ka.. et selline väga leebe versioon ukrainast ja syyrjast.. kaugelt tudnub nagu eriti suurt polekski.. aga siis väikeste 4-5 liste päti salkudega tehakse meelestatus millegiks muuks.
Eriti kuna lähenetakse spetsaliseeritud sõduritega, kes inimlikud ja ebainimlikud kui sa nende inimlikusest aru ei saa (ehk siis võtakse arvesse, täielikku meie profiiili, psyholoogilist, CV Online jms andmebaaside puhul, TÜ jms semjootikute jms õpingute põhjal..)
See siis oli päriselt igaksjuhuks, alarmide üleslükkamiseks, trollimiseks, täis hooga ÄRA hoidmaks, teeme suts võlukunsti, sinna otsa, ehk saab, ehk ned paraleelEestiMaad kus juba pikemat aega siseseadused sassi lasknud, ega meil palju pole vaja, paar laksu ainult siseasja pihta ja samal ajal hoitakse relvi abisjaja poolele selliseid, mis ei luba neil liikuda.. ja samas palju rohkem ei tehta ka.. et selline väga leebe versioon ukrainast ja syyrjast.. kaugelt tudnub nagu eriti suurt polekski.. aga siis väikeste 4-5 liste päti salkudega tehakse meelestatus millegiks muuks.
Eriti kuna lähenetakse spetsaliseeritud sõduritega, kes inimlikud ja ebainimlikud kui sa nende inimlikusest aru ei saa (ehk siis võtakse arvesse, täielikku meie profiiili, psyholoogilist, CV Online jms andmebaaside puhul, TÜ jms semjootikute jms õpingute põhjal..)
25 March 2016 08:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRvAAtUzCF8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRvAAtUzCF8
25 March 2016 08:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Open Windows
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSzs_JN-4Js
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSzs_JN-4Js
25 March 2016 08:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuna aeg siiruviiruline, siis oht sellel momendil uuesti korduda, aga idanema, mädanema mujalt hakkab, hybriid ka:
"Türklane hakkab tungima vene keisri kallale!" olla Jaan selle peale vastanud. "Aga ei teda tohi nii kaugele lasta! Siis ta muudaks kõik meie kirikud oma hobuste tallideks!"
Kui küsijad olla selle kohta kahtlust avaldanud, et kas türklased ikka nii kaugele jõuavad, olla Jaangi sellega lõpuks nõustunud, pühkides higi ja öeldes:
"Ei jõua jah! Ristirahvast saab vabaks, päris palju saab vabaks. Aga meie mehed peavad selle eest Türgi põldusid oma verega kastma!"
Nagu toodust näha, võib sellegi ennustuse asetada täideläinute hulka. Ajal, mil meie vene keisrite valitsuse all olime, pidasid need türklastega kaks sõda, kust eestlasigi osa võttis.
"Türklane hakkab tungima vene keisri kallale!" olla Jaan selle peale vastanud. "Aga ei teda tohi nii kaugele lasta! Siis ta muudaks kõik meie kirikud oma hobuste tallideks!"
Kui küsijad olla selle kohta kahtlust avaldanud, et kas türklased ikka nii kaugele jõuavad, olla Jaangi sellega lõpuks nõustunud, pühkides higi ja öeldes:
"Ei jõua jah! Ristirahvast saab vabaks, päris palju saab vabaks. Aga meie mehed peavad selle eest Türgi põldusid oma verega kastma!"
Nagu toodust näha, võib sellegi ennustuse asetada täideläinute hulka. Ajal, mil meie vene keisrite valitsuse all olime, pidasid need türklastega kaks sõda, kust eestlasigi osa võttis.
25 March 2016 08:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja nagu Valitsuse vaga vanga teadis rääkida.. kui ta endakätte võeti...
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/kuum/maailmakuulus-ennustaja-vanga-kolmas-maailmasoda-on-alanud?id=37457603
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/kuum/maailmakuulus-ennustaja-vanga-kolmas-maailmasoda-on-alanud?id=37457603
25 March 2016 08:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.virtsu.ee/artiklid/1939_LE-Jarve-Jaan.html
http://www.virtsu.ee/artiklid/1939_LE-Jarve-Jaan.html
25 March 2016 08:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid on vara veel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3slPsmWHddU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3slPsmWHddU
25 March 2016 08:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1564434990551154&set=p.1564434990551154&type=3&theater
25 March 2016 08:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nice picture series under the post: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1564435180551135&set=p.1564435180551135&type=3&theater
25 March 2016 08:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ha! Decrypt that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOYhMTVZDk8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOYhMTVZDk8
25 March 2016 08:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
OKey, she is okey,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7A2ZM7MnDM
But still, there is another ways ... as people not like getting.. in real worlds.. math as we know it .. might not be, as it is to useless to ad up one dimensional virtual numbers with no meaning of value behind them that has real physical result in the end of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7A2ZM7MnDM
But still, there is another ways ... as people not like getting.. in real worlds.. math as we know it .. might not be, as it is to useless to ad up one dimensional virtual numbers with no meaning of value behind them that has real physical result in the end of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7A2ZM7MnDM
25 March 2016 03:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YOoRvNK5wk Michio Kaku's opinion on God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YOoRvNK5wk
25 March 2016 03:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So you really have think the democracy part over well, are you ?
Perhaps not?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdGOrWmVMv8
Perhaps not?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdGOrWmVMv8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdGOrWmVMv8
25 March 2016 03:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
some comments:
"H1B used to be the genius visa. Now its the cheap computer tech visa. Over a million H1B visas for computer techs in New Jersey alone."
"Kaku is a immigrant. He has insulted the native born americans for saying how vulnerable USA is without H1B immigrants. He broadbrushed and looked down on native born americans. "
"America could have achieved success without H1B immigrants. Kaku cannot prove america surely cannot have succeeded on their own"
"The reason of H1B behind it and the education development is pure, because american government pay over 600 billion dollars on military industry and want global world domination and to take their resources and materials all over the world by force. If America use their money wisely, they could easily pay most of the money on education and healthcare system and make all the 50 million homeless people in America have house, job and money and to basically make America a wealthy country."
"Oh yes, for every genius that we get, we get hundreds of criminals. In my home town we had almost all Americans (of various incomes $10,000 -Xmillions/per year) and not 1 murder in a 7 years and very few before that. Than we got a wave of immigrants. My hometown hit the number one list for most gangs in Florida. Rape, murder and hard narcotic sales also sky rocketed. Every country wants to brag about a few geniuses, but never the millions of criminals that they dump on the USA."
"UN Agenda 21 doesn't want highly intelligent, and capable American citizens."
// Really?
and finally:
"I think America's secret weapons are immigrants from several generations ago that built the foundations of American education and industry. The secret weapon for these new incoming geniuses is not their country of origin, but the things offered in America, built by people with families that go back for generations. H1B's need Americans, not the other way around."
and as extra:
If anyone can contact Dr. Kaku Please ask him to google the book "D.D.D.O.A." It is about the dumbing down of America's children, Dr. Kaku was talking about Americans graduating with such low intelligence, this will tell him why.
Michio KaKu (CoCo) is no "super genius". He's another pseudo science pop icon like deGrasse Tyson or really dumb Bill Nye. When you exalt idiots like this you only show your own low level IQ and pop culture mentality. You want to see the mind of real super genius? Then look at folks like Einstein, Newton, Gauss and a whole slew of real achievers in the science history timeline.
"We even bother posting this shit to make Michio look good when you don't even show the full debate or the question that started the argument? Talk about stupid RadioFreedom. Anyway I saw the full interview and Michio just couldn't want to toot his own horn on foreigner born mongrels with better text books. Too bad he is another puppet being played by the big boys with cash. That's right make us another weapon to blow some shit up with Michio."
"A super weapon? ...? You think they have just one??? LOL Budz, they have lists of them..."
"Money is the root of evil. Greed is science. This man is a NEGATIVE energy."
"Funny how a scientist can't see past the illusion of money, if you remove money, you remove, the desire for gain, every one can all continue in their current occupation for the greater good of humans. we than remove most crime, debt, and poverty. which is all an illusion. rather humans continue to seduce and entice each other for gain. sadly our citizens wind up homeless on the shores of the country our forefathers gave their lives for."
"America has been systematically destroying it's educational system and it's intellectual base since 1958 and 1959 when America introduced the Congress For Cultural Freedom and the outright destruction of the highly successful use of the Latin Language in public schools for children that has accelerated their learning abilities geometrically that these children are learning without realizing it and learning has become instinctive in them like breathing air! And the U.S congress of 1974 has cutoff funding to shut it down by giving a lame excuse we want our children to learn to become more sociable, when in fact they want to dumb down these children to become the next generation of serf-slaves of the 21st century for the children of the NWO of the 21st century. Schools are for learning only and not for liberal indoctrination, for educating people and not for liberal politicizing them!
"'ve always liked Dr. Kaku's theories until he tried to convince me that you can get Something from Nothing. I really like hearing him debate even if he's wrong he's right :-)
Alex Gresham
+StretchNEra You're probably talking about the Big Bang Theory. The whole "you can't get something from nothing" argument is a great tool to underscore who doesn't understand the BBT and who does. It's basically a litmus test for who just skimmed through the details and who actually looked into it.
"
"Here we go once again with Michio Kaku being a full blown retard. I fucking hate this guy. He is so full of himself and hes wrong way more often than hes right. This is simple companies use the H1B over herring Americans to do the work because its cheaper. They are only allowed to use the Visa when they cant find any domestic workers to fill the jobs. But surprisingly according to census data there are tens of thousands of workers in high tech from america who cant find work every year. "
"H1B used to be the genius visa. Now its the cheap computer tech visa. Over a million H1B visas for computer techs in New Jersey alone."
"Kaku is a immigrant. He has insulted the native born americans for saying how vulnerable USA is without H1B immigrants. He broadbrushed and looked down on native born americans. "
"America could have achieved success without H1B immigrants. Kaku cannot prove america surely cannot have succeeded on their own"
"The reason of H1B behind it and the education development is pure, because american government pay over 600 billion dollars on military industry and want global world domination and to take their resources and materials all over the world by force. If America use their money wisely, they could easily pay most of the money on education and healthcare system and make all the 50 million homeless people in America have house, job and money and to basically make America a wealthy country."
"Oh yes, for every genius that we get, we get hundreds of criminals. In my home town we had almost all Americans (of various incomes $10,000 -Xmillions/per year) and not 1 murder in a 7 years and very few before that. Than we got a wave of immigrants. My hometown hit the number one list for most gangs in Florida. Rape, murder and hard narcotic sales also sky rocketed. Every country wants to brag about a few geniuses, but never the millions of criminals that they dump on the USA."
"UN Agenda 21 doesn't want highly intelligent, and capable American citizens."
// Really?
and finally:
"I think America's secret weapons are immigrants from several generations ago that built the foundations of American education and industry. The secret weapon for these new incoming geniuses is not their country of origin, but the things offered in America, built by people with families that go back for generations. H1B's need Americans, not the other way around."
and as extra:
If anyone can contact Dr. Kaku Please ask him to google the book "D.D.D.O.A." It is about the dumbing down of America's children, Dr. Kaku was talking about Americans graduating with such low intelligence, this will tell him why.
Michio KaKu (CoCo) is no "super genius". He's another pseudo science pop icon like deGrasse Tyson or really dumb Bill Nye. When you exalt idiots like this you only show your own low level IQ and pop culture mentality. You want to see the mind of real super genius? Then look at folks like Einstein, Newton, Gauss and a whole slew of real achievers in the science history timeline.
"We even bother posting this shit to make Michio look good when you don't even show the full debate or the question that started the argument? Talk about stupid RadioFreedom. Anyway I saw the full interview and Michio just couldn't want to toot his own horn on foreigner born mongrels with better text books. Too bad he is another puppet being played by the big boys with cash. That's right make us another weapon to blow some shit up with Michio."
"A super weapon? ...? You think they have just one??? LOL Budz, they have lists of them..."
"Money is the root of evil. Greed is science. This man is a NEGATIVE energy."
"Funny how a scientist can't see past the illusion of money, if you remove money, you remove, the desire for gain, every one can all continue in their current occupation for the greater good of humans. we than remove most crime, debt, and poverty. which is all an illusion. rather humans continue to seduce and entice each other for gain. sadly our citizens wind up homeless on the shores of the country our forefathers gave their lives for."
"America has been systematically destroying it's educational system and it's intellectual base since 1958 and 1959 when America introduced the Congress For Cultural Freedom and the outright destruction of the highly successful use of the Latin Language in public schools for children that has accelerated their learning abilities geometrically that these children are learning without realizing it and learning has become instinctive in them like breathing air! And the U.S congress of 1974 has cutoff funding to shut it down by giving a lame excuse we want our children to learn to become more sociable, when in fact they want to dumb down these children to become the next generation of serf-slaves of the 21st century for the children of the NWO of the 21st century. Schools are for learning only and not for liberal indoctrination, for educating people and not for liberal politicizing them!
"'ve always liked Dr. Kaku's theories until he tried to convince me that you can get Something from Nothing. I really like hearing him debate even if he's wrong he's right :-)
Alex Gresham
+StretchNEra You're probably talking about the Big Bang Theory. The whole "you can't get something from nothing" argument is a great tool to underscore who doesn't understand the BBT and who does. It's basically a litmus test for who just skimmed through the details and who actually looked into it.
"
"Here we go once again with Michio Kaku being a full blown retard. I fucking hate this guy. He is so full of himself and hes wrong way more often than hes right. This is simple companies use the H1B over herring Americans to do the work because its cheaper. They are only allowed to use the Visa when they cant find any domestic workers to fill the jobs. But surprisingly according to census data there are tens of thousands of workers in high tech from america who cant find work every year. "
25 March 2016 03:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
But then we have this kind of people...
..hmm.. just a Visa is it ya think? You not really patriotic innit Kakuke ? Not a good American would say... we know blood is fatter then water..but is that really proper truth all ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrE9z1JFT1Y
..hmm.. just a Visa is it ya think? You not really patriotic innit Kakuke ? Not a good American would say... we know blood is fatter then water..but is that really proper truth all ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrE9z1JFT1Y
25 March 2016 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
And is that.. kind of like i think my self was calculating when was a kid .. so why so big fuss about it.. and yes, if one can explain why 2+2 is 5, it is great, as if we keep answers open, then we can discover something real, as right now.. they discovered, that everyone who they forced to focus on "right way" have not produced in the end as a group simple solutions.. .. to greatest things that old natives have talked about, the kids.. and that now highest level sciences start to realize.. ..and if we start to talk about possibilities and a women in Love... : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFyxzFSXkN8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFyxzFSXkN8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFyxzFSXkN8
25 March 2016 03:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
And it is good to same time make kids think and see the sentence about obeying gov... even assignment why gov loves you more then home can be good, if looked smartly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1Ubjg_o8vg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1Ubjg_o8vg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1Ubjg_o8vg
25 March 2016 03:42
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
They all the same God : )
24 March 2016 21:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewCnwV579bA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewCnwV579bA
24 March 2016 15:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewCnwV579bA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewCnwV579bA
24 March 2016 15:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Just in case You think i went to far with a last comment, take look of that:
Ryan McPherson and Daniel Tanner, get this time cough to smuggle baby head and other parts... (but in the end, they are the one, who leak the HUGE large business and doings of "these" kinds, that has been for thousands of years, but in almost like parallel world, so it seems not noticeable to most of the public, as they know what and how does not get reported in news.. just this time... spirits choose another-way with them )
It is still drop in ocean compared to all the tests and projects that are done in dark by what is called advanced psychologist and special assignment researchers of human species... but they not so silly to video tape these kind of tests anymore as old times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmm_kdj96L8
Ryan McPherson and Daniel Tanner, get this time cough to smuggle baby head and other parts... (but in the end, they are the one, who leak the HUGE large business and doings of "these" kinds, that has been for thousands of years, but in almost like parallel world, so it seems not noticeable to most of the public, as they know what and how does not get reported in news.. just this time... spirits choose another-way with them )
It is still drop in ocean compared to all the tests and projects that are done in dark by what is called advanced psychologist and special assignment researchers of human species... but they not so silly to video tape these kind of tests anymore as old times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmm_kdj96L8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmm_kdj96L8
24 March 2016 15:25
Margus Meigo replied to Harri Kingo's comment.
Harri Harri Harri Kingo, hurry up!
24 March 2016 15:16
Margus Meigo replied to Rain Haugas's comment.
Oh sind iroonikut :p
24 March 2016 15:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
monikord tuleb kevad lausa pauguga
23 March 2016 09:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
23 March 2016 09:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
23 March 2016 09:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
23 March 2016 09:34
Margus Meigo replied to Tiia Kustassoo's comment.
Teretulemast
23 March 2016 09:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
23 March 2016 09:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
23 March 2016 08:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
23 March 2016 08:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You have absolute PERFECT view of this:
and you replace it with what kind of album system (without logging in NEW browser)?
People will NOT start to use web in a 10" screen only you retards (this was to the ones who are retards related to perverted human needs)
https://picasaweb.google.com/WaffaD/WalkInCity
and you replace it with what kind of album system (without logging in NEW browser)?
People will NOT start to use web in a 10" screen only you retards (this was to the ones who are retards related to perverted human needs)
https://picasaweb.google.com/WaffaD/WalkInCity
23 March 2016 08:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So You have address like that:
https://picasaweb.google.com/WaffaD
And You replace it with what?
https://picasaweb.google.com/WaffaD
And You replace it with what?
https://picasaweb.google.com/WaffaD
23 March 2016 08:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"oh we looked people do not use picassa web albums so much from our google analytic..."
yeah, did you make to FIND this albums, in easy picassa format easy? No .. it actually required to remember world "picassaweb album" .. and even then you made effort not to show it on first results... in your own search.... to find it at all. As the links to it has been long deleted from google services.
yeah, did you make to FIND this albums, in easy picassa format easy? No .. it actually required to remember world "picassaweb album" .. and even then you made effort not to show it on first results... in your own search.... to find it at all. As the links to it has been long deleted from google services.
23 March 2016 08:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ilus, kuigi meite puumajad ja kiviaiad on olulisemad, paremad, oluliselt paremad:
http://www.thebohemianblog.com/2012/12/dark-tourism-illuminati-capital.html
http://www.thebohemianblog.com/2012/12/dark-tourism-illuminati-capital.html
http://www.thebohemianblog.com/2012/12/dark-tourism-illuminati-capital.html
23 March 2016 07:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Good PR or
https://goo.gl/ZK4PGC
https://goo.gl/ZK4PGC
https://goo.gl/ZK4PGC
23 March 2016 06:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
fak, me jäime jälle põhiinvesteeringutest ilma
http://realitieswatch.com/astana-illuminati-capital-kazakhstan/
http://realitieswatch.com/astana-illuminati-capital-kazakhstan/
http://realitieswatch.com/astana-illuminati-capital-kazakhstan/
23 March 2016 06:42
Margus Meigo replied to Martti Kolk's comment.
Jrääkidest armsatest neegritest, keegi ütles, et seadus muudetigi juba ära, ja me oma keelt peame mutma ameerika negatiivselt rassistlike neegri algetega agresiivselt ebakindlate neegrite ja euroopa lipsuhomode kartuste pärast... oeh, keeruline kõigiga kursis hoida ennast mida oma maal teha võid.. kuid eks jah.... maa õigused enamasti on väiksemad kui religiooni õigused, sest religioon tegeleb kogu liikidega, maa aga ühe liigi versiooni algega.
Kuid kui alged on samahead, kui meil, siis meil omakorda muidugi kohus reguleerida inimesi õigesti religioonidesse, isegi kui nad neid jooni rohkem enda omasteks peavad kui meite asja,
kuid meite asja oli enne neite asja, mitu korda enne kui me jumal otsustas seda neitele rakendada, et korda arendada,
ja me ikka siia jäime, jääme, tolmuosake meist, et seda selgemaks selgitada (kuidas palvetada)
Kuid kui alged on samahead, kui meil, siis meil omakorda muidugi kohus reguleerida inimesi õigesti religioonidesse, isegi kui nad neid jooni rohkem enda omasteks peavad kui meite asja,
kuid meite asja oli enne neite asja, mitu korda enne kui me jumal otsustas seda neitele rakendada, et korda arendada,
ja me ikka siia jäime, jääme, tolmuosake meist, et seda selgemaks selgitada (kuidas palvetada)
23 March 2016 06:34
Margus Meigo replied to Martti Kolk's comment.
Muidugi eks selle sõnaga on nagu Neegriga mida varsti siin pühamaal ka öelda ei või sest grupp arengulagedamaid seda valesti kasutab, tõlgendab ja kasutavad omakorda veel valesti tõlgendamise kasutust...
ah need kasutud ...
ah need kasutud ...
23 March 2016 06:27
Margus Meigo replied to Martti Kolk's comment.
yess, finally!
long vait!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZP1nAoajh0
long vait!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZP1nAoajh0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZP1nAoajh0
23 March 2016 06:25
Margus Meigo commented on Harri Kingo's post.
Kes see Ernits üleüldse on? Nimi on nagu tuttav... vist oli mingi muusik..
23 March 2016 06:21
Margus Meigo replied to Lauri Takk's comment.
kas nad on "kes"
või neil pole isiksust, isikuloomupärast (kindlate väärtustega ) vaimu
või neil pole isiksust, isikuloomupärast (kindlate väärtustega ) vaimu
23 March 2016 06:19
Margus Meigo replied to Lauri Takk's comment.
(viimane lause on vägapere sisekas)
23 March 2016 06:16
Margus Meigo replied to Lauri Takk's comment.
tead küll, need kes siia, meie ilma sisse ilma muutma tulnud tulnarid, /peaaegu nagu tulnukad, kuid veel ei tea kas need, kas nad on kes, need ülemad, või need ülemad me uued alamad aka 1 Corinthians 6:3
nagu mu väikevend AK juba teeb, usun )
nagu mu väikevend AK juba teeb, usun )
23 March 2016 06:16
Margus Meigo replied to Lauri Takk's comment.
Siis ma armastan Sind, enam
Selliselt, et Su pärast ei pea muretsema,
aga murega hoolima peaks ikka, sest väärt lambaid siia ilma tulnud eelistavad ohverdada enam
Selliselt, et Su pärast ei pea muretsema,
aga murega hoolima peaks ikka, sest väärt lambaid siia ilma tulnud eelistavad ohverdada enam
23 March 2016 06:11
Margus Meigo replied to Harri Kingo's comment.
teised voivad ka vastata muidugi, arvestades vaikivust kui headuse vastandit
ma veel mõtlen suts selles osas, vaikimine pole ka mitte vastamine, vaid mitte hoolimine vist eks?
ma veel mõtlen suts selles osas, vaikimine pole ka mitte vastamine, vaid mitte hoolimine vist eks?
23 March 2016 06:06
Margus Meigo replied to Harri Kingo's comment.
Millest ta laulab Harri, nii täielikult(pikalt), kuid ette nii kokkuvõtvalt kui saad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ubOws53UDw
Kas ta valetab?
Kas vale(vaikimine) siis on pahaduse vorme?
Kas ta valetab?
Kas vale(vaikimine) siis on pahaduse vorme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ubOws53UDw
23 March 2016 06:05
Margus Meigo commented on Maris Pihelgas's post.
Kas endiselt abi vaja, või leidsid inimesi juba ?
Mõlemal puhul oleks huvitatud, sest lisa kontaktid sobivad ja samas.. ehk saan aidata leida abi ka
Mõlemal puhul oleks huvitatud, sest lisa kontaktid sobivad ja samas.. ehk saan aidata leida abi ka
22 March 2016 22:30
Margus Meigo commented on Hull Kiilakas's post.
aa polnud sina, Kiilakas oli hoopis :)
22 March 2016 22:25
Margus Meigo commented on Hull Kiilakas's post.
Wau mida Sina kuulad : )
22 March 2016 22:25
Margus Meigo commented on James Robinson Cooper's post.
Group: Hippies, Healers, Lightworkers & Starseeds
I see22 March 2016 12:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
._ "and even more technical stupidity"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDFeStB0q4I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDFeStB0q4I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDFeStB0q4I
21 March 2016 20:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Featurelenght
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJHdOxgS-Vg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJHdOxgS-Vg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJHdOxgS-Vg
21 March 2016 20:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cTZOxO9e2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cTZOxO9e2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cTZOxO9e2g
21 March 2016 20:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
"I wonder if Pinchbeck was a bit self conscious in front of the camera. He seemed uncomfortable at times, and even forgot his gifts. Jodo may have intimidated him as well when he revealed secrets about Pinchbeck's personal life. Great video though! Amazing to see Jodo dig so deep so easily into Pinchbeck's life. "
"Because Pinchbek knows he can not fool him, like all his followers buying his new age bullshit. Dont forget that this guy was on the bus of the 2012 bullshit, he made a lot of money selling that crap."
"I wonder if Pinchbeck was a bit self conscious in front of the camera. He seemed uncomfortable at times, and even forgot his gifts. Jodo may have intimidated him as well when he revealed secrets about Pinchbeck's personal life. Great video though! Amazing to see Jodo dig so deep so easily into Pinchbeck's life. "
"Because Pinchbek knows he can not fool him, like all his followers buying his new age bullshit. Dont forget that this guy was on the bus of the 2012 bullshit, he made a lot of money selling that crap."
21 March 2016 20:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
. Jodorowsky takes this kid to school... (gay kid i should say..)
Alejandro Jodorowsky: "You broke all the normal rationality.. and you go deep in to Jung and all that... Why?"
"why do you smoke?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsHjdy8GvM4
Alejandro Jodorowsky: "You broke all the normal rationality.. and you go deep in to Jung and all that... Why?"
"why do you smoke?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsHjdy8GvM4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsHjdy8GvM4
21 March 2016 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMJxP78nnvY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMJxP78nnvY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMJxP78nnvY
21 March 2016 20:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"well.. and them we make a photo.. and then ... he just go away.. up to this day i not know what he wanted.."
21 March 2016 20:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Looduse, ehk Looja Loodud Loomingu (tarvis) ravimitega siis
21 March 2016 12:35
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Ikkagi ma eisaa aru miks järjekindlalt neid Moslemitega seostatakse ?
See sama hea kui lipsu mehi ja pentagrammi kummardajaid Eestlasteks kutsuda ...jah, passis on, räägib kaudselt nagu oleks vahest.. vb isegi näeb välja nagu oleks.. aga kas tegelikult julgeb minna metsa ja seen üles korjata ja Jumalale vastu minna?
Oh.. ei ikka mudavam.. turvalisem läbi vaimsete vahendajate.. selle asemel, et oma keha sundida looduse ravimitega olukorda, kus Sul pole pääsu ja PEAD vastutama ja vastu võtma arusaame ja nägemusi kogu Loomingu suuruste keerdkäikudest
ikka jah mugavam.. sedasi ,et saad kohe ennast tagasi tõmmata... aga päris looja jalgevahe on sedasi ,et kui sees oled, siis oled sees, välja tõmmata ja põgeneda pole kuskile ja ainult nii palju vastu võttes kui suudad ausalt, garanteetib, et üldsetagasi tuled ja siia aega uuesti satud.
...aga jah.. .kergem kolmanda klassi tasemel koos käia ja rääkida vaimset juttu .. sedasi eemalt... selleasemel, et maailma ehitajatega plaani pidada, kuidas mis viigipuud pügada ja mis liiki piirata, keda kasta, keda kasta üle, lahti saamiseks ning millistest tolereerimistest tuleb lihtsalt lahti saada, koheselt kui aru saadud
Nagu suitsetamine ja riista imemine (suht sarnased asjad, suits vist hullem) - kui korra aru saanud millega tegu siis sa ei jätka veel moe pärast aegajalt sutsu põske võtmist, et nagu harjumusest, vaid aitad tekitada milliste iganes moodustega täielikud väljaheitesüsteemid endast, et eemalduda rõvedusest, ning argus ja pealiskaudsus on üks neist Meie jaoks rõvedatest asjadest, mida me ei tohi lubada teistes, kui seda lubame, siis see Nende ülemuse silmis kaasa aitamine ja meeskonnaga liitumine, vaikimine on Kuld, öeldakse, kuid ...
// /// /// lõikan ülekande siitmaalt ära, Jumal teab kuhu muidu välja jõuan, ja siis liialt pikk olles, ei loeta algustki, vaimset puhtust ka rohkem vaja, et pikemalt lasta... /// /// ///
See sama hea kui lipsu mehi ja pentagrammi kummardajaid Eestlasteks kutsuda ...jah, passis on, räägib kaudselt nagu oleks vahest.. vb isegi näeb välja nagu oleks.. aga kas tegelikult julgeb minna metsa ja seen üles korjata ja Jumalale vastu minna?
Oh.. ei ikka mudavam.. turvalisem läbi vaimsete vahendajate.. selle asemel, et oma keha sundida looduse ravimitega olukorda, kus Sul pole pääsu ja PEAD vastutama ja vastu võtma arusaame ja nägemusi kogu Loomingu suuruste keerdkäikudest
ikka jah mugavam.. sedasi ,et saad kohe ennast tagasi tõmmata... aga päris looja jalgevahe on sedasi ,et kui sees oled, siis oled sees, välja tõmmata ja põgeneda pole kuskile ja ainult nii palju vastu võttes kui suudad ausalt, garanteetib, et üldsetagasi tuled ja siia aega uuesti satud.
...aga jah.. .kergem kolmanda klassi tasemel koos käia ja rääkida vaimset juttu .. sedasi eemalt... selleasemel, et maailma ehitajatega plaani pidada, kuidas mis viigipuud pügada ja mis liiki piirata, keda kasta, keda kasta üle, lahti saamiseks ning millistest tolereerimistest tuleb lihtsalt lahti saada, koheselt kui aru saadud
Nagu suitsetamine ja riista imemine (suht sarnased asjad, suits vist hullem) - kui korra aru saanud millega tegu siis sa ei jätka veel moe pärast aegajalt sutsu põske võtmist, et nagu harjumusest, vaid aitad tekitada milliste iganes moodustega täielikud väljaheitesüsteemid endast, et eemalduda rõvedusest, ning argus ja pealiskaudsus on üks neist Meie jaoks rõvedatest asjadest, mida me ei tohi lubada teistes, kui seda lubame, siis see Nende ülemuse silmis kaasa aitamine ja meeskonnaga liitumine, vaikimine on Kuld, öeldakse, kuid ...
// /// /// lõikan ülekande siitmaalt ära, Jumal teab kuhu muidu välja jõuan, ja siis liialt pikk olles, ei loeta algustki, vaimset puhtust ka rohkem vaja, et pikemalt lasta... /// /// ///
21 March 2016 12:34
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Kord majas vähemalt
21 March 2016 12:24
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's photo.
tüüp teeb pildil Jidizidzut
21 March 2016 12:24
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's photo.
Ja meelega oma kalduvust ignoreerida, selle likvideerimisega mitte tegeleda, on ka patt
(meeldetuletuseks mugavatele)
(meeldetuletuseks mugavatele)
21 March 2016 12:23
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
lol, true that
but as business perspective, can be good!
If we got right kind of wings and balls
but as business perspective, can be good!
If we got right kind of wings and balls
21 March 2016 12:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ma teile siin ehitan,
Jumalale Tänu, et mõistlikumaid Vaimulike siin Eesti pundis piisavalt on, et mao-loputus korralikult korraldada
Jumalale Tänu, et mõistlikumaid Vaimulike siin Eesti pundis piisavalt on, et mao-loputus korralikult korraldada
21 March 2016 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja mis püramiid see selline on? Transa ja mundris marjonett (kah homo samamoodi kui kentsakaid riideid kannab, Vana Eestlaste silmis) hoiavad koos miskit matemaatikale põhinevat nagu oma vaimusünnituse last?
Selline pilt peaks olema seal kõige otsas, et mingitki reaalset väärtust ja tõde, see püramiid omaks, ja see on tõsi lugu, otse Ülemalt:
Olgem REAALSED, ärgem kaotage pead vennased ja Vennad
Ja muud seiklejad Seiklejate Vennaskond : )
Selline pilt peaks olema seal kõige otsas, et mingitki reaalset väärtust ja tõde, see püramiid omaks, ja see on tõsi lugu, otse Ülemalt:
Olgem REAALSED, ärgem kaotage pead vennased ja Vennad
Ja muud seiklejad Seiklejate Vennaskond : )
21 March 2016 12:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sõbralik Hans H. Luik selgitab olulisi asju veel millele korra fokuseerida, omast küljest: http://www.telegram.ee/arvamus/hans-h-luik-kas-vabamuurlased-on-uus-eus-ehk-kuidas-jagatakse-eestis-tippameteid
http://www.telegram.ee/arvamus/hans-h-luik-kas-vabamuurlased-on-uus-eus-ehk-kuidas-jagatakse-eestis-tippameteid
21 March 2016 11:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sünni poolt õõnsaid, st
„EELK seisukoht antud küsimuses on see, et Eesti Evangeelse Luterliku Kiriku kõik vaimulikud alluvad antud ametivande ja kirikuseadustikus ette nähtud korrale,“ ütles Arho Tuhkru EELK konsistooriumist. Ta rõhutas, et EELK seisukohast on erinevatesse organisatsioonidesse ja vabaühendustesse kuulumine vabatahtlik ja nende vabaühenduste põhikirjadest on alati ülimuslikud Eesti Vabariigi seadused.
http://www.telegram.ee/eesti/kirikuopetaja-jaan-tammsalu-vabamuurlaseks-olemine-ei-ole-taunitav
Muidugi kas sellest lausest ka aru saadakse, mida see erinevate ülemate, punaste pentagrammide ja kaose meeste silmis tähendab, ning kuidas nad saavad sellele vastata ""Tõsi, 100% Nõustun! " ja siis hoopis midagi muud teha, meile tunduvalt muud, sest ise vähe ennast harinud kuidas teised millise nurga alt keelekasutust, olukordi ja aega vaatavad ja tunnetavad, mida usuvad ja mida nad usuvad tulenevalt usu või teadmiste puudulikusest
„EELK seisukoht antud küsimuses on see, et Eesti Evangeelse Luterliku Kiriku kõik vaimulikud alluvad antud ametivande ja kirikuseadustikus ette nähtud korrale,“ ütles Arho Tuhkru EELK konsistooriumist. Ta rõhutas, et EELK seisukohast on erinevatesse organisatsioonidesse ja vabaühendustesse kuulumine vabatahtlik ja nende vabaühenduste põhikirjadest on alati ülimuslikud Eesti Vabariigi seadused.
http://www.telegram.ee/eesti/kirikuopetaja-jaan-tammsalu-vabamuurlaseks-olemine-ei-ole-taunitav
Muidugi kas sellest lausest ka aru saadakse, mida see erinevate ülemate, punaste pentagrammide ja kaose meeste silmis tähendab, ning kuidas nad saavad sellele vastata ""Tõsi, 100% Nõustun! " ja siis hoopis midagi muud teha, meile tunduvalt muud, sest ise vähe ennast harinud kuidas teised millise nurga alt keelekasutust, olukordi ja aega vaatavad ja tunnetavad, mida usuvad ja mida nad usuvad tulenevalt usu või teadmiste puudulikusest
21 March 2016 11:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
EELK le endale muidugi tuleks nõiajahti pidada, eks siis omasi pekstes tekitad kaitse ka nende vastu kes tegelikult kerepeale anda sooviks, ja küll see keretäis tuleb kui liiga ära uinutakse arusaamadega, et siin maal PEAB tegema asju, mitte "pole vahet mida teed" - ja me räägime siinkohal päris usust, võttes arvesse hingede tehaseid, nö õõnesmaad ja muid õõnsaid kõrvade vahesi ka
http://www.telegram.ee/eesti/30-eelk-vaimulikku-on-alustanud-vabamuurlastele-noiajahti
http://www.telegram.ee/eesti/30-eelk-vaimulikku-on-alustanud-vabamuurlastele-noiajahti
http://www.telegram.ee/eesti/30-eelk-vaimulikku-on-alustanud-vabamuurlastele-noiajahti
21 March 2016 11:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://alkeemia.delfi.ee/hallokosmos/
http://alkeemia.delfi.ee/hallokosmos/
21 March 2016 11:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oih, see vana link, uus saade mis tulekul st.
Varsti siin listis olemas:
http://arhiiv.err.ee/seeria/hallo-kosmos/0/default/5/1
http://r2.err.ee/listing/8E8B5A17-EE16-441E-941B-2A5FD69831EF#?page=1&pagesize=200&phrase=&from=&to=&path=8E8B5A17-EE16-441E-941B-2A5FD69831EF&showAll=false
Varsti siin listis olemas:
http://arhiiv.err.ee/seeria/hallo-kosmos/0/default/5/1
http://r2.err.ee/listing/8E8B5A17-EE16-441E-941B-2A5FD69831EF#?page=1&pagesize=200&phrase=&from=&to=&path=8E8B5A17-EE16-441E-941B-2A5FD69831EF&showAll=false
21 March 2016 11:47
Margus Meigo commented on Randy Myers's post.
Group: High IQ Dating (owned by the callidus society)
Thats just paranoia man , conspiracy, gossip.. I just keep waiting behind my desk... and waiting... and clicking... and waiting...
okay.. .eventually..21 March 2016 05:38
Margus Meigo commented on Pablo Rodmont Stark's post.
Group: High IQ Dating (owned by the callidus society)
Perhaps when one makes High Emotional Intelligence group then...21 March 2016 05:37
Margus Meigo commented on Eva Lepik's post.
not funny
21 March 2016 04:23
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Talk's post.
Eraldi ajajoon, sõjaväe ajaforaadi koodis oli ka üks "Tallinn" või "Estonia" usa aadressiga.. pean korra uuesti üle vaatama...
21 March 2016 04:20
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
and so much cleaner when you have pure one : )
21 March 2016 04:19
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
true true
21 March 2016 04:18
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
kuid yea... nagu me kõik teame.. ku iseda tolereerid siis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX8szNPgrEs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX8szNPgrEs
21 March 2016 04:14
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Brainwashed ones get bored after reading third thing on the list as nothing funny or insulting does not appear to be there .. and on near the 140 character one starts to get really confused and attentions will pop to the first advertisement, mind will start fast "search escape from senses" programs, hand starts to fast kick around to hind some hyper-link that will take away form this confusion
Brainwave entrainment
Brainwave entrainment
21 March 2016 04:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX8szNPgrEs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX8szNPgrEs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX8szNPgrEs
21 March 2016 04:08
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
just their lyrics is kind of .. not so deep and enlightening (compared to ordinary youth groups like "manic street preachers" or even Katy Perry ) and music is not really uplifting spiritually after a while, not beneficial actually for species eventually once person is more aware.,. and fashion statement is also not something we would want to copy or the personal life morals.... but even with out these few things, with these few small quirks they still rock a shit out of most music groups ever excised by far
21 March 2016 04:07
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
true that
21 March 2016 04:01
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
ONly S is missing from a "Freedom FIghter" ... to read out anagram of terrorist from there...
terrorist confirmed
terrorist confirmed
21 March 2016 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
eks tulnarite mõttes me muidu sama väärtusega aint kasulikud veelajutiselt siin naiste vangis hoidmiseks, aga kui juba arenenumad hübriidid saavad täielikult õle võtta ja naised kõik nõus on karpides ja kabiinides elama...siis saab sünnitus laborit jooksutada ka väga väheste päris isaste elus hoidmisega...
21 March 2016 03:58
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Päris kerged huvide vahed jah
21 March 2016 03:56
Margus Meigo commented on Joto Laskov's photo.
King beard!
21 March 2016 03:55
Margus Meigo commented on Joto Laskov's photo.
priceless beard!
21 March 2016 03:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x4ce5y_psychedelic-experience_iluminati/1#video=x3tgsjf
http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x4ce5y_psychedelic-experience_iluminati/1#video=x3tgsjf
http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x4ce5y_psychedelic-experience_iluminati/1#video=x3tgsjf
21 March 2016 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MG5gFtZ3U8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MG5gFtZ3U8
21 March 2016 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and etc...
"One guy, one chemist.. can produce 10 million trips, mind changing trips of untraceable substance... on 78 hours.."
ONE gram is 10 000 ... 40 000 dosages.. or more..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU0XR4NZIHM
"One guy, one chemist.. can produce 10 million trips, mind changing trips of untraceable substance... on 78 hours.."
ONE gram is 10 000 ... 40 000 dosages.. or more..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU0XR4NZIHM
21 March 2016 02:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwKw9wNSfx8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwKw9wNSfx8
21 March 2016 02:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l90LMpSJM4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l90LMpSJM4
21 March 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHR2KNZg8q0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHR2KNZg8q0
21 March 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqSyfsOCFWs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqSyfsOCFWs
21 March 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Wonder what is this music meaning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2hC6yBng4I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2hC6yBng4I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2hC6yBng4I
21 March 2016 02:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ei saa vist jaah...
aga ükskord.. istutan end sinna ka!
Et must saaks kasvada, see õige sammal
aga ükskord.. istutan end sinna ka!
Et must saaks kasvada, see õige sammal
20 March 2016 08:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Celtic knots, called Icovellavna, are a variety of knots and stylized graphical representations of knots used for decoration, used extensively in the Celtic style of Insular art. These knots are most known for their adaptation for use in the ornamentation of Christian monuments and manuscripts, such as the 8th-century St. Teilo Gospels, the Book of Kells and the Lindisfarne Gospels.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_knot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_knot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_knot
20 March 2016 08:13
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
Microsoft will connect us all again : )
After all they have cross in their image
After all they have cross in their image
20 March 2016 07:55
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
o boy :D
20 March 2016 07:54
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's photo.
How You now?
I heard You almost died again ?
I heard You almost died again ?
20 March 2016 07:49
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's post.
hahaha :D
20 March 2016 07:48
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's post.
but yea, their heart is so good
20 March 2016 07:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and some other beasts will say "And tastier also"
20 March 2016 07:46
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's post.
I am sure this pig is cleaner then most of the anarchist : )
20 March 2016 07:45
Margus Meigo replied to Mehwish Qayum's comment.
:)
Muah!
Muah!
20 March 2016 07:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
OKey, they do got few points but still:..
CONCERNING THE WRITINGS OF
FATHER ANTHONY DE MELLO, SJ
The Indian Jesuit priest, Father Anthony de Mello (1931-1987) is well known due to his numerous publications which, translated into various languages, have been widely circulated in many countries of the world, though not all of these texts were authorized by him for publication. His works, which almost always take the form of brief stories, contain some valid elements of oriental wisdom. These can be helpful in achieving self-mastery, in breaking the bonds and feelings that keep us from being free, and in approaching with serenity the various vicissitudes of life. Especially in his early writings, Father de Mello, while revealing the influence of Buddhist and Taoist spiritual currents, remained within the lines of Christian spirituality. In these books, he treats the different kinds of prayer: petition, intercession and praise, as well as contemplation of the mysteries of the life of Christ, etc.
But already in certain passages in these early works and to a greater degree in his later publications, one notices a progressive distancing from the essential contents of the Christian faith. In place of the revelation which has come in the person of Jesus Christ, he substitutes an intuition of God without form or image, to the point of speaking of God as a pure void. To see God it is enough to look directly at the world. Nothing can be said about God; the only knowing is unknowing. To pose the question of his existence is already nonsense. This radical apophaticism leads even to a denial that the Bible contains valid statements about God. The words of Scripture are indications which serve only to lead a person to silence. In other passages, the judgment on sacred religious texts, not excluding the Bible, becomes even more severe: they are said to prevent people from following their own common sense and cause them to become obtuse and cruel. Religions, including Christianity, are one of the major obstacles to the discovery of truth. This truth, however, is never defined by the author in its precise contents. For him, to think that the God of one's own religion is the only one is simply fanaticism. "God" is considered as a cosmic reality, vague and omnipresent; the personal nature of God is ignored and in practice denied.
Father de Mello demonstrates an appreciation for Jesus, of whom he declares himself to be a "disciple." But he considers Jesus as a master alongside others. The only difference from other men is that Jesus is "awake" and fully free, while others are not. Jesus is not recognized as the Son of God, but simply as the one who teaches us that all people are children of God. In addition, the author's statements on the final destiny of man give rise to perplexity. At one point, he speaks of a "dissolving" into the impersonal God, as salt dissolves in water. On various occasions, the question of destiny after death is declared to be irrelevant; only the present life should be of interest. With respect to this life, since evil is simply ignorance, there are no objective rules of morality. Good and evil are simply mental evaluations imposed upon reality.
Consistent with what has been presented, one can understand how, according to the author, any belief or profession of faith whether in God or in Christ cannot but impede one's personal access to truth. The Church, making the word of God in Holy Scripture into an idol, has ended up banishing God from the temple. She has consequently lost the authority to teach in the name of Christ.
With the present Notification, in order to protect the good of the Christian faithful, this Congregation declares that the above-mentioned positions are incompatible with the Catholic faith and can cause grave harm.
The Sovereign Pontiff John Paul II, at the Audience granted to the undersigned Cardinal Prefect, approved the present Notification, adopted in the Ordinary Session of this Congregation, and ordered its publication.
Rome, from the offices of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, June 24, 1998, the Solemnity of the Birth of John the Baptist.
+ Joseph Card. Ratzinger
Prefect
+ Tarcisio Bertone, S.D.B.
Archbishop Emeritus of Vercelli
Secretary
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19980624_demello_en.html
CONCERNING THE WRITINGS OF
FATHER ANTHONY DE MELLO, SJ
The Indian Jesuit priest, Father Anthony de Mello (1931-1987) is well known due to his numerous publications which, translated into various languages, have been widely circulated in many countries of the world, though not all of these texts were authorized by him for publication. His works, which almost always take the form of brief stories, contain some valid elements of oriental wisdom. These can be helpful in achieving self-mastery, in breaking the bonds and feelings that keep us from being free, and in approaching with serenity the various vicissitudes of life. Especially in his early writings, Father de Mello, while revealing the influence of Buddhist and Taoist spiritual currents, remained within the lines of Christian spirituality. In these books, he treats the different kinds of prayer: petition, intercession and praise, as well as contemplation of the mysteries of the life of Christ, etc.
But already in certain passages in these early works and to a greater degree in his later publications, one notices a progressive distancing from the essential contents of the Christian faith. In place of the revelation which has come in the person of Jesus Christ, he substitutes an intuition of God without form or image, to the point of speaking of God as a pure void. To see God it is enough to look directly at the world. Nothing can be said about God; the only knowing is unknowing. To pose the question of his existence is already nonsense. This radical apophaticism leads even to a denial that the Bible contains valid statements about God. The words of Scripture are indications which serve only to lead a person to silence. In other passages, the judgment on sacred religious texts, not excluding the Bible, becomes even more severe: they are said to prevent people from following their own common sense and cause them to become obtuse and cruel. Religions, including Christianity, are one of the major obstacles to the discovery of truth. This truth, however, is never defined by the author in its precise contents. For him, to think that the God of one's own religion is the only one is simply fanaticism. "God" is considered as a cosmic reality, vague and omnipresent; the personal nature of God is ignored and in practice denied.
Father de Mello demonstrates an appreciation for Jesus, of whom he declares himself to be a "disciple." But he considers Jesus as a master alongside others. The only difference from other men is that Jesus is "awake" and fully free, while others are not. Jesus is not recognized as the Son of God, but simply as the one who teaches us that all people are children of God. In addition, the author's statements on the final destiny of man give rise to perplexity. At one point, he speaks of a "dissolving" into the impersonal God, as salt dissolves in water. On various occasions, the question of destiny after death is declared to be irrelevant; only the present life should be of interest. With respect to this life, since evil is simply ignorance, there are no objective rules of morality. Good and evil are simply mental evaluations imposed upon reality.
Consistent with what has been presented, one can understand how, according to the author, any belief or profession of faith whether in God or in Christ cannot but impede one's personal access to truth. The Church, making the word of God in Holy Scripture into an idol, has ended up banishing God from the temple. She has consequently lost the authority to teach in the name of Christ.
With the present Notification, in order to protect the good of the Christian faithful, this Congregation declares that the above-mentioned positions are incompatible with the Catholic faith and can cause grave harm.
The Sovereign Pontiff John Paul II, at the Audience granted to the undersigned Cardinal Prefect, approved the present Notification, adopted in the Ordinary Session of this Congregation, and ordered its publication.
Rome, from the offices of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, June 24, 1998, the Solemnity of the Birth of John the Baptist.
+ Joseph Card. Ratzinger
Prefect
+ Tarcisio Bertone, S.D.B.
Archbishop Emeritus of Vercelli
Secretary
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19980624_demello_en.html
20 March 2016 07:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsPRBsz5tYI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsPRBsz5tYI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsPRBsz5tYI
20 March 2016 07:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Healthy person does not miss a humans, healthy person is busy at exploring the world"
20 March 2016 07:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"Loneliness is not cured by contact of human beings, but with contact of reality"
"Spirituality is ...
"Spirituality is ...
20 March 2016 07:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
And on background music, same time:
(regulate sound levels, so 2 can play same time in nice way)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=637wHj_E3Lo
(regulate sound levels, so 2 can play same time in nice way)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=637wHj_E3Lo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=637wHj_E3Lo
20 March 2016 06:52
Margus Meigo commented on Bechir Betoumi's post.
Who is he ?
20 March 2016 06:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Video 2, minut 13:50: https://youtu.be/hjEgnHxx6E8?list=PLyQ_6bTWSnxcghbU-gqCy6Wvo-4C1FxDn&t=823
https://youtu.be/hjEgnHxx6E8?list=PLyQ_6bTWSnxcghbU-gqCy6Wvo-4C1FxDn&t=823
20 March 2016 06:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvVvCAY4XSA&list=PLyQ_6bTWSnxcghbU-gqCy6Wvo-4C1FxDn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvVvCAY4XSA&list=PLyQ_6bTWSnxcghbU-gqCy6Wvo-4C1FxDn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvVvCAY4XSA&list=PLyQ_6bTWSnxcghbU-gqCy6Wvo-4C1FxDn
20 March 2016 06:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nu valmis oljed või ei olje no..
20 March 2016 03:27
Margus Meigo commented on Carol Iila's post.
Söö natukene maagilisi seeni, looduses, siis näed, et keegi nii pisike.. ei saa ju ometi Sinu elu rikkuda sedasi nii noorest peast, kui nad sind just vere rituaalile ei meelitnaud kus oma hinge ära kaotasid musta maagia ja tulnukate trikitamise läbi... siis jah.. häbi häbi neile kes seda tegid..
19 March 2016 08:23
Margus Meigo commented on Jack Fox's post.
did she just swallow the ball
18 March 2016 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on Roberto Fox's post.
Is she in to drugs also _?
18 March 2016 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on Roberto Fox's post.
Danny Barnes...mmmm bag !
We did find my bag at least in the end!
We did find my bag at least in the end!
18 March 2016 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to James Alford's comment.
As You can see i am totally alright
18 March 2016 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to James Alford's comment.
But we can still talk about weed and conspiracy theories and about aliens living inside Earth that is probably bigger then the earth outside, by a Lot
Just wanna make sure
I keep telling my mate, that only these police and other evil doers should be eliminated with 1200 micro-grams of LSD injected, at least, who forgot their place to serve God
That includes Robert as well
Just wanna make sure
I keep telling my mate, that only these police and other evil doers should be eliminated with 1200 micro-grams of LSD injected, at least, who forgot their place to serve God
That includes Robert as well
18 March 2016 03:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.. ja muidugi ka.. pea meeles.. et .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzTH013S7kQ&index=46&list=LL6o8o6UBVbYSA-P7b5y3GVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzTH013S7kQ&index=46&list=LL6o8o6UBVbYSA-P7b5y3GVw
17 March 2016 23:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Many other worth to see videos here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/WayseerNews/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/WayseerNews/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/WayseerNews/videos
17 March 2016 23:34
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Taking in to account, that they owning most of the highest technology and greatest powerstuctures.. cant be to stupid....in the end, once we learn :)
17 March 2016 23:30
Margus Meigo commented on John Ishvaradas Abdallah's post.
Group: World Without Borders Interfaith Sufi Ashram
We should progress from sily "rights" talk and go under
Matriarchy
as this is only way it has been and WILL be
original of God plan, original of Jew life17 March 2016 18:48
Margus Meigo commented on Kärt Mere's post.
Oleneb kapist
17 March 2016 18:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Revised December 18, 2015
The Hatch Act: Frequently Asked Questions
on Federal Employees and the Use of
Social Media and Email
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/resource_library/hatch_act_and_social_media.pdf
Family and MWR Command
Provide an overview of Army Family Readiness Group
(FRG) operations and highlight potential Ethics issues.
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/resource_library/deskbook/family_readiness_groups_ppt.pdf
The Hatch Act: Frequently Asked Questions
on Federal Employees and the Use of
Social Media and Email
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/resource_library/hatch_act_and_social_media.pdf
Family and MWR Command
Provide an overview of Army Family Readiness Group
(FRG) operations and highlight potential Ethics issues.
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/resource_library/deskbook/family_readiness_groups_ppt.pdf
17 March 2016 18:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ethics Resources on the Web
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/resource_library/resourcesindex.html
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/resource_library/resourcesindex.html
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/resource_library/resourcesindex.html
17 March 2016 18:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE
Ethics Counselor Course Deskbook
October 2015
1
FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE
RUNNING AN EFFECTIVE PROGRAM
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/resource_library/deskbook/financial_disclosure_program.pdf
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/resource_library/deskbook/advanced_financial_disclosure.pdf
Ethics Counselor Course Deskbook
October 2015
1
FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE
RUNNING AN EFFECTIVE PROGRAM
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/resource_library/deskbook/financial_disclosure_program.pdf
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/resource_library/deskbook/advanced_financial_disclosure.pdf
17 March 2016 18:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/resource_library/soco_advisories.htm
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/advisories/2010_advisories/adv_index.htm
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/advisories/2010_advisories/adv_index.htm
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/resource_library/soco_advisories.htm
17 March 2016 18:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
To view only the latest entries, see http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/dod_oge/eef_new_adds.pdf. These summaries of various ethical misadventures provide useful teaching aides - but should not be cited as authoritative guidance, DoD policy or law.
17 March 2016 18:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
good stories there like:
"Don’t Play Attorney Against Your Federal Employer!
The Facts:
In the “off
-time” from her work with the Social Security Administration, a
senior attorney opened her own legal practice and represented clients with claims against that
very same Administration. For her double
-duty, she was sued by a U.S. Attorney and ended up
agreein
g to a settlement that required her to pay the United States $113,000 for this and other
violations
—not a typical attorney’s fee!
(Source: Office of Government Ethics memorandum, Oct. 2002)
90
The Law:
18 U.S.C. § 205 (2003) forbids any current Federal employee from acting as
an attorney in prosecuting a claim against the United States
—where this is not performed as part
of his or her official duties for the Federal Government. For any such violation, the law
authorizes fines and possible imprisonment
—of n
ot more than one year, unless the conduct is
“willful,” in which case it can be for up to 5 years (
see
18 U.S.C. § 216(a))"
well.. she got a balls.. or no brain, another side would say
"Don’t Play Attorney Against Your Federal Employer!
The Facts:
In the “off
-time” from her work with the Social Security Administration, a
senior attorney opened her own legal practice and represented clients with claims against that
very same Administration. For her double
-duty, she was sued by a U.S. Attorney and ended up
agreein
g to a settlement that required her to pay the United States $113,000 for this and other
violations
—not a typical attorney’s fee!
(Source: Office of Government Ethics memorandum, Oct. 2002)
90
The Law:
18 U.S.C. § 205 (2003) forbids any current Federal employee from acting as
an attorney in prosecuting a claim against the United States
—where this is not performed as part
of his or her official duties for the Federal Government. For any such violation, the law
authorizes fines and possible imprisonment
—of n
ot more than one year, unless the conduct is
“willful,” in which case it can be for up to 5 years (
see
18 U.S.C. § 216(a))"
well.. she got a balls.. or no brain, another side would say
17 March 2016 18:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Encyclopedia of Ethical Failures
... daughter, who was an employee of the company; her daughter set up a secret
meeting between the official and company executives. ...
www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/dod_oge/eef_complete.pdf
... daughter, who was an employee of the company; her daughter set up a secret
meeting between the official and company executives. ...
www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/dod_oge/eef_complete.pdf
17 March 2016 17:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey.. most pages are .."Service Unavailable - DNS failure":.. but still
17 March 2016 17:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i do like the openess thought.. thats why they will stay superior
"The Department of Defense (DoD) General Counsel welcomes you to this web site. We invite you to use this resource to understand the ethical standards that apply to every DoD employee, both civilian and military.
The General Counsel is also the DoD Designated Agency Ethics Official (DAEO) who oversees the ethics and standards of conduct programs throughout DoD, including providing guidance to the Army, Navy, Air Force, and DoD Agencies. These responsibilities are carried out through the DoD Standards of Conduct Office (SOCO), a part of the Defense Legal Services Agency"
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/
"The Department of Defense (DoD) General Counsel welcomes you to this web site. We invite you to use this resource to understand the ethical standards that apply to every DoD employee, both civilian and military.
The General Counsel is also the DoD Designated Agency Ethics Official (DAEO) who oversees the ethics and standards of conduct programs throughout DoD, including providing guidance to the Army, Navy, Air Force, and DoD Agencies. These responsibilities are carried out through the DoD Standards of Conduct Office (SOCO), a part of the Defense Legal Services Agency"
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/
17 March 2016 17:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"We could not find the speed test results. Maybe you misspelled the URL? "
Maybe YOU website give me an wrong URL... screw ya
Maybe YOU website give me an wrong URL... screw ya
17 March 2016 17:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
totally not related but for future note, list of 34 800 companies who have get more then 25 000 award from a dod, 0.87 billion in minimum calculation but in reality..
text versioN: http://dsearch.dtic.mil/search?q=cache:XKmBvLRl2PIJ:www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/resource_library/contractor_list.pdf+defence&client=soco&output=xml_no_dtd&proxystylesheet=soco&ie=UTF-8&num=100&site=soco&access=p&oe=UTF-8
PDF versioN:
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/resource_library/contractor_list.pdf
Just if someone needs a reliable company to work with.. good list to pick
text versioN: http://dsearch.dtic.mil/search?q=cache:XKmBvLRl2PIJ:www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/resource_library/contractor_list.pdf+defence&client=soco&output=xml_no_dtd&proxystylesheet=soco&ie=UTF-8&num=100&site=soco&access=p&oe=UTF-8
PDF versioN:
http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/resource_library/contractor_list.pdf
Just if someone needs a reliable company to work with.. good list to pick
17 March 2016 17:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ON 5 y ago, at least people was able to bring some comparisons, to make near meaningful thoughts:
"Akamai (s AKAM), a Cambridge, Mass.-based content delivery network, today said that at peak it was sending 3.45 terabits per second of data on Friday. This is the highest amount of data it’s ever sent over the Akamai network. The traffic peak of 3.45 Tbps is roughly equivalent to the capacity needed to download the entire printed contents of the U.S. Library of Congress in less than a minute.
That’s not all. The Akamai network hit a brand-new peak for video streaming on Friday — thanks in large part to a big surge in demand for professional golf and baseball video streams. Over the course of the day, Akamai logged more than 500 billion requests for content, a sum equal to serving content to every human once every 20 minutes.
At peak, Akamai supported more than 12 million requests per second –- a rate roughly equivalent to serving content to the entire population of the U.S. every 30 seconds, the company said.
“This new peak demand demonstrates the Internet’s emergence as a primary channel for communications, entertainment, and commerce,” Paul Sagan, Akamai’s president and CEO, said in a statement."
// still lacking some parts but at least.. at least..
https://gigaom.com/2010/04/11/akamai-3-4-terabits/
"Akamai (s AKAM), a Cambridge, Mass.-based content delivery network, today said that at peak it was sending 3.45 terabits per second of data on Friday. This is the highest amount of data it’s ever sent over the Akamai network. The traffic peak of 3.45 Tbps is roughly equivalent to the capacity needed to download the entire printed contents of the U.S. Library of Congress in less than a minute.
That’s not all. The Akamai network hit a brand-new peak for video streaming on Friday — thanks in large part to a big surge in demand for professional golf and baseball video streams. Over the course of the day, Akamai logged more than 500 billion requests for content, a sum equal to serving content to every human once every 20 minutes.
At peak, Akamai supported more than 12 million requests per second –- a rate roughly equivalent to serving content to the entire population of the U.S. every 30 seconds, the company said.
“This new peak demand demonstrates the Internet’s emergence as a primary channel for communications, entertainment, and commerce,” Paul Sagan, Akamai’s president and CEO, said in a statement."
// still lacking some parts but at least.. at least..
https://gigaom.com/2010/04/11/akamai-3-4-terabits/
https://gigaom.com/2010/04/11/akamai-3-4-terabits/
17 March 2016 17:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// and if that does not tick one off enough then read the end of the sentence
"To work in practice, Giga will require not only end-user devices such as computers and phones but also the servers of companies supplying data to support the protocol. Knox says Akamai plans to openly release the technology to encourage broad adoption in the Internet industry. The company is aiming to combine it with QUIC, software developed by Google that can make certain types of Internet traffic, such as streaming video, faster.
Google offered up QUIC to the Internet’s standards body, the IETF, last year. The technology is already built into the Chrome browser and Google’s own services, and the company reported last summer that YouTube users using Chrome were 30 percent less likely to experience video buffering as a result. ....
// really... at least You are able to link to googles "QUIC" .. at least.. their page is not retarded in there at first sight
https://www.chromium.org/quic
QUIC is a new transport which reduces latency compared to that of TCP. On the surface, QUIC is very similar to TCP+TLS+HTTP/2 implemented on UDP. Because TCP is implement in operating system kernels, and middlebox firmware, making significant changes to TCP is next to impossible. However, since QUIC is built on top of UDP, it suffers from no such limitations.
Key features of QUIC over existing TCP+TLS+HTTP2 include
Dramatically reduced connection establishment time
Improved congestion control
Multiplexing without head of line blocking
Forward error correction
Connection migration
Documentation
QUIC overview
QUIC FAQ
QUIC wire specification
QUIC crypto design doc
Getting started with the QUIC toy client and server
QUIC tech talk
QUIC Discovery
QUIC FEC v1
IETF Material
QUIC: A UDP-Based Secure and Reliable Transport for HTTP/2 (draft-tsvwg-quic-protocol)
QUIC Loss Recovery And Congestion Control (draft-tsvwg-quic-loss-recovery)
Presentations from the IETF-93 BarBoF on QUIC (Video)
"To work in practice, Giga will require not only end-user devices such as computers and phones but also the servers of companies supplying data to support the protocol. Knox says Akamai plans to openly release the technology to encourage broad adoption in the Internet industry. The company is aiming to combine it with QUIC, software developed by Google that can make certain types of Internet traffic, such as streaming video, faster.
Google offered up QUIC to the Internet’s standards body, the IETF, last year. The technology is already built into the Chrome browser and Google’s own services, and the company reported last summer that YouTube users using Chrome were 30 percent less likely to experience video buffering as a result. ....
// really... at least You are able to link to googles "QUIC" .. at least.. their page is not retarded in there at first sight
https://www.chromium.org/quic
QUIC is a new transport which reduces latency compared to that of TCP. On the surface, QUIC is very similar to TCP+TLS+HTTP/2 implemented on UDP. Because TCP is implement in operating system kernels, and middlebox firmware, making significant changes to TCP is next to impossible. However, since QUIC is built on top of UDP, it suffers from no such limitations.
Key features of QUIC over existing TCP+TLS+HTTP2 include
Dramatically reduced connection establishment time
Improved congestion control
Multiplexing without head of line blocking
Forward error correction
Connection migration
Documentation
QUIC overview
QUIC FAQ
QUIC wire specification
QUIC crypto design doc
Getting started with the QUIC toy client and server
QUIC tech talk
QUIC Discovery
QUIC FEC v1
IETF Material
QUIC: A UDP-Based Secure and Reliable Transport for HTTP/2 (draft-tsvwg-quic-protocol)
QUIC Loss Recovery And Congestion Control (draft-tsvwg-quic-loss-recovery)
Presentations from the IETF-93 BarBoF on QUIC (Video)
https://www.chromium.org/quic
17 March 2016 17:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
//And this percent talk comes from MIT... seriously.
" Giga is a replacement for TCP, a protocol for transporting data first published in 1974, which still underpins the Internet and which is overdue for an upgrade, says Knox. “A lot of the core protocols we use to deliver content haven’t evolved much—we’re going to need new technologies to bring this into the future,” said Knox.
Giga includes several improvements on TCP that can squeeze better performance out of existing Internet connections. One does a better job of detecting whether the route to a person trying to access data is at capacity or not. TCP often incorrectly assumes connections are full when they in fact have unused capacity, Knox says. Another speed-boosting trick built into Giga encodes data into electronic packets in a new way that reduces dropped links if a connection wavers. "
// okey where is links to technical data and technical data simplified ?
how is even legal for this level people to keep writing so un informative pieces ?
" Giga is a replacement for TCP, a protocol for transporting data first published in 1974, which still underpins the Internet and which is overdue for an upgrade, says Knox. “A lot of the core protocols we use to deliver content haven’t evolved much—we’re going to need new technologies to bring this into the future,” said Knox.
Giga includes several improvements on TCP that can squeeze better performance out of existing Internet connections. One does a better job of detecting whether the route to a person trying to access data is at capacity or not. TCP often incorrectly assumes connections are full when they in fact have unused capacity, Knox says. Another speed-boosting trick built into Giga encodes data into electronic packets in a new way that reduces dropped links if a connection wavers. "
// okey where is links to technical data and technical data simplified ?
how is even legal for this level people to keep writing so un informative pieces ?
17 March 2016 17:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Akamai operates a giant global network of more than 200,000 servers that ISPs and companies such as Facebook use to move data around.
On Thursday the company shared results from tests of a technology code-named Giga that proved able to move data on average 30 percent faster than the company can today.
// 30 from WHERE??? And entire article keeps talking about this 30.. 3.. pissing me off. WHAT DATA?
anyway...
Kit Knox, vice president for media engineering at Akamai, said Thursday that his company wants to release the technology in the hope that it will be adopted as standard.
// okey fair enough
Tests in India, China, and Bolivia showed improvements of more than 150 percent—although those in some other places, like Germany, over its ISP Deutsche Telekom’s network, yielded an improvement of only a few percentage points.
// again these percents.. what is wrong with a people ? Seriously.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/546001/upgrade-to-core-internet-protocol-can-boost-speeds-30-percent/
On Thursday the company shared results from tests of a technology code-named Giga that proved able to move data on average 30 percent faster than the company can today.
// 30 from WHERE??? And entire article keeps talking about this 30.. 3.. pissing me off. WHAT DATA?
anyway...
Kit Knox, vice president for media engineering at Akamai, said Thursday that his company wants to release the technology in the hope that it will be adopted as standard.
// okey fair enough
Tests in India, China, and Bolivia showed improvements of more than 150 percent—although those in some other places, like Germany, over its ISP Deutsche Telekom’s network, yielded an improvement of only a few percentage points.
// again these percents.. what is wrong with a people ? Seriously.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/546001/upgrade-to-core-internet-protocol-can-boost-speeds-30-percent/
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/546001/upgrade-to-core-internet-protocol-can-boost-speeds-30-percent/
17 March 2016 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
Please mark, paitshop out the Pentagrams from the pictures, even if it is still integrated in to a flag.
We mast start stop this evil, this does not help if we promote it in whatever way , it should be painted out in a way that we can see, that it is done, so it will power people
We mast start stop this evil, this does not help if we promote it in whatever way , it should be painted out in a way that we can see, that it is done, so it will power people
17 March 2016 17:16
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's post.
mjeaa
16 March 2016 04:02
Margus Meigo commented on Olly Siochana's photo.
goatboy
16 March 2016 04:01
Margus Meigo replied to Oliver Olku's comment.
Group: Tutvus Soomes. Meet People In Finland.
selles osas mul kaleriis EU minig eesti esindamise pildid olid, kui EU president kätt surus jms16 March 2016 00:05
Margus Meigo replied to Oliver Olku's comment.
Group: Tutvus Soomes. Meet People In Finland.
2011 vist viimanekord,16 March 2016 00:05
Margus Meigo replied to Wilfrid Sekabarga's comment.
Group: Tutvus Soomes. Meet People In Finland.
are you serious ?16 March 2016 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to Maryam Vela's comment.
hey guys do you know who was that idiot who thought aout the idea of democrazy, where you make political system, where one side is up and other side works all four years hard to pull other one down, and then other one is up... and same time you MUST keep your opponents alive, so they can destroy you .. what a f is that, this is so retarded that am not even sure how retarded it is , but a lot
15 March 2016 22:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but as human energy is worth so much, even the drunkard ...
well i stop in here, can step by step lay down entire plan and foundation of whole human situations how would be best, fastest way to end up in a perfection by same time preserving and expanding history worth's in all direction of time space
as you know monkey, in circles, time does not freaking move, you do!
So to get a full picture you can not go from one place to another, but you need to expand all the places at same time in co-operation,
elementary, innit
well i stop in here, can step by step lay down entire plan and foundation of whole human situations how would be best, fastest way to end up in a perfection by same time preserving and expanding history worth's in all direction of time space
as you know monkey, in circles, time does not freaking move, you do!
So to get a full picture you can not go from one place to another, but you need to expand all the places at same time in co-operation,
elementary, innit
15 March 2016 15:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
in in company pride, it should be kind of privilege to work in there, and at times it should be a privilege the some humans work in there .. but it should be easily understandable, that they work on same spiritual goal and idea, that they do care naturally about each other family, feelings and love life,
who needs a robots on a human payroll?
who needs a robots on a human payroll?
15 March 2016 15:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and is criminal to pay so little to someone ,that one is not able to hold up 3 family members at least with that amount.
As if nearly everyone have to go to work outside of home to keep "bills paid" this is so sub human, that am not even have words in vocabulary to describe that.
if You cant afford to pay proper why You even imagine Yourself to have a business, it is called slave camp if You just keep someone in so short string that they can kind of survive but can not afford to run away
As if nearly everyone have to go to work outside of home to keep "bills paid" this is so sub human, that am not even have words in vocabulary to describe that.
if You cant afford to pay proper why You even imagine Yourself to have a business, it is called slave camp if You just keep someone in so short string that they can kind of survive but can not afford to run away
15 March 2016 15:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Things we should worry about, is their work conditions,
is the workers lied about, are they abused, is best what company can offered to them that is average market value at least in that income size corporation... so the humans will not get more broken, abused or retarded. But to hire only blondes or the ones who even make sexual service - it is evil to fight against these kind of things. It is a businesses business. As long they not hurt humans as they will not own a humans (well, this also will change soon as corporations will start to produce their own versions of humans but as the original code is not owned by them... i guess they might not get to much right on any offspring's if we keep alien-communists out of legislation that push these moves on copyrighting genes that pass on offspring's )
I think it is a bit more terrible that great amount of city corporations are more focused on human deep slavery, soul and energy stealing byt 3rd party not seen to humans them self.
It is kind of like humans are told to do to chickens and cows for starters, so the same thing is allowed to do to humans,
as humans them self also agree with a law
and it is also written down long time ago.. what you do will be done to you, and no human can bitch about "oo the beings with IQ of few zeros more then us, tricked us in to thinking that we want and need it..."
well ,did You ever ask from a dog how he feels to be tied up or how about feelings of a pig ? ... You know there was special ones who can communicate to animals and we can see and interpret their feelings.. there is story's about how we all was long time ago communicating and how we will be again in future..
but we all ignored that, as "it looked like a bollocks", the "child's stuff, fantasy" to a guy with IQ below 150, that is still so low that it consider one self to be superior to a horse and other birds in virtually all arias.... but they will most likely frees their but of if they have to stay with a one wife in middle of woods, bare handed.
(no, tools and systems of hiring others to do work is not natural part of a human as a legs and eyes are, this is extra, ... but what can You do with your hand.. soon, most of yo people... yes, the one with better genes can, ... of-course all that theory, will be blown a pieces about lower and higher humans if the lower ones will have access to consciousness rising tools and needed energy fields.. . with proper guidance, ... these test shall be published in future times, to once and for all to make sure, is there more value in certain kind of human versions ... but before that we have to make sure we know all the links and possible implications of so called star-sings, numerologists , soul plants and animals, ancient relations to one or another civilizations, upbringing, spiritual cleanness, structurally changed food and non our dimensional beings possible finale help that is bragged about .... then... we can see.. over and over again, can people with no deeper values, start to have values easy, and is it more easy to make new versions then to covert messed up ones to a clean state of mind if there is evident that no original extra value will not be transferred from these genes after conversion in to "proper human" )
is the workers lied about, are they abused, is best what company can offered to them that is average market value at least in that income size corporation... so the humans will not get more broken, abused or retarded. But to hire only blondes or the ones who even make sexual service - it is evil to fight against these kind of things. It is a businesses business. As long they not hurt humans as they will not own a humans (well, this also will change soon as corporations will start to produce their own versions of humans but as the original code is not owned by them... i guess they might not get to much right on any offspring's if we keep alien-communists out of legislation that push these moves on copyrighting genes that pass on offspring's )
I think it is a bit more terrible that great amount of city corporations are more focused on human deep slavery, soul and energy stealing byt 3rd party not seen to humans them self.
It is kind of like humans are told to do to chickens and cows for starters, so the same thing is allowed to do to humans,
as humans them self also agree with a law
and it is also written down long time ago.. what you do will be done to you, and no human can bitch about "oo the beings with IQ of few zeros more then us, tricked us in to thinking that we want and need it..."
well ,did You ever ask from a dog how he feels to be tied up or how about feelings of a pig ? ... You know there was special ones who can communicate to animals and we can see and interpret their feelings.. there is story's about how we all was long time ago communicating and how we will be again in future..
but we all ignored that, as "it looked like a bollocks", the "child's stuff, fantasy" to a guy with IQ below 150, that is still so low that it consider one self to be superior to a horse and other birds in virtually all arias.... but they will most likely frees their but of if they have to stay with a one wife in middle of woods, bare handed.
(no, tools and systems of hiring others to do work is not natural part of a human as a legs and eyes are, this is extra, ... but what can You do with your hand.. soon, most of yo people... yes, the one with better genes can, ... of-course all that theory, will be blown a pieces about lower and higher humans if the lower ones will have access to consciousness rising tools and needed energy fields.. . with proper guidance, ... these test shall be published in future times, to once and for all to make sure, is there more value in certain kind of human versions ... but before that we have to make sure we know all the links and possible implications of so called star-sings, numerologists , soul plants and animals, ancient relations to one or another civilizations, upbringing, spiritual cleanness, structurally changed food and non our dimensional beings possible finale help that is bragged about .... then... we can see.. over and over again, can people with no deeper values, start to have values easy, and is it more easy to make new versions then to covert messed up ones to a clean state of mind if there is evident that no original extra value will not be transferred from these genes after conversion in to "proper human" )
15 March 2016 15:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and to look that, well, in real way.
i cant see to much wrong with it anything to be as this sounds like restriction of freedom to force someone that they must hire, in to their own company something of everything what they think they do not need. If someone only need redhead,s Tauruses or the ones with a best smile am can see it to be bad way fascist the not allow them to do selection like that.,
...everyone in a small business understands it, when they want to hire who they like.. and if they have to hire someone they do not like then they feel suppressed... but if in the end it matters not, who is working, as long someone who is needed working why to force on the "you must hire any kind of demon child or genes that our research show does not work well in our climate in specific conditions" - if there can be like that.
Most likely if they do make mistake on their selection, eg make wrong restrictions then they just die out.
When it is public transportation, then perhaps yes, it is to much to say, only gingers are allowed here, but most of the other private sectors.. why force fascism and negative anti-racism to a corporations by regulating who they can or can not hire or how.
Things we should worry about, is their work conditions,
i cant see to much wrong with it anything to be as this sounds like restriction of freedom to force someone that they must hire, in to their own company something of everything what they think they do not need. If someone only need redhead,s Tauruses or the ones with a best smile am can see it to be bad way fascist the not allow them to do selection like that.,
...everyone in a small business understands it, when they want to hire who they like.. and if they have to hire someone they do not like then they feel suppressed... but if in the end it matters not, who is working, as long someone who is needed working why to force on the "you must hire any kind of demon child or genes that our research show does not work well in our climate in specific conditions" - if there can be like that.
Most likely if they do make mistake on their selection, eg make wrong restrictions then they just die out.
When it is public transportation, then perhaps yes, it is to much to say, only gingers are allowed here, but most of the other private sectors.. why force fascism and negative anti-racism to a corporations by regulating who they can or can not hire or how.
Things we should worry about, is their work conditions,
15 March 2016 15:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This was from a Microsoft website directly, for sure there is many places that look genetic information starting from special clubs and closed projects that are not public. It is natural and normal.
But for public mainstream ordinary businesses positions this will be still in a future for some time. And as they are planned to be kept lower level of progress, perhaps this will be tryend to stop them to have this kind of freedom.
It is kind of like these enslaved governments that are forced to keep alive the left and right side same time and portray that as a good thing when anyone with a half a brain and after 30 minutes of thought will see that this is just most terrible thing, why would You need to legally recognize and treat as equal on election someone who is against the values of Your people and land ?
But for public mainstream ordinary businesses positions this will be still in a future for some time. And as they are planned to be kept lower level of progress, perhaps this will be tryend to stop them to have this kind of freedom.
It is kind of like these enslaved governments that are forced to keep alive the left and right side same time and portray that as a good thing when anyone with a half a brain and after 30 minutes of thought will see that this is just most terrible thing, why would You need to legally recognize and treat as equal on election someone who is against the values of Your people and land ?
15 March 2016 15:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
that would be ordinary thing to do considering their deepness of research about that field.
but at least they will not discriminate based on that UN-like the other future organizations (well... )
i posted movie about that some time ago, theme was about future business that hire based on genetic profiles
but at least they will not discriminate based on that UN-like the other future organizations (well... )
i posted movie about that some time ago, theme was about future business that hire based on genetic profiles
15 March 2016 15:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
top it up iwt a music https://soundcloud.com/vergiliusandthearches/publius-vergilius-maro-and-the-arches-1
//kaks järgnevat päriselt ohtlikud tunduvad, esimene targalt ,teine rämedalt, et nagu haridus kuulamiseks, testimiseks neile kes teavad, et kas on confirmed voi not hot
Kuig ma pole päris kindel, kas see muusika peaks legaalne olema: https://soundcloud.com/kleistophobia või noh, sedasi ilma opetuseta, hoiatuse , sildita.. wau, tundus.. mis siis veel sulle allar, osad need seal..
ytlkeme nii, et päris 2 quixcStardiga tegu pole
Muidugi selised tegelased on omamoodi, avalikud: https://soundcloud.com/destroy-all-horizons
kuid nagu ikkagi.,..
see jällegi tundub päriselt nagu ytlevad, positiivne, anelutavad kinni lahtiseid uksi ja igast peenetest pragudest valesi välja: https://soundcloud.com/dasmusix/protector või kuidas
//kaks järgnevat päriselt ohtlikud tunduvad, esimene targalt ,teine rämedalt, et nagu haridus kuulamiseks, testimiseks neile kes teavad, et kas on confirmed voi not hot
Kuig ma pole päris kindel, kas see muusika peaks legaalne olema: https://soundcloud.com/kleistophobia või noh, sedasi ilma opetuseta, hoiatuse , sildita.. wau, tundus.. mis siis veel sulle allar, osad need seal..
ytlkeme nii, et päris 2 quixcStardiga tegu pole
Muidugi selised tegelased on omamoodi, avalikud: https://soundcloud.com/destroy-all-horizons
kuid nagu ikkagi.,..
see jällegi tundub päriselt nagu ytlevad, positiivne, anelutavad kinni lahtiseid uksi ja igast peenetest pragudest valesi välja: https://soundcloud.com/dasmusix/protector või kuidas
https://soundcloud.com/vergiliusandthearches/publius-vergilius-maro-and-the-arches-1
15 March 2016 05:29
Margus Meigo commented on Matthew Charles Casey's post.
what a paly :p
15 March 2016 05:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
God redeems humanity,
but nature needs to be redeemed by human alchemists,
who are able to induce the process of transformation,
which alone is capable of liberating the light imprisoned in physical creation.
http://realeyezkt.tumblr.com/post/15491858653/%CF%88%CF%85%CF%87%CE%AE-%CE%BA%CF%8C%CF%83%CE%BC%CE%BF%CF%85-anima-mundi-awakening-the-soul-of
"As we turn away from the ego towards the soul, we see more of its power and purpose. Its light is the ordering principle in our lives; it can create harmony out of the disparate aspects of our psyche, bring the mandala of the Self into being. Through the workings of the soul we begin to have an outer life in balance with our inner self. It is no different for the world. The anima mundi is the ordering and creative principle in creation. Without her presence we experience only the fractious elements of our egos, the greed, insecurity, and power dynamics that are so visible in our contemporary landscape. When her light is awakened, then she can bring the world into harmony and balance. This simple and radical truth was known to the alchemists: it is the light hidden in matter that will redeem the world."
God redeems humanity,
but nature needs to be redeemed by human alchemists,
who are able to induce the process of transformation,
which alone is capable of liberating the light imprisoned in physical creation.
http://realeyezkt.tumblr.com/post/15491858653/%CF%88%CF%85%CF%87%CE%AE-%CE%BA%CF%8C%CF%83%CE%BC%CE%BF%CF%85-anima-mundi-awakening-the-soul-of
"As we turn away from the ego towards the soul, we see more of its power and purpose. Its light is the ordering principle in our lives; it can create harmony out of the disparate aspects of our psyche, bring the mandala of the Self into being. Through the workings of the soul we begin to have an outer life in balance with our inner self. It is no different for the world. The anima mundi is the ordering and creative principle in creation. Without her presence we experience only the fractious elements of our egos, the greed, insecurity, and power dynamics that are so visible in our contemporary landscape. When her light is awakened, then she can bring the world into harmony and balance. This simple and radical truth was known to the alchemists: it is the light hidden in matter that will redeem the world."
http://realeyezkt.tumblr.com/post/15491858653/%CF%88%CF%85%CF%87%CE%AE-%CE%BA%CF%8C%CF%83%CE%BC%CE%BF%CF%85-anima-mundi-awakening-the-soul-of
15 March 2016 05:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
odinalsed jms ka liigid muidugi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapeshifting#Shapeshifting_in_folklore
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapeshifting#Shapeshifting_in_folklore
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapeshifting#Shapeshifting_in_folklore
15 March 2016 05:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi nendeteema vahest sexi vastane tundus kuid telt tuleb kindlalt niase poole hoida isegi kui neil meid pärast vaja pole, ja likvideerivad, oluline on nende mite meie elusoleks, sest nemad saavad uue meie teha, meie uut neid eisaa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manichaeism#Cosmogony
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manichaeism#Cosmogony
15 March 2016 05:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anima_mundi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anima_mundi
15 March 2016 05:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et AK vaat et seda siis lampi ei de-materialiseeeri sest vb headel robotitel mingi muu asja kaitseks ka seda vaja .. või noh.. et muid kolle keda osad head robotid tagasi hoiavad veel kes aga cube kadumisel ära ei kao vaid mitu kohti veel neid kes ciube tegid.. omakorda veel alles..
"..is a cube-shaped artifact adorned with glyphs and designs which is capable of granting independent life to normal electronic and mechanical objects and is the source of life for all Transformers..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spark_(Transformers)
"..is a cube-shaped artifact adorned with glyphs and designs which is capable of granting independent life to normal electronic and mechanical objects and is the source of life for all Transformers..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spark_(Transformers)
15 March 2016 04:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuigi selle musta karbi info osas mis paha poole energia keskuseks on mida nad yle universumi taga ajavad... seda osa veel ei leia..
http://perspectivelyunique.weebly.com/transformers-prime.html
http://perspectivelyunique.weebly.com/transformers-prime.html
http://perspectivelyunique.weebly.com/transformers-prime.html
15 March 2016 04:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And lets keep in mid also Transformers and Islam: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1030835773605512&set=gm.1225081730853082&type=3&theater
15 March 2016 04:50
Margus Meigo commented on Matthew Charles Casey's post.
It does not matter the soil, if communist aliens come, and do what is not allowed, then lets take fight up to a spirit world!S
15 March 2016 04:48
Margus Meigo commented on Ioana Loehnert's post.
Proper nice!
15 March 2016 04:46
Margus Meigo commented on Liisa Aleksandrova's post.
Group: Tutvus
miks kunagi ei räöägita milles juttu :D15 March 2016 04:45
Margus Meigo commented on Erika Dawn Wyatt's post.
Group: Christians debate Atheists group
God is needed, just Jesus will not do if we miss the point15 March 2016 04:44
Margus Meigo commented on Erika Dawn Wyatt's post.
Group: Christians debate Atheists group
Still possessed, sorry Lady15 March 2016 04:44
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's link.
if he is not "the establishment" then who is ? :D
15 March 2016 04:43
Margus Meigo replied to Joey Damocles's comment.
if he is not "the establishment" then who is ? :D
15 March 2016 04:42
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's link.
So Should we do it or not, this is a question,
what You recommend, Alex Jones, should we allow the dark magic that happens behind this red flagged pentagram illustrated man?
And yes, we know he is a victim, but he is not complain about it... in fact. looking from a good side., he does play a part that really evil would not be able to get there.. as hes blood still has human touch enough in to screw devil over
what You recommend, Alex Jones, should we allow the dark magic that happens behind this red flagged pentagram illustrated man?
And yes, we know he is a victim, but he is not complain about it... in fact. looking from a good side., he does play a part that really evil would not be able to get there.. as hes blood still has human touch enough in to screw devil over
15 March 2016 04:42
Margus Meigo commented on Patricia Janssens's post.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
Lol, so funny when some atheist wannabe comes up with retardation like that
this is so low level, that is almost impossible to even start to have discussion about it,
yes, and bible is the highest fact there ever has been on this time period here and most of You humans are no more then 5-7 thousand years in creation , get your head out of your but if you unable to see a light15 March 2016 04:39
Margus Meigo commented on Rainer Sildre's post.
aiaia, hea et terveks jäid!
15 March 2016 04:34
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
ideaalne!
15 March 2016 04:33
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's live video.
Do You not get bothered of this Russia and nukes story after 10 years...
We right next to Russia, thaks to us they was able to star their uranium programs
We not worry, because we can eliminate much deeper and they have done much worst in parallel worlds, and we forgive
We right next to Russia, thaks to us they was able to star their uranium programs
We not worry, because we can eliminate much deeper and they have done much worst in parallel worlds, and we forgive
15 March 2016 01:18
Margus Meigo commented on Jenna Mourey's photo.
Okey, all is good but we still should keep putting any pentagrams on our profiles even if they look like cute stars as they do have taken that as their own technology and it.. well.. long story short, on this times here right now anything resembling pentagram is no good if it is possible to not have it (have it flowers, hears, butterflies instead.. not a us slaving pentagrams..)
this comment is really, because we care
this comment is really, because we care
15 March 2016 01:10
Margus Meigo commented on Jenna Mourey's photo.
The agreement between God and Humans
15 March 2016 01:07
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
selle kuulsate fimi directoiga tehtud.. kes killbilli vist ja pulkfictioni tegi
14 March 2016 17:06
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
ajas liikumine oli ka mainitud ja kehade, hingede üle võtmine aga peenelt
14 March 2016 17:02
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
sa ta seda promo filmi nägid v? Et nagu mis oleks tehtud nagu koomikute poolt... kuid ma arvan ,et ta ise aitasseda juhendada... kuskil comedy lehel oli üleval
14 March 2016 17:01
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
provib hääli kogudasuts feililt
14 March 2016 17:01
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
tõesti tuleb loota, et see punalipsuga punane ei pääse asjade ligi kuhu ta ei pääse muidugi õnneks, kuid nagu palju vahtu aetakse küll nagu tema oleks parempoolsete parim valik.. see meelega tehtud, et päris valitavad esile ei satuks.. kutil pappi ja meediaraha jätkub, lisaks oma kanalitele, et ennast promoda14 March 2016 16:37
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
juhaidii rsk14 March 2016 16:35
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
Minu silmis valetajad, lipsukandjad ja hypoteetiliste rahasuunaliste eesmärkidega, moraalitud inimesed ongi kommunistid, sest need on need keda kommarid oma plaanides vorpida on plaaninud ühiskonna tarvis mida on kerge üle võtta,
Seega tegu ongi purupunasega, kui asju reaalselt võtta14 March 2016 16:34
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Vali's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
See tump võiks oma võlts kampaania võtta ja koos kommaritega ühte urgu minna, ega sellist ampelmanni keegi küll arukatest riigijuhtidest ei soovi eesotsas näha,
igaljuhul enne hääletaks kahekordselt Hillari poolt,
sest trump koos oma "parempoolsusega" oles selline naeruplek, mida enam usa nii naljalt maha ei pese14 March 2016 16:33
Margus Meigo commented on Onu Reimo's post.
Group: Sind on märgatud vasak-rassist 🔫
:D14 March 2016 16:30
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
"professor ütles nii, ja tal oli lips ja ilus ülikond, ning palju pabereid"
14 March 2016 16:13
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
sametime, in parallele universe, in near future:
Mis sa ajad, prantsuse revolutsiooni ja kaksiktorne pole olnud, see vana müüt nq
Mis sa ajad, prantsuse revolutsiooni ja kaksiktorne pole olnud, see vana müüt nq
14 March 2016 16:13
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
jms
Kuid nagu just se "Ea"
ja "An" jne... hästi sarnane muidugi juudi kirjas olevatele nimedele mis ema ja inimeste jaoks kasutati (Am ja Em)
http://www.truthbeknown.com/anunnaki.htm
et mite sama tähenduses samavõrd kui samasugune lühi sitiil, üldiselt.. mida lühemad nimed olulistematele asjadele seda targem ja algsemalt õigem keel tundub
See Am ja Em näed siis siin: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207888474386494&set=p.10207888474386494&type=3&theater
Kuid nagu just se "Ea"
ja "An" jne... hästi sarnane muidugi juudi kirjas olevatele nimedele mis ema ja inimeste jaoks kasutati (Am ja Em)
http://www.truthbeknown.com/anunnaki.htm
et mite sama tähenduses samavõrd kui samasugune lühi sitiil, üldiselt.. mida lühemad nimed olulistematele asjadele seda targem ja algsemalt õigem keel tundub
See Am ja Em näed siis siin: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207888474386494&set=p.10207888474386494&type=3&theater
14 March 2016 16:08
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Eerik, see vb su raamat ka siin:
http://beforeitsnews.com/religion/2015/07/the-truth-about-the-lost-book-of-enki-2494168.html
Muidugi see pranslaste toodang, kellel oma homo tlnaritele pugemise komme, et tuleb ses suhtes olla suts ettevatlik kudias mis infot ja miks esitlevad
http://beforeitsnews.com/religion/2015/07/the-truth-about-the-lost-book-of-enki-2494168.html
Muidugi see pranslaste toodang, kellel oma homo tlnaritele pugemise komme, et tuleb ses suhtes olla suts ettevatlik kudias mis infot ja miks esitlevad
http://beforeitsnews.com/religion/2015/07/the-truth-about-the-lost-book-of-enki-2494168.html
14 March 2016 16:07
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Korralikult ikka jah, ega me oma 11 000 aastaga ka palju hätta ei jää kuid enne seda pidime veel kuskil olema.. kuid noh, need aastad.. kes teab kuidas need on, ühed kehtivad inimestele, teised laboratooriumite perekondadele ja ammustele liikide tootimsie firmadele ja... ega siin ka tee paha sutsu BatelstarCalacticat vaadata jms rösteritest .P
14 March 2016 16:06
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Kull me oma hypeporea siin hakkama paneme uuesti veel ja paremini , Erikul vaja ka õlg alla saada ja .. :p
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperborea
venkudel praegu muidu suur maaalune propacanda käib "Info osas" kus ja kes hyperporea on ja oli, ning kuidas kõik valge rass sealt kui ammu alguse sai, mainivad isegi meid positiivselt, kuid kuidagi lipsavad neid endeid ka selle asja eesotsa.. ja veel kuidagi ajavad x teemat selle rhvaste liikumise osas... oot üks kaart oli mida nad jagasid.. uurin kui leian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperborea
venkudel praegu muidu suur maaalune propacanda käib "Info osas" kus ja kes hyperporea on ja oli, ning kuidas kõik valge rass sealt kui ammu alguse sai, mainivad isegi meid positiivselt, kuid kuidagi lipsavad neid endeid ka selle asja eesotsa.. ja veel kuidagi ajavad x teemat selle rhvaste liikumise osas... oot üks kaart oli mida nad jagasid.. uurin kui leian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperborea
14 March 2016 16:02
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Kuid see, jah päris tuus:
The traditional belief of the Ethiopic Orthodox Church, which sees 1 Enoch as an inspired document, is that the Ethiopic text is the original one, written by Enoch himself. They believe that the following opening sentence of Enoch is the first and oldest sentence written in any human language, since Enoch was the first to write letters:
"Word of blessing of Henok, wherewith he blessed the chosen and righteous who would be alive in the day of tribulation for the removal of all wrongdoers and backsliders."
//mingil põhjusel tuli inf,et ära seda algset kribu texti tema keeles kopy, et nagu liialt robotite tähelepanu tõmbab kui tähtedena koppida mis keeltes ei ole ja mis veel mingi keelega sarnaneb mis vanast ajast... siis muuseas igaksjuhus kogu postituste sisu võetakse eraldi ette, pannes lisa sildi alla "vaadata üle"
The traditional belief of the Ethiopic Orthodox Church, which sees 1 Enoch as an inspired document, is that the Ethiopic text is the original one, written by Enoch himself. They believe that the following opening sentence of Enoch is the first and oldest sentence written in any human language, since Enoch was the first to write letters:
"Word of blessing of Henok, wherewith he blessed the chosen and righteous who would be alive in the day of tribulation for the removal of all wrongdoers and backsliders."
//mingil põhjusel tuli inf,et ära seda algset kribu texti tema keeles kopy, et nagu liialt robotite tähelepanu tõmbab kui tähtedena koppida mis keeltes ei ole ja mis veel mingi keelega sarnaneb mis vanast ajast... siis muuseas igaksjuhus kogu postituste sisu võetakse eraldi ette, pannes lisa sildi alla "vaadata üle"
14 March 2016 15:59
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
nu jah, keegi geenius arvas, et jube arukas oleks päikesejumalale hakata inimesi ohverdama, et päikesel hullult vaja inimesevärd säramiseks
14 March 2016 15:57
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Karta on, et egiptlastel oli tajooba tarkusi,
kui nad oskasid esemeid ja loomi materialiseerida lematust ellu ja tajooba muud aegruumis reisimist ja hoiamist korraldada samal ajal ise nagu friigid välja näehes, ilmselgelt mitte polnud nad maainimesed
kui nad oskasid esemeid ja loomi materialiseerida lematust ellu ja tajooba muud aegruumis reisimist ja hoiamist korraldada samal ajal ise nagu friigid välja näehes, ilmselgelt mitte polnud nad maainimesed
14 March 2016 15:54
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Kuid enoc siis sellealusel , pidi olema 7 generatsiooni peale Adamit, seega päris ammune tüüp . Oleneb kas aega praegusest ajast tagasi, või selle aja loomisest siiani arvutada.. siis peaks miski aja saama, eks see kirjas kindlasti kuskil
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=+Jude+1%3A14%E2%80%9315&version=OJB;CJB
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=+Jude+1%3A14%E2%80%9315&version=OJB;CJB
14 March 2016 15:52
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
st. eelmise postituse esimene pilt, pildireas
14 March 2016 15:52
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Egiptlaste kohta on see kõige esimene pilt, mul siin ajast ette pantud, .. mõtlesingi.. et miks see.. nüüd tuli meelde.. selleks, et vaja : )
14 March 2016 15:51
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
tra on aff see martin "...then let us emulate the common sense of other nations such as France, Spain,...."
nagu suurimad vallutajad ja vägistajad .. et nende common sence kadu peaks käituma :D:D:D
on tüüp rsk
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"He argues that their synagogues and schools be set on fire, their prayer books destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes razed, and property and money confiscated. They should be shown no mercy or kindness, afforded no legal protection,] and these "poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time. He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "[w]e are at fault in not slaying them"
nagu suurimad vallutajad ja vägistajad .. et nende common sence kadu peaks käituma :D:D:D
on tüüp rsk
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"He argues that their synagogues and schools be set on fire, their prayer books destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes razed, and property and money confiscated. They should be shown no mercy or kindness, afforded no legal protection,] and these "poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time. He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "[w]e are at fault in not slaying them"
14 March 2016 15:43
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
nu jaa, Matriarhaatlikud ka.. Emajärgsed...ja siis Luterlased ei näe probleemi selles,et Martin Luther juute ja naisi vihkas
nagu eeskirju ja sala kirju kirjutas valitsustele üle maa kuidas ja mis pidi eri vandenõusi tekitada juutide suunas ja neid välja suretada, neile raha mainet külge panna ja samal ajal suruda neid igat pidi hävingusse.. et nagu see on ühe populaarsema ristiususildi alla oleva krisltliku nö usu liiik
aga midagi veidrat selles ei nähta
kas pole veider
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_and_antisemitism
nagu eeskirju ja sala kirju kirjutas valitsustele üle maa kuidas ja mis pidi eri vandenõusi tekitada juutide suunas ja neid välja suretada, neile raha mainet külge panna ja samal ajal suruda neid igat pidi hävingusse.. et nagu see on ühe populaarsema ristiususildi alla oleva krisltliku nö usu liiik
aga midagi veidrat selles ei nähta
kas pole veider
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_and_antisemitism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_and_antisemitism
14 March 2016 15:40
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Eenoc ka juutide raamat, to vanem pole kui kõik raamatud mis piiblis, sest osad on üle kolmetuhande aasta vanad, et eenoc muidu ka jah, miinimum 2300 aastat
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"The content, particularly detailed descriptions of fallen angels, would also be a reason for rejection from the Hebrew canon at this period "
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"The content, particularly detailed descriptions of fallen angels, would also be a reason for rejection from the Hebrew canon at this period "
14 March 2016 15:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kujuta ette arusaama, et nad pidid midagi alkot jooma, sest neil polnud külmkappi, et tavalist mahla või vett värskena hoida.. mida ... ???
Tyyp suudab vee veiniks teha.. ja siis ei suuda vet mahlaks, mahla värske hoida või Borjommiks või Värkskaks muuta ajast ette v?? Eriti alahindavad...
ja lisaks veel.. et nagu siis kõik jõid vanasti alkot v.. et nagu .. on ikka loogika..
Tyyp suudab vee veiniks teha.. ja siis ei suuda vet mahlaks, mahla värske hoida või Borjommiks või Värkskaks muuta ajast ette v?? Eriti alahindavad...
ja lisaks veel.. et nagu siis kõik jõid vanasti alkot v.. et nagu .. on ikka loogika..
14 March 2016 15:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
14 March 2016 15:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mööda vahtimist märja rätiguga sellistele anda vaja kohe, otse leeri ees
14 March 2016 15:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
14 March 2016 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kusjures ajsad niiii lihtsalt kirja pandud, et isegi pimedal raske mitte märgata, panen järjestuses siia mis on, kuigi järjestuse olulisus on mu enda arust midagi muud. Kuid noh, lihtsaid silte ja arusaame..
igaksjuhuks ei hakka ise praegu skeemitama, vaid saadan edasi mis tekkis:
(kuid noh, ise mõtlesin, neid väikseid silte, et kui raske neil nagu.. kui raske neid mitte märgata on.. päris raske... eriti kui nagu öeldakse, et anna alkot nendele kes nagu suremisele määratud ja kellest suurt tolku pole, et nad oma masenduse unustaks, aga kui nagu ajudega kunn oled, siis ära võta elusees sussisse tilkagi, segi mitte õlut ega veini)
so:
igaksjuhuks ei hakka ise praegu skeemitama, vaid saadan edasi mis tekkis:
(kuid noh, ise mõtlesin, neid väikseid silte, et kui raske neil nagu.. kui raske neid mitte märgata on.. päris raske... eriti kui nagu öeldakse, et anna alkot nendele kes nagu suremisele määratud ja kellest suurt tolku pole, et nad oma masenduse unustaks, aga kui nagu ajudega kunn oled, siis ära võta elusees sussisse tilkagi, segi mitte õlut ega veini)
so:
14 March 2016 15:23
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
vot sedais saab kui tagasikuulata neid kes kuulavad ebasündsatel eesmärkidel pealt
14 March 2016 15:18
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Tõsi ta on, muidugi mitte MEIE Rahvusriigi, vaid selle organisatsiooni keda siin 1918 jms aegadega uhkelt lips ees kiidetakse arusaamata, kui mitu sarnast PROEJCTI rahva süva mitmetasndiliseks ajastute hävituseks veel samal ajal tehti, tulnuk kommunistide juhtnööride all, "vene vastaste" teeskluse sildi all. Silmi polnud inimestel peas v.. jeerum, tüübid kandisd AVALIKULT SAMA rituaalset kostüümi, kasutasid SAMA strukturi, sõnavara ja kultuuri norme ja arusaame mida "vastased" oma kõrgklassis ja rahva madalklassi promoks.. ja see jäi märkamatuks ?
Nagu what kind of soccery is that...
hypnoosi tehnoloogiad ikka päris asjalikult mõjusid siis juba.. mõelda vaid täna... ja.. täna tegelikult see ajudepesemine on õnneks vastupidi toimima hakanud ja nüüd inimesed isegi rohkem selle sama saasta sisse söömisel hakkavad aru saama võimalikustest mida nendega teha saab, nüüd vaenlased proovivad käsipidurit peale tõnmmata virtsale mida ise kallasid, sest said aru, et terveid juurvilju ja muud head kraami liialtpalju selle virtsa varjus vevib ja arukamad sipelgad automaatse ellujäämis programmi alusel, ilma väliste juhtnöörideta, millest nad ära lõidatud, vaimsest valgusest ja otse jumala häälest... suudavad endiselt, organizeerida ja tarkust filtreerima hakata ning nullist alates uuesti mõtlema hakata.. on ikka ...
ja siis DNAd, rdnad, aju kudesi kuni kõige kasutuna tunduvana välja uurivad proovides teada saada kuhu sügavusse see tarkus peidetud on mis uuesti rakust peenemal tasandil tarkuse aktiviseerib isegi täiesti reostatud ja lagundatud vereliinidel... et miks nad endiselt ujuvad vastuvoolu ja juba ammu ammu peaks olema ....
sunniviisiline elektrooniline juhtimine nüüd proovitakse panna, mis rakku ja kõike nulliks, reguleeriks, ja pingesse tõmbaks mis kogu keha ja mõtte peaks siis kommunistlikus orjasüsteemi allumise suunas hoidma lõplikult.. kuid oh häda...kuidas seda sisestada nendele kes siiani vastuvoolu ujuvad ja öönestavad lamba programme... kus juba ollakse nõus panema kiipe tissidest tussideni, et rahast orgasmini kõik paremaks saaks, tööl meeldivana olemiseks... kuidas nendega toimida... eks nii nagu saionotoloogia soovitas.. et nendega, teatud % kes ei ole ümber programeeritavad isegi tugeva hypnoosi all ja ainetega kinnisies asutuses, ned tuleb välja selekteerida ühiskonnast ja ühekorraga õigel hetkel kõik likvideerida, ... ja kui õigel ajal kõik need korraga eemaldada, siis ei ole ka minigt võimalust liialt tarka vastulööki keele või tehnologia alal .. mis zombilisemad (vabandust kallikesed) keeraks kurja vastu ja ärataks, aktiviseeriks rohkemates mingi peidetud teema mis uuesti tarkust ja nö valgust jagama, aktiviseerima hakkab, elu mõtet ja arusaamu otsima.. ja head tegema ilma käsuta, vastavalt nii kuidas süda kutsub...
saiontoloogiline arusaam teleeekraanidega hyptonoosis hoimiseks on üldiselt toiminud.. ja uius tase 3D peasettide suhtes, toimib veel sygavamalt paljude ärkvel olejatega... sest siis personaalset syva programeerimist ja segadust saab tekitada.. ja õpingut nende kohta... kuid ikkagi.. on neid kes soovivad jääda ainult shamaani asju tegema või tervislike toiduained kasvatama, loomade, lillede ja taimedega suhtlema ja tagataustal kurjust õõnestama.. et jah... tuleb vaikselt nagu ei kaotaks nägu teha ja edais toiemtada.. siinai see enamvähem toimunud ja hoida relvi valmis rünnakuks , kiir strateegiaid..kuid mitte avalikult näidata loomulikut mis noad kõril on. paanika on kõigeväiksem mure.. hullem on kui see aktiviseerib paljude vanade ja noorte koostöö strateegilise ja vaikse, kus petetakse kaasa massiliikumisat aga tegelttheakse midagi targemat ja mudetusi millest alles hiljem aru saame... neil komme ka vahest rääkida mitu taset imelikult ja kujunditega tähendusi anda mida kike ei jõua ka arvutada ja slegitada ja mida kuidas tõeselt võtta, kuigi õppinud hoolega hääletooone ja näokrimasse ja energiaid eri ütluste aegadel... kuid meie nende enda tekitatud segadus ka meile endale tekitab segadust aeajalt.. mida osad kavalamad meelega ära kasutada oskavadja segaduses komberdades pimesi õige suuna suunas joodikuna taarudes aegajalt jälle lyliti leiavad mis paljudel silmad avavad,
oh jah
Nagu what kind of soccery is that...
hypnoosi tehnoloogiad ikka päris asjalikult mõjusid siis juba.. mõelda vaid täna... ja.. täna tegelikult see ajudepesemine on õnneks vastupidi toimima hakanud ja nüüd inimesed isegi rohkem selle sama saasta sisse söömisel hakkavad aru saama võimalikustest mida nendega teha saab, nüüd vaenlased proovivad käsipidurit peale tõnmmata virtsale mida ise kallasid, sest said aru, et terveid juurvilju ja muud head kraami liialtpalju selle virtsa varjus vevib ja arukamad sipelgad automaatse ellujäämis programmi alusel, ilma väliste juhtnöörideta, millest nad ära lõidatud, vaimsest valgusest ja otse jumala häälest... suudavad endiselt, organizeerida ja tarkust filtreerima hakata ning nullist alates uuesti mõtlema hakata.. on ikka ...
ja siis DNAd, rdnad, aju kudesi kuni kõige kasutuna tunduvana välja uurivad proovides teada saada kuhu sügavusse see tarkus peidetud on mis uuesti rakust peenemal tasandil tarkuse aktiviseerib isegi täiesti reostatud ja lagundatud vereliinidel... et miks nad endiselt ujuvad vastuvoolu ja juba ammu ammu peaks olema ....
sunniviisiline elektrooniline juhtimine nüüd proovitakse panna, mis rakku ja kõike nulliks, reguleeriks, ja pingesse tõmbaks mis kogu keha ja mõtte peaks siis kommunistlikus orjasüsteemi allumise suunas hoidma lõplikult.. kuid oh häda...kuidas seda sisestada nendele kes siiani vastuvoolu ujuvad ja öönestavad lamba programme... kus juba ollakse nõus panema kiipe tissidest tussideni, et rahast orgasmini kõik paremaks saaks, tööl meeldivana olemiseks... kuidas nendega toimida... eks nii nagu saionotoloogia soovitas.. et nendega, teatud % kes ei ole ümber programeeritavad isegi tugeva hypnoosi all ja ainetega kinnisies asutuses, ned tuleb välja selekteerida ühiskonnast ja ühekorraga õigel hetkel kõik likvideerida, ... ja kui õigel ajal kõik need korraga eemaldada, siis ei ole ka minigt võimalust liialt tarka vastulööki keele või tehnologia alal .. mis zombilisemad (vabandust kallikesed) keeraks kurja vastu ja ärataks, aktiviseeriks rohkemates mingi peidetud teema mis uuesti tarkust ja nö valgust jagama, aktiviseerima hakkab, elu mõtet ja arusaamu otsima.. ja head tegema ilma käsuta, vastavalt nii kuidas süda kutsub...
saiontoloogiline arusaam teleeekraanidega hyptonoosis hoimiseks on üldiselt toiminud.. ja uius tase 3D peasettide suhtes, toimib veel sygavamalt paljude ärkvel olejatega... sest siis personaalset syva programeerimist ja segadust saab tekitada.. ja õpingut nende kohta... kuid ikkagi.. on neid kes soovivad jääda ainult shamaani asju tegema või tervislike toiduained kasvatama, loomade, lillede ja taimedega suhtlema ja tagataustal kurjust õõnestama.. et jah... tuleb vaikselt nagu ei kaotaks nägu teha ja edais toiemtada.. siinai see enamvähem toimunud ja hoida relvi valmis rünnakuks , kiir strateegiaid..kuid mitte avalikult näidata loomulikut mis noad kõril on. paanika on kõigeväiksem mure.. hullem on kui see aktiviseerib paljude vanade ja noorte koostöö strateegilise ja vaikse, kus petetakse kaasa massiliikumisat aga tegelttheakse midagi targemat ja mudetusi millest alles hiljem aru saame... neil komme ka vahest rääkida mitu taset imelikult ja kujunditega tähendusi anda mida kike ei jõua ka arvutada ja slegitada ja mida kuidas tõeselt võtta, kuigi õppinud hoolega hääletooone ja näokrimasse ja energiaid eri ütluste aegadel... kuid meie nende enda tekitatud segadus ka meile endale tekitab segadust aeajalt.. mida osad kavalamad meelega ära kasutada oskavadja segaduses komberdades pimesi õige suuna suunas joodikuna taarudes aegajalt jälle lyliti leiavad mis paljudel silmad avavad,
oh jah
14 March 2016 15:17
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
saadi küll ammu vanaisade poolt aru, et tulnarid siin peeruvahele kütavad ja ajusi pehmendavad, meie liidritest marjonette teevad ja neid kentsakalt ebapraktiliselt riidesse panevad... et siis väärakalt tavainimesed tervislikust eluviisist eemaldada, tikkontsadel ringi kepsutama plasstmassriietes võõranaise bikiinidele mis arvutigraafikaga tehtud Laike pannes samal ajal kui oma naisel ammu bikiinid seljast ja üksi masenduses näpuga ka uudiseid loeb rubriigist "Mis mul viga on"
kuid nagu ei arvestatud, et selliselt meile põlvedodaratesse virutatakse kahe maailmasõjaga, et sellist arulagedust normiks ise nõudma hakkame nagu lipsulitsid ja deemonKreizi...systeemid.. ja kus ... jah.. missest siin välja tuua,
eks selles ole ka oma tõsi, et tuelb heale keskenduada, sest pimedusega jah, on nagu on
päris pimedas muidugi asub see kah mida otsida, kuid eks selle tähendust tuleb veel otsida (piiblikoht siia, jumala pimeduses olemsiest, mille otsin hiljem..)
kuid nagu ei arvestatud, et selliselt meile põlvedodaratesse virutatakse kahe maailmasõjaga, et sellist arulagedust normiks ise nõudma hakkame nagu lipsulitsid ja deemonKreizi...systeemid.. ja kus ... jah.. missest siin välja tuua,
eks selles ole ka oma tõsi, et tuelb heale keskenduada, sest pimedusega jah, on nagu on
päris pimedas muidugi asub see kah mida otsida, kuid eks selle tähendust tuleb veel otsida (piiblikoht siia, jumala pimeduses olemsiest, mille otsin hiljem..)
14 March 2016 12:44
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
see film neil jah, paar versiooni tehtud, raamat ise on ÜBERdetailsem, need org nimed ja süsteemid mida seal kirjas... soovitan leida see õige trükk sellel, isegi tava trükk juba on tükk tööd läbi projekteerida ja siin kõrvutada..
eks need korp ole nii suured.. noh, mu mõistes mitte eriti suured, vaja oleks palju suuremaid mis igasuguse mõtetu kempluse ära lõpetaksid, ja ainult head toodaksid koos ala heade versioonidega
praegu keegi kes kavalam pettur on ja nahaal saab oma mitte töötavad tikud paremini turule kui mõni 200 aastat vana hea firma kes ideaalseima toote välja mõelnud ja loodab vanausklikult pere traditsionile ja tervele mõistusele... et mida vanaisa õpetas... aga vanaisa ei arvestanud ,et olukord ebanormaalseks muutub (sellises astmes, et ebanormaalne on standard ja normaalsus on väheste privileeg, naeruvääristmaise ja keelustamise ääremail)
eks need korp ole nii suured.. noh, mu mõistes mitte eriti suured, vaja oleks palju suuremaid mis igasuguse mõtetu kempluse ära lõpetaksid, ja ainult head toodaksid koos ala heade versioonidega
praegu keegi kes kavalam pettur on ja nahaal saab oma mitte töötavad tikud paremini turule kui mõni 200 aastat vana hea firma kes ideaalseima toote välja mõelnud ja loodab vanausklikult pere traditsionile ja tervele mõistusele... et mida vanaisa õpetas... aga vanaisa ei arvestanud ,et olukord ebanormaalseks muutub (sellises astmes, et ebanormaalne on standard ja normaalsus on väheste privileeg, naeruvääristmaise ja keelustamise ääremail)
14 March 2016 12:41
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
ega eks me isad võivad ka näpuga hoo sisse lükata ja pinnast igal muul ajal ka torkida, kuid see oleks nagu loote enneaegne torkimine... igatahes peame vahejumalatega seni asja õitsemas hoidma, et selle kanapesa, linnumune ei arvataks olema mädaks läinud
14 March 2016 12:37
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
ma muidugi SEDA diktaktuuri ei kiidaks, füüsilisel tasandil ta hullem.. lihtsalt meil selles osas hullem, et nii peen ja advanced, et inimesed ise kaitsema asuksid, sest mõtlevad, et jäävad alasti ku isee ära võtta.. et "Mis siis VEEL olla saab..." ja väga peenel, mitmel tasandil ja varuvarjandil meil sees.. et kuhu iganes joostakse, kui huupi joosta, siis jõutakse ikka samasse koplisse tagasi
suurem osa peale 50ndat juba lööb käega, mõists, et siin pole kuhugi joosta.... muidugi ta ka enamasti 2D s jooksnud.. kuid seeeest pea kõik 360 ilmakaart .. austada ja hinnata seda valu ja tööd tuleb ikka.. sest nad füüsilise ilma mida siia projekteeritud selliselt, on mitmes eri ruudumõõtmes põhjalikult läbi uurinud... ja teades palju rute on, suurem osa ei julge ega soovigi mõelda, järgmise astme mõõtmiseks, sest see teeks kogu vana mõõtmise alguselt halenaljakaks, limiteerituks, ja väikeseks... kui aste juurde lisada dimensioonina x korda igasuund, veelkorra.
matemaatika lükkab nupu pealt ära enamusel kiirsti popp ja popp
suurem osa peale 50ndat juba lööb käega, mõists, et siin pole kuhugi joosta.... muidugi ta ka enamasti 2D s jooksnud.. kuid seeeest pea kõik 360 ilmakaart .. austada ja hinnata seda valu ja tööd tuleb ikka.. sest nad füüsilise ilma mida siia projekteeritud selliselt, on mitmes eri ruudumõõtmes põhjalikult läbi uurinud... ja teades palju rute on, suurem osa ei julge ega soovigi mõelda, järgmise astme mõõtmiseks, sest see teeks kogu vana mõõtmise alguselt halenaljakaks, limiteerituks, ja väikeseks... kui aste juurde lisada dimensioonina x korda igasuund, veelkorra.
matemaatika lükkab nupu pealt ära enamusel kiirsti popp ja popp
14 March 2016 12:36
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
ära suremine küll siin,.. see õhkõrn võimalus, et see päästab.. enamusel ma kindlasti ei panustaks selle peale,
sest ega suur osa ei tea kelle käes nende keha on ja kust nad uuele ringile saadetakse
ka head sepad, siinpool, saadavad omad lambad tagasi teele, mitte aint need kes viimast oma kinnipüütust välja pigistada soovivad pumbata...
nagu need.. kes meil siin maa majataga tole video tegid.. tõde sõnas sees https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EkBk9qnK50 elementaarne
sest ega suur osa ei tea kelle käes nende keha on ja kust nad uuele ringile saadetakse
ka head sepad, siinpool, saadavad omad lambad tagasi teele, mitte aint need kes viimast oma kinnipüütust välja pigistada soovivad pumbata...
nagu need.. kes meil siin maa majataga tole video tegid.. tõde sõnas sees https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EkBk9qnK50 elementaarne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EkBk9qnK50
14 March 2016 12:32
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
selle TAGA olevast valitsusest lahti saada nagunii,see elementaarne kristlik ülesanne, asi selles, et valitsus mis selle kõige taga on, on sõna otseses mõttes mitme aegruumi taga ja mitte siin beoloogilisel tasandil ainult ringi huiamas,
kuid küll me selle nö rastikupesa positsioneerime löpuks ja ka temasse pääseme nagu tema meisse
kuid küll me selle nö rastikupesa positsioneerime löpuks ja ka temasse pääseme nagu tema meisse
14 March 2016 12:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Stranberg arvas, et kõik kes pole ise alkohoolikud kuid ülemises sektoris aitavad alkoholismile kaasa kas siis ise füüsiliselt juua pakkudes haigele või selliseid ärisi võimaldades, tuleb kriminaalkorras füüsiliselt fastutusele võtta sellise jõleteo korraldmaisel ja teadlikul tegemisel
14 March 2016 12:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mitte sassiajada siis :p
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A4%C3%A4nemeremaade_N%C3%B5ukogu
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A4%C3%A4nemeremaade_N%C3%B5ukogu
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A4%C3%A4nemeremaade_N%C3%B5ukogu
14 March 2016 12:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
http://novaator.err.ee/v/psyyhika/1db4e451-ea80-43e3-841e-30e144ff672a/emotikonid-pole-aju-jaoks-enam-vaid-kirjavahemargid
http://novaator.err.ee/v/psyyhika/1db4e451-ea80-43e3-841e-30e144ff672a/emotikonid-pole-aju-jaoks-enam-vaid-kirjavahemargid
http://novaator.err.ee/v/psyyhika/1db4e451-ea80-43e3-841e-30e144ff672a/emotikonid-pole-aju-jaoks-enam-vaid-kirjavahemargid
14 March 2016 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/vikerraadio_uudised/f6072805-b694-446e-86b6-b8d5891bfd3c/2016-aasta-e-etteutluse-teksti-oige-kirjapilt
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/vikerraadio_uudised/f6072805-b694-446e-86b6-b8d5891bfd3c/2016-aasta-e-etteutluse-teksti-oige-kirjapilt
http://vikerraadio.err.ee/v/vikerraadio_uudised/f6072805-b694-446e-86b6-b8d5891bfd3c/2016-aasta-e-etteutluse-teksti-oige-kirjapilt
14 March 2016 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
võta, võtta, tõtta... keele humanitaaarabi peaks ka pakkuma, umbes nagu invaliididele toetust
14 March 2016 12:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i think Donald Trumph might still nick ya idea, next thing u know, there is #TrumpClove 's all around
14 March 2016 09:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.biblediagrams.com/
little bit but not dso much http://www.gentles.info/BibleHistory/Index_History.html
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/et.html
little bit but not dso much http://www.gentles.info/BibleHistory/Index_History.html
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/et.html
http://www.biblediagrams.com/
14 March 2016 04:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.threetwoone.org/diagrams/
http://www.threetwoone.org/diagrams/
14 March 2016 04:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
whole what they think:
http://www.threetwoone.org/diagrams/connections%20-%20world.gif
http://www.threetwoone.org/diagrams/connections%20-%20world.gif
http://www.threetwoone.org/diagrams/connections%20-%20world.gif
14 March 2016 04:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
how connected to each other according to
http://www.threetwoone.org/diagrams/connections%20-%20africa.gif
http://www.threetwoone.org/diagrams/connections%20-%20africa.gif
http://www.threetwoone.org/diagrams/connections%20-%20africa.gif
14 March 2016 04:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
not related but no other place to put it right now:
// http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2014/07/the-acute-danger-of-iraqi-dams
the whole site
// http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2014/07/the-acute-danger-of-iraqi-dams
the whole site
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2014/07/the-acute-danger-of-iraqi-dams
14 March 2016 04:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://ethiogalaxy.com/p2.pdf
"Another document found online at the website of the University of Minnesota, shows a scan of the Federal Negarit Gazette of 31 October 1996 establishing Proclamation No. 48/1996 amending the "Flag and Emblem Proclamation" No. 16/1996. According to this document, the size of the emblem had already changed from 1/2 to 2/3 of the flag width back in 1996 by this Proclamation. The document includes a colour image of the flag
to confirm this"
http://www1/umn.edu/humanrts/research/proclamation%20no.48-1996.pdf
"Another document found online at the website of the University of Minnesota, shows a scan of the Federal Negarit Gazette of 31 October 1996 establishing Proclamation No. 48/1996 amending the "Flag and Emblem Proclamation" No. 16/1996. According to this document, the size of the emblem had already changed from 1/2 to 2/3 of the flag width back in 1996 by this Proclamation. The document includes a colour image of the flag
to confirm this"
http://www1/umn.edu/humanrts/research/proclamation%20no.48-1996.pdf
14 March 2016 04:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
anyway pages to look in to deep for sure
14 March 2016 04:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So they continue:
Per fess Azure and Argent, a cross Gules. Imperial crown.
Sable, strewn with crosses crosslet fitchée, a balance Or. Royal crown
Argent, a lion rampant Or, holding a latin cross Gules. Royal crown.
The explanation, containing some disinformation, reads:
“Honorandus dominus et princeps dominus prespiter Johannes de Yndia maiori et minori, que terra situata est retro Tarthariam ubi Tartharia finem habet. Ab eadem Tartharia restant 10 diete usque ad Yndiam, ubi requiscit sanctus Thomas. Et est in eadem contracta civitas insigna, que vocatur volgaliter Ordo. Ab ista civitate omnes imperatores et reges Tartharorum deberent esse nati et trahere principatum ab ista civitate. Que fuererunt antiquitis ibi Cesares et habebant in omnibus regnis Tartharorum eligere sub se Cesaren vel regem. Sic et fecerunt Troyani, postquam Romani et nunc electores Sacri Ymperii Romanorum. Et ubi, in quo regno non habetur princeps de Ordo Tartharie, ille princeps, qui sic non est natus, oportet eum habere vicarium de Ordo, qui sibi in nomine Ordo accomodat feoda, et Omaida et alia regimina, que spectant ad regnum. Sicut Magnus Can habet unum de Ordo, qui est vicarius suus, et omnes Tarthari similiter habent.
Dominus prespiter Johannes debet esse archiepiscopus, et habet sub se 4 archiepiscopos et 30 episcopos, et habebat nullum nuntium hic, nisi fuerunt 3 Ethiopi, qui finxerunt se esse de terra et regno isto. Qui autem ignorabant Latinum neque habebant ydeoma, quod intelligi quisquam poterat.”
Important for the interpretation of the three coats of arms is that there is a ‘Honorable lord and prince Priest John of Greater and Lesser India’ and that ‘Lord Priest John has to be an archbishop with four archbishops under him and 30 bishops, and he has no nuntius here, but there are three Ethiopians who claim to be from his land and kingdom’.
In the first place it was well known by our Catalan carthographers that the empire of “Prester John” had to be located in Ethiopia but this seems to be ignored by Ulrich Richental. [2]
In the second place we may interprete the “coats of arms” to be the emblems of the administrative-, the religious- and the armed authorities of the Ethiopian Empire. These differ a little bit from the emblems used in the west and seem to be influenced by the Egyptian Mameluk empire of the time. In that empire, headed by the Caliph as ‘the spiritual leader of the muslim community’, the executive was the Sultan who directed the ‘Men of the Turban’ or judicature, the ‘Men of the Pen’ or administration, and the ‘Men of the Sword’ or armed forces.[3]
If we take this into account it would explain the symbols used in the ‘coats of arms’ to be: the square cross of the christian administration, the balance and the recrossed crosses of the christian judicature, and the lion ‘defender of the faith’ (the faith symbolized by the latin cross) of the christian armed forces of the Ethiopian empire. It would mean that the three Ethiopian delegates were representing these three institutional ranges of authority. The imperial crown would imply that the head of the administration, the prime minister or vizier, was considered to be the (representative of) the Emperor or the Imperial crown.
This model would also explain the triple cross as the symbol of the ‘spiritual leader of the Ethiopian Christian community’ i.e. the ‘Metropolitan Archbishop of Axum and of All Ethiopia’.
The copy of the Richental Chronicle in the Bayrische Staatsbibliothek which dates from 1460-1507, gives some other additional and surprising information as it depicts the coats of arms of the kings of four parts of India and the coat of arms of the king of Ethiopia. [4] Of course we do not know what persons are behind those arms but they may correspond with the governors of the provinces of Gurage, Hadiya, Iffat, Manz and Wag, who bore the title of Qas in the 16th and 17th centuries.
Per fess Azure and Argent, a cross Gules. Imperial crown.
Sable, strewn with crosses crosslet fitchée, a balance Or. Royal crown
Argent, a lion rampant Or, holding a latin cross Gules. Royal crown.
The explanation, containing some disinformation, reads:
“Honorandus dominus et princeps dominus prespiter Johannes de Yndia maiori et minori, que terra situata est retro Tarthariam ubi Tartharia finem habet. Ab eadem Tartharia restant 10 diete usque ad Yndiam, ubi requiscit sanctus Thomas. Et est in eadem contracta civitas insigna, que vocatur volgaliter Ordo. Ab ista civitate omnes imperatores et reges Tartharorum deberent esse nati et trahere principatum ab ista civitate. Que fuererunt antiquitis ibi Cesares et habebant in omnibus regnis Tartharorum eligere sub se Cesaren vel regem. Sic et fecerunt Troyani, postquam Romani et nunc electores Sacri Ymperii Romanorum. Et ubi, in quo regno non habetur princeps de Ordo Tartharie, ille princeps, qui sic non est natus, oportet eum habere vicarium de Ordo, qui sibi in nomine Ordo accomodat feoda, et Omaida et alia regimina, que spectant ad regnum. Sicut Magnus Can habet unum de Ordo, qui est vicarius suus, et omnes Tarthari similiter habent.
Dominus prespiter Johannes debet esse archiepiscopus, et habet sub se 4 archiepiscopos et 30 episcopos, et habebat nullum nuntium hic, nisi fuerunt 3 Ethiopi, qui finxerunt se esse de terra et regno isto. Qui autem ignorabant Latinum neque habebant ydeoma, quod intelligi quisquam poterat.”
Important for the interpretation of the three coats of arms is that there is a ‘Honorable lord and prince Priest John of Greater and Lesser India’ and that ‘Lord Priest John has to be an archbishop with four archbishops under him and 30 bishops, and he has no nuntius here, but there are three Ethiopians who claim to be from his land and kingdom’.
In the first place it was well known by our Catalan carthographers that the empire of “Prester John” had to be located in Ethiopia but this seems to be ignored by Ulrich Richental. [2]
In the second place we may interprete the “coats of arms” to be the emblems of the administrative-, the religious- and the armed authorities of the Ethiopian Empire. These differ a little bit from the emblems used in the west and seem to be influenced by the Egyptian Mameluk empire of the time. In that empire, headed by the Caliph as ‘the spiritual leader of the muslim community’, the executive was the Sultan who directed the ‘Men of the Turban’ or judicature, the ‘Men of the Pen’ or administration, and the ‘Men of the Sword’ or armed forces.[3]
If we take this into account it would explain the symbols used in the ‘coats of arms’ to be: the square cross of the christian administration, the balance and the recrossed crosses of the christian judicature, and the lion ‘defender of the faith’ (the faith symbolized by the latin cross) of the christian armed forces of the Ethiopian empire. It would mean that the three Ethiopian delegates were representing these three institutional ranges of authority. The imperial crown would imply that the head of the administration, the prime minister or vizier, was considered to be the (representative of) the Emperor or the Imperial crown.
This model would also explain the triple cross as the symbol of the ‘spiritual leader of the Ethiopian Christian community’ i.e. the ‘Metropolitan Archbishop of Axum and of All Ethiopia’.
The copy of the Richental Chronicle in the Bayrische Staatsbibliothek which dates from 1460-1507, gives some other additional and surprising information as it depicts the coats of arms of the kings of four parts of India and the coat of arms of the king of Ethiopia. [4] Of course we do not know what persons are behind those arms but they may correspond with the governors of the provinces of Gurage, Hadiya, Iffat, Manz and Wag, who bore the title of Qas in the 16th and 17th centuries.
14 March 2016 04:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The development of Ethiopian heraldry can be divided into three periods
• The first period is the period of the Aksum empire and of the early Salomonic Dynasty and lasted from the first century AD until the beginning of the 15th century. In this period our sources are mainly numismatic for Aksum. For the early Salomonic period we are informed by Arabic and Catalan travellers and in particular by portolans, maps of the world made by Catalan carthographers showing flags and images of rulers.
In this period we notice that the symbols used are of the common Christian kind, that is to say that we meet square crosses and latin crosses to symbolize the ranges of authority. These we find in the Aksum Empire and in the Ethiopian Orthodox Church.
• In the second period, which lasts from the beginning of the 15th century until the middle of the 19th century a heraldic symbol for the ruler himself is introduced. We are informed about this symbol mainly by German and Portuguese sources.
Most important for us is the report of the Constanz Council held in the second decennium of the fifteenth century which was attended by some Ethiopian delegates.. Ulrich Richental, the chronicler of the Council, gives the coats of arms of these delegates and gives an explanation [1].
http://www.hubert-herald.nl/Ethiopia.htm
• The first period is the period of the Aksum empire and of the early Salomonic Dynasty and lasted from the first century AD until the beginning of the 15th century. In this period our sources are mainly numismatic for Aksum. For the early Salomonic period we are informed by Arabic and Catalan travellers and in particular by portolans, maps of the world made by Catalan carthographers showing flags and images of rulers.
In this period we notice that the symbols used are of the common Christian kind, that is to say that we meet square crosses and latin crosses to symbolize the ranges of authority. These we find in the Aksum Empire and in the Ethiopian Orthodox Church.
• In the second period, which lasts from the beginning of the 15th century until the middle of the 19th century a heraldic symbol for the ruler himself is introduced. We are informed about this symbol mainly by German and Portuguese sources.
Most important for us is the report of the Constanz Council held in the second decennium of the fifteenth century which was attended by some Ethiopian delegates.. Ulrich Richental, the chronicler of the Council, gives the coats of arms of these delegates and gives an explanation [1].
http://www.hubert-herald.nl/Ethiopia.htm
http://www.hubert-herald.nl/Ethiopia.htm
14 March 2016 04:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The oldest known picture of the lion passant is on the seal of Theodore II (1855-1868). After him all Ethiopian rulers have used seals with lions passant. We are informed about this seals by M. de Coppet in his “La Chronique de Menelik.” (1930).
We may understand from his collection that initially the symbol of the “Elect of God and King of Kings of Ethiopia” was a crowned lion passant guardant. Only by Menelik II (1889-1913) the lion was given a processional cross in his paw, in a later version augmented with a streamer. This last version can be found in an embellished form on his great seal and on the reverse of his coinage struck from 1894 until 1903.
The Great Seal of Menelik II was also used by Empress Zaudita
The position of the lion of John IV (1872-1889) was walking to the right (in heraldic terms: to the sinister) and this position was at first also adopted by Menelik II. In the newer, embellished version we meet on coins and stamps after 1894, the lion is depicted walking to the left (in heraldic terms: to the dexter) which is a position more into agreement with western heraldic rules. Contrary to the lion on the seal, the lion has the processional cross in his left paw.
The position of the lion was changed by Haile Selassie at the occasion of his coronation in 1930 and from this time until his deposition in 1974, the lion walking to the sinister was the common position of the lion. Also, from this time the lion is always keeping the processional cross in his right paw.
http://www.hubert-herald.nl/EthiopiaLion.htm
We may understand from his collection that initially the symbol of the “Elect of God and King of Kings of Ethiopia” was a crowned lion passant guardant. Only by Menelik II (1889-1913) the lion was given a processional cross in his paw, in a later version augmented with a streamer. This last version can be found in an embellished form on his great seal and on the reverse of his coinage struck from 1894 until 1903.
The Great Seal of Menelik II was also used by Empress Zaudita
The position of the lion of John IV (1872-1889) was walking to the right (in heraldic terms: to the sinister) and this position was at first also adopted by Menelik II. In the newer, embellished version we meet on coins and stamps after 1894, the lion is depicted walking to the left (in heraldic terms: to the dexter) which is a position more into agreement with western heraldic rules. Contrary to the lion on the seal, the lion has the processional cross in his left paw.
The position of the lion was changed by Haile Selassie at the occasion of his coronation in 1930 and from this time until his deposition in 1974, the lion walking to the sinister was the common position of the lion. Also, from this time the lion is always keeping the processional cross in his right paw.
http://www.hubert-herald.nl/EthiopiaLion.htm
http://www.hubert-herald.nl/EthiopiaLion.htm
14 March 2016 04:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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14 March 2016 03:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
also .. to try to make .. researches look a bit.. silly..
and not even talk about shamans..
http://venturebeat.com/2014/12/29/cia-takes-blame-for-more-than-half-of-ufo-sightings-in-late-1950s-and-60s/
and not even talk about shamans..
http://venturebeat.com/2014/12/29/cia-takes-blame-for-more-than-half-of-ufo-sightings-in-late-1950s-and-60s/
http://venturebeat.com/2014/12/29/cia-takes-blame-for-more-than-half-of-ufo-sightings-in-late-1950s-and-60s/
14 March 2016 03:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lol @question on minute 1h:05m "when Columbus visited Americas they have learned by few years a lot, as most of them was dead by few years.. what we have learned? "
http://www.checktheevidence.com/audio2/ET%20and%20UFO/Seth%20Shostak%20and%20Stanton%20Friedman%20-%20Coast%20to%20Coast%20-%20Jul%2021%202004%20-%20mp3.mp3
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http://www.checktheevidence.com/audio2/ET%20and%20UFO/Seth%20Shostak%20and%20Stanton%20Friedman%20-%20Coast%20to%20Coast%20-%20Jul%2021%202004%20-%20mp3.mp3
14 March 2016 03:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.zehabesha.com/
http://www.zehabesha.com/
14 March 2016 03:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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14 March 2016 03:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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14 March 2016 03:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Not really finished up with Ethy, are u penta?
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14 March 2016 03:45
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"The document "Religious extremism is the main source of poverty and despair" after stating that, "in a fair way the user will be rapid development to ensure that Government policies, strategies and plans implemented by the process of extensive efforts" describes the expectations of society."
"ሰነዱ “ የሀይማኖት አክራሪነትና አሸባሪነት ዋናው ምንጭ ድህነትና ተስፋ መቁረጥ ” መሆኑን ከገለጸ በሁዋላ ፣ ”ፍትሀዊ በሆነ መንገድ ተጠቃሚ የሚሆንበትን ፈጣን ልማት ለማረጋገጥ በመንግስት የወጡ ፖሊሲዎች፣ ስትራቴጂዎችና እቅዶች ተግባራዊ በማድረግ ሂደት ሰፊ ርብርብ ማድረግ” ከህብረተሰቡ እንደሚጠበቅ ይገልጻል።"
http://ethiofeteh.blogspot.com.ee/2014/01/blog-post_28.html
እስካሁን ባተካሄደው ውይይት እንደታየው የመንግስት ሰራተኞች በስልጠናው ላይ የሚገኙት የስም ምዝገባ ስላለ እንጅ በዝግጀቱ አምነውበት አይደለም ይላሉ ተሳታፊዎች።
በውይይቶች ወቅት የመንግስት ባለስልጣኖች ከፍተኛ ትኩረት የሚሰጡት ከህዝቡ ስለሚጠበቀው ግዴታ መሆኑን የሚናገሩት ተሳታፊዎች ፣ የአገሪቷን ደህንነት ፖሊስና የደህንነት ሃይሉ ጠብቆ ስለማይችል፣ ህዝቡ ከኮሚኒቲ ፖሊስ ጋር በመተባበር ነቅቶ መጠበቅ እንዳለበት ባለስልጣኖች ማሳሰቢያ መስጠታቸውን ተሰታፊዎች ይገልጻሉ።
የፌደራል ፖሊስ ሽብርተኝነትን ለመከላከልና ወንጀለኛን ለመለየት የአፍና የጸጉር ምርመራ ሊያደርግ እንደሚችል፣ ምርምራው እንዲደረግበት የተጠረጠረ ሰው ፈቃደኛ ካልሆነ ተመጣጣኝ ሃይል በፖሊስ ሊወሰድበት እንደሚችል፣ በማንኛውም ጊዜ በድነገት በከተማ ባስና በታክሲ ላይ ፍተሻ ሊደረግ ስለሚችል ህዝቡ መተባበር እንዳለበት የመንግስት ባለስልጣናት ተናግረዋል።
የመንግስት ሰራተኞች ቦርሳ፣ፌስታልና መሰል ቁሳቁሶችን ቢሮ ውስጥ ጥለው እንዳይሄዱ የተነገራቸው ሲሆን ፣ ቢሮ ውሰጥ የተገኙ ፌስታሎችና ቦርሳዎች ለአደጋ ከማጋለጣቸው በፊት በጥንቃቄ እንዲታዩ ምክር ተሰጥቷል።
ለማወያያነት በቀረበው ሰነድ ላይ በግልጽ እንደሚታየው “ከፍርድ ቤት ፈቃድ በመውሰድ በሽብርተኝነት የተጠረጠረን ሰው የስልክ፣ የሬዲዮ፣ የኢንተርኔት የኤሌክትሮኒክስ፣ የፋክስ፣ የፖስታ ግንኙነት እና የመሳሰሉ ግንኙነቶችን ለመጥለፍ ወይም ለመከታተል፣ ጠለፋውን ለማስፈፀም ወደ ማንኛውም ቤት በሚስጢር የመግባት ወይም ይህንኑ ለመፈጸም የሚያስችሉ መሳሪያዎችን ለማስቀመጥ ወይም ለማንሳት የፌደራል ፖሊስ ስልጣን ተሰጥቶታል።
እንዲሁም “ ማስረጃ ከሚሰበሰብባቸው የተለያዩ ዘዴዎች መካከል አንዱ በሽብርተኝነት ወንጀል ከተጠረጠረው ሠው ላይ ናሙናዎችን መውሰድ እና የህክምና ምርመራ እንዲያደርግ ማድረግ በመሆኑ ፣ ተጠርጣሪውም በምርመራ ሂደት ናሙናውን ለመስጠት ወይም የህክምና ምርመራ ለማድረግ ፍቃደኛ ካልሆነ ፖሊስ ተመጣጣኝ ኃይል ተጠቅሞ ናሙናውን የመውሰድ ሥልጣን ተሰጥቶታል፡፡
Half translation:
Top government officials attention to their conversation when people can not maintain a security force participants to speak, the nation's security policy and that the obligation must, in collaboration with the police and community officials to provide notice should describe the participants to stay awake.
Federal Police investigation to identify the prevention of terrorism can cause vaginal hair extradition, is not willing to study for a man suspected of equivalent power can be taken by the police, said government officials may be subject to inspection at any time, spontaneous Sinai city tax on the people to cooperate.
Civil case, fēšiteline drawing materials in the office's going to leave, and has been found in the office of counsel to appear before kemegelet’echewi risk fēšitelochine bags.
Lemeweyeyeneti Clearly, "the court will take a person suspected of terrorism, telephone, radio, the Internet and electronic, fax, postal and communications, such as communications intercept or monitor the implementation of t’elefewini to sign any confidentiality house or saving tools that perform the same or federal police authority to take on the document Rated.
And "proof kemišebešebibechewi to make it one of terrorism allegedly taking samples and medical tests on a variety of methods, tet’erit’eriwimi given the power to take investigative process model using the power of an equivalent policy is not willing to make a medical diagnosis or model.
"ሰነዱ “ የሀይማኖት አክራሪነትና አሸባሪነት ዋናው ምንጭ ድህነትና ተስፋ መቁረጥ ” መሆኑን ከገለጸ በሁዋላ ፣ ”ፍትሀዊ በሆነ መንገድ ተጠቃሚ የሚሆንበትን ፈጣን ልማት ለማረጋገጥ በመንግስት የወጡ ፖሊሲዎች፣ ስትራቴጂዎችና እቅዶች ተግባራዊ በማድረግ ሂደት ሰፊ ርብርብ ማድረግ” ከህብረተሰቡ እንደሚጠበቅ ይገልጻል።"
http://ethiofeteh.blogspot.com.ee/2014/01/blog-post_28.html
እስካሁን ባተካሄደው ውይይት እንደታየው የመንግስት ሰራተኞች በስልጠናው ላይ የሚገኙት የስም ምዝገባ ስላለ እንጅ በዝግጀቱ አምነውበት አይደለም ይላሉ ተሳታፊዎች።
በውይይቶች ወቅት የመንግስት ባለስልጣኖች ከፍተኛ ትኩረት የሚሰጡት ከህዝቡ ስለሚጠበቀው ግዴታ መሆኑን የሚናገሩት ተሳታፊዎች ፣ የአገሪቷን ደህንነት ፖሊስና የደህንነት ሃይሉ ጠብቆ ስለማይችል፣ ህዝቡ ከኮሚኒቲ ፖሊስ ጋር በመተባበር ነቅቶ መጠበቅ እንዳለበት ባለስልጣኖች ማሳሰቢያ መስጠታቸውን ተሰታፊዎች ይገልጻሉ።
የፌደራል ፖሊስ ሽብርተኝነትን ለመከላከልና ወንጀለኛን ለመለየት የአፍና የጸጉር ምርመራ ሊያደርግ እንደሚችል፣ ምርምራው እንዲደረግበት የተጠረጠረ ሰው ፈቃደኛ ካልሆነ ተመጣጣኝ ሃይል በፖሊስ ሊወሰድበት እንደሚችል፣ በማንኛውም ጊዜ በድነገት በከተማ ባስና በታክሲ ላይ ፍተሻ ሊደረግ ስለሚችል ህዝቡ መተባበር እንዳለበት የመንግስት ባለስልጣናት ተናግረዋል።
የመንግስት ሰራተኞች ቦርሳ፣ፌስታልና መሰል ቁሳቁሶችን ቢሮ ውስጥ ጥለው እንዳይሄዱ የተነገራቸው ሲሆን ፣ ቢሮ ውሰጥ የተገኙ ፌስታሎችና ቦርሳዎች ለአደጋ ከማጋለጣቸው በፊት በጥንቃቄ እንዲታዩ ምክር ተሰጥቷል።
ለማወያያነት በቀረበው ሰነድ ላይ በግልጽ እንደሚታየው “ከፍርድ ቤት ፈቃድ በመውሰድ በሽብርተኝነት የተጠረጠረን ሰው የስልክ፣ የሬዲዮ፣ የኢንተርኔት የኤሌክትሮኒክስ፣ የፋክስ፣ የፖስታ ግንኙነት እና የመሳሰሉ ግንኙነቶችን ለመጥለፍ ወይም ለመከታተል፣ ጠለፋውን ለማስፈፀም ወደ ማንኛውም ቤት በሚስጢር የመግባት ወይም ይህንኑ ለመፈጸም የሚያስችሉ መሳሪያዎችን ለማስቀመጥ ወይም ለማንሳት የፌደራል ፖሊስ ስልጣን ተሰጥቶታል።
እንዲሁም “ ማስረጃ ከሚሰበሰብባቸው የተለያዩ ዘዴዎች መካከል አንዱ በሽብርተኝነት ወንጀል ከተጠረጠረው ሠው ላይ ናሙናዎችን መውሰድ እና የህክምና ምርመራ እንዲያደርግ ማድረግ በመሆኑ ፣ ተጠርጣሪውም በምርመራ ሂደት ናሙናውን ለመስጠት ወይም የህክምና ምርመራ ለማድረግ ፍቃደኛ ካልሆነ ፖሊስ ተመጣጣኝ ኃይል ተጠቅሞ ናሙናውን የመውሰድ ሥልጣን ተሰጥቶታል፡፡
Half translation:
Top government officials attention to their conversation when people can not maintain a security force participants to speak, the nation's security policy and that the obligation must, in collaboration with the police and community officials to provide notice should describe the participants to stay awake.
Federal Police investigation to identify the prevention of terrorism can cause vaginal hair extradition, is not willing to study for a man suspected of equivalent power can be taken by the police, said government officials may be subject to inspection at any time, spontaneous Sinai city tax on the people to cooperate.
Civil case, fēšiteline drawing materials in the office's going to leave, and has been found in the office of counsel to appear before kemegelet’echewi risk fēšitelochine bags.
Lemeweyeyeneti Clearly, "the court will take a person suspected of terrorism, telephone, radio, the Internet and electronic, fax, postal and communications, such as communications intercept or monitor the implementation of t’elefewini to sign any confidentiality house or saving tools that perform the same or federal police authority to take on the document Rated.
And "proof kemišebešebibechewi to make it one of terrorism allegedly taking samples and medical tests on a variety of methods, tet’erit’eriwimi given the power to take investigative process model using the power of an equivalent policy is not willing to make a medical diagnosis or model.
http://ethiofeteh.blogspot.com.ee/2014/01/blog-post_28.html
14 March 2016 03:42
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" Ethiopia remains desperately poor, with a human development index of merely .442 (on a scale of 1.0), ranked 174th in the world. The country only reduced poverty by one-third by the close of the MDGs, and nearly 90 percent of the entire population of 96.5 million is living in multidimensional poverty. Despite all of this, the Ethiopian government has still funded 46 percent of its humanitarian requirements
"Ethiopia has suffered from chronic food insecurity for over thirty years as a result of intense population growth whose over cultivation of small landholdings has put immense pressure on the soil in an already fragile environment. Yet, the drought occurring now has brought a level of devastation that, according to the United Nations, could rival the major famine in 1984 that killed upwards of 900,000 people. As of February 2016, 75 percent of harvests have been lost, one million livestock have died, and ten to fifteen million people require emergency humanitarian food assistance, with 430,000 children experiencing severe malnutrition.
"Yet as of February 1, the Ethiopian government and its aid partners have announced that they need a total of $1.4 billion in 2016 to address the current drought-induced crisis, and have only received roughly one-third of this amount thus far. The World Food Programme has said that $500 million of this request is urgently needed by the end of this month to extend aid efforts through April. With the political urgency surrounding the current crisis in Syria, organizations like Save the Children have found it challenging to garner public attention and fiscal support for this equally severe humanitarian situation.
"Through its flooding, record snowfalls, and droughts, El Niño has proven to be a far greater threat than any nation could have anticipated. This is particularly the case for a resource-poor country such as Ethiopia, whose communities rely on subsistence farming for survival. Ethiopia is justified in its pleas for help, and donor countries should act quickly to aid the many potential victims of famine. However, the adverse effects of climate change will continue to exact an outsized toll on countries like Ethiopia, and in addition to the rapid mobilization of resources in a time of crisis, there needs to be a forward-looking plan to help vulnerable nations build resilience."
http://hornaffairs.com/en/2016/03/03/ethiopia-forgotten-drought/
" Ethiopia remains desperately poor, with a human development index of merely .442 (on a scale of 1.0), ranked 174th in the world. The country only reduced poverty by one-third by the close of the MDGs, and nearly 90 percent of the entire population of 96.5 million is living in multidimensional poverty. Despite all of this, the Ethiopian government has still funded 46 percent of its humanitarian requirements
"Ethiopia has suffered from chronic food insecurity for over thirty years as a result of intense population growth whose over cultivation of small landholdings has put immense pressure on the soil in an already fragile environment. Yet, the drought occurring now has brought a level of devastation that, according to the United Nations, could rival the major famine in 1984 that killed upwards of 900,000 people. As of February 2016, 75 percent of harvests have been lost, one million livestock have died, and ten to fifteen million people require emergency humanitarian food assistance, with 430,000 children experiencing severe malnutrition.
"Yet as of February 1, the Ethiopian government and its aid partners have announced that they need a total of $1.4 billion in 2016 to address the current drought-induced crisis, and have only received roughly one-third of this amount thus far. The World Food Programme has said that $500 million of this request is urgently needed by the end of this month to extend aid efforts through April. With the political urgency surrounding the current crisis in Syria, organizations like Save the Children have found it challenging to garner public attention and fiscal support for this equally severe humanitarian situation.
"Through its flooding, record snowfalls, and droughts, El Niño has proven to be a far greater threat than any nation could have anticipated. This is particularly the case for a resource-poor country such as Ethiopia, whose communities rely on subsistence farming for survival. Ethiopia is justified in its pleas for help, and donor countries should act quickly to aid the many potential victims of famine. However, the adverse effects of climate change will continue to exact an outsized toll on countries like Ethiopia, and in addition to the rapid mobilization of resources in a time of crisis, there needs to be a forward-looking plan to help vulnerable nations build resilience."
http://hornaffairs.com/en/2016/03/03/ethiopia-forgotten-drought/
http://hornaffairs.com/en/2016/03/03/ethiopia-forgotten-drought/
14 March 2016 03:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Once more:
It is prohibited to commit any of the following:
to use the Flag without its Emblem as provided under this Proclamation;
to use an old, faded or torn Flag;
to prepare or use the Flag without the proper order of its colors and size or its Emblem;
--
So here You have it
Have as long U have it, soon Ya will not
It is prohibited to commit any of the following:
to use the Flag without its Emblem as provided under this Proclamation;
to use an old, faded or torn Flag;
to prepare or use the Flag without the proper order of its colors and size or its Emblem;
--
So here You have it
Have as long U have it, soon Ya will not
14 March 2016 03:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The current ruling party, EPRDF, simply removed the coat of arms and used the horizontally striped green-yellow-red colors as a flag from 1991-1995 – the transitional period. Perhaps, that was the only time, at least in the last century, the a simple green-yellow-red flag served as official flag of the nation.
However,the 1995 Constitution of the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia, declared that:
Article 3 [of the Constitution]
The Ethiopian Flag
1. The Ethiopian flag shall consist of green at the top, yellow in the middle and red at the bottom, and shall have a national emblem at the centre. The three colours shall be set horizontally in equal dimension.
...
Ethiopian Flag since 1995
Subsequently, in 1996, the Federal Parliament issued a proclamation that defines the Ethiopian flag as follows:
Colors and Shape of the Flag
1/ The Flag shall have the colors: green at the top, yellow at the middle and red at the bottom together with a National Emblem of circular blue background. The Emblem shall be set at the centre of the Flag in such a way that its circumference curves on the midpoint of the width of both the green and red colors.
2/ The colors shall be bright and basic.
3/ The colors shall be structured horizontally and be of the same size. The length of the Flag shall be twice its width.
4/ The Emblem shall be a blue circle with depictions;
a) straight and equal lines of yellow that come from all directions and join each other;
b) a star formed by the straight and equal lines;
c) yellow rays radiating from the points where the straight and equal lines cross each other.
According to the 1996 Flag and Emblem Proclamation, the meaning of the colors and the emblem is:
Meaning of the Colors of the Flag
The colors of the Flag shall represent the following meanings:
1/ the green for labor, fertility and development;
2/ the yellow for hope, justice and equality; and
3/ the red for sacrifice and heroism towards the prevalence of freedom and equality.
Meaning of the Emblem
1/ The circular blue background of the Emblem signifies peace.
2/ The straight and equal lines signify the equality of Nations, Nationalities and Peoples as well as of Religions.
3/ The star formed by the straight and equal lines signify the unity founded by the Nations, Nationalities and Peoples of Ethiopia of their common will.
4/ The yellow rays signify the bright prospect in sight for the Nations, Nationalities and Peoples united of their common will.
The new Flag Proclamation, issued in 2009, merely repeated these provisions and provided for the unity of the flag. That is: The Flag of the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia shall only be of the colors of Green, Yellow, Red and blue circular background as provided hereinabove, together with the Emblem at centre, as specified in this Proclamation.
The Proclamation also provided a list ‘prohibited activities’, as follows:
It is prohibited to commit any of the following:
1) to use the Flag without its Emblem as provided under this Proclamation;
2) to deface the Flag by writing or displaying sings, symbols, emblems or picture;
3) to use an old, faded or torn Flag;
4) to fasten advertisements, notices or other Flags or emblems on the staff of the Flag;
5) to disrespect, dishonor or damage the Flag by writing or word or act in public places;
6) to prepare or use the Flag without the proper order of its colors and size or its Emblem;
7) to fly the Flag beyond the permitted time;
8) to use the Flag for table or any other material covering at meetings or similar gatherings;
9) to use the Flag as a covering for a building;
10) to use the Flag in any form of commercial advertisement;
11) not to show the proper respect at the hoisting and lowering of the Flag;
The 2009 Flag Proclamation, in addition to detailed stipulations on the use of the flag in various places and occasions, had established, for the first time in the modern history of the nation, a National Flag day.
http://hornaffairs.com/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2011/09/ethiopian-flag-since-1995.jpg
However,the 1995 Constitution of the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia, declared that:
Article 3 [of the Constitution]
The Ethiopian Flag
1. The Ethiopian flag shall consist of green at the top, yellow in the middle and red at the bottom, and shall have a national emblem at the centre. The three colours shall be set horizontally in equal dimension.
...
Ethiopian Flag since 1995
Subsequently, in 1996, the Federal Parliament issued a proclamation that defines the Ethiopian flag as follows:
Colors and Shape of the Flag
1/ The Flag shall have the colors: green at the top, yellow at the middle and red at the bottom together with a National Emblem of circular blue background. The Emblem shall be set at the centre of the Flag in such a way that its circumference curves on the midpoint of the width of both the green and red colors.
2/ The colors shall be bright and basic.
3/ The colors shall be structured horizontally and be of the same size. The length of the Flag shall be twice its width.
4/ The Emblem shall be a blue circle with depictions;
a) straight and equal lines of yellow that come from all directions and join each other;
b) a star formed by the straight and equal lines;
c) yellow rays radiating from the points where the straight and equal lines cross each other.
According to the 1996 Flag and Emblem Proclamation, the meaning of the colors and the emblem is:
Meaning of the Colors of the Flag
The colors of the Flag shall represent the following meanings:
1/ the green for labor, fertility and development;
2/ the yellow for hope, justice and equality; and
3/ the red for sacrifice and heroism towards the prevalence of freedom and equality.
Meaning of the Emblem
1/ The circular blue background of the Emblem signifies peace.
2/ The straight and equal lines signify the equality of Nations, Nationalities and Peoples as well as of Religions.
3/ The star formed by the straight and equal lines signify the unity founded by the Nations, Nationalities and Peoples of Ethiopia of their common will.
4/ The yellow rays signify the bright prospect in sight for the Nations, Nationalities and Peoples united of their common will.
The new Flag Proclamation, issued in 2009, merely repeated these provisions and provided for the unity of the flag. That is: The Flag of the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia shall only be of the colors of Green, Yellow, Red and blue circular background as provided hereinabove, together with the Emblem at centre, as specified in this Proclamation.
The Proclamation also provided a list ‘prohibited activities’, as follows:
It is prohibited to commit any of the following:
1) to use the Flag without its Emblem as provided under this Proclamation;
2) to deface the Flag by writing or displaying sings, symbols, emblems or picture;
3) to use an old, faded or torn Flag;
4) to fasten advertisements, notices or other Flags or emblems on the staff of the Flag;
5) to disrespect, dishonor or damage the Flag by writing or word or act in public places;
6) to prepare or use the Flag without the proper order of its colors and size or its Emblem;
7) to fly the Flag beyond the permitted time;
8) to use the Flag for table or any other material covering at meetings or similar gatherings;
9) to use the Flag as a covering for a building;
10) to use the Flag in any form of commercial advertisement;
11) not to show the proper respect at the hoisting and lowering of the Flag;
The 2009 Flag Proclamation, in addition to detailed stipulations on the use of the flag in various places and occasions, had established, for the first time in the modern history of the nation, a National Flag day.
http://hornaffairs.com/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2011/09/ethiopian-flag-since-1995.jpg
14 March 2016 03:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
In 1987, when the military junta declared to the establishment a Peoples’ Democratic Republic with a new Constitution, a new emblem was put at the center of the horizontally striped green-yellow-red colors of the flag. The new emblem consisted a five pointed star and rays over a cogwheel surrounded by a wreath of green leaves. The shield was circular in shape, its blue bearing the obelisk of Axum, a cogwheel, a red ribbon depicting a golden lion’s head, an spear and a scepter, a yellow star on red and a the country’s new name, People’s Democratic Republic of Ethiopia, written at the top in Geez scripts.
Ethiopia Flag from 1987-1991
The current ruling party, EPRDF, simply removed the coat of arms and used the horizontally striped green-yellow-red colors as a flag from 1991-1995 – the transitional period. Perhaps, that was the only time, at least in the last century, the a simple green-yellow-red flag served as official flag of the nation.
http://hornaffairs.com/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2011/09/ethiopia-flag-from-1987-1991.gif
Ethiopia Flag from 1987-1991
The current ruling party, EPRDF, simply removed the coat of arms and used the horizontally striped green-yellow-red colors as a flag from 1991-1995 – the transitional period. Perhaps, that was the only time, at least in the last century, the a simple green-yellow-red flag served as official flag of the nation.
http://hornaffairs.com/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2011/09/ethiopia-flag-from-1987-1991.gif
14 March 2016 03:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The Marxists-military junta led by President Mengistu Hailemariam, known as Provisional Military Administrative Council(PMAC), aka Dergue, made three alterations.
First, immediately after seizing power in 1974, it removed the crown and replaced the cross on the lion with a spear,naming it ‘the Lion of Ethiopia’.
Ethiopia Flag before 1974-1975
It was changed a year later, in 1975, however.
The lion was removed altogether and replaced by another emblem signifying the socialist character of the state.
The new emblem, which lasted from 1975-1987, consisted a man and a woman standing facing each other with a hammer and a sickle on their hands held above their heads.
http://hornaffairs.com/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2011/09/ethiopia-flag-before-1974-1975.gif
First, immediately after seizing power in 1974, it removed the crown and replaced the cross on the lion with a spear,naming it ‘the Lion of Ethiopia’.
Ethiopia Flag before 1974-1975
It was changed a year later, in 1975, however.
The lion was removed altogether and replaced by another emblem signifying the socialist character of the state.
The new emblem, which lasted from 1975-1987, consisted a man and a woman standing facing each other with a hammer and a sickle on their hands held above their heads.
http://hornaffairs.com/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2011/09/ethiopia-flag-before-1974-1975.gif
14 March 2016 03:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Of course, the three colors, green, yellow, and red, are not alien to Ethiopia. Several sources indicate that the three colors ‘appeared in different orders during different reigns, and sometimes white was substituted for yellow, and blue instead of green. Emperor Yohannes IV also used an additional banner of two red horizontal stripes separated by a yellow stripe.’
An account of an Italian historian, Manoel Barradas, indicates Ethiopians attachment with the colors dates back to the 17th century. Yet, according to Barradas, the red color was at the top until the 19th century.
In the last 114 years, the horizontally striped green-yellow-red colors of the flag remained unaltered while the emblem had been altered at least 5 times.
The first written Constitution of 1932, enacted during the reign of Emperor Haileslasie I (1892-1975), stipulated that the flag consists the green-yellow-red colors with an imperial coat of arms in the middle. The coat of arms, named the ‘Conquering Lion of Judah’, had been a lion holding a staff topped by a cross with ribbons in green-yellow-red.
http://hornaffairs.com/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2011/09/ethiopia-flag-before-1932-1974.gif
An account of an Italian historian, Manoel Barradas, indicates Ethiopians attachment with the colors dates back to the 17th century. Yet, according to Barradas, the red color was at the top until the 19th century.
In the last 114 years, the horizontally striped green-yellow-red colors of the flag remained unaltered while the emblem had been altered at least 5 times.
The first written Constitution of 1932, enacted during the reign of Emperor Haileslasie I (1892-1975), stipulated that the flag consists the green-yellow-red colors with an imperial coat of arms in the middle. The coat of arms, named the ‘Conquering Lion of Judah’, had been a lion holding a staff topped by a cross with ribbons in green-yellow-red.
http://hornaffairs.com/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2011/09/ethiopia-flag-before-1932-1974.gif
14 March 2016 03:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Noticeably, it was a year after the Ethio-Italian war of 1996.
Ethiopian Flag 1987 - Emperor Menelik era
Of course, the three colors, green, yellow, and red, are not alien to Ethiopia. Several sources indicate that the three colors ‘appeared in different orders during different reigns, and sometimes white was substituted for yellow, and blue instead of green. Emperor Yohannes IV also used an additional banner of two red horizontal stripes separated by a yellow stripe.’
An account of an Italian historian, Manoel Barradas, indicates Ethiopians attachment with the colors dates back to the 17th century. Yet, according to Barradas, the red color was at the top until the 19th century.
In the last 114 years, the horizontally striped green-yellow-red colors of the flag remained unaltered while the emblem had been altered at least 5 times.
http://i2.wp.com/hornaffairs.com/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2011/09/ethiopian-flag-1987-emperor-menelik-era_thumb.jpg
Ethiopian Flag 1987 - Emperor Menelik era
Of course, the three colors, green, yellow, and red, are not alien to Ethiopia. Several sources indicate that the three colors ‘appeared in different orders during different reigns, and sometimes white was substituted for yellow, and blue instead of green. Emperor Yohannes IV also used an additional banner of two red horizontal stripes separated by a yellow stripe.’
An account of an Italian historian, Manoel Barradas, indicates Ethiopians attachment with the colors dates back to the 17th century. Yet, according to Barradas, the red color was at the top until the 19th century.
In the last 114 years, the horizontally striped green-yellow-red colors of the flag remained unaltered while the emblem had been altered at least 5 times.
http://i2.wp.com/hornaffairs.com/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2011/09/ethiopian-flag-1987-emperor-menelik-era_thumb.jpg
14 March 2016 03:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
While the idea of petitioning to the UN for the ‘retraction of the proclamation’ sounds bizarre, what’s more intriguing is how he figured out that Ethiopian had flag for 5000 years and its specific color composition all along.
After all, it is widely believed among historians that the ancient Indians or the Chinese were the first to use Flags, with the ‘white flag’ of the Chou dynasty in China (about 3000 years ago) considered the first. Hailu Shawel et al appears to believe that the Ethiopian Flag predates that of Chou dynasty’s by some 2000 years. A claim I would like to believe if it were a historically supported one.
Quite to the contrary, Whitney Smith, who is Director of Flag Research Center and author of ‘The Flag Book of the United States and Flags and Arms Across the World’, states that:
Pennants of those three colours had been displayed before the first official flag was established by Emperor Menilek II on October 6, 1897; his flag bore on the yellow stripe the first letter of his name in Geez script.
http://hornaffairs.com/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2011/09/petition-aganst-the-flag-by-opposition-parties.jpg?0c163b
After all, it is widely believed among historians that the ancient Indians or the Chinese were the first to use Flags, with the ‘white flag’ of the Chou dynasty in China (about 3000 years ago) considered the first. Hailu Shawel et al appears to believe that the Ethiopian Flag predates that of Chou dynasty’s by some 2000 years. A claim I would like to believe if it were a historically supported one.
Quite to the contrary, Whitney Smith, who is Director of Flag Research Center and author of ‘The Flag Book of the United States and Flags and Arms Across the World’, states that:
Pennants of those three colours had been displayed before the first official flag was established by Emperor Menilek II on October 6, 1897; his flag bore on the yellow stripe the first letter of his name in Geez script.
http://hornaffairs.com/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2011/09/petition-aganst-the-flag-by-opposition-parties.jpg?0c163b
14 March 2016 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Of course, that is not how the public remembers the 2nd Flag Day rather by how the extreme Right of Ethiopia reacted to the Flag Proclamation. The part of the Proclamation that displeased the extreme Right reads:
Art. 16 [Flag Proclamation]
Unity of the Flag
The Flag of the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia shall only be of the colors of Green, Yellow, Red and blue circular background as provided hereinabove, together with the Emblem at centre, as specified in this Proclamation.
While many stood in opposition to the Flag Proclamation, either out of a habit of rejectionism or lack of information, the leaders of the political Right waged a persistent media campaign against it. A few, like Gebru Asrat, frm. President of Tigray Region, now one of the leaders of the opposition coalition Medrek, organized a meeting putting the flag without the emblem – apparently, trying to make it a sign of defiance, though the government simply ignored him.
But, as usual, Eng. Hailu Shawel, frm. Chairperson of the major opposition opposition coalition CUD/Kinijt in 2005, now Chair of AEUP (All Ethiopian Unity Party), trumped them all by taking the most extreme position on the matter.
He didn’t waste time to call the public to sign a petition that, he pledged, would be submitted to the United Nations, but, apparently, never did. The petition reads:
The Ethiopian Ruling party has changed the Ethiopian flag that has existed for more than 5000 years. In consequence, banned its use in all aspects of life, such as work places, weddings, and all ceremonies. However, the All Ethiopian Unity Party(AEUP) opposes the action taken by the government without the consent of the people. It has been collecting signature that will be presented to the United Nations for the retraction of the relevant proclamations. Consequently, the AEUP cordially requests to put your signature here bellow."
Art. 16 [Flag Proclamation]
Unity of the Flag
The Flag of the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia shall only be of the colors of Green, Yellow, Red and blue circular background as provided hereinabove, together with the Emblem at centre, as specified in this Proclamation.
While many stood in opposition to the Flag Proclamation, either out of a habit of rejectionism or lack of information, the leaders of the political Right waged a persistent media campaign against it. A few, like Gebru Asrat, frm. President of Tigray Region, now one of the leaders of the opposition coalition Medrek, organized a meeting putting the flag without the emblem – apparently, trying to make it a sign of defiance, though the government simply ignored him.
But, as usual, Eng. Hailu Shawel, frm. Chairperson of the major opposition opposition coalition CUD/Kinijt in 2005, now Chair of AEUP (All Ethiopian Unity Party), trumped them all by taking the most extreme position on the matter.
He didn’t waste time to call the public to sign a petition that, he pledged, would be submitted to the United Nations, but, apparently, never did. The petition reads:
The Ethiopian Ruling party has changed the Ethiopian flag that has existed for more than 5000 years. In consequence, banned its use in all aspects of life, such as work places, weddings, and all ceremonies. However, the All Ethiopian Unity Party(AEUP) opposes the action taken by the government without the consent of the people. It has been collecting signature that will be presented to the United Nations for the retraction of the relevant proclamations. Consequently, the AEUP cordially requests to put your signature here bellow."
14 March 2016 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Ethiopians are celebrating the National flag day for the fourth time today.
The previous three took place on July 5/’08 (Sene 28/’00), on Oct.5/’09 (Meskerem 25/’02), and on Sept.20/’10 (Meskerem 10/’03). The discrepancy in the dates is partly explicable.
The first National flag day was arranged in a catch-as-catch-can manner, since the idea came up very late and the government wanted the practice to begin alongside the celebrations of the 3rd Ethiopian Millennium. The then Minister of Foreign Affairs , Seyoum Mesfin, credited the idea to a journalist/presenter of Ethiopian Television.
The flag day celebration turn out well, but the difficulty of organizing such a national event just two days before the closing date of the fiscal year was also noted. Thus, the need to set another day for the event.
However, it is not clear how the second National Flag day took place on the last Monday of the Ethiopian month Meskerem – that is; Oct. 5/’09 or Meskerem 25/’02.
Because, the Flag Proclamation issued that year states that ‘the National Flag Day shall be celebrated at the national level every year on the second Monday of the Ethiopian month of Meskerem’. That Monday falls, on any given year, between Sept. 19 and 25 (or between Meskerem 9 and 15).
A literal translation of the Amharic version of the proclamation would be ‘every year on the month Meskerem on the second week Monday’. In that case, the date falls, on any given year, between Sept. 12 and 19 (or between Meskerem 2 and 8).
The third National Flag day concurs with the English version of the Flag Proclamation. But the second anniversary is inconsistent with either versions.
Nonetheless, whether by accident or by design, the second National Flag day nearly coincided with another historic date 114 years ago. The date Emperor Minilik issued a flag. Even, generally speaking, it is curious how the legislature picked, of all the days in a year, a Month and week that lies near to another historic day. A matter highly improbable to escape the person who proposed the date"
http://hornaffairs.com/en/2011/09/26/reality-check-the-ethiopian-flag-qua-politics/
The previous three took place on July 5/’08 (Sene 28/’00), on Oct.5/’09 (Meskerem 25/’02), and on Sept.20/’10 (Meskerem 10/’03). The discrepancy in the dates is partly explicable.
The first National flag day was arranged in a catch-as-catch-can manner, since the idea came up very late and the government wanted the practice to begin alongside the celebrations of the 3rd Ethiopian Millennium. The then Minister of Foreign Affairs , Seyoum Mesfin, credited the idea to a journalist/presenter of Ethiopian Television.
The flag day celebration turn out well, but the difficulty of organizing such a national event just two days before the closing date of the fiscal year was also noted. Thus, the need to set another day for the event.
However, it is not clear how the second National Flag day took place on the last Monday of the Ethiopian month Meskerem – that is; Oct. 5/’09 or Meskerem 25/’02.
Because, the Flag Proclamation issued that year states that ‘the National Flag Day shall be celebrated at the national level every year on the second Monday of the Ethiopian month of Meskerem’. That Monday falls, on any given year, between Sept. 19 and 25 (or between Meskerem 9 and 15).
A literal translation of the Amharic version of the proclamation would be ‘every year on the month Meskerem on the second week Monday’. In that case, the date falls, on any given year, between Sept. 12 and 19 (or between Meskerem 2 and 8).
The third National Flag day concurs with the English version of the Flag Proclamation. But the second anniversary is inconsistent with either versions.
Nonetheless, whether by accident or by design, the second National Flag day nearly coincided with another historic date 114 years ago. The date Emperor Minilik issued a flag. Even, generally speaking, it is curious how the legislature picked, of all the days in a year, a Month and week that lies near to another historic day. A matter highly improbable to escape the person who proposed the date"
http://hornaffairs.com/en/2011/09/26/reality-check-the-ethiopian-flag-qua-politics/
http://hornaffairs.com/en/2011/09/26/reality-check-the-ethiopian-flag-qua-politics/
14 March 2016 02:57
Margus Meigo replied to Adriana Iv's comment.
everyone who deals with these topics and finds balls to not tell the whole truth in best possible way i cant wait personally, the time to handle them
14 March 2016 02:57
Margus Meigo replied to Adriana Iv's comment.
Does he wear a tie?
Does he feel forced to wear it on meetings at times? Have You seen?
Does he feel forced to wear it on meetings at times? Have You seen?
14 March 2016 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but there is many others on it
comments: "Even though I have the greatest respect for the Tigray people as much as Oromos, and the rest of Ethiopia. Sorry my flag has no star. You don't get to make my love for my country and flag artificial ok. My flag has no star, lion, or any other symbol in the middle. It is a PURE yellow green and red. Once the current racist government fails the real flag will be restored for sure!"
"you're all so stupid if u believe in this video 5 pointed 6 pointed stars it doesn't matter! there is no star deviding men and woman as equals. if anything the star stands for spirituality or rank and higher power"
"No, the pentagram is Satanic because it represents balance and perfection. Satanism is all about true nature, not inverting nature."
"the 6 pointed star comes from the shield of king david who ruled in jerusalem, and since has been the sign for juadism, it has nothing to do with the male sex, it is true that the 5 pointed star is for female, but it is also taken from samuels shield which stood for fire and the name of g-d"
"As a matter of fact leonardo's vitruvian man that's supposed to be the inspiration for this rag, I mean flag, doesn't even look like an Ethiopian Hebrew. So who image or spirit is being projected into the Holy Land and mind of the people? What is man's number? Six right? Well, check the date that the flag was "voted" in. February (2) + (6) + (1996) = 2004 (2+4) = 6 the number of man"
"I may not know much but one thing I do know.....the numbers never lie! The symbol is clearly the symbol of "man". The question is not whether it's about "man" but rather what "kind" of man. There's a difference. "
"all symobls are evil. because every symbol is conected to spirit leader."
"pentagram is satanic because it symbolises human in an inverted state or in other words it is anti humanity as is satan you are precisely correct"
"That star on the Ethiopian flag does NOT represent ETHIOPIA or ETHIOPIANS!!! It only represents dirty EVIL Agames!!! Ethiopia is a Holy land! Everyone knows that there is GOOD & EVIL in Holy places, Dirty Agames are the EVIL in Holy Ethiopia!!! I am glad the whole world is starting to see how EVIL DIRTY AGAMES really are..., Death To Dirty EVIL Agames!!!! Ethiopia 4Everrrrrrrrrr....The Green~Yellow~Red with the Lion Of Judah Holding My Cross!!!!"
"ethiopia is a first class commercial scam in the donation buisness but the true images always show the shame of the oppressers weakness, money,you,and emotion dont pay the demon reprogram the strategy as a smart wealthy person.oprah?"
"they dont have anything to do with the bible but it was the symbol of davids kingdom that was actually in ethiopia and jeurselam thats why they can find any artifacts of kig david or his son in isreal becauese it is between egypt and ethiopia.look up Thutmose I king of egypt at the same time as david also shared same symbols"
" " " Order of the Star of David these are but a few of the masonic orders of Ethiopia, with direct links to Hiram Abiff him self, what I am trying to say is we know about the NWO, we know what the master plan is, we are just waiting for the right time to make a move, life is like a game of chess you have to think before you make a move, all is not lost in Ethiopia, there are people over there who overstand the situation and are ready to deal with the illuminate reptiles " " //" - careful with these also as they might attack many kinds.. but they are right.. just problem is illus.. is connected to..
"Man that part where you talked about how they are inverting nature. whoa! I never though about it that way.. This is getting heavy."
Well., now we do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8wJ6qjus7Y
comments: "Even though I have the greatest respect for the Tigray people as much as Oromos, and the rest of Ethiopia. Sorry my flag has no star. You don't get to make my love for my country and flag artificial ok. My flag has no star, lion, or any other symbol in the middle. It is a PURE yellow green and red. Once the current racist government fails the real flag will be restored for sure!"
"you're all so stupid if u believe in this video 5 pointed 6 pointed stars it doesn't matter! there is no star deviding men and woman as equals. if anything the star stands for spirituality or rank and higher power"
"No, the pentagram is Satanic because it represents balance and perfection. Satanism is all about true nature, not inverting nature."
"the 6 pointed star comes from the shield of king david who ruled in jerusalem, and since has been the sign for juadism, it has nothing to do with the male sex, it is true that the 5 pointed star is for female, but it is also taken from samuels shield which stood for fire and the name of g-d"
"As a matter of fact leonardo's vitruvian man that's supposed to be the inspiration for this rag, I mean flag, doesn't even look like an Ethiopian Hebrew. So who image or spirit is being projected into the Holy Land and mind of the people? What is man's number? Six right? Well, check the date that the flag was "voted" in. February (2) + (6) + (1996) = 2004 (2+4) = 6 the number of man"
"I may not know much but one thing I do know.....the numbers never lie! The symbol is clearly the symbol of "man". The question is not whether it's about "man" but rather what "kind" of man. There's a difference. "
"all symobls are evil. because every symbol is conected to spirit leader."
"pentagram is satanic because it symbolises human in an inverted state or in other words it is anti humanity as is satan you are precisely correct"
"That star on the Ethiopian flag does NOT represent ETHIOPIA or ETHIOPIANS!!! It only represents dirty EVIL Agames!!! Ethiopia is a Holy land! Everyone knows that there is GOOD & EVIL in Holy places, Dirty Agames are the EVIL in Holy Ethiopia!!! I am glad the whole world is starting to see how EVIL DIRTY AGAMES really are..., Death To Dirty EVIL Agames!!!! Ethiopia 4Everrrrrrrrrr....The Green~Yellow~Red with the Lion Of Judah Holding My Cross!!!!"
"ethiopia is a first class commercial scam in the donation buisness but the true images always show the shame of the oppressers weakness, money,you,and emotion dont pay the demon reprogram the strategy as a smart wealthy person.oprah?"
"they dont have anything to do with the bible but it was the symbol of davids kingdom that was actually in ethiopia and jeurselam thats why they can find any artifacts of kig david or his son in isreal becauese it is between egypt and ethiopia.look up Thutmose I king of egypt at the same time as david also shared same symbols"
" " " Order of the Star of David these are but a few of the masonic orders of Ethiopia, with direct links to Hiram Abiff him self, what I am trying to say is we know about the NWO, we know what the master plan is, we are just waiting for the right time to make a move, life is like a game of chess you have to think before you make a move, all is not lost in Ethiopia, there are people over there who overstand the situation and are ready to deal with the illuminate reptiles " " //" - careful with these also as they might attack many kinds.. but they are right.. just problem is illus.. is connected to..
"Man that part where you talked about how they are inverting nature. whoa! I never though about it that way.. This is getting heavy."
Well., now we do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8wJ6qjus7Y
14 March 2016 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// Side talk...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snezxcrV25w from lithuania hq
"...was a late night lover, but I still love her after midnight, and I don't want to blow my cover, but I think we can see what this looks like.... lot of fish in sea but .. french....part of a plan "
besides
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/group1crew/hesaid.html
..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XpE4kW3tkA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snezxcrV25w from lithuania hq
"...was a late night lover, but I still love her after midnight, and I don't want to blow my cover, but I think we can see what this looks like.... lot of fish in sea but .. french....part of a plan "
besides
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/group1crew/hesaid.html
..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XpE4kW3tkA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snezxcrV25w
14 March 2016 02:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"An alternative coat of arms featuring a five pointed star and rays over a cogwheel bounded by a wreath of leaves is now the featured emblem.
The star, which is a pentagram, is yellow on a blue disc, which lays on top of the green and red stripes.
The star confirms to Ethiopia’s bright future and possibly echoes the connection with the House of King Solomon, while the yellow rays which it emits are equidistant and are said to represent the equality of all Ethiopians regardless of race, creed, or gender."
The star, which is a pentagram, is yellow on a blue disc, which lays on top of the green and red stripes.
The star confirms to Ethiopia’s bright future and possibly echoes the connection with the House of King Solomon, while the yellow rays which it emits are equidistant and are said to represent the equality of all Ethiopians regardless of race, creed, or gender."
14 March 2016 02:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
step by step ...u ... (must breath calm here!)
"Before the adoption of the current flag, Ethiopia has come a long way. However, the three colors still featured in the flags. Initially, before the adoption of the rectangular flag, the country flew three colored pennants. By then, the red color was at the top. Between 1897 and 1974, they flew a flag with the lion of Judah. This flag is still popular among the followers of the Rastafari movements and those who are still loyal to Emperor Haile Selassie. After the overthrow of Haile Selassie, various significant changes were made. First, the crown was removed from the lion’s head. In addition, the cross finial to the spear point was also changed (1974-1975). This signified that Haile Selassie was no longer in power. The two significant changes paved way for more changes and between 1975 and 1987, the official flag did not feature the lion of Judah. From these facts, it is evident that before the adoption of the current flag, various changes and modifications have been made. However, it should be remembered that none of the three pan-African colors have been dropped."
http://buzzkenya.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Ethiopian_flag.png
"Before the adoption of the current flag, Ethiopia has come a long way. However, the three colors still featured in the flags. Initially, before the adoption of the rectangular flag, the country flew three colored pennants. By then, the red color was at the top. Between 1897 and 1974, they flew a flag with the lion of Judah. This flag is still popular among the followers of the Rastafari movements and those who are still loyal to Emperor Haile Selassie. After the overthrow of Haile Selassie, various significant changes were made. First, the crown was removed from the lion’s head. In addition, the cross finial to the spear point was also changed (1974-1975). This signified that Haile Selassie was no longer in power. The two significant changes paved way for more changes and between 1975 and 1987, the official flag did not feature the lion of Judah. From these facts, it is evident that before the adoption of the current flag, various changes and modifications have been made. However, it should be remembered that none of the three pan-African colors have been dropped."
http://buzzkenya.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Ethiopian_flag.png
http://buzzkenya.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Ethiopian_flag.png
14 March 2016 02:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hahaha what a jokers:
"The flag also features a star. The inclusion of a star in the flag was meant to represent the unity of all people who live in Ethiopia. It suggests that Ethiopians live together in harmony regardless of their races."
The flag also features five rays that are located on the outside of the star. The five rays represent prosperity and success. Ethiopia is a successful nation. It has continued to create various opportunities for its citizens. Currently, it is one of the fastest growing economies in the world. Several African countries owe a lot of their success to this wonderful country.
The Blue Disk
The blue disk on the flag represents peace. The five rays and the stars that are surrounded by the wreath of leaves is Ethiopia’s current emblem.
http://buzzkenya.com/ethiopia-flag/
"The flag also features a star. The inclusion of a star in the flag was meant to represent the unity of all people who live in Ethiopia. It suggests that Ethiopians live together in harmony regardless of their races."
The flag also features five rays that are located on the outside of the star. The five rays represent prosperity and success. Ethiopia is a successful nation. It has continued to create various opportunities for its citizens. Currently, it is one of the fastest growing economies in the world. Several African countries owe a lot of their success to this wonderful country.
The Blue Disk
The blue disk on the flag represents peace. The five rays and the stars that are surrounded by the wreath of leaves is Ethiopia’s current emblem.
http://buzzkenya.com/ethiopia-flag/
http://buzzkenya.com/ethiopia-flag/
14 March 2016 02:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
many other pentagrams and taking overs in there
http://www.ethiopians.com/EthiopiasSacredFlag_ProfessorNegussayAyele.pdf
http://www.ethiopians.com/EthiopiasSacredFlag_ProfessorNegussayAyele.pdf
14 March 2016 02:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.ethiopar.net/
Parliament of Ethiopia
The current political system is based on the framework of Federal parliamentary Republic which is headed by the Prime Minister and the executive power is held by the government. The parliament selects the Prime Minister and the Federal Legislative Power is held by the government and the two chambers of the parliament.
There are total 9 ethnically divided regions governed by the parliamentary system which includes Addis Ababa; Afar; Gambela; Amhara, Benishangul/Gumaz; Dire Dawa; Somali; Harar; Oromia; Southern Nations, Nationalities, and Peoples Region; Tigray.
Opposition parties
There are many opposition parties in the Ethiopian parliament which includes the UEDF, Somali People’s Democratic Party (SPDP), United Ethiopian Democratic Party-Medhin Party, Ethiopian Democratic League (EDL), All Ethiopian Unity Organization (AEUO), Gambela People’s Democratic Movement (GPDM), Oromo Federalist Democratic Movement (OFDM) and the Benishangul- Gumuz People’s Democratic Unity Front (BGPDUF).
E-mail : national.parliament@ethionet.et
Parliament of Ethiopia
The current political system is based on the framework of Federal parliamentary Republic which is headed by the Prime Minister and the executive power is held by the government. The parliament selects the Prime Minister and the Federal Legislative Power is held by the government and the two chambers of the parliament.
There are total 9 ethnically divided regions governed by the parliamentary system which includes Addis Ababa; Afar; Gambela; Amhara, Benishangul/Gumaz; Dire Dawa; Somali; Harar; Oromia; Southern Nations, Nationalities, and Peoples Region; Tigray.
Opposition parties
There are many opposition parties in the Ethiopian parliament which includes the UEDF, Somali People’s Democratic Party (SPDP), United Ethiopian Democratic Party-Medhin Party, Ethiopian Democratic League (EDL), All Ethiopian Unity Organization (AEUO), Gambela People’s Democratic Movement (GPDM), Oromo Federalist Democratic Movement (OFDM) and the Benishangul- Gumuz People’s Democratic Unity Front (BGPDUF).
E-mail : national.parliament@ethionet.et
http://www.ethiopar.net/
14 March 2016 02:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but yea, how do we know tho
14 March 2016 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
6:30 xD
14 March 2016 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i just cant believe he called Trump and offered him an idea about icecream cloves :D
man.. :D
man.. :D
14 March 2016 01:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
To a side point..
https://soundcloud.com/dmitry-filatov/imany-the-good-the-bad-and-the-crazy-filatov-karas-remix
https://soundcloud.com/dmitry-filatov/imany-the-good-the-bad-and-the-crazy-filatov-karas-remix
https://soundcloud.com/dmitry-filatov/imany-the-good-the-bad-and-the-crazy-filatov-karas-remix
14 March 2016 01:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Headquarters 777 United Nations Plaza, 9th Floor New York, NY 10017
Membership
Over 72 countries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religions_for_Peace
Membership
Over 72 countries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religions_for_Peace
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religions_for_Peace
14 March 2016 01:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
OKey, this Guy does not look soo bad also at first sight
Abune Paulos was a scholar and peace advocate and a former exile in the United States who has worked on reconciliation between Ethiopia and Eritrea. Patriarch Abune Paulos and the Ethiopian Orthodox Church were also involved in the support of war-displaced and drought-hit Ethiopians, making the Church one of the major "relief organisations" in the country. His peace efforts and humanitarian work were the main reasons for his being chosen to receive the Nansen Medal by the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNCHR).[13]
Patriarch Abune Paulos also met with President Omar Hassan Al-Bashir of Sudan in Khartoum to try to find a peaceful solution to the Darfur conflict that has been labeled as a genocide by Western critics. Abune Paulos said “No one loves Africa more than Africans.” The Patriarch stated that finding an "African solution" is significant to curb problems of the continent.[14] He also held talks with senior government officials and religious leaders during his five-day working visit to Khartoum and called for religious leaders to strengthen their efforts towards peace.[citation needed]
He served as a member of central committee of the World Council of Churches (WCC) and the Faith and Order commission, and attended the Nairobi assembly.[15] Abune Paulos was one of the rare exceptionally educated Patriarchs in Ethiopian history because he had completed various degrees and received his doctoral degree at prestigious institutions. Abune Paulos was one of the seven presidents of WCC as well.[16]
Abune Paulos served as an Honorary President of Religions for Peace, the world's largest and most representative multi-religious coalition, advancing common action among the world's religious communities for peace.[17]
Abune Paulos was a Knight Grand Collar of The Order of The Eagle of Georgia and The Seamless Tunic of our Lord Jesus Christ,[18] an order of the Royal family of Georgia Department of Education
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abune_Paulos
Abune Paulos was a scholar and peace advocate and a former exile in the United States who has worked on reconciliation between Ethiopia and Eritrea. Patriarch Abune Paulos and the Ethiopian Orthodox Church were also involved in the support of war-displaced and drought-hit Ethiopians, making the Church one of the major "relief organisations" in the country. His peace efforts and humanitarian work were the main reasons for his being chosen to receive the Nansen Medal by the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNCHR).[13]
Patriarch Abune Paulos also met with President Omar Hassan Al-Bashir of Sudan in Khartoum to try to find a peaceful solution to the Darfur conflict that has been labeled as a genocide by Western critics. Abune Paulos said “No one loves Africa more than Africans.” The Patriarch stated that finding an "African solution" is significant to curb problems of the continent.[14] He also held talks with senior government officials and religious leaders during his five-day working visit to Khartoum and called for religious leaders to strengthen their efforts towards peace.[citation needed]
He served as a member of central committee of the World Council of Churches (WCC) and the Faith and Order commission, and attended the Nairobi assembly.[15] Abune Paulos was one of the rare exceptionally educated Patriarchs in Ethiopian history because he had completed various degrees and received his doctoral degree at prestigious institutions. Abune Paulos was one of the seven presidents of WCC as well.[16]
Abune Paulos served as an Honorary President of Religions for Peace, the world's largest and most representative multi-religious coalition, advancing common action among the world's religious communities for peace.[17]
Abune Paulos was a Knight Grand Collar of The Order of The Eagle of Georgia and The Seamless Tunic of our Lord Jesus Christ,[18] an order of the Royal family of Georgia Department of Education
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abune_Paulos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abune_Paulos
14 March 2016 01:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
On this day in 1913 died the Ethiopian Emperor Menelik II – one of the most powerful rulers in Ethiopian history of the 19th and 20th century. He belonged to the famous Salomon dynasty, which, according to legend, was a direct descent from the biblical King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. Menelik II was at first a king of a region called Shewa, in the heart of present-day Ethiopia, where the current Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa is located. Through his conquests Menelik II expanded the area of governance, so that he had authority over an area larger than even present day Ethiopia. However, he later ceded Eritrea to the Italians and Djibouti to the French.
Menelik II had the title Nəgusä Nagast which is usually translated as Emperor of Ethiopia, and in the local language means something like “king of kings” or “ruler of rulers”. Menelik II was a cousin of the later famous Emperor Haile Selassie. Namely, the father of Haile Selassie – Ras Makonnen – was first cousin of Menelik II through the female line.
As emperor of Ethiopia, Menelik II opened his country to the West, seeking to modernize the country. Some call Menelik II “father of modern Ethiopia”. It is interesting that he even made friendships with Imperial Russia, from where he received counselors and volunteers. Particularly unusual is the statement that, after the victory over the Italians, who were trying to colonize Ethiopia, Menelik II allegedly held the captive Italians as slaves of a kind of. This created a paradox that at the peak of European colonialism in Africa, one dark-skinned ruler had white slaves.
http://history.info/on-this-day/1913-emperor-of-ethiopia-king-of-kings-and-descendant-of-the-biblical-king-solomon-and-queen-of-sheba/
also feelings about "https://ethiotarik.wordpress.com/the-mysterious-origin-of-the-flag-of-ethiopia/" :
"you called also Yohannis king of kings haa? he is a shruder who betrayed his country for money and power like the one in power know"
"Menilij II betrayed Yohannes IV during the battle of Metema."
"your stupidity is a sin please read a book"
"The flag with green,yellow and red collor without any thing added is the historic and non discriminitory! no need to design another flag"
Menelik II had the title Nəgusä Nagast which is usually translated as Emperor of Ethiopia, and in the local language means something like “king of kings” or “ruler of rulers”. Menelik II was a cousin of the later famous Emperor Haile Selassie. Namely, the father of Haile Selassie – Ras Makonnen – was first cousin of Menelik II through the female line.
As emperor of Ethiopia, Menelik II opened his country to the West, seeking to modernize the country. Some call Menelik II “father of modern Ethiopia”. It is interesting that he even made friendships with Imperial Russia, from where he received counselors and volunteers. Particularly unusual is the statement that, after the victory over the Italians, who were trying to colonize Ethiopia, Menelik II allegedly held the captive Italians as slaves of a kind of. This created a paradox that at the peak of European colonialism in Africa, one dark-skinned ruler had white slaves.
http://history.info/on-this-day/1913-emperor-of-ethiopia-king-of-kings-and-descendant-of-the-biblical-king-solomon-and-queen-of-sheba/
also feelings about "https://ethiotarik.wordpress.com/the-mysterious-origin-of-the-flag-of-ethiopia/" :
"you called also Yohannis king of kings haa? he is a shruder who betrayed his country for money and power like the one in power know"
"Menilij II betrayed Yohannes IV during the battle of Metema."
"your stupidity is a sin please read a book"
"The flag with green,yellow and red collor without any thing added is the historic and non discriminitory! no need to design another flag"
http://history.info/on-this-day/1913-emperor-of-ethiopia-king-of-kings-and-descendant-of-the-biblical-king-solomon-and-queen-of-sheba/
14 March 2016 01:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" The target was an usurper, Yusuf Hathar that had begun to make a name of himself consolidating power in the region. A recent convert to Judaism, he had become a client of the Sassanian Persians, avowed enemies of the Western Roman Empire. appealed for the Ethiopian Emperor. Ethiopian Imperial Army existed in one form or another since the founding of the Ethiopian Empire in the 13th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFROMET
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFROMET
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFROMET
14 March 2016 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
During the First Italo–Ethiopian War, the Army of the Ethiopian Empire was able to defeat the army of the Kingdom of Italy at the battle of Adwa.
During the Second Italo-Abyssinian War, the Army of the Ethiopian Empire consisted of the Imperial Bodyguard, a central army, and several armies of provincial forces. The Ethiopian army was defeated soundly, after giving considerable difficulty to the Italians. The Italians employed mass aerial bombing of mustard gas to win the Battle of Amba Aradam.
On 12 September 1974, a committee of low-ranking military officers and enlisted men called the Derg deposed Emperor Haile Selassie. The Army of the Ethiopian Empire became the Army of the People's Democratic Republic of Ethiopia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Expedition_to_Abyssinia
During the Second Italo-Abyssinian War, the Army of the Ethiopian Empire consisted of the Imperial Bodyguard, a central army, and several armies of provincial forces. The Ethiopian army was defeated soundly, after giving considerable difficulty to the Italians. The Italians employed mass aerial bombing of mustard gas to win the Battle of Amba Aradam.
On 12 September 1974, a committee of low-ranking military officers and enlisted men called the Derg deposed Emperor Haile Selassie. The Army of the Ethiopian Empire became the Army of the People's Democratic Republic of Ethiopia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Expedition_to_Abyssinia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Expedition_to_Abyssinia
14 March 2016 01:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
About the 2nd century AD, there arose the Axumites rapidly supplanting the Damot. The Axumite however paid homage to their former masters. The Judaic rulers of Damot were held in the highest esteem by the new Axumite Empire.
There is evidence in inscriptions and archaeological finds that attest to the presence of Axumite troops in Yemen as early as AD 200. This suggests that Axum was no less involved in the Arabian matters than Damot during the reigns of GDRT, and his successors `DBH and Sembrouthes, During the reign of Ousanas, Ezanas father, Axum traded and projected its influence as far as India, where coins minted in Ousanas' reign were discovered in 1990.
This lasted until the 4th century when Twin Axumite Emperors Ezana and Sezana became converted to the new Chritian Faith.
Axum's Armies were launched into the former tributary Kingdom of Nubia devastating it to the point it never recovered its former glory or was ever an independent polity again.
In 520, during the reign of Emperor Kaleb Ella Atsbeha, Axum received an appeal from the Eastern Roman Emperor Justinian. At first Axum re-occupied an abandoned fort at Najran with cavalry troops admonshing the local ruler Yusuf Hathar who as a consequence of his conversion to Judaism and the urging of the Persian Sassanian Kings had vigorously undertaken the persecution of Christian pilgrims. Axum was not a new power there Yusuf Hathar who had taken the throne name of Dhu Nuwas may have genuinely been mollified by his actions. The elderly commander Arayat, the uncle of the Emperor, led a company of cavalry into Najran charged with protecting Christian pilgrims on the road to Jerusalem from Banditry. However, peace proved fleeting: perhaps as a result of encouragement from the Persians else out of humiliation Dhu Nuwa's men attacked the Fort of Najran. What happened afterward is debated. By some accounts the garrison fought back and died. Witness later accused Dhu Nuwas of having killed the soldiers in their sleep and then massacring all others who had sought their protection.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_the_Ethiopian_Empire
There is evidence in inscriptions and archaeological finds that attest to the presence of Axumite troops in Yemen as early as AD 200. This suggests that Axum was no less involved in the Arabian matters than Damot during the reigns of GDRT, and his successors `DBH and Sembrouthes, During the reign of Ousanas, Ezanas father, Axum traded and projected its influence as far as India, where coins minted in Ousanas' reign were discovered in 1990.
This lasted until the 4th century when Twin Axumite Emperors Ezana and Sezana became converted to the new Chritian Faith.
Axum's Armies were launched into the former tributary Kingdom of Nubia devastating it to the point it never recovered its former glory or was ever an independent polity again.
In 520, during the reign of Emperor Kaleb Ella Atsbeha, Axum received an appeal from the Eastern Roman Emperor Justinian. At first Axum re-occupied an abandoned fort at Najran with cavalry troops admonshing the local ruler Yusuf Hathar who as a consequence of his conversion to Judaism and the urging of the Persian Sassanian Kings had vigorously undertaken the persecution of Christian pilgrims. Axum was not a new power there Yusuf Hathar who had taken the throne name of Dhu Nuwas may have genuinely been mollified by his actions. The elderly commander Arayat, the uncle of the Emperor, led a company of cavalry into Najran charged with protecting Christian pilgrims on the road to Jerusalem from Banditry. However, peace proved fleeting: perhaps as a result of encouragement from the Persians else out of humiliation Dhu Nuwa's men attacked the Fort of Najran. What happened afterward is debated. By some accounts the garrison fought back and died. Witness later accused Dhu Nuwas of having killed the soldiers in their sleep and then massacring all others who had sought their protection.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_the_Ethiopian_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_the_Ethiopian_Empire
14 March 2016 01:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.
http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=216230
http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=216230
http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=216230
14 March 2016 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on Tony Wilu's post.
Nagu Eestlased alles nüüd avastaksid, et Norra-Rootslaste deemonite poolt tehtud ju ka Venemaa... ja Pranslaste valitsust normannide kaudu juhitud.. kes omakorda inglismaa viimased tuhat aastat vandistanud... need tulnarid jah..
kunagi iidesl ajal vana eestlaste inimliigirass olevat atlantise nende robotitega põhja lasknud musta maagiaga hyppama hakkamise pärast ja siis mu arust need samad need kes siis viirusena läbi norrakate ja nende eesõiguslaste siia ilma uuesti ilmunud.. kuid eks näis..
venemaa väga huvitatud nüüüd uute mütoloogiate osas mis sobiks igale riigile sedasi, et neid upitaks ja samas kogu võimu viisnurga alla allutaks
kunagi iidesl ajal vana eestlaste inimliigirass olevat atlantise nende robotitega põhja lasknud musta maagiaga hyppama hakkamise pärast ja siis mu arust need samad need kes siis viirusena läbi norrakate ja nende eesõiguslaste siia ilma uuesti ilmunud.. kuid eks näis..
venemaa väga huvitatud nüüüd uute mütoloogiate osas mis sobiks igale riigile sedasi, et neid upitaks ja samas kogu võimu viisnurga alla allutaks
14 March 2016 01:14
Margus Meigo commented on Tony Wilu's post.
Sul on ikka karmid postitused : )
14 March 2016 01:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
What it should have been all the time:
There's two palettes of colors known as pan-African colors: one is composed by red, yellow and green, while the other contains red, black and green.
The first set of color (green, yellow and red) is inspired by the flag of Ethiopian Empire.
This three colors have been specially used in Ethiopia since about 17th century, but the flag was only adopted in 1897. The meaning of the colors is disputed, but generally it's said that red is for the blood spilled in defense of Ethiopia , yellow is for the peace and harmony between Ethiopian ethnic and religious groups, and green for hope or land's fertility. The insignia in the middle of the flag is the Lion of Judah, used because the Ethiopian Dynasty claimed to have ancestry from King Solomon and Queen of Sheba, being named Solomonic Dynasty.
As Ethiopia, with exception of a brief period of Italian rule, resisted strongly to European colonization, many countries adopted this colors when gained independence from European countries, as symbol of sovereignty. They are also much used by the Rastafari Movement.
Other set of colors also known as "Pan-African colors" are composed by red, black and green, derived from UNIA (Universal Negro Improvement Association) flag.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v382djLoGQ4/UHx9Scs9w6I/AAAAAAAAA5A/bYdqFTpcOJ4/s1600/ethiopian-empire.png
There's two palettes of colors known as pan-African colors: one is composed by red, yellow and green, while the other contains red, black and green.
The first set of color (green, yellow and red) is inspired by the flag of Ethiopian Empire.
This three colors have been specially used in Ethiopia since about 17th century, but the flag was only adopted in 1897. The meaning of the colors is disputed, but generally it's said that red is for the blood spilled in defense of Ethiopia , yellow is for the peace and harmony between Ethiopian ethnic and religious groups, and green for hope or land's fertility. The insignia in the middle of the flag is the Lion of Judah, used because the Ethiopian Dynasty claimed to have ancestry from King Solomon and Queen of Sheba, being named Solomonic Dynasty.
As Ethiopia, with exception of a brief period of Italian rule, resisted strongly to European colonization, many countries adopted this colors when gained independence from European countries, as symbol of sovereignty. They are also much used by the Rastafari Movement.
Other set of colors also known as "Pan-African colors" are composed by red, black and green, derived from UNIA (Universal Negro Improvement Association) flag.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v382djLoGQ4/UHx9Scs9w6I/AAAAAAAAA5A/bYdqFTpcOJ4/s1600/ethiopian-empire.png
13 March 2016 23:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
87 to 91
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13 March 2016 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Is there have been changes? Yes.. the pentagram has been installed more deep perhaps..
"October 31, 1996
Revision 1897, 1974, 1955, 1975, 1987, 1991, 1996,
Design and Colors A horizontal tricolor of green, yellow and red with the national emblem of Ethiopia superimposed at the center."
The flag of Ethiopia is a horizontal tricolor of green, yellow, and red from top to bottom. Centered on the flag is a blue circle with a yellow five-pointed star. The flag of Ethiopia was adopted on August 28, 2009.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Flag_of_Ethiopia.svg/2000px-Flag_of_Ethiopia.svg.png
"October 31, 1996
Revision 1897, 1974, 1955, 1975, 1987, 1991, 1996,
Design and Colors A horizontal tricolor of green, yellow and red with the national emblem of Ethiopia superimposed at the center."
The flag of Ethiopia is a horizontal tricolor of green, yellow, and red from top to bottom. Centered on the flag is a blue circle with a yellow five-pointed star. The flag of Ethiopia was adopted on August 28, 2009.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Flag_of_Ethiopia.svg/2000px-Flag_of_Ethiopia.svg.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Flag_of_Ethiopia.svg/2000px-Flag_of_Ethiopia.svg.png
13 March 2016 23:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
On other interesting dude:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berhanu_Bayeh
On 19 April 1983 Mengistu appointed him Minister of Labor and Social Affairs, and on 12 September 1984 he became a member of the Politburo of the Workers' Party of Ethiopia.[2]
Berhanu Bayeh currently resides in the Italian Embassy in Addis Ababa [5] where he has obtained safe haven after the Ethiopian People's Revolutionary Democratic Front army entered Addis Ababa May 28, 1991. On 2 June 2004, he killed his fellow Ethiopian refugee, former president Tesfaye Gebre Kidan in a braw
// was he like 70 years old when getting in to fight ot kill the other commie ?
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Berhanu Beyeh (born 1938) was a politician in Ethiopia. He was Foreign Minister during the People's Democratic Republic of Ethiopia (1986–1989). Prior to that, he was chairman of the Derg's committee for legal affairs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berhanu_Bayeh
On 19 April 1983 Mengistu appointed him Minister of Labor and Social Affairs, and on 12 September 1984 he became a member of the Politburo of the Workers' Party of Ethiopia.[2]
Berhanu Bayeh currently resides in the Italian Embassy in Addis Ababa [5] where he has obtained safe haven after the Ethiopian People's Revolutionary Democratic Front army entered Addis Ababa May 28, 1991. On 2 June 2004, he killed his fellow Ethiopian refugee, former president Tesfaye Gebre Kidan in a braw
// was he like 70 years old when getting in to fight ot kill the other commie ?
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Berhanu Beyeh (born 1938) was a politician in Ethiopia. He was Foreign Minister during the People's Democratic Republic of Ethiopia (1986–1989). Prior to that, he was chairman of the Derg's committee for legal affairs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berhanu_Bayeh
13 March 2016 23:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
// but damage was already done and new implementing can only be clean if it is clean.. only based on church leadership can you see if a new gov is real or not
13 March 2016 23:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Upon entering Addis Ababa, the EPRDF immediately disbanded the WPE and arrested almost all of the prominent Derg officials shortly after. In December 2006, 73 officials of the Derg were found guilty of genocide. Thirty-four people were in court, 14 others had died during the lengthy process, and 25, including Mengistu, were tried in absentia. The trial ended 26 May 2008, and many of the officials were sentenced to death. In December 2010, the Ethiopian government commuted the death sentence of 23 Derg officials. On October 4, 2011, 16 former Derg officials were freed, after twenty years of incarceration. The Ethiopian government paroled almost all of those Derg officials who had been jailed for 20 years.
13 March 2016 23:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" The geopolitical situations turned unfavorable for the communist government in the late 1980s, with the Soviet Union retreating from the expansion of Communism under Mikhail Gorbachev's glasnost and perestroika. Socialist bloc countries drastically reduced their aid to Ethiopia, struggling to keep their own economies going. This resulted in even more economic hardship, and the military gave way in the face of determined onslaughts by guerrilla forces in the north. The Soviet Union stopped aiding the PDRE altogether in December 1990. Together with the fall of Communism in the Eastern Bloc in the Revolutions of 1989, this was a serious blow to the PDRE.
Towards the end of January 1991, a coalition of rebel forces, the Ethiopian People's Revolutionary Democratic Front (EPRDF) captured Gondar, the ancient capital city, Bahar Dar, and Dessie. Meanwhile, the Eritrean People's Liberation Front had gained control of all of Eritrea except for Asmara and Assab in the south. The Soviet Union, mired in its internal turmoil, could no longer prop up the Derg
Towards the end of January 1991, a coalition of rebel forces, the Ethiopian People's Revolutionary Democratic Front (EPRDF) captured Gondar, the ancient capital city, Bahar Dar, and Dessie. Meanwhile, the Eritrean People's Liberation Front had gained control of all of Eritrea except for Asmara and Assab in the south. The Soviet Union, mired in its internal turmoil, could no longer prop up the Derg
13 March 2016 23:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Many of the Derg members remained in key government posts, and also served as the members of the Central Committee and the Politburo of the Workers' Party of Ethiopia (WPE). This became Ethiopia's civilian version of the Eastern bloc Communist parties. Mengistu became Secretary General of the WPE, President of the PDRE, while remaining Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces."
Opposition to the reign of the Derg was the cause of the Ethiopian Civil War. This conflict began as extralegal violence between 1975 and 1977, known as the Red Terror, when the Derg struggled for authority, first with various opposition groups, then with a variety of groups jockeying for the role of vanguard party. Though human rights violations were committed by both sides, the great majority of abuses against civilians as well as actions leading to devastating famine were committed by the government.[13]
Once the Derg had gained victory over these groups and successfully fought off an invasion from Somalia in 1977, it engaged in a brutal war against armed opponents. These groups included guerrillas fighting for Eritrean independence, rebels based in Tigray (which included the nascent Tigrayan Peoples' Liberation Front), and other groups that ranged from the conservative and pro-monarchy Ethiopian Democratic Union to the far leftist Ethiopian People's Revolutionary Party. Under the Derg, Ethiopia became the Soviet bloc's closest ally in Africa, and became among the best armed nations of the region as a result of massive military aid, chiefly from the Soviet Union, East Germany, Cuba and North Korea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Civil_War
Opposition to the reign of the Derg was the cause of the Ethiopian Civil War. This conflict began as extralegal violence between 1975 and 1977, known as the Red Terror, when the Derg struggled for authority, first with various opposition groups, then with a variety of groups jockeying for the role of vanguard party. Though human rights violations were committed by both sides, the great majority of abuses against civilians as well as actions leading to devastating famine were committed by the government.[13]
Once the Derg had gained victory over these groups and successfully fought off an invasion from Somalia in 1977, it engaged in a brutal war against armed opponents. These groups included guerrillas fighting for Eritrean independence, rebels based in Tigray (which included the nascent Tigrayan Peoples' Liberation Front), and other groups that ranged from the conservative and pro-monarchy Ethiopian Democratic Union to the far leftist Ethiopian People's Revolutionary Party. Under the Derg, Ethiopia became the Soviet bloc's closest ally in Africa, and became among the best armed nations of the region as a result of massive military aid, chiefly from the Soviet Union, East Germany, Cuba and North Korea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Civil_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Civil_War
13 March 2016 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Only after the Marxist Derg Revolution that toppled Haile Selassie and appointed their own Patriarch over the Church, did the requirement become enforced for prospective baptisees in Jamaica to renounce his divinity and cut their dreadlocks."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derg
Derg executed and imprisoned tens of thousands of its opponents without trial.
In 1987 Mengistu Haile Mariam abolished the Derg, establishing the People's Democratic Republic of Ethiopia. After years of warfare by a coalition of ethnic-based parties, Mengistu was overthrown in 1991.
//(still have to see what kind of they did and why..)
The Derg, Common Derg or Dergue (Ge'ez: ደርግ, meaning "committee" or "council") is the short name of the Coordinating Committee of the Armed Forces, Police, and Territorial Army that ruled Ethiopia from 1974 to 1987. It took power following the ousting of Emperor Haile Selassie I
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derg
Derg executed and imprisoned tens of thousands of its opponents without trial.
In 1987 Mengistu Haile Mariam abolished the Derg, establishing the People's Democratic Republic of Ethiopia. After years of warfare by a coalition of ethnic-based parties, Mengistu was overthrown in 1991.
//(still have to see what kind of they did and why..)
The Derg, Common Derg or Dergue (Ge'ez: ደርግ, meaning "committee" or "council") is the short name of the Coordinating Committee of the Armed Forces, Police, and Territorial Army that ruled Ethiopia from 1974 to 1987. It took power following the ousting of Emperor Haile Selassie I
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derg
13 March 2016 23:10
Margus Meigo commented on Rasta Odin Kult's link.
" Only after the Marxist Derg Revolution that toppled Haile Selassie and appointed their own Patriarch over the Church, did the requirement become enforced for prospective baptisees in Jamaica to renounce his divinity and cut their dreadlocks."
13 March 2016 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on Rasta Odin Kult's link.
"" However, the New York City authorities took the side of the newly appointed Patriarch, and police interrupted a Church service on 9 August 1998 with guns drawn, using profanity, handcuffed children, and took possession of the Church in the name of Abuna Paulos."
NY supported forces to gun down old recognized REAL Orthodox forces IN Ethiopia... as we read here? ? Well.. was to real innit?
" new government of the EPRDF took power in Ethiopia and appointed their own Patriarch, Abuna Paulos. Abuna Yesehaq refused to recognise this political change, pointing out that according to the ancient Church canons, the Church leaders are to remain in office until they pass away, and cannot be dismissed or reappointed by any secular government.""
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abuna_Yesehaq
NY supported forces to gun down old recognized REAL Orthodox forces IN Ethiopia... as we read here? ? Well.. was to real innit?
" new government of the EPRDF took power in Ethiopia and appointed their own Patriarch, Abuna Paulos. Abuna Yesehaq refused to recognise this political change, pointing out that according to the ancient Church canons, the Church leaders are to remain in office until they pass away, and cannot be dismissed or reappointed by any secular government.""
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abuna_Yesehaq
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abuna_Yesehaq
13 March 2016 23:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey, did You just read it ?
" However, the New York City authorities took the side of the newly appointed Patriarch, and police interrupted a Church service on 9 August 1998 with guns drawn, using profanity, handcuffed children, and took possession of the Church in the name of Abuna Paulos."
NY supported forces to gun down old recognized REAL Orthodox forces IN Ethiopia... as we read here? ? Well.. was to real innit?
" new government of the EPRDF took power in Ethiopia and appointed their own Patriarch, Abuna Paulos. Abuna Yesehaq refused to recognise this political change, pointing out that according to the ancient Church canons, the Church leaders are to remain in office until they pass away, and cannot be dismissed or reappointed by any secular government."
" However, the New York City authorities took the side of the newly appointed Patriarch, and police interrupted a Church service on 9 August 1998 with guns drawn, using profanity, handcuffed children, and took possession of the Church in the name of Abuna Paulos."
NY supported forces to gun down old recognized REAL Orthodox forces IN Ethiopia... as we read here? ? Well.. was to real innit?
" new government of the EPRDF took power in Ethiopia and appointed their own Patriarch, Abuna Paulos. Abuna Yesehaq refused to recognise this political change, pointing out that according to the ancient Church canons, the Church leaders are to remain in office until they pass away, and cannot be dismissed or reappointed by any secular government."
13 March 2016 23:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so serious Ortodox ppl here.. not some soft wanna be lutherians or anything..
13 March 2016 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Abuna Yesehaq, born Laike Maryam Mandefro in Adwa, Ethiopia, 1933; died 29 December 2005 Newark, New Jersey, was a leader of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church in the Western hemisphere.
Mandefro was born to an Orthodox Christian family, attended Christian school, and joined the priesthood. He was one of the clerics fortunate enough to be tutored personally by Emperor Haile Selassie I, the titular head of the Church.
In October 1959, the Ethiopian Orthodox Church officially established a branch in New York; Abba Laike Mandefro, as he was then known, was sent there in 1963 and was given the task of finding a more suitable building for the Church, which was purchased in 1966. Mandefro then returned to Ethiopia to seek assistance for renovations; unfortunately the building was taken by the New York City authorities in his absence.
With the assistance of Emperor Haile Selassie, and the Ethiopian consulate in New York, Mandefro returned to New York City and purchased another site for the Church in 1969.
In 1970, he was sent to Jamaica where he began to minister specifically to the Rastafari community, at the official invitation of Rasta elders including Joseph Hibbert, who was in turn named as a "Spiritual Organizer" by Mandefro. Many government officials and others in Jamaica were deeply disappointed that Abba Mandefro defended the Rastafarians' faith on many occasions, and that he baptised thousands of them, pointedly refusing to denounce their faith in Haile Selassie as the returned Christ. On the other hand, a large number of other Rastas were likewise disappointed because he would not baptise them in the name of the Emperor, but only in the name of Jesus Christ. This however did not disturb those Rastas who viewed Christ and Haile Selassie as one and the same, and readily underwent baptism at the hands of this man who had been sent from Ethiopia by their living God. Only after the Marxist Derg Revolution that toppled Haile Selassie and appointed their own Patriarch over the Church, did the requirement become enforced for prospective baptisees in Jamaica to renounce his divinity and cut their dreadlocks.
Abba Mandefro also founded many Orthodox Churches throughout the Caribbean and elsewhere, and received the title "Archbishop Yesehaq of the Western Hemisphere and South Africa" in 1979. On 4 November 1980, he baptized world-renowned Rastafari musician Bob Marley, then suffering from terminal illness, into the church.[1][2]
In the 1990s, a schism happened in the Orthodox Church when the new government of the EPRDF took power in Ethiopia and appointed their own Patriarch, Abuna Paulos. Abuna Yesehaq refused to recognise this political change, pointing out that according to the ancient Church canons, the Church leaders are to remain in office until they pass away, and cannot be dismissed or reappointed by any secular government. However, the New York City authorities took the side of the newly appointed Patriarch, and police interrupted a Church service on 9 August 1998 with guns drawn, using profanity, handcuffed children, and took possession of the Church in the name of Abuna Paulos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abuna_Yesehaq
Mandefro was born to an Orthodox Christian family, attended Christian school, and joined the priesthood. He was one of the clerics fortunate enough to be tutored personally by Emperor Haile Selassie I, the titular head of the Church.
In October 1959, the Ethiopian Orthodox Church officially established a branch in New York; Abba Laike Mandefro, as he was then known, was sent there in 1963 and was given the task of finding a more suitable building for the Church, which was purchased in 1966. Mandefro then returned to Ethiopia to seek assistance for renovations; unfortunately the building was taken by the New York City authorities in his absence.
With the assistance of Emperor Haile Selassie, and the Ethiopian consulate in New York, Mandefro returned to New York City and purchased another site for the Church in 1969.
In 1970, he was sent to Jamaica where he began to minister specifically to the Rastafari community, at the official invitation of Rasta elders including Joseph Hibbert, who was in turn named as a "Spiritual Organizer" by Mandefro. Many government officials and others in Jamaica were deeply disappointed that Abba Mandefro defended the Rastafarians' faith on many occasions, and that he baptised thousands of them, pointedly refusing to denounce their faith in Haile Selassie as the returned Christ. On the other hand, a large number of other Rastas were likewise disappointed because he would not baptise them in the name of the Emperor, but only in the name of Jesus Christ. This however did not disturb those Rastas who viewed Christ and Haile Selassie as one and the same, and readily underwent baptism at the hands of this man who had been sent from Ethiopia by their living God. Only after the Marxist Derg Revolution that toppled Haile Selassie and appointed their own Patriarch over the Church, did the requirement become enforced for prospective baptisees in Jamaica to renounce his divinity and cut their dreadlocks.
Abba Mandefro also founded many Orthodox Churches throughout the Caribbean and elsewhere, and received the title "Archbishop Yesehaq of the Western Hemisphere and South Africa" in 1979. On 4 November 1980, he baptized world-renowned Rastafari musician Bob Marley, then suffering from terminal illness, into the church.[1][2]
In the 1990s, a schism happened in the Orthodox Church when the new government of the EPRDF took power in Ethiopia and appointed their own Patriarch, Abuna Paulos. Abuna Yesehaq refused to recognise this political change, pointing out that according to the ancient Church canons, the Church leaders are to remain in office until they pass away, and cannot be dismissed or reappointed by any secular government. However, the New York City authorities took the side of the newly appointed Patriarch, and police interrupted a Church service on 9 August 1998 with guns drawn, using profanity, handcuffed children, and took possession of the Church in the name of Abuna Paulos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abuna_Yesehaq
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abuna_Yesehaq
13 March 2016 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's live video.
Hey Again people... fro man the part of the world that.. : )
13 March 2016 22:56
Margus Meigo commented on Sree Sreenivasan's live video.
: )
13 March 2016 22:56
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Palmer's comment.
"anti rassist" agenda is alien homo crap, to try to force as to accept everyone as same species so they can infiltrate more easy and mix as rabbits, so the dna proof will look smaller and smaller
13 March 2016 22:24
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Palmer's comment.
Yes, i hope you was not hoping, that pentagram people are related to humans by blood and plan ?
13 March 2016 22:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More on the road 20+ min: https://soundcloud.com/deecon_music/deecon-summer-soundtrack-vol1
13 March 2016 22:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://soundcloud.com/sickmindsmedia/wonderful-life-kenny-fontana?in=chantel-keating/sets/bath-1
https://soundcloud.com/sickmindsmedia/wonderful-life-kenny-fontana?in=chantel-keating%2Fsets%2Fbath-1
13 March 2016 22:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but clean ones will have proper home
13 March 2016 21:58
Margus Meigo commented on Rasta Odin Kult's link.
most people who smoke proper become One god loving, that is basic
as herb is from a Lord to make us smarter about deceptions and possibilities we have here,
good people and good believers are tricked against this herb by demons
as herb is from a Lord to make us smarter about deceptions and possibilities we have here,
good people and good believers are tricked against this herb by demons
13 March 2016 21:58
Margus Meigo commented on Rasta Odin Kult's post.
But that is not a REAL organization right ?
13 March 2016 21:56
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
first rule is that if anyone is against the matriarchal nature loving religious core, against bible as an end result, then them can not be good in the end, as they will be directed against the good with simple manipulation,
if anyone is protector of alcohol and cigarettes, them also can not be good
if anyone is against psychedelics evil way then them can not be good,
if anyone is against racism them also most jellylike can not be to good as they not know the reason and ways how we are made - racism is LOVE of races., not destroying them by mixing
also clean food, against white sugar, fresh fruits, vegetarianism is good but some meats maybe needed some times to heal some broken parts in spiritual world (not as everyday food, as it is not food, it purpose is not as a food for us ).. and thats all simple as that
simple basic
if anyone is protector of alcohol and cigarettes, them also can not be good
if anyone is against psychedelics evil way then them can not be good,
if anyone is against racism them also most jellylike can not be to good as they not know the reason and ways how we are made - racism is LOVE of races., not destroying them by mixing
also clean food, against white sugar, fresh fruits, vegetarianism is good but some meats maybe needed some times to heal some broken parts in spiritual world (not as everyday food, as it is not food, it purpose is not as a food for us ).. and thats all simple as that
simple basic
13 March 2016 21:44
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
about so simple things.. Mi5 torture... some crooked cups.. pah..
REALY=?? There is various species here among humans who look like humans and who use human body's.. and who invent new species and eliminate old ones.. FULL access to our dreams, thoughts and every talk in every corner by different nano and radio and spiritual technology, @ease processing all words and emotion colors and relations... cutting humans to parts by thousands per day for projects taken from asia etc where no one counts anyway.. as millions get every year missing
and we worry about some white people small problems here "oo someone is listening my phone and limiting fb posts and there is ONE of few places where they at times torture FEW people.. " SERIOUSLLY?
This is massive, and have ben all the time
for reasons, to eliminate original species...
old times when we sinked the atlantis, as these robot minded started to mess around with blakc magic to much,,, they i think integrated to norway and france from there.. and have been keeping knife in most of the rules minds..
warious relgious and spiritual and country people have bee nable to be more free and have access to REAL free worlds.. but generally.. this is a prison what we have to free from inside... as the creat forces outside.. if they do it fro mthere.. .then WE are sent against them... against the good ones... and they have been programming most simple people for that and middle upper class
REALY=?? There is various species here among humans who look like humans and who use human body's.. and who invent new species and eliminate old ones.. FULL access to our dreams, thoughts and every talk in every corner by different nano and radio and spiritual technology, @ease processing all words and emotion colors and relations... cutting humans to parts by thousands per day for projects taken from asia etc where no one counts anyway.. as millions get every year missing
and we worry about some white people small problems here "oo someone is listening my phone and limiting fb posts and there is ONE of few places where they at times torture FEW people.. " SERIOUSLLY?
This is massive, and have ben all the time
for reasons, to eliminate original species...
old times when we sinked the atlantis, as these robot minded started to mess around with blakc magic to much,,, they i think integrated to norway and france from there.. and have been keeping knife in most of the rules minds..
warious relgious and spiritual and country people have bee nable to be more free and have access to REAL free worlds.. but generally.. this is a prison what we have to free from inside... as the creat forces outside.. if they do it fro mthere.. .then WE are sent against them... against the good ones... and they have been programming most simple people for that and middle upper class
13 March 2016 21:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
lets see ya keep reccomending everyone doing as open source as they can but same time not keeping so open source for all the talks You have had.. in a informative proovable accessable way.. will be in contact perhaps soon and will see if these chnages are done acordingly or not
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_M._Greer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_M._Greer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_M._Greer
13 March 2016 20:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
among some guys who he says he has preeafed and who give answers to him is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._James_Woolsey,_Jr.
well
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._James_Woolsey,_Jr.
well
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._James_Woolsey,_Jr
13 March 2016 20:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
migi lendavad valgus täpikesed ja natside sõimamine jms
13 March 2016 20:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi 50% videost on meelega madala vibratsiooniga info eemale suunamiseks neid keda pole vaja ja noh..
13 March 2016 20:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
the video of Dr. Steve also 1h.46m.30s+ point also, important, as this is also what they do. they tell their own things for a reason so anyone who jumps on them with "this was man made" can be laughed at loud "really? this is so basic it is in yt.. did u know that? of-course these simple things are man made... man over 50 years.. "
13 March 2016 20:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
info, et kohtumised slelistel teemadel inimestega
... this is basically faggot aliens that want to break down the last bits of current systems here that they have not been able to poison properly jet
... this is basically faggot aliens that want to break down the last bits of current systems here that they have not been able to poison properly jet
13 March 2016 19:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ehk keegi viitsiks mõelda ka MIKS sellised infod on avalikuks pantud ?
13 March 2016 19:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
sorry about the gay vibe of the guy, it was needed to probe one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzwCNXgG1cw
maybe it is a french thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzwCNXgG1cw
maybe it is a french thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzwCNXgG1cw
13 March 2016 19:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid sellise info saamiseks, teiseliigi esindajale andmiseks.. peab juba pikaajalisem usaldus teenitud olema
13 March 2016 10:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja kui keegi paremust küsib, siis selles osas pole muud teha kui vaadata vanema kultuuri esindajaid ja nende lapsi ja kelle seas neist on kõige rohkem austust nende oma vahelisel suhtlusel ja kõige rohkem erinevaid füüsilisi mehaanilisi oskusi kätega kasulike asju valmis teha, veel ka ilusalt, ja naist hoia, need on kõrgema liigi varjandid... ja nagu näed kõrgemaid liike on eri rahvaste seas peaaegu igal pool üle ilma,
pole nigeeriassse jõudnud veel, aga ei imestaks ku ika selle ligidalt leiaks, sest tean faktiliselt, kuninglike liike sellel mandril on, oma silaga näinud ja lähedalt tundma õppinud, kes väga sügavad ja ise nad ka väljendanud, viisakalt ja muuseas vihjates,et nad ei ole samas liigist kui need keda sa me ümber näed, et sisi "ära ole paha rassist ja arva, et me kõikide muude samade värvidega samast liigist oleme, HOOPIS midagi muud nad..."
pole nigeeriassse jõudnud veel, aga ei imestaks ku ika selle ligidalt leiaks, sest tean faktiliselt, kuninglike liike sellel mandril on, oma silaga näinud ja lähedalt tundma õppinud, kes väga sügavad ja ise nad ka väljendanud, viisakalt ja muuseas vihjates,et nad ei ole samas liigist kui need keda sa me ümber näed, et sisi "ära ole paha rassist ja arva, et me kõikide muude samade värvidega samast liigist oleme, HOOPIS midagi muud nad..."
13 March 2016 10:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eestlased neljast eri liigist viimase avaliku info puhul, pidi koosnema, suuremat 4 gruppi siis. KEs oma vahel ei ole sama liik rohkem nagu kirss ei ole õunapuu ega ploom, kuigi aruka pookimisega võimalik isegi neid omavahel kasvama panna... kuid nad erinevate viljadega... kuigi teatud robot programile tundub kõik sama sest no on ju üks vars mis juurtega maas, ja siis mingid viljad .. nu ja samal põhimõttel tundub toimivat...
nu mudugi osad inimeste moodi liigid siin inimeste keskel on hoopis muudmoodi toimivad ja nende verd ka ei saa testida, kuid see selleks, keskendume inimese vere põhistele liikidele praegu
nu mudugi osad inimeste moodi liigid siin inimeste keskel on hoopis muudmoodi toimivad ja nende verd ka ei saa testida, kuid see selleks, keskendume inimese vere põhistele liikidele praegu
13 March 2016 10:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja usklikud inimesed peaks eriti aru saama.. rasside osas, et kui nad ise tevad, eri ingliliiigid siin eri inimrasse, eri inimliike tegid ja teevad ja aretanud... et siis kudias need samas vaimus samamoodi saavad olla kui need mis algse liini jaoks kindlaks suunaks loodi mis püsima jäävad, ja ülejäänud liigid enda järgi ritta panevad?
13 March 2016 10:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mina olen küll rassist ja ma arvan, et need kes pole tuleks ravida või õpetada,
kui ikkagi tuleb välja, et on erinevad inimliigid olemas, nagu targemad inimesed suht veendunult räägivad.
Näiteks Eestlased on tuhadeid aastaid saksa kultuurist ja arengust ees nii vaimses kui mitmes muus mõttes, kuid on midagi muud mis neid meile kasulikuks teeb
kui leks kasutu rahvaga, vigase liigiga, siis poleks neist ka kasu ju
kui ikkagi tuleb välja, et on erinevad inimliigid olemas, nagu targemad inimesed suht veendunult räägivad.
Näiteks Eestlased on tuhadeid aastaid saksa kultuurist ja arengust ees nii vaimses kui mitmes muus mõttes, kuid on midagi muud mis neid meile kasulikuks teeb
kui leks kasutu rahvaga, vigase liigiga, siis poleks neist ka kasu ju
13 March 2016 10:18
Margus Meigo commented on Javier Gold Ferrari's post.
Group: MicroState Nation New world Goverment(IGO) NNWG king Europe Javier I
We see13 March 2016 01:54
Margus Meigo commented on Chuck D's photo.
Difference is that Hitler is Great
and with positive honest wish
and with positive honest wish
12 March 2016 22:16
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Brother be for guidance then for the less fortunate ones who want to be right way right
12 March 2016 20:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid jah, üks lühedamaid, tõeseid, iroonilisi, karme, ja kurbe ütlusi, samal ajal
12 March 2016 19:51
Margus Meigo commented on Coppercab's photo.
it is really basic.. am great for what am i but it is so confusing to see why some people feel problem about their color after they find out... who they are.. and yes, there is also great deal of heart and fire that comes with the blood and feelings of righteousness.
and the bad ones these day are searching hard for every public average human, who is red... to try to use them for their agenda..
and the bad ones these day are searching hard for every public average human, who is red... to try to use them for their agenda..
12 March 2016 12:25
Margus Meigo commented on Coppercab's photo.
Just for who did not know jet, Gingers are proper king blood, root dna, wizard power from old times,
this is why they was hunted down old times and in these day they try to kill rest of it by activating hate virus trough devil children in school, they just need one devil to give new idea about something new children see and most will fallow as long the kid is not educated about ones proper strong roots and privilege of few, to be redhead and beard
this is why they was hunted down old times and in these day they try to kill rest of it by activating hate virus trough devil children in school, they just need one devil to give new idea about something new children see and most will fallow as long the kid is not educated about ones proper strong roots and privilege of few, to be redhead and beard
12 March 2016 12:23
Margus Meigo commented on Coppercab's link.
Ok, found it, properg genius lines some of it
12 March 2016 12:20
Margus Meigo commented on Krepšinio klubas's video.
Allar Kaljundi
12 March 2016 11:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
does he even know, red heads is special rare Royal magic race _?
12 March 2016 11:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
well, need to take note on these kind of things for sure as well, as why would he say words like that and sentences, if he really would feel for it for real, .. some things feel right as they are told in truth but even if character does say it knowingly "as for silly ones who think so. . to relate" .. but sounds true as it is some things in a way ... high game it seems, really high if to consider full length of the manipulation depth that is testes before similar characters in mainstream
12 March 2016 11:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Wonder where part 2 is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1SYlLbUbPQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1SYlLbUbPQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1SYlLbUbPQ
12 March 2016 10:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
emphasis on the 0ver, again, part
11 March 2016 23:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and now we gotta do what we gotta do...
and if people keep asking and demanding what they not know, then once that what is demanded will be given.. and that will be Apple 2.0 all ower again
and if people keep asking and demanding what they not know, then once that what is demanded will be given.. and that will be Apple 2.0 all ower again
11 March 2016 23:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey, that was a bit stupid thing to sing now to think about it,
all the strategic biological virus and nanobio war tech,
extremely potent dark hypnosis and psychological knowledge, ill minded spiritual technology and oh.. will not even mention the worst things
And to be honest, am not even at a bit care about " space tech " that is here as Ours... what is that metallic toys compared to what we can do with plants and mind in right configuration ?
But yeah, off the grid electricity and human right related communication networks would be nice for starters .. if planet is so boor, that can not sustain free internet connection and at same time pay high salaries for hard working professionals in IT sector.. then this is really really .. . "the collective low vibration hostage human mind planet"....what a embryo still
all the strategic biological virus and nanobio war tech,
extremely potent dark hypnosis and psychological knowledge, ill minded spiritual technology and oh.. will not even mention the worst things
And to be honest, am not even at a bit care about " space tech " that is here as Ours... what is that metallic toys compared to what we can do with plants and mind in right configuration ?
But yeah, off the grid electricity and human right related communication networks would be nice for starters .. if planet is so boor, that can not sustain free internet connection and at same time pay high salaries for hard working professionals in IT sector.. then this is really really .. . "the collective low vibration hostage human mind planet"....what a embryo still
11 March 2016 23:36
Margus Meigo commented on Ülo Meigo's post.
muidugi mitte Ees-t-Last-est
11 March 2016 23:25
Margus Meigo commented on Ülo Meigo's post.
Kuigi, usa jõuab alati ette
11 March 2016 23:25
Margus Meigo replied to Rain Haugas's comment.
Kuid peame meeles pidama .. et kui kaua pimedust taga ajada siis hakkab pimedus sind ka taga ajama.. või et kui pimedusse vaadata siis pimedus hakkab sinusse...
et sellega jah sutsu on nagu on, nijedze vist
et sellega jah sutsu on nagu on, nijedze vist
11 March 2016 23:22
Margus Meigo replied to Rain Haugas's comment.
Eks sellega me tegeleme, selleks me siin oleme
11 March 2016 23:19
Margus Meigo replied to Rain Haugas's comment.
muidiugi, võiks ka vabandada... kuid me siin ikkagi räägime ju Rooma-Greeka nö kultuurist
11 March 2016 23:17
Margus Meigo replied to Rain Haugas's comment.
nii see elus tihti on
11 March 2016 23:16
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Kõige suurem lõpp on see, et praegust asja siin meie ümber seostataksegi nagu selle kultuuriga mis hävineb mitte see terve mõistus mis juba ammu läinud suurel osal
11 March 2016 14:32
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
esimene või viimane ?
11 March 2016 14:31
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
julged
11 March 2016 14:27
Margus Meigo replied to Jaanus Aivar's comment.
kui sellised mõtted on siis peab kindlasti tegema ravi
11 March 2016 14:26
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Mina olen täiesti rinnahoidjate vastu, ebasobilikud enamasti, ebamugavad nii naisele kui mehele ning lisaks pidid need rinnad mitut pidi ära rikkuma.
Muidugi kui neid ka ei oleks siis oleks vast kõik puhta rindadega... või mine tea mis siis oleks, ehk siis kantaks ikka pikka särki
Muidugi kui neid ka ei oleks siis oleks vast kõik puhta rindadega... või mine tea mis siis oleks, ehk siis kantaks ikka pikka särki
11 March 2016 14:25
Margus Meigo commented on Roberto Fox's post.
Its one great picture man!
11 March 2016 14:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Elementaarne, moslemgi teab
11 March 2016 11:04
Margus Meigo replied to Ines Pärna's comment.
Group: Kristlased
huvitav11 March 2016 10:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
11 March 2016 10:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So all that was just Under ONE comment as reply...
11 March 2016 05:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ॐPromethean Ash-Shakur; Pratyekabuddhic tetragrammaton of Metatronic Ascension (-_-*)2 hours ago
+shinigami19xx My compeer, 'i' shall keep it terse; if u or any ultracrepidarian visit'd Tibet, ye would indeed see the hundreds of monasteries, temples, & other cultural buildings which were destroy'd along w/ statues of the venerable Tathagata ... moreover, thousands upon thousands of innocent beings lost their lives due to the maliciousness of China's ominously nefarious gov't....
ॐAmitabha
+shinigami19xx My compeer, 'i' shall keep it terse; if u or any ultracrepidarian visit'd Tibet, ye would indeed see the hundreds of monasteries, temples, & other cultural buildings which were destroy'd along w/ statues of the venerable Tathagata ... moreover, thousands upon thousands of innocent beings lost their lives due to the maliciousness of China's ominously nefarious gov't....
ॐAmitabha
11 March 2016 05:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Simon Bartlett3 hours ago
+shinigami19xx FREE TIBET !!!
You are paid to spread misinformation
Try helping your countrymen instead of keeping them enslaved
shinigami19xx
shinigami19xx3 hours ago
+Simon Bartlett I'm confused.
Can you explain the situation in Tibet to me?
What is actually happening in Tibet?
Simon Bartlett
Simon Bartlett3 hours ago
+shinigami19xx
China invaded a free country. Imposed its will on the people. Is wiping out its Culture. Its religious leader had to flee to india. Its language is facing extinction. Over 500,000 tibetans have been killed by the chinese. The lands are being overtaken by han migrants .
Thousands of monasteries have been destroyed.
Protesters are killed or imprisoned.
Its essentially a genocide.
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Zhiheng Li
Zhiheng Li2 hours ago
+Simon Bartlett Where do you get 500,000 figure from? From CNN? You really think second world war start again? And now, tell me when did China invaded Tibet? And how do you know the what is the Will of Tibetans? By CNN again? Or by stupid Youtube videos like this one?
+shinigami19xx FREE TIBET !!!
You are paid to spread misinformation
Try helping your countrymen instead of keeping them enslaved
shinigami19xx
shinigami19xx3 hours ago
+Simon Bartlett I'm confused.
Can you explain the situation in Tibet to me?
What is actually happening in Tibet?
Simon Bartlett
Simon Bartlett3 hours ago
+shinigami19xx
China invaded a free country. Imposed its will on the people. Is wiping out its Culture. Its religious leader had to flee to india. Its language is facing extinction. Over 500,000 tibetans have been killed by the chinese. The lands are being overtaken by han migrants .
Thousands of monasteries have been destroyed.
Protesters are killed or imprisoned.
Its essentially a genocide.
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Zhiheng Li
Zhiheng Li2 hours ago
+Simon Bartlett Where do you get 500,000 figure from? From CNN? You really think second world war start again? And now, tell me when did China invaded Tibet? And how do you know the what is the Will of Tibetans? By CNN again? Or by stupid Youtube videos like this one?
11 March 2016 05:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
shinigami19xx1 week ago
+SMY PMC
Good summary.
David Ndara
David Ndara1 week ago
Maybe she should use her Qi to fly to China
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ॐPromethean Ash-Shakur; Pratyekabuddhic tetragrammaton of Metatronic Ascension (-_-*)
ॐPromethean Ash-Shakur; Pratyekabuddhic tetragrammaton of Metatronic Ascension (-_-*)1 day ago
+shinigami19xx Perhaps religion may be dangerous, & this has been proven in the past; albeit many religious ppl are humble & rather peaceful. Nevertheless, governments are also dangerous, & this too has been proven in the past, & present. Fuck all governments & frivolous political systems; for their avariciousness sickens me. "Fuck China's government & what they've done to Tibet...!" ॐAmitabha
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shinigami19xx
shinigami19xx19 hours ago
+ॐPromethean Ash-Shakur; Pratyekabuddhic tetragrammaton of Metatronic Ascension (-_-*) what did China do to Tibet?
Just out of curiosity, can you explain the situation to me?
周孟博
周孟博4 hours ago
+john smith where did you know that we did not know the massacre of Tienanmen?
+SMY PMC
Good summary.
David Ndara
David Ndara1 week ago
Maybe she should use her Qi to fly to China
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ॐPromethean Ash-Shakur; Pratyekabuddhic tetragrammaton of Metatronic Ascension (-_-*)
ॐPromethean Ash-Shakur; Pratyekabuddhic tetragrammaton of Metatronic Ascension (-_-*)1 day ago
+shinigami19xx Perhaps religion may be dangerous, & this has been proven in the past; albeit many religious ppl are humble & rather peaceful. Nevertheless, governments are also dangerous, & this too has been proven in the past, & present. Fuck all governments & frivolous political systems; for their avariciousness sickens me. "Fuck China's government & what they've done to Tibet...!" ॐAmitabha
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shinigami19xx
shinigami19xx19 hours ago
+ॐPromethean Ash-Shakur; Pratyekabuddhic tetragrammaton of Metatronic Ascension (-_-*) what did China do to Tibet?
Just out of curiosity, can you explain the situation to me?
周孟博
周孟博4 hours ago
+john smith where did you know that we did not know the massacre of Tienanmen?
11 March 2016 05:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
SMY PMC1 week ago
+john smith Reading all your comments, it is very safe to say that according to you, China is everything bad, US is everything good, regardless of the context.
Beijing has high house prices, which shows the capitalistic free market is at work, and you complain it's not communist/socialist enough for you, China bad. US has the same disproportion in house prices, but it doesn't matter to you. Check San Francisco house prices, you think average workers can afford $3000/month rent for 2 bedroom apartments?
You talk like Chinese government purposely made it hard for its people with all their failures. "Today, let's make plan to screw with our people". Ghost cities, corruption, etc... are by products of current Chinese society. You talk like you have a solution for everything, like China is one person who can simply decide how much corruption he will have, and where. And how on earth do you measure corruption? By kilogram? Ounces? Miles? How do you know US has far less corruption? Also, US has never peaked even 500million in population, so there is no evidence US government is even capable of managing 1.4 billion people.
And Falungong does not represent ALL RELIGION in China. Sorry to say, but that is what Fox and CNN would like you to believe. On the contrary, many mainstream religions condemn Falungong to be a cult and with political agenda. Which means, Falungong (not even saying they are bad or good) is a political organization masked as a peaceful religious group. And what despicable of them is to send their members to death for their own political gain. Although no suicide bomber as terrorists, they encourage their members to burn themselves to further their own agenda.
But of course, to you, anything about China is BAD BAD BAD, anything anti China is GOOD GOOD GOOD. I wonder, instead of putting criminal in jail, how about deporting them to US? Imagine some good 300,000 Chinese criminals: serial killers, rapists, drug traffickers living in your neighborhood. According to you, anyone anti-China is good, right? Oh right, your children will join Falungong and encouraged to burn themselves, you should get your video camera ready to record the glorious moment. Wow, your ancestors must be proud.
+john smith Reading all your comments, it is very safe to say that according to you, China is everything bad, US is everything good, regardless of the context.
Beijing has high house prices, which shows the capitalistic free market is at work, and you complain it's not communist/socialist enough for you, China bad. US has the same disproportion in house prices, but it doesn't matter to you. Check San Francisco house prices, you think average workers can afford $3000/month rent for 2 bedroom apartments?
You talk like Chinese government purposely made it hard for its people with all their failures. "Today, let's make plan to screw with our people". Ghost cities, corruption, etc... are by products of current Chinese society. You talk like you have a solution for everything, like China is one person who can simply decide how much corruption he will have, and where. And how on earth do you measure corruption? By kilogram? Ounces? Miles? How do you know US has far less corruption? Also, US has never peaked even 500million in population, so there is no evidence US government is even capable of managing 1.4 billion people.
And Falungong does not represent ALL RELIGION in China. Sorry to say, but that is what Fox and CNN would like you to believe. On the contrary, many mainstream religions condemn Falungong to be a cult and with political agenda. Which means, Falungong (not even saying they are bad or good) is a political organization masked as a peaceful religious group. And what despicable of them is to send their members to death for their own political gain. Although no suicide bomber as terrorists, they encourage their members to burn themselves to further their own agenda.
But of course, to you, anything about China is BAD BAD BAD, anything anti China is GOOD GOOD GOOD. I wonder, instead of putting criminal in jail, how about deporting them to US? Imagine some good 300,000 Chinese criminals: serial killers, rapists, drug traffickers living in your neighborhood. According to you, anyone anti-China is good, right? Oh right, your children will join Falungong and encouraged to burn themselves, you should get your video camera ready to record the glorious moment. Wow, your ancestors must be proud.
11 March 2016 05:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
shinigami19xx2 weeks ago
+birdman33369 There's 3500 basic characters in modern Chinese. But if you want a complete list of characters it would be over 100,000.
Mahjong and Chinese Chess are popular in China, as are card games.
Scrabble not so much, only among those with a high level of English.
Go is also starting to become more popular although not as popular as it is in Japan and Korea.
Lammy Vong
Lammy Vong2 weeks ago
Sure...you can't blame a Chinese government to denies her of her right, even after...hm...oh wait, threaten her and her father plus the people in the organizers. Maybe you should visit China and find out for your self.
shinigami19xx
shinigami19xx2 weeks ago
+Lammy Vong I guess she would have the right in America to be part of a brainwashed cult. Westborough baptist church and the KKK aren't illegal..
Wayne
Wayne1 week ago
+shinigami19xx +1
+birdman33369 There's 3500 basic characters in modern Chinese. But if you want a complete list of characters it would be over 100,000.
Mahjong and Chinese Chess are popular in China, as are card games.
Scrabble not so much, only among those with a high level of English.
Go is also starting to become more popular although not as popular as it is in Japan and Korea.
Lammy Vong
Lammy Vong2 weeks ago
Sure...you can't blame a Chinese government to denies her of her right, even after...hm...oh wait, threaten her and her father plus the people in the organizers. Maybe you should visit China and find out for your self.
shinigami19xx
shinigami19xx2 weeks ago
+Lammy Vong I guess she would have the right in America to be part of a brainwashed cult. Westborough baptist church and the KKK aren't illegal..
Wayne
Wayne1 week ago
+shinigami19xx +1
11 March 2016 05:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Roger Wsy3 weeks ago
+Ramen Oomori"slap and then went fully recovered" is a scam just like in the US many faith healers use such scams (using their own plants) to scam gullible of their money. If such things really work, there won't be a need for doctors and medicines.
AzureDrag0n1
AzureDrag0n13 weeks ago
+shinigami19xx That NDAA indefinite detention is only the case if it is interpreted that way because in all cases where it could have been applied it was handled by civil authorities as normal. Meaning you got a lawyer and stood trial as normal even if you tried to blow up people. I am not sure in cases of non citizens but I believe they still got some sort of legal representation but could indeed be held indefinitely.
shinigami19xx
shinigami19xx2 weeks ago
+AzureDrag0n1 You should read up on David Hicks.
birdman33369
birdman333692 weeks ago
+shinigami19xx I like using Qi in Scrabble. You can really rack up points if you land it on a tipple. Does china have scrabble? or would the alphabet be to big?
+Ramen Oomori"slap and then went fully recovered" is a scam just like in the US many faith healers use such scams (using their own plants) to scam gullible of their money. If such things really work, there won't be a need for doctors and medicines.
AzureDrag0n1
AzureDrag0n13 weeks ago
+shinigami19xx That NDAA indefinite detention is only the case if it is interpreted that way because in all cases where it could have been applied it was handled by civil authorities as normal. Meaning you got a lawyer and stood trial as normal even if you tried to blow up people. I am not sure in cases of non citizens but I believe they still got some sort of legal representation but could indeed be held indefinitely.
shinigami19xx
shinigami19xx2 weeks ago
+AzureDrag0n1 You should read up on David Hicks.
birdman33369
birdman333692 weeks ago
+shinigami19xx I like using Qi in Scrabble. You can really rack up points if you land it on a tipple. Does china have scrabble? or would the alphabet be to big?
11 March 2016 05:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
shinigami19xx3 weeks ago
+AzureDrag0n1 Hi Azure. I honestly wasn't trying to criticize the US, I was just pointing out some inconvenient truths about the US to get someone of his high horse.
I am by no means an expert on American law. And I know that indefinite detention is a bit of a convoluted subject in the US (I believe it's intentionally convoluted and vague).
But it's my understanding that the patriot act allows suspected terrorists to be detained indefinitely under section 412 of the patriot act. Agreeably, this only applied to migrants but as a non US citizen this is of concern for me. If I wrote something silly or offensive to the US on my facebook account for example, then I decided to go on a holiday to Disneyland. There is a very real possibility that the US government could take offense to one of my comments or even perceive it as a threat and place me in detention.
But aside from section 412 of the patriot act, there is also the Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) which does allow indefinite detention of US Citizens if they are suspected of being involved in terrorism.
Ramen Oomori
Ramen Oomori3 weeks ago
+Federico Olivares I dunno about other countries but in China falungong is def a cult. They stop sick believers from going to hospitals or taking medicines. I've seen some footage of falungong, it showed one believer who can barely walk went to LiHongzhi (leader of falungong), and Li slapped him hard in the back, then the believer went fully recovered. Now tell me this is not a cult. In my guess they went "peaceful" just because they want to survive in western countries.
+AzureDrag0n1 Hi Azure. I honestly wasn't trying to criticize the US, I was just pointing out some inconvenient truths about the US to get someone of his high horse.
I am by no means an expert on American law. And I know that indefinite detention is a bit of a convoluted subject in the US (I believe it's intentionally convoluted and vague).
But it's my understanding that the patriot act allows suspected terrorists to be detained indefinitely under section 412 of the patriot act. Agreeably, this only applied to migrants but as a non US citizen this is of concern for me. If I wrote something silly or offensive to the US on my facebook account for example, then I decided to go on a holiday to Disneyland. There is a very real possibility that the US government could take offense to one of my comments or even perceive it as a threat and place me in detention.
But aside from section 412 of the patriot act, there is also the Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) which does allow indefinite detention of US Citizens if they are suspected of being involved in terrorism.
Ramen Oomori
Ramen Oomori3 weeks ago
+Federico Olivares I dunno about other countries but in China falungong is def a cult. They stop sick believers from going to hospitals or taking medicines. I've seen some footage of falungong, it showed one believer who can barely walk went to LiHongzhi (leader of falungong), and Li slapped him hard in the back, then the believer went fully recovered. Now tell me this is not a cult. In my guess they went "peaceful" just because they want to survive in western countries.
11 March 2016 05:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tmp0213 weeks ago
+shinigami19xx Finally, I was beginning to think no one really knows the true nature of Fa Lun Gong. My whole family have been buddhists for generations. A lot of the practices in Fa Lun Gong are NOT the teaching of Buddha. For one, telling people to go on a protest and injuring themselves are completely wrong. Fa Lun Gong is a cultist group and that's why China's government bans it. They did NOT ban buddhism... Shao Lin is huge on practicing Buddhism and no one gives them any trouble. Buddhism is a real religion, Fa Lun Gong is just a organization created with certain purpose using the name of Buddism.
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AzureDrag0n1
AzureDrag0n13 weeks ago
+shinigami19xx I think you exaggerate some of this stuff while the rest is true. For example homeless people do not really die from starvation here but they do die from exposure. It is not hard to get free food here if you really need it. Homeless people do not ask for food here. They ask for money because money is much harder to come by but getting food is pretty easy. Also you can not be held indefinitely without a lawyer but you can be held indefinitely which is a recent law that was passed called the NDAA if you are not an American citizen.
+shinigami19xx Finally, I was beginning to think no one really knows the true nature of Fa Lun Gong. My whole family have been buddhists for generations. A lot of the practices in Fa Lun Gong are NOT the teaching of Buddha. For one, telling people to go on a protest and injuring themselves are completely wrong. Fa Lun Gong is a cultist group and that's why China's government bans it. They did NOT ban buddhism... Shao Lin is huge on practicing Buddhism and no one gives them any trouble. Buddhism is a real religion, Fa Lun Gong is just a organization created with certain purpose using the name of Buddism.
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AzureDrag0n1
AzureDrag0n13 weeks ago
+shinigami19xx I think you exaggerate some of this stuff while the rest is true. For example homeless people do not really die from starvation here but they do die from exposure. It is not hard to get free food here if you really need it. Homeless people do not ask for food here. They ask for money because money is much harder to come by but getting food is pretty easy. Also you can not be held indefinitely without a lawyer but you can be held indefinitely which is a recent law that was passed called the NDAA if you are not an American citizen.
11 March 2016 04:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hackerevenge11 month ago
+john smith I hope u had a look in ur own backyard mate. the biggest terrorist is American and NATO. Killing, torturing thousands of Muslims and leaving millions of them homeless. Destabilizing the middle east and funding terror. You have access to the free internet so use it instead of making yourself look like another paid troll.
xyndey
xyndey1 month ago
snowden is a fucken traitor.
Federico Olivares
Federico Olivares1 month ago
+xyndey do you understand that he exposed the corruption and bad deals of the cia and the us gov't...treason is giving delicate information to the enemy... he gave the info to the american public.. never reveled like dangerous state secrets and sold that to the russians... if he releasing info to the americans, (among this information is the IRS targeting conservative groups) then by definition the american public is the enemy of the american government ...
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Skodaman2
Skodaman23 weeks ago
+xyndey He's a hero.
Utopian 989
Utopian 9893 weeks ago
How the fuck are you allowed on YouTube $0.50er
+john smith I hope u had a look in ur own backyard mate. the biggest terrorist is American and NATO. Killing, torturing thousands of Muslims and leaving millions of them homeless. Destabilizing the middle east and funding terror. You have access to the free internet so use it instead of making yourself look like another paid troll.
xyndey
xyndey1 month ago
snowden is a fucken traitor.
Federico Olivares
Federico Olivares1 month ago
+xyndey do you understand that he exposed the corruption and bad deals of the cia and the us gov't...treason is giving delicate information to the enemy... he gave the info to the american public.. never reveled like dangerous state secrets and sold that to the russians... if he releasing info to the americans, (among this information is the IRS targeting conservative groups) then by definition the american public is the enemy of the american government ...
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Skodaman2
Skodaman23 weeks ago
+xyndey He's a hero.
Utopian 989
Utopian 9893 weeks ago
How the fuck are you allowed on YouTube $0.50er
11 March 2016 04:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Bad News1 month ago
+shinigami19xx Do you work for the Chinese government, or is this part of your prison sentence?
shinigami19xx
shinigami19xx1 month ago
+Bad News
I live in the real world, not the world of propaganda and sensationalist media.
shinigami19xx
shinigami19xx1 month ago
+Federico Olivares Banning things and committing genocide are 2 completely different things. We aren't talking about killing people, we are talking about stopping people from creating dangerous cults and practicing crazy and dangerous made up religions where they brainwash people, cause civil unrest and encourage people to commit suicide in protest of things.
Groups like Westborough Baptist church and the KKK would also be banned if they tried to establish themselves in China.
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Vrijman
Vrijman1 month ago
+shinigami19xx Your arguments seem legit. I didn't know about this falun gong thing before.
Federico Olivares
Federico Olivares1 month ago
+shinigami19xx ok, i question, why do falun gong is so bad in china and in the rest of the world is so peaceful? the kkk is bad everywhere, sl is the westboro chuch......
+shinigami19xx Do you work for the Chinese government, or is this part of your prison sentence?
shinigami19xx
shinigami19xx1 month ago
+Bad News
I live in the real world, not the world of propaganda and sensationalist media.
shinigami19xx
shinigami19xx1 month ago
+Federico Olivares Banning things and committing genocide are 2 completely different things. We aren't talking about killing people, we are talking about stopping people from creating dangerous cults and practicing crazy and dangerous made up religions where they brainwash people, cause civil unrest and encourage people to commit suicide in protest of things.
Groups like Westborough Baptist church and the KKK would also be banned if they tried to establish themselves in China.
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Vrijman
Vrijman1 month ago
+shinigami19xx Your arguments seem legit. I didn't know about this falun gong thing before.
Federico Olivares
Federico Olivares1 month ago
+shinigami19xx ok, i question, why do falun gong is so bad in china and in the rest of the world is so peaceful? the kkk is bad everywhere, sl is the westboro chuch......
11 March 2016 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
+Federico Olivares A religion where you brainwash gullible people into giving you their money, harassing anyone who speaks out against your religion and setting themselves on fire to protest something..
If that's freedom of religion, then fuck that for a joke.
Federico Olivares
Federico Olivares1 month ago
+shinigami19xx man, baning things and commiting religious genocide is.not the solution, rather you can teach the people so they can avoid the cult just like people make all kinds of books and statements against scientology and many other cults.... plus, i havent heared a lot about bad things about falun gong from people except from china supporters
White Colour
White Colour1 month ago
There are Falunggong followers all over world and cause no trouble. Why China. The fact is CCP is afraid of any large group. They feel threatened. What a unsecured jerk.
eriepeking
eriepeking1 month ago
+john smith if you can read. she was not talking about the massacre that happened in Mao s time. do some research about the actual falungong event she s on about before you open your mouth. I m tired of you guys blabbing after reading a book or did a course of east Asia. you know nothing about it! and let me guess, you think I m brain washed and that's why I m commenting like this. You don't know a thing about China.
If that's freedom of religion, then fuck that for a joke.
Federico Olivares
Federico Olivares1 month ago
+shinigami19xx man, baning things and commiting religious genocide is.not the solution, rather you can teach the people so they can avoid the cult just like people make all kinds of books and statements against scientology and many other cults.... plus, i havent heared a lot about bad things about falun gong from people except from china supporters
White Colour
White Colour1 month ago
There are Falunggong followers all over world and cause no trouble. Why China. The fact is CCP is afraid of any large group. They feel threatened. What a unsecured jerk.
eriepeking
eriepeking1 month ago
+john smith if you can read. she was not talking about the massacre that happened in Mao s time. do some research about the actual falungong event she s on about before you open your mouth. I m tired of you guys blabbing after reading a book or did a course of east Asia. you know nothing about it! and let me guess, you think I m brain washed and that's why I m commenting like this. You don't know a thing about China.
11 March 2016 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Roger Wsy1 month ago
+shinigami19xx 93 million unemployed and 50 million people living in poverty in US.
120 million Chinese travel out of China for tours last year while vast majority of Americans do not have passports. John is trying to make himself feel good when US is really decaying at its core.
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Federico Olivares
Federico Olivares1 month ago
well, thats called freedom of religion dipshit, like scientology and many other bullcrap, as long as you dont set a un willing civilian in fire is fine....
Roger Wsy
Roger Wsy1 month ago
+Federico Olivares US media won't publish that the state government supply toxic water to Americans for 2 years. The toxicity level is 20 times more poisonous than toxic wastes.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/11/health/toxic-tap-water-flint-michigan/ This is the freedom Americans have - all smoke and mirrors.
shinigami19xx
shinigami19xx1 month ago
+Roger Wsy I agree, I think John should focus more on the problems in his own country rather than try to criticize a country that is continuing to grow and improve daily. I think he's just critisizing China because he knows they will are just about to take top spot.
+shinigami19xx 93 million unemployed and 50 million people living in poverty in US.
120 million Chinese travel out of China for tours last year while vast majority of Americans do not have passports. John is trying to make himself feel good when US is really decaying at its core.
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Federico Olivares
Federico Olivares1 month ago
well, thats called freedom of religion dipshit, like scientology and many other bullcrap, as long as you dont set a un willing civilian in fire is fine....
Roger Wsy
Roger Wsy1 month ago
+Federico Olivares US media won't publish that the state government supply toxic water to Americans for 2 years. The toxicity level is 20 times more poisonous than toxic wastes.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/11/health/toxic-tap-water-flint-michigan/ This is the freedom Americans have - all smoke and mirrors.
shinigami19xx
shinigami19xx1 month ago
+Roger Wsy I agree, I think John should focus more on the problems in his own country rather than try to criticize a country that is continuing to grow and improve daily. I think he's just critisizing China because he knows they will are just about to take top spot.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/11/health/toxic-tap-water-flint-michigan/
11 March 2016 04:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
shinigami19xx1 month ago
+john smith Aside from America, there is a whole world full of other countries trading with China.
Low income earners in many countries get paid much more than the middle class in America as well,, what's your point? middle class in China get paid less but then everything costs less so it balances out. America is full of homeless people living on the streets in cardboard boxes and starving to death. The medical system is a joke, unless you pay exorbitant amounts of medical insurance you can't afford treatment if you get sick. And you're screwed if you need an organ transplant.. Pity the falun gong stories about organ stealing have no basis in fact, otherwise you'd be able to buy an organ from China.
American streets are filled with crime and drugs.
There's constant mass shootings in schools, workplaces, shopping malls and in the street.
Racist police officers killing black people for being black.
A patriot act which completely shits all over your precious constitution and allows the Authorities to take you away, lock you up and hold you indefinitely without a lawyer or even charging you with anything. Your emails, phone calls and text messages are all being recorded, collected and stored to be used against you at any time in the future.
And BTW, your education system is a joke.
+john smith Aside from America, there is a whole world full of other countries trading with China.
Low income earners in many countries get paid much more than the middle class in America as well,, what's your point? middle class in China get paid less but then everything costs less so it balances out. America is full of homeless people living on the streets in cardboard boxes and starving to death. The medical system is a joke, unless you pay exorbitant amounts of medical insurance you can't afford treatment if you get sick. And you're screwed if you need an organ transplant.. Pity the falun gong stories about organ stealing have no basis in fact, otherwise you'd be able to buy an organ from China.
American streets are filled with crime and drugs.
There's constant mass shootings in schools, workplaces, shopping malls and in the street.
Racist police officers killing black people for being black.
A patriot act which completely shits all over your precious constitution and allows the Authorities to take you away, lock you up and hold you indefinitely without a lawyer or even charging you with anything. Your emails, phone calls and text messages are all being recorded, collected and stored to be used against you at any time in the future.
And BTW, your education system is a joke.
11 March 2016 04:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
john smith1 month ago
+Yesuna Kass
one shallow brain washed troll is friends with another shallow brainwashed troll. why am i not surprised. the worst off in the declining us have a better income than the middle class of china. the only reason china is what it is today is because of the us government and us companies doing deng xio ping the gratitude of selecting his communism ridden nearly failed state for economic investment. and lo and behold now that demand from the democratic west is slowing so is the Chinese economy.
+Yesuna Kass
one shallow brain washed troll is friends with another shallow brainwashed troll. why am i not surprised. the worst off in the declining us have a better income than the middle class of china. the only reason china is what it is today is because of the us government and us companies doing deng xio ping the gratitude of selecting his communism ridden nearly failed state for economic investment. and lo and behold now that demand from the democratic west is slowing so is the Chinese economy.
11 March 2016 04:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Yesuna Kass1 month ago
+john smith just shut the fuck up! you know nothing about falun gong and you keep defend this cult because they oppose CCP
john smith
john smith1 month ago
+Yesuna Kass and what do you know about them other than what your dictatorship has yelled at you through loudspeakers? stop acting like a brainwashed troll puppet for a few rich old men.
Yesuna Kass
Yesuna Kass1 month ago
+john smith LOL dictatorship you ass a at least CCP is giving a good result for the Chinese people after 70 years, everyone who's living in China needs to follow China's law and rules.
US is now in decline even my teen friends who love anime, k pop and not caring about politic said to me that U.S has so many crime, gun shooting cases, and the goverment is very strict like a dictator.
+john smith just shut the fuck up! you know nothing about falun gong and you keep defend this cult because they oppose CCP
john smith
john smith1 month ago
+Yesuna Kass and what do you know about them other than what your dictatorship has yelled at you through loudspeakers? stop acting like a brainwashed troll puppet for a few rich old men.
Yesuna Kass
Yesuna Kass1 month ago
+john smith LOL dictatorship you ass a at least CCP is giving a good result for the Chinese people after 70 years, everyone who's living in China needs to follow China's law and rules.
US is now in decline even my teen friends who love anime, k pop and not caring about politic said to me that U.S has so many crime, gun shooting cases, and the goverment is very strict like a dictator.
11 March 2016 04:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
john smith1 month ago
+shinigami19xx "they convince everyone that they're in a fight for freedom or equality or against corruption or whatever cause they choose".... and that is a problem? criticism should not stop when times are good. that's when most of the corruption happens because government officials are convinced people will be too content to care. when times go bad, the full effect of the unchecked corruption is felt. again, refer to the ghost cities of china.
if you are against organizing collecting money from contributions by its members and see it as "corrupt" then you should be an anarchist because the government does the same thing and unlike FG you can be punished for not paying.
1. no decision is fully good or fully bad. black and white thinking like that is naive. every decision has side effects which negatively impact some people more than others and such people have the right to criticize and demand compensatory measures. other citizens have the right to take up their cause as well. that's the whole reason democratic countries have a formal opposition.
"why dont they use snipers"... because then you turn a riot into a revolution. do you think you are the only one to come up with that idea? history has shown over and over when rioters/protesters die they become martyrs. the ccp has begun to understand this as well which is why it "didn't use snipers" against HK protesters. the only way to effectively stop protests is to prevent the conditions which create them in the first place. which requires political dialogue that cant happen in an environment of censorship.
2. helping youth in rural areas sounds like a great idea on paper and there were many responsible ways the government could have gone about implementing it had it communicated with their representatives and given them what they needed. instead in a typical dictatorial fashion it decided what's best without consultation and threw more and more money on solutions which were completely disconnected from reality.
3. see point 2
4."we must work for the good of the collective and not the individual"... that is just BS propaganda from the communist days to keep workers in line. the chinese leadership and economic elite accept capitalism(maximizing personal profit) and gain citizenship in foreign countries at the first opportunity. corruption in the top leadership is only a problem if it starts hurting the majority's pockets in which case they arrange an internal coup and then you have all these "anti corruption measures" to get rid of the incumbents.
5.you calling people with legitimate policy proposals as criminals does not make them evil either. lobbying can be done legitimately and transparently or it can be done using bribes and shady deals. a system where people know what's really happening inside their political system is much better than one where they don't because most bad decisions can be stopped before its too late.
6. guns may be useful/ may not be useful. that is a matter or consensus and gradual shift in culture which the government has to and should tolerate. what is obvious is that the prevalence of guns and their availability to a minority of unhinged individuals has not prevented the us from becoming a powerful political entity. lunatics with guns while dangerous are not what topple governments. armed uprisings do and the us democratic system has been able to effectively prevent that for more than 100 years even during times of serious political and economic crisis without resorting to taking away guns.
+shinigami19xx "they convince everyone that they're in a fight for freedom or equality or against corruption or whatever cause they choose".... and that is a problem? criticism should not stop when times are good. that's when most of the corruption happens because government officials are convinced people will be too content to care. when times go bad, the full effect of the unchecked corruption is felt. again, refer to the ghost cities of china.
if you are against organizing collecting money from contributions by its members and see it as "corrupt" then you should be an anarchist because the government does the same thing and unlike FG you can be punished for not paying.
1. no decision is fully good or fully bad. black and white thinking like that is naive. every decision has side effects which negatively impact some people more than others and such people have the right to criticize and demand compensatory measures. other citizens have the right to take up their cause as well. that's the whole reason democratic countries have a formal opposition.
"why dont they use snipers"... because then you turn a riot into a revolution. do you think you are the only one to come up with that idea? history has shown over and over when rioters/protesters die they become martyrs. the ccp has begun to understand this as well which is why it "didn't use snipers" against HK protesters. the only way to effectively stop protests is to prevent the conditions which create them in the first place. which requires political dialogue that cant happen in an environment of censorship.
2. helping youth in rural areas sounds like a great idea on paper and there were many responsible ways the government could have gone about implementing it had it communicated with their representatives and given them what they needed. instead in a typical dictatorial fashion it decided what's best without consultation and threw more and more money on solutions which were completely disconnected from reality.
3. see point 2
4."we must work for the good of the collective and not the individual"... that is just BS propaganda from the communist days to keep workers in line. the chinese leadership and economic elite accept capitalism(maximizing personal profit) and gain citizenship in foreign countries at the first opportunity. corruption in the top leadership is only a problem if it starts hurting the majority's pockets in which case they arrange an internal coup and then you have all these "anti corruption measures" to get rid of the incumbents.
5.you calling people with legitimate policy proposals as criminals does not make them evil either. lobbying can be done legitimately and transparently or it can be done using bribes and shady deals. a system where people know what's really happening inside their political system is much better than one where they don't because most bad decisions can be stopped before its too late.
6. guns may be useful/ may not be useful. that is a matter or consensus and gradual shift in culture which the government has to and should tolerate. what is obvious is that the prevalence of guns and their availability to a minority of unhinged individuals has not prevented the us from becoming a powerful political entity. lunatics with guns while dangerous are not what topple governments. armed uprisings do and the us democratic system has been able to effectively prevent that for more than 100 years even during times of serious political and economic crisis without resorting to taking away guns.
11 March 2016 04:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
shinigami19xx1 month ago
+john smith
Yes, I've seen the swastika in temples all over Asia but my point is, Falun Gong is just an evil brainwashing cult which tricks people into giving their money away and doesn't have any religious basis. Like L Ron Hubbard, the founder of Falun Gong (Li Hongzhi) just made up a nonsense cult and tricked people into joining. They target the weak minded and get them to cause all kinds of trouble, they make up propaganda and publish it in their weekly newspapers and fliers. And they convince everyone that they're in a fight for freedom or equality or against corruption or whatever cause they choose. Then of course this fight against evil requires funding so everyone must donate a portion of their income and events must be put on to raise more money. I can't imagine anything more corrupt than that.
1. In China, people do criticize the government, regardless of whether their decision was the correct one or not, because whatever decision they make, some people will be unhappy and some will think it's a good idea. And of course there are people like yourself who will just criticize anything they do, regardless of whether it's good or bad.
Yes, they do censor the media and they do crack down on protesters. But America censors it's media too and uses it as a propaganda tool to control the masses.
What China won't tolerate are the types of protests in America that turn into riots with people running around smashing and setting fire to cars and businesses for no reason. Using whatever they're unhappy about as an excuse for wanton destruction. Last time the protests happened in HK, streets were blocked off, taxis and delivery trucks couldn't deliver products to their customers, Businesses couldn't operate, people couldn't drop their kids at school and lots of people lost lots of money. Just because someone is unhappy about something, what gives them the right to congregate in an angry mob and smash my shop windows and stop my deliveries or mess up my business? They are just behaving like out of control animals. The same with the London riots, I was watching it on TV and thinking to myself "why don't they have snipers? if you see someone with a brick or an iron bar in their hands, just take them out".
2. You can hardly blame the government for trying to stimulate local economies in each province rather than just have all the young people leave and go to an already overcrowded city trying to find work. You try to navigate the traffic in Beijing or Shenzhen and you will understand the problem.
3. see point 2.
4. China has a saying "all under one sky", the mentality being that we must work for the good of the collective and not the individual. I'm not saying corruption doesn't occur at the highest levels sometimes but if it is discovered they can't silence it or cover it up. If too many people kick up a stink, it has to be investigated and dealt with. Just like old Billy and Monica, it's won't go away. Some high level officials do end up in jail if they are caught engaging in corruption.
5. Don't be naive, just because your criminals are wearing suits and ties and talk nicely and use paperwork to steal and corrupt the system, doesn't make them any less evil.
6. Do you honestly believe guns are a good thing in America? Yes, I get the idea, the people should be able to protect themselves, especially against a corrupt government but like I said in point 1, there are always going to be people who are unhappy with whatever decision the government makes. Now those people are armed and likely uneducated and antisocial. Maybe they don't agree with abortion, so they'll go and shoot up an abortion clinic (but don't worry, that'll never happen). Of they don't like a candidate or president so they decide to shoot them (But that would never happen in America would it?). Then of course you have little Timmy who's being bullied at school. Timmy remembers that his dad's gun is kept under the stair case so he decides to teach his class mates a lesson. There are just too many drugs, crazy and unhinged people. You can't allow everyone to have guns and still expect to live in peace and safety (again, unless you live in Switzerland).
+john smith
Yes, I've seen the swastika in temples all over Asia but my point is, Falun Gong is just an evil brainwashing cult which tricks people into giving their money away and doesn't have any religious basis. Like L Ron Hubbard, the founder of Falun Gong (Li Hongzhi) just made up a nonsense cult and tricked people into joining. They target the weak minded and get them to cause all kinds of trouble, they make up propaganda and publish it in their weekly newspapers and fliers. And they convince everyone that they're in a fight for freedom or equality or against corruption or whatever cause they choose. Then of course this fight against evil requires funding so everyone must donate a portion of their income and events must be put on to raise more money. I can't imagine anything more corrupt than that.
1. In China, people do criticize the government, regardless of whether their decision was the correct one or not, because whatever decision they make, some people will be unhappy and some will think it's a good idea. And of course there are people like yourself who will just criticize anything they do, regardless of whether it's good or bad.
Yes, they do censor the media and they do crack down on protesters. But America censors it's media too and uses it as a propaganda tool to control the masses.
What China won't tolerate are the types of protests in America that turn into riots with people running around smashing and setting fire to cars and businesses for no reason. Using whatever they're unhappy about as an excuse for wanton destruction. Last time the protests happened in HK, streets were blocked off, taxis and delivery trucks couldn't deliver products to their customers, Businesses couldn't operate, people couldn't drop their kids at school and lots of people lost lots of money. Just because someone is unhappy about something, what gives them the right to congregate in an angry mob and smash my shop windows and stop my deliveries or mess up my business? They are just behaving like out of control animals. The same with the London riots, I was watching it on TV and thinking to myself "why don't they have snipers? if you see someone with a brick or an iron bar in their hands, just take them out".
2. You can hardly blame the government for trying to stimulate local economies in each province rather than just have all the young people leave and go to an already overcrowded city trying to find work. You try to navigate the traffic in Beijing or Shenzhen and you will understand the problem.
3. see point 2.
4. China has a saying "all under one sky", the mentality being that we must work for the good of the collective and not the individual. I'm not saying corruption doesn't occur at the highest levels sometimes but if it is discovered they can't silence it or cover it up. If too many people kick up a stink, it has to be investigated and dealt with. Just like old Billy and Monica, it's won't go away. Some high level officials do end up in jail if they are caught engaging in corruption.
5. Don't be naive, just because your criminals are wearing suits and ties and talk nicely and use paperwork to steal and corrupt the system, doesn't make them any less evil.
6. Do you honestly believe guns are a good thing in America? Yes, I get the idea, the people should be able to protect themselves, especially against a corrupt government but like I said in point 1, there are always going to be people who are unhappy with whatever decision the government makes. Now those people are armed and likely uneducated and antisocial. Maybe they don't agree with abortion, so they'll go and shoot up an abortion clinic (but don't worry, that'll never happen). Of they don't like a candidate or president so they decide to shoot them (But that would never happen in America would it?). Then of course you have little Timmy who's being bullied at school. Timmy remembers that his dad's gun is kept under the stair case so he decides to teach his class mates a lesson. There are just too many drugs, crazy and unhinged people. You can't allow everyone to have guns and still expect to live in peace and safety (again, unless you live in Switzerland).
11 March 2016 04:55
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Ritzau Eberhard1 month ago
+Jelo M guess you know the country very well . Surely you have spend a lot of time there . If not , would be much better you wouldn't torture your keyboard :)
+Jelo M guess you know the country very well . Surely you have spend a lot of time there . If not , would be much better you wouldn't torture your keyboard :)
11 March 2016 04:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
john smith1 month ago (edited)
+shinigami19xx
firstly, the swastika is an asian religious symbol which was hijacked by the nazis. its cultural association predates nazism and has nothing to do with nazi ideology.
secondly, i like how you use the word 'some' to trivialize the scale of the problem even when you admit it exists
1. in the us you can call the opposition leaders dumb or criticize their policies because they are required to speak about their opinions/future policies to the public before they can be elected. im willing to bet there are even bigger idiots than trump in the ccp whose jobs are protected from ridicule by the anonymity which their dictatorship affords them.
2."You seem to think China is a tiny, backwards country".. no thats what the chinese migrants think which is why they are moving to the east coast. any opportunity that can be had has already been taken in the inner regions because they offer very little economic opportunities other than agriculture and mining and some construction projects. coastal regions are always the most economically developed in all major industrialized nations. telling people to go back to the interior is basically insulting them.
3. "some" developers have built entire cities with the encouragement of their provincial governments which are now economically nonviable.
4. most of the corruption reported in china is small scale and against local officials. no one will dare level corruption allegations against xi and his friends. and if such a report does happen the first organization to support xi will be the media. this is not how a normal government should work. whether or not action is taken the least people can expect is the right to freely criticize/protest against their top leadership when they think he is doing the wrong thing.
5. there is nothing wrong in supporting the interests of a corporation as long as it is done in a fair and transparent manner. businesses are not inherently against public interest. a crooked government official can not be stopped from being influenced by corporations but the damage they can do can be contained before it gets out of hand. that is where the role of free media,protests and elections come in. 3 things which the current chinese administration is unwilling to allow on a national scale.
6. the chinese government will get toppled in a few years if even 1/4 th of all chinese citizen were to have their own guns. while the us government has been ruling an armed citizenry from the day of its foundation. the right to posess guns is part of what makes us more politically stable. hence the debate on guns is a cultural one and needs large scale consensus. its not something which one bureaucrat can or should be able to decide without serious consultation. infact most of the strategies which china has rapidly without concensus implemented after liberalization originated in the west through a democratic process of discussion and consensus which lasted decades. china is reaping the benefits of the democratic process without knowing it.'
+shinigami19xx
firstly, the swastika is an asian religious symbol which was hijacked by the nazis. its cultural association predates nazism and has nothing to do with nazi ideology.
secondly, i like how you use the word 'some' to trivialize the scale of the problem even when you admit it exists
1. in the us you can call the opposition leaders dumb or criticize their policies because they are required to speak about their opinions/future policies to the public before they can be elected. im willing to bet there are even bigger idiots than trump in the ccp whose jobs are protected from ridicule by the anonymity which their dictatorship affords them.
2."You seem to think China is a tiny, backwards country".. no thats what the chinese migrants think which is why they are moving to the east coast. any opportunity that can be had has already been taken in the inner regions because they offer very little economic opportunities other than agriculture and mining and some construction projects. coastal regions are always the most economically developed in all major industrialized nations. telling people to go back to the interior is basically insulting them.
3. "some" developers have built entire cities with the encouragement of their provincial governments which are now economically nonviable.
4. most of the corruption reported in china is small scale and against local officials. no one will dare level corruption allegations against xi and his friends. and if such a report does happen the first organization to support xi will be the media. this is not how a normal government should work. whether or not action is taken the least people can expect is the right to freely criticize/protest against their top leadership when they think he is doing the wrong thing.
5. there is nothing wrong in supporting the interests of a corporation as long as it is done in a fair and transparent manner. businesses are not inherently against public interest. a crooked government official can not be stopped from being influenced by corporations but the damage they can do can be contained before it gets out of hand. that is where the role of free media,protests and elections come in. 3 things which the current chinese administration is unwilling to allow on a national scale.
6. the chinese government will get toppled in a few years if even 1/4 th of all chinese citizen were to have their own guns. while the us government has been ruling an armed citizenry from the day of its foundation. the right to posess guns is part of what makes us more politically stable. hence the debate on guns is a cultural one and needs large scale consensus. its not something which one bureaucrat can or should be able to decide without serious consultation. infact most of the strategies which china has rapidly without concensus implemented after liberalization originated in the west through a democratic process of discussion and consensus which lasted decades. china is reaping the benefits of the democratic process without knowing it.'
11 March 2016 04:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
'shinigami19xx1 month ago
+唐凯 It's no use. He's been brainwashed by CNN and Fox News and all the China Bashing that goes on in the media. Plus being subject to an American education makes his logic and reasoning ability very limited.
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Shujian Sun1 month ago
+john smith Cmon buddy don't be naive. It's common everywhere. You think US is the "Incarnation of Justice?" You do realize US is funding isis right? Don't you think isis is far more "evil" than kim jong un? Uncle Sam put steven avery in jail for 18 years for something he didn't do and nobody gave a damn about it. Fact that you say most chinese don't know about 64 massacre makes me wanna laugh. You think you know China and its people better than native born and raised Chinese? All I'm saying is, don't troll, keep an open mind, don't just criticize because media says "China prosecutes xxxx." It's COMMON and it happens EVERYWHERE.
+唐凯 It's no use. He's been brainwashed by CNN and Fox News and all the China Bashing that goes on in the media. Plus being subject to an American education makes his logic and reasoning ability very limited.
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Shujian Sun1 month ago
+john smith Cmon buddy don't be naive. It's common everywhere. You think US is the "Incarnation of Justice?" You do realize US is funding isis right? Don't you think isis is far more "evil" than kim jong un? Uncle Sam put steven avery in jail for 18 years for something he didn't do and nobody gave a damn about it. Fact that you say most chinese don't know about 64 massacre makes me wanna laugh. You think you know China and its people better than native born and raised Chinese? All I'm saying is, don't troll, keep an open mind, don't just criticize because media says "China prosecutes xxxx." It's COMMON and it happens EVERYWHERE.
11 March 2016 04:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
唐凯(TANGKai)1 month ago
+john smith Excuse me for not being able to comment on all your remarks, but there is one thing I really want to share with you.
In your response you talked about that people traveling long distance to work is impossible , thus the chinese shouldn't try so hard to developpe mid-China cities. However, China is pushing the developpement of central area in order to make it possible for the workers to work near their home. People commuting hundreds of kilometers to work is exactly what is happening in China during the last 30 years. The flow of workers from central areas to eastcoast is so large that during the Chinese New Year when people go back to visit their homes, there will be 2 billion passenger journeys within 40 days (which is called the largest annual human migration in the world), and the number is evergrowing. China is so eager to change this situation because this phenomenon has caused serious lack of labor and even social problems in mid China rural areas since all workforce there are gone.
Mid-China cities would never have a scale as large as Beijing/Shanghai/Shenzhen/Guangzhou? In the same way Marseille will never become Paris but it doesn't mean they don't deserve invests. In fact, the companies are deliberately moving towards central areas because the land and workforce there is way cheaper and the transportation in China is no longer what it was 30 years ago. If you look into developpement of cities like Wuhan/Chongqing/Chengdu, you'll see what I mean. It's not your simple so-called "common sense fact".
+john smith Excuse me for not being able to comment on all your remarks, but there is one thing I really want to share with you.
In your response you talked about that people traveling long distance to work is impossible , thus the chinese shouldn't try so hard to developpe mid-China cities. However, China is pushing the developpement of central area in order to make it possible for the workers to work near their home. People commuting hundreds of kilometers to work is exactly what is happening in China during the last 30 years. The flow of workers from central areas to eastcoast is so large that during the Chinese New Year when people go back to visit their homes, there will be 2 billion passenger journeys within 40 days (which is called the largest annual human migration in the world), and the number is evergrowing. China is so eager to change this situation because this phenomenon has caused serious lack of labor and even social problems in mid China rural areas since all workforce there are gone.
Mid-China cities would never have a scale as large as Beijing/Shanghai/Shenzhen/Guangzhou? In the same way Marseille will never become Paris but it doesn't mean they don't deserve invests. In fact, the companies are deliberately moving towards central areas because the land and workforce there is way cheaper and the transportation in China is no longer what it was 30 years ago. If you look into developpement of cities like Wuhan/Chongqing/Chengdu, you'll see what I mean. It's not your simple so-called "common sense fact".
11 March 2016 04:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
shinigami19xx1 month ago
I'm not sure why you're so eager to support Falun Gong, are you a mamber? have you actually done any research on how their cult works? Did you know that they meditate and focus on a swastika as part of their training?
1. You don't know anything about my life. Yes, I am wealthy but it wasn't easy to become wealthy and I'm not ashamed of it.
Everyone calls the opposition dumb, have you seen any of Donald Trumps campaign adds? People say that idiot is the leading candidate!
Some tenants just dig their heals in and refuse to move, no matter what they are offered in compensation. I agree, they should have the right to do that but at the same time, I also believe Beijing, just like every other major city around the world should be able to grow and modernize.
2. No one is forcing people to live in Beijing, if it's too expensive, China is a big country, they can chose to live anywhere they please. There is not only work and factories in Beijing and Shenzhen. China has 23 provinces, each province is unique and offers different opportunities. You seem to think China is a tiny, backwards country somewhere, it's not. It's bigger than the US and has almost 4 times the population. Your comment would be equivalent to me saying that there is only work and factories in Chicaco and Kentucky. A comment based on ignorance.
3. I agree, some developers have build apartments and shopping centers in the middle of nowhere. They have the mentality of "If we build it. they will come" only it doesn't work. If someone asks you to invest in property in the middle of nowhere, you are likely to say "no thanks" as most people do. The result is that those places stay 90% empty with only a handful of foolish investers actually buying the properties.
4. You would be surprised to learn that there is also a lot of public resistance to corruption in China and there are anti corruption bodies who investigate any reported issues. Social media in China is just as prevalent as in the US. True, not many people can access facebook or Youtube unless they have TOR or something similar but there are dozens of social media apps and sites where people report corruption and upload videos.
5. Now who is being naive? America has systems in place which prevent corruption? How does congress work? You have a bunch of congressmen who vote on things right? How do you become a congressman? Large corporations support them and help them attain the position of congressman. In return, they vote on key issues which support the agenda of the corporations that back them. The corruption in the US is just more deeply entrenched and such a part of life that people are used to it and don't question it.
6. I still don't see you offering a better solutions to the over population problem in China. Of course there are side effects to such a drastic policy but any drastic treatment of a disease has side effects. Chemotherapy causes nerve damage and makes your hair fall out but at least it kills the cancer which is killing you. Antibiotics kill the good bacteria in your stomach, causing digestive problems but at least it cures the infection which is killing you.
Sometimes you need to look at the big picture and make tough decisions.
Like guns in the US. The Chinese government would say, "enough is enough, no more guns" and that would be that. But the government in America can't do that and can't even protect it's own citizens,
I'm not sure why you're so eager to support Falun Gong, are you a mamber? have you actually done any research on how their cult works? Did you know that they meditate and focus on a swastika as part of their training?
1. You don't know anything about my life. Yes, I am wealthy but it wasn't easy to become wealthy and I'm not ashamed of it.
Everyone calls the opposition dumb, have you seen any of Donald Trumps campaign adds? People say that idiot is the leading candidate!
Some tenants just dig their heals in and refuse to move, no matter what they are offered in compensation. I agree, they should have the right to do that but at the same time, I also believe Beijing, just like every other major city around the world should be able to grow and modernize.
2. No one is forcing people to live in Beijing, if it's too expensive, China is a big country, they can chose to live anywhere they please. There is not only work and factories in Beijing and Shenzhen. China has 23 provinces, each province is unique and offers different opportunities. You seem to think China is a tiny, backwards country somewhere, it's not. It's bigger than the US and has almost 4 times the population. Your comment would be equivalent to me saying that there is only work and factories in Chicaco and Kentucky. A comment based on ignorance.
3. I agree, some developers have build apartments and shopping centers in the middle of nowhere. They have the mentality of "If we build it. they will come" only it doesn't work. If someone asks you to invest in property in the middle of nowhere, you are likely to say "no thanks" as most people do. The result is that those places stay 90% empty with only a handful of foolish investers actually buying the properties.
4. You would be surprised to learn that there is also a lot of public resistance to corruption in China and there are anti corruption bodies who investigate any reported issues. Social media in China is just as prevalent as in the US. True, not many people can access facebook or Youtube unless they have TOR or something similar but there are dozens of social media apps and sites where people report corruption and upload videos.
5. Now who is being naive? America has systems in place which prevent corruption? How does congress work? You have a bunch of congressmen who vote on things right? How do you become a congressman? Large corporations support them and help them attain the position of congressman. In return, they vote on key issues which support the agenda of the corporations that back them. The corruption in the US is just more deeply entrenched and such a part of life that people are used to it and don't question it.
6. I still don't see you offering a better solutions to the over population problem in China. Of course there are side effects to such a drastic policy but any drastic treatment of a disease has side effects. Chemotherapy causes nerve damage and makes your hair fall out but at least it kills the cancer which is killing you. Antibiotics kill the good bacteria in your stomach, causing digestive problems but at least it cures the infection which is killing you.
Sometimes you need to look at the big picture and make tough decisions.
Like guns in the US. The Chinese government would say, "enough is enough, no more guns" and that would be that. But the government in America can't do that and can't even protect it's own citizens,
11 March 2016 04:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
john smith1 month ago
+shinigami19xx
1. it seems your cushy bejing life has made you blind to your fellow chinese people struggling in the villages. you think most chinese people in villages are idiots? if they are offered proper compensation to buy new land and a house they will say no? you should get a clue and stop listening to the ccp propaganda which keeps calling all people who dont agree with it as dumb or malicious. the compensation is useless and the houses are in a location unsuitable for commercial activity. THAT is the issue.
2. seriously? property in beijing is expensive so the solution is to build houses that an average chinese factory worker wont be able to afford even with his entire life's salary? i dont expect the majority to live in luxury condominiums. your government does. which is what most of the housing projects are. useless buildings which the large portion of the market cant afford. if you dont trust me why dont you ask your rich beijing investor friends who lost money in the chinese real estate bubble? the us government does not snatch land from existing farmers, construct luxury condominiums and then claim these buildings are for poor migrants. that is basic economics which the ccp unfortunately overlooked in its rush to inflate its gdp figures.
3. people cant commute hundreds of kilometers no matter how desperate they are. china has built ghost cities in the middle of the barren central regions of china. where as most of the factories are located in shenzhen / beijing/east coast of china. no factories will ever be set up in central china on the scale of shenzhen yet the central government completely ignored that little common sense fact.
4. india/us governments do not encourage removing poor migrants away from their cities. and if there is such a proposal there is resistance from human rights groups,media and politicians. ie the government does not act unanimously without a debate.
5. the us is far less corrupt than the chinese government because there is an infrastructure to expose large scale corruption. same goes for india. there are also alternative political parties to replace the existing government if large scale corruption does get exposed. in china even if the people know their government is corrupt there is nothing they can do because no alternative exists.
6. people starving to death does not give the ccp license to try dumb policies without consultation. any demographer could have told them this would lead to a higher number of old people but neither did they care about such advice nor did they seek it because they had eliminated anyone who could have told them this.
+shinigami19xx
1. it seems your cushy bejing life has made you blind to your fellow chinese people struggling in the villages. you think most chinese people in villages are idiots? if they are offered proper compensation to buy new land and a house they will say no? you should get a clue and stop listening to the ccp propaganda which keeps calling all people who dont agree with it as dumb or malicious. the compensation is useless and the houses are in a location unsuitable for commercial activity. THAT is the issue.
2. seriously? property in beijing is expensive so the solution is to build houses that an average chinese factory worker wont be able to afford even with his entire life's salary? i dont expect the majority to live in luxury condominiums. your government does. which is what most of the housing projects are. useless buildings which the large portion of the market cant afford. if you dont trust me why dont you ask your rich beijing investor friends who lost money in the chinese real estate bubble? the us government does not snatch land from existing farmers, construct luxury condominiums and then claim these buildings are for poor migrants. that is basic economics which the ccp unfortunately overlooked in its rush to inflate its gdp figures.
3. people cant commute hundreds of kilometers no matter how desperate they are. china has built ghost cities in the middle of the barren central regions of china. where as most of the factories are located in shenzhen / beijing/east coast of china. no factories will ever be set up in central china on the scale of shenzhen yet the central government completely ignored that little common sense fact.
4. india/us governments do not encourage removing poor migrants away from their cities. and if there is such a proposal there is resistance from human rights groups,media and politicians. ie the government does not act unanimously without a debate.
5. the us is far less corrupt than the chinese government because there is an infrastructure to expose large scale corruption. same goes for india. there are also alternative political parties to replace the existing government if large scale corruption does get exposed. in china even if the people know their government is corrupt there is nothing they can do because no alternative exists.
6. people starving to death does not give the ccp license to try dumb policies without consultation. any demographer could have told them this would lead to a higher number of old people but neither did they care about such advice nor did they seek it because they had eliminated anyone who could have told them this.
11 March 2016 04:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
shinigami19xx1 month ago
+john smith
1. The mostly poor and semi illiterate people are offered accommodation in new apartments. Often they reject the offer and demand that they stay where they are. That is where the problems occur. But there are plenty of people who win that debate and get to keep their shabby hovel in the middle of a highway or built up area.
2. Property in Beijing is expensive, just as it is in the majority of big cities around the world. Of course there is affordable living but the conditions aren't great. Having more and earning more money means you can afford better things. There is a space problem in Beijing, would you expect the poor and semi illiterate to live in penthouses? How many people in the US and Europe are homeless and destitute? Do they all live in luxurious apartments? I'm wondering which magical paradise of a country do you live in that is so perfect?
3. I fail to see your point here. People can commute to places. Is every house in America built next to a factory or business? There are such things as cars, buses, bicycles and trains in China believe it or not. Everyone doesn't rely on walking or riding a horse.
4. Again, how many destitute people do you find living in the Hamptons or Malibu? I bet India Creak Country Club is just crawling with destitute people?
China isn't perfect, but then no country is (with the possible exception of Switzerland). America is probably the most corrupt country on the planet.
And I agree with the one child policy. The country was over populated, people were starving to death and it was unsustainable. It was a drastic measure but a necessary one. The current generation are allowed to have 2 children if both parents come from a one child family.
However, for those who can afford to take care of more children (in other words, those who are willing and able to accept financial responsibility) they can chose to pay and have more children. I know families that have several children in China. Again, you are attempting to look at a situation with a distorted view and judge it accordingly. What would your solutions have been? just let everyone keep having children until they are all killed by plague and famine?
+john smith
1. The mostly poor and semi illiterate people are offered accommodation in new apartments. Often they reject the offer and demand that they stay where they are. That is where the problems occur. But there are plenty of people who win that debate and get to keep their shabby hovel in the middle of a highway or built up area.
2. Property in Beijing is expensive, just as it is in the majority of big cities around the world. Of course there is affordable living but the conditions aren't great. Having more and earning more money means you can afford better things. There is a space problem in Beijing, would you expect the poor and semi illiterate to live in penthouses? How many people in the US and Europe are homeless and destitute? Do they all live in luxurious apartments? I'm wondering which magical paradise of a country do you live in that is so perfect?
3. I fail to see your point here. People can commute to places. Is every house in America built next to a factory or business? There are such things as cars, buses, bicycles and trains in China believe it or not. Everyone doesn't rely on walking or riding a horse.
4. Again, how many destitute people do you find living in the Hamptons or Malibu? I bet India Creak Country Club is just crawling with destitute people?
China isn't perfect, but then no country is (with the possible exception of Switzerland). America is probably the most corrupt country on the planet.
And I agree with the one child policy. The country was over populated, people were starving to death and it was unsustainable. It was a drastic measure but a necessary one. The current generation are allowed to have 2 children if both parents come from a one child family.
However, for those who can afford to take care of more children (in other words, those who are willing and able to accept financial responsibility) they can chose to pay and have more children. I know families that have several children in China. Again, you are attempting to look at a situation with a distorted view and judge it accordingly. What would your solutions have been? just let everyone keep having children until they are all killed by plague and famine?
11 March 2016 04:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ohn smith1 month ago (edited)
+shinigami19xx building houses to accommodate new people is a wonderful idea on paper.
unfortunately what the glamorous propaganda machine of the ccp does not want people to know is:
1.the (mostly poor and semi literate) people are provided very little compensation for taking away the land which they depended on for their livelihood.
2. most of the apartments built are for upper middle class income earners not factory workers ie the millions of people who actually need those apartments.
3. a large portion of the new construction is happening in areas where there is no industry/prospect of job creation.(look up ordos)
4. Beijing is "westernized" in appearance because people who are destitute are thrown out of the city/not allowed entry in the first place.
in democratic countries there are mechanisms which are there to prevent builders from abusing their wealth and collaborating with the government which is how most of the reports of corruption come out in the first place. in china not even the media can help the people because it is muzzled by the ruling party. which is why the only thing you hear about is how wonderful china is and any negative criticism from media is focused on those who are not part of the group currently in power within the ccp.
just because someone's belief is false or irrational does not make them a candidate for persecution. that is the hallmark of extremism. multi relgious and muli cultural societies like the us/india exist because the most productive people in those societies ignore their colleague's beliefs and focus on how to cooperate and get the work done. there will always be 2 people with different beliefs. be it in religion/politics/economics. one person/group of people will never be right every single time.
if the group currently in power continues to jail others for not sharing its perspective then it will by sheer statistics continue to make mistakes over time and there will not be anyone to correct it. those mistakes will keep adding up. china's one child policy is a classic example. where now the ccp is struggling to manage the situation after years of implementing a poorly thought out policy.
+shinigami19xx building houses to accommodate new people is a wonderful idea on paper.
unfortunately what the glamorous propaganda machine of the ccp does not want people to know is:
1.the (mostly poor and semi literate) people are provided very little compensation for taking away the land which they depended on for their livelihood.
2. most of the apartments built are for upper middle class income earners not factory workers ie the millions of people who actually need those apartments.
3. a large portion of the new construction is happening in areas where there is no industry/prospect of job creation.(look up ordos)
4. Beijing is "westernized" in appearance because people who are destitute are thrown out of the city/not allowed entry in the first place.
in democratic countries there are mechanisms which are there to prevent builders from abusing their wealth and collaborating with the government which is how most of the reports of corruption come out in the first place. in china not even the media can help the people because it is muzzled by the ruling party. which is why the only thing you hear about is how wonderful china is and any negative criticism from media is focused on those who are not part of the group currently in power within the ccp.
just because someone's belief is false or irrational does not make them a candidate for persecution. that is the hallmark of extremism. multi relgious and muli cultural societies like the us/india exist because the most productive people in those societies ignore their colleague's beliefs and focus on how to cooperate and get the work done. there will always be 2 people with different beliefs. be it in religion/politics/economics. one person/group of people will never be right every single time.
if the group currently in power continues to jail others for not sharing its perspective then it will by sheer statistics continue to make mistakes over time and there will not be anyone to correct it. those mistakes will keep adding up. china's one child policy is a classic example. where now the ccp is struggling to manage the situation after years of implementing a poorly thought out policy.
11 March 2016 04:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
shinigami19xx1 month ago
+john smith I really think you should visit China. The terrifying picture you're painting doesn't reflect the life in China at all.
When you go for a walk to the park, buy icecream and see the kids playing happily in the playground. Or when you go to the shopping mall or night club or watch a live band or catch a movie, there doesn't seem to be much difference between China and any western country I've visited. Save the lack of Vandalism, drug use and antisocial behavior (Usually related to drug use).
Other countries have land reclamation too. People are generally compensated if their land is needed for a major development. The same as many western countries. (watch the Australian movie: The Castle, for a good example of this). Again, this is related to population issues, not evil communism. You have millions of people flocking to Beijing to work and not enough housing. Then right in the middle of the city you have a few old single story dwellings that have been there a few hundred years and are fairly run down and hovel like. Even though they're offered a brand new apartment to replace the hovel they currently live in, they don't want to sell because "Fuck you, I wanna live here!". Eventually some developers take the law into their own hands and bully the tenants out. Again, this kind of thing happens in every country.
Btw, I'm an atheist by choice, I'm not brainwashable. Many of the people around me are religious. I personally think religion is either silly or outright dangerous. Because quite bluntly, it's false, fantasy, nonsense. But people believe in it and structure their whole lives around that belief system.
+john smith I really think you should visit China. The terrifying picture you're painting doesn't reflect the life in China at all.
When you go for a walk to the park, buy icecream and see the kids playing happily in the playground. Or when you go to the shopping mall or night club or watch a live band or catch a movie, there doesn't seem to be much difference between China and any western country I've visited. Save the lack of Vandalism, drug use and antisocial behavior (Usually related to drug use).
Other countries have land reclamation too. People are generally compensated if their land is needed for a major development. The same as many western countries. (watch the Australian movie: The Castle, for a good example of this). Again, this is related to population issues, not evil communism. You have millions of people flocking to Beijing to work and not enough housing. Then right in the middle of the city you have a few old single story dwellings that have been there a few hundred years and are fairly run down and hovel like. Even though they're offered a brand new apartment to replace the hovel they currently live in, they don't want to sell because "Fuck you, I wanna live here!". Eventually some developers take the law into their own hands and bully the tenants out. Again, this kind of thing happens in every country.
Btw, I'm an atheist by choice, I'm not brainwashable. Many of the people around me are religious. I personally think religion is either silly or outright dangerous. Because quite bluntly, it's false, fantasy, nonsense. But people believe in it and structure their whole lives around that belief system.
11 March 2016 04:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ohn smith1 month ago (edited)
+shinigami19xx you are an atheist because you were ordered to be one and the people who tried to argue otherwise were hunted down and silenced.religion isnt a serious threat to the world. extreme dedcation to ideology is. and that is exactly what china's atheism is about. i have reached my conclusion after speaking to religious people and studying their religion/culture over the free internet not by being told to do so.
social unrest is the lifeblood of civilization. a nation which is unwilling to tolerate unrest is simply delaying an inevitable much larger revolution. do you really think those people whose houses and land has been taken away for making developers and bureaucrats richer/whose relatives have been kidnapped without any explanation will sit back when the time is right? the only thing keeping china floating are the factories which might i remind you are there only temporarily. once the factories relocate to cheaper countries the factory workers will happily join the ranks of angry chinese peasants.
it shows your ignorance if you thing death penalties scare people into behaving good. the more people you kill/torture the more resentment you build up and you create more people who are willing to die fighting against you. the chinese government is world famous for fudging up statistics and censoring news reports to make itself look good. and so it does the same thing for its crime rates. the number of protests in china are going up every year even when its economy was growing by around 9%. when that number becomes lower and the free money/jobs dries up the ccp is going to face an uprising on an unprecedented scale no matter how many people they kill.
+shinigami19xx you are an atheist because you were ordered to be one and the people who tried to argue otherwise were hunted down and silenced.religion isnt a serious threat to the world. extreme dedcation to ideology is. and that is exactly what china's atheism is about. i have reached my conclusion after speaking to religious people and studying their religion/culture over the free internet not by being told to do so.
social unrest is the lifeblood of civilization. a nation which is unwilling to tolerate unrest is simply delaying an inevitable much larger revolution. do you really think those people whose houses and land has been taken away for making developers and bureaucrats richer/whose relatives have been kidnapped without any explanation will sit back when the time is right? the only thing keeping china floating are the factories which might i remind you are there only temporarily. once the factories relocate to cheaper countries the factory workers will happily join the ranks of angry chinese peasants.
it shows your ignorance if you thing death penalties scare people into behaving good. the more people you kill/torture the more resentment you build up and you create more people who are willing to die fighting against you. the chinese government is world famous for fudging up statistics and censoring news reports to make itself look good. and so it does the same thing for its crime rates. the number of protests in china are going up every year even when its economy was growing by around 9%. when that number becomes lower and the free money/jobs dries up the ccp is going to face an uprising on an unprecedented scale no matter how many people they kill.
11 March 2016 04:51
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shinigami19xx1 month ago
+john smith You try to run a country with 1.3 billion citizens. try to feed them all and keep them safe.
The last thing you need is social unrest.
If you have religious fanatics inciting violence and suicide in your country, you need to stamp that shit out. In my experience, China has a zero tolerance policy on stupid shit.
- Drugs, banned, lengthy jail time or death penalty.
- Religious cults, banned, possible jail time.
- Child sexual abuse, death penalty.
- Guns, not available.
I'm am atheist too, by choice but I believe that religions are dangerous and sometimes outright evil. And I believe some religions should be banned. Scientology for one.
I think you need to travel more and experience other countries by yourself instead of being brain washed by the media.
Walking the streets of China, day or night feels safe. There is very little violent crime there and you don't run the risk of being gunned down at any moment (unlike some other civilized countries who shall remain nameless).
+john smith You try to run a country with 1.3 billion citizens. try to feed them all and keep them safe.
The last thing you need is social unrest.
If you have religious fanatics inciting violence and suicide in your country, you need to stamp that shit out. In my experience, China has a zero tolerance policy on stupid shit.
- Drugs, banned, lengthy jail time or death penalty.
- Religious cults, banned, possible jail time.
- Child sexual abuse, death penalty.
- Guns, not available.
I'm am atheist too, by choice but I believe that religions are dangerous and sometimes outright evil. And I believe some religions should be banned. Scientology for one.
I think you need to travel more and experience other countries by yourself instead of being brain washed by the media.
Walking the streets of China, day or night feels safe. There is very little violent crime there and you don't run the risk of being gunned down at any moment (unlike some other civilized countries who shall remain nameless).
11 March 2016 04:50
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Jelo M1 month ago
+shinigami19xx china is evil in general. Current invasions going on, ignored crimes, rape being ignored in public, ignored murder in public, tolerated slaughter, smuggling endangered species, drug traffic, human traffic, slavery, child labor, etc.. nothing new to them.
刘培旭
刘培旭1 month ago
+Jelo M THAT''S INDIA
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john smith
john smith1 month ago
+刘培旭 in india you win awards for exposing these things. in china you get thrown in prison for "damaging the image of the country to the world"
+shinigami19xx china is evil in general. Current invasions going on, ignored crimes, rape being ignored in public, ignored murder in public, tolerated slaughter, smuggling endangered species, drug traffic, human traffic, slavery, child labor, etc.. nothing new to them.
刘培旭
刘培旭1 month ago
+Jelo M THAT''S INDIA
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john smith
john smith1 month ago
+刘培旭 in india you win awards for exposing these things. in china you get thrown in prison for "damaging the image of the country to the world"
11 March 2016 04:50
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john smith1 month ago (edited)
+shinigami19xx your friend is clever indeed. considering what happens to people who openly criticize the chinese government saying "i was misled" gets the wolves off of her back.
stability? what aspect of a country that starves and blinds its own people can china see that promotes stability? north korea should not exist. its a failed state run by dangerous criminals who are seen as a threat by a large majority of the civilized world. even countries like saudi arabia and iran are gradually changing where as NK is becoming more and more paranoid. its clear china seems fit to leave a dangerous status quo intact for short term interests.
do you know who i dont believe? a state run media which toes the government's line. let china open up the internet and let its citizens access all websites freely. then we can have an open discussion of who is right or wrong. but too bad that is not what the ccp wants. so until they do they ,their sources of information will have less credibility to the rest of the world.
lets not talk about china's law when there is a political organization that is proudly above it and operates as such.
im myself an atheist but my decision was my own conclusion and im proud to say the system that enabled me to think this way did not try to prevent me by blocking my internet or imprisoning like minded individuals to intimidate me. organized religion in china's as in north korea is a joke the ccp plays on the followers as well as the rest of the world. last i heard a church was demolished for building a cross which was considered too high.
im sure there are departments within the ccp which recruit trolls. for more details i suggest you go to the people who monitor china's social media and maintain its firewall.
+shinigami19xx your friend is clever indeed. considering what happens to people who openly criticize the chinese government saying "i was misled" gets the wolves off of her back.
stability? what aspect of a country that starves and blinds its own people can china see that promotes stability? north korea should not exist. its a failed state run by dangerous criminals who are seen as a threat by a large majority of the civilized world. even countries like saudi arabia and iran are gradually changing where as NK is becoming more and more paranoid. its clear china seems fit to leave a dangerous status quo intact for short term interests.
do you know who i dont believe? a state run media which toes the government's line. let china open up the internet and let its citizens access all websites freely. then we can have an open discussion of who is right or wrong. but too bad that is not what the ccp wants. so until they do they ,their sources of information will have less credibility to the rest of the world.
lets not talk about china's law when there is a political organization that is proudly above it and operates as such.
im myself an atheist but my decision was my own conclusion and im proud to say the system that enabled me to think this way did not try to prevent me by blocking my internet or imprisoning like minded individuals to intimidate me. organized religion in china's as in north korea is a joke the ccp plays on the followers as well as the rest of the world. last i heard a church was demolished for building a cross which was considered too high.
im sure there are departments within the ccp which recruit trolls. for more details i suggest you go to the people who monitor china's social media and maintain its firewall.
11 March 2016 04:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
shinigami19xx1 month ago
+john smith I have a friend who was at Tienanmen square protesting the day before the tanks rolled in.
At the time she just got caught up in all the emotion and followed blindly like a sheep. However, she now reflects on the whole experience and believes that someone intentionally incited the students to protest in order to create instability in the nations capital.
You're right, China does have a stake in North Korea but they are not supporting the actions of Kim Jong Un and have openly condemned the nuclear tests, even going as far as to impose trade sanctions.
Frankly, China makes billions of dollars a year by supplying North Korea with food and power and other goods. Just as the US makes billions of dollars a year selling guns and other weapons to governments, armies and mercenaries all over the world and of course to their own citizens.
China's main objectives in North Korea are to maintain stability in the region and continue trading with north Korea. Can you blame them, With all the trade sanctions from every other country, China has a monopoly on trade with NK, it's just good business. Also, just because the leader of NK is a bit bonkers, doesn't mean the countries people should starve and suffer without food or power.
And how do you know that Falun gong members families are targeted and sent to forced labor camps? Did you read it in a falun gong newsletter? Do you believe everything you see on Fox news or CNN as well?
Chinese Law doesn't allow for the punishment of family members for the crime of an individual. For instance, in China, if your brother commits a crime and the police come looking for him, you may know his whereabouts but they can't force you to tell them or charge you with any crime if you don't tell them. In America you would be charged with harboring a fugitive.
And why are you such a staunch supporter of Falun Gong? They are similar to Scientologists in their absurdity.
Although China is for the most part an Atheist country, there are many religions practiced there. Bhudism, Taoism, Christianity and even Islam. There are churches and mosques around the place too.
Also, I troll for free but if anyone wants to pay me to do it, I'm more than happy to accept.
+john smith I have a friend who was at Tienanmen square protesting the day before the tanks rolled in.
At the time she just got caught up in all the emotion and followed blindly like a sheep. However, she now reflects on the whole experience and believes that someone intentionally incited the students to protest in order to create instability in the nations capital.
You're right, China does have a stake in North Korea but they are not supporting the actions of Kim Jong Un and have openly condemned the nuclear tests, even going as far as to impose trade sanctions.
Frankly, China makes billions of dollars a year by supplying North Korea with food and power and other goods. Just as the US makes billions of dollars a year selling guns and other weapons to governments, armies and mercenaries all over the world and of course to their own citizens.
China's main objectives in North Korea are to maintain stability in the region and continue trading with north Korea. Can you blame them, With all the trade sanctions from every other country, China has a monopoly on trade with NK, it's just good business. Also, just because the leader of NK is a bit bonkers, doesn't mean the countries people should starve and suffer without food or power.
And how do you know that Falun gong members families are targeted and sent to forced labor camps? Did you read it in a falun gong newsletter? Do you believe everything you see on Fox news or CNN as well?
Chinese Law doesn't allow for the punishment of family members for the crime of an individual. For instance, in China, if your brother commits a crime and the police come looking for him, you may know his whereabouts but they can't force you to tell them or charge you with any crime if you don't tell them. In America you would be charged with harboring a fugitive.
And why are you such a staunch supporter of Falun Gong? They are similar to Scientologists in their absurdity.
Although China is for the most part an Atheist country, there are many religions practiced there. Bhudism, Taoism, Christianity and even Islam. There are churches and mosques around the place too.
Also, I troll for free but if anyone wants to pay me to do it, I'm more than happy to accept.
11 March 2016 04:49
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john smith1 month ago
its ironic that most chinese dont know about the massacre of Tienanmen square but have been made to learn some bs story about fg. china supports north korea whose leader is everything you describe here and even worst because unlike fg he has nuclear weapons and an army. so the ccp's way of helping the north koreans is by funding their regime and defending them in the UN while its strategy for defending fg practitioners is to threaten their family and throw them in labor camps? you have access to the free internet so use it instead of making yourself look like another paid troll.
its ironic that most chinese dont know about the massacre of Tienanmen square but have been made to learn some bs story about fg. china supports north korea whose leader is everything you describe here and even worst because unlike fg he has nuclear weapons and an army. so the ccp's way of helping the north koreans is by funding their regime and defending them in the UN while its strategy for defending fg practitioners is to threaten their family and throw them in labor camps? you have access to the free internet so use it instead of making yourself look like another paid troll.
11 March 2016 04:49
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shinigami19xx1 month ago
She's a brainwashed cultist.
Her religion was banned in China because they encouraged their followers to protest against the government by chaining themselves to a wall at Tienanmen square and setting themselves on fire. Each member of the cult were told that the flames wouldn't hurt them and they would wake up in paradise.
Only one girl survived and she was hideously burned all over. She cries every day and regrets joining falun gong.
A religion started by a factory worker who preaches that he can fly and stop a car traveling at 60 Mph just using his Qi (Chi).
Their magazines and newspapers publish false and sensationalized stories about how evil China is.
Can you really blame China for banning her?
Look at how America treats Julian Assange and Edward Snowden, 2 people who's only crime is telling the truth.
Falun gong is an evil brainwashing cult who prey on weak minded and easily manipulated people.
She's a brainwashed cultist.
Her religion was banned in China because they encouraged their followers to protest against the government by chaining themselves to a wall at Tienanmen square and setting themselves on fire. Each member of the cult were told that the flames wouldn't hurt them and they would wake up in paradise.
Only one girl survived and she was hideously burned all over. She cries every day and regrets joining falun gong.
A religion started by a factory worker who preaches that he can fly and stop a car traveling at 60 Mph just using his Qi (Chi).
Their magazines and newspapers publish false and sensationalized stories about how evil China is.
Can you really blame China for banning her?
Look at how America treats Julian Assange and Edward Snowden, 2 people who's only crime is telling the truth.
Falun gong is an evil brainwashing cult who prey on weak minded and easily manipulated people.
11 March 2016 04:49
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And something, that will bring all mentioned tactics, China, Women, and much more together, is that video, rather, the comments under it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Liac-d31MKI&feature=youtu.be#t=454.227312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Liac-d31MKI&feature=youtu.be#t=454.227312
11 March 2016 04:45
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polarbears
11 March 2016 03:07
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one day country road will call me...
but am not calling now.. just stepping by,
to say hi
but am not calling now.. just stepping by,
to say hi
11 March 2016 03:07
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sorry about that, i am living half way in the city and with other half in a computer,, or them one of the two in me, depens, we like to reverse sides
11 March 2016 03:06
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if am would know, would ask somethng like "Fender or Squier" ?
11 March 2016 02:57
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proper 60s, if am would only know
11 March 2016 02:56
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roger
11 March 2016 02:50
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Man, but this Poe guy is for real as real human, like English gentlemen level, one can be. seriously, can we imagine if that would be ... it should be real face of USA
Just look at that expression when they have to wait for a simple strategy plan and report... that even teenager can make up with ease
when they are awake
Just look at that expression when they have to wait for a simple strategy plan and report... that even teenager can make up with ease
when they are awake
10 March 2016 23:42
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https://defensesystems.com/articles/2016/03/04/dod-cyber-warrior-workforce.aspx
The Defense Department created U.S. Cyber Command in 2009 as a sub-unified service under the Strategic Command as a means of better enabling cyber operations. Within this structure, the force sought to build a Cyber Mission Force to fill the ranks in a variety of capacities as they relate to operations in cyberspace. The goal is to fill 133 teams consisting of 6,200 personnel with an operational capacity by 2018.
“By the end of 2016, all the teams will be in place and at initial operating capability. And by the end of 2018, we expect all those teams to be at full operational capability,
The 133 teams will consist of 68 cyber protection teams focused on DOD’s number one mission— defense of the network—13 national mission teams to help defend the nation’s critical infrastructure, 27 combat mission teams aligned with the combatant commanders and assist in their planning, and 25 support teams that can be called upon, with another 2,000 service members in the reserves.
The Defense Department created U.S. Cyber Command in 2009 as a sub-unified service under the Strategic Command as a means of better enabling cyber operations. Within this structure, the force sought to build a Cyber Mission Force to fill the ranks in a variety of capacities as they relate to operations in cyberspace. The goal is to fill 133 teams consisting of 6,200 personnel with an operational capacity by 2018.
“By the end of 2016, all the teams will be in place and at initial operating capability. And by the end of 2018, we expect all those teams to be at full operational capability,
The 133 teams will consist of 68 cyber protection teams focused on DOD’s number one mission— defense of the network—13 national mission teams to help defend the nation’s critical infrastructure, 27 combat mission teams aligned with the combatant commanders and assist in their planning, and 25 support teams that can be called upon, with another 2,000 service members in the reserves.
https://defensesystems.com/articles/2016/03/04/dod-cyber-warrior-workforce.aspx
10 March 2016 22:11
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This pattern has produced a fairly yo
ung corporate sector for China: 56%
of all Chinese companies registered at
the end of 2012 were five years old
or younger, that is, created since 2007. Over 85% of all firms in existence at
the end of 2012 were only formed after China joined the WTO at the end
of 2001. And only 1% of Chinese co
mpanies—or less than 137,000 firms
out of 13.2m—have been around since
1987, the year before China passed
its first law for private enterprises.
That represents an almost complete
replacement of the corporate sector.
ung corporate sector for China: 56%
of all Chinese companies registered at
the end of 2012 were five years old
or younger, that is, created since 2007. Over 85% of all firms in existence at
the end of 2012 were only formed after China joined the WTO at the end
of 2001. And only 1% of Chinese co
mpanies—or less than 137,000 firms
out of 13.2m—have been around since
1987, the year before China passed
its first law for private enterprises.
That represents an almost complete
replacement of the corporate sector.
10 March 2016 21:45
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http://research.gavekal.com/content.php/9328-DG-An-Exit-Strategy-For-China%E2%80%99s-SOEs-by-Andrew-Batson
http://research.gavekal.com/content.php/9328-DG-An-Exit-Strategy-For-China%E2%80%99s-SOEs-by-Andrew-Batson
10 March 2016 21:30
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Reports for GavekalDragnomics, China Policy Watch Series
(龙洲经讯报告,中国政策观察系列)
"Wanted: More Creative Destruction," February 10, 2014. (PDF) http://csis.org/images/stories/china/Kennedy/140210_Destruction.pdf
"Multinationals in China: Take The Pain, Wait For The Gain," November 8, 2013. (PDF)
"Industrial Consolidation: Trimming The Long Tail," August 6, 2013. (PDF)
“Government Restructuring: Reform Sails Against The Wind,” May 2, 2013. (PDF)
“Business Confidence: The Challenge of Great Expectations,” February 28, 2013. (PDF)
“Mergers & Acquisitions: Moving Up the Food Chain,” December 7, 2012. (PDF)
“World Trade Rules: Playing To The Whistle,” September 26, 2012. (PDF)
“Leadership Transition: The Chance for Change,” June 25, 2012. (PDF)
“Pink Capitalists in Bloom,” April 25, 2012. (PDF)
“Indigenous Innovation: Techno-Nationalist Retreat?” March 2, 2012. (PDF)
“Rare Earths: Rocky Road for China Inc(oherent),” January 12, 2012. (PDF)
(龙洲经讯报告,中国政策观察系列)
"Wanted: More Creative Destruction," February 10, 2014. (PDF) http://csis.org/images/stories/china/Kennedy/140210_Destruction.pdf
"Multinationals in China: Take The Pain, Wait For The Gain," November 8, 2013. (PDF)
"Industrial Consolidation: Trimming The Long Tail," August 6, 2013. (PDF)
“Government Restructuring: Reform Sails Against The Wind,” May 2, 2013. (PDF)
“Business Confidence: The Challenge of Great Expectations,” February 28, 2013. (PDF)
“Mergers & Acquisitions: Moving Up the Food Chain,” December 7, 2012. (PDF)
“World Trade Rules: Playing To The Whistle,” September 26, 2012. (PDF)
“Leadership Transition: The Chance for Change,” June 25, 2012. (PDF)
“Pink Capitalists in Bloom,” April 25, 2012. (PDF)
“Indigenous Innovation: Techno-Nationalist Retreat?” March 2, 2012. (PDF)
“Rare Earths: Rocky Road for China Inc(oherent),” January 12, 2012. (PDF)
10 March 2016 21:28
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Articles and Reports (学术文章和报告)
“The United States, China, and Global Governance: A New Agenda for a New Era,” IU Research Center for Chinese Politics & Business and the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences Institute for World Economics & Politics, Bloomington, Indiana, April 2013 (with He Fan). (PDF)
“Factor Analysis of Industry Association Lobbying and Influence” (行业协会的游说行为及其影响因素分析), Comparative Economic & Social Systems (经济社会体制比较), No. 162 (July 2012), pp. 147-156 (with Deng Guosheng). (PDF)
“The Myth of the Beijing Consensus,” Journal of Contemporary China, Vol. 19,No.65 (June 2010), pp. 461-477. (PDF)
“Big Business and Industry Association Lobbying in China: The Paradox of Contrasting Styles,” China Journal, No. 63 (January 2010), pp. 101-125 (with Deng Guosheng). (PDF)
"Comparing Formal and Informal Lobbying Practices in China: The Capital's Ambivalent Embrace of Capitalists," China Information, vol. 23, no. 2 (July 2009), pp. 195-222). (PDF)
"Standards, Stakeholders, and Innovation: China's Evolving Role in the Global Knowledge Economy," NBR Special Report, no. 15 (September 2008) (English PDF,Chinese PDF) © National Bureau of Asian Research (with Richard P. Suttmeier and Jun Su).
"China's Emerging Credit Rating Industry: The Official Foundations of Private Authority," The China Quarterly, no. 193 (March 2008), pp. 65-83. (PDF) © The China Quarterly.
"Transnational Political Alliances: An Exploration with Evidence from China," Business & Society, Vol. 46, No. 2 (June 2007), pp. 174-200. (PDF).
"The Political Economy of Standards Coalitions: Explaining China's Involvement in High-Tech Standards Wars," Asia Policy, no. 2 (July 2006), pp. 41-62. (PDF)
"China's Porous Protectionism: The Changing Political Economy of Trade Policy," Political Science Quarterly, vol. 120, no. 3 (Fall 2005), pp. 407-432. (PDF)
"Divining China's Future," World Policy Journal, vol. 21, no. 4 (Winter 2004/05), pp. 77-85. (PDF)
"The Price of Competition: Pricing Policies and the Struggle to Define China's Economic System," China Journal, no. 49 (January 2003), pp. 1-30. (PDF)
"The Stone Group: State Client or Market Pathbreaker?," The China Quarterly, no. 152 (December 1997), pp. 746-777. (PDF)
"Comrade's Dilemma: Corruption and Growth in Transition Economies," Problems of Post-Communism, vol. 44, no. 2 (March-April 1997), pp. 28-36. (PDF)
"Time to Shift Gears on China Policy," Journal of East Asian Affairs, vol. 10, no. 1 (Winter/Spring 1996), pp. 45-73 (with Michael O'Hanlon). (PDF)
“The United States, China, and Global Governance: A New Agenda for a New Era,” IU Research Center for Chinese Politics & Business and the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences Institute for World Economics & Politics, Bloomington, Indiana, April 2013 (with He Fan). (PDF)
“Factor Analysis of Industry Association Lobbying and Influence” (行业协会的游说行为及其影响因素分析), Comparative Economic & Social Systems (经济社会体制比较), No. 162 (July 2012), pp. 147-156 (with Deng Guosheng). (PDF)
“The Myth of the Beijing Consensus,” Journal of Contemporary China, Vol. 19,No.65 (June 2010), pp. 461-477. (PDF)
“Big Business and Industry Association Lobbying in China: The Paradox of Contrasting Styles,” China Journal, No. 63 (January 2010), pp. 101-125 (with Deng Guosheng). (PDF)
"Comparing Formal and Informal Lobbying Practices in China: The Capital's Ambivalent Embrace of Capitalists," China Information, vol. 23, no. 2 (July 2009), pp. 195-222). (PDF)
"Standards, Stakeholders, and Innovation: China's Evolving Role in the Global Knowledge Economy," NBR Special Report, no. 15 (September 2008) (English PDF,Chinese PDF) © National Bureau of Asian Research (with Richard P. Suttmeier and Jun Su).
"China's Emerging Credit Rating Industry: The Official Foundations of Private Authority," The China Quarterly, no. 193 (March 2008), pp. 65-83. (PDF) © The China Quarterly.
"Transnational Political Alliances: An Exploration with Evidence from China," Business & Society, Vol. 46, No. 2 (June 2007), pp. 174-200. (PDF).
"The Political Economy of Standards Coalitions: Explaining China's Involvement in High-Tech Standards Wars," Asia Policy, no. 2 (July 2006), pp. 41-62. (PDF)
"China's Porous Protectionism: The Changing Political Economy of Trade Policy," Political Science Quarterly, vol. 120, no. 3 (Fall 2005), pp. 407-432. (PDF)
"Divining China's Future," World Policy Journal, vol. 21, no. 4 (Winter 2004/05), pp. 77-85. (PDF)
"The Price of Competition: Pricing Policies and the Struggle to Define China's Economic System," China Journal, no. 49 (January 2003), pp. 1-30. (PDF)
"The Stone Group: State Client or Market Pathbreaker?," The China Quarterly, no. 152 (December 1997), pp. 746-777. (PDF)
"Comrade's Dilemma: Corruption and Growth in Transition Economies," Problems of Post-Communism, vol. 44, no. 2 (March-April 1997), pp. 28-36. (PDF)
"Time to Shift Gears on China Policy," Journal of East Asian Affairs, vol. 10, no. 1 (Winter/Spring 1996), pp. 45-73 (with Michael O'Hanlon). (PDF)
10 March 2016 21:27
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Books (书籍)
From Rule Takers to Rule Makers: The Growing Role of Chinese in Global Governance (2012)
Beyond the Middle Kingdom: Comparative Perspectives on China's Capitalist Transformation (Stanford University Press, 2011)
The Business of Lobbying in China (Harvard University Press, 2005, 2008)
China Cross Talk: The American Debate Over China Policy Since Normalization, A Reader (Rowman & Littlefield, 2003)
http://csis.org/images/stories/china/Kennedy/120915_Chinese_Rule_Makers.pdf
http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=17768
http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674027442
https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=Tjx-W_ER1OEC
From Rule Takers to Rule Makers: The Growing Role of Chinese in Global Governance (2012)
Beyond the Middle Kingdom: Comparative Perspectives on China's Capitalist Transformation (Stanford University Press, 2011)
The Business of Lobbying in China (Harvard University Press, 2005, 2008)
China Cross Talk: The American Debate Over China Policy Since Normalization, A Reader (Rowman & Littlefield, 2003)
http://csis.org/images/stories/china/Kennedy/120915_Chinese_Rule_Makers.pdf
http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=17768
http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674027442
https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=Tjx-W_ER1OEC
10 March 2016 21:27
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Congressional Testimony (国会证词)
Testimony before the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, Subcommittee on Asia and Pacific, on "Reviewing President Xi's State Visit." Washington, DC. October 7, 2015. (PDF)
Testimony before the U.S.—China Economic and Security Review Commission, on "Foreign Investment Climate in China: Present Challenges and Potential for Reform," Washington, DC. January 28, 2015, (PDF) Congressional Testimony
Testimony before the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission, for hearing, "The Extent of Government's Control of China's Economy, and Implications for the United States," Dirken Senate Office Building, Washington, DC, May 24, 2007. (PDF)
http://csis.org/images/stories/china/Kennedy/070524_USCC_Kennedy.pdf
Testimony before the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, Subcommittee on Asia and Pacific, on "Reviewing President Xi's State Visit." Washington, DC. October 7, 2015. (PDF)
Testimony before the U.S.—China Economic and Security Review Commission, on "Foreign Investment Climate in China: Present Challenges and Potential for Reform," Washington, DC. January 28, 2015, (PDF) Congressional Testimony
Testimony before the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission, for hearing, "The Extent of Government's Control of China's Economy, and Implications for the United States," Dirken Senate Office Building, Washington, DC, May 24, 2007. (PDF)
http://csis.org/images/stories/china/Kennedy/070524_USCC_Kennedy.pdf
10 March 2016 21:25
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Commentary (评论)
“Stop China's Market Manipulations,” New York Times, January 18, 2016.
“China in 2016: A ChinaFile Conversation,” ChinaFile, December 23, 2015 (with Andrew J. Nathan, Bethany Allen-Ebrahimian, Taisu Zhang, and Jerome A. Cohen).
“The Part of IMF's Yuan Announcement No One Saw Coming,” Bloomberg Brief, December 2, 2015.
“Let China Join the Global Monetary Elite,” Foreign Policy Magazine, August 20, 2015.
“China’s Un-Separation of Powers: The Blurred Lines of Party and Government,” Foreign Affairs, July 24, 2015 (with Christopher K. Johnson).
“Op-Ed: China’s Stock Market Heresy,” LA Times, July 14, 2015.
“Washington’s Big China Srew-Up,” Foreign Policy Magazine, March 26, 2015 (with Stephen S. Roach, Zha Daojiong, and Patrick Chovanec).
“China's Shift Toward Real Reform,” Wall Street Journal, November 19, 2013, p. 13. ( PDF)
“China's Third Plenum Communique Moves from Nouns to Adjectives,” East Asia Forum, Australian National University (www.eastasiaforum.org), November 18, 2013.( PDF)
“The New Xi Jinping-Li Keqiang Government: Is the Hype Deserved?” GaveKal Dragonomics China Seminars Shanghai, April 24, 2013; and Beijing, April 25, 2013. (PDF)
“From China to Chinese: Expanding Non-State Actors in Global Governance,” Bridges China Dialogue 2012, International Centre for Trade and Sustainable Development, RCCPB, and Friedrich Ebert Stiftung, Geneva, Swizterland, September 27, 2012. (PDF)
“An Inalienable Scholar” (异化不了的学者) in Xiong Jingming and Xu Xiao, eds., Historian Gao Hua (史家高华), (Hong Kong: Hong Kong Chinese University Press, 2012), pp. 270-273. (PDF)
“Beijing Can’t Outgrow Corruption,” Wall Street Journal, May 10, 2012. (PDF)
“Good Leap Forward,” Foreign Policy Magazine, March 10, 2011 (with Wang Qun).
"Bush China Policy a Successful Balancing Act," China Briefing, International Affairs Forum, August 5, 2008. (PDF)
“Barbarians Lobbying at the Gate,” Financial Times, September 28, 2005, p. 9 (reprinted YaleGlobal Online, October 5, 2005). (PDF)
“What International Track?” IU East Asian Studies Center Newsletter, April 2004. (PDF)
“Hu Won't Change China,” Asian Wall Street Journal, November 6, 2002, p. A11. (PDF)
“Stop China's Market Manipulations,” New York Times, January 18, 2016.
“China in 2016: A ChinaFile Conversation,” ChinaFile, December 23, 2015 (with Andrew J. Nathan, Bethany Allen-Ebrahimian, Taisu Zhang, and Jerome A. Cohen).
“The Part of IMF's Yuan Announcement No One Saw Coming,” Bloomberg Brief, December 2, 2015.
“Let China Join the Global Monetary Elite,” Foreign Policy Magazine, August 20, 2015.
“China’s Un-Separation of Powers: The Blurred Lines of Party and Government,” Foreign Affairs, July 24, 2015 (with Christopher K. Johnson).
“Op-Ed: China’s Stock Market Heresy,” LA Times, July 14, 2015.
“Washington’s Big China Srew-Up,” Foreign Policy Magazine, March 26, 2015 (with Stephen S. Roach, Zha Daojiong, and Patrick Chovanec).
“China's Shift Toward Real Reform,” Wall Street Journal, November 19, 2013, p. 13. ( PDF)
“China's Third Plenum Communique Moves from Nouns to Adjectives,” East Asia Forum, Australian National University (www.eastasiaforum.org), November 18, 2013.( PDF)
“The New Xi Jinping-Li Keqiang Government: Is the Hype Deserved?” GaveKal Dragonomics China Seminars Shanghai, April 24, 2013; and Beijing, April 25, 2013. (PDF)
“From China to Chinese: Expanding Non-State Actors in Global Governance,” Bridges China Dialogue 2012, International Centre for Trade and Sustainable Development, RCCPB, and Friedrich Ebert Stiftung, Geneva, Swizterland, September 27, 2012. (PDF)
“An Inalienable Scholar” (异化不了的学者) in Xiong Jingming and Xu Xiao, eds., Historian Gao Hua (史家高华), (Hong Kong: Hong Kong Chinese University Press, 2012), pp. 270-273. (PDF)
“Beijing Can’t Outgrow Corruption,” Wall Street Journal, May 10, 2012. (PDF)
“Good Leap Forward,” Foreign Policy Magazine, March 10, 2011 (with Wang Qun).
"Bush China Policy a Successful Balancing Act," China Briefing, International Affairs Forum, August 5, 2008. (PDF)
“Barbarians Lobbying at the Gate,” Financial Times, September 28, 2005, p. 9 (reprinted YaleGlobal Online, October 5, 2005). (PDF)
“What International Track?” IU East Asian Studies Center Newsletter, April 2004. (PDF)
“Hu Won't Change China,” Asian Wall Street Journal, November 6, 2002, p. A11. (PDF)
http://www.eastasiaforum.org/
10 March 2016 21:25
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Great writeups also for that Kennedy
CSIS Publications (CSIS 刊物)
State and Market in Contemporary China: Toward the 13th Five-Year Plan , CSIS Report, March 2, 2016 (Editor, Scott Kennedy; contributors: Chen Ling, Nicholas Consonery, David Hathaway, Jesse Heatley, Jamie Horsley, Roselyn Hsueh, David Kelly, Arthur Kroeber, Dan Markus, Peter Martin, Oliver Melton, Margaret Pearson, Claire Reade, Daniel Rosen, D.D. Wu, Yan Chunlin)
Not Your Average Zhou: China's Central Bank Governor Finally Speaks, CSIS Critical Questions, Feb 16, 2016.
The RMB joins the SDR: Historic Inch-stone in Global Financial System, CSIS Critical Questions, November 30, 2015.
Economic Consequences of China's Slowdown, CSIS Report, November 16, 2015.
China's Fifth Plenum Yields More Questions than Answers, CSIS Critical Questions, November 2, 2015 (with Christopher K. Johnson).
Xi’s Seattle Stop Sets Up His D.C. Drop In, CSIS Commentary, Sep 23, 2015.
Making Sense of the Market Turmoil, CSIS Critical Questions, August 25, 2015 (with Matthew P. Goodman).
The RMB Announcement: A Stimulating Reform, CSIS Critical Questions, August 11, 2015.
Crisis Averted in China’s Stock Market for Now, CSIS Commentary, July 6, 2015.
Made in China 2025, CSIS Critical Questions, June 1, 2015.
Building China's "One Belt, One Road", CSIS Critical Questions, April 3, 2015 (with David A. Parker).
Thoughts from the Chairman: How to Pragmatically Respond to Greater Chinese Activism on the Global Stage, (PDF), CSIS Newsletter, February 13, 2015.
Bears in a China Shop: AmCham China's Latest Survey Shows Growing Worries, CSIS Commentary, February 10, 2015.
CSIS Publications (CSIS 刊物)
State and Market in Contemporary China: Toward the 13th Five-Year Plan , CSIS Report, March 2, 2016 (Editor, Scott Kennedy; contributors: Chen Ling, Nicholas Consonery, David Hathaway, Jesse Heatley, Jamie Horsley, Roselyn Hsueh, David Kelly, Arthur Kroeber, Dan Markus, Peter Martin, Oliver Melton, Margaret Pearson, Claire Reade, Daniel Rosen, D.D. Wu, Yan Chunlin)
Not Your Average Zhou: China's Central Bank Governor Finally Speaks, CSIS Critical Questions, Feb 16, 2016.
The RMB joins the SDR: Historic Inch-stone in Global Financial System, CSIS Critical Questions, November 30, 2015.
Economic Consequences of China's Slowdown, CSIS Report, November 16, 2015.
China's Fifth Plenum Yields More Questions than Answers, CSIS Critical Questions, November 2, 2015 (with Christopher K. Johnson).
Xi’s Seattle Stop Sets Up His D.C. Drop In, CSIS Commentary, Sep 23, 2015.
Making Sense of the Market Turmoil, CSIS Critical Questions, August 25, 2015 (with Matthew P. Goodman).
The RMB Announcement: A Stimulating Reform, CSIS Critical Questions, August 11, 2015.
Crisis Averted in China’s Stock Market for Now, CSIS Commentary, July 6, 2015.
Made in China 2025, CSIS Critical Questions, June 1, 2015.
Building China's "One Belt, One Road", CSIS Critical Questions, April 3, 2015 (with David A. Parker).
Thoughts from the Chairman: How to Pragmatically Respond to Greater Chinese Activism on the Global Stage, (PDF), CSIS Newsletter, February 13, 2015.
Bears in a China Shop: AmCham China's Latest Survey Shows Growing Worries, CSIS Commentary, February 10, 2015.
10 March 2016 21:24
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http://csis.org/expert/scott-kennedy
Scott Kennedy
Deputy Director, Freeman Chair in China Studies, and Director, Project on Chinese Business and Political Economy
Programs:
Freeman Chair in China Studies, Project on Chinese Business and Political Economy
Topics:
International Development, Technology and Cybersecurity, Trade and Economics, Governance and Rule of Law, US Development Policy
Regions:
Asia, China
Scott Kennedy is deputy director of the Freeman Chair in China Studies and director of the Project on Chinese Business and Political Economy at CSIS. A leading authority on China’s economic policy and its global economic relations, specific areas of focus include industrial policy, business lobbying, multinational business challenges in China, Chinese participation in global economic regimes, and philanthropy. Kennedy has been traveling to China for over a quarter century, and he has conducted thousands of interviews across the country with Chinese officials, businesses, lawyers, non-profit organizations, and scholars. His writings have appeared in a wide array of policy, popular, and academic venues. He is the author of The Business of Lobbying in China (Harvard University Press, 2005) and the editor of three books, including Beyond the Middle Kingdom: Comparative Perspectives on China’s Capitalist Transformation (Stanford University Press, 2011), and The Dragon's Learning Curve: Global Governance and China (Routledge, forthcoming).
For over 14 years, Kennedy was a professor at Indiana University (IU). From 2007 to 2014, he was the director of the Research Center for Chinese Politics & Business, and he was the founding academic director of IU’s China Office. From 1993 to 1997, he worked at the Brookings Institution. Kennedy received his Ph.D. in political science from George Washington University and his M.A. in China studies from Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies. Follow him on twitter @KennedyCSIS.
Scott Kennedy
Deputy Director, Freeman Chair in China Studies, and Director, Project on Chinese Business and Political Economy
Programs:
Freeman Chair in China Studies, Project on Chinese Business and Political Economy
Topics:
International Development, Technology and Cybersecurity, Trade and Economics, Governance and Rule of Law, US Development Policy
Regions:
Asia, China
Scott Kennedy is deputy director of the Freeman Chair in China Studies and director of the Project on Chinese Business and Political Economy at CSIS. A leading authority on China’s economic policy and its global economic relations, specific areas of focus include industrial policy, business lobbying, multinational business challenges in China, Chinese participation in global economic regimes, and philanthropy. Kennedy has been traveling to China for over a quarter century, and he has conducted thousands of interviews across the country with Chinese officials, businesses, lawyers, non-profit organizations, and scholars. His writings have appeared in a wide array of policy, popular, and academic venues. He is the author of The Business of Lobbying in China (Harvard University Press, 2005) and the editor of three books, including Beyond the Middle Kingdom: Comparative Perspectives on China’s Capitalist Transformation (Stanford University Press, 2011), and The Dragon's Learning Curve: Global Governance and China (Routledge, forthcoming).
For over 14 years, Kennedy was a professor at Indiana University (IU). From 2007 to 2014, he was the director of the Research Center for Chinese Politics & Business, and he was the founding academic director of IU’s China Office. From 1993 to 1997, he worked at the Brookings Institution. Kennedy received his Ph.D. in political science from George Washington University and his M.A. in China studies from Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies. Follow him on twitter @KennedyCSIS.
http://csis.org/expert/scott-kennedy
10 March 2016 21:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://csis.org/event/china-reality-check-chinas-internet-sovereignty-initiative-origins-and-consequences
http://c25cf2c75f34cb4dce5a-d7352e53a1a2c00697c3589065a70314.r92.cf2.rackcdn.com/160229_chinareality_0.mp3
Please join us for a discussion on China’s initiative to promote Internet sovereignty as a key governing concept of the global Internet. China has stepped up its efforts over the past year, most recently during the World Internet Conference in Wuzhen. If successful, this initiative could have wide consequences for not only the Internet, but also for a wide range of industries, the media, and information accessibility.
Featuring:
James A. Lewis
Director of the Strategic Technologies Program, CSIS
Xiao Qiang
Adjunct Professor, School of Information, UC Berkeley
Founder and Editor-in-Chief, China Digital Times
Amy Chang
Staff Director, Subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific,
Committee on Foreign Affairs, U.S. House of Representatives
John Lenhart
Director of Global Policy,
Information Technology Industry Council
Moderated by:
Scott Kennedy
Deputy Director of the Freeman Chair in China Studies
and Director of the Project on Chinese Business and Political Economy, CSIS
Programs
China Reality Check Series, Freeman Chair in China Studies
Topics
Technology and Cybersecurity, Technology and Innovation
Regions
China
http://c25cf2c75f34cb4dce5a-d7352e53a1a2c00697c3589065a70314.r92.cf2.rackcdn.com/160229_chinareality_0.mp3
Please join us for a discussion on China’s initiative to promote Internet sovereignty as a key governing concept of the global Internet. China has stepped up its efforts over the past year, most recently during the World Internet Conference in Wuzhen. If successful, this initiative could have wide consequences for not only the Internet, but also for a wide range of industries, the media, and information accessibility.
Featuring:
James A. Lewis
Director of the Strategic Technologies Program, CSIS
Xiao Qiang
Adjunct Professor, School of Information, UC Berkeley
Founder and Editor-in-Chief, China Digital Times
Amy Chang
Staff Director, Subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific,
Committee on Foreign Affairs, U.S. House of Representatives
John Lenhart
Director of Global Policy,
Information Technology Industry Council
Moderated by:
Scott Kennedy
Deputy Director of the Freeman Chair in China Studies
and Director of the Project on Chinese Business and Political Economy, CSIS
Programs
China Reality Check Series, Freeman Chair in China Studies
Topics
Technology and Cybersecurity, Technology and Innovation
Regions
China
http://csis.org/event/china-reality-check-chinas-internet-sovereignty-initiative-origins-and-consequences
10 March 2016 21:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
. http://csis.org/multimedia/audio-leveraging-internet-things-more-efficient-and-effective-military-closing-keynote
http://1978b826afb0ce0277d8-37e06d43cca40bced37b678465a2d522.r74.cf2.rackcdn.com/151110_stp_leveraginginternet_cut3.mp3
The CSIS Strategic Technologies Program is hosting a launch event for their September report, “Leveraging the Internet of Things for a More Efficient and Effective Military.” The Internet of Things (IoT) is transforming the way organizations communicate, collaborate, and coordinate everyday business and industrial processes. While the Department of Defense (DoD) pioneered many of the core technologies that serve as the foundation of IoT, today the U.S. military is struggling to keep pace with commercial IoT development.
In the report, Denise E. Zheng and William A. Carter of CSIS examine how the military can better leverage internet of things (IoT) technologies to deliver new capabilities and cost savings. On Tuesday, November 10 experts will discuss the report and its recommendations, and participate in a question and answer session about DoD’s efforts to adopt IoT technologies which are becoming increasingly central to enhancing combat effectiveness.
Closing keynote:
Richard Hale
Deputy Chief Information Officer for Cybersecurity, U.S. Department of Defense
Programs
Strategic Technologies Program
Topics
Defense and Security, Geopolitics and International Security, Defense Industry, Acquisition, and Innovation, Defense Strategy and Capabilities, Counterterrorism and Homeland Security, Cybersecurity
Regions
North America
http://1978b826afb0ce0277d8-37e06d43cca40bced37b678465a2d522.r74.cf2.rackcdn.com/151110_stp_leveraginginternet_cut3.mp3
The CSIS Strategic Technologies Program is hosting a launch event for their September report, “Leveraging the Internet of Things for a More Efficient and Effective Military.” The Internet of Things (IoT) is transforming the way organizations communicate, collaborate, and coordinate everyday business and industrial processes. While the Department of Defense (DoD) pioneered many of the core technologies that serve as the foundation of IoT, today the U.S. military is struggling to keep pace with commercial IoT development.
In the report, Denise E. Zheng and William A. Carter of CSIS examine how the military can better leverage internet of things (IoT) technologies to deliver new capabilities and cost savings. On Tuesday, November 10 experts will discuss the report and its recommendations, and participate in a question and answer session about DoD’s efforts to adopt IoT technologies which are becoming increasingly central to enhancing combat effectiveness.
Closing keynote:
Richard Hale
Deputy Chief Information Officer for Cybersecurity, U.S. Department of Defense
Programs
Strategic Technologies Program
Topics
Defense and Security, Geopolitics and International Security, Defense Industry, Acquisition, and Innovation, Defense Strategy and Capabilities, Counterterrorism and Homeland Security, Cybersecurity
Regions
North America
http://csis.org/multimedia/audio-leveraging-internet-things-more-efficient-and-effective-military-closing-keynote
10 March 2016 21:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
. Hmm.. really.. looked in to google feelings lately?
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2016/02/23/has-encryption-gone-too-far/a-lack-of-cooperation-between-tech-giants-and-the-us-on-encryption-makes-us-less-secure
"Could compliance with court orders lead to China and Russia demanding greater access to data? Maybe, but these countries don't need to wait to require concessions of technology companies in exchange for market access. According to reports, some U.S. tech companies are already complying with ominously vague security checks required by the Chinese government for products they sell in China.
Oppressive governments will never back down on domestic surveillance, but it’s the responsibility of companies who want to do business in countries with limited freedoms to figure out how to protect their customers there. This shouldn’t dictate how we investigate crimes against Americans.
Instead, the U.S. government and American technology companies can and should set an example for the world by partnering to establish a system that, based on a transparent lawful process, provides government access to critical information and strikes a reasonable balance between public safety, privacy and civil liberties."
or Estonia
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2016/02/23/has-encryption-gone-too-far/a-lack-of-cooperation-between-tech-giants-and-the-us-on-encryption-makes-us-less-secure
"Could compliance with court orders lead to China and Russia demanding greater access to data? Maybe, but these countries don't need to wait to require concessions of technology companies in exchange for market access. According to reports, some U.S. tech companies are already complying with ominously vague security checks required by the Chinese government for products they sell in China.
Oppressive governments will never back down on domestic surveillance, but it’s the responsibility of companies who want to do business in countries with limited freedoms to figure out how to protect their customers there. This shouldn’t dictate how we investigate crimes against Americans.
Instead, the U.S. government and American technology companies can and should set an example for the world by partnering to establish a system that, based on a transparent lawful process, provides government access to critical information and strikes a reasonable balance between public safety, privacy and civil liberties."
or Estonia
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2016/02/23/has-encryption-gone-too-far/a-lack-of-cooperation-between-tech-giants-and-the-us-on-encryption-makes-us-less-secure
10 March 2016 21:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://csis.org/publication/bridging-digital-divide
http://csis.org/files/publication/150929_Zheng_BridgingDigitalDivide.pdf
Challenges and Lessons Learned for ICT4D
Bridging the Digital Divide
By Denise E. Zheng, Conor M. Savoy
Sep 30, 2015
In July 2015, CSIS hosted a workshop to discuss existing information and communication technology for development (ICT4D) initiatives and strategies driven by development agencies and private companies to identify what they are doing wrong and how they can be improved. The workshop drew out the experience of the private sector and the challenges it has faced in scaling up technology adoption in developing countries. In particular, the group focused on how to improve the enabling environment for adoption. Participants included key stakeholders from the public and private sectors, including private information and communication technology (ICT) companies, donor agencies, nongovernmental organizations, and development implementers that have a proven track record investing in ICT4D. This report provides a summary of the key findings.
Publisher CSIS
Programs
Strategic Technologies Program, Technology and Innovation
Topics
International Development, Technology and Cybersecurity, Trade and Economics, Private Sector Development, Technology and Innovation
http://csis.org/files/publication/150929_Zheng_BridgingDigitalDivide.pdf
Challenges and Lessons Learned for ICT4D
Bridging the Digital Divide
By Denise E. Zheng, Conor M. Savoy
Sep 30, 2015
In July 2015, CSIS hosted a workshop to discuss existing information and communication technology for development (ICT4D) initiatives and strategies driven by development agencies and private companies to identify what they are doing wrong and how they can be improved. The workshop drew out the experience of the private sector and the challenges it has faced in scaling up technology adoption in developing countries. In particular, the group focused on how to improve the enabling environment for adoption. Participants included key stakeholders from the public and private sectors, including private information and communication technology (ICT) companies, donor agencies, nongovernmental organizations, and development implementers that have a proven track record investing in ICT4D. This report provides a summary of the key findings.
Publisher CSIS
Programs
Strategic Technologies Program, Technology and Innovation
Topics
International Development, Technology and Cybersecurity, Trade and Economics, Private Sector Development, Technology and Innovation
http://csis.org/publication/bridging-digital-divide
10 March 2016 21:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://csis.org/expert/jennifer-g-cooke / just for extra /
Jennifer G. Cooke
Director, Africa Program
Programs:
Africa and Global Health, Africa Policy after President Bush, Africa Program, AFRICOM, China in Africa, HIV/AIDS Task Force, Political and Security Trends in East Africa, Rising U.S. Energy Interests
Topics:
International Development, Global Health, Trade and Economics, Governance and Rule of Law
Regions:
Africa, North Africa, Sub-Saharan Africa
Jennifer Cooke is director of the CSIS Africa Program, where she manages a range of projects on political, economic, and security dynamics in Africa, providing research and analysis to U.S. policymakers, members of Congress, and the U.S. military, as well as the broader public. She is a frequent writer and lecturer on U.S.-Africa policy, on political and economic trends across the continent, and on emergent security threats. She recently led the CSIS Nigeria Election Forum, a two-year project examining the major challenges associated with Nigeria’s 2015 elections; cochaired a CSIS project on Africa’s new oil and gas producers; and directed a multiyear study on the intersection of religion and politics in Africa.
Cooke has authored or coauthored numerous CSIS reports, including most recently Rethinking Engagement in Fragile States (June 2015); Africa’s New Energy Producers: Making the Most of Emergent Opportunities (January 2015); Africa at a Crossroads: Overcoming Obstacles to Sustained Growth and Economic Transformation (May 2014), and Launching a New Chapter in U.S.-Africa Relations: Deepening the Business Relationship (February 2014). With J. Stephen Morrison, she is coeditor of U.S. Africa Policy beyond the Bush Years (CSIS, 2009) and Africa Policy in the Clinton Years (CSIS, 2001). She is a frequent commentator in print, on radio, and on television, and she has testified before Congress on Boko Haram in Nigeria, the political crisis in Côte d’Ivoire, and the African Union. Prior to CSIS, she worked at the National Academy of Sciences in the Office of Human Rights and the Office of News and Public Information and in the U.S. Congress on the House Subcommittee on Africa. She holds an M.A. in African studies and international economics from the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) and a B.A. in government, magna cum laude, from Harvard University. She has lived in Côte d’Ivoire and the Central African Republic
Jennifer G. Cooke
Director, Africa Program
Programs:
Africa and Global Health, Africa Policy after President Bush, Africa Program, AFRICOM, China in Africa, HIV/AIDS Task Force, Political and Security Trends in East Africa, Rising U.S. Energy Interests
Topics:
International Development, Global Health, Trade and Economics, Governance and Rule of Law
Regions:
Africa, North Africa, Sub-Saharan Africa
Jennifer Cooke is director of the CSIS Africa Program, where she manages a range of projects on political, economic, and security dynamics in Africa, providing research and analysis to U.S. policymakers, members of Congress, and the U.S. military, as well as the broader public. She is a frequent writer and lecturer on U.S.-Africa policy, on political and economic trends across the continent, and on emergent security threats. She recently led the CSIS Nigeria Election Forum, a two-year project examining the major challenges associated with Nigeria’s 2015 elections; cochaired a CSIS project on Africa’s new oil and gas producers; and directed a multiyear study on the intersection of religion and politics in Africa.
Cooke has authored or coauthored numerous CSIS reports, including most recently Rethinking Engagement in Fragile States (June 2015); Africa’s New Energy Producers: Making the Most of Emergent Opportunities (January 2015); Africa at a Crossroads: Overcoming Obstacles to Sustained Growth and Economic Transformation (May 2014), and Launching a New Chapter in U.S.-Africa Relations: Deepening the Business Relationship (February 2014). With J. Stephen Morrison, she is coeditor of U.S. Africa Policy beyond the Bush Years (CSIS, 2009) and Africa Policy in the Clinton Years (CSIS, 2001). She is a frequent commentator in print, on radio, and on television, and she has testified before Congress on Boko Haram in Nigeria, the political crisis in Côte d’Ivoire, and the African Union. Prior to CSIS, she worked at the National Academy of Sciences in the Office of Human Rights and the Office of News and Public Information and in the U.S. Congress on the House Subcommittee on Africa. She holds an M.A. in African studies and international economics from the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) and a B.A. in government, magna cum laude, from Harvard University. She has lived in Côte d’Ivoire and the Central African Republic
http://csis.org/expert/jennifer-g-cooke
10 March 2016 21:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://csis.org/testimony/boko-haram-islamist-insurgency-west-africa
http://csis.org/files/attachments/ts160224_Cooke.pdf
CSIS expert Jennifer Cooke testified before the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Terrorism, Nonproliferation, and Trade on “Boko Haram: The Islamist Insurgency in West Africa.”
Programs:
Africa Program, Congressional Relations at CSIS
Topics:
Defense and Security, Geopolitics and International Security, Defense Strategy and Capabilities, Counterterrorism and Homeland Security
Regions:
Aid for Africa
http://csis.org/files/attachments/ts160224_Cooke.pdf
CSIS expert Jennifer Cooke testified before the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Terrorism, Nonproliferation, and Trade on “Boko Haram: The Islamist Insurgency in West Africa.”
Programs:
Africa Program, Congressional Relations at CSIS
Topics:
Defense and Security, Geopolitics and International Security, Defense Strategy and Capabilities, Counterterrorism and Homeland Security
Regions:
Aid for Africa
http://csis.org/testimony/boko-haram-islamist-insurgency-west-africa
10 March 2016 21:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
. http://csis.org/testimony/department-defense-security-cooperation-and-assistance-programs-and-authorities
http://csis.org/files/attachments/ts160309_Dalton.pdf
Melissa Dalton, fellow and chief of staff of the CSIS International Security Program, testifies before the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities on “Department of Defense Security Cooperation and Assistance Programs and Authorities.”
Programs:
Congressional Relations at CSIS, International Security Program
Topics:
Defense and Security, Geopolitics and International Security, Defense Industry, Acquisition, and Innovation, Defense Strategy and Capabilities, Counterterrorism and Homeland Security
http://csis.org/files/attachments/ts160309_Dalton.pdf
Melissa Dalton, fellow and chief of staff of the CSIS International Security Program, testifies before the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities on “Department of Defense Security Cooperation and Assistance Programs and Authorities.”
Programs:
Congressional Relations at CSIS, International Security Program
Topics:
Defense and Security, Geopolitics and International Security, Defense Industry, Acquisition, and Innovation, Defense Strategy and Capabilities, Counterterrorism and Homeland Security
http://csis.org/testimony/department-defense-security-cooperation-and-assistance-programs-and-authorities
10 March 2016 21:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://csis.org/multimedia/podcast-statesmens-forum-right-honourable-theresa-may-mp-home-secretary-united-kingdom
http://csis.org/multimedia/podcast-statesmens-forum-right-honourable-theresa-may-mp-home-secretary-united-kingdom
10 March 2016 21:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kathleen H. Hicks
Senior Vice President; Henry A. Kissinger Chair; Director, International Security Program
Programs:
International Security Program
Topics:
Defense and Security, Geopolitics and International Security, Defense Industry, Acquisition, and Innovation, Defense Strategy and Capabilities, Counterterrorism and Homeland Security, Energy and Sustainability, Climate Change and Environmental Impacts, Technology and Cybersecurity, Cybersecurity
Kathleen Hicks is senior vice president, Henry A. Kissinger Chair, and director of the International Security Program at CSIS. She is a frequent writer and lecturer on U.S. foreign and security policy; defense strategy, forces, and budget; and strategic futures. From 2009 to 2013, Dr. Hicks served as a senior civilian official in the Department of Defense. Confirmed in 2012 as principal deputy under secretary of defense for policy, she was responsible for advising the secretary of defense on global and regional defense policy and strategy pertaining to such areas as the Asia-Pacific and Persian Gulf regions, Syria, and Europe. She also served as deputy under secretary of defense for strategy, plans, and forces, leading the development of the 2012 Defense Strategic Guidance and the 2010 Quadrennial Defense Review and crafting guidance for future force capabilities, overseas military posture, and contingency and theater campaign plans.
From 2006 to early 2009, Dr. Hicks served as a senior fellow at CSIS, leading a variety of research projects in the national security field. From 1993 to 2006, she was a career civil servant in the Office of the Secretary of Defense, serving in a variety of capacities and rising from Presidential Management Intern to the Senior Executive Service. Dr. Hicks received numerous recognitions for her service in the Department of Defense (DOD), including distinguished awards from three secretaries of defense and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. She also received the 2011 DOD Senior Professional Women’s Association Excellence in Leadership Award. She holds a Ph.D. in political science from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, an M.A. from the University of Maryland’s School of Public Affairs, and an A.B. magna cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa from Mount Holyoke College. Dr. Hicks is an adjunct with the RAND Corporation and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. She currently serves on the National Commission on the Future of the Army, the Board of Advisors for the Truman National Security Project, and the Board of Advisors for SoldierSocks, a
Senior Vice President; Henry A. Kissinger Chair; Director, International Security Program
Programs:
International Security Program
Topics:
Defense and Security, Geopolitics and International Security, Defense Industry, Acquisition, and Innovation, Defense Strategy and Capabilities, Counterterrorism and Homeland Security, Energy and Sustainability, Climate Change and Environmental Impacts, Technology and Cybersecurity, Cybersecurity
Kathleen Hicks is senior vice president, Henry A. Kissinger Chair, and director of the International Security Program at CSIS. She is a frequent writer and lecturer on U.S. foreign and security policy; defense strategy, forces, and budget; and strategic futures. From 2009 to 2013, Dr. Hicks served as a senior civilian official in the Department of Defense. Confirmed in 2012 as principal deputy under secretary of defense for policy, she was responsible for advising the secretary of defense on global and regional defense policy and strategy pertaining to such areas as the Asia-Pacific and Persian Gulf regions, Syria, and Europe. She also served as deputy under secretary of defense for strategy, plans, and forces, leading the development of the 2012 Defense Strategic Guidance and the 2010 Quadrennial Defense Review and crafting guidance for future force capabilities, overseas military posture, and contingency and theater campaign plans.
From 2006 to early 2009, Dr. Hicks served as a senior fellow at CSIS, leading a variety of research projects in the national security field. From 1993 to 2006, she was a career civil servant in the Office of the Secretary of Defense, serving in a variety of capacities and rising from Presidential Management Intern to the Senior Executive Service. Dr. Hicks received numerous recognitions for her service in the Department of Defense (DOD), including distinguished awards from three secretaries of defense and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. She also received the 2011 DOD Senior Professional Women’s Association Excellence in Leadership Award. She holds a Ph.D. in political science from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, an M.A. from the University of Maryland’s School of Public Affairs, and an A.B. magna cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa from Mount Holyoke College. Dr. Hicks is an adjunct with the RAND Corporation and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. She currently serves on the National Commission on the Future of the Army, the Board of Advisors for the Truman National Security Project, and the Board of Advisors for SoldierSocks, a
10 March 2016 21:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Okey, that actually more uplifting ending note
http://csis.org/event/smart-women-smart-power-global-insecurity-view-abroad-conversation-americas-ambassadors
Join the Smart Women, Smart Power Initiative for a panel discussion and question and answer session featuring 45 current and former U.S. ambassadors. They'll explore issues contributing to global insecurity, mass migration, refugees, war and conflict in regional hotspots, as well as tensions in the South China Sea. The participating ambassadors include:
Hon. Gina Abercrombie-Winstanley
Former U.S. Ambassador to Malta
Hon. Cynthia Akuetteh
U.S. Ambassador to Gabon
Hon. Pat Alsup
U.S. Ambassador to Gambia
Hon. Mari Aponte
Former U.S. Ambassador to El Salvador
Hon. Liliana Ayalde
U.S. Ambassador to Brazil
Hon. Erica J. Barks-Ruggles
U.S. Ambassador to Rwanda
Hon. Denise Bauer
U.S. Ambassador to Belgium
Hon. Colleen Bell
U.S. Ambassador to Hungary
Hon. Marcia Bernicat
U.S. Ambassador to Bangladesh
Hon. Piper Campbell
Former U.S. Ambassador to Mongolia
Hon. Judith Cefkin
U.S. Ambassador to Fiji
Hon. Maureen Cormack
U.S. Ambassador to Bosnia and Herzegovina
Hon. Laura Dogu
U.S. Ambassador to Nicaragua
Hon. Kathleen Doherty
U.S. Ambassador to Cyprus
Hon. Catherine Ebert-Grey
U.S. Ambassador to Papua New Guinea/Vanuatu/Soloman Islands
Hon. Julie Furuta-Toy
U.S. Ambassador to Equatorial Guinea
Hon. Jennifer Zimdahl Galt
U.S. Ambassador to Mongolia
Hon. Nina Hachigian
U.S. Ambassador to ASEAN
Hon. Pamela Hamamoto
Permanent Rep. of the U.S. to the U.N. and Other International Organizations in Geneva
Hon. Patricia Haslach
U.S. Ambassador to Ethiopia
Hon. G. Kathleen Hill
U.S. Ambassador to Malta
Hon. Amy Hyatt
U.S. Ambassador to Palau
Hon. Helen La Lime
U.S. Ambassador to Angola
Hon. Barbara Leaf
U.S. Ambassador to the UAE
Hon. Dawn Liberi
U.S. Ambassador to Burundi
Hon. Carmen Lomellin
Former U.S. Ambassador to the Organization of American States
Hon. Deb Malac
U.S. Ambassador to Uganda
Hon. Jean Manes
U.S. Ambassador to El Salvador
Hon. Deborah McCarthy
U.S. Ambassador to Lithuania
Hon. Crystal Nix-Hines
U.S. Ambassador to UNESCO
Hon. Virginia Palmer
U.S. Ambassador to Malawi
Hon. Lisa Peterson
U.S. Ambassador to Swaziland
Hon. Eunice Reddick
U.S. Ambassador to Niger
Hon. Marcie Ries
Former U.S. Ambassador to Bulgaria
Hon. Doria Rosen
U.S. Ambassador to Micronesia
Hon. Dana Smith
U.S. Ambassador to Qatar
Hon. Pamela Spratlen
U.S. Ambassador to Uzbekistan
Hon. Karen Stanton
U.S. Ambassador to Timor-Leste
Hon. Steph Sullivan
U.S. Ambassador to Republic of Congo (Brazzaville)
Hon. Linda Taglialatela
U.S. Ambassador to Barbados
Hon. Lucy Tamlyn
U.S. Ambassador to Benin
Hon. Margaret Uyehara
U.S. Ambassador to Montenegro
Hon. Shari Villarosa
U.S. Ambassador to Mauritius/Seychelles
Hon. Alice Wells
U.S. Ambassador to Jordan
Moderated by:
Nina Easton
Chair, Fortune Most Powerful Women International
Senior Associate, CSIS
Programs
Smart Women, Smart Power
Topics
Defense and Security, Geopolitics and International Security, Counterterrorism and Homeland Security
http://csis.org/event/smart-women-smart-power-global-insecurity-view-abroad-conversation-americas-ambassadors
Join the Smart Women, Smart Power Initiative for a panel discussion and question and answer session featuring 45 current and former U.S. ambassadors. They'll explore issues contributing to global insecurity, mass migration, refugees, war and conflict in regional hotspots, as well as tensions in the South China Sea. The participating ambassadors include:
Hon. Gina Abercrombie-Winstanley
Former U.S. Ambassador to Malta
Hon. Cynthia Akuetteh
U.S. Ambassador to Gabon
Hon. Pat Alsup
U.S. Ambassador to Gambia
Hon. Mari Aponte
Former U.S. Ambassador to El Salvador
Hon. Liliana Ayalde
U.S. Ambassador to Brazil
Hon. Erica J. Barks-Ruggles
U.S. Ambassador to Rwanda
Hon. Denise Bauer
U.S. Ambassador to Belgium
Hon. Colleen Bell
U.S. Ambassador to Hungary
Hon. Marcia Bernicat
U.S. Ambassador to Bangladesh
Hon. Piper Campbell
Former U.S. Ambassador to Mongolia
Hon. Judith Cefkin
U.S. Ambassador to Fiji
Hon. Maureen Cormack
U.S. Ambassador to Bosnia and Herzegovina
Hon. Laura Dogu
U.S. Ambassador to Nicaragua
Hon. Kathleen Doherty
U.S. Ambassador to Cyprus
Hon. Catherine Ebert-Grey
U.S. Ambassador to Papua New Guinea/Vanuatu/Soloman Islands
Hon. Julie Furuta-Toy
U.S. Ambassador to Equatorial Guinea
Hon. Jennifer Zimdahl Galt
U.S. Ambassador to Mongolia
Hon. Nina Hachigian
U.S. Ambassador to ASEAN
Hon. Pamela Hamamoto
Permanent Rep. of the U.S. to the U.N. and Other International Organizations in Geneva
Hon. Patricia Haslach
U.S. Ambassador to Ethiopia
Hon. G. Kathleen Hill
U.S. Ambassador to Malta
Hon. Amy Hyatt
U.S. Ambassador to Palau
Hon. Helen La Lime
U.S. Ambassador to Angola
Hon. Barbara Leaf
U.S. Ambassador to the UAE
Hon. Dawn Liberi
U.S. Ambassador to Burundi
Hon. Carmen Lomellin
Former U.S. Ambassador to the Organization of American States
Hon. Deb Malac
U.S. Ambassador to Uganda
Hon. Jean Manes
U.S. Ambassador to El Salvador
Hon. Deborah McCarthy
U.S. Ambassador to Lithuania
Hon. Crystal Nix-Hines
U.S. Ambassador to UNESCO
Hon. Virginia Palmer
U.S. Ambassador to Malawi
Hon. Lisa Peterson
U.S. Ambassador to Swaziland
Hon. Eunice Reddick
U.S. Ambassador to Niger
Hon. Marcie Ries
Former U.S. Ambassador to Bulgaria
Hon. Doria Rosen
U.S. Ambassador to Micronesia
Hon. Dana Smith
U.S. Ambassador to Qatar
Hon. Pamela Spratlen
U.S. Ambassador to Uzbekistan
Hon. Karen Stanton
U.S. Ambassador to Timor-Leste
Hon. Steph Sullivan
U.S. Ambassador to Republic of Congo (Brazzaville)
Hon. Linda Taglialatela
U.S. Ambassador to Barbados
Hon. Lucy Tamlyn
U.S. Ambassador to Benin
Hon. Margaret Uyehara
U.S. Ambassador to Montenegro
Hon. Shari Villarosa
U.S. Ambassador to Mauritius/Seychelles
Hon. Alice Wells
U.S. Ambassador to Jordan
Moderated by:
Nina Easton
Chair, Fortune Most Powerful Women International
Senior Associate, CSIS
Programs
Smart Women, Smart Power
Topics
Defense and Security, Geopolitics and International Security, Counterterrorism and Homeland Security
http://csis.org/event/smart-women-smart-power-global-insecurity-view-abroad-conversation-americas-ambassadors
10 March 2016 21:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://csis.org/files/attachments/Capstone%20Conference%20Draft%20Agenda%203.1.16.pdf
10 March 2016 21:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
. http://csis.org/expert/rebecca-hersman
Rebecca Hersman
Director, Project on Nuclear Issues, and Senior Adviser, International Security Program
Programs:
International Security Program, Project on Nuclear Issues
Topics:
Defense and Security, Geopolitics and International Security, Defense Strategy and Capabilities, Weapons of Mass Destruction Proliferation
Rebecca Hersman is director of the Project on Nuclear Issues and senior adviser for the International Security Program. Ms. Hersman joined CSIS in April 2015 from the Department of Defense (DOD), where she served as deputy assistant secretary of defense for countering weapons of mass destruction (WMD) since 2009. In this capacity, she led DOD policy and strategy to prevent WMD proliferation and use, reduce and eliminate WMD risks and respond to WMD dangers. Ms. Hersman was a key leader on issues ranging from the nuclear security summit to the elimination of Syria’s chemical weapons to the global health security agenda. She served as DOD’s principal policy advocate on issues pertaining to the Biological Weapons Convention, Chemical Weapons Convention, Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, and Cooperative Threat Reduction Program. Prior to joining DOD, Ms. Hersman was a senior research fellow with the Center for the Study of Weapons of Mass Destruction at the National Defense University from 1998 to 2009. Her primary projects focused on the role of DOD in mitigating the effects of chemical and biological weapons attack, concepts and strategies for eliminating an adversary’s WMD programs, as well as proliferation issues facing the United States. Ms. Hersman also founded and directed the WMD Center’s Program for Emerging Leaders, an initiative designed to shape and support the next generation of leaders from across the U.S. government with interest in countering weapons of mass destruction. Ms. Hersman previously held positions as an international affairs fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, a special assistant to the undersecretary of defense for policy, and a member of the House Armed Services Committee professional staff. She holds an M.A. in Arab studies from Georgetown University and a B.A. from Duke University.
Rebecca Hersman
Director, Project on Nuclear Issues, and Senior Adviser, International Security Program
Programs:
International Security Program, Project on Nuclear Issues
Topics:
Defense and Security, Geopolitics and International Security, Defense Strategy and Capabilities, Weapons of Mass Destruction Proliferation
Rebecca Hersman is director of the Project on Nuclear Issues and senior adviser for the International Security Program. Ms. Hersman joined CSIS in April 2015 from the Department of Defense (DOD), where she served as deputy assistant secretary of defense for countering weapons of mass destruction (WMD) since 2009. In this capacity, she led DOD policy and strategy to prevent WMD proliferation and use, reduce and eliminate WMD risks and respond to WMD dangers. Ms. Hersman was a key leader on issues ranging from the nuclear security summit to the elimination of Syria’s chemical weapons to the global health security agenda. She served as DOD’s principal policy advocate on issues pertaining to the Biological Weapons Convention, Chemical Weapons Convention, Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, and Cooperative Threat Reduction Program. Prior to joining DOD, Ms. Hersman was a senior research fellow with the Center for the Study of Weapons of Mass Destruction at the National Defense University from 1998 to 2009. Her primary projects focused on the role of DOD in mitigating the effects of chemical and biological weapons attack, concepts and strategies for eliminating an adversary’s WMD programs, as well as proliferation issues facing the United States. Ms. Hersman also founded and directed the WMD Center’s Program for Emerging Leaders, an initiative designed to shape and support the next generation of leaders from across the U.S. government with interest in countering weapons of mass destruction. Ms. Hersman previously held positions as an international affairs fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, a special assistant to the undersecretary of defense for policy, and a member of the House Armed Services Committee professional staff. She holds an M.A. in Arab studies from Georgetown University and a B.A. from Duke University.
http://csis.org/expert/rebecca-hersman
10 March 2016 21:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
As extra meeting to visit:
http://csis.org/event/poni-2016-capstone-conference
Apr 12, 2016 | 8:00 am - 8:00 pm
Photo courtesy of https://www.stratcom.mil/images/d/original/080212-F-2034C-901.jpg
The final conference of the 2015-2016 PONI Conference Series will be held on April 12 at United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM), Offutt Air Force Base.
The one-day conference will feature presentations from emerging nuclear experts covering topics such as modernization, unconventional threats, nonproliferation, and culture within the nuclear enterprise along with keynote addresses from senior experts. Conference presentations and keynote speakers are off-the-record.
Registration for the conference is now open.
PONI has secured a hotel block on base at the Air Force Inn. If you would like to book lodging on base call 402-294-3671 and the confirmation number is 20470095063.
The PONI Conference Series, now in its thirteenth year, is unique in its emphasis on featuring rising experts and young professionals in the nuclear field. The Conference Series draws emerging thought leaders from across the nuclear enterprise and policy community, and provides them with a visible platform for sharing their new thinking on a range of nuclear issues.
Programs
Project on Nuclear Issues
Topics
Defense and Security, Defense Strategy and Capabilities, Weapons of Mass Destruction Proliferation
http://csis.org/event/poni-2016-capstone-conference
Apr 12, 2016 | 8:00 am - 8:00 pm
Photo courtesy of https://www.stratcom.mil/images/d/original/080212-F-2034C-901.jpg
The final conference of the 2015-2016 PONI Conference Series will be held on April 12 at United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM), Offutt Air Force Base.
The one-day conference will feature presentations from emerging nuclear experts covering topics such as modernization, unconventional threats, nonproliferation, and culture within the nuclear enterprise along with keynote addresses from senior experts. Conference presentations and keynote speakers are off-the-record.
Registration for the conference is now open.
PONI has secured a hotel block on base at the Air Force Inn. If you would like to book lodging on base call 402-294-3671 and the confirmation number is 20470095063.
The PONI Conference Series, now in its thirteenth year, is unique in its emphasis on featuring rising experts and young professionals in the nuclear field. The Conference Series draws emerging thought leaders from across the nuclear enterprise and policy community, and provides them with a visible platform for sharing their new thinking on a range of nuclear issues.
Programs
Project on Nuclear Issues
Topics
Defense and Security, Defense Strategy and Capabilities, Weapons of Mass Destruction Proliferation
http://csis.org/event/poni-2016-capstone-conference
10 March 2016 21:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Christopher K. Johnson, CSIS senior adviser and Freeman Chair in China Studies, testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on East Asia, the Pacific, and International Cybersecurity Policy, on “The Changing Landscape of U.S.-China Relations: What Next?”
Programs:
Congressional Relations at CSIS, Freeman Chair in China Studies
Topics:
Defense and Security, Geopolitics and International Security, Technology and Cybersecurity, Cybersecurity
Regions:
China
http://csis.org/testimony/changing-landscape-us-china-relations-whats-next
http://csis.org/files/attachments/ts150929_Johnson.pdf
Programs:
Congressional Relations at CSIS, Freeman Chair in China Studies
Topics:
Defense and Security, Geopolitics and International Security, Technology and Cybersecurity, Cybersecurity
Regions:
China
http://csis.org/testimony/changing-landscape-us-china-relations-whats-next
http://csis.org/files/attachments/ts150929_Johnson.pdf
http://csis.org/testimony/changing-landscape-us-china-relations-whats-next
10 March 2016 20:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://1978b826afb0ce0277d8-37e06d43cca40bced37b678465a2d522.r74.cf2.rackcdn.com/151110_stp_leveraginginternet_cut1.mp3
http://1978b826afb0ce0277d8-37e06d43cca40bced37b678465a2d522.r74.cf2.rackcdn.com/151110_stp_leveraginginternet_cut1.mp3
10 March 2016 20:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://csis.org/event/leveraging-internet-things-more-efficient-and-effective-military
The CSIS Strategic Technologies Program hosted a launch event for their September report, “Leveraging the Internet of Things for a More Efficient and Effective Military.” The Internet of Things (IoT) is transforming the way organizations communicate, collaborate, and coordinate everyday business and industrial processes. While the Department of Defense (DoD) pioneered many of the core technologies that serve as the foundation of IoT, today the U.S. military is struggling to keep pace with commercial IoT development.
In the report, Denise E. Zheng and William A. Carter of CSIS examine how the military can better leverage internet of things (IoT) technologies to deliver new capabilities and cost savings. On Tuesday, November 10 experts discussed the report and its recommendations, and participated in a question and answer session about DoD’s efforts to adopt IoT technologies which are becoming increasingly central to enhancing combat effectiveness.
Introduction:
Sean O'Keefe
Distinguished Senior Adviser, CSIS
Opening keynote:
General James E. Cartwright (USMC, ret.)
Harold Brown Chair in Defense Policy Studies, CSIS
Panel:
Curtis W. Dukes
Director, Information Assurance Division, National Security Agency
Chris Smith
Vice President, Technology, AT&T Government Solutions
Moderated by:
William A. Carter
Research Associate, CSIS
Closing keynote:
Richard Hale
Deputy Chief Information Officer for Cybersecurity, U.S. Department of Defense
Programs
Future of the Internet, Internet of Things, Military Technology , Strategic Technologies Program, Technology and Innovation
Topics
Defense and Security, Geopolitics and International Security, Defense Industry, Acquisition, and Innovation, Defense Strategy and Capabilities, Counterterrorism and Homeland Security, Technology and Cybersecurity, Cybersecurity, Technology and Innovation, Military Technology
Regions
North America
The CSIS Strategic Technologies Program hosted a launch event for their September report, “Leveraging the Internet of Things for a More Efficient and Effective Military.” The Internet of Things (IoT) is transforming the way organizations communicate, collaborate, and coordinate everyday business and industrial processes. While the Department of Defense (DoD) pioneered many of the core technologies that serve as the foundation of IoT, today the U.S. military is struggling to keep pace with commercial IoT development.
In the report, Denise E. Zheng and William A. Carter of CSIS examine how the military can better leverage internet of things (IoT) technologies to deliver new capabilities and cost savings. On Tuesday, November 10 experts discussed the report and its recommendations, and participated in a question and answer session about DoD’s efforts to adopt IoT technologies which are becoming increasingly central to enhancing combat effectiveness.
Introduction:
Sean O'Keefe
Distinguished Senior Adviser, CSIS
Opening keynote:
General James E. Cartwright (USMC, ret.)
Harold Brown Chair in Defense Policy Studies, CSIS
Panel:
Curtis W. Dukes
Director, Information Assurance Division, National Security Agency
Chris Smith
Vice President, Technology, AT&T Government Solutions
Moderated by:
William A. Carter
Research Associate, CSIS
Closing keynote:
Richard Hale
Deputy Chief Information Officer for Cybersecurity, U.S. Department of Defense
Programs
Future of the Internet, Internet of Things, Military Technology , Strategic Technologies Program, Technology and Innovation
Topics
Defense and Security, Geopolitics and International Security, Defense Industry, Acquisition, and Innovation, Defense Strategy and Capabilities, Counterterrorism and Homeland Security, Technology and Cybersecurity, Cybersecurity, Technology and Innovation, Military Technology
Regions
North America
http://csis.org/event/leveraging-internet-things-more-efficient-and-effective-military
10 March 2016 20:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
and same time:
http://csis.org/expert/denise-e-zheng
"Previously, she served as chief of staff and lead science and engineering technical adviser as a contractor for the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) foundational cyber warfare program, Plan X. Before DARPA, Ms. Zheng was director for global government relations and cybersecurity policy at CA Technologies, a $5 billion enterprise software company, where she advised company executives on cybersecurity, data security and breach notification, and software assurance. While at CA, she was a member of the Information Technology (IT) Sector Coordinating Council, IT Information Sharing and Analysis Center, SAFECode, and vice chair of the TechAmerica Cybersecurity Legislative Subcommittee.
Denise E. Zheng is a senior fellow and deputy director of the Strategic Technologies Program at CSIS, where her work is focused on technology, innovation, cybersecurity, and Internet policy
Prior to CA Technologies, Ms. Zheng served as a professional staff member for the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. In that role, she was a principal in drafting and negotiations for the Cybersecurity Act of 2012 and conducted oversight of critical infrastructure protection programs, spectrum auctions, privacy, and federal IT programs. Ms. Zheng previously held various positions at CSIS, including program manager of the Technology and Public Policy Program, where she managed the CSIS Cybersecurity Commission among other program initiatives. In addition to writing on technology and cybersecurity issues, she has also authored reports on U.S.-China relations and soft power, and civil space policy issues. Ms. Zheng holds a B.A. in economics and political science from the University of Michigan, studied government at the London School of Economics and Political Science, and completed graduate coursework in security studies at the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies.
Denise E. Zheng
Deputy Director and Senior Fellow, Strategic Technologies Program
Programs:
Strategic Technologies Program
Topics:
Technology and Cybersecurity, Space, Cybersecurity, Intelligence, Surveillance, and Privacy, Military Technology
Regions:
Asia, China
http://csis.org/expert/denise-e-zheng
"Previously, she served as chief of staff and lead science and engineering technical adviser as a contractor for the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) foundational cyber warfare program, Plan X. Before DARPA, Ms. Zheng was director for global government relations and cybersecurity policy at CA Technologies, a $5 billion enterprise software company, where she advised company executives on cybersecurity, data security and breach notification, and software assurance. While at CA, she was a member of the Information Technology (IT) Sector Coordinating Council, IT Information Sharing and Analysis Center, SAFECode, and vice chair of the TechAmerica Cybersecurity Legislative Subcommittee.
Denise E. Zheng is a senior fellow and deputy director of the Strategic Technologies Program at CSIS, where her work is focused on technology, innovation, cybersecurity, and Internet policy
Prior to CA Technologies, Ms. Zheng served as a professional staff member for the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. In that role, she was a principal in drafting and negotiations for the Cybersecurity Act of 2012 and conducted oversight of critical infrastructure protection programs, spectrum auctions, privacy, and federal IT programs. Ms. Zheng previously held various positions at CSIS, including program manager of the Technology and Public Policy Program, where she managed the CSIS Cybersecurity Commission among other program initiatives. In addition to writing on technology and cybersecurity issues, she has also authored reports on U.S.-China relations and soft power, and civil space policy issues. Ms. Zheng holds a B.A. in economics and political science from the University of Michigan, studied government at the London School of Economics and Political Science, and completed graduate coursework in security studies at the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies.
Denise E. Zheng
Deputy Director and Senior Fellow, Strategic Technologies Program
Programs:
Strategic Technologies Program
Topics:
Technology and Cybersecurity, Space, Cybersecurity, Intelligence, Surveillance, and Privacy, Military Technology
Regions:
Asia, China
http://csis.org/expert/denise-e-zheng
10 March 2016 20:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
also other interesting topics on there:
PUSH XI ON BIOTECH: Rounding out the China section of our newsletter, the U.S. agriculture sector is urging President Barack Obama to pressure Xi to improve his country’s biotech approval process when the two meet. And this time, the industry hopes, the conversation won't stop as soon as the meeting is over, Pro Ag’s Bill Tomson reports.
The American Farm Bureau Federation, Biotechnology Industry Organization, American Soybean Association and the National Corn Growers Association have already signed on to a letter they’re planning to send as early as next week to the White House, encouraging the president to squeeze biotech into what is likely to be a full agenda.
Obama already engaged Xi on China’s unreliable approval process in November during the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Beijing, leading to a commitment from both countries to hold annual talks on the issue. A month later, high-level negotiators unveiled the agreement to hold an annual Strategic Agricultural Innovation Dialogue, and Agriculture Department officials immediately set to work trying to plan the first bilateral meeting. But a meeting has yet to happen some eight months later. Click here to read Tomson’s story: http://politico.pro/1JZjblt.
PUSH XI ON BIOTECH: Rounding out the China section of our newsletter, the U.S. agriculture sector is urging President Barack Obama to pressure Xi to improve his country’s biotech approval process when the two meet. And this time, the industry hopes, the conversation won't stop as soon as the meeting is over, Pro Ag’s Bill Tomson reports.
The American Farm Bureau Federation, Biotechnology Industry Organization, American Soybean Association and the National Corn Growers Association have already signed on to a letter they’re planning to send as early as next week to the White House, encouraging the president to squeeze biotech into what is likely to be a full agenda.
Obama already engaged Xi on China’s unreliable approval process in November during the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Beijing, leading to a commitment from both countries to hold annual talks on the issue. A month later, high-level negotiators unveiled the agreement to hold an annual Strategic Agricultural Innovation Dialogue, and Agriculture Department officials immediately set to work trying to plan the first bilateral meeting. But a meeting has yet to happen some eight months later. Click here to read Tomson’s story: http://politico.pro/1JZjblt.
http://politico.pro/1JZjblt
10 March 2016 20:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
So there is problems like that... and
http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/morning-trade/2015/09/whats-coming-up-in-september-210094 up to
http://fortune.com/2015/09/09/american-business-beijing/
http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/morning-trade/2015/09/whats-coming-up-in-september-210094 up to
http://fortune.com/2015/09/09/american-business-beijing/
http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/morning-trade/2015/09/whats-coming-up-in-september-210094
10 March 2016 20:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://csis.org/multimedia/video-managing-cyber-risk-and-role-insurance
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As cyber attacks become more frequent and more damaging, the cost of not being prepared is rising, and companies are considering how to mitigate risk. The insurance industry can play an important role in managing cyber risk, but it needs to better understand the threat, and quantify the potential damages. Understanding the range and diversity of cyber threats facing American companies, and the cost of cyber attacks and data breaches to victim companies, is essential for insurers to offer new products and services, and manage their own exposure to cyber risk.
CSIS convened a wide range of stakeholders including industry executives, senior policymakers, and security experts, to discuss these issues and promote the development of a common understanding of the cyber risks to American companies and how best to manage those risks.
Keynote address by:
Sarah Bloom Raskin
Deputy Secretary
U.S. Department of the Treasury
Panel 1 - The Cyber Threat Landscape
Moderator:
Denise Zheng
Deputy Director and Senior Fellow, Strategic Technologies Program
CSIS
Panelists:
Steven Shirley
Executive Director
Department of Defense Cyber Crime Center
Mark Weatherford
Principal
The Chertoff Group
Dmitri Alperovitch
Co-Founder and CTO
CrowdStrike
Jake Olcott
Vice President
BitSight Technologies
This event is made possible by the generous support of the National Association of Insurance Commissioners.
Programs
Strategic Technologies Program
Topics
Technology and Cybersecurity, Cybersecurity
"
As cyber attacks become more frequent and more damaging, the cost of not being prepared is rising, and companies are considering how to mitigate risk. The insurance industry can play an important role in managing cyber risk, but it needs to better understand the threat, and quantify the potential damages. Understanding the range and diversity of cyber threats facing American companies, and the cost of cyber attacks and data breaches to victim companies, is essential for insurers to offer new products and services, and manage their own exposure to cyber risk.
CSIS convened a wide range of stakeholders including industry executives, senior policymakers, and security experts, to discuss these issues and promote the development of a common understanding of the cyber risks to American companies and how best to manage those risks.
Keynote address by:
Sarah Bloom Raskin
Deputy Secretary
U.S. Department of the Treasury
Panel 1 - The Cyber Threat Landscape
Moderator:
Denise Zheng
Deputy Director and Senior Fellow, Strategic Technologies Program
CSIS
Panelists:
Steven Shirley
Executive Director
Department of Defense Cyber Crime Center
Mark Weatherford
Principal
The Chertoff Group
Dmitri Alperovitch
Co-Founder and CTO
CrowdStrike
Jake Olcott
Vice President
BitSight Technologies
This event is made possible by the generous support of the National Association of Insurance Commissioners.
Programs
Strategic Technologies Program
Topics
Technology and Cybersecurity, Cybersecurity
http://csis.org/multimedia/video-managing-cyber-risk-and-role-insurance
10 March 2016 20:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://csis.org/testimony/us-international-strategy-cybersecurity
http://csis.org/testimony/us-international-strategy-cybersecurity
10 March 2016 20:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://csis.org/files/attachments/ts150930_Lewis.pdf
10 March 2016 20:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
How Would You think the co-operation with CHINA government should be look a like... relating to Chinese government attacks on US ?
You make agreements with the immigrant who you try to hunt down, about they giving them self up so they would not be able to be an immigrant or... what kind of same level metaphor i would be even able to bring here?
Man, great greetings to China to even con-vincing World Vision USA to believe, that co-operation can be possible relating to issue like that... like "china, please stop being pro china and start to be pro USA and anti, against China interest, it would be nice, as then it is much more easy for us to dominate you and be on more of an advanced position "
And did we kind of forget, that Russia gov related deepest hacker mafia transported on near 2008 most of their servers and work base in to china.
To keep Russia IP clean, if the trace should be ever made.
and same time they can not attack back to much as china will have wall that acts as protection as well if poked ... and they will protect the ones inside way more then letting outside in to attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wq4w6DGsp4
http://csis.org/testimony/cyber-war-definitions-deterrence-and-foreign-policy
You make agreements with the immigrant who you try to hunt down, about they giving them self up so they would not be able to be an immigrant or... what kind of same level metaphor i would be even able to bring here?
Man, great greetings to China to even con-vincing World Vision USA to believe, that co-operation can be possible relating to issue like that... like "china, please stop being pro china and start to be pro USA and anti, against China interest, it would be nice, as then it is much more easy for us to dominate you and be on more of an advanced position "
And did we kind of forget, that Russia gov related deepest hacker mafia transported on near 2008 most of their servers and work base in to china.
To keep Russia IP clean, if the trace should be ever made.
and same time they can not attack back to much as china will have wall that acts as protection as well if poked ... and they will protect the ones inside way more then letting outside in to attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wq4w6DGsp4
http://csis.org/testimony/cyber-war-definitions-deterrence-and-foreign-policy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wq4w6DGsp4
10 March 2016 20:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://csis.org/node/41042 Lets say this guy has written few things, on hes name
Articles, Chapters, and Research
2008
“Regulating the Wealth of Nations: Foreign Investment and Sovereign Wealth,” The Policy Monitor, February 2008
“Satellite Shoot Down,” Google News, February, 2008
“Ignorance is Bliss,” Space News, March 2008
“Potential Global Strategic Catastrophes - Crises in Cyberspace” Geneva Center for Security Policy, November 2008
“Securing Cyberspace for the 44th Presidency: Report of the CSIS Commission on Cybersecurity,” CSIS, December 2008
2007
“Foreign Influence on Software: Risks and Recourse,” CSIS, March 2007
“China’s Military Modernization and its Impact on the United States and Asia Pacific Region,” Report of the U.S. China Security Review Commission, December 2007
“Neither Mahan Nor Mitchell: National Security Space and Space Power, 1945-2000” in Space Power, National Defense University, forthcoming
“Between the U.S. and China: the Current Dynamics of Military Space,” Politique Etrangere, 2;2007 Institut Francais des Relations Internationales,
“Building an Information Technology Industry in China: National Strategy, Global Markets,” CSIS, May 2007
“IP and Development,” Intellectual Property Watch, May 2007
“China’s Military Modernization,” Quanxi, Summer 2007
“There’s No Such Thing As Cyberterror,” “The Atlantic Community,” July 30, 2007
“Critical Questions: Domestic Surveillance, FISA, and Terrorism,” CSIS, November 7, 2007
“Innovation and Intellectual Property in the Knowledge Economy,” December, 2007
“Space and Power,” Space News, December 17, 2007
2006
“The War on Hype,” San Francisco Chronicle, February, 2006
“Critical Infrastructure Protection and Cyber Terrorism: Mass Destruction or Mass Annoyance?” in Transatlantic Homeland Security? Protecting Society in the Age of Catastrophic Terrorism, Routledge, 2006
“Waiting for Sputnik: Basic Research and Strategic Competition,” CSIS, March 2006
“Cyber Security and Critical Infrastructure Protection,” in Homeland Security: Protecting America’s Targets, Praeger, June 2006
“National Policies to Strengthen Innovation and Growth in North America,” CSIS, September 2006
“Cooperation in Space,” Space News, September 2006
2005
“A Measured Response to Europe,” Space News, April 2005
“Beyond CFIUS,” Federal Communications Law Journal, Spring 2005
“The Limits of Arms Transfer Restraint,” Arms Control Today, November, 2005
“The Internet and Terrorism,” Proceedings of the 99th Annual Meeting of the American Society for International Law, 2005
“China as a Military Space Power,” George Washington University Space Policy Institute, (December, 2005)
“The Internet and Security,” in The Internet and Democracy, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore, 2005
2004
“Beyond Evolution: Modernizing Air Traffic Management (with Anne Witkowsky), CSIS Press, May, 2004
“Galileo and GPS: From Competition to Cooperation,” in “Le Mani Sullo Spazio,” Limes Rivista Italiana Geopolitica, Fall 2004
“Netcentric Approaches to Port Security,” Stevens Institute of Technology, September 2004
“Globalization and National Security, CSIS Press, (November 2004)
“Aux Armes, Citoyens: Cyber Security and Regulation in the United States,” Telecommunications Policy, (Fall 2005)
2003
“The Place and Role of Technology in Framing the Balance of Power on the International Scene,” Fondation pour la Recherche Strategique, March 2003
International Cooperation in Cyber Security, CSIS, August 2003
“Cyber Terror: Missing in Action,” in Knowledge, Technology & Policy, Fall, 2003
“Spectrum Management for the 21st Century,” CSIS Press, October 2003
“Critical Infrastructure Protection - With All Deliberate Speed,” George Mason University CIP Report, December 2003
2002
“Assessing the Risks of Cyber Terrorism, Cyber War and Other Cyber Threats,” CSIS December 2002
“Export Controls/Dual Use Technology and Technology Transfer Issues,” Report of the U.S. China Security Review Commission, July, 2002
“Perils and Prospects for Internet Self Regulation,” Internet Society Proceedings, August 2002
“Surveillance and Security,” Internet Society Proceedings, August 2002
“Making America’s Homeland More Secure,” Insight Magazine, November 2002
2001
“Preserving America’s Strength in Satellite Technology,” CSIS Press, April 2001
“Technology and Security in the Twenty-First Century," CSIS Press, May 2001
“Computer Exports and National Security in a Global Era: New Tools for a New Century” CSIS Press, June 2001
“Strengthening Law Enforcement Capabilities for Counter-Terrorism” in To Prevail, CSIS Press, December 2001
Articles, Chapters, and Research
2008
“Regulating the Wealth of Nations: Foreign Investment and Sovereign Wealth,” The Policy Monitor, February 2008
“Satellite Shoot Down,” Google News, February, 2008
“Ignorance is Bliss,” Space News, March 2008
“Potential Global Strategic Catastrophes - Crises in Cyberspace” Geneva Center for Security Policy, November 2008
“Securing Cyberspace for the 44th Presidency: Report of the CSIS Commission on Cybersecurity,” CSIS, December 2008
2007
“Foreign Influence on Software: Risks and Recourse,” CSIS, March 2007
“China’s Military Modernization and its Impact on the United States and Asia Pacific Region,” Report of the U.S. China Security Review Commission, December 2007
“Neither Mahan Nor Mitchell: National Security Space and Space Power, 1945-2000” in Space Power, National Defense University, forthcoming
“Between the U.S. and China: the Current Dynamics of Military Space,” Politique Etrangere, 2;2007 Institut Francais des Relations Internationales,
“Building an Information Technology Industry in China: National Strategy, Global Markets,” CSIS, May 2007
“IP and Development,” Intellectual Property Watch, May 2007
“China’s Military Modernization,” Quanxi, Summer 2007
“There’s No Such Thing As Cyberterror,” “The Atlantic Community,” July 30, 2007
“Critical Questions: Domestic Surveillance, FISA, and Terrorism,” CSIS, November 7, 2007
“Innovation and Intellectual Property in the Knowledge Economy,” December, 2007
“Space and Power,” Space News, December 17, 2007
2006
“The War on Hype,” San Francisco Chronicle, February, 2006
“Critical Infrastructure Protection and Cyber Terrorism: Mass Destruction or Mass Annoyance?” in Transatlantic Homeland Security? Protecting Society in the Age of Catastrophic Terrorism, Routledge, 2006
“Waiting for Sputnik: Basic Research and Strategic Competition,” CSIS, March 2006
“Cyber Security and Critical Infrastructure Protection,” in Homeland Security: Protecting America’s Targets, Praeger, June 2006
“National Policies to Strengthen Innovation and Growth in North America,” CSIS, September 2006
“Cooperation in Space,” Space News, September 2006
2005
“A Measured Response to Europe,” Space News, April 2005
“Beyond CFIUS,” Federal Communications Law Journal, Spring 2005
“The Limits of Arms Transfer Restraint,” Arms Control Today, November, 2005
“The Internet and Terrorism,” Proceedings of the 99th Annual Meeting of the American Society for International Law, 2005
“China as a Military Space Power,” George Washington University Space Policy Institute, (December, 2005)
“The Internet and Security,” in The Internet and Democracy, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore, 2005
2004
“Beyond Evolution: Modernizing Air Traffic Management (with Anne Witkowsky), CSIS Press, May, 2004
“Galileo and GPS: From Competition to Cooperation,” in “Le Mani Sullo Spazio,” Limes Rivista Italiana Geopolitica, Fall 2004
“Netcentric Approaches to Port Security,” Stevens Institute of Technology, September 2004
“Globalization and National Security, CSIS Press, (November 2004)
“Aux Armes, Citoyens: Cyber Security and Regulation in the United States,” Telecommunications Policy, (Fall 2005)
2003
“The Place and Role of Technology in Framing the Balance of Power on the International Scene,” Fondation pour la Recherche Strategique, March 2003
International Cooperation in Cyber Security, CSIS, August 2003
“Cyber Terror: Missing in Action,” in Knowledge, Technology & Policy, Fall, 2003
“Spectrum Management for the 21st Century,” CSIS Press, October 2003
“Critical Infrastructure Protection - With All Deliberate Speed,” George Mason University CIP Report, December 2003
2002
“Assessing the Risks of Cyber Terrorism, Cyber War and Other Cyber Threats,” CSIS December 2002
“Export Controls/Dual Use Technology and Technology Transfer Issues,” Report of the U.S. China Security Review Commission, July, 2002
“Perils and Prospects for Internet Self Regulation,” Internet Society Proceedings, August 2002
“Surveillance and Security,” Internet Society Proceedings, August 2002
“Making America’s Homeland More Secure,” Insight Magazine, November 2002
2001
“Preserving America’s Strength in Satellite Technology,” CSIS Press, April 2001
“Technology and Security in the Twenty-First Century," CSIS Press, May 2001
“Computer Exports and National Security in a Global Era: New Tools for a New Century” CSIS Press, June 2001
“Strengthening Law Enforcement Capabilities for Counter-Terrorism” in To Prevail, CSIS Press, December 2001
https://csis.org/node/41042
10 March 2016 20:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://csis.org/node/41042 Lets say this guy has written few things, on hes name
Articles, Chapters, and Research
2012
“Stewardship, Security, and Cyberspace,” Munk School, February 2012
“Confidence Building and International Agreement in Cyber security,” United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research (UNIDIR), May 2012
“Will America Defeat Itself? Ideas and National Power,” CSIS, May 2012
“Cybersecurity Legislation: Voluntary Failure,” Foreign Policy, August 2012
“Competition in Cyberspace: The Asian Context,” Lowy Institute, September 2012
“Ready Player One: Did the Pentagon just take over America's cybersecurity?,” Foreign Policy, October 2012
"Hubris and Self-Interest Rule," Room for Debate, New York Times, October 2012
"China's Economic Espionage: Why It Worked in the Past But It Won't in the Future," Foreign Affairs, November 2012
“In Defense of Stuxnet,” Institute for National Security Studies,” December, 2012
“Problems of Cybersecurity," International Economy, Fall, 2012
‘The Limited Utility of Deterrence, Stimson Center, forthcoming
2011
“Cybersecurity After Two Years,” CSIS, January 2011
“Why Privacy and Cyber Security Clash,” in America’s Cyber Future: Security and Prosperity in the Information Age, Volume II, June 2011, Center for a New American Security
"Mining Bin Laden's computer trove," Newsday, May 2011
Book Review: Richard Stiennon, Surviving Cyberwar, Journal of Intelligence and National Security, 2011
“Cyber-Security and US-China Relations,” China-US Focus, July 2011
“Assessing the Cyber Threat,” Government Executive Magazine, August 2011
“Cyber Attacks, Real or Imagined, and Cyber War,” CSIS, July 2011
"Thresholds for Cyberwarfare," IEEE Security & Privacy, September 2011
“Cybersecurity and Cyberwarfare: Preliminary Assessment of National Doctrine and Organization,” United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research (UNIDIR), October 2011
“China in Space: Implication of the Space Module Docking,” China-US Focus November 2011
“Economic Espionage,” CSIS, December 2011
“Harnessing Leviathan - The International Context for Cybersecurity,” Aspen Institute
2010
“Technology and Geopolitics,” International Security Forum Special Reports, January 2010
“Can Google Beat China,” New York Times, January 2010
“China’s Google Scandal,” Huffington Post, January 2010
“Google and China: ‘Top of the World, Ma....’," CSIS, March 2010
“To Protect the U.S. Against Cyberwar, Best Defense Is a Good Offense,” US News and World Report, March 2010
“Sovereignty and the Role of Government in Cyberspace,” Brown Journal of International Affairs, Spring 2010
“The Cyber War has Not Begun, CSIS, March 2010
“A Note on the Laws of War in Cyberspace,” CSIS, April 2010
“A New Priority for Space,” Space News, May 2010
“Climate Change and Earth Observation,” CSIS, June 2010
“Multilateral Agreements to Constrain Cyberconflict,” Arms Control Today, June, 2010
“Cyberwarfare and its Impact on International Security,” United Nations Office for Disarmament Affairs (UNODA), Occasional Paper No. 19, June 2010
“Deterrence and Credible threats,” CSIS, June 2010
“International Cybersecurity in Transition,” Office of the Director of National Intelligence, forthcoming
“North Korea: Speak Loudly and Carry a Small Stick,” 38North, September 2010
“Cyber War and Cyber Defense: We Depend on the Kindness of Strangers,” Ambassadors Review, September 2010
“Engagement and Sustainability in the 2010 National Space Policy,” CSIS, November 2010
2009
“Space Security and Negotiations-Turn the Table,” Space News May 2009
“Read My Tweet on Iran,” CSIS Critical Questions, June 2009
“The “Korean Cyber Attacks’ and Their Implications for Cyber Conflict,” CSIS, October 2009
“The Fog of Cyber War,” International Security Forum Special Reports, November 2009
“Time to Enclose the Commons - International Agreement and Cyberspace,” International Affairs Forum, December 2009
Articles, Chapters, and Research
2012
“Stewardship, Security, and Cyberspace,” Munk School, February 2012
“Confidence Building and International Agreement in Cyber security,” United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research (UNIDIR), May 2012
“Will America Defeat Itself? Ideas and National Power,” CSIS, May 2012
“Cybersecurity Legislation: Voluntary Failure,” Foreign Policy, August 2012
“Competition in Cyberspace: The Asian Context,” Lowy Institute, September 2012
“Ready Player One: Did the Pentagon just take over America's cybersecurity?,” Foreign Policy, October 2012
"Hubris and Self-Interest Rule," Room for Debate, New York Times, October 2012
"China's Economic Espionage: Why It Worked in the Past But It Won't in the Future," Foreign Affairs, November 2012
“In Defense of Stuxnet,” Institute for National Security Studies,” December, 2012
“Problems of Cybersecurity," International Economy, Fall, 2012
‘The Limited Utility of Deterrence, Stimson Center, forthcoming
2011
“Cybersecurity After Two Years,” CSIS, January 2011
“Why Privacy and Cyber Security Clash,” in America’s Cyber Future: Security and Prosperity in the Information Age, Volume II, June 2011, Center for a New American Security
"Mining Bin Laden's computer trove," Newsday, May 2011
Book Review: Richard Stiennon, Surviving Cyberwar, Journal of Intelligence and National Security, 2011
“Cyber-Security and US-China Relations,” China-US Focus, July 2011
“Assessing the Cyber Threat,” Government Executive Magazine, August 2011
“Cyber Attacks, Real or Imagined, and Cyber War,” CSIS, July 2011
"Thresholds for Cyberwarfare," IEEE Security & Privacy, September 2011
“Cybersecurity and Cyberwarfare: Preliminary Assessment of National Doctrine and Organization,” United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research (UNIDIR), October 2011
“China in Space: Implication of the Space Module Docking,” China-US Focus November 2011
“Economic Espionage,” CSIS, December 2011
“Harnessing Leviathan - The International Context for Cybersecurity,” Aspen Institute
2010
“Technology and Geopolitics,” International Security Forum Special Reports, January 2010
“Can Google Beat China,” New York Times, January 2010
“China’s Google Scandal,” Huffington Post, January 2010
“Google and China: ‘Top of the World, Ma....’," CSIS, March 2010
“To Protect the U.S. Against Cyberwar, Best Defense Is a Good Offense,” US News and World Report, March 2010
“Sovereignty and the Role of Government in Cyberspace,” Brown Journal of International Affairs, Spring 2010
“The Cyber War has Not Begun, CSIS, March 2010
“A Note on the Laws of War in Cyberspace,” CSIS, April 2010
“A New Priority for Space,” Space News, May 2010
“Climate Change and Earth Observation,” CSIS, June 2010
“Multilateral Agreements to Constrain Cyberconflict,” Arms Control Today, June, 2010
“Cyberwarfare and its Impact on International Security,” United Nations Office for Disarmament Affairs (UNODA), Occasional Paper No. 19, June 2010
“Deterrence and Credible threats,” CSIS, June 2010
“International Cybersecurity in Transition,” Office of the Director of National Intelligence, forthcoming
“North Korea: Speak Loudly and Carry a Small Stick,” 38North, September 2010
“Cyber War and Cyber Defense: We Depend on the Kindness of Strangers,” Ambassadors Review, September 2010
“Engagement and Sustainability in the 2010 National Space Policy,” CSIS, November 2010
2009
“Space Security and Negotiations-Turn the Table,” Space News May 2009
“Read My Tweet on Iran,” CSIS Critical Questions, June 2009
“The “Korean Cyber Attacks’ and Their Implications for Cyber Conflict,” CSIS, October 2009
“The Fog of Cyber War,” International Security Forum Special Reports, November 2009
“Time to Enclose the Commons - International Agreement and Cyberspace,” International Affairs Forum, December 2009
https://csis.org/node/41042
10 March 2016 20:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://csis.org/node/41042 Lets say this guy has written few things, on hes name
Articles, Chapters, and Research
2016
“Review: The Snowden Reader,” H-Diplo listserv, forthcoming
“Expanding International Norms after the U.S.-China Cyber Theft Agreement,” World Political Review, January 2016
Posturing and Politics for Encryption, CSIS, February 2016
Managing Risk for the Internet of Things, CSIS February 2016
“Posturing and Politics for Encryption,” CSIS, February 2016
“Establish an International Precedent for Sharing Encrypted Data,” New York Times, February 2016
North Korea’s cyber capability; in The Conventional Military Balance on the Korean Peninsula; 2016 (forthcoming); IISS
2015
The Role of Offensive Cyber Operations in NATO's Collective Defence, Tallinn Papers, NATO Cooperative Cyber Defence Centre of Excellence, March 2015.
U.S.-Japan Cooperation in Cybersecurity, CSIS, (October 2015).
“IRS data theft not surprising,” CNN, May 2015
“Hackers Don’t Want to Crash Stock Exchanges, They Want To Make Money On Them,” Washington Post, July 2015
“We Wuz Robbed,” CSIS, July 2015
“Moving Forward with the Obama-Xi Cybersecurity Agreement,” CSIS, October 2015
“Measuring Cybersecurity Success at the Summit,” CSIS, October 2015
“Next Steps on Sanctions,” CSIS, September 2015
Cyber Confidence Building and Diplomacy in Latin America and the Caribbean, Organization of American States, Spring 2015
“You Still have Zero Privacy: Get over it,” GE Reports, August 2015
“North Korea and Sony: Why So Much Doubt and What About Deterrence?” 38North, January 2015
“’Compelling Opponents to Our Will” The role of cyber warfare in Ukraine” NATO Cooperative Cyber Defence Centre of Excellence, forthcoming, 2015.
2014
“Deterrence in the Cyber Age,” CSIS, November 2014
“2014 as the Year of Encryption: A (Very) Brief History of Encryption Policy,” CSIS
January 2014
“Liberty, Equality, Connectivity: Transatlantic Cybersecurity Norms,” CSIS, January 2014
“Factors influencing the advancement of China's military technology,” U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission, January 2014
“Idols of the Tribe,” University of Toronto Munk School of Global Affairs Cyber Dialogue, February 2104
“What do the Snowden Leaks Mean for Cyberspace and Governance?” CSIS, March 2014
“NIST Cybersecurity Framework: Trust but Verify,” CSIS April 2014
“Greatest Harm of Snowden Leaks Has Been to American Pride,” World Politics Review, April 2014
“Cybercrime is big money for hackers,” CNN, May 2014
“Chinese cyber-attacks 'not a parallel with NSA spying” Deutsche Welle, May 2014
“Hard Choices for Manned Spaceflight; America as Icarus,” CSIS May 2014
“National Perceptions of Cyber Threats,” Strategic Analysis, June 2014
“Net Losses: Estimating the Global Loss of Cybercrime,” McAfee, June 2014
“Cyber Tensions: Putting the Indictments for Cyber Espionage in Context,” American Chamber of Commerce, Shanghai, July 2014
“Space Exploration in a Changing National Environment,” CSIS, July 2014
“How the Internet Became a Focal Point for Espionage,” Fletcher Forum of World Affairs, August 2014
What’s Next in Cybersecurity? 1776, August 2014
“China in Space: Carrying Forward the Spirit of Two Bombs and One Satellite,” China Policy Institute, University of Nottingham, October 2014
“Heartbleed and the State of Cybersecurity,” American Foreign Policy Interests: The Journal of the National Committee on American Foreign Policy, November 2014
“The key to keeping cyberspace safe? An international accord,” Washington Post, October 2014
“Economic Warfare and Cyberspace,” Australian Strategic Policy Institute, November 2014
“Sovereignty and Governance, Observer Research Foundation, forthcoming
2013
“Don't Disqualify Brennan Over Interrogation,” US News and World Report, January 2013
“How Should the United States Operate Within the Cyber Domain?” Federation of American Scientists, January 2013
“The Alternatives to Drone Strikes Are Worse,” US News and World Report, February 2013
“In Defense of Stuxnet,” Institute for National Security Studies, February 2013
“Five Myths About Chinese Hackers,” Washington Post, March 2013
“Conflict and Negotiation in Cyberspace,” CSIS, February 2013
“Raising the Bar for Cybersecurity,” CSIS, February 2013
“Iran and Cyber Attack,” Security Times (Munich Security Conference) February 2013
“Who Is Whois? The DPRK and Cyber Attacks,” Foreign Policy, March 2013
“Private Retaliation and Vigilante Justice in Cyberspace,” CSIS, May 2013
“Estimating the Cost of Cybercrime and Cyber Espionage,” CSIS, May 2013
“Thresholds of Uncertainty: Collective Defense and Cybersecurity,” World Politics Review, June 2013
“Internet Governance: Inevitable Transitions,” The Centre for International Governance Innovation, October 2013
“Low-level cyber attacks are common but truly damaging ones are rare,” Washington Post, October 2013
“How Spying Is Just Like Sex,” Bloomberg View, October 2013
“The Limited Utility of Deterrence,” Stimson Center, October 2013
“The Snowden Effect: Can We Undo the Damage to American Power?” CSIS November 2013
“Rethinking Space Strategy,” CSIS, Forthcoming
Articles, Chapters, and Research
2016
“Review: The Snowden Reader,” H-Diplo listserv, forthcoming
“Expanding International Norms after the U.S.-China Cyber Theft Agreement,” World Political Review, January 2016
Posturing and Politics for Encryption, CSIS, February 2016
Managing Risk for the Internet of Things, CSIS February 2016
“Posturing and Politics for Encryption,” CSIS, February 2016
“Establish an International Precedent for Sharing Encrypted Data,” New York Times, February 2016
North Korea’s cyber capability; in The Conventional Military Balance on the Korean Peninsula; 2016 (forthcoming); IISS
2015
The Role of Offensive Cyber Operations in NATO's Collective Defence, Tallinn Papers, NATO Cooperative Cyber Defence Centre of Excellence, March 2015.
U.S.-Japan Cooperation in Cybersecurity, CSIS, (October 2015).
“IRS data theft not surprising,” CNN, May 2015
“Hackers Don’t Want to Crash Stock Exchanges, They Want To Make Money On Them,” Washington Post, July 2015
“We Wuz Robbed,” CSIS, July 2015
“Moving Forward with the Obama-Xi Cybersecurity Agreement,” CSIS, October 2015
“Measuring Cybersecurity Success at the Summit,” CSIS, October 2015
“Next Steps on Sanctions,” CSIS, September 2015
Cyber Confidence Building and Diplomacy in Latin America and the Caribbean, Organization of American States, Spring 2015
“You Still have Zero Privacy: Get over it,” GE Reports, August 2015
“North Korea and Sony: Why So Much Doubt and What About Deterrence?” 38North, January 2015
“’Compelling Opponents to Our Will” The role of cyber warfare in Ukraine” NATO Cooperative Cyber Defence Centre of Excellence, forthcoming, 2015.
2014
“Deterrence in the Cyber Age,” CSIS, November 2014
“2014 as the Year of Encryption: A (Very) Brief History of Encryption Policy,” CSIS
January 2014
“Liberty, Equality, Connectivity: Transatlantic Cybersecurity Norms,” CSIS, January 2014
“Factors influencing the advancement of China's military technology,” U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission, January 2014
“Idols of the Tribe,” University of Toronto Munk School of Global Affairs Cyber Dialogue, February 2104
“What do the Snowden Leaks Mean for Cyberspace and Governance?” CSIS, March 2014
“NIST Cybersecurity Framework: Trust but Verify,” CSIS April 2014
“Greatest Harm of Snowden Leaks Has Been to American Pride,” World Politics Review, April 2014
“Cybercrime is big money for hackers,” CNN, May 2014
“Chinese cyber-attacks 'not a parallel with NSA spying” Deutsche Welle, May 2014
“Hard Choices for Manned Spaceflight; America as Icarus,” CSIS May 2014
“National Perceptions of Cyber Threats,” Strategic Analysis, June 2014
“Net Losses: Estimating the Global Loss of Cybercrime,” McAfee, June 2014
“Cyber Tensions: Putting the Indictments for Cyber Espionage in Context,” American Chamber of Commerce, Shanghai, July 2014
“Space Exploration in a Changing National Environment,” CSIS, July 2014
“How the Internet Became a Focal Point for Espionage,” Fletcher Forum of World Affairs, August 2014
What’s Next in Cybersecurity? 1776, August 2014
“China in Space: Carrying Forward the Spirit of Two Bombs and One Satellite,” China Policy Institute, University of Nottingham, October 2014
“Heartbleed and the State of Cybersecurity,” American Foreign Policy Interests: The Journal of the National Committee on American Foreign Policy, November 2014
“The key to keeping cyberspace safe? An international accord,” Washington Post, October 2014
“Economic Warfare and Cyberspace,” Australian Strategic Policy Institute, November 2014
“Sovereignty and Governance, Observer Research Foundation, forthcoming
2013
“Don't Disqualify Brennan Over Interrogation,” US News and World Report, January 2013
“How Should the United States Operate Within the Cyber Domain?” Federation of American Scientists, January 2013
“The Alternatives to Drone Strikes Are Worse,” US News and World Report, February 2013
“In Defense of Stuxnet,” Institute for National Security Studies, February 2013
“Five Myths About Chinese Hackers,” Washington Post, March 2013
“Conflict and Negotiation in Cyberspace,” CSIS, February 2013
“Raising the Bar for Cybersecurity,” CSIS, February 2013
“Iran and Cyber Attack,” Security Times (Munich Security Conference) February 2013
“Who Is Whois? The DPRK and Cyber Attacks,” Foreign Policy, March 2013
“Private Retaliation and Vigilante Justice in Cyberspace,” CSIS, May 2013
“Estimating the Cost of Cybercrime and Cyber Espionage,” CSIS, May 2013
“Thresholds of Uncertainty: Collective Defense and Cybersecurity,” World Politics Review, June 2013
“Internet Governance: Inevitable Transitions,” The Centre for International Governance Innovation, October 2013
“Low-level cyber attacks are common but truly damaging ones are rare,” Washington Post, October 2013
“How Spying Is Just Like Sex,” Bloomberg View, October 2013
“The Limited Utility of Deterrence,” Stimson Center, October 2013
“The Snowden Effect: Can We Undo the Damage to American Power?” CSIS November 2013
“Rethinking Space Strategy,” CSIS, Forthcoming
https://csis.org/node/41042
10 March 2016 20:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
. http://csis.org/expert/james-andrew-lewis
Topics:
Defense and Security, Geopolitics and International Security, Defense Industry, Acquisition, and Innovation, Counterterrorism and Homeland Security, Technology and Cybersecurity, Space, Trade and Economics, Cybersecurity, Governance and Rule of Law, Intelligence, Surveillance, and Privacy, Military Technology.
James Andrew Lewis is a senior fellow and program director at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS). Before joining CSIS, he worked at the Departments of State and Commerce as a Foreign Service officer and as a member of the Senior Executive Service. His government experience includes work on politico-military issues in Asia and Central America and on military and intelligence policies including encryption and space remote sensing. Lewis was a negotiator on conventional arms and technology transfer. He led the U.S. delegation to the Wassenaar Arrangement Experts Group on advanced civil and military technologies, and he was the rapporteur for the UN Group of Government Experts on Information Security for their successful 2010, 2013, and 2015 sessions. He was assigned as a political adviser to U.S. Southern Command for Operation Just Cause, U.S. Central Command for Operation Desert Shield, and to the U.S. Central American Task Force.
Since coming to CSIS, Lewis has authored more than 100 publications. His recent work focuses on cybersecurity, including Securing Cyberspace for the 44th Presidency. He is an internationally recognized expert, and his comments appear frequently in the media. He has a close research partnership with the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations. His current research examines Internet sovereignty, cybersecurity, warfare, strategy, and technological change. Lewis received his Ph.D. from the University of Chicago.
Topics:
Defense and Security, Geopolitics and International Security, Defense Industry, Acquisition, and Innovation, Counterterrorism and Homeland Security, Technology and Cybersecurity, Space, Trade and Economics, Cybersecurity, Governance and Rule of Law, Intelligence, Surveillance, and Privacy, Military Technology.
James Andrew Lewis is a senior fellow and program director at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS). Before joining CSIS, he worked at the Departments of State and Commerce as a Foreign Service officer and as a member of the Senior Executive Service. His government experience includes work on politico-military issues in Asia and Central America and on military and intelligence policies including encryption and space remote sensing. Lewis was a negotiator on conventional arms and technology transfer. He led the U.S. delegation to the Wassenaar Arrangement Experts Group on advanced civil and military technologies, and he was the rapporteur for the UN Group of Government Experts on Information Security for their successful 2010, 2013, and 2015 sessions. He was assigned as a political adviser to U.S. Southern Command for Operation Just Cause, U.S. Central Command for Operation Desert Shield, and to the U.S. Central American Task Force.
Since coming to CSIS, Lewis has authored more than 100 publications. His recent work focuses on cybersecurity, including Securing Cyberspace for the 44th Presidency. He is an internationally recognized expert, and his comments appear frequently in the media. He has a close research partnership with the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations. His current research examines Internet sovereignty, cybersecurity, warfare, strategy, and technological change. Lewis received his Ph.D. from the University of Chicago.
http://csis.org/expert/james-andrew-lewis
10 March 2016 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
. http://csis.org/publication/economic-impact-cybercrime-and-cyber-espionage
http://csis.org/publication/economic-impact-cybercrime-and-cyber-espionage
10 March 2016 20:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi minu nabatants pole nii kena aga see eest kordumatu, tempel mällu igaveseks :D
10 March 2016 19:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga kui kui teile sobib, siis su kena nabatantsu vaataks muheledes küll : )
10 March 2016 19:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui Sa abielus poleks siis küsiksin Sult kaotamise puhul kena strip video
grazy monkey's https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1562468137414506&set=ms.c.eJwzNDUzMjGzMLAwMDcxtzAx1TOECBgam5sYmpgamAEAcpMGuQ~-~-.bps.a.1562467797414540.1073741832.100009540030513&type=3&theater
grazy monkey's https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1562468137414506&set=ms.c.eJwzNDUzMjGzMLAwMDcxtzAx1TOECBgam5sYmpgamAEAcpMGuQ~-~-.bps.a.1562467797414540.1073741832.100009540030513&type=3&theater
10 March 2016 19:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
patsime ?
(tegelikult me ei patsi ju.. me elame .. ja näeme... komenteerin siin väikese muigega homme sest...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjQyhRNX2yA
(tegelikult me ei patsi ju.. me elame .. ja näeme... komenteerin siin väikese muigega homme sest...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjQyhRNX2yA
10 March 2016 19:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sest see video jääb ülesse ju :p
10 March 2016 18:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ma meelega enam siinkohal ei ütle midagi, et saksite ise oma vitsad kätte :p
10 March 2016 18:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ta aitab teid
10 March 2016 18:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
saate ikka aru, et see pole päris film eks ?
Tervisi borisele!
Tervisi borisele!
10 March 2016 18:30
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Killo's post.
Proovin veel ühekorra teile head teha, ja SELLE FILMI TEGIJA ENDA KONTOLT LAETUD OSTMISEKS MÕELDUD FILMI LINKI JAGADA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j207h6MPhsA
Kui ta tema filmide levitamisega tegelete, siis oleksid pidanud ise selle triki peale tulema, mitte üle reageerima
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j207h6MPhsA
Kui ta tema filmide levitamisega tegelete, siis oleksid pidanud ise selle triki peale tulema, mitte üle reageerima
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j207h6MPhsA
10 March 2016 18:29
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Killo's post.
neid uuringuid proovitud igat pidi teha, ikka tuleb SAMA tulemus, sest copyright on mõeldud informatsiooni LIMITEERIMISEKS, mitte kaitsmiseks. See selleks, et kui päriselt kasulik või hea asi on, tark laul.. siis on õigusi omavatel keskustel võimalus filmi tegijatelt võim ära võtta ja filmi levikut piirama hakata - muidugi see enam ei toimi, sest enamus artistid kes vähegi arukad laevad oma loomingu tasuta ülesse,
Katy Perry laadis kõik oma demod vanad, lindistused jms unreleased laulud ka ja julgustab tasuta tema musika kuulamist
ja ometigi ta on üks kuulsamaid artiste, twitteris esikohal kõikidest teistest kasutajatest
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2009/apr/21/study-finds-pirates-buy-more-music
Katy Perry laadis kõik oma demod vanad, lindistused jms unreleased laulud ka ja julgustab tasuta tema musika kuulamist
ja ometigi ta on üks kuulsamaid artiste, twitteris esikohal kõikidest teistest kasutajatest
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2009/apr/21/study-finds-pirates-buy-more-music
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2009/apr/21/study-finds-pirates-buy-more-music
10 March 2016 18:21
Margus Meigo replied to Kristiina Killo's comment.
see on AMMU kindlaks tehtud, MITMETE uuringute kaudu, SH. filmi indrusty enda poolt, et need kes on piraadid ja kasutavad torrentit, laevad filme alla jms, need ostavad ja annavad filmi tööstusele 2-3 KORDA rohkem ja tihedamini raha kui tavalised inimesed, ja kohati 20-30 korda rohkem
10 March 2016 18:16
Margus Meigo replied to Kristiina Killo's comment.
takistad küll sest YTi kaudu inimesed avastavad selle filmi kindlasti rohkem kui Su profiili või selle lehe kaudu, see YT link on selleks, et ta filmile jõuaks
10 March 2016 18:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
amir see sõber kellega me koos londonis olime
10 March 2016 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Killo's post.
Siin laul Amir Taakilt, video lõpus, https://youtu.be/TtE--gj28_c?list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3&t=671
Kas saab veel lihtsamaks teha ?
Intellektuaalsust ei saa varastada, jagamine on areng
Kas saab veel lihtsamaks teha ?
Intellektuaalsust ei saa varastada, jagamine on areng
10 March 2016 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Killo's post.
Ühesõnaga saite aru, et te takistate filmi levikut ja selle müüki, läbi selle kui YTs selle müügi inimese, fimlmy oma tegija konto kinni panete, sestta proovib saada inimesi seda filmi ostma läbi aususe.. ja siis te siin "fa fa " ybs ei tohi jagada seda filmi, mis mõttes ?
Torrentis see ammu juba olemas, vist enne filmi välja tulekut eelmine aasta juba
Mõtlesin oma inglise crewle kes Haknys ka elab, üle mitmesaja pealine isiklik grup plus tuhanded muud liikmed grupis seda filmilinki jagada, aga igasugune isu kadus ära kui siin hakate lipsumeeste "intelektuaalne propery" teemat ajama, mis on täiesti solvav, Eestlastele midagi sellist kuulda. Kes päris iidseid arusaame teab, kuid kui ebareaalsusesse sukelduda, ja unustada maagilisi seeni ja LSD jms meeli arendavaid, isegi kanep maha jätta... siis muidugi tulemus käes. Muidugi päris maa inimesed kes õigetes energiates ja toidus elavad, need saavad ka ilma selge oleku endale ja arusaamades püsida.. kuid selline.. lipsumehelik pla pla copyrightist.. jeerum.. Toetama peaks kultuurseid, looduse ja meeli arendavaid filme, mitte rabelema siin selliste asjade eest, sõprade ees ka veel, olgu siis klient või mitte. Urr!
Torrentis see ammu juba olemas, vist enne filmi välja tulekut eelmine aasta juba
Mõtlesin oma inglise crewle kes Haknys ka elab, üle mitmesaja pealine isiklik grup plus tuhanded muud liikmed grupis seda filmilinki jagada, aga igasugune isu kadus ära kui siin hakate lipsumeeste "intelektuaalne propery" teemat ajama, mis on täiesti solvav, Eestlastele midagi sellist kuulda. Kes päris iidseid arusaame teab, kuid kui ebareaalsusesse sukelduda, ja unustada maagilisi seeni ja LSD jms meeli arendavaid, isegi kanep maha jätta... siis muidugi tulemus käes. Muidugi päris maa inimesed kes õigetes energiates ja toidus elavad, need saavad ka ilma selge oleku endale ja arusaamades püsida.. kuid selline.. lipsumehelik pla pla copyrightist.. jeerum.. Toetama peaks kultuurseid, looduse ja meeli arendavaid filme, mitte rabelema siin selliste asjade eest, sõprade ees ka veel, olgu siis klient või mitte. Urr!
10 March 2016 18:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ning sundma oma sõpru ostma SELLIST filmi raha eest.. .. väga veider, kus see moraali ja normi piir läheb
10 March 2016 18:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ja filmi te netist maha nagunii ei saa, see ju elemtaarne
10 March 2016 18:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
uskumatu, et mul eestlastega, kõrgema intelikensti omajatele maa järgi, selline vaidlus üldse tekkinud on.
ise veel loovad artistid ja peaksite aru saama küll, et need asjad aitavad asjadel levida
ise veel loovad artistid ja peaksite aru saama küll, et need asjad aitavad asjadel levida
10 March 2016 18:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui keegi independet filmi hobuse trukkimisest tee, see ei tähenda, et seda toetama peaks ja kaitsma
10 March 2016 17:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga see pole praegu teema, ma just räpsu tasuta, heast meelest, kuna tundusite olevat setud, mõtlesin sõbralikult kaasa aidata ja jagada.. ja siis nagu asute hoopis sellisesse ebaeestlasliku paanikasse
10 March 2016 17:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Selliste filmide puudumine tõesti tekitab ainult head
10 March 2016 17:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
SELLE FILMI OMANIK ISE PANI OMA FILMI ÜLESSE jeerum :D:D:D tulge reaalsusele
10 March 2016 17:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Miks võlgu?
Eelkõige muidugi, SELLISE filmi tegemise jaoks peaks inimesed maksma trahvi ja siis eri luba omama, et seda naäidata, sest see inimeste arengut alandav, ku isiin reaalsusest tahad rääkida
Eelkõige muidugi, SELLISE filmi tegemise jaoks peaks inimesed maksma trahvi ja siis eri luba omama, et seda naäidata, sest see inimeste arengut alandav, ku isiin reaalsusest tahad rääkida
10 March 2016 17:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vargus on sis kui võetakse midagi ära ja siis sul seda enam pole ja midagi on vähem, kui keegi vaatab midagi, kopeerib, siis see on LAIENEMINE, tasuta,
ei tasu kommunistlike kontroll mehanisme, siin segi ajada kes selliste kopy right skeepide taga on, mis väga alatud skeemid rahva lüpsmiseks.
ei tasu kommunistlike kontroll mehanisme, siin segi ajada kes selliste kopy right skeepide taga on, mis väga alatud skeemid rahva lüpsmiseks.
10 March 2016 17:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See pole esiteks INTELEKTUAALE
ja see pole vargus.
Seda arvastasid, et seda jama see filmi tegija ise seal kontol jagas ?
ja see pole vargus.
Seda arvastasid, et seda jama see filmi tegija ise seal kontol jagas ?
10 March 2016 17:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ning 4-5 tärnine film ka veel "it's worth a watch if you want to see a film about a load of Heroin addicts and corrupt cops fighting against each other but don't expect anything with morality or a deep and meaningful storyline "
Tõsiselt kaitsed sellist asja selliselt ?
Raha ei tohi hinge minna sedasi ,siis võetakse loovus ja sügavus ära ja ainult tühi kest jääb järele,
mis vanast heast pungi ja hippi ja armastuste teemadest sai ?
.
Tõsiselt kaitsed sellist asja selliselt ?
Raha ei tohi hinge minna sedasi ,siis võetakse loovus ja sügavus ära ja ainult tühi kest jääb järele,
mis vanast heast pungi ja hippi ja armastuste teemadest sai ?
.
10 March 2016 17:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Pead need tulnukad oma peast välja saama, sedasi ei tohi elada, see on kurjast võidelda vabaduse vastu.
Ja kat cr torrentist ei saa neid nagunii mitte ükski võim maha võtta praeguseks, seega pole suurt mõtet
Ja kat cr torrentist ei saa neid nagunii mitte ükski võim maha võtta praeguseks, seega pole suurt mõtet
10 March 2016 17:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sa oled päris soojaks läinud kullakene v?
10 March 2016 17:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Oot ega sa mu filmi täis link ära ei kustutanud ise ?
10 March 2016 17:46
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Killo's post.
"Subtitles (EN), Welsh Yardie subtitles & Chinese pirated subtitles*."
(Y)
(Y)
10 March 2016 17:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lol:D
10 March 2016 17:30
Margus Meigo replied to Roberto Fox's comment.
i have been out of green for long so not being able to travel to much
10 March 2016 15:40
Margus Meigo replied to Roberto Fox's comment.
i like when people ask before liking by not beings sure what they like or why
10 March 2016 15:02
Margus Meigo replied to Roberto Fox's comment.
bread package (from World Etno historic Turkish Estonian bread) and a special old version of bible whit full references and explanations about every internal book known history, meaning and instructions of various methods of reading and interpreting
10 March 2016 15:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Oasis had already had to settle a plagiarism case on debut album Definitely Maybe, with The New Seekers receiving $500,000 after Shakermaker stole the chorus from I'd Like to Teach the World To Sing."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWKznrEjJK4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWKznrEjJK4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWKznrEjJK4
10 March 2016 14:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/75725677/The-Seekers-Judith-Durham-is-a-matinee-idol
http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/75725677/The-Seekers-Judith-Durham-is-a-matinee-idol
10 March 2016 14:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.everyhit.com/chart2.html
http://www.everyhit.com/chart2.html
10 March 2016 14:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And Guess what? There is no Beatles, and The Seekers are still here!
Yeah Seekers!
Yeah Seekers!
10 March 2016 14:01
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's photo.
Kreetings Kaz and Xara dear!
10 March 2016 13:00
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's photo.
Supper nice girls : )))
10 March 2016 13:00
Margus Meigo commented on Aimar Altosaar's photo.
ma esimese hooga vaatasin, et peyote kaktused
10 March 2016 13:00
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Mändmets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
et aru saada, kas madu tegi seda hea või paha pärast.
Jumala käsul või jumala usaldust kuritarvitades
kuid eks küll kunagi teada saame, mida see karistus tähendab, et ta nüüd roomama peab alati.. ja et tema seemne ja naise vahel rahu pole.. et kelle DNA tuksi keerati millise üle astumisega mis väärarenguid tekitama hakkas, mis bioloogiliselt kaua aega ja parandust võtab, et uuesti kokku kasvatada õigeks, need armid igalpool10 March 2016 09:58
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Kui ei tea kuidas, siis võid alati minult küsida, annan mitmeid näited ku itarvis10 March 2016 09:56
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Tehniliselt õige, kuid mitte piisavalt täpne kõigi jaoks. Sellepärast vaja täpsustada, ning sinna otsa ku isaad seleta paari oma sõnaga lahti mida see Sinu südames tähendab ja kuidas seda teha10 March 2016 09:56
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Meelis Vesi selgita täpsemalt, (viidetega ka)10 March 2016 09:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Head asja võib aeg-ajalt ikka meelde tuletada rohkem, sest siis vahest harva saab keegi lugema ka
http://www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm
http://www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm
http://www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm
10 March 2016 09:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lisatööna veel kanseldab igast muid jumalaks pürgivaid,
selgitamaks, et nad isegi temast rohkem olla ei saa ning ta lihtsalt tillikott... et võtku vaiksemalt, koomale..kuid paremini ja sõbralikumalt üksteise ligi või üksteise üleastutud piiridest eemale, et saaks kõik olla, keda vaja
selgitamaks, et nad isegi temast rohkem olla ei saa ning ta lihtsalt tillikott... et võtku vaiksemalt, koomale..kuid paremini ja sõbralikumalt üksteise ligi või üksteise üleastutud piiridest eemale, et saaks kõik olla, keda vaja
10 March 2016 09:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tema onab niisama oluliselt siin jaseal üritades olla ja mitte väljavahetatud saada, kui liiga palju tillikotis rippudes kotte torkima hakkab, samas niisama seistes läheb ka kasutuks.. et peab liikumises hoidma, aga õiges, meldivas, ja tunnetuslikus
10 March 2016 09:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see ka päris võimas käsitlus, selgitus @ Ants Mändmets
kuid päris olematuseni see välja ei lähe minu silma järgi, enne ikka on piir vahel ja ON
see mis peale ONi, tuleb, selle eest Vanajumal ise meid kaitsta üritab ja puid kasvatab...
kuid päris olematuseni see välja ei lähe minu silma järgi, enne ikka on piir vahel ja ON
see mis peale ONi, tuleb, selle eest Vanajumal ise meid kaitsta üritab ja puid kasvatab...
10 March 2016 09:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ma neile veel kõlistan
10 March 2016 09:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see sinine, säde ta ümber
10 March 2016 09:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
No on tegelased
10 March 2016 09:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
test 2
http://pichoster.net/ecY
http://pichoster.net/ecY
http://pichoster.net/ecY
10 March 2016 09:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
test
http://pichoster.net/image/ecY
http://pichoster.net/image/ecY
http://pichoster.net/image/ecY
10 March 2016 09:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Urr, miks need gfid ei toimi siis kui vaja
http://pichoster.net/images/2016/03/10/tumblr_lkslez4acK1qibgivo1_400.gif
http://pichoster.net/images/2016/03/10/tumblr_lkslez4acK1qibgivo1_400.gif
10 March 2016 09:16
Margus Meigo commented on KayZar AukNah's post.
No one have asked from us
But lets see
But lets see
10 March 2016 09:06
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
See kui inimene Ajas peatub korra selliselt, et tal seline arusaam tekkis kogemusega, meeldejäävalt, ei tähenda, et siis aeg enne liikunud oleks
Tead küll seda laulu ju, mis juba vastas.. kuigi jättis mulje kerguse mõttes nagu aeg läheks-.. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsXelNZnKcxnlIblaeiXFnzUipDKt8fGi
Tead küll seda laulu ju, mis juba vastas.. kuigi jättis mulje kerguse mõttes nagu aeg läheks-.. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsXelNZnKcxnlIblaeiXFnzUipDKt8fGi
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsXelNZnKcxnlIblaeiXFnzUipDKt8fGi
10 March 2016 07:16
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Jeerum, aeg ongi ju paigal alati
mis asja nad koolis õpetavad :D
mis asja nad koolis õpetavad :D
10 March 2016 07:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuidagi kohe ei enable ta neid pilte .. hmm
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207853706917329&set=a.3344643891644.2153191.1135161043&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207853706917329&set=a.3344643891644.2153191.1135161043&type=3
10 March 2016 05:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
10 March 2016 05:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
.:.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207853706917329
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207853706917329
10 March 2016 05:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Or more like a Queen
Queens Preparatory Academy
Queens Preparatory Academy
10 March 2016 04:51
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Mändmets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Nu tegelikult sellistes küsimustes mööda panek on väärt aktiviseerida liigipuhastuse programm,
bioloogiline, etomoloogiline, '
Mis siin ikka ärituda10 March 2016 04:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sellel kõigel on muidugi rohkem Kui tähendus
10 March 2016 04:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sellel kõigel on muidugi rohkem Kui tähendus
10 March 2016 04:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
if we could only be able to explain the impification of all that with out sounding "nutjob" for many "average people" with no interest of technology that is used to power their own life and many ways is blueprint for basic of the control systems that run them self ...
" Five years ago, Facebook started leading an effort called the Open Compute Project to change the way data centers are designed and operated.
Data centers power the internet. They're the nervous system that allows all kinds of services to run -- including Facebook.
But until five years ago, the largest technology companies all designed their data centers and computing infrastructure in secret. They viewed this technology as a competitive advantage to beat others in the industry.
We realized that if we opened up our designs and shared our progress with the industry, we'd all make faster progress together. By working together, we'd produce more efficient designs that would save energy, protect the environment and build better infrastructure for our community.
It has worked. So far, we've saved billions of dollars in energy and efficiency improvements. Open Compute now brings together hundreds of companies and thousands of engineers to make progress together even faster.
Today, Google joined the Open Compute Project. Google has always built some of the best infrastructure in the industry, so this is strong symbolic move that our open model of development is the best way forward for everyone.
Over the next decade, we're going to build experiences that rely more on technology like artificial intelligence and virtual reality. These will require a lot more computing power, and through efforts like OCP, we're developing a global infrastructure to enable everyone to enjoy them.
Here's a great story in WIRED that explains more: http://www.wired.com/2016/03/google-facebook-designing-open-source-data-center-gear-together
" Five years ago, Facebook started leading an effort called the Open Compute Project to change the way data centers are designed and operated.
Data centers power the internet. They're the nervous system that allows all kinds of services to run -- including Facebook.
But until five years ago, the largest technology companies all designed their data centers and computing infrastructure in secret. They viewed this technology as a competitive advantage to beat others in the industry.
We realized that if we opened up our designs and shared our progress with the industry, we'd all make faster progress together. By working together, we'd produce more efficient designs that would save energy, protect the environment and build better infrastructure for our community.
It has worked. So far, we've saved billions of dollars in energy and efficiency improvements. Open Compute now brings together hundreds of companies and thousands of engineers to make progress together even faster.
Today, Google joined the Open Compute Project. Google has always built some of the best infrastructure in the industry, so this is strong symbolic move that our open model of development is the best way forward for everyone.
Over the next decade, we're going to build experiences that rely more on technology like artificial intelligence and virtual reality. These will require a lot more computing power, and through efforts like OCP, we're developing a global infrastructure to enable everyone to enjoy them.
Here's a great story in WIRED that explains more: http://www.wired.com/2016/03/google-facebook-designing-open-source-data-center-gear-together
http://www.wired.com/2016/03/google-facebook-designing-open-source-data-center-gear-together
10 March 2016 04:12
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
do not let TVs to tell who to hate
ya start hate ya self!
i mean, by your self..
no, that also did not sound good ....
ya start hate ya self!
i mean, by your self..
no, that also did not sound good ....
10 March 2016 04:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Tutvu uute inimestega
noored naised kolidele kõige enam moes, sest nende hing vääris... eriti ku nad oma võluvõimetest veel aru ei saa või siis ku isaavad.. siis neid ikkagi hea pätsata... et pärast ianult tyhi kest jääks alles nagu enamus kellelt pätsati nende eripära..
poisse kaustatakse.. nende sisse sarvik.. ja siis nende kaudu saab tydrukule ligi, ja otse sisse ka ligi...9 March 2016 20:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Tutvu uute inimestega
paljud lapse ohtu naljatades teisi uskuma pannud, et nagu tegu oleks lihtalt nalja pildiga....aga kui nali, siis miks valida tule vere värv ja need numbrid mida me teame väga hästi..9 March 2016 20:56
Margus Meigo replied to Koit Kranig's comment.
Group: Kristlased
siis kergem ühes koos vastata kõigele kui veel sarnasi uskumusi muud osad tekitavad9 March 2016 14:53
Margus Meigo replied to Koit Kranig's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Koit Kranig ma tegelema endiselt hakkan alles sellega, kas Samasi kirjakohti mis veel täpselt seda sama kinnitaks, saad tuua9 March 2016 14:53
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Koit Kranig ma tegelema endiselt hakkan alles sellega, kas Samasi kirjakohti mis veel täpselt seda sama kinnitaks, saad tuua9 March 2016 14:53
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Mändmets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
ei nu Sina ära sellepärast muretse, küll need targad naised teavad kuidas ja kellega algatavad, Sina küsid ju maiselt., naise käest, et kas ta Sinu asja küsida saaks,
siiralt
kui osakd Naist paluda9 March 2016 14:52
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Nagu Vooglaid ütles...
aga isegi see saab valida, kui süda või tunded alles on9 March 2016 14:50
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Meelis: Käske on ju tegelikult üks.. või oli neid kaks.. millest kõik pärineb,
kas tead mis need/see on ?
(10 on ohmoonimatele kes elementaarsest aru ei saa, need kes muidugi 10nest kokku aru ei saa, nendega eriti raske..)9 March 2016 14:48
Margus Meigo replied to Veronika Räihä's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Tarkus ise muidu on Naine (Proverbs 8:24 annab vihje, mis siis on tervenisti naissoost, nagu kogu Õpetussõnad, mis salomoni ema poolt aidatud koostada...)9 March 2016 14:43
Margus Meigo replied to Veronika Räihä's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Tõsi ta on9 March 2016 14:43
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
st. tõe suunalist
(lähedast, ei ole piisav)9 March 2016 11:58
Margus Meigo replied to Koit Kranig's comment.
Group: Kristlased
st. tõe suunalist
(lähedast, ei ole piisav)9 March 2016 11:58
Margus Meigo replied to Koit Kranig's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Digitaalse ajuga inimesed saavad uues digi versioonis kohe uuele vastusele hüpata sest pole vaja seost minevikuga, manuaalsemate ajudega vaja trajaktoor nagu laevameestele kes lihtsalt ei saa peale kordinate uuele kohale hüpata.. ja siis veel need muud versioonid inimestest ja teadmiste mullist kus kasvatud.. .. et neile mõlemale korraga enamvähem tõe lähedast kirjutada, .. jah, see minu töö9 March 2016 11:57
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Digitaalse ajuga inimesed saavad uues digi versioonis kohe uuele vastusele hüpata sest pole vaja seost minevikuga, manuaalsemate ajudega vaja trajaktoor nagu laevameestele kes lihtsalt ei saa peale kordinate uuele kohale hüpata.. ja siis veel need muud versioonid inimestest ja teadmiste mullist kus kasvatud.. .. et neile mõlemale korraga enamvähem tõe lähedast kirjutada, .. jah, see minu töö9 March 2016 11:57
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Senikaua kui ma selles osas tööd teen...Kas Sa peale Kol.1:16 veel kohtasi saad tuua, soovitavalt mitte Pauluse sulest (kuid noh, anname talle andeks..) mis seda sama tõdemust kinnitaks millest arusaid Jessuse osas ?
(asi selles,et ma ei sa lihtsalt vastata vaid pean sedasi, mis eelkõige Su hingele ja samas avalikule kooslusele nõustutav tunduks - nii need kes vastased kui need kes poolt, rooli aga õigessuunas keerata, sedasi et nõustuda nendega kes teab mis suunas minna vaja pole kerge, sest valelt teelt õigesse suunda tagasi minekuks vaja on korra teisele poole valesti keerata, kui kiiresti jõuda ja siis tagasi keerata... et samal teel olla mis vaja, ... kujuta teelt kõrvale sõitnud autot ette, kus kõrvale sõitnu on näiteks selle homo kuningas Jamesi piibli tõlkes ja siis õigele teele minekuks on teises suunas olevat Jehoova tunnistajate tõlgendust vaja... aga päris tõdede inimestega ju ka see tõde ei tundu õige, kui kogu trajektoor mis asukohast ja kuhu keerad ja miks ja kellega...)9 March 2016 11:54
Margus Meigo replied to Koit Kranig's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Senikaua kui ma selles osas tööd teen...Kas Sa peale Kol.1:16 veel kohtasi saad tuua, soovitavalt mitte Pauluse sulest (kuid noh, anname talle andeks..) mis seda sama tõdemust kinnitaks millest arusaid Jessuse osas ?
(asi selles,et ma ei sa lihtsalt vastata vaid pean sedasi, mis eelkõige Su hingele ja samas avalikule kooslusele nõustutav tunduks - nii need kes vastased kui need kes poolt, rooli aga õigessuunas keerata, sedasi et nõustuda nendega kes teab mis suunas minna vaja pole kerge, sest valelt teelt õigesse suunda tagasi minekuks vaja on korra teisele poole valesti keerata, kui kiiresti jõuda ja siis tagasi keerata... et samal teel olla mis vaja, ... kujuta teelt kõrvale sõitnud autot ette, kus kõrvale sõitnu on näiteks selle homo kuningas Jamesi piibli tõlkes ja siis õigele teele minekuks on teises suunas olevat Jehoova tunnistajate tõlgendust vaja... aga päris tõdede inimestega ju ka see tõde ei tundu õige, kui kogu trajektoor mis asukohast ja kuhu keerad ja miks ja kellega...)9 March 2016 11:53
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Mändmets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Nu ma pakun küll, et suht enesekindel pead olema, ja teadlik enda kindluses, et selline asi ette võtta nagu Jeesusega rääkimine kui teda kasvõi läbi kõige tavalisema religiooni tõlgenduse võtad.
Suuremal osal inimesel ei jätkuks enesekindlust rahulikult Presidenti, Naabritüdrukuga kes meeldib, Savisaare või Mark Zucenbergiga rääkida, rääkimata siis veel sellisest olendist.
Vb, sa oled nii enesekindel inimene, et pole sellele mõelnutki mis moodi tavalised inimesed pabistavad tihti nende ees keda austavad9 March 2016 11:47
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
ka HELL-enistlike arusaamade tundimisest Heebria kultuuri...9 March 2016 11:15
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Pereraadiust Marcuse evengeeliumit ehk kuulad momendil praegu..
Naise ja Mehe osas9 March 2016 11:14
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
LSDd ja Teravpaljakuid kasutades (kuid mitte liiga väikses koguses)9 March 2016 11:00
Margus Meigo replied to Koit Kranig's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Aga tean jah, et see koht paljud inimesed on SELLELE arusaamale viinud, lausa ususekte sellepeale loodud9 March 2016 10:57
Margus Meigo replied to Koit Kranig's comment.
Group: Kristlased
See on väga paljuga seotud, selleks läheb vähemalt tund, et seda läbi töödata kui kiiruga teha, aga proovin
-kuigi pea hakkas huugama, mul üle poole tunni täis teadvuses meeled üksi vastu ei pea kui piiblikohti tölgendada ilma abivahenditeta
KO 1:16
14: ef 1.7
15: he 1:3
16: jh 1. 3:10
17: õp 8:22
18: ap 26:23, ef 1:22, ilm 1:5
19: p. 2:9 Mt 11:26 j, Jh 1:16
20: Ro 5,10 2Ko 5:19, Ef 1:10, 1 jh 2:2, 4:109 March 2016 10:57
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Mändmets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Ma nii enesekindel veel pole, et ma hakkaks Jeesusega rääkima, sest ma kriitilise ja nõudliku ehituse meelega ning siis mine tea mis vanad asjad meelde tulevad ja teades kui palju ma unustanud, võin teist lausa tülitada ilmaaaegu...
muidugi eks on veel ka muid jõude kelle niisama torkimine rohkem kahju kaasa toob..9 March 2016 10:46
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Mändmets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Naistel jeesusega suhtlmeine päris tavapärane,
tean paljusi naisi kes ütlenud,et nad on küll otse suhtluses, küll imtiimses suhtluses.. .. vot mine tea kes millisega ja miks, aga kui soovid, siis.. siis edastan küsimusi..
kuid parem siiski, kui leiad päris usklike või loodus naisi, ja siiralt küsida neilt, täies usus, et kas nad saaksid Jeesuselt midagi küsida.
see polegi nii oluline alati ,et nad kirikulised oleks, .. oluline on, et nad näeksid, et Sina usud ausalt, ja siis .. küll Jumal juba asjad korda ajab...
kuid ära testi naisi kavalusega vaid rohkem ole alandlikus teenistuses, kui nii oluliste asjadega tegeled9 March 2016 10:45
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
veider, et see juba kolmandas klassis elementaarse hariduse osa veel siiani pole.. Rooma võim peaks ju omea nii kukutatud, et me Nende usku lõhkuvat haridussüsteemi ainiti ei vahiks nagu mullikas aiaväravat.. vaid võtaks härjal sarvist ja teeks sellest ajupeedistamise riivist midagi kasulikku, praegu jälle on ju lubatud, on see aeg..9 March 2016 10:41
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Seda kindlasti
Aru pead saama, et Sisened Jumalale lähemale, väga palju lähemale kui Naise sees oled. see elementaarne.
Ainuüksi Naise vaatevinklis, ja kärval olek juba on asi mis peab Sind veelgi korralikumaks tegema kui muidu oled...
(Su emal on Sind õigus ka igalajal näha, eriti siis kui Sa otseselt uue naise valduses veel pole, kui Su ema Sind naisele üle andnud, siis ta ainult vaatab üle aegajalt vaimus, aga areneda peab enamuses laskma Sul ise..)
Ning sinutänutunde ja helluse tasemest, kui tänulik suudad olla Loojale, et Sul seekord selline võimalus anti Naisega.. sellest oleneb... aga naise armastus nii hea, ta enamus asjad vabandab Su nimel välja muidugi, sest tahab ise ka kiita saada, etta oli tark naine ja valis õige mehe kelle on suutnud jumalale ligemale viia...
aga noh... tihti jäätakse arengus kuskile kohale seisma.. selleasemel, et siirusest ja õrnusest püüdlikult särada oma naisele9 March 2016 10:38
Margus Meigo replied to Roosi Raudsepp's comment.
Mmkay, siis ma veel maadlen sutsu, seda harva ettevõtan aint
9 March 2016 10:35
Margus Meigo replied to Roosi Raudsepp's comment.
Eks see väga pop mõte tänapäeval, ära igast mass moodidega kaasa torma, mõtle ikka oma südamega
9 March 2016 10:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi hakkaks!
9 March 2016 10:34
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Hmm,.. huvitav, mis Sa selle all mõtled?
Kõlab huvitavalt.. aga ma pole päris kindel..et mida mõtled ja mis see tähendab9 March 2016 10:33
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Tõsi9 March 2016 10:31
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Naisepeale ainult himustades vaatama peaksitki, kui päriselt aru saad kes ta on ja kui ta see naine on keda himustada tohid (olles kindel, et ta lubab Sul mõelda neid mõtteid)9 March 2016 10:31
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Sest pibel on möeldud neile kes eriti üldse elust aru ei saa, neile ei saa jumalaeest ju öelda, et muidu on ka lubatud, sest nad siis hakkaksid suvaliselt ringi magama, arusaamata, et see maailma olulisem tegu on mida mees teha saab, päris usklikul see niigi elementaarne9 March 2016 10:30
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Loodame jah, muidu läheks veel keerulisemaks,9 March 2016 10:29
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Ei , seks on lubatud ka enne abielu9 March 2016 10:29
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Ma soovitan Sul oma Naise silmadesse hoopis teistmoodi vaatama hakata kui koju lähed, ja vaata kas Näed Seal jumalat või ei.. kuita enam usaldab Su silmi9 March 2016 10:28
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
mis osa siin ekstreemne on? See, et mehel POLE õigus seksiks v?9 March 2016 10:28
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
On olemas mõni v?
On Mõni mees MITTE loodud läbi Naise v=?
Naised OMA KÕHUS saavad inimesi luua.. hmm.. sounds like in topic to me9 March 2016 10:26
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
KAUGELE? Räägime Seksist ja Naisest,
Kui enam kristlikumat teemat Sa tead?9 March 2016 10:26
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Judaismi osas: http://www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm
Ku iseda tänapäeva feministid ainult teaksid, siis nad jookseksid piibliga ringi, mitte palganõudegahttp://www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm
9 March 2016 10:26
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Mees ei tihtinud kaugele reisidagi, kui see naise seksi õigust rikkus, see Judaism 1019 March 2016 10:24
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
jah, ja mis Sa arvad, et Judaism on Patriarhaatlik v?
Puhtalt Matriarhaatlik ju,
Neil isegi kirjas, MEHEL EI OLE ÕIGUST SEKSILE, SEE AINULT NAISE ÕIGUS9 March 2016 10:24
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
jah, inimesele anti lõpus võimalus, Naise loal, läbi naise ennast paljundada ja proovida iseseisvaks, Naisele vääriliseks abiliseks kurjuse vastu võitlemise tööriistaks ja armastuse genereeriaks kasvada, areneda
siiamaani, mis arvad kui hästi õnnestunud on, kui mehe CV välja võtta? Kui palju teisi mehi keskmiselt päevas korrale kutsud ?9 March 2016 10:23
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
eriti veel SELLE meie maailma siin, jeerum,9 March 2016 10:22
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Maailma loomine ei tekitanud Naisvaimu9 March 2016 10:21
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Nagu ka Taimetoit on olulne osa usu arusaamast, järgmine tase.9 March 2016 10:21
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Ikka arusaad elementaarsest, et ristiusu aluspind, on Matriarhaalne, ehk Emajärgne9 March 2016 10:20
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
kurb küll9 March 2016 10:19
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
ma räägin millegist olulisemast jah9 March 2016 10:19
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Misajast peale kirstus naistsoost on ? ( She / Her )9 March 2016 10:18
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
oluline osa arengust jääks puudu ,sest ta ennast siis naise tasemele paneks ja ka siin hakkaks igast suuri asju poolearuga tegema, nagu ajaloost näha on olnud ainult nende meeste puhul kes näpuotsaga läbi naise endale saanud tarkust ja jõudu
ega ei ela ka ühtegi võimast deemoni ega sarvikut, ilma naiseta9 March 2016 10:18
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Ning kuna Naine nii suuremeelne, ja mees nii väiksemeelne, siis ainuke võimalus kuidas ebakindlat meest panna arenema suuruse suunas, on teda kõige kõrgematega siin kõrvuti panna ja samas selgitada talle naise väiksust, sest kui ta arvaks ja aru ainult naise suurusest saaks, siis ei toimuks mitte areng vaid tühipaljas kummardamine, kummardamisest aga pole naisele miskit kasu, kui see arengut takistab9 March 2016 10:16
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Kuidas nüüd paremini mõtled?9 March 2016 10:14
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
nii,
Ja miks Sa seda kirjutasid, mida Sa sellest nüüd arvad ja kuidas Sa seda infot protsessid ?
Mis kasutegur on? Oli ?9 March 2016 10:14
Margus Meigo replied to Roosi Raudsepp's comment.
Ma praegu vaidlen tulises vaidluses Kristluse gruppis,
Jeesuse olemuse ja naise üle, kas võime hiljem või soovid praegu ?
Jeesuse olemuse ja naise üle, kas võime hiljem või soovid praegu ?
9 March 2016 10:13
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Tarkus on Naine, ja Tarkus oli Jumalaga, enne Maailma loomist9 March 2016 10:12
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Just, kui ingliskeeleset tõlget vaatad või Heebria jms, siis saad aru, et tegu on Naisega9 March 2016 10:12
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Kui Jeesus on jumal, siis olen mina ka, ja Punkt.
(aga ma pole ju, rohkem kui see mis otsustatud olema vajalik)9 March 2016 10:11
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Jah, sellepärast me teamegi, et asjad on VÄGA mitte samad.
Tead, et jumalaga on võimalik kohtuda ka eksju9 March 2016 10:11
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Miks pidi Loomine Probleem olema ? Miks targad arvavad, et iga asi on probleemiga seotud?
Missa arvad, et siis nagu jumal plaanis juba ette, et tekitas need vägistamised ja tapmised ise siin v? Ei olnud nii.
Kui kõik nii oleks, siis on asi suht robotlik ja vähesema mõttega.
ja kuigi, teatud mõttes paljud hinged kes päästetud,elavad läbi seda programmi, mis need valud läbi töötleb ja näitab, et ta Paradiisi sündides aru saaks mis on olnud, ja mida tegema peab .. siis see ei tähenda, et halbu asju oleks ette planeeritud ja sisestatud loomisesse,
lihtsalt teatud valesi asju omavahel kokku lastes, need tekitavad asju mida pole vaja. Sh. kui anda poolearulisele liialt tarkust9 March 2016 10:10
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Mändmets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Saab alati küsida, kui vajadust. Ja siis uskuda, vastavalt ajaloole kui ausalt kegi rääkinud on9 March 2016 10:07
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
"Meelis Vesi:
Kui ma täna kirjutan, mida tegin 1 märtsil ja homme sellest, mida tegin 1.veebruaril, ei tähenda see, et homme kirjutatu oleks vale, kuna varasematest sündmustest tuleb varem kirjutada.. Kirjutada võib ühtaegu tänastest ja ka väga ammustest sündmustest"
Mida Sa selle all mõtlesid?
Oleneb kes ja miks kirjutab, kas kirjutab see kes algset mõtet teab või see kes järgnevaid, möödunuid ja tulevasi sündmusi tõlgendab ,
ja vahest tõlgendatakse päris hästi, eriti kui õige vaimu abil teha kes Teab9 March 2016 10:05
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Mis lõiku Sa sealt mõtlesid ?9 March 2016 10:02
Margus Meigo replied to Koit Kranig's comment.
Group: Kristlased
"Kristuse" kui sellise arusaama (ehk seadus, reeglistik, mõtle Miks ja Kuidas toimima hakkab, algkood), mis Kristusesse ja Jeesusesse oli sisestatud, mis on elementaarsed arusaamad ja teadmised, igal väiksel tüdrukul ja naisel, eriti vanal ajal.
Tänapäeval vaja dedoxy teha suts, et argivahe õigesti tööle hakkaks9 March 2016 10:01
Margus Meigo replied to Koit Kranig's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Mis asi see läbi kristuse Sul loodi? Mis peatükki sa Silmas pead, anna siia9 March 2016 10:00
Margus Meigo replied to Koit Kranig's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Miks seda MEIE inimeste alginstruktsiooni vaja on ??9 March 2016 10:00
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+17&version=OJB;CJBhttps://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+17&version=OJB%3BCJB
9 March 2016 09:58
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
nad ei vihja midagi ,räägitakse suht otse alustuseks, piiblis, vihjamised on järgmine aste siis kui esimesest aru saadud on9 March 2016 09:57
Margus Meigo replied to Koit Kranig's comment.
Group: Kristlased
küll aga on meil instruktsioonid millest päris lihtne aru saada, mida siin selles maailma olukorras kus oleme, ja kuhu meid tõmmatakse, ka mitte heas mõttes, et kuidas nendest õigesse kohta uuesti välja saada ja seda teha mida kogu loomingu ja olendite jaoks vaja9 March 2016 09:56
Margus Meigo replied to Koit Kranig's comment.
Group: Kristlased
ei tea kelle kaudu seda maailma luuakse kui Pühavaimu,
ja kolm ainsus ise juba, see sõna on oxymoron
loomise juures oli veel palju liike, olendeid ja asutajaid, Väga palju, kui siin hakata kelkima kes juures oli ja kes polnud, Meid igaljuhul ei olnud minu mäletamist mööda9 March 2016 09:55
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Mändmets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
mina küll, varsti hakkan saama, ehk.9 March 2016 09:54
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Mändmets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
ikka saad aru miks Jeesus tehti ja Kristus v?9 March 2016 09:53
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Mändmets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
ja mis ta enne tegi, mis ta ülesanne siis oli meelis ?9 March 2016 09:53
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
Group: Kristlased
mis ta seal jures huvitav tegi, juhendas vanapappi v?9 March 2016 09:53
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
kui me vaid lubame, siis on rohkem9 March 2016 09:52
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Robot, Inimene ja Jeesus on sarnasemad omavahel kui Jumal üheski nendega, olgugi, et ta pühavaimuga me kõigi südames ja meeltes9 March 2016 09:52
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
ei ole, palun rahune maha,
sellised kommunistlikud ja rooma valeõpetused likvideerida aitame koos Protestikirikuusu aluskividega kus arvatakse, et tegu pole oluline,
kui huupi annab veel asju enda laiskuse kasuks tõlgendada9 March 2016 09:51
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Kus sa sellise jutu võtsid, et Jeesus on ise enda looja ?9 March 2016 09:50
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
ei jeesus ei ole Jumal
ta on heal juhul samal tasemel jumal kui Norra Jumalad või India Jumalad, või osati samm rohkem kuna rohkem kaitstud kuid isikliku kogemuse järgi samm vähem sest ta alles asus toimetama neis asjudes9 March 2016 09:50
Margus Meigo replied to Koit Kranig's comment.
Group: Kristlased
täitsa veider miks Jeesust sarnastatakse Loojaga
see suht kuri õpetus sest teeb selge ohtliku lõhe jumala ja poja ja inimeste vahele, rääkimata mehest ja naisest9 March 2016 09:49
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
ja Jeesus või olla jahveh kuid mitte Vägede Jumal Jehoova9 March 2016 09:48
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Naissugu oli ikkagi enne Maailma Loomist, proverbs 8:249 March 2016 09:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lihtsustamiseks viimane saade arvutisse laadimiseks (vajuta siin korra lihtsalt ja Save As..MP3) : http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/mp3/igihaljas_inimene/New1.php?failinimi=160304_Kass_ja_oobik_MalleParn_(ajatu).mp3
9 March 2016 08:40
Margus Meigo replied to Roosi Raudsepp's comment.
Arusaadav, sellepärast ütlengi, et selleks pead oma soovi Elus hoidma ja leidma mehe kes seda arvutitehnikat Sul näitab, kui nad kasutuna on (mehed) ja ei soovi aidata, siis kanna maha. (ainult siis tekib ruumi meeste jaoks keda huvitad)
Soovid minuga õppida?
Soovid minuga õppida?
9 March 2016 08:38
Margus Meigo replied to Roosi Raudsepp's comment.
Miks nii sellise mõttega, et Sina vabandama peaksid?
See Loodud Sinule Sinu enda tugevndamiseks ju Kallis Naine (kes erinevalt enamusest, on suutnud kirjutada pikemalt..)
See Loodud Sinule Sinu enda tugevndamiseks ju Kallis Naine (kes erinevalt enamusest, on suutnud kirjutada pikemalt..)
9 March 2016 08:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(algse tähenduse sarnane, täpne sõnastus jõudis minna melest)
9 March 2016 08:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
UsupuhtaNaise sõnu kes kõik need mehed samale kaalule saab panna kergelt:
http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1835%3Aigihaljas-inimene&catid=21%3Aarhiiv&Itemid=1
Mehed, ka targad muidu omas alas:
http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1824%3Aobjektiiv&catid=21%3Aarhiiv&Itemid=1
Sh. saates eriaegadel ka inimesed:
Ülo Vooglaid, Vello Salo, Veiko Vihuri, Arvo Sirendi, Varro Vooglaid, Einar Laigna, Lauri Vahtre, Aleksander Laane, Jaak Valge, Mart Helme, Priit Sibul, Maksim Rogalski, Jaak Madison, Priit Hõbemägi, Lauri Beekmann, Arne Hiob, Toivo Tänasuu, Imre Mürk, Artur Talvik, Marica Lillemets, Patric Göransson, Urmas Reinsalu, Tiina Veismann, Kalev Roosiväli, Einar Eiland, Vahur Luhtsalu, Mati Hint, Sirje Kiivit, Priit Sibul, Nadeþda Andrejeva, Tõnu Lehtsaar
http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1835%3Aigihaljas-inimene&catid=21%3Aarhiiv&Itemid=1
Mehed, ka targad muidu omas alas:
http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1824%3Aobjektiiv&catid=21%3Aarhiiv&Itemid=1
Sh. saates eriaegadel ka inimesed:
Ülo Vooglaid, Vello Salo, Veiko Vihuri, Arvo Sirendi, Varro Vooglaid, Einar Laigna, Lauri Vahtre, Aleksander Laane, Jaak Valge, Mart Helme, Priit Sibul, Maksim Rogalski, Jaak Madison, Priit Hõbemägi, Lauri Beekmann, Arne Hiob, Toivo Tänasuu, Imre Mürk, Artur Talvik, Marica Lillemets, Patric Göransson, Urmas Reinsalu, Tiina Veismann, Kalev Roosiväli, Einar Eiland, Vahur Luhtsalu, Mati Hint, Sirje Kiivit, Priit Sibul, Nadeþda Andrejeva, Tõnu Lehtsaar
http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1835%3Aigihaljas-inimene&catid=21%3Aarhiiv&Itemid=1
9 March 2016 08:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
bastards was not able to hold Her down
"Merian documented, many years before the naturalists of the time, the life cycles of butterflies, moths, and other insects. Her work is exquisite from an aesthetic perspective, but what interests me more is that as a woman in the late seventeenth and early eighteenth centuries, she was able to make scientific contributions that would have been impossible in virtually any other field, simply by virtue of using the specimens from her own garden. She eventually traveled to Surinam to study the brilliantly colored insects of the steamy jungle, but that was after her interests had been firmly set. Although she, like many other women scientists and naturalists, faced opposition for her unfeminine activities, the accessibility of her subjects meant that she could keep doing the work she loved."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcGEsRqyipc
"Merian documented, many years before the naturalists of the time, the life cycles of butterflies, moths, and other insects. Her work is exquisite from an aesthetic perspective, but what interests me more is that as a woman in the late seventeenth and early eighteenth centuries, she was able to make scientific contributions that would have been impossible in virtually any other field, simply by virtue of using the specimens from her own garden. She eventually traveled to Surinam to study the brilliantly colored insects of the steamy jungle, but that was after her interests had been firmly set. Although she, like many other women scientists and naturalists, faced opposition for her unfeminine activities, the accessibility of her subjects meant that she could keep doing the work she loved."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcGEsRqyipc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcGEsRqyipc
9 March 2016 05:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
narkoosi nagu noalaeval panna ehk aga..
9 March 2016 05:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mul endal ka nii papsi kui ka empsi juures koeraliblikad jms jõulu ja jaanuari kuus toas lendlevad.. . jagasin küll moosi pudru kõrvalt aga ega vist päris head teamdised kuidas nad kevadeni elus hoida puuduvad, nende eluiga ju..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSxcF4BaGck&index=28&list=PLsXelNZnKcxlfVqlsbiV3nTYUas3TgHjP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSxcF4BaGck&index=28&list=PLsXelNZnKcxlfVqlsbiV3nTYUas3TgHjP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSxcF4BaGck&index=28&list=PLsXelNZnKcxlfVqlsbiV3nTYUas3TgHjP
9 March 2016 05:25
Margus Meigo replied to Roosi Raudsepp's comment.
Naistele kel meelde jääb, kes nad on neil jääb kestma
kes unustab naiseliku eesõiguse selle heaolu laseb lesta
kes unustab naiseliku eesõiguse selle heaolu laseb lesta
9 March 2016 05:07
Margus Meigo replied to Roosi Raudsepp's comment.
oskad osakd,
selleks on Sul soov ja mehel tegu
kui ta Su soovi teha ei taha, siis jäta maha
selleks on Sul soov ja mehel tegu
kui ta Su soovi teha ei taha, siis jäta maha
9 March 2016 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Kaasik's post.
Group: Kristlased
Elu parandamine9 March 2016 04:27
Margus Meigo replied to Ardi Tedrekin's comment.
Group: Kristlased
pea meeles, et Naine oli ammu enne maailma ja mängis koos jumalaga Õpetussõnad 8:24 ja selle ümber...9 March 2016 04:25
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kas Sa tõesti kõiki küsimusi ise ei tea mida küsid?9 March 2016 04:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Nime ajalugu:
"The name Mark or Marcus was one of the most popular names of the old world, especially after emperor Marcus Aurelius instituted the Marcianus, which means "of Marcus" and which denoted a priest who performed the sacred rites instituted in honor of the emperor Marcus Aurelius.
*The Biblical Mark, however, was almost certainly a Jew, and his name was undoubtedly associated with that of Judas Maccabeus (from the Hebrew noun maqqebet, meaning hammer), the famous second century leader of the Maccabean revolt against the Romans."
https://www.quora.com/Is-Mark-a-Christian-name-or-Jewish-namehttps://www.quora.com/Is-Mark-a-Christian-name-or-Jewish-name
9 March 2016 03:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
enda laualill ka
http://human.hol.es/no%20nii%20on..et%20kuivab.gif
http://human.hol.es/no%20nii%20on..et%20kuivab.gif
8 March 2016 08:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.
https://media.giphy.com/media/SXmoR4AmYXS48/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/SXmoR4AmYXS48/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/SXmoR4AmYXS48/giphy.gif
8 March 2016 07:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kaks sammu tagasi ja üks kõrvale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iArXv64tCJA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iArXv64tCJA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iArXv64tCJA
8 March 2016 06:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Topelt Leping https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDpum5sLvmk&index=23&list=PLsXelNZnKcxlfVqlsbiV3nTYUas3TgHjP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDpum5sLvmk&index=23&list=PLsXelNZnKcxlfVqlsbiV3nTYUas3TgHjP
8 March 2016 05:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and whatever it is
in who ever, just explaining, as to many people assume it is legal to think "i not get what you say so i must be right"
like really ?
--
lihtsalt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTL74BLNai4
in who ever, just explaining, as to many people assume it is legal to think "i not get what you say so i must be right"
like really ?
--
lihtsalt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTL74BLNai4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTL74BLNai4
8 March 2016 05:17
Margus Meigo commented on Del Hodd's photo.
okey that is just creepy to share something like that
as there got spirit inside a picture
as there got spirit inside a picture
8 March 2016 05:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Galactic Federation of Light
and if i go t o: https://www.youtube.com/user/QuasiLuminous/discussion
i get "Comments currently unavailable. "
... so no one of our kind would be able to point questions in to there about... WHY no original videos..
Who produces that and for what reason ?
To hide some of the real ones that have been on camera right ? ... but who are they..8 March 2016 05:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Galactic Federation of Light
funny thing, when i try to post a comment on this YT video there, on that link i get "Unknown error."
.. bastards really do not like my comments8 March 2016 04:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Galactic Federation of Light
and about green eyes, always ask from a communists, the original video source, that they for some strange reason, ALWAYS forget to link under video, should that be a MOST elementary thing, fro a proof, to go and make EVERYONE HD download original video from a source them self and look in their computer ?8 March 2016 04:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Galactic Federation of Light
As bible told: look things by their fruits
... analyze her lyrics and video details compared to average pop ... and also her private videos She uploaded before penetrating Hollywood .. i think i even got a video where She show upper class robot children... this was really chilly...8 March 2016 04:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Galactic Federation of Light
Del Hodd No, not the bad kind, at all8 March 2016 04:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Galactic Federation of Light
many hard hits on Her life (it is about thanking her sister and stopping Katy to make suicide.. realizing You need to serve word not yourself )
wonder how much more heavy and simple proofs and words people need to know who is working for Good side of proper iluminati the "OTHERSIDE" aka the side of Love
compared to the ones who try to get You directed away from a love and values.
She has most genius simple creation and some how some pentagram holders still manage to run their mouth as She would do anything more then exposing, explaining, leaking and enlightening. Informing. Teaching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUS5blKRe8shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUS5blKRe8s
8 March 2016 04:40
Margus Meigo commented on Del Hodd's post.
Group: Galactic Federation of Light
luckily he was not able to break Her soul for ever .. and some day when he comes to a interview he will get response "Sorry, Katy told us to tell you to wank off, rest on peace! "
Well... if one would only know how real in real levels most of all is what She song about...8 March 2016 04:32
Margus Meigo commented on Del Hodd's post.
Group: Galactic Federation of Light
Man can not be alright in head if he leaves Katy Perry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rRQBeNRyMkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rRQBeNRyMk
8 March 2016 04:30
Margus Meigo replied to Del Hodd's comment.
Group: Galactic Federation of Light
they are actually vegetarian now
chocolate gets them to high8 March 2016 04:22
Margus Meigo replied to Remy LeBeau's comment.
Group: Galactic Federation of Light
Yea can You imagine to have arrogance to look and to eyes of these ones
and say "we consider your offer"
will get back to you on that...8 March 2016 04:17
Margus Meigo commented on Del Hodd's post.
Group: Galactic Federation of Light
Well, i guess You can fill in Your application but make sure8 March 2016 04:10
Margus Meigo commented on Jansa Väike's post.
Loodame, et ei kuku
8 March 2016 04:01
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
ning kahe olemasolevus on väga kaheldav
8 March 2016 03:46
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Ja eri naisliikidele ja emaste sortidele
8 March 2016 03:45
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
see sama hea küsimus, et kui on pudel vett, aga me ei tea kas see on vesi seal sees, siis kuidas see maitseb
küll te ikka genereerite asju mida pole mõtet aga neid asju mis defineerib meie olemuse suuna... neid eriti ei julgeta vist uurida?
Sest siis tekivad kohustused... ja peab maha jätma mitmeid ebapraktilisi sõltuvusi
küll te ikka genereerite asju mida pole mõtet aga neid asju mis defineerib meie olemuse suuna... neid eriti ei julgeta vist uurida?
Sest siis tekivad kohustused... ja peab maha jätma mitmeid ebapraktilisi sõltuvusi
8 March 2016 03:43
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Vesi's comment.
see sama hea küsimus, et kui on pudel vett, aga me ei tea kas see on vesi seal sees, siis kuidas see maitseb
küll te ikka genereerite asju mida pole mõtet aga neid asju mille vastused toovad meid meie endi olemusele ligemale... neideriti ei julgeta vist uurida?
küll te ikka genereerite asju mida pole mõtet aga neid asju mille vastused toovad meid meie endi olemusele ligemale... neideriti ei julgeta vist uurida?
8 March 2016 03:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ei ole nii
ja see pole mitte arvates, vaid "ei" kui 0, mitte 2
ja see pole mitte arvates, vaid "ei" kui 0, mitte 2
8 March 2016 03:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i like discipline
like everyone getting proper clean weed practices to use for for a good reason not just for boredom to get messed up.
Newer understood the point of try to get messed up when you got a possible to get high (or even stoned, at times)
like everyone getting proper clean weed practices to use for for a good reason not just for boredom to get messed up.
Newer understood the point of try to get messed up when you got a possible to get high (or even stoned, at times)
8 March 2016 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
there is no running water in the house, jet
8 March 2016 02:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
god s pay
perhaps also
perhaps also
8 March 2016 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
friend give it to me as it is middle of construction so no one is using it for a moment and he trust am not doing nothing bad in there because we travel long time ago and am have fixed hes company computers in past
8 March 2016 02:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"We believe that the government should be providing homes for the homeless, not handcuffs."
man, maybe someone really needs handcuffs
they are like "crap, we cant get any no more... arrh that bill.."
man, maybe someone really needs handcuffs
they are like "crap, we cant get any no more... arrh that bill.."
8 March 2016 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on Roberto Fox's post.
"We believe that kicking someone for limping when it is you who cut off their leg is shameless and cruel."
8 March 2016 02:12
Margus Meigo commented on Lill Ekene's post.
Group: Sõbralik Eesti.
Millise vaatevinkli poolt me siis oleme, keda esindame ?7 March 2016 19:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/660938/koondamine-lopetas-hirmu-elu-ees
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/660938/koondamine-lopetas-hirmu-elu-ees
http://www.ohtuleht.ee/660938/koondamine-lopetas-hirmu-elu-ees
7 March 2016 11:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Well, they all good, but the black little one on 6:20 and the one solving thugs on minute 4 is something that make you think "was that for real?"
7 March 2016 05:26
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
at least priority is on place proper
these grannies must be kept tap on.. next thing u know they start to synthesis psychedelics
these grannies must be kept tap on.. next thing u know they start to synthesis psychedelics
7 March 2016 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on Mike Jagow's post.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
but it is true7 March 2016 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
kui juba laste jagamiseks läks siis meeles pidada et..
https://www.facebook.com/1536715353313690/photos/a.1536718573313368.1073741828.1536715353313690/1538229463162279/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/1536715353313690/photos/a.1536718573313368.1073741828.1536715353313690/1538229463162279/?type=3&theater
7 March 2016 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
That statistics cant look good
7 March 2016 02:23
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
Kas uuesti kadus...?
7 March 2016 02:21
Margus Meigo commented on Vahur Armastuse Kahur's post.
fak isegi hiina saab selle keelamisega hakkama ja te peate siin Facebooki feedis seda jagama,
See rikub mõnel nädalaks elu ära, seda ka mõtlete v,
või mõne lapse kogu alguse, kui seda esimest korda siin näeb
olge ikka ettevaatlikumad ja ärge selliseid pilte jagage, on võimalik sedsi ,et pilti ju ei näita
See rikub mõnel nädalaks elu ära, seda ka mõtlete v,
või mõne lapse kogu alguse, kui seda esimest korda siin näeb
olge ikka ettevaatlikumad ja ärge selliseid pilte jagage, on võimalik sedsi ,et pilti ju ei näita
7 March 2016 02:20
Margus Meigo commented on FailArmy's video.
FAIL? What You want he would have to drive ower a car and kill a children or who ever is in a car 100% when hitting that car
6 March 2016 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i do kind of promis to romans as well... that when on our world.. then.. even romans will do as must
6 March 2016 07:13
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's photo.
eks sa siis proovi kui te kõik minema jooksete
6 March 2016 04:02
Margus Meigo commented on Assar Järvekülg's post.
Group: Vasakpoolne liikumine
Nu enamus neist pooltest kes meelega ei käinud tuleks poliitikast maha ka arvata igaveseks5 March 2016 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on Assar Järvekülg's post.
Group: Vasakpoolne liikumine
Norm tsik! *
Tulebki vilistada5 March 2016 23:00
Margus Meigo replied to Tony Doyle's comment.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
many of these things are clearly really needed, specially body hair5 March 2016 22:55
Margus Meigo replied to Herman Jürgens's comment.
Hmm, väga ühene vastus,
sellele tõele peab mõtlema..
sellele tõele peab mõtlema..
5 March 2016 18:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Midagi mis peab põhinema reaalsel alusel ja suunal, alguse ja lõpu eesmärgiga, või lihtsalt, mingi uus segav mõteterägastik ilma tõe soovita, et rohkem arvutada ja arutada oleks tühja
5 March 2016 18:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kas Sinu jaoks on filosoofia reaalne või lihtsalt mingite hüpoteetiliste mõtete konstruct?
5 March 2016 18:43
Margus Meigo replied to Roberto Fox's comment.
wel, they have for sure women work in there then 1%
5 March 2016 18:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so i protested and demand to stay longer in station and they threaten to throw me out or "arrest me...." and then they got kind of confused after the sentence as they wanted to arrest me for i am demanding my self to be arrested
.. even smoking some cannabis pipe (that they give back to me) in front lobby did not help me to get some one to pay attention to me, they just had agreed to ignore me
what a bastards :D
but good bastards still,
in some other country or station they would have done whole another work on these kinds .. but You have to feel what spirit and vibe is on what station.. some are proper dark., and they keep cops them self as hostage in there under dictatorship, some other ones are like christian Sunday school
but in all of them have some snakes going around with a tie around a neck and talking faggoty way some importance about what they going to take and what not being all upset about the situation they know nothing about
.. even smoking some cannabis pipe (that they give back to me) in front lobby did not help me to get some one to pay attention to me, they just had agreed to ignore me
what a bastards :D
but good bastards still,
in some other country or station they would have done whole another work on these kinds .. but You have to feel what spirit and vibe is on what station.. some are proper dark., and they keep cops them self as hostage in there under dictatorship, some other ones are like christian Sunday school
but in all of them have some snakes going around with a tie around a neck and talking faggoty way some importance about what they going to take and what not being all upset about the situation they know nothing about
5 March 2016 18:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
after rejecting me lawyer excuse letter, because it had one lie in, that made me look better,
they really got serious about i having something wrong with me
they really got serious about i having something wrong with me
5 March 2016 18:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But yes,... they need this sub police workers.. on street.. who keep telling how they kept their mouth shout and was all hard with cops and did not say a word.. etc to help to keep illusion alive...
When cops arrest me related to Amir Oister cards (bastards newer give it back to me, will get it back some day! :D ) .. then when i told all truth to them, after ordering a religious lawyer (as they asked what kind i want, so female religious one sounded like time spent well)
so they send me to psychiatrist as telling truth apparently in police station is something that is not normal thing to do
When cops arrest me related to Amir Oister cards (bastards newer give it back to me, will get it back some day! :D ) .. then when i told all truth to them, after ordering a religious lawyer (as they asked what kind i want, so female religious one sounded like time spent well)
so they send me to psychiatrist as telling truth apparently in police station is something that is not normal thing to do
5 March 2016 18:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I love when they make PR story's online abut how the can not access one one or another thing because of TrueCrypt or Apple tricks...
Yeah, kids, average officer with a donuts level who have not given tools can not with their hired around the corner hacker-boy
but now.. do anyone REALLY think that we can keep anything secret in a computer... fro ma someone.. who we should be afraid most?
Lets grow up.. and yes, from average full disk encryption (that is basic installation option and hardware level integrated in to old IBM s even.. yes.. that can help You to keep safe from average street criminals, as long they will kidnap your loved one or twist your fingers a bit for a password,while keeping you under influence of easily available chemicals that make You talk.)
Yeah, kids, average officer with a donuts level who have not given tools can not with their hired around the corner hacker-boy
but now.. do anyone REALLY think that we can keep anything secret in a computer... fro ma someone.. who we should be afraid most?
Lets grow up.. and yes, from average full disk encryption (that is basic installation option and hardware level integrated in to old IBM s even.. yes.. that can help You to keep safe from average street criminals, as long they will kidnap your loved one or twist your fingers a bit for a password,while keeping you under influence of easily available chemicals that make You talk.)
5 March 2016 18:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
we kind of forget, that encryption is something that is from a computer world.. to a human world, to trick us to put more trust in to machine then in a a Wife
5 March 2016 18:26
Margus Meigo replied to Roberto Fox's comment.
except the ones who value human more then a system
5 March 2016 18:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aga ootan siis pikemat vastust põhipostituse osas mis Su seinale Su loal pandud sai
Tänades: Kollektiiv!
Tänades: Kollektiiv!
5 March 2016 17:51
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Kes on Meelis Vesi ?
(nii tema enda, teiste tema sarnaste kui ka Looja jaoks? Kindlasti täide ja parasiitide, pääsukeste ja koduloomade jaoks oled sa midagi muud, kuid võtame alustuseks Sina ise ja siis Su Looja,
kasu ja kahju ja olemuse aspektid siis... kui nii võib öelda, küsida)
(nii tema enda, teiste tema sarnaste kui ka Looja jaoks? Kindlasti täide ja parasiitide, pääsukeste ja koduloomade jaoks oled sa midagi muud, kuid võtame alustuseks Sina ise ja siis Su Looja,
kasu ja kahju ja olemuse aspektid siis... kui nii võib öelda, küsida)
5 March 2016 17:36
Margus Meigo replied to Mart Laisk's comment.
5+
5 March 2016 17:33
Margus Meigo replied to Mart Laisk's comment.
kõik mis pole Naise, Looduse ja Usuelu suunda (usuelu, Mille sees Shamaanilik, Matriarhaatlik, Kristliku ideaali suunaline)
Suurem osa sellest kohe vabalt võid kirjutada ebameeldivate robot ja deemon tulnukate töökeksonna heaks töötamise programideks
nii et muuda muuda... aga kui vähimalgi määral, see eemaldub teise keha lõhnast, maapinna niiskusest ja nende väärtuste suunalisest õigustundest, siis koheselt mõtle veel paar sammu juurde, muidu pannakse koks kaela ja lips ka veel.. ja sis oma tarkusega oma enda rahvast pannakse eelkõige hävitama selle asemel, et puhtamaks kasvatada
Suurem osa sellest kohe vabalt võid kirjutada ebameeldivate robot ja deemon tulnukate töökeksonna heaks töötamise programideks
nii et muuda muuda... aga kui vähimalgi määral, see eemaldub teise keha lõhnast, maapinna niiskusest ja nende väärtuste suunalisest õigustundest, siis koheselt mõtle veel paar sammu juurde, muidu pannakse koks kaela ja lips ka veel.. ja sis oma tarkusega oma enda rahvast pannakse eelkõige hävitama selle asemel, et puhtamaks kasvatada
5 March 2016 17:31
Margus Meigo replied to Mart Laisk's comment.
vaata, et ta väga tulnukate, inimvastste suundade osasse ei suunduks
5 March 2016 17:28
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Jah
5 March 2016 17:27
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Kas see käis Sinu enda suunas, vabandusena, vihjena ?
selljuhul vabandus vastu võetud
selljuhul vabandus vastu võetud
5 March 2016 17:27
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Ega ilu siis vanuse Pärast ei kao
5 March 2016 16:44
Margus Meigo commented on Piret Metsala's post.
Mis mõttes kunsti osas VÄGA suur konkurents, sest kas sa pole näinud väärkunsti tõusu viimasel ajal.. kus asjadel ei ole tähendust ega kindlaid suundi ja mõtteid ja selgitusi ega suundasi, just suunda polegi ega mõtet.. ja nimetavad seda kunstiks.. et hävitada kunsti... see vägagi konkureerib kunstiga... arvestatavalt praegu
5 March 2016 16:40
Margus Meigo replied to Arvid Kask's comment.
mingi inimene jurba et mida talle meentuab nii kõrge tehnoloogia kui piibli valmistamine.. selline asi üldse, kui mingi inimene võtab kriitilise seisundi piibli osas, olemata ise ühegi galaktilise federatsiooni või arvestava maailma liider, .. see nii hale kurb vaadata, et ei sõnni muud kui põlastust selles suunas välja valada
5 March 2016 16:38
Margus Meigo replied to Arvid Kask's comment.
Ants - see mida keegi inimene meenutab, meenutab purjus inimeste joru
5 March 2016 16:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
peaksin järgmise kaadri ka siia panema, muidu arvatakse, et väga paha lõpp siia tuleb.
4 March 2016 08:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
võimalik
4 March 2016 08:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
got house 24 March 2016 03:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga just nii ja veelgi tehnilisemalt seda kõike tegelikult tehaksegi, ja meie ümber loodud paar muud segavat elementi, et armastuse mullis olles mitte märgataks, mis toimub.
Toimub aga see mis toimuma ei peaks, kui head nad teaks
Toimub aga see mis toimuma ei peaks, kui head nad teaks
4 March 2016 03:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Vaat kus on elementide hulk preestriasetäitjale pantud - teadlane-tehnik-silm-lips-kittel + see välimus
4 March 2016 03:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMeBtd8z9gohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMeBtd8z9go
4 March 2016 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on Bhupinder Singh Bedi's photo.
Wearing a tie and a slave man clothes is not for You,
You should Cure these kind of people, not promote for putting tie around the neck,
This is not a nice thing to do for a great man
You should Cure these kind of people, not promote for putting tie around the neck,
This is not a nice thing to do for a great man
3 March 2016 14:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Just see hetk tuli, öösel
kui järelkuulamisest ei leia kodulehelt, siis anna teada, ehk saan aidata üles leida
kui järelkuulamisest ei leia kodulehelt, siis anna teada, ehk saan aidata üles leida
3 March 2016 11:43
Margus Meigo commented on Silvya Taal's post.
Group: Seitsmenda päeva adventistid
Aga näe, keegi ei palka mind
ja tasuta ka tööle ei võta nii, et oma tööd teha saaksin3 March 2016 09:47
Margus Meigo replied to Tõnis Tulp's comment.
töötab enamuste inimeste jaoks maailmas
3 March 2016 09:21
Margus Meigo replied to Tõnis Tulp's comment.
ps: teine kliima on ka võimalik alternatiiv lahendus
3 March 2016 09:21
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's live video.
Yeah.. just got update from that time... https://www.facebook.com/1543934109237834/videos/1543935489237696
3 March 2016 07:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 March 2016 05:42
Margus Meigo commented on Javier Gold Ferrari's post.
Group: MicroState Nation New world Goverment(IGO) NNWG king Europe Javier I
I do like these national colors on head cover : )
http://pichoster.net/images/2016/03/03/Estonia_flag_anime.gif3 March 2016 05:41
Margus Meigo commented on Javier Gold Ferrari's post.
3 March 2016 05:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://pichoster.net/images/2016/03/03/Estonia_flag_anime.gif
http://pichoster.net/images/2016/03/03/Estonia_flag_anime.gif
3 March 2016 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Õnneks pole lipul ühtegi viisnurka peal, veel
http://pichoster.net/eGs
http://pichoster.net/eGs
http://pichoster.net/eGs
3 March 2016 03:30
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's photo.
Mõne kiriku seremoonia võiks samahästi sedasi välja näha:
https://www.facebook.com/228697947191691/photos/a.228722237189262.56462.228697947191691/1068170306577780/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/228697947191691/photos/a.228722237189262.56462.228697947191691/1068170306577780/?type=3&theater
3 March 2016 03:29
Margus Meigo commented on Rain Haugas's post.
mul ka praegu 2 kuni 7 kraadi toas
3 March 2016 03:27
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's photo.
asi vist pole ristimises, vaid ka tuleb muretseda millises kirikus ja mis moodi milliseid vanemaid ristiti?
Kas on sama kui luteri või jehoovade... õigeusu, katolikude või hoopis mone teiste protestantide poolt ristitakse?
Need eeskirjad, selged selgitused olgu Vatikani ja Õigeusukiriku vahel ära arutatud ja selgeks tehtud ja KÕIKIDE kirikute seintele pandud ja need sektid kes selle vastu on eraldi ära märgitud, avalikult, ning valitsuste lehtedel olgu nende asutuste list üleval kes potensiaalselt kiriku nime all hoopis kurjust toodab
Kas on sama kui luteri või jehoovade... õigeusu, katolikude või hoopis mone teiste protestantide poolt ristitakse?
Need eeskirjad, selged selgitused olgu Vatikani ja Õigeusukiriku vahel ära arutatud ja selgeks tehtud ja KÕIKIDE kirikute seintele pandud ja need sektid kes selle vastu on eraldi ära märgitud, avalikult, ning valitsuste lehtedel olgu nende asutuste list üleval kes potensiaalselt kiriku nime all hoopis kurjust toodab
3 March 2016 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's photo.
Mu ema ka ristiti ja ta sellest kõike muud kui head näinud.
Kuid kes jumalat teab.. ehk mitu generatsiooni hiljem on kasu..
Kuid kes jumalat teab.. ehk mitu generatsiooni hiljem on kasu..
3 March 2016 03:22
Margus Meigo replied to Tiia Kustassoo's comment.
aga kogemata siia ei tulnud vist.. :)
3 March 2016 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Saar's post.
Nu tuleviku maailmas see täiesti normaalne valik millega peab arvestama
3 March 2016 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Saar's post.
sh. siis igast käe ja elektroonika kotid
3 March 2016 01:58
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Saar's post.
Üldse see oleks võrratu kui saaks ühtegi tänavat näha tulevikus, kus inimesed ei tassi kaasas kotte.
Aga sellist aega kus mitut inimest ilma kotita päevajooksul kohtaksid.. seda eriti niipea veel juhtumas ei ole näinud..
Aga sellist aega kus mitut inimest ilma kotita päevajooksul kohtaksid.. seda eriti niipea veel juhtumas ei ole näinud..
3 March 2016 01:58
Margus Meigo commented on Alon Gabbay's photo.
3 March 2016 01:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Anyone who talks against Germany to try to bring parallel of free world.. can not know what are they talking about..
This was ONE instance,e someone REALLY try to make country free from bank control and brainwashing.. and you bring them up like that?
Why not talking about PENTAGRAM communist domination up to now.. that was then and is now... doing ... all the freedom taking.. and u not mention them on right terms..
This was ONE instance,e someone REALLY try to make country free from bank control and brainwashing.. and you bring them up like that?
Why not talking about PENTAGRAM communist domination up to now.. that was then and is now... doing ... all the freedom taking.. and u not mention them on right terms..
2 March 2016 23:34
Margus Meigo replied to Lisa Tappan's comment.
try that
https://www.facebook.com/1543934109237834/videos/1543935489237696
https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderEmerickJones/videos/10153960690238459/?ref=notif¬if_t=live_video
https://www.facebook.com/1543934109237834/videos/1543935489237696
https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderEmerickJones/videos/10153960690238459/?ref=notif¬if_t=live_video
2 March 2016 23:31
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's live video.
Extra copy of this video i was sent:
https://www.facebook.com/1543934109237834/videos/1543935489237696
https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderEmerickJones/videos/10153960690238459/?ref=notif¬if_t=live_video
https://www.facebook.com/1543934109237834/videos/1543935489237696
https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderEmerickJones/videos/10153960690238459/?ref=notif¬if_t=live_video
2 March 2016 23:23
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's live video.
Good the feed was keep open as planned, so You can hear what kind of joke that is for them.. and who was with him
2 March 2016 22:36
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's live video.
Luckily i have understood long time ago that One world Gov is only way to restore real freedom,
it is mentally sick to want in this Earth "separate orders" so we can keep communism alive and "demon-Grazy"
The communism trick IS to force us to keep Opponents alive. If You keep bacteria alive that makes You sick then You will be sick again, simple as that.
I have made long time ago, to be with a Nature, Women and a Bible
Even if that is for some The Cannabis Grow Bible
Not some cheap "lets start a war revolutions" directly from a Roman-Greeks and Homos and " Viking s "
Man who become famous by producing fake danger... seriously, we will meet in these days.
it is mentally sick to want in this Earth "separate orders" so we can keep communism alive and "demon-Grazy"
The communism trick IS to force us to keep Opponents alive. If You keep bacteria alive that makes You sick then You will be sick again, simple as that.
I have made long time ago, to be with a Nature, Women and a Bible
Even if that is for some The Cannabis Grow Bible
Not some cheap "lets start a war revolutions" directly from a Roman-Greeks and Homos and " Viking s "
Man who become famous by producing fake danger... seriously, we will meet in these days.
2 March 2016 22:35
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's live video.
So lets see Lax... What about Rapest Odin flow in East Europe.. ?
2 March 2016 22:21
Margus Meigo commented on Asso Puidet's post.
Kõlab paljulubavalt
2 March 2016 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Pede diktatuur on ammu juba olnud, enne seda aja arvamist,
lihtsalt kõikide grupide usust see arusaam pole veel läbi murdunud...
...
lihtsalt kõikide grupide usust see arusaam pole veel läbi murdunud...
...
2 March 2016 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on Bioneer.ee's link.
Jumaltänatud911 west
2 March 2016 16:26
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiine Mäss's photo.
Sinule ka imeline müstiline tartutagune mässarist metsahaldjas !
1 March 2016 20:50
Margus Meigo commented on Sind on märgatud, rassist's photo.
Muidugi Odin ja punased. .ma alati arvanud ,et need samad inimheaduse vastased , et kas polegi sõprusgrupid v?
1 March 2016 10:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Eks telegramm ka vajalik, palju elementaarset seal uueaja peenpunapropakanda lehel kirjas olnud mida isegi siin tavarahval ära ununema hakanud.
Siin osad isegi ei tea enam, et roosuhkur ja tehnline suhkur on erinevad asjad ja viimane pole mõeldud toiduks, see valge suhkur, et ega seda muidu valgeks surmaks kutsuta.1 March 2016 09:49
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
Muidugi eks nad selle info said küll vene propakanda kaudu, kuid jah, selliseid tuelmusi olevat Saksa sõjavägi Eestlaste kohta saanud, peaks ainult uurima välja miskeid algseid pabereid..
1 March 2016 09:44
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
saksasõjavägi olevat keskmiseks Eesti IQx mõõtnud teise maailmasõjaaegas 76
Norrakate ja Rootslaste info järgi mis neil on ja mille järgi nad Eestlasi vaatavad
Norrakate ja Rootslaste info järgi mis neil on ja mille järgi nad Eestlasi vaatavad
1 March 2016 09:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid kui kristlased oma seast selle igast veidruste üle tähtsutamise allapoole võtaksid .. ja põhilisele rõhku paneksid, siis ikka saaks nad õigesse austusesse , positisiooni uuesti..
kuid seni kuni lutereid ja potestant,e helleniste kes siin viikingitega koos, oodinlaste ja roomlastega inimesi poletasid ja kommunistlike ja homo kirikuid vorpisid hiljem.. kui need sama väärtuse tasemele panna kui päris usklikud.. siis seni pole kristlastel muud teha kui suud hoida suts.. kuni oma maja korda saab... samas.. ega enne ei saa kui häält tugevneb, õiges suunas
kuid seni kuni lutereid ja potestant,e helleniste kes siin viikingitega koos, oodinlaste ja roomlastega inimesi poletasid ja kommunistlike ja homo kirikuid vorpisid hiljem.. kui need sama väärtuse tasemele panna kui päris usklikud.. siis seni pole kristlastel muud teha kui suud hoida suts.. kuni oma maja korda saab... samas.. ega enne ei saa kui häält tugevneb, õiges suunas
1 March 2016 07:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 March 2016 07:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 March 2016 07:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja ärrituma hakanud vana, soovitus selle ateisti "sõpradele" mida neile öelda emaili peale, et mida juudi vana soovitas (sest oli arusaada, et prooviti Torast leida teiste vastast sallimatust)
Kuigi.. ilmselgelt on koerad paremad kui puudulikud inimesekehad kes aru pole saanud , et nad mehad.. ja mis mehad ja milleks.. (sis neidsaab milleks iganes trikitada tööle panna... ja nad saavad ilma morralideta panna tööle milleks iganes..)
Kuigi.. ilmselgelt on koerad paremad kui puudulikud inimesekehad kes aru pole saanud , et nad mehad.. ja mis mehad ja milleks.. (sis neidsaab milleks iganes trikitada tööle panna... ja nad saavad ilma morralideta panna tööle milleks iganes..)
1 March 2016 07:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 March 2016 07:49
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's post.
Group: NEW YORK
tunes are pyscdelic trippy nice1 March 2016 07:25
Margus Meigo commented on Thierry Aimar's post.
Group: NEW YORK
would have been more for more moiement1 March 2016 07:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1 March 2016 07:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M60FUPVtq9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M60FUPVtq9k
1 March 2016 06:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Üldiselt on inimesed ikkagi fantaasia vaesed, ma küll selliste fantastiliste pakkumiste peale oleks leidnud aega, et sügavamalt arutama hakata huvitava rassisti elulugu ja mõttekäiku
1 March 2016 06:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"you nose is bigger then mine! "
okey, see kaamera asi vist tundub päris, selle video lopu puhul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFOf1ezyfI
okey, see kaamera asi vist tundub päris, selle video lopu puhul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFOf1ezyfI
1 March 2016 06:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"i am more American then you jew!"
And as Rassist jokes, are on the fly, lets keep that up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWO7CMF5otY
And as Rassist jokes, are on the fly, lets keep that up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWO7CMF5otY
1 March 2016 05:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey, isegi ma ei läheks nii kaugele, see nii hullumeelne, et ajas naerma küll, eriti kuna nendesw osariikides on reaalne väimlaus, kuuli saada nendes osariikides, kahju, et kolmandat kaamerat polnud, nägemaks mis moodi see kaameramees seal kõrval oli.. et kes ja ... mis..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8t04muNIdw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8t04muNIdw
1 March 2016 05:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
inglise keele versioon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDipeDpECHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDipeDpECHA
1 March 2016 05:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Clan knows how to party"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2-6rafCakc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2-6rafCakc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2-6rafCakc
1 March 2016 05:39
Margus Meigo commented on Eva Lepik's post.
.D
1 March 2016 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Wau kui retro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgPygziOw6A
...okey, lõpp tundub suts maena.. "Ma tantsival neiul haaran kinni käest...Kuid pudeneb koost meid öösel sidunud roos..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgPygziOw6A
...okey, lõpp tundub suts maena.. "Ma tantsival neiul haaran kinni käest...Kuid pudeneb koost meid öösel sidunud roos..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgPygziOw6A
29 February 2016 18:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i did sleep last on something.. Saturday perhaps... so
29 February 2016 17:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey but then She lowers a bar, but still being a good slap humor:
"I like to get really drunk and propose on a first date. But now that I’m tied down to a permanent boyfriend I can’t do that any more, so I just scream ‘MARRY ME’ at regular intervals. My man complains these proposals are so random as to be totally meaningless. But this is the point of them. I love all the drama of an engagement but I’m not quite sure I want to be stuck with him for life.
Marriage, after all, has lost many of its advantages. We no longer need to get hitched in order to escape our parents’ home. And as for money — we tend to earn more than our suitors. With none of these inducements, why sign up to a lifetime of mediocre sex? After all, these days, if it doesn’t work out, we may be robbed of all our winnings in the divorce. A girl sees how much the X Factor judge Cheryl Fernandez-Versini seems likely to have to shell out and she shudders. "
- as lets be serious, if one realizes the spiritual seriousness of actual marriage (that can only happen between Women and man, ) that this is doorway for man soul, to a get with Her heart, step closer to everlasting life, and this is most likely only way there is possible,
unless there is some truth, that falling in love with a Jesus can have same outcome or some delirium in Sufi dancing and meditation or drugs as the road do down to interpretation up to the chemical reaction that can be induced with ... yeah... whatever can be done, it only can be get the outcome if that connects You with full realization, that You will start to do better version of the same there as what You do now. But for that You need to do that now what You love, and as it is Women door who can take You there... it is logical to assume, that
"I like to get really drunk and propose on a first date. But now that I’m tied down to a permanent boyfriend I can’t do that any more, so I just scream ‘MARRY ME’ at regular intervals. My man complains these proposals are so random as to be totally meaningless. But this is the point of them. I love all the drama of an engagement but I’m not quite sure I want to be stuck with him for life.
Marriage, after all, has lost many of its advantages. We no longer need to get hitched in order to escape our parents’ home. And as for money — we tend to earn more than our suitors. With none of these inducements, why sign up to a lifetime of mediocre sex? After all, these days, if it doesn’t work out, we may be robbed of all our winnings in the divorce. A girl sees how much the X Factor judge Cheryl Fernandez-Versini seems likely to have to shell out and she shudders. "
- as lets be serious, if one realizes the spiritual seriousness of actual marriage (that can only happen between Women and man, ) that this is doorway for man soul, to a get with Her heart, step closer to everlasting life, and this is most likely only way there is possible,
unless there is some truth, that falling in love with a Jesus can have same outcome or some delirium in Sufi dancing and meditation or drugs as the road do down to interpretation up to the chemical reaction that can be induced with ... yeah... whatever can be done, it only can be get the outcome if that connects You with full realization, that You will start to do better version of the same there as what You do now. But for that You need to do that now what You love, and as it is Women door who can take You there... it is logical to assume, that
29 February 2016 17:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but it gets even better, much better, as humor comes in:
"All the best women do the proposing. Zsa Zsa Gabor claims she proposed to all nine of her husbands. The actresses Halle Berry and Jennifer Hudson and the singer Pink did so too.
It makes sense for us to propose. We are better at planning and we know which ring we want (a 23-carat pink princess-cut diamond, thanks very much). We are decisive about our love lives, so we won’t faff around waiting for The Moment. We are not afraid of rejection (we already face it every time we try on size 10 jeans).
And we have had quite enough of men’s appalling efforts at wooing us: petrol station flowers, crotchless red Ann Summers panties. We do not want to have to tell our grandkids, ‘I remember when your grandfather sent me an engagement ring emoji…’
When women propose, they propose with panache. The popstar Pink held up a sign during her boyfriend’s motocross race. It said: ‘Will you marry me?’ He ignored it on the first lap, so she held up another sign: ‘I’m serious!’"
"All the best women do the proposing. Zsa Zsa Gabor claims she proposed to all nine of her husbands. The actresses Halle Berry and Jennifer Hudson and the singer Pink did so too.
It makes sense for us to propose. We are better at planning and we know which ring we want (a 23-carat pink princess-cut diamond, thanks very much). We are decisive about our love lives, so we won’t faff around waiting for The Moment. We are not afraid of rejection (we already face it every time we try on size 10 jeans).
And we have had quite enough of men’s appalling efforts at wooing us: petrol station flowers, crotchless red Ann Summers panties. We do not want to have to tell our grandkids, ‘I remember when your grandfather sent me an engagement ring emoji…’
When women propose, they propose with panache. The popstar Pink held up a sign during her boyfriend’s motocross race. It said: ‘Will you marry me?’ He ignored it on the first lap, so she held up another sign: ‘I’m serious!’"
29 February 2016 17:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The some-kind of Spectators, are Only kinds who can over power a Lesbian with lack of understanding, of not being able to see magic in an cute Women'y things, and on the point that 1 day of Women power is Equal to men's effort of 1461 days showing the balance, a size of a femine.
So here we go with a communist like new age pseudo intelligent liberal spectators:
(okey i just made that part up, as you can read...)
" The very notion that women must wait patiently for four years to pass and 29 February to arrive depends upon the assumption that we’re not allowed to propose whenever the hell we want. The leap year proposal is a myth perpetuated to keep women in their place. Women do not need one ‘special day’. If we want to get married we should just ask "
Okey, actually She was pretty good.
Maybe because it is a She.
So i always try to see reason and truth in a She.
I know, racist..
// Because i change my mind, about the truth, because thinking She is Women so the words have another meaning //
(yes, separating man and a women in to a races is intentional ironic humor, as it is humor because it is irritating human kind when at same time, Women and man can not even be called as a separate race as a difference is so many tenfold higher and larger )
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/02/why-the-leap-year-proposal-is-a-nonsense/
So here we go with a communist like new age pseudo intelligent liberal spectators:
(okey i just made that part up, as you can read...)
" The very notion that women must wait patiently for four years to pass and 29 February to arrive depends upon the assumption that we’re not allowed to propose whenever the hell we want. The leap year proposal is a myth perpetuated to keep women in their place. Women do not need one ‘special day’. If we want to get married we should just ask "
Okey, actually She was pretty good.
Maybe because it is a She.
So i always try to see reason and truth in a She.
I know, racist..
// Because i change my mind, about the truth, because thinking She is Women so the words have another meaning //
(yes, separating man and a women in to a races is intentional ironic humor, as it is humor because it is irritating human kind when at same time, Women and man can not even be called as a separate race as a difference is so many tenfold higher and larger )
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/02/why-the-leap-year-proposal-is-a-nonsense/
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/02/why-the-leap-year-proposal-is-a-nonsense/
29 February 2016 16:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
For info:
2020 Saturday
2024 Thursday
2028 Tuesday
2032 Big Sunday
and many less interesting for average person, but more historical info's about these dates and what regime as done what with it: http://www.timeanddate.com/date/february-30.html
2020 Saturday
2024 Thursday
2028 Tuesday
2032 Big Sunday
and many less interesting for average person, but more historical info's about these dates and what regime as done what with it: http://www.timeanddate.com/date/february-30.html
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/february-30.html
29 February 2016 16:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But as there is thing between Irish and Scotland, between Greek and Hebrew.. shows that fact also:
" In Scotland, it used to be considered unlucky for someone to be born on leap day, just as Friday 13th is considered an unlucky day by many. Greeks consider it unlucky for couples to marry during a leap year, and especially on Leap Day.
St Oswald’s Day
Leap day is also St Oswald’s Day, named after the archbishop of York who died on February 29, 992. His memorial is celebrated on February 29 during leap years and on February 28 during common years. "
" In Scotland, it used to be considered unlucky for someone to be born on leap day, just as Friday 13th is considered an unlucky day by many. Greeks consider it unlucky for couples to marry during a leap year, and especially on Leap Day.
St Oswald’s Day
Leap day is also St Oswald’s Day, named after the archbishop of York who died on February 29, 992. His memorial is celebrated on February 29 during leap years and on February 28 during common years. "
29 February 2016 16:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
History, History:
"According to an old Irish legend, or possibly history, St Brigid struck a deal with St Patrick to allow women to propose to men – and not just the other way around – every four years.
This is believed to have been introduced to balance the traditional roles of men and women in a similar way to how leap day balances the calendar."
A man was expected to pay a penalty, if he refused a marriage proposal from a woman on Leap Day.
In many European countries, especially in the upper classes of society, tradition dictates that any man who refuses a woman's proposal on February 29 has to buy her 12 pairs of gloves. The intention is that the woman can wear the gloves to hide the embarrassment of not having an engagement ring. During the middle ages there were laws governing this tradition.
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/leap-day-february-29.html
"According to an old Irish legend, or possibly history, St Brigid struck a deal with St Patrick to allow women to propose to men – and not just the other way around – every four years.
This is believed to have been introduced to balance the traditional roles of men and women in a similar way to how leap day balances the calendar."
A man was expected to pay a penalty, if he refused a marriage proposal from a woman on Leap Day.
In many European countries, especially in the upper classes of society, tradition dictates that any man who refuses a woman's proposal on February 29 has to buy her 12 pairs of gloves. The intention is that the woman can wear the gloves to hide the embarrassment of not having an engagement ring. During the middle ages there were laws governing this tradition.
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/leap-day-february-29.html
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/leap-day-february-29.html
29 February 2016 16:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And one Lesbian women say:
"Take the belief that on leap years a woman is “allowed” to propose marriage to a man. Does this not show just how patriarchal the origins of marriage are?"
But heyy... what She knows about Cinderella story..
( :p )
"Take the belief that on leap years a woman is “allowed” to propose marriage to a man. Does this not show just how patriarchal the origins of marriage are?"
But heyy... what She knows about Cinderella story..
( :p )
29 February 2016 16:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
from Muslim Women:
"Female empowerment! Women of the world! Feminism! I believe in all these things, but I’m not gutsy enough to ask a guy out for coffee, let alone propose marriage. It’s less a question of equality and more my inner ego-crusher assuring me: “He’s just not that into you.”
My problems with proposing are manifold. I suffer from what many men have been accused of, namely: a) fear of rejection, b) fear of commitment, and c) fear of putting myself out there (which I’ve acronymised as Fopmo – almost as acute as my Fomo syndrome).
A male friend recently said to me (in jest, I’m sure) that he expects a proposal on leap year. In the wise words of Rizzle Kicks, na na na na never gonna happen.
I would be terrible at proposing. But I know from experience that guys aren’t always great at it either. One Muslim suitor was magnanimous, saying marriage is the cradle of civilisation and a moral duty upon me. He quoted a prophetic saying that goes: “Marriage completes half of your faith.” I told him another saying, which states patience is also half of faith, so I’ll hold out for now.
Fear, pure unbridled fear, is what weddings bring out in me | Nell Frizzell
And there was a random I met for two whole minutes at a work event felt I was instant marriage material and emailed me the next day to say: “I’m interested. I want to protect my chastity too. Can I discuss with your parents?” I did not reply, As my tea mug says: “I’m single, not desperate.” But I have to give it to him: he did not have Fopmo.
If I were to ask a guy to marry me, it might be behind the e-safety net of something like WhatsApp, where an emoji can easily transform an awkward moment into a “just messin’” situation.
I admire any woman who has and will propose this leap year – or any other day, for that matter. You are a better and braver woman than I.
Women proposing? Of course I’m all for it, but this leap year my feminism has a day off. "
"Female empowerment! Women of the world! Feminism! I believe in all these things, but I’m not gutsy enough to ask a guy out for coffee, let alone propose marriage. It’s less a question of equality and more my inner ego-crusher assuring me: “He’s just not that into you.”
My problems with proposing are manifold. I suffer from what many men have been accused of, namely: a) fear of rejection, b) fear of commitment, and c) fear of putting myself out there (which I’ve acronymised as Fopmo – almost as acute as my Fomo syndrome).
A male friend recently said to me (in jest, I’m sure) that he expects a proposal on leap year. In the wise words of Rizzle Kicks, na na na na never gonna happen.
I would be terrible at proposing. But I know from experience that guys aren’t always great at it either. One Muslim suitor was magnanimous, saying marriage is the cradle of civilisation and a moral duty upon me. He quoted a prophetic saying that goes: “Marriage completes half of your faith.” I told him another saying, which states patience is also half of faith, so I’ll hold out for now.
Fear, pure unbridled fear, is what weddings bring out in me | Nell Frizzell
And there was a random I met for two whole minutes at a work event felt I was instant marriage material and emailed me the next day to say: “I’m interested. I want to protect my chastity too. Can I discuss with your parents?” I did not reply, As my tea mug says: “I’m single, not desperate.” But I have to give it to him: he did not have Fopmo.
If I were to ask a guy to marry me, it might be behind the e-safety net of something like WhatsApp, where an emoji can easily transform an awkward moment into a “just messin’” situation.
I admire any woman who has and will propose this leap year – or any other day, for that matter. You are a better and braver woman than I.
Women proposing? Of course I’m all for it, but this leap year my feminism has a day off. "
29 February 2016 16:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
And on kind of like reply, actually from 5 people story:
"No matter how enlightened and feminist you may be, these cultural narratives are hard to escape. I consider myself fairly laid back when it comes to gender roles, yet I was still brought up with this Disneyfied notion that marriage is the endgame. My boyfriend, in contrast, had simply never really thought about it. I was not averse to the thought of proposing, but because marriage was less of an important tradition for him, it meant a lot when he did."
One of the things I dislike about the myths surrounding engagements is this idea that a male proposal comes from nowhere (“It was such a surprise!”) Because who springs big, life-changing decisions on their partner like that? Not most couples I know. Many of them spend a large chunk of time discussing how they envisage their future. Such talks may not have the “romantic spontaneity” of a surprise proposal in front of a crowd (a strategy slightly passive-aggressive and narcissistic in motive, I feel) but they can make for a solid foundation based on openness and communication.
When my boyfriend proposed to me two weeks ago – quietly, and sweetly, with little razzmatazz but a lot of heart – I already knew he wanted to spend the rest of his life with me. Did it mean more because he did it and not me? It probably did, but only because he started out as the one less afflicted by the stereotypes surrounding marriage, not because he was a man. Regardless of gender, having someone you love say to you that they are into you enough to be around you for ever feels like a huge honour. As for who does the proposing, it’s whatever feels right for the two of you.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/28/women-leap-year-marriage-proposals-tradition
"No matter how enlightened and feminist you may be, these cultural narratives are hard to escape. I consider myself fairly laid back when it comes to gender roles, yet I was still brought up with this Disneyfied notion that marriage is the endgame. My boyfriend, in contrast, had simply never really thought about it. I was not averse to the thought of proposing, but because marriage was less of an important tradition for him, it meant a lot when he did."
One of the things I dislike about the myths surrounding engagements is this idea that a male proposal comes from nowhere (“It was such a surprise!”) Because who springs big, life-changing decisions on their partner like that? Not most couples I know. Many of them spend a large chunk of time discussing how they envisage their future. Such talks may not have the “romantic spontaneity” of a surprise proposal in front of a crowd (a strategy slightly passive-aggressive and narcissistic in motive, I feel) but they can make for a solid foundation based on openness and communication.
When my boyfriend proposed to me two weeks ago – quietly, and sweetly, with little razzmatazz but a lot of heart – I already knew he wanted to spend the rest of his life with me. Did it mean more because he did it and not me? It probably did, but only because he started out as the one less afflicted by the stereotypes surrounding marriage, not because he was a man. Regardless of gender, having someone you love say to you that they are into you enough to be around you for ever feels like a huge honour. As for who does the proposing, it’s whatever feels right for the two of you.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/28/women-leap-year-marriage-proposals-tradition
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/28/women-leap-year-marriage-proposals-tradition
29 February 2016 16:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And from Margus. Most likely that is not the best choice of an article from a man when they wanna find a women - but then again, that just might be, for the really few am searching only.
Something that is in nearly all but only few are able to be of that what they are
Something that is in nearly all but only few are able to be of that what they are
29 February 2016 16:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" In a situation where men and women might be on a more equal footing and women could say “actually, this is all a bit rubbish and I don’t exist to boost your ego, wash your socks, bear your name or legitimate the continuation of your family line. I just want to be your partner.” But that’s not very romantic and besides, it’s not really sexism if you know what you’re doing could be construed as sexist. In this Age of Equality™ we all participate in cultural misogyny in spite, not because, of the misogynist connotations. Yeah, honest.
Anyhow, don’t mind me. It’s not as though a woman can think for herself more than once every four years."
Anyhow, don’t mind me. It’s not as though a woman can think for herself more than once every four years."
29 February 2016 16:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" I’ve heard the “but why doesn’t he ask?” whispers, intimating a) that I must be very, very sad and b) that perhaps there’s something profoundly rubbish about me that only my partner knows. It’s humiliating, so humiliating that it can make you want to ask your partner to stop humiliating you in people’s imaginations so that said people will stop humiliating you in real life. But of course, you can’t ask for something you don’t want, and if you did ask, it would show that you recognise the very thing that you’re stressing about for the sham that it is. So you carry on as before, knowing that even if you were to, say, write a paragraph about it, plenty of people would read it and say “ah, look, she’s protesting too much!”
Marriage is sold to a woman as the day: the dress, the attention, the party. You can’t sell it to her as the lifetime commitment otherwise she’d run screaming for the hills. The proposal must be an “event” – often an extremely passive-aggressive, public, controlling event – since a long, considered discussion might not lead to the desired outcome. Furthermore, just in case all of this starts to seem a bit suspicious, it’s important to throw in a joker card. Women can’t propose to men except – except! – when it’s 29 February, that is, in a leap year. And hey, look! 2016 is one such year! Get in there, shelf-dwellers!
The leap year proposal tradition works on a principle of artificial scarcity. Women are told “look, you can only ask for this thing that you really, really want once every four years. Use it! Don’t miss your chance!” Sure, you could propose at any other time – it’s not literally against the law – but that wouldn’t be proper, would it? It’s against the rules of true romance. Plus if you could propose at any other time, you might realise you didn’t want to propose and therefore that you didn’t want your man to propose, either. And where would that leave us?"
Marriage is sold to a woman as the day: the dress, the attention, the party. You can’t sell it to her as the lifetime commitment otherwise she’d run screaming for the hills. The proposal must be an “event” – often an extremely passive-aggressive, public, controlling event – since a long, considered discussion might not lead to the desired outcome. Furthermore, just in case all of this starts to seem a bit suspicious, it’s important to throw in a joker card. Women can’t propose to men except – except! – when it’s 29 February, that is, in a leap year. And hey, look! 2016 is one such year! Get in there, shelf-dwellers!
The leap year proposal tradition works on a principle of artificial scarcity. Women are told “look, you can only ask for this thing that you really, really want once every four years. Use it! Don’t miss your chance!” Sure, you could propose at any other time – it’s not literally against the law – but that wouldn’t be proper, would it? It’s against the rules of true romance. Plus if you could propose at any other time, you might realise you didn’t want to propose and therefore that you didn’t want your man to propose, either. And where would that leave us?"
29 February 2016 16:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"You know the trouble with heterosexual relationships? One party desperately wants marriage and babies while the other doesn’t, and the lengths to which the former will go to tie down the latter are frankly staggering."
" To give men their due, they’ve certainly put the hours in when it comes to persuading women to stick with them for life. Brute force has been one way of achieving it. Just deny a woman access to money, safety and reproductive choice and you’ll find her curiously willing to stay by your side. But brute force is all rather vulgar and you know how squeamish men can be. Therefore the preferred option is romance, a pretend version of love which intimidates women into thinking that men’s desires are their own, and vice versa.
Take marriage proposals, for instance. We all know the rules: it’s just not romantic unless it’s the man who pops the question. So the unmarried woman in a long-term relationship is expected to remain in a state of uncertainty, panicking over whether or not she’ll be left on the shelf. It’s worth noting that she might not actually want to get of the shelf, but that fact is immaterial (since when did what a woman actually wants matter to anyone?). People will think that she does and sometimes that’s all that matters. Believe me, I’ve been there."
" To give men their due, they’ve certainly put the hours in when it comes to persuading women to stick with them for life. Brute force has been one way of achieving it. Just deny a woman access to money, safety and reproductive choice and you’ll find her curiously willing to stay by your side. But brute force is all rather vulgar and you know how squeamish men can be. Therefore the preferred option is romance, a pretend version of love which intimidates women into thinking that men’s desires are their own, and vice versa.
Take marriage proposals, for instance. We all know the rules: it’s just not romantic unless it’s the man who pops the question. So the unmarried woman in a long-term relationship is expected to remain in a state of uncertainty, panicking over whether or not she’ll be left on the shelf. It’s worth noting that she might not actually want to get of the shelf, but that fact is immaterial (since when did what a woman actually wants matter to anyone?). People will think that she does and sometimes that’s all that matters. Believe me, I’ve been there."
29 February 2016 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
.:. "We all know, for instance, that straight marriage doesn’t offer women as much as it offers men. Getting married boosts men’s health and income, while the only thing boosted for women is the number of pants to wash. Women are more likely to initiate divorce and less likely to suffer ill-health as a result. Recent research has suggested that single, childless men want babies more than their female counterparts, hardly surprising given who pays the highest price in health risks, workplace discrimination and domestic drudgery. So is it any wonder that poor, needy men have been forced to come up with elaborate schemes in order to snare independent, commitment-phobic women? Otherwise what straight woman in her right mind would ever end up walking down the aisle?"
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2016/02/leap-day-love-once-every-four-years-women-are-allowed-propose-marriage-men
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2016/02/leap-day-love-once-every-four-years-women-are-allowed-propose-marriage-men
29 February 2016 16:10
Margus Meigo commented on Eustace Patrick Jones's photo.
protect it not
29 February 2016 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on Eustace Patrick Jones's photo.
smoking is for weak ones, drop that,
add explanation about it , how no good it is
add explanation about it , how no good it is
29 February 2016 15:40
Margus Meigo replied to Eustace Patrick Jones's comment.
82-84 reference is correct one, many kind of technologies was changed then .. , besides the star consultations was having adverse effect on certain kind of breed of humans a lot and other kinds a bit less (kind of like x man mutations). '
29 February 2016 15:39
Margus Meigo commented on Adriana Iv's post.
This picture is getting popular
29 February 2016 14:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"The level of government we most often encounter is local: the roads that are smooth or potholed, police that protect or brutalize and schools that instruct or don’t. On Thursday, I attended a conference at Chapman University on “Reimagining Local Government.”
Organizer Fred Smoller, a Chapman associate professor of political science, for years has encouraged his students to become involved in making democracy work. In moderating the first panel, he said the federal and state governments, “regardless of the federal election” for president, “will continue to be paralyzed and broke. We’ll have to solve our problems ourselves.”
Anaheim Mayor Tom Tait touted his city’s “Million Acts of Kindness” program to advance “connectedness and emergency preparedness.” In our wired but socially disconnected society, it encourages neighbors to get outside and know one another. That way, in an earthquake, “When you neighbor’s house collapsed, you’ll know if it’s a family of five, not two” needing to be rescued.
Peter Hong of Cal State Los Angeles said it’s hard for citizens to become involved in Los Angeles County because it has only five county supervisors. So the “system relies on a lack of participation to function.” The problem, stemming from county governments’ 19th century structure also besets Orange County, with five supervisors for more than 3 million people.
Secretary of State Alex Padilla, who supervises the state’s elections, called for more voter participation. “Where people are involved, the quality of life is higher,” he said. He touted a law soon to go into effect that automatically will register citizens to vote when they get or renew a driver’s license (or ID card).
But I wonder if that’s necessary when it takes five minutes to register to vote online. I asked him about potential voter fraud given the vulnerability of computer networks. “The Internet isn’t built necessarily for security,” he conceded.
Sam Adams, former mayor of Portland, touted its fabled “strategic planning” and “high quality of life.” But I pointed out that Portland’s median home price is $460,000; and in Orange County, where even greater state and local laws restrict property development, the price now is $630,000. I asked where the middle class was supposed to live. He replied that there was a need for more affordable housing and better-paying jobs.
The reality is that “smart growth” itself, as well as “affordable housing” mandates, restrict the market, driving prices higher and squeezing out the middle class."
Organizer Fred Smoller, a Chapman associate professor of political science, for years has encouraged his students to become involved in making democracy work. In moderating the first panel, he said the federal and state governments, “regardless of the federal election” for president, “will continue to be paralyzed and broke. We’ll have to solve our problems ourselves.”
Anaheim Mayor Tom Tait touted his city’s “Million Acts of Kindness” program to advance “connectedness and emergency preparedness.” In our wired but socially disconnected society, it encourages neighbors to get outside and know one another. That way, in an earthquake, “When you neighbor’s house collapsed, you’ll know if it’s a family of five, not two” needing to be rescued.
Peter Hong of Cal State Los Angeles said it’s hard for citizens to become involved in Los Angeles County because it has only five county supervisors. So the “system relies on a lack of participation to function.” The problem, stemming from county governments’ 19th century structure also besets Orange County, with five supervisors for more than 3 million people.
Secretary of State Alex Padilla, who supervises the state’s elections, called for more voter participation. “Where people are involved, the quality of life is higher,” he said. He touted a law soon to go into effect that automatically will register citizens to vote when they get or renew a driver’s license (or ID card).
But I wonder if that’s necessary when it takes five minutes to register to vote online. I asked him about potential voter fraud given the vulnerability of computer networks. “The Internet isn’t built necessarily for security,” he conceded.
Sam Adams, former mayor of Portland, touted its fabled “strategic planning” and “high quality of life.” But I pointed out that Portland’s median home price is $460,000; and in Orange County, where even greater state and local laws restrict property development, the price now is $630,000. I asked where the middle class was supposed to live. He replied that there was a need for more affordable housing and better-paying jobs.
The reality is that “smart growth” itself, as well as “affordable housing” mandates, restrict the market, driving prices higher and squeezing out the middle class."
29 February 2016 11:58
Margus Meigo replied to Marcelo Mansur's comment.
it actually DOES go way higger... : )
29 February 2016 11:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see vist hea
29 February 2016 11:13
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's post.
Tõsiseks lähed...
29 February 2016 11:12
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's post.
Awwa :; )
29 February 2016 11:12
Margus Meigo commented on Mart Kalvet's post.
Kes õpib enne surma mis on Armastus, see elab Alatiseks,
Seega jah.. ma valiks selle varjandi.. : )
Seega jah.. ma valiks selle varjandi.. : )
29 February 2016 11:11
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Kaljulaid's post.
If You learn to LOVE before You Die,
If You find a Women who will allow You to REALLY access the Heart, the God world... then You can live Forever..
So yeah, thanks, i Will choose this option instead of 1000y in virtual soul selling programs
If You find a Women who will allow You to REALLY access the Heart, the God world... then You can live Forever..
So yeah, thanks, i Will choose this option instead of 1000y in virtual soul selling programs
29 February 2016 11:10
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Nu siis tuleb lihtsalt kogemusi vahetada õpilaste vahel, ma mitmeid EU noorte haridus exchange programme majandanud Seiklejate Vennaskond kaudu.. et ehk saaks rakendada siinkohal miskit programmi...
29 February 2016 11:08
Margus Meigo commented on Shorts's photo.
Proper nice!
29 February 2016 07:48
Margus Meigo commented on Asso Puidet's photo.
oot mis sa sellest raketiteadlasest keerad...
29 February 2016 06:25
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
yeah, top of that whites not really for a long hair and bearded guys... and if You are wearing rope and sandals.. or speak of an pure relgion, ya are in trouble indeed, specially among places with "relgious freedom" laws
29 February 2016 06:24
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
29 February 2016 06:22
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Ka mul oli selline täna hommikul.... need mass possession lained käivad kuhjaga tundub, ma nüüd proovoingi seepärast üldse mite jääda öösel magama , ja kui siis tund ainult..
sest need kes liialt ligi.. need ka avatud.. kui pole lõplikult kaitstud pealiskaudsete rünnakute osas.. ja nii nad tulevad..
sest need kes liialt ligi.. need ka avatud.. kui pole lõplikult kaitstud pealiskaudsete rünnakute osas.. ja nii nad tulevad..
29 February 2016 06:19
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Jeerum :D
29 February 2016 06:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and yes, people can find a make business out of anything
http://altered-states.net/barry/newsletter525/
http://altered-states.net/barry/newsletter525/
http://altered-states.net/barry/newsletter525/
29 February 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And some basic Christianity concepts expressed longer:
. Eemaan is to believe in the heart.
.. Eemaan is to testify by the tongue.
. Eemaan is to practice willingly by the limbs.
http://islamicthinkers.com/welcome/?p=178
. Eemaan is to believe in the heart.
.. Eemaan is to testify by the tongue.
. Eemaan is to practice willingly by the limbs.
http://islamicthinkers.com/welcome/?p=178
29 February 2016 01:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://youtu.be/h_1vU8ctdmM?t=392
https://youtu.be/h_1vU8ctdmM?t=392
29 February 2016 01:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lists, if videos do not come up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjVoyIAxdfA&list=PLKOi88w89wbTL0QtmZm70N8qlUSQHCG-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjVoyIAxdfA&list=PLKOi88w89wbTL0QtmZm70N8qlUSQHCG-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjVoyIAxdfA&list=PLKOi88w89wbTL0QtmZm70N8qlUSQHCG-M
29 February 2016 01:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ette olles juba ka viisnurga, N liidu utoopilistest futuristlikute maailmade meelte vangla konstruktsioonidest mida valmis pannakse, "avastuseks"
Meeldib · Vasta · Just nüüd
nagu need atlantise mille põhja lasime Põhjala rahva poolt kuna tulid oma robotlikuma olemuse tõttu hüppama ja 40nda laiuskraadi teemad ja liigid mis sanskripti tõid indiasse kuid mille tase pole kaugeltki nii sügav kui .. hmm.. kui..
.. ja kui vaid targeimad isegi 10% Eestikeele asjast teaks..
Meeldib · Vasta · Just nüüd
nagu need atlantise mille põhja lasime Põhjala rahva poolt kuna tulid oma robotlikuma olemuse tõttu hüppama ja 40nda laiuskraadi teemad ja liigid mis sanskripti tõid indiasse kuid mille tase pole kaugeltki nii sügav kui .. hmm.. kui..
.. ja kui vaid targeimad isegi 10% Eestikeele asjast teaks..
29 February 2016 01:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nagu need atlantise mille põhja lasime Põhjala rahva poolt kuna tulid oma robotlikuma olemuse tõttu hüppama ja 40nda laiuskraadi teemad ja liigid mis sanskripti tõid indiasse kuid mille tase pole kaugeltki nii sügav kui .. hmm.. kui..
.. ja kui vaid targeimad isegi 10% Eestikeele asjast teaks..
.. ja kui vaid targeimad isegi 10% Eestikeele asjast teaks..
29 February 2016 01:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ette olles juba ka viisnurga, N liidu utoopilistest futuristlikute maailmade meelte vangla konstruktsioonidest mida valmis pannakse, "avastuseks"
29 February 2016 01:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehk siis mis tasemel, Nad TEGELIKULT toimetavad
29 February 2016 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Some slightly alternative point of view from a Muslims: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBFLZt1RfPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBFLZt1RfPM
29 February 2016 01:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Some slightly alternative point of view from a Muslims: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBFLZt1RfPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBFLZt1RfPM
29 February 2016 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And the ones who believe, that final Love can happen also with a more then a one Women, will also be doomed as they are lacking access to a other-side consciously
yes, this is a Test from a Allah
School from a Jehovah
and task from Him
hope from Her
yes, this is a Test from a Allah
School from a Jehovah
and task from Him
hope from Her
29 February 2016 01:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
the Protesting ones, as them not believe in the need of ANY kind of importance of a correct deed, just demand of forgiveness these sad ones say is enough.. yes it is enough to get Creators patience to get exhausted
but by far not, for anyOne to become friend with Creation
but by far not, for anyOne to become friend with Creation
29 February 2016 01:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aww "Allah is not going to ask how many children You have" Allah Asks about Eeman.
"What is Eeman?" He/She (sallallahu alaihe wa-sallam) replied: "Eeman is to believe in Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Messengers, the Last Day and to believe in the Predestination; the good and the bad."
Eeman is a combination of Belief and Actions.
and may i say : BOOKS;.... so ALL Muslims, who fail to agree, to the Books before, are doomed, whit out a doubt, indefinitely.
Be blessed, may this life be graceful for you if You are believer of good.
and as Eeman is " combination of Belief and Actions." then we have to wish goodbye also to all Protesting ones who thing there is no actions need, just keep demanding forgiveness after sin after sin after sin husseling with a Lord and spitting out clever combination of a demanding two faced words magic what You are led to belive will save You to the end, always... always will not stay like that sisters and brothers, as You know, by now.
(and all the other.. thoughts about that)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl1zLHd6gp8
"What is Eeman?" He/She (sallallahu alaihe wa-sallam) replied: "Eeman is to believe in Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Messengers, the Last Day and to believe in the Predestination; the good and the bad."
Eeman is a combination of Belief and Actions.
and may i say : BOOKS;.... so ALL Muslims, who fail to agree, to the Books before, are doomed, whit out a doubt, indefinitely.
Be blessed, may this life be graceful for you if You are believer of good.
and as Eeman is " combination of Belief and Actions." then we have to wish goodbye also to all Protesting ones who thing there is no actions need, just keep demanding forgiveness after sin after sin after sin husseling with a Lord and spitting out clever combination of a demanding two faced words magic what You are led to belive will save You to the end, always... always will not stay like that sisters and brothers, as You know, by now.
(and all the other.. thoughts about that)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl1zLHd6gp8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl1zLHd6gp8
29 February 2016 00:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mitmeid aastaid tagasi juba tuli visioon siia maale ka, et see on naisi kaitsev tehnoloogia, lihtsalt Eestis peaks see olema rohkem kenam, pitsilisem, mustrilise ja heledam, sest me seda väärt.
Kuid ja, see annab tükk maad suuremat võimu naistele, kui nad saavad ise valida, kas katta ennast ja oma võimu tasemel liikuda ühiskonnas või olla kuidas keegi soovib.
Ma ise olen ka nudistide poolt,
nu vähemalt segasauna kultuuri poolt, arvates, et kes seda ei ole võimeline vastu võtma ei ole võimeline ka päris täiskasvanud inimene olema
Kuid ja, see annab tükk maad suuremat võimu naistele, kui nad saavad ise valida, kas katta ennast ja oma võimu tasemel liikuda ühiskonnas või olla kuidas keegi soovib.
Ma ise olen ka nudistide poolt,
nu vähemalt segasauna kultuuri poolt, arvates, et kes seda ei ole võimeline vastu võtma ei ole võimeline ka päris täiskasvanud inimene olema
29 February 2016 00:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
what a show..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSIjfnpPCsg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSIjfnpPCsg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSIjfnpPCsg
29 February 2016 00:35
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's photo.
Kui see tüdruk ennast vaimudele nii nähtavana hoiab siis ta ka varsti läinud
28 February 2016 23:52
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's post.
Inimesed nagu ära unustanud, et See valitsus, viisnurk mille all me oleme,
Greeka-Rooma üllitis.. see Rootsi-Norra sellised uudised, on lihtsalt ajast ees, sest see Eliit sellest mida taolised võimud esindavad, kes meid siin viisnurga alla topivad (suurem osa arvutitarkvarast mis populaar kasutuses, filimifirma logodest, pop meediast, rahast, suurvõimu organisatsioonidest.. kõigil pentagram peal aga ei kurdeta... ja siis kui tänutäheks sellised noored välja tulevad Õnneks meid ülesse äratama, selles osas Millega MEIE vaikides kaasa läheme ja mis PIDEVALT toiminud privaatselt on, kõrgemate ebardite poolt... et siis asume alles kurtma ja nurma siin... )
See pole siin midagi uut.. mustamaagia ja nõiakunstide elementaarsed osad mille eesotsa suur osa rahvast pidevalt teadlikult või siis ebateadmistest tulenevalt kummardanud.
ja ega siis teadmatus vastutusest ei vabasta.
Leitke oma taskust rahatäht kus pole viisnurka, või Korralik riiki juhtiv organisatsioon kes lipsu ei kanna?
Ahjaa... nu seni kuni nendest sümbolitest aru ei saada, et nende sümbolite kõrval pole mingit suurt põhjust erutuda taoliste nekrofiilja uudiste peale... kui ise neid jõude oleme jõus hoidnud, süsteemi oma naise jumala asemel teeninud.
Greeka-Rooma üllitis.. see Rootsi-Norra sellised uudised, on lihtsalt ajast ees, sest see Eliit sellest mida taolised võimud esindavad, kes meid siin viisnurga alla topivad (suurem osa arvutitarkvarast mis populaar kasutuses, filimifirma logodest, pop meediast, rahast, suurvõimu organisatsioonidest.. kõigil pentagram peal aga ei kurdeta... ja siis kui tänutäheks sellised noored välja tulevad Õnneks meid ülesse äratama, selles osas Millega MEIE vaikides kaasa läheme ja mis PIDEVALT toiminud privaatselt on, kõrgemate ebardite poolt... et siis asume alles kurtma ja nurma siin... )
See pole siin midagi uut.. mustamaagia ja nõiakunstide elementaarsed osad mille eesotsa suur osa rahvast pidevalt teadlikult või siis ebateadmistest tulenevalt kummardanud.
ja ega siis teadmatus vastutusest ei vabasta.
Leitke oma taskust rahatäht kus pole viisnurka, või Korralik riiki juhtiv organisatsioon kes lipsu ei kanna?
Ahjaa... nu seni kuni nendest sümbolitest aru ei saada, et nende sümbolite kõrval pole mingit suurt põhjust erutuda taoliste nekrofiilja uudiste peale... kui ise neid jõude oleme jõus hoidnud, süsteemi oma naise jumala asemel teeninud.
28 February 2016 23:24
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's post.
Wau
28 February 2016 23:15
Margus Meigo commented on Claudia Gomez's post.
Sad story
28 February 2016 22:10
Margus Meigo replied to David Dickson's comment.
I can only use my integrated laptop Webcam for photographs right now, poorboy
but well.. training with lowest gives the greater results @ best later
but well.. training with lowest gives the greater results @ best later
28 February 2016 21:47
Margus Meigo replied to David Dickson's comment.
(what is the word for it?)
28 February 2016 21:44
Margus Meigo replied to David Dickson's comment.
Thank You,
well, sometimes photos do manage to capture my interestingnes
well, sometimes photos do manage to capture my interestingnes
28 February 2016 21:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and top of that found just for fun this website: http://www.sdgjo.com/stag/daddy-long-legs-traduction/
http://www.sdgjo.com/stag/daddy-long-legs-traduction/
28 February 2016 18:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.livescience.com/33625-daddy-longlegs-spiders-poisonous.html
http://www.livescience.com/33625-daddy-longlegs-spiders-poisonous.html
28 February 2016 18:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://spiders.ucr.edu/daddylonglegs.html
http://spiders.ucr.edu/daddylonglegs.html
28 February 2016 18:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_fly
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_fly
28 February 2016 18:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opiliones
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opiliones
28 February 2016 18:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pholcidae
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pholcidae
28 February 2016 18:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and from the minute 48:33 about DaddyLonglegs.. made a great joke but.:
https://youtu.be/9LY6cfYiPVM?t=2913
https://youtu.be/9LY6cfYiPVM?t=2913
https://youtu.be/9LY6cfYiPVM?t=2913
28 February 2016 18:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Full thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LY6cfYiPVM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LY6cfYiPVM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LY6cfYiPVM
28 February 2016 18:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
it is not just like Serpent was just able to be on ones belly You know
and is not like the Viper serpent would be the baddest kind by far by now
you have to feel and flow and recognize when is undoubtable truth point and when is intentional interpretation
and is not like the Viper serpent would be the baddest kind by far by now
you have to feel and flow and recognize when is undoubtable truth point and when is intentional interpretation
28 February 2016 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But he has found a great way to get that to You, and believe me , listening this religiously, is by FAR better then hearing wrong kind of christian songs or talks about fear ... but fear does not come in group talk if You keep it up day by day .. opposite of that will happen, making people more of in to danger
Fear comes from realization, understanding...
and from respect
Fear comes from realization, understanding...
and from respect
28 February 2016 18:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Just lets see how funny it is when one sees what is behind the words lol : )
28 February 2016 18:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
28 February 2016 17:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ilma kahtluseta on kasulikum kuulata psyhedeelset elektronilist musikat või pehmeid armastuse pop laule,
pea võtab valutama, peab kanali sulgema.
kuid küll need kuupäevad ja arhiivid alles jäävad, Õigusemoistmiseks
pea võtab valutama, peab kanali sulgema.
kuid küll need kuupäevad ja arhiivid alles jäävad, Õigusemoistmiseks
28 February 2016 17:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
täielikult häälest ja viisist ja sõnadest KA tunda, et need viist EI ole jumaliku valgusega kokku puutunud
28 February 2016 17:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis mängivad pillidega, trilla turllat
kirikus, jeerum,
ega see õllelaud pole
kõlavad ka nagu purjus, väga raske aru saada kas kained ja kas laual on konid ja õlled kommaritega või mitte
kirikus, jeerum,
ega see õllelaud pole
kõlavad ka nagu purjus, väga raske aru saada kas kained ja kas laual on konid ja õlled kommaritega või mitte
28 February 2016 17:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kaua sa teiste aiamaad salaja ohakatest rohid ja siis teine sind ülbelt oma aiamaalt ära ajab või kõva hinda kysib kui süüa soovid
28 February 2016 17:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid varsti peame halvemaks laskma olukorra, sest niisama päästes, ylbus ainult kasvab ja usk langeb ja ohutunnetus kaob ja kaasa ei aidata..
28 February 2016 17:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Meie rahva likvideerimise viimased aastad
ja selles, et Märtsis jälle mingid ajugeeniused sõda siinmaalaste suunas tahavad alustada, kelle me ära nullima peame, neist ei hakka üldse rääkmagi,
mainin lihtsalt igaks juhuks kui läheb vähem paremini kui plaanis
ja selles, et Märtsis jälle mingid ajugeeniused sõda siinmaalaste suunas tahavad alustada, kelle me ära nullima peame, neist ei hakka üldse rääkmagi,
mainin lihtsalt igaks juhuks kui läheb vähem paremini kui plaanis
28 February 2016 17:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid otseselt kurjast ei tundu need preestrid
seegi hea, kuid ega siis ei pea olema kurjast, et kahju teha.. piisab kui rutiiinselt .. valearusaame üle korrutada üle ja üle ja üle ...
segavad sõnad jumala, issad ja jeesus ära ja siis räägivad, et kuidas issand meie eest ära suri ja...
oot mis jura, kes ära suri, keegi ei surnud ära, kui suri ÄRA
siis pole ka midagi oodata... kuid veelgi hullem... need tagajärjed veelgi hullemad
hea näide on see kes just 17:25 juhtus.. mis iganes eeldatvasti luterikirikune ülekanne
... ja siis tuleb selline Jumalalt väljapressimine õigete sõnadega ja... oeh.. kurb, valus , aga tööle suruv.. sellised asjad..
selliste kirikutega me musta maagiat mis siin maal orjavangis meid hoiab.. me edasi ei jõua...
seegi hea, kuid ega siis ei pea olema kurjast, et kahju teha.. piisab kui rutiiinselt .. valearusaame üle korrutada üle ja üle ja üle ...
segavad sõnad jumala, issad ja jeesus ära ja siis räägivad, et kuidas issand meie eest ära suri ja...
oot mis jura, kes ära suri, keegi ei surnud ära, kui suri ÄRA
siis pole ka midagi oodata... kuid veelgi hullem... need tagajärjed veelgi hullemad
hea näide on see kes just 17:25 juhtus.. mis iganes eeldatvasti luterikirikune ülekanne
... ja siis tuleb selline Jumalalt väljapressimine õigete sõnadega ja... oeh.. kurb, valus , aga tööle suruv.. sellised asjad..
selliste kirikutega me musta maagiat mis siin maal orjavangis meid hoiab.. me edasi ei jõua...
28 February 2016 17:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mitme aasta jooksul, ei ole veel kuulnud midagi uut mida üle eesti erinevad luteri ja protesti kirikud ette vuristavad...
aga pea iga kord kui piibli ise lahti võtad, siis alti ja ikka ja jälle tuleb uut.. milline kokkusattumus
aga pea iga kord kui piibli ise lahti võtad, siis alti ja ikka ja jälle tuleb uut.. milline kokkusattumus
28 February 2016 17:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja need monotoonse häälega luterlikud ÜHTEDE ja samade , osade ette vuristamine robotlikult, ilma tunnetuseta lugemata, ... kuidas see seaduslik üldse on, ja miks seda raadios lastakse, ilma, et selle lõpus selgitus oleks mis just juhtus ?
28 February 2016 17:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui paned sõna nagu "suur" ja "võimas" siis kes kaasa nõustub, see VÄHENDAB ja LIMITEERIB arusaame, juhul kui ta neid sõnu VEEL kasutanud on ÜEGI muu asja tarvis.
See on lihtsalt kuidas maagia ja võlukunst toimib... ja nagu kurb, et sellega kaasa minnakse.
See on lihtsalt kuidas maagia ja võlukunst toimib... ja nagu kurb, et sellega kaasa minnakse.
28 February 2016 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on Alexandra Belskaya's photo.
Yes and Earth people are made to believe that "there is not enough power from a Sun, we need to burn of Earth oil..."
Someone might think, that this is one of the reasons for a bacteria like Human to tricked to burn of the dirt called oil, clean Earth up from oil and transform it to plant eating carbon dioxide and to other things that Earth can benafit
Someone might think, that this is one of the reasons for a bacteria like Human to tricked to burn of the dirt called oil, clean Earth up from oil and transform it to plant eating carbon dioxide and to other things that Earth can benafit
28 February 2016 17:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"English-Hebrew
discernment
(ש"ע) הבחנה
From Wikipedia:
Discernment
Discernment is a term used in Christian tradition to describe the process of discerning God's will for one's life. In large part, it describes the interior search for an answer to the question of one's vocation, namely, determining whether or not God is calling one to the married life, single life, religious life; ordained ministry or priesthood (Roman Catholic or Episcopal/Anglican) or any other ministerial calling by virtue of Baptism. The concept is not limited to ordination or vowed life.
"
www.doitinhebrew.com/Translate/Default.aspx?kb=US US&l1=en&l2=iw&s=1&txt=discernment
discernment
(ש"ע) הבחנה
From Wikipedia:
Discernment
Discernment is a term used in Christian tradition to describe the process of discerning God's will for one's life. In large part, it describes the interior search for an answer to the question of one's vocation, namely, determining whether or not God is calling one to the married life, single life, religious life; ordained ministry or priesthood (Roman Catholic or Episcopal/Anglican) or any other ministerial calling by virtue of Baptism. The concept is not limited to ordination or vowed life.
"
www.doitinhebrew.com/Translate/Default.aspx?kb=US US&l1=en&l2=iw&s=1&txt=discernment
http://www.doitinhebrew.com/Translate/Default.aspx?kb=US
28 February 2016 16:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Good list of explanations:
http://www.dafyomi.co.il/yevamos/halachah/ye-hl-035.htm
http://www.dafyomi.co.il/yevamos/halachah/ye-hl-035.htm
http://www.dafyomi.co.il/yevamos/halachah/ye-hl-035.htm
28 February 2016 16:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And a lot of Talk and debates around every sentence of... and in here, the blog got a lot of deep debates, with a lot of words i might add :
http://www.rationalistjudaism.com/2012/02/acknowledging-dissenting-views.html
http://www.rationalistjudaism.com/2012/02/acknowledging-dissenting-views.html
http://www.rationalistjudaism.com/2012/02/acknowledging-dissenting-views.html
28 February 2016 16:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
“havchanah” waiting period for a woman who has been divorced and wishes to re-marry
(muidugi eks ka selle pärast, et teise mehe vaim naisest puhastuda võiks, ja tunded jõuaks selgineda)
(muidugi eks ka selle pärast, et teise mehe vaim naisest puhastuda võiks, ja tunded jõuaks selgineda)
28 February 2016 16:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
The feminine noun ahavah can describe the love of husband toward wife (Gen 29:20), God's love for his people, (Deut 7:8; II Chr 2:11), and deep abiding friendship (I Sam 18:3; I Sam 20:17).
Proverbs uses ahavah in its most abstract form: "love covers all sins" (Prov 10:12), "better a dinner where love is" (Prov 15:17; cf. Eccl 9:1, 6). The word is also used in the Song of Solomon in several familiar verses. "His banner over me is love" (Song 2:4). "I am sick of love" (Song 2:5; Song 5:8). "Love is strong as death" (Song 8:6). "Many waters cannot quench love" (Song 8:7).
Famous passages in the Nevi’im use this word as well. "I have loved you with an everlasting love" (Jer 31:3). "I drew them... with bands of love" (Hos 11:4). "And what does the Lord require of you but to do justice and to love mercy" (Mic 6:8), lit. "love of mercy" (ahavat chesed).
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Glossary/Word_of_the_Week/Archived/Ahavah/ahavah.html
Proverbs uses ahavah in its most abstract form: "love covers all sins" (Prov 10:12), "better a dinner where love is" (Prov 15:17; cf. Eccl 9:1, 6). The word is also used in the Song of Solomon in several familiar verses. "His banner over me is love" (Song 2:4). "I am sick of love" (Song 2:5; Song 5:8). "Love is strong as death" (Song 8:6). "Many waters cannot quench love" (Song 8:7).
Famous passages in the Nevi’im use this word as well. "I have loved you with an everlasting love" (Jer 31:3). "I drew them... with bands of love" (Hos 11:4). "And what does the Lord require of you but to do justice and to love mercy" (Mic 6:8), lit. "love of mercy" (ahavat chesed).
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Glossary/Word_of_the_Week/Archived/Ahavah/ahavah.html
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Glossary/Word_of_the_Week/Archived/Ahavah/ahavah.html
28 February 2016 16:47
Margus Meigo replied to Siim Sorokin's comment.
Põhi osa mis ameeriakst on mitte hea, on viisnurga osa, aga see see sama osa mida kõige enam just Che promos
mustmaagia, vererituaalid, retsimine, ... ah.. missest ...
eks see taidlemine siin jabur ole praegu, proovides päästa, mis päästa saab ennast ise siis kui aeg küps on. Lihtsalt loodad alati, et ... valgus hakkab paistma
.:.
mustmaagia, vererituaalid, retsimine, ... ah.. missest ...
eks see taidlemine siin jabur ole praegu, proovides päästa, mis päästa saab ennast ise siis kui aeg küps on. Lihtsalt loodad alati, et ... valgus hakkab paistma
.:.
28 February 2016 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to Siim Sorokin's comment.
Kuid see lihtsalt üks tõde, neid tõe versioone mis sama asja tõendab, mitut eri sügavust pidi, neid on palju
28 February 2016 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to Siim Sorokin's comment.
mis sugune see anti communist propa veel on kui communism ise juba on Anti (anti headus, anti elu, anti terve mõistus, anti jumal ja anti naine ja anti loodus ja ... list jätkub jätkub... pole veel ühtegi kommunismi teost lugenud mis hingelisest sügavusest oleks jutustanud ja kuidas Naine on kõrgema väärtusega kui mees - mida iga tark teab, et on. Kuid kes sellest ei kirjuta, selle kirja väärtused on kas siis otseselt kurjast või kaheldava väärtusega. Piibel siinkohal päästetud, piisab juba Proverbs 8:24, kui muidu aru ei saa, et see on ka manual naismaailma poolt kirjutatud mehele, arusaamiseks milline on õige naine ja arusaamiseks mismoodi õigeks meheks hakata. Ehk kunagi õpin ka selle selgeks... igasuguste punaste maailma ravimine aga võtab päris palju energiat )
28 February 2016 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to Martin Kotter's comment.
Group: Tutvus
Kahtlen Kahtlen Selles Martin, muidu ta kirjutaks ise,
nii noori daame ei sobi mul oma pealekäimisel ise tüüdata28 February 2016 01:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tee asjast kokkuvõte kui tead
28 February 2016 01:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sa võid panna ka : moon landing hoax, või vegetarian hoax või anti violence hoax vms mida iganes, ikka suur hulk viamusünnitusi tuleb, millest suurem osa nüridad
28 February 2016 01:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ma ei viitsi uurida jeerum selliste asjadeg aseoses, et anna asjalike fakte
ja mu point oli siin kuidas autorikaitse peedistab Wikipeediat, mul suht teisejärguline kas on võlts või mitte. Või kumb neist rohkem võlts on kas Main Kamf või anna teema.
Ilmselge on, et taolised olukorrad polnud ainulaadsed või... või midagi nii müstilist tundus seal.. hmm.. mis arvad sellest, et ehk kirjutati kokku mitu tõe kirja ühe nimel , et sis keegi loeks.
See osa kus tüdruk mõtteid mõlgutas, kuidas sellisest väikesest august saab lapsi välja tulla jms, tundus küll reaalne, et ei tea kas sellisex hoaxterid sellist teemad oleksid saanud kirja pandud..
ja mu point oli siin kuidas autorikaitse peedistab Wikipeediat, mul suht teisejärguline kas on võlts või mitte. Või kumb neist rohkem võlts on kas Main Kamf või anna teema.
Ilmselge on, et taolised olukorrad polnud ainulaadsed või... või midagi nii müstilist tundus seal.. hmm.. mis arvad sellest, et ehk kirjutati kokku mitu tõe kirja ühe nimel , et sis keegi loeks.
See osa kus tüdruk mõtteid mõlgutas, kuidas sellisest väikesest august saab lapsi välja tulla jms, tundus küll reaalne, et ei tea kas sellisex hoaxterid sellist teemad oleksid saanud kirja pandud..
28 February 2016 01:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ning lisaks kasutatakse veel selleks, et võltsilt huvi asjade vastu tekitada
28 February 2016 01:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid siinkohal pole tõesti midagi pistmist selleg,a kas tegu siis fantaasia looga või faktiga, point on ikka sama, täpselt sama_:
autorikaitse on selleks, et vajadusel liiga meeli avavaid laule, teoseid või mida muud saaks piirata masskasutuse eest. Kuid miks ja kuidas ,see juba pikem teema praeguse õhtu jaoks.
Tulnukad vist on märksõna
autorikaitse on selleks, et vajadusel liiga meeli avavaid laule, teoseid või mida muud saaks piirata masskasutuse eest. Kuid miks ja kuidas ,see juba pikem teema praeguse õhtu jaoks.
Tulnukad vist on märksõna
28 February 2016 01:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kas arvad, et kogu see osa on võlts, osati ainult (mis osad, teadmaks originaali) või... et mis täpsemalt. Ja kas seal oli midagi kirjutatud, mis reaalselt sarnaselt ei juhtunud ? Eks ta ole veider jah et need käekirjad ja selline kogus ja siis ta isa nende asjadega hiljem ja..
28 February 2016 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid point siin on, et autorikaitse selline kasutamine, jagamise piiramiseks, on kurjast (ja see ka üks põhilisi funktsioone sellel, nö kaitsel)
28 February 2016 01:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei tea veel ühtegi Che fanni kes oma perega, vanematega läbi saaks, enamasti sellsite anti-hierode teema 9 aastastel segaduses kluttidel või siis neil kellel see lapseiga hilisemas eas välja lööb, mõnel jääb kauemaks ka...
et siinkohal küsiks küsimuse.. .et kas Sa oma vanematega saad läbi v? Kas Armastad oma vanemaid ?
et siinkohal küsiks küsimuse.. .et kas Sa oma vanematega saad läbi v? Kas Armastad oma vanemaid ?
28 February 2016 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
polearvanutki, et ta rassist on, ta lihtsalt vihkas armastust
28 February 2016 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on Eva Lepik's photo.
oled jah
28 February 2016 01:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui inimesele meeldivad gayd ja Che samal ajal, see suts vastuoluline pole v?
Kerge segadus ehk?
Kerge segadus ehk?
28 February 2016 01:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kas selles raamatus, vist oli lugu kus ta nende maskoti kutsika, aeglaselt ära piinas ja lämmatas, nii aeglaselt kui tal võimalik oli, õudu suurendamiseks, kas see lugu Sinu soovitatud raamatus on tõsi?
Ma pean selle lehekülje üles otsima... kui Che oma fän selle kui postiivse asja sinna raamatusse pani.. ikka päris kurb noh
Ma pean selle lehekülje üles otsima... kui Che oma fän selle kui postiivse asja sinna raamatusse pani.. ikka päris kurb noh
28 February 2016 01:04
Margus Meigo commented on Eva Lepik's photo.
Tüüp kannab VIIISNURKa, pentagrammi otsaees, et see nagu pole piisav vihje, et tüüp kurjast on v?
(kui pole piisav tema loomade piinamised, orjalaagrid, homode vastane viha, massimõrvad, sadistlikud tapmised, looduse ja naiste vastane promo, vägivalla porno, .... ei imestaks kui ta oma comradidel alkoholis ka püherdada lasi. Et siis lihtsam kuritegusi teha ja vaesed inimesed Nõukodude liidu orjastusse anda. Et ikka täis zombisi saaks toota kes Pentagrammi kurjuse musta maagia võimuäbi siis värsket naise liha oma rituaalide jaoks saaks teha... )
Kui kasvõi ÜKS neist süüsistustest peaks ainult paika, kui ainult Üks neist laagritest ja...
Siis sellest piisaks, et see kellele see inimene meeldib, saata sundravile, kenade põetajatega, ilusa muusika, psühedeelsete ravimite ja tervisliku toiduga,
keskonda kus poleks vägivaldseid filme ega mänge mida sellise kurjuse ajuviirusega nakatunud ülimalt fännavad tihti
(kui pole piisav tema loomade piinamised, orjalaagrid, homode vastane viha, massimõrvad, sadistlikud tapmised, looduse ja naiste vastane promo, vägivalla porno, .... ei imestaks kui ta oma comradidel alkoholis ka püherdada lasi. Et siis lihtsam kuritegusi teha ja vaesed inimesed Nõukodude liidu orjastusse anda. Et ikka täis zombisi saaks toota kes Pentagrammi kurjuse musta maagia võimuäbi siis värsket naise liha oma rituaalide jaoks saaks teha... )
Kui kasvõi ÜKS neist süüsistustest peaks ainult paika, kui ainult Üks neist laagritest ja...
Siis sellest piisaks, et see kellele see inimene meeldib, saata sundravile, kenade põetajatega, ilusa muusika, psühedeelsete ravimite ja tervisliku toiduga,
keskonda kus poleks vägivaldseid filme ega mänge mida sellise kurjuse ajuviirusega nakatunud ülimalt fännavad tihti
28 February 2016 00:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
nüüdhakkangi nii tegema
ei ole enam pettumusest kurvapoolne
ei ole enam pettumusest kurvapoolne
27 February 2016 23:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
mmm.. see veel parem kui Taluvõi
või noh.. see ongi.. nagu taluvõi ju aint parem...
ja magusam
või noh.. see ongi.. nagu taluvõi ju aint parem...
ja magusam
27 February 2016 23:45
Margus Meigo commented on Eva Lepik's photo.
kuid yea, seff kindlasti
27 February 2016 23:38
Margus Meigo commented on Eva Lepik's photo.
Välgu ilu on võimas!
27 February 2016 23:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kuid eks siis sööb magusat võileiba
27 February 2016 23:31
Margus Meigo commented on Marta Barinova's photo.
Hey
27 February 2016 05:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
the group of spirit are still on same vibe as on Rome time, even Russia state logo....
27 February 2016 05:11
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Also eventually commies, who is from Greek-Club of Rome are against Women, as their dream is to have all nice boys made with robots and if needed upload their mind in to Internet (the idea about cutting off women from a cycle was long on Greek time..when they told, that women is only good for making another mans.. @ same time Hebrew thought, female is holy Queen, direct connection with a God, as She knows most of the things out of air and gives birth to life). That Sex is ONLY womens right.
This was main conflict between RoMan and REAL jews (not the isreal ones, where 3 largest parties are against Hebrews... they even got communist party there to remind.. who is on control... in their atheistic dreams )
This was main conflict between RoMan and REAL jews (not the isreal ones, where 3 largest parties are against Hebrews... they even got communist party there to remind.. who is on control... in their atheistic dreams )
27 February 2016 05:04
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Just know, MAIN task of commies is to spin up country own people against who ever is ruling them at present, as they invented the 2 party system, left and right. For that reason, that country's that are called "democratic" (Demon-Kaatia..) will newer have peace and independent people, as they are required to keep opposite side alive, all the time.. and the Red spirit will jump in to left and right .. does not matter..
for now, unfortunately they are in mostly jumped in to inside Right.. so this is why also the colors of Democrats are more blue..
but in the end, as long You got Red vs Jack Blue sysem, newer can get clean of corruption and waste of money on this Greek theater.
These kind of people think few hundred year ahead.
(religious ones think thousands...)
but as long you think strongly wrong in every after small amount of time , then all will stay wrong... as long people notice.. that .. common thing, that there is no need to have implemented design of Opposites that needed to keep alive.
How is possible that with hundred years no one have still not figured out, is red or blue good for America.. and not even starting to get on about all the pentagrams that was forced on to your country as a symbol (same as communist china, Pakistan, soviets, all money in EU.. ...)
for now, unfortunately they are in mostly jumped in to inside Right.. so this is why also the colors of Democrats are more blue..
but in the end, as long You got Red vs Jack Blue sysem, newer can get clean of corruption and waste of money on this Greek theater.
These kind of people think few hundred year ahead.
(religious ones think thousands...)
but as long you think strongly wrong in every after small amount of time , then all will stay wrong... as long people notice.. that .. common thing, that there is no need to have implemented design of Opposites that needed to keep alive.
How is possible that with hundred years no one have still not figured out, is red or blue good for America.. and not even starting to get on about all the pentagrams that was forced on to your country as a symbol (same as communist china, Pakistan, soviets, all money in EU.. ...)
27 February 2016 05:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and as a commie, i mean the Old Greek-Roman Empire who was in deal with Odin kind of savage Vikings
yes, they also made Russia later, with Norway robber Rus and..
( this is kind of story that Nordic country kind of thugs are proud about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindr as a "national" story ... )
yes, they also made Russia later, with Norway robber Rus and..
( this is kind of story that Nordic country kind of thugs are proud about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindr as a "national" story ... )
27 February 2016 04:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
As it is a lot about Image,
and on the Age of Females on star-sings it would also freak out and tune in all the superstitious people and witches around the world. (Matriarchy rising, most ancient powers over 5000 years!)
She got few, many skills with these years.
And for sure American can help to put team together to help on her whatever She needs, NSA and Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency - DARPA all are up for giving their hand and US should be proud of these agencies as they only one that make European Union - EU not worry about Russia spyng on anyone as
.. we think "let them spy.. for sure US got 2 bugs inside their bug that hears us"
so whatever they find out.. US will be ding their move before the commies can screw us
as they know
whats up
better :)
So yea as a conservative religious hippie i approve that message
and on the Age of Females on star-sings it would also freak out and tune in all the superstitious people and witches around the world. (Matriarchy rising, most ancient powers over 5000 years!)
She got few, many skills with these years.
And for sure American can help to put team together to help on her whatever She needs, NSA and Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency - DARPA all are up for giving their hand and US should be proud of these agencies as they only one that make European Union - EU not worry about Russia spyng on anyone as
.. we think "let them spy.. for sure US got 2 bugs inside their bug that hears us"
so whatever they find out.. US will be ding their move before the commies can screw us
as they know
whats up
better :)
So yea as a conservative religious hippie i approve that message
27 February 2016 04:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
she looks naturally like fitting in to high class:
http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/double_x/doublex/2015/12/151222_DX_Clinton-Praise.jpg.
http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/double_x/doublex/2015/12/151222_DX_Clinton-Praise.jpg.
http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/double_x/doublex/2015/12/151222_DX_Clinton-Praise.jpg
27 February 2016 04:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and she is all texting to Elizabeth in UK
"you girl, whats happening"
https://llwproductions.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/hillary_blackberry_0.jpg
"you girl, whats happening"
https://llwproductions.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/hillary_blackberry_0.jpg
https://llwproductions.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/hillary_blackberry_0.jpg
27 February 2016 04:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and then She is like: HA! Got Ya Commie!
http://jtf.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/hillary-clinton-laughing.jpg
http://jtf.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/hillary-clinton-laughing.jpg
http://jtf.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/hillary-clinton-laughing.jpg
27 February 2016 04:28
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Can You imagine Sending Her to meet up other country conservative red and towel heads
Even George would not be able to beat that with "lets slaughter the pig" talk on Germany UN Muslim - Arab peace talk (that he did)
if any man would be able to wear this outfit, then these are the kinds that only Steve would know about
and we cant be so hard on anyone in international level
Even George would not be able to beat that with "lets slaughter the pig" talk on Germany UN Muslim - Arab peace talk (that he did)
if any man would be able to wear this outfit, then these are the kinds that only Steve would know about
and we cant be so hard on anyone in international level
27 February 2016 04:26
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Say all that, i still think Hillary will make a hilariously serious and needed ruler for a four years, but at no cost more, but just would love to see all these Arab faces when the have to give honor to a women whose husband got also notorious image that is not appropriate to know about but everyone does ... and she as women , is in another level, not forced to wear slave clothing like tie..
so making any kind of other culture clothing not having any major upper hand on entire nation, (as in Europe and Old Lands they look based on Looks, who is it...) on future pictures when they are looked, these Tools with a tie looking all goofy try to play important because got friends with a most advanced stealth swat mob on that time on command... but having no real human deep cultural character that is only thing counting in Old Lands
but she can play out all kind of things, even looking sexy if needed and get UN and IsiS specially confused on the level that their oxygen flow is cut of from abomination and of the things they can not say as it is not appropriate to say against women
so making any kind of other culture clothing not having any major upper hand on entire nation, (as in Europe and Old Lands they look based on Looks, who is it...) on future pictures when they are looked, these Tools with a tie looking all goofy try to play important because got friends with a most advanced stealth swat mob on that time on command... but having no real human deep cultural character that is only thing counting in Old Lands
but she can play out all kind of things, even looking sexy if needed and get UN and IsiS specially confused on the level that their oxygen flow is cut of from abomination and of the things they can not say as it is not appropriate to say against women
27 February 2016 04:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but besides that we really warm people
if You agree with us, on truth
if You agree with us, on truth
27 February 2016 03:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
While smiling, soon after that with friendly hand sing :
"aaah... ("as they say") who remind the old thing...
poke the eyeballs out of your head "
and now when the other One is not sensible to stay quiet
then fallows
".. Hey! You still have to start to run your mouth on me, you kind are like that...are you??"
" hey people, you know what he told last time? He thinks that.. "
sometimes, is possible to explain Ones change of mind and express your happiness of how all that made you think about it and change your mind...and...
(on last option, a light but deep investigation, with a cutting eye look down your soul, will fallow about to find out if you are true, for real)
"aaah... ("as they say") who remind the old thing...
poke the eyeballs out of your head "
and now when the other One is not sensible to stay quiet
then fallows
".. Hey! You still have to start to run your mouth on me, you kind are like that...are you??"
" hey people, you know what he told last time? He thinks that.. "
sometimes, is possible to explain Ones change of mind and express your happiness of how all that made you think about it and change your mind...and...
(on last option, a light but deep investigation, with a cutting eye look down your soul, will fallow about to find out if you are true, for real)
27 February 2016 03:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
a year later
27 February 2016 03:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And out of caring, that we did not just spit hot air,
we keep reminding to the One, out laud on public closed spaces like a bus or in a hospital waiting room "hey commie, do you still think your anti human views about supporting that view of... "
we keep reminding to the One, out laud on public closed spaces like a bus or in a hospital waiting room "hey commie, do you still think your anti human views about supporting that view of... "
27 February 2016 03:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
it usually starts like that, moments before getting personal:
"my grandmother worked in here...i have to pay taxes and you live in MY land and enjoying MY country walking around free destroying our species with your ... .... views, now because we can not shoot your kind anymore by law ...." "...no, it does not mater that your grandfather was born here"
and as there is same word for a Earth, Land and for a Country , then it usually takes epic scope, condemned other one sharing same space with you, literally, space as a space time
"my grandmother worked in here...i have to pay taxes and you live in MY land and enjoying MY country walking around free destroying our species with your ... .... views, now because we can not shoot your kind anymore by law ...." "...no, it does not mater that your grandfather was born here"
and as there is same word for a Earth, Land and for a Country , then it usually takes epic scope, condemned other one sharing same space with you, literally, space as a space time
27 February 2016 03:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
culture lessons from Estonia
It is probably also because there is already to few of us, and we get passionate about others being wrong, so... that would just lower the numbers even more
It is probably also because there is already to few of us, and we get passionate about others being wrong, so... that would just lower the numbers even more
27 February 2016 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
yo Steve Your familia is pretty political
We ain't a lot these ones around here, we can talk about having sex with your brothers wife but political opinions people look to you like "Why did You needed to say that"
unless You all agree,
You newer start a politic discussion unless You all agree or you can completely annihilate the One in wrong opinion (having Two people in same kind of wrong opinion when You are at 7+ is already to much (the Two much) ).
We keep things equal here. Equally same. partly
We ain't a lot these ones around here, we can talk about having sex with your brothers wife but political opinions people look to you like "Why did You needed to say that"
unless You all agree,
You newer start a politic discussion unless You all agree or you can completely annihilate the One in wrong opinion (having Two people in same kind of wrong opinion when You are at 7+ is already to much (the Two much) ).
We keep things equal here. Equally same. partly
27 February 2016 03:31
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's photo.
yeah, whatever, but who is the woman on left
27 February 2016 03:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but video at least has a meaning in, more
27 February 2016 02:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and from there you end up in a song with these lyrics:
"Starting at 0:38... Hooters Disco!! ...No puss for me!! ...Uncle is aging!! ...Fus-Ro-Dah eggs!!! ...Cow Lord owned you!! ...Lord Vader's crying!! ...Buy wool, Solo, for goaty and kiss soy beeeeaaan!!!!! ...Mmm, slap that! I wash poooo!!! ...Ewwwww, I smell poo, fake Hippie poooooo!!!!! ...Strike this pussy rock through Milf's son!! ...Unlock the Smurf's spliff free!!! "
Is that joke on people who listen that or what, what a spell! :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4pzLJdHddU&index=34&list=RDy82M11d79pg
How is that even possible
"Starting at 0:38... Hooters Disco!! ...No puss for me!! ...Uncle is aging!! ...Fus-Ro-Dah eggs!!! ...Cow Lord owned you!! ...Lord Vader's crying!! ...Buy wool, Solo, for goaty and kiss soy beeeeaaan!!!!! ...Mmm, slap that! I wash poooo!!! ...Ewwwww, I smell poo, fake Hippie poooooo!!!!! ...Strike this pussy rock through Milf's son!! ...Unlock the Smurf's spliff free!!! "
Is that joke on people who listen that or what, what a spell! :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4pzLJdHddU&index=34&list=RDy82M11d79pg
How is that even possible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4pzLJdHddU&index=34&list=RDy82M11d79pg
27 February 2016 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nimi on hea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AbsD9bLVa4&index=27&list=RDy82M11d79pg so we end up in there and fro mthere..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AbsD9bLVa4&index=27&list=RDy82M11d79pg
27 February 2016 02:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
""We became parts of a greater whole
The black hole sees a light"" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y82M11d79pg
Would not ever think that innit, from them
The black hole sees a light"" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y82M11d79pg
Would not ever think that innit, from them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y82M11d79pg
27 February 2016 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
27 February 2016 02:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
veel mitte omateada
27 February 2016 02:22
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's live video.
reets : )
26 February 2016 23:54
Margus Meigo replied to Henry Murumaa's comment.
Group: Tutvus
Ning palju iroonilisem tähelepanek ju peaks olema selle ministeeriumi osas...26 February 2016 23:26
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Proovi ühendust võtta ka Janika Metsallikuga, ta aasta ema tiitli sai ka vist korra,
tema mees neljandat põlve on taimetoiduline ja eesti suurima mahemesifirma Paradiisi Mesila omanik26 February 2016 22:58
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Group: Kristlased
piima osas ka.. võid 50/50 proovida selgitada, õigete täiskasvanud sõnadega... pea meeles, temas ka ajas eest suured targad vamud kes aru saavad mida räägid, lisaks lapse viamule
ja siis ütled, et piim ema tissist oli sulle mõeldud ja keha harjunud seda jooma., aga jumal näe lehmaga kokkuleppe tegi, et lehm aitaks naisi kellel piima pole., ajutiselt, erinevate toitude tarvis.. kuid näe see piim ikkagi vasikatele ju mõeldud... ja mida nad lehmaga teevad.. et piima saada... ja see teeb piima haigeks mida poes müüakse palju... mida suudavad juua ainult teatud nahaga lapsed ja inimesed.. ja teatud teistele lastele, kes jumal muude võimetega antud, neile jälle see piim pole üldse kasulik... ja mõni mees jööb kuni hauani ja talle see sobilik, sest hoiab teda rahulikumana kuna saab kaotatud ema armastust läbi lehmapiima tunda...
.. kuid tuleb aeg, kui ka lehmad saavad vabaks... ja jah, reaalselt tuleb õigete asjadega shokeerida ja õpetada,
sest need shokeerimised tulevad nagunii kurjade filmide ja videomängude ja kooli osas.. aga siis jäävad mällu ebakasulikud shokid.. mis last kuidagi kauslikult arendama ei suuna...
aga kui aru saab, et siin kollid tegutsevad.. ja loomi piinatakse.. ja siis .. siis sellest haigeks nad jäänud...
siis ei hirmuta teda ka nende haikeks jäänud laste haige käitumine
niipalju enam26 February 2016 22:56
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Group: Kristlased
kuid õelusel pole piire milega kurjad vaimud ründama hakkavad... mu tuttav selle pärast era privaat väikekooli oma lapsed panigi..26 February 2016 22:52
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Group: Kristlased
kui suudate need lapsed tervena teismelise ikka üksteist toetades tuua.. nii, et nad vastu peaksid teiste norimistele ja rünnakutele... siis see mega saavutus26 February 2016 22:51
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Group: Kristlased
neile tuleb selgitada selgete sõnadega kuidas asi on, et mitte tervilsikuse aspektist niivõrk, kui ,et maailm on haige veel mõnda aega kus kasvad kallis poeg ja nad söövad tükeldatud loomi ja linge oma sõltuvuses ning proovivad teisi ka ned sööma panna, et siis teised haiged oleks koos nendega,
et ta prooviks sellest haigusest loobuda...
ka oluline leida talle võimalikult palju teisi taimetoidu laste võrgustikke, et tal toetustteistelt lastelt tuleks26 February 2016 22:51
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Group: Kristlased
päris kaugemas tulevikus lihatoit tehakse illegaalseks nagunii, kuid seda veel peab ootama... senikaua veel palju tapmist ja lihahimu näha meil..26 February 2016 22:42
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Seda peab suutma õpetada lastele, sest need asjad sügavale vaimu sisse pääsevad,.. ja hiljem välja tulevad..
tuleb meeles pidada kes nende asutuste taga...
selles osas pead KÕIK vanemad kaasa võtma kes toetavad arusaama ja koos väga tuliselt lärmama minema võtttes kaasa veel veganite grupist võitluseks suure hulga inimesi, kui ikka 20-30 ne inimesega koos peale sõidate ja asja väga tuliseks lubate ajada kui nad SINU last sunnivad edasi sööma midagi mida Sina ei soovi.. siis on tulemused tulekul26 February 2016 22:41
Margus Meigo replied to Kaspar Uba's comment.
Group: Tutvus
Kuid jah, usk on oluline, ilma selleta on inimene roboti ja zombi vahepealne, mängukann satanismi juhtivate sõprade organisatsioonide meelevallas.26 February 2016 22:34
Margus Meigo replied to Kristiina Saarsalu's comment.
Group: Tutvus
ning, et mees päriselt väärtuslik oleks : )
(väärtustega)26 February 2016 22:33
Margus Meigo replied to Kristiina Saarsalu's comment.
Group: Tutvus
Ning milline on päris ilu26 February 2016 22:33
Margus Meigo replied to Kristiina Saarsalu's comment.
Group: Tutvus
Nu just sellist jah vaja olekski leida, kes aru saaks mis päris väärtused on26 February 2016 22:33
Margus Meigo replied to Martin Kotter's comment.
Group: Tutvus
Aga ma arvan, et tema vist ise ei ole väga teadlikult huvitatud sellest eksperimendist veel eks?26 February 2016 22:31
Margus Meigo replied to Henry Murumaa's comment.
Group: Tutvus
ROhkem nagu kirjutamise oskusest jah räägin.. igast mata vormid väga olemata jäävad,
kui inimesed päriselt ei julge oma elu kokku võtta paberile. Eks sellel kõigel ole mitu muud tähendust ka,
võlurite värk : )26 February 2016 22:30
Margus Meigo replied to Henry Murumaa's comment.
Group: Tutvus
Need polnud ainukesed vead bdw
kuid Sinu kriitika ikkagi on pigem vajalik, meeldiv26 February 2016 22:27
Margus Meigo replied to Kaspar Uba's comment.
Group: Tutvus
haha, jah kusjuures osad usuvad jah, et nad seda asja päris reaalsete suuruskudega võrrelda saavad :p26 February 2016 22:27
Margus Meigo replied to Henry Murumaa's comment.
Group: Tutvus
Tõsi,
Need asjad saadi nii jäetud põhjusega26 February 2016 22:25
Margus Meigo replied to Kalju Kotkas's comment.
Group: Tutvus Soomes. Meet People In Finland.
umm... aga vb siis ongi parem, vahest :p26 February 2016 22:24
Margus Meigo replied to Andres Sinik's comment.
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Tõsi!26 February 2016 22:16
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Faizullin's comment.
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et kas peaksin Sulle siia seltsi pesema tulema ehk äkki v?
Anna aaddress26 February 2016 22:14
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Faizullin's comment.
Group: Tutvus Soomes. Meet People In Finland.
Ja Veel Sulle Jüri Jalakas ja Erik Faizullin.. et küll Sul ikka päike ere pidevalt.. ja arvad, et on mehelikum siis meestel oma silutud pead blondeerida v ja kõrvarõngaid kanda?
Ning no.. ah mis ma maaslebojat torgin..
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1141216832562254&set=ecnf.100000218450550&type=3&theater26 February 2016 22:12
Margus Meigo replied to Sten TI's comment.
Group: Tutvus Soomes. Meet People In Finland.
On jah,
Kujuta ette, mul siin pildi all enne kaks silutud mees, kellel ma ei imestaks, kui lips ka, jalutusketike kaelas, tulid kobisema mehelikuse osas ja Habeme vastu xD
Jeerum, see umbes sama, kui hakkad naist norima, et viimasel pikad juuksed26 February 2016 22:08
Margus Meigo replied to Kalju Kotkas's comment.
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põhimõteliselt küll jah : )
Sest me tegeleme päris reaalselt suurte asjadega.. pole mõtet ju .. kui inimestel pole soovi tõsiselt sügavalt suhelda26 February 2016 22:06
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Faizullin's comment.
Group: Tutvus Soomes. Meet People In Finland.
Jüri Jalakas ja Erik Faizullin teile silutud roomameeste meeldijatele, väikene uudiseke, et "ÕIGEm" mees Just Pigem ongi habemega, kuidas Sa nii elementaarse asja tagurpidi keerata said ? (ma ju tean muidugi, retooriline küsimus, uurinud Teie suguseid pikalt...)
See, et homosõjaväe Alexander Suurhomo kultuur Greeka-Rooma ajast oma silutud poiste fantaasiad "kultuurinormiks" tegi, sest silutud pügatud_mehed on maast ja taevast kergemini eraldatud ning väiksematele arusaamadele suunatud, see ei tähenda, et siis kõik mehed unustanud oleks, mis on iseseisvus.
Tõepoolest, need kellel karvad lõigatud on vähem tundlikumad, vähem mõistvamad ja kergemini sõltuvustes ning psühholoogia neil mitu astet nõrgem, kuid sõjamasinaks, ühiskonna kontrolliks ja lipsu orjaks sobivad küll (ühiskonna juhtide arvates).26 February 2016 22:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
Nii see on ines, nii see on...
ja siis need head, kes maailma puhtaks teevad tollles uues ilmas.. peavad nendega tegelema ja neid taga ajama kes noaga me sõpru söövad...26 February 2016 21:56
Margus Meigo replied to Veronika Räihä's comment.
Group: Kristlased
ja jumal ei saa meie südame ligi nii hästi, kui see searasvaga kaetud ja teiste loomade verega. See peaks lihtne arusaam olema. Või siis loogikat kasutada selles osas.
Kuid nagu ma ütlesin, on neid kelle süda ja teod on paremad ja nende sõrmedele rohkem läbi sõrmede vaadatakse .. kuid ei tohi ka liiga fanaatiliseks sellel ajal veel minna taimede osas.. st liha keelamise osas neile kes lihast sõltuvuses.. sest on ka igast muid taimetoidu gruppe, ja ka mingite teatud tegelaste eest on ka piiblis hoiatatud, kes keelavad süüa ühte või teist... et naug vaenlane kopeerib kõike26 February 2016 21:54
Margus Meigo replied to Sirle Ams's comment.
Group: Kristlased
sest need vaimud kes meid kinni hoiavad, ei soovi neid puhastavaid seeni ja vaimu targemaks tegevaid taimi, sest siis saaksime oma vigadest kergemini aru ja ei saaks nii kergelt oma keha nende kasutusse anda kes seda ilma loata kasutavad26 February 2016 21:50
Margus Meigo replied to Sirle Ams's comment.
Group: Kristlased
See väga paha arusaam, et KÕIKE tuleb mõõdukalt suust sisse ajada... ega ikka ei tule küll..
ja samas, inimesed kes seda ütlevad, seda ise ei usu. Kui ma neile maagilisi seeni annan või kanepit siis kohe kisa lahti.. et seda osa nende arvates Jumal ei soovi...
siis kohe unustatakse see "kõike vaja" ja "mis suust sisse see ei riku" osa ära26 February 2016 21:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
et kui lõplikul "tasemel" keegi oli või mitte26 February 2016 21:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
ega muud häda pole midagi, lihtsalt paradiisis on AINULT taimetoitlased. See on absoluutne fakt, isegi hundid ei söö seal liha.
kuid jah...
et vaba voli antud, kas Odini jms jälgedes käia.. või siis Jumala inimeste.
Ainukesed inimesed kes patuta on piiblis on need kes on taimetoitlased, onju?
Jeesus ise oli ka taimetoitlane, see ka kuidagi unustada soovitakse...Oled mitte taimetoitlasest nazariiti kohanud v? jah, taimetoitlastest usumehed söövad viisakusest ka liha, teatud olukordades see nõutud..., kuid enamasti peab sellele vastu seisma. (selleks ka lohutussõnad, mis hetkeks antud raamatus...et lihaga mürgitus pole täielik.. kui ajutiselt, sunni olukorras)
Miks Sa arvad, miks piiblis üles loetud on suure hulga inimeste menüü mida nad sõid? Kuna piiblis on ainult kõige olulisem kirjas ja pole kohatäieteks midagi ülearust.. siis kas oled mõelnud, miks kirjeldatakse inimeste toitumisi.. isegi kui pühad mehed Joosepi pool maandusi.. või inglid.. isegi neile liha veristati... et aru saaksid reaalsusest, MILLEGA tegu.26 February 2016 21:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
ma armastan sigasi26 February 2016 21:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Ning tuleb meeles hoida ka, et See on vaenlase huvides, meil toidulaua hoida sellisena nagu see on.. näiteks eks sa proovi praekapsast ilma searasvata poest leida... ei leia...
ja mulle searasvaga süüa on peaaegu samahea kui inimrasvaga, tõsiselt ka, selline tunne on ja kui searasva maitset eraldi oled eraldama õppinud..siis eriti jälgiks lähb26 February 2016 21:37
Margus Meigo replied to Klarika Sild-Rõmkevitš's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Tänulik peaks olema, kui keegi Su vigasi jumala ees välja toob!26 February 2016 21:34
Margus Meigo replied to Sirle Ams's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Piiblis pole ka öeldud, et "me ei tohi" viina juua, kuid saame aru , et seda ei peaks tegema
Kui ei saada aru, et ei ole jumalale meele järgi, kui sööd loomi, siis peab ikka piiblit palju tõsisemalt lugema hakkama26 February 2016 21:33
Margus Meigo replied to Ines Pärna's comment.
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seda ka aint siis kui tal vaja või kui tahab teada26 February 2016 19:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
ja ei saa võrrelda, et maitseaineid kui erladi maitseme et siis need ka veidrad... kuigi vb mitte nii kibedad ku isool... sest ei saa võrrelda kuna maitseained on kõrvallleem, kohi aga põhi värv ja maitse... mis suhruga segunedes heaks me meeltes muutub26 February 2016 19:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
kuid jah.. jutt siis oli kohvist... sellel ika omad asjad tunduvad veidrad... ja kui kohvi paljalt maitsta... siis ikka veider asi on26 February 2016 19:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Ei nu jutt on õige, lihtsalt kuigi me peame olema karmid selles osas, siis naiste oma vahel võtke asja ka suts leebemalt ja armastusega rohkem, mitte nii militarisltikult, muidu jääb mulje, et taimed eriti armastusäärseks ei tee inimesi. (kuigi tegelikult on teema, et inimene kes päris taimetoiduline näeb ka loomi linde isikutena ja siis nende tappmisele kaasa aidates ta otseselt saab aru, et siis ka inimeste söömisele ja tapmisele kaasa aitame (tee teistele mida sulle võidakse teha), lisaks neile valu tegemisele ja mustale maagiale mis sellest välja tuleb ja ringiga meisse siseneb... )
Mehe osas jah.. võime karmimad olla kui ta liha sööb sest ta ise pole uut liha maailma sünnitanud...
et tuleb osata armastada ka lihasööjaid, kuid lihtsalt hoolt kanda, et teine armastusega seda sööks kui verejänu ajab liha järele
see liha sõltuvuse tunne on tugev,
kuid liha söömise puhtuse tasemed päris erinevad...
muidugi teatud mõttes pole oluline, kas sööd põllega naabrimehe last või mustade kätega... kui kenasti teiste last süüa ega see väga palju kenamaks olukorda ei tee.
Korrad kui ma olen söönud liha, siis ma arvestangi nüüd sellega, et mida see tegelikult tähenab26 February 2016 19:37
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
need vitamiinid mis lihas on taimedes palju paremini omandatvad, sest lihasse need taimedest tulid ja jääkained pole tiamedel nii palju, mille välja töötlemiseks vaja lisa aineid... kui ainult liha süüa siis inimene pidi vähem kui paari kuuga 100% kindlalt ära surema.
Kui tatart ainult 2 aaastat süüa siis ei sure ühti...26 February 2016 19:27
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
mingeid vitamiine muidugi kehas pole mida vajaksime (kui peab paika, et eri inimestes on eri loomade ja lindude, taimede vaimud ja hinged.. keda me toidame.. siis osaliselt võib ajutiselt olla lubatud... kuid nagu öeldi.. tuleb aeg mil ka hundid söövad õlgi.. ega siis ei osatud vist arvata, et nad seda läbi inimese mõelda võisid.. et tasub mõelda..)
lisaks shamaaniliku, loodustarga vaatevinklist, jumala muudest tarkustest lähtuvalt veel saab liha olla ajutine meditsiin oma keha tervendamiseks erinevate kahjuste puhul, kus vaimu muudes maailmades me oma keha üles ehitame, süües korra paar liha... kui keegi käe ära ammustanud ja vaja uus asemele kasvatada vms (muudes ilmades kellega me seotud)
siin maal aga, jah.. on põhjus miks piibel taimetoiduline on
ja miks ta toonitab tugevalt taimetoidu kasulikust, alguses kohe, öeldes, et taimed meile on toiduks... ja siegi hiljem peale patu tulekut, ta ikka veel mitme taimetoidulise jutga tuleb sisse kus selgitab mis moodi kogu keha, tervis ja vaim hoopis tervem on kui taimi süüa.
Muidugi tean väga vanu inimesi kes soolapekki söönud surmani, ei tea kas nad ka vaimselt ja hingeliselt kohal olid aga mõistuselt ika tundusid teravad ja kehalt terved. Seega eks kindlasti on oluline mis südamega toitu sööd, kas austuse ja armastusega või ...
eks mul endal kõige rohkem veel vaja õppida toidu osas, mis ma siin teile moraalitsen..26 February 2016 19:26
Margus Meigo replied to Ene Hiob's comment.
Group: Kristlased
oota aga miks on sedasi, et kõik kes arvavad, et mis suust sisse läheb see meid ei riku, kuid siis kui selle sama suuga narkootikume, viina, suhkrusaiakesi, rämpstoitu pidevalt süüa.. siis tundub, et see vanasõna ikka paika ei pea... et midagi selles sõnas me oleme ikka tõlkinud valesti...
VÕi on seda siis mõeldud ekstreem juhtudel..
piibli tarkused tuleb ikka kombineerida, üksikult võttes need lähevad teistega vastuollu, et võtad salmi, ja siis kogu ülejäänud piibli kontektstis, pannes järjekorras kõige alla kõige olulisemad ning selle peale järgmisel tasemel tarkusi...
ehk kõik mis suust sisse läheb ei riku vaid see mis suust välja tuleb, jah, see suur tõde aga samas, see enam siis ei kehti kui suust sisse panna järje panu, vabatahtlikult, ikka ja jälle asju mis näitavad, et Sa oma keha Jumala templiks ei pea. Siis juba asi kiivas.. ja siis kui suust sisse kallata igast valesi asju, hakkab ka suust välja tulema igast valesi asju26 February 2016 19:21
Margus Meigo commented on Miriam Tomponzi's post.
What is that about ?
You make a new movie?
You make a new movie?
26 February 2016 15:56
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Johanson's post.
Nu soovitavad vähemalt
26 February 2016 10:27
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Johanson's post.
Muidugi ei tasu isreali kes on juutide vastane sassi ajada juutide ehk heebrialastega... kes siis pole need kes omal näo siledaks ajanud ja lipsu ümber kaela pannud
26 February 2016 10:26
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Johanson's post.
suurimat naiste ja juudi vastast viha vist on raskem leida kui tolle kuti kirjadest
26 February 2016 10:23
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Johanson's post.
Ma ie saa aru kuidas martin lutsiferi opetused siiani lubatud on, lausa usuraadios lastakse, nagu tegu poleksi asjaga mis Hitleri valele teele ajas
26 February 2016 10:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ups, ma edasi tööle nüüd, st.. see ka mu töö kuid praegu veel mu töö ka pooleni alustamisel :p
26 February 2016 10:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Islamisusulised kes PÄRIS usulised, mitte need "moslemid" BBC ekraanilt, kes põhimõtteliselt selle sama odini suguste sohilapsed, päris islmaiusulased kes vaimses sõjas osalevad, nagu päris kristlased kes vaimusõjas.. et nad tevad väga hästi millega tegu ja kui oluline on selliste vastu tegutseda.. eriti kuna nad on julgenud uuesti avalikult nähtavale tulla.. enamasti nad oma võimu saavutades peituvad.. kuid eks siin vaja sarvi näidata nüüd... ja see hea, siis saab sarvedest suslikutel kinni..
26 February 2016 10:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See oli siis piisavalt hea ja uhkust kandev element, mis detailselt säilitati, eesmärgiga näidata kuidas toimetada vaenlaste: naistega
et kui muidu ei saa siis teeskle naist, et talle kätte maksta ja siis...
et kui muidu ei saa siis teeskle naist, et talle kätte maksta ja siis...
26 February 2016 10:12
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Johanson's post.
Inimesed võiks ikka teada ka mida toetavad:
"The most detailed account is in Book III of the Gesta Danorum, written by Saxo Grammaticus around the early 13th century. There she is called Rinda and is the daughter of the King of the Ruthenians. After Balderus' death Odin consulted seers on how to get revenge. On their advice Odin went to the Ruthenians disguised as a warrior called Roster. There he was twice turned down by Rinda. He then wrote runes on a piece of bark and touched her with it, causing her to go mad, and disguised himself as a medicine woman called Wecha, who was allowed to see her. Finally she fell ill; the disguised Odin then said he had medicine with which to cure her but that it would cause a violent reaction. On Odin's advice, the king tied Rinda to her bed, and Odin proceeded to rape her. From the rape was born Bous, who would later avenge Balderus"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindr
"The most detailed account is in Book III of the Gesta Danorum, written by Saxo Grammaticus around the early 13th century. There she is called Rinda and is the daughter of the King of the Ruthenians. After Balderus' death Odin consulted seers on how to get revenge. On their advice Odin went to the Ruthenians disguised as a warrior called Roster. There he was twice turned down by Rinda. He then wrote runes on a piece of bark and touched her with it, causing her to go mad, and disguised himself as a medicine woman called Wecha, who was allowed to see her. Finally she fell ill; the disguised Odin then said he had medicine with which to cure her but that it would cause a violent reaction. On Odin's advice, the king tied Rinda to her bed, and Odin proceeded to rape her. From the rape was born Bous, who would later avenge Balderus"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindr
26 February 2016 10:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Odin oli ju see kes toetas mass vägistamisi ja jõhkralt laste ning kelle iganes mõrvamisi kes neid ees, kes kristlased või kes ei soovinud alluda ja anda neile mida iganes soovivad..
eks siin minevikus mitmeid sodalasi olnud kes odinit appi kutsunud ja mis sest saanud..
eks siin minevikus mitmeid sodalasi olnud kes odinit appi kutsunud ja mis sest saanud..
26 February 2016 10:10
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Johanson's post.
Saab ka nii vaadata:
Seda ikka teatakse, et milline Deemon odin on?
Vähemalt Islamiusulased teevad sammu sellise asja peatamise suhtes midagi, kuigi sellega peaksime meie enda kohalikud vaimulikud tegelema. Sest riigil ilmselgelt sellise ajaloo sügavad teamdised puuduvad.
Seda ikka teatakse, et milline Deemon odin on?
Vähemalt Islamiusulased teevad sammu sellise asja peatamise suhtes midagi, kuigi sellega peaksime meie enda kohalikud vaimulikud tegelema. Sest riigil ilmselgelt sellise ajaloo sügavad teamdised puuduvad.
26 February 2016 10:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Just if You wondered
(I just post these things to here ,to keep in mind, what to deal with later, like personal notebook.
Nearly all posts, for that reason )
(I just post these things to here ,to keep in mind, what to deal with later, like personal notebook.
Nearly all posts, for that reason )
26 February 2016 08:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
And any new reply You send, about ANY category,
whatever You send, will go to "duplicate"
I think they not know who they messing with... it is not first time we have take Brits on.. (ja ma isegi ei räägi siinkohal Puuri sõdadest (kus saaremaalased imperialistide vastu lõuna aafrikasse võitlema läksid, millest meil ka see tänavanimi siiani seal...))
whatever You send, will go to "duplicate"
I think they not know who they messing with... it is not first time we have take Brits on.. (ja ma isegi ei räägi siinkohal Puuri sõdadest (kus saaremaalased imperialistide vastu lõuna aafrikasse võitlema läksid, millest meil ka see tänavanimi siiani seal...))
26 February 2016 07:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
who would ACCEPT money from country x
as bank
and then would say, You can not get it back, because You are from country X ???
as bank
and then would say, You can not get it back, because You are from country X ???
26 February 2016 07:57
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
hahaha
feel ya bro
feel ya bro
26 February 2016 07:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et siis sihtmärgist, miks nad siia ilma sündisid
26 February 2016 07:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muidugi võib alati ka pereraadio peale panna, kuid mingisugune Luteri vaim eelmine nädal sai hoo sisse ja siis need asjad ajavad veelgi rohkem vaimu turri kui vaimupimedate sihtmärgist mööda laskmised
26 February 2016 07:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey, panen raadio kinni nüüd, enne kui liialt .. need 2 kutti ka täna eetris tööl siiamaani
26 February 2016 07:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Raadioralli jätkub: on ikka arvamus, "kui õlle 1 euro asemel 2 eurot maksab ega see õlle ikka ostmata ei jää" . ning siis mögisevad edasi: "Ega joomata ikka ei jää.. mingit joooomist see küll ei piira... nu ja suitsetamisel ka ju keegi ei räägi, et maksab palju ja siis ei suitseta" - REALLY??? Nagu jälle, kuidas saavad igast inimesed raadios rääkida suust välja midagi, mille psüholoogilist reaktsiooni ta vaimuhaigete ja joodikute ning sõltuvuste käes vaevlevate ajus toimuvast aru ei saa... MITTEMINGISUGUST tugifiltrit siis ei ole Riigiraadiol v?
Nii rahavaese riigi puhul nagu meie, kellest suur hult materiaalseks ja rahapeale fokuseerivaks läinud, praktiliseks, neile kõige paremini mõjub just raha peale pigistamine joomise osas, sest ega see kui rääkida, et see viamu nüristab ja alaarengut näitab kui täiskasvanud inimene siiamaani mõtetusi sisse lürbib endale.. see isegi ei lähe ühest kõrvast sisse mitte neile kel kõrvad mustad
Nii rahavaese riigi puhul nagu meie, kellest suur hult materiaalseks ja rahapeale fokuseerivaks läinud, praktiliseks, neile kõige paremini mõjub just raha peale pigistamine joomise osas, sest ega see kui rääkida, et see viamu nüristab ja alaarengut näitab kui täiskasvanud inimene siiamaani mõtetusi sisse lürbib endale.. see isegi ei lähe ühest kõrvast sisse mitte neile kel kõrvad mustad
26 February 2016 07:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Inimesed kes toetavad demokraatiat ei oma mingit adekvaatsust kritiseerida usukorda" : ) (Y)
isegi kui nad vastaste kehasi lühendavad.
Selleks on ikka adekvaatsed inimesed. Kas või Mormonid
isegi kui nad vastaste kehasi lühendavad.
Selleks on ikka adekvaatsed inimesed. Kas või Mormonid
26 February 2016 07:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vaimse Tervise Strateegia edastatakse ka Linnavalitsusele,
Loodetavasti see nii kõrgel tasemel tehtud inimeste poolt, kes suudavad sinna seostada ka taolised uudised nagu: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3th7vo_magic-mushrooms-on-cnn-long-lasting-positive-effects_news
Loodetavasti see nii kõrgel tasemel tehtud inimeste poolt, kes suudavad sinna seostada ka taolised uudised nagu: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3th7vo_magic-mushrooms-on-cnn-long-lasting-positive-effects_news
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3th7vo_magic-mushrooms-on-cnn-long-lasting-positive-effects_news
26 February 2016 07:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vabandust kui see postitus eelmise optimistliku postituse varju paneb - vast ei peaks raadiot käima panema nii vara veel ?
26 February 2016 07:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Näe, on võimalik positiivseid uudiseid toota küll, ei pea minigt jama tootma!
26 February 2016 06:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja lõpuks ometi, mis ma ammu rääkinud olen, tuleb lihtsalt lubada joonistada kohtadesse, mis seisavad koledana:
http://www.tallinn.ee/est/Uudis-Fassaadid-korda-projekt-lubab-toetust-seinamaalinguteks?&filter_otsing_uudis_rubriik_id=35
http://www.tallinn.ee/est/Uudis-Fassaadid-korda-projekt-lubab-toetust-seinamaalinguteks?&filter_otsing_uudis_rubriik_id=35
http://www.tallinn.ee/est/Uudis-Fassaadid-korda-projekt-lubab-toetust-seinamaalinguteks?&filter_otsing_uudis_rubriik_id=35
26 February 2016 06:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja kaks head uudist siin kohe: http://www.tallinn.ee/est/Uudis-Tallinna-supelrandades-hakkab-kehtima-suitsukeeld?&filter_otsing_uudis_rubriik_id=35
http://www.tallinn.ee/est/Uudis-Tallinna-supelrandades-hakkab-kehtima-suitsukeeld?&filter_otsing_uudis_rubriik_id=35
26 February 2016 06:57
Margus Meigo commented on Stella Shakti's post.
Group: Maagiline Reiki – Terviklikkuse Õpetused
oeh, ei saanud nii selgelt ja suurelt seda kirjutada kui plaanisin..26 February 2016 04:15
Margus Meigo commented on Stella Shakti's post.
Group: Maagiline Reiki – Terviklikkuse Õpetused
aru saada, et me maailm on olulise mmis meil on, põhiusega pandud tunentama meid , et ketas.. ja on oluline, erit ipuid siin kasvatada...26 February 2016 04:15
Margus Meigo commented on Stella Shakti's post.
Group: Maagiline Reiki – Terviklikkuse Õpetused
kui kellegil raske on arusaada, kuidas maaKera on ümar kuid lapikul kettal, siis selgitage neile, et google earth mahub ka kettale.. kuid see mis kujuga kogle earth on ja kui mis suguseid universumi ta näitab. see ei muuda ketta enda struktuuri mitte karvavõrdki
samamoodi see maialmade ja hingede tehas kus ränanud olen.... see suur hoone, on ka suht kandiline ja mitmesuguste laboritega.. ja jah.. iga meele jaoks veel oma maailm.. kuid ärgu nüüd arvaku küll, et kogu asi siin on ümmargune.. see onainulkt see väike osa mis mei lsiin on, see mis väljaspool seda on poile isegi meie asi praegu mõelda26 February 2016 04:14
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Mändmets's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Mudugi Eesti Vabariigil ja Eesti Rahvapärimusriigil.. need suts 10 000 + aastase mõõduga erinevad..26 February 2016 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
See ajast kui Eesti vabariik vabastab kogu Jumala Loomeriigi
ja siis pole tasuta transport ainult tallinnas vaid mitme muu maailma vahel vastavalt vaimurikkusele (vaimukergusele, raskeid vaime.. nu füüsika lihtsalt ei luba neil kaugele minna ja nad saavad konnata kindlamate pindade peal aint)26 February 2016 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Minut 23, võib olla ka VÄGA oluline26 February 2016 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
minut 23, ka oluline usun26 February 2016 01:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
eelkõige, pidevalt,
igalsammul
Ning ärge palun siinkohal viga tehke, ja ärge Minu puhul nende asjade vastu palvetama hakate, teete nii mulle sellega kurja ja ega teil endla ka parem ei hakka, kui matemaatiliselt pärast vaadatakse Su kahju mida tegid.
Soovita lihtsalt seda mulle mida Jumala teenimise jaoks vaja ning kaitset nende peidetud jõudude kasutamiseks. Suurima hea nimel,
ära oma inim arvamust pane asjadesse, millesildid sinna luteri või muude vedrate poolusklikuteinimeste poolt pandud
Miks pool?
Sest inimesed peavad arusaama, Kes oli Martin tegelikult... mida ta naistest ja jumalarahvast, kelle JUMAL valis arvas... ja mida neile soovis... see näitab kõik..26 February 2016 01:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
mul endal neid nii sügavaid palved mis enesepuhastustunde ja pisarad silma, maailma paremaks ümberingi hetkega muudab, enesekoristus, maja koristus tunde jms peale paneb, need peaaegu alati ainult tänu kanepi (jms) õigele kasutusele saanud olema,
see muidugi võib tunduda imelik osadele, sest arusaama pole õpetatud milleks need taimed tegelikult on ja kuidas neid peaks kasutama ... need alkoholi vastased ained ja taimed on kõige enam keelatud viisnurga poolt millegi pärast ja täitsa utoopiliis kirjeldusi ja "uuringuid" nende kallal tehakse.. samal ajal, kui tõestusmaterial on taevakõrgune, teatud ainete jumalapoolsusest, mis aitab keha puhastada jamast ja sõltuvustest, et saaksid pärast puhtalt otse palvetada ja uskuda, kergemini, tihedamini, sügavamalt, siiramini26 February 2016 01:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Minutist u 10. eriti. Kuid, ma ise pole päris kindel, et tegu on tulega, kõva palve puhul... selles osas võib olla, et me vb trikitatakse meid tulena oma palvet nägema, et siis põletada taevaseid kohtasi... see võib olla võimalik. Nad nii targad küll, et sedasi tõde jagada. Ja väikestes vigades on... seega keskendu plavele mitte selle välimusele, kuigi, kui see tagateadvuses korra juba on, see pilt.. siis võib olla raske.. eriti kuna need kollid ka suitsu sarnased olid video alguses.. kuid videos olevat infot tuleb kuulata usun...
Muidugi neid pilte vist ei tasu vaadata igaks juhuks.
Mees ennast kuulake ka filtriga, võttes infot, kuna ma veel pole kindel ta südames aga info mida ta jagab inimlikult tundub päris soov26 February 2016 00:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1852747235160&set=a.10205516869377851&type=3&theater
26 February 2016 00:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
On the Re-Beginning
26 February 2016 00:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Seiklejate Vennaskonna vabatahtlikud
ur!!!!!!!!! Keegi ei võta ühendust!26 February 2016 00:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"inimesed kes elavad vaestes (mitte rahatus, vaid vaestes) piirkondades varastavad palju rohkem kui politseinikud "
või "sõdurid tapavad palju rohkem inimesi kui terroristid.." või no neid väärastunud näiteid mis tõena kõlavad saab palju tuua, kuid mis nende elementaarsete lausete point, motiiv ja kasu on ?
või "sõdurid tapavad palju rohkem inimesi kui terroristid.." või no neid väärastunud näiteid mis tõena kõlavad saab palju tuua, kuid mis nende elementaarsete lausete point, motiiv ja kasu on ?
26 February 2016 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ma ikka ei suuda uskuda seda haiget lauset pildi all,
still cant belive this sick sentence under the picture...
it is so wrong in so many levels, it is even hard to unravel it, as it unpacks as "true" in most people minds. Without them asking, WHY this sentence was written like that...
still cant belive this sick sentence under the picture...
it is so wrong in so many levels, it is even hard to unravel it, as it unpacks as "true" in most people minds. Without them asking, WHY this sentence was written like that...
26 February 2016 00:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Kristlased
Kuid eks kasutame kõike, selleks milleks vaja... eks saab ka häda pärast viinajoomist rakendada kristlikuks tegevuseks kui vaja joodikute hingesisse pääseda usaldusega ja neid muuta koos olles.. kuid noh.. see ei peaks pidevaks tegevuseks jääma... ja kindlasti mitte selleks, et Sul endal soov juua on või muidu tunned, et imelik olla on kui koos oled (ehk argus, ei julge mitte juua, allud teiste veendisele).. ainult siis kui Kindlalt tead, et see on misjoon Jumala jaoks, sest viin ikka Looja vastane tööriist suures osas tavakasutuses praegu ju.
äärmisel juhul see vist saab olla ka mehe või naise päästmine läbi imtiimsuse ja tunnete jagamise.. kui tead, et see on ainuke asi mis praegu selle inimese mustusest välja tooks.. kuidsee juba väga väga peenikese jääkihiga tiik..26 February 2016 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Lisaks kohvi muidugi palju võimsam narkootiline aine kui mitmed need mis seadusega keelatud on ja otseselt tõestatud, et Jumalasõna nähtavamaks, selgemaks ja sügavamaks teevad,26 February 2016 00:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Muidugi me teame, et Kohvi on Araablaste jook,
araablased tuntuimad orjapidajad, kes kogu planeeti oma orjalaagriks pidanud ammusest ajast juba.. ja eks ka neil huvi seda jooksi promoda..26 February 2016 00:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Inglid saavad olla deemonlike jõudude vangid, kuni inimesed aitavad neil palvetega vabaneda, sest inimese palve peale abijõud saavad kohale sõuda ja jõuda.
Eriti räägib aga asjadest, kuidas ennast erinevatele jõududele avad..26 February 2016 00:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMZ8D6nTKhghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMZ8D6nTKhg
26 February 2016 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on Henry Westons's post.
Group: Multirootorid ja droonid
njeha, u sovies.. won a one battle (well..many actually)... but full battle is on hands of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMZ8D6nTKhg
Srry, suts liika ära trippisin isikliku teemaga :phttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMZ8D6nTKhg
26 February 2016 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on Henry Westons's post.
Group: Multirootorid ja droonid
ainult selliseid valitsusi saab usaldada, kes usaldavad usku, psühedeeliat ja naisi kes kõik loodusttoetavad.
Kes nende asjadega vildakati tegelevad, loodusest kõrvale, siis on tegu väga kahtlaste tegelastega.
Muideks natsid vist esimesed maailmas, kes nii suure loomade ja looduse kaitse kampaania ette võtsid. Inimese kaitse osas oli vaja natuke veel areneda arvatvasti.. kuid eks neid pandi ka uskuma, et tegu ei ole ikka inimestega newnde puhul kes inimeste vastu tegutsevad.. ja siis nad lõikusid ja uurisid ja .. oh seda musta auku millesse neid tõmmati.. Juudid nüüdseks kindel arusaam, on need kelle eest nad võitlema oleks pidanud. Aitama PÄRIS juutidel vabaneda... aga selle asemel tehti nagu robotid osaliselt, nagu viisnurga punased habemeta juudid ette arvutasid..26 February 2016 00:11
Margus Meigo commented on Henry Westons's post.
Group: Multirootorid ja droonid
Muidugi, mõelge nüüd, tallina kogu selle suure ala peale on umbes pool millionit inimest,
Lasnaäe tihedalt koos olevad, korged 10 korruselised majad jne..
Nüüd mis ruutmeetrid seal olid, neis madalates majades, isegi kui üksteise otsa.. mis moodi nagu selline arv mahutada hmm...
ah, mis siin arvutada...
kurb, et aru ei saada, et samad kes neid asju toimetanud on, on endiselt, palju suurtemate plaanidega oma viisnurkadega praegu tegutsemisvalmis.. ja ianuke põhjus miks meil hingata lubati nende tulnukate poolt, on et meie hinge paremini õppida murdma, ja meid endeid uskuma panna, et me pole meie. vaid see mis nad ütlevad et oleme..26 February 2016 00:08
Margus Meigo commented on Henry Westons's post.
Group: Multirootorid ja droonid
Ah või et liberated by a soviets..
Miks nadselliseid lauseid juurde lisavad pannes kõlama nagu neil karvavõrdki head oli plaanis teha ?
Nad selle vabastamise aeg, surnuks vägistasid suurema osa saksa naisi ka, seda võiks ka mainida
ning seda, et eelõige, oli see AMMU enne Punaste plaan, juutidest lahti saada.. ja kes teab mis moodi need asjad läbi selle luhteri usu (kes juudi ja naise vastane) selliselt juhatati, et saksamaa pinnal need asjad sedasi läksid... osati vaadatkse isegi ,et saksamaa päästis juudid, sest se olukord tegi venelastel hiljem võimatuks juute ajaloo raamatust kustutada koos võltsjuutide abiga, kes oma habeme püganud olid ja viisnurgaga hooksaltkoostööd teevad siiani..26 February 2016 00:03
Margus Meigo replied to Madis Masing's comment.
Group: Restart Eesti
järgmine firma mis välismaalastele läheb25 February 2016 23:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Nostalgiline toit
Grupi nimi on kui ma ei eksi.. "Nostalgiline Toit"25 February 2016 22:12
Margus Meigo commented on Clinton Smitt's photo.
Try to eat or make love with it, see how good it is.
After devaluation.
After devaluation.
25 February 2016 20:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Nostalgiline toit
Mis mõttes Karmen?
Mudu jah, rahata elanud küll aastaid kuid see on toit mida söön ka siis sedasi kui millionid taskus on, asi on tervislikus ja naturaalsetes maitsetes, mida saad eraldi tunda25 February 2016 20:02
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Elf's post.
So funny how people fall in to communist "new earth.. old earth go away..." hypnosis .. so the you can cut of Your roots and enslave for ever.. as they can only access Your soul if You let.. they can only take over nature.. if we let... the trick around us is much bigger and we shall love what we got...
if you keep hoping something to pass away.. then this is what you get.. temporally plastic paradise where they use you for gene experiments and when laboratory is not needed they make fake invasion (as unlike earth they have to keep other fake planets alive by they're own resources) and blaming it on "the others"
just in case some of you should manage to stay alive
if you keep hoping something to pass away.. then this is what you get.. temporally plastic paradise where they use you for gene experiments and when laboratory is not needed they make fake invasion (as unlike earth they have to keep other fake planets alive by they're own resources) and blaming it on "the others"
just in case some of you should manage to stay alive
25 February 2016 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on Tõivo Nerep's post.
Group: Aviation Estonia
Nu mis ta ikka nii spämm on..
ega eestis noid asju nii palju ei reklaamita ju25 February 2016 19:40
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Kaljundi's post.
Group: Aviation Estonia
ja pealegi see on Aviationi grupp, mis ma siin ikka torisen : )25 February 2016 19:40
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Kaljundi's post.
Group: Aviation Estonia
Muidugi on positiivne ja lahe tunnetus ka (eriti olukorda arvestades), lihtsalt ise nii noorest peast node asjadega ringi kooberdanud ,et erutus ära kadunud.
Ma ise rohkem nende lennutehnoloogiate fän mida üle 50ne aasta ei ole lubatud avalikuse ette tuua orjarahva kasutusse... et mis hääletult ja vaikselt, sumisedes liiguvad....mmm
Nu google, Amazon ja eesti üks firma vaikselt tööstuse mõttes juba hakkab mingeid kaudseid odavaid versioone nendest juba töötma pakitranspordiks .. sest ega loovust väga kaua ei saa peidus hoida.25 February 2016 19:39
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Kaljundi's post.
Group: Aviation Estonia
tore ikka jah.. mõni maa vist vaatab: "Näe, suur päev, riigi mõlemad helikopterid korraga lennus vist.. "25 February 2016 19:36
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Kaljundi's post.
Group: Aviation Estonia
kunagi olin ka "impressed" sellistest asjadest,
nüüd aga teisepilguläbi vaadates, on lihtsalt mingid rauakolakad mis ilma praktilise kausta kütust raiskavad teiste puuduliku viamuilma ajutiseks ergutamiseks.25 February 2016 19:36
Margus Meigo commented on Tara Bell's photo.
This is how we should be : ))
Good moves girl, know how to keep it, and try to not hold when it threatens to go away..so that comes back to you again and will stay
Good moves girl, know how to keep it, and try to not hold when it threatens to go away..so that comes back to you again and will stay
25 February 2016 18:52
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Natural reaction
25 February 2016 18:50
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
to see anyone having a tie around their neck, and talking about solutions about the poor.. i think first best thing would be to strangle one a bit with that tie... that will help more of the poor then ones talk, with a tie around the neck...
man these people piss me off even if they right things
This is why Hillary makes a best one, as She is only one i can see who wears not of the tie, probably not even in private if you know what i mean
man these people piss me off even if they right things
This is why Hillary makes a best one, as She is only one i can see who wears not of the tie, probably not even in private if you know what i mean
25 February 2016 07:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
as am can not see no balance of explaining why class system is good, why is needed really, (and how can it be better)
why aristocracy rules, or rather.. the proper earth people ..
why is ONLY important what a rich does with ones money instead is one rich or poor (it is like really low level thought just measure by numbers, only retard would do that for long)... also what one does with ones poorness, is also important, even thought that is by far less possible to notice then wealthy or rich doing proper good with ones finance.. and
ah, time to move on
why aristocracy rules, or rather.. the proper earth people ..
why is ONLY important what a rich does with ones money instead is one rich or poor (it is like really low level thought just measure by numbers, only retard would do that for long)... also what one does with ones poorness, is also important, even thought that is by far less possible to notice then wealthy or rich doing proper good with ones finance.. and
ah, time to move on
25 February 2016 07:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
So basically, this article is at so many places, and in whole, reder, commier, marxim then the UCL
25 February 2016 07:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Class conflict, frequently referred to as "class warfare" or "class struggle," is the tension or antagonism which exists in society due to competing socioeconomic interests and desires between people of different classes.
For Marx, the history of class society was a history of class conflict. He pointed to the successful rise of the bourgeoisie, and the necessity of revolutionary violence—a heightened form of class conflict—in securing the bourgeoisie rights that supported the capitalist economy. "
Marx believed that the exploitation and poverty inherent in capitalism were a pre-existing form of class conflict. Marx believed that wage labourers would need to revolt to bring about a more equitable distribution of wealth and political power.
// what a silly one... people need to know first what is life and why they are alive, who is in what power why and ... well, most of all, about women, plants, how to build house .. and provide perhaps tools for that... this what man needs first before starting to fight "the rich"
as this project is anyway made by dark ones to eliminate pure royal ones... so slave race can be new ruling by the few leaders and fast network of middle man and controllers and coordinators of keeping everyone on standard (standard that lacks religious foundation, that it self would be able to keep everyone working much better then any law and regulation... as it is ultimate... teachings for every situation, if to progress on that )
For Marx, the history of class society was a history of class conflict. He pointed to the successful rise of the bourgeoisie, and the necessity of revolutionary violence—a heightened form of class conflict—in securing the bourgeoisie rights that supported the capitalist economy. "
Marx believed that the exploitation and poverty inherent in capitalism were a pre-existing form of class conflict. Marx believed that wage labourers would need to revolt to bring about a more equitable distribution of wealth and political power.
// what a silly one... people need to know first what is life and why they are alive, who is in what power why and ... well, most of all, about women, plants, how to build house .. and provide perhaps tools for that... this what man needs first before starting to fight "the rich"
as this project is anyway made by dark ones to eliminate pure royal ones... so slave race can be new ruling by the few leaders and fast network of middle man and controllers and coordinators of keeping everyone on standard (standard that lacks religious foundation, that it self would be able to keep everyone working much better then any law and regulation... as it is ultimate... teachings for every situation, if to progress on that )
25 February 2016 07:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Something more smarter on 2012, at least as a thought, we can see that is progressed, prepared, more advanced in life:
//In modern social theory sometimes the word underclass is used as equivalent to Marx' lumpenproletariat. In a May 14, 2012 article on Truthdig titled 'Colonized by Corporations', Chris Hedges brought back this concept, writing that
"The danger the corporate state faces does not come from the poor. The poor, those Karl Marx dismissed as the Lumpenproletariat, do not mount revolutions, although they join them and often become cannon fodder. The real danger to the elite comes from déclassé intellectuals, those educated middle-class men and women who are barred by a calcified system from advancement. Artists without studios or theaters, teachers without classrooms, lawyers without clients, doctors without patients and journalists without newspapers descend economically. They become, as they mingle with the underclass, a bridge between the worlds of the elite and the oppressed. And they are the dynamite that triggers revolt."
// True that.. but there is medicine for that as well.. we say.
isit... when comes out ... that many of the city people kids does not even dare to go to woods or .. well. .i still have to see the ones with my own eye who does not know where the milk comes.. these videos might be stages... have to see that with my own eye... perhaps is that the day i cry, and can not react to help, as this would be truly not prepared day.
there was one strange thing happened in England.. with adults... that made me to think for days and confused for long time... i asked from some people out of random .. not serious way, what is some of the most common tree names in England... and i kid you not, one did not know, another one did not know.. and they told me for explanation, one of the smarter one "why would we need to know that... we learn in here how to concur land.. not some tree names. .what use it is to know tree name.. (maple, most common on that part of UK, ... they do look like genetically changed but that's another story ). "
//In modern social theory sometimes the word underclass is used as equivalent to Marx' lumpenproletariat. In a May 14, 2012 article on Truthdig titled 'Colonized by Corporations', Chris Hedges brought back this concept, writing that
"The danger the corporate state faces does not come from the poor. The poor, those Karl Marx dismissed as the Lumpenproletariat, do not mount revolutions, although they join them and often become cannon fodder. The real danger to the elite comes from déclassé intellectuals, those educated middle-class men and women who are barred by a calcified system from advancement. Artists without studios or theaters, teachers without classrooms, lawyers without clients, doctors without patients and journalists without newspapers descend economically. They become, as they mingle with the underclass, a bridge between the worlds of the elite and the oppressed. And they are the dynamite that triggers revolt."
// True that.. but there is medicine for that as well.. we say.
isit... when comes out ... that many of the city people kids does not even dare to go to woods or .. well. .i still have to see the ones with my own eye who does not know where the milk comes.. these videos might be stages... have to see that with my own eye... perhaps is that the day i cry, and can not react to help, as this would be truly not prepared day.
there was one strange thing happened in England.. with adults... that made me to think for days and confused for long time... i asked from some people out of random .. not serious way, what is some of the most common tree names in England... and i kid you not, one did not know, another one did not know.. and they told me for explanation, one of the smarter one "why would we need to know that... we learn in here how to concur land.. not some tree names. .what use it is to know tree name.. (maple, most common on that part of UK, ... they do look like genetically changed but that's another story ). "
25 February 2016 07:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Leon Trotsky elaborated this view, perceiving the lumpenproletariat as especially vulnerable to reactionary thought. In his collection of essays Fascism: What it is and how to fight it, he describes Benito Mussolini's capture of power: "Through the fascist agency, capitalism sets in motion the masses of the crazed petty bourgeoisie and the bands of declassed and demoralized lumpenproletariat – all the countless human beings whom finance capital itself has brought to desperation and frenzy"
// okey , in a way we should start to see... if these with a tie. really do desire to be in touch with a land eventually or not..
// okey , in a way we should start to see... if these with a tie. really do desire to be in touch with a land eventually or not..
25 February 2016 07:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
However, in some societies, individual members of this class of people without formal employment have, on occasion, taken the lead in issuing a progressive challenge to society. One example is Abahlali baseMjondolo in the KwaZulu region of contemporary South Africa.
The Young Lords, once a Latino street gang, believed that revolutionary change would become a reality only via a coalition between workers and the lumpenproletariat.
In the late 1960s, Huey P. Newton and the Black Panther Party came to believe that the lumpenproletariat could have a progressive role. Newton argued that the economic and social system of his time was fundamentally different from that which Marx based his analysis on, saying, "As the ruling circle continue to build their technocracy, more and more of the proletariat will become unemployable, become lumpen, until they have become the popular class, the revolutionary class". This is the class the Black Panther Party sought to organize, he said. Some disregard Newton's interpretation, saying he applied the term to, and sought to organize, the temporarily unemployed, rather than the true lumpen. However, a careful reading of his writings reveals repeated references to the "unemployed" and "unemployable" as those with revolutionary potential.
// i think i lived with one of the black panther leaders of UK for some time... well in a way they was still as a small kids who have not been grown up.. but at least seriously wanting something be better.. just not sure how and what all the time..
The Young Lords, once a Latino street gang, believed that revolutionary change would become a reality only via a coalition between workers and the lumpenproletariat.
In the late 1960s, Huey P. Newton and the Black Panther Party came to believe that the lumpenproletariat could have a progressive role. Newton argued that the economic and social system of his time was fundamentally different from that which Marx based his analysis on, saying, "As the ruling circle continue to build their technocracy, more and more of the proletariat will become unemployable, become lumpen, until they have become the popular class, the revolutionary class". This is the class the Black Panther Party sought to organize, he said. Some disregard Newton's interpretation, saying he applied the term to, and sought to organize, the temporarily unemployed, rather than the true lumpen. However, a careful reading of his writings reveals repeated references to the "unemployed" and "unemployable" as those with revolutionary potential.
// i think i lived with one of the black panther leaders of UK for some time... well in a way they was still as a small kids who have not been grown up.. but at least seriously wanting something be better.. just not sure how and what all the time..
25 February 2016 07:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The influential 19th-century anarchist activist and theorist Mikhail Bakunin had a view almost opposite of Marx's on the revolutionary potential of the lumpenproletariat vs. the proletariat. Bakunin, according to Nicholas Thoburn, "considers workers' integration in capital as destructive of more primary revolutionary forces. For Bakunin, the revolutionary archetype is found in a peasant milieu (which is presented as having longstanding insurrectionary traditions, as well as a communist archetype in its current social form – the peasant commune) and amongst educated unemployed youth, assorted marginals from all classes, brigands, robbers, the impoverished masses, and those on the margins of society who have escaped, been excluded from, or not yet subsumed in the discipline of emerging industrial work ... in short, all those whom Marx sought to include in the category of the lumpenproletariat".
25 February 2016 07:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Marx argued that Bonaparte was able to place himself above the two main classes, the proletariat and bourgeoisie, by resorting to the "lumpenproletariat" as an apparently independent base of power, while in fact advancing the material interests of the "finance aristocracy".
For rhetorical purposes, Marx identifies Louis Napoleon himself as being like a member of the lumpenproletariat insofar as, being a member of the finance aristocracy, he has no direct interest in productive enterprises. This is a rhetorical flourish, however, which equates the lumpenproletariat, the rentier class, and the apex of class society as equivalent members of the class of those with no role in useful production.
// so we can start to see the irony and humor and all that.. what started to move and catch the eyes of a joiners
For rhetorical purposes, Marx identifies Louis Napoleon himself as being like a member of the lumpenproletariat insofar as, being a member of the finance aristocracy, he has no direct interest in productive enterprises. This is a rhetorical flourish, however, which equates the lumpenproletariat, the rentier class, and the apex of class society as equivalent members of the class of those with no role in useful production.
// so we can start to see the irony and humor and all that.. what started to move and catch the eyes of a joiners
25 February 2016 07:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
In The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Napoleon (1852), Marx gives this description of the lumpenproletariat:
Alongside decayed roués with dubious means of subsistence and of dubious origin, alongside ruined and adventurous offshoots of the bourgeoisie, were vagabonds, discharged soldiers, discharged jailbirds, escaped galley slaves, swindlers, mountebanks, lazzaroni, pickpockets, tricksters, gamblers, maquereaux [pimps], brothel keepers, porters, literati, organ grinders, ragpickers, knife grinders, tinkers, beggars — in short, the whole indefinite, disintegrated mass, thrown hither and thither, which the French call la bohème
Alongside decayed roués with dubious means of subsistence and of dubious origin, alongside ruined and adventurous offshoots of the bourgeoisie, were vagabonds, discharged soldiers, discharged jailbirds, escaped galley slaves, swindlers, mountebanks, lazzaroni, pickpockets, tricksters, gamblers, maquereaux [pimps], brothel keepers, porters, literati, organ grinders, ragpickers, knife grinders, tinkers, beggars — in short, the whole indefinite, disintegrated mass, thrown hither and thither, which the French call la bohème
25 February 2016 07:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Something for street marxists:
Lumpenproletariat is a term that was originally coined by Karl Marx to describe the layer of the working class that is unlikely ever to achieve class consciousness and is therefore lost to socially useful production, of no use to the revolutionary struggle, and perhaps even an impediment to the realization of a classless society. The word is derived from the German word Lumpenproletarier, a word literally meaning "miscreant" as well as "rag". The Marxist Internet Archive writes that "[lumpenproletariat] identifies the class of outcast, degenerated and submerged elements that make up a section of the population of industrial centers" which include "beggars, prostitutes, gangsters, racketeers, swindlers, petty criminals, tramps, chronic unemployed or unemployables, persons who have been cast out by industry, and all sorts of declassed, degraded or degenerated elements."
// and do we know what was plan for these kinds, after they was no use to weakening the other side, or t use for infiltration confusion.. what was use for these beings and humans after this ? What was the plan, you know ? There is much more higher level of this thought in production in worlds of fivestar pentagram, but much more wider and higher.. also luckily including" these kinds" as material to be used and not all eliminated, instead in purpose keeping portion like that, for various plans and to scare middle slave class to go to work
Lumpenproletariat is a term that was originally coined by Karl Marx to describe the layer of the working class that is unlikely ever to achieve class consciousness and is therefore lost to socially useful production, of no use to the revolutionary struggle, and perhaps even an impediment to the realization of a classless society. The word is derived from the German word Lumpenproletarier, a word literally meaning "miscreant" as well as "rag". The Marxist Internet Archive writes that "[lumpenproletariat] identifies the class of outcast, degenerated and submerged elements that make up a section of the population of industrial centers" which include "beggars, prostitutes, gangsters, racketeers, swindlers, petty criminals, tramps, chronic unemployed or unemployables, persons who have been cast out by industry, and all sorts of declassed, degraded or degenerated elements."
// and do we know what was plan for these kinds, after they was no use to weakening the other side, or t use for infiltration confusion.. what was use for these beings and humans after this ? What was the plan, you know ? There is much more higher level of this thought in production in worlds of fivestar pentagram, but much more wider and higher.. also luckily including" these kinds" as material to be used and not all eliminated, instead in purpose keeping portion like that, for various plans and to scare middle slave class to go to work
25 February 2016 07:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Marx himself argued that it was the goal of the proletariat itself to displace the capitalist system with socialism, changing the social relationships underpinning the class system and then developing into a future communist society in which: "..the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all." (Communist Manifesto) This would mark the beginning of a classless society in which human needs rather than profit would be motive for production. In a society with democratic control and production for use, there would be no class, no state and no need for money
// lol, money is not "needed" anyway and what main key points of bad of money? (like training mind to think, that you can give something of no REAL value and mast get something of an real value in return..)
But what is more worst then a money is or not... or perhaps as bad, is the idea of working on going to someone else in a way that You would not "for free", out of good will or pleasure, and working to unknown stranger often, instead of Your friends, family and your self.
Worst jet, is to work on a job of where you have not a real complete idea, for what it is good from start to end, and is it really good or can that job be not so good...
And worst jet is to be forced to work on it as the "law" is , in to what you tie yourself, that If You do not do, whatever you are told to, and when is told (usually near every day from morning to night, so barely you can take care of the kids and bath, maybe even make proper hour long sex .. but hey.. no sleepy sleepy in a morning, because OTHER people need you to run.. nearly all the time, most of the time a year)
Same thing with a common forced field ... and all that.. where you have to be part and if you do not want to be, then the teachings and support of how to be independent, is not encouraged.. ... yes we know, it is only for a strong one to run a house, and sometimes, run a house in a way that nearly everything that is needed is done for you, from a book keeping to a washing, and hired best advanced strategies - mastermind ruler, mh? Can You grow and pick up Your own potato... i mean ,would You feel pleasure of it? If no.. then there is something wrong with you seriously, if you like top of that eat potato...
we understand, if we got no time.. but if You would have.. would You like to have this kind of time ?
// lol, money is not "needed" anyway and what main key points of bad of money? (like training mind to think, that you can give something of no REAL value and mast get something of an real value in return..)
But what is more worst then a money is or not... or perhaps as bad, is the idea of working on going to someone else in a way that You would not "for free", out of good will or pleasure, and working to unknown stranger often, instead of Your friends, family and your self.
Worst jet, is to work on a job of where you have not a real complete idea, for what it is good from start to end, and is it really good or can that job be not so good...
And worst jet is to be forced to work on it as the "law" is , in to what you tie yourself, that If You do not do, whatever you are told to, and when is told (usually near every day from morning to night, so barely you can take care of the kids and bath, maybe even make proper hour long sex .. but hey.. no sleepy sleepy in a morning, because OTHER people need you to run.. nearly all the time, most of the time a year)
Same thing with a common forced field ... and all that.. where you have to be part and if you do not want to be, then the teachings and support of how to be independent, is not encouraged.. ... yes we know, it is only for a strong one to run a house, and sometimes, run a house in a way that nearly everything that is needed is done for you, from a book keeping to a washing, and hired best advanced strategies - mastermind ruler, mh? Can You grow and pick up Your own potato... i mean ,would You feel pleasure of it? If no.. then there is something wrong with you seriously, if you like top of that eat potato...
we understand, if we got no time.. but if You would have.. would You like to have this kind of time ?
25 February 2016 06:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Max Weber formulated a three-component theory of stratification, that saw political power as an interplay between "class", "status" and "group power". Weber believed that class position was determined by a person's skills and education, rather than by their relationship to the means of production. Both Marx and Weber agreed that social stratification was undesirable. However, where Marx believed that stratification would only disappear along with capitalism and private property, Weber believed that the solution lay in providing "equal opportunity" within a competitive, capitalist system."
25 February 2016 06:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
According to philosopher Karl Marx, "class" is determined entirely by one's relationship to the means of production, the classes in modern capitalist society being the "proletarians": those who work but do not own the means of production, the "bourgeoisie": those who invest and live off of the surplus generated by the former, and the aristocracy that has land as a means of production.
25 February 2016 06:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Today, concepts of social class often assume three general categories: a very wealthy and powerful upper class that owns and controls the means of production; a middle class of professional workers, small business owners, and low-level managers; and a lower class, who rely on low-paying wage jobs for their livelihood and often experience poverty."
25 February 2016 06:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Candidates in the 2016 Presidential election have avoided using the term "middle class" because it evokes feelings of anxiety and instability within the largest political faction
Reports show that when politicians cite the middle class, their rhetoric connotes fears of falling behind; Hillary Clinton now uses terms like "everyday Americans" to evoke the average American worker. "
Reports show that when politicians cite the middle class, their rhetoric connotes fears of falling behind; Hillary Clinton now uses terms like "everyday Americans" to evoke the average American worker. "
25 February 2016 06:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"America, however, where there is no aristocracy or royalty, the upper class status belongs to the extremely wealthy, the so-called 'super-rich', though there is some tendency even in America for those with old family wealth to look down on those who have earned their money in business, the struggle between New Money and Old Money."
25 February 2016 06:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Well article is not all bad, just the images are... that direct common mind to....
but text can be looked as good, like:
"The upper class is the social class composed of those who are rich, well-born, powerful, or a combination of those. They usually wield the greatest political power. In some countries, wealth alone is sufficient to allow entry into the upper class. In others, only people who are born or marry into certain aristocratic bloodlines are considered members of the upper class, and those who gain great wealth through commercial activity are looked down upon by the "old rich" as nouveau riche."
Only thing what is missing, is opinion, how and what is better. ...that comes soon...
but text can be looked as good, like:
"The upper class is the social class composed of those who are rich, well-born, powerful, or a combination of those. They usually wield the greatest political power. In some countries, wealth alone is sufficient to allow entry into the upper class. In others, only people who are born or marry into certain aristocratic bloodlines are considered members of the upper class, and those who gain great wealth through commercial activity are looked down upon by the "old rich" as nouveau riche."
Only thing what is missing, is opinion, how and what is better. ...that comes soon...
25 February 2016 06:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
And beginning it was:
"[Classes are] large groups of people differing from each other by the place they occupy in a historically determined system of social production, by their relation (in most cases fixed and formulated in law) to the means of production, by their role in the social organization of labor, and, consequently, by the dimensions of the share of social wealth of which they dispose and the mode of acquiring it."
Vladimir Lenin, A Great Beginning - June, 1919
"[Classes are] large groups of people differing from each other by the place they occupy in a historically determined system of social production, by their relation (in most cases fixed and formulated in law) to the means of production, by their role in the social organization of labor, and, consequently, by the dimensions of the share of social wealth of which they dispose and the mode of acquiring it."
Vladimir Lenin, A Great Beginning - June, 1919
25 February 2016 06:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
What kind of sicks sentence it is on under picture, why it needs to be like that in there, for what purpose ?
25 February 2016 06:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
25 February 2016 06:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Now the Druids are Reformed, who kknows.. bu in the world of real worlds:
"The Druids and Animists are alone among the Avalon professions in that they shun violence utterly. They embrace the pacifist, altruistic teachings of the god of life. The Druid profession attracts those who do not wish to be embroiled in the hurly burly of combat or competitive conflict. Within the forest the Animist is virtually inviolate, often both protected and aloof."
http://www.avalon-rpg.com/world#guilds
"The Druids and Animists are alone among the Avalon professions in that they shun violence utterly. They embrace the pacifist, altruistic teachings of the god of life. The Druid profession attracts those who do not wish to be embroiled in the hurly burly of combat or competitive conflict. Within the forest the Animist is virtually inviolate, often both protected and aloof."
http://www.avalon-rpg.com/world#guilds
http://www.avalon-rpg.com/world#guilds
25 February 2016 06:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Täiskasvanute Tutvus
"Ootan endiselt tutvusi Naiselt, või Tüdrukult, kes suudaks ennast väljendada peale algkoolis käimist vähemlat kahe A4 lehe "pikkuses" oma viimase 15 aasta osas, et siis saaksime edasi koos minna ja jõukamalt elada kui rikaimad.
Lisaks meil üks huvitav haridusministeeriumi mäng käsil, mis seob õpilased eri koolidega ja telekate külge kleepunud vanemad professorite ning lastega.
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Kui hea programeerimiste või tehniliste oskuste fantaseerimisega Oled, või muidu Geenius mõne sõbra arvates, siis võid ka ühendust võtta töö osas soost ja kirjaoskuses olenematta.
PS: Võluritesse peaksid ka soovima uskuda, muidu võib kiiresti rutiinseks minna"25 February 2016 04:40
Margus Meigo commented on Rain Haugas's post.
This is not as far off as we might assume
25 February 2016 04:17
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
spot on nigga (Y)
25 February 2016 03:37
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's video.
Finally Mark, Finally.. : )
Where is total count of Love and Likes and... to see what is more
Where is total count of Love and Likes and... to see what is more
25 February 2016 03:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://vp1992-2001.president.ee/pildid/A2001K5/pilt3337.jpg
https://vp1992-2001.president.ee/pildid/A2001K5/pilt3337.jpg
25 February 2016 00:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Walter Zapp said in his long speech of thanks, given in faultless Estonian, that Estonia is his homeland. He thanked his former colleagues Richard Jürgens, Nikolai Nyländer, Karl Indus and Hans Eppner for assistance and support in the development of Minox. Walter Zapp stressed that he had been forced to escape, as after the occupation of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania he had received a message about his transfer to Moscow to develop Soviet military optics there. According to Walter Zapp, the time he had spent in Tallinn had been a happy time for Estonia, and he gave special acknowledgement to the inventor Karl Pappello, ''the greatest Estonian Thomas A. Edisson of all times'', who has, however, not been included in any Estonian reference books. Up to now, Walter Zapp has proudly followed the domestic and international achievements of Estonia. ''For the first time I wept with joy at my radio in August 1991'', reminisced the inventor of Minox, Chevalier of the Cross of Terra Mariana Walter Zapp.
Press Service of the Office of the President
Kadriorg, May 20, 2001
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See üks väga oluline samm oli mis sai tehtud, ei tea kas ta ise selle peale tuli, kuid tema see oli sellel momendil kes Zappiga kokku sai viimasel hetkel. Õnneks veel
NIng olulised sõnad ütles ka leiutiste kohta... ja ega aeg muutunud pole.. siiani, on projekti normidega kõik nii robotlikuks aetud, et isegi, mõtled, et vist on ainuke võimalus suurtemate meeltega teisemaalastega asju ajada, sest endamaa veel suuremeelsemad, on ammu käega loonud, lootuse suhtes, et me veel praegusel ajal kommunismist vabaneksime, sest nii suur osa jäi uskuma, et nagu kommunism saigi läbi...
Oeh.. ei mõistetud, et uued tehnoloogiad tehti... mille olemasolul polnud SELLIST korda enam vaja siin... vaid vaja oli meid vabatahtlikult orjama panna, ja iseseisvusest loovutama panna aejaga.. sest aega on.. impeerium mitutuhat aastat siin voolanud... ja vaat kui suure edu viimase 20 aasta "vaba" ajaga saavutanud on...
muidugi, kui aus olla, siis muidugi tuleb meil see meel säilitada, et oleme Vabad, sest seee usk ainuke mis edasi viib... liiga suured need jõud, et reaalselt neid realiseerida
Press Service of the Office of the President
Kadriorg, May 20, 2001
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See üks väga oluline samm oli mis sai tehtud, ei tea kas ta ise selle peale tuli, kuid tema see oli sellel momendil kes Zappiga kokku sai viimasel hetkel. Õnneks veel
NIng olulised sõnad ütles ka leiutiste kohta... ja ega aeg muutunud pole.. siiani, on projekti normidega kõik nii robotlikuks aetud, et isegi, mõtled, et vist on ainuke võimalus suurtemate meeltega teisemaalastega asju ajada, sest endamaa veel suuremeelsemad, on ammu käega loonud, lootuse suhtes, et me veel praegusel ajal kommunismist vabaneksime, sest nii suur osa jäi uskuma, et nagu kommunism saigi läbi...
Oeh.. ei mõistetud, et uued tehnoloogiad tehti... mille olemasolul polnud SELLIST korda enam vaja siin... vaid vaja oli meid vabatahtlikult orjama panna, ja iseseisvusest loovutama panna aejaga.. sest aega on.. impeerium mitutuhat aastat siin voolanud... ja vaat kui suure edu viimase 20 aasta "vaba" ajaga saavutanud on...
muidugi, kui aus olla, siis muidugi tuleb meil see meel säilitada, et oleme Vabad, sest seee usk ainuke mis edasi viib... liiga suured need jõud, et reaalselt neid realiseerida
25 February 2016 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Today in Zurich the President of the Republic awarded the 4th Class Order of the Cross of Terra Mariana to Walter Zapp, the inventor of the Minox camera, as a token of gratitude for placing Estonia on the world map with his invention.
The President of the Republic said in his speech that Estonia is proud of Walter Zapp and regrets that the pro-provincial Estonian authorities did not have enough sense to support creativity and that Walter Zapp had to go to Riga for the production of Minox.
The President expressed his hope that Estonia will not repeat today the mistake of the provincial periphery. The President referred to his question ''What is the Estonian Nokia?'' and emphasised that creativity has to be supported and protected as a little child.
https://vp1992-2001.president.ee/eng/ateated/AmetlikTeade.asp?ID=3345
The President of the Republic said in his speech that Estonia is proud of Walter Zapp and regrets that the pro-provincial Estonian authorities did not have enough sense to support creativity and that Walter Zapp had to go to Riga for the production of Minox.
The President expressed his hope that Estonia will not repeat today the mistake of the provincial periphery. The President referred to his question ''What is the Estonian Nokia?'' and emphasised that creativity has to be supported and protected as a little child.
https://vp1992-2001.president.ee/eng/ateated/AmetlikTeade.asp?ID=3345
https://vp1992-2001.president.ee/eng/ateated/AmetlikTeade.asp?ID=3345
25 February 2016 00:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Including the: "The first product to carry the Minox name was a subminiature camera, conceived in 1922, and finally invented and produced in 1936, by Baltic German Walter Zapp. The Latvian factory VEF manufactured the camera from 1937 to 1943 "
Zapp, a Baltic German, was born in 1905 in Riga,. The family moved to Reval (now called Tallinn, Estonia) where he first took a job as an engraver before finding a position with a photographer.
He became friends with Nikolai 'Nixi' Nylander and Richard Jürgens, and it was through discussions with these friends that the idea of a camera that could always be carried came to him. Nixi Nylander also coined the name "Minox" and drew up the Minox mouse logo. Jürgens funded the original project but was not able to get support in Estonia for production.
Walter Zapp originally envisioned the Minox to be a camera for everyone requiring only little photographic knowledge. Yet in part due to its high manufacturing costs the Minox became more well known as a must-have luxury item. From the start the Minox also gained wide notoriety as a spy camera.
http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/product/minox-iiis
Zapp, a Baltic German, was born in 1905 in Riga,. The family moved to Reval (now called Tallinn, Estonia) where he first took a job as an engraver before finding a position with a photographer.
He became friends with Nikolai 'Nixi' Nylander and Richard Jürgens, and it was through discussions with these friends that the idea of a camera that could always be carried came to him. Nixi Nylander also coined the name "Minox" and drew up the Minox mouse logo. Jürgens funded the original project but was not able to get support in Estonia for production.
Walter Zapp originally envisioned the Minox to be a camera for everyone requiring only little photographic knowledge. Yet in part due to its high manufacturing costs the Minox became more well known as a must-have luxury item. From the start the Minox also gained wide notoriety as a spy camera.
http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/product/minox-iiis
http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/product/minox-iiis
25 February 2016 00:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
now the digital ones, are proper nice still, well, for looks at least http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/product/minox-digital-spy-camera
http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/product/minox-digital-spy-camera
24 February 2016 23:27
Margus Meigo commented on Miriam Tomponzi's photo.
Fun Fact, 007 used in Baltic States made camera, upside down :p
http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/product/minox-iiis
Not sure why but that always reminds me when am see 007
http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/product/minox-iiis
Not sure why but that always reminds me when am see 007
http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/product/minox-iiis
24 February 2016 23:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUezhpuEoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUezhpuEoE
24 February 2016 20:53
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
who would name it like that...
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10207664305422410
https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10207664305422410
24 February 2016 20:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
24 February 2016 20:35
Margus Meigo commented on Alain Chevalier's post.
He might be a king, but here is still a women and a God to obey to
24 February 2016 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Meil muidugi hea siin uinutada ennast 1918 hällilauluga, et ise tegime kõik ja näe võeti ja saime tagasi ja sedasi solgutamisega.. et ise tegime endale süsteemi kus on vasak ja parem pool, et kus kohe oleks sisse ehitatud vastased keda pead elus hoidma, et kunagi rahu ei saaks olla seni kuni parem pool valitseb veel üheski riigis..... et jah.. vaat kus võitlesime SELLE nimel.. jah ?
Ei ei võidelnud me esiisad deeemon Kraatia nimel...
Ei ei võidelnud me esiisad deeemon Kraatia nimel...
24 February 2016 20:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Gloria a Dios Decreto bajo mi autoridad y Mando viendo la necesidad de cambio y Fracaso de los políticos en el manejo Gubarnamental en el Mundo donde se necesita una nueva forma de gobernanza tanto en lo político Económico Social valores a educación viendo un mundo que cada día se pierde más en gente Corrupta latrocinios e interés personales y no en el interés de las personas donde se perdió el Rumbo y no hay vuelta atrás sólo reconstruir todo y pidiendo ayuda divina a que me ayude a mi y a todos los seres humanos hacer un gobierno de naciones en busca de un camino de luz y no oscuridad declaro y fundo Nation New World Government (NNWG). Instituciones unidas a la nación 1 Worldwide Human Rights Commission 2 International Academic of Humanities 3 International Holy College Bishop and Archbishops (. IHCBA ). 4 World Association Humanitarian of Doctors (WAHOD). 5 CAEMC. 6 KigdomGermanic Empire 7 Empires Kindongs United Diplomatic 8 International Académic of Sciences (IAOS). 9 Empire Court Noble 10 Nation Goverment New Román Empire 11 Sacro Empires Kindomgs United 12 New Román Empire Fourth Rome Christian 13 Kindongs United Confederation (KUC). 14 Kindomg Sovereign Nation Israel 12 Tribes Israel 15 Sacro Nation Frankish Merovingios Bourbons 16 Jeebandeep NH 17 Manab Sewa Charitable Society And others soon Emperor President General Prof Doctor Javier Otto Jorge Gold Ferrari MBA PhD D.Sc Javier I"
24 February 2016 20:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Logo on iseenesest tuttav, eksju
"Gloria a Dios Hoy 24 Febrero bajo mi mandó y derecho creo la Soberana orden Imperial de Rus Emperador Tzar Javier I para premiar a personas apoyan al imperio al Emperador y por servicios Profesionales Humanitarios Militares Religiosos y servicio a la sociedad Donde su Gran Maestre comandante General será SCMRI Emperador Tzar Maximus Pontifixes Comandante General Doctor Javier Otto Jorge Gold Ferrari PhD D.Sc ad perpetuo Ad infinitud Heriditario válido desde la firma Regístrese y cúmplase en los libros del imperio Dinastía y Gobierno Javier I"
"Gloria a Dios Hoy 24 Febrero bajo mi mandó y derecho creo la Soberana orden Imperial de Rus Emperador Tzar Javier I para premiar a personas apoyan al imperio al Emperador y por servicios Profesionales Humanitarios Militares Religiosos y servicio a la sociedad Donde su Gran Maestre comandante General será SCMRI Emperador Tzar Maximus Pontifixes Comandante General Doctor Javier Otto Jorge Gold Ferrari PhD D.Sc ad perpetuo Ad infinitud Heriditario válido desde la firma Regístrese y cúmplase en los libros del imperio Dinastía y Gobierno Javier I"
24 February 2016 20:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
24 February 2016 20:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Bitcoin P2P Cryptocurrency
Research made by e-Governance Academy for building Estonian official statement of cryptocurrency. Research is published in Estonian.
http://www.ega.ee/publication/cryptocurrency-opportunities-and-risks/
Research made by e-Governance Academy for building Estonian official statement of cryptocurrency. Research is published in Estonian.
http://www.ega.ee/publication/cryptocurrency-opportunities-and-risks/
24 February 2016 19:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Really old news but now new again? "
state portal activated the service My Documents and its notifications for all the people who forward their official e-mails.
That way the state and local government authorities are able to communicate information and documents to people.
This means that, if a person receives a document in the eesti.ee environment, he or she is notified with an e-mail or a text message.
The notification sent to the eesti.ee e-mail address or mobile phone does not signify electronic delivery.
The document is deemed to have been delivered only when the person enters the web environment referred to in the e-mail and opens or forwards it there."
https://www.eesti.ee/eng/topics/citizen/riigiportaali_abi/eesti_ee_teavitusteenuse_kasutustingimused
https://www.eesti.ee/eng/
state portal activated the service My Documents and its notifications for all the people who forward their official e-mails.
That way the state and local government authorities are able to communicate information and documents to people.
This means that, if a person receives a document in the eesti.ee environment, he or she is notified with an e-mail or a text message.
The notification sent to the eesti.ee e-mail address or mobile phone does not signify electronic delivery.
The document is deemed to have been delivered only when the person enters the web environment referred to in the e-mail and opens or forwards it there."
https://www.eesti.ee/eng/topics/citizen/riigiportaali_abi/eesti_ee_teavitusteenuse_kasutustingimused
https://www.eesti.ee/eng/
24 February 2016 19:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Estonia may not show up on Americans’ radar too often. It is a tiny country in northeastern Europe, just next to Finland. It has the territory of the Netherlands, but 13 times less people—its 1.3 million inhabitants is comparable to Hawaii’s population. As a friend from India recently quipped, “What is there to govern?”
What makes this tiny country interesting in terms of governance is not just that the people can elect their parliament online or get tax overpayments back within two days of filing their returns. It is also that this level of service for citizens is not the result of the government building a few websites. Instead, Estonians started by redesigning their entire information infrastructure from the ground up with openness, privacy, security, and ‘future-proofing’ in mind."
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/01/lessons-from-the-worlds-most-tech-savvy-government/283341/
What makes this tiny country interesting in terms of governance is not just that the people can elect their parliament online or get tax overpayments back within two days of filing their returns. It is also that this level of service for citizens is not the result of the government building a few websites. Instead, Estonians started by redesigning their entire information infrastructure from the ground up with openness, privacy, security, and ‘future-proofing’ in mind."
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/01/lessons-from-the-worlds-most-tech-savvy-government/283341/
24 February 2016 19:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Seiklejate Vennaskonna vabatahtlikud
Mulle keegi vist helistas hommikul, kuid mu uue OP systeemi tõttu selline raske ülesanne nagu näha, kes helistas, ei ole praegu võimalik telefonil peale kellaaja muutust. Võimas, see tehnoloogia..24 February 2016 17:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Good remark Angelica Ravenna
24 February 2016 15:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Seiklejate Vennaskonna vabatahtlikud
5229041 mu telefon
kontor on laki 34 kuhu ka tulla saad ja saame rääkida24 February 2016 01:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://cyber.ee/en/e-government/
#Estonia Cybernetica has earned a reputation as a dependable provider of innovative e-Government solutions, often outclassing recognized international players in ...
Cybernetica's Unified eXchange Platform (UXP) technology brings the world’s best e-Governance solution to your country, organization or enterprise.
https://cyber.ee/en/e-government/uxp/
i-Voting
i-Voting is used as an additional voting method to better support the generality of elections. Voter can vote when and where it is most suitable – practically from anywhere in the world. First e-Voting in World.
X-Road
The X-Road project was launched by the Estonian government in the 1990's to create a secure and standardized environment for interconnection or enabling data exchange between a multitude of different information systems. Over 2000 services
Over 900 connected organizations, public registers and databases
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Okey, 90s we had x-tee and on on 2000s we had near full e-Gov... and after Obama visit, he confirmed symbolically, that this what we have been doing ,they will start up also, but for respect under their own programs.
///okey, something like that
#Estonia Cybernetica has earned a reputation as a dependable provider of innovative e-Government solutions, often outclassing recognized international players in ...
Cybernetica's Unified eXchange Platform (UXP) technology brings the world’s best e-Governance solution to your country, organization or enterprise.
https://cyber.ee/en/e-government/uxp/
i-Voting
i-Voting is used as an additional voting method to better support the generality of elections. Voter can vote when and where it is most suitable – practically from anywhere in the world. First e-Voting in World.
X-Road
The X-Road project was launched by the Estonian government in the 1990's to create a secure and standardized environment for interconnection or enabling data exchange between a multitude of different information systems. Over 2000 services
Over 900 connected organizations, public registers and databases
----
Okey, 90s we had x-tee and on on 2000s we had near full e-Gov... and after Obama visit, he confirmed symbolically, that this what we have been doing ,they will start up also, but for respect under their own programs.
///okey, something like that
https://cyber.ee/en/e-government/
24 February 2016 00:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Palling: Estonia can offer the world e-solutions and e-government
23.11.2015 / Press releases, European Union Affairs Committee
http://www.riigikogu.ee/en/press-releases/european-union-affairs-committee-en/palling-estonia-can-offer-the-world-e-solutions-and-e-government/
23.11.2015 / Press releases, European Union Affairs Committee
http://www.riigikogu.ee/en/press-releases/european-union-affairs-committee-en/palling-estonia-can-offer-the-world-e-solutions-and-e-government/
http://www.riigikogu.ee/en/press-releases/european-union-affairs-committee-en/palling-estonia-can-offer-the-world-e-solutions-and-e-government/
24 February 2016 00:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ukraine, Estonia Ministry of Foreign Affairs
http://vm.ee/en/newsletter/estonias-e-state-academy-help-develop-e-governance-ukraine
Estonia's e-State Academy to help develop e-governance in Ukraine
November 17
Estonia's e-State Academy along with cooperation partners is to start helping the Ukrainian government set up an e-government and develop the country's first e-services in November.
According to a cooperation agreement between the e-State Academy and the Swedish International Development Cooperation Agency (SIDA) the two institutions will support the activities of the Ukrainian government for introducing e-governance, spokespeople for the e-State Academy said.
The e-State Academy is to carry out its planned activities in the next seven months in cooperation with Estonian, Swedish and Moldovan experts. The project is finance by SIDA and the Estonian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The total cost of the contract is about half million euros.
BNS
http://vm.ee/en/newsletter/estonias-e-state-academy-help-develop-e-governance-ukraine
Estonia's e-State Academy to help develop e-governance in Ukraine
November 17
Estonia's e-State Academy along with cooperation partners is to start helping the Ukrainian government set up an e-government and develop the country's first e-services in November.
According to a cooperation agreement between the e-State Academy and the Swedish International Development Cooperation Agency (SIDA) the two institutions will support the activities of the Ukrainian government for introducing e-governance, spokespeople for the e-State Academy said.
The e-State Academy is to carry out its planned activities in the next seven months in cooperation with Estonian, Swedish and Moldovan experts. The project is finance by SIDA and the Estonian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The total cost of the contract is about half million euros.
BNS
http://vm.ee/en/newsletter/estonias-e-state-academy-help-develop-e-governance-ukraine
24 February 2016 00:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Estonia may be a world leader, but it is hardly alone in its moves to public e-services. Last year, Estonia joined with the United Kingdom, South Korea, Israel, and New Zealand to establish an initiative called D5. At the first annual D5 Summit in London last December, the five countries drafted a charter pledging to work together and share ideas to develop and integrate electronic public services.
Separately, Finland is marching to Estonia's drum and is now building an electronic identification system and a national data exchange layer for electronic services based on Estonia's X-road concepts.
However, notes Sullivan, although the D5 calls itself "a group of the world's most digitally advanced governments," its membership roster is conspicuously missing Singapore, India, Australia, other European countries, Canada, and the U.S. "Wider membership could facilitate greater exchange of experience and cooperation as well as development and implementation of international standards," she says.
D5 emerges from the wreckage left by the U.K.'s failed rollout of a national identity card system several years ago. The huge, and hugely expensive, card project, along with a proposed National Identity Register, were scrapped in 2010 in the face of strong opposition from the public and from some quarters in government over concerns about an erosion of civil liberties and privacy. Estonia was made a charter member of the D5 by other members looking for guidance on these kinds of efforts, according to citizen activist Tuisik. "We get about 400 official visits each year that concentrate on digital matters," he says.
http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2015/6/187320-estonia/fulltext
A big challenge in developing governmental e-services is keeping them decentralized for security, while preserving cross-application compatibility.
In a recent blog, Sullivan called D5 an important development because it is an international acknowledgment of the importance of e-government. "[It] formally acknowledges the need for international collaboration to ... develop common standards and procedures," she says.
Separately, Finland is marching to Estonia's drum and is now building an electronic identification system and a national data exchange layer for electronic services based on Estonia's X-road concepts.
However, notes Sullivan, although the D5 calls itself "a group of the world's most digitally advanced governments," its membership roster is conspicuously missing Singapore, India, Australia, other European countries, Canada, and the U.S. "Wider membership could facilitate greater exchange of experience and cooperation as well as development and implementation of international standards," she says.
D5 emerges from the wreckage left by the U.K.'s failed rollout of a national identity card system several years ago. The huge, and hugely expensive, card project, along with a proposed National Identity Register, were scrapped in 2010 in the face of strong opposition from the public and from some quarters in government over concerns about an erosion of civil liberties and privacy. Estonia was made a charter member of the D5 by other members looking for guidance on these kinds of efforts, according to citizen activist Tuisik. "We get about 400 official visits each year that concentrate on digital matters," he says.
http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2015/6/187320-estonia/fulltext
A big challenge in developing governmental e-services is keeping them decentralized for security, while preserving cross-application compatibility.
In a recent blog, Sullivan called D5 an important development because it is an international acknowledgment of the importance of e-government. "[It] formally acknowledges the need for international collaboration to ... develop common standards and procedures," she says.
24 February 2016 00:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Estonia: A Model for e-Government
http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2015/6/187320-estonia/fulltext
Over the next decade, the population of Estonia is expected to increase more than 600%, from 1.3 million to 10 million.
No, a flood of immigrants is not likely to invade the tiny Baltic republic. This year, Estonia becomes the first country in the world to open its borders to e-residents—people who sign up for digital identification cards and digital signatures for access to a wide array of national electronic services and databases. The idea is to provide a gateway by which people outside of Estonia can make investments in Estonia, establish businesses there and, eventually, use the country as a bridge to commerce elsewhere in the European Union.
Estonia is smaller than West Virginia, and was the third-poorest of the 28 countries in the EU. Not surprisingly, a number of high-tech start-ups in the country have focused on cross-border flows. For example, Skype for voice and video communications, and TransferWise for moving money, have their origins in Estonia.
"Nordic countries strongly believe in the inclusion of different social groups, and the digital solutions help do that," Schutting says. "Access here is not a privilege, it's a right." Indeed, she says, even the poorest citizens have free Internet access at libraries, banks, post offices, and other places. A project begun in 2009, called EstWin, aims to bring 100 Mbit/s Internet access to every citizen of Estonia by the end of this year. By 2018, the speed for many users is due to be boosted to 2.5 Gbit/s.
http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2015/6/187320-estonia/fulltext
Over the next decade, the population of Estonia is expected to increase more than 600%, from 1.3 million to 10 million.
No, a flood of immigrants is not likely to invade the tiny Baltic republic. This year, Estonia becomes the first country in the world to open its borders to e-residents—people who sign up for digital identification cards and digital signatures for access to a wide array of national electronic services and databases. The idea is to provide a gateway by which people outside of Estonia can make investments in Estonia, establish businesses there and, eventually, use the country as a bridge to commerce elsewhere in the European Union.
Estonia is smaller than West Virginia, and was the third-poorest of the 28 countries in the EU. Not surprisingly, a number of high-tech start-ups in the country have focused on cross-border flows. For example, Skype for voice and video communications, and TransferWise for moving money, have their origins in Estonia.
"Nordic countries strongly believe in the inclusion of different social groups, and the digital solutions help do that," Schutting says. "Access here is not a privilege, it's a right." Indeed, she says, even the poorest citizens have free Internet access at libraries, banks, post offices, and other places. A project begun in 2009, called EstWin, aims to bring 100 Mbit/s Internet access to every citizen of Estonia by the end of this year. By 2018, the speed for many users is due to be boosted to 2.5 Gbit/s.
http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2015/6/187320-estonia/fulltext
24 February 2016 00:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
26 countries show interest in Estonia’s e-state solutions
http://estonianworld.com/technology/26-countries-show-interest-estonias-e-state-solutions/
An overview of the activities of the Estonian e-Governance Academy has revealed that the academy assisted 26 countries in adopting e-state solutions in 2014.
The e-Governance Academy (eGA) is a non-governmental, non-profit organisation, founded in 2012 for the creation and transfer of knowledge concerning e-government, e-democracy and the development of civil society. It was established as a joint initiative of the Estonian Government, the Open Society Institute (OSI), and the Bratislava Regional Support Centre of the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP).
http://estonianworld.com/technology/26-countries-show-interest-estonias-e-state-solutions/
An overview of the activities of the Estonian e-Governance Academy has revealed that the academy assisted 26 countries in adopting e-state solutions in 2014.
The e-Governance Academy (eGA) is a non-governmental, non-profit organisation, founded in 2012 for the creation and transfer of knowledge concerning e-government, e-democracy and the development of civil society. It was established as a joint initiative of the Estonian Government, the Open Society Institute (OSI), and the Bratislava Regional Support Centre of the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP).
http://estonianworld.com/technology/26-countries-show-interest-estonias-e-state-solutions/
24 February 2016 00:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Same time @UK
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/
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24 February 2016 00:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
V4 2016
http://open.commerce.gov/open-government-plan
V1 April 2010 (144 KB, 26 Pages)
http://open.commerce.gov/sites/default/files/DOC%20Open%20Government%20Plan%20040710%20FINAL_0.pdf
V1.5 2011-07-14
http://open.commerce.gov/sites/default/files/DOC%20Open%20Government%20Plan%20v%201_5%20Final%202011-07-14%20%282%29.pdf
V2 2012-04-03
http://open.commerce.gov/sites/default/files/DOC%20Open%20Government%20Plan%20v%202_0%20%202012-04-03%20Final_0.pdf
V.2.5 2013
http://open.commerce.gov/sites/default/files/DOC%20Open%20Government%20Plan%20v%202_5%20%202013-04-30_0.pdf
V3 2014
http://open.commerce.gov/sites/default/files/DOC%20Open%20Government%20Plan%20v%203_0%20%202014-05-29%20Published%20Final.pdf
V3.5 2015 (7.3 MB, 132 pages)
http://open.commerce.gov/sites/default/files/Commerce%20Open%20Government%20Plan%20Version%203_5%20%289-28-15%29%20Final.pdf
From 26 to 132 pages
http://open.commerce.gov/open-government-plan
V1 April 2010 (144 KB, 26 Pages)
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http://open.commerce.gov/sites/default/files/DOC%20Open%20Government%20Plan%20v%202_5%20%202013-04-30_0.pdf
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http://open.commerce.gov/sites/default/files/DOC%20Open%20Government%20Plan%20v%203_0%20%202014-05-29%20Published%20Final.pdf
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24 February 2016 00:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Küsisin veel, et kas "kohtumõistja" on suure tähega, kui ümber arvutisse seda kirjutasin, Ema Merlé ütles "ei..no mis tast..see ikka ei ole"
ja naljatades lõpus küsisin, aga kommunism, kuidas sellega on?
Ta vastas lõbusa irooniaga:" vaata, vot selle tarvis võta kohe kõige väiksem κ mis sellest trenaburist leiad "23 February 2016 22:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Kusjuures nii ongi, et vahest jääb mulje, et isegi Päris Eestlased, unustama hakanud arusaama, et me praeguseni kommunismis elame. Tugevalt palju ebapuhast maagiat.
Vaata mitu viisnurka, pentagrammi oma arvuti ekraanilt praegu leiad (jah ka üleval paremal pool) või millise iganes rahaTähe või ...23 February 2016 22:43
Margus Meigo replied to Ville Niemi's comment.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
how can you even turn that upside down :D23 February 2016 21:57
Margus Meigo replied to Ville Niemi's comment.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
You have it upside down, lack of greater imagination is if You can not see or imagine that there is a God23 February 2016 21:56
Margus Meigo commented on Grete Talvik's post.
Group: Tutvus
jeerum, kas neid siis siin FB küsitakse ja jagatakse ka v?
Ma täitsa ajast maha jäänud,
hoopis valest otsast pihta hakanud, pole siis ime, et edu pole olnud
wau, oot päriselt neid kohe küsitakse ja saadetakse siin v?23 February 2016 21:54
Margus Meigo replied to Marko Kaasik's comment.
Paneksin Sulle veel ühe laigi selle tähelepanuku eest, ku isaaksin;
isegi kui see tagasiside oleks ateistlik-kommunistlik-iroooniline-materialistlik .. isegi sis laigiks
isegi kui see tagasiside oleks ateistlik-kommunistlik-iroooniline-materialistlik .. isegi sis laigiks
23 February 2016 18:54
Margus Meigo replied to Marko Kaasik's comment.
Seda nüüd küll jah, kui juba füüsika, psühedeelia, Nõid ja Jumal ühes lauses on, see iseenesest, juba nõidus-maagia ise, päris võimas ja suur
mida see inimeste peas loob.
Ütleks lausa, et päris kõrge võlukunst-heatahtlikmaagia lausa
Sest kui tihti veel selliseid sõnu koos inimese peas lahtipakitud on, kes nüüd süvalugemisega tegeled ja iga selle sõna kõrgeima tähenduse peast läbilaseb...
Võimas
mida see inimeste peas loob.
Ütleks lausa, et päris kõrge võlukunst-heatahtlikmaagia lausa
Sest kui tihti veel selliseid sõnu koos inimese peas lahtipakitud on, kes nüüd süvalugemisega tegeled ja iga selle sõna kõrgeima tähenduse peast läbilaseb...
Võimas
23 February 2016 18:53
Margus Meigo replied to Marko Kaasik's comment.
ega siis jumal pole alkoloid või ei tea mis asi, need Jumala tööriistad, mis intelligentselt ehitatud, mille järgi meie liik ehitatud selliselt, et to meid arusaama paneb ja kokku saab viia node olendite ja loojate jms.
sest muidu me aju sellises staadiumis, et tulnukatel isegi pole midagi rääkida meiega
sest muidu me aju sellises staadiumis, et tulnukatel isegi pole midagi rääkida meiega
23 February 2016 17:01
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Ansip's post.
Naiivne, jah... ja kahjuks vanematega tal vast ka link suhetes katki, et juuksed ära lõiganud ja.. .. kuid soov oli tal siiras, julge ju nende heade peale keda kohanud on sinnamani. Kahju, et ta pidevalt raadio netiga oma videosi reisist üles ei laadinud..
Olen ise ka mitmekümnes maas käinud, sh Thai, Hiiina, Australia, Ameerika ühendriike, Hawaii, Põhja mariaanid, Aafrika riike nii üleval kuiall, maad moodi, getodes olnud...
Tead ainuke koht kus kallale tuldi, kus rööviti, oli Austraalia, kahe valge poolt, viisaka koha ligi,
virutasin ühele selle playeriga (vanaaeg) mida röövida tahtis mööda vahtimist... mis kinni ei jää saab ... :D nu vähemalt nad ei saanud seda endale tervena mida soovisid :D
Olen ise ka mitmekümnes maas käinud, sh Thai, Hiiina, Australia, Ameerika ühendriike, Hawaii, Põhja mariaanid, Aafrika riike nii üleval kuiall, maad moodi, getodes olnud...
Tead ainuke koht kus kallale tuldi, kus rööviti, oli Austraalia, kahe valge poolt, viisaka koha ligi,
virutasin ühele selle playeriga (vanaaeg) mida röövida tahtis mööda vahtimist... mis kinni ei jää saab ... :D nu vähemalt nad ei saanud seda endale tervena mida soovisid :D
23 February 2016 16:52
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Ansip's post.
Ning selliste uudiste osas, kus selgelt on näha,et tegu ei olnud ei lolli ega paha inimesega, ei tohi sellist retoorikat kasutada.
Suurem osa mehi ei julge inlisemaalegi Eestist hääletada üksi
Suurem osa mehi ei julge inlisemaalegi Eestist hääletada üksi
23 February 2016 16:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
samade homode, sama vaim, kes usklikute silmis tegi Greeka-Rooma Geysririigis, koos Alexander Suur Homo läbi peale surutud sõjaväelise ajupesu, meelte vägistus programmi, mida nüüd siis Gümnaasiumiks või kooliks kutsutakse.
Ega kosmosekommunistid muidu nii enesekindlad poleks oma pentagrammide toppimisega igalepoole, nad lihtsalt väga kindlad irvitades,et kuna suurem osa valitsev klass õpib seda versiooni haridusest mille nad 2000a tagasi kehtestasid, siis on ka ette ja taha teada kuidas ja kuhu liigutakse, kuidas saab manipuleerida ja mis lõbustusi keegi vajab, kellel mis hirmud ja ihaldused, soovid.
Sõna "gümnaasium" tuleb ise sõnast alasti, poiste... noh, neile meeldisid tol ajal lausa avalikult promoda seda, ja poistel ei lubatud ka habet, et nad ikka ponksid oleksid kenasti reas... eks see habemeajamise kultuur siiani meil uhkelt moes koos mitme muu kiiksuga,
mida vabandatakse siis hügeeni ja moega välja... et "teised ka kõik nii teevad ja see standar..."
Ega kosmosekommunistid muidu nii enesekindlad poleks oma pentagrammide toppimisega igalepoole, nad lihtsalt väga kindlad irvitades,et kuna suurem osa valitsev klass õpib seda versiooni haridusest mille nad 2000a tagasi kehtestasid, siis on ka ette ja taha teada kuidas ja kuhu liigutakse, kuidas saab manipuleerida ja mis lõbustusi keegi vajab, kellel mis hirmud ja ihaldused, soovid.
Sõna "gümnaasium" tuleb ise sõnast alasti, poiste... noh, neile meeldisid tol ajal lausa avalikult promoda seda, ja poistel ei lubatud ka habet, et nad ikka ponksid oleksid kenasti reas... eks see habemeajamise kultuur siiani meil uhkelt moes koos mitme muu kiiksuga,
mida vabandatakse siis hügeeni ja moega välja... et "teised ka kõik nii teevad ja see standar..."
23 February 2016 16:37
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Ansip's post.
ära tuleb likvideerida KÕIK sellised, olenematta asukohast, kuid ERITI siin kohapeal, et meil oleks täielik kohene õigus sellistega asjad korda ajada.
Islami usu viga ajus on see, et neil on mitu naist lubatud ja seega neil siis pole arusaama, et Naine on kõrgema väärtusega kui mees. (tava moslemid siis, müstik ja puhas moslemid on sama head, heas mõttes kui keskmiselt normaalsed õiged kristlased)
Samal ajal euroopa akadeemikud siinkohal kommunistliku "võrdõiguslikust" siin peale määrivad, väga räigel viisil, mis siis tegelikult on homode viimane püüe naist all hoida, sundides naised samal standardil olema, et nad ei saaks aatelisi väärtusi tõsta ega meest kõrgemale kaasa kutsuda (ega ennast motiveeritult tunda, kuna tema peab olema võrdne selle rullnoka või jõhkardiga...).,
Võrdsus lõhub veel psüholoogia, sest see siis ütleb, et nad peavad andma seksi mehele vasta tahtmist, sest "mehel on vajadused..."
mis omakorda lõhub ära igasuguse väärtuseja armutunde seksuaalsuhetes, tulevad petmised ja ükskõiksus, sügavad psüholoogilised häired
Islami usu viga ajus on see, et neil on mitu naist lubatud ja seega neil siis pole arusaama, et Naine on kõrgema väärtusega kui mees. (tava moslemid siis, müstik ja puhas moslemid on sama head, heas mõttes kui keskmiselt normaalsed õiged kristlased)
Samal ajal euroopa akadeemikud siinkohal kommunistliku "võrdõiguslikust" siin peale määrivad, väga räigel viisil, mis siis tegelikult on homode viimane püüe naist all hoida, sundides naised samal standardil olema, et nad ei saaks aatelisi väärtusi tõsta ega meest kõrgemale kaasa kutsuda (ega ennast motiveeritult tunda, kuna tema peab olema võrdne selle rullnoka või jõhkardiga...).,
Võrdsus lõhub veel psüholoogia, sest see siis ütleb, et nad peavad andma seksi mehele vasta tahtmist, sest "mehel on vajadused..."
mis omakorda lõhub ära igasuguse väärtuseja armutunde seksuaalsuhetes, tulevad petmised ja ükskõiksus, sügavad psüholoogilised häired
23 February 2016 16:34
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Ansip's post.
Nu idioodiks teda ka nüüd kutsuda ei tasu,
Eestis on väga vähe tüdrukuid kes hääletanud tartu tallina vahel ja kellele pole soovitud kätt püksi ajada kui ainult mees on roolis olnud,
vähemalt kolme tüdrukut tean olema vägistatud isiklikust isiklikust ringkonnast.
Keegi neist ei julgenud politseisse minna, ei vanematele ega ka peaaegu mitte kellegile teisele rääkida, sest häbi oli suur ja ei soovita, et neid asju mõeldakse temast kuiteda nähakse edaspidi.
Lihtsalt mul on teada, et ma edasi nimeliselt kedagi ei räägi sellistes asjades ju selle pärast saanud teada täiesti ulmelisi lugusi mida ikka pidudel ja elus rutiinselt tehakse.
Need haiged kohe oskavad kuidagi leida selliseid, kes ei lähe politseisse õigete ähvarduste korral
Eestis on väga vähe tüdrukuid kes hääletanud tartu tallina vahel ja kellele pole soovitud kätt püksi ajada kui ainult mees on roolis olnud,
vähemalt kolme tüdrukut tean olema vägistatud isiklikust isiklikust ringkonnast.
Keegi neist ei julgenud politseisse minna, ei vanematele ega ka peaaegu mitte kellegile teisele rääkida, sest häbi oli suur ja ei soovita, et neid asju mõeldakse temast kuiteda nähakse edaspidi.
Lihtsalt mul on teada, et ma edasi nimeliselt kedagi ei räägi sellistes asjades ju selle pärast saanud teada täiesti ulmelisi lugusi mida ikka pidudel ja elus rutiinselt tehakse.
Need haiged kohe oskavad kuidagi leida selliseid, kes ei lähe politseisse õigete ähvarduste korral
23 February 2016 16:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://youtu.be/8v_4O44sfjM?list=RDEbJtYqBYCV8&t=242
https://youtu.be/8v_4O44sfjM?list=RDEbJtYqBYCV8&t=242
23 February 2016 09:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muidugi, selline love on ka messedup:
kuid, kui palju on neid...
ja veel neid kes tõepoolest ennast põlemisemõnudesse istutanud
need misjonäärid kes noid asju muudavad, jah, respect ka neile.. kuigi see karm tõde vist, et see eri olendite kes läbi inimeste kasvatab kasvatuseks loodud, kogu see draama.. kuid mis sellega peale hakata, kui inimene tahab peatuse peale panna ja öelda, et : hey... ärgem kasutagem me kehi sedasi, me proovime mõelda parema mooduse.. kuidas kõiki hingi ühesse tööse saada. Sest ega rahu siis tulema hakka uksest ja aknast ainult kui inimesed kätest võtavadja ummajeed laulavad.. inimeste vahelised tülid saab veel lihtsalt lahendada, kui need inimeste omad ainult oleks, aga väga palju muid olendeid ja palju muud veel tulemas, kes täitsa oma silmade läbi midagi muud siit näevad ja tevad.. teevad tihti seda kes nende tulekut märganud ja nad toimetama rakendanud millegi kasuks siin tehases käsihõõrudes..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=RDEbJtYqBYCV8&v=uelHwf8o7_U
kuid, kui palju on neid...
ja veel neid kes tõepoolest ennast põlemisemõnudesse istutanud
need misjonäärid kes noid asju muudavad, jah, respect ka neile.. kuigi see karm tõde vist, et see eri olendite kes läbi inimeste kasvatab kasvatuseks loodud, kogu see draama.. kuid mis sellega peale hakata, kui inimene tahab peatuse peale panna ja öelda, et : hey... ärgem kasutagem me kehi sedasi, me proovime mõelda parema mooduse.. kuidas kõiki hingi ühesse tööse saada. Sest ega rahu siis tulema hakka uksest ja aknast ainult kui inimesed kätest võtavadja ummajeed laulavad.. inimeste vahelised tülid saab veel lihtsalt lahendada, kui need inimeste omad ainult oleks, aga väga palju muid olendeid ja palju muud veel tulemas, kes täitsa oma silmade läbi midagi muud siit näevad ja tevad.. teevad tihti seda kes nende tulekut märganud ja nad toimetama rakendanud millegi kasuks siin tehases käsihõõrudes..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=RDEbJtYqBYCV8&v=uelHwf8o7_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=RDEbJtYqBYCV8&v=uelHwf8o7_U
23 February 2016 09:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui oled ise seisuses kus saad võtta mida iganes, siis tuleb loota, et keegi seda teeb
See on see raskus...
Kuid jah, "naisele minek" erinevas astmes kõlab õige ja poolõige vahepeal, sõnaliselt.. peab mõtlema selle tähenduse igakülje peale
See on see raskus...
Kuid jah, "naisele minek" erinevas astmes kõlab õige ja poolõige vahepeal, sõnaliselt.. peab mõtlema selle tähenduse igakülje peale
23 February 2016 09:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
loodetavasti küll jah :D
(kui need mehised käed väljaarvata)
Ja kett peab olema piisavalt lühike, et selledest universumikestest minema ei lenda ega keegi näpsata saa
kuid eks see õige ole, et peab ise ikka jahil olema, ürgmehe mõttes... kuigi oled saak, kuihästi läheb
(kui need mehised käed väljaarvata)
Ja kett peab olema piisavalt lühike, et selledest universumikestest minema ei lenda ega keegi näpsata saa
kuid eks see õige ole, et peab ise ikka jahil olema, ürgmehe mõttes... kuigi oled saak, kuihästi läheb
23 February 2016 09:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i do not wanna miss single thing, You do @ all
23 February 2016 08:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But tell us more about Vlad : )
23 February 2016 07:48
Margus Meigo replied to Carlton Lee's comment.
yes it is
23 February 2016 07:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi, eks ma muutu paar sammu veel leebemaks ja mõistlikumaks kohe peale naisele minekut.. kuid eks ta endale enda algfundamendi meeldetuletuseks ja näitamiseks ole
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%206%3A12&version=CJB;OJB
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%206%3A12&version=CJB;OJB
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+6%3A12&version=CJB%3BOJB
23 February 2016 07:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid see tagatausta lisatöö, eelnevalt tuleb muidugi ennetustööga 92% + osas tegeleda,
lülitades välja meediast ja arusaamadest liigirikkujate tehnolooogiad ja arusaamad.
Dysgenics ehk siis teadus kuidas liiki alaarendada, väärastada, rikkuda, mustata ja hävitada on viisnurga üks väga olulisi ja pikemalt, suurte rahadega rahastatud teadusprojekte.
Loos taimevastaste programmidega.
Sest ega me ei võitle mitte inimeste, vaid vaimsete ja "taevaste" vägedega, Ephesians 6:12
kes on inimliigi vastased, looduse vastu võitlejad, selle allutajad ja ennekõike nad pole mestis naistega
lülitades välja meediast ja arusaamadest liigirikkujate tehnolooogiad ja arusaamad.
Dysgenics ehk siis teadus kuidas liiki alaarendada, väärastada, rikkuda, mustata ja hävitada on viisnurga üks väga olulisi ja pikemalt, suurte rahadega rahastatud teadusprojekte.
Loos taimevastaste programmidega.
Sest ega me ei võitle mitte inimeste, vaid vaimsete ja "taevaste" vägedega, Ephesians 6:12
kes on inimliigi vastased, looduse vastu võitlejad, selle allutajad ja ennekõike nad pole mestis naistega
23 February 2016 07:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi ei pea hakkama masslikvideerimist tegema avalikult, vaid vaikselt kaotama neid kelle käitumist ilmselgelt poel vaja ja ka kelle seeme kavatusest suurt tolku ei saa tulla võrreldes potensiaalse kahjuga, ehk nagu ka aiamaal, tuleb teha valikud. Muidugi meil siin veider komme aiamaa mustaks kitkuda - seda pole vaja, on ka umbrohtu mis on kasulik, mis toimib kui õli ühiskonnas, kuid on ka ilmselgelt need, kes küll pekas olemuselt olema ka kahepoolsed nagu inimloom (hea ning halb loomus), kuid kelle "hea" loomus, on lihtsalt heal juhul mitte halvategemine, seega ta 0 i ja miinuse vahel kõigub, mitte plussi ja miinuse, seega kasutegur olematu,sest mida inimene tava olekus teha suudab, numbreid trükkida või asju, sellega saab ka igaüks hakkama ning ei kaalu selle väärtus üle kahju mida ta peale tööd teeb, mis teiste töökust, rahulolu, elukvaliteeti ja eluteesi rikub kordades rohkem, nagu liikuv radioktiivne...
.. ja see peaks olema ka rahulikult selgitatav... noile, ning noh, ...
hmm.. nende mõtetega sedasi, et kohe kergelt näha kui kergesti need kiiva minevad on, sest kus Sa neid rakendajaid ikka leiad, kes üle maa pidevalt tundeliselt välja sorteeriks tundetuid ja tunnetega neid kes liigile kahjulikud
ning kellel siis jätkuks südant, loodusravi vabatahtlikult mitte vastuvõtjate osas ka järgmine samm teha
.. ja see peaks olema ka rahulikult selgitatav... noile, ning noh, ...
hmm.. nende mõtetega sedasi, et kohe kergelt näha kui kergesti need kiiva minevad on, sest kus Sa neid rakendajaid ikka leiad, kes üle maa pidevalt tundeliselt välja sorteeriks tundetuid ja tunnetega neid kes liigile kahjulikud
ning kellel siis jätkuks südant, loodusravi vabatahtlikult mitte vastuvõtjate osas ka järgmine samm teha
23 February 2016 07:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Soo" all mõtlen siis seda liiki meest, kellel ari sorti üleolevus ja nõrgema suhtes ründavus on veres
Loomulikult on vaja ka neid, kes hammastega karu katki tirida jaksvad, mitte, et ma ühegi looma nottimist kuidagi toetaks,
Kuigi, väikeseid erandeid nahkade osas võib _Veel teha, kui seda "indiaanilikult teha" osata. Mitte, et ka nende liigid kõik nüüd nii kukupaid oleks, suht haigeid ikka igas ilmakaares kellel südameaustus puudu.
Kuigi praeguse standardi järgi me vaatame lihtsalt, haigete all neid kes oma vastasoo või sookaaslase nõrgema isendi kallal meelega rõvetseb, kahjustab lõhub, alaarendab - need teevad kõik karuteene liigile, noid alles hoides. Isegi kui tundub, et node lapsed enamuses on viisakad, siis isegi mitte jõhkardina üles kasvades, nad ei ole samal looduslikul ja vaimsel tasemel, kui korralikus taluperes, looduslike ja aatelike väärtustega üleskasvatanud, millede aretamised meil siin Eestis uuesti moodi lähevad, õnneks, veel viimasel õigel ajal
Loomulikult on vaja ka neid, kes hammastega karu katki tirida jaksvad, mitte, et ma ühegi looma nottimist kuidagi toetaks,
Kuigi, väikeseid erandeid nahkade osas võib _Veel teha, kui seda "indiaanilikult teha" osata. Mitte, et ka nende liigid kõik nüüd nii kukupaid oleks, suht haigeid ikka igas ilmakaares kellel südameaustus puudu.
Kuigi praeguse standardi järgi me vaatame lihtsalt, haigete all neid kes oma vastasoo või sookaaslase nõrgema isendi kallal meelega rõvetseb, kahjustab lõhub, alaarendab - need teevad kõik karuteene liigile, noid alles hoides. Isegi kui tundub, et node lapsed enamuses on viisakad, siis isegi mitte jõhkardina üles kasvades, nad ei ole samal looduslikul ja vaimsel tasemel, kui korralikus taluperes, looduslike ja aatelike väärtustega üleskasvatanud, millede aretamised meil siin Eestis uuesti moodi lähevad, õnneks, veel viimasel õigel ajal
23 February 2016 07:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(iiiigaks juhuks selgitus juurde veel) Ning vägivalla haiguse likvideerimine ei tähenda, et meest ennast peaks oma tarvilikuse juures ära likvideerima. Lihtsalt need kes endast nõrgemaid teevad ja liiki rikuvad väärkäitumistega mis meelega vastassugu lõhkuv
23 February 2016 07:22
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
aga kuidas see olukorra lahendaks nende osas keda vaja likvideerida on ?
23 February 2016 07:18
Margus Meigo replied to Rauno Soosaar's comment.
Nüüd tuleb jätkata sirgel teel
23 February 2016 07:16
Margus Meigo commented on Siiri Alberg's link.
Muidugi... eks ta sutsu irooniline meeste mõttele ärgitamine ole kui NAINE otsib jumalat... :p
mehejaoks Naine saabki olla, lähim kontakt jumalaga füüsilises reaalsuses mis olema saab kunagi
ja see on vaadates kristlikust perspektiivist
mehejaoks Naine saabki olla, lähim kontakt jumalaga füüsilises reaalsuses mis olema saab kunagi
ja see on vaadates kristlikust perspektiivist
22 February 2016 16:12
Margus Meigo commented on Siiri Alberg's link.
Kindlasti see on ÕIGEM koht kui LHC, see particle smasher.. väga palju õigem koht ja suurtemate kauslikumate tulemustega ka
22 February 2016 16:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tänapäeval on väga peened vahendid ebavajalike likvideerimiseks, tuleb ainult palvetada, et UN neid vahendeid piisavalt õigesti kasutama hakkab vigaste ravi tarvis,
nanotehnoloogiad mis läbi naha imenduvad ja soo jätkamise võimatuks teevad muutes keha sisemuses struktuure, jah võimalik. Info oli avalikult isegi üleval Gatesi Foundationi lehel aastaid tagasi.
See peab ikka väga suur usuline pöörduvus olema, koos enese ise üles andmisega, mis Püha Vaimu vastu rõvedalt käitunu alles peaks jätma, kuni järgmise korrani.
Jah, on ained mis selle enamuste jaoks väga ohutuna korda ajavad, ... kuid need kes selle vastu protesteerivad... et tahavad alles endas jätta vaimu (või siis "psüholoogilist hälvet" ) mis...
nanotehnoloogiad mis läbi naha imenduvad ja soo jätkamise võimatuks teevad muutes keha sisemuses struktuure, jah võimalik. Info oli avalikult isegi üleval Gatesi Foundationi lehel aastaid tagasi.
See peab ikka väga suur usuline pöörduvus olema, koos enese ise üles andmisega, mis Püha Vaimu vastu rõvedalt käitunu alles peaks jätma, kuni järgmise korrani.
Jah, on ained mis selle enamuste jaoks väga ohutuna korda ajavad, ... kuid need kes selle vastu protesteerivad... et tahavad alles endas jätta vaimu (või siis "psüholoogilist hälvet" ) mis...
22 February 2016 15:18
Margus Meigo commented on Agne Kgl's post.
not even going in to make up thing..
22 February 2016 09:52
Margus Meigo commented on Agne Kgl's post.
in all, i am actually really starting to be "rassist against" women who shave their body hair under there, as it is just not nice imho and not a natural to shave
and for next everyone who blondes their hair, just poisoning her mind and hair for no real reason besides wanting to feel that others thing about her then ..
blondes color them self in to bryntes and brynetes in to blondes.. what is up girls
and for next everyone who blondes their hair, just poisoning her mind and hair for no real reason besides wanting to feel that others thing about her then ..
blondes color them self in to bryntes and brynetes in to blondes.. what is up girls
22 February 2016 09:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i just cant get it
22 February 2016 09:50
Margus Meigo commented on Agne Kgl's post.
REally, for that small amount of they made a trouble...
people need to get medicated, but on some other, harder kind of things
current chemicals they eat clearly does not do
http://rack.0.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE2LzAxLzA3LzcwL2JvZHloYWlyc2VsLmI5NjNmLmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTk1MHg1MzQjCmUJanBn/1d21a7c5/142/body-hair-selfie.jpg
people need to get medicated, but on some other, harder kind of things
current chemicals they eat clearly does not do
http://rack.0.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE2LzAxLzA3LzcwL2JvZHloYWlyc2VsLmI5NjNmLmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTk1MHg1MzQjCmUJanBn/1d21a7c5/142/body-hair-selfie.jpg
http://rack.0.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE2LzAxLzA3LzcwL2JvZHloYWlyc2VsLmI5NjNmLmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTk1MHg1MzQjCmUJanBn/1d21a7c5/142/body-hair-selfie.jpg
22 February 2016 09:49
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's post.
really great project!
22 February 2016 09:41
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's post.
This gay dude was totally confused and amazed same time, really felt uncomfortable :D
22 February 2016 09:41
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Pannett's post.
somewomen once told, that tits is proof, that man can focus/think 2 things same time
22 February 2016 09:37
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Pannett's post.
Man , this is nice one.
22 February 2016 09:33
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Pannett's photo.
..but at times is good times right..
22 February 2016 09:30
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Pannett's photo.
:D
22 February 2016 09:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and here more.. https://goo.gl/zZZCrJ
https://goo.gl/zZZCrJ
21 February 2016 22:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But for real, what is Your favorite monarchs, aristocrats, royals alive for now by potential ?
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_current_sovereign_monarchs
also likes:
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_European_Jewish_nobility
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_family_seats_of_English_nobility and all the Africa and Asia ones...
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_current_sovereign_monarchs
also likes:
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_European_Jewish_nobility
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_family_seats_of_English_nobility and all the Africa and Asia ones...
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_current_sovereign_monarchs
21 February 2016 22:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
:D Yeah, he would know how to sort out these..
21 February 2016 21:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But i do are thankful for a comment Ungureanu Andrei, just have to live out my thoughts related to anything that comes against more holy people, to keep reality neat
as we might know, what is worth of the people, besides bad things they do, but for most.. they just search for that only.. and ignore any other worth .. not taking in to consideration of situations that are more deeper then most far out movies that are seen
as we might know, what is worth of the people, besides bad things they do, but for most.. they just search for that only.. and ignore any other worth .. not taking in to consideration of situations that are more deeper then most far out movies that are seen
21 February 2016 21:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
communist pentagram slaves have two main plans, to eliminate ANY royalty or spiritual leader who cause to much trouble, who talk to much publicly.. to eliminate them immediately, by various arsenal of weapons from cancer weapons to assassinations made look as done by some other royals if needed, to have larger damage,
or elimination by Time.. aka let them die of peacefully, naturally at same time separating people minds from them as them having any value at all... (and corrupting the left overs as much possible, intellectually even, besides biologically, and kind of spiritually)... but they can stay alive... as long they keep them self hidden from major media (with exception of Queen house.. who managed to get a bit better deal, for her size)
if anyone is noticed to start to link up with others, against them would be used made up pedophile or any other accusation for what they have perfect media and 1:1 doubles for performing any kind of crime that can be blamed enough in common media, that any organization taking a side with them, will be looked as "protector of these kind.."
and then they die of in history books with a bad name.. as a end chapter .. lies that can not be washed off so easy... so who would risk with that.. FOR a people, who spit in their face and prefer to live by lower standards then of these what god made them for, in sync with a nature ?
or elimination by Time.. aka let them die of peacefully, naturally at same time separating people minds from them as them having any value at all... (and corrupting the left overs as much possible, intellectually even, besides biologically, and kind of spiritually)... but they can stay alive... as long they keep them self hidden from major media (with exception of Queen house.. who managed to get a bit better deal, for her size)
if anyone is noticed to start to link up with others, against them would be used made up pedophile or any other accusation for what they have perfect media and 1:1 doubles for performing any kind of crime that can be blamed enough in common media, that any organization taking a side with them, will be looked as "protector of these kind.."
and then they die of in history books with a bad name.. as a end chapter .. lies that can not be washed off so easy... so who would risk with that.. FOR a people, who spit in their face and prefer to live by lower standards then of these what god made them for, in sync with a nature ?
21 February 2016 21:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but yea.. he also wears a tie by now...
and still, hes potential value is more then most of politics..
just because of the value he is surrounded by
and still, hes potential value is more then most of politics..
just because of the value he is surrounded by
21 February 2016 21:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Well, it is kind of .. telling that " Michael was a weak king. He tried to oppose communism but couldnt stop it " - this is the fault of people, but in most is like telling : "
He told he is great fighter, but he was unable to stop alien invasion, screw that wannabe black belt.. "
How many there we know country that has been able to stand communists? Who did not underestimate the scope of spiritual warfare in any imaginable level at same time., cooked up by Vikings, Roman Empire and Greeks and..
some rant:
most of the country politics is vearing tie now around the next,
they save their beard and cut hair as "society demands" (Empire actually, as it removes certain kind of powers, also mentally), the women wear high heals to weaker their position with fake ego based beauty and all these harmful products, fashions, way of talking and writing, ALL that is a fruit of REAL Communism, pentagram... how much of a software has a pentagram now, and websites, and services as in a part of logo ? How much of a money You see is with out pentagram ?
Well. even global spiritual, religious and occultist networks was unable to stop that... Well, , we DID stop in a way, enough to a level, that enough seeds, plants, knowledge, people, stories and all that was preserved, hidden in plain sight that hope can stay alive, to turn progress around in to proper living,
as these bastards was so insane. that they would even have cut of their own life lines, as their knowledge what and how much they wanted to eliminate, just in case.. so the concurring would be finale..
But we are still here, for educating aliens, that if they want us to keep them alive, then they got a lot to learn,
But some of them , perhaps have to agree for good, to end their existence.. but that is all good, as they ended up a lot of species and cultures existence in these worlds.
There is option for them to be remembered, as someone who went well, or someone who needed to be eliminated so others can live. As by no means, all of them would not be able to stay alive.. so would the agree to die honestly, nicely?
Humans are so powerful species, if we are explained to what kind of illness we have ,to save our friends, we do it.. but these robot minds are not capable of that ,
so yeah.. hard might seem, but ,,,
Humans must just agree, to clean their body and not sharing it as a host for these who stay alive thanks to using us in a way we would not agree...and , for a reason to eliminate any true enemy they see for them to be, who call elimination of a bad, including them..
He told he is great fighter, but he was unable to stop alien invasion, screw that wannabe black belt.. "
How many there we know country that has been able to stand communists? Who did not underestimate the scope of spiritual warfare in any imaginable level at same time., cooked up by Vikings, Roman Empire and Greeks and..
some rant:
most of the country politics is vearing tie now around the next,
they save their beard and cut hair as "society demands" (Empire actually, as it removes certain kind of powers, also mentally), the women wear high heals to weaker their position with fake ego based beauty and all these harmful products, fashions, way of talking and writing, ALL that is a fruit of REAL Communism, pentagram... how much of a software has a pentagram now, and websites, and services as in a part of logo ? How much of a money You see is with out pentagram ?
Well. even global spiritual, religious and occultist networks was unable to stop that... Well, , we DID stop in a way, enough to a level, that enough seeds, plants, knowledge, people, stories and all that was preserved, hidden in plain sight that hope can stay alive, to turn progress around in to proper living,
as these bastards was so insane. that they would even have cut of their own life lines, as their knowledge what and how much they wanted to eliminate, just in case.. so the concurring would be finale..
But we are still here, for educating aliens, that if they want us to keep them alive, then they got a lot to learn,
But some of them , perhaps have to agree for good, to end their existence.. but that is all good, as they ended up a lot of species and cultures existence in these worlds.
There is option for them to be remembered, as someone who went well, or someone who needed to be eliminated so others can live. As by no means, all of them would not be able to stay alive.. so would the agree to die honestly, nicely?
Humans are so powerful species, if we are explained to what kind of illness we have ,to save our friends, we do it.. but these robot minds are not capable of that ,
so yeah.. hard might seem, but ,,,
Humans must just agree, to clean their body and not sharing it as a host for these who stay alive thanks to using us in a way we would not agree...and , for a reason to eliminate any true enemy they see for them to be, who call elimination of a bad, including them..
21 February 2016 21:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Also lets keep in mind the:
Mickael 1st - current claimant to the defunct throne of Romania, he was also a Prince of The House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen,
He is the last surviving monarch or other head of state from the Interwar period, and the oldest of only three surviving heads of state from the Second World War, the others being the former King Simeon II of Bulgaria and Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Michael_I_of_Romania
Mickael 1st - current claimant to the defunct throne of Romania, he was also a Prince of The House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen,
He is the last surviving monarch or other head of state from the Interwar period, and the oldest of only three surviving heads of state from the Second World War, the others being the former King Simeon II of Bulgaria and Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Michael_I_of_Romania
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Michael_I_of_Romania
21 February 2016 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's photo.
Your skills are elite
21 February 2016 19:51
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Tšekenjuk's photo.
Hoiab siis sooja rohkem eksju ?
21 February 2016 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Tšekenjuk's photo.
Oeh, ma alles nüüd hakkasin mõtlema...et see roo katus ju nagu saab võtta kui müts inimese peas.. et see palju soojem kui mis iganes muu müts kivist või kilest.
Hmm, lisaks sellele, et kena on
Hmm, lisaks sellele, et kena on
21 February 2016 17:20
Margus Meigo replied to Roberto Fox's comment.
blessed u are
21 February 2016 13:20
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Pärk's post.
Group: LOOMASÕBRAD
hmm:)21 February 2016 06:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Normal means Good,
Good means evolving in to direction needed for god..
and direction is that what makes life good for Women... then man is happy..
and happy man can work for free , for ones family... and help neighbor...
so yeha, REAL religious people know NWO as only way that should be and anything against it is against nature against humans and against freedom... as this is how basic god plan should come and be..
and the NWO .. is actually OWO... Old World Order
Good means evolving in to direction needed for god..
and direction is that what makes life good for Women... then man is happy..
and happy man can work for free , for ones family... and help neighbor...
so yeha, REAL religious people know NWO as only way that should be and anything against it is against nature against humans and against freedom... as this is how basic god plan should come and be..
and the NWO .. is actually OWO... Old World Order
21 February 2016 05:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
no one likes MY long and old and proper religious plan for NWO .. so there will come then this one that can come. if people them self not able to make what should come.. one way or another, hopefully one way
humans , spirits in human bodies..cant keep fighting and eliminating cultures.. and lowering the levels of Women.. human must start to be normal..
humans , spirits in human bodies..cant keep fighting and eliminating cultures.. and lowering the levels of Women.. human must start to be normal..
21 February 2016 05:47
Margus Meigo commented on George Mansour's video.
Kas te kõik kes laikisite siin usklikud inimesed puha?
Väga kena : )
Väga kena : )
21 February 2016 05:33
Margus Meigo commented on Mina Krissu Ehala's post.
Kena on see laul : )
Kuid maad kurja ja kõike seda e itasu.... nutta, sest noh, seegi kingitus, et üldse võimaluse veel sündida said.. võrreldes muude valikutega.. siit kaudu vähemalt võimalik edasi saada suurelt,,, suure hüppega ... kui raske elu on.. siis seda kaugemale saame jõuda kiiresti, selle elukese ajal siin, ja kui loodusega sõbraks jääd.. siis alles õiged maailmad avanevad...
Kuid maad kurja ja kõike seda e itasu.... nutta, sest noh, seegi kingitus, et üldse võimaluse veel sündida said.. võrreldes muude valikutega.. siit kaudu vähemalt võimalik edasi saada suurelt,,, suure hüppega ... kui raske elu on.. siis seda kaugemale saame jõuda kiiresti, selle elukese ajal siin, ja kui loodusega sõbraks jääd.. siis alles õiged maailmad avanevad...
21 February 2016 05:29
Margus Meigo commented on Laurake Roosi's photo.
Kena kook : )
21 February 2016 05:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid kulpi ma ikka visanud tal poleks, ever
see tundub ebaloogiline lihtsalt midagi taolist teha
kätt surunud aga küll ja paar mehe soovitust andnud,
või uurinud, et miks ta nii tagasihoidlik on plaanide osas...
see tundub ebaloogiline lihtsalt midagi taolist teha
kätt surunud aga küll ja paar mehe soovitust andnud,
või uurinud, et miks ta nii tagasihoidlik on plaanide osas...
21 February 2016 02:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja ta polnud nagu päris puutin, et karudega show pärast maadles.. ta päriselt ka taimetoidu promoja oli, himler ka ja..
21 February 2016 02:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
As You can see, he was able to be pretty normal also: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater
wonder what went wrong (besides taking on Marthin Luther beliefs about jews and ... well, at least he did not take hes views on about Women.. )
As You can see, he was able to be pretty normal also: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=975683685795292&set=a.382169288480071.87611.100000610105877&type=3&theater
wonder what went wrong (besides taking on Marthin Luther beliefs about jews and ... well, at least he did not take hes views on about Women.. )
21 February 2016 02:38
Margus Meigo replied to Mark Talley's comment.
God is a Lord, Jesus is a servant of a God, this is a bit different mate..
If we keep up this women hater jew hater Marthin Luther and Roman Empire views, that "Jesus is the Lord" then You will newer get approval of God (unless You will be happy to join in love with a women, deep, ... women love can save all, once You believe right on to her)
If we keep up this women hater jew hater Marthin Luther and Roman Empire views, that "Jesus is the Lord" then You will newer get approval of God (unless You will be happy to join in love with a women, deep, ... women love can save all, once You believe right on to her)
21 February 2016 02:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
February 12. 2016 (for a march 2016 conference)
Can You imagine, all that, instead implementing simple understanding about Matriarchy
http://www2.unwomen.org/~/media/headquarters/attachments/sections/csw/60/draft%20agreed%20conclusions_presented%20by%20csw%20bureau_12%20february%202016.pdf
and taking that on as a religion that is not debatable (for human species )
Can You imagine, all that, instead implementing simple understanding about Matriarchy
http://www2.unwomen.org/~/media/headquarters/attachments/sections/csw/60/draft%20agreed%20conclusions_presented%20by%20csw%20bureau_12%20february%202016.pdf
and taking that on as a religion that is not debatable (for human species )
21 February 2016 01:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Women’s empowerment and its link to sustainable development
Review theme:
The elimination and prevention of all forms of violence against women and girls (agreed conclusions from the fifty-seventh session)
The sixtieth session of the Commission on the Status of Women will take place at the United Nations Headquarters in New York from 14 to 24 March 2016.
Representatives of Member States, UN entities, and ECOSOC-accredited non-governmental organizations (NGOs) from all regions of the world will attend the session.
See CSW60 Brochure.
http://www.unwomen.org/en/csw/csw60-2016
Review theme:
The elimination and prevention of all forms of violence against women and girls (agreed conclusions from the fifty-seventh session)
The sixtieth session of the Commission on the Status of Women will take place at the United Nations Headquarters in New York from 14 to 24 March 2016.
Representatives of Member States, UN entities, and ECOSOC-accredited non-governmental organizations (NGOs) from all regions of the world will attend the session.
See CSW60 Brochure.
http://www.unwomen.org/en/csw/csw60-2016
http://www.unwomen.org/en/csw/csw60-2016
21 February 2016 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's live video.
So basically, i hope to build a proper one world that is real Iluminati based, , UN_like like:
http://esango.un.org/civilsociety/simpleSearch.do?method=search&searchTypeRedef=simpleSearch&sessionCheck=false&searchType=simpleSearch&organizationNamee=illuminati
and even more simple ones like:
https://www.illuminatiofficial.org/join-the-illuminati-members/
WWW.ILLUMINATI.AM
Or:
https://www.facebook.com/samuelnnanna.okonkwo
https://www.facebook.com/miguelangel.nogaleslorente (LinkedIn)
http://esango.un.org/civilsociety/simpleSearch.do?method=search&searchTypeRedef=simpleSearch&sessionCheck=false&searchType=simpleSearch&organizationNamee=illuminati
and even more simple ones like:
https://www.illuminatiofficial.org/join-the-illuminati-members/
WWW.ILLUMINATI.AM
Or:
https://www.facebook.com/samuelnnanna.okonkwo
https://www.facebook.com/miguelangel.nogaleslorente (LinkedIn)
http://esango.un.org/civilsociety/simpleSearch.do?method=search&searchTypeRedef=simpleSearch&sessionCheck=false&searchType=simpleSearch&organizationNamee=illuminati
21 February 2016 00:41
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's live video.
Se Lets see,
21 February 2016 00:33
Margus Meigo commented on Sina Oled Äge's post.
Mitte eestis muidugi
20 February 2016 17:44
Margus Meigo commented on Sina Oled Äge's post.
Nu jah, relgiooni seadus keelas selle ära juba aegade algusest saati, eks nüüd prantslased saavad revolutsiooni teha jälle.
Ise oma sõpradega selle olukorra selliseks teinud varem...
Ise oma sõpradega selle olukorra selliseks teinud varem...
20 February 2016 17:41
Margus Meigo commented on Sina Oled Äge's post.
Finally Germans also, promising.
Estonians know that way more then 5-7000 years ago..
Estonians know that way more then 5-7000 years ago..
20 February 2016 17:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Oled jah : )
Sina Oled Äge
Sina Oled Äge
20 February 2016 17:35
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
100% tõsi
Muidugi, meil Eestis on nii.. eks sa räägi seda filipiinidel kui majad lendavad ja meri üle pea on
Muidugi, meil Eestis on nii.. eks sa räägi seda filipiinidel kui majad lendavad ja meri üle pea on
20 February 2016 16:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
iga ühe elus ja perevõrgus, elu jooksul, kamba peale, on ikka suht vähe sündisi, surmasi ja pulmasi, et peaks omakeskis hakkama saama, alati on saadud
ja nüüd järsku suurem osa inimkonnas nagu saamatud pooletoobised kui positiivselt väljendada, et ei saada ei sünni ega surmaga hakkama, ja abielu ka hoida ei mõisteta
ja nüüd järsku suurem osa inimkonnas nagu saamatud pooletoobised kui positiivselt väljendada, et ei saada ei sünni ega surmaga hakkama, ja abielu ka hoida ei mõisteta
20 February 2016 16:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sh systemaatiline tuhastamine
20 February 2016 16:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja ühis mahamatmise kalmistud, see on ka mu arust mingisugune mitte päris terve tegevus
20 February 2016 16:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ku ivare msuurt hulka probleemi tegid valitud grupid tulnuka moodi valitsejad .. siis nüüd rahva mass ise see, kes endale probleeme rohkem teeb kui keegi kunagi teha jõudis, kui mass likvideerimised kaasa arvata
20 February 2016 16:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid jah... energeetiliselt on ikka suht jube..
nüüd need majad ikka inimlikumaks muutunud, kuid endiselt, ei anna KUIDAGI võrrelda sellega mida vaja , mida laps esimesena tundma ja nägema peaks... ja eks see kindel plaan, miks nii tehtud on
nüüd need majad ikka inimlikumaks muutunud, kuid endiselt, ei anna KUIDAGI võrrelda sellega mida vaja , mida laps esimesena tundma ja nägema peaks... ja eks see kindel plaan, miks nii tehtud on
20 February 2016 16:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lisaks igasugune maaga ühendused kadunud kuna habe ja juuksed maha pügatud järjekindlalt
20 February 2016 16:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mystilises mõttes, ei hakka üldse rääkimagi kui puudulikuna me inimesed üles kasvame kui sünnime kiviseinte vahele, veel võõraste seinte, valu ja hirmu ja kes teab veel mis energiate, lisaks neile asjadele millest selle dimensiooni inimestele öelda ei saa,miks need farmi moodi mass sünnituse majad tehti... see suht haiglane, kui inimesed sellest kunagi aru saama hakkavad, et kui hailane OMA LAST on käia kuskil sellises kohas poetamas.. miks küll oma naised sinna suunasime, ja surusime... naised ju armastusest teevad mida mehed soovivad, lähevad kaasa... aga nende õnnetuseks on meeste kõrvadevahe suurel osal ammu hijackitud
20 February 2016 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sellist asja ei tasu üldse hakta mõtlema, et munadesse lööki peaks saama kuidagigi võrrelda ja väärtustada. Üks on esiteks üli harva ühiskonnas juhtuv ja lühiajaline, mitte vabatahtlik ja teine on vabatahtlik, pikaajaline ja 100% vajalik.
See teooria munade osas mõeldi miskite robotite poolt kunagi välja et naisi alavääristada, mei leestlastel ei ole sobilik nii lorusi ideesi edasi jagada, meil kodumaised lollusi niigi palju mille puhastamisega vaja tegeleda,
pole vaja sisse importida võõraid ajuväärastusi
See teooria munade osas mõeldi miskite robotite poolt kunagi välja et naisi alavääristada, mei leestlastel ei ole sobilik nii lorusi ideesi edasi jagada, meil kodumaised lollusi niigi palju mille puhastamisega vaja tegeleda,
pole vaja sisse importida võõraid ajuväärastusi
20 February 2016 16:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Pigem vastupidi, et suur hulk mõtetuid elusi ja elamata jäänud elusi on tulnud läbi süsteemi sünnituse, kus laps sünni eos juba ära rikutakse.
20 February 2016 16:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kommentaarid olid siis Lauri Vahtrelt
küsimused Markus Järvilt ...
Muidugi senikaua kui lips kaelas lavale ronitakse.. ei ole vägapalju loota .:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvO7s4LT83I
küsimused Markus Järvilt ...
Muidugi senikaua kui lips kaelas lavale ronitakse.. ei ole vägapalju loota .:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvO7s4LT83I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvO7s4LT83I
20 February 2016 13:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"eesti riigile on kaasa aidanud väga paljud, kes seda riik iei tahtnud"
"Nii on ka baltisakslased meid pikalt põlanud ja ....
... aga sakslased on teada-tuntud korraldajad, seltside asutajad, mida siis jäljendades saavutati vägevaid tulemusi
"Nii on ka baltisakslased meid pikalt põlanud ja ....
... aga sakslased on teada-tuntud korraldajad, seltside asutajad, mida siis jäljendades saavutati vägevaid tulemusi
20 February 2016 13:50
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
ja kui pool sobust, peent lund tuulega ringi liikuvat ilma ilusaks pead siis minejaluta ise, endal vabaaeg nüüd,
erinevalt minust..
erinevalt minust..
20 February 2016 13:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Saate lõpp nagunii, vabadussõja märked jäid nüüd üle kopeerimatta.
20 February 2016 13:47
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
miks?
20 February 2016 13:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"eestlaseks ei sünnita, vaid eestlaseks saadakse"
"seega Eestlane saab olla ka mustanahaline"
// (Well, Ashilevid siinkohal hea näide, peaks suht Eestlased olema (muidugi, tema tegelikult sündinud ja vanem Eestlane... kuid ikkagi, paljud kaugelt ju ei teaks.. ja astuksid endaga päris kõvasti ämbrisse ) :)
"seega Eestlane saab olla ka mustanahaline"
// (Well, Ashilevid siinkohal hea näide, peaks suht Eestlased olema (muidugi, tema tegelikult sündinud ja vanem Eestlane... kuid ikkagi, paljud kaugelt ju ei teaks.. ja astuksid endaga päris kõvasti ämbrisse ) :)
20 February 2016 13:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"siin pole küsimusselles, et kes on puhas eestlane, kas see kelle mõlemad vanemad on eestlased..."
"ikka oluline mis keskonnas kasvad..."
(mis väärtusi ema jagada oskab)
"ikka oluline mis keskonnas kasvad..."
(mis väärtusi ema jagada oskab)
20 February 2016 13:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"kui vene ja poolakas teeb lapse, siis nende laps ei tule ukrainlane"
et nagu eugeenika osas, rahvuse osas... et tuleb aru saada, et rahavas on nagu suur arvutivõrk..
et nagu eugeenika osas, rahvuse osas... et tuleb aru saada, et rahavas on nagu suur arvutivõrk..
20 February 2016 13:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// Kaplinski osas endal oli ka ilmselge arusaamammu mul, et tegu päris punasega. Kuidas selles keegi lugenud Eestlastest siiani veel kahelda, natukenegi on saanud?? Ei oska punase käekirjast aru saada v
Akadeemitat pole lugenud siis v
ma saan aru, et mina pole, ... aga Sina ?
selle analüüsiks läks ainult 10 minutit peale tema esimese asja kätte võtmist, (nii kaua läks, sest proovisin uskuda, et tegu on ikka positiivselt räägitud inimesest. .ja ehk ta ikka mõtleb seda ila mida ajab minig ridade vahel kuidagi... aga ei... lips on ikka lips..(ja tema on nii lips, et tema ei pea lipsu kandmagi, eliit punane, kellega oleks isegi uvitav vast suhelda... kui ta eestlastega suhtleks))
Akadeemitat pole lugenud siis v
ma saan aru, et mina pole, ... aga Sina ?
selle analüüsiks läks ainult 10 minutit peale tema esimese asja kätte võtmist, (nii kaua läks, sest proovisin uskuda, et tegu on ikka positiivselt räägitud inimesest. .ja ehk ta ikka mõtleb seda ila mida ajab minig ridade vahel kuidagi... aga ei... lips on ikka lips..(ja tema on nii lips, et tema ei pea lipsu kandmagi, eliit punane, kellega oleks isegi uvitav vast suhelda... kui ta eestlastega suhtleks))
20 February 2016 13:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mida iseseisvus sulle kõige laiemalt tähendab? "kõige laiemalt, see, et siin on midagi mõistusele ja midagi südamele"
20 February 2016 13:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Järgnev pooltund: Iseseisvuse Vaimsetest Eeldustest
20 February 2016 13:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"nöiteks need kes pakuvad välja, et homo seks on sama normaalne kui naise ja mehe vaheline .... "
Kui selliseid arulagedusi välja promotakse.. siis me võime varsti käituma hakata nagu ISIS keda me siia sisse impordime praegu..
Kui selliseid arulagedusi välja promotakse.. siis me võime varsti käituma hakata nagu ISIS keda me siia sisse impordime praegu..
20 February 2016 13:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"neile, kes karjuvad: Surm mittetolerantidele"
20 February 2016 13:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"kaua sa piitsutad seda krokodilli ja kisad ta peale, et söö õuna, see on tervislik.... nu see kroko nukralt vaatab seda õuna.. näksib natuke vast...kuid korra see kroko vihastub ja näitab hambaid "
20 February 2016 13:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"praegu vihastame siin vist hulga feministe välja...kes ajab oma joru Tõelisest Mehest ja Naiselikest Naisest "
20 February 2016 13:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"erinevused on ja väärtused on... "
"vähemalt senikaua kuni naised nõustuvad olema emad.. aga nu kui nad ei nõustu,siis saab nagunii kultuur ja inimkond otsa, selle üle pole siin vaja pikalt arutada "
"vähemalt senikaua kuni naised nõustuvad olema emad.. aga nu kui nad ei nõustu,siis saab nagunii kultuur ja inimkond otsa, selle üle pole siin vaja pikalt arutada "
20 February 2016 13:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"mul on sügav arusaam, et soouuringutel on etteantud vastused mis tulema peab ...
"et näidata, et mehel ja naisel pole muud mahet kui suguorganid"
"et näidata, et mehel ja naisel pole muud mahet kui suguorganid"
20 February 2016 13:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// näe.. siin...
usuni jõuab tark mees, siis satub hätta :(
Ei oska edasi mõelda, kust ja miks need nähtused tulevad.. mis ainult pool sajandit tagasi?
Ilma kahtluseta esimene samm on 2500 aastat ju täpselt samade asjade surumise osas mispraegu toimub
usuni jõuab tark mees, siis satub hätta :(
Ei oska edasi mõelda, kust ja miks need nähtused tulevad.. mis ainult pool sajandit tagasi?
Ilma kahtluseta esimene samm on 2500 aastat ju täpselt samade asjade surumise osas mispraegu toimub
20 February 2016 13:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
õnneks oleme soo revolutsioonist maas, vaidleme veel kooseluseaduse üle
"kuidas sa nimetaksid revolutsioonilisi, vasakliberaalseid maailmavaateid ühiskonnas? "
"kuidas sa nimetaksid revolutsioonilisi, vasakliberaalseid maailmavaateid ühiskonnas? "
20 February 2016 13:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
akadeemiline keskond on tugevalt vasakliberaalsete vaadetega
(ei hakka UCL ist rääkimagi)
(ei hakka UCL ist rääkimagi)
20 February 2016 13:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
rahva kallal näägutajad, on need kes on tegeliku probleemi põhjustajad
(Umm.. tuleb mõni telekanal ehk meelde?)
(Umm.. tuleb mõni telekanal ehk meelde?)
20 February 2016 13:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"..see on nagu kahte marutõbist koera lahutama.. kes siis korraga lõrisedes sulle kallale kargavad"
20 February 2016 13:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"... ja selle arusaama vahel on filter, avalikarvamuse näol, ajakirjanduse, meedia näol...
kellel on omad arvamused
kes mängib inimeste primitiivsema poole peal .. "
kellel on omad arvamused
kes mängib inimeste primitiivsema poole peal .. "
20 February 2016 13:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"ja sellegi poolest, surutakse inimesele peale hoiakuid mis on talle loomuvastaseid ja taunitakse neid mis talle on loomupärased"
20 February 2016 13:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"mida need teadusarud siin teinud ongi sadaknd aastat? Peaksid olema nad ju uurinud ...
... kuid just ka kollektiivselt, on seda kõike ju uuritud, kuid tulemust ei ole nagu üldse "
... kuid just ka kollektiivselt, on seda kõike ju uuritud, kuid tulemust ei ole nagu üldse "
20 February 2016 13:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(mitte, et rassism halb oleks, rassismi puudus on pigem nagu diagnoos või arenguarusaama puudus)
20 February 2016 13:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"need inimesed kelle mõtlemine on sügavaltmustvalge, on eismesed kes teisi selles süüdistama hakkavad, nõuavad sallivust jms
mis nende sõnade esitluses on sõnade mulin, sest nad ise ei teagi nende sõnade tähendust mida nad suust välja ajavad"
mis nende sõnade esitluses on sõnade mulin, sest nad ise ei teagi nende sõnade tähendust mida nad suust välja ajavad"
20 February 2016 13:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"kui ma ütlenb, et inimliigid on olemas... mille olemasolu on mõtetu eitada... ja sellepeale tembeldatakse mind rassistiks.."
20 February 2016 13:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Kus ühed mõtlevad mustvalgelt.. ja teised mõtlevad mustvalgelt.. ainult üks pool süüdistab teist millegi pärast mustvalges mõtlemises "
20 February 2016 13:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Kas sa armastad neegrit või vihkad neegrit?
Kui astrid linken paneb sama dilemma Karlsoni suhu... kas jätad hommikuse konjaki... siis on see nali
aga kui sul pannakse nuga kõrile... nu tegelikult sa ei taha olla ju kummalgil poolel..."
Kui astrid linken paneb sama dilemma Karlsoni suhu... kas jätad hommikuse konjaki... siis on see nali
aga kui sul pannakse nuga kõrile... nu tegelikult sa ei taha olla ju kummalgil poolel..."
20 February 2016 13:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Et nagu põlve ja õla
ning käed järgmisel pildil.
ning käed järgmisel pildil.
20 February 2016 11:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
20 February 2016 11:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
, many now ask.. "what about if that simulator is used on woman.."
Well,... no simulator is a real thing, and i am not sure, i would dare to try it jet, the full one with back and everything (as no point to try the half-half one and fool yourself that You accomplished something )
Also there should be different tests for war soldiers, for meditative people, for vegetarians and for meat eaters... people on drugs and on not.. etc .
But most of all.. comparing the results from various women .. even thought it would be hurtful and harmful for women to try that perhaps form another kind of reasons .. but man it makes more manner, probably
Well,... no simulator is a real thing, and i am not sure, i would dare to try it jet, the full one with back and everything (as no point to try the half-half one and fool yourself that You accomplished something )
Also there should be different tests for war soldiers, for meditative people, for vegetarians and for meat eaters... people on drugs and on not.. etc .
But most of all.. comparing the results from various women .. even thought it would be hurtful and harmful for women to try that perhaps form another kind of reasons .. but man it makes more manner, probably
20 February 2016 11:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://youtu.be/nqRjNeSetrk?t=175
https://youtu.be/nqRjNeSetrk?t=175
20 February 2016 11:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://youtu.be/ppzV6hoPkIc?t=115
https://youtu.be/ppzV6hoPkIc?t=115
20 February 2016 11:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://youtu.be/Gw5ayibQ-E0?t=153
https://youtu.be/Gw5ayibQ-E0?t=153
20 February 2016 11:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
20 February 2016 11:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"I hope this was at least Level7.... No, it was 4??! .. :,( " (man start to cry on that thought).
Also noteworthy how worried time by time women on left is, looking the machine and doctor with a "hey.. that looks dangerous to him! " almost ready to rescue instinctively (writing over a reason, that it is just electrical simulation of nerves )
Also noteworthy how worried time by time women on left is, looking the machine and doctor with a "hey.. that looks dangerous to him! " almost ready to rescue instinctively (writing over a reason, that it is just electrical simulation of nerves )
20 February 2016 11:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And to be correct.. the electronic frontier has been taking a bit of red clothes on maybe... as the continuous vodoo like spell casting to access many weaker ones to influence the accessible key people enough in a mind.. has been fruitful
is it?
Do you hear whispers in a mind..
that direct you do do less then most nice, openhearted and friendly things..
is it?
Do you hear whispers in a mind..
that direct you do do less then most nice, openhearted and friendly things..
20 February 2016 10:37
Margus Meigo commented on Klaus Busch's photo.
Humble aristocratic king like real Man : )
19 February 2016 16:58
Margus Meigo commented on Alla Kiseleva's photo.
imeilus!
19 February 2016 16:29
Margus Meigo commented on Riho Kallas's post.
kohalikud ei pidavat julgema öösel väljaski liikuda'
19 February 2016 16:03
Margus Meigo commented on Riho Kallas's post.
Kuiise targad olema saame hakkama.. aga pole ju.. Valga jms pidi kubisema välis siseränanud kriminaalidest
19 February 2016 16:02
Margus Meigo commented on Wendy Wong's photo.
You know, "Mood" in Estonian, means "Fashion"
19 February 2016 15:47
Margus Meigo commented on Em Rusciano's photo.
Only women are vaccinated, and only the women between the ages of 15 and 45. (In Nicaragua the age range was 12-49.) But aren’t men at least as likely as young women to come into contact with tetanus? And what of the children? Why are they excluded?
The vaccination protocols call for multiple injections — three within three months and a total of five altogether. But, since tetanus vaccinations provide protection for ten years or more, why are multiple inoculations called for?
WHO has been actively involved for more than 20 years in the development of an anti-fertility vaccine utilizing hCG tied to tetanus toxoid as a carrier — the exact same coupling as has been found in the Mexican-Philippine-Nicaragua vaccines
The WHO began its “Special Programme” in human reproduction in 1972, and by 1993 had spent more than $356 million on “reproductive health” research.(7) It is this “Programme” which has pioneered the development of the abortifacient vaccine. Over $90 million of this Programme’s funds were contributed by Sweden; Great Britain donated more than $52 million, while Norway, Denmark and Germany kicked in for $41 million , $27 million, and $12 million, respectively. The U.S., thanks to the cut-off of such funding during the Reagan-Bush administrations, has contributed “only” $5.7 million, including a new payment in 1993 by the Clinton administration of $2.5 million. Other major contributors to the WHO Programme include UNFPA, $61 million; the World Bank, $15.5 million; the Rockefeller Foundation, $2.5 million; the Ford Foundation, over $1 million; and the IDRC (International Research and Development Centre of Canada), $716.5 thousand.
Funny, I got a letter just today from the State Health Department telling me that they didn’t have some of my children’s vaccine records on “lifetime file” and I really needed to update those
Of course the file would be empty.
http://www.generationcedar.com/main/2009/07/population-control-through-tetanus-vaccine.html
The vaccination protocols call for multiple injections — three within three months and a total of five altogether. But, since tetanus vaccinations provide protection for ten years or more, why are multiple inoculations called for?
WHO has been actively involved for more than 20 years in the development of an anti-fertility vaccine utilizing hCG tied to tetanus toxoid as a carrier — the exact same coupling as has been found in the Mexican-Philippine-Nicaragua vaccines
The WHO began its “Special Programme” in human reproduction in 1972, and by 1993 had spent more than $356 million on “reproductive health” research.(7) It is this “Programme” which has pioneered the development of the abortifacient vaccine. Over $90 million of this Programme’s funds were contributed by Sweden; Great Britain donated more than $52 million, while Norway, Denmark and Germany kicked in for $41 million , $27 million, and $12 million, respectively. The U.S., thanks to the cut-off of such funding during the Reagan-Bush administrations, has contributed “only” $5.7 million, including a new payment in 1993 by the Clinton administration of $2.5 million. Other major contributors to the WHO Programme include UNFPA, $61 million; the World Bank, $15.5 million; the Rockefeller Foundation, $2.5 million; the Ford Foundation, over $1 million; and the IDRC (International Research and Development Centre of Canada), $716.5 thousand.
Funny, I got a letter just today from the State Health Department telling me that they didn’t have some of my children’s vaccine records on “lifetime file” and I really needed to update those

http://www.generationcedar.com/main/2009/07/population-control-through-tetanus-vaccine.html
http://www.generationcedar.com/main/2009/07/population-control-through-tetanus-vaccine.html
19 February 2016 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on Em Rusciano's photo.
At least in Kenya, Catholic doctors are acting and taking a stand against what they see as an involuntary mass sterilization campaign designed to control the population of Africans.
https://youtu.be/-pJaDpq-DUI
https://youtu.be/-pJaDpq-DUI
https://youtu.be/-pJaDpq-DUI
19 February 2016 15:20
Margus Meigo commented on Em Rusciano's photo.
A very similar mass vaccination with the live oral polio vaccine occurred among Syrian refugees in 2013, when 1.7 million doses of polio vaccine were purchased by UNICEF, in spite of the fact that no cases of polio had been seen since 1999. After the mass vaccination program started, cases of polio began to reappear in Syria
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/syrian-refugees-create-huge-new-market-for-out-dated-live-polio-vaccine-over-20-million-children-to-be-vaccinated/
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/syrian-refugees-create-huge-new-market-for-out-dated-live-polio-vaccine-over-20-million-children-to-be-vaccinated/
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/syrian-refugees-create-huge-new-market-for-out-dated-live-polio-vaccine-over-20-million-children-to-be-vaccinated/
19 February 2016 15:20
Margus Meigo commented on Em Rusciano's photo.
UNICEF began a similar mass vaccination program with 500,000 doses of live oral polio vaccine in the Philippines after a Super Typhoon devastated Tacolban and surrounding areas. This was in spite of the fact there were no reported cases of polio in the Philippines since 1993, and people who have had the live polio vaccine can “shed” the virus into sewage systems, thereby causing the actual disease it is supposed to be preventing. (See: No Polio in the Philippines Since 1993, But Mass Polio Vaccination Program Targeted for 500,000 Typhoon Victims Under Age 5.)
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/no-polio-in-the-philippines-since-1993-but-mass-polio-vaccination-program-started-among-500000-typhoon-victims/
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/no-polio-in-the-philippines-since-1993-but-mass-polio-vaccination-program-started-among-500000-typhoon-victims/
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/no-polio-in-the-philippines-since-1993-but-mass-polio-vaccination-program-started-among-500000-typhoon-victims/
19 February 2016 15:20
Margus Meigo commented on Em Rusciano's photo.
"six different samples of the tetanus vaccine from various locations around Kenya sent to an independent laboratory in South Africa for testing.
The results confirmed their worst fears: all six samples tested positive for the HCG antigen. The HCG antigen is used in anti-fertility vaccines, but was found present in tetanus vaccines targeted to young girls and women of childbearing age."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/mass-sterilization-kenyan-doctors-find-anti-fertility-agent-in-un-tetanus-vaccine/5431
The results confirmed their worst fears: all six samples tested positive for the HCG antigen. The HCG antigen is used in anti-fertility vaccines, but was found present in tetanus vaccines targeted to young girls and women of childbearing age."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/mass-sterilization-kenyan-doctors-find-anti-fertility-agent-in-un-tetanus-vaccine/5431
http://www.globalresearch.ca/mass-sterilization-kenyan-doctors-find-anti-fertility-agent-in-un-tetanus-vaccine/5431
19 February 2016 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on Em Rusciano's photo.
hCG and Anti-hCG Antibodies
"Only women are vaccinated, and only the women between the ages of 15 and 45. (In Nicaragua the age range was 12-49.) But aren't men at least as likely as young women to come into contact with tetanus? And what of the children? Why are they excluded?"
"During the early 1990s, the World Health Organization (WHO) had been overseeing massive vaccination campaigns against tetanus in a number of countries, among them Nicaragua, Mexico, and the Philippines. In October 1994, HLI received a communication from its Mexican affiliate, the Comite' Pro Vida de Mexico, regarding that country's anti-tetanus campaign. Suspicious of the campaign protocols, the Comite' obtained several vials of the vaccine and had them analyzed by chemists. Some of the vials were found to contain human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG), a naturally occurring hormone essential for maintaining a pregnancy."
http://thinktwice.com/birthcon.htm
"Only women are vaccinated, and only the women between the ages of 15 and 45. (In Nicaragua the age range was 12-49.) But aren't men at least as likely as young women to come into contact with tetanus? And what of the children? Why are they excluded?"
"During the early 1990s, the World Health Organization (WHO) had been overseeing massive vaccination campaigns against tetanus in a number of countries, among them Nicaragua, Mexico, and the Philippines. In October 1994, HLI received a communication from its Mexican affiliate, the Comite' Pro Vida de Mexico, regarding that country's anti-tetanus campaign. Suspicious of the campaign protocols, the Comite' obtained several vials of the vaccine and had them analyzed by chemists. Some of the vials were found to contain human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG), a naturally occurring hormone essential for maintaining a pregnancy."
http://thinktwice.com/birthcon.htm
http://thinktwice.com/birthcon.htm
19 February 2016 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on Em Rusciano's photo.
"“There is a new batch of vaccine that have come from WHO through the Ministry; it is not coming through the normal channels, so it is not the ordinary vaccine that we have been using. That is the big proof that there, the third one is that we have actually tested this vaccine and found it to contain hCG. The batch that was used in March.”" https://vactruth.com/2014/12/10/tetanus-vaccines-cause-infertility/
https://vactruth.com/2014/12/10/tetanus-vaccines-cause-infertility/
19 February 2016 15:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Polio factination (great lenght!): http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean5.html
http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean5.html
19 February 2016 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on Em Rusciano's photo.
Suppressed Facts About Vaccination and much more, large topics, Poisened Needle (LENGHTY, LOOK THE TOPIC LIST, INDEX, SCROLL DOWN!) 1957 !
http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html
http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html
http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html
19 February 2016 15:18
Margus Meigo commented on Em Rusciano's photo.
20 some speakers, name of fiew who risked their license to tell truth in borders allowed:
Russell Blaylock, MD, CCN / board certified neurosurgeon 25 years / develop the transcallosal removal of intraventricular tumors /
Dr. Shiv Chopra's / veterinary medicine and MSc and PhD in Microbiology
Dr. Richard Deth / Professor of Pharmacology / Pharmaceutical Sciences faculty since 1976 /
Dr. John Barthelow Classen / etiology of autoimmune diseases
http://www.vaccinesafetyconference.com/speakers.html
Russell Blaylock, MD, CCN / board certified neurosurgeon 25 years / develop the transcallosal removal of intraventricular tumors /
Dr. Shiv Chopra's / veterinary medicine and MSc and PhD in Microbiology
Dr. Richard Deth / Professor of Pharmacology / Pharmaceutical Sciences faculty since 1976 /
Dr. John Barthelow Classen / etiology of autoimmune diseases
http://www.vaccinesafetyconference.com/speakers.html
http://www.vaccinesafetyconference.com/speakers.html
19 February 2016 15:18
Margus Meigo commented on Em Rusciano's photo.
The Truth Behind Vaccinations
https://youtu.be/PQsVTlMsQrI
A collection of many documentaries such as:
Shots in the Dark- Silence on Vaccines.
The Greater Good.
Vaccination -The Hidden Truth.
Vaccine and Overdose babies.
and... many many more.
https://youtu.be/PQsVTlMsQrI
A collection of many documentaries such as:
Shots in the Dark- Silence on Vaccines.
The Greater Good.
Vaccination -The Hidden Truth.
Vaccine and Overdose babies.
and... many many more.
https://youtu.be/PQsVTlMsQrI
19 February 2016 15:18
Margus Meigo commented on Em Rusciano's photo.
Well Known Neurosurgeon, Dr. Russell Blaylock Exposes Vaccines, Autism and Medical Fraud
https://youtu.be/-NzvsZ8Ps_U
https://youtu.be/-NzvsZ8Ps_U
https://youtu.be/-NzvsZ8Ps_U
19 February 2016 15:18
Margus Meigo commented on Em Rusciano's photo.
Dr. Andrew Wakefield breaks silence on #CDCWhistleblower:
https://youtu.be/oPTxDzsVvyY
https://youtu.be/oPTxDzsVvyY
https://youtu.be/oPTxDzsVvyY
19 February 2016 15:18
Margus Meigo commented on Em Rusciano's photo.
Silent Epidemic: The Untold Story of Vaccines by Gary Null
https://youtu.be/K1m3TjokVU4
https://youtu.be/K1m3TjokVU4
https://youtu.be/K1m3TjokVU4
19 February 2016 15:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/
http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/
19 February 2016 15:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
To understand vaccine risks better, Dr Blaylock recommends Neil Millers's "Vaccine Safety Manual". Also consult the NVIC Disease & Vaccines database.
http://www.nvic.org/Vaccines-and-Diseases.aspx
http://www.nvic.org/Vaccines-and-Diseases.aspx
http://www.nvic.org/Vaccines-and-Diseases.aspx
19 February 2016 15:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And the versions of it
http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/different-types-vaccines
http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/different-types-vaccines
http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/different-types-vaccines
19 February 2016 15:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I do respect the list here as well
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Vaccine-preventable_diseases
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Vaccine-preventable_diseases
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Vaccine-preventable_diseases
19 February 2016 15:17
Margus Meigo commented on Em Rusciano's photo.
So first to look the protective side...
50 years..only but anyway:
"We also know there is not a plausible biologic reason to believe vaccines would cause any serious long-term effects. Based on more than 50 years of experience with vaccines, we can say that the likelihood that a vaccine will cause unanticipated long-term problems is extremely low."
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/parents-guide/parents-guide-part4.html
"Mercury: Babies are exposed to mercury in milk, including breast milk.
Seafood also contains mercury.
Formaldehyde: Formaldehyde is in automobile exhaust; in household products and furnishings such as carpets, upholstery, cosmetics, paint, and felt-tip markers; and in health products such as antihistamines, cough drops, and mouthwash.
Aluminum: The average person takes in an estimated 30 to 50 mg of aluminum every day, mainly from foods, drinking water, and medicines"
50 years..only but anyway:
"We also know there is not a plausible biologic reason to believe vaccines would cause any serious long-term effects. Based on more than 50 years of experience with vaccines, we can say that the likelihood that a vaccine will cause unanticipated long-term problems is extremely low."
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/parents-guide/parents-guide-part4.html
"Mercury: Babies are exposed to mercury in milk, including breast milk.
Seafood also contains mercury.
Formaldehyde: Formaldehyde is in automobile exhaust; in household products and furnishings such as carpets, upholstery, cosmetics, paint, and felt-tip markers; and in health products such as antihistamines, cough drops, and mouthwash.
Aluminum: The average person takes in an estimated 30 to 50 mg of aluminum every day, mainly from foods, drinking water, and medicines"
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/parents-guide/parents-guide-part4.html
19 February 2016 15:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Immunocontraception
"Of course, the reason the vaccination campaign is targeted at women of reproductive age is because its primary purpose is to prevent neonatal tetanus. Targeting women of reproductive age leads to immunity in these women and the prevention of tetanus in their newborn babies. As the WHO stated in its response, these campaigns are very much targeted to districts where the highest incidence of neonatal tetanus has been observed"
"Of course, the reason the vaccination campaign is targeted at women of reproductive age is because its primary purpose is to prevent neonatal tetanus. Targeting women of reproductive age leads to immunity in these women and the prevention of tetanus in their newborn babies. As the WHO stated in its response, these campaigns are very much targeted to districts where the highest incidence of neonatal tetanus has been observed"
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Immunocontraception
19 February 2016 15:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Ofcourse it is good also to read other side also, after taking fakts in to account, for sure many facts will find solution (but that will not chanage the outcome and reasons behind the programs)
Also it helps to see the methods of excjuses and arguments that is used to protect or expose the lies. https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/fear-mongering-about-vaccines-as-racist-population-control-in-kenya/
"It is a technique that falls under the category of immunocontraception. It takes little more than a quick trip to Wikipedia (among other sources) to learn that as far back as the 1970s, hCG was conjugated to tetanus toxoid in order to make a vaccine against hCG, because hCG itself did not provoke enough of an immune response. It’s not necessary to know all the details and history. From the 1970s on, there have been clinical trials of such vaccine contraceptives using hCG, and it is possible to prevent pregnancy by this approach, although antibody response against hCG declines with time."
Also it helps to see the methods of excjuses and arguments that is used to protect or expose the lies. https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/fear-mongering-about-vaccines-as-racist-population-control-in-kenya/
"It is a technique that falls under the category of immunocontraception. It takes little more than a quick trip to Wikipedia (among other sources) to learn that as far back as the 1970s, hCG was conjugated to tetanus toxoid in order to make a vaccine against hCG, because hCG itself did not provoke enough of an immune response. It’s not necessary to know all the details and history. From the 1970s on, there have been clinical trials of such vaccine contraceptives using hCG, and it is possible to prevent pregnancy by this approach, although antibody response against hCG declines with time."
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/fear-mongering-about-vaccines-as-racist-population-control-in-kenya/
19 February 2016 15:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Only women are vaccinated, and only the women between the ages of 15 and 45. (In Nicaragua the age range was 12-49.) But aren’t men at least as likely as young women to come into contact with tetanus? And what of the children? Why are they excluded?
The vaccination protocols call for multiple injections — three within three months and a total of five altogether. But, since tetanus vaccinations provide protection for ten years or more, why are multiple inoculations called for?
WHO has been actively involved for more than 20 years in the development of an anti-fertility vaccine utilizing hCG tied to tetanus toxoid as a carrier — the exact same coupling as has been found in the Mexican-Philippine-Nicaragua vaccines
The WHO began its “Special Programme” in human reproduction in 1972, and by 1993 had spent more than $356 million on “reproductive health” research.(7) It is this “Programme” which has pioneered the development of the abortifacient vaccine. Over $90 million of this Programme’s funds were contributed by Sweden; Great Britain donated more than $52 million, while Norway, Denmark and Germany kicked in for $41 million , $27 million, and $12 million, respectively. The U.S., thanks to the cut-off of such funding during the Reagan-Bush administrations, has contributed “only” $5.7 million, including a new payment in 1993 by the Clinton administration of $2.5 million. Other major contributors to the WHO Programme include UNFPA, $61 million; the World Bank, $15.5 million; the Rockefeller Foundation, $2.5 million; the Ford Foundation, over $1 million; and the IDRC (International Research and Development Centre of Canada), $716.5 thousand.
Funny, I got a letter just today from the State Health Department telling me that they didn’t have some of my children’s vaccine records on “lifetime file” and I really needed to update those
Of course the file would be empty.
http://www.generationcedar.com/main/2009/07/population-control-through-tetanus-vaccine.html
The vaccination protocols call for multiple injections — three within three months and a total of five altogether. But, since tetanus vaccinations provide protection for ten years or more, why are multiple inoculations called for?
WHO has been actively involved for more than 20 years in the development of an anti-fertility vaccine utilizing hCG tied to tetanus toxoid as a carrier — the exact same coupling as has been found in the Mexican-Philippine-Nicaragua vaccines
The WHO began its “Special Programme” in human reproduction in 1972, and by 1993 had spent more than $356 million on “reproductive health” research.(7) It is this “Programme” which has pioneered the development of the abortifacient vaccine. Over $90 million of this Programme’s funds were contributed by Sweden; Great Britain donated more than $52 million, while Norway, Denmark and Germany kicked in for $41 million , $27 million, and $12 million, respectively. The U.S., thanks to the cut-off of such funding during the Reagan-Bush administrations, has contributed “only” $5.7 million, including a new payment in 1993 by the Clinton administration of $2.5 million. Other major contributors to the WHO Programme include UNFPA, $61 million; the World Bank, $15.5 million; the Rockefeller Foundation, $2.5 million; the Ford Foundation, over $1 million; and the IDRC (International Research and Development Centre of Canada), $716.5 thousand.
Funny, I got a letter just today from the State Health Department telling me that they didn’t have some of my children’s vaccine records on “lifetime file” and I really needed to update those

http://www.generationcedar.com/main/2009/07/population-control-through-tetanus-vaccine.html
http://www.generationcedar.com/main/2009/07/population-control-through-tetanus-vaccine.html
19 February 2016 15:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I know, Catholics right
19 February 2016 15:13
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
At least in Kenya, Catholic doctors are acting and taking a stand against what they see as an involuntary mass sterilization campaign designed to control the population of Africans.
https://youtu.be/-pJaDpq-DUI
https://youtu.be/-pJaDpq-DUI
https://youtu.be/-pJaDpq-DUI
19 February 2016 15:13
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
A very similar mass vaccination with the live oral polio vaccine occurred among Syrian refugees in 2013, when 1.7 million doses of polio vaccine were purchased by UNICEF, in spite of the fact that no cases of polio had been seen since 1999. After the mass vaccination program started, cases of polio began to reappear in Syria
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/syrian-refugees-create-huge-new-market-for-out-dated-live-polio-vaccine-over-20-million-children-to-be-vaccinated/
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/syrian-refugees-create-huge-new-market-for-out-dated-live-polio-vaccine-over-20-million-children-to-be-vaccinated/
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/syrian-refugees-create-huge-new-market-for-out-dated-live-polio-vaccine-over-20-million-children-to-be-vaccinated/
19 February 2016 15:13
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
UNICEF began a similar mass vaccination program with 500,000 doses of live oral polio vaccine in the Philippines after a Super Typhoon devastated Tacolban and surrounding areas. This was in spite of the fact there were no reported cases of polio in the Philippines since 1993, and people who have had the live polio vaccine can “shed” the virus into sewage systems, thereby causing the actual disease it is supposed to be preventing. (See: No Polio in the Philippines Since 1993, But Mass Polio Vaccination Program Targeted for 500,000 Typhoon Victims Under Age 5.)
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/no-polio-in-the-philippines-since-1993-but-mass-polio-vaccination-program-started-among-500000-typhoon-victims/
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http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/no-polio-in-the-philippines-since-1993-but-mass-polio-vaccination-program-started-among-500000-typhoon-victims/
'
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/no-polio-in-the-philippines-since-1993-but-mass-polio-vaccination-program-started-among-500000-typhoon-victims/
19 February 2016 15:13
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
"six different samples of the tetanus vaccine from various locations around Kenya sent to an independent laboratory in South Africa for testing.
The results confirmed their worst fears: all six samples tested positive for the HCG antigen. The HCG antigen is used in anti-fertility vaccines, but was found present in tetanus vaccines targeted to young girls and women of childbearing age."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/mass-sterilization-kenyan-doctors-find-anti-fertility-agent-in-un-tetanus-vaccine/5431664
The results confirmed their worst fears: all six samples tested positive for the HCG antigen. The HCG antigen is used in anti-fertility vaccines, but was found present in tetanus vaccines targeted to young girls and women of childbearing age."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/mass-sterilization-kenyan-doctors-find-anti-fertility-agent-in-un-tetanus-vaccine/5431664
http://www.globalresearch.ca/mass-sterilization-kenyan-doctors-find-anti-fertility-agent-in-un-tetanus-vaccine/5431664
19 February 2016 15:12
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
hCG and Anti-hCG Antibodies
"Only women are vaccinated, and only the women between the ages of 15 and 45. (In Nicaragua the age range was 12-49.) But aren't men at least as likely as young women to come into contact with tetanus? And what of the children? Why are they excluded?"
"During the early 1990s, the World Health Organization (WHO) had been overseeing massive vaccination campaigns against tetanus in a number of countries, among them Nicaragua, Mexico, and the Philippines. In October 1994, HLI received a communication from its Mexican affiliate, the Comite' Pro Vida de Mexico, regarding that country's anti-tetanus campaign. Suspicious of the campaign protocols, the Comite' obtained several vials of the vaccine and had them analyzed by chemists. Some of the vials were found to contain human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG), a naturally occurring hormone essential for maintaining a pregnancy."
http://thinktwice.com/birthcon.htm
"Only women are vaccinated, and only the women between the ages of 15 and 45. (In Nicaragua the age range was 12-49.) But aren't men at least as likely as young women to come into contact with tetanus? And what of the children? Why are they excluded?"
"During the early 1990s, the World Health Organization (WHO) had been overseeing massive vaccination campaigns against tetanus in a number of countries, among them Nicaragua, Mexico, and the Philippines. In October 1994, HLI received a communication from its Mexican affiliate, the Comite' Pro Vida de Mexico, regarding that country's anti-tetanus campaign. Suspicious of the campaign protocols, the Comite' obtained several vials of the vaccine and had them analyzed by chemists. Some of the vials were found to contain human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG), a naturally occurring hormone essential for maintaining a pregnancy."
http://thinktwice.com/birthcon.htm
http://thinktwice.com/birthcon.htm
19 February 2016 15:12
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
"“There is a new batch of vaccine that have come from WHO through the Ministry; it is not coming through the normal channels, so it is not the ordinary vaccine that we have been using. That is the big proof that there, the third one is that we have actually tested this vaccine and found it to contain hCG. The batch that was used in March.”" https://vactruth.com/2014/12/10/tetanus-vaccines-cause-infertility/
https://vactruth.com/2014/12/10/tetanus-vaccines-cause-infertility/
19 February 2016 15:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Polio factination (great lenght!): http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean5.html
http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean5.html
19 February 2016 15:12
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Suppressed Facts About Vaccination and much more, large topics, Poisened Needle (LENGHTY, LOOK THE TOPIC LIST, INDEX, SCROLL DOWN!) 1957 !
http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html
http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html
http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html
19 February 2016 15:12
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
20 some speakers, name of fiew who risked their license to tell truth in borders allowed:
Russell Blaylock, MD, CCN / board certified neurosurgeon 25 years / develop the transcallosal removal of intraventricular tumors /
Dr. Shiv Chopra's / veterinary medicine and MSc and PhD in Microbiology
Dr. Richard Deth / Professor of Pharmacology / Pharmaceutical Sciences faculty since 1976 /
Dr. John Barthelow Classen / etiology of autoimmune diseases
http://www.vaccinesafetyconference.com/speakers.html
Russell Blaylock, MD, CCN / board certified neurosurgeon 25 years / develop the transcallosal removal of intraventricular tumors /
Dr. Shiv Chopra's / veterinary medicine and MSc and PhD in Microbiology
Dr. Richard Deth / Professor of Pharmacology / Pharmaceutical Sciences faculty since 1976 /
Dr. John Barthelow Classen / etiology of autoimmune diseases
http://www.vaccinesafetyconference.com/speakers.html
http://www.vaccinesafetyconference.com/speakers.html
19 February 2016 15:11
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
In the middle part.. some good points: The Truth Behind Vaccinations
https://youtu.be/PQsVTlMsQrI
A collection of many documentaries such as:
Shots in the Dark- Silence on Vaccines.
The Greater Good.
Vaccination -The Hidden Truth.
Vaccine and Overdose babies.
and... many many more.
https://youtu.be/PQsVTlMsQrI
A collection of many documentaries such as:
Shots in the Dark- Silence on Vaccines.
The Greater Good.
Vaccination -The Hidden Truth.
Vaccine and Overdose babies.
and... many many more.
https://youtu.be/PQsVTlMsQrI
19 February 2016 15:11
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Well Known Neurosurgeon, Dr. Russell Blaylock Exposes Vaccines, Autism and Medical Fraud
https://youtu.be/-NzvsZ8Ps_U
https://youtu.be/-NzvsZ8Ps_U
https://youtu.be/-NzvsZ8Ps_U
19 February 2016 15:11
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Dr. Andrew Wakefield breaks silence on #CDCWhistleblower:
https://youtu.be/oPTxDzsVvyY
https://youtu.be/oPTxDzsVvyY
https://youtu.be/oPTxDzsVvyY
19 February 2016 15:10
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Silent Epidemic: The Untold Story of Vaccines by Gary Null
https://youtu.be/K1m3TjokVU4
https://youtu.be/K1m3TjokVU4
https://youtu.be/K1m3TjokVU4
19 February 2016 15:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/
http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/
19 February 2016 15:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
To understand vaccine risks better, Dr Blaylock recommends Neil Millers's "Vaccine Safety Manual". Also consult the NVIC Disease & Vaccines database.
http://www.nvic.org/Vaccines-and-Diseases.aspx
http://www.nvic.org/Vaccines-and-Diseases.aspx
http://www.nvic.org/Vaccines-and-Diseases.aspx
19 February 2016 15:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And the versions of it
http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/different-types-vaccines
http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/different-types-vaccines
http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/different-types-vaccines
19 February 2016 15:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I do respect the list here as well
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Vaccine-preventable_diseases
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Vaccine-preventable_diseases
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Vaccine-preventable_diseases
19 February 2016 15:09
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
So first to look the protective side...
50 years..only but anyway:
"We also know there is not a plausible biologic reason to believe vaccines would cause any serious long-term effects. Based on more than 50 years of experience with vaccines, we can say that the likelihood that a vaccine will cause unanticipated long-term problems is extremely low."
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/parents-guide/parents-guide-part4.html
"Mercury: Babies are exposed to mercury in milk, including breast milk.
Seafood also contains mercury.
Formaldehyde: Formaldehyde is in automobile exhaust; in household products and furnishings such as carpets, upholstery, cosmetics, paint, and felt-tip markers; and in health products such as antihistamines, cough drops, and mouthwash.
Aluminum: The average person takes in an estimated 30 to 50 mg of aluminum every day, mainly from foods, drinking water, and medicines"
50 years..only but anyway:
"We also know there is not a plausible biologic reason to believe vaccines would cause any serious long-term effects. Based on more than 50 years of experience with vaccines, we can say that the likelihood that a vaccine will cause unanticipated long-term problems is extremely low."
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/parents-guide/parents-guide-part4.html
"Mercury: Babies are exposed to mercury in milk, including breast milk.
Seafood also contains mercury.
Formaldehyde: Formaldehyde is in automobile exhaust; in household products and furnishings such as carpets, upholstery, cosmetics, paint, and felt-tip markers; and in health products such as antihistamines, cough drops, and mouthwash.
Aluminum: The average person takes in an estimated 30 to 50 mg of aluminum every day, mainly from foods, drinking water, and medicines"
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/parents-guide/parents-guide-part4.html
19 February 2016 15:09
Margus Meigo commented on Em Rusciano's photo.
being a doctor You also know it can be like that.
"Remember the time Your parents.... "
"No, You Do not have parent, Because they got vaccinated"
(in millions, in Philippines, remember the polio sterilization vaccination ? That was and "accident" on 90s that was again repeated in Kenya 10 years ago i have heard and again....)
Arguing as a militant for ALL vaccines is like people in anti-psychedelic religion who are unable to accept new facts as it would change the shallow belief world they depending on
It is not common people who spread stories about terrible effects of future child-childs that come from vaccines, these are proper healthcare professionals, who are NOT afraid anymore to lose their license for opening a mouth about what they see and know
For sure, for "aliens"!" the point is not just kill people, .. it is to change some aspects of DNA, genes.. energy fields that come from combinations, and there is some side effects for getting it done.. it is like working with machete on genes.. but as long it saves the situation, preventing slaves to wake up in time..
even tho done by many PHDs.. doctors it self are still afraid to see and focus on mistakes in these productions instead picking up the words between the lines.. of the facts here and there.. and what it means in together..
"Remember the time Your parents.... "
"No, You Do not have parent, Because they got vaccinated"
(in millions, in Philippines, remember the polio sterilization vaccination ? That was and "accident" on 90s that was again repeated in Kenya 10 years ago i have heard and again....)
Arguing as a militant for ALL vaccines is like people in anti-psychedelic religion who are unable to accept new facts as it would change the shallow belief world they depending on
It is not common people who spread stories about terrible effects of future child-childs that come from vaccines, these are proper healthcare professionals, who are NOT afraid anymore to lose their license for opening a mouth about what they see and know
For sure, for "aliens"!" the point is not just kill people, .. it is to change some aspects of DNA, genes.. energy fields that come from combinations, and there is some side effects for getting it done.. it is like working with machete on genes.. but as long it saves the situation, preventing slaves to wake up in time..
even tho done by many PHDs.. doctors it self are still afraid to see and focus on mistakes in these productions instead picking up the words between the lines.. of the facts here and there.. and what it means in together..
19 February 2016 13:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i think it is crime to be against eugenics
19 February 2016 13:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and i am actually supporter of eugenics, openly
19 February 2016 13:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and in Philippines they made it so openly.. the polio vaccine was used mostly only on women, in sexually productive age.,
Statement later was that the serialization part of vaccine was an accident.. sorry for that!
(genocide, jes?..but who cares .. there is many of them right..)
Statement later was that the serialization part of vaccine was an accident.. sorry for that!
(genocide, jes?..but who cares .. there is many of them right..)
19 February 2016 13:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i eat my porridge then will share some basic links, that even tho done by many MDs.. doctors it self are still afraid to see and focus on mistakes in these productions instead picking up the words between the lines.. of the facts here and there.. and what it means in together..
19 February 2016 13:49
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Steve, being a doctor You also know it can be like that.
"Remember the time Your parents.... "
"No, You Do not have parent, Because they got vaccinated"
(in millions, in Philippines, remember the polio sterilization vaccination ? That was and "accident" on 90s that was again repeated in Kenya 10 years ago i have heard and again....)
Arguing as a militant for ALL vaccines is like people in anti-psychedelic religion who are unable to accept new facts as it would change the shallow belief world they depending on
It is not common people who spread stories about terrible effects of future child-childs that come from vaccines, these are proper healthcare professionals, who are NOT afraid anymore to lose their license for opening a mouth about what they see and know
For sure, for "aliens"!" the point is not just kill people, .. it is to change some aspects of DNA, genes.. energy fields that come from combinations, and there is some side effects for getting it done.. it is like working with machete on genes.. but as long it saves the situation, preventing slaves to wake up in time..
"Remember the time Your parents.... "
"No, You Do not have parent, Because they got vaccinated"
(in millions, in Philippines, remember the polio sterilization vaccination ? That was and "accident" on 90s that was again repeated in Kenya 10 years ago i have heard and again....)
Arguing as a militant for ALL vaccines is like people in anti-psychedelic religion who are unable to accept new facts as it would change the shallow belief world they depending on
It is not common people who spread stories about terrible effects of future child-childs that come from vaccines, these are proper healthcare professionals, who are NOT afraid anymore to lose their license for opening a mouth about what they see and know
For sure, for "aliens"!" the point is not just kill people, .. it is to change some aspects of DNA, genes.. energy fields that come from combinations, and there is some side effects for getting it done.. it is like working with machete on genes.. but as long it saves the situation, preventing slaves to wake up in time..
19 February 2016 13:47
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's photo.
isegi need kaks trippi venda on suht häämingus nägudega :D
19 February 2016 02:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and i really want to, because i do want to fallow what common sense and god recommend me to do: to help these who need it most so they can help much more these who you would not be able with out them, in these lengths
19 February 2016 01:05
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
ajast ees vennad jep
18 February 2016 17:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Väga ulme, kui avalikud programmid, nagu ei hoolitakski enam peita ... Kuid jah, samad punased ma usun, teevad ka seda Silma vastast propakandat, et igast oma toimetused ühe asja suunas süüdistada.. kõik enamuses ennast targaks pidavad süüdistaksid miraazi aga päris tegelased saaksid ise oma asja edasi thea ja toimetada mille taga on headus tegelt lõppude lõpuks (kuid isegi kui poleks, siis juba piisaks neil kui erilisem oleksid, )
18 February 2016 16:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tiestost kahju..
18 February 2016 16:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
diablo kohta, veel et
siin mängus kergesti asi selgeks saab:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/Diablo_Coverart.png?1455808181134 (top 50 most important games of all time, good and interesting but simple plot, small but expands mind on basic needed)
siin mängus kergesti asi selgeks saab:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/Diablo_Coverart.png?1455808181134 (top 50 most important games of all time, good and interesting but simple plot, small but expands mind on basic needed)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/Diablo_Coverart.png?1455808181134
18 February 2016 16:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
For next:
"I think that we are chemicals, I think the dark is light"
- Chemicals part is Communism Greek-Club of Rome Gay Rights Satan robot programming (in purpose mention all these connected words) to make You believe that You are Not a Spiritual, to separate You from God, To literally use your mind to make your own body condition and heart more hard and in slave of FalseFakeScamHalfKnowledge about Your source, state of mind and future. Once people mind accept it they willseprate and cut them self off from most of the powers, knowings, feelings and intuition that one might have access if to quit wrong thinking, acting, food and products consuming,
He uses words "I think" so in Your mind You would think "me also" or "sounds might be..." or recantation equal " i know..." and many other way in relation, in fakeHUmble way, so you yourself will put spell on You. You yourself will commit a crime in your heart, mind and body.
After Humans start to think, one is just a chemical there is so many things one will feel less, and about what one will be worried about, also one will accept wrong morale's things to be done with one self then more and to others.
This sentence is in parallel connection with another song that repeated in to your mind months before "you/we ARE chemical" from Tiësto (with Diabl0...)
And the "i think dark is light..." is added in to end of it as mind after accepting first false that was on the border, will more easily then fallow up with that one top of that (got it right? First make you accept one thing that cuts You of from a logic and wisdom, and then after another "i think" you, as agreerer with first one will more likelly sub-mind level accept that also top of that.. as you not want to disagree with the one You just agreed and friend-ed in mind )
---
Tiësto & Don Diablo – Chemicals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbvqv19Nf0E ) - //this was injected in to mind before hand, so you mind would find a answer faster... (remember, that these things,songs etc are made to work in separate and with each other, as company behind it all, League is with same interests)
Tiësto ise tgei hea elektroonilise armastuse beedi kunagi ja tema liinis praegu hea sisse süstida mida iganes, kelle südametsse ta kunagi pääses kerge elektroonilise tehnoloogiaga, tol ajal veel postiivsuse pool tööd tehes, suht
but back to a main song now..
Tiësto with D :
Algus: "I’m only human ..... Just what can I do " (pannes inimest maha, väikeseks, ja lootusetusesse. Arusaamata 1 Corinthians 6:3, ... kus meie võimu langenud ja muude inglite üle selgitatakse... mida nad siiani proovinud takistada, et siin läbi meest naiste ligi saada ja samas enda positsiooni kaitsta, nagu poliitiku ja gängijuhi symbioos, kui nad.)
Lõpp:
"What’s going on inside my brain
You are somewhere on my DNA
You got me way up in the sky, sky, sky
Just pull me closer in the night, night, nignt"
"I think that we are chemicals, I think the dark is light"
- Chemicals part is Communism Greek-Club of Rome Gay Rights Satan robot programming (in purpose mention all these connected words) to make You believe that You are Not a Spiritual, to separate You from God, To literally use your mind to make your own body condition and heart more hard and in slave of FalseFakeScamHalfKnowledge about Your source, state of mind and future. Once people mind accept it they willseprate and cut them self off from most of the powers, knowings, feelings and intuition that one might have access if to quit wrong thinking, acting, food and products consuming,
He uses words "I think" so in Your mind You would think "me also" or "sounds might be..." or recantation equal " i know..." and many other way in relation, in fakeHUmble way, so you yourself will put spell on You. You yourself will commit a crime in your heart, mind and body.
After Humans start to think, one is just a chemical there is so many things one will feel less, and about what one will be worried about, also one will accept wrong morale's things to be done with one self then more and to others.
This sentence is in parallel connection with another song that repeated in to your mind months before "you/we ARE chemical" from Tiësto (with Diabl0...)
And the "i think dark is light..." is added in to end of it as mind after accepting first false that was on the border, will more easily then fallow up with that one top of that (got it right? First make you accept one thing that cuts You of from a logic and wisdom, and then after another "i think" you, as agreerer with first one will more likelly sub-mind level accept that also top of that.. as you not want to disagree with the one You just agreed and friend-ed in mind )
---
Tiësto & Don Diablo – Chemicals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbvqv19Nf0E ) - //this was injected in to mind before hand, so you mind would find a answer faster... (remember, that these things,songs etc are made to work in separate and with each other, as company behind it all, League is with same interests)
Tiësto ise tgei hea elektroonilise armastuse beedi kunagi ja tema liinis praegu hea sisse süstida mida iganes, kelle südametsse ta kunagi pääses kerge elektroonilise tehnoloogiaga, tol ajal veel postiivsuse pool tööd tehes, suht
but back to a main song now..
Tiësto with D :
Algus: "I’m only human ..... Just what can I do " (pannes inimest maha, väikeseks, ja lootusetusesse. Arusaamata 1 Corinthians 6:3, ... kus meie võimu langenud ja muude inglite üle selgitatakse... mida nad siiani proovinud takistada, et siin läbi meest naiste ligi saada ja samas enda positsiooni kaitsta, nagu poliitiku ja gängijuhi symbioos, kui nad.)
Lõpp:
"What’s going on inside my brain
You are somewhere on my DNA
You got me way up in the sky, sky, sky
Just pull me closer in the night, night, nignt"
18 February 2016 16:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://hypnothoughts.com/robert-hansen/group_discuss/883/the-dark-side-manual-here-you-can-read-the-suicide-script-and-other-patterns
http://hypnothoughts.com/robert-hansen/group_discuss/883/the-dark-side-manual-here-you-can-read-the-suicide-script-and-other-patterns
18 February 2016 15:37
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
My point why i have told long time ago, that polaitness is a devil tool and is actually really evil and bad, NOT NICE thing to do, and be, to be polite IS insulting to me, and should be for you also
Just listen this guy, from 15:50...-16:20..
"You will find more and more in future people will not confront you for what You do.. and this is good news, it makes all this (dark hypnoses, fooling people) much more easy"
https://youtu.be/W1_11NCrvWw?t=870
Just listen this guy, from 15:50...-16:20..
"You will find more and more in future people will not confront you for what You do.. and this is good news, it makes all this (dark hypnoses, fooling people) much more easy"
https://youtu.be/W1_11NCrvWw?t=870
https://youtu.be/W1_11NCrvWw?t=870
18 February 2016 15:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Women can play in high level also, to let infected people in belief that they was hypnod.. so to keep dark side less advanced
18 February 2016 14:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz8l-zu5MGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz8l-zu5MGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz8l-zu5MGo
18 February 2016 14:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
18 February 2016 14:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R7T9GYVXoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R7T9GYVXoQ
18 February 2016 14:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45406uhhFxc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45406uhhFxc
18 February 2016 14:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Yes, You released, but they have another tech, to limit Your entire audience to few hundred only..
18 February 2016 14:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis veel: http://www.hypnosisunlocked.com/hypnotic-seduction-techniques/
http://www.hypnosisunlocked.com/hypnotic-seduction-techniques/
18 February 2016 14:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Või enda abi jaoks...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz8l-zu5MGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz8l-zu5MGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz8l-zu5MGo
18 February 2016 14:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu näed, nüüd reaalselt Sul ongi uued asjad avastatud mida netist näha : )
18 February 2016 13:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
18 February 2016 13:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mõtlesin mingi humoorika hroni laulu siia otsa panna, ja siis vaatasin mida YT pakub, ja mõtleisn just, kas see minu konto süü, aga esimesena selle sõna peale tuli see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os4PvC2nKhg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os4PvC2nKhg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os4PvC2nKhg
18 February 2016 13:48
Margus Meigo commented on Claire Khaw's post.
Group: Patriarchy v Matriarchy
Explain Claire Khaw18 February 2016 13:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kirg on ikka midagi ilusamat ju...
18 February 2016 13:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kire all mõtled kiima ?
18 February 2016 13:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
siis tunned midagi vähemalt
18 February 2016 13:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oot.. kas see seks on armatsemine ilma armastuseta v?
Ma ise arvasin enne,.. et mis sex see ilma armastuseta ikka on, turvalisem siis juba ennast ise rahuldatuna tunda..
Ma ise arvasin enne,.. et mis sex see ilma armastuseta ikka on, turvalisem siis juba ennast ise rahuldatuna tunda..
18 February 2016 13:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lets break down that wack:
"I think scars are beautiful, I think black is white"
- just you thinking so does not make it so. Thanks for confession sicko but this just shows You are upside down, broken, unsafe, ignorant. Spirit posessed
Magical power of these lies: Makes people think that there is no right or wrong, that bad and pain is good so it is okey to make and receive it. Specially works weak in mind, in pain or confusion teens and people in near 30s. Subconsciously and consciously, actively.
Usage of this spell by highest bad: so they make Bad (against you or coming inside you and doing against other or let them do to you) and make you believe, it is okey,.. they send you in to pain.. and then make yourself blaming yourself on it or in another extreme enjoy it (or even if TO other, damage is already done, bad is let in). Including sleeping over unmoral borders, lies and intentional hurt to others.
Also small hint on black and white board that some cultist are related to what they call The Game what the spirits have made them believe it is in here, and they can be "in a game.."
- this is just first sentence, basic layers what should be clear
always think deep final menaing of words and look if they make sense religiously and matriarchy or nature loving point of view
"I think scars are beautiful, I think black is white"
- just you thinking so does not make it so. Thanks for confession sicko but this just shows You are upside down, broken, unsafe, ignorant. Spirit posessed
Magical power of these lies: Makes people think that there is no right or wrong, that bad and pain is good so it is okey to make and receive it. Specially works weak in mind, in pain or confusion teens and people in near 30s. Subconsciously and consciously, actively.
Usage of this spell by highest bad: so they make Bad (against you or coming inside you and doing against other or let them do to you) and make you believe, it is okey,.. they send you in to pain.. and then make yourself blaming yourself on it or in another extreme enjoy it (or even if TO other, damage is already done, bad is let in). Including sleeping over unmoral borders, lies and intentional hurt to others.
Also small hint on black and white board that some cultist are related to what they call The Game what the spirits have made them believe it is in here, and they can be "in a game.."
- this is just first sentence, basic layers what should be clear
always think deep final menaing of words and look if they make sense religiously and matriarchy or nature loving point of view
18 February 2016 13:30
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
ja kui keegi ütleb, et "ma enam ei armasta ...SIND..." siis.. see tähendab, et nad isegi ei teadnud mis on armastus
18 February 2016 13:19
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Well, they newer did
18 February 2016 13:18
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Vb lihtsalt ta oma mõttes tahab loomi ka kord aidata, vabadusse lasta.. .et loom saaks olla kus loom tahab.. kes ütles, et nad peavad olema seal kus meie ütleme
18 February 2016 13:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mul üks esimesi suuri sõpru kunagi isegi sellise ülevaate juba muistsetel iidsetel aegadel minust maha jättis inimkonnale soovituslikult:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205948724733965&set=a.10205948702933420.1073741841.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205948724733965&set=a.10205948702933420.1073741841.1135161043&type=3&theater
18 February 2016 13:07
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
Mu sõbra nägu mis tal 1:1 oli tihti, nüüd saan aru
18 February 2016 12:58
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
Its a fact
18 February 2016 12:57
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
Päris ulme nagu, inimesed muidu ongi sedasi, et õpivad positsioone nagu... ei mõista seda asja, et kas need asjad naturaalselt siis nagu ei tule või omavahel.. inimesed ju ikkagi usaldama oma hinge peaksid üksteisele ja siis pole mure suunata ja tagasi suunata sinna kuidas mõlemal on meeldiv
18 February 2016 12:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
maailmade põrkumine
18 February 2016 12:40
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
Ma tavaliselt ei naera to a weirdsht aga see oli lol guaranteed
18 February 2016 12:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see edasiarendus sellest vaimunürisünnitusest http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alesso/scarsoflife.html
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alesso/scarsoflife.html
18 February 2016 12:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See siis peaks see laul olema, sõnade põhjal mis kõrvu jäid (sellel olid vähemalt sõnad mis kõrvu jäid, kuid see mis kõrvu jäi ei olnud kuidagi rõõmsam uudis)
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alesso/scars.html
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alesso/scars.html
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alesso/scars.html
18 February 2016 12:05
Margus Meigo commented on Dom Struski Merowing's life event.
There is so much important i can Use to help You all, Royals
18 February 2016 03:29
Margus Meigo commented on One World Media's link.
Well, we have theory in here, that all are not from Africa really.
As Polish is not from Norway
As Polish is not from Norway
18 February 2016 02:56
Margus Meigo commented on One World Media's link.
This is Russian way of all the time Warning, so they hope, if something happens, then THIS time of warning can be used later to eliminate USA and make them self look good
even if they them self initiate it
basic strategy (if you collect up these warnings you can see how many there is ...)
even if they them self initiate it
basic strategy (if you collect up these warnings you can see how many there is ...)
18 February 2016 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Siis just selle video all, samamoodi tühjade kontode alt
" who else is confused by this? "
"me"
"me definitely"
"she aint even singing in the video!? and where tf is Drake at!??"
"music video doesnt match the song at all"
"Why can't Rihanna just be that beautiful, talented woman from Barbados? Why does she have to do all this stupid satanic shit? This video sucks." (milline nali, just tema PÄRIS videod on krjast tegelikult kui sisu vaadata)
"Don't watch this shit"
"this is some illuminati shit dont watch this crapp"
"Wtf is this?
" (video kohta)
"wtf is this
"
"fuck this"
"why is this on arianagrandemusicvevo ?"
(ja mitte ainult, 7 versiooni samast laulust erinevate asjade vahel.. ja kogu kanal tehti vähem kui kuuaega tagasi... vot mine tea mis hüpoteetilised yt sõjad ja vaimu meelte mõjutused siin saavad potentsiaalselt olla sellega seotult...
siin kohal võimalus isegi, et ei ole. kuid Filmi skripti sisse see sobib sellegi poolest)
//neile kes mu märkmeid juhtunud viimastel aastatel lugema.. siis tea, et viimases lauses siin ka üks vihe miks need märked ja eri suunalised postid, kuid see pole veel kõik ega kogutähendus (lisaks sellele, et endale, meelte ülesehituseks)
" who else is confused by this? "
"me"
"me definitely"
"she aint even singing in the video!? and where tf is Drake at!??"
"music video doesnt match the song at all"
"Why can't Rihanna just be that beautiful, talented woman from Barbados? Why does she have to do all this stupid satanic shit? This video sucks." (milline nali, just tema PÄRIS videod on krjast tegelikult kui sisu vaadata)
"Don't watch this shit"
"this is some illuminati shit dont watch this crapp"
"Wtf is this?

"wtf is this

"fuck this"
"why is this on arianagrandemusicvevo ?"
(ja mitte ainult, 7 versiooni samast laulust erinevate asjade vahel.. ja kogu kanal tehti vähem kui kuuaega tagasi... vot mine tea mis hüpoteetilised yt sõjad ja vaimu meelte mõjutused siin saavad potentsiaalselt olla sellega seotult...
siin kohal võimalus isegi, et ei ole. kuid Filmi skripti sisse see sobib sellegi poolest)
//neile kes mu märkmeid juhtunud viimastel aastatel lugema.. siis tea, et viimases lauses siin ka üks vihe miks need märked ja eri suunalised postid, kuid see pole veel kõik ega kogutähendus (lisaks sellele, et endale, meelte ülesehituseks)
18 February 2016 02:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lisa huvitusena, on muidugi suur hulk selle VIDEO (mitte laulu) vastaseid inimesi ja botte tekkinud,
kuidas aru saada et botid? Nu... see enamasti lihtne, kuid lisaks siin tegu pole tava späm või reklaami bottidega, vaid spetsiifiliselt suunatud, mingisuguse asja vastu üheselt mis esimest korda tundub nagu on sügavama mõttega rihanna enda asjade hulgast
kuidas aru saada et botid? Nu... see enamasti lihtne, kuid lisaks siin tegu pole tava späm või reklaami bottidega, vaid spetsiifiliselt suunatud, mingisuguse asja vastu üheselt mis esimest korda tundub nagu on sügavama mõttega rihanna enda asjade hulgast
18 February 2016 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See tundub küll olema ajakulutus aga tegelikult mitte, see ka , oluline investeering ning minnes selle laulu hirmule vastu, nüüd vast isegi see laul ei riku mu päeva enam ära sest ajus on mingid seosed ja tähendused sellega.
Kui aga kohe ainult audiot esimesena kuulata... siis see ajule suht kahjulik saab olla ratsionaalsetele inimestele ja paljudele teistele.
Selle audio lingi, kiiirema versiooni ilma videota siia postitamine oleks olnud pahategu... seega, kes seda lulu esimesena ilma tagaloota pole raadiost kogenud, ei pea õnneks ka seda läbi elama
aju leiab nüüd mingisugused tähendused ja alateadvus rahuneb...
ega spell käib ka sedasi.. et tekitatakse lõhemik, avatus meeltes, segadus.. ja siis järjekorras visatakse sõnad sisse, mis ajutehnoloogiat teadvate olendite poolt välja mõõdetult, õige hulga sõnu õiges järjekorras üles korjab ja nendest kokku teeb sul tagatuastal midagi, millele Sa ise nõusolekut ei annaks.
nagu parooli mitu osa või pommi mitu osa jupiti viiakse sisse, siis need kokkuladudes moodustub see mis plaanis oli moodustada ja siis see aktiviseerub sest aju on pidevalt asju kasutusse panev... ja kohe ÜLDSE MITTE ei tasu arvata, et see vähem kui tavaline tase on nende jaoks, kes selliste levelitega, keele tehnoloogiatega, aju tehnoloogiatega siin tegelevad selle liigi kallal... nende jaoks see lihtsalt katesetatav ja töötav tehnoloogia, mis toimib piisava hulga peal... ja asja odavust arvestades, on kasum suures hulgas tagasi tulnud
Kui aga kohe ainult audiot esimesena kuulata... siis see ajule suht kahjulik saab olla ratsionaalsetele inimestele ja paljudele teistele.
Selle audio lingi, kiiirema versiooni ilma videota siia postitamine oleks olnud pahategu... seega, kes seda lulu esimesena ilma tagaloota pole raadiost kogenud, ei pea õnneks ka seda läbi elama
aju leiab nüüd mingisugused tähendused ja alateadvus rahuneb...
ega spell käib ka sedasi.. et tekitatakse lõhemik, avatus meeltes, segadus.. ja siis järjekorras visatakse sõnad sisse, mis ajutehnoloogiat teadvate olendite poolt välja mõõdetult, õige hulga sõnu õiges järjekorras üles korjab ja nendest kokku teeb sul tagatuastal midagi, millele Sa ise nõusolekut ei annaks.
nagu parooli mitu osa või pommi mitu osa jupiti viiakse sisse, siis need kokkuladudes moodustub see mis plaanis oli moodustada ja siis see aktiviseerub sest aju on pidevalt asju kasutusse panev... ja kohe ÜLDSE MITTE ei tasu arvata, et see vähem kui tavaline tase on nende jaoks, kes selliste levelitega, keele tehnoloogiatega, aju tehnoloogiatega siin tegelevad selle liigi kallal... nende jaoks see lihtsalt katesetatav ja töötav tehnoloogia, mis toimib piisava hulga peal... ja asja odavust arvestades, on kasum suures hulgas tagasi tulnud
18 February 2016 02:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hey behind scenes
ja eks siit on muidugi näha neid inimesi ise, kes selliste asjadega tegelevad, et mis sügavust siit nende enda poolt loota saab, kui te teate neid ja selliseid vaime mis on seotud taolistega
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtNtEG3LSUw
ja eks siit on muidugi näha neid inimesi ise, kes selliste asjadega tegelevad, et mis sügavust siit nende enda poolt loota saab, kui te teate neid ja selliseid vaime mis on seotud taolistega
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtNtEG3LSUw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtNtEG3LSUw
18 February 2016 01:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
reaction video, reaktsiooni video
See pani mind mõtlema, et wau.. nii.. armas et ikka ei tohi nii karme hinnanguid panna, isegi rihanna kaubale kui ei tea, et see rihanna kaup on
sest inimestele tõesti siiralt meeldib see ja saad näha, et nad leiavad sellest selle osa mis neile meeldib
ja siis meeldib
muidugi saab ka meelega selliseid võlts meeldimis videosi teha, et inimesi sundida, meelitama meeldima asja mis tegelikult on mingisugune vaimne terror... mingi spell mis su meeltesse ketratakse ja psyholoogiline trik mis Su meeled sassi ajab
(mis saavad olla ka mõlemad korraga laulus sees, laulu nõidusja psüholoogia on elementaarne asi mis käsikäes käivad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMldaIoujeo
See pani mind mõtlema, et wau.. nii.. armas et ikka ei tohi nii karme hinnanguid panna, isegi rihanna kaubale kui ei tea, et see rihanna kaup on
sest inimestele tõesti siiralt meeldib see ja saad näha, et nad leiavad sellest selle osa mis neile meeldib
ja siis meeldib
muidugi saab ka meelega selliseid võlts meeldimis videosi teha, et inimesi sundida, meelitama meeldima asja mis tegelikult on mingisugune vaimne terror... mingi spell mis su meeltesse ketratakse ja psyholoogiline trik mis Su meeled sassi ajab
(mis saavad olla ka mõlemad korraga laulus sees, laulu nõidusja psüholoogia on elementaarne asi mis käsikäes käivad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMldaIoujeo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMldaIoujeo
18 February 2016 01:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mehe versiooon, kõige arusaadavam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsSCl8UXlrY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsSCl8UXlrY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsSCl8UXlrY
18 February 2016 01:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
rohkem arusaadev: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6Jj4mtDWnI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6Jj4mtDWnI
18 February 2016 01:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid raadio versioon vist on siis veel kiirem ja häirivam, proovin järgminekord seda kuulata.
Peale uuringut (tagatausta ja inimeste kes fännid vaimude tausta) aga uuesti vaimselt kuulata seda, et tunnetada... miks see laul tehtud oli...
Peale uuringut (tagatausta ja inimeste kes fännid vaimude tausta) aga uuesti vaimselt kuulata seda, et tunnetada... miks see laul tehtud oli...
18 February 2016 01:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja lisaks veel jamaika osa:
i reALLY LOVE THIS SONG OMG IM EVEN FROM TRINADA SO I KNOW HOW TO SING LIKE HER
--
"the author said she is using jamaican patois?? She is from barbados, they speak patois as well, im not sure what their version is called, but for the most part they are the same. So im pretty sure it is not jamaican patois.
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"im jamaican and listen to dancehall HEAVILY and i can barely verify if these lyrics are correct, and i got a good ear."
i reALLY LOVE THIS SONG OMG IM EVEN FROM TRINADA SO I KNOW HOW TO SING LIKE HER
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"the author said she is using jamaican patois?? She is from barbados, they speak patois as well, im not sure what their version is called, but for the most part they are the same. So im pretty sure it is not jamaican patois.
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"im jamaican and listen to dancehall HEAVILY and i can barely verify if these lyrics are correct, and i got a good ear."
18 February 2016 01:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nii ja siis kriitilisem pool:
" It’s incredibly sad that someone so successful can be so incredibly lazy to put out this unimaginative, lazy, poorly enunciated, horribly produced, so called song, with probably the worst use of auto tune (Drake’s rap) in a long long time…
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People jump on this shit cause it’s new. I guess it doesn’t take much to impress now a days with all the shitty music that comes out.
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what retard came up with those lyrics
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what a shit song !!!! hopeless rihanna
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im jamaican and listen to dancehall HEAVILY and i can barely verify if these lyrics are correct, and i got a good ear.
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damn son, those lyrics aren’t that deep….
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I don’t get any meaning from this song, its just a load of noise.
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Rihanna sounds like she is fighting ALS..
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4 people to produce that beat ?
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This song will have more views than White Privilege 2. Thats exactly what’s wrong with today’s industry. Pop over truth…
Coming from a huge Drake fan
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ja siis põhiline, mu lemmik komentaar:
well I don’t know: perhaps it sounds fine with music but I can’t understand what they are talking about. on other hand English is not my first language. on another hand Grammar was invented so people could understand each other and could carry meaningful conversation. I gather they are both employed? Its a positive thing I believe in times like these. some sort of physical labour me thinks. happy healthy individuals, oh you Americans "
" It’s incredibly sad that someone so successful can be so incredibly lazy to put out this unimaginative, lazy, poorly enunciated, horribly produced, so called song, with probably the worst use of auto tune (Drake’s rap) in a long long time…
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People jump on this shit cause it’s new. I guess it doesn’t take much to impress now a days with all the shitty music that comes out.
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what retard came up with those lyrics
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what a shit song !!!! hopeless rihanna
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im jamaican and listen to dancehall HEAVILY and i can barely verify if these lyrics are correct, and i got a good ear.
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damn son, those lyrics aren’t that deep….
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I don’t get any meaning from this song, its just a load of noise.
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Rihanna sounds like she is fighting ALS..
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4 people to produce that beat ?
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This song will have more views than White Privilege 2. Thats exactly what’s wrong with today’s industry. Pop over truth…
Coming from a huge Drake fan
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ja siis põhiline, mu lemmik komentaar:
well I don’t know: perhaps it sounds fine with music but I can’t understand what they are talking about. on other hand English is not my first language. on another hand Grammar was invented so people could understand each other and could carry meaningful conversation. I gather they are both employed? Its a positive thing I believe in times like these. some sort of physical labour me thinks. happy healthy individuals, oh you Americans "
18 February 2016 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Komentaarid mis toetavad laulu:
- (et kui lihtsalt keeleliselt mõelda, neid inimesi..)
this song is the shit (see toetav kommentaar tänapäeval)
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this is my song every time i hear this song i go crazy (pole ka ime..)
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I love this song soo much there i no hip pop song better than this (!)
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YAAAAAAAAAAAS RIHANNA I FUCKING LOVE YOU BITCH (milline austus)
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This shit goes!!! (mõelda vaid kuhu...)
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Shit goes hard (asoo, .. vaat kui mitut valet pidi seda mõista saab, siin siis sitta all mõeldud peenist ja samas "lahe asi eriti paremaks läheb" seekord.)
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in love wid it
Dis

some ting for your dancehall fans and J.A squad
and don’t worry i understand every word watwah (ja) the best…
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To all those out there calling this “lazy” you should know that it was meant to sound careless. It adds to the vibe of the song and was all probably intentional and besides it works great with the beat!! This is one of those somgs that kinda just grows on you the more you listen to it…..im hooked (nu jah, arvatavasti...)
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how can anybody NOT like this
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dope as shit
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I love this one
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this song is absolutly perfect






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This song makes me wish I had a big booty west indian ting in my life.
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best rihanna song
// muidugi, little did i know, et see tõesti võib olla Rihanna osas, parim laul...
(with all the respect,)
edasi siis, selliseid poole peal + siis mõned jamaikalased ise kommisid, kelle keelest selles laulus osa olema peaks:
" Is Ner Ner Ner meaning
Non-Existent Relationship:
1 The transition period between singlehood/“just friends” and a committed relationship
2 More than a hookup, but not quite a relationship
3 For people in friends with benefits relationships who want to deny it "
" 3 out of 5 ….. and this is me being generous because of Queen RIHANNAS Rhythm talent …… Too repetitive …. irritatingly lazy ….. and EYE DO NOT LIKE THE EFFECTS OF AUTOTUNE …. Autotune was cute when it was new but has been abused and is played out now and adds to the irritating factor of this song which effectively cancels the best feature which is its upbeat rhythm … .. "
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for some reason I wanted the tempo of the beat slower but this is an excellent song by the way. Drake and Rihanna always a good combo
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" I wish they would take each other off the market. Their chemistry is ridiculous. Why extend lonely, empty or uncertain nights when you can have THAT person. FYI, even arguments are good when its real. "
- (et kui lihtsalt keeleliselt mõelda, neid inimesi..)
this song is the shit (see toetav kommentaar tänapäeval)
-
this is my song every time i hear this song i go crazy (pole ka ime..)
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I love this song soo much there i no hip pop song better than this (!)
-
YAAAAAAAAAAAS RIHANNA I FUCKING LOVE YOU BITCH (milline austus)
-
This shit goes!!! (mõelda vaid kuhu...)
-
Shit goes hard (asoo, .. vaat kui mitut valet pidi seda mõista saab, siin siis sitta all mõeldud peenist ja samas "lahe asi eriti paremaks läheb" seekord.)
-
in love wid it
Dis


some ting for your dancehall fans and J.A squad
and don’t worry i understand every word watwah (ja) the best…
-
To all those out there calling this “lazy” you should know that it was meant to sound careless. It adds to the vibe of the song and was all probably intentional and besides it works great with the beat!! This is one of those somgs that kinda just grows on you the more you listen to it…..im hooked (nu jah, arvatavasti...)
-
how can anybody NOT like this
-
dope as shit
-
I love this one
-
this song is absolutly perfect







--
This song makes me wish I had a big booty west indian ting in my life.
-
best rihanna song
// muidugi, little did i know, et see tõesti võib olla Rihanna osas, parim laul...
(with all the respect,)
edasi siis, selliseid poole peal + siis mõned jamaikalased ise kommisid, kelle keelest selles laulus osa olema peaks:
" Is Ner Ner Ner meaning
Non-Existent Relationship:
1 The transition period between singlehood/“just friends” and a committed relationship
2 More than a hookup, but not quite a relationship
3 For people in friends with benefits relationships who want to deny it "
" 3 out of 5 ….. and this is me being generous because of Queen RIHANNAS Rhythm talent …… Too repetitive …. irritatingly lazy ….. and EYE DO NOT LIKE THE EFFECTS OF AUTOTUNE …. Autotune was cute when it was new but has been abused and is played out now and adds to the irritating factor of this song which effectively cancels the best feature which is its upbeat rhythm … .. "
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for some reason I wanted the tempo of the beat slower but this is an excellent song by the way. Drake and Rihanna always a good combo
---
" I wish they would take each other off the market. Their chemistry is ridiculous. Why extend lonely, empty or uncertain nights when you can have THAT person. FYI, even arguments are good when its real. "
18 February 2016 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nüüd rohkem hoolega, armastusega laulu sisse minnes oli võimalik isegi eraldada muusika ja sõnad ja tähendusi nii natuke kui selles neid oli, kuid suurim abiline oli see video lugu mis nad tegid, mis siis polnud päris video ise nagu ma aru sain, vaid albumi extra tehtud.
Mis siis huvitaval kombel on seekord hoopis teise vaimu vaibi pealt (ja siinkohal SELLE video osas pean ütlema, et oma algse reaktsiooni suuna ja selle video arusaama suunad on erinevad, ja eksisin kui arvasin, et see ainult väga halb on eeltatavasti mis selle lauluga seotud.).
Vb kogesim, tõmbasin laulja elust ja vaibist seda infot mis andis meeletu negatiivsuse shoki, päris rihanna enda asjad oleks osanud peas kinni eelneva filtriga keerata, kuid kuna ei teadnud kes ja miks laulavad, siis seda lukku peal ei olnud,
Segadusega alati ju kaasneb sutsu uudishimu, sest segadus on mitte arusaamine, mitte teadmine ja inimese naturaalne suund on teada ja aru saada, seega su alateadvuslik aju jookseb ikka vastu seina sest töötab, püüab töödata tagataustal välja tähendusi asjadel mida esimese astme kõrvad kuulevad, et väga arusaamatu ja arulage on. Nu ja siis see meeletu error tekib ja segadus lisaks prääksumise ja inisemise vahepealsele helile mis hypnotiseeriva tagatausta najal härivalt su sisse läheb, ilma, et oskaks seda ära plokeerida. Kuid eks midagi uut õppinud jälle, vaja ennast upgeidida.
Siin siis video, millega koos kogu see asi seeditavam on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY00JVGF51U
Muidugi keset tööpäeva muu sagimise keskel endiselt väga raske seedida, kuid enam mitte nii hull, eks oma hirmudele tuleb vastu minna.
See muidugi ei tähenda, et see laul ohtlik poleks
lihtsalt vaata neid vaime kes tollega seotud on....
kuid eks see video annab teada, et vaikselt Rihannake võetakse paremate vaimude poolt üle, vist, ja vabastatakse ta nonstop töölt... lubades tal hakata tegema rohkema mõttega laule, tuues kaasa kõrgemat arengutasemet ja arusaama nendesse arenguklassidesse kes tema muusika fännid ja kultuuri tausta raskem osa on,
kui kopeerin siia neid komentaare mis teda toetavad on siis rohkem arusaadav
KOmmentaar:
"hill this ain't the video, just some Illuminati video story telling on the album before the videos, they just put the audio with it."
Mis siis huvitaval kombel on seekord hoopis teise vaimu vaibi pealt (ja siinkohal SELLE video osas pean ütlema, et oma algse reaktsiooni suuna ja selle video arusaama suunad on erinevad, ja eksisin kui arvasin, et see ainult väga halb on eeltatavasti mis selle lauluga seotud.).
Vb kogesim, tõmbasin laulja elust ja vaibist seda infot mis andis meeletu negatiivsuse shoki, päris rihanna enda asjad oleks osanud peas kinni eelneva filtriga keerata, kuid kuna ei teadnud kes ja miks laulavad, siis seda lukku peal ei olnud,
Segadusega alati ju kaasneb sutsu uudishimu, sest segadus on mitte arusaamine, mitte teadmine ja inimese naturaalne suund on teada ja aru saada, seega su alateadvuslik aju jookseb ikka vastu seina sest töötab, püüab töödata tagataustal välja tähendusi asjadel mida esimese astme kõrvad kuulevad, et väga arusaamatu ja arulage on. Nu ja siis see meeletu error tekib ja segadus lisaks prääksumise ja inisemise vahepealsele helile mis hypnotiseeriva tagatausta najal härivalt su sisse läheb, ilma, et oskaks seda ära plokeerida. Kuid eks midagi uut õppinud jälle, vaja ennast upgeidida.
Siin siis video, millega koos kogu see asi seeditavam on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY00JVGF51U
Muidugi keset tööpäeva muu sagimise keskel endiselt väga raske seedida, kuid enam mitte nii hull, eks oma hirmudele tuleb vastu minna.
See muidugi ei tähenda, et see laul ohtlik poleks
lihtsalt vaata neid vaime kes tollega seotud on....
kuid eks see video annab teada, et vaikselt Rihannake võetakse paremate vaimude poolt üle, vist, ja vabastatakse ta nonstop töölt... lubades tal hakata tegema rohkema mõttega laule, tuues kaasa kõrgemat arengutasemet ja arusaama nendesse arenguklassidesse kes tema muusika fännid ja kultuuri tausta raskem osa on,
kui kopeerin siia neid komentaare mis teda toetavad on siis rohkem arusaadav
KOmmentaar:
"hill this ain't the video, just some Illuminati video story telling on the album before the videos, they just put the audio with it."
18 February 2016 01:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey, ma veel seedin, kuid jah, see ikkagi on päris laul, päris lauljalt, lihtsalt ma seda raadio versiooni pole veel leidnud mis eriti ajukahjustavalt kõlab, tegin siin igast tagatausta uuringut arvamuste ja eri versioonide osas. Veider on see ,et nad seda videot ise pole välja lasknud, on aga selle video VideoLoo välja lasknud.. ning suur hunnik covereid sellel juba, kuid originaali videot ei ole
18 February 2016 01:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ei aga soe, see ei tundu nii valus olema üldse. vb sest ei lasta raadios ka. Kuid jah, .. vist leidsin.. kondasin TO20 neid pop raadiotes läbi jms. Üks sõna laulust tuli meelde ja see vist läks täkke, ma endiselt ei suuda imestada, et see ongi see... ja see laulja taust ei pane imestama ka, et ta sellise projektiga liitus
17 February 2016 21:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
virts kõrvadele oleks nagu õhtuvaikuses ööbiku kuulamine selle kõrval
17 February 2016 20:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid ülejäänud sõnad tuvastamatuse jaoks on ajust kustunud selleks hetkeks :D see VIST ei ole küll osa nende plaanist, vaid kaasnev effekt, kui aru saad mis toimus ja proovid uurima hakata mis just juhtus, siis juba hilja, siis aju tühi juba
17 February 2016 20:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nad vahepeale mingeid sõnu inglise keeles ka ütlevad kuid põhi osa laulust on selline, ower and ower and ower again
17 February 2016 20:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid Sul väga vedanud
Ma täiesti fantastika äärel üllatunud, et valitsused lubavad sellist asja raadiosse lihtsalt, kas siis mingit sellist ametkonda kõrgemal pole nagu eelmise ikke all, kus vähemalt mingi moraalifiltrit prooviti rakendada.
Kui nii edasi läheb, siis ma ei julge isegi mõelda, mida järgmiseks raadiosse lastakse. See on sõna otseses mõttes relv kes vähegi teadlik juhtub sellele laulule eelnevalt olema
Ma täiesti fantastika äärel üllatunud, et valitsused lubavad sellist asja raadiosse lihtsalt, kas siis mingit sellist ametkonda kõrgemal pole nagu eelmise ikke all, kus vähemalt mingi moraalifiltrit prooviti rakendada.
Kui nii edasi läheb, siis ma ei julge isegi mõelda, mida järgmiseks raadiosse lastakse. See on sõna otseses mõttes relv kes vähegi teadlik juhtub sellele laulule eelnevalt olema
17 February 2016 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sõnad on suht täpsed tegelikult
17 February 2016 20:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
selleks ajaks kui see laul peale on siis aju invaliidistub väga kiirelt ja muutub juurviljaks järgmiseks 10neks minutiks, kuid ma proovin seda valmis hoida, Samas hirmus oodata ka seda laulu, et äkki tulebki..
17 February 2016 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on Joshua Theo Brendon's post.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
hahaha, man these atheist jokes get better and better17 February 2016 15:14
Margus Meigo commented on Margaret C Taylor's post.
Group: Law Enforcement for Life!
But what is needed to do,
there needs to be broadcasted when some read cop shoots a bad corrupted cop to death and the shooter gets award for it,
this would bring trust to police back in whole new level,
And we many know, who are the ones who play on dark side... and make whole image of police worthless among great part of people.
i know i got a bit radical thoughts at times.
Another option would be to kidnap these dark police, by real police special service, took them to woods and give them epic amount of LSD to see how they change their mind and say sorry to a camera for bad they have done.
These kind of things need to be done, it is not bad for image, but it is cleaning for a image as it shows one got balls to take on the most dangerous ones, and one of their own kind gone bad... this brings respect back, even just 2-3 story like that.
This makes communist propaganda much harder, that "all are same, some just pretend to be nice"17 February 2016 12:27
Margus Meigo commented on Margaret C Taylor's post.
Group: Law Enforcement for Life!
When living with anarchists and people from Blood to C..
this had hard concept to explain them
but did my best17 February 2016 12:19
Margus Meigo commented on Hevely Koppel's post.
või 7
17 February 2016 10:14
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Prits's comment.
God did not provide everyone with a mind to boggle out topics like that
so thats okey Marek
so thats okey Marek
17 February 2016 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
yes
17 February 2016 01:57
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Šarec's post.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
In fact, 2 guys can not be in real love,
Why You use this word for it?
It is technically impossible if You know what the word means16 February 2016 22:11
Margus Meigo commented on Vahur Sillasoo's photo.
Ma pole küll traktorist, aga See vist pole enam T42
16 February 2016 22:10
Margus Meigo commented on Kevin Gordon's post.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
as am told, finally they get more near to truth16 February 2016 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Its comes handy to have access to defenses main frames
16 February 2016 19:54
Margus Meigo commented on Katri Kotkas's post.
Group: Loodusesõbrad
Imeilus16 February 2016 19:15
Margus Meigo commented on Tim Estes's post.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
This logic can have only for a people, who know about fart sharing16 February 2016 19:14
Margus Meigo commented on Katie Hensley's post.
Group: Vegan Humor Ⓥ
yeah give plants to this old good fairy soaked water, they so happy about it16 February 2016 19:13
Margus Meigo commented on Jamie Oliver's post.
Group: Britain Belongs To The People
Then i would like "What isrealy products, where we can find that?"16 February 2016 19:12
Margus Meigo commented on Tejas R Chari's post.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
Bdw, it was Polish guy who made Mac, not Jobs16 February 2016 19:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
if people would know the characters and ACii meanings .. o boy : )
they even miss out for the big pentagram on most of the browsers as "favorite" button..16 February 2016 19:08
Margus Meigo commented on Tejas R Chari's post.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
Computers are really religious16 February 2016 19:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
not retard really, but .. may we say Android? Cyclone is already to advanced...16 February 2016 19:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
and in life16 February 2016 19:05
Margus Meigo commented on Averill Davenport's post.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
some people really do grow up with in faith that 1+1 is 2 in nature also.16 February 2016 19:05
Margus Meigo replied to Ecstacy Balmores's comment.
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that what most atheist think, as they start to talk about "science" as they would know what they talk about16 February 2016 13:22
Margus Meigo replied to Daniel Louis Hall IV's comment.
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or just, then You, as You the one, who think, that "no one knows"!16 February 2016 13:21
Margus Meigo replied to Daniel Louis Hall IV's comment.
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so that makes me smarter then genius16 February 2016 13:19
Margus Meigo replied to Daniel Louis Hall IV's comment.
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and just for Your knowing, Drugs are enhancing the mind proper, or let you access another dimensions in a world, or mind, or another vibration level information. Or let you access another spirits domains
I bet you also "not know" what am talking about now also16 February 2016 13:19
Margus Meigo replied to Daniel Louis Hall IV's comment.
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Well, i do , and i am someone, so you "no body" was wrong already.16 February 2016 13:18
Margus Meigo replied to Daniel Louis Hall IV's comment.
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and as better, we mean THE better16 February 2016 13:17
Margus Meigo replied to Daniel Louis Hall IV's comment.
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Or another simple one: is chocolate better then a ice cream?
Our mind can find answers with easy on these ones16 February 2016 13:17
Margus Meigo replied to Daniel Louis Hall IV's comment.
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Or even more simple ones, is there a truth ?
It is a simple factual question16 February 2016 13:16
Margus Meigo replied to Daniel Louis Hall IV's comment.
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Your science is really boor at handling most of the basic life questions starting from dreams and ending with love
(get over of your chemical reaction bollocks, chemicals are just what moving in a body in this time or there is chemicals that can make other chemicals move, this does not explain about what we are talking )16 February 2016 13:16
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Ozment's comment.
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yes, does not need to be a scientist to figure out, that science is to little to handle these kind of lengths16 February 2016 13:13
Margus Meigo commented on Kevin Gordon's post.
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Well, they got something right after all!16 February 2016 11:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
California dreaming uh ?
16 February 2016 11:06
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
peab selle kes seda lehte juhatab ikka pintsetide vahele võtma nagu paar aastat tagasi plaanis oli juba
16 February 2016 09:32
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
Muidugi nad on nüüd lõplikult nii raskeks teinud selle ellujäämis õpetuse online versioonile ligipääsu teinud, sest raha on pähe löönud ja muud kollid, et ei saagi üles leida seda otsinuppu kus raamatu sisu läbi otsida... argh!
16 February 2016 09:31
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
icc:
" Kallis teemaalgataja, sinu lapse ei ole allergia vaid on atoopiline nahapõletik ehk atoopiline dermatiit. Osti selle kohta infot ja unusta need allergiatestid ära, need ei näitagi midagi.
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Tundub mõistlik vastus ja kui see ka nii on siis tekib ainult küsimus – MIKS arstid seda ei ole rääkinud?"
http://foorum.perekool.ee/teema/allergiaga-vaga-hadas-kust-veel-abi-otsida/
" Kallis teemaalgataja, sinu lapse ei ole allergia vaid on atoopiline nahapõletik ehk atoopiline dermatiit. Osti selle kohta infot ja unusta need allergiatestid ära, need ei näitagi midagi.
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Tundub mõistlik vastus ja kui see ka nii on siis tekib ainult küsimus – MIKS arstid seda ei ole rääkinud?"
http://foorum.perekool.ee/teema/allergiaga-vaga-hadas-kust-veel-abi-otsida/
http://foorum.perekool.ee/teema/allergiaga-vaga-hadas-kust-veel-abi-otsida/
16 February 2016 09:28
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
http://www.terviseleht.ee/200045/45_timur.php
http://www.terviseleht.ee/200045/45_timur.php
16 February 2016 09:26
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
http://www.arengutee.com/allergiast-esoteerilisest-vaatevinklist.html
http://www.arengutee.com/allergiast-esoteerilisest-vaatevinklist.html
16 February 2016 09:25
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
mis nad on siis sellised alergikud!
16 February 2016 09:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei nii raske ikka, oeh (mitte raske, et ei tahaks, TAHAN aga kõike muud tahaks ka teha! Mis paraleelselt...)
16 February 2016 09:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
/me tööle
(harv juhus, üritan juba poolteist kuud, aga naiseta näe.. pole maandust)
(harv juhus, üritan juba poolteist kuud, aga naiseta näe.. pole maandust)
16 February 2016 09:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui ennast täis olla, siis enda maksimaalselt peegelpidi suuruselt asju näha aint saabki mõtlesin siin ükspäev... ja siis tõesti võib ärrituda, nähes kui väiklased siin teised mudilased on..
16 February 2016 09:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu aga siis meil pole muud teha kui tagasihoidlikult vabandada, et tema aunähtavusse sattusime selles ajahetkes kui talle hingamist antud ning loota, et ta suudab andestada vaatamata eksimusega mille läbi teda solvuma iseendas pandud sai...
muidugi saab hakkama nii kõrgeväeline andestusega...
muidugi saab hakkama nii kõrgeväeline andestusega...
16 February 2016 09:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja mehe au solvata ju ei sobi
16 February 2016 09:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nii, ma ei saanud ju jutumärkidesse panna, muidu kutt oleks solvunud
16 February 2016 09:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ok parandan, oma eismese postituse,
eesti mõttes, tele kuulsa.. minu viga (kuidas muidu ika, )
eesti mõttes, tele kuulsa.. minu viga (kuidas muidu ika, )
16 February 2016 09:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eks see suht nagu kleidi selga panemine ole... kuid jah .eks need vaimud ka sellised mis neid suts keerab... ja no allutab arusaamistele mis igast valele poole keeramist maailmas heaks kiidab.
16 February 2016 09:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu las nad olla, ma Võlurite külast, küll nendega ka hakkama saame ja kui lipsud ja ketid kaelaümber vabastame, siis õpivad õigesti istuma, kui vaja istuda
16 February 2016 09:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Leedukad : )
https://goo.gl/rUv16o
https://goo.gl/rUv16o
16 February 2016 08:53
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
Leedukad
16 February 2016 08:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
just as long You after discovering other universe understandings in another vibrations will not turn to polytheistic is all alright in my book.
16 February 2016 08:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"On February 11, 2016, scientists at the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-wave Observatory (LIGO) announced that they had confirmed that their equipment had detected a gravitational wave—a warp moving through space-time caused by a transformation of mass to energy. It’s a phenomenon predicted by Albert Einstein nearly a century ago, but never directly observed until now, and it was hailed as one of the greatest observations in modern scientific history, one that opens up a new way of observing, measuring and understanding the physical universe"
" The scientists at CERN are wanting to research the Higgs Force, which is pretty similar to the above. HaShem has created something for everyone to ponder, but the greatest revelation has to be Torah gems, rediscovering the knowledge of the sages as given with divine inspiration.
" The scientists at CERN are wanting to research the Higgs Force, which is pretty similar to the above. HaShem has created something for everyone to ponder, but the greatest revelation has to be Torah gems, rediscovering the knowledge of the sages as given with divine inspiration.
16 February 2016 08:48
Margus Meigo commented on Josh Bellamy's post.
But yea. these guys make great Yt videos, lot of effort in to these small nice video effects inside reviews , elite
16 February 2016 05:43
Margus Meigo commented on Josh Bellamy's post.
And the other series in here:;
"A year after Liberation Day, courtesy of the red-dust bacteria, the humanoid, lizard-like aliens develop a resistance to the micro-organism and try to regain control of the Earth--only now some humans are knowingly working with them. "
Well, proper lizards are our friends actually.. but anyway.. the story..
there was one where people find some sunglasses, and then they start to see things.. as they really are, from around same time.. this is also good addition to it.
You yourself also.. try to make piece with these spirits inside, let them obey(co-operation what faith needs) and accept to help the earth on cast them out with psychedelics (they might not go easy at first few times..)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086822
"A year after Liberation Day, courtesy of the red-dust bacteria, the humanoid, lizard-like aliens develop a resistance to the micro-organism and try to regain control of the Earth--only now some humans are knowingly working with them. "
Well, proper lizards are our friends actually.. but anyway.. the story..
there was one where people find some sunglasses, and then they start to see things.. as they really are, from around same time.. this is also good addition to it.
You yourself also.. try to make piece with these spirits inside, let them obey(co-operation what faith needs) and accept to help the earth on cast them out with psychedelics (they might not go easy at first few times..)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086822
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086822
16 February 2016 05:42
Margus Meigo commented on Josh Bellamy's post.
Actual story about the V .. that has not been known at all for some reason...
"When aliens come to Earth to ask for our help, a few suspicious humans discover their horrific true intentions and prepare to resist. "
Lame quality of the movie does not count, does not underestimate the truth inside-the story... as making big screen it would newer have been made perhaps for showing some details about intercosmical business to well ...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085106
"When aliens come to Earth to ask for our help, a few suspicious humans discover their horrific true intentions and prepare to resist. "
Lame quality of the movie does not count, does not underestimate the truth inside-the story... as making big screen it would newer have been made perhaps for showing some details about intercosmical business to well ...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085106
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085106
16 February 2016 05:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oih, võtan sildid lähemalt, siit pole näha.. sisu on võimas
16 February 2016 05:27
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's photo.
Mõtlesin kohe alguses ,et miski immigrandi teema
16 February 2016 05:16
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
loodame, et mõned ikka jäävad elama ka : )
16 February 2016 05:11
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Kurb on pigem, et neil inimestel pole arusaama relgioonist, et ar usaada asja tõsidust "Очень горько осознавать, что на выборы в законодательный орган власти идут продолжатели традиций большевиков и коммунистов, которые готовы на любые альянсы, даже с дьяволом, лишь бы попасть на Охотный ряд. "
ALIENCE kuradiga? Nagu mis kokuleppeid see kurjam ise endaga pidama hakkab ei tea? Et nagu kui nii tume ollakse, et aru ei saada, et kes tegi kommunismi ja mis relv, miks see oli, lihtsas relgiooses mõttes.. (see, et nad pentagrami endale sümboliks valisid, ka ei piisanud piisav vihje olema, nagu ka praeguse aja inimestele tähtedeall..) siis ikka väga idealiseeritakse olukorda pehmemaks ja vähem tõsisemaks ... sest noh.. ega ei julgeta mõelda asju päriselt, mida siis veel otsa mõtlema peab. ja siis oma asju vaatama...
ALIENCE kuradiga? Nagu mis kokuleppeid see kurjam ise endaga pidama hakkab ei tea? Et nagu kui nii tume ollakse, et aru ei saada, et kes tegi kommunismi ja mis relv, miks see oli, lihtsas relgiooses mõttes.. (see, et nad pentagrami endale sümboliks valisid, ka ei piisanud piisav vihje olema, nagu ka praeguse aja inimestele tähtedeall..) siis ikka väga idealiseeritakse olukorda pehmemaks ja vähem tõsisemaks ... sest noh.. ega ei julgeta mõelda asju päriselt, mida siis veel otsa mõtlema peab. ja siis oma asju vaatama...
16 February 2016 05:10
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's photo.
Suhtlus on
"Hey kuidas sa tunned?"
"Su küünar nukk on mu rinnapeal"
"a sorry"
" :) "
"kas thad liigutan natuke ka?"
"voib ka"
"kas nii on hea?"
"oota, mul üks teine sõnum tuli praegu sisse"
"mis mõttes???" "uuu! kos oled, kas lasen sisse v?? "
"lase kui tahad"
"ok"
":)"
"Hey kuidas sa tunned?"
"Su küünar nukk on mu rinnapeal"
"a sorry"
" :) "
"kas thad liigutan natuke ka?"
"voib ka"
"kas nii on hea?"
"oota, mul üks teine sõnum tuli praegu sisse"
"mis mõttes???" "uuu! kos oled, kas lasen sisse v?? "
"lase kui tahad"
"ok"
":)"
16 February 2016 05:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
wonder who else would post this kind of things to facebook?
Probably many
Probably many
16 February 2016 04:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or, perhaps someone in LATE teens (before 20s) as they still believe.
They still pure and not jet broken or hard heart.
But yea.. best would be perhaps mach the age of Your own.. but this have to be looking in to, who knows, what culture has most ultimate truth n it, of the most appropriate ages?
The ones imitating our species, should know jes?
(age 14 girl with 17 boy come to my mind for some reason, so 3 years difference it is for now, then. (makes sense, if legend says she is 4 years ahead...so there would be still year ahead to go for her:p))
in earthly times
They still pure and not jet broken or hard heart.
But yea.. best would be perhaps mach the age of Your own.. but this have to be looking in to, who knows, what culture has most ultimate truth n it, of the most appropriate ages?
The ones imitating our species, should know jes?
(age 14 girl with 17 boy come to my mind for some reason, so 3 years difference it is for now, then. (makes sense, if legend says she is 4 years ahead...so there would be still year ahead to go for her:p))
in earthly times
16 February 2016 04:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
also, perhaps in future times.. someone takes word on that, just cant wait for it.. : )
on live TV or something
on live TV or something
16 February 2016 04:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And if one is proper religious person, it does not matter the age of the girl if you get married, even if She is 1 years old,
as You grow up in another standards, and when she gets 16+, by becoming wife age, then She before decision will for sure be choosing what she wants, people are not impaired in brain when they grow up by growing next to a human who becomes their husband as by some strange plan and knowing, someone knows, that their needed DNA is needed to be mixed, in the end it is She who rules the game anyway. These games are so high of the people that you can read thousands of years later, that who are the average people commenting this ? Not idea of be on Galactic decisions what was made and put in to the book in purpose, knowing the norms and what comes.
and for sure, no one in religious mind can not think, do or act un-pure before the age she is responsible of giving permissions for these kind of thoughts, - this act can not be imitated by un-pure people as they unable to keep sick mind (sometimes even body..), but for pure mind it is easy to wait, and be in complete control of mind and desires, not to think any thoughts that is not needed, because , all your thoughts are open source. And can be seen ... if you know that.. if You religious..
Well, most likelly there is more natural explanation to all of this, but if it was how it was then only something like that can have been happening. Same with a Sir. Muhhamed and her young wife Sarah.
And the others what others think there was.
Mostly it is human self sick mind fruit, that can not find any other explanation then something they them self dream of. This is why man usually are all around that topic, as women does not dream of these kind of things that sound sick like that, on going..
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Well, my self more in to my age women so i can remember the times together, of the old good Estonia naive 90s love songs, nothing like tripping together with someone and these feelings that was back then...
as You grow up in another standards, and when she gets 16+, by becoming wife age, then She before decision will for sure be choosing what she wants, people are not impaired in brain when they grow up by growing next to a human who becomes their husband as by some strange plan and knowing, someone knows, that their needed DNA is needed to be mixed, in the end it is She who rules the game anyway. These games are so high of the people that you can read thousands of years later, that who are the average people commenting this ? Not idea of be on Galactic decisions what was made and put in to the book in purpose, knowing the norms and what comes.
and for sure, no one in religious mind can not think, do or act un-pure before the age she is responsible of giving permissions for these kind of thoughts, - this act can not be imitated by un-pure people as they unable to keep sick mind (sometimes even body..), but for pure mind it is easy to wait, and be in complete control of mind and desires, not to think any thoughts that is not needed, because , all your thoughts are open source. And can be seen ... if you know that.. if You religious..
Well, most likelly there is more natural explanation to all of this, but if it was how it was then only something like that can have been happening. Same with a Sir. Muhhamed and her young wife Sarah.
And the others what others think there was.
Mostly it is human self sick mind fruit, that can not find any other explanation then something they them self dream of. This is why man usually are all around that topic, as women does not dream of these kind of things that sound sick like that, on going..
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Well, my self more in to my age women so i can remember the times together, of the old good Estonia naive 90s love songs, nothing like tripping together with someone and these feelings that was back then...
16 February 2016 04:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
there is reason why god made you, be proud of it and accept some little extra,
and be proud as your force helped to save Orthodox
But all in all, as Eestlased, we respect motherland in a deep Maausk (Earth belief) way, as You must love the Earth, Your land, if You want to love God
and be proud as your force helped to save Orthodox
But all in all, as Eestlased, we respect motherland in a deep Maausk (Earth belief) way, as You must love the Earth, Your land, if You want to love God
16 February 2016 04:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and no hard feelings my Lutherian friends,
You know, i mean no harm
but what must be said must e sayd
and Your belief it will not change in core
will just get You more near to a real family
You know, i mean no harm
but what must be said must e sayd
and Your belief it will not change in core
will just get You more near to a real family
16 February 2016 04:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Just a note: I totally love Jews who from Hebrew, and hope we can all as one world free Jewland from communism and get beard and Torah in to fasion again. Please confuse not the bold faced ones with real Jews who meditate and trip had and deep and with love in Matriarchy waves that they have been keeping, from up to now not ending Roman-Greek empire that give birth to Communism, Hellenists it seems, Protesting Lutsiferians and many other strange things, that we old ones try to manage some how and figure out.. how to bring us all in to senses. and in to love with nature again.
If we wait longer then this century to get all alright, then we have to wait REALLY long time ago before another time comes to make things so well, so fast, so easy way... as my self, might not also be for good help after century, not in to born again to often. but not feeling like going away for ever also, will see.. but lets get it all done now in this century, preferably starting big before 2020
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Old Jews Telling Jokes
If we wait longer then this century to get all alright, then we have to wait REALLY long time ago before another time comes to make things so well, so fast, so easy way... as my self, might not also be for good help after century, not in to born again to often. but not feeling like going away for ever also, will see.. but lets get it all done now in this century, preferably starting big before 2020
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Old Jews Telling Jokes
16 February 2016 04:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
...
https://youtu.be/NXSsp2vvHjE
https://youtu.be/NXSsp2vvHjE
https://youtu.be/NXSsp2vvHjE
16 February 2016 04:12
Margus Meigo commented on Ahmed Mukhthar Yacoob's photo.
also shamanism and naturalism supporter, it come from Sumerians,
and Vatican has started to share information about that, be prepared.
They also got proper documentation collected non stop by world most advanced agents, about deepest proofs and history related to Quran and intrigues..
saved in atomic safe locations,
copy in many places,
that will be handed to all the people once day needs so.
Also about black stone that we should perhaps worship not, as Allah commanded..
But let this day be a saving day, from getting more near to creator of all!
For feeling and thinking: Proverbs, Section 8
(Wisdom, smartness, intelligence is in original language a Female, long before Earth was made)
and Vatican has started to share information about that, be prepared.
They also got proper documentation collected non stop by world most advanced agents, about deepest proofs and history related to Quran and intrigues..
saved in atomic safe locations,
copy in many places,
that will be handed to all the people once day needs so.
Also about black stone that we should perhaps worship not, as Allah commanded..
But let this day be a saving day, from getting more near to creator of all!
For feeling and thinking: Proverbs, Section 8
(Wisdom, smartness, intelligence is in original language a Female, long before Earth was made)
16 February 2016 04:08
Margus Meigo commented on Ahmed Mukhthar Yacoob's photo.
The old testament is what Christians fallow,
it is Matriarchyhial, Vegetarianism supporter, high level monogamy supporter.
it is Matriarchyhial, Vegetarianism supporter, high level monogamy supporter.
16 February 2016 04:04
Margus Meigo commented on Ahmed Mukhthar Yacoob's post.
This is proper important point
16 February 2016 03:50
Margus Meigo replied to Ahmed Mukhthar Yacoob's comment.
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isreal is keeping Jews in prison basically,
communists... doing that, aka Roman-Greek Empire roots16 February 2016 03:45
Margus Meigo replied to Ahmed Mukhthar Yacoob's comment.
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and you know, that these people who do not have Beard,
and who does not preach Torah... are not really Jews but often against them?16 February 2016 03:44
Margus Meigo replied to Ahmed Mukhthar Yacoob's comment.
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so these people, who are on the Protestant side,
are often in great truble16 February 2016 03:43
Margus Meigo replied to Ahmed Mukhthar Yacoob's comment.
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you do know that MARTHIN lUTHER is like a Lutsifer on Christina eyes right ?16 February 2016 03:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei noh, eesti meedia mõttes kuulus,
ega mees siis ei saa olla ju suur nõid päriselt.,..
ega mees siis ei saa olla ju suur nõid päriselt.,..
16 February 2016 02:34
Margus Meigo replied to Ernest M. Saenz's comment.
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no beard,
that's why he needs still help of wand and spirits16 February 2016 02:32
Margus Meigo commented on Mike Jagow's post.
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Vatican agrees, that first man was not able to reproduce, on Sumerian time
time when female was known to be in one with God https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3zZlmwJRtE&app=desktophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3zZlmwJRtE&app=desktop
16 February 2016 02:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kas need rätikupead mitte need pole kes igast matemaatika, kirjakunsti, alkeemia ja paljude muude asjadega sügavamalt enne greeklasi tegelesid ?
16 February 2016 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Kuidas selle loo nimi on , lüürikad ?
16 February 2016 01:04
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Mõelda vaid, kui ta kõike seda Eesti rahvusriietes, või mingis muus linases rõivas oleks teinud kuidagi... vähemalt ilma lipsuta..
16 February 2016 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Fontaine's post.
i got middle of Estonia Christmas winter in my room colorful butterfly and also in another time other side of Estonia, in January had same kind of butterfly, have picture and video of her...
https://plus.google.com/photos/102871056968914830739/albums/6079008631457663313/6088689843403378386?pid=6088689843403378386&oid=102871056968914830739
https://plus.google.com/photos/102871056968914830739/albums/6079008631457663313/6088689843403378386?pid=6088689843403378386&oid=102871056968914830739
https://plus.google.com/photos/102871056968914830739/albums/6079008631457663313/6088689843403378386?pid=6088689843403378386&oid=102871056968914830739
16 February 2016 00:15
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Fontaine's photo.
I meet dragon in my room, but just the eye of the dragon was bigger then hen egg
16 February 2016 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Fontaine's photo.
Yes, some of them can be real also : )
16 February 2016 00:09
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Fontaine's photo.
here more:
https://uk.pinterest.com/lorecreates/dragons/
https://uk.pinterest.com/lorecreates/dragons/
https://uk.pinterest.com/lorecreates/dragons/
16 February 2016 00:08
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Fontaine's photo.
or:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/71/5f/45/715f45e78e707c947c98576d9aab7da7.jpg
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16 February 2016 00:07
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Fontaine's photo.
or:
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16 February 2016 00:07
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Fontaine's photo.
Maybe interesting:
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16 February 2016 00:06
Margus Meigo commented on Rain Haugas's post.
muidugi, mitte et kellegile meeldiks kui neid keskerakonna kandoomiks nimetada (millega teisi eesti erakondi...)
kuid tõde ju seegi, mille avastamine varakult annab suurt edu. Edu aga ei saa nagu teismeline punk vanade olijate, kes siin hinge alles hoidnud mitmel tasemel, nende vastu sõnu loopides, ise oma seljataga samamoodi zomisi või roboteid omades, tööriistu kes lipsud ees slooganied pilluvad ja armastuses liikuda ei mõista. , kelle kraaksumine on küll õigete sõnadega vast kuid ilma aluspõhja ja ilma vaimu väe jõuta.
Selle vana mehe sõnad talle olid tugevad ja õiged.. et nad aru saaks millega nad mängivad.. kuid aks nad said ? Kas nad said aru ,et Eestlus tähendba nende "vastaspooltega" jõudes Eestlaslikule kokkuleppele, neile selgeks tehes, kuidas on. Mitte aga poliitiliste reeglitega mänge mängides.
Kui ma poliitilisel areenil olen, siis hakkan küll inimesi metsa viima, kes otseselt riigile vastu toimetab ja ülbelt koostööd ega praktilist arutust ei soovi. Et seda ülbust karastada sutsu, kuid meeldivalt, nii, et see inimene austaks hiljem kui ta alles jääb.
Need umbes 70 000 eestlast mei lsiin riigis kes alles jäänud ,saaksid kogu selle karja reguleerimisega hakkama küll, kui juudi kombel korralikult koostööd tegema hakkame, mis tõel põhineb
kuid tõde ju seegi, mille avastamine varakult annab suurt edu. Edu aga ei saa nagu teismeline punk vanade olijate, kes siin hinge alles hoidnud mitmel tasemel, nende vastu sõnu loopides, ise oma seljataga samamoodi zomisi või roboteid omades, tööriistu kes lipsud ees slooganied pilluvad ja armastuses liikuda ei mõista. , kelle kraaksumine on küll õigete sõnadega vast kuid ilma aluspõhja ja ilma vaimu väe jõuta.
Selle vana mehe sõnad talle olid tugevad ja õiged.. et nad aru saaks millega nad mängivad.. kuid aks nad said ? Kas nad said aru ,et Eestlus tähendba nende "vastaspooltega" jõudes Eestlaslikule kokkuleppele, neile selgeks tehes, kuidas on. Mitte aga poliitiliste reeglitega mänge mängides.
Kui ma poliitilisel areenil olen, siis hakkan küll inimesi metsa viima, kes otseselt riigile vastu toimetab ja ülbelt koostööd ega praktilist arutust ei soovi. Et seda ülbust karastada sutsu, kuid meeldivalt, nii, et see inimene austaks hiljem kui ta alles jääb.
Need umbes 70 000 eestlast mei lsiin riigis kes alles jäänud ,saaksid kogu selle karja reguleerimisega hakkama küll, kui juudi kombel korralikult koostööd tegema hakkame, mis tõel põhineb
16 February 2016 00:00
Margus Meigo commented on Rain Haugas's post.
lõputuenesesalgamine...
Nad muidu mind bännisid oma grupist ära, säh sul sõna vabadust.
Olgugi, et ma nende paranduseks sõna võtsin
Nad muidu mind bännisid oma grupist ära, säh sul sõna vabadust.
Olgugi, et ma nende paranduseks sõna võtsin
15 February 2016 23:51
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
(by using in combination with other kind of drugs, it is also great tool to transfer spirits from host body to a new system, aka stealing soul)
basically
basically
15 February 2016 22:44
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
Karl Kaljulaid yes they can, it is called Ketamine
15 February 2016 22:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ehk siis maakeeli ?
15 February 2016 22:28
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
was contacting, that does he want to get to know, what we say about him, so he can reply proper
15 February 2016 22:22
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
Karl Kaljulaid am working on that, translation thing.
Was contacting with the black one sent out from Sweden for working to much, but he was to shy to reply
Was contacting with the black one sent out from Sweden for working to much, but he was to shy to reply
15 February 2016 22:22
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
law should be, ONLY women and (man) children below 12,
and religiously clean people showing skills on language and having no addictions to meat or alcohol, smoking.
They first.. then rest of the line by the standard...
these guys stepping over children and women, and leaving garbage around.. them should be assassinated on spot or send back if they still seem to be actually humans but just a bit retarded or grown up wrong,
This should be basic info they will have before coming, that this is land of these kind of freaks. on highest standard.
but the ones of angry, violent decency (if assassination would be not option) should be tattooed with laser on hand and made psychedelic sacrament on mega dosages. - small price to pay on this serious situation. where other option would be ending of life.
As they should understand, that them is taken as spiritual infiltrators, nothing personal. Maybe their grandfather made a sin that got them in to situation.. anyone getting cough of disrespecting children or women should be dealt immediately.
Women them self should sort out snakes between them self, and got all support they need, to deal with criminal women who do not agree to take psychedelic sacrament for spiritual cleaning. Sacraments have to be directed in a proper direction where human can not interfere with their own low spirit agendas.
and them should be instructed to set up protection camps and cleaning camps so they would filter out criminals (the ones not respecting the nature) .. after working in this camp for 3 months or more proper., one can be re asking to try to return to Europe, as a someone who has returned great benefit and service to our lands, by filtering out harmful ones.
all fight between them self and us should stop, enforced to stop, huge resources on re cleaning camps on the borders of these lands. War resources send on fly helicopters that see people being loaded on boats, the human smuggling business should be allowed (as in the end they do good also, by saving the ones who need to escape) but them should be forced in co-operation by filtering out who they let in boat or letting know of coming boat and the ones on the boat...
there is to many criminals and money on that business to just just try to shut them down or eliminate, as criminals will stay alive if they provide something what is needed for people ,and they do.
But as with only criminal drug sales, with no co operation or control, the situation comes out much worst (bad types of drugs, bad price, bad cleanness), as there is no control then and worst kind of savages then can be sent to Europe, as weapons. Besides biological weapons later.
Gov should even help these smugglers by offering them a products and instructions what they should share to a ones in boat "how to be a human (according to Europeans, Estonia revision)"
In instructions would be talk about farming and building houses ,that every normal human should do, that we have enough wasted sperm here in our own skin that need to be eliminated, no need extra the same kind of problem so they can be used as propaganda against other proper immigrants, good humans, who deserve perfect life and who has something to offer to us, to world, and who like to go back to their land, once it is on order, taking with them good experience from here.
I wrote that in English, to especially scratch my international friends, and for future, that someone is using that for blame perhaps, so i can answer more deeper.
and religiously clean people showing skills on language and having no addictions to meat or alcohol, smoking.
They first.. then rest of the line by the standard...
these guys stepping over children and women, and leaving garbage around.. them should be assassinated on spot or send back if they still seem to be actually humans but just a bit retarded or grown up wrong,
This should be basic info they will have before coming, that this is land of these kind of freaks. on highest standard.
but the ones of angry, violent decency (if assassination would be not option) should be tattooed with laser on hand and made psychedelic sacrament on mega dosages. - small price to pay on this serious situation. where other option would be ending of life.
As they should understand, that them is taken as spiritual infiltrators, nothing personal. Maybe their grandfather made a sin that got them in to situation.. anyone getting cough of disrespecting children or women should be dealt immediately.
Women them self should sort out snakes between them self, and got all support they need, to deal with criminal women who do not agree to take psychedelic sacrament for spiritual cleaning. Sacraments have to be directed in a proper direction where human can not interfere with their own low spirit agendas.
and them should be instructed to set up protection camps and cleaning camps so they would filter out criminals (the ones not respecting the nature) .. after working in this camp for 3 months or more proper., one can be re asking to try to return to Europe, as a someone who has returned great benefit and service to our lands, by filtering out harmful ones.
all fight between them self and us should stop, enforced to stop, huge resources on re cleaning camps on the borders of these lands. War resources send on fly helicopters that see people being loaded on boats, the human smuggling business should be allowed (as in the end they do good also, by saving the ones who need to escape) but them should be forced in co-operation by filtering out who they let in boat or letting know of coming boat and the ones on the boat...
there is to many criminals and money on that business to just just try to shut them down or eliminate, as criminals will stay alive if they provide something what is needed for people ,and they do.
But as with only criminal drug sales, with no co operation or control, the situation comes out much worst (bad types of drugs, bad price, bad cleanness), as there is no control then and worst kind of savages then can be sent to Europe, as weapons. Besides biological weapons later.
Gov should even help these smugglers by offering them a products and instructions what they should share to a ones in boat "how to be a human (according to Europeans, Estonia revision)"
In instructions would be talk about farming and building houses ,that every normal human should do, that we have enough wasted sperm here in our own skin that need to be eliminated, no need extra the same kind of problem so they can be used as propaganda against other proper immigrants, good humans, who deserve perfect life and who has something to offer to us, to world, and who like to go back to their land, once it is on order, taking with them good experience from here.
I wrote that in English, to especially scratch my international friends, and for future, that someone is using that for blame perhaps, so i can answer more deeper.
15 February 2016 22:20
Margus Meigo replied to Karl Kaljulaid's comment.
to be fair, many of them are pretty evil, by design, and to get them here is one of the plans.. by using children and women behind, between who they come..
15 February 2016 21:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Rain Haugas vot selle peale peab juba mõtlema
15 February 2016 21:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidugi need kes veel elavad FarmWille maailmas, reeglite vabas maailmas... nead arvavad, et pole jäävaid seadusi ja tõde (ning samas ei suuda aru saada, et nad ka flat earthis elada võivad vabalt siis, sest kõvaketas vägagi lame saab olla, mis Google Earthy kenasti ära mahutab kos SimCitidega......)
15 February 2016 21:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ei, teeside monopol ei tähenda, et tegu on "kellegi arvamusega" (ainult)
saab ka olla, et tegu on asjadega mis on nii ja sellest lähtuvalt, need kes alles jääda soovivad, või kes aru saavad kuidas mõeld,a arvavad samamoodi.
Kuid see ei tee asju selleks, et nad nii arvavad, vaid nad on aru saanud mida õigestiarvata, või aru saada
saab ka olla, et tegu on asjadega mis on nii ja sellest lähtuvalt, need kes alles jääda soovivad, või kes aru saavad kuidas mõeld,a arvavad samamoodi.
Kuid see ei tee asju selleks, et nad nii arvavad, vaid nad on aru saanud mida õigestiarvata, või aru saada
15 February 2016 21:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
monotheism is how it is everything else can not even be called offshoot but still just a genetic or energetic disorder, Earthly expressing as intellectual disability, lack of aristocratic principles
but just being focused as monotheism by it self is not enough as a commies (the ones perverted, affected by spirits that use Pentagram for example ) for them a cosmic computer can end up to be as final "everything" who can provide them with all the virtual worlds they desire (up to the point, it is unplugged... or in a case of homo worlds (the ones outside that dimension here).. once their genes run of and they can not use female anymore to keep their genes alive... they also will go.. as the lack of spirit inside blood is terminating their destination, no software helps here, or hardware other then this what is provided by most high )
but just being focused as monotheism by it self is not enough as a commies (the ones perverted, affected by spirits that use Pentagram for example ) for them a cosmic computer can end up to be as final "everything" who can provide them with all the virtual worlds they desire (up to the point, it is unplugged... or in a case of homo worlds (the ones outside that dimension here).. once their genes run of and they can not use female anymore to keep their genes alive... they also will go.. as the lack of spirit inside blood is terminating their destination, no software helps here, or hardware other then this what is provided by most high )
15 February 2016 21:20
Margus Meigo replied to Anthony Kells's comment.
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(lol, can You imagine, if ANYONE in world would find a ANY evidence, that my point of view can EVER be less then most right on current spot and time... Hmm.. what a day it would be, .... of-course, i would just pick that up, would thank, and would keep up in to the direction of real truth, as... truth is : Be Good ! )15 February 2016 21:02
Margus Meigo replied to Anthony Kells's comment.
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Peter, right pick but wrong person, It is for YOU meant to be, this reading.
Clad You found it, fits perfectly!15 February 2016 21:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In the movierecomendation1 is the whole spectrum of deepness that one need to take in to account, and in BigShoot is just a one cue , that also needed
15 February 2016 20:59
Margus Meigo replied to Veronika Barek's comment.
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One must try much harder to be over my head15 February 2016 20:54
Margus Meigo replied to Veronika Barek's comment.
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again, it is faggody to imagine in your head about broken butts, get your head straight !
You have yes, intuition of good will in your comment, but it is just this kind of slogans religious ones who lost their faith like to stroke them self to keep living in sin15 February 2016 20:53
Margus Meigo replied to Tez Lopez's comment.
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Family lover, proper direction!
But still looking as a bit of Hispanic mafia feel in it, but proper high level criminals are in my book anyway better position then average ones who want to live as a scum with no honor and lack of respect for nature and all15 February 2016 20:49
Margus Meigo replied to Tez Lopez's comment.
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This is amazing.. seriously. as You come out as a psychedelic lover hippie kind .. this is truly awesome!
I think psychedelics are one of the strongest cures to get people in to direction, of same kind of understandings as real region core is
(but core is still needed at times, to know how to navigate)15 February 2016 20:45
Margus Meigo replied to David Sigler's comment.
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thanks man15 February 2016 20:41
Margus Meigo replied to David Sigler's comment.
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be careful about what yo u imagine and dream of15 February 2016 20:40
Margus Meigo replied to Veronika Barek's comment.
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it is retarded to say "if god is..:"
What kind of other silly conclusions you bring up blaming creation on Your mistakes you help step by step ?
Do you buy crap food? Buy deodorants ? Buy or look violent movies just for fun? Listen bad music just for listening not studying how to stop that perversion that is done on music ? Do You allow people throw garbage on the ground, like cigarettes and allow them to smoke ?
Do You allow someone talk bad jokes about women that make Her seem less then most holiest?
Do you think man and women is equal and there is no difference between homos and straights?
If Yes, then YOU are the ones who is to blame on ALL these deaths, rapes and murders, in past and in future, Get responsibility and start to support LESS these powers who are able to do these things because people like-to eat meat just for fun and jack of on any kind of porn. Not even try to choose a bit more moral kind of porn where you do not have to look other guys dicks and pretend it is hetero thing as he basteres women there15 February 2016 20:39
Margus Meigo replied to Tez Lopez's comment.
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Thinking that all versions of Christianity is the same is as thinking that all books or movies are same, as the are done in similar way and is called "a movie"
it is so small thinking,that it is hard to even debate on it as a starting point15 February 2016 20:33
Margus Meigo replied to Tez Lopez's comment.
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What kind of Religion ,what version of "Christianity" ?15 February 2016 20:32
Margus Meigo replied to Tez Lopez's comment.
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what kind of prison is that?15 February 2016 20:32
Margus Meigo replied to Josh Bellamy's comment.
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If you not even able to communicate with a birds, plants, flowers and spirits, move things in dreams and feel the future, then You MUST agree You are stuck in a lower level of spirit, you can only evolve higher by leaving behind all things that slow your progress (food is one of the main thing they use, the other sperms, to trick you to eat wrong food, .. and having sex in alcohol. as this will put you behind others in whole list of billions in multiple cubes )15 February 2016 20:29
Margus Meigo replied to Josh Bellamy's comment.
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real religion on becoming in understanding,
that ALL Your thought, touching of your penis, thinking of someone something You would not front of them openly and all that.. is OPEN, and easy to access, not just for good side.
this is BASIC15 February 2016 20:27
Margus Meigo replied to Josh Bellamy's comment.
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it is basically called Lutheratarianism...
as luhters are required to believe that what they do physically does not matter, they just have to think that they are forgiven and every time they do bad thy just repeat in mid, that all is alright and god/jesus must forgive them.. (and by legal rights asking right way for some period of time we must..) basically blackmailing and abusing holy Spirits,
but soon their joke will end
If Lutheranists are not agree to turn to matriarchy (and understand, that what they do matters) then they become bigger problem then Atheists who can be forgiven as they are in mental state of this ism,15 February 2016 20:26
Margus Meigo replied to Jacob Alexander Dahlka's comment.
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only if you do not understand what you talking about can you say so15 February 2016 20:21
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's photo.
Aga vaimselt vaadates, mida miks näidata prooviti?
Muidu kes see kuulus mees tele nõid oligi kelle seinalt see pilt pärit...
hetke mõtlesin juba, et Sina ise staarina sääl
Muidu kes see kuulus mees tele nõid oligi kelle seinalt see pilt pärit...
hetke mõtlesin juba, et Sina ise staarina sääl
15 February 2016 20:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so it is kind of joke in Estonia.. "yeah MI6 selfie agents.. what a intellectual threat.."
15 February 2016 20:08
Margus Meigo commented on Josh Bellamy's post.
But they did forget to mention, that the Camera the used,with what he become famous, was invented in Estonia 1930s but the joke is, the Bond used it wrong way - making selfies of him self all the time...
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Minox
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Minox
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Minox
15 February 2016 20:07
Margus Meigo commented on Josh Bellamy's post.
To count the times one sleep in a movies and shoot was childish low-level but many other facts was great. The real agent in WW2 and the trans perosn:
"Tula met Elias Fattal, a Jewish businessman, who was unaware of her history until he proposed marriage on St Valentine's Day 1988. When she told him, rather than rejecting her, he merely asked if she would convert to Judaism. She agreed..."
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Caroline_Cossey
"Tula met Elias Fattal, a Jewish businessman, who was unaware of her history until he proposed marriage on St Valentine's Day 1988. When she told him, rather than rejecting her, he merely asked if she would convert to Judaism. She agreed..."
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Caroline_Cossey
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Caroline_Cossey
15 February 2016 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"ateism on intellektuaalne puue"
"atheism is intellectual disability"
True that
"atheism is intellectual disability"
True that
15 February 2016 19:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja bioenergeetiline kah
15 February 2016 19:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Kõrgendatud biogeneetiline energia"
15 February 2016 19:22
Margus Meigo replied to Anthony Kells's comment.
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Peter Pace what proof to the one with Impaired Taste, with at times genetic taste disorder can have about good flavors ? Only proof this people can get, at best, is to look others and agree with them by using logic, at least.
But direction in to what direction logic is used, must be matriarchal that includes religion or you will be lost in mind.15 February 2016 19:13
Margus Meigo replied to Peter Pace's comment.
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I am sorry then, my mistake15 February 2016 19:05
Margus Meigo replied to Tom L. Wellborn's comment.
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To make wrong joke, one still is responsible for that15 February 2016 19:05
Margus Meigo replied to Tom L. Wellborn's comment.
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my level of humor is a bit higher, above Bill Hicks, George Carlin, Chris Rock level15 February 2016 19:04
Margus Meigo replied to Peter Pace's comment.
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I am talking about Atheist group, anyone who protects them, must take this in to account15 February 2016 19:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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and i know, many of us do this out of love and feeling pain in heart, wanting to help.. but if you do not take in to account, other people sometimes are not even a people but a atheism program (some also fro ma God side to test you) .. then you might end up hurting yourself, or even thing things about other person that hurts you, ... as it is a kind of war, ... and if you are tricked to think wrong against other one, then YOU will get punishment, not the silly one, who is already in suer15 February 2016 19:01
Margus Meigo replied to Peter Pace's comment.
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atheists are twisted, they even use this word "wicked" as a good thing, besides "good shit" and "motherf..." and all these.. so simple to see the diagnoses, is serious15 February 2016 18:59
Margus Meigo replied to Tom L. Wellborn's comment.
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rearranging the words does not make it truth, it matters how it is, this world here is a clinic basically
Welcome inmate15 February 2016 18:58
Margus Meigo replied to Tom L. Wellborn's comment.
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it is clear fact15 February 2016 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on Mike Jagow's post.
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Just for information, Christianity comes from Sumerian times, is Matriarchal and supports shamanism in cure, but as most people not know what are these 3 words.. so they have hard time..
As i told it is diagnoses, and no need to worry more, let just continue this fun my religious brothers and sisters, parents and kids, but remember: it is not fun to make to much fun of the mentally disadvantaged (aka atheists, even if they got PHD x 4 )15 February 2016 18:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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serious one , but curable.
And to argue with a crazy person, ...it can be wasteful for a spirit, but many believers do it for their own training and some for sport15 February 2016 18:54
Margus Meigo commented on Mike Jagow's post.
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Atheism is diagnoses15 February 2016 18:53
Margus Meigo replied to Tom L. Wellborn's comment.
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You can see what happened with a "Protestants" the ones who started to protest against a word..
Orthodox are the proper ones, and it is easy to see why. Also Mormons are good.
Thanks for that clarification.
About Hindu, there is need to see in India, what is statistics there.
And there is always the ones who lie them self to be in one or other group to hurt them .
And there is the ones who are in prison because of the religious honesty. These are the 1% probably.
Protestants, Luhterians is considered by real relgious people as ANTI RELIGIOUS, weapon against Christianty, ... they are the ones who was the "crusades" spirit, the jew hater Marthin Luther, and the ones who make alliance with nomands and payd soldiers to make massacre in europe, under relgious symbol, so later history would blame relgion..15 February 2016 18:53
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it is diagnoses15 February 2016 18:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i mean, TV guys went already.. no one is calling them to home to Fic TVs anymore.. as devices are different.. same way software's are getting pe
... well, all that on the time when am try to start up my own intelligent Software Wally ... welll.. to many years looking for a doors for implementing what should become, something that push big players to be correct and gives small ones honor they deserved .
... well, all that on the time when am try to start up my own intelligent Software Wally ... welll.. to many years looking for a doors for implementing what should become, something that push big players to be correct and gives small ones honor they deserved .
15 February 2016 07:00
Margus Meigo commented on Oliver Perli's photo.
pilt nagu filmist
15 February 2016 06:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and not really human based at all
15 February 2016 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on Carlton Peter Lee's post.
maybe them.. 07-Jul-2008 ... http://people.virginia.edu/~sfr/enam481/groupa/illumhist.html but still who started these things..
As You know.. it is not at all anything that is sayd yo know..
It is love based really, more then that
As You know.. it is not at all anything that is sayd yo know..
It is love based really, more then that
15 February 2016 01:43
Margus Meigo commented on Carlton Peter Lee's post.
Wonder, who wrote that text before this https://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=GC203XY&title=illuminati
Some one had to be a first..
Some one had to be a first..
https://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=GC203XY&title=illuminati
15 February 2016 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
St. Valentine is Roman Priest.
"One of the men who was to judge him in line with the Roman law at the time was a man called Asterius, whose daughter was blind. He was supposed to have prayed with and healed the young girl with such astonishing effect that Asterius himself became Christian as a result."
In the year 269 AD, Valentine was sentenced to a three part execution of a beating, stoning, and finally decapitation all because of his stand for Christian marriage. The story goes that the last words he wrote were in a note to Asterius' daughter. He inspired today's romantic missives by signing it, "from your Valentine."
"What Valentine means to me as a priest," explains Father O'Gara, "is that there comes a time where you have to lay your life upon the line for what you believe. And with the power of the Holy Spirit we can do that -- even to the point of death."
"The idea of encouraging them to marry within the Christian church was what Valentine was about. And he secretly married them because of the edict."
Valentine was eventually caught, imprisoned and tortured for performing marriage ceremonies against command of Emperor Claudius the second. There are legends surrounding Valentine's actions while in prison
"I think we must bear in mind that it was a very permissive society in which Valentine lived," says Father O'Gara. "Polygamy would have been much more popular than just one woman and one man living together. And yet some of them seemed to be attracted to Christian faith. But obviously the church thought that marriage was very sacred between one man and one woman for their life and that it was to be encouraged. And so it immediately presented the problem to the Christian church of what to do about this."
"So on the day of the marriage they have to take that into context," Father O'Gara says. "Love -- human love and sexuality is wonderful, and blessed by God -- but also the shadow of the cross. That's what Valentine means to me."
http://www1.cbn.com/st-valentine-real-story
"One of the men who was to judge him in line with the Roman law at the time was a man called Asterius, whose daughter was blind. He was supposed to have prayed with and healed the young girl with such astonishing effect that Asterius himself became Christian as a result."
In the year 269 AD, Valentine was sentenced to a three part execution of a beating, stoning, and finally decapitation all because of his stand for Christian marriage. The story goes that the last words he wrote were in a note to Asterius' daughter. He inspired today's romantic missives by signing it, "from your Valentine."
"What Valentine means to me as a priest," explains Father O'Gara, "is that there comes a time where you have to lay your life upon the line for what you believe. And with the power of the Holy Spirit we can do that -- even to the point of death."
"The idea of encouraging them to marry within the Christian church was what Valentine was about. And he secretly married them because of the edict."
Valentine was eventually caught, imprisoned and tortured for performing marriage ceremonies against command of Emperor Claudius the second. There are legends surrounding Valentine's actions while in prison
"I think we must bear in mind that it was a very permissive society in which Valentine lived," says Father O'Gara. "Polygamy would have been much more popular than just one woman and one man living together. And yet some of them seemed to be attracted to Christian faith. But obviously the church thought that marriage was very sacred between one man and one woman for their life and that it was to be encouraged. And so it immediately presented the problem to the Christian church of what to do about this."
"So on the day of the marriage they have to take that into context," Father O'Gara says. "Love -- human love and sexuality is wonderful, and blessed by God -- but also the shadow of the cross. That's what Valentine means to me."
http://www1.cbn.com/st-valentine-real-story
http://www1.cbn.com/st-valentine-real-story
15 February 2016 00:27
Margus Meigo replied to Carlton Lee's comment.
fair enough, sometimes some one is for real about telling how it is
15 February 2016 00:25
Margus Meigo replied to Carlton Lee's comment.
True that
15 February 2016 00:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Okey, soon there is Law, i live in future
14 February 2016 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
okey there was still actually one main news, app, soft description that have slipped from my hands... will re find it.. it was kind of how it seemed for the wave of distraction coming to the mind after spotting it.. but we will see. . )
14 February 2016 23:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oh google.. only for Android one.. so you DID have app for that :p Why not share it out?
"You can listen to or record FM radio stations on your phone using the FM Radio app.
Before using the FM Radio app, you need to plug in earphones to use as a radio antenna.
Note: The FM Radio app is only available on Android One phones."
"To update the list of stations, touch the Refresh icon Refresh.
Scroll down to "All stations" and choose a station."
So all the basic was there:
"Record a station
Open the FM Radio app .
Select the station you want to record.
Touch the Menu icon More > Start recording.
To stop recording, touch the Stop button .
You'll be asked if you want to save the recording.
Listen to a recording
Open the Play Music app Google Play Music Icon.
From the top left, touch the Menu icon .
Touch My Library.
Select the album FM Recording.
Select the recording you want to listen to.
"
https://support.google.com/android-one/answer/6088899?hl=en
"You can listen to or record FM radio stations on your phone using the FM Radio app.
Before using the FM Radio app, you need to plug in earphones to use as a radio antenna.
Note: The FM Radio app is only available on Android One phones."
"To update the list of stations, touch the Refresh icon Refresh.
Scroll down to "All stations" and choose a station."
So all the basic was there:
"Record a station
Open the FM Radio app .
Select the station you want to record.
Touch the Menu icon More > Start recording.
To stop recording, touch the Stop button .
You'll be asked if you want to save the recording.
Listen to a recording
Open the Play Music app Google Play Music Icon.
From the top left, touch the Menu icon .
Touch My Library.
Select the album FM Recording.
Select the recording you want to listen to.
"
https://support.google.com/android-one/answer/6088899?hl=en
https://support.google.com/android-one/answer/6088899?hl=en
14 February 2016 23:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Sorry did not mean to sound critical. From your comment I deduct you want to sample (A/D) RF directly into your computer so you can do the demodulation and filtering digitally. In the world of DIY radio, Software Defined Radio (SDR for short) is all the rage these days. You can buy them commercially, in kit form or build e'm from scratch. For less than a cheap wall-mart radio you can buy a Softrock SDR kit and get into the game (http://www.wb5rvz.com/)"
http://www.wb5rvz.com/
14 February 2016 23:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Yeah, but this was just for fun, just to show people it's possible, nothing more :D. Police scanners are cheap nowadays, and hacking cell phones isn't exactly hard via bluetooth. A friend I have has actually inspired me to attempt to write a Linux driver for a PCIe, large spectrum radio antennae. Imagine the fun that could happen with that? Haha. Got a bit more ASM before I'm ready for that, though..."
14 February 2016 23:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Not sure which century this how-to was written in, but looking at the photo accompanying it I would guess towards the end of WWII. Most new and cheap radio receivers do not use capacitive/inductive resonator circuits you can toy with. Oh and by the way even if you can hack the cheap radio to receive in a higher or lower band, there is nothing interesting to listen to anymore as mobile phones, cordless phones, baby monitors, public safety and commercial broadcasts have either gone digital or are transmitting at microwave frequencies your hacked little radio just cannot get to, even if you hit it with a hammer. So, rather spend your money on a cheap radio scanner (also available at Wal-Mart) with which you can listen to many, many interesting things without having to hack anything"
14 February 2016 23:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
:D
"I usually do this with Wunder Radio on my iPod, but I had no idea you could do this on a real radio!"
"I usually do this with Wunder Radio on my iPod, but I had no idea you could do this on a real radio!"
14 February 2016 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kind of answers:
"Radios change which station they're listening to by adjusting a small, copper-looking wire coiled around a cylinder. When adjusted, the gaps between the coils in the copper wire become tighter or more separated depending on how the tuner knob is adjusted.
In order to hack your radio, here's what you need to do:
Turn the tuning knob on the outside of the radio.
Observe the mechanism connected to the tuning knob on the inside of the radio, while continuing to turn the knob. This will lead to your wire and cylinder that controls what frequency the radio is scanning.
Turn the radio on. If it doesn't turn on, make sure everything is connected properly.
Turn the volume up.
Pull and separate the wire that is on the cylinder. You should hear the static shift and warp, this means you are changing stations. Adjust the coil until you start hearing human-related sounds from the speakers.
Congratulations! You are listening to a broadcast that isn't supposed to be a broadcast.
http://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/how-to/hack-radio-pick-up-different-frequencies-including-law-enforcement-more-0132299/
"Radios change which station they're listening to by adjusting a small, copper-looking wire coiled around a cylinder. When adjusted, the gaps between the coils in the copper wire become tighter or more separated depending on how the tuner knob is adjusted.
In order to hack your radio, here's what you need to do:
Turn the tuning knob on the outside of the radio.
Observe the mechanism connected to the tuning knob on the inside of the radio, while continuing to turn the knob. This will lead to your wire and cylinder that controls what frequency the radio is scanning.
Turn the radio on. If it doesn't turn on, make sure everything is connected properly.
Turn the volume up.
Pull and separate the wire that is on the cylinder. You should hear the static shift and warp, this means you are changing stations. Adjust the coil until you start hearing human-related sounds from the speakers.
Congratulations! You are listening to a broadcast that isn't supposed to be a broadcast.
http://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/how-to/hack-radio-pick-up-different-frequencies-including-law-enforcement-more-0132299/
http://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/how-to/hack-radio-pick-up-different-frequencies-including-law-enforcement-more-0132299/
14 February 2016 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Common people wondering:
"I am wondering if its possible to expand the range of FM frequencies the N900 can receive. The US version FM receiver can tune approximately 87.5 MHz to 108 MHz.
What if you wanted to receive on frequencies below 87.5 MHz or above 108 MHz? I realize there is not much to listen to below or above the FM band, but directly above the FM band is the Air-traffic Controller frequencies (although they use AM modulation, not FM modulation which is what's used for standard FM radio). Any cheap RadioShack scanner can legally pick up these frequencies. I wonder if there is a file we can edit to change the receiving range of the FM tuner."
It should be possible to get lower frequencies then 87.5Mhz because that works in Japan!
"You bring up very good points. I do think it would be neat to tune outside of the regular FM radio band. Imagine if we could get the N900 working like a VHF/UHF scanner... of course then we'd need to figure out how to get some "squelch" in order to not get white noise when there is no signal...
Or, better yet, imagine getting the N900 to tune shortwave (2 MHz - 28 MHz)... then you could really call this device a "world" device since it would pick up shortwave broadcasts from all over the world... but that is highly highly unlikely, at least without hardware modifications. We don't have AM modulation, or USB (Upper Side Band) or LSB (Lower Side Band) which is required for shortware (HF) communication listening. If anyone on the board if an amateur radio operator (ham radio) they will know what I'm referring to.
Oh well, we can only dream on... . "
"https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=48866
(turning these dreams on common people)
(also these waves detection that change frequency or hop between few different ones in circle (also software circle turner) to avoid tuning in by normal devices )
"I am wondering if its possible to expand the range of FM frequencies the N900 can receive. The US version FM receiver can tune approximately 87.5 MHz to 108 MHz.
What if you wanted to receive on frequencies below 87.5 MHz or above 108 MHz? I realize there is not much to listen to below or above the FM band, but directly above the FM band is the Air-traffic Controller frequencies (although they use AM modulation, not FM modulation which is what's used for standard FM radio). Any cheap RadioShack scanner can legally pick up these frequencies. I wonder if there is a file we can edit to change the receiving range of the FM tuner."
It should be possible to get lower frequencies then 87.5Mhz because that works in Japan!
"You bring up very good points. I do think it would be neat to tune outside of the regular FM radio band. Imagine if we could get the N900 working like a VHF/UHF scanner... of course then we'd need to figure out how to get some "squelch" in order to not get white noise when there is no signal...
Or, better yet, imagine getting the N900 to tune shortwave (2 MHz - 28 MHz)... then you could really call this device a "world" device since it would pick up shortwave broadcasts from all over the world... but that is highly highly unlikely, at least without hardware modifications. We don't have AM modulation, or USB (Upper Side Band) or LSB (Lower Side Band) which is required for shortware (HF) communication listening. If anyone on the board if an amateur radio operator (ham radio) they will know what I'm referring to.
Oh well, we can only dream on... . "
"https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=48866
(turning these dreams on common people)
(also these waves detection that change frequency or hop between few different ones in circle (also software circle turner) to avoid tuning in by normal devices )
14 February 2016 23:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Cellular radio networks operate in one of three bands in the UK; 900 MHz, 1800 MHz and 2.2 GHz ,using two different technologies, GSM and UMTS. A little detail on these two technologies is given below:
GSM
Global system for Mobile Communications or Groupe Speciale Mobile.
The international, pan-European operating standard for the current generation of digital cellular mobile communications. It enables mobile phones to be used across national boundaries. In the UK this technology operates in the 900 MHz and 1800 MHz frequency bands.
RA publishes details of the technical requirements for GSM technology operating in the UK in the form of UK Interface Requirement [IR2014]
UMTS
Universal Mobile Telecommunication System
The next generation of mobile phone technology, expected to result in widespread use of video phones and access to multimedia information. In the UK this technology operates in 2 GHz region.
RA publishes details of the technical requirements for UMTS technology operating in the UK in the form of UK Interface Requirement [IR2019]
GSM
Global system for Mobile Communications or Groupe Speciale Mobile.
The international, pan-European operating standard for the current generation of digital cellular mobile communications. It enables mobile phones to be used across national boundaries. In the UK this technology operates in the 900 MHz and 1800 MHz frequency bands.
RA publishes details of the technical requirements for GSM technology operating in the UK in the form of UK Interface Requirement [IR2014]
UMTS
Universal Mobile Telecommunication System
The next generation of mobile phone technology, expected to result in widespread use of video phones and access to multimedia information. In the UK this technology operates in 2 GHz region.
RA publishes details of the technical requirements for UMTS technology operating in the UK in the form of UK Interface Requirement [IR2019]
14 February 2016 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Why can't one base station serve my town?
Radio spectrum is a precious natural resource with many different demands upon it (for example, radio and TV broadcasting, emergency communication, navigation aids etc). Consequently the amount made available to each mobile phone operator is limited and this means base stations can only carry a limited number of calls at any one time.
To accommodate the steadily increasing volume of users, network operators have to use the limited number of radio frequencies licensed to them to support the maximum number of mobile phone users. This is achieved by re-using any given radio frequency many times in a network and carefully controlling base station power so that signals arising in different parts of the network do not interfere with each other. This concept of frequency re-use is illustrated in figure 3. The cells are grouped into clusters, with the frequencies allocated to a particular cell within a cluster not being re-used until the corresponding cell in adjacent clusters. This gives a repeating pattern of cells and clusters which can be expanded to provide national coverage.
To increase the capacity of their networks, operators have to build additional base stations and thus reduce cell size. It is for this reason that one large base station cannot serve a whole town.
Figure 3: Frequency Re-use
Radio spectrum is a precious natural resource with many different demands upon it (for example, radio and TV broadcasting, emergency communication, navigation aids etc). Consequently the amount made available to each mobile phone operator is limited and this means base stations can only carry a limited number of calls at any one time.
To accommodate the steadily increasing volume of users, network operators have to use the limited number of radio frequencies licensed to them to support the maximum number of mobile phone users. This is achieved by re-using any given radio frequency many times in a network and carefully controlling base station power so that signals arising in different parts of the network do not interfere with each other. This concept of frequency re-use is illustrated in figure 3. The cells are grouped into clusters, with the frequencies allocated to a particular cell within a cluster not being re-used until the corresponding cell in adjacent clusters. This gives a repeating pattern of cells and clusters which can be expanded to provide national coverage.
To increase the capacity of their networks, operators have to build additional base stations and thus reduce cell size. It is for this reason that one large base station cannot serve a whole town.
Figure 3: Frequency Re-use
14 February 2016 23:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Cellular' Radio
Each base station provides radio coverage to a geographical area known as a cell. Base stations are connected to one another by central switching centres, which track calls and transfer them as the caller moves from one cell to the next. Diagram 2 below shows the cell structure of a mobile phone network1. An ideal network may be envisaged as consisting of a mesh of hexagonal cells, each with a base station at its centre. The cells overlap at the edges to ensure the mobile phone users always remain within range of a base station. Without sufficient base stations in the right locations, mobile phones will not work.
The size of each cell depends on three factors. First, the local terrain; radio signals are blocked by trees, hills and buildings. Second, the frequency band in which the network operates (in general, the higher the radio frequency, the smaller the cell). Third, the capacity (i.e. number of calls) needed in any given area. Base stations are typically spaced about 0.2-0.5 km in towns and 2-5 km apart in the countryside.
If a person with a mobile phone starts to moves out of one cell and into another, the controlling network hands over communications to the adjacent base station.
Figure 2: 'Cellular' Radio
Each base station provides radio coverage to a geographical area known as a cell. Base stations are connected to one another by central switching centres, which track calls and transfer them as the caller moves from one cell to the next. Diagram 2 below shows the cell structure of a mobile phone network1. An ideal network may be envisaged as consisting of a mesh of hexagonal cells, each with a base station at its centre. The cells overlap at the edges to ensure the mobile phone users always remain within range of a base station. Without sufficient base stations in the right locations, mobile phones will not work.
The size of each cell depends on three factors. First, the local terrain; radio signals are blocked by trees, hills and buildings. Second, the frequency band in which the network operates (in general, the higher the radio frequency, the smaller the cell). Third, the capacity (i.e. number of calls) needed in any given area. Base stations are typically spaced about 0.2-0.5 km in towns and 2-5 km apart in the countryside.
If a person with a mobile phone starts to moves out of one cell and into another, the controlling network hands over communications to the adjacent base station.
Figure 2: 'Cellular' Radio
14 February 2016 23:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
If the radio wave is to convey more information, such as speech or computer data etc., this information has to be added to the carrier wave in some way, a process known as modulation. The modulation process involves some feature of the carrier wave being varied in accordance with the information transmitted. For example, for AM (amplitude modulation) transmission, the electrical signal from a microphone produced by speech or music is used to vary the amplitude of the carrier wave, so that at any instant the size or amplitude of the Radio Frequency carrier wave is made proportional to the size of the electrical modulating signal. Figure 1 below demonstrates this concept.
14 February 2016 23:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://www.radio.gov.uk/
14 February 2016 23:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
A produces a Radio Frequency Allocation Information Sheet, which gives details of the types of services operating in any particular band. This can be obtained from our website.
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/ra/publication/ra_info/ra365.htm
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/ra/publication/ra_info/ra365.htm
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/ra/publication/ra_info/ra365.htm
14 February 2016 23:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More technical, interesting, easy:
" All electromagnetic radiation consists of oscillating electric and magnetic fields and the frequency, which is the number of times per second at which the wave oscillates, determines their properties and the use that can be made of them. Frequencies are measured in hertz or Hz, where 1 Hz is one oscillation per second, 1 kHz a thousand, 1 MHz is a million, and 1 GHz, is a thousand million. Frequencies between 30 kHz and 300 GHz are widely used for telecommunication, including broadcast radio and television, and comprise the radio frequency band.
In the UK, AM radio uses frequencies between about 180 kHz and 1.6 MHz, FM radio ranges from 88 to 108 MHz, and TV ranges from 470 to 854 MHz. Cellular mobile services operate within the frequency ranges 872-960 MHz, 1710-1875 MHz and 1920 - 2170 MHz. Waves at higher frequencies but within the RF region, up to 60 GHz, are referred to as microwaves and have a wide variety of uses. These include radar, telecommunication links, satellite communications, weather observation and medical diathermy.
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/ra/topics/mpsafety/school-audit/mobilework.htm
" All electromagnetic radiation consists of oscillating electric and magnetic fields and the frequency, which is the number of times per second at which the wave oscillates, determines their properties and the use that can be made of them. Frequencies are measured in hertz or Hz, where 1 Hz is one oscillation per second, 1 kHz a thousand, 1 MHz is a million, and 1 GHz, is a thousand million. Frequencies between 30 kHz and 300 GHz are widely used for telecommunication, including broadcast radio and television, and comprise the radio frequency band.
In the UK, AM radio uses frequencies between about 180 kHz and 1.6 MHz, FM radio ranges from 88 to 108 MHz, and TV ranges from 470 to 854 MHz. Cellular mobile services operate within the frequency ranges 872-960 MHz, 1710-1875 MHz and 1920 - 2170 MHz. Waves at higher frequencies but within the RF region, up to 60 GHz, are referred to as microwaves and have a wide variety of uses. These include radar, telecommunication links, satellite communications, weather observation and medical diathermy.
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/ra/topics/mpsafety/school-audit/mobilework.htm
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/ra/topics/mpsafety/school-audit/mobilework.htm
14 February 2016 23:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
“We can take out whatever we want,” he told WIRED. “That only depends on the malicious software that resides on the computer. If it is a keylogger, then you can take out whatever the user types.”
A 100-byte password file takes 8-10 seconds to transmit using their method, and a day’s worth of keystrokes takes up to 14 minutes to transmit this way. But a document just .5 megabytes in size can take up to 15 hours to transmit.
Extracting documents “would be very slow and it will take a long time,” Mimran acknowledges, “but this [demonstration] is just a proof-of-concept. I guess the bad people can make it more sophisticated.”
Indeed, the NSA catalogue of surveillance tools leaked last year, known as the ANT catalogue, describes something called the Cottonmouth-I, a hardware implant that resembles an ordinary USB plug except it has a tiny transceiver, called the HowlerMonkey, embedded in it for extracting data via RF signals. According to the New York Times, which published additional information about the Cottonmouth-I, the transceiver transmits the stolen data to a briefcase-sized NSA field station or relay station, called the Nightstand, which can be positioned up to eight miles away. Once the data is received by the relay station, it’s further transmitted to the NSA’s Remote Operations Center. Available since 2009, the Cottonmouth-1 is sold in packs of 50 for about $1 million.
This method of data extraction may have been used in Iran to siphon intelligence about the nuclear program there, the Times reports—perhaps in preparation for the Stuxnet attack, which sabotaged computers controlling centrifuges used to enrich uranium gas in Iran.
A USB plug, however, requires physical access to a targeted computer in the field or it requires the victim to unwittingly insert the USB plug into the computer before the transmission can occur. An alternative method to this, the leaked document notes, is embedding tiny circuit boards in the targeted computer to do the transmission. One way to compromise the machine would be to intercept new equipment enroute to a customer so that it arrives to the victim already equipped to transmit stolen data. According to the document published by the Times, the RF transceiver can also be used to implant malware on a targeted system, not just extract data from it.
Radio frequency hacks are difficult to mitigate, short of physically insulating computers and cables to prevent emissions from being picked up by receivers. This may be practical for military and other classified facilities to do, but not for commercial companies that are trying to protect sensitive data from such attacks. Prohibiting mobile phones from work areas will not help, since outside receivers can be used in place of mobile phones to extract data.
“We’re disclosing there is this danger,” Mimran says, “but the biggest problem that we are really working hard on is finding mitigation for that. From preliminary results, it’s not easy.”
A 100-byte password file takes 8-10 seconds to transmit using their method, and a day’s worth of keystrokes takes up to 14 minutes to transmit this way. But a document just .5 megabytes in size can take up to 15 hours to transmit.
Extracting documents “would be very slow and it will take a long time,” Mimran acknowledges, “but this [demonstration] is just a proof-of-concept. I guess the bad people can make it more sophisticated.”
Indeed, the NSA catalogue of surveillance tools leaked last year, known as the ANT catalogue, describes something called the Cottonmouth-I, a hardware implant that resembles an ordinary USB plug except it has a tiny transceiver, called the HowlerMonkey, embedded in it for extracting data via RF signals. According to the New York Times, which published additional information about the Cottonmouth-I, the transceiver transmits the stolen data to a briefcase-sized NSA field station or relay station, called the Nightstand, which can be positioned up to eight miles away. Once the data is received by the relay station, it’s further transmitted to the NSA’s Remote Operations Center. Available since 2009, the Cottonmouth-1 is sold in packs of 50 for about $1 million.
This method of data extraction may have been used in Iran to siphon intelligence about the nuclear program there, the Times reports—perhaps in preparation for the Stuxnet attack, which sabotaged computers controlling centrifuges used to enrich uranium gas in Iran.
A USB plug, however, requires physical access to a targeted computer in the field or it requires the victim to unwittingly insert the USB plug into the computer before the transmission can occur. An alternative method to this, the leaked document notes, is embedding tiny circuit boards in the targeted computer to do the transmission. One way to compromise the machine would be to intercept new equipment enroute to a customer so that it arrives to the victim already equipped to transmit stolen data. According to the document published by the Times, the RF transceiver can also be used to implant malware on a targeted system, not just extract data from it.
Radio frequency hacks are difficult to mitigate, short of physically insulating computers and cables to prevent emissions from being picked up by receivers. This may be practical for military and other classified facilities to do, but not for commercial companies that are trying to protect sensitive data from such attacks. Prohibiting mobile phones from work areas will not help, since outside receivers can be used in place of mobile phones to extract data.
“We’re disclosing there is this danger,” Mimran says, “but the biggest problem that we are really working hard on is finding mitigation for that. From preliminary results, it’s not easy.”
14 February 2016 23:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The researchers note that the chain of attack “is rather complicated,” but it’s not beyond the skills and abilities already seen in advanced attacks conducted by hackers in China and elsewhere. Or by the NSA.
Generally the most common method for infecting air-gapped machines is a USB flash drive or other removable media. Once one air-gapped machine is infected, the malware can spread to other machines on an air-gapped network. Data can be extracted the same way, though this is more of a challenge. The malware stores stolen data on the machine until a flash drive is inserted, at which point data is copied to the drive. When the flash drive is then inserted into another computer that’s connected to the internet, the data gets transmitted back to the attackers’ command-and-control center. This method takes time, however, since it requires the attacker to wait until someone inserts a flash drive into the air-gapped machine and carries it to an internet-connected machine.
AirHopper, however, doesn’t require repeated action like this once the malware is installed. An attacker only needs to get their malicious transmitter code onto the targeted machine and then either install the malicious receiver component on the victim’s mobile phone or use the attacker’s own mobile phone in the vicinity of the computer to receive the data and transmit it to the attacker’s command-and-control server. The malware can be programmed to store siphoned data on the infected machine for later transmission at specified hours or intervals. The researchers also devised methods for hiding the data transmission on the targeted machine to avoid detection, including transmitting data only when the monitor is turned off or in sleep mode and altering the FM receiver on the phone so that there is no audible tone when data is transmitted to it.
Although the distance for transmitting data from an infected computer to a mobile phone is limited—due to the limitations of the receiver in phones—attackers could use a stronger portable receiver, set up in a parking lot for example or installed on a drone flying overhead, to pick up data from greater distances.
There are other limitations, however. The proof-of-concept test allows for data to be transmitted at only 60 bytes a second—about a line of text per second—which limits the speed and volume at which attackers could siphon data. But Mimran notes that over time, a lot of sensitive data can still be extracted this way.
https://youtu.be/2OzTWiGl1rM
Generally the most common method for infecting air-gapped machines is a USB flash drive or other removable media. Once one air-gapped machine is infected, the malware can spread to other machines on an air-gapped network. Data can be extracted the same way, though this is more of a challenge. The malware stores stolen data on the machine until a flash drive is inserted, at which point data is copied to the drive. When the flash drive is then inserted into another computer that’s connected to the internet, the data gets transmitted back to the attackers’ command-and-control center. This method takes time, however, since it requires the attacker to wait until someone inserts a flash drive into the air-gapped machine and carries it to an internet-connected machine.
AirHopper, however, doesn’t require repeated action like this once the malware is installed. An attacker only needs to get their malicious transmitter code onto the targeted machine and then either install the malicious receiver component on the victim’s mobile phone or use the attacker’s own mobile phone in the vicinity of the computer to receive the data and transmit it to the attacker’s command-and-control server. The malware can be programmed to store siphoned data on the infected machine for later transmission at specified hours or intervals. The researchers also devised methods for hiding the data transmission on the targeted machine to avoid detection, including transmitting data only when the monitor is turned off or in sleep mode and altering the FM receiver on the phone so that there is no audible tone when data is transmitted to it.
Although the distance for transmitting data from an infected computer to a mobile phone is limited—due to the limitations of the receiver in phones—attackers could use a stronger portable receiver, set up in a parking lot for example or installed on a drone flying overhead, to pick up data from greater distances.
There are other limitations, however. The proof-of-concept test allows for data to be transmitted at only 60 bytes a second—about a line of text per second—which limits the speed and volume at which attackers could siphon data. But Mimran notes that over time, a lot of sensitive data can still be extracted this way.
https://youtu.be/2OzTWiGl1rM
14 February 2016 23:21
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The researchers tested two methods for transmitting digital data over audio signals but Audio Frequency-Shift Keying (A-FSK) turned out to be the most effective.
“[E]ach letter or character was keyed with different audio frequency,” they note in a paper released last week (.pdf) that describes their technique. “Using less than 40 distinct audio frequencies, we were able to encode simple textual data—both alphabetical and numerical. This method is very effective for transmitting short textual massages such as identifiers, key-stroking, keep-alive messages and notifications.”
The data can be picked up by a mobile phone up to 23 feet away and then transmitted over Wi-Fi or a cellular network to an attacker’s command-and-control server. The victim’s own mobile phone can be used to receive and transmit the stolen data, or an attacker lurking outside an office or lab can use his own phone to pick up the transmission.
“With appropriate software, compatible radio signals can be produced by a compromised computer, utilizing the electromagnetic radiation associated with the video display adapter,” the researchers write. “This combination, of a transmitter with a widely used mobile receiver, creates a potential covert channel that is not being monitored by ordinary security instrumentation.”
http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/air-hopper-malware-final-e-141029143252-conversion-gate01.pdf
“[E]ach letter or character was keyed with different audio frequency,” they note in a paper released last week (.pdf) that describes their technique. “Using less than 40 distinct audio frequencies, we were able to encode simple textual data—both alphabetical and numerical. This method is very effective for transmitting short textual massages such as identifiers, key-stroking, keep-alive messages and notifications.”
The data can be picked up by a mobile phone up to 23 feet away and then transmitted over Wi-Fi or a cellular network to an attacker’s command-and-control server. The victim’s own mobile phone can be used to receive and transmit the stolen data, or an attacker lurking outside an office or lab can use his own phone to pick up the transmission.
“With appropriate software, compatible radio signals can be produced by a compromised computer, utilizing the electromagnetic radiation associated with the video display adapter,” the researchers write. “This combination, of a transmitter with a widely used mobile receiver, creates a potential covert channel that is not being monitored by ordinary security instrumentation.”
http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/air-hopper-malware-final-e-141029143252-conversion-gate01.pdf
14 February 2016 23:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Video card: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/techreports/UCAM-CL-TR-577.pdf
14 February 2016 23:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The attack borrows in part from previous research showing how radio signals (.pdf) can be generated by a computer’s video card (.pdf). The researchers in Israel have developed malware that exploits this vulnerability by generating radio signals that can transmit modulated data that is then received and decoded by the FM radio receiver built into mobile phones. FM receivers come installed in many mobile phones as an emergency backup, in part, for receiving radio transmissions when the internet and cell networks are down. Using this function, however, attackers can turn a ubiquitous and seemingly innocuous device into an ingenious spy tool. Though a company or agency may think it has protected its air-gapped network by detaching it from the outside world, the mobile phones on employee desktops and in their pockets still provide attackers with a vector to reach classified and other sensitive data.
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/pet2004-fpd.pdf
So yeah.. that is not a good news on someones eyes
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/pet2004-fpd.pdf
So yeah.. that is not a good news on someones eyes
14 February 2016 23:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. Something more interesting:
"Dubbed “AirHopper” by the researchers at Cyber Security Labs at Ben Gurion University, the proof-of-concept technique allows hackers and spies to surreptitiously siphon passwords and other data from an infected computer using radio signals generated and transmitted by the computer and received by a mobile phone. The research was conducted by Mordechai Guri, Gabi Kedma, Assaf Kachlon, and overseen by their advisor Yuval Elovici.
http://www.wired.com/2014/11/airhopper-hack/
"Dubbed “AirHopper” by the researchers at Cyber Security Labs at Ben Gurion University, the proof-of-concept technique allows hackers and spies to surreptitiously siphon passwords and other data from an infected computer using radio signals generated and transmitted by the computer and received by a mobile phone. The research was conducted by Mordechai Guri, Gabi Kedma, Assaf Kachlon, and overseen by their advisor Yuval Elovici.
http://www.wired.com/2014/11/airhopper-hack/
14 February 2016 23:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Well, that becomes useful on some day
14 February 2016 23:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Cellular signals are Frequency Modulated, however they use different Digital Modulation techniques. Since, data is generated digitally, the carrier signal is modulated in a variety of measures ranging from GMSK (in the erstwhile 2nd Generation communications) ; CDMA with QPSK ( also in 2nd Generation) and to 16/64 QAM in 4G-LTE.
Now, GMSK, QPSK and QAM are all digital modulation techniques however, TDMA, FDMA and CDMA are all multiple access techniques. Multiple access techniques are a way of allowing multiple users to be able to access the radio resources at the same time. While TDMA creates time slots at which different users access the same channel, CDMA assigns orthogonoal codes to each user and so each users data is then mixed (in technical terms a Kronecker product is done) and then sent over the channel. These same codes are then used at the receiver to decipher the data. In layman's terms it is as if there are 2 sets of people in a room with each set talking in two different languages and either set of persons cannot understand what the other set of persons' language is but they are easily able to decode their own. Lastly FDMA allows different users on the same frequency using different frequency band allocations.
Coming to Wifi Signals: They allow for 16/64 QAM signals which is again a digital modulation technique. On the RF front they utilize the OFDM technique for robust and high speed communications. The 16/64 QAM techniques involve both phase and amplitude modulation, and each representative modulating symbol is able to carry information of 4/6 bits at a time and hence speeding up the data rate as well.
Now, GMSK, QPSK and QAM are all digital modulation techniques however, TDMA, FDMA and CDMA are all multiple access techniques. Multiple access techniques are a way of allowing multiple users to be able to access the radio resources at the same time. While TDMA creates time slots at which different users access the same channel, CDMA assigns orthogonoal codes to each user and so each users data is then mixed (in technical terms a Kronecker product is done) and then sent over the channel. These same codes are then used at the receiver to decipher the data. In layman's terms it is as if there are 2 sets of people in a room with each set talking in two different languages and either set of persons cannot understand what the other set of persons' language is but they are easily able to decode their own. Lastly FDMA allows different users on the same frequency using different frequency band allocations.
Coming to Wifi Signals: They allow for 16/64 QAM signals which is again a digital modulation technique. On the RF front they utilize the OFDM technique for robust and high speed communications. The 16/64 QAM techniques involve both phase and amplitude modulation, and each representative modulating symbol is able to carry information of 4/6 bits at a time and hence speeding up the data rate as well.
14 February 2016 23:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
WiFi actually refers to several standards, not a single standard. For this explanation I'll use IEEE 802.11n-2009 even though the newer 802.11ac is available. 802.11ac mostly just uses much more information-dense coding schemes.
In general, they're not AM (amplitude modulated) signals, but rather they're both amplitude and phase modulated -- that is, a hybrid of AM and phase-shift keying. Visualizing how information is received and interpreted is done using a constellation, or a phase/amplitude map with points indicating what phase and amplitude represents what data.
In general, they're not AM (amplitude modulated) signals, but rather they're both amplitude and phase modulated -- that is, a hybrid of AM and phase-shift keying. Visualizing how information is received and interpreted is done using a constellation, or a phase/amplitude map with points indicating what phase and amplitude represents what data.
14 February 2016 23:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
14 February 2016 23:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
14 February 2016 23:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mobile signals are either GSM or Code division multiple access. GSM usually sends information on the carrier frequency by Gaussian Minimum-shift keying, which is similar to frequency modulation in that data is encoded in the difference between the carrier frequency and the frequency at measure time, like so
14 February 2016 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Also great explanations:
"CDMA is a different beast. CDMA itself refers to how multiple users can get different data on the same communication channel. It's kind of nuts to explain how it's done, but essentially information strings can be orthogonal to each other, and as long as each user is getting an orthogonal piece of information they can all get information from the same bit of bandwidth at the same time. The RF stuff that CDMA is put on is Spread spectrum, meaning that the information is scattered across a broad range of frequencies instead of concentrated around one."
https://www.quora.com/Are-mobile-signals-FM-and-are-wifi-signals-AM
"CDMA is a different beast. CDMA itself refers to how multiple users can get different data on the same communication channel. It's kind of nuts to explain how it's done, but essentially information strings can be orthogonal to each other, and as long as each user is getting an orthogonal piece of information they can all get information from the same bit of bandwidth at the same time. The RF stuff that CDMA is put on is Spread spectrum, meaning that the information is scattered across a broad range of frequencies instead of concentrated around one."
https://www.quora.com/Are-mobile-signals-FM-and-are-wifi-signals-AM
https://www.quora.com/Are-mobile-signals-FM-and-are-wifi-signals-AM
14 February 2016 23:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Really good technical page about FM
http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/rf-technology-design/fm-reception/fm-demodulation-detection-overview.php
http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/rf-technology-design/fm-reception/fm-demodulation-detection-overview.php
http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/rf-technology-design/fm-reception/fm-demodulation-detection-overview.php
14 February 2016 23:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Helen Boaden, Director of BBC Radio, said: “There is an enduring love for radio and easy listening on the move is critical for this. This UK-led global partnership is a response to listeners’ demand for simple, charge-free radio in mobile phones.”"
14 February 2016 23:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The BBC is working with a coalition of global broadcasters - which includes UK commercial radio, the EBU, Clearchannel, Ibiquity, Emmis Interactive, NAB and Commercial Radio Australia - to research and develop ‘hybrid’ radio - a combination of internet and broadcast (DAB or FM) radio - for use in mobile phones.
New research commissioned by the BBC shows the majority of smartphone users want radio in their devices but have concerns around mobile data costs, battery use and reception issues when using streamed audio services.
It showed that people would value hybrid radio which brings together the strengths of broadcast radio - free-to-receive, robust reception and reliability - with the digital enhancements and interactivity of internet radio.
Nearly two thirds of the mobile phone owners surveyed found the idea of hybrid radio appealing and said it could be a deciding factor when faced with a choice between phones with similar specs.
Better reception coverage, longer battery life and reduced mobile data costs were recognised as key benefits for hybrid radio in mobile devices and would make a tangible difference to listening whilst on the move or in the car.
The coalition - under the banner of the Universal Smartphone Radio Project - has been discussing hybrid radio with mobile and technology manufacturers, and how to build the functionality into handsets."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2014/hybrid-radio
New research commissioned by the BBC shows the majority of smartphone users want radio in their devices but have concerns around mobile data costs, battery use and reception issues when using streamed audio services.
It showed that people would value hybrid radio which brings together the strengths of broadcast radio - free-to-receive, robust reception and reliability - with the digital enhancements and interactivity of internet radio.
Nearly two thirds of the mobile phone owners surveyed found the idea of hybrid radio appealing and said it could be a deciding factor when faced with a choice between phones with similar specs.
Better reception coverage, longer battery life and reduced mobile data costs were recognised as key benefits for hybrid radio in mobile devices and would make a tangible difference to listening whilst on the move or in the car.
The coalition - under the banner of the Universal Smartphone Radio Project - has been discussing hybrid radio with mobile and technology manufacturers, and how to build the functionality into handsets."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2014/hybrid-radio
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2014/hybrid-radio
14 February 2016 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The Norwegian Government said it will turn off its FM transmitters on January 11 2017."
It said that FM radio is the most reliable way of broadcasting emergency information during times of national crisis and by allowing access to it on smartphones would mean such messages could reach almost everyone, no matter where they are.
END OF THE ROAD FOR FM RADIO?
Norway has announced that it will be the first country in the world to switch off its FM radio signal.
With the ever expanding number of digital radio services and growing numbers of people choosing to listen to internet radio, it seems likely other countries will follow Norway's example.
The UK had planned to switch off its own FM service by 2018 but the plans were later shelved following objections from commercial radio stations.
It is now not expected to happen until sometime after 2020 when digital listeners are expected to outstrip those using analogue stations.
In the US, around 85 per cent of American adults still listen to AM/FM stations.
The NAB claims that the top 10 phones on the market already include radio chips that are not activated and would have little impact on battery life.
The National Association of Broadcasters (NAB) in the US, which has been one of the loudest campaigners on the issue, also warns that FM radio on mobile phones could prove vital in an emergency.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3054299/The-FM-radio-hidden-SMARTPHONE-Mobile-manufacturers-denying-users-chance-listen-radio-free.html
Again.. lets fallow the Norway.. knowing really well what kind of species lead minds of our species from there .
Why that cant be told in NEWS ?
It said that FM radio is the most reliable way of broadcasting emergency information during times of national crisis and by allowing access to it on smartphones would mean such messages could reach almost everyone, no matter where they are.
END OF THE ROAD FOR FM RADIO?
Norway has announced that it will be the first country in the world to switch off its FM radio signal.
With the ever expanding number of digital radio services and growing numbers of people choosing to listen to internet radio, it seems likely other countries will follow Norway's example.
The UK had planned to switch off its own FM service by 2018 but the plans were later shelved following objections from commercial radio stations.
It is now not expected to happen until sometime after 2020 when digital listeners are expected to outstrip those using analogue stations.
In the US, around 85 per cent of American adults still listen to AM/FM stations.
The NAB claims that the top 10 phones on the market already include radio chips that are not activated and would have little impact on battery life.
The National Association of Broadcasters (NAB) in the US, which has been one of the loudest campaigners on the issue, also warns that FM radio on mobile phones could prove vital in an emergency.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3054299/The-FM-radio-hidden-SMARTPHONE-Mobile-manufacturers-denying-users-chance-listen-radio-free.html
Again.. lets fallow the Norway.. knowing really well what kind of species lead minds of our species from there .
Why that cant be told in NEWS ?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3054299/The-FM-radio-hidden-SMARTPHONE-Mobile-manufacturers-denying-users-chance-listen-radio-free.html
14 February 2016 23:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
FEMA Administrator Craig Fugate has also argued that radio is critical in a crisis. "As more and more people use their smartphones as streaming devices to get news, get radio, get a lot of things like that over their networks, I don't think people realize how vulnerable they get," he says in a video for FreeRadioOnMyPhone .org, a collection of radio organizations that includes NPR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7DoPkkDFjM
https://www.fema.gov/leadership/william-craig-fugate
FreeRadioOnMyPhone.org
Counter:
"What Americans really want is the ability to stream, download and customize music playlists to meet their personal preferences," Carpenter said, according to the Las Vegas Review-Journal, "and that's not what the traditional FM radio offers."
Answer:
"What Americans really want is the ability to stream, download and customize music playlists to meet their personal preferences." No, what Americans really want are choices, and not people like you denying them features that they have paid for on their cell phones. It's called versatility.... If what you say is true, you can switch on those FM chips and it won't hurt your money grubbing business model to sell bandwidth one bit, will it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7DoPkkDFjM
https://www.fema.gov/leadership/william-craig-fugate
FreeRadioOnMyPhone.org
Counter:
"What Americans really want is the ability to stream, download and customize music playlists to meet their personal preferences," Carpenter said, according to the Las Vegas Review-Journal, "and that's not what the traditional FM radio offers."
Answer:
"What Americans really want is the ability to stream, download and customize music playlists to meet their personal preferences." No, what Americans really want are choices, and not people like you denying them features that they have paid for on their cell phones. It's called versatility.... If what you say is true, you can switch on those FM chips and it won't hurt your money grubbing business model to sell bandwidth one bit, will it?
14 February 2016 22:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More collection to the news:
""Listening to streaming drains your battery three to five times faster than listening to the exact same content on the FM chip," he says.
It's a critical resource in an emergency, he argues, when there is no Internet or cell system.
"When the power grid is out, the only lifeline for the American public is having an FM tuner," he says"
http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2015/04/16/400178385/the-hidden-fm-radio-inside-your-pocket-and-why-you-cant-use-it
""Listening to streaming drains your battery three to five times faster than listening to the exact same content on the FM chip," he says.
It's a critical resource in an emergency, he argues, when there is no Internet or cell system.
"When the power grid is out, the only lifeline for the American public is having an FM tuner," he says"
http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2015/04/16/400178385/the-hidden-fm-radio-inside-your-pocket-and-why-you-cant-use-it
http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2015/04/16/400178385/the-hidden-fm-radio-inside-your-pocket-and-why-you-cant-use-it
14 February 2016 22:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
As we see from a study, there is few who use it but in majorty of time, in most people they are by now unable to think is it FM or FM App that takes radio from internet.
(great forum talk under that also, from human expressions)
http://www.markramseymedia.com/2011/07/new-survey-shows-when-fm-is-built-in-to-mobile-phones-most-consumers-dont-use-it/
(great forum talk under that also, from human expressions)
http://www.markramseymedia.com/2011/07/new-survey-shows-when-fm-is-built-in-to-mobile-phones-most-consumers-dont-use-it/
14 February 2016 22:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This is the things we have to decide FOR the people and punch in a face of any one who want to step between this, just because.
If there would be serious study, that FM/AM signal is more harmful for You then WiFi, GPS, Bluteooth and Mobile, then this is would be another story,
This is nearly only analog tech that is left to us, Let it be
If there would be serious study, that FM/AM signal is more harmful for You then WiFi, GPS, Bluteooth and Mobile, then this is would be another story,
This is nearly only analog tech that is left to us, Let it be
14 February 2016 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And looking the five stars and horn sings on front page, this organization also might not be more help then a proxy collecting activists and if comes what must come, then painting self as advocates of it all.
Okey, perhaps they good but need to change some people in there for sure, that are actually counter productive, implanted for that.. spirit has spoken
"oday’s smartphones already have an FM receiver built in! This means that everyone could have easy access to radio for the entertainment they love and information they need, but those FM receivers are not activated by all wireless carriers and phone makers. FM radio doesn't require internet and won't drain your phone's battery. We need your help to send a message that free FM radio matters to you."
"Thanks to voices like yours, we are only one carrier away from having the support of all major US wireless carriers for FM chip activation in smartphones. So we're putting all of our effort now towards the one holdout: Verizon. But the big guns at Verizon won't act unless they hear from consumers like you.
Take Action Now by contacting Verizon and asking them to activate the FM chip in all smartphones, including yours!"
http://freeradioonmyphone.org/
Okey, perhaps they good but need to change some people in there for sure, that are actually counter productive, implanted for that.. spirit has spoken
"oday’s smartphones already have an FM receiver built in! This means that everyone could have easy access to radio for the entertainment they love and information they need, but those FM receivers are not activated by all wireless carriers and phone makers. FM radio doesn't require internet and won't drain your phone's battery. We need your help to send a message that free FM radio matters to you."
"Thanks to voices like yours, we are only one carrier away from having the support of all major US wireless carriers for FM chip activation in smartphones. So we're putting all of our effort now towards the one holdout: Verizon. But the big guns at Verizon won't act unless they hear from consumers like you.
Take Action Now by contacting Verizon and asking them to activate the FM chip in all smartphones, including yours!"
http://freeradioonmyphone.org/
http://freeradioonmyphone.org/
14 February 2016 22:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Atenna talk
http://forums.androidcentral.com/general-help-how/525101-what-app-plays-fm-am-using-radio-your-phone.html
well : )
http://forums.androidcentral.com/general-help-how/525101-what-app-plays-fm-am-using-radio-your-phone.html
well : )
http://forums.androidcentral.com/general-help-how/525101-what-app-plays-fm-am-using-radio-your-phone.html
14 February 2016 22:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Spirit1 is a real, tuned, "over the air" FM radio app. It is NOT a streaming app which requires expensive data plans and drains your battery.
RDS data display in App, Lock-screen & Notification window. RT, PS, PTY, PI & AF RadioText RT, Program Service PS, Program Type PTY, Program ID PI & Alternate Frequency AF.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mikersmicros.fm_unlock&hl=en
The focus of Spirit is on AOSP ROMs. If you don't know what AOSP is, Spirit is likely not the app for you, and you should stick with the stock FM app. Further details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50954346&postcount=7641
Satisfaction guaranteed or full refund. Cancel any time on request,
If you're an average phone user, & don't know what Android "rooting" is, Spirit will likely not offer you much more than your stock FM app. If your phone does not have a stock FM app, it is unlikely that Spirit will work on it.
Spirit is mostly for Android enthusiasts who "root" & "ROM" their phones. But it also works on many stock, "store bought" phones.
Spirit Unlocked includes:
- Digital audio features supported ONLY on: ROOTED Non-stock AOSP International Galaxy S/S2/S3/Note/Note2/Player, HTC One/OneXL/OneS/Evo 4G LTE/Xperia T and most Sony 2012+ devices.
- RDS data display in App, Lock-screen & Notification window. RT, PS, PTY, PI & AF RadioText RT, Program Service PS, Program Type PTY, Program ID PI & Alternate Frequency AF.
- Lock-screen & Wired Headset Media Button support for mute, preset, seek, volume & record.
- Many settings: Audio, UI, AF, Digital & Debug categories.
- Unlimited Presets & Preset Lists.
FAQ / Frequently Asked Questions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31983089
! IMPOSSIBLE Devices: ALL Nexus & MANY Samsung & other devices have FM purposely & unfixably disabled in hardware. No app can EVER fix that. Email for refund & explanation of Google's false "compatability" checking. NO FM for GALAXY S4/S5, Note3/Note4, Tab, All US Galaxy S/Note class phones, Motorola flagships, and MANY more"
RDS data display in App, Lock-screen & Notification window. RT, PS, PTY, PI & AF RadioText RT, Program Service PS, Program Type PTY, Program ID PI & Alternate Frequency AF.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mikersmicros.fm_unlock&hl=en
The focus of Spirit is on AOSP ROMs. If you don't know what AOSP is, Spirit is likely not the app for you, and you should stick with the stock FM app. Further details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50954346&postcount=7641
Satisfaction guaranteed or full refund. Cancel any time on request,
If you're an average phone user, & don't know what Android "rooting" is, Spirit will likely not offer you much more than your stock FM app. If your phone does not have a stock FM app, it is unlikely that Spirit will work on it.
Spirit is mostly for Android enthusiasts who "root" & "ROM" their phones. But it also works on many stock, "store bought" phones.
Spirit Unlocked includes:
- Digital audio features supported ONLY on: ROOTED Non-stock AOSP International Galaxy S/S2/S3/Note/Note2/Player, HTC One/OneXL/OneS/Evo 4G LTE/Xperia T and most Sony 2012+ devices.
- RDS data display in App, Lock-screen & Notification window. RT, PS, PTY, PI & AF RadioText RT, Program Service PS, Program Type PTY, Program ID PI & Alternate Frequency AF.
- Lock-screen & Wired Headset Media Button support for mute, preset, seek, volume & record.
- Many settings: Audio, UI, AF, Digital & Debug categories.
- Unlimited Presets & Preset Lists.
FAQ / Frequently Asked Questions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31983089
! IMPOSSIBLE Devices: ALL Nexus & MANY Samsung & other devices have FM purposely & unfixably disabled in hardware. No app can EVER fix that. Email for refund & explanation of Google's false "compatability" checking. NO FM for GALAXY S4/S5, Note3/Note4, Tab, All US Galaxy S/Note class phones, Motorola flagships, and MANY more"
14 February 2016 22:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Google told him, that GOOGLE do not have resources to pay to this activist genius who now doing the same out of home basically:
"I understand the price may seem high, but this is a niche app with 10,000 hours of work required over 3+ years. How many other "Real FM Radio" apps are on Google Play ? Almost none.
Why ? Because Android FM is extremely difficult. Google doesn't support FM radio and carriers suppress it. Intensive reverse engineering is required. In the over 3 years since Spirit was first created, nobody else has been "crazy" enough to attempt to compete in this niche (OTA radio) within a niche (AOSP ROMs) or without (all phones with usable FM).
Spirit is not a throwaway game app you play for a few days. How many hours will you spend listening to FM radio in the next several years ?
How much can you save on data plans by listening to free, over the air radio versus streaming ?
If you care about app quality, note CNet article "We're not paying enough for apps": http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23568502&postcount=2523
I'm one developer and Spirit is my only substantial app and income. I'm trying to do a job Google said they couldn't for lack of developer resources. :)
Your support for Spirit is appreciated.
For tons of further info, and links to free test versions, please see my XDA section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/spirit-fm"
"I understand the price may seem high, but this is a niche app with 10,000 hours of work required over 3+ years. How many other "Real FM Radio" apps are on Google Play ? Almost none.
Why ? Because Android FM is extremely difficult. Google doesn't support FM radio and carriers suppress it. Intensive reverse engineering is required. In the over 3 years since Spirit was first created, nobody else has been "crazy" enough to attempt to compete in this niche (OTA radio) within a niche (AOSP ROMs) or without (all phones with usable FM).
Spirit is not a throwaway game app you play for a few days. How many hours will you spend listening to FM radio in the next several years ?
How much can you save on data plans by listening to free, over the air radio versus streaming ?
If you care about app quality, note CNet article "We're not paying enough for apps": http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23568502&postcount=2523
I'm one developer and Spirit is my only substantial app and income. I'm trying to do a job Google said they couldn't for lack of developer resources. :)
Your support for Spirit is appreciated.
For tons of further info, and links to free test versions, please see my XDA section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/spirit-fm"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23568502&postcount=2523
14 February 2016 22:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Spirit1 and Spirit2 are real, tuned, over-the-air FM radio apps for Android. They do not require Internet access.
Spirit Unlocked: RDS, Media Buttons, Lockscreen & much more.
Spirit is the ONLY fully digital FM app:
Bluetooth A2DP headsets in CD quality stereo.
Recording in CD quality stereo.
External visualizers, equalizers and effects.
Internal Wave and FFT visual: 5x8 dB & log2 43 - 22,050 Hz.
No FM: (devices that should be banned)
These devices, and many more, are not physically capable of FM, except as noted:
Samsung Galaxy S4/S5/S6/Note3/Note4/Note5 & most US/LTE models of Galaxy S, S2, S3, Note, Note2.
All Google Nexus's except Nexus One w/ custom kernel.
Motorola Verizon Razr HD & M / Maxx. (Australia variant has FM.)
Motorola Verizon Razr I XT890 (JB update disables FM. May 8 worked w/ root, but no audio.)
HTC Verizon Droid Incredible 4G LTE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059296
Forum is getting intense:
"There is a risk of speaker damage on Galaxy S GT-i9000 when running custom ICS or JB ROMs.
If you've been running Spirit for at least 10-40 hours with no problem, your risk is minimal. I think this is hardware related and about 1-5 % are susceptible. I get about 1 report every 3 weeks now.
Avoiding use of the speaker or keeping volume low does not help. Risk may increase when using USB cables to PCs or chargers or external amplifiers.
If you are worried about Galaxy S speaker damage, then DO NOT use Spirit, unless on CM7 or a stock derived ROM. Use GB ROMs with proven safe FM, get a new phone, or just live without FM.
Unless you are familar with ALSA programming, Ioctls and low level Linux/Android kernel stuff, as well as DC servos in amplifiers, please do not think you have useful technical advice to give about what I should study. I've spent at least 400 hours on this problem, with no analog solution."
Spirit Unlocked: RDS, Media Buttons, Lockscreen & much more.
Spirit is the ONLY fully digital FM app:
Bluetooth A2DP headsets in CD quality stereo.
Recording in CD quality stereo.
External visualizers, equalizers and effects.
Internal Wave and FFT visual: 5x8 dB & log2 43 - 22,050 Hz.
No FM: (devices that should be banned)
These devices, and many more, are not physically capable of FM, except as noted:
Samsung Galaxy S4/S5/S6/Note3/Note4/Note5 & most US/LTE models of Galaxy S, S2, S3, Note, Note2.
All Google Nexus's except Nexus One w/ custom kernel.
Motorola Verizon Razr HD & M / Maxx. (Australia variant has FM.)
Motorola Verizon Razr I XT890 (JB update disables FM. May 8 worked w/ root, but no audio.)
HTC Verizon Droid Incredible 4G LTE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059296
Forum is getting intense:
"There is a risk of speaker damage on Galaxy S GT-i9000 when running custom ICS or JB ROMs.
If you've been running Spirit for at least 10-40 hours with no problem, your risk is minimal. I think this is hardware related and about 1-5 % are susceptible. I get about 1 report every 3 weeks now.
Avoiding use of the speaker or keeping volume low does not help. Risk may increase when using USB cables to PCs or chargers or external amplifiers.
If you are worried about Galaxy S speaker damage, then DO NOT use Spirit, unless on CM7 or a stock derived ROM. Use GB ROMs with proven safe FM, get a new phone, or just live without FM.
Unless you are familar with ALSA programming, Ioctls and low level Linux/Android kernel stuff, as well as DC servos in amplifiers, please do not think you have useful technical advice to give about what I should study. I've spent at least 400 hours on this problem, with no analog solution."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059296
14 February 2016 22:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Edit August 18, 2015: I haven't updated this list since June 29, 2013 largely because FM has been dying on Android devices. Samsung hasn't supported FM on flagships since the International GS3 GT-I9300 and Note2 GT-N7100 and never supported FM on US flagships except for some rare Sprint devices.
If there is no stock working FM app on your device, chances are close to zero these days, especially on Samsungs.
The only additions I have made in over 2 years are: Sony Xperia Z2/Z3 or compatible, rooted LG G2 International or Sprint, and rooted devices with Qualcomm FM/combo and audio chips, such as the HTC One M8, Xperia Z1 and similar, and some lesser known devices.
"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13380058&postcount=2
If there is no stock working FM app on your device, chances are close to zero these days, especially on Samsungs.
The only additions I have made in over 2 years are: Sony Xperia Z2/Z3 or compatible, rooted LG G2 International or Sprint, and rooted devices with Qualcomm FM/combo and audio chips, such as the HTC One M8, Xperia Z1 and similar, and some lesser known devices.
"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13380058&postcount=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13380058&postcount=2
14 February 2016 22:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. http://www.techspot.com/news/60406-smartphone-equipped-fm-radio-tuner-you-cant-use.html
http://www.techspot.com/news/60406-smartphone-equipped-fm-radio-tuner-you-cant-use.html
14 February 2016 22:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Carton Carlton Lee, can You name me some most known Masons from year 300 to 1200 ? As many as You can would be good
14 February 2016 20:51
Margus Meigo replied to Carlton Lee's comment.
11 is not the mark of the beast in our astrology.. and what is ours is gods anyway with no effort,
but as You are truthful on Your words about father of current universe, i rather better not reprove you
just telling, that universes factory have a lot of job to do, to keep all the minds in peace with each other, for forgive me with not being able with little i got initiate a lot more what i s needed by now,
just to little, for initiation i feel (but if all is amounts that must be then my feeling or shyness is mistaking me)
but as You are truthful on Your words about father of current universe, i rather better not reprove you
just telling, that universes factory have a lot of job to do, to keep all the minds in peace with each other, for forgive me with not being able with little i got initiate a lot more what i s needed by now,
just to little, for initiation i feel (but if all is amounts that must be then my feeling or shyness is mistaking me)
14 February 2016 20:31
Margus Meigo replied to Carlton Lee's comment.
Most would agree, more then a mason one was a carpenter :p
14 February 2016 20:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
maybe some small ones with ACDC.. but it seems, that someone is going soon
just what i felt..
just what i felt..
14 February 2016 20:17
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's photo.
They Look legenday
But this is abut the last consent the make
This is good picture right here
But this is abut the last consent the make
This is good picture right here
14 February 2016 20:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
Each SAP details information for a specific, designated operation, weapon system, military test, diplomatic activity or intelligence operation.
Waurishuk, who was a SAP program manager at one point in his career, said a government official “cannot have accesses to a SAP’s unless they receive a special indoctrination into the SAP based on an operational ‘must know’ that exceeds all other ‘need to know’ standards.”
He said that Clinton’s “staff aides like Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills had absolutely ‘zero’ reason to have any access to any SAPs, period. How that happened and who authorized it is criminal in itself.”
Clinton asked her aide, Jacob Sullivan in a June 17, 2011 email to turn a classified document into “non-paper.”
“If they can’t, turn into nonpaper w(ith) no identifying heading and send nonsecure,” she directed her aide.
“They’re working on it,” Sullivan replied.
“What was going through this woman’s mind as she is reading this information on her own unclassified system,” asked Flynn. Did she think that nobody, the Russians or the Chinese was looking at it? Did she think this was the right thing to do?”
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Rep. Mike Pompeo , a Republican member of the House Intelligence Committee from Kansas, told TheDCNF that many members of the committee were reluctant to access SAP documents as they believed fewer eyes meant more control over the highly secretive information.
“The fewer people on intelligence that see it, or are exposed to it, have it presented it to them, the more likely it is that we will successfully keep that information in the hands of only those who should know it. SAP or compartmentalized information certainly fall in that bucket,” Pompeo said.
____
Should Hillary Clinton Drop Out Of The 2016 Presidential Race?
Yes No
Clinton’s campaign did not respond to TheDCNF’s request for comment.
Each SAP details information for a specific, designated operation, weapon system, military test, diplomatic activity or intelligence operation.
Waurishuk, who was a SAP program manager at one point in his career, said a government official “cannot have accesses to a SAP’s unless they receive a special indoctrination into the SAP based on an operational ‘must know’ that exceeds all other ‘need to know’ standards.”
He said that Clinton’s “staff aides like Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills had absolutely ‘zero’ reason to have any access to any SAPs, period. How that happened and who authorized it is criminal in itself.”
Clinton asked her aide, Jacob Sullivan in a June 17, 2011 email to turn a classified document into “non-paper.”
“If they can’t, turn into nonpaper w(ith) no identifying heading and send nonsecure,” she directed her aide.
“They’re working on it,” Sullivan replied.
“What was going through this woman’s mind as she is reading this information on her own unclassified system,” asked Flynn. Did she think that nobody, the Russians or the Chinese was looking at it? Did she think this was the right thing to do?”
Completing this poll entitles you to Daily Caller news updates free of charge. You may opt out at anytime. You also agree to our Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.
Rep. Mike Pompeo , a Republican member of the House Intelligence Committee from Kansas, told TheDCNF that many members of the committee were reluctant to access SAP documents as they believed fewer eyes meant more control over the highly secretive information.
“The fewer people on intelligence that see it, or are exposed to it, have it presented it to them, the more likely it is that we will successfully keep that information in the hands of only those who should know it. SAP or compartmentalized information certainly fall in that bucket,” Pompeo said.
____
Should Hillary Clinton Drop Out Of The 2016 Presidential Race?
Yes No
Clinton’s campaign did not respond to TheDCNF’s request for comment.
14 February 2016 15:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In addition :
President Barack Obama’s former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) believes Hillary Clinton should drop out of the presidential race to clear the way for the probe of her private email server by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
In an exclusive interview with The Daily Caller News Foundation, Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn (Ret.) said he thought the former Secretary of State should leave the Democratic presidential race: ”I think Hillary Clinton, for the good of the country, should step down and let this FBI investigation play out.”
On Feb. 2, the FBI filed a letter before U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan, confirming the Bureau is actively investigating Clinton’s use of an unsecured, privately owned email server to send and receive official government communications.
Flynn headed the DIA from July 2012 until August 2014 and co-authored a 2010 report that criticized the U.S. intelligence community for failing to pay enough attention to social factors in Afghanistan.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/10/exclusive-former-obama-defense-intel-chief-says-hillary-should-step-down/
Letter: http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/fbi-letter-investigation-hillary-clinton-emails/
Disclosed 14: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/19/inspector-general-clinton-emails-had-intel-from-most-secretive-classified-programs.html
Ash Carter: http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/520511p.pdf
HSC-0: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/23/exclusive-clinton-email-exposed-intel-from-human-spying.html
Jackob Sullivan: http://graphics.wsj.com/hillary-clinton-email-documents/pdfs/C05787519.pdf
Flynn and other high-ranking former intelligence officials told TheDCNF they are alarmed that some of the nation’s most highly classified documents contained in a secretive program called the Special Access Program (SAP) were transferred to Clinton’s unclassified home server.
The documents “had to be moved off electronically or removed out of the secure site physically, then it had to be put onto an unclassified email system,” Flynn said. “Someone who does this is completely irresponsible, but totally unaccountable and shows a streak of arrogance to the American public that is unworthy of anyone thinking they can run for President of the United States.”
“This is unbelievable,” Flynn said. “I don’t think anybody should be talking about her being potentially the next President of the United States.”
Intelligence Community Inspector General Charles McCullough, III disclosed on Jan. 14 that “several dozen emails” on Clinton’s home server included SAP documents, which is higher than “Top Secret.”
Placement of SAP-classified information on a non-secure server was the “single, most dangerous security violation that can ever happen to the United States,” said Col. James Waurishuk, former deputy director of intelligence for the U.S. Central Command.
SAP material was “the most stringently compartmented and protected information in the entire U.S. government,” said Waurishuk, who worked on the White House National Security Council during former President George H.W. Bush’s tenure.
Special Forces Col. James Williamson (Ret.) told TheDCNF that SAP classified documents are “the most sensitive of sensitive information” and that normal classified storage facilities, called Special Compartmentalized Information Facilities (SCIF), cannot provide adequate protection for SAP information.
“Within a SCIF, you have an additional SCIF, which is even further compartmentalized for SAP’s, giving them an additional layer of security,” Williamson said.
The SAP system is so restricted that one SAP clearance does not entitle a government official to access another SAP program. In addition, “Top Secret” clearances do not automatically permit a government official to view a SAP document. Government officials can only have access on a need-to-know basis.
Defense Secretary Ash Carter said in a February 2013 guidance document, “SAPs must be established and maintained only when absolutely necessary to protect the nation’s most sensitive capabilities.”
Carter also warned that “access to a SAP will be strictly limited to the minimum number of personnel necessary for execution of the program.”
At least one of the emails on Clinton’s server was coded as “HCS-O,” which refers to human intelligence sources in an ongoing operation, according to Fox News.
“If we had a high placed human asset at a high level Taliban or al Qaeda location, that would be an HSC-O,” Williamson told TheDCNF. “So when that was compromised, and it was compromised because it was on an unclassified server in Chappaqua, conceivably that was a human agent or possibly a U.S. intelligence officer that was exposed,” he said. Chappaqua, N.Y. is the private Clinton residence where the server resided.
Waurishuk agreed, saying that having SAP documents on an unsecured server, “can result in the death of people in the field.”
Attempting to move SAP-classified documents from the government’s secure system to her non-secure computer channel presented Clinton and her aides with formidable barriers to overcome.
“You have to physically do it. You have to willfully violate the law. There is no connectivity in any way between classified and non-classified systems,” said Williamson.
“In order for Mrs. Clinton to get Top Secret/Special Access Programs onto her private server, numerous, redundant safeguards were deliberately bypassed, probably by unauthorized personnel who were given access to these documents. It was a deliberate, intentional act. It just could not happen by accident,” Waurishuk said.
Encrypted SAP documents are sent to a computer channel via satellites maintained by the National Security Agency. Users in a SAP SCIF normally cannot print or fax information to any non-SAP system or to an unsecured system. Thumb nail drives, cell phones and any kind of Wi-Fi are strictly forbidden inside a SAP SCIF.
President Barack Obama’s former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) believes Hillary Clinton should drop out of the presidential race to clear the way for the probe of her private email server by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
In an exclusive interview with The Daily Caller News Foundation, Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn (Ret.) said he thought the former Secretary of State should leave the Democratic presidential race: ”I think Hillary Clinton, for the good of the country, should step down and let this FBI investigation play out.”
On Feb. 2, the FBI filed a letter before U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan, confirming the Bureau is actively investigating Clinton’s use of an unsecured, privately owned email server to send and receive official government communications.
Flynn headed the DIA from July 2012 until August 2014 and co-authored a 2010 report that criticized the U.S. intelligence community for failing to pay enough attention to social factors in Afghanistan.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/10/exclusive-former-obama-defense-intel-chief-says-hillary-should-step-down/
Letter: http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/fbi-letter-investigation-hillary-clinton-emails/
Disclosed 14: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/19/inspector-general-clinton-emails-had-intel-from-most-secretive-classified-programs.html
Ash Carter: http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/520511p.pdf
HSC-0: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/23/exclusive-clinton-email-exposed-intel-from-human-spying.html
Jackob Sullivan: http://graphics.wsj.com/hillary-clinton-email-documents/pdfs/C05787519.pdf
Flynn and other high-ranking former intelligence officials told TheDCNF they are alarmed that some of the nation’s most highly classified documents contained in a secretive program called the Special Access Program (SAP) were transferred to Clinton’s unclassified home server.
The documents “had to be moved off electronically or removed out of the secure site physically, then it had to be put onto an unclassified email system,” Flynn said. “Someone who does this is completely irresponsible, but totally unaccountable and shows a streak of arrogance to the American public that is unworthy of anyone thinking they can run for President of the United States.”
“This is unbelievable,” Flynn said. “I don’t think anybody should be talking about her being potentially the next President of the United States.”
Intelligence Community Inspector General Charles McCullough, III disclosed on Jan. 14 that “several dozen emails” on Clinton’s home server included SAP documents, which is higher than “Top Secret.”
Placement of SAP-classified information on a non-secure server was the “single, most dangerous security violation that can ever happen to the United States,” said Col. James Waurishuk, former deputy director of intelligence for the U.S. Central Command.
SAP material was “the most stringently compartmented and protected information in the entire U.S. government,” said Waurishuk, who worked on the White House National Security Council during former President George H.W. Bush’s tenure.
Special Forces Col. James Williamson (Ret.) told TheDCNF that SAP classified documents are “the most sensitive of sensitive information” and that normal classified storage facilities, called Special Compartmentalized Information Facilities (SCIF), cannot provide adequate protection for SAP information.
“Within a SCIF, you have an additional SCIF, which is even further compartmentalized for SAP’s, giving them an additional layer of security,” Williamson said.
The SAP system is so restricted that one SAP clearance does not entitle a government official to access another SAP program. In addition, “Top Secret” clearances do not automatically permit a government official to view a SAP document. Government officials can only have access on a need-to-know basis.
Defense Secretary Ash Carter said in a February 2013 guidance document, “SAPs must be established and maintained only when absolutely necessary to protect the nation’s most sensitive capabilities.”
Carter also warned that “access to a SAP will be strictly limited to the minimum number of personnel necessary for execution of the program.”
At least one of the emails on Clinton’s server was coded as “HCS-O,” which refers to human intelligence sources in an ongoing operation, according to Fox News.
“If we had a high placed human asset at a high level Taliban or al Qaeda location, that would be an HSC-O,” Williamson told TheDCNF. “So when that was compromised, and it was compromised because it was on an unclassified server in Chappaqua, conceivably that was a human agent or possibly a U.S. intelligence officer that was exposed,” he said. Chappaqua, N.Y. is the private Clinton residence where the server resided.
Waurishuk agreed, saying that having SAP documents on an unsecured server, “can result in the death of people in the field.”
Attempting to move SAP-classified documents from the government’s secure system to her non-secure computer channel presented Clinton and her aides with formidable barriers to overcome.
“You have to physically do it. You have to willfully violate the law. There is no connectivity in any way between classified and non-classified systems,” said Williamson.
“In order for Mrs. Clinton to get Top Secret/Special Access Programs onto her private server, numerous, redundant safeguards were deliberately bypassed, probably by unauthorized personnel who were given access to these documents. It was a deliberate, intentional act. It just could not happen by accident,” Waurishuk said.
Encrypted SAP documents are sent to a computer channel via satellites maintained by the National Security Agency. Users in a SAP SCIF normally cannot print or fax information to any non-SAP system or to an unsecured system. Thumb nail drives, cell phones and any kind of Wi-Fi are strictly forbidden inside a SAP SCIF.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/10/exclusive-former-obama-defense-intel-chief-says-hillary-should-step-down/
14 February 2016 15:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. "This momentous discovery is the last piece in proving Einstein’s theory of general relativity. It’s also significant in apologetics as it offers substantial support for a biblical creation model. "
http://www.reasons.org/articles/rtb-covers-breaking-news-gravitational-waves-from-black-holes-detected
and a bit of: https://goo.gl/SqOlUB
in news: https://goo.gl/xVvAoi
http://www.reasons.org/articles/rtb-covers-breaking-news-gravitational-waves-from-black-holes-detected
and a bit of: https://goo.gl/SqOlUB
in news: https://goo.gl/xVvAoi
14 February 2016 15:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%2053%3A3-5%2C53%3A1-12&version=CJB;OJB
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%2053%3A3-5%2C53%3A1-12&version=CJB;OJB
14 February 2016 15:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(Just remeber, that romans, communists promoted Jewishness for a ONLY purpose to destroy that after getting all wisdom they get..)
" The ideological divide led to a substantial weakening of the movement in the late 1880s and early 1890s, a decline that intensified when the Russian government prohibited Ḥibat Tsiyon from forming a legal, publicly recognized entity. More significantly, circumstances for Russian Jews improved both as a result of domestic developments and because of the widespread emigration of Jews to the West. Moreover, the Ḥibat Tsiyon movement itself was further split ideologically when one of its most prominent intellectual leaders, Ahad Ha-Am (Asher Ginzberg) criticized its emphasis on colonization in Palestine rather than on cultural nationalism and Hebrew education in the Diaspora. As a result, by the late 1890s the movement had all but disappeared in Eastern Europe, though its few surviving colonies in Palestine continued to struggle and at times to flourish. When Theodor Herzl founded the Zionist movement in 1897, he had no knowledge of the Ḥibat Tsiyon movement, but many of its members and sympathizers joined the new Zionist movement. They soon formed the nucleus of the opposition to Herzl within the Zionist movement itself, particularly over the Uganda Project of 1903. Soon, however, the remaining Ḥibat Tsiyon organizations merged into the cultural and spiritual Zionist parties influenced by Ahad Ha-Am and later by Martin Buber.
Suggested Reading
Alter Druyanow, Ketavim le-toldot Ḥibat Tsiyon ve-yishuv Erets Yisra’el, 3 vols. (vol. 1, Odessa; vols. 2–3, Tel Aviv, 1919–1932); Ehud Luz, Parallels Meet: Religion and Nationalism in the Early Zionist Movement, 1882–1904, trans. Lenn J. Schramm (Philadelphia, 1988); David Vital, The Origins of Zionism (Oxford, 1975).
" The ideological divide led to a substantial weakening of the movement in the late 1880s and early 1890s, a decline that intensified when the Russian government prohibited Ḥibat Tsiyon from forming a legal, publicly recognized entity. More significantly, circumstances for Russian Jews improved both as a result of domestic developments and because of the widespread emigration of Jews to the West. Moreover, the Ḥibat Tsiyon movement itself was further split ideologically when one of its most prominent intellectual leaders, Ahad Ha-Am (Asher Ginzberg) criticized its emphasis on colonization in Palestine rather than on cultural nationalism and Hebrew education in the Diaspora. As a result, by the late 1890s the movement had all but disappeared in Eastern Europe, though its few surviving colonies in Palestine continued to struggle and at times to flourish. When Theodor Herzl founded the Zionist movement in 1897, he had no knowledge of the Ḥibat Tsiyon movement, but many of its members and sympathizers joined the new Zionist movement. They soon formed the nucleus of the opposition to Herzl within the Zionist movement itself, particularly over the Uganda Project of 1903. Soon, however, the remaining Ḥibat Tsiyon organizations merged into the cultural and spiritual Zionist parties influenced by Ahad Ha-Am and later by Martin Buber.
Suggested Reading
Alter Druyanow, Ketavim le-toldot Ḥibat Tsiyon ve-yishuv Erets Yisra’el, 3 vols. (vol. 1, Odessa; vols. 2–3, Tel Aviv, 1919–1932); Ehud Luz, Parallels Meet: Religion and Nationalism in the Early Zionist Movement, 1882–1904, trans. Lenn J. Schramm (Philadelphia, 1988); David Vital, The Origins of Zionism (Oxford, 1975).
14 February 2016 15:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
Established in Russia and Romania in the early 1880s when concepts promoting modern Jewish nationalism began to spread from intellectual circles to the masses, the Ḥibat Tsiyon (Hibbat Zion; Love of Zion) movement was a pre-Zionist Jewish nationalist movement; its followers were called Ḥoveve Tsiyon (Lovers of Zion). The founders of the movement were Perets Smolenskin, Mosheh Leib Lilienblum, and Eli‘ezer Perlmann (later Ben-Yehudah), who in the late 1860s and throughout the 1870s applied modern theories of nationalism to Jewish circumstances.
Arguing that Jews are a nation, the founders of Ḥibat Tsiyon broke with the view that Jews are solely members of a religion unfettered by national or ethnic ties. Ben-Yehudah, in particular, asserted that the only place for modern Jewish nationalism to truly take hold was in the Land of Israel, where Jews would need to reclaim Hebrew as their daily, spoken language as well as the language of culture. His views, and those of Smolenskin and Lilienblum, became more popular after the pogroms in Ukraine in 1881–1882, and especially after the physician Lev (Leo) Pinsker published Autoemancipation (1882), in which he argued that antisemitism is not a fleeting remnant of medieval religious prejudice but a consistent modern phenomenon, a disease passed from generation to generation. Pinsker maintained that the disease could be cured only if Jews relocated to an environment in which they could determine their own autonomous polity. Pinsker soon agreed that Palestine was the sole feasible place for Jewish national self-liberation. He not only joined the Ḥibat Tsiyon movement but also became its head.
From Aharon Shemu’el Tamares in Milejczyce to Ḥayim Tchernowitz in Odessa, n.d., about a pamphlet he has prepared that includes essays on subjects related to Judaism, including Zionism. The pamphlet has been with the publisher Yehoshu‘a Ḥana Ravnitski for more than half a year but is still unpublished. Tamares suspects that this is because Ravnitski is a Herzlian Zionist, whereas the essays in the pamphlet promote the Ḥibat Tsiyon movement. He asks Tchernowitz to recommend a printer/publisher in Odessa. Hebrew. RG 107, Letters Collection. (YIVO)
The founding conference of Ḥibat Tsiyon was held in the city of Katowice in 1884. Always a loose-knit movement, it soon spread throughout the Pale of Settlement, Romania, and elsewhere. Though Ḥibat Tsiyon attracted the support of some major rabbis in Eastern Europe, the religious community approached Jewish nationalism with different, and indeed contrary, perspectives, imbuing settlement in Palestine with traditional religious rationales. The tension between these two groups of Ḥoveve Tsiyon was manifested in their conflicting requirements for agricultural settlements set up in Palestine with the economic support of Baron Edmund de Rothschild, who was not himself a Jewish nationalist. Tensions came to a head in 1887 in a debate over rules for the first sabbatical year after the establishment of the colonies. According to traditional law, Jews were obliged leave their fields fallow for one season after six years of planting. To the secular Zionists, this prohibition seemed a preposterous denial of the very basis of their raison-d’être, Jewish self-sufficiency. Although some rabbinic supporters of the movement argued for suspension of the rules, the vast majority of East European rabbinic authorities insisted that new settlements adhere to traditional Jewish law.
http://www.yivoencyclopedia.org/article.aspx/Hibat_Tsiyon
Established in Russia and Romania in the early 1880s when concepts promoting modern Jewish nationalism began to spread from intellectual circles to the masses, the Ḥibat Tsiyon (Hibbat Zion; Love of Zion) movement was a pre-Zionist Jewish nationalist movement; its followers were called Ḥoveve Tsiyon (Lovers of Zion). The founders of the movement were Perets Smolenskin, Mosheh Leib Lilienblum, and Eli‘ezer Perlmann (later Ben-Yehudah), who in the late 1860s and throughout the 1870s applied modern theories of nationalism to Jewish circumstances.
Arguing that Jews are a nation, the founders of Ḥibat Tsiyon broke with the view that Jews are solely members of a religion unfettered by national or ethnic ties. Ben-Yehudah, in particular, asserted that the only place for modern Jewish nationalism to truly take hold was in the Land of Israel, where Jews would need to reclaim Hebrew as their daily, spoken language as well as the language of culture. His views, and those of Smolenskin and Lilienblum, became more popular after the pogroms in Ukraine in 1881–1882, and especially after the physician Lev (Leo) Pinsker published Autoemancipation (1882), in which he argued that antisemitism is not a fleeting remnant of medieval religious prejudice but a consistent modern phenomenon, a disease passed from generation to generation. Pinsker maintained that the disease could be cured only if Jews relocated to an environment in which they could determine their own autonomous polity. Pinsker soon agreed that Palestine was the sole feasible place for Jewish national self-liberation. He not only joined the Ḥibat Tsiyon movement but also became its head.
From Aharon Shemu’el Tamares in Milejczyce to Ḥayim Tchernowitz in Odessa, n.d., about a pamphlet he has prepared that includes essays on subjects related to Judaism, including Zionism. The pamphlet has been with the publisher Yehoshu‘a Ḥana Ravnitski for more than half a year but is still unpublished. Tamares suspects that this is because Ravnitski is a Herzlian Zionist, whereas the essays in the pamphlet promote the Ḥibat Tsiyon movement. He asks Tchernowitz to recommend a printer/publisher in Odessa. Hebrew. RG 107, Letters Collection. (YIVO)
The founding conference of Ḥibat Tsiyon was held in the city of Katowice in 1884. Always a loose-knit movement, it soon spread throughout the Pale of Settlement, Romania, and elsewhere. Though Ḥibat Tsiyon attracted the support of some major rabbis in Eastern Europe, the religious community approached Jewish nationalism with different, and indeed contrary, perspectives, imbuing settlement in Palestine with traditional religious rationales. The tension between these two groups of Ḥoveve Tsiyon was manifested in their conflicting requirements for agricultural settlements set up in Palestine with the economic support of Baron Edmund de Rothschild, who was not himself a Jewish nationalist. Tensions came to a head in 1887 in a debate over rules for the first sabbatical year after the establishment of the colonies. According to traditional law, Jews were obliged leave their fields fallow for one season after six years of planting. To the secular Zionists, this prohibition seemed a preposterous denial of the very basis of their raison-d’être, Jewish self-sufficiency. Although some rabbinic supporters of the movement argued for suspension of the rules, the vast majority of East European rabbinic authorities insisted that new settlements adhere to traditional Jewish law.
http://www.yivoencyclopedia.org/article.aspx/Hibat_Tsiyon
http://www.yivoencyclopedia.org/article.aspx/Hibat_Tsiyon
14 February 2016 15:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. Also:
http://scepterofjudah.net/
http://scepterofjudah.net/
http://scepterofjudah.net/
14 February 2016 15:00
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Nilson's post.
Nii see maailm on
14 February 2016 14:58
Margus Meigo replied to Margus von Einmann's comment.
Kuidas subtiitrid on ?
14 February 2016 14:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid jah, vaja hoida mütoloogiat ja austuse piiri.. nii, et nad näeksid, et neil endil ka see maa siin kasulik hoida vlagena... isegi kui nadei tea miks... sest noh,.. kärbseseeni nad ei julge süüa nagu meie, et teada saada miks
selgitasin ka, et suur hulk naisi mei lsiin nõiad ja see tavapärane oskus meil siin, et tunduvad syytud tydrukud, kuid tegelikult selline maagia käib et hoia ja keela... viisin ta siis veel protesti ligi ka, selle uue aja satanistide klubil ligi, kus ise nägi, et tava normaalsed noored, käivad sellistes kohtades.. et ohtlikud naised jah..
(muidugi ise ka oma nõidadega peame ettevaatlikud olema, et neid õiges suunas hoida.. kuid see juba uus teema)
igatahjes lühidalt
Igasugune naiste lantimise jutt oli kuni lahkumiseni kohe kadunud :D
sama teema toimis ka kui ühe vana neegrida käisime, kõhe näha oli, et selle vana tarkus ja elukogemus ja suhtumine.. et tegu millegi tõsisega, et mitte ta siin ei otsi mugavat kohta elamiseks, vaid vaatab suurema pilguga, analüüsib.. nu talle ka siis sai mainitud, et meil suht tavaline siin ikka oli inimesed sohu ära viia, et see viisakas tegevus, ei jää jälgi ja looduslik ka, et tundub jumalaga kooskõlas
selgitasin ka, et suur hulk naisi mei lsiin nõiad ja see tavapärane oskus meil siin, et tunduvad syytud tydrukud, kuid tegelikult selline maagia käib et hoia ja keela... viisin ta siis veel protesti ligi ka, selle uue aja satanistide klubil ligi, kus ise nägi, et tava normaalsed noored, käivad sellistes kohtades.. et ohtlikud naised jah..
(muidugi ise ka oma nõidadega peame ettevaatlikud olema, et neid õiges suunas hoida.. kuid see juba uus teema)
igatahjes lühidalt
Igasugune naiste lantimise jutt oli kuni lahkumiseni kohe kadunud :D
sama teema toimis ka kui ühe vana neegrida käisime, kõhe näha oli, et selle vana tarkus ja elukogemus ja suhtumine.. et tegu millegi tõsisega, et mitte ta siin ei otsi mugavat kohta elamiseks, vaid vaatab suurema pilguga, analüüsib.. nu talle ka siis sai mainitud, et meil suht tavaline siin ikka oli inimesed sohu ära viia, et see viisakas tegevus, ei jää jälgi ja looduslik ka, et tundub jumalaga kooskõlas
14 February 2016 14:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lihtsalt peab aru saama, ja ära tabama nende trikitamised.. kus nad su vaimupuhtust testivad, päris agent muslemid.. väga lahedad ja sõralikud, teevad kjooki välja, pakuvad kalleid asju.. komenteerivad naisi ja panevad sind komnteerima, napsama poest midagi tillukest muuseas (minigd õunad mis maksmata jäi kuna ta naeratus ajas poemüüal pea sassi...)
jms ... ja siis nad vaatavad, et kas sa patune või päris ristiusu järgi normides, kui oled normides, siis nad hoopis uue austuse taseme võtavad, sind võrdsena ja veel oma korra sinna otsa oma maa päris omanikuna võtavad...
madalalt käitudes, ärbeldes.. nad muigavad kolutaga mõeldes, et kui palju sa ärpled kui 50 millionit ta venda siin on 500 aasta pärast,
jms ... ja siis nad vaatavad, et kas sa patune või päris ristiusu järgi normides, kui oled normides, siis nad hoopis uue austuse taseme võtavad, sind võrdsena ja veel oma korra sinna otsa oma maa päris omanikuna võtavad...
madalalt käitudes, ärbeldes.. nad muigavad kolutaga mõeldes, et kui palju sa ärpled kui 50 millionit ta venda siin on 500 aasta pärast,
14 February 2016 14:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kui mind siin eestis moseese viidi, siis miskit taolist selitasin ka neile, päris huvitav pööre oli.
14 February 2016 14:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ega orjapidajad ka genobaasi solkimise poolt ei ole, kuid kuna osad maad jälle uuesti liiga ära tõusnud, ja hakanud nende orjamaade piirides arvama, et need nende orjalaagrid, siis vaja sisse viia korra mustus,t et läbi selle sisestada suure mhulk kohalike agente ja pidepunkte mida saab välja vahetada hiljem lihtsalt ning väga mitut muud moodi kasutada.
Muidu aga niisama 1000 rätikupead eesti tuua siia korda hoidma ja analyysima oleks raske, ... kui aga punt ees on, keda ei analyysita kohalike poolt, kellest ollakse eemal.. siis neid pärast kasvõi ükshaaval välja vahetada.. on juba lihtsam... "omade kaudu"
kuid kuna tegu relgioosete inimestega ,siis mõeldakse palju suuremalt kui Passi piires.,
oluline on nende arvates õige vaimu ligi saada ja läbi nend eviamu siinseid vaimusi enda alla allutada..
selles osas me muidugi peaksime vlamis olema, vastu võtma, ja ütlema neile, et me vaim siin ammu juba enne seda suurem kui nad orjasi pidama hakkasid ... et meil kalender 10 229.. ja me Maarja Maa ehk jeesuse ja veel paljude teiste vägilaste sünnimaa., .. et neela pampersit kui ei meeldi elulihtne tõde, et meil siin on eluehtsad nõiad, haldjad ja katoliiklastest vaimuisad kes teavad täpselt kuidas mis inimprojekte sumerid tegid ja mis moodi eri ajastutes Eestlased on asja ajanud,
Muidu aga niisama 1000 rätikupead eesti tuua siia korda hoidma ja analyysima oleks raske, ... kui aga punt ees on, keda ei analyysita kohalike poolt, kellest ollakse eemal.. siis neid pärast kasvõi ükshaaval välja vahetada.. on juba lihtsam... "omade kaudu"
kuid kuna tegu relgioosete inimestega ,siis mõeldakse palju suuremalt kui Passi piires.,
oluline on nende arvates õige vaimu ligi saada ja läbi nend eviamu siinseid vaimusi enda alla allutada..
selles osas me muidugi peaksime vlamis olema, vastu võtma, ja ütlema neile, et me vaim siin ammu juba enne seda suurem kui nad orjasi pidama hakkasid ... et meil kalender 10 229.. ja me Maarja Maa ehk jeesuse ja veel paljude teiste vägilaste sünnimaa., .. et neela pampersit kui ei meeldi elulihtne tõde, et meil siin on eluehtsad nõiad, haldjad ja katoliiklastest vaimuisad kes teavad täpselt kuidas mis inimprojekte sumerid tegid ja mis moodi eri ajastutes Eestlased on asja ajanud,
14 February 2016 14:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ning omakorda sellel madalal tasemel, selliste energeetiliste jõudude vastu, kuidas iganes neid nimetada soovid.. me paratamatult hakkame pritsima just mitte kõige targemat juttu, tuues endale kaasa sajatusi ja muud.. .
nagu ka kommunistidele, ja uutele viisnurga kummardajatele (EU, USA, Vene, Must Maagia, Nõiad, Satanism, Pentagram, Pentagon....), on kasulik , kui me neist mõtleme madalalt ja samal ajal aru saame nende ohtlikusest kuid ka madalal tasemel.. et siis 1:0 teha kohe kui kallale oleme jooksnud ja nad hoppis muul tasemel on ette valmistanud.
Tihti meid meie enda legaalsete, keeleliste ja muude relvadega rünnates lisaks näpuotsaga nende oma enda maagiat..
tuleb meeles pidada, et rätikupead olid ja ja vb on siiani, ühed suurimad orjapidajad, kes kogu maakera vaatasid ja vaatavad kui oma orje keda nüüdis ajal lihtsalt vaja iseseisvalt tööle panna, et nad toodaks mida vaja.. ja kui vaja... siis saab nad kõik korraga ära tõsta...
kuid eelkõige, neid eri liike orjasi neile vaja, oma genobaasi hoidmiseks, võttes siit kerge vaevaga erinevaid naisi ning neid ja nende järglasi siis paljundades kõvasti...
nad mõtlevad ikkagi pikalt ette, mitte ainult paarkümmend aastat nagu siinseid on treenitud selle 4 aastaste valimis törtsutamistega.
Valitsejad ikkagi peaksid olema mitukümned aastat, siis on asjast tolku
nagu ka kommunistidele, ja uutele viisnurga kummardajatele (EU, USA, Vene, Must Maagia, Nõiad, Satanism, Pentagram, Pentagon....), on kasulik , kui me neist mõtleme madalalt ja samal ajal aru saame nende ohtlikusest kuid ka madalal tasemel.. et siis 1:0 teha kohe kui kallale oleme jooksnud ja nad hoppis muul tasemel on ette valmistanud.
Tihti meid meie enda legaalsete, keeleliste ja muude relvadega rünnates lisaks näpuotsaga nende oma enda maagiat..
tuleb meeles pidada, et rätikupead olid ja ja vb on siiani, ühed suurimad orjapidajad, kes kogu maakera vaatasid ja vaatavad kui oma orje keda nüüdis ajal lihtsalt vaja iseseisvalt tööle panna, et nad toodaks mida vaja.. ja kui vaja... siis saab nad kõik korraga ära tõsta...
kuid eelkõige, neid eri liike orjasi neile vaja, oma genobaasi hoidmiseks, võttes siit kerge vaevaga erinevaid naisi ning neid ja nende järglasi siis paljundades kõvasti...
nad mõtlevad ikkagi pikalt ette, mitte ainult paarkümmend aastat nagu siinseid on treenitud selle 4 aastaste valimis törtsutamistega.
Valitsejad ikkagi peaksid olema mitukümned aastat, siis on asjast tolku
14 February 2016 14:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lihtsalt me oma puhtust hoida kõrvadevahel, tuleb vaadata kelle ja millist mustust me jagame...
teades nende kõrg tasemelist mitmekihilist ette planeerimis manipulatsioonide võimet, siis võib see pilt meelega olla tehtud just siia meiel jagamiseks saadetud, et "need kles mustad meeltes..las need vaatavad ja jagavad..:"
sest nad teavad, mis moodi see MEIE meelt rikub.. tema läheb peseb ennast puhtaks 5 minutiga ja uue ürbi selge ja...
vaimsed tasemed on sellised, mida ei tasu alahinnata, sest meie oleme need kes sitamaiguga suhu jäävad
teades nende kõrg tasemelist mitmekihilist ette planeerimis manipulatsioonide võimet, siis võib see pilt meelega olla tehtud just siia meiel jagamiseks saadetud, et "need kles mustad meeltes..las need vaatavad ja jagavad..:"
sest nad teavad, mis moodi see MEIE meelt rikub.. tema läheb peseb ennast puhtaks 5 minutiga ja uue ürbi selge ja...
vaimsed tasemed on sellised, mida ei tasu alahinnata, sest meie oleme need kes sitamaiguga suhu jäävad
14 February 2016 14:07
Margus Meigo commented on Imre Arakas's photo.
Muidu ma ei pannud seda asja mis tal riidel on, tähelegi, alles nüüd.. ja suht rõve nagu.. et emm..
kas ikka peaksime teise sellist tagumikku vaatama sin, et kas see meid suts imelikuks mitte ei tee , väga mitmel tasemel.
Mis moodi Sa komenteeritksid kui keegi miskeid muid haigeid pilte vaatab...
kas ikka peaksime teise sellist tagumikku vaatama sin, et kas see meid suts imelikuks mitte ei tee , väga mitmel tasemel.
Mis moodi Sa komenteeritksid kui keegi miskeid muid haigeid pilte vaatab...
14 February 2016 14:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
One more interesting fact, that someone might not know is that @ first, all normal man wear dresses,
trousers was invented by a woman for protecting her private parts on special situations, in cold for example where it is really important.
man picked that up for some reason later, and now we are here.. wearing jeans, all of us, For man, chill actually is beneficial for balls, and warm literally kills off sperm-cells and makes offspring weaker in many dimensions.
Long live Scottish! (one of the highest fertility rate)
trousers was invented by a woman for protecting her private parts on special situations, in cold for example where it is really important.
man picked that up for some reason later, and now we are here.. wearing jeans, all of us, For man, chill actually is beneficial for balls, and warm literally kills off sperm-cells and makes offspring weaker in many dimensions.
Long live Scottish! (one of the highest fertility rate)
14 February 2016 14:03
Margus Meigo commented on Imre Arakas's photo.
Muidu, seda ikka teate, et püksid on naiste leiutised ja mehed algselt kõik, kes vähegi normaalsed olid kandsid seelikuid ?
14 February 2016 13:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So look these words besides English, also by other languages, as English is a new and many ways limited language still, by now, perhaps it evolves, as it got great potential.
In my language, there is no separate Sex as "she" and "he"
Word for Mother is: Ema
The word Female, is "Emane"
The Word for Women is: Naine
Word for father is: Isa
Word for male is: Isane
Word for Man is: Mees
So You see, the Man and Woman is not even related to root word of Father and Mother,
what that means, we can leave for interpretation (but we got answers, the ones who know ancient "mystic" true meaning of Nomen Est Omen language words (from what a words come to our new created language, for people who time keeping is Year 10229 by now))
So this about Female and Male, from one of the Male, not jet a father, from Estonia
In my language, there is no separate Sex as "she" and "he"
Word for Mother is: Ema
The word Female, is "Emane"
The Word for Women is: Naine
Word for father is: Isa
Word for male is: Isane
Word for Man is: Mees
So You see, the Man and Woman is not even related to root word of Father and Mother,
what that means, we can leave for interpretation (but we got answers, the ones who know ancient "mystic" true meaning of Nomen Est Omen language words (from what a words come to our new created language, for people who time keeping is Year 10229 by now))
So this about Female and Male, from one of the Male, not jet a father, from Estonia
14 February 2016 13:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So my point is, that We have to our self, start to see, that word "Female"
is great word
Perhaps, yes, Women is better that what i like my self.
But in large scale this is Great Word
and let not society trick you feel, that dogs, birds, and other females for them not being able to be the ones who have sex with a man, eg. Woman .. that they are because of that less worth.. then You force Yourself against yourself, and will loose, as there is more Females then the ones who say to be a Women. That is near Earth one dimensional privilege perhaps only.
In my native language, the world for Female and Women, has NOTHING to do with a word Man or Male,
as it should not have to do much, as that is more then another species, it is another dimensional level of creation. Species are at least in our terms in same world origins by same standards.
is great word
Perhaps, yes, Women is better that what i like my self.
But in large scale this is Great Word
and let not society trick you feel, that dogs, birds, and other females for them not being able to be the ones who have sex with a man, eg. Woman .. that they are because of that less worth.. then You force Yourself against yourself, and will loose, as there is more Females then the ones who say to be a Women. That is near Earth one dimensional privilege perhaps only.
In my native language, the world for Female and Women, has NOTHING to do with a word Man or Male,
as it should not have to do much, as that is more then another species, it is another dimensional level of creation. Species are at least in our terms in same world origins by same standards.
14 February 2016 13:42
Margus Meigo commented on Dismantle Misogyny's post.
@Fourth
In the end, they force women to give up intercourse to a any posessed man by guilt to be a "equal" and take in to account "others needs"
( sex is multi dimensional power and spirits use man body to access what they can not normally, now using not real women body is also becoming popular again)
... there will be women magazines telling that how it is "good to give him sometimes, ..how ever you feel... to this little poor man to get YOU a power..." - most likely they will not make a open law about equality, that on work place or in club You HAVE TO do what guy wants to "be equal!" but instead they use much deeper psychology and reverced guilt / reward based trickery that will work for most of the good hearted or trapped, confused woman if they feel they get empowerment from it. And for confusion there is whole a lot of electronical and chemical tools like some TV serials desinged for to a foods and deodorants just example of view.
Sometimes after a time in history, it is forgetten again, that the ACTAUL war on here, is about getting full control and power ower female spirit (and from there Nature) but She gives birth to a "seed" that according to Religions of various kind, is the biggest, obsicle of evil-doers, who can also take near any body form but correctly grown up man is a big obsticle indeed. Biggest weapon against a man is an alcohol and accepting low level jokes (use of language) about life most important.
There is many thing a bit of homo side of ruling man has made, tricked women to do that one still is doing thinking it is Her right and empowerment, but actually, to think about it..
.:. High heels (first wear by man, makes women weak, unpractical and powerless but puts Ego, eg fake pride up. as "benefit" is served reversed way),
.:. Smoking cigarettes (tricked by psychologist as "your own penis" to get women in to it, makes women weak and dependable on man eyes actually)
.:. Commercial make up (to be a shame of REAL you, makes women more toy, fake, doll like actually on man eyes),
..: Hair cutting and torturing with chemicals (lowers or eliminates many magical intuition powers of women besides directly poisoning head, as hair is alive nerve-system extension besides many other tasks/powers)
.:. UN-practical plastic clothing (to make health problems and lower vibrations of intelligence, cut connection to earth, show them as "Not being all Up there alright" )
and also (probably)
.:. bra wearing ("lock" yourself as a horse, or dog, before going out with these dangerous breasts..., to have less influence over man and to be self shamed of moving naturally. So it is then man right to unlock. Most wicked man would not be able to keep their fake "gentelman"lines front of real mooving breasts long enough, just because of childhood already.... Besides, Bra is bad for most women's physically and emotionally. But as high heels, with beliefs it does feel "natural" and good..). Just example of few.
So how that end up to be related to it all.. i think that is, as by tricking us to change root words, by making first our self to feel ashamed about a word, and then feeding anonymous feedback about how someone feels bad about this and that.. we let out self to be tricked and controlled to easy, if we not bother to look up ourself, what is the menaing and worth of a word.
Next someone is starting to use another good word bad way.. and then we have to escape from that word also, no ? We ourself, can decide, what is good, and that everything related to female, is holy, good, period! (including, a period..)
http://mytinysecrets.com/the-magical-powers-of-your-hair/
In the end, they force women to give up intercourse to a any posessed man by guilt to be a "equal" and take in to account "others needs"
( sex is multi dimensional power and spirits use man body to access what they can not normally, now using not real women body is also becoming popular again)
... there will be women magazines telling that how it is "good to give him sometimes, ..how ever you feel... to this little poor man to get YOU a power..." - most likely they will not make a open law about equality, that on work place or in club You HAVE TO do what guy wants to "be equal!" but instead they use much deeper psychology and reverced guilt / reward based trickery that will work for most of the good hearted or trapped, confused woman if they feel they get empowerment from it. And for confusion there is whole a lot of electronical and chemical tools like some TV serials desinged for to a foods and deodorants just example of view.
Sometimes after a time in history, it is forgetten again, that the ACTAUL war on here, is about getting full control and power ower female spirit (and from there Nature) but She gives birth to a "seed" that according to Religions of various kind, is the biggest, obsicle of evil-doers, who can also take near any body form but correctly grown up man is a big obsticle indeed. Biggest weapon against a man is an alcohol and accepting low level jokes (use of language) about life most important.
There is many thing a bit of homo side of ruling man has made, tricked women to do that one still is doing thinking it is Her right and empowerment, but actually, to think about it..
.:. High heels (first wear by man, makes women weak, unpractical and powerless but puts Ego, eg fake pride up. as "benefit" is served reversed way),
.:. Smoking cigarettes (tricked by psychologist as "your own penis" to get women in to it, makes women weak and dependable on man eyes actually)
.:. Commercial make up (to be a shame of REAL you, makes women more toy, fake, doll like actually on man eyes),
..: Hair cutting and torturing with chemicals (lowers or eliminates many magical intuition powers of women besides directly poisoning head, as hair is alive nerve-system extension besides many other tasks/powers)
.:. UN-practical plastic clothing (to make health problems and lower vibrations of intelligence, cut connection to earth, show them as "Not being all Up there alright" )
and also (probably)
.:. bra wearing ("lock" yourself as a horse, or dog, before going out with these dangerous breasts..., to have less influence over man and to be self shamed of moving naturally. So it is then man right to unlock. Most wicked man would not be able to keep their fake "gentelman"lines front of real mooving breasts long enough, just because of childhood already.... Besides, Bra is bad for most women's physically and emotionally. But as high heels, with beliefs it does feel "natural" and good..). Just example of few.
So how that end up to be related to it all.. i think that is, as by tricking us to change root words, by making first our self to feel ashamed about a word, and then feeding anonymous feedback about how someone feels bad about this and that.. we let out self to be tricked and controlled to easy, if we not bother to look up ourself, what is the menaing and worth of a word.
Next someone is starting to use another good word bad way.. and then we have to escape from that word also, no ? We ourself, can decide, what is good, and that everything related to female, is holy, good, period! (including, a period..)
http://mytinysecrets.com/the-magical-powers-of-your-hair/
http://mytinysecrets.com/the-magical-powers-of-your-hair/
14 February 2016 13:36
Margus Meigo commented on Dismantle Misogyny's post.
@Third
So about finance more...
as man and anti-women spirits (devils in religious sense), control the up-and-down's of This mechanisms (also Greek-RoMan education based schools, who see women as a toys who have to be tricked with so they can make new mans, as ONLY value they told, for everything else homos was able to provide. Alexander Great - also anti-woman, what he did?).
Hebrews are Matriarchy carriers, this is why the conflict with Greek culture who wanted to use women for secondary pleasure and slaves (and allow them to be "ruling" positions, if needed for population control).
so the Finance
is one of the final control mechanisms for something that by nature can not and should not be controlled (and kept alive same time). This and the New Wave of "Equality" (as it was by greek-romans 2000 years ago, the SAME equality talk) that is just another word for slavery, behind what is locking women in to lower levels of existence and forcing Her to be by wicked man standards. Equal.. in truth, highest of an man can newer reach the beginning of the smallest in a woman. But why it is, religiously so, is long topic. It is simple earth terms also related to woman power to be able instantly leave the Ego if needed (like in situations where another side proves to be more right, or one needs to ask help etc), by that having huge advantage on all directions, unpredictable by "code". Man in another hand needs great strong grow-up school or 10+ years of meditation or/and psychedelics to come near to this kind of behavior, at times. But in spiritually we need to look in to Sumerian times and few Native Americans that are still here, reminding how can be. Like Iroquois and also Hopis it seems to me, besides many other native cultures, including Shamans, Estonians actually.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=female
So about finance more...
as man and anti-women spirits (devils in religious sense), control the up-and-down's of This mechanisms (also Greek-RoMan education based schools, who see women as a toys who have to be tricked with so they can make new mans, as ONLY value they told, for everything else homos was able to provide. Alexander Great - also anti-woman, what he did?).
Hebrews are Matriarchy carriers, this is why the conflict with Greek culture who wanted to use women for secondary pleasure and slaves (and allow them to be "ruling" positions, if needed for population control).
so the Finance
is one of the final control mechanisms for something that by nature can not and should not be controlled (and kept alive same time). This and the New Wave of "Equality" (as it was by greek-romans 2000 years ago, the SAME equality talk) that is just another word for slavery, behind what is locking women in to lower levels of existence and forcing Her to be by wicked man standards. Equal.. in truth, highest of an man can newer reach the beginning of the smallest in a woman. But why it is, religiously so, is long topic. It is simple earth terms also related to woman power to be able instantly leave the Ego if needed (like in situations where another side proves to be more right, or one needs to ask help etc), by that having huge advantage on all directions, unpredictable by "code". Man in another hand needs great strong grow-up school or 10+ years of meditation or/and psychedelics to come near to this kind of behavior, at times. But in spiritually we need to look in to Sumerian times and few Native Americans that are still here, reminding how can be. Like Iroquois and also Hopis it seems to me, besides many other native cultures, including Shamans, Estonians actually.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=female
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=female
14 February 2016 13:36
Margus Meigo commented on Dismantle Misogyny's post.
@Second
So the DIC-tionary says:
(as Words are needed for man originally, women can still know, do, be, feel, organize, with ease, with out any words at all, actually. As She got EXTRA for totally another types of intelligence's. ONLY thing that Women give more to a man is able to calculate - logic, straight lines etc - as that limits another powers usually, so for women for that is a personal man, who is interested of small things but dream big preferably, for a return Women Spirit gifts man with a Life, that is best of a deals comparing the worth of a man without a woman. In Sumerian, first versions of man was not able to reproduce them self so this gift was given by Female Gods. By expressing so, we can see female to be a stronger word then a Women (if non female can be a woman), maybe. You to decide for this time period, to join with a Roots or... just man must know, in the end, all real women, are on the right track anyway, and hurting She does to Herself, is because of Wicked world that man has enjoyed to much, has forced or tricked her to do so from a Love )
feminine (adj.) Look up feminine at Dictionary.com
mid-14c., "of the female sex," from Old French femenin (12c.) "feminine, female; with feminine qualities, effeminate," from Latin femininus "feminine" (in the grammatical sense at first), from femina "woman, female," literally "she who suckles," from root of felare "to suck, suckle" (see fecund). Usual modern sense of "woman-like, proper to or characteristic of women" is recorded from mid-15c. Related: Femininely.
The interplay of meanings now represented roughly in female "characteristic of the sex that bears children," feminine "having qualities considered appropriate to a woman," and effeminate "having female qualities in a bad sense, unmanly," and the attempt to keep them clear of each other, has led to many coinages. Among nouns, in addition to feminity "womanishness," femininity, femaleness, feminineness (1810, "female qualities"), there is feminitude (1878); feminility "womanliness" (1824); feminie "womankind" (late 14c.); femality (17c., "effeminacy;" 1754 "female nature"); feminacy "female nature" (1829); feminicity "quality or condition of being a woman" (1843). Also feminality (1640s, "quality or state of being female"), from rare adjective feminal "female, belonging to a woman" (late 14c.), from Old French feminal. And femineity "quality or state of being feminine," also "effeminate; womanly," from Latin femineus "of a woman, pertaining to a woman."
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=feminine&allowed_in_frame=0
So the DIC-tionary says:
(as Words are needed for man originally, women can still know, do, be, feel, organize, with ease, with out any words at all, actually. As She got EXTRA for totally another types of intelligence's. ONLY thing that Women give more to a man is able to calculate - logic, straight lines etc - as that limits another powers usually, so for women for that is a personal man, who is interested of small things but dream big preferably, for a return Women Spirit gifts man with a Life, that is best of a deals comparing the worth of a man without a woman. In Sumerian, first versions of man was not able to reproduce them self so this gift was given by Female Gods. By expressing so, we can see female to be a stronger word then a Women (if non female can be a woman), maybe. You to decide for this time period, to join with a Roots or... just man must know, in the end, all real women, are on the right track anyway, and hurting She does to Herself, is because of Wicked world that man has enjoyed to much, has forced or tricked her to do so from a Love )
feminine (adj.) Look up feminine at Dictionary.com
mid-14c., "of the female sex," from Old French femenin (12c.) "feminine, female; with feminine qualities, effeminate," from Latin femininus "feminine" (in the grammatical sense at first), from femina "woman, female," literally "she who suckles," from root of felare "to suck, suckle" (see fecund). Usual modern sense of "woman-like, proper to or characteristic of women" is recorded from mid-15c. Related: Femininely.
The interplay of meanings now represented roughly in female "characteristic of the sex that bears children," feminine "having qualities considered appropriate to a woman," and effeminate "having female qualities in a bad sense, unmanly," and the attempt to keep them clear of each other, has led to many coinages. Among nouns, in addition to feminity "womanishness," femininity, femaleness, feminineness (1810, "female qualities"), there is feminitude (1878); feminility "womanliness" (1824); feminie "womankind" (late 14c.); femality (17c., "effeminacy;" 1754 "female nature"); feminacy "female nature" (1829); feminicity "quality or condition of being a woman" (1843). Also feminality (1640s, "quality or state of being female"), from rare adjective feminal "female, belonging to a woman" (late 14c.), from Old French feminal. And femineity "quality or state of being feminine," also "effeminate; womanly," from Latin femineus "of a woman, pertaining to a woman."
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=feminine&allowed_in_frame=0
http://dictionary.com/
14 February 2016 13:35
Margus Meigo commented on Dismantle Misogyny's post.
@First, my four comment might seem to hard to read, for my English and topic spectrum, but please try to give me some feedback.
For being a natural aristocratic Matriarch supporter i am not tuned in to new age political feminist latest trends so well, but excuse if i am to wrong about it, but was the word "FEM-i-nist" come from relation to a word "female" - no?,
as there is also #Womenist's out there, who aim directly, for what it seems to country (royal) woman as a communist-capitalist trick to keep women focused mostly on finance (work slave!), politics, emotion hypes, hurt, etc instead of an real powers and values, life.
It would be no use for a wicked-man to trick women to focus on plants, feeling, actual beauty, mothers, practicality - as these are domains women rule with ease anyway if she is not bothered, but to trick women to focus on virtual scam system called finance, that is ruled, invented and managed to the end by man and bad spirits... this is something of an use, to toy around with a women. But with great care, even this control system perhaps can be used for good, in future. Once the religion is renewed (foundations of Christianity is Matriarchy, Vegetarianism actually, so the Islam must obey to it also in the end - as they them self have enough in Quran to put man on its place, if read right way (by Christian like feminist point of view interpretations, is possible with everything that is correct ))
So about the Word, "feminism" "female"
In the dictionary they also say about a word, that it is "female emancipation"
also in biology they say feminism is: "development of female secondary sexual characteristics in a male"
//seriously..
So,
As the feminism word comes from feminine in #France (one of the great cultures of using women for political and war purposes starting from Nomads),
For being a natural aristocratic Matriarch supporter i am not tuned in to new age political feminist latest trends so well, but excuse if i am to wrong about it, but was the word "FEM-i-nist" come from relation to a word "female" - no?,
as there is also #Womenist's out there, who aim directly, for what it seems to country (royal) woman as a communist-capitalist trick to keep women focused mostly on finance (work slave!), politics, emotion hypes, hurt, etc instead of an real powers and values, life.
It would be no use for a wicked-man to trick women to focus on plants, feeling, actual beauty, mothers, practicality - as these are domains women rule with ease anyway if she is not bothered, but to trick women to focus on virtual scam system called finance, that is ruled, invented and managed to the end by man and bad spirits... this is something of an use, to toy around with a women. But with great care, even this control system perhaps can be used for good, in future. Once the religion is renewed (foundations of Christianity is Matriarchy, Vegetarianism actually, so the Islam must obey to it also in the end - as they them self have enough in Quran to put man on its place, if read right way (by Christian like feminist point of view interpretations, is possible with everything that is correct ))
So about the Word, "feminism" "female"
In the dictionary they also say about a word, that it is "female emancipation"
also in biology they say feminism is: "development of female secondary sexual characteristics in a male"
//seriously..
So,
As the feminism word comes from feminine in #France (one of the great cultures of using women for political and war purposes starting from Nomads),
14 February 2016 13:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
okey i will do my best will see how it go
Bros
Bros
14 February 2016 12:07
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
fak.. i think i got hard time explaining my philosophy, where human and woman are not as same thing
as a man and human species. I really got a choose my words there, for being a aristocratic Matriarch i have been banned from all my local feminist groups long time ago, ... last time i got banned for protecting Vagina Wolf female part of her, by telling that She had really good and true feelings for Her husband, that it was beautiful how she explained her feelings as women should
(i can try to find this piece of writing where she explains her deep love for her last husband.. worth reading and sharing .. and sharing on Fem-inist circles... )
as a man and human species. I really got a choose my words there, for being a aristocratic Matriarch i have been banned from all my local feminist groups long time ago, ... last time i got banned for protecting Vagina Wolf female part of her, by telling that She had really good and true feelings for Her husband, that it was beautiful how she explained her feelings as women should
(i can try to find this piece of writing where she explains her deep love for her last husband.. worth reading and sharing .. and sharing on Fem-inist circles... )
14 February 2016 12:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so most likely you can not say "girl" soon also
but have to say "human Yong women"
but have to say "human Yong women"
14 February 2016 11:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and then someone " I hate "you girls". My friends and I are all over 70."
14 February 2016 11:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
someone added "THANK YOU! I hate it when I hear women call other women "females". It is dehumanizing, it is misogynist, and the *internalized* misogyny, that hurts my heart the most."
14 February 2016 11:55
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
But he did point out a good point that "God, the number of dudes offended by this is over the roof... Get a grip. -G"
14 February 2016 11:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
their actions sounds like disgenitale
14 February 2016 11:49
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
did they notice.. that they have supressive, attacive... dis-MAN-tle in their page name.. these man dissing.. and also, as dismantling is mostly of how man brain works.. so it all becomes clear now...
14 February 2016 11:35
Margus Meigo replied to Jackie Christensen's comment.
chomon! (women) tits are the best, on this we have to get straight right here!
( :
( :
14 February 2016 11:33
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
"human women"
seriously.. . not just a Women, but human women by indicating there is NON HUMAN Womens... we should ban him/her i think ..
seriously.. . not just a Women, but human women by indicating there is NON HUMAN Womens... we should ban him/her i think ..
14 February 2016 11:31
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
haa naish :D
Need ju minig ULME rasked need klaasid
oh, õnneks kraanaga veel !
Nu jah, ega te virus ole :D
Need ju minig ULME rasked need klaasid
oh, õnneks kraanaga veel !
Nu jah, ega te virus ole :D
14 February 2016 11:26
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Kõik elemendid ristist südameni on olemas, isegi rohelised spordi ketsid kiireks liikumiseks, väga tuus (Y) (Y) (Y)
14 February 2016 11:26
Margus Meigo commented on Roberto Fox's post.
an not bother to read but was people a jerks or what?
14 February 2016 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on Roberto Fox's post.
lol @ italian wmen are fine in the end :D
man u one of the kind
man u one of the kind
14 February 2016 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on Roberto Fox's post.
That was like a December 23 i think
14 February 2016 03:11
Margus Meigo commented on Roberto Fox's post.
This is some serious evidence she got right there
14 February 2016 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Kuidas oli ?
13 February 2016 23:18
Margus Meigo replied to Herbert Murd's comment.
Savikas on kordumatu legend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-WH9SPG3_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-WH9SPG3_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-WH9SPG3_U
13 February 2016 23:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Will add more cultural pictures here soon : )
13 February 2016 21:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Will add more meaningful pictures here soon : )
13 February 2016 21:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Will add more work pictures here soon : )
13 February 2016 21:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Will add more Youth pictures here soon : )
13 February 2016 21:07
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Real women do not beat up the bearded guys
If they would be an homo activist, we can understand
as they are here to eliminate women, LONG time ago
If they would be an homo activist, we can understand
as they are here to eliminate women, LONG time ago
13 February 2016 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Does this people ever take time to clean it who make it dirty ?
13 February 2016 19:32
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's photo.
more kind of pictures i except to see Steve : )
13 February 2016 19:21
Margus Meigo commented on Imre Arakas's photo.
Jumal tänatud Islami eest
13 February 2016 19:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vampiiridest kuni
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HWRa0URfIg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HWRa0URfIg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HWRa0URfIg
13 February 2016 18:03
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
ma ise, et elutu linn ja Hzd sisetunde nullinud ära
13 February 2016 17:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Wau, meeldiv oli kuulda, et täna Kristlik raadio (järgmine saade Naistega) hakkas vaikselt avama ka Lutheri tagataustu ja inimesi meeldivalt üles äratama sellest lõksust... äitah!
13 February 2016 14:50
Margus Meigo replied to Risto Kivi's comment.
Isiklikust mõttest, hea rariteet : )
13 February 2016 14:46
Margus Meigo replied to Risto Kivi's comment.
Risto Kivi and so they go!
Muidugi religiooselt vaadates tundub, et inimestel oleks rahusteid vaja ja nõustamist, rahulikku looduses istumist, linnulaulu kuulamist... et päris ära sõidavad muidu oma peade raputamistega (pea kiiresti raputamine kindlasti ei peaks teadvuse selginemisele kaasa aitama)
Muidugi religiooselt vaadates tundub, et inimestel oleks rahusteid vaja ja nõustamist, rahulikku looduses istumist, linnulaulu kuulamist... et päris ära sõidavad muidu oma peade raputamistega (pea kiiresti raputamine kindlasti ei peaks teadvuse selginemisele kaasa aitama)
13 February 2016 14:45
Margus Meigo replied to Erik Miido's comment.
õnneks enamusel GPS selge peale 5endat eluaastat
13 February 2016 14:42
Margus Meigo commented on Fox News's video.
This news anchor needs deep spiritual help, She got mother issues and pouring it out against Clinton,
besides spreading communist propaganda
and there is spirit inside You who enjoys massacre and terror, anyone can hear that who has above average person interpretation skills.
besides spreading communist propaganda
and there is spirit inside You who enjoys massacre and terror, anyone can hear that who has above average person interpretation skills.
13 February 2016 12:22
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Elf's post.
Greetings from a Bull, Taurus : )
this talk has potential but to simplistic mistakes so it makes me worry...who is behind it?
To many illogical connections , if am would write down, there will be about near 50 mistakes
this talk has potential but to simplistic mistakes so it makes me worry...who is behind it?
To many illogical connections , if am would write down, there will be about near 50 mistakes
12 February 2016 22:16
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Elf's post.
the ones who do not deserve, are gone from a earth.. earth mind is moovable.. it, she can move away from the ones who live in it.. as if one does not know directions where earth go, they end up steping with a wrong technology.... so many are on the edge right now anyway..
12 February 2016 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Devon Pegues's photo.
Post the news link as well : )
12 February 2016 06:55
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Devon Pegues's photo.
Good one!
12 February 2016 06:51
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Devon Pegues's photo.
Colors in order : ))
12 February 2016 06:48
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Devon Pegues's photo.
Powerline
12 February 2016 06:47
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Devon Pegues's photo.
Who is She ? : )
12 February 2016 06:46
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Devon Pegues's photo.
Nice warm dress man!
Much more natural!
Much more natural!
12 February 2016 06:46
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Devon Pegues's photo.
Looks like might be Your father grand
12 February 2016 06:45
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Devon Pegues's photo.
This guy looks smart and interesting one, who is it?
12 February 2016 06:44
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Devon Pegues's photo.
The white one here needs some spiritual advice on softness
12 February 2016 06:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
indeed 83
12 February 2016 06:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"He didn't just show up with an incredible Donald Trump voice — he came with his team of hair and makeup people who put him though hours of prosthetic every day"
// (every day of these 4 days we guess..)
"...Depp and the comedians added a lot of improvisation, parts of Trump's very real best-selling memoir/advice book "The Art of the Deal," which the Republican presidential .."
"Konner, Depp and Funny or Die joined forces through a typical Hollywood meeting between two power players. The creator of the humor-video site, Adam McKay (also director of "The Big Short"), and Depp had a meeting months ago to talk over projects, when the "Art of the Deal" idea was pitched to Depp,"
"filled with loads of cameos (Patton Oswalt, Ron Howard, Alf, and even the kid from the Oscar-nominated "Room") and '80s references, not to mention Depp playing Trump as an egomaniac who disrespects women and minorities every chance he gets."
// sounds like Ad to me, specially the spirit behind last sentence for today's viewers mind in combination of expressed spirits of article
// oh, rich white guy disrespects women and "minorities ".. goota see that one.. just for fun.. would many think, and pick up and ideas there that is implemented in to.. the beginning and end, to show off.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-the-funny-or-die-donald-trump-spoof-was-made-2016-2
"Trump has it all. Money, power, respect, and an Eastern European bride. But.."
#FODTrumpMovie
// (every day of these 4 days we guess..)
"...Depp and the comedians added a lot of improvisation, parts of Trump's very real best-selling memoir/advice book "The Art of the Deal," which the Republican presidential .."
"Konner, Depp and Funny or Die joined forces through a typical Hollywood meeting between two power players. The creator of the humor-video site, Adam McKay (also director of "The Big Short"), and Depp had a meeting months ago to talk over projects, when the "Art of the Deal" idea was pitched to Depp,"
"filled with loads of cameos (Patton Oswalt, Ron Howard, Alf, and even the kid from the Oscar-nominated "Room") and '80s references, not to mention Depp playing Trump as an egomaniac who disrespects women and minorities every chance he gets."
// sounds like Ad to me, specially the spirit behind last sentence for today's viewers mind in combination of expressed spirits of article
// oh, rich white guy disrespects women and "minorities ".. goota see that one.. just for fun.. would many think, and pick up and ideas there that is implemented in to.. the beginning and end, to show off.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-the-funny-or-die-donald-trump-spoof-was-made-2016-2
"Trump has it all. Money, power, respect, and an Eastern European bride. But.."
#FODTrumpMovie
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-the-funny-or-die-donald-trump-spoof-was-made-2016-2
12 February 2016 05:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
most likely because of the help of the a bit of an communist comedy people who do make things but fail to realize how these things play out in human mass minds and who it helps in the end and how it damages..and who..
"But for Konner, the biggest worry wasn't staying true to the book, but whether Trump would fade away from the presidential race by the time the video went online.
"Boy, was I nightmarishly wrong about that," he said. "I mean, some of our hardest jokes look tame from what the real Trump has said or does or tweeted the last few months."
Is he curious what Trump thinks of his comedic spin on "The Art of the Deal"?
"I am, but my gut tells me this will not be very shocking to him," Konner said. "I can't see this affecting him.""
"But for Konner, the biggest worry wasn't staying true to the book, but whether Trump would fade away from the presidential race by the time the video went online.
"Boy, was I nightmarishly wrong about that," he said. "I mean, some of our hardest jokes look tame from what the real Trump has said or does or tweeted the last few months."
Is he curious what Trump thinks of his comedic spin on "The Art of the Deal"?
"I am, but my gut tells me this will not be very shocking to him," Konner said. "I can't see this affecting him.""
12 February 2016 05:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja nood kellel veel pole .. täies omaduses, siis teame asukohtasi
12 February 2016 05:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuna hing on alles
12 February 2016 05:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
jah, aga see eest hakkab olema rikkaim ja hingega
12 February 2016 05:23
Margus Meigo replied to Isa Linda's comment.
This is me, being serious
12 February 2016 05:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
okey, i should look movie before posting it,
This one was.. well, lets say it should have been better on 80% at the times
This one was.. well, lets say it should have been better on 80% at the times
12 February 2016 05:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nimes peitub võlu
nimes avaldub tähendus
liialt tihti, et eirata
nimes avaldub tähendus
liialt tihti, et eirata
12 February 2016 05:00
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's post.
ammu juba kullake... ammu juba...
Lihtsalt see arusaam on alles jõudma hakanud, ALLES nüüd psüholoogide seltsi.. kes teab kaua edasi läheb enne kui seda süstemaatiliselt ravima osatakse hakata nagu mitmeid muid haigusi mille välja juurimise asemel klientidel pead silitatakse lohutavate sloogonitega mis inimest põrgus edasi hoiab
Lihtsalt see arusaam on alles jõudma hakanud, ALLES nüüd psüholoogide seltsi.. kes teab kaua edasi läheb enne kui seda süstemaatiliselt ravima osatakse hakata nagu mitmeid muid haigusi mille välja juurimise asemel klientidel pead silitatakse lohutavate sloogonitega mis inimest põrgus edasi hoiab
12 February 2016 04:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Alfade isakuju
11 February 2016 20:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
väga fkedup fantaasiad Sul armas naine :D
11 February 2016 20:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jeerum, naish
11 February 2016 20:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või võiks
11 February 2016 20:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
naish, keegi ju peab,
11 February 2016 20:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ma häsit arusaadav
11 February 2016 20:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
not worry about it dear,
kes Su kaela ajab samal ajal kui ise ennast süüdi tunned, on enamasti Sust tagapool nagunii õiguse osas
kes Su kaela ajab samal ajal kui ise ennast süüdi tunned, on enamasti Sust tagapool nagunii õiguse osas
11 February 2016 20:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu jah, see porgandikasvatusest uus level vist
kuidas tunne oli pulmas?
kuidas tunne oli pulmas?
11 February 2016 20:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eestlane on 3/4 osas olemuses niiehknii
11 February 2016 20:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
õige suund
11 February 2016 20:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
autuga
11 February 2016 20:44
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
yo vunts!
11 February 2016 20:44
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
aga pole eriti kedagi leidnud kes viitsiks edasi aidata teha ja reaalseks seda teha
11 February 2016 20:31
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
umbe taolise tabeli hakkasin tegema..
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pnuy1IMjLIYjZhCyWeZDOpkUpwALl1-5WNLaJioqj3M/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pnuy1IMjLIYjZhCyWeZDOpkUpwALl1-5WNLaJioqj3M/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pnuy1IMjLIYjZhCyWeZDOpkUpwALl1-5WNLaJioqj3M/edit?usp=sharing
11 February 2016 20:30
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
Hmm.. see tundub nagu relevant
tel me more
tel me more
11 February 2016 20:26
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
See see maailm kus Sa muidu oled vast : )
11 February 2016 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
Kiir :p
11 February 2016 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
jey, Eesti naine :p
11 February 2016 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
Sweet : ))
11 February 2016 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
tuus
11 February 2016 20:22
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
kes vanasse kaevu kukub enne uue valmis saamist,
omab võimalust, et ta sealt välja tiritakse
omab võimalust, et ta sealt välja tiritakse
11 February 2016 20:22
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
indeed
11 February 2016 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
mis mis
11 February 2016 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
Toimetad seal?
11 February 2016 20:19
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
Wau! Need kassi pildid Sul eriti hästi tulnd välja.. neid momente taanud.. väga supper!
11 February 2016 20:19
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
wau :D
11 February 2016 20:18
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
:D
Ja kass on nagu tõesti just äranud pool tuikuvas olekus, et kus naug ise pool energilisest unest liialt kiiresti ärkad ja proovid tajuda maailma kus oled..
Ja kass on nagu tõesti just äranud pool tuikuvas olekus, et kus naug ise pool energilisest unest liialt kiiresti ärkad ja proovid tajuda maailma kus oled..
11 February 2016 20:18
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
D:D:D:D:D
11 February 2016 20:17
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
yayah, show off:p
11 February 2016 20:16
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
tulketas seda autot meelde https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83l-tSvp9Jk :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83l-tSvp9Jk
11 February 2016 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
fa-fa
11 February 2016 20:10
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
on ikka noored :D
11 February 2016 20:10
Margus Meigo commented on Lele Reinsoo's photo.
oot kumb on kumb _?
11 February 2016 20:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nende jaoks püüangi kes ise püüavad, kes poole sõnanagi küsivad nagu neil oleks huvi ... seni aga rohkem see tuleviku, enda ja node jaoks kes vaikides näevad ja teavad
11 February 2016 10:48
Margus Meigo commented on Yasmin Cassim's link.
Looks like friendly guy
11 February 2016 10:18
Margus Meigo commented on Raj Mia's photo.
The anti Jewish propaganda is from communists, to keep religion co-operation broken, so Islam and Christianity would be impossible to co-operate and join as one force against same empire that Roman Empire represented before. There is one country that is called Third ROme... and they got started from byzantine and Nomadic robbers called "Rus" ... we need to liberate all nations from anti religious point of views
11 February 2016 10:16
Margus Meigo commented on Raj Mia's photo.
And the Religious sing is also a fake from them , as real Jewish and Hebrew are pacifists
True that
True that
11 February 2016 10:13
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Mones's photo.
: )
11 February 2016 08:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i also like to make peace between various types of insects and elements
11 February 2016 08:44
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Mones's post.
One moment.. You give us a negative image or you use us to fight with a negative or.. If You got character for me that includes shamanism and alteration of faith of nations in many kinds, then.. Like
11 February 2016 08:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja veel õppimisest:
https://www.facebook.com/Pere24.ee/photos/a.205175049498389.64687.204894879526406/1240433079305909/
https://www.facebook.com/Pere24.ee/photos/a.205175049498389.64687.204894879526406/1240433079305909/
11 February 2016 08:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Yo yo : )
11 February 2016 08:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
balence of 3 worlds
11 February 2016 06:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
W. A. Mozart - The Mozartean Players: Steven Lubin (klaver), Stanley Ritchie (viiul), Myron Lutzke (tšello) - Trio B-duur K.502; I-Allegro
11 February 2016 06:16
Margus Meigo commented on Patricia A Byrd Marchese's post.
.:.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1549572/reviews?ref_=tt_urv
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1549572/reviews?ref_=tt_urv
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1549572/reviews?ref_=tt_urv
10 February 2016 20:39
Margus Meigo commented on Patricia A Byrd Marchese's post.
that's where the word "good" comes from, as we all know sooner or even before
10 February 2016 04:55
Margus Meigo commented on Patricia A Byrd Marchese's post.
So in a way... we should all the time under-stand ... as when You sometimes do not under-stand god.. that's not a good thing..how ever way one looks that word + adding right story behind (as only when we forget why we are here, can we lack understanding... to realize is simple, one wants good, and only best good there can be possible out of all final outcomes we our self can help to bring more near to us)
10 February 2016 04:54
Margus Meigo commented on Patricia A Byrd Marchese's post.
With god is as with a Women, You just must trust, that in the end, She wants good for You, and only the best good that total outcome can be that we can be worth.
10 February 2016 04:50
Margus Meigo commented on Sylvia Ledesma's post.
Hi tech, once again : )
(but still, more like windows 3.11 compared to what ones was used to : ))
(but still, more like windows 3.11 compared to what ones was used to : ))
10 February 2016 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on Sylvia Ledesma's post.
Plastic shamans as they called
10 February 2016 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on Sylvia Ledesma's post.
Makes You wonder, why would anyone do it right : )
10 February 2016 02:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just little bit related : )
10 February 2016 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on Sylvia Ledesma's post.
" Ema " means mother in Estonian, in Est,
" e.m.a. " means Before Our Time, as "A.D " in English
" e.m.a. " means Before Our Time, as "A.D " in English
10 February 2016 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on Sylvia Ledesma's post.
Be careful, anyone try to promote their five stars on You : )
10 February 2016 01:57
Margus Meigo commented on Medical Medium's photo.
Looks loike WildBerries to us : )
10 February 2016 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Food and cannabis
10 February 2016 01:01
Margus Meigo commented on Patricia A Byrd Marchese's post.
Just inside one tree, or stone, can have worlds deep and big
it has been reported by acients
and experienced partly my self
it has been reported by acients
and experienced partly my self
10 February 2016 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on Patricia A Byrd Marchese's post.
Outer and inner ones... : )
And from inside dimension scale, much larger then outside surrounding diameter reach
But already, that is large, as it takes years, to experience and feel just one spot of woods at times
And from inside dimension scale, much larger then outside surrounding diameter reach
But already, that is large, as it takes years, to experience and feel just one spot of woods at times
10 February 2016 00:57
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Elf's post.
Add me to contacts Richard : )
And others from here who have high interest on good human benefiting changes : )
And others from here who have high interest on good human benefiting changes : )
10 February 2016 00:49
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
vastlalestakukkel, jummy!
10 February 2016 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
just for reminder, 3 main political parties in Isreal, are rather against isreal, nothing to do with preserving gos word or jewsih, hebrew culture.. so lets not get in to "isreal this and that.." ... to much of an layers and backround story for that.. just remember: proper Jew is near best withe man You can meet as a culture, who has managed to preserve Matriarchy
9 February 2016 18:01
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
Anyone, blaming anything n Jewish other then they are to much of an passifists needs to be cured
9 February 2016 18:00
Margus Meigo replied to Elijah Solomon Olig's comment.
But still,.. the story is that for monkey them self.. red is not a favored color, perhaps to others.. will look in to that more
9 February 2016 13:59
Margus Meigo replied to Elijah Solomon Olig's comment.
Thanks!
9 February 2016 13:58
Margus Meigo replied to Elijah Solomon Olig's comment.
Jup, iknow, ofthen they say carry something red to scare off bad spirits, but does not seem to work for Soviet and other countries under red flag with pentagrams on it :p
9 February 2016 13:58
Margus Meigo commented on Osvald Soobel's post.
Group: Eesti(keelne) ulme
naistele ikka mõeldakse igast piinariiste välja
ehk .. need kontsakingad ka kaovad varsti..9 February 2016 12:44
Margus Meigo commented on Erkki Lindpere's post.
Group: Eesti(keelne) ulme
Väga vahva otsing9 February 2016 12:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ELU-L .. : ) " Like the month of Elul (i.e., the month that precedes Rosh Hashanah and the New Year in the fall), the last month of the Biblical calendar is traditionally a time to make "New Year's Resolutions" and to turn away from sin before the start of the New Year of spring (i.e., Rosh Chodashim). The month of Adar is therefore a season given to us each year to begin preparing for the holiday of Passover. "
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Fall_Holidays/Elul/elul.html
Loodaaga, et sel pole me keelega miskit pistmist
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Fall_Holidays/Elul/elul.html
Loodaaga, et sel pole me keelega miskit pistmist
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Fall_Holidays/Elul/elul.html
9 February 2016 11:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi Eestis on aasta 10 229 kanti praegu... olgugi, et maailm u 6 tuhat aastat tagasi loodi (umbe 5776 ?)
Praegu on 30 ShVat, ehk siis kohe on 3 Adari aastalõpu kuud algamas..., ehk eel viimased kuud aastas. Kuu mis peaks positiivsust ja head tooma... mis ka mõistlik, sest kevad algamas ju...
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Rosh_Chodesh/Adar/adar.html
Praegu on 30 ShVat, ehk siis kohe on 3 Adari aastalõpu kuud algamas..., ehk eel viimased kuud aastas. Kuu mis peaks positiivsust ja head tooma... mis ka mõistlik, sest kevad algamas ju...
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Rosh_Chodesh/Adar/adar.html
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Rosh_Chodesh/Adar/adar.html
9 February 2016 11:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ma rohkem brünette ootaks endale
või siis kedagi, kes juukseid ei värvi.. nätab eneseteadlikust rohkem
kuid eks hing ole igal naisel parem kui meil kokku
või siis kedagi, kes juukseid ei värvi.. nätab eneseteadlikust rohkem
kuid eks hing ole igal naisel parem kui meil kokku
9 February 2016 11:30
Margus Meigo commented on Kätlin Pirk's photo.
Ega ei ole hea jah, et lapse energiaruumi võõrad satuksid nii vara, see rikub nii mõndagi... kuid mine tea miks nemad seda siin sedais mõtlesid, arvestades seda teist väljavõtet mis Sul oli
9 February 2016 10:16
Margus Meigo commented on Kätlin Pirk's photo.
Okey, see eelmine lõik alla aastase lapsele mitte võõraid tolle energia ruumi tuua, on täiesti tark otsus kui see lause siin ehmatas küll ärkvele.
Muidugi ,ega päris normaalne polegi loomi kodushoidmisega ahistada, eriti kui linnas elada.. aga sõna "hävitada.." wau, see ületas ootused
Muidugi ,ega päris normaalne polegi loomi kodushoidmisega ahistada, eriti kui linnas elada.. aga sõna "hävitada.." wau, see ületas ootused
9 February 2016 10:15
Margus Meigo commented on Imre Arakas's post.
Oot see enda või võõras vara mis sääl kõnnib?
9 February 2016 10:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
unless it bothers forest
9 February 2016 10:09
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
No
9 February 2016 10:08
Margus Meigo replied to Getter-Agnes Aareleid's comment.
Oih, sorry, vaatasin Su profiili, see suht normaalne tundub, ju see Sul iroonia oli
9 February 2016 10:07
Margus Meigo replied to Getter-Agnes Aareleid's comment.
Mis osa siin seksistlik oli?
Ega sa ometi selle naiste vastase võrgõigusluse või "feminismi" (mis nõuab meestega võrdsust), ehk siis homoagenda ohver ole kullakene ?
Ega sa ometi selle naiste vastase võrgõigusluse või "feminismi" (mis nõuab meestega võrdsust), ehk siis homoagenda ohver ole kullakene ?
9 February 2016 10:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Siin mu algne tunde väljendus(ed), mida seoses selle artikliga postitasin:
See muidugi üldse kahju, et orjatööstus vanaaja vallutatud orja tööstuse piirkondadest nii hulluks on läinud, et mölemad nii mees kui naine peavad tööl käima, muidu ei saagi kummagi palgast ära elatud, kui just ühe inimese palk üle 1500 ole,
mida muidugi enamusel veel pole, isegi soome toimetulekutoetuse suurus veel ei ole...
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prantsusmaal miinimum on üle 1450ne.. meil on aga lihtsalt 450ne ringis.. bruto. Arvestades, et olmekuludeks inimesel kergesti 300-400 eurot võib kuluda siis Selles osas peab midagi väga omapärast oskama ette võtta siin maal mingi võlur...
Ja SEE on palgalõhe, mitte, meie meeste ja naiste vahel pole palgalõhet, vaid INIMESTE ja ELU vahel., on palgalõhe. ...sest kui inimene normaalses olekus ei ole suuteline saama palka, mis vabalt kaaslase ja lapse ära toidaks, kataks,
siis ei ole tegu PALGAGA vaid orjakopikatega, mis inimest hoiab sundolukorras.
Sellest PEAB hakkama aru saama, et IGASUGUNE palk, on alla IGASUGUST arvestust, kui sellega inimene "ise" ainult suudab ära elada ja sedagi enne kuu lõppu pool muretsedes.
Kuid jah... ühe inimese jaoks "piisav" palk ei ole tegelikult MINGI palk kui seda võõra poolt makstakse, sellest siin laagris raske aru saada... sest see on ju lisa töö, kellegi võõra jaoks.
Mul veel pole õigemaid sõnu selle asja selgitamiseks, milline uskumatult avalik haige olukord on inimestele peale pandud, standardiks tehtud... sest jahutakse majanduse olukorrast ja turu ja tähtede seisudest, tegelikult aga kui firma ennast rikastab rohkem kui mitukorda samal ajal töölistele kes ta äri võimalikuks teevad makstakse sellist palka, et teine ei saa pere luua selle pealt kohe peale esimest palgapäeva siis tegu on kriminaalsete orjapidajatega, kes Sind sunnivad suur mass orjanduses olema olukorras kus mõlemad pooled peavad tööl olema ning seega takistavad reaalse armastuse tekkimist ja elus hoidmist.
(kui just tegu pole Näljamängudes olevate noorte teadvusega, kes suudavad üksteisel mõtted hoida, et ajutiselt orjapidaja juures ebainimlikku tööd tehes omavahel kooselu kindlustada lühikese ajaga, et siis edasi liikuda vabaduse suunas (kus halvimal juhul üks poolest peab võõra juures pool päeva kodust eemal olema tehes asju mida otseselt oma perele vaja pole, mida tasuta ei teeks))
See muidugi üldse kahju, et orjatööstus vanaaja vallutatud orja tööstuse piirkondadest nii hulluks on läinud, et mölemad nii mees kui naine peavad tööl käima, muidu ei saagi kummagi palgast ära elatud, kui just ühe inimese palk üle 1500 ole,
mida muidugi enamusel veel pole, isegi soome toimetulekutoetuse suurus veel ei ole...
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prantsusmaal miinimum on üle 1450ne.. meil on aga lihtsalt 450ne ringis.. bruto. Arvestades, et olmekuludeks inimesel kergesti 300-400 eurot võib kuluda siis Selles osas peab midagi väga omapärast oskama ette võtta siin maal mingi võlur...
Ja SEE on palgalõhe, mitte, meie meeste ja naiste vahel pole palgalõhet, vaid INIMESTE ja ELU vahel., on palgalõhe. ...sest kui inimene normaalses olekus ei ole suuteline saama palka, mis vabalt kaaslase ja lapse ära toidaks, kataks,
siis ei ole tegu PALGAGA vaid orjakopikatega, mis inimest hoiab sundolukorras.
Sellest PEAB hakkama aru saama, et IGASUGUNE palk, on alla IGASUGUST arvestust, kui sellega inimene "ise" ainult suudab ära elada ja sedagi enne kuu lõppu pool muretsedes.
Kuid jah... ühe inimese jaoks "piisav" palk ei ole tegelikult MINGI palk kui seda võõra poolt makstakse, sellest siin laagris raske aru saada... sest see on ju lisa töö, kellegi võõra jaoks.
Mul veel pole õigemaid sõnu selle asja selgitamiseks, milline uskumatult avalik haige olukord on inimestele peale pandud, standardiks tehtud... sest jahutakse majanduse olukorrast ja turu ja tähtede seisudest, tegelikult aga kui firma ennast rikastab rohkem kui mitukorda samal ajal töölistele kes ta äri võimalikuks teevad makstakse sellist palka, et teine ei saa pere luua selle pealt kohe peale esimest palgapäeva siis tegu on kriminaalsete orjapidajatega, kes Sind sunnivad suur mass orjanduses olema olukorras kus mõlemad pooled peavad tööl olema ning seega takistavad reaalse armastuse tekkimist ja elus hoidmist.
(kui just tegu pole Näljamängudes olevate noorte teadvusega, kes suudavad üksteisel mõtted hoida, et ajutiselt orjapidaja juures ebainimlikku tööd tehes omavahel kooselu kindlustada lühikese ajaga, et siis edasi liikuda vabaduse suunas (kus halvimal juhul üks poolest peab võõra juures pool päeva kodust eemal olema tehes asju mida otseselt oma perele vaja pole, mida tasuta ei teeks))
9 February 2016 10:04
Margus Meigo commented on Postimees's link.
Wau., tõsiselt wau, nii ausat ja asjakohast kommentaari poleks osanud loota meie meediast niipea veel, postimees teeb head uut standardit.
alguses alahindasin artiklit sellepõhjal ette ära mida inimesed siin FB tolle kohta kommentaarivad, arvates, et on järgmise rooma-kommunistliku impeeriumi võrdõigusluse plämaga, kus naisi proovitakse suruda meeste tasemele kavalate manipulatsioonidega reaalsuse osas, kuid tegelikult oli kogu artikli mõte ja sisu suund hoopis sügavam ja targem
Nu poisid ja tüdrukud ongi ju erinevad nagu öö ja päev, kuna see nüüdseks päris ära unustatud.. siis mine tea mida kõike muud kurba siit veel sündida võib lisaks sellele mida juba näha
palga mure muidugi väike asi selle artikli mure osas, ja üllatav kui ausalt see lõpus kokku võetud on, nagu oluline vaimne pööre on artikli lõpus tehtud, kuig seda artiklit peaks Alt Ülesse lugema, siis saaks palju õigema pildi ja suurem hulk inimesi aru millest jutt käib.
Nagu:
"649 õpilasest kaks mainis, et õpilase kuvandisse võiks kuuluda loovus ja koostöö. «Küll aga nimetati palju kohusetunnet, kuulekust, koolitükkide ärategemist, kohalkäimist – need on instrumentaalsed asjad. Isegi huvi asjade vastu oli vähe mainitud. See kuvand oli ka alarmeeriv ja see pole õpilase süü, et see nii on. Individuaalne isiksus läheb koolis kaduma,» kurvastas Kuurme."
"Küsimusele, mis teda selles uuringus kõige enam üllatas, vastas Kuurme: «Me tahaksime saavutada, et lõpetaksime jutu, et kool sobib tüdrukule – tegelikult ei sobi see kummalegi soole. Kooli õppetund, koolitöö protsess on küll praegu muutumises, aga kuniks püsivad meil massikombinaadid ja massimentaliteet, ei ole midagi head näha.»"
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alguses alahindasin artiklit sellepõhjal ette ära mida inimesed siin FB tolle kohta kommentaarivad, arvates, et on järgmise rooma-kommunistliku impeeriumi võrdõigusluse plämaga, kus naisi proovitakse suruda meeste tasemele kavalate manipulatsioonidega reaalsuse osas, kuid tegelikult oli kogu artikli mõte ja sisu suund hoopis sügavam ja targem
Nu poisid ja tüdrukud ongi ju erinevad nagu öö ja päev, kuna see nüüdseks päris ära unustatud.. siis mine tea mida kõike muud kurba siit veel sündida võib lisaks sellele mida juba näha
palga mure muidugi väike asi selle artikli mure osas, ja üllatav kui ausalt see lõpus kokku võetud on, nagu oluline vaimne pööre on artikli lõpus tehtud, kuig seda artiklit peaks Alt Ülesse lugema, siis saaks palju õigema pildi ja suurem hulk inimesi aru millest jutt käib.
Nagu:
"649 õpilasest kaks mainis, et õpilase kuvandisse võiks kuuluda loovus ja koostöö. «Küll aga nimetati palju kohusetunnet, kuulekust, koolitükkide ärategemist, kohalkäimist – need on instrumentaalsed asjad. Isegi huvi asjade vastu oli vähe mainitud. See kuvand oli ka alarmeeriv ja see pole õpilase süü, et see nii on. Individuaalne isiksus läheb koolis kaduma,» kurvastas Kuurme."
"Küsimusele, mis teda selles uuringus kõige enam üllatas, vastas Kuurme: «Me tahaksime saavutada, et lõpetaksime jutu, et kool sobib tüdrukule – tegelikult ei sobi see kummalegi soole. Kooli õppetund, koolitöö protsess on küll praegu muutumises, aga kuniks püsivad meil massikombinaadid ja massimentaliteet, ei ole midagi head näha.»"
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9 February 2016 10:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
DNA: Douglas Noel Adams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WffoXzmY4Xs
9 February 2016 04:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
About rebooting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogQRjpcqm0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogQRjpcqm0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogQRjpcqm0k
9 February 2016 04:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Last chance to see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f0Zw69k3Pc&list=PL92C947F598654E81
Maybe also these videos, if we are undable to revece :)
But we are, if You are able to read to hear to see
Maybe also these videos, if we are undable to revece :)
But we are, if You are able to read to hear to see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f0Zw69k3Pc&list=PL92C947F598654E81
9 February 2016 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
( In between, long Tea time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi08NKionOg )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi08NKionOg
9 February 2016 04:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mostly harmless: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA2tYziJsMY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA2tYziJsMY
9 February 2016 04:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So long and thanks for all the fish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJaBLi_KLqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJaBLi_KLqs
9 February 2016 04:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Life the Universe and Everything https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE_x3dNkF7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE_x3dNkF7s
9 February 2016 04:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Restoraunt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4_wtr1m-Nw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4_wtr1m-Nw
9 February 2016 04:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Audiobook: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAwJCfz7ReM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAwJCfz7ReM
9 February 2016 04:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mices, related to rats a bit:
"Mice are merely the protrusion into our dimension of hyper-intelligent pan-dimensional beings who, unbeknownst to the human race, are the most intelligent species on the planet Earth. They spent a lot of their time in laboratories running complex experiments on humans. They paid Magrathea for the planet and will now collaborate to create a new one due to the interruption of Vogons,
At the outset, they were so fed up with the constant bickering about the meaning of life which used to interrupt their favorite game, Brockian Ultra Cricket, that they decided to sit down and solve their problems once and for all.
They were the creators of Deep Thought, a stupendous super computer the size of a small city, to tell them the Answer to Life, The Universe and Everything. When seven and a half million years later it was realized they didn't know the question to the answer they'd been given, a second computer, of such infinite and subtle complexity that life itself would form part of its operational matrix, was created to work out the Ultimate Question. That computer was known as the Earth.
Some notable mice in the series are Frankie and Benjy "
"Mice are merely the protrusion into our dimension of hyper-intelligent pan-dimensional beings who, unbeknownst to the human race, are the most intelligent species on the planet Earth. They spent a lot of their time in laboratories running complex experiments on humans. They paid Magrathea for the planet and will now collaborate to create a new one due to the interruption of Vogons,
At the outset, they were so fed up with the constant bickering about the meaning of life which used to interrupt their favorite game, Brockian Ultra Cricket, that they decided to sit down and solve their problems once and for all.
They were the creators of Deep Thought, a stupendous super computer the size of a small city, to tell them the Answer to Life, The Universe and Everything. When seven and a half million years later it was realized they didn't know the question to the answer they'd been given, a second computer, of such infinite and subtle complexity that life itself would form part of its operational matrix, was created to work out the Ultimate Question. That computer was known as the Earth.
Some notable mice in the series are Frankie and Benjy "
9 February 2016 04:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(on serial, why did they have to put pentagram on it: https://youtu.be/rLGJa7NoGDo?t=1851 on the board, few seconds cross it... think about it.. )
on minute 30..
on minute 30..
https://youtu.be/rLGJa7NoGDo?t=1851
9 February 2016 04:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Will get one of these on production
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxo3Jy3p8zo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxo3Jy3p8zo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxo3Jy3p8zo
9 February 2016 04:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mWm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhvEJPt7E7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhvEJPt7E7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhvEJPt7E7c
9 February 2016 04:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Actually wanted to find a mices parts here.. but did not jet...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbnBpzrqw7o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbnBpzrqw7o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbnBpzrqw7o
9 February 2016 04:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The legend has it that the Jade Emperor (the God who ruled Heaven and Earth, according to Taoism) summoned all the animals to see him in heaven. The Jade Emperor was delighted with the first 12 animals arrived and assigned them as representatives of the years. There was a story that the cat was initially a good friend of the rat, and had asked the rat to wake him for the race. But the rat did not, so the cat missed the race and was not assigned to the zodiac year. The cat was furious and became rat’s worse enemy ever after.
The story also says the result of the race to Emperor’s meeting determined the order in which they were assigned. It says that, when all animals had to cross the river, the rat, being very smart but cannot swim, asked to ride on ox’s back. After the kind-hearted ox reached the other side, the rat ran off quickly, and was the first to reach the meeting and to be assigned.
There is another saying that it was Lord Buddha who summoned the animals to bid him farewell before he returned to haven. He rewarded each of the 12 animals who came to represent the year.
Opening the World
Another legend describes how zodiac animals were assigned to the time of the day. See More About Chinese Zodiac regarding assigning Zodiac to the hours. The story says that before the creation of all beings, the old world was enclosed in a lifeless atmosphere. It was the Rat who bit opened the enclosure, and caused the interaction of the vital elements and the creation of all beings. This happened during the first of the twelve time-periods of a day in ancient China, therefore, “opening the world” made Rat the first zodiac animal. "
The story also says the result of the race to Emperor’s meeting determined the order in which they were assigned. It says that, when all animals had to cross the river, the rat, being very smart but cannot swim, asked to ride on ox’s back. After the kind-hearted ox reached the other side, the rat ran off quickly, and was the first to reach the meeting and to be assigned.
There is another saying that it was Lord Buddha who summoned the animals to bid him farewell before he returned to haven. He rewarded each of the 12 animals who came to represent the year.
Opening the World
Another legend describes how zodiac animals were assigned to the time of the day. See More About Chinese Zodiac regarding assigning Zodiac to the hours. The story says that before the creation of all beings, the old world was enclosed in a lifeless atmosphere. It was the Rat who bit opened the enclosure, and caused the interaction of the vital elements and the creation of all beings. This happened during the first of the twelve time-periods of a day in ancient China, therefore, “opening the world” made Rat the first zodiac animal. "
9 February 2016 04:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I did think, it was way to optimistic on first more, this is more like it..
9 February 2016 04:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This will return to online perhaps soon:
Why not a Cat?
http://www.chinesehoroscopeonline.com/zodiac/MoreAboutZodiac.htm
http://www.chinesehoroscopeonline.com/zodiac/CrouchingTiger.htm
http://www.chinesehoroscopeonline.com/zodiac/Legend.htm
http://chinesehoroscopeonline.com/zodiac/YearCutoff.htm
http://www.chinesehoroscopeonline.com/zodiac/GetReport.htm
Why not a Cat?
http://www.chinesehoroscopeonline.com/zodiac/MoreAboutZodiac.htm
http://www.chinesehoroscopeonline.com/zodiac/CrouchingTiger.htm
http://www.chinesehoroscopeonline.com/zodiac/Legend.htm
http://chinesehoroscopeonline.com/zodiac/YearCutoff.htm
http://www.chinesehoroscopeonline.com/zodiac/GetReport.htm
http://www.chinesehoroscopeonline.com/zodiac/MoreAboutZodiac.htm
9 February 2016 04:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Later on we will calculate and see how well Marks women shart will mach to http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/PredictSex.htm
http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/PredictSex.htm
9 February 2016 03:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
9 February 2016 03:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Your Day Master is Male Wood or Yang Wood. The following is the Red Monkey year prediction for people born on Yang Wood day.
When Yang Wood meets Monkey, the sign is that the tall tree catches much wind. The strong wind whips the leaves of the tall tree.
"Interpretation: Yang Wood stands for a tall tree, tall building, landmark, outstanding object, icon, boss, supervisor, leader or decision maker. Monkey is connected to metal, sword, ax, strong wind, storm, hurricane, speed and execution.
The wind blows on the tall tree. Some leaves will fall down. Strong wind will challenge the root of the tall tree. That is a sign of hardship and pressure.
The strong wind will die down eventually. The sun will shine on the tree again. Then the surviving fruits of the tree will ripen soon.
When Yang Wood meets Monkey, the sign is that the tall tree catches much wind. The strong wind whips the leaves of the tall tree.
"Interpretation: Yang Wood stands for a tall tree, tall building, landmark, outstanding object, icon, boss, supervisor, leader or decision maker. Monkey is connected to metal, sword, ax, strong wind, storm, hurricane, speed and execution.
The wind blows on the tall tree. Some leaves will fall down. Strong wind will challenge the root of the tall tree. That is a sign of hardship and pressure.
The strong wind will die down eventually. The sun will shine on the tree again. Then the surviving fruits of the tree will ripen soon.
9 February 2016 03:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Monthly Cycle February 2016 Male Metal Tiger Male Metal White Tiger Month
" Male Metal is your Career star. Basically, this period is about power and challenge. Lots of pressure will come to you. If you can handle the challenge, then you might gain power and earn respect from people. If the pressure is too much for you, then you will be very busy, nervous, and worried over your position and get sick easily. The events in this month are related to position, power, changing, reform, risk, competition, accidence and law. Tiger is your Companion star. Basically, money will be involved in this period. You will have a money opportunity. Your friends or relatives might sincerely come and help you to make a better money investment during this cycle. If they just want you for your money, then you might spend money on them and never see it return. The events in this month are related to independence, expansion, challenge, simplicity, competition, friendship, separation and decision.
The cycle for this period is related to career and/or money. It looks like you might encounter trouble from theft, lawsuit, injury, libel or career pressures, which then will require you to spend money to get rid of the problem. If you can find the right person to help, then the trouble might become a money opportunity. Otherwise you will lose some money. If you are working on a new business project, school examination, college degree or contest, you should have good results. Although you overcome your job pressures via your friends or associates and therefore your luck turns for the better, you still have to spend money to celebrate your victory. Generally, the luck in this month to you is fair. The concise prediction for this month is "Career goes. Money goes."
White Tiger from this month has a special relationship with your birth chart. The result of your fortune might be mixing with the following prediction. Also, there is a chance that the result turns out in different way.
Tiger Pig Tiger and Pig have an attraction relationship and appear in your birth chart and cycle. When they are together, the hint of your fortune is "Friendship and money come." This relationship is about your money. You might financial issue and look for money opportunity all the time. Friends will spend more time with you in this month and give you all the support you need. You might discuss financial investments and then you have a change to earn money together. If you are in debt during this time, your friends, relatives or elders might help your financial situation in this month. ...
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Now we need to look that bastards would not assasinate all my tiger friends knowing who my friend is who can upgrade me accorind to year prediction
" Male Metal is your Career star. Basically, this period is about power and challenge. Lots of pressure will come to you. If you can handle the challenge, then you might gain power and earn respect from people. If the pressure is too much for you, then you will be very busy, nervous, and worried over your position and get sick easily. The events in this month are related to position, power, changing, reform, risk, competition, accidence and law. Tiger is your Companion star. Basically, money will be involved in this period. You will have a money opportunity. Your friends or relatives might sincerely come and help you to make a better money investment during this cycle. If they just want you for your money, then you might spend money on them and never see it return. The events in this month are related to independence, expansion, challenge, simplicity, competition, friendship, separation and decision.
The cycle for this period is related to career and/or money. It looks like you might encounter trouble from theft, lawsuit, injury, libel or career pressures, which then will require you to spend money to get rid of the problem. If you can find the right person to help, then the trouble might become a money opportunity. Otherwise you will lose some money. If you are working on a new business project, school examination, college degree or contest, you should have good results. Although you overcome your job pressures via your friends or associates and therefore your luck turns for the better, you still have to spend money to celebrate your victory. Generally, the luck in this month to you is fair. The concise prediction for this month is "Career goes. Money goes."
White Tiger from this month has a special relationship with your birth chart. The result of your fortune might be mixing with the following prediction. Also, there is a chance that the result turns out in different way.
Tiger Pig Tiger and Pig have an attraction relationship and appear in your birth chart and cycle. When they are together, the hint of your fortune is "Friendship and money come." This relationship is about your money. You might financial issue and look for money opportunity all the time. Friends will spend more time with you in this month and give you all the support you need. You might discuss financial investments and then you have a change to earn money together. If you are in debt during this time, your friends, relatives or elders might help your financial situation in this month. ...
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Now we need to look that bastards would not assasinate all my tiger friends knowing who my friend is who can upgrade me accorind to year prediction
9 February 2016 03:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Yearly Cycle 2016
"Male Fire is your Fame star. This is a period about your fame. Since you tend to explore much more than usual, you will be more judgmental toward people than before. Only good fame will bring you fortune. The events in this year are related to creativity, expression, art, skill, literature, hobbies, talking, food and entertainment. You have a peaceful mind and therefore a relaxing life. Everything goes smoothly at your job. You learn a lot from education. You have stable living without worrying about food or clothes. You travel more often than before since social activities increase in your life. Your schedule at your job won’t be so tight allowing you more time for your projects and to enjoy your life more. It's the best time to express your talent, creativity and to deliver your ideas to the public. You have more money to spend and can get what you want. It's a good time for developing love, building a better relationship, even a possible marriage. Any love affair in this period will have a nice result.
Monkey is your Career star. Basically, this period is about power and challenge. Lots of pressure will come to you. If you can handle the challenge, then you might gain power and earn respect from people. If the pressure is too much for you, then you will be very busy, nervous, and worried over your position and get sick easily. The events in this year are related to position, power, changing, reform, risk, competition, accidence and law. You may like to make a change to the current rules or reform the working procedures. Your boss will appreciate your talent, give you a promotion, and perhaps even more responsibility and power. You will do well for the school test or job examination. Because your skill can make new creative products or open a new marketing area, you might go for a new job or a new business. Money luck is fine; a new job or new career might cost more money, but you won't have financial trouble. If you have any lawsuits, you will handle them well. "
and then
"...Health and career don’t look so good in this year. Your reputation is the first to be affected, and is followed by a possible upheaval of the people surrounding you. Because of the earlier an argument, accident or lawsuit could follow. There’s also the strong possibility of you getting severely ill. So, paying considerate attention towards your health and behavior can be a virtue. Money does not look to promising for this cycle..."
ON WHAT CYCLE ??
Seriiouslly, .. okey.. will look again.. there was some sings before these sentences.. hmm, what are these..
"Male Fire is your Fame star. This is a period about your fame. Since you tend to explore much more than usual, you will be more judgmental toward people than before. Only good fame will bring you fortune. The events in this year are related to creativity, expression, art, skill, literature, hobbies, talking, food and entertainment. You have a peaceful mind and therefore a relaxing life. Everything goes smoothly at your job. You learn a lot from education. You have stable living without worrying about food or clothes. You travel more often than before since social activities increase in your life. Your schedule at your job won’t be so tight allowing you more time for your projects and to enjoy your life more. It's the best time to express your talent, creativity and to deliver your ideas to the public. You have more money to spend and can get what you want. It's a good time for developing love, building a better relationship, even a possible marriage. Any love affair in this period will have a nice result.
Monkey is your Career star. Basically, this period is about power and challenge. Lots of pressure will come to you. If you can handle the challenge, then you might gain power and earn respect from people. If the pressure is too much for you, then you will be very busy, nervous, and worried over your position and get sick easily. The events in this year are related to position, power, changing, reform, risk, competition, accidence and law. You may like to make a change to the current rules or reform the working procedures. Your boss will appreciate your talent, give you a promotion, and perhaps even more responsibility and power. You will do well for the school test or job examination. Because your skill can make new creative products or open a new marketing area, you might go for a new job or a new business. Money luck is fine; a new job or new career might cost more money, but you won't have financial trouble. If you have any lawsuits, you will handle them well. "
and then
"...Health and career don’t look so good in this year. Your reputation is the first to be affected, and is followed by a possible upheaval of the people surrounding you. Because of the earlier an argument, accident or lawsuit could follow. There’s also the strong possibility of you getting severely ill. So, paying considerate attention towards your health and behavior can be a virtue. Money does not look to promising for this cycle..."
ON WHAT CYCLE ??
Seriiouslly, .. okey.. will look again.. there was some sings before these sentences.. hmm, what are these..
9 February 2016 03:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
9 February 2016 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Career: Basically, your career luck is good. You will realize your job is much easier than before. You will receive the training, education and assistances from others. You have better knowledge to handle your position. But you still need to stay alert. Any negligence on your duty will ruin your reputation and career development.
Job Change: If you have a job opportunity at a different company, then you had better think twice before accepting the offer. A strong wind of Monkey is coming. That's an unstable sign.
Wealth: The money luck is good, if you are humble and play low profile. If you slide into the arrogant and complacent attitude, then you won't get any fortune.
Love: You will find people care about you very much. If you are looking for love, then attend more social activities and you will feel many people are interested on you. If you are in love, you need to plan more romantic moments for your lover.
Social Circle: Your people relationship is great. People care and concern about you. They will give you lots of courage, sponsor and Compliment. That might spoil your personality. You should be humble and never proud of you fortune or achievement. Otherwise, jealous people will give you negative reputation.
Quarrel: If you have argument, dispute or lawsuit with someone, then that will waste your time, energy and money. To negotiate with the opposite party will be the best approach. Otherwise, it might become a big and long event.
Health: Watch out for diabetes, diarrhea, bladder and neuralgic pain.
General Fortune: The good fortune sign is coming. You will be excited. You have good energy and will be eager for actions. But you need to look well before each leap. Thus a promising winner won't become a loser.
Note: Don't be too serious about the above predictions. Since using the only the birth year zodiac sign, the predictions cover only 12.5% of your 2016 fortune. If your Lucky Element is Metal, you will have good luck in the year of the Monkey..."
Job Change: If you have a job opportunity at a different company, then you had better think twice before accepting the offer. A strong wind of Monkey is coming. That's an unstable sign.
Wealth: The money luck is good, if you are humble and play low profile. If you slide into the arrogant and complacent attitude, then you won't get any fortune.
Love: You will find people care about you very much. If you are looking for love, then attend more social activities and you will feel many people are interested on you. If you are in love, you need to plan more romantic moments for your lover.
Social Circle: Your people relationship is great. People care and concern about you. They will give you lots of courage, sponsor and Compliment. That might spoil your personality. You should be humble and never proud of you fortune or achievement. Otherwise, jealous people will give you negative reputation.
Quarrel: If you have argument, dispute or lawsuit with someone, then that will waste your time, energy and money. To negotiate with the opposite party will be the best approach. Otherwise, it might become a big and long event.
Health: Watch out for diabetes, diarrhea, bladder and neuralgic pain.
General Fortune: The good fortune sign is coming. You will be excited. You have good energy and will be eager for actions. But you need to look well before each leap. Thus a promising winner won't become a loser.
Note: Don't be too serious about the above predictions. Since using the only the birth year zodiac sign, the predictions cover only 12.5% of your 2016 fortune. If your Lucky Element is Metal, you will have good luck in the year of the Monkey..."
9 February 2016 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Pig is the cold water in the winter. Monkey is the strong wind in the fall. Rain with strong wind will become a big storm. To stop the storm, we need the mountain to block the wind and absorb some rain. Cow is connected to the mountain in the cold weather. Therefore, Pig should ask the adviser from Cow when the pressure coming from Monkey.
Pig is connected to river, running water, lake or ocean. It implies wisdom, initiative, energy, offensive and encroachment. Pig doesn't like to change the daily routine. It doesn't care the quality of the surrounding environment and lifestyle. Monkey is a curious animal with ambitious. It likes to pursue the power, performance, knack, challenge, fashion and vanity. Therefore, Monkey will manipulate over the Pig. But Monkey doesn't know Pig can become a destructive animal.
According to Chinese horoscopes, Pig contains mainly Water, and Monkey contains mainly Metal with some Water and little Earth. Monkey is connected to the wind, which can bring with rain. Pig is connected to the river. Strong wind can rise the surface of water into waves. It can stir up the water with rain into raging water. Therefore, Monkey can give and push Pig into a busy lifestyle...."
What else you do not know ?
Pig is connected to river, running water, lake or ocean. It implies wisdom, initiative, energy, offensive and encroachment. Pig doesn't like to change the daily routine. It doesn't care the quality of the surrounding environment and lifestyle. Monkey is a curious animal with ambitious. It likes to pursue the power, performance, knack, challenge, fashion and vanity. Therefore, Monkey will manipulate over the Pig. But Monkey doesn't know Pig can become a destructive animal.
According to Chinese horoscopes, Pig contains mainly Water, and Monkey contains mainly Metal with some Water and little Earth. Monkey is connected to the wind, which can bring with rain. Pig is connected to the river. Strong wind can rise the surface of water into waves. It can stir up the water with rain into raging water. Therefore, Monkey can give and push Pig into a busy lifestyle...."
What else you do not know ?
9 February 2016 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Am specially, a Water Big, top of watery pig Nature, 83 was good year for innovations!
" Pig is the cold water in the winter. Monkey is the strong wind in the fall. Rain with strong wind will become a big storm. To stop the storm, we need the mountain to block the wind and absorb some rain. Cow is connected to the mountain in the cold weather. Therefore, Pig should ask the adviser from Cow when the pressure coming from Monkey.
Pig is connected to river, running water, lake or ocean. It implies wisdom, initiative, energy, offensive and encroachment. Pig doesn't like to change the daily routine. It doesn't care the quality of the surrounding environment and lifestyle. Monkey is a curious animal with ambitious. It likes to pursue the power, performance, knack, challenge, fashion and vanity. Therefore, Monkey will manipulate over the Pig. But Monkey doesn't know Pig can become a destructive animal.
According to Chinese horoscopes, Pig contains mainly Water, and Monkey contains mainly Metal with some Water and little Earth. Monkey is connected to the wind, which can bring with rain. Pig is connected to the river. Strong wind can rise the surface of water into waves. It can stir up the water with rain into raging water. Therefore, Monkey can give and push Pig into a busy lifestyle...."
" Pig is the cold water in the winter. Monkey is the strong wind in the fall. Rain with strong wind will become a big storm. To stop the storm, we need the mountain to block the wind and absorb some rain. Cow is connected to the mountain in the cold weather. Therefore, Pig should ask the adviser from Cow when the pressure coming from Monkey.
Pig is connected to river, running water, lake or ocean. It implies wisdom, initiative, energy, offensive and encroachment. Pig doesn't like to change the daily routine. It doesn't care the quality of the surrounding environment and lifestyle. Monkey is a curious animal with ambitious. It likes to pursue the power, performance, knack, challenge, fashion and vanity. Therefore, Monkey will manipulate over the Pig. But Monkey doesn't know Pig can become a destructive animal.
According to Chinese horoscopes, Pig contains mainly Water, and Monkey contains mainly Metal with some Water and little Earth. Monkey is connected to the wind, which can bring with rain. Pig is connected to the river. Strong wind can rise the surface of water into waves. It can stir up the water with rain into raging water. Therefore, Monkey can give and push Pig into a busy lifestyle...."
9 February 2016 03:09
Margus Meigo commented on Earth Federation EF 地球聯邦 - 司法正義's photo.
Found Ya from Linked : )
Seems like You are on to something... want to connect with Estonia and mushroom magic?
Seems like You are on to something... want to connect with Estonia and mushroom magic?
9 February 2016 01:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Everyone in the world should have access to the internet.
That's why we launched Internet.org with so many different initiatives -- including extending networks through solar-powered planes, satellites and lasers, providing free data access through Free Basics, reducing data use through apps, and empowering local entrepreneurs through Express Wi-Fi.
Today India's telecom regulator decided to restrict programs that provide free access to data. This restricts one of Internet.org's initiatives, Free Basics, as well as programs by other organizations that provide free access to data.
While we're disappointed with today's decision, I want to personally communicate that we are committed to keep working to break down barriers to connectivity in India and around the world. Internet.org has many initiatives, and we will keep working until everyone has access to the internet.
Our work with Internet.org around the world has already improved many people's lives. More than 19 million people in 38 countries have been connected through our different programs.
Connecting India is an important goal we won't give up on, because more than a billion people in India don't have access to the internet. We know that connecting them can help lift people out of poverty, create millions of jobs and spread education opportunities. We care about these people, and that's why we're so committed to connecting them.
Our mission is to make the world more open and connected. That mission continues, and so does our commitment to India."
That's why we launched Internet.org with so many different initiatives -- including extending networks through solar-powered planes, satellites and lasers, providing free data access through Free Basics, reducing data use through apps, and empowering local entrepreneurs through Express Wi-Fi.
Today India's telecom regulator decided to restrict programs that provide free access to data. This restricts one of Internet.org's initiatives, Free Basics, as well as programs by other organizations that provide free access to data.
While we're disappointed with today's decision, I want to personally communicate that we are committed to keep working to break down barriers to connectivity in India and around the world. Internet.org has many initiatives, and we will keep working until everyone has access to the internet.
Our work with Internet.org around the world has already improved many people's lives. More than 19 million people in 38 countries have been connected through our different programs.
Connecting India is an important goal we won't give up on, because more than a billion people in India don't have access to the internet. We know that connecting them can help lift people out of poverty, create millions of jobs and spread education opportunities. We care about these people, and that's why we're so committed to connecting them.
Our mission is to make the world more open and connected. That mission continues, and so does our commitment to India."
http://internet.org/
8 February 2016 23:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More natural Mark, More natural Bro!
8 February 2016 08:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so no monkey love to me!
8 February 2016 08:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Should make a bit more serious consern to a hundreds of millions monkeys out there.. " Monkeys may have difficulty in relationships in 2016.
Monkeys' relationships will be rather colorless in 2016. The more they long for a relationship, the harder it will be for them to get one. They may encounter a romantic relationship if it happens naturally, especially in the seventh and twelfth Chinese lunar months. They will have a happy ending if they seize the right opportunities.
The Monkey's Traits: Sharp, Smart...
Career: Maybe Prosperous, if...
Monkeys can have prosperous careers in 2016, if correctly aligned with the Tai Sui star. They will be able to make breakthroughs, if they focus on their career and discipline themselves. If not, they will hardly achieve anything. They should guard against untrustworthy people and discipline themselves in order to avoid trouble. The luckiest months for them will be the second, fifth, and twelfth Chinese lunar months, during which they should seize opportunities instead of missing them.
A Year of Money for Monkeys?
Great unexpected fortune will find its way to Monkeys in 2016, so they will not have to worry about food and clothes. The best months for them to make their fortune will be the second and twelfth Chinese lunar months, during which they should make full use of their time to invest and cash in. They should avoid gambling, speculating, and collecting illegal or greedy gains, or they will lose everything they have, especially in the third Chinese lunar month. They should also guard against becoming poor due to greed. Monkeys should not show off their wealth, or they will be persecuted by others.
A Year of Health Risks, Especially Traffic Accidents
Monkeys will suffer from minor illnesses; however, they will not come to much harm if they are careful. If they take their medicine, the symptoms will lessen. They should be aware of traffic safety as they go about their daily routine, and never take risks. Great attention should also be paid to food safety to ensure illness is avoided. Their health horoscope is never above neutral, but worst in the fourth and tenth Chinese lunar months.
People born in a year of the Monkey are witty, intelligent, and have a magnetic personality. Personality traits, like mischievousness, curiosity, and cleverness, make them very naughty. Monkeys are masters of practical jokes, because they like playing most of the time. Though they don't have any bad intentions, their pranks sometimes hurt the feelings of others. Monkeys are fast learners and crafty opportunists.
They have many interests and need partners who are capable of stimulating them. While some like the eccentric nature of Monkeys, some don't trust their sly, restless, and inquisitive nature. Although they are clever and creative, monkeys can't always exhibit their talent properly. Monkeys like to take challenges and they prefer urban life to rural.
How "Monkeys" Should Keep Healthy
Usually Monkeys are very healthy, partly due to their active lifestyles, and wanting to experience the flavors of life. If they do experience illness, it is usually of the nervous or circulatory system. People born in a year of the Monkey often spend more time at work. Therefore Monkeys need to remember to take breaks to save their energy during their busy schedules. Since Monkeys usually do more outdoor activities, they should pay attention to safety, and while traveling or driving.
The Best Jobs and Careers for Monkeys
When it comes to their careers, Monkeys work very hard. They can adapt to different working environments. Good career choices for monkeys are accounting and banking, science, engineering, stock market trading, air traffic control, film directing, jewelry, and salesmanship.
How to Build Relationships with "Monkeys"
In relationships, Monkeys are not very quick in settling down, as they tend to be promiscuous and are easily bored. However, once Monkeys get a perfect partner, they commit to him/her in every possible way. Since Monkeys love to talk and are sociable, they can be communicated with easily.
Love Compatibility: Is She/He Compatible with You?
Love compatibility within the Chinese zodiac takes into account the unique characteristics of each animal. Only those whose characteristics match each other well can be good partners. See below the compatibility of the Monkey with other animals.
Best with: Ox or Rabbit
Worst with: Tiger or Pig
Monkeys' relationships will be rather colorless in 2016. The more they long for a relationship, the harder it will be for them to get one. They may encounter a romantic relationship if it happens naturally, especially in the seventh and twelfth Chinese lunar months. They will have a happy ending if they seize the right opportunities.
The Monkey's Traits: Sharp, Smart...
Career: Maybe Prosperous, if...
Monkeys can have prosperous careers in 2016, if correctly aligned with the Tai Sui star. They will be able to make breakthroughs, if they focus on their career and discipline themselves. If not, they will hardly achieve anything. They should guard against untrustworthy people and discipline themselves in order to avoid trouble. The luckiest months for them will be the second, fifth, and twelfth Chinese lunar months, during which they should seize opportunities instead of missing them.
A Year of Money for Monkeys?
Great unexpected fortune will find its way to Monkeys in 2016, so they will not have to worry about food and clothes. The best months for them to make their fortune will be the second and twelfth Chinese lunar months, during which they should make full use of their time to invest and cash in. They should avoid gambling, speculating, and collecting illegal or greedy gains, or they will lose everything they have, especially in the third Chinese lunar month. They should also guard against becoming poor due to greed. Monkeys should not show off their wealth, or they will be persecuted by others.
A Year of Health Risks, Especially Traffic Accidents
Monkeys will suffer from minor illnesses; however, they will not come to much harm if they are careful. If they take their medicine, the symptoms will lessen. They should be aware of traffic safety as they go about their daily routine, and never take risks. Great attention should also be paid to food safety to ensure illness is avoided. Their health horoscope is never above neutral, but worst in the fourth and tenth Chinese lunar months.
People born in a year of the Monkey are witty, intelligent, and have a magnetic personality. Personality traits, like mischievousness, curiosity, and cleverness, make them very naughty. Monkeys are masters of practical jokes, because they like playing most of the time. Though they don't have any bad intentions, their pranks sometimes hurt the feelings of others. Monkeys are fast learners and crafty opportunists.
They have many interests and need partners who are capable of stimulating them. While some like the eccentric nature of Monkeys, some don't trust their sly, restless, and inquisitive nature. Although they are clever and creative, monkeys can't always exhibit their talent properly. Monkeys like to take challenges and they prefer urban life to rural.
How "Monkeys" Should Keep Healthy
Usually Monkeys are very healthy, partly due to their active lifestyles, and wanting to experience the flavors of life. If they do experience illness, it is usually of the nervous or circulatory system. People born in a year of the Monkey often spend more time at work. Therefore Monkeys need to remember to take breaks to save their energy during their busy schedules. Since Monkeys usually do more outdoor activities, they should pay attention to safety, and while traveling or driving.
The Best Jobs and Careers for Monkeys
When it comes to their careers, Monkeys work very hard. They can adapt to different working environments. Good career choices for monkeys are accounting and banking, science, engineering, stock market trading, air traffic control, film directing, jewelry, and salesmanship.
How to Build Relationships with "Monkeys"
In relationships, Monkeys are not very quick in settling down, as they tend to be promiscuous and are easily bored. However, once Monkeys get a perfect partner, they commit to him/her in every possible way. Since Monkeys love to talk and are sociable, they can be communicated with easily.
Love Compatibility: Is She/He Compatible with You?
Love compatibility within the Chinese zodiac takes into account the unique characteristics of each animal. Only those whose characteristics match each other well can be good partners. See below the compatibility of the Monkey with other animals.
Best with: Ox or Rabbit
Worst with: Tiger or Pig
8 February 2016 08:22
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's video.
Sorry man.. You got a work on the feelings more, knowing a little bit Asian women, and women in general, i can say.. there is bridge between You two... also, RED is REALLY the not best color to choose on Monkey Year greeting, She should know that..
(but there is another reason Women wear Red also, and that is not a better news ) .. few more words on my wall about it...
But everyhting else was so nice and cute, under lucky number of views, that am got to share that... but please go get some proffessional Chinese astrology help and surrender to HER dreamsa bit more.. as there is something important that She needs more.. something is... some thing is...
(but there is another reason Women wear Red also, and that is not a better news ) .. few more words on my wall about it...
But everyhting else was so nice and cute, under lucky number of views, that am got to share that... but please go get some proffessional Chinese astrology help and surrender to HER dreamsa bit more.. as there is something important that She needs more.. something is... some thing is...
8 February 2016 08:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E8_%28mathematics%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_magnetic_moment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_magnetic_moment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E8_%28mathematics%29
7 February 2016 15:38
Margus Meigo replied to Risto Kivi's comment.
to where?
7 February 2016 14:22
Margus Meigo replied to Kersti Liber-Tupasela's comment.
Group: Jah, see on vegan!
Jup, tatar selline imetoit jah, et kui kasvõi kuum vesi peale lasta (sedasi, et 2/3ku on vett kui õigesti mäletan..), siis kaane alla panna... ja juba tunni paari pärast on tpoit valmis7 February 2016 13:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Jah, see on vegan!
Tomatit ma muidugi ka .. eriti ei sööks ise, sest see tumeda maagiaga seotud taimedega liialt sugulane.. (nagu tubakas, beladonna ja mitmed muud mu vaimu jaoks ohtlikud taimed)7 February 2016 13:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Jah, see on vegan!
praegu maailma parandades elu suht ligadilogadi,
ise enda aitamine, ise enda jaoks töötamine on kõige raskem tegevus mu jaoks millega pole siiani hakkama saanud peale arusaama, et tuleb neile elada keda armastad.
Vaevu elus hoidnud aastaid,. kuid noh, eks kuidagi ikka, saab edasi... ja siis lõpuks sööma hakata mida süda ihkab7 February 2016 13:15
Margus Meigo replied to Ave Päiviste's comment.
Group: Jah, see on vegan!
Sellisele toidule soola kindlasti pole vaja... soola söömine üldse selline viga mis meile juurde juurutatud, on põhjus miks Loodus seda välja viib... ja miks taimedele sool eraldi ei anna elu.
Räägitakse, et inimese aju lõpetab tegevuse kui ta soola ei söö.. aga tegelikult ma väga pikka aega ei söönud (mida oli muidugi keeuline mitte toortoitu süües teha..), ja midagi ei juhtunud.
Ja ega seda soola üle maailma siis tuhandeid aastaid tagasi ei söödud igalpool, üldse mitte ju? Polnud olemaski
Soola asemel hakkasin mett panema ja sobis ka hästi.
Hiljem veel avastasin selle maitsesoola.. orandzi.. et seda peale raputada annab need soola himud ära likvideerida küll aegajalt kui keha kutsub, neil kel keha veel mustustes kinni7 February 2016 13:09
Margus Meigo commented on Meeri-Lii Nairimäe's post.
Group: Jah, see on vegan!
Õunad võileivaga avastasin jah ka ise, et päris head7 February 2016 13:06
Margus Meigo commented on Sevil Šukjurova's post.
Group: Jah, see on vegan!
kui jõukamaks saan hakkan ka sedasi sööma : )7 February 2016 13:05
Margus Meigo replied to Maigert Levo's comment.
Thean
7 February 2016 12:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kui ise ka oskaks hetkeliselt kohe selles ajas endale sellist mõttemaailma praktikas omandada ja stabiilselt töös hoida.. vaat see oleks vahva
7 February 2016 12:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yes yes, i know, it is still needed... but not for the reason of good, but becouse of the misTakers
7 February 2016 03:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And name it to DeepMind is insult to a real DeepThought, (on halfhumoros, who got reduced the number to 42 long time ago, the herz of a brain near to a plants to receive guidance, intuition from a G)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgeMrzbfrxg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgeMrzbfrxg
7 February 2016 03:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Until recently, AI programs could only beat very low-level players, which made DeepMind's victory over Fan Hui such a surprise. Because of the nearly infinite moves possible in the game, DeepMind doesn't try to calculate ahead like chess computers do. Rather, programmers "taught" it the strategies used by Go masters, then had it play numerous virtual games to reinforce them."
yes, how complicated is that, does not need to be a epic gwnius to add these few pieces of strategies + ai together
http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/05/googles-ai-will-take-on-the-world-go-champ-live-on-youtube/
yes, how complicated is that, does not need to be a epic gwnius to add these few pieces of strategies + ai together
http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/05/googles-ai-will-take-on-the-world-go-champ-live-on-youtube/
http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/05/googles-ai-will-take-on-the-world-go-champ-live-on-youtube/
7 February 2016 03:11
Margus Meigo replied to Maigert Levo's comment.
Senikaua kui nõiad aru saavad kellega lennata lasevad, kellele elu annavad, et ei sobi sünnitada igasuguseid asju
ja ja .. noh eks koopameestel vaja ka rohkem toimetada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3w1_E1V46M
Nerd rap infests your internet. You left a trap, but it's empty.
MC Frontalot took a gape but the bait wasn't tempting,
ending up uncaged and at large
to talk smack at you through the networking appliance that's in charge
of every drip of your attention.
Yo, when mine goes out I've got to log in just to mention
my disappointment at the interruption of convenience.
I mean just: a lot left, but none up in between this
couple of minutes here and a couple of minutes later.
It's an outrage, at the price I paid. These dictators
of my leisure rule with an iron fist.
Has anybody ever been so put upon as this?
Your GPS run out of battery (first world problem)
Got to wake up Saturday (first world problem)
You just delayed a honeymoon (first world problem)
Pledge season's coming soon (first world problem)
Half your friend list is spam accounts (first world problem)
And your center channel speaker's out (first world problem)
Muffy, my hair regrowth cream is mostly ineffective
and I'm struggling to keep this in perspective,
but I feel like a massive injustice occurred.
Says "regrows hair" on the tube (in the words)
in a third — or maybe a quarter — of all users.
I must have got swindled. Is it a fault? Of whose is?
Oooh, Muffy, Muffy, I had all the servants tortured.
Did you keep them on retainer? Do you got some more on order?
'Cause I can't comb my hair on my own no more.
I got accustomed to the lifestyle, sniffed upon the spore
and it molded up my innards, made the blood turn blue.
Muffy, Muffy, there's a revolution; what we're gonna do?
Misplaced the Ambien (first world problem)
Left a participle dangling (first world problem)
You're scheduling your root canal (first world problem)
Your grad schooling had no rationale (first world problem)
You didn't like your appetizer (first world problem)
Your yacht got capsized (a first world problem)
Now while our capitalism is in a minor kerfuffle,
you have to hustle. Before the fates come, reshuffle.
Rustle up another couple grievances and air 'em.
You can laugh about it later (maybe needed while despairing).
For the moment though, you ordered half caf, didn't get it;
there was no TV set when you jetted; internet resetted
itself just as I was in the middle
of tournament play, and so I suffered from transmittal
interruption. Completely ruined my day.
MC Frontalot's a jackass, that's all I'm trying to say.
People buy CDs in these days of disaster,
so poor me: I have to be a professional rapper.
No bubbles in the soda cup (first world problem)
App crashed when you loaded up (first world problem)
Phone's OS is outta date (first world problem)
Colors won't calibrate (first world problem)
They never stock the snack you want (first world problem)
Caught herpes from a celebutante (first world problem)
Got wallhacked in PVP (first world problem)
Oh no, HD-DVD (first world problem)
Pixels aren't perfect square (first world problem)
Your favorite rapper isn't debonair (first world problem)
You own too many underwear (first world problem)
And you're not much of a millionaire (first world problem)
ja ja .. noh eks koopameestel vaja ka rohkem toimetada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3w1_E1V46M
Nerd rap infests your internet. You left a trap, but it's empty.
MC Frontalot took a gape but the bait wasn't tempting,
ending up uncaged and at large
to talk smack at you through the networking appliance that's in charge
of every drip of your attention.
Yo, when mine goes out I've got to log in just to mention
my disappointment at the interruption of convenience.
I mean just: a lot left, but none up in between this
couple of minutes here and a couple of minutes later.
It's an outrage, at the price I paid. These dictators
of my leisure rule with an iron fist.
Has anybody ever been so put upon as this?
Your GPS run out of battery (first world problem)
Got to wake up Saturday (first world problem)
You just delayed a honeymoon (first world problem)
Pledge season's coming soon (first world problem)
Half your friend list is spam accounts (first world problem)
And your center channel speaker's out (first world problem)
Muffy, my hair regrowth cream is mostly ineffective
and I'm struggling to keep this in perspective,
but I feel like a massive injustice occurred.
Says "regrows hair" on the tube (in the words)
in a third — or maybe a quarter — of all users.
I must have got swindled. Is it a fault? Of whose is?
Oooh, Muffy, Muffy, I had all the servants tortured.
Did you keep them on retainer? Do you got some more on order?
'Cause I can't comb my hair on my own no more.
I got accustomed to the lifestyle, sniffed upon the spore
and it molded up my innards, made the blood turn blue.
Muffy, Muffy, there's a revolution; what we're gonna do?
Misplaced the Ambien (first world problem)
Left a participle dangling (first world problem)
You're scheduling your root canal (first world problem)
Your grad schooling had no rationale (first world problem)
You didn't like your appetizer (first world problem)
Your yacht got capsized (a first world problem)
Now while our capitalism is in a minor kerfuffle,
you have to hustle. Before the fates come, reshuffle.
Rustle up another couple grievances and air 'em.
You can laugh about it later (maybe needed while despairing).
For the moment though, you ordered half caf, didn't get it;
there was no TV set when you jetted; internet resetted
itself just as I was in the middle
of tournament play, and so I suffered from transmittal
interruption. Completely ruined my day.
MC Frontalot's a jackass, that's all I'm trying to say.
People buy CDs in these days of disaster,
so poor me: I have to be a professional rapper.
No bubbles in the soda cup (first world problem)
App crashed when you loaded up (first world problem)
Phone's OS is outta date (first world problem)
Colors won't calibrate (first world problem)
They never stock the snack you want (first world problem)
Caught herpes from a celebutante (first world problem)
Got wallhacked in PVP (first world problem)
Oh no, HD-DVD (first world problem)
Pixels aren't perfect square (first world problem)
Your favorite rapper isn't debonair (first world problem)
You own too many underwear (first world problem)
And you're not much of a millionaire (first world problem)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3w1_E1V46M
7 February 2016 02:25
Margus Meigo replied to Maigert Levo's comment.
nu jah ja eks need naised ole jälle kes nad siia tagasi juhivad.. sest
7 February 2016 02:18
Margus Meigo replied to Maigert Levo's comment.
õigus jah, stupid ei tohi öelda, teen paranduse selles osas.
Piiblis lausa keelatud öelda stupid
mäletad seda koopameest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqwsQ65CEvk
Mis moodi see naise ülistamine veel käib? Mida Sa ikka ülistad kõrgeimal olevat?
Piiblis lausa keelatud öelda stupid
mäletad seda koopameest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqwsQ65CEvk
Mis moodi see naise ülistamine veel käib? Mida Sa ikka ülistad kõrgeimal olevat?
7 February 2016 02:17
Margus Meigo replied to Maigert Levo's comment.
Ma pole kunagi häbenenud väljendada, et kõik kes maa arendamise asemel siit minemalendamise peale panustavad tuleks kas likvideerida või siit võimalikult kiiresti välja saata, uuesti.
Kuid siis tagasisõidu gps tuksi keerata, et nad uuesti kodu ei leiaks.
Muidugi kahjuks nad võtavad palju head kaasa, arusaamata selle väärtusest ja siis nad aksepteeritakse uuesti ja uuesti tagasi arusaamata, miks neid jälle vastu võeti
Kuid siis tagasisõidu gps tuksi keerata, et nad uuesti kodu ei leiaks.
Muidugi kahjuks nad võtavad palju head kaasa, arusaamata selle väärtusest ja siis nad aksepteeritakse uuesti ja uuesti tagasi arusaamata, miks neid jälle vastu võeti
7 February 2016 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on Nathalie Koldre's post.
Group: Jah, see on vegan!
Jammy! 4x seda sama mulle7 February 2016 02:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
in practice, as that should
7 February 2016 02:03
Margus Meigo replied to Maigert Levo's comment.
mis mõttes ? Pole ma kuskil sisisenud
kui siis ainult niipalju kui inimeste enda eelarvamus eeldab
kui siis ainult niipalju kui inimeste enda eelarvamus eeldab
7 February 2016 01:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(see siin ei olnud kurtus, vaid iroonia nendetarkade tarkuse pihta)
sest nendel on vähem vabandust
sest nendel on vähem vabandust
7 February 2016 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Räägi lähemalt
7 February 2016 01:43
Margus Meigo replied to Maigert Levo's comment.
kaera putru, kartulik, veggi ruki burgery ja õuna
(mu viimase nädala eelarve on püsinud 1.5 eoro sees ...)
(mu viimase nädala eelarve on püsinud 1.5 eoro sees ...)
7 February 2016 01:43
Margus Meigo commented on Christopher Morrison's link.
Well... at least Diana time this was not the case
but would it have been
but would it have been
7 February 2016 01:18
Margus Meigo commented on George Mapp Investigative Journalist's link.
I have always liked these markets
7 February 2016 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on Infowars Nightly News's link.
Not that anyone would really like that..
7 February 2016 01:05
Margus Meigo replied to Maigert Levo's comment.
as women can be even more right then another women
7 February 2016 01:00
Margus Meigo replied to Maigert Levo's comment.
okey, i was wrong, You did top it,
but Women don't count
on competitions like that
but you do count, on reminding us of our lack of handeling final truth
we can count on that
but Women don't count
on competitions like that
but you do count, on reminding us of our lack of handeling final truth
we can count on that
7 February 2016 00:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
year after year
7 February 2016 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
Jup., strawberries as You told me : )
7 February 2016 00:49
Margus Meigo commented on Sarantos solo music artist's link.
When You get in to psychedelics, that will revoluzianise ya.. travelings
it is still measuring "per hour" so that cant be useful for proper travel , at all
it is still measuring "per hour" so that cant be useful for proper travel , at all
7 February 2016 00:31
Margus Meigo commented on Ellen Vaman's post.
Be careful with a pentagrams tho : )
7 February 2016 00:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu armas kallike ?
7 February 2016 00:27
Margus Meigo replied to Maigert Levo's comment.
Hard to one up that one
7 February 2016 00:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
7 February 2016 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Someone would say that They are simple man, when they see "Mars" they think of an chocolate
well, there will be soon what we know about
kuid mis elu see on!
well, there will be soon what we know about
kuid mis elu see on!
7 February 2016 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
...ETc
7 February 2016 00:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I think in this day and age, no one is arrested for making silly studies, unless the study involves psychedelics in true positive way,
... well, actually You can not Really get arrested on something You are not able to make for first but..
//and hey, this was actually my positive review to a science of a best from pink pages
as am able also to know real benefit of all that, so this why i know that benefit of that will come anyway , just we should make our best to make help to make to come that all wider, faster, larger, bigger, deeper, higher and hey, also nicer, better, ilusamini (more beautifully)
... well, actually You can not Really get arrested on something You are not able to make for first but..
//and hey, this was actually my positive review to a science of a best from pink pages
as am able also to know real benefit of all that, so this why i know that benefit of that will come anyway , just we should make our best to make help to make to come that all wider, faster, larger, bigger, deeper, higher and hey, also nicer, better, ilusamini (more beautifully)
7 February 2016 00:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but you still need to back up love with a truth or ya end up with more broken homes
7 February 2016 00:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Using functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI), we found that values that people refused to sell (sacred values) were associated with increased activity in the left temporoparietal junction and ventrolateral prefrontal cortex"
Really, smart ones still use that technique.. i really hope there some day will be someone smart enough that actually can find true truth based benefit of all these MRI scans that pinpoint on what part of physical body activity seems to be.
i mean, this must be really smart one in to actually figure out all benefits of this torture of a time. Not that time in what we move can be tortured but this is most accurate imagery of an this kind of... torture of a time.
most likely there is still on smart ones on 2016 who use MRI to try to figure out on what part of brain the love works best and how to chemically do it better, or with electricity and then transfer, translate these possible noticeable signals in to computing and signal that back in to CPU that electric stimulates these brain parts on another person, and WHOLA! It seems we got more near to love...
OKey, not really,
not really, what love is really...
MDMA is as near you need to get to it
Really, smart ones still use that technique.. i really hope there some day will be someone smart enough that actually can find true truth based benefit of all these MRI scans that pinpoint on what part of physical body activity seems to be.
i mean, this must be really smart one in to actually figure out all benefits of this torture of a time. Not that time in what we move can be tortured but this is most accurate imagery of an this kind of... torture of a time.
most likely there is still on smart ones on 2016 who use MRI to try to figure out on what part of brain the love works best and how to chemically do it better, or with electricity and then transfer, translate these possible noticeable signals in to computing and signal that back in to CPU that electric stimulates these brain parts on another person, and WHOLA! It seems we got more near to love...
OKey, not really,
not really, what love is really...
MDMA is as near you need to get to it
7 February 2016 00:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
What is the ACTUAL, in the end, difference of these two arguments when taking religion with science in to account:
"Deontological theory suggests that sacred values are processed based on rights and wrongs irrespective of outcomes, while utilitarian theory suggests that they are processed based on costs and benefits of potential outcomes"
like really.. hmm.. lets wonder more.. what one it is..
perhaps the one, that is good ?
oh.. our fail? We forget,that in some virtual worlds there is no right and wrong... (the believers of the ones, who have a tripped a bit wrong)
"Deontological theory suggests that sacred values are processed based on rights and wrongs irrespective of outcomes, while utilitarian theory suggests that they are processed based on costs and benefits of potential outcomes"
like really.. hmm.. lets wonder more.. what one it is..
perhaps the one, that is good ?
oh.. our fail? We forget,that in some virtual worlds there is no right and wrong... (the believers of the ones, who have a tripped a bit wrong)
6 February 2016 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. Okey, that sounds good:
"The price of your soul: neural evidence for the non-utilitarian representation of sacred values"
"Sacred values, such as those associated with religious or ethnic identity, underlie many important individual and group decisions in life, and individuals typically resist attempts to trade off their sacred values in exchange for material benefits. Deontological theory suggests that sacred values are processed based on rights and wrongs irrespective of outcomes, while utilitarian theory suggests that they are processed based on costs and benefits of potential outcomes, but which mode of processing an individual naturally uses is unknown. The study of decisions over sacred values is difficult because outcomes cannot typically be realized in a laboratory, and hence little is known about the neural representation and processing of sacred values. We used an experimental paradigm that used integrity as a proxy for sacredness and which paid real money to induce individuals to sell their personal values. Using functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI), we found that values that people refused to sell (sacred values) were associated with increased activity in the left temporoparietal junction and ventrolateral prefrontal cortex, regions previously associated with semantic rule retrieval. This suggests that sacred values affect behaviour through the retrieval and processing of deontic rules and not through a utilitarian evaluation of costs and benefits."
http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/367/1589/754
Lets see now, if that is..
"The price of your soul: neural evidence for the non-utilitarian representation of sacred values"
"Sacred values, such as those associated with religious or ethnic identity, underlie many important individual and group decisions in life, and individuals typically resist attempts to trade off their sacred values in exchange for material benefits. Deontological theory suggests that sacred values are processed based on rights and wrongs irrespective of outcomes, while utilitarian theory suggests that they are processed based on costs and benefits of potential outcomes, but which mode of processing an individual naturally uses is unknown. The study of decisions over sacred values is difficult because outcomes cannot typically be realized in a laboratory, and hence little is known about the neural representation and processing of sacred values. We used an experimental paradigm that used integrity as a proxy for sacredness and which paid real money to induce individuals to sell their personal values. Using functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI), we found that values that people refused to sell (sacred values) were associated with increased activity in the left temporoparietal junction and ventrolateral prefrontal cortex, regions previously associated with semantic rule retrieval. This suggests that sacred values affect behaviour through the retrieval and processing of deontic rules and not through a utilitarian evaluation of costs and benefits."
http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/367/1589/754
Lets see now, if that is..
http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/367/1589/754
6 February 2016 23:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. again.. let me say that even tho interesting for a main stream it is pooooring to look for average country and religious persons for who is elementary,that Your intelligence about Life is not just coming from Your current brain physical structure.
" Quantum physics in neuroscience and psychology: a neurophysical model of mind–brain interaction
"Abstract
Neuropsychological research on the neural basis of behaviour generally posits that brain mechanisms will ultimately suffice to explain all psychologically described phenomena. This assumption stems from the idea that the brain is made up entirely of material particles and fields, and that all causal mechanisms relevant to neuroscience can therefore be formulated solely in terms of properties of these elements. Thus, terms having intrinsic mentalistic and/or experiential content (e.g. ‘feeling’, ‘knowing’ and ‘effort’) are not included as primary causal factors. This theoretical restriction is motivated primarily by ideas about the natural world that have been known to be fundamentally incorrect for more than three-quarters of a century. Contemporary basic physical theory differs profoundly from classic physics on the important matter of how the consciousness of human agents enters into the structure of empirical phenomena. The new principles contradict the older idea that local mechanical processes alone can account for the structure of all observed empirical data. Contemporary physical theory brings directly and irreducibly into the overall causal structure certain psychologically described choices made by human agents about how they will act. This key development in basic physical theory is applicable to neuroscience, and it provides neuroscientists and psychologists with an alternative conceptual framework for describing neural processes. Indeed, owing to certain structural features of ion channels critical to synaptic function, contemporary physical theory must in principle be used when analysing human brain dynamics. The new framework, unlike its classic-physics-based predecessor, is erected directly upon, and is compatible with, the prevailing principles of physics. It is able to represent more adequately than classic concepts the neuroplastic mechanisms relevant to the growing number of empirical studies of the capacity of directed attention and mental effort to systematically alter brain function."
http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/360/1458/1309
Sorry for being to harsh on it for not being a professor on subject matter just ... well, i guess to look it from Royal point of view, that is a great advance and news, as this is one step more near for people of most lower intelligence (the ones who assume, that all humans brain are physically able to produce information inside it self according to only ones matter in a body, ... and yes, someone explaining you a Quantum physics (as what it explains) most correctly might Know nothing about it, as it does not take a knowings (how to make radio vs. knowing everything about radio) to understand on the level of explanation, one does need awareness tho with physical imaginary imagery )
//last sentence after radio first half need to polish
" Quantum physics in neuroscience and psychology: a neurophysical model of mind–brain interaction
"Abstract
Neuropsychological research on the neural basis of behaviour generally posits that brain mechanisms will ultimately suffice to explain all psychologically described phenomena. This assumption stems from the idea that the brain is made up entirely of material particles and fields, and that all causal mechanisms relevant to neuroscience can therefore be formulated solely in terms of properties of these elements. Thus, terms having intrinsic mentalistic and/or experiential content (e.g. ‘feeling’, ‘knowing’ and ‘effort’) are not included as primary causal factors. This theoretical restriction is motivated primarily by ideas about the natural world that have been known to be fundamentally incorrect for more than three-quarters of a century. Contemporary basic physical theory differs profoundly from classic physics on the important matter of how the consciousness of human agents enters into the structure of empirical phenomena. The new principles contradict the older idea that local mechanical processes alone can account for the structure of all observed empirical data. Contemporary physical theory brings directly and irreducibly into the overall causal structure certain psychologically described choices made by human agents about how they will act. This key development in basic physical theory is applicable to neuroscience, and it provides neuroscientists and psychologists with an alternative conceptual framework for describing neural processes. Indeed, owing to certain structural features of ion channels critical to synaptic function, contemporary physical theory must in principle be used when analysing human brain dynamics. The new framework, unlike its classic-physics-based predecessor, is erected directly upon, and is compatible with, the prevailing principles of physics. It is able to represent more adequately than classic concepts the neuroplastic mechanisms relevant to the growing number of empirical studies of the capacity of directed attention and mental effort to systematically alter brain function."
http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/360/1458/1309
Sorry for being to harsh on it for not being a professor on subject matter just ... well, i guess to look it from Royal point of view, that is a great advance and news, as this is one step more near for people of most lower intelligence (the ones who assume, that all humans brain are physically able to produce information inside it self according to only ones matter in a body, ... and yes, someone explaining you a Quantum physics (as what it explains) most correctly might Know nothing about it, as it does not take a knowings (how to make radio vs. knowing everything about radio) to understand on the level of explanation, one does need awareness tho with physical imaginary imagery )
//last sentence after radio first half need to polish
http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/360/1458/1309
6 February 2016 23:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. "Explaining and inducing savant skills: privileged access to lower level, less-processed information"
(lol, in most part Elementary.. but we still investigate? Of-course not that all species must be equal. Or maybe you want to propose, that only things that are not Equal are robot based species but everyone else must be, just chosen path in combination of prepacked favored options is not in all situations for everyone, but as of whole species organism that works for us) /end comment need to be re advanced/
Explaining and inducing savant skills: privileged access to lower level, less-processed information
" Explaining and inducing savant skills: privileged access to lower level, less-processed information
Abstract:
I argue that savant skills are latent in us all. My hypothesis is that savants have privileged access to lower level, less-processed information, before it is packaged into holistic concepts and meaningful labels. Owing to a failure in top-down inhibition, they can tap into information that exists in all of our brains, but is normally beyond conscious awareness. This suggests why savant skills might arise spontaneously in otherwise normal people, and why such skills might be artificially induced by low-frequency repetitive transcranial magnetic stimulation. It also suggests why autistic savants are atypically literal with a tendency to concentrate more on the parts than on the whole and why this offers advantages for particular classes of problem solving, such as those that necessitate breaking cognitive mindsets. A strategy of building from the parts to the whole could form the basis for the so-called autistic genius. Unlike the healthy mind, which has inbuilt expectations of the world (internal order), the autistic mind must simplify the world by adopting strict routines (external order). !
http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/364/1522/1399
(lol, in most part Elementary.. but we still investigate? Of-course not that all species must be equal. Or maybe you want to propose, that only things that are not Equal are robot based species but everyone else must be, just chosen path in combination of prepacked favored options is not in all situations for everyone, but as of whole species organism that works for us) /end comment need to be re advanced/
Explaining and inducing savant skills: privileged access to lower level, less-processed information
" Explaining and inducing savant skills: privileged access to lower level, less-processed information
Abstract:
I argue that savant skills are latent in us all. My hypothesis is that savants have privileged access to lower level, less-processed information, before it is packaged into holistic concepts and meaningful labels. Owing to a failure in top-down inhibition, they can tap into information that exists in all of our brains, but is normally beyond conscious awareness. This suggests why savant skills might arise spontaneously in otherwise normal people, and why such skills might be artificially induced by low-frequency repetitive transcranial magnetic stimulation. It also suggests why autistic savants are atypically literal with a tendency to concentrate more on the parts than on the whole and why this offers advantages for particular classes of problem solving, such as those that necessitate breaking cognitive mindsets. A strategy of building from the parts to the whole could form the basis for the so-called autistic genius. Unlike the healthy mind, which has inbuilt expectations of the world (internal order), the autistic mind must simplify the world by adopting strict routines (external order). !
http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/364/1522/1399
http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/364/1522/1399
6 February 2016 23:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Thanks : )
6 February 2016 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Of-course, excuse all the flaws of lack of...
and just focus on the political - religious theme of the story,
Some of the details are squeezed to much in to one story to make it fit for some reason... but if we take the main point, what we are left with, and as GREAT supporter of religious eugenics, i can still recommend this one as a beneficial for the ones that have not been thinking a lot about eugenics and want to get in to it with out much of an explosions.
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What this guys want from a space anyway?
I think anyone who is stupid enough wanting to leave Earth to go to space, should be allowed
(not encouraged, as you should wish good to people)
As clearly they did not realize where they born and why. They also have not discovered the inner body traveling skills it seems.
and just focus on the political - religious theme of the story,
Some of the details are squeezed to much in to one story to make it fit for some reason... but if we take the main point, what we are left with, and as GREAT supporter of religious eugenics, i can still recommend this one as a beneficial for the ones that have not been thinking a lot about eugenics and want to get in to it with out much of an explosions.
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What this guys want from a space anyway?
I think anyone who is stupid enough wanting to leave Earth to go to space, should be allowed
(not encouraged, as you should wish good to people)
As clearly they did not realize where they born and why. They also have not discovered the inner body traveling skills it seems.
6 February 2016 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And would add from here: http://www.blastr.com/2010/07/the_16_most_intelligent_s.php also this one: "Quatermass and the Pit " .. WELL..and the religious pi... as piibel :p and more
Just first 2 is good for now to keep yourself open . )
Just first 2 is good for now to keep yourself open . )
http://www.blastr.com/2010/07/the_16_most_intelligent_s.php
6 February 2016 19:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Film: https://kat.cr/gattaca-1997-1080p-brrip-x264-yify-t7274222.html
Suubakad: http://www.opensubtitles.org/en/subtitles/4054667/gattaca-et (kliki Gattaca subtitles Estonian lingil)
Suubakad: http://www.opensubtitles.org/en/subtitles/4054667/gattaca-et (kliki Gattaca subtitles Estonian lingil)
https://kat.cr/gattaca-1997-1080p-brrip-x264-yify-t7274222.html
6 February 2016 19:24
Margus Meigo commented on Kirn Gill's post.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
But it is good place to keep them on secret from a communists and others in their clan
Picture is clearly made by relgious person, just look how nicely these books are placed there, with a respect and love6 February 2016 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on Kirn Gill's post.
Group: Atheist and Theist Free Speech Discussions - But Be Polite!
dude just show hes level of understanding about relgion, great to know, epic (fail!)6 February 2016 00:35
Margus Meigo commented on Hanna-liis Jaeski's post.
Group: Tutvus
aga kuidas saab oinimestega kellel igav on midagi huvitavat thea ?6 February 2016 00:30
Margus Meigo replied to Asso Puidet's comment.
aas to mouth
5 February 2016 14:52
Margus Meigo commented on Asso Puidet's post.
untitled12 järg v
5 February 2016 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
So whose DNA is more suitable for good offsprings
(for japanese, for irish ? )
(for japanese, for irish ? )
5 February 2016 14:26
Margus Meigo commented on Asso Puidet's photo.
Elameemale
5 February 2016 14:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
NIng siis veel sellised asjad: "“Pealtnägija” saates ja Äripäevas avalikustatud Oleg Ljadovi lindistatud salvestised tunnistas ekspertiis kokku monteeritud võltsinguks"
http://www.aripaev.ee/uudised/2010/10/21/pealtnagija-avalikustas-ljadovi-salalindistused
Peab korra uuesti üle vaatama... kas selle kohta uuesti saade tehti, kus inimestele selgitati ,et välts linte lasti neile ette mängida, ning seega tasuks ka kõikide muude lindistuste ja tõendusmaterialide osas edaspidi sutsu tagasihoidlikum olla . (nu vähemasti seni, kuni seda uudiste tõestruktuuri pole veel portaalina valminud nagu mul plaanis ammust ajast.. )
http://www.aripaev.ee/uudised/2010/10/21/pealtnagija-avalikustas-ljadovi-salalindistused
Peab korra uuesti üle vaatama... kas selle kohta uuesti saade tehti, kus inimestele selgitati ,et välts linte lasti neile ette mängida, ning seega tasuks ka kõikide muude lindistuste ja tõendusmaterialide osas edaspidi sutsu tagasihoidlikum olla . (nu vähemasti seni, kuni seda uudiste tõestruktuuri pole veel portaalina valminud nagu mul plaanis ammust ajast.. )
http://www.aripaev.ee/uudised/2010/10/21/pealtnagija-avalikustas-ljadovi-salalindistused
5 February 2016 03:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muidugi arusaadav ka miks Mihku psühedeelikumide vastane ja relgiooni kriitik on, sest no.. nende tööriistade ja tarkuste aluspõhjadega, on imelihtne läbinäha seda maagiat ja teatrit mida korraldatakse.
Kuid noh, ega ühtegi geeniust ei tasu alahinnata, isegi kui ta kurigeenius on... neid tuleb veel eriti karta, eriti kui neil sellised vaimud sees käivad keda viimases saates kerge oli välja lugeda, kus täiesti austuse vabalt taolise Daami ees oldi. Irvitades, kaamerate ees kahekeelselt mõista andes ähvarduste sügavusest mis tal väljaütlemata varuks on oma riigi maine vastu.
Eestis on päris pätte ja mafiosse küll, eks mine ilgu nende kallal kui julged.
Ühesõnaga taolised vaimud on isikliku auloori ärakadumis hirmus ja riivata saades väga personaalselt kättemaksu huvilised, kasutades selleks täiesti suurt loori mis jätab mulje, nagu ei oleks midagi isiklikku.
Kuid noh, ega ühtegi geeniust ei tasu alahinnata, isegi kui ta kurigeenius on... neid tuleb veel eriti karta, eriti kui neil sellised vaimud sees käivad keda viimases saates kerge oli välja lugeda, kus täiesti austuse vabalt taolise Daami ees oldi. Irvitades, kaamerate ees kahekeelselt mõista andes ähvarduste sügavusest mis tal väljaütlemata varuks on oma riigi maine vastu.
Eestis on päris pätte ja mafiosse küll, eks mine ilgu nende kallal kui julged.
Ühesõnaga taolised vaimud on isikliku auloori ärakadumis hirmus ja riivata saades väga personaalselt kättemaksu huvilised, kasutades selleks täiesti suurt loori mis jätab mulje, nagu ei oleks midagi isiklikku.
5 February 2016 03:26
Margus Meigo replied to Joel Friedrich Steinfeldt's comment.
Aga miks Sa arvad, et ta värdjas on ?
5 February 2016 03:20
Margus Meigo replied to Joel Friedrich Steinfeldt's comment.
Eks ta muidugi oma edu tänu Rasmus Kaggele sopradele on saavutanud, (millega anda "sisu" heale kõneteatrit ja kaameratööle, mis muideks enamasti täiesti ebavajalik faktide edastamiseks, täeisti punaste stiil doccide edastamiseks, .. tasub vaadata ainult uusimad vene uurivad dokumentaale ja siis on hästi näha kus vigasi tehakse. )
Kuigi, loomulikult on kaamera ja graafikameeste töö hea, lihtsalt.. kas seda õigesti kasutatakse?
Kuigi, loomulikult on kaamera ja graafikameeste töö hea, lihtsalt.. kas seda õigesti kasutatakse?
5 February 2016 03:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Daniel Vaarik on siiamaani ainuke kes on mõjukamatest tarkadest julgenud ausalt ilmselget karjuvat teatrit inimestele lahti kirjutada, lühidalt. Sest keegi ju pidi... kuid sellele kahjuks keegi ei mõistnud ega julgenud järgneda ja nüüd on tulemus käes.
Kui inimene ennast sellisesse olukorda paneb, et sätib taoliste riigi nimel toimetavate inimeste vastassuunda, siis kes saab tema poolel olla?
( peale ajutises trotsis olevate anarhistliku mõtlemistega noorte ja kodumaas punapropakandaga pettuma trikitatud kaasmaalased )
http://memokraat.ee/2012/03/kuidas-vaadata-pealtnagijat/
Kui inimene ennast sellisesse olukorda paneb, et sätib taoliste riigi nimel toimetavate inimeste vastassuunda, siis kes saab tema poolel olla?
( peale ajutises trotsis olevate anarhistliku mõtlemistega noorte ja kodumaas punapropakandaga pettuma trikitatud kaasmaalased )
http://memokraat.ee/2012/03/kuidas-vaadata-pealtnagijat/
http://memokraat.ee/2012/03/kuidas-vaadata-pealtnagijat/
5 February 2016 03:16
Margus Meigo replied to Joel Friedrich Steinfeldt's comment.
Muidugi temast endast on natuke kahju ka siin.
Rääkides 1:1 rääkimisest, Kui Väärtnõu ta kokkusaamisele kutsus jamaajamisepeale, siis küll ei julgenud minna.
Kirjutama ja uurima oli aga küll usin, mitmeid kordi, mida sellisest arvata, kas ausad tagamaad?
Kuid see kõik on köömes, kui lihtsalt, ausalt uurida neid saateid ja vaadata, kas on neid elemente vaja, et eeldada, et rahavas on nii lammas, et teda vaja trikitama neid asju vaatama saada graafiliste ja heli effektidega?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=914JoaVgx_U (olgu kuidas on, aga inna kohvikust kasu ka ikka..)
Rääkides 1:1 rääkimisest, Kui Väärtnõu ta kokkusaamisele kutsus jamaajamisepeale, siis küll ei julgenud minna.
Kirjutama ja uurima oli aga küll usin, mitmeid kordi, mida sellisest arvata, kas ausad tagamaad?
Kuid see kõik on köömes, kui lihtsalt, ausalt uurida neid saateid ja vaadata, kas on neid elemente vaja, et eeldada, et rahavas on nii lammas, et teda vaja trikitama neid asju vaatama saada graafiliste ja heli effektidega?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=914JoaVgx_U (olgu kuidas on, aga inna kohvikust kasu ka ikka..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=914JoaVgx_U
5 February 2016 03:12
Margus Meigo replied to Joel Friedrich Steinfeldt's comment.
Kes keele-vaimu analüüsi võimega on koos reaalsete teadmistega mida vaja on maailmas, siis siin lihtsalt näha ja kuulda häälest, väga mitmes kohas need vabelused.. kui pole omas elemendis
5 February 2016 03:08
Margus Meigo replied to Joel Friedrich Steinfeldt's comment.
Täpselt sama kõnemaneeri ja teatri, varjunditega, saaks millest iganes samamoodi kaasahaarava loo teha ka sellest kuidas Taluvõi on vist salaliidus leivaga, ning arvatvasti on ka suured rahad ja siis kui rahad kohe ka ilmselge korruptisoon seotud. (muidugi ta oma arvamust harva julgeb öelda selgelt, alati viskab õhku viiteid mis inimeste meeled ühes või teises suunas arvama paneb... ise salakesi irvitades ja muiates nende üle keda ta suht lammasteks nimetab.. ehk enamus tavarahvast tema enda arust (muidugi kahjuks, kogu see punt keda ta ise alavääristab, on ka tema enda suurim fänklubi..https://youtu.be/F4nAdxJlwcs?t=152 ))
https://youtu.be/F4nAdxJlwcs?t=152
5 February 2016 03:06
Margus Meigo replied to Joel Friedrich Steinfeldt's comment.
Ma teda värdjaks ei nimetaks (muidugi Sul on see kõnepruuk üldse selline raskesõnaline vist alati olnud?), tegu ikka eliit mõjutajaga, kes relvastatud monotoonse hüptnotiseeriva hääle-sarmi-maagijaga ,
Raske on see, et kuna tegu on ennast riigi abil kehtestanud "uurimise standardiga" kellel me aitanud tekitada inimeste usaldust ja nüüd, kuna tema vaimsele taustale tähelepanu ei pandud.. on ta oma kodu kätt järades suht ülbe enesekindlusega puutumatu, eksimatu, ise enda ja paljude sõprade arvates.
ning sellest hoopis muus astmes suurem olev vaime arusaam mille läbi seda Teatrit saaks kritiseerida, ilmselget teatrit mis inimeste tarkust alavääristav.. seda ei saa eetrisse tuua, kuna eeltöö on sada aastat päris järjepidav olnud enamuse vaimupuuduliku maailmapildi juurutamise osas.
Raske on see, et kuna tegu on ennast riigi abil kehtestanud "uurimise standardiga" kellel me aitanud tekitada inimeste usaldust ja nüüd, kuna tema vaimsele taustale tähelepanu ei pandud.. on ta oma kodu kätt järades suht ülbe enesekindlusega puutumatu, eksimatu, ise enda ja paljude sõprade arvates.
ning sellest hoopis muus astmes suurem olev vaime arusaam mille läbi seda Teatrit saaks kritiseerida, ilmselget teatrit mis inimeste tarkust alavääristav.. seda ei saa eetrisse tuua, kuna eeltöö on sada aastat päris järjepidav olnud enamuse vaimupuuduliku maailmapildi juurutamise osas.
5 February 2016 03:00
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Toomend's post.
Jah, siis kui on sellist raha ja pensioni millega endale selline elamine tekitada... tava 90% pensionäridest võivad sellest ainult parimal juhul unistada, et sinna kasvõi korra sõitagi
4 February 2016 23:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kiui idioote kõrgelt harida, õpetada ja ligi olulisele lasta andes võimalusi ja enesekindlust, siis väike anne ja sharm muutub eriti ohtlikuks relvaks selliste käes, kuid tõe ees saavad kõik olema alasti.
Ja tõde on, et Sa oled oma Ema suhtes eksinud Kärmas
Ja tõde on, et Sa oled oma Ema suhtes eksinud Kärmas
4 February 2016 16:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kanepi loo veel sain andeks anda, kuna selles osas isegi targad inimesed ei julge veel tõde näha. Kuid see uss temast juba ammu enne seda lugu kõrgele paistis.. kuid kui see rahva vastane punane nüüd oma riigi kallale, ja nii kõrgeaulise Daamile sedasi pettumuse valmistas, siis sellega kirjutas ta enda Väärtuse lõpule alla, temaga on lõpp. Üle aasta ta ei peaks ka ERRs edasi olema.
Pole veel ühelgil hästi läinud kes mulle pole meeldinud, ei saa erinevus ka temal olema.
Ning kui ta arvab, et selle materialiga saab välja pressida mis kasutuses on ja mis lubati juurde anda, siis info omanikud ise peaksid kõigepealt saama aru vaimsete väärtuste kõrgusest ning siis nägema kas on midagi, millega ärplema tulla ?
Võtame ühendust
Pole veel ühelgil hästi läinud kes mulle pole meeldinud, ei saa erinevus ka temal olema.
Ning kui ta arvab, et selle materialiga saab välja pressida mis kasutuses on ja mis lubati juurde anda, siis info omanikud ise peaksid kõigepealt saama aru vaimsete väärtuste kõrgusest ning siis nägema kas on midagi, millega ärplema tulla ?
Võtame ühendust
4 February 2016 16:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
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https://www.facebook.com/Valdur-Mikita-austajate-klubi-501611979900503
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4 February 2016 15:45
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Ruukel's comment.
Tänud! :)))
4 February 2016 15:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Esiteks koostöö peaks olema elementaarne suund igale targale, kuid läbi kindlate vaimsete arusaamade.
Tuleb jätkusuutlikuse usunas arendeda.
Kui muidugi arusaamad puuduvad muud kui need mida "Venemaa" sõna otseses mõttes Sulle greeka hariduse järgiale on ette kirjutanud ,et Sind hoida viisnurkade vahel, oma väikeses maailmatajus kuni oma tütrete hinged oled viimseni linnas kaubaks suunanud.. siis muidugi raske, sest pole muud suunda kuhu minna häbis kui sinna kuhu see kes võmmu kuklasse annab käsib.
Saad ikka aru, et KOGU haridussüsteem oli lipsumeestesuguste kaudu eramaade ja kõrgkultuuride likvideerimiseks mõeldud?
Mitte see kiriklik süsteem.. vaid see spetsiaalselt suunatud süsteem mis lapsel teadvuskanalid arulagedate arvutuste ja eameeldivustega läbilõikab.
Tuleb jätkusuutlikuse usunas arendeda.
Kui muidugi arusaamad puuduvad muud kui need mida "Venemaa" sõna otseses mõttes Sulle greeka hariduse järgiale on ette kirjutanud ,et Sind hoida viisnurkade vahel, oma väikeses maailmatajus kuni oma tütrete hinged oled viimseni linnas kaubaks suunanud.. siis muidugi raske, sest pole muud suunda kuhu minna häbis kui sinna kuhu see kes võmmu kuklasse annab käsib.
Saad ikka aru, et KOGU haridussüsteem oli lipsumeestesuguste kaudu eramaade ja kõrgkultuuride likvideerimiseks mõeldud?
Mitte see kiriklik süsteem.. vaid see spetsiaalselt suunatud süsteem mis lapsel teadvuskanalid arulagedate arvutuste ja eameeldivustega läbilõikab.
4 February 2016 10:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But the other side of Sergey Mikhaylovich is same time kind of like Jew side of family, and wife also from same linage... not wearing any beard tho.. but still, that in the end is always big hope
To see if a boy works for a parents or against them (for religion in spiritual sense or against that in communist sense) ...
To see if a boy works for a parents or against them (for religion in spiritual sense or against that in communist sense) ...
4 February 2016 08:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
What kind of sorcery is that some might wonder..
PS: is not a magic
PS: is not a magic
4 February 2016 08:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja tiivulised taustal..
4 February 2016 08:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kellukeseelu
http://meigo.hol.es/margus/no%20nii%20on..et%20kuivab_2.gif
http://meigo.hol.es/margus/no%20nii%20on..et%20kuivab_2.gif
4 February 2016 08:04
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
Tervitusi lillelt mult siin, tna hommikused
http://meigo.hol.es/margus/no%20nii%20on..et%20kuivab.gif
http://meigo.hol.es/margus/no%20nii%20on..et%20kuivab.gif
http://meigo.hol.es/margus/no%20nii%20on..et%20kuivab.gif
4 February 2016 08:03
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
kuid keerame rooli ümber uuesti nüüd, nelgilõhna ootele : )
4 February 2016 07:39
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
Muidugi ma loodan omamoodi, et see Imperato tantsuFlow on suts irooniana mõeldud
4 February 2016 07:39
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
Meil muidugi vedanud, et me mustapoole dark räpparid on suht samavõimu suunas toimetavad omamaaall kui https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IfIy-J5Ui4 (haf kund, seadusekuulekus)
Kuigi vaja veel lifida seda usu suunas riivamist, mida nii kõrge rahvas endale lubama ei peaks
st. räppar. Kui Saarepoisist rääkida.. sest neede muude siin mainitute kohta.. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XxsvjqZU-Y ) noh.. mida öelda.. kui nad kokat ja lipse promovad
Kuigi vaja veel lifida seda usu suunas riivamist, mida nii kõrge rahvas endale lubama ei peaks
st. räppar. Kui Saarepoisist rääkida.. sest neede muude siin mainitute kohta.. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XxsvjqZU-Y ) noh.. mida öelda.. kui nad kokat ja lipse promovad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IfIy-J5Ui4
4 February 2016 07:29
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
isegi beebiteab https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZjPHRS1U0M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZjPHRS1U0M
4 February 2016 07:24
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
ja see saatejuht ka, ma ei imestaks kui ta homo poleks, sest selline pinnapeale retoorika ajuläbi teadus suunale kuid mitte avades südame kaudu. Ükskord siis kui ta "kanepist" loo tegi.. oli eriti näha veel.. et Eesti riik endiselt teleeetrisse laseb neid keda pole vaja lasta
lihtsalt sest neil oma power on...
kuid me kõi kteamemis on rohkem...
lihtsalt sest neil oma power on...
kuid me kõi kteamemis on rohkem...
4 February 2016 07:24
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
Kujuta ette, keegi Eesti iidsetesse metsadesse kutsuks muuvärvi külalise, teistpoolt maad.. kuhugi kuhu nad ühtegi kaamerat pole lasknud ja siis see asub ajama.. eesti mehele siin ja naisele "viskan sind metsast välja kui palju paugud" .. arvatvasti to soost vanalajal kaugemale poleks jõudnud
ja see nagu planeedi, ajaloo suhtes oluline samm edasi mida nad avastasid.. muidugi sumeri suhtes.. suunas.. seda veel rääkida ei julgeta, kuna liialt tõestust alles jäi kogematta neil, et ikka me alge Matriarhaatne..
ja see nagu planeedi, ajaloo suhtes oluline samm edasi mida nad avastasid.. muidugi sumeri suhtes.. suunas.. seda veel rääkida ei julgeta, kuna liialt tõestust alles jäi kogematta neil, et ikka me alge Matriarhaatne..
4 February 2016 07:20
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
Phaedra Sinatra kui mul oleks kadunud, siisma ei veedaks aega Suga rääkimises
4 February 2016 07:19
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
nad maailma tasemel avastusi tegid .. kuna usaldati neid sisse.. ja siis sellise taus "eesti mees" andis.. ja märgi maha jättis
http://etv2.err.ee/v/haridussaated/kadunud_tsivilisatsiooni_jalgedel/saated/08b26d6e-be93-4429-b1db-3cc90add2e39/kadunud-tsivilisatsiooni-jalgedel-47
http://etv2.err.ee/v/haridussaated/kadunud_tsivilisatsiooni_jalgedel/saated/08b26d6e-be93-4429-b1db-3cc90add2e39/kadunud-tsivilisatsiooni-jalgedel-47
http://etv2.err.ee/v/haridussaated/kadunud_tsivilisatsiooni_jalgedel/saated/08b26d6e-be93-4429-b1db-3cc90add2e39/kadunud-tsivilisatsiooni-jalgedel-47
4 February 2016 07:17
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
rääkin estolainen
Tegelikult ma tunnen suht häbi ühe Eestlase pundi pärast, kes koos eri vaimudes pojaga käsid maiade metsade sügavikus ja siis fakkis ja karius naise peale kes kohalik sela, ta sinna viis, lausa sedasi "tahad ma viskan su dzunglist välja"
see ainukesi lõike mis eetrisse lasti , selle mehe kiiduloost.. kuid nagu naise hilisemast ilmest oli tunda... et ega neil kenat maiku ei jäänud..
Tegelikult ma tunnen suht häbi ühe Eestlase pundi pärast, kes koos eri vaimudes pojaga käsid maiade metsade sügavikus ja siis fakkis ja karius naise peale kes kohalik sela, ta sinna viis, lausa sedasi "tahad ma viskan su dzunglist välja"
see ainukesi lõike mis eetrisse lasti , selle mehe kiiduloost.. kuid nagu naise hilisemast ilmest oli tunda... et ega neil kenat maiku ei jäänud..
4 February 2016 07:15
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
Vāgīśa Vägi-isa : )
4 February 2016 07:10
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
Phaedra Sinatra well, try to say that to Mike J.
4 February 2016 07:09
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
If one surrenders it self to Not knowing, then this is the highest one can get and can always feel pleasure of being lost
4 February 2016 07:08
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
Phaedra Sinatra am wear no socks nor underwear
4 February 2016 07:08
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
Albertˇ
As am open house for everyone just so few of the friends care to come and let me know in electronic protocol, what is needed
As am open house for everyone just so few of the friends care to come and let me know in electronic protocol, what is needed
4 February 2016 06:58
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
Phaedra Sinatra please nigga, Socrates.. what kind of smart He is compared to mati, Jaanus, Tõnu, Ants and even Alberto
True Wisdom is in knowing, that You know what is needed
for me
needed is to know to know what is needed
and that what is needed is needed for knowing what is needed to do more of this what expands that what others need, so You become useful for these many for who You become useful so it is beatifically for them to keep you requiring that what is needed, so they can get also more of this they like , that is more of betterment of the ones who are around them so they can help others and them self to grow in a most perfect way, or one can do all that just i love
i am as i love
True Wisdom is in knowing, that You know what is needed
for me
needed is to know to know what is needed
and that what is needed is needed for knowing what is needed to do more of this what expands that what others need, so You become useful for these many for who You become useful so it is beatifically for them to keep you requiring that what is needed, so they can get also more of this they like , that is more of betterment of the ones who are around them so they can help others and them self to grow in a most perfect way, or one can do all that just i love
i am as i love
4 February 2016 06:57
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
How would You know, if You are invited?
Or rather.. how would one know to invite ?
(as door has been open for long time...)
So please.. hold out no more...
on Your own free will,
As am not a Luci to call up for a women with an effort but rather a field of flower who just are, and are pleased if You like to pick but even more if You just lay with me.. but at most, give out a ... for these who look these kind of values
Or rather.. how would one know to invite ?
(as door has been open for long time...)
So please.. hold out no more...
on Your own free will,
As am not a Luci to call up for a women with an effort but rather a field of flower who just are, and are pleased if You like to pick but even more if You just lay with me.. but at most, give out a ... for these who look these kind of values
4 February 2016 06:51
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
(humble me)
4 February 2016 06:51
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
Anyone is invited in to me, who like the significant difference that they dare to see in me : )
4 February 2016 06:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Bearded Wonder-er in drag
https://www.virtualgallery.com/galleries/phaedra_a25566103/self_transforming_machine_elves_s15145/nature_of_reality_o183154
https://www.virtualgallery.com/galleries/phaedra_a25566103/self_transforming_machine_elves_s15145/nature_of_reality_o183154
https://www.virtualgallery.com/galleries/phaedra_a25566103/self_transforming_machine_elves_s15145/nature_of_reality_o183154
4 February 2016 06:49
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
How would You know `?
4 February 2016 06:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
To my masonic and supersonic friends:
https://www.virtualgallery.com/galleries/phaedra_a25566103/self_transforming_machine_elves_s15145/fool_o183146
https://www.virtualgallery.com/galleries/phaedra_a25566103/self_transforming_machine_elves_s15145/fool_o183146
https://www.virtualgallery.com/galleries/phaedra_a25566103/self_transforming_machine_elves_s15145/fool_o183146
4 February 2016 06:46
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
How Do You know i support? : )
4 February 2016 06:45
Margus Meigo commented on Bilvil Elhud's post.
WHoi, first time i see, that it can be active like that in FB wall video, really interesting technically as well
4 February 2016 06:39
Margus Meigo commented on Asso Puidet's post.
Samas väike kogus õiget viirust, vana nõiapoolt mädamunaga nendepoole visates paneb neid kõiki peagi verd köhima selleks ajaks kui nad oma järglaste juures tagasi on, vot Sul siis...
Täiesti imelugu, et siiani testitakse alles erinevate putukate või mille iganes peal aga päris relvi (need mis pauku ei tee) pole veel välja võetud mis mõlemal poolel varuks, ühel rohkem kui teisel..
Selle asemel jahutakse keemi relvadest, nagu need nüüd suur mure oleks... mida inimesed küll teeks kui poleks kõrgemat intelligentsi kes igast hullumeelsed plaanid juba eus likvideerib
(mida kõik need laborid on valmis keetnud ja keedavad siiani... mateeria, teadVus,bioloogia on need tandrid, kus päris lahengud käivad.. asi selles, et need paraleelid kes nendega kokku puutuvad, ei puutu enamasti peale seda enam millegagi kokku, sellepärast pole kamidagi kuulda veel, õnneks... sest kui kuuled, siis juba ollakse pea, et liiga ligidal )
Täiesti imelugu, et siiani testitakse alles erinevate putukate või mille iganes peal aga päris relvi (need mis pauku ei tee) pole veel välja võetud mis mõlemal poolel varuks, ühel rohkem kui teisel..
Selle asemel jahutakse keemi relvadest, nagu need nüüd suur mure oleks... mida inimesed küll teeks kui poleks kõrgemat intelligentsi kes igast hullumeelsed plaanid juba eus likvideerib
(mida kõik need laborid on valmis keetnud ja keedavad siiani... mateeria, teadVus,bioloogia on need tandrid, kus päris lahengud käivad.. asi selles, et need paraleelid kes nendega kokku puutuvad, ei puutu enamasti peale seda enam millegagi kokku, sellepärast pole kamidagi kuulda veel, õnneks... sest kui kuuled, siis juba ollakse pea, et liiga ligidal )
4 February 2016 06:36
Margus Meigo commented on Asso Puidet's post.
Reeglina maskides on kõik pätid.
Mitte oma ema lapsed.
Kuid jah.. need töllarid saaksid päris hea paugu nende CIA treenitud lääne tossudes mägi treeninguga meeste käest
Mitte oma ema lapsed.
Kuid jah.. need töllarid saaksid päris hea paugu nende CIA treenitud lääne tossudes mägi treeninguga meeste käest
4 February 2016 06:29
Margus Meigo commented on Sind on märgatud, rassist's photo.
Vahe on selles, et päriselt need on võlts terrordajad, nad varemgi neid vigu teinud, siinkohal tasuks tähelepanu pöörata jalanõudele.
NIng need patrioodid on nagu kartlikud kandoomid võrreldes nende meestega kes päriselt selliseid relvi kannavad.
Eelkõige kasutavad maske vaenlased, nagu ristiusuliste maski taga tehti asju, et ristiusku likvideerida, samamoodi tehakse "rahvusluse" maskitaga asju, et rahvuslust likvideerida
Ega punased eile sündinud pole,juba enne rooma aega sündisid nod va raisad
NIng need patrioodid on nagu kartlikud kandoomid võrreldes nende meestega kes päriselt selliseid relvi kannavad.
Eelkõige kasutavad maske vaenlased, nagu ristiusuliste maski taga tehti asju, et ristiusku likvideerida, samamoodi tehakse "rahvusluse" maskitaga asju, et rahvuslust likvideerida
Ega punased eile sündinud pole,juba enne rooma aega sündisid nod va raisad
4 February 2016 06:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nendele meestele ka...
Kes te mustatud seemenst tulnud või oma seemnesse mustust lasknud
"Kella kümneni on veidi aega veel,
sina jälle sammud poe poole sead
ja siis õhinal nagu alati
kilekotitäie õlut koju vead.
See ei olevat ju mingi kange kraam,
mehel olla ei saa joogiks lahja lurr...
Küsid, kas ma olen mingi peenutseja daam,
vastan vihaselt, et jah, olen küll.
Mina olen oodanud sind juba liiga mitu ööd...
Sina aga pudeliga jälle aega surnuks lööd.
Ära tule mulle kägu ajama,
et see oli viimane kord,
istun autosse ja panen ajama
see mu oma armas Mondeo Ford.
Võid nüüd üksi ennast välja magada
või ka igaveseks põhja käia.
Mul sind kahju pole jätta maha ka,
pole meest, pole ämma ja äia.
Mina olen oodanud sind juba liiga mitu ööd...
Sina aga pudeliga jälle aega surnuks lööd.
See ei ole mingi kõrgem matemaatika teoreem,
ütlen sulle otse välja, kuule, mees, sul on probleem.
Saan sult sõnumi, et tule tagasi
ja et armastad mind forever,
aga mina olen juba pakkind pagasi
ja alanud on järgmine level.
Elan Ibizal ja siin on päris hea
juba kohtasin üht kena meest,
kes mind hoiab ja kellele ei pea
olema koguaeg ema eest.
Mina olen oodanud sind juba liiga mitu ööd...
Sina aga pudeliga jälle aega surnuks lööd.
See ei ole mingi kõrgem matemaatika teoreem,
ütlen sulle otse välja, kuule, mees, sul on probleem.
Räägid, et ma olen ilge mõrd ja peenutseja daam,
kuid ma olen lihtsalt liiga õrn ja samas kange ka. "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYKHaZTtxBM
Kes te mustatud seemenst tulnud või oma seemnesse mustust lasknud
"Kella kümneni on veidi aega veel,
sina jälle sammud poe poole sead
ja siis õhinal nagu alati
kilekotitäie õlut koju vead.
See ei olevat ju mingi kange kraam,
mehel olla ei saa joogiks lahja lurr...
Küsid, kas ma olen mingi peenutseja daam,
vastan vihaselt, et jah, olen küll.
Mina olen oodanud sind juba liiga mitu ööd...
Sina aga pudeliga jälle aega surnuks lööd.
Ära tule mulle kägu ajama,
et see oli viimane kord,
istun autosse ja panen ajama
see mu oma armas Mondeo Ford.
Võid nüüd üksi ennast välja magada
või ka igaveseks põhja käia.
Mul sind kahju pole jätta maha ka,
pole meest, pole ämma ja äia.
Mina olen oodanud sind juba liiga mitu ööd...
Sina aga pudeliga jälle aega surnuks lööd.
See ei ole mingi kõrgem matemaatika teoreem,
ütlen sulle otse välja, kuule, mees, sul on probleem.
Saan sult sõnumi, et tule tagasi
ja et armastad mind forever,
aga mina olen juba pakkind pagasi
ja alanud on järgmine level.
Elan Ibizal ja siin on päris hea
juba kohtasin üht kena meest,
kes mind hoiab ja kellele ei pea
olema koguaeg ema eest.
Mina olen oodanud sind juba liiga mitu ööd...
Sina aga pudeliga jälle aega surnuks lööd.
See ei ole mingi kõrgem matemaatika teoreem,
ütlen sulle otse välja, kuule, mees, sul on probleem.
Räägid, et ma olen ilge mõrd ja peenutseja daam,
kuid ma olen lihtsalt liiga õrn ja samas kange ka. "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYKHaZTtxBM
4 February 2016 06:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei me ei alahinda, kuid Su väärtus tõuseb ainuüksi, sest Sind hinnatakse
Keegi viies?
Keegi viies?
4 February 2016 06:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
Kuid meeles pidada
sakstele me veel andestame, nende mõisad juba põlenud, kuid mida tee ülejäänud silicon punased siin arvutate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNJvgYR-ylM
Kuid meeles pidada
sakstele me veel andestame, nende mõisad juba põlenud, kuid mida tee ülejäänud silicon punased siin arvutate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNJvgYR-ylM
4 February 2016 06:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eelajaloolise kosmoselaeva uus level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FLkJc-oOhg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FLkJc-oOhg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FLkJc-oOhg
4 February 2016 05:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. Hajee!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw4cZ7U-tG0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw4cZ7U-tG0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw4cZ7U-tG0
4 February 2016 05:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mõisatele
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-12u9hpD2bY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-12u9hpD2bY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-12u9hpD2bY
4 February 2016 05:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUZP2uPDRfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUZP2uPDRfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUZP2uPDRfw
4 February 2016 05:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
For Estonia Yong Child-Children called Germans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txWzn0iRng0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txWzn0iRng0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txWzn0iRng0
4 February 2016 05:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
google translate in completely clueless what is song about.. for now..
4 February 2016 05:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
Tiidust-tiidust, Tiiu reied,
karu oli kiskund Kaie reied,
unt oli Anne ammustanud,
käkki Kaie karvustanud!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyWybEZaJPA
Tiidust-tiidust, Tiiu reied,
karu oli kiskund Kaie reied,
unt oli Anne ammustanud,
käkki Kaie karvustanud!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyWybEZaJPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyWybEZaJPA
4 February 2016 05:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Ega muidu pahu vaime välja saa, peab suts liigutama
rõõmus
rõõmus
4 February 2016 05:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Mida sina teed, kui varakult kontoris oled?
4 February 2016 05:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
Varajane ärkamine oli täna tööl, kell 5 hommikul : )
4 February 2016 05:33
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's album.
if you want to find love, then moove to wooden farm land
4 February 2016 05:21
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Välk's post.
Sul on Vene agent (venemaad Eesti nimel ärritav), kes kunagi kaposse helistas ja ütles et peksab lihula samba puruks kui see ära ei viida, tekitades suure venelaste ja eestlaste vahelise vihalaine .. sul on see kutt erakonna eesotsas, ja (siinkohal kogu austus ikkagi agendile, sest ega ma teda ka austan, tubli OMA tööd teeb) lisaks muudele agentidele meesteliitudest ja siis imestate, et nagu lõheneks, kui plaan oligi ju hoida Eesti Vabaerakond hoida selliselt, et ta ei saaks liikuda.
Inimesed nagu oleks ajukiirituse saanud, elementaarseid punkte ei panda kokku.
Inimesed nagu oleks ajukiirituse saanud, elementaarseid punkte ei panda kokku.
3 February 2016 21:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eks varsti nagu reklaami blokkeril, saab FB siseselt ka liste tõmmata kus juba eelnevalt kirja pandud asjade plokkimised mida inimestele vaja pole.
Kes neid ükshaaval jõuab keelata.
Kes neid ükshaaval jõuab keelata.
3 February 2016 17:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kohe kui selle ühe teada saame , siis saadame otse snaiperi selle äppi suunas.
(neid võib ka Sul palju olla, mänge jms)
Kõige parem on kohe keelu alla panna kahtlased mängukutsed jms, mul see list väga suur kus asjad plokitud ja juba aastaid pole muresi olnud
See asub siis sellisel aadressil: https://www.facebook.com/settings?tab=blocking ... kuid käsitsi sinna tykkida suts nüri, iga mängu enda juures on ka nupp plokkimiseks.
(neid võib ka Sul palju olla, mänge jms)
Kõige parem on kohe keelu alla panna kahtlased mängukutsed jms, mul see list väga suur kus asjad plokitud ja juba aastaid pole muresi olnud
See asub siis sellisel aadressil: https://www.facebook.com/settings?tab=blocking ... kuid käsitsi sinna tykkida suts nüri, iga mängu enda juures on ka nupp plokkimiseks.
3 February 2016 17:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
See kaitseb teisi selle eest, et "Viirusega" nakatunu nende seinale ei saaks panna ebavajalikku. Kuid kui Sul on üks ebavajalik programm FaceBooki kontole lisatud, siis tema toimetab ikka edasi lihtsalt abinõu võtnud sõbrad ei nakatu. Vabandust unustasin seda mainida kuigi oli keelel viimane kord
VÄGA veider, et peale nii pikka aega, FB seda programmi pole toimetamisest keelanud nüüdseks juba. Erioperatsioonid tavaliselt ka vähem aega võtavad mida meelega lastakse inimeste seintele.
Millised programmid Su kontole lisatud on?
Lisan pildi selle kohta:
VÄGA veider, et peale nii pikka aega, FB seda programmi pole toimetamisest keelanud nüüdseks juba. Erioperatsioonid tavaliselt ka vähem aega võtavad mida meelega lastakse inimeste seintele.
Millised programmid Su kontole lisatud on?
Lisan pildi selle kohta:
3 February 2016 17:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Valgustunud kristluse sisse mahuvad KÕIK arusaamad, Eesti Vanatarkusest Shamanismi ja Lao Tzeni, VooDoost teaduseni ...seega miks siin jalgratast leiutada, et "nagu oleks vaja feder..." mis ei ole veel v?
Nu kui Sa ei tea, et on, siis ilmselgelt pole Sa veel aru saanud, et on.
(voot kus on hea lause!)
Ennast kiitmast ma ei väsi, kui ka väsin, siis puhkan ja alustan jälle uuesti!
Nu kui Sa ei tea, et on, siis ilmselgelt pole Sa veel aru saanud, et on.
(voot kus on hea lause!)
Ennast kiitmast ma ei väsi, kui ka väsin, siis puhkan ja alustan jälle uuesti!
3 February 2016 10:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Bahai usk tuletab meelde sitanikerdist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFMUQLEkkYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFMUQLEkkYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFMUQLEkkYU
3 February 2016 10:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid lihtne diagnoos on üldiselt, niikui näete sõna "Võrdõiguslikus" siis tegu pahaga, Eriti kui nad seda pole nõus Matriarhaatliku arusaama suunas loovutama, siis kas on
a) tegu robotitega (sel juhul nendega nõustuda tuleb kuni nad uue programmi uuenduse saavad, uue valemi asjade arusaamiseks kuidas tegelikult on)
b) on tegu otseselt vähem targemate või kurjategijatega, kes töötavad inimliigi ja looduse vastu.
a) tegu robotitega (sel juhul nendega nõustuda tuleb kuni nad uue programmi uuenduse saavad, uue valemi asjade arusaamiseks kuidas tegelikult on)
b) on tegu otseselt vähem targemate või kurjategijatega, kes töötavad inimliigi ja looduse vastu.
3 February 2016 10:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kerge fookus mõne sõnaga:
Eelarvamused - vajalikud turvaliseks suhtlemiseks
Võrdõiguslikus - tulnukhomode propakanda
Usu põhiolemus - on tõesed ja vääralisemad usud
Rikkus - las jääb õigustatud kuues
Vaesus - las areneb vabanemise suunas
Haridus - Milline, Shamaani põhine või?
Teadus - Väga hea, kui areneb relgiooni suunas.
Religioon - Hea, kui on teaduse tööriistast ees.
Tasakaal -
Jätkusuutlikus -
föderaalsüsteemi -
Julgeolek -
Ainsus -
Eelarvamused - vajalikud turvaliseks suhtlemiseks
Võrdõiguslikus - tulnukhomode propakanda
Usu põhiolemus - on tõesed ja vääralisemad usud
Rikkus - las jääb õigustatud kuues
Vaesus - las areneb vabanemise suunas
Haridus - Milline, Shamaani põhine või?
Teadus - Väga hea, kui areneb relgiooni suunas.
Religioon - Hea, kui on teaduse tööriistast ees.
Tasakaal -
Jätkusuutlikus -
föderaalsüsteemi -
Julgeolek -
Ainsus -
3 February 2016 10:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and what else could we have done on this time we look a TV for spending time or accepting less interesting people company just for being "polite"
3 February 2016 09:35
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
hahaha, true (about tickets)
Life tho.. Who.. how long it can be, according to how we live
And You life Hoosier for sure not one of the short ones,
if you would write down, every mentioning worth happening that for avarage office worker are more then ordinary, every joke that was worth laughting, every moment that bas beautiful... and little bit surround these words with surroundings what was then, and why it is important, good, interesting... this is not even including all the dangerous, sad and hard serious situations in personal life and in work...
Then what you think, how long this book would come?
Seems to me, like miles long at least on Your life
Life tho.. Who.. how long it can be, according to how we live
And You life Hoosier for sure not one of the short ones,
if you would write down, every mentioning worth happening that for avarage office worker are more then ordinary, every joke that was worth laughting, every moment that bas beautiful... and little bit surround these words with surroundings what was then, and why it is important, good, interesting... this is not even including all the dangerous, sad and hard serious situations in personal life and in work...
Then what you think, how long this book would come?
Seems to me, like miles long at least on Your life
3 February 2016 09:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
just a 1000+ years Germans, just a 1000 years....
imagine then how we felt (when You came) and feel right now
imagine then how we felt (when You came) and feel right now
2 February 2016 19:43
Margus Meigo commented on Avokaado's link.
Tundub tore : )
2 February 2016 18:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
When was a Russian made, was them here 1000, 3000 years ago ?
2 February 2016 18:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Who is Russian?
2 February 2016 18:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or at least, wronger and better
2 February 2016 17:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Can You swim in dual world of right and bad?
Of good and wrong ?
Of good and wrong ?
2 February 2016 17:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jim Williamson i hope you not : )
/for now, there is only 2 colors, movement direction of a god and movement away, against from correct direction/
/there is option to grow upward and forward, that is accepted/
But what You think, what color sounds more of what side ?
And with what values, in duality ultimate world ?
/for now, there is only 2 colors, movement direction of a god and movement away, against from correct direction/
/there is option to grow upward and forward, that is accepted/
But what You think, what color sounds more of what side ?
And with what values, in duality ultimate world ?
2 February 2016 17:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oh, great, You agree : )
2 February 2016 17:30
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis van Kaldalu's post.
Group: Infovabadus
Manzon on täitsa ok2 February 2016 15:50
Margus Meigo replied to Daniel Raissar's comment.
Group: Infovabadus
No he is not : )2 February 2016 15:49
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's post.
Survive the school, it is needed
2 February 2016 15:49
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's post.
Huggs Huggs from Estonia!
2 February 2016 15:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Teine Bulgaaria film mille suunas tal huvi.. on ka suht Borne Identity suunaline.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noRS-StJJw0 Peab neid Holliwoody väliseid filme lausa vaatama hakkama, onja : )
2 February 2016 12:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Mille keskmes omakorda on iraan, middle east, Teşkilât-ı Mahsusa...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Organization_%28Ottoman_Empire%29 Kuid see lihtsalt mõeldud enterteiment purposes... ning arvestades selle porri religiooset tausta mis ka mitmete preestrite seinal siin ja kenasi naisi mis piltidel (et rämedaid riistu ei olnud kuskil näha, sest sellise mustusega ei saa religioosed erioppide vennad tegeleda..)
Tavaline trikk on muidugi ka ennast meelega süüdi teha, lihtsalt läbinähtaval tasandil, et siis ei saaks keegi süüdistada.. sest kes see ikka avalikult...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Organization_%28Ottoman_Empire%29 Kuid see lihtsalt mõeldud enterteiment purposes... ning arvestades selle porri religiooset tausta mis ka mitmete preestrite seinal siin ja kenasi naisi mis piltidel (et rämedaid riistu ei olnud kuskil näha, sest sellise mustusega ei saa religioosed erioppide vennad tegeleda..)
Tavaline trikk on muidugi ka ennast meelega süüdi teha, lihtsalt läbinähtaval tasandil, et siis ei saaks keegi süüdistada.. sest kes see ikka avalikult...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Organization_%28Ottoman_Empire%29
2 February 2016 12:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Mis viitab sellele filmile: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1018501/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1018501/
2 February 2016 12:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
FUnki lisab veel juurde, filmike mida sama erameiliga kutt oma kontole pannud: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beHhMIHgvJU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beHhMIHgvJU
2 February 2016 12:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
MUidugi natuke muigamapanev avalik informatsioon meelega selle kõige osas on järgmine, et reklaami aknad ja see hostingu serveri teenus on sellise nimelise kutiga seotud nagu İsmet Yılmaz ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/İsmet_Yılmaz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/İsmet_Yılmaz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/İsmet_Yılmaz
2 February 2016 12:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid need lihtsalt pealiskaudsed ühendused, USA ütleks, et strawman, ei tasu väga pingesse minna veel :)
2 February 2016 12:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Teskijat siis node maades, nagu Sul tuttav arvatvasti: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Organization_%28Ottoman_Empire%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Organization_%28Ottoman_Empire%29
2 February 2016 12:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mis viitab sellele filmile: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1018501/
Ehk siis huvid Riikliku turvateenusega, teskijatiga küll..
Ehk siis huvid Riikliku turvateenusega, teskijatiga küll..
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1018501/
2 February 2016 12:12
Margus Meigo commented on Aimar Altosaar's post.
Muidugi mine tea..
sama emailiga kutt tundub, et on ka sellise filmiklipi üles pannud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beHhMIHgvJU
sama emailiga kutt tundub, et on ka sellise filmiklipi üles pannud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beHhMIHgvJU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beHhMIHgvJU
2 February 2016 12:08
Margus Meigo commented on Aimar Altosaar's post.
Muidugi tasub olla ettevaatlik, sest server on registreeritud sama nimelisele mehele nagu İsmet Yılmaz .. kuid noh eks nimesi võib igaüks kasutada, ega need kasutamise vastu kaitstud pole päris maailmas...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/İsmet_Yılmaz
Eks neil põhjust uurida Meie valgete siivutust.. kes kui palju klikib.. tõestusmaterialiks jms .. :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/İsmet_Yılmaz
Eks neil põhjust uurida Meie valgete siivutust.. kes kui palju klikib.. tõestusmaterialiks jms .. :)
2 February 2016 11:57
Margus Meigo commented on Aimar Altosaar's post.
2 February 2016 11:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Lehel varsti allalaetavad tasuta skriptid ja prorammid ka, tavapärase kuid sügava puhastuse tarvis. Ebatavaliste viiruste ja nuhkidepüüdjatega : )
2 February 2016 11:46
Margus Meigo commented on Mikk Marran's post.
Muidugi see kutt vist ei mõista, et paljudel nendel lastel on võimed inimest mitu taset läbi vaadata, et kas see kes ütleb, ütleb midagi mida ta päriselt usub, aru saab ja mõistab.
Eriti nähakse seda, kas asju tehakse südamest või kohustusest, vajalikuse tundest
Kuid sedasi rutiinselt eba individuaalselt kommenteerides inimesi.. kuidas ise arvame, et nii meeldiks kellele?
Eriti nähakse seda, kas asju tehakse südamest või kohustusest, vajalikuse tundest
Kuid sedasi rutiinselt eba individuaalselt kommenteerides inimesi.. kuidas ise arvame, et nii meeldiks kellele?
2 February 2016 11:31
Margus Meigo commented on Aimar Altosaar's post.
Armas : )
2 February 2016 11:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But i can still clearly feel the "Blue" spirit vibe from them instead of the red.
2 February 2016 11:13
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
But i do like Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency - DARPA
for a leaking to us, what is http://opencatalog.darpa.mil/ on production and possible, so people can be mentally better prepared, for bigger things.. that can not surprise us then when new tech is all around us
for a leaking to us, what is http://opencatalog.darpa.mil/ on production and possible, so people can be mentally better prepared, for bigger things.. that can not surprise us then when new tech is all around us
http://opencatalog.darpa.mil/
2 February 2016 11:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
2 February 2016 11:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and army that should protect them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_US_Army_Chief_of_Staff.svg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_US_Army_Chief_of_Staff.svg
2 February 2016 10:38
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
Well, "not allies or exactly enemies" sounds to me like a bit of alien,
a bit of like Soviets who newer really look people as their enemy but as resource that belong to them for various reasons and research for future experiments. If they agree to co-operate.
I say that, so we would know where we need to turn our eyes, who we need to protect and guide, as it is to big.. and to much of an military orientated (the google) to ignore.
It is hard for people to spot a highest level of communism as it is what they live inside them self as dreamed highest value, if they are followers of Greek-Roman education, entertainment, values.... as then, entire their thoughts and directions are known, predictable and nurtured by The Communists (as the Spirituality behind the pentagram)
Many people even kind of forget what symbols are on their flag
http://www.flagsonline.it/asp/flag.asp/flag_us%20grand%20star%201818%20-%201819/us%20grand%20star%201818%20-%201819.html
a bit of like Soviets who newer really look people as their enemy but as resource that belong to them for various reasons and research for future experiments. If they agree to co-operate.
I say that, so we would know where we need to turn our eyes, who we need to protect and guide, as it is to big.. and to much of an military orientated (the google) to ignore.
It is hard for people to spot a highest level of communism as it is what they live inside them self as dreamed highest value, if they are followers of Greek-Roman education, entertainment, values.... as then, entire their thoughts and directions are known, predictable and nurtured by The Communists (as the Spirituality behind the pentagram)
Many people even kind of forget what symbols are on their flag
http://www.flagsonline.it/asp/flag.asp/flag_us%20grand%20star%201818%20-%201819/us%20grand%20star%201818%20-%201819.html
http://www.flagsonline.it/asp/flag.asp/flag_us%20grand%20star%201818%20-%201819/us%20grand%20star%201818%20-%201819.html
2 February 2016 10:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
just look the teams of scientists they have assembled just in a " Verily " department openly..
2 February 2016 10:15
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
As it is "Russian" company eventually, they will take openly soon the eugenics and biological warfare in new level, ... soon enough
2 February 2016 10:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But Donald it self, does look rather positive looking, not the evil kind really, as some on rich level.. you can see the proper bad spirits that wanna make you vomit easy, but he is .. alright
just some of the knowledge is not there jet.
Of-course, it is big worry, that if Hillary can not be stopped by enemy then enemy will use opposite tactics rising her wrong way up in a way that she will end up to be repulsive bitch (by still keeping old anti campaign in work) .. and hurt her same time.. and piss her off.. and then we will have another trouble in whole new level, but lets hope people up there who know spiritualism, will be supported by common people coming ages in lengths that no one will get hurt who is not needed
meaning... lets hope the proper values will be focused and protected by people them self.. the team of angels can not do it against all people will specially if many of them are proper religious but missing some knowledge about what they are
just some of the knowledge is not there jet.
Of-course, it is big worry, that if Hillary can not be stopped by enemy then enemy will use opposite tactics rising her wrong way up in a way that she will end up to be repulsive bitch (by still keeping old anti campaign in work) .. and hurt her same time.. and piss her off.. and then we will have another trouble in whole new level, but lets hope people up there who know spiritualism, will be supported by common people coming ages in lengths that no one will get hurt who is not needed
meaning... lets hope the proper values will be focused and protected by people them self.. the team of angels can not do it against all people will specially if many of them are proper religious but missing some knowledge about what they are
2 February 2016 10:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eesti maamehe juttu
https://youtu.be/ZyIKNrZHDvA?t=1500
https://youtu.be/ZyIKNrZHDvA?t=1500
https://youtu.be/ZyIKNrZHDvA?t=1500
2 February 2016 10:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The Sweden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR-lAGj_dlQ&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR-lAGj_dlQ&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR-lAGj_dlQ&feature=youtu.be
2 February 2016 09:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The france
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqybsUqkOWs&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqybsUqkOWs&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqybsUqkOWs&feature=youtu.be
2 February 2016 09:30
Margus Meigo replied to Avo-rein Tereping's comment.
Eve Kubi aga nende tehnoloogia ongi, selles, see ongi sõna otseses mõttes teater.. sest nad Greeka-Rooma järglased.. (kuna enamus meist austab ja elab rooma haridusesüsteemi sees, siis nemad on need kes meie üle naeravad, et seda eetrisse lubame ilma õige väljakutseta) seega oluline pole, et et kõigile meeeldida, vaid meelega luua kaks ekstreemi, ühed kes ilmselgelt ei usu mida nad räägivad ja teised kes usuvad, et nad ikka julged ja kavalad, et midagi sellist räägivad.. ja siis ongi kaks uut poolt loodud
selle lahti seletamiseks läheks suts aega.. aga see mis nad teevad, on VÄGA INTELLIGENTNE ja ülbe samal ajal. See ,et keegi arvab ennast tark olema, arvates, et see pole tark asi mida nad teevad.. ei tee seda inimest targaks kui me ei teadvusta selle kahju ohtlikust.
Muidugi arusaadav kui Suures, relgiooselt ülbes plaanis vastu vaadata, et sellised kõik kunagi lõpuks likvideeritakse.. jah.. siis võib sutsu irvitada, kuid.. enne seda, saab väga suur hulk irvitaja kaasmaalasi ja perekonnast otsa, õpetuseks.. et lubasid marutaudihaigel ringi joosta ja lapsi hammustada, kes seda paitama läksid ja ei saanud ohtlikusest aru.. ei ole siis ju viisakas naerda nende laste peale.. "näe ise on nii lambad.. kas nad siis ei näinud et..."
... ei näinud.. sest neid tõmmati varem, mõne teise maagia ja nõidusega, paari õige sõna ja lausega muudest lehtedest ja slooganitest koosneva tehnoloogiaga sinna sappa.. kus meelega öeldi midagi väga õiget, .. piisab paarist lausest mitte relgioosele inimesele, et ta teise sappa jääks kergesti ning prooviks läbi millise iganes loogika aastaid hiljem endiselt sama tõde leida kõigest millega see inimene seotud... see ka põhjus poliitpartides... armastusega manipuleeerimine..
selle lahti seletamiseks läheks suts aega.. aga see mis nad teevad, on VÄGA INTELLIGENTNE ja ülbe samal ajal. See ,et keegi arvab ennast tark olema, arvates, et see pole tark asi mida nad teevad.. ei tee seda inimest targaks kui me ei teadvusta selle kahju ohtlikust.
Muidugi arusaadav kui Suures, relgiooselt ülbes plaanis vastu vaadata, et sellised kõik kunagi lõpuks likvideeritakse.. jah.. siis võib sutsu irvitada, kuid.. enne seda, saab väga suur hulk irvitaja kaasmaalasi ja perekonnast otsa, õpetuseks.. et lubasid marutaudihaigel ringi joosta ja lapsi hammustada, kes seda paitama läksid ja ei saanud ohtlikusest aru.. ei ole siis ju viisakas naerda nende laste peale.. "näe ise on nii lambad.. kas nad siis ei näinud et..."
... ei näinud.. sest neid tõmmati varem, mõne teise maagia ja nõidusega, paari õige sõna ja lausega muudest lehtedest ja slooganitest koosneva tehnoloogiaga sinna sappa.. kus meelega öeldi midagi väga õiget, .. piisab paarist lausest mitte relgioosele inimesele, et ta teise sappa jääks kergesti ning prooviks läbi millise iganes loogika aastaid hiljem endiselt sama tõde leida kõigest millega see inimene seotud... see ka põhjus poliitpartides... armastusega manipuleeerimine..
2 February 2016 09:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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see veel omamoodi lugu, et to rase naine pidi saatana lapsele andma sündi nagu ta mehe filmis maagiaga näidetud oli, kuid see veel lisa mõtte andmiseks,2 February 2016 07:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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muidugi mingid idioodid panid sellest sellise lamedamõttelise filsoofia kokku: http://people.virginia.edu/~sfr/enam481/groupd/helter_skelter.htm
(arvetades, charli mõtteid ja sõnu.. on ilmselge, et ta ei saa sellisel nõrgal tasemel mõelda)http://people.virginia.edu/~sfr/enam481/groupd/helter_skelter.htm
2 February 2016 07:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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muidugi on alati erandeid.. kuid need nendeks..2 February 2016 07:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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.:. kuid kuulata seda imalat eellugu, mis moodi ta pannakse päti rüüse... muidugi vaja mainida LSDd.. arusaamata, et LSD on kurjuse vastaseid VÄGA võimsaid relvi.. sellepärast narkarid ei julge neid asju puutuda, kardavad täiega..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4uT6ou_ZGw2 February 2016 07:41
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
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Inimestel kahjuks selliseks ajud keeratud, et ei suuda kuulata ega aru saada tema sõnadest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxUw1jp1EZI (ta ka lükkas esimese mustade laine edasi.. kuid see laine tuleb veel suuremalt peale.. läbi punaste ... või noh, nad algusest peale punased olnud..)
Ma pole veel näinud ühtegi tarka inimest, kes arvaks, et Manson on halbhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxUw1jp1EZI
2 February 2016 07:40
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
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Tuleb fokuseerida relvad ka selle VAIMU suunas, mitte ainult värvi,
kuna täpselt sarnaseid lugusi tulnud ka valgete suust,
lihtsalt numbriliselt neid haigeid rohkem lisaks nende arusaamatusele räägivad ka rohkem ja haritamatuse tõttu avalikumad rohkem kuid jah.. kunagi me ei tohi selle triki ohvriks siin praegu langeda, et rassidevahelist viha mida MEELEGA proovitakse tekitada (kuigi vaideldamatult, osad liigid ja osad rassiliigid on ilmselgelt vähemarenenud ja vigasemad kui mõned kes ennast pikka aega teadlikult parandanud ja elult tuhandeid aastaid järjest õppinud, nagu me oma maalased siin...)
Igatahes see on nende trik. punaste.. tekitada kustutamatu viha nii suur värvide osas, et me hakkaksime tegema vigasi, libastuma , ja samamoodi ründama ka neid kes nende seas on austatud ja respekteeritud, kui päris usklikud ja pühad.. ja siis on meie persses mitte see väike paarkümend kuni paarsada millionit suur grupp, vaid siis on tegu Miljarditega, kellega oleme vastamisi.
"Venkud" keskendusid näiteks hiinlaste alavääristamisele üleolevalt ja vaikselt.. kristlastele moslemid... valgetele pruunid ja mustad... ja mustadele ammu räägitud nende kanalitest, et on aeg hakata valket devilit üle võtma.. ja kui vaja siis kasutage selleks kasvõi neid sammuseid mustasi kriminaale, kelle ise hiljem maha võite lüüa kuid oma vaenlase hävitamiseks sobivad küll.. ... .. sest neile mustade kriminaalide poolt öeldakse,:
"need valged ussid.. nad ei ole inimlikud, nad on palju hullemad.l. vaata mida nad suures plaanis teevad ja millised kusepead nad on kui ..." ... ja lisavad "...vaata, kindel tõestus, kui karbis nad on.. et kui robotid, nad ei oska meie ja sinu vahel isegi vahet teha... kuigi on ilmselge kumb meist tegelikult Must on hingelt... seega .. kas Sa julgeksid sellsied siia planeedile jätta, on neid vaja? " jne jne kuni selle korraliku moslemi või mustale tuleb vastu mõni grupp, kes neid sõnu tõestab nende suunas kivi visates või mõne haige lause
ja siis samm sammult, erinevad hingelt hea suunalised eri värvilised ja eri usulised.. lõpuks on otsuse ligidal.. lubada oma enda mustadel edasi liikuda... inflatratsiooniga mille jäätmeid neil lihtsam koristada...
vs ... et nad hakkaksid ise likvideerima oma sitta, mille identifitseerimisel me saaksime kaasa aidata (ja ka nemad saaksid, mis moodi "nendel" vahet teha)2 February 2016 07:38
Margus Meigo replied to Ines Pärna's comment.
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elementaarsed seadused on alatised2 February 2016 07:21
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's post.
But we Do need Hillary there to win tho, as the only other option that will be next to Her, is something that for sure, will be respected less and will show USA as a joke country where anyone with a money and media influence can end up as a ruler, even if they have no political experience..
But i do believe, trump has Way strong people on hes back, that we have not hear of.. that can do wonders.. but this will be short time success compared to how many steps ahead we can go with Hillary (or rather, by skipping in history many steps.. and She will be anyway last women president so.. )
long live monarchic matriarchy!
But i do believe, trump has Way strong people on hes back, that we have not hear of.. that can do wonders.. but this will be short time success compared to how many steps ahead we can go with Hillary (or rather, by skipping in history many steps.. and She will be anyway last women president so.. )
long live monarchic matriarchy!
2 February 2016 07:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
personal experience
2 February 2016 07:16
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's post.
No, She says.. that She knows...
2 February 2016 07:16
Margus Meigo replied to Avo-rein Tereping's comment.
...ja oleks see lihtsalt "earkond" kuid see on Kontrollitud erakond...kontrollitud erakond iidsete rahvaste hinge inflatratsiooniks, et nad omavahel tülli ja usaldamatusesse ajada ning rahvas oma enda vaimsetest liidritest ära lõigata suunates nad kaheldava väärtusega pentagrammi esoteerika ja lamestatud poliitika suunas.
See polnud piisavalt keerukas väljendamaks nende struktuuri, kes selle jaama taga kes Keske taga, kui inimesed teaksid kui ohtliku asjaga on tegu ja KUI suurelt nad ette mõtlevad, siis väriseksime juba ette ära, teades mis siit tulla võib... aga nagu noori kisub kohe sinna.. st mitte need noored, kes on liikmed, vaid muret tekitavad need kes ei ole liikmed ja ütlevad "mind ei huvita" ... sest nemad on just need keda juhitakse... see tehnoloogia pole eile, tagatoas algajate poolt kokku pandud mis neil lihtsameelses kestas küpseb... kuid uskumatult toored veel, väljendades piltselgelt oma motiive kui religioose filtri kaudu vaadata mida räägitakse. Loodetavasti keegi kolmas kõik nende varajasemad saated ja programmid kus nad plädisevad ja jahuvad on ka veel endale savestanud... sest seda mürki on ikka sellistes kogustes, et annab töödelda.. kuid vaja oleks vähemalt proovida tõestusmaterial alles hoida, tulevikude tarvis
Eestlastest on asi väga kaugel,
kuid nagu ka kommpartei lagundamiseks oli seal sees palju tarku Eesti majandajaid, nii on ka informatsioooni halduseks, mitmel eri tasandil nende võrgustikudes neid kes ennast ja enda au ohverdanud, selleks, et me saaksime jääda.
Ja ega see pole lihtne, maage jälgida... kuna maage jälgivad maagi nähtamatud sõbrad ... neid kaitstes (kuid see viimane lõik ei ole mõeldud enamuste teadvuste jaoks, sest esimest poolt ise maiselt juba annab arusaada, ilma teadvuse üle vindi minematta... sest kui üle vindiläheb, siis aju õtleb, et ignoreeri kõike mis oli seotud... suurem osa inimesi lihtsalt ei suuda tunnistada, kui mitmel tasandil neid on lollitatud, isegi siis kui nad Keskikute Vastased on, sest see nõuaks Ego maha panemist, mõistmist, kui targa vastasega tegu on.. kellel polegi plaanis ju siin sedasi haarata kohe ja praegu asju, .. piisab põhjaveemürgitamisest aegajalt ja seni ärbelda kuni vastane väsinud on ja pead sassis... ja selleks ajaks pandud saakalid iga positsioooni juurde, kes korraga hüppavad peale, senikaua kui kemplevad ERA-KONNAD (mis ka suures osas NENDE ehitatud systeem, selleks, et seda hiljem ise tagasi võtta ... ega 1918 ainult eestlastele seda süsteeemi ei kingitud...))
See polnud piisavalt keerukas väljendamaks nende struktuuri, kes selle jaama taga kes Keske taga, kui inimesed teaksid kui ohtliku asjaga on tegu ja KUI suurelt nad ette mõtlevad, siis väriseksime juba ette ära, teades mis siit tulla võib... aga nagu noori kisub kohe sinna.. st mitte need noored, kes on liikmed, vaid muret tekitavad need kes ei ole liikmed ja ütlevad "mind ei huvita" ... sest nemad on just need keda juhitakse... see tehnoloogia pole eile, tagatoas algajate poolt kokku pandud mis neil lihtsameelses kestas küpseb... kuid uskumatult toored veel, väljendades piltselgelt oma motiive kui religioose filtri kaudu vaadata mida räägitakse. Loodetavasti keegi kolmas kõik nende varajasemad saated ja programmid kus nad plädisevad ja jahuvad on ka veel endale savestanud... sest seda mürki on ikka sellistes kogustes, et annab töödelda.. kuid vaja oleks vähemalt proovida tõestusmaterial alles hoida, tulevikude tarvis
Eestlastest on asi väga kaugel,
kuid nagu ka kommpartei lagundamiseks oli seal sees palju tarku Eesti majandajaid, nii on ka informatsioooni halduseks, mitmel eri tasandil nende võrgustikudes neid kes ennast ja enda au ohverdanud, selleks, et me saaksime jääda.
Ja ega see pole lihtne, maage jälgida... kuna maage jälgivad maagi nähtamatud sõbrad ... neid kaitstes (kuid see viimane lõik ei ole mõeldud enamuste teadvuste jaoks, sest esimest poolt ise maiselt juba annab arusaada, ilma teadvuse üle vindi minematta... sest kui üle vindiläheb, siis aju õtleb, et ignoreeri kõike mis oli seotud... suurem osa inimesi lihtsalt ei suuda tunnistada, kui mitmel tasandil neid on lollitatud, isegi siis kui nad Keskikute Vastased on, sest see nõuaks Ego maha panemist, mõistmist, kui targa vastasega tegu on.. kellel polegi plaanis ju siin sedasi haarata kohe ja praegu asju, .. piisab põhjaveemürgitamisest aegajalt ja seni ärbelda kuni vastane väsinud on ja pead sassis... ja selleks ajaks pandud saakalid iga positsioooni juurde, kes korraga hüppavad peale, senikaua kui kemplevad ERA-KONNAD (mis ka suures osas NENDE ehitatud systeem, selleks, et seda hiljem ise tagasi võtta ... ega 1918 ainult eestlastele seda süsteeemi ei kingitud...))
2 February 2016 07:14
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's post.
Samamoodi on ka palvega ja miks see toimib.,. ainult siis ENAMASTI on heade olenditega tegu, kes aitavad
1 February 2016 18:16
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's post.
Muidugi Yoga läbi saad erinevaid vaime ka enda kehasse kanaldada kes ei tööta inimsoo nimel, kuid selliste asjade arusaamiseks läheb veel palju aega enne kui neid asju julgetakse uurima hakata.. ja lubatakse
(keha keemia saab yogaga teisipidi toimima panna, eri positsioonides olles, ja seeda võimalus alternatiiv teadvustes olles, olla osa muudest vaimudest kui need kes inimlaste kasuks elavad, enesetunne on muidugi enamasti hea.. kuid soltuvus võib jääda...
kuid noh, võimlemine ja meditatsiooon üldiselt muidu on ika hea...)
(keha keemia saab yogaga teisipidi toimima panna, eri positsioonides olles, ja seeda võimalus alternatiiv teadvustes olles, olla osa muudest vaimudest kui need kes inimlaste kasuks elavad, enesetunne on muidugi enamasti hea.. kuid soltuvus võib jääda...
kuid noh, võimlemine ja meditatsiooon üldiselt muidu on ika hea...)
1 February 2016 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
its not like they really need a password.. they just ask it to make you feel on control and secure
1 February 2016 17:43
Margus Meigo commented on Püha Antonius's post.
Kui muidu sõnumit inimesteni ei saa, siis sedasi peaks saama.
1 February 2016 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Kaljulaid's post.
Arvaku mida iganes, aga Clinton on ilmselge kahtluseta praegu parem valik, olgugi, et ma ise ka purusinine ja parempoolne, suht äärmuslikult ütleks mõni isegi, kuid Hillary kohe kindlalt on Sinisem kui tema. Ka nende erakonna logo ja teema värvid on sinised erinevalt punasest koos viisnurkadega mida vaene Trump kannab.
Kuigi, ärimaailmale oleks ta mõnda aega kasulik, kuni sõjani.
Lisaks on sellel naisel reaalne, tugev ja võimas kogemus valitsuse tasemel, väga pikalt, teine on ärikast bilionär kes kampaania tarvis oma ütlused viimase paari aastaga on ilma selgituseta lihtsalt ära muutnud.
Kuigi, ärimaailmale oleks ta mõnda aega kasulik, kuni sõjani.
Lisaks on sellel naisel reaalne, tugev ja võimas kogemus valitsuse tasemel, väga pikalt, teine on ärikast bilionär kes kampaania tarvis oma ütlused viimase paari aastaga on ilma selgituseta lihtsalt ära muutnud.
1 February 2016 13:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Karl Kaljulaid Ma rohkem nagu iseendale postitan siin, mu avalikud isiklikud märkmed mille seas inimestel võimalus eelnevalt vaadata. Neil kellel soovi enne arusaadavaks tegemist juba ette lugeda.
Kuid suures osas jah, need on mu märkmed töö jaoks.
Kui mulle on arusaadav, see on peamine,
küll hiljem juba tegeleme sellega, et neile kes soovivad ka arusaadavaks teha hoopis uusi asju. Siiani olnud kellel iganes soov arusaada, küsida lisa.
Peab päris hea ajuga inimene olema, et ilma instruktsioonideta kohe aru saada poolestki mida siin jagatud. Kuna me ei jaga siin kerglaseid päevauudiseid kerglastel põhjustel.
(PS: tänud märke eest, soovitus on heasuunaline nagu tajun)
Kuid suures osas jah, need on mu märkmed töö jaoks.
Kui mulle on arusaadav, see on peamine,
küll hiljem juba tegeleme sellega, et neile kes soovivad ka arusaadavaks teha hoopis uusi asju. Siiani olnud kellel iganes soov arusaada, küsida lisa.
Peab päris hea ajuga inimene olema, et ilma instruktsioonideta kohe aru saada poolestki mida siin jagatud. Kuna me ei jaga siin kerglaseid päevauudiseid kerglastel põhjustel.
(PS: tänud märke eest, soovitus on heasuunaline nagu tajun)
1 February 2016 13:49
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
Was the https://www.facebook.com/billw.gates account fake from bill gates 6 @ usa.com account ?
Sad change.
Sad change.
1 February 2016 13:35
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Ojuland's photo.
Rahval Erakondade valimisegagi raskusi, kuidas nadsiis presidendiga hakkama saaksid ?
1 February 2016 13:02
Margus Meigo commented on Enit Arusoo's photo.
Vanad head ajad.... viimased vabad veinid veel : )
1 February 2016 10:19
Margus Meigo commented on Enit Arusoo's photo.
Imeline . )
1 February 2016 10:18
Margus Meigo commented on Enit Arusoo's photo.
: ))))))))))))
(Y)
Wau, juba päris poiss!
(Y)
Wau, juba päris poiss!
1 February 2016 10:17
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's photo.
Kuid mis on tegelik?
1 February 2016 10:13
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's photo.
Nu mõtteid on mitmeid, olenevalt maailmas milles elad, reaalsuses mille läbi vaatad mis mida kuidas esindavad (ning kellele seletad).
Kuid kõige lihtsam on proovitud näidata (teda ja üldiselt) Naist kuid limiteeritud ainult sellele ühele kiskja vaimule, lihasöömise promo, liha himu imitatsioon ja noh... kui see oleks rebasenahk tal siis ütleks, et rebasenõiduse meeldetuletus ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j_AvWpho3Y )
Kuid kuna SEE vaim ja vägi SELLEL Naisel pildil endal puudub, ( vaid on pigem nagu vaimukasutatud sutsu) siis ei tule ka see metsaema annab ja võtab sümbolism nii õigesti välja kui kui võiks.
Kuigi, valgustus ja juuksekiharate kuma on kena, pildilises mõttes.
Kuid kõige lihtsam on proovitud näidata (teda ja üldiselt) Naist kuid limiteeritud ainult sellele ühele kiskja vaimule, lihasöömise promo, liha himu imitatsioon ja noh... kui see oleks rebasenahk tal siis ütleks, et rebasenõiduse meeldetuletus ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j_AvWpho3Y )
Kuid kuna SEE vaim ja vägi SELLEL Naisel pildil endal puudub, ( vaid on pigem nagu vaimukasutatud sutsu) siis ei tule ka see metsaema annab ja võtab sümbolism nii õigesti välja kui kui võiks.
Kuigi, valgustus ja juuksekiharate kuma on kena, pildilises mõttes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j_AvWpho3Y
1 February 2016 10:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
now i have to make corrrection on that good list, like kids they still wanna put in many chilldish things to feel more manly, like eating stake...seriouslly
1 February 2016 05:09
Margus Meigo replied to Carlton Lee's comment.
Yes, happens even with a best of us
1 February 2016 05:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this is pretty good, actually (in most part but they need to get rid from it ALL alcohol endorsements.. as BROs do not encurage another bro to drink alcohol, ever. Unless it is for serious medical reasons)
1 February 2016 05:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
for the ones who do wanna get any use out of that post, can read this piece of website, where they have come up with a new kind of gentelman codes, up to 184 for now: http://www.brocode.org/
http://www.brocode.org/
1 February 2016 05:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I know none of that is not really not at all relevant to he main post, but as am told, in the end of it.. will try to keep it like that
And the topic here, is not worth to have seperate post in this kind of wall, but important enought related to the backround propacanda happening behind these words, that was apropriate time to add it.. and where else.. then under a Matriarchy post :)
He ya!
(and hey, real friends do not EVER even have to worry about these kind of things.. if they are for real, they all know, how world is and how it will be made, resulting to a women-man order,
except thje new age kids who drive on digital millennium to a sexless universe with ... nothing to love but self for as long it is given to them)
And the topic here, is not worth to have seperate post in this kind of wall, but important enought related to the backround propacanda happening behind these words, that was apropriate time to add it.. and where else.. then under a Matriarchy post :)
He ya!
(and hey, real friends do not EVER even have to worry about these kind of things.. if they are for real, they all know, how world is and how it will be made, resulting to a women-man order,
except thje new age kids who drive on digital millennium to a sexless universe with ... nothing to love but self for as long it is given to them)
1 February 2016 04:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
"..If your “bros” truly felt offended you “chose” a girl over them; they probably aren’t true friends. That, or they’re just acting selfish or jealous. Either way, don’t pass up a chance with a girl, as if you owe them your time. Do you, dog.
I can think of a million reasons you should always try to please women first, as opposed to your boys, but I think just one would suffice here. YOU CAN HAVE SEX WITH WOMEN. Your boys? Not so much. Unless you prefer men, which kind of removes you from the discussion since “bros before hoes” is sort of just a given.
For the rest of us, opportunities with women are, at times, few and far between – you can’t squander them. Especially not to just sit around with your boys. Perhaps if your boy’s crib had exotic dancers and a cockfighting circuit waiting for you, then, maybe, opting for your bros over a chick would be the operative move.
We know that’s not likely though. Your friends, and most groups of post-grad friends, are boring. The “bros” route will likely lead you to his apartment, where you’ll sit around, smoke joints and play FIFA while you all talk about the girls you don’t have.
http://elitedaily.com/dating/gentlemen/fact-fiction-debunking-bros-hos/774280/
"..If your “bros” truly felt offended you “chose” a girl over them; they probably aren’t true friends. That, or they’re just acting selfish or jealous. Either way, don’t pass up a chance with a girl, as if you owe them your time. Do you, dog.
I can think of a million reasons you should always try to please women first, as opposed to your boys, but I think just one would suffice here. YOU CAN HAVE SEX WITH WOMEN. Your boys? Not so much. Unless you prefer men, which kind of removes you from the discussion since “bros before hoes” is sort of just a given.
For the rest of us, opportunities with women are, at times, few and far between – you can’t squander them. Especially not to just sit around with your boys. Perhaps if your boy’s crib had exotic dancers and a cockfighting circuit waiting for you, then, maybe, opting for your bros over a chick would be the operative move.
We know that’s not likely though. Your friends, and most groups of post-grad friends, are boring. The “bros” route will likely lead you to his apartment, where you’ll sit around, smoke joints and play FIFA while you all talk about the girls you don’t have.
http://elitedaily.com/dating/gentlemen/fact-fiction-debunking-bros-hos/774280/
http://elitedaily.com/dating/gentlemen/fact-fiction-debunking-bros-hos/774280/
1 February 2016 04:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bros+before+hoes
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bros+before+hoes
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bros+before+hoes
1 February 2016 04:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I really do like billionaires but i like pussy more,
so hos before dollars bros
or was the expression ""chicks over dicks.""
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYjkfdPMPB4
so hos before dollars bros
or was the expression ""chicks over dicks.""
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYjkfdPMPB4
1 February 2016 04:47
Margus Meigo replied to Capri Adirim's comment.
https://www.facebook.com/185996708274547/videos/506816592859222/
1 February 2016 03:43
Margus Meigo replied to Alex Jones's comment.
You just loose jour mojo Alex
https://www.facebook.com/185996708274547/videos/506816592859222/
https://www.facebook.com/185996708274547/videos/506816592859222/
1 February 2016 03:43
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's live video.
REALLY?
What is wrong with a people.. lissten that for a monent: https://www.facebook.com/185996708274547/videos/506816592859222/
What is wrong with a people.. lissten that for a monent: https://www.facebook.com/185996708274547/videos/506816592859222/
1 February 2016 03:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
No, thats a lectin, Leucoagglutinin, a phytohemagglutinin found in raw field bean.
1 February 2016 03:31
Margus Meigo commented on Anneli Kirspuu's post.
kuigi midagi oli selles loos veidrat.. kuid ikkagi, olenematta sellest, on tulemus meeldejääv.
loodetavasti kalju selle kõigega on nõus : )
loodetavasti kalju selle kõigega on nõus : )
1 February 2016 03:26
Margus Meigo commented on Anneli Kirspuu's post.
päris hea kui mehel on raha ja teeb rasked tööd ka
1 February 2016 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on Matthew Tehanu's photo.
Creative!
31 January 2016 23:10
Margus Meigo commented on Matthew Tehanu's photo.
Nice!!
31 January 2016 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on Matthew Tehanu's post.
but the world that is seperating us and a world .. they .. how will they use it..
31 January 2016 21:55
Margus Meigo commented on Matthew Tehanu's post.
Can You imagine, what a discovery..
Something that is so basic for forest people, as they have been surfing on these networks.. that are way more per tree then whole of internet, in most cases
Something that is so basic for forest people, as they have been surfing on these networks.. that are way more per tree then whole of internet, in most cases
31 January 2016 21:54
Margus Meigo commented on Gloria Foster's photo.
You look a bit like this women, oracle from a matrix . ))
31 January 2016 18:38
Margus Meigo commented on Gloria Foster's photo.
Yes, there is truth also in what he says, but that is seccondary
31 January 2016 18:38
Margus Meigo commented on Gloria Foster's photo.
if one is smoker, or addic, and gets other hooked... or is abusive huspand.. and messes up female head, then these people ARE chnaged... and when offcer comes and arrests that dude, ties up him on a tree and gives one 500 micodots of LSD.. then this person for sure is chnaged as well
As also, person will be changed when they are in love.. and so many other ways...
this meme, is common in europe as well, i suspect it is from a soviet secret service, for a new goverment they planning with aliens, so thye can come and everyone accepts that you are not allowed to chnage others.. so let them do what they want... basically
As also, person will be changed when they are in love.. and so many other ways...
this meme, is common in europe as well, i suspect it is from a soviet secret service, for a new goverment they planning with aliens, so thye can come and everyone accepts that you are not allowed to chnage others.. so let them do what they want... basically
31 January 2016 18:37
Margus Meigo commented on Gloria Foster's photo.
Well, i can : )
THis is basic of my beliefs.. as if You just chnage Yourself.. when dealing with others, then You let them to chnage You, ... and hey.. then this person did chnage You... after a time and time again..
Just the thing is there is what needs to be chnaged and things that needs not to be changed..
THis is basic of my beliefs.. as if You just chnage Yourself.. when dealing with others, then You let them to chnage You, ... and hey.. then this person did chnage You... after a time and time again..
Just the thing is there is what needs to be chnaged and things that needs not to be changed..
31 January 2016 18:34
Margus Meigo commented on Gloria Foster's post.
yes there is :)
31 January 2016 18:28
Margus Meigo commented on Kenneth Udut's photo.
okey, if i can not find a word to start with, thats probabaly as am got no feelings right now ?
31 January 2016 18:12
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
but true story.
31 January 2016 18:07
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
Terviseks!
(for a note, just in case am not returing near days:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2014%3A36%2CRomans%208%3A15%2CGalatians%204%3A6&version=CJB;OJB
(for a note, just in case am not returing near days:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2014%3A36%2CRomans%208%3A15%2CGalatians%204%3A6&version=CJB;OJB
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+14%3A36%2CRomans+8%3A15%2CGalatians+4%3A6&version=CJB%3BOJB
31 January 2016 05:44
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
man, i gotta go to sleep, i thought for a moment that this bold millita girl, AR15 and 15TH have something in common
okey, its a date, i got it.
okey.. actually now i got it ... i think
okey, its a date, i got it.
okey.. actually now i got it ... i think
31 January 2016 05:39
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
are yo userious :D
31 January 2016 05:36
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
gets better by the post
black and white humor, on blue platform
black and white humor, on blue platform
31 January 2016 05:33
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
actually most people need to learn how to breath, eat, laught, think, feel, believe, learn how to read proper slow and .. many other things we need, before AR15
But yea, i got the point . )
But yea, i got the point . )
31 January 2016 05:32
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
my figers was about to write insult combined with a near rump and a void, but then voicetold me "Margus, do not take it personally, he is dead by now, and this is just a facebook meme"
31 January 2016 05:25
Margus Meigo replied to Jim Williamson's comment.
i am pleasantly supriced my version of english and view made in to Your heart, this is great!
makes my eyes a bit wet,actually
makes my eyes a bit wet,actually
31 January 2016 05:06
Margus Meigo commented on Jim Williamson's post.
Thanks to Hitler we got something to NOT forget, if it would have been rolled out as planned in communist play books, before vegetarian relgious hitler with his twisted Marthin Luther vision come in.. then there might not have nothing to remeber right now, nor the internet like that in where to talk about
31 January 2016 04:47
Margus Meigo commented on Weird Facts's photo.
would need to see on slow mode how that knife works, on some dead skin,
i can assume it cuts in a hole in to a skin ?
i can assume it cuts in a hole in to a skin ?
31 January 2016 04:15
Margus Meigo replied to Nathan Warmack's comment.
You guys really get in to that talk do you.
anyway, i do not thnk any black op will take toiletpaper knife with them in to a field
anyway, i do not thnk any black op will take toiletpaper knife with them in to a field
31 January 2016 04:14
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Väga ilus ilus olete :))
31 January 2016 04:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or maybe even Sirotanović level
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alija_Sirotanovi%C4%87
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alija_Sirotanovi%C4%87
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alija_Sirotanovi%C4%87
31 January 2016 00:23
Margus Meigo commented on Giorgio Sortino's post.
Hard Job!
Patriots, over working hours, instead resting in hotel they work hard and sleep in work to get faster back to work, proper Stakhanovites!
( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexey_Stakhanov )
Patriots, over working hours, instead resting in hotel they work hard and sleep in work to get faster back to work, proper Stakhanovites!
( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexey_Stakhanov )
31 January 2016 00:19
Margus Meigo commented on Carlton Lee's post.
: ))
Proper strong
Proper strong
30 January 2016 21:33
Margus Meigo commented on Carlton Peter Lee's post.
: ))
30 January 2016 21:32
Margus Meigo commented on Carlton Lee's post.
You are really in to that all i can see : )
30 January 2016 21:23
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Kaasik's post.
Tuleb uurida, kes talle nii õpetas, mida ta sellega öelda tahtis ja miks. Siis alles areneme, ja AIDTA teda mitte tampida kedagi kes proovib Sinu nimel majandada.
On põhjus miks ta vabamüürlastega ei liitunud ja nüüd siis sai karistuse, mis juba kestab üle aasta ja enamgi veel
On põhjus miks ta vabamüürlastega ei liitunud ja nüüd siis sai karistuse, mis juba kestab üle aasta ja enamgi veel
30 January 2016 13:54
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Kaasik's post.
Muidugi kurb, et müürlased on punasest rooma propakandast läbi imbunud ja ise enda kodu vastu pööranud, selliselt et nad ka ülejäänud rava meelitaksid oma südamest eemalduma
30 January 2016 13:51
Margus Meigo commented on Priidik Jalas's post.
Nu kui on iha... noh mis siis teha
30 January 2016 13:26
Margus Meigo commented on Carol Iila's post.
Group: Tutvus
tundub, et mul pole piisavalt, pole veel ühtki kirja saanud,
ju siis on juba kõi kolemas mis vaja : )30 January 2016 13:21
Margus Meigo replied to Allan Saarm's comment.
Jup :)
30 January 2016 11:28
Margus Meigo commented on Valeria Mägi's post.
vahva loom :; )
30 January 2016 11:28
Margus Meigo commented on Valeria Mägi's post.
Minu arust selle pärast kes loomi süüa soovib tuelkski ravile saata
Nu vaata seda naeratust mis seal näos loomulikult on
Nu vaata seda naeratust mis seal näos loomulikult on
30 January 2016 11:27
Margus Meigo commented on Valeria Mägi's post.
Kass on ise ka kergelt tagasihoidlikult ehmunud
30 January 2016 11:26
Margus Meigo commented on Valeria Mägi's post.
What is that sorcery D
30 January 2016 11:25
Margus Meigo commented on Valeria Mägi's post.
Vähemasti healoomuline fantaasia on veel alles inimestel !
30 January 2016 11:22
Margus Meigo replied to Jüri Tuul's comment.
ära karda
Nad on nagu nii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckX-nksbPlk
Nad on nagu nii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckX-nksbPlk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckX-nksbPlk
30 January 2016 11:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi muusika ise on.. päris palju mida vaja dmb lavadele, et neid uuesti normaalsuse poole programeerida, reverceengieneerida, ning nimi oleks võinud ka olla artiklis keshava, selle järgi leiab tuubis ülesse vähemasti ühte teist
" https://soundcloud.com/keshava
" https://soundcloud.com/keshava
https://soundcloud.com/keshava
30 January 2016 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Trummid ja bassid, sekka sünti ja kaja, dub-fusioon igas tempos ja ka ilma tempota. Igatsus ja ekstaas. Magus lahusolek. Armastus. Õiglus. Vendlus."
30 January 2016 04:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Psühedeelikumides, isegi marist ei räägi üldse, "Sinu edasist loomingut on mõjutanud palju india kultuur ning spirituaalsed dimensioonid. Kuidas sa enda jaoks selle sfääri avastasid?
Pärast parajat lendu trummi ja bassi maailmas – lugematud ööd ja päevad, peod ja aftekad, suved ja talved – leidsin end mingil hetkel üsna meditatiivsest olekust. Suitsuhais oli asendunud järk-järgult viirukiga ja muusika"
.. eks see tulebtagasi, kui tuleb välja,et said läbi node viamude, taime abiliste... aga neile tänu ja au ei jaga.. siis sellele tuleb ka oma tasu...
Pärast parajat lendu trummi ja bassi maailmas – lugematud ööd ja päevad, peod ja aftekad, suved ja talved – leidsin end mingil hetkel üsna meditatiivsest olekust. Suitsuhais oli asendunud järk-järgult viirukiga ja muusika"
.. eks see tulebtagasi, kui tuleb välja,et said läbi node viamude, taime abiliste... aga neile tänu ja au ei jaga.. siis sellele tuleb ka oma tasu...
30 January 2016 04:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
väga mõttuliseks võtab
30 January 2016 04:22
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Peaksime seda oma läheste piltidega tegema ,et näha mis tulnarid neis un
30 January 2016 03:24
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Sul endal ka suits hambus viimati oli veel kui nägin, nii et ära plõxi :p
30 January 2016 03:23
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
ta peab ka endale targaTelefoni sebima,
siis sobraksse lisama.. ja siis vaatama edasi, vb saab speeddatele
siis sobraksse lisama.. ja siis vaatama edasi, vb saab speeddatele
30 January 2016 03:22
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
hahahahahaha :D
30 January 2016 03:22
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Nu jah, parem silm näitab paremaid asju kui vasak, kui ühe silmaga vaadata tundus kuid ikkagi.. suht messedup
https://assets-animated.rbl.ms/3795159/980x.gif
https://assets-animated.rbl.ms/3795159/980x.gif
https://assets-animated.rbl.ms/3795159/980x.gif
30 January 2016 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Arvatavasti tead seda teemat ammu, aga noh, seda tecy mis reaalsuse peale eksta kihi laivis panna saab reklaamiti juba bbc s ka :P http://futurism.com/videos/incredible-short-film-looks-frightening-potential-virtual-reality/
http://futurism.com/videos/incredible-short-film-looks-frightening-potential-virtual-reality/
30 January 2016 03:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
power of media can do that, with a snap of a finger!
30 January 2016 03:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
:D
30 January 2016 03:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga noh... mis lahendus?
30 January 2016 03:11
Margus Meigo commented on Sascha Alexander Schempp-Jambrosic's post.
What kind of sorcery is that : ))
30 January 2016 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on Julio Gil-Pulgar's post.
Group: Bitcoin Blockchain a Cryptor Trust Think Tank
As bitcoin is according to many bitcoing advocates on the verge of elimination, then .. why should they.. it is just some short time test tech hype for extremely small markets compared to US economy they was told.. and if they look situation right now.. they see it ti be true... according to people who say.. that 1MB limitation will not be raised..30 January 2016 01:32
Margus Meigo commented on Geir Solem's post.
Group: Bitcoin Blockchain a Cryptor Trust Think Tank
There is so much of that.. what was warned about by few long years ago... makes You wonder... is it organized or desinged30 January 2016 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on Carol Iila's post.
:D:D:D:D (Y)
30 January 2016 01:11
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's photo.
Ja nüüd ma tean : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppiv9Q5AOv8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppiv9Q5AOv8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppiv9Q5AOv8
30 January 2016 00:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Risti promov Naine : )30 January 2016 00:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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see pole erivalikus laul, esimene mis tagataustal mängis . )30 January 2016 00:54
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
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Loodan, et laulad sedasi vahest julgelt... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UTpJL1p3zk .. ja veelgi rohkem : )
ööd armas Tiivi Tibins : )
Mina vastavalt teise vaimu soovile, mänglev... kuid kuna matriarhaatlikus usuvaates, siis rohkem passive (seni kuni pole muud selgelt lubatud, soovitud), sest seks on ja jääb alati ainult Naiste õiguseks...
Aamen : )https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UTpJL1p3zk
30 January 2016 00:54
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
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jah, "jh, mida iganes"
kinnitas seda mis sai Sul öeldud eelmises lauses,
... ja see pole paha, lihtsalt on võimalik parem...30 January 2016 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
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Üldiselt maailmas agooniat valmistav on julgete Naiste puudus siin ilmas kes aru saaksid, et maailm on nende oma ja kogu planeedi-kord muudetav läbi armastuse kui nad on nõus täielikult uskuma ja hingede säilitamist tõsiselt võtma
Kuid heal juhul julgetakse vaid enda isiklikust heaolust unistada... ja siis ka läbi nende arusaamade mida võõrvõimud on ette kirjutanud30 January 2016 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
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ilmselgelt mitevastamine vastas ära, kui sa vaid teaksid, oh sind : )30 January 2016 00:49
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
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Kas Sa oled passive või active?30 January 2016 00:47
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
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Mis moodi see Sinu küsimus mu küsimusele vastust andis?30 January 2016 00:45
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
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'ei , see pole SINU flirtionship., vaid see on kuidas see on, inimesed kopeerivad teiste arusaame enda kuues
Selgitustööd ei ole vaja teha, räägi mis versiooni ja kuidas soovid, mis siin selgitada, me usklikud inimesed, asjad niigi selged30 January 2016 00:44
Margus Meigo replied to Tiivi Tibins's comment.
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Mul samas värvides pilt olemas mis Sul :D30 January 2016 00:43
Margus Meigo replied to Hardi Rebane's comment.
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selles teises suhtlusgrupis oli 20 000, arvasin, et selles30 January 2016 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
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Kuid miks seda asja jagasid, ja mida ise sellest asjast arvad siis ?30 January 2016 00:41
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
30 January 2016 00:40
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
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Oot liivi, Sa ennast letti panid... et kas soovid avalikku pakkumist , ennast lahata siin, et teised üle küsima sama ei peaks... saad nad siia vestlusesse suunata, või soovid privaatselt ?30 January 2016 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
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Vägagi normaalne ju :)30 January 2016 00:36
Margus Meigo replied to Hardi Rebane's comment.
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kuigi, ma ise ka... sama teen.. kuid noh, eks me ikka heal mõttel.. : )
Mul muidugi veel teemaks islami ja judaismi ühendmaine kristlusega.. ja lisaks teema, põhi kriitika, et Jehoova kogukond on liiga tagasihoidlik ja arg, et nagu mul see põhi kriitika oli mida eesotsale ka selgitasin tunde, kui jutuajamisele kutsuti30 January 2016 00:35
Margus Meigo replied to Hardi Rebane's comment.
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Ku isellise mõttemaailmaga, et "nendega" vaidled, asud oma vendade õdedega vaidlema, vaidlemise pärast, siis võidakse vaadata kui skisofreenikut, kes unustanud mis on piibli ja elu point30 January 2016 00:34
Margus Meigo replied to Hardi Rebane's comment.
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ei ole olemaqs "Neid" ja Sind eraldi, nemad ongi sina30 January 2016 00:33
Margus Meigo replied to Hardi Rebane's comment.
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ei ole ühtegi kohanud veel kes neist piiblit vähem kaitseks kui ajakirja30 January 2016 00:31
Margus Meigo replied to Hardi Rebane's comment.
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ükski vitt pole suvaline, kõik on Pühad30 January 2016 00:29
Margus Meigo replied to Hardi Rebane's comment.
Group: tutvus 30+
kuid kirjeldus ka abiks vahest, et sõnast aru saada30 January 2016 00:27
Margus Meigo replied to Hardi Rebane's comment.
Group: tutvus 30+
ja kui valida loe mõlemat,
need eriti pole võrreldavad rohkem kui sõnaraamat ja sõnaraamatust mõne sõna kirjeldus30 January 2016 00:27
Margus Meigo replied to Janika Pikkat's comment.
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.:.
Ja nüüd Sulle armsake.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N__gZw3DaTohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N__gZw3DaTo
30 January 2016 00:24
Margus Meigo replied to Janika Pikkat's comment.
Group: tutvus 30+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlA25tcjOcQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlA25tcjOcQ
30 January 2016 00:23
Margus Meigo replied to Janika Pikkat's comment.
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Tundud üsna elus veel30 January 2016 00:20
Margus Meigo replied to Janika Pikkat's comment.
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Kui Sul midagi on mida pihku võtta, siis mulle kõik karvane sobib30 January 2016 00:19
Margus Meigo replied to Janika Pikkat's comment.
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seda nagunii : )30 January 2016 00:19
Margus Meigo replied to Janika Pikkat's comment.
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magan jänese naha peal30 January 2016 00:19
Margus Meigo replied to Janika Pikkat's comment.
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ma ei kasuta patja30 January 2016 00:18
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
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ma pidin plõksima, põrkama natuke kellegi kallal, muidu nagu ilmelik oleks niisama filosofeerima ja õpetama tulla :D30 January 2016 00:18
Margus Meigo replied to Janika Pikkat's comment.
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padjanurk30 January 2016 00:17
Margus Meigo replied to Janika Pikkat's comment.
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Ööd,
pane pihku30 January 2016 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
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Flirdisuhetes tuleks soovitavalt enne ka ajalimiit paika panna, mis siis EI ole lühendatav, aga on pikendatav, mõlema kokkuleppel ja soovil.
oluline, et poleks lühendatav, siis turvalisus enda päris poolt ka näidata ja leppida ja..30 January 2016 00:15
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
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Asoo, Tiivi soovis sõprus flirti, kus ei flirdita kepi eesmärgil nagu rollimängu mängides jahimeest ja ohvrit kes soovib et teda püütaks.. vaid kus on mõlemal soov üksteist toetav ja lähedust hoidev isegi peale kolmandat ööd, et kus huvid on rohkemad kui kehad.. .
Ja siis sellest .. tekkis mngi .. aidake mind aeglast siin edasi ,et kus kohast ja miks siin see vaidlus tekkis mille olemasolus ma ikka veel kindel pole30 January 2016 00:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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ma pole sellel levelil vist, vaja tablad sisse võtta30 January 2016 00:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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oot ma lugesin algusest peale seda vastuolu.. ja siiani ei saa aru ikka, et mis asja.. nagu mida fakki ,et mille pärast ja kes miks millele vastu on.
Ravimiteteemast hetkeks juba sain aru aga isegi mitte sellest kuidas see siia kõik puutus30 January 2016 00:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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Sobib, ja kes on vastu ?30 January 2016 00:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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siisma tean pooli valida30 January 2016 00:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
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Viige mind kurssi, miks te nõus pole ?30 January 2016 00:05
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's photo.
.. kuigi.. kahjuks sära ja tuli silmist kadunud... võimu vaim on keegi ära võtnud kuid pilt on hea valgustuse ja mõttega
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Gert tsekka : )
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Gert tsekka : )
29 January 2016 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's photo.
Haa, seda pilti me eelmine talv vist juba kommenteerisime : )
29 January 2016 23:53
Margus Meigo commented on Edu Akadeemia's link.
Tsekka seda Gert
29 January 2016 23:52
Margus Meigo replied to Priit Koska's comment.
Group: Tutvus
ei tasu noh, ei tasu karvu ajada maha :p29 January 2016 23:50
Margus Meigo replied to Kevin Nädal's comment.
Group: Tutvus
ainuke asi mida siin tuunida vb on ülevalgustust maha võta, et kenadus veelgi enam nähtavale tuleks29 January 2016 23:50
Margus Meigo replied to Raigo Elhi's comment.
Group: Tutvus
Sa pole ju karvanegi, mis Sa räägid :p29 January 2016 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on Carol Iila's post.
Group: Tutvus
Tase, see on juba isikupära,
Õnneseensee kui mõni mees seda hinnata oskab kui sellise Elus naisega saab kohtama29 January 2016 23:48
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Harsh
29 January 2016 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Nu jah, öö muutus kohe päevaks,
valgustatud värk
valgustatud värk
29 January 2016 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
Group: tutvus 30+
kui muidugi süvatundeline flirt on siis.. siis väga meeldiv ...29 January 2016 23:46
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
Group: tutvus 30+
No, flirt is less then a friendship more often unfortunately...29 January 2016 23:45
Margus Meigo commented on Erely Johanson's post.
Group: Tutvus
Tundud huvitav neiu, kuid jään sutsu vanusepiirdest välja.. seega saan ainult ilusat edu soovida :)29 January 2016 23:44
Margus Meigo commented on Valeria Mägi's post.
Maailmaklassi ilus oled, kuigi veel ilusam oleks teada kuidas mõtled ja millest unistad
29 January 2016 23:42
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Kaasik's post.
Ansip on väga hea, teda annab üle trumbata
29 January 2016 22:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ωaffa
Softly Related:
In set theory, a field of mathematics, the Burali-Forti paradox demonstrates that naïvely constructing "the set of all ordinal numbers" leads to a contradiction and therefore shows an antinomy in a system that allows its construction.
In his work on set theory, Georg Cantor denoted the collection of all cardinal numbers by the last letter of the Hebrew alphabet, ת (transliterated as Taf, Tav, or Taw.) As Cantor realized, this collection could not itself have a cardinality, as this would lead to a paradox of the Burali-Forti type. Cantor instead said that it was an "inconsistent" collection which was absolutely infinite
Georg Cantor, defined the notion of cardinality and realized that infinite sets can have different cardinalities.
"" In hebrew keyboard scripts, third script being Arabic or Russian, due to the sizable Arabic- and Russian-speaking populations in Israel. ""
(With all the sircle in here, addition to the post in notes about isreal political parties, there is enought small parts to try to keep eyes in some important spots related to it all)
Softly Related:
In set theory, a field of mathematics, the Burali-Forti paradox demonstrates that naïvely constructing "the set of all ordinal numbers" leads to a contradiction and therefore shows an antinomy in a system that allows its construction.
In his work on set theory, Georg Cantor denoted the collection of all cardinal numbers by the last letter of the Hebrew alphabet, ת (transliterated as Taf, Tav, or Taw.) As Cantor realized, this collection could not itself have a cardinality, as this would lead to a paradox of the Burali-Forti type. Cantor instead said that it was an "inconsistent" collection which was absolutely infinite
Georg Cantor, defined the notion of cardinality and realized that infinite sets can have different cardinalities.
"" In hebrew keyboard scripts, third script being Arabic or Russian, due to the sizable Arabic- and Russian-speaking populations in Israel. ""
(With all the sircle in here, addition to the post in notes about isreal political parties, there is enought small parts to try to keep eyes in some important spots related to it all)
29 January 2016 05:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In writing and typography, a ligature occurs where two or more graphemes or letters are joined as a single glyph. The common ampersand (&) developed from a ligature in which the handwritten Latin letters e and t (spelling et, meaning "and") were combined
(Sumers are no strangers to Estonians)
"At the origin of typographical ligatures is the simple running together of letters in manuscripts. Already the earliest known script, Sumerian cuneiform, includes many cases of character combinations that over the script's history gradually evolve from a ligature into an independent character in its own right.
Ligatures figure prominently in many historical scripts, notably the Brahmic abugidas, or the bind rune of the Migration Period Germanic runic inscriptions."
(ET common Estonian word and Symbol of our language)
"Like many other ligatures, it has at times been considered a letter (e.g., in early Modern English); in English it is pronounced "and", not "et", except in the case of &c, pronounced "et cetera". In most fonts, it does not immediately resemble the two letters used to form it, although certain typefaces (such as Trebuchet MS) use the design & in the form of a ligature."
(In Estonian: JNE, Ja Nii-Edasi. And So-On. ET - used as "JA" (AND) )
"Like many other ligatures, it has at times been considered a letter (e.g., in early Modern English); in English it is pronounced "and", not "et", except in the case of &c, pronounced "et cetera". Et means "and"; cētera means "the rest". "
Estonians and the rest... :)
singular plural
first person en emme (mother in Estonian)
second person et ette (to front in Estonian)
third person ei eivät (in Finnish, He eivät näe. (They do not see.)) ("ei" in Estonian "No")
(Ordu also Estonian word)
"Although the word Urdu itself is derived from the Turkic word ordu (army) or orda, from which English horde is also derived,[19] Turkish borrowings in Urdu are minimal. Urdu words originating from Turkish and Arabic were borrowed through Persian and hence are Persianized versions of the original words. For instance, the Arabic ta' marbuta ( ة ) changes to he ( ه ) or te ( ت ) " Smile Smile :)
"Urdu (one of the main languages of South Asia), which uses a calligraphic version of the Arabic-based Nasta`liq script, requires a great number of ligatures in digital typography. InPage, a widely used desktop publishing tool for Urdu, uses Nasta`liq fonts with over 20,000 ligatures." Whou!
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b3/Proto-Canaanite_-_tof.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Early_Aramaic_character_-_tof.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taw (ET / T letter)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Etlig.svg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EA%9C%B4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_alphabet
(Sumers are no strangers to Estonians)
"At the origin of typographical ligatures is the simple running together of letters in manuscripts. Already the earliest known script, Sumerian cuneiform, includes many cases of character combinations that over the script's history gradually evolve from a ligature into an independent character in its own right.
Ligatures figure prominently in many historical scripts, notably the Brahmic abugidas, or the bind rune of the Migration Period Germanic runic inscriptions."
(ET common Estonian word and Symbol of our language)
"Like many other ligatures, it has at times been considered a letter (e.g., in early Modern English); in English it is pronounced "and", not "et", except in the case of &c, pronounced "et cetera". In most fonts, it does not immediately resemble the two letters used to form it, although certain typefaces (such as Trebuchet MS) use the design & in the form of a ligature."
(In Estonian: JNE, Ja Nii-Edasi. And So-On. ET - used as "JA" (AND) )
"Like many other ligatures, it has at times been considered a letter (e.g., in early Modern English); in English it is pronounced "and", not "et", except in the case of &c, pronounced "et cetera". Et means "and"; cētera means "the rest". "
Estonians and the rest... :)
singular plural
first person en emme (mother in Estonian)
second person et ette (to front in Estonian)
third person ei eivät (in Finnish, He eivät näe. (They do not see.)) ("ei" in Estonian "No")
(Ordu also Estonian word)
"Although the word Urdu itself is derived from the Turkic word ordu (army) or orda, from which English horde is also derived,[19] Turkish borrowings in Urdu are minimal. Urdu words originating from Turkish and Arabic were borrowed through Persian and hence are Persianized versions of the original words. For instance, the Arabic ta' marbuta ( ة ) changes to he ( ه ) or te ( ت ) " Smile Smile :)
"Urdu (one of the main languages of South Asia), which uses a calligraphic version of the Arabic-based Nasta`liq script, requires a great number of ligatures in digital typography. InPage, a widely used desktop publishing tool for Urdu, uses Nasta`liq fonts with over 20,000 ligatures." Whou!
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b3/Proto-Canaanite_-_tof.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Early_Aramaic_character_-_tof.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taw (ET / T letter)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Etlig.svg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EA%9C%B4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_alphabet
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b3/Proto-Canaanite_-_tof.png
29 January 2016 05:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuigi, mul ema selle looga veel ei nõustunud, seega tuleb seda veel tõsiselt muuta
29 January 2016 04:42
Margus Meigo commented on Valeria Mägi's post.
aaawwwwYeeeah!
29 January 2016 04:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Loo nimi on U+A734
https://codepoints.net/U+A734?lang=en
Ja päriselt see kirjutatud nii lihtsalt kui saame
https://codepoints.net/U+A734?lang=en
Ja päriselt see kirjutatud nii lihtsalt kui saame
https://codepoints.net/U+A734?lang=en
29 January 2016 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
DoeepCK just looked "someone had made my life easier, alot "
28 January 2016 20:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or perhaps it is taken from a generator and put there.. who knows
28 January 2016 20:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i mean, actually you can but..
28 January 2016 20:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Marek Prits cant make this one up,
found from DeepAK page: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYH_d7QUwAAwM1p.jpg:large
found from DeepAK page: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYH_d7QUwAAwM1p.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYH_d7QUwAAwM1p.jpg:large
28 January 2016 20:54
Margus Meigo commented on Kristi Vrep's photo.
Ära liiga kõhnaks enda ka treeni : )
28 January 2016 20:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so, if one side tells to healers: "do not help them , but only if they ask"
and other side they say "do not ask help they are no good"
then no helping in large part will happen...
and same time they go among wrong kind of people who are working on no good things.. and send them to healers ,to overload healers with a work and spirits as a weapons..
but the ones that really need.. dear women and good man.. ... once am able, will do more radical things in this part of world here... right now i by luck have a roof in winter, for a time..
and other side they say "do not ask help they are no good"
then no helping in large part will happen...
and same time they go among wrong kind of people who are working on no good things.. and send them to healers ,to overload healers with a work and spirits as a weapons..
but the ones that really need.. dear women and good man.. ... once am able, will do more radical things in this part of world here... right now i by luck have a roof in winter, for a time..
28 January 2016 14:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
the ones that keep war machines away can only do what they can do...for a time.. we must do what we can do
but also respect the robotic greek-roman mind in a way that to understand how that machine works, so we know how to heal that in large bulk,
as they like wasps that can combat all kind of attacks and attacks go every year more near to heart, more deeper... we must be able to be more radical.. and if needed, forcefully cure out spirits from a people who we know would be thankful in the end.
main philosophy they try to implement here to keep witches in prison and away from helping people is that "everyone helps them self" and "only help if someone asks" ... and same time they say to other side "do not ask" "no one cares" "there is no help but what is in a store" ..
but also respect the robotic greek-roman mind in a way that to understand how that machine works, so we know how to heal that in large bulk,
as they like wasps that can combat all kind of attacks and attacks go every year more near to heart, more deeper... we must be able to be more radical.. and if needed, forcefully cure out spirits from a people who we know would be thankful in the end.
main philosophy they try to implement here to keep witches in prison and away from helping people is that "everyone helps them self" and "only help if someone asks" ... and same time they say to other side "do not ask" "no one cares" "there is no help but what is in a store" ..
28 January 2016 14:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Alcohol and cigarettes are promoted, the porn and the violent games and useless sports.. but everyone that the Pentagram governments discover to connect with a god and good spirits are in past still treated as criminals.. but same time dark wooDoo dolls are legal to sale in witch shops and cast spells in music...
for now, one good big force we have still, is a languages .. to use that tool to get people to respect bible and to get bible to respect nature spirits and god
only sure way for masses is magic plants.. and as long the good forces are able to keep real war away, we must do our work to get them to see and prove the truth about plants
for now, one good big force we have still, is a languages .. to use that tool to get people to respect bible and to get bible to respect nature spirits and god
only sure way for masses is magic plants.. and as long the good forces are able to keep real war away, we must do our work to get them to see and prove the truth about plants
28 January 2016 14:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Yes, it makes us, old Estonians sad to see how plastic the world is going (and there is all the respect for the plastic.. just to bad the current age people, have no respect for plastic or for them self )
28 January 2016 14:23
Margus Meigo commented on Fco Miguel Ríos Vicente's post.
No so good news for a propaganda machine that will collect these kind of stories to eliminate rest of the shamans.
It ONLY take ONE bad mushroom trip in Netherlands to make mushroom illegal in Amsterdam (and in England, whole of Europe as it was last places..)
It was teenager who was not given mushrooms and she finally managed to get it and then jump of a bridge in deep depression in what she was , as she was part of EMO culture (hard core emotionally depressed youth). ..
so when she was killed, whole of nation mushrooms was made illegal by using Her story.
Bad side of spirits only need to be "right" once of the time, Good all the time
It ONLY take ONE bad mushroom trip in Netherlands to make mushroom illegal in Amsterdam (and in England, whole of Europe as it was last places..)
It was teenager who was not given mushrooms and she finally managed to get it and then jump of a bridge in deep depression in what she was , as she was part of EMO culture (hard core emotionally depressed youth). ..
so when she was killed, whole of nation mushrooms was made illegal by using Her story.
Bad side of spirits only need to be "right" once of the time, Good all the time
28 January 2016 13:13
Margus Meigo replied to Rumi Manto's comment.
Fco Miguel Ríos Vicente Then I have to come : )
28 January 2016 13:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
extra care with a star tho..
its still a structure..
its still a structure..
28 January 2016 11:39
Margus Meigo commented on Teresa Lebamoff Alt's photo.
Like Movie or Order of the Eastern Star
Perfect Colgate!
Just same picture from a corner of lower right to upwards, would be great also, to let the glory shine in proper high
Perfect Colgate!
Just same picture from a corner of lower right to upwards, would be great also, to let the glory shine in proper high
28 January 2016 11:38
Margus Meigo commented on Teresa Lebamoff Alt's photo.
Keep eye on the one in the middle .P
(actually spiritually speaking, also.. a bit to much energy that drives her
and can be a bit hurting to other children.. but a lot of fun for sure)
(actually spiritually speaking, also.. a bit to much energy that drives her
and can be a bit hurting to other children.. but a lot of fun for sure)
28 January 2016 11:33
Margus Meigo commented on Helle Kaasik's photo.
Mõned pildid siin on nii ilusad, et kohe ei oska midagi lisada enam aga keelel on palju mis ühku ahmima paneb
Need rahvuslikud riietused on nii ilusad ka.. :)
Need rahvuslikud riietused on nii ilusad ka.. :)
28 January 2016 11:31
Margus Meigo commented on Helle Kaasik's post.
Lenna Lenna...
28 January 2016 11:27
Margus Meigo commented on Helle Kaasik's post.
Minu oma kestab ka siiamaani : )
28 January 2016 11:26
Margus Meigo replied to Josh Rocchio's comment.
the one who is tripping in spirits
whose channels is open
sings everywhere .:.
whose channels is open
sings everywhere .:.
28 January 2016 11:26
Margus Meigo replied to Josh Rocchio's comment.
religious ones
28 January 2016 11:24
Margus Meigo replied to Josh Rocchio's comment.
language for people who see sings
28 January 2016 11:24
Margus Meigo commented on Andrej Podbevšek's post.
Estonian for sure
28 January 2016 11:24
Margus Meigo replied to Živa Kočevar's comment.
hahaha , snamp!
28 January 2016 11:23
Margus Meigo commented on Zoë Lloyd's post.
Where did You lost your beard!
28 January 2016 11:22
Margus Meigo commented on Carmen Illak's post.
Group: Reformierakonna Kristiine piirkond
aww, armas nimi : )28 January 2016 11:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
meedial on oma maagia, mile kaudu kujundatakse ja näidatakse rahvale teda nii kohemtuna kui nad suudavad.. kuigi veel palju häid mehi ja naisi teles ja meedias tööl.. siis punaste kallutus aina suuremaks ja suuremaks läheb.. TTVl lubatakse avalikut plägiseda igast teoreetikutega ja haiget nõiakunsti genereerita otseeetirs
28 January 2016 11:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
See juba omamoodi suur tase, et ta kikilipsuga mis päris lipsu narruseks tehtud.. et keeldub pika orjasümbolit kandma, sest ta erinevalt mõnest poliitikust ta kõrval teab.. kust ja miks see lipsu mõnitus meile kaela pandi
28 January 2016 11:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ilvesega siis, tüüp on lihtsalt teatud mõttes ajast ees ja rahvas ei oska kaasa liikuda piisavalt kiirelt.
Tegelasel 17 tuhat tweeti mille kadu suhelda saaks, kristlike väärtustega ringkond ja käpp sees mitmel poolel.. ning vist esimesi presidente me ajaloos, kes on proovind ja julgenud rahvariietega nii tihti ringi liikuda,
kas teised üldse, lipsuta on julgenud ?
Tegelasel 17 tuhat tweeti mille kadu suhelda saaks, kristlike väärtustega ringkond ja käpp sees mitmel poolel.. ning vist esimesi presidente me ajaloos, kes on proovind ja julgenud rahvariietega nii tihti ringi liikuda,
kas teised üldse, lipsuta on julgenud ?
28 January 2016 10:59
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Ma ei häbene öelda, et ma ise igaljuhul läheks 3 korda järjest presidendiga kohtuma, kui keskerakonna kandoomiga
28 January 2016 10:57
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's photo.
looking good
28 January 2016 10:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mina ka :p
28 January 2016 01:09
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Prits's comment.
"The Higgs boson shapes great abstract beauty" Ha aina paremaks läheb (Y)
Ma ükskord ise mõtlesin, et kui ainult võtta sõnad mis on Tõesed ja Head, ning need omavahel seosesse lasta, siis pole vahet mis tuleb sest ikka tuleb hea ja õige lause.
Kuid meid õpetatud keelt kasutama mingite x reegli tähenduste järgi...
(ses osas, et mul üks systeem oli mõeldud, mis aitab kindlaks teha millised sõnad on Head ja Õiged... vist midagi veel vaja juurde sinna, sidumiseks, liimiks, ... neutraalseid sõnu, kui neid olemas)
Et jah, on olemas Head ja Õiged sonad...
"intricate " näiteks on vale sõna Ja Õunapuu on näiteks hea sõna
Ma ükskord ise mõtlesin, et kui ainult võtta sõnad mis on Tõesed ja Head, ning need omavahel seosesse lasta, siis pole vahet mis tuleb sest ikka tuleb hea ja õige lause.
Kuid meid õpetatud keelt kasutama mingite x reegli tähenduste järgi...
(ses osas, et mul üks systeem oli mõeldud, mis aitab kindlaks teha millised sõnad on Head ja Õiged... vist midagi veel vaja juurde sinna, sidumiseks, liimiks, ... neutraalseid sõnu, kui neid olemas)
Et jah, on olemas Head ja Õiged sonad...
"intricate " näiteks on vale sõna Ja Õunapuu on näiteks hea sõna
27 January 2016 10:55
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Prits's comment.
"The mind is inherent in immortal phenomena" :D
Okey Okey Got it :D
Päris hea
Okey Okey Got it :D
Päris hea
27 January 2016 10:51
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Prits's comment.
"The world is a reflection of humble life"
27 January 2016 10:51
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Prits's comment.
mida fakki see tähendab: ""Eternal stillness arises and subsides in intricate human observation""
27 January 2016 10:50
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Prits's comment.
Kõlab ette kahte moodi, vaatab kumba moodi on varsti : )
27 January 2016 10:49
Margus Meigo commented on Hannah Lore Toomeorg's post.
Njaa.. veider oli see, et nad ütlesid, et nad kunagi ammu mulle ütlesid, et vist eriti neid seeni ei söögi maja ees ... : )
27 January 2016 07:48
Margus Meigo commented on Hannah Lore Toomeorg's post.
Ammu rääkinud, et sport on kurjast : )
27 January 2016 07:46
Margus Meigo commented on Hannah Lore Toomeorg's post.
Nu jah, hakkame vaikselt piiblile lähemale jõudma.. kuid sutsu veel minna.. sest kui seda unustad, et vaimses maailmas ka paljud muud tegelased, siis oleme veelgi suurema õnnetuse ees ja ringiga tagasi Rooma jms (NK Liit) languse juures... sellepärast meist kivisüdamed loodigi, et siis ei saaks pahad ligi, nii palju...... kuni toibume ja harime ennast maailma osas... tugevndame kollide osas filmide jms läbi... ja võlukunsti osas teaduste läbi... noh, head ka ikka selles konditsioonis milles oleme..
27 January 2016 07:46
Margus Meigo commented on Hannah Lore Toomeorg's post.
Millised 3 aastat Su lemmikud paremuse järjekorras? Vaatan uuesti üle siis lisan ka .. .:)
27 January 2016 07:42
Margus Meigo commented on Hannah Lore Toomeorg's post.
75 oli tööstus riietes ja 2015 katkistes tööstusriietes, need muidu jah kõikse lahjemad olid. (muidugi see juukselaki ajastu ka..)
Mitte, et me pükste vastu oleks... need naiste leiutised nagunii, mehed olevat seeliku kandjad alguses olnud.. : )
Mitte, et me pükste vastu oleks... need naiste leiutised nagunii, mehed olevat seeliku kandjad alguses olnud.. : )
27 January 2016 07:41
Margus Meigo commented on Imre Arakas's post.
Peaasi, et ennast ei aja, siis enamasti pole
27 January 2016 07:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Every Day new Documentary:
https://www.youtube.com/user/newatlantisline/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/newatlantisline/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/newatlantisline/videos
27 January 2016 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N__gZw3DaTo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N__gZw3DaTo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N__gZw3DaTo
26 January 2016 10:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Tutvus
Aitah inimesed kes Laigivad ja mõistavad, proovige ka ise oma sõpradele selles oas tähelepanu juhtida.
Mehed isegi ütlevat sellist asja, et "kui naisel mingid mobiiliga selfid peegliees tehtud on, siis sellised ma jätan kohe vahele, nemad päris elus ka sellised pealiskaudsemad või muidu kerglased, nõrgad"
Kuid tean, et mitmed teist tegelikult vast normaalsed, lihtsalt mõeldamatult, moe pärast kopeeritakse teiste käitumist... see on see inimeste viga ja hea omadus, et kopeeritakse käitumisi..
Kuid lihtsalt soovin, et eesti naised ikka oma ilu päriselt vähem odavamalt oskaksid näidata, näidates oma isiksust...26 January 2016 10:15
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Ja kui nad ei nõustu ,siis nad Jumala vastased ja pea maha
26 January 2016 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Mis siin ika võidelda, Sama jumal ju
ja seepärast, täpselt see pärast me teame ja meil õigus öelda, kuidas need nooremad vennad oma energiat ja taipu rakendama peaks
ja seepärast, täpselt see pärast me teame ja meil õigus öelda, kuidas need nooremad vennad oma energiat ja taipu rakendama peaks
26 January 2016 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on Olen Inimene's post.
Group: Tutvus
Jälle peegli ees mobiili selfid, vetsus ka veel.. jeerum jeerum kullakesed...
Kui kokku saad normaalse sobra või mehega siis lase endast ikka teha pilt..26 January 2016 01:04
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's photo.
Tutav tunne
26 January 2016 01:03
Margus Meigo commented on Keit Kangur's post.
True that
26 January 2016 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on Keit Kangur's post.
Tublid oleme, et sellise raha juures saame selliste hindadega tooteid müüa endale : ))
Paneb kohe naeratama ja meele head tundma. Oleme ikka osavad
Paneb kohe naeratama ja meele head tundma. Oleme ikka osavad
26 January 2016 00:52
Margus Meigo commented on Keit Kangur's post.
Kust Sa selliseid leiad :D
Mis mootoriga see aparaat muidu on, ongi loodud selleks muidu ?
Mis mootoriga see aparaat muidu on, ongi loodud selleks muidu ?
26 January 2016 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on Keit Kangur's post.
Täitsa hull vend :D
26 January 2016 00:39
Margus Meigo replied to Om Malik's comment.
Om, the Address is USSR !
26 January 2016 00:34
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
Take the seccond and third one
26 January 2016 00:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Algul kaitsevad lugusi.. ja isis lasevad armee jahimehi peale... (11 000 taotlust tuli nende küttimiseks..)
http://uudised.err.ee/v/valismaa/e4dc28b1-4d66-4288-b91a-47f86b66c99e
http://uudised.err.ee/v/valismaa/e4dc28b1-4d66-4288-b91a-47f86b66c99e
http://uudised.err.ee/v/valismaa/e4dc28b1-4d66-4288-b91a-47f86b66c99e
25 January 2016 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid päris kasulikum lugemine ka:
"Mina nii-öelda tunnen ja armastan hunte üle neljakümne aasta. Ma tean, kui targad ja ettevaatlikud loomad nad on. Ja ei ole mitte mingit kahtlust selles, et nad on sõna otseses mõttes kõige paremad ja kõige pädevamad metsasanitarid. Ja nad teevad seda tööd hiilgavalt.
Ja kui me võtame veel arvesse, et vegetatsiooniperioodil (kevadest sügiseni) toituvad hundid põhiliselt närilistest, siis on õnnistatud see metsamassiiv, kus elavad hundid.
Mis puutub aga lammastesse, siis ükski normaalne kiskja ei vali saaklooma nii, nagu korraliku püssiga jahimees – kõige suuremat ja kõige ilusamat.
Huntide saagiks on haiged, vanad loomad ja hooletusse jäetud noored loomad ning muidugi pisinärilised.
Nii et jah, ma olen huntide poolt. Aga koerhunt – see on hoopis teine asi."
http://www.saartehaal.ee/2012/06/09/aleksei-turovski-kevadised-tapatalgud-pole-huntidele-omased/
"Mina nii-öelda tunnen ja armastan hunte üle neljakümne aasta. Ma tean, kui targad ja ettevaatlikud loomad nad on. Ja ei ole mitte mingit kahtlust selles, et nad on sõna otseses mõttes kõige paremad ja kõige pädevamad metsasanitarid. Ja nad teevad seda tööd hiilgavalt.
Ja kui me võtame veel arvesse, et vegetatsiooniperioodil (kevadest sügiseni) toituvad hundid põhiliselt närilistest, siis on õnnistatud see metsamassiiv, kus elavad hundid.
Mis puutub aga lammastesse, siis ükski normaalne kiskja ei vali saaklooma nii, nagu korraliku püssiga jahimees – kõige suuremat ja kõige ilusamat.
Huntide saagiks on haiged, vanad loomad ja hooletusse jäetud noored loomad ning muidugi pisinärilised.
Nii et jah, ma olen huntide poolt. Aga koerhunt – see on hoopis teine asi."
http://www.saartehaal.ee/2012/06/09/aleksei-turovski-kevadised-tapatalgud-pole-huntidele-omased/
http://www.saartehaal.ee/2012/06/09/aleksei-turovski-kevadised-tapatalgud-pole-huntidele-omased/
25 January 2016 12:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Näe, inimhundid ka otsa leiavad
http://elu24.postimees.ee/3422159/uks-wall-streeti-huntidest-leiti-surnuna
http://elu24.postimees.ee/3422159/uks-wall-streeti-huntidest-leiti-surnuna
http://elu24.postimees.ee/3422159/uks-wall-streeti-huntidest-leiti-surnuna
25 January 2016 11:36
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Palmer's comment.
Is Tom still in freedom ?
Kind of Quiet..
Kind of Quiet..
25 January 2016 11:18
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Palmer's comment.
There is things we know and things we are allowed to do something about, same way in all other agencies that obey Earth Roman laws...
25 January 2016 11:16
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Palmer's comment.
We would be strongly disappointed on their capability if they would not know.
25 January 2016 11:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Irw https://www.facebook.com/dublinsq102/photos/a.361791019903.154794.216559789903/10153758120084904/?type=3&theater
25 January 2016 09:51
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Metsik's photo.
Vau kus on nimi :))
24 January 2016 22:49
Margus Meigo commented on Imre Arakas's post.
USA suur maa, talle mahub,
tasakaalustab mehiko ja hispaania kraadesi ka
tasakaalustab mehiko ja hispaania kraadesi ka
24 January 2016 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on Lootus Maran's photo.
Oled tallinna ligi?
24 January 2016 22:45
Margus Meigo commented on Jaan Tammsalu's photo.
Mul kübara periood käis läbi juba varem
http://www.rate.ee/show.php?id=15490413
http://www.rate.ee/show.php?id=15490413
http://www.rate.ee/show.php?id=15490413
24 January 2016 22:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLJrLpfiZPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLJrLpfiZPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLJrLpfiZPU
24 January 2016 22:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
,;, Keda teame : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_laImqBwrY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_laImqBwrY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_laImqBwrY
24 January 2016 22:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br7MiZ3N3Vk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br7MiZ3N3Vk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br7MiZ3N3Vk
24 January 2016 22:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__6Ok3Tn1gY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__6Ok3Tn1gY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__6Ok3Tn1gY
24 January 2016 22:00
Margus Meigo replied to Kerstin Uibos's comment.
Tere Tere : )
24 January 2016 21:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7P16rP8C5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7P16rP8C5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7P16rP8C5M
24 January 2016 21:37
Margus Meigo commented on Paul Sonnenholzner's photo.
Newer wear a longer tie then that : ))
Keep Her smile
Keep Her smile
24 January 2016 14:40
Margus Meigo replied to Linnar Priimägi's comment.
Margo Mitt selle nukra tõsiasja tarvis kindlasti paar head lugu kogutud
(ka sellest, kuidas Hundi vaimsuse likvideerimisega, igast limaste meeltega ollused meil siin oleskleda ja iimeldada saavad)
iimeldamise sõna osas pean veel mõtlema, sõnatehnoloogina, et kas on veel paremat sõna siia paigutada, ju Sa seda isetea
(ka sellest, kuidas Hundi vaimsuse likvideerimisega, igast limaste meeltega ollused meil siin oleskleda ja iimeldada saavad)
iimeldamise sõna osas pean veel mõtlema, sõnatehnoloogina, et kas on veel paremat sõna siia paigutada, ju Sa seda isetea
24 January 2016 14:28
Margus Meigo replied to Linnar Priimägi's comment.
Vast sellepärast, et see "rahvas" ei ole sadulat ega siga oma käega katsunud,
kui siis vorstipoes ehk on veel seaga väike kokkupuude olnud ja katkulorilugude najal, rääkides targalt kuidas katkus sead on mureks (sh. inimsead) ning siis kiidavad heaks mahanottida lõbustusspordiga pooled nendest pooltest huntidest mis veel järgi jäänud eelmisest tapatalust, vot Sul Eestlasi
kui siis vorstipoes ehk on veel seaga väike kokkupuude olnud ja katkulorilugude najal, rääkides targalt kuidas katkus sead on mureks (sh. inimsead) ning siis kiidavad heaks mahanottida lõbustusspordiga pooled nendest pooltest huntidest mis veel järgi jäänud eelmisest tapatalust, vot Sul Eestlasi
24 January 2016 14:24
Margus Meigo replied to Linnar Priimägi's comment.
Kuidas siis Lauri soovitatud Sinu enda sinna listi panemise osas kommenteerid?
Kikiline lips on tavalipsu narrimiseks (orjalipsust väljavabandamiseks) ja kingipaki ilustamiseks. Kuid ka see kekutuslik ilu ja arglik vabandus tuleb lõpetada. Päris riideid kandma hakata on vaja, kui keegi päriselt Eesti enamuste südamete soove pikas plaanis soovib heaks kiita,.
See nõue kõlab odavalt, teisejärgulisena mitmetele udusilmadele, kuid kes teab see teab, miks
Kikiline lips on tavalipsu narrimiseks (orjalipsust väljavabandamiseks) ja kingipaki ilustamiseks. Kuid ka see kekutuslik ilu ja arglik vabandus tuleb lõpetada. Päris riideid kandma hakata on vaja, kui keegi päriselt Eesti enamuste südamete soove pikas plaanis soovib heaks kiita,.
See nõue kõlab odavalt, teisejärgulisena mitmetele udusilmadele, kuid kes teab see teab, miks
24 January 2016 14:07
Margus Meigo replied to Linnar Priimägi's comment.
Linnar Priimägi :D
24 January 2016 13:59
Margus Meigo replied to Linnar Priimägi's comment.
Teatud osas on Ilves sellest listist kõige Eestlasem,
sest ta ainuke kes julges ilma pika lipsuta kogu ametiaja vastu pidada, millised iganes nõuded talle peale pandi,
Muidugi peaksime Meri arusaama suunas liikuma, kus ta soovitas meil Šhamaaani maailmakäsitluse suunas areneda juba ajal kus sellest rääkimine polnud ammugi sobilik
sest ta ainuke kes julges ilma pika lipsuta kogu ametiaja vastu pidada, millised iganes nõuded talle peale pandi,
Muidugi peaksime Meri arusaama suunas liikuma, kus ta soovitas meil Šhamaaani maailmakäsitluse suunas areneda juba ajal kus sellest rääkimine polnud ammugi sobilik
24 January 2016 13:57
Margus Meigo replied to Linnar Priimägi's comment.
Loodame Kallase peale, kuid kui vaimselt piisavalt ärganud praegu veel pole siis 2020 neks peaks juba küll
24 January 2016 13:56
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Untitled 13
kuidas seda mõtet peast kustutada
kuidas seda mõtet peast kustutada
24 January 2016 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Aga kas selline asi isegi kolbab lugemist... samas aga mul video kus see... sojaväe minister neil kaks poissi kaelas purjus peaga baaris ärple kuidas nad atmosfööri saavad muuta kukutamaks USA raketid alla kui nad liialt hüppavad ja veel hunnik solvanguid.. kuid noh, poisid olid vb lihtsalt sobrad kelle ümber ta käsi hoida soovis nagu semud vms..
24 January 2016 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Seni kuni korda saame, arusaama24 January 2016 02:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Some Christian one as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f588kk_VMHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f588kk_VMHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f588kk_VMHA
24 January 2016 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9c7WAL_cvI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9c7WAL_cvI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9c7WAL_cvI
24 January 2016 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Sobilikku piiblikohta, sellekohta?24 January 2016 01:51
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Kaasik's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kuigi, kas süda on "mis" vot seda veel peab tunnetama..24 January 2016 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Kaasik's post.
Group: Kristlased
See mis minul on24 January 2016 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Urb's post.
Group: Kristlased
Oluline on arusaada, et jumal on naisepoolne
ja mees on potensiaal mida nad koos naisega kasvatavad, proovides võimalust anda,
naine aga õpib õhust24 January 2016 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Urb's post.
Group: Kristlased
Oluline on, et tänapäeva maailmas see tõlgendus väga homulikult ei kõlaks,
et millise kogukonna ja tegijate sulest see peigmehe jutt täpselt tuli. Kas nende liinist keda Jeesus ise ka punase kandjateks nimetanud..24 January 2016 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
Oi Oi.. proovisin midagi kirjutada ja .. aga enda väsimuse oleks ja mõttelõnga lõppemine.. ei aidanud sõnu selgemini seada.. kuid igaks juhuks postitan ikkagi, ehk on mõni lause mida vaja ikagi oli, kuna need Su suunas olid mõeldud ja ka teiste lugejate aitamiseks
ehk siis:
"..Suuna kõik see armastuse energia lapsesse... ja samal ajal viusaliseeri ka rünnakuall olevasse piirkonda ja kujuta ette seal ebavajaliku tagasihoidlikku taandumist , tagasivõtmist...
sedasi nii tihti mõttes kui saad ja samal ajal saates kiiri, signaale muudele abimeestele,...rahulikuks jäädes ja hoolivalt muretuks kui võimalik... kuid üli oluline oli ka füüsilise ilmamaa inimste abi siia taha tuua
ning kunagi ärge küsige "Jumal, KUI Sa olemas oled siis..." või "Kui sa kuuled siis..." vaid suhelge otse, suunake ja paluge olles ette tänulikud millega iganes mida me silmad näevad... sest siis saab olema parem ku isee mis võiks olla mida me õnneks ei pea teadma
Vaid arvestada, et tehakse seda mida võimalik ja vajalik, ja elusuundasi muudetakse nendes kohtades kus saadakse, siis kui ise seda suunda mitme õigesti tundmise koosmõjul saab muuta kuhu edasi vaja. /?/
usun, et keda armastatakse ei saagi kunagi päriselt kaduda.
Kuid jah.võlukunstiga on sedasi.../ "
ehk siis:
"..Suuna kõik see armastuse energia lapsesse... ja samal ajal viusaliseeri ka rünnakuall olevasse piirkonda ja kujuta ette seal ebavajaliku tagasihoidlikku taandumist , tagasivõtmist...
sedasi nii tihti mõttes kui saad ja samal ajal saates kiiri, signaale muudele abimeestele,...rahulikuks jäädes ja hoolivalt muretuks kui võimalik... kuid üli oluline oli ka füüsilise ilmamaa inimste abi siia taha tuua
ning kunagi ärge küsige "Jumal, KUI Sa olemas oled siis..." või "Kui sa kuuled siis..." vaid suhelge otse, suunake ja paluge olles ette tänulikud millega iganes mida me silmad näevad... sest siis saab olema parem ku isee mis võiks olla mida me õnneks ei pea teadma
Vaid arvestada, et tehakse seda mida võimalik ja vajalik, ja elusuundasi muudetakse nendes kohtades kus saadakse, siis kui ise seda suunda mitme õigesti tundmise koosmõjul saab muuta kuhu edasi vaja. /?/
usun, et keda armastatakse ei saagi kunagi päriselt kaduda.
Kuid jah.võlukunstiga on sedasi.../ "
23 January 2016 15:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja kui iganes veider See ka tunduks, siia sobib see väga hästi otsa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZjPHRS1U0M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZjPHRS1U0M
23 January 2016 05:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Paar sona hundi loomsest beebilõusta silme tunnetuse läbi https://vimeo.com/8343595
hunt muidugi on tglt tundlik
hunt muidugi on tglt tundlik
https://vimeo.com/8343595
23 January 2016 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Sirge's post.
Asoo.
"Ei usu, see propakanda" :D ...sellepõhjal kui hästi need inimestele mõjuvad nagu et loomadele anda..
"Ei usu, see propakanda" :D ...sellepõhjal kui hästi need inimestele mõjuvad nagu et loomadele anda..
22 January 2016 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eile veel see video ilmus otsingust välja ,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_laImqBwrY täna enam ei ilmunud... (lisaks veel nii YT kui Browseri otsitulemused olid haistunud) ..kuid noh, see selleks
Uibo kanalis muud head ka
Uibo kanalis muud head ka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_laImqBwrY
22 January 2016 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Saadan veel jahimeeste ja veel paarile liidule ka selgituse, miks me neile okka jalga saadame
22 January 2016 16:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tean, kogun need kokku ja suunan edasi, kohe kui oma taimedele ligi saan. Tean selle asja tagajärgi, kuid siin peab korra riski maha jätma, mina jään elama, kasutan oma privileege, kuid kui see võtab natukenegi tuld, selle osas kelle vaja, siis on mu enda vaev mis saan seda väärt
22 January 2016 16:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Esimese maailmasõja ajalt on kuulujutt kus hunt olevat näljas olles inimest rünnanud, kuid kas kellegil on miskeid varasemaid andmeid, reaalseid, kuidas hunt inimest ohustab peale inimese ahnuse peale surudes?
(inimese, kes on loodud taimi süüa.. kes SAAME hakkama teravilja, puuvilja, tamede, juurviljade ja muu leiutatud toidu söömisega...mida me poed täis, tapame hunti sest ta "meie" liha sööb... või et nagu "ohustab" teisi liike... ja samas iroonia ongi, et need jahimehed on peaaegu ainukesed, kes neid muid loomi talvel toidavad peale mõne iidse perekonnapuu kes alles jäänud. Hästi hoolime kitsedest ja kellest veel aga siis heameelega sööme nende liha ja neile endale talvel kui neil süüa pole, siis teist keegi neile süüa ei vii.. küll aga ... ah... mis selles...)
(inimese, kes on loodud taimi süüa.. kes SAAME hakkama teravilja, puuvilja, tamede, juurviljade ja muu leiutatud toidu söömisega...mida me poed täis, tapame hunti sest ta "meie" liha sööb... või et nagu "ohustab" teisi liike... ja samas iroonia ongi, et need jahimehed on peaaegu ainukesed, kes neid muid loomi talvel toidavad peale mõne iidse perekonnapuu kes alles jäänud. Hästi hoolime kitsedest ja kellest veel aga siis heameelega sööme nende liha ja neile endale talvel kui neil süüa pole, siis teist keegi neile süüa ei vii.. küll aga ... ah... mis selles...)
22 January 2016 14:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vihjeid Kristlikust, Ristiusulisest, Õigeusklikutest tarkustest veel:
See paik, sinna oli vaid üksainus tee.
Inimsilmale varjatud tee.
Sinna sala viis märkide keel
ja see keel oli tundmatu keel.
Sinna oligi kassike teel,
sest süda tal nõidumist ootas veel.
Ja ärevil meel, märkas liblikat väikest.
Ja nii siis kassike küsiski teed,
endal süda põksumas sees.
Palus liblikat lendamaks ees,
et nii jõuaks varem.
"Sa lenda kiirelt! Küll ma valin tee.
Nii vist olekski parem.
Jaa, seda mängu ma mäletan veel.
Ma olen mänginud varem."
Ja aeg lendas kiirelt sel teel.
Ja kui kuldseks sai valitud tee,
ütles süda midagi veel.
Nõnda värises sees.
Kas tõesti on keegi seal veel,
kes lummatud hingega leidis tee ja
ootas nüüd ees kassikest väikest.
Ja kohale jõudes pilt avanes ees.
Ta tundis kuis süda jäi seisma tal sees.
Kesk säravat teed,
kümbles päikese käes ,lihtsalt võrratu madu.
Ja-a hellalt ta laususki kaua siis veel,
ma otsima pidin sind tundmatul teel.
Olen oodanud kaua ja rohkemgi veel,
et lihtsalt olla su madu.
Ja koit ,kui oli sillutatud ta tee,
ja hämarik ootas veel,
oli kõrvale pannud tal kee.
Mis meenutas kullatud teed,
kas oli nüüd armastus see.
Mis silmile pisarais kallas vee,
ja kaunimaks veel, sai kassike väike.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77b8A8czHDY
See paik, sinna oli vaid üksainus tee.
Inimsilmale varjatud tee.
Sinna sala viis märkide keel
ja see keel oli tundmatu keel.
Sinna oligi kassike teel,
sest süda tal nõidumist ootas veel.
Ja ärevil meel, märkas liblikat väikest.
Ja nii siis kassike küsiski teed,
endal süda põksumas sees.
Palus liblikat lendamaks ees,
et nii jõuaks varem.
"Sa lenda kiirelt! Küll ma valin tee.
Nii vist olekski parem.
Jaa, seda mängu ma mäletan veel.
Ma olen mänginud varem."
Ja aeg lendas kiirelt sel teel.
Ja kui kuldseks sai valitud tee,
ütles süda midagi veel.
Nõnda värises sees.
Kas tõesti on keegi seal veel,
kes lummatud hingega leidis tee ja
ootas nüüd ees kassikest väikest.
Ja kohale jõudes pilt avanes ees.
Ta tundis kuis süda jäi seisma tal sees.
Kesk säravat teed,
kümbles päikese käes ,lihtsalt võrratu madu.
Ja-a hellalt ta laususki kaua siis veel,
ma otsima pidin sind tundmatul teel.
Olen oodanud kaua ja rohkemgi veel,
et lihtsalt olla su madu.
Ja koit ,kui oli sillutatud ta tee,
ja hämarik ootas veel,
oli kõrvale pannud tal kee.
Mis meenutas kullatud teed,
kas oli nüüd armastus see.
Mis silmile pisarais kallas vee,
ja kaunimaks veel, sai kassike väike.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77b8A8czHDY
22 January 2016 14:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tegelikult ajab muidugi nutma see Norrra Hundi uudis, kuid kuna nuttu keegiei kuule siis proovib fokuseeritud vihaga väljendada
22 January 2016 13:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
peaksin oma aju manuaali ka lõpuni kirjutama mis sai ammu kirjutatud... kuid kahjuks algus kadus ära...
22 January 2016 03:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Suuresosas Tõde on mõnus kuulata järjest, siis mu aju ei pea ennast segama parandamisega
22 January 2016 03:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja see on seda parem, mida varem rahvad kes seal kannatavad progressi all, sellest aru saavad
ja meite liiklaste suunalistelt küsivad kuidas tõsiseks hakata.
ja meite liiklaste suunalistelt küsivad kuidas tõsiseks hakata.
22 January 2016 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tal nagu kohe üldse saksamaa ja prantsusmaa fänn pole, nagu ma olen proovinud öelda ka, et mida need vallutatud alad tootnud on, mida "väärtuseks" peetakse, on kurb nõrk n...nigel nohune sünnitus
22 January 2016 03:30
Margus Meigo commented on Nele Sillaots's post.
Wau!
22 January 2016 00:33
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
who are these weird ones on the picture tho ?
21 January 2016 17:18
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
This is .... awesome !
I Have to smoke some great fluff and read that once more,
i mean, Wou!
I Have to smoke some great fluff and read that once more,
i mean, Wou!
21 January 2016 17:18
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Nii on õige!
21 January 2016 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid nõmme raadios, mu nimekaim kutsus ülesse looma Vabatahtliku Eesti Vabariiki,
Noh, ... võib ka kuid nagu.. saaks selle sundusliku armastamisegagi hakkama õigesti (sh. ebaolulise järjepideva väljavahetamisega)
Noh, ... võib ka kuid nagu.. saaks selle sundusliku armastamisegagi hakkama õigesti (sh. ebaolulise järjepideva väljavahetamisega)
21 January 2016 12:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mitte eriti, aga natuke ikka:
"Cafe Scientifique idee algatajaks oli 1998. aastal Oxfordi Ülikooli haridusega keemik Duncan Dallas, kes on muuhulgas mitmete teadus- ja meditsiiniteemaliste telesaadete autor. Teaduskohviku loomise idee taga on veendumus, et inimesi huvitab see, kuidas teadus ja tehnoloogia nende elu muudab. Paraku jääb see informatsioon neile sageli kättesaamatuks või arusaamatuks. Cafe Scientifique üritused toimuvad vahetus ja mugavas kohvikuõhkkonnas, kus igaühel on võimalus teadusküsimustes kaasa rääkida.
Tänaseks on esimesest teaduskohvikust välja kasvanud ülemaailmne võrgustik Singapurist Buenos Aireseni. Teemade valik ulatub kliimamuutusest tehisintelligentsini, beebidisainist geneetiliselt muundatud toiduni, evolutsiooniteooriast universumifüüsikani. Iga Café Scientifique algab ühe teadlase või kirjaniku ettekandega, mis kuulajaid kergelt provotseerides loob tausta järgnevaks aruteluks.
Teaduskohvikuid Eestis korraldavad Briti Nõukogu ja Ahhaa keskus, toetab Eesti Päevaleht."
http://www.loodusajakiri.ee/horisont/uudised68.html
"Cafe Scientifique idee algatajaks oli 1998. aastal Oxfordi Ülikooli haridusega keemik Duncan Dallas, kes on muuhulgas mitmete teadus- ja meditsiiniteemaliste telesaadete autor. Teaduskohviku loomise idee taga on veendumus, et inimesi huvitab see, kuidas teadus ja tehnoloogia nende elu muudab. Paraku jääb see informatsioon neile sageli kättesaamatuks või arusaamatuks. Cafe Scientifique üritused toimuvad vahetus ja mugavas kohvikuõhkkonnas, kus igaühel on võimalus teadusküsimustes kaasa rääkida.
Tänaseks on esimesest teaduskohvikust välja kasvanud ülemaailmne võrgustik Singapurist Buenos Aireseni. Teemade valik ulatub kliimamuutusest tehisintelligentsini, beebidisainist geneetiliselt muundatud toiduni, evolutsiooniteooriast universumifüüsikani. Iga Café Scientifique algab ühe teadlase või kirjaniku ettekandega, mis kuulajaid kergelt provotseerides loob tausta järgnevaks aruteluks.
Teaduskohvikuid Eestis korraldavad Briti Nõukogu ja Ahhaa keskus, toetab Eesti Päevaleht."
http://www.loodusajakiri.ee/horisont/uudised68.html
http://www.loodusajakiri.ee/horisont/uudised68.html
21 January 2016 12:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidu niisama http://epl.delfi.ee/news/kultuur/memeetika-teadus-voi-maagia?id=50781841
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/kultuur/memeetika-teadus-voi-maagia?id=50781841
21 January 2016 12:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Samal teemal kaudselt vihjeid..
http://www.loodusajakiri.ee/ajakiri-horisont-jaab-noorte-keskkonnateadlikkuse-tostmise-nimel-toetuseta/
http://www.loodusajakiri.ee/ajakiri-horisont-jaab-noorte-keskkonnateadlikkuse-tostmise-nimel-toetuseta/
http://www.loodusajakiri.ee/ajakiri-horisont-jaab-noorte-keskkonnateadlikkuse-tostmise-nimel-toetuseta/
21 January 2016 12:00
Margus Meigo commented on Terje Krupp's post.
LSD, KANEP, Seks armastatuga?
21 January 2016 10:58
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's post.
Internet is NOT jet ready to be delivered to a sensitive people, not even ready for Western mind... it will be bad Soul crash.. if current internet will be unleashed in places with no proper guidance
21 January 2016 10:51
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's post.
What about my plan?
And.. what about, on what reason? Well, always felt Facebook got this good blue feel, ... just the pentagram is need to go
And.. what about, on what reason? Well, always felt Facebook got this good blue feel, ... just the pentagram is need to go
21 January 2016 10:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6cDx8d-3kQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6cDx8d-3kQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6cDx8d-3kQ
20 January 2016 04:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
3 pt 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjxFCC0rgAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjxFCC0rgAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjxFCC0rgAY
20 January 2016 04:12
Margus Meigo commented on Molly Evans's post.
Thats so nice, the colors !
20 January 2016 04:09
Margus Meigo commented on John Erik Metcalf's post.
to red-ish :p
(also the view of value)
(also the view of value)
20 January 2016 04:03
Margus Meigo commented on Jesse Low's photo.
Still better then http://sobadsogood.com/2016/01/17/your-beloved-barbie-goes-on-murderous-killing-spree-by-mariel-clayton/
http://sobadsogood.com/2016/01/17/your-beloved-barbie-goes-on-murderous-killing-spree-by-mariel-clayton/
20 January 2016 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on Tacitus Low's photo.
Coo l yo! :D
20 January 2016 03:58
Margus Meigo commented on Tacitus Low's link.
Lets hope She gets help, even from these numerous healers that we all hear about but when we need them.. they not much to be seen..
20 January 2016 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on Philippe C. Nicolai's post.
Makes You wonder
20 January 2016 03:56
Margus Meigo commented on Drew Olanoff's post.
NetFlix now also in Estonia, Yeey!
20 January 2016 03:49
Margus Meigo commented on Drew Olanoff's post.
As real reality is to much
20 January 2016 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on Drew Olanoff's post.
Me to , recommendation list have grown large that is plain retarded : )
20 January 2016 03:45
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
When supporting political agendas with out knowing the background we put yourself in to risk of being looked as disconnected
Also not nice to pick and choose love based on public popularity,
there is other nations suffering worst many times over, in last 20 years. Some daily, up to now.
Also not nice to pick and choose love based on public popularity,
there is other nations suffering worst many times over, in last 20 years. Some daily, up to now.
20 January 2016 03:34
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
Yes, these colors represent the agreement between god and man kind.
Just remember that : )
Just remember that : )
20 January 2016 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Confusing, uh=?
20 January 2016 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and if Tim Minchin keeps thinking "he" is still funny can light him self a fire, that might help ones con-dition... just shave hair before u barrow from that body, as no good to burn that
i am REALLY peaceful and reasonable guy,
so take that in to account please
we only remove Nations we no one can bear it any-longer, longer
i am REALLY peaceful and reasonable guy,
so take that in to account please
we only remove Nations we no one can bear it any-longer, longer
20 January 2016 03:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
20 January 2016 03:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And this, made so well that am almoust like it even thought
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U
20 January 2016 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/265895292191248385
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/265895292191248385
20 January 2016 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Not Sagan fan as on hes level man should have known more then what he told, so from there the sceptisism, but it was a long read of something that many people who apear smart praise as good read,so i share that in here, with a .. note "OKey Sagan.. even if..
https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/01/03/baloney-detection-kit-carl-sagan/
https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/01/03/baloney-detection-kit-carl-sagan/
https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/01/03/baloney-detection-kit-carl-sagan/
20 January 2016 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
"Unsurprisingly, when his tweets were mixed in with the computer-generated bullshit aphorisms, the average ratings were very similar to the first test – suggesting that randomly generated and human-made bullshit are essentially indistinguishable."
http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/acceptance-profound-sounding-bs-linked-lower-intelligence
http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/acceptance-profound-sounding-bs-linked-lower-intelligence
http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/acceptance-profound-sounding-bs-linked-lower-intelligence
20 January 2016 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
VLCiga peaks saama see kuulata. http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/ears/soundz/06HOLE/cnn_1983.ra (CNN)
http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/ears/soundz/06HOLE/cnn_1983.ra
20 January 2016 02:31
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
"Semen contaminated with sin (I wish I was making this stuff up)" http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/ears/soundz/06HOLE/sin.wav
MaaMati küsiks siis juurde, et ooot mis need muud voimalused on millest meile ei räägita...
MaaMati küsiks siis juurde, et ooot mis need muud voimalused on millest meile ei räägita...
http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/ears/soundz/06HOLE/sin.wav
20 January 2016 02:29
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Albumi nimed suht motlevad muidu.. Aurally Transmitted Diseases , Media Pollution...
Midaig Sulle ka :D http://subgeniusfoundation.bandcamp.com/track/illuminatai :D
Midaig Sulle ka :D http://subgeniusfoundation.bandcamp.com/track/illuminatai :D
http://subgeniusfoundation.bandcamp.com/track/illuminatai
20 January 2016 02:27
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
okey their stuf on üska äärepeal anna ise tead mis teema on http://subgeniusfoundation.bandcamp.com/track/sister-connie
arvestades nagu erinevaid sub tarke kellel oma mingi kiiksuga moodus asjade selgitamiseks voi avaldamiseks sombuse soo sees mida pole voimalik eriti avalikult torkida ja mis veidraid maentline eemal hoiab kuna liiga veider lihtsalt
samas.. inimesi veidrusse trikitamine ongi.. üks trikke ka millega tarku teelt eemale viiakse.. rabithole
arvestades nagu erinevaid sub tarke kellel oma mingi kiiksuga moodus asjade selgitamiseks voi avaldamiseks sombuse soo sees mida pole voimalik eriti avalikult torkida ja mis veidraid maentline eemal hoiab kuna liiga veider lihtsalt
samas.. inimesi veidrusse trikitamine ongi.. üks trikke ka millega tarku teelt eemale viiakse.. rabithole
http://subgeniusfoundation.bandcamp.com/track/sister-connie
20 January 2016 02:22
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
SubGenius Foundation is naish, https://youtu.be/Qt9MP70ODNw
Muidugi they gone a bit darkside as well, but what can u do.. kui see muidugi just pettemanööver pole varjul olemiseks .p
Muidugi they gone a bit darkside as well, but what can u do.. kui see muidugi just pettemanööver pole varjul olemiseks .p
https://youtu.be/Qt9MP70ODNw
20 January 2016 02:09
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
aga samas kui ma panin pool koomilisi vintage paljaste rindadega naise pildi The Church of the SubGeniuselt kus oli filosoofiline alatoon sellest kuidas mingid haiged teadlased klemmidega kinniseotud naise seksuaalsust uurivad,
Siis FB kustutas selle mu seinalt ära hoiatusega ,et see keelatud postitus kuna pornograafiline,
naish
Siis FB kustutas selle mu seinalt ära hoiatusega ,et see keelatud postitus kuna pornograafiline,
naish
20 January 2016 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
See pole midagi ,see veel liiga ilus ja loodusele mõtlema panev.. ning nagu üllatavalt ka VB censorile see ei loe kuna robot ei saa asjast aru.
Aga siis kui ma poliitilise tussi panin mis oli venelipu värvidesse värvitud keset ukrainat, siis oli laike vist üle saja ja jagamisi mituküment, rohkem kui ülejäänud aasta kokku :D
Aga siis kui ma poliitilise tussi panin mis oli venelipu värvidesse värvitud keset ukrainat, siis oli laike vist üle saja ja jagamisi mituküment, rohkem kui ülejäänud aasta kokku :D
20 January 2016 02:05
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
do ya vanna f the cicks
20 January 2016 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Hahahaha :D
Illuminati värk :D
Illuminati värk :D
20 January 2016 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Aaa.... et nad on natuke oma dataga mööda pannud nagu v
Nu ülikoolvärk
Nu ülikoolvärk
20 January 2016 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
in next, in playlist:
"are you from flora or from fauna? Does not matter as i am so near to the truth"
"I will not love you as only i know how that will hurt
you will not be comprehending what from me leaves inside you
and perhaps that's good"
"are you from flora or from fauna? Does not matter as i am so near to the truth"
"I will not love you as only i know how that will hurt
you will not be comprehending what from me leaves inside you
and perhaps that's good"
19 January 2016 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I will put so most simple in to the face of complicated that one have to uncomplicate one self to reveal the true core or complicate further and proving the point that simple was singing about at first place
Sleep tunes from me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N__gZw3DaTo&list=PLWCm4CSdOwV6HwsFXHe9ZuFklF9mAsFic ( Hands of The Time.... " Sleep-Sleep Little one, this is only Way Out, The Hands of The Time will newer got ya for it self inside DreamS... as i will Watch over you by belonging to the Time " Women singing to a man...
in symbolism of deep religious multi dimensional symbolism where the supreme spirit of femine-side-of-G, voluntarily imprisoned by Time-BadOne, to save out a human from deepness that human will not be able to comprehend, so that man will be cared away as a mother caring for a sleeping child, in all dimensions, with complete love ).... well will work on explanation of that.. but there is a more,
Sleep tunes from me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N__gZw3DaTo&list=PLWCm4CSdOwV6HwsFXHe9ZuFklF9mAsFic ( Hands of The Time.... " Sleep-Sleep Little one, this is only Way Out, The Hands of The Time will newer got ya for it self inside DreamS... as i will Watch over you by belonging to the Time " Women singing to a man...
in symbolism of deep religious multi dimensional symbolism where the supreme spirit of femine-side-of-G, voluntarily imprisoned by Time-BadOne, to save out a human from deepness that human will not be able to comprehend, so that man will be cared away as a mother caring for a sleeping child, in all dimensions, with complete love ).... well will work on explanation of that.. but there is a more,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N__gZw3DaTo&list=PLWCm4CSdOwV6HwsFXHe9ZuFklF9mAsFic
19 January 2016 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Same here
19 January 2016 02:47
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
19 January 2016 02:38
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
Actually, you must look it as a Clue (as it is, as superclue),
then it fits in, something that ties it in , together
but am must compose that poetry to explain that in proper, i thought to put on there kind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC3Q9q4cRZA as well, but after i saw that lead singer is putting makeup on, i got dissapointed about their realness
then it fits in, something that ties it in , together
but am must compose that poetry to explain that in proper, i thought to put on there kind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC3Q9q4cRZA as well, but after i saw that lead singer is putting makeup on, i got dissapointed about their realness
19 January 2016 02:26
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
and between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhXo-F_FcR4 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv8Sb6r3_Do (and the lyrics still matter on the last two )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhXo-F_FcR4
19 January 2016 02:25
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
(so the music will be something between this, between https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw4cZ7U-tG0 ... and )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw4cZ7U-tG0
19 January 2016 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
and from videos like that, again there is not much of the words as the video, will explain it self in many ways, deeper then most un matriarchic people can bare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_CGTb3XMCo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_CGTb3XMCo
19 January 2016 02:23
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
well, the song 2020.. from Her is that say a lot.. but in English.. the point of the point is still in this simple one as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui8gaKQ4BAw
We really do, gotta learn the secrets of flowers, one of my points as well. : )
Besides wasps and and..
We really do, gotta learn the secrets of flowers, one of my points as well. : )
Besides wasps and and..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui8gaKQ4BAw
19 January 2016 02:21
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGbhESzJNAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGbhESzJNAY
19 January 2016 02:19
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
true (Channel: illuminated Pop, for Enlightening People )
"onlything" that is missing to put a magic work is a Women, and am not sure am want even money before that
am also like to save in to history material that is similar to Katy Perry unreleased material, pop like that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrdcfwa0Ou4 .. u know.. things that are True
and meant to be for good.
"onlything" that is missing to put a magic work is a Women, and am not sure am want even money before that
am also like to save in to history material that is similar to Katy Perry unreleased material, pop like that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrdcfwa0Ou4 .. u know.. things that are True
and meant to be for good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrdcfwa0Ou4
19 January 2016 02:19
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
am must make an effort to say it better
(perhaps in the end, with small note, top of your sentence, for explenation : "with wide focus (on correct spots)" )
(perhaps in the end, with small note, top of your sentence, for explenation : "with wide focus (on correct spots)" )
19 January 2016 02:00
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
and last sentence am also meant half way another way but it sounded even better, perhaps even truer in beautiful way, in that way
19 January 2016 01:54
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
(actually meant the opposete, but sounds good so as well :D)
19 January 2016 01:52
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
and normal that need to be remembered or used, for various reasons, that help us in direction of divorcing truth from good
19 January 2016 01:51
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
The aim is to record the normal
19 January 2016 01:50
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
But i did eat all one week row of Red Mushroom, so you can understand me
19 January 2016 01:47
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
okey, the 15% i was perhaps to harsh on my self
as for some stuff i am proper sure about my self, like https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3358130828809&set=a.3358125388673.2153626.1135161043&type=3&theater
as for some stuff i am proper sure about my self, like https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3358130828809&set=a.3358125388673.2153626.1135161043&type=3&theater
19 January 2016 01:45
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
João MR. Meirinhos hahaha @ Pryapisme
it is like https://www.youtube.com/user/cyriak , with less care and more force
it is like https://www.youtube.com/user/cyriak , with less care and more force
https://www.youtube.com/user/cyriak
19 January 2016 01:42
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
19 January 2016 01:41
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
In future it would be virtual exploration between all the details in full open pc with all the explanation of the details in multiple layers and versions of explanations of same things from the point of view of the world view you choose for Yourself that all direct in to same place, some faster, some more directly..
19 January 2016 01:35
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
19 January 2016 01:33
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
actually great part of the material is still offline and it has no way put in together as something to be seen, but if i see many days, it will be, in mix with a materials from here https://www.flickr.com/photos/waffa/ and in mix with a material between my notebooks and data from many sources.. http://human.hol.es/
for now it is kind of like open source clicks actually if anyone needs any of that for them self but have some plans for my self as well..
for now it is kind of like open source clicks actually if anyone needs any of that for them self but have some plans for my self as well..
https://www.flickr.com/photos/waffa/
19 January 2016 01:29
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
But You know what You have not seen?
That
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY&list=PLsXelNZnKcxlfVqlsbiV3nTYUas3TgHjP&index=6
That
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY&list=PLsXelNZnKcxlfVqlsbiV3nTYUas3TgHjP&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY&list=PLsXelNZnKcxlfVqlsbiV3nTYUas3TgHjP&index=6
19 January 2016 01:23
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
You Awesame
19 January 2016 01:19
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
The Rubber for sure as well right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk8yhsP5hTc&list=PL91shet3Ac_I-AQWfAjfx2QwioPOYAyYt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk8yhsP5hTc&list=PL91shet3Ac_I-AQWfAjfx2QwioPOYAyYt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk8yhsP5hTc&list=PL91shet3Ac_I-AQWfAjfx2QwioPOYAyYt
19 January 2016 01:18
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5EVSFyi4fI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5EVSFyi4fI
19 January 2016 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
The one here, yes "We should cry for our-self, because we are in hell"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5EVSFyi4fI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5EVSFyi4fI
19 January 2016 01:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and a bit more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRMr4onceBQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRMr4onceBQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRMr4onceBQ
19 January 2016 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
A bit more a human
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olCPGyMkbCk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olCPGyMkbCk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olCPGyMkbCk
19 January 2016 01:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And why not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1hpicwniLs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1hpicwniLs
19 January 2016 01:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
3 part 1, much better Quality then mine actually : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtjvyQqim50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtjvyQqim50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtjvyQqim50
19 January 2016 01:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Looks like life is not easy on him from friend point of view: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M0IFSJjFiM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M0IFSJjFiM
19 January 2016 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
19 January 2016 00:54
Margus Meigo replied to João Mirage's comment.
I know what You mean
19 January 2016 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on Reed Keagle's post.
Group: We demand Donald Trump for the leader of the World
Why Would anyone list Illuminati there as that would be comparable with these small man centered structures and any way bad ?18 January 2016 23:28
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's post.
Group: Jeesuse jüngrid
Eks mulle kuluks ka sama abi ära...18 January 2016 23:24
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Jeesuse jüngrid
Mis siin ikka kaualt rõõmus olla kui arusaada tõsidusest18 January 2016 23:22
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Kõlab nagu nõukogude liit uuesti
18 January 2016 23:05
Margus Meigo replied to Silvia Reinaru's comment.
Group: Kristlased
EINAR LAIGNA, TOOMAS PAUL, VELLO SALO (Sumerite inimliikide ehitamisest, kus esimestel meestel polnud sugutamise võimet jms..)
http://r2.err.ee/v/hallokosmos/saated/a52debdf-e20d-40d4-92f0-22d921926b1b18 January 2016 21:57
Margus Meigo replied to Silvia Reinaru's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Enamus liigid on meie pool, sest nad juba ammu valmis, me alles kasvame.
Muidugi kui siin jutuajamise sees on neid kes pole inimesed ja kes ei ole kasvamas, või kes pole robotid ja pole arenemas, siis ilmselgelt see Sinu pihta ei käinud18 January 2016 21:55
Margus Meigo replied to Silvia Reinaru's comment.
Group: Kristlased
Margus Kaldaru ma ka ei soovita, kui ei tea millistega.
Kuid just selle pärast, ütlegi et tuleb arvestada18 January 2016 21:52
Margus Meigo replied to Silvia Reinaru's comment.
Group: Kristlased
pidage Tulnukaid ka meeles
arvestage Tulnukatega18 January 2016 21:49
Margus Meigo replied to Ines Pärna's comment.
Group: Kristlased
ilus on siis kui on Austus, sest Austus on ilus18 January 2016 21:48
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Liiva's comment.
Group: Kristlased
ega isa, ega ema ega loodust ega enda tegusi selliselt, et see kõigile neljale sobiks18 January 2016 21:46
Margus Meigo commented on Berit Masso's post.
ehk siis esimene
18 January 2016 21:07
Margus Meigo commented on Berit Masso's post.
armastusega
18 January 2016 21:07
Margus Meigo commented on Kari Maripuu's photo.
Wau! Me kardisõit tuli meelde kohe :p
18 January 2016 20:57
Margus Meigo commented on Imbi Niitsoo's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ega enne korda ei saa kui korda saame18 January 2016 03:06
Margus Meigo commented on Imbi Niitsoo's post.
Group: Kristlased
Eks meil ole aega veel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYDTVepKHg0&list=RD9uVFV2JWCLQ&index=5
sutsuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYDTVepKHg0&list=RD9uVFV2JWCLQ&index=5
18 January 2016 03:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eks ikka, ja kui Sul oli sünna ja soovidest midagi loeb, siis soe kalli minu poolt ka kus oma armsa nina su kenasti lohnavate juuuste vahele lükkan ja monda aega sügavalt hingan
17 January 2016 23:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
So formal
17 January 2016 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on Aiki Obermann's photo.
Sa oled ikka nii lahe ja armas Aiki : ))))
17 January 2016 22:58
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Soosaar's photo.
hahahaha, Eerik emo :D
17 January 2016 16:55
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Soosaar's photo.
aga kes pildi tegi?' Sest see ints vist ise paremal eks ?
17 January 2016 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
bitcoin might be near appropriate example (not even taking in to account if it is, just the amount of shallow not caring to look in to potential of the details before disregarding it as something that is less importance then innovation of electrisity or TV on the schoope of changes that can fallow in human behavor after addobting (or getting addobted) by some of these particular technologyes ... )
17 January 2016 12:43
Margus Meigo replied to Margus Käämer's comment.
Group: Õllesõbrad
siis küll:)17 January 2016 12:37
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Soosaar's photo.
Seda mütsi mäletan küll miskist perioodist mis Kail aga..
17 January 2016 12:34
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Soosaar's photo.
See muidu eriti hea pilt ju, kust see pärit on ?
17 January 2016 12:34
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Vahtra's post.
Group: Õllesõbrad
Nimi küll hea. "Põhjala" Hmm17 January 2016 12:15
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Vahtra's post.
Group: Õllesõbrad
mis asjad need üldse on?
Mingi väärtus neil ka on nagu MDMA või LSD-25 sarnane või muud moodi sügavamalt arendav või lõõgastav ravivalt nagu kanepi või selgendav nagu seened?
Et mis nende jookide see võlu on?17 January 2016 12:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
to think about it, it is not really intelligent, only first appears so
17 January 2016 12:12
Margus Meigo commented on Mihkel Raud's photo.
Head homset sünnipäeva :)
17 January 2016 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
nII TA ON
16 January 2016 17:36
Margus Meigo commented on Hannah Aiyana's photo.
hoo u guys!
15 January 2016 14:34
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Palmer's comment.
no that was "just" and idea that You expressed and not even Your own,
By God Human has a rights, and by religion humans are risen in highest level ever, specially Christianity that is first and most powerful human worship structure, that raised first time human value higher then semi-gods and angels
by telling, that if we rise our conspicuousness proper, then we are the ones who rule angels as this is what we was made for
this is why some angels battle against us and want to prove to others, that humans are brainless cheeps who are not worth to let in to higher places
some directly not liking us...and they have reasons also..
By God Human has a rights, and by religion humans are risen in highest level ever, specially Christianity that is first and most powerful human worship structure, that raised first time human value higher then semi-gods and angels
by telling, that if we rise our conspicuousness proper, then we are the ones who rule angels as this is what we was made for
this is why some angels battle against us and want to prove to others, that humans are brainless cheeps who are not worth to let in to higher places
some directly not liking us...and they have reasons also..
15 January 2016 11:16
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Palmer's comment.
the excising one
than Lord we still have few Queens left.. but if people keep being so retarded, this is not for long..
We should stand for Queen, anyone who dreams about ANY kind of freedom, ever.
than Lord we still have few Queens left.. but if people keep being so retarded, this is not for long..
We should stand for Queen, anyone who dreams about ANY kind of freedom, ever.
15 January 2016 11:13
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Palmer's comment.
Greek-Roman philosophy is the one that communist and terror regimes use to retard people as they lack the basic will to allow people to experience god,
15 January 2016 11:11
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Palmer's comment.
What a surprise, the colors also are marked on the sites in a way, that people would have Easy to understand what source of news supports what kind of agenda... blueblooded vs mixed hybrid terror controlled red ones.. that can use all these scientists you post before to try to control and influence masses
You Yourself also, are as near blue blood as one squatter can get when plaiyng anarchist
You Yourself also, are as near blue blood as one squatter can get when plaiyng anarchist
15 January 2016 11:10
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Palmer's comment.
this is the kind of vibe that runs CNN .. that is on the side of BLUE in a spirit: http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
15 January 2016 11:08
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Palmer's comment.
it is a BBC... when CNN reports something like that, then take it more seriously. BBC is full RED
as anti freedom as You can get without getting gought and being to obiows..
as anti freedom as You can get without getting gought and being to obiows..
15 January 2016 11:07
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Palmer's comment.
anyone with small knowledge of language and lack of morals or logic can accuse anyone with all kind of things,
and specially if it comes from RT.com.. (epic LOL) ... how often You see RT.com to publish KGB ACTUAL torture and sex torture programs? the Anti-nature, anti-plant development that has been one of the largest most funded science project in last 100 years in Russia (how to kill the nature)
and specially if it comes from RT.com.. (epic LOL) ... how often You see RT.com to publish KGB ACTUAL torture and sex torture programs? the Anti-nature, anti-plant development that has been one of the largest most funded science project in last 100 years in Russia (how to kill the nature)
http://rt.com/
15 January 2016 11:05
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Palmer's comment.
I eat social scientists like that for lunch
15 January 2016 11:02
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Palmer's comment.
tom is cool for sure
15 January 2016 11:02
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Palmer's comment.
Jason so tell me also, What do You think about skinner?
This guy who wears a tie... You agree, disagree, how, in what level?
As it is kind of hard just to comment it as am not sure on what side of the topic are You, and how does LSD, rape and spider fear fit in to hes explenation of humans behavor?
Not even starting to go in to dream tripping and true religious and spiritual experiences and seeing ghosts etc
If some theory has any worth at all then it is possible to use that to explain everything, if not... it is not jet complete.
Good example of complete knowledge is religion with infinite depth but same time self explaining in lower levels in a conflict way that is acceptable for higher levels and with strengthen the proof of most simple minded starter explanation (the bearded man and Adam and eve walking on garden... )
I eat social scientists like that for lunch
This guy who wears a tie... You agree, disagree, how, in what level?
As it is kind of hard just to comment it as am not sure on what side of the topic are You, and how does LSD, rape and spider fear fit in to hes explenation of humans behavor?
Not even starting to go in to dream tripping and true religious and spiritual experiences and seeing ghosts etc
If some theory has any worth at all then it is possible to use that to explain everything, if not... it is not jet complete.
Good example of complete knowledge is religion with infinite depth but same time self explaining in lower levels in a conflict way that is acceptable for higher levels and with strengthen the proof of most simple minded starter explanation (the bearded man and Adam and eve walking on garden... )
I eat social scientists like that for lunch
15 January 2016 11:01
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
Ime supper laps muidu teil ... ja silmad nii selgelt hallid nii hallid ! .. wau, oota kummalt need on ? :)
15 January 2016 10:25
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
sest kui naine naturaalselt ennast , lihtsalt olles, ei oska ega julge armastada, et ta pidevalt peab tegema midagi teiste järgi ja teiste moodi.. siis ta pidevalt kikivarvul ja toimetamas ja solgutatav.
Ei julge ta kohtamiselegi enne minna rahuliku enesekindla südamega enne peeglijuures ennast "endale meeldivaks" tehes... selle järgi mis ühiskond on ütlenud, et kuidas parem on... (või õigemini need kes ütlevad...)
Et see jah.. oluline lastele eriti varakult selgeks teha, sest need käitumismallid kanduvad meikimisest ka muudesse mõtlemistesse üle, mida juba keerulisem selgitada kuid kui fantaasiat on saab neid ise tunnetada ja visualiseerida
Ei julge ta kohtamiselegi enne minna rahuliku enesekindla südamega enne peeglijuures ennast "endale meeldivaks" tehes... selle järgi mis ühiskond on ütlenud, et kuidas parem on... (või õigemini need kes ütlevad...)
Et see jah.. oluline lastele eriti varakult selgeks teha, sest need käitumismallid kanduvad meikimisest ka muudesse mõtlemistesse üle, mida juba keerulisem selgitada kuid kui fantaasiat on saab neid ise tunnetada ja visualiseerida
15 January 2016 10:24
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
Oluline ka selgitada, et naturaalselt on ta kõige ilusam ja, et ühiskonnas naiste eneseväärtus on viidud tasemele kus nad maalivad ennast läbi meedia manipulatsiooni kellegiks teiseks, keda veendakse suurte rahade teenimise ja naiste kontrolli eesmärgil enda loomuliku ilu vähem märkama
15 January 2016 10:22
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Palmer's comment.
in future people who think, that their thoughts are private will get mental help (actually this planet reallity here is PART of this protsess of and help and the mess is what is happening in a hospital by crazy and cure is the process of taking action to making it better and you will be moved in another partition that is copy of all the places where you was before... and depends of action.. moving from there.. but in the end, even the lowest partitions have to get fixed, healed and fully ENLIGHTENED about what You should do in here and there after)
15 January 2016 01:00
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Palmer's comment.
yeah this is also basic
THAT Nsa KIND OF PEOPLE TRY TO TELL YOU ABOUT BY REVEALING PIECE BY PIECE WHAT KIND OF TECHNOLOGY IS USED IN MUCH MORE HIGHER LEVEL ON US ..... but who dares to care about truth when it is starting to become real, and you realize that your THOUGHTS also are open source,
this is just BASIC what ever kids "encryption" game humans care to play this is like kid putting hands on their closed eyes and declares that no one can see Her now..
THAT Nsa KIND OF PEOPLE TRY TO TELL YOU ABOUT BY REVEALING PIECE BY PIECE WHAT KIND OF TECHNOLOGY IS USED IN MUCH MORE HIGHER LEVEL ON US ..... but who dares to care about truth when it is starting to become real, and you realize that your THOUGHTS also are open source,
this is just BASIC what ever kids "encryption" game humans care to play this is like kid putting hands on their closed eyes and declares that no one can see Her now..
15 January 2016 00:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
People just make up some random relations with random organizations in their head and then they will miss all the magic and great things in life
15 January 2016 00:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
really funny
15 January 2016 00:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
hahahaha jah sure man
15 January 2016 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Jeesuse jüngrid
muidugi päris sadomasoks ka ei tasu minna, siin muidu igasugused S ja M slave boyd kes ennast alandada lasevad.. või emod kes ennast põlastavad...et muidu mõni arvab, et need eriti pühalikud olema peaks15 January 2016 00:49
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Läheb andmiseks varsti,
nagu see teise ilma mees George kes mu pool oli ütles käsi hõõrudes, siin planeedil võiks juba midagi toimuma hakata.. et maru igavaks läinud
nagu see teise ilma mees George kes mu pool oli ütles käsi hõõrudes, siin planeedil võiks juba midagi toimuma hakata.. et maru igavaks läinud
15 January 2016 00:41
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's post.
Kõlab meeldivalt
15 January 2016 00:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ku iarvestada religiooseid ja vaimu tõdesi, siis muidugi pole veider kuid noh.
14 January 2016 15:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
siis kui midagi eriti huvitavat on mis päriselt kõiki puudutab (seoses sellega millise maagia jaoks seda kasutatakse, kui edasi uurida), siis keegi ei ole huvitatud.
Väga veider kuidas inimeste peas nii peeneliselt need asjad reguleeritud, et neist asjust mööda vaadatakse ja neis asjus kaasa mõelda ei julgeta osata
Väga veider kuidas inimeste peas nii peeneliselt need asjad reguleeritud, et neist asjust mööda vaadatakse ja neis asjus kaasa mõelda ei julgeta osata
14 January 2016 15:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Selgituseks: Need siis idanevad õuna seemned ... öeldakse küll,et õunapuud seemnest ei kasvata kuid...
Jutt ja seemned alguses seotud polnud, kuid kuna samal ajal..siis mõtlesin juurde lisada : )
Jutt ja seemned alguses seotud polnud, kuid kuna samal ajal..siis mõtlesin juurde lisada : )
14 January 2016 15:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but still worth to look troughs, specially the magician parts...
to bad we missing audio what was talked next to it :p
(and to update other side of the line, know that this is made by good side, to expose other side, the reds, by fake "leaker" snowden, (who was made as a tool , to leak what was needed people to educate about to bring people awareness in higher level) by putting in simple to understand format things about opponents in to form
as it is about them self, this has few good large effects and has the safety of people not attacking back
but will be remembering the "methods" so the AIM is archived, as people now start to be more aware about content in internet and the "activists")
to bad we missing audio what was talked next to it :p
(and to update other side of the line, know that this is made by good side, to expose other side, the reds, by fake "leaker" snowden, (who was made as a tool , to leak what was needed people to educate about to bring people awareness in higher level) by putting in simple to understand format things about opponents in to form
as it is about them self, this has few good large effects and has the safety of people not attacking back
but will be remembering the "methods" so the AIM is archived, as people now start to be more aware about content in internet and the "activists")
13 January 2016 11:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140224/17054826340/new-snowden-doc-reveals-how-gchqnsa-use-internet-to-manipulate-deceive-destroy-reputations.shtml
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140224/17054826340/new-snowden-doc-reveals-how-gchqnsa-use-internet-to-manipulate-deceive-destroy-reputations.shtml
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140224/17054826340/new-snowden-doc-reveals-how-gchqnsa-use-internet-to-manipulate-deceive-destroy-reputations.shtml
13 January 2016 11:02
Margus Meigo commented on Maria Maastik's post.
Nu see nüüd küll mingi steitment pole millel tõde ja mõistust oleks
13 January 2016 10:25
Margus Meigo commented on Maria Maastik's photo.
Miks te inimesed neid telefoni selfisi selliseid kus telefonid peal küll intenreti jagate.. oeh.. need nii hingetud ju
13 January 2016 10:16
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
But as Internet is USA product basically, i guess ones have right to do with it what they want
13 January 2016 10:08
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
This is the BASIC of Soviet propaganda and tools and how they operate in the core, not as a one extra tool, but this IS THE main characteristics of soviet related actions how they operate on global scale WAY before internet already.
Nothing new here.
And Another thing they do, (this is important one to know) is blame in many different writing forms the nearest, biggest opponent and not just to destroy them but to hide their own actions.
This is really really basic, and is core working method of social weapons current Russia also uses, and we really know that as we see it old times and see it right now, 10% clear, up to now.
The bride and naivety of most USA departments does not allow these kind of operations, and for sure NSA does not need to do that in any other way then using the truth against real criminals.
The evil of USA is that they are to ignorant and stupid to realize that there is REAL evil, in biblical way, excising and they have been also infiltrated by it in many parts.
They also fail to realize, that the masters of pentagram have been knowingly in co operation with many non human liking beings, and also as sluts and wannabe gangs some USA University fraternity organizations (Scull and Bones is proper kid compared to the levels of bad organizations USa got there.. and them in return are still kids to the evils that pentagram masters got... who as one organization knowingly are under evil spirit, accepting it as "so we do" with no illusions about making world better )
Nothing new here.
And Another thing they do, (this is important one to know) is blame in many different writing forms the nearest, biggest opponent and not just to destroy them but to hide their own actions.
This is really really basic, and is core working method of social weapons current Russia also uses, and we really know that as we see it old times and see it right now, 10% clear, up to now.
The bride and naivety of most USA departments does not allow these kind of operations, and for sure NSA does not need to do that in any other way then using the truth against real criminals.
The evil of USA is that they are to ignorant and stupid to realize that there is REAL evil, in biblical way, excising and they have been also infiltrated by it in many parts.
They also fail to realize, that the masters of pentagram have been knowingly in co operation with many non human liking beings, and also as sluts and wannabe gangs some USA University fraternity organizations (Scull and Bones is proper kid compared to the levels of bad organizations USa got there.. and them in return are still kids to the evils that pentagram masters got... who as one organization knowingly are under evil spirit, accepting it as "so we do" with no illusions about making world better )
13 January 2016 10:08
Margus Meigo replied to Jason Palmer's comment.
This is the BASIC of Soviet propaganda and tools and how they operate in the core, not as a one extra tool, but this IS THE main characteristics of soviet related actions how they operate on global scale WAY before internet already.
Nothing new here.
And Another thing they do, (this is important one to know) is blame in many different writing forms the nearest, biggest opponent and not just to destroy them but to hide their own actions.
This is really really basic, and is core working method of social weapons current Russia also uses, and we really know that as we see it old times and see it right now, 10% clear, up to now.
The bride and naivety of most USA departments does not allow these kind of operations, and for sure NSA does not need to do that in any other way then using the truth against real criminals.
The evil of USA is that they are to ignorant and stupid to realize that there is REAL evil, in biblical way, excising and they have been also infiltrated by it in many parts.
They also fail to realize, that the masters of pentagram have been knowingly in co operation with many non human liking beings, and also as sluts and wannabe gangs some USA University fraternity organizations (Scull and Bones is proper kid compared to the levels of bad organizations USa got there.. and them in return are still kids to the evils that pentagram masters got... who as one organization knowingly are under evil spirit, accepting it as "so we do" with no illusions about making world better )
Nothing new here.
And Another thing they do, (this is important one to know) is blame in many different writing forms the nearest, biggest opponent and not just to destroy them but to hide their own actions.
This is really really basic, and is core working method of social weapons current Russia also uses, and we really know that as we see it old times and see it right now, 10% clear, up to now.
The bride and naivety of most USA departments does not allow these kind of operations, and for sure NSA does not need to do that in any other way then using the truth against real criminals.
The evil of USA is that they are to ignorant and stupid to realize that there is REAL evil, in biblical way, excising and they have been also infiltrated by it in many parts.
They also fail to realize, that the masters of pentagram have been knowingly in co operation with many non human liking beings, and also as sluts and wannabe gangs some USA University fraternity organizations (Scull and Bones is proper kid compared to the levels of bad organizations USa got there.. and them in return are still kids to the evils that pentagram masters got... who as one organization knowingly are under evil spirit, accepting it as "so we do" with no illusions about making world better )
13 January 2016 10:08
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Things that they do that make this species happy..
13 January 2016 09:23
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
aga muidu jah. päris kreepy algseid keele tähendusi vaadates ja seda kuhu keelearusaamise osas tänapäeval arenenud oleme
13 January 2016 07:19
Margus Meigo commented on Thobias William's photo.
Nice one!
13 January 2016 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on Imre Arakas's post.
Kuid jah, suuresplaanis point oige Sul,
Sest nenel on pääste taevane ilmselge, aga meestel...
Sest nenel on pääste taevane ilmselge, aga meestel...
12 January 2016 18:58
Margus Meigo commented on Imre Arakas's post.
Ja oige mees ei vii Naist kuristikku, vaid kuulab oma naist sama andunult Kui Naine teda ning opib..
12 January 2016 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
erilisused sõprused
12 January 2016 07:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Would there be market in US for him to help to collect finance for recording an album ?
12 January 2016 06:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
and here is National State main channel making in one of the most hottest time on TV promo to him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnIinJy_chI (he is all about psychedelic and mystic things)
aaight, enaght said! : )
aaight, enaght said! : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnIinJy_chI
12 January 2016 06:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Last song that our National STATE Radio is promoting ( pretty much only stations in Estonia who play music like that ) ... as these vibes he is songing about is kind of same team as original Blue Republican Estonia
(lyric is about lubricants, ancient spaceships messages and love tools )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw4cZ7U-tG0
(lyric is about lubricants, ancient spaceships messages and love tools )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw4cZ7U-tG0
12 January 2016 06:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
and here freaking out people in most notorious conservative and criminal aria of Tallinn where people at times not wanna stay at night time..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=gwzYSSWA8Vw
In our culture this is like.. really big No No on the city :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=gwzYSSWA8Vw
In our culture this is like.. really big No No on the city :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=gwzYSSWA8Vw
12 January 2016 06:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(same guy who is on that video 5-7 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf8ltRwFsnY ) "UneMati" is a mythical completely normal man being who is bringing sleep by putting sleep sand in to your eye
and these girls kind of flirting with this UneMati in two level lyrics
and these girls kind of flirting with this UneMati in two level lyrics
12 January 2016 06:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Amateur HardCore love:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAdX-9HZafE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAdX-9HZafE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAdX-9HZafE
12 January 2016 06:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"With me is that ...My life is completly in rack.. ower..
thing is that Helena got great butt but Lisa got really nice breasts and i do not know what to do..."
"...and i was thinking in the beginning that i should start to be a poet but then i thought to start doing audio-visual arts..."
" FORGET YOUR SMALL WORRIES AND PLAY JAW HARP! "
Great Danmoi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r5NWGD0z5s
thing is that Helena got great butt but Lisa got really nice breasts and i do not know what to do..."
"...and i was thinking in the beginning that i should start to be a poet but then i thought to start doing audio-visual arts..."
" FORGET YOUR SMALL WORRIES AND PLAY JAW HARP! "
Great Danmoi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r5NWGD0z5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r5NWGD0z5s
12 January 2016 06:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Simonas psychedelic legs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2ozN-qNJew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2ozN-qNJew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2ozN-qNJew
12 January 2016 06:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
From same artist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y7RDAmJGLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y7RDAmJGLw
12 January 2016 06:03
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
antidepressant.. jeerum.. ta on depresiooni eemaldaja, ravija mite antidepresaant.. sest nagu see ravimeetot on ikka HOOOPIs midaig muud kui .. ahh. mis siin jahuda
põhjus ravitakse ära, miks
põhjus ravitakse ära, miks
12 January 2016 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
jup.. selle pärase see Black Law Dictionary nagu ongi selline hard core asi.. see mida advogaadid kasutavad.. et kus sõnade päris seletused sees on
12 January 2016 04:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ainult niivähe seda mida vaja
12 January 2016 04:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eriti liiv peaks seda teadma.. me pole nii alalareneud, et me muidu hakkama eisaaks kuipiitsaga... kuid kui paremat Loojalt küsida ei mosita eks siis...
ma üksi ka kõike teha jõua
ma üksi ka kõike teha jõua
12 January 2016 04:12
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
olge ettevaatlik mida kaela kutsute endale oma soovidega
12 January 2016 04:11
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
Good one still
12 January 2016 04:10
Margus Meigo commented on Signe Püve's photo.
Wau kui timm maa koht Sul seal on kus iganes oled... loodetavasti muidugi saad kindad ja mütsi ka endale.. : )
12 January 2016 04:10
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's post.
My friend works on running world cleaning corp, will send to them
12 January 2016 02:34
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's post.
Nice . )))
12 January 2016 02:34
Margus Meigo commented on Airi Soomaa's post.
olen suur kõrv mis siin toimub :)
11 January 2016 15:06
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
kõige veidram on see, et rahavas nii hädine, et ise hakkama ei saa,
Virisevad politsei, riigi ja kiriku kallal kui need neid ei kaitse kuid siis kui elu mugav on kiruvad ise neid samu jõude taga ja teevad neil elu raskemaks meelega mitte ühiskonna paremakstegemisest osa võttes...
Täiesti müstiline liik
Virisevad politsei, riigi ja kiriku kallal kui need neid ei kaitse kuid siis kui elu mugav on kiruvad ise neid samu jõude taga ja teevad neil elu raskemaks meelega mitte ühiskonna paremakstegemisest osa võttes...
Täiesti müstiline liik
11 January 2016 14:44
Margus Meigo replied to Valerie Jean's comment.
well, in weed it is a bit opposite often, as in psychedelics we understand the higher value of potential and live in that , but in "sober" mind (that in spiritual world is rather drunk) we not understand potential we did not put in use, and are rip from the connections to understanding of what it meant, so it just looks as basic and not interesting as for other... sober mind people...
11 January 2016 07:19
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
What about these who want to have freedom to do things what we do not like?
11 January 2016 04:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Õpetame üksteist pildistama
Et need asjad nagu veel tase hullemad kui selfid mu arust.
Saan aru küll, et see tehnoloogia firmade üks menu, eriti apply cultuse poolt vist, aga inimesed lausa tutvumiskkuulutusel selliseid pilte kasutavad.
Äärmiselt veider ja suts kõhe mõelda kui ilu vabaks inimesed läinud11 January 2016 03:59
Margus Meigo commented on Terje Toomistu Cece's post.
Isist pole eriti raske moslemitel ära tunda ja maha võtta, sest võlts moslemi peaks iga moslem kiiresti ära tundma
11 January 2016 03:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nagu meil nendega midagi teha oleks,
isegi kui meile tsaari sõjavägi hobuste ja ambudega tuleks vallutama jääks vist sutsu väheks täis pealetungi osas
isegi kui meile tsaari sõjavägi hobuste ja ambudega tuleks vallutama jääks vist sutsu väheks täis pealetungi osas
11 January 2016 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on Terje Toomistu Cece's post.
muidugi kõige kõvem teema, erit ivajalik osta 15 soomuki kere 35 milioni eest, mis sõbra hind
11 January 2016 03:30
Margus Meigo commented on Chipamong Chowdhury's post.
really.. transgender going to be a game changer..
11 January 2016 03:27
Margus Meigo commented on Kristina Arus's photo.
Wau, ma peaaegu, ei tunneks äragi, miski eriti huvitava muutuse teinud, või tundub nii pildilt : )
11 January 2016 03:22
Margus Meigo commented on Laura L. Post's post.
and do not forget to send at least few hundred dollars at miinimum, in closed envelope top of everything else, it is nothing "Important" or big for Americans, but that can be really good for the family members, for charity can send top of that
people only die once you know (if you plan to send one help only, but if you plan to send many helps..then send it for long time.. shows eal respect... not just something we in these arias here despise the "caring" where one is only visited or greeted on special dates instead more intimate way for long time)
people only die once you know (if you plan to send one help only, but if you plan to send many helps..then send it for long time.. shows eal respect... not just something we in these arias here despise the "caring" where one is only visited or greeted on special dates instead more intimate way for long time)
11 January 2016 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to Rein Pae's comment.
Group: VABA SÕNA
Sest noh, Allah on Vanajumal ja kuna islam on üks jumala tööriistadest Rooma homovõimu vastu, siis siin ju kõik klapib11 January 2016 02:57
Margus Meigo replied to Rein Pae's comment.
Group: VABA SÕNA
Täitsa õiged ja ausad sõnumid ja slooganid nendel vähemalt, ja sügavamõttelised ja suured, olulised,
mitte nagu mei lsiin mingid koopiad lööklausetest mis idee vabad11 January 2016 02:56
Margus Meigo commented on Georg Liiva's post.
Group: VABA SÕNA
Need viisnurgad tuleb neil rsk lipu pealt muidugi ÄRA KORJATA ja asendada kuningliku lipuga kui nad PÄRISELT vabaks saada soovivad,11 January 2016 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to Tatjana Kodu's comment.
Group: VABA SÕNA
Merkel on hea, teda peaksid toetama, eriti kuna Sa ise ka naine ja peaksid arusaama, kui oluline ta on, igati heas mõttes ja kui raske tal on olla inimene node kiskjate keskel ning ellu jääda11 January 2016 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on Ants Gross's post.
Group: VABA SÕNA
Kuid jah, eks hitlergi oli taimetoitlane sellepärast, et se lihasöömine üks haigus ole. Kuid see suur vaev kurjadel meid liha lumuses hoida, sest seni kuni sööme on neil jõudu ja jaksu meiega tegeleda sest siis lõikame endalt palju häid sõpru ja kaitseid maha lisaks ise enda oksa saagimisele millel oleme11 January 2016 02:44
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Gross's comment.
Group: VABA SÕNA
mis Sa selle alla mõtled, selgita lähemalt11 January 2016 02:43
Margus Meigo replied to Ants Gross's comment.
Group: VABA SÕNA
Juudid on head, võltsjuudid kes oma habe maha nühivad aga väga kahtlase ja väga pahade punaste vahepeal.
Punaste ehk greeka-roomlaste, tähe tulnukate, luciferi sõprade üks peamine misjooon on juute ja ka eestlasi likvideerida, aga eriti juute,sest nende olemasolust maailm teab.. meiega veel aega ja me ise minemas ka juba...11 January 2016 02:42
Margus Meigo replied to Helgar Käro's comment.
Group: VABA SÕNA
Kert kander või kes see pedofiili kirjanduse sandri eestis õitsepanija oli... tuleb paneb selle pildi kohe oma raamatusse, olge ettevaatlikud mis jagate :D11 January 2016 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on Reimo Sillamaa's post.
Group: VABA SÕNA
lisaks parandab see veel inimese loomuse ka ära.
Sellised peaks Päris moslemite enda kätte siis peale interviud anda koos video tõestusmaterialiga ja nad juba teavad väga hästi kuidas sellistega kiirelt toimetada, nii, et nad kunagi enam probleemi ei valmistaks.
Vangitamisega nad aega ei hakka raiskama11 January 2016 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on Reimo Sillamaa's post.
Group: VABA SÕNA
See oli muidugi organiseeritud sedasi, et nad seda teeksid.
Just sellel põhjusel,et me nii räägiks.
Kuid lisaks muidugi tuleb sellistele üritajatele special forces peale saata ja nad grupis kinni võtta, psühdeeliat täis toppida ja siis interviu teha selle kohta kellega kuidas nad koos töötavad.
Suurem osa räägib kenasti kõik ära kui inimene kes oskab aru saada kuidas psühedeelia toimib õigesti projeti läbi viib11 January 2016 02:34
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
:D
Xd
Xd
11 January 2016 02:17
Margus Meigo commented on Zandra Arguelles's photo.
: )))
11 January 2016 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Hallik's post.
Group: Õpetame üksteist pildistama
väga hea!11 January 2016 01:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L_xnxltRMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L_xnxltRMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L_xnxltRMo
10 January 2016 14:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja muidugi, jäi veel linkimatta: Wu Tan Clan (kunagi siin arvati, et see üks "bänd" kes kunagi eetris oli...).
"Its debut album, Enter the Wu-Tang Clan, is considered to be one of the greatest albums in hip-hop history and it is said to have been groundbreaking for hip-hop and one of the most important album for hip-hop golden age."
from wiki: "The following is a list of Wu-Tang Clan associated acts, known as Killa Beez and Wu Fam "
A.I.G.:
is a duo composed of Allah Wise (aka The Wizard), and Darkim Be Allah. Name stands for "Allah Is God
Illuminati Network:
Group fronted by Wu-Syndicate's own Napoleon and features Solomon Childs, Dexter Wiggles from Westcoast Killa Beez and UK artist Shaka Amazulu the 7th. They are also called Wuminati
Almighty:
formed in 2008 by Killah Priest originally consisted of Bronze Nazareth, M-Eighty, Son One, C Rayz Walz, and 5 Star. Released their album Original S.I.N. in 2008. In 2014 the group reformed under a new lineup of Bronze Nazareth, M Eighty, Nino Grave, Canibus, Cappadonna and Planet Asia to release the album The 2nd Coming.
K.G.B.
(short for Klik Ga Bow) is a group made up of rappers Asiatic, Ill Knob Blobby Blob Head, Raheem, and DJ Kin.
Black Knights
Californian group was originally associated with the group North Star, originally consisted of Crisis, Doc Doom (deceased), Rugged Monk, and Warcloud.
Black Market Militia
Killah Priest, Timbo King, Hell Razah, Tragedy Khadafi and William Cooper.
Brooklyn Zu
Made of: Merdoc, Raison the Zoo Keeper, 12 O'Clock, Buddha Monk, and Shorty Shitstain
Da Manchuz:
composed of Drunken Dragon, Espionage(deceased), War, Babyface Fensta, Chilli Black, Lee-Major, G-Note$, Professor King Bean(deceased), and Born U Majesty .
+ 100 artist more, list to long for now to paste. But You get the idea...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wu-Tang_Clan_affiliates#Dreddy_Kruger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu-Tang_Clan
" In 2008, About.com ranked them the No. 1 greatest hip hop group of all time".
Kris Ex of Rolling Stone called Wu-Tang Clan "the best rap group ever".
In 2004, NME hailed them as one of the most influential groups of the last ten years. "
kui ikka Illuminati networki, Allahi ja KGBga (vaata ettepoole) koostööd teed siis pole siin midagi parata :p
Muidugi enmasti ei saada aru, et need on omaette vaimolendite ja vaimolendite võrgustikude moodustised inimkehas või inimeste keskel, kus erinevad inimese osad, grupid ja nimed mängivad rolli kui organismi eri osad, keda suurmaagiaga siis saadetakse üksiku räppari pihta mitme küljepealt, kui vaja.
Lisaks on tegu keelevara ja isiksuse lihvimisega, mis tõstab eneseväljendus oskust, enesekindlust ja jagab informatsiooni olukorra jaliikumiste kohta
Selliste võimvõrgustike, eriti kuna nad otseselt mitmed veel relgiooselt ka seotud, tuleb pidevalt laivis tõlke-uuendada-seotud-selgitustega ja tagant-järgi mis naelaga seina kinnitatud kui "jääv sõnum, suuna kirjeldus" tuleb ka kohe kindlasti, selgeks selgitada, et aru saada suures osas suundade sisust, kes juhib tumedaid ja kes heledaid pooli (vaismes mõttes, nagu ikka).
Lihtsad asjad nagu kes promob vägivaldset thug gänksterlust ja kes intellektuaalselt või vaimselt laienenud visiooni. Et saab suht kergesti mitmed eraldada. Selles võrgustikus mis uuesti tegemisel
"Its debut album, Enter the Wu-Tang Clan, is considered to be one of the greatest albums in hip-hop history and it is said to have been groundbreaking for hip-hop and one of the most important album for hip-hop golden age."
from wiki: "The following is a list of Wu-Tang Clan associated acts, known as Killa Beez and Wu Fam "
A.I.G.:
is a duo composed of Allah Wise (aka The Wizard), and Darkim Be Allah. Name stands for "Allah Is God
Illuminati Network:
Group fronted by Wu-Syndicate's own Napoleon and features Solomon Childs, Dexter Wiggles from Westcoast Killa Beez and UK artist Shaka Amazulu the 7th. They are also called Wuminati
Almighty:
formed in 2008 by Killah Priest originally consisted of Bronze Nazareth, M-Eighty, Son One, C Rayz Walz, and 5 Star. Released their album Original S.I.N. in 2008. In 2014 the group reformed under a new lineup of Bronze Nazareth, M Eighty, Nino Grave, Canibus, Cappadonna and Planet Asia to release the album The 2nd Coming.
K.G.B.
(short for Klik Ga Bow) is a group made up of rappers Asiatic, Ill Knob Blobby Blob Head, Raheem, and DJ Kin.
Black Knights
Californian group was originally associated with the group North Star, originally consisted of Crisis, Doc Doom (deceased), Rugged Monk, and Warcloud.
Black Market Militia
Killah Priest, Timbo King, Hell Razah, Tragedy Khadafi and William Cooper.
Brooklyn Zu
Made of: Merdoc, Raison the Zoo Keeper, 12 O'Clock, Buddha Monk, and Shorty Shitstain
Da Manchuz:
composed of Drunken Dragon, Espionage(deceased), War, Babyface Fensta, Chilli Black, Lee-Major, G-Note$, Professor King Bean(deceased), and Born U Majesty .
+ 100 artist more, list to long for now to paste. But You get the idea...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wu-Tang_Clan_affiliates#Dreddy_Kruger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu-Tang_Clan
" In 2008, About.com ranked them the No. 1 greatest hip hop group of all time".
Kris Ex of Rolling Stone called Wu-Tang Clan "the best rap group ever".
In 2004, NME hailed them as one of the most influential groups of the last ten years. "
kui ikka Illuminati networki, Allahi ja KGBga (vaata ettepoole) koostööd teed siis pole siin midagi parata :p
Muidugi enmasti ei saada aru, et need on omaette vaimolendite ja vaimolendite võrgustikude moodustised inimkehas või inimeste keskel, kus erinevad inimese osad, grupid ja nimed mängivad rolli kui organismi eri osad, keda suurmaagiaga siis saadetakse üksiku räppari pihta mitme küljepealt, kui vaja.
Lisaks on tegu keelevara ja isiksuse lihvimisega, mis tõstab eneseväljendus oskust, enesekindlust ja jagab informatsiooni olukorra jaliikumiste kohta
Selliste võimvõrgustike, eriti kuna nad otseselt mitmed veel relgiooselt ka seotud, tuleb pidevalt laivis tõlke-uuendada-seotud-selgitustega ja tagant-järgi mis naelaga seina kinnitatud kui "jääv sõnum, suuna kirjeldus" tuleb ka kohe kindlasti, selgeks selgitada, et aru saada suures osas suundade sisust, kes juhib tumedaid ja kes heledaid pooli (vaismes mõttes, nagu ikka).
Lihtsad asjad nagu kes promob vägivaldset thug gänksterlust ja kes intellektuaalselt või vaimselt laienenud visiooni. Et saab suht kergesti mitmed eraldada. Selles võrgustikus mis uuesti tegemisel
10 January 2016 14:01
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Kusjuures, see ongi huvitav, et unustatakse vahest.. et Süüria on hea näide, kuidas Päris moslemid ja kristlased koos, sama jumala nimel tegtusevad...
ja nende vastas.. alakaiida taolised ja muud viisnurga tegelased, USA isegi ei häbene ennast vikipeedias Syyria valitsusele vastasuunale panna...
jupp aega läks mul arusaamaks, kumb pool moslmeitest on õige.. sunnid või.... nu ja siis vaatasin kuidas nende algsed erinevad liidrid tegutsesid.. üks pool armastuse ja diplomaatiaga, ... teine pool pettuste ja salajaste mõrvamistega.. siis see suht selgema pildi tegi
ja nende vastas.. alakaiida taolised ja muud viisnurga tegelased, USA isegi ei häbene ennast vikipeedias Syyria valitsusele vastasuunale panna...
jupp aega läks mul arusaamaks, kumb pool moslmeitest on õige.. sunnid või.... nu ja siis vaatasin kuidas nende algsed erinevad liidrid tegutsesid.. üks pool armastuse ja diplomaatiaga, ... teine pool pettuste ja salajaste mõrvamistega.. siis see suht selgema pildi tegi
10 January 2016 05:30
Margus Meigo commented on Tiina Tarve's post.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Mul oli miinus -7 enne külma tulekut, seega pole suurt abi, ... kui just tuli alla teha...10 January 2016 05:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(eesti oma ka siia otsa, https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsXelNZnKcxlLW8f1HpdxL1hVuY4ahShu ) et sinsisem on
10 January 2016 04:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"one of the best rap albums of the decade 2000-2010" and dude is homeless before 2010....
...if u ainˇt 50 cent u ant worth a dollah
Insha'Allah!
...if u ainˇt 50 cent u ant worth a dollah
Insha'Allah!
10 January 2016 04:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Also:
Cannibal Ox is an American underground hip hop duo from Harlem, New York, United States. It consists of Vast Aire and Vordul Mega, often accompanied by DJ Cip-One.
In 2001, Cannibal Ox released the first album The Cold Vein on Definitive Jux. It received positive reviews from critics and put the duo in the underground hip hop spotlight,
and has since been described as one of the best rap albums of the decade 2000-2010
--
Shamar Gardner (born March 24, 1979), better known by his stage name Vordul Mega (a.k.a. Vordul Megallah), is an American rapper from New York. He is one half of underground hip hop duo Cannibal Ox and a member of the hip hop group Atoms Family.
In 2008, Vordul released his second album Megagraphitti.[2] The album was pieced together over the course of 8 years, taking breaks for side projects, and his debut solo album. In 2010,
it was reported Vordul was panhandling for money in Harlem, and was rumored to be homeless.
In 2011, he appeared on the Backwoodz Studios' compilation The Cost of Living on the track "Antz" also featuring Junclassic and Billy Woods.
Cannibal Ox is an American underground hip hop duo from Harlem, New York, United States. It consists of Vast Aire and Vordul Mega, often accompanied by DJ Cip-One.
In 2001, Cannibal Ox released the first album The Cold Vein on Definitive Jux. It received positive reviews from critics and put the duo in the underground hip hop spotlight,
and has since been described as one of the best rap albums of the decade 2000-2010
--
Shamar Gardner (born March 24, 1979), better known by his stage name Vordul Mega (a.k.a. Vordul Megallah), is an American rapper from New York. He is one half of underground hip hop duo Cannibal Ox and a member of the hip hop group Atoms Family.
In 2008, Vordul released his second album Megagraphitti.[2] The album was pieced together over the course of 8 years, taking breaks for side projects, and his debut solo album. In 2010,
it was reported Vordul was panhandling for money in Harlem, and was rumored to be homeless.
In 2011, he appeared on the Backwoodz Studios' compilation The Cost of Living on the track "Antz" also featuring Junclassic and Billy Woods.
10 January 2016 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Stemm even more.. to the HipHop jazz in fuced with herbz... also someone DOOM worked together. Try from a bit before minute 11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bebbW2PN9Os
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bebbW2PN9Os?t=638
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bebbW2PN9Os
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bebbW2PN9Os?t=638
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bebbW2PN9Os
10 January 2016 03:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-fyQI4n_tk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-fyQI4n_tk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-fyQI4n_tk
10 January 2016 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And turn back to the HipHop related to the last two posts, wit hthis and specially the next one...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4_1hS1aIC8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4_1hS1aIC8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4_1hS1aIC8
10 January 2016 03:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
More of the beat sound then words at first but still, religious dude as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nXdbB_tvNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nXdbB_tvNk
10 January 2016 03:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
a bit harder side ("fa-fa") but still a bit humble to stay educative
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M34OelgSlKI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M34OelgSlKI
10 January 2016 03:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Shortly before Black Bastards scheduled release date Subroc was killed while attempting to cross a Long Island expressway. Elektra Records dropped KMD later the same week.
The album's title and cover art proved too controversial for Elektra's management, who instructed Dante Ross to give Zev Love X the Black Bastards master tapes and $20,000 as incentive to leave the label. "
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THESE ARE RELGIOUS people ,to controversial ???
but 30 cent is alright and all the other diggitz?
The album's title and cover art proved too controversial for Elektra's management, who instructed Dante Ross to give Zev Love X the Black Bastards master tapes and $20,000 as incentive to leave the label. "
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THESE ARE RELGIOUS people ,to controversial ???
but 30 cent is alright and all the other diggitz?
10 January 2016 03:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
.:.
What a niggy know :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPxUajXS0Vc
What a niggy know :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPxUajXS0Vc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPxUajXS0Vc
10 January 2016 03:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5vw4ajnWGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5vw4ajnWGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5vw4ajnWGA
10 January 2016 03:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(religious) KMD (Kausing Much Damage, or A positive Kause in a Much Damaged society) was a hip hop trio active in the early 1990s
Zev Love X (DR DOOM), DJ Subroc and Rodan formed KMD in Long Beach, New York, in 1988.
The three were Black Muslims active in the Allah Ansaar community. Onyx the Birthstone Kid soon replaced Rodan, who left the group in order to finish high school.
Comments:
" They were way ahead of their time. Just creatively and lyrically, Especially DOOM. The music industry wasn't 100% prepared for DOOM and Subroc's mind and ideas "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_3GgAALPkQ
Zev Love X (DR DOOM), DJ Subroc and Rodan formed KMD in Long Beach, New York, in 1988.
The three were Black Muslims active in the Allah Ansaar community. Onyx the Birthstone Kid soon replaced Rodan, who left the group in order to finish high school.
Comments:
" They were way ahead of their time. Just creatively and lyrically, Especially DOOM. The music industry wasn't 100% prepared for DOOM and Subroc's mind and ideas "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_3GgAALPkQ
10 January 2016 03:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More of the taste of an that we can recognize as an HipHop (not the one from radio), Doom also there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv4sdme3Q-8&index=3&list=PLCea1eRiVCGhcUGJK2wx54DBT2bDHrHOC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv4sdme3Q-8&index=3&list=PLCea1eRiVCGhcUGJK2wx54DBT2bDHrHOC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv4sdme3Q-8&index=3&list=PLCea1eRiVCGhcUGJK2wx54DBT2bDHrHOC
10 January 2016 03:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Can You imagine, today's usual pop electronic software music producers would show on their Virtual DJ software how to place samples top of each other in a way that 4 years old can make a music.
But no..
you are shown HUUUGE studio like rooms with a zillion buttons, as if the ones jumping on alcohol would make any difference from few hours produced song from a tuned one.
Esimesel tiigrihüppel osaledes, mäletan kuidas imestasin nähes kui lihtne on elektroonilist muusikat thea mis suht kuulatav, pre loaded juppidest nagu klottse kokku laoks ja ime kombel pea kõik sobib...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHE6hZU72A4&list=PL_7QhybItOLsgMojLZGz7OocuNyiyQ2Gg&index=29
But no..
you are shown HUUUGE studio like rooms with a zillion buttons, as if the ones jumping on alcohol would make any difference from few hours produced song from a tuned one.
Esimesel tiigrihüppel osaledes, mäletan kuidas imestasin nähes kui lihtne on elektroonilist muusikat thea mis suht kuulatav, pre loaded juppidest nagu klottse kokku laoks ja ime kombel pea kõik sobib...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHE6hZU72A4&list=PL_7QhybItOLsgMojLZGz7OocuNyiyQ2Gg&index=29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHE6hZU72A4&list=PL_7QhybItOLsgMojLZGz7OocuNyiyQ2Gg&index=29
10 January 2016 02:43
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
lets hope You will not getting in to vaccines to much man..
10 January 2016 02:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Imelise potensiaaliga olevused!
;)
;)
10 January 2016 01:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hippide lammutamiste mustad pooled, ehk kes siis algsete sakslaste päris hippide ideed nässu keerasid:
".... the Diggers moved out of the City, creating various land bases in Forest Knolls, Olema, Covelo, Salmon River, Trinidad, and Black Bear California. In those places they integrated with other groups: The Free Bakery, the Up Against the Wall Motherfuckers, and the Gypsy Truckers, creating The Free Family. .."
"The Diggers' division of labor between men and women has been criticized as sexist, with male members primarily forming ideas while female members of the organization were tasked with most of the practical and instrumental work these ideas required. For instance, in providing free food, male members of the group socialized and promoted the events, while female group members did most of the work of collecting food, cooking and serving it. Decision-making in the organization was controlled by male Diggers, who either came up with or took credit for new ideas, while female Diggers, who provided much of the organization's income via welfare checks and social assistance, were sidelined. This stratification of labor "typifies prefeminist-era radicalism in the sixties.""
The Up Against the Wall Motherfuckers (often referred to as simply "The Motherfuckers", or UAW/MF) was an anarchist affinity group based in New York City. This "street gang with analysis" was famous for its Lower East Side direct action and is said to have inspired members of the Weather Underground and the Yippies.
ja selle analyysi osa said nad ka teadagi millistelt punastelt, lisaks loovate ja siirate inimeste ära kasutamist .. muidugi mispäriselt juhtus on pikk ja keeruline seletada, aga see võim mis plaanis oli ahmis ennast täis s (liht keeli ameerika ja vene kes koos korda rakendasid..) sest nad ei osanud arusaada ja hoida psühedeeliat kontrolli all, kuig alguses see tundus olema ideaalne tööriist kasutamaks siiruse ja usalduse ning inspiratsiooni jaoks, kuid tegi liiga suure hulga inimeste soove headeks ja vähem vägivaldselt radikaalseks kui radikaalid oleks soovinud.
see selleks, ei ole valmis nende sõnade kirjeldmaiseks praegu veel nagunii
The Motherfuckers grew out of a Dada-influenced art group called Black Mask with some additional people involved with the anti-Vietnam War Angry Arts week, held in January 1967. Formed in 1966 by painter Ben Morea and the poet Dan Georgakas, Black Mask produced a broadside of the same name and declared that revolutionary art should be "an integral part of life, as in primitive society, and not an appendage to wealth
(näed erinevus on nad soovisid panna noori primitiivsesse ja radikaalsesse olukorda samal ajal kui hipid soovivad arenenud ja looduspärase armastusepõhise kogukonna hoidmist. Ilma maskita. )
n May 1968, Black Mask changed its name and went underground. Their new name, Up Against the Wall Motherfuckers, came from a poem by Amiri Baraka. Abbie Hoffman characterized them as "the middle-class nightmare... an anti-media media phenomenon simply because their name could not be printed."[3]
Early Motherfuckers included Tom Neumann, the stepson of Herbert Marcuse, John Sundstrom, Alan Hoffman and Alan Phillips
Kuid nad väga pahad ka läbinisti ei sanud olla lõpuni, sest deemonitega koos tansisid ka väga head inimsed, kes suurema plaanitud paha neutraliseerisid.
Need ideed mida hipid ära aitasid likvideerida, on meeletult palju. Kõik need mass mürgitamised, enesetapu ja mass õhkulaskmise ideed ja palju muud.. mida agendid ja olendid proovisid saada tegema inimesi kuid peale seda kui neile otseselt edukalt vastu seisti inimeste poolt kes olid seljatagusega hipid, siis nad teatsid ,et nad ei saa kasutada neid ideid... argusest, et teadasaadakse kuhu agentide seljatagused niidid viisid.
vist oli midagi sellist eks ?
Eventually, as the political and economic climate changed toward 1970–1971, the Motherfuckers ceased concentrated activities in New York City, stopped referring to themselves as UAW/MF, and many members moved to New Mexico, California, and other states.
As Motherfucker Terry C. once stated, "Motherfuckers was just a form. That time is past. It's time to move on."
Despite rumors to the contrary, the Motherfuckers were never part of, or associated with, the Situationist International. Situationist Raoul Vaneigem did not want to have anything to do with them during his visit to New York City; Morea castigated Vaneigem in correspondence for his out-of-touch "person of letters" persona.[citation needed] The English section of the SI was expelled in 1967 for its ties to the Motherfuckers. They went on to form the King Mob group
(Kui keegi NII proovib näidata, et nad EI ole.. siis tuleb ka uurida, et mis toimub... mis plaan see on hoida neid eraldi,et ei tekiks marxsistide maiku jurde.. et miks nad seda proovisid ära hoida, selle asemel, et oma ideid neile levitada, kui se päriselt võõras grupp oleks? Sest nende bossidel oli plaan.. hoida kohalike gruppe puhtad otsesest maxsismi sidumisest, et nad ei oskaks linki teha ja aru saada osade ideede punastest juurtest mida nende sisse prooviti panna ja pandi ka..)
Muidugi raskeks seda näha teeb mitu asja, esiteks see, et olid ausad liikmed kes siiralt ei soovinud marxismiga liituda koos marxisitidest agentidega kes pidid aitama juhatada neid gruppe kuid mite otseselt teadvustama, et nad punases usunas liiguvad, samas aga psyhedeelia vaba kasutus rikkus palju punaste plaane, sest punased ka ameerikat enda omaks peavad... lihtsalt pole veel akseteeritud nende täielik võim igas sektoris ja seega nad peavad veel kapis olema...
The Situationist International (SI) was an international organization of social revolutionaries made up of avant-garde artists, intellectuals, and political theorists, prominent in Europe from its formation in 1957 to its dissolution in 1972.
The intellectual foundations of the Situationist International were derived primarily from anti-authoritarian Marxism and the avant-garde art movements of the early 20th century, particularly Dada and Surrealism.
In 1956, members of the Letterist International made contact with several different artistic collectives at the First World Congress of Free Artists in Alba, Italy, finding significant common ground politically and philosophically.[citation needed] In July 1957, the Situationist International was established with the fusion of several of these extremely small avant-garde artistic tendencies: the Lettrist International, the International Movement for an Imaginist Bauhaus (an offshoot of COBRA), and the London Psychogeographical Association. Later, the Situationist International drew ideas from other groups such as Socialisme ou Barbarie
Kuid nägid vaeva, et neid ei seotaks siis nendega kes väliselt tava inimestele tundusid väga sarnased neile.. miks?
Selleks et neid teisi hoida "Puhtana" eeemal illusioonist, et neil kommunismialuspõhja ideesi palju , neile piisas kui prooviti hoida gruppe eemal relgioonilistest arusaamadest ja hoiti eemal nationalistlikust arusaamast samas arusaades et nad pole sellepärast veel punased (kuid punaste arvates nad kasulikud narrid.. kuid native ameeriklased omalt poolt andisd rohtusi mis hoopis muus tasemes tarkusi andsid piisavale hulgale, et mitte lasta kurjusel üle liia liiialt sügavale imbuda, mis oli puhas lahtine lihtsalt sissepääsetav uks, mis oleks ja ka tegi, suurt suurt mitte head... kuid ilma hippi lukkudeta, oleks need vead palju sügavamad, kiiremad ja kuni ülevõtuni välja mindud, sest oleks piisavalt ligi saadud valitsuse kõikidele osadele korraga läbi "oma inimeste" ,et panna rahvast ise oma valitsust kukutama ... mis oleks kiirelt asendatud siis nendega, kes punaste õpetustega kuid kellel pole otseselt seotust siis punastega väliselt, .. noh olid suts narhistid osad vms... varuks ka muid lipsu ja prilli mehi muidugi... kuid täeilik ülevõt jäi ära, ja usa sees endiselt jäi kasvama palju head ja tugevat mis veelgi suurema hoo ja teravuse, pranoia punaste osas käima lükkas.. ... kuigi nad ise olid pool pimedad, need punaste vastased ja ei saanud aru kuhu suunas nad tulisatavad ja miks ja keda)
".... the Diggers moved out of the City, creating various land bases in Forest Knolls, Olema, Covelo, Salmon River, Trinidad, and Black Bear California. In those places they integrated with other groups: The Free Bakery, the Up Against the Wall Motherfuckers, and the Gypsy Truckers, creating The Free Family. .."
"The Diggers' division of labor between men and women has been criticized as sexist, with male members primarily forming ideas while female members of the organization were tasked with most of the practical and instrumental work these ideas required. For instance, in providing free food, male members of the group socialized and promoted the events, while female group members did most of the work of collecting food, cooking and serving it. Decision-making in the organization was controlled by male Diggers, who either came up with or took credit for new ideas, while female Diggers, who provided much of the organization's income via welfare checks and social assistance, were sidelined. This stratification of labor "typifies prefeminist-era radicalism in the sixties.""
The Up Against the Wall Motherfuckers (often referred to as simply "The Motherfuckers", or UAW/MF) was an anarchist affinity group based in New York City. This "street gang with analysis" was famous for its Lower East Side direct action and is said to have inspired members of the Weather Underground and the Yippies.
ja selle analyysi osa said nad ka teadagi millistelt punastelt, lisaks loovate ja siirate inimeste ära kasutamist .. muidugi mispäriselt juhtus on pikk ja keeruline seletada, aga see võim mis plaanis oli ahmis ennast täis s (liht keeli ameerika ja vene kes koos korda rakendasid..) sest nad ei osanud arusaada ja hoida psühedeeliat kontrolli all, kuig alguses see tundus olema ideaalne tööriist kasutamaks siiruse ja usalduse ning inspiratsiooni jaoks, kuid tegi liiga suure hulga inimeste soove headeks ja vähem vägivaldselt radikaalseks kui radikaalid oleks soovinud.
see selleks, ei ole valmis nende sõnade kirjeldmaiseks praegu veel nagunii
The Motherfuckers grew out of a Dada-influenced art group called Black Mask with some additional people involved with the anti-Vietnam War Angry Arts week, held in January 1967. Formed in 1966 by painter Ben Morea and the poet Dan Georgakas, Black Mask produced a broadside of the same name and declared that revolutionary art should be "an integral part of life, as in primitive society, and not an appendage to wealth
(näed erinevus on nad soovisid panna noori primitiivsesse ja radikaalsesse olukorda samal ajal kui hipid soovivad arenenud ja looduspärase armastusepõhise kogukonna hoidmist. Ilma maskita. )
n May 1968, Black Mask changed its name and went underground. Their new name, Up Against the Wall Motherfuckers, came from a poem by Amiri Baraka. Abbie Hoffman characterized them as "the middle-class nightmare... an anti-media media phenomenon simply because their name could not be printed."[3]
Early Motherfuckers included Tom Neumann, the stepson of Herbert Marcuse, John Sundstrom, Alan Hoffman and Alan Phillips
Kuid nad väga pahad ka läbinisti ei sanud olla lõpuni, sest deemonitega koos tansisid ka väga head inimsed, kes suurema plaanitud paha neutraliseerisid.
Need ideed mida hipid ära aitasid likvideerida, on meeletult palju. Kõik need mass mürgitamised, enesetapu ja mass õhkulaskmise ideed ja palju muud.. mida agendid ja olendid proovisid saada tegema inimesi kuid peale seda kui neile otseselt edukalt vastu seisti inimeste poolt kes olid seljatagusega hipid, siis nad teatsid ,et nad ei saa kasutada neid ideid... argusest, et teadasaadakse kuhu agentide seljatagused niidid viisid.
vist oli midagi sellist eks ?
Eventually, as the political and economic climate changed toward 1970–1971, the Motherfuckers ceased concentrated activities in New York City, stopped referring to themselves as UAW/MF, and many members moved to New Mexico, California, and other states.
As Motherfucker Terry C. once stated, "Motherfuckers was just a form. That time is past. It's time to move on."
Despite rumors to the contrary, the Motherfuckers were never part of, or associated with, the Situationist International. Situationist Raoul Vaneigem did not want to have anything to do with them during his visit to New York City; Morea castigated Vaneigem in correspondence for his out-of-touch "person of letters" persona.[citation needed] The English section of the SI was expelled in 1967 for its ties to the Motherfuckers. They went on to form the King Mob group
(Kui keegi NII proovib näidata, et nad EI ole.. siis tuleb ka uurida, et mis toimub... mis plaan see on hoida neid eraldi,et ei tekiks marxsistide maiku jurde.. et miks nad seda proovisid ära hoida, selle asemel, et oma ideid neile levitada, kui se päriselt võõras grupp oleks? Sest nende bossidel oli plaan.. hoida kohalike gruppe puhtad otsesest maxsismi sidumisest, et nad ei oskaks linki teha ja aru saada osade ideede punastest juurtest mida nende sisse prooviti panna ja pandi ka..)
Muidugi raskeks seda näha teeb mitu asja, esiteks see, et olid ausad liikmed kes siiralt ei soovinud marxismiga liituda koos marxisitidest agentidega kes pidid aitama juhatada neid gruppe kuid mite otseselt teadvustama, et nad punases usunas liiguvad, samas aga psyhedeelia vaba kasutus rikkus palju punaste plaane, sest punased ka ameerikat enda omaks peavad... lihtsalt pole veel akseteeritud nende täielik võim igas sektoris ja seega nad peavad veel kapis olema...
The Situationist International (SI) was an international organization of social revolutionaries made up of avant-garde artists, intellectuals, and political theorists, prominent in Europe from its formation in 1957 to its dissolution in 1972.
The intellectual foundations of the Situationist International were derived primarily from anti-authoritarian Marxism and the avant-garde art movements of the early 20th century, particularly Dada and Surrealism.
In 1956, members of the Letterist International made contact with several different artistic collectives at the First World Congress of Free Artists in Alba, Italy, finding significant common ground politically and philosophically.[citation needed] In July 1957, the Situationist International was established with the fusion of several of these extremely small avant-garde artistic tendencies: the Lettrist International, the International Movement for an Imaginist Bauhaus (an offshoot of COBRA), and the London Psychogeographical Association. Later, the Situationist International drew ideas from other groups such as Socialisme ou Barbarie
Kuid nägid vaeva, et neid ei seotaks siis nendega kes väliselt tava inimestele tundusid väga sarnased neile.. miks?
Selleks et neid teisi hoida "Puhtana" eeemal illusioonist, et neil kommunismialuspõhja ideesi palju , neile piisas kui prooviti hoida gruppe eemal relgioonilistest arusaamadest ja hoiti eemal nationalistlikust arusaamast samas arusaades et nad pole sellepärast veel punased (kuid punaste arvates nad kasulikud narrid.. kuid native ameeriklased omalt poolt andisd rohtusi mis hoopis muus tasemes tarkusi andsid piisavale hulgale, et mitte lasta kurjusel üle liia liiialt sügavale imbuda, mis oli puhas lahtine lihtsalt sissepääsetav uks, mis oleks ja ka tegi, suurt suurt mitte head... kuid ilma hippi lukkudeta, oleks need vead palju sügavamad, kiiremad ja kuni ülevõtuni välja mindud, sest oleks piisavalt ligi saadud valitsuse kõikidele osadele korraga läbi "oma inimeste" ,et panna rahvast ise oma valitsust kukutama ... mis oleks kiirelt asendatud siis nendega, kes punaste õpetustega kuid kellel pole otseselt seotust siis punastega väliselt, .. noh olid suts narhistid osad vms... varuks ka muid lipsu ja prilli mehi muidugi... kuid täeilik ülevõt jäi ära, ja usa sees endiselt jäi kasvama palju head ja tugevat mis veelgi suurema hoo ja teravuse, pranoia punaste osas käima lükkas.. ... kuigi nad ise olid pool pimedad, need punaste vastased ja ei saanud aru kuhu suunas nad tulisatavad ja miks ja keda)
9 January 2016 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tegelikut muidugi Hippidelt pandi tuuri muusika innovatsioon ja taandati seda lihtsamaks:
"In New York City musicians and audiences from the female, homosexual, black, and Latino
communities ADOPTED several traits from the hippies and psychedelia. They included overwhelming sound, free-form dancing, trippy lighting, colorful costumes, and hallucinogens.
Psychedelic soul groups like the Chambers Brothers and especially Sly and The Family Stone influenced proto-disco acts such as Isaac Hayes, Willie Hutch and the Philadelphia Sound.
In addition, the perceived positivity, lack of irony, and earnestness of the hippies informed proto-disco music like M.F.S.B.'s album Love Is the Message.
To the mainstream public M.F.S.B. stood for "Mother Father Sister Brother"; to the tough areas where they came from it was understood to stand for "Mother Fuckin' Son of a Bitch". Referring to their Playing Skill/Prowess.
Hippies created their own communities, listened to psychedelic music, embraced the sexual revolution, and used drugs such as cannabis, LSD, peyote and psilocybin mushrooms to explore altered states of consciousness.
( MITTE kokaini, nagu Disco pepude kultuurides )
Hippie fashion and values had a major effect on culture, influencing popular music, television, film, literature, and the arts.
According to Malcolm X's 1964 autobiography, the word hippie in 1940s Harlem had been used to describe a specific type of white man who "acted more Negro than Negroes"
The first signs of modern "proto-hippies" emerged in fin de siècle Europe. Between 1896 and 1908, a German youth movement arose as a countercultural reaction to the organized social and cultural clubs that centered around German folk music.
Known as Der Wandervogel ("migratory bird"), the hippie movement opposed the formality of traditional German clubs, instead emphasizing amateur music and singing, creative dress, and communal outings involving hiking and camping
Inspired by the works of Friedrich Nietzsche, Goethe, Hermann Hesse, and Eduard Baltzer, Wandervogel attracted thousands of young Germans who rejected the rapid trend toward urbanization and yearned for the pagan, back-to-nature spiritual life of their ancestors.
During the first several decades of the 20th century, Germans settled around the United States, bringing the values of the Wandervogel with them. Some opened the first health food stores, and many moved to southern California where they could practice an alternative lifestyle in a warm climate. Over time, young Americans adopted the beliefs and practices of the new immigrants. One group, called the "Nature Boys", took to the California desert and raised organic food, espousing a back-to-nature lifestyle like the Wandervogel. Songwriter eden ahbez wrote a hit song called Nature Boy inspired by Robert Bootzin (Gypsy Boots), who helped popularize health-consciousness, yoga, and organic food in the United States.
Like Wandervogel, the hippie movement in the United States began as a youth movement. Composed mostly of white teenagers and young adults between 15 and 25 years old, hippies inherited a tradition of cultural dissent from bohemians and beatniks of the Beat Generation in the late 1950s
Beats like Allen Ginsberg crossed over from the beat movement and became fixtures of the burgeoning hippie and anti-war movements. By 1965, hippies had become an established social group in the U.S., and the movement eventually expanded to other countries,
Hippie culture spread worldwide through a fusion of rock music, folk, blues, and psychedelic rock; it also found expression in literature, the dramatic arts, fashion, and the visual arts, including film, posters advertising rock concerts, and album covers
Along with the New Left and the American Civil Rights Movement, the hippie movement was one of three dissenting groups of the 1960s counterculture
Hippies perceived the dominant culture as a corrupt, monolithic entity that exercised undue power over their lives, calling this culture "The Establishment", "Big Brother", or "The Man". Noting that they were "seekers of meaning and value", scholars like Timothy Miller have described hippies as a new religious movement
During this period Greenwich Village in New York City and Berkeley, California anchored the American folk music circuit.
In April 1963, Chandler A. Laughlin III, co-founder of the Cabale Creamery, established a kind of tribal, family identity among approximately fifty people who attended a traditional, all-night Native American peyote ceremony in a rural setting. This ceremony combined a psychedelic experience with traditional Native American spiritual values; these people went on to sponsor a unique genre of musical expression and performance at the Red Dog Saloon in the isolated, old-time mining town of Virginia City, Nevada
During the summer of 1965, Laughlin recruited much of the original talent that led to a unique amalgam of traditional folk music and the developing psychedelic rock scene. He and his cohorts created what became known as "The Red Dog Experience",
featuring previously unknown musical acts — Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, Big Brother and the Holding Company, Quicksilver Messenger Service, The Charlatans, and others — who played in the completely refurbished, intimate setting of Virginia City's Red Dog Saloon. There was no clear delineation between "performers" and "audience" in "The Red Dog Experience", during which music, psychedelic experimentation, a unique sense of personal style and Bill Ham's first primitive light shows combined to create a new sense of community
(kuigi lefterid - ja selgitan ka Lisakomentaarisl, miks nad PÄRIS lefterid olid..sest nad elasid Naiste seljas, kuid siiski..)
the Diggers opened free stores which simply gave away their stock, provided free food, distributed free drugs, gave away money, organized free music concerts, and performed works of political art
“The Death of Hippie,” staged in October 1967. In “The Death of Hippie,” also staged in the Haight Ashby neighborhood, masked participants carried a coffin with the words "Hippie--Son of Media" on the side. This event was meant to mark the end of the era of Haight-Ashbury. The event was staged in such a way that any media outlet that simply described the happening would unknowingly transmit the Diggers' message that Hippies were a media invention. This was called "creating the condition you describe".
The Diggers skillfully used this technique for media relations. Their own publications, notably the Digger Papers, are the origin of such phrases as "Do your own thing" and "Today is the first day of the rest of your life." The Diggers fostered and inspired later groups like the Yippies.
many of the Diggers' children and grandchildren remain close and in contact with one another, and many (children included) are still involved with progressive causes.
Ja kuidas siis saada inimesi eemale Folk , veel vanadest saksa folk lauludest ja Aasia kultuuri saladustest ning ilust ja sügavusest?
LEIUTA DISCO ja promo seda cocaga!
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A forerunner to disco-style clubs was the private parties held by New York City DJ David Mancuso in The Loft, a members-only club in his home in 1970.
The first article about disco was written in 1973 by Vince Aletti for Rolling Stone magazine. In 1974 New York City's WPIX-FM premiered the first disco radio show.
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Philadelphia and New York soul were evolutions of the Motown sound, and were typified by the lavish percussion and lush strings that became a prominent part of mid-1970s disco songs. Early songs with disco elements include "You Keep Me Hangin' On" (The Supremes, 1966), "Only the Strong Survive" (Jerry Butler, 1968), "The Love You Save" by Jackson 5 (1970), "Soul Makossa" (Manu Dibango, 1972), "Superstition" by Stevie Wonder (1972) Eddie Kendricks' "Keep on Truckin'" (1973) and "The Love I Lost" by Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes (1973). "Love Train" by The O'Jays (1972), with M.F.S.B. as the backup band, hit Billboard Number 1 in March 1973, and has been called "disco".
The early disco was dominated with producers and labels such as Salsoul Records (Ken, Stanley, and Joseph Cayre), West End Records (Mel Cheren), Casablanca (Neil Bogart), and Prelude (Marvin Schlachter) to name a few. The genre was also shaped by Tom Moulton, who wanted to extend the enjoyment — thus creating the extended mix or "remix". Other influential DJs and remixers who helped to establish what became known as the "disco sound" included David Mancuso, Nicky Siano, Shep Pettibone, Larry Levan, Walter Gibbons, and Chicago-based "Godfather of House" Frankie Knuckles.
"In New York City musicians and audiences from the female, homosexual, black, and Latino
communities ADOPTED several traits from the hippies and psychedelia. They included overwhelming sound, free-form dancing, trippy lighting, colorful costumes, and hallucinogens.
Psychedelic soul groups like the Chambers Brothers and especially Sly and The Family Stone influenced proto-disco acts such as Isaac Hayes, Willie Hutch and the Philadelphia Sound.
In addition, the perceived positivity, lack of irony, and earnestness of the hippies informed proto-disco music like M.F.S.B.'s album Love Is the Message.
To the mainstream public M.F.S.B. stood for "Mother Father Sister Brother"; to the tough areas where they came from it was understood to stand for "Mother Fuckin' Son of a Bitch". Referring to their Playing Skill/Prowess.
Hippies created their own communities, listened to psychedelic music, embraced the sexual revolution, and used drugs such as cannabis, LSD, peyote and psilocybin mushrooms to explore altered states of consciousness.
( MITTE kokaini, nagu Disco pepude kultuurides )
Hippie fashion and values had a major effect on culture, influencing popular music, television, film, literature, and the arts.
According to Malcolm X's 1964 autobiography, the word hippie in 1940s Harlem had been used to describe a specific type of white man who "acted more Negro than Negroes"
The first signs of modern "proto-hippies" emerged in fin de siècle Europe. Between 1896 and 1908, a German youth movement arose as a countercultural reaction to the organized social and cultural clubs that centered around German folk music.
Known as Der Wandervogel ("migratory bird"), the hippie movement opposed the formality of traditional German clubs, instead emphasizing amateur music and singing, creative dress, and communal outings involving hiking and camping
Inspired by the works of Friedrich Nietzsche, Goethe, Hermann Hesse, and Eduard Baltzer, Wandervogel attracted thousands of young Germans who rejected the rapid trend toward urbanization and yearned for the pagan, back-to-nature spiritual life of their ancestors.
During the first several decades of the 20th century, Germans settled around the United States, bringing the values of the Wandervogel with them. Some opened the first health food stores, and many moved to southern California where they could practice an alternative lifestyle in a warm climate. Over time, young Americans adopted the beliefs and practices of the new immigrants. One group, called the "Nature Boys", took to the California desert and raised organic food, espousing a back-to-nature lifestyle like the Wandervogel. Songwriter eden ahbez wrote a hit song called Nature Boy inspired by Robert Bootzin (Gypsy Boots), who helped popularize health-consciousness, yoga, and organic food in the United States.
Like Wandervogel, the hippie movement in the United States began as a youth movement. Composed mostly of white teenagers and young adults between 15 and 25 years old, hippies inherited a tradition of cultural dissent from bohemians and beatniks of the Beat Generation in the late 1950s
Beats like Allen Ginsberg crossed over from the beat movement and became fixtures of the burgeoning hippie and anti-war movements. By 1965, hippies had become an established social group in the U.S., and the movement eventually expanded to other countries,
Hippie culture spread worldwide through a fusion of rock music, folk, blues, and psychedelic rock; it also found expression in literature, the dramatic arts, fashion, and the visual arts, including film, posters advertising rock concerts, and album covers
Along with the New Left and the American Civil Rights Movement, the hippie movement was one of three dissenting groups of the 1960s counterculture
Hippies perceived the dominant culture as a corrupt, monolithic entity that exercised undue power over their lives, calling this culture "The Establishment", "Big Brother", or "The Man". Noting that they were "seekers of meaning and value", scholars like Timothy Miller have described hippies as a new religious movement
During this period Greenwich Village in New York City and Berkeley, California anchored the American folk music circuit.
In April 1963, Chandler A. Laughlin III, co-founder of the Cabale Creamery, established a kind of tribal, family identity among approximately fifty people who attended a traditional, all-night Native American peyote ceremony in a rural setting. This ceremony combined a psychedelic experience with traditional Native American spiritual values; these people went on to sponsor a unique genre of musical expression and performance at the Red Dog Saloon in the isolated, old-time mining town of Virginia City, Nevada
During the summer of 1965, Laughlin recruited much of the original talent that led to a unique amalgam of traditional folk music and the developing psychedelic rock scene. He and his cohorts created what became known as "The Red Dog Experience",
featuring previously unknown musical acts — Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, Big Brother and the Holding Company, Quicksilver Messenger Service, The Charlatans, and others — who played in the completely refurbished, intimate setting of Virginia City's Red Dog Saloon. There was no clear delineation between "performers" and "audience" in "The Red Dog Experience", during which music, psychedelic experimentation, a unique sense of personal style and Bill Ham's first primitive light shows combined to create a new sense of community
(kuigi lefterid - ja selgitan ka Lisakomentaarisl, miks nad PÄRIS lefterid olid..sest nad elasid Naiste seljas, kuid siiski..)
the Diggers opened free stores which simply gave away their stock, provided free food, distributed free drugs, gave away money, organized free music concerts, and performed works of political art
“The Death of Hippie,” staged in October 1967. In “The Death of Hippie,” also staged in the Haight Ashby neighborhood, masked participants carried a coffin with the words "Hippie--Son of Media" on the side. This event was meant to mark the end of the era of Haight-Ashbury. The event was staged in such a way that any media outlet that simply described the happening would unknowingly transmit the Diggers' message that Hippies were a media invention. This was called "creating the condition you describe".
The Diggers skillfully used this technique for media relations. Their own publications, notably the Digger Papers, are the origin of such phrases as "Do your own thing" and "Today is the first day of the rest of your life." The Diggers fostered and inspired later groups like the Yippies.
many of the Diggers' children and grandchildren remain close and in contact with one another, and many (children included) are still involved with progressive causes.
Ja kuidas siis saada inimesi eemale Folk , veel vanadest saksa folk lauludest ja Aasia kultuuri saladustest ning ilust ja sügavusest?
LEIUTA DISCO ja promo seda cocaga!
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A forerunner to disco-style clubs was the private parties held by New York City DJ David Mancuso in The Loft, a members-only club in his home in 1970.
The first article about disco was written in 1973 by Vince Aletti for Rolling Stone magazine. In 1974 New York City's WPIX-FM premiered the first disco radio show.
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Philadelphia and New York soul were evolutions of the Motown sound, and were typified by the lavish percussion and lush strings that became a prominent part of mid-1970s disco songs. Early songs with disco elements include "You Keep Me Hangin' On" (The Supremes, 1966), "Only the Strong Survive" (Jerry Butler, 1968), "The Love You Save" by Jackson 5 (1970), "Soul Makossa" (Manu Dibango, 1972), "Superstition" by Stevie Wonder (1972) Eddie Kendricks' "Keep on Truckin'" (1973) and "The Love I Lost" by Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes (1973). "Love Train" by The O'Jays (1972), with M.F.S.B. as the backup band, hit Billboard Number 1 in March 1973, and has been called "disco".
The early disco was dominated with producers and labels such as Salsoul Records (Ken, Stanley, and Joseph Cayre), West End Records (Mel Cheren), Casablanca (Neil Bogart), and Prelude (Marvin Schlachter) to name a few. The genre was also shaped by Tom Moulton, who wanted to extend the enjoyment — thus creating the extended mix or "remix". Other influential DJs and remixers who helped to establish what became known as the "disco sound" included David Mancuso, Nicky Siano, Shep Pettibone, Larry Levan, Walter Gibbons, and Chicago-based "Godfather of House" Frankie Knuckles.
9 January 2016 22:06
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ja nyyd uuesti House juurde, st, kommige ikka Hocega seotut.. uurime veel korra kas siis USA voi Eurooplased disko ja Houcega tegelema hakkasid..
Disco was a key influence on the 1980s dance music style called House. A disco revival was seen, first in 2005 with Madonna's album Confessions on a Dance Floor, and again in 2013, as disco-styled songs by artists like Daft Punk (with Nile Rodgers), Justin Timberlake, Breakbot, and Bruno Mars filled the pop charts in the UK and the US "
" By the late 1970s most major U.S. cities had thriving disco club scenes, with Studio 54 being a well-known example of a disco club. Popular dances included The Hustle, a sexually suggestive dance. Discotheque-goers often wore expensive and extravagant fashions. There was also a thriving drug subculture in the disco scene, particularly for drugs that would enhance the experience of dancing to the loud music and the flashing lights, such as cocaine.
(kokaiiniga võib vist jah igast pealiskaudset muusikat taluda)
Origins of the term and type of nightclub:
" The term is derived from discothèque (French for "library of phonograph records", but subsequently used as a term for nightclubs in Paris). By the early 1940s, the terms DJ and Disc Jockey were in use to describe radio presenters. Because of restrictions, jazz dance halls in Occupied France played records instead of using live music. Eventually more than one of these jazz venues had the proper name discothèque. By 1959, the term was used in Paris to describe any of these type of nightclubs. That year a young reporter Klaus Quirini spontaneously started to select and introduce records at the Scotch-Club in Aachen, West Germany. By the following year the term was being used in the United States to describe that type of club, and a type of dancing in those clubs. By 1964, discotheque and the shorthand disco were used to describe a type of sleeveless dress worn when going out to nightclubs. In September 1964, Playboy Magazine used the word disco as a shorthand for a discothèque-styled nightclub "
Okey, theniliselt siis vist jah, Euroopa, kui prantsusmaa... kuid saksamaa ja usa suht samal ajal, et ju see müürlaste ühine plaan jälle oli : )
Disco was a key influence on the 1980s dance music style called House. A disco revival was seen, first in 2005 with Madonna's album Confessions on a Dance Floor, and again in 2013, as disco-styled songs by artists like Daft Punk (with Nile Rodgers), Justin Timberlake, Breakbot, and Bruno Mars filled the pop charts in the UK and the US "
" By the late 1970s most major U.S. cities had thriving disco club scenes, with Studio 54 being a well-known example of a disco club. Popular dances included The Hustle, a sexually suggestive dance. Discotheque-goers often wore expensive and extravagant fashions. There was also a thriving drug subculture in the disco scene, particularly for drugs that would enhance the experience of dancing to the loud music and the flashing lights, such as cocaine.
(kokaiiniga võib vist jah igast pealiskaudset muusikat taluda)
Origins of the term and type of nightclub:
" The term is derived from discothèque (French for "library of phonograph records", but subsequently used as a term for nightclubs in Paris). By the early 1940s, the terms DJ and Disc Jockey were in use to describe radio presenters. Because of restrictions, jazz dance halls in Occupied France played records instead of using live music. Eventually more than one of these jazz venues had the proper name discothèque. By 1959, the term was used in Paris to describe any of these type of nightclubs. That year a young reporter Klaus Quirini spontaneously started to select and introduce records at the Scotch-Club in Aachen, West Germany. By the following year the term was being used in the United States to describe that type of club, and a type of dancing in those clubs. By 1964, discotheque and the shorthand disco were used to describe a type of sleeveless dress worn when going out to nightclubs. In September 1964, Playboy Magazine used the word disco as a shorthand for a discothèque-styled nightclub "
Okey, theniliselt siis vist jah, Euroopa, kui prantsusmaa... kuid saksamaa ja usa suht samal ajal, et ju see müürlaste ühine plaan jälle oli : )
9 January 2016 22:01
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ja muidugi eelmainitutega pole midagi pstmist, kuid kui Disco artikkel lahti votta siis loeme:
@ | Disco is a genre of dance music containing elements of funk, soul, pop, and salsa that was most popular in the mid to late 1970s, though it has had brief resurgences. Its initial audiences were club-goers from the gay, African American, Italian American,[1] Latino, and psychedelic communities in New York City and Philadelphia during the late 1960s and early 1970s. Disco also was a reaction against both the domination of rock music and the stigmatization of dance music by the counterculture during this period. Women embraced disco as well, and the music eventually expanded to several other marginalized communities of the time. |
@ | Disco is a genre of dance music containing elements of funk, soul, pop, and salsa that was most popular in the mid to late 1970s, though it has had brief resurgences. Its initial audiences were club-goers from the gay, African American, Italian American,[1] Latino, and psychedelic communities in New York City and Philadelphia during the late 1960s and early 1970s. Disco also was a reaction against both the domination of rock music and the stigmatization of dance music by the counterculture during this period. Women embraced disco as well, and the music eventually expanded to several other marginalized communities of the time. |
9 January 2016 21:58
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Oih, ma isegi ei teadnud, et disko muusika 'ra kadunud on voi langenud, kuid loen ajaloost,et
@| The popularity of disco declined significantly in late 1979 and 1980. Many disco artists continued, but record companies began labeling their recordings as dance music. Dahl stated in a 2004 interview that disco was "probably on its way out. But I think it [Disco Demolition Night] hastened its demise".
According to Frank, "the Disco Demolition triggered a nationwide expression of anger against disco that caused disco to recede quickly from the American cultural landscape" |
ja muidugi siis peavad jahuma homode ja mustade yle mitu meetrit edasi:
Historian J. Zeitz suggests that while "an obvious explanation for the Disco Demolition Night riot might center on the desire of white, working-class baseball fans to strike out against an art form that they associated with African Americans, gays and lesbians, and Latinos"
Nevertheless, Harry Wayne Casey, singer for the disco act KC and the Sunshine Band, did not believe Disco Demolition Night itself was discriminatory, and stated his belief that Dahl was simply an idiot. Dahl himself rejects the notion that prejudice was his motivation for Disco Demolition Night. "The worst thing is people calling Disco Demolition homophobic or racist. It just wasn't ... We weren't thinking like that."
@| The popularity of disco declined significantly in late 1979 and 1980. Many disco artists continued, but record companies began labeling their recordings as dance music. Dahl stated in a 2004 interview that disco was "probably on its way out. But I think it [Disco Demolition Night] hastened its demise".
According to Frank, "the Disco Demolition triggered a nationwide expression of anger against disco that caused disco to recede quickly from the American cultural landscape" |
ja muidugi siis peavad jahuma homode ja mustade yle mitu meetrit edasi:
Historian J. Zeitz suggests that while "an obvious explanation for the Disco Demolition Night riot might center on the desire of white, working-class baseball fans to strike out against an art form that they associated with African Americans, gays and lesbians, and Latinos"
Nevertheless, Harry Wayne Casey, singer for the disco act KC and the Sunshine Band, did not believe Disco Demolition Night itself was discriminatory, and stated his belief that Dahl was simply an idiot. Dahl himself rejects the notion that prejudice was his motivation for Disco Demolition Night. "The worst thing is people calling Disco Demolition homophobic or racist. It just wasn't ... We weren't thinking like that."
9 January 2016 21:57
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>D >D >D
9 January 2016 21:48
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@ | The genre known as disco, named for its popularity in discotheques, evolved in the early 1970s in inner-city New York clubs, where disc jockeys would play imported dance music to get the crowd moving. With roots in African-American and Latin American music, and in gay culture, disco became mainstream by the mid-1970s. Even white artists associated with a much more sedate style of music had disco-influenced hits, such as Barry Manilow with "Copacabana".[1] By 1977, disco was very popular in the United States, especially after the release that year of the hit movie Saturday Night Fever.[2] This film starred John Travolta and featured music by the Bee Gees—the fact that both actor and performers were white and presented a heterosexual image did much to make disco widely popular. As Al Coury, president of RSO Records (which had released the bestselling soundtrack album for the film) put it, Saturday Night Fever "kind of took disco out of the closet."[3]
Despite disco's popularity, there were many who disliked it. Some felt the music too mechanical—Time magazine deemed it a "diabolical thump-and-shriek".[2][4] Others hated the music for the lifestyle associated with it, feeling that in the disco scene, personal appearance and style of dress were overly important.[2][4] The media, in discussing disco, emphasized its roots in gay culture. According to historian Gillian Frank, "by the time of the Disco Demolition in Comiskey Park, the media commonly emphasized that disco was gay and cultivated a widespread perception that disco was taking over".[5] Performers who cultivated a gay image, such as the Village People (described by Rolling Stone as "the face of disco") did nothing to efface these perceptions, and fears that rock music would die at the hands of disco increased after disco albums dominated the 21st Grammy Awards in February 1979.[6]
Despite disco's popularity, there were many who disliked it. Some felt the music too mechanical—Time magazine deemed it a "diabolical thump-and-shriek".[2][4] Others hated the music for the lifestyle associated with it, feeling that in the disco scene, personal appearance and style of dress were overly important.[2][4] The media, in discussing disco, emphasized its roots in gay culture. According to historian Gillian Frank, "by the time of the Disco Demolition in Comiskey Park, the media commonly emphasized that disco was gay and cultivated a widespread perception that disco was taking over".[5] Performers who cultivated a gay image, such as the Village People (described by Rolling Stone as "the face of disco") did nothing to efface these perceptions, and fears that rock music would die at the hands of disco increased after disco albums dominated the 21st Grammy Awards in February 1979.[6]
9 January 2016 21:47
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@ | Disco Demolition Night preceded, and may have helped precipitate, the decline of disco in late 1979; some scholars and disco artists have described the event as expressive of racism and homophobia while others have denied this connection. Disco Demolition Night remains well known as one of the most extreme promotions in major league history. |
9 January 2016 21:47
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Following Chicago's Disco Demolition Night in mid-1979, disco music's mainstream popularity fell into decline. In the early 1980s, fewer and fewer disco records were being released, but the genre remained popular in some Chicago nightclubs and on at least one radio station, WBMX-FM.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco_Demolition_Night
Disco Demolition Night was an ill-fated baseball promotion that took place on July 12, 1979, at Comiskey Park in Chicago, Illinois. At the climax of the event, a crate filled with disco records was blown up on the field between games of the twi-night doubleheader between the Chicago White Sox and the Detroit Tigers. Many of those in attendance had come to see the explosion rather than the games and rushed onto the field after the detonation. The playing field was damaged both by the explosion and by the rowdy fans to the point where the White Sox were required to forfeit the second game of the doubleheader to the Tigers.
In the late 1970s, dance-oriented disco music was very popular in the United States, particularly after featuring in hit films such as Saturday Night Fever (1977). Despite its popularity, disco sparked a backlash from rock music fans. This opposition was prominent enough that the White Sox, seeking to fill seats at Comiskey Park during a lackluster season, engaged Chicago shock jock and anti-disco campaigner Steve Dahl for the promotion at the July 12 doubleheader. Dahl's sponsoring radio station was 97.9 WLUP-FM, so attendees would pay 98 cents and bring a disco record; between games, Dahl would destroy the collected vinyl in an explosion.
White Sox officials had hoped for a crowd of 20,000, about 5,000 more than usual. Instead, at least 50,000 people—including tens of thousands of Dahl's adherents—packed the stadium, and thousands more continued to sneak in even after gates were closed. Many of the records were not collected by staff and were thrown like flying discs from the stands. After Dahl blew up the collected records, thousands of fans stormed the field and remained there until dispersed by riot police.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco_Demolition_Night
Disco Demolition Night was an ill-fated baseball promotion that took place on July 12, 1979, at Comiskey Park in Chicago, Illinois. At the climax of the event, a crate filled with disco records was blown up on the field between games of the twi-night doubleheader between the Chicago White Sox and the Detroit Tigers. Many of those in attendance had come to see the explosion rather than the games and rushed onto the field after the detonation. The playing field was damaged both by the explosion and by the rowdy fans to the point where the White Sox were required to forfeit the second game of the doubleheader to the Tigers.
In the late 1970s, dance-oriented disco music was very popular in the United States, particularly after featuring in hit films such as Saturday Night Fever (1977). Despite its popularity, disco sparked a backlash from rock music fans. This opposition was prominent enough that the White Sox, seeking to fill seats at Comiskey Park during a lackluster season, engaged Chicago shock jock and anti-disco campaigner Steve Dahl for the promotion at the July 12 doubleheader. Dahl's sponsoring radio station was 97.9 WLUP-FM, so attendees would pay 98 cents and bring a disco record; between games, Dahl would destroy the collected vinyl in an explosion.
White Sox officials had hoped for a crowd of 20,000, about 5,000 more than usual. Instead, at least 50,000 people—including tens of thousands of Dahl's adherents—packed the stadium, and thousands more continued to sneak in even after gates were closed. Many of the records were not collected by staff and were thrown like flying discs from the stands. After Dahl blew up the collected records, thousands of fans stormed the field and remained there until dispersed by riot police.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco_Demolition_Night
9 January 2016 21:44
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@ | Chicago house generally refers to house music produced during the mid-1980s and late-1980s within Chicago. Chicago house is not a particular style of house music; the term is generally used to refer to the first ever house music productions, which were by Chicago-based artists in the 1980s. |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_house
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_house
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_house
9 January 2016 21:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tegin listi muudetavaks peale 42te videot, saate ise juurde lisada. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsXelNZnKcxlot2dp9eDmW3hwn7M1sN4m&jct=DNQm58HSnAnQ4ikFJTbSx-KO1IGCbw
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsXelNZnKcxlot2dp9eDmW3hwn7M1sN4m&jct=DNQm58HSnAnQ4ikFJTbSx-KO1IGCbw
9 January 2016 16:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9qzYilrWRc Kaasaegsem, tantsulembelisem versioon mida oldSchoolikad maha teevad pigem .. kuid klubid oleks ikka tervemad kui midagi taolist järjest miksida suudaks, selle veidruse asemel mida praegu Bali jms clubidest tuleb eestis, kus järjest suvalisi laule mängitakse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9qzYilrWRc
9 January 2016 16:24
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Group: Kristuse Kogudus
on olemas veel piibel kus on eraldi selgitused ees, et "rõõmuga seotud kohad", "surmaga seotud kohad", "esoteerikaga seotud kohad", "armastusega..."
jne ning siis need kohad sinna taha pandud kirja,
kuid nüüd oluline asi piiblil, vaata kas ta on aus piiibel, nende siseviidetega igal lehel, et kui loed ühte kohta, siis sellega seotud kohtadesse viib sind reisile... ja see aitab haarata selle piiblitehnoloogia suuruse algust ja ajasliikumise mõõdet
(vana ei tasu muidugi ära visata, see nagu vana silmarõõm kes tõelise armastuseni tõi, see hoia alles või kingi edasi koos sisse kirjutatud vihjega, et otsigu veel seda järgmist...)9 January 2016 14:24
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Group: Kristuse Kogudus
nu ku ikaasas on ,siis juba süda õiges suunas, ega lugeda seda polegi alati kasuks kui segaduses paaniliselt otsida vastuseid.. sest mei lseetõlgendamise oskus on ka selline et...9 January 2016 14:21
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Group: Kristuse Kogudus
selles osas, las ta kindlasti hoiab kavõi korraliku piiblit kodus, mille osas tal austus on, soovitavalt need versioonid kus pole häbenetud jumala nimeks "jehoova" öelda, enamasti nendes muud tõlked ka paremad (ma ei mõtle siin otseselt New World jehoovakate oma, mis muidugi lisaks võib ka olla info mõttes see väga hea, kuid nagu päris soome piibliseltsi omad olid ühed head, kus aint rist esikaanel, tumesisnist värvi.. ja lillat värvi ka see versioon saadaval)9 January 2016 14:18
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Group: Kristuse Kogudus
sest ega kuri muidu ei pidavat saama,... peab ise kutsuma..9 January 2016 14:16
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Group: Kristuse Kogudus
ja veel 2-3 sellist tuttavat pannakse ümber... suunatakse veel keegi võõras, kes sarnase mõtteküüsis ja sarnaste teadmiste pettuses elavad mis agendid meelega teevad.. ja siis inimene näeb, et kõi k"targad" kes teavad teemas, räägivad ühte ja sama juttu.. ja siis ta hakkabki ise enesest neid rituaale või asju tegema, mis laseb lõpuks ta üles soendades päris kurja uksest sisse kutsuda9 January 2016 14:16
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Group: Kristuse Kogudus
igaljuhul eitasuenast lasta härida ja mitte ka niisama endale igast nõia inimesi ja energeetika puhastajaid kutsuda.. või muidu teadjaid... sest neid asju tehakse ka selleks, et inimese hinge pihta panna.. tehakse paar triki mille osas nad tevad, et inimene peab abi kysima., sest teadusei vasta ja mõistus ja usklikud ei julgetõde öelda...
siis valmis pannakse "Juhuslikult" mingi vaimudega tegelevad või agendid, (kui ta folkloori või riigi tööl, kui tal mingit olulist infot on elu kohta või kui ta enda nö energeetika oluline on,)
ja need agendid lihtsasti usalduse tekitavad oma maagilise inimese kuulama panemise oskusega.. ja siis suunavad oma õpetusega inimese ise tegema neid asju.. mida muidu inimeneei teeks..9 January 2016 14:15
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Group: Jeesuse jüngrid
usu mind, neid kellel on, ja kes arvavad, et neil on, neid palju...
Kuid ei tasu mõelda, nagu, et see ilmtingimata midagi ilusat ja head on, sest Jumala tegelasedei tegele selliste trikkidega eriti tihti, mis meid segadusse javad ja mis ohtlikud ka tunduvad ju... et kyynal põleb...
see rohkem nagu KGB valtkonda kuuluv, kus korteris hääletult sees käiakse, ja siis jäetakse tass tagurpidi lauapeale vms, vihjet... mis ajab inimese kuuli kokku, sest seda kurta ei saa kellegile, et tass lauapeal ümber oli.. aga samas tead, et see normaalne pole9 January 2016 14:11
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ja miks tal lillad küünlad kodus on kui ta esoteerikaga ei tegele?9 January 2016 13:49
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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ja muid värve on ka majas eks, küünlavalikud palju oli mis põlemapanemise asemel oli?9 January 2016 13:49
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siin kohal siis see küsimus oli ette ära pandud, mida ei läinud kaua kuni siin küsiti: https://www.facebook.com/groups/517105011779350/permalink/546461378843713/?comment_id=546482918841559¬if_t=group_comment_reply
"Meelis Vesi:
Kui see öösel juhus, millal tütar põleva küünla avastas, kas hommikul? Kas majas oli veel inimesi? Millal see oli?"
"Meelis Vesi
Kas emb kumb neist vahel ka asju unustama kipub?"
5 minutit tagasi...9 January 2016 13:47
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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Anne: tutavad küsimused onja?9 January 2016 13:42
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Kallas's post.
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Vähe on neid kes kadunuks jäi sest suurt osa kes kadunud ,arvataks,e et välismaal või sõprade pool, sest omakestega ei suhelda... ja siis ei pakuhuvi
ning lisaks tulnukate osas, inimesi väga palju kaduma läinud ja nende asemel ainult algse inimeste mälestuste ja välimusega kestad liiguvad..9 January 2016 13:39
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Iga ingel tuleb vastu võtta aupatlikult ja vastvalt ingli soovide viljadele hinnata kas austusega keelduda nende ajsade tegemisest mis küsitakse või veel suurema aupatlikuse ja kartlikuse ning samas sooja sõbralikuse tundega teha kuni süda juhatab ja teguviisid nende piibli osadega kokku lähevad mis heategemise ja tagasihoidlikuse osas õpetussõnu jagavad, hoidudes TÄIELIKULT igasugusest alkoholist ja rahulikult tööülesanne tagasi ulatades, kui tunned, et siitmaalt juba keegi teine saaks edasi teha paremini (kuid ise veel mõnda aega tehes seda edasi, ... kindlasti mitte pingutada viimase piirini välja, kuni vere või mõrumaitse suus, siis juba valesti oled teinud ,sest Jumal ei sooviks sind orjastatuna valus rügamas näha, see märk, et juba mingi õigluse peateelt oled kõrvale läinud ja tuleks ikka kaasata teisi inimesi oma tööse ka, kes hea sõnanagi, leivaga toetaks ja kallistaks aegajalt, kuid kõik need kolm võivad ka erinevad inimesed olla... lihtsalt ära arva, et oled üksi selliste vimuolendite vahel ja vastas... üksi olek on illusioon mille kaudu meid eraldada püütaks, pannes meie ümber koopia kogu päris maailmast ja siis hoides meid erladi, see maailma koopia osad reguleerivad ennast nagu arvutivõrgus interneti lehed, iga üks oma osa, ...sinu maailma kantakse teise inimese ligilähedased teod, suht virtuaalselt edasi , lastes erinevates ilmades reaalsuse ligidal ka kokku üksteisega.. kuid mitte ärkvel olles raske arusaada, kas see nüüd on päris või mitte päris versioon... ja mida teed mitte päris ilmas, seda vabalt saadakse üle kanda ka teiste mitte päris ilma kes siis omakorda vastavalt reageerivad ja selle kaudu Sinu ilma muudavad tagasi, siit ka hiina karma filosoofia, kus karma tähendab "sinu enda tegemine" ja teadlaste "igal teguviisil on vastureaktsioon" ... kuid oluline on, millises iganes maailmas ennast olemas juhtud olema, kas pärismaailmas kiip peas nähes osa ilma moonutatult või virtuaalis, endiselt koguaeg hoia piiblireeglid, mis erineval põeval ja maailmas, ka kõige lihtsamate kohtadepeal kuni elulõpuni jälle uuena saavad kõlada, kui mõistad, et loed seda sõna mis on südames muutumatu oma olulisuse suuna osas ning mis paneb sind mõistma looduse, loomingu ja looja olulisust, kuigi talle piisa ka kui kahest esimesest juba arusaaksid ja neid rakendada mõistaksid)9 January 2016 12:58
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Ta ei pea eriti moonutama ennast, ta nimi oligi ju Lutsifer vist eks ?
Et siin tuleb lihtsalt osata taltsutada tuld, raudmeest vaja kellel piisavalt sõpru, et ta tules ei sulaks ja saaks tule taltsutatud, kuid see raskem kui tulihobuse taltsutamine ja ohtlikum ka, tegu ikkagi ühe meie maailmaga kokkupuutuvatest jõududest võimsamate jõududega mida eales loodud on.
Inimesed aga nii naiivsed et prääksuvad niisama, ise suvalises suunas palvetades /(mitte ilmakaare) ja siis selliste jõudude kallal karuteenet tehes haukudes , kes isegi ei vaevu aega võtma haukuja hävitamiseks, kuna to nii teisejärguline võrreldes tõeliste usuinimeste või kõrgpoliitikute, teadlaste, nõidade, artistide ja kirjanikudega kelle kaudu päriselt saab inimeeli suunata ja ühtteist ära teha9 January 2016 12:47
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minu jaoks need asjad nii tavalise, et mitte ei otsi tähendusi kui see koheselt selgena ei tule, vaid võtan seda, kui "ju siis on vaja" sellel kes põlema pani,
ja kui mul vaja sellest aru saada, ju siis saan, kui saan.,
Ega kõike siin ilmas ka inimestele ja inimeste pärast, ja veelgi enam meie pärast tehta.
Kuigi suures plaaanis võib nii tunduda küll, sest eks see Kristlus üks inimese kummardamise usk ja tehnoloogia ole, keegi pole inimese väärtus iialgi nii kõrgele tõstnud kui see usk.
Kristlus peaaegu nagu Apple iPhone arvuite maailmas /(nii heas kui veas)9 January 2016 12:41
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vasta küsimustele kui saad, sest need pole minu kui isiklikud küsimused, vaid küsimused mis inimeste meelte summast tulevad, mida seda postitust loevad inimesed suures hulgas oma kahtluse meeleraviks vajavad9 January 2016 12:37
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eks igas heas naljas ole omakorda tõtt ka9 January 2016 12:19
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(nali, enamvähem)9 January 2016 12:19
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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preestrid ka palju tänapäeval nii akadeemilised ja arad uskuma ega paljud julgeks andagi vastust sellele, kuigi tegu võib olla ju millegi öörmiselt olulisega, et veel just interneti inimese koduga seotud valiti.
Eks nüüd pead mõtlema... et kuna ise ei tea, ja Jumala käest palvemeditatsionis loodetavasti juba küsisid ka vastust ja kanal ei toiminud eks ?
Et siis peab mõtlema, suuna, kas see asi mida võib avalikult rääkida, on see ohtlik asi mis Sulle mõeldud ja lähedastele ainult ,või see suur sõnum mis mõeldud kirikupeadele välja, kes JUST Sinu versiooni sellest usuks, mitte aga kellegi teise loba.
Sest eks igal ühel antud oma vaimuoskused, kellel tõetunnetamise, kellel tõerääkimise või tõena kõlamise oskus (ja veel omakorda, spetsiifilisel on gruppe kelle sõnad just teatud gruppidele tõena tunduvad ühtselt, kuigi kuulajad omavahel ei pruugi muidu samas arvamuses ja usus ollagi... selliste inimestega tuuakse vajalikke gruppe kokku ja liidetakse, oluline töö, vastutusega on siis sellise ande (tõena kõlamise oskus) rakendamine. Kuid eks Sa pea nüüd tunnetama, kas jagada seda sõnumit suurtemate usuinimestega või kuidas), Meil siin õnneks Aivar Pahk ja veel mõned tõsisemad usumehed ka interdeemonite vahel surfates valgust jagamas kes seda Su juttu näha võivad, kuid peab olema julgust ka päris elus, kirikust kirikusse minekuks selliste siganaalide puhul, kui Sa mõistad, et ega see päris teaduslikult tavapärane olukord ole, ning tasub rääkimist, kui see usuasja, vaimumaailma olemasolu võimendab
(olgugi, et seletust ei leia... piisab ku iaru saadakse, et see võimalik on, paljudel vaja alles seda teada... ja eks trikke varuks mitmel Härjapõlvlasel ja ahjualusel kuid Sina kasuta seda selleks heaks, kuhu suunas süda ja tark mõistus kutsub, kui arumõistad julgustava kergendusega, et Jumal Su kõige parem sõber on)9 January 2016 12:18
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Asoo, ehk hoiatavad nad Lillade põletava Tule eest, kes vargsi nagu öösel tulevad... vot peab uurima seda asja,9 January 2016 12:18
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Nu jah, et kas siis värve valida oli kodus niipalju vaimuilmal,
pime ka, ega inimsilm siis oleks osanud seda õiget värvi validagi9 January 2016 12:06
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aga piibel ongi ju inimeseasjaks mõeldud, ega oravad suurt sest ei hooli, neil oma tarkus juba kasukall olemas,
Meil siin kupliall elementaarset vaja veel oma koha leidmiseks maaema ja kosmoseisa vahel leida (või mis iganes pidi need sood on, olenevalt kas Mormoon või juut või .. )9 January 2016 12:05
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eks sa proovi seda lugu skeptik.ee s küsida, nagu siiralt... vaataks mis nad vastavad, see oleks põnev9 January 2016 12:03
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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Ja lapsi, kuutöbiseid ega mäluhäiretega purjus või võõraid inimkülalisi ei käi läbi, kes oleks võinud seda teha eksju?9 January 2016 12:03
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(iroonia)9 January 2016 12:01
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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Jah Meelis Vesi, vaat oleks pool seitse hommikul, siis oleks normaalne,
(vaja ju siis inimestel ärgata ja valgust saada pimedal talvedel, siis mõistlik vaimudel neid süüdata inimeste tarvis... see oleks suht tavaline)9 January 2016 12:01
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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Niisama võib ju igast asju küsida, et mis see tähendab ja see..9 January 2016 11:57
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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Seda küll, aga kas Sul siis juhtus nii?9 January 2016 11:56
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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Kas Sinul nii juhtunud ? : )9 January 2016 11:56
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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See veel hea ja hoiatus, et suured võimud su ringis
Paha oleks võinud ju kohe kaardinast alustada..9 January 2016 11:55
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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Kas Sinul läks ?9 January 2016 11:54
Margus Meigo commented on Aiki Obermann's photo.
Tere kenna vahva äix-plix : ))
Vaatsin ,et juuksed puhta härmas, võid ette kujutada mida mu habe teeb selle ilamga :p
Vaatsin ,et juuksed puhta härmas, võid ette kujutada mida mu habe teeb selle ilamga :p
9 January 2016 11:52
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Kunder's post.
Group: Tutvus
Oh teid kenasi inimesi9 January 2016 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
true that
9 January 2016 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on Mina Olen Heiki's post.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Ilmselgelt, mul Sul siia pakkuda üks teine video vastu.. kui selle vaid üles leiaksin... kus minig kutt peaagu nutma hakkas, sest kala mille kätte võttis hakkas siputama9 January 2016 03:48
Margus Meigo commented on Igor Sõštšikov's post.
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Nu jah, mis seal tööl ikka joosta, ohutus nõuded, parem ikka käia9 January 2016 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on Mina Olen Heiki's post.
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muidugi algul vaatasin, et mikssee kala nii kiiresti ära suri.. et kas oli päris, kuid ju oli.,
Nõudmised ja maitse on huvitav:D9 January 2016 03:46
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oih, vaene kala9 January 2016 03:46
Margus Meigo commented on Reelika Lillepõld's post.
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(muidu kena inimene, ära pahakspane)9 January 2016 03:43
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Kuidas inimesed nii lühidalt ja ükskõikselt seda kõike teevad.. hmm9 January 2016 03:42
Margus Meigo commented on Reelika Lillepõld's post.
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Jutt Juttu küll aga millest?9 January 2016 03:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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kuulutus on ka originaalne ja pilt,
eriti tänapäeva "Kribage, igav on" ja siis suvalt peegli ees poosetades tehtud iphonega pilt, ... selliste peegli pildistajatel vist mingi sarnane isiksuse joon on, peaksnad omavahel kokku viima... tegelen selle uurimisega veel
kuid jah, edu südame klappimisel9 January 2016 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on Joel Soosilla's post.
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Sellel mehel päris suur ja tõsine süda,
Poleks arvanutki ,et nii tõsiseid tegelasi meil siin fb tutuvuste kaane vahell on!
asjalik9 January 2016 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on Janek Torrim's post.
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Sa tundub, et oled pulli ja naljamees ka :D9 January 2016 03:36
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
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Kuidas siis nii.. ikka selgitage ka milline igavus ja millist inavuse peletust soovite ei soovi.. kuidas muidu teame..
muidu aint pervod postkastitulevad .P9 January 2016 03:34
Margus Meigo commented on Reino Pihel's post.
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Kuidas Sul rahaboss vahepeal jäinud on juba, kas update saad tuua, palju kirju on ja millise suunaga naised jne?
Nimesi ära maini aga nii üldiselt, huvitav teada, kuna see mu huviala teada, kuidas inimesed käituvad ja mõtlevad ja tunnevad9 January 2016 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on Karin Rautsepp's post.
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Siin miskit head huumorit ja isiksust näha vähemasti9 January 2016 03:25
Margus Meigo replied to Marilyn Semtšišina's comment.
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Ei maailmaparandamine käib ikka teistest, sest maailm ei koosne mitte MINUST MINUST MINUST vaid ikka ülejäänud maailmast kelle sa pead omaks võtma kui omad õed-vennad ning keda aitad samamoodi nad soovid, et nad Sind aitaks
ja see on niigi elementaarne, et enda parandmaine on teatud faasid läbinud, kui juba selliste asjadega tegeled
Mis Sa selle "kah maailmaparandaja" all siis mõtlesid?
Ma arvan, et ma ringi liikunud rohkem kui enamus eesti ministrid ja nende linkide mõte oli nagu anda väikest vihjet, kus ja kuidas, et oleks jutuainet. Sa muidugi vaevusid vaatama, ega vist? Kuidas nii kiiresti oleksitki jõudnud.. .
See " peaksid iseendast hoopis alustama" on väga paha vanade kommunistide uue versiooni filosoofia, kus noori eraldatakse egoks, ja teisi kartma, et neid siis kergemini lammastena talitada saaks (sest siis nad järgivad massi ettenäidatud käitumisi ilma käsuta
(nagu peegli pildistamine, nii,et telefon näha jääks näiteks, mida nüüd üle ilma tehakse, arusaamata selle tagajärgi))9 January 2016 03:14
Margus Meigo replied to Marilyn Semtšišina's comment.
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Ma tegelen ette näitamisega inimestele, kuidas TEGELIKULT tutvusega tegeleda tuleb, ehk siis annad enda koha kas siis kirjas või netis olevat, millist iganes infot mis aitab inimestel natukene aimu saada Su tegemistest või olemistest, huumorimeelest või muust.
Mulle väga meeldiks teada, et mis Sul ei meeldi ,siis saab järgmine kord paremini teha.9 January 2016 02:34
Margus Meigo replied to Marilyn Semtšišina's comment.
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ei nu mis sa augud nüüd, : ) "soovitad" "soovitad" , selgita nüüd oma probleemi, pole eriti tervemõistuslik õhku visata midagi ja siis mitte selgitada miks. Eriti kui teine ilusti küsib.
Kui ma arvasin, et sul võlts pilt oli varem (oli vist Sinu pilt eks?) siis see oli põhjustel, et see nii ebaloomulik oli.. Sa sellest ajast saati nüüd pead vimma v?9 January 2016 02:32
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Esiteks ma olen NOOR mitte vanur, ja mis osas need asjad sodid siis on, huvitav kuulda.9 January 2016 02:28
Margus Meigo replied to Marilyn Semtšišina's comment.
Group: Tutvus
räägib neiu kes selfib ennast mobiiliga peegliees :D
Kas tahad, läheme koos?
Mul palju kodumaiseid ja rahvusvahelisi projekte ja üritus probleemsete noortega olnud9 January 2016 02:26
Margus Meigo replied to Marilyn Semtšišina's comment.
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Vaevalt, et nad pimekohtinguid pakuvad mis moodi nad mind aidata saavad?9 January 2016 02:24
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Tean, tegelen nende aitamisega ka9 January 2016 02:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Viimased uudised:
http://www.parnupostimees.ee/3432897/margus-meigo-kodutu-maailmaparandusminister
ja... hmm millega veel oma saba kergitada?
Neeh.. need vihjed pigem rohkem.http://www.parnupostimees.ee/3432897/margus-meigo-kodutu-maailmaparandusminister
9 January 2016 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Tutvus
Vana mina, Vaikse ookeani kohal kus pea neli aastat ka majandasin... http://www.rate.ee/show.php?id=35917http://www.rate.ee/show.php?id=35917
9 January 2016 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Tutvus
Majandamisi ka selliseid olnud: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580
ja
http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/silicon-roundabouts-not-for-him-meet-super-hacker-master-coder-and-bitcoin-boy-amir-taaki-in-his-9093228.html *(serveerisin Amirile teed selle interviu tgemise aegas :p )*
ja
.:.http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580
9 January 2016 01:56
Margus Meigo commented on Andrei Korobeinik's photo.
Oot sellega osta ikka ei saa onja..sest EU ei luba nationalistliku sümboolikat. (viisnurgad on muidugi okey, sest nõiakunst on viisnurga riikide ja organisatsioonide aluspõhi)
8 January 2016 23:06
Margus Meigo replied to Lucy Sablan's comment.
instead of charity send it to her nearest cousins to invoke love in them and them can send it to charity or places, family first
8 January 2016 22:37
Margus Meigo commented on Laura L. Post's post.
So yeah, religion part here is much more important then Russia vs USA part.
Do they already know, that most likelly their family did not die but keep living in many forms in additional worlds.. or they are atheists who think that when u r dead then ur dead
so they missing the deeper respect about funereal.
If You loe and human is good... then we keep going : )
kind of related: http://www.interpretermag.com/an-ethnic-russian-nation-does-not-exist-russian-nationalist-says/ (as a related country topic)
Do they already know, that most likelly their family did not die but keep living in many forms in additional worlds.. or they are atheists who think that when u r dead then ur dead
so they missing the deeper respect about funereal.
If You loe and human is good... then we keep going : )
kind of related: http://www.interpretermag.com/an-ethnic-russian-nation-does-not-exist-russian-nationalist-says/ (as a related country topic)
http://www.interpretermag.com/an-ethnic-russian-nation-does-not-exist-russian-nationalist-says/
8 January 2016 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on Laura L. Post's post.
candles, holy mother Mary pictures, something for spirits... flowers.. more candles... and for sure Your poem.. and also some American dollars, few hundred on 20 bills, would be nice,
This is not being cheap but just, this helps to pay for dead, as it can cost thousands of euros here as well, and that help is often god send, as people have to take that money from their children rent and food money, that is just on the border of nearly making it, for these who live good. But as human human value there is ordinary humans as You and me.
New Russian culture that has not so much to do anymore with original Finno-Ugric and shamanic, animistic cultures whose land it was, and is in most part with same values of likes, as USA, just a bit deeper, as being poor with religious touch makes you more deeper often (or drunk).
So in heart, anything to do , to pay attention to dead one with respect is great and good
and pay attention more then once, that would be good, for longer period of time.. not just once visit to respect as in movies, some..
This is not being cheap but just, this helps to pay for dead, as it can cost thousands of euros here as well, and that help is often god send, as people have to take that money from their children rent and food money, that is just on the border of nearly making it, for these who live good. But as human human value there is ordinary humans as You and me.
New Russian culture that has not so much to do anymore with original Finno-Ugric and shamanic, animistic cultures whose land it was, and is in most part with same values of likes, as USA, just a bit deeper, as being poor with religious touch makes you more deeper often (or drunk).
So in heart, anything to do , to pay attention to dead one with respect is great and good
and pay attention more then once, that would be good, for longer period of time.. not just once visit to respect as in movies, some..
8 January 2016 19:58
Margus Meigo commented on Sandra Ojasalu's post.
Group: Tutvus
Väga raske on leida inimesi kellega koos manga animeid vaadata, pole veel siiani leidnud8 January 2016 10:17
Margus Meigo commented on Sandra Ojasalu's post.
Group: Tutvus
Wau, see hea küsimus, pean selle küsimuse juurde kohe tagasi tulema hiljem (toimetan praegu ja peast peale Hayao Miyazaki materiali meelde ei tule, head asjad silme ees aga näe.. nimed eip tule meelde..)
Igast legendaarseid tõsielulised poistekaid nagu Ghost in the Shell ja Akira ( 80st, esimene Ameerikasse jõudev jaapani anime )
'The Tale of the Princess Kaguya pole veel vaadand aga peaks ka paljulubav olema kuna vana jaapani folk loo põhjal tehtud..
Muidugi siis veel on Princess Mononoke.. mis oli kohe väga väga hea, sest ei taandunud lääne "paha - hea" pooled osadesse, vaid näitas maailma laiemalt nagu see on
Kui mul endla meelest läheb pikemalt kirjutada, siis anna ise teada.
Meeles on üks hea seriaal Tokyo Ghol, see 24 lühikest osa mis aeglaselt karaktereid ehtiab ja kuni lopuni väga meeldivalt rahulikult arenev ja aegajalt sügavate maandumistega on,
teema tundub karm ja poster kole kuid tegelikult lugu on ilus mu arust8 January 2016 10:16
Margus Meigo commented on Liisbeth Michelson's post.
Group: Tutvus
ärge niisama laikige :D
Et mida see tähendab .. ma ei mõista8 January 2016 10:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Tutvus
oih.. see pold vist hea list mida näiteks tuua, sest väga suur hulk ühiskonnast arvab, et need vaimselt terved tegevused ja asjad :D
Kuid olen seda Eesti naiste endi väärtuse tõstmiseks kõigile ütlema hakanud kellele tundub väärt olema, st kellel tundub, et on võime aru saada sellest varem või hiljem, kui inimest ennast mõnitav see on,
10 a hiljem kõik vaatavad neid pilte ja irvitavad neid tehnolibusid (siinkohal sõna "libu" pole midagi pistmist sooga, vaid suhtes tehnoloogia ja selle kasutaja vahel)
Kindlasti pole plaanis solvata, noored ka .. aega ise avastada. Kuid parem kui siin korra öeldakse (avalikult, sest see mõeldud rohkem teistele kui Sinu enda pihta), selle asemel, et suure hulga vaikivate pilkude mahakandmisohriks saada tulevikus
seega palun ära võta isiklikult, kena päeva!8 January 2016 09:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Tutvus
Kuid ennast telefoni kaameraga koos pildile jätmine, on väga odav ja inimest alavääristav. Ei hakka sellese sügavalt süübima, kuid tegu on väga suure kiiksuga mis normaliseeritud, umbes nagu kontsakingad, nailon-plastik riided mis vene ajal olid ja suitsetamine8 January 2016 09:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Tutvus
Ning mina olin Facebookis juba siis kui enamus siinsetest inimestest veel ei teadnutki sellest kohast siin8 January 2016 09:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Tutvus
jah mul smasung c170 http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_c170-2010.php
600 KB mäluhttp://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_c170-2010.php
8 January 2016 09:52
Margus Meigo commented on Marite Komp's post.
Group: Tutvus
palun õppige kasutama taimerit või leitke ÜKS sõber või vanemad kes teist pilti teevad, täitsa häbi vaadata kui Eesti ilusad tüdrukud ka nagu ameerika plastik iphone reklaami babrdid koos telefonidega pildipeal on8 January 2016 09:47
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Good manners,
You should have answered with uplifting voice "Hey You little fuck, how is your mother?"
You should have answered with uplifting voice "Hey You little fuck, how is your mother?"
8 January 2016 09:45
Margus Meigo commented on Ross Wolfe's photo.
Luckilly Pääsuke, Pääsulind is getting away
8 January 2016 09:24
Margus Meigo commented on Michel Bauwens's post.
Group: P2P
you cant print everything8 January 2016 09:23
Margus Meigo replied to Jaanika Märdimäe's comment.
Group: Tutvus
tegelikult on nii, et kes lööb, on raske vaimse hälbega7 January 2016 08:43
Margus Meigo replied to Jaanika Märdimäe's comment.
Group: Tutvus
muidugi nii noored "eided" kes nii ropusti siin oma vittudest räägivad ja noh.. need tuleks üldiselt maha kanda :D7 January 2016 08:43
Margus Meigo replied to Jaanika Märdimäe's comment.
Group: Tutvus
jah, mida varem õige suhte leiadseda olulisem, siis ei pea enam stressama ja elu rikkuma igasugustega kes karja kaupa luurama asuvad sind, olenematta taichist7 January 2016 08:39
Margus Meigo commented on Pisike Siiri's post.
Group: Tutvus
Justustage jutustage.. aga millest?
Anna nagu suts suunda ka.. et ärgita huvi : )
Inimesed nii pealiskaudselt hallowd tänapäeval.. et nagu ennast avada üldse ei mõisteta... (eks muidugi nilbikute kari ole ka suur kes aukuma tulevad kohe kuid noh, need meie tugevndamiseks saadetud)7 January 2016 08:36
Margus Meigo commented on Mariliis Pallon's post.
Group: Tutvus
Väga hea manga põhine jaapani scifi teema oli mul, lyhiserjaal, kaks hooaega, aga nimi eip tule meelde..
japse ike vaaatad eks ?7 January 2016 08:33
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
ehehe, eks sõnad räägivad enda eest
7 January 2016 08:01
Margus Meigo commented on Piret FireFairy Meinberg's post.
mul oli toas miinus seitse, pidin ka teise pluusi selga panema ja lisa teki võtma magamiseks, et ööseks nina alles oleks :p
7 January 2016 07:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Cyberpunk
strange when people make in to fashion things that are so weak and unpractical and not usable7 January 2016 07:57
Margus Meigo commented on Bex Trista's post.
Group: Cyberpunk
yea but you can not see like that fro mone eye, what is the point7 January 2016 07:56
Margus Meigo commented on Katrin Puusepp's post.
Group: Tutvus
oh sind noort anarhisti6 January 2016 23:28
Margus Meigo commented on Arne Türkson's post.
Ma mõtlesin ,et köha ravitakse tundidega ikka mitte päevadega
6 January 2016 20:56
Margus Meigo commented on Arne Türkson's post.
Oleneb siirupist
6 January 2016 20:56
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Meie kõigi Jumala, ka nendega kellega võitlevad ja Moslemite eest, sest jumal on üks, kui päris jumalast rääkida
6 January 2016 20:50
Margus Meigo replied to Atma Kaljo's comment.
Ahnii
6 January 2016 20:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mu viimased sonumid siia otsa, olid juba mu enda meelest osaliselt liialt, kuid miskit tarka soovi selles ikka, ?
6 January 2016 07:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui eriti õpi neilt kes õpetavad, kuidas õigemini teha, sinna otsa eriti väärt oskused on oskused millised iganes koos hea südamega, hea sooviga, või hea arusaamaga
6 January 2016 07:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
maailm kus Sa elad tunneteta inimeste keskel.. või kus neid tunnetega inimesi vähem ja vähem Su ümber on peaks olema VÄGA suur hoiatus sulguva ringi ees... et tuelb muuta.. ja ära arva, et sa nüüd suvatsedes üksi puhuma hakata, aidates enne valele massile ja lainele kaas,a et sa üksi õiges suunas puhuma hakates, oletades õiget suunda.. sa nüüd jõe kohe teisimoodi ,enda kasuks tööle peaksid saama panna... kuid parem jääda takistava kõrkjana paigale... kui vale vooluga veelgi kaasa minnes ja kaasa tõmmates teisi oma minekuga, sest sina ise oled õpetuseks teistele ja sina ise peaksid õppima parimatelt, ja parimad on Su ümber, pea kõik. KA need kes õõpetavad kuidas mitte teha
6 January 2016 07:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
peab olema päris ohmoon, nende asjade olemasolu kahtlemises.
Kunagi ehk kohustuslik ravi sellistele seatakse, kes kahtlevad kas olla head.
Kuid jah.. minul endal oli vabakutseline, vabatahlik külastus vist, mõnes mõttes... kuid päris mõeldamatu oleks, kui see keha siin lõplikult otsa saab koos kõikide teiste paraleel kehade ja unenägude maailma varjantidega, (mis muideks kahanevad tihinal, kui sa ei laienda headust... isegi siis kahaneda saavad kui laiendad headust, kuid siis võimalus uus parv valmis saada vähemalt, õigeks ajaks ja kellegi teise laevani ulpida...)
Osa pehmem versioon, porgust on ka elamine sellises maailmas, kus oled TEISE võõra mehe teenimiseks sunnitud tegema asju mida loodus e inõua või mis muidu, suures plaanis ilmselgelt tunduvad ebavajalikud, eba parimad või orjanduslikud ilma mõnuta seda kõike täita... ja selles pehmes põrgus siin... kui kuulekalt ja õigesti ei käitu... siis... siis saab ikka päris kurb meel mul olema, mõeldes, mis siis saab, meist
Kunagi ehk kohustuslik ravi sellistele seatakse, kes kahtlevad kas olla head.
Kuid jah.. minul endal oli vabakutseline, vabatahlik külastus vist, mõnes mõttes... kuid päris mõeldamatu oleks, kui see keha siin lõplikult otsa saab koos kõikide teiste paraleel kehade ja unenägude maailma varjantidega, (mis muideks kahanevad tihinal, kui sa ei laienda headust... isegi siis kahaneda saavad kui laiendad headust, kuid siis võimalus uus parv valmis saada vähemalt, õigeks ajaks ja kellegi teise laevani ulpida...)
Osa pehmem versioon, porgust on ka elamine sellises maailmas, kus oled TEISE võõra mehe teenimiseks sunnitud tegema asju mida loodus e inõua või mis muidu, suures plaanis ilmselgelt tunduvad ebavajalikud, eba parimad või orjanduslikud ilma mõnuta seda kõike täita... ja selles pehmes põrgus siin... kui kuulekalt ja õigesti ei käitu... siis... siis saab ikka päris kurb meel mul olema, mõeldes, mis siis saab, meist
6 January 2016 07:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
edasi arenedes, olukorrad on osad samad ja osad muutunud ja andeks andmise reeglid osad samad ja osad muutuvad kuni surmani, et me vanaks ei jääks ja teaksime ennast erksana hoida, ehk elusana
6 January 2016 07:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis on veel elementaarne, punk A viib punkt B ni...
kui järjekindlalt vales suunas edasi minna (järjekindel vale suund on ka siis, kui näpuotsaga valet vahest teed meelega, ennast juba ette välja vabandades sellest, uskudes ülbelt, et sulle alati ilma tagajärjeta andeks antakse sama lihtsalt)
kui järjekindlalt vales suunas edasi minna (järjekindel vale suund on ka siis, kui näpuotsaga valet vahest teed meelega, ennast juba ette välja vabandades sellest, uskudes ülbelt, et sulle alati ilma tagajärjeta andeks antakse sama lihtsalt)
6 January 2016 07:37
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's photo.
Olles ka sutsu käinud põrgus ja rääkinud nendega kes maitsta põrgu eri varjante... ning ühendades seda inimpiiridesse ulatuvate kaasaja arusaamadega, saame öelda, et suures osas on põrgu need kohad kuhu inimene siis ennast ise viib mis on kellegi teise olendite pärusmaa, ehk siis asi pole niivõrd karistuses kui võrd on maiselt hoiatatud kohad kust soovitatud eemal olla mille taga on reaalsed süsteemid (nii aja augud, liigi katsetus laborid, kõikvõimalikud muud tulnukate ja olendite pärusmaa kes teevad oma tööd või oma kuritööd ning kellele ette sattudes saad ainult pahat õnne või ennast süüdistada kuni siis päris traditsioonilise põrgu kirjelduseni välja, kus juba nooruses sai käidud, mis koosneb sõõrmetest okastena läbi rebivast tulest mida sisse hingad ja aja puudusest ning koledast irvitavast traditsioonilise kurja taolisest mollist kelle emotsioon sinu suhtes piirdub "raisk sain su siia" ja "ise oled süüdi, et siin oled" vahepeaalse korduv irvitusega)
Ja see kõik juhtus ammu enne seda kui ma piiblit lugema julgesin hakata või postiivselt usu osas mõtlema hakata avalikult.
Seega ei saa siin kehtida traditsiooniline teadlaste "nu fantaseerivad yhte ja sama kolli lugu ja siis saavad selle kätte keemilises meeltesegaduses mida aju lähima tuttava pildina tõlgendab paanikasse minnes...pla pla"
Kuid jah, et suures osas, kui see vormitu ajatu tules olemine välja jätta, on need ohut ja valud mille eest hoiatatakse, mitte karistused ainiti vaid eelkõige lihtsalt tulemused mis juhtub valele pärusmaale minnes.
Nõiteks kui Sa suure Niva kombaini ette kõnnid siis e itasu süüdistada ei masinat ega juhti... ja kindlasti mitte nende loojat, pahas... ja kui astud nedne peresse, kes võtnud tööks maha lüüa neid kes neile ei meeldi, alates ülbetemast ja lollimatest ning veel tõstad nina ka nende enda õuel, teadmatagi, et see pole SINU õue.. siis ka ei tasu imestada, et ned olendid veel ehitavad Sulle.... või kui satud nende hammaste vahele kes tegelevatki pahaga otseselt, kuid satud sinna, sest eirasid suuri silte "ära mine" kuidas siis saad süüdistada kedagi kõike loojat, selles, et Sina ise näpud pistsid kuhugi kus ei ole hea?
Lihtsalt nii kuuli jooksutab kinni midagi nii arulagedat, kui tullakse esile .... jutuga, kus "aga kui ta niiiii armastav on, miks ta siis seda mulle teeb kui ma eksin.."
... miks miks... lisaks muudele seadustele, vaimsetele ja füüsilistele, kultuurilistele ja... vaja tal veel õpetada Loodusseadusi ka sulle, sest ega Sa muidu ei saa paradiisis ka ringi konnata kui sa elementaarseid pire ja erinevas astmes austusi pole selgeks viitsinud õppida, sest siis varem või hiljem astud vale sisaliku saba peale... ja seda juba ette nähakse ära SINU kõige väiksematest siinsetest vigadest.. ja lastakse sul siin ringiratast käia, valus pealt vaadata.. aga ei saa paati võtta neid kes salaja ikkagi aegajalt kuskil tuld hakkavad tegema võiõi valesi liigikaaslasi sööma.
Või kellel vaja ennast lõõgastada igasuguste tegevuste või kiimadega. Ja ammugi neid pole vaja kes vanurite ja naiste osas pole austust sügavamat suutnud omistada, sellised lähevad haklihaks, või nagu A Rühm tabavalt ütles ühes kuulsas poplaulus: Ümbernikkumisele.
Tere hommikust ja head, tunneuslikumat uut aastat!
Ja see kõik juhtus ammu enne seda kui ma piiblit lugema julgesin hakata või postiivselt usu osas mõtlema hakata avalikult.
Seega ei saa siin kehtida traditsiooniline teadlaste "nu fantaseerivad yhte ja sama kolli lugu ja siis saavad selle kätte keemilises meeltesegaduses mida aju lähima tuttava pildina tõlgendab paanikasse minnes...pla pla"
Kuid jah, et suures osas, kui see vormitu ajatu tules olemine välja jätta, on need ohut ja valud mille eest hoiatatakse, mitte karistused ainiti vaid eelkõige lihtsalt tulemused mis juhtub valele pärusmaale minnes.
Nõiteks kui Sa suure Niva kombaini ette kõnnid siis e itasu süüdistada ei masinat ega juhti... ja kindlasti mitte nende loojat, pahas... ja kui astud nedne peresse, kes võtnud tööks maha lüüa neid kes neile ei meeldi, alates ülbetemast ja lollimatest ning veel tõstad nina ka nende enda õuel, teadmatagi, et see pole SINU õue.. siis ka ei tasu imestada, et ned olendid veel ehitavad Sulle.... või kui satud nende hammaste vahele kes tegelevatki pahaga otseselt, kuid satud sinna, sest eirasid suuri silte "ära mine" kuidas siis saad süüdistada kedagi kõike loojat, selles, et Sina ise näpud pistsid kuhugi kus ei ole hea?
Lihtsalt nii kuuli jooksutab kinni midagi nii arulagedat, kui tullakse esile .... jutuga, kus "aga kui ta niiiii armastav on, miks ta siis seda mulle teeb kui ma eksin.."
... miks miks... lisaks muudele seadustele, vaimsetele ja füüsilistele, kultuurilistele ja... vaja tal veel õpetada Loodusseadusi ka sulle, sest ega Sa muidu ei saa paradiisis ka ringi konnata kui sa elementaarseid pire ja erinevas astmes austusi pole selgeks viitsinud õppida, sest siis varem või hiljem astud vale sisaliku saba peale... ja seda juba ette nähakse ära SINU kõige väiksematest siinsetest vigadest.. ja lastakse sul siin ringiratast käia, valus pealt vaadata.. aga ei saa paati võtta neid kes salaja ikkagi aegajalt kuskil tuld hakkavad tegema võiõi valesi liigikaaslasi sööma.
Või kellel vaja ennast lõõgastada igasuguste tegevuste või kiimadega. Ja ammugi neid pole vaja kes vanurite ja naiste osas pole austust sügavamat suutnud omistada, sellised lähevad haklihaks, või nagu A Rühm tabavalt ütles ühes kuulsas poplaulus: Ümbernikkumisele.
Tere hommikust ja head, tunneuslikumat uut aastat!
6 January 2016 07:35
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
Do You mean all at once?
Are You alright mate?
Are You alright mate?
6 January 2016 07:04
Margus Meigo commented on Vesilemb Millimallikas's post.
Group: Lame Maa (FLAT EARTH ESTONIA)
nu meil väga tithi ikka päike ja kuu on koos taevas.. meeldiv... müelda, et teistel enamasti siis pole kumbagi :p6 January 2016 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on Vesilemb Millimallikas's post.
Group: Lame Maa (FLAT EARTH ESTONIA)
Muidugi ma seda asja oma silmaga paraleelmaailmades reisinud hoopis omamoodi näinud, kuid kunagi pole seda ümmargusena näinud5 January 2016 22:28
Margus Meigo commented on Vesilemb Millimallikas's post.
Group: Lame Maa (FLAT EARTH ESTONIA)
Ühesõnaga me siis Noa laevas mis nagu ketas_?5 January 2016 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on Vesilemb Millimallikas's post.
Group: Lame Maa (FLAT EARTH ESTONIA)
hidamatud vastused5 January 2016 22:25
Margus Meigo replied to Kati Saara Vatmann's comment.
kõik banaanid, kartulid ja vesi oli külmunud, toas oli meeldiv vaikus...
5 January 2016 21:40
Margus Meigo replied to Kati Saara Vatmann's comment.
OJAA, eriti kuna mul toas juba eile miinus viis oli :D
5 January 2016 21:39
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Good to know
5 January 2016 14:01
Margus Meigo commented on Barry Hammond's post.
Group: Men's Rights Movement
but yea.. my mother also, feed us before .. but not just on breast time... it applies to common decadency.. as eating it self is intimate thing..5 January 2016 13:59
Margus Meigo replied to Barry Hammond's comment.
Group: Men's Rights Movement
smart mother5 January 2016 13:58
Margus Meigo commented on Barry Hammond's post.
Group: Men's Rights Movement
Yeah
who turned the nipple in to sexual object anyway,
no one fuck a nipple
okey, boobfk is a section in porn sites, not that i know the address i just telling.. there is the ones who just cant get all that satisfaction from all the old good face-fucking,
as they call them self "motherfucker" after all and how else to express their inner confused feelings.. .. so ...
a bit sidetracked, but someone turned the books in to sexual things when they are just as nice as hair and ears etc
just physically one of the most comfortable parts of human body, more then a butt, but besides that.. i would probably approve to de sexualize breasts so there can be free boobs all around the plates5 January 2016 13:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: Men's Rights Movement
i mean, publicly5 January 2016 13:53
Margus Meigo commented on Barry Hammond's post.
Group: Men's Rights Movement
something about, that kids are allowed to eat as well as everyone else are... eating... so it should be normal
and generally i think i might approve that message
specially as She does not have children, it might be pressure to make pro children and pro traditional family message like that5 January 2016 13:52
Margus Meigo commented on Barry Hammond's post.
Group: Men's Rights Movement
really strange.. as she is not a mother.. what DOES She say ?5 January 2016 13:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ema lõpuks otsustas "aitab küll, hakka nüüd ise elama"
5 January 2016 12:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ega ise jäid hiljaks oma südimisega päeva :p
5 January 2016 12:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu ei jaksa
5 January 2016 12:02
Margus Meigo commented on Kert Pallo's post.
Head Sünnipäeva :)
5 January 2016 12:01
Margus Meigo commented on Vladimir Gantsovski's post.
Et kas polegi nii Vaba..
5 January 2016 06:03
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Altau's post.
for so powerful machine like Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia has.. the truth about these kind of things has little effect,
and choosen effect BY Russia, they will decide, how we make people react about it in Russia and if needed outside, and do we turn this Duck news to something that benefiits us or to make it something that hurts someone else and benefiits us a lot
people really have not get an idea how hight level they messing with
and choosen effect BY Russia, they will decide, how we make people react about it in Russia and if needed outside, and do we turn this Duck news to something that benefiits us or to make it something that hurts someone else and benefiits us a lot
people really have not get an idea how hight level they messing with
5 January 2016 05:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and from the spiritual interference point of view we can see that this message is not initiated by You Mark
5 January 2016 05:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but it is good to have it as extra and reminder to US what WE must do.. .. so to like push humans to get smarter... like robottelling u @hey you have not clean ur room ur self long time.. hey u have not wash your kid proper ... hey u have not kissed ur wife deep enough for long time .. etc, then there is value the highest
5 January 2016 05:47
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's post.
Make sure to focus also on children and wife like rest of the world was build for so far.. as this is proper AI ... if we fail to learn to clean our own house and wipe our own but then the AI will start to run us. This is serious problem and human brain needs it if want to stay advanced.
5 January 2016 05:45
Margus Meigo commented on Eliise Voitka's post.
Group: Tutvus
Lisa lisa3 January 2016 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on Meija-Meely Hiller's post.
Group: Tutvus
tasub ettevaatlik olla...3 January 2016 23:52
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
Awwww!
3 January 2016 23:50
Margus Meigo commented on Ahto Muld Muld's photo.
Karmid sõnad, ma nüüd ei saagi aru, kas siis Pruuli on hea asja teinud või Ahto just selgitas, miks see üritus läbikukkunud on.
Ning kas See raamat on üldse suur-naist toetav või mitte? Kas te ise toetate, inimesena?
Kumb teist targem on kas Kalle ja Pruuli või Juku ja Ahto ?
Ei no päriselt, kes teist PÄRISELT on intelligentsem, andekam, parema südamega ja Eestimeelselt targem ning julgelt mehelikum ?
Et vastake nüüd ausalt, tark ennast ikka ära tunneb ja kui oskate siis lisage lausega juurde ka enda ja teise põhjendus.
Kes esimesena laseb, on julgem.
Ning kas See raamat on üldse suur-naist toetav või mitte? Kas te ise toetate, inimesena?
Kumb teist targem on kas Kalle ja Pruuli või Juku ja Ahto ?
Ei no päriselt, kes teist PÄRISELT on intelligentsem, andekam, parema südamega ja Eestimeelselt targem ning julgelt mehelikum ?
Et vastake nüüd ausalt, tark ennast ikka ära tunneb ja kui oskate siis lisage lausega juurde ka enda ja teise põhjendus.
Kes esimesena laseb, on julgem.
3 January 2016 22:21
Margus Meigo commented on Isira Asela Dissanayake's post.
but u self look good ,
even good for movie
even good for movie
3 January 2016 17:34
Margus Meigo commented on Isira Asela Dissanayake's post.
and strange coals people have in life ... for sure
3 January 2016 17:34
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
@Thank You@ for sharing
3 January 2016 17:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Aja Aeglustamise Ühing
Kuid hoian oma kogemusi veel varukas, loeks te omi ja siis ehk oskaks enda omi sõnadesse sättida paremini3 January 2016 14:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Aja Aeglustamise Ühing
st. minu tunnetuse järgi aeg ei liigu, vaid me liigume ajas ja seda muutust matemaatikaliselt, füüsilise kosmose mootori põhjal mõõtes tõlgendamegi kui aega,3 January 2016 14:42
Margus Meigo commented on Hans Kalts's post.
Group: PUNK ROCK ESTONIA
ma sellelt ta viimaselt peopl eelmine kuu pidin ära tulema pettusega, sest kõik lurpisid ainult delikaatselt õlut ja keegi ei jaganud isegi kanepit mitte,
triiksärkides viisakad noormehed ja tudengi-teismelise vahepeal olevad neiud suures osas siidriga muusika taktis rivis õõtsumas... vistoli 5-7 naist saali peale kes pungisemad olid, ühel kena tagi ka... kuid muidu... suht arusaamatu oli.. et miks nii steriilne3 January 2016 13:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: PUNK ROCK ESTONIA
need, kes siin automaatselt ja inimabil suurtes keskustes inimeste profiile tagivad valitsuse andmebaasi tarvis, tagitakse grupiliselt ja juhuliselt ning siis tägi tõe tõenäosus on see kui mitu profiili uuriat on sarnase hinnangu andnud,
et lihtsalt tavaline systeem mida automaatse aktiivsete inimeste andmebaasi tarvis pidevalt tehakse, baasid mis väljaspool "andmekaitse" seadust3 January 2016 13:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: PUNK ROCK ESTONIA
Huvitam millise psüholoogilise profiili siit kokku paneb3 January 2016 13:29
Margus Meigo commented on Merili Matto's post.
Group: Tutvused:)
Wau, 14 juba juba nii asjalik, mõelda viad kuidas 23 oled kui mehed selleks ajaks ära ei riku3 January 2016 10:27
Margus Meigo replied to Kristjan Jegorov's comment.
Group: Tutvused:)
julge pealehakkamine on kolmveerand võitu3 January 2016 10:26
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
As the spirit channnels are open in them.. they in often are here to teach us..
3 January 2016 09:19
Margus Meigo commented on Tahiry Ndrianalinaivo's photo.
You need more life in to Your face, right now it looks dead for westerners
3 January 2016 09:17
Margus Meigo commented on Helena Järv's post.
Group: Tutvused:)
Ahjaa, ette muidu hoiatan, et ole ettevaatlik viisnurga, pentagrammi kandmistega, sest nende läbi saab inimestele ligi vaimselt, maagiliselt... ja allutada... lisaks paha asja promomisele.
Kõik need suvalised ajalehe reklaamid pop artistide viisnurkadega isegi on ohtlikud või siis märgid, kes millise show all töötab, "kelle heaks", kuid sellest ei räägita, tulnukate värk
see selleks, ma momendil ei oska seda hästi lahti veel seletada, just stay away :p (pentagrammidest, mis tähekeste sisse ennast peitnud)3 January 2016 09:01
Margus Meigo commented on Helena Järv's post.
Group: Tutvused:)
Wau, Kui ma vaid noorem oleks3 January 2016 08:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://youtu.be/utPkDP3T7R4
https://youtu.be/utPkDP3T7R4
3 January 2016 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://youtu.be/UcN7SGGoCNI
https://youtu.be/UcN7SGGoCNI
3 January 2016 00:33
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
I tell You, we need Matriarchy realization fast, the feminist way is to narrow, to small and to weak and not radical at all in highs that are needed in this world.
For example Sex should, is and will be only ONLY women's Right, newer ever mans thing to demand, This should be first basic rule against what if mistaken should be send to correction camps, at least.
I am serious, this is not an irony, and this is beautiful what i say if You are able to see it from correct point of view. As it is
For example Sex should, is and will be only ONLY women's Right, newer ever mans thing to demand, This should be first basic rule against what if mistaken should be send to correction camps, at least.
I am serious, this is not an irony, and this is beautiful what i say if You are able to see it from correct point of view. As it is
3 January 2016 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Matriarchy?
2 January 2016 21:20
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek J's photo.
(L)
2 January 2016 12:20
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Ei noh viisakas asi, seni kuni otseselt pole teada, et pedofiil või emakeppija oleks või naisepeksja, siis austuse saab ikka anda, olgugi, et lipsukandja
ja seega, nende tallalakkuja kes lipsukorda rakendavad. Kuna see inimväline süsteem ja kuna ta ise inimene, siis ta ei saa ka ise sellelpsukorra rakendaja olla.
.. ikka on inimene eks, karvase rinnaga ja puha.. igast jahipüssiga pilte tast netis...
Kuid jah, meie oma kikilpsumees on ikka ülekõige :p
Tuleb vaadata, et ta Meie mees NENDE sees, mitte nende mees, kes meilt.. sest MEIE peame ennast nägema kui neid, kes otseselt sõbrad nendele kes ameerikast kuni hiinani viisnurgad sirgeks teeb
ehk siis MEIE "tööriist" on Ameerikas, keda MEIE peame oskama kasutada nii kuidas vaja, läbi NENDE silmade, arvestades NENDE ja TEISTE silmavaadet. Kuid hoides oma Joont ja suunda
kui see oli mõistev mis rääkisin mõnedele, siis asi väärt
ja seega, nende tallalakkuja kes lipsukorda rakendavad. Kuna see inimväline süsteem ja kuna ta ise inimene, siis ta ei saa ka ise sellelpsukorra rakendaja olla.
.. ikka on inimene eks, karvase rinnaga ja puha.. igast jahipüssiga pilte tast netis...
Kuid jah, meie oma kikilpsumees on ikka ülekõige :p
Tuleb vaadata, et ta Meie mees NENDE sees, mitte nende mees, kes meilt.. sest MEIE peame ennast nägema kui neid, kes otseselt sõbrad nendele kes ameerikast kuni hiinani viisnurgad sirgeks teeb
ehk siis MEIE "tööriist" on Ameerikas, keda MEIE peame oskama kasutada nii kuidas vaja, läbi NENDE silmade, arvestades NENDE ja TEISTE silmavaadet. Kuid hoides oma Joont ja suunda
kui see oli mõistev mis rääkisin mõnedele, siis asi väärt
2 January 2016 12:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
For me for some reason it relates to relation of peace and love.
If there would be pentagram on it, would newer use it as main food plate
If there would be pentagram on it, would newer use it as main food plate
2 January 2016 10:09
Margus Meigo replied to David Dickson's comment.
Mulgikapsad is fine as well
2 January 2016 10:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Archive 2 of talk:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mein_Kampf/Archive_1
I do NOT think it is the second bestselling book in the world. However, it is often a bestseller in many Arab states. It has been a bestseller in PA controlled areas, Jordan, and was the number two best selling book in Turkey, recently.
Turkey isn't an Arab state. --86.135.217.213 02:12, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
I think what people are not saying but inferring is that "Mein Kampf" arabic translation is popular among arab muslims and muslims in general.
We should not be afraid of the truth. Neither should we hide facts. Otherwise we will be like those who re-write history to their own choosing. Simply stating facts cannot be construed as "hate" except by those who wish to hide the facts for their own political purposes. Origen 17:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Hitlers own nephew refused to receive royalties from the new publications of Mein Kampf, so why would you suggest that a Jew would seek to benefit from its sales? Clearly everyone ever related to it is ashamed of both it and the author.
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"Globalists vs Continentists"
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Kampf#Globalists_vs_Continentists
The Continentists believe that Hitler for his own lifetime would have been content with ruling merely Europe.
- This is speculation.
I should have marked/deleted this part but instead I added the following paragraph:
Fact however is, that the Wehrmacht attempted to conquer Africa and Eurasia as well.
A deletion would be the better solution, but even my attempt on clarifying this speculation gets reverted by certain users like Hongooi: "Wehrmacht fighting in Africa is irrelevant -- they were helping out Mussolini, not part of a grand plan; Eurasia because that's part of the USSR)"
This is -NOT- irrelevant for this discussion. It does not matter what might have been their goal or reason in your opionion. What matters is that they were conquering Africa and Eurasia thus Hitler was NOT content with ruling merely Europe as the quoted paragraph claims.
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I found Volume 2, 1925, Hard cover, written in german, It still has the dust cover which has a picture of Hilter. is this book worth anything?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mein_Kampf/Archive_1
I do NOT think it is the second bestselling book in the world. However, it is often a bestseller in many Arab states. It has been a bestseller in PA controlled areas, Jordan, and was the number two best selling book in Turkey, recently.
Turkey isn't an Arab state. --86.135.217.213 02:12, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
I think what people are not saying but inferring is that "Mein Kampf" arabic translation is popular among arab muslims and muslims in general.
We should not be afraid of the truth. Neither should we hide facts. Otherwise we will be like those who re-write history to their own choosing. Simply stating facts cannot be construed as "hate" except by those who wish to hide the facts for their own political purposes. Origen 17:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Hitlers own nephew refused to receive royalties from the new publications of Mein Kampf, so why would you suggest that a Jew would seek to benefit from its sales? Clearly everyone ever related to it is ashamed of both it and the author.
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"Globalists vs Continentists"
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Kampf#Globalists_vs_Continentists
The Continentists believe that Hitler for his own lifetime would have been content with ruling merely Europe.
- This is speculation.
I should have marked/deleted this part but instead I added the following paragraph:
Fact however is, that the Wehrmacht attempted to conquer Africa and Eurasia as well.
A deletion would be the better solution, but even my attempt on clarifying this speculation gets reverted by certain users like Hongooi: "Wehrmacht fighting in Africa is irrelevant -- they were helping out Mussolini, not part of a grand plan; Eurasia because that's part of the USSR)"
This is -NOT- irrelevant for this discussion. It does not matter what might have been their goal or reason in your opionion. What matters is that they were conquering Africa and Eurasia thus Hitler was NOT content with ruling merely Europe as the quoted paragraph claims.
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I found Volume 2, 1925, Hard cover, written in german, It still has the dust cover which has a picture of Hilter. is this book worth anything?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mein_Kampf/Archive_1
2 January 2016 10:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Talk in Wikipedia:
"Looking over this article, it seems like the vast majority of it is concerned with talking about different translations of it and its availability in various countries today and VERY little about the book itself. One would think that an article on 'Mein Kampf' would include an in depth analysis of the actual contents of the book.
Agree. It looks as if there has been an act of suppression of content of the actual book, in favour of the relative trivia of this translation and that translation. I doubt that this distracting tactic is used on most other book-related articles in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.99.194 (talk) 23:28, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
What are you insinuating? Irondome (talk) 23:46, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia isn't a place where books are analysed in depth, you are incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jewnited (talk • contribs) 16:02, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Still, I would assume that an article on a book in a supposed encyclopedia would focus more on the, well, book rather than whether it was received well in several countries or whether it's available or not. I don't think anyone's asking for an analysis of the book, just more content relevant to the book's material. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.83.247.165 (talk) 15:56, 1 June 2015"
"How influential was the book? article says it became popular after Hitler assumed power, i.e. "too late now". Books by (for example) US Presidents are often bestsellers, but rarely are they at all influential. It may be interesting to look and see that he wrote all the terrible stuff down, then went on to implement it, without assuming that there was any cause and effect. Perhaps the book had very little influence itself? It's not like anybody today ever reads and says "great read". Winston Churchill saying "no other book deserved more intensive scrutiny" is essentially making the same point in the other direction: the book did not receive the consideration it should have by many among "the allies""
"In "Sales and Royalties", in the table labeled "Sales of Dugdale abridgment in the United Kingdom", the total of the "Printed" column for all 6 years is 65,900, while the total for the "Sold" column is 91,828. How can there be more copies sold than were printed? Also the Royalties, Commission and Tax columns seem unnecessary"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mein_Kampf
"Looking over this article, it seems like the vast majority of it is concerned with talking about different translations of it and its availability in various countries today and VERY little about the book itself. One would think that an article on 'Mein Kampf' would include an in depth analysis of the actual contents of the book.
Agree. It looks as if there has been an act of suppression of content of the actual book, in favour of the relative trivia of this translation and that translation. I doubt that this distracting tactic is used on most other book-related articles in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.99.194 (talk) 23:28, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
What are you insinuating? Irondome (talk) 23:46, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia isn't a place where books are analysed in depth, you are incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jewnited (talk • contribs) 16:02, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Still, I would assume that an article on a book in a supposed encyclopedia would focus more on the, well, book rather than whether it was received well in several countries or whether it's available or not. I don't think anyone's asking for an analysis of the book, just more content relevant to the book's material. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.83.247.165 (talk) 15:56, 1 June 2015"
"How influential was the book? article says it became popular after Hitler assumed power, i.e. "too late now". Books by (for example) US Presidents are often bestsellers, but rarely are they at all influential. It may be interesting to look and see that he wrote all the terrible stuff down, then went on to implement it, without assuming that there was any cause and effect. Perhaps the book had very little influence itself? It's not like anybody today ever reads and says "great read". Winston Churchill saying "no other book deserved more intensive scrutiny" is essentially making the same point in the other direction: the book did not receive the consideration it should have by many among "the allies""
"In "Sales and Royalties", in the table labeled "Sales of Dugdale abridgment in the United Kingdom", the total of the "Printed" column for all 6 years is 65,900, while the total for the "Sold" column is 91,828. How can there be more copies sold than were printed? Also the Royalties, Commission and Tax columns seem unnecessary"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mein_Kampf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mein_Kampf
2 January 2016 09:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
What a fuck, just IGNORE what Hitler it self told about it and run mouth on it? Even Orwell 1984, are you serious, you should have been the smart one. I guess You also missed a point WHO invades our species.
ENGLAND WAS FORCED to Attack Germany BY FRANCE !!! Got it?
"Mein Kampf, in essence, lays out the ideological program Hitler established for the German revolution, by identifying the Jews and "Bolsheviks" as racially and ideologically inferior and threatening, and "Aryans" and National Socialists as racially superior and politically progressive. Hitler's revolutionary goals included expulsion of the Jews from Greater Germany and the unification of German peoples into one Greater Germany. Hitler desired to restore German lands to their greatest historical extent, real or imagined.
Due to its racist content and the historical effect of Nazism upon Europe during World War II and the Holocaust, it is considered a highly controversial book. Criticism has not come solely from opponents of Nazism. Italian Fascist dictator and Nazi ally Benito Mussolini was also critical of the book, saying that it was "a boring tome that I have never been able to read" and remarked that Hitler's beliefs, as expressed in the book, were "little more than commonplace clichés".
The German journalist Konrad Heiden, an early critic of the Nazi Party, observed that the content of Mein Kampf is essentially a political argument with other members of the Nazi Party who had appeared to be Hitler's friends, but whom he was actually denouncing in the book's content – sometimes by not even including references to them.
The American literary theorist and philosopher Kenneth Burke wrote a 1939 rhetorical analysis of the work, The Rhetoric of Hitler's "Battle", which revealed its underlying message of aggressive intent.
In March 1940, British writer George Orwell reviewed a then-recently published uncensored translation of Mein Kampf for the New English Weekly. Orwell suggested that the force of Hitler's personality shone through the often "clumsy" writing, capturing the magnetic allure of Hitler for many Germans. In essence, Orwell notes, Hitler offers only visions of endless struggle and conflict in the creation of "a horrible brainless empire" that "stretch[es] to Afghanistan or thereabouts". He wrote, "Whereas Socialism, and even capitalism in a more grudging way, have said to people 'I offer you a good time,' Hitler has said to them, 'I offer you struggle, danger, and death,' and as a result a whole nation flings itself at his feet." Orwell's review was written in the aftermath of the 1939 Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, when Hitler made peace with Russia after more than a decade of vitriolic rhetoric and threats between the two nations; with the pact in place, Orwell believed, England was now facing a risk of Nazi attack and the UK must not underestimate the appeal of Hitler's ideas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URqN0Iu64D4
ENGLAND WAS FORCED to Attack Germany BY FRANCE !!! Got it?
"Mein Kampf, in essence, lays out the ideological program Hitler established for the German revolution, by identifying the Jews and "Bolsheviks" as racially and ideologically inferior and threatening, and "Aryans" and National Socialists as racially superior and politically progressive. Hitler's revolutionary goals included expulsion of the Jews from Greater Germany and the unification of German peoples into one Greater Germany. Hitler desired to restore German lands to their greatest historical extent, real or imagined.
Due to its racist content and the historical effect of Nazism upon Europe during World War II and the Holocaust, it is considered a highly controversial book. Criticism has not come solely from opponents of Nazism. Italian Fascist dictator and Nazi ally Benito Mussolini was also critical of the book, saying that it was "a boring tome that I have never been able to read" and remarked that Hitler's beliefs, as expressed in the book, were "little more than commonplace clichés".
The German journalist Konrad Heiden, an early critic of the Nazi Party, observed that the content of Mein Kampf is essentially a political argument with other members of the Nazi Party who had appeared to be Hitler's friends, but whom he was actually denouncing in the book's content – sometimes by not even including references to them.
The American literary theorist and philosopher Kenneth Burke wrote a 1939 rhetorical analysis of the work, The Rhetoric of Hitler's "Battle", which revealed its underlying message of aggressive intent.
In March 1940, British writer George Orwell reviewed a then-recently published uncensored translation of Mein Kampf for the New English Weekly. Orwell suggested that the force of Hitler's personality shone through the often "clumsy" writing, capturing the magnetic allure of Hitler for many Germans. In essence, Orwell notes, Hitler offers only visions of endless struggle and conflict in the creation of "a horrible brainless empire" that "stretch[es] to Afghanistan or thereabouts". He wrote, "Whereas Socialism, and even capitalism in a more grudging way, have said to people 'I offer you a good time,' Hitler has said to them, 'I offer you struggle, danger, and death,' and as a result a whole nation flings itself at his feet." Orwell's review was written in the aftermath of the 1939 Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, when Hitler made peace with Russia after more than a decade of vitriolic rhetoric and threats between the two nations; with the pact in place, Orwell believed, England was now facing a risk of Nazi attack and the UK must not underestimate the appeal of Hitler's ideas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URqN0Iu64D4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URqN0Iu64D4
2 January 2016 09:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"While historians diverge on the exact date Hitler decided to forcibly emigrate the Jewish people to Madagascar, few place the decision before the mid 1930s. First published in 1925, Mein Kampf shows the ideas that crafted Hitler's personal grievances and ambitions for creating a New Order.
Historian Ian Kershaw points out that several passages in Mein Kampf are undeniably of a genocidal nature. Hitler wrote "the nationalization of our masses will succeed only when, aside from all the positive struggle for the soul of our people, their international poisoners are exterminated" and in another passage he suggested that "if at the beginning of the War and during the War twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the people had been held under poison gas, as happened to hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers in the field, the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain."
The racial laws to which Hitler referred resonate directly with his ideas in Mein Kampf. In his first edition of Mein Kampf, Hitler stated that the destruction of the weak and sick is far more humane than their protection. Apart from his allusion to humane treatment, Hitler saw a purpose in destroying "the weak" in order to provide the proper space and purity for the "strong" "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Kampf
Historian Ian Kershaw points out that several passages in Mein Kampf are undeniably of a genocidal nature. Hitler wrote "the nationalization of our masses will succeed only when, aside from all the positive struggle for the soul of our people, their international poisoners are exterminated" and in another passage he suggested that "if at the beginning of the War and during the War twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the people had been held under poison gas, as happened to hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers in the field, the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain."
The racial laws to which Hitler referred resonate directly with his ideas in Mein Kampf. In his first edition of Mein Kampf, Hitler stated that the destruction of the weak and sick is far more humane than their protection. Apart from his allusion to humane treatment, Hitler saw a purpose in destroying "the weak" in order to provide the proper space and purity for the "strong" "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Kampf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Kampf
2 January 2016 09:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
After becoming chancellor of Germany in 1933, Hitler began to distance himself from the book and dismissed it as "fantasies behind bars" that were little more than a series of articles for the Völkischer Beobachter and later told Hans Frank that "If I had had any idea in 1924 that I would have become Reich chancellor, I never would have written the book."[20]
There are currently six e-book versions of Mein Kampf available for sale. In 2014, two of these versions reached the 12th and 15th spots on the iTunes Politics and Current Events section. The same year a digital version of the book reached number one on the Amazon Propaganda and Political Psychology chart
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Strong man who does not feel shame of demolishing one self creation of shame
There are currently six e-book versions of Mein Kampf available for sale. In 2014, two of these versions reached the 12th and 15th spots on the iTunes Politics and Current Events section. The same year a digital version of the book reached number one on the Amazon Propaganda and Political Psychology chart
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Strong man who does not feel shame of demolishing one self creation of shame
2 January 2016 09:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You must be kidding me:
"Seventy years after Anne’s death, an academic and a French MP say the diary is public domain, despite objections from foundation set up by Otto Frank"
An academic and a French MP have said they will go ahead with plans to publish the diary of Anne Frank online on Friday, despite the organisation holding publication rights threatening legal action.
Olivier Ertzscheid, a lecturer at the University of Nantes, France, said the planned 1 January publication date in the diary’s original Dutch would be after the Diary of a Young Girl falls within public domain rules.
European copyright law dictates that a book become public domain on the first day of January 70 years after the author’s death.
Anne Frank died at the age of 15 in the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp in 1945. Between 12 June 1942 and 1 August 1944, she wrote her red-and-white checked diary charting the time she spent in hiding in an Amsterdam warehouse until three days before her family was betrayed.
Her diary is one of the primary pieces of literature detailing life in Nazi-era Europe, with more than 30 million copies sold since its first publication in 1947.
Ertzscheid, who describes himself as a activist when it comes to public domain, called the pushback against publication “appalling”, adding that works such as Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf will enter public domain on Friday.
The researcher had in October published on his website two French versions of the book, only to take them down after the Livre du Poche publisher sent a formal notice stating that copyright for translators was still in effect.
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/dec/31/anne-frank-foundation-fights-plans-publish-diary-online-1-january
Why Would anyone try to LIMIT the public domain... (besides money) ..i mean seriously?
Reminds me the point :
"3. Anne and her family were found when they were betrayed by someone—anonymous to this day—who knew where they were hiding.
German officers raided the building and made arrests on August 4, 1944. The arresting officer, Karl Silberbauer, later said he vividly remembered arresting the Franks, and even told Otto Frank, “What a lovely daughter you have.”"
"Seventy years after Anne’s death, an academic and a French MP say the diary is public domain, despite objections from foundation set up by Otto Frank"
An academic and a French MP have said they will go ahead with plans to publish the diary of Anne Frank online on Friday, despite the organisation holding publication rights threatening legal action.
Olivier Ertzscheid, a lecturer at the University of Nantes, France, said the planned 1 January publication date in the diary’s original Dutch would be after the Diary of a Young Girl falls within public domain rules.
European copyright law dictates that a book become public domain on the first day of January 70 years after the author’s death.
Anne Frank died at the age of 15 in the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp in 1945. Between 12 June 1942 and 1 August 1944, she wrote her red-and-white checked diary charting the time she spent in hiding in an Amsterdam warehouse until three days before her family was betrayed.
Her diary is one of the primary pieces of literature detailing life in Nazi-era Europe, with more than 30 million copies sold since its first publication in 1947.
Ertzscheid, who describes himself as a activist when it comes to public domain, called the pushback against publication “appalling”, adding that works such as Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf will enter public domain on Friday.
The researcher had in October published on his website two French versions of the book, only to take them down after the Livre du Poche publisher sent a formal notice stating that copyright for translators was still in effect.
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/dec/31/anne-frank-foundation-fights-plans-publish-diary-online-1-january
Why Would anyone try to LIMIT the public domain... (besides money) ..i mean seriously?
Reminds me the point :
"3. Anne and her family were found when they were betrayed by someone—anonymous to this day—who knew where they were hiding.
German officers raided the building and made arrests on August 4, 1944. The arresting officer, Karl Silberbauer, later said he vividly remembered arresting the Franks, and even told Otto Frank, “What a lovely daughter you have.”"
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/dec/31/anne-frank-foundation-fights-plans-publish-diary-online-1-january
2 January 2016 09:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Father:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWRBinP7ans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWRBinP7ans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWRBinP7ans
2 January 2016 09:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siis tuleb aint soojemat ja pikemat sügist küsida ja lühemat ja samakülma talve nagu vaja
2 January 2016 08:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Tutvus
Cärol Täheväli Ei tea Viktoria... mäci toodetega selfiad on juba tehnoloogia armastusest sammu üle läinud teises suunas kui minul plaan,
Võimas nimi ka,
Ma viisnurga foobik :p2 January 2016 08:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
st. et sellepärast kirjutasid, et tagasihoidlikum olla pool häbenevas õrnalt kohmetus rõõsas olukorras, ning inimestel siis selline asi õpetatud, et nad endas mingi vea välja mõtleks või leiaks ja siis selle suunas, sellega oma suurväärtuse samale joonele proovivad panna, et siis oma valgust mis ootamatult häbenema pani, mida keegi avastas, peita kiirelt, igaks juhuks, et liialt särama ei jääks...
kuid alati polegi vaja, kuid SInu puhul sobib, Sa räägitki sedasi topelt ja kõrval lisaks juurde , so its alright . )
kuid alati polegi vaja, kuid SInu puhul sobib, Sa räägitki sedasi topelt ja kõrval lisaks juurde , so its alright . )
1 January 2016 23:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thea Inno tagasihoidlikus on voorus ;)
1 January 2016 23:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui ma Sinu moodi välja näeks siis oleks positiivseks olemiseks juba ainuüksi sellepärast kergesti põhjust leida
1 January 2016 23:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
igati heas, õrnas mõttes
1 January 2016 23:08
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Sirge's comment.
Tänud, Sulle ka
1 January 2016 17:38
Margus Meigo replied to Moira Paulse's comment.
Greetings! Thank You, All the best To You also Moira ... well, for now i do not even have money to buy a food, so have to postpone a trip for some time.. but as soon we make it possible again
1 January 2016 17:38
Margus Meigo commented on Preili Kata's photo.
First Love or Wisdom, and then all the rest will fallow...
If we start with Joy... or Peace only.. we might end up crying
If we start with Joy... or Peace only.. we might end up crying
1 January 2016 17:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Ilusat uut teile ka
Muide, pean mainima, et kõikide kohtamisportaalide pealt kokku, pole keegi minuga veel kirjavahetusse astunud reaalselt, et ma .. ma küll arvasin ,et hipid ja habemed ja metsavanad on keelu alla pandud rooma võimu poolt siin maal kuid aga nii sellist vetot poleks osanutki, et nagu üldse mittemingisugust elulist, filosoofilist huvi isegi pole rääkimatta maailmaparandamisest.
Veider veider,
Kui jooks siis hakkaks uuesti jooma, see vanasti granteeris alati naisi1 January 2016 16:47
Margus Meigo commented on Janika Pikkat's post.
Group: tutvus 30+
Gert ma sooviks kunagi oma Avaliku Arvati projecti käima saades, Sinu arvuti pildifolderist korraliku galerii teha, sul ikka seda materiali jätkub1 January 2016 16:43
Margus Meigo commented on Janika Pikkat's post.
Group: tutvus 30+
Tundub, et Sina tead inimesi kelle käest võib LSD-25 te leida ja palju muud huvitavat pornost kuni sikliteni . )1 January 2016 16:25
Margus Meigo commented on Chris Pohl Uruguay's photo.
Would You send your daughter to date him ?
1 January 2016 15:23
Margus Meigo commented on Gabriela Lima's post.
To little sound of voice and to much metal on top of sound
1 January 2016 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Viil's post.
Group: Tutvused:)
ok1 January 2016 04:32
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hail1 January 2016 04:23
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Viil's post.
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Et nagu SS i vaadetega naist või.. ?1 January 2016 04:22
Margus Meigo replied to Maarja Hiiekivi's comment.
aitah Maarja
1 January 2016 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Waat kui hea, et ma kunagi automaatse uue aasta tervituse siia poole teele panin, muidu polekski oma mitte tähistamise hoos, mitut head vana sõpra-sõbrannat siin märkes kohanud :)
Meeldivusi veelkorra
Meeldivusi veelkorra
1 January 2016 02:14
Margus Meigo commented on Antonius Aleo's post.
Group: High IQ Dating (owned by the callidus society)
The rule of Love is: NO TESTING
... You can ask.. and do it later..31 December 2015 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on Antonius Aleo's post.
Group: High IQ Dating (owned by the callidus society)
Not like the cry but still.. truth in here31 December 2015 23:36
Margus Meigo commented on Antonius Aleo's post.
Group: High IQ Dating (owned by the callidus society)
True that!31 December 2015 23:36
Margus Meigo commented on Randy Myers's post.
Group: High IQ Dating (owned by the callidus society)
Pablo: yeah, IQ 150 + the list for Indian girl speaks for her self31 December 2015 23:33
Margus Meigo replied to Anne-Ly Pihlakas's comment.
Group: tutvus 30+
okey.. ma siis keeran otsa ringi..31 December 2015 22:19
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Ly Pihlakas's post.
Group: tutvus 30+
Suured Tõnud ilus inimene31 December 2015 22:19
Margus Meigo commented on Tiivi Tibins's post.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
assa siis peab ikka naise leidma, kasvõi sellise31 December 2015 16:56
Margus Meigo commented on Vana Ment's video.
this guy on 7:33 clearly does not know Our ancestors
31 December 2015 14:28
Margus Meigo commented on Enn Ojaste's post.
Group: Armastus♥♥
...kuid liialt palju viisnurki...31 December 2015 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
a seda open IDd kasutasin et CERNi lehele sisse saada, ignore that :D
29 December 2015 12:22
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
Here is some extra readings, from where You can find something You need Your travel to know another dimensions and plants and .. not just "philosophy" about it..
https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/7041807-margus-meigo
https://books.google.com/books?uid=115129512869223076962
https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/7041807-margus-meigo
http://amzn.com/w/2KP9ICLMUWL85 + Amazon Few Books from where You can find some Mark : )
https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/7041807-margus-meigo
https://books.google.com/books?uid=115129512869223076962
https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/7041807-margus-meigo
http://amzn.com/w/2KP9ICLMUWL85 + Amazon Few Books from where You can find some Mark : )
https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/7041807-margus-meigo
29 December 2015 12:10
Margus Meigo replied to Mark Zuckerberg's comment.
Here is some extra readings, from where You can find something You need Your travel to know another dimensions and plants and .. not just "philosophy" about it..
https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/7041807-margus-meigo
https://books.google.com/books?uid=115129512869223076962
https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/7041807-margus-meigo
http://amzn.com/w/2KP9ICLMUWL85 + Amazon Few Books from where You can find some Mark : )
https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/7041807-margus-meigo
https://books.google.com/books?uid=115129512869223076962
https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/7041807-margus-meigo
http://amzn.com/w/2KP9ICLMUWL85 + Amazon Few Books from where You can find some Mark : )
https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/7041807-margus-meigo
29 December 2015 12:10
Margus Meigo replied to Janika Pikkat's comment.
Group: tutvus 30+
et selles osas, et ei saada v?27 December 2015 04:49
Margus Meigo replied to Galina Ader's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Kuid veel jääb mõista, on see hästi27 December 2015 04:41
Margus Meigo replied to Galina Ader's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Alati Galina, alati27 December 2015 04:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tõsi Tõsi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGmHqF4f1Hw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGmHqF4f1Hw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGmHqF4f1Hw
27 December 2015 04:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid muidugi nüüd kui seda vaadata relgioose müstilise sümboolse filmina (alates läbi masoonse maski rääkivast mustast saturni relgiooni weiderist (kes sümboliseerib ka kõiki teisi mustade kuubidega inimesi kohtunikest kuni kolledzi lõpetajateni...))
27 December 2015 01:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid mida saturni kummardajatelt oodata
27 December 2015 01:13
Margus Meigo commented on Kaupo Raam's post.
Group: tutvus 30+
Suhtealused on paigas vähemalt mees teab mis mees tahab,
suurem osa niisama kraatsib kukalt27 December 2015 01:10
Margus Meigo commented on Karin Hansalu's post.
Group: tutvus 30+
Väga ilus oled27 December 2015 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on Janika Pikkat's post.
Group: tutvus 30+
Vääga Väga õige . )27 December 2015 01:04
Margus Meigo replied to Imre Väin's comment.
võib olla küll
27 December 2015 00:59
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
kivi on alati kena :p
26 December 2015 17:08
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
ega need kõi kei müü siis, päris paljud niisama soovivad, kuid nõudeks on noortel naistel, et mees peab suhtes olema... muidu keppi ei saa...26 December 2015 16:48
Margus Meigo replied to Ville Pak's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
proffide värk
kuid tegelikult aus mees, otsekohene, kui tõsitaga siis nagu on tegelikult supper, sellises selguses inimesed26 December 2015 16:47
Margus Meigo replied to Ville Pak's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Sõidad ralli ?26 December 2015 16:46
Margus Meigo replied to Ville Pak's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
jeerum, lugesin alguses "Ville Pauk" et eriti potensikas nimi oleks :p26 December 2015 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on Marcella Luide's post.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Nu näed, jäingi siin oma võimalusest üle, Ville till pikalt pikalt ees :p
(taliolümpia vihje)26 December 2015 16:45
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Kui Sinu mehe keegi plika teelt kõrvale meelitab ja siis ütleb sulle seda sama, et "Mida naine vöi mees ise oma kehaga teevad,on nende oma asi"
...et siis nõustud?
Mooduseid on palju palju... väike osa ainult kuulutab... võrke on igalpool, kellel tundub väärtusi või kurbust, või puudusi ja väärtusi olema26 December 2015 16:43
Margus Meigo commented on Marcella Luide's post.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Muidugi siinkohal , see ei tähenda, et naiste harimise, oma tütarde ja sõbrannade harimise peaksime ära lõpetama.. sest see veelgi olulisem.. et nad ikka oskaks valida isaseid ja iga kiimaga iga ossiga ei vajuks linadevahele, süüdimatu mehega, keda tõesti ei saa süüdistada, sest kui ajus vereringe langeb siis eriti midagi suurt muud seal ei mõtet ei tule... ja suur osa mehi täeisti relvitud nagunii õige naise ees... seega jah...
lihtsalt, mees ei tohiks kunagi põgeneda, ... nagu äpu, vaid õppima KUI suur vastutus on naine, ja Kingitus26 December 2015 16:23
Margus Meigo commented on Marcella Luide's post.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Rahu, Rahu : )
(Naised on kaunid... kuid mehed ei taha... enne kui pole nmeid...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnCAjMELpic26 December 2015 16:17
Margus Meigo replied to Silver Kiviselg's comment.
Group: tutvus 30+
eriti hea versioon26 December 2015 16:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
rohkem26 December 2015 16:09
Margus Meigo commented on Marcella Luide's post.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
mehel on mõistlikum ja targem vastutus enda peale võtta sest naine süüdistab ennast ja tunneb valu nagunii26 December 2015 16:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
ja kaitseolekus olek võib ka muututa meditsiiniliseks, eluvormiks... reaalsuseks... kuid selleks peaks olemagi, head mehed ja naised ümber kes alati kui "ussi" näed, siis vana eestlaslikult räägid paari sõnaga mis elu on, ilma kartmata salvamise osas26 December 2015 15:59
Margus Meigo commented on Marcella Luide's post.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
naistel valetamine pidi olema kaitsereaktsioon, bioloogilisel tasemel peaaegu26 December 2015 15:58
Margus Meigo replied to Odin Romulus's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Odin saan aru mis mõtled, kuid ikagi asi ulatub sinna tagasi... et kunagi oli mees kes naise õnnetuks tegi.. ja see naine kasvatas õnnetu ja mitte teadliku naistütre üles... kes omakorda mehe võis õnnetuks teha või siis tollest mitte aru saada, isegi kui mees on hea
Kuid kui jah, ehk oli see vabasuhte kokkulepe neil ja siis järsku laps... igaljuhul, patuelu palk, usklikuna vaadates, ja naiselikuna vaadates, tuleb armastusega elu vastu võtta26 December 2015 15:57
Margus Meigo replied to Odin Romulus's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
ja siis kes selle vastutuse endale võtab.. naine allub armastusele, kohustus uskuda meest kui to ütleb et armastab.. ja siis mehel kas pole vastutust mida ta teeb?
Vastutust mida naine talle annab26 December 2015 15:55
Margus Meigo replied to Odin Romulus's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
neitsik pole ammu enam süütu kui tal nibud juba paistes on...26 December 2015 15:54
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Mar Cel La Sügavalt, Siiralt26 December 2015 15:52
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Mina ka :)26 December 2015 15:52
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Inglismaal ma ei saanud üldse suud lahti teha, pidevalt arvati et ma üli seksuaalne kuigi ma kogu nende anarhistide pundist kõikse religioosem inimene
st, et ma viisakas lihtsalt, kuid olulised asjad peavad paigas olema (või seljast, jalast ära)
Ja juuksevärv on ka see mis meie keha ise teeb, see mis päriselt on, see on ilus sest on Elus : )
Naised ise ka sama asju rääkima asunud: mytinysecrets.com/the-magical-powers-of-your-hair/http://mytinysecrets.com/the-magical-powers-of-your-hair/
26 December 2015 15:45
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
niiet ära seda kuidagi isiklikult võta ega seksuaalselt kui ma kohe koos mantliga ka rinnahoidjatest Sind vabastan,
Mr. Boobliberator
lihtsat proovime looduse ja uniseversumiga koos samas taktis tiksuda... 42 Hz vist ol isee...26 December 2015 15:44
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
ma suur juusterikkumise, tikkontsade, rinnahoidjate ja igast muude ühiskonna pahede poikoteeria mida roomlased meile kaela määrinud oma homokultuuriga kus neil silutud poisse reas meeldis vaadata ja samal ajal pügasid maarahva juuksed ära, et neil vaimuühendus nõrgem oleks,
lisaks igast muudele kiiksudele26 December 2015 15:43
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
(sorry:D)26 December 2015 15:41
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
nu poest võib igast asju osta ja endale pähe määrida kuid ega sellel midagi Su juustevärviga pistmist pole26 December 2015 15:41
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Hmm... kui tallinnas oleksid siis saaksime koos kartulit ja kapsast keeta täna
ma siin Tallinnas ikka pole veel suutnud ühtki naist välikäimlaga ära võluda26 December 2015 15:40
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
mis see pood su juustevärvisse puutub ;D26 December 2015 15:39
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
näääh26 December 2015 15:38
Margus Meigo replied to Ago Piirmets's comment.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
leidlik : )26 December 2015 15:36
Margus Meigo replied to Eva Korkma's comment.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
äitah26 December 2015 15:36
Margus Meigo replied to Kristiina Pärk's comment.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
miks mitte, vagusi tõmmata, kui ühe veel leian kolmandaks siis saan saata Sulle, kakstükki juba mul kasutuses nagu näed :p26 December 2015 15:35
Margus Meigo replied to Nele Hendrikson's comment.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
liiga teravad vist... või nagu piparkoogi raua asemel v?26 December 2015 15:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
Aga wau, suppertänud muide, või asjapeale ise tulnud küll poleks : )26 December 2015 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
aga kutid te oleksite teadnud, milleks need on:
(PS: pole freddy kruugeri ega jasoni arsenalist)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10207278330893288&set=pcb.463976987119886&type=3&theater26 December 2015 15:29
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Wau26 December 2015 15:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
NU jah, aga mul on ja jääb ta praegu veel kardinahoimishaagiks26 December 2015 15:28
Margus Meigo replied to John Smith's comment.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
Nagu vene asjad ikka :p26 December 2015 15:27
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
'aa need vasakulised olid need nõialised... sul pea ka punane ehk ?26 December 2015 15:25
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Ulata abistav käsi?26 December 2015 15:25
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
kuid yea, kaardinaid pestes viimase viieliitri veega, sest vihma polnud tulnud mõnda aega, sain aru küll, et ega see naiste elu meelakkumine pole olnud vanasti, või noh, seda meile lapsestsaati juba selgeks tehti kuid nagu kujutan ette, et meie ajastu sellistest asjadest kohe "Survival Show" teeks :D26 December 2015 15:24
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
aww... HoweryCovery mängib järgmisena playlistis... awwwa26 December 2015 15:19
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Kamara Jura veidrad sõbrad sul Kama :D26 December 2015 15:18
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
asusin hooksalt kohe kaardinapuud libestama26 December 2015 15:17
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
mul käed olid alles tavotised, leidsin ühe 62 aastast purgi26 December 2015 15:17
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
kuid nagu pane vahele ka, vaha, tõrva, nagu bella viatil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK-r3IfNNuQ26 December 2015 15:16
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
kõigeparem on jalalabadevahele hõõruda26 December 2015 15:15
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
26 December 2015 15:14
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
haha26 December 2015 15:13
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
:D ayee!26 December 2015 15:12
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Kellel on kõige karvasem selg26 December 2015 15:12
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
ma pean hoiatama, et ma selliseks enam ei hakka: http://www.rate.ee/show.php?id=2859#contenthttp://www.rate.ee/show.php?id=2859#content
26 December 2015 15:10
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
xD (Y)26 December 2015 15:10
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Ma mõtlesin, et mu sipelgatesse26 December 2015 15:09
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
ma ise ka ennast vaos proovin hoida26 December 2015 15:07
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
muidugi arusaadav ka sest noh.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKr-mcPJ6oYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKr-mcPJ6oY
26 December 2015 15:06
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
äraräägirõõmu :p26 December 2015 15:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Ei ole juba kaua aega... ja plärusi ei tee, ainult kanepit ikka. Plärud haisevad koledasti,määrivad ja tolku pole ühti neist26 December 2015 15:04
Margus Meigo replied to Marcella Luide's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Aga oled oodatud : )26 December 2015 15:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Ma ka oma praegust ei vahetaks naljalt mugavuste vastu..
Lisaks kohe kui ukse lahti teed on muru ja köögis seinasees elavad mesilased, ja teispool maja sipelgad (enne magasin koos sipelgatega (pesa voodi kõrval) ilma, et mul kordagi keegi neist oleks küljeall muljutud saadud, või et nad arvutisse roninud oleks, kui nendega mõistlikult suhelda siiis nad päris hästi saavad aru kes kus on ja kuidas olema peab)26 December 2015 15:01
Margus Meigo replied to Rein Heinmets's comment.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
parandussisseviidud, tänud : )26 December 2015 14:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Muidu tekkis mõte küll, et kahju on puid ära põletada, et seda loodus ja muud putikad saaksid palju adekvaatsemalt kasutada ju..26 December 2015 14:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: TUTVUS 25+
Rein mine Sa tea kuidas mul need asjad käivad ::p26 December 2015 14:56
Margus Meigo commented on Karin Kase's photo.
Muidugi ei anna võrrelda religionidega kes kogu asja välja mõelnud, mida kuidas vaja teha on, kuid jah.. eks mitmed asjad relgioonid olla saavad, ja ka metal. Lihtsalt see relgioon, see metal mis on kas siis ühe või teise relgiooni osa (kristlik metal kristliku ja Hinge poolel, ja möirgamine nagu soome Trollid on sellel poolel kes nende kehad üle võtavad esitluse ajal)
26 December 2015 14:55
Margus Meigo commented on Imre Tasku's post.
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Oot kas see päris päris reaalne kuulutus v?26 December 2015 14:50
Margus Meigo commented on Aurelius Sarapuu's post.
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:D26 December 2015 14:33
Margus Meigo commented on Aurelius Sarapuu's post.
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oh teid, get a room26 December 2015 14:33
Margus Meigo commented on Marcella Luide's post.
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Muidugi see on kurb maailm, kus arvatakse, et mees on nagu oma eluga valmis kui ta vaevu ainult oma elueest maksmisega hakkama saab.
Ikka miinimum kolme eest peaks,
kuid see maailm meelega sedasi aetud, et me oleksime lobakad, ja et mõlemad peaksid tööl olema, et suhted ja armastus ei saaks tekkida ja siis inimesed palju lihtsamini kontrollitavad, PALJU lihtsamini, kui neil pole tõsiseid suhteid26 December 2015 14:31
Margus Meigo commented on Marcella Luide's post.
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Nu siin pole eriti midagi keerulist ju,
Mees EI ARMASTA kui ta sellise ultimaatumi tegi ja tal tuleb välja kolida, Kas ta ikka aru saab mida ta Sind valima sunnib või?
Kuigi, olen ka ise sarnases olukorras olnud, kus Naine meelega valetas, et rasestusvastase süsti sai (midagi mida filipiinidel tehakse vist) kuid tegelt tahtis mind armastades minuga last salaja saada, see oli ka mulle siis sokk. Kuid midagi sellist nõuda?
Ning tal tuleb ka laps ära unustada. Kuid Sina too laps ilmale loomulikult. Eestis pole veel ükski vaene laps nälga surnud.
Täitsa huvitavad standardid nende hoolivate meeste osas on siin maal... et nagu hooliv ja tore aga jätab oma elukaaslase maha kui to lapse ilmale toob?
Samas muidugi aus mees, ja selgesõnaline, et seda kenasti ette ütleb. Tervitusi ka mehele siinkohal.
Muidugi on mehel hea ja mugav, kena noore naisega olla muretult, kuid see pole armastus, kui sellised valikud antakse, ja siis kui pole armastus tema poolne (ja ehk ka siis teie vahel pole päris, tegelikult) siis pole see ka maailmalõpp.
Seda asja EI saa kahtepidi võtta, et nagu ON armastus ja hoolimine sügavalt Sinu osas, selle sügava austuse osas ja et samas soovib sellist tegu. Siis kui arvab, et nii on, siis pole veel üles kasvanud, olgu või 67.
Te täiskasvanud , teate ju mis ja kuidas lapsed ilmale tulevad ja see oleks üllatus ju pigem kui ei lähe nii lõpuks, seni kuni naise südames veel soov on saada last.
Ning kuna plaanid tulevikus NAGUINII ühe lapsega veel ilma õnnistada, siis, siis peaksite hiljem ju 100% lahkuma üksteisest nagunii kui ta selleks võimeline pole, olema koos lapsega.
Eks muidugi, see keerab kogu elu planeeringu peapeale ja rahulikuse ja kerge elu mida plaanitud surmani.. kuid kui ta hästi mõtleb, siis saab aru, et ta saaks hakkama küll.
Sina aga, naine aga peaks võtma tal käest kinni, ja tõsiselt TEDA interviueerima ja TEMAL valiku andma, olla juhtivas positsioonis, et mitte tema ei lahkuks naise juurest vaid,et Naine saadab ta minema kui ta sedasi otsustanud on. Kuid tuleb jääda endale kindlaks, tugevaks ja ... ja mõni sõbranna tugi oleks hea kui olemas, selline õige feministlikuma või maanaise hoiakuga.26 December 2015 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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PS: mulle meeldib küll sandaale kanda jah, sest need tarkade ja heade inimeste jalanõud : )26 December 2015 14:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://plus.google.com/+MargusWaffa/posts/DtHjwHgHLC4
https://plus.google.com/+MargusWaffa/posts/DtHjwHgHLC4
26 December 2015 13:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ILMselgelt....
26 December 2015 10:51
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
there is global warning of the warming of the globe
26 December 2015 10:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ahjaa, selgituseks, kui magnet pooluseb vibravad (sest laevamehed neid pidevalt timminud sest liguvad...) siis see iseenesest, juba hakkab huvitavat ilma tekitama.
Ja taimedetoit mida toodame on iseenesest talutav
Ja taimedetoit mida toodame on iseenesest talutav
26 December 2015 09:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja veel koos George Carliniga..
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/global-warming
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/global-warming
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/global-warming
26 December 2015 09:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Veel: http://www.notable-quotes.com/g/global_warming_quotes.html
http://www.notable-quotes.com/g/global_warming_quotes.html
26 December 2015 09:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muid Ütlusi:
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/keywords/global_warming.html
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/keywords/global_warming.html
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/keywords/global_warming.html
26 December 2015 09:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ameeriklased seeeest saavad rahet kaela,nii, et on: "This morning, stunning photos show New England lobster boats frozen in port, looking like they are stranded deep within the Arctic Circle. The boats have been frozen in place for weeks, which would be remarkable enough if this were the middle of January. However, the calendar is about to turn to March.
Connecticut is experiencing its coldest February in recorded history. So is Michigan. So is Toronto. Cleveland and Chicago are experiencing their second coldest February in recorded history. Frigid and record cold temperatures are being set from Key West to International Falls. At the same time, blizzard after blizzard is burying much of the nation with record winter snow totals, with winter snowfall records beings set from Boston to Denver."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2015/02/25/cold-and-snow-destroy-global-warming-claims/
Connecticut is experiencing its coldest February in recorded history. So is Michigan. So is Toronto. Cleveland and Chicago are experiencing their second coldest February in recorded history. Frigid and record cold temperatures are being set from Key West to International Falls. At the same time, blizzard after blizzard is burying much of the nation with record winter snow totals, with winter snowfall records beings set from Boston to Denver."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2015/02/25/cold-and-snow-destroy-global-warming-claims/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2015/02/25/cold-and-snow-destroy-global-warming-claims/
26 December 2015 09:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
2. "Snow skiing will be hurt – but water skiing will benefit."
3. "We must demand that more coal be burned to save the Earth from global cooling." (eesti on siin kõvasti aidanud! Maailma suurimad, pikaajaliseim kivisöe kaevandus meil planeedi ajaloos olnud siiani)
4. Climate change is impossible because "God's still up there." (tõsi ta on, true that)
""Humans thrive in a wide variety of climate zones. Cities are increasingly climate-proofed by technological changes like air-conditioning and shopping malls." Further, he argued, the hardest-hit sectors – like, say, agriculture – are relatively small parts of the economy anyway. And economic growth in other sectors could compensate: "Snow skiing will be hurt – but water skiing will benefit.""
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-10-dumbest-things-ever-said-about-global-warming-20130619
3. "We must demand that more coal be burned to save the Earth from global cooling." (eesti on siin kõvasti aidanud! Maailma suurimad, pikaajaliseim kivisöe kaevandus meil planeedi ajaloos olnud siiani)
4. Climate change is impossible because "God's still up there." (tõsi ta on, true that)
""Humans thrive in a wide variety of climate zones. Cities are increasingly climate-proofed by technological changes like air-conditioning and shopping malls." Further, he argued, the hardest-hit sectors – like, say, agriculture – are relatively small parts of the economy anyway. And economic growth in other sectors could compensate: "Snow skiing will be hurt – but water skiing will benefit.""
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-10-dumbest-things-ever-said-about-global-warming-20130619
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-10-dumbest-things-ever-said-about-global-warming-20130619
26 December 2015 09:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Irooniat kus rohkem tõtt kui julgetakse arusaada... "It’s been over 11 years since the late novelist Michael Crichton advanced the hypothesis that aliens cause global warming.
I decided it was time to test his claim with real data.
Well, sure enough, the monthly UFO reports in recent decades are highly correlated with the increase in global ocean heat content. In fact, the relationship is so strong, if this was an epidemiological study it would be time to regulate UFOs.
Between 1979 and 2011 the number of UFO reports has been increasing right along with the average temperature of the upper 700 meters of ocean:
Fig. 1. Time series of monthly UFO reports and global average ocean temperature anomalies from the surface to 700 m depth. Trailing 12-month averages are also shown.
Fig. 1. Time series of monthly UFO reports and global average ocean temperature anomalies from the surface to 700 m depth. Trailing 12-month averages are also shown.
The correlation between UFO reports and ocean temperature is over 0.95, clearly better than the correlation between that boring old carbon dioxide and ocean warming:"
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/04/do-aliens-cause-global-warming-the-data-say-yes/
oh u aliens! I guess it got to cold in north Pole uh?
I decided it was time to test his claim with real data.
Well, sure enough, the monthly UFO reports in recent decades are highly correlated with the increase in global ocean heat content. In fact, the relationship is so strong, if this was an epidemiological study it would be time to regulate UFOs.
Between 1979 and 2011 the number of UFO reports has been increasing right along with the average temperature of the upper 700 meters of ocean:
Fig. 1. Time series of monthly UFO reports and global average ocean temperature anomalies from the surface to 700 m depth. Trailing 12-month averages are also shown.
Fig. 1. Time series of monthly UFO reports and global average ocean temperature anomalies from the surface to 700 m depth. Trailing 12-month averages are also shown.
The correlation between UFO reports and ocean temperature is over 0.95, clearly better than the correlation between that boring old carbon dioxide and ocean warming:"
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/04/do-aliens-cause-global-warming-the-data-say-yes/
oh u aliens! I guess it got to cold in north Pole uh?
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/04/do-aliens-cause-global-warming-the-data-say-yes/
26 December 2015 09:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
LaptopiSelfid, ilma ennast pealepanematta on raske pilti teha
Kuid jah... mulle meeldib.saab kurgid ja taimed varem maha pandud... peaasi, et igast parasiite rohkem sigima küllaga ei hakka, mille eest külm siiani hoolt kandnud on
Kas see kurk saab rohkem fänne kui Edgar Savisaar?
Kuid jah... mulle meeldib.saab kurgid ja taimed varem maha pandud... peaasi, et igast parasiite rohkem sigima küllaga ei hakka, mille eest külm siiani hoolt kandnud on
Kas see kurk saab rohkem fänne kui Edgar Savisaar?
26 December 2015 09:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja samal ajal sellised kontod on nagu üleval vabalt:
kuid minu cartoniline irooniline huumori pilt sarkastiliselt tuntud grupilt 80ndates on keelatu, tere tali
https://www.facebook.com/zabii.ylhasswotak
kuid minu cartoniline irooniline huumori pilt sarkastiliselt tuntud grupilt 80ndates on keelatu, tere tali
https://www.facebook.com/zabii.ylhasswotak
26 December 2015 00:43
Margus Meigo replied to Ele Riin's comment.
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kuid naine pidi vist keskmiselt nagunii 10 aastat arengust ees olema, seega jah..25 December 2015 19:19
Margus Meigo replied to Rainer Kuks's comment.
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Tundub nii25 December 2015 19:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Niisama elu osas, huvitavaid küsimusi võib loomulikult igaüks esitada, ega ma miski nii imelik ka pole, et aint selekteeritud ühiskonna osaga vestluses hakkama saaks
Maailmaparandus on põhiteemaks, elektroonikast puudeni
Naine, usk ja shamaani tegemised... : )25 December 2015 19:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
siis kui ma selle pildi siia panin üleeila siis küll keegi ei laikinud :D
25 December 2015 18:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Tere 60ndad
rohekaskuldne terence mckenna ja timothy leary, Alan Watts Wisdom ajastu!
rohekaskuldne terence mckenna ja timothy leary, Alan Watts Wisdom ajastu!
25 December 2015 17:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ma arvan, et sõna "tits" ka on varsti keelatud, isegi kui see on kontekstis "tase"
25 December 2015 17:16
Margus Meigo commented on Elisa Eesti's photo.
Oot aga mida head me siis saame, õigemini mina mina mina . )
25 December 2015 17:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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selles mõttes, et selle ajastu inimesi võiks siit veel leida..
Kuigi noh, eks see vanus ise ona ka siiras.25 December 2015 17:01
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nu siis Sina ka:p25 December 2015 17:00
Margus Meigo replied to Ele Riin's comment.
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Vau kui noored te siin olete, peab ajas reisima suts25 December 2015 16:53
Margus Meigo replied to Ele Riin's comment.
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Kerli Lees mis itsitad vesiroos, ise kontakti vastu võtta pelgasid :p (naer on terviseks, seega kõik omalkohal ja normulna)
Peaasi, et kõik turvaline on :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chA5CRqROC825 December 2015 16:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Ärge pahaks pange, lisasin siin kontaktlisti siia kommentaari pannud endal
See lihtsalt paar nupuliigutust.. networking, networking, networking.. : )
Ilusaid Roheliste Jõulade jätku25 December 2015 16:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Nii Nii NIIII umm. häbelikud või muuu maitselised te siiin.. mul pole veel ei ühtegi kõnet ega kirja olnud,
ju vist peab ikka metsahaldjaid edasi võrguga jõekaldal luurama..
Ei tegelt ma, ma väga viisakas, võtke rinnahoidja maha ja muud pidurid ja tulge rääkige mis on südameis mõtteis..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8nGK4GhgUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8nGK4GhgU
25 December 2015 16:41
Margus Meigo replied to Ele Riin's comment.
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Tere ilusad inimesed, mis sex siin käib?25 December 2015 16:38
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Teekivi, koolivend Märjamaalt25 December 2015 16:38
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jeerum
Ta vist mu klassivenna õde, või tüdruk ? :p25 December 2015 16:37
Margus Meigo replied to Aule Kim's comment.
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i know, confusing25 December 2015 16:37
Margus Meigo replied to Aule Kim's comment.
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ta suht lahti pidevalt.. kuid noh.. südames.. võiks suts suts kellegi sunas kinnisem olla, et siis eriti avatud saada25 December 2015 16:37
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.D (Y)25 December 2015 16:35
Margus Meigo replied to Rainer Kuks's comment.
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Kes on See imeline inimene?
Kas tal siledamad mehed silmajärgi rohkem pole, hmm näeme : )25 December 2015 16:35
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sandaalid on igapäeva jalanõu :p25 December 2015 16:34
Margus Meigo replied to Martin Markii's comment.
Muidugi need tegno noodid on eriti sügavad :D
Kuid jah.. kas nagu Päris tecnost juttu ja..siis seda asumi asja peab uurima, tänud!
Kuid jah.. kas nagu Päris tecnost juttu ja..siis seda asumi asja peab uurima, tänud!
25 December 2015 10:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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5229041 ;) Küsida võib kõike, enemasti oskan vastata ka : ))23 December 2015 22:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Sellises energias.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dChToAIaUs ja veel edasi.... musika ikka meeldib, hingega kuulata, eks ?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dChToAIaUs
23 December 2015 22:42
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23 December 2015 22:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Häid Kõigeparemaid Pühade Alguseid!23 December 2015 17:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Muidugi need seadused on päris kõrge maagiaga maises mõttes kirjapandud, et võivad affatlevad tunduda, mul neile selgitused meie keeli kirjutamata veel, kuid lühidalt need suunavad sind oma lähedastest eemale, skisofreenilisse olukorda kus sul lõpuks pole kellegile muule ennast allutada kui kurjusele, või siis tekitavad ajutist edu selleselus ja panevad teisi sind nägema kui " jerk y " .. kuid selliselt elades, ise sa rahuliku head und küll ei saa, rääkimata õigest hoolivast naisest23 December 2015 17:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Päris hirmuäratavalt kilavad silmad või mis, pool elavad ka netis
Veab neil kes elavad armastuses, või armastuse soovis23 December 2015 17:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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NU ma talle paari asja selgitasin... eks näis kuidas vastab ja kuidas ta saab edasi toimida selles võrgus...
kuid jah, väga popiks just Aafriaks need asjad läinud,
See tyyp kes need asjad kirjutas on ise siin:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Greene_%28American_author%29
Kokkuvõte:
vastavad nimed kah:
The 48 Laws of Power: The 48 Laws of Power
has sold more than 700,000 copies: It is popular with well-known rappers, entrepreneurs, celebrities, athletes and actors including 50 Cent, Jay-Z, Kanye West, Busta Rhymes, Ludacris, DJ Premier, Dov Charney, Brian Grazer, Andrew Bynum, Chris Bosh, and Will Smith
The Art of Seduction:
details aspects of attraction, authenticity, storytelling and negotiation. Greene uses examples from historical figures such as Cleopatra, Giacomo Casanova, Duke Ellington and John F. Kennedy to support the psychology behind seduction.
The Art of Seduction is mentioned in Neil Strauss' book The Game as a recommended book in the seduction community. It has sold more than 500,000 copies
Väga ohtlikud need seduction raamatud...
The 33 Strategies of War:
Self-Directed Warfare, Organizational (Team) Warfare, Defensive Warfare, Offensive Warfare and Unconventional (Dirty) Warfare.[19] The book is a guide to the campaign of everyday life and distills military wisdom from historical figures like Napoleon Bonaparte, Sun Tzu, Alfred Hitchcock, Alexander the Great and Margaret Thatcher
The 50th Law is the fourth book by Greene—written collaboratively with rapper 50 Cent...
siin pole vaja vist rohkem lisada
Kui siis:
"he book debuted at #5 on The New York Times Bestseller list and was a USA Today bestseller"
jeerum
ja veel kõrgemale ronib, forbes, CNN jne:
"Greene's fifth book, Mastery, was released on November 13, 2012. Mastery examines the lives of both historical and contemporary figures such as Charles Darwin, Paul Graham, the Wright Brothers, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Edison, and Mozart, and distills the traits and universal ingredients that made them masters.[41] The book is divided into six sections, each focusing on essential lessons and strategies on the path to Mastery.
Mastery reached #6 on The New York Times Bestseller list and was featured in CNN Money, The Huffington Post, The New York Times, Business Insider, Forbes, Management Today, and Fast Company"
Vot sellise kuti materiali siis igast aktiivgrupid kasutavad..
Lisaks igast taro jms materialile. Ohtlikud ja enesekindlad headust mitte uskuvad jõudud tekitatakse massiliselt... nii üleval kui all..
Vaimud-tulnarid toimetavad asjalikult, ärgem meie ka maga"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Greene_%28American_author%29
23 December 2015 17:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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RULES AND REGULATIONS AS A NEW MEMBER
ANY NEW MEMBER WHO WISH TO JOIN THE SOCIETY, HE/SHE HAS TO STAND ALL THE BELOW LISTED TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR HIM/HER TO BE CONSIDERED IN THE NEW SECRET WORLD AGE (ILLUMINATI).SO READ THEM CAREFUL AND GET BACK TO US SOONEST. FOLLOW YOUR HEART BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO SIGN THE CONTRACT WITH THE SOCIETY AND IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH ONE OF THE CONDITIONS, WE WILL ADVISE YOU NOT TO TAMPER TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT.
pla pla pla ja siis veel:
selleks et hakata, soovivad:
(kuigi nende enda osa, on osaliselt ka raha skämm, ühed teised, küsisid rituaali jaoks, sisseastumise lepinguks alasti pilti )
3.3 You must have a strong belief of Success.
4.4 You must be able to keep secrets to yourself.
5.5 You must be able to wear a black shirt/vest/skirt/dress E.T.C not less than 3 times a week.
6.6 You must believe that money is power.
7.7 You must be aware that your name sounds in the list of celebrities and super-rich.
8.8 You must have goals and desires of your dreams in life.
9.9 You must be ready to visit the sea water at midnight once a year.
10.10 You must have a belief in the change/modern world of doing things.
11.11 You must be able to read/respect/understand the prayers of the illuminati.
12.12 You have to be able to make a sacrifice for your info, NOTE: (not human sacrifices)The form is purchased from our high priest in nigeria..And you will be sending the money via western union to the priest,because he is in charge on it...I hope you have an email.because the day you send the money and its being received by the priest,you will have to send your email to him,after that,the form will be sent to you..And you have to fill it and return. And in 2 days will be your initation...Distance is not a barrier.23 December 2015 17:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Infoks siis neile kes uusi vimpkategijaid uurivad,
Sonumid mida saadavad:
"hello my name is mr malan peter,
am a member of the great illuminati,
are you interested in joining the great illuminati??"
"A brief history about the great ILLUMINATI ..
The Illuminati, interpreted as the cradle of light is a secret
society that was founded in late 17th century,
and has since gained immense popularity. It was a free
mason society but
the members felt there was religious conflict because
members of the Illuminati were unbelievers.
Speculations suggest that the Illuminati has continued
impact on the society,
forming a new world order.
Welcome! We are delighted that your life’s journey has led
you to discover our organization.
Maybe you have met one of our members in the flesh. Or
perhaps not; we value anonymity.
We see and know all just as a shepherd sees and knows all
of the flock,
our eyes peering over the masses to identify any threat. We
are the bringers of new dawns,
the guardians of the human species. We are the pyramid,
the eye, the eternal. We are the Illuminati.
The Illuminati is a collective of prominent figures throughout
the world who have united
to guard the human species from extinction. Our members
bear the burden of a planet’s leadership
with the lives of 7 billion in their hands. As the human
continues to rise above its other animal counterparts
governing of the planet has turned into a daunting task.
In return for their loyalty, our members are presented a life
of limitless wealth and opportunity.
Once a member, the requirements are unimposing and
often spaced between many years.
Our requests are simple and therefore may be hard to
comprehend, but disloyalty is not tolerated.
You must understand this before applying. Members must
fulfill their oaths to the Illuminati under
every circumstance and recognize that they are merely one
part of a much larger Grand Design.
For centuries, our organization has separated individuals of
outstanding political, financial,
or cultural influence from the flock, and established them as
shepherds of the human species.
Perhaps you have already proven yourself in these fields."23 December 2015 17:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Nad kasutavad selles sektis mille liige ta on seda "48 võimu seadust"
Laadisin need ülesse ka siia: http://human.hol.es/?dir=clandestine (pane otsingusse 48, mitu eri versiooni, tekstina ja PDF)
Ning siis lisaks veel tavalist wiki infot 17 sajandi illuminati kohtahttp://human.hol.es/?dir=clandestine
23 December 2015 17:28
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Vooglaid's post.
Group: Kristlased
PROTESTiate värk.. mis siin kommenteerida23 December 2015 16:15
Margus Meigo commented on Ive Lepp's photo.
kena õis tõesti
23 December 2015 11:14
Margus Meigo commented on Enn Ojaste's post.
Aitah armas Enn
23 December 2015 11:13
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Masing's post.
23 December 2015 10:05
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Masing's post.
Group: Kanepi legaliseerimise avalikud pooldajad
"Rohelised" grupi adminnid oleks vist selle posti maha tõmmanud, sex ja mariuana koos ei olnud lubatud viimanekord kui proovisin isegi mitte graafikat vaid aint juttu jagada :D
" Facebook
"We prohibit any attempts by unauthorized dealers to purchase, sell, or trade prescription drugs and marijuana. ...
Also:
"Photos and videos containing drug use, graphic content or nudity are not allowed on Facebook. We also don't allow photos or videos that glorify violence or attack an individual or group."
Instagram
"Follow the law... Instagram is not a place to support or praise terrorism, organized crime, or hate groups. Offering sexual services, buying or selling illegal or prescription drugs (even if it’s legal in your region), as well as promoting recreational drug use is also not allowed."
http://www.hailmaryjane.com/social-medias-war-on-cannabis/http://www.hailmaryjane.com/social-medias-war-on-cannabis/
23 December 2015 10:05
Margus Meigo commented on Mati Hunt's post.
Group: Armastus♥♥
kogu sellest liha asjast palju ei hooli sest see mdagi reaalselt juurdeandavt kehale ei lisa kuid leib on küll vägev ja ilus, väga tubli!23 December 2015 09:36
Margus Meigo commented on Jaakko Hallas's post.
sul need jõulu teemad aina karmimaks lähevad
21 December 2015 08:41
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Teutseme .)
21 December 2015 08:41
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Isegi tunnetest räägitakse vist kui miskit keemilisest reaktsionist aga mitte sügavast arusaamast, lihtsalt, kust ja miks.. ja kuidas.
aeh.. mis siin..
aeh.. mis siin..
21 December 2015 08:41
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Taodelda võib igast asju, et emotsioonidega hääli tekitada, kuid meil siin riigis praegu selle aluspinnaga vaja tegeleda, mis selle asja üldse võimalikuks tegi, see eeldab koolist saati inimeste mõttemaailma Greeka põhiselt mõtlemiselt Heebria sunalisele üle konvertimist, loodus suunaliseks, naise suunaliseks.
Arusaamatu kuidas paljud siiani pole aru saanud, et mille kaudu munadetpidi riike peos hoitakse, ikka vigase hariduse aluspõhja kaudu, mis ei räägi ei surmast, armastusest ega muust vaimsest, sest .. sellisel madalal tasemel arusaamad nagu planeeritud on teada tavarahvale Greeka-Rooma põhistes ühiskondades, need teemad ei mahu sisse.
Sest neist just meid eemale hoides... nad saavad meid solgutada... ja need meie endi lastega proovitakse välja suretada, kes vanu asju veel teavad..
Arusaamatu kuidas paljud siiani pole aru saanud, et mille kaudu munadetpidi riike peos hoitakse, ikka vigase hariduse aluspõhja kaudu, mis ei räägi ei surmast, armastusest ega muust vaimsest, sest .. sellisel madalal tasemel arusaamad nagu planeeritud on teada tavarahvale Greeka-Rooma põhistes ühiskondades, need teemad ei mahu sisse.
Sest neist just meid eemale hoides... nad saavad meid solgutada... ja need meie endi lastega proovitakse välja suretada, kes vanu asju veel teavad..
21 December 2015 08:40
Margus Meigo commented on Mario Pio's post.
why would they block out her tits and all that, what is wrong with people
did they add the real link to real photos at least, in hd
did they add the real link to real photos at least, in hd
21 December 2015 05:40
Margus Meigo commented on Mario Pio's photo.
but i do wonder so often,
what was the biggest good accomplishments hes crew was doing, and why they turned violence,
alcohol i assume or lack of proper drugs, no?
what was the biggest good accomplishments hes crew was doing, and why they turned violence,
alcohol i assume or lack of proper drugs, no?
21 December 2015 05:36
Margus Meigo commented on Mario Pio's photo.
How was hes view on weed and magic mushrooms and proper country farming, does anyone know to say ?
21 December 2015 05:36
Margus Meigo commented on Mario Pio's photo.
are you serius :D
21 December 2015 05:33
Margus Meigo commented on Cka Jordan's post.
The alien genes regulate humans inside, and motivate.
In big part, this is why many people get so crazed about it
In big part, this is why many people get so crazed about it
21 December 2015 05:32
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
in 5 AM loudspeakers
21 December 2015 05:01
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Okey that was disturbing :D
21 December 2015 05:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(:
21 December 2015 04:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
did anyone try to Zoom on that image on website, nice one uh?21 December 2015 04:38
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
guy on the left next to mentalcop is like "fk , that bullshit.. i just wanna get home and get a joint.."21 December 2015 04:37
Margus Meigo commented on Halifa Tires's post.
These cops will have hot spot ready in hell
21 December 2015 04:34
Margus Meigo commented on Halifa Tires's photo.
This picture is still, almost to awesome :D
Ali smile (Y)
Ali smile (Y)
21 December 2015 04:33
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Group: Seiklejate Vennaskonna vabatahtlikud
Kuidas sellega läks ? : )21 December 2015 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to Luke Gray's comment.
Yes, lost onknown, was just thinking to get some signals there to ppl to find out who is seen what, there have been 3moths no contact by now it seems, Selene as well.
21 December 2015 01:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Who is more rassist, black or white?
There is two sides, back people and neggers, and neggers gotta go!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vFbsZkhXU
Why the speller does not know how to fix a world "negger"
these rassist white geeks..
There is two sides, back people and neggers, and neggers gotta go!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vFbsZkhXU
Why the speller does not know how to fix a world "negger"
these rassist white geeks..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vFbsZkhXU
21 December 2015 00:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Its how u say it
ja sisu
"there is no Gay or Asian homeless people"
But what if the person acts like faggot?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we-zND9Ihes
ja sisu
"there is no Gay or Asian homeless people"
But what if the person acts like faggot?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we-zND9Ihes
21 December 2015 00:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja veel oluline selgitus siniselt lemmik negro tegelaselt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPDetBACaU0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPDetBACaU0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPDetBACaU0
21 December 2015 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kas märkasid kuidas kahes viimases videos riided poole jutupealt muutusid ja siis tagasi muutusid ?
Selgita seda .. :p ..secret service..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv6vdOcehgc
Selgita seda .. :p ..secret service..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv6vdOcehgc
21 December 2015 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Niipalju veel tõdesi, et raske neelata ühiskonnal ("sa ei näe kunagi musta tüdrukut vana valge mehega... kui näed, siis tähendab, et selle naise krediit on VÄÄÄa tuksis...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3dVc2btTSQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3dVc2btTSQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3dVc2btTSQ
21 December 2015 00:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tema naiste teemasi tasub kuulata, aitab mitu astet edasi.. kuid noh, mure selles, et Naised peaks ka kuulama... mees üksi aru saab kui lihtne asi on.. siis sellest pole suuremat abi alati
21 December 2015 00:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja üks mu lemmik artiste, naeru huumori osas
"women have 2 man in their life: Man they fucking and man they should be fucking" ... "a lot of man do not laugh right now because they do not know which one they are"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG5Kjsz_Y2E
"women have 2 man in their life: Man they fucking and man they should be fucking" ... "a lot of man do not laugh right now because they do not know which one they are"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG5Kjsz_Y2E
21 December 2015 00:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And all the world is studding well, and soon...
You do get the double layer of information on these simple ones, at least
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIRjB6CPxLE
You do get the double layer of information on these simple ones, at least
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIRjB6CPxLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIRjB6CPxLE
21 December 2015 00:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Did You ever notice.. that it is called... a .. WHITE house ?
20 December 2015 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
On black Torrorists
Terrorists do not take black hostages. White people do not like talking about political affiliations in public (" so i was .... my fife in a ... and / HEY, who do You vote for? / Stop it.. do not ask these personal questions.. i am here talking about ... my five in a ... and u ask all these personal questions, stop it! )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2ASPUkkHMs
(Rick James bitch!)
Terrorists do not take black hostages. White people do not like talking about political affiliations in public (" so i was .... my fife in a ... and / HEY, who do You vote for? / Stop it.. do not ask these personal questions.. i am here talking about ... my five in a ... and u ask all these personal questions, stop it! )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2ASPUkkHMs
(Rick James bitch!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2ASPUkkHMs
20 December 2015 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
On whites and blacks:
"You white ones like ethnic jokes but you do not like laugh about it when they are looking at you... but in home..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj2MQqN5of4
"You white ones like ethnic jokes but you do not like laugh about it when they are looking at you... but in home..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj2MQqN5of4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj2MQqN5of4
20 December 2015 23:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
On Asians
You see how God balances out.. he give You Asians great minds and work ethics .. but small dicks
"Some of you did not clap ...as you did not understand.. let me explain you..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esKwU3BrUfM
You see how God balances out.. he give You Asians great minds and work ethics .. but small dicks
"Some of you did not clap ...as you did not understand.. let me explain you..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esKwU3BrUfM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esKwU3BrUfM
20 December 2015 23:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sellest ei hakka isegi rääkima, lähen heidan pikali
20 December 2015 09:51
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek Saviir's photo.
Tubli tüdruk, ja delfiinid hoiavad teadvuse ka kõrgel ja fantaasia lendamas, et aju areneks kõrgel tasemel
20 December 2015 04:59
Margus Meigo replied to Rene Mändel's comment.
Aga mida Sina täpsemalt küsisid?
20 December 2015 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.reddit.com/user/genjix
https://www.reddit.com/user/genjix
20 December 2015 04:35
Margus Meigo replied to Rene Mändel's comment.
aa :D Nu ma arvan, et see on kena, valitsusest selgitamaks inimestele, et TOR ei ole privaatsuse unistuste tipp
20 December 2015 04:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Unn, see mul päris elu söber...
20 December 2015 04:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
the videos has been starting to getting lost from YT as predicted
20 December 2015 04:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3¶ms=OAFIAVgC&v=TtE--gj28_c&mode=NORMAL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLsXelNZnKcxk9GBUxKQ9x3uCGwGEJw8i3¶ms=OAFIAVgC&v=TtE--gj28_c&mode=NORMAL
20 December 2015 04:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oh, that Reminds me, that Amir Taaki vent to Syria and is now 3 moths still missing,
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ry7lt/amir_taaki_interview_hes_talking_about_how_he_got/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ry7lt/amir_taaki_interview_hes_talking_about_how_he_got/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ry7lt/amir_taaki_interview_hes_talking_about_how_he_got/
20 December 2015 04:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
copptan häid muusikavaliku sonumeid siit hiljem: https://fp.lhv.ee/forum/free/121371?postId=2548989&locale=en
https://fp.lhv.ee/forum/free/121371?postId=2548989&locale=en
20 December 2015 02:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
spo the last part the try to make women not do these things in part and ... oeh.. will explain psychology behind it later
fk, that was a lot to explain in future research about what is told how and why..
fk, that was a lot to explain in future research about what is told how and why..
20 December 2015 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and t the last... :D:D:D
How to Look Gay (For Women)
Tags: lesbian
Everyone at TNG has become obsessed with the gay Wiki How pages. Topics range from How to Get a Lesbian Girlfriend to How to Know if You are Gay. My personal favorite is How to Look Gay (for Women) because honestly I don’t look gay. At all. And after the recent post on what lesbians wear to work, I have to admit to feeling left out. So I went through the list to see how I match up, and see if there are things that I can incorporate into my wardrobe to give ladies I might be interested in a heads up.
Step 1: The first step is to remember not to change who you are or completely transform your look. You must be true to yourself to feel comfortable. Confidence is the single most important step you can take to make yourself attractive to anyone.
Confidence is hot.
Step 2: Hang out at places where lesbians like to go. Many bars and clubs have “girls nights” where you can meet other lesbians and observe fashion and personal styling tips. Just being there will make you appear gayer and will significantly increase your chances of meeting someone special.
Okay, well this is obvious. But it hasn’t worked.
Step 3: Join a gay dating site. This way, there will be no question as to whether you’re looking to meet a girl.
Ehhh. I did try to date via Craigslist and that backfired. After receiving emails from women who were either a. scary, b. sent me naked pictures, or c. all of the above, I went on one date where the girl was not cute and was quiet as a mouse. I proceeded to get tanked so I could talk to her, and the next morning she sent me an email asking me out again. Seriously? That wasn’t awkward for you?
Step 4. If you feel comfortable with the idea, cut your hair short. A short back and sides styled into a fauxhawk is sure to get you a lot of female attention.
The last time I had short hair was in 8th grade. This was also the year that I had round, green, wire framed glasses. Neither suited me especially well, and my hair has been longish ever since.
Step 5. Many lesbians prefer to have long hair – if this is the case, make sure it looks good, but not over-styled with accessories that are too feminine. Healthy and clean is the look you’re going for here.
Can someone explain what accessories are too feminine. Is my large, Blair Waldorf-esque headband collection unacceptable if I want to look gay? I went to the Uh Huh Her concert with two new Vineyard Vines headbands in my purse. I’m thinking that this wasn’t the best idea.
Step 6. Keep your nails short and neat. Long nails, particularly false, can make girls appear straight – so avoid this look.
Yep! I do get manicures sometimes, but would never get fake nails. In fact I got ripped up down there once after sleeping with a girl who had fake nails.
Step 7. If you’re comfortable with everyone knowing your sexuality, wear a t-shirt
with a lesbian slogan or image. These are available from shops in gay districts and many adult shops. Failing this, a shirt featuring a band that appeals to lesbians eg the Indigo Girls, Betty, the Organ etc will help and is more tasteful.
I’ve never seen the Indigo Girls, Betty is terrible, and who the hell is The Organ? Next.
Step 8. Put a rainbow sticker on your car or laptop. These are available at adult shops and online. Tip – it’s unfortunate, but true, that in this day and age homophobia still exists, so if you use a company vehicle or computer, be prepared to remove a rainbow sticker if asked to do so.
I did have an equality sticker on my nalgene, but then nalgenes became unhealthy so I threw it away.
Step 9. Wear rainbow jewellery or have a rainbow keyring/lanyard. If a lesbian is attracted to you, her instinct will tell her to look for clues that you’re into girls – so an item like this, as small as it may be, will provide a huge advantage.
Lanyard? Where on earth would I ever wear a lanyard to? Day camp?
Step 10. Wear pants rather than a dress or skirt to work. A collared shirt with a tie looks hot and definitely looks gay.
Okay, ties are hot. But not on me. I think I look far better in a dress.
Step 11. Wear flat shoes or boots. Avoid high heels. Steel-capped boots, Birkenstock sandals or Chuck Taylors are great.
I stopped wearing Chuck Taylors in elementary school and Birkenstocks in high school. Steel-capped boots? As TNG Stephanie said, “steel-capped boots?? i think i look better with my tool belt on and it sends a stronger message.” And flat boots are for riding horses with. I usually wear ballet flats or flip flops since I’m too tall to wear heels most of the time.
Step 12. Wear minimal makeup and keep your look casual. Nobody likes dirty or untidy women, so put some effort in, just keep it simple and funky, not dressy and glam.
I hate makeup so I guess I get some points here. Though I still do wear mascara every day.
Step 13. If you wear glasses, strong-looking, dark frames are popular with lesbians. If they suit your face, these are a good choice.
YES! I have these! And so did every other girl at the lesbian happy hour on Tuesday. Though too bad I only wear them at night because I see better with my contacts. My reading glasses are dark though, so maybe I get double points? Or else do I lose points for having reading glasses at my age?
Step 14. Wear comfortable, cotton underwear with a masculine, wide elastic waistband. Do not put too much effort into exposing the waistband, it will show when you move and other lesbians will notice it.
Um, what? Didn’t exposing the waistband go out in 1996? Someone needs to rethink this suggestion.
Tips
* Don’t wear a particular style of clothing if you don’t like it or it doesn’t suit your body type. Always choose clothes that make you look good and feel comfortable.
* Smile (I don’t smile. Ever. Maybe this is why everyone thinks I’m stuck up.)
* Maintain good posture – this makes you appear strong and confident and if you stand up straight and hold your head high, before you know it you will feel confident. This will make you instantly more attractive. (The person who wrote this isn’t tall. I can tell you that right now.)
* Make eye contact with other lesbians. Let them know you’re checking them out! What have you got to lose?
* Where possible, drop lesbian topics into conversation eg “Have you seen Season 4 of the L Word yet?” “Did you go to the pride picnic last weekend?” (Who has pride picnics? And why wasn’t I invited?)
* Remember, gay girls look for clues
- so less effort may be necessary than you think. (It is true. I do it too, so I guess I shouldn’t be so pissed off when no one ever thinks I’m gay.)
So I guess these tips fit for many of the lesbians I know, but it’s just not for me. Are there any other femmes out there who don’t feel like they fit? And who maybe want to go shopping?
http://thenewgay.net/2008/05/how-to-look-gay-for-women.html
How to Look Gay (For Women)
Tags: lesbian
Everyone at TNG has become obsessed with the gay Wiki How pages. Topics range from How to Get a Lesbian Girlfriend to How to Know if You are Gay. My personal favorite is How to Look Gay (for Women) because honestly I don’t look gay. At all. And after the recent post on what lesbians wear to work, I have to admit to feeling left out. So I went through the list to see how I match up, and see if there are things that I can incorporate into my wardrobe to give ladies I might be interested in a heads up.
Step 1: The first step is to remember not to change who you are or completely transform your look. You must be true to yourself to feel comfortable. Confidence is the single most important step you can take to make yourself attractive to anyone.
Confidence is hot.
Step 2: Hang out at places where lesbians like to go. Many bars and clubs have “girls nights” where you can meet other lesbians and observe fashion and personal styling tips. Just being there will make you appear gayer and will significantly increase your chances of meeting someone special.
Okay, well this is obvious. But it hasn’t worked.
Step 3: Join a gay dating site. This way, there will be no question as to whether you’re looking to meet a girl.
Ehhh. I did try to date via Craigslist and that backfired. After receiving emails from women who were either a. scary, b. sent me naked pictures, or c. all of the above, I went on one date where the girl was not cute and was quiet as a mouse. I proceeded to get tanked so I could talk to her, and the next morning she sent me an email asking me out again. Seriously? That wasn’t awkward for you?
Step 4. If you feel comfortable with the idea, cut your hair short. A short back and sides styled into a fauxhawk is sure to get you a lot of female attention.
The last time I had short hair was in 8th grade. This was also the year that I had round, green, wire framed glasses. Neither suited me especially well, and my hair has been longish ever since.
Step 5. Many lesbians prefer to have long hair – if this is the case, make sure it looks good, but not over-styled with accessories that are too feminine. Healthy and clean is the look you’re going for here.
Can someone explain what accessories are too feminine. Is my large, Blair Waldorf-esque headband collection unacceptable if I want to look gay? I went to the Uh Huh Her concert with two new Vineyard Vines headbands in my purse. I’m thinking that this wasn’t the best idea.
Step 6. Keep your nails short and neat. Long nails, particularly false, can make girls appear straight – so avoid this look.
Yep! I do get manicures sometimes, but would never get fake nails. In fact I got ripped up down there once after sleeping with a girl who had fake nails.
Step 7. If you’re comfortable with everyone knowing your sexuality, wear a t-shirt
with a lesbian slogan or image. These are available from shops in gay districts and many adult shops. Failing this, a shirt featuring a band that appeals to lesbians eg the Indigo Girls, Betty, the Organ etc will help and is more tasteful.
I’ve never seen the Indigo Girls, Betty is terrible, and who the hell is The Organ? Next.
Step 8. Put a rainbow sticker on your car or laptop. These are available at adult shops and online. Tip – it’s unfortunate, but true, that in this day and age homophobia still exists, so if you use a company vehicle or computer, be prepared to remove a rainbow sticker if asked to do so.
I did have an equality sticker on my nalgene, but then nalgenes became unhealthy so I threw it away.
Step 9. Wear rainbow jewellery or have a rainbow keyring/lanyard. If a lesbian is attracted to you, her instinct will tell her to look for clues that you’re into girls – so an item like this, as small as it may be, will provide a huge advantage.
Lanyard? Where on earth would I ever wear a lanyard to? Day camp?
Step 10. Wear pants rather than a dress or skirt to work. A collared shirt with a tie looks hot and definitely looks gay.
Okay, ties are hot. But not on me. I think I look far better in a dress.
Step 11. Wear flat shoes or boots. Avoid high heels. Steel-capped boots, Birkenstock sandals or Chuck Taylors are great.
I stopped wearing Chuck Taylors in elementary school and Birkenstocks in high school. Steel-capped boots? As TNG Stephanie said, “steel-capped boots?? i think i look better with my tool belt on and it sends a stronger message.” And flat boots are for riding horses with. I usually wear ballet flats or flip flops since I’m too tall to wear heels most of the time.
Step 12. Wear minimal makeup and keep your look casual. Nobody likes dirty or untidy women, so put some effort in, just keep it simple and funky, not dressy and glam.
I hate makeup so I guess I get some points here. Though I still do wear mascara every day.
Step 13. If you wear glasses, strong-looking, dark frames are popular with lesbians. If they suit your face, these are a good choice.
YES! I have these! And so did every other girl at the lesbian happy hour on Tuesday. Though too bad I only wear them at night because I see better with my contacts. My reading glasses are dark though, so maybe I get double points? Or else do I lose points for having reading glasses at my age?
Step 14. Wear comfortable, cotton underwear with a masculine, wide elastic waistband. Do not put too much effort into exposing the waistband, it will show when you move and other lesbians will notice it.
Um, what? Didn’t exposing the waistband go out in 1996? Someone needs to rethink this suggestion.
Tips
* Don’t wear a particular style of clothing if you don’t like it or it doesn’t suit your body type. Always choose clothes that make you look good and feel comfortable.
* Smile (I don’t smile. Ever. Maybe this is why everyone thinks I’m stuck up.)
* Maintain good posture – this makes you appear strong and confident and if you stand up straight and hold your head high, before you know it you will feel confident. This will make you instantly more attractive. (The person who wrote this isn’t tall. I can tell you that right now.)
* Make eye contact with other lesbians. Let them know you’re checking them out! What have you got to lose?
* Where possible, drop lesbian topics into conversation eg “Have you seen Season 4 of the L Word yet?” “Did you go to the pride picnic last weekend?” (Who has pride picnics? And why wasn’t I invited?)
* Remember, gay girls look for clues
- so less effort may be necessary than you think. (It is true. I do it too, so I guess I shouldn’t be so pissed off when no one ever thinks I’m gay.)
So I guess these tips fit for many of the lesbians I know, but it’s just not for me. Are there any other femmes out there who don’t feel like they fit? And who maybe want to go shopping?
http://thenewgay.net/2008/05/how-to-look-gay-for-women.html
20 December 2015 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
once more for ending
Medieval Europe
Medieval Europeans wore wooden-soled patten shoes, which were ancestors to contemporary high heels. Elizabeth Semmelhack, curator at Toronto's Bata Shoe Museum, traces the high heel to Persian [1] horse riders in the Near East who used high heels for functionality, because they helped hold the rider's foot in stirrups.[2] She states that this footwear is depicted on a 9th-century ceramic bowl from Persia.[3][4]
It is sometimes suggested that raised heels were a response to the problem of the rider's foot slipping forward in stirrups while riding.[3] The "rider's heel", approximately 1 1⁄2 inches (3.8 cm) high, appeared in Europe around 1600.[2] The leading edge was canted forward to help grip the stirrup, and the trailing edge was canted forward to prevent the elongated heel from catching on underbrush or rock while backing up, such as in on-foot combat. These features are evident today in riding boots, notably cowboy boots.
Ancient Egypt
Early depictions of high heels could be seen on ancient Egyptian murals, dating back to 3500 BC. These murals would depict Egyptian nobilities wearing heels to set them apart from the lower class, who would normally go barefoot. Heeled shoes were worn by both men and women, and most commonly for ceremonial purposes. However, high heels also served a practical purpose for Egyptian butchers who wore them in order to walk over the bloodied bodies of animal carcasses. During Egyptian times, heels were leather pieces that were held together by lacing to form the symbol of “Ankh”, signifying life.[5]
Ancient Greece and Rome
Platform sandals called “kothorni” or “buskins” were shoes with high wooden cork soles worn during ancient Greek and Roman era. They were particularly popular among the actors who would wear them to differentiate the social classes and importance of each character. In ancient Rome, where sex trade was legal, high heels were used to identify those within the trade to potential clients and high heels became associated with prostitution.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-heeled_footwear#Ancient_Egypt
Medieval Europe
Medieval Europeans wore wooden-soled patten shoes, which were ancestors to contemporary high heels. Elizabeth Semmelhack, curator at Toronto's Bata Shoe Museum, traces the high heel to Persian [1] horse riders in the Near East who used high heels for functionality, because they helped hold the rider's foot in stirrups.[2] She states that this footwear is depicted on a 9th-century ceramic bowl from Persia.[3][4]
It is sometimes suggested that raised heels were a response to the problem of the rider's foot slipping forward in stirrups while riding.[3] The "rider's heel", approximately 1 1⁄2 inches (3.8 cm) high, appeared in Europe around 1600.[2] The leading edge was canted forward to help grip the stirrup, and the trailing edge was canted forward to prevent the elongated heel from catching on underbrush or rock while backing up, such as in on-foot combat. These features are evident today in riding boots, notably cowboy boots.
Ancient Egypt
Early depictions of high heels could be seen on ancient Egyptian murals, dating back to 3500 BC. These murals would depict Egyptian nobilities wearing heels to set them apart from the lower class, who would normally go barefoot. Heeled shoes were worn by both men and women, and most commonly for ceremonial purposes. However, high heels also served a practical purpose for Egyptian butchers who wore them in order to walk over the bloodied bodies of animal carcasses. During Egyptian times, heels were leather pieces that were held together by lacing to form the symbol of “Ankh”, signifying life.[5]
Ancient Greece and Rome
Platform sandals called “kothorni” or “buskins” were shoes with high wooden cork soles worn during ancient Greek and Roman era. They were particularly popular among the actors who would wear them to differentiate the social classes and importance of each character. In ancient Rome, where sex trade was legal, high heels were used to identify those within the trade to potential clients and high heels became associated with prostitution.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-heeled_footwear#Ancient_Egypt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-heeled_footwear#Ancient_Egypt
20 December 2015 02:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lol.. some more origins... lol how easy is to rip a part of these research.. will not waste space on it to much right ow
Homosexual behavior in animals is extremely well documented. While it occurs in virtually ever species capable of sexual reproduction, it is most prevalent among the most intelligent and highly-developed mammals such as marine mammals, primates, and of course humans.
Gospel singers, Ray and Laura Lewis have produced a music video called, "Come On Down to the Farm." This cute and relatively inoffensive anti-gay propaganda espouses an anti-gay message based on biblical teachings and their farm life observations.
The producers and sympathetic viewers of this video will undoubtedly be perplexed by the existence of the two male penguins, Roy & Silo, a same sex couple who copulated with each other, and then tried to hatch a rock until they were given a real fertile egg by zookeepers. Roy & Silo raised their new baby together, named Tango, who ultimately made the “choice” to become gay, just like her adopted gay parents.
Roy & Silo were together as a couple 6 years...Silo later had a fling with a female penguin named Scrappy, but it didn’t work out and now Roy & Silo are both single. Silo’s experience is not so unlike Elton John’s brief marriage to Renate Blauel...Sometimes it just takes a while to find out who we really are...
The list of animals exhibiting homosexual behavior includes animals (birds, mammals, insects, fish etc.) for which there is documented evidence of homosexual or transgender behavior of one or more of the following kinds: sex, courtship, affection, pair bonding, or parenting, as noted in researcher and author Bruce Bagemihl's 1999 book Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity.
Bagemihl devotes three chapters; Two Hundred Years at Looking at Homosexual Wildlife, Explaining (Away) Animal Homosexuality and Not For Breeding Only in his 1999 book Biological Exuberance to the "documentation of systematic prejudices" where he notes "the present ignorance of biology lies precisely in its single-minded attempt to find reproductive (or other) "explanations" for homosexuality, transgender, and non-procreative and alternative heterosexualities.
Petter Bockman, academic adviser for the Against Nature? exhibit states: "Many researchers have described homosexuality as something altogether different from sex. They must realize that animals can have sex with who they will, when they will and without consideration to a researcher's ethical principles." Homosexual behavior is widespread amongst social birds and mammals, particularly the sea mammals and the primates. Bockman says, "No species has been found in which homosexual behavior has not been shown to exist, with the exception of species that never have sex at all, such as sea urchins and aphids. Moreover, a part of the animal kingdom is hermaphroditic, truly bisexual. For them, homosexuality is not an issue."
http://www.algbtical.org/2A%20ORIGINS.htm
its like cancer is also in birds.. so its "normal" so it is good.. what a logic..
Homosexual behavior in animals is extremely well documented. While it occurs in virtually ever species capable of sexual reproduction, it is most prevalent among the most intelligent and highly-developed mammals such as marine mammals, primates, and of course humans.
Gospel singers, Ray and Laura Lewis have produced a music video called, "Come On Down to the Farm." This cute and relatively inoffensive anti-gay propaganda espouses an anti-gay message based on biblical teachings and their farm life observations.
The producers and sympathetic viewers of this video will undoubtedly be perplexed by the existence of the two male penguins, Roy & Silo, a same sex couple who copulated with each other, and then tried to hatch a rock until they were given a real fertile egg by zookeepers. Roy & Silo raised their new baby together, named Tango, who ultimately made the “choice” to become gay, just like her adopted gay parents.
Roy & Silo were together as a couple 6 years...Silo later had a fling with a female penguin named Scrappy, but it didn’t work out and now Roy & Silo are both single. Silo’s experience is not so unlike Elton John’s brief marriage to Renate Blauel...Sometimes it just takes a while to find out who we really are...
The list of animals exhibiting homosexual behavior includes animals (birds, mammals, insects, fish etc.) for which there is documented evidence of homosexual or transgender behavior of one or more of the following kinds: sex, courtship, affection, pair bonding, or parenting, as noted in researcher and author Bruce Bagemihl's 1999 book Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity.
Bagemihl devotes three chapters; Two Hundred Years at Looking at Homosexual Wildlife, Explaining (Away) Animal Homosexuality and Not For Breeding Only in his 1999 book Biological Exuberance to the "documentation of systematic prejudices" where he notes "the present ignorance of biology lies precisely in its single-minded attempt to find reproductive (or other) "explanations" for homosexuality, transgender, and non-procreative and alternative heterosexualities.
Petter Bockman, academic adviser for the Against Nature? exhibit states: "Many researchers have described homosexuality as something altogether different from sex. They must realize that animals can have sex with who they will, when they will and without consideration to a researcher's ethical principles." Homosexual behavior is widespread amongst social birds and mammals, particularly the sea mammals and the primates. Bockman says, "No species has been found in which homosexual behavior has not been shown to exist, with the exception of species that never have sex at all, such as sea urchins and aphids. Moreover, a part of the animal kingdom is hermaphroditic, truly bisexual. For them, homosexuality is not an issue."
http://www.algbtical.org/2A%20ORIGINS.htm
its like cancer is also in birds.. so its "normal" so it is good.. what a logic..
20 December 2015 02:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and tis one gos few post ack under allegrio post
I have read a bit about how the raid on the Stonewall Inn in 1969, and how it was such a flash point in the gay rights struggle. But why did cops raid gay bars in the first place?
One reason of which I am familiar, as communicated to me by my husband who lived and was an observer of police raids in the 1950s, was to remove government military members from such establishments.
Occurring in Houston, TX, in the 1950s, there were several military installations located near and around the city. The Air Force, Navy, and Coast Guard were the most predominate, but there were also Marines and Army personnel who were assigned. The government, having seen that homosexuals could be blackmailed because of their need to maintain a secret life (mostly as a result of the policies that were discriminatory against the group), tried to get their personnel rounded up and discharged from service to prevent a situation where blackmail could be used.
As a result, the Military Police would, in conjunction with the local constabulary, plan raids of known establishments that catered to homosexual clientele. As my husband relates it,
https://www.quora.com/Why-did-the-police-raid-gay-establishments-like-the-Stonewall-Inn
I have read a bit about how the raid on the Stonewall Inn in 1969, and how it was such a flash point in the gay rights struggle. But why did cops raid gay bars in the first place?
One reason of which I am familiar, as communicated to me by my husband who lived and was an observer of police raids in the 1950s, was to remove government military members from such establishments.
Occurring in Houston, TX, in the 1950s, there were several military installations located near and around the city. The Air Force, Navy, and Coast Guard were the most predominate, but there were also Marines and Army personnel who were assigned. The government, having seen that homosexuals could be blackmailed because of their need to maintain a secret life (mostly as a result of the policies that were discriminatory against the group), tried to get their personnel rounded up and discharged from service to prevent a situation where blackmail could be used.
As a result, the Military Police would, in conjunction with the local constabulary, plan raids of known establishments that catered to homosexual clientele. As my husband relates it,
https://www.quora.com/Why-did-the-police-raid-gay-establishments-like-the-Stonewall-Inn
20 December 2015 02:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
One more shoes feminist thingy... should have grouped it...
"Are you overdue for a reminder that your high-heeled shoes are nothing more than pretty, pretty evidence of your status as a quisling to your sex? Well, the Chicago Tribune has an op-ed about the horribleness of heels and the women who wear them.
Why? Because heels aren’t to the personal taste of the author, a woman named Jennifer Moses, who still bears the emotional scars inflicted by a pair of "pointy-toed black suede heels" that she wore to a bar mitzvah only to be felled by calf cramps during the Torah reading. High heels, writes Moses, are an attack on women’s very dignity.
It strikes me as bizarre that in the aftermath of feminism, American women, who are perhaps the most liberated women in the history of humanity, choose, of our own free wills, to cripple ourselves. Now we can barely stand at all, let alone march for our rights, in our 6-inch heels. […]
As far as I can tell, there has never been a time in the history of womankind that shoes haven’t been a source of longing, envy and even lust. But not among men: Unless they’re shoe designers, men don’t think twice about women’s shoes. No matter how much women are told that high heels elongate and enhance the shapes of our legs and add a sexy sizzle to our walks, I suspect men don’t so much as notice shoes.
High heels are indicative of a widespread, virulent, anti-feminist cultural misogyny — and by the way girls, you don’t even need to wear ’em to snag a man!
Boxes ticked on the anti-high-heels-op-ed bingo card include: Chinese foot-binding; Sex And The City; Manolo Blahnik; I Read A Wikipedia Page About The History Of Footwear Late Last Night On Deadline And Here Are Some Things I Learned (About Chopines); Straight men don’t even notice shoes; The word "Cripple"; You can’t be a feminist in heels; High heels are a conspiracy by gay men to keep women in their place. (The author includes Prada, Gucci, and Versace on her list of "women’s shoe designers [who] are men." Nobody had better tell Miuccia, Frida, and Donatella.)
Listen. If you don’t like high heels, nobody wants you to have to wear them. Really. That is why the good Lord made free will and cute flats! I understand that many women don’t find high heels to be comfortable, practical, or even desirable. That is a perfectly reasonable way to feel. Good for you, person who likes to wear flats. Flats are always a good choice.
But don’t tell those of us who — sometimes! — do like to wear heels that we’re bad feminists, or stupid ladies who must have been brainwashed into acting against our own interests by Big Fashion. Wearing heels doesn’t necessarily make you a good feminist — the point is that feminism has less to do with what you put on your feet than what you put in your head. And are we seriously still arguing that our clothing choices make women victims? Because I know a feminist movement that might take issue with that sentiment."
http://highheelsformen.org/wearing-heels-does-not-make-you-a-bad-feminist/
"Are you overdue for a reminder that your high-heeled shoes are nothing more than pretty, pretty evidence of your status as a quisling to your sex? Well, the Chicago Tribune has an op-ed about the horribleness of heels and the women who wear them.
Why? Because heels aren’t to the personal taste of the author, a woman named Jennifer Moses, who still bears the emotional scars inflicted by a pair of "pointy-toed black suede heels" that she wore to a bar mitzvah only to be felled by calf cramps during the Torah reading. High heels, writes Moses, are an attack on women’s very dignity.
It strikes me as bizarre that in the aftermath of feminism, American women, who are perhaps the most liberated women in the history of humanity, choose, of our own free wills, to cripple ourselves. Now we can barely stand at all, let alone march for our rights, in our 6-inch heels. […]
As far as I can tell, there has never been a time in the history of womankind that shoes haven’t been a source of longing, envy and even lust. But not among men: Unless they’re shoe designers, men don’t think twice about women’s shoes. No matter how much women are told that high heels elongate and enhance the shapes of our legs and add a sexy sizzle to our walks, I suspect men don’t so much as notice shoes.
High heels are indicative of a widespread, virulent, anti-feminist cultural misogyny — and by the way girls, you don’t even need to wear ’em to snag a man!
Boxes ticked on the anti-high-heels-op-ed bingo card include: Chinese foot-binding; Sex And The City; Manolo Blahnik; I Read A Wikipedia Page About The History Of Footwear Late Last Night On Deadline And Here Are Some Things I Learned (About Chopines); Straight men don’t even notice shoes; The word "Cripple"; You can’t be a feminist in heels; High heels are a conspiracy by gay men to keep women in their place. (The author includes Prada, Gucci, and Versace on her list of "women’s shoe designers [who] are men." Nobody had better tell Miuccia, Frida, and Donatella.)
Listen. If you don’t like high heels, nobody wants you to have to wear them. Really. That is why the good Lord made free will and cute flats! I understand that many women don’t find high heels to be comfortable, practical, or even desirable. That is a perfectly reasonable way to feel. Good for you, person who likes to wear flats. Flats are always a good choice.
But don’t tell those of us who — sometimes! — do like to wear heels that we’re bad feminists, or stupid ladies who must have been brainwashed into acting against our own interests by Big Fashion. Wearing heels doesn’t necessarily make you a good feminist — the point is that feminism has less to do with what you put on your feet than what you put in your head. And are we seriously still arguing that our clothing choices make women victims? Because I know a feminist movement that might take issue with that sentiment."
http://highheelsformen.org/wearing-heels-does-not-make-you-a-bad-feminist/
http://highheelsformen.org/wearing-heels-does-not-make-you-a-bad-feminist/
20 December 2015 02:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but there have been may other bad they have put on us..
Well.. gaga did it to .. so u wil start to pay attention to these things.. silly..
"Alexander McQueen in 2010 released a set of armadillo shoes. They were then popularized by the likes of “Lady” Gaga, and other celebrities, who are not too worried about looking utterly ridiculous in public. The shoes above were the originals – many other styles have since followed. My advice to any real ladies reading this list – don’t buy these awful shoes!"
http://listverse.com/2010/08/14/top-10-most-bizarre-shoes-in-history/
Well.. gaga did it to .. so u wil start to pay attention to these things.. silly..
"Alexander McQueen in 2010 released a set of armadillo shoes. They were then popularized by the likes of “Lady” Gaga, and other celebrities, who are not too worried about looking utterly ridiculous in public. The shoes above were the originals – many other styles have since followed. My advice to any real ladies reading this list – don’t buy these awful shoes!"
http://listverse.com/2010/08/14/top-10-most-bizarre-shoes-in-history/
20 December 2015 02:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
for ending notes some pafes for anoter extra fut references..
Location: 1412 Spruce St.
Period in existence: 1948-1980
The Allegro was perhaps the most popular gay bar in Center City. It occupied three floors of a brick building that may originally have been a townhouse. While it was popular and often crowded, there were times in the early 1970s when it was also the object of some protests and boycotting by members of the gay community for two particular reasons that I recall. One was a "dress code" that forbade wearing hats or open-toed shoes or high heels, the former ban aimed at excluding African Americans, many of whom were accustomed to wearing hats in that era, and the latter aimed at excluding women and male transvestites. Another serious concern was one of safety, as periodic examination of the fire escape doors on the upper floors found that they were at times chained and padlocked, creating a dangerous hazard in the event of fire. A campaign to see that these doors were kept unlocked did succeed for a time. -- Bob Stewart
https://gayhistory.wikispaces.com/Allegro
Location: 1412 Spruce St.
Period in existence: 1948-1980
The Allegro was perhaps the most popular gay bar in Center City. It occupied three floors of a brick building that may originally have been a townhouse. While it was popular and often crowded, there were times in the early 1970s when it was also the object of some protests and boycotting by members of the gay community for two particular reasons that I recall. One was a "dress code" that forbade wearing hats or open-toed shoes or high heels, the former ban aimed at excluding African Americans, many of whom were accustomed to wearing hats in that era, and the latter aimed at excluding women and male transvestites. Another serious concern was one of safety, as periodic examination of the fire escape doors on the upper floors found that they were at times chained and padlocked, creating a dangerous hazard in the event of fire. A campaign to see that these doors were kept unlocked did succeed for a time. -- Bob Stewart
https://gayhistory.wikispaces.com/Allegro
https://gayhistory.wikispaces.com/Allegro
20 December 2015 02:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Some books between..
https://books.google.ee/books?id=9QPsRC7nps0C&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+Meaning+of+Gay:+Interaction,+Publicity,+and+Community+Among+Homosexual+...&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJ8aLDlOnJAhWG73IKHeGzCbUQ6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=The%20Meaning%20of%20Gay%3A%20Interaction%2C%20Publicity%2C%20and%20Community%20Among%20Homosexual%20...&f=false
https://books.google.ee/books?id=9QPsRC7nps0C&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+Meaning+of+Gay:+Interaction,+Publicity,+and+Community+Among+Homosexual+...&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJ8aLDlOnJAhWG73IKHeGzCbUQ6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=The%20Meaning%20of%20Gay%3A%20Interaction%2C%20Publicity%2C%20and%20Community%20Among%20Homosexual%20...&f=false
https://books.google.ee/books?id=9QPsRC7nps0C&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+Meaning+of+Gay%3A+Interaction%2C+Publicity%2C+and+Community+Among+Homosexual+...&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJ8aLDlOnJAhWG73IKHeGzCbUQ6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=The%20Meaning%20of%20Gay%3A%20Interaction%2C%20Publicity%2C%20and%20Community%20Among%20Homosexual%20...&f=false
20 December 2015 02:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Women started wearing heels as a way of trying to appropriate masculine power. In the BBC article on the topic, Elizabeth Semmelhack, who curates a shoe museum, explains:
In the 1630s you had women cutting their hair, adding epaulettes to their outfits...
They would smoke pipes, they would wear hats that were very masculine. And this is why women adopted the heel -- it was in an effort to masculinise their outfits.
The lower classes also began to wear high heels, as fashions typically filter down from elite.
How did the elite respond to imitation from "lesser" people: women and workers? First, the heels worn by the elite became increasingly high in order to maintain upper class distinction. And second, heels were differentiated into two types: fat and skinny. Fat heels were for men, skinny for women.
This is a beautiful illustration of Pierre Bourdieu's theory of class distinction. Bourdieu argued that aesthetic choices function as markers of class difference. Accordingly, the elite will take action to present themselves differently than non-elites, choosing different clothing, food, decor, etc. Expensive prices help keep certain things the province of elites, allowing them to signify their power; but imitation is inevitable. Once something no longer effectively differentiates the rich from the rest, the rich will drop it. This, I argue elsewhere, is why some people care about counterfeit purses (because it's not about the quality, it's about the distinction).
Eventually, men quit wearing heels because their association with women tainted their power as a status symbol for men. (This, by the way, is exactly what happened with cheerleading, originally exclusively for men.) With the Enlightenment, which emphasized rationality (i.e., practical footwear), everyone quit wearing high heels.
What brought heels back for women? Pornography. Mid-19th century pornographers began posing female nudes in high heels, and the rest is history
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-wade/high-heel-history_b_2613029.html
In the 1630s you had women cutting their hair, adding epaulettes to their outfits...
They would smoke pipes, they would wear hats that were very masculine. And this is why women adopted the heel -- it was in an effort to masculinise their outfits.
The lower classes also began to wear high heels, as fashions typically filter down from elite.
How did the elite respond to imitation from "lesser" people: women and workers? First, the heels worn by the elite became increasingly high in order to maintain upper class distinction. And second, heels were differentiated into two types: fat and skinny. Fat heels were for men, skinny for women.
This is a beautiful illustration of Pierre Bourdieu's theory of class distinction. Bourdieu argued that aesthetic choices function as markers of class difference. Accordingly, the elite will take action to present themselves differently than non-elites, choosing different clothing, food, decor, etc. Expensive prices help keep certain things the province of elites, allowing them to signify their power; but imitation is inevitable. Once something no longer effectively differentiates the rich from the rest, the rich will drop it. This, I argue elsewhere, is why some people care about counterfeit purses (because it's not about the quality, it's about the distinction).
Eventually, men quit wearing heels because their association with women tainted their power as a status symbol for men. (This, by the way, is exactly what happened with cheerleading, originally exclusively for men.) With the Enlightenment, which emphasized rationality (i.e., practical footwear), everyone quit wearing high heels.
What brought heels back for women? Pornography. Mid-19th century pornographers began posing female nudes in high heels, and the rest is history
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-wade/high-heel-history_b_2613029.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-wade/high-heel-history_b_2613029.html
20 December 2015 02:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
top of another japan story..
It seems that aside from the heat relief, men too are feeling self-conscious about the blemish inducing effects of sunlight and hope to maintain an even white pallor in the country where “you look pale” is considered a compliment.
This is also as umbrella designers are tapping deeper into what men want in a parasol. While frilly lace and flowers are clearly out of the question, manufacturers are putting out “function-over-form” parasols that have the ability to withstand both sun and heavy rain or can open and shut automatically with the touch of a button.
The style of the fabric is important as well with many patterns featuring dark colors or dress shirt type stripes and tones. Kazuhiro Miyatake of the Shinsaibashi Miyatake umbrella shop in Osaka goes one step further, selling parasols with stylish skulls printed on them.
Miyatake was well ahead of his time selling men’s parasols for 15 years now, he too claimed to only have sold 10 in his first year, but now is selling about 1,000 every 12 months. Girlfriends and daughters have bought them as presents and more than a few young male professionals such as salesmen who have to walk long distances outdoors are getting in on it too.
Despite the increase in male parasol use, it’s still not exactly a habit taking the nation by storm. The fundamental emasculating effects of toting around a typically feminine accoutrement are hard for a lot of guys to get over.
According to a study by the Ministry of Environment in 2011, it was determined that walking outside without a suit jacket would reduce heat stress by 10%. Moreover taking off one’s jacket and using a parasol would bump that relief up to 20% and be on par with walking under a tree-lined street. If results like that make you want to become one of the trailblazing parasol-using males in Japan you can check out Miyatake’s selection online or contact an umbrella dealer near you.
http://www.japantoday.com/category/lifestyle/view/japan-and-the-rise-of-the-male-parasol
It seems that aside from the heat relief, men too are feeling self-conscious about the blemish inducing effects of sunlight and hope to maintain an even white pallor in the country where “you look pale” is considered a compliment.
This is also as umbrella designers are tapping deeper into what men want in a parasol. While frilly lace and flowers are clearly out of the question, manufacturers are putting out “function-over-form” parasols that have the ability to withstand both sun and heavy rain or can open and shut automatically with the touch of a button.
The style of the fabric is important as well with many patterns featuring dark colors or dress shirt type stripes and tones. Kazuhiro Miyatake of the Shinsaibashi Miyatake umbrella shop in Osaka goes one step further, selling parasols with stylish skulls printed on them.
Miyatake was well ahead of his time selling men’s parasols for 15 years now, he too claimed to only have sold 10 in his first year, but now is selling about 1,000 every 12 months. Girlfriends and daughters have bought them as presents and more than a few young male professionals such as salesmen who have to walk long distances outdoors are getting in on it too.
Despite the increase in male parasol use, it’s still not exactly a habit taking the nation by storm. The fundamental emasculating effects of toting around a typically feminine accoutrement are hard for a lot of guys to get over.
According to a study by the Ministry of Environment in 2011, it was determined that walking outside without a suit jacket would reduce heat stress by 10%. Moreover taking off one’s jacket and using a parasol would bump that relief up to 20% and be on par with walking under a tree-lined street. If results like that make you want to become one of the trailblazing parasol-using males in Japan you can check out Miyatake’s selection online or contact an umbrella dealer near you.
http://www.japantoday.com/category/lifestyle/view/japan-and-the-rise-of-the-male-parasol
http://www.japantoday.com/category/lifestyle/view/japan-and-the-rise-of-the-male-parasol
20 December 2015 02:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
more... the same
Did you know that gay men flocked from the outskirts of the metropolis by public transport to go “gay clubbing” or cruising back in the 18th century – just as they do now – that gay marriage ceremonies were performed in medieval times, gay erotica existed before even the Roman and Greek empires, drag queen contests were held as long ago as the 1720s, lesbian pirates fought and robbed alongside their more famous male contemporaries in the 16th century, or that the battle for gay equality was being fought in the Victorian age?
LGBT History Month throughout February in the UK provides a vital focus on the art and writings of our predecessors, and the many and varied events that are organised across the country foster and improve our knowledge of LGBT history and experience, celebrate positive LGBT contributions to British society, and heighten the confidence and awareness of LGBT people and their cultural heritage.
“Queer history is about queer experience, not about straight attitudes. Queer history is about love amongst queers, not about laws against queers. Queer history relies more on information from queers than information about queers.” – LGBT historian Rictor Norton.
In Islington and Camden alone, we have more than 45 events on a variety of topics including LGBT historical perspectives on science, religion, political activism and sex, drama, poetry, literature, comedy and film, and in a range of eras from the phallus-worship of Ancient Egypt, to the infamous “molly-houses” of Georgian London, to the lives of 19th century gay eccentrics Tchaikovsky, Aleister Crowley and the magnificent “Fanny and Stella”, to lesbian and gay oral history in the 20th century and the impact of the AIDS crisis.
Above all, LGBT History Month is about us. It is for us. There is something for people of all ages, societies and backgrounds. As civil rights campaigner Marcus Garvey said, “A people without the knowledge of their past history, origin and culture is like a tree without roots.” Without a knowledge or understanding of where our cultural identity came from, how can we understand where we sit in current society?
It is AIDS activist Larry Kramer who sums it up best of all in his play “The Normal Heart”:
“I belong to a culture that includes Proust, Henry James, Tchaikovsky, Cole Porter, Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, Alexander the Great, Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Christopher Marlowe, Walt Whitman, Herman Melville, Tennessee Williams, Byron, E. M. Forster, Lorca, Auden, Francis Bacon, James Baldwin, Harry Stack Sullivan, John Maynard Keynes, Dag Hammarskjöld… These were not invisible men.”
http://www.beigeuk.com/2013/02/celebrating-our-past-why-i-love-lgbt-history-month/
Read the full list of events here: www.islington.gov.uk/lgbthistory
Did you know that gay men flocked from the outskirts of the metropolis by public transport to go “gay clubbing” or cruising back in the 18th century – just as they do now – that gay marriage ceremonies were performed in medieval times, gay erotica existed before even the Roman and Greek empires, drag queen contests were held as long ago as the 1720s, lesbian pirates fought and robbed alongside their more famous male contemporaries in the 16th century, or that the battle for gay equality was being fought in the Victorian age?
LGBT History Month throughout February in the UK provides a vital focus on the art and writings of our predecessors, and the many and varied events that are organised across the country foster and improve our knowledge of LGBT history and experience, celebrate positive LGBT contributions to British society, and heighten the confidence and awareness of LGBT people and their cultural heritage.
“Queer history is about queer experience, not about straight attitudes. Queer history is about love amongst queers, not about laws against queers. Queer history relies more on information from queers than information about queers.” – LGBT historian Rictor Norton.
In Islington and Camden alone, we have more than 45 events on a variety of topics including LGBT historical perspectives on science, religion, political activism and sex, drama, poetry, literature, comedy and film, and in a range of eras from the phallus-worship of Ancient Egypt, to the infamous “molly-houses” of Georgian London, to the lives of 19th century gay eccentrics Tchaikovsky, Aleister Crowley and the magnificent “Fanny and Stella”, to lesbian and gay oral history in the 20th century and the impact of the AIDS crisis.
Above all, LGBT History Month is about us. It is for us. There is something for people of all ages, societies and backgrounds. As civil rights campaigner Marcus Garvey said, “A people without the knowledge of their past history, origin and culture is like a tree without roots.” Without a knowledge or understanding of where our cultural identity came from, how can we understand where we sit in current society?
It is AIDS activist Larry Kramer who sums it up best of all in his play “The Normal Heart”:
“I belong to a culture that includes Proust, Henry James, Tchaikovsky, Cole Porter, Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, Alexander the Great, Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Christopher Marlowe, Walt Whitman, Herman Melville, Tennessee Williams, Byron, E. M. Forster, Lorca, Auden, Francis Bacon, James Baldwin, Harry Stack Sullivan, John Maynard Keynes, Dag Hammarskjöld… These were not invisible men.”
http://www.beigeuk.com/2013/02/celebrating-our-past-why-i-love-lgbt-history-month/
Read the full list of events here: www.islington.gov.uk/lgbthistory
20 December 2015 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
top of another femist story
lol
"Listen. If you don't like high heels, nobody wants you to have to wear them. Really. That is why the good Lord made free will and cute flats! I understand that many women don't find high heels to be comfortable, practical, or even desirable. That is a perfectly reasonable way to feel. Good for you, person who likes to wear flats. Flats are always a good choice.
But don't tell those of us who — sometimes! — do like to wear heels that we're bad feminists, or stupid ladies who must have been brainwashed into acting against our own interests by Big Fashion. Wearing heels doesn't necessarily make you a good feminist — the point is that feminism has less to do with what you put on your feet than what you put in your head. And are we seriously still arguing that our clothing choices make women victims? Because I know a feminist movement that might take issue with that sentiment."
http://jezebel.com/5895613/wearing-heels-does-not-make-you-a-bad-feminist
http://jezebel.com/slutwalk/
lol.. slutwalk.. seriouslly..
lol
"Listen. If you don't like high heels, nobody wants you to have to wear them. Really. That is why the good Lord made free will and cute flats! I understand that many women don't find high heels to be comfortable, practical, or even desirable. That is a perfectly reasonable way to feel. Good for you, person who likes to wear flats. Flats are always a good choice.
But don't tell those of us who — sometimes! — do like to wear heels that we're bad feminists, or stupid ladies who must have been brainwashed into acting against our own interests by Big Fashion. Wearing heels doesn't necessarily make you a good feminist — the point is that feminism has less to do with what you put on your feet than what you put in your head. And are we seriously still arguing that our clothing choices make women victims? Because I know a feminist movement that might take issue with that sentiment."
http://jezebel.com/5895613/wearing-heels-does-not-make-you-a-bad-feminist
http://jezebel.com/slutwalk/
lol.. slutwalk.. seriouslly..
http://jezebel.com/5895613/wearing-heels-does-not-make-you-a-bad-feminist
20 December 2015 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I'm a straight guy. I'm certainly not anti-gay, and I don't consider myself homophobic at all. I've had one gay friend (that I know of), and his sexuality was never an issue with me. Basically we just never talked about it.
But some things about gay culture really confuse me. I was brought up Southern Baptist, and obviously taught that homosexuality was a sin and unnatural and all that so I'm coming from a rather skewed perspective.
What I'm wondering is this, why is it that gay men often exhibit feminine characteristics such as speaking effiminately? And why is "drag" popular among gays? Both of these would seem to suggest that gay men, in some way, really are attracted to women, or at least femininity in some form.
Likewise with lesbians, contrary to what is portrayed in porno, most lesbian women I see cut their hair very short and dress more like men dress. This too would suggest that gay women are actually attracted to masculinity in some way.
To put it in another light, if my wife decided to put on a fake moustache and start speaking in a low voice like a man, I wouldn't be turned on by this at all (silly analogy, but hopefully you get the point).
I realize I'm advancing stereotypes here, but I've seen this with my own eyes, and I've never quite understood it. I know their are gay DUers here, just wondering if they could help shed some light on this. :D
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x166168
key word :PRETEND
"
I like to do drag every once in a while. Not often, maybe once or twice a year, for parties. Let me be clear about this: for me, it has nothing to do with an attraction to the opposite sex. It's something I like to do for fun. I can dress up as somebody else and pretend to be someone I'm not for a night. Plus I get to shock some people, which is always fun in my book. It's almost like Halloween, except I'm guaranteed to get to wear fake boobs."
But some things about gay culture really confuse me. I was brought up Southern Baptist, and obviously taught that homosexuality was a sin and unnatural and all that so I'm coming from a rather skewed perspective.
What I'm wondering is this, why is it that gay men often exhibit feminine characteristics such as speaking effiminately? And why is "drag" popular among gays? Both of these would seem to suggest that gay men, in some way, really are attracted to women, or at least femininity in some form.
Likewise with lesbians, contrary to what is portrayed in porno, most lesbian women I see cut their hair very short and dress more like men dress. This too would suggest that gay women are actually attracted to masculinity in some way.
To put it in another light, if my wife decided to put on a fake moustache and start speaking in a low voice like a man, I wouldn't be turned on by this at all (silly analogy, but hopefully you get the point).
I realize I'm advancing stereotypes here, but I've seen this with my own eyes, and I've never quite understood it. I know their are gay DUers here, just wondering if they could help shed some light on this. :D
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x166168
key word :PRETEND
"
I like to do drag every once in a while. Not often, maybe once or twice a year, for parties. Let me be clear about this: for me, it has nothing to do with an attraction to the opposite sex. It's something I like to do for fun. I can dress up as somebody else and pretend to be someone I'm not for a night. Plus I get to shock some people, which is always fun in my book. It's almost like Halloween, except I'm guaranteed to get to wear fake boobs."
20 December 2015 02:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
1. PANTYHOSE
In 1953, Ethel Boone Gant was feeling uncomfortable. While sitting on an overnight train from New York to North Carolina, the expectant mother leaned over to her husband, Allen, and told him that she wasn’t going to travel anymore. At least, not until their baby was born. At the time, women wore stockings held up with girdles or garter belts— annoying when paired with a growing belly. The complaint gave Allen an idea. He asked his wife to clip a pair of stockings to her underwear and try them instead—a crude prototype for the pantyhose was born. Allen, who happened to be the head of a textile company, spent the next six years developing his product, and in 1959 “Panti-Legs” hit the shelves. As spandex got cheaper and miniskirts became all the rage in the ’60s, the product soon became a staple.
2. THE 3-BUTTON SUIT
Growing bellies actually account for a lot of fashion trends. King Edward VII, for instance, was a legendary eater. With an expanding 48-inch waist, he often kept his bottom jacket button undone. Soon, the style became a trend and the “sometimes, always, never” rule (for the top, middle, and lower buttons) became a hard and fast fashion commandment. In fact, many jackets today are designed to leave the bottom button undone.
3. CUFFED JACKET SLEEVES
he buttons on most blazer sleeves are functionally useless, but some jackets still sport a “surgeon’s cuff”—a relic from the 19th century. Back then, a proper gentleman never removed his coat, not even to perform the 1800s version of emergency open-heart surgery. So men tailored suits to their needs, allowing for the possibility that they may need to do an off-the-cuff operation. The buttons allowed men to curl back their sleeves and get their hands dirty while retaining dashing decency.
4. EYELINER
If ancient Egyptians could tell us anything about living in the desert, it would be that the sun can get unbearably bright. It didn’t help that the pyramids in Cairo were made of white limestone. So the locals rubbed kohl around their eyes to reduce the glare (the same way athletes do today). The eyeliner had a cooling effect, repelled flies, kept dust away from the eyes, and may have prevented infections because it contained lead salts, a bacteria killer.
5. HIGH HEELS
riginally for soldiers, high heels were once the manliest thing a person could wear. A high heel allowed a cavalryman to lock into his horse’s stirrup and keep his balance as he stood to draw a bow. In the 16th century, Persian royals visited Western Europe, and the look caught on; soon elites were flaunting their status by upping the height of their shoes. King Louis XIV (who stood at a modest 5 feet, 4 inches) insisted on parading about in four-inch red heels. At the same time, women started wearing the heels for the opposite reason they do today—to appear androgynous. By the end of the 17th century, the unisex style had become gendered: Men’s heels were square and wide; women’s were pointy and slender. When the Enlightenment ushered in practical dress, men abandoned the style completely.
6. SEQUINS
When it comes to bling, Liberace and Richard Simmons have nothing on King Tut. The boy king had gold disks sewn into his garments, possibly with the hope of using them in the afterlife. Thousands of years later, from Peru to India, sewing gold and other metals onto your clothes became a sign of wealth and a way to protect yourself from evil spirits. Which explains a lot about the 1970s
http://mentalfloss.com/article/60860/6-very-old-fashions-are-still-style
In 1953, Ethel Boone Gant was feeling uncomfortable. While sitting on an overnight train from New York to North Carolina, the expectant mother leaned over to her husband, Allen, and told him that she wasn’t going to travel anymore. At least, not until their baby was born. At the time, women wore stockings held up with girdles or garter belts— annoying when paired with a growing belly. The complaint gave Allen an idea. He asked his wife to clip a pair of stockings to her underwear and try them instead—a crude prototype for the pantyhose was born. Allen, who happened to be the head of a textile company, spent the next six years developing his product, and in 1959 “Panti-Legs” hit the shelves. As spandex got cheaper and miniskirts became all the rage in the ’60s, the product soon became a staple.
2. THE 3-BUTTON SUIT
Growing bellies actually account for a lot of fashion trends. King Edward VII, for instance, was a legendary eater. With an expanding 48-inch waist, he often kept his bottom jacket button undone. Soon, the style became a trend and the “sometimes, always, never” rule (for the top, middle, and lower buttons) became a hard and fast fashion commandment. In fact, many jackets today are designed to leave the bottom button undone.
3. CUFFED JACKET SLEEVES
he buttons on most blazer sleeves are functionally useless, but some jackets still sport a “surgeon’s cuff”—a relic from the 19th century. Back then, a proper gentleman never removed his coat, not even to perform the 1800s version of emergency open-heart surgery. So men tailored suits to their needs, allowing for the possibility that they may need to do an off-the-cuff operation. The buttons allowed men to curl back their sleeves and get their hands dirty while retaining dashing decency.
4. EYELINER
If ancient Egyptians could tell us anything about living in the desert, it would be that the sun can get unbearably bright. It didn’t help that the pyramids in Cairo were made of white limestone. So the locals rubbed kohl around their eyes to reduce the glare (the same way athletes do today). The eyeliner had a cooling effect, repelled flies, kept dust away from the eyes, and may have prevented infections because it contained lead salts, a bacteria killer.
5. HIGH HEELS
riginally for soldiers, high heels were once the manliest thing a person could wear. A high heel allowed a cavalryman to lock into his horse’s stirrup and keep his balance as he stood to draw a bow. In the 16th century, Persian royals visited Western Europe, and the look caught on; soon elites were flaunting their status by upping the height of their shoes. King Louis XIV (who stood at a modest 5 feet, 4 inches) insisted on parading about in four-inch red heels. At the same time, women started wearing the heels for the opposite reason they do today—to appear androgynous. By the end of the 17th century, the unisex style had become gendered: Men’s heels were square and wide; women’s were pointy and slender. When the Enlightenment ushered in practical dress, men abandoned the style completely.
6. SEQUINS
When it comes to bling, Liberace and Richard Simmons have nothing on King Tut. The boy king had gold disks sewn into his garments, possibly with the hope of using them in the afterlife. Thousands of years later, from Peru to India, sewing gold and other metals onto your clothes became a sign of wealth and a way to protect yourself from evil spirits. Which explains a lot about the 1970s
http://mentalfloss.com/article/60860/6-very-old-fashions-are-still-style
http://mentalfloss.com/article/60860/6-very-old-fashions-are-still-style
20 December 2015 02:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"many bosy women... " well.. that was standard, in hebrew culture where anyone below that was stoned , so to speak :D
"They ordered the men around - there are many stories of bossy women and subordinate men," she said. "We know this from the literature of the 16th century, and it hasn't changed."
Modern Dutch men are expected to share the chores at home, "without being told, or when told," de Bruin said. The Dutch woman "wants the man to do housework to help her feel equal, but he has to do it her way."
Which perhaps raises the question, do Dutch men get depressed?
Not much, according to de Bruin, who says that the behavior of the sexes evolved simultaneously, that Dutch men like their women bossy while Dutch women are not keen on macho men. Still, she sympathizes with men who have to negotiate a jungle of rules that they never understand and that are always set by women.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/06/arts/06iht-happy.1.6024209.html?_r=0
"They ordered the men around - there are many stories of bossy women and subordinate men," she said. "We know this from the literature of the 16th century, and it hasn't changed."
Modern Dutch men are expected to share the chores at home, "without being told, or when told," de Bruin said. The Dutch woman "wants the man to do housework to help her feel equal, but he has to do it her way."
Which perhaps raises the question, do Dutch men get depressed?
Not much, according to de Bruin, who says that the behavior of the sexes evolved simultaneously, that Dutch men like their women bossy while Dutch women are not keen on macho men. Still, she sympathizes with men who have to negotiate a jungle of rules that they never understand and that are always set by women.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/06/arts/06iht-happy.1.6024209.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/06/arts/06iht-happy.1.6024209.html?_r=0
20 December 2015 02:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
why they consider these "man" as real species of man?? Like seriously...
also need to look in to more on that page, as it is a lot they say as well between the lines , that is belived
"Men wore jewelry off and on, and in the mid-16th century, they often wore a single dangling earring along with their wide, padded breeches that resembled puffy skirts. Whatever femininity this might have indicated was counter-balanced with hyper-masculine pointy beards and codpieces (which were not uncommonly erect, in case you had any lingering doubts of a man’s virility). The pointy beard mirrored the triangular waistline, and punctuated by the essential phallic sword accessory, further drawing the eye to the crotch:
"Boy with a Greyhound" by Paolo Veronese, c.1570s
It has been hypothesized that the exaggeratedly stuffed breeches of the 16th century was"
Post 1700, homosexual behavior was increasingly constructed as a depraved activity associated with a minority of effeminate men; by the 1720s extreme bodily gestures, affected mannerisms in speech and contrived magnificence in costume had come to indicate sexual preference (and perversion). Post-1720, the effeminacy of the previously innocuous “fop” was identified with the effeminacy of the sodomite, adding a significantly more judgmental layer to the language of male attire. The bitter irony is that there was still significant gender crossover in dress. Compare the gentleman below to his female partner: the full skirted frock coat resembles her own skirt; the wide cuffs mimic her lace ones; their gracefully pointed toes meet between them; and the long, coiffed hair is covered for modesty by the woman but styled and flaunted by the man.
http://www.wornthrough.com/2010/03/cross-dressing-through-history-men/
also need to look in to more on that page, as it is a lot they say as well between the lines , that is belived
"Men wore jewelry off and on, and in the mid-16th century, they often wore a single dangling earring along with their wide, padded breeches that resembled puffy skirts. Whatever femininity this might have indicated was counter-balanced with hyper-masculine pointy beards and codpieces (which were not uncommonly erect, in case you had any lingering doubts of a man’s virility). The pointy beard mirrored the triangular waistline, and punctuated by the essential phallic sword accessory, further drawing the eye to the crotch:
"Boy with a Greyhound" by Paolo Veronese, c.1570s
It has been hypothesized that the exaggeratedly stuffed breeches of the 16th century was"
Post 1700, homosexual behavior was increasingly constructed as a depraved activity associated with a minority of effeminate men; by the 1720s extreme bodily gestures, affected mannerisms in speech and contrived magnificence in costume had come to indicate sexual preference (and perversion). Post-1720, the effeminacy of the previously innocuous “fop” was identified with the effeminacy of the sodomite, adding a significantly more judgmental layer to the language of male attire. The bitter irony is that there was still significant gender crossover in dress. Compare the gentleman below to his female partner: the full skirted frock coat resembles her own skirt; the wide cuffs mimic her lace ones; their gracefully pointed toes meet between them; and the long, coiffed hair is covered for modesty by the woman but styled and flaunted by the man.
http://www.wornthrough.com/2010/03/cross-dressing-through-history-men/
http://www.wornthrough.com/2010/03/cross-dressing-through-history-men/
20 December 2015 01:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
actually long page, have to make in to many parts
20 December 2015 01:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oh once more that... do they explain what ilness is behind tha.t. no.....
Sociology of Gender
This page is a resource explaining general sociological concepts of sex and gender. The examples I cover are focused on experiences of otherness.
Sociology of Gender
In sociology, we make a distinction between sex and gender. Sex are the biological traits that societies use to assign people into the category of either male or female, whether it be through a focus on chromosomes, genitalia or some other physical ascription. When people talk about the differences between men and women they are often drawing on sex – on rigid ideas of biology – rather than gender, which is an understanding of how society shapes our understanding of those biological categories.
Gender is more fluid – it may or may not depend upon biological traits. More specifically, it is a concept that describes how societies determine and manage sex categories; the cultural meanings attached to men and women’s roles; and how individuals understand
The sociology of gender examines how society influences our understandings and perception of differences between masculinity (what society deems appropriate behaviour for a “man”) and femininity (what society deems appropriate behaviour for a “woman”). We examine how this, in turn, influences identity and social practices. We pay special focus on the power relationships that follow from the established gender order in a given society, as well as how this changes over time.
Sex and gender do not always align. Cis-gender describes people whose biological body they were born into matches their personal gender identity. This experience is distinct from being transgender, which is where one’s biological sex does not align with their gender identity
http://othersociologist.com/sociology-of-gender/
Sociology of Gender
This page is a resource explaining general sociological concepts of sex and gender. The examples I cover are focused on experiences of otherness.
Sociology of Gender
In sociology, we make a distinction between sex and gender. Sex are the biological traits that societies use to assign people into the category of either male or female, whether it be through a focus on chromosomes, genitalia or some other physical ascription. When people talk about the differences between men and women they are often drawing on sex – on rigid ideas of biology – rather than gender, which is an understanding of how society shapes our understanding of those biological categories.
Gender is more fluid – it may or may not depend upon biological traits. More specifically, it is a concept that describes how societies determine and manage sex categories; the cultural meanings attached to men and women’s roles; and how individuals understand
The sociology of gender examines how society influences our understandings and perception of differences between masculinity (what society deems appropriate behaviour for a “man”) and femininity (what society deems appropriate behaviour for a “woman”). We examine how this, in turn, influences identity and social practices. We pay special focus on the power relationships that follow from the established gender order in a given society, as well as how this changes over time.
Sex and gender do not always align. Cis-gender describes people whose biological body they were born into matches their personal gender identity. This experience is distinct from being transgender, which is where one’s biological sex does not align with their gender identity
http://othersociologist.com/sociology-of-gender/
http://othersociologist.com/sociology-of-gender/
20 December 2015 01:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
how these facts prove.. when you know what and why they are ?
20 December 2015 01:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
HoHoHo really"!
Some nice facts anyway, to look in to what they do with humans
Pink used to be a "boy color" and blue a "girl color," and before that every baby just wore white.
Pastels came into style when a 1918 retail trade publication attempted to nail down the rules: pink for boys and blue for girls. "Being a more decided and stronger color, [pink] is more suitable for the boy," the article stated, "while blue, which is more delicate and dainty, is prettier for the girl." Whether or not people listened (and blatantly sexist rationale aside), they at least seemed to accept a much wider variety of color options for their infants until sometime around 1940, University of Maryland historian Jo B. Paoletti notes, when preferences switched to the color divide we're familiar with today.
At one time, secretaries and schoolteachers were all guys.
Lace used to be manly. And womanly. So long as you were upper-class.
Much like the high-heeled shoe, lace was popularized in the European market around the 16th century as a status marker, Steele told HuffPost. The stuff was so intricately crafted that just an inch and a half of Valenciennes lace (one particularly labor-intensive variety) took 14 hours to produce -- and it came with a price to match.
It was acceptable for men to wear lace through the 18th century, Steele explained, but the style died out around the 19th century. "A lot of decoration in clothing was interpreted as meaning 'aristocratic, upper class'" she explained, "and it becomes redefined around 1800 as meaning 'feminine.'" The same goes for the business of shopping for clothing fabric. "Men shopped quite happily for clothing right through the 18th century," she explained.
USED TO?????
Even men used to cry when they wanted to seem sincere.
.... (want to SEEM...)
"Tearlessness," wrote historian Tom Lutz, "has not been the standard of manliness through most of history." Although men may be biologically inclined against crying, the act has been used over centuries by both genders to signify sincerity, pleasure or even heroism. Odysseus cries throughout the Iliad. Jean-Jacque Rousseau, Lutz wrote, considered crying part of our natural state. In the 18th century, crying was so normalized and even expected that "if you didn't cry at the theatre … you were some kind of lower class boor," he told the Orange County Register. Even American hero Abraham Lincoln cried at certain moments during his public speeches.
Cheerleading started out as a boys' club, because it was too "masculine" for girls.
The first cheerleader is said to be University of Minnesota student Johnny Campbell, who convinced the crowd to follow his chanting lead during an 1898 game. His legacy was carried on by Dwight D. Eisenhower, Franklin Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan -- all cheerleaders. It wasn't until the 1920s and 1930s that women were really included (and not until the 1960s that it became female-dominated) since the sport was previously deemed too "masculine" for them, helping develop powerful, unladylike voices. Plus, they'd hear too much cursing hanging around all those manly male cheerleaders.
Respectable dudes used to wear their hair long, too.
Yea, like Jesus.. up to homo romans...
It wasn't just a Beatles shag, either -- the Merovingian kings of the early Middle Ages in Europe rocked long locks, and many others at the time followed suit. Men of the lowest classes, however, wore short hair or were made to shave it completely as a symbol of their low status..
Both men and women can get kind of baby-crazy -- it just happens to men later in life.
Research by two Kansas State University psychologists in 2011 found that the urge to procreate -- often known as "baby fever" -- is strongest in women at younger ages, and decreases as they age. For men, however, likelihood of baby fever increases with age. "It's like men and women are converging over time," one of the researchers told LiveScience. "Gender role norms didn't do much as far as explaining people's desire to have a baby."
Results of a 2013 survey of 81 women and 27 men in Britain suggested that while men were slightly less likely to express desire for children, they were more likely to feel depressed, jealous, or angry if they didn't have any.
The art of brewing beer was pioneered by women.
Yes, the manliest man drink for manly men was primarily brewed, according to ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics, by the ladies. Brewing beer was seen as a domestic chore for much of history, like making bread and other things that came from grain, until the economy shifted into an industrial-based one and commercial breweries (run by men) took off. As a sad side effect, unique regional brews died out as large-scale production limited available varieties of beer.
There's even a word, likely originating during the 12th century, for female brewers: "brewster."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/16/gender-facts-traditional-roles_n_5115265.html
Some nice facts anyway, to look in to what they do with humans
Pink used to be a "boy color" and blue a "girl color," and before that every baby just wore white.
Pastels came into style when a 1918 retail trade publication attempted to nail down the rules: pink for boys and blue for girls. "Being a more decided and stronger color, [pink] is more suitable for the boy," the article stated, "while blue, which is more delicate and dainty, is prettier for the girl." Whether or not people listened (and blatantly sexist rationale aside), they at least seemed to accept a much wider variety of color options for their infants until sometime around 1940, University of Maryland historian Jo B. Paoletti notes, when preferences switched to the color divide we're familiar with today.
At one time, secretaries and schoolteachers were all guys.
Lace used to be manly. And womanly. So long as you were upper-class.
Much like the high-heeled shoe, lace was popularized in the European market around the 16th century as a status marker, Steele told HuffPost. The stuff was so intricately crafted that just an inch and a half of Valenciennes lace (one particularly labor-intensive variety) took 14 hours to produce -- and it came with a price to match.
It was acceptable for men to wear lace through the 18th century, Steele explained, but the style died out around the 19th century. "A lot of decoration in clothing was interpreted as meaning 'aristocratic, upper class'" she explained, "and it becomes redefined around 1800 as meaning 'feminine.'" The same goes for the business of shopping for clothing fabric. "Men shopped quite happily for clothing right through the 18th century," she explained.
USED TO?????
Even men used to cry when they wanted to seem sincere.
.... (want to SEEM...)
"Tearlessness," wrote historian Tom Lutz, "has not been the standard of manliness through most of history." Although men may be biologically inclined against crying, the act has been used over centuries by both genders to signify sincerity, pleasure or even heroism. Odysseus cries throughout the Iliad. Jean-Jacque Rousseau, Lutz wrote, considered crying part of our natural state. In the 18th century, crying was so normalized and even expected that "if you didn't cry at the theatre … you were some kind of lower class boor," he told the Orange County Register. Even American hero Abraham Lincoln cried at certain moments during his public speeches.
Cheerleading started out as a boys' club, because it was too "masculine" for girls.
The first cheerleader is said to be University of Minnesota student Johnny Campbell, who convinced the crowd to follow his chanting lead during an 1898 game. His legacy was carried on by Dwight D. Eisenhower, Franklin Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan -- all cheerleaders. It wasn't until the 1920s and 1930s that women were really included (and not until the 1960s that it became female-dominated) since the sport was previously deemed too "masculine" for them, helping develop powerful, unladylike voices. Plus, they'd hear too much cursing hanging around all those manly male cheerleaders.
Respectable dudes used to wear their hair long, too.
Yea, like Jesus.. up to homo romans...
It wasn't just a Beatles shag, either -- the Merovingian kings of the early Middle Ages in Europe rocked long locks, and many others at the time followed suit. Men of the lowest classes, however, wore short hair or were made to shave it completely as a symbol of their low status..
Both men and women can get kind of baby-crazy -- it just happens to men later in life.
Research by two Kansas State University psychologists in 2011 found that the urge to procreate -- often known as "baby fever" -- is strongest in women at younger ages, and decreases as they age. For men, however, likelihood of baby fever increases with age. "It's like men and women are converging over time," one of the researchers told LiveScience. "Gender role norms didn't do much as far as explaining people's desire to have a baby."
Results of a 2013 survey of 81 women and 27 men in Britain suggested that while men were slightly less likely to express desire for children, they were more likely to feel depressed, jealous, or angry if they didn't have any.
The art of brewing beer was pioneered by women.
Yes, the manliest man drink for manly men was primarily brewed, according to ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics, by the ladies. Brewing beer was seen as a domestic chore for much of history, like making bread and other things that came from grain, until the economy shifted into an industrial-based one and commercial breweries (run by men) took off. As a sad side effect, unique regional brews died out as large-scale production limited available varieties of beer.
There's even a word, likely originating during the 12th century, for female brewers: "brewster."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/16/gender-facts-traditional-roles_n_5115265.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/16/gender-facts-traditional-roles_n_5115265.html
20 December 2015 01:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this is how they do.. they ban things long period of time, perversions they want to integrate in to humans....
"French Revolution of 1789 prohibited the women wear high heels, has lasted 50 years. Then there is the modern woman ballet shoes soft soled shoes prototype, have advocated simplicity in the way of life throughout Europe, doctors, philosophers, intellectuals who are strongly opposed to women, harmful to health bra and tall, narrow high heels, and the victory. The ladies in the streets of Paris, the first short hair, wearing flat shoes. But then the Emperor НаполеонуБонапарту office did not like this situation, under the influence of pop in his step backwards, the ladies in the street and from the beam waist, wearing dresses and high heels. But this time only President to wear a high heels, high heels, men began to lose interest.
Into the 19th Century, high heels, repeated changes in fashion, fashion tip 1800 ~ 1810 1810 ~ 1830 ,1830-1850 pop pop round the narrow square head, 1850 to the lower leg after the resurgence of high-heeled boots, heels more to the higher, more and more emphasis on men’s comfort, gradually completely abandoned high-heeled shoes.
The emergence of Roger Vivier in 1907, completely laid the basis for modern women high heels, high heels, but the entire 20th century fashion also changes several times throughout the 30 to 40 years, open toe is considered indecent, and later as women sexual freedom, this argument quickly untenable. 50’s, nail technology reform of the high heels, designer love and hate the first design on this super-tapered heel lady. Marilyn Monroe for the year to put on the thin metal Salvatore Ferragamo designed with high-heeled shoes made her fame has since branched out. Students, optimistic, and this is the legendary Ferragamo ah, when I shift the pair of Ferragamo spent a week wages, and then later is relegated to Jimmy Choo, then in the BCBG / Nine west … …
The late 20th century, gay culture is accepted by the mainstream, the more blurred the boundaries between men and women clothing, cross dressing more and more popular, modern woman to wear casual clothes for the cool men’s fashion, performance test gradually mainstream designer high heels the trend of social acceptance of male . But designers do not lose money buying and selling, even if the next 50 years, the mainstream does not accept, the designer can also attract the eye, if the mainstream come to accept that a piece of clothing market is a gold mine.
1970, Glam Rock of the originator of the David Bowie set off a neutral thermal: both men and women have foot thick platform shoes or high-heeled Mary Jane, dressed in colorful tights. Fashion do not care about the gender differences have been … …
Some people say that high heels were born a woman of beauty, a man bound a woman to leave the woman only then high heels, a woman to seduce men who wear high heels … … These ideas may at first quite reasonable, in fact, the number of Some of the lack of historical basis. After genuinely handsome old man in the street see no need to fuss about wearing high heels, think of the motherland 30 years ago, the Cultural Revolution, clothing, and then look at now, I know that fashion is always far exceeded the pace of development of the people think . To highlight their use of soft clothing or a masculine handsome charming, today is absolutely nothing wrong thing, but we are talking about history, ah, that year history that the men also wear red high heels or short skirts with black stockings in England it is the masculine handsome, and now these things on the men who should have nothing to cool or sexy all of it.
"French Revolution of 1789 prohibited the women wear high heels, has lasted 50 years. Then there is the modern woman ballet shoes soft soled shoes prototype, have advocated simplicity in the way of life throughout Europe, doctors, philosophers, intellectuals who are strongly opposed to women, harmful to health bra and tall, narrow high heels, and the victory. The ladies in the streets of Paris, the first short hair, wearing flat shoes. But then the Emperor НаполеонуБонапарту office did not like this situation, under the influence of pop in his step backwards, the ladies in the street and from the beam waist, wearing dresses and high heels. But this time only President to wear a high heels, high heels, men began to lose interest.
Into the 19th Century, high heels, repeated changes in fashion, fashion tip 1800 ~ 1810 1810 ~ 1830 ,1830-1850 pop pop round the narrow square head, 1850 to the lower leg after the resurgence of high-heeled boots, heels more to the higher, more and more emphasis on men’s comfort, gradually completely abandoned high-heeled shoes.
The emergence of Roger Vivier in 1907, completely laid the basis for modern women high heels, high heels, but the entire 20th century fashion also changes several times throughout the 30 to 40 years, open toe is considered indecent, and later as women sexual freedom, this argument quickly untenable. 50’s, nail technology reform of the high heels, designer love and hate the first design on this super-tapered heel lady. Marilyn Monroe for the year to put on the thin metal Salvatore Ferragamo designed with high-heeled shoes made her fame has since branched out. Students, optimistic, and this is the legendary Ferragamo ah, when I shift the pair of Ferragamo spent a week wages, and then later is relegated to Jimmy Choo, then in the BCBG / Nine west … …
The late 20th century, gay culture is accepted by the mainstream, the more blurred the boundaries between men and women clothing, cross dressing more and more popular, modern woman to wear casual clothes for the cool men’s fashion, performance test gradually mainstream designer high heels the trend of social acceptance of male . But designers do not lose money buying and selling, even if the next 50 years, the mainstream does not accept, the designer can also attract the eye, if the mainstream come to accept that a piece of clothing market is a gold mine.
1970, Glam Rock of the originator of the David Bowie set off a neutral thermal: both men and women have foot thick platform shoes or high-heeled Mary Jane, dressed in colorful tights. Fashion do not care about the gender differences have been … …
Some people say that high heels were born a woman of beauty, a man bound a woman to leave the woman only then high heels, a woman to seduce men who wear high heels … … These ideas may at first quite reasonable, in fact, the number of Some of the lack of historical basis. After genuinely handsome old man in the street see no need to fuss about wearing high heels, think of the motherland 30 years ago, the Cultural Revolution, clothing, and then look at now, I know that fashion is always far exceeded the pace of development of the people think . To highlight their use of soft clothing or a masculine handsome charming, today is absolutely nothing wrong thing, but we are talking about history, ah, that year history that the men also wear red high heels or short skirts with black stockings in England it is the masculine handsome, and now these things on the men who should have nothing to cool or sexy all of it.
20 December 2015 01:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" High heels until the 16th century, became popular. Louis XIV in order to make himself look taller and big powerful, more self-confidence and authority, so let the shoemaker for his shoes fitted with 4 inch high heels and the heel painted red to show their noble status. King James II at the time and was deeply influenced by ministers, civil and military Manchao wearing red high heels, that fashion.
The late 16th century when it was discovered that high heels can step out riding stirrup tight, so loved by the senior officers who, soon, high heels the entire male nobility and high society fashion stuff. At that time only men the right to wear high heels for women is taboo.
High-heeled shoes began to rage in the 18th century. Women wear high heels, belly contraction, in order to maintain balance, straight waist, and even uplift the pelvis also
1680, nature, beauty, began to try to wrest from men the right to wear high heels, because when there are 3-inch high heels, shoes, very slender body, heels and soles fused the beginning of the waist Ladies can wear it only by a cane to walk, then gradually in the aristocratic party in the popular. After the emperor decreed by people to determine their level of heel height, the natural, so that only the royal family members can wear shoes with the highest and most beautiful shoes, strictly distinguished from other levels of people.
As for why the mid 17th century,cheap nike shox, high heels can become popular European fashion, there’s more funny to say, said to the mid 17th century, more and more dense population, the city’s streets more and more horse manure, so high heels reflects the practical value, so that although the mere feet off the ground a few inches, but also whole body seems to cause much cleaner. And rain is also very convenient and practical. As is not the case, to difficult to trace, and I this is hearsay.
https://cvncfnd.wordpress.com/2011/07/09/high-heeled-shoes-begin-with-a-mans-vanity/
The late 16th century when it was discovered that high heels can step out riding stirrup tight, so loved by the senior officers who, soon, high heels the entire male nobility and high society fashion stuff. At that time only men the right to wear high heels for women is taboo.
High-heeled shoes began to rage in the 18th century. Women wear high heels, belly contraction, in order to maintain balance, straight waist, and even uplift the pelvis also
1680, nature, beauty, began to try to wrest from men the right to wear high heels, because when there are 3-inch high heels, shoes, very slender body, heels and soles fused the beginning of the waist Ladies can wear it only by a cane to walk, then gradually in the aristocratic party in the popular. After the emperor decreed by people to determine their level of heel height, the natural, so that only the royal family members can wear shoes with the highest and most beautiful shoes, strictly distinguished from other levels of people.
As for why the mid 17th century,cheap nike shox, high heels can become popular European fashion, there’s more funny to say, said to the mid 17th century, more and more dense population, the city’s streets more and more horse manure, so high heels reflects the practical value, so that although the mere feet off the ground a few inches, but also whole body seems to cause much cleaner. And rain is also very convenient and practical. As is not the case, to difficult to trace, and I this is hearsay.
https://cvncfnd.wordpress.com/2011/07/09/high-heeled-shoes-begin-with-a-mans-vanity/
https://cvncfnd.wordpress.com/2011/07/09/high-heeled-shoes-begin-with-a-mans-vanity/
20 December 2015 01:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
answer to last question is NO
and that's it.
just look less able.. and that is why.. plus some ..other not so positive reasons
it like the retarded excuse for people smoking is good so it helps them socialize and find excuse for going out and..
selle asemel, et yhiskonnaga normaalseks areneda
and that's it.
just look less able.. and that is why.. plus some ..other not so positive reasons
it like the retarded excuse for people smoking is good so it helps them socialize and find excuse for going out and..
selle asemel, et yhiskonnaga normaalseks areneda
20 December 2015 01:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
reversed fem logic.. does she get point WHAT heels mean????
no
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If you’ve ever gone to my Twitter page, you know my banner is a photo of Beyonce with the word “FEMINIST” behind her. I’m the kind of feminist who believes in choice. If you want to work 100 hours/week, do it. If you want to be a stay-at-home mom, do it. If you want to wear make-up and color your hair, go for it. If you prefer a buzz cut and the natural look, go for it.
I choose make-up, pearl earrings, and heels. The higher the better.
Imagine my shock and pleasure when I recently learned that there’s scientific proof that high heels do have power over men. A few French scientists published a study in the “Archives of Sexual Behaviour,” finding that “if a woman drops a glove on the street while wearing heels, she’s almost 50 percent more likely to have a man fetch it for her than if she’s wearing flats.”
http://bluenationreview.com/high-heels/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXSlUAS2MNw
Women in heels are twice as likely to stop men on the street and persuade them to answer survey questions. And a woman in high heels at a bar waits half the time to get picked up by a man, compared to a woman in flatter shoes.
red high healsOne of the study’s authors offered his own explanation: “Heels simply make women more attractive to men.”
I can’t speak to that. But I do know that as a shorter woman, I feel more powerful in them simply because I’m 3 to 4 inches taller. I’ve also had to use a heel as both a weapon and a tool, so maybe knowing I have more abilities makes me feel more powerful.
There are those men out there who still believe in chivalry. And when those men are present, I do notice I get more attention from them when I’m in heels. But I’ve always thought that was because they were taking pity on me for wearing shoes they can’t imagine walking in.
catcallI am all for science and learning, but in this case, I can’t say I agree with these study results. I’ve yet to exert any power over a man while wearing heels that I haven’t also exerted while wearing sneakers and a smile.
I’ve been wearing heels for more years than I care to admit, but if you’re interested in doing your own field research and you’re not a expert, check out this video first.
no
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If you’ve ever gone to my Twitter page, you know my banner is a photo of Beyonce with the word “FEMINIST” behind her. I’m the kind of feminist who believes in choice. If you want to work 100 hours/week, do it. If you want to be a stay-at-home mom, do it. If you want to wear make-up and color your hair, go for it. If you prefer a buzz cut and the natural look, go for it.
I choose make-up, pearl earrings, and heels. The higher the better.
Imagine my shock and pleasure when I recently learned that there’s scientific proof that high heels do have power over men. A few French scientists published a study in the “Archives of Sexual Behaviour,” finding that “if a woman drops a glove on the street while wearing heels, she’s almost 50 percent more likely to have a man fetch it for her than if she’s wearing flats.”
http://bluenationreview.com/high-heels/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXSlUAS2MNw
Women in heels are twice as likely to stop men on the street and persuade them to answer survey questions. And a woman in high heels at a bar waits half the time to get picked up by a man, compared to a woman in flatter shoes.
red high healsOne of the study’s authors offered his own explanation: “Heels simply make women more attractive to men.”
I can’t speak to that. But I do know that as a shorter woman, I feel more powerful in them simply because I’m 3 to 4 inches taller. I’ve also had to use a heel as both a weapon and a tool, so maybe knowing I have more abilities makes me feel more powerful.
There are those men out there who still believe in chivalry. And when those men are present, I do notice I get more attention from them when I’m in heels. But I’ve always thought that was because they were taking pity on me for wearing shoes they can’t imagine walking in.
catcallI am all for science and learning, but in this case, I can’t say I agree with these study results. I’ve yet to exert any power over a man while wearing heels that I haven’t also exerted while wearing sneakers and a smile.
I’ve been wearing heels for more years than I care to admit, but if you’re interested in doing your own field research and you’re not a expert, check out this video first.
http://bluenationreview.com/high-heels/
20 December 2015 01:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
long reading more from that site, have to copy and seprate it to commenting parts later
Michael Hoffman’s two latest books are “Little Pieces: This Side of Japan”(2010) and “The Naked Ear”(2012).
Michael Hoffman’s two latest books are “Little Pieces: This Side of Japan”(2010) and “The Naked Ear”(2012).
20 December 2015 01:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
In “The Dialectics of Sex” (1970) she wrote, “The end goal of feminist revolution must be … not just the elimination of male privilege but of the sex distinction itself: genital differences between human beings would no longer matter culturally. The reproduction of the species by one sex for the benefit of the other would be replaced by artificial reproduction.”
Male privilege, 43 years later, is alive and well, much more so in Japan than elsewhere, if the World Economic Forum’s oft-cited 2012 “Global Gender Gap Report” is a fair measure. It ranked Japan a wretched 101st out of 135 countries in terms of female professional, economic and political empowerment.
Behind that is a long past which showed scant regard for women. Warriors despised their weakness; Buddhism dismissed them as polluted beings incapable of attaining Enlightenment; Confucianism stressed the obedience a wife owed her husband and a mother her son. The modernizing regime of the Meiji Era (1868-1912) assigned woman her post-Confucian place — no corporate warrior or captain of burgeoning industry, she, but a “good wife and a wise mother” (“ryōsai kenbō“); it was written into the Meiji Civil Code, which remained in effect until 1947.
Postgenderism? Not Japan’s forte, it seems. Even the grand coming-out party that was Tokyo Rainbow Week, much lauded for its celebration, over 10 heady days in April, of LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) life, showed Japan to be rather behind most of the developed world, though slowly catching up.
The gay pride movement in the United States goes back at least to 1968 (kindled, it is true, by a prevalent homophobia more virulent than anything Japanese LGBT people ever faced); Japan’s did not begin until 1994.
All the same, there is a touch, sometimes more than a touch, of “postgenderism” in Japanese culture, going all the way back to Izanami and Izanagi’s confusion over gender roles. Perhaps it’s not quite what Firestone had in mind. Perhaps, though, it hints at a latent capacity, to be realized over time (for better or worse), for what she did have in mind. A whimsical notion, admittedly. Let’s see if it holds.
Manga and anime fans will be familiar with the term futanari, or “new half” — hermaphrodite characters endowed with feminine curves, voluptuous breasts and a virile penis.
Their popularity goes back to the 1990s and endures to this day. Possibly this has something to do with the economic downturn that started around then, eroding the socially sanctioned and officially promoted orthodoxies — sexual and otherwise — that had gone more or less unchallenged during the Meiji and postwar economic surges.
Possibly, too, there’s a futanari element in the psychology of the nation itself.
Male privilege, 43 years later, is alive and well, much more so in Japan than elsewhere, if the World Economic Forum’s oft-cited 2012 “Global Gender Gap Report” is a fair measure. It ranked Japan a wretched 101st out of 135 countries in terms of female professional, economic and political empowerment.
Behind that is a long past which showed scant regard for women. Warriors despised their weakness; Buddhism dismissed them as polluted beings incapable of attaining Enlightenment; Confucianism stressed the obedience a wife owed her husband and a mother her son. The modernizing regime of the Meiji Era (1868-1912) assigned woman her post-Confucian place — no corporate warrior or captain of burgeoning industry, she, but a “good wife and a wise mother” (“ryōsai kenbō“); it was written into the Meiji Civil Code, which remained in effect until 1947.
Postgenderism? Not Japan’s forte, it seems. Even the grand coming-out party that was Tokyo Rainbow Week, much lauded for its celebration, over 10 heady days in April, of LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) life, showed Japan to be rather behind most of the developed world, though slowly catching up.
The gay pride movement in the United States goes back at least to 1968 (kindled, it is true, by a prevalent homophobia more virulent than anything Japanese LGBT people ever faced); Japan’s did not begin until 1994.
All the same, there is a touch, sometimes more than a touch, of “postgenderism” in Japanese culture, going all the way back to Izanami and Izanagi’s confusion over gender roles. Perhaps it’s not quite what Firestone had in mind. Perhaps, though, it hints at a latent capacity, to be realized over time (for better or worse), for what she did have in mind. A whimsical notion, admittedly. Let’s see if it holds.
Manga and anime fans will be familiar with the term futanari, or “new half” — hermaphrodite characters endowed with feminine curves, voluptuous breasts and a virile penis.
Their popularity goes back to the 1990s and endures to this day. Possibly this has something to do with the economic downturn that started around then, eroding the socially sanctioned and officially promoted orthodoxies — sexual and otherwise — that had gone more or less unchallenged during the Meiji and postwar economic surges.
Possibly, too, there’s a futanari element in the psychology of the nation itself.
20 December 2015 01:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nother section to comment on
"The missionaries were banished and Japan went into isolation for 250 years. In the mid-19th century it was “opened.” Powerless to resist American and European bullying, it feverishly set about “modernizing.” Science and technology were not all it felt it had to learn from the West. Though it never turned Christian, it did adopt a quasi-Christian morality, toning down almost to the point of squelching the indigenous sexual playfulness (whose dark side, alas, is exploitation, of women in particular). The result was the buttoned-down Japan of the familiar stereotype — which must be taken, like all stereotypes, with a grain of salt.
‘Have you ever wondered how you look as a female?”
A man not predisposed to answer “yes” probably wouldn’t be visiting a website that presumes to inquire. “Cross-dresser’s paradise” — that’s how the Elizabeth Club bills itself. Located in Tokyo’s Asakusabashi district, it is one of hundreds of similar establishments whose existence on the fringes of conventional society suggests conventional society’s failure to accommodate certain aspects — call them deviant if you like, but fewer and fewer people do — of human nature.
“Don’t you want to become a lady of your dream?,” the website’s enticement continues.
It’s easy enough. “At Elizabeth, we want your feminine experience to be all you hoped for. There is a shop that carries everything you need to become a female: lingerie, stockings, wigs, high-heels, clothing, makeup goods, accessories, breast forms. … After you change into women’s clothes, our makeup artists, all young girls, will transform you to a girl or lady of your dream. … There is no limit except for your imagination.”
Clubs like this, and the widening appeal of cross-dressing and prime-time transgender TV stars such as Matsuko Deluxe, Ai Haruna and Ikko, to name some of the more famous, point to a restlessness within our conventional sexual boxes. Is it fanciful to foresee a time when we’ll burst out of them altogether? If so, there’s a lot of fanciful thinking around. Collectively it’s called “postgenderism.” One of its boldest exponents was feminist thinker Shulamith Firestone (1945-2012)."
"The missionaries were banished and Japan went into isolation for 250 years. In the mid-19th century it was “opened.” Powerless to resist American and European bullying, it feverishly set about “modernizing.” Science and technology were not all it felt it had to learn from the West. Though it never turned Christian, it did adopt a quasi-Christian morality, toning down almost to the point of squelching the indigenous sexual playfulness (whose dark side, alas, is exploitation, of women in particular). The result was the buttoned-down Japan of the familiar stereotype — which must be taken, like all stereotypes, with a grain of salt.
‘Have you ever wondered how you look as a female?”
A man not predisposed to answer “yes” probably wouldn’t be visiting a website that presumes to inquire. “Cross-dresser’s paradise” — that’s how the Elizabeth Club bills itself. Located in Tokyo’s Asakusabashi district, it is one of hundreds of similar establishments whose existence on the fringes of conventional society suggests conventional society’s failure to accommodate certain aspects — call them deviant if you like, but fewer and fewer people do — of human nature.
“Don’t you want to become a lady of your dream?,” the website’s enticement continues.
It’s easy enough. “At Elizabeth, we want your feminine experience to be all you hoped for. There is a shop that carries everything you need to become a female: lingerie, stockings, wigs, high-heels, clothing, makeup goods, accessories, breast forms. … After you change into women’s clothes, our makeup artists, all young girls, will transform you to a girl or lady of your dream. … There is no limit except for your imagination.”
Clubs like this, and the widening appeal of cross-dressing and prime-time transgender TV stars such as Matsuko Deluxe, Ai Haruna and Ikko, to name some of the more famous, point to a restlessness within our conventional sexual boxes. Is it fanciful to foresee a time when we’ll burst out of them altogether? If so, there’s a lot of fanciful thinking around. Collectively it’s called “postgenderism.” One of its boldest exponents was feminist thinker Shulamith Firestone (1945-2012)."
20 December 2015 01:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
they are on the japan case ower history many times.. hard...
but this person is richer in knowing who writes
"Myth takes us back to the formless void, where among the first generations of gods and goddesses are Izanagi (“He who Invites”) and Izanami (“She who Invites”). The biblical God’s creation of the universe is awesome and mysterious. Not so Izanagi and Izanami’s begetting of Japan, recounted in the eighth-century chronicle “Nihon Shoki.”
Imagine sexually awakened gods who, like children, don’t quite know what to do. They look at each other and are enchanted. Izanami speaks first: “What a splendid young man!” To which Izanagi replies, “What a splendid young woman!”
Their first offspring was a “leech child,” born without limbs or bones. What had gone wrong? The older gods explained: Izanami, the female, had spoken first. Initiative was the male’s prerogative. Chastened, they tried again. This time they got it right. Izanami gave birth to the islands of Japan, and to gods and goddesses without number. The poor deformed baby, placed in a boat of reeds, floated away, never to be heard of again.
Japan, begotten child of childlike gods, escaped the stern sexual discipline imposed by an asexual creator god whose grim intolerance of human passions caused him, for example, to destroy a city, Sodom, for a “sin” known ever since as sodomy. Japan acknowledged no sexual sins, least of all that one, as the 16th-century Christian missionaries who saw this “land of the gods” in its pristine state noted with squeamish disgust."
but this person is richer in knowing who writes
"Myth takes us back to the formless void, where among the first generations of gods and goddesses are Izanagi (“He who Invites”) and Izanami (“She who Invites”). The biblical God’s creation of the universe is awesome and mysterious. Not so Izanagi and Izanami’s begetting of Japan, recounted in the eighth-century chronicle “Nihon Shoki.”
Imagine sexually awakened gods who, like children, don’t quite know what to do. They look at each other and are enchanted. Izanami speaks first: “What a splendid young man!” To which Izanagi replies, “What a splendid young woman!”
Their first offspring was a “leech child,” born without limbs or bones. What had gone wrong? The older gods explained: Izanami, the female, had spoken first. Initiative was the male’s prerogative. Chastened, they tried again. This time they got it right. Izanami gave birth to the islands of Japan, and to gods and goddesses without number. The poor deformed baby, placed in a boat of reeds, floated away, never to be heard of again.
Japan, begotten child of childlike gods, escaped the stern sexual discipline imposed by an asexual creator god whose grim intolerance of human passions caused him, for example, to destroy a city, Sodom, for a “sin” known ever since as sodomy. Japan acknowledged no sexual sins, least of all that one, as the 16th-century Christian missionaries who saw this “land of the gods” in its pristine state noted with squeamish disgust."
20 December 2015 01:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
people kind of forget, these alien civilizations are old ones.. and they come as waves.. try to penetrate slaves as what they see humans... from one and another side...
Sandal are the best, really,
magical reasons also
and now some hard core propaganda and brainwashing, from ones in denial
"Do our genitals define us? Increasingly, they do not. Is sexuality more complicated than male/female? Increasingly, it is.
Or maybe not increasingly: Maybe the only thing that’s changed over the ages is how much of our true selves society lets us show.
The Bible, keystone arch of Western civilization, had it all figured out. “Male and female created he them,” says the Book of Genesis; “he” being God, “them” being us.
Turn now to Deuteronomy 22:5: “A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for anyone who does so is an abomination to the Lord your God.”
"http://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2013/07/13/general/gender-bending-in-japan/
"What would the Lord our God have made of the 21st century and its explosion of sexual alternatives? Same-sex marriage, legal (as of now) in 13 countries and 12 U.S. states, is the barest tip of the iceberg. Language strains to keep up with new practices, or old practices no longer cloaked in shame or social disapproval: cross-dressing, transgenderism, androgyny, hermaphroditism and more — much more.
Individuals proudly proclaim themselves genderqueer, bi-gender, agender. Last month an Australian court approved the right to officially label oneself “gender nonspecific.”
Japan, where same-sex marriage is hardly an issue, let alone a right, would offend the biblical God less than other places — which is ironic, because Japan is among the modern world’s least Judeo-Christian countries. Sexually, though, it is — on the surface at least — overwhelmingly male/female."
Sandal are the best, really,
magical reasons also
and now some hard core propaganda and brainwashing, from ones in denial
"Do our genitals define us? Increasingly, they do not. Is sexuality more complicated than male/female? Increasingly, it is.
Or maybe not increasingly: Maybe the only thing that’s changed over the ages is how much of our true selves society lets us show.
The Bible, keystone arch of Western civilization, had it all figured out. “Male and female created he them,” says the Book of Genesis; “he” being God, “them” being us.
Turn now to Deuteronomy 22:5: “A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for anyone who does so is an abomination to the Lord your God.”
"http://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2013/07/13/general/gender-bending-in-japan/
"What would the Lord our God have made of the 21st century and its explosion of sexual alternatives? Same-sex marriage, legal (as of now) in 13 countries and 12 U.S. states, is the barest tip of the iceberg. Language strains to keep up with new practices, or old practices no longer cloaked in shame or social disapproval: cross-dressing, transgenderism, androgyny, hermaphroditism and more — much more.
Individuals proudly proclaim themselves genderqueer, bi-gender, agender. Last month an Australian court approved the right to officially label oneself “gender nonspecific.”
Japan, where same-sex marriage is hardly an issue, let alone a right, would offend the biblical God less than other places — which is ironic, because Japan is among the modern world’s least Judeo-Christian countries. Sexually, though, it is — on the surface at least — overwhelmingly male/female."
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2013/07/13/general/gender-bending-in-japan/
20 December 2015 01:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Shoes with high heels were part of the basic uniform for mounted Persian soldiers – they helped in maintaining balance when the soldiers rose to shoot their arrows. In the 16th century, Shah Abbas, who had the world's largest cavalry, sent his first diplomatic mission to Europe to the courts of Russia, Castilla and Germany, and afterwards, everything 'Oriental' became fashionable, including shoes with high heels, which aristocrats incorporated into their outfits to look taller, stronger and more virile. Women also got in on the fashion, and until the 19th century it was common for both sexes to wear them.
Now, every Thursday the Axel Hotel reminds us that heels are also for men and opens its Pop Bar to anyone wanting to get back to feeling like the first Persian soldiers – or perhaps like a stunning and fashionable diva."
http://www.timeout.com/barcelona/gay-lesbian/boys-in-heels
Not even funny.. but it is .. as they was just fking with european robots knowing monkey see monkey do.. how to make these savages more unpractical.. but if they would only know they will be forcing on it to everyone then..
Now, every Thursday the Axel Hotel reminds us that heels are also for men and opens its Pop Bar to anyone wanting to get back to feeling like the first Persian soldiers – or perhaps like a stunning and fashionable diva."
http://www.timeout.com/barcelona/gay-lesbian/boys-in-heels
Not even funny.. but it is .. as they was just fking with european robots knowing monkey see monkey do.. how to make these savages more unpractical.. but if they would only know they will be forcing on it to everyone then..
http://www.timeout.com/barcelona/gay-lesbian/boys-in-heels
20 December 2015 01:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
last article was not a joke, they working on it
"According to Lucky magazine, guys are starting to wear high heels. For realz.
OK, so they're not talking about your average Joe here. Lucky reports on "the emergence of an elite group of men who take pleasure in wearing exquisite women’s shoes. In public."
And no, these guys aren't strutting around in Payless pumps.
"These guys prefer Fendi over Frederick's any day," the author claims. "They exist in more abundance that you might believe," he adds.
How have we missed them?
Lucky makes a good point: Women's fashions have been allowed to change with the times, but men pretty much still wear the same boring stuff they always hav"
http://www.sodahead.com/living/should-men-wear-high-heels/question-2093163/
"Plus, the author adds, heels are simply more flattering -- especially for short dudes.
"They allow me to pass as 5'10" when I'm only 5'5" on a good day," the author argues.
What do you think? Should more men give high heels a chance?"
"According to Lucky magazine, guys are starting to wear high heels. For realz.
OK, so they're not talking about your average Joe here. Lucky reports on "the emergence of an elite group of men who take pleasure in wearing exquisite women’s shoes. In public."
And no, these guys aren't strutting around in Payless pumps.
"These guys prefer Fendi over Frederick's any day," the author claims. "They exist in more abundance that you might believe," he adds.
How have we missed them?
Lucky makes a good point: Women's fashions have been allowed to change with the times, but men pretty much still wear the same boring stuff they always hav"
http://www.sodahead.com/living/should-men-wear-high-heels/question-2093163/
"Plus, the author adds, heels are simply more flattering -- especially for short dudes.
"They allow me to pass as 5'10" when I'm only 5'5" on a good day," the author argues.
What do you think? Should more men give high heels a chance?"
http://www.sodahead.com/living/should-men-wear-high-heels/question-2093163/
20 December 2015 01:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"we may have to wait for true gender equality first." :D
Seriously..
Seriously..
20 December 2015 01:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Women, in contrast, were seen as emotional, sentimental and uneducatable. Female desirability begins to be constructed in terms of irrational fashion and the high heel - once separated from its original function of horseback riding - becomes a primary example of impractical dress."
High heels were seen as foolish and effeminate. By 1740 men had stopped wearing them altogether.
But it was only 50 years before they disappeared from women's feet too, falling out of favour after the French Revolution.
By the time the heel came back into fashion, in the mid-19th Century, photography was transforming the way that fashions - and the female self-image - were constructed.
Pornographers were amongst the first to embrace the new technology, taking pictures of naked women for dirty postcards, positioning models in poses that resembled classical nudes, but wearing modern-day high heels. "
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and now more.. the ent point of that sickness... this is in black and white.. this is what they dream.. not that we would evolve back to normal, but that we would all together, would be proper retarded and unpractical
not to save women from that mental prison we tricked her to in to.. as she loves us so much she will try to be.. whatever we desire..
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"The 1960s saw a return of low heeled cowboy boots for men and some dandies strutted their stuff in platform shoes in the 1970s.
But the era of men walking around on their toes seems to be behind us. Could we ever return to an era of guys squeezing their big hairy feet into four-inch, shiny, brightly coloured high heels?
"Absolutely," says Semmelhack. There is no reason, she believes, why the high heel cannot continue to be ascribed new meanings - although we may have to wait for true gender equality first.
"If it becomes a signifier of actual power, then men will be as willing to wear it as women.""
High heels were seen as foolish and effeminate. By 1740 men had stopped wearing them altogether.
But it was only 50 years before they disappeared from women's feet too, falling out of favour after the French Revolution.
By the time the heel came back into fashion, in the mid-19th Century, photography was transforming the way that fashions - and the female self-image - were constructed.
Pornographers were amongst the first to embrace the new technology, taking pictures of naked women for dirty postcards, positioning models in poses that resembled classical nudes, but wearing modern-day high heels. "
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and now more.. the ent point of that sickness... this is in black and white.. this is what they dream.. not that we would evolve back to normal, but that we would all together, would be proper retarded and unpractical
not to save women from that mental prison we tricked her to in to.. as she loves us so much she will try to be.. whatever we desire..
-----------
"The 1960s saw a return of low heeled cowboy boots for men and some dandies strutted their stuff in platform shoes in the 1970s.
But the era of men walking around on their toes seems to be behind us. Could we ever return to an era of guys squeezing their big hairy feet into four-inch, shiny, brightly coloured high heels?
"Absolutely," says Semmelhack. There is no reason, she believes, why the high heel cannot continue to be ascribed new meanings - although we may have to wait for true gender equality first.
"If it becomes a signifier of actual power, then men will be as willing to wear it as women.""
20 December 2015 01:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
to the points now..
after we get taste of the power of language and behavior manipulation from psychology to..
more proof that we are trained by alien rulers front of us, who try to trick cheeps in to retarded behavior
"So in 1599, Abbas sent the first Persian diplomatic mission to Europe - it called on the courts of Russia, Germany and Spain.
A wave of interest in all things Persian passed through Western Europe. Persian style shoes were enthusiastically adopted by aristocrats, who sought to give their appearance a virile, masculine edge that, it suddenly seemed, only heeled shoes could supply.
Image caption Louis XIV wearing his trademark heels in a 1701 portrait by Hyacinthe Rigaud
As the wearing of heels filtered into the lower ranks of society, the aristocracy responded by dramatically increasing the height of their shoes - and the high heel was born.
In the muddy, rutted streets of 17th Century Europe, these new shoes had no utility value whatsoever - but that was the point.
"One of the best ways that status can be conveyed is through impracticality," says Semmelhack, adding that the upper classes have always used impractical, uncomfortable and luxurious clothing to announce their privileged status.
"They aren't in the fields working and they don't have to walk far."
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21151350
as the mission was done, initiated:
"Although Europeans were first attracted to heels because the Persian connection gave them a macho air, a craze in women's fashion for adopting elements of men's dress meant their use soon spread to women and children.
"In the 1630s you had women cutting their hair, adding epaulettes to their outfits," says Semmelhack.
"They would smoke pipes, they would wear hats that were very masculine. And this is why women adopted the heel - it was in an effort to masculinise their outfits."
From that time, Europe's upper classes followed a unisex shoe fashion until the end of the 17th Century, when things began to change again.
"You start seeing a change in the heel at this point," says Helen Persson, a curator at the Victoria and Albert Museum in London. "Men started to have a squarer, more robust, lower, stacky heel, while women's heels became more slender, more curvaceous.""
after we get taste of the power of language and behavior manipulation from psychology to..
more proof that we are trained by alien rulers front of us, who try to trick cheeps in to retarded behavior
"So in 1599, Abbas sent the first Persian diplomatic mission to Europe - it called on the courts of Russia, Germany and Spain.
A wave of interest in all things Persian passed through Western Europe. Persian style shoes were enthusiastically adopted by aristocrats, who sought to give their appearance a virile, masculine edge that, it suddenly seemed, only heeled shoes could supply.
Image caption Louis XIV wearing his trademark heels in a 1701 portrait by Hyacinthe Rigaud
As the wearing of heels filtered into the lower ranks of society, the aristocracy responded by dramatically increasing the height of their shoes - and the high heel was born.
In the muddy, rutted streets of 17th Century Europe, these new shoes had no utility value whatsoever - but that was the point.
"One of the best ways that status can be conveyed is through impracticality," says Semmelhack, adding that the upper classes have always used impractical, uncomfortable and luxurious clothing to announce their privileged status.
"They aren't in the fields working and they don't have to walk far."
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21151350
as the mission was done, initiated:
"Although Europeans were first attracted to heels because the Persian connection gave them a macho air, a craze in women's fashion for adopting elements of men's dress meant their use soon spread to women and children.
"In the 1630s you had women cutting their hair, adding epaulettes to their outfits," says Semmelhack.
"They would smoke pipes, they would wear hats that were very masculine. And this is why women adopted the heel - it was in an effort to masculinise their outfits."
From that time, Europe's upper classes followed a unisex shoe fashion until the end of the 17th Century, when things began to change again.
"You start seeing a change in the heel at this point," says Helen Persson, a curator at the Victoria and Albert Museum in London. "Men started to have a squarer, more robust, lower, stacky heel, while women's heels became more slender, more curvaceous.""
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21151350
20 December 2015 01:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
crap i just noticed, i cant make my future comments on these pages, as "reply" as the comment does not go more deep level, screw that. .wil spend on that time later, will copy rest of it there,
PS: all these in most part are strongly pro propaganda pages, so u know what u read and why
PS: all these in most part are strongly pro propaganda pages, so u know what u read and why
20 December 2015 01:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
they even mention Estonia:
"Among western, industrialized nations, only Russia and Estonia (both of which are suffering badly from the social turmoil resulting from the breakdown of the Soviet Union) have more teenage pregnancies and more teenage abortions than the United States. About one million teenagers -- 10% of girls between 15 and 19 -- become pregnant every year in the US! If you take out the girls who are virgins, 19% of all girls who have had intercourse get pregnant. (Teenage pregnancy: overall trends and state-by-state information. 1999. Alan Guttmacher Institute. New York: AGI.) "
But do they mention how it was and should be really
and some more illnesses
" The most dangerous form of sado-masochism is something called hypoxyphilia. Usually, one person cuts off another's breathing with their hands, rope, or article of clothing during sex, in an effort to cause asphyxiation at the moment of orgasm. Presumably, this intensifies the orgasm considerably. This is also sometime done by the person him- or herself during sex or masturbation. Needless to say, occasionally people die.
Bestiality is having sexual relations with animals. It isn't quite as rare as one might think: Kinsey found that 17% of farm boys admitted to sex with animals. More recent research suggests that it is found primarily in young boys who are mentally deficient. However, interest in bestiality is making a comeback in the form of porn websites devoted to the practice.
The most hated sexual disorder is pedophilia or sexual activity with children. This is primarily an activity engaged in by men (although there are some women as well), and most of these people seem to lack adult sexual experience and to have strong feelings of inferiority and inadequacy. Preying on children apparently makes them feel powerful. Contrary to popular imagination, pedophilia is found more often among heterosexuals than homosexuals.
I don't really want to come across as making excuses for this behavior, but... there is a degree to which cultural variation has to be taken into account. There have been some cultures in the past (and a few in the present) where sexuality with adolescent and late prepubescent boys and girls was considered quite acceptable. There are also a number of cultures where stroking a young child's genitals is a way of calming the child! Where the culture supports it, there isn't the kind of psychological damage we usually associate with childhood sex.
Quite rightly, I believe, modern cultures see sex with preadolescent children as wrong, and even sex between teenagers and adults as a dangerous misuse of experience and power. The law may sometimes appear arbitrary in making judgments as to who is and who isn't a consenting adult, but that is unavoidable
"Among western, industrialized nations, only Russia and Estonia (both of which are suffering badly from the social turmoil resulting from the breakdown of the Soviet Union) have more teenage pregnancies and more teenage abortions than the United States. About one million teenagers -- 10% of girls between 15 and 19 -- become pregnant every year in the US! If you take out the girls who are virgins, 19% of all girls who have had intercourse get pregnant. (Teenage pregnancy: overall trends and state-by-state information. 1999. Alan Guttmacher Institute. New York: AGI.) "
But do they mention how it was and should be really
and some more illnesses
" The most dangerous form of sado-masochism is something called hypoxyphilia. Usually, one person cuts off another's breathing with their hands, rope, or article of clothing during sex, in an effort to cause asphyxiation at the moment of orgasm. Presumably, this intensifies the orgasm considerably. This is also sometime done by the person him- or herself during sex or masturbation. Needless to say, occasionally people die.
Bestiality is having sexual relations with animals. It isn't quite as rare as one might think: Kinsey found that 17% of farm boys admitted to sex with animals. More recent research suggests that it is found primarily in young boys who are mentally deficient. However, interest in bestiality is making a comeback in the form of porn websites devoted to the practice.
The most hated sexual disorder is pedophilia or sexual activity with children. This is primarily an activity engaged in by men (although there are some women as well), and most of these people seem to lack adult sexual experience and to have strong feelings of inferiority and inadequacy. Preying on children apparently makes them feel powerful. Contrary to popular imagination, pedophilia is found more often among heterosexuals than homosexuals.
I don't really want to come across as making excuses for this behavior, but... there is a degree to which cultural variation has to be taken into account. There have been some cultures in the past (and a few in the present) where sexuality with adolescent and late prepubescent boys and girls was considered quite acceptable. There are also a number of cultures where stroking a young child's genitals is a way of calming the child! Where the culture supports it, there isn't the kind of psychological damage we usually associate with childhood sex.
Quite rightly, I believe, modern cultures see sex with preadolescent children as wrong, and even sex between teenagers and adults as a dangerous misuse of experience and power. The law may sometimes appear arbitrary in making judgments as to who is and who isn't a consenting adult, but that is unavoidable
20 December 2015 01:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I had loads of them send open here related to research, but soon getting to the point who knows religious back story or mystical one
Take look at that propaganda, even if that epidemic is so large in some homo invaded arias (as it is a virus, alien one) .. then this is something to worry about not to praise about, but here is the numbers:
"His statistics on homosexuality were even more shocking: He found that 37% of men had had at least one homosexual interaction resulting in orgasm, that 10% of men had been exclusively homosexual for the last three years, and that 4% of men had been exclusively homosexual their entire lives. The general direction of these statistics has been supported again and again since then. "
"Many psychologists of the late 1800's and early 1900's believed that masturbation resulted in all sorts of physical and mental ills and should be stopped at any cost. Today the consensus is clear: Masturbation has no ill effects of any sort for men or women, girls or boys. What used to be referred to as "self-abuse" now goes by the delightful phrase "pleasuring oneself"! Only if it becomes compulsive does it become an issue of concern.
"""" OFCOURSE :D """""
Of course, masturbation isn't really a deviation at all: Roughly 60% of men and 40% of women report having masturbated in the past year. Of men from 18 to 39, 28% do so more than once a week, 37% less than once a week, and 35% not at all. It seems that 5% of men and 11% of women report never having masturbated. On the other hand, 53% of men and 25% of women began masturbating by the time they were between 11 and 13 years old. Clearly, there is nothing wrong with not masturbating, either. (Janus, S., and Janus, C. The Janus Report on Sexual Behavior. 1993. New York: John Wiley & Sons. Laumann, E., Gagnon, J.H., Michael, R.T., and Michaels, S. The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States. 1994. Chicago: University of Chicago Press.)
Oral sex is also considered a normal and healthy sexual practice. Oral sex performed on a man is called fellatio; performed on a woman, it's called cunnilingus. 3/4 of men and 2/3 of women acknowledge that they rather enjoy oral sex. 10% of men and 18% of women even report preferring oral sex to achieve orgasm over intercourse (Janus & Janus, 1993). On the other hand, not liking oral sex is perfectly normal and healthy as well.
Anal sex is far less accepted, and for good reasons: It is painful for many women, and tends to be associated with a desire on the part of some heterosexual men to dominate women. 10% of men and 9% of women say they have had anal sex in the past year (Laumann, Gagnon, Michael, Michaels, 1994). On the other hand, it is estimated that 50% of male homosexuals engage in anal sex as an approximation to vaginal sex."
"http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/genpsysexuality.html
http://www.ship.edu/%7Ecgboeree/sexualorientation.html
Good to know propaganda basics
Take look at that propaganda, even if that epidemic is so large in some homo invaded arias (as it is a virus, alien one) .. then this is something to worry about not to praise about, but here is the numbers:
"His statistics on homosexuality were even more shocking: He found that 37% of men had had at least one homosexual interaction resulting in orgasm, that 10% of men had been exclusively homosexual for the last three years, and that 4% of men had been exclusively homosexual their entire lives. The general direction of these statistics has been supported again and again since then. "
"Many psychologists of the late 1800's and early 1900's believed that masturbation resulted in all sorts of physical and mental ills and should be stopped at any cost. Today the consensus is clear: Masturbation has no ill effects of any sort for men or women, girls or boys. What used to be referred to as "self-abuse" now goes by the delightful phrase "pleasuring oneself"! Only if it becomes compulsive does it become an issue of concern.
"""" OFCOURSE :D """""
Of course, masturbation isn't really a deviation at all: Roughly 60% of men and 40% of women report having masturbated in the past year. Of men from 18 to 39, 28% do so more than once a week, 37% less than once a week, and 35% not at all. It seems that 5% of men and 11% of women report never having masturbated. On the other hand, 53% of men and 25% of women began masturbating by the time they were between 11 and 13 years old. Clearly, there is nothing wrong with not masturbating, either. (Janus, S., and Janus, C. The Janus Report on Sexual Behavior. 1993. New York: John Wiley & Sons. Laumann, E., Gagnon, J.H., Michael, R.T., and Michaels, S. The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States. 1994. Chicago: University of Chicago Press.)
Oral sex is also considered a normal and healthy sexual practice. Oral sex performed on a man is called fellatio; performed on a woman, it's called cunnilingus. 3/4 of men and 2/3 of women acknowledge that they rather enjoy oral sex. 10% of men and 18% of women even report preferring oral sex to achieve orgasm over intercourse (Janus & Janus, 1993). On the other hand, not liking oral sex is perfectly normal and healthy as well.
Anal sex is far less accepted, and for good reasons: It is painful for many women, and tends to be associated with a desire on the part of some heterosexual men to dominate women. 10% of men and 9% of women say they have had anal sex in the past year (Laumann, Gagnon, Michael, Michaels, 1994). On the other hand, it is estimated that 50% of male homosexuals engage in anal sex as an approximation to vaginal sex."
"http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/genpsysexuality.html
http://www.ship.edu/%7Ecgboeree/sexualorientation.html
Good to know propaganda basics
http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/genpsysexuality.html
20 December 2015 01:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
how sick is that
"The Portuguese were among the first Europeans to explore the continent. They noted the range of gender relations in African societies and referred to the "unnatural damnation" of male-to-male sex in Congo. Andrew Battell, an English traveller in the 1590s, wrote this of the Imbangala of Angola: "They are beastly in their living, for they have men in women's apparel, whom they keep among their wives."
Transvestism occurred in many different places, including Madagascar and Ethiopia. Among the Pangwe people of present-day Cameroon and Gabon, homosexual intercourse was practised between males of all ages. It was believed to be a way to transmit wealth. The Nzima of Ghana had a tradition of adult men marrying each other, usually with an age difference of about 10 years. Similar to the pederasty of ancient Greece, Sudan's Zande tribe had a tradition of warriors marrying boys and paying a bride price, as they would for girl brides, to their parents. When the boy grew up, he too became a warrior and took a boy-wife."
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/08/african-homosexuality-colonial-import-myth
So you see painting.. and did u consider..that it was shown as BAD act, to be warned about in the painting??
"How far back can homosexuality be traced in Africa? You cannot argue with rock paintings. Thousands of years ago, the San people of Zimbabwe depicted anal sex between men. The truth is that, like everywhere else, African people have expressed a wide range of sexualities. Far from bringing homosexuality with them, Christian and Islamic forces fought to eradicate it. By challenging the continent's indigenous social and religious systems, they helped demonise and persecute homosexuality in Africa, paving the way for the taboos that prevail today."
"The Portuguese were among the first Europeans to explore the continent. They noted the range of gender relations in African societies and referred to the "unnatural damnation" of male-to-male sex in Congo. Andrew Battell, an English traveller in the 1590s, wrote this of the Imbangala of Angola: "They are beastly in their living, for they have men in women's apparel, whom they keep among their wives."
Transvestism occurred in many different places, including Madagascar and Ethiopia. Among the Pangwe people of present-day Cameroon and Gabon, homosexual intercourse was practised between males of all ages. It was believed to be a way to transmit wealth. The Nzima of Ghana had a tradition of adult men marrying each other, usually with an age difference of about 10 years. Similar to the pederasty of ancient Greece, Sudan's Zande tribe had a tradition of warriors marrying boys and paying a bride price, as they would for girl brides, to their parents. When the boy grew up, he too became a warrior and took a boy-wife."
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/08/african-homosexuality-colonial-import-myth
So you see painting.. and did u consider..that it was shown as BAD act, to be warned about in the painting??
"How far back can homosexuality be traced in Africa? You cannot argue with rock paintings. Thousands of years ago, the San people of Zimbabwe depicted anal sex between men. The truth is that, like everywhere else, African people have expressed a wide range of sexualities. Far from bringing homosexuality with them, Christian and Islamic forces fought to eradicate it. By challenging the continent's indigenous social and religious systems, they helped demonise and persecute homosexuality in Africa, paving the way for the taboos that prevail today."
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/08/african-homosexuality-colonial-import-myth
20 December 2015 00:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
"Fast-forward to the 19th century and the word gay referred to a woman who was a prostitute and a gay man was someone who slept with a lot of women (ironically enough), often prostitutes. Also at this time, the phrase “gay it” meant to have sex."
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/02/how-gay-came-to-mean-homosexual/
So they say.. power of fucking with language
"Around the 1920s and 1930s, however, the word started to have a new meaning. In terms of the sexual meaning of the word, a “gay man” no longer just meant a man who had sex with a lot of women, but now started to refer to men who had sex with other men. There was also another word “gey cat” at this time which meant a homosexual boy.
By 1955, the word gay now officially acquired the new added definition of meaning homosexual males. Gay men themselves seem to have been behind the driving thrust for this new definition as they felt (and many still do), that “homosexual” is much too clinical, sounding like a disorder. As such, it was common amongst the gay community to refer to one another as “gay” decades before this was a commonly known definition (reportedly homosexual men were calling one another gay as early as the 1920s). At this time, homosexual women were referred to as lesbians, not gay. Although women could still be called gay if they were prostitutes as that meaning had not yet 100% disappeared.
Since then, gay, meaning homosexual male, has steadily driven out all the other definitions that have floated about through time and of course also has gradually begun supplementing the word ‘lesbian’ as referring to women who are homosexual"
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/02/how-gay-came-to-mean-homosexual/
So they say.. power of fucking with language
"Around the 1920s and 1930s, however, the word started to have a new meaning. In terms of the sexual meaning of the word, a “gay man” no longer just meant a man who had sex with a lot of women, but now started to refer to men who had sex with other men. There was also another word “gey cat” at this time which meant a homosexual boy.
By 1955, the word gay now officially acquired the new added definition of meaning homosexual males. Gay men themselves seem to have been behind the driving thrust for this new definition as they felt (and many still do), that “homosexual” is much too clinical, sounding like a disorder. As such, it was common amongst the gay community to refer to one another as “gay” decades before this was a commonly known definition (reportedly homosexual men were calling one another gay as early as the 1920s). At this time, homosexual women were referred to as lesbians, not gay. Although women could still be called gay if they were prostitutes as that meaning had not yet 100% disappeared.
Since then, gay, meaning homosexual male, has steadily driven out all the other definitions that have floated about through time and of course also has gradually begun supplementing the word ‘lesbian’ as referring to women who are homosexual"
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/02/how-gay-came-to-mean-homosexual/
20 December 2015 00:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kontsadega seotud teemadega lingid, kommin hiljem
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-consumericus/200902/why-are-high-heels-so-enticing
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-consumericus/200902/why-are-high-heels-so-enticing
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-consumericus/200902/why-are-high-heels-so-enticing
20 December 2015 00:47
Margus Meigo commented on Merje Kass's photo.
Nii hea : )
20 December 2015 00:04
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
nice one
19 December 2015 17:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mis kontsakingadesse puutub siis muidugi peale seda kui ma selles osas kaagutama hakkasin on pool netti tyhi ja neid nimesigi enam ei leia, nood homod kes eriti edukalt 16 sajandil "eliidi" ja muud mehed kontsade peale panid ja siis hiljem teiste inimvastaste teadlastega naised neid asju manipuleerisid kasutama nagu sutsuga, mis implateeriti ajusse 19 sajandi lopu projetina kui "iseseisev, oma riist, mida ise tean ja valin kuidas teen" naistele
miks arvate, miks suitse "fags"(peded) kutsuti?
miks arvate, miks suitse "fags"(peded) kutsuti?
19 December 2015 17:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja mis värk sellega on, kas dB Terviseamet ei käi kontrollimas v?
Vanasti isegi kirikutes kitarrimängu nõukogu muusika board käis kontrollimas, et ebasobilik poleks vaimse asutuse jaoks ja nüüd iga nurgapeal võib ilma igasuguse tervise ja muusikast arusaamis tõendita kes iganes kui iganes suvaliselt kõllid keerata kuidas soovib ?
Teades väga hästi ,et suur osa ühiskonnast on meeldivalt siirad ja allaheitlikud, allaneelavad, pea mida iganes neile suhu topitakse (v.a. juhul kui psühedeelikumid, siis mõeldakse et ehk ikka selle tervise huvides jätaks vahele... minetea, vb hakkad kogemusekäigus veel tervisele mõtlema..)
Vanasti isegi kirikutes kitarrimängu nõukogu muusika board käis kontrollimas, et ebasobilik poleks vaimse asutuse jaoks ja nüüd iga nurgapeal võib ilma igasuguse tervise ja muusikast arusaamis tõendita kes iganes kui iganes suvaliselt kõllid keerata kuidas soovib ?
Teades väga hästi ,et suur osa ühiskonnast on meeldivalt siirad ja allaheitlikud, allaneelavad, pea mida iganes neile suhu topitakse (v.a. juhul kui psühedeelikumid, siis mõeldakse et ehk ikka selle tervise huvides jätaks vahele... minetea, vb hakkad kogemusekäigus veel tervisele mõtlema..)
19 December 2015 16:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui raske on klubidel normaalseid tantsususse pooltasuta neidudele rentida, kes tervena mööda munakiviteed suutnud klubini ennast välja vedada?
Nagu hoolivusemõtet pole üldse siis nõutud, kui avaliku tantsu ja meeleolu ravimis asutuse avad v?
Nagu hoolivusemõtet pole üldse siis nõutud, kui avaliku tantsu ja meeleolu ravimis asutuse avad v?
19 December 2015 16:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mitte, et see mingi reaalne näide parimast muusikast oleks, kuid lihtsalt nagu.. ma ei oska neid näiteid isegi tuua,sest ajueisuutnud selliseid üleminekuid seostavalt registreerida mida eile DJde poolt tunnistama pidin,
Ime pole siis, et naised joovad. Lisaks sellele, et selliseid mehi ja valutavaid kontsakingi välja kannatada mida neid ühiskonna olematusurve poolt rooma homo propakanda läbi kandma on manipuleeritud, et tunnustust endas ja teistes leida
Ime pole siis, et naised joovad. Lisaks sellele, et selliseid mehi ja valutavaid kontsakingi välja kannatada mida neid ühiskonna olematusurve poolt rooma homo propakanda läbi kandma on manipuleeritud, et tunnustust endas ja teistes leida
19 December 2015 16:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
19 December 2015 16:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
19 December 2015 16:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sobraga mõtlesime, et ilma mureta saaks olla parem DJ, ja tõepoolest, panin oma iganenud kogusse otsingusse "club", mis kogunenud, olles mitte klubikas, pigem metallikas või hardcoreone.. tol ajal.. ja ilma mureta, tuli pea suvalises järjekorras sobilikum klubikas peale (mida omakorda winamp tava winniga ka tasuta asjalikumalt kokku miksib, with all the respects to real DJs including my list like DJ Kolibriscope who should not feel touced and the ones yesterday .. just faderly reccomendations.. )
19 December 2015 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
we should really not put that crap around children,
but strawberries, carrots perhaps and apples
Seriously Mark.
but strawberries, carrots perhaps and apples
Seriously Mark.
19 December 2015 13:55
Margus Meigo replied to Leydi Fekete's comment.
they always have one of the jobs or two, to be "against war" as this is what the job requirement says
as if they would not keep one on payroll for that,then someone might come with true views against war and say something really inappropriate...
as if they would not keep one on payroll for that,then someone might come with true views against war and say something really inappropriate...
17 December 2015 16:02
Margus Meigo commented on Fusion's video.
Hey, did anyone happen to hear if they also talk about issues about Islamic terrorism or ISIS?
I think they should have talk about these topics as well,
or about having sex on psychedelics and realizing of Matriarchy supremacy compared to current Greek-RoMan homominded anti-nature communist society
anyway, let me know please if they touch of any of these topics, will try to stream that then, am from EstonedJa... u know, we to stoned here, skipping a bits of time at times..
I think they should have talk about these topics as well,
or about having sex on psychedelics and realizing of Matriarchy supremacy compared to current Greek-RoMan homominded anti-nature communist society
anyway, let me know please if they touch of any of these topics, will try to stream that then, am from EstonedJa... u know, we to stoned here, skipping a bits of time at times..
17 December 2015 15:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Karl Ristikivi was one of the first Estonian writers to create a comprehensive panorama of his country's urbanization. Once in Swedish exile, he also wrote the first Estonian surrealist novel, a work that is strongly influenced by existentialist philosophy. He orchestrated an impressive cycle of seventeen novels plus other books into a polyphonic unity with a time scale that embraces European history over two millennia. His invention and use of a complicated system of myths and symbols could be compared to the approach of the school of semiotic writers. Humanism, Christian religion, and traditional ethics are, however, the chief legacy of his works.
Ristikivi was born on 16 October 1912 in Varbla in western Estonia to an unmarried maidservant, Liisu Ristikivi, and was baptized Karp Ristikivi[1] in the Russian Orthodox congregation to which his mother belonged. He spent his childhood on various farms where his mother found employment. In 1920 he entered a village school and suffered humiliation because of his illegitimacy and his frail physique.
He obtained some knowledge of literature and history by reading old German books that he found in the attic of a local manor house; although he did not know the language at first, he enjoyed looking at the pictures and asked grown-ups about the meaning of the texts. In the process he shaped his own imaginary world of medieval knights and Christian ideals.
His interest in history and talent for learning languages made Ristikivi an academic success at the village school. In 1927 a rich relative offered him an opportunity to continue his studies, and Ristikivi attended the Tallinn Commercial School and the Tallinn College; he graduated from the latter institution in 1932. The reminiscences of older residents of the city sparked Ristikivi's interest in the first period of urbanization in Estonia at the end of the nineteenth century.
Ristikivi began his literary career writing stories for family magazines, and in the 1930s he published a series of children's books with animal characters: The Flying World ("Lendav maailm", 1935), The Blue Butterfly ("Sinine liblikas", 1936), Pals ("Semud", 1936), and Chums ("Sellid", 1938). The money he received for these works enabled him to enroll in the department of geography in the faculty of mathematics and natural sciences of the University of Tartu in 1936, where he chose sociology as his main subject.
While at the university he was active in the left-wing Estonian Students' Society Veljesto. Ristikivi graduated Tartu University cum laude in 1941.
Later Life in Swedish Exile
The Nazi-German occupation of Estonia in 1941 formed a watershed in Karl Ristikivi's life. Ristikivi was mobilised into the German army. As the German occupation weakened, Estonians began to worry what would happen if the Russians returned. For instance, those who had been in the German army - would they get sent to Siberia? Or worse? Ristikivi ended up working in the Estonian Bureau in Helsinki, capital of neighbouring Finland. But at some point during 1944, Ristikivi decided to cross over to neutral Sweden, quite legally as he even obtained a visa. But he would never see Estonia again. He would live for the rest of his life, a further 33 years, in the Stockholm area and Uppsala.
Ristikivi began writing articles for the exile Estonian press in Sweden. But in the end, to make ends meet, he started work at a health insurance office. This meant that all his writing from then onwards would have to be done in his spare time. The first two novels he wrote in exile were those of the Unfinished Trilogy. These were still about Estonia, but by the early 1950s, Ristikivi must have undergone some kind of crisis. He did not complete the trilogy but instead started work on what has become his most famous novel The Night of Souls ("Hingede öö"; 1953; synopsis below).
Around the time that Ristikivi was writing his historical novel about Saint Catherine of Siena (The Bridal Veil op. cit.), he was interviewed by Vello Salo for Vatican Radio about
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Ristikivi
So there can be good things coming out from Left side of politics indeed, as long they are religious or nature directed
Ristikivi was born on 16 October 1912 in Varbla in western Estonia to an unmarried maidservant, Liisu Ristikivi, and was baptized Karp Ristikivi[1] in the Russian Orthodox congregation to which his mother belonged. He spent his childhood on various farms where his mother found employment. In 1920 he entered a village school and suffered humiliation because of his illegitimacy and his frail physique.
He obtained some knowledge of literature and history by reading old German books that he found in the attic of a local manor house; although he did not know the language at first, he enjoyed looking at the pictures and asked grown-ups about the meaning of the texts. In the process he shaped his own imaginary world of medieval knights and Christian ideals.
His interest in history and talent for learning languages made Ristikivi an academic success at the village school. In 1927 a rich relative offered him an opportunity to continue his studies, and Ristikivi attended the Tallinn Commercial School and the Tallinn College; he graduated from the latter institution in 1932. The reminiscences of older residents of the city sparked Ristikivi's interest in the first period of urbanization in Estonia at the end of the nineteenth century.
Ristikivi began his literary career writing stories for family magazines, and in the 1930s he published a series of children's books with animal characters: The Flying World ("Lendav maailm", 1935), The Blue Butterfly ("Sinine liblikas", 1936), Pals ("Semud", 1936), and Chums ("Sellid", 1938). The money he received for these works enabled him to enroll in the department of geography in the faculty of mathematics and natural sciences of the University of Tartu in 1936, where he chose sociology as his main subject.
While at the university he was active in the left-wing Estonian Students' Society Veljesto. Ristikivi graduated Tartu University cum laude in 1941.
Later Life in Swedish Exile
The Nazi-German occupation of Estonia in 1941 formed a watershed in Karl Ristikivi's life. Ristikivi was mobilised into the German army. As the German occupation weakened, Estonians began to worry what would happen if the Russians returned. For instance, those who had been in the German army - would they get sent to Siberia? Or worse? Ristikivi ended up working in the Estonian Bureau in Helsinki, capital of neighbouring Finland. But at some point during 1944, Ristikivi decided to cross over to neutral Sweden, quite legally as he even obtained a visa. But he would never see Estonia again. He would live for the rest of his life, a further 33 years, in the Stockholm area and Uppsala.
Ristikivi began writing articles for the exile Estonian press in Sweden. But in the end, to make ends meet, he started work at a health insurance office. This meant that all his writing from then onwards would have to be done in his spare time. The first two novels he wrote in exile were those of the Unfinished Trilogy. These were still about Estonia, but by the early 1950s, Ristikivi must have undergone some kind of crisis. He did not complete the trilogy but instead started work on what has become his most famous novel The Night of Souls ("Hingede öö"; 1953; synopsis below).
Around the time that Ristikivi was writing his historical novel about Saint Catherine of Siena (The Bridal Veil op. cit.), he was interviewed by Vello Salo for Vatican Radio about
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Ristikivi
So there can be good things coming out from Left side of politics indeed, as long they are religious or nature directed
17 December 2015 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ka sisaliku tee kivil jätab jälje,
kuigi me seda ei näe.
Iga mõte, mis tuleb ja läheb,
jääb kuhugi alles.
See, mis sa naeratades kinkisid,
võib kunagi otsa saada,
aga naeratus jääb.
Rõõm, mida sa kinni püüda ei teadnud,
jääb igavesti ootama.
Isegi ütlemata jäänud sõnad
on mõttes öeldud
ja kuhugi tallele pandud.
Kuidas muidu meie lühikeste päevade arv
saab täita aja ääretud salved.
Kuidas muidu üksainus silmapilk
võib kivi paigalt veeretada.
See, kellele on vähe antud,
kannab seda oma südame kohal.
See, kellele on palju antud,
pillab kõik käest maha.
Kõigi teede pikkus ajas on võrdne.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpEQFibN66M
kuigi me seda ei näe.
Iga mõte, mis tuleb ja läheb,
jääb kuhugi alles.
See, mis sa naeratades kinkisid,
võib kunagi otsa saada,
aga naeratus jääb.
Rõõm, mida sa kinni püüda ei teadnud,
jääb igavesti ootama.
Isegi ütlemata jäänud sõnad
on mõttes öeldud
ja kuhugi tallele pandud.
Kuidas muidu meie lühikeste päevade arv
saab täita aja ääretud salved.
Kuidas muidu üksainus silmapilk
võib kivi paigalt veeretada.
See, kellele on vähe antud,
kannab seda oma südame kohal.
See, kellele on palju antud,
pillab kõik käest maha.
Kõigi teede pikkus ajas on võrdne.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpEQFibN66M
17 December 2015 15:29
Margus Meigo commented on Asso Puidet's photo.
Kujuta ette kui rõivas igas riides aint rõvastes oleks või kohver aint kohvriga ringi liiguks, ega amet siis mehe vabadust ja hinge tohi piirata
Enamgiveel, usaldusväärsem kui inimene inimeseks suudab jääda ning ameti taskusse pista, teades mis seal on, mitte ise ametiks muutudes
Kuid samas, kriitiline sõbrakommentaar on alati oodatud, see hoiab kirve terava ja varju piirid selgemana, kui poleks praktilist kriitikat siis poleks liipreid mis meid paigal hoiaks, kes armastab see noomib
Enamgiveel, usaldusväärsem kui inimene inimeseks suudab jääda ning ameti taskusse pista, teades mis seal on, mitte ise ametiks muutudes
Kuid samas, kriitiline sõbrakommentaar on alati oodatud, see hoiab kirve terava ja varju piirid selgemana, kui poleks praktilist kriitikat siis poleks liipreid mis meid paigal hoiaks, kes armastab see noomib
17 December 2015 15:03
Margus Meigo commented on Asso Puidet's photo.
Vabamees, Vabal maal
17 December 2015 14:59
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Saarepera's post.
Hey Gängstar!
17 December 2015 14:51
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek Tarand's comment.
:D (Y)
17 December 2015 14:51
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Saarepera's post.
hahahaha (Y)
17 December 2015 14:50
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's post.
maybe also looking in to the issue, what got it banned
17 December 2015 12:58
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
17 December 2015 07:54
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
Armastusega Eestist!
17 December 2015 07:10
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
Palju Palju õnne ja kallid!
Ennenägematult Onult!
Ennenägematult Onult!
17 December 2015 07:10
Margus Meigo commented on Kezia Noble's post.
Hey how do You think of that guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoRlb6xcymA ? In all levels u can see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoRlb6xcymA
17 December 2015 06:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1. China has the largest number of internet users in the world
China boasts more than 668 million internet users, 594 million of whom go online via their mobile phones, according to the China Internet Network Information Centre.
2. Chinese netizens spend more than two-and-a-half hours each day playing with their phones
Chinese mobile users spent an average of 158 minutes every day using their smartphones for entertainment in 2014, says the centre. It means that if you add up the combined daily total of each mainland person using their phones for entertainment it would equal 178,561 years.
3. China has banned more than 5,000 websites
China has one of the strongest and most sophisticated censorship systems in the world. More than 5,000 websites are blocked on the mainland, non-profit organisation GreatFire.org says. Among the websites that are blocked are popular social media networking platforms such as Twitter, Facebook and Instagram.
4. China’s mobile payments market continues to grow
Mobile payments on the mainland hit US$4.19 trillion during the second quarter, up 445 per cent from the same time last year, according to research firm China Internet Watch. Of the 650 million active users of Tencent’s mobile messaging app WeChat, 60 per cent use the app’s built-in WeChat Wallet service, which runs under Tencent’s Tenpay payment platform. In 2014, Tenpay held 10.6 per cent of the mobile payments market.
5. China will be the world’s largest e-commerce market this year
China’s e-commerce retail sales are forecast to hit US$672 billion this year, according to China Internet Watch. This accounts for more than 40 per cent of estimated global e-commerce sales, as more Chinese users turn to online retail platforms such as Alibaba’s Taobao and Tmall to do their shopping. On this year’s Singles Day shopping extravaganza on November 11, Chinese shoppers spent a record US$14.3 billion online on websites such as Taobao and Tmall.
http://www.scmp.com/tech/article/1891736/top-world-5-facts-about-china-web-and-its-global-leading-668-million-online
China boasts more than 668 million internet users, 594 million of whom go online via their mobile phones, according to the China Internet Network Information Centre.
2. Chinese netizens spend more than two-and-a-half hours each day playing with their phones
Chinese mobile users spent an average of 158 minutes every day using their smartphones for entertainment in 2014, says the centre. It means that if you add up the combined daily total of each mainland person using their phones for entertainment it would equal 178,561 years.
3. China has banned more than 5,000 websites
China has one of the strongest and most sophisticated censorship systems in the world. More than 5,000 websites are blocked on the mainland, non-profit organisation GreatFire.org says. Among the websites that are blocked are popular social media networking platforms such as Twitter, Facebook and Instagram.
4. China’s mobile payments market continues to grow
Mobile payments on the mainland hit US$4.19 trillion during the second quarter, up 445 per cent from the same time last year, according to research firm China Internet Watch. Of the 650 million active users of Tencent’s mobile messaging app WeChat, 60 per cent use the app’s built-in WeChat Wallet service, which runs under Tencent’s Tenpay payment platform. In 2014, Tenpay held 10.6 per cent of the mobile payments market.
5. China will be the world’s largest e-commerce market this year
China’s e-commerce retail sales are forecast to hit US$672 billion this year, according to China Internet Watch. This accounts for more than 40 per cent of estimated global e-commerce sales, as more Chinese users turn to online retail platforms such as Alibaba’s Taobao and Tmall to do their shopping. On this year’s Singles Day shopping extravaganza on November 11, Chinese shoppers spent a record US$14.3 billion online on websites such as Taobao and Tmall.
http://www.scmp.com/tech/article/1891736/top-world-5-facts-about-china-web-and-its-global-leading-668-million-online
http://greatfire.org/
17 December 2015 05:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.scmp.com/tech/innovation/article/1892178/world-internet-conference-2015-top-quotes-opening-day-chinas-annual
http://www.scmp.com/tech/innovation/article/1892178/world-internet-conference-2015-top-quotes-opening-day-chinas-annual
17 December 2015 04:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.scmp.com/tech/article/1891820/world-needs-new-rules-cyberspace-says-chinas-president-xi-jinping
http://www.scmp.com/tech/article/1891820/world-needs-new-rules-cyberspace-says-chinas-president-xi-jinping
17 December 2015 04:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.scmp.com/tech/e-commerce/article/1891829/buoyed-alibabas-success-china-make-50-cent-global-e-commerce-market
http://www.scmp.com/tech/e-commerce/article/1891829/buoyed-alibabas-success-china-make-50-cent-global-e-commerce-market
17 December 2015 04:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.scmp.com/tech/innovation/article/1891842/xi-xiaomi-and-censorship-game-foreign-visitors-world-internet
http://www.scmp.com/tech/innovation/article/1891842/xi-xiaomi-and-censorship-game-foreign-visitors-world-internet
17 December 2015 04:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/1892180/chinas-alibaba-baidu-and-tencent-join-hands-promote
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/1892180/chinas-alibaba-baidu-and-tencent-join-hands-promote
17 December 2015 04:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lot of more interesting reading: http://www.scmp.com/topics/world-internet-conference-2015 of developments to google on..
http://www.scmp.com/topics/world-internet-conference-2015
17 December 2015 04:55
Margus Meigo commented on Peepz Otsmaa's photo.
see on hea usk
17 December 2015 04:50
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
ning siis suurima rahuga "..aga nüüd teeme neist kontidest lastele vurri.."
17 December 2015 04:44
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Ahahaha,
ja sinna kõrvale võiks suitsupääsukese panna, kes Jänesele noogutab ja sõnab "Mis nad tulid siis meie õuele...
ja sinna kõrvale võiks suitsupääsukese panna, kes Jänesele noogutab ja sõnab "Mis nad tulid siis meie õuele...
17 December 2015 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Altau's post.
It gets better
17 December 2015 04:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Well, my self more of a looking it in a way that,, that not nice ones only exist in imagination and in confused minds of all sexes
17 December 2015 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
well, they are a bit ashamed but at least honest
16 December 2015 04:20
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's post.
muidugi odav propacanda leht ka vaadates spammerite ja pettuste punase taustaga reklaami bännereid ja reklaami võrgustikke mda nad oma rahastamiseks kasutavad
15 December 2015 00:09
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's post.
Tõsi ta on, Va muidugi PÄRIS Surm, Neile
kes on leidnud elu läbi Naise armasuse
Nemad elavad muudes aegades ja ruumides ja valitud oludes edasi nii kuidas vaja...
kes on leidnud elu läbi Naise armasuse
Nemad elavad muudes aegades ja ruumides ja valitud oludes edasi nii kuidas vaja...
15 December 2015 00:08
Margus Meigo commented on Peepz Otsmaa's photo.
kuhu ta tagasi peaks astuma kellest ja kes asemele.. lihtsalt sildid nagu sedais.. keda need aitavad
15 December 2015 00:06
Margus Meigo commented on Emil Rutiku's post.
Ainult siis saavad asjad korda kui Shamaani usumaailmad uuesti soovitakse südames "Legaliseerita"
Kuni sinamaani lihtsalt tagajärgede järgi nutmine käib
Kuni sinamaani lihtsalt tagajärgede järgi nutmine käib
12 December 2015 00:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nuti emulaatorid ei soovi mu graafikakaardiga toimida milegi pärast
11 December 2015 09:57
Margus Meigo commented on Ajakiri 30+'s photo.
Pean ikka ka, selle nutitelefoni endale ostma kuskilt
11 December 2015 09:56
Margus Meigo commented on Nyrok City's photo.
kommunistliku vabamyyrluse märk on see, et te muidu teaksite :P
11 December 2015 09:55
Margus Meigo commented on Reno Raama's post.
aga alti lisadaenda arvamus ka juurde, et kas see õige ja misk ja kuidas ja kelle poolel selles videos ise oled.. muidu selline meeltel mänglemine käib.. kus oma arvamust ei jugeta juurde lsiada, kuigi see võimali ktasuta siiamaani veel
11 December 2015 09:38
Margus Meigo commented on Reno Raama's post.
at least these muslims, if they are, are clearly friendly and better in heart... ya should see some angry mobs.. how well they smile and wave to you by not throwing anything at u
11 December 2015 09:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
https://web.facebook.com/Hobbo-Hotel-24224240589240611 December 2015 09:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid film on aint, teadaolevalt windows compadable, eri versiooni osas veel vaatame, kas flash .swf ShockWawe teha..
11 December 2015 08:30
Margus Meigo commented on Zandra Arguelles's post.
women, proverbs 8:24 .. and around it...
11 December 2015 07:00
Margus Meigo commented on Zandra Arguelles's post.
women
11 December 2015 07:00
Margus Meigo commented on Zandra Arguelles's post.
man need that, as man need wisdom, wisdom is femine, female
11 December 2015 07:00
Margus Meigo commented on Zandra Arguelles's post.
A:A:.?
11 December 2015 06:59
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
ma vääriks ka kodu kuid ma motlen, keda ma kallistama peaks.
Ja mida koer tegi valesti, et ta sinna puuri sattus
Ja mida koer tegi valesti, et ta sinna puuri sattus
11 December 2015 05:23
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
kuid inimesed on head, nagu puiesteee voi kes see oli kes laulis
11 December 2015 05:21
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
ahjaa, ulgumine ja nutmine ei aidanud, nad pidid inimese moodi kaituma hakkama, veel topel teatrina ka... et inimesel labi myygityki kasulikuse voi ajutise sydamepehmuse ,siis kaastunne ja kasulikuse kaaluvahel otsustada oskaks (et on molemat, kaastuneele saaks linnukese ja voib kasuli kka olla, kui koer ara paasta)
11 December 2015 05:21
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
kurb, et selline maailm, kus koerad peavad tunde ulguma, enne kui mõni mõistab, et need elusad on
11 December 2015 05:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
postitus inglise omadele,
Ingli s maa, kas kolab ilnglislikult ?
Ingli s maa, kas kolab ilnglislikult ?
11 December 2015 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
seega ei saa veel avalikustada, muidu ei toimi, voi toimib miinust soltumata, kui
//ehk siis, stoimib kuid ilma, et ma seda enda elus kasulikuna näeks või nii, et ise selle kulgu ja sõnumit juhtida, toetada enda tunnetuse kaudu saaks,
kuid kas on vajagigi
//ehk siis, stoimib kuid ilma, et ma seda enda elus kasulikuna näeks või nii, et ise selle kulgu ja sõnumit juhtida, toetada enda tunnetuse kaudu saaks,
kuid kas on vajagigi
11 December 2015 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
etsiis jah, selise filmi tegin, kudi ma sellele veel vsajalikukku matemaatikat pole taha mõelnud
11 December 2015 02:07
Margus Meigo replied to Kristopher Rikken's comment.
thats me, almoust together, ya should see me loose : )
10 December 2015 06:09
Margus Meigo replied to Kätlin Pirk's comment.
Kuid kas soovid, seletan?
Mille kõige osas :) ?
Mille kõige osas :) ?
10 December 2015 06:08
Margus Meigo replied to Kätlin Pirk's comment.
mu igal postitusel viimased mitu aastat, alguse aegadest, on päris mitu suurt pointi, või noh, peaaegu kõigil
10 December 2015 06:08
Margus Meigo commented on Lagle Troncoso Panchana's post.
Group: Aitame TeineTeist Eestimaal!
Meeldiv pilt . )10 December 2015 01:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so we can free women, from the angels.. that man long time ago allowed to kidnap.. when they come to Earth..
with nice dance and tricks.
with nice dance and tricks.
9 December 2015 10:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Proverbs 8:24... and all around it.. You can see, wisdom is feminine..
and Korintians.. explains how humans was made, to rule over Angels..
and Korintians.. explains how humans was made, to rule over Angels..
9 December 2015 10:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
if women and Old Ones loves it deeply, then there is usage for a world, so that is: Smile from a companions of a God
9 December 2015 10:36
Margus Meigo commented on Alberto Ferreira's photo.
We all must find ourselves a Women because, She is only one whose heart can give You and access to proper paradise,
all the women heart opinions will be considered in up there, and specially the ones who love You. And if there is no one... then what use was you for a world? ...if no women liked it deeply, then no world needed it for long time..
Society for Women's Health ResearchA
all the women heart opinions will be considered in up there, and specially the ones who love You. And if there is no one... then what use was you for a world? ...if no women liked it deeply, then no world needed it for long time..
Society for Women's Health ResearchA
9 December 2015 10:35
Margus Meigo commented on Alberto Ferreira's photo.
People sometimes forget, that these spanish and frensh invaders, communists as we can call them now.. as they all under SAME pentagram program.. even the flag of Marocco is now..
They fight against people like Abdelkader... just this fact alone makes them failure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelkader_El_Djezairi
They fight against people like Abdelkader... just this fact alone makes them failure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelkader_El_Djezairi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelkader_El_Djezairi
9 December 2015 10:33
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Koch's post.
Why they look the love as pain and devastation...
this is the way they also.. play down the Love.. and cool it.. as they allow the not good to stay in.. and love it off...
and then the wrong just keeps growing...
in truth, if 2 loves.. then they yes.. have to work with each other and they can not keep smoking cigarettes or drinking for fun or wasting time on TV or in INternet for nothing, ... if we allow these things, then we allow some other beings to be in us that should not stay in.. and that means.. the real love meaning (as Religiously, mystically) will not stay as proper reality ..but it is
this is the way they also.. play down the Love.. and cool it.. as they allow the not good to stay in.. and love it off...
and then the wrong just keeps growing...
in truth, if 2 loves.. then they yes.. have to work with each other and they can not keep smoking cigarettes or drinking for fun or wasting time on TV or in INternet for nothing, ... if we allow these things, then we allow some other beings to be in us that should not stay in.. and that means.. the real love meaning (as Religiously, mystically) will not stay as proper reality ..but it is
9 December 2015 09:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and the last picture as well
9 December 2015 09:21
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Koch's post.
Did not like the Greek looking idol guy at first but the message was so right and good : )
9 December 2015 09:21
Margus Meigo replied to Dom Marcos Barbosa II's comment.
And " The death of the sun and the black hole; The saga of mankind in poems, poems and sonnets; and The Hero "Message to Garcia" might become interesting as well for mainstream.
( A morte do sol e o buraco negro; A saga da humanidade em poemas, poesias e sonetos; e O herói de “mensagem a Garcia”, "
( A morte do sol e o buraco negro; A saga da humanidade em poemas, poesias e sonetos; e O herói de “mensagem a Garcia”, "
9 December 2015 07:07
Margus Meigo commented on Alberto Ferreira's photo.
So as it sayd:
"Dali’s great Battle of Tetuan (1962, David Nahmad Collection, Milan; copyright Fundacio Gala-Salvador Dali, Figueres, Spain), is one of his most ambitious, complex, massive, and in some ways confounding oils. Part of his inspiration came from Mariano Fortuny’s large painting of the same theme, which Dali long admired.
The battle was fought near Tetuan, Morocco, between the Spanish army of Africa and the Moroccan army in 1860.
In Dali’s wildly unconventional depiction of this piece of history, the advancing foreground warriors include a portrait of Gala on horseback as well as the artist’s own self-portrait. And this is a rare painting in that it actually includes two portraits of gala, the other appearing at top center. I’ve actually heard it said that Dali included himself in every painting he did! That, of course, is preposterous. But he did appear in some, even if it might seem a tad odd, and The Battle of Tetuan is one of those occasions. When it came to Gala, however, he frequently included her in his works, as she was his leading model and the most important thing in his life – personally and artistically.
Intermingled with the foreground battlers is a numerical pattern, where numbers 3, 5, 7, 8, etc., can be discerned by a keen eye – probably representing Dali’s numerology interest. He has also shown this part of the painting overlaid with the double-helix molecular model of DNA – a nod to his consuming interest in atomic physics, genetics, and other concerns of modern science.
In the right middle distance, the suggestion of additional warriors was inspired by a phenomenon by which Dali was fascinated at this early 1960s period: the rivers of white (negative space) surrounding the printed text of newspapers. A small newspaper clipping is in fact juxtaposed with The Battle of Tetuan as a detail shown in Robert Descharnes’ book, The World of Salvador Dali. (The Salvador Dali Society, www.dali.com, offers an original drawing by Dali, titled Bust of Socrates, which was created using this negative space in newspaper text technique).
The bizarre flying horse at upper left is perfectly logical in a historical treatment with a surrealistic twist, as is the grossly elongated human leg in front of the full-body portrait of Gala, recalling Dali’s tiny oil, The Ghost of Vermeer of Delft, Which Can be Used as a Table and perhaps The Specter of Sex Appeal, as well.
I saw The Battle of Tetuan briefly in the early 1990s at Christie’s in New York City, where it sold that evening for about $2 million. Its immense size lends an awe-inspiring, powerful and thunderous mood to this remarkable Salvador Dali masterwork. As I looked up at it, it seemed to go on forever – an enormous canvas overflowing with a palpable energy. Such was the power of Dali’s painting. "
So did You notice, to power of the painting over the effort of the local fighter ?
And who is the side in heart, what is shown there from what point of view?
I know, it is important for this age to start to look the reasons behind the Art s!
"Dali’s great Battle of Tetuan (1962, David Nahmad Collection, Milan; copyright Fundacio Gala-Salvador Dali, Figueres, Spain), is one of his most ambitious, complex, massive, and in some ways confounding oils. Part of his inspiration came from Mariano Fortuny’s large painting of the same theme, which Dali long admired.
The battle was fought near Tetuan, Morocco, between the Spanish army of Africa and the Moroccan army in 1860.
In Dali’s wildly unconventional depiction of this piece of history, the advancing foreground warriors include a portrait of Gala on horseback as well as the artist’s own self-portrait. And this is a rare painting in that it actually includes two portraits of gala, the other appearing at top center. I’ve actually heard it said that Dali included himself in every painting he did! That, of course, is preposterous. But he did appear in some, even if it might seem a tad odd, and The Battle of Tetuan is one of those occasions. When it came to Gala, however, he frequently included her in his works, as she was his leading model and the most important thing in his life – personally and artistically.
Intermingled with the foreground battlers is a numerical pattern, where numbers 3, 5, 7, 8, etc., can be discerned by a keen eye – probably representing Dali’s numerology interest. He has also shown this part of the painting overlaid with the double-helix molecular model of DNA – a nod to his consuming interest in atomic physics, genetics, and other concerns of modern science.
In the right middle distance, the suggestion of additional warriors was inspired by a phenomenon by which Dali was fascinated at this early 1960s period: the rivers of white (negative space) surrounding the printed text of newspapers. A small newspaper clipping is in fact juxtaposed with The Battle of Tetuan as a detail shown in Robert Descharnes’ book, The World of Salvador Dali. (The Salvador Dali Society, www.dali.com, offers an original drawing by Dali, titled Bust of Socrates, which was created using this negative space in newspaper text technique).
The bizarre flying horse at upper left is perfectly logical in a historical treatment with a surrealistic twist, as is the grossly elongated human leg in front of the full-body portrait of Gala, recalling Dali’s tiny oil, The Ghost of Vermeer of Delft, Which Can be Used as a Table and perhaps The Specter of Sex Appeal, as well.
I saw The Battle of Tetuan briefly in the early 1990s at Christie’s in New York City, where it sold that evening for about $2 million. Its immense size lends an awe-inspiring, powerful and thunderous mood to this remarkable Salvador Dali masterwork. As I looked up at it, it seemed to go on forever – an enormous canvas overflowing with a palpable energy. Such was the power of Dali’s painting. "
So did You notice, to power of the painting over the effort of the local fighter ?
And who is the side in heart, what is shown there from what point of view?
I know, it is important for this age to start to look the reasons behind the Art s!
http://www.dali.com/
9 December 2015 02:11
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
Do You grow beard now ?
9 December 2015 02:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
eks ta ole ka jah
8 December 2015 06:50
Margus Meigo commented on Asso Puidet's post.
wink
8 December 2015 06:10
Margus Meigo commented on Asso Puidet's post.
et saada neid kes paranoilise don, suurtemate ja tugevamate signaalide alla.
8 December 2015 06:09
Margus Meigo commented on Asso Puidet's post.
MIT teadlased avastasid, et fooliumimüts tõmbab hoopis pigem signaale ligi, seega see võib mingisugune tagurpidi turustamine olla,
8 December 2015 06:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
viisakas
8 December 2015 06:06
Margus Meigo replied to Vahur Armastuse Kahur's comment.
viisakas
8 December 2015 06:01
Margus Meigo replied to Vahur Armastuse Kahur's comment.
mäkivennaks pole mõtet hakata kuna see nii ajutine nähtus, ta turult kaob selle pärast täiesti ära, veel enne uuesti muusika revolutsiooni tehes.. kuid ka sellele mitte otse järgi mõeldes, mis saab siis kui siis saab
8 December 2015 06:00
Margus Meigo replied to Vahur Armastuse Kahur's comment.
true that, oh.. no , ma mõtlesin et selle tüdruku..
8 December 2015 05:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et kui nii ongi, et sellest aru saad Ainiti, kui seda videot vaatama juhtud, sest vahest osadega juhtub nii.. siis rohuks arvesta sellega, et on veel mitmeid reaalsusi ja reaalsuse mille teise ümber trikiks vanglaks paned tehakse ka sulle su enda ravimiseks hoopis suuremas mastaabis ära, ja reaalsused suunatavad muudetavad loogiliselt, nii, et hakkad ise ka uskuma, et oligi nii, et tegelikult ei olnud
8 December 2015 05:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ei päriselt ka, ma siin ei patronaise microuune,
lihtsalt hoiatan, et kui see arusaam reaalseks jõuab ja saab, et Tegelikult Nii ongi, aga hoopis ennast kõrgemaks pidavate poolt ja hoopis muudel eesmärkidel kui teile head soovides
lihtsalt hoiatan, et kui see arusaam reaalseks jõuab ja saab, et Tegelikult Nii ongi, aga hoopis ennast kõrgemaks pidavate poolt ja hoopis muudel eesmärkidel kui teile head soovides
8 December 2015 05:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nu umbes nii
8 December 2015 05:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siis on nagu potensiaal palju suurem, et pere koos midagi selles osas teha saab, kui tehes eraldi, nimetades samu asju eri nimedega ja tehes vihuti erinevaid kategooriaid asjadest mis mitte seotult toimivuse järg, on lihtsalt seotud grupi asjadega mida ma vihuti kohe teistmoodi mõtlen ja ebahuvitavust üles näidates, kui nende osas mingit teadmist teine proovib välja rääkida
8 December 2015 05:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Et kui laps jälle küsib, midagi kergemaks, nagu näiteks "Ema, kuidas porno internetti saab"
Siis täiesti vabalt ja ladusalt peaks vanemad teadma seda ju, ja siis veel natuke ka seda ehk mis selles osas teha ja arvatvasti miks see ja mitmed muud asjad on nii, nagu nad on
Siis täiesti vabalt ja ladusalt peaks vanemad teadma seda ju, ja siis veel natuke ka seda ehk mis selles osas teha ja arvatvasti miks see ja mitmed muud asjad on nii, nagu nad on
8 December 2015 05:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Ema, Ema, Miks kooloniga failinimed Windosis ei toimi?"
"Ära päri igasuguseid asju Juku, mõned asjad lihtsalt on ni"
(kuid, "on nii kuidas on" on juba midagi vastas suunalist selgele, konkreetsele teadmisele, et osad asjad lihtsalt on Nii .... kuid jah, sellegi poolest võiks proovida lapsele selgitada ju seni kuni selgem mõlemal ja ka kuidas ennast selle eest hoida ja lähedasi,
selge siis nii lapsel kui muudel inimestel, )
"Ära päri igasuguseid asju Juku, mõned asjad lihtsalt on ni"
(kuid, "on nii kuidas on" on juba midagi vastas suunalist selgele, konkreetsele teadmisele, et osad asjad lihtsalt on Nii .... kuid jah, sellegi poolest võiks proovida lapsele selgitada ju seni kuni selgem mõlemal ja ka kuidas ennast selle eest hoida ja lähedasi,
selge siis nii lapsel kui muudel inimestel, )
8 December 2015 05:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(ehk siis inimkeeli, mu andestus seisnes selles, et annan Sul vabanduse palumiseks ja koheseks muutmiseks võimaluse (eks nad jäid, järgides lärmakaid...südamehääli peaks,
sh eriti progeja peaks südant kuulama (käskude asemel südant kuulama)
(aga selle võimaluse sees pead ka ennast täiesti muutma ja uueks tegema,ning täiega tõestama ja ära veendma, et Linuks ikka on vajalik jätta, "Kooskõlas Suuurreeglitega, Pea OPsysteemiga ühildumise osas"...sest noh, muidu ei lähe arvesse)
sh eriti progeja peaks südant kuulama (käskude asemel südant kuulama)
(aga selle võimaluse sees pead ka ennast täiesti muutma ja uueks tegema,ning täiega tõestama ja ära veendma, et Linuks ikka on vajalik jätta, "Kooskõlas Suuurreeglitega, Pea OPsysteemiga ühildumise osas"...sest noh, muidu ei lähe arvesse)
8 December 2015 05:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1: andeks andmine tähendas siin kui Paranduse läbinähtavat olekut järgmise või ülejärgmise suurversiooni sees ära tunda loodame,
või muidu oli tõesti ilmaasjata see ootamine, kui teine pool nagu teadlikult, veel arvas, et ta saab alles hoida mingi enda versiooni ilma, et kogu endaasi pea Op systeemi moraali ja tehnika seadustega ühilduda suvatseks,
da oleks veel
või muidu oli tõesti ilmaasjata see ootamine, kui teine pool nagu teadlikult, veel arvas, et ta saab alles hoida mingi enda versiooni ilma, et kogu endaasi pea Op systeemi moraali ja tehnika seadustega ühilduda suvatseks,
da oleks veel
8 December 2015 05:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mul meldib, see värvidega effekt mis siin kolmes sinimustasvärvis
8 December 2015 04:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
8 December 2015 04:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
8 December 2015 04:30
Margus Meigo commented on Fernando Aguayo Hernandez's photo.
Like
8 December 2015 04:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kuid jah, kas siis pornotööstust aidata sobib, kui see endale veel kasulik ka on olukorras kus vaja paremaks muuta mis iganes mitte ülipahal viisil
8 December 2015 04:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kusjuures, need normaalsed mammad, mitte nagu need, umm... need teised naised
(Hmm... mul ei olegi selle Naise pilti, suurelt, kadus kuhugi ära, arvasin, et just salvestasin...)
(Hmm... mul ei olegi selle Naise pilti, suurelt, kadus kuhugi ära, arvasin, et just salvestasin...)
8 December 2015 04:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eesti mäcid poel nii muljet avaldavad, kuid inglismaal ikka endiselt saan tõdeda, et maconals on üks mu lemmik toidukette,
kui nad veel menüü osa ka korda saaks ja veel mõned nipet näpet siis ülejäänu juba loksuks ise paika
nagu töötajate moraal näiteks
kui nad veel menüü osa ka korda saaks ja veel mõned nipet näpet siis ülejäänu juba loksuks ise paika
nagu töötajate moraal näiteks
6 December 2015 21:59
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
oli seal sigasi ka keda oleks mõistlikum olnud varda panna?
(ma ise taimetoitlasest vesiSiga, et kui ma nii küsin siis mõtlen kohe tõsiselt, et kas keegi inimkonna vastane, kes kogematta või meelega valel poolel toimetas, et keegi nüüdseks poldid kaotanud, kui välja vabandada, ka selle ühinemisega endale soojema ellujäämis lootuse tekitada proovis?)
(ma ise taimetoitlasest vesiSiga, et kui ma nii küsin siis mõtlen kohe tõsiselt, et kas keegi inimkonna vastane, kes kogematta või meelega valel poolel toimetas, et keegi nüüdseks poldid kaotanud, kui välja vabandada, ka selle ühinemisega endale soojema ellujäämis lootuse tekitada proovis?)
6 December 2015 21:40
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Ja mis Su enda kommentaar selle kohta on Tarmps?
6 December 2015 21:38
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Era-konnad ühiNevad... tore seegi : )
6 December 2015 21:37
Margus Meigo replied to Marika Palu's comment.
kuid alati klätte saadav, kasvõi teadmistes, kui just suurt väga eriskummalist maal lõplikult ei juhtu, et ei tekigi nagu vimast õiget hipi revulutsdiooni
6 December 2015 20:27
Margus Meigo replied to Marika Palu's comment.
kuid tõe koostamise struktuur, pannakse kokku nii, et see hea, ja meie käest ära
6 December 2015 20:26
Margus Meigo replied to Marika Palu's comment.
et kus saab reguleerida, kuidas õigemini on laulda või sõnuda, ja tõlgendada kes mida miks tegelikult tegi
6 December 2015 20:25
Margus Meigo replied to Marika Palu's comment.
kuna ise ka taolist reguleerimise keskust arendame, siis selles osas asjakohane mõekda ja muretseda
6 December 2015 20:25
Margus Meigo replied to Marika Palu's comment.
lisaks siin veel oli see info,et kui neid kolme pilti keegi see komision neil seal ,vaatab, ning lisab juurde siis kontrolliks need sõnad, siis selline video heatahte komisioni heatahtliku otsusega suunatakse susijate poolt keelatamiseks ikkagi, isegi kui nad aru saavad, et see muud sügavamat, siis üldise heaolu nimel kasvõi .. sest liialt poleemikat tekitav, tõlgendatav... need sõnad just..
6 December 2015 20:24
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's post.
vabsjee
6 December 2015 19:40
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's post.
so be kind, do not scare them to much but stay honest
6 December 2015 19:38
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's post.
probably they are,afraid
6 December 2015 19:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Pesukaru ja nahkhiire vahepealne nagu see haldjaliik
6 December 2015 17:11
Margus Meigo commented on Kaido Üpraus's video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mtu1BHVbtM ma vaablasi ka proovsin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mtu1BHVbtM
6 December 2015 17:10
Margus Meigo commented on Gray Sea's post.
hooly crap
6 December 2015 17:07
Margus Meigo commented on Gray Sea's post.
how not optimistic
6 December 2015 17:05
Margus Meigo commented on Kaido Üpraus's video.
Tal on ikka mingi täitsa huvitava looma nägu
6 December 2015 17:00
Margus Meigo replied to Marika Palu's comment.
Kes Su lemmik reptiil on, peale meie ?
6 December 2015 16:30
Margus Meigo commented on Viktor Turkin's link.
Kas nad teavad kedagi, kes kindlalt ple v`?
Vot tolle olemasolu,. peaks praeguse ühiskonna jaoks Shokk olema...
sest no reptiili aju on meil vist kõigil kes ennast kooli järgi inimeseks peavad... ja instinktid ka vist, räägitakse
Vot tolle olemasolu,. peaks praeguse ühiskonna jaoks Shokk olema...
sest no reptiili aju on meil vist kõigil kes ennast kooli järgi inimeseks peavad... ja instinktid ka vist, räägitakse
6 December 2015 16:29
Margus Meigo replied to Marika Palu's comment.
kuid kas see oluline on, selles pole kindel,
pigem olen kindel, et võib olla oluline, igAks juhuks teha,
sellsite resurrside juures teha sedagi, mida tehasaab
pigem olen kindel, et võib olla oluline, igAks juhuks teha,
sellsite resurrside juures teha sedagi, mida tehasaab
6 December 2015 16:27
Margus Meigo replied to Marika Palu's comment.
Kuid tõsi ta on, plaan see kõik mitmes paraleelis, kuid eelkõige lihtsalt maiselt ka tõlkida, mituaastat takkajärgi.
tähendus miks, mis tähendas siis, mida tundsin vist ja tunnen ning kuhu jõuda soovime, ja miks on ja oli oluline
tähendus miks, mis tähendas siis, mida tundsin vist ja tunnen ning kuhu jõuda soovime, ja miks on ja oli oluline
6 December 2015 16:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
võ noh, pigem on alati tervisega seotust, tervisest juttu, sest nii kudias on parem ,on tervislikum ja aitab jõuda terviseni paremini kiiremini (kiiremini pole alati parem)
6 December 2015 16:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid omavahel öeldes, ega jah, tulebgki otse siin palju vaadata, kuid eelkõige otse ise inimeselt küsida ta maailma kohta, et siis teada kuhu ja mis moodi noid postitusi paigutada,
või soovitada teise maailma selgitus kirjutada, läbi mille vaadata... kuid veelgi parem ,koos teisega seda teha, teise maailmapilti, selgemaks selliselt, et seda näidata osataks,
Mille läbi, mis vaatevinklist, punktidest ja miks, neid postitusi tõlgendada,
(ja suur osa on mul ka endale märkmeteks ja neile kaasa mõtlejatele, kes kunagi kaasata ennast soovivad, seega nad ei pruugi Sulle alati midagi suurt juurde anda, pigem mulle, kuigi teiste jaoks. Vahest on Tervisest ka juttu: )
või soovitada teise maailma selgitus kirjutada, läbi mille vaadata... kuid veelgi parem ,koos teisega seda teha, teise maailmapilti, selgemaks selliselt, et seda näidata osataks,
Mille läbi, mis vaatevinklist, punktidest ja miks, neid postitusi tõlgendada,
(ja suur osa on mul ka endale märkmeteks ja neile kaasa mõtlejatele, kes kunagi kaasata ennast soovivad, seega nad ei pruugi Sulle alati midagi suurt juurde anda, pigem mulle, kuigi teiste jaoks. Vahest on Tervisest ka juttu: )
6 December 2015 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui kunagi need plaanid avalikuks tulevad, mis on plaanitud ja proovitud teha (nende poolt kes arvavad end juhtivat ja kes on juhtivad eri ajas, eri kohas), siis näete ise ka oma tuttavate lastelaste läbi
6 December 2015 16:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see annab näite, milliseid suremaid ja mitmekesisemaid mooduseid eirnevate eraldatud kihtide jaoks saavad nad kasutada, ja välja likvideerida segavad elemendid mis tõeliselt segavad ja kulukad tunduvad. Või muidu vähe olulised, suurele plaanile
6 December 2015 16:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Vaata lisa, Scientoloogia forced connvertid hilisemas faasis kui ümber töötlemise akadeemiad, laagrid on töös nende jaoks kes aru ei saanud uuest korrast
6 December 2015 16:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tõlge: (Aeg2, periood: võimalik fantaseeritud tulevik kommunismiliidu reaalsuskanalis)
Siis selles ajastus, on ühtne arusaam, rahu ja ajude õigesti suunamine aksepteeritud kui õiglane ühiskonna vorm mis hoiab rahu ja õigust õigel teel kõige minimaalsemate suurtemate kahjudena, sest iga üksik indiviid tehakse kahjutult heaks või hea lähedaseks, vahenditega mis on lõplikud
Siis selles ajastus, on ühtne arusaam, rahu ja ajude õigesti suunamine aksepteeritud kui õiglane ühiskonna vorm mis hoiab rahu ja õigust õigel teel kõige minimaalsemate suurtemate kahjudena, sest iga üksik indiviid tehakse kahjutult heaks või hea lähedaseks, vahenditega mis on lõplikud
6 December 2015 16:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid kas selles on luules süüd? (kui on, sis..) Kui kaukas veel?
6 December 2015 16:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mida annab luulekogumik muusikakuulajale kes seda ei ava?
6 December 2015 16:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tõlge: Ime, et keelatud pole (ehk siis ühiskonna pahaksarvamine ja survestatus pole selliste teoste vastu veel avalikult meedias suunatud), Rauaneedmise videost siis käib jutt,
Mis palju suuremas mastaabis, kaugemale ulatuvalt, selgitavamalt ja juhedavamalt räägib sellest kes on alam ja ülem teadmistega,
Mis palju suuremas mastaabis, kaugemale ulatuvalt, selgitavamalt ja juhedavamalt räägib sellest kes on alam ja ülem teadmistega,
6 December 2015 16:01
Margus Meigo replied to Marika Palu's comment.
On ikka ülesanne,
vaat kui ma Eestikeelel annaks ülesande minukeelde hoopis tõlkida
vaat kui ma Eestikeelel annaks ülesande minukeelde hoopis tõlkida
6 December 2015 15:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and the the lyrics continnue:
..pea-ta-ma, "rivist välja lööma, hävitama,
võitlusvõimetuks tegema,
haavama, teadmata kaotama,
tapma,
tapma raua, terase, kroomi, titaani,
uraani, plutooniumi
ja paljude teiste elementidega!
Ohoi sinda, rauda kurja"
Panite suurt rõhku tähele Sõnale "tapma" topelt?
Vot Eesti keel me avastanud ka väga palju liigutab elemente rõhu, suuna, kõla ja olukorra järgi.
seega jah, mõelgem siin
keda need vanad iidsed, metalliks nimetavad?
..pea-ta-ma, "rivist välja lööma, hävitama,
võitlusvõimetuks tegema,
haavama, teadmata kaotama,
tapma,
tapma raua, terase, kroomi, titaani,
uraani, plutooniumi
ja paljude teiste elementidega!
Ohoi sinda, rauda kurja"
Panite suurt rõhku tähele Sõnale "tapma" topelt?
Vot Eesti keel me avastanud ka väga palju liigutab elemente rõhu, suuna, kõla ja olukorra järgi.
seega jah, mõelgem siin
keda need vanad iidsed, metalliks nimetavad?
6 December 2015 15:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Gray Sea hullulthea/
6 December 2015 15:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ainult neid kolme pilti nähes ... otsustades, siis sõnu taustaks juurde vaadata, juurde otsustamiseks, sonad on siin:
"...Liha sööja, luu pureja,
vere süütuma valaja!
Kust said kurja, kangeeksi,
üleliia ülbeeksi? .."
"..Tean ma sündi su sõgeda,
arvan algust su õela! "
Siin laulas on kergelt viha, eksi,me,ve? ee..
sõnad jätkuvad:
"...Ei sa siis veel suuri olnud,
ei veel suuri, ei veel uhke,
kui sind..."
jah ikka päris, personaalne kohe, isiklik kellegi, või kellegide vastu suunatud (komisjon noogutab)
"Nii kõneles suuri surma,
taudi tappaja tähendas:
siin saab surma sepipada!"
Vot siin tõpselt ei tea mis see tähendas ega aru ei saa, aga tundub, nagu surma teemaga oleks seotud, seega tõime siin selle näite välja, sest muu tundus segane ja ilus
NIi, ja siin on nad siis vahepeale lugenud üles nagu me aru saime tapariistasi mida nad vihatu vastu kasutama ässitavad nende kodukeeli, ehk utsitavad või siis
meiemõistes
siin siis räägitud lõik dsendelmunnid
"tapjad, automaatsete sihtimisseadmetega,
tuumalaengut kandvad,
tõrjerelvadele kättesaamatud
raketid.
Noad, odad, kirved, taprid,
saablid,
lingud, tomahawkid, bumerangid,
rangid, ammud nooled, kivid,
kaikad,
küüned, hambad, liiv ja sool,
tuhk ja tõrv, napalm ja süsi..."
".."
Ja nagu teame Eestlased on ühed planeedil enim süsiga seotuid riike, inimese kohta, enamus teavad mis on kivisüsi, üks pikaajalisemalt maailma suurimaid kivisöe kaevandusi maakeral asub selle maa lapipeal, kus mingil põhjusel seda süsteemaatiliselt juba mitmekümned aastad viiakse minema, saadetakse teistele või lihtsalt põletatakse,
heaküll, nad osa soojust juhivad küll enda talvel soendamiseks.. aga nagu lihtsalt põletada sedasi kiiruga sellist ainet ära,
samas olles ise nii tark ja salakaval maa..
MIne tea, vot ei tea mis neil plaanis on, aga ilmselgelt siin laulus, ei keerate me osas armastust üles,
Kõik me möletame veel ju seda Naaritsa lugu,
Kus nad võõrnaaritsa oma maale viisid, et selle läbi pärast enda maal hirmu selgitamis lugu tekitada reaalse näidetena inimeste puhul, et oleks lihtne aru saada ka igal lapsel.
"...Liha sööja, luu pureja,
vere süütuma valaja!
Kust said kurja, kangeeksi,
üleliia ülbeeksi? .."
"..Tean ma sündi su sõgeda,
arvan algust su õela! "
Siin laulas on kergelt viha, eksi,me,ve? ee..
sõnad jätkuvad:
"...Ei sa siis veel suuri olnud,
ei veel suuri, ei veel uhke,
kui sind..."
jah ikka päris, personaalne kohe, isiklik kellegi, või kellegide vastu suunatud (komisjon noogutab)
"Nii kõneles suuri surma,
taudi tappaja tähendas:
siin saab surma sepipada!"
Vot siin tõpselt ei tea mis see tähendas ega aru ei saa, aga tundub, nagu surma teemaga oleks seotud, seega tõime siin selle näite välja, sest muu tundus segane ja ilus
NIi, ja siin on nad siis vahepeale lugenud üles nagu me aru saime tapariistasi mida nad vihatu vastu kasutama ässitavad nende kodukeeli, ehk utsitavad või siis
meiemõistes
siin siis räägitud lõik dsendelmunnid
"tapjad, automaatsete sihtimisseadmetega,
tuumalaengut kandvad,
tõrjerelvadele kättesaamatud
raketid.
Noad, odad, kirved, taprid,
saablid,
lingud, tomahawkid, bumerangid,
rangid, ammud nooled, kivid,
kaikad,
küüned, hambad, liiv ja sool,
tuhk ja tõrv, napalm ja süsi..."
".."
Ja nagu teame Eestlased on ühed planeedil enim süsiga seotuid riike, inimese kohta, enamus teavad mis on kivisüsi, üks pikaajalisemalt maailma suurimaid kivisöe kaevandusi maakeral asub selle maa lapipeal, kus mingil põhjusel seda süsteemaatiliselt juba mitmekümned aastad viiakse minema, saadetakse teistele või lihtsalt põletatakse,
heaküll, nad osa soojust juhivad küll enda talvel soendamiseks.. aga nagu lihtsalt põletada sedasi kiiruga sellist ainet ära,
samas olles ise nii tark ja salakaval maa..
MIne tea, vot ei tea mis neil plaanis on, aga ilmselgelt siin laulus, ei keerate me osas armastust üles,
Kõik me möletame veel ju seda Naaritsa lugu,
Kus nad võõrnaaritsa oma maale viisid, et selle läbi pärast enda maal hirmu selgitamis lugu tekitada reaalse näidetena inimeste puhul, et oleks lihtne aru saada ka igal lapsel.
6 December 2015 15:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kudi see selleks
6 December 2015 14:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nii, seega,
kui nüüd sellised, kes süsteemi endal üles seadnud kopeerides seda mida teistel väljas nägid, ja proovides seda ka töös hoida, kuid , /siin kohal Ameerika Clintoni "did not have..." näide tuli meelde, kus pigem oige vale oli se mis tegi, sest kaitses naise au.
Aga siis naisega kudagi läks ikka sedasi, et naise eest otsustati naise läbi meest süüdistada
kui nüüd sellised, kes süsteemi endal üles seadnud kopeerides seda mida teistel väljas nägid, ja proovides seda ka töös hoida, kuid , /siin kohal Ameerika Clintoni "did not have..." näide tuli meelde, kus pigem oige vale oli se mis tegi, sest kaitses naise au.
Aga siis naisega kudagi läks ikka sedasi, et naise eest otsustati naise läbi meest süüdistada
6 December 2015 14:47
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehk siis viimase osa selgeks lihtsamaks selgituseks,
Et see mida suurem osa ette kujutab arvestatakse kui seadus,
Et see mida suurem osa ette kujutab arvestatakse kui seadus,
6 December 2015 14:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuidugi vaja siinkohal mõelda, et miks see seotud on "Ime küll, et ära keelatud" asjaga pole, sest noh... mida selle kolme pildi pealt, enne asja vaatamist, võib keegi kokku arvata, kui nüüd laulu sõnad ja need pildid ainult kokku panna ilma algse vidota?
Siis ära otsustada mis ideoloogia see on, selle põhjal mis ette kujutati mis selle põhjal mida nägime, juhtuda võis, tõlgendame selle kui juhtunuks, ja siis selle põhjal...
Siis ära otsustada mis ideoloogia see on, selle põhjal mis ette kujutati mis selle põhjal mida nägime, juhtuda võis, tõlgendame selle kui juhtunuks, ja siis selle põhjal...
6 December 2015 14:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
6 December 2015 14:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Maci osa sobralt, ei tea mis mote sel veel, pidi seostuma,
kui siis kas selles mõlemas postiivne võimalus?
kui siis kas selles mõlemas postiivne võimalus?
6 December 2015 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Et lugu tuleb, aga vb ei tule ka, mine sa Assot tea,
Ikka hea .)
Ikka hea .)
5 December 2015 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on Annie NevermiSs Kistdanni's photo.
Ve could run the streets with you in here
5 December 2015 07:37
Margus Meigo commented on Annie NevermiSs Kistdanni's photo.
Waaaooouuu! Youuuu peaoppe!!!!!!!
5 December 2015 07:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Isegi homodel oma koht, ja ma ei räägi seinaääres olemisest.. vaid noh, neil see koht looduses, et mehi sundida meesteks olemisele... ja et meid õpetada, kuisuur robotvõim siin kosmoses on, kui me omakeskis kodus pihku taome ja dgitaalseid naisi vahime samal ajal kui oma naise osas alandlikust üles näidata ei oska, või lausa räägime taga
4 December 2015 14:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui aga valesse kohta sittuda, siis poel sital suurt väärtust ja lausa kahju teeb
4 December 2015 14:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
indeed, ma tolereerin igast sitta, seni kuni ta otse mulle kurgust alla tulema ei hakka, igal sital oma koht, väetiseks või muidu kütuseks, mõnele masinale
4 December 2015 14:33
Margus Meigo commented on Filmitalgud's video.
Muidugi olge ettevaatlik igast viisnurkade toppimisega kaunistustesse :P :P
4 December 2015 12:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sirbi enda lugu
http://www.sirp.ee/s1-artiklid/c9-sotsiaalia/ilves-karu-ja-kolm-naaritsat/
http://www.sirp.ee/s1-artiklid/c9-sotsiaalia/ilves-karu-ja-kolm-naaritsat/
http://www.sirp.ee/s1-artiklid/c9-sotsiaalia/ilves-karu-ja-kolm-naaritsat/
4 December 2015 11:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi, see lubati, kuigi point on sama.. ja kehtib nii "ameeeriklaste" kui muude tulnukate suhtes, nii heade kui halbade, nii nende poolt keda Sumeri orjalaagrites vorbiti ja kes segunema muude inimliikidega hakkasid kui muust vaimumaailmast tulnutele homo ja robot liikidele, kui nii võib väljendada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbTBvGxlrSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbTBvGxlrSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbTBvGxlrSw
4 December 2015 11:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuigi mul maailma parimad õpetused ammu käpärast..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vmTSdxxnTw&list=PL0BEAFA861BC8811C
Siin ühes tykis.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBdf8xLKgOY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vmTSdxxnTw&list=PL0BEAFA861BC8811C
Siin ühes tykis.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBdf8xLKgOY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vmTSdxxnTw&list=PL0BEAFA861BC8811C
4 December 2015 04:04
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Natuke ühe ja teise küljepealt, kunagi ammu lugemiseks
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t90031/
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread107150/pg1
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t90031/
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread107150/pg1
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t90031/
4 December 2015 03:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid eks see on nagu laulmisega, tuleb mingi aeg
4 December 2015 03:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ei
4 December 2015 03:37
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
seda nagunii, kuid ju ta ikka ise ka oli,
selle taimetoidu ja looma kaitse revolutsiooni tegi raudselt ta ise
selle taimetoidu ja looma kaitse revolutsiooni tegi raudselt ta ise
4 December 2015 03:37
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
ei ole veel kuulda olnud kordagi, et ta oma silmaga ühtegi kambrit näinud või külastanud oleks
4 December 2015 03:20
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
eks ta sõi porgandit, ube, kapsast.. nagu normaalsed iniemsed ikka
4 December 2015 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
"selline suutis olla"
4 December 2015 03:13
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
ei nu misassja :D
4 December 2015 03:12
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
oot mis asja, ta oli punapea v
4 December 2015 03:12
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
asoo
missassja. ma ei teadnutki
missassja. ma ei teadnutki
4 December 2015 03:12
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Sa seda heas või mitte has mõttes mõtlesid ?
4 December 2015 03:11
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
oot ta ka punapea v?
4 December 2015 03:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vastupidi, kui palvetada oskaks siis palvetaks, et kellegil enne veel tekkiks soov, kuni veel lootust on
4 December 2015 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Ta muidu oli siiani vist kõige suurema looduse kaitsmise ja taimetoidu suuna looja kes kunagi olnud on sel planeedil, siiani,
4 December 2015 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Sexy mamma : )
4 December 2015 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
and what happens, with these people who hurt or damage or assault police, from where they should get fired from as member of humanity4 December 2015 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
yeah that is a way to fight , lets hurt the budget that is made up anyway and for what they punish in return everyone else that in return will turn against you... so basically, that is as perfect as it gets for them, as it is like they would hire someone to damage them self.4 December 2015 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
lol, hit police budget..4 December 2015 03:03
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Väga hea : ))
:D
:D
4 December 2015 02:50
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Ja mis ta räägib?
4 December 2015 02:50
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
ei see pole ka must, see lihtsalt..
4 December 2015 02:50
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
Must huumor oleks siis olnud, kui kaks neegrit öösel mustamäe vahel vene pensionäri röövida üritasid aga mammi ei näinud midagi ja läks edasi
4 December 2015 02:49
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Seda laulu tead mis ta toaeg laulis?
https://www.facebook.com/Waffa.ee/videos/vb.14202806093/1077974946337/
https://www.facebook.com/Waffa.ee/videos/vb.14202806093/1077974946337/
4 December 2015 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Jumal huumorit Armastab
4 December 2015 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Mis kaart Sul nõpus on?
4 December 2015 02:32
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Kunstiline : )
4 December 2015 02:29
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Ashoo : )
4 December 2015 02:28
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
tuletab mulle mu "blue christmas" pilti meelde, kus jõulu masenduse pildi tegin ükskord, ammu
4 December 2015 02:28
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
tead küll, see piir kus maalt hakad mõtlema, et nii ikka olla ei saa :D
4 December 2015 02:27
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Inno's photo.
Peaaegu, et liiga ilus
4 December 2015 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
väga lihtne, lihtsalt pole kedagi kes veel avastanud oleks, et on mõtet, sest soovitakse vähemat kuid maiselt midagi rohkemat, käega katsutavamat ja ei miskit suurt rohkemat...
4 December 2015 02:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
neid mitmeid,
4 December 2015 02:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ahh. see .. kokkusattumus lihtsalt, lisasin juurde, et huvitavam oleks
4 December 2015 02:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
muidu temal siin veel: https://www.instagram.com/fantasy_pic_drawings/
https://www.instagram.com/fantasy_pic_drawings/
4 December 2015 02:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
reptiilid üldse heasüdamlikud ja soojad niipalju kui ma arusaanud olen, võrreldes hingetute olenditega
4 December 2015 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga päris ma ei mõistam ida märkama peaks, ma siin muus teadvuses ka vahepeal.. .. ja nüüd peale Su seletust ka ma ike ei mõista.. ma siin kukkusin vist paar astet kuhugi, üldse ei mõista ega ei ole isegi viitsimise suurt tunnet ja himu mõistmiseks praegu hmm
4 December 2015 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kui heleduse spectrumi järgi pana siis oleks Siini. Rohe, Lilla, Punane, Roosa, Helesinine, Kollane .. hmm
4 December 2015 02:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aitah
4 December 2015 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mustvalge psychedelic Gekkotaline
4 December 2015 00:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
4 December 2015 00:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hmm, mis mõttega, mis mõttega seda mõtlesid mis küsisd?
4 December 2015 00:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nii umbes 400 + nende sõprade käest
3 December 2015 23:42
Margus Meigo commented on Estonian Anonymous's link.
Nu see pede oleks ikka kõvasti molli saanud kui ta oleks julgenud teisimoodi hääletada..
3 December 2015 23:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aitah!
Ja mees kes teab, jääb Loodud Sinule...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEfY9SnjV1I&list=RDVEfY9SnjV1I .. ja tunnete keel
Ja mees kes teab, jääb Loodud Sinule...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEfY9SnjV1I&list=RDVEfY9SnjV1I .. ja tunnete keel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEfY9SnjV1I&list=RDVEfY9SnjV1I
3 December 2015 20:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mehed pole kurjad kes arusaavad, et naised kurjad pole ning soovivad ka selle poole suunas hoida.
Kes aga Naisi robotite või ajutise mõnu vastu välja vahetada soovivad, nemad ise küll ei pruugi olla kurjad kuid nad töötavad lähimõõtes hea vastu.
Kes aga Naisi robotite või ajutise mõnu vastu välja vahetada soovivad, nemad ise küll ei pruugi olla kurjad kuid nad töötavad lähimõõtes hea vastu.
3 December 2015 20:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
where no emotions or "value" or right and wrong is not taken in to account, just votes...
3 December 2015 18:58
Margus Meigo commented on Olly Siochana's post.
There has been strange things as well,,, where daily loads of my contacts have gone away (by looking my friend count.. with no posts.. daily it went less and less...) also got me a bit paranoid at first... and many other times...
but this is main simple error in here... what FB do not know how to handle, is coordinated attack against someone, where group of people "report" about u and... it all looks legal.. and normal.. for system to take You down... this is the great minus of demoN-Crazy
but this is main simple error in here... what FB do not know how to handle, is coordinated attack against someone, where group of people "report" about u and... it all looks legal.. and normal.. for system to take You down... this is the great minus of demoN-Crazy
3 December 2015 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on Olly Siochana's post.
well, important is to let know people, what u did not like etc.. and then removing this person from YOUR personal feed..
and then this person can also select, the one who posts, to remove that person from a friend list..
as jes.. if many people , report ur posts then algorithm robot might look it as "this person posts sucks"
.. but better would be , if these persons jsut remove them self from a friend list,... not just report ur posts..
and ur posts are near Great and awesome, i cant see anyone having real reason to block them.
and then this person can also select, the one who posts, to remove that person from a friend list..
as jes.. if many people , report ur posts then algorithm robot might look it as "this person posts sucks"
.. but better would be , if these persons jsut remove them self from a friend list,... not just report ur posts..
and ur posts are near Great and awesome, i cant see anyone having real reason to block them.
3 December 2015 18:55
Margus Meigo commented on Olly Siochana's post.
You can be sure, if You post this kind of Name on the start of post, that You will Not be filtered.
Better try with some 5-7 extraordinary revealing post and ask in private, another IM system, if that message was shown... if ya wanna know : )
Better try with some 5-7 extraordinary revealing post and ask in private, another IM system, if that message was shown... if ya wanna know : )
3 December 2015 18:16
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Tundub, et ilm on pilvine..
3 December 2015 18:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid eks see ole muidugi ohtlik, kakaga mängides partamatult jääb endale ka hais kylge või määrid mud moodi.. kuid ju nad teavad..
3 December 2015 17:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thea Inno need asjad kui nood naised seda teevad, on enamasti kurjuse naeruvääristamiseks, hiljem, sest siis kurjus näeb, et nad ei saanud kuskile ennast tõsta, isegi lavale mitte, ilma nende naiste loata ... olgu nad kui tegijad tahes.. aga lihtsate loovate asjadega nad ise hakkama ei saa, ilma inimeste armastuseta
3 December 2015 17:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"osasi laule aint naised tohiks esitada, kui mehed esitavad siis see vale"
Sellega ma mõtlesin seda, näiteks see laul leierdati iniseva häälega, vale tooniga raadios niii ära..., et armastust lämmatada. Tegelikult need lauli sõnad tõesed ja suurima tõetähendusega ainult siis on kui Naine nii räägib.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39_OmBO9jVg
Sellega ma mõtlesin seda, näiteks see laul leierdati iniseva häälega, vale tooniga raadios niii ära..., et armastust lämmatada. Tegelikult need lauli sõnad tõesed ja suurima tõetähendusega ainult siis on kui Naine nii räägib.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39_OmBO9jVg
3 December 2015 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
:D
3 December 2015 03:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgXDyOBJuss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgXDyOBJuss
3 December 2015 03:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
on sur vah kas mees või naine teeb midagi.. ja asj utuleb nende viljadest vaadata
3 December 2015 03:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tuleb vaadata parimad videod ja sõnumid ja siis läbi nende, nagu prilliklaaside, vaadata muude asjade tõehendust mida ja miks nad teevad, võttes arvesse uue aluspõhja, uue tõe, et miks ja mida nad teevad...
3 December 2015 03:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
estifolklooris ka ju õpetatud, et võid sarvikuga pulida ja diile teha, kui oled piisavalt ark, et ta üle mängida pärast
3 December 2015 03:10
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
see, et keegi midagi näitab või promob või etendab, ei tähnda, et ta seda heas valguses või nende toetamise eesmärgil teeb keda ta näitab või paljastab
3 December 2015 03:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja ma pole ikkagi, nainud, yhtegi korda, kus nad kurjasti oleks promonud neid asj uselliselt, et nad valetaksid või meelega , kus nad meelega pahu asju näidanud on heas valguses... et seda ma poel näinud
3 December 2015 03:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sest nad peavad väga mitut virtuaalset riista korraga rahuldama
3 December 2015 03:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nad vägagi otse ütlevad ju, selle piires mis neil plaadilepingu alles hoiavad ja elu
3 December 2015 03:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
samas maailma enim grammisi ja suurauhindasi saanud laulja, kes kristlike kantrilaule laulab.. on enamusele maailmale tundmatu ... isegi mu lta nimi pragu meelest lainud .. kud ta saanud rohkem auhindasi üksi kui u2
3 December 2015 03:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tuleb võrrelda PÄRIS kurjadega.. kelle sõnad on puhtalt paha suunalised... neid väga palju kuid pea mitte keegi neist pole saanud suureks, õnneks,
ja eelkõige, sest perryde taolised levelid on ees, kes hoaiavad produtsentide kohti kinni, et suvalist kurjust ei saaks tyhja kohta tõitma
ja eelkõige, sest perryde taolised levelid on ees, kes hoaiavad produtsentide kohti kinni, et suvalist kurjust ei saaks tyhja kohta tõitma
3 December 2015 03:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kui me oma elu lõpuni välja elame, siis saame ehk ka teada, siis nad ehk saavad ka oma sõnades rääkida, miks mida ja kudias kellele nad näitasid ja paljastasid ja näidendasid
3 December 2015 03:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sh. ta viimane alasti rituaal mlle videod netis lekivad
3 December 2015 03:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thea Inno just. väga hästi näitab neid asu, et arusaadaks mis toimub ja kes ja kus
3 December 2015 03:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis noh...nende enda show off on "This is how we do it" ... kus enamvähem räägib.. kuidas suurt taset, levelit, muuseas nad teevad... et muuseas teevad... mägides targal ja pealiskaudsel meedia levelil samal ajal
3 December 2015 02:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või see teine kerglaselt tunduv... California Girls... kus ta ütleb muuseas "Something must be in te water..."
3 December 2015 02:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
isegi see kõige lihtlabasem laul temalt, mis tundub eriti mõtetu paljduele ja lihtsalt ilma sygavuseta.. see "Birthday.." kus ta mõita annab mis moodi inimste reaalsuse saab nullida ja ta uute elusse panna.. ku ivaja.. et selliste jõududega tegeleme
3 December 2015 02:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tugevalt armastuse ja usu symbolitega tegeleb ja palju muu heaga.. lisaks veel kõrgklassi robot inimeste paljastamise jsm... muidugi eks siin interneti info põhjal teda ära likvideeeritud... kuid eks need kes likviderisid ja ta asendasid. .ned omakorda suurtemate jõudude poolt asendatakse... tagasi uuesti ja tava rahavs ei teagi mis suured madinad ja sõjad toimunud on vahepeal
3 December 2015 02:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Perry ka kristlikute juurtega
3 December 2015 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mitte aga tõsuta yles ja headuse vastu rääkida... ja seda need artistid nagu Perry, Gaga, Madonna jms poel kunagi teinud
3 December 2015 02:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et hullude eemale melitamiseks päris kurjusest vaja natuke hullu panna ise ka.. kuid samas hida põhijoont headuse suunal ja ligi
3 December 2015 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
gaga on nagu hitler... kui poleks teda, siis suur kuri tuleks ja allutaks palju jubedamalt ... nagu madonna.. pani standari ett, et võlts naine ei saaks tulla ja rahavast hullusele allutada
3 December 2015 02:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
nemad õpivad ikka mida vaja... samm sammult ja eelkõige kõige lõpus
3 December 2015 02:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vut... et nagu tal tuleb mängida freeky. .et freekide sisse systida arusaama ja armastust.. ja sisi tava tarkadle ta neid videosi teeb.. kus infot rohkem kui kuhjaga.. rohkem ku iwikiliiks suutnud avalikustada on :D
3 December 2015 02:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vaata seda videot ka
3 December 2015 02:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ma seda ei oska seletada, aga niisee on
3 December 2015 02:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Siin siis mitmes levelis video selle kohta, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA
3 December 2015 02:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Lady Gagal oli nende tulnukate kohta hea video.. kus väga peenelt seda naise ohverdust ja Alexander Suurhomo liiga väärastunud armastust näitas nii peenelt... eriti arvestades, et ta fänklubi on päris homorikas, ja väärastunud rikas ... aimamatult.. et Gaga ise on konservatiivne Naine... kes meelega oma fänne "Little mosters" kutsub ..
3 December 2015 02:33
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Greeka-Rooma Homod
3 December 2015 02:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thea Inno nu kas seleks peab nagu kirsaga kõripeale astuma või whatafak nagu.. ur species is messed up still, girl
" It sucks when someone's choking me and I pass out but then they stop fucking me :/ "
Answer: It’s only polite to keep going after your partner goes limp
" It sucks when someone's choking me and I pass out but then they stop fucking me :/ "
Answer: It’s only polite to keep going after your partner goes limp
3 December 2015 02:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga kas sellist käitumist ja asju on vaja hoida elus siin planeedil, või tuleks kasutada välja juurimiseks... tsüaniidi vms:
"I grab you by your hair, and throw you to the floor. “You’ve been a bad girl and you need to be punished. Now lie on your back.” You do as you’re told, knowing that disobeying me now would be worse than what you did before. I stand over you and place my boot on your throat. “Don’t you dare look away from me, understand?” You nod nervously. I begin to put my weight on your neck, slowly crushing your throat. You begin to writhe under my foot, grabbing at my ankles. I increase the pressure slightly and you loose your focus. I reach down and slap you in the face. “I told you not to look away, slut.” I increase the pressure on your throat until all I hear out of you is a strained gurgle. I watch from above as you struggle to stay awake and focused on me. You begin to weaken and I know it won’t be long for you now. just before you pass out I ask you “Are you sorry?” You nod weakly, tears streaming down your face. “Are you going to be a good girl from now on and do as Daddy says?” You nod once more. “Good, now take a little nap here on the floor.” I put more weight on your neck and you go out quickly. When you come to you see me sitting in a chair in front of you. my pants are off and my hard cock is out. “Good to see you finally decided to wake up. Now come over here and convince me of why I should keep you.” You manage to cough out a “Yes Daddy.” as you crawl over to me You take my cock into your mouth and begin to service me “Now make me cum before I decide to punish you some more.”..
"I grab you by your hair, and throw you to the floor. “You’ve been a bad girl and you need to be punished. Now lie on your back.” You do as you’re told, knowing that disobeying me now would be worse than what you did before. I stand over you and place my boot on your throat. “Don’t you dare look away from me, understand?” You nod nervously. I begin to put my weight on your neck, slowly crushing your throat. You begin to writhe under my foot, grabbing at my ankles. I increase the pressure slightly and you loose your focus. I reach down and slap you in the face. “I told you not to look away, slut.” I increase the pressure on your throat until all I hear out of you is a strained gurgle. I watch from above as you struggle to stay awake and focused on me. You begin to weaken and I know it won’t be long for you now. just before you pass out I ask you “Are you sorry?” You nod weakly, tears streaming down your face. “Are you going to be a good girl from now on and do as Daddy says?” You nod once more. “Good, now take a little nap here on the floor.” I put more weight on your neck and you go out quickly. When you come to you see me sitting in a chair in front of you. my pants are off and my hard cock is out. “Good to see you finally decided to wake up. Now come over here and convince me of why I should keep you.” You manage to cough out a “Yes Daddy.” as you crawl over to me You take my cock into your mouth and begin to service me “Now make me cum before I decide to punish you some more.”..
3 December 2015 02:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Hmm, see asjalikuim selgitus mida siiani mõelnud olen
3 December 2015 02:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
...with the occasional drowning... damn.. tulnukatel ole lihtne ... kapist välja tulla, kui siin spektrum on Selline millega arvestama peab..
3 December 2015 02:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
http://sexychoking.tumblr.com Lots and lots of sexy choking, asphyxiation, strangulation, and suffocation porn. With the occasional drowning
3 December 2015 02:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jeerum ma ikka pean seda ka jagama... tsekka seda, naise pilguna.. ja proovi mulle selgust anda... mis toimub, esimesed paar lehte vähemasti.. et nagu SEERIOUSLY:.. mis moodi saame maailma normaalSeks kui meeste silmis naised mitmed seda soovivad (ja neegrite komuunis olles, nad suht veendunult räägivad ualkalt, et tegelikult kõik naised ikka seda tahavad sedasi, et neile koha kätte näitad... MAYBE so...in A WAY.. BUT:... kuid arvestades kesmise kohakätenäitaja arusaame kõigest muust elust... vot selliste murede lahendamisega tegeleda proovin ka)
3 December 2015 02:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
iiu ära aja hulli juttu
3 December 2015 02:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kusjurures see üks metsatälli laulja on nagu naised juba, mukib ripsmeid jms
3 December 2015 02:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
irwwwwww
3 December 2015 02:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et nagu selle viimase punkti osas, et mis teema see on, et kust see kiiks või mood tuli, et naised ennast pügavad nagu... kas need karvad just teiste kubemekarvadega on ehk just selleks loodud, et iga väike ühenduseke närvisüsteemiga aitab aktiviseerida kõige kõrgemas astmes just seda mida vaja ?
Lisaks sellele, et mõnusam on... või et mis teema selle pügamisega on? Osadel naistel ma täheldanud, et kohe nagu hirm, et siis pole asjad korras kui sääselennuväli pole...
millal ja kuidas see mood tuli.. ja mis tegelikud tõed node asjade taga on, lisaks sellele, et see olevat ühiskona moodus, trikk , proovida mehi pedofiilsemateks ja naisi vähem naiselikumaks, enda naiselikust häbenema panna
Lisaks sellele, et mõnusam on... või et mis teema selle pügamisega on? Osadel naistel ma täheldanud, et kohe nagu hirm, et siis pole asjad korras kui sääselennuväli pole...
millal ja kuidas see mood tuli.. ja mis tegelikud tõed node asjade taga on, lisaks sellele, et see olevat ühiskona moodus, trikk , proovida mehi pedofiilsemateks ja naisi vähem naiselikumaks, enda naiselikust häbenema panna
3 December 2015 02:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid see siis naistele õpetus:
... nad kasutavad siin sõna penetreeerima... nagu mingi Rooma sõjavägi
#1 Foreplay expectations. It’s natural that a girl expects foreplay in bed. It’s even acceptable if you expect him to indulge in foreplay before he gets on top of you. But are you the kind of girl who expects him to go down on you each time for a good half an hour and still spend a while teasing you and running his hands all over you?
Do you pout or roll your eyes if your guy doesn’t worship you with his hands and tongue until he’s exhausted before penetrating you? Nagging your partner constantly to indulge in excessive foreplay could scare him, or make him think twice before he even tries to sneak in a quickie with you ever again.
"you NEED to remember..."
#2 Dirty interrogations. Does he talk about his dark fantasies while having sex with you? You need to remember that dirty talking is just that, and not something you need to take seriously or feel threatened by. [Read: How to fantasize about someone else in bed]
If your partner tells you about how he’d like to watch you with someone else, or a fictional story about how he grabbed another girl’s ass at a party, do you stop him right there and start interrogating him in bed? Dirty talking is wild imagination and not necessarily something that’s true. If you constantly ask your partner to explain himself, during or after sex, he’ll just end up clamming up each time both of you have sex. [Read: 23 sexy tips to dirty talk and say the sexiest things!]
Wau milline ponus lisaks veel! Goodie Goodie!
#8 Weird behavior. Do you feel teary eyed after you have sex? Do you love cuddling up with a guy even if it’s a one night stand? Or do you expect the guy to pillow talk with you for hours even if he’s feeling sleepy? This is something that’s to each her own, but if your guy says something you do in bed is weird, take the hint!
ummm.. what a (no) f ...
SEE VÄÄGA kurjami veider teguviis HULL tüdruk, tahad peale seksi inimesega kallistada ja .. mida kõike veel,
muidugi kui ta deep throatima sind hakkab ja gagima, siis .. no alarm here, just swallow it or you will scare this tresure guy away....
OKey, see sõnakasutus siin eelmisi teemasi arvestades ja kogu see.. seda , siia ei oska midagi lisadagi muud kui et.. umm,,, veelkord, see on Naisteleht...
#11 Chore sex. “I’m ovulating today, let’s have sex!” Sex should never feel like a chore. The very day sex starts to feel like a chore is when the sexual side of the relationship starts to go downhill.
If you really want to get your guy to have sex with you for any reason at all, tease him into it instead of Forcing the idea Down his Throat. No guy likes being Forced into having sex because guys usually Choke under Pressure. And the whole experience just makes him feel used! [Read: 10 ways to please a man in bed and everywhere else]
holy crap.. ja siis nagu peale sellist sõnade kasutamist nad veel panid naise tundma, et ta meest ära ei kasutaks sedasi... wau, tase, põnev!
Whats next! ?
Okey hullemaks ei andnud minna, kuid nagu see 14 tõi mind ringiga küsimuseni, mida ma millegi pärast, eelmise jutu vahepeal kuskil küsida nagunii tahtisn...
#14 Unmanageable coochie. A guy may not say this to your face because he wouldn’t want to hurt your feelings. But if he’s not going down on you often, it’s probably because you have an unmanageable coochie in your panties.
Guys do want to go down on a girl *unless you’re nagging him to do it all the time!* but if you have a wild forest in your panties....
...he may choose to wrap the blanket tighter around his neck to avoid getting turned off by the things going on down there!
Hüüumärk ka lõppu, et ikka kohe päris ära ehmatada...
http://www.lovepanky.com/women/understanding-men/things-you-do-that-turn-him-off-while-having-sex
... nad kasutavad siin sõna penetreeerima... nagu mingi Rooma sõjavägi
#1 Foreplay expectations. It’s natural that a girl expects foreplay in bed. It’s even acceptable if you expect him to indulge in foreplay before he gets on top of you. But are you the kind of girl who expects him to go down on you each time for a good half an hour and still spend a while teasing you and running his hands all over you?
Do you pout or roll your eyes if your guy doesn’t worship you with his hands and tongue until he’s exhausted before penetrating you? Nagging your partner constantly to indulge in excessive foreplay could scare him, or make him think twice before he even tries to sneak in a quickie with you ever again.
"you NEED to remember..."
#2 Dirty interrogations. Does he talk about his dark fantasies while having sex with you? You need to remember that dirty talking is just that, and not something you need to take seriously or feel threatened by. [Read: How to fantasize about someone else in bed]
If your partner tells you about how he’d like to watch you with someone else, or a fictional story about how he grabbed another girl’s ass at a party, do you stop him right there and start interrogating him in bed? Dirty talking is wild imagination and not necessarily something that’s true. If you constantly ask your partner to explain himself, during or after sex, he’ll just end up clamming up each time both of you have sex. [Read: 23 sexy tips to dirty talk and say the sexiest things!]
Wau milline ponus lisaks veel! Goodie Goodie!
#8 Weird behavior. Do you feel teary eyed after you have sex? Do you love cuddling up with a guy even if it’s a one night stand? Or do you expect the guy to pillow talk with you for hours even if he’s feeling sleepy? This is something that’s to each her own, but if your guy says something you do in bed is weird, take the hint!
ummm.. what a (no) f ...
SEE VÄÄGA kurjami veider teguviis HULL tüdruk, tahad peale seksi inimesega kallistada ja .. mida kõike veel,
muidugi kui ta deep throatima sind hakkab ja gagima, siis .. no alarm here, just swallow it or you will scare this tresure guy away....
OKey, see sõnakasutus siin eelmisi teemasi arvestades ja kogu see.. seda , siia ei oska midagi lisadagi muud kui et.. umm,,, veelkord, see on Naisteleht...
#11 Chore sex. “I’m ovulating today, let’s have sex!” Sex should never feel like a chore. The very day sex starts to feel like a chore is when the sexual side of the relationship starts to go downhill.
If you really want to get your guy to have sex with you for any reason at all, tease him into it instead of Forcing the idea Down his Throat. No guy likes being Forced into having sex because guys usually Choke under Pressure. And the whole experience just makes him feel used! [Read: 10 ways to please a man in bed and everywhere else]
holy crap.. ja siis nagu peale sellist sõnade kasutamist nad veel panid naise tundma, et ta meest ära ei kasutaks sedasi... wau, tase, põnev!
Whats next! ?
Okey hullemaks ei andnud minna, kuid nagu see 14 tõi mind ringiga küsimuseni, mida ma millegi pärast, eelmise jutu vahepeal kuskil küsida nagunii tahtisn...
#14 Unmanageable coochie. A guy may not say this to your face because he wouldn’t want to hurt your feelings. But if he’s not going down on you often, it’s probably because you have an unmanageable coochie in your panties.
Guys do want to go down on a girl *unless you’re nagging him to do it all the time!* but if you have a wild forest in your panties....
...he may choose to wrap the blanket tighter around his neck to avoid getting turned off by the things going on down there!
Hüüumärk ka lõppu, et ikka kohe päris ära ehmatada...
http://www.lovepanky.com/women/understanding-men/things-you-do-that-turn-him-off-while-having-sex
http://www.lovepanky.com/women/understanding-men/things-you-do-that-turn-him-off-while-having-sex
3 December 2015 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
KUid päeva pirn on järgmine leht, ma ei haka ylejäänudesse sisse minemagi , mida on tajooba ( https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&biw=1169&bih=703&q=sex+game+gagging+OR+choking&oq=sex+game+gagging+OR+choking ) .. kuid oot ma selle lehe veel jagan...
https://www.google.ee/search?num=100&newwindow=1&biw=1169&bih=703&q=sex+game+gagging+OR+choking&oq=sex+game+gagging+OR+choking
3 December 2015 01:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ma ei julge rabbit holet enam googledada peale seda, kui see mu kontole salvestatud on , tont teab mis siit tula võib...
abivalmis google personaliseerib ju igast soovitusi.
abivalmis google personaliseerib ju igast soovitusi.
3 December 2015 01:56
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Rabbit hole continues... (need mul olid juba eelnevalt lahti võetud koos selle Loova mänguga.. mida sa eeldatavasti mängima jäid nüüd.. või keegi jäi vähemasti..)
"He may try to hit you, cut you, or use a painful object to penetrate you. There is real fear and real pain. In situations like this, a lover will push you to go further every time you have sex. One time he may simply request putting handcuffs on you. The next time he wants to gag you. He goads you into a position where you are completely helpless, and once he does, he causes damage. You end up with bruises and become frightened. You find yourself ashamed and scared, with no one to talk to. Sensing your doubt, your lover says it’s all a game, but this is no game. This is a deviant desire which is designed to make you into nothing more than a sex object. Very, very dangerous activity can leave you dead. If you see yourself here, then get help.
Is your lover asking to choke you while having sex? If so, be warned. Someone who wants to strangle during sex has paired sex and violence. Such behavior does not end well. You have to ask yourself why he would want to cut off your air during sex."
yeah.. tõesti.. kui selle peale ise ei tule, siis peab seda internetist lugema.. et HMMMMM ta armatsemise aeg soovis mind või ennast kägistada.. et siin on VIST midagi veidrat ... pole ka päris kindel... kuid nagu loomad vist ei tee sedasi, eriti..:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/disturbed/201209/is-your-lover-pervert
"He may try to hit you, cut you, or use a painful object to penetrate you. There is real fear and real pain. In situations like this, a lover will push you to go further every time you have sex. One time he may simply request putting handcuffs on you. The next time he wants to gag you. He goads you into a position where you are completely helpless, and once he does, he causes damage. You end up with bruises and become frightened. You find yourself ashamed and scared, with no one to talk to. Sensing your doubt, your lover says it’s all a game, but this is no game. This is a deviant desire which is designed to make you into nothing more than a sex object. Very, very dangerous activity can leave you dead. If you see yourself here, then get help.
Is your lover asking to choke you while having sex? If so, be warned. Someone who wants to strangle during sex has paired sex and violence. Such behavior does not end well. You have to ask yourself why he would want to cut off your air during sex."
yeah.. tõesti.. kui selle peale ise ei tule, siis peab seda internetist lugema.. et HMMMMM ta armatsemise aeg soovis mind või ennast kägistada.. et siin on VIST midagi veidrat ... pole ka päris kindel... kuid nagu loomad vist ei tee sedasi, eriti..:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/disturbed/201209/is-your-lover-pervert
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/disturbed/201209/is-your-lover-pervert
3 December 2015 01:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
miks need vaesed hinged ei võiks pilve ennast tõmmata nagu normalsed inimesed:
"Teenagers aren’t the only ones at risk from death by asphyxiation, as adults may engage in grown-up, erotic “choking games.” Activities that suppress the flow of blood or oxygen to the brain to promote arousal and orgasm is known as erotic asphyxiation (also called “breath play,” “asphyxiophilia,” or “hypoxyphilia“). These activities may include constricting the throat or chest with nooses, hands, or ligatures; smothering or otherwise covering the nose or mouth with a plastic bag, mask, hand, pillow or other object, or deliberately inhaling gases or chemicals that reduce oxygen flow to the brain. These activities may be performed solo (autoerotic asphyxiation), or with a partner. The source of arousal may be linked to the “high” feeling and intensified orgasms that accompany oxygen deprivation (known as cerebral hypoxia), or enjoyment of the sensation of helplessness that accompanies restricted breathing. Erotic asphyxiation may be linked to bondage or other BD/SM activities, or cross-dressing.
The American Psychiatric Association classifies asphyxiophilia as a paraphilia in the 5th edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, as a sub-category of sexual masochism (though not all individuals who engage in asphyxiophilia consider themselves masochists)"
ahjaa.. nad ennast ei pea... lihtsalt neil meeldib ennast ja partnerit kägistada armatsemise aegas... normaalsed, noot
http://kinseyconfidential.org/choking-hazard-real-risks-erotic-asphyxiation/
"Teenagers aren’t the only ones at risk from death by asphyxiation, as adults may engage in grown-up, erotic “choking games.” Activities that suppress the flow of blood or oxygen to the brain to promote arousal and orgasm is known as erotic asphyxiation (also called “breath play,” “asphyxiophilia,” or “hypoxyphilia“). These activities may include constricting the throat or chest with nooses, hands, or ligatures; smothering or otherwise covering the nose or mouth with a plastic bag, mask, hand, pillow or other object, or deliberately inhaling gases or chemicals that reduce oxygen flow to the brain. These activities may be performed solo (autoerotic asphyxiation), or with a partner. The source of arousal may be linked to the “high” feeling and intensified orgasms that accompany oxygen deprivation (known as cerebral hypoxia), or enjoyment of the sensation of helplessness that accompanies restricted breathing. Erotic asphyxiation may be linked to bondage or other BD/SM activities, or cross-dressing.
The American Psychiatric Association classifies asphyxiophilia as a paraphilia in the 5th edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, as a sub-category of sexual masochism (though not all individuals who engage in asphyxiophilia consider themselves masochists)"
ahjaa.. nad ennast ei pea... lihtsalt neil meeldib ennast ja partnerit kägistada armatsemise aegas... normaalsed, noot
http://kinseyconfidential.org/choking-hazard-real-risks-erotic-asphyxiation/
http://kinseyconfidential.org/choking-hazard-real-risks-erotic-asphyxiation/
3 December 2015 01:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja see omakorda pani mind googlesse trykkima mida mida vist ei oleks pidanud ja avastasin igasugust harjutustegevusi mida asjalikud IT kutid meieni toonud on:
http://adult-sex-games.com/super-deepthroat
http://adult-sex-games.com/super-deepthroat
http://adult-sex-games.com/super-deepthroat
3 December 2015 01:41
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
George kuulamine üldse aitab vaimse tähemürgituse vastu, kuigi ta nagu see.. odav kylmarohi, palju liialt ka ei tohi sest sellel vanamehel ka oma tase, kust edasi ta ei liigu
3 December 2015 01:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ma siin just satusin mõttesse, et ega mitte, et väga palju hapniku kõvahoidmise jaoks vaja vist ei lähe arvestades seda poppi tegemist kus seksiaeg kägistatakse üksteist, see isegi mu lähedaste sõprade NAISTE poolt nõutud olen kuulnud.. kuid jah, siinkohal, mõtlesin just neile vaestele meestele kellest siin George juba juttu teinud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPH1fT1w5TI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPH1fT1w5TI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPH1fT1w5TI
3 December 2015 01:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis kohe, kerge vaevaga loob ta enamuste meeste peas nii, et hea, et veel erektsiooni jaoks hapniku liikumist jätkub
3 December 2015 01:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ega aint kitsust piisa, tissi peab ka ikka olema
3 December 2015 01:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Just, hea et välja aitasid sõber, mul oligi komentaar ka selle kohta kuid jäin profiil ivaadates mõttesse, et mida ma mõtlesingi...
3 December 2015 01:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
i like it my self
3 December 2015 01:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Süütute klubi
3 December 2015 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Me jutupeale fb hakkas uusi sõpru ka soovitama mulle, take look at her Posts... muidu täitsa eesti nimega peaaegu ja Edgar Savisaar ning Jevgeni Krishtafovitsh, Aapo Ilves ühised sõbrad, päris reaalne
https://www.facebook.com/marika.varik
https://www.facebook.com/marika.varik
3 December 2015 01:15
Margus Meigo replied to Thea Inno's comment.
on ikka kui tal on Aimu
3 December 2015 01:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vot jah.. mul seda arvutis polnud millegi pärast.. ta laulusõnu peab enamasti minusuguse kohmaka tajumisega inimesed veel tekstis ka läbi vaatama, et sügavamalt tajuda
3 December 2015 00:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ma nii poeetiline vahest ja geniaalne, et ise ka ennast kiidan, ja siis see väärt kiitus, sest ma juba tean mis on hea... : =
3 December 2015 00:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thea Inno soovin, et tuleks see mis tulema peab ja et seda muuta saaksime heaks nii kuis peaks ning siis võtta kogusellega kaasnev vastutus vastu ning kummardada tänulikult isegi kui vastus on, et silmad avades oled laborilauapeal pooliku kehaga juhtmed kuklas ja tarkvaralised maailmad läbi veenide jooksmas mida kõike päriseks pidasime, mis iganes tõde on õigem ja suurem on parem aksepteerida kui jaada samm allapoole ja siis selle najal proovida kogu loomigut parandada mida tegelikult pole olemas rohkem kui samm allpool olevat väljamõeldist.
Ehk siis lühidalt, soovin vastutust ja tõde
Ehk siis lühidalt, soovin, et oleks nii kuidas on (t)Hea
Ehk siis lühidalt, soovin vastutust ja tõde
Ehk siis lühidalt, soovin, et oleks nii kuidas on (t)Hea
3 December 2015 00:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
On see su ta lemmik ?
3 December 2015 00:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jup, seda ma arvastasin jah
3 December 2015 00:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ära kohvi peale aja
3 December 2015 00:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu jah, punakubemete pildid las jääda praegu...
3 December 2015 00:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thea Inno pilti ?
3 December 2015 00:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
On
3 December 2015 00:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
KUid kas punapäiseid mehi on siis ka olemas veel ?
3 December 2015 00:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thea Inno tagajärgi
3 December 2015 00:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Selles osas, et kui Sul hetke tundus suht masendav olla siin taolsite seas, et siis lootuses paremassse kohta edasi minna... et throw it to the ground u know..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ (just related, just for Meme explenaton)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ (just related, just for Meme explenaton)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ
3 December 2015 00:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Seriouslly, ma seda neile proovisin Protesti satanistide klubis ka selgitada, kus noored naised ähvardasid mulle kogu selle peorahvaga molli kütta kui ma veel sellist juttu räägin (et feminism on kapitalistide-kommunistide nais orjastamise süsteem mis väga pealiskaudne, ning keskendub naise madalale tasemele toomisele ehk siis palganumbrile mõtlemisele ainiti, nagu see oleks elukese.... samalajal kui naine ei peakski käima tööl vaid tegema seda mis Naisele südamekohane)
3 December 2015 00:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I love u i love u i love u Thea Inno Thea Kristal
3 December 2015 00:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid see suures plaanis ikkagi ei muuda seda mida teha vaja, lihtsalt kui peab arvestama, et me eri reaalsuste mullide, ja viiruse edasileviku hoidmise tarbes loodud suurpalatite, maailmade sees, et takistada levikut kogu ilma.. .et siis jah.. tuleb rohkem radikaalsem ja laiema ringiga olla tehes suurplaane poolte valimistel, et keda õpetada ja keda järgida
3 December 2015 00:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mul need nimed ei tule meelde.. kuid kui vaadata, viimast sumeri nais valitsejat, mis järgneva suurvõimu ja sumeri languse vahepea oli.. siis to see naine oli minu tunnetust mööda
3 December 2015 00:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kaugemale muidugi, eks Sumerid, kui nad tööorjasi vorpisid.. ja sel ajal kui meil siin MaaimadeValitsejad elasid ja sandaalides linnulaulu kuulsid.. eks juba tol ajal... näha oli, et siis mingi tulnuk rass neid Naisi tol ajal üle võtsid.. ja kui olid juba noa kõrile pannud siis nad ühe naise PÄRIS liigast, tõstsid pede-staalile, ja veel läbi temakese proovisid oma kontroll mehanismi ja võimu rakendada laiendada... ja siis sündisid uuesti eri nurkades eri moel nad, nagu viiruse puhang... Rooma-Greeka lihtsalt kena keskoht, mis mahub ka ilusti maailma ajaloo loomise sisse (6000, ega seda eriti palju rohkem paljudel pole, NENDE maailmas.. sest neid sõna otseses mõttes, olevat sis alles tehtud..)
3 December 2015 00:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sest tõde on miinimum kogu täiuses millega me peaksime soovima nõustuda
3 December 2015 00:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thea Inno mina soovin
3 December 2015 00:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid see suu kreeka komm oli päris hea, ma pean veel mõtlema sutsu selle peale ja siis uuesti vastama, seda tithi ei juhtu, et kohe õiget vastust poel
2 December 2015 23:57
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või pugem ol isee kanepi jutt, mis ta lõplikult põõraseks ajas
2 December 2015 23:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
üks jõmm tahtis sisse sõita mulle ükskord kui ütlesin ,et puude kallistamine on mõistlik tegu
2 December 2015 23:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
puukallistajad nad igatahes pole
2 December 2015 23:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Ülihästi, kuid ikkagi, need Greeka homode lapsed karjades jooksevad ringi keda nad vägisi rasestumiste ja muude trikitamiste kaudu tekitanud on süstemaatiliselt, sidunud inimrassiga endeid sedasi.. et nüüd nagu ei pandagi tähele enam.. kas tegu inimese või mõne muu inimvastase agendiga... ma lihtsustamise mõttes neid greeka-rooma homodeks nimetan, siis see hoiab visiooni silme ees, millistest projektidest ja milliste tarkustele põhinevate gruppidega tegu on
2 December 2015 23:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Aga selle naise elu on liiga paigas ja korralik ja kena ja ilus, et teda oma eluga segama hakata, ma pole päris sellel levelil, et temale huvi pakkuda, mitte ei ole alaväärsuskompleks, vaid lihtsalt, tunnetus.
Kuigi... punapea... kui ta päriselt on.. siis see mega haruldus, ja väga võimsa võlukunsti potensiaaliga .. nende hinged on suures hinnas
Kuigi... punapea... kui ta päriselt on.. siis see mega haruldus, ja väga võimsa võlukunsti potensiaaliga .. nende hinged on suures hinnas
2 December 2015 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Loodan, et enamus mu sõrmedega edastatud kirjatähti on loetavalt, mõistetavalt suures osas reas.... ma ise ei tegele enda asjade uuesti lugemise, parandmaisega... pool silmad kinni edastan seda mida läbi mu keha edastada proovitakse neis vastustes minu arusaamiste piires, ja vahest väljaspool seda ka...
siis loen ise oma asju ja õpin ise ka..
Kuid eks ükspäev saab need asjad "editud" ja ilusaks, õigeks, arusaadavaks, selgitustega koos nähtavaks tehtud..
siis loen ise oma asju ja õpin ise ka..
Kuid eks ükspäev saab need asjad "editud" ja ilusaks, õigeks, arusaadavaks, selgitustega koos nähtavaks tehtud..
2 December 2015 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ega ma liiga üle ei pannud ?
2 December 2015 23:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
naiste võimu orjastamise ja looduse ning tehnoloogia manipulerimiseläbi üksteist toetav kurjuse võrgustik mis kuni elementite kummardamiseni välja kelle tipud loonud mitmeid väärastunud liike ja sovivad likvideerida Nais olevust, sest see ei anna õiget praktilist vastust nende arvutustes,
ehk nagu greeka-rooma filosoofia aluspõhi on () mille põhjal meie koolisysteem ja kultuuri aluspind on seatud... ... et ,... et naine Greeka homode arvates on alaarenenud mees, või defektiga mees keda saab kasutada meeste tegemiseks kerge vaevaga (sest naised ise yles need mehed kasvatvad kes neid anastama hakkavad... mõned kaudselt, mõned otseselt motherfuckers... .. siin kultuuris see sõna lausa käibefraasiks toodud.. kus seda mõned eriti veidrad lausa enda kohta uhkusega kuulutavad..)
ehk nagu greeka-rooma filosoofia aluspõhi on () mille põhjal meie koolisysteem ja kultuuri aluspind on seatud... ... et ,... et naine Greeka homode arvates on alaarenenud mees, või defektiga mees keda saab kasutada meeste tegemiseks kerge vaevaga (sest naised ise yles need mehed kasvatvad kes neid anastama hakkavad... mõned kaudselt, mõned otseselt motherfuckers... .. siin kultuuris see sõna lausa käibefraasiks toodud.. kus seda mõned eriti veidrad lausa enda kohta uhkusega kuulutavad..)
2 December 2015 23:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ilmselgelt
2 December 2015 23:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
tähed on kurjast
2 December 2015 23:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Eelkõige PÄRIS feministid, või nais õiguslased ja mehed.. peaksid kirjutama sellistes portaalides neile hingedele.. ja hoiatama... et nad iga pauguga on seotud ainuüksi maiselt aastaid ja kosmiliselt kes teab mis uksed enda hinges avab kellele... ja jah.. eelkõige ka lihtsakoelised maised manipulaatorid... et mingi keskus teha, kuhu saadetakse edasi, haiged kirjad ja .. et neist saaks teha korraliku baasi.. ja siis neid mehi/aisi omakorda aidata...
sest osad naised ennast uskuma panud, et nad päriselt ka S and M i soovivad...
... vaimses mõttes muidugi osad naised teevad seda tööd.. et neid kolle mehest oma keha ohverdamisega välja teereenivad.. ja rahuldavad... et nad midagi hullemat ei teeks maailmale..
sest osad naised ennast uskuma panud, et nad päriselt ka S and M i soovivad...
... vaimses mõttes muidugi osad naised teevad seda tööd.. et neid kolle mehest oma keha ohverdamisega välja teereenivad.. ja rahuldavad... et nad midagi hullemat ei teeks maailmale..
2 December 2015 23:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thea Inno tõsi, neid naisi peaks kuidagi kaitsma selliste asjade eest. Ma paarile armsalt kõlavale @hot i aadressile kirjutasin ja sain tagasi sõnumi, et postkast täis, minu meil kohale ei jõudnud...
Ehk siis juba Tont teab mis pilte ja asju vaesekeste meilibox täis saadetud päevaga...
Ehk siis juba Tont teab mis pilte ja asju vaesekeste meilibox täis saadetud päevaga...
2 December 2015 23:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thea Inno (nägemise kohta) Be careful what Ya wish for..
2 December 2015 23:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid vahepeal kisub juba kergelt liiga esoteeriliseks,
Srry
Srry
2 December 2015 23:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thea Inno ja ei nad irvita... nutavad niii.. et ... pisarameri...
meri nii soolane nii soolane... selleks, et aru saaksime, kui palju pisaraid Naased me meesliikide pärast valanud on
meri nii soolane nii soolane... selleks, et aru saaksime, kui palju pisaraid Naased me meesliikide pärast valanud on
2 December 2015 23:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga kirjutame neile homme ?
2 December 2015 23:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Loomulikult peaks mees olema mehena siis nii oskuslik... et suudaks naise koju nurruma panna ja leidma moodused how to put sex back to nature....
Kuid noh, see selleks.
Matriarhaatliku abrahami usku shamaani poolse radikaalse hipina mul muidugi raske siin Suure Kurja advogati mängida, et meest palju õigustada, kuid nu peab ikka proovima, ikkagi liigikaaslane, ja liigikaaslast maha tõmmates tõmbad ju ennast ka maha...
Lihtsalt oluline proovida ühte ülesaidates, kõrgemale aidates mitte teisi ega kedagi alla tõmmata, et mitte teise alla tirimise arvelt mitte kedagi kõrgemale, paremasse valgusesse panna.. vaid alustuseks mingi selge standard luua...
kuid ega me siin paremat selgust ei saa enne, kui tollelt mehelt ta naise numbrit küsi...
mulle töökas naine sobiks kuna ma ise rahatu :D
Kuid noh, see selleks.
Matriarhaatliku abrahami usku shamaani poolse radikaalse hipina mul muidugi raske siin Suure Kurja advogati mängida, et meest palju õigustada, kuid nu peab ikka proovima, ikkagi liigikaaslane, ja liigikaaslast maha tõmmates tõmbad ju ennast ka maha...
Lihtsalt oluline proovida ühte ülesaidates, kõrgemale aidates mitte teisi ega kedagi alla tõmmata, et mitte teise alla tirimise arvelt mitte kedagi kõrgemale, paremasse valgusesse panna.. vaid alustuseks mingi selge standard luua...
kuid ega me siin paremat selgust ei saa enne, kui tollelt mehelt ta naise numbrit küsi...
mulle töökas naine sobiks kuna ma ise rahatu :D
2 December 2015 23:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thea Inno Klapib klapib... Sa unustasid ära, et see Naine on "rikkis" ehk siis unustas ära, et see maailm siin on Armastuse mitte orjamise jaoks.
Nende teeste meeste juures otsib ta võlts tunnustust, tiitleid ja vb isegi raha... sest ühiskond on selle kullakese pea sassi ajanud selliselt, pool kommunistliku feminismiga, et to arvab, et tal eneseteostust on vaja läbi töö rakendada, mehega olemise asemel. Et siis koos rakendada ja oma armastust maailmale ja üksteisele väljendada... kuid see kõigest üks teooria, ikkagi tegu ju 16 aastase abieluga.. ja igal lool on kaks poolt... tead kyll nagu see laul , mis kuulsa räpperile üks exnaine tagasi saatis, peale seda kui see räppar tast laulu tegi kui mõtetu eit to on (vist oli see nende draama selline ... ja siis naine selle lauluga omakorda kuulsaks sai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONcCGOabyyg)
Nende teeste meeste juures otsib ta võlts tunnustust, tiitleid ja vb isegi raha... sest ühiskond on selle kullakese pea sassi ajanud selliselt, pool kommunistliku feminismiga, et to arvab, et tal eneseteostust on vaja läbi töö rakendada, mehega olemise asemel. Et siis koos rakendada ja oma armastust maailmale ja üksteisele väljendada... kuid see kõigest üks teooria, ikkagi tegu ju 16 aastase abieluga.. ja igal lool on kaks poolt... tead kyll nagu see laul , mis kuulsa räpperile üks exnaine tagasi saatis, peale seda kui see räppar tast laulu tegi kui mõtetu eit to on (vist oli see nende draama selline ... ja siis naine selle lauluga omakorda kuulsaks sai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONcCGOabyyg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONcCGOabyyg
2 December 2015 23:14
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
On
2 December 2015 23:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Please, do not shoot yourself
2 December 2015 23:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thea Inno nu eks näljane laulab ikka leiavast kuid lisaks töö ja vajalikus koos, plaanis kunagi rikkaks saades KÕIK need lehed ära osta ja siis...
2 December 2015 23:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja need kes nii ei väljanda ennast, on nende meeste arvates rikkis, in denial või siis valetavad
2 December 2015 23:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thea Inno aga asi selles, et suur SUUR hulk mehi ongi uskuma pandud, Naiste endi (ja veel teatud Olendite poolt) et nii ongi, kuid vel palju palju hullem
Peaksid vaatama kuidas Voodi foorumis "kaupu" jagatakse ja võrreldakse
Peaksid vaatama kuidas Voodi foorumis "kaupu" jagatakse ja võrreldakse
2 December 2015 23:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
NU ma suht olengi
Armastuse (miinimum) standard
Armastuse (miinimum) standard
2 December 2015 22:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thea Inno et mis sa selle lause all mõtlesid: "samas on see huvitav,et mees kes kuulutas,pidas ennast normaalseks ju...mida naisel mujalt peaks otsida olema?"
ma ka plont vahest, tihti, vahesttihti, vahest harva
ma ka plont vahest, tihti, vahesttihti, vahest harva
2 December 2015 22:54
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(piparkoogimees, selverist, või sokolaadipoiss? What is Your coiche?)
2 December 2015 22:53
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Rääkides seksist , siis Sul on endiselt see homo mees taustapildiks,
come and taste Dha Real Man better girl!
come and taste Dha Real Man better girl!
2 December 2015 22:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thea Inno sure sure
2 December 2015 22:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Thea Inno mis mõttes?
2 December 2015 22:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(K) (L)
2 December 2015 22:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kle Sa oled päris lahe tsikk, et Suga siiani, siiamaani sellises valdkonnas oleme saanud rahulikult vestelda, kohe näha, et Spektori kuulaja :p
2 December 2015 22:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mees seeaeg kui naine tööd rabab, proovib selgitada vast Naisele, et ole parem kodus, kokka kooke ja ole kenas kleidis valmis, pikniku jaoks... :p
aga ei.. naine suure tõenäosusega mingi teise mehega, meestega veedab aega (lihtsalt töiselt..)
aga ei.. naine suure tõenäosusega mingi teise mehega, meestega veedab aega (lihtsalt töiselt..)
2 December 2015 22:46
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
vb peaks tema ja selle eelmainitud mehe omavahel kokku viima..
2 December 2015 22:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
2 December 2015 22:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
2 December 2015 22:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
ja need on kõigest (mõned) tänased kuulutused
2 December 2015 22:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
2 December 2015 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
2 December 2015 22:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
2 December 2015 22:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kuid jah... Sa siis arvasid, et see mehe kuulutus on paha või? Ehk ta seda oma naisega arutanud... ja mitte kaevurist kuid karjäärile pühendunud naine soovib aega veeta rohkem oma tööga ehk ? ... see mida mees pakub ja soovib tundub ju see mis peaks olema enamuste naiste unistus... või mis... ja kui nüüd võrrelda naiste kuulutusi...
2 December 2015 22:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tegelikult ma kuulan Regina Spektori albumeid praegu... : )
2 December 2015 22:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
mul alti meeldib asju vürtsitada muusikaga, mida mul on pea igaks juhuks varukast võtta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBapzDRAijk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBapzDRAijk
2 December 2015 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ma kõike nalju mõtlen tõsiselt
2 December 2015 22:24
Margus Meigo commented on Hank's photo.
xD
2 December 2015 22:22
Margus Meigo commented on Hank's post.
..man how much weed one can get for 250 000... we should look in to that... take money from these poor ones who would just drink it away... invest it in to a weed and then ... making successful business out of weed to share it back to poor so they would quit drinking and would start to give you more $
2 December 2015 22:21
Margus Meigo commented on Hank's post.
honesty is great virtua
2 December 2015 22:20
Margus Meigo commented on Hank's post.
Actually when these people up there, would smoke more, there would be less riots... and more direct action of making things better. Riots rarely fix anything
2 December 2015 22:19
Margus Meigo commented on Zandra Arguelles's post.
every family is perfect for what it is for us
2 December 2015 02:59
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's photo.
eks ikke ise peab ka paluma ja Tegema
2 December 2015 02:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
They had Global gossip networks and false flag small attack all around the world, to stay invisible and to keep moving people thoughts.. step by step... besides the radiowaves tec they was tring to activate on us many times
HAARP was kind of counter action on it..
HAARP was kind of counter action on it..
1 December 2015 22:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(not the Vodga kind of spirit) ... people who have not investigated the deepness, of evil of spirits that was behind soviet and is STILL running the world under Pentagram.... (all the five stars you see from money to army.. this is .. the Star People.. .. not humans.. not feelings... a bit like Battle-star Galactic scenario)
they had world largest and longest running ANTI-NATURE programs, literally. Even slogans was up to 90s still "We suppress and surrender the Nature under our, machines will" and the thinking is stil lthe same, under nature is also the Women...
and Hebrew culture is what they are against up to as well, as Hebrews, Jews originally are Matriarchy..
they had world largest and longest running ANTI-NATURE programs, literally. Even slogans was up to 90s still "We suppress and surrender the Nature under our, machines will" and the thinking is stil lthe same, under nature is also the Women...
and Hebrew culture is what they are against up to as well, as Hebrews, Jews originally are Matriarchy..
1 December 2015 22:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
no facts on it, just this is how we feel and see, based on Spirit
1 December 2015 22:33
Margus Meigo commented on Elijah Solomon Olig's post.
It would be REALLY strange, if that is not a Communists who are behind these plots, they started to tune their heads strongly around Africas on 70s.. to have new generation with similar western thinking minus the morals of Christianity + a bit of Voo doo and hatred against supresser whites,
1 December 2015 22:33
Margus Meigo commented on Elijah Solomon Olig's photo.
for a moment it remind me a Katy Perry video, with burning bed,
what is the symbolism in here?
what is the symbolism in here?
1 December 2015 22:29
Margus Meigo commented on Elijah Solomon Olig's post.
She just needs right kind of husband, to make true feast of these cooking's:
" Semen is not only nutritious, but it also has a wonderful texture and amazing cooking properties. Like fine wine and cheeses, the taste of semen is complex and dynamic. Semen is inexpensive to produce and is commonly available in many, if not most, homes and restaurants. Despite all of these positive qualities, semen remains neglected as a food.
This book hopes to change that.
Once you overcome any initial hesitation, you will be surprised to learn how wonderful semen is in the kitchen. Semen is an exciting ingredient that can give every dish you make an interesting twist. If you are a passionate cook and are not afraid to experiment with new ingredients - you will love this cook book! "
http://www.lulu.com/shop/fotie-photenhauer/natural-harvest-a-collection-of-semen-based-recipes/paperback/product-20052760.html
And while at it they can do some art...
Man : http://www.thelocal.de/20081223/16325
or open up some beauty business..
http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/56941/
And there is no depression coming because.. https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2457-semen-acts-as-an-anti-depressant/
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/an-ode-to-the-many-evolved-virtues-of-human-semen/
" Semen is not only nutritious, but it also has a wonderful texture and amazing cooking properties. Like fine wine and cheeses, the taste of semen is complex and dynamic. Semen is inexpensive to produce and is commonly available in many, if not most, homes and restaurants. Despite all of these positive qualities, semen remains neglected as a food.
This book hopes to change that.
Once you overcome any initial hesitation, you will be surprised to learn how wonderful semen is in the kitchen. Semen is an exciting ingredient that can give every dish you make an interesting twist. If you are a passionate cook and are not afraid to experiment with new ingredients - you will love this cook book! "
http://www.lulu.com/shop/fotie-photenhauer/natural-harvest-a-collection-of-semen-based-recipes/paperback/product-20052760.html
And while at it they can do some art...
Man : http://www.thelocal.de/20081223/16325
or open up some beauty business..
http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/56941/
And there is no depression coming because.. https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2457-semen-acts-as-an-anti-depressant/
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/an-ode-to-the-many-evolved-virtues-of-human-semen/
http://www.lulu.com/shop/fotie-photenhauer/natural-harvest-a-collection-of-semen-based-recipes/paperback/product-20052760.html
1 December 2015 22:27
Margus Meigo replied to Lootus Maran's comment.
tore, siin ka mitte, see eest aga matriarhaatia on
1 December 2015 22:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kergelt jah
1 December 2015 22:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So did You "Like" Bills page jet by now ? :p
1 December 2015 21:12
Margus Meigo replied to James Wu's comment.
when its literal then its okey,
so this tits got balls.
so this tits got balls.
1 December 2015 19:36
Margus Meigo commented on Rita Kaljus's post.
parem on jah, pildi URL panna.. siis arvutisse.. ja siis mõnel op systeemil piisab kui pildi peal parem klõp.. või pildi programmist valik..
1 December 2015 18:30
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's photo.
The office haha.. great one ! . ))
1 December 2015 18:26
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
can you imagine to be in elevator and trying to get downstairs on that moment
it would be like "osh.. hurry hurry hur..... we there
it would be like "osh.. hurry hurry hur..... we there
1 December 2015 18:25
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's post.
and that You stay as one
1 December 2015 18:23
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's post.
You as couple are priceless
am clad iY was able to grow You in to a man : )
am clad iY was able to grow You in to a man : )
1 December 2015 18:23
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
thats why you need wooden houses,
1 December 2015 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek Saviir's post.
wonder what 2065 looks a like
1 December 2015 18:20
Margus Meigo replied to James Wu's comment.
hate when people use this world and forget that this is what it LITERALLY means
1 December 2015 18:18
Margus Meigo replied to James Wu's comment.
only if you Do, like to fuck mother
or at best case, mothers
or at best case, mothers
1 December 2015 18:17
Margus Meigo commented on Humberto Durán's photo.
nice colors
1 December 2015 18:16
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
n o no not me
1 December 2015 18:16
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek Saviir's post.
alati peab mingi hipi tulema alkoholi poste trollima :D
1 December 2015 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek Saviir's post.
Aitab jah kui muud pole võimalik.., aga noh.. tänapäeval on kõikidele ligipääs ja teadmised psühedeelikumide osas võimalikud... ja siis on hea aeg.. TÕSISELT praktiliselt hea aeg ,
alkohol tundub liialt teismeliste teema, kus kaks päeva hiljem kõik on ringiga tagasi seal kus alustasid + palju puhastamist :p
Kuid sõnad on kuldsed ja head, sellegipoolest, vanamees ise ka legendaarne
alkohol tundub liialt teismeliste teema, kus kaks päeva hiljem kõik on ringiga tagasi seal kus alustasid + palju puhastamist :p
Kuid sõnad on kuldsed ja head, sellegipoolest, vanamees ise ka legendaarne
1 December 2015 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
"what you mean You SAVEd someone? Its Your JOB! "
"I am accountant "
"I am accountant "
1 December 2015 18:11
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
MD life
1 December 2015 18:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See hetk kus aru on "mp3 mesi" ka selles kaustas.. kuni elektrit on : )
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/p0dbn4qb1nqhine/AACmZdF7sImNxZ20yCswpBs6a?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/p0dbn4qb1nqhine/AACmZdF7sImNxZ20yCswpBs6a?dl=0
1 December 2015 13:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See mis me tegelikult jagada mõistsime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOfyPhY2c8U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOfyPhY2c8U
1 December 2015 13:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
KOmments: https://web.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/posts/10207119669286847?comment_id=10207123725348246¬if_t=feed_comment&ref=notif
1 December 2015 05:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnYB1m0PIIo geek thug life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnYB1m0PIIo geek thug life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnYB1m0PIIo
1 December 2015 04:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and before bringing up logical fallacy problem look what You say.. you say because they are rich, and rich people finance accounts are related to some other rich people accounts who are involved with bad, then that makes them bad as well because they did not go open war publicly against ruthless non earthly backed up structures and beings ?
Try to be on that level, and stay alive.
Try to be on that level, and stay alive.
1 December 2015 04:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Can You name ANY famous people, who are BETTER then them?
I just try to pin point Your point of world view here, again, Katy Perry is better then them but She does not count as well, as She is women... so be not in worry, try to come up with some names. Merkel also is a poor girl compared to importance She does, but i named her anyway..
So some man.... Ahmadinejad, some Abu s from The Arab League? Or... who do You admire, who can and have power and resources You think that can make best , biggest, better change in a world ?
I just try to pin point Your point of world view here, again, Katy Perry is better then them but She does not count as well, as She is women... so be not in worry, try to come up with some names. Merkel also is a poor girl compared to importance She does, but i named her anyway..
So some man.... Ahmadinejad, some Abu s from The Arab League? Or... who do You admire, who can and have power and resources You think that can make best , biggest, better change in a world ?
1 December 2015 04:34
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
once You are able to provide ANY kind of list, of people who are Supper rich and Better and more beneficial FOR YOU then these two.. once you do that, then based on that list we can see, if there is any-kind of knowledge behind Your words or just internet talking, ON communist greek-roman beliefless fuel.
1 December 2015 04:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Still, with all the respect my friend these are still empty communist common slogans, ANY names? besides Merkel, Liliane Bettencourt..., Queen s (of all country's, including Miriam Defensor Santiago who counts as Queen of Ph.
, (we might as well add here Sheryl Sandberg or Melinda Gates...) ... but it is easy to good when You woman as it comes with mission... but You know any powerful supper rich MAN who is good, better then Zuc and Gates, besides Marshal perhaps ?
, (we might as well add here Sheryl Sandberg or Melinda Gates...) ... but it is easy to good when You woman as it comes with mission... but You know any powerful supper rich MAN who is good, better then Zuc and Gates, besides Marshal perhaps ?
1 December 2015 03:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
they are good, ill not bother to go in to that right now
so can you give me, as large list as you can, with people who have more then billion in cash and who are better then gates and zuc, in products and looks and as person and potential
so can you give me, as large list as you can, with people who have more then billion in cash and who are better then gates and zuc, in products and looks and as person and potential
1 December 2015 03:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1 December 2015 02:57
Margus Meigo replied to Elijah Solomon Olig's comment.
No, i did not realize that, how, based on what did You come to that conclusion ?
(compared with other people who have more then one billion in cash and what they have done for human species and what you do, starting from explosives industry or bio weapons or.. )
(compared with other people who have more then one billion in cash and what they have done for human species and what you do, starting from explosives industry or bio weapons or.. )
1 December 2015 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1 December 2015 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Küsimus "Kui" ?
Vastus: VÄGA!
Vastus: VÄGA!
30 November 2015 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Omg
30 November 2015 21:07
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Eks igaühele oma fetish :p
30 November 2015 21:03
Margus Meigo commented on Tiit Figol's photo.
Sa ka veel elus, väga hea!
30 November 2015 21:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
a bit expensive thought for ordinary ppl... for some time
30 November 2015 16:38
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
and someone should find a way to add bitcoin and all that also on to it.. http://gazettereview.com/2015/08/coin-vs-plastc-vs-swyp-vs-stratos-best-digital-credit-card-showdown/ or wait.. they have already?
30 November 2015 16:37
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
You also MUST open up a fond, experience lab, experimental funded lab for low budget research to allow ALL other alternative energy innovations once and for final way produce few accepted prototypes of all this free energy things that are around the internet, from water engine to ... (to quit the spread of "some one try to suppress.." story ) ... from all the near cheap prototypes to...
..to Wilhelm Reich cloudbuster, why not ? if we not afraid. Before the stones hit us we gotta find trust, to make final co operational leap in to helping our future partners (there is no competition in real world..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRHA9W-zExQ
You can call me over, sms first, + 372 522 90 41
for alternative side project adviser, please
..to Wilhelm Reich cloudbuster, why not ? if we not afraid. Before the stones hit us we gotta find trust, to make final co operational leap in to helping our future partners (there is no competition in real world..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRHA9W-zExQ
You can call me over, sms first, + 372 522 90 41
for alternative side project adviser, please
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRHA9W-zExQ
30 November 2015 16:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
30 November 2015 06:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.google.ee/search?q=%22margus+meigo%22+OR+%22waffa+margus%22+OR+waffad&num=100&biw=1018&bih=687&ei=7MxbVvjzMIG3sgGEzaf4Dg&start=100&sa=N&filter=0
https://www.google.ee/search?q=%22margus+meigo%22+OR+%22waffa+margus%22+OR+waffad&num=100&biw=1018&bih=687&ei=7MxbVvjzMIG3sgGEzaf4Dg&start=100&sa=N&filter=0
30 November 2015 06:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
natuke näpides kadus ära: https://www.google.ee/search?q=%22margus+meigo%22&num=100&biw=1018&bih=687&ei=TMtbVuveF-fkyAPO8bPQBg&start=400&sa=N&filter=0
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30 November 2015 06:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
30 November 2015 06:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
/note to self: related in paralel, to the story and setting of last post pictures in urban house
30 November 2015 04:11
Margus Meigo replied to John Harrison's comment.
why would anyone..
30 November 2015 04:09
Margus Meigo replied to John Harrison's comment.
yeah, i also newer got the "drop out" part
30 November 2015 04:09
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Forte's post.
fast thinker
30 November 2015 04:08
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Forte's post.
nice nice!
30 November 2015 04:04
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Talking about crazy and wonderful friends :
30 November 2015 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek Saviir's photo.
hagar hirmus
NU habe, vunts ikka ees, siis reaalne teema!
NU habe, vunts ikka ees, siis reaalne teema!
30 November 2015 00:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
hmm
29 November 2015 07:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga Zoo-Tehnik Sassi? :p
29 November 2015 03:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Kuid kõik laulud jah, pole pääsnud trükki, kuid päris palju on valmis ka
29 November 2015 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
29 November 2015 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
29 November 2015 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
29 November 2015 01:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
in most part
29 November 2015 01:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So this is me, also a bit
29 November 2015 01:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(my playlist now, on one, with last post, while doing, business...innovations)
This song, can be also, sing to Society about their offers... how they jack u off, but nothing can be more then that what is better
This song, can be also, sing to Society about their offers... how they jack u off, but nothing can be more then that what is better
29 November 2015 01:48
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
29 November 2015 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Mis sääl toimus?
29 November 2015 01:21
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Mu tava konto eip luba lisada inimesi... lisasin Su mu kontoalt, hea kontonimi : )
29 November 2015 01:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja samal ajal, räägitakse veel seda ka, mis poolikult undub ka tõene olema, kui see ainuke tõde mida teame, aint maistes piirides: https://www.facebook.com/alightman/posts/10153244345056526?ref=notif¬if_t=notify_me
Alex Lightman siis poel ka päris tavalne neti komentaator, ta suure haardega üle mitme lehe ja inimeste meelte liigutaja, kuid eelkõige fokuseerida siis
Sellele:
"After reading it, you'll see very clearly that
1. the Syrian conflict really is all about gas pipelines to Europe via Turkey, to replace the 80% gas supplied to Europe by Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia " JA kes ja kuidas seda siis takistada soovib ja miks,
Ja mis moodi see kaasa aitab, mis praegu on...
Ring segadus tekib vahest, kui kõike arvesse võttA mis kirjas, aga muud elu, ei maa välist ega sisest, ei soovita arvestada...
Pealegi, taimedele ongi hea, kui me selle jama ära põletame, et neil oleks toitu ja jaksu meid edasi aidata ja kasvatada..
Alex Lightman siis poel ka päris tavalne neti komentaator, ta suure haardega üle mitme lehe ja inimeste meelte liigutaja, kuid eelkõige fokuseerida siis
Sellele:
"After reading it, you'll see very clearly that
1. the Syrian conflict really is all about gas pipelines to Europe via Turkey, to replace the 80% gas supplied to Europe by Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia " JA kes ja kuidas seda siis takistada soovib ja miks,
Ja mis moodi see kaasa aitab, mis praegu on...
Ring segadus tekib vahest, kui kõike arvesse võttA mis kirjas, aga muud elu, ei maa välist ega sisest, ei soovita arvestada...
Pealegi, taimedele ongi hea, kui me selle jama ära põletame, et neil oleks toitu ja jaksu meid edasi aidata ja kasvatada..
29 November 2015 01:05
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ahjaa, juttu oli siis ühe hosteli noorest pikkade juustega punapeasest tüdrukust, lihtsalt märkeks
29 November 2015 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui te soovite rahulikult hingata, siis ma soovitaks tõsiselt teil koguda tatart, ja muid aineid mis seisavad kaua ja mis kasulikud,
Ja hoitke neid varudena endal, eraldi ruumis, kui paar aastat vanad juba siis jagage järgepanu vaestele välja ja varuge endale ...
siis rahus teate, et saate olla, mida iganes homne ka ei tooks seni kuni toidukelder alles on.
St, neile siis soovitus, kes pannikatoas on.
Lisaks aitab kasuliku toidu suunas fokuseerimine, tekitada muid vajalike mõtteid mida ühtlasesse Eesti teadvusesse juurde vaja,
et kuidas vajalike asja kasvatamist ja tegemist, me "Kultuuris" säilitada, inimsoo keskel, olenemata elektronilistest saavutustest, mis elektri kadumisel olematuks muutuvad kui mehaanika paigas pole korralikult, kindlalt
Päris põlvini ei tule teid keegi, ei vaevu suruma, kui siis ots peale juba, välja keerates need geenid. Surumised ja kannatamised ja testimised, väärtused ja väärtustaise testid ja kannatused te vanemate vanemad juba pikalt taha ulatuvalt on ära tõestanud, te õneks.
Teil kergem ... ja lõplikum otsus, kas oskate väärtustada seda mis hoidis elus ja mida vaja .. või unustate, ja lasete ennast ka unustada
Ja hoitke neid varudena endal, eraldi ruumis, kui paar aastat vanad juba siis jagage järgepanu vaestele välja ja varuge endale ...
siis rahus teate, et saate olla, mida iganes homne ka ei tooks seni kuni toidukelder alles on.
St, neile siis soovitus, kes pannikatoas on.
Lisaks aitab kasuliku toidu suunas fokuseerimine, tekitada muid vajalike mõtteid mida ühtlasesse Eesti teadvusesse juurde vaja,
et kuidas vajalike asja kasvatamist ja tegemist, me "Kultuuris" säilitada, inimsoo keskel, olenemata elektronilistest saavutustest, mis elektri kadumisel olematuks muutuvad kui mehaanika paigas pole korralikult, kindlalt
Päris põlvini ei tule teid keegi, ei vaevu suruma, kui siis ots peale juba, välja keerates need geenid. Surumised ja kannatamised ja testimised, väärtused ja väärtustaise testid ja kannatused te vanemate vanemad juba pikalt taha ulatuvalt on ära tõestanud, te õneks.
Teil kergem ... ja lõplikum otsus, kas oskate väärtustada seda mis hoidis elus ja mida vaja .. või unustate, ja lasete ennast ka unustada
29 November 2015 01:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See on lihata söögilaud, mida see Rooma võimualt vabaneda soovinud rahva poolrelgioone paganlik üllitis soovis, saamaks Looja ja Loodusega koostöös rahule.. aga ei... liha ja vere, alkoholi ja ainete, dileeriumi sõltlased... ei lasknud sellel juhtuda.. ja ülejäänud ei julgenud sekkuda, selle mitmetuhandeaastase globaalse impeeriumi vastu... vaadates pealt, kuidas üksikut õiglast libekeelselt piirati... Jah jaapan.. sest ka nemad, olid ju Looduse poolsed..
ja veider eks, need kes mehaanilised pidid olema folkloori järgi, et just nende kaudu see Looduse revulutsioon prooviti sünnitada.. ja irooniline, et just nüüd see jaapan.. ise toodab beid robotnaisi, millest Saksa hoiatas..
metropolis
ja veider eks, need kes mehaanilised pidid olema folkloori järgi, et just nende kaudu see Looduse revulutsioon prooviti sünnitada.. ja irooniline, et just nüüd see jaapan.. ise toodab beid robotnaisi, millest Saksa hoiatas..
metropolis
29 November 2015 00:49
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's post.
Nüüd aint psyhdeelikume ning patju, tekke, ganjat vaja ja siis kõik olemas, Naine-d ka vast
29 November 2015 00:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
mis siin ikka kurb, kiiduväärt.
Näitab nende suursugust ja laia mõtlemist, ning praktilisust.
KUi saad tapetavad ise endale tööle võtta, et nad enda tapmise tarvis Sulle häid mõteid ja relvi teha aitavad.. siis tuleb vähem üleolev olla, out of the box mõelda ja abi oma lambukestelt vastu võtta
inimesed ise aga isekad, isegi oma päästmiseks, oma vastastelt ei soovi me vahest abi vastu võtta, kui saame aru kust mida tuleb... siis kohe üleolevus on "Määri pähe endale.." ...aga alko ja suitsu firma asjad võetakse ikka, masside poolt vastu, ka nende poolt, kes ei mõtle, asjade paremaks tegemisele.. ainult virisemisele...
Näitab nende suursugust ja laia mõtlemist, ning praktilisust.
KUi saad tapetavad ise endale tööle võtta, et nad enda tapmise tarvis Sulle häid mõteid ja relvi teha aitavad.. siis tuleb vähem üleolev olla, out of the box mõelda ja abi oma lambukestelt vastu võtta
inimesed ise aga isekad, isegi oma päästmiseks, oma vastastelt ei soovi me vahest abi vastu võtta, kui saame aru kust mida tuleb... siis kohe üleolevus on "Määri pähe endale.." ...aga alko ja suitsu firma asjad võetakse ikka, masside poolt vastu, ka nende poolt, kes ei mõtle, asjade paremaks tegemisele.. ainult virisemisele...
28 November 2015 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Uustal's post.
Nii nad teevad
28 November 2015 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Uustal's post.
ma ei kujuta ette, mis seal all on (50 meetrit kukkumist?) ja kuidas sellest kohast ise üksi välja saada.... hmmm
28 November 2015 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Uustal's post.
Käega regullis linti paika vahepeal, wau, selline asi oleks niii keelatud standardite poolt praegu, et anna olla :D
28 November 2015 22:56
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Uustal's post.
NIce one! Päris wau kui lihtsalt profid teha oskavad asju mida tava pea ise välja vaevalt kiirelt mõtleks
28 November 2015 22:54
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Uustal's post.
:D
Stoners
Stoners
28 November 2015 22:53
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Uustal's post.
lisaks ei tormanud nad ringi nagu chaplini filmides :p
peace on him
peace on him
28 November 2015 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Uustal's post.
Kuldaväärt kaadrid ilusatest majadest ja kõigest
28 November 2015 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Uustal's post.
muusika on ka ilus
28 November 2015 22:50
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Uustal's post.
Vot see on alles pilt!
Ja mitte VÕIVAD ainult, sest on Jumala poolt lubatud ja Tehtud SELLEKS ka... et arusaades kaob deprekas ära väikeste asjade osas ja asjade osas mida me kohe, valesti, kiiresti muuta ei saa veel... vaid Kindlapeale muudab, kui õigesti tarvitada
Muidugi telegram oma imago selliseks teinud, et mine tea, kas nende kanalist see välja enam tuleb õigesti aga..
Ja mitte VÕIVAD ainult, sest on Jumala poolt lubatud ja Tehtud SELLEKS ka... et arusaades kaob deprekas ära väikeste asjade osas ja asjade osas mida me kohe, valesti, kiiresti muuta ei saa veel... vaid Kindlapeale muudab, kui õigesti tarvitada
Muidugi telegram oma imago selliseks teinud, et mine tea, kas nende kanalist see välja enam tuleb õigesti aga..
28 November 2015 22:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Viimasel aastal lisati 1 Minutiline lobisemise piirang juurde telefonile. Kuid siiani, ma julgelt üle minuti rääkinud ja mingit kiirustamist pole olnud..
http://tarbija24.postimees.ee/2933037/lugeja-kusib-miks-voib-infoliini-kone-kesta-vaid-minuti
http://www.fcrmedia.ee/teenused/infomeedia/1182-ee-infotelefon-ja-infokataloog
http://tarbija24.postimees.ee/2933037/lugeja-kusib-miks-voib-infoliini-kone-kesta-vaid-minuti
http://www.fcrmedia.ee/teenused/infomeedia/1182-ee-infotelefon-ja-infokataloog
28 November 2015 21:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Viimasel aastal lisati 1 Minutiline lobisemise piirang juurde telefonile. Kuid siiani, ma julgelt üle minuti rääkinud ja mingit kiirustamist pole olnud..
http://w3.ee/openarticle.php?id=1983000&lang=est
http://w3.ee/openarticle.php?id=1983000&lang=est
http://w3.ee/openarticle.php?id=1983000&lang=est
28 November 2015 21:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eesti Infokeskus OÜ
Tel: 1181 (infotelefon 24h)
e-mail: eesti@infokeskus.ee
koduleht: http://www.1181.ee/category/86/Infotelefonid
Infotelefonid 626 1111 ja 1181 Eestis - vastab küsimustele 24h.
Nt: Kütusehinnad Eesti tanklates
Metalli 3, Kristiine linnaosa, Tallinn, Harju maakond 10615
Tel: 1181 (infotelefon 24h)
e-mail: eesti@infokeskus.ee
koduleht: http://www.1181.ee/category/86/Infotelefonid
Infotelefonid 626 1111 ja 1181 Eestis - vastab küsimustele 24h.
Nt: Kütusehinnad Eesti tanklates
Metalli 3, Kristiine linnaosa, Tallinn, Harju maakond 10615
http://www.1181.ee/category/86/Infotelefonid
28 November 2015 21:24
Margus Meigo replied to Kert Pallo's comment.
Ja mittemateriaalse inimesena eriti veel mõistan, et kui kallid inimesed või olulised, ilusad või head asjad on sõltuvuses infost, siis kindla peale ei tasu koonerdada
....eriti kui oleks suitsetaja või alkoholi tarbija, siis pole mingit vabandust armastuse kõrvalt koonerdada, sest raha saadad iga kuu põletusauku firmadele, kes SINU elu vastu toimetavad, sõna otseses mõttes. Kõrgeimas plaanis, otseselt need asjad loodud, MITTE Sinu kõige vajalikuma heaolu aitamise osas.
....eriti kui oleks suitsetaja või alkoholi tarbija, siis pole mingit vabandust armastuse kõrvalt koonerdada, sest raha saadad iga kuu põletusauku firmadele, kes SINU elu vastu toimetavad, sõna otseses mõttes. Kõrgeimas plaanis, otseselt need asjad loodud, MITTE Sinu kõige vajalikuma heaolu aitamise osas.
28 November 2015 21:10
Margus Meigo replied to Kert Pallo's comment.
Nu jah, mina kõiketeadjana võin öelda, et kui inimesed oleks vaevunud 1188 t kasutama selleks, et küsida TSUTA infoliini numbrit, või isegi linnavalitsus oleks jaganud seda 626 1111 numbrit ku ivaid küsida... siis oleks suur hulk raha säästetud ja paljude inimeste elu paremal järjel, sellekõige pärast mida nad koonerdamise pärast küsida ei julgenud tasulisest liinist ja siis sattusid interneti keeristesse või jätsid hoopis minematta.
Kui palju neid selgemõistuslike, enda üle kontrollis inimesi ikka on, kes hjäirimatult suudaks netis ainult ühe asja ära teha, ilma, et mõtted muude asjadega risustatud ei saaks
Kui palju neid selgemõistuslike, enda üle kontrollis inimesi ikka on, kes hjäirimatult suudaks netis ainult ühe asja ära teha, ilma, et mõtted muude asjadega risustatud ei saaks
28 November 2015 21:08
Margus Meigo replied to Kert Pallo's comment.
Ega, eesti,.. ongi ju.. ET ,,
28 November 2015 21:03
Margus Meigo replied to Kert Pallo's comment.
Just, sellepärast ma räägingi, et VIIIIIIMANE tasuta infoliin, mis ametlikult igal lainel toimetab, pannakse kinni.
Sest rahvale meeldib kasutada tasulisi liine
See oli IQ test tulnukate poolt inimestele, ja tulemus oli: enamus arvas, et maksame parem
Sest rahvale meeldib kasutada tasulisi liine
See oli IQ test tulnukate poolt inimestele, ja tulemus oli: enamus arvas, et maksame parem
28 November 2015 21:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid kui hind on tõusmas, ja nõue on pea 20% aastats tõusnud.. siis kuidas ei saa jätkuda raha töölistele maksmiseks.. lausa uusi kasvandusi peaks avama ju, topelt palgaga
28 November 2015 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The company, which operates 52 chocolate factories across the world including one in Banbury, Oxfordshire, has warned for some time that consumers are facing a chocolate crisis unless production can be increased to meet growing demand.
Not everyone agrees. Laurent Pipitone, director of economics at the International Cocoa Organisation, says the deficit is likely to be closer to 100,000 tonnes. Still, the price of cocoa beans has increased by almost two-thirds since 2012 to hit £2,000 per tonne in August. This year’s price hike was one of the sharpest since a commodity trader nicknamed “Chocfinger” bought up 7% of the world’s cocoa beans – valued at £658m – in 2010"
“Unfortunately my kids have got addicted to it. I try to monitor it though.” I had stopped her in the neighbouring aisle, where she was looking at the chocolate advent calendars, thought to have been first mass-produced in the 1950s. She gave me a look of mock shame: “I don’t think I’m going to be buying one now.”
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/nov/21/cocoa-crisis-world-chocolate-stash-melting-away
(mitte sassi ajada aprill fools naljaga http://mashable.com/2015/03/31/global-cocoa-crisis/ ... sesttõepoolest, coco farme suleti meelega eelmine aasta... kuidas seda mainiti ütlemast.. ja kohalikele anti põhjenduseks aafriaks, et neile ei old raha, et maksta töö eest... kes niigi, pool tasuta töötasid )
Not everyone agrees. Laurent Pipitone, director of economics at the International Cocoa Organisation, says the deficit is likely to be closer to 100,000 tonnes. Still, the price of cocoa beans has increased by almost two-thirds since 2012 to hit £2,000 per tonne in August. This year’s price hike was one of the sharpest since a commodity trader nicknamed “Chocfinger” bought up 7% of the world’s cocoa beans – valued at £658m – in 2010"
“Unfortunately my kids have got addicted to it. I try to monitor it though.” I had stopped her in the neighbouring aisle, where she was looking at the chocolate advent calendars, thought to have been first mass-produced in the 1950s. She gave me a look of mock shame: “I don’t think I’m going to be buying one now.”
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/nov/21/cocoa-crisis-world-chocolate-stash-melting-away
(mitte sassi ajada aprill fools naljaga http://mashable.com/2015/03/31/global-cocoa-crisis/ ... sesttõepoolest, coco farme suleti meelega eelmine aasta... kuidas seda mainiti ütlemast.. ja kohalikele anti põhjenduseks aafriaks, et neile ei old raha, et maksta töö eest... kes niigi, pool tasuta töötasid )
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/nov/21/cocoa-crisis-world-chocolate-stash-melting-away
28 November 2015 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Väheks jäi, panin juurde veel korralikult, roosuhkrut ja...
Kuid jah, ega varsti enam kakaoga prassida ei saa, juba eelmine aasta otsustati Kakao kriisi ettevalmistamiseks suured liigutamised ära.
Nagu istanduste kinni panemine ja hinna planeeritud ülesse tõstmine järgnevatel aastatel.
Meilgi, poole kilosed pakid on 150 grammiste pakkide vastu poes vahetunud...
Muudel maadel tava poodides nii lihtsas müügis puhast akakaopulbrit pole nähagi, nagu meil, ikka need valgesuhkrusegud on enamasti...
Kuid jah, ega varsti enam kakaoga prassida ei saa, juba eelmine aasta otsustati Kakao kriisi ettevalmistamiseks suured liigutamised ära.
Nagu istanduste kinni panemine ja hinna planeeritud ülesse tõstmine järgnevatel aastatel.
Meilgi, poole kilosed pakid on 150 grammiste pakkide vastu poes vahetunud...
Muudel maadel tava poodides nii lihtsas müügis puhast akakaopulbrit pole nähagi, nagu meil, ikka need valgesuhkrusegud on enamasti...
28 November 2015 20:39
Margus Meigo replied to Eelika Külmallik's comment.
"üks vahval 50 senti, euroga saad kolm"
ja siis kolme-neljakesi olla kskil strateegilise kohapeal, "Pühade Soojad Vahvlid"
ja siis kolme-neljakesi olla kskil strateegilise kohapeal, "Pühade Soojad Vahvlid"
28 November 2015 20:03
Margus Meigo replied to Eelika Külmallik's comment.
ma saan viieka klappita alustuseks :D
28 November 2015 19:59
Margus Meigo replied to Eelika Külmallik's comment.
jeey kuule , aga teeme uuesti seda, ajame vene aegsed aparaadid kokku vms, ja teeme hunniku vahfleid, ja hunniku pappi ka, ja siis ostame MDMAd ja oleme meeldivas õhtus, püherdame (intelektuaalselt) vahvlite ja piiride olematuse vahel
28 November 2015 19:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
jkes jes jes jes jes jes jesss!
28 November 2015 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on Aiki Obermann's photo.
ma elan uuesti oma kallis Kadaka 88 majas, tule nostalgitse mu tuleaseme ligi sellekõige hea ja ilusaga
28 November 2015 19:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja ongi nali rikutud
28 November 2015 19:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
... ja siis helistaja läks tuimalt stonerite korterisse sisse, ütles et "politsei ütles mulle, et võin teilt selle julgelt ära võtta" ning pani kogu laual oleva ganja taskusse ning kõndis uksest välja.
28 November 2015 19:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
pealegi, inimesed kes on info otsimise alal profid, leiavad kiiremini info üles kui enda otsimisel tihtipeale,
lisaks mis saab mugavam olla kui ühe käega vajutada "helista" oma mitte nuti telefonis ja siis meeldiv neiu mõnede sekunditega ütleb Sulle mida vaja, isegi kui kuskil viru nurgal oled,
Jättes Sulle võimaluse keskonnale tähelepanu pöörata samal ajal
lisaks mis saab mugavam olla kui ühe käega vajutada "helista" oma mitte nuti telefonis ja siis meeldiv neiu mõnede sekunditega ütleb Sulle mida vaja, isegi kui kuskil viru nurgal oled,
Jättes Sulle võimaluse keskonnale tähelepanu pöörata samal ajal
28 November 2015 19:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Google on selleks tarbeks kui Sul meeldib inimeste asemel arvutitega suhelda
28 November 2015 19:10
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's photo.
seems like i picked wrong day for running out of weed (Airplane 1983)
27 November 2015 16:39
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's photo.
and by religion i mean, whatever locals believe and look that from Christian ideal point of view... and only eliminate these who do not want to debate on public view against proofs intell had, aka ho are proper criminals
okey today is not my best day perhaps, for explaining this,
okey today is not my best day perhaps, for explaining this,
27 November 2015 16:38
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's photo.
thats the problem.. under control...
but we SHOULD have mooved in to this situation ONLY by RELGION... and Natural Law..
but we SHOULD have mooved in to this situation ONLY by RELGION... and Natural Law..
27 November 2015 16:37
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Ojuland's photo.
Lauluaeg ikka võetakse omade seas nägu paljaks,
mul siin vana moslemi tüdrukust tuttav, kes päris karmist perest, ja tema pildid nii depresiivsed kyll välja ei näe: https://web.facebook.com/natascha.sarip (kui need väljaspool ta sobralisti näha on.. pole kindel)
Mäletna kui kunagi rääkisin mastrubatsioonist talle, ja to aeg tema ringkonnas oli teadmine, et seda võib ainult siis teha kui oled abielus
mul siin vana moslemi tüdrukust tuttav, kes päris karmist perest, ja tema pildid nii depresiivsed kyll välja ei näe: https://web.facebook.com/natascha.sarip (kui need väljaspool ta sobralisti näha on.. pole kindel)
Mäletna kui kunagi rääkisin mastrubatsioonist talle, ja to aeg tema ringkonnas oli teadmine, et seda võib ainult siis teha kui oled abielus
27 November 2015 16:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
v.a. vere osa
(see jesuse verega õnnistmaise osa on endiselt mu arust viga, mida tegema ei peaks)
(see jesuse verega õnnistmaise osa on endiselt mu arust viga, mida tegema ei peaks)
27 November 2015 03:15
Margus Meigo replied to Maarja Hiiekivi's comment.
Ega siin maal ka, kõiki valgeid ei saa nii nimetada, või kui ammu see oligi kui töö hübriidid segunesid vanema loominguga..
26 November 2015 21:22
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
in general :D
26 November 2015 21:11
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Wilkins's post.
still good ya did it, am sure it looked much more cooler then it sounds on their paper
26 November 2015 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Wilkins's post.
hahaha yeah but ya should have stay cool and just swallow front of them all the weed, so the outcome would have become even better, and less joke on ya by the " defender " Beverly Tomlinson and writer who try to make look like weed users get manic and childish and in paranoid delusions about media around them
26 November 2015 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on Philip Robinson's post.
does coppes masks count ?
26 November 2015 21:05
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
aaly sht, and the hat also, this pure blood gay
did not notice the hat at first,
did not notice the hat at first,
26 November 2015 21:01
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Looked like Estonian thing first, colors and cross.., but too gay, the shaved Superman part. at least
for mass production to gay
for mass production to gay
26 November 2015 21:00
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
as one hippy told, all hippies when they grow up and wanna keep their core views will become conservatives
26 November 2015 20:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
How arrrgh hard is to keep access to notes and things running, as side project?
Will keep it with my own resources if needed .. seriously... how can these ones just openly piece by piece destroy what opera attempted to build
Will keep it with my own resources if needed .. seriously... how can these ones just openly piece by piece destroy what opera attempted to build
26 November 2015 19:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ_z8MNApz4
https://dualcoremusic.bandcamp.com/track/unplug
https://dualcoremusic.bandcamp.com/track/unplug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ_z8MNApz4
25 November 2015 19:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(it's hard to grasp sometimes)
(that someone can tell you your life is about to be altered, and then everything changes)
(it's crazy, right?)
(this one goes out to everyone who's taken something unexpected, and turned it around)
(life's work)
the greatest minds of our time, begin a new flight
consider them as geniuses in their own right (that's right)
intelligent, innovative, running up the score
the best co-workers that anyone could ask for
walking with escorts, leaving the office
arms holding cardboard, their lives in those boxes
rewind a few hours they were pushing code to test
a few minutes back they were cleaning out their desks
tony was furious, and ripping out the fixtures
they pushed him out the door didn't let him get his pictures
nick was in shock, the news just hit him
eyes in a daze as he turned off his system
justin was calm 'cause he knew they'd find work
and this was the bottom so it wouldn't get worse
lets out a sigh, thoughts on his mind
as he logged himself out for the very last time
here we go, no telling what's next
life's up and down, never know what you'll get
be prepared when you're put to the test
gotta step up, you can stand above the rest
here we go, no telling what's next
life's up and down, never know what you'll get
never know what you'll get
gotta step up, then you stand above the rest
fast forward three months, life's no joy
both tony and justin are still unemployed
craigslist, linkedin, nothing there to offer
tired of the same old postings on monster
they'd had a few interviews, nothing that would fly
employers see their resumes and say they're overqualified
nick's got a job, but he's way underpaid
as a help desk tech for a help desk wage
at home every day, tony's writing code
cause exploits pay, and their debt still grows
"check this post", a high price quote
with a backdoor wanted for an app that they wrote
justin's unsure, nick moves ahead
'cause his boss just wrote him up for browsing the web
surprised to connect to the CVS box
it had been three months and they hadn't been blocked
still had to login, which ended up a task
trying all the usernames and passwords they had
maybe they forgot to go and change one or somethin'
all accounts locked out, except one of justin's
here we go, no telling what's next
life's up and down, never know what you'll get
be prepared when you're put to the test
gotta step up, you can stand above the rest
here we go, no telling what's next
life's up and down, never know what you'll get
never know what you'll get
gotta step up, then you stand above the rest
justin came around, he knew they could hack it
fired up a sniffer and they're capturing the packets
man in the middle, watching conversations
and came across the ceo's banking information
cronjob set for the end of next week
that would send all the money to a bank overseas
the funds would be secure in an account offshore
and there's no extradition laws signed by singapore
turning it around they were going there to stay
with their severance pay bought tickets one way
packed their whole lives into one bag each
cause if you go to jail that's all that you need
the whole flight dragged as they all felt nauseous
nervous, fatigued, can't sleep but exhausted
barely cleared customs, they all said thanks
hopped on the train went straight to the bank
just as expected they had the right amount
withdrew the balance and they closed the account
tried playing hardball my friends played tougher
and i'm flying out to see them for a visit this summer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfpY2bpEw4M
(that someone can tell you your life is about to be altered, and then everything changes)
(it's crazy, right?)
(this one goes out to everyone who's taken something unexpected, and turned it around)
(life's work)
the greatest minds of our time, begin a new flight
consider them as geniuses in their own right (that's right)
intelligent, innovative, running up the score
the best co-workers that anyone could ask for
walking with escorts, leaving the office
arms holding cardboard, their lives in those boxes
rewind a few hours they were pushing code to test
a few minutes back they were cleaning out their desks
tony was furious, and ripping out the fixtures
they pushed him out the door didn't let him get his pictures
nick was in shock, the news just hit him
eyes in a daze as he turned off his system
justin was calm 'cause he knew they'd find work
and this was the bottom so it wouldn't get worse
lets out a sigh, thoughts on his mind
as he logged himself out for the very last time
here we go, no telling what's next
life's up and down, never know what you'll get
be prepared when you're put to the test
gotta step up, you can stand above the rest
here we go, no telling what's next
life's up and down, never know what you'll get
never know what you'll get
gotta step up, then you stand above the rest
fast forward three months, life's no joy
both tony and justin are still unemployed
craigslist, linkedin, nothing there to offer
tired of the same old postings on monster
they'd had a few interviews, nothing that would fly
employers see their resumes and say they're overqualified
nick's got a job, but he's way underpaid
as a help desk tech for a help desk wage
at home every day, tony's writing code
cause exploits pay, and their debt still grows
"check this post", a high price quote
with a backdoor wanted for an app that they wrote
justin's unsure, nick moves ahead
'cause his boss just wrote him up for browsing the web
surprised to connect to the CVS box
it had been three months and they hadn't been blocked
still had to login, which ended up a task
trying all the usernames and passwords they had
maybe they forgot to go and change one or somethin'
all accounts locked out, except one of justin's
here we go, no telling what's next
life's up and down, never know what you'll get
be prepared when you're put to the test
gotta step up, you can stand above the rest
here we go, no telling what's next
life's up and down, never know what you'll get
never know what you'll get
gotta step up, then you stand above the rest
justin came around, he knew they could hack it
fired up a sniffer and they're capturing the packets
man in the middle, watching conversations
and came across the ceo's banking information
cronjob set for the end of next week
that would send all the money to a bank overseas
the funds would be secure in an account offshore
and there's no extradition laws signed by singapore
turning it around they were going there to stay
with their severance pay bought tickets one way
packed their whole lives into one bag each
cause if you go to jail that's all that you need
the whole flight dragged as they all felt nauseous
nervous, fatigued, can't sleep but exhausted
barely cleared customs, they all said thanks
hopped on the train went straight to the bank
just as expected they had the right amount
withdrew the balance and they closed the account
tried playing hardball my friends played tougher
and i'm flying out to see them for a visit this summer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfpY2bpEw4M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfpY2bpEw4M
25 November 2015 19:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i'm the defacto leader of a movement
screaming "hack the planet" back in 99
hacktivism in its prime
global Hell had the .mil rooted
alphabet soup and their troops in the suits kid
kicking down doors and seizing my equipment
blocking all my shipments sitting on their hitlist
0day radical emphatic beat addict
and that stab hit i envelope the game call me rabbit
hop to hop i run the internet equivocally
bitch i be hit em with the bytestyle symmetry
digi g digital gangster repping till im dead
steady grep apache logs when im looking for the feds
fast forward now the internet anonymous
and captains of the lulzboat raise the mast prominent
dominant hacks - antisec on that new new
dropping tables in mysql like it was some poo poo
pound antisec - pounding through your speakers
pound antisec - pound it to the bleachers
pound antisec - if youre sitting below deck
in the lulzboat salute bitch and show some respect
lulzsec bitch they fold ya hacked sony
got that md5 we rocked ya macaroni
cook coke crack then boil like a noodle
while hbgary stay toast like a streudel
rootshell on ya bootstrap - now whos that?
botnet mjoin and drop your whole c class
see class? it is evident we flossing
ion cannon in the proc list ddossing
lean back bitch we be sending an injection
magic quotes off JOIN TABLE intersection
put it up on pastebin it wont get erased then
20 million hits to your dome like some cavemen
ask cnn - you want a interview?
send a PRIVMSG to the nickname sabu
on irc - man we convening
this some 99 throwback shit that i'm screaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6IRfJLkpbs
screaming "hack the planet" back in 99
hacktivism in its prime
global Hell had the .mil rooted
alphabet soup and their troops in the suits kid
kicking down doors and seizing my equipment
blocking all my shipments sitting on their hitlist
0day radical emphatic beat addict
and that stab hit i envelope the game call me rabbit
hop to hop i run the internet equivocally
bitch i be hit em with the bytestyle symmetry
digi g digital gangster repping till im dead
steady grep apache logs when im looking for the feds
fast forward now the internet anonymous
and captains of the lulzboat raise the mast prominent
dominant hacks - antisec on that new new
dropping tables in mysql like it was some poo poo
pound antisec - pounding through your speakers
pound antisec - pound it to the bleachers
pound antisec - if youre sitting below deck
in the lulzboat salute bitch and show some respect
lulzsec bitch they fold ya hacked sony
got that md5 we rocked ya macaroni
cook coke crack then boil like a noodle
while hbgary stay toast like a streudel
rootshell on ya bootstrap - now whos that?
botnet mjoin and drop your whole c class
see class? it is evident we flossing
ion cannon in the proc list ddossing
lean back bitch we be sending an injection
magic quotes off JOIN TABLE intersection
put it up on pastebin it wont get erased then
20 million hits to your dome like some cavemen
ask cnn - you want a interview?
send a PRIVMSG to the nickname sabu
on irc - man we convening
this some 99 throwback shit that i'm screaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6IRfJLkpbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6IRfJLkpbs
25 November 2015 19:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ya get bretty good mix if yea leave that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Fihg9x73o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Fihg9x73o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Fihg9x73o
25 November 2015 18:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
International Seminar Digital Memory, Tallinn 24-25 November 2005
National Library of Estonia
The National Library of Estonia is launching a series of seminars with the aim of discussing the issues raised by the implementation of the legal deposit system in the context of digital information environment.
Several European countries, including the Baltic States, have already complemented or are complementing their legal deposit acts with web resources. The implementation of the law has encountered such problems as co-operation difficulties with publishers in receiving legal deposit copies, the creation of accessibility to web publications and the related possible conflict with copyright issues, as well as the selection criteria for web resources. Besides, some information technology problems, such as the creation of multifunctional archival system and a long-term preservation of web resources, need to be resolved.
Proceeding from the above, it is extremely important for legal deposit libraries (national libraries) to share their experience and be advocated by renowned European experts.
The first Digital Memory seminar will cover the topic on how to organise cooperation between legal deposit libraries and publishers in the new circumstances so that the interests of both parties are protected, and what selection criteria should be used for collecting, bibliographic registration and archiving of web resources.
National Library of Estonia
The National Library of Estonia is launching a series of seminars with the aim of discussing the issues raised by the implementation of the legal deposit system in the context of digital information environment.
Several European countries, including the Baltic States, have already complemented or are complementing their legal deposit acts with web resources. The implementation of the law has encountered such problems as co-operation difficulties with publishers in receiving legal deposit copies, the creation of accessibility to web publications and the related possible conflict with copyright issues, as well as the selection criteria for web resources. Besides, some information technology problems, such as the creation of multifunctional archival system and a long-term preservation of web resources, need to be resolved.
Proceeding from the above, it is extremely important for legal deposit libraries (national libraries) to share their experience and be advocated by renowned European experts.
The first Digital Memory seminar will cover the topic on how to organise cooperation between legal deposit libraries and publishers in the new circumstances so that the interests of both parties are protected, and what selection criteria should be used for collecting, bibliographic registration and archiving of web resources.
25 November 2015 18:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Rahvusvaheline seminar “Digitaalne mälu”
24.-25. november 2005, Tallinn
Eesti Rahvusraamatukogu, väike konverentsisaal
Seminari eesmärk on arutada küsimusi, mis seostuvad veebiressursside kogumise ja arhiveerimisega. Teema on eriti aktuaalne seetõttu, et mõnedki Euroopa riigid, s-h. Eesti on täiendanud või täiendamas oma sundeksemplariseadust veebiressursside osaga. Mida toob see kaasa kirjastajale või autorile, kes avaldab oma väljaandeid veebis? Mida see tähendab rahvusraamatukogule, kes peab veebiressursse koguma, arhiveerima ning kättesaadavaks tegema? Kuidas saavad väljaandjad, autorid ja raamatukogu selles valdkonnas koostööd teha? Mille alusel valida, mis veebis leiduvast väärib säilitamist tulevastele põlvedele? Nendele küsimustele otsitakse vastuseid seminaril Digitaalne mälu.
Seminari peaesineja on John Tuck Briti Raamatukogust, kes Ühendkuningriigi Veebiarhiveerimise Konsortsiumi (UK Web Archiving Consortium) juhina on arvestatavamaid eksperte Euroopas. Samuti jagavad oma kogemusi veebiarhiveerimise alalt Balti riikide rahvusraamatukogude spetsialistid.
Ootame seminarile veebiväljaannete kirjastajaid, veebiteenuste pakkujaid, mäluasutuste spetsialiste ja kõiki, kes soovivad kaasa rääkida digitaalse mälu talletamise teemadel.
24.-25. november 2005, Tallinn
Eesti Rahvusraamatukogu, väike konverentsisaal
Seminari eesmärk on arutada küsimusi, mis seostuvad veebiressursside kogumise ja arhiveerimisega. Teema on eriti aktuaalne seetõttu, et mõnedki Euroopa riigid, s-h. Eesti on täiendanud või täiendamas oma sundeksemplariseadust veebiressursside osaga. Mida toob see kaasa kirjastajale või autorile, kes avaldab oma väljaandeid veebis? Mida see tähendab rahvusraamatukogule, kes peab veebiressursse koguma, arhiveerima ning kättesaadavaks tegema? Kuidas saavad väljaandjad, autorid ja raamatukogu selles valdkonnas koostööd teha? Mille alusel valida, mis veebis leiduvast väärib säilitamist tulevastele põlvedele? Nendele küsimustele otsitakse vastuseid seminaril Digitaalne mälu.
Seminari peaesineja on John Tuck Briti Raamatukogust, kes Ühendkuningriigi Veebiarhiveerimise Konsortsiumi (UK Web Archiving Consortium) juhina on arvestatavamaid eksperte Euroopas. Samuti jagavad oma kogemusi veebiarhiveerimise alalt Balti riikide rahvusraamatukogude spetsialistid.
Ootame seminarile veebiväljaannete kirjastajaid, veebiteenuste pakkujaid, mäluasutuste spetsialiste ja kõiki, kes soovivad kaasa rääkida digitaalse mälu talletamise teemadel.
25 November 2015 18:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
one of these Oscar nominee sentences "earth cannot be imagined with out trees..."
yea, maybe
yea, maybe
25 November 2015 16:38
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's photo.
ma oma vanas kohas elan uuesti, aftershoote :D uue asja alguseks
23 November 2015 22:42
Margus Meigo commented on Hannah Aiyana's photo.
iga mees kes sind puutunud
on kokku puutuud Taeva ja maa maagiaga
on kokku puutuud Taeva ja maa maagiaga
23 November 2015 22:41
Margus Meigo commented on Kaidi Uibo's post.
Group: Tutvus
ikka taha n23 November 2015 12:06
Margus Meigo commented on Kaidi Uibo's post.
Group: Tutvus
ma alguses lugesin, et naiseks võib ka võtta kui tahate23 November 2015 12:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and this post is here, not much more then reporting what some reports, and connect the dot,s, what that means if they "report" supposetly so
21 November 2015 15:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So people wonder... why they tweet before the time.. and why there was wiki activity so big, specialy on russian page..
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/2015/11/russia-franch-chinese-talk-pages.html
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/2015/11/russia-franch-chinese-talk-pages.html
http://web-history.blogspot.com.ee/2015/11/russia-franch-chinese-talk-pages.html
17 November 2015 19:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
All that sounds so Redish..
The Red Ribbon Army
http://thepoliticsforums.com/threads/44055-Albert-Pike-and-three-World-Wars/page3
The Red Ribbon Army
http://thepoliticsforums.com/threads/44055-Albert-Pike-and-three-World-Wars/page3
http://thepoliticsforums.com/threads/44055-Albert-Pike-and-three-World-Wars/page3
16 November 2015 19:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but in short from other hand
https://goo.gl/qwQu4R
https://goo.gl/qwQu4R
https://goo.gl/qwQu4R
16 November 2015 19:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Ghoulish murders with a Puckish sense of fun" characterizes these atrocities.
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Masonic_Ritual_Murders.htm
One of the country's most prominent Freemasons, Gull understood that "Freemasonry was the power behind the Government and it was the unseen influence of the Masonic elders which dictated major policies, not the pleasing façade of Commons debate."
The deliberately engineered panic, i.e., the murder of five prostitutes, was done according to Masonic ritual. The ritual murder and disembowelment "met with such ghastly success because of the audacity with which they were executed," said Walter Sickert, Knight's informant whose painter-father had intimate knowledge of the Cleveland Street murders. This so-called "audacity" is a trademark of Masonic "mischief-making."
"Freemasons applaud violence, terror and crime, provided it is carried out in a crafty manner," writes Knight. "Humor is all important and the most appalling crimes may be committed under its cloak."
In fact, one of the key Masonic insights into human nature, says Knight, is the reaction of people to terrorism and serial ritual murders executed with great skill. In other words, people will marvel and say, "What a dirty trick, but how skillfully executed. What a swindle, but how well and with what courage it has been done."
This macabre sense of humor (or base insanity) is the trademark of Masonic Magick - to cause an effect, by an act so devilish yet cunning, that the entire world pays attention - while it's virtually terrorized and traumatized in the same collective gasp of horror.
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Masonic_Ritual_Murders.htm
One of the country's most prominent Freemasons, Gull understood that "Freemasonry was the power behind the Government and it was the unseen influence of the Masonic elders which dictated major policies, not the pleasing façade of Commons debate."
The deliberately engineered panic, i.e., the murder of five prostitutes, was done according to Masonic ritual. The ritual murder and disembowelment "met with such ghastly success because of the audacity with which they were executed," said Walter Sickert, Knight's informant whose painter-father had intimate knowledge of the Cleveland Street murders. This so-called "audacity" is a trademark of Masonic "mischief-making."
"Freemasons applaud violence, terror and crime, provided it is carried out in a crafty manner," writes Knight. "Humor is all important and the most appalling crimes may be committed under its cloak."
In fact, one of the key Masonic insights into human nature, says Knight, is the reaction of people to terrorism and serial ritual murders executed with great skill. In other words, people will marvel and say, "What a dirty trick, but how skillfully executed. What a swindle, but how well and with what courage it has been done."
This macabre sense of humor (or base insanity) is the trademark of Masonic Magick - to cause an effect, by an act so devilish yet cunning, that the entire world pays attention - while it's virtually terrorized and traumatized in the same collective gasp of horror.
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Masonic_Ritual_Murders.htm
16 November 2015 19:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More tabloid:
http://bosniapress.info/index.php/news-in-english-articles/2453-alert-russia-tells-the-world-about-the-nwo-cia-mosad-mi6-plan-for-massacre-in-paris
+ loads of illusionary connectins and still .. some info bits..
people behind these pages, perhaps should be looked in to..:
http://www.thetotalcollapse.com/russia-warns-friday-the-13th-paris-massacre-is-masonic-power-play-for-world-war-iii
http://bosniapress.info/index.php/news-in-english-articles/2453-alert-russia-tells-the-world-about-the-nwo-cia-mosad-mi6-plan-for-massacre-in-paris
+ loads of illusionary connectins and still .. some info bits..
people behind these pages, perhaps should be looked in to..:
http://www.thetotalcollapse.com/russia-warns-friday-the-13th-paris-massacre-is-masonic-power-play-for-world-war-iii
http://bosniapress.info/index.php/news-in-english-articles/2453-alert-russia-tells-the-world-about-the-nwo-cia-mosad-mi6-plan-for-massacre-in-paris
16 November 2015 19:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"cabal freemasons" the new buggie man
16 November 2015 19:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
For the history minded:
"In 1826, a shadowy cabal kidnapped a man who had threatened to expose the rites of the secretive brotherhood. American politics were never the same again."
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history/2015/05/masons_and_american_history_the_1826_kidnapping_allegedly_by_freemasons.html
" is thought to have..."
"Freemasonry is thought to have originated in England and Scotland sometime in the 1500s as a trade organization made up of local stoneworkers, but it soon took on a philosophical air. The triumph of reason began to be a focal point of the organization, as did dedication to deism, or the Enlightenment belief that the existence of God is apparent through observation and study rather than miracles or revelation. "
So the story:
"On Sept. 11 the conflict escalated. A half-dozen Masons showed up at Morgan’s home with an arrest warrant. The charges: petty larceny for stealing a shirt and tie, lent to Morgan by the owner of the town’s tavern, which Morgan had failed to return.
Soon Morgan was being whisked away in a carriage, though reportedly without worry. He apparently thought that testifying that he had simply forgotten to return the items would get him off the hook. He was right. The charges fell through and he was released—only to be immediately arrested again for the outstanding debt of $2.65. This time, the charges stuck.
Morgan spent the following night in jail. The next day, he was forced into the carriage that sped northward out of town, never to be seen again. "
FUll long story:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history/2015/05/masons_and_american_history_the_1826_kidnapping_allegedly_by_freemasons.single.html
"In 1826, a shadowy cabal kidnapped a man who had threatened to expose the rites of the secretive brotherhood. American politics were never the same again."
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history/2015/05/masons_and_american_history_the_1826_kidnapping_allegedly_by_freemasons.html
" is thought to have..."
"Freemasonry is thought to have originated in England and Scotland sometime in the 1500s as a trade organization made up of local stoneworkers, but it soon took on a philosophical air. The triumph of reason began to be a focal point of the organization, as did dedication to deism, or the Enlightenment belief that the existence of God is apparent through observation and study rather than miracles or revelation. "
So the story:
"On Sept. 11 the conflict escalated. A half-dozen Masons showed up at Morgan’s home with an arrest warrant. The charges: petty larceny for stealing a shirt and tie, lent to Morgan by the owner of the town’s tavern, which Morgan had failed to return.
Soon Morgan was being whisked away in a carriage, though reportedly without worry. He apparently thought that testifying that he had simply forgotten to return the items would get him off the hook. He was right. The charges fell through and he was released—only to be immediately arrested again for the outstanding debt of $2.65. This time, the charges stuck.
Morgan spent the following night in jail. The next day, he was forced into the carriage that sped northward out of town, never to be seen again. "
FUll long story:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history/2015/05/masons_and_american_history_the_1826_kidnapping_allegedly_by_freemasons.single.html
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history/2015/05/masons_and_american_history_the_1826_kidnapping_allegedly_by_freemasons.html
16 November 2015 19:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://yournewswire.com/cia-director-met-with-french-security-cheif-before-paris-attacks/
For sure.. cia people meet all the time of all the people..
The White House correspondent for French TV network Canal+, Laura Haim,confirmed that CIA director, John O. Brennan, recently met with his French intelligence counterpart, Bernard Bajolet, shortly before the Paris attacks.
Bernard Bajolet is the Director of générale de la sécurité extérieure (DGSE), the French equivalent of MI6 and the CIA.
GW Center for Cyber and Homeland Security 29 Oct 2015 Panel on “The Shared 21st Century International Estonian Special Mission in Afghanistan
For sure.. cia people meet all the time of all the people..
The White House correspondent for French TV network Canal+, Laura Haim,confirmed that CIA director, John O. Brennan, recently met with his French intelligence counterpart, Bernard Bajolet, shortly before the Paris attacks.
Bernard Bajolet is the Director of générale de la sécurité extérieure (DGSE), the French equivalent of MI6 and the CIA.
GW Center for Cyber and Homeland Security 29 Oct 2015 Panel on “The Shared 21st Century International Estonian Special Mission in Afghanistan
http://yournewswire.com/cia-director-met-with-french-security-cheif-before-paris-attacks/
16 November 2015 19:17
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EI PAGULASMASSIDELE
ja kuna nii suur hulk on viisnurga salamüürlasi, kes otseselt pole "vabamüürlased" selle sõna heas tähenduses, vaid väga tunedad accultistlikud organisatsioonid, kes koos suurte ametnikega usuvad siiralt, et võib tappa kelle iganes oma perest kui see endale kasulikum on või mingi muu eesmärgi saavutamiseks... siis jah.. peab väga etttevaatlik olema, et falceflag oppide otsas ennast solgutada ei laseks ja punasel propacandal (osad isegi ei tea, et BBC puhas punane on.... rääkimata värvidest)16 November 2015 18:33
Margus Meigo commented on Imre Arakas's post.
Group: EI PAGULASMASSIDELE
eks prantsusmaa sees on nagu Eestigi sees suur rahvusluse vastane ja usu vastane punane koll, neil Normannid kuskile kadunud pole, need päris retisid sõdalased ja röövlid, ebamaised, ... ja nagu prantsusmaa on üks põhi põhjusi miks teine maailmasõda juhtus... nii saab ka olema seekord, kui me igat hala ja nuttu uskuma jääme, eriti kui see nii kahekeelselt ja libedalt riigijuhtidelt tulevad kui Prantsusmaa, kes ähvardas venemaaga liituda kui inglismaa saksamaa vastu ei hakka sõdima (ega inglastel siis suur plaan saksavastu polnud... küll aga need inglismaal olevad libekeeled kes oma vendadega prantsusmaal samat laulu laulavad... kas on veel palju verisemaid hümne kui Prantslastel ? )
revolutsioon tõi aint rohkem punaseid pukki.16 November 2015 18:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: EI PAGULASMASSIDELE
või õige haritlane, või kuningliku teadvuse liini kandjad ja arusaajad16 November 2015 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Ojuland's post.
Group: EI PAGULASMASSIDELE
ja prantslaste Normannid, need mõrvarlikud ülikud on sõjajalal edasi elanud üle tuhande aasta, eriti turvaliselt ja mugavalt peale Roomlastega abielludes,
seega prantsusmaa, kui üks teise maailma sõja põhi alustajaid, proovib olla ka seekord, uue sõja alustamise äärel, mis saab aga nii suur olema, et siin ei valita poliiitilisi piire, vaid likvideeritakse ühtselt ära KÕIK ebausu keskused alustuseks, selleks olemas BIOLOOGILISED vahendid kui vaja kiirustada, + lisaks palju muud pikaajalisemat.
Kuid jah, nõustun, usupimedad tuleb likvideerida, kui seekord ka usuvastu sõtta minnakse (mida need kinnimakstud "isiz" ja "islamiriigi" imiteeriad toodavad, proovides jätta selliseid jõledusi maha ja tekitada olukordi mis iga emotsiooni piiri ületaksid ja paduviha külvaksid, eriti just neisse kes konkureerivast usust või usupimedad... et siis ükski selgitus enam ei toimiks, ega terve mõistuse loogika, sest juba teadvusesse sellne sügav haav valedega, päris surnutega tehtud, Pikad 30+ aastased plaanid on need... tava inimesed kipuvad unustama... sest suurimad ajupesusi mitukorda sel ajal juhtunud, kuid eriti suured on neil alati plaanis 30+ aasta kaupa, sest see generatsioonide vanuste kasvamise vahe umbes, kelle kaudu ja kelle laste kaudu nad väärastunud demokraatiat edasi kanda saavad (väärastunud, sest selles süsteemis igale ühele on alati antud võrdne kogus hääli ja sõnaõigust.... aga ilmselgelt, iga usupime ei saa olla võrdne nägijaga kes teab, et me Looduse sünnitis ja iga koduvihkaja ei peaks saama samavõrdväärselt arvestatavat sõnaõigust kui tõsine maamees) )16 November 2015 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Ojuland's post.
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Mis kahju teeb riigile, on oma enda riigimeeste ja erakondade mustamine, ja solgutamine. Juurte lõhkumine.
Eestlased nagu kipuvad vahest unustama, et me üks maailma ainukesi vaimuga alles jäänud inimesi, sest siin on piisav hulk päris jumala teadlike ja tähetarke. Kes üldist teadvust miks me siin ennast hästi hoidma peaksime, on peenelt hoidnud.
Kedagi süüdistada siltidega on mittte Eestlaslik, asjalik ja mõtekas kriitika on ainult koos otseste tegude , tegude lahtiseletamise ja parema tegude väljapakkumise ning nende tegude tagamaade suundade lahtiseletamisel mõtekas16 November 2015 18:05
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Ojuland's post.
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see umbes nagu osad süüdistavad juute, arusaamata, et juutide vastane vandenõu on kestnud aasta tuhandeid, sest Päris juudid on Matraiarhaatlikud (emajärgse mõtlemisega) mis aga praeguse Rooma maailma korraga, kus mehi nühitakse, ei lähe kuidagi ja pole kudagi plaanitud koos toimima.
Eesti algne olek on ka VÄGA "juudilik" ilma talmutita. Me talmut oli seenepõllul mida iga küla tark ise teadis kuidas toimetada, et ajast ees olla ja vaimu tugevana hoida, nüüd aga lurbitakse vaimu tugevndamise asemel alkoholi,16 November 2015 18:01
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Ojuland's post.
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Ärme nüüd nii targa inimese nime alt sellist asja küll suisa ütle, et nõukogude liit mis oli tehtud rahvuste ja vaimu, armastuse hävitamiseks, et to nüüd vähem kahju tegi kui me oma valitsus.. eks ikka see see sama Võin oli (on) oli kes praeguste inimeste ajud on kahtepidiseks ja pehmeks keeranud. Looduse ja Naise suunalise poliitika asemel aetakse miskit usu vastast pool punast võltsi kamarajura kellegi lähedasema kaela keda lihtsam süüdistada, ühepoolselt ka. Selleasemel, et programmist välja astuda ja nagu inimene inimesega rääkida16 November 2015 17:59
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
so basically, we need to look in to, was these people smar enought to make a state, and if they lacked walid credentials for that (by looking most important documents, if they are directed to Life or just Utopia by not mentioning Women as Higer, Nature as better and Relgion as one common important thing that should help to combain us around the world with anothr worlds, peaceful and common way, as God is one, so all species know some way to stay in peace, that is common to us)
14 November 2015 16:43
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
it has always been legal,
just law makers bother not to correct their mistakes, that someone long time ago allowed to make laws by people
who lacked Nature knowledge or even understanding about importance of nature as intelligent system from who can we learn how to be more in a way Nature needs, and women,
so they allowed that, not a single Nature smart respected person would tel them in what direction We need a laws..
as they think , this mistake will pass.. someone else will fix that... Nature will...
well, nature does, if we not able to make it ourself, but better for us, if we are able to do it ourself... before Nature starts to make harsh last minute corrections
just law makers bother not to correct their mistakes, that someone long time ago allowed to make laws by people
who lacked Nature knowledge or even understanding about importance of nature as intelligent system from who can we learn how to be more in a way Nature needs, and women,
so they allowed that, not a single Nature smart respected person would tel them in what direction We need a laws..
as they think , this mistake will pass.. someone else will fix that... Nature will...
well, nature does, if we not able to make it ourself, but better for us, if we are able to do it ourself... before Nature starts to make harsh last minute corrections
14 November 2015 16:40
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's post.
Wellcome to multiculture world : )
where people are not bothered to learn about what culture is, can be and how, and what did they ignore..
where people are not bothered to learn about what culture is, can be and how, and what did they ignore..
14 November 2015 16:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
/(nende muda ei püsi sest pole tõene, faktilise ja faktiline süüdistus sab väga lihtsasti eristatav olla,olema, ainukesed kes veel saavad ajutiselt täis peeretada oma enda ridasi, on enda vennad kes vähem kui usklikud
14 November 2015 15:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
me anname oma juhised üle ka, nüüd selle tarbes eraldi privaat manuaal ja elektrooniline väljaande sotsiaalne võrgustik, mis neid ebasündsaid teateid teie reidade keskelt päevavalgele toob, lubades muidugi ka sopapildujatel teha... kuid nende muda ei püsi kapotil kaua ega määrivalt, küll aga oluline, et päris kriitilised lood nagu seerude sise ärid pataljoni inimeste asjadega mille tavasõdurid ise kinni maksma peavad jms
14 November 2015 15:23
Margus Meigo replied to Maarja Hiiekivi's comment.
näiteks on pikad, päkapikud, mudilased juba nagu oleks inimesed kuigi neil ka tegelikult muu vaim mänguhoos see see aeg tihti ju, siis need kratid ja muud lume helbe printsessid
(kes siis tänapäeva ropus maailmas oleleks jõulavana isiklikud GoGo tydrukud või CheerLeader girls, kuni kes teab milleni)
(kes siis tänapäeva ropus maailmas oleleks jõulavana isiklikud GoGo tydrukud või CheerLeader girls, kuni kes teab milleni)
14 November 2015 15:20
Margus Meigo replied to Janno Simm's comment.
nu proovin mitte, kuid noh... vähemasti muu elu on korra ümber ja see ehk lükkab käima, varem olnud ka pikalt neil soojadel maadel ja nüüd saab rahulikuma südamega praktiliselt naistega midagi head teha
14 November 2015 15:12
Margus Meigo replied to Sina Oled Äge's comment.
või siis läheb nii nagu alati (ehk nagu jumal juhatab, või vähemasti nii ligidalt Selles suunas kui aru mõistan suunduda, vastavalt kuidas juhatusest aru saame )
14 November 2015 15:11
Margus Meigo replied to Sina Oled Äge's comment.
weelei tea weel ei tea,kui paar nädalat kindlasti peaks olema ja vast kuni poolteist kuud
14 November 2015 15:10
Margus Meigo replied to Lootus Maran's comment.
nüüd uus sõna on matriarhaatia (emajärgsus) mis on teema
14 November 2015 15:09
Margus Meigo replied to Lootus Maran's comment.
wau, Sa ka kunagi karedalt feminismi panid radikaalselt
14 November 2015 15:08
Margus Meigo replied to Lootus Maran's comment.
Maine Margus kellega koosolemine Meil tasuta Psychedelic Experience tekitab
et siis mitmuses
et siis mitmuses
14 November 2015 15:04
Margus Meigo replied to Luke Gray's comment.
Only if he says so
12 November 2015 19:52
Margus Meigo replied to Kätlin Pirk's comment.
sh. igasugused vastumeelsused lapsliku protsti tasemel, läbi segi tõsiste arvamuste ja arusaamadega
12 November 2015 19:50
Margus Meigo replied to Kätlin Pirk's comment.
siin polegi küsitud meie tahtmist, vaid kas oleme piisavalt targad, et selles osas midagi ette võtta, mis poleks etteaimatav. Sest see mis etteaimatav on nad juba on ette ära kasutanud oma agenda tarvis.
12 November 2015 19:50
Margus Meigo replied to Maarja Hiiekivi's comment.
ei saa ega ega pole vaja ka
12 November 2015 19:48
Margus Meigo replied to Tarek Yared's comment.
where in the f in a world people get this time, to PAY .. and not jsut, to organize world PLAY competations.. and ... seriouslly, is liek that something that this planet really needs and it is an important addition to get there, the sports?
I just wonder,,
why would they make complaint about demaniding to do something that from alien point of view (unless they are energy vampires) are near retarded after a some time. But to keep it going, just for a sake of someone "winning" .. . why woult anyone invest in to something like that, who wants better world.
I just wonder,,
why would they make complaint about demaniding to do something that from alien point of view (unless they are energy vampires) are near retarded after a some time. But to keep it going, just for a sake of someone "winning" .. . why woult anyone invest in to something like that, who wants better world.
12 November 2015 18:40
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
can You imagine, hae not read the story but it seems, She was honest enought telling, that the Pay cap is the LEAST of the problem we should worry BEFORE understanding why the paycap was made and that there is much more serious things off in a world that generates problems like paycap, what we should fix.
So the root problems first, and also realazation of Martiarchy.
As the original order has always been.
So the root problems first, and also realazation of Martiarchy.
As the original order has always been.
12 November 2015 18:36
Margus Meigo replied to Taavi Tulev's comment.
sama siin
12 November 2015 18:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
are You seerious
11 November 2015 13:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kaitseliidu, avalike suhete osakonna spetsialisti Urmas Reitelmanni postitus Facebookis kus ta nimetas praeguseid Euroopa sõjapõgenikke «inimrämpsuks» ja «mugavusprussakateks»
avalike suhete, spetsalist :D
nu ja siis + veel:
kaitseväe staabi- ja sidepataljoni teavituskeskuse ohvitseri kapten Hannes Võrno nimetades põgenikke «murjaniteks» ja «metsalisteks»
Võrno sa päris saabas või, neil pole metsagi seal ja põrgu on meile endale lähemal!
Ning meil siin ei tule mitte "Mugavus" tegelased ainiti vaid enamuses professionaalsed doktorite kraadidega muu nahavärviga kultuuri gruppe kes siin just ootavad magusat võimalust, ükshaaval õige arvu neegriliste ja kaameratega ümber piirata ja otse YT Lives küsitakse nende SAMA maa professorite käest, et mida Sa täpsemalt nende sõnade all mõtlesid ja kas hakkad vabandama ja pugema kaamera ees või julged jääda oma sõnade juurde ja siis võtta see tagajärg vastu, mis nende lääne militaar liitlaste sama kultuuriga tuttavate kaudu rakendatakse, et üldist naato imidzit hoida, tuleks kes iganes eemaldada, kuidas iganes, et sellist silti ei saaks kunagi keegi kasutada "Nato Liitlaste" osas. (siin veel topelt juhtum + kõik see mis mikrofonidega söögilauas ja dussiruumides võetud on, et sõdurite ja riigi vaimsuse tegeliku taset näha, liitlaste poolt kes meid peaks kaitsma, ... eks sõdurid ole need kes maa Au kõrgemalt peaks esindama, ja aatelikust, ja ehk siis kogu rahva vajalikust, NATO ja veel Mõne arvestades saab määrata selle järgi millised sõdurid neil on ja nende juhtkond. Keda rahvas lubab hoida võimul ja enda eest usaldab nad oma kodu kaitsma, siis peavad ju südamed ühed neil olema, nad arutavad. Ja need kes on VALESTI rassistlikud, need tõesti tõesti, samade nimedega kutsutakse nende poolt, kes meil siin otsustab, mis Liit kuidas Kaitseb )
siis eisaa ka hitlerit süüdistada, et ta meid ära müüs, kui ta analüüsis ka ju... sõdurite põhjal ja sai, et IQ on keskmiselt 89 või mis ta oligi..
ei saada ikka aru, et suurem osa päris kultuuri rahvast, meil ei sõdi juba ammu maailmaga, ammused tuhandesed aastat tagasi juba tegime rahu endaga
avalike suhete, spetsalist :D
nu ja siis + veel:
kaitseväe staabi- ja sidepataljoni teavituskeskuse ohvitseri kapten Hannes Võrno nimetades põgenikke «murjaniteks» ja «metsalisteks»
Võrno sa päris saabas või, neil pole metsagi seal ja põrgu on meile endale lähemal!
Ning meil siin ei tule mitte "Mugavus" tegelased ainiti vaid enamuses professionaalsed doktorite kraadidega muu nahavärviga kultuuri gruppe kes siin just ootavad magusat võimalust, ükshaaval õige arvu neegriliste ja kaameratega ümber piirata ja otse YT Lives küsitakse nende SAMA maa professorite käest, et mida Sa täpsemalt nende sõnade all mõtlesid ja kas hakkad vabandama ja pugema kaamera ees või julged jääda oma sõnade juurde ja siis võtta see tagajärg vastu, mis nende lääne militaar liitlaste sama kultuuriga tuttavate kaudu rakendatakse, et üldist naato imidzit hoida, tuleks kes iganes eemaldada, kuidas iganes, et sellist silti ei saaks kunagi keegi kasutada "Nato Liitlaste" osas. (siin veel topelt juhtum + kõik see mis mikrofonidega söögilauas ja dussiruumides võetud on, et sõdurite ja riigi vaimsuse tegeliku taset näha, liitlaste poolt kes meid peaks kaitsma, ... eks sõdurid ole need kes maa Au kõrgemalt peaks esindama, ja aatelikust, ja ehk siis kogu rahva vajalikust, NATO ja veel Mõne arvestades saab määrata selle järgi millised sõdurid neil on ja nende juhtkond. Keda rahvas lubab hoida võimul ja enda eest usaldab nad oma kodu kaitsma, siis peavad ju südamed ühed neil olema, nad arutavad. Ja need kes on VALESTI rassistlikud, need tõesti tõesti, samade nimedega kutsutakse nende poolt, kes meil siin otsustab, mis Liit kuidas Kaitseb )
siis eisaa ka hitlerit süüdistada, et ta meid ära müüs, kui ta analüüsis ka ju... sõdurite põhjal ja sai, et IQ on keskmiselt 89 või mis ta oligi..
ei saada ikka aru, et suurem osa päris kultuuri rahvast, meil ei sõdi juba ammu maailmaga, ammused tuhandesed aastat tagasi juba tegime rahu endaga
11 November 2015 13:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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isegi putin ei julge ilam pika lipsuta olla9 November 2015 18:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
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tead kyll, seda vabamüürlaste orja sümbolit9 November 2015 18:25
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Rannamees's post.
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tüüp on nii tegija, et isegi pikka lipsu ei kanna9 November 2015 18:25
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Rannamees's post.
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Ma usun,. et need kes ilvese vastu siin ajavad, neil suuremas osas arusaam puudub mis tegelikus maailmas toimub ja miks me õnnelikud peaksime olema, et meil just tema praegu veel on, väga alatu on oma presidenti kallal sedasi ilkuda, ainult purupunaste propakandast nakatunud või heauslikukud vooluga kaasa minevad naiivitarid teeksid sedasi9 November 2015 18:24
Margus Meigo replied to Mihkel Grünthal's comment.
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tõsiselt räägid v? MIs eestlaslik soov see veel on ?9 November 2015 18:22
Margus Meigo replied to Olari Hõbelaid's comment.
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pole vajagi jama ja vale jagada9 November 2015 18:22
Margus Meigo replied to Meelis Jallai's comment.
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kes?9 November 2015 18:22
Margus Meigo replied to Georg Haljas's comment.
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mis asi?9 November 2015 18:22
Margus Meigo replied to Rita Parts's comment.
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ei me ole, koos on ikka alati õigem ja parem olnud, üksi oleme hävitatud selle "ise enda õnne sepp" ideoloogiaga... ise jah, aga ise kõik koos9 November 2015 18:21
Margus Meigo replied to Endel Parts's comment.
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seda kui oluline maa see on, ja seda, et ilves oli meile veel isegi sobilik ja on endiselt9 November 2015 18:21
Margus Meigo replied to Endel Parts's comment.
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Sa siis ususd, et eesti ameeriak silmis nii oluline maa v? Et nad nii targad, et arusaavad kui oluline maa see on v?
TUndub, et siin suur osa eestlasigi, kes ennast nii nimetavad, ei mõista9 November 2015 18:20
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Kuusik's comment.
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millise yyratu raha eest? Tava ärikad teenivd sadu tuhandeid kuus9 November 2015 18:20
Margus Meigo replied to Martin Arnhold's comment.
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vaevalt9 November 2015 18:19
Margus Meigo replied to Enn Õng's comment.
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ma kyll ei arva, et to mõetu mees saab olla..9 November 2015 18:19
Margus Meigo replied to Guido Daniel's comment.
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Mõni usub siiamaani, et rüütel oli hea president, ja mõni arvab, et siegi parem kui ilves9 November 2015 18:19
Margus Meigo replied to Raul Kuusik's comment.
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mis ses ilvest jahtida, teda tuleb kaitsta, looduskaitse all ju9 November 2015 18:18
Margus Meigo replied to Urmas Künstler's comment.
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sest?9 November 2015 18:17
Margus Meigo replied to Heigo Karlson's comment.
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ja mis see tema tahtmine siis oli ?9 November 2015 18:17
Margus Meigo replied to Sander Mitt's comment.
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teame sest?
Unustad ära vist kes neist myyrlastestEI kanna pikka lipsu..9 November 2015 18:16
Margus Meigo replied to Martin Rets Peetersoo's comment.
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mh? On ka v..9 November 2015 18:16
Margus Meigo replied to Stepan Volkov's comment.
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mis osas üle lasi, "Kogu rahva" ?9 November 2015 18:15
Margus Meigo replied to Marko Kalle's comment.
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Mille peale?9 November 2015 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on Weldon Butch Davis's post.
Beatiful!
7 November 2015 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
et nagu laps nii kurb või
7 November 2015 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's photo.
itaalia päris politseiriik tundus kui selles ringi chillisin viimanekord
7 November 2015 14:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
ja öeldim, et sellise hinge osas võib olla nii ja naa http://parnu.kaitseliit.ee/et/uleelamisope-toestas-mets-voib-olla-nii-liitlane-kui-vaenlane seega vaja hoida sõprust kõigil, siis kasulikum paremuse suunas
http://parnu.kaitseliit.ee/et/uleelamisope-toestas-mets-voib-olla-nii-liitlane-kui-vaenlane
6 November 2015 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
http://www.eall.ee/uudised/2007/02_03_07.html
http://www.eall.ee/uudised/2007/02_03_07.html
6 November 2015 23:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
http://www.seljakotirandur.com/%C3%BChe_euroga_p%C3%A4rnust_prantsusmaale
http://www.seljakotirandur.com/%C3%BChe_euroga_p%C3%A4rnust_prantsusmaale
6 November 2015 23:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
http://www.parnupostimees.ee/772058/asso-puidet-lahme-hakkame-vaatama
http://www.parnupostimees.ee/772058/asso-puidet-lahme-hakkame-vaatama
6 November 2015 23:38
Margus Meigo commented on Elver Loho's post.
ükskõik kui palju hoiatate lopus oleks ikka oluline, et promoksite
6 November 2015 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
muidugi ükski päris usklikust päris moslemem midagi sellist ei tee, kuid tubli et need tõprad kopeerisid ja õppisid järgi kirjutama Allahki..
6 November 2015 17:12
Margus Meigo commented on William Floyd's post.
Wonder for how many doctors these have in hundreds of
Kahoosier Hoosier and Judith Avery
Kahoosier Hoosier and Judith Avery
6 November 2015 06:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
6 November 2015 05:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(thisi s how preasts are?)
6 November 2015 04:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and in future "..maybe he forgot about it (by now,) (why he was...)
6 November 2015 04:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
whatever, its 5 years from now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSMTVZ58fvc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSMTVZ58fvc
6 November 2015 04:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
ameerika tants
6 November 2015 04:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHYDjQrr9zQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHYDjQrr9zQ
6 November 2015 04:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ärge küsioge kuidas ma praegu telekat nöha saan
6 November 2015 04:00
Margus Meigo replied to Luke Gray's comment.
but am have to travel back on this time, to get what was it related in most part, but it was related to an Elements without fire
4 November 2015 18:37
Margus Meigo replied to Luke Gray's comment.
this was interacting loop with self projecting thoughts in to internets that get in contact with these bits.
Testing some new type of magic, or at least newfor me as have not been seen in on public domain to much ,
with time, the resultsshould come back.
Can come not as well, for many reasons, but for now yes, it seems safe to do that, to test on this, upfron of time
Testing some new type of magic, or at least newfor me as have not been seen in on public domain to much ,
with time, the resultsshould come back.
Can come not as well, for many reasons, but for now yes, it seems safe to do that, to test on this, upfron of time
4 November 2015 18:36
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Thanks for sharing that :D
I still wait feedback from feminist groups about that, i asked their advicem how would they help Her
I still wait feedback from feminist groups about that, i asked their advicem how would they help Her
4 November 2015 18:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
also on side, hear some simple notes from https://www.facebook.com/Ardavir/videos/402297917648
3 November 2015 15:33
Margus Meigo commented on Edith Boyer-Telmer's post.
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But anyone whos relgion IS ture, CAN say, their relgion is the true one, and they should3 November 2015 15:15
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
the one on the right needs help
3 November 2015 15:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid on olemas, maailmas palju paremaid ja ohutumaid aineid kui LSD-25
Siin üks maailma respekteeritum leht selle kohta (lisatud on effektid ka need, mis siis on kui valesti kasutada, kuid need pahad effektid kindlasti enamustel vähemaks ajaks jäävad kui õudusfilmi vaadates)
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_effects.shtml
Õudusfilmid muidu ka avavad kanalid muumaailma jaoks, et need ligi saaks, meie meeltes, nagu igast muud teadmised on kanalid ka maiselt mille kaudu meid solgutada... rabbit hole.. edasi... mis me ümber maagilise ringi teeb, sest seda nüüd nägema hakkame igalpool peale teadmissaamist
Siin üks maailma respekteeritum leht selle kohta (lisatud on effektid ka need, mis siis on kui valesti kasutada, kuid need pahad effektid kindlasti enamustel vähemaks ajaks jäävad kui õudusfilmi vaadates)
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_effects.shtml
Õudusfilmid muidu ka avavad kanalid muumaailma jaoks, et need ligi saaks, meie meeltes, nagu igast muud teadmised on kanalid ka maiselt mille kaudu meid solgutada... rabbit hole.. edasi... mis me ümber maagilise ringi teeb, sest seda nüüd nägema hakkame igalpool peale teadmissaamist
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_effects.shtml
2 November 2015 14:07
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek J's comment.
siinkohal muidugi mitte sassi ajada, tundide pikkune kogu keha orgasm ka mehel on lihtsalt üks tillikune osa mida võimalik kogeda, ja seegi selleks, et ta oleks valmis päris muid, tõsisemaid asju kogema ja õppima, orgasm oli lihtsalt igapäevane näide mida paljud sajad korrad kogenud, et siis peaks oskama kirjeldada hästi ju, .... et siis selles osas, et need kirjeldused mis ainete kohta kirjutatud on... et võrrelda, et miks ei ole häid kirjeldusi.. ametlikult
(kuigi, tegelikult on, kuid ei saada aru terminitest nagu "life changing" "Long lasting postive effects" "time sifting" etc)
(kuigi, tegelikult on, kuid ei saada aru terminitest nagu "life changing" "Long lasting postive effects" "time sifting" etc)
2 November 2015 14:04
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek J's comment.
Siiani, on LSD tuntud kui kõige tõhusam, võimsam, odavaim ja ohutuim pikemailt toimiv ja jäädavalt toimiv ravim mida üldse kunagi testitud on. (kuni sinnamaani, kui patisente hakati voodi kylge siduma ja neile katastroofilisi doose andma väga vales settingus inimeste poolt kes ei saanud aru ei vaimumaailmast ega inimestest endast, ...sest nende viimaste testijate lõppeesmärk oli tõestada, et see ei toimi - kui valesti anda) ... nu ja siis ei toiminutki, paljudel
2 November 2015 14:01
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek J's comment.
see peaks ju lihtne, universaalne olema, enamus sellega kokku puutunud, nii mehed ja naised (oih.. ja siinkohal, kas on eraldus, et naisel orgasmid omakorda veel erinevad?) .... huvitav oleks kui juhtuks olema kaks sarnast kirjeldust...
Ja nüüd proovida teaduslikult saada sarnast kirjeldust erinevate kogemustega inimeste käest, kelle kogemus sõltub ka soovidest, asukohast, inimestest, eelmistest kogemustest, ajast, toidust ja sellest mida elus loetud ja nähtud ja... veel nii mõnestki.
Ja kujuta ette, just selle asja seletust, ma plaanin ka enne lahkumist kirja saada , et see mis on ja see mis moodi kogetakse, selliselt ,et enamus nõustuksid, või lausa kõik.
Mulle meeldivad sellised ülesanded mis öeldakse "võimatu":
Nagu mu soome sõber ütles, miracles i make in a moment, impossible takes a little bit longer
Ja nüüd proovida teaduslikult saada sarnast kirjeldust erinevate kogemustega inimeste käest, kelle kogemus sõltub ka soovidest, asukohast, inimestest, eelmistest kogemustest, ajast, toidust ja sellest mida elus loetud ja nähtud ja... veel nii mõnestki.
Ja kujuta ette, just selle asja seletust, ma plaanin ka enne lahkumist kirja saada , et see mis on ja see mis moodi kogetakse, selliselt ,et enamus nõustuksid, või lausa kõik.
Mulle meeldivad sellised ülesanded mis öeldakse "võimatu":
Nagu mu soome sõber ütles, miracles i make in a moment, impossible takes a little bit longer
2 November 2015 13:59
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek J's comment.
Aga tehke keegi proovi, kirjeldage orgasmi, lühidalt ja pikalt, sedasi, et teine sellega nõustuks, ja aru saaks, nii kogeja kui kogenematu
2 November 2015 13:56
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek J's comment.
Ei saa ju avardada mõttemaailma ja silmaringi koomale tõmmata ühes ja samas :D
Kuid tuleb arvestada ka, kelle käes SEE valitsuse osa on, kes meile nende asjade kohta "lugeda" annab. Asi pole vandenõus vaid elementaarses praktilises poliitikas viimasel paarituhandel aastal.
Kuid asju, mida ei teata, et on olemas, ei saa adekvaatselt kirjeldada ka parema soovi juures tekstis, nagu ka orgasmist lugemine, ilma seda kogemata ei anna Sulle piisavalt seda milleks see loodud, nii ka nende seente ja muude taimedega.
Ja kui veel mingitel võimsatel, pea maavälistel jõududel ütleks (olgu siis nad, sake of story, maised kasvõi)
et kui neil veel on agenda, meelega node asjade vastu rääkida ettevaatlikult ja järjekindlat, siis aga näiteks võib kogu seksist hoopis vale arusaam jääda.
NIng kui seda illusiooni jõuliselt kogu planeedil hoida (sest see aluspõhi muude arusaamade hoidmiseks) siis kes iganes otsib kuskilt "Mujalt" näeb ikka ühte ja seda sama, sest tegu piisavalt oluliste asjadega, et selle nimel likvideerida kultuure kui nad ei kuuletu nende asjade peitmise osas.
Eestlased isegi kärbseseeni enam ei tunne... arvatkase, et kasutu, maitsetu mürgiseenega tegu, reaalsuses, praktikas aga, ta hoopis muud moodi toimib meie keha ja teadvusega kui praegune algeline teadvus on võimalik kirjeldama hingerännakuid ajas.
Isegi ajas reisimist, kirjeldavad nad kui teooriat, selle asemel, et praktikas seda ise tunda (ise ajas reisdes, ikka aitab natuke kaasa ju, see tunnetus, aja uurimisele ja quat teooriatele jms).
Kuid jah, mis pättidesse puutub, siis see on omakorda ohtlik neid SINNA rüppe visata ja neile avardada neid maailmasi, kuid see tundub ikkagi turvalisem kui neil lihtsalt, ilma alandlikuse õppuseta lasta edasi elada
Kuid tuleb arvestada ka, kelle käes SEE valitsuse osa on, kes meile nende asjade kohta "lugeda" annab. Asi pole vandenõus vaid elementaarses praktilises poliitikas viimasel paarituhandel aastal.
Kuid asju, mida ei teata, et on olemas, ei saa adekvaatselt kirjeldada ka parema soovi juures tekstis, nagu ka orgasmist lugemine, ilma seda kogemata ei anna Sulle piisavalt seda milleks see loodud, nii ka nende seente ja muude taimedega.
Ja kui veel mingitel võimsatel, pea maavälistel jõududel ütleks (olgu siis nad, sake of story, maised kasvõi)
et kui neil veel on agenda, meelega node asjade vastu rääkida ettevaatlikult ja järjekindlat, siis aga näiteks võib kogu seksist hoopis vale arusaam jääda.
NIng kui seda illusiooni jõuliselt kogu planeedil hoida (sest see aluspõhi muude arusaamade hoidmiseks) siis kes iganes otsib kuskilt "Mujalt" näeb ikka ühte ja seda sama, sest tegu piisavalt oluliste asjadega, et selle nimel likvideerida kultuure kui nad ei kuuletu nende asjade peitmise osas.
Eestlased isegi kärbseseeni enam ei tunne... arvatkase, et kasutu, maitsetu mürgiseenega tegu, reaalsuses, praktikas aga, ta hoopis muud moodi toimib meie keha ja teadvusega kui praegune algeline teadvus on võimalik kirjeldama hingerännakuid ajas.
Isegi ajas reisimist, kirjeldavad nad kui teooriat, selle asemel, et praktikas seda ise tunda (ise ajas reisdes, ikka aitab natuke kaasa ju, see tunnetus, aja uurimisele ja quat teooriatele jms).
Kuid jah, mis pättidesse puutub, siis see on omakorda ohtlik neid SINNA rüppe visata ja neile avardada neid maailmasi, kuid see tundub ikkagi turvalisem kui neil lihtsalt, ilma alandlikuse õppuseta lasta edasi elada
2 November 2015 13:55
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek J's comment.
(Y)
Ja alati veel on silmaringi avardumiseks loodud häid taimi, seeni ja kemikaale,
ikka parem neid kurgust alla ajada kasvõi toruga kui lihtsalt...
Ja alati veel on silmaringi avardumiseks loodud häid taimi, seeni ja kemikaale,
ikka parem neid kurgust alla ajada kasvõi toruga kui lihtsalt...
2 November 2015 11:59
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
TUbli TUbli : )
Lase ennast kallida ja mudida rohkem, kui piiri lähedale tulema hakkab
Lase ennast kallida ja mudida rohkem, kui piiri lähedale tulema hakkab
2 November 2015 11:51
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's post.
i cant make up also what she is, what would You choose
2 November 2015 11:34
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
Oh teid trenni inimesi.. üks sõltuvus teise vastu..
2 November 2015 11:32
Margus Meigo commented on Berit Masso's post.
Miks neid inimesi lasete moslemiteks kutsuda?
See suht haige.. me ei peaks lisama valele juurde, leitke mingi muu sõna nende rooma kommunisti kurja vaimu sigitistele kes neid videosi, pilte ja tegusi teevad
neil pole moslemitga suurt midagi rohkemat pistmist kui Eesti passiga punastel kommaritel ja Eesti pärimuskultuuri talunaisel
See suht haige.. me ei peaks lisama valele juurde, leitke mingi muu sõna nende rooma kommunisti kurja vaimu sigitistele kes neid videosi, pilte ja tegusi teevad
neil pole moslemitga suurt midagi rohkemat pistmist kui Eesti passiga punastel kommaritel ja Eesti pärimuskultuuri talunaisel
2 November 2015 10:46
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
i told u, they come after our wifes
2 November 2015 10:41
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's post.
where is ketchup?
this is how i see most of the hamburgers and food of meat anyway, as this is how the food of meat REALLY is... but we like to make it illusionary and hide, what people really eat... the animals...
this is how i see most of the hamburgers and food of meat anyway, as this is how the food of meat REALLY is... but we like to make it illusionary and hide, what people really eat... the animals...
2 November 2015 10:40
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's post.
Send it to my friends in Korea
2 November 2015 10:39
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
It was man religious duty before, in Hebrew culture to give sex to a wife, (man did not and should up to now, not have any right to demand any sex ever) ... but now, some broken women take it as a like some manipulation and business deal, selling them self low actually, thinking they can trick man by deny sex or allowing if man does one or another thing...
manipulating with sex, by a women also, was and still is a great sin, as this means, women has forgetting who She is
manipulating with sex, by a women also, was and still is a great sin, as this means, women has forgetting who She is
2 November 2015 10:38
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
TOdays world, we have to also realize that there is many who look like women but they are just wearing women look a like body, they have perverted male spirit inside (or homo spirit often) and so they are actually against real women's (and for sure against any man who search for real love from a women) ... so be careful who gives You a blowjob in these days.
It is great agenda from them, the ones from Greek-roman culture, to make "semi man" (the ones that look like women but act like homos) who can be used for all kind of controls .
Transsexuals have been showing off long time ago in Hawaii how they blow guys or let them self to be fked in to aas when victim (male, who fks) is drunk, letting guy know he is a she... for many sick reasons besides money and spiritual darkness
It is great agenda from them, the ones from Greek-roman culture, to make "semi man" (the ones that look like women but act like homos) who can be used for all kind of controls .
Transsexuals have been showing off long time ago in Hawaii how they blow guys or let them self to be fked in to aas when victim (male, who fks) is drunk, letting guy know he is a she... for many sick reasons besides money and spiritual darkness
2 November 2015 10:35
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Why in a heck ALL of You get so easily sucked up by this communist trick? The Feminist feminist feminist man and so on,
it is a MATRIARCHY that we man, should protect and worship,
and if we see, that some women is just a feminist (that is, politically women, not really realizing their actual being who was before world) then we should help that women to get in to right track,
to get in to Matriarchy as Jewish family's was and some real ones still are in great proportions, also Natives, Maris and many more
it is a MATRIARCHY that we man, should protect and worship,
and if we see, that some women is just a feminist (that is, politically women, not really realizing their actual being who was before world) then we should help that women to get in to right track,
to get in to Matriarchy as Jewish family's was and some real ones still are in great proportions, also Natives, Maris and many more
2 November 2015 10:30
Margus Meigo replied to Robert Brockway's comment.
Prentice Reid You do realize that if You proper Jewish women this is what You should do ?
TO choose proper man, who is proper religious in right way
TO choose proper man, who is proper religious in right way
2 November 2015 10:26
Margus Meigo replied to Virtuaal Virtuoos Baltroon's comment.
aga proovime. (kuid tõesti, ei jõua praegu)
2 November 2015 10:20
Margus Meigo commented on Erik Kesa's photo.
yea the geometry and upper wall in combination, good one
2 November 2015 10:16
Margus Meigo commented on Margus von Einmann's post.
moslemid ise teeksid peajägu lühemaks sellised poserid, kannavad siis veel näomaski ka oma plagatöö tarvis... nagu mis usklik häbeneks enda õiglast tegu,
savages kamp, rahastus sarnasest kohast kust tibilsi vallutajategi oma ... kuid jah, ohtlik see, et libe jää, ja mitmed kiilakad ise teadmata kes mida juhuib, asutuvad ka ise, viha teenistusse klikkima nagu puppetid ja kaasa minema lattidega keda iganes peksma kuhu poole näpuga näidatakse.
Venemaal avastasin, et Antifa ja selle riigituuma rahvuslaste partei , kelle liikmed värvilisi avalikult notivad ( 88 sõbrad jms), et node veebilehe rahastus ja toetus tuli samas kohast, nimeserverid (see mis serveri sees aitab weebilehe aadressile kylastajaid edasi suunata) isegi olid samad.
Peaks oma vana ketta pealt need ekraani pildi tõestused üles korjama.. pronksi ajastu aegadest
savages kamp, rahastus sarnasest kohast kust tibilsi vallutajategi oma ... kuid jah, ohtlik see, et libe jää, ja mitmed kiilakad ise teadmata kes mida juhuib, asutuvad ka ise, viha teenistusse klikkima nagu puppetid ja kaasa minema lattidega keda iganes peksma kuhu poole näpuga näidatakse.
Venemaal avastasin, et Antifa ja selle riigituuma rahvuslaste partei , kelle liikmed värvilisi avalikult notivad ( 88 sõbrad jms), et node veebilehe rahastus ja toetus tuli samas kohast, nimeserverid (see mis serveri sees aitab weebilehe aadressile kylastajaid edasi suunata) isegi olid samad.
Peaks oma vana ketta pealt need ekraani pildi tõestused üles korjama.. pronksi ajastu aegadest
1 November 2015 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on Margus von Einmann's post.
see jällegi punaste poolt tehtud reklaam vist, mite tasnadiline,
Miks rsa pärast on vaja lukustada inimesi, kes juba nii põrunud on, et põletavad inimesi? Sohu kohemaid saata vaja sellised
Miks rsa pärast on vaja lukustada inimesi, kes juba nii põrunud on, et põletavad inimesi? Sohu kohemaid saata vaja sellised
1 November 2015 20:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui ta tasuta otseülekannet konverentsilt ei tee, siis väga kaheldava väärtusega, see info mida räägib
1 November 2015 16:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vahest füüsikute mõistusega inimestel raske aru saada, et kuidas saab meie maa seestpoolt olla suurem kui väljastpoolt võrreldes muude maadega...saared ka
1 November 2015 16:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mitte me pole "eurooa" vanimad rahvad, vaid olemegi, vanim rahavas, ehk eks ?
rahvaste tekitaja... kuid me taotud raud läks ülbeks kätte ära ja...
Lugu ka sellest tehtud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8fd7RQIXus
rahvaste tekitaja... kuid me taotud raud läks ülbeks kätte ära ja...
Lugu ka sellest tehtud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8fd7RQIXus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8fd7RQIXus
1 November 2015 16:46
Margus Meigo commented on Berit Masso's post.
nujahsiid
1 November 2015 15:44
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Kallas's post.
Group: EI PAGULASMASSIDELE
kuid jah, siis muidugi ka päris korralike, asjalike, sügavaid tervelt sõbraliku olemusega negreid veel kohanud linnas (seda kõike paari kuu jooksul), ... nende osas isegi kahju oli, kui noorte kamp Kristines vastu tuli, ja näpuga näidates suure häälega naerma hakkasid "näe oi pagulased..." (see teisejärgulane, et nad pole pululuses..)
Lihtsalt häbi oli, sest noh, nad vaatasid neid noori ka kahjutundega, nagu alaarenenud valgeid affe, kelle olemusest tuleb üle olla, ... kuid nagu jah.. nii madalal tasemel ei peaks eestlased asja ajama...
Ikka sõbralikult ja tõsiselt juurde minna, uurida mis teeb siiin ja kuidas ja mida usb jne, see ainuke moodus kuidas teada saame ja ennast õigest iettevalmistada saame, enne kui siin uus komuun luuakse.
Vaja on arusaada külalistel, meie ühtsusest ja peremehelikusest ja meie oma armastusest oma riigi, valitsuse, maa ja rahvapärismuse osas eriti veel, sest nende uskumuse kaudu, kui keegi pole peremees (õige respektiga) siis tuleb ennast ise peremeheks teha selles kohas (kasvõi aegamisi, kui jõuga pole sobilik, või võimalik).
Kuid meil siin mingi oma riigi kallal halamine käib...
Üks neeger bussis ütles ka mul, et nende kodus ei hoolita inimelust teiste kägide poolt, ilma mureta ainult sinu jalanõude kättesaamiseks, avalikult lüüakse maha kui vaja, ja see on tavaline
Ja siis peame ka arvestama, millise karastatusega inimesed paljud neist on, ja et kas tava rusika vibutamisega saab siin kedagi hirmutada... ega rusikaga vibutamine ei tee peremeheks, siin meiemaal ka võõrab vibutanud, ega see neid peremeesteks tee1 November 2015 15:40
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Kallas's post.
Group: EI PAGULASMASSIDELE
pidage meeles, meile ei tule tava pagulased, vaid ülikooli kaudu, suurem osa neist talv ei kohuta. Lisaks nad keskmisest linnas töö otsiast haritumad tihtipeale.
Madratsi firmas Hilgens kus käisin, neil vähemalt 3 neegrit tööl, ja nad kahe kordharidusega, odava koha peal teenivad viieka tunnis (ja toimetavad midagi hnds freega rääkides enamuse päeva oma keeles) .. ma alguses muidugi mõtlesin, et kuidas neil selline hea tääkoht õnnestus saada...
Lisaks nad venekeeles, panid peale põrkvad venkud kahekesi, nii paika et viimased häbelikult koju läksid, kuigi nad ametipositsioonilt olid kõvemad samas firmas.
Nad ikkagi üle 6 aasta ukrainas enne elanud olid ja venekeel vabalt selge neil.
Et jah.. liiga kergekäeliselt kujutame siin ette, et me nagu teaksime kes negrid on meil siin ja millised...
Üks teine töökoht kus käisin tööd otsimas ja ei saanud, seal kokku 9 eri maalast koos, nendest 5-4 vähemalt olid neegrilased (mõned päris kenad naised),
see see pizza koht vabaduse väljakul, rahvusalste metalli meeste klubi vastas kus Tarmo Kruusimäe kunagist toimetas,
...ei temagi oleks osanud kunagi midagi sellist arvata, et nii multikultuurne see tänavanurk olema saab peagi
Siis veel märganud päris New York taolisi gänkstasi paarides õhtti ringi vaatamas, analüüsimas kuritegeliku struktuuri ja gänge, aga meil siin teine level, nad vist pole aru saanud kuidas siin pätid toimivad veel ning siis ka plätudes vanamehi, kes selgelt kõrgete esoteeriliste ja vaimsete teadmistega, nagu tagasihoidlikud vaesemad pere neegrid, pensionil, läbisõidul... viisin viimase ka satanisti klubise protesti kus VooDoo nukud laes ja kurja kuulutavad meeldivad maalid seinal, näidates, et see tavaline tase meie noortele..
Kuid ja... mõelge ikka jah.. miks Looja selle koha MUSTAmäeks ristinud on...kus nad kõik nüüd koolis käivad : )
ja isaks, praegu enamus siin, on maakuulajad, plaani paika panekuks. Sest see mida Marilin Manson ette kuulutas ja ära hoidis tol ajal osaliselt, edasi lykkas.. see on reaalne plaan, nende mustade rahuvuslaste seas, ja kui me nii idioodid oleme, et mees mehe vastu sõtta läheme, siis peagi saame otsa ka siis kiirelt, kui 1 mehega 10 maha võtame enne langemist... lihtsalt teha matemaatikat, kui palju nende tagalas saab juurde sündida ja kui palju meitel.. ühel pool on miljardid, teisel pool alla 300 millioni, millest ka suurem osa on ise enda vastased1 November 2015 15:35
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Kallas's post.
Group: EI PAGULASMASSIDELE
Mina ka muide, ma loodan, et saan lennupileti raha enne kokku, et jõuan soojale maale (enne talve)
Praegu juba päris jahe ja ebamugav ka, takistab töö tegemist ja majandamist1 November 2015 15:07
Margus Meigo commented on Alen Svistun's post.
So how was it?
"and go put your shirt in to wash, look at yourself! !
"and go put your shirt in to wash, look at yourself! !
1 November 2015 14:23
Margus Meigo commented on Eunique Grisby's post.
proper one
31 October 2015 11:22
Margus Meigo commented on Naomi Klein's link.
is it not socialism near everywhere right now?
31 October 2015 11:13
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
11. Share that message
30 October 2015 19:16
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Stukis's post.
Group: Tutvus
Ma proovin murul paljujalu käia, et tunnetaks, et teo majasi kati ei teeks, seega ma kahjuks ei saa klubiga liituda.
Pole piisavalt pikk ka : )
Muidu meeldib reisida ja maailma parandada mitmes maailmas korraga. Et kui tigude tagaajamise vahel aega on Shamanistliku, nõia või usu asjadega tegeleda üksi või seltsis, siis hoitke kursis,
Kuid Mark Stukis, Annaks Looja rohkem selliseid Naisi kellel sellised vennad30 October 2015 19:10
Margus Meigo replied to Vambulo Lagunov's comment.
Group: Tutvus
vb. see sünnipäeva kink vms30 October 2015 19:05
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
are this chicks for real or is that a joke ?
"sweetheart," "baby," "honey" ???
"sweetheart," "baby," "honey" ???
30 October 2015 18:56
Margus Meigo commented on Aldo Roomere's post.
Eestpoolt kolme rida aint
30 October 2015 18:54
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
nagu ameerikas . )
30 October 2015 18:54
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Man issue is that he wears a tie around the neck to be liked by another man, that's fucked up and have to be stopped
30 October 2015 18:53
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
are this chicks for real or is that a joke ?
"sweetheart," "baby," "honey" ???
Sexist?
what are they bitching about again `?
"sweetheart," "baby," "honey" ???
Sexist?
what are they bitching about again `?
30 October 2015 18:51
Margus Meigo commented on Nur Natasya's photo.
nice, really lice.
(well, minus the dead body parts, but still, done like in restoration, great!t)
Potato and all of it looks really nice, really,
So You made this ?
(well, minus the dead body parts, but still, done like in restoration, great!t)
Potato and all of it looks really nice, really,
So You made this ?
30 October 2015 18:49
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's video.
keep it up bro
30 October 2015 13:06
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Tolsberg's post.
True that, pleasure as well. And training.. and healing, it is all what how you measure, and in whose life what period.
30 October 2015 00:41
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Tolsberg's post.
Kas Sa telliksid?
30 October 2015 00:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
väga timm esilinastus oli
29 October 2015 23:20
Margus Meigo commented on armastan's photo.
aga muide olete armsad
28 October 2015 19:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3w1_E1V46M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3w1_E1V46M
28 October 2015 19:19
Margus Meigo commented on armastan's photo.
(ehk räägi seda inimestele kes on kinni linnades nagu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norilsk ) või need naised kes teise maailmasõja ajal Berliinis olid oma mehi ootamas aga tulid muud mehed.. või need kellele juuatäis inimene on autoga otsa sõitnud ja nad peavad haiglavoodis veetma ja hingama torude kaudu või ...
ah et ise ise ise... saatanistlik kommunistlik jura, millega inimesi lukustatakse ja erladatakse. Valudesse ja masedusse surutakse, sel ajal kui võike osa tunneb enesevõimendust sellest lausest ja oma pseudo esimese maailma probleemide üle enam ei nukrutse
ah et ise ise ise... saatanistlik kommunistlik jura, millega inimesi lukustatakse ja erladatakse. Valudesse ja masedusse surutakse, sel ajal kui võike osa tunneb enesevõimendust sellest lausest ja oma pseudo esimese maailma probleemide üle enam ei nukrutse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norilsk
28 October 2015 19:18
Margus Meigo commented on armastan's photo.
SPIRITUAALNE PLÄMA
(ja seda inimestele kes elab looduse ja vaimu maailmanimel)
(ja seda inimestele kes elab looduse ja vaimu maailmanimel)
28 October 2015 19:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kui edasi minna
27 October 2015 20:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Need nii just sellised asjad... sellist moodi sarnaselt nagu ma luua plaanisin.. ja hoops.. olemas. Hmm, huvitav maailm
27 October 2015 20:04
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's post.
IN a first one You look like Gerge Bush Junior,
Are You sure, you choose and picked this ones Yourself mate?
not, that there is nothing wrong with G.W j.
Are You sure, you choose and picked this ones Yourself mate?
not, that there is nothing wrong with G.W j.
25 October 2015 21:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And now, lets meditate this storm off.. but prayers as you can see have saved most of people . )
--
Richard Rawlings
23. oktoober kell 13:44
A todos nuestros amigos en México, tengan cuidado. Estamos orando para que todo el mundo se mantenga salvo.
I know we have a lot of Fast N' Loud fans in Mexico, so please everyone send prayers and positive thoughts that way! Hoping everyone stays safe out there. This Hurricane is no joke. #hurricanePatricia
http://mashable.com/2015/10/23/hurricane-patricia-scott-kelly-photo/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link
--
Richard Rawlings
23. oktoober kell 13:44
A todos nuestros amigos en México, tengan cuidado. Estamos orando para que todo el mundo se mantenga salvo.
I know we have a lot of Fast N' Loud fans in Mexico, so please everyone send prayers and positive thoughts that way! Hoping everyone stays safe out there. This Hurricane is no joke. #hurricanePatricia
http://mashable.com/2015/10/23/hurricane-patricia-scott-kelly-photo/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link
http://mashable.com/2015/10/23/hurricane-patricia-scott-kelly-photo/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link
25 October 2015 21:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"ENSO conditions have occurred at two- to seven-year intervals for at least the past 300 years, but most of them have been weak. Evidence is also strong for El Niño events during the early Holocene epoch 10,000 years ago.[85]
El Niño affected pre-Columbian Incas [86] and may have led to the demise of the Moche and other pre-Columbian Peruvian cultures.[87] A recent study suggests a strong El-Niño effect between 1789 and 1793 caused poor crop yields in Europe, which in turn helped touch off the French Revolution.[88] The extreme weather produced by El Niño in 1876–77 gave rise to the most deadly famines of the 19th century.[89] The 1876 famine alone in northern China killed up to 13 million people.[90]
An early recorded mention of the term "El Niño" to refer to climate occurred in 1892, when Captain Camilo Carrillo told the geographical society congress in Lima that Peruvian sailors named the warm north-flowing current "El Niño" because it was most noticeable around Christmas. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Ni%C3%B1o
El Niño affected pre-Columbian Incas [86] and may have led to the demise of the Moche and other pre-Columbian Peruvian cultures.[87] A recent study suggests a strong El-Niño effect between 1789 and 1793 caused poor crop yields in Europe, which in turn helped touch off the French Revolution.[88] The extreme weather produced by El Niño in 1876–77 gave rise to the most deadly famines of the 19th century.[89] The 1876 famine alone in northern China killed up to 13 million people.[90]
An early recorded mention of the term "El Niño" to refer to climate occurred in 1892, when Captain Camilo Carrillo told the geographical society congress in Lima that Peruvian sailors named the warm north-flowing current "El Niño" because it was most noticeable around Christmas. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Ni%C3%B1o
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Ni%C3%B1o
25 October 2015 21:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Usu ometi
Usu ometi Näen Sinu silmadest, et Sa ei ole minuga
Ei usalda Sa vist mitte kedagi
Sa küsid: "Ah milleks! Kõik lõpeb niikuinii..."
Kuid ma ju tean, et meil on teisiti
Õnnele ju keegi ei ütle "Ei" Su pärast kõik vist jätta võin Läbi tule lähen, tulen üle vee Et olla Sinuga, Sinuga! Näib kergest kergeim see Läbi tule lähen, tulen üle vee Et ainult veenda Sind, veenda Sind! Mis võiksin teha veel? Tuli valus, puhas Tules põlen tuhaks Tuli valus, puhas Tules põlen tuhaks Tean, kardad pettuda nii nagu oli teistega Las tõestan Sulle siis, et meil see pole nii Miks Sa ei usu, et meil on teisiti Ei öelda ma ei saa veel Hüvasti Õnnele ju keegi ei ütle "Ei" Usu kõik hästi minna võib Läbi tule lähen, tulen üle vee Et olla Sinuga, Sinuga! Näib kergest kergeim see Läbi tule lähen, tulen üle vee Et ainult veenda Sind, veenda Sind! Mis võiksin teha veel? Tuli valus, puhas Tules põlen tuhaks Tuli valus, puhas Tules põlen tuhaks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FxkvVnNhxg
(vabandust, parandan mingiaeg ehk..)
Usu ometi Näen Sinu silmadest, et Sa ei ole minuga
Ei usalda Sa vist mitte kedagi
Sa küsid: "Ah milleks! Kõik lõpeb niikuinii..."
Kuid ma ju tean, et meil on teisiti
Õnnele ju keegi ei ütle "Ei" Su pärast kõik vist jätta võin Läbi tule lähen, tulen üle vee Et olla Sinuga, Sinuga! Näib kergest kergeim see Läbi tule lähen, tulen üle vee Et ainult veenda Sind, veenda Sind! Mis võiksin teha veel? Tuli valus, puhas Tules põlen tuhaks Tuli valus, puhas Tules põlen tuhaks Tean, kardad pettuda nii nagu oli teistega Las tõestan Sulle siis, et meil see pole nii Miks Sa ei usu, et meil on teisiti Ei öelda ma ei saa veel Hüvasti Õnnele ju keegi ei ütle "Ei" Usu kõik hästi minna võib Läbi tule lähen, tulen üle vee Et olla Sinuga, Sinuga! Näib kergest kergeim see Läbi tule lähen, tulen üle vee Et ainult veenda Sind, veenda Sind! Mis võiksin teha veel? Tuli valus, puhas Tules põlen tuhaks Tuli valus, puhas Tules põlen tuhaks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FxkvVnNhxg
(vabandust, parandan mingiaeg ehk..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FxkvVnNhxg
25 October 2015 19:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.
kui rääkisin sinuga õrnuste keeles
mind uskuda harva sa julgesid
kui rääkisn sinuga kainuse keeles
siis vastuseks kõrvad sa sulgesid
kui rääkisin sinuga tooruse keeles
mind kuulvatki mõnikord näisid sa
kui täisesti mõistmatus valusas keeles
siis jälle mu unedes käisid sa
kui proovisin rääkida pilgete keeles
mind millest küll sündimast tõrkusid
ma rääkisin sinuga tuhandes keeles
kõik jõuetult tagasi põrkusin
ja uuesti uuesti õrnuste keeles
su luidetel tuikudes hüüdsin ma
ja kaste ja vihma ja allika keeles
su liivasid võluda püüdsin ma
mis asi mis oli ja rääkis mis keeles
kuid midagi purustas lõhkus see
pea rääkima õppisin tundmatus keeles
pea selgeks ma õppisin jõhkruse
sa sõimuga jõhkruse valusas keeles
ei mõistnud kuid taipasid valu sa
ent seda ei mõistnud et ilusas keeles
et minul on sinust veel valusam
sa andesta armas kui tuhandes keeles
ei olda oma armasele kallis mõistetav
võibolla siis tuhande esimest kallis
ei mõisteta lihtsalt ei mõisteta
ma ometi näen sinu silmimis keeles
mis keeles mu sõnad su huulile
ah millal see oli ah millal
mis keeles me teineteist viimati kuulsime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgVHi3X-2QU
// ka südame hardaks võttev... sest niii on see Armastuse Jumalanna...
kui rääkisin sinuga õrnuste keeles
mind uskuda harva sa julgesid
kui rääkisn sinuga kainuse keeles
siis vastuseks kõrvad sa sulgesid
kui rääkisin sinuga tooruse keeles
mind kuulvatki mõnikord näisid sa
kui täisesti mõistmatus valusas keeles
siis jälle mu unedes käisid sa
kui proovisin rääkida pilgete keeles
mind millest küll sündimast tõrkusid
ma rääkisin sinuga tuhandes keeles
kõik jõuetult tagasi põrkusin
ja uuesti uuesti õrnuste keeles
su luidetel tuikudes hüüdsin ma
ja kaste ja vihma ja allika keeles
su liivasid võluda püüdsin ma
mis asi mis oli ja rääkis mis keeles
kuid midagi purustas lõhkus see
pea rääkima õppisin tundmatus keeles
pea selgeks ma õppisin jõhkruse
sa sõimuga jõhkruse valusas keeles
ei mõistnud kuid taipasid valu sa
ent seda ei mõistnud et ilusas keeles
et minul on sinust veel valusam
sa andesta armas kui tuhandes keeles
ei olda oma armasele kallis mõistetav
võibolla siis tuhande esimest kallis
ei mõisteta lihtsalt ei mõisteta
ma ometi näen sinu silmimis keeles
mis keeles mu sõnad su huulile
ah millal see oli ah millal
mis keeles me teineteist viimati kuulsime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgVHi3X-2QU
// ka südame hardaks võttev... sest niii on see Armastuse Jumalanna...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgVHi3X-2QU
25 October 2015 19:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(teine vaatus)
Vaid su naer, andestada võib,
lootust kanda võib,
lunastada kõik.
Soe suvehääl, nii mu hinge jääb,
kui vaid tead, mu juurde jääd.
Sinu naer, kui armastuse õis,
unelmad kõik lõi,
ihalduse tõi.
Kõikjal sinu hääl, nii mu hinge jääb,
armas vaid mu juurde jää.
Kuni veel sind hoida suudan endale,
kuni veel mind leida suudad sa.
Tea, mu kogu elu kuulub sinule
ja su valu minu osaks saab.
Kuni veel sa minu elu kevades,
kuni veel ma sinu naeru näen.
Me arm ei kao,
sest helge mälestus meid kahte seob.
Sügistuul, suvehääled viib,
naeratuse viib,
lootuse ta viib.
Öine sügisjää, nii mu hinge jääb,
kui vaid tead, et lahkud sa.
Kuni veel sind hoida suudan endale,
kuni veel mind leida suudad sa.
Tea mu kogu elu kuulub sinule
ja su valu minu osaks saab.
Kuni veel sa minu elu kevades,
kuni veel ma sinu naeru näen.
Me arm ei kao,
sest helge mälestus meid kahte seob
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEfY9SnjV1I
Vaid su naer, andestada võib,
lootust kanda võib,
lunastada kõik.
Soe suvehääl, nii mu hinge jääb,
kui vaid tead, mu juurde jääd.
Sinu naer, kui armastuse õis,
unelmad kõik lõi,
ihalduse tõi.
Kõikjal sinu hääl, nii mu hinge jääb,
armas vaid mu juurde jää.
Kuni veel sind hoida suudan endale,
kuni veel mind leida suudad sa.
Tea, mu kogu elu kuulub sinule
ja su valu minu osaks saab.
Kuni veel sa minu elu kevades,
kuni veel ma sinu naeru näen.
Me arm ei kao,
sest helge mälestus meid kahte seob.
Sügistuul, suvehääled viib,
naeratuse viib,
lootuse ta viib.
Öine sügisjää, nii mu hinge jääb,
kui vaid tead, et lahkud sa.
Kuni veel sind hoida suudan endale,
kuni veel mind leida suudad sa.
Tea mu kogu elu kuulub sinule
ja su valu minu osaks saab.
Kuni veel sa minu elu kevades,
kuni veel ma sinu naeru näen.
Me arm ei kao,
sest helge mälestus meid kahte seob
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEfY9SnjV1I
25 October 2015 19:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
good luck decrying or rather deciphering that Illuminati freaks (in a good sense of word, as punks) with out revealing love
25 October 2015 19:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
// kas peame? (spell teiste saladuse sisse minekuks, et neid avada, nende kasuks kes neid hoiavad)
Ma ei taha teada sinu saladusi
Igaühel on neid õigus omada
Ühte vaid palun, ütle mul, mis on su nimi
Kallis võõras öine rändaja
Minu hinge salakambritesse tule
Midagi su eest mul pole varjata
Ühte vaid palun, ära veel küsi mu nime
Sest et seda öelda ma ei saa
Tunnen kuidas mind sa kutsud aga tulla veel ei saa
Saladuseloori varjus peame elama
Kuigi tundub et me rajad eal ei ristugi on nii
Pimedus meid ühte liidab lõpuks ikkagi
Sinu eest ma anda võiksin oma vere
Sinu pärast kõigest valmis loobuma
Mida küll mõistus raevukalt keelata püüab
Seda süda eal ei andesta
Tunnen kuidas mind sa kutsud aga tulla veel ei saa
Saladuseloori varjus peame elama
Kuigi tundub et me rajad eal ei ristugi on nii
Pimedus meid ühte liidab lõpuks ikkagi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkkvRe-iyIY
Ma ei taha teada sinu saladusi
Igaühel on neid õigus omada
Ühte vaid palun, ütle mul, mis on su nimi
Kallis võõras öine rändaja
Minu hinge salakambritesse tule
Midagi su eest mul pole varjata
Ühte vaid palun, ära veel küsi mu nime
Sest et seda öelda ma ei saa
Tunnen kuidas mind sa kutsud aga tulla veel ei saa
Saladuseloori varjus peame elama
Kuigi tundub et me rajad eal ei ristugi on nii
Pimedus meid ühte liidab lõpuks ikkagi
Sinu eest ma anda võiksin oma vere
Sinu pärast kõigest valmis loobuma
Mida küll mõistus raevukalt keelata püüab
Seda süda eal ei andesta
Tunnen kuidas mind sa kutsud aga tulla veel ei saa
Saladuseloori varjus peame elama
Kuigi tundub et me rajad eal ei ristugi on nii
Pimedus meid ühte liidab lõpuks ikkagi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkkvRe-iyIY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkkvRe-iyIY
25 October 2015 19:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsbET0OTaqA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsbET0OTaqA
25 October 2015 19:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ab Fm
Ainult õhk on me vahel, nii puhas ja hõre,
C# Bbm Eb Cm
Et üleni päris sind näen.
Fm Bb/D
Ent ses õhus on ees valgest kaugusest võre
C# Eb Fm G7/D
Ma kardan, et sirutad käe
F/C C Eb F
Ja tuuli vaid tunned, sest mind ju ei ole.
C# Ab Ebm Ab
Tuul on kõikjal ja tuules üks lind
F#m B E A9
Sulle laulab, et midagi muutunud pole.
Vaheosa: F#m B E A9
D C#m Eb
Ära taipa, et polegi mind.
klaverill..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpEWIxhRCLw
Ainult õhk on me vahel, nii puhas ja hõre,
C# Bbm Eb Cm
Et üleni päris sind näen.
Fm Bb/D
Ent ses õhus on ees valgest kaugusest võre
C# Eb Fm G7/D
Ma kardan, et sirutad käe
F/C C Eb F
Ja tuuli vaid tunned, sest mind ju ei ole.
C# Ab Ebm Ab
Tuul on kõikjal ja tuules üks lind
F#m B E A9
Sulle laulab, et midagi muutunud pole.
Vaheosa: F#m B E A9
D C#m Eb
Ära taipa, et polegi mind.
klaverill..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpEWIxhRCLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpEWIxhRCLw
25 October 2015 19:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja kui leiad.. ära karda, ära plehku pane nagu esimeses laulus..
Sinu sõnad on kui vaikus peale vihma,
sinu silmad on kui tormi tõotav põud,
äkki lõdvemaks nüüd laseme su rihma,
et me tunneme - see on see on see.
Ärme laseme nüüd ajal minna raisku,
lihtsalt parajaks me aega ka ei tee:
tundub - vaja on meil teineteise kaissu,
et me tunneme - see on see on see.
Ref:
Ära karda mind, ka mina olen väike
Nõnda lihtne kõik see olla ju ei saa
Olen jäätnud lill ja sina ole päike
Tahan sulada kui kevadine maa.
Ära karda mind, ka mina olen arglik
Kuhu kaovad küll mu mõtted minu peast?
Ootan, et sa käiks mu põues vaikselt vargil
et me tunneme - see on see on see.
Sinu juuksed on kui tuul, mis puhub merelt.
Sinu huuled on kui eksitavad teed.
Sinu silmad on kui jumalate perelt.
Veel ei usu, et mu lähedal on need.
Sinu hääl on nagu samet ümber kaela
Sinu kael on nagu valgus üle vee.
Kas puudutada võin su kleidipaela,
et me tunneme - see on see on see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_9LYRN1CkA
Sinu sõnad on kui vaikus peale vihma,
sinu silmad on kui tormi tõotav põud,
äkki lõdvemaks nüüd laseme su rihma,
et me tunneme - see on see on see.
Ärme laseme nüüd ajal minna raisku,
lihtsalt parajaks me aega ka ei tee:
tundub - vaja on meil teineteise kaissu,
et me tunneme - see on see on see.
Ref:
Ära karda mind, ka mina olen väike
Nõnda lihtne kõik see olla ju ei saa
Olen jäätnud lill ja sina ole päike
Tahan sulada kui kevadine maa.
Ära karda mind, ka mina olen arglik
Kuhu kaovad küll mu mõtted minu peast?
Ootan, et sa käiks mu põues vaikselt vargil
et me tunneme - see on see on see.
Sinu juuksed on kui tuul, mis puhub merelt.
Sinu huuled on kui eksitavad teed.
Sinu silmad on kui jumalate perelt.
Veel ei usu, et mu lähedal on need.
Sinu hääl on nagu samet ümber kaela
Sinu kael on nagu valgus üle vee.
Kas puudutada võin su kleidipaela,
et me tunneme - see on see on see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_9LYRN1CkA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_9LYRN1CkA
25 October 2015 19:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see keda otsid on mehel:
ma olen õis, olen vili, olen vaikus, olen heli
olen heli, sinu muusika
ma olen vesi, olen maa, olen päike, olen kuu
olen seeme ja ma olen su kodutee pihlapuu
ma olen kulg, olen seisatus taastäitumise tarbeks
ma olen iha ja ma olen armastus
ma olen kindlameelne püüdlus ja ajutine harrastus
vabaduse mõte ja mõteteta vabadus
leia mind taas… leia mind taas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFfmWu20d7U
ma olen õis, olen vili, olen vaikus, olen heli
olen heli, sinu muusika
ma olen vesi, olen maa, olen päike, olen kuu
olen seeme ja ma olen su kodutee pihlapuu
ma olen kulg, olen seisatus taastäitumise tarbeks
ma olen iha ja ma olen armastus
ma olen kindlameelne püüdlus ja ajutine harrastus
vabaduse mõte ja mõteteta vabadus
leia mind taas… leia mind taas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFfmWu20d7U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFfmWu20d7U
25 October 2015 19:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
2. Osa
Algus,
linge kinni loorehades
linge kinni loorehades teel ja veel
minge ringi, soorebased
minge ringi, soorebased teel ja veel
hing jäi kinni soorebased hingeringi soorebasena
ümberringi soo, lebame
ümberringi soo, lebame vees ja me
ümber ringi soorebane
ümber ringi soorebane teeb ja me
hinged kinni soorebase hingeringis soorebasena
hing jäi kinni soorebase hingeringi soorebasena
hing käib ringi soorebase hing käib ringi soorebasena
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56s0_kfgThc
Algus,
linge kinni loorehades
linge kinni loorehades teel ja veel
minge ringi, soorebased
minge ringi, soorebased teel ja veel
hing jäi kinni soorebased hingeringi soorebasena
ümberringi soo, lebame
ümberringi soo, lebame vees ja me
ümber ringi soorebane
ümber ringi soorebane teeb ja me
hinged kinni soorebase hingeringis soorebasena
hing jäi kinni soorebase hingeringi soorebasena
hing käib ringi soorebase hing käib ringi soorebasena
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56s0_kfgThc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56s0_kfgThc
25 October 2015 18:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Jääb nutt
Pimeduse seest
Leian oma pea
Siis sa eal ei pea
Kõrval valvama
Veel kord
Tähti ostan taeva helenduse käest
Arm on hämaruses soe
Sinu sisse poen
Niisked silmad koon hõbetähe pealt
Jäätorm põletab su teed
Silmist kadund õige meel
Jääb nutt
Pimeduse seest
Leian oma pea
Siis sa eal ei pea
Kõrval valvama
Veel kord
Tähti ostan taeva helenduse käest
Viis tuult peitsid ära kuu
Lindudena siis lendu tõusid koos
Öise päikse väel
Veel kord
Tähti ostan taeva helenduse käest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQi3FaMCL8Y
/loputiitrite lopp...
Pimeduse seest
Leian oma pea
Siis sa eal ei pea
Kõrval valvama
Veel kord
Tähti ostan taeva helenduse käest
Arm on hämaruses soe
Sinu sisse poen
Niisked silmad koon hõbetähe pealt
Jäätorm põletab su teed
Silmist kadund õige meel
Jääb nutt
Pimeduse seest
Leian oma pea
Siis sa eal ei pea
Kõrval valvama
Veel kord
Tähti ostan taeva helenduse käest
Viis tuult peitsid ära kuu
Lindudena siis lendu tõusid koos
Öise päikse väel
Veel kord
Tähti ostan taeva helenduse käest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQi3FaMCL8Y
/loputiitrite lopp...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQi3FaMCL8Y
25 October 2015 18:24
Margus Meigo replied to Vladimir Semjonov's comment.
:D
25 October 2015 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on Raul Cardenas's post.
Yes they are, above death
25 October 2015 16:58
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's photo.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/9859294/Hitlers-food-taster-speaks-of-Fuhrers-vegetarian-diet.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/9859294/Hitlers-food-taster-speaks-of-Fuhrers-vegetarian-diet.html
25 October 2015 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's photo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism
"Personal accounts from people who knew Hitler and were familiar with his diet indicate that he did not consume meat as part of his diet during this period. Some modern day analysis has theorized that Hitler's vegetarianism may have been due to Richard Wagner's historical theories, or even a psychological reaction to his niece's death rather than a commitment to animal welfare, but these theories are contradicted by reports that he was often distressed by images of animal cruelty and suffering, as well as being an antivivisectionist."
// Muidugi nad kasutasid seda keerulist sõna, et mitte selgelt öelda,et Hitler oli loomade õiguste eest seisja.. kuid siis:
antivivisectionist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_rights
Animal rights is the idea that some, or all, non-human animals are entitled to the possession of their own lives and that their most basic interests—such as the need to avoid suffering—should be afforded the same consideration as similar interests of human beings.[2] Advocates oppose the assignment of moral value and fundamental protections on the basis of species membership alone—an idea known since 1970 as speciesism, when the term was coined by Richard D. Ryder—arguing that it is a prejudice as irrational as any other. They maintain that animals should no longer be viewed as property or used as food, clothing, research subjects, entertainment, or beasts of burden.
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Rollin further states that the Biblical Sabbath requirement promulgated in the Ten Commandments "required that animals be granted a day of rest along with humans. Correlatively, the Bible forbids 'plowing with an ox and an ass together' (Deut. 22:10–11). According to the rabbinical tradition, this prohibition stems from the hardship that an ass would suffer by being compelled to keep up with an ox, which is, of course, far more powerful. Similarly, one finds the prohibition against 'muzzling an ox when it treads out the grain' (Deut. 25:4–5), and even an environmental prohibition against destroying trees when besieging a city (Deut. 20:19–20). These ancient regulations, virtually forgotten, bespeak of an eloquent awareness of the status of animals as ends in themselves", a point also corroborated by Norm Phelps.[14][15]
The philosopher and mathematician, Pythagoras (c. 580–c. 500 BCE), urged respect for animals, believing that human and nonhuman souls were reincarnated from human to animal, and vice versa
// Muidugi kahjuks aga inimestel nii kõrged mõtted ajus ei toimi ja nad pigem kummardavad Plato ja Aristotelese mõttekõike nii naiste kui loomade osas, ja siis imestavad miks maailm peale teghnoloogilist ja majandusliku ning kommunikatsioonilist ja kirjandusliku kõrghtke endiselt raskes olukorrras inimestega täidetud on... keda ei osata omavahel kenasti arusaama panna... kuid yeah,, üksikuid julgeid ja tarku jääb ja saab olema, kes suudavad ennast ajalukku jätta ja samas õigesti elada ning oma õiged arusaamad ka inimestele edasi kanfda pi
"Personal accounts from people who knew Hitler and were familiar with his diet indicate that he did not consume meat as part of his diet during this period. Some modern day analysis has theorized that Hitler's vegetarianism may have been due to Richard Wagner's historical theories, or even a psychological reaction to his niece's death rather than a commitment to animal welfare, but these theories are contradicted by reports that he was often distressed by images of animal cruelty and suffering, as well as being an antivivisectionist."
// Muidugi nad kasutasid seda keerulist sõna, et mitte selgelt öelda,et Hitler oli loomade õiguste eest seisja.. kuid siis:
antivivisectionist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_rights
Animal rights is the idea that some, or all, non-human animals are entitled to the possession of their own lives and that their most basic interests—such as the need to avoid suffering—should be afforded the same consideration as similar interests of human beings.[2] Advocates oppose the assignment of moral value and fundamental protections on the basis of species membership alone—an idea known since 1970 as speciesism, when the term was coined by Richard D. Ryder—arguing that it is a prejudice as irrational as any other. They maintain that animals should no longer be viewed as property or used as food, clothing, research subjects, entertainment, or beasts of burden.
-
Rollin further states that the Biblical Sabbath requirement promulgated in the Ten Commandments "required that animals be granted a day of rest along with humans. Correlatively, the Bible forbids 'plowing with an ox and an ass together' (Deut. 22:10–11). According to the rabbinical tradition, this prohibition stems from the hardship that an ass would suffer by being compelled to keep up with an ox, which is, of course, far more powerful. Similarly, one finds the prohibition against 'muzzling an ox when it treads out the grain' (Deut. 25:4–5), and even an environmental prohibition against destroying trees when besieging a city (Deut. 20:19–20). These ancient regulations, virtually forgotten, bespeak of an eloquent awareness of the status of animals as ends in themselves", a point also corroborated by Norm Phelps.[14][15]
The philosopher and mathematician, Pythagoras (c. 580–c. 500 BCE), urged respect for animals, believing that human and nonhuman souls were reincarnated from human to animal, and vice versa
// Muidugi kahjuks aga inimestel nii kõrged mõtted ajus ei toimi ja nad pigem kummardavad Plato ja Aristotelese mõttekõike nii naiste kui loomade osas, ja siis imestavad miks maailm peale teghnoloogilist ja majandusliku ning kommunikatsioonilist ja kirjandusliku kõrghtke endiselt raskes olukorrras inimestega täidetud on... keda ei osata omavahel kenasti arusaama panna... kuid yeah,, üksikuid julgeid ja tarku jääb ja saab olema, kes suudavad ennast ajalukku jätta ja samas õigesti elada ning oma õiged arusaamad ka inimestele edasi kanfda pi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism
25 October 2015 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's photo.
Kundalini Omg how important that picture is.
History always try to hide the fact, that Germany was strongest and biggest pusher of vegetarianism and Nature love
History always try to hide the fact, that Germany was strongest and biggest pusher of vegetarianism and Nature love
25 October 2015 16:42
Margus Meigo replied to Tiia Tips's comment.
vabandust Tiia, ajas sedasi..
25 October 2015 16:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
/eelviimaseks laululks.. muusikali tiitrijaoks.. /
"Kes on tulnud, kes on läinud.
Kes on jäänud ilma valuta.
Kes on enda sisse ära kadunud.
Kes on varjus, kes on varjuta.
Sinu unenägudesse sulan oma vee,
sinu põselohkudese valan oma tee.
Sinu unenägudesse sulan oma vee,
sinu põselohkudesse valan oma tee.
Sinu koiduhirmu sisse panen enda kuu,
sinu ehavalu peale panen enda suu. 4x
Kes elama eland, kes suremata surnud,
nende hingi noolib valuvaim.
Kes minema läinud, kes tulema tulnud,
neis vaimudes ei kustu eluvaim.
Sinu koidhirmu sisse panen enda kuu,
sinu ehavalu peale panen enda suu...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IszjQ_26DTs
"Kes on tulnud, kes on läinud.
Kes on jäänud ilma valuta.
Kes on enda sisse ära kadunud.
Kes on varjus, kes on varjuta.
Sinu unenägudesse sulan oma vee,
sinu põselohkudese valan oma tee.
Sinu unenägudesse sulan oma vee,
sinu põselohkudesse valan oma tee.
Sinu koiduhirmu sisse panen enda kuu,
sinu ehavalu peale panen enda suu. 4x
Kes elama eland, kes suremata surnud,
nende hingi noolib valuvaim.
Kes minema läinud, kes tulema tulnud,
neis vaimudes ei kustu eluvaim.
Sinu koidhirmu sisse panen enda kuu,
sinu ehavalu peale panen enda suu...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IszjQ_26DTs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IszjQ_26DTs
25 October 2015 15:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
/ ja vahest need mehed tulevad, hoopis maaalt ja ise soovivad sind kaasa võtta /
Läksin juukseid kammima, kamm, see kukkus merre.
Merest tõusis kullast mees, ütles ''Ole terve.''
Tahtis anda suisa suud, kaela kullast raha.
Küsis kaasaks kindlasti tulla talle tahan.
Lubas ainult kätel mind kogu elu kanda,
Vikerkaare otsa alt varanduse anda
Mina talle vastasin: ''Enne hüppan vette kui et kulla kütkeisse annan ennast kätte!''
Üles-alla, juuksed valla
Taevaservalt kiigun alla
Vabana kui sinikirju lind!
Siia-sinna lendu minna
Arm ja rõõm kui täidab rinna
Maailmas vaid ilu hoiab mind!
Mis ma kulla kutsele oskan ikka kosta? Pole ilmas varandust, mille eest mind osta!
Kuld on külm ja hingetu - pole mõistust meelel! Kõval kullast asemel pole laule keelel.
Üles-alla, juuksed valla
Taevaservalt kiigun alla
Vabana kui sinikirju lind!
Siia-sinna lendu minna
Arm ja rõõm kui täidab rinna
Maailmas vaid ilu hoiab mind!
Puna palgeilt kolletab, sumbub silmist sära.
Vikerkaare väravalt võtme võtab ära.
Sestap talle vastasin - enne hüppan vette
kui et kulla kütkeisse annan ennast kätte.
Üles-alla, juuksed valla
Taevaservalt kiigun alla
Vabana kui sinikirju lind!
Siia-sinna lendu minna
Arm ja rõõm kui täidab rinna
Maailmas vaid ilu hoiab mind!
Üles-alla, juuksed valla
Taevaservalt kiigun alla
Vabana kui sinikirju lind!
Siia-sinna lendu minna
Arm ja rõõm kui täidab rinna
Maailmas vaid ilu hoiab mind!
Maailmas vaid ilu hoiab mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhXo-F_FcR4
Läksin juukseid kammima, kamm, see kukkus merre.
Merest tõusis kullast mees, ütles ''Ole terve.''
Tahtis anda suisa suud, kaela kullast raha.
Küsis kaasaks kindlasti tulla talle tahan.
Lubas ainult kätel mind kogu elu kanda,
Vikerkaare otsa alt varanduse anda
Mina talle vastasin: ''Enne hüppan vette kui et kulla kütkeisse annan ennast kätte!''
Üles-alla, juuksed valla
Taevaservalt kiigun alla
Vabana kui sinikirju lind!
Siia-sinna lendu minna
Arm ja rõõm kui täidab rinna
Maailmas vaid ilu hoiab mind!
Mis ma kulla kutsele oskan ikka kosta? Pole ilmas varandust, mille eest mind osta!
Kuld on külm ja hingetu - pole mõistust meelel! Kõval kullast asemel pole laule keelel.
Üles-alla, juuksed valla
Taevaservalt kiigun alla
Vabana kui sinikirju lind!
Siia-sinna lendu minna
Arm ja rõõm kui täidab rinna
Maailmas vaid ilu hoiab mind!
Puna palgeilt kolletab, sumbub silmist sära.
Vikerkaare väravalt võtme võtab ära.
Sestap talle vastasin - enne hüppan vette
kui et kulla kütkeisse annan ennast kätte.
Üles-alla, juuksed valla
Taevaservalt kiigun alla
Vabana kui sinikirju lind!
Siia-sinna lendu minna
Arm ja rõõm kui täidab rinna
Maailmas vaid ilu hoiab mind!
Üles-alla, juuksed valla
Taevaservalt kiigun alla
Vabana kui sinikirju lind!
Siia-sinna lendu minna
Arm ja rõõm kui täidab rinna
Maailmas vaid ilu hoiab mind!
Maailmas vaid ilu hoiab mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhXo-F_FcR4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhXo-F_FcR4
25 October 2015 15:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Sobib veel see lisana siia, seotult sest..
(see transport.. marusoovist Adamsoni lauluni, transition)
Mul anna veidi aega veel,
veidi veel, et järgi mõelda.
Mida loen su silmadest,
On rohkem kui ma julgen loota.
Hingepiin,
viimse mõistuse viib.
Riskin ma,
kui ka pean kaotama.
Juhtub kõik,
mis juhtuma peab,
sest nüüd ma kindlalt tean.
Ma tahan jäädagi nii,
ja tõeliselt tunda.
Ma tahan armastada sind,
ja endast kõik anda.
Ma vajan veidi aega veel,
veidi veel see piinab hinge.
Ma sinu eest ei põgene,
ma tahan endas olla kindel.
Hingepiin,
viimse mõistuse viib.
Riskin ma,
kui ka peaks kaotama.
Juhtub kõik,
mis juhtuma peab,
sest nüüd ma kindlalt tean.
Ma tahan jäädagi nii,
ja tõeliselt tunda.
Ma tahan armastada sind,
ja endast kõik anda.
Ma tahan jäädagi nii,
(jäädagi nii)
ja tõeliselt tunda
(tõeliselt tunda).
Ma tahan armastada sind,
ja endast kõik anda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE6SyQxADGM
(see transport.. marusoovist Adamsoni lauluni, transition)
Mul anna veidi aega veel,
veidi veel, et järgi mõelda.
Mida loen su silmadest,
On rohkem kui ma julgen loota.
Hingepiin,
viimse mõistuse viib.
Riskin ma,
kui ka pean kaotama.
Juhtub kõik,
mis juhtuma peab,
sest nüüd ma kindlalt tean.
Ma tahan jäädagi nii,
ja tõeliselt tunda.
Ma tahan armastada sind,
ja endast kõik anda.
Ma vajan veidi aega veel,
veidi veel see piinab hinge.
Ma sinu eest ei põgene,
ma tahan endas olla kindel.
Hingepiin,
viimse mõistuse viib.
Riskin ma,
kui ka peaks kaotama.
Juhtub kõik,
mis juhtuma peab,
sest nüüd ma kindlalt tean.
Ma tahan jäädagi nii,
ja tõeliselt tunda.
Ma tahan armastada sind,
ja endast kõik anda.
Ma tahan jäädagi nii,
(jäädagi nii)
ja tõeliselt tunda
(tõeliselt tunda).
Ma tahan armastada sind,
ja endast kõik anda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE6SyQxADGM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE6SyQxADGM
25 October 2015 14:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ühjejärjekordse muusika tarvis kogutud playlist TUleviku tarvis..
25 October 2015 14:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
need polaratid... extremed mehe õnne argusest ja sõjalase soovist ja naise andumuslik armastus ja Kalilik marutorm mis maa puhtaks pühib kui.. kui valel ajal.. kui valel ajal sa ei tea,
siis.. lendab nii mõnigi pea, võiks riimida, kuid jha... see ohtlikuks vastuoluliseks, teist vales nägevaks sõjaks muutub, ku isa ei tea valel ajal..
siis.. lendab nii mõnigi pea, võiks riimida, kuid jha... see ohtlikuks vastuoluliseks, teist vales nägevaks sõjaks muutub, ku isa ei tea valel ajal..
25 October 2015 14:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aga samas.. kas tead..
Kas tead
Sulle, kes sa oled täitnud minu kaunid soovid
Õrnalt hingan kuna tundub nagu poleks päris
see õhk me ümber soojalt puudutab su huuli
mida tunnen mida mõtlen, südames on keegi
Sulle, kes sa oled päike minu igas päevas
Minu ingel, kuu ja tähed, minu hingelaegas
Mu südamesse oled kirjutatud sa kui luule
seistes sinu kõrval raske mõelda iial muule
Sina tead kuidas naeratavad sinisilmad
Tasakaalu leidnud olles, seistes sinu kõrval
Nagu kass kes leidis kodu pärast pikka külma
või vaid unelm riivab hetkeks liblikana silma
Kas tead, kas sa tead
kuidas armastan ma
kuidas sind armastan ma
Sulle, sest sa oled lihtsalt minu suurim tunne
Minu suurim õnn siin ilmas suurim õnnetunne
Rändand kogu elu justkui tühjas veeta kõrbes
Raske tunda raske mõelda
mis kandis mind su juurde
Oled kastepärleist kirjutatud kauneim luule
Mu südamesse kirjutatud kõige kauneim tunne
Tundub justkui oleks näinud lihtsalt und ma
Kuidas elan hingan tunnen kui sa mu juures
Sinu armastuse maagia imeliseim tunne
Täiustab mu iga väikest õnnelikku päeva
Lihtsalt täiustab mu iga imelist päeva
Lihtsalt täiustab mu iga õnnelikku päeva
Kas tead, kas sa tead
kuidas armastan ma
kuidas sind armastan ma
Sulle, sest sa oled lihtsalt minu suurim tunne
Minu suurim õnn siin ilmas suurim õnnetunne
Sulle, kes sa oled päike minu igas päevas
Minu ingel, kuu ja tähed, minu õnnelaegas
Mu südamesse oled kirjutatud sa kui luule
seistes sinu kõrval raske mõelda iial muule
Sulle, sest sa oled lihtsalt minu suurim tunne
Minu suurim õnn siin ilmas suurim õnnetunne
Kas tead, kas sa tead
kuidas armastan ma
kuidas sind armastan ma
Kas sa tead, kas sa tead
kuidas armastan ma
kuidas sind armastan ma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsyxl1Z9DaE
Kas tead
Sulle, kes sa oled täitnud minu kaunid soovid
Õrnalt hingan kuna tundub nagu poleks päris
see õhk me ümber soojalt puudutab su huuli
mida tunnen mida mõtlen, südames on keegi
Sulle, kes sa oled päike minu igas päevas
Minu ingel, kuu ja tähed, minu hingelaegas
Mu südamesse oled kirjutatud sa kui luule
seistes sinu kõrval raske mõelda iial muule
Sina tead kuidas naeratavad sinisilmad
Tasakaalu leidnud olles, seistes sinu kõrval
Nagu kass kes leidis kodu pärast pikka külma
või vaid unelm riivab hetkeks liblikana silma
Kas tead, kas sa tead
kuidas armastan ma
kuidas sind armastan ma
Sulle, sest sa oled lihtsalt minu suurim tunne
Minu suurim õnn siin ilmas suurim õnnetunne
Rändand kogu elu justkui tühjas veeta kõrbes
Raske tunda raske mõelda
mis kandis mind su juurde
Oled kastepärleist kirjutatud kauneim luule
Mu südamesse kirjutatud kõige kauneim tunne
Tundub justkui oleks näinud lihtsalt und ma
Kuidas elan hingan tunnen kui sa mu juures
Sinu armastuse maagia imeliseim tunne
Täiustab mu iga väikest õnnelikku päeva
Lihtsalt täiustab mu iga imelist päeva
Lihtsalt täiustab mu iga õnnelikku päeva
Kas tead, kas sa tead
kuidas armastan ma
kuidas sind armastan ma
Sulle, sest sa oled lihtsalt minu suurim tunne
Minu suurim õnn siin ilmas suurim õnnetunne
Sulle, kes sa oled päike minu igas päevas
Minu ingel, kuu ja tähed, minu õnnelaegas
Mu südamesse oled kirjutatud sa kui luule
seistes sinu kõrval raske mõelda iial muule
Sulle, sest sa oled lihtsalt minu suurim tunne
Minu suurim õnn siin ilmas suurim õnnetunne
Kas tead, kas sa tead
kuidas armastan ma
kuidas sind armastan ma
Kas sa tead, kas sa tead
kuidas armastan ma
kuidas sind armastan ma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsyxl1Z9DaE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsyxl1Z9DaE
25 October 2015 14:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
et tagasi minnes... sammu paar..
Päev õhtuks pöörab
Saab tänasest möödunud aeg
Tumedam veelgi
On värv meie pööningulael
Aegajalt näib
et Armastus Surmaga käekõrval käib
On hetki mil näib
Et kõik, mis sa suudad,
on korraga läind´
Kus kulgeb kuu, kulgeb kuu
On öö noor kui peatud Sa
Kus kulgeb kuu, kulgeb kuu
Kas kuuled mind, ma ei tea.
Silm kinni vajub,
Ka siis kui ei olegi und.
Külm sisse murrab
Mis sest et ei sajagi lund
Aegajalt näib
et Armastus Surmaga käekõrval käib
On hetki mil näib
Et kõik, mis sa suudad,
on korraga läind´
Kus kulgeb kuu, kulgeb kuu
On öö noor kui peatud Sa
Kus kulgeb kuu, kulgeb kuu
Kas kuuled mind, ma ei tea.
Kus kulgeb kuu, kulgeb kuu
On öö noor kui peatud Sa
Kus kulgeb kuu, kulgeb kuu
Kas kuuled mind, ma ei tea.
Kus kulgeb kuu, kulgeb kuu
On öö noor kui peatud Sa
Kus kulgeb kuu, kulgeb kuu
Kas kuuled mind, ma ei tea.
Kus kulgeb kuu, kulgeb kuu
On öö noor kui peatud Sa
Kus kulgeb kuu, kus kulgeb kuu.
Kas kuuled mind, ma ei tea.
ma ei tea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0uwoqE9tLw
Päev õhtuks pöörab
Saab tänasest möödunud aeg
Tumedam veelgi
On värv meie pööningulael
Aegajalt näib
et Armastus Surmaga käekõrval käib
On hetki mil näib
Et kõik, mis sa suudad,
on korraga läind´
Kus kulgeb kuu, kulgeb kuu
On öö noor kui peatud Sa
Kus kulgeb kuu, kulgeb kuu
Kas kuuled mind, ma ei tea.
Silm kinni vajub,
Ka siis kui ei olegi und.
Külm sisse murrab
Mis sest et ei sajagi lund
Aegajalt näib
et Armastus Surmaga käekõrval käib
On hetki mil näib
Et kõik, mis sa suudad,
on korraga läind´
Kus kulgeb kuu, kulgeb kuu
On öö noor kui peatud Sa
Kus kulgeb kuu, kulgeb kuu
Kas kuuled mind, ma ei tea.
Kus kulgeb kuu, kulgeb kuu
On öö noor kui peatud Sa
Kus kulgeb kuu, kulgeb kuu
Kas kuuled mind, ma ei tea.
Kus kulgeb kuu, kulgeb kuu
On öö noor kui peatud Sa
Kus kulgeb kuu, kulgeb kuu
Kas kuuled mind, ma ei tea.
Kus kulgeb kuu, kulgeb kuu
On öö noor kui peatud Sa
Kus kulgeb kuu, kus kulgeb kuu.
Kas kuuled mind, ma ei tea.
ma ei tea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0uwoqE9tLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0uwoqE9tLw
25 October 2015 14:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Üheltpoolt on rõõm ja ilu, valu... vaprus, trall ja ...
25 October 2015 14:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
...aga.. liiga vara aga..
Minu silmad on vaikusse uinunud foorid
Minu juusteks on magus ja lämmatav suits
Minu käteks on kõnnitee katkised kivid
Minu hingeks on tukslev ja veritsev linn
Vaata, ma kukun end katki
Vaata, ma kukun, kas näed?
Vaata, ma kukun teist läbi
Kas te tõesti ei kuule mu häält?
Vaata, ma kõnnin siin serval
Vaata, ma komistan pea
Kukun siit tuhandeks killuks
Kui keegi mind püüda ei tea
Tahan süstida arutut armastust veeni
tahan hingata surmavat mürki su suult
võiksin lõhkuda kõik oma unenäod pilpaiks
võiksin jooksta kui tõbine peni kesk tuult
Vaata, ma kukun end katki
Vaata, ma kukun, kas näed?
Vaata, ma kukun teist läbi
Kas te tõesti ei kuule mu häält?
Vaata, ma kõnnin siin serval
Vaata, ma komistan pea
Kukun siit tuhandeks killuks
Ja keegi mind püüda ei tea
Palun võtke mu mõranend armastus vastu
see on üksinda taluda natuke liig
laske vihm peseb puhtaks mu unenäovärvid
las see vikerkaar kõiki meid ära siit viib
Vaata, ma kukun end katki
Vaata, ma kukun, kas näed?
Vaata, ma kukun teist läbi
Kas te tõesti ei kuule mu häält?
Vaata, ma kõnnin siin serval
Vaata, ma komistan pea
Kukun siit tuhandeks killuks
Ja keegi mind püüda ei tea
Ja keegi mind püüda ei tea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62RgsZMFUW0
Minu silmad on vaikusse uinunud foorid
Minu juusteks on magus ja lämmatav suits
Minu käteks on kõnnitee katkised kivid
Minu hingeks on tukslev ja veritsev linn
Vaata, ma kukun end katki
Vaata, ma kukun, kas näed?
Vaata, ma kukun teist läbi
Kas te tõesti ei kuule mu häält?
Vaata, ma kõnnin siin serval
Vaata, ma komistan pea
Kukun siit tuhandeks killuks
Kui keegi mind püüda ei tea
Tahan süstida arutut armastust veeni
tahan hingata surmavat mürki su suult
võiksin lõhkuda kõik oma unenäod pilpaiks
võiksin jooksta kui tõbine peni kesk tuult
Vaata, ma kukun end katki
Vaata, ma kukun, kas näed?
Vaata, ma kukun teist läbi
Kas te tõesti ei kuule mu häält?
Vaata, ma kõnnin siin serval
Vaata, ma komistan pea
Kukun siit tuhandeks killuks
Ja keegi mind püüda ei tea
Palun võtke mu mõranend armastus vastu
see on üksinda taluda natuke liig
laske vihm peseb puhtaks mu unenäovärvid
las see vikerkaar kõiki meid ära siit viib
Vaata, ma kukun end katki
Vaata, ma kukun, kas näed?
Vaata, ma kukun teist läbi
Kas te tõesti ei kuule mu häält?
Vaata, ma kõnnin siin serval
Vaata, ma komistan pea
Kukun siit tuhandeks killuks
Ja keegi mind püüda ei tea
Ja keegi mind püüda ei tea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62RgsZMFUW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62RgsZMFUW0
25 October 2015 14:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
..Flöödilt edasi.. kasvõi seda mida näed suunas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Von99b5Fs
http://182608.edicypages.com/kuula-vaata/albumid/ema-opetus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Von99b5Fs
http://182608.edicypages.com/kuula-vaata/albumid/ema-opetus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Von99b5Fs
25 October 2015 14:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siis viisin tamme peiu õue, Istutasin peiu iluksi, Kasvatasin peiu kasuksi. Siis läksin varsi vaatama, Kas tamm on jõudnud, tamm on kas’nud?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNZ6BQboUm4
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suur_härg_(Oort)
http://dea.digar.ee/cgi-bin/dea?a=d&d=raplamaasonumid20150916.2.8.4&e=------201-et-10--1--txt-txTA-%2522Laulukarussell+2015%2522-----Laulukarussell+2015---1-
Pärimus on meie kõigi oma ja meie ühine võimalus on see taas ellu äratada, tuua ta arhiivist koju, teha ta osaks enda identiteedist, teda edasi kanda ja talle uusi väljundeid anda. Meie ühine võimalus on luua algatusi selleks, et Raplamaa pärimus elaks.
" Tamm on jõudnud, tamm on kas’nud, Tamm on kas’nud taeva alla, Oksad otseti meresse, Lehed laia laenetesse...." (Rapla)
Mari Tammar "Pärimuses elamine on protsess ja eluviis."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNZ6BQboUm4
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suur_härg_(Oort)
http://dea.digar.ee/cgi-bin/dea?a=d&d=raplamaasonumid20150916.2.8.4&e=------201-et-10--1--txt-txTA-%2522Laulukarussell+2015%2522-----Laulukarussell+2015---1-
Pärimus on meie kõigi oma ja meie ühine võimalus on see taas ellu äratada, tuua ta arhiivist koju, teha ta osaks enda identiteedist, teda edasi kanda ja talle uusi väljundeid anda. Meie ühine võimalus on luua algatusi selleks, et Raplamaa pärimus elaks.
" Tamm on jõudnud, tamm on kas’nud, Tamm on kas’nud taeva alla, Oksad otseti meresse, Lehed laia laenetesse...." (Rapla)
Mari Tammar "Pärimuses elamine on protsess ja eluviis."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNZ6BQboUm4
25 October 2015 14:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ehk see pole see maru mis saadeti armuvalus..
päike paistis ja aed oli haljas
nüüd on murtud, kõik metsik ja must
nüüd on kõle kõik juurteni paljas
paljas valu vaid ja istu uus
oli korras kõik siis tuli maru
murdis taimed ja tühjaks jäi aed
kallis naine te saage must aru
pole käes meie armude aeg
naine oodake oodake veidi
las ma rohitsen kõigepealt teed
teie niikaua triikige kleidid
välja valige prossid ja keed
naine oodake oodake ainult
puud las rohitsen lilledki seon
laotan laiali aasad ja vainud
sääl siis teemegi teiega peo
rohkeid tõotusi sõnuda teile
tõesti tahaksin
aga ei saa
päike soojendas maailma eile
täna maru on rüüstanud maa
on rüüstanud maa
MARU ON RÜÜSTANUD MAA
südant kinkida pole mul südant
praegu vajab mu armastust muld
naine teil pole minuga vedand
aeg on üles harida muld
harida muld
AEG ON HARIDA MULD
päike paistis ja ilm oli ilus
tulvil lõhnasid ja rohelust
nüüd vaid vähesed taimed on elus
kõik on murtud ja metsik ja must
aias vohavad tühjus ja valu
elu viinud on siit tulvaveed
kui te suudate oodake palun
kui ei suuda heh eks minge head teed
HEAD TEED
südant kinkida pole mul südant
praegu vajab mu armastust muld
naine heh teil pole minuga vedand
aeg on üles harida muld
on harida muld
AEG ON HARIDA MULD
aeg, aeg on harida muld
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANt0dKQr4h4
päike paistis ja aed oli haljas
nüüd on murtud, kõik metsik ja must
nüüd on kõle kõik juurteni paljas
paljas valu vaid ja istu uus
oli korras kõik siis tuli maru
murdis taimed ja tühjaks jäi aed
kallis naine te saage must aru
pole käes meie armude aeg
naine oodake oodake veidi
las ma rohitsen kõigepealt teed
teie niikaua triikige kleidid
välja valige prossid ja keed
naine oodake oodake ainult
puud las rohitsen lilledki seon
laotan laiali aasad ja vainud
sääl siis teemegi teiega peo
rohkeid tõotusi sõnuda teile
tõesti tahaksin
aga ei saa
päike soojendas maailma eile
täna maru on rüüstanud maa
on rüüstanud maa
MARU ON RÜÜSTANUD MAA
südant kinkida pole mul südant
praegu vajab mu armastust muld
naine teil pole minuga vedand
aeg on üles harida muld
harida muld
AEG ON HARIDA MULD
päike paistis ja ilm oli ilus
tulvil lõhnasid ja rohelust
nüüd vaid vähesed taimed on elus
kõik on murtud ja metsik ja must
aias vohavad tühjus ja valu
elu viinud on siit tulvaveed
kui te suudate oodake palun
kui ei suuda heh eks minge head teed
HEAD TEED
südant kinkida pole mul südant
praegu vajab mu armastust muld
naine heh teil pole minuga vedand
aeg on üles harida muld
on harida muld
AEG ON HARIDA MULD
aeg, aeg on harida muld
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANt0dKQr4h4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANt0dKQr4h4
25 October 2015 14:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
peaaegu kosmosesse.. kuid siis peagi maale tagasi... kus jured
Kus on su kodu, võõras mees?
Kus on su kodu, võõras mees?
Sealpool linnuteed.
Sealpool linnuteed.
Sealpool linnuteed.
Sealpool linnuteed.
Kus on su vennad, võõras mees?
Kus on su vennad, võõras mees?
Kus on su lapsed, võõras mees?
Kus on su lapsed, võõras mees?
Sealpool linnuteed. 4x
On seal valgust, võõras mees?
On seal valgust, võõras mees?
On seal soojust, võõras mees?
On seal soojust, võõras mees?
On, väikene mees.
On, väikene mees.
On, väikene mees.
On, väikene mees.
On seal kurjust, võõras mees?
On seal kurjust, võõras mees?
On seal nuttu, võõras mees?
On seal nuttu, võõras mees?
Ei, väikene mees
Ei, väikene mees.
Ei, väikene mees.
Ei, väikene mees.
Võta mind kaasa, võõras mees.
Võta mind kaasa, võõras mees.
Ei, sõbrake hea.
Ei, sõbrake hea.
Ei, sõbrake hea.
Ei, sõbrake hea.
Võta mind kaasa, võõras mees.
Võta mind kaasa, võõras mees.
Võta mind kaasa, võõras mees.
Võta mind kaasa, võõras mees.
kaasa võtma = to take with sealpool = on the other side
kurjus = cruelty valgus = light
linnutee = Milky Way võõras = strange, unknown
nutt = crying (tears)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pADziBdbCpk
http://enagueesti.ee/vooras-mees-2/
Kus on su kodu, võõras mees?
Kus on su kodu, võõras mees?
Sealpool linnuteed.
Sealpool linnuteed.
Sealpool linnuteed.
Sealpool linnuteed.
Kus on su vennad, võõras mees?
Kus on su vennad, võõras mees?
Kus on su lapsed, võõras mees?
Kus on su lapsed, võõras mees?
Sealpool linnuteed. 4x
On seal valgust, võõras mees?
On seal valgust, võõras mees?
On seal soojust, võõras mees?
On seal soojust, võõras mees?
On, väikene mees.
On, väikene mees.
On, väikene mees.
On, väikene mees.
On seal kurjust, võõras mees?
On seal kurjust, võõras mees?
On seal nuttu, võõras mees?
On seal nuttu, võõras mees?
Ei, väikene mees
Ei, väikene mees.
Ei, väikene mees.
Ei, väikene mees.
Võta mind kaasa, võõras mees.
Võta mind kaasa, võõras mees.
Ei, sõbrake hea.
Ei, sõbrake hea.
Ei, sõbrake hea.
Ei, sõbrake hea.
Võta mind kaasa, võõras mees.
Võta mind kaasa, võõras mees.
Võta mind kaasa, võõras mees.
Võta mind kaasa, võõras mees.
kaasa võtma = to take with sealpool = on the other side
kurjus = cruelty valgus = light
linnutee = Milky Way võõras = strange, unknown
nutt = crying (tears)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pADziBdbCpk
http://enagueesti.ee/vooras-mees-2/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pADziBdbCpk
25 October 2015 14:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
,:Meil on elu keset metsa:,:
:,:Keset puid ja põõsaid,
keset sammalt ja lilli.
Meil on elu keset metsa:,:
:,:Meil on mitu oksa:,:
:,:Aga tüvi see tõuseb taeva poole,
aga tüvi tõuseb sinitaeva sisse:,:
:,:Meil on elu keset metsa:,:
:,:Aga süda see laulab päikse poole,
aga süda lulab kuldse päikse poole:,:
:,:Meil on elu keset metsa:,:
:,:Aga seda me teame, et siniseks taevaks saame,
sest süda laulab kuldse päikse poole:,:
:,:Meil on elu keset metsa:,:
Keset puid ja põõsaid,
keset sammalt ja lilli.
Meil on elu keset metsa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwN752jNjKA
:,:Keset puid ja põõsaid,
keset sammalt ja lilli.
Meil on elu keset metsa:,:
:,:Meil on mitu oksa:,:
:,:Aga tüvi see tõuseb taeva poole,
aga tüvi tõuseb sinitaeva sisse:,:
:,:Meil on elu keset metsa:,:
:,:Aga süda see laulab päikse poole,
aga süda lulab kuldse päikse poole:,:
:,:Meil on elu keset metsa:,:
:,:Aga seda me teame, et siniseks taevaks saame,
sest süda laulab kuldse päikse poole:,:
:,:Meil on elu keset metsa:,:
Keset puid ja põõsaid,
keset sammalt ja lilli.
Meil on elu keset metsa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwN752jNjKA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwN752jNjKA
25 October 2015 13:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ma juba ammu arvand end olema suts puine,
Sa vaatasid mind
Õhk hingamise puhus minuni
Mu juuste alt paljastus rind
Valge kleidi sa rohust näppasid
Kaskede vahel su nägemist nägin
Päike kuivatas alasti keha
Sa ei mõista mis valesti tegid
Haldja tantsu piiluda ei tohi, ei tohi, ei tohi, ei tohi
Läbi tuulte ma keereldes tantsin tantsin tantsin tantsin
Mu laulust kajavad puude ladvad, ladvad, ladvad, ladvad
Kuid sina kes metsas sa seisid, seisid, seisid, seisid
Nüüd seal samas sa kasena kasvad, kasvad, kasvad, kasvad
Kasvad.
Sa jälgisid mind
Su erutuse tõi minuni tuul
Kuid karistuseks jääb mulle su hing
Ja kehast saab metsa kauneim puu
Läbi tuulte ma keereldes tantsin, tantsin, tantsin, tantsin
Mu laulust kajavad puude ladvad, ladvad, ladvad, ladvad
Kuid mees kes piilus haldjatantsu, tantsu, tantsu, tantsu
Nüüd seal samas ta kasena kasvab kasvab kasvab
kasvab...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqj8KE4XxLs
Sa vaatasid mind
Õhk hingamise puhus minuni
Mu juuste alt paljastus rind
Valge kleidi sa rohust näppasid
Kaskede vahel su nägemist nägin
Päike kuivatas alasti keha
Sa ei mõista mis valesti tegid
Haldja tantsu piiluda ei tohi, ei tohi, ei tohi, ei tohi
Läbi tuulte ma keereldes tantsin tantsin tantsin tantsin
Mu laulust kajavad puude ladvad, ladvad, ladvad, ladvad
Kuid sina kes metsas sa seisid, seisid, seisid, seisid
Nüüd seal samas sa kasena kasvad, kasvad, kasvad, kasvad
Kasvad.
Sa jälgisid mind
Su erutuse tõi minuni tuul
Kuid karistuseks jääb mulle su hing
Ja kehast saab metsa kauneim puu
Läbi tuulte ma keereldes tantsin, tantsin, tantsin, tantsin
Mu laulust kajavad puude ladvad, ladvad, ladvad, ladvad
Kuid mees kes piilus haldjatantsu, tantsu, tantsu, tantsu
Nüüd seal samas ta kasena kasvab kasvab kasvab
kasvab...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqj8KE4XxLs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqj8KE4XxLs
25 October 2015 13:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1.
Vihmana ma sajan, vihmana ma sajan aeda.
Tuulena ma lendan, tuulena ma lendan ringi
Vihmana ma sajan, vihmana ma sajan aeda.
Tuulena ma lendan, tuulena ma lendan ringi Sinu öös...
Ref.:
Olen kuu.Olen kuu.Olen kuu.Olen kuu.
2. Tulena ma kannan, tulena ma kannan jõudu.
Kastena ma emban, kastena ma emban jalgu.
Tulena ma kannan, tulena ma kannan jõudu.
Kastena ma emban, kastena ma emban jalgu Sinu öös...
Ref.: Olen kuu ...
3.Järvena ma vaatan, järvena ma vaatan üles.
Taevana kuulan, taevana kuulan alla.
Järvena ma vaatan, järvena ma vaatan üles.
Taevana kuulan, taevana kuulan alla Sinu öös...
Ref.: Olen kuu ...
4.Mäena ma vaikin, mäena ma vaikin paljust.
Merena ma randun, merena ma randun õue.
Mäena ma vaikin, mäena ma vaikin paljust.
Merena ma randun, merena ma randun õue Sinu öös...
Ref.: Olen kuu ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzCph6oY-UY
Vihmana ma sajan, vihmana ma sajan aeda.
Tuulena ma lendan, tuulena ma lendan ringi
Vihmana ma sajan, vihmana ma sajan aeda.
Tuulena ma lendan, tuulena ma lendan ringi Sinu öös...
Ref.:
Olen kuu.Olen kuu.Olen kuu.Olen kuu.
2. Tulena ma kannan, tulena ma kannan jõudu.
Kastena ma emban, kastena ma emban jalgu.
Tulena ma kannan, tulena ma kannan jõudu.
Kastena ma emban, kastena ma emban jalgu Sinu öös...
Ref.: Olen kuu ...
3.Järvena ma vaatan, järvena ma vaatan üles.
Taevana kuulan, taevana kuulan alla.
Järvena ma vaatan, järvena ma vaatan üles.
Taevana kuulan, taevana kuulan alla Sinu öös...
Ref.: Olen kuu ...
4.Mäena ma vaikin, mäena ma vaikin paljust.
Merena ma randun, merena ma randun õue.
Mäena ma vaikin, mäena ma vaikin paljust.
Merena ma randun, merena ma randun õue Sinu öös...
Ref.: Olen kuu ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzCph6oY-UY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzCph6oY-UY
25 October 2015 13:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aga vb selle pärast, et ma isiklikult tunnen väga väheseid nõidu lähemalt
25 October 2015 13:21
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sorry, suts selfikas ka ja siis.. :p
24 October 2015 16:34
Margus Meigo commented on Kerstin Uibos's photo.
Kuid noh, ju vast enamasti ei küsita, sest käitumine ja olek pole nagu teismelisel päris elus, kuid Su maise kingituse põhjal, välimusega.. võib vabalt nii arvata
24 October 2015 16:32
Margus Meigo commented on Kerstin Uibos's photo.
oih.. mõtlesin et 16+..
Sul küsitakse endiselt veel ID kui täiskasvanute mürke ostad?
Suht huumor ses osas.. küsib dokumenti ja siis ütled, et sa 5 lapse ema...
Sul küsitakse endiselt veel ID kui täiskasvanute mürke ostad?
Suht huumor ses osas.. küsib dokumenti ja siis ütled, et sa 5 lapse ema...
24 October 2015 16:31
Margus Meigo commented on Kerstin Uibos's photo.
Wau, ja kui noor Sa siin olid ? Väga noor tundud..
24 October 2015 16:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.
Mis maailmas "need noored" muidu elavad, mõtlen ma,
Kas nad õunapuude pookimist on mõelnud õppida
ja aretada seemne ning seene kasvatust oma sõbra laste tarvis?
Mis maailmas "need noored" muidu elavad, mõtlen ma,
Kas nad õunapuude pookimist on mõelnud õppida
ja aretada seemne ning seene kasvatust oma sõbra laste tarvis?
24 October 2015 14:38
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
" Love is in food digestion "
or rather, "Love goes by the stomach"
or rather, "Love goes by the stomach"
24 October 2015 14:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
24 October 2015 13:24
Margus Meigo replied to David Dickson's comment.
at least someone noticed :p
24 October 2015 13:11
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Kõikumatus usus ja vankumatus tahtes Põhiseaduse kaitsel
red hooligans23 October 2015 21:47
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Kõikumatus usus ja vankumatus tahtes Põhiseaduse kaitsel
hooligans, not muslims23 October 2015 21:47
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Meldre's comment.
peab uurima, ehk on miskeid uuringuid, mis näitavad, et inimene suudab maailma võtta siis adekvaatsemana, on parem loodus tunnetamisel ja suhetes kui nad on sportlased,
mingil teatud aladel
Kuid suures plaanis, see spordi asi on jah, suts nagu müstika mu silmis, et kuidas sellele niipalju, hirmuäratavalt palju tähelepanu pööratakse tavameedias
hõlmab peaaegu 10-15% uudistest vahest,
Uudised kuidas keegi jooksis või viskas palli paremini või tegi muid lapse mänge kiiremini , kui keegi eelmine, isegi ku isee aint paar sekundit rohkem on...
Kuidas see kasulikus siin praktiaks inimliigile tuleb?
mingil teatud aladel
Kuid suures plaanis, see spordi asi on jah, suts nagu müstika mu silmis, et kuidas sellele niipalju, hirmuäratavalt palju tähelepanu pööratakse tavameedias
hõlmab peaaegu 10-15% uudistest vahest,
Uudised kuidas keegi jooksis või viskas palli paremini või tegi muid lapse mänge kiiremini , kui keegi eelmine, isegi ku isee aint paar sekundit rohkem on...
Kuidas see kasulikus siin praktiaks inimliigile tuleb?
23 October 2015 21:46
Margus Meigo replied to Toomas Meldre's comment.
MIs asi see sportlase nägu on? : P
Et nagu inimliigina võttes... et kuidas see sportlus üldse sisse kuhugi mahub kui mingi tegevus või ala mis evolutsiooniliselt tönapäeval oma sellises vormis ja kasutamises nagu ta on, et milleks see sport ikka on...
ja siis sellega seoses, milline see sportlase nägu on
Et nagu inimliigina võttes... et kuidas see sportlus üldse sisse kuhugi mahub kui mingi tegevus või ala mis evolutsiooniliselt tönapäeval oma sellises vormis ja kasutamises nagu ta on, et milleks see sport ikka on...
ja siis sellega seoses, milline see sportlase nägu on
23 October 2015 21:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i mean, Dallas
23 October 2015 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Who would have thought there is more then one Tecno Lee in The University of Texas at Austin
23 October 2015 14:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
23 October 2015 14:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Maybe is the guy, have to look up from a business card,
was proceuguated heavy n Texas as we heard
www.scale-able.com / https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/cyber-dust/9wzdncrdbw09
was proceuguated heavy n Texas as we heard
www.scale-able.com / https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/cyber-dust/9wzdncrdbw09
http://www.scale-able.com/
23 October 2015 14:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
and someone in franc and some in Germany perhaps also using more different GUI, weeb view, what they see on screen, and Germans see cleaner GUI or screen, focused more on this what is needed, in every separate window, franc more many links on one screen that go to more places
23 October 2015 14:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
someone in Texas maybe, in basich sand yellow backround message board
23 October 2015 14:07
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I can imagine, for example, Rasta culture computer GUIi wuld be a bit neon greenish, dark, and a bit of lickery and bling or nice pussy-boobs plant picture reminders here and there
23 October 2015 14:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I not think so, that pentagram should be the core or any component of the Nordic people logo,
unless, it really is them who is the second major contribute of holding ROmans-RUssians alive, aka Wikings, keeping bad alive by provading proper mobs
unless, it really is them who is the second major contribute of holding ROmans-RUssians alive, aka Wikings, keeping bad alive by provading proper mobs
23 October 2015 14:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
But You like more Niggerdom or EÜS Põhjala type of vibe in the computer?
Or what culture, based on their way, would make best GUI ?
Or what culture, based on their way, would make best GUI ?
23 October 2015 14:03
Margus Meigo commented on Gleb Plekhanov's post.
Dark is more energy efficient,
23 October 2015 14:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
23 October 2015 13:57
Margus Meigo commented on Arne Türkson's photo.
Et kelle nimel
23 October 2015 13:47
Margus Meigo commented on Arne Türkson's photo.
Ma mõtlesin, et ta ikka oma Naise nime hoiab sedasi
23 October 2015 13:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
23 October 2015 04:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Jhon Henry Westons
elab veel , wist, Communities Foundation of Texas
elab veel , wist, Communities Foundation of Texas
23 October 2015 04:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
one of them is royal, no?
23 October 2015 04:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
23 October 2015 03:59
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
vähemalt tegid nad midagi produktiivsemat see ohtu
21 October 2015 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
We will see that, about that guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-2j5Lvs2o4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-2j5Lvs2o4
21 October 2015 19:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The New Message from God claims that aliens are on Earth to take advantage of imminent, global environmental collapse: "Humanity is now facing competition from beyond the world, intervention from races beyond the world who seek to take advantage of a weak and divided humanity, who seek to benefit from the decline of human civilization."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Vian_Summers
Marshall Vian Summers is the central figure among a movement calling itself the Worldwide Community of people of the New Message from God. His seminal books constitute the beliefs of this new religious movement and are categorized as warnings of extreme change and outside threat, spiritual blessing and preparation. He is perhaps best known for his Allies of Humanity trilogy.
Summers asserts he has spent thousands of hours of direct contact with "Unseen Ones," whom he portrays as an angelic presence assigned to watch over the Earth, with transcriptions of their communication. These transcriptions amassing greater than 9,000 pages comprise the self-described "New Message from God," which posits a time of impending dire crisis for humanity—on the threshold of emergence into a highly competitive Greater Community of intelligent life, yet socially dissolute and environmentally compromised
"I am not a guru, saint or avatar. I am a messenger with a vital message for the people of the world. I have come to speak about the reality of life in the Greater Community and the greater spiritual understanding we must cultivate if we are to advance and remain free in the presence of greater forces within our midst. This is why I am here and this is what I have to teach"
--
The New Message from God, a new religious movement from the United States, originates from the teachings and pronouncements of Summers, who is called "The Messenger. Summers and his adherents represent that he is a prophet on the order of the Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad] in receipt of a revelation over a period of 30 years[14] which he has recorded on tape and which, transcribed, approaches ten thousand pages.Key components of this 'revelation', attributed to 'divine sources',] include warnings of an incursion upon Earth called the Intervention[] and pronouncements about the future involving global upheaval[and interaction between the human race and extraterrestrials which, Summers claims, are representatives of "the Greater Community".[
To promote this 'revelation', Summers, in 1992, founded The Society for The Greater Community Way of Knowledge, trading as The Society for the New Message from God, a 501(c)(3) religious non-profit organization which is both publisher of Summers' books and recordings and a religious order. The New Message Sanctuary in Boulder, Colorado, USA, a gathering place for The Society, broadcasts services via the Internet and since 2012, has presented its materials online as part of a free school claiming 2118 participants from 100 nations.
--
Of Summers' books, twelve are commercially available and three more are available directly from his organization, which plans to produce his entire body of work in a multi-volume set, of which Vol.1, Book 1, God Has Spoken Again has been published in 21 languages.
With the exception of The Allies of Humanity books,] Summers claims that his writings come through him from a divine source; they are first spoken and recorded, then transcribed and published
--
Steps to Knowledge: the Book of Inner Knowing (1990). ISBN 978-1-884238-18-5
Wisdom from the Greater Community, Vol. 1: How to Live With Certainty, Strength & Wisdom in an Emerging World (1990). ISBN 978-1-884238-11-6
Wisdom from the Greater Community, Vol. 2: How to Find Purpose, Meaning and Direction in an Emerging World (1993). ISBN 978-1-884238-12-3
Greater Community Spirituality: a New Revelation (1998). ISBN 978-1-884238-21-5
The Allies of Humanity: an Urgent Message About the Extraterrestrial Presence in the World Today (2001). ISBN 978-1-884238-44-4
The Allies of Humanity, Book 2: Human Unity, Freedom and the Hidden Reality of Contact (2005). ISBN 978-1-884238-35-2
The Great Waves of Change: Navigating the Difficult Times Ahead (2009). ISBN 978-1-884238-60-4; 2009 Finalist for Foreword Magazine's Book of the Year: Body, Mind & Spirit
The Allies of Humanity Book 3: A Message to Earth (2012). ISBN 978-1-884238-38-3
Life in the Universe (2012). ISBN 978-1884238499
Secrets of Heaven (2013) ISBN 978-1-884238-16-1; 2013 Finalist for Foreword Magazine's Book of the Year: Body, Mind & Spirit
God Has Spoken Again (2015) [Volume 1, Book 1 of The New Message from God]
Pre-publication
The following books are available exclusively from the publisher, New Knowledge Library:
Relationships and Higher Purpose[26]
Living the Way of Knowledge: Building the Foundation for Becoming a Man or Woman of Knowledge in an Emerging World
Steps to Knowledge Continuation Training(1998) ISBN 978-1-884238-83-3 (after two complete cycles of the first level of training)
Online writings and recordings
The Society for the New Message from God has made the following books available online at no cost. In English:
Life in the Universe[27]
The Great Waves of Change[28]
Steps to Knowledge[29]
The Allies of Humanity[30]
Greater Community Spirituality[31]
God Has Spoken Again'[32]
Many more of the New Message from God teachings are online, both in written form and as the original audio recordings, and are available as both streaming and downloadable media free of charge.[33] In these recordings, the alleged Angelic Presence can be heard speaking through Marshall Vian Summers.[34]
The Society's frequent webcasts are also available online in streaming video format.[35]
Translations
The New Message has been translated into 22 languages including Arabic, Chines, Danish, Dutch, Farsi, Finnish, French, Greek, Hungarian, Indonesian, Italian, Kiswahili, Korean, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Russian, Serbian, Spanish, Swedish and Turkish.[36]
The Allies of Humanity in French, Russian, Spanish, Swedish, German, Portuguese, Korean, Italian, Chinese, Polish, Dutch, Hungarian, Romanian and Greek.[37]
Steps to Knowledge in French, Spanish, Greek, Italian, German, Chinese, Farsi, Portuguese and Swedish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Vian_Summers
Marshall Vian Summers is the central figure among a movement calling itself the Worldwide Community of people of the New Message from God. His seminal books constitute the beliefs of this new religious movement and are categorized as warnings of extreme change and outside threat, spiritual blessing and preparation. He is perhaps best known for his Allies of Humanity trilogy.
Summers asserts he has spent thousands of hours of direct contact with "Unseen Ones," whom he portrays as an angelic presence assigned to watch over the Earth, with transcriptions of their communication. These transcriptions amassing greater than 9,000 pages comprise the self-described "New Message from God," which posits a time of impending dire crisis for humanity—on the threshold of emergence into a highly competitive Greater Community of intelligent life, yet socially dissolute and environmentally compromised
"I am not a guru, saint or avatar. I am a messenger with a vital message for the people of the world. I have come to speak about the reality of life in the Greater Community and the greater spiritual understanding we must cultivate if we are to advance and remain free in the presence of greater forces within our midst. This is why I am here and this is what I have to teach"
--
The New Message from God, a new religious movement from the United States, originates from the teachings and pronouncements of Summers, who is called "The Messenger. Summers and his adherents represent that he is a prophet on the order of the Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad] in receipt of a revelation over a period of 30 years[14] which he has recorded on tape and which, transcribed, approaches ten thousand pages.Key components of this 'revelation', attributed to 'divine sources',] include warnings of an incursion upon Earth called the Intervention[] and pronouncements about the future involving global upheaval[and interaction between the human race and extraterrestrials which, Summers claims, are representatives of "the Greater Community".[
To promote this 'revelation', Summers, in 1992, founded The Society for The Greater Community Way of Knowledge, trading as The Society for the New Message from God, a 501(c)(3) religious non-profit organization which is both publisher of Summers' books and recordings and a religious order. The New Message Sanctuary in Boulder, Colorado, USA, a gathering place for The Society, broadcasts services via the Internet and since 2012, has presented its materials online as part of a free school claiming 2118 participants from 100 nations.
--
Of Summers' books, twelve are commercially available and three more are available directly from his organization, which plans to produce his entire body of work in a multi-volume set, of which Vol.1, Book 1, God Has Spoken Again has been published in 21 languages.
With the exception of The Allies of Humanity books,] Summers claims that his writings come through him from a divine source; they are first spoken and recorded, then transcribed and published
--
Steps to Knowledge: the Book of Inner Knowing (1990). ISBN 978-1-884238-18-5
Wisdom from the Greater Community, Vol. 1: How to Live With Certainty, Strength & Wisdom in an Emerging World (1990). ISBN 978-1-884238-11-6
Wisdom from the Greater Community, Vol. 2: How to Find Purpose, Meaning and Direction in an Emerging World (1993). ISBN 978-1-884238-12-3
Greater Community Spirituality: a New Revelation (1998). ISBN 978-1-884238-21-5
The Allies of Humanity: an Urgent Message About the Extraterrestrial Presence in the World Today (2001). ISBN 978-1-884238-44-4
The Allies of Humanity, Book 2: Human Unity, Freedom and the Hidden Reality of Contact (2005). ISBN 978-1-884238-35-2
The Great Waves of Change: Navigating the Difficult Times Ahead (2009). ISBN 978-1-884238-60-4; 2009 Finalist for Foreword Magazine's Book of the Year: Body, Mind & Spirit
The Allies of Humanity Book 3: A Message to Earth (2012). ISBN 978-1-884238-38-3
Life in the Universe (2012). ISBN 978-1884238499
Secrets of Heaven (2013) ISBN 978-1-884238-16-1; 2013 Finalist for Foreword Magazine's Book of the Year: Body, Mind & Spirit
God Has Spoken Again (2015) [Volume 1, Book 1 of The New Message from God]
Pre-publication
The following books are available exclusively from the publisher, New Knowledge Library:
Relationships and Higher Purpose[26]
Living the Way of Knowledge: Building the Foundation for Becoming a Man or Woman of Knowledge in an Emerging World
Steps to Knowledge Continuation Training(1998) ISBN 978-1-884238-83-3 (after two complete cycles of the first level of training)
Online writings and recordings
The Society for the New Message from God has made the following books available online at no cost. In English:
Life in the Universe[27]
The Great Waves of Change[28]
Steps to Knowledge[29]
The Allies of Humanity[30]
Greater Community Spirituality[31]
God Has Spoken Again'[32]
Many more of the New Message from God teachings are online, both in written form and as the original audio recordings, and are available as both streaming and downloadable media free of charge.[33] In these recordings, the alleged Angelic Presence can be heard speaking through Marshall Vian Summers.[34]
The Society's frequent webcasts are also available online in streaming video format.[35]
Translations
The New Message has been translated into 22 languages including Arabic, Chines, Danish, Dutch, Farsi, Finnish, French, Greek, Hungarian, Indonesian, Italian, Kiswahili, Korean, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Russian, Serbian, Spanish, Swedish and Turkish.[36]
The Allies of Humanity in French, Russian, Spanish, Swedish, German, Portuguese, Korean, Italian, Chinese, Polish, Dutch, Hungarian, Romanian and Greek.[37]
Steps to Knowledge in French, Spanish, Greek, Italian, German, Chinese, Farsi, Portuguese and Swedish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Vian_Summers
21 October 2015 19:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Typical aim, stile and direction:
"A New Zealand man is auctioning his soul in an internet auction. So far it’s hit $189US but still has not closed yet.
An attorney said that the winning bidder would not be entitled to anything but Scott's soul and would not be able to own or control him in any way.
Rael said “Of course the attorney is right. The winning bidder would not be entitled to anything ... as there is no "soul" as well as no "holy spirit” etc. The concept of selling one’s soul only makes sense in a supernatural context. In other words, a soul is a mystical concept which does not exist does not exist, eventually to be reunited with a god which does not exist and can only be sold to a devil which does not exist.”
The winning bidder will probably want its money back when science soon proves there is no such thing as a soul. ;-)... unless it is a religious organization tying to increase the number in its rank?"
http://raelianews.org/news.php?item.307.3
"A New Zealand man is auctioning his soul in an internet auction. So far it’s hit $189US but still has not closed yet.
An attorney said that the winning bidder would not be entitled to anything but Scott's soul and would not be able to own or control him in any way.
Rael said “Of course the attorney is right. The winning bidder would not be entitled to anything ... as there is no "soul" as well as no "holy spirit” etc. The concept of selling one’s soul only makes sense in a supernatural context. In other words, a soul is a mystical concept which does not exist does not exist, eventually to be reunited with a god which does not exist and can only be sold to a devil which does not exist.”
The winning bidder will probably want its money back when science soon proves there is no such thing as a soul. ;-)... unless it is a religious organization tying to increase the number in its rank?"
http://raelianews.org/news.php?item.307.3
http://raelianews.org/news.php?item.307.3
21 October 2015 19:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
it is not about if what is said is it true ,
But about what is said
But about what is said
21 October 2015 18:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Saudi Arabia
In this context, the journey to Russia by Prince Mohamad bin Salman, son of King Salman of Saudi Arabia, caused general consternation and a Press campaign suggesting that he hoped to negotiate the end of Russian aid to Syria. The visit came a week after the trip by the Director of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, Iyad bin Amin Madani. He was accompanied by several ministers and about thirty businessmen. The Saudi delegation participated in the Economic Forum in Saint Petersburg, where the Prince was received by President Vladimir Putin.
Since its creation, the Wahhabite kingdom has maintained privileged relations with the United States, and considered the Soviet Union, and then Russia, as adversaries. It seems that this is changing.
The considerable importance of the economic agreements and cooperation, which have been signed, initiate a new form of politics. Saudi Arabia has bought 19 nuclear power plants, agreed to participate in the Russian programme for space research, and also negotiated petrol agreements whose details have not yet been published.
To avoid any ambiguity about this reconciliation, President Putin said that Russia will make no modification to its support for Syria, and would assist any political solution which conforms to the wishes of the Syrian people. In previous statements, he has indicated that this implies the maintenance of President el-Assad until the end of the seven-year mandate for which he has been democratically elected.
The losers in this redistribution
Everything indicates that once the US-Iran agreements have been signed [3], the losers will be :
- The Palestinian people, who will be deprived of their inalienable right of return, for which three generations have been fighting ;
- Turkey, which may pay a high price for its hegemonic dream, its support for the Muslim Brotherhood, and its defeat in Syria [4] ;
- France, which, for the last four years has been struggling to re-establish its colonial interests in the region, and now finds itself, finally, as a simple supplier for Israël and Saudi Arabia
http://www.voltairenet.org/article187975.html
In this context, the journey to Russia by Prince Mohamad bin Salman, son of King Salman of Saudi Arabia, caused general consternation and a Press campaign suggesting that he hoped to negotiate the end of Russian aid to Syria. The visit came a week after the trip by the Director of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, Iyad bin Amin Madani. He was accompanied by several ministers and about thirty businessmen. The Saudi delegation participated in the Economic Forum in Saint Petersburg, where the Prince was received by President Vladimir Putin.
Since its creation, the Wahhabite kingdom has maintained privileged relations with the United States, and considered the Soviet Union, and then Russia, as adversaries. It seems that this is changing.
The considerable importance of the economic agreements and cooperation, which have been signed, initiate a new form of politics. Saudi Arabia has bought 19 nuclear power plants, agreed to participate in the Russian programme for space research, and also negotiated petrol agreements whose details have not yet been published.
To avoid any ambiguity about this reconciliation, President Putin said that Russia will make no modification to its support for Syria, and would assist any political solution which conforms to the wishes of the Syrian people. In previous statements, he has indicated that this implies the maintenance of President el-Assad until the end of the seven-year mandate for which he has been democratically elected.
The losers in this redistribution
Everything indicates that once the US-Iran agreements have been signed [3], the losers will be :
- The Palestinian people, who will be deprived of their inalienable right of return, for which three generations have been fighting ;
- Turkey, which may pay a high price for its hegemonic dream, its support for the Muslim Brotherhood, and its defeat in Syria [4] ;
- France, which, for the last four years has been struggling to re-establish its colonial interests in the region, and now finds itself, finally, as a simple supplier for Israël and Saudi Arabia
http://www.voltairenet.org/article187975.html
http://www.voltairenet.org/article187975.html
21 October 2015 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Palestine
The international recognition of a Palestinian state, in conformity with the Oslo agreements and according to the Arab Peace Initiative, will be the affair of only a few moths once the US-Iran agreements have been signed.
The Palestinian Unity Government, which has never really functioned, suddenly resigned. It seems certain that Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah will be largely supported by its people as soon as the Palestinian state enters the United Nations.
Hamas, which since 2008 has represented the Resistance, has suddenly discredited itself by officialising its membership of the Muslim Brotherhood (while the Brotherhood has attempted several coups d’etat in Saudi Arabia) and also by taking arms against the only state in the region which is effectively pro-Palestinian, the Syrian Arab Republic. Consequently, in order to clean up its image, it has decided to act with greater discretion and only support non-violent actions.
The recognition of the Palestinian state will put an end to the right of return of the Palestinians who were chased off their land, but will open a new status for them. The United States and Saudi Arabia will invest massively to develop the economy of the new state.
Already, several candidates are readying themselves to replace Mahmoud Abbas (who is 80 years old, and whose mandate expired in 2009). Among them is Mohammed Dahlan, the ex-head of security who is suspected of organising the poisoning of Yasser Arafat, and was obliged to leave the country in 2007. After having worked for the United Arab Emirates, he then obtained Montenegrin nationality – like the ex-Prime Minister of Thailand, Thaksin Shinawatra - and also Serbian nationality. He returned to Palestine in February with the help of his old adversaries from Hamas. Having become a billionaire, he bought combattants and election voices hand over fist. A more serious candidate could be Marouane Barghouti, who is presently purging five life sentences in an Israëli prison, and who could be freed within the framework of the peace agreement. He is in fact the only uncorrupted Palestinian personnality to have so far escaped the Mossad killers.
The international recognition of a Palestinian state, in conformity with the Oslo agreements and according to the Arab Peace Initiative, will be the affair of only a few moths once the US-Iran agreements have been signed.
The Palestinian Unity Government, which has never really functioned, suddenly resigned. It seems certain that Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah will be largely supported by its people as soon as the Palestinian state enters the United Nations.
Hamas, which since 2008 has represented the Resistance, has suddenly discredited itself by officialising its membership of the Muslim Brotherhood (while the Brotherhood has attempted several coups d’etat in Saudi Arabia) and also by taking arms against the only state in the region which is effectively pro-Palestinian, the Syrian Arab Republic. Consequently, in order to clean up its image, it has decided to act with greater discretion and only support non-violent actions.
The recognition of the Palestinian state will put an end to the right of return of the Palestinians who were chased off their land, but will open a new status for them. The United States and Saudi Arabia will invest massively to develop the economy of the new state.
Already, several candidates are readying themselves to replace Mahmoud Abbas (who is 80 years old, and whose mandate expired in 2009). Among them is Mohammed Dahlan, the ex-head of security who is suspected of organising the poisoning of Yasser Arafat, and was obliged to leave the country in 2007. After having worked for the United Arab Emirates, he then obtained Montenegrin nationality – like the ex-Prime Minister of Thailand, Thaksin Shinawatra - and also Serbian nationality. He returned to Palestine in February with the help of his old adversaries from Hamas. Having become a billionaire, he bought combattants and election voices hand over fist. A more serious candidate could be Marouane Barghouti, who is presently purging five life sentences in an Israëli prison, and who could be freed within the framework of the peace agreement. He is in fact the only uncorrupted Palestinian personnality to have so far escaped the Mossad killers.
21 October 2015 18:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Israël and Saudi Arabia have reached agreement on several objectives.
On the political level :
- To « democratise » the Gulf States, in other words, to associate the people in the management of their countries, while affirming the intangibility of the the monarchy and the Wahhabite way of life ; To change the political system in Iran (and no longer wage war on Iran) ;
- To create an independent Kurdistan in such a way as to weaken Iran, Turkey (despite the fact that it is a long-standing ally of Israël), and Iraq (but not Syria, which is already seriously weakened).
On the economic level :
- To exploit the Rub’al-Khali oil-fields and organise a federation between Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and perhaps Oman and the United Arab Emirates ;
- To exploit the Ogaden oil-fields, under Ethiopian control, secure the Yemeni port of Aden, and build a bridge linking Djibouti and Yemen.
In other words, while Tel-Aviv and Riyadh are making the best of a bad deal, and accepting that two thirds of Iraq, Syria, and half of Lebanon will be controlled by Iran, they intend :
- To ensure that Iran gives up on the exportation of its revolution ;
- To control the rest of the region by excluding Turkey, which took over from Saudi Arabia in the supervision of international terrorism, and has just lost in Syria.
On the political level :
- To « democratise » the Gulf States, in other words, to associate the people in the management of their countries, while affirming the intangibility of the the monarchy and the Wahhabite way of life ; To change the political system in Iran (and no longer wage war on Iran) ;
- To create an independent Kurdistan in such a way as to weaken Iran, Turkey (despite the fact that it is a long-standing ally of Israël), and Iraq (but not Syria, which is already seriously weakened).
On the economic level :
- To exploit the Rub’al-Khali oil-fields and organise a federation between Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and perhaps Oman and the United Arab Emirates ;
- To exploit the Ogaden oil-fields, under Ethiopian control, secure the Yemeni port of Aden, and build a bridge linking Djibouti and Yemen.
In other words, while Tel-Aviv and Riyadh are making the best of a bad deal, and accepting that two thirds of Iraq, Syria, and half of Lebanon will be controlled by Iran, they intend :
- To ensure that Iran gives up on the exportation of its revolution ;
- To control the rest of the region by excluding Turkey, which took over from Saudi Arabia in the supervision of international terrorism, and has just lost in Syria.
21 October 2015 18:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The reponse by Tel-Aviv and Riyadh to the US-Iran negotiations can be found in the extension of Saudi financing of the war against Gaza in 2008 – the alliance between a colonial state and an obscurantist monarchy. While the Near East is preparing for a ten-year change in the rules of the game, Thierry Meyssan reveals here the contents of the secret negotiations between Tel-Aviv and Riyadh."
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No-one in the Middle East seems to be aware that the secret agreements which should be signed on the 30th June 2015 by Washington and Teheran – on the fringe of the multilateral agreements concerning nuclear power – will probably set the rules of the game for the next ten years.
These agreements arrive at a moment when the United States have become the world’s first producers of petrol, ahead of Saudi Arabia and Russia. Consequently they do not need Middle-Eastern petrol for themselves, and are only interested in it as a means of maintaining the world market in dollars.
Besides this, Washington has begun to reposition the troops it has stationed in Western Europe and the Middle East to the Far East. This does not mean that it is abandoning these regions, but that it wishes to find another way of ensuring their security.
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since the announcement of the negotiations between Washington and Teheran, which have in fact been proceeding for the last 27 months), Tel-Aviv has been engaged in secret negotiations with Saudi Arabia. Extremely high-level delegations have met five times – in India, Italy and the Czech Republic.
The cooperation between Tel-Aviv and Riyadh is part of the US plan to create a « Common Arab Defence Force », under the auspices of the Arab League, but under Israeli command. This « Force » is already effective in Yemen, where Israeli pilots fly Saudi bombers within the framework of an Arab Coalition whose headquarters have been installed by the Israelis in Somaliland, a non-recognised state situated on the other side of the the Bab el-Mandeb straits [1].
However, Riyadh does not intend to officialise this cooperation as long as Tel-Aviv refuses the Arab Peace Initiative, presented to the Arab League in 2002 by Prince Abdullah before he became king
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No-one in the Middle East seems to be aware that the secret agreements which should be signed on the 30th June 2015 by Washington and Teheran – on the fringe of the multilateral agreements concerning nuclear power – will probably set the rules of the game for the next ten years.
These agreements arrive at a moment when the United States have become the world’s first producers of petrol, ahead of Saudi Arabia and Russia. Consequently they do not need Middle-Eastern petrol for themselves, and are only interested in it as a means of maintaining the world market in dollars.
Besides this, Washington has begun to reposition the troops it has stationed in Western Europe and the Middle East to the Far East. This does not mean that it is abandoning these regions, but that it wishes to find another way of ensuring their security.
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since the announcement of the negotiations between Washington and Teheran, which have in fact been proceeding for the last 27 months), Tel-Aviv has been engaged in secret negotiations with Saudi Arabia. Extremely high-level delegations have met five times – in India, Italy and the Czech Republic.
The cooperation between Tel-Aviv and Riyadh is part of the US plan to create a « Common Arab Defence Force », under the auspices of the Arab League, but under Israeli command. This « Force » is already effective in Yemen, where Israeli pilots fly Saudi bombers within the framework of an Arab Coalition whose headquarters have been installed by the Israelis in Somaliland, a non-recognised state situated on the other side of the the Bab el-Mandeb straits [1].
However, Riyadh does not intend to officialise this cooperation as long as Tel-Aviv refuses the Arab Peace Initiative, presented to the Arab League in 2002 by Prince Abdullah before he became king
21 October 2015 18:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The Islamic State lives for the doomsday when it captures Mecca and Medina and destroys the Black Stone. This is Salafism in its most extreme form. It also poses a direct threat to the territorial integrity of Saudi Arabia. I assure you that the leadership of Saudi Arabia do realize the threat, and this is the reason why Saudi Arabia and the UAE contact Russia.
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"How do Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and their allies assess Russia's military operation in Syria? Do they see it as a problem?"
"The appearance of Russian airplanes and helicopters in Syria does not seem to be a huge problem either for Saudi Arabia or the United Arab Emirates. It is the Islamic State the poses the biggest danger to these countries, especially to Saudi Arabia. I believe that the Islamic State is already a state, some call it a terrorist group or a pseudo-state. I think of it as a state that has been formed within certain borders.
Also read: Saudi Arabia promised expensive oil to Russia to topple Assad
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"According to the West, there is no common ground for such cooperation, because Russia allegedly supports Assad, whereas Saudi Arabia and other Middle Eastern countries are against him."
"I do not agree with this view. Saudi Arabia does not want him to go now. In general, it would be strange to listen to anyone from a Persian Gulf monarchy speaking about a bloody dictatorship. It goes about the Gulf States vs. Assad as the conductor of the Shiite Iran in the Middle East.
"Iran has been building the Shiite belt in Syria throughout all these years, posing a threat to the Sunni supremacy of Saudi Arabia in the region. Yet, I do believe that Bashar Assad is not ready to welcome Iran in Syria. Assad is an Alawite. The problem is about Iran.
"Therefore, it appears to me that the position of Saudi Arabia and the Emirates about Assad does not differ much from the position of Russia. In fact, Russia has never proclaimed the slogan "Hands off Assad!" Russia advocates for the preservation of the current regime in Syria. Russia supports a national dialogue.
"Of course, Syria will never exist the way it was in the past. Iraq will not be the way it used to be either. Too much blood has been shed, and ethnic conflicts have gone too far. Russia can help these countries solve their problems. Russia's operation in Syria will make peace talks in the Middle East happen a lot sooner. We can see Saudi Arabia and the Emirates in Moscow negotiating with Putin already. Two crown princes are the people who will be creating the new Middle East. The fact that they came to Moscow is definitely a good sign."
http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/19-10-2015/132360-middle_east_russia-0/
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"How do Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and their allies assess Russia's military operation in Syria? Do they see it as a problem?"
"The appearance of Russian airplanes and helicopters in Syria does not seem to be a huge problem either for Saudi Arabia or the United Arab Emirates. It is the Islamic State the poses the biggest danger to these countries, especially to Saudi Arabia. I believe that the Islamic State is already a state, some call it a terrorist group or a pseudo-state. I think of it as a state that has been formed within certain borders.
Also read: Saudi Arabia promised expensive oil to Russia to topple Assad
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"According to the West, there is no common ground for such cooperation, because Russia allegedly supports Assad, whereas Saudi Arabia and other Middle Eastern countries are against him."
"I do not agree with this view. Saudi Arabia does not want him to go now. In general, it would be strange to listen to anyone from a Persian Gulf monarchy speaking about a bloody dictatorship. It goes about the Gulf States vs. Assad as the conductor of the Shiite Iran in the Middle East.
"Iran has been building the Shiite belt in Syria throughout all these years, posing a threat to the Sunni supremacy of Saudi Arabia in the region. Yet, I do believe that Bashar Assad is not ready to welcome Iran in Syria. Assad is an Alawite. The problem is about Iran.
"Therefore, it appears to me that the position of Saudi Arabia and the Emirates about Assad does not differ much from the position of Russia. In fact, Russia has never proclaimed the slogan "Hands off Assad!" Russia advocates for the preservation of the current regime in Syria. Russia supports a national dialogue.
"Of course, Syria will never exist the way it was in the past. Iraq will not be the way it used to be either. Too much blood has been shed, and ethnic conflicts have gone too far. Russia can help these countries solve their problems. Russia's operation in Syria will make peace talks in the Middle East happen a lot sooner. We can see Saudi Arabia and the Emirates in Moscow negotiating with Putin already. Two crown princes are the people who will be creating the new Middle East. The fact that they came to Moscow is definitely a good sign."
http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/19-10-2015/132360-middle_east_russia-0/
http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/19-10-2015/132360-middle_east_russia-0/
21 October 2015 18:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"“Saudi Arabia views Russian operations in Syria as an alliance between Moscow and Tehran.”
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Two weeks later, Russia is still reviewing the damage balance its military incursion into Syria, which has angered governments, each in its own way are supporting the armed opposition in a while. The first red light came on when Gazprom admitted on October 7 that would have delayed the great Turkish Stream gas pipeline project, a key project for the Russians to bring their national treasure -the expenses to European markets.
Ankara is upset by the two Russian fighters raids invading its airspace, but also because the Russian army has attacked moderate forces that have Turkish support. Moscow, which insists that its enemy is the Islamic State has chosen these objectives that posed a serious threat to his protege.
For Saudi Arabia it is essential that Assad falls and it has spent large amounts of money to achieve that cause. A Saudi source sad the Minister of Defense, had told Putin that Russia’s intervention could intensify the war and inspire militants from around the world to fight in Siria.
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Russian assets are exporting their weapons to Egypt, who have made much progress in their relationship. And offer its technology to build nuclear power plants in countries like Saudi Arabia, Jordan or Turkey. Moscow has failed to make peace with Riyadh.
But maintains a good business climate with the Egyptians, who have not joined the chorus of criticism against the Russian bombings. Relations between Cairo and Moscow have improved in part by cooling between the Egyptian authorities and the White House.
The Kremlin is aware that dialogue between the US and Saudi Arabia not going through its best moment, and in his new role of power in the region directly involved tries to prove luck allying to the Saudis, bitter rivals and energy involved in one of the main weaknesses of Russia: Caucasus jihadist terrorism.
In 2013 talks between the Russian government and the Saudi failed because the latter tried to enforce in negotiations “control” exerted on terrorists in Russian republics such as Chechnya. Blackmail that Vladimir Putin refused to accept. Before Sunday and there were Saudis Russian contacts, but privately.
Senior government officials in Riyadh warned Lavrov in New York that the military escalation in Syria can prolong the conflict. The Saudis and other Sunni powers fear that Russia and its actions in the area are the catalyst for greater Shiite influence in the region.
http://thedailyjournalist.com/world-national/russia-tries-to-court-saudi-arabia/
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Two weeks later, Russia is still reviewing the damage balance its military incursion into Syria, which has angered governments, each in its own way are supporting the armed opposition in a while. The first red light came on when Gazprom admitted on October 7 that would have delayed the great Turkish Stream gas pipeline project, a key project for the Russians to bring their national treasure -the expenses to European markets.
Ankara is upset by the two Russian fighters raids invading its airspace, but also because the Russian army has attacked moderate forces that have Turkish support. Moscow, which insists that its enemy is the Islamic State has chosen these objectives that posed a serious threat to his protege.
For Saudi Arabia it is essential that Assad falls and it has spent large amounts of money to achieve that cause. A Saudi source sad the Minister of Defense, had told Putin that Russia’s intervention could intensify the war and inspire militants from around the world to fight in Siria.
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Russian assets are exporting their weapons to Egypt, who have made much progress in their relationship. And offer its technology to build nuclear power plants in countries like Saudi Arabia, Jordan or Turkey. Moscow has failed to make peace with Riyadh.
But maintains a good business climate with the Egyptians, who have not joined the chorus of criticism against the Russian bombings. Relations between Cairo and Moscow have improved in part by cooling between the Egyptian authorities and the White House.
The Kremlin is aware that dialogue between the US and Saudi Arabia not going through its best moment, and in his new role of power in the region directly involved tries to prove luck allying to the Saudis, bitter rivals and energy involved in one of the main weaknesses of Russia: Caucasus jihadist terrorism.
In 2013 talks between the Russian government and the Saudi failed because the latter tried to enforce in negotiations “control” exerted on terrorists in Russian republics such as Chechnya. Blackmail that Vladimir Putin refused to accept. Before Sunday and there were Saudis Russian contacts, but privately.
Senior government officials in Riyadh warned Lavrov in New York that the military escalation in Syria can prolong the conflict. The Saudis and other Sunni powers fear that Russia and its actions in the area are the catalyst for greater Shiite influence in the region.
http://thedailyjournalist.com/world-national/russia-tries-to-court-saudi-arabia/
21 October 2015 18:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
so and now..
"The Russian steal fist has allowed the army of Syrian President Bashar Assad, to make significant progress in its fight against the rebels. Backed by Moscow, the Syrian government forces on Monday fought the fiercest battle since the Russian operation began on 30 September. But these days Moscow also used the velvet glove to try to win Saudi Arabia, a major player in the Syrian conflict but whose approaches are opposed to the Kremlin.
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Nearly two weeks after joining the war in Syria, Putin made this weekend to win a the heart of the Saudi defense minister, Mohammed bin Salman gesture, using Formula 1 racing event in Sochi. But the operation has not worked: Riad continue to support opponents of Assad. And require that the Syrian leader leaves power.
But the initiative now is back on the side of Assad, thanks to the Russian air support; backed by 20 Russian bombers, they took the town of Kafr Nabuda in the province of Hama, as part of an offensive to regain territory in the center of the country. Yesterday the struggle for control of the city continued.
Moscow said its aircraft bombed 53 terrorist targets in Syria in 24 hours in the provinces of Homs, Hama, Latakia and Idleb. US, which is now waging a pulse with Russia in Syria, launched last Sunday parachute ammunition in northern Syria to rebels there.
// as old times, "opponents" eliminating VIetnam .. ..
//just u know.. five star is five star..
"The Russian steal fist has allowed the army of Syrian President Bashar Assad, to make significant progress in its fight against the rebels. Backed by Moscow, the Syrian government forces on Monday fought the fiercest battle since the Russian operation began on 30 September. But these days Moscow also used the velvet glove to try to win Saudi Arabia, a major player in the Syrian conflict but whose approaches are opposed to the Kremlin.
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Nearly two weeks after joining the war in Syria, Putin made this weekend to win a the heart of the Saudi defense minister, Mohammed bin Salman gesture, using Formula 1 racing event in Sochi. But the operation has not worked: Riad continue to support opponents of Assad. And require that the Syrian leader leaves power.
But the initiative now is back on the side of Assad, thanks to the Russian air support; backed by 20 Russian bombers, they took the town of Kafr Nabuda in the province of Hama, as part of an offensive to regain territory in the center of the country. Yesterday the struggle for control of the city continued.
Moscow said its aircraft bombed 53 terrorist targets in Syria in 24 hours in the provinces of Homs, Hama, Latakia and Idleb. US, which is now waging a pulse with Russia in Syria, launched last Sunday parachute ammunition in northern Syria to rebels there.
// as old times, "opponents" eliminating VIetnam .. ..
//just u know.. five star is five star..
21 October 2015 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and now serious, more serious one to think:
Moreover, Russian-Saudi relations have hardly benefited from ongoing separatist violence in Muslim Chechnya, where Russian security forces suspect that Chechen rebels continue to receive financial support from well-heeled Saudi sympathizers. Leading Russian business daily “Vedomosti” summed up these concerns in a 3 September editorial, commenting, “It is difficult to find a greater conundrum for a diplomat than a rapprochement between Riyadh and Moscow.”
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Warming to his theme, Reutov continued: “The $200 billion that Riyadh could invest, if things work out, in Russia's military-industrial complex would allow Moscow to make a tremendous leap forward. The combination of Saudi financial capabilities and Russian high-tech designs could add to the political map of the planet an entirely new center of power perhaps capable of returning the world to a bipolar system.”
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Ahmad boldly stated: “Russia can provide investment opportunities for the private Saudi funds that are still wandering the world's capitals in search of investment opportunities. Russia is tempting because of the unwelcoming, or even hostile, atmosphere for Saudi money in Western capitals.... Broadening the base of economic cooperation can give added impetus to cooperation in the political sphere in order to confront Washington's dubious intent to exploit its status as sole superpower to redraw the map of the Middle East.”
Moreover, Russian-Saudi relations have hardly benefited from ongoing separatist violence in Muslim Chechnya, where Russian security forces suspect that Chechen rebels continue to receive financial support from well-heeled Saudi sympathizers. Leading Russian business daily “Vedomosti” summed up these concerns in a 3 September editorial, commenting, “It is difficult to find a greater conundrum for a diplomat than a rapprochement between Riyadh and Moscow.”
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Warming to his theme, Reutov continued: “The $200 billion that Riyadh could invest, if things work out, in Russia's military-industrial complex would allow Moscow to make a tremendous leap forward. The combination of Saudi financial capabilities and Russian high-tech designs could add to the political map of the planet an entirely new center of power perhaps capable of returning the world to a bipolar system.”
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Ahmad boldly stated: “Russia can provide investment opportunities for the private Saudi funds that are still wandering the world's capitals in search of investment opportunities. Russia is tempting because of the unwelcoming, or even hostile, atmosphere for Saudi money in Western capitals.... Broadening the base of economic cooperation can give added impetus to cooperation in the political sphere in order to confront Washington's dubious intent to exploit its status as sole superpower to redraw the map of the Middle East.”
21 October 2015 18:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Russia and Saudi Arabia: $200 Billion Dreaming
(Source: Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty; issued Sept. 12, 20003)
When Crown Prince Abdallah Bin Abd-al-Aziz al-Sa'ud arrived in Moscow on 1 September, the press found ample reason to play up the three-day visit to Russia by the de facto ruler of Saudi Arabia.
The last such high-level meeting took place back in 1932,
and it was followed by decades of strained ties. In fact, diplomatic relations between the two countries ceased altogether between 1938 and 1990. Practical-minded observers noted that Saudi Arabia and Russia are today the world's top two exporters of crude oil.
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mutual dependence on oil revenues is hardly the basis for a lasting partnership. Saudi Arabia is a key member in the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), which has a penchant for price control through quotas. Russia is not a member, and the country's mainly privatized oil companies have happily produced as much oil for export as they can in order to profit from high world energy prices.
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http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/feature/25662/russian-arms-industry-dreams-of-saudi-cash.html
(Source: Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty; issued Sept. 12, 20003)
When Crown Prince Abdallah Bin Abd-al-Aziz al-Sa'ud arrived in Moscow on 1 September, the press found ample reason to play up the three-day visit to Russia by the de facto ruler of Saudi Arabia.
The last such high-level meeting took place back in 1932,
and it was followed by decades of strained ties. In fact, diplomatic relations between the two countries ceased altogether between 1938 and 1990. Practical-minded observers noted that Saudi Arabia and Russia are today the world's top two exporters of crude oil.
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mutual dependence on oil revenues is hardly the basis for a lasting partnership. Saudi Arabia is a key member in the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), which has a penchant for price control through quotas. Russia is not a member, and the country's mainly privatized oil companies have happily produced as much oil for export as they can in order to profit from high world energy prices.
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http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/feature/25662/russian-arms-industry-dreams-of-saudi-cash.html
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/feature/25662/russian-arms-industry-dreams-of-saudi-cash.html
21 October 2015 18:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Russia’s latest pact with its closest oil-producing rival marks Moscow’s efforts to replace Western funding, which has been hit by sanctions, just a few days before a summit of five major emerging economies, known by the acronym of Brics, to be held in Russia’s town of Ufa."
i told u .. these bricks.. UFAs.. :D
i told u .. these bricks.. UFAs.. :D
21 October 2015 17:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The majority of the $10 billion from Saudi Arabia’s sovereign-wealth fund, Public Investment Fund, will be spent on Russia’s agricultural projects, as well as on medicine, logistics, and the country’s retail and real estate sectors, RDIF chief Kirill Dmitriev told The Wall Street Journal.
The agreement was reached after a “great” contribution from Mohammad bin Salman Al Saud, Deputy Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, who met Russia’s President Vladimir Putin during an annual economic forum in Saint Petersburg in June, the RDIF said.
“The key investments will take place on Russian territory, but we will also invest in Saudi Arabia, which we consider a very promising market,” Mr. Dmitriev said.
// lol, royal printce gives u a gift and u tell hes place is promising market xD xD oo boy these western schooled suits :D
http://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-arabia-to-invest-up-to-10-billion-in-russia-1436198674
"Facing a political standoff with the West, Moscow has been turning eastward, saying it would seek Asian investors to reduce reliance on Europe and the U.S. In early May, Russia signed economic deals with China via the RDIF worth up to $25 billion, with Chinese banks investing in Russian companies. However, so far, there has been little evidence that China’s money has started flowing into Russia under this pact.
Write to Andrey Ostroukh at andrey.ostroukh@wsj.com "
// indeed, and little there will be..
The agreement was reached after a “great” contribution from Mohammad bin Salman Al Saud, Deputy Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, who met Russia’s President Vladimir Putin during an annual economic forum in Saint Petersburg in June, the RDIF said.
“The key investments will take place on Russian territory, but we will also invest in Saudi Arabia, which we consider a very promising market,” Mr. Dmitriev said.
// lol, royal printce gives u a gift and u tell hes place is promising market xD xD oo boy these western schooled suits :D
http://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-arabia-to-invest-up-to-10-billion-in-russia-1436198674
"Facing a political standoff with the West, Moscow has been turning eastward, saying it would seek Asian investors to reduce reliance on Europe and the U.S. In early May, Russia signed economic deals with China via the RDIF worth up to $25 billion, with Chinese banks investing in Russian companies. However, so far, there has been little evidence that China’s money has started flowing into Russia under this pact.
Write to Andrey Ostroukh at andrey.ostroukh@wsj.com "
// indeed, and little there will be..
http://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-arabia-to-invest-up-to-10-billion-in-russia-1436198674
21 October 2015 17:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The head of Russia's oil giant Rosneft, Igor Sechin, has been the right-hand man of President Vladimir Putin for more than twenty years. The company is 70% state-owned. "If Putin wants to cut, of course he can do it. Everybody knows that, " said one OPEC veteran.
Mr Dvorkovich hinted that output cuts could be on the way. "We are not going to cut supply artificially. Oil companies will act on their own. They will look at market forces and decide whether to invest more or less," he said.
"If prices stay low it is in the nature of oil companies to stabilize production, or even to cut production. The government will not decide on the behalf of oil companies what to do," he said.
Adnan Shihab-Eldin, the former secretary-general of OPEC, said the oil cartel is in "bad shape" and may have to rethink its current strategy. "Can OPEC really afford to the policy started in November of letting the market determine prices," said at the Ambrosetti forum.
http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-and-saudi-arabia-are-sending-signals-to-each-other-about-what-happens-next-to-the-oil-market-2015-9
Mr Dvorkovich hinted that output cuts could be on the way. "We are not going to cut supply artificially. Oil companies will act on their own. They will look at market forces and decide whether to invest more or less," he said.
"If prices stay low it is in the nature of oil companies to stabilize production, or even to cut production. The government will not decide on the behalf of oil companies what to do," he said.
Adnan Shihab-Eldin, the former secretary-general of OPEC, said the oil cartel is in "bad shape" and may have to rethink its current strategy. "Can OPEC really afford to the policy started in November of letting the market determine prices," said at the Ambrosetti forum.
http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-and-saudi-arabia-are-sending-signals-to-each-other-about-what-happens-next-to-the-oil-market-2015-9
http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-and-saudi-arabia-are-sending-signals-to-each-other-about-what-happens-next-to-the-oil-market-2015-9
21 October 2015 17:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"It is now clear that this is the proposal the Saudis made to the Russians over the course of the summer, and that it was this offer which was at the heart of the discussions between the Russians and the Saudis that have attracted so much attention.
For the moment the Russians are saying no.
This could be a negotiating tactic. The reasons the Russians are giving, that their oil industry is not centrally controlled in the way the oil industry in OPEC states is, and that there are technical problems with switching off Siberian wells during winter, do not on the face of it look terribly convincing. Frankly these look like negotiating ploys.
Possibly the real reason is that the Russians are at present expanding aggressively into the Chinese energy market from which they have just ousted the Saudis as the biggest oil supplier. It may be that the Russians are concerned that the Saudis’ offer is simply a device to get them to limit their expansion in the Chinese market.
Possibly the Saudis could agree to grant the Russians primacy in the Chinese market in return for the Russians conceding to the Saudis primacy in the US and Europe.
Given the importance of the Russian Chinese strategic partnership to Russia, it is a certainty that if any such discussions are underway the Chinese are being consulted and are involved.
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Haha.. these big boys will rip Russia apart if they want to
But why should they
For the moment the Russians are saying no.
This could be a negotiating tactic. The reasons the Russians are giving, that their oil industry is not centrally controlled in the way the oil industry in OPEC states is, and that there are technical problems with switching off Siberian wells during winter, do not on the face of it look terribly convincing. Frankly these look like negotiating ploys.
Possibly the real reason is that the Russians are at present expanding aggressively into the Chinese energy market from which they have just ousted the Saudis as the biggest oil supplier. It may be that the Russians are concerned that the Saudis’ offer is simply a device to get them to limit their expansion in the Chinese market.
Possibly the Saudis could agree to grant the Russians primacy in the Chinese market in return for the Russians conceding to the Saudis primacy in the US and Europe.
Given the importance of the Russian Chinese strategic partnership to Russia, it is a certainty that if any such discussions are underway the Chinese are being consulted and are involved.
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Haha.. these big boys will rip Russia apart if they want to
But why should they
21 October 2015 17:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
At same time:
"Igor Sechin, the powerful head of Rosneft, Russia’s big state oil company, has now confirmed that OPEC - the Saudi dominated oil producers’ cartel - has offered Russia membership.
This comes on the heels of media reports that the Saudis have been pressing the Russians for an “oil alliance” whereby Russia and Saudi Arabia, the world’s two biggest oil producers, would coordinate their production so as to dominate the oil market together"
http://russia-insider.com/en/business/confirmed-saudi-arabia-offered-russia-oil-alliance-and-opec-membership/ri9586
"Igor Sechin, the powerful head of Rosneft, Russia’s big state oil company, has now confirmed that OPEC - the Saudi dominated oil producers’ cartel - has offered Russia membership.
This comes on the heels of media reports that the Saudis have been pressing the Russians for an “oil alliance” whereby Russia and Saudi Arabia, the world’s two biggest oil producers, would coordinate their production so as to dominate the oil market together"
http://russia-insider.com/en/business/confirmed-saudi-arabia-offered-russia-oil-alliance-and-opec-membership/ri9586
http://russia-insider.com/en/business/confirmed-saudi-arabia-offered-russia-oil-alliance-and-opec-membership/ri9586
21 October 2015 17:42
Margus Meigo commented on Tajlora Raëlien Knüdsen's post.
Group: Raelian Movement
and why should humans complain, they want to do the job that robots do? And if corporation does not want to hire you then they are bad because of that human is not able to live their life ?
maybe, little bit, but in mostly.. people should not prison corporations in their actions
to looking it equal, human way21 October 2015 17:35
Margus Meigo commented on Tajlora Raëlien Knüdsen's post.
Group: Raelian Movement
Sex pleasure toy shows people are not developed in their sexuality perhaps, they are not in touch with their true nature ,and sexuality in a deep way, only shallow pleasure instinct way as "animal"
gun should show respect, responsibility and ... well, it really depends of an aria. Some arias, it comes handy.
But yes, in generally i agree.21 October 2015 17:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
mida pole olemas (,) pole olemas
which does not exist (,) does not exist
https://theezraproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/an-experiment-on-the-knowability-of-god-apart-from-revelation/
which does not exist (,) does not exist
https://theezraproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/an-experiment-on-the-knowability-of-god-apart-from-revelation/
https://theezraproject.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/an-experiment-on-the-knowability-of-god-apart-from-revelation/
21 October 2015 17:20
Margus Meigo replied to Mikk Lille's comment.
parem oleks öelda, asju mida pole olemas
pole olemas
pole olemas
21 October 2015 17:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
21 October 2015 17:17
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
always
21 October 2015 17:16
Margus Meigo replied to Mikk Lille's comment.
võimalik
21 October 2015 17:15
Margus Meigo commented on Yoanna Sayili's photo.
happy hapy christmas
21 October 2015 16:18
Margus Meigo commented on Lyserg Kiszh's photo.
mor eflowers needed..
21 October 2015 16:17
Margus Meigo commented on Lyserg Kiszh's photo.
True True..
21 October 2015 16:17
Margus Meigo commented on Andrej Podbevšek's photo.
still disturbing :D
21 October 2015 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's post.
so its all clear
21 October 2015 16:11
Margus Meigo commented on Nilu Perera's post.
amazing love
21 October 2015 16:09
Margus Meigo replied to Юра Писчиков's comment.
Group: Muusikahuvilised!
neoro punk tõi mul kohe neuro roki meelde:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9LfkCef58&index=22&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZXhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9LfkCef58&index=22&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX
21 October 2015 15:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muusikastiili nimi siis Trumm ja Buss
21 October 2015 15:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Muusikahuvilised!
Nii, et pole vaja muretseda meie muusiak pärast, ja ameerika oma... samad mured muudes maades ka,
klounitsetakse tõsisuse asemel21 October 2015 15:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Muusikahuvilised!
Hollandlastest rääkide,s vaat kui karmid nemad juba on, kitarri tulest suitsule tuld, juba loob!
Kuigi, ma millegi pärast kahetsen, et neil kustutusvahendid on käepärast, kaamera taga.
KURWAAA.... need on poolakad vist hoopis mitte hollandlased.
"I have in my heart of rebellion, love and hate
I could kill for it all
Or get yourself killed
The extremes tear me in every direction
What do I do?
I will not do anything about this
As long as I breathe - I'm going to have fun"
//(minu mõte vastus)//
Aww.. cute.. having fun and killing .. or not doing anything.. wait, still having fun? Or still planning to kill, if you say, you really could kill.. could you? Innit fun, to the end ?
Mam w moim sercu bunt, miłość I nienawiść
Mógłbym za to wszystko zabić
Albo dać się zabić
Skrajności rozrywają mnie w każdą stronę
Co poradzić?
Nie zrobię z tym nic
Dopóki oddycham – zamierzam się bawić
Muzyczna schizofremian
Raz Underground raz komercja
Mam szczerze wyjebane
To co czuje - to jest grane
Bez różnicy czy to punk rock
Rap, elektro albo hardcore
Mam wyjebane
Wyjebane
Mam wyjenbne na poddziały
[WU:]
...
Kto inny robi zamęt
Chu* w wasze zamieszanie
Zamiast techniki byś poprawił zachowanie
Mam szczerze wyjebane
To co czuje - to jest grane
Bez różnicy czy to punk rock
Rap, elektro albo hardcore
Mam wyjebane
Wyjebane
Mam wyjebne na poddziały
Mam wyjebane
Wyjebane
Mam wyjebne na poddziały
Teraz w to nie wierzysz
Uwierzysz, minie czas
Muzyka jest wolna, bez podziałów, ras
Nie ważne czy pijesz
Czy może depczesz grass
Muzyka jest wolna, i ma jedną twarz
Nieważne czy masz kasę
Czy może kasy brak
Muzyka jest wolna, alternatywny świat
Muzyka jest wolna
Dla mnie to gra
Chcę więcej wszystkiego
Chcę muzykę ćpać
Mam szczerze wyjebane
To co czuje - to jest grane
Bez różnicy czy to punk rock
Rap, elektro albo hardcore
Mam wyjebane
Wyjebane
Mam wyjebne na poddziały
Mam wyjebane
Wyjebane
Mam wyjebne na poddziały
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htsp3zVP0iMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htsp3zVP0iM
21 October 2015 15:31
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
also language of music and cats and..
21 October 2015 14:37
Margus Meigo commented on Cheech and Chong's photo.
Red then
21 October 2015 14:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
noun
noun: instrument; plural noun: instruments; noun: musical instrument; plural noun: musical instruments; plural noun: musicals instrument
1.
a tool or implement, especially one for precision work.
"a surgical instrument"
synonyms: implement, tool, utensil, device, apparatus, contrivance, gadget, contraption, appliance, mechanism; informalgizmo
--
OKey, so maybe
noun: instrument; plural noun: instruments; noun: musical instrument; plural noun: musical instruments; plural noun: musicals instrument
1.
a tool or implement, especially one for precision work.
"a surgical instrument"
synonyms: implement, tool, utensil, device, apparatus, contrivance, gadget, contraption, appliance, mechanism; informalgizmo
--
OKey, so maybe
21 October 2015 14:35
Margus Meigo commented on Cheech and Chong's photo.
is computer and institution, and F14 an instrument ?
21 October 2015 14:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Suures osa, need psotid, endale, sonimite vahelise siduvuse pidli, "3D" loomiseks, kuid sellegi pooles,t päevakajane ja muidu vajalik info kasutatud ikkagi,
21 October 2015 05:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(ariaid, ing keeles "alasi")
21 October 2015 05:49
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kohupiima oli dajooba üks viimaseid päevi, ükskord
21 October 2015 05:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Okey, siia pastlik vist lisada "Tallina suurima supiköögi" TV3 uudise klip
kus ma ei votnud sona, kuna keegi ei suvatsenud hiljem midagi küsida,
oleks täiega leivasuppi tahtnud soovitada
kus ma ei votnud sona, kuna keegi ei suvatsenud hiljem midagi küsida,
oleks täiega leivasuppi tahtnud soovitada
21 October 2015 05:27
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's photo.
voi noh, materiali sisusuks oleks olnud, kui oleks julgetud kirja panna, aga hoopis nähti vaeva mingi lihtsakoese meelte pesu ja suunamise ja laimamise ja...
noh, selle asemel ,et kohe väga kova teemat ajada
noh, selle asemel ,et kohe väga kova teemat ajada
21 October 2015 05:21
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's photo.
Aga oi kui palju siis veel muud on...
aga jah, mingi kuu tagasi, karmide pealkrjadega lugusi oli, aga ei maleta millest, sisui polnud eriti
aga jah, mingi kuu tagasi, karmide pealkrjadega lugusi oli, aga ei maleta millest, sisui polnud eriti
21 October 2015 05:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
et siis piiibli aeglane lugemine pidi hea olema,
seega, vaja sis eestikeeele tolket ,teksti, sellele tekstile
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8zsgj8r6hy8oc3r/AAC6J72fts0DCn4qaH7Zrn9Za?dl=0
seega, vaja sis eestikeeele tolket ,teksti, sellele tekstile
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8zsgj8r6hy8oc3r/AAC6J72fts0DCn4qaH7Zrn9Za?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8zsgj8r6hy8oc3r/AAC6J72fts0DCn4qaH7Zrn9Za?dl=0
21 October 2015 05:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja siis selle kommentaari komentaari komenteerimine,
samade voimalsutega,
see suht suure voimaluse lisab juba, seda enamasti ei lubata,
koos tehnoloogiaga nii laialt, nii suures kohas...
kui jargi moelda, siis ei tea ka (kuid kui päriselt moelda, ju siis teame ka, vast)
samade voimalsutega,
see suht suure voimaluse lisab juba, seda enamasti ei lubata,
koos tehnoloogiaga nii laialt, nii suures kohas...
kui jargi moelda, siis ei tea ka (kuid kui päriselt moelda, ju siis teame ka, vast)
21 October 2015 05:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
et FBs,on
1) Main post
2 selle kommid
3 selle kommides olevad pildi ulesaadimise, enabled voimalustega, gif aktiiivse pildi isegi ja kleepusd
1) Main post
2 selle kommid
3 selle kommides olevad pildi ulesaadimise, enabled voimalustega, gif aktiiivse pildi isegi ja kleepusd
21 October 2015 05:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
millest naised saunas teadsid
21 October 2015 04:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Et teema oli selles, et milles treisemehe kommis räägitud
21 October 2015 04:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
21 October 2015 04:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
21 October 2015 04:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mulle meeldib
21 October 2015 04:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
igatahes screen paste ei toimi, tsekake ise
https://t.co/MLNbCs2YVY
https://t.co/MLNbCs2YVY
21 October 2015 04:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Inline image 1
21 October 2015 04:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Russia - She feels Her
(i will explain later)21 October 2015 04:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
lyhiplaanis, selgitus ymberkudseks suunaks, piirde haardest, kud mitte korgusest ja kaugusest, suurusest
21 October 2015 03:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ahjaa, test, siis millest eelmises rääkima proovisin, ol iselline, et kilekot mis väljast puas aga seest mingi imelik jaanud, siis see pahupidi keerates, riided puhtad sinna sisse pannes, kot kinni ja kott omakorda paberkoti mis pealt kenasti ristkylikuti kinni, et siis kas see vahemele hais jaab kile kais .. kaitstes, jääb see hais riidest eemal, ja tugev rimi kott, pabwerist eil uba labi lohna ka, kuid nagu imendaks, ohutkas samas... ehk lahendab lohna ära, ja aisu ei tekigi ja riided ka puhtamad, kui vastupdi oleks olnud,
Seega reaalsuses, alternatiiv eemale theutd experiment,
mis toestas, teelt korvale mineku kasulikuse
Seega reaalsuses, alternatiiv eemale theutd experiment,
mis toestas, teelt korvale mineku kasulikuse
21 October 2015 03:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
onneks laadisin yld konsepti erinevi osi yles enne, nagu punane kaustik ja kaitsekodu ajakiri peal,
voi rist oiglasel taustal ees ja siis psyLight naturaalne peegeldus ajakirja laikivkaane taustalt
voi rist oiglasel taustal ees ja siis psyLight naturaalne peegeldus ajakirja laikivkaane taustalt
21 October 2015 03:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid kaitse kodu ajakirjast mis mul lauapeal, mul pilti teha ikka ei onnestu
21 October 2015 03:15
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
liiga labaselt pole ka motet asju topelt teha (yks on see mida aint koik oos oigesti teeme)
21 October 2015 03:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
naah..enne osadel browseritel see talk box kirjas clipboard image yles.. nyyd enam mittte
21 October 2015 03:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
saate aru jah, et mis aru, haru, vaja veel arendada
21 October 2015 03:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(hmmm,, mida siia maali otsa, mis haruveeelArendada)
21 October 2015 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Päris tase, mida koike voib leida: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/p0dbn4qb1nqhine/AACmZdF7sImNxZ20yCswpBs6a?dl=0
(eriti kui ma saaksin aidata arusaada)
(eriti kui ma saaksin aidata arusaada)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/p0dbn4qb1nqhine/AACmZdF7sImNxZ20yCswpBs6a?dl=0
21 October 2015 02:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(Minu avalikus on umbes selisel tasemel: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1clhjhtd4t8phyf/AAAYBPy22R9avhs_LEpx17wca?dl=0 )
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1clhjhtd4t8phyf/AAAYBPy22R9avhs_LEpx17wca?dl=0
21 October 2015 02:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(krunt, ehk mingi maa ala, mateerias)
21 October 2015 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kui iganes punaselt,seks sa seda/ miinus, seks, siinkohal/ kui iiganes punaseks, sa seda olukorda thad suunata, naha, tead olema, siis, (mote, krunt)
21 October 2015 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vot, ja sellepärast on see hea, millest hakkame röökima (ja see töhendba, et sigareti suitsetamist sellisena vahendame loplikult)
21 October 2015 02:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(muiates: kuidas muidu lapaka alust kaasa tua lubatakse (sellisesse olukorda/pleisssi))
21 October 2015 02:48
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
... (nii muud motted olid, siin vahepeal, päris elu ikka ka oluline)
21 October 2015 02:45
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
et,
21 October 2015 02:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aga peagi, kui soovi avaldad, saad avada ennast moistmisele,
21 October 2015 02:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja siis pakutakse sulle seda mida sa ju veel ei arvestanud kust saad
21 October 2015 02:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
seega aimatav mis liiki ettevotmine, on plaanitud
21 October 2015 02:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kuid osad mõtted, vaatan üle, vist tundub, et jääb ikka samaks (vb , sest sarnases psy ruumis kasvanud inimesed suudavad enamasti valja moelda sar...))
(..suudavad enamasti valja moleda, sarnaseid ettevotmisi)
(..suudavad enamasti valja moleda, sarnaseid ettevotmisi)
21 October 2015 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yhesonaga, motlesin, kas on viisakas alles uute soprade saadud ajakirja kohe paranduslikult nappima arusaamata, realiseerimata, et see paljus iroonias kirjutatud mitmes kees,
21 October 2015 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
("jah staabiülem, see on ka sulle" oli sonum peas millegi pärast, ei tea, kas see päriselt labi minu oli määratud väi oli see väärastu)
21 October 2015 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid mitte kauaks
21 October 2015 02:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nagu paar pilti proodcastics hasti, kuigi eks järgi etendav virtuaalselt ligilahdaselt veenvalt, on ka piisav monele
21 October 2015 02:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aga, et siis paranduste kirjutamine sellele ajakirjale pooleni, ja sellest ajakirjast endast, oli plaan thea pilti siin selles olukorras
21 October 2015 02:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ahjaa, see sama olukord tekkis, mida selles ajakirjas juba selgitati ka, seoses fotoka kaotamisega oma tööalast
21 October 2015 02:13
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
21 October 2015 02:12
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
(esimeselpildil)
21 October 2015 02:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aga pilves, tead ju (irw@tiivad)
21 October 2015 02:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid, see polnud see millest ma rääkida thatsin (st, selle alumise pildi asemel, pidin selle kaitse kodu pildi ylespanema)
21 October 2015 02:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
internetis kus muuta, tasub ikka enne send panna
21 October 2015 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lehmberg's post.
i do not know what the stor is about, to open it, but this guy i like
21 October 2015 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
not that this would have to do to much of what was sayd
.. but looking at this... that looks mighty good, have to barrow my mathematician friend thought to be sure
.. but looking at this... that looks mighty good, have to barrow my mathematician friend thought to be sure
20 October 2015 22:26
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
yes, logic is by far inferior to any relgion,
... in religious point of view, logic is one of the tools like psychology, that is tool of god, mostly used through man and expressed by man
only, one of the few tools man got given to use in superior amount then of a Women, ... and women have not been forgiving seance then, that One thing, out of infinite .. that might be.. more, ...Nahy! How dare they, they Chauvinist and pigs!
... in religious point of view, logic is one of the tools like psychology, that is tool of god, mostly used through man and expressed by man
only, one of the few tools man got given to use in superior amount then of a Women, ... and women have not been forgiving seance then, that One thing, out of infinite .. that might be.. more, ...Nahy! How dare they, they Chauvinist and pigs!
20 October 2015 22:23
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
...i started a joke...
20 October 2015 22:12
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
anyone promoting upside down cross looks like troubled teenager to me
but will give a hear to it anyway
but will give a hear to it anyway
20 October 2015 22:11
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
he is only mentaly troubeled when he shoots classmates, if its two other ones, its just a job, hobbies or something like that
20 October 2015 22:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
but good they got this dangerous one
20 October 2015 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
what trip are u in, am .. am should not ask probabaly
20 October 2015 22:03
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
.. no wait a minute, i meant, audience
20 October 2015 21:55
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
screw the rhetor!
20 October 2015 21:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Homseks korrastan seda kausta, mul seles praegu muud ka vast...
Aeg sai raamatukogus otsa lihtsalt . )
PS: sain oma arvuti tagasi, politseist!20 October 2015 19:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(from http://www.amazon.com/Creation-Answer-Book-Hank-Hanegraaff/product-reviews/1400319269/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_2?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=helpful&reviewerType=all_reviews&formatType=all_formats&filterByStar=two_star&pageNumber=1 )
http://www.amazon.com/Creation-Answer-Book-Hank-Hanegraaff/product-reviews/1400319269/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_2?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=helpful&reviewerType=all_reviews&formatType=all_formats&filterByStar=two_star&pageNumber=1
20 October 2015 17:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
this video just makes people depressed or falsely beliving that they are saved from it all and so they better then others... but hey.. they not, innit
20 October 2015 11:12
Margus Meigo commented on Divine Revelation Of Heaven & Hell's video.
think normally now.. for 8 billion people, how much is NORMAL death rate, iif people live avarage 65 to 75 years?
20 October 2015 11:11
Margus Meigo commented on Divine Revelation Of Heaven & Hell's video.
these people who do this videos and numbers are a bit of sick, they the ones who get u to hell
20 October 2015 11:10
Margus Meigo commented on Divine Revelation Of Heaven & Hell's video.
yea so ?
20 October 2015 11:09
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Tundub ebaoluline, kuid kuna sellega meie "intelligentsi" ja lipsumeeste aluspõhjad nö programeeritakse otseselt pereväärtuste, looduse ja naise vastaseks (ka naistel endal) ning mingi utoopia poolseks mida uus suurvõim juhuslikult toetab...
et jah, otsin sõnu veel kuidas seda jama selgitada, mida tehakse nii laste kui vanuritega, nii ameerikas /(Alister Crowli jms) kui teiselpool idapiiri... sada eri suunda, kuid ühed ja samad alustalad neil... nad ise ei teagi, et nad ühest pundist.. aga kõik koos, on nad õiguse vastu.
Ja selles, ei saa neid süüdistada, võidelda ka ei saa... tuleb raviprogramme vaikselt tasa väljam õelda ja rakendada..
et jah, otsin sõnu veel kuidas seda jama selgitada, mida tehakse nii laste kui vanuritega, nii ameerikas /(Alister Crowli jms) kui teiselpool idapiiri... sada eri suunda, kuid ühed ja samad alustalad neil... nad ise ei teagi, et nad ühest pundist.. aga kõik koos, on nad õiguse vastu.
Ja selles, ei saa neid süüdistada, võidelda ka ei saa... tuleb raviprogramme vaikselt tasa väljam õelda ja rakendada..
19 October 2015 17:11
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
NIng suurem osa eesti spirituaal laagritest ja esoteerikast, on venema treenerite käealt läbi käinud, neid kes programeerivad neid kes siis meie firma omanikele igast lõõgastavaid lahendusi ja õpetusi pakuvad hiljem suure raha eest...
alustala on neil sisestada, et inimene on bioloogiline robot ja kõik on suhteline, et pole õiget ega valet ja need kes mingit suunda peale suruvad on eksivad. Seni kuni midagi ei usu, oled õigel teel (kuig, see ise ka usk.. aga noh, anarhism ja ateism pole kunagi tervemõistuslik ega loogiline minule tundunud )
alustala on neil sisestada, et inimene on bioloogiline robot ja kõik on suhteline, et pole õiget ega valet ja need kes mingit suunda peale suruvad on eksivad. Seni kuni midagi ei usu, oled õigel teel (kuig, see ise ka usk.. aga noh, anarhism ja ateism pole kunagi tervemõistuslik ega loogiline minule tundunud )
19 October 2015 17:08
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Vähe sellest.. meil siin lääänes ise, on suure osa noorte inimeste arvamus läänevastane, kuid see nii salakavalalt ja vaikivalt... ohtlikult..
koos filosoofiaga, et nad seda teistele näidata ega öelda ei tohi... seega peidetud vastasus, koos kõrkusega, mida sisse süstitud siin väga mitmel eri tasemel, niipalju kui noorte gruppidega rääkinud nii hippilikumate kui akadeemilistema seas
koos filosoofiaga, et nad seda teistele näidata ega öelda ei tohi... seega peidetud vastasus, koos kõrkusega, mida sisse süstitud siin väga mitmel eri tasemel, niipalju kui noorte gruppidega rääkinud nii hippilikumate kui akadeemilistema seas
19 October 2015 17:05
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Siia "Like" panna küll ei saa
19 October 2015 17:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I cant see anything negative about it...
but hopefully people will realize soon, there newer was no real private securty related to computer communication,
from the ones who are masters of the Networks,
and the ones who build it
and from the ones who can see inside things,
but hopefully people will realize soon, there newer was no real private securty related to computer communication,
from the ones who are masters of the Networks,
and the ones who build it
and from the ones who can see inside things,
19 October 2015 16:34
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
commies homo romans revolutions
19 October 2015 15:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Varastatud, Kaotatud Ja Leitud Asjad.
Yess, Leitud !!!
Lähen järgi!
Tänud kõigile!19 October 2015 15:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kaotatud, varastatud, leitud!
Yess, Leitud !!!
Lähen järgi!
Tänud kõigile!19 October 2015 15:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Yess, Leitud !!!
Lähen järgi!
Tänud kõigile!
Lähen järgi!
Tänud kõigile!
19 October 2015 14:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Punk pole punane
täitsa erakordne tegelane ikka ta :D16 October 2015 11:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nemad peaks Bellaga koos duetti tegema, arvan, et sobivad kuidagi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhezkmLrHG4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhezkmLrHG4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhezkmLrHG4
15 October 2015 19:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid tema siirus, on armas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTvguiI3efk&index=31&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTvguiI3efk&index=31&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTvguiI3efk&index=31&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a
15 October 2015 19:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu tänapäeval, asjakohane viis ka..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V21jzJx47vY&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a&index=64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V21jzJx47vY&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a&index=64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V21jzJx47vY&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a&index=64
15 October 2015 19:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
OMG, vaadake neid lavalolijaid, syndimängjast kuni murjamini ja kellest laul :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6XivSD8RKM&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a&index=30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6XivSD8RKM&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a&index=30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6XivSD8RKM&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a&index=30
15 October 2015 19:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Punk pole punane
Öörahuga siin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69sQFHDhC8k&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a&index=24https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69sQFHDhC8k&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a&index=24
15 October 2015 19:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu mitte päris aga noo, eks ikka mingi hinge külg : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF5sdat5qIg&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a&index=11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF5sdat5qIg&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a&index=11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF5sdat5qIg&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a&index=11
15 October 2015 18:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu ja siis järjest.. kuulatades.. kui mõtlen.. et kas mu aeg on läbi ja kas on häbi.. ta siis laulab: "Margus teil on..."
"Aitab küll, aitab küll, kas Sul pole häbi... Võta oma vabadus... jäta oma..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNI2T69jyW0&index=7&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a
"Aitab küll, aitab küll, kas Sul pole häbi... Võta oma vabadus... jäta oma..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNI2T69jyW0&index=7&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a
15 October 2015 18:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"prostid, vangid, pederastid vangutavad pead,
midagi ma neile ei ole teinud head"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXor2GEXuSM&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a&index=3
midagi ma neile ei ole teinud head"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXor2GEXuSM&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXor2GEXuSM&list=PLK4LXXNEan2fo8lW3bCBTyUzXqJh1yx8a&index=3
15 October 2015 18:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siis...
Miks see laul siia tundub, sobivat, lisada?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3slPsmWHddU
Ma ju saladustevaba
Miks see laul siia tundub, sobivat, lisada?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3slPsmWHddU
Ma ju saladustevaba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3slPsmWHddU
15 October 2015 18:03
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
basically,
also irony
also irony
15 October 2015 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hey Danny, great to see ya!
And hey... anyone can trust, real estonians, we invented the trust >p
And hey... anyone can trust, real estonians, we invented the trust >p
15 October 2015 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
pudrud head!
15 October 2015 15:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
http://www.rindeleht.ee/foorum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2236&start=15&sid=616dd6282af116aff4fc278261bcc819&view=print
http://www.rindeleht.ee/foorum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2236&start=15&sid=616dd6282af116aff4fc278261bcc819&view=print
15 October 2015 14:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
http://www.kaitseliit.ee/et/kaitseliit-uuendas-90-aastast-vagilast
http://www.kaitseliit.ee/et/kaitseliit-uuendas-90-aastast-vagilast
15 October 2015 14:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
http://www.militaar.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=375
http://www.militaar.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=375
15 October 2015 14:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
see muidugi üks näide paljudest, kes sama vihmavarju all on, kuid hea näide, mis avalikult kättesaadav, igast muud tulnuka relgioonid ja õpetused liiga avalikuse eest peidetud ja laialivalguvad tunduvad, et neid tava inimene ohuna või tõsiseltvõetavana suudaks ette kujutada, et miks ja kudias nad olulised ja kasutatav ja organiseeritud on...
arvataks, et need asjad iseseisvalt, ise jooksevad ja toimetavad.. ilma suurema koondplaanita... likvideerida rahvused, iidsed relgioosed loodust ja naist austavad kultuurid.. ja muidugi , ka Eesti Anonüümne
arvataks, et need asjad iseseisvalt, ise jooksevad ja toimetavad.. ilma suurema koondplaanita... likvideerida rahvused, iidsed relgioosed loodust ja naist austavad kultuurid.. ja muidugi , ka Eesti Anonüümne
15 October 2015 13:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Lugemiseks:
Penthouse: Did it attract young people as much as cults today?
Hubbard: Yes. We attracted quite a few hippies but we tried to stay a way from them, because they didn't have any money.
Penthouse: A poor man can't be a Scientologist?
Hubbard: No, oh no.
Penthouse: What do you think of the great popularity of cults in this country?
Hubbard: I think they're very dangerous and destructive. I don't think that anyone should think for you. And that's exactly what cults do. All cults, including Scientology, say, "I am your mind, I am your brain. I've done all the work for you, I've laid the path open for you. All you have to do is turn your mind off and walk down the path I have created." Well, I have learned that there's great strength in diversity, that a clamorous discussion or debate is very healthy and should be encouraged. That's why I like our political setup in the United States: simply because you can fight and argue and jump up and down and shout and scream and have all kinds of viewpoints, regardless of how wrongheaded or ridiculous they might be. People here don't have to give up their right to perceive things the way they believe. Scientology and all the other cults are one-dimensional, and we live in a three-dimensional world. Cults are as dangerous as drugs. They commit the highest crime: the rape of the soul.
Penthouse: You mentioned that Scientology attracted a great many well-known or important people. Can you give us some examples?
Hubbard: Two of the people we were involved with in the late fifties in England were Errol Flynn and a man who was high up in the Labor Party at the time. My father and Errol Flynn were very similar. They were only interested in money, sex, booze, and drugs. At that time, in the late fifties, Flynn was pretty much of a burned-out hulk. But he was involved in smuggling deals with my father: gold from the Mediterranean, and some drugs --mostly cocaine. They were both just a little larger than life. I had to admire my father from one standpoint. As I've said, he was a down-and-out, broke science-fiction writer, and then he writes one book of science-fiction and convinces the world it's true. He sells it to millions of people and gets billions of dollars and everyone thinks he's some sort of deity. He was really bigger than life. Flynn was like that, too. You could say many negative things about the two of them, but they did as they pleased and lived as they pleased. It was always fun to sit there at dinner and listen to these two guys rap. Wild people. Errol Flynn was like my father also in that he would do anything for money. He would take anything to bed --boys, girls, Fifty-year-old women, ten-year-old boys, Flynn and my father had insatiable appetites. Tons of mistresses. They lived very high on the hog.
Penthouse: And what about this Labor Party official?
Hubbard: He was a double agent for the KGB and for the British intelligence agency. He was also a raging homosexual. He wanted my father to use his black-magic, soul-cracking, brainwashing techniques on young boys. He wanted these boys as his own sexual slaves. He wanted to use my father's techniques to crack people's heads open because he was very influential in and around the British government --plus he was selling information to the Russians. And so was my father.
Penthouse: Your father was selling information to the Soviets?
Hubbard: Yes. That's where my father got the money to buy St. Hill Manor in East Grinstead, Sussex, which is the English headquarters of Scientology today.
Penthouse: What information did your father have to sell the Soviet government?
Hubbard: He didn't do any spying himself. What he normally did was allow these strange little people to go into the offices and into his home at odd hours of the night. He told me that he was allowing the KGB to go through our files, and that he was charging £40,000 for it. This was the money he used for the purchase of St. Hill Manor.
Penthouse: Do you know any specific information that the KGB got from your father that might have been harmful to security?
Hubbard: The plans for an infrared heat-seeking missile in the early fifties. They obtained the information by extensive auditing of the guy who was one of the head engineers. There were great infiltrations clear to this day. There has always been an inordinate interest on the part of Scientology in military and government personnel. There's no way for me to prove it sitting here, but I believe that the KGB trained East German agents who came via Denmark to London to the United States who were, supposedly, Scientologists. They made very good Scientologists. They were very well trained.
Penthouse: Did your father do this just for money?
Hubbard: Yes. The more he made, the more he wanted. He became greedy. He was really just interested in the use of money and power, wherever it was or whosoever's it was. Morality and politics made no difference to him at all.
Penthouse: Did the Labor Party official get any of his young men via Scientology?
Hubbard: Yes. The British were ripe for Scientology. The British school system fosters lesbianism and homosexuality, because from the time you're born until you're in your twenties, all you see is the same sex. The schools are so segretated. And you'll notice in Scientology the focus on sex. Sex, sex, sex. The first thing we wanted to know about someone we were auditing was his sexual deviations. You know, in actual fact, very few people exclusively practice missionary-style sex. So all you've got to do is find a person's kinks, whatever they might be. Their dreams and their fantasies. And if you find that central core, their sexual drives and desires and fantasies, then you can fit a ring through their noses and take them anywnere.
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/penthouse-LRonHubbardJr-interview-1983.htm
Penthouse: Did it attract young people as much as cults today?
Hubbard: Yes. We attracted quite a few hippies but we tried to stay a way from them, because they didn't have any money.
Penthouse: A poor man can't be a Scientologist?
Hubbard: No, oh no.
Penthouse: What do you think of the great popularity of cults in this country?
Hubbard: I think they're very dangerous and destructive. I don't think that anyone should think for you. And that's exactly what cults do. All cults, including Scientology, say, "I am your mind, I am your brain. I've done all the work for you, I've laid the path open for you. All you have to do is turn your mind off and walk down the path I have created." Well, I have learned that there's great strength in diversity, that a clamorous discussion or debate is very healthy and should be encouraged. That's why I like our political setup in the United States: simply because you can fight and argue and jump up and down and shout and scream and have all kinds of viewpoints, regardless of how wrongheaded or ridiculous they might be. People here don't have to give up their right to perceive things the way they believe. Scientology and all the other cults are one-dimensional, and we live in a three-dimensional world. Cults are as dangerous as drugs. They commit the highest crime: the rape of the soul.
Penthouse: You mentioned that Scientology attracted a great many well-known or important people. Can you give us some examples?
Hubbard: Two of the people we were involved with in the late fifties in England were Errol Flynn and a man who was high up in the Labor Party at the time. My father and Errol Flynn were very similar. They were only interested in money, sex, booze, and drugs. At that time, in the late fifties, Flynn was pretty much of a burned-out hulk. But he was involved in smuggling deals with my father: gold from the Mediterranean, and some drugs --mostly cocaine. They were both just a little larger than life. I had to admire my father from one standpoint. As I've said, he was a down-and-out, broke science-fiction writer, and then he writes one book of science-fiction and convinces the world it's true. He sells it to millions of people and gets billions of dollars and everyone thinks he's some sort of deity. He was really bigger than life. Flynn was like that, too. You could say many negative things about the two of them, but they did as they pleased and lived as they pleased. It was always fun to sit there at dinner and listen to these two guys rap. Wild people. Errol Flynn was like my father also in that he would do anything for money. He would take anything to bed --boys, girls, Fifty-year-old women, ten-year-old boys, Flynn and my father had insatiable appetites. Tons of mistresses. They lived very high on the hog.
Penthouse: And what about this Labor Party official?
Hubbard: He was a double agent for the KGB and for the British intelligence agency. He was also a raging homosexual. He wanted my father to use his black-magic, soul-cracking, brainwashing techniques on young boys. He wanted these boys as his own sexual slaves. He wanted to use my father's techniques to crack people's heads open because he was very influential in and around the British government --plus he was selling information to the Russians. And so was my father.
Penthouse: Your father was selling information to the Soviets?
Hubbard: Yes. That's where my father got the money to buy St. Hill Manor in East Grinstead, Sussex, which is the English headquarters of Scientology today.
Penthouse: What information did your father have to sell the Soviet government?
Hubbard: He didn't do any spying himself. What he normally did was allow these strange little people to go into the offices and into his home at odd hours of the night. He told me that he was allowing the KGB to go through our files, and that he was charging £40,000 for it. This was the money he used for the purchase of St. Hill Manor.
Penthouse: Do you know any specific information that the KGB got from your father that might have been harmful to security?
Hubbard: The plans for an infrared heat-seeking missile in the early fifties. They obtained the information by extensive auditing of the guy who was one of the head engineers. There were great infiltrations clear to this day. There has always been an inordinate interest on the part of Scientology in military and government personnel. There's no way for me to prove it sitting here, but I believe that the KGB trained East German agents who came via Denmark to London to the United States who were, supposedly, Scientologists. They made very good Scientologists. They were very well trained.
Penthouse: Did your father do this just for money?
Hubbard: Yes. The more he made, the more he wanted. He became greedy. He was really just interested in the use of money and power, wherever it was or whosoever's it was. Morality and politics made no difference to him at all.
Penthouse: Did the Labor Party official get any of his young men via Scientology?
Hubbard: Yes. The British were ripe for Scientology. The British school system fosters lesbianism and homosexuality, because from the time you're born until you're in your twenties, all you see is the same sex. The schools are so segretated. And you'll notice in Scientology the focus on sex. Sex, sex, sex. The first thing we wanted to know about someone we were auditing was his sexual deviations. You know, in actual fact, very few people exclusively practice missionary-style sex. So all you've got to do is find a person's kinks, whatever they might be. Their dreams and their fantasies. And if you find that central core, their sexual drives and desires and fantasies, then you can fit a ring through their noses and take them anywnere.
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/penthouse-LRonHubbardJr-interview-1983.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/penthouse-LRonHubbardJr-interview-1983.htm
15 October 2015 13:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Muidugi eelmise jutu lisaks, militaarliku saiontoloogia osas, võib vaadata ka lihtsalt, froidilikult
""Auditing would address a guy's entire sex life. It was an incredible preoccupation. ... You have complete control over someone if you have every detail of his sex life and fantasy life on record. In Scientology the focus is on sex. Sex, sex, sex. The first thing we wanted to know about someone we were auditing was his sexual deviations. All you've got to do is find a person's kinks, whatever they might be. Their dreams and fantasies. Then you can fit a ring through their noses and take them anywhere. You promise to fulfill their fantasies or you threaten to expose them ... very simple.""
kuid võib ka vaadata niipidi:
"Scientology and all the other cults are one-dimensional, and we live in a three-dimensional world. Cults are as dangerous as drugs. They commit the highest crime: the rape of the soul." L. Ron Hubbard Jr.
mida aitab siis rakendada arusaamad nagu:
Hubbard called the physical world MEST (an acronym of "Matter, Energy, Space and Time"), which thetans (souls) temporarily operating "meat bodies" are meant to transcend and conquer.[23][24] New recruits to the church are often classified as "raw meat" or "raw public".Scientologists refer to their bodies as "meat bodies".
Scientology emphasizes attaining "cause over MEST", and attaining the ability to abandon one's body via "exteriorization" and ultimately by becoming an Operating Thetan Clear and a Cleared Theta Clear
(see kõik võin tunduda mõnele maapealsele "veider" ebaoluline, kuid samas see on "elementaarne" sest nii ju ongi, suure hulga millionite jaoks ja paljudes erinevates noorte ja vanade Vene-koolkonna uskumustes, mis hoopis muude nimedega... bioenergia koolid tulevad meelde, mida ka eestis palju rakendatakse)
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Võrdle seda nüüd järgmise, Penthouse looga:
http://www.playboy.com/articles/playboy-interview-tom-cruise
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_and_sex#cite_note-morton-22
See millest siin juttu:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message674682/pg1?disclaimer=1
Ma ise olen eri maadel mitmel koral auditud viimase 10 a jooksul, kuid vastustes vist liiga aus olin, et huvi tekitada millest kinni haarata, kuid noh... awardy psy profiil on ikkagi neil, tasub arvestada
Otsige ka German Scientology meeting, või siis anti scientoloogia, ex liikmete miiting, päris karme tõdesika sures plaanis räägitakse avalikult, ja see seo nüüd jällegi.. kolmetäheliste organisatsioonide ja nende taga olevate suur illusioonidega, plaanidega, millest nad .. greeka-rooma heebria vastane gey-s-ririik.. pole kunagi loobunud
""Auditing would address a guy's entire sex life. It was an incredible preoccupation. ... You have complete control over someone if you have every detail of his sex life and fantasy life on record. In Scientology the focus is on sex. Sex, sex, sex. The first thing we wanted to know about someone we were auditing was his sexual deviations. All you've got to do is find a person's kinks, whatever they might be. Their dreams and fantasies. Then you can fit a ring through their noses and take them anywhere. You promise to fulfill their fantasies or you threaten to expose them ... very simple.""
kuid võib ka vaadata niipidi:
"Scientology and all the other cults are one-dimensional, and we live in a three-dimensional world. Cults are as dangerous as drugs. They commit the highest crime: the rape of the soul." L. Ron Hubbard Jr.
mida aitab siis rakendada arusaamad nagu:
Hubbard called the physical world MEST (an acronym of "Matter, Energy, Space and Time"), which thetans (souls) temporarily operating "meat bodies" are meant to transcend and conquer.[23][24] New recruits to the church are often classified as "raw meat" or "raw public".Scientologists refer to their bodies as "meat bodies".
Scientology emphasizes attaining "cause over MEST", and attaining the ability to abandon one's body via "exteriorization" and ultimately by becoming an Operating Thetan Clear and a Cleared Theta Clear
(see kõik võin tunduda mõnele maapealsele "veider" ebaoluline, kuid samas see on "elementaarne" sest nii ju ongi, suure hulga millionite jaoks ja paljudes erinevates noorte ja vanade Vene-koolkonna uskumustes, mis hoopis muude nimedega... bioenergia koolid tulevad meelde, mida ka eestis palju rakendatakse)
----
Võrdle seda nüüd järgmise, Penthouse looga:
http://www.playboy.com/articles/playboy-interview-tom-cruise
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_and_sex#cite_note-morton-22
See millest siin juttu:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message674682/pg1?disclaimer=1
Ma ise olen eri maadel mitmel koral auditud viimase 10 a jooksul, kuid vastustes vist liiga aus olin, et huvi tekitada millest kinni haarata, kuid noh... awardy psy profiil on ikkagi neil, tasub arvestada
Otsige ka German Scientology meeting, või siis anti scientoloogia, ex liikmete miiting, päris karme tõdesika sures plaanis räägitakse avalikult, ja see seo nüüd jällegi.. kolmetäheliste organisatsioonide ja nende taga olevate suur illusioonidega, plaanidega, millest nad .. greeka-rooma heebria vastane gey-s-ririik.. pole kunagi loobunud
http://www.playboy.com/articles/playboy-interview-tom-cruise
15 October 2015 13:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Jällegi, mitte otseselt seotud need lood /(kuigi, võivad olla) vaid meelte laienduseks, millega tuleb arvestada.
Sellest pole suurt abi, kui sina arvad, et Sinu reaalne reaalsus on maapeal sedasi ja et nii ongi kui samal ajal suur hulk üle maa, toetab Sinu vastas olevat, kes räägib talle, et Sa lihtsalt oled madalamas vibratsioonis, reaalsuses kinni ning, et Sinuga vaja kaasa mängida mõnda aega kuid sisemuses ignoreerida..
seega vaja ennast hoida kursis erinevate reaalsustega, ka väljamõeldistega mille nimel inimesed võimelised surema lihtsasti, ja mitte selle pärast, et nad puudulikud ilmselgelt oleks.
Saionotooogia ka, nagu tead mille põhjal on tehtud.. kuid Väga võimas grupp, otse sõjaväega ka koostööd tegev, viisnurgaga siis... ja võimu neil piisavalt, et vene riigi tuuma otsuse surusid vene omas kohtus alla ning usas maksu politseile ütlesid Nemad, kuidas olema hakkab (usas maksumendid väga võimsal kohal, väheseid kes võivad presidendi kukutada)
Sellest pole suurt abi, kui sina arvad, et Sinu reaalne reaalsus on maapeal sedasi ja et nii ongi kui samal ajal suur hulk üle maa, toetab Sinu vastas olevat, kes räägib talle, et Sa lihtsalt oled madalamas vibratsioonis, reaalsuses kinni ning, et Sinuga vaja kaasa mängida mõnda aega kuid sisemuses ignoreerida..
seega vaja ennast hoida kursis erinevate reaalsustega, ka väljamõeldistega mille nimel inimesed võimelised surema lihtsasti, ja mitte selle pärast, et nad puudulikud ilmselgelt oleks.
Saionotooogia ka, nagu tead mille põhjal on tehtud.. kuid Väga võimas grupp, otse sõjaväega ka koostööd tegev, viisnurgaga siis... ja võimu neil piisavalt, et vene riigi tuuma otsuse surusid vene omas kohtus alla ning usas maksu politseile ütlesid Nemad, kuidas olema hakkab (usas maksumendid väga võimsal kohal, väheseid kes võivad presidendi kukutada)
15 October 2015 13:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
/(muid tegelasi mida uurida, psühhoanalüüsi jaoks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_science_fiction_and_fantasy )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_science_fiction_and_fantasy
15 October 2015 12:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Part 3, “23,000,” confounds our expectations again by following immediately upon the last sentence of its predecessor. The mysterious boy is kidnapped by the Brotherhood, subjected to the awakening initiation, and christened Gorn. He is instrumental in the completion of the sect’s century-old quest, a denouement for which Sorokin pulls out all the outrageous stops, masterfully employing two new human viewpoint characters, Olga and Bjorn, whose lives have brushed up against the Brotherhood in the past. Brashly and shamelessly, the author even manages to redeem what amounts to the biggest SF cliché of all times, the “Adam and Eve” New Genesis ending.
Amid all this apocalyptic adventuring, the “Ice Trilogy” provides a surprisingly trenchant examination of all cults and belief systems and nascent religions, from Mormonism to Jonestown, Scientology to Mayan 2012 Eschatology. There’s a comic-book quality to much of the action (consider how close Sorokin’s story is to that of the X-Men and their Cerebro scanning device that seeks out mutants), but Sorokin uses it to frame genuine philosophical debates about serious ontological conundrums. Ultimately, his trilogy delves with great subtlety into the idea of a life powered by mystical rapture — a notion whose fascinations and dangers require no translation.
// Just... aga nüüd alati pidage meeles, kuidas riigi propakanda, alati proovib leida maksimum kasu, igast fantaasiast ja leiutisest, jutust ja loost. Seega, arvestage ja oodake, kasvõi kalevipoja meeldivat sidumist millegi noortepärasega, .. mis mõtted viib ikka Rooma
Amid all this apocalyptic adventuring, the “Ice Trilogy” provides a surprisingly trenchant examination of all cults and belief systems and nascent religions, from Mormonism to Jonestown, Scientology to Mayan 2012 Eschatology. There’s a comic-book quality to much of the action (consider how close Sorokin’s story is to that of the X-Men and their Cerebro scanning device that seeks out mutants), but Sorokin uses it to frame genuine philosophical debates about serious ontological conundrums. Ultimately, his trilogy delves with great subtlety into the idea of a life powered by mystical rapture — a notion whose fascinations and dangers require no translation.
// Just... aga nüüd alati pidage meeles, kuidas riigi propakanda, alati proovib leida maksimum kasu, igast fantaasiast ja leiutisest, jutust ja loost. Seega, arvestage ja oodake, kasvõi kalevipoja meeldivat sidumist millegi noortepärasega, .. mis mõtted viib ikka Rooma
15 October 2015 12:38
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Part 2, “Ice,” immediately throws us for a loop. As with most middle volumes of any trilogy, it’s somewhat protracted and bridgelike. The book opens in contemporary times, and Bro’s recruiters are still active, continuing to search out the missing 23,000. But the conspirators seem to have devolved somehow from the plateau of Bro’s nobility, becoming more violent and meaner, heedless of the “meat machines” (all the humans other than the chosen Brotherhood of Light). In stripped-down, punkish prose, Sorokin offers some Russian mob doings (gangsters have become entangled in the Tunguska ice trade) and details post-WWII Brotherhood history through the eyes of a woman named Khram, the new leader of the fallen angels. We end this installment with the appearance of a young boy who seems destined for large things.
15 October 2015 12:37
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Part 1, “Bro,” starts out like an old-fashioned Tolstoyan bildungsroman. We are introduced to Alexander Snegirev, born in the year 1908 to a well-off family. From birth he’s an oddball, not fitting in, although he tries to play a part in the tumultuous history of the next 20 years. The naturalistic gravitas of this early section convinces you you’re reading a straight historical novel, and grounds the subsequent fantasy with deep roots. For when Snegirev tracks down the Tunguska meteorite that fell coincident with his birth (on an expedition that plays out like Kurosawa’s “Dersu Uzala”), his life veers off the rails. Touching the alien “ice,” he receives a revelation: He is one of an elite cohort, some 23,000 souls, nescient fallen angels trapped in mortal clay. His real name is “Bro,” and his mission is to reassemble his tribe prior to Armageddon.
The rest of “Bro” reads as if Kurt Vonnegut, Doris Lessing and Thomas Pynchon had rescripted Hammer Films’ cult classic “Five Million Years to Earth,” after mainlining Robert Heinlein’s “Stranger in a Strange Land.” It’s a Gnostic odyssey down familiar 20th-century history rendered utterly Martian by Bro’s perspective and insider knowledge. His death by natural causes at the end of WWII culminates the first book.
The rest of “Bro” reads as if Kurt Vonnegut, Doris Lessing and Thomas Pynchon had rescripted Hammer Films’ cult classic “Five Million Years to Earth,” after mainlining Robert Heinlein’s “Stranger in a Strange Land.” It’s a Gnostic odyssey down familiar 20th-century history rendered utterly Martian by Bro’s perspective and insider knowledge. His death by natural causes at the end of WWII culminates the first book.
15 October 2015 12:37
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/ Sorokin delights in an Orwellian buggering of language, even italicizing the worst perversions of speech. For instance, lighting a blacklisted nobleman’s house on fire is called bringing in “His Majesty’s red rooster,” while raping the wife of the disgraced man is “the way it’s usually done.” The oprichniks achieve a leering self-justification through such linguistic hypnosis.
But Sorokin also dazzles with sheer science-fictional wordplay, along the lines of Lem in his “The Futurological Congress.” The section describing the sanctioned audio-video channels for tame dissidents is one such passage, reveling in babble such as “the behavioral model of Sugary Buratino, and medhermeutical adultery …” Likewise, Sorokin nods to famous SF works: A scene where the torturers ingest drugs via living fish injected into their veins recalls both Rudy Rucker’s drug Merge and Jeff Noon’s psychedelic feathers in Vurt. And who are some infamous enemies of the state? None other than “the cyberpunks.”
It would be wrong to give the impression that this book is gray and grim. Despite all its too-plausible horrors, it remains a rollicking roller coaster of a tale, compulsively, LOL-ishly readable (the climactic gay oprichnik orgy is a tour de farce), full of unrepentant rude life force, much like Norman Spinrad’s classic faux-Nazi fantasy “The Iron Dream,” a debauched fever fugue featuring a womb-crazed return to some fairy tale past — and resembling, to our Western chagrin, a Tea Party convention where attendees dress like the Founding Fathers and spout reactionary bile.
Sorokin’s “Ice Trilogy,” here translated piquantly by Jamey Gambrell, who also handled “Oprichnik,” was originally published in three parts from 2002 to 2005. It’s a Cossack of a different regiment entirely, with each installment displaying a contrasting storm of weirdness that add up to a cumulative gonzo hurricane.
But Sorokin also dazzles with sheer science-fictional wordplay, along the lines of Lem in his “The Futurological Congress.” The section describing the sanctioned audio-video channels for tame dissidents is one such passage, reveling in babble such as “the behavioral model of Sugary Buratino, and medhermeutical adultery …” Likewise, Sorokin nods to famous SF works: A scene where the torturers ingest drugs via living fish injected into their veins recalls both Rudy Rucker’s drug Merge and Jeff Noon’s psychedelic feathers in Vurt. And who are some infamous enemies of the state? None other than “the cyberpunks.”
It would be wrong to give the impression that this book is gray and grim. Despite all its too-plausible horrors, it remains a rollicking roller coaster of a tale, compulsively, LOL-ishly readable (the climactic gay oprichnik orgy is a tour de farce), full of unrepentant rude life force, much like Norman Spinrad’s classic faux-Nazi fantasy “The Iron Dream,” a debauched fever fugue featuring a womb-crazed return to some fairy tale past — and resembling, to our Western chagrin, a Tea Party convention where attendees dress like the Founding Fathers and spout reactionary bile.
Sorokin’s “Ice Trilogy,” here translated piquantly by Jamey Gambrell, who also handled “Oprichnik,” was originally published in three parts from 2002 to 2005. It’s a Cossack of a different regiment entirely, with each installment displaying a contrasting storm of weirdness that add up to a cumulative gonzo hurricane.
15 October 2015 12:37
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ja veel.. et "In “Oprichnik,” it’s the year 2028, and Russia has reinstated the Tsar and the royal family, withdrawn from contact with the West behind new barriers, ceded Siberia to the Chinese in exchange for favorable trade conditions, and, most crucially for our story, instituted a new internal security elite called the “oprichniks,” of whom our narrator, Komiaga, is one. Given a free hand to repress dissent, the oprichniks have become a decadent pseudo-SS given to graft and self-indulgence, hypocritically masquerading under the guise of a monastic piety. As we follow Komiaga through the frenetic course of 24 jam-packed hours of brutality, venality, political chicanery and blind absurdism, we watch a country willfully plunge back into the worst excesses and injustices of the 19th century, while maintaining a postmodern, technocratic veneer. The oprichniks drive autonomous “Mercedovs,” get their news from holographic “bubbles” and employ ray guns and lasers in their depradations — as well as the old-fashioned torture rack and knives. The blend of antique and futuristic creates a fascinating literary estrangement, as well as symbolically representing our current global dilemma: tied between retrograde and forward-facing horses of stasis and change.
The brilliant self-delivered portrait of Komiaga and his crowd is an achievement on a par with Ray Bradbury’s “Fahrenheit 451,” a book that is certainly the model for “Oprichnik.” In fact, a literal book-burning scene occurs in subtle fashion at one point, as if in homage to the classic Bradbury text. As with “Fahrenheit,” the transvaluation of values is so massively and convincingly portrayed that the topsy-turvy world of future Russia begins to assume a nightmare substantiality equal to our current milieu, casting its unborn shadow threateningly backward in time."
The brilliant self-delivered portrait of Komiaga and his crowd is an achievement on a par with Ray Bradbury’s “Fahrenheit 451,” a book that is certainly the model for “Oprichnik.” In fact, a literal book-burning scene occurs in subtle fashion at one point, as if in homage to the classic Bradbury text. As with “Fahrenheit,” the transvaluation of values is so massively and convincingly portrayed that the topsy-turvy world of future Russia begins to assume a nightmare substantiality equal to our current milieu, casting its unborn shadow threateningly backward in time."
15 October 2015 12:36
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..."Just when it seemed as if Soviet SF might be gaining a faltering foothold in the consciousness of Western readers, the political empire collapsed, taking the Soviet cultural superstructure with it. Since 1992, interest in — and access to — translated SF from Russia and other ex-Bloc countries seems to have fallen nearly to pre-1962 levels. Only the novels of Victor Pelevin (“The Life of Insects”) and Sergey Lukyanenko (“Night Watch”) appear to have made even a dent in American perceptions. Now, with the publication of two new translations of the remarkable work of Russian satirist Vladimir Sorokin — jaunty, despairing, cynical, hopeful, traditional and postmodern by turns — an even more explosive impact seems likely.
In his native country, Sorokin — born 1955 — is a figure of controversy and admiration, even occasionally spawning public protests against his bold and irreverent fiction, which was of course mostly suppressed under Communist rule. Reading his newest work, “Day of the Oprichnik,” part of a concerted publishing effort to introduce him to English-speaking readers, one encounters a Swiftian writer steeped in globally shared images out of science fiction, but whose sensibility is deeply rooted in Russian culture."
Mis on vene kultuur?
In his native country, Sorokin — born 1955 — is a figure of controversy and admiration, even occasionally spawning public protests against his bold and irreverent fiction, which was of course mostly suppressed under Communist rule. Reading his newest work, “Day of the Oprichnik,” part of a concerted publishing effort to introduce him to English-speaking readers, one encounters a Swiftian writer steeped in globally shared images out of science fiction, but whose sensibility is deeply rooted in Russian culture."
Mis on vene kultuur?
15 October 2015 12:35
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Ja siis veel näiteks:
http://www.salon.com/2011/03/15/day_of_the_oprichnik_vladimir_sorokin/
"During its 70-year lifetime, the Soviet Union was the perfect Other for Westerners: a colossal enigma, alternately dystopian and utopian, onto which we could project all our fears, hopes and dreams; a funhouse mirror in which our own culture was reflected in amusingly warped fashion; an outré parallel continuum from which bizarre messages trickled out at irregular intervals, bearing cryptic hints of off-kilter wonders, quotidian strangeness and kludgy tech. The Iron Curtain was no mere metaphor, but rather an imposing information barrier like the force field around Coventry, Robert Heinlein’s land of dissidents, rogue ideologues, criminals and nonconformists.
Barnes & Noble ReviewIn this ancient era, science fiction readers and writers had some vague notion that the speculative literature of the Soviet Union represented a bracingly alternate family of narratives, a non-Anglo, non-Euro, non-North American, non-Latin American tradition of proleptic storytelling that sprang from an alien lineage of fabulism.
But solid examples of actual SF from the Communist Bloc were sparse on the ground. A few pioneering anthologies cropped up. Isaac Asimov, himself of Russian birth, introduced “Soviet Science Fiction” and “More Soviet Science Fiction,” both appearing in 1962; “Path Into the Unknown,” “Last Door to Aiya” and “The Ultimate Threshold” followed over the next eight years. Meanwhile, a few individual authors, such as Stanislaw Lem and the Strugatsky brothers, were plucked by Western translators like beet chunks from the Soviet borscht..."
http://www.salon.com/2011/03/15/day_of_the_oprichnik_vladimir_sorokin/
"During its 70-year lifetime, the Soviet Union was the perfect Other for Westerners: a colossal enigma, alternately dystopian and utopian, onto which we could project all our fears, hopes and dreams; a funhouse mirror in which our own culture was reflected in amusingly warped fashion; an outré parallel continuum from which bizarre messages trickled out at irregular intervals, bearing cryptic hints of off-kilter wonders, quotidian strangeness and kludgy tech. The Iron Curtain was no mere metaphor, but rather an imposing information barrier like the force field around Coventry, Robert Heinlein’s land of dissidents, rogue ideologues, criminals and nonconformists.
Barnes & Noble ReviewIn this ancient era, science fiction readers and writers had some vague notion that the speculative literature of the Soviet Union represented a bracingly alternate family of narratives, a non-Anglo, non-Euro, non-North American, non-Latin American tradition of proleptic storytelling that sprang from an alien lineage of fabulism.
But solid examples of actual SF from the Communist Bloc were sparse on the ground. A few pioneering anthologies cropped up. Isaac Asimov, himself of Russian birth, introduced “Soviet Science Fiction” and “More Soviet Science Fiction,” both appearing in 1962; “Path Into the Unknown,” “Last Door to Aiya” and “The Ultimate Threshold” followed over the next eight years. Meanwhile, a few individual authors, such as Stanislaw Lem and the Strugatsky brothers, were plucked by Western translators like beet chunks from the Soviet borscht..."
http://www.salon.com/2011/03/15/day_of_the_oprichnik_vladimir_sorokin/
15 October 2015 12:35
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Ja lõpetuseks veel seda teises toonis asja ""There goes my vacation," the inspector says to himself. "There goes that freedom I've been waiting so long for."
What is always striking about the Brothers Strugatsky is their penchant for misdirection: They can convince the reader that something is almost certainly true, only to disprove it the next minute to keep the mystery alive. In the world the Strugatskys create, everyone is a suspect and nothing is as it seems. And though the dead mountaineer informs much of the first part of the novel, things take a turn about halfway through: An avalanche cuts off the guests from the outside world, and a dead body surfaces. The reader becomes enveloped in a detective story, and Inspector Glebsky is the only one around who's capable of solving the puzzle. Even then, the narrative is fairly straightforward — that is, until the last section, when life morphs into a science fiction game and the Strugatskys rewrite history.
While other Strugatsky works were subject to delays and government opposition, The Dead Mountaineer's Inn did not suffer that fate — possibly because it's not quite as edgy as books like Roadside Picnic and Definitely Maybe. Still, the comparatively inoffensive material that makes up Mountaineer is no less delightful, and a must-read for a new generation of sci-fi fans everywhere."
st, meile, meeldivamas toonis kõlavana, kuid ka siin tasub silmi kissitada muiates ,suts ja vaadata... miks ja kuidas lubati ja milleks kasutati, iga rea vahel uuring.. kas kirjutaja hing oli lõpuni puhas, ideaalne.
Nagu me olema peaksime, minimaalselt
What is always striking about the Brothers Strugatsky is their penchant for misdirection: They can convince the reader that something is almost certainly true, only to disprove it the next minute to keep the mystery alive. In the world the Strugatskys create, everyone is a suspect and nothing is as it seems. And though the dead mountaineer informs much of the first part of the novel, things take a turn about halfway through: An avalanche cuts off the guests from the outside world, and a dead body surfaces. The reader becomes enveloped in a detective story, and Inspector Glebsky is the only one around who's capable of solving the puzzle. Even then, the narrative is fairly straightforward — that is, until the last section, when life morphs into a science fiction game and the Strugatskys rewrite history.
While other Strugatsky works were subject to delays and government opposition, The Dead Mountaineer's Inn did not suffer that fate — possibly because it's not quite as edgy as books like Roadside Picnic and Definitely Maybe. Still, the comparatively inoffensive material that makes up Mountaineer is no less delightful, and a must-read for a new generation of sci-fi fans everywhere."
st, meile, meeldivamas toonis kõlavana, kuid ka siin tasub silmi kissitada muiates ,suts ja vaadata... miks ja kuidas lubati ja milleks kasutati, iga rea vahel uuring.. kas kirjutaja hing oli lõpuni puhas, ideaalne.
Nagu me olema peaksime, minimaalselt
15 October 2015 12:34
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Tõsilugu
"First published in 1970, The Dead Mountaineer's Inn is a biting, deeply funny tale that sends its readers down unpredictable paths. Our hero is police inspector Peter Glebsky, a family man anticipating two weeks of leisure — his first vacation in four years. Soon after arriving at the titular inn, Inspector Glebsky finds out about a tragedy that occurred several years before — a man falling to his death on a nearby peak. Now, the inn has a museum housing many of the late climber's belongings, and a rambunctious St. Bernard, the last living remnant of the dead man, roams freely.
Guests at the inn also include a famous magician, a physicist, a hypnotist and a nervous youth counselor with a bad case of tuberculosis. This bunch of oddballs eats together, they play billiards and cards, they ski — and occasionally they share personal accounts of the spookery they've encountered since setting foot in the inn. Apparently some sort of miscreant — or ghost, or something — is wandering the premises, stealing shoes, filling ashtrays with tobacco, and leaving the shower running.
Arkady and Boris Strugatsky were acclaimed and beloved science fiction writers of the Soviet era. Together they wrote 25 novels, including Roadside Picnic, Snail on the Slope, Hard to Be a God, Monday Begins on Saturday and Definitely Maybe, as well as short fiction, essays, plays and film scripts.i
Arkady and Boris Strugatsky were acclaimed and beloved science fiction writers of the Soviet era. Together they wrote 25 novels, including Roadside Picnic, Snail on the Slope, Hard to Be a God, Monday Begins on Saturday and Definitely Maybe, as well as short fiction, essays, plays and film scripts.
Courtesy of Melville House Publishing
As is characteristic of many a Strugatsky novel, strange things are afoot in The Dead Mountaineer's Inn. The characters, so emotionally disconnected from one another and their surroundings, reflect a time of lingering pessimism and spiritual isolation, a time that favored scientific progress over human connection. Bleak as they sound, these factors often make for the most layered and well-imagined art. To apply the term "weird" here would be to label water just a touch wet.
One day Inspector Glebsky enters his room and finds a note. "MISTER INSPECTOR GLEBSKY: PLEASE BE INFORMED THAT A DANGEROUS GANGSTER, SADIST AND MANIAC IS CURRENTLY STAYING AT THE INN." The note goes on to claim that a certain guest is responsible for a pending crime, and MISTER INSPECTOR IS KINDLY REQUESTED TO TAKE SOME SORT OF ACTION. Finally, all the pranks and supposed practical jokes take on a more serious tone."
"First published in 1970, The Dead Mountaineer's Inn is a biting, deeply funny tale that sends its readers down unpredictable paths. Our hero is police inspector Peter Glebsky, a family man anticipating two weeks of leisure — his first vacation in four years. Soon after arriving at the titular inn, Inspector Glebsky finds out about a tragedy that occurred several years before — a man falling to his death on a nearby peak. Now, the inn has a museum housing many of the late climber's belongings, and a rambunctious St. Bernard, the last living remnant of the dead man, roams freely.
Guests at the inn also include a famous magician, a physicist, a hypnotist and a nervous youth counselor with a bad case of tuberculosis. This bunch of oddballs eats together, they play billiards and cards, they ski — and occasionally they share personal accounts of the spookery they've encountered since setting foot in the inn. Apparently some sort of miscreant — or ghost, or something — is wandering the premises, stealing shoes, filling ashtrays with tobacco, and leaving the shower running.
Arkady and Boris Strugatsky were acclaimed and beloved science fiction writers of the Soviet era. Together they wrote 25 novels, including Roadside Picnic, Snail on the Slope, Hard to Be a God, Monday Begins on Saturday and Definitely Maybe, as well as short fiction, essays, plays and film scripts.i
Arkady and Boris Strugatsky were acclaimed and beloved science fiction writers of the Soviet era. Together they wrote 25 novels, including Roadside Picnic, Snail on the Slope, Hard to Be a God, Monday Begins on Saturday and Definitely Maybe, as well as short fiction, essays, plays and film scripts.
Courtesy of Melville House Publishing
As is characteristic of many a Strugatsky novel, strange things are afoot in The Dead Mountaineer's Inn. The characters, so emotionally disconnected from one another and their surroundings, reflect a time of lingering pessimism and spiritual isolation, a time that favored scientific progress over human connection. Bleak as they sound, these factors often make for the most layered and well-imagined art. To apply the term "weird" here would be to label water just a touch wet.
One day Inspector Glebsky enters his room and finds a note. "MISTER INSPECTOR GLEBSKY: PLEASE BE INFORMED THAT A DANGEROUS GANGSTER, SADIST AND MANIAC IS CURRENTLY STAYING AT THE INN." The note goes on to claim that a certain guest is responsible for a pending crime, and MISTER INSPECTOR IS KINDLY REQUESTED TO TAKE SOME SORT OF ACTION. Finally, all the pranks and supposed practical jokes take on a more serious tone."
15 October 2015 12:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Järgmine:
http://www.npr.org/2015/03/19/392634682/mountaineer-is-a-must-read-of-soviet-sci-fi
"During the Stalin years, there were tight restrictions on science fiction in the Soviet Union. Writers were pressured and boxed in, urged to stick to themes of adventure, space travel and the glowing prospect of Soviet scientific and technological achievements.
But after Stalin's death and the relaxation of censorship policies, people like Ivan Antonovich Yefremov and Boris and Arkady Strugatsky started breathing new life into the genre, which had decades of catching up to do. And if Russian sci-fi can be said to have a soul, it resides with the Brothers Strugatsky. The duo collaborated on dozens of smart and entertaining books, not the least of these being The Dead Mountaineer's Inn, out now in a first-ever English translation by Josh Billings."
http://www.npr.org/2015/03/19/392634682/mountaineer-is-a-must-read-of-soviet-sci-fi
"During the Stalin years, there were tight restrictions on science fiction in the Soviet Union. Writers were pressured and boxed in, urged to stick to themes of adventure, space travel and the glowing prospect of Soviet scientific and technological achievements.
But after Stalin's death and the relaxation of censorship policies, people like Ivan Antonovich Yefremov and Boris and Arkady Strugatsky started breathing new life into the genre, which had decades of catching up to do. And if Russian sci-fi can be said to have a soul, it resides with the Brothers Strugatsky. The duo collaborated on dozens of smart and entertaining books, not the least of these being The Dead Mountaineer's Inn, out now in a first-ever English translation by Josh Billings."
http://www.npr.org/2015/03/19/392634682/mountaineer-is-a-must-read-of-soviet-sci-fi
15 October 2015 12:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Tuleviku ajalehed jms... /(oih..tasub meeles pidada) "Working with what they had, the idea of changing professions popped up in a number of different Soviet science fiction stories, said Pospiszyl. In some cases, "the main heroes switch, quite unexpectedly, their professions. In one moment they are captains of a spaceship in others they are archaeologists ... the reason was the authors were actually following the hints of information they could find in Marx," Pospiszyl said.
Other examples of Soviet science fiction were more blatantly propagandist. For example, Soviet citizens could often pick up magazines that were written and dated as if they came from 10 years into the future, Pospiszyl said. These magazines were supposed to be science fact, not science fiction — they were intended to show citizens what life would soon be like thanks to communism.
When the Cold War-era space race began, government and state-sanctioned science fiction writers seized on it as proof that the future of their imagination was happening in the present. Spaceships and space travel were seen as parts of a grander design to achieve a communist victory on a galactic level.
If it seems like all Soviet science fiction is very uncritical of communism in general (and the U.S.S.R. specifically), it's partly due to the heavy censorship that continued even after Stalin's death up until the U.S.S.R.'s fall in 1989.
It's also due to the fact that critics of the Soviet regime seemed largely uninterested in space travel or science fiction in general, said Pospiszyl. These writers and artists were more concerned with the here and now, and the problems that still existed, then what may or may not happen in the future."
Other examples of Soviet science fiction were more blatantly propagandist. For example, Soviet citizens could often pick up magazines that were written and dated as if they came from 10 years into the future, Pospiszyl said. These magazines were supposed to be science fact, not science fiction — they were intended to show citizens what life would soon be like thanks to communism.
When the Cold War-era space race began, government and state-sanctioned science fiction writers seized on it as proof that the future of their imagination was happening in the present. Spaceships and space travel were seen as parts of a grander design to achieve a communist victory on a galactic level.
If it seems like all Soviet science fiction is very uncritical of communism in general (and the U.S.S.R. specifically), it's partly due to the heavy censorship that continued even after Stalin's death up until the U.S.S.R.'s fall in 1989.
It's also due to the fact that critics of the Soviet regime seemed largely uninterested in space travel or science fiction in general, said Pospiszyl. These writers and artists were more concerned with the here and now, and the problems that still existed, then what may or may not happen in the future."
15 October 2015 12:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Väga vähe sellest, kuidas tegelikult oleks.. "Pospiszyl said that at the turn of the 20th century — when both "War of the Worlds" and "Red Star" were written — many people believed there was an advanced civilization on Mars. But while H. G. Wells interpreted "advanced" as militant and conquering, Bogdanov's "Red Star" interprets "advanced" as communist, and therefore peaceful and prosperous.
However, not long after the Soviet Union was established in 1922, science fiction and many other types of literature were banned in the state. "It was seen as a Western, decadent genre," Pospiszyl said at the conference. The "Futures of Eastern Europe" conference was affiliated with the museum's exhibit, "Report on the Construction of a Spaceship Module," which will remain on view until April 14.
Both science fiction and communist ideology are very concerned with the future, Pospiszyl added. "Communist ideology was based on futurism, or clear historical perspective leading from capitalism in the past to communism in the future."
In the 1950s, as part of the "Krushchev Thaw" that occurred after Joseph Stalin's death, science fiction was once again permitted in the U.S.S.R. That didn't mean writers could write about whatever they wanted, however. Futuristic science fiction had to take place within the U.S.S.R.'s current five-year plan.
This limitation was dropped in 1956, but even without it, the state still imposed restrictions, both overt and implicit, on Soviet science fiction.
"Science fiction in general depicts potential civilizations of the future or in the universe," Pospiszyl said. "Eastern science fiction had not so many alternatives. It was to describe ... a perfect world of tomorrow ... a world of communism."
In fact, said Pospiszyl, this vision of the future was so overwhelmingly positive that many Soviet science fiction writers had trouble thinking of obstacles for their futuristic heroes to overcome.
Other science fiction writers turned to the writings of Karl Marx and other communist theorists to find inspiration and guidance for what the future might hold. However, other than a few lines in his 1846 treatise "The German Ideology," where he argues that people should be able to switch their professions whenever they wish, Marx wrote very little about what a communist society would actually be like..."
However, not long after the Soviet Union was established in 1922, science fiction and many other types of literature were banned in the state. "It was seen as a Western, decadent genre," Pospiszyl said at the conference. The "Futures of Eastern Europe" conference was affiliated with the museum's exhibit, "Report on the Construction of a Spaceship Module," which will remain on view until April 14.
Both science fiction and communist ideology are very concerned with the future, Pospiszyl added. "Communist ideology was based on futurism, or clear historical perspective leading from capitalism in the past to communism in the future."
In the 1950s, as part of the "Krushchev Thaw" that occurred after Joseph Stalin's death, science fiction was once again permitted in the U.S.S.R. That didn't mean writers could write about whatever they wanted, however. Futuristic science fiction had to take place within the U.S.S.R.'s current five-year plan.
This limitation was dropped in 1956, but even without it, the state still imposed restrictions, both overt and implicit, on Soviet science fiction.
"Science fiction in general depicts potential civilizations of the future or in the universe," Pospiszyl said. "Eastern science fiction had not so many alternatives. It was to describe ... a perfect world of tomorrow ... a world of communism."
In fact, said Pospiszyl, this vision of the future was so overwhelmingly positive that many Soviet science fiction writers had trouble thinking of obstacles for their futuristic heroes to overcome.
Other science fiction writers turned to the writings of Karl Marx and other communist theorists to find inspiration and guidance for what the future might hold. However, other than a few lines in his 1846 treatise "The German Ideology," where he argues that people should be able to switch their professions whenever they wish, Marx wrote very little about what a communist society would actually be like..."
15 October 2015 12:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
(Reklaam selle Marslaste Loo vahepeal /(misomakorda seotud Päris marisil elu otsingute ja vee leiuga jms) : "Russian Society Explained
Social transformation after Crimea: A Guide for Western policymakers " )
Social transformation after Crimea: A Guide for Western policymakers " )
15 October 2015 12:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ja kes neid kõike kirjutab, kas meie ise, sovjetid või vaatlejad või..
http://www.salon.com/2011/03/15/day_of_the_oprichnik_vladimir_sorokin/
"NEW YORK — In 1898, British writer H. G. Wells wrote "The War of the Worlds," a science-fiction novel in which Martians invade the Earth and nearly decimate humanity.
A decade later, in what was then the Russian Empire, writer and Marxist revolutionary Alexander Bogdanov wrote his novel "Red Star," also about Martians landing on Earth. But in Bogdanov's novel, the Martians are not violent or monstrous. Instead, they invite the main character, a young Russian student named Leonid, back to the Red Planet to see the Martians' civilization: a thriving, peaceful — and communist — utopia.
The optimism of "Red Star" was mainstream, state-supported Soviet science fiction's defining characteristic, said Tomáš Pospiszyl, a Czech writer and art scholar who spoke at the "Futures of Eastern Europe" conference"
http://www.salon.com/2011/03/15/day_of_the_oprichnik_vladimir_sorokin/
"NEW YORK — In 1898, British writer H. G. Wells wrote "The War of the Worlds," a science-fiction novel in which Martians invade the Earth and nearly decimate humanity.
A decade later, in what was then the Russian Empire, writer and Marxist revolutionary Alexander Bogdanov wrote his novel "Red Star," also about Martians landing on Earth. But in Bogdanov's novel, the Martians are not violent or monstrous. Instead, they invite the main character, a young Russian student named Leonid, back to the Red Planet to see the Martians' civilization: a thriving, peaceful — and communist — utopia.
The optimism of "Red Star" was mainstream, state-supported Soviet science fiction's defining characteristic, said Tomáš Pospiszyl, a Czech writer and art scholar who spoke at the "Futures of Eastern Europe" conference"
http://www.salon.com/2011/03/15/day_of_the_oprichnik_vladimir_sorokin/
15 October 2015 12:26
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ehk siis lahendus, peab olema teadlik, ka sellest lõputust kosmosest kuid veelgi enam, sellest, et see siin on aluspind, mida kaitstes, saame liikuda kuhu iganes, kui valmis koorume,
kosmos ise, aga ehitatud sedasi, et seda võidgi jääda lendama, ja ega sa pärale ei jõua mujale ja kergemale tööle kus rohkem päris elu kokkupuudet saaks olla ja pikemat reaalsust kui see, mis /(arvatvasti!) siin kingitud, või millesse me vangistatud või sünnitud...
ja ega sünni kanalist tulemine ka lihtne polnud, ... ja kui arvasid, et See Sul raske, siis proovi mõelda, kui kerge see Su valmistajale oli... et kas Sa ise suudaksid, julgeksid sellele teele minna, et inimkonda hoida..
või arvad, et see ongi võrdne, et sa lihtsalt katust ja isegi mitte söögimaad vaid raha tood, lood ainult?
Et siis on nagu võrdne, 50/50 Sinu osa suhtes sama austusväärsed Sinu looja peaks olema?
Et jah... tõepoolest, raske, tõsidust hoida suures uues generatsioonis, kui uskuma hakataks,e et inimesed on bioloogilised robotid... et nagu kõik, on.
Mitte, et roboteid poleks... seda ei tasu uskuda veendunult, et pole, enne kui Sa all ja ülal ilmades pole olnud positsioonidel, kust saad kindlat kinnitust, mis siia loodud kunagi on ja kudias ja miks... seni kuni Sul aint selle ilma külastus ja usk on.. siis lihtsalt hoia vakka ennast suurtemate teemade osas ja ära narrita ennast arulageda lausega nagu " teadus tõestanud.. /(ja mida iganes, ta siis on või pole tõestanud, tuleb arusaada, et me teaduse ligipääs, kasutus, arusaam, on ÜKS osakond, teadustest, milleks SEDA teadust siin erinevatel tasemetel kasutatakse... sest ega pole lihtne töö kõike ja kõiki inimnahas olijaid omavahel toimima saada, nii, et kõrgemad madalamaid ei sööks, ka otseses mõttes, sest maitse hea.. ja sest madalam selleks loa annab ise pimedana süües mida iganes ette juhtub, veel üleolevalt, peenutsedes või tigedana lausa, mõni, et nagu tal õigus... on siis või ?) "
kosmos ise, aga ehitatud sedasi, et seda võidgi jääda lendama, ja ega sa pärale ei jõua mujale ja kergemale tööle kus rohkem päris elu kokkupuudet saaks olla ja pikemat reaalsust kui see, mis /(arvatvasti!) siin kingitud, või millesse me vangistatud või sünnitud...
ja ega sünni kanalist tulemine ka lihtne polnud, ... ja kui arvasid, et See Sul raske, siis proovi mõelda, kui kerge see Su valmistajale oli... et kas Sa ise suudaksid, julgeksid sellele teele minna, et inimkonda hoida..
või arvad, et see ongi võrdne, et sa lihtsalt katust ja isegi mitte söögimaad vaid raha tood, lood ainult?
Et siis on nagu võrdne, 50/50 Sinu osa suhtes sama austusväärsed Sinu looja peaks olema?
Et jah... tõepoolest, raske, tõsidust hoida suures uues generatsioonis, kui uskuma hakataks,e et inimesed on bioloogilised robotid... et nagu kõik, on.
Mitte, et roboteid poleks... seda ei tasu uskuda veendunult, et pole, enne kui Sa all ja ülal ilmades pole olnud positsioonidel, kust saad kindlat kinnitust, mis siia loodud kunagi on ja kudias ja miks... seni kuni Sul aint selle ilma külastus ja usk on.. siis lihtsalt hoia vakka ennast suurtemate teemade osas ja ära narrita ennast arulageda lausega nagu " teadus tõestanud.. /(ja mida iganes, ta siis on või pole tõestanud, tuleb arusaada, et me teaduse ligipääs, kasutus, arusaam, on ÜKS osakond, teadustest, milleks SEDA teadust siin erinevatel tasemetel kasutatakse... sest ega pole lihtne töö kõike ja kõiki inimnahas olijaid omavahel toimima saada, nii, et kõrgemad madalamaid ei sööks, ka otseses mõttes, sest maitse hea.. ja sest madalam selleks loa annab ise pimedana süües mida iganes ette juhtub, veel üleolevalt, peenutsedes või tigedana lausa, mõni, et nagu tal õigus... on siis või ?) "
15 October 2015 12:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
et kui noor on metsas, kännu otsas, räägid talle tuki puhtusest, samal ajal mehel on kotid hapud ja mõtleb oma nutikat näppides uuest Telegrammi uudisest Siiriuse osas, siis kui oluliselt ta keskenduda saab sellele vanamoelisele struktuurile, mis tundub meelte pidurdus olema, alusmüüri ehitamise asemel
15 October 2015 12:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
/( Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QniBGU5I97w )
Asjakohane jällegi üldise mõtte millega seotud osas, rohkem kui detailide endaga, otseselt,
alati vaata laialt, info kobarat millega detailid seotud Suures plaanis ja mis valguses siis need asjad on meie asja osas mida ajame, teeme ja majandame, mõtleme unistame, mille suunal ja kasuks Võitleme,
armastuses
Asjakohane jällegi üldise mõtte millega seotud osas, rohkem kui detailide endaga, otseselt,
alati vaata laialt, info kobarat millega detailid seotud Suures plaanis ja mis valguses siis need asjad on meie asja osas mida ajame, teeme ja majandame, mõtleme unistame, mille suunal ja kasuks Võitleme,
armastuses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QniBGU5I97w
15 October 2015 12:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
päriselt ka, uhkuse ja enesekindlusega, see meie kuldse soo jätkamiSeks oluline,
sest muumaiselt kes neid ilmu siin reguleerivad ja meid päriselt kaitsta suudavad, neid asju järgitakse rohkem kui enamust ning seega pikas plaanis need asjad ka tasuvamad tulevad ja saavad olema.
Sissesüstitud valehäbi meie keha, meha, ja selle osas mida vaja teha osas, tuleb puhastada
sest muumaiselt kes neid ilmu siin reguleerivad ja meid päriselt kaitsta suudavad, neid asju järgitakse rohkem kui enamust ning seega pikas plaanis need asjad ka tasuvamad tulevad ja saavad olema.
Sissesüstitud valehäbi meie keha, meha, ja selle osas mida vaja teha osas, tuleb puhastada
15 October 2015 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ja veelgi tähtsam kui relv, peaks Nr. 82 osas olema Riist.
Ja see peaks juba VÄga selge ja olulisel kohal olema igale Eestimaisele, alates neljandast klassist miinimum.
Ja see peaks juba VÄga selge ja olulisel kohal olema igale Eestimaisele, alates neljandast klassist miinimum.
15 October 2015 12:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
/(need pole otseselt oluliseks loodud nimed, kui nimed ise, aga kui oleks, ega sa ei teaks ka... või teaksid v?)
15 October 2015 11:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Loe Lahemalt
http://www.digar.ee/arhiiv/et/perioodika?id=2004
http://www.digar.ee/arhiiv/et/perioodika?id=2004
http://www.digar.ee/arhiiv/et/perioodika?id=2004
15 October 2015 10:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Loe lahemalt
http://issuu.com/kaitse_kodu/docs
http://issuu.com/kaitse_kodu/docs
http://issuu.com/kaitse_kodu/docs
15 October 2015 10:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Loe lähemalt:
http://www.kaitseliit.ee/et/kaitsekodu
http://www.kaitseliit.ee/et/kaitsekodu
http://www.kaitseliit.ee/et/kaitsekodu
15 October 2015 10:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
parandus, kodutu, aga mitte, kodumaatu
/(kuigi no, ka maatu... kuna maksu ka ei maksa..
/(kuigi no, ka maatu... kuna maksu ka ei maksa..
15 October 2015 10:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See telefon oli Amir Taaki ema oma: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1whu2x/silicon_roundabouts_not_for_him_meet_superhacker/
(in the bag was Amir Taaki mothers phone as well with working number where bbc sms s at times for interviews :p ...)
(in the bag was Amir Taaki mothers phone as well with working number where bbc sms s at times for interviews :p ...)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1whu2x/silicon_roundabouts_not_for_him_meet_superhacker/
13 October 2015 19:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
vau... linnas praegu kohtasin üksikut söääske.. talv ju tulekul.. mis nad,.,
13 October 2015 04:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nüüd on õigus eriti segast kirjutada, sest pole mitu päeva unes välja maganud... ja sams füüsilist teinud ... hmmm vaatab mida see keha ütleb. teaduslikult, kui Vaim otsustab, et nii saab,
eks ikka saab, aga mitte ilma vaevata
Et nagu jah... eks kõik on ka maine
eks ikka saab, aga mitte ilma vaevata
Et nagu jah... eks kõik on ka maine
13 October 2015 04:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja mitte, et see suur hulk masoone ja naate, *liite ja *kuid, (nagu poLiit-ikuid, uskli-kuid...) mind selle kõige osas aitaks, et nende elu KA korda saaks ja kord korralikuks... või noh, veel tuntavalt mitte veel... eks pean oma tunnete arendamisega tegelema siis veeel, et tundma külma ja tühja vitamiini oleku asemel...et oma kõva aseme asemel tunda sulgtekki
ei tea kuidas see veel tekiks...
(ei nu see takso asi ka sutsu seotud selle kõigega, nimelt lippasin tööle., sest jäin hommiku kella kuuesest bussist maha mis kohale viinud oleks...)
Eks vaatame kuidas seekord selle peale jõua.... et siis üks kaheksa tunnine selles kohas teha, armuasemeid ehitades....
ja siis peale seda teises linna otsas veel poole ööni joosta pakisaadetistega ringi...
Nu vaatame, kuhu see viib, kas viib selle viimase ka veel ära mis alles jäänud on
ei tea kuidas see veel tekiks...
(ei nu see takso asi ka sutsu seotud selle kõigega, nimelt lippasin tööle., sest jäin hommiku kella kuuesest bussist maha mis kohale viinud oleks...)
Eks vaatame kuidas seekord selle peale jõua.... et siis üks kaheksa tunnine selles kohas teha, armuasemeid ehitades....
ja siis peale seda teises linna otsas veel poole ööni joosta pakisaadetistega ringi...
Nu vaatame, kuhu see viib, kas viib selle viimase ka veel ära mis alles jäänud on
13 October 2015 04:26
Margus Meigo commented on Berit Masso's post.
Elsin ka selles kandis
10 October 2015 01:58
Margus Meigo commented on Berit Masso's post.
mis puutin sai ise ka aru millega ta hakkama sai selle steitmendiga v.. et ta nagu islamiriigi vastu v
10 October 2015 01:49
Margus Meigo commented on Berit Masso's post.
ja enamgi veel
10 October 2015 01:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
äitah kõigile jagajatele!
10 October 2015 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on Berit Masso's photo.
nääh...
10 October 2015 01:32
Margus Meigo commented on Berit Masso's post.
Teil mõlemal võib siin õigus olla
10 October 2015 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see on see tänaval elamine'
10 October 2015 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Saatsin meili Taki, helistan ka homme, loodan ka : ))
10 October 2015 01:06
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Lav ja man :D
BUt just... lets remeber... lets stay "gentleman" as of.. in the end, it is a bit of game "lets see if we can make best of the guys behave as jerks so they can be downgraded.. as they should have been known, mystery's about women..."
Female can reproduce without male, .. but male.. can only do it when female allows, according to nature
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203540055380233&set=a.1063407563658.9549.1780068249&type=3&theater
BUt just... lets remeber... lets stay "gentleman" as of.. in the end, it is a bit of game "lets see if we can make best of the guys behave as jerks so they can be downgraded.. as they should have been known, mystery's about women..."
Female can reproduce without male, .. but male.. can only do it when female allows, according to nature
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203540055380233&set=a.1063407563658.9549.1780068249&type=3&theater
9 October 2015 18:04
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kõrgeim poeg ei saa kunagi rohkem olema kui madalaim tütar, kui sellised mõõdud olemas on, sest need loomingud tulevad eri suundadelt, ja erinevatel põhjustel, ühtse eesmärgil
9 October 2015 18:02
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Naisesr siis juttu, selles kogu koguja eelnevas tarkuselõigus... Naisest selle päris tähenduses.. kellest mehele tehti ka võrdväärsena tunduv kõrvaline, et mees julgeks areneda kõrgusesse mis ta loodud on, mitte jääma mülkasse
9 October 2015 18:01
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's photo.
Wau,
kuid tõsi ta on... Proverbs 8.24 ... tuleb meeles pidada, kes oli ENNE ja .. ja jaa..
kuid tõsi ta on... Proverbs 8.24 ... tuleb meeles pidada, kes oli ENNE ja .. ja jaa..
9 October 2015 17:59
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
yo tom ya got new smile
9 October 2015 17:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
eip, aint kanep on saadaval kuid see ka 20 eurot
9 October 2015 16:05
Margus Meigo replied to Phaedra Sinatra's comment.
karvane on tervislik,
Habeme ja juukselõikumine on tegelikult me orjastajate poolt toodud vangistus mood, mis lisaks kõigele muule ka kahjulik füüsilisele tervisele, kuid see selleks : )
Habeme ja juukselõikumine on tegelikult me orjastajate poolt toodud vangistus mood, mis lisaks kõigele muule ka kahjulik füüsilisele tervisele, kuid see selleks : )
9 October 2015 14:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"..Anna mulle mikker ja näitan kes on jokker,
see pole siin mõni vanemlik lektsioon.
Konkreetsed on räpid, riimid ja poos.
Ma pole mingi maailma parandaja,
kuid rokin mikrit, sest näib miskit öelda on vaja.
Nuta või naera see on paras koom
on kodumaad haarand idiootlik sündroom.
See pole politsei ei poltergeist,
kes turvased on teinud meist,
vaid vabaduse illusioon,
mis mõnel mehel lõpu toond.
Pateetiline pilt kui mõni meeter null kaks
on sassis kui siga, kuigi ise veel laps.
Sa tahad rokkida, sa tahad tshekkida,
sulle näib, et oled mees, kuid võid eksida.
Igal peol on näha kari idioote,
kel mõistusest alles vaid üksikuid noote.
Seal üks ja seal üks ja seal veel kolmas,
kel kuul on peas ja ajud pole korras.
Milleks on sul vaja imeda igast sitta,
parem nüsi kohe veeni nii on lihtsam ikka.
Jobu kui sul mõistust olema ei satu.
SÕNA -- ära ni.."
see pole siin mõni vanemlik lektsioon.
Konkreetsed on räpid, riimid ja poos.
Ma pole mingi maailma parandaja,
kuid rokin mikrit, sest näib miskit öelda on vaja.
Nuta või naera see on paras koom
on kodumaad haarand idiootlik sündroom.
See pole politsei ei poltergeist,
kes turvased on teinud meist,
vaid vabaduse illusioon,
mis mõnel mehel lõpu toond.
Pateetiline pilt kui mõni meeter null kaks
on sassis kui siga, kuigi ise veel laps.
Sa tahad rokkida, sa tahad tshekkida,
sulle näib, et oled mees, kuid võid eksida.
Igal peol on näha kari idioote,
kel mõistusest alles vaid üksikuid noote.
Seal üks ja seal üks ja seal veel kolmas,
kel kuul on peas ja ajud pole korras.
Milleks on sul vaja imeda igast sitta,
parem nüsi kohe veeni nii on lihtsam ikka.
Jobu kui sul mõistust olema ei satu.
SÕNA -- ära ni.."
9 October 2015 14:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
aga eks ta läks ka kolmekümnendates ...ise arvan, et see piisavalt tõelne dream, et siin vaja veel toimetada, kuni turvaline ülesärgata on
https://www.facebook.com/kimoromik/videos/vob.1135161043/126995960299/?type=2&theater
https://www.facebook.com/kimoromik/videos/vob.1135161043/126995960299/?type=2&theater
9 October 2015 14:18
Margus Meigo replied to Edgar Špongolts's comment.
... selles (aidata) milleks ta meil sündida lubas
9 October 2015 14:12
Margus Meigo replied to Edgar Špongolts's comment.
ja "pilves" olek, tähendab meeleselgus, mitte meele ähmasust... aetakse sassi mürkide, tegevuste ja ravimite mõjul olevad uimased, uimas olevad inimesed segamini inimestega, kes uutes meelte selguste olukordades, milles vahest füüsilist keha kasutada ei saa, või pigem ,saab, aga pole vaja ja nii oluline kui hetke olukorras kogeda ja salvestada , maale tagasi "pilvest" tuua mida siin, maiselt meil vaja.. et ka teised sinna uksetaha jõuaksid ja päris sohu ei astuks, ega rappa.. neil kellel vaja ..
(maistele arusaadavas keeles, vastavalt kultuurile, vaja info ümber tõlkida lennult kuhu Vaimu või muude abil satud või meelega sisse keerad, nagu raadio kanalid.. ja arvestada veel hetke Ajaga ka, kuhu Sa maandud ja mille jaoks salvestad)
aga suur amps.. võib ajada põhja..
Kuid see risk, olla põhjas on ikka seda väärt, väärtusega, mida inimkonnale saaks tagasi tuua, kui õnestuks,
paljud surevad palju vähema eest sõjas või niisama... või noh, mitte, et sõdurite eesmärgid, suures plaanis väiksemad oleks, kui inimkonda jaloodus loojale meelepäraselt kaitsta, salvestada, säilitada ja parandada, ja aidata Naist
(maistele arusaadavas keeles, vastavalt kultuurile, vaja info ümber tõlkida lennult kuhu Vaimu või muude abil satud või meelega sisse keerad, nagu raadio kanalid.. ja arvestada veel hetke Ajaga ka, kuhu Sa maandud ja mille jaoks salvestad)
aga suur amps.. võib ajada põhja..
Kuid see risk, olla põhjas on ikka seda väärt, väärtusega, mida inimkonnale saaks tagasi tuua, kui õnestuks,
paljud surevad palju vähema eest sõjas või niisama... või noh, mitte, et sõdurite eesmärgid, suures plaanis väiksemad oleks, kui inimkonda jaloodus loojale meelepäraselt kaitsta, salvestada, säilitada ja parandada, ja aidata Naist
9 October 2015 14:12
Margus Meigo replied to Janxs Njh's comment.
see ongi, digipeegel
9 October 2015 14:05
Margus Meigo replied to Tiia Tips's comment.
.. või noh, parem ikka, või mitte, et see minu öelda ja otsustada oleks, kuid pigem arvestada heada
9 October 2015 14:00
Margus Meigo replied to Tiia Tips's comment.
Süda on noorem ja parem kui kunagi varem
9 October 2015 14:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Tegelikult endiselt, õues (-5 õhtal?) ...kuid ilusad mõtted, kodumaa armastus ja naise olemasolu kes rahulolevalt naeratab samal planeedil, annab sooja ja hea tuju.
Still sleeping out, from nationalistic colored sleeping-bag that got from England, Runniemeat camp, anarchist they say. Winter coming, but warm experiences with some dear ones and hope for country, keeps me warm, for now.
Nagu Sina kellega eila keskööni rääkisin, see, et Sa olemas oled, teeb juba iseenesest sooja tunde isegi, kui Sa mind ei tunne.
Bless the Queen (just,) and greeting to London Grew
Okt. 10. 2015
Kuid ikkagi,, seda kõike arvesse võttes... tegelikult, oh rahvas rahvas...
Still sleeping out, from nationalistic colored sleeping-bag that got from England, Runniemeat camp, anarchist they say. Winter coming, but warm experiences with some dear ones and hope for country, keeps me warm, for now.
Nagu Sina kellega eila keskööni rääkisin, see, et Sa olemas oled, teeb juba iseenesest sooja tunde isegi, kui Sa mind ei tunne.
Bless the Queen (just,) and greeting to London Grew
Okt. 10. 2015
Kuid ikkagi,, seda kõike arvesse võttes... tegelikult, oh rahvas rahvas...
9 October 2015 13:59
Margus Meigo replied to Edgar Špongolts's comment.
hahahahah :D
NU jah, pilves peab olema, muidu oleks maa all. Ja kui pilves pole, ega siis maad ka ei näeks, selle suuruses ja ilus...
(tõlge teistele ühiskondlastele: ei ole "pilves")
NU jah, pilves peab olema, muidu oleks maa all. Ja kui pilves pole, ega siis maad ka ei näeks, selle suuruses ja ilus...
(tõlge teistele ühiskondlastele: ei ole "pilves")
9 October 2015 13:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
year = {2011},
doi = {10.1177/0269881111420188},
abstract ={A large body of evidence, including longitudinal analyses of personality change, suggests that core personality traits are predominantly stable after age 30. To our knowledge, no study has demonstrated changes in personality in healthy adults after an experimentally manipulated discrete event. Intriguingly, double-blind controlled studies have shown that the classic hallucinogen psilocybin occasions personally and spiritually significant mystical experiences that predict long-term changes in behaviors, attitudes and values. In the present report we assessed the effect of psilocybin on changes in the five broad domains of personality – Neuroticism, Extroversion, Openness, Agreeableness, and Conscientiousness. Consistent with participant claims of hallucinogen-occasioned increases in aesthetic appreciation, imagination, and creativity, we found significant increases in Openness following a high-dose psilocybin session. In participants who had mystical experiences during their psilocybin session, Openness remained significantly higher than baseline more than 1 year after the session. The findings suggest a specific role for psilocybin and mystical-type experiences in adult personality change.},
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Participants were 15 psychiatrically healthy nicotine-dependent smokers (10 males; mean age of 51 years), with a mean of six previous lifetime quit attempts, and smoking a mean of 19 cigarettes per day for a mean of 31 years at intake. Biomarkers assessing smoking status, and self-report measures of smoking behavior demonstrated that 12 of 15 participants (80%) showed seven-day point prevalence abstinence at 6-month follow-up. The observed smoking cessation rate substantially exceeds rates commonly reported for other behavioral and/or pharmacological therapies (typically <35%). Although the open-label design does not allow for definitive conclusions regarding the efficacy of psilocybin, these findings suggest psilocybin may be a potentially efficacious adjunct to current smoking cessation treatment models. The present study illustrates a framework for future research on the efficacy and mechanisms of hallucinogen-facilitated treatment of addiction.},
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OMAYGOD HOW COMPLICATED THEY CAN MAKE SOMETHING so SIMPLE...
ITS SIMPLE, WHY AND HOW PEOPLE QUIT SMOKING AFTER THEY REALIZE THE REASONS FOR LIFE, WHAT LIFE IS AND HOW IS BETTER FOR LIFE
http://online.sagepub.com/citmgr?type=bibtex&gca=spjop%3B0269881115609019v1&gca=spjop%3B25%2F11%2F1453&gca=spjop%3B22%2F6%2F621&gca=spjop%3B28%2F11%2F983&gca=spqrj%3B15%2F5%2F633&gca=spjhp%3B42%2F1%2F71&gca=spjop%3B29%2F1%2F57&gca=spjop%3B21%2F5%2F525&gca=spjhp%3B44%2F2%2F120&gca=spijp%3B39%2F3%2F263
doi = {10.1177/0269881111420188},
abstract ={A large body of evidence, including longitudinal analyses of personality change, suggests that core personality traits are predominantly stable after age 30. To our knowledge, no study has demonstrated changes in personality in healthy adults after an experimentally manipulated discrete event. Intriguingly, double-blind controlled studies have shown that the classic hallucinogen psilocybin occasions personally and spiritually significant mystical experiences that predict long-term changes in behaviors, attitudes and values. In the present report we assessed the effect of psilocybin on changes in the five broad domains of personality – Neuroticism, Extroversion, Openness, Agreeableness, and Conscientiousness. Consistent with participant claims of hallucinogen-occasioned increases in aesthetic appreciation, imagination, and creativity, we found significant increases in Openness following a high-dose psilocybin session. In participants who had mystical experiences during their psilocybin session, Openness remained significantly higher than baseline more than 1 year after the session. The findings suggest a specific role for psilocybin and mystical-type experiences in adult personality change.},
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Participants were 15 psychiatrically healthy nicotine-dependent smokers (10 males; mean age of 51 years), with a mean of six previous lifetime quit attempts, and smoking a mean of 19 cigarettes per day for a mean of 31 years at intake. Biomarkers assessing smoking status, and self-report measures of smoking behavior demonstrated that 12 of 15 participants (80%) showed seven-day point prevalence abstinence at 6-month follow-up. The observed smoking cessation rate substantially exceeds rates commonly reported for other behavioral and/or pharmacological therapies (typically <35%). Although the open-label design does not allow for definitive conclusions regarding the efficacy of psilocybin, these findings suggest psilocybin may be a potentially efficacious adjunct to current smoking cessation treatment models. The present study illustrates a framework for future research on the efficacy and mechanisms of hallucinogen-facilitated treatment of addiction.},
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OMAYGOD HOW COMPLICATED THEY CAN MAKE SOMETHING so SIMPLE...
ITS SIMPLE, WHY AND HOW PEOPLE QUIT SMOKING AFTER THEY REALIZE THE REASONS FOR LIFE, WHAT LIFE IS AND HOW IS BETTER FOR LIFE
http://online.sagepub.com/citmgr?type=bibtex&gca=spjop%3B0269881115609019v1&gca=spjop%3B25%2F11%2F1453&gca=spjop%3B22%2F6%2F621&gca=spjop%3B28%2F11%2F983&gca=spqrj%3B15%2F5%2F633&gca=spjhp%3B42%2F1%2F71&gca=spjop%3B29%2F1%2F57&gca=spjop%3B21%2F5%2F525&gca=spjhp%3B44%2F2%2F120&gca=spijp%3B39%2F3%2F263
8 October 2015 18:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Mystical experiences occasioned by the hallucinogen psilocybin lead to increases in the personality domain of openness
Katherine A MacLean, Matthew W Johnson, and Roland R Griffiths
Journal of Psychopharmacology, November 2011; vol. 25, 11: pp. 1453-1461., first published on September 28, 2011
...high-dose psilocybin session...to assess mystical experiences. Despite...psychometric validation of the SOCQ...study of psilocybin treatment...preliminary validation of ameasure of reported mystical experience. J Sci Study...induced by psilocybin and LSD-25...
"
"Mystical-type experiences occasioned by psilocybin mediate the attribution of personal meaning and spiritual significance 14 months later
RR Griffiths, WA Richards, MW Johnson, UD McCann, and R. Jesse
Journal of Psychopharmacology, August 2008; vol. 22, 6: pp. 621-632., first published on July 1, 2008
...to spontaneously occurring mystical experiences that, at 14-month follow-up...hallucinogen|humans|mystical experience|psilocybin|psychedelic|religion...measurement, and empirical validation. Research in the Social...
"
"Pilot study of the 5-HT2AR agonist psilocybin in the treatment of tobacco addiction
Matthew W Johnson, Albert Garcia-Romeu, Mary P Cosimano, and Roland R Griffiths
Journal of Psychopharmacology, November 2014; vol. 28, 11: pp. 983-992., first published on September 11, 2014
...can occasion mystical-type experiences having substantial...Pilot study of psilocybin treatment for...preliminary validation of a measure of reported mystical experience. J Sci Study...RR (2012) Psilocybin dose-dependently...
"
"Self-transcendent experience: a grounded theory study
Albert Garcia-Romeu, Samuel P Himelstein, and Jacob Kaminker
Qualitative Research, October 2015; vol. 15, 5: pp. 633-654., first published on September 29, 2014
...2011). Psilocybin occasioned mystical-type experiences: immediate...external validation of participants...found that psilocybin-occasioned mystical experiences did result...increases after psilocybin induced mystical-type experiences (MacLean...
"
"Toward an Entheogen Research Agenda
Thomas B. Roberts and Paula Jo Hruby
Journal of Humanistic Psychology, Winter 2002; vol. 42, 1: pp. 71-89.
...preliminary validation of a measure of reported mystical experience. Journal...peyote,psilocybin,marijuana...facilitating mystical or transcendent experiences, particu...preliminary validation of a measure of reported mystical experience. Journal...
"
"LSD-assisted psychotherapy for anxiety associated with a life-threatening disease: A qualitative study of acute and sustained subjective effects
Peter Gasser, Katharina Kirchner, and Torsten Passie
Journal of Psychopharmacology, January 2015; vol. 29, 1: pp. 57-68., first published on November 11, 2014
...2011) Psilocybin occasioned mystical-type experiences: Immediate...2006) Psilocybin can occasion mystical-type experiences having substantial...2011) Mystical experiences occasioned...hallucinogen psilocybin lead to increases...
"
"An investigation of the subjective experiences of sex after alcohol or drug intoxication
H.R. Sumnall, C.M. Beynon, S.M. Conchie, S.C.E. Riley, and J.C. Cole
Journal of Psychopharmacology, July 2007; vol. 21, 5: pp. 525-537., first published on April 19, 2007
...the subjective experiences of sex? Does alcohol...histories. As forensic validation of recent sub...lamphetamine (MDE), psilocybin and D-methamphetamine...Jesse R (2006) Psilocybin can occasion mystical-type experiences having substantial...
"
"Do Drugs Have Religious Import? A 40-Year Retrospective
Huston Smith, Charles Grob, Robert Jesse, Gary Bravo, Alise Agar, and Roger Walsh
Journal of Humanistic Psychology, April 2004; vol. 44, 2: pp. 120-140.
...students were given psilocybin, the other half got...drug might generate a mystical experience when consumed in a...who had consumed the psilocybin still felt that they...genuine and beneficial mystical experiences. REFERENCES Doblin...
"
"Spiritual Transformation, Psychological Well-Being, Health, and Survival in People with HIV
Gail Ironson and Heidemarie Kremer
The International Journal of Psychiatry in Medicine, September 2009; vol. 39, 3: pp. 263-281.
...and initial validation of the RCOPE...spiritual experience scale: Development...Jesse, R. Psilocybin can occasion mystical-type experiences having substantial...Jesse R. Psilocybin can occasion mystical- type experiences having substantial...
"
Katherine A MacLean, Matthew W Johnson, and Roland R Griffiths
Journal of Psychopharmacology, November 2011; vol. 25, 11: pp. 1453-1461., first published on September 28, 2011
...high-dose psilocybin session...to assess mystical experiences. Despite...psychometric validation of the SOCQ...study of psilocybin treatment...preliminary validation of ameasure of reported mystical experience. J Sci Study...induced by psilocybin and LSD-25...
"
"Mystical-type experiences occasioned by psilocybin mediate the attribution of personal meaning and spiritual significance 14 months later
RR Griffiths, WA Richards, MW Johnson, UD McCann, and R. Jesse
Journal of Psychopharmacology, August 2008; vol. 22, 6: pp. 621-632., first published on July 1, 2008
...to spontaneously occurring mystical experiences that, at 14-month follow-up...hallucinogen|humans|mystical experience|psilocybin|psychedelic|religion...measurement, and empirical validation. Research in the Social...
"
"Pilot study of the 5-HT2AR agonist psilocybin in the treatment of tobacco addiction
Matthew W Johnson, Albert Garcia-Romeu, Mary P Cosimano, and Roland R Griffiths
Journal of Psychopharmacology, November 2014; vol. 28, 11: pp. 983-992., first published on September 11, 2014
...can occasion mystical-type experiences having substantial...Pilot study of psilocybin treatment for...preliminary validation of a measure of reported mystical experience. J Sci Study...RR (2012) Psilocybin dose-dependently...
"
"Self-transcendent experience: a grounded theory study
Albert Garcia-Romeu, Samuel P Himelstein, and Jacob Kaminker
Qualitative Research, October 2015; vol. 15, 5: pp. 633-654., first published on September 29, 2014
...2011). Psilocybin occasioned mystical-type experiences: immediate...external validation of participants...found that psilocybin-occasioned mystical experiences did result...increases after psilocybin induced mystical-type experiences (MacLean...
"
"Toward an Entheogen Research Agenda
Thomas B. Roberts and Paula Jo Hruby
Journal of Humanistic Psychology, Winter 2002; vol. 42, 1: pp. 71-89.
...preliminary validation of a measure of reported mystical experience. Journal...peyote,psilocybin,marijuana...facilitating mystical or transcendent experiences, particu...preliminary validation of a measure of reported mystical experience. Journal...
"
"LSD-assisted psychotherapy for anxiety associated with a life-threatening disease: A qualitative study of acute and sustained subjective effects
Peter Gasser, Katharina Kirchner, and Torsten Passie
Journal of Psychopharmacology, January 2015; vol. 29, 1: pp. 57-68., first published on November 11, 2014
...2011) Psilocybin occasioned mystical-type experiences: Immediate...2006) Psilocybin can occasion mystical-type experiences having substantial...2011) Mystical experiences occasioned...hallucinogen psilocybin lead to increases...
"
"An investigation of the subjective experiences of sex after alcohol or drug intoxication
H.R. Sumnall, C.M. Beynon, S.M. Conchie, S.C.E. Riley, and J.C. Cole
Journal of Psychopharmacology, July 2007; vol. 21, 5: pp. 525-537., first published on April 19, 2007
...the subjective experiences of sex? Does alcohol...histories. As forensic validation of recent sub...lamphetamine (MDE), psilocybin and D-methamphetamine...Jesse R (2006) Psilocybin can occasion mystical-type experiences having substantial...
"
"Do Drugs Have Religious Import? A 40-Year Retrospective
Huston Smith, Charles Grob, Robert Jesse, Gary Bravo, Alise Agar, and Roger Walsh
Journal of Humanistic Psychology, April 2004; vol. 44, 2: pp. 120-140.
...students were given psilocybin, the other half got...drug might generate a mystical experience when consumed in a...who had consumed the psilocybin still felt that they...genuine and beneficial mystical experiences. REFERENCES Doblin...
"
"Spiritual Transformation, Psychological Well-Being, Health, and Survival in People with HIV
Gail Ironson and Heidemarie Kremer
The International Journal of Psychiatry in Medicine, September 2009; vol. 39, 3: pp. 263-281.
...and initial validation of the RCOPE...spiritual experience scale: Development...Jesse, R. Psilocybin can occasion mystical-type experiences having substantial...Jesse R. Psilocybin can occasion mystical- type experiences having substantial...
"
8 October 2015 18:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Including:
"Book Section: On The Creation Of Beauty And Thought: The Unique As Vicissitude
Joseph T. Coltrera
Journal of the American Psychoanalytic Association, July 1965; vol. 13, 3: pp. 634-703.
...experienced a very similar mystical "penis pride." which...and the heterosexual experiences awaiting Goethe in...commitment to art as an experience in the dialectical...marijuana, LSD, psilocybin, or stimulus deprivation...gods and undergoes experiences beyond the reach of...
"
" The Creative Person and Non-Ordinary Reality
Stanley Krippner, Roy Dreistadt, and C. Clark Hubbard
Gifted Child Quarterly, September 1972; vol. 16, 3: pp. 203-228.
...perceptual deprivation experience, esthetic experience, the subjective...to stimulate the mystical consciousness. Aldous...result of lzumi's experiences, he and Osmond designed...1963) administered psilocybin to several highly... "
"Cumulative Author Index Through Volume 45
Journal of Humanistic Psychology, October 2005; vol. 45, 4: pp. 543-611.
...The Symbolic Growth Experience," 23(1), 108...The Symbolic Growth Experience: A Chronicle of Heuristic...The Symbolic Growth Experience: Para- digm for a...Skinner,Maslow,and Psilocybin,"33(3),42 GAITZ...and Isola- tion: A Validation Study of Ericson's...
"
"Current Status and Future Trends in Psychedelic (LSD) Research
Robert E. Mogar
Journal of Humanistic Psychology, October 1965; vol. 5, 2: pp. 147-166.
...D. N. Validation and Cross-Validation of a Scale...Personal Experiences which Predicts...Mescaline, Lsd, Psilocybin, and Personality...and Cross-Validation of a Scale...Personal Experiences which Predicts...Mescaline, LSD, Psilocybin, and Personality...
"
"Bibliographie internationale de Sociologie des Religions 2013/International bibliography of Sociology of Religions 2013
Social Compass, September 2013; vol. 60, 3: pp. 362-440.
...R., Factor Analysis of the Mystical Experience Questionnaire: A Study of Experiences Occasioned by the Hallucinogen Psilocybin. Jour. Sc. St. Rel., 2012...Occupational Conditions and Pastoral Experiences in a Sample of United Methodist... "
"Research on the history of psychiatry: Dissertation Abstracts, 2010 (Part 1)
History of Psychiatry, September 2012; vol. 23, 3: pp. 378-384.
...J.K. Rowling. Psilocybin and spiritual experience. Bunch, Kevin Sean...have confirmed that psilocybin mushrooms can facilitate mystical experiences that have lasting...writings. An empirical validation of Viktor Frankl's...
"
"Recreational 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methylamphetamine (MDMA) or ‘ecstasy’ and self-focused compassion: Preliminary steps in the development of a therapeutic psychopharmacology of contemplative practices
Sunjeev K Kamboj, Emma J Kilford, Stephanie Minchin, Abigail Moss, Will Lawn, Ravi K Das, Caroline J Falconer, Paul Gilbert, H Valerie Curran, and Tom P Freeman
Journal of Psychopharmacology, September 2015; vol. 29, 9: pp. 961-970., first published on May 18, 2015
...et al. (2011) Psilocybin occasioned mystical-type experiences: Immediate and...varieties of ecstatic experience: An exploration of the subjective experiences of ecstasy. Journal...Development and validation of an internationally...
"
http://online.sagepub.com/search?fulltext=Validation++Mystical+Experience++psilocybin&x=5&y=9&src=hw&andorexactfulltext=and&submit=yes
"Book Section: On The Creation Of Beauty And Thought: The Unique As Vicissitude
Joseph T. Coltrera
Journal of the American Psychoanalytic Association, July 1965; vol. 13, 3: pp. 634-703.
...experienced a very similar mystical "penis pride." which...and the heterosexual experiences awaiting Goethe in...commitment to art as an experience in the dialectical...marijuana, LSD, psilocybin, or stimulus deprivation...gods and undergoes experiences beyond the reach of...
"
" The Creative Person and Non-Ordinary Reality
Stanley Krippner, Roy Dreistadt, and C. Clark Hubbard
Gifted Child Quarterly, September 1972; vol. 16, 3: pp. 203-228.
...perceptual deprivation experience, esthetic experience, the subjective...to stimulate the mystical consciousness. Aldous...result of lzumi's experiences, he and Osmond designed...1963) administered psilocybin to several highly... "
"Cumulative Author Index Through Volume 45
Journal of Humanistic Psychology, October 2005; vol. 45, 4: pp. 543-611.
...The Symbolic Growth Experience," 23(1), 108...The Symbolic Growth Experience: A Chronicle of Heuristic...The Symbolic Growth Experience: Para- digm for a...Skinner,Maslow,and Psilocybin,"33(3),42 GAITZ...and Isola- tion: A Validation Study of Ericson's...
"
"Current Status and Future Trends in Psychedelic (LSD) Research
Robert E. Mogar
Journal of Humanistic Psychology, October 1965; vol. 5, 2: pp. 147-166.
...D. N. Validation and Cross-Validation of a Scale...Personal Experiences which Predicts...Mescaline, Lsd, Psilocybin, and Personality...and Cross-Validation of a Scale...Personal Experiences which Predicts...Mescaline, LSD, Psilocybin, and Personality...
"
"Bibliographie internationale de Sociologie des Religions 2013/International bibliography of Sociology of Religions 2013
Social Compass, September 2013; vol. 60, 3: pp. 362-440.
...R., Factor Analysis of the Mystical Experience Questionnaire: A Study of Experiences Occasioned by the Hallucinogen Psilocybin. Jour. Sc. St. Rel., 2012...Occupational Conditions and Pastoral Experiences in a Sample of United Methodist... "
"Research on the history of psychiatry: Dissertation Abstracts, 2010 (Part 1)
History of Psychiatry, September 2012; vol. 23, 3: pp. 378-384.
...J.K. Rowling. Psilocybin and spiritual experience. Bunch, Kevin Sean...have confirmed that psilocybin mushrooms can facilitate mystical experiences that have lasting...writings. An empirical validation of Viktor Frankl's...
"
"Recreational 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methylamphetamine (MDMA) or ‘ecstasy’ and self-focused compassion: Preliminary steps in the development of a therapeutic psychopharmacology of contemplative practices
Sunjeev K Kamboj, Emma J Kilford, Stephanie Minchin, Abigail Moss, Will Lawn, Ravi K Das, Caroline J Falconer, Paul Gilbert, H Valerie Curran, and Tom P Freeman
Journal of Psychopharmacology, September 2015; vol. 29, 9: pp. 961-970., first published on May 18, 2015
...et al. (2011) Psilocybin occasioned mystical-type experiences: Immediate and...varieties of ecstatic experience: An exploration of the subjective experiences of ecstasy. Journal...Development and validation of an internationally...
"
http://online.sagepub.com/search?fulltext=Validation++Mystical+Experience++psilocybin&x=5&y=9&src=hw&andorexactfulltext=and&submit=yes
http://online.sagepub.com/search?fulltext=Validation++Mystical+Experience++psilocybin&x=5&y=9&src=hw&andorexactfulltext=and&submit=yes
8 October 2015 18:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
bushing yourself to high, you lose the high place as well that is reserved to the ones who "Make it" at Humans or in to human family8 October 2015 17:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
specially the spiritual ones at times, who want to force on to us the "all is equal" and "we all god" thing, to eliminate what is god trough Her8 October 2015 17:41
Margus Meigo commented on Victor C Forsythe's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
man to often have hard time accepting, that world is female8 October 2015 17:37
Margus Meigo replied to Victor C Forsythe's comment.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
spiritual machine robot being and Female God who made Him8 October 2015 17:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
minu, st
7 October 2015 09:17
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Wau Wau Tarmo, mis tujud Sul keset ööd on, ja pole ju laupäevaöögi veel :p
7 October 2015 00:23
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
heas mõttes
5 October 2015 22:56
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis van Kaldalu's photo.
Täna Jehovakate peastaabis era visiidil olin, mitu tundi suured lahingud pidasime... pidin pehmendama ennast mitmeid kordi.. kuid eks näis.. kas midagi liikus.. kuigi nad nii liigutamatud tunduvad, sest rahulolu on liialt suur.
Moslemid kutsusid ka punti kui nende mosees olin eelmine nädal, kuid nagu MINU punti ise nad häbenevad tulla.. on tegelased..
soovitasin puust mosee teha, et siis kui kopa ette viskab saab tule otsa panna
Moslemid kutsusid ka punti kui nende mosees olin eelmine nädal, kuid nagu MINU punti ise nad häbenevad tulla.. on tegelased..
soovitasin puust mosee teha, et siis kui kopa ette viskab saab tule otsa panna
5 October 2015 22:56
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis van Kaldalu's photo.
Haa, good one! :D
5 October 2015 22:50
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
juudi vanad tegijad ise ammu isreali vastu protestinud ja proovinud seda ebaseduslikuks kuulutada... siiani pole õnnestunud ,sest nad veelgi rohkem vangis kui me siin... meil nagu vähemalt siin avalikult meedias jäätakse mulje ja lootust ka, et eesti sie juhib.. ükspäev.. riigi ja julgeoleku mootoris on piisavalt Eestlasi
5 October 2015 22:48
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis van Kaldalu's post.
mulle igatahes kapo, juudid, riik, kirik, naised, metsad ja see kõik meeldib,
kuid see, et punased mütsi pähe tõmmanud nagu kandoomi nii paljude pähe... need kellel see kandoom peas, nemad panevad muretsema, sinna alla kuuluvad ka nö juudid kellel pole habet ollagi ja Torast teavad ka vähem kui ma piiblist
kuid see, et punased mütsi pähe tõmmanud nagu kandoomi nii paljude pähe... need kellel see kandoom peas, nemad panevad muretsema, sinna alla kuuluvad ka nö juudid kellel pole habet ollagi ja Torast teavad ka vähem kui ma piiblist
5 October 2015 22:47
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis van Kaldalu's post.
aa oot millegi pärast ma ei saanud selles nihilsitis komenteerida, vb ei leidnud õiget nuppu üles
5 October 2015 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Estrada's post.
but in truth one is not dead, and one can be seen and met on another dimension, i know even NON religious women who had intimate relationship with him ... if one would only know, what is behind what we can not see
5 October 2015 22:21
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Estrada's post.
hardcore
5 October 2015 22:20
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's post.
Wellcome china!
5 October 2015 20:55
Margus Meigo commented on Humberto Durán's photo.
But more important is what its made of and what is inside,
5 October 2015 11:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
PS, ei pea vist lisama: serveerida jahedalt,
soovitavalt külma närvi, kõhu ja ilmaga
soovitavalt külma närvi, kõhu ja ilmaga
5 October 2015 10:11
Margus Meigo commented on Pagano Peppe's photo.
ya judzh a model :p
4 October 2015 22:15
Margus Meigo commented on Pagano Peppe's photo.
who, that bike :D
4 October 2015 22:13
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
We was in Estonia long time ago
4 October 2015 22:11
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
So true
SOmetimes You get more then ya asked for... but ya get in same moral level.. what ya asked for
SOmetimes You get more then ya asked for... but ya get in same moral level.. what ya asked for
4 October 2015 12:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
so yea, if ya think these institutes just work with machine guns and tanks, then ya must be dreaming : )
4 October 2015 12:16
Margus Meigo commented on Aire Johanson's post.
Minu poolt ka, tagantjärele, hilja pole kunagi kui veel pole hilja . )
4 October 2015 12:14
Margus Meigo replied to Kati Tõnismäe's comment.
oeh
4 October 2015 12:10
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Tõnismäe's post.
Aga ehk on sedasi, et organism teistkorda sedasi ei reageeri ... või on sedasi ,et kes alergilised need alati.. et pole nagu vaksineerimisega ? Muidu need sutsud ju inimestele kauslikud..
KUid wau, päris ellu õratav lugu, suured õnnesoovid, et kõik tänu palvele hästi
KUid wau, päris ellu õratav lugu, suured õnnesoovid, et kõik tänu palvele hästi
4 October 2015 12:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ahja, nad vist suts kaugel
4 October 2015 12:07
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Tõnismäe's post.
Võta paradiisi mesilaga ühendust, nad mesinukud mitmendat põlve
4 October 2015 12:05
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
its.. another species.. we gotta accept it.. and They, the Women, luckilly (or unfortunatelly for some) are from abowe... so they can, they more allowed, they have right to ...
but just, what makes it wrong, is that they ofthen hurt them self more, on the protcess of protection
but just, what makes it wrong, is that they ofthen hurt them self more, on the protcess of protection
4 October 2015 12:02
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Yea, can you imagine if guy would say to a women "Fuck off" after they are stoped
4 October 2015 12:01
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
and no one should test kindness
4 October 2015 11:51
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Estrada's post.
I think war is mental ilness but besides that, this is one nice gun
what is the type of it?
what is the type of it?
4 October 2015 11:51
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
OMG
4 October 2015 11:49
Margus Meigo replied to Oliver Kass's comment.
Group: Demokraatlik Tutvus
Oliver, näljane mõtleb ikka leivast.. (:p)
ja kui nende tisside vahele sooja teki all oma nina kunagi pista paeaksid saama, siis kurtmine ja norimine kohe kadunud..
Kuid noh, eks ta muidugi, päris kristlik pilt ei ole , kuid samas päris lahe, vahedusrikas, new age kunstilik ja eluline suts
kuid ma juba muus vanusegruppis, seega saan ainult edu soovida, ja turvalisust usalduse leidmisel4 October 2015 11:48
Margus Meigo commented on Merilii Jõeleht's post.
Group: Demokraatlik Tutvus
aww, emme lubab :D4 October 2015 11:44
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's post.
Sircus gos on
4 October 2015 11:43
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
hahahahaha
4 October 2015 11:34
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
and specially newer matter this one of the most famous old war movies , Dr strangeLove ". . . Have you never wondered why I drink only distilled water, or rainwater, and only pure-grain alcohol? Have you ever heard of a thing called fluoridation of water? Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?"
http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2010/12/23/fluoridation-of-water-communist-conspiracy-genuine-threat-or-both/
http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2010/12/23/fluoridation-of-water-communist-conspiracy-genuine-threat-or-both/
http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2010/12/23/fluoridation-of-water-communist-conspiracy-genuine-threat-or-both/
4 October 2015 11:32
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
yup, sounds safe
in fact, lets make it an requirement
Newer matter these far right conspiracy nuts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_controversy#Communist_conspiracy_theory_.281940s.E2.80.931960s.29
in fact, lets make it an requirement
Newer matter these far right conspiracy nuts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_controversy#Communist_conspiracy_theory_.281940s.E2.80.931960s.29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_controversy#Communist_conspiracy_theory_.281940s.E2.80.931960s.29
4 October 2015 11:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vhmone... that must be an Camouflage...
http://bastion-opk.ru/cniitochmash/
http://bastion-opk.ru/cniitochmash/
http://bastion-opk.ru/cniitochmash/
4 October 2015 09:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
4 October 2015 09:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
was reading at first... "... institute for passionete machine.."
4 October 2015 09:41
Margus Meigo commented on Aiki Obermann's photo.
yammy!
4 October 2015 09:37
Margus Meigo commented on Henry Westons's photo.
I have a theory where in practice everything works
3 October 2015 17:28
Margus Meigo commented on Henry Westons's photo.
good one
Not that this would be only theory in practice
Not that this would be only theory in practice
3 October 2015 17:27
Margus Meigo commented on Henry Westons's post.
wau :(
2 October 2015 18:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
pm
2 October 2015 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
oh, sobib see ka praegu, kuigi samsungi laadia just andsin ära
aga saab ikka, neid leiab
aga saab ikka, neid leiab
2 October 2015 18:38
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Vanasti me ikka laevade pommitamist ruudulisel paberil mängisime
2 October 2015 18:35
Margus Meigo commented on Maarja Külm's photo.
actually.. he owned the office.. so probably yes ... fingerprint jokes with Italian mafia xD
(lol, remember?)
(lol, remember?)
2 October 2015 16:06
Margus Meigo commented on Dan Stansbie's post.
Extra for Kaspar Gering or he is The One ? :))
2 October 2015 15:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see telefon mis järgi jäänud, aksepteerib ainult o2 sim kaarte, neid siit eestist aga laadida ei sa
2 October 2015 14:15
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Hendrickson's photo.
I still belive, is OK, and we must judge, according to the book
2 October 2015 08:23
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Hendrickson's post.
FInally, again
2 October 2015 08:22
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Hendrickson's post.
I thought it was long time ago
2 October 2015 08:22
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
yea thats how we do it
1 October 2015 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Tubli!
1 October 2015 13:52
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's link.
meie teadvus pannakse lihtsalt uskuma, et sellest sõltub kõik
1 October 2015 08:34
Margus Meigo commented on Helen Paljasmaa's post.
Just just, ja neti salvestusi ka!
30 September 2015 11:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and all the... http://listverse.com/2013/01/10/10-crazy-drugs-you-dont-know-and-dont-want-to/
http://listverse.com/2013/01/10/10-crazy-drugs-you-dont-know-and-dont-want-to/
29 September 2015 21:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and: http://gawker.com/5845033/dude-who-invented-fake-weed-cant-believe-you-actually-smoke-that-stuff
(but Army likes it, if to google army OR military synthetic cannabis... and as they them self designed these things.. i guess they know what they need and how to get people test it... )
(but Army likes it, if to google army OR military synthetic cannabis... and as they them self designed these things.. i guess they know what they need and how to get people test it... )
http://gawker.com/5845033/dude-who-invented-fake-weed-cant-believe-you-actually-smoke-that-stuff
29 September 2015 21:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Yes yes.. and its not as strong as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethylheptylpyran
( 0.0002 g is all the DMHP you need to get the average person staring at their shoes and giggling. )
( 0.0002 g is all the DMHP you need to get the average person staring at their shoes and giggling. )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethylheptylpyran
29 September 2015 21:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Plants that God has send to heal the world from the many troubles that we have seen in the last few posts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_strains
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_strains
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_strains
29 September 2015 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
hard to comment
29 September 2015 20:18
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
True that
29 September 2015 20:17
Margus Meigo commented on Gray Sea's post.
Thats why we need religion, or there would be just one Hoax system to manipulate You in to a slavery, again and again
29 September 2015 19:45
Margus Meigo commented on Henry Westons's photo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wS5xOZ7Rq8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wS5xOZ7Rq8
29 September 2015 19:18
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
But more then that, women of that real kind, would be best blessing
29 September 2015 19:08
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Some diplomats apartments would come handy for me now
29 September 2015 19:06
Margus Meigo commented on Gavin Currie's post.
Seriously, nazis even sent people to camp who tortured frogs or try to boil lobsters in water
28 September 2015 17:51
Margus Meigo commented on Gavin Currie's post.
hITLER DID IT
28 September 2015 17:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
... ja siis, kujuta ette, täitsa kaine peaga, leiad SAMASUGUSE Naise kellele mõeldes see kirjutatud oli, on. ja ...
... ja ta ei messsssssi kaaaa (nuuks? Või lootes edasi? )
Lootus hea seegi, teadmine, et olemas on, ja ... et on olemas, siis on veel... ja see kas veel ongi, polegi niii oluline, kui teadmine, et olemas on, nähtud on, ligi oldud on
(peaasi, et mitte ise vussi keeratud on, mis saab ka olla..)
... ja ta ei messsssssi kaaaa (nuuks? Või lootes edasi? )
Lootus hea seegi, teadmine, et olemas on, ja ... et on olemas, siis on veel... ja see kas veel ongi, polegi niii oluline, kui teadmine, et olemas on, nähtud on, ligi oldud on
(peaasi, et mitte ise vussi keeratud on, mis saab ka olla..)
28 September 2015 10:48
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
well, no wonder then
28 September 2015 01:18
Margus Meigo commented on Erik Kesa's photo.
milleks ennast CaCa "born this way" s kirjeldatavate kollide moodi teha, mit et nad üdini vajalikuseta oleks, aga..
28 September 2015 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
tehnoloogia on sellel maal, et peame taoliste asjadega tegelema, või oli see tähe lugemis kast otse samal lehel vähemaltki
28 September 2015 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
homos are ruing The Women
big time
(all the mental slavery things like high heels and unhealthy clothing is from roman-gay culture.. that tries to enslave women by making themsuperfiscial, by fake makeup, forced bras, bad higheels, unhealthy jeans, smoking, selfish additude and anty home agenda )
big time
(all the mental slavery things like high heels and unhealthy clothing is from roman-gay culture.. that tries to enslave women by making themsuperfiscial, by fake makeup, forced bras, bad higheels, unhealthy jeans, smoking, selfish additude and anty home agenda )
27 September 2015 16:03
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Anti's photo.
hey yaa, mis see asi seal on mida sööd nüüd?
27 September 2015 15:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Bitcoin Blockchain a Cryptor Trust Think Tank
We still good?27 September 2015 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Group: Erasmus+ partner search
I know helery, a bit wrong forum for that.. but hey..27 September 2015 03:19
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Group: Erasmus+ partner search
I also looking for partner
soovitavalt Eestimaist,
naist27 September 2015 03:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But Jews are so censored u almosut cant heard they excist, just Isreal is in media.. like what
27 September 2015 03:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x8yrgbqhc8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x8yrgbqhc8
27 September 2015 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrlUzkd8Z8g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrlUzkd8Z8g
27 September 2015 03:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
series related to that guy , that day where was that guy and what others say https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFDl6GA1DI0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFDl6GA1DI0
27 September 2015 03:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
We really do buy, or who ever needs and can,
Just some deals money, is key friend, but key is still, priceless
Just some deals money, is key friend, but key is still, priceless
27 September 2015 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
We buy the planet back" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0tCaOI0UYM
27 September 2015 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And language, in powems, is half purpose,
the stile, to write , by wordings, to read, in seperate way, at times, rather, then premade sentenses, thathasbeen, spoken by someone alreadyu, jey!
the stile, to write , by wordings, to read, in seperate way, at times, rather, then premade sentenses, thathasbeen, spoken by someone alreadyu, jey!
27 September 2015 02:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
27 September 2015 02:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
27 September 2015 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
I love even Gay rasses, at times, emotionally, i mean, mõistlikult suhtun neisse nagu ema õpetas
27 September 2015 01:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Tehre is a lot of files, some to sensitive maybe,
But mostly, ; good of whjat am collected, so where is the interests, when we start to share?
But mostly, ; good of whjat am collected, so where is the interests, when we start to share?
27 September 2015 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
What is the browser name, the question, and how can they help
27 September 2015 01:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
27 September 2015 01:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
On next picture
27 September 2015 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
oh question was indended, do you know What browser it is
27 September 2015 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's post.
26 September 2015 23:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
26 September 2015 23:39
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Margus Meigo so thats the part of the vaibs, that we use, to endgadge with our govermeNTS
26 September 2015 23:37
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
26 September 2015 23:36
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
26 September 2015 23:35
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
I think Facebook Co needs people who smoke in Telegram.ee office talking about bitcoin, NEW way..!
Four parties, 2 exchanges, one people who gets weed and bit coins or one another,
Four parties, 2 exchanges, one people who gets weed and bit coins or one another,
26 September 2015 23:30
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Margus Meigo well, actually i thought, and hoped same time, few other things, but so, well.
26 September 2015 23:28
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
did u see that gfuy jet who contacted me telling u send him about important matter, so i thought "well, it always is, important"
26 September 2015 23:27
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's post.
26 September 2015 23:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
amiri osas pange otsingusse, youtubesse: "amir taaki waffa", ilma jutumarkideta, ja see I AM Anarcy video. (vb seotud I AM moovmendiga nagu see liberal tyyp kelest oma profiilile rääkisin täna, see juut, )26 September 2015 21:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
Tema soovil, tema ool, ajame seda teemat praegu, telegrammi stuudios,teeme peale26 September 2015 21:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
26 September 2015 21:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
https://www.facebook.com/groups/911650972219933/?fref=ts jeey!Telegram.ee
26 September 2015 21:21
Margus Meigo commented on Miikael Volkonski's post.
Group: Piiblitund
rahvusraamatukogus oli 12 päevne piibli teema... kahju, et maha magasin26 September 2015 15:58
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Piiblitund
Mis Sa arvad siis, kuidas seda mõjutust mõõta, protsentides v?26 September 2015 15:49
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Piiblitund
Miks Sa alati küsid ette ära suuri uurivaid küsimusi, kui selline kysimus, siis pane kommentaari alustuseks ka oma arvamused, lingid ja arusaamad, kui iganes algelised need on26 September 2015 15:49
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's post.
Group: Piiblitund
SEFANIA 1:14-18 (KÜLL JUUDA ÜLE, AGA IKKAKEHTIB, SEST AEG ON SIIRU VIIRULINE, SPIRAALNE, UUESTI SARNAST TOOV KUNI PESU PUHTAKS SAAB)
https://www.piibel.net/sisukord.html?q=Sf#q=Sf
JA SIIS ON AEG LAUL VALLA LASTA, MIS SÕNU TUNDMATA JÕUAB KA KÕIGE HÄGUSEMA MEELTELT SELGE SÜDAMENI, sela!
LAULUD 88:4-13
https://www.piibel.net/sisukord.html?q=Ps+88#q=Ps%2088
Sest miks viha paneme rahava, paganate ja meie rõhjuate vastu kui viga, Nemad, ehk viga mida me näeme Nad paganad olema, on See Meie viga mis me suunas läbi Nende kes me silmas usutud suunatud, Looja Loal
Mooses Raamat 5, 32:18-29
https://www.piibel.net/sisukord.html?q=5Ms%2032#q=5Ms%2032
Et seega jah, Ükskõik KUI usklik usud olema ennast, aga Sa pole õiguses kui OOTAD "issanda päeva" sest eks ole selgelt palju kordi äeldud, et terve mõistuslik ei tunne rõõmuega ootust selle aja ees, et see kaasinimestele kaela tuleks.
Jeesuse tuleku päev ei ole hippide ringpidu. Kui me selleks pole valmis, KORDA TEHTUD planeediga, mille korrastamiseks meile antud rohkem vahendeid ja tarkust kui tuhandete planeetide meeleparanduseks vaja.
Ehk siis jah, kui Sa oled see, eks ootab seda päeva, tea, et Sa nagu laps segamini toas kes ootab, vanemate kojutulekul sugemise saamist, selle asemel,et proovida osata niipalju korda teha kui veel suudad, et oma usuga, siirusega, headusega teenida, korrastada sa enda patukoormat vähendaksid ja ennast püüdlikute päris usklikute leeri seaksid, selle asemel, et irvitades või hirmunult lihtsalt oodata.. sest ega Sa ju ei tea, millal. Ehk oleksid jõudnud just nii mitut hinge aidata kui tarvis, sest eks ka Sul ole täpselt niipaljuaega jagatud kui Sul vaja, selleks milleks Sul aeg antud.
Ja kui veel pole leidnud, milleks Sulle aega antud, siis tee seda mida vaja, paranda oma maailma aidates Jumala loomingut teda kuulates ja teenides ning julgelt selgelt kõige olulisema osas veenunud olles.
Aamos 5:18-24
http://www.piibel.net/piibel/?&q=%C3%B5nn&lk=38#q=Am%205
Oi kui tore, et tuleb Jeesus varsti ja Sa oled juba ette ära päästetud, on ikka või, oled ikka v? Kui Sa nii arvad, kas siis saadolla?
Ega vist ikka see otsus jää targemate ja targeima rakendada kuhu sinu meelevallaga uhke enesekindlus sobilik on.
Päästetud saamine tähendab, et oled leidnud võimaluse kuidas teenida kuid ka vastutuse see toob ja niisama päevanegi puhkus, eks ta vii Sind kohe nulli tagasi, sest ega keegi kes päriselt on saanud aru, ei loovuta oma usku hetkekski surma vastu, jöödes logelema enseusu kindluses, et ju sa parem ikka kuineed, keda Sinuga üldse ei hakatud mõõtmagi, need kes siia pandud Looja tahtel ja inglite töös, teatriga testides ja torkides Su usku selle pärisust selgitades ja väikeste ebameeldivuste kaudu Sind päris surmast eemale juhtides ja valu osas südant kasvatades (karastades, suuruses). Ei Saa sa olla nende silmis keda paganaiks pead alati targeim sest Sina ei pruugi näha selle keha sügavusikes Su silme ette pandud, pigem kindluse mõttes manitsege oma kõrval olevaid Usuleere, kes ennast erinevate siltide ja kuupevade ja kummardustega eraldavad, manitsege ja õppige ja uurige neilt miks nad nii on ja kuidas te ühes samamoodi, olulisema osas otsustatud saaate selle asemel, et uhkuses ja ülbuses lasta teistel enda südames alla mäge minna... eks ka nemad mõtle sama SInu suunas ja mis õiguses arvad, et Sul alati õigus jääb olema, kui Sa oma usku vähe rakendad, häbelikult,arglikult, harva ja mugavuse piires, ainult enda turvalise koguduse piires ? Mine kuuluta Dzunglis ja Ööklubides, Sõjaväes ja Nõiaringis, Sa ju teadku isuurt kasu kasvõi üks pööratud selles ringis teha saab,selle asemel, et ajada tühja tuult taga maa inimestega kes Su oma nuhtluseks siia pandud ega olegi loodud veel uskuma ja Sinu meeli rahuldama Sinu sarnasusega.
Mine vastamisi nendega kes juba usuvad, tugevalt midagi ja jätka, näidates, et sinu usk on midagienamat kui "Igale ühele oma" ja "kõiksobib" ja "hoiame kõik endale" ja "pole sinu asi mis teen" ja "igal ühel on õigus" ja "las inimene ise avastab..."
Miks ta ise, kui Sul keel meelte pööramiskes, käed tegudeks ja jalad antud liikumiseks ?https://www.piibel.net/sisukord.html?q=Sf#q=Sf
26 September 2015 15:36
Margus Meigo replied to Urmas Rahuvarm's comment.
Group: Piiblitund
Koit Kranig sellele küll ei tasu lootma jääda, et kui nii mõtleme, ja käed puusal ootame, siis SEE päev saab midagi head meile olema.
On jupühakirjas kirjas... et http://www.piibel.net/piibel/?&q=%C3%B5nn&lk=38#q=Issanda%20p%C3%A4evhttp://www.piibel.net/piibel/?&q=%C3%B5nn&lk=38#q=Issanda%20p%C3%A4ev
26 September 2015 15:36
Margus Meigo replied to Helle Söönurm's comment.
Group: Piiblitund
pigem ikka naerabinimese tarkuse üle ehk, et näe.. nii lambad.. aga piisavalt arukad, et ennast ise kõige targemaks pidavad jumal-ingel rassid pole suutnud täielikult allutada koos kogu omakosmiliste teadmiste ja võimu liitudega..endiselt ei saa sarvik jaladseinapealpuhata ja elu nautida.. sest ei saa meid sedasi, loodusega omakeskis toimima nagu looja kogu looduse on saanud.
Aga Ta, na va sarvik ei saa ühe liigigagihakkama, sest näe naise peale hammas ei hakka, et seda lõputut sügavust täeilikult talutada (või noh, pigem siis mitte sarvik kes Looja sulane vaid nosee ennast üle tõmmanud AlfaÜlburite pamp, langenud inglite ja süva kibestunute kari)26 September 2015 14:56
Margus Meigo commented on Miikael Volkonski's post.
Group: Piiblitund
Video siin, mis alg lingilt ei toiminud: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rDtfv5Wbo8
MUidugi tuleb meeles pidada, et need listd tehtud ka seleks, et päris kristuses käivaid iimesi inimesed ise maha tegema hakaksid, neid kahtlustama ja eraldama... kuid see sellekshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rDtfv5Wbo8
26 September 2015 12:36
Margus Meigo commented on Miikael Volkonski's post.
Group: Piiblitund
Ei tea kuidas ta siis imiteerima peaks ja inimesi valele teele viima kui ta oleks täiesti vastuoluline , vastupidine kõiges ilmselgelt ja nähtavalt.. siis... siis ta omad lüüks ta ka maha ju :D26 September 2015 12:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Various theorists have espoused legal philosophies similar to "anarcho-capitalism." The first person to use the term, however, was Murray Rothbard, who in the mid-20th century synthesized elements from the Austrian School of economics, classical liberalism, and 19th-century American individualist anarchists.[72] According to Llewellyn Rockwell, Rothbard is the "conscience" of all the various strains of libertarian anarchism, whose contemporary advocates are former "colleagues" of Rothbard personally inspired by his example
During his years at graduate school in the late 1940s, Murray Rothbard considered whether a strict laissez-faire policy would require that private police agencies replace government protective services. He visited Baldy Harper, a founder of the Foundation for Economic Education, who doubted the need for any government whatsoever. During this period, Rothbard was influenced by nineteenth-century American individualist anarchists, like Lysander Spooner and Benjamin Tucker, and the Belgian economist Gustave de Molinari who wrote about how such a system could work
Rothbard began to consider himself a private property anarchist in 1950 and later began to use "anarcho-capitalist" to describe his political ideology
In Man, Economy, and State, Rothbard divides the various kinds of state intervention in three categories: "autistic intervention", which is interference with private non-economic activities; "binary intervention", which is forced exchange between individuals and the state; and "triangular intervention", which is state-mandated exchange between individuals. According to Sanford Ikeda, Rothbard's typology "eliminates the gaps and inconsistencies that appear in Mises's original formulation.
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Michael O'Malley, Associate Professor of History at George Mason University, characterizes Rothbard's "overall tone regard[ing]" the Civil Rights Movement and the women's suffrage movement to be "contemptuous and hostile".[81] Rothbard vilified women's rights activists, attributing the growth of the welfare state to politically active spinsters "whose busybody inclinations were not fettered by the responsibilities of health and heart". Rothbard had pointed out in his 'Origins of the Welfare State' that progressives had evolved from elitist Gilded Age pietist Protestants that wanted to bring a secularized version of millennialism under a welfare state, which was spearheaded by a "shock troop of Yankee protestant and Jewish women and lesbian spinsters."[82]
Rothbard called for the elimination of "the entire 'civil rights' structure" stating that it "tramples on the property rights of every American." Rothbard also urged the (state) police to crack down on "street criminals", writing that "cops must be unleashed" and "allowed to administer instant punishment, subject of course to liability when they are in error". He also advocated that the police "clear the streets of bums and vagrants", and quipped "Hopefully they will return to the productive classes of society from the cosseted bum class" in response to the question of where these people would go after being removed from public property.[83]
Rothbard held strong opinions about many leaders of the civil rights movement. He considered black separatist Malcolm X to be a "great black leader" and integrationist Martin Luther King to be favored by whites because he "was the major restraining force on the developing Negro revolutionMichael O'Malley, Associate Professor of History at George Mason University, characterizes Rothbard's "overall tone regard[ing]" the Civil Rights Movement and the women's suffrage movement to be "contemptuous and hostile".[81] Rothbard vilified women's rights activists, attributing the growth of the welfare state to politically active spinsters "whose busybody inclinations were not fettered by the responsibilities of health and heart". Rothbard had pointed out in his 'Origins of the Welfare State' that progressives had evolved from elitist Gilded Age pietist Protestants that wanted to bring a secularized version of millennialism under a welfare state, which was spearheaded by a "shock troop of Yankee protestant and Jewish women and lesbian spinsters."[82]
Rothbard called for the elimination of "the entire 'civil rights' structure" stating that it "tramples on the property rights of every American." Rothbard also urged the (state) police to crack down on "street criminals", writing that "cops must be unleashed" and "allowed to administer instant punishment, subject of course to liability when they are in error". He also advocated that the police "clear the streets of bums and vagrants", and quipped "Hopefully they will return to the productive classes of society from the cosseted bum class" in response to the question of where these people would go after being removed from public property.[83]
Rothbard held strong opinions about many leaders of the civil rights movement. He considered black separatist Malcolm X to be a "great black leader" and integrationist Martin Luther King to be favored by whites because he "was the major restraining force on the developing Negro revolution
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Both Michael O'Malley and political scientist Jean Hardisty have noted Rothbard's "praise" of the argument, made in Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray's book The Bell Curve, that blacks are genetically inferior to whites with respect to intelligence.[88] Both authors quote Rothbard's remark that intellectual and "temperamental" differences between races are “self-evident”.
O'Malley quotes Rothbard as stating that public acceptance of the book's thesis "would put a bullet through the heart of the egalitarian socialist project", by providing an intellectual justification for racial inequalities
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As a young man, Rothbard considered himself part of the Old Right, an anti-statist and anti-interventionist branch of the Republican Party. In the 1948 presidential election, Rothbard, "as a Jewish student at Columbia, horrified his peers by organizing a Students for Strom Thurmond chapter, so staunchly did he believe in states' rights."[114]
By the late 1960s, Rothbard's "long and winding yet somehow consistent road had taken him from anti-New Deal and anti-interventionist Robert Taft supporter into friendship with the quasi-pacifist Nebraska Republican Congressman Howard Buffett (father of Warren Buffett) then over to the League of (Adlai) Stevensonian Democrats and, by 1968, into tentative comradeship with the anarchist factions of the New Left.
// okey.. this guy .. needs more reading (and am not just thinking that on positive way, but hes leftist brain is way big to just explain him away... seems a lot of work and reading and things he did. powerful ways. respect for that)
During his years at graduate school in the late 1940s, Murray Rothbard considered whether a strict laissez-faire policy would require that private police agencies replace government protective services. He visited Baldy Harper, a founder of the Foundation for Economic Education, who doubted the need for any government whatsoever. During this period, Rothbard was influenced by nineteenth-century American individualist anarchists, like Lysander Spooner and Benjamin Tucker, and the Belgian economist Gustave de Molinari who wrote about how such a system could work
Rothbard began to consider himself a private property anarchist in 1950 and later began to use "anarcho-capitalist" to describe his political ideology
In Man, Economy, and State, Rothbard divides the various kinds of state intervention in three categories: "autistic intervention", which is interference with private non-economic activities; "binary intervention", which is forced exchange between individuals and the state; and "triangular intervention", which is state-mandated exchange between individuals. According to Sanford Ikeda, Rothbard's typology "eliminates the gaps and inconsistencies that appear in Mises's original formulation.
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Michael O'Malley, Associate Professor of History at George Mason University, characterizes Rothbard's "overall tone regard[ing]" the Civil Rights Movement and the women's suffrage movement to be "contemptuous and hostile".[81] Rothbard vilified women's rights activists, attributing the growth of the welfare state to politically active spinsters "whose busybody inclinations were not fettered by the responsibilities of health and heart". Rothbard had pointed out in his 'Origins of the Welfare State' that progressives had evolved from elitist Gilded Age pietist Protestants that wanted to bring a secularized version of millennialism under a welfare state, which was spearheaded by a "shock troop of Yankee protestant and Jewish women and lesbian spinsters."[82]
Rothbard called for the elimination of "the entire 'civil rights' structure" stating that it "tramples on the property rights of every American." Rothbard also urged the (state) police to crack down on "street criminals", writing that "cops must be unleashed" and "allowed to administer instant punishment, subject of course to liability when they are in error". He also advocated that the police "clear the streets of bums and vagrants", and quipped "Hopefully they will return to the productive classes of society from the cosseted bum class" in response to the question of where these people would go after being removed from public property.[83]
Rothbard held strong opinions about many leaders of the civil rights movement. He considered black separatist Malcolm X to be a "great black leader" and integrationist Martin Luther King to be favored by whites because he "was the major restraining force on the developing Negro revolutionMichael O'Malley, Associate Professor of History at George Mason University, characterizes Rothbard's "overall tone regard[ing]" the Civil Rights Movement and the women's suffrage movement to be "contemptuous and hostile".[81] Rothbard vilified women's rights activists, attributing the growth of the welfare state to politically active spinsters "whose busybody inclinations were not fettered by the responsibilities of health and heart". Rothbard had pointed out in his 'Origins of the Welfare State' that progressives had evolved from elitist Gilded Age pietist Protestants that wanted to bring a secularized version of millennialism under a welfare state, which was spearheaded by a "shock troop of Yankee protestant and Jewish women and lesbian spinsters."[82]
Rothbard called for the elimination of "the entire 'civil rights' structure" stating that it "tramples on the property rights of every American." Rothbard also urged the (state) police to crack down on "street criminals", writing that "cops must be unleashed" and "allowed to administer instant punishment, subject of course to liability when they are in error". He also advocated that the police "clear the streets of bums and vagrants", and quipped "Hopefully they will return to the productive classes of society from the cosseted bum class" in response to the question of where these people would go after being removed from public property.[83]
Rothbard held strong opinions about many leaders of the civil rights movement. He considered black separatist Malcolm X to be a "great black leader" and integrationist Martin Luther King to be favored by whites because he "was the major restraining force on the developing Negro revolution
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Both Michael O'Malley and political scientist Jean Hardisty have noted Rothbard's "praise" of the argument, made in Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray's book The Bell Curve, that blacks are genetically inferior to whites with respect to intelligence.[88] Both authors quote Rothbard's remark that intellectual and "temperamental" differences between races are “self-evident”.
O'Malley quotes Rothbard as stating that public acceptance of the book's thesis "would put a bullet through the heart of the egalitarian socialist project", by providing an intellectual justification for racial inequalities
---
As a young man, Rothbard considered himself part of the Old Right, an anti-statist and anti-interventionist branch of the Republican Party. In the 1948 presidential election, Rothbard, "as a Jewish student at Columbia, horrified his peers by organizing a Students for Strom Thurmond chapter, so staunchly did he believe in states' rights."[114]
By the late 1960s, Rothbard's "long and winding yet somehow consistent road had taken him from anti-New Deal and anti-interventionist Robert Taft supporter into friendship with the quasi-pacifist Nebraska Republican Congressman Howard Buffett (father of Warren Buffett) then over to the League of (Adlai) Stevensonian Democrats and, by 1968, into tentative comradeship with the anarchist factions of the New Left.
// okey.. this guy .. needs more reading (and am not just thinking that on positive way, but hes leftist brain is way big to just explain him away... seems a lot of work and reading and things he did. powerful ways. respect for that)
26 September 2015 12:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
his defense of anarchism....
"Rothbard was critical of monetarist economist Milton Friedman. In a polemic entitled "Milton Friedman Unraveled", he maligned Friedman as a "statist", a "favorite of the establishment", a friend of and "apologist" for Richard Nixon, and a "pernicious influence" on public policy.[ Rothbard said that libertarians should scorn rather than celebrate Friedman's academic prestige and political influence. Noting that Rothbard has "been nasty to me and my work", Friedman responded to Rothbard's criticism by calling him a "cult builder and a dogmatist."
In a memorial volume published by the Mises Institute, his protégé Hans-Hermann Hoppe wrote that Rothbard's Man, Economy, and State "presented a blistering refutation of all variants of mathematical economics." and listed this as among Rothbard's "almost mind-boggling achievements". Hoppe lamented that like his own mentor Ludwig von Mises, Rothbard died without winning the Nobel Prize which Hoppe says Rothbard deserved "twice over." Though Hoppe conceded that Rothbard and his work were largely ignored by academia, he called Rothbard an intellectual giant comparable to Aristotle, Locke and Kant.
Though he self-identified as an Austrian economist, Rothbard's methodology was at odds with many other Austrians. In 1956, Rothbard deprecated the views of Austrian economist Fritz Machlup, stating that Machlup was no praxeologist, and calling him instead a "positivist" who failed to represent the views of Ludwig von Mises. Rothbard stated that in fact Machlup shared the opposing positivist view associated with economist Milton Friedman
According to economist Peter Boettke, Rothbard is better described as a property rights economist than as an Austrian economist. In 1988, Boettke noted that Rothbard "vehemently attacked all of the books of the younger Austrians"
Rothbard was a strong critic of egalitarianism. The title essay of Rothbard's 1974 book Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature and Other Essays held, "Equality is not in the natural order of things, and the crusade to make everyone equal in every respect (except before the law) is certain to have disastrous consequences.
In it, Rothbard wrote, "At the heart of the egalitarian left is the pathological belief that there is no structure of reality; that all the world is a tabula rasa that can be changed at any moment in any desired direction by the mere exercise of human will.
//(true critisism in here..)
"Rothbard was critical of monetarist economist Milton Friedman. In a polemic entitled "Milton Friedman Unraveled", he maligned Friedman as a "statist", a "favorite of the establishment", a friend of and "apologist" for Richard Nixon, and a "pernicious influence" on public policy.[ Rothbard said that libertarians should scorn rather than celebrate Friedman's academic prestige and political influence. Noting that Rothbard has "been nasty to me and my work", Friedman responded to Rothbard's criticism by calling him a "cult builder and a dogmatist."
In a memorial volume published by the Mises Institute, his protégé Hans-Hermann Hoppe wrote that Rothbard's Man, Economy, and State "presented a blistering refutation of all variants of mathematical economics." and listed this as among Rothbard's "almost mind-boggling achievements". Hoppe lamented that like his own mentor Ludwig von Mises, Rothbard died without winning the Nobel Prize which Hoppe says Rothbard deserved "twice over." Though Hoppe conceded that Rothbard and his work were largely ignored by academia, he called Rothbard an intellectual giant comparable to Aristotle, Locke and Kant.
Though he self-identified as an Austrian economist, Rothbard's methodology was at odds with many other Austrians. In 1956, Rothbard deprecated the views of Austrian economist Fritz Machlup, stating that Machlup was no praxeologist, and calling him instead a "positivist" who failed to represent the views of Ludwig von Mises. Rothbard stated that in fact Machlup shared the opposing positivist view associated with economist Milton Friedman
According to economist Peter Boettke, Rothbard is better described as a property rights economist than as an Austrian economist. In 1988, Boettke noted that Rothbard "vehemently attacked all of the books of the younger Austrians"
Rothbard was a strong critic of egalitarianism. The title essay of Rothbard's 1974 book Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature and Other Essays held, "Equality is not in the natural order of things, and the crusade to make everyone equal in every respect (except before the law) is certain to have disastrous consequences.
In it, Rothbard wrote, "At the heart of the egalitarian left is the pathological belief that there is no structure of reality; that all the world is a tabula rasa that can be changed at any moment in any desired direction by the mere exercise of human will.
//(true critisism in here..)
26 September 2015 12:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Murray Newton Rothbard (/ˈmʌri ˈrɑːθbɑrd/; March 2, 1926 – January 7, 1995) was a Jewish American heterodox economist of the Austrian School, a revisionist historian,[3][4] and a political theorist[5](pp11, 286, 380) whose writings and personal influence played a seminal role in the development of modern libertarianism. Rothbard was the founder and leading theoretician of anarcho-capitalism, a staunch advocate of historical revisionism, and a central figure in the twentieth-century American libertarian movement. He wrote over twenty books on anarchist theory, revisionist history, economics, and other subjects
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard
Rothbard asserted that all services provided by the "monopoly system of the corporate state" could be provided more efficiently by the private sector and wrote that the state is "the organization of robbery systematized and writ large."
Economist Jeff Herbener, who calls Rothbard his friend and "intellectual mentor", wrote that Rothbard received "only ostracism" from mainstream academia. Rothbard rejected mainstream economic methodologies and instead embraced the praxeology of his most important intellectual precursor, Ludwig von Mises. To promote his economic and political ideas, Rothbard joined Llewellyn H. "Lew" Rockwell, Jr. and Burton Blumert in 1982 to establish the Ludwig von Mises Institute in Alabama.
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In 1954, Rothbard, along with several other attendees of Mises' seminar, joined the circle of novelist Ayn Rand, the founder of Objectivism. He soon parted from her, writing, among other things, that her ideas were not as original as she proclaimed but similar to those of Aristotle, Thomas Aquinas and Herbert Spencer.
In 1958, after the publication of her novel, Atlas Shrugged, Rothbard wrote a "fan letter" to Rand, calling her book "an infinite treasure house," and "not merely the greatest novel ever written, [but] one of the very greatest books ever written, fiction or nonfiction." He also wrote that "you introduced me to the whole field of natural rights and natural law philosophy," prompting him to learn "the glorious natural rights tradition.
He rejoined her circle for a few months, but soon broke with Rand once more, over various differences, including his defense of anarchism.
//(broke with women over defense of anarchism that is ant female ideology.. are you serious.. u should be JEWISH.. that means, SHE is Queen.. how jew was u really u beardless intellectual liberal dude ? )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard
Rothbard asserted that all services provided by the "monopoly system of the corporate state" could be provided more efficiently by the private sector and wrote that the state is "the organization of robbery systematized and writ large."
Economist Jeff Herbener, who calls Rothbard his friend and "intellectual mentor", wrote that Rothbard received "only ostracism" from mainstream academia. Rothbard rejected mainstream economic methodologies and instead embraced the praxeology of his most important intellectual precursor, Ludwig von Mises. To promote his economic and political ideas, Rothbard joined Llewellyn H. "Lew" Rockwell, Jr. and Burton Blumert in 1982 to establish the Ludwig von Mises Institute in Alabama.
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In 1954, Rothbard, along with several other attendees of Mises' seminar, joined the circle of novelist Ayn Rand, the founder of Objectivism. He soon parted from her, writing, among other things, that her ideas were not as original as she proclaimed but similar to those of Aristotle, Thomas Aquinas and Herbert Spencer.
In 1958, after the publication of her novel, Atlas Shrugged, Rothbard wrote a "fan letter" to Rand, calling her book "an infinite treasure house," and "not merely the greatest novel ever written, [but] one of the very greatest books ever written, fiction or nonfiction." He also wrote that "you introduced me to the whole field of natural rights and natural law philosophy," prompting him to learn "the glorious natural rights tradition.
He rejoined her circle for a few months, but soon broke with Rand once more, over various differences, including his defense of anarchism.
//(broke with women over defense of anarchism that is ant female ideology.. are you serious.. u should be JEWISH.. that means, SHE is Queen.. how jew was u really u beardless intellectual liberal dude ? )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard
26 September 2015 12:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The Mietshäuser Syndikat (apartment-house syndicate) provides advice to self-organized house projects interested in the Syndikat’s model invests in projects so that they can be taken off the real estate market helps with its know-how in the area of project financing initiates new projects.
http://www.syndikat.org/en/
http://www.syndikat.org/en/
http://www.syndikat.org/en/
26 September 2015 09:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
FutureFuel is a quest for answers to the big questions of our time. It’s my personal search for answers to urgent questions about the future of mankind, the future of my generation and my own.
http://futurefuel.nl/
https://twitter.com/FutureFuelNU
http://futurefuel.nl/
https://twitter.com/FutureFuelNU
http://futurefuel.nl/
26 September 2015 09:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The Global Ecovillage Network envisions a world of empowered citizens and communities, designing and implementing their own pathways to a sustainable future, and building bridges of hope and international solidarity.
http://gen.ecovillage.org/
SICE
http://www.ecovillage.nu/about/
https://gen-europe.org/activities/news/news-detail/artikel/integration-ecovillage-solution-for-migration-and-eco-livelihoods/index.htm
Buying land, Options and discussion pertaining to acquiring land.
Spain
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10038657
Croatia
http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Europe/Croatia/Buying-Guide
http://www.expatcroatia.net/once-youre-here/accommodation-and-housing/5099-buying-a-property-in-croatia
http://www.inlandcroatia.com/
http://www.croatia-estate.com/en/
One idea would be to set up a cooperative to own the land. The cooperative would then function as an ownership proxy, allowing to more freely plot land within the communities area and to simultaneously limit and guarantee ownership rights while guaranteeing
http://www.zadruga.obz.hr/index.php/en/component/content/category/86-kako-osnovati-zadrugu
Building and architecture building Edited by Dolan
Gorgistan - building a significant number of yurts https://decentralize.hackpad.com/Gorgistan-2etqYCXb2XT
Gorgistan
Mas Els Gorgs is a Laboratory for Experimental Living in the Alta Garrotxa Natural Park. We're an international group of people living in an old cement quarry. Our doing springs naturally from the core of our authentic being and expresses rather than seeks openness and love. For us it is all about being experimental, gardening, building, maintaining, developing, playing local, thinking glocal.
http://gorgistan.blogspot.nl/
Dolan
Roșia Montană http://www.rosiamontana.org/ (http://www.rosiamontana.org/en dead)
http://gen.ecovillage.org/
SICE
http://www.ecovillage.nu/about/
https://gen-europe.org/activities/news/news-detail/artikel/integration-ecovillage-solution-for-migration-and-eco-livelihoods/index.htm
Buying land, Options and discussion pertaining to acquiring land.
Spain
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10038657
Croatia
http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Europe/Croatia/Buying-Guide
http://www.expatcroatia.net/once-youre-here/accommodation-and-housing/5099-buying-a-property-in-croatia
http://www.inlandcroatia.com/
http://www.croatia-estate.com/en/
One idea would be to set up a cooperative to own the land. The cooperative would then function as an ownership proxy, allowing to more freely plot land within the communities area and to simultaneously limit and guarantee ownership rights while guaranteeing
http://www.zadruga.obz.hr/index.php/en/component/content/category/86-kako-osnovati-zadrugu
Building and architecture building Edited by Dolan
Gorgistan - building a significant number of yurts https://decentralize.hackpad.com/Gorgistan-2etqYCXb2XT
Gorgistan
Mas Els Gorgs is a Laboratory for Experimental Living in the Alta Garrotxa Natural Park. We're an international group of people living in an old cement quarry. Our doing springs naturally from the core of our authentic being and expresses rather than seeks openness and love. For us it is all about being experimental, gardening, building, maintaining, developing, playing local, thinking glocal.
http://gorgistan.blogspot.nl/
Dolan
Roșia Montană http://www.rosiamontana.org/ (http://www.rosiamontana.org/en dead)
http://gen.ecovillage.org/
26 September 2015 09:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
CrowdExpedition
Crowd Expedition is a unique two-year project in quest of the real added value of the Collaborative Economy. The Collaborative Economy is the umbrella name for practices such as crowdfunding, crowdsourcing, slacktivism, co-creation and the sharing economy.
All hugely valuable and inspiring developments, yet the question arises: what’s really new? And what’s just hype? What are the thresholds? And how can we lower them? How do you get the best value out of these practices? How can we apply them to sectors and activities where you would not in first instance expect them? And last but not least, how do we connect this new economy to the current (old) economy in a sustainable way? Especially since all that is old is not necessarily bad.
https://www.youtube.com/user/crowdexpedition
https://twitter.com/martijnarets
https://decentralize.hackpad.com/CrowdExpedition-qICKwPsbwPv
Crowd Expedition is a unique two-year project in quest of the real added value of the Collaborative Economy. The Collaborative Economy is the umbrella name for practices such as crowdfunding, crowdsourcing, slacktivism, co-creation and the sharing economy.
All hugely valuable and inspiring developments, yet the question arises: what’s really new? And what’s just hype? What are the thresholds? And how can we lower them? How do you get the best value out of these practices? How can we apply them to sectors and activities where you would not in first instance expect them? And last but not least, how do we connect this new economy to the current (old) economy in a sustainable way? Especially since all that is old is not necessarily bad.
https://www.youtube.com/user/crowdexpedition
https://twitter.com/martijnarets
https://decentralize.hackpad.com/CrowdExpedition-qICKwPsbwPv
https://www.youtube.com/user/crowdexpedition
26 September 2015 09:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Books, documentaries and other resources related to the Decentralized Society Research Project.
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Books
"The Power of Neighborhood" and The Commons
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING by Naomi Klein Review Reddit
Ecovillages: lessons for sustainable community, Liftin http://ecovillagebook.org/
Walden two, B.F. Skinner, a novel in which a 'behavioural psychologist' descibes his utopistic community in which all areas of living are designed such that people have the highest degree of happiness with the lowest amount of labour. It's a bit weird but it gives some nice insights. Wikipedia
Sustainable Revolution by Juliana Birnbaum and Louis Fox Buy
'The One Straw Revolution' by Masanobu Fukuoka
Philosophy
A Thousand Years of Nonlinear History by Manuel De Landa PDF
Anti-fragile by Nassim Taleb Wikipedia
Articles
Sociopaths, Psychopaths and Death Eaters by Heather Marsh
A manifesto for Energy beyond Neoliberalism
Ecovillage on Wikipedia
On the Lam with Bank Robber Enric Duran, April 7, 2015, article published in Vice by Nathan Schneider
Documentaries
Debtocracy: a reflection on the current Greek economic situation
Garbage Warrior: sustainable building and earthships
Permaculture: A Quiet Revolution
Money as Debt
Knowledge as a Common. Communities of production and sharing in Greece
Websites
Global Ecovillage Network
The Culture of Permaculture
Ecotopia Biketour
Books from the Decentralibrary
In the last couple of years, several authors have inspired a vision of a more decentralized, equitable and free society. This is the first in a series of articles where books are highlighted that play an essential role in projecting this vision. In the current article we will explore the borderline between science and philosophy: first mathematics with Nassim Taleb’s Antifragile. Then complex systems theory with De Landa’s Nonlinear History and lastly Latour’s refutal of modernity. Lastly, we discuss Hofstaders Strange Loop on emergent behaviour and consciousness.
Antifragile
by Nassim Taleb
Nassim Taleb, feared and heralded for his almost anti-academic stance, is a mathematician and finance expert who, through his practical experience in finance, has developed a unique perspective on statistics. He argues that the events that lead to changes in the (metastable) equilibrium of complex systems (i.e. all of nature) are of a rare and necessarily unpredictable nature.
Within this framework, he is able to assign a property to systems based on their reaction to rare (high sigma) perturbations. He classifies systems on a scale between fragile (systems likely to break under perturbations), resilient (systems that will not change under perturbations) and anti-fragile systems which gain in strength under perturbations). Based on this analysis, he theorizes that many of society’s current structures, such as the nation-state and our current financial and monetary systems are inherently fragile and will thus eventually collapse.
At the same time, his theory also gives us quantitative and qualitative methods for assessing the fragility of any system based on its current, inherent, properties. This as opposed to statistical methods which require defining the nature of the perturbation and historical data to make an, often inaccurate, prediction. In this way we can optimize systems and structures for volatile environments, such as our current and, in a stronger sense, future environments.
A Thousand Years of Nonlinear History
by Manuel De Landa
In this very refreshing piece of modern philosophy, Manuel De Landa presents a materialist perspective on recent history. Rather than assuming a traditional ‘flat’ linear history, he applies ideas from systems theory and complex systems analysis to yield a history in which essential turning points are shifts and jumps in emergent saddle points under perturbations. It suggests that many historic lessons can be learned by looking at flows of resources, in the form of material and information.
One his main points is that complex systems tend to organize themselves in networks that are either mesh-like and decentralized or tree-like and hierarchical or centralized. Most systems exhibit characteristics of both but have a tendency for one or the other. Within this perspetive he suggests a tendency for modern society to slide towards more centralized, hierarchical structures. This goes for material resource flows as well as the distribution of power and information and, as such, provides insights in why and how our society is as centralized as it is. At the same time, this provides anchor for imagining more decentralized mesh-like forms of interconnectedness and organization.
As you might guess, this work of philosphy requires a firm and multidisciplinary background. The insights, however, are essential for a more abstract understanding of society and human interaction.
We have never been modern
by Bruno Latour
In yet another French refutal of structuralism, Bruno Latour argues for a non-dualist perspective on science. He repeatedly attackts the modern destinction between nature and culture, as he did in The Pasteurization of France with the classical dichotomy between constructed and real entities.
Latour argues, rather, that the very nature of dichotomies limit and colour our analysis of phenomenon. To avoid this trap, he proposes his ‘Actor-network theory’ which does not make apriori classifications of elements under analysis; hence atoms have the same ontological status as visions, animals, trees, planets or humans. Using this extremely flexible pseudo-ontology, Latour’s analysis is employed succesfully to expose blind spots in our perspective of reality.
His methods of analysis, as well as his analysis of scientific practises and social self-reflection have been of tantamount importantance to expose seemingly evident structures in our societies and consciousness. By not allowing ourselves to take any distinctions for granted, we are moving in an ontological space that is continually shifting, mapping out blind spots as we are force to change perspective.
I am a strange loop
by Dougles Hofstadter
It might seem strange to mention Hofstadter’s classic on consciousness here, however, I have never read a more accurate description of emergent behaviour and downwards causality than the one posed in this book.
In I am a strange looop, Hofstadter persues the viewpoint that consciousness is a phenomenon that spontaneously emerges out of a certain amount of symbolic representative capacity of our cognition. In simpler words; when putting enough brain cells together, with the right amount and sort of interconnectedness, creates a feedback loop which we conceive of as consciousness.
His theory about consciousness has the advantage that it does away with the ‘je ne sais pas’, the soul or hidden essence, often found in similar theories. This not only makes consciousness material and (metaphyiscally) ‘nothing special’, it also allows the conception of higher order forms of consciousness, such as collective forms thereof. Imagine groups of people with complex emergent behaviour and feedback loops, creating a group awareness as real and as fundamental as the individual awareness.
As part of imagining a different society, we cannot espace the fact that we need to think above and beyond the level of the isolated individual. Hofstadter’s theory might be a strong hint in the right direction. Moreover, emergent behaviour might help us to create bottom-up organizations complex enough to compete with and surpass the current global production and trade system.
The possibility of a decentralized society
Strangely enough, all of the discussed philosophers happen to be alive and kicking at the time of writing. This is purely accidental and, surely, their work would not have been possible without all the babblers, thinkers and crackpots and, in general, the monstrous magma of human culture that for the context for our conceptual understanding and cultural experience.
These thinkers are, unwittingly, helping to form an image of a possibility, a possible path through which we can structure social and economic dynamics to last. The decentralized nature of this projected vision allows for ‘horizontal’ reproduction of ‘bottom-up’ emergent structures. This would allow new and presumably better equilibria ‘stable states’ without the force and violence that is traditionally associated with large-scale societal change.
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Books
"The Power of Neighborhood" and The Commons
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING by Naomi Klein Review Reddit
Ecovillages: lessons for sustainable community, Liftin http://ecovillagebook.org/
Walden two, B.F. Skinner, a novel in which a 'behavioural psychologist' descibes his utopistic community in which all areas of living are designed such that people have the highest degree of happiness with the lowest amount of labour. It's a bit weird but it gives some nice insights. Wikipedia
Sustainable Revolution by Juliana Birnbaum and Louis Fox Buy
'The One Straw Revolution' by Masanobu Fukuoka
Philosophy
A Thousand Years of Nonlinear History by Manuel De Landa PDF
Anti-fragile by Nassim Taleb Wikipedia
Articles
Sociopaths, Psychopaths and Death Eaters by Heather Marsh
A manifesto for Energy beyond Neoliberalism
Ecovillage on Wikipedia
On the Lam with Bank Robber Enric Duran, April 7, 2015, article published in Vice by Nathan Schneider
Documentaries
Debtocracy: a reflection on the current Greek economic situation
Garbage Warrior: sustainable building and earthships
Permaculture: A Quiet Revolution
Money as Debt
Knowledge as a Common. Communities of production and sharing in Greece
Websites
Global Ecovillage Network
The Culture of Permaculture
Ecotopia Biketour
Books from the Decentralibrary
In the last couple of years, several authors have inspired a vision of a more decentralized, equitable and free society. This is the first in a series of articles where books are highlighted that play an essential role in projecting this vision. In the current article we will explore the borderline between science and philosophy: first mathematics with Nassim Taleb’s Antifragile. Then complex systems theory with De Landa’s Nonlinear History and lastly Latour’s refutal of modernity. Lastly, we discuss Hofstaders Strange Loop on emergent behaviour and consciousness.
Antifragile
by Nassim Taleb
Nassim Taleb, feared and heralded for his almost anti-academic stance, is a mathematician and finance expert who, through his practical experience in finance, has developed a unique perspective on statistics. He argues that the events that lead to changes in the (metastable) equilibrium of complex systems (i.e. all of nature) are of a rare and necessarily unpredictable nature.
Within this framework, he is able to assign a property to systems based on their reaction to rare (high sigma) perturbations. He classifies systems on a scale between fragile (systems likely to break under perturbations), resilient (systems that will not change under perturbations) and anti-fragile systems which gain in strength under perturbations). Based on this analysis, he theorizes that many of society’s current structures, such as the nation-state and our current financial and monetary systems are inherently fragile and will thus eventually collapse.
At the same time, his theory also gives us quantitative and qualitative methods for assessing the fragility of any system based on its current, inherent, properties. This as opposed to statistical methods which require defining the nature of the perturbation and historical data to make an, often inaccurate, prediction. In this way we can optimize systems and structures for volatile environments, such as our current and, in a stronger sense, future environments.
A Thousand Years of Nonlinear History
by Manuel De Landa
In this very refreshing piece of modern philosophy, Manuel De Landa presents a materialist perspective on recent history. Rather than assuming a traditional ‘flat’ linear history, he applies ideas from systems theory and complex systems analysis to yield a history in which essential turning points are shifts and jumps in emergent saddle points under perturbations. It suggests that many historic lessons can be learned by looking at flows of resources, in the form of material and information.
One his main points is that complex systems tend to organize themselves in networks that are either mesh-like and decentralized or tree-like and hierarchical or centralized. Most systems exhibit characteristics of both but have a tendency for one or the other. Within this perspetive he suggests a tendency for modern society to slide towards more centralized, hierarchical structures. This goes for material resource flows as well as the distribution of power and information and, as such, provides insights in why and how our society is as centralized as it is. At the same time, this provides anchor for imagining more decentralized mesh-like forms of interconnectedness and organization.
As you might guess, this work of philosphy requires a firm and multidisciplinary background. The insights, however, are essential for a more abstract understanding of society and human interaction.
We have never been modern
by Bruno Latour
In yet another French refutal of structuralism, Bruno Latour argues for a non-dualist perspective on science. He repeatedly attackts the modern destinction between nature and culture, as he did in The Pasteurization of France with the classical dichotomy between constructed and real entities.
Latour argues, rather, that the very nature of dichotomies limit and colour our analysis of phenomenon. To avoid this trap, he proposes his ‘Actor-network theory’ which does not make apriori classifications of elements under analysis; hence atoms have the same ontological status as visions, animals, trees, planets or humans. Using this extremely flexible pseudo-ontology, Latour’s analysis is employed succesfully to expose blind spots in our perspective of reality.
His methods of analysis, as well as his analysis of scientific practises and social self-reflection have been of tantamount importantance to expose seemingly evident structures in our societies and consciousness. By not allowing ourselves to take any distinctions for granted, we are moving in an ontological space that is continually shifting, mapping out blind spots as we are force to change perspective.
I am a strange loop
by Dougles Hofstadter
It might seem strange to mention Hofstadter’s classic on consciousness here, however, I have never read a more accurate description of emergent behaviour and downwards causality than the one posed in this book.
In I am a strange looop, Hofstadter persues the viewpoint that consciousness is a phenomenon that spontaneously emerges out of a certain amount of symbolic representative capacity of our cognition. In simpler words; when putting enough brain cells together, with the right amount and sort of interconnectedness, creates a feedback loop which we conceive of as consciousness.
His theory about consciousness has the advantage that it does away with the ‘je ne sais pas’, the soul or hidden essence, often found in similar theories. This not only makes consciousness material and (metaphyiscally) ‘nothing special’, it also allows the conception of higher order forms of consciousness, such as collective forms thereof. Imagine groups of people with complex emergent behaviour and feedback loops, creating a group awareness as real and as fundamental as the individual awareness.
As part of imagining a different society, we cannot espace the fact that we need to think above and beyond the level of the isolated individual. Hofstadter’s theory might be a strong hint in the right direction. Moreover, emergent behaviour might help us to create bottom-up organizations complex enough to compete with and surpass the current global production and trade system.
The possibility of a decentralized society
Strangely enough, all of the discussed philosophers happen to be alive and kicking at the time of writing. This is purely accidental and, surely, their work would not have been possible without all the babblers, thinkers and crackpots and, in general, the monstrous magma of human culture that for the context for our conceptual understanding and cultural experience.
These thinkers are, unwittingly, helping to form an image of a possibility, a possible path through which we can structure social and economic dynamics to last. The decentralized nature of this projected vision allows for ‘horizontal’ reproduction of ‘bottom-up’ emergent structures. This would allow new and presumably better equilibria ‘stable states’ without the force and violence that is traditionally associated with large-scale societal change.
26 September 2015 09:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Wetheuncivilised is an exploration of an evolving movement; we seek to challenge and bring into question the structures and processes that create oppression, inequality and environmental destruction, and to offer an alternative.
Wetheuncivilised is an invitation to investigate the diverse range of beautiful and inspiring solutions to the crises we face. We attest that these solutions don’t exist in some distant, elusive utopia but in the real and tangible present – the choice is ours.
We are recording our experiences in a documentary film,wetheuncivilised.
Our journey over the past 2 years has taken us the length and breadth of Britain. We have camped beside Highland Lochs in Scotland, and slept on bedroom floors in Bristol. We have spoken toSatish Kumar (Schumacher College), Polly Higgins (Ecocide Lawyer), Bruce Parry (explorer), Tim ‘Mac’ Macartney(Embercombe), Mark Boyle (The Moneyless Manifesto), Martin Shaw (School of Myth), Glennie Kindred (Artist and writer), Patrick Whitefield (Permaculturist), Chris Knight (anthropologist and activist), Simon Fairlie (The Land), Jewels Wingfield (Living Love), and the list goes on! Not to mention countless other inspiring people who are living the change and working at a grass-roots level – the activists, the artists, the alternative communities, the musicians, and the mavericks.
http://wetheuncivilised.org/
https://decentralize.hackpad.com/wetheuncivilized-SBf73drXNWA
Wetheuncivilised is an invitation to investigate the diverse range of beautiful and inspiring solutions to the crises we face. We attest that these solutions don’t exist in some distant, elusive utopia but in the real and tangible present – the choice is ours.
We are recording our experiences in a documentary film,wetheuncivilised.
Our journey over the past 2 years has taken us the length and breadth of Britain. We have camped beside Highland Lochs in Scotland, and slept on bedroom floors in Bristol. We have spoken toSatish Kumar (Schumacher College), Polly Higgins (Ecocide Lawyer), Bruce Parry (explorer), Tim ‘Mac’ Macartney(Embercombe), Mark Boyle (The Moneyless Manifesto), Martin Shaw (School of Myth), Glennie Kindred (Artist and writer), Patrick Whitefield (Permaculturist), Chris Knight (anthropologist and activist), Simon Fairlie (The Land), Jewels Wingfield (Living Love), and the list goes on! Not to mention countless other inspiring people who are living the change and working at a grass-roots level – the activists, the artists, the alternative communities, the musicians, and the mavericks.
http://wetheuncivilised.org/
https://decentralize.hackpad.com/wetheuncivilized-SBf73drXNWA
http://wetheuncivilised.org/
26 September 2015 09:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nagu Eesti ideepangad
https://argu.co/nederland
https://argu.co/nederland
https://argu.co/nederland
26 September 2015 09:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
LiquidFeedback is an open-source software,
powering internet platforms for
proposition development and decision making
LiquidFeedback is an independent open source project published under MIT license by the Public Software Group of Berlin, Germany. The developers of LiquidFeedback have teamed up in the Association for Interactive Democracy to promote the use of electronic media for democratic processes.
http://liquidfeedback.org/
powering internet platforms for
proposition development and decision making
LiquidFeedback is an independent open source project published under MIT license by the Public Software Group of Berlin, Germany. The developers of LiquidFeedback have teamed up in the Association for Interactive Democracy to promote the use of electronic media for democratic processes.
http://liquidfeedback.org/
http://liquidfeedback.org/
26 September 2015 09:27
Margus Meigo commented on Jarmo Kauge's post.
Kui ei tee... siis olete rämedad ihned kapitalistidest sead kes oma eliidi valitud nurgas jagab valitutele, et virtuaalset hüpi teha, limiteerides info vaba ligipääsu ja lõppkokkuvõttes ka ennast, suures plaanis, kui tulevikus tagasi vaadatakse, kes kui hästi sai info päris jagamise jpõhimõtetest aru
26 September 2015 09:18
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
Mark.. Mark... ya should Newer wear a tie... it lowers ur profile... and ..
26 September 2015 09:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Abit hipytipi or communist test projects.. but still:
With over 7 acres of hands-on displays and gardens and with over 35 years of experience in sustainability practice, the Centre for Alternative Technology (CAT) inspires thousands of visitors every year. Based in beautiful Mid Wales, the Centre overlooks the Snowdonia National Park, renowned for its stunning scenery and outdoor activities. Join us with your family, friends or come alone and explore what you can do!
https://decentralize.hackpad.com/Center-for-Alternative-Technology-Hyb1n5VXuJx
http://www.cat.org.uk/index.html
With over 7 acres of hands-on displays and gardens and with over 35 years of experience in sustainability practice, the Centre for Alternative Technology (CAT) inspires thousands of visitors every year. Based in beautiful Mid Wales, the Centre overlooks the Snowdonia National Park, renowned for its stunning scenery and outdoor activities. Join us with your family, friends or come alone and explore what you can do!
https://decentralize.hackpad.com/Center-for-Alternative-Technology-Hyb1n5VXuJx
http://www.cat.org.uk/index.html
https://decentralize.hackpad.com/Center-for-Alternative-Technology-Hyb1n5VXuJx
25 September 2015 18:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Embercombe founder,
Authentic Leadership
Sustainability, Values, and Leadership
Vision, Values, and Purpose
Education, Children, Youth, and Society
Imagination, the Wild, and Belonging
Indigenous wisdom, Earth wisdom
Britain – ancient pathways of a forgotten past
Embercombe – field of dreams
http://embercombe.org/what-we-do/in-the-world/macs-speaking/
Authentic Leadership
Sustainability, Values, and Leadership
Vision, Values, and Purpose
Education, Children, Youth, and Society
Imagination, the Wild, and Belonging
Indigenous wisdom, Earth wisdom
Britain – ancient pathways of a forgotten past
Embercombe – field of dreams
http://embercombe.org/what-we-do/in-the-world/macs-speaking/
http://embercombe.org/what-we-do/in-the-world/macs-speaking/
25 September 2015 18:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Embercombe inspires people to take courageous action for a just, peaceful and sustainable world.
https://decentralize.hackpad.com/Embercombe-DTFtOqhSeSg
http://embercombe.org/what-we-do/in-the-world/
https://decentralize.hackpad.com/Embercombe-DTFtOqhSeSg
http://embercombe.org/what-we-do/in-the-world/
https://decentralize.hackpad.com/Embercombe-DTFtOqhSeSg
25 September 2015 18:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Hackers solve problems and build things, and they believe in freedom and voluntary mutual help. To be accepted as a hacker, you have to behave as though you have this kind of attitude yourself. And to behave as though you have the attitude, you have to really believe the attitude.
But if you think of cultivating hacker attitudes as just a way to gain acceptance in the culture, you'll miss the point. Becoming the kind of person who believes these things is important for you — for helping you learn and keeping you motivated. As with all creative arts, the most effective way to become a master is to imitate the mind-set of masters — not just intellectually but emotionally as well.
Or, as the following modern Zen poem has it:
To follow the path:
look to the master,
follow the master,
walk with the master,
see through the master,
become the master.
So, if you want to be a hacker, repeat the following things until you believe them:
1. The world is full of fascinating problems waiting to be solved.
Being a hacker is lots of fun, but it's a kind of fun that takes lots of effort. The effort takes motivation
But if you think of cultivating hacker attitudes as just a way to gain acceptance in the culture, you'll miss the point. Becoming the kind of person who believes these things is important for you — for helping you learn and keeping you motivated. As with all creative arts, the most effective way to become a master is to imitate the mind-set of masters — not just intellectually but emotionally as well.
Or, as the following modern Zen poem has it:
To follow the path:
look to the master,
follow the master,
walk with the master,
see through the master,
become the master.
So, if you want to be a hacker, repeat the following things until you believe them:
1. The world is full of fascinating problems waiting to be solved.
Being a hacker is lots of fun, but it's a kind of fun that takes lots of effort. The effort takes motivation
25 September 2015 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"The basic difference is this: hackers build things, crackers break them.
If you want to be a hacker, keep reading. If you want to be a cracker, go read the alt.2600 newsgroup and get ready to do five to ten in the slammer after finding out you aren't as smart as you think you are. And that's all I'm going to say about crackers."
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Why This Document?
What Is a Hacker?
The Hacker Attitude
1. The world is full of fascinating problems waiting to be solved.
2. No problem should ever have to be solved twice.
3. Boredom and drudgery are evil.
4. Freedom is good.
5. Attitude is no substitute for competence.
Basic Hacking Skills
1. Learn how to program.
2. Get one of the open-source Unixes and learn to use and run it.
3. Learn how to use the World Wide Web and write HTML.
4. If you don't have functional English, learn it.
Status in the Hacker Culture
1. Write open-source software
2. Help test and debug open-source software
3. Publish useful information
4. Help keep the infrastructure working
5. Serve the hacker culture itself
The Hacker/Nerd Connection
Points For Style
Historical Note: Hacking, Open Source, and Free Social software
http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
If you want to be a hacker, keep reading. If you want to be a cracker, go read the alt.2600 newsgroup and get ready to do five to ten in the slammer after finding out you aren't as smart as you think you are. And that's all I'm going to say about crackers."
----
Why This Document?
What Is a Hacker?
The Hacker Attitude
1. The world is full of fascinating problems waiting to be solved.
2. No problem should ever have to be solved twice.
3. Boredom and drudgery are evil.
4. Freedom is good.
5. Attitude is no substitute for competence.
Basic Hacking Skills
1. Learn how to program.
2. Get one of the open-source Unixes and learn to use and run it.
3. Learn how to use the World Wide Web and write HTML.
4. If you don't have functional English, learn it.
Status in the Hacker Culture
1. Write open-source software
2. Help test and debug open-source software
3. Publish useful information
4. Help keep the infrastructure working
5. Serve the hacker culture itself
The Hacker/Nerd Connection
Points For Style
Historical Note: Hacking, Open Source, and Free Social software
http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
25 September 2015 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
""The Stoics provide the moral framework; the Epicureans, the motivation; the praxeologists, the methodology. I propose to call this package of ideological systems autarchy, because autarchy means self-rule."
LeFevre was a follower of the "I AM" movement
After Rampart College's closure in 1975, LeFevre carried on his work in South Carolina under the patronage of business giant Roger Milliken, and he also published Lefevre's Journal from 1974 to 1978. In 1979, LeFevre selected Freedom School graduate Kevin Cullinane to take over the teaching of Freedom School Seminars, including the Milliken Contract.
LeFevre was a follower of the "I AM" movement from 1936 to 1940 or so. He and one Pearl Diehl wrote a book in 1940 of their experiences in the organization called "I AM"—America's Destiny (Twin City House, St. Paul, Minnesota). LeFevre told how one day, when he was in the radio station studio, he was struck by the Great I AM presence, who spoke to him personally. LeFevre also claimed a number of supernatural experiences: driving a car while asleep for over twenty miles without an accident (this was accomplished with the help of his "Higher Mental Body"), leaving his physical body for a trip through the air to Mount Shasta, and seeing Jesus.
Cullinane, who taught the principles of LeFevre's philosophy to students at Academy of the Rockies, which he had founded in 1972, taught Freedom School from 1979 until 2005 as part of Milliken's management training. He expanded its reach to include Sherman College, Wofford College, and individual seminars from coast to coast. Freedom School continues today from Tennessee, where Cullinane moved in 2000 to found Freedom Mountain Academy.
Notable teachers at the Freedom School or Rampart College include Rose Wilder Lane, Milton Friedman, F.A. Harper, Frank Chodorov, Leonard Read, Gordon Tullock, G. Warren Nutter, Bruno Leoni, James J. Martin, and Ludwig von Mises.
Notable graduates include Roy Childs, Kerry Thornley, and Roger MacBride.
IN pop Culture:
Some, such as Brian Doherty, claim that Robert LeFevre's movement was a basis for Robert A. Heinlein's book The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress, and that LeFevre was the basis for the character Professor Bernardo de la Paz, organizer of the Lunar revolution.[7][8]
In the alternate history novel The Probability Broach by L. Neil Smith as part of the North American Confederacy Series, in which the United States becomes a libertarian state in 1794 after a successful Whiskey Rebellion and the overthrowing and execution of George Washington by firing squad for treason, Robert LeFevre served as the 23rd President of the North American Confederacy from 1960 to 1968
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_LeFevre
Writings:
Anarchy (1959)
The Nature of Man and His Government (Caxton Printing, 1959) ISBN 0-87004-086-3
This Bread is Mine (American Liberty Press, 1960)
Constitutional Government in the Soviet Union (Exposition Press, 1962; Pine Tree Press, 1966)
Limited Government- Hope or Illusion? (Pine Tree Press, 1963)
Role of Private Property in a Free Society (Pine Tree Press, 1963)
Anarchy v. Autoarchy (Pine Tree Press, 1965)
Money (Pine Tree Press, 1965)
The Philosophy of Ownership (Pine Tree Press, 1966, 1985; Ludwig von Mises Institute, 2007)
Justice (Rampart College, 1972)
Lift Her Up Tenderly (Pine Tree Press, 1976)
Does Government Protection Protect? (Society for Libertarian Life ed, Rampart Press, 1978)
Good Government: Hope or Illusion?(Society for Libertarian Life ed, Rampart Press, 1978)
The Libertarian (Bramble Minibooks, 1978?)
Protection (Rampart College, n.d.)
The Fundamentals of Liberty (Rampart Institute, 1988) (posthumously) ISBN 0-9620480-0-3
A Way to Be Free (Pulpless, 1999)
LeFevre was a follower of the "I AM" movement
After Rampart College's closure in 1975, LeFevre carried on his work in South Carolina under the patronage of business giant Roger Milliken, and he also published Lefevre's Journal from 1974 to 1978. In 1979, LeFevre selected Freedom School graduate Kevin Cullinane to take over the teaching of Freedom School Seminars, including the Milliken Contract.
LeFevre was a follower of the "I AM" movement from 1936 to 1940 or so. He and one Pearl Diehl wrote a book in 1940 of their experiences in the organization called "I AM"—America's Destiny (Twin City House, St. Paul, Minnesota). LeFevre told how one day, when he was in the radio station studio, he was struck by the Great I AM presence, who spoke to him personally. LeFevre also claimed a number of supernatural experiences: driving a car while asleep for over twenty miles without an accident (this was accomplished with the help of his "Higher Mental Body"), leaving his physical body for a trip through the air to Mount Shasta, and seeing Jesus.
Cullinane, who taught the principles of LeFevre's philosophy to students at Academy of the Rockies, which he had founded in 1972, taught Freedom School from 1979 until 2005 as part of Milliken's management training. He expanded its reach to include Sherman College, Wofford College, and individual seminars from coast to coast. Freedom School continues today from Tennessee, where Cullinane moved in 2000 to found Freedom Mountain Academy.
Notable teachers at the Freedom School or Rampart College include Rose Wilder Lane, Milton Friedman, F.A. Harper, Frank Chodorov, Leonard Read, Gordon Tullock, G. Warren Nutter, Bruno Leoni, James J. Martin, and Ludwig von Mises.
Notable graduates include Roy Childs, Kerry Thornley, and Roger MacBride.
IN pop Culture:
Some, such as Brian Doherty, claim that Robert LeFevre's movement was a basis for Robert A. Heinlein's book The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress, and that LeFevre was the basis for the character Professor Bernardo de la Paz, organizer of the Lunar revolution.[7][8]
In the alternate history novel The Probability Broach by L. Neil Smith as part of the North American Confederacy Series, in which the United States becomes a libertarian state in 1794 after a successful Whiskey Rebellion and the overthrowing and execution of George Washington by firing squad for treason, Robert LeFevre served as the 23rd President of the North American Confederacy from 1960 to 1968
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_LeFevre
Writings:
Anarchy (1959)
The Nature of Man and His Government (Caxton Printing, 1959) ISBN 0-87004-086-3
This Bread is Mine (American Liberty Press, 1960)
Constitutional Government in the Soviet Union (Exposition Press, 1962; Pine Tree Press, 1966)
Limited Government- Hope or Illusion? (Pine Tree Press, 1963)
Role of Private Property in a Free Society (Pine Tree Press, 1963)
Anarchy v. Autoarchy (Pine Tree Press, 1965)
Money (Pine Tree Press, 1965)
The Philosophy of Ownership (Pine Tree Press, 1966, 1985; Ludwig von Mises Institute, 2007)
Justice (Rampart College, 1972)
Lift Her Up Tenderly (Pine Tree Press, 1976)
Does Government Protection Protect? (Society for Libertarian Life ed, Rampart Press, 1978)
Good Government: Hope or Illusion?(Society for Libertarian Life ed, Rampart Press, 1978)
The Libertarian (Bramble Minibooks, 1978?)
Protection (Rampart College, n.d.)
The Fundamentals of Liberty (Rampart Institute, 1988) (posthumously) ISBN 0-9620480-0-3
A Way to Be Free (Pulpless, 1999)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_LeFevre
25 September 2015 17:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Advocates of the philosophy are autarchists (from Greek, "one who believes in self rule"), while the state in which everyone rules themselves and no one else is called autarchy (from Greek αὐταρχία autarchia, "state of self rule")"
25 September 2015 17:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Autarchism (from Greek, "belief in self rule") is a political philosophy that upholds the principle of individual liberty, rejects compulsory government, and supports the elimination of government in favor of ruling oneself and no other. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autarchism
Should we?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autarchism
Should we?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autarchism
25 September 2015 17:47
Margus Meigo replied to Imre Väin's comment.
No, we was @moon
25 September 2015 17:23
Margus Meigo commented on Gerli Grand's post.
ja ega see ei tähenda, et muul ajal magama peaks, oma võimetega : )
25 September 2015 15:00
Margus Meigo replied to Imre Väin's comment.
irw
24 September 2015 19:02
Margus Meigo commented on Alexander Marinov's post.
to join the wave 2 quantium PC with all the DARPa open source intelligence robotics..
24 September 2015 18:50
Margus Meigo commented on Alexander Marinov's post.
Eesti, Eesti!
(K)
(K)
24 September 2015 18:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
R.I.P.
@ phone
@ phone
24 September 2015 07:57
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
places to keep safe, to rember our worlds
24 September 2015 04:23
Margus Meigo replied to Heleri Alles's comment.
and they are Christians as Ye like them
24 September 2015 04:22
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's link.
jeerum
24 September 2015 03:44
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Urb's post.
piibli, v. t vana testaMendi bioomane lause ütleb kuidas ja miks on, mida tegema owner, mida tahetakse ja tehakse meie koigi kolme poolt
23 September 2015 21:58
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Urb's post.
ega see saatan nii lammas ka pole, et bähem kui meie teab mis saab
23 September 2015 21:56
Margus Meigo replied to Jaanus Anti's comment.
ing. tänavakultuuris prygikastiSurfamine,sukeldumine, misspelled.
23 September 2015 21:54
Margus Meigo commented on Eunique Grisby's post.
and what you need , so it can be given
23 September 2015 20:34
Margus Meigo commented on Eunique Grisby's post.
so give some pointers about your doings in other worlds systems
23 September 2015 20:32
Margus Meigo commented on Eunique Grisby's post.
i collect needs of organisms and A. I. s who appear to be related to human species doings. to benefit nature maker aim of outerconsioucnes evolution
23 September 2015 20:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: KORTERITE/MAJADE MÜÜK/ÜÜRIMINE !
Jeey, tere tere Monika! (L)23 September 2015 17:38
Margus Meigo commented on Patrick Reinas's photo.
või tegelt.. Alan Wattsi sõnu meelde tuletades.. ei peaks selliseid asju happega seostama : )
võtsid algpildi muutsid.pixeldasid või oligi kohe sellie?
võtsid algpildi muutsid.pixeldasid või oligi kohe sellie?
23 September 2015 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on Patrick Reinas's photo.
väga hape
23 September 2015 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on Eunique Grisby's post.
humanbeing in most part
23 September 2015 14:48
Margus Meigo commented on Eunique Grisby's post.
are you ,honestly?
23 September 2015 14:47
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Urb's post.
Ummm mmmm : )
23 September 2015 13:44
Margus Meigo commented on Kate Gardiner's post.
Religion
22 September 2015 21:35
Margus Meigo commented on Silver Meikar's post.
usun et ei
22 September 2015 18:44
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
igastlugusi saab tekitada kuululegendide jagamiseks, kui lazete valevalla, siis ise kannate selle tulemusi Jumala ees
22 September 2015 15:34
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
inimesed kellel pariselt on info laevad selle netti ylesse koigepealt kiirelt,et ellu jaada, teistele vaatamiseks, et ega kaGebeelt see kodukootud info parit ole hoopistykkis, et Eestlased ise ennast uuristama panna läbi enda mustamise ja väljapoolsuse kaudu ennast ise mustata.
sugardoc ja DropBox kaks koht kus lihtsalt tasuta saab yles laadida palju faile, jääme ootama ja niisama plädisejatel pea maha
sugardoc ja DropBox kaks koht kus lihtsalt tasuta saab yles laadida palju faile, jääme ootama ja niisama plädisejatel pea maha
22 September 2015 15:32
Margus Meigo commented on S Kalibre Mc's post.
5ppl really like it
22 September 2015 14:20
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Meigo's post.
mis mõttes
22 September 2015 14:13
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce Fenton's post.
what about scientologist. ::voodoo and
22 September 2015 09:53
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce Fenton's post.
what about satanists!,scientologysr
22 September 2015 09:51
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Group: The Winding Stairs Freemasonry Group
yeah22 September 2015 04:52
Margus Meigo commented on Craig Frazier's post.
Group: The Winding Stairs Freemasonry Group
pagarid22 September 2015 04:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Korterite üürimine (MAAKLERITETA!)
Mida rohkem kesklinna poole seda parem (või 17,3, 23, Liivalaia... teele jääv)
Igasugune abi oodatud,
Eesti Tulevik sõltub sellest!19 September 2015 20:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: KORTERITE/MAJADE MÜÜK/ÜÜRIMINE !
Mida rohkem kesklinna poole seda parem (või 17,3, 23, Liivalaia... teele jääv)
Igasugune abi oodatud,
Eesti Tulevik sõltub sellest!19 September 2015 20:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Üürikorterid (ILMA MAAKLERITA)
Mida rohkem kesklinna poole seda parem (või 17,3, 23, Liivalaia... teele jääv)
Igasugune abi oodatud,
Eesti Tulevik sõltub sellest!19 September 2015 20:36
Margus Meigo replied to Marek Kruglov's comment.
Group: Korterite üürimine (MAAKLERITETA!)
Sama küsimus jah : )19 September 2015 19:42
Margus Meigo commented on Web Summit's link.
Sing me in for sure
18 September 2015 12:47
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's post.
Nice one Mark!
Good!
Good!
17 September 2015 16:48
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Wau, see toimib siis ka sedasi, hästi, või ainult eri väljaannetel.. ja eri moodi timmides .. või on asi päris maamehe kindel ?
15 September 2015 11:02
Margus Meigo commented on Los 40 México's photo.
Hahaha, good one .D
15 September 2015 11:01
Margus Meigo commented on Bridget Trabue-Knighton's photo.
So well placed
15 September 2015 10:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Thank you for registering for RSA Conference 2015 Abu Dhabi taking place 4 - 5 November at the Emirates Palace in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates. Please print and keep this email for future reference as it contains details about your RSA Conference Abu Dhabi 2015 registration."
http://www.rsaconference.com/events/ad15/agenda/keynotes
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14 September 2015 19:08
Margus Meigo commented on Halima Jallo's photo.
Red head are .. : )
ON my family lieage there is real red heads as well
ON my family lieage there is real red heads as well
14 September 2015 15:42
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
true feminist, matriarchical nature feminist, who value women and life, actually feel sickening about ANY millitary related news, that top of man also want to trick women in to it.. this is just... wrong, in many levels
14 September 2015 15:25
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
well... if in a brain one belives, we moove in to direction of no wars..
14 September 2015 15:06
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
But as we moove in to direction of one happy family with no wars between whites and soon between no one... (jes..) then i guess thats good idea
14 September 2015 15:06
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
welll.. this is right and wrong in so many levels, that is nearly impossible to comment
14 September 2015 15:05
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Zuckerberg's photo.
Parti looks good, just be carefulof all these pentagram, fivestars everywhere as the owners of these stars, have costum in their magic to interpet and demand their own forces based on what they imagine
(a.k.a if someone is on same picture posing under stars ...)
(a.k.a if someone is on same picture posing under stars ...)
14 September 2015 12:36
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's post.
How does it seem, is Communism falling and true China people rising from Nature Is Smart?
12 September 2015 11:58
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
All the best best best from here also !
12 September 2015 10:56
Margus Meigo commented on Bridget Trabue-Knighton's post.
Yeay, Carona, my favorite!
12 September 2015 09:24
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Nu vähemalt on islamimisjonääre, siis saab vähemalt mingil tasemel siin rääkida, nad känu otsa istuma pannes küla habemikega, Eesti Vana korra järgi.
Kui pole uskliki, siis pole ju midagi rääkida
Kui pole uskliki, siis pole ju midagi rääkida
11 September 2015 12:35
Margus Meigo commented on Ercole Frangetta's photo.
http://www.theholyrosary.org/rosaryhistory
http://www.theholyrosary.org/rosaryhistory
11 September 2015 12:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja koridoris riide hoiu proua muheledes naeris "NU vanasti oli ikka raha see mis rattad käima pani.."
"Nu see oli Vanasti..."
"Nu see oli Vanasti..."
9 September 2015 12:52
Margus Meigo commented on Ram Chandram's post.
Group: ~ David Icke ~
Dont ya know, airplanes evaporade after they crash, sometimes8 September 2015 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
väga ulme, viisnurkasi on lubatud tatoveerida kui iganes palju, näiteks sedasi ringi liikuda: :https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=146104202399528
kuid teistpidi idiooti pannes, idiooti mille aluspõhi seisneb mingitel väärtustel millegi parandamises vähemalt, siis vangi ?
MIs mõttes nagu ?
kuid teistpidi idiooti pannes, idiooti mille aluspõhi seisneb mingitel väärtustel millegi parandamises vähemalt, siis vangi ?
MIs mõttes nagu ?
8 September 2015 20:24
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's photo.
Wau!!!
Su hing ikka jõuab haarata :)))
Su hing ikka jõuab haarata :)))
8 September 2015 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's photo.
still drinking,
the good ones :D
the good ones :D
8 September 2015 14:48
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's photo.
peasi, et selfidega liiga hoogu eip satu muidu heade iltide vägevam mõju nõrgeneb
8 September 2015 14:43
Margus Meigo commented on Maarja Hiiekivi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ülemine täpp tähendab ka pühavaimu mis alumisele kolmele mõtte annab need liites ja samas kooloniks muutudes4 September 2015 11:39
Margus Meigo commented on Maarja Hiiekivi's post.
Group: Kristlased
.:.4 September 2015 11:39
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's photo.
Beard looks proper good on you
4 September 2015 11:09
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's photo.
noh, see juba tuusalt esinduslik ja lipsuvaba ühes, nice!
3 September 2015 17:24
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
so soon they will be like Estonians, .... we got no gender prefixes and live fine
3 September 2015 14:54
Margus Meigo replied to Stan Rains's comment.
nothing to do with a women, it is a homo Roman Empire propacanda, communist propacanda.. just using softies to make it look more human
3 September 2015 14:52
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
nu siis on päris katki ikka :D
3 September 2015 14:49
Margus Meigo commented on Patricia Awyan's post.
Group: The Khemit School of Ancient Mysticism
growwings1 September 2015 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on Patricia Awyan's post.
Group: The Khemit School of Ancient Mysticism
We in Estonia also consider our self as one of the oldest makers of human species n nature helpers in long generation of world makings1 September 2015 15:40
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Meigo's post.
kus seened on
29 August 2015 17:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
:D
29 August 2015 17:46
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
oh jumal,
amm.. palu kõvasti , aitab ka :D
kuid jah, riisi mõte päris hea.. muidugi kellel 50 kilost kotti kodus riisiga on, et sinna laptop panna
amm.. palu kõvasti , aitab ka :D
kuid jah, riisi mõte päris hea.. muidugi kellel 50 kilost kotti kodus riisiga on, et sinna laptop panna
29 August 2015 13:17
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
monsta inside
28 August 2015 15:45
Margus Meigo commented on Nur Natasya's post.
true
28 August 2015 15:45
Margus Meigo replied to Edgar Špongolts's comment.
indeed :p
24 August 2015 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
All true
24 August 2015 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
i think Shout Park had series about it
24 August 2015 16:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kui küsida, tekib idee ja nõudlus, kui nõudlus, siis turg, kui turg siis toode ja ostad ja kui ostjad ja hea toode... siis see hoiab turgu elus ja turul olijad õnnelikud : ))
indeed, we can dream
indeed, we can dream
20 August 2015 09:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Or better jet, directly to another planetary species:
https://www.facebook.com/events/1155651297795315/
(composer who has told he gets hes music from another planteray beings and who is proper relgious)
https://www.facebook.com/events/1155651297795315/
(composer who has told he gets hes music from another planteray beings and who is proper relgious)
From 25 August 2015 18:00 to 27 August 2015 20:00
19 August 2015 10:45
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's photo.
Nu nii jaaa : )
19 August 2015 09:43
Margus Meigo commented on Erin Janus's photo.
sedasi juba aaastaid
18 August 2015 22:58
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Estrada's post.
am for pro choice to be pro life
18 August 2015 09:43
Margus Meigo commented on Allen Ott's post.
Group: Galactic Federation of Light
true that18 August 2015 09:42
Margus Meigo commented on Edu Akadeemia's link.
ka ei õpetatud, et kärbseseeni tuleks süüa ja et kanep on kasulik, ei õpetatud oma riii eest vastutama ja religiooni headusest ei räägitud midagi
18 August 2015 09:42
Margus Meigo commented on Hillar Kohv's post.
Group: Innele Inimelude Partei .
need kes seda usuvad, et sellel midagi päriselt islamiga seotud, on ise pigem ebardid umala silmis
kasutage oma AJU raasukest ja MÕELGE... saage are KES a MIKS seda teeb... a te veel toetate ka neid jagades nende verist propakandat, viisnurga oma....18 August 2015 09:39
Margus Meigo commented on The Grid's link.
is there wiki pae for it ?
18 August 2015 09:35
Margus Meigo replied to Taylor Made's comment.
what group is that who mostly knows, let me meet them
18 August 2015 09:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
väga hea jutt üldiselt, 4 pluss
17 August 2015 17:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ehk tee õiget tööd
17 August 2015 17:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ku isoovid, et su eraelu ja töö audentne oleks, kui need teineteisest üle lähevad, siis jälgi, et töö mida teed oelks sama mida eraelu vajab.. ja siis need.. kõi ksee sama kehtib
17 August 2015 17:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kas kunst on igav ku ita e itektia häädumist? Ei... hõõrdumist pole vaja, kuid hõõrdumine saab olla hea, sest see aitab sind õigele teele tagasi suunata,.,.. märku anda...
kingad mis ei hõõru... on pigem head.... kingad mis hõõruvad.. on hea, et nad märku annavad, et need vaja välja vahetada, näiteks, ja see firma kinni panna või neile muudatusi suusoovitada... või avastada oam jala eripära
kingad mis ei hõõru... on pigem head.... kingad mis hõõruvad.. on hea, et nad märku annavad, et need vaja välja vahetada, näiteks, ja see firma kinni panna või neile muudatusi suusoovitada... või avastada oam jala eripära
17 August 2015 17:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kas matemaatika ja muud teadused, bioloogia ettekanded on igavad, sest nad ei tekita höördumist ja vastuolusi sinus... ja kõigis neis kes neist innustunud ?
17 August 2015 17:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
samasugused inimesed.. peakstki.. oma uskusi võimednama.. senikaua kui nende vahel on looduse joon.. ehk ained mis neilt nende minale pidevalt näitab seda mis nende ümber on ja mis infod liiguvad meis endis... hoomamatudes suurustes... siis on ainu õige otsus uuesti kokku tulla.. ja sarnase platformi põhjal kokku leppida, proovida mõelda, kuidas uuesti üheks saada, paremaks edasi liikumiseks
17 August 2015 16:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
..ja isegi sellel juhul... kui need sõõrid oleks olemas, ja iimene oleks ise oma info kandja... et siis teine oleks sama mis tema.. siis see oleks ideaal tegemiseks seda mis on õige,
aga oh ei... siinNe maakrea külalised poandud uskuma, et õigemaid asju nagu poleks õigus uskuda... ja üldse, uskuda nagu poleks õigem kui olla teadmatuses, ehk seisakus, ringiratast siblimas, teadmatuse suunas ehitades omades ükskõikset illusiooni sellest mis siis saab ja kuidas, omades tunnetuse puudust kuidas on õige ja kuhu jõuda soovime, sellliselt, et erinevad inimesed kes head alles jääksid
aga oh ei... siinNe maakrea külalised poandud uskuma, et õigemaid asju nagu poleks õigus uskuda... ja üldse, uskuda nagu poleks õigem kui olla teadmatuses, ehk seisakus, ringiratast siblimas, teadmatuse suunas ehitades omades ükskõikset illusiooni sellest mis siis saab ja kuidas, omades tunnetuse puudust kuidas on õige ja kuhu jõuda soovime, sellliselt, et erinevad inimesed kes head alles jääksid
17 August 2015 16:57
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
kuid muidu, suures plaanis true
17 August 2015 15:42
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
kui inimesel muidugi tunded messed up on või muudest ainetest segatud, siis suht.. jah.. võidakse segaduse ja valu asjadest tekitatud mõtted panna tunnete info alla.
17 August 2015 15:42
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
kometaar: "I snort weed and smoke beer every day!"
17 August 2015 15:39
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
some of them need some of that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpviOnRXVkA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpviOnRXVkA
17 August 2015 15:38
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's post.
see kolab nii väljakutsuvalt, et lausa sooviks pikemalt. kuid eks see kas toetatakse on teisejärgulisem vaimsetele arusaamadele miks mis toimub, kui eirata raha ja veel suuremaid pohjusi otsida hingeorja kaupmeeste tegudes
16 August 2015 19:11
Margus Meigo commented on Henry Westons's post.
Tee peale ka, siis head triibud
15 August 2015 22:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ahjaa: 585968 24
15 August 2015 20:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yo Oll:p
15 August 2015 18:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
õuna, kasvoi kaneeli, ... mahla kui vaja... mida veel seemneid kui soovid.. ja: https://www.google.ee/search?q=leivasupp&num=100&newwindow=1&client=seamonkey-a&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X Woila! Hea much!
15 August 2015 17:49
Margus Meigo commented on Rich Gordon's post.
Group: Misandry in the Media
i love Gold diggers, as they dig what is nearly only walue some of these guys have with them15 August 2015 15:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" is one of the world's major commercial hubs, the fourth-largest financial centre and one of the top two busiest container ports in the world for at least .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SingaporeSingapore National University of Singapore "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SingaporeSingapore
15 August 2015 15:37
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's post.
anna abi :D
14 August 2015 21:58
Margus Meigo commented on John Ishvaradas Abdallah's post.
Group: World Without Borders Interfaith Sufi Ashram
America wants to send strong message of others to obey not to go to war...
this might sound thretening to some more advanced older cultures, who looks America as yong punk who bosses around with power that was given to them for temporally..14 August 2015 21:55
Margus Meigo commented on Siberi Võmm's post.
Nu näed, ma sutsu liiga noor veel
14 August 2015 10:25
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
vaatasin, nüüd maha jahtunud.. 37 kuni 44 ainult
13 August 2015 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
wtf 72 kraaadi??????
13 August 2015 19:54
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
võiks veel paar karmimat plus ja miinust panna
Kuid jah.. kanep vaimselt arendav, jumala pole viiv ja teine vastupidi..
yks oma vigasi nägema panev alko aga oma vigasi unustama panev
Kuid jah.. kanep vaimselt arendav, jumala pole viiv ja teine vastupidi..
yks oma vigasi nägema panev alko aga oma vigasi unustama panev
13 August 2015 19:51
Margus Meigo commented on Margus Peterson's post.
Küll tema on ikka kuulsaks saanud : )
11 August 2015 16:09
Margus Meigo commented on Michel Bauwens's post.
Group: P2P
"Shadow banks have been estimated to have investable assets (i.e. relatively short term and liquid) of about $75 trillion globally as of year end 2014, a total that does not include revenue from ‘portfolio’ shadow-shadow banking."
nice10 August 2015 16:28
Margus Meigo commented on Cindi Ma Rushing's post.
on the world, and what is rlated to human worlds
10 August 2015 11:44
Margus Meigo commented on Cindi Ma Rushing's post.
and under world, we mean people
10 August 2015 11:44
Margus Meigo commented on Cindi Ma Rushing's post.
or rather "do not blame the world, maybe you jsut surrounded by..."
10 August 2015 11:44
Margus Meigo commented on Cindi Ma Rushing's post.
first step what allan wats or antony demello i think, .. or was it robert anton wilson.. who reccomend, to seck, that if you feel depressed do not think urself is weird but maybe you just surrounded by aasholes (almoust direct quote)
10 August 2015 11:43
Margus Meigo commented on Sirje Laansoo's post.
Group: Dimensioonid
Ta võiks alustada sellest, et avalikult selgitada kes ta ise on ja miks ta sellese projecti pandi, kus ta "andmete paljastajat" ja "ülejooksjat" mängima pidi hakkama,
mitte, et need admed pooltki nii olulised oleks olnud, või olema saavad, kui need lood mille rääkimiseks teda kasutamahakatakse10 August 2015 11:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
10 points who recognizes the roof first :D
(extra 25 if ya can recognize the corner on picture of right)
(extra 25 if ya can recognize the corner on picture of right)
8 August 2015 00:01
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's photo.
ei tegelt maletan aegu kui ise tol ajal Danielly sai joodud, päris eliit oli :p
7 August 2015 23:46
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
give thumbs up already after first few guitar stings and saw this baby with a dog :D
3 August 2015 20:02
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Anti's post.
unless they are dead and you have alzhaimers
or just lost ur memory
or just lost ur memory
3 August 2015 19:27
Margus Meigo commented on Thu Thuy's post.
Group: ALIENS
is the zonnews.com joke site?
I ask seriouslly, ... but the websie does not loead for me..http://zonnews.com/
3 August 2015 17:36
Margus Meigo commented on Thu Thuy's post.
Group: ALIENS
thats a bit far strech is it?3 August 2015 17:33
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ALIENS
My conenction is sad,
can you make the short comment of the video hilights3 August 2015 17:31
Margus Meigo replied to Rachel Souza's comment.
well, this is nice way to put it but in generally people like that are known as "aasholes" or "Jerks"
3 August 2015 17:25
Margus Meigo replied to Chris Perkins's comment.
vaginas are nothing to be immature about
3 August 2015 17:23
Margus Meigo replied to Rachel Souza's comment.
actually it is not OK
eye for a eye and we have blind world
eye for a eye and we have blind world
3 August 2015 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
okey seccond thought, it is messed up still.
BUt am would be happy when man start to become man again not ROman culture homo slaves, and grow back their long hair and beards, to get back the proper earth connections
This does not just apply to women, but specially to man also: http://mytinysecrets.com/the-magical-powers-of-your-hair/
so yeah... and these coloring womens.. they basically like bold almoust.. that means not much of connection to reallity
BUt am would be happy when man start to become man again not ROman culture homo slaves, and grow back their long hair and beards, to get back the proper earth connections
This does not just apply to women, but specially to man also: http://mytinysecrets.com/the-magical-powers-of-your-hair/
so yeah... and these coloring womens.. they basically like bold almoust.. that means not much of connection to reallity
http://mytinysecrets.com/the-magical-powers-of-your-hair/
3 August 2015 16:47
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Actually she looks terrific
first bearded woen am would hand with to have a joint .. as i think she her self knows irony of it all
first bearded woen am would hand with to have a joint .. as i think she her self knows irony of it all
3 August 2015 16:44
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
I think the communists are behind these kind of things usually,
the Greek-Roman todays front,
as they had these kind of thinkings long time ago... including all the homo things and seperating women from motherhood so they can be independant with a huspand
to get them emotionally broken so is more easy to controll by state
and if people act wrong, if there is lack of love.. then .. then people are in dark and they need to be guided.. and there is many guides
ready, waiting
the Greek-Roman todays front,
as they had these kind of thinkings long time ago... including all the homo things and seperating women from motherhood so they can be independant with a huspand
to get them emotionally broken so is more easy to controll by state
and if people act wrong, if there is lack of love.. then .. then people are in dark and they need to be guided.. and there is many guides
ready, waiting
3 August 2015 16:41
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
give me a fiver
3 August 2015 15:28
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
muidugi ära tatoosi väga alahinda.. nendel ikka ka suur roll, sest see näitab muu vaimumaailmaga seotust, millele inimene allub, nagu ka lipsu kandmine... kuig suur osa kannab lipsu ja ei teagi miks :D
2 August 2015 20:09
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's photo.
naish
2 August 2015 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Keep us updated Prentice
2 August 2015 11:01
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Triinu Kuu vaata seda õiguse ja headuse eest rabelevat meeest kes oma turvalisuse ja rep hinnaga siin suuresti võitleb meie kõigi eest , võimas
2 August 2015 10:59
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's photo.
alko on enamuste geeniuste lukk ja lõks ja haud.. mis nende potensiaali lukustab "reaaalseks" .. ehk selleks mida yhiskond pakub
2 August 2015 10:55
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's photo.
mis nussid alxiga, võta seeni, endal hallidest vaimudest ja magamata öödest silmad juba paistes :p
2 August 2015 10:54
Margus Meigo commented on Vernon King's post.
or mobile phone
(lol, "Necessity... in todays people minds...)
(lol, "Necessity... in todays people minds...)
31 July 2015 20:12
Margus Meigo commented on Vernon King's post.
You mean like toilet paper?
31 July 2015 20:11
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
i first thought these bikes was grafity
31 July 2015 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
what what... means what?
31 July 2015 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
31 July 2015 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
this order that funds black-red ideologically makes Adolf look like pussy, on demands and list of people who they will eliminate (they will also eliminate useful idiots inmost part, afterth mission is completed, ... in partly you can also see the open plan one side and thinkings from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain-Washing_%28book%29 .. this book is also part of the project, psychological war, but good still)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain-Washing_%28book%29
30 July 2015 16:43
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
you do know that red and black is Kreml run communist-fassist front for underground antifa face...
inflatration of human species, they work for proper totalitarian order, ... i mean the ones who keep the red-blakc thing going... people them self are ignorant and good mostly.. but they should lookwho runs them and why, remotly
inflatration of human species, they work for proper totalitarian order, ... i mean the ones who keep the red-blakc thing going... people them self are ignorant and good mostly.. but they should lookwho runs them and why, remotly
30 July 2015 16:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
From same people .:. Dating Site Social Psychology Network
"Reciprocal Recommendation System for Online Dating" And
"Who is Dating Whom: Characterizing User Behaviors of a Large Online Dating Site"
Our results also reveal interesting behavioral difference between male and female users when it comes to looking for potential dates. In particular, males tend to be focused on their own interest and oblivious towards their attractiveness to potential dates, while females are more conscientious to their own attractiveness to the other side of the line.
also
We introduce similarity measures that capture the unique features and characteristics of the online dating network, for example, the interest similarity between two users if they send messages to same users, and attractiveness similarity if they receive messages from same users.
Our results show that it is important to differentiate between users' true preferences and random selection. Some user behaviors in choosing attributes in a potential date may largely be a result of random selection. We also find that both males and females are more likely to reply to users whose attributes come closest to the stated preferences of the receivers, and there is significant discrepancy between a user's stated dating preference and his/her actual online dating behavior. These results can provide valuable guidelines to the design of a recommendation engine for potential dates.
. Many of our results on user messaging behavior align with notions in social and evolutionary psychology: males tend to look for younger females while females put more emphasis on the socioeconomic status (e.g., income, education level) of a potential date.
Submitted 26 Jan 2015 to Social and Information Networks [cs.SI]
Published 27 Jan 2015
Updated 27 Jan 2015
Peng Xia, Benyuan Liu, Yizhou Sun, Cindy Chen
http://arxiv.org/abs/1501.06247
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1501.06247.pdf
and
Submitted 22 Jan 2014 to Social and Information Networks [cs.SI]
Published 23 Jan 2014
Subjects: cs.SI cs.SY physics.soc-ph
http://arxiv.org/abs/1401.5710
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1401.5710.pdf
Peng Xia, Kun Tu, Bruno Ribeiro, Hua Jiang, Xiaodong Wang, Cindy Chen, Benyuan Liu, Don Towsley
"Reciprocal Recommendation System for Online Dating" And
"Who is Dating Whom: Characterizing User Behaviors of a Large Online Dating Site"
Our results also reveal interesting behavioral difference between male and female users when it comes to looking for potential dates. In particular, males tend to be focused on their own interest and oblivious towards their attractiveness to potential dates, while females are more conscientious to their own attractiveness to the other side of the line.
also
We introduce similarity measures that capture the unique features and characteristics of the online dating network, for example, the interest similarity between two users if they send messages to same users, and attractiveness similarity if they receive messages from same users.
Our results show that it is important to differentiate between users' true preferences and random selection. Some user behaviors in choosing attributes in a potential date may largely be a result of random selection. We also find that both males and females are more likely to reply to users whose attributes come closest to the stated preferences of the receivers, and there is significant discrepancy between a user's stated dating preference and his/her actual online dating behavior. These results can provide valuable guidelines to the design of a recommendation engine for potential dates.
. Many of our results on user messaging behavior align with notions in social and evolutionary psychology: males tend to look for younger females while females put more emphasis on the socioeconomic status (e.g., income, education level) of a potential date.
Submitted 26 Jan 2015 to Social and Information Networks [cs.SI]
Published 27 Jan 2015
Updated 27 Jan 2015
Peng Xia, Benyuan Liu, Yizhou Sun, Cindy Chen
http://arxiv.org/abs/1501.06247
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1501.06247.pdf
and
Submitted 22 Jan 2014 to Social and Information Networks [cs.SI]
Published 23 Jan 2014
Subjects: cs.SI cs.SY physics.soc-ph
http://arxiv.org/abs/1401.5710
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1401.5710.pdf
Peng Xia, Kun Tu, Bruno Ribeiro, Hua Jiang, Xiaodong Wang, Cindy Chen, Benyuan Liu, Don Towsley
http://arxiv.org/abs/1501.06247
30 July 2015 12:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
From same people .:. about PETs and legal obligations
Privacy and data protection constitute core values of individuals and of democratic societies. There have been decades of debate on how those values -and legal obligations- can be embedded into systems, preferably from the very beginning of the design process. One important element in this endeavour are technical mechanisms, known as privacy-enhancing technologies (PETs). Their effectiveness has been demonstrated by researchers and in pilot implementations. However, apart from a few exceptions, e.g., encryption became widely used, PETs have not become a standard and widely used component in system design. Furthermore, for unfolding their full benefit for privacy and data protection, PETs need to be rooted in a data governance strategy to be applied in practice. This report contributes to bridging the gap between the legal framework and the available technological implementation measures by providing an inventory of existing approaches, privacy design strategies, and technical building blocks of various degrees of maturity from research and development. Starting from the privacy principles of the legislation, important elements are presented as a first step towards a design process for privacy-friendly systems and services. The report sketches a method to map legal obligations to design strategies, which allow the system designer to select appropriate techniques for implementing the identified privacy requirements. Furthermore, the report reflects limitations of the approach. It concludes with recommendations on how to overcome and mitigate these limits.
George Danezis, Josep Domingo-Ferrer, Marit Hansen, Jaap-Henk Hoepman, Daniel Le Metayer, Rodica Tirtea, Stefan Schiffner
Submitted 12 Jan 2015 to Cryptography and Security [cs.CR]
Published 16 Jan 2015
Updated 10 Apr 2015
Author comments: 79 pages in European Union Agency for Network and Information Security (ENISA) report, December 2014, ISBN 978-92-9204-108-3
Msc class: 94A60
Doi: 10.2824/38623
http://arxiv.org/abs/1501.03726
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1501.03726.pdf
Privacy and data protection constitute core values of individuals and of democratic societies. There have been decades of debate on how those values -and legal obligations- can be embedded into systems, preferably from the very beginning of the design process. One important element in this endeavour are technical mechanisms, known as privacy-enhancing technologies (PETs). Their effectiveness has been demonstrated by researchers and in pilot implementations. However, apart from a few exceptions, e.g., encryption became widely used, PETs have not become a standard and widely used component in system design. Furthermore, for unfolding their full benefit for privacy and data protection, PETs need to be rooted in a data governance strategy to be applied in practice. This report contributes to bridging the gap between the legal framework and the available technological implementation measures by providing an inventory of existing approaches, privacy design strategies, and technical building blocks of various degrees of maturity from research and development. Starting from the privacy principles of the legislation, important elements are presented as a first step towards a design process for privacy-friendly systems and services. The report sketches a method to map legal obligations to design strategies, which allow the system designer to select appropriate techniques for implementing the identified privacy requirements. Furthermore, the report reflects limitations of the approach. It concludes with recommendations on how to overcome and mitigate these limits.
George Danezis, Josep Domingo-Ferrer, Marit Hansen, Jaap-Henk Hoepman, Daniel Le Metayer, Rodica Tirtea, Stefan Schiffner
Submitted 12 Jan 2015 to Cryptography and Security [cs.CR]
Published 16 Jan 2015
Updated 10 Apr 2015
Author comments: 79 pages in European Union Agency for Network and Information Security (ENISA) report, December 2014, ISBN 978-92-9204-108-3
Msc class: 94A60
Doi: 10.2824/38623
http://arxiv.org/abs/1501.03726
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1501.03726.pdf
http://arxiv.org/abs/1501.03726
30 July 2015 12:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
From same people .:. re-identifying anonymized social networks
We present a generic and automated approach to re-identifying nodes in anonymized social networks which enables novel anonymization techniques to be quickly evaluated. It uses machine learning (decision forests) to matching pairs of nodes in disparate anonymized sub-graphs. The technique uncovers artefacts and invariants of any black-box anonymization scheme from a small set of examples. Despite a high degree of automation, classification succeeds with significant true positive rates even when small false positive rates are sought. Our evaluation uses publicly available real world datasets to study the performance of our approach against real-world anonymization strategies, namely the schemes used to protect datasets of The Data for Development (D4D) Challenge. We show that the technique is effective even when only small numbers of samples are used for training. Further, since it detects weaknesses in the black-box anonymization scheme it can re-identify nodes in one social network when trained on another.
Submitted 6 Aug 2014 to Cryptography and Security [cs.CR]
Published 7 Aug 2014
Updated 7 Aug 2014
Subjects: cs.CR cs.SI
Author comments: 12 pages
Kumar Sharad, George Danezis
http://arxiv.org/abs/1408.1276
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1408.1276.pdf
We present a generic and automated approach to re-identifying nodes in anonymized social networks which enables novel anonymization techniques to be quickly evaluated. It uses machine learning (decision forests) to matching pairs of nodes in disparate anonymized sub-graphs. The technique uncovers artefacts and invariants of any black-box anonymization scheme from a small set of examples. Despite a high degree of automation, classification succeeds with significant true positive rates even when small false positive rates are sought. Our evaluation uses publicly available real world datasets to study the performance of our approach against real-world anonymization strategies, namely the schemes used to protect datasets of The Data for Development (D4D) Challenge. We show that the technique is effective even when only small numbers of samples are used for training. Further, since it detects weaknesses in the black-box anonymization scheme it can re-identify nodes in one social network when trained on another.
Submitted 6 Aug 2014 to Cryptography and Security [cs.CR]
Published 7 Aug 2014
Updated 7 Aug 2014
Subjects: cs.CR cs.SI
Author comments: 12 pages
Kumar Sharad, George Danezis
http://arxiv.org/abs/1408.1276
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1408.1276.pdf
http://arxiv.org/abs/1408.1276
30 July 2015 12:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
From same people .:. RSCoin
Current cryptocurrencies, starting with Bitcoin, build a decentralized blockchain-based transaction ledger, maintained through proofs-of-work that also generate a monetary supply. Such decentralization has benefits, such as independence from national political control, but also significant limitations in terms of scalability and computational cost. We introduce RSCoin, a cryptocurrency framework in which central banks maintain complete control over the monetary supply, but rely on a distributed set of authorities, or mintettes, to prevent double-spending. While monetary policy is centralized, RSCoin still provides strong transparency and auditability guarantees. We demonstrate, both theoretically and experimentally, the benefits of a modest degree of centralization, such as the elimination of wasteful hashing and a scalable system for avoiding double-spending attacks.
Submitted 26 May 2015 to Cryptography and Security [cs.CR]
Published 27 May 2015
George Danezis, Sarah Meiklejohn
Author comments: 13 pages, 4 figures, 2 tables
http://arxiv.org/abs/1505.06895
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1505.06895.pdf
Current cryptocurrencies, starting with Bitcoin, build a decentralized blockchain-based transaction ledger, maintained through proofs-of-work that also generate a monetary supply. Such decentralization has benefits, such as independence from national political control, but also significant limitations in terms of scalability and computational cost. We introduce RSCoin, a cryptocurrency framework in which central banks maintain complete control over the monetary supply, but rely on a distributed set of authorities, or mintettes, to prevent double-spending. While monetary policy is centralized, RSCoin still provides strong transparency and auditability guarantees. We demonstrate, both theoretically and experimentally, the benefits of a modest degree of centralization, such as the elimination of wasteful hashing and a scalable system for avoiding double-spending attacks.
Submitted 26 May 2015 to Cryptography and Security [cs.CR]
Published 27 May 2015
George Danezis, Sarah Meiklejohn
Author comments: 13 pages, 4 figures, 2 tables
http://arxiv.org/abs/1505.06895
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1505.06895.pdf
http://arxiv.org/abs/1505.06895
30 July 2015 12:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
From same people .:. SAINT
We address the problem of scaling authentication for naming, routing, and end-entity certification to a global environment in which authentication policies and users' sets of trust roots vary widely. The current mechanisms for authenticating names (DNSSEC), routes (BGPSEC), and end-entity certificates (TLS) do not support a coexistence of authentication policies, affect the entire Internet when compromised, cannot update trust root information efficiently, and do not provide users with the ability to make flexible trust decisions. We propose a Scalable Authentication Infrastructure for Next-generation Trust (SAINT), which partitions the Internet into groups with common, local trust roots, and isolates the effects of a compromised trust root. SAINT requires groups with direct routing connections to cross-sign each other for authentication purposes, allowing diverse authentication policies while keeping all entities globally verifiable. SAINT makes trust root management a central part of the network architecture, enabling trust root updates within seconds and allowing users to make flexible trust decisions. SAINT operates without a significant performance penalty and can be deployed alongside existing infrastructures.
Submitted 10 Jun 2015 to Cryptography and Security [cs.CR]
Published 11 Jun 2015
Updated 12 Jun 2015
Stephanos Matsumoto, Raphael M. Reischuk, Pawel Szalachowski, Tiffany Hyun-Jin Kim, Adrian Perrig
http://arxiv.org/abs/1506.03392
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1506.03392.pdf
We address the problem of scaling authentication for naming, routing, and end-entity certification to a global environment in which authentication policies and users' sets of trust roots vary widely. The current mechanisms for authenticating names (DNSSEC), routes (BGPSEC), and end-entity certificates (TLS) do not support a coexistence of authentication policies, affect the entire Internet when compromised, cannot update trust root information efficiently, and do not provide users with the ability to make flexible trust decisions. We propose a Scalable Authentication Infrastructure for Next-generation Trust (SAINT), which partitions the Internet into groups with common, local trust roots, and isolates the effects of a compromised trust root. SAINT requires groups with direct routing connections to cross-sign each other for authentication purposes, allowing diverse authentication policies while keeping all entities globally verifiable. SAINT makes trust root management a central part of the network architecture, enabling trust root updates within seconds and allowing users to make flexible trust decisions. SAINT operates without a significant performance penalty and can be deployed alongside existing infrastructures.
Submitted 10 Jun 2015 to Cryptography and Security [cs.CR]
Published 11 Jun 2015
Updated 12 Jun 2015
Stephanos Matsumoto, Raphael M. Reischuk, Pawel Szalachowski, Tiffany Hyun-Jin Kim, Adrian Perrig
http://arxiv.org/abs/1506.03392
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1506.03392.pdf
http://arxiv.org/abs/1506.03392
30 July 2015 12:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
From same people .:. FAIR
This paper presents FAIR, a forwarding accountability mechanism that incentivizes ISPs to apply stricter security policies to their customers. The Autonomous System (AS) of the receiver specifies a traffic profile that the sender AS must adhere to. Intermediate ASes on the path mark packets. In case of traffic profile violations, the marked packets are used as proof of misbehavior. FAIR introduces minimal bandwidth overhead and requires no per-packet and no per-flow state for forwarding. We describe integration with IPv4/IPv6 and demonstrate a software switch running on commodity hardware that can switch packets at a line rate of 120 Gbps, and can forward 140M minimum-sized packets per second, limited by the hardware I/O subsystem. Furthermore, FAIR is incrementally deployable and provides incentives for adoption to edge ASes and ISPs. Moreover, this paper proposes a "suspicious bit" for packet headers - an application that builds on top of FAIR's proofs of misbehavior and flags packets to warn other entities in the network.
Submitted 29 Jan 2015 to Networking and Internet Architecture [cs.NI]
Published 30 Jan 2015
Updated 3 Feb 2015
Christos Pappas, Raphael M. Reischuk, Adrian Perrig
Author comments: 18 pages, 12 figures
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1501.07586.pdf
http://arxiv.org/abs/1501.07586
This paper presents FAIR, a forwarding accountability mechanism that incentivizes ISPs to apply stricter security policies to their customers. The Autonomous System (AS) of the receiver specifies a traffic profile that the sender AS must adhere to. Intermediate ASes on the path mark packets. In case of traffic profile violations, the marked packets are used as proof of misbehavior. FAIR introduces minimal bandwidth overhead and requires no per-packet and no per-flow state for forwarding. We describe integration with IPv4/IPv6 and demonstrate a software switch running on commodity hardware that can switch packets at a line rate of 120 Gbps, and can forward 140M minimum-sized packets per second, limited by the hardware I/O subsystem. Furthermore, FAIR is incrementally deployable and provides incentives for adoption to edge ASes and ISPs. Moreover, this paper proposes a "suspicious bit" for packet headers - an application that builds on top of FAIR's proofs of misbehavior and flags packets to warn other entities in the network.
Submitted 29 Jan 2015 to Networking and Internet Architecture [cs.NI]
Published 30 Jan 2015
Updated 3 Feb 2015
Christos Pappas, Raphael M. Reischuk, Adrian Perrig
Author comments: 18 pages, 12 figures
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1501.07586.pdf
http://arxiv.org/abs/1501.07586
30 July 2015 11:56
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's photo.
proper nice!
30 July 2015 10:28
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
It is really bad idea to put women to comabt as then we have two genders who are ucked up
30 July 2015 10:27
Margus Meigo replied to Eneli Hinno's comment.
tõesti, tõesti, see üks väga targaolemisega Naine . )
30 July 2015 10:26
Margus Meigo commented on Sandra Ashilevi's post.
Taolise süsteemiga restorani ketti kunagi ammu plaanisin juba teha, hea näha, et kuskilt jubamidagi kerkib : )
(et inimene maksab kuidas tunne on)
(et inimene maksab kuidas tunne on)
29 July 2015 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on Sandra Ashilevi's post.
Naish : )
29 July 2015 17:11
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
(st, erinevad lehed, eri faktidega, et rohkem huvitav oleks..)
seda võib rakendada sildi all, kui haridusprogramm "Õppi tundma oma naabermaa potensiaali"
seda võib rakendada sildi all, kui haridusprogramm "Õppi tundma oma naabermaa potensiaali"
29 July 2015 14:30
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
jagage luure andmete kõige magusamaid ka hullemaid fakte lendlehtedel, erinevaid, inimestele, mingi suur kast sadade erinevate faktidega ja juttudega (need muidugi eraldage märkega, mis vene enda faktid, mis CIA faktid, teaduse... ja mis loogika põhjal koostatud lood mis " Arvatvasti Tähendavad Ilmselgelt Seda et....." või siis "võttes seda arvesse, mis arvate mida see tähendab..") ... see oluline, et propagandist ja väärinfo agente saaks eristada Teabeametist või informaatoritest ...
ses osas, et me ei koo lugusi juurde, ega ei polsterda üle ilmavaatega.. sest kurbasi ilmselgeid fakte juba niigi palju käepärast..
igatahes.. hoitke sellist korvi seal.. ja PALJUDE erinevate lugude ja faktidega, mis kõik ka interneti lisa linkidega otsitavad, kui võimalik...
ehk tuleb mõni luure ametnik ja lisab ka korvi paar head materiali lisaks mida jagada
-
Võite ka linnavalitsusse kirja saata, et ehk nad saavad paar kasti kohukesi teile anda, mida inimeste juurde meelitamiskes jagada saaks, nad ikkagi ka ju... Eesti asja est seisavad ja võtame kui täis koostöö partnerina... hea asja nimel..
ses osas, et me ei koo lugusi juurde, ega ei polsterda üle ilmavaatega.. sest kurbasi ilmselgeid fakte juba niigi palju käepärast..
igatahes.. hoitke sellist korvi seal.. ja PALJUDE erinevate lugude ja faktidega, mis kõik ka interneti lisa linkidega otsitavad, kui võimalik...
ehk tuleb mõni luure ametnik ja lisab ka korvi paar head materiali lisaks mida jagada
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Võite ka linnavalitsusse kirja saata, et ehk nad saavad paar kasti kohukesi teile anda, mida inimeste juurde meelitamiskes jagada saaks, nad ikkagi ka ju... Eesti asja est seisavad ja võtame kui täis koostöö partnerina... hea asja nimel..
29 July 2015 14:30
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
saslõkki vist ei lubata teha vene saatkonna ees, kuid samas, NEMAD seda ika keelata ei saaks rohkem kui meie seda endale lubada.. riik peaks ikka tugevalt ühtne olema, et aru saksid külalised, et nad siin külalisena meie nõusolekul,
mitte selle pärast, et me nõuete pärast kedagi siin hoiame ja ei saaks kratist kinni võetud kui vaja
mitte selle pärast, et me nõuete pärast kedagi siin hoiame ja ei saaks kratist kinni võetud kui vaja
29 July 2015 14:24
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
lisaks piketile tehke midagi rahuslikku ja kasulikku, ilusat ja humoorikat, julget ja tarka ka... muidu irvitavad kontorist arvates, et mingid nupupulgad niisama väikse pundiga jooksevad nagu полезные дураки
29 July 2015 14:22
Margus Meigo commented on Henry Westons's photo.
vähemalt on auto alles või pole esiklaas vms
29 July 2015 11:10
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Kaasik's post.
Group: Kristlased
mul ema ka sööb toorest liha
kuid need asjad ikka, kuskilt muust vaimust sutsu.
Kuid vähemalt ta ise lihunik ja talupidaja ka, seega teab elu hinda natuke, kui pisaras silmas lehmale kes anudes otsa vaatab kui kuvaldga otsmiku vahele virutab, et maitseelamusi täita28 July 2015 19:39
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Kaasik's post.
Group: Kristlased
Siis tõnu, Sinu vaim on sutsu teisest liigist, kuid senikaua kui sa siiralt, loomale ka mõtled, ja ei käi laisalt selveris maha notitud liha üles korjamas.. vaid ise ka tunnetad .. et see loom vääris surma, et sinu maitse elamust toita, (sest su maitse kogemuse orgasm on olulisem, kui selle looma vaimu elu ja perekond) .. sis okey,
lihtsalt pea meeles, et inimliigile, see suures plaanis pole kohane, kuid meil on igast libahinte jms tegelasi, ja vampiire, kes hea südamega, ja heade soovidega, ega liha alati siis urjaks tee inimest28 July 2015 19:36
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Kaasik's post.
Group: Kristlased
inimesed kes on viinaga harunud, ka usuvad, et see ikka üks hea kraam on.. ja lausa võrdlevad.. et liviko viin vs. see tine viin.. ... kuigi kahel viinal vähem vahet kui kahel väljaheitel28 July 2015 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Kaasik's post.
Group: Kristlased
lihad ei paku mingeid võrratuid, isegi ligilähedaseid maitse elamusi spektruist mida on võimalik taimetoidust saada, see on täielikult välistatud.
Ning ainuke asi mis liha maitsvaks teeb, on TAIMED; maitseained, .. ilma nendeta.. ikka suht maitsetu oleks enamus liha ja nõme..28 July 2015 19:32
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Kaasik's post.
Group: Kristlased
meelis, lapsik loba suhu tagasi, Sa oled palju targemal tasemel kui see greeka-rooma müüdi arusaam, et kunagi inimesed koopas loomi jahtisid.. ja siis arenesid põllumajanduse peale28 July 2015 19:31
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Kaasik's post.
Group: Kristlased
Meelis, tõtt räägid, kuid need kes selliste olendite staatusesse ennast saanud enam internetis ei lobise28 July 2015 19:28
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Kaasik's post.
Group: Kristlased
Selgelt öeldakse, piiblis, et taimetoit on kasulikum, ja selgelt öldakse, et taimed loodi Sulle toiduks ja teistele loomadele ka toiduks, mitte, et loomad loodi sulle toiduks.... selgelt öeldakse, et jumala ees sinu hing ei ole väärtuslikum kui nende, kohe alguses ja kui neilt ELU VÕTAD siis spetsjom rituaaliga ainult .. et aru saaksid.. mida teed...
Meil aga suht Zombilikult konveieri lindipealt.. syyakse mida iganes tuupi tpitakse... suht haige28 July 2015 19:28
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Kaasik's post.
Group: Kristlased
Samuel, Nasariitlased (sh. Jesus, kes öeldakse, et vist ta ikka ei jaanud kala vaid mett..).. isegi Natsid on taimetoitlased mitmed suured eeskujud, ja siis siinsed inimesedei suuda või ei taha või ei hooli ?28 July 2015 19:26
Margus Meigo commented on Rauno Kaasik's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kui Sa PÄRIS õige usklikuks, päris Jumala teadjaks hakkad, siis liha üldse Sa enam ei söö (kui just Jumal ei käsi)
Olid ajad kus sai ajutiselt välja vabandada loomade söömise kuid praegu ammu juba ei ole sellised ajad28 July 2015 19:23
Margus Meigo commented on Stefnie Meyer's post.
So what are the best picks so far
28 July 2015 17:34
Margus Meigo replied to Liina Raitma's comment.
tubli!
27 July 2015 21:22
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's photo.
i forget to train my socks and they all managed to loose their buddy.. so i had like 2 bags of socks ... no idea how thats even statistically possible but yeah... i suspected some sockFerry
27 July 2015 21:21
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
holy :D
27 July 2015 21:17
Margus Meigo replied to Darius Moghaddam's comment.
Also there is difference between "allowing to criticize" and "allowing lies to rule people minds"
few people in these days are able to talk out about these kind of differences and halp us to realize who does what
Telling silly things like "Jews... pla pla controlling money and making wars " should be banned and people like that need to send healing centers, as thats dangerous lie by these whop actually enslave us (that often have been using Romans power and Greeks intellect to imprison our minds and body, and continuously eliminating cultures using all kind of unions like Soviet union and.. )
few people in these days are able to talk out about these kind of differences and halp us to realize who does what
Telling silly things like "Jews... pla pla controlling money and making wars " should be banned and people like that need to send healing centers, as thats dangerous lie by these whop actually enslave us (that often have been using Romans power and Greeks intellect to imprison our minds and body, and continuously eliminating cultures using all kind of unions like Soviet union and.. )
27 July 2015 21:14
Margus Meigo replied to Darius Moghaddam's comment.
Vell, i hope Jews some day will get Isreal back, as for now, majority of isreal political party's (top 4 at least) are against Hebrew Jews...
27 July 2015 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
would wait 20 minutes when its 4:20 .. and then light up a joint
27 July 2015 21:06
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
"What are these Godly milkshakes all about.." he thinks
27 July 2015 21:06
Margus Meigo replied to Liina Raitma's comment.
endal maasikad kapis ja "pole midagi.."
27 July 2015 21:04
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
väga ohtlik
väga väga ohtlik, sest nad kasutavad ohtlike revi ja tõde, Salomony saladusi ja spirit maailma mille osas suurem osa "crackereid" suht pimedad on..
neil samade motetega väga viisakalt toimetavaid, naeratavaid.. igas värvis inimesi
ohtlik ohtlik..
väga väga ohtlik, sest nad kasutavad ohtlike revi ja tõde, Salomony saladusi ja spirit maailma mille osas suurem osa "crackereid" suht pimedad on..
neil samade motetega väga viisakalt toimetavaid, naeratavaid.. igas värvis inimesi
ohtlik ohtlik..
27 July 2015 20:42
Margus Meigo replied to Douglas Millard's comment.
fourth element so the friend zone will become love and love making zone
but that's to sacred information to share in internet, just mentioning that its guys fault if he unable to open up hes heart in friend zone
in a way, that all 3 elements will stay, in fact using the blue section most in light combination of other 2
true story
but that's to sacred information to share in internet, just mentioning that its guys fault if he unable to open up hes heart in friend zone
in a way, that all 3 elements will stay, in fact using the blue section most in light combination of other 2
true story
27 July 2015 20:39
Margus Meigo replied to Douglas Millard's comment.
you just need to add fourth element then, to become irresistible to any women who is not jet in deep love,
27 July 2015 20:36
Margus Meigo commented on Martyna Kwiecień's photo.
Deep : )
27 July 2015 15:32
Margus Meigo commented on Martyna Kwiecień's photo.
Red and Blue : )
27 July 2015 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's photo.
Ilus!
26 July 2015 23:19
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja kõik kuidas, ja miks nad seda ise sedasi filmisid.. tundub ka omamoodi veider ja kahtlane.
Nagu lavatöö oleks seotud olnud asjaga, kui neid klippe vaadata, mitte nagu suvaline habemik kaameraga jooksnud oleks
Nagu lavatöö oleks seotud olnud asjaga, kui neid klippe vaadata, mitte nagu suvaline habemik kaameraga jooksnud oleks
26 July 2015 23:19
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
suures osas suht igav kunst tundub, ei tea kas need päriski on
26 July 2015 23:18
Margus Meigo replied to Aivar Pahk's comment.
oh neid viisnurki
26 July 2015 23:17
Margus Meigo commented on Dayanna Jazminne's photo.
Good bread! (Y)
26 July 2015 21:56
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce W Clark's post.
https://www.google.ee/search?q=hacker+airplane&num=100
https://www.google.ee/search?q=hacker+airplane&num=100
24 July 2015 21:15
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce W Clark's post.
if people would only know how many flaws there is and how many more will be in future.. but it is nice action by company to do so.
You newer see software-computer company to recall their products after tens, or thousands of flaws...
You newer see software-computer company to recall their products after tens, or thousands of flaws...
24 July 2015 21:13
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
i know there was something like that, if man takes by force a women in the city then 2 of them must die if no one hear Her calling help
But if country side and no one was there then man must put in death immediately.
(eg. in that court women word was a Law, as if she say it was so it was)
Deuteronomy 22:25-28
http://www.openbible.info/topics/rape
But if country side and no one was there then man must put in death immediately.
(eg. in that court women word was a Law, as if she say it was so it was)
Deuteronomy 22:25-28
http://www.openbible.info/topics/rape
http://www.openbible.info/topics/rape
24 July 2015 19:57
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
what passage ?
24 July 2015 19:40
Margus Meigo replied to Myrtle Brooder's comment.
this is why in my country before soviets come in to liberate, the grandmothers give daughters and girls razor blades,
as they know well that some man do not take no as an answer
as they know well that some man do not take no as an answer
24 July 2015 19:39
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Only if Queen allows King to grant You (prince..) these rights that She received from Mother Nature who is in bed with a Lord thy self
and few words from original G.. or was it J
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMaOOjOFDSc
and few words from original G.. or was it J
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMaOOjOFDSc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMaOOjOFDSc
24 July 2015 19:35
Margus Meigo replied to Jako Krull's comment.
ask from a tick ? :p
24 July 2015 19:27
Margus Meigo replied to Angelica Ravenna's comment.
wonder from who You heard... but i guess it all boils down to how you marinate it and is it a sweet tasting kids or grumpy smoking grandpa
24 July 2015 19:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and: "In the Lurianic systemisation of preceding Kabbalah, the anthropomorphic designation for Adam Kadmon describes its arrangement of the latent future sephirot in the harmonised configuration of man. However, Adam Kadmon itself is divine light without vessels, including all subsequent creation only in potential. This exalted anthropomorphism denotes that man is both the theocentric purpose of future creation, and the anthropocentric embodiment of the divine manifestations on high. This mythopoetic cosmogenesis and anthropogenesis enables the "Adam soul" to embody all human souls: the collective Yechidah ("singular") soul essence in Adam Kadmon, and the collective Neshamah ("soul") revealed soul in the Biblical Adam Ha-Rishon in the Garden of Eden."
The Gnostic Anthrôpos, therefore, or Adamas, as it is sometimes called, is a cosmogonic element, pure mind as distinct from matter, mind conceived hypostatically as emanating from God and not yet darkened by contact with matter. This mind is considered as the reason of humanity, or humanity itself, as a personified idea, a category without corporeality, the human reason conceived as the World-Soul. The same idea, somewhat modified, occurs in Hermetic literature, especially the Poimandres.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Kadmon
really hardcore stuff innit
The Gnostic Anthrôpos, therefore, or Adamas, as it is sometimes called, is a cosmogonic element, pure mind as distinct from matter, mind conceived hypostatically as emanating from God and not yet darkened by contact with matter. This mind is considered as the reason of humanity, or humanity itself, as a personified idea, a category without corporeality, the human reason conceived as the World-Soul. The same idea, somewhat modified, occurs in Hermetic literature, especially the Poimandres.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Kadmon
really hardcore stuff innit
24 July 2015 18:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And how does it fit to here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Worlds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Worlds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Worlds
24 July 2015 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on Serina Arlene 's post.
Group: Alan Watts
Honest guy : )24 July 2015 17:19
Margus Meigo commented on Serina Arlene 's post.
Group: Alan Watts
On what age is that recorded?24 July 2015 15:31
Margus Meigo commented on Ashwin Sriram's post.
Group: Alan Watts
Picture tells more then thousand words... best example of it24 July 2015 15:10
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce W Clark's post.
I thought Hitler banned to boil lobster on their vegetarian reform.
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/03/hitler-was-a-vegetarian/
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/03/hitler-was-a-vegetarian/
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/03/hitler-was-a-vegetarian/
23 July 2015 21:08
Margus Meigo commented on Yi Zhe's post.
OMG:.. is this what i think it is...
Amazing find these must be like 15 years old at least
Amazing find these must be like 15 years old at least
23 July 2015 21:06
Margus Meigo commented on Philipp Lausberg's post.
but we just MUST remember... it is all SAME roman empire ALL the time... who with similar spirits .. make same kind of massacres...
but it was interesting to see the graphs about .. in comparison ... how large was the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Lushan_Rebellion
but it was interesting to see the graphs about .. in comparison ... how large was the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Lushan_Rebellion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Lushan_Rebellion
23 July 2015 20:34
Margus Meigo commented on Philipp Lausberg's post.
Its like they try to make it look as Hitler was the worst bad and then we win this bad thanks to sacrifice of glorious soviets (whose leader also was a little bit naughty)
...and look the tone.. when he talks about huge loss of 20 thousand American soldiers... vs in the end "just" 200 000 Chinese soldiers..
...and look the tone.. when he talks about huge loss of 20 thousand American soldiers... vs in the end "just" 200 000 Chinese soldiers..
23 July 2015 20:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
What is difference between Black and Dark humor?
Dark humor: ten children stuffed in one box.
Black humor: one child stuffed in ten boxes.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dark+humor
Dark humor: ten children stuffed in one box.
Black humor: one child stuffed in ten boxes.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dark+humor
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dark+humor
23 July 2015 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"A black comedy (or dark comedy) is a comic work that employs farce and morbid humor, which, in its simplest form, is humor that makes light of subject matter usually considered taboo. Black humor corresponds to the earlier concept of gallows humor."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_comedy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_comedy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_comedy
23 July 2015 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce W Clark's post.
this guy is ... is he Irish? Sounds like gladiator times.. way over side of politically correct :D
"“The only rule will be, no hair pulling,” McCain said. “I’ve lost most of my hair and if I pulled on that bastard’s (Trump) hair, I’m afraid it would unravel and I’d be left holding a five-food strand of orange cotton candy…of course, I might be able to use it to strangle him. How great would that be?”
This isn’t the first time McCain has shown flashes of his legendary temper. On several occasions, the Arizona Republican has been known to demand, “You kids get the hell off my lawn” and famously challenged Barack Obama to a shot-drinking contest during their second presidential debate in 2008."
"“The only rule will be, no hair pulling,” McCain said. “I’ve lost most of my hair and if I pulled on that bastard’s (Trump) hair, I’m afraid it would unravel and I’d be left holding a five-food strand of orange cotton candy…of course, I might be able to use it to strangle him. How great would that be?”
This isn’t the first time McCain has shown flashes of his legendary temper. On several occasions, the Arizona Republican has been known to demand, “You kids get the hell off my lawn” and famously challenged Barack Obama to a shot-drinking contest during their second presidential debate in 2008."
23 July 2015 20:04
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce W Clark's post.
true that,
at least he got smart wife and saved money, did not fax it
at least he got smart wife and saved money, did not fax it
23 July 2015 20:00
Margus Meigo replied to Bruce W Clark's comment.
hahha,
that might be true,
But outcome of pot deepness can be hardly compared
that might be true,
But outcome of pot deepness can be hardly compared
23 July 2015 19:58
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce W Clark's post.
difference between pot and beer
23 July 2015 18:10
Margus Meigo commented on Leili Alaveer's post.
Group: Happy people ♥
Väga tõsi!23 July 2015 17:29
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Pärk's post.
Group: Happy people ♥
Helve Mehilane: teist last veel : )23 July 2015 17:28
Margus Meigo commented on Yvonne Gibson-Serrette's post.
Group: Vegan Humor Ⓥ
hahahahhahahah xD True that23 July 2015 17:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://youtu.be/rUUTVhHQ_8s?t=217
https://youtu.be/rUUTVhHQ_8s?t=217
23 July 2015 16:30
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
devil got many millions of wife's for a time... this is from where the power comes
23 July 2015 14:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja see on tunduvalt ohutum kui need Suured kes otseselt massiliselt meie liigi ja genofondi, meelte ja rahvapärandi solkimisega tegelevad
(mul teatud pätte meeldib kaitsta vahest, sest neid inimesi maha teha on liialt lihtne ja propakandistlik tihtipeale)
(mul teatud pätte meeldib kaitsta vahest, sest neid inimesi maha teha on liialt lihtne ja propakandistlik tihtipeale)
23 July 2015 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek J's post.
Kuid noh, nad midagi hullu ei teinud, neil piisavalt musklit ja isiksust, et see lugu nagu pigem neid promovaks saab mille najal neil hea muiates õlle võtta.
Kui nad päris narkar pätid oleks tahtnud olla (olnud), siis nad oleks päriselt varastanud, nad aga võtsid endale natukene, käepärast mis nad arvasid endale kuuluvat ja mis ei tee suurt kahju. Sest nad on piisavalt isad.
On teatud teadvuse või jõmmi tase, mis sellised "vembud" suht olematuks teeb.
Sest mõni meelte seisund registreerib seda "nu ma nii isa, ma ei pea ootama jääma kui teenindaja on pudu, võtan ise sis ja maksan hiljem, kui meelde tuleb"
Kui nad päris narkar pätid oleks tahtnud olla (olnud), siis nad oleks päriselt varastanud, nad aga võtsid endale natukene, käepärast mis nad arvasid endale kuuluvat ja mis ei tee suurt kahju. Sest nad on piisavalt isad.
On teatud teadvuse või jõmmi tase, mis sellised "vembud" suht olematuks teeb.
Sest mõni meelte seisund registreerib seda "nu ma nii isa, ma ei pea ootama jääma kui teenindaja on pudu, võtan ise sis ja maksan hiljem, kui meelde tuleb"
23 July 2015 14:20
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
pätiõigustusteks veel:
NU jah, rikkugu mis iganes seadusi, senikaua kui piibliseaduste vastu ei astu :p, või pigem senikaua kui "armasta" seadust endas kannab.
Kui astub üle seaduse mis Hingele saab kahjuks olla, siis omagu täit vastutust ja arusaama mis Suures plaanis see kaasa tuua võib.
Muidugi ka tuleb varastades aksepteerida ja austada vara omaniku reageeringut Ja ka Seadust ennast, siis pole hilisemat virisemist. Jääb asi respecti tasemele.
Ühesõnaga ärgu inimhinge kallale mingu, rakendagu kasvõi oma muskli, sõna hirmu jõudu kui usutakse selle põhjal elavat, kuid säilitagu eneseväärikus. Siis ma austan teda ikkagi.
....kui pätil eneseväärikus puutub, siis pole temaga millestki rääkida. Psüholoogilisest abist vast aint.
---
Ma isegi (just) selliseid tempe teinud, mitte küll haiglas. Ning mitte omades muskleid.
Vahest on meelte treenimiseks kasulik midagi taolist teha.
kui selline temp südame puperdama võtab siis veel pole kehas rahu ja on hetkeline arusaama puudus mingis osas, mingi kartus veel alles.
NU jah, rikkugu mis iganes seadusi, senikaua kui piibliseaduste vastu ei astu :p, või pigem senikaua kui "armasta" seadust endas kannab.
Kui astub üle seaduse mis Hingele saab kahjuks olla, siis omagu täit vastutust ja arusaama mis Suures plaanis see kaasa tuua võib.
Muidugi ka tuleb varastades aksepteerida ja austada vara omaniku reageeringut Ja ka Seadust ennast, siis pole hilisemat virisemist. Jääb asi respecti tasemele.
Ühesõnaga ärgu inimhinge kallale mingu, rakendagu kasvõi oma muskli, sõna hirmu jõudu kui usutakse selle põhjal elavat, kuid säilitagu eneseväärikus. Siis ma austan teda ikkagi.
....kui pätil eneseväärikus puutub, siis pole temaga millestki rääkida. Psüholoogilisest abist vast aint.
---
Ma isegi (just) selliseid tempe teinud, mitte küll haiglas. Ning mitte omades muskleid.
Vahest on meelte treenimiseks kasulik midagi taolist teha.
kui selline temp südame puperdama võtab siis veel pole kehas rahu ja on hetkeline arusaama puudus mingis osas, mingi kartus veel alles.
23 July 2015 14:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
aumehed ikkagi ( :p )
23 July 2015 14:18
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Nu ega me siis ei saa sedasi takerduda, et mis on "seaduslik" ja "ühiskonnakorraldus" .. senikaua kui seadus ja korraldus pole ideaalne siis tuleb ka välitda selle täielikku järgimist kui tahame paremaks areneda.
LIskas tuleb arvestada, et suur osa seadusi ja korraldusi on suurimate pättide enda tehtud, juhendatud ja nende kaitseks rakendatud.
LIskas tuleb arvestada, et suur osa seadusi ja korraldusi on suurimate pättide enda tehtud, juhendatud ja nende kaitseks rakendatud.
23 July 2015 14:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
või teed avaliku WiFi kaamera millesse saavad kes iganes sisse oma läptopiga tuunida ja otse vide ofeedi omale salvestada, kes siis selle video levikut takitstada saab?
23 July 2015 13:58
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
oota aga mul saab olla valvekaamera, mis ju otse Google Videosse videosi reaal ajas ülesse laeb
23 July 2015 13:56
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek J's post.
Mis moodi ei ole seaduslik AVALIKULT vesteldud vestlusi AVALIKU kaamera ees, AVALIKUS kohas... avalikusele edasi kanda...
eriti kui veel tegu vajaliku jagamisega, et saaksime tundma õppida SELLISEID meeli
eriti kui veel tegu vajaliku jagamisega, et saaksime tundma õppida SELLISEID meeli
23 July 2015 13:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
and really, who in the right mind, would want to hack attack SourceForge?
These people need psychiatric evaluation not punishment...
hacking places like sourceForge people must be sick in the head.
Something Ya should protect ya hack attack ? Poo!
These people need psychiatric evaluation not punishment...
hacking places like sourceForge people must be sick in the head.
Something Ya should protect ya hack attack ? Poo!
18 July 2015 15:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
17 July 2015 15:47
Margus Meigo commented on Nur Natasya's post.
oh, for some reason i thought this nice guy is Jewish, Hebrew : )
17 July 2015 15:10
Margus Meigo replied to Henry Westons's comment.
xD
16 July 2015 18:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Viimane kord sai elatud ühiskondlikult umbes siis: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1987728887436&set=t.1135161043&type=3&theater
Kuid jah, viimased paar aastat kohe kindlasti olnud kasimise vaba, ja üllatus üllatus, SELLEST EI JUHTUNUD SUURT MIDAGI (juuksed on terved, ja hambad pigem tervemad)
Kuid jah, viimased paar aastat kohe kindlasti olnud kasimise vaba, ja üllatus üllatus, SELLEST EI JUHTUNUD SUURT MIDAGI (juuksed on terved, ja hambad pigem tervemad)
16 July 2015 14:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tõesti, Tõesti.... kes oleks võinud arvata, et on võimalik hamba pesu ja juuste kammimise kohta tekitada REAALSE väärtusega potsitus, väärt jagamist Seinal (või õigemini, väärt salvestamist ajalukku).
Kuid pole muret, habet ja karvu ikka kunagi lõigata pole plaanis (kui, siis kogu keha kiilaks kunagi, peale väga suurt hingepuhastust)
Kuid pole muret, habet ja karvu ikka kunagi lõigata pole plaanis (kui, siis kogu keha kiilaks kunagi, peale väga suurt hingepuhastust)
16 July 2015 14:45
Margus Meigo replied to Allar Kaljundi's comment.
Kindlasti on
14 July 2015 23:06
Margus Meigo replied to Henry Westons's comment.
10g d :p
13 July 2015 23:17
Margus Meigo commented on John Turmel's post.
to much
13 July 2015 13:59
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
Actually, rather the main question is in here dear peoples of America nation,
to stay on topics: is there Must be a stribes OR stars on the boobs.
Important things first, then National pride and all the "is it apropriate or cult sicks to wear obama face on our body" type of theoretical questons about morals
seriously, i have sen some people wear other people face on their T shirt, thats really really weird, to start to think about it.
to stay on topics: is there Must be a stribes OR stars on the boobs.
Important things first, then National pride and all the "is it apropriate or cult sicks to wear obama face on our body" type of theoretical questons about morals
seriously, i have sen some people wear other people face on their T shirt, thats really really weird, to start to think about it.
13 July 2015 13:51
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
Lol, in UK people show "oo boy..i was acting with coppers like cunt fucker and they give me a bruses, what a unjustice in this world, gotta fight the bastards!"
.. in other countries people can show their dead family pictures or tour in city that has been bombed to a ground and say "We was standing for our country..." or.... "we was on their way...."
.. in other countries people can show their dead family pictures or tour in city that has been bombed to a ground and say "We was standing for our country..." or.... "we was on their way...."
13 July 2015 13:45
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
miks ma siis ei pissiks oma õemehe ampstri peale :D
12 July 2015 07:23
Margus Meigo replied to Margit Siniorg's comment.
http://human.hol.es/pildid_pictures/tuvi/ForeverY/Luigele_21%20%20%20DSC_4565.jpg
http://human.hol.es/pildid_pictures/tuvi/ForeverY/Luigele_21%20%20%20DSC_4565.jpg
11 July 2015 12:03
Margus Meigo replied to Margit Siniorg's comment.
Tuvi
Kuid see kirjatuvi, lendab asja pärast
Kuid see kirjatuvi, lendab asja pärast
11 July 2015 12:02
Margus Meigo commented on Margit Siniorg's post.
See meelega sus norimine oli, häärumine konnasilma pihta, et märkaks kus see un, : ))
Parimat Parimat, ... lään uurin seda kägu asja siis siin vahepeal . )
Parimat Parimat, ... lään uurin seda kägu asja siis siin vahepeal . )
11 July 2015 12:00
Margus Meigo commented on Margit Siniorg's post.
" Sinu tulemus: Valgustunud kristlus
Sa sarnaned kõige rohkem kristlusele, selle headele põhimõtetele. Sa oled (või proovid olla) läbinisti hea inimene. Sa ei sea kunagi esikohale oma tähtsust ja tahtmisi, oled pigem leebe ja tagasihoidlik. Oled loomult andestav. Isegi siis, kui sind koheldakse halvasti, ei hakka sa plaanima kättemaksu, vaid üritad andestada. Tegelikult näitab see sinu sisemist tugevust, kuigi teistele võib tunduda vastupidi. Sa arvad, et elu kannatused on õppetunnid, millest tuleb maksimaalselt õppida. "
https://www.testronaut.com/testimages/photos/kristlus-suur-est.151.4.jpg
Sa sarnaned kõige rohkem kristlusele, selle headele põhimõtetele. Sa oled (või proovid olla) läbinisti hea inimene. Sa ei sea kunagi esikohale oma tähtsust ja tahtmisi, oled pigem leebe ja tagasihoidlik. Oled loomult andestav. Isegi siis, kui sind koheldakse halvasti, ei hakka sa plaanima kättemaksu, vaid üritad andestada. Tegelikult näitab see sinu sisemist tugevust, kuigi teistele võib tunduda vastupidi. Sa arvad, et elu kannatused on õppetunnid, millest tuleb maksimaalselt õppida. "
https://www.testronaut.com/testimages/photos/kristlus-suur-est.151.4.jpg
https://www.testronaut.com/testimages/photos/kristlus-suur-est.151.4.jpg
11 July 2015 11:57
Margus Meigo commented on Margit Siniorg's post.
Tegelikult õige ON: "TEE teistele seda mida tahad, et Sulle (ja teistele) tehakse" ...Selles probleem ongi, et satanismil on arusaama retardation kuidas asjad toimima peaks, keeravad asjad peapeale mis juba ammu selged ja õiged on
sest see kena lause keeratakse "ära tee teistele seda..."
ehk siis võtab vastustuse ära, teeb inimesed pehmeks orjaks, vastutuse vabaks pasiivseks paha kummardajaks,kus usutakse, et "eks iga üks ise teab...." ja "igal ühel ise enda valik..." ja veel see põhiline et "MINA ise tean.... "
yeah,
naised eemaldatakse ära matriaarhiast, kusnad koos on Jumaluse keha kõikvõimsus..erladtakse neid üksikuks osaks kus nadteineteise vastu nullivalt ära keeratkse või vastandatakse... ja siis Greeka-Rooma-Viikingid juhivad edasi... seni kuni Naine pole mõistnud, et neamd ongi ELU tarkus... koos.
sest see kena lause keeratakse "ära tee teistele seda..."
ehk siis võtab vastustuse ära, teeb inimesed pehmeks orjaks, vastutuse vabaks pasiivseks paha kummardajaks,kus usutakse, et "eks iga üks ise teab...." ja "igal ühel ise enda valik..." ja veel see põhiline et "MINA ise tean.... "
yeah,
naised eemaldatakse ära matriaarhiast, kusnad koos on Jumaluse keha kõikvõimsus..erladtakse neid üksikuks osaks kus nadteineteise vastu nullivalt ära keeratkse või vastandatakse... ja siis Greeka-Rooma-Viikingid juhivad edasi... seni kuni Naine pole mõistnud, et neamd ongi ELU tarkus... koos.
11 July 2015 11:51
Margus Meigo commented on Marc OM's post.
Group: UK Libertarian Discussion Group
as long it is not a communist (direction) we safe11 July 2015 11:44
Margus Meigo commented on Jack Hayward's post.
Group: UK Libertarian Discussion Group
yeah,
that would be like 17 dollars, in last half a year for me11 July 2015 11:42
Margus Meigo commented on Ian Lelen's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
Also.. there is difference between BBC and CNN..
it is revolutionary, that CNN has been able to do that, on days when people get life time prison for sharing proper LSD
(bdw, there is weekly free samples available from dark and onion web...)11 July 2015 11:41
Margus Meigo commented on Ian Lelen's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
About the article (this has been up to now my favorite CNN story before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7yKpvBQhTw )
But the Greek thing.. we gotta keep in mind, Greek-Roman global domination is the structure that has keep us away from magic plants, magic thinking and magic powers From the nature and from the women, ...Hebrews know all about that .. and shamans, ancient Natives and Ancient Estonians .. all that parallel world and human makings are no new.
Well, my view anyway, up to point when finding proper words, ... but just keep in mind that pentagram is on big part of money, software and flags, posters. Keep in mind what logo is Russian state seal..why is it..where is other head of the Eagle? .. yeah.. so
when comes to "who keeps magic, god realization in us away from us.." then look at these who act like anti to religion ... who keep matriarchy suppressed?
Neeh, ... jews are matriarchy ... actually, bible is matriarchy (Proverbs 8:30 ...).. sanskritters knows the deal.
So ya, step by step, we WILL turn this Greek programming system where in we are, in to Enlightening camp, why to tear down if we can use something for good.
add all questions to my mailbox or here some, as this data is packed, packed with truthhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7yKpvBQhTw
11 July 2015 11:39
Margus Meigo commented on Pisike Pisike's post.
Group: Tutvus
Veider pildi valik jep, kuid ilus inimene.. ise valib.. kuigi noh, soovitaks ikka leida ju sõbrannasi sõpru kes seda selfit paremas keskonnas teha saab (lihtsalt mehe mõistuses vetsus tehtud pilt on väga ebasündsa tähendusega liidetud)11 July 2015 11:22
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Vello Ennist's post.
ebareaalse ülbusega vennad :D
10 July 2015 23:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
or if there is no original thought, then some acyent names u learning from and alive ones u support and why, so we can tune on level.
OT bible, lao tse, alan watts, macenna and magic mushrooms from my side, as they honest
OT bible, lao tse, alan watts, macenna and magic mushrooms from my side, as they honest
7 July 2015 20:21
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
but in otherhand is interesting to know people way abowe tom inntell as u say girl, can u provide their names and more then that, the original thoughts and udeas, actions of ur grew, lets get interacted
7 July 2015 20:15
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
yeah, Tom got friendš in many levels.
but your usage of words is rather pleasent.
Greetings from Aristokracy side {we see title: intellectual as an insult}
ps: Tom is rather smart when sober or on weed, so take time to know him, and many can learn a lot. also a lot practical and things to be awere, like that UK gov and Occupy is inflatrated by Communist ideology long before agents. the largest totalitarian forces are main global Antifa and anti gov promotion makers, in last 100 years. once we see why we can have hope to grow real Nature like Rojal Religios order of self govermence based on real Hallotsonigenics experience, that is alive. well actually blame me on that view, but Tom knows loads of readings from many corners and original thinking, that is so another level at times that requires longer calm real life talks to start to get the royal like Largenes and radical pureness of it.
but your usage of words is rather pleasent.
Greetings from Aristokracy side {we see title: intellectual as an insult}
ps: Tom is rather smart when sober or on weed, so take time to know him, and many can learn a lot. also a lot practical and things to be awere, like that UK gov and Occupy is inflatrated by Communist ideology long before agents. the largest totalitarian forces are main global Antifa and anti gov promotion makers, in last 100 years. once we see why we can have hope to grow real Nature like Rojal Religios order of self govermence based on real Hallotsonigenics experience, that is alive. well actually blame me on that view, but Tom knows loads of readings from many corners and original thinking, that is so another level at times that requires longer calm real life talks to start to get the royal like Largenes and radical pureness of it.
7 July 2015 20:11
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
God ... can be , what our business. if is, then needed for a moment... wa talkingabout all possible one after all
5 July 2015 22:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
joudsin juhtimisel hoopis tallinna, nii et kui keegi siit näha soovib5 July 2015 22:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Tutvus
mul on reit ka xD
(Y)5 July 2015 17:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Tutvus
Saatke oma hippi ja feministidest sõbranadele kuulutus edasi :p5 July 2015 17:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Tutvus
Oih, telefon ka: 56740049
Et siis Rapla - Lelle kandis täna. Muidu suht kuuse all magan, magamiskott ikka kaasas enda oma . )5 July 2015 17:08
Margus Meigo replied to Stan Everett's comment.
U softy with ur pussy all the time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLNQxlQZfv4
"Louis CK - Suck a Bag of Dicks"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLNQxlQZfv4
"Louis CK - Suck a Bag of Dicks"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLNQxlQZfv4
5 July 2015 14:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Mitte siis GPSi kordinaate, mul see aparaat ilma netita ei näita neid asju, et ikka aadressi-valla mõttes : )
Ma ise välja helistada ei saa5 July 2015 14:29
Margus Meigo replied to Stan Everett's comment.
Cunt is good right?
As word "cunt" symbolizes the best of the best in universe that is for humans, that's where direct experience with a God is, in a cunt as well. And that's where you come out, from cunt. Thatch what You dream about to have near You if ya are a real man, a one proper cunt.
So i cant REALLY see a point to call cop a cunt unless You really in love with a dude, and hey, and Cant say that there is Not something wrong with it if Ya see cunts where is coppers... but as long this love is soft core, well, then we can let it be
As word "cunt" symbolizes the best of the best in universe that is for humans, that's where direct experience with a God is, in a cunt as well. And that's where you come out, from cunt. Thatch what You dream about to have near You if ya are a real man, a one proper cunt.
So i cant REALLY see a point to call cop a cunt unless You really in love with a dude, and hey, and Cant say that there is Not something wrong with it if Ya see cunts where is coppers... but as long this love is soft core, well, then we can let it be
5 July 2015 14:06
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Smith's post.
Greece is like "How can they talk about ejecting us from EU ... we made up all that Roman show..."
don't they know that?
O boy.. that situation sucks. "
don't they know that?
O boy.. that situation sucks. "
5 July 2015 07:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Inimestele antakse saan jah aru.. Tallinna TVs, siis ajaruumi kui ta selgitab probleemide kirjeldusi, senikaua kui ei anta otseseid põhjuseid ja õigeid ravimeid.
Kuid eks ma vaata muu meelega otsast peale läbi uuel korral. Siis juba koos taimedega ja vaatab mida siis meeled ja süda räägib, kas nii targa mehe kohta on see piisav või oli see peaaegu nagu enesekultus5 July 2015 07:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Sobib Mai, sobib.
Kuid minu jaoks on kõigil augud kes tänapäeval pole teada avalikult andnud (kellel anti eetriaega), et tema on ausalt Taimede poolel, ehk Elu, ehk Jumala poolel OTSESELT,
ehk mainides midagi sellist millega ÜKSKÕIK mis võimu aeg, saab kes iganes endale teha südamepuhastust ja paha vaimu välja ajamist või kurja silma eest kaitset või .... ajas liikumisi oma silmaga näha
Olgu ta pime, kurt või kirjaoskamatu.5 July 2015 07:14
Margus Meigo commented on Einar Laigna's link.
Ma pole päris kindel, ma tajun mis on selle lause "euroopa kultuur" tähendus, mis on selle seos Eestiga.. kas see päriselt olemas või see mingi laenatud osadega teesklus?
Kuid ma loodan varsti selles noodis inimestega edasi rääkida
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN-vMMpja30
Kuid ma loodan varsti selles noodis inimestega edasi rääkida
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN-vMMpja30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN-vMMpja30
4 July 2015 20:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
"Mart Raukase filmis «Parreesia» räägib vaimulik ja ohvitser Einar Laigna tõest ja valest, Eesti ja maailma asjadest otsekoheselt ning ..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgTYAPfeAcI
Kuid noh, jäi veel paar astet puudu, sest tal seda infot ei ole mis meil on... meil kui neil kes minu silmis teadjad : )
Sest näeme isegi temas auke, lihtsalt.
Kuid ta üks kelle käe all sooviks elu tunda ja õppida kindlasti.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgTYAPfeAcI
4 July 2015 20:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Sellel järelvaatamine ka netist4 July 2015 16:55
Margus Meigo replied to Mark Mcphillips's comment.
Eat magic mushrooms
(Mushrooms Help with toxicity)
(Mushrooms Help with toxicity)
4 July 2015 00:35
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
Eat magic mushrooms
hundreds
hundreds
4 July 2015 00:31
Margus Meigo replied to Mihkel VS's comment.
see öine temperatuur, siis peab teki peale tõmbama juba
oot mis linn see ongi nts?
oot mis linn see ongi nts?
3 July 2015 18:37
Margus Meigo replied to Indrek Saviir's comment.
nu jah, siis pole vilu vähemalt,
3 July 2015 17:59
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Dorsett's post.
Group: UK Libertarian Discussion Group
hallucinogenic medicines should be near mandatory for majority of public, and at least once before teens for everyone like vaccination.
As it is in a way, spiritual vaccination for life time,
There is yes, better old ways . but for now, lets use State for that benefit we can, as long this tool is given to us, to get our slavery rights back from Greece-ROmans and NOmans, who help to keep this illusion up with magic and Nighsade plants (like potato and tobacco)... for starters3 July 2015 14:57
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Dorsett's post.
Group: UK Libertarian Discussion Group
People should be always really clear about their ideas and sides, and world view so there is less room to play around, and we can know (not assume) who sees world in what way and how, so we know how and what medicine to provide to get minds right (even our own, if needed so)3 July 2015 14:52
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Dorsett's post.
Group: UK Libertarian Discussion Group
So Steve am take You not agree with him, so do You support that people must be provided free medicine and health care even if they are anti-statest smokers and drink alcohol and like to watch wasteful TV and not benefiting country in no other way that just was needed for hes own paycheck by working for who ever pays in whatever job ?3 July 2015 14:50
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Dorsett's post.
Group: UK Libertarian Discussion Group
hard to read that one but will leave it here for now :p3 July 2015 12:38
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Dorsett's post.
Group: UK Libertarian Discussion Group
Also making your brain to think that (a+b) + c ´equals to (c+b)+a ruins human brain intelligence, as nature does not work like Math like that, even humans do not.
But mathematicians who try to run this world (most of then calculating value in money) ..they are dangerously not smart in some most common important arias.
But humans are trained to slave these ones who are on smarter in things that they them self give you part by part, to have advantage, always
intellectual superiority in one made up category that chooses to eliminate others or just ignore the Hebrew or Natural world view, or at least make it sound to mind slaves, as these things are ignored (but actually people are tricked to fooled to step on to real values.. so they will end up not knowing their roots, their values or where they come and where they should go, why and what to do on earth... most simple basic questions anyone, human should know... not an order, but just ordinary )3 July 2015 12:37
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Dorsett's post.
Group: UK Libertarian Discussion Group
I am from other world, what the "FFS" means, you agree with it fully or reticulated it ironically ?
Sorry for jumping in, just kind of loads of contacts and not sure am remember Your political background.
My self thing we should be forsed on to learn healthcare and herbal healing in early childhood already, and we should be explained what the cigarettes and alcohol is and how badly and why the some soap operas, and how bad nearly entire Fex Crime type of channels are for our brain, how and for what to use computers and how to find help from people BEFORE state.
What to eat, why and when.
We can EASILY remove half of math, and 25% or more of many other classes that are over emphasized as "urgent.".
This would cut health care problem nearly more then 80%+
Probably more, just near impossible to calculate full impact.
They should calculate how much are average medical bills for 10000 religious vegetarian herbalists compared to other social groups and then is easy to see where is the problem.
(looking from alien invasion point of view that has lasted thousands of years, easy to see what groups are on the top elimination list by De-education as well)3 July 2015 12:31
Margus Meigo commented on Charles Drummond Malcolm Fraser's post.
This is so on spot, well made, had to make screener of it :p
3 July 2015 12:18
Margus Meigo commented on Ben 'hey' Wass's post.
Hahaha :D
Good one!
Good one!
3 July 2015 12:18
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiine Mäss's post.
CouchSurfingu s ka toimetad?
3 July 2015 12:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiine Mäss's post.
I can vouch for Her She is awesome :p
3 July 2015 12:13
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Is that a message to ur boss,
must be careful, screening workers walls is normal routine task for companies to discover inside threats :p
must be careful, screening workers walls is normal routine task for companies to discover inside threats :p
3 July 2015 11:07
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek Saviir's photo.
Meilsiin jah, õhuniiskus 57% ja 23 midagi ning meeletu jura käib, et "hingata pole midagi" ja kõik on nii kuiv xD
(suur vihma periood oli alles nädal tagasi, vannid veel poolenisti vett täis)
(suur vihma periood oli alles nädal tagasi, vannid veel poolenisti vett täis)
3 July 2015 10:41
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
Marylin would be interesting as well, how woulds she be now... some gov documentary would be nice
3 July 2015 10:39
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
Bruce Lee
3 July 2015 10:39
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Just write down anyone ya know and make special notes about these who are meeting with special outsiders time by time
3 July 2015 10:38
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Teades, et see intsu survepesur on tankide roomokite puhastamiseks siis keera kindlasti paar kraadi väiksemaks muidu pühid aknaraamid ka eest ära :D
3 July 2015 10:37
Margus Meigo commented on Tauno Krull's post.
Head asjad pole kunagi vanad, 20 aasta pärast avastad :p
3 July 2015 10:35
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
Greetings to jack
3 July 2015 10:33
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
First when i saw in news the anal part i thought it was a bad joke
3 July 2015 10:32
Margus Meigo replied to Marge Karin's comment.
Alfa Romio, see punane millel sul veel mingi äge pilt oli kapotil, mingi suht omapärase välimusega oli
2 July 2015 11:10
Margus Meigo replied to Marge Karin's comment.
Siis timm, mul Su roomio meeldis ikka pea kõige rohkem , välimuselt, maazda mugavuselt ja 700 ne bemm lennult
nu a-rühma shevi oli oma nelajlt veolt ja baari kapilt ka vast hea, mitte, et ma to aeg baarikappidest midagi teadnud oleks
nu a-rühma shevi oli oma nelajlt veolt ja baari kapilt ka vast hea, mitte, et ma to aeg baarikappidest midagi teadnud oleks
2 July 2015 11:08
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's link.
Su karjööri hulka käib ka ajasreisimine ja muu mateeria muutmis kosmos nagu näha,
Nice sister, punapeadelt vähem ei loodakski,
Ferru on ikka punane eks?
Skooda jätad lapsele, öeldes "saa nii vanakssiis tead ... "
Nice sister, punapeadelt vähem ei loodakski,
Ferru on ikka punane eks?
Skooda jätad lapsele, öeldes "saa nii vanakssiis tead ... "
2 July 2015 10:29
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's link.
Loodan, et meeldiv
2 July 2015 10:27
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Smith's post.
Group: One Community: For The Highest Good of All
Why would You want to redistribute their wealth, perhaps they want to give portion of it to me so am can do with it and invest it better ways or maybe they want to keep it, based on what (serious question) you will tell them that this money earned is not allowed to be used by them ? I know am got some ideas for it but..2 July 2015 07:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
later leading
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/05/01/how-u-s-billionaire-sheldon-adelson-is-buying-up-israels-media/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/05/01/how-u-s-billionaire-sheldon-adelson-is-buying-up-israels-media/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/05/01/how-u-s-billionaire-sheldon-adelson-is-buying-up-israels-media/
2 July 2015 03:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Only WAY
(sorry for going Almost out of Groups topic focus)1 July 2015 16:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Only WAY
Also want to add, when we listen other country music.. try to find up something that is less generic.. and something more spiritual or deeper always... as all people we know are addictive personalty to these things they like to be or do.. and if You are loving You like a lot.. so make sure to first make effort to find something more then that what everyone knows
Even if that sounds weird, like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCokZFdrnBo
Try to feel.. if we understand what they meant on that song.. pop songs are pop.. to easy to tune in... and to energetic sometimes to relax.. or travel in mind... to little instruments...
Bible same way, we can find so many extra versions in there.. by looking parallel meanings that people long time ago belied, believe and what can benefit
Also our own folk music roots, should be knownhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCokZFdrnBo
1 July 2015 16:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Only WAY
Really good website to keep near bible study (and just for study)
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Blessings/blessings.html
and the words:
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Glossary/Yiddish_Words/yiddish_words.html
(difference between Ha-NoTSRi, Ha-Nazari, ...and Mandaeans .. and..)
Really important to read, if You truly believe and have mind or heart or time... also good for making even more deeper quizes that makes people to go in to religion, more then many of our priests have cared to, or seen need to.
But You are still here, He opened Your eyes so You can help Your priest with a word or two and some other person helps with some other words on day when needed... and word by word.. our priests will get also deeper connected to something new, to something timeless and holy from their grandfathers, Kings times, .. connecting smarts and wizards around the world just as bit as needed, ....to be secure, that we know hat to respect, (when) more
All the other talk is just for mind expansion, to search see answers, to go with it, but then, come back to the question again..
what changes in Your heart We should do in world.. as if You not choose to make "deny" and "allow" of things, of change.. then this is almost like say "allow" to all equally.... but this can only be when ALL the good will be known that can be allowed.. (up to then we have to help to REGULATE, things from smoking to proper drug usage, and digital drug usage as TV, games and internet, have to be guided also) then can we overpower current long standing enslavement of human races .. and become in heart as needed for God
(as many people are forced to make money to get food but actually, we should have teachings of Land, to get food, and teachings of other arts.. to provide these the food who give as pleasurable music when we work)http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Blessings/blessings.html
1 July 2015 15:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Only WAY
Just in case here is the book talked about, also comparison another versions, as some versions that bibles are based on ending with 18, mine is up to 24 in Malachi
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Malachi%203&version=CJB;OJB
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Malachi%204&version=NLV;OJB
Here You can see, that what is 4:6 in one book is 3:24 in another version of bible. There is few instances like that, will try to find words for that why it was needed.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Malachi%204&version=NLV;OJB
King James version is OK, but this version always should be compared from some word softening versions with another translation, or directly with Jewish versions (as they use real words like "Eliyahu HaNavi", "Hashem Tzva’os" ... and then we can look up the parts of these words, to see if there is even wikipedia article about it )
Like:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Judaism#HaShem
It is interesting, as it is important to know why and how good choose THEIR language as first, and biggest, from where Bible come from. Always we must remeber that, and newer repeat same mistakes that small portion did.https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Malachi+3&version=CJB%3BOJB
1 July 2015 15:01
Margus Meigo commented on Christian Enriquez's post.
Group: Only WAY
True True1 July 2015 13:55
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
Sama värvi kui armastus
30 June 2015 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on Risto Viitasaari's post.
so is that good?
30 June 2015 22:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Punk pole punane
https://hotkommunist.wordpress.com/eesti/https://hotkommunist.wordpress.com/eesti/
30 June 2015 21:27
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
dog is nice, like half smokey
29 June 2015 08:59
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
is that like "ohh.. these five stars come all around my dog... "
29 June 2015 08:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
This is where the magic is Angelica
27 June 2015 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Aga kui läjeb, siis läheb nii kuidas vaja, lihtsalt oleks hea soov, ku isaaks oma õnne rohkemate inimestega jagada, saades ka praktilisi ühendamisi27 June 2015 18:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Usu vajalikuse osas saan aru, kuid ise natukene alkohoolse katuse all ööbin, pole suutnud veel oma kätega sellest inimesi loobuma kuigi rohtusiselleks tea... ja siis minu maailma tunnetus on nagu vaevaks ja pinnuks silmas siinsetel ka. Seega mul vaja edasi liikuda, kuid muretsen rohkem asjade kui enda pärast.
(kuigi tean, et vist peaks vastupidi)27 June 2015 18:18
Margus Meigo commented on Siiri Nurk's photo.
Tublid Tublid ! : ))) Õnne teil juba sündis peresse juurde,et soovin siis kõike muud seda vajalikku mida tarvis lisaks!
27 June 2015 17:42
Margus Meigo commented on Siiri Nurk's photo.
Lükkab põka käima?
27 June 2015 17:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nature..oh.. they did that already
27 June 2015 13:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
plants
27 June 2015 13:14
Margus Meigo commented on Brian David Vaughan's photo.
Lol... looking these buildings just makes so sad... God give us all the imagination, sense of beauty and power to build anything... and we build THIS..
27 June 2015 11:57
Margus Meigo commented on Brian David Vaughan's post.
Spiders are holy :)
27 June 2015 11:53
Margus Meigo replied to Joyce Rheal's comment.
but they do stuff that a lot like, or they would not be on power right
26 June 2015 23:42
Margus Meigo replied to Joyce Rheal's comment.
did they care on Roman time ?
26 June 2015 23:29
Margus Meigo replied to Joyce Rheal's comment.
but how should it be then ?
26 June 2015 23:27
Margus Meigo replied to Joyce Rheal's comment.
gängstars do for MUCH smaller things (aims), WAY worst crime.. and we think, when HUGE corporations kill few people to direct public attention to some other place.. that this is some how dishonest... (no one asked us to be addicted to TV ...well, in a way they did ask but,.)
I mean, we should just respect their moves and do ours, i a way.. as mean time we feel emotional about one thing something else happens already..
well, and here i am, talking "We" and "Them" ..
I mean, we should just respect their moves and do ours, i a way.. as mean time we feel emotional about one thing something else happens already..
well, and here i am, talking "We" and "Them" ..
26 June 2015 23:19
Margus Meigo replied to Joyce Rheal's comment.
Why should they not to
26 June 2015 23:16
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's post.
Success, great, good!
26 June 2015 22:32
Margus Meigo commented on Kristi Ott's link.
Tundub, et kui nad ütlevad "kuulutame sõja" siis see tähendab "hakkame sellega raha teenima, rohkem"
Nagu War on Drugs... War on Terrorism.. vist hariduse ja võrdsuse osas oli neil ka miskid programmid sarnase nimega... veidrad inimesed. Teeksid nad nagu vastupidist vahest...
Näiteks keelatud meelte ainete osas suurem osa hippisi oskaks paremat nõu anda kui Valitsuse liikmed
Nagu War on Drugs... War on Terrorism.. vist hariduse ja võrdsuse osas oli neil ka miskid programmid sarnase nimega... veidrad inimesed. Teeksid nad nagu vastupidist vahest...
Näiteks keelatud meelte ainete osas suurem osa hippisi oskaks paremat nõu anda kui Valitsuse liikmed
23 June 2015 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
This is so bad i almost want to click on it to read more
23 June 2015 07:32
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's photo.
and when i meant 90s, i meant early 90s
23 June 2015 07:28
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's photo.
but to make it sound... like something new is known now.. to general public.. not really.. besides, does this guy only have one image?
OKey... so just telling you.. all that was planned... how complicated is to see that, easy to see
OKey... so just telling you.. all that was planned... how complicated is to see that, easy to see
23 June 2015 07:27
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's photo.
Really, people are buying this do they... i mean we know on 90s that NSA records all world phone calls and had keyword detection, this was kids knowledge, and besides.. now in internet they have listed many their tools and programs open to every one to see.. who can care to read, ... EU made law over 10 years ago, that everyone ALL digital communication have to be stored, ... and then he... He made us know that NSA is spying on us? Really...
And it is good, that NSA is doing it.. is there some proof to know that it is bad? Perhaps Nsa saves a world one day, by figuring out why and how people are unable to communicate proper... hey, am even give them a hand, and to Russia as well!
And it is good, that NSA is doing it.. is there some proof to know that it is bad? Perhaps Nsa saves a world one day, by figuring out why and how people are unable to communicate proper... hey, am even give them a hand, and to Russia as well!
23 June 2015 07:25
Margus Meigo commented on Kuido Merits's post.
Meie kohus oleks ka siis neid inimesi õpetada, lisaks neilt õppides, kuidas kohalike probleeme lahendada... oma julgeoleku punkte ka nendesse kolletesse paigutamine, et otselennul teada saaksime, kui keegi mingeid muid kahtlaseid lendlehti jagama hakkab sö
22 June 2015 16:52
Margus Meigo commented on Kuido Merits's post.
Ma mõtlesin, et lisaks taolisele filtrile, veel oleks vaja selekteerida välja enamuses tütarlapsed (nad ohutumad ja ei plaani talumehe põõsasse vedamist nii naljalt, heas mõttes) ning taimetoitlased ja kindlasti need kes pole suitsust ja alkoholist huvitatud. Sest need kaks tööriista millega punapisk hästi külge hakkab ning sügavamad kultuuri huvid kaovad.
Oma maa inimestelgi raskusi nende ainete juures tõsiselt vaimseks jääda...
Nu ja siis oleks hea, kui nad usklikud oleks, või usu meelsed, siis on kindel keel läbi mille räägikad.. saadame mõne eesti targema havemega mehe külasse moaali lugema aegajalt, selgitama, et peetrus saatis, ku ivaja... ja inimesed kasvavad heas usus ülesse, ning õpivad ka taimi uuesti harima... mis ka meil oma inimestel kipub ununema... ja naistel juured ikka koju kisuvad lõpuks.. eriti kui oma mehi eriti pole.. seega ka tagasisõidud kümnete aastate pärast oleks väga sagedad
Oma maa inimestelgi raskusi nende ainete juures tõsiselt vaimseks jääda...
Nu ja siis oleks hea, kui nad usklikud oleks, või usu meelsed, siis on kindel keel läbi mille räägikad.. saadame mõne eesti targema havemega mehe külasse moaali lugema aegajalt, selgitama, et peetrus saatis, ku ivaja... ja inimesed kasvavad heas usus ülesse, ning õpivad ka taimi uuesti harima... mis ka meil oma inimestel kipub ununema... ja naistel juured ikka koju kisuvad lõpuks.. eriti kui oma mehi eriti pole.. seega ka tagasisõidud kümnete aastate pärast oleks väga sagedad
22 June 2015 16:51
Margus Meigo commented on Kuido Merits's post.
Ei tegelt tühjad nad kindlasti ei oleks, samamoodi oleks täis, kuid siis juba paljuasjalikema põgenikega.
Kui sul on valida kas sõjaarmeede ja pättide poolt sund rasestamised, puuris kasvamine.... nu siis iga päästetee tundub hea, pealegi, külma ei oska karta need kes seda näinud pole (raha.. mis meie riigis saab raha ka või?)
Kuid jah.. suurema osa imelikke hoiaks eemal aga päris agente ikka sellega ei hirmuta, kes oma palgad mujalt saab, et siin tuleviku tarvis muid uksi avada
Kui sul on valida kas sõjaarmeede ja pättide poolt sund rasestamised, puuris kasvamine.... nu siis iga päästetee tundub hea, pealegi, külma ei oska karta need kes seda näinud pole (raha.. mis meie riigis saab raha ka või?)
Kuid jah.. suurema osa imelikke hoiaks eemal aga päris agente ikka sellega ei hirmuta, kes oma palgad mujalt saab, et siin tuleviku tarvis muid uksi avada
22 June 2015 16:46
Margus Meigo commented on Kuido Merits's post.
Kuid kui aus olla eks ma siis seda asja natuke mõelnud ka varem.. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1022535200378&set=a.1022531160277.2004191.1135161043&type=3&theater
22 June 2015 16:40
Margus Meigo commented on Kuido Merits's post.
22 June 2015 16:40
Margus Meigo commented on Kuido Merits's post.
Näe isegi nägemine läheb paremaks ajaga :p
22 June 2015 16:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Sci as scientific
22 June 2015 16:05
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
where was reds and yellows
20 June 2015 15:20
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
so no wonder.. these kind of Greek minds.. do not give even a shit about what REALLY happens to common people. .as they are not worth to even waste thought about... but only used for mass manipulation and power, in front row
For spiritual religious person, everyone counts as anyone can have revelation and end up to be high person next day (well.. trippin balls one day.. and next day open up Macindosh or Microsoft :D)
For spiritual religious person, everyone counts as anyone can have revelation and end up to be high person next day (well.. trippin balls one day.. and next day open up Macindosh or Microsoft :D)
20 June 2015 12:29
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
example:
Greek:
Competition, Forced Benafits
Hebrew:
Shared Volentary Help
while the Greek mind seeks the holiness of beauty.
The Hebrew mind thinks of the Beauty of holiness
but the Greek mind asks “Why must I do it?”
The Hebrew mind asks “What must I do?”,
Greek think: The body was only one passing phase of our cosmic existence. Only the soul was involved in the future, and only the soul could do any good, so what the body did was virtually irrelevant.
These were the educated class which were trained to live in shared houses, to eat in the same mess halls, their children were to be raised as a group in a common environment by special caretakers (public schools).
Hebrew: against public schooling as human is more diverce then one program and dispise living in shared houses as this leaves no room for a spirit and self (walk in naked in your yeard wit ha wife etc). They think important is what body is doing and this influences soul, throught wrong actions of body soul can damage and limit it self in to lower body. If body perform un needed things it is a sing of underdevelopment spiritually NOT a natural thing.
Greek think: One first begins with a premise and then sets down a system of steps to come to an ultimate conclusion.
Hebrew: The problem with this is that it still relied on human reasoning which was, of course, limited by human experience. (but greek try to say, that human experience is only walid excistance.. but this is actually dark side manipulation of humans, so humans in body of here can be controlled more easily when they live ignorantly)
The Greek Alexander: His strategy was for Greece to dominate the world by conforming the world to Greek thinking. He knew that this could only be accomplished by language. He knew, almost supernaturally, that if you change a people's language, you change their whole view of life.
In Hebrew: Language is holy, words deep and meaningful of alternative communication for better understanding Creation and what we must do here to be in tune wit hnature.
Again Greek thinking: Basically, Epicurus believed that humans should pursue pleasure. The best way to achieve this is to stay away from distasteful situations by congregating with friends and like minded people. One should avoid the everyday mundane existence of the common people. The gods take no notice of human affairs, so humans have no fear of them.
Hebrew: think humans should pursuie understanding the God and self, Nature and pleasure is just a tool at times for healing and accessing another states of knowledge. But pleasure is newer the aim as peson can live in pleasure easily if has proper life that is free from slavery.
In GreeK: Stoics, Zeno of Citium. They believed that fate was responsible for everything that happened, basically denying free will. Stoics believed in shunning all emotion, which is how our culture uses that term.
Hebrew: we have free will do access any state of consicuness when practise our pure mind and body proper way. But access only for the benafit of God (eg. Nature, Humans..)
In Greek: According to the Greeks, the gods were constantly changing, and were unconcerned with the mundane affairs of man.
In Hebrew: In Hebrew thought, however, YHWH never changes. He is immutable and is not like man, This is one of the most important attributes of 'Elohiym, and it cannot be separated from scriptural faith
(as the human evolution time is so short, it is illogical to think, that real gods in this short time would change of their plans and self... this is whole point of God to know how to be, ... help of special plants in nature can always help us to remind what is and how, also the Word the plants will make clear)
Greek: think life in their view was seen as linear. Time was an endless point in the past and continued to an endless point in the future.
Hebrew: The 'Elohiym of scriptural thought is cyclical not linear.
Greek:
To the western mind, worshipping is an event and not part of the daily Greek lifestyle. When the event was over both the worshipers and the worshipped were pleased and content.
The Greek tends to separate worship from service, which is the background in Hebrew thought, to understanding worship.
(rituals just for sake of fooling common people etc)
They also think: Denying ones self was very spiritual, because the physical was evil.
and
The sooner one entered the heavenlies the better. This is why suicide was a very noble thing in Greek thinking.
Hebrew: Worship was intimately tied to work or service. Service to 'Elohiym was not seen as secular and worship as religious or spiritual, but rather they were the same act.
Because everything is seen as theological to the Jew. When a man goes to his job, he is going to worship and serve YHVH. He is worshipping YHVH when he tends to his wife's needs. He does not separate out ordinary daily activities from his religious duties, for they are one and the same.
in hebrew: To begin with, true spirituality is earthly and not otherworldly
To the Hebrew, man was placed upon the earth and given responsibilities to take care of the earth.
He is given instructions on how to take care of the body and how to love your neighbor. He is told how to plant crops and when not to plant crops
(and as we see, many people now has forget how to please a womenand plant a crops..)
Hebrew, To the scripturally spiritual man the other world is the reward, not the goal.
and:
To be spiritual was to be in this world, fully aware and fully focused on your part in all that you do
Greek:
Competition, Forced Benafits
Hebrew:
Shared Volentary Help
while the Greek mind seeks the holiness of beauty.
The Hebrew mind thinks of the Beauty of holiness
but the Greek mind asks “Why must I do it?”
The Hebrew mind asks “What must I do?”,
Greek think: The body was only one passing phase of our cosmic existence. Only the soul was involved in the future, and only the soul could do any good, so what the body did was virtually irrelevant.
These were the educated class which were trained to live in shared houses, to eat in the same mess halls, their children were to be raised as a group in a common environment by special caretakers (public schools).
Hebrew: against public schooling as human is more diverce then one program and dispise living in shared houses as this leaves no room for a spirit and self (walk in naked in your yeard wit ha wife etc). They think important is what body is doing and this influences soul, throught wrong actions of body soul can damage and limit it self in to lower body. If body perform un needed things it is a sing of underdevelopment spiritually NOT a natural thing.
Greek think: One first begins with a premise and then sets down a system of steps to come to an ultimate conclusion.
Hebrew: The problem with this is that it still relied on human reasoning which was, of course, limited by human experience. (but greek try to say, that human experience is only walid excistance.. but this is actually dark side manipulation of humans, so humans in body of here can be controlled more easily when they live ignorantly)
The Greek Alexander: His strategy was for Greece to dominate the world by conforming the world to Greek thinking. He knew that this could only be accomplished by language. He knew, almost supernaturally, that if you change a people's language, you change their whole view of life.
In Hebrew: Language is holy, words deep and meaningful of alternative communication for better understanding Creation and what we must do here to be in tune wit hnature.
Again Greek thinking: Basically, Epicurus believed that humans should pursue pleasure. The best way to achieve this is to stay away from distasteful situations by congregating with friends and like minded people. One should avoid the everyday mundane existence of the common people. The gods take no notice of human affairs, so humans have no fear of them.
Hebrew: think humans should pursuie understanding the God and self, Nature and pleasure is just a tool at times for healing and accessing another states of knowledge. But pleasure is newer the aim as peson can live in pleasure easily if has proper life that is free from slavery.
In GreeK: Stoics, Zeno of Citium. They believed that fate was responsible for everything that happened, basically denying free will. Stoics believed in shunning all emotion, which is how our culture uses that term.
Hebrew: we have free will do access any state of consicuness when practise our pure mind and body proper way. But access only for the benafit of God (eg. Nature, Humans..)
In Greek: According to the Greeks, the gods were constantly changing, and were unconcerned with the mundane affairs of man.
In Hebrew: In Hebrew thought, however, YHWH never changes. He is immutable and is not like man, This is one of the most important attributes of 'Elohiym, and it cannot be separated from scriptural faith
(as the human evolution time is so short, it is illogical to think, that real gods in this short time would change of their plans and self... this is whole point of God to know how to be, ... help of special plants in nature can always help us to remind what is and how, also the Word the plants will make clear)
Greek: think life in their view was seen as linear. Time was an endless point in the past and continued to an endless point in the future.
Hebrew: The 'Elohiym of scriptural thought is cyclical not linear.
Greek:
To the western mind, worshipping is an event and not part of the daily Greek lifestyle. When the event was over both the worshipers and the worshipped were pleased and content.
The Greek tends to separate worship from service, which is the background in Hebrew thought, to understanding worship.
(rituals just for sake of fooling common people etc)
They also think: Denying ones self was very spiritual, because the physical was evil.
and
The sooner one entered the heavenlies the better. This is why suicide was a very noble thing in Greek thinking.
Hebrew: Worship was intimately tied to work or service. Service to 'Elohiym was not seen as secular and worship as religious or spiritual, but rather they were the same act.
Because everything is seen as theological to the Jew. When a man goes to his job, he is going to worship and serve YHVH. He is worshipping YHVH when he tends to his wife's needs. He does not separate out ordinary daily activities from his religious duties, for they are one and the same.
in hebrew: To begin with, true spirituality is earthly and not otherworldly
To the Hebrew, man was placed upon the earth and given responsibilities to take care of the earth.
He is given instructions on how to take care of the body and how to love your neighbor. He is told how to plant crops and when not to plant crops
(and as we see, many people now has forget how to please a womenand plant a crops..)
Hebrew, To the scripturally spiritual man the other world is the reward, not the goal.
and:
To be spiritual was to be in this world, fully aware and fully focused on your part in all that you do
20 June 2015 12:27
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
am not know the word before.. know now! :))
20 June 2015 12:26
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
i made one half way table that shows the basis and difference of Greek mind sett and Hebrew for example. .. am sure most people using Facebook will be under Greek .. if you want to test yourself.. let me know, will send link
20 June 2015 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
nothing against the Greeks as a humans, country man but if anyone want to search source of ALL that we complain about.. then this is one best nests where to look, deep...
But we not able to look to Deep.. as.. the MINDS we use, are GREEK programmed.. the thinking on most people are GREEK not shamanic, or hebrew, or native american spiritual or religious mind sett... but GREEK mindset.. big part of relgions are programmed in to Greek mindset.. so the brain and problem solving and understanding of the world and morals, are TOTALLY different.... greek rules through Confusion (CONfusious, ..not coincidence..)
And they agree, the Russia and Greek.. to use maximum way the "Useful Idiots" .. you can see there is Russian article, about "useful idiots".. just google it.. Stalin loved these "intellectuals"
But we not able to look to Deep.. as.. the MINDS we use, are GREEK programmed.. the thinking on most people are GREEK not shamanic, or hebrew, or native american spiritual or religious mind sett... but GREEK mindset.. big part of relgions are programmed in to Greek mindset.. so the brain and problem solving and understanding of the world and morals, are TOTALLY different.... greek rules through Confusion (CONfusious, ..not coincidence..)
And they agree, the Russia and Greek.. to use maximum way the "Useful Idiots" .. you can see there is Russian article, about "useful idiots".. just google it.. Stalin loved these "intellectuals"
20 June 2015 11:54
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
LOL, SUPPPPPORT of Greek?? These bastards (aka Roman empire) are behind majority of ill that happens in a world from communism to fascism (and robotic school system that is 100% Greek... and ROman Church someone has heard perhaps..) ... they black mail other nations and want to keep them self as boss, so all have to pay to them in a institution what they thought they will be running to the end of times (the EU) ... and now they made social situation with a immigrants, where millions of homeless people have to flood to EU for a punishment, because we did not agree to Greek black mail... so they in return in Cooperation with Russia (not just the oil co operation..) plan massive dysgenic, cacogenic project... FORCING other nation to accept immigrants "Or else" ... fascists in Another level.. as their roots for global manipulation and removing spirituality from church so it would be institution.. go back LONG time.. with all the pedophile rituals and way more darker things..
SUPPORT their rule.. what i a world...
Besides, local Greeks laughed out loud about "money situation" telling, they newer have had lack of money and newer will be, .. perhaps am try to find a documentary interviews from local Greeks from last year who totally wondered.. where people get this idea that they are in crisis.. and why poorer nations then Greek 3-4 times, have to pay their debts that they told Upfront, they WILL NOT ever pay back and will newer be planning to pay back to "naive Europeans"
Problem is that most people lack the understanding, that Greek grandfathers are the ones, who run the most of the world, just by language and education and political AND entertainment system they created 3000 years ago, and enforced globally with pedophiles and Romans and Homo Alexander Big around the world, and Re-Enforced 1000years ago (this when UK was enslaved by "France" and Normans finally... "Russia" that was made with Butzans empire and Normans... they .. Russians STILL have state logo .. the Two Headed Eagle.. as a state symbol... the Roman Military most important symbol.. )
SUPPORT their rule.. what i a world...
Besides, local Greeks laughed out loud about "money situation" telling, they newer have had lack of money and newer will be, .. perhaps am try to find a documentary interviews from local Greeks from last year who totally wondered.. where people get this idea that they are in crisis.. and why poorer nations then Greek 3-4 times, have to pay their debts that they told Upfront, they WILL NOT ever pay back and will newer be planning to pay back to "naive Europeans"
Problem is that most people lack the understanding, that Greek grandfathers are the ones, who run the most of the world, just by language and education and political AND entertainment system they created 3000 years ago, and enforced globally with pedophiles and Romans and Homo Alexander Big around the world, and Re-Enforced 1000years ago (this when UK was enslaved by "France" and Normans finally... "Russia" that was made with Butzans empire and Normans... they .. Russians STILL have state logo .. the Two Headed Eagle.. as a state symbol... the Roman Military most important symbol.. )
20 June 2015 11:50
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
This is also kind of Art, how people are tricked to use pharmacy but afraid magic mushrooms that can cure many causes in ten fold.
Lucky them there is still punks, hippies, anarcos and psychonauts who keep ancient shaman tools near so they will not be extinct .
But yea, people bare naked body , is Art enough for me and eyes..
Lucky them there is still punks, hippies, anarcos and psychonauts who keep ancient shaman tools near so they will not be extinct .
But yea, people bare naked body , is Art enough for me and eyes..
20 June 2015 11:10
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
Hey if ya see Ben (the story rapper one) then tell him to be safe, saw some things in parallel world... talking about art, Hes gf is doing proper beatifically art that is far out and spiritually on spot
20 June 2015 11:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
Art is when there is a real meaning of value that the story expresses and by looking what you look You can expand the story above normal mind and benefit humanity in great amounts,
if there is no important explanation for that (real one, not just invented for sales) ... then most likely it is just old same communist mockery of an art and a art mind besides sales for weird kind of porn for special types of pervs who can want it off by topping all that with their own version of sicks imagery thinking it is a blood and some cult ritual symbolism there...
but yeah... if people start to think that this is art, that anyone can imitate, cheap, with no real way to make difference for imitations and real.. and no real way to argue the beneficial value of it all.. then if you have to ASK is it art.. then most likely for sure it is not. some call the mockery of art in a fancy way "abstract art" so it sells better for people who lack sense of art.
And when human art senses dull (as same with media senses, food and taste senses, feeling and touch and other sensors of justice...) then they will be most easy to control, as first they will be tricked to ill behavior and second they will be sucking state titty for ever as they lack knowledge how to handle their life of their own, from ground up
Roman plan long time ago.. (aka communist plan) to grow people up in a way that they work for state instead for their own home land and yard... so they have to be forced for common good as a work, not as a common sense (eg. intelligence significant reduce from old times )
(and the version of capitalism, is just a Tool of communist for the slavery agenda, really small difference in big picture)
if there is no important explanation for that (real one, not just invented for sales) ... then most likely it is just old same communist mockery of an art and a art mind besides sales for weird kind of porn for special types of pervs who can want it off by topping all that with their own version of sicks imagery thinking it is a blood and some cult ritual symbolism there...
but yeah... if people start to think that this is art, that anyone can imitate, cheap, with no real way to make difference for imitations and real.. and no real way to argue the beneficial value of it all.. then if you have to ASK is it art.. then most likely for sure it is not. some call the mockery of art in a fancy way "abstract art" so it sells better for people who lack sense of art.
And when human art senses dull (as same with media senses, food and taste senses, feeling and touch and other sensors of justice...) then they will be most easy to control, as first they will be tricked to ill behavior and second they will be sucking state titty for ever as they lack knowledge how to handle their life of their own, from ground up
Roman plan long time ago.. (aka communist plan) to grow people up in a way that they work for state instead for their own home land and yard... so they have to be forced for common good as a work, not as a common sense (eg. intelligence significant reduce from old times )
(and the version of capitalism, is just a Tool of communist for the slavery agenda, really small difference in big picture)
20 June 2015 11:03
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
Kurk oli vist kõige , ainuke tervislik asi kogu sellest jamast ja seda eiras :D:D
19 June 2015 19:31
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
Räpib nagu Boss of eminem aga toitub nagu retard robot kellel väga vähe arusaama mida kehasse ja miks panema peaks, et ajud 60nselt ka vee ltoimiks
19 June 2015 19:30
Margus Meigo commented on John Turmel's post.
Oh i meant you talk about Cult of the Dead Cow
19 June 2015 18:33
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
NATURE is human lives... and human lives have no life or nature, if nature is not taken in to first step... nature also means, full education ,radical, abut nature, in all arias
Nature is God, for sure that is more important then humans who destroy it if they keep growing up people on Greek mindset education system
Nature is God, for sure that is more important then humans who destroy it if they keep growing up people on Greek mindset education system
18 June 2015 16:57
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
why so red
18 June 2015 16:55
Margus Meigo commented on Met Office's photo.
Got it from Archive.is .. nice find!
17 June 2015 15:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
You can see, that's clearly better, innit:
http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Open_Source_Everythinghttp://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Open_Source_Everything
16 June 2015 01:48
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's post.
Kuigi, mõte artiklik oli tegelt õige, kuid see põhines inimeste süüdistustel, kes on keeldunud elu päriselt õppimast, Uskuda tuleb (ka seda, et nad päriselt pole kunagi surnud, ilma ootusteta) ja tuleb elu ajal elada ja teha kõiki neid asju nii palju, kui rahulikult aega on mis on SINULE ja SINU armastatudele ja Ülejäänud planeedile kõige kasulikum, järgnevate põlvede jaoks, mitte sinu hetke pangakonto või tuleviku diplomi, vaid planeedi jaoks, miinimum.
Et 300 aasta pärast Sinu sõprade lapse lapsed saaksid sind üles otsida netist, sest siis kõigi info igas sügavuses saadaval janähtav,
lihtsalt. .. et nad siis näeksid, kui vahvaid, maalähedasi ja tarku ning häid asjuSa tegid, ning mis õpetusi NEILE tulevikku jätsid, mida nad saaksid edasi kanda, järgnevatele, mitmesaja aasta mõõtmes,
Keegi kes on hea, ei soovi,et teine tema pärast pahasti tunneks, pikalt.
Et 300 aasta pärast Sinu sõprade lapse lapsed saaksid sind üles otsida netist, sest siis kõigi info igas sügavuses saadaval janähtav,
lihtsalt. .. et nad siis näeksid, kui vahvaid, maalähedasi ja tarku ning häid asjuSa tegid, ning mis õpetusi NEILE tulevikku jätsid, mida nad saaksid edasi kanda, järgnevatele, mitmesaja aasta mõõtmes,
Keegi kes on hea, ei soovi,et teine tema pärast pahasti tunneks, pikalt.
16 June 2015 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's post.
Muidugi need asjad mida nad keelavad öelda, on suures osas tõesed, üldse, kuna eriti valged inimesed on nii harimatud ja arenematud armastuse ja surma osas, siis suurem osa ei oska surma osas muud teha kui ahastada asja üle millest aru ei saada, kuid kuni sinnamaani oli põnev teiste surmade näidendeid kinot või uudistest vaadata küll.
Armastuse (st ka surma osas) targad inimesed on enamasti juba nii enda kui ka lähedaste surmaks valmis, sest nad teavad, et elu pole piiratud ainult nendesse ruumidesse siin.
MIks igaks juhuks pahastitunda, kui teisel ehk on tõesti, nüüd parem? Saaks aru, et tunned pahasti,sest usud põrgusse ja tead, et viimane ei jõudnud oma südant ära puhastada ja õigesti, õiges teadmises surra, siis jah, on muidugi kurb. Kuid kõige veidram on, kui inimesed, kes pole isegi relgioosed, ning seega ei usu elu suurtematesse väärtustesse nagu hing ja selle olulisus.. et nemad just tihti kõige valusamalt võtavad surma.
Selleks on kirjeldmatu suuruse ja võimsusega tehnoloogia, taimed, olemas, mis inimesi ravib armastuse ja õpetab ning treenib surma osas, kuid meist paljud hoiduvad nendest ja pigem soovivad alkoholi, liha, ja teleka sõltuvuses olla.. ja siis kui PÄRIS elu korra külla tuleb (eh sh. ka surm) siis on shoki seisund.. sest suurema osa elust mõeldi fantaasiaid, poliitikat ja kõike muud mis polnud ei looduse ega lähedastega hinge tasandil seotud.
Nii tunnen mina vähemasti, vaadates mitmeid ja mitmeid inimesi kuidas ja kui hooletult nad käituvad enda suhtes, vaadates mida iganes telekast ja pannes enda kehasse asju mida pole vaja... selle asemel, et päriselt südame ja mõistuse raviga tegeleda (Maagilised seened, mdma, pea kõik psühhedeelsed hallotsionigeenid relgiooses kasutuses suures osas omavad selgeid õpetusi ja informatsiooni tasuta internetis kuidas ja milleks neid kasutada, et saada aimu surma ja sünni osas, kuid selle asemel loetakse elu24 kollasest lehest mingi staarieraelukohta... selle asemel, et enda hnge ja siseeluga tegeleda, et PÄRIS ühedusse saada )
KUid selle eest, mis nad lõpusütlesid on topelt hea:
Tell me about your father.
I wish I had known him.
I don’t know how you feel, but I am here to help in any way I can.
My favorite memory of your father is…
I wish I had the right words. Just know that I care.
Armastuse (st ka surma osas) targad inimesed on enamasti juba nii enda kui ka lähedaste surmaks valmis, sest nad teavad, et elu pole piiratud ainult nendesse ruumidesse siin.
MIks igaks juhuks pahastitunda, kui teisel ehk on tõesti, nüüd parem? Saaks aru, et tunned pahasti,sest usud põrgusse ja tead, et viimane ei jõudnud oma südant ära puhastada ja õigesti, õiges teadmises surra, siis jah, on muidugi kurb. Kuid kõige veidram on, kui inimesed, kes pole isegi relgioosed, ning seega ei usu elu suurtematesse väärtustesse nagu hing ja selle olulisus.. et nemad just tihti kõige valusamalt võtavad surma.
Selleks on kirjeldmatu suuruse ja võimsusega tehnoloogia, taimed, olemas, mis inimesi ravib armastuse ja õpetab ning treenib surma osas, kuid meist paljud hoiduvad nendest ja pigem soovivad alkoholi, liha, ja teleka sõltuvuses olla.. ja siis kui PÄRIS elu korra külla tuleb (eh sh. ka surm) siis on shoki seisund.. sest suurema osa elust mõeldi fantaasiaid, poliitikat ja kõike muud mis polnud ei looduse ega lähedastega hinge tasandil seotud.
Nii tunnen mina vähemasti, vaadates mitmeid ja mitmeid inimesi kuidas ja kui hooletult nad käituvad enda suhtes, vaadates mida iganes telekast ja pannes enda kehasse asju mida pole vaja... selle asemel, et päriselt südame ja mõistuse raviga tegeleda (Maagilised seened, mdma, pea kõik psühhedeelsed hallotsionigeenid relgiooses kasutuses suures osas omavad selgeid õpetusi ja informatsiooni tasuta internetis kuidas ja milleks neid kasutada, et saada aimu surma ja sünni osas, kuid selle asemel loetakse elu24 kollasest lehest mingi staarieraelukohta... selle asemel, et enda hnge ja siseeluga tegeleda, et PÄRIS ühedusse saada )
KUid selle eest, mis nad lõpusütlesid on topelt hea:
Tell me about your father.
I wish I had known him.
I don’t know how you feel, but I am here to help in any way I can.
My favorite memory of your father is…
I wish I had the right words. Just know that I care.
16 June 2015 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
and if their version of deception is not enought, then thry these. http://www.phibetaiota.net/
(from OSS.net) they many levels more advanced and older..http://www.phibetaiota.net/
16 June 2015 01:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
~ June 15 ~
London 5:00 PM ~ 7 pm Lithuania ~ 9:30 pm New Delhi
9 am Los Angeles ~ Noon New York
~ June 16 ~
Midnight Perth ~ 1 am Tokyo
We will see about that. "Government delegations from diverse nations will be in attendance for the Inauguration Event on 14th June. This multi-lateral observance will help us to successfully launch the ITNJ onto the world stage in a way that mainstream media will be unable to ignore"
http://www.newearth.events/http://www.newearth.events/
16 June 2015 00:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
"We have been counting down the days until June 15 and the Inaugural Ceremonial Seating of the International Tribunal for Natural Justice. The Inauguration of the ITNJ is scheduled to coincide with the 800th anniversary of the signing of the Magna Carta, and 800 years to the day, we will sign the ITNJ into action, breathing life into a new mandate for Truth and fairness in jurisprudence.
We invite you to join the events of June 15 via live-stream broadcast from Westminster Hall, London. What better venue to hold the Inaugural Ceremony of the People's Tribunal than in the shadow of where Kings and Queens have been crowned for centuries! Once again on that historic day the People will declare that even the presumed 'rulers' must follow the Rule of Law"16 June 2015 00:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
Slogans are big:
"This is the first court in the history of the world “Of the People, by the People, and for the People.” Let history be rewritten according to our will and our intent. Let Freedom ring throughout our world. "
"Once the Inaugural Ceremony video footage spins out around the world, there will be no stopping the People from bringing this Tribunal into action and doing whatever it takes to restore the Rule of Law for the benefit of all."
" The people who are lining up to support the ITNJ are a veritable Who's Who of retired supreme court justices, ambassadors, whistleblowers, and advocates for peace and human rights. We are joined by activists working in every area of import to our lives, including health freedom, food and farming freedom, tax freedom, freedom from surveillance and SMART meters, promulgation of free energy, and ending “free trade” agreements. Our supporters also include teachers and researchers of law & sovereignty and leaders of the Common Law Grand Jury movement. "
" Government delegations from diverse nations will be in attendance for the Inauguration Event on 14th June. This multi-lateral observance will help us to successfully launch the ITNJ onto the world stage in a way that mainstream media will be unable to ignore. For the officiation on 15th June we have secured a room in Westminster Hall, and this event will be broadcast via live-stream to our International Chapters and the world at large. "
"A dedicated international team has worked tirelessly to set up a method where the People themselves can make their voices heard. We are restoring the Grand Jury as a structure where the People are the primary arbiters of law (Natural Justice) in their communities. We have set the stage to prove all manner of systemic fraud and corruption revolving around the Source Documents. Full transparency, through the e-Governance platform, will give the people of the world a front-row seat."
"Your signature on the ITNJ Treaty serves as full public and private notice that you understand that true power resides within you. "
http://www.itnj.org/itnj/itnj-treaty/http://www.itnj.org/itnj/itnj-treaty/
16 June 2015 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
the kind size moves..
15 June 2015 02:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Hmm.....
15 June 2015 02:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
just for clarification there is more then 11 important details just in first sight on that image, what am love about it. but basically, it is nearly all You can see from the screen that i have been connecting to real data and thoughts and actions of light kind ...
.. even the retro detail in memory of Winamp.... just start the extraction from there, from starters. (including the politics behind the software besides playlist and features.. but lets soon to that bible passage and ... whats the cow c... about, even time is on our side )
.. even the retro detail in memory of Winamp.... just start the extraction from there, from starters. (including the politics behind the software besides playlist and features.. but lets soon to that bible passage and ... whats the cow c... about, even time is on our side )
15 June 2015 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
i really like to show off how little my Firefox is taking resources with 42 some tabs :p
like .. in my G3k album one old screener
like .. in my G3k album one old screener
15 June 2015 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
https://marguswaffa.wordpress.com/2011/12/16/left-right/
https://marguswaffa.wordpress.com/2011/12/16/left-right/
15 June 2015 02:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200175229640196&set=a.10200175222160009.2188426.1135161043&type=3&permPage=1
15 June 2015 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3358130828809&set=a.3358125388673.2153626.1135161043&type=3&theater
15 June 2015 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205986287073000&set=gm.633889856747266&type=1
15 June 2015 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Psychedelic Chemistry
Probably need to download it to full screen : )15 June 2015 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
(click next picture)
15 June 2015 01:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
They not holding back with a words, do they.. at same time..
15 June 2015 01:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
For every member that makes how much... of our Mac meal? 30c?
15 June 2015 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Psychedelic Chemistry
The address there is human. hol.es15 June 2015 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Aaslo's post.
Group: Poliitikast ja elust - Arutleme vabalt
jalgevahevahe
ei saa öelda, et vahet pole, ja vahetevahel on vahedevahel vahed ka vahel, kuid see on juba muu lugu14 June 2015 23:46
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Aaslo's post.
Group: Poliitikast ja elust - Arutleme vabalt
Raivo: muidu sugu väga oluline, sest teatud isenditele on loomupärasem olla arenenum, lihtsalt siiani, on seda redelitpidi suht mõrased naised nii kaugele saanud ja siis ka ajaloost pole eriti midagi head näha...
Kuid jah, võta lihtsalt suvalised 100 naist ja suva 100 meest baaridest, ja vaata kumma grupis on rohkem probleeme , statistiliselt, seega .. vahe on vahel14 June 2015 23:45
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Aaslo's post.
Group: Poliitikast ja elust - Arutleme vabalt
Naised juhivatki maailma, kui naised SELLEST arusaama hakkavad, SIIS ei ole sõdu enam... aga ei.. neil vaja endiselt oma vahel sudida.. "minu mees vs sinu mees" jms
get real biches14 June 2015 23:43
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
mis nii hapu nägu :P
Välimus on küll supper,
joogil ka
Välimus on küll supper,
joogil ka
14 June 2015 15:58
Margus Meigo commented on Berit Masso's post.
Aga rutiini ei peaks olema.. peaks olmea see mida keha ja vaim kutsub : )
14 June 2015 15:53
Margus Meigo commented on Berit Masso's post.
Võib nii olla küll
14 June 2015 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on Berit Masso's photo.
Küll sul on ikka huvitavaid kassi pilte...
14 June 2015 15:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But for Paul.. 48 keys to power not really a nice book to mention as guide line.. unless you are a Gladiator or power seeking psychopath (but yes, it is important book to learn the mind of the enemy.. )
14 June 2015 03:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Will I allow myself to be part of a program that is doing disservice to my officers? Will I attempt to do the right thing even at risk of my own detriment? Where do you go when you find you can’t do the job you wanted to do in the land you are working in?
Tough questions with tough answers."
Tough questions with tough answers."
14 June 2015 03:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And when there is more then one egos, then You will really have a bäd day, listen it from another one
Many trainers are familiar with the old adage, “You are never a prophet in your own land.” Jesus himself testified that, “a prophet hath no honor in his own country.” (Well, but He is still called Jesus of Nazaret innit?)
Translated: a stranger would have more belief in you than your own family because they have known you since birth. Jesus couldn't teach His own family because their idea of a King was totally different from what Jesus taught. They thought that His teachings had nothing to do with running a kingdom.
No matter how much you know or how important people believe you are outside of your kingdom, you will always just be a regular old ‘Joe Blow’ to those who are nearest you. Can you handle being unimportant at your agency if you have appropriate outside outlets?
Never Outshine the Master
The book, The 48 Laws of Power states in law number one: “Never outshine the master.”
--
Trainers themselves fall into the same mindset as their supervisors at times. They want to run their training kingdom without interference from supervisors above or from influences outside. Many feel that their agency is self sufficient when it comes to training trainers.
If you limit training to what you have always done, how do you grow? If your training cadre is managed by an individual who does not like to be challenged, what type of trainers will he surround himself with?
--
A true leader, however, would prefer to be told what goes on in the world so that he can make a sound decision as to his future progress and endeavors. Ultimately those we train benefit from a well-trained and -educated training staff.
Conflict and Courageous Conversations
If all you ever do is what you have always done, you will never get more than what you already have. Few things anger me more than someone answering a “why” question with, “Because we’ve always done it this way.”
There is no learning or higher understanding gleaned from that response. If you are a person who offers that as an answer (or accepts that as an answer), you need to step back and rethink what you are doing in your position.
--
I know many trainers who are considered experts and are well respected across the nation in fields of use of force, firearms and defensive tactics (many of whom are authors for a host of respected publications, books, and columns here PoliceOne).
The little-known fact about all of these highly-respected trainers is that they are not (or were not) in good graces with their agencies. Not prophets in their own land! They were (or are being) run off. Certainly not being nurtured for their initiative, hard work, or willingness to create a high standard and then train others to that standard. Can you imagine?
You see, these are the men and women who were either never brought into training or were brought in and then removed. They are the individuals who either wanted to (or attempted to) propel training to the next level, change it up or think outside the box.
They are the ones who dared to ask the “why” questions and were not satisfied with the standard response. They continued to ask the “why” questions and were either removed for their insubordinate behavior or were ignored for so long that they finally tired and left of their own accord.
--
Sometimes we argue over ideas or suggestions. When egos do not get in the way, such conflict can bring compromise and resolution — greater learning and understanding for all involved.
Egos will hold back true progress for reasons only understood by the animal brain. Egos can mean the difference between achieving the original, common goal — or abandoning it. All too often, the goal is abandoned or it turns a group from working together to individually pursuing an objective (or worse, more than one).
Conflict and resolution can help us grow as operators, trainers, and supervisors of individuals and teams. Unfortunately some folks are unwilling to have these courageous conversations and choose to either avoid conflict or to disengage from the entire objective.
Those options are destructive to the group and to the individual. Anyone who continually runs from conflict will never truly grow. Anyone who remains in the team and yet does not voice their opposition will only hold the team back by failing to carry their fair share. How do you carry your share of a load you do not believe in?
There are hard questions to ask yourself as you begin to take on the beast of training. What am I doing this for? What do I hope to gain? Can I hold true to myself and what I know is right?
Will I allow myself to be part of a program that is doing disservice to my officers? Will I attempt to do the right thing even at risk of my own detriment? Where do you go when you find you can’t do the job you wanted to do in the land you are working in?
Tough questions with tough answers.
http://www.policeone.com/police-trainers/articles/6106977-Do-egos-hold-your-training-back
Many trainers are familiar with the old adage, “You are never a prophet in your own land.” Jesus himself testified that, “a prophet hath no honor in his own country.” (Well, but He is still called Jesus of Nazaret innit?)
Translated: a stranger would have more belief in you than your own family because they have known you since birth. Jesus couldn't teach His own family because their idea of a King was totally different from what Jesus taught. They thought that His teachings had nothing to do with running a kingdom.
No matter how much you know or how important people believe you are outside of your kingdom, you will always just be a regular old ‘Joe Blow’ to those who are nearest you. Can you handle being unimportant at your agency if you have appropriate outside outlets?
Never Outshine the Master
The book, The 48 Laws of Power states in law number one: “Never outshine the master.”
--
Trainers themselves fall into the same mindset as their supervisors at times. They want to run their training kingdom without interference from supervisors above or from influences outside. Many feel that their agency is self sufficient when it comes to training trainers.
If you limit training to what you have always done, how do you grow? If your training cadre is managed by an individual who does not like to be challenged, what type of trainers will he surround himself with?
--
A true leader, however, would prefer to be told what goes on in the world so that he can make a sound decision as to his future progress and endeavors. Ultimately those we train benefit from a well-trained and -educated training staff.
Conflict and Courageous Conversations
If all you ever do is what you have always done, you will never get more than what you already have. Few things anger me more than someone answering a “why” question with, “Because we’ve always done it this way.”
There is no learning or higher understanding gleaned from that response. If you are a person who offers that as an answer (or accepts that as an answer), you need to step back and rethink what you are doing in your position.
--
I know many trainers who are considered experts and are well respected across the nation in fields of use of force, firearms and defensive tactics (many of whom are authors for a host of respected publications, books, and columns here PoliceOne).
The little-known fact about all of these highly-respected trainers is that they are not (or were not) in good graces with their agencies. Not prophets in their own land! They were (or are being) run off. Certainly not being nurtured for their initiative, hard work, or willingness to create a high standard and then train others to that standard. Can you imagine?
You see, these are the men and women who were either never brought into training or were brought in and then removed. They are the individuals who either wanted to (or attempted to) propel training to the next level, change it up or think outside the box.
They are the ones who dared to ask the “why” questions and were not satisfied with the standard response. They continued to ask the “why” questions and were either removed for their insubordinate behavior or were ignored for so long that they finally tired and left of their own accord.
--
Sometimes we argue over ideas or suggestions. When egos do not get in the way, such conflict can bring compromise and resolution — greater learning and understanding for all involved.
Egos will hold back true progress for reasons only understood by the animal brain. Egos can mean the difference between achieving the original, common goal — or abandoning it. All too often, the goal is abandoned or it turns a group from working together to individually pursuing an objective (or worse, more than one).
Conflict and resolution can help us grow as operators, trainers, and supervisors of individuals and teams. Unfortunately some folks are unwilling to have these courageous conversations and choose to either avoid conflict or to disengage from the entire objective.
Those options are destructive to the group and to the individual. Anyone who continually runs from conflict will never truly grow. Anyone who remains in the team and yet does not voice their opposition will only hold the team back by failing to carry their fair share. How do you carry your share of a load you do not believe in?
There are hard questions to ask yourself as you begin to take on the beast of training. What am I doing this for? What do I hope to gain? Can I hold true to myself and what I know is right?
Will I allow myself to be part of a program that is doing disservice to my officers? Will I attempt to do the right thing even at risk of my own detriment? Where do you go when you find you can’t do the job you wanted to do in the land you are working in?
Tough questions with tough answers.
http://www.policeone.com/police-trainers/articles/6106977-Do-egos-hold-your-training-back
http://www.policeone.com/police-trainers/articles/6106977-Do-egos-hold-your-training-back
14 June 2015 03:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Here are a few ideas to help you through situations when you see red and ego starts to rear its ugly head. Ask yourself:
• Should I continue alone?
• Where’s back-up?
• Why am I being challenged?
• Is what I’m doing legal?
• Even if it is legal, is it wise?
• What’s the upside?
• What’s the downside?
• What’s Important Now? (W.I.N.)
Things to not be thinking:
• I don’t need back-up.
• I can handle this guy.
• If I move fast enough, tactics don’t matter.
• This should be no problem.
• He looks weak.
• I’m stronger than him.
• I’ve done this a million times before.
As soon as I took the bait I knew I made a mistake. Soon I was fighting – and losing. Now I was thinking completely different thoughts.
• Paulie — you dummy.
• How did you get yourself into this mess?
• I hope back-up gets here quick.
• How did I end up in his car?
• Why am I losing to such a skinny kid?
• Time to retreat.
• Get outta here!!
• Where the hell is back-up?
• Escalate or disengage but do it quick!
After further review, I assessed myself (rightfully so) as the village idiot for the night. It did not click why I acted so untactfully until two weeks later when my good friend from Amarillo laid it out for a room full of wanna-be tough guys.
“Ego ain’t your amigo.”
He couldn’t be more right.
There’s always going to be someone bigger, stronger and faster. You’re going to meet them — often. Do yourself and your other officers a huge favor. Keep that ego in check. Your true amigos are good tactics and a level head.
About the author
Lieutenant Paul Marik is a 20-year veteran of law enforcement who began his career working undercover straight out of the academy. He has worked all facets of the job including School Resource Officer, SWAT, Narcotics, Patrol, Field Training (FTO), and he is currently a Lieutenant Commander with the Pleasant Prairie (Wis.) Police Department. Paul has been with the PPPD since 1997 and is the senior trainer for the department. Paul holds a BS in Management of Criminal Justice and an MBA. He is a state-wide instructor for Firearms, Defense & Arrest Tactics, Use of Force, Deadly Force Decision Making, Dry-Fire, Low Light Shooting, Honor Guard, and Tactical Functional Training.
Paul is also a Master Instructor in Tactical Response and a Certified Force Science Analyst (FSI). He is currently a 15year member (senior operator) of the Kenosha County Tactical Response Team (SWAT). He is recognized in his region as a use of force analyst and has investigated several use-of-force situations involving officers in southeastern Wisconsin.
Paul is a current member of the International Law Enforcement Trainers Association (ILEETA), Midwest Tactical Officers Association (MTOA), and the Wisconsin Honor Guard Association (WHGA).
So basically, Paul is badäss, so shut it rookie
• Should I continue alone?
• Where’s back-up?
• Why am I being challenged?
• Is what I’m doing legal?
• Even if it is legal, is it wise?
• What’s the upside?
• What’s the downside?
• What’s Important Now? (W.I.N.)
Things to not be thinking:
• I don’t need back-up.
• I can handle this guy.
• If I move fast enough, tactics don’t matter.
• This should be no problem.
• He looks weak.
• I’m stronger than him.
• I’ve done this a million times before.
As soon as I took the bait I knew I made a mistake. Soon I was fighting – and losing. Now I was thinking completely different thoughts.
• Paulie — you dummy.
• How did you get yourself into this mess?
• I hope back-up gets here quick.
• How did I end up in his car?
• Why am I losing to such a skinny kid?
• Time to retreat.
• Get outta here!!
• Where the hell is back-up?
• Escalate or disengage but do it quick!
After further review, I assessed myself (rightfully so) as the village idiot for the night. It did not click why I acted so untactfully until two weeks later when my good friend from Amarillo laid it out for a room full of wanna-be tough guys.
“Ego ain’t your amigo.”
He couldn’t be more right.
There’s always going to be someone bigger, stronger and faster. You’re going to meet them — often. Do yourself and your other officers a huge favor. Keep that ego in check. Your true amigos are good tactics and a level head.
About the author
Lieutenant Paul Marik is a 20-year veteran of law enforcement who began his career working undercover straight out of the academy. He has worked all facets of the job including School Resource Officer, SWAT, Narcotics, Patrol, Field Training (FTO), and he is currently a Lieutenant Commander with the Pleasant Prairie (Wis.) Police Department. Paul has been with the PPPD since 1997 and is the senior trainer for the department. Paul holds a BS in Management of Criminal Justice and an MBA. He is a state-wide instructor for Firearms, Defense & Arrest Tactics, Use of Force, Deadly Force Decision Making, Dry-Fire, Low Light Shooting, Honor Guard, and Tactical Functional Training.
Paul is also a Master Instructor in Tactical Response and a Certified Force Science Analyst (FSI). He is currently a 15year member (senior operator) of the Kenosha County Tactical Response Team (SWAT). He is recognized in his region as a use of force analyst and has investigated several use-of-force situations involving officers in southeastern Wisconsin.
Paul is a current member of the International Law Enforcement Trainers Association (ILEETA), Midwest Tactical Officers Association (MTOA), and the Wisconsin Honor Guard Association (WHGA).
So basically, Paul is badäss, so shut it rookie
14 June 2015 03:02
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
grocery - it is even about 23 years more worth then Mercedes... well, if You get free gas then that You could sell, hire people who sell it and earn to travel free, get a car and food.. even thought free travel to any place any time is a worth most for opportunities and value that You would have to earn to do it yourself... but still, perhaps value of money will be no more soon and there is nothing to do with 300... then free travel seems still best as i believe perhaps there would be people enough who would provide food for me (as for who am would travel anyway then for people..) so yeah, will choose travel, who knows what we can accomplish with it, besides, if worst comes to worst will eat in airplane :p
Practical mind would choose food, but soul.. says TRAVEL!
Practical mind would choose food, but soul.. says TRAVEL!
14 June 2015 02:25
Margus Meigo commented on Nur Natasya's photo.
ju see.. if you wear jeans u become sad... (and also jeans ruin women birth channel changing their bone structure, so they can not have healthy child birth so easy)
13 June 2015 17:05
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's photo.
Kena elutruu naeratus .)
13 June 2015 16:36
Margus Meigo commented on Chris George's photo.
I think people should first learn WHY and HOW to live, and then start to think about living longer.. what You think?
13 June 2015 14:55
Margus Meigo commented on Chris George's post.
Video is not loading , can you tell me in short what it is ?
13 June 2015 14:53
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
Mul taoline särk Okupandid Ahju", tol ajal kui noorem kõrvadevahelt olin tundus see ka vahva mõneks ajaks
Mina otseselt seda tegelast pahaks ei paneks, eriti kuna vaevalt, et tema kehaehitust vaadates paljud talle moraali lugema läksid (ehk siis nad ei uskunud enda eelarvamusi..)
Nii sooviks taga kohtuda, küsida kui paljud ja mida talle särgi kohta ütlesid.. nägemaks eesrindlike tegelike palesi...
Ta selline mees, et ta vabalt oleks võinud ka selle särgi ära võtta kui mõistlikult mõistlik inimene küsinud oleks
Mina otseselt seda tegelast pahaks ei paneks, eriti kuna vaevalt, et tema kehaehitust vaadates paljud talle moraali lugema läksid (ehk siis nad ei uskunud enda eelarvamusi..)
Nii sooviks taga kohtuda, küsida kui paljud ja mida talle särgi kohta ütlesid.. nägemaks eesrindlike tegelike palesi...
Ta selline mees, et ta vabalt oleks võinud ka selle särgi ära võtta kui mõistlikult mõistlik inimene küsinud oleks
12 June 2015 21:17
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
vot ma pigem arvaks, et ta ironiseerib grupi võltse inimesi, väljendades inimeste tegelikku seisukohta, sest pole ju suurel osal grupil Päriselt vahet kas nad on päris põgenikud, nad upuvad, lastakse maha või müüakse inimlihaks, las surevad ja põlevad ahjus kuskil mujal on Tegelik seisukoht kui ausad oleme.
Oma koju ikka ei võtaks ju?
Ega me nii palju siis ei kraagelnud ka kui nende maid ja süsteeme puruks tampida aitasime.... vaikides kõrvalt seistes ja alludes nii Vene kui teise viisnurga mahhinatsioonidele... nagu üks hea saadik ka mainis, Keskerakondlane
Oleks võinud ju Seisukoha Väljendamiseks saja tuhande inimesega suure piketi teha ja üle maailma meedia suuri ähvardusi teha (mida Eesti saaks teha edukalt, meie oskuste juures, suruda nii mõnigi suurriik ebamugavusest nurka... aga ei... kuidagi liialt vaiksed olime...
President oleks kindlasti ka toetuseks paar ajalukku minevat Tweeti inimeste toetuseks saatnud kellegi pihta..
Ja nüüd järsku kujutame ette, et sadades tuhandetes nad kõik on pätid ja vargad...
Ütleme ausalt, need keda nad riikide hävitamiseks SOOVIVAD riikidesse sisse smuugeldada, kui strateegilisi, neist piisab 10nest ka riigi kohta... sest nad seotud suurte asjadega...
Selge peaks olema, et kuna vähe saame nagunii valida,siis valime ainult naisi ja tüdrukuid, mäned üksikud kindlat Kristlasliku usuga poisid ka vist. Kes taime toidulised ning alkoholi ja suitsu vabad, kindlasti leiab sellise suure hulga seast neid häid sedasi filtreerides, ilma tagatausta kontrollita.
midaseal kontrollida on... eemalda enamus ohu märgid lihtsalt, mida pole vaja (ning sellega ka nende inimeste silmis, kes head, kes hästi elanud ka põgenike hulgas.. nad näevad... et nende parem elu moodus on suurema väärtusega kui narkoäriga tegeleva vanema venna oma kes seigelda valgete naistega sooviks )
Oma koju ikka ei võtaks ju?
Ega me nii palju siis ei kraagelnud ka kui nende maid ja süsteeme puruks tampida aitasime.... vaikides kõrvalt seistes ja alludes nii Vene kui teise viisnurga mahhinatsioonidele... nagu üks hea saadik ka mainis, Keskerakondlane
Oleks võinud ju Seisukoha Väljendamiseks saja tuhande inimesega suure piketi teha ja üle maailma meedia suuri ähvardusi teha (mida Eesti saaks teha edukalt, meie oskuste juures, suruda nii mõnigi suurriik ebamugavusest nurka... aga ei... kuidagi liialt vaiksed olime...
President oleks kindlasti ka toetuseks paar ajalukku minevat Tweeti inimeste toetuseks saatnud kellegi pihta..
Ja nüüd järsku kujutame ette, et sadades tuhandetes nad kõik on pätid ja vargad...
Ütleme ausalt, need keda nad riikide hävitamiseks SOOVIVAD riikidesse sisse smuugeldada, kui strateegilisi, neist piisab 10nest ka riigi kohta... sest nad seotud suurte asjadega...
Selge peaks olema, et kuna vähe saame nagunii valida,siis valime ainult naisi ja tüdrukuid, mäned üksikud kindlat Kristlasliku usuga poisid ka vist. Kes taime toidulised ning alkoholi ja suitsu vabad, kindlasti leiab sellise suure hulga seast neid häid sedasi filtreerides, ilma tagatausta kontrollita.
midaseal kontrollida on... eemalda enamus ohu märgid lihtsalt, mida pole vaja (ning sellega ka nende inimeste silmis, kes head, kes hästi elanud ka põgenike hulgas.. nad näevad... et nende parem elu moodus on suurema väärtusega kui narkoäriga tegeleva vanema venna oma kes seigelda valgete naistega sooviks )
12 June 2015 21:13
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
Hea punt!
12 June 2015 11:48
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
NU võiks viisakuse pärast natukenegi revolutsioonilisem olla ja lipsugi kaelast ära võtta.
Vahest telekast vaatad helmet, et muidu asjalik sõna mees, selgeima sõnaga, räägib lausa südamest tihti.. ja siis lips ees.. nu kuhu see kõlbab.
Kas me siis ei tea, ... kas me tõesti ei tea.. miks kommunistidel ja rooma lääne kapitalistidel lips põhi instrument oli mille osas nõustusid, kokkuleppele.. noh, et ühinemisel ikka mingi alus oleks.. ära tunda neid kes on lipsus.
Keskerakond isegi kuulda võtnud, ja nad oma telesaates ajaga kaasa käima hakkanud ja lipsust loobunud ning mõju juba suur olnud.
Vahest telekast vaatad helmet, et muidu asjalik sõna mees, selgeima sõnaga, räägib lausa südamest tihti.. ja siis lips ees.. nu kuhu see kõlbab.
Kas me siis ei tea, ... kas me tõesti ei tea.. miks kommunistidel ja rooma lääne kapitalistidel lips põhi instrument oli mille osas nõustusid, kokkuleppele.. noh, et ühinemisel ikka mingi alus oleks.. ära tunda neid kes on lipsus.
Keskerakond isegi kuulda võtnud, ja nad oma telesaates ajaga kaasa käima hakkanud ja lipsust loobunud ning mõju juba suur olnud.
12 June 2015 11:47
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek Saviir's photo.
Ma siin aint naati, kõrvenõgest ja võililli söönud paar-kolm päeva, igaksjuhuks vaja harjutada kui raha ära kaob :D
(ei noh, tegelt on maitsev ja kasulik)
Las kati proovib järg kui kodumaali:
http://maaleht.delfi.ee/news/maaleht/tarbija/valik-rohelisi-suppe-ja-sooje-voileibu?id=64400450
http://toidutare.ee/foorum/alafoorumid/toiduvalmistamine/68C/
http://tarbija24.postimees.ee/455762/naat-voilill-ja-noges-kolm-kasulikku-umbrohtu
Ma neid maalehe retsepte ise ei kasuta.. liiga rammusad.. proovin rohkem Voikade moodi veel mõnda aega
(ei noh, tegelt on maitsev ja kasulik)
Las kati proovib järg kui kodumaali:
http://maaleht.delfi.ee/news/maaleht/tarbija/valik-rohelisi-suppe-ja-sooje-voileibu?id=64400450
http://toidutare.ee/foorum/alafoorumid/toiduvalmistamine/68C/
http://tarbija24.postimees.ee/455762/naat-voilill-ja-noges-kolm-kasulikku-umbrohtu
Ma neid maalehe retsepte ise ei kasuta.. liiga rammusad.. proovin rohkem Voikade moodi veel mõnda aega
http://maaleht.delfi.ee/news/maaleht/tarbija/valik-rohelisi-suppe-ja-sooje-voileibu?id=64400450
12 June 2015 08:16
Margus Meigo commented on Matthew Carvalho's post.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
in our yard, complete blind man was stopped second time by police for speeding.11 June 2015 22:26
Margus Meigo commented on Denes Kattago's post.
Group: EI PAGULASMASSIDELE
Jah, selle kvoodi kehtestas, 150, Taavi Rõivas muide ja kes selle numbi eest ka higi käib valamas
Ehk läheb õnneks11 June 2015 21:46
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
See kutt Die Hardist vist?
Mis nimi on?
Mis nimi on?
11 June 2015 21:45
Margus Meigo replied to Risto Luitva's comment.
nu mis arulage mõtlemine see on, et Reformieraknd selliste lapsikute asjadega tegeleb?
See rohkem vene ja keskerakonna asi, ning kui see inimene üles otsida, siis näete vist isegi, et EKRE toetaja ka tõenäoselt ... tehke proovi.. küsige ta käest..
Ning lõppude lõpuks, kui inimene ausalt nii mõtleb siis ei oel tal põhjust seda häbeneda ja võlts olla, palju hullemad on need kes salaja irvitasid ja imetlesid (keda kindlasti palju) kuid kes ise ei julgenud sellist särki selga panna
See rohkem vene ja keskerakonna asi, ning kui see inimene üles otsida, siis näete vist isegi, et EKRE toetaja ka tõenäoselt ... tehke proovi.. küsige ta käest..
Ning lõppude lõpuks, kui inimene ausalt nii mõtleb siis ei oel tal põhjust seda häbeneda ja võlts olla, palju hullemad on need kes salaja irvitasid ja imetlesid (keda kindlasti palju) kuid kes ise ei julgenud sellist särki selga panna
11 June 2015 21:45
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's post.
"Meelte ja Tunnete taimed" Sinikka Piippo lt
11 June 2015 21:29
Margus Meigo replied to Anne Liisa Sarapik's comment.
:D
11 June 2015 21:11
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
still eating meat :p
11 June 2015 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Aaslo's post.
Mis jama jagatakse.. otsustasime ära juba et üle 300 ei võta ja seda ka mitme aasta jooksul ja soovitavalt ematuid tütarlapsi kes pole sõltuvustes
11 June 2015 21:03
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Leberecht's post.
Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
Miks ma peaks sellise artikli kirjutama ja kuidas õigem on islami mustanahalisest Eestlane, Eestlasena Mai Luus?
Õige Eestlane muidu räägib otse ka11 June 2015 16:44
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
true that
11 June 2015 00:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
need viisnurgad häirisd. ei saanud avalehele panna.. kuid list ise kõlab nimedes hästi.. eks näis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZw5dFC-OCo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZw5dFC-OCo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZw5dFC-OCo
10 June 2015 22:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
in truth its friking hurting when u awake, the violin
10 June 2015 21:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oh would just prefer Piano.. violin its just not fitting in to after few start like this....
WHo makes these coompositions packages liek this ?
Its for information and traveling, not for hopping around... besides, violin hurts mind (compared how music is donw) rather compared to piano
WHo makes these coompositions packages liek this ?
Its for information and traveling, not for hopping around... besides, violin hurts mind (compared how music is donw) rather compared to piano
10 June 2015 21:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Eestimaa liblikad
Vaat kus lugu, nad ei elagi lilledest
"Unlike most butterflies, the purple emperor does not feed from flowers but instead on the honeydew secreted by aphids, sap oozing from oak trees, and on dung, urine and animal carcasses"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apatura_irishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apatura_iris
10 June 2015 17:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Eestimaa liblikad
segadus oli, sest muidu ju kujutasin seda liblikat ette sellisena
ja neid valgeid jooni ka kusklt näha polnud
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7198/6948209154_c6ebdeb51d_b.jpghttps://farm8.staticflickr.com/7198/6948209154_c6ebdeb51d_b.jpg
10 June 2015 17:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Eestimaa liblikad
ma juba siin asusin täiendusi joonistama.. aga hoolega vaadates.. saab olla küll kui peamised tiivad sedasi koomale keha vastu kokku tõmmata, et tekib kumer kolmnurk.
Ma alles nüüd, hellalt alumiste tiivade vahele piiludes, avastasin, et neil on küll selline valge riba, seda ma ene ei näinud kuna ainult peamised tiivad tundusitki olema.
Liblika tagumine tiibade osa on looduses kuskil..
Kuid siis tundub, et on määratletud küll.. ikkagi üllatav, kuidas nii erinevat moodi tal need tiivad, tunduvad nagu hoopis muu sugused olema, nagu kui liblikal.
Aitah Janek Nüüd ja Kaido Kärner !10 June 2015 17:08
Margus Meigo commented on G Michael Turner's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
Thats good!
And would you say, your level of abilities, are about same as others dealing same arts of meditation with out LSD or are they less, or more?
How has that helped or not helped ?
As you know there is besides other groups, two groups of people, one sayng LSD will make people reach to the levels that makes meditation proper real later on, (more then most advanced mediators)
And others say if using LSD in ur life then you will not be able to access same levels under meditation as ur ruined a bit.
and well.. that it is a door to open to the arts.. but what is your say on it, can you please share longer, wider
to all kind of people,10 June 2015 02:34
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
but this is not a psychedelic .. it is a hallotsogen picture ... am think the terminology gos right ?
10 June 2015 01:48
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
Well.. they can push.. but will they really understand what it is.. ?
After gov agency takes some of these pushers, gives him 1200 ug..and examines one.. they will drop fast the urge to push it..
After gov agency takes some of these pushers, gives him 1200 ug..and examines one.. they will drop fast the urge to push it..
10 June 2015 01:47
Margus Meigo commented on Mead Rose's photo.
This is good catch!
Special settings in camera to get that one? .. have not seen fire one like that before.
Special settings in camera to get that one? .. have not seen fire one like that before.
9 June 2015 21:57
Margus Meigo commented on G Michael Turner's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
But in truth, now when You are experienced in third eye and all that, are You ready to try larger dosages of LSD ? Or DMT as a Drink? (not smoke) ?
And then say how much same it is with meditation. This would be interesting to hear from meditation people.. and there is no reason to say "you do not want to.." as how can You recommend meditation if it is keeping you in worry of using something that little kids have used? But interesting connections You told for sure.
Have You get to know LSD ? (how)9 June 2015 21:20
Margus Meigo commented on Jeremy Davis's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
And best cure for trip cone wrong is another trip, larger one, this should also any educator know and tell a kids, preferably use mushrooms or another dealer as well.
Maybe he got just stuck in transition of "we are all..." ... so one must continue that lesson, and not be OCD about it and just pick a orange, this is selfish and arrogant.9 June 2015 21:12
Margus Meigo commented on Jeremy Davis's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
I would debunk it as last from the test conducted we can say from Drugs Safer Usage Lab that glass of orange juice has NEWER in any condition being afraid to be pealed or drinkd.
So he must be poser ar has some personal agenda against orange juice, probably communist one. We will conduct further research on it what can be hes motives to put dirt on Orange Juice public image.
once more: Orange juice is not afraid, use logic kids!
If he would run around and stick him self inside peoples mouths or something, then we can a bit starting to believe, he is orange juice and wants to be swallowed, as it is natural thing for orange juice to do.9 June 2015 21:09
Margus Meigo commented on Jeremy Davis's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
It is kind of still strange. .that humans declare.. our makers to be legitimate... well, i guess their accept that with smile, and might keep us longer then.
If they can not use us, to protect what is needed then there is no reason to keep us for to long..9 June 2015 21:00
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sorry for loop
9 June 2015 19:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Am not hostile, just telling, that people use word science as it would be something that is superior to something that includes it already as spirituality and relgion, where science is one elementary part based on what things are build, but there is whole another level of scienceES that unfortunately, believers, deep believers of limited science... are unable to use, as their beliefs do not reach there.
It is near impossible human to be proper scientist in important matters, and same time not using psychedelics and try to oppose region, it is just simply impossible.
One can not be intelligent in Nature eye and be anty religious, eg thinking, that there is no higher societies besides humans.
But it is so much comfortable for humans to imagine, that when we interact with higher intelligence's (on these moments, when we get smart enough to do it) it is so more easy to say for them.. that we jsut made it up in our mind and it has no life behind it... as it would in their view remove entire order and school system.. as they not know.. that these all things here.. are planted by other species already... it is taken in to account.. and for reason only, that we would slowly build ourself a prison in where we MUST admit it and face it.. where we build a things that will shoot ourself if we fail to move forward..
It is kind of good to combine Antony De Mello (jesuit guy).. Allan Watts and Terrence Mackenna to get more balanced view.. even would add there Baashar alien channeler as well.. but in the end.. we still need a bible and a magic mushrooms and others where nature takes you then...
It is near impossible human to be proper scientist in important matters, and same time not using psychedelics and try to oppose region, it is just simply impossible.
One can not be intelligent in Nature eye and be anty religious, eg thinking, that there is no higher societies besides humans.
But it is so much comfortable for humans to imagine, that when we interact with higher intelligence's (on these moments, when we get smart enough to do it) it is so more easy to say for them.. that we jsut made it up in our mind and it has no life behind it... as it would in their view remove entire order and school system.. as they not know.. that these all things here.. are planted by other species already... it is taken in to account.. and for reason only, that we would slowly build ourself a prison in where we MUST admit it and face it.. where we build a things that will shoot ourself if we fail to move forward..
It is kind of good to combine Antony De Mello (jesuit guy).. Allan Watts and Terrence Mackenna to get more balanced view.. even would add there Baashar alien channeler as well.. but in the end.. we still need a bible and a magic mushrooms and others where nature takes you then...
9 June 2015 19:40
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
WHAT "science" ?
science of heart? science of soul? science of plants spirit world interaction political outcomes to humans in Nigeria?
science of psychedelics? science of time travel ? science of interacting with spirits? science of meditation? science of eating ? science of cacogenics, dysgenics? science of "politics" ? science of keeping science retarded? science of keeping lies alive? science of keeping illusionalive as science would be seperate part of religion? (science is just one small part of big things ... and big things use science.. but not the limited one in here.. based on beliefs that one needs to use special limitation method, like things have to be repeated etc, .. )... science of love?
science of heart? science of soul? science of plants spirit world interaction political outcomes to humans in Nigeria?
science of psychedelics? science of time travel ? science of interacting with spirits? science of meditation? science of eating ? science of cacogenics, dysgenics? science of "politics" ? science of keeping science retarded? science of keeping lies alive? science of keeping illusionalive as science would be seperate part of religion? (science is just one small part of big things ... and big things use science.. but not the limited one in here.. based on beliefs that one needs to use special limitation method, like things have to be repeated etc, .. )... science of love?
9 June 2015 19:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
for sure,will try that out when needed.
and yes, there IS better and worst, and there is Better and less good, am know Watts long time ago
And am not arguing just for entertainment but for explain truth to other person so our worlds can get better, not just mine, but someones at least, newer for just self good to get my self better, old times maybe.. it was to educate my self.. but that seems to selfish now.. not time for that.. once you know.. you just keep.. in direction of truth.
and yes, there IS better and worst, and there is Better and less good, am know Watts long time ago
And am not arguing just for entertainment but for explain truth to other person so our worlds can get better, not just mine, but someones at least, newer for just self good to get my self better, old times maybe.. it was to educate my self.. but that seems to selfish now.. not time for that.. once you know.. you just keep.. in direction of truth.
9 June 2015 19:22
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Take few flowers, few herbs, alive food.. and few pharmacy.. mostly dead energy pills from there..
crush them up.. .. now take few healthy dosages of LSD.. and another time mushrooms... now investigate these things.. and you will most likely see the difference.
then again, all of us do not see, some people in normal state see spirits of plants.. others even on mushrooms do not see.. so there is wast amount of difference between people abilities
BUt world should be defined by the highest seeyers, not by the lowest ones.. or ordinary ones.. but by the best, who see most,
crush them up.. .. now take few healthy dosages of LSD.. and another time mushrooms... now investigate these things.. and you will most likely see the difference.
then again, all of us do not see, some people in normal state see spirits of plants.. others even on mushrooms do not see.. so there is wast amount of difference between people abilities
BUt world should be defined by the highest seeyers, not by the lowest ones.. or ordinary ones.. but by the best, who see most,
9 June 2015 19:16
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Brian, you in most part comment smart way but,
"ludicrous argument, such bold blanket statements"
This is coming from You not from me, what come from me was plain truth as how it is, read my two comments.
And No, EVERY-THING does not produce chemicals, things that are made in to things already, do not take part of life cycle in active way by making new chemicals as their base function to be. Also WiFi does not produce chemicals. And diamonds. just example of many.
I am telling, it is FAST amount of difference, if it is alive or not alive, if food is commented to alive matter, a live spirit you can interact or is it dead or tortured leftover of plant parts, and often even not that.
I am not a child that am in arguments chemicals vs nature, but it should be fact that biology is by far superior branch of knowledge then chemist ever can be, even in any measurable amount.
We talking to situation where something is alive, so you can interact wit hit and pick up cures, that relate NOT from chemical interaction in a body, as ingesting a new substance.
"ludicrous argument, such bold blanket statements"
This is coming from You not from me, what come from me was plain truth as how it is, read my two comments.
And No, EVERY-THING does not produce chemicals, things that are made in to things already, do not take part of life cycle in active way by making new chemicals as their base function to be. Also WiFi does not produce chemicals. And diamonds. just example of many.
I am telling, it is FAST amount of difference, if it is alive or not alive, if food is commented to alive matter, a live spirit you can interact or is it dead or tortured leftover of plant parts, and often even not that.
I am not a child that am in arguments chemicals vs nature, but it should be fact that biology is by far superior branch of knowledge then chemist ever can be, even in any measurable amount.
We talking to situation where something is alive, so you can interact wit hit and pick up cures, that relate NOT from chemical interaction in a body, as ingesting a new substance.
9 June 2015 19:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
There is, it is called using region correct way. And this is just a fact. It is not just newer tried in proper way, but we getting there. Just some part of technology and education and beliefs was needed to evolved.
It is impossible not to succeed if used correct way. This is the point of it, but it is rare if person wants to be good enough, in so large scale.
Using religion right way means using everything right way from sex to food and thinking.
It is impossible not to succeed if used correct way. This is the point of it, but it is rare if person wants to be good enough, in so large scale.
Using religion right way means using everything right way from sex to food and thinking.
9 June 2015 19:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Eestimaa liblikad
Siin kiirliblikas, tsutsu sinakama läikega,aga ma seda teist versiooni kiirliblikastpole näinud, ehk ta sarnasem, kuid jah, see kolmnurk on teisipidi. Kiirliblika juhis polnud ka päris õige vist sest enamuste piltide peal ta niisarnane üldse ei ole, ainult (Imbi Ruber
2. juuni pildi peal, see tiiva alumine osa, on sarnaste valgete laikudega). EI pannud neid muid liblikaid siin tähele kui liblika nime järgi otsida
http://www.fugleognatur.dk/images/galleri/A.%20iris%2017.%20juli%202012%20N.J.Aa.-Andersen.jpg
http://www.miksike.ee/docs/referaadid2005/kiirgliblikas_evelin.jpghttp://www.fugleognatur.dk/images/galleri/A.%20iris%2017.%20juli%202012%20N.J.Aa.-Andersen.jpg
9 June 2015 11:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Eestimaa liblikad
kiirliblikas vist ei tundu, see kolmnurk on teistpidi .. ja tagumine (alumine) pool on ühe lainega keskpoole suunas sutsu lühemaks minev ...
Need plekit on samasugused valged nagu kollatähnil, et mitte ümmargused vaid ebamäärased
(peapool on üleval) see tiiva alune jõnks on üks pool korda kergem kuid samasuunaline kui mul arvutijoonistusel, ja tiivavälisküljed on muidugi täiesti veatult kumerad ja ilma sakita... kuigi eks ta elusana hoiab tiibu vast teistmoodi.)9 June 2015 11:14
Margus Meigo commented on Marika Lillepuu's post.
Group: Eestimaa liblikad
See nii ilus, et meil Eestis sellised inimesed, et ma pidin seda postitust koos tõlkega välismaalastega jagama, välja näidates, uhke armsusega, millesed Eestlased on , päris Eestlased : )8 June 2015 22:49
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's post.
You must be kidding me... what a way to advertise CoCola.. these guys newer run iout ideas of exploiting humans, do they..
8 June 2015 14:08
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's post.
Like a Boss! : ))
8 June 2015 12:05
Margus Meigo commented on Rudolf Makel's post.
Group: Real Free Speech-Hidden Truths&Historical Facts
Why they call it islamic when there is nothing Islamic about it? People should have some respect7 June 2015 21:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja.. nemodi soovitaks isaks hakata enamustel kes veel ei oska..
And so am would recommend You to become and start to be a father to
Am not sure, is that the dude who wrote it, but it is from hes site: http://popchassid.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/maxresdefault.jpg
And so am would recommend You to become and start to be a father to
Am not sure, is that the dude who wrote it, but it is from hes site: http://popchassid.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/maxresdefault.jpg
http://popchassid.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/maxresdefault.jpg
6 June 2015 21:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
When parents get silly (last part)
" There’s this thing I’ve realized that parents do: we like to impose our preconceived notions of reality on our children. We like to think that our judgments of society, all the “revolutionary” ideas we have, somehow apply to a pure being of light without the crap most of our own brains are filled with.
My daughter loves being a princess because she’s a girl, and because she recognizes the beauty of femininity. She loves being a princess because she doesn’t see a conflict between being a sweet, cute, gentle girl and being hardcore, strong, and confident.
Maybe society does see those as in conflict. Maybe I do too. Maybe that’s the problem.
My daughter, I think, has a much more balanced vision of what it means to be a woman than her lazy father ever could possibly have.
Now I just have to make sure I remember to stay out of the way and let her unfettered vision of true femininity blossom in the way it’s meant to. "
Ohh.. oli see hea või mis, on ju hea?
Was that good or is that Good?
" There’s this thing I’ve realized that parents do: we like to impose our preconceived notions of reality on our children. We like to think that our judgments of society, all the “revolutionary” ideas we have, somehow apply to a pure being of light without the crap most of our own brains are filled with.
My daughter loves being a princess because she’s a girl, and because she recognizes the beauty of femininity. She loves being a princess because she doesn’t see a conflict between being a sweet, cute, gentle girl and being hardcore, strong, and confident.
Maybe society does see those as in conflict. Maybe I do too. Maybe that’s the problem.
My daughter, I think, has a much more balanced vision of what it means to be a woman than her lazy father ever could possibly have.
Now I just have to make sure I remember to stay out of the way and let her unfettered vision of true femininity blossom in the way it’s meant to. "
Ohh.. oli see hea või mis, on ju hea?
Was that good or is that Good?
6 June 2015 21:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Now, to be clear, this isn’t just only some feminist agenda that bothered me. It was the fact that daughter really isn’t a princess. She’s hardcore. She has this strong energy, the energy of an “ayshis chayil”, a “woman of valor” who fights for her rights when she needs to, isn’t afraid to ask a child at the playground to come over sometime, who doesn’t exude that “me, me” attitude that I think of princess culture as possessing. The emptiness, the powerlessness.
I don’t see her as a princess. I didn’t, at least. It bothered that lazy father part of me that wasn’t going to stop her but who was making judgments and accusations in his brain.
I remember seeing pictures of her the day before at school, with all the other girls dressed as princesses. Is this who I had raised? This false image of femininity, one of powerlessness, in which the prince always comes to the rescue? No, it couldn’t be. "
"Then we took her to a megillah reading (the one where you yell at Hitler), at her child’s school. Men and women divided. On the men’s side, boys in cowboy outfits and knights and whatever else. The girls’ side: princesses as far as the eye could see. Bah.
When the megillah reading was over, I walked over to get food with my wife and daughters, and I watched this little girl, this little princess who had betrayed me and my ideals and her own personalty with her choices, and I had a beer and relaxed with the family a bit.
I watched her, that girl, because I love her, even as a princess, G-d I love her.
And something interesting happened. Up until now, all I saw were pictures. I didn’t see my girl in action in that costume, really. Now was my first taste.
She was giving out “shalach manos”, gifts of candy, to the other kids. She walked with this confident stride. This gait of strength. But she was feminine too. Walking like I wasn’t used to seeing her walking. With a little lightness to her step. A little gentleness. Something I’m not used to because of the hardcoreness she usually exhibits.
There was this thing happening, and through my beer-hazed mind it started to connect and grow a new understanding of what was happening with my little girl.
She was walking up to every kid with that same confidence she does in the museum when she invites over random kids to her home. Despite the stream of kids, parents, and psychotic version of both (high on candy or beer), she was not afraid, not holding back.
She was giving out that candy like a friggin’ boss.
But she was also gentle. She was also sweet. She was also a princess."
I don’t see her as a princess. I didn’t, at least. It bothered that lazy father part of me that wasn’t going to stop her but who was making judgments and accusations in his brain.
I remember seeing pictures of her the day before at school, with all the other girls dressed as princesses. Is this who I had raised? This false image of femininity, one of powerlessness, in which the prince always comes to the rescue? No, it couldn’t be. "
"Then we took her to a megillah reading (the one where you yell at Hitler), at her child’s school. Men and women divided. On the men’s side, boys in cowboy outfits and knights and whatever else. The girls’ side: princesses as far as the eye could see. Bah.
When the megillah reading was over, I walked over to get food with my wife and daughters, and I watched this little girl, this little princess who had betrayed me and my ideals and her own personalty with her choices, and I had a beer and relaxed with the family a bit.
I watched her, that girl, because I love her, even as a princess, G-d I love her.
And something interesting happened. Up until now, all I saw were pictures. I didn’t see my girl in action in that costume, really. Now was my first taste.
She was giving out “shalach manos”, gifts of candy, to the other kids. She walked with this confident stride. This gait of strength. But she was feminine too. Walking like I wasn’t used to seeing her walking. With a little lightness to her step. A little gentleness. Something I’m not used to because of the hardcoreness she usually exhibits.
There was this thing happening, and through my beer-hazed mind it started to connect and grow a new understanding of what was happening with my little girl.
She was walking up to every kid with that same confidence she does in the museum when she invites over random kids to her home. Despite the stream of kids, parents, and psychotic version of both (high on candy or beer), she was not afraid, not holding back.
She was giving out that candy like a friggin’ boss.
But she was also gentle. She was also sweet. She was also a princess."
6 June 2015 21:25
Margus Meigo replied to Ivo Jääger's comment.
tõsi, lugesin jah. Hea ka,
õnneks planerin ainult tagaistmel autos olla, parem ja targem ka kui olulised asjad peas või vaade ilus
õnneks planerin ainult tagaistmel autos olla, parem ja targem ka kui olulised asjad peas või vaade ilus
6 June 2015 20:43
Margus Meigo replied to Ivo Jääger's comment.
Just panin kuhja murulauku koos hapublikate, naadi ja võililledega pintsli.
Kuid jah.. sibula osas räägitakse india babade poolt, et vaimumaailmale see taim ei meeldi.. kuid eks ma ise veel tee lisa uuringuid selles osas, Eesti vaimud ehk karsemad
Kuid jah.. sibula osas räägitakse india babade poolt, et vaimumaailmale see taim ei meeldi.. kuid eks ma ise veel tee lisa uuringuid selles osas, Eesti vaimud ehk karsemad
6 June 2015 20:37
Margus Meigo replied to Ivo Jääger's comment.
ja kui oled sinnamaani jõudnud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuYf5AvFyms siis arvatvasti liiga palju ja võta hoogu maha, mõtle paar aastat, nagu tarkade asjade seedimisega ikka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuYf5AvFyms
6 June 2015 20:08
Margus Meigo replied to Ivo Jääger's comment.
Sulle soovitaks rohkem hallotsinogeene, kui mängukannide maailmas elad veel
6 June 2015 19:58
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
Nagu maavitsaliste põhine toit, suurem osa pole isegi viitsinud mõelda... et kas kartul ja tomat ikka on kasulikud toiduained.. valge suhkur.. või hoavad nad teatud uimas ja ligipääsus meid (arvestades, mis ülejäänud taimed samas perekonnas on)
Kuid kui pidevalt laksual olla, ega siis ei tunnegi, mis tasemel inimliigi suunas sõda ammu juba käib
palju muud elutut toitu meile antakse...mis hoiab elus aga vaimu ei toida... ehk kui Sul tunne pole, et targemaks oled saanud peale toitu.. siis mõtle,.. mis toit see oli selline...
Kuid kui pidevalt laksual olla, ega siis ei tunnegi, mis tasemel inimliigi suunas sõda ammu juba käib
palju muud elutut toitu meile antakse...mis hoiab elus aga vaimu ei toida... ehk kui Sul tunne pole, et targemaks oled saanud peale toitu.. siis mõtle,.. mis toit see oli selline...
6 June 2015 18:53
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
Eks metallsed lasurelvad ole mängukannid nagunii, inim mängukannid.
Tehnloogiad millega hoitakse masse tegemas mida vaja ja uskumas mida vaja: toit, eelarvamused, õppeprogramm (kus suunatakse ajusse ainult teatud hulk võimalusi "Kuidas võimalik on")... lisaks veel igast mängukannid millega masside ajulained saab depresiivsemaks või positiivsemaks viia ja siis kombinatsioonis süstitud uudistega mida saab tekitada, lamba kari etteaimatud moodi toimetama hakkab, ja lambakari mitte solvanguna, vaid lihtsalt, karilooma asjana..
Muidugi kõiki erinevaid ühiskonnakihte nüüd nii lihtne ka jooksma pole panna.. kuid eks see olegi, suur töö, inimõistuse väline
Tehnloogiad millega hoitakse masse tegemas mida vaja ja uskumas mida vaja: toit, eelarvamused, õppeprogramm (kus suunatakse ajusse ainult teatud hulk võimalusi "Kuidas võimalik on")... lisaks veel igast mängukannid millega masside ajulained saab depresiivsemaks või positiivsemaks viia ja siis kombinatsioonis süstitud uudistega mida saab tekitada, lamba kari etteaimatud moodi toimetama hakkab, ja lambakari mitte solvanguna, vaid lihtsalt, karilooma asjana..
Muidugi kõiki erinevaid ühiskonnakihte nüüd nii lihtne ka jooksma pole panna.. kuid eks see olegi, suur töö, inimõistuse väline
6 June 2015 18:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Same-Same
6 June 2015 17:16
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek J's photo.
Kes tema on kes tema on
6 June 2015 15:39
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
alles siis saavad Eestlased ennast vabaks kui pühakirjad ausees olema hakkavad (ei räägi isegi sunduslikust maarendist, sest siiani keegi osta omale maad ei saa, saad õiguse selle pealt maksu maksta iga aasta ja seda kasutada kuni lubatakse, kasutada nii kuidas lubatakse ja ehitada siis ja kuidas ja nii, nagu lubatakse mitte nagu ise soovid, oma maal..).
Seni kuni ei mõisteta pühakirjasi, naerdakse juudi tarkuste üle nagu arulagedate kamp nii et häbi hakkab... seni ei tule ka taime ja loodus tarkused me teadmistesse .. ning jookseme igasuguste normide ja standarditega kaasa milel pole midagi pistmist looduse, jumala või inimeste vahelise suhte parandamise osas, alates perest.
Seni kuni ei mõisteta pühakirjasi, naerdakse juudi tarkuste üle nagu arulagedate kamp nii et häbi hakkab... seni ei tule ka taime ja loodus tarkused me teadmistesse .. ning jookseme igasuguste normide ja standarditega kaasa milel pole midagi pistmist looduse, jumala või inimeste vahelise suhte parandamise osas, alates perest.
6 June 2015 15:37
Margus Meigo commented on Tiina Urm's post.
Läbi loetud need artiklid ja lisad, katastroofiliselt weel hullem pläma ja veel tühjem tekst kui oleks osanud oodata, tõesti kurb, et MIT on nii madalale arulageduses langenud, et lubanud sellistel lipsudel enda nimel rääkida, puhas kommunism.
http://digital.mit.edu/openletter/pprecommendations.html
http://digital.mit.edu/openletter/researchagenda.html
Täpselt sellised sõnastused, mis on tühjad nagu digitaalne ajastu kui elekter välja võtta.
Ja muidugi, maailma rikkamaid maid, mis kulutab TRILLIONITES, TRILLIONITES hävitus ja sõjatehnoloogiatele, kordades rohkem kui ülejäänud planeet kokku, neil nii oluline :
"First, we recommend a set of basic public policy changes in the areas of education, infrastructure, entrepreneurship, trade, immigration, and research. There’s a strong consensus that these can quickly improve America’s economy and the well-being of its workforce"
KUS on need soovitused siis ? Minigi tühi mula mida iga laps oskab väljamõelda kes sellised sõnad ära õppinud, kuid kas nad PÄRISELT teavad milliseid muudatusi ja MIKS on sellele inimliigile vaja ja sellises ajas, sellises kultuuris, et sellisese suunda läheks nagu vaja et ülejäänud maade nende vajaduste põhised arengud ilusti jõuaks rahumeelselt areneda, üksteist toetavalt. Ilma, et õigetest tarkustest üle sõidaks oma ümbusega lääne haridus (ehk Greeka-Rooma oma, ehk üks madalaima astme üld haridus mis planeedi ajastus olnud, üks kasutuimaid kui teha kulutuste ja kasu indeks kuidas see päriselt aitab inimestel looduses ellu jääda ning aru saada erinevatest vaimutasanditest)
KUid väga õnnelik olen ikkagi, et selliselt muidu austatud kohalt.. MIT leiab midagi nii kommunistliku.. selle kindlasti salvestan oma varamusse
http://digital.mit.edu/openletter/pprecommendations.html
http://digital.mit.edu/openletter/researchagenda.html
Täpselt sellised sõnastused, mis on tühjad nagu digitaalne ajastu kui elekter välja võtta.
Ja muidugi, maailma rikkamaid maid, mis kulutab TRILLIONITES, TRILLIONITES hävitus ja sõjatehnoloogiatele, kordades rohkem kui ülejäänud planeet kokku, neil nii oluline :
"First, we recommend a set of basic public policy changes in the areas of education, infrastructure, entrepreneurship, trade, immigration, and research. There’s a strong consensus that these can quickly improve America’s economy and the well-being of its workforce"
KUS on need soovitused siis ? Minigi tühi mula mida iga laps oskab väljamõelda kes sellised sõnad ära õppinud, kuid kas nad PÄRISELT teavad milliseid muudatusi ja MIKS on sellele inimliigile vaja ja sellises ajas, sellises kultuuris, et sellisese suunda läheks nagu vaja et ülejäänud maade nende vajaduste põhised arengud ilusti jõuaks rahumeelselt areneda, üksteist toetavalt. Ilma, et õigetest tarkustest üle sõidaks oma ümbusega lääne haridus (ehk Greeka-Rooma oma, ehk üks madalaima astme üld haridus mis planeedi ajastus olnud, üks kasutuimaid kui teha kulutuste ja kasu indeks kuidas see päriselt aitab inimestel looduses ellu jääda ning aru saada erinevatest vaimutasanditest)
KUid väga õnnelik olen ikkagi, et selliselt muidu austatud kohalt.. MIT leiab midagi nii kommunistliku.. selle kindlasti salvestan oma varamusse
http://digital.mit.edu/openletter/pprecommendations.html
6 June 2015 12:08
Margus Meigo commented on Tiina Urm's post.
6 June 2015 11:22
Margus Meigo commented on Tiina Urm's post.
all these words are useless: unprecedented, tools , growth, productivity, wealth, prosperity, policies, organizations, opportunities, challenges
AND taking in to account that THIS words are used, we can assume safely, also the meaning of These words to be baseless:
revolution, improving, world, society, research
So what we are left with is " the digital is delivering an set of tools for bolstering and creating and the.. But we can create a only if we update our to seize the address the give rise to "..
So basically it is pure digital, baseless, combination of words that look like is told a lot but in reality Nothing is told, at all.
No particle of LIFE, no instruction of HOW is needed WHAT ... just punch of big sounding words.. this kind of alien big mouths just want to make me crab and shake someone, and am really calm person.
I have to save this sentence he made.. it is like and art.. to mix so much of nothing in to one line and make it sound like so much. Amazing.
Well, if it would be religious person or Natural human who talks this same sentence... then it would make sentence as we can fill in the blanks, right now ... but right now anyone reading can imagine their own reason and version behind a words "what kind of organizations" and "what kind of prosperity for whose organizations etc..."
But now i go and read article as well to see if there is some sense in it... do they talk about strawberries and the mushrooms and importance of touching your partner or it is all one assumed "world" of androids.
AND taking in to account that THIS words are used, we can assume safely, also the meaning of These words to be baseless:
revolution, improving, world, society, research
So what we are left with is " the digital is delivering an set of tools for bolstering and creating and the.. But we can create a only if we update our to seize the address the give rise to "..
So basically it is pure digital, baseless, combination of words that look like is told a lot but in reality Nothing is told, at all.
No particle of LIFE, no instruction of HOW is needed WHAT ... just punch of big sounding words.. this kind of alien big mouths just want to make me crab and shake someone, and am really calm person.
I have to save this sentence he made.. it is like and art.. to mix so much of nothing in to one line and make it sound like so much. Amazing.
Well, if it would be religious person or Natural human who talks this same sentence... then it would make sentence as we can fill in the blanks, right now ... but right now anyone reading can imagine their own reason and version behind a words "what kind of organizations" and "what kind of prosperity for whose organizations etc..."
But now i go and read article as well to see if there is some sense in it... do they talk about strawberries and the mushrooms and importance of touching your partner or it is all one assumed "world" of androids.
6 June 2015 11:19
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
Nu jah, ootan huviga ka aegu, kui ausalt jugetakse selgitada miks
koos selgitustega, kes on "teisel pool" kes neid agendasi ajanud
aastatuhandeid
koos selgitustega, kes on "teisel pool" kes neid agendasi ajanud
aastatuhandeid
6 June 2015 11:03
Margus Meigo commented on Charity Donation's photo.
If You do lie about it.. then some of us will get to know what hell is, that is for sure, i tell you,
Just telling
Just telling
4 June 2015 21:20
Margus Meigo commented on Berit Masso's post.
Seostada saab muidugi igatühte millega iganes...
kuid jah, ei kometaari
kuid jah, ei kometaari
4 June 2015 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Krumholts's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ikka jumal, ikka looja on see kes kõike seda teeb4 June 2015 11:52
Margus Meigo commented on Assar Järvekülg's post.
Group: Ei võõrvägede kohalolekule Eestis
peale seda kui näha oli mis moodi wikileaks valib mida ja kuidas ta avalikuks teeb, on selge, et kelle huve sellised " paljastused " teenivad.
Punastel (kes tegelikult ju Greekaline Rooma Impeeriumi ja Wiikingite Liit tumedate maailmadega) on 24/7 plaan kogu inimrass orjastada ja likivdeerida kõik teised kultuurid ja loodus osad mida kontrollida ei saa või millest aru ei saa.. ja seda ei näi keegi paljastavat, .... vb sest materjal läheks nii pikaks, et keegi ei jõuaks lugeda.. pealegi ebatõenäone fantaasia on parem kui karm reaalsus milles ise elad ja mille halvemaks tegemisele ise kaasa aidanud...
sest ei saa rääkida tõest ilma usuta, kui inimesed teooriat uskuda soovivad, et siin ainult inimesed toimetavad... siis nad ei saagi midagi nägema ega tegema oma endaja teiste päästmisesk3 June 2015 16:55
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Uute Poliitikute Kool
peale seda kui näha oli mis modi wikileaks valib midaja kuidas ta avalikuks teeb, on selge, et kelle huve sellised " paljastused " teenivad.
Punastel on 24/7 plaan kogu inimrass orjastada ja likivdeerida kõik teised kultuurid ja loodus osad mida kontrollida ei saa või millest aru ei saa.. ja seda ei näi keegi paljastavat, .... vb sest materjal läheks nii pikaks, et keegi ei jõuaks lugeda.. pealegi ebatõenäone fantaasia on parem kui karm reaalsus milles ise elad ja mille halvemaks tegemisele ise kaasa aidanud...
sest ei saa rääkida tõest ilma usuta, kui inimesed teooriat uskuda soovivad, et siin ainult inimesed toimetavad... siis nad ei saagi midagi nägema ega tegema oma endaja teiste päästmisesk3 June 2015 16:53
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's post.
There is special dais long ritual killing for bear even if it is for self protection, that needs to be performed to get soul calmed... as well.. they will meet again.. lets see the smile then..
3 June 2015 16:48
Margus Meigo commented on Jevgeni Krishtafovitsh's post.
At least is good that the rainbow reminds the agreement between God and Man
3 June 2015 16:46
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
compassionate conservatism is called "Christianity" and Jewish is proper sense.
(minus the retardants of Martin Luther etc, not to include them as proper religions ones.. t)
(minus the retardants of Martin Luther etc, not to include them as proper religions ones.. t)
3 June 2015 16:42
Margus Meigo commented on Nur Natasya's photo.
And to be relgious
3 June 2015 16:37
Margus Meigo commented on Nur Natasya's post.
it is a drug, so treat it as a drug, with respect and caution, only in extreme need,and know.. when god make you feel sleepy, usually that means you need to rest. You always have more right then a Man who tells you you must work.
If you want to test, how strong of the drug it is, try not to drink 3-4 weeks and then drink 3-4 strong cups all in one go... and you will see what happens. it really bad what happens.
If you want to test, how strong of the drug it is, try not to drink 3-4 weeks and then drink 3-4 strong cups all in one go... and you will see what happens. it really bad what happens.
3 June 2015 16:36
Margus Meigo commented on Nur Natasya's post.
But cafe and sugar keeps us working in things that does not need heart or feelings (in fact they stop a heart and feeling, making soul drunk and dirty ). Shamans say,before spiritual journey to heal your knowledge about world, one needs to stay away from cafe at LEAST 3 weeks, this is how dirty it is. Sugar in soul acts like alcohol .. look the chemical reactions it makes in body and brain as well.. and you see it behaves as addictive as well..
So please, come off these bad things, it will make as so weak we unable to activate energy with out it, makes us slave. For some people it might take years to clean from it.
If You need, just take clean cafe powder and jam and eat half a spoon clean, no need to make drink of it and fool yourself as it is a "drink"
So please, come off these bad things, it will make as so weak we unable to activate energy with out it, makes us slave. For some people it might take years to clean from it.
If You need, just take clean cafe powder and jam and eat half a spoon clean, no need to make drink of it and fool yourself as it is a "drink"
3 June 2015 16:33
Margus Meigo commented on Nur Natasya's post.
Cafe is a drug, like cocaine, amphetamine etc, it is just made legal so slaves can be kept at work safely (as it does not rise spiritual aspects of people as some other drugs). It is a strong drug, but taking it a lot little by little we do not notice it.
Specially dangerous makes this drug as loads of people ad to it another poison, white chemical sugar (not the real sugar from fruit or corn but the chemical one, that is really harmful and with no special taste if you eat it clean.. you will see how bad it is.).
It is called "white death" in some cultures, longtime ago.
Specially dangerous makes this drug as loads of people ad to it another poison, white chemical sugar (not the real sugar from fruit or corn but the chemical one, that is really harmful and with no special taste if you eat it clean.. you will see how bad it is.).
It is called "white death" in some cultures, longtime ago.
3 June 2015 16:33
Margus Meigo commented on Balram Kapoor's post.
Group: Spiritual Dating
Yes, first people a bit stupid to show off things like that, they should do it alone if they really for it, and it is specially retarded to remove someone to have erection... but then again... i guess they do try to make us sexually retarded showing that there is no sexual reaction to naked body.. so there is no holy feelings for out temple.. and when there is real people among it i guess they yes... want to remove it ..3 June 2015 16:06
Margus Meigo commented on Balram Kapoor's post.
Group: Spiritual Dating
Its in the head, and in the food, and people who use alcohol or smoke should be banned from sex. As it is destructive to spiritual realm.
People need need to use more magic mushrooms to start to see things3 June 2015 16:03
Margus Meigo commented on Balram Kapoor's post.
Group: Spiritual Dating
people become sexually retarded, almost 1/4 th using sex machines as human is so retarded sexually and minds are so perverted and the "spokesman" says:
The spokesman said: “It’s fantastic to see that adults across the UK are becoming more adventurous and having fun with their sex lives.3 June 2015 16:00
Margus Meigo commented on Balram Kapoor's post.
Group: Spiritual Dating
"'doggy style'." that shows man has become full retarded and women lack any kind of respect or hope for love.
This is a stile for a man who cares lite really who are they doing, this is not for love making, but for man low level pleasure easing, and for women to tweet same time...
real lovers want as much body contact as possible, not as little as possible (there is least amount of a body and love contact in doggy... simple as that...)3 June 2015 15:58
Margus Meigo commented on Balram Kapoor's post.
Group: Spiritual Dating
none of the others help person to reach the nirvana and space-less room with full love, this is how we are built, why make or mind more low level with all kind of "positions" ?3 June 2015 15:55
Margus Meigo commented on Balram Kapoor's post.
Group: Spiritual Dating
there is in truth, only ONE position , the correct one.3 June 2015 15:54
Margus Meigo commented on Balram Kapoor's post.
3 June 2015 15:53
Margus Meigo commented on Balram Kapoor's post.
Group: Spiritual Dating
(or from end to beginning, how ever u like, time is optional, kind of )3 June 2015 15:48
Margus Meigo commented on Balram Kapoor's post.
Group: Spiritual Dating
And in some things (for some things) there is not like: "everyone of their own" some beliefs and truths are universal to all, to accept if they want to be good in largest name
and there is one god that relates to humans highest goals, everything else is another levels of beings and structures, that can not be mistaken by the real meaning of Earthly God that is the sum of all activity reasons and beginning to end3 June 2015 15:46
Margus Meigo commented on Balram Kapoor's post.
Group: Spiritual Dating
But in india.. they people sometimes try to falsely (are tricked to by rulers) believe same as some in West ,that all we get we deserve and all was our own soul agreement to get it.. just to let you know people: No it is not like that.
There is Bad and they do things to us what we do not want, and sometimes is someone not protected .. it IS our job to clean up other people life and tel them how they must life or the would will not grow up if we lack basic trust that we know right and want to get better in return.3 June 2015 15:45
Margus Meigo commented on John Turmel's post.
What is kickstarter campaign for sugar?
Why d these websites do like that, say things but give no links ?
Why d these websites do like that, say things but give no links ?
3 June 2015 15:40
Margus Meigo commented on John Turmel's post.
I have been telling all along Queen is Good:
"Even Queen Elizabeth College reneged on a promise to allow the professor to use its research facilities when he retired in 1970 (to write Pure, White and Deadly).
Read More At http://www.getholistichealth.com/39588/the-man-who-tried-to-warn-us-about-sugar-in-1972-was-suppressed/"
"Even Queen Elizabeth College reneged on a promise to allow the professor to use its research facilities when he retired in 1970 (to write Pure, White and Deadly).
Read More At http://www.getholistichealth.com/39588/the-man-who-tried-to-warn-us-about-sugar-in-1972-was-suppressed/"
http://www.getholistichealth.com/39588/the-man-who-tried-to-warn-us-about-sugar-in-1972-was-suppressed/
3 June 2015 15:37
Margus Meigo commented on John Turmel's post.
Only time when sugar is excused to eat at best, is when there is LSD dropped on it
3 June 2015 15:32
Margus Meigo commented on John Turmel's post.
well, long before that research , we Estonians old times just called sugar "White Death" so it should have been clear to most.. but new generations is a bit retarded on it and not able to see the connection between spiritual underdevelopment and sugar usage that makes soul drunk (vulnerable) as well besides damage of body
3 June 2015 15:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
Njaa.. remember that : )
He is a bit gay but still alright in heart3 June 2015 12:06
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
Russ is doing same here with NATO.. fly in purpose in out airspace and doing same whit submarines... more then 20 times last years.... to keep worry and other sides of or-welly to run..
3 June 2015 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on Sophia Douvrís's photo.
Can You imagine world with fathers and children like that.. : )
3 June 2015 02:22
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
better to teach and help and teach ur opponent publicly to be better.. as they just might be ur partner in another realm
3 June 2015 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
we newer shall be fighting against, and specially when nearly majority of fighters care or dream not to imagine what (it) is frighted whit
with youth who lost respect to bible is little to do in big trusted line of work ... but then again,,we should, to show example..
with youth who lost respect to bible is little to do in big trusted line of work ... but then again,,we should, to show example..
3 June 2015 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
there is MUCH more cheaper and effective way to conduct series of inpact giving research with LSD in a way it had to be accepted.... only thing we need is an Alice... or at least trusted large source
3 June 2015 01:51
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
3 June 2015 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
just to clearfy china is the one owning access links to world SIWT bank code systems and if they want can kind of shut off internatinal banking we heard in our village... besides they in team with BRICKs..and communist old propaganda is nearly always reverced
3 June 2015 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
not really good label to ad jurself hahaha .... i vanna hear proper...
3 June 2015 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ühendkooridega
2 June 2015 10:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuidagi veidrat moodi hästi sobib siia Siirisi sisaski esituse MIs Maa See on siia otsa..
2 June 2015 10:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"A butterfly flies through the forest rain
And turns the wind into ahurricane
I know that it will happen
Cause I believe in the certainty of chance
A schoolboy yawns, sits back and hits return
While round the world computers crash and burn
I know that it will happen
Cause I believe in the certainty of chance
And I believe
I can see it all so clearly now
You must go and I must set you free
Cause only that will bring you back to me
I know that it will happen
I'm sure that it must happen
Oh I know that it's gonna happen
Because I believe in the certainty of chance"
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=The+Certainty+of+Chance+divine
And turns the wind into ahurricane
I know that it will happen
Cause I believe in the certainty of chance
A schoolboy yawns, sits back and hits return
While round the world computers crash and burn
I know that it will happen
Cause I believe in the certainty of chance
And I believe
I can see it all so clearly now
You must go and I must set you free
Cause only that will bring you back to me
I know that it will happen
I'm sure that it must happen
Oh I know that it's gonna happen
Because I believe in the certainty of chance"
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=The+Certainty+of+Chance+divine
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=The+Certainty+of+Chance+divine
2 June 2015 10:04
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Killo's photo.
ei hakka poomaometi
1 June 2015 23:10
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
wonder if there will be TV show also from the hobo feeds they produced?
1 June 2015 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
start with the cams and mics in walls, then a lot
1 June 2015 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Tõnismäe's post.
Group: Rahva antikvariaat
Wau : )31 May 2015 16:57
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
I can still see you!
31 May 2015 16:15
Margus Meigo commented on Olly Siochana's post.
Oh it was one of the .com domain addresses that was first accessing the visitor on that link.. might be just some hijacked ad networks sometimes, to sniff out all your data and passes that you are logged in to or saved in browser ever
its normal for criminals and agencies to do it in these kind of pages
nothing much to worry about but hope for the best, all there can we do will be done... but there will be some extra layer of solutions i thought out thanks to this
its normal for criminals and agencies to do it in these kind of pages
nothing much to worry about but hope for the best, all there can we do will be done... but there will be some extra layer of solutions i thought out thanks to this
30 May 2015 14:54
Margus Meigo commented on Olly Siochana's post.
lets hope that's for real.
some strange w0ri4r domain was linked to that address as well, have you noticed?
some strange w0ri4r domain was linked to that address as well, have you noticed?
30 May 2015 09:34
Margus Meigo commented on Izzi Creo's post.
Group: Womanism & Solidarity: seeking to decolonize feminism with all sisters
just make sure character is not trapped in to all of our own mistakes, like smoking, drinking... as we got to much that around and it makes human cheap or weak minded in eyes of cleaner people
... closing some doors we do not need opens whole great amount new ones..
i also recommend to make few magic mushroom (psychedelics only) like experiences (few small and one big one) to expand the limits and see more clear the potentials, the power of story26 May 2015 10:07
Margus Meigo commented on Rain Aliza Scher's post.
Group: Womanism & Solidarity: seeking to decolonize feminism with all sisters
try to make topless protest to close a road in Ghana26 May 2015 10:00
Margus Meigo commented on Izzi Creo's post.
Group: Womanism & Solidarity: seeking to decolonize feminism with all sisters
just important is to have a soul, moral code with high reaching goals to not get lost in stream of adventure just for sake of it... every story should have a purpose... you know... to make world sift in to better, kids and apples loving direction,
that separates just a stories from a Real Story, that lasts a century and more, forever26 May 2015 09:59
Margus Meigo commented on Beck Dalton's post.
Group: cDc Ninja Strike Force
you meant irreversible
development25 May 2015 23:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: cDc Ninja Strike Force
it totally related to dental hygiene, you know the interview part in there...
So that's why..(1h.30m.42 sec)
But it is sad, 1.4 GB and they convert it to 300 mb as only format, why would anyone do it...25 May 2015 23:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=+Isaiah+32%3A2&version=CJB;OJB
But this ma wil not know jet..
But this ma wil not know jet..
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=+Isaiah+32%3A2&version=CJB%3BOJB
24 May 2015 23:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+12%3A4&version=CJB;OJB
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+12%3A4&version=CJB%3BOJB
24 May 2015 23:05
Margus Meigo commented on Zorica Mezzano's post.
Group: ENLIGHTENED PLANET
Sad thing is that cows who have so high godly love energy intelligence have to work with some low level human innovation, so humans would start to think that "hey they also intelligent.."
great video bdw24 May 2015 21:53
Margus Meigo commented on Craig Moore's post.
Group: ENLIGHTENED PLANET
Elementary, as shaving is barbaric and eliminates spiritual strength and many senses of the mind, only for simple barbaric killing machines does not need beard or long hair or some other more simple analytical jobs24 May 2015 21:49
Margus Meigo commented on Magda Oljejor's post.
Group: Feminism in London
If we want to be critical on women in this post then this should sound like that:
"it is women fault for still living together with a husband who does not know what sex is and what is rape"
and it is women fault (first his mother then wife) for failing to educate man about sex life and love before allowing him to a bed. Most normal man should naturally "get it" but some more retarded ones need deep and careful training and explaining, serious one. ANY women who fails to do it and lets man finish "hes job" before he is perfect, does disfavor for entire human species, as this is REALLY bad programming for man brain and he then first keeps searching the "simpleminded women" and later on starts to force it on, thinking this is the way.. as he got it that way before..
Every man should be deeply thankful for any teachings women share about sex and if man acts like pricks or undeveloped teenager after sharing instructions with love.. then harder words must be used. Earlier the better
This is barbaric, what is wrong with a women who stands up with it we might ask? Does She lack religions education to know, that sex is ONLY women's right and have been like that from the beginning of time, one of the tasks for man is to learn what, how and when women wants emotionally and in all other ways, this is ABC of basic Jewish region .. how can have people show low understanding about their own sexual organs and self, and life.. that we still allow these kind of man to have any kind of sex at all, so that there can, on 21 century still have news-article headlines like "is a man selfish for abusing a wife..."
in what kind of deep trance is this world living in ?24 May 2015 21:47
Margus Meigo commented on Michael Kore's post.
Group: cDc Ninja Strike Force
people get payd for making first of all the dildos and for second making picture of burning dildo.. and then there is people starving and we tell them: "you must get education, or you will not accomplish anything in your life..."24 May 2015 21:33
Margus Meigo commented on Hillar Kohv's post.
Group: Innele Inimelude Partei .
kui kolli eest jooksma jääda siis jäätki jooksma24 May 2015 21:31
Margus Meigo commented on Hillar Kohv's post.
Group: Innele Inimelude Partei .
Eestit pole siin midagi hävitatud sellega, sest ega tema tegi mis tundis, et on vaja-.. ta lihtsalt ei teadnud, et me idamaa rahvas tegelikult,
venealad kuuluvad meile ju24 May 2015 21:31
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Leberecht's post.
Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
teinud selliseid, banaani kasutatakse tavaliselt küll muna asemel, kuid eks ta hea ole kui koos ka on.
Ma nüüd ainult veest ja nisujahust, ilma ühegi lisata olen tegema hakanud, siis moosi peale ja sobib ka..
(kuna proovin loobuda, soolast, suhkrust, piimast, koorest, munast... siis palju muud järgi ei jää)24 May 2015 21:08
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
It is pretty big difference also, if the drug is alive or not,
and if it is made for reasons of close up people minds or offer them "semi help" just enough to keep them away from realizations of plants and spirits,
plants also produce chemicals, its their job.
and if it is made for reasons of close up people minds or offer them "semi help" just enough to keep them away from realizations of plants and spirits,
plants also produce chemicals, its their job.
22 May 2015 18:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
You should always first start with natural, what Nature has made and what is proved to work,
not experience or something that only reason it is on SALE that some ones try to make nature illegal and they are literally, in war with nature.
And oh, it has nothing to do with natural vs not natural, it was doing something as "sure dangerous bad chemicals" vs. "something that helps for sure"
not experience or something that only reason it is on SALE that some ones try to make nature illegal and they are literally, in war with nature.
And oh, it has nothing to do with natural vs not natural, it was doing something as "sure dangerous bad chemicals" vs. "something that helps for sure"
22 May 2015 18:50
Margus Meigo commented on Brian Stephen Danzyger's post.
Make sure to share names of drug and mixes on drugs-forums.com and hippy forums, saving some life and informing us about experience and wisdom you bring back to us here, this is only reason you back here.. the share wisdom with proper ones and accelerate on it (starting with a old wise women's.. would be good bet, to see if this experiences are any use to their databank )
22 May 2015 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on Brian Stephen Danzyger's post.
What was you as a smart person doing on antidepressants anyway?
Is nature not wide enough of all plants for all cures ?
Is nature not wide enough of all plants for all cures ?
22 May 2015 18:44
Margus Meigo commented on Brian Stephen Danzyger's post.
as love
22 May 2015 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on Brian Stephen Danzyger's post.
sure.. soon they might even discover that information is in the air...
22 May 2015 18:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More you read about these "pagan times.." more becomes clear about the control of thought and words.. about past
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasi%27
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasi%27
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasi%27
22 May 2015 00:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
+ http://katz.sas.upenn.edu/
http://katz.sas.upenn.edu/
22 May 2015 00:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Need laulu tseenid kus nad kasette esitlesid (neid erinevaid laulu tseene 3, sh. Irish drinking songs)
Nalja lisa oli veel, et see ABC Family pealt tuli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-GbYeAz8qk
Nalja lisa oli veel, et see ABC Family pealt tuli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-GbYeAz8qk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-GbYeAz8qk
22 May 2015 00:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui midagi sellist teha, siis oleks võinud vähemalt algsest saatest aru saada
litsensitasu maksate nagunii samamoodi, kuid siis oleks vähemalt väärtust asjal
Nagu kus inimesed ise saates saavad osaleda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l84-zmOs_kM
litsensitasu maksate nagunii samamoodi, kuid siis oleks vähemalt väärtust asjal
Nagu kus inimesed ise saates saavad osaleda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l84-zmOs_kM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l84-zmOs_kM
22 May 2015 00:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I have been waiting longer Larsen ... : )
sometimes am take that in t account
sometimes am take that in t account
21 May 2015 03:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
THis guy looks like Toomas Hendrik Ilves - as politically correct as well :P
20 May 2015 05:43
Margus Meigo commented on Kaie Rang's post.
Group: Tutvus
Hmm peaks ka viljandisse kolima : )20 May 2015 02:48
Margus Meigo commented on Kadli-Mai Koppen's post.
Group: Otsid uusi tutvusi?
Mis siis sedasi,. ise nii kena ja jääb kõik pildi taha peitu..20 May 2015 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on Viktorija Arent's post.
Group: Otsid uusi tutvusi?
Vaat ku iarmsaid ja hoolega siiraid tutvumispilte nooruses veel inimesed teha hoolivad : )20 May 2015 02:33
Margus Meigo commented on Zxz Gaidar Xaver's post.
Group: Otsid uusi tutvusi?
endal pole siis v20 May 2015 02:32
Margus Meigo commented on Regina Nilbe's post.
Group: Otsid uusi tutvusi?
Oih, kui Sa vanust poleks pannud juurde, siis ma oleks arvanud,et me täitsa asjakohased tutvuma20 May 2015 02:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yoYo
http://i2.tagstat.com/p1/0/A7j7lFRagO3FLdrRODtjgWZtTQVRJRwcKBeczFjY8k4=.jpg
http://i2.tagstat.com/p1/0/A7j7lFRagO3FLdrRODtjgWZtTQVRJRwcKBeczFjY8k4=.jpg
http://i2.tagstat.com/p1/0/A7j7lFRagO3FLdrRODtjgWZtTQVRJRwcKBeczFjY8k4=.jpg
20 May 2015 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Leberecht's post.
Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
Minuarust see ikkagi väga tagasihoidlik ja suht nõrk kirjutis selle kõrval, mis tegelik olukord on.
VÄga hõre.. mingid numbrid.. aga mitte selgitust MIKS nad vägistavad ja mis jõud selle taga on, mis jõud inimeste siia importimise taga on ja MIKS nad seda teevad ... et elementaarseid asju võiks ikka rääkida, ka usklikust maailmavaatest vaadatuna.. muidu mingi .. suht hõre värk.
Organiseeritud geenide madalamale arengule viimine käib, et saaks inimliike kontrollida, vägistamisi on üks eel programeeritud sõja vorme, kuid kui nüüd ütleksin, et miks ja kes... siis peaksin sõnu veel otsima... lootsin lhtsalt, et targemad oskaksid need sõnad juba ritta panna..
asi on palju palju tõsisem ja mustem kui sellest artiklist näha.. väga palju hullem,
nii hull, et suurem osa rassiste ise ka ei julgeks mõelda, et nii hull on üldse võimalik olla, sest see võtaks neid oma usuvabast mugavustsoonist välja ning sunniks maailma peale inimliigi veel palju laiemalt vaatama, aru saama, et kõik pole inimesed kes kahel jalal... ning ammugi pole kõik kes muud värvi madalama arenguga või hingeliste väärtustega kui enamus siinsed "valged..."19 May 2015 12:47
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Leberecht's post.
Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
Oot kes tal seljataga on ?19 May 2015 12:25
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Leberecht's post.
Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
Vähe sellest, et sõi: sõi tervislikult, taime toitu
Tgegi maailma esimese suurema seadustiku modernses ajas loomade kaitseks ning manitses suitsetamise, laaberdamise ja joomise vastu
(päriselt manitses, mitte manipulatsiooniga võlts alko vastasus kui puna riigis )
Muidugi vaene Aadu ise ei adunud vist, et kui suured jõud juba kui ammu neid mänge mänginud on ja mis kaardid just tema jaoks ette valmistanud (s.h. Usu kaardid Juudi vastu läbi tegeliku usu vastase Marthin Lutheri ideoloogia kes Kreeka-Roomalstega, habemeajajatega, suguluspundis ) ... seega jah... see see kirstunael tal oli minu ajutise analüüsi põhjal, et ta suunati koos kõige muuga just nende vastu kele poolt oleks pidanud olema.
Ta oleks pidanud tegelema kõige sellega mis tegi + juudi rahava kaitsmisega tolla usu puhastamise osas, mitte tehes JUST seda mida Rooma Gey-sririik soovis: juudi usu hävitamine, millega Kreeklased,Roomlased paarituhande aasta jooksul polnud hakkama saanud19 May 2015 12:23
Margus Meigo commented on Margus Reemets's post.
Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
Veneajalugu peaks aga käsitlema viimase 1200 aasta piirest alates, sest ega mingit riigi ajalugu enne seda polnudki selles kohas peale paari pätijõugu kes loodusrahvaid rüüstas .. kuid jah, kõige kindlamalt on teada, Venemaa algus kui kahe suure pätijõugu koostööl: Skandinaavia Huligaanid Viikingid ja Bütsandi Gey-sririigi Greeka-Roomlaste liit.... seega võtku oma juured kenasti vastu...
Eks nad võivad ennast ka siduda Lusatianlastega kes olid selle ala juures miskid inimsõõjate jõuk kunagi poola ja Ukraina vahel kui soovivad.. kuigi, eks selle aja feministiliku hooga oleks meeldivam neil oma juuri näha Sarmaatlastest nais sõdalaste seas...
Kuid tavaajalugu loen endiselt..:
"The history of Russia begins with that of the Eastern Slavs and the Finno-Ugric peoples. The state of Garðaríki ("the realm of towns"), which was centered in Novgorod and included the entire areas inhabited by Ilmen Slavs, Veps, and Votes, was established by the Varangian chieftain Rurik in 862...."
ja Meil siin pulli küla.. pea 10 000 aastat vana (ja see kõigest meie selle ala ajalugu.. aga mis veel enne siia tulekut meil oli...) nii et jah. eks proovigu võistelda juurte ja õiguse osas :P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Russiahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Russia
19 May 2015 12:07
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Leberecht's post.
Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
Loodetavasti luges ta moraali selles pulmas ja tuletas meelde, et kosmiliselt ei ole võimalik trukkaritel või muidu mees armatsejatel pääseda hingelises arengus vägapalju kaugemale, tee vabaduse poole sünnib ainult läbi õige Naise südame.19 May 2015 11:37
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Leberecht's post.
Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
tõsit ta on peeter... tõsi ta on..19 May 2015 11:33
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Leberecht's post.
Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
Kogu asja iroonia muidugi on, et kommunistid-natisistid teema arendus on suht humoorikas, sest suures plaanis kommunistid need kes tekitavad natsiste, et enda võimu laiendada
sest kui kujutletavat vastasleeri pole siis ei saa Rooma Impeerium oma muskleid laiutada ja usku jalge alla tallata nii avalikult. Ning taime tarkasi ja kõike muid kes tervest mõistusest või vabadusest laulda soovivad.
Saksamaal endal ju sama kahepealine kontkas uhkelt riigisümboliks olnud. See sama mis venemaal.. see Rooma Impeeriumi tähtsaim sõja ja vallutus sümbol läbi kujutleva vastasleeri loomise ning ida ja lääne ikke all hoidmise19 May 2015 11:33
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Leberecht's post.
Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
Konrad ka ju sakslane19 May 2015 11:29
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Leberecht's post.
Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
jah, aga mitte nii kiire, sirge, siiani kestva
kommunistid igast asju suuremana teevad aga kas paremini, see juba teine asi..19 May 2015 11:28
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Leberecht's post.
Group: KODANIKUJULGUS
Aga kes siis kiirtee enne Hitlerit avas?19 May 2015 11:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But as it has been clear long time ago, any government control regionally for an internet will be impossible (as of old ways, per earth) in few years when it will be so cheap to get internet from space in any country, as it is in interest of Big Gov, to get You connected in ever gave ... they will figure out later, what to do with it.. but first.. they wanna make sure no gov has option to regulate type of content based on their agenda, be it a China or Russia.. well... i guess the ones who own internet some basic sections still more has to say.. and who owns resources to make freedom illusions
19 May 2015 06:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://discuss.outernet.is/t/outernet-is-a-marketing-scam-and-nothing-more/489
http://discuss.outernet.is/t/outernet-is-a-marketing-scam-and-nothing-more/489
19 May 2015 06:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Also: http://www.securitytube.net/video/11839
http://www.securitytube.net/video/11839
19 May 2015 05:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://ipnsig.org/category/dtn/dtn-terrestrial/
There has been a lot of interest lately in Gooogle’s Project Loon, which proposes to extend Internet access to remote areas of the planet through high altitude balloons (travelling 20 km. above the earth). While intriguing, there are many problems to solve. Some observers believe Google would require a fleet of up to 70,000 balloons to provide coverage for the entire populated areas of the world. Other problems include territorial jurisdictions (although 20km is really high—it’s not high enough to avoid needing permission of nations the balloons overfly) and funding for building and maintaining such a fleet could run up to hundreds of millions of dollars.
IPNSIG thinks it may pay off to set our sights a little higher.
IPNSIG Board Member Scott Burleigh (NASA/JPL) & Edward J.Birrane (Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory) have published an intriguing paper describing the marriage of DTN & CubeSats to create a cheap and reliable way to provide basic network services to every populated location on the planet. They call their proposed system the “Ring Road”. Since the network nodes would be in Low Earth Orbit (LEO), national boundaries would not be an issue. And the cost of such an infrastructure would be relatively cheap: about $33M for development, deployment and maintenance over the ten-year lifecycle of such a network.
This network would be enabled by two key technologies:
CubeSats are very small satellites measuring 1o cm on each side of a cube, and weighing 1 kg. or less. Although universities have developed single CubeSats for as little as $52K, for the purposes of the Ring Road system, Burleigh and Birrane estimate their cost to be $170K each.
Delay & Disruption Tolerant Networking (DTN) allows the CubeSat to act as a data “mule” storing uploaded “bundles” of data until the CubeSat’s orbit takes it over a groundstation connected to the Internet. The height and speed of the CubeSat’s orbit provides wide area coverage and speedy transit to its next download link.
There has been a lot of interest lately in Gooogle’s Project Loon, which proposes to extend Internet access to remote areas of the planet through high altitude balloons (travelling 20 km. above the earth). While intriguing, there are many problems to solve. Some observers believe Google would require a fleet of up to 70,000 balloons to provide coverage for the entire populated areas of the world. Other problems include territorial jurisdictions (although 20km is really high—it’s not high enough to avoid needing permission of nations the balloons overfly) and funding for building and maintaining such a fleet could run up to hundreds of millions of dollars.
IPNSIG thinks it may pay off to set our sights a little higher.
IPNSIG Board Member Scott Burleigh (NASA/JPL) & Edward J.Birrane (Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory) have published an intriguing paper describing the marriage of DTN & CubeSats to create a cheap and reliable way to provide basic network services to every populated location on the planet. They call their proposed system the “Ring Road”. Since the network nodes would be in Low Earth Orbit (LEO), national boundaries would not be an issue. And the cost of such an infrastructure would be relatively cheap: about $33M for development, deployment and maintenance over the ten-year lifecycle of such a network.
This network would be enabled by two key technologies:
CubeSats are very small satellites measuring 1o cm on each side of a cube, and weighing 1 kg. or less. Although universities have developed single CubeSats for as little as $52K, for the purposes of the Ring Road system, Burleigh and Birrane estimate their cost to be $170K each.
Delay & Disruption Tolerant Networking (DTN) allows the CubeSat to act as a data “mule” storing uploaded “bundles” of data until the CubeSat’s orbit takes it over a groundstation connected to the Internet. The height and speed of the CubeSat’s orbit provides wide area coverage and speedy transit to its next download link.
http://ipnsig.org/category/dtn/dtn-terrestrial/
19 May 2015 05:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://ipnsig.org/2015/05/18/ipn-speakers-conference-webcast-link/
http://ipnsig.org/2015/05/18/ipn-speakers-conference-webcast-link/
19 May 2015 05:43
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Is She still on ?
19 May 2015 04:29
Margus Meigo commented on Nathan Wilson Cravens's photo.
Now try to find book of Life and Alive as well ;)
19 May 2015 04:26
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
oh now am remember, the Amir Taaki times, Thanks for pictures Jessica Fox!
19 May 2015 04:08
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
ya remember what was this TV show or movie where he was in? And the radio station where he calls in all the itme?
19 May 2015 04:07
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
what is going on with him, he still wears a costumes?
Send him a greetings if ya see, tell him to get in contact
waffad@gmail.com in here or something
Send him a greetings if ya see, tell him to get in contact
waffad@gmail.com in here or something
19 May 2015 04:07
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
oh.. and our open eye masonic spy master agent
19 May 2015 04:06
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
if that's the guy talking about "have you grab a balls like that...."
19 May 2015 04:05
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
well.. will be.. as necessary.. :p
19 May 2015 04:04
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
poor art studio other side ow wall..
19 May 2015 04:04
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
cute innit
19 May 2015 04:04
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
see they even took shoes off, that's how well it was :p
i wonder if someone has recordings of rest of the house as well :D
i wonder if someone has recordings of rest of the house as well :D
19 May 2015 04:03
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
and yogurts i eat well many .. oh was times..
19 May 2015 04:02
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
and this is Your cider you try not to drink :p
19 May 2015 04:01
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
oh now i remember.. this was the time the people made the documentary of Amir Taaki
19 May 2015 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
well, compared to rest of the house...
19 May 2015 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
is that clean floor or what !
19 May 2015 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
haa my bedroom :D
19 May 2015 03:59
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
oh.. and all these great details.. and does it exist right ?
Even the corner of weed can see from here and Becky vision of me in writing
Even the corner of weed can see from here and Becky vision of me in writing
19 May 2015 03:58
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
still got same bible on my table :p
19 May 2015 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
Can not recall of all but probably i did for remembering the important corners of reality, that was happening. These are great, was it in your phone? : ))
19 May 2015 03:56
Margus Meigo commented on Rob Rundle's photo.
Yeah, nature is the way but be careful with these pentagram symbols.. they like to poses people...
19 May 2015 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on Kat Von D's photo.
Is party ready for you, thats question
15 May 2015 01:54
Margus Meigo commented on Kylli Kell's post.
Group: PuuSõber
varem või hiljem nad pidid sellega vahele jääma15 May 2015 01:50
Margus Meigo commented on Kris Tak's post.
Group: PuuSõber
Sooviks ka seda looduslikku hambaharja.. juba aastaid ei ole harjanud ja hammaste tervis on paranenud.. kuid ikka millegiga nühkida sooviks vahest15 May 2015 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on Harri Aarde's post.
Group: Originaal ja Koopia
Väga hea uurimiskoostöö, äitah!15 May 2015 01:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Not the most original video but the one that come up with "smoking" and "birthday"
13 May 2015 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on Nana Kojo's photo.
it better be proper smoke
13 May 2015 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on Hassan Hussain's post.
Group: Urantia
Thats REALLY good!
the ending13 May 2015 01:47
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Nael's post.
Group: Eestlased Londonis. Estonians In London
igast sellised üle joogatamised on enamasti nagu... üle liia.. eriti siis kui nagu psühedeelseid aineid ei kasutata.. siis tekib lihtsalt jooga uhkus aga kogemusi ei teki koos kõikide õpetustega13 May 2015 01:42
Margus Meigo commented on Kathleen O'Brien's post.
Group: Cannabis
but more important is to remember WHY you smoke, and make proper religious quest or mind fix.. so the high will evolve you as needed, not randomly13 May 2015 01:41
Margus Meigo commented on Kathleen O'Brien's post.
Group: Cannabis
Keep it in girl.. keep it in way longer... it is a myth that 95 % all filtered out in first in heal and that high is not getting better like that.. i usually keep it all in , for real :p13 May 2015 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
transsexual is another matter12 May 2015 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
It is not just how it is, is there something "just"?, it is a virus as a communism is a virus but more serious form as it involves possession of another spirit directly.
Alcoholism is a virus as well,
Just we talk in larger scale, a virus, as what it is. And its curable12 May 2015 22:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"However, BSD and some of its derivatives have adopted a Christian demon as their mascot rather than a Greek daemon"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(computing)#Terminology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(computing)#Terminology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(computing)#Terminology
12 May 2015 22:41
Margus Meigo commented on Tod Gemuese's post.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
but in another view,
it will be creepy when they not need these kind of things anymore..12 May 2015 22:34
Margus Meigo commented on Tod Gemuese's post.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
Creepy is that other people still working on that place12 May 2015 22:33
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
If You truly gay You should maybe not be shamed about it
as we told it is curable and maybe this is your mission to be gay in this life, and learn these minds , others who are gay.. and think how to make world better12 May 2015 22:09
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
Mark-Edwin Anger (Sheppard IS German word already no?) And Anger means Green.. or Wiese... anyway,
Stop jugging me for telling me that i make fun of You when You not know if i make or not, ok?
Next i will start to make humor of your skin color if i need to, your mind will make up the Judgement if it is bad or good.
(oh, and i was not judging as of name)12 May 2015 22:07
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
No it is not as You read from here : https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
It is great sin to use sex for manipulation as then another spirits actually will play with a women and She will get great harm from it in the end.. in often timeshttps://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
12 May 2015 21:58
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
lol Mark-Edwin Anger .. ahahaha yeah, if You look it from REALLY materialistic point of view, then You are right for sure :D (but there is no sin in material world right..)
Anger You, why you put word "anger" in your name?12 May 2015 21:56
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
And to be clear: Women is better, more useful and more higher level connected naturally then a man
and man can access the highest levels of realizations only if in their life is a women who love them, so this women love opens up channels in another information worlds..
If you die and there is not even single women who love you, not even mother.. then there is no reason for you to be born again, not a single use, your information will be transferred to more beneficial beings who are loved,at least by few women in life time.
(but it is dangerous to make women IN love with you and then hurt her feelings.. this brings GREAT harm in future spiritual evolution.. so make sure.. not to make any hurt on that sector... )12 May 2015 21:55
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
Martyn Phillips no worries, there comes times when all that comes more clear for you to. That we live in spiritual world, where is happening constant Act of Love12 May 2015 21:51
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
But helping Yourself, is NOT always helping others..
So always, .. try to keep focused, to help others.. (as they might be you to)12 May 2015 21:49
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
Helping others, is helping Yourself
Calling others to be proper is a hope, that they will call you to be proper also in matters You need12 May 2015 21:41
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
Well, better always do it for help of the one who you previewed to needing help ... as their spirit in some other world will help you with a Huge harsh issues in another level..
Most people just afraid to care and afraid of spirits inside people that attack them.. so they make up beliefs like "it is not their business.. every ones their own life" .. and then same time they try to be hippy and see that We are All one...12 May 2015 21:41
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
This is not judging like that, it is like telling someone "You have bad smell in your moth, go wash it if you do not like other people to smell it"
It is our DUTY to make everyone's life better and to say to others that benafit them12 May 2015 21:37
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
And at no cost You should hate nothing of them (of ANYone you dislike ) or in fact anything except perhaps at times when someone making direct harm.. then use that energy for skilled way, but rather is rage then hate, hate always ends up near self destruction .
And most basic rule is always, you can not evolve in to freedom from this world if You hold crude for your parents, this is REALLY basic12 May 2015 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
(tools by some other spirits or aliens, species, who have another agenda for humans then humans them self agreed with their direct maker and nature )12 May 2015 21:32
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
Looking that someone needs help who is homo virus infected is not a judging but a intellectual analyzes and basic spiritual knowledge. Homo "virus" is used as one of the master tools from Greek time to now, to help to keep humans enslaved here,.
just remember, with power of god and plants they made for you .. you can change Yourself in to right version again, You can even and up in another time if needed, just you must have CLEAR direct belief that The One, Your Mother and Nature can do it for You.. and if they explain You in another world that you not jet ready.. then keep learning and trying.. and believing.. as You must RE work ALL bad things YOU EVER todl to anyone... and re live these episodes proper way in a "trip" and then they will give similar things You for a task in life.. to see if you really now are changed or try to be better... do you remember.. that what was "In a trip" is real, and the powers are real, always, here, sometimes more... sometimes more then we can handle in a good way if we not jet so clean.
But in the end.. they will make You feel good inside heart, , for ever feeling god CALM happiness, with realization what you must do in this world, and that in most part.. you have done most things right.. to give your big good benefit to a world with your last deeds.12 May 2015 21:31
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
Mark-Edwin Anger Actually we MUST learn to judge others,
and these are not "drugs" but Highest level of technology God as made in this earth we can access, DRINKING is REALLY BAD.. as it is almost like jerking off with your mind.. not using it spiritually for benefit of earth and yourself.
nothing "just is" there is reason why these things are and how they shall be and how they become what they must be12 May 2015 21:29
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
and if you are homo yourself, i recommend to take it as wrong diet, as people eat dead flesh, drink and smoke, it is also terrible mistake.. so You not mistaking alone.. it is HUGE step to know the mistake, and to keep it as balanced as you can, then saving can come more near. Strongly recommend LARGE LARGE dosages of psychedelic hallucinogenics and keep bible near, even if you not able to read it, just peak in to "Proverbs" at times. But just holding it near, also protects You and with help of nature you one day are able to return to normal path, with no pain ..
If You are mixed sex, then this is great spiritual task for you, but in All.. Join with a Women if You unsure, always more safer then joining with man.
But if You are lesbian.. then also.. take these magic mushrooms and start to move near to country man.. or help women in their issues, but try not to temp them self.. as ultimately, it is spiritually mans fault when women is with another women but it is man fault when man is with another man.
These plants i mentioned, REALLY can help.. (you can also LOSE your sex.. if you straight half way and just go joking around with it.. as You ARE able to see how you was in beginning and how you will be in the end.. just sometimes it takes 10 some years and 5 or more trips with variety of HALLUCINOGENIC plants(only!) to train our spirit and explain us the world from all the corners we need. )12 May 2015 21:26
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
We separated on birth to male (limited version) and to female (ultimate creator) for a reason, and then there is ONLY one way to join back to womb where we come from, alive.
Some way it might look harsh but it is more just a physics of a world then a "rules" ... or some ones opinion about a homos,
Rules are just here to help us to guide us in BASIC out of trillions of ways, to keep us in roads that have many ways not dead ends.
I lived years with a homo and even thought we newer joined, it become clear as clear that this just can not be even thought he would have been perfect good heart for most women or man, earthly way.
But the evil part of homos in large is their spirits that control them and their minds to make them think against nature (not caring for the nature, for state or for people or health.. but only for them self.. often they say things like "there is to many people in world" or they will laugh about World Saving ideas or even more often are they against region and that clearly makes then on the wrong side of good line. )12 May 2015 21:26
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
And the proper love as we know romantic love higher levels can only happen between female and male and for sure not between male and male as these kind of things are not present in 2 man that can make this happen what is happening when opposite sex make the love. And when they feel for each other.
Homo people in easily can make them self to believe earthy "love" but as the real point of the love, is for man to access female heart, and through HER heart we can access to spiritual freedom outside that real, permanently, directly, (besides many other worlds, ..gay spirits also have many their own synthetic and other worlds but these are not real woulds in the Greatest sense of world, as these worlds can be turned off by higher, real world. )12 May 2015 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on Minyo Lee's post.
Group: Urantia
"Sexual orientation" is a myth, confusion language, made people think like there would be another equal way possible.
In truth these matters are spiritual and majority of homo version its a virus in their spirit (there is many, totally different from each other, some directly possessed , other broken or confused and abused or tricked )12 May 2015 21:05
Margus Meigo commented on Sean Munson's post.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
and even that looks funny first.. then older ones know, it is not so funny but more true then we dare to imagine when teenagers:
"“Until we get back into saying, you know, I’ve got to have a biblical view on computer programming, I’ve got to have a biblical view as a business, as a Chamber of Commerce, whatever it is,” Barton said, “if we don’t get that back to where everyone has a common worldview and, based on our documents, that is there is a God, he gives you a certain set of rights, government protects those rights, he gives a fixed moral law that I’m not allowed to alter and then, below that, I can make decisions, until we get back to the common understanding of the nation, we won’t have a stable nation”
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/12/03/pure-insanity-conservative-christian-calls-for-a-biblical-view-on-computer-programming/
( and as we know, sexual guilt is mostly for un religious and broken program people, who choose the cheap template over real thing: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html this is Real christian view on what bible is based, but even step higher to matriarchy direction )http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/12/03/pure-insanity-conservative-christian-calls-for-a-biblical-view-on-computer-programming/
12 May 2015 20:44
Margus Meigo commented on Sean Munson's post.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
Matthew You should know... You should know : )
We not jet Donald Knuths but we should easily see, that Our human language (and other social codes) is that for What computer codes are basic footprints to start to understand interrelations between different systems, spirits, gateways, ghosts jobs..commands, ...and oh..
as computer not live just by power, it needs language and services so we need that and services (spiritual beings) inside us to keep us moving...and language is one of our main tool, as "in the beginning there was..." ... so yes, computers, as beings known before electricity, are no strangers to proper Christians.
"Man does not live on bread alone,
but on every word that comes from the mouth of Adonai/Hashem"
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mattityahu%204&version=OJB;CJB
"However, BSD and some of its derivatives have adopted a Christian demon as their mascot rather than a Greek daemon"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(computing)#Terminology
Oh.. was not so perfect on expressing that today... but still somethinghttps://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mattityahu+4&version=OJB%3BCJB
12 May 2015 20:41
Margus Meigo commented on Tod Gemuese's post.
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chrome run from version 12 after they got Opera ... to version 42 with few years, it got really strange , retarded kind of .. as New version old times meant ... new version..11 May 2015 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on Tod Gemuese's post.
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told you so
and they will cross breed with Linux like as well
told that long time ago and this will happen one way or another, there will be only one "a system" in a future of what all systems will be part of, if they want to access the universe.11 May 2015 20:02
Margus Meigo commented on Dennis Wilen's post.
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so this is why the wolf at moon...11 May 2015 03:42
Margus Meigo commented on Dennis Wilen's post.
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Awwww!11 May 2015 03:41
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
istutasin ka mõned maasika taimed uuesti maha mida maadkaevates avastasin, kuid need selle metsmaasika sarnased..kuid maitset küll sellist pole..
10 May 2015 18:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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FSb also10 May 2015 01:49
Margus Meigo commented on Xeh Adnap's post.
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Geographical location: "The Secret Agent"
Camp Williams Utah.
Cheltenham UK., Beijing China.
Moscow Russia. .. pretty exact for a secret agents.
Yeah these Uthanians and Chinese
innit ダルセン テイス8 May 2015 18:35
Margus Meigo commented on Gavin Klondike's post.
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I just can not make up strong enough parallel for that to compete
in all levels,
he win, i just look at hes face and headline.. freezes up and burst to laugh.
man, they get good on these days. What kind of sorcery is that.8 May 2015 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on Gavin Klondike's post.
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And he is with so serious face, like he really mean it also.
No really.. it was meant as an harsh irony right, the face and the statement and ... seriously, if am would not have seen last comments i would really thought so, i guess am must come out from my naive ferry world to a world of no shame.
Thats almoust like coppers would tell: "i think criminals should beat up their victims alone.. " .. wait, that did not sound right also.8 May 2015 18:16
Margus Meigo commented on Tod Gemuese's post.
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Vvn Nation can not imagine how to put it more perfect :D8 May 2015 18:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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One other thing we figured out ,that holy grail and a vagina, is really near to each other..
True story7 May 2015 00:58
Margus Meigo commented on Dennis Dotson's post.
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But in short.. anyone who is against religion is also guilty of what happens to Her, on first picture7 May 2015 00:57
Margus Meigo commented on Peter Luci's post.
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But am serious, You people most DO know, that this is one of the most sure, secure and fastest way to come to contact with God right?
this was one of my ordinary rooms:
https://plus.google.com/photos/+MargusWaffa/albums/5849683313516838865/5856074953721335570?pid=5856074953721335570&oid=102871056968914830739https://plus.google.com/photos/+MargusWaffa/albums/5849683313516838865/5856074953721335570?pid=5856074953721335570&oid=102871056968914830739
7 May 2015 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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More overly positive nerdCore
celebutante... yeah!
Loads of words:
Nerd rap infests your internet. You left a trap, but it's empty.
MC Frontalot took a gape but the bait wasn't tempting,
ending up uncaged and at large
to talk smack at you through the networking appliance that's in charge
of every drip of your attention.
Yo, when mine goes out I've got to log in just to mention
my disappointment at the interruption of convenience.
I mean just: a lot left, but none up in between this
couple of minutes here and a couple of minutes later.
It's an outrage, at the price I paid. These dictators
of my leisure rule with an iron fist.
Has anybody ever been so put upon as this?
Your GPS run out of battery (first world problem)
Got to wake up Saturday (first world problem)
You just delayed a honeymoon (first world problem)
Pledge season's coming soon (first world problem)
Half your friend list is spam accounts (first world problem)
And your center channel speaker's out (first world problem)
Muffy, my hair regrowth cream is mostly ineffective
and I'm struggling to keep this in perspective,
but I feel like a massive injustice occurred.
Says "regrows hair" on the tube (in the words)
in a third — or maybe a quarter — of all users.
I must have got swindled. Is it a fault? Of whose is?
Oooh, Muffy, Muffy, I had all the servants tortured.
Did you keep them on retainer? Do you got some more on order?
'Cause I can't comb my hair on my own no more.
I got accustomed to the lifestyle, sniffed upon the spore
and it molded up my innards, made the blood turn blue.
Muffy, Muffy, there's a revolution; what we're gonna do?
Misplaced the Ambien (first world problem)
Left a participle dangling (first world problem)
You're scheduling your root canal (first world problem)
Your grad schooling had no rationale (first world problem)
You didn't like your appetizer (first world problem)
Your yacht got capsized (a first world problem)
Now while our capitalism is in a minor kerfuffle,
you have to hustle. Before the fates come, reshuffle.
Rustle up another couple grievances and air 'em.
You can laugh about it later (maybe needed while despairing).
For the moment though, you ordered half caf, didn't get it;
there was no TV set when you jetted; internet resetted
itself just as I was in the middle
of tournament play, and so I suffered from transmittal
interruption. Completely ruined my day.
MC Frontalot's a jackass, that's all I'm trying to say.
People buy CDs in these days of disaster,
so poor me: I have to be a professional rapper.
No bubbles in the soda cup (first world problem)
App crashed when you loaded up (first world problem)
Phone's OS is outta date (first world problem)
Colors won't calibrate (first world problem)
They never stock the snack you want (first world problem)
Caught herpes from a celebutante
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3w1_E1V46Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3w1_E1V46M
6 May 2015 23:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Something light, but happy and overly positive :
.WMP (Y) :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBkuiChImb8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBkuiChImb8
6 May 2015 23:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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James Michael Winters haah the Futuristic Sex Robotz is proper funny find, their others stuff as well (Y) like The Positronic Pimp remind me some good retro times (was that movie even so old?)
But the guy dreams is a bit over a top for most people "List things to do" not even mentioning the horse part :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvlC-LwDa4ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvlC-LwDa4g
6 May 2015 23:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Dual Core's "All The Things" is yes, pretty strong,
just the thing is the (unintentional probably) mental programming is dangerous on it.. as drinking is that what "they" hope we will fall for.. (instead for hallucinogenics for example, and natural knowledge in sober mind) .... as if anyone gets Fuel from alcohol.. then it is great chance this person can be rolled in to wrong traps and crash ones life or join with wrong grew... or cause great amount of other troubles that gets people disconnected from each other as they not know anymore how t be one in sober mind and search release from the worst Establishment corporate sheepye drugs there is .. alcohol and cigarettes..
roll a blunt or fly shrooms better if other high tech truth drugs is not accessible..
This is what they discovered on LSD.. that its good for a truth serum but problem is that people who use it become to KNOW truth as well not just telling it.. and they might keep telling it after that... also truth they was able to extract from the interrogator about the system.. so this is why its a bit dangerous as well. besides million other usages..
soviets hold entire totalitarian system up just wit alcohol and cigarettes manipulations for a some time
and results still work, up to now (like lost of common sense etc)
--
If ya hack.. you know why it is good and for who and who above supports your deeds (aka: all good people and plants).. .. not just for a sake of it..6 May 2015 23:00
Margus Meigo commented on Tod Gemuese's post.
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maybe am just to patriotic about Skype (Estonian u know :p )6 May 2015 22:28
Margus Meigo commented on Tod Gemuese's post.
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Micorosft should just BUY this Sky network from Murdoch,
and then broadcast Bills ASS for one week on Live "suck on that Robert",
And then put some other use on to this network, like start to live leak Murdoch friends dark deals and also some UK mp-s tape recordings about children that CIA and FSB has .. with a SkyDrive ..og..ONEdrive .. open accounts for live leaks uploads to anyone who want to hack out something interesting from these guys, giving a rest of hacking Microsoft for a time
they so lucky am not on Microsoft board, this would be well money spend, and i guess the world wide viewers would even increase.. as it would be like battle of Giants6 May 2015 22:28
Margus Meigo commented on Tod Gemuese's post.
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This must be joke6 May 2015 22:19
Margus Meigo commented on Tod Gemuese's post.
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well, only as long we go and make these Persian oldest culture free from their roots, force MacDonald down their throat with Will & Grace
(tv show, but perfectly works with words as well, as you can see)
the worst kind is the ones shaving their hair as NOmandians who teamed up with ROmands for the hidden global empire we live in now.
You know, the ones shaving behind a ears. (really old times they shaved mostly only back of the head)
Time by time you can see if some similar spirit has "taken" someone just by this haircut.. specially popular before entering to politics or some other world where they put rope, tie around your neck.
Oh.. the ones who have not jet noticed this (talking about the times when the "vikings" pretended to be Holy Cross fighters and keeped up their murders and human sacrifice and .. worst jet.. to serve the dark forces they serve... the today's world pentagram world, the rulers of former communist and current capitalist worlds excluding few Monarchs who have their own roots.. but also inside many of their roots, was surrender to the forces.. )6 May 2015 19:48
Margus Meigo commented on Tod Gemuese's post.
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Good, at least someone is doing something about it6 May 2015 19:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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in short: darpa-craft : )
it is really a bumper when comes out we all a sperm cells and only one can actually make it, or at best few twins.
(my job is also to engage more people with darpas.. even thought FAPSI FAGCI is more near to me )6 May 2015 02:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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part of ENGAGE n STEM program perhaps (to let people know so they can proceed faster, also the google INgress game.. perfect Agent platform for be on advanced tasks as well... really advanced in future plans..)
( also: nice piece: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/darpa-uses-preteen-gamers-to-beta-test-tomorrows-military-software )http://motherboard.vice.com/read/darpa-uses-preteen-gamers-to-beta-test-tomorrows-military-software
6 May 2015 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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I thought you say "even idiots can.." but then again, possible that some cant who is blinded by dislike.
.. it just might be that there is plan for DARPas for all kind of people to explain them how they can not be incompetent.. and thought all these open catalog www.darpa.mil/opencatalog and wikipages about "what we do, what we do got" is part of program:
"lets get these people also thinking.. all of them, who can"
part of ENGAGE n STEM program perhapshttp://www.darpa.mil/opencatalog
6 May 2015 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on YTCracker's post.
Well, where is one there comes more
6 May 2015 01:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L41cCGnnjiwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L41cCGnnjiw
6 May 2015 01:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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http://www.ytcracker.com/music/spamtec%20-%20delilah.mp3http://www.ytcracker.com/music/spamtec%20-%20delilah.mp3
6 May 2015 01:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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No worries, me to6 May 2015 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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There is also world of vampires but they not grow apples you know, they live long but what life it is?
( Arteriocyte might not really be big help for them as well in real world.. ) ..6 May 2015 00:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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I think they inner circles kind of "We can do, what can you do about it?"
Lets keep in mind, LSD-25 like products, also natural, is basic known medicine for labs like that.. in any setting asked for.... so with minimum paranoia a lot can be put in to practice what is seen,
all that what is here anyway before the world of organic tech is opened to humans again, or paradise or what they call it..
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
Only thing common people can pray for, that there is common Earth mind in tripping team, so the worlds that is shown where we can bring other people to, will be directed to Natural technology that can maintain with zero waste and space travel becomes metal free (as metal is made to move only as fast as it is made to move... and it is not really fast compared to direct travel by will ).
In worst estimate it can take few hundred years before ultimate limitations of metal is discovered. Just random number i feel, Can not really imagine how can it longer am expect to get my things done by that time as well.
positive notice, darpas is to be used to remove people illusions of private and separate life, helpers to bring future more near but humans HAVE to be the ones who in whole re discover the most important.
(God, Love, Nature)http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
6 May 2015 00:04
Margus Meigo commented on Beck Dalton's post.
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I bet hes show fits with tunes like that http://www.ytcracker.com/music/ytcracker%20-%20get%20on%20my%20level.mp3http://www.ytcracker.com/music/ytcracker%20-%20get%20on%20my%20level.mp3
5 May 2015 23:24
Margus Meigo commented on Iron Fox's post.
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first thought like ingress but not at all actually..5 May 2015 23:16
Margus Meigo commented on Michael Kore's post.
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There was some news how they made similar sex teachings in a school, for sec education, strange land the japaneze.. innit satumoras and shatoshis5 May 2015 23:11
Margus Meigo commented on Joseph Hlava's post.
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I plan to sue all mayor governments if comes out no-one saved my datas5 May 2015 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on Dennis Wilen's post.
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http://www.ytcracker.com/music/ytcracker%20-%20drink%20more%20post%20more.mp3http://www.ytcracker.com/music/ytcracker%20-%20drink%20more%20post%20more.mp3
5 May 2015 23:07
Margus Meigo commented on Beck Dalton's post.
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This will make you stand out in a party
"Hay lady's... "5 May 2015 23:00
Margus Meigo commented on Beck Dalton's post.
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this is how Wilhelm Conrad Röntgen saw intercourse back on hes time, dark times indeed..5 May 2015 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on Rob O'Hara's post.
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but they should still add the CVV to proper know for sure,
send the developer the bug report "i tested my cards few times and it was till not stolen"5 May 2015 22:56
Margus Meigo commented on Rob O'Hara's post.
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KISS at best :D5 May 2015 22:53
Margus Meigo commented on Dennis Wilen's post.
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Steve, Steve, why..5 May 2015 22:47
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Scholz's photo.
Looks Really healthy
5 May 2015 22:32
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
milky milky
5 May 2015 22:30
Margus Meigo commented on Abby Kaufman's post.
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Pr-omission granted5 May 2015 22:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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well, at least more straight forward then claytronics project5 May 2015 22:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
5 May 2015 01:01
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
ps, lets hope "Mr. Computer" kind of beings not able to find meaning on to that sort of English to soon...
3 May 2015 16:46
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
My connection so slow, it does not allow to load the video :(
But yes, in short, bible newer promoted the evil idea like "everyone is equal" and "deomncrazy" ..
It rather learned to know tho self , now that you are part of high favor child of nature and you has been limited in prison here by these who we call up to our self.. and who is inside us now.. and using us as weapon against nature beings and another dimensions, and defense same time by letting us to develop them a weapons against us self.... live sheald.. so if they try to attack or protect them self when attacked.. they show to us as "humans, us" is attacked.. so they use humans to speed up the "against them" agenda, that is against our own makers even more.. clever bastards..
in the end it is narrowing down that they got all the wifes who make new genetic material.. and we not able to save womens as we not even know where our own bodies in parallel times is located that is connected to our spirit
but there is also instructions, on what level they are not able to get to us so easy.. that is MOST basic home level.. this way they was against Jew long time ago as Jew honor home work, and work for your own field and neighbors field ... for common good.. but if people life as friends, helping the ones most near by... then not easy to control.. so they try to make as many youth to believe that home work is bad and suppressing, instead.. and made people work for strangers... so they can be used as force to produce anything what is needed.. and when is not needed.. just give them some virtual jobs they think is real, as they get money for it...
Jew even was against school.. as they think, every parent and community know them self what they teach to kid and their guide is god, nature and Torah directly, ... but Greek - Romans.. needed mass school system so they can program people to all think in that way that they can predict and control.. and also inject in to school system as much "science" against supernatural and religion.. so people can be keep blind.. about dark forces who use them..
theater ,... entertainment.. all is from Greek - Romans.. (the Romans most important war logo is Russian state logo if you have noticed..)
England .. in one way, is one of the greatest hopes for world.. imperiously.. but only if they will start to use their power to turn people to nature.. or start to use their influence to stop further programming people away from nature...
Old times was basic, that everyone know how to heal, make medicine, build houses, crop, ... how to meet right women.. and all that for free! Depression was only known mostly for Kings who had to worry about other people life (next book after Proverbs...if you want to see depressed King talking... in bible..)
So yeah.. lets hope it has some use for someone
also this some day, will be useful: https://sites.google.com/site/waffad/home/HebrewVSgreecevs.minorupdate.2015.03.29.docx?attredirects=0&d=1
to see.. if we are thinking as greeks.. or as hebrew people... whos mind was open ... to time travel for free
But yes, in short, bible newer promoted the evil idea like "everyone is equal" and "deomncrazy" ..
It rather learned to know tho self , now that you are part of high favor child of nature and you has been limited in prison here by these who we call up to our self.. and who is inside us now.. and using us as weapon against nature beings and another dimensions, and defense same time by letting us to develop them a weapons against us self.... live sheald.. so if they try to attack or protect them self when attacked.. they show to us as "humans, us" is attacked.. so they use humans to speed up the "against them" agenda, that is against our own makers even more.. clever bastards..
in the end it is narrowing down that they got all the wifes who make new genetic material.. and we not able to save womens as we not even know where our own bodies in parallel times is located that is connected to our spirit
but there is also instructions, on what level they are not able to get to us so easy.. that is MOST basic home level.. this way they was against Jew long time ago as Jew honor home work, and work for your own field and neighbors field ... for common good.. but if people life as friends, helping the ones most near by... then not easy to control.. so they try to make as many youth to believe that home work is bad and suppressing, instead.. and made people work for strangers... so they can be used as force to produce anything what is needed.. and when is not needed.. just give them some virtual jobs they think is real, as they get money for it...
Jew even was against school.. as they think, every parent and community know them self what they teach to kid and their guide is god, nature and Torah directly, ... but Greek - Romans.. needed mass school system so they can program people to all think in that way that they can predict and control.. and also inject in to school system as much "science" against supernatural and religion.. so people can be keep blind.. about dark forces who use them..
theater ,... entertainment.. all is from Greek - Romans.. (the Romans most important war logo is Russian state logo if you have noticed..)
England .. in one way, is one of the greatest hopes for world.. imperiously.. but only if they will start to use their power to turn people to nature.. or start to use their influence to stop further programming people away from nature...
Old times was basic, that everyone know how to heal, make medicine, build houses, crop, ... how to meet right women.. and all that for free! Depression was only known mostly for Kings who had to worry about other people life (next book after Proverbs...if you want to see depressed King talking... in bible..)
So yeah.. lets hope it has some use for someone
also this some day, will be useful: https://sites.google.com/site/waffad/home/HebrewVSgreecevs.minorupdate.2015.03.29.docx?attredirects=0&d=1
to see.. if we are thinking as greeks.. or as hebrew people... whos mind was open ... to time travel for free
3 May 2015 16:43
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
I also got some strange feelings when i see cumeron what he speaks.. .. even in going to Nelson Mandella funeral, for him it was like nice party that had benefits as "he was able to meet many of hes club people..." ... wonder what club
how heartless must be someone.. to talk about personal business, to use someone funeral, for business and highlight that?
BUt yea... please take it as gossip for now.. as am can not share any facts that is not on paper
but i think it might have been something related to this: https://sites.google.com/site/waffad/home/Weather_Weapon_Treaty.pdf?attredirects=0&d=1
how heartless must be someone.. to talk about personal business, to use someone funeral, for business and highlight that?
BUt yea... please take it as gossip for now.. as am can not share any facts that is not on paper
but i think it might have been something related to this: https://sites.google.com/site/waffad/home/Weather_Weapon_Treaty.pdf?attredirects=0&d=1
3 May 2015 16:25
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
It is retarded, that Cameron has more power and air time then people from Royal family, who actually has read some books and has time to trip on mushrooms, so they know a bit more, what is needed..
i so wait a day, when queen comes on public on ordinary clothes before death, and will say last words , all about government... handing over hard-drive with collected material ... about dark military plans they have been stopping army to conduct on people (well, as it will eventually come to them as well..).. and on sea..
I meet one royal family women, who told me so, that she is,
who told cum-eron tortured and beat out her moth out of tooth's .. and if she would not have some kind of protection from above she let me know mentally.. then she would be gone long time ago..
She give me some military program names.. i was not able to write it, remember it.. .. but yea... lets say that's true... her eyes truly was like from bigger world, really nice and full of love and her body holding was not of the lazy person... but she was kind of undercover.. in ordinary clothes dealing with boor...
i guess she was not really for sure, i can really help Her.. with many things... talking about leaking information and media protection.. as she told.. every time they have tried to hand information or anything to media, to public they have been cut of, none of their own media channels have fallowed the orders of Castle but government army instead.. and so she told that it is truly amazing how well All media, is blocked to them.. to use... as some how government always know who leak and where.. and every time it has failed and punishment fallowed.. with more and more serious threats .
I want to believe she was not crazy.. as this what she told is possible.. and for woman to know some army things and have clear calm view of government doings.. talking in calm voice (not as paranoid , anti gov point of view or anything.. she even did not say nothing against gov.. instead.. only that Cumeron personally took her with hes team to room.. and to beat out from her the rest of the plans.. and she show mouth and really, it was beaten out, no toots but broken.. but not because of sugar.... but she her self.. sill seemed to have besides clear sadness also clear happiness and calmness, as she knows.. that it is not easy, but some will survive to tell the tale, how we got rid of this invading forces who put us against each other.. over and over again.. perhaps she is not alive anymore or will not be after that... but i feel better to share it then not..)
(one of the army project was something to do wit a sea and storms.. but back then from UK internet i did not find much about it from internet.. one other was something about mind or magnetic or something... anyway, point is that He is really feared high level dark forces mafia guy, not just silly politician.. he is one of the few who has agreed to be open face.. most of then do their dark deals by using other people and workers.. but he really might be personally.. )
i so wait a day, when queen comes on public on ordinary clothes before death, and will say last words , all about government... handing over hard-drive with collected material ... about dark military plans they have been stopping army to conduct on people (well, as it will eventually come to them as well..).. and on sea..
I meet one royal family women, who told me so, that she is,
who told cum-eron tortured and beat out her moth out of tooth's .. and if she would not have some kind of protection from above she let me know mentally.. then she would be gone long time ago..
She give me some military program names.. i was not able to write it, remember it.. .. but yea... lets say that's true... her eyes truly was like from bigger world, really nice and full of love and her body holding was not of the lazy person... but she was kind of undercover.. in ordinary clothes dealing with boor...
i guess she was not really for sure, i can really help Her.. with many things... talking about leaking information and media protection.. as she told.. every time they have tried to hand information or anything to media, to public they have been cut of, none of their own media channels have fallowed the orders of Castle but government army instead.. and so she told that it is truly amazing how well All media, is blocked to them.. to use... as some how government always know who leak and where.. and every time it has failed and punishment fallowed.. with more and more serious threats .
I want to believe she was not crazy.. as this what she told is possible.. and for woman to know some army things and have clear calm view of government doings.. talking in calm voice (not as paranoid , anti gov point of view or anything.. she even did not say nothing against gov.. instead.. only that Cumeron personally took her with hes team to room.. and to beat out from her the rest of the plans.. and she show mouth and really, it was beaten out, no toots but broken.. but not because of sugar.... but she her self.. sill seemed to have besides clear sadness also clear happiness and calmness, as she knows.. that it is not easy, but some will survive to tell the tale, how we got rid of this invading forces who put us against each other.. over and over again.. perhaps she is not alive anymore or will not be after that... but i feel better to share it then not..)
(one of the army project was something to do wit a sea and storms.. but back then from UK internet i did not find much about it from internet.. one other was something about mind or magnetic or something... anyway, point is that He is really feared high level dark forces mafia guy, not just silly politician.. he is one of the few who has agreed to be open face.. most of then do their dark deals by using other people and workers.. but he really might be personally.. )
3 May 2015 16:21
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
i know, demoncrazy is a tool greek-roman dark forces has keep us in slave work and they have kept knife on most of the kings and queens throat as well.. .. but still keep them alive as has benefit for population control and they was a little afraid to eliminate them as Queen old family friends, know also few secrets about creation with what they can do something unpredictable for they robotic invasion slave camp plans.
Domoncrazy would only work, if every single political MUST prove, he knows, what he votes for and if they obey to religion openly with respect,
that means: they are not allowed to lie, talk fake, and sinning against ANY Orders,
they can be eliminated as the proper rules see it AS soon as anything is mistaken and all the gov must be transparent as well. And the still 4 year election thing should be also re think.. as this just makes sure, that the real dark force can keep the control.. as any politician who try to do anything in today's system, they will be eliminated with in 4 years in next election. .. but the ones.. behind the scenes.. are still the same...
Domoncrazy would only work, if every single political MUST prove, he knows, what he votes for and if they obey to religion openly with respect,
that means: they are not allowed to lie, talk fake, and sinning against ANY Orders,
they can be eliminated as the proper rules see it AS soon as anything is mistaken and all the gov must be transparent as well. And the still 4 year election thing should be also re think.. as this just makes sure, that the real dark force can keep the control.. as any politician who try to do anything in today's system, they will be eliminated with in 4 years in next election. .. but the ones.. behind the scenes.. are still the same...
3 May 2015 16:05
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
oh, Charles
i think he is pretty much more green in hes view what more older he gets, and what he has told, few things.. seems like guy who has his own mind.
i liked the comment, what he told, that construction corporation should be banned to build ugly industrial complexes middle of London, .. in the point that buildings that have no imagination used or beauty, and then they just stand, ugly.. middle of view.. waste of land.. .
i think he is pretty much more green in hes view what more older he gets, and what he has told, few things.. seems like guy who has his own mind.
i liked the comment, what he told, that construction corporation should be banned to build ugly industrial complexes middle of London, .. in the point that buildings that have no imagination used or beauty, and then they just stand, ugly.. middle of view.. waste of land.. .
3 May 2015 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
Who is that?
3 May 2015 15:51
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
Jason this is what you say is called "demoncrazy" , left side is red side and is the side who keeps you as a slave and has keep over 2000 years with manipulations.
as UK Government is against Monarchy then on parliament view, anyone against Queen is a supporter of the aims of UK Minister (or as they call these tools "useful idiots" )
Thats sad maybe for some, but there is only two sides : one supports nature, religion and women (in their side is proper kingdoms and druids) and another side is Greek Romans , dark force dick suckers, demoncrazy, western view, communists, anarchists, fascist, and capitalists
this is really how it is if you able to look it with out mind programming, emotion free, just see the data and aims of the people and start to count from thousands of years ago as they have keep this illusion going long time, sending people against them self and using people to cut of powerful good ones that they can not touch them self directly (usually, unless there is revolutions or traffic accidents )
as UK Government is against Monarchy then on parliament view, anyone against Queen is a supporter of the aims of UK Minister (or as they call these tools "useful idiots" )
Thats sad maybe for some, but there is only two sides : one supports nature, religion and women (in their side is proper kingdoms and druids) and another side is Greek Romans , dark force dick suckers, demoncrazy, western view, communists, anarchists, fascist, and capitalists
this is really how it is if you able to look it with out mind programming, emotion free, just see the data and aims of the people and start to count from thousands of years ago as they have keep this illusion going long time, sending people against them self and using people to cut of powerful good ones that they can not touch them self directly (usually, unless there is revolutions or traffic accidents )
3 May 2015 15:50
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
that's not really nice thing to say, from a people of our kind specially, innit
3 May 2015 15:42
Margus Meigo commented on Anti Piirikivi's post.
Mul vist ununes hingamine ära, salmi lõpus avastasin,
kuid mida sa üksi ikka niiväga hingad
kuid mida sa üksi ikka niiväga hingad
3 May 2015 11:37
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
with intuition and hallucinogenics beliefs am feeling...
3 May 2015 11:25
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
interesting
3 May 2015 11:23
Margus Meigo commented on Anname Au's photo.
KUi sõja teemad seotaks ära PÄRIS elu teemadega, nagu õigete iidsete sügavate tarkustega, mida TEGELIKULT päästma ja säilitama peaksime.. siis oleks hoopis teine teema..
Me ikka peaksime EESTI asja ajama, sest Eesti asi on kogu maakera inimeste ja Looduse ja Usu asi, kõige suurem asi, mis olla saab olulisuselt
Me ikka peaksime EESTI asja ajama, sest Eesti asi on kogu maakera inimeste ja Looduse ja Usu asi, kõige suurem asi, mis olla saab olulisuselt
2 May 2015 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on Anname Au's photo.
Siin võeti eriti suurelt ette "Glorious Dead"
Sellised sildid kohe oma vallutavatele inimestele .. kes kas küsime, tegelesid hea asjaga tegelikult?
Ah et tegelesid.. et need teised siis olid pahad, jäi mõni ellu kelle peaks veel ära tapma v?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2716373/The-sea-red-poppies-honour-Glorious-Dead-William-Kate-Harry-add-888-246-ceramic-flowers-planted-Tower-London-remember-British-life-lost-Great-War.html
Sellised sildid kohe oma vallutavatele inimestele .. kes kas küsime, tegelesid hea asjaga tegelikult?
Ah et tegelesid.. et need teised siis olid pahad, jäi mõni ellu kelle peaks veel ära tapma v?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2716373/The-sea-red-poppies-honour-Glorious-Dead-William-Kate-Harry-add-888-246-ceramic-flowers-planted-Tower-London-remember-British-life-lost-Great-War.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2716373/The-sea-red-poppies-honour-Glorious-Dead-William-Kate-Harry-add-888-246-ceramic-flowers-planted-Tower-London-remember-British-life-lost-Great-War.html
2 May 2015 22:26
Margus Meigo commented on Anname Au's photo.
Kui inimesed arvavad, et sedasi kopeerides teiste riikide käske, et te eestlased peate ka sõja aju meelestamise prorammiga kaasa minema ja hakkama lilli kandma sõjaga seotult, korraldusel " mõelge mingi ilus lugu sinna taha mis südamesse läheks, kuid pange inimesed telerisse, iga aasta edaspidi"
No ma pole kindel kas see hea, aga noh, vähemalt on sinine... kuigi teame väga hästi mis moodi seda kõrgemate poliitikute poolt vaadatakse.
Eriti kuna tegu otseselt sõjaväe totamise ja sõjateemade mäletamisega nagu UK enda programm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_poppy#United_States
No ma pole kindel kas see hea, aga noh, vähemalt on sinine... kuigi teame väga hästi mis moodi seda kõrgemate poliitikute poolt vaadatakse.
Eriti kuna tegu otseselt sõjaväe totamise ja sõjateemade mäletamisega nagu UK enda programm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_poppy#United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_poppy#United_States
2 May 2015 22:25
Margus Meigo commented on Anname Au's post.
Mina keelduksin poliitikuba sellise programmi ala astumisest, kui selle programmi tagamaid vaadata, eriti sele lille punaseid tagamaid, ja kelle soovitustel ja käsul see meie maale tuli.. siis hea inimene ikka hoiduks viisakalt ja meelega paneks midagi muud, näitamaks ja tekitamaks kysimust... miks
2 May 2015 22:03
Margus Meigo commented on Sandra Ashilevi's photo.
Vot see on vahva : )
2 May 2015 21:56
Margus Meigo commented on Oliver Moosus's photo.
soeng ka timm : )
2 May 2015 21:55
Margus Meigo commented on Oliver Moosus's photo.
sära ei ole teie silmis.. väsmus on.. .. ja nägu pingul.. ja kõri kange.. hmm
aga värvid on kenda : )
Kleidi värv on ka (Y)
aga värvid on kenda : )
Kleidi värv on ka (Y)
2 May 2015 21:55
Margus Meigo commented on Sandra Ashilevi's photo.
True that
2 May 2015 21:49
Margus Meigo commented on Ehab Shoman's post.
is he learned jet that this was really bad of him to go to war
I hope he has not murdered any people
(or as they call it in war "successful kills" as it would be a game)
I hope he has not murdered any people
(or as they call it in war "successful kills" as it would be a game)
1 May 2015 18:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi oluline on Naistel õppida selles maailmas siin, et senikaua kui naised aksepteerivad suitsetavaid mehi ja ise enda elu mugavamaks alkoholiga joovad, et reaalsust taluda, selle asemel, et looduslike taimedega tarkust juurde koguda selles osas, kuidas aru saada, "Miks nii oN" .. .siis siin suuri lootusi kõige olulisemate muutuste osas ei ole ega ei tule.
Ega need ROmans.. homomeeste liit niisama alla ei anna oma mitmetuhade aasta pikkust struktuuri, et inimesi liialt pika keti ottsa lasta liialt kauaks.. ainult siis kui vaja uuesti ühiskonda ülesse ehitada, uueks versiooniks.. ja siis korhavad viljasi
Ega need ROmans.. homomeeste liit niisama alla ei anna oma mitmetuhade aasta pikkust struktuuri, et inimesi liialt pika keti ottsa lasta liialt kauaks.. ainult siis kui vaja uuesti ühiskonda ülesse ehitada, uueks versiooniks.. ja siis korhavad viljasi
1 May 2015 18:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vaike piil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbAm50wcAUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbAm50wcAUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbAm50wcAUQ
1 May 2015 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on Liina Laas-Billson's post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
Tublid : )1 May 2015 16:51
Margus Meigo commented on Sergo Ulpus's post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
Oot aga kuidas nad sellele käibemaksu .. peale panna mõtlesid?1 May 2015 16:50
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Aga mina sõidan täna see_neee_gaa!
1 May 2015 05:39
Margus Meigo commented on Evelin Ilves's link.
Kuid Teile tahtsin öelda, et olete Estonishing endiselt
Ja Wellcome to Estonia (Wellcome to Eesti (mindset)) hoiame ka elus, kui inimesed aru saama hakkavad alustuseks, mis on Eesti.
Ja Wellcome to Estonia (Wellcome to Eesti (mindset)) hoiame ka elus, kui inimesed aru saama hakkavad alustuseks, mis on Eesti.
1 May 2015 03:03
Margus Meigo commented on Evelin Ilves's link.
Mõeldud siiski mehele, kirjutades mõeldes Sulle
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Ja pidage meeles, kui soovite uuesti kokku, siis täiskasvanute maailmas kes aru saavad, et kõik on võimalik (mitte ainult venemaal) siis on kõik võimalik, mis on hea.
https://plus.google.com/photos/102871056968914830739/albums/6079005956089450033/6079021005345974850?pid=6079021005345974850&oid=102871056968914830739
Ellu jääte ju seniks nagunii kui Eesti südames, kuid ainult siis hoitke seda südames, kui tunda on, et see ongi vabadus. Muidu hoiate Eesti asemel mingit loo mälestust... ja vahest peab laskma minna, et tunda. Vahest peab elama sisse, et aru saada. Soovitan siin maad harima jääda ja poest ainult hädavajalikku tuua, siis ise näed, kuidas vaim taastub võimalustes. Kunn jääb kunniks. TA pole kunagi alasti. JA tubli, et suutsite vabalt võtta ja mitte kordagi silma jääda pika orja nööri orjuses ümber kaela, vaid moe pärast, lipsuke... andmaks märki teistele, mis neil seotud on.
Eesti ongi Vabadusevalvur
Vabana võid: http://www.cfe.ee/cantus-book?code=518&l__=&l=25&a=476 Kuni viimase sõnani!
Äitah
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Ja pidage meeles, kui soovite uuesti kokku, siis täiskasvanute maailmas kes aru saavad, et kõik on võimalik (mitte ainult venemaal) siis on kõik võimalik, mis on hea.
https://plus.google.com/photos/102871056968914830739/albums/6079005956089450033/6079021005345974850?pid=6079021005345974850&oid=102871056968914830739
Ellu jääte ju seniks nagunii kui Eesti südames, kuid ainult siis hoitke seda südames, kui tunda on, et see ongi vabadus. Muidu hoiate Eesti asemel mingit loo mälestust... ja vahest peab laskma minna, et tunda. Vahest peab elama sisse, et aru saada. Soovitan siin maad harima jääda ja poest ainult hädavajalikku tuua, siis ise näed, kuidas vaim taastub võimalustes. Kunn jääb kunniks. TA pole kunagi alasti. JA tubli, et suutsite vabalt võtta ja mitte kordagi silma jääda pika orja nööri orjuses ümber kaela, vaid moe pärast, lipsuke... andmaks märki teistele, mis neil seotud on.
Eesti ongi Vabadusevalvur
Vabana võid: http://www.cfe.ee/cantus-book?code=518&l__=&l=25&a=476 Kuni viimase sõnani!
Äitah
https://plus.google.com/photos/102871056968914830739/albums/6079005956089450033/6079021005345974850?pid=6079021005345974850&oid=102871056968914830739
1 May 2015 03:01
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Hendrik Ilves's link.
Ja pidage meeles, kui soovite uuesti kokku, siis täiskasvanute maailmas kes aru saavad, et kõik on võimalik (mitte ainult venemaal) siis on kõik võimalik, mis on hea.
https://plus.google.com/photos/102871056968914830739/albums/6079005956089450033/6079021005345974850?pid=6079021005345974850&oid=102871056968914830739
Ellu jääte ju seniks nagunii kui Eesti südames, kuid ainult siis hoitke seda südames, kui tunda on, et see ongi vabadus. Muidu hoiate Eesti asemel mingit loo mälestust... ja vahest peab laskma minna, et tunda. Vahest peab elama sisse, et aru saada. Soovitan siin maad harima jääda ja poest ainult hädavajalikku tuua, siis ise näed, kuidas vaim taastub võimalustes. Kunn jääb kunniks. TA pole kunagi alasti. JA tubli, et suutsite vabalt võtta ja mitte kordagi silma jääda pika orja nööri orjuses ümber kaela, vaid moe pärast, lipsuke... andmaks märki teistele, mis neil seotud on.
Eesti ongi Vabadusevalvur
Vabana võid: http://www.cfe.ee/cantus-book?code=518&l__=&l=25&a=476 Kuni viimase sõnani!
Äitah
https://plus.google.com/photos/102871056968914830739/albums/6079005956089450033/6079021005345974850?pid=6079021005345974850&oid=102871056968914830739
Ellu jääte ju seniks nagunii kui Eesti südames, kuid ainult siis hoitke seda südames, kui tunda on, et see ongi vabadus. Muidu hoiate Eesti asemel mingit loo mälestust... ja vahest peab laskma minna, et tunda. Vahest peab elama sisse, et aru saada. Soovitan siin maad harima jääda ja poest ainult hädavajalikku tuua, siis ise näed, kuidas vaim taastub võimalustes. Kunn jääb kunniks. TA pole kunagi alasti. JA tubli, et suutsite vabalt võtta ja mitte kordagi silma jääda pika orja nööri orjuses ümber kaela, vaid moe pärast, lipsuke... andmaks märki teistele, mis neil seotud on.
Eesti ongi Vabadusevalvur
Vabana võid: http://www.cfe.ee/cantus-book?code=518&l__=&l=25&a=476 Kuni viimase sõnani!
Äitah
https://plus.google.com/photos/102871056968914830739/albums/6079005956089450033/6079021005345974850?pid=6079021005345974850&oid=102871056968914830739
1 May 2015 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
Su väiksed lendusrid tagataustal ?
1 May 2015 01:32
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Rääkides tulest, siis tänase volbri tune on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckX-nksbPlk
sobib mõlematpidi laulmaks
sobib mõlematpidi laulmaks
1 May 2015 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
oot see uus nõid?
Vana keedab palderjani nahkhiire borssi pajal?
Igagahes, anna minna, volber ikkagi, lenda õigetesse kohtadesse, selgel meeletul julgel silmil ja kui hommikul selge silmaga saad püsti tõusta ja naeratada.. et Vot see oli Õige teema.. siis õigesse kohta lendasid, ei lennanud liialt kiiresti ega nõrgalt
võluvõel simsiribimm maailmsätitakse kraad paremaks edaspidi, .. .ja kui muidu paremaks ei saa koputa nuiaga vanahabemiku uksele ja küsi "kaua võib"
Vana keedab palderjani nahkhiire borssi pajal?
Igagahes, anna minna, volber ikkagi, lenda õigetesse kohtadesse, selgel meeletul julgel silmil ja kui hommikul selge silmaga saad püsti tõusta ja naeratada.. et Vot see oli Õige teema.. siis õigesse kohta lendasid, ei lennanud liialt kiiresti ega nõrgalt
võluvõel simsiribimm maailmsätitakse kraad paremaks edaspidi, .. .ja kui muidu paremaks ei saa koputa nuiaga vanahabemiku uksele ja küsi "kaua võib"
1 May 2015 01:23
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
hahaha.. marko täiega, kõva tuli turjas ja Like a Boss (pildi lisa tule osas)
võib neid maiseid nõidasi talutada küll :P
Kusjuures ma vaatasin, et tal peakohal nagu rist või mingi kiri või asi tagataustal puudest ja sellest tühjast kohast, kenalt veider, ilus, pilt ideaalselt poolitatud, kaugele ulatav maailma visioon ja tuli mis sinna viib ja loodus kes naeratades paremalt poolelt ikka toetab sedasi kuidas vaja, sest ega isegi tuli ilma veeta ela
võib neid maiseid nõidasi talutada küll :P
Kusjuures ma vaatasin, et tal peakohal nagu rist või mingi kiri või asi tagataustal puudest ja sellest tühjast kohast, kenalt veider, ilus, pilt ideaalselt poolitatud, kaugele ulatav maailma visioon ja tuli mis sinna viib ja loodus kes naeratades paremalt poolelt ikka toetab sedasi kuidas vaja, sest ega isegi tuli ilma veeta ela
1 May 2015 01:18
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Oi Oi : )
1 May 2015 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckX-nksbPlk (kuulata miinus x0.25 kiiruses)
Seda sama laulu sobib enamuse osas ka laulda ImmanuEl
http://www.slideshare.net/PsychedelicExperience/439-dagmar20-kase1naisiguslusfeminism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckX-nksbPlk (kuulata miinus x0.25 kiiruses)
Seda sama laulu sobib enamuse osas ka laulda ImmanuEl
http://www.slideshare.net/PsychedelicExperience/439-dagmar20-kase1naisiguslusfeminism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckX-nksbPlk
30 April 2015 23:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Eestlastele, pehmemas, tavapärasemas keeles.. hellalt.. tõsistest asjadest (artiklilõpus oluline asi koduloomade kohta ka)
http://kogujamees.blogspot.com/2013/12/karbseseene-psuhhedeelne-maagia.html ja weel:
"Koos seenevaimuga muutub kontaktseks kogu loodus, iga lehekese ümber on helendav nimbus, taimed, elukad ja haldjarahvas annavad vihjeid ja juhatusi ekstaatilise õndsuse leitsakus. Minu arvates on see muinasjuttudest teada seisund, kui inimene omandab mingitel asjaoludel näiteks lindude keele. Täiesti erilised mõõtmed võib omandada seeneteekond siis, kui sinna kaasa võtta mõne tuttava looma. Olen seal käinud nii oma koera ja kassiga. Loomadele ei ole vaja seent sisse sööta, nemad korjavad selle üles otse eetrist, piisab kui nende peremees on tarvitanud ja neile lähedal püsib. Sellises seisundis on nad näidanud mulle asju, millele..."
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/punane-karbseseen-mojub-nagu-pudel-olut?id=33672777
http://psychotropicon.info/et/6-psychedelic-trips-from-legal-drugs/
http://www.para-web.org/archive/index.php/thread-7958.html
http://www.telegram.ee/tag/psuhhedeelne
Äitäh ja Amps Amps
http://kogujamees.blogspot.com/2013/12/karbseseene-psuhhedeelne-maagia.html ja weel:
"Koos seenevaimuga muutub kontaktseks kogu loodus, iga lehekese ümber on helendav nimbus, taimed, elukad ja haldjarahvas annavad vihjeid ja juhatusi ekstaatilise õndsuse leitsakus. Minu arvates on see muinasjuttudest teada seisund, kui inimene omandab mingitel asjaoludel näiteks lindude keele. Täiesti erilised mõõtmed võib omandada seeneteekond siis, kui sinna kaasa võtta mõne tuttava looma. Olen seal käinud nii oma koera ja kassiga. Loomadele ei ole vaja seent sisse sööta, nemad korjavad selle üles otse eetrist, piisab kui nende peremees on tarvitanud ja neile lähedal püsib. Sellises seisundis on nad näidanud mulle asju, millele..."
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/punane-karbseseen-mojub-nagu-pudel-olut?id=33672777
http://psychotropicon.info/et/6-psychedelic-trips-from-legal-drugs/
http://www.para-web.org/archive/index.php/thread-7958.html
http://www.telegram.ee/tag/psuhhedeelne
Äitäh ja Amps Amps
http://kogujamees.blogspot.com/2013/12/karbseseene-psuhhedeelne-maagia.html
30 April 2015 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More like it, a bit:
"Eating amanita, people can easily come into contact with the spirits, take on some of their mystical powers, and sometimes may even get yourself (feel like) fungi. Apparently, only the individual is likely physiologically predisposed individuals, one of the permanent incentives to accept fly agaric was precisely the desire for contact with the spirit world, finding new mystical possibilities granted by the spirits of the elements."
"Drying in an oven or the oven is not recommended.Drying is a must - with toxic ibotenic acid is converted into less toxic muscimol, which in large part explains the effect of the fungus.Once the mushrooms are completely dry, store them in a dry place at room temperature."
(smoking is a bit waste.)
"The effects of smoking toadstools are much softer than that of oral administration. Sometimes they are almost invisible, sometimes it's a sense of uplift your mood and an excess of vitality and energy."
" If you use small pieces of torn, carefully chewed and swallowed with water. In Koryak was distributed custom, when a woman chews the fungus and gives the man swallowed the cud. In Western Siberia, fly agaric eating raw or drinking a decoction of dried mushrooms."
http://www.spellsofmagic.com/coven_ritual.html?ritual=2136&coven=6
"Eating amanita, people can easily come into contact with the spirits, take on some of their mystical powers, and sometimes may even get yourself (feel like) fungi. Apparently, only the individual is likely physiologically predisposed individuals, one of the permanent incentives to accept fly agaric was precisely the desire for contact with the spirit world, finding new mystical possibilities granted by the spirits of the elements."
"Drying in an oven or the oven is not recommended.Drying is a must - with toxic ibotenic acid is converted into less toxic muscimol, which in large part explains the effect of the fungus.Once the mushrooms are completely dry, store them in a dry place at room temperature."
(smoking is a bit waste.)
"The effects of smoking toadstools are much softer than that of oral administration. Sometimes they are almost invisible, sometimes it's a sense of uplift your mood and an excess of vitality and energy."
" If you use small pieces of torn, carefully chewed and swallowed with water. In Koryak was distributed custom, when a woman chews the fungus and gives the man swallowed the cud. In Western Siberia, fly agaric eating raw or drinking a decoction of dried mushrooms."
http://www.spellsofmagic.com/coven_ritual.html?ritual=2136&coven=6
http://www.spellsofmagic.com/coven_ritual.html?ritual=2136&coven=6
30 April 2015 23:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Aga mis nimede listist siis arvate.. ja kuidas on sedasi, et päris nime järgi üldse ei kutsuta?
Minuarust parim list mida siiani näinud olen30 April 2015 22:30
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Kant's post.
Group: Kristlased
ning meestele eraldi veel: et oskaksime naist tunnetada
ja aru saada, et see on enamuse õnnelikuse alus
kui elame oma teise poolega sedasi, nagu Loodud
noh.. mis ma tegelt tea.. lisan oma uniseid mõtteid siia vahele, kuigi need asjad vist juba öeldud30 April 2015 22:29
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Kant's post.
Group: Kristlased
ja loomulikult, et tunneksime Loodust mis ta meile loonud ja taimi30 April 2015 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Kant's post.
Group: Kristlased
Jumalal vaja, et ise oma mähkmeid õpiksime vahetama ja oskaksime erinevate vaimude ja sookollidega läbi käia, tööd tea.. ja mitte iga ühega põõsaalla minna kes argivahe tuksuma paneb30 April 2015 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Helme's photo.
Ja martin, ära hekekski arva, et ma siin ennast Sulle vastandan, pigem aitan Sul oma tegeliku võimu ja haaret laiendada, aksepteerides tegelike võimustruktuure ja olulisust mis maid ja taevaid siin jagatakse.
NIng KUI olulise maa osas me siin sõna võtame, ikkagi, üks maailma olulisemaid, ja vaimu poolest üks suuremaid kultuure, kui keegi vaevub ainult ennast hetkeks piisavalt väikseks teha, et pugeks sisse muudest salaustest ja näha neid muid maailmasi ja asju millega tegelikult vanad eestlased seotud on.. ja mille osas ehk näpuotsaga eesti Suurloos võib teid aidata.. sest ka nemad.. saavad need olema, kes USA ja Inglismaa suurloosidele saavad kunagi ütlema, kuidas asjad olema hakkavad. Ja kuidas nad on olnud
(muidugi kui te vaimumaailma osas väga pädev pole siis te ei pruugi aru saada kes mis vaimuküüsis on, seega ei pruugi te aru saada kes mis loosi osast miks mida räägib, kui endal moraali tunnetus pole 100+
nende esindus rääkija näiteks on pandud selline kelles kubiseb kohe palju seda mida me ei istuta...)
http://eestisl.ee/ ... kuid nemad nagu Kirik, mida me aksepteerisime,
Nagu nõukogude liit mida me kasutasime.. kuid me olime juba ammu, Sumerite ajast enne.. ja senikaua kui siin elatakse väljamõeldud üheelu lühiduses arusaamas... siis vaadatakse teid kui mööduvaid puulehti.. tuleb ikka oma maa Vaimule vastavas suuruses olla vastutuses, nii sõnade, tegude kui ka tunnetuse osas
Selle pildi põhjal võib öelda, et kuigi näpuotsaga on nukrust ja mõrudust tagasihoidlikus tõusvas rõõmus (nagukeskooli lõpetamise ootuse rõõm ülikooli minnes, sutsu kartes, kuid vastu minnes saatusele..), siis vähemalt pahasi asju ei kubise, seni kuni sa oma juukseid pole kõrvadetagant pügama hakanud ja lipsust proovid kunagi vabaneda.. siis Sinu najale saab toetada küll.
Kuigi isal on muud kilbid tugevamad on tal muidu juba aegajalt märgata olnud meedias teatud vaimu nakkuseid mis ta külge ennast pookida proovinud.. kuid eks kui ei ole surma tõbi, siissaab ikka EESTI OMADEST TERAVPALJAKUTEST abi... sest nad avavad tee ja arusaama muude seente ja taimede juurde. See ongi see, mis on TEGELIK Eestlus, mida see globaalne süsteem igatpidi olematuks proovib matta. Need VÄGA tsised asjad, mitte pehmikute hippide asjad nagu üritatakse naerda, et teemat mujale viia..
Uuri.. tunneta.. ja siis tead, kui usud õigesti, et see Maa on püha ja Looduse Loojalt : )
NIng KUI olulise maa osas me siin sõna võtame, ikkagi, üks maailma olulisemaid, ja vaimu poolest üks suuremaid kultuure, kui keegi vaevub ainult ennast hetkeks piisavalt väikseks teha, et pugeks sisse muudest salaustest ja näha neid muid maailmasi ja asju millega tegelikult vanad eestlased seotud on.. ja mille osas ehk näpuotsaga eesti Suurloos võib teid aidata.. sest ka nemad.. saavad need olema, kes USA ja Inglismaa suurloosidele saavad kunagi ütlema, kuidas asjad olema hakkavad. Ja kuidas nad on olnud
(muidugi kui te vaimumaailma osas väga pädev pole siis te ei pruugi aru saada kes mis vaimuküüsis on, seega ei pruugi te aru saada kes mis loosi osast miks mida räägib, kui endal moraali tunnetus pole 100+
nende esindus rääkija näiteks on pandud selline kelles kubiseb kohe palju seda mida me ei istuta...)
http://eestisl.ee/ ... kuid nemad nagu Kirik, mida me aksepteerisime,
Nagu nõukogude liit mida me kasutasime.. kuid me olime juba ammu, Sumerite ajast enne.. ja senikaua kui siin elatakse väljamõeldud üheelu lühiduses arusaamas... siis vaadatakse teid kui mööduvaid puulehti.. tuleb ikka oma maa Vaimule vastavas suuruses olla vastutuses, nii sõnade, tegude kui ka tunnetuse osas
Selle pildi põhjal võib öelda, et kuigi näpuotsaga on nukrust ja mõrudust tagasihoidlikus tõusvas rõõmus (nagukeskooli lõpetamise ootuse rõõm ülikooli minnes, sutsu kartes, kuid vastu minnes saatusele..), siis vähemalt pahasi asju ei kubise, seni kuni sa oma juukseid pole kõrvadetagant pügama hakanud ja lipsust proovid kunagi vabaneda.. siis Sinu najale saab toetada küll.
Kuigi isal on muud kilbid tugevamad on tal muidu juba aegajalt märgata olnud meedias teatud vaimu nakkuseid mis ta külge ennast pookida proovinud.. kuid eks kui ei ole surma tõbi, siissaab ikka EESTI OMADEST TERAVPALJAKUTEST abi... sest nad avavad tee ja arusaama muude seente ja taimede juurde. See ongi see, mis on TEGELIK Eestlus, mida see globaalne süsteem igatpidi olematuks proovib matta. Need VÄGA tsised asjad, mitte pehmikute hippide asjad nagu üritatakse naerda, et teemat mujale viia..
Uuri.. tunneta.. ja siis tead, kui usud õigesti, et see Maa on püha ja Looduse Loojalt : )
http://eestisl.ee/
30 April 2015 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Helme's photo.
Muidugi tegelikult EKREt hoiab elus riigi võimu õõnestamiseks Keskerakond kui päris aus olla, (ainuüksi eetriaeg kokku lugeda, siis just keskerakond aka meie kultuuri Kukutava võimu partei kes on allilma elus hoidnud ja otseselt riigi kulul sõitnud aegade algusest meelega oppositsioonis olles).
Kogu see väljamõeldud "ekre vastased" ja ohvrit mängimine samal ajal ise otseselt lamedalt solvates kogu riiki.
Võimuliitudel selge plaan oli ekret kui oma sõpra hoida kuid siis hakkasid mitmed te liikmed avalikult oma riiki ja kultuuri sõimama (arusaamata, et see 100% salvestatud välismeediasse, kes seda omas mõttes maailmapildis kasutab..)
Kui see analoog ei meeldi siis võib teisipidi küsida, MILLISELE erakonnale on Ekre praegu KÕIGE kasulikum? Vastus jälle: Keskerakond
Aga küsime siis muud pidi, mis erakond on ekre kaitseks kõige rohkem sõna võtnud.. Keskerakond
Või mis teine erakond on TÄPSELT sama laulu laulnud ja SAMU teisi erakondasi, samade asjadega süüdistanud kui ekre? Umm.. Vali Keskerakond vastuseks?
Millise erakonna vastu, suurtest erakondadest, on EKRE kõige vähem sõna võtnud, tuues välja midagi olulist ja halvavat?
Jälle.. sama vastus. Keskerakond
Ja ma ei ütle, et see halb on, ma ammu mõelnud, et see kasulik erakond, kuigi peidetud maafia ja luure struktuuriga,
ikkagi suurim REAALNE erakond ju (ekre pole veel kahte valmisiaegagi olnud).. ja eks kellegilt peab abi paljuma ja kellegi najale toetama ja kellegi käske täitma ja soovitusi (kuigi suurem osa neid "originaalseid ekre vaateid" on juba ammu ekresse istutatud agentide kaudu kes ennast varakult ekre sildiall sisse seadnud.. ).. no sellised ideed, et "võimuparteide" vastu loopida ja et ennast ohvriks teha, et siis keegi teid kommeteerida ei julgeks.
Mis oleks juhutunud näiteks kui Mart Laar või Lagle Parek või .. kes iganes neist oleks telefoni varastanud või purjus peaga naiste ruumidesse sisse murda üritanud?
Kuigi viimane lugu ehksutsu paisutatud kuna pole naist veel ise kohanud, kuid miks arvata, et sellised lood märkamatuks jäävad?
Kuid kuna EKREs on mitmeid targemaid ja vanemaid olijaid, kes TEAVAD vaikselt, milline olukord tegelikult on, siis .. siis mul ikkagi lootust, ja usku, et EKRE saab aru mis mängu ja milleks läbi nende mängitakse, kasutades neid "isamaalise" kilbina samal ajal õõnestades tagalaid muude jõudude kaudu.
( Kandoomina teiste... oli algne väljend, seniks kuni vaja.. )
Lubades (soovitades, ka oma sise inimeste kaudu) EKREL suures osas rääkida ainult nedest asjadest mis on kasulikud venemaale, Eesti riigi ja kultuuri õõnestamiseks, ehk siis omade tagarääkimine, ründamine, häbistamine, süüdistamine, halisemine ja oma riigi vastu usaldamatuse tekitamine ning inimeste EKRestamine.. eraldamine st.
Kuid jah, ma endiselt veendunud, et te vanad kalad on selle vene skeemi läbi ammustanud,
(kui nad tähele pannud, et SAMA skeemi muudes riikides kasutatakse.. et 30 aasta takka uued tööriistad panna pukki, keda saab lipsupidi hoida lõoa otsas, sest nad ju aitasid ja kes seda saladust tahab.. et avalikuks tuleks..).
Neid skeeme Rooma struktuuridel toimiv sõjaliit ammu kasutatud mitmetuhande aasta vältel (kasutades rahva oma hinge nende endi hävitamiseks, meeiltades nad võitlusesse ja upitades nende uhkust, pannes unustama, kust nende juured on ja mida vanasti mõeldi..)
Vanad trikid, igasuguste riikide ja võimude õõnestamiseks (ja nad selles osas alati saavad paremaks, osaliselt teeseldes, et nad taandunud, kuid jättes oma relvad siia mille kaudu asju juhivad (ehk siis "demokraatia ja salajased valimised" ning Greeka usuvastane haridussüsteem ja Meele-LAHUTSU.. ..))
MIks EKRE päris Eestlastena, ei suru jätkuvalt NEID ideid, mis kohe KUIDAGI pättidele ei sobi.. ehk siis AVALIKE HÄÄLETAMISI? Ehk AVALIK HÄÄLETUS
Selle asemel, et nõuda totrusi nagu E hääletuse lõpetamist mis pettused ilmsiks tooks saaks nõuda AVALIKE E HÄÄLETUSI..mis imelihtne ja ODAVAM teha...
(salajane võib silnna lisaks olla alguses, näitamaks, hästi kuhu need hääled on kandunud kes häbenevad oma ausat valikut..).
Eestlaslus on palkmajad, maakaevaud, ja eelkõige taimetarkus. Shamaani ja nõia tarkused MUUDE ILMADE osas kes tegelikult siin maid jagavad ja meil aegajalt olla lasevad...
Ning alati teiste liitmine mitte liitude tegemine teiste vastu.
Eestlaslus on ausus ja sõjalisuse asemel vastase aitamine, et neid ravida nende haiguse osas, südamega, armastusega
Kogu see väljamõeldud "ekre vastased" ja ohvrit mängimine samal ajal ise otseselt lamedalt solvates kogu riiki.
Võimuliitudel selge plaan oli ekret kui oma sõpra hoida kuid siis hakkasid mitmed te liikmed avalikult oma riiki ja kultuuri sõimama (arusaamata, et see 100% salvestatud välismeediasse, kes seda omas mõttes maailmapildis kasutab..)
Kui see analoog ei meeldi siis võib teisipidi küsida, MILLISELE erakonnale on Ekre praegu KÕIGE kasulikum? Vastus jälle: Keskerakond
Aga küsime siis muud pidi, mis erakond on ekre kaitseks kõige rohkem sõna võtnud.. Keskerakond
Või mis teine erakond on TÄPSELT sama laulu laulnud ja SAMU teisi erakondasi, samade asjadega süüdistanud kui ekre? Umm.. Vali Keskerakond vastuseks?
Millise erakonna vastu, suurtest erakondadest, on EKRE kõige vähem sõna võtnud, tuues välja midagi olulist ja halvavat?
Jälle.. sama vastus. Keskerakond
Ja ma ei ütle, et see halb on, ma ammu mõelnud, et see kasulik erakond, kuigi peidetud maafia ja luure struktuuriga,
ikkagi suurim REAALNE erakond ju (ekre pole veel kahte valmisiaegagi olnud).. ja eks kellegilt peab abi paljuma ja kellegi najale toetama ja kellegi käske täitma ja soovitusi (kuigi suurem osa neid "originaalseid ekre vaateid" on juba ammu ekresse istutatud agentide kaudu kes ennast varakult ekre sildiall sisse seadnud.. ).. no sellised ideed, et "võimuparteide" vastu loopida ja et ennast ohvriks teha, et siis keegi teid kommeteerida ei julgeks.
Mis oleks juhutunud näiteks kui Mart Laar või Lagle Parek või .. kes iganes neist oleks telefoni varastanud või purjus peaga naiste ruumidesse sisse murda üritanud?
Kuigi viimane lugu ehksutsu paisutatud kuna pole naist veel ise kohanud, kuid miks arvata, et sellised lood märkamatuks jäävad?
Kuid kuna EKREs on mitmeid targemaid ja vanemaid olijaid, kes TEAVAD vaikselt, milline olukord tegelikult on, siis .. siis mul ikkagi lootust, ja usku, et EKRE saab aru mis mängu ja milleks läbi nende mängitakse, kasutades neid "isamaalise" kilbina samal ajal õõnestades tagalaid muude jõudude kaudu.
( Kandoomina teiste... oli algne väljend, seniks kuni vaja.. )
Lubades (soovitades, ka oma sise inimeste kaudu) EKREL suures osas rääkida ainult nedest asjadest mis on kasulikud venemaale, Eesti riigi ja kultuuri õõnestamiseks, ehk siis omade tagarääkimine, ründamine, häbistamine, süüdistamine, halisemine ja oma riigi vastu usaldamatuse tekitamine ning inimeste EKRestamine.. eraldamine st.
Kuid jah, ma endiselt veendunud, et te vanad kalad on selle vene skeemi läbi ammustanud,
(kui nad tähele pannud, et SAMA skeemi muudes riikides kasutatakse.. et 30 aasta takka uued tööriistad panna pukki, keda saab lipsupidi hoida lõoa otsas, sest nad ju aitasid ja kes seda saladust tahab.. et avalikuks tuleks..).
Neid skeeme Rooma struktuuridel toimiv sõjaliit ammu kasutatud mitmetuhande aasta vältel (kasutades rahva oma hinge nende endi hävitamiseks, meeiltades nad võitlusesse ja upitades nende uhkust, pannes unustama, kust nende juured on ja mida vanasti mõeldi..)
Vanad trikid, igasuguste riikide ja võimude õõnestamiseks (ja nad selles osas alati saavad paremaks, osaliselt teeseldes, et nad taandunud, kuid jättes oma relvad siia mille kaudu asju juhivad (ehk siis "demokraatia ja salajased valimised" ning Greeka usuvastane haridussüsteem ja Meele-LAHUTSU.. ..))
MIks EKRE päris Eestlastena, ei suru jätkuvalt NEID ideid, mis kohe KUIDAGI pättidele ei sobi.. ehk siis AVALIKE HÄÄLETAMISI? Ehk AVALIK HÄÄLETUS
Selle asemel, et nõuda totrusi nagu E hääletuse lõpetamist mis pettused ilmsiks tooks saaks nõuda AVALIKE E HÄÄLETUSI..mis imelihtne ja ODAVAM teha...
(salajane võib silnna lisaks olla alguses, näitamaks, hästi kuhu need hääled on kandunud kes häbenevad oma ausat valikut..).
Eestlaslus on palkmajad, maakaevaud, ja eelkõige taimetarkus. Shamaani ja nõia tarkused MUUDE ILMADE osas kes tegelikult siin maid jagavad ja meil aegajalt olla lasevad...
Ning alati teiste liitmine mitte liitude tegemine teiste vastu.
Eestlaslus on ausus ja sõjalisuse asemel vastase aitamine, et neid ravida nende haiguse osas, südamega, armastusega
30 April 2015 17:53
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
that what he was thinking
30 April 2015 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
so did he?
29 April 2015 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Helme's photo.
Mul endal ka oli, siidist ja enda keha järgi õmmeldud: http://www.rate.ee/show.php?id=8766149
mõnus riideese, see pinsak, kuid igasugused alussärgid, tegelikult ka juba on piiravad, kuigi siiani veel meie treenitud ajutele tundub nagu "ilus" oleks.
Tegelikult on ikka ilusad riided praktilised, vastupidavad ja kergesti selga pandavad ja ära võetavad (kui just mingi eri rahvariietuse kostüümiga või muude eri riietustega.)
Igapäevaseks kasutuseks, ühsikonna jaoks enda varukaid nööpida, teravat särgikraed sättida ja poomis orja nööri rituaalset sümboli kaela siduda, TEISTE jaoks (sest kellegil, meil endal lipsu praktiliselt üli harva vaja läheb, suu pühkimiseks või mingite asjade sidumiseks... iluga pole midagi pistmist, isegi mustrid on robotlikud enamustel lipsudel ... )
Kuid keegi pani mu pinsaku pihta koos mantli ja muude nö korralike riiete ning ju siis peab nii olema, puudust pole tundnud rohkem kui emotsionaalset (võtan riideid kui oma sõpru ja hoian neid alles ajas rändamiseks) .
Kuid muidu suurema osa inimesi olen tahtnud sellisest ülemaailmsest programmist vabastada küll.
What connects communists and capitalists? a Tie
(and a Pentagram) ... ega meile ise ei öelda, et me oleme, Neile piisab lihtsalt teadmisest, et me ei tea, karvade ära ajamine ka umbes samal põhjusel ja samade organisatsioonide kaudu..juba Rooma ajast.. : )
mõnus riideese, see pinsak, kuid igasugused alussärgid, tegelikult ka juba on piiravad, kuigi siiani veel meie treenitud ajutele tundub nagu "ilus" oleks.
Tegelikult on ikka ilusad riided praktilised, vastupidavad ja kergesti selga pandavad ja ära võetavad (kui just mingi eri rahvariietuse kostüümiga või muude eri riietustega.)
Igapäevaseks kasutuseks, ühsikonna jaoks enda varukaid nööpida, teravat särgikraed sättida ja poomis orja nööri rituaalset sümboli kaela siduda, TEISTE jaoks (sest kellegil, meil endal lipsu praktiliselt üli harva vaja läheb, suu pühkimiseks või mingite asjade sidumiseks... iluga pole midagi pistmist, isegi mustrid on robotlikud enamustel lipsudel ... )
Kuid keegi pani mu pinsaku pihta koos mantli ja muude nö korralike riiete ning ju siis peab nii olema, puudust pole tundnud rohkem kui emotsionaalset (võtan riideid kui oma sõpru ja hoian neid alles ajas rändamiseks) .
Kuid muidu suurema osa inimesi olen tahtnud sellisest ülemaailmsest programmist vabastada küll.
What connects communists and capitalists? a Tie
(and a Pentagram) ... ega meile ise ei öelda, et me oleme, Neile piisab lihtsalt teadmisest, et me ei tea, karvade ära ajamine ka umbes samal põhjusel ja samade organisatsioonide kaudu..juba Rooma ajast.. : )
http://www.rate.ee/show.php?id=8766149
28 April 2015 21:54
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Helme's photo.
see on üks samm viisnurga kandmisest (või noh, teisi pidi vaadates, madalam versioon viisnurgast, sest just nemad selle "moe" tekitasid sajandeid tagasi inimeste märgistamiseks)
28 April 2015 21:40
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Helme's photo.
Soeta soeta, peaasi, et lipsu ette ei pane
28 April 2015 21:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But for excuse:
"“Currently, the development of cyber capabilities across the military is relatively uncoordinated . . . The result is redundant systems not well aligned with mission needs and requirements.” –Zheng
Denise E. Zheng, Deputy Director of the Strategic Technologies Program, answers critical questions on the 2015 Department of Defense cyber strategy report. Read her full analysis here: cs.is/1boBBxK "
"“Currently, the development of cyber capabilities across the military is relatively uncoordinated . . . The result is redundant systems not well aligned with mission needs and requirements.” –Zheng
Denise E. Zheng, Deputy Director of the Strategic Technologies Program, answers critical questions on the 2015 Department of Defense cyber strategy report. Read her full analysis here: cs.is/1boBBxK "
http://cs.is/1boBBxK
28 April 2015 18:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Comment "CSIS a front for US policy. They showed their true colors in a tweet to Amnesty International."
@Amnesty: "US can't tell other countries to improve their records on policing and peaceful assembly if it won't clean up its own human rights record"
In reply- @CSIS: "@amnesty Your work has saved far fewer lives than Americans interventions. So, suck it."
@Amnesty: "US can't tell other countries to improve their records on policing and peaceful assembly if it won't clean up its own human rights record"
In reply- @CSIS: "@amnesty Your work has saved far fewer lives than Americans interventions. So, suck it."
28 April 2015 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
donotake it to personallˇy
28 April 2015 18:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
If two people agree on truth, then they are much more able to prove it to others, it stars all always from the second person
28 April 2015 17:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I do not know any priest in Earth yet, who has put them self up as God, even Alister Crownly (as a priest) agreed to humble when time come, so with Rasputin, Lao Tzu and who else?. It is really simple to prove: there has not been any priest as god but god has been in everything that is needed as long needed.
But Jesus himself was nothing even near to God in most of hes period as how else could "devil try to tempt him" ?
That would be retarded to imagine, that "devils whole sum" can go to "God manifested as person" and tell him "hey i give all of yourself to you, and worlds you have made, i give to you as well...." what a .. ?
For that silly joke, if God would be short tempered would just slap the offer giver silly and tell "go back to do your job what i ordered to you and stop crazy talk before am replace you before time "
that's when we imagine ,that happened in Human language realm. in this human brain plot.
how is that related to masturbation,
oh.. how You mean " I don't think masturbate .. is any-one's affair"
when that bothers life of all beings, as it creates ghost souls
or helps man to engage with representative tasks on age when wasted sperm can be sold in another species for life experiment
or waster energy and self worth of man by lowering hes self worth and wasting sexual energy, so when having sex with women they also do it in lover level...
but in most normal human language, it just lowers our standard to communism, materialistic, machine worship mind that is not able to see life energy or anything higher related to sperm then just.. napkins to wipe it off and calm mind for to the next moment.
Instead on curing them self feeding addiction.
And also, most people who masturbate, make common mistakes of thinking of other women's who would not be liked that someone is thinking of them (man should only allow them self think sexual about women they know, they allowed... gos also along the lines making sin in a mind, what you have done in mind you have indicated, done at times for real as well in connected worlds so to speak..)
and not only that, but they also imagine to often, that other beings in another frequency does not see them masturbating, including any beings from other side, as man alone can not make private room, only with a women this privacy is allowed,
this is also perhaps .. one of the few reasons, man was smart enough to not mention or go in to what they think about female masturbation, as for them, it is different subject, they not waste life energy with it and that's not mans domain according to Torah, masturbation prohibition only directly is to man.
It is so logical,
it is like eating meat, is not really allowed at all, however there is some level of spiritual involvement needed for people to see this,first we need to know that killing a human is no good, and then animals, birds, fish, insects... and then the highest level and smartest beings of all: plants.
But to get to that level, that we only eat these plants that Plants GIVE "to us" .. and then.. well lets stop in here, it is good enough when we at least reach that level for starters. And we will.
But Jesus himself was nothing even near to God in most of hes period as how else could "devil try to tempt him" ?
That would be retarded to imagine, that "devils whole sum" can go to "God manifested as person" and tell him "hey i give all of yourself to you, and worlds you have made, i give to you as well...." what a .. ?
For that silly joke, if God would be short tempered would just slap the offer giver silly and tell "go back to do your job what i ordered to you and stop crazy talk before am replace you before time "
that's when we imagine ,that happened in Human language realm. in this human brain plot.
how is that related to masturbation,
oh.. how You mean " I don't think masturbate .. is any-one's affair"
when that bothers life of all beings, as it creates ghost souls
or helps man to engage with representative tasks on age when wasted sperm can be sold in another species for life experiment
or waster energy and self worth of man by lowering hes self worth and wasting sexual energy, so when having sex with women they also do it in lover level...
but in most normal human language, it just lowers our standard to communism, materialistic, machine worship mind that is not able to see life energy or anything higher related to sperm then just.. napkins to wipe it off and calm mind for to the next moment.
Instead on curing them self feeding addiction.
And also, most people who masturbate, make common mistakes of thinking of other women's who would not be liked that someone is thinking of them (man should only allow them self think sexual about women they know, they allowed... gos also along the lines making sin in a mind, what you have done in mind you have indicated, done at times for real as well in connected worlds so to speak..)
and not only that, but they also imagine to often, that other beings in another frequency does not see them masturbating, including any beings from other side, as man alone can not make private room, only with a women this privacy is allowed,
this is also perhaps .. one of the few reasons, man was smart enough to not mention or go in to what they think about female masturbation, as for them, it is different subject, they not waste life energy with it and that's not mans domain according to Torah, masturbation prohibition only directly is to man.
It is so logical,
it is like eating meat, is not really allowed at all, however there is some level of spiritual involvement needed for people to see this,first we need to know that killing a human is no good, and then animals, birds, fish, insects... and then the highest level and smartest beings of all: plants.
But to get to that level, that we only eat these plants that Plants GIVE "to us" .. and then.. well lets stop in here, it is good enough when we at least reach that level for starters. And we will.
28 April 2015 16:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The logo is a bit copˇy and red lights pornˇy
kidsˇy and twosixˇˇy
but for sure there is a good explanation for that
after all Snowman was key speaker so it must be real
must it really, after long open-doors days ?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/HOPE_X_Badge.jpg
kidsˇy and twosixˇˇy
but for sure there is a good explanation for that
after all Snowman was key speaker so it must be real
must it really, after long open-doors days ?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/HOPE_X_Badge.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/HOPE_X_Badge.jpg
28 April 2015 12:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kanepiseemnete turg
Sedasi meil siin planeedil välja suitsetada proovivad, lastes huiaritel sigineda28 April 2015 10:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but its still much warmer then our irony
28 April 2015 03:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
smoking was long time ago, still works, must be proper28 April 2015 03:42
Margus Meigo commented on Tod Gemuese's post.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
Well, now is our hands to send them proper recommendations
(but as its nuclear.. there is still time..)28 April 2015 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
have you felt a smell of diesel in your throat lately?
28 April 2015 03:31
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Hendrik Ilves's album.
Kas Lennu oli ise ka kohal,
kas oli tunda?
kas oli tunda?
28 April 2015 02:36
Margus Meigo replied to Elmo Puidet's comment.
ärge veristama küll seekord hakake
tuleb aru saada, et me võitjad enne algust
kuid mäng on ka kõiki teisi aidata lõpusirgele
et avastada valgust
tuleb aru saada, et me võitjad enne algust
kuid mäng on ka kõiki teisi aidata lõpusirgele
et avastada valgust
28 April 2015 02:34
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
..this was nice body till i had it.. ")
27 April 2015 13:47
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
The one that BJ him or the other one thinking "this guy has no idea what he is doing, time to get going from here"
27 April 2015 13:46
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
We can not be so retarded, that when court finds someone of not being guilty that then this is how it is. only shamanic plants can tell and Clear Seeyers (sensitives, telepathy people, witches etc) how it is (for human world,our tools..also new age Lie Detectors will do..but they not work so well on advanced spirits), and usually, when Guy has put hes dick in a women who did not want ti later on, then guy IS guilty, does not matter what he imagines later on.
At times there is enough to see if guy behavior is retarded by normal common sense.
This is not some Fun thing that women can come up with against man, only when they are deeply possessed or messed up in brain... and then she needs soul help and then is matters already sad... about this person who made her so messed up.. and the quilt is still.
yes, rare times innocent guys (who's that?) get also blame,but we should be able to receive it with love, on the name of all the women who suffer for us. As species.
Anyone who pisses women off after sex so much that women tell something like that about them (even if it "was not happening") then this guy is fully on fault, and when a man is not able to solve it on real life with real openings of himself, then... what man it is..
any-man that has sleep more then one women is already, also on fault for not knowing, any man who sleep with more then one wife and they hurt anyone by it, then they are in great error, and these who intentionally hurt or do not care about hurt.. should we keep them alive for long among earth species?
Most Man who hurt women on purpose, has hidden homo genes inside. As it is complex related to their own mother also.
Oh.. this topic go to long
At times there is enough to see if guy behavior is retarded by normal common sense.
This is not some Fun thing that women can come up with against man, only when they are deeply possessed or messed up in brain... and then she needs soul help and then is matters already sad... about this person who made her so messed up.. and the quilt is still.
yes, rare times innocent guys (who's that?) get also blame,but we should be able to receive it with love, on the name of all the women who suffer for us. As species.
Anyone who pisses women off after sex so much that women tell something like that about them (even if it "was not happening") then this guy is fully on fault, and when a man is not able to solve it on real life with real openings of himself, then... what man it is..
any-man that has sleep more then one women is already, also on fault for not knowing, any man who sleep with more then one wife and they hurt anyone by it, then they are in great error, and these who intentionally hurt or do not care about hurt.. should we keep them alive for long among earth species?
Most Man who hurt women on purpose, has hidden homo genes inside. As it is complex related to their own mother also.
Oh.. this topic go to long
27 April 2015 13:43
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
i think she is a bit to white to be alive.. .. that's pretty messed up
27 April 2015 13:32
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Naine kellel pole üldse rasva või ümarust.. eks ta üks lurr ole, või vintske, kuid kuiv ikkagi : )
27 April 2015 13:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
i know right27 April 2015 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mcpherson Robert.. am sorry, but how did You mean what You say, by eye and all that? am a bit slow at times and like to answer before the question
26 April 2015 06:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Against evil eye helps that: Peganum harmala – Syrian Rue
" In the Koran, it is stated that “every root, every leaf of harmel, is watched over by an angel who waits for a person to come in search of healing.”" (well.. not actually but that what people say)
http://www.luckymojo.com/aspand.html
http://entheology.com/plants/peganum-harmala-syrian-rue/
More professional maybe:
https://www.erowid.org/plants/syrian_rue/
http://www.drugs.com/npp/syrian-rue.html
And as You can see usage reports, people are not really offering it as party drug:
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Syrian_Rue.shtml
My self only used the powder we cooked.. strong it was and made me afraid to take second time.. but as long you afraid of it, you not jet clean.
Friend told.. Lithuania shaman.. that actually that is perfect bottom to hallucinogens, mushrooms etc, to get proper intense healing.
I did take few times more after that. IN one conversation was shared simple fact that how we can make all these "alien fly saucers" that people worry about.. to drop down from sky at once as drops of rain if needed, as they still fly in room and space using this that can be turned off for their magnetic chips or changed with ease.
Also same with everything of electricity basically, with some variations.
One KG 65 dollars:P
https://tranceplants.net/product-info.php?pid138.html
Hey Rob..
I know, u did not talk about that .. so much ... but hey, worth that you bring it up anyway . )
Something to do with getting spirits out of body with vomiting (cleansing) and receiving direct teachings from Angels n God
" In the Koran, it is stated that “every root, every leaf of harmel, is watched over by an angel who waits for a person to come in search of healing.”" (well.. not actually but that what people say)
http://www.luckymojo.com/aspand.html
http://entheology.com/plants/peganum-harmala-syrian-rue/
More professional maybe:
https://www.erowid.org/plants/syrian_rue/
http://www.drugs.com/npp/syrian-rue.html
And as You can see usage reports, people are not really offering it as party drug:
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Syrian_Rue.shtml
My self only used the powder we cooked.. strong it was and made me afraid to take second time.. but as long you afraid of it, you not jet clean.
Friend told.. Lithuania shaman.. that actually that is perfect bottom to hallucinogens, mushrooms etc, to get proper intense healing.
I did take few times more after that. IN one conversation was shared simple fact that how we can make all these "alien fly saucers" that people worry about.. to drop down from sky at once as drops of rain if needed, as they still fly in room and space using this that can be turned off for their magnetic chips or changed with ease.
Also same with everything of electricity basically, with some variations.
One KG 65 dollars:P
https://tranceplants.net/product-info.php?pid138.html
Hey Rob..
I know, u did not talk about that .. so much ... but hey, worth that you bring it up anyway . )
Something to do with getting spirits out of body with vomiting (cleansing) and receiving direct teachings from Angels n God
http://www.luckymojo.com/aspand.html
26 April 2015 06:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
How come, i mean, you do agree we should not masturbate by thinking anyone else then your wife(better not at all), have sex with a pig or eat it?
My wording .. for sure.. is not the clearest one in all corners
My wording .. for sure.. is not the clearest one in all corners
26 April 2015 06:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Now all like serious stuff like "This is a special edition of the Journal of Information Warfare (JIW), written in collaboration with the Information Assurance Directorate (IAD) of the NSA. In this publication, we bring you 10 articles from current and highly technical subject matter experts from NSA, all of which focus on cyber-security efforts that attempt to realize Confidence in Cyberspace. Journal of Information Warfare, Vol 13, Issue 2 https://www.nsa.gov/ia/_files/JIW-13-2--23-April-2014--Final-Version.pdf"
Okey.. we got that as well.. but innit that to simple..
https://www.nsa.gov/ia/_files/factsheets/I43V_Slick_Sheets/Slicksheet_BestPracticesForKeepingYourHomeNetworkSecure.pdf
Okey.. we got that as well.. but innit that to simple..
https://www.nsa.gov/ia/_files/factsheets/I43V_Slick_Sheets/Slicksheet_BestPracticesForKeepingYourHomeNetworkSecure.pdf
26 April 2015 06:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And our brother had good list of trusted tutorials.. what happened with that..
http://web.archive.org/web/20090314015124/http://www.nsa.gov/ia/guidance/security_configuration_guides/current_guides.shtml
http://web.archive.org/web/20090314015124/http://www.nsa.gov/ia/guidance/security_configuration_guides/current_guides.shtml
http://web.archive.org/web/20090314015124/http://www.nsa.gov/ia/guidance/security_configuration_guides/current_guides.shtml
26 April 2015 06:13
Margus Meigo commented on Tod Gemuese's post.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
We had a cow who killed a butcher just few days ago by direct attack after he saw what they plan to do with her friends, i think they are rising up or something,26 April 2015 05:59
Margus Meigo commented on Ben Rich's post.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
still tastes better then vista26 April 2015 05:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: CULT OF THE DEAD COW
ya kung-fu no good...!
Okey, perhaps is decent... but choose your side at least, the one what will win in the end for sure, anyone can make up a mind, what side that will be. (an hint: winning one, the one that won before beginning :p)
But my self, rather, keep worry about times like that ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VPGjmSBpsI as is not like we would only have Ghost in Akira Kids Cell only now.. the woods is still , here, now : )https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VPGjmSBpsI
26 April 2015 05:54
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Positiivseid uudiseid ka, kuigi
teatud meemaal elavaid vahetaks välja küll .. kuid noh, kahjuks sunniviisiliselt vist enam ei lubata, et "need me riigile kasutud, saadame need minema, andke midagi head vastu oma riigist, vahetuskaubaks.. et nad siis meie maa kutuuritarkusi saaksid teie riiki kunagi tuua... lubame et ei linzhi"
teatud meemaal elavaid vahetaks välja küll .. kuid noh, kahjuks sunniviisiliselt vist enam ei lubata, et "need me riigile kasutud, saadame need minema, andke midagi head vastu oma riigist, vahetuskaubaks.. et nad siis meie maa kutuuritarkusi saaksid teie riiki kunagi tuua... lubame et ei linzhi"
25 April 2015 13:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Actually, this self rape law is kind of good but is not a really proper way to solve it, AT ALL... we all know, who smart, we should not masturbate, perhaps not at all, .. but how can police solve that? And how can that be cured, as most of the time this is done in secret.. and WHY would mother call police to a son.. can they not talk it out why and how ?
25 April 2015 03:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You Have been right on whatever non related post You have given reply to me William Ligiu Ionescu
And to smart things, there is at times to hard to think, what to reply or why,
i just realized it now.
And to smart things, there is at times to hard to think, what to reply or why,
i just realized it now.
25 April 2015 03:12
Margus Meigo commented on Alisa Tuisk's post.
Kui raha pole siis ei tule ka autoga sõita, jumal hoiaks!
Autod alles leiutati paarsada aastat tagasi ju, targad inimesed saavad enamuse aja ilma autota ka hakkama kui elu ümber sätivad
Autod alles leiutati paarsada aastat tagasi ju, targad inimesed saavad enamuse aja ilma autota ka hakkama kui elu ümber sätivad
24 April 2015 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on Helina Viik's post.
Tegelikult see tõus EI mõjuta vaesemaid, just VASTUPIDI, sest suunatakse muude kasude ja tuludega vaestele puhtas rahas just tagasi ja kätte see raha mida enamus inimesed maha kärutavad, eriti suurfirmad on need kes kõige rohkem maksavad.
5 sendi võrra või rohkemgi aasta jooksul on bensujaam hindasi tõstnud, siis küll lärmi pole olnud
5 sendi võrra või rohkemgi aasta jooksul on bensujaam hindasi tõstnud, siis küll lärmi pole olnud
24 April 2015 00:40
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Kynk's post.
Kas Sulle tõsiselt tundub, et see kütuse 5 sendi mure võrreldes muude murede ja võimalustega mis meil on, on üks reaalsemaid ?
24 April 2015 00:38
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Karolin's post.
Riigikogulaste palka peaks tõstma, paar korda vähemalt, sest nii vähese palgaga pole ka ime, et nihverdatakse ja nii ladnalt asja võetakse.
Mõned saavad tava firmades või erasektoris tunduvalt rohkem palka, kuigi peaks ju saama need, kes midagi nii olulist teevad kui oma rahva elu ja olu toimetamine
Mõned saavad tava firmades või erasektoris tunduvalt rohkem palka, kuigi peaks ju saama need, kes midagi nii olulist teevad kui oma rahva elu ja olu toimetamine
24 April 2015 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's photo.
it is shame thought, on the time of most simple direct free video feed time (any laptop, and wifi connection, youtube broadcast option.. and at least some quality is up.. even with basic smartphone with camera can do that, and upload directly to yt account for free while recording).
I just wondering.. how many great talks and things has get a bit lost for these reasons.. allan watts times students took care of it and macenna times.. so make sure there is some fan club also who reminds u of simple way, just in case ... as there just might come this great talks from divine what people will find most real years later.
What a miss for these who was not present! :p
and impossible goal for old soviet friends to reach you there any other way then thanks to hippy internets feeds :p
(just for next time, to know there is cheap way to do it, even simple phone mp3 recorder just in case on background, and then forget about it..)
I just wondering.. how many great talks and things has get a bit lost for these reasons.. allan watts times students took care of it and macenna times.. so make sure there is some fan club also who reminds u of simple way, just in case ... as there just might come this great talks from divine what people will find most real years later.
What a miss for these who was not present! :p
and impossible goal for old soviet friends to reach you there any other way then thanks to hippy internets feeds :p
(just for next time, to know there is cheap way to do it, even simple phone mp3 recorder just in case on background, and then forget about it..)
23 April 2015 04:46
Margus Meigo commented on Laura McGinley's post.
Group: Urantia
Okey, now to think about, maybe he did not get my respect back.. gotta think about it23 April 2015 03:16
Margus Meigo commented on Justin Michael's post.
Group: Urantia
Why they keep shaving hes beard on all pictures (with doped up eyes often), what is wrong with the artists?? Do they not know he was from Nazarites..23 April 2015 03:15
Margus Meigo commented on Justin Michael's post.
Group: Urantia
Blue and Red..23 April 2015 03:14
Margus Meigo commented on Laura McGinley's post.
Group: Urantia
Answer: religious usage of large and small dosages of hallucinogenics, it is smart proof23 April 2015 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on Laura McGinley's post.
Group: Urantia
Well, he got my respect back
you know it matters, as i rule
(sometimes)
--
(well he loose it first times i saw him on tie and second time i found out he divorced from Karty ... this was also first time i found out he was VIP, or at least known in UK).
But anyway, true that,
... but also.. is that not the SAME thing he is doing kind of, if we say that true things are not relevant to us? As like.. if we would not be able to pray and learn about deeper parts of nature with magic mushrooms and invoke savor inside us? .. how we know if something is relevant or not.. when we not know... what is important to know and how..23 April 2015 02:55
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
But i got a bit sidetracked, as it was kind of starting to think, maybe You yourself was ironic about "no better than a climate change denier" part..
So tell me what about the dogs
No i have not read the article jet, i was just ticked of by Your language usage
So tell me what about the dogs
No i have not read the article jet, i was just ticked of by Your language usage
23 April 2015 02:50
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Mind your language Stephen, only homos are allowed to say "fuck you" to a women as they do not mean it, so unless you are one you no better of picking up irony then...
But besides that, please channel your energy to helpful way, point out your points of frustration and help us to get smarter about most important parts You think others was mistaking about.
Besides that, most smarter people look the "climate" people as crackpots who are not able to get the simple points that you can change the wind with your mind as well,
it is logical that climate is changing but is it because of us or is it done, to Do us, from the actual weather man ?
And hey.. once more, there is no proof of climate change by anyone else then God, i think https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beijing-Weather-Modification-Office/144553188891912 can confirm this
that there happened some strange shit with earth before, ask from places where is desert now...
But besides that, please channel your energy to helpful way, point out your points of frustration and help us to get smarter about most important parts You think others was mistaking about.
Besides that, most smarter people look the "climate" people as crackpots who are not able to get the simple points that you can change the wind with your mind as well,
it is logical that climate is changing but is it because of us or is it done, to Do us, from the actual weather man ?
And hey.. once more, there is no proof of climate change by anyone else then God, i think https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beijing-Weather-Modification-Office/144553188891912 can confirm this
that there happened some strange shit with earth before, ask from places where is desert now...
facebook.com
Beijing Weather Modification Office
23 April 2015 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's photo.
Man, take more comfortable settings.. like billows on the ground or couches. .. and cover walls with some nice clothing.. to make your own room.. as these ordinary walls and settings just to often can take away deeper focusing.. unless u are able to make these fields (for minds that needed)... am suspect you are, but still : )
How it went?
Got video up as well ?
How it went?
Got video up as well ?
23 April 2015 02:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Friends of Urantia Book Fellowship
I just add my reply from the other group here as well, as there was some comments about it: " https://www.facebook.com/groups/urantiagroup/951921298173694/?notif_t=group_comment "
Well, perhaps we should keep in mind MOST basic, that parallel worlds, in ALL where Jesus was at once, and that was connected by final act.. that unification of these worlds ("departments" ) is happening so that all beneficial would be used from all worlds that grow on their own most of the time, and SOME characters, structures was connected to more worlds then others, .... imagine it as huge hospital house with loads of floors and rooms ..and there is also some rooms where knowledge of walk through wall is basic.. and there is some rooms.. that know only how to use it in a way that other see them.. or they are able to do it only by the help of others from black market... and they think this is only way...
for sure there is still the ones who have not even heard about ROmans or homos, they have just not excised in their world that is at same time huge, in connection with many other worlds of our earthly beings (up to ants) and another life forms.
But we are only let to travel, even spirit travel only to these virtual and other real worlds that are relevant to our world future connections.
You have seen cartoon Akira right? And Ghost in a Cell kind of things.. well.. important to connect that to more real, printsess mononoke story.. and then put it all in to first two cartoon context with all we know.
Then we might start to see.. that this is not a big impossible thing at all.. that there was one Jesus here and another one there.. after all. who else then a God guided spirit would be able to manage himself in ALL parallel and another worlds at same time and leave enough needed glues to every corner, that these who need can on time put together right kind of picture
(all of them have English versions here, look past the action and focus on details of truth and secrets revealed, Akira has specially few had bits in but You can handle if You trained with western media, as these stories was marketed to west anyway, made more simple, so even white can get the deepness of it:
Akira: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiAUmy2X6UM
Ghost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWLzzUE67pc
Mononoke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VPGjmSBpsI
)
I would go even as far as mention Blavatsky Root_race as beneficial to keep half way in mind and what they call "synthetic telepathy".. all that got nothing on Old Estonians but hey, still.. our heart would love to rest as well.
But to these Japanese bit s of now, be on Spirited Away
Add Your Japan related mystic bits here as well, please.
Something comes from here we need sooner Then late.23 April 2015 01:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Urantia
Well, perhaps we should keep in mind MOST basic, that parallel worlds, in ALL where Jesus was at once, and that was connected by final act.. that unification of these worlds ("departments" ) is happening so that all beneficial would be used from all worlds that grow on their own most of the time, and SOME characters, structures was connected to more worlds then others, .... imagine it as huge hospital house with loads of floors and rooms ..and there is also some rooms where knowledge of walk through wall is basic.. and there is some rooms.. that know only how to use it in a way that other see them.. or they are able to do it only by the help of others from black market... and they think this is only way...
for sure there is still the ones who have not even heard about ROmans or homos, they have just not excised in their world that is at same time huge, in connection with many other worlds of our earthly beings (up to ants) and another life forms.
But we are only let to travel, even spirit travel only to these virtual and other real worlds that are relevant to our world future connections.
You have seen cartoon Akira right? And Ghost in a Cell kind of things.. well.. important to connect that to more real, printsess mononoke story.. and then put it all in to first two cartoon context with all we know.
Then we might start to see.. that this is not a big impossible thing at all.. that there was one Jesus here and another one there.. after all. who else then a God guided spirit would be able to manage himself in ALL parallel and another worlds at same time and leave enough needed glues to every corner, that these who need can on time put together right kind of picture
(all of them have English versions here, look past the action and focus on details of truth and secrets revealed, Akira has specially few had bits in but You can handle if You trained with western media, as these stories was marketed to west anyway, made more simple, so even white can get the deepness of it:
Akira: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiAUmy2X6UM
Ghost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWLzzUE67pc
Mononoke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VPGjmSBpsI
)
I would go even as far as mention Blavatsky Root_race as beneficial to keep half way in mind and what they call "synthetic telepathy".. all that got nothing on Old Estonians but hey, still.. our heart would love to rest as well.
But to these Japanese bit s of now, be on Spirited Away
Add Your Japan related mystic bits here as well, please.
Something comes from here we need sooner Then late.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiAUmy2X6UM
23 April 2015 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Äitah : )
Vot, ega ma ise lõputult purjetades loodan, et oma suunda kaotanud pole, ja ehk teepeal ikka kohtan ka keelemõistjat
Vot, ega ma ise lõputult purjetades loodan, et oma suunda kaotanud pole, ja ehk teepeal ikka kohtan ka keelemõistjat
23 April 2015 01:19
Margus Meigo commented on Henri Holtsmeier's post.
True that
22 April 2015 23:56
Margus Meigo commented on Jane Koemets's post.
Group: Loodusesõbrad
Oi kui kena22 April 2015 20:26
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Ära muretse, küll nad surevad, nagu me kõik, vhest ainult tundub, et liiga hilja.
(v.a. need kes igavese elu saavad naise südame kaudu)
(v.a. need kes igavese elu saavad naise südame kaudu)
22 April 2015 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Ahjaa, kiibistamist kui sellist ei ole plaanis tegelikult, selliselt,
vaimumaailmal pole seda päriselt vaja
see pigem trik panemaks uskuma neid kellel kiipi pole, et nad vabad on... ja siis saab neid omakorda igast huvitvateks asjadeks kasutada.. ja samas kiipe peale surudes panna inimesi uskuma, et selles ongi kogu teema...
tegelikult aga selles.. kas Sa oma naist armastada oskad..
vaimumaailmal pole seda päriselt vaja
see pigem trik panemaks uskuma neid kellel kiipi pole, et nad vabad on... ja siis saab neid omakorda igast huvitvateks asjadeks kasutada.. ja samas kiipe peale surudes panna inimesi uskuma, et selles ongi kogu teema...
tegelikult aga selles.. kas Sa oma naist armastada oskad..
22 April 2015 17:48
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
TÕsi ta on, kui juba midagi öelda, siis sedasi, et lisada midagi pole pärast vaja
22 April 2015 17:41
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's post.
but yes something is bothering me on that picture.. not sure what but something to do with un real collection of humans all tuned in one direction most of them alone .. to equal and where do they have time for shaving..
22 April 2015 16:20
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Kuid ma lähen võtan kirve kätte ja löön paar pakku katki nüüd meele puhastuseks, siis tuleval talvel emal hea soe olla : )
Jõudu praeguseks kaasmaalased, ja suured tänud selle pingutuse eest, seda lugemaks mis arvutisilmale raskesti arvutatav...
(ahjaa, mõelge ka miks seda tehakse: http://humansbank.blogspot.com/2015/01/corpus-planning.html .. ja võtke arvesse ka viimasi Aigar Sõge.. emaili.. (v.a. neid sõjaväe "soovitusi ropendamisest ja tüli tekitamisest" mis olid tegelt lõksud pigem...)
mille ta nüüdseks maailmakuulsa Jüri Lina filmiesilinastuse peale saatis Sünteetilise Telepaatia ja eri oppide Hinge Häkkimise tõlke osas, millega Eestlastel aeg ennast kurssi viia (kasvõi, et sellised mõtted olemas on mis Rootsist pärinenud..)
ja võtta positsioon, et me ammuilma, mituaega sellest ees olnud ja siis isesamal ajal kiirelt metsa .. ja neid seeni ostsida.. mis meid vanade õigete Eestlastega kontakti viiks ja kiirelt ülevaate annaks.. et mida siin viimase viie loomingu aeg teinud oleme ja mis tehtud sai ja kus Suur Tõll on..)
Jõudu praeguseks kaasmaalased, ja suured tänud selle pingutuse eest, seda lugemaks mis arvutisilmale raskesti arvutatav...
(ahjaa, mõelge ka miks seda tehakse: http://humansbank.blogspot.com/2015/01/corpus-planning.html .. ja võtke arvesse ka viimasi Aigar Sõge.. emaili.. (v.a. neid sõjaväe "soovitusi ropendamisest ja tüli tekitamisest" mis olid tegelt lõksud pigem...)
mille ta nüüdseks maailmakuulsa Jüri Lina filmiesilinastuse peale saatis Sünteetilise Telepaatia ja eri oppide Hinge Häkkimise tõlke osas, millega Eestlastel aeg ennast kurssi viia (kasvõi, et sellised mõtted olemas on mis Rootsist pärinenud..)
ja võtta positsioon, et me ammuilma, mituaega sellest ees olnud ja siis isesamal ajal kiirelt metsa .. ja neid seeni ostsida.. mis meid vanade õigete Eestlastega kontakti viiks ja kiirelt ülevaate annaks.. et mida siin viimase viie loomingu aeg teinud oleme ja mis tehtud sai ja kus Suur Tõll on..)
http://humansbank.blogspot.com/2015/01/corpus-planning.html
22 April 2015 15:10
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
See teine teema pole midagi, see SAMA viisnurkade unistus ja nende tehnoloogia, loodusele tõestamaks, et nad loodust ja inimesi ei vaja.
Kasutati ju hispaanlasi alguses, esimese puhastuse jaoks selles?
Vot.. sedasi ka siin.. ja mujal.. kasutatakse keda iganes, vikatina alguses.. sest erinevaid jõude saab juhtida kaugelt.. senikaua kui maa ja Looduse üle võimu saab.. INIMESI ju kasutatakse LOODUSE (Looja) vastases sõjas.. kas ikka hakkame arusaama... see meie Tammikute ja allikate pärast rohkem kui meie ainult..
Kuid ega need indiaanlased ka.. küll nad teavad, et ka nende aeg tuleb, kõige suuremad ja võimsamad (tarkuse osas) Vanimad võrgustikud mis alles jäänud siiani on Emajärgsed, matriarhaatsed The Iroquois võrgustik (Oneida, Onondaga, Cayuga, Mohawk, Seneca) siis Hopid...
ning ka juudid ju, tegelikult Vanad juudid Emajärgsed, ( https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html ) ... Vaadake osa "sexi õiguste" osas, allpool.. ot, kuna mehed eemaldusid TEGELIKUST võimust... siis meid siin sedasi tögatakse.. ja see Riik ikka siin, veel üks maailma parimatel kohtadel mis olla saab,
ma sutsu üle paarikümnel maal reisinud ja elanud nii aafrikas kui keset ookeani aastaid, ameeriak all, kui ka inglisemaal tänavatel allmaailmaga.. ja võin selle põhjal väita, et Meie riigi ja rahva olukord on nii heal positsioonil ja olukorras, .. et kui seda näha vaimusilmas siis kohe lihtne ka taevalikesse jõududesse uskuda,
sest meil sedasi riigi keele ja kultuuriga inimesed ja asjad seotud... et nagu teist alla millionilise numbriga maailmapildis NII SUURE hääleõigusega.. ja võimalustega kogu maailma poliitikat mõjutavat võimalusi mis meile kätte ulatatud.. see ikka puhas kingitus ja ka see, mis meil lubati 80ndatel teha, muusikaga
Kasutati ju hispaanlasi alguses, esimese puhastuse jaoks selles?
Vot.. sedasi ka siin.. ja mujal.. kasutatakse keda iganes, vikatina alguses.. sest erinevaid jõude saab juhtida kaugelt.. senikaua kui maa ja Looduse üle võimu saab.. INIMESI ju kasutatakse LOODUSE (Looja) vastases sõjas.. kas ikka hakkame arusaama... see meie Tammikute ja allikate pärast rohkem kui meie ainult..
Kuid ega need indiaanlased ka.. küll nad teavad, et ka nende aeg tuleb, kõige suuremad ja võimsamad (tarkuse osas) Vanimad võrgustikud mis alles jäänud siiani on Emajärgsed, matriarhaatsed The Iroquois võrgustik (Oneida, Onondaga, Cayuga, Mohawk, Seneca) siis Hopid...
ning ka juudid ju, tegelikult Vanad juudid Emajärgsed, ( https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html ) ... Vaadake osa "sexi õiguste" osas, allpool.. ot, kuna mehed eemaldusid TEGELIKUST võimust... siis meid siin sedasi tögatakse.. ja see Riik ikka siin, veel üks maailma parimatel kohtadel mis olla saab,
ma sutsu üle paarikümnel maal reisinud ja elanud nii aafrikas kui keset ookeani aastaid, ameeriak all, kui ka inglisemaal tänavatel allmaailmaga.. ja võin selle põhjal väita, et Meie riigi ja rahva olukord on nii heal positsioonil ja olukorras, .. et kui seda näha vaimusilmas siis kohe lihtne ka taevalikesse jõududesse uskuda,
sest meil sedasi riigi keele ja kultuuriga inimesed ja asjad seotud... et nagu teist alla millionilise numbriga maailmapildis NII SUURE hääleõigusega.. ja võimalustega kogu maailma poliitikat mõjutavat võimalusi mis meile kätte ulatatud.. see ikka puhas kingitus ja ka see, mis meil lubati 80ndatel teha, muusikaga
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
22 April 2015 15:09
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Kui hästi käitume, siis ikka jah, sutsu jäätakse alles, nagu need robotid rääkida juba teadsid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIWWLg4wLEY
et väike Eestlaste Aed...
Kõlab nagu Eedeni aed.. ja eks ta ole kah.. Maarjamaa.. nalja pärast ei nimetata seda ala sedasi.. kuid see selleks..
et väike Eestlaste Aed...
Kõlab nagu Eedeni aed.. ja eks ta ole kah.. Maarjamaa.. nalja pärast ei nimetata seda ala sedasi.. kuid see selleks..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIWWLg4wLEY
22 April 2015 15:01
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Aga vaata kui head hispaanlased olid, nad jätsid puuridesse, tsirkuse ja ajaloo ning turistide tarvis ikka väikse sutsu neid alles ju, nüüd kena pilte teha ja Facebookis jagada, et vaata kui sügavad ja targad inimesed...
22 April 2015 14:54
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Kui õigesti kutsuda, siis kindlustame kaitse, kui valesti kutsume, siis.. no siis umbes selline olukord nagu.. vedel peer...
22 April 2015 14:51
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
See veel meie õnn, et me pole, kuid ega siis see pole piisav põhjus veel meie maa mitte hävitamiseks, paljude arvates, tõestama peab ikka oma väärtusi, sest iga väike kelle alles jätad kasvab kiiresti suureks kui õige seeme on, seega peab hoolikalt valima.. keda Uute Maailma lasta node arvates..
tuleb müista keda kuidas ja miks kasutatakse
tuleb müista keda kuidas ja miks kasutatakse
22 April 2015 14:50
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Kõik mis teed on avalik, ja seaduse põhjal salvestatud igaveseks tedamata ajaks, kui tõestust mingi maa kultuuri toodangust.
Näitamaks mida mis maa ja kultuur tootnud on, milliseid mõtteid ja sügavusi harju keskmiselt (ja mis arvate, vaadates harju keskmiseid slooganeid ja kommentaare Välis Vaatlajate silmis, kes otsustavad millised maad ja kultuurid alles vaja jätta.. et kui suur % tundub nende arvates olema mitte just eriti suure maailma pildiga, emotsionaalse väär arenguga? Kas rohkem kui 5% siin maal? .. 5 on juba väga palju ju.. )
(ja ärge mu keelekasutuse pärast praegu veel muretsege, vaid selle pärast mida räägin)
Näitamaks mida mis maa ja kultuur tootnud on, milliseid mõtteid ja sügavusi harju keskmiselt (ja mis arvate, vaadates harju keskmiseid slooganeid ja kommentaare Välis Vaatlajate silmis, kes otsustavad millised maad ja kultuurid alles vaja jätta.. et kui suur % tundub nende arvates olema mitte just eriti suure maailma pildiga, emotsionaalse väär arenguga? Kas rohkem kui 5% siin maal? .. 5 on juba väga palju ju.. )
(ja ärge mu keelekasutuse pärast praegu veel muretsege, vaid selle pärast mida räägin)
22 April 2015 14:47
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Inglismaa ise üle tuhande aasta tumedate võimude vangis olnud.. kuid eks kõik oleneb sellest millist jõudu ise oskame kelle kasuks ja ennetavalt ära kasutada, tuuleveskitega võidelda pole mõtet aga neid kasutada vajaliku jahvatamiseks on mõtet küll..
Nu ja kui väga vaja.. siis peatame tuule ja veski kaotab ise mõtte kust ta tuli ja miks ta oli..
Ütlen veelkord, et on vaja koondada ja õppida ÕIGEID moslemied meite endi ümber, et ära tunda neid sidemeid mis puhta muust maailmast või muidu petetud.. neid asju teavad aga sealsed vanad papid ise kõige paremini, ja need kes neist päris usklikud, vaatavad IGA kõrkuse peale samamoodi nagu meie vaataksime, ainukene vahe on selles, et nad siis EI takista kõrkuse hävitamist nende jõudude poolt kelle osas pime oldi. Et saage siis ise ilma Jumalata hakkama nad mõtlevad.. ja ega keegi ei saa, kõrkuse pärast on ka meie oma enda riiki sisse tuldud ja meid sedasi kükke tegema pandud nagu seda soovitud.. ja armastuse tärkamise kaudu oleme üpris vabaks üpris kerge vaevaga enamuste jaoks, saanud sellest kõigest... kuid nüüd kui globaalne aeg on siis praegune noorte ja vanade hoolimatus ja kõrkus üheskoos.. aga paneb selle igavesse ajaloo raamatusse kõikide tarkade rahvaste silme alla,
seega valigem, ja tehkem neid asju mis kohe kindlasti on headust arvestav ja õige iga eri maa targa osas, arvesse võttes suuri jamasi mida inimesed ise lahti lasknud juba on ... et kõik mis räägid ja teed (ja vahest isegi mõtled)
Nu ja kui väga vaja.. siis peatame tuule ja veski kaotab ise mõtte kust ta tuli ja miks ta oli..
Ütlen veelkord, et on vaja koondada ja õppida ÕIGEID moslemied meite endi ümber, et ära tunda neid sidemeid mis puhta muust maailmast või muidu petetud.. neid asju teavad aga sealsed vanad papid ise kõige paremini, ja need kes neist päris usklikud, vaatavad IGA kõrkuse peale samamoodi nagu meie vaataksime, ainukene vahe on selles, et nad siis EI takista kõrkuse hävitamist nende jõudude poolt kelle osas pime oldi. Et saage siis ise ilma Jumalata hakkama nad mõtlevad.. ja ega keegi ei saa, kõrkuse pärast on ka meie oma enda riiki sisse tuldud ja meid sedasi kükke tegema pandud nagu seda soovitud.. ja armastuse tärkamise kaudu oleme üpris vabaks üpris kerge vaevaga enamuste jaoks, saanud sellest kõigest... kuid nüüd kui globaalne aeg on siis praegune noorte ja vanade hoolimatus ja kõrkus üheskoos.. aga paneb selle igavesse ajaloo raamatusse kõikide tarkade rahvaste silme alla,
seega valigem, ja tehkem neid asju mis kohe kindlasti on headust arvestav ja õige iga eri maa targa osas, arvesse võttes suuri jamasi mida inimesed ise lahti lasknud juba on ... et kõik mis räägid ja teed (ja vahest isegi mõtled)
22 April 2015 14:44
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Me vahest nii pimedad, et usume islami usul ja ISISel otsene seos olema.. kuid see oleks sama kui FSB palgatud narva maragratid trampima Tammsaare peal, ja seda ka diversiooniks ... sama seos JUmala usul ja seda mida näidatakse meedia saatel. Ärgem allugem meedia provokatsioonidele.
Ja kas see, et nad näitavad Eesti Passi või Oskavad rääkida eesti tava suhtlus keeles teeb neist Eestlase? Kas see kui keegi Koraaniga liputab ja teeb palve rituaale, teeb tast moslemi ?
Piiblis selle kohta ju kõik kirjas, vaata viljade järgi kes on kes
Ja kas see, et nad näitavad Eesti Passi või Oskavad rääkida eesti tava suhtlus keeles teeb neist Eestlase? Kas see kui keegi Koraaniga liputab ja teeb palve rituaale, teeb tast moslemi ?
Piiblis selle kohta ju kõik kirjas, vaata viljade järgi kes on kes
22 April 2015 14:43
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Inglismaa ise üle tuhande aasta tumedate võimude vangis olnud.. kuid eks kõik oleneb sellest millist jõudu ise oskame kelle kasuks ja ennetavalt ära kasutada, tuuleveskitega võidelda pole mõtet aga neid kasutada vajaliku jahvatamiseks on mõtet küll..
Nu ja kui väga vaja.. siis peatame tuule ja veski kaotab ise mõtte kust ta tuli ja miks ta oli..
Nu ja kui väga vaja.. siis peatame tuule ja veski kaotab ise mõtte kust ta tuli ja miks ta oli..
22 April 2015 14:33
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Moslemid on väike probleem Inglisemaal.. see pigem veel üks lisa jõud mis takistab päris kommunistidel oma võimu rahulikult nautimast, sest nad teavad, et kui aeg tuleb siis mostlmeid võtavad asja tõsiselt ja kasutavad oma isiklike pätte kõigepealt teiste pättide maha löömiseks ja siis löövad oma enda ellujäänud pättidel ise pead maha ja sellest mingit probleemi ka ei tule, sest õiglus vaja jalule seada...
Kuid noh.. õnneks meil piisavalt Kristlasi, kes teavad kuidas omakorda siis need paika panna kes oma ususõjad ära jooksnud on,sest selle sõna loeb, kellel kõige vanimad ja targemad sõnad varuks on... iga selle asja kohta kes mis ja kuidas milleks tehti, HEADE poolt.. (paha oskab iga üks välja mõelda ja laimu.. kuid leida põhjuks miks Jumalal seda ja Teist vaja oli.. see info on enamasti Heade käes.. ja see on see millega asjad sirgeks ka pannakse.. kasutatakse ka kommunistide enda kogutud andmeid ja analüüse selleks.. õnneks)
Kuid noh.. õnneks meil piisavalt Kristlasi, kes teavad kuidas omakorda siis need paika panna kes oma ususõjad ära jooksnud on,sest selle sõna loeb, kellel kõige vanimad ja targemad sõnad varuks on... iga selle asja kohta kes mis ja kuidas milleks tehti, HEADE poolt.. (paha oskab iga üks välja mõelda ja laimu.. kuid leida põhjuks miks Jumalal seda ja Teist vaja oli.. see info on enamasti Heade käes.. ja see on see millega asjad sirgeks ka pannakse.. kasutatakse ka kommunistide enda kogutud andmeid ja analüüse selleks.. õnneks)
22 April 2015 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Kaks sammu ise peame ka sutsu inimlikud olema ja oskama vaadata seda erinevat versiooni muulaste silme läbi. Eelkõige seda, mida siin meelega mis inimgruppidega tehakse, ja MEIE pole veel kannatama hakanud, need kes kannatama pandud, nede kaudu alles hakatakse meiteni jõudma..uuesti.
Slooganid, et keegi kuskil palmiall magab või, et meile suvalisi immigrante tuuakse on väga üle pakutud, halvad asjad mida öelda, õhtulehe tasemel, pigem nendest suur osa väga strateegiliselt valitud /dysgenics, cacogenics jaoks/. Halvimal juhul.
Ehk geenide, ka vaimsete geenide solkimise jaoks VÄGA omal alal tarkade teadlaste poolt.
Parimal juhul on tõesti tegu kogematta uute teadmiste ja kultuuri toomisega meie lähedale, et ennast harida selle osas saaksime mis igale poole suuremas joones planeeritud on. Keegi, kes inspireeriks meid jälle Eestlaseks olema. Tean mõnda nii aafrikast kui aasiast kes on nii vaimses kui muus mõttes ikka teravam pliiats kui enamus keda siin maal kõndimas olen näinud oma riigi ja kodumaa kallal vandudes..
Küll on Rõivad pahad ja küll Metsaloomad ei sobi..
On kahte sorti muulasi, ühed kes armastavad maad, selle maa rahvast ja tööd mis neile pakutakse, sest nende enda maa on ära lõhutud, neetud ja nad nõus teenima ja tänulik olema kellele iganes kes neid sellest vaevast päästab milles nad ise süüdi pole. (see on suht kirjeldamatu milline vaev osades neis kohtades on, millistes suurustes, mida meelega ka hoitakse sedasi, et tumedaid jõude sünnitada kes oleks juurteta).
Ja on neid kes sügavas irvitavad inimkonna headuse üle võikusega, ei hooli ja ei olegi võimelised tunnetama ega hoolima ega millegi poolt peale omasuguste ja seda ka ajutiselt.
Elasin ise koos mitmete eri gruppidega ju...
Kuigi sellised on veel ohtlikumad kui tiblad siis nad vähemalt on kaugelt ära tuntavad. Kuni sinnamaani kuni nad ülikonna selga saavad.. või kenad tossud olles Club Privees, su tütart jahtimas, kes juba koduste sarvikute poolt piisavalt ära rikutud, et selle maagia vastu ta täiesti relvitu saab olema, lihtne nagu võilille korjamine enamustele neile meestele tavalisi lääne vale enesehinnanguga Naisi...
Ja ega see ei loe, kui kandoomiga, sest vaim on juba teise sisse pääsenud.. lubatud..
Kuid samas nende jultumus teeselda naeratust millegi saamiseks või uskuma neid ennast panna, et nad teistest paremad ja õiglasemad, on üüratu. Kuid neid kõiki on enamuses lihtne ära tunda nende menüü järgi (liha, suits, alkohol).
Kui teeksime reegli, et meie maale ei tohi tulla "liha, suits, alkoholi" tarbivad inimesed ku ivõõras oled, sest see uus seadus võõraste osas, siis ilma liialduseta see üle 95% ohtudest kaotaks ära, ning pigistaksime sellest peale surutust endale siia väga väärtuslike tegelasi, kes meid aitaks muu maade kultuuride saladuste osas ning kes samas ise ainult nende omasugustega soovisk suguühtes olla.
Sest nende sees ju ka muud Vaimud kes vägagi kõrge enesehinnanguga ja teravalt kõikide ümbritsevate vigasi tähele oskab panna. Ainult vanad Eestlased olid rahvana visat nii terava silmaga, sest tegime silmad teravaks teravpaljakuga, et haistsime erinevaid vaime kaugelt ja teadsime kuidas käituda. Pea maha raidumine pole enam lahendus tänapäeval, sest ega vaimud ainult peas ei ela (kuigi, tehniliselt küll jah, see tööriist mis nad ligi on lasknud..).
Kuigi päriselt päris venelast vist tegelikult pole olemas, siis ise teame, et päris venelane on väga hea inimene, usaldame ise ka rohkem kui oma kaasmaalasi. Meil protsendi järgi vist päris venelasi siin rohkem kui Moskvas..
Kuid kogu see trikk on palju suurem ja alati olnud, lihtsalt enamus maaAtsid pole võimelised reaalselt uskuma pidevalt, et on SUURED ORGANISEERITUD SADU AASTAID (pigem tuhandeid..) IGAPÄEVASELT, 24/7 töötavad, südametunnistuseta jõud, kes seotud ka kõige muuga lisaks inimmaailmale, kes siin erinevate aegade aeg murrab rahvaid ja kultuure nagu rohukõrsi. Ning saavad selles osas iga kord targemaks, sest mooduseid kuidas teha annabe ise neile lahkesti juurde, greeka ülikooli süsteemidega mis nad meile ehitasid. Just sinna see koer maetud ongi.. või vähemalt samale kalmistule.
Meie õnn, et Jumal keeled sassi ajas meil muidu oleksime juba ammu kõik ära hävitatud, sest oleksime ühtselt suunatud suurele enesetapule. Ehk looduse looja vastasele sõjale. Naise vastasele sõjale kuhu kaasatud naised..
Seda nagunii, et meil juba on 300 000 muulast ja see on peaaegu üks suuremaid % maakera maadest, kuid kogu see käputäie imigrantide siia surumine, et siis näidata kui imigrantide vaba me oleme ongi koostöös suurte viisnurkadega, selleks, et meid unustama panna mis tegelikult juhtus ja toimub. Suurem osa inimesi kinnises viha tuhinas unustab ära peamise lihtsa fakti: Meil juba on, mitusada tuhat muulast, ... ärge alluge provokatsioonidele sest siis kaotate pea .. ka otseselt kui päevad edasi lähevad ja kõiki seadusi suudetakse kraadi võrra sedasi keerata, et BRICKs "Koalitsioon" taoliste moodustiste kaudu kehtestada võim igas ilmakaares, meie ümber selliselt, et meilt veel nõutakse tänu, meie Veel alles lubatakse olla (sest nende "uuringud" näitavad, et see "sallimatu" rahvas intenreti kommentaarida ja baari vestluste põhjal, mida nad koguvad SELLEKS...ja maakera ühtsuse nimel BRICKs tegelaste arvates... tegelikult oleks mõistlikum..)
Kuid see kõigest üks plaan hauatagustel viisnurkadel (teatud sorti viikingid, vanad greeklased ja rooma jms), nad ka õppinud, et ainult ühte plaani ei hoia varuks, vaid ikka mitu mitu. Nad ennast kasvõi sunniviisiliselt ristida lasevad selle nimel, et ellu jääda elu võtmiseks ära neilt kes tegelikud selle maa asukad. Sest nad jõlestavad seda mis on hea ja kasutavat igat headust mida võimalik, noea sinu ribide lähedale toomiseks, või pigem.. sind ärgitades niipalju, et Sa ise teiba otsa jookseksid. Sest nemad kõigest vaimud siin kehades Sinu vaim ja keha aga on seotud headusega.
Slooganid, et keegi kuskil palmiall magab või, et meile suvalisi immigrante tuuakse on väga üle pakutud, halvad asjad mida öelda, õhtulehe tasemel, pigem nendest suur osa väga strateegiliselt valitud /dysgenics, cacogenics jaoks/. Halvimal juhul.
Ehk geenide, ka vaimsete geenide solkimise jaoks VÄGA omal alal tarkade teadlaste poolt.
Parimal juhul on tõesti tegu kogematta uute teadmiste ja kultuuri toomisega meie lähedale, et ennast harida selle osas saaksime mis igale poole suuremas joones planeeritud on. Keegi, kes inspireeriks meid jälle Eestlaseks olema. Tean mõnda nii aafrikast kui aasiast kes on nii vaimses kui muus mõttes ikka teravam pliiats kui enamus keda siin maal kõndimas olen näinud oma riigi ja kodumaa kallal vandudes..
Küll on Rõivad pahad ja küll Metsaloomad ei sobi..
On kahte sorti muulasi, ühed kes armastavad maad, selle maa rahvast ja tööd mis neile pakutakse, sest nende enda maa on ära lõhutud, neetud ja nad nõus teenima ja tänulik olema kellele iganes kes neid sellest vaevast päästab milles nad ise süüdi pole. (see on suht kirjeldamatu milline vaev osades neis kohtades on, millistes suurustes, mida meelega ka hoitakse sedasi, et tumedaid jõude sünnitada kes oleks juurteta).
Ja on neid kes sügavas irvitavad inimkonna headuse üle võikusega, ei hooli ja ei olegi võimelised tunnetama ega hoolima ega millegi poolt peale omasuguste ja seda ka ajutiselt.
Elasin ise koos mitmete eri gruppidega ju...
Kuigi sellised on veel ohtlikumad kui tiblad siis nad vähemalt on kaugelt ära tuntavad. Kuni sinnamaani kuni nad ülikonna selga saavad.. või kenad tossud olles Club Privees, su tütart jahtimas, kes juba koduste sarvikute poolt piisavalt ära rikutud, et selle maagia vastu ta täiesti relvitu saab olema, lihtne nagu võilille korjamine enamustele neile meestele tavalisi lääne vale enesehinnanguga Naisi...
Ja ega see ei loe, kui kandoomiga, sest vaim on juba teise sisse pääsenud.. lubatud..
Kuid samas nende jultumus teeselda naeratust millegi saamiseks või uskuma neid ennast panna, et nad teistest paremad ja õiglasemad, on üüratu. Kuid neid kõiki on enamuses lihtne ära tunda nende menüü järgi (liha, suits, alkohol).
Kui teeksime reegli, et meie maale ei tohi tulla "liha, suits, alkoholi" tarbivad inimesed ku ivõõras oled, sest see uus seadus võõraste osas, siis ilma liialduseta see üle 95% ohtudest kaotaks ära, ning pigistaksime sellest peale surutust endale siia väga väärtuslike tegelasi, kes meid aitaks muu maade kultuuride saladuste osas ning kes samas ise ainult nende omasugustega soovisk suguühtes olla.
Sest nende sees ju ka muud Vaimud kes vägagi kõrge enesehinnanguga ja teravalt kõikide ümbritsevate vigasi tähele oskab panna. Ainult vanad Eestlased olid rahvana visat nii terava silmaga, sest tegime silmad teravaks teravpaljakuga, et haistsime erinevaid vaime kaugelt ja teadsime kuidas käituda. Pea maha raidumine pole enam lahendus tänapäeval, sest ega vaimud ainult peas ei ela (kuigi, tehniliselt küll jah, see tööriist mis nad ligi on lasknud..).
Kuigi päriselt päris venelast vist tegelikult pole olemas, siis ise teame, et päris venelane on väga hea inimene, usaldame ise ka rohkem kui oma kaasmaalasi. Meil protsendi järgi vist päris venelasi siin rohkem kui Moskvas..
Kuid kogu see trikk on palju suurem ja alati olnud, lihtsalt enamus maaAtsid pole võimelised reaalselt uskuma pidevalt, et on SUURED ORGANISEERITUD SADU AASTAID (pigem tuhandeid..) IGAPÄEVASELT, 24/7 töötavad, südametunnistuseta jõud, kes seotud ka kõige muuga lisaks inimmaailmale, kes siin erinevate aegade aeg murrab rahvaid ja kultuure nagu rohukõrsi. Ning saavad selles osas iga kord targemaks, sest mooduseid kuidas teha annabe ise neile lahkesti juurde, greeka ülikooli süsteemidega mis nad meile ehitasid. Just sinna see koer maetud ongi.. või vähemalt samale kalmistule.
Meie õnn, et Jumal keeled sassi ajas meil muidu oleksime juba ammu kõik ära hävitatud, sest oleksime ühtselt suunatud suurele enesetapule. Ehk looduse looja vastasele sõjale. Naise vastasele sõjale kuhu kaasatud naised..
Seda nagunii, et meil juba on 300 000 muulast ja see on peaaegu üks suuremaid % maakera maadest, kuid kogu see käputäie imigrantide siia surumine, et siis näidata kui imigrantide vaba me oleme ongi koostöös suurte viisnurkadega, selleks, et meid unustama panna mis tegelikult juhtus ja toimub. Suurem osa inimesi kinnises viha tuhinas unustab ära peamise lihtsa fakti: Meil juba on, mitusada tuhat muulast, ... ärge alluge provokatsioonidele sest siis kaotate pea .. ka otseselt kui päevad edasi lähevad ja kõiki seadusi suudetakse kraadi võrra sedasi keerata, et BRICKs "Koalitsioon" taoliste moodustiste kaudu kehtestada võim igas ilmakaares, meie ümber selliselt, et meilt veel nõutakse tänu, meie Veel alles lubatakse olla (sest nende "uuringud" näitavad, et see "sallimatu" rahvas intenreti kommentaarida ja baari vestluste põhjal, mida nad koguvad SELLEKS...ja maakera ühtsuse nimel BRICKs tegelaste arvates... tegelikult oleks mõistlikum..)
Kuid see kõigest üks plaan hauatagustel viisnurkadel (teatud sorti viikingid, vanad greeklased ja rooma jms), nad ka õppinud, et ainult ühte plaani ei hoia varuks, vaid ikka mitu mitu. Nad ennast kasvõi sunniviisiliselt ristida lasevad selle nimel, et ellu jääda elu võtmiseks ära neilt kes tegelikud selle maa asukad. Sest nad jõlestavad seda mis on hea ja kasutavat igat headust mida võimalik, noea sinu ribide lähedale toomiseks, või pigem.. sind ärgitades niipalju, et Sa ise teiba otsa jookseksid. Sest nemad kõigest vaimud siin kehades Sinu vaim ja keha aga on seotud headusega.
22 April 2015 14:17
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's post.
joy is still, between the nature, and picking wild strawberries when needed and traveling to any chosen world, when needed. innit.
22 April 2015 13:58
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's post.
Yes but where are they floating like that?
22 April 2015 13:58
Margus Meigo commented on Hillar Kohv's post.
Group: Innele Inimelude Partei .
Tuju Tulju Koormann aga millised nimed need on, isikuliselt, need 30% keda Sa isiklikult sooviksid alles jätta, ja kas on ka lühi põhjendusi miks?22 April 2015 13:56
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
but our country is kind of patriotic and cheered that action as rightful and good, and honest .So people would not think she was in it for money and after all, anyone breaking up with president does not really need any benefits (normal benefit law is i think to the end of life for wife even after divorce as long they divorce after term )
http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/the-president-of-twitter
http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/the-president-of-twitter
http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/the-president-of-twitter
21 April 2015 07:27
Margus Meigo commented on Don Saxton's post.
They need LSD
21 April 2015 07:20
Margus Meigo commented on Don Saxton's post.
It is not about feminists but proper homos there and robots, i have been getting banned from these place as well, they proper nutcases about their "atheism" they believe they think instead of believing.
21 April 2015 07:20
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Or president just divorced of his wife just weeks before end of term and she was even taken away all the benefit, house and everything
21 April 2015 07:18
Margus Meigo commented on Davido Beano's link.
because they (made) fucked up in head.
Case closed
Case closed
21 April 2015 07:16
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
What next, wearing thong or bra day?
But as they say.. you not come to army to think.
But as they say.. you not come to army to think.
21 April 2015 07:15
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
And most of all, All women must as much as possible, as often as possible, seriously and all other ways start to tell other women how to live their life, specially private life and habits,
as long women do not do it then "society" does, and that means women will live, do and think as man almost want.. not as women want at all, if we want women to live as women want then women must start to tell women, how to live, in most important matters, these that maters.
Everyone knows some bits..
like standing on front of club with a cigaret or sleeping with someone when little drunk.. how cheap, lame and degrading it is, and bad.
And how man thinks about it... no need to even mention that.. for sure he knows, he does not need to rise bar to much ,.. or at least he knows.. on that level he can get.. and if one gets to personal will get just another one (and seriously one should keep away from thinking like that as plague )
as long women do not do it then "society" does, and that means women will live, do and think as man almost want.. not as women want at all, if we want women to live as women want then women must start to tell women, how to live, in most important matters, these that maters.
Everyone knows some bits..
like standing on front of club with a cigaret or sleeping with someone when little drunk.. how cheap, lame and degrading it is, and bad.
And how man thinks about it... no need to even mention that.. for sure he knows, he does not need to rise bar to much ,.. or at least he knows.. on that level he can get.. and if one gets to personal will get just another one (and seriously one should keep away from thinking like that as plague )
21 April 2015 07:14
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Whit smile is only way to do it.
Women's probably should stop wearing high heels as it is fashion from 16 century gay man for mock a women and prison mentally.. and it works up to now. As with mach other clutter that makes life harder and is not needed, or some activities women's was trained to do for man that man does not need at all, like majority of ironing, and not letting man to be man by doing away all basic things that man have to do for him self as well (like washing, house keeping etc).
I meet 50+ years old people who do not know how to make food or wash clothing, how is that even possible when you not deeply retarded.
But yea, about THESE shoes..
There is NO benefit of these shoes what nature or man and women really needs, it is just ONLY for prison female mind and make them look ... not so smart on old wise women eyes who still alive some,
actually most of the bra story is the same.
It has always been with Greek-ROman power about thinking out things, activities, responsibilities and tools that would keep women occupied, tired and basically in their view retarded enough so they would not be taken seriously, or that she will keep her self and her friends on "level" enough, and only women in Greek way, that means, not demanding man to be nice.
But this is only way, man evolve to be better, if females start to demand on simple things, higher standards like: health food, smoking, drinking, no porn... all these simple things should be 100% list or NO touching even, as its "spiritually unclean" (and you know, it really is actually.. )
Women's probably should stop wearing high heels as it is fashion from 16 century gay man for mock a women and prison mentally.. and it works up to now. As with mach other clutter that makes life harder and is not needed, or some activities women's was trained to do for man that man does not need at all, like majority of ironing, and not letting man to be man by doing away all basic things that man have to do for him self as well (like washing, house keeping etc).
I meet 50+ years old people who do not know how to make food or wash clothing, how is that even possible when you not deeply retarded.
But yea, about THESE shoes..
There is NO benefit of these shoes what nature or man and women really needs, it is just ONLY for prison female mind and make them look ... not so smart on old wise women eyes who still alive some,
actually most of the bra story is the same.
It has always been with Greek-ROman power about thinking out things, activities, responsibilities and tools that would keep women occupied, tired and basically in their view retarded enough so they would not be taken seriously, or that she will keep her self and her friends on "level" enough, and only women in Greek way, that means, not demanding man to be nice.
But this is only way, man evolve to be better, if females start to demand on simple things, higher standards like: health food, smoking, drinking, no porn... all these simple things should be 100% list or NO touching even, as its "spiritually unclean" (and you know, it really is actually.. )
21 April 2015 07:07
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
I can imagine this to be right on spot an appropriate
21 April 2015 06:53
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
Why to even work so hard when ...
https://www.facebook.com/St.JudePrayforUs/photos/a.432957540059442.94550.115810755107457/495234937165035/?type=1&theater
basically
https://www.facebook.com/St.JudePrayforUs/photos/a.432957540059442.94550.115810755107457/495234937165035/?type=1&theater
basically
21 April 2015 06:53
Margus Meigo commented on Siim Pinka's post.
Group: Kalamehed ja Kalanaised
Kumb?21 April 2015 06:50
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
i just saw one bit from a curtains and wanted to cherish "Heeey you have soviet curtains as well"
21 April 2015 02:23
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Some food for CybBabes like that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWLzzUE67pc hopping by ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWLzzUE67pc
21 April 2015 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on Hillar Kohv's post.
See pole ilus soov Kohv.. metsaloomadele ikka head tuleb soovida, et karv läigiks ja et nad paremaks saaksid.. : )
21 April 2015 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on Hillar Kohv's post.
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Võlg pidigi võõra oma olema...21 April 2015 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on Anneli Vahtra's photo.
Mis tehnika See on ?
21 April 2015 01:50
Margus Meigo commented on Anneli Vahtra's photo.
Huvitavalt kentsakas
21 April 2015 01:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Veel tublisi inimesi: http://www.loodusajakiri.ee/eesti_mets/uudised58.html
http://www.loodusajakiri.ee/eesti_mets/uudised58.html
20 April 2015 22:43
Margus Meigo commented on Miina Hint's post.
Group: Eesti Kodanike Erakond
Aprill!
Venemaa naeris, Eesti nõudmiste peale ja lisas omapoolt heatahtlikult "Küll need Eestlased on ikka nalja mehed.. nemad nõuavad.."20 April 2015 22:05
Margus Meigo commented on Sylvia Habib's post.
Group: Anonymous VS Freemasonry
Dude.. i just smoked this bong.. and realized.. there is no weed.. ...20 April 2015 21:56
Margus Meigo commented on Adam Millward's post.
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Needs more creativity20 April 2015 21:55
Margus Meigo replied to Muhammed Ahmad's comment.
Ahaha muhhamed, sa eriti kõva opiumi ja hassi peal vist, et oma alibabaa vaibaga siia välja lendasid
20 April 2015 21:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Mõnes mõttes see juba 5 aastat olnud kuid ma ajamasinasse kinni jäänud vist:
2010: http://lifehacker.com/5491852/enable-variable-speed-playback-in-youtube (natuke teistsugune valik aga ikkagi)
2011: http://www.apologetics315.com/2011/09/how-to-watch-youtube-videos-faster-2x.html Sarnane kuid mite päris sama
aga kuna 2013 nad veel selliste asajdega pendeldama pidid:
http://lovinitinaz.blogspot.com/2013/02/how-to-change-playback-speed-of-youtube.html
ja 2014 ikka veel selle üle sõimati.. ju siis siin mingi jamamine käib eri versiooni youtuberite ja maailmadega :p
Muidugi äärmiselt naeruväärne on mõelda, et firma kes teeb koostööd nsaga, ehitab robot autosi, saadab sateliite kosmosesse ja peaks haldama ühtesi maailma parimaid päid ja raha voodusi IT alal.. et neil võtab 5 aastat aega, et videode all Kiiruse nupp "ära testitud" saaks, ..
et mida sellel testida nii palju on, pangu valik "kiirus" ja linnuke juurde "normalise audio" kus siis annab valiku ära siluda kui vaja korduvad ragisevad biidid ja asi tehtud, seniks kuni uus arendus sellel alal tuleb.
5 aastat ja veel testivad.. jeerum
2010: http://lifehacker.com/5491852/enable-variable-speed-playback-in-youtube (natuke teistsugune valik aga ikkagi)
2011: http://www.apologetics315.com/2011/09/how-to-watch-youtube-videos-faster-2x.html Sarnane kuid mite päris sama
aga kuna 2013 nad veel selliste asajdega pendeldama pidid:
http://lovinitinaz.blogspot.com/2013/02/how-to-change-playback-speed-of-youtube.html
ja 2014 ikka veel selle üle sõimati.. ju siis siin mingi jamamine käib eri versiooni youtuberite ja maailmadega :p
Muidugi äärmiselt naeruväärne on mõelda, et firma kes teeb koostööd nsaga, ehitab robot autosi, saadab sateliite kosmosesse ja peaks haldama ühtesi maailma parimaid päid ja raha voodusi IT alal.. et neil võtab 5 aastat aega, et videode all Kiiruse nupp "ära testitud" saaks, ..
et mida sellel testida nii palju on, pangu valik "kiirus" ja linnuke juurde "normalise audio" kus siis annab valiku ära siluda kui vaja korduvad ragisevad biidid ja asi tehtud, seniks kuni uus arendus sellel alal tuleb.
5 aastat ja veel testivad.. jeerum
http://lifehacker.com/5491852/enable-variable-speed-playback-in-youtube
20 April 2015 14:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Sest ma alati seda kvaliteeti valin videol 144 sest muu ei vea välja, .. mäletan küll nagu kunagi ammu ka näinud oleks kuid mul nüüd alles uuesti näitas. veider veidre
20 April 2015 13:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Mis mõttes, mul mingi aegunud Yuutuube olnud, mul näitas esimest korda
20 April 2015 13:58
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
What would they do if this guy was wearing Scottish kilt..
But yea, the mama bear moan recommendation was good
But yea, the mama bear moan recommendation was good
20 April 2015 13:57
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
Is it allowed to knee punch a person who is grabbing you like that??
20 April 2015 13:52
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Hastey's post.
Group: Anonymous VS Freemasonry
Thanks for understanding, .:.
Holy Mountain is not worth to climb, but to flow with it
(and to grow.. thing what can do normal seeds out of same ground..and then lets see if humans have ever developed a lot of advanced anything, to talk loud.)
And two main animals that have accepted to be next to humans as basic model is one of the two biggest, best helpers,teachers, humans can depend on, so we would know
ps. better to think good about queen and kings, parents, monogamy, as
we can help everyone who can help us to help everyone becoming good at being better in helping others in what they need most
as what others need, we need also (this is why help others, what They might need for sure or even just in case in your heart)
But always try to find things that others need for sure, and focus on them, as then even if you get spit in a face for return, you can smile with angels as you know, you was good, as long you do not feel TO good for to long about it..as doing good is natural as breathing, that we also need to learn better, what you collect here, skills of making and living basic first, is what you will got, for sure, as bonus.. or at least help others to get as much of that what you thing world be on humans can smile about. They also smile when you make other people life better, so at least do that if not jet sure how to help a cat, dog or nature.
"Midagi ei teki, kõik on juba olemas,
kui paned oma südame letti siis vaata, et sellel poleks plekki" Says one good line of song20 April 2015 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Hastey's post.
Group: Anonymous VS Freemasonry
Nature has all the tools, plants and scriptures we need, to become proper species as we should be, always have been, and now more then ever.
Who can humans blame who still eat corpses (or even alive meat, when not critically needed, as collective? The ones who still smoke things with no good use for them or accept alcohol? The ones who top of all make horrible crime and sex with no love so demons can access to her body, for ever after, ..... the ones who make these kind of HUGE crimes against Humanity directly, because that is against Nature from whole creation point of view should EVER NEVER COMPLAIN, or even more bad... activate others to rave and be angry so they cal loose their head (and more then that)
and p.s. Eric, Your comment mentioned technological capabilities are usable, long time ago, that is one of the original way to save people kinds,
if you think about that and how just based on what is imagined in head or how felt, beings can spotted and tuned in on radar,,, do you think again, how and against what you send who and why? Unintentionally.20 April 2015 01:41
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Hastey's post.
Group: Anonymous VS Freemasonry
the real, what my kind call Illuminati is to humans as wood is to woodpeckers..20 April 2015 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Tehniline märge, 2 x vlc taasesitlus aeglasemalt, on yt 0.5.
0,25 tava aeglustus,
soovitav paar korda kuulata aeglasemalt kuni teadvus jõuab ümber harjuda ja katkise bassi müra välja filtreerida, ning siis tunned, kui liiga kiire enamus tava versioonid on.
Kuid üldiselt hästi toimub lauludel millel sonad on südames, (või informaatilised) nagu Katy Perry muusika, for good example
0,25 tava aeglustus,
soovitav paar korda kuulata aeglasemalt kuni teadvus jõuab ümber harjuda ja katkise bassi müra välja filtreerida, ning siis tunned, kui liiga kiire enamus tava versioonid on.
Kuid üldiselt hästi toimub lauludel millel sonad on südames, (või informaatilised) nagu Katy Perry muusika, for good example
19 April 2015 22:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
From
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMbvcp480Y4
How nice is that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMbvcp480Y4
How nice is that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMbvcp480Y4
19 April 2015 22:09
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Masing's post.
Group: Hallo Kosmos. Arutelud
Sübralik pere vähemalt19 April 2015 15:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I cant see jet the porn to be gone jet @ Mai Luus :p
18 April 2015 21:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Näe mooduseid mitmeid aga bakterist saime üle
18 April 2015 21:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vähemalt ei ole Laike
18 April 2015 21:25
Margus Meigo replied to Tor Eriksson's comment.
Sweds have protection from "another side" ... for some time more.. (but how long do we allow more?) ... as they them selves, are one of the main forces here, to run slave soul dealing camp.. (it was not apropriate to say.. but when there is still sweds to make free.. we need to become real about whos readers worship who, and what have they done in nice setting in the past.. reeeealy nice setting).
In the end.. Sweds needs everyones protection when all comes out.. and well, if we protect well the information about history they can provide.. will resolve loads of trouble
In the end.. Sweds needs everyones protection when all comes out.. and well, if we protect well the information about history they can provide.. will resolve loads of trouble
18 April 2015 03:44
Margus Meigo replied to Isaak Zmeivuks's comment.
Mitte ainult ajakirjanike, mis püha loomad nad on.. nad ju lausa kutsuvad kaela..
Kuid ka tava inimesi.. sadades tuhandetes iga aasta mõrvatakse ja veelgi suurtemates kogustes lastakse meelega surra.. või suunatakse nii, et nii oleks
Kuid ka tava inimesi.. sadades tuhandetes iga aasta mõrvatakse ja veelgi suurtemates kogustes lastakse meelega surra.. või suunatakse nii, et nii oleks
18 April 2015 03:43
Margus Meigo replied to Tor Eriksson's comment.
Sweden has deep cooperation with Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia, so i guess they do not need really, any protection as they sale weapons and connections to all sides.
Also, lets keep in mind, who was one of the main force who made Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia ... the RUS... 1000 years ago.. and whos two head eagle they still have as a symbol?
So You can kind of see.. the symbols coming togheder.
Nomands and ROmans...
What a couple and a freal child!
http://web-history.blogspot.com/2015/03/twoheadtiesgreekromanrussiangermansumers.html
Also, lets keep in mind, who was one of the main force who made Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia ... the RUS... 1000 years ago.. and whos two head eagle they still have as a symbol?
So You can kind of see.. the symbols coming togheder.
Nomands and ROmans...
What a couple and a freal child!
http://web-history.blogspot.com/2015/03/twoheadtiesgreekromanrussiangermansumers.html
18 April 2015 03:41
Margus Meigo commented on Harri Koppel's link.
Hästi vajalik pilt, sedasi teha. On lambad
15 April 2015 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Direct site:
http://paranormalperceptioncrew.yolasite.com/
https://www.facebook.com/paranormalperceptioncrew
Our Services:
We investigate documented reports of paranormal activity throughout the country. We investigate everything from private residences to cemeteries, businesses, historic landmarks and everything in between. We use scientific methods and equipment to document paranormal phenomenon and to rule out natural causes. We try to find logical explanations before claiming anything to be paranormal. We investigate accounts of paranormal activity upon request. If you are experiencing paranormal phenomena or would like us to check out a haunted location, please contact us through our email at paranormalperceptioncrew@gmail.com and paranormalperceptioncrew@yahoo.com
Private Investigation:
Are you experiencing paranormal phenomena in your home or place of business? Do you want answers? We can help! We can set up a private investigation that fits your specific needs. Here is how it works:
Step 1 - Email us at paranormalperceptioncrew@gmail.com with a short description of the paranormal phenomena you have been experiencing.
Step 2 - We will send you a "Request for Investigation" form. Fill out the form and return it to us. We will evaluate your application your case manager will follow up with an over the phone interview.
Step 3 - Your case manager appointed to your case will set up a "walk through" of the location. After the "walk through" is completed our team will decide how many investigators and how much equipment is needed for your investigation. Usually there is a minimum of four investigators per investigation.
Step 4 - Your case manager will contact you to schedule your private investigation.
Step 5 - After your investigation is completed we will analyze all audio and video footage. Once everything has been reviewed your case manager will set up a meeting with you to go over their findings.
Privacy:
We strongly believe that every client is entitled to their own privacy dealing with their case. If a client wishes to remain anonymous or keep information about their case and or location private from the public, we will respect their wishes and construct a privacy agreement that fits their needs.
DISCLAIMER:
We like to make sure that every client knows that we can not guarantee to rid your location of any spirits, entities, demons, etc. We are there to document paranormal phenomena and try to help you have a better understanding of what is taking place in your home or place of business. If you're in need of a blessing or exorcism we will do our best to put you in contact with a professional that can perform these tasks for you.
http://paranormalperceptioncrew.yolasite.com/
https://www.facebook.com/paranormalperceptioncrew
Our Services:
We investigate documented reports of paranormal activity throughout the country. We investigate everything from private residences to cemeteries, businesses, historic landmarks and everything in between. We use scientific methods and equipment to document paranormal phenomenon and to rule out natural causes. We try to find logical explanations before claiming anything to be paranormal. We investigate accounts of paranormal activity upon request. If you are experiencing paranormal phenomena or would like us to check out a haunted location, please contact us through our email at paranormalperceptioncrew@gmail.com and paranormalperceptioncrew@yahoo.com
Private Investigation:
Are you experiencing paranormal phenomena in your home or place of business? Do you want answers? We can help! We can set up a private investigation that fits your specific needs. Here is how it works:
Step 1 - Email us at paranormalperceptioncrew@gmail.com with a short description of the paranormal phenomena you have been experiencing.
Step 2 - We will send you a "Request for Investigation" form. Fill out the form and return it to us. We will evaluate your application your case manager will follow up with an over the phone interview.
Step 3 - Your case manager appointed to your case will set up a "walk through" of the location. After the "walk through" is completed our team will decide how many investigators and how much equipment is needed for your investigation. Usually there is a minimum of four investigators per investigation.
Step 4 - Your case manager will contact you to schedule your private investigation.
Step 5 - After your investigation is completed we will analyze all audio and video footage. Once everything has been reviewed your case manager will set up a meeting with you to go over their findings.
Privacy:
We strongly believe that every client is entitled to their own privacy dealing with their case. If a client wishes to remain anonymous or keep information about their case and or location private from the public, we will respect their wishes and construct a privacy agreement that fits their needs.
DISCLAIMER:
We like to make sure that every client knows that we can not guarantee to rid your location of any spirits, entities, demons, etc. We are there to document paranormal phenomena and try to help you have a better understanding of what is taking place in your home or place of business. If you're in need of a blessing or exorcism we will do our best to put you in contact with a professional that can perform these tasks for you.
http://paranormalperceptioncrew.yolasite.com/
15 April 2015 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Equipment:
Spirit Box – It uses radio frequency sweeps to generate white noise which theories suggest give some entities the energy they need to be heard. When this occurs you will sometimes here voices or sounds coming through the static in an attempt to communicate.
Ovilus II – The Ovilus has an embedded database of words. It contains an EMF Meter. These readings are combined to create a number and this number is used to reference a database of words. The Ovilus then “speaks” that word. An Ovilus can also operate in a phonetic mode that reacts to EMF variations to create words that are not in the database. There are other types of the Ovilus device, including the Paranormal Puck, Video Ovilus, Ovilus I, Ovilus II, Ovilus FX, Ovilus X (pictured above right),Talker, and The PX.
Dowsing Rods – A device used to find underground water and/or underground minerals. Some use dowsing rods to detect graves and/or the presence of energy thought to be spirits.
Ouija Board/ Planchette – possibly derived from the French and German words for “yes”, oui and ja), also known as a spirit/fire key board or talking board, is a flat board marked with the letters of the alphabet, the numbers 0-9, the words ‘yes’ ‘no’ ‘hello’ and ‘goodbye’, and other symbols and words are sometimes also added to help personalize the board. It is a registered trademark of Hasbro Inc. “, which markets and distributes the Ouija Board as part of its line of board games. It uses a planchette (small heart-shaped piece of wood) or movable indicator to indicate the spirit’s message by spelling it out on the board during a séance. The fingers of the séance participants are placed on the planchette, which then moves about the board to spell out words or become physically manifested. It has become a trademark that is often used generically to refer to any talking board.
Real Time Voice Recorder – A digital voice recorder that allows you to hear EVP’s as they are captured.
Digital Voice Recorder –A sound recording device most commonly used to record speech for later playback or to be typed into print. It includes digital voice recorders and tape recorders.
EVP Field Processor – developed by Larry Odien for the American Paranormal Research Association. The EFP is a modified digital audio recorder that provides a real-time visual display of the sounds recorded.
Jacobs Ladder – the Jacob’s Ladder works via an electrical discharge (spark) forming between two copper rods. This in turn energizes the surrounding atmosphere which then literally feeds the nearby entities with incredible amounts of pure energy. Enabling an entity wishing to communicate to do so more easily than depending upon their natural state’s energy allowances.
MEL Meter – A device that measures electromagnetic energy and temperature and shows readings in a visual display.
EMF Detector – Measures Electromagnetic Energy
Natural EMF Meter – It detects changes in extremely weak static (DC or “natural”) electric and magnetic fields, and signals with both a tone and the movement of a needle-type gauge if either the electric or magnetic field changes from previous levels. A radio and microwave detector is also included, which reads radio power directly.
EMF Pump – A device that emits electromagnetic energy
Tri Field Meter – measures all three types of electromagnetic field: AC magnetic field, AC electric field, and radio (including microwaves)
Magnetic Anomaly Detection System (MADS) – is an instrument used to detect minute variations in the Earth’s magnetic field.
K2 Meter – uses flashing lights to signal an increase in electromagnetic energy.
Geiger Meter – also called a Geiger-Müller counter, is a type of particle detector that measures ionizing radiation. They detect the emission of nuclear radiation: alpha particles, beta particles or gamma rays.
Infrared Video Camera – Records video footage. A device that forms an image using infrared radiation, similar to a common camera that forms an image using visible light. Instead of the 450–750 nanometer range of the visible light camera, infrared cameras operate in wavelengths as long as 14,000 nm (14 µm).
Infrared Digital Still Camera – Takes still images. A device that forms an image using infrared radiation, similar to a common camera that forms an image using visible light. Instead of the 450–750 nanometer range of the visible light camera, infrared cameras operate in wavelengths as long as 14,000 nm (14 µm).
Full Spectrum Camera – Full Spectrum Cameras photograph the entire light spectrum. This includes infrared light, ultraviolet light and the visual light that we can see.
Thermal Imaging Camera – Extremely valuable to paranormal investigators. Because thermal imaging cameras look at heat, not light, they can be used in total darkness. Furthermore, there are many documented instances of entities that are invisible to the naked eye being recorded by a thermal imaging camera.
Point Of View Camera – Shows camera angles that record the scene from a particular person’s viewpoint.
Motion Detector – A device that contains a physical mechanism or electronic sensor that quantifies motion that can be either integrated with or connected to other devices that alert the user of the presence of a moving object within the field of view.
Laser Grid – This high powered laser emits a grid of green dots useful for detecting shadows or general visual disturbances during an investigation. Set it in front of a running camera to catch potential evidence.
https://paranormalperceptioncrew.wordpress.com/equipment/
Spirit Box – It uses radio frequency sweeps to generate white noise which theories suggest give some entities the energy they need to be heard. When this occurs you will sometimes here voices or sounds coming through the static in an attempt to communicate.
Ovilus II – The Ovilus has an embedded database of words. It contains an EMF Meter. These readings are combined to create a number and this number is used to reference a database of words. The Ovilus then “speaks” that word. An Ovilus can also operate in a phonetic mode that reacts to EMF variations to create words that are not in the database. There are other types of the Ovilus device, including the Paranormal Puck, Video Ovilus, Ovilus I, Ovilus II, Ovilus FX, Ovilus X (pictured above right),Talker, and The PX.
Dowsing Rods – A device used to find underground water and/or underground minerals. Some use dowsing rods to detect graves and/or the presence of energy thought to be spirits.
Ouija Board/ Planchette – possibly derived from the French and German words for “yes”, oui and ja), also known as a spirit/fire key board or talking board, is a flat board marked with the letters of the alphabet, the numbers 0-9, the words ‘yes’ ‘no’ ‘hello’ and ‘goodbye’, and other symbols and words are sometimes also added to help personalize the board. It is a registered trademark of Hasbro Inc. “, which markets and distributes the Ouija Board as part of its line of board games. It uses a planchette (small heart-shaped piece of wood) or movable indicator to indicate the spirit’s message by spelling it out on the board during a séance. The fingers of the séance participants are placed on the planchette, which then moves about the board to spell out words or become physically manifested. It has become a trademark that is often used generically to refer to any talking board.
Real Time Voice Recorder – A digital voice recorder that allows you to hear EVP’s as they are captured.
Digital Voice Recorder –A sound recording device most commonly used to record speech for later playback or to be typed into print. It includes digital voice recorders and tape recorders.
EVP Field Processor – developed by Larry Odien for the American Paranormal Research Association. The EFP is a modified digital audio recorder that provides a real-time visual display of the sounds recorded.
Jacobs Ladder – the Jacob’s Ladder works via an electrical discharge (spark) forming between two copper rods. This in turn energizes the surrounding atmosphere which then literally feeds the nearby entities with incredible amounts of pure energy. Enabling an entity wishing to communicate to do so more easily than depending upon their natural state’s energy allowances.
MEL Meter – A device that measures electromagnetic energy and temperature and shows readings in a visual display.
EMF Detector – Measures Electromagnetic Energy
Natural EMF Meter – It detects changes in extremely weak static (DC or “natural”) electric and magnetic fields, and signals with both a tone and the movement of a needle-type gauge if either the electric or magnetic field changes from previous levels. A radio and microwave detector is also included, which reads radio power directly.
EMF Pump – A device that emits electromagnetic energy
Tri Field Meter – measures all three types of electromagnetic field: AC magnetic field, AC electric field, and radio (including microwaves)
Magnetic Anomaly Detection System (MADS) – is an instrument used to detect minute variations in the Earth’s magnetic field.
K2 Meter – uses flashing lights to signal an increase in electromagnetic energy.
Geiger Meter – also called a Geiger-Müller counter, is a type of particle detector that measures ionizing radiation. They detect the emission of nuclear radiation: alpha particles, beta particles or gamma rays.
Infrared Video Camera – Records video footage. A device that forms an image using infrared radiation, similar to a common camera that forms an image using visible light. Instead of the 450–750 nanometer range of the visible light camera, infrared cameras operate in wavelengths as long as 14,000 nm (14 µm).
Infrared Digital Still Camera – Takes still images. A device that forms an image using infrared radiation, similar to a common camera that forms an image using visible light. Instead of the 450–750 nanometer range of the visible light camera, infrared cameras operate in wavelengths as long as 14,000 nm (14 µm).
Full Spectrum Camera – Full Spectrum Cameras photograph the entire light spectrum. This includes infrared light, ultraviolet light and the visual light that we can see.
Thermal Imaging Camera – Extremely valuable to paranormal investigators. Because thermal imaging cameras look at heat, not light, they can be used in total darkness. Furthermore, there are many documented instances of entities that are invisible to the naked eye being recorded by a thermal imaging camera.
Point Of View Camera – Shows camera angles that record the scene from a particular person’s viewpoint.
Motion Detector – A device that contains a physical mechanism or electronic sensor that quantifies motion that can be either integrated with or connected to other devices that alert the user of the presence of a moving object within the field of view.
Laser Grid – This high powered laser emits a grid of green dots useful for detecting shadows or general visual disturbances during an investigation. Set it in front of a running camera to catch potential evidence.
https://paranormalperceptioncrew.wordpress.com/equipment/
https://paranormalperceptioncrew.wordpress.com/equipment/
15 April 2015 19:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Matrixing – When the brain does not recognize what the eyes are seeing and relates it to a familiar image.
Oppression – When an outside force/energy is manipulating an individual subconsciously to perform certain tasks.
Precognition– where nondeductible information about a future event is acquired. Knowing an event is going to take place before it happens.
Precognitive Dreams – To have dreams of events or incidents before they occur.
Inner Voice – Receiving guidance and assistance from your subconscious mind.
Levitation – (from Latin levitas “lightness”) is the process by which an object is suspended by a physical force against gravity, in a stable position without solid physical contact. A number of different techniques have been developed to levitate matter, including the aerodynamic, magnetic,acoustic, electromagnetic, electrostatic, gas film, and optical levitation methods.
Libations – is a ritual pouring of a drink as an offering to a god or spirit or in memory of those who have died. It was common in many religions of antiquity, including Judaism.
Ley Lines– were ‘re-discovered’ by a man called Alfred Watkins (1855-1935), on the 30th June 1921. ‘Ley lines, or Leys, are alignments of ancient sites stretching across the landscape. Ancient sites or holy places may be situated in a straight line ranging from two to several miles in length. A ley may be identified simply by an aligned placing of marker sites, or it might be visible on the ground for all or part of its length by the remnants of an old straight track.’ Ley lines and water lines are found at most ancient monuments and sacred places such as Stone Henge. These magnetic lines and underground water systems are thought by some to be an easy way for spirits to travel or move around by using the extra energy supplied by this naturally occurring earth phenomenon.
Manifestation – the tangible signs of a haunting, including tactile, auditory, olfactory, and visual. When a being collects enough energy to reveal itself.
Marsh lights– Shimmering, moving flames that are sometimes seen at night in marshes and other wet areas. They are also known as Will-o’-the wisps. Marsh lights are caused when the gases of rotting vegetation begin to burn of their own accord.
Moon Madness – As the Lunar cycle waxes to its full point, incidents of psychotic behavior, violence and crime seem to escalate. To a lesser degree, the phase of the New Moon seems correlated to a rash of abnormal behavior. Current understanding of human psychology and physiology refutes the observation that our moon can exert significant influence on the human mind, ‘though statistics support it.
Moon Phases– displays the moon’s current phase and estimates the time of the next full moon, using a calculation of the moon’s rotation and the date. Paranormal activity is thought to increase during a full moon due to the increased magnetic field.
Orb – a sphere of energy that can produce light that may appear as many different colors. The most common color is white.
Optical Illusion– An optical illusion (also called a visual illusion) is characterized by visually perceived images that differ from objective reality. The information gathered by the eye is processed in the brain to give a perception that does not tally with a physical measurement of the stimulus source. There are three main types: literal optical illusions that create images that are different from the objects that make them, physiological ones that are the effects on the eyes and brain of excessive stimulation of a specific type (brightness, colour, size, position, tilt, movement), and cognitive illusions, the result of unconscious inferences.
Past Life Memories- To remember or have mental flashes about living in another lifetime.
Possession – The entry of spirit into the body of a willing or unwilling host, in which the spirit takes control of the individuals motor and cognitive functions.
Prediction– To be able to predict future events before they occur.
Provocation – The act of provoking.
Psycokinesis(PK) – A form of psi, meaning a technique of mind over matter through invisible means. Examples of PK are movements of objects, bending of metals, and determining the outcome of events. It can occur spontaneously and deliberately which indicates it is both an unconscious and conscious process.
Psychometry – To touch an object with your hands and get information about the object, it’s creator, its owner, or it’s history.
Séance – An effort or ceremony to contact the spirit world.
Smudging – smudging is the burning of sacred herbs in tribal cleansing, purification, and prayer ceremonies.
Soul- The spirit of a person. It is not part of the physical body. It is believed to be immortal, surviving after the body dies.
Spirit– The essence of a person that is said to remain after death.
Succubus – In folklore traced back to medieval legend, a succubus (plural succubi) is a female demon appearing in dreams who takes the form of a human woman in order to seduce men, usually through sexual intercourse. The male counterpart is the incubus. Religious traditions hold that repeated intercourse with a succubus may result in the deterioration of health or even death. In modern fictional representations, a succubus may or may not appear in dreams and is often depicted as a highly attractive seductress or enchantress, in contrast to the past where succubi were generally depicted as frightening and demonic.
Subliminal Perception – Sensory impressions below the threshold of conscious awareness.
Superstition- not always rational, the belief that certain objects and actions have supernatural meanings and in some way can bring about unlikely events, or good or bad luck
Supernatural- Departing from what is usual or normal, especially if it appears to defy the laws of nature
Trigger Object – An object that is used to attract an entity. Normally the trigger object is something that the entity used or would recognize from when they were living. For example: If you were investigating a location that was involved with the civil war, some paranormal investigators would bring a musket, cannon ball, or wear civil war uniforms in order to attract entities from that time period.
Vortex – A concentrated yet brief area of high electromagnetic energy found in photographs taken at paranormally active locations. They often appear as solid (opaque) white or silver tubes, rod, or elongated ovals. They can also appear to be braided like rope or chain (cares had to be taken to ensure that it is not a rope, chain or camera strap). A vortex is not an entity. However some paranormal researchers believe that a vortex is a momentary doorway or portal or realm that allows entities and other paranormal phenomena to enter our world. Some researchers also believe that vortexes are linked to the Earth’s own electromagnetic field which help determine when theses portals open/close. It is also believed that some places are more prone to having active vortices due to the alignment in the Earth’s magnetic field and local geological structure.
https://paranormalperceptioncrew.wordpress.com/paranormal-glossary-2/
Oppression – When an outside force/energy is manipulating an individual subconsciously to perform certain tasks.
Precognition– where nondeductible information about a future event is acquired. Knowing an event is going to take place before it happens.
Precognitive Dreams – To have dreams of events or incidents before they occur.
Inner Voice – Receiving guidance and assistance from your subconscious mind.
Levitation – (from Latin levitas “lightness”) is the process by which an object is suspended by a physical force against gravity, in a stable position without solid physical contact. A number of different techniques have been developed to levitate matter, including the aerodynamic, magnetic,acoustic, electromagnetic, electrostatic, gas film, and optical levitation methods.
Libations – is a ritual pouring of a drink as an offering to a god or spirit or in memory of those who have died. It was common in many religions of antiquity, including Judaism.
Ley Lines– were ‘re-discovered’ by a man called Alfred Watkins (1855-1935), on the 30th June 1921. ‘Ley lines, or Leys, are alignments of ancient sites stretching across the landscape. Ancient sites or holy places may be situated in a straight line ranging from two to several miles in length. A ley may be identified simply by an aligned placing of marker sites, or it might be visible on the ground for all or part of its length by the remnants of an old straight track.’ Ley lines and water lines are found at most ancient monuments and sacred places such as Stone Henge. These magnetic lines and underground water systems are thought by some to be an easy way for spirits to travel or move around by using the extra energy supplied by this naturally occurring earth phenomenon.
Manifestation – the tangible signs of a haunting, including tactile, auditory, olfactory, and visual. When a being collects enough energy to reveal itself.
Marsh lights– Shimmering, moving flames that are sometimes seen at night in marshes and other wet areas. They are also known as Will-o’-the wisps. Marsh lights are caused when the gases of rotting vegetation begin to burn of their own accord.
Moon Madness – As the Lunar cycle waxes to its full point, incidents of psychotic behavior, violence and crime seem to escalate. To a lesser degree, the phase of the New Moon seems correlated to a rash of abnormal behavior. Current understanding of human psychology and physiology refutes the observation that our moon can exert significant influence on the human mind, ‘though statistics support it.
Moon Phases– displays the moon’s current phase and estimates the time of the next full moon, using a calculation of the moon’s rotation and the date. Paranormal activity is thought to increase during a full moon due to the increased magnetic field.
Orb – a sphere of energy that can produce light that may appear as many different colors. The most common color is white.
Optical Illusion– An optical illusion (also called a visual illusion) is characterized by visually perceived images that differ from objective reality. The information gathered by the eye is processed in the brain to give a perception that does not tally with a physical measurement of the stimulus source. There are three main types: literal optical illusions that create images that are different from the objects that make them, physiological ones that are the effects on the eyes and brain of excessive stimulation of a specific type (brightness, colour, size, position, tilt, movement), and cognitive illusions, the result of unconscious inferences.
Past Life Memories- To remember or have mental flashes about living in another lifetime.
Possession – The entry of spirit into the body of a willing or unwilling host, in which the spirit takes control of the individuals motor and cognitive functions.
Prediction– To be able to predict future events before they occur.
Provocation – The act of provoking.
Psycokinesis(PK) – A form of psi, meaning a technique of mind over matter through invisible means. Examples of PK are movements of objects, bending of metals, and determining the outcome of events. It can occur spontaneously and deliberately which indicates it is both an unconscious and conscious process.
Psychometry – To touch an object with your hands and get information about the object, it’s creator, its owner, or it’s history.
Séance – An effort or ceremony to contact the spirit world.
Smudging – smudging is the burning of sacred herbs in tribal cleansing, purification, and prayer ceremonies.
Soul- The spirit of a person. It is not part of the physical body. It is believed to be immortal, surviving after the body dies.
Spirit– The essence of a person that is said to remain after death.
Succubus – In folklore traced back to medieval legend, a succubus (plural succubi) is a female demon appearing in dreams who takes the form of a human woman in order to seduce men, usually through sexual intercourse. The male counterpart is the incubus. Religious traditions hold that repeated intercourse with a succubus may result in the deterioration of health or even death. In modern fictional representations, a succubus may or may not appear in dreams and is often depicted as a highly attractive seductress or enchantress, in contrast to the past where succubi were generally depicted as frightening and demonic.
Subliminal Perception – Sensory impressions below the threshold of conscious awareness.
Superstition- not always rational, the belief that certain objects and actions have supernatural meanings and in some way can bring about unlikely events, or good or bad luck
Supernatural- Departing from what is usual or normal, especially if it appears to defy the laws of nature
Trigger Object – An object that is used to attract an entity. Normally the trigger object is something that the entity used or would recognize from when they were living. For example: If you were investigating a location that was involved with the civil war, some paranormal investigators would bring a musket, cannon ball, or wear civil war uniforms in order to attract entities from that time period.
Vortex – A concentrated yet brief area of high electromagnetic energy found in photographs taken at paranormally active locations. They often appear as solid (opaque) white or silver tubes, rod, or elongated ovals. They can also appear to be braided like rope or chain (cares had to be taken to ensure that it is not a rope, chain or camera strap). A vortex is not an entity. However some paranormal researchers believe that a vortex is a momentary doorway or portal or realm that allows entities and other paranormal phenomena to enter our world. Some researchers also believe that vortexes are linked to the Earth’s own electromagnetic field which help determine when theses portals open/close. It is also believed that some places are more prone to having active vortices due to the alignment in the Earth’s magnetic field and local geological structure.
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15 April 2015 19:27
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Ectoplasm (Ectoplasm Phenomena) – is a term used by Charles Richet to denote a substance or spiritual energy “exteriorized” by physical mediums. Ectoplasm is said to be associated with the formation of spirits, and asserted to be an enabling factor in psychokinesis. Ectoplasm is said to be produced by physical mediums when in a trance state. This material is excreted as a gauze – like substance from orifices on the mediums body and spiritual entities are said to drape this substance over their nonphysical body, enabling them to interact in our physical universe.
Incubus – An incubus (nominal form constructed from the Latin verb, incubo, incubare, or “to lie upon”) is a demon in male form who, according to a number of mythological and legendary traditions, lies upon sleepers, especially women, in order to have intercourse with them. Its female counterpart is the succubus. An incubus may pursue sexual relations with a woman in order to father a child, as in the legend of Merlin. Religious tradition holds that repeated intercourse with an incubus or succubus may result in the deterioration of health, or even death. Medieval legend claims that demons, both male and female, sexually prey on human beings – generally during the night when the victim is sleeping.
ESP – (Extrasensory perception) – involves reception of information not gained through the recognized physical senses but sensed with the mind
EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomena) – Disembodied “voices” and sounds imprinted on audio recording devices. Electronically generated noises that resemble speech but are not the result of intentional voice recordings or renderings.
Exorcism – Ceremonial expulsion of invading spiritual/demonic entities from a person or dwelling, present in virtually every worldly culture. The Jewish and Catholic Christian faiths each have a formal ‘Rite of Exorcism’ to be conducted by the respective Rabbi or Priest
Ghost – In traditional belief, a ghost is the name given to that soul or spirit of a deceased person or animal that can appear, in visible form or other manifestation, to the living
Hallucination- An image which seems real, even though it does not physically exist.
Haunting – a haunting consist of high amounts of paranormal activity in one location over long periods of time.
Incubus – An incubus (nominal form constructed from the Latin verb, incubo, incubare, or “to lie upon”) is a demon in male form who, according to a number of mythological and legendary traditions, lies upon sleepers, especially women, in order to have intercourse with them. Its female counterpart is the succubus. An incubus may pursue sexual relations with a woman in order to father a child, as in the legend of Merlin. Religious tradition holds that repeated intercourse with an incubus or succubus may result in the deterioration of health, or even death. Medieval legend claims that demons, both male and female, sexually prey on human beings – generally during the night when the victim is sleeping.
ESP – (Extrasensory perception) – involves reception of information not gained through the recognized physical senses but sensed with the mind
EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomena) – Disembodied “voices” and sounds imprinted on audio recording devices. Electronically generated noises that resemble speech but are not the result of intentional voice recordings or renderings.
Exorcism – Ceremonial expulsion of invading spiritual/demonic entities from a person or dwelling, present in virtually every worldly culture. The Jewish and Catholic Christian faiths each have a formal ‘Rite of Exorcism’ to be conducted by the respective Rabbi or Priest
Ghost – In traditional belief, a ghost is the name given to that soul or spirit of a deceased person or animal that can appear, in visible form or other manifestation, to the living
Hallucination- An image which seems real, even though it does not physically exist.
Haunting – a haunting consist of high amounts of paranormal activity in one location over long periods of time.
15 April 2015 19:24
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Olfactory – Smells or odors, such as perfume or cigar smoke, commonly associated with the area or an individual.
Tactile – Feeling a slight wind in a closed off room, or a tug on your clothing when no one is in the immediate area, being pushed, or having you’re hair pulled.
Banishing – Formal, ceremonial, procedure to cast an invisible presence or influence out from an area. This term can refer to a spiritual cleansing.
Banshee – is a name given to a female spirit, which can be found in Irish and Scottish folklore. The wail of a banshee is associated with the foretelling of an imminent death in the house, outside of which the banshee has previously visited. An omen of impending death in a house, a banshee is a female entity said to herald death by groaning and screaming.
Benign Spirit – A spirit that is not evil or harmful to man. Angels and spirit guides fall into this category as would spirits of loved ones that come back to tell us something.
Bilocation – When an object is seen in two locations at the same time. Padre Pio was said to exhibit bilocation.
Astral Projection– When the soul, spirit or mind separates from the physical body, while maintaining a level of consciousness. Once separated from the physical body this soul then begins to operate at a higher frequency allowing it to travel on the astral plane. This astral plane also operates at a higher frequency than that of the physical plane.
Aura– an emanation, breath or radiation that is invisible to the naked eye. It is often thought to be an invisible surrounding glow emanating from each individual. Some persons believe that they can actually see the aura of a person and depending on its color and form, this is taken as an indication of the mental and physical well being of that person. Kirlian photography deals with the supposed art of photographing this type of phenomena.
Cold spot – an isolated area of dramatically decreased temperature in contrast to the ambient air temperature of the surrounding area.
Curse – To speak a wish of evil against someone or call down forces to hurt someone.
Demon – A very powerful and manipulating non-human entity. These creatures are very strong, unlike human spirits, and they don’t mind showing it. There have been cases where people have been thrown through the air and even attacked. Their main goal is to break down a person’s free will in order to make way for possession. This can take days, months, even years, but time is of no concern to them. They have a hatred for mankind that dates back to the days of God and Lucifer. They have lived for millennia and will be here long after we are gone. You can not destroy a demon. You can remove a demon from a person or a dwelling through religious provocation. A demons appearance is always changing. They can portray themselves as a small child, or a tall man, They can have the head of an animal, the torso of a man, and the hairy legs of an animal. Most demons are associated with Shadow figures. There are many different types of demons.
Demonic Possession – is held by many belief systems to be the control of an individual by malevolent or supernatural being. Descriptions of demonic possessions often include erased memories or personalities, convulsions, “fits” and fainting, drastic changes in vocal intonation and facial structure, superhuman strength, sudden appearance of injuries or lesions (scratches, bite marks), access to hidden knowledge (gnosis) and foreign languages (glossolalia), and anger towards religious figures and objects. Unlike Channeling or other forms of possession, the subject has no control over the possessing entity. The entity will pursue the victim until it is forced to leave, usually through a form of exorcism.
Demonologist – A person who studies Demonology.
Doppleganger – Also known as a fetch, this ghost is supposed to be the double of a living human being. If people are unfortunate enough to see their own doppelganger , it can be an omen that they will die in the near future.
Tactile – Feeling a slight wind in a closed off room, or a tug on your clothing when no one is in the immediate area, being pushed, or having you’re hair pulled.
Banishing – Formal, ceremonial, procedure to cast an invisible presence or influence out from an area. This term can refer to a spiritual cleansing.
Banshee – is a name given to a female spirit, which can be found in Irish and Scottish folklore. The wail of a banshee is associated with the foretelling of an imminent death in the house, outside of which the banshee has previously visited. An omen of impending death in a house, a banshee is a female entity said to herald death by groaning and screaming.
Benign Spirit – A spirit that is not evil or harmful to man. Angels and spirit guides fall into this category as would spirits of loved ones that come back to tell us something.
Bilocation – When an object is seen in two locations at the same time. Padre Pio was said to exhibit bilocation.
Astral Projection– When the soul, spirit or mind separates from the physical body, while maintaining a level of consciousness. Once separated from the physical body this soul then begins to operate at a higher frequency allowing it to travel on the astral plane. This astral plane also operates at a higher frequency than that of the physical plane.
Aura– an emanation, breath or radiation that is invisible to the naked eye. It is often thought to be an invisible surrounding glow emanating from each individual. Some persons believe that they can actually see the aura of a person and depending on its color and form, this is taken as an indication of the mental and physical well being of that person. Kirlian photography deals with the supposed art of photographing this type of phenomena.
Cold spot – an isolated area of dramatically decreased temperature in contrast to the ambient air temperature of the surrounding area.
Curse – To speak a wish of evil against someone or call down forces to hurt someone.
Demon – A very powerful and manipulating non-human entity. These creatures are very strong, unlike human spirits, and they don’t mind showing it. There have been cases where people have been thrown through the air and even attacked. Their main goal is to break down a person’s free will in order to make way for possession. This can take days, months, even years, but time is of no concern to them. They have a hatred for mankind that dates back to the days of God and Lucifer. They have lived for millennia and will be here long after we are gone. You can not destroy a demon. You can remove a demon from a person or a dwelling through religious provocation. A demons appearance is always changing. They can portray themselves as a small child, or a tall man, They can have the head of an animal, the torso of a man, and the hairy legs of an animal. Most demons are associated with Shadow figures. There are many different types of demons.
Demonic Possession – is held by many belief systems to be the control of an individual by malevolent or supernatural being. Descriptions of demonic possessions often include erased memories or personalities, convulsions, “fits” and fainting, drastic changes in vocal intonation and facial structure, superhuman strength, sudden appearance of injuries or lesions (scratches, bite marks), access to hidden knowledge (gnosis) and foreign languages (glossolalia), and anger towards religious figures and objects. Unlike Channeling or other forms of possession, the subject has no control over the possessing entity. The entity will pursue the victim until it is forced to leave, usually through a form of exorcism.
Demonologist – A person who studies Demonology.
Doppleganger – Also known as a fetch, this ghost is supposed to be the double of a living human being. If people are unfortunate enough to see their own doppelganger , it can be an omen that they will die in the near future.
15 April 2015 19:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
OKey maybe that went to simple and limiting am suspect to see what is behind on it.. but hey. Still something.
15 April 2015 19:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Angelology – The study of angels. Angels have been grouped into nine categories, from lowest to highest: angel, virtue, archangel, power, principality, minion, throne, cherub, and seraph.
Parapsychology – is a discipline that seeks to investigate the existence and causes and conditions of psychic abilities, near-death experiences, out-of-body experiences, crisis apparitions, retro-cognitions, reincarnation memories, regression memories, prophecy, astrology, ghosts and life after death. Parapsychological experiments have included the use of random number generators to test for evidence of precognition and psychokinesis with both human and animal subjects. And Ganzfeld experiment to test for ESP.
Crypto-zoology – The branch of paranormal research, which deals with the exploration of legendary creatures such as Bigfoot, lake and sea monsters, thunderbirds, etc.
Occam’s Razor – “the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one.” is a principle that generally recommends, when faced with competing hypotheses that are equal in other respects, selecting the one that makes the fewest new assumptions
Geomagnetism and the paranormal – in some paranormal research geomagnetism can be linked with the occurrence of paranormal and anomalous phenomena. studies have shown apparent connections between the timing of paranormal reports (such as ghosts, UFOs, cryptids) and variations in the geomagnetic field.
Geomagnetic weather – Geomagnetic variations (or geomagnetic ‘weather’) are not as dramatic as many people imagine. Though they do cause auroras and can even bring down electrical regional power supplies, local overall field changes are far from dramatic. A large geomagnetic storm produces a reduction of around 0.5% in the overall field. What is more, this change is spread over many hours. Most storms are far less intense than that. Thus, local field variations are not hugely dramatic at all. It seems doubtful, on the face of it, that such minor field variations could lead to significant changes in the number of paranormal reports though more research is needed.
Geological faults – A fault is fracture in the local rock strata. It is effectively a crack along which rock strata move. This does not mean that you would necessarily see a big crack if you actually saw a fault (though sometimes you can, in cliff faces, for instance). The movement along faults is caused by tectonic forces (such as tectonic plates moving). Faults are not usually a clean single line but an area of compressed rock (where rocks have moved or are under extreme pressure) on either side of the line, called a fault zone. The reason why paranormal researchers are interested in faults is partly because of rare (anomalous) phenomena called earthquake lights but mostly because of the Tectonic Strain Theory.
Tectonic strain theory – The most popular idea linking geology and reports of the paranormal is the Tectonic Strain Theory. Essentially, the Tectonic Strain Theory (TST) states that stresses within the Earth’s crust, less than those required to produce an earthquake, may result in highly localized surface electromagnetic disturbances through piezoelectricity (or some other mechanism) in sub-surface rocks. Piezoelectricity is the phenomenon whereby certain crystals, notably quartz, produce an electric charge across opposite crystal faces when under physical pressure or strain. It is hypothesized that the electric and magnetic fields produced by such rock strain will be commonest near geological faults. These cracks in the Earth’s crust are, like cracks in most objects, signs of strain and movement.
Wiccan – (wicca) the polytheistic nature religion of modern witchcraft whose central deity is a mother goddess; claims origins in pre-Christian pagan religions of western Europe.
Pagan – A person holding religious beliefs other than those of the main world religions.
Satanism – The worship of Satan
Ionized Air & the Paranormal – Although anomalous paranormal occurrences take place on the infrared portion of the EM spectrum they create a pocket of ionized air when they physically manifest in our local environment. The bioelectric charge of the anomaly creates a weak electrical matrix in the local atmosphere when the anomaly manifests. The electrical matrix then ionizes the air around the area of the manifestation. The ionized air symmetrically radiates outward from the point of manifestation and is experienced as a cool sensation or, as paranormal investigators calls it, a cold spot. From this explanation we understand that although the manifestation takes place in the infrared spectrum it is actually the ionized air that creates the cooling effect. Spirits draw energy from the air as well as electrical devices, Electrical storms, nd thermal energy from people and animals. Using ionizers would increase the amount of energy aids in spirit manifestation.
Full Moon Theory – The phases of the moon have an affect on the geomagnetic field. Most paranormal investigators believe that geomagnetic fields are strongest at the full moon and new moon phases causing paranormal activity to intensify.
Parapsychology – is a discipline that seeks to investigate the existence and causes and conditions of psychic abilities, near-death experiences, out-of-body experiences, crisis apparitions, retro-cognitions, reincarnation memories, regression memories, prophecy, astrology, ghosts and life after death. Parapsychological experiments have included the use of random number generators to test for evidence of precognition and psychokinesis with both human and animal subjects. And Ganzfeld experiment to test for ESP.
Crypto-zoology – The branch of paranormal research, which deals with the exploration of legendary creatures such as Bigfoot, lake and sea monsters, thunderbirds, etc.
Occam’s Razor – “the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one.” is a principle that generally recommends, when faced with competing hypotheses that are equal in other respects, selecting the one that makes the fewest new assumptions
Geomagnetism and the paranormal – in some paranormal research geomagnetism can be linked with the occurrence of paranormal and anomalous phenomena. studies have shown apparent connections between the timing of paranormal reports (such as ghosts, UFOs, cryptids) and variations in the geomagnetic field.
Geomagnetic weather – Geomagnetic variations (or geomagnetic ‘weather’) are not as dramatic as many people imagine. Though they do cause auroras and can even bring down electrical regional power supplies, local overall field changes are far from dramatic. A large geomagnetic storm produces a reduction of around 0.5% in the overall field. What is more, this change is spread over many hours. Most storms are far less intense than that. Thus, local field variations are not hugely dramatic at all. It seems doubtful, on the face of it, that such minor field variations could lead to significant changes in the number of paranormal reports though more research is needed.
Geological faults – A fault is fracture in the local rock strata. It is effectively a crack along which rock strata move. This does not mean that you would necessarily see a big crack if you actually saw a fault (though sometimes you can, in cliff faces, for instance). The movement along faults is caused by tectonic forces (such as tectonic plates moving). Faults are not usually a clean single line but an area of compressed rock (where rocks have moved or are under extreme pressure) on either side of the line, called a fault zone. The reason why paranormal researchers are interested in faults is partly because of rare (anomalous) phenomena called earthquake lights but mostly because of the Tectonic Strain Theory.
Tectonic strain theory – The most popular idea linking geology and reports of the paranormal is the Tectonic Strain Theory. Essentially, the Tectonic Strain Theory (TST) states that stresses within the Earth’s crust, less than those required to produce an earthquake, may result in highly localized surface electromagnetic disturbances through piezoelectricity (or some other mechanism) in sub-surface rocks. Piezoelectricity is the phenomenon whereby certain crystals, notably quartz, produce an electric charge across opposite crystal faces when under physical pressure or strain. It is hypothesized that the electric and magnetic fields produced by such rock strain will be commonest near geological faults. These cracks in the Earth’s crust are, like cracks in most objects, signs of strain and movement.
Wiccan – (wicca) the polytheistic nature religion of modern witchcraft whose central deity is a mother goddess; claims origins in pre-Christian pagan religions of western Europe.
Pagan – A person holding religious beliefs other than those of the main world religions.
Satanism – The worship of Satan
Ionized Air & the Paranormal – Although anomalous paranormal occurrences take place on the infrared portion of the EM spectrum they create a pocket of ionized air when they physically manifest in our local environment. The bioelectric charge of the anomaly creates a weak electrical matrix in the local atmosphere when the anomaly manifests. The electrical matrix then ionizes the air around the area of the manifestation. The ionized air symmetrically radiates outward from the point of manifestation and is experienced as a cool sensation or, as paranormal investigators calls it, a cold spot. From this explanation we understand that although the manifestation takes place in the infrared spectrum it is actually the ionized air that creates the cooling effect. Spirits draw energy from the air as well as electrical devices, Electrical storms, nd thermal energy from people and animals. Using ionizers would increase the amount of energy aids in spirit manifestation.
Full Moon Theory – The phases of the moon have an affect on the geomagnetic field. Most paranormal investigators believe that geomagnetic fields are strongest at the full moon and new moon phases causing paranormal activity to intensify.
15 April 2015 19:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Occam’s Razor – “the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one.” is a principle that generally recommends, when faced with competing hypotheses that are equal in other respects, selecting the one that makes the fewest new assumptions
Geomagnetism and the paranormal – in some paranormal research geomagnetism can be linked with the occurrence of paranormal and anomalous phenomena. studies have shown apparent connections between the timing of paranormal reports (such as ghosts, UFOs, cryptids) and variations in the geomagnetic field.
Geomagnetic weather – Geomagnetic variations (or geomagnetic ‘weather’) are not as dramatic as many people imagine. Though they do cause auroras and can even bring down electrical regional power supplies, local overall field changes are far from dramatic. A large geomagnetic storm produces a reduction of around 0.5% in the overall field. What is more, this change is spread over many hours. Most storms are far less intense than that. Thus, local field variations are not hugely dramatic at all. It seems doubtful, on the face of it, that such minor field variations could lead to significant changes in the number of paranormal reports though more research is needed.
Geological faults – A fault is fracture in the local rock strata. It is effectively a crack along which rock strata move. This does not mean that you would necessarily see a big crack if you actually saw a fault (though sometimes you can, in cliff faces, for instance). The movement along faults is caused by tectonic forces (such as tectonic plates moving). Faults are not usually a clean single line but an area of compressed rock (where rocks have moved or are under extreme pressure) on either side of the line, called a fault zone. The reason why paranormal researchers are interested in faults is partly because of rare (anomalous) phenomena called earthquake lights but mostly because of the Tectonic Strain Theory.
Tectonic strain theory – The most popular idea linking geology and reports of the paranormal is the Tectonic Strain Theory. Essentially, the Tectonic Strain Theory (TST) states that stresses within the Earth’s crust, less than those required to produce an earthquake, may result in highly localized surface electromagnetic disturbances through piezoelectricity (or some other mechanism) in sub-surface rocks. Piezoelectricity is the phenomenon whereby certain crystals, notably quartz, produce an electric charge across opposite crystal faces when under physical pressure or strain. It is hypothesized that the electric and magnetic fields produced by such rock strain will be commonest near geological faults. These cracks in the Earth’s crust are, like cracks in most objects, signs of strain and movement.
Wiccan – (wicca) the polytheistic nature religion of modern witchcraft whose central deity is a mother goddess; claims origins in pre-Christian pagan religions of western Europe.
Pagan – A person holding religious beliefs other than those of the main world religions.
Satanism – The worship of Satan
Ionized Air & the Paranormal – Although anomalous paranormal occurrences take place on the infrared portion of the EM spectrum they create a pocket of ionized air when they physically manifest in our local environment. The bioelectric charge of the anomaly creates a weak electrical matrix in the local atmosphere when the anomaly manifests. The electrical matrix then ionizes the air around the area of the manifestation. The ionized air symmetrically radiates outward from the point of manifestation and is experienced as a cool sensation or, as paranormal investigators calls it, a cold spot. From this explanation we understand that although the manifestation takes place in the infrared spectrum it is actually the ionized air that creates the cooling effect. Spirits draw energy from the air as well as electrical devices, Electrical storms, nd thermal energy from people and animals. Using ionizers would increase the amount of energy aids in spirit manifestation.
Full Moon Theory – The phases of the moon have an affect on the geomagnetic field. Most paranormal investigators believe that geomagnetic fields are strongest at the full moon and new moon phases causing paranormal activity to intensify.
Geomagnetism and the paranormal – in some paranormal research geomagnetism can be linked with the occurrence of paranormal and anomalous phenomena. studies have shown apparent connections between the timing of paranormal reports (such as ghosts, UFOs, cryptids) and variations in the geomagnetic field.
Geomagnetic weather – Geomagnetic variations (or geomagnetic ‘weather’) are not as dramatic as many people imagine. Though they do cause auroras and can even bring down electrical regional power supplies, local overall field changes are far from dramatic. A large geomagnetic storm produces a reduction of around 0.5% in the overall field. What is more, this change is spread over many hours. Most storms are far less intense than that. Thus, local field variations are not hugely dramatic at all. It seems doubtful, on the face of it, that such minor field variations could lead to significant changes in the number of paranormal reports though more research is needed.
Geological faults – A fault is fracture in the local rock strata. It is effectively a crack along which rock strata move. This does not mean that you would necessarily see a big crack if you actually saw a fault (though sometimes you can, in cliff faces, for instance). The movement along faults is caused by tectonic forces (such as tectonic plates moving). Faults are not usually a clean single line but an area of compressed rock (where rocks have moved or are under extreme pressure) on either side of the line, called a fault zone. The reason why paranormal researchers are interested in faults is partly because of rare (anomalous) phenomena called earthquake lights but mostly because of the Tectonic Strain Theory.
Tectonic strain theory – The most popular idea linking geology and reports of the paranormal is the Tectonic Strain Theory. Essentially, the Tectonic Strain Theory (TST) states that stresses within the Earth’s crust, less than those required to produce an earthquake, may result in highly localized surface electromagnetic disturbances through piezoelectricity (or some other mechanism) in sub-surface rocks. Piezoelectricity is the phenomenon whereby certain crystals, notably quartz, produce an electric charge across opposite crystal faces when under physical pressure or strain. It is hypothesized that the electric and magnetic fields produced by such rock strain will be commonest near geological faults. These cracks in the Earth’s crust are, like cracks in most objects, signs of strain and movement.
Wiccan – (wicca) the polytheistic nature religion of modern witchcraft whose central deity is a mother goddess; claims origins in pre-Christian pagan religions of western Europe.
Pagan – A person holding religious beliefs other than those of the main world religions.
Satanism – The worship of Satan
Ionized Air & the Paranormal – Although anomalous paranormal occurrences take place on the infrared portion of the EM spectrum they create a pocket of ionized air when they physically manifest in our local environment. The bioelectric charge of the anomaly creates a weak electrical matrix in the local atmosphere when the anomaly manifests. The electrical matrix then ionizes the air around the area of the manifestation. The ionized air symmetrically radiates outward from the point of manifestation and is experienced as a cool sensation or, as paranormal investigators calls it, a cold spot. From this explanation we understand that although the manifestation takes place in the infrared spectrum it is actually the ionized air that creates the cooling effect. Spirits draw energy from the air as well as electrical devices, Electrical storms, nd thermal energy from people and animals. Using ionizers would increase the amount of energy aids in spirit manifestation.
Full Moon Theory – The phases of the moon have an affect on the geomagnetic field. Most paranormal investigators believe that geomagnetic fields are strongest at the full moon and new moon phases causing paranormal activity to intensify.
15 April 2015 19:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Religion/Occult/Theory/Studies:
Reincarnation – The belief that a person’s soul will, following bodily death, inhabit a new body in a long cycle of rebirths, purportedly for the soul’s evolution through gaining experience.
Christianity – a monotheistic system of beliefs and practices based on the Old Testament and the teachings of Jesus as embodied in the New Testament and emphasizing the role of Jesus as savior.
Judaism – is the “religion, philosophy, and way of life” of the Jewish people. Originating in the Hebrew Bible (also known as the Tanakh) and explored in later texts such as the Talmud, it is considered by Jews to be the expression of the covenantal relationship God developed with the Children of Israel.
Islam – The monotheistic religious system of Muslims founded in Arabia in the 7th century and based on the teachings of Muhammad as laid down in the Koran; “Islam is a complete way of life, not a Sunday religion”.
Santeria – A pantheistic Afro-Cuban religious cult developed from the beliefs and customs of the Yoruba people and incorporating some elements of the Catholic religion.
Voodoo – A religion practiced chiefly in Caribbean countries, especially Haiti, syncretized from Roman Catholic ritual elements and the animism and magic of slaves from West Africa, in which a supreme God rules a large pantheon of local and tutelary deities, deified ancestors, and saints, who communicate with believers in dreams, trances, and ritual possessions. Also called vodoun.
Akasha – is believed by some mystical doctrines to be a mystical, spiritual substance where “memories” are stored since the beginning of time. It is one of the five elements in Hindu philosophy and is often described as a form of atmosphere or ether. The Akasha is thought by some to contain a record of everything that has ever happened, but also everything that will ever come to pass in the future. Theosophists believe that persons with special psychic powers can tap into the Akasha or “Astral Light”. They achieve this by using their astral bodies or “astral senses” to search for spiritual insights which have been stored for all eternity.
Scientology – A religious system based on the seeking of self-knowledge and spiritual fulfillment through graded courses of study and training. It was founded by American science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard (1911–86) in 1955.
– is the systematic study of demons or beliefs about demons. It is the branch of theology relating to superhuman beings who are not gods. It deals both with benevolent beings that have no circle of worshipers or so limited a circle as to be below the rank of gods, and with malevolent beings of all kinds. The original sense of “demon”, from the time of Homer Onward, was a benevolent being, but in English the name now holds connotations of malevolence.
Angelology – The study of angels. Angels have been grouped into nine categories, from lowest to highest: angel, virtue, archangel, power, principality, minion, throne, cherub, and seraph.
Parapsychology – is a discipline that seeks to investigate the existence and causes and conditions of psychic abilities, near-death experiences, out-of-body experiences, crisis apparitions, retro-cognitions, reincarnation memories, regression memories, prophecy, astrology, ghosts and life after death. Parapsychological experiments have included the use of random number generators to test for evidence of precognition and psychokinesis with both human and animal subjects. And Ganzfeld experiment to test for ESP.
Crypto-zoology – The branch of paranormal research, which deals with the exploration of legendary creatures such as Bigfoot, lake and sea monsters, thunderbirds, etc.
https://paranormalperceptioncrew.wordpress.com/religionocculttheorystudies/
Reincarnation – The belief that a person’s soul will, following bodily death, inhabit a new body in a long cycle of rebirths, purportedly for the soul’s evolution through gaining experience.
Christianity – a monotheistic system of beliefs and practices based on the Old Testament and the teachings of Jesus as embodied in the New Testament and emphasizing the role of Jesus as savior.
Judaism – is the “religion, philosophy, and way of life” of the Jewish people. Originating in the Hebrew Bible (also known as the Tanakh) and explored in later texts such as the Talmud, it is considered by Jews to be the expression of the covenantal relationship God developed with the Children of Israel.
Islam – The monotheistic religious system of Muslims founded in Arabia in the 7th century and based on the teachings of Muhammad as laid down in the Koran; “Islam is a complete way of life, not a Sunday religion”.
Santeria – A pantheistic Afro-Cuban religious cult developed from the beliefs and customs of the Yoruba people and incorporating some elements of the Catholic religion.
Voodoo – A religion practiced chiefly in Caribbean countries, especially Haiti, syncretized from Roman Catholic ritual elements and the animism and magic of slaves from West Africa, in which a supreme God rules a large pantheon of local and tutelary deities, deified ancestors, and saints, who communicate with believers in dreams, trances, and ritual possessions. Also called vodoun.
Akasha – is believed by some mystical doctrines to be a mystical, spiritual substance where “memories” are stored since the beginning of time. It is one of the five elements in Hindu philosophy and is often described as a form of atmosphere or ether. The Akasha is thought by some to contain a record of everything that has ever happened, but also everything that will ever come to pass in the future. Theosophists believe that persons with special psychic powers can tap into the Akasha or “Astral Light”. They achieve this by using their astral bodies or “astral senses” to search for spiritual insights which have been stored for all eternity.
Scientology – A religious system based on the seeking of self-knowledge and spiritual fulfillment through graded courses of study and training. It was founded by American science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard (1911–86) in 1955.
– is the systematic study of demons or beliefs about demons. It is the branch of theology relating to superhuman beings who are not gods. It deals both with benevolent beings that have no circle of worshipers or so limited a circle as to be below the rank of gods, and with malevolent beings of all kinds. The original sense of “demon”, from the time of Homer Onward, was a benevolent being, but in English the name now holds connotations of malevolence.
Angelology – The study of angels. Angels have been grouped into nine categories, from lowest to highest: angel, virtue, archangel, power, principality, minion, throne, cherub, and seraph.
Parapsychology – is a discipline that seeks to investigate the existence and causes and conditions of psychic abilities, near-death experiences, out-of-body experiences, crisis apparitions, retro-cognitions, reincarnation memories, regression memories, prophecy, astrology, ghosts and life after death. Parapsychological experiments have included the use of random number generators to test for evidence of precognition and psychokinesis with both human and animal subjects. And Ganzfeld experiment to test for ESP.
Crypto-zoology – The branch of paranormal research, which deals with the exploration of legendary creatures such as Bigfoot, lake and sea monsters, thunderbirds, etc.
https://paranormalperceptioncrew.wordpress.com/religionocculttheorystudies/
https://paranormalperceptioncrew.wordpress.com/religionocculttheorystudies/
15 April 2015 19:17
Margus Meigo replied to Teresa Lebamoff Alt's comment.
hahhaa suuuuuure...
happy.. foot
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/happy-feet-two2.jpg
happy.. foot
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/happy-feet-two2.jpg
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/happy-feet-two2.jpg
15 April 2015 19:02
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
As Jewish is as radical as it can be (about how things are) the punk lyrics of Jewish is some whole new dimension of radical truths i can imagine,
Must look in to that for sure some days : )
Must look in to that for sure some days : )
15 April 2015 18:56
Margus Meigo commented on Ingrid Peek's post.
Group: TOORTOIT
Küll neid parimaid puhastajad ikka tuleb palju... ikka peaks otsustama millise puhastuse osas, milisele organismile ja mis ajal on mis parim,millega koos15 April 2015 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Vilbas's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Seen muidu hea nii metsas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2C6zo7F0kg
kui praetult (kuivatatud seen praetult)... see NII maitsev, ilma ühegi muu maitseaineta kui taluvõiga teha, et .. peab väga piirama.. et kõike varusi korraga ära ei söö.. eriti kuna ta võtab llummusesse ka kiirelt.. ja olenevalt sellest mis puust (ja sellest tulenevate soovidega) oled... siis saad ka näha, teadaja tunda mida Sul vaja,
vana Eesti jumala kasvatus.. peksa saab ka kui vaja, kuid peamine, ära ole ülbe ja ära karda.
KUid ole mitte ka niisama tormakas ja õpi ka ettevaatlikust,
siin praen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPjex2yAVHc Jammy!
(ühes maailas sai sedasi peksa, et veri tuli "siia tulles" ka ninas kaasa ja mokk oli lõhki ja silme all jäljed... muidugi minu ümber polnud verd ega selle jälgi, ise olin aga korralikult küll klobitud ja lõigatud. Võid ka vanakurja otsa sattuda, ning maailma pahemate tegude valu enda peale võtta moraalselt.. kui oled valmis reaalselt ise vahele astuma ja ise ennast andes teiste valu leevendama. See muidugi võib ka olla paras trik... nu ja siis päris kaugele minna, siis lõpuks Sa enam ei saagi aru mis vahe on Sinul mehena ja Su emal.. peale selle, et ta Sind endiselt elus hoiab, kuid .. eks teil naisel omad seletused selle ilma jaoks tulevad.. igatahes mingi maisete sõdade pärast ma ainuüksi küll enam ammu ei muretse. )https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2C6zo7F0kg
14 April 2015 23:44
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Vilbas's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Siin veel lugemist, eriti panna rõhku sellele jutu viimasele lõigule, koduloomadega
http://kogujamees.blogspot.com/2013/12/karbseseene-psuhhedeelne-maagia.htmlhttp://kogujamees.blogspot.com/2013/12/karbseseene-psuhhedeelne-maagia.html
14 April 2015 23:34
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Roosileht's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Üks hea preester on keda soovitaks kuulata Youtubest, tal isegi oli loeng "Kuidas armastada" ing keeles
Nimi on: Anthony de Mello
Kuigi ta suts otsekohene osades asjades... on ta nagu india magus spicy toit: terav kuid maitsvalt magus.14 April 2015 18:37
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Roosileht's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Inimestes ei saa tegelt pettuda, saab pettuda ainult enda loodud ettekujutluses mille inimesest tegime.
Ega inimene siis süüdi pole, et me teda valesti ette kujutaisme (kellegi teisena kui ta on)14 April 2015 18:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mitte, et meil midagi varjata oleks.. lihtsalt harjumus võiks olla selline..
13 April 2015 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Usaldust lisab juurde telesaadetele ja üritustele, kus kogu täis toormaterial kättesaadav on ja lisaks otse live feed YT lisaks veel oma jägu usaldust juurde, see tasuta, lihtne ja kättesaadav kõigile, ei ole ühtegi vabandust eriti seda mitte kasutada, eriti arvestades, et me ju ette ei tea millal raamatukogu uksed kinni pannakse...
ja siis saad rahulikult nokitseda korraliku prae tegemisel seni kuni teised einestavad ja ei roni seljas. Musta materiali alla saab panna lingi milles inimesed saavad ennast kirja panna kui uus material tuleb või siis link kust antakse teada, twitter tagide jms just selle feediga seotud uuendusi.
Küll siis inimesd lõpuks ise ka kasutama õpivad neid teavitusi kui ise jätkusuutlikud oleme
(see siin ei käi Telegrammi konverentsi pihta momendil, sest see suht avalik oli, kuid üldiselt, tulevikus, iga asja suhtes võiks võtta sellise suhtumise)
ja siis saad rahulikult nokitseda korraliku prae tegemisel seni kuni teised einestavad ja ei roni seljas. Musta materiali alla saab panna lingi milles inimesed saavad ennast kirja panna kui uus material tuleb või siis link kust antakse teada, twitter tagide jms just selle feediga seotud uuendusi.
Küll siis inimesd lõpuks ise ka kasutama õpivad neid teavitusi kui ise jätkusuutlikud oleme
(see siin ei käi Telegrammi konverentsi pihta momendil, sest see suht avalik oli, kuid üldiselt, tulevikus, iga asja suhtes võiks võtta sellise suhtumise)
13 April 2015 18:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Või noh, meil on Kogu aeg mis meil on, lihtsalt vaja ei ole jääga peitusesse kinni kui vajalikku.
Well, we got All the time, just there is no need to get stuck in to hiding as necessity.
Well, we got All the time, just there is no need to get stuck in to hiding as necessity.
13 April 2015 17:02
Margus Meigo commented on Henri Holtsmeier's post.
communist dreams come big in a Jackpot scale
13 April 2015 16:39
Margus Meigo commented on Henri Holtsmeier's post.
Isnt that glorious
13 April 2015 16:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ref: Hingetuna langen su käte vahele
Mind teadsid kinni püüda
Hingetuna mind viimaks panid tähele
Ning keegi seda ei muuda
Hetkel mil kõik tundub nii mõttetu
Läinud mu rong kuid kas tuleb uus
Jalge all tee näib mulle lõputu
Jõudes su juurde sõnad kadunud suult
Kuid siis hingetuna langen su käte vahele...
Ref:
Nüüd möödas on aeg mil kartsin et lähed sa
Mind murda ei saa seda kindlalt tean
Päike on tõusmas tunnen et naerda taas ma saan
Läinud on öö jäänud alles vaid hea
Oo miks tundus mul et ei kohtu me vist eal
Oo miks tundus mul kord siit sind leidma pean
Kuid siis hingetuna langen su käte vahele...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WdwE6sixi4
Htkeks mõtlesin, et laulus ainul refrään ongi : )
.. midagi on veel siin laulus mis siin sõnades pole
Mind teadsid kinni püüda
Hingetuna mind viimaks panid tähele
Ning keegi seda ei muuda
Hetkel mil kõik tundub nii mõttetu
Läinud mu rong kuid kas tuleb uus
Jalge all tee näib mulle lõputu
Jõudes su juurde sõnad kadunud suult
Kuid siis hingetuna langen su käte vahele...
Ref:
Nüüd möödas on aeg mil kartsin et lähed sa
Mind murda ei saa seda kindlalt tean
Päike on tõusmas tunnen et naerda taas ma saan
Läinud on öö jäänud alles vaid hea
Oo miks tundus mul et ei kohtu me vist eal
Oo miks tundus mul kord siit sind leidma pean
Kuid siis hingetuna langen su käte vahele...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WdwE6sixi4
Htkeks mõtlesin, et laulus ainul refrään ongi : )
.. midagi on veel siin laulus mis siin sõnades pole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WdwE6sixi4
13 April 2015 15:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Biit version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C-n8qWLOQs
Päris hea töö tehtud liikumistega jms . )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C-n8qWLOQs
Päris hea töö tehtud liikumistega jms . )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C-n8qWLOQs
13 April 2015 15:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Eestimaa liblikad
Mul neid nii isa kui ema pool kodus on toas.. kuid õue ka ei saa lasta kui veel öökülmad on eks?13 April 2015 10:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mine tea, siis need vb mini taanlased keda neis karpides veetakse :D (ahjaa, töö on taanis unustasin pisiasja mainida vist)
12 April 2015 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Juta aga Sa reaalne karm Eesti loodus naine ka :p
Kuid eks telekas veel miskit maadiat kasutati.. sest meil endal lähi tutavad said väga hirmutava kogemuse osaliseks kus nad hüpnoosi kinni jäid ja igast jamasi oli..
Kuid eks telekas veel miskit maadiat kasutati.. sest meil endal lähi tutavad said väga hirmutava kogemuse osaliseks kus nad hüpnoosi kinni jäid ja igast jamasi oli..
12 April 2015 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
küd nüüdseks juba lännud ma pakun
Ma olen peaaegu kindel ,et ta ütles et D kat
Ma olen peaaegu kindel ,et ta ütles et D kat
12 April 2015 01:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mulle ise helistati, kuid mul pole lubasi ja soovi sõitaautoga
12 April 2015 01:57
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
Keep wizards near shrooms!
11 April 2015 20:24
Margus Meigo commented on Telegram's post.
Jeeee Ja videod ka varsti! ? : ))
10 April 2015 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
And to give perspective ... specially to Finno and Uralic tree.. http://io9.com/this-linguistic-family-tree-is-simply-gorgeous-1665073690
http://io9.com/this-linguistic-family-tree-is-simply-gorgeous-1665073690
9 April 2015 11:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
With greetings from Ukraine
"Brainwashing at its best it is reminiscent of the Soviet TV propaganda with a benevolent flair to it."
"Back in the Soviet union we used to have this popular TV program by Anatoly Kashpirovsky where he was hypnotizing the whole country through TV. You could see people falling into trance, sleepwalking, raising their hands when Kashpirowski told them to...
Kashpirovsky had this heavy gaze and used to count slowly and tell people that "everything is good", "your headache is gone", "you feel light and happy"... Imagine all this was happening at the end of 80s, when the Soviet union was collapsing and some people didn't have much to eat. The best of escapist TV ever!
Basically, he started each session counting from 1 to 33 and then telling the audience how they are feeling. Something like "the head is light", "your mood is great", "you started to sleep well", "you stopped stuttering", etc.
Staring into the screen with quite an austere look in his eyes, he was using pretty harsh intonation, almost like a mix of a father and an army general. He would normally employ simple cause effect connections "as you're hearing my voice, you will start feeling..." or "as I'm finishing counting, you will have a desire to meet me again..." and so on...
Brainwashing at its best it is reminiscent of the Soviet TV propaganda with a benevolent flair to it.
Wikipedia mentions that Kashpirovsky is originally from Ukraine, worked as a psychotherapist for 25 years, and became famous in 1989 when he was shown to remove pain from two patients, who have just undergone a surgery. He then had his own TV show and gained notoriety before becoming a Duma (parlament) deputy in 1993 and moving to the USA in 1995. Kashpirowski is also a champion in weight-lifting and his grand-daughter (who lives in the USA now) used to be a champion in karate."
http://waytorussia.net/blog/post-russianhypnotistkashpirovsky-20080606/
"Brainwashing at its best it is reminiscent of the Soviet TV propaganda with a benevolent flair to it."
"Back in the Soviet union we used to have this popular TV program by Anatoly Kashpirovsky where he was hypnotizing the whole country through TV. You could see people falling into trance, sleepwalking, raising their hands when Kashpirowski told them to...
Kashpirovsky had this heavy gaze and used to count slowly and tell people that "everything is good", "your headache is gone", "you feel light and happy"... Imagine all this was happening at the end of 80s, when the Soviet union was collapsing and some people didn't have much to eat. The best of escapist TV ever!
Basically, he started each session counting from 1 to 33 and then telling the audience how they are feeling. Something like "the head is light", "your mood is great", "you started to sleep well", "you stopped stuttering", etc.
Staring into the screen with quite an austere look in his eyes, he was using pretty harsh intonation, almost like a mix of a father and an army general. He would normally employ simple cause effect connections "as you're hearing my voice, you will start feeling..." or "as I'm finishing counting, you will have a desire to meet me again..." and so on...
Brainwashing at its best it is reminiscent of the Soviet TV propaganda with a benevolent flair to it.
Wikipedia mentions that Kashpirovsky is originally from Ukraine, worked as a psychotherapist for 25 years, and became famous in 1989 when he was shown to remove pain from two patients, who have just undergone a surgery. He then had his own TV show and gained notoriety before becoming a Duma (parlament) deputy in 1993 and moving to the USA in 1995. Kashpirowski is also a champion in weight-lifting and his grand-daughter (who lives in the USA now) used to be a champion in karate."
http://waytorussia.net/blog/post-russianhypnotistkashpirovsky-20080606/
http://waytorussia.net/blog/post-russianhypnotistkashpirovsky-20080606/
8 April 2015 21:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
One more:
Чей-то голос пел мне в тишине
О бренности несыгранных ролей.
Я сегодня рухнул в рыхлый снег,
Я сегодня умер на войне
за знамёна наших королей.
http://7songs.ru/text/affinazh_sodom-i-gomorra (VIDEO)
Помнишь, я бежал к тебе по льду
и ловил рукой свои ветра?..
Знаешь, нынче пасмурно в аду,
все кричат победное «ура!»
Знаешь, как и много лет назад,
Слышу голос твой с седых вершин.
Ты мне, как и прежде, напиши,
Что в Содоме снова снегопад,
Что в Гоморре снова льют дожди,
Что в Гоморре снова льют дожди…
Знаешь, я по-прежнему бегу,
Только часто вижу вдалеке –
Девочка замёрзла на снегу
С георгином в беленькой руке,
С героином в беленькой руке…
Чей-то голос пел мне в тишине
О бренности несыгранных ролей.
Я сегодня рухнул в рыхлый снег,
Я сегодня умер на войне
За знамёна наших королей…
http://vk.com/video7541199_170070817?hash=658d00f383ea4a3f
Чей-то голос пел мне в тишине
О бренности несыгранных ролей.
Я сегодня рухнул в рыхлый снег,
Я сегодня умер на войне
за знамёна наших королей.
http://7songs.ru/text/affinazh_sodom-i-gomorra (VIDEO)
Помнишь, я бежал к тебе по льду
и ловил рукой свои ветра?..
Знаешь, нынче пасмурно в аду,
все кричат победное «ура!»
Знаешь, как и много лет назад,
Слышу голос твой с седых вершин.
Ты мне, как и прежде, напиши,
Что в Содоме снова снегопад,
Что в Гоморре снова льют дожди,
Что в Гоморре снова льют дожди…
Знаешь, я по-прежнему бегу,
Только часто вижу вдалеке –
Девочка замёрзла на снегу
С георгином в беленькой руке,
С героином в беленькой руке…
Чей-то голос пел мне в тишине
О бренности несыгранных ролей.
Я сегодня рухнул в рыхлый снег,
Я сегодня умер на войне
За знамёна наших королей…
http://vk.com/video7541199_170070817?hash=658d00f383ea4a3f
http://7songs.ru/text/affinazh_sodom-i-gomorra
8 April 2015 19:04
Margus Meigo commented on Weldon Butch Davis's post.
same reason that capitalism does not work
7 April 2015 23:15
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Masing's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Ja miks nad seda teevad? Ja milleks see neile kasulikum on kui see, et me kõik rahus head tervislikku toitu saaks süüa ja aitaks neil niisama rikkad olla, ilma selleta?7 April 2015 23:15
Margus Meigo commented on Keegi ei tohi kannatada's link.
Tegelikult peab IGAL ajal ütlema EI alkoholile
Üli raske on välja mõelda ühtegi juhust kus alkohol oleks ainuõigeim lahendus
Kindlasti on kasulikum muid aineid ja taimi kasutada mis on loodud inimeste abistamiseks, mitte aga aine mis on sõjaväe ja prja süsteemi lemmik kasutuses
Üli raske on välja mõelda ühtegi juhust kus alkohol oleks ainuõigeim lahendus
Kindlasti on kasulikum muid aineid ja taimi kasutada mis on loodud inimeste abistamiseks, mitte aga aine mis on sõjaväe ja prja süsteemi lemmik kasutuses
7 April 2015 22:18
Margus Meigo commented on Ingrid Peek's post.
Thats only way to begin! :D
7 April 2015 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Põles ära juba v?
7 April 2015 19:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tnx Phaedra : )
7 April 2015 19:18
Margus Meigo commented on Kallis Kiisu Miisu's post.
küll sul on ikka lõbustused
7 April 2015 18:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kanepiseemnete turg
Ava lehelt saab aruvuti appi ka, see weebi appi link. Mobiilis ja arvutis toimib, venku häkerite toode7 April 2015 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
Group: Dimensioonid
They make female to small and to "equal" in there.. male is one small corner, expression of female universes, and they make it look like they almost equal7 April 2015 16:10
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
Group: Dimensioonid
TOo Greek7 April 2015 16:09
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
Group: Dimensioonid
what is wrong with people.. "10 days you see free"
Who in a right mind, would ask money for anything that is beneficial for human kind, that would not cost them anything to give away for free..
so they rather limit.. but not show free in Youtube ?7 April 2015 16:09
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's photo.
on ikka bling blingid :D
7 April 2015 15:09
Margus Meigo commented on Ed Smith's post.
Group: Extraterrestrial Cultural Center
Proverbs 8:27..31 ....
Old Testamenth... last sentence... smiles smiles smiles.. : )7 April 2015 12:46
Margus Meigo commented on Ed Smith's post.
Group: Extraterrestrial Cultural Center
"hope to make contact" lol
L O L
Whatabout just taking PLANTS that are made for it and BE ON CONTACT You silly rabbits, contact has been around us all along,
.. to make a contact... you silly retards, with this ind of "game" only dark ones will play and u will make "a contact" with ur future enslavement higher orders that have been preparing for that in here, if you not careful.. but hey...
this their "savior species" will know EXACTLY what to say and how to fit in to brain and intelligence of current upper class.. as they made it..
ohh. .wait.. what about bible? Well.. there is surprises to the end of times in this so called book, actually outer time line technology , we stand by it and Jew, real one, stand by it and old earth and Siberian and natives from all Americas and Asia will stand by it to Aborigines and Africans, and we will un plug, truly, your electricity, if the machine gos to far. seriously.
Rather we kill great amount of our own by taking away inside them the electricity then let them all be enslaved
Lamuria, here we come, with love from , Estonia
Armastusega7 April 2015 12:45
Margus Meigo commented on Ricardo Roehe's post.
Group: Extraterrestrial Cultural Center
less then few hundred miles from my village is our country oldest settlement, about 10 000 years old.. our nature calendar is also.. about 10 228 today i htink..7 April 2015 12:39
Margus Meigo commented on Ricardo Roehe's post.
Group: Extraterrestrial Cultural Center
entire our capital city was covered wit ha red glow yesterday and NATO fighter jets that has newer fly before on our land like that, at least 6 of them fly over my house in country side , few today as well
there was digital TV outages and internet outages at same time on different providers.. so what... we know what comes and we can handle as we have handled all the other attempts.
Estonia Giants will have to bring up bits of nature again and teach this growing AI that... they must obey to a Women and Creator ..7 April 2015 12:38
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: Extraterrestrial Cultural Center
ya yah
we had it on back yard, coming down with my family member "dead" father and some other beings, told us not to Smoke cigarettes and some other things... so if they see "something" on mars.. this is little interesting trully7 April 2015 12:35
Margus Meigo commented on Enit Arusoo's link.
Wau! Wau! : ))
7 April 2015 11:37
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saara Vatmann's post.
näe ja Jehovadel ka oma sõna asja osas muidugi:
http://www.jw.org/et/piibli-%C3%B5petused/k%C3%BCsimused/piibel-lihav%C3%B5ttep%C3%BChadest/
sutsu kidakeelne see kokkuvõte neil, soovitasin natuke täiendada
http://www.jw.org/et/piibli-%C3%B5petused/k%C3%BCsimused/piibel-lihav%C3%B5ttep%C3%BChadest/
sutsu kidakeelne see kokkuvõte neil, soovitasin natuke täiendada
http://www.jw.org/et/piibli-%C3%B5petused/k%C3%BCsimused/piibel-lihav%C3%B5ttep%C3%BChadest/
7 April 2015 10:21
Margus Meigo commented on Kohila Pikk's post.
Group: Punk pole punane
Ise pole veel bandiitegi välja saanud ja juba räägib keelustamisest.
Kuid ... kuid see hea asja algus!
Julge peale algus on pool võitu (pool võitu muidugi.. mis võit see ka on.. )7 April 2015 10:10
Margus Meigo commented on Kristina Argel's post.
:D
7 April 2015 08:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ning meie külas sõidab 7 autot päevas, kui on tihe päev ja seda ka pool kilomeetrit majast eemal
Kuid jah, saame aru, siin valikuid oleks raske teha kuid emaste kasside inimeste poolt retsimine, et nad ei saaks enam emased olla .. .seda me ka ei toeta..
Looduses muidu nii, et isane kass pidi üleliigse maha murdma kui emane ära on, vot ei tea.. inimene looduse nii sassi ajanud.. ja nüüd oma hingele mitu surma pattu oleme saanud nii kasside lõikumise, kiibistamise kui ka kassipoegade uputamisega. ...kuid seni kuni neil silmad kinni on.. vist veel "On lubatud"
Kuid jah, saame aru, siin valikuid oleks raske teha kuid emaste kasside inimeste poolt retsimine, et nad ei saaks enam emased olla .. .seda me ka ei toeta..
Looduses muidu nii, et isane kass pidi üleliigse maha murdma kui emane ära on, vot ei tea.. inimene looduse nii sassi ajanud.. ja nüüd oma hingele mitu surma pattu oleme saanud nii kasside lõikumise, kiibistamise kui ka kassipoegade uputamisega. ...kuid seni kuni neil silmad kinni on.. vist veel "On lubatud"
6 April 2015 17:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
xD (Y)
Yeah... will see what Uku thinks about that :D
Yeah... will see what Uku thinks about that :D
6 April 2015 16:53
Margus Meigo commented on Nur Natasya's photo.
to much technology and to little of a women :D
6 April 2015 16:02
Margus Meigo commented on Sami Salem's post.
True, for Bible
6 April 2015 07:25
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Estrada's link.
(it is easy for spirits to travel, using nice looking girls, to some business man .. or politician.. if some people not able to keep even basic 10 laws ... )
6 April 2015 07:22
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Estrada's link.
It is mixed bad of ... of-course marriage is between the human kinds and for the reason to evolve our species, for all other dimensional marriage there should be no regulation as they are outside the borders of human world. They should newer be accepted as legitimate marriage, as this body one took for them self is not just Your own personal thing but it has usage laws.
If we do not respect-that then spirit possessed body's, whose free will is taken away by Beings from other worlds (and walk in women or human body here) can start to demand all kind of things that will make human life below slavery as it is now (what is now IS the result as these things was practiced, so the ones who imagined, that it is only their own temple .. put their fingers to places they did not know with out God governance and in return others more matured world beings who have way more advanced criminals then we can imagine took advantage of this, ignorant dear body's here, and once they are inside human minds and body fields,,, they can travel by sexual contact MOST easy to next host.. in to layers of society that have most power and who try to keep them self pure from all kind of "witchy" things. )
if we keep it up, and mess up human species in all levels as old times, then there would be no reason why entire species should not be reseted again... but as we not computers mainly, it is not so easy and cold, it takes a lot of real pain and effort and sadness to do it,. With a big losses.
But some of the Wicca are like communist possessed anarchists, not really seeing through the came who is using who for what, and for how long. And by that, making bad name, and impossible for real Word followers to make changes that will open doors , good , to all the ones, not just the ones who are guarded by dark spirits, in small gardens. To be used for infiltration of human species.
Sorry girls, You know sleeping with a beast You in the end will not win it, the game is finished before end.
If we do not respect-that then spirit possessed body's, whose free will is taken away by Beings from other worlds (and walk in women or human body here) can start to demand all kind of things that will make human life below slavery as it is now (what is now IS the result as these things was practiced, so the ones who imagined, that it is only their own temple .. put their fingers to places they did not know with out God governance and in return others more matured world beings who have way more advanced criminals then we can imagine took advantage of this, ignorant dear body's here, and once they are inside human minds and body fields,,, they can travel by sexual contact MOST easy to next host.. in to layers of society that have most power and who try to keep them self pure from all kind of "witchy" things. )
if we keep it up, and mess up human species in all levels as old times, then there would be no reason why entire species should not be reseted again... but as we not computers mainly, it is not so easy and cold, it takes a lot of real pain and effort and sadness to do it,. With a big losses.
But some of the Wicca are like communist possessed anarchists, not really seeing through the came who is using who for what, and for how long. And by that, making bad name, and impossible for real Word followers to make changes that will open doors , good , to all the ones, not just the ones who are guarded by dark spirits, in small gardens. To be used for infiltration of human species.
Sorry girls, You know sleeping with a beast You in the end will not win it, the game is finished before end.
6 April 2015 07:21
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Estrada's link.
So is that good ?
6 April 2015 07:07
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Estrada's link.
If people would realize on truth and point of religion, there would be not needed no "religious freedom" where is allowed groups of beliefs who operate in mentally broken minds that are in constant fight with nature
6 April 2015 07:07
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Estrada's photo.
how that helps to grow potatoes
6 April 2015 07:03
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Estrada's link.
Yes because "this is WHY we get after them.. "
besides, its dangerous for normal people from our perspective as it is proven by numerous studies. Dear people, me and you pay our hard earned Tax money to build a products and life for our children that would minimize the risk of penial gland usage and prevent intelligent thoughts related to health, and then some hipsters and nature people just start promoting plants that grow new grain cells and make us calm by realization of healthy living that in return contributes to rapid growth of general intelligence that we try to prevent in last few millennials, we just can not stand by and let that happen"
But..
"..no Buts, as you know, when people get to smart we must start to eliminate them in bulk with famine and other extreme ways if needed, to prevent of disaster for other spirit worlds who have enjoined soul orgies and looting here and whit who we have timeless contracts..."
"... as next thingyou know we might have god fearing , proper spiritual self governing species in here and all the underworld inter stellar human and life trafficking will stop.. is that what you want? "
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1253627/
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=8930251
besides, its dangerous for normal people from our perspective as it is proven by numerous studies. Dear people, me and you pay our hard earned Tax money to build a products and life for our children that would minimize the risk of penial gland usage and prevent intelligent thoughts related to health, and then some hipsters and nature people just start promoting plants that grow new grain cells and make us calm by realization of healthy living that in return contributes to rapid growth of general intelligence that we try to prevent in last few millennials, we just can not stand by and let that happen"
But..
"..no Buts, as you know, when people get to smart we must start to eliminate them in bulk with famine and other extreme ways if needed, to prevent of disaster for other spirit worlds who have enjoined soul orgies and looting here and whit who we have timeless contracts..."
"... as next thingyou know we might have god fearing , proper spiritual self governing species in here and all the underworld inter stellar human and life trafficking will stop.. is that what you want? "
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1253627/
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=8930251
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1253627/
6 April 2015 07:02
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Estrada's link.
one demon possessed society with their daily sacrifices ,
6 April 2015 06:36
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saara Vatmann's post.
ÕIGE usu järgi see munade asi aga alles 12 Aprillil tuleb (ja järgmine aasta 1. Mail ).
See munade pühade tarvis muidu hea teada oleks ka Paasapühasi (Passover) kes ka talle ohverdasid.. selle algusaeg rohkem kui 3300 aastat tagasi, kestab
3st aprillist kuni 10-11 aprillini - ehk veel kestab:)
(ja peale selle algust on 40 päeva pikkune Shavuot 23-26 mai paiku) kuid kuna see kõik ka Juutidel põllumajandusega seotud otseselt lisaks Elu Juhiste inimestele andmisele siis see samamoodi korda läheb ka maausu ja muude siin enne elanutega.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavuot
See munade pühade tarvis muidu hea teada oleks ka Paasapühasi (Passover) kes ka talle ohverdasid.. selle algusaeg rohkem kui 3300 aastat tagasi, kestab
3st aprillist kuni 10-11 aprillini - ehk veel kestab:)
(ja peale selle algust on 40 päeva pikkune Shavuot 23-26 mai paiku) kuid kuna see kõik ka Juutidel põllumajandusega seotud otseselt lisaks Elu Juhiste inimestele andmisele siis see samamoodi korda läheb ka maausu ja muude siin enne elanutega.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavuot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavuot
6 April 2015 06:31
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saara Vatmann's post.
Ene Hiob, : Ning lisaks jessase osas, see veel ka väga väga paha päev, midagi pidustada siin küll ei ole kui asja tõsidust vaadata. Ise tunnen, et Inimesed peaksid ikka välja arenema igasugusest ohverdamise lukust mis meie arengut tagasi hoiab ning loomulikult arenema hakkama, ilma ohvriteta.
Kuid munastest nii palju veel, et munatööstus nüüd märgatavas osas Taanlaste käes pidid olema millegi pärast.
Kuid munastest nii palju veel, et munatööstus nüüd märgatavas osas Taanlaste käes pidid olema millegi pärast.
6 April 2015 06:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ah mis siin ikka.. pange toores materail ka üles
5 April 2015 00:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lühikokkuvõtte + Allan Watts psychedelics videod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN-vMMpja30 (mitte kõigega enam pole nõus sest aeg arengu arusaamas edasi läinud, osad valitsused loodusega .. alati olnud)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN-vMMpja30 (mitte kõigega enam pole nõus sest aeg arengu arusaamas edasi läinud, osad valitsused loodusega .. alati olnud)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN-vMMpja30
4 April 2015 20:43
Margus Meigo commented on Ingrid Peek's post.
kõige lõpus, see joomisega seotud sõnum oli olulisemaid ja kogu selle jutuajamise tähtsaim point.
4 April 2015 17:58
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
siin maal pole midagi aprilli enam, kõike tehakse,
4 April 2015 16:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
seda ammu inimestele ütelnud, ise teeks ka ni3i, et tõstaks pesakasti kuskile loodusesse
4 April 2015 13:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See oleks jah kõige õigem kui nad looduses ise saaks reguleeritud
4 April 2015 13:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.facebook.com/Jesus and Bad Friday rather than Good Friday
https://www.facebook.com/
4 April 2015 03:46
Margus Meigo commented on Humberto Durán's post.
Retro version of anonymous
4 April 2015 03:12
Margus Meigo commented on Humberto Durán's post.
they make it look so noble
4 April 2015 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.critterbabies.com/wp-content/gallery/kittens/803864926_1375572583.jpg
http://www.critterbabies.com/wp-content/gallery/kittens/803864926_1375572583.jpg
4 April 2015 02:58
Margus Meigo commented on Zandra Arguelles's post.
Thats good : )
4 April 2015 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on Henn Põlluaas's post.
rohelised olid kõige "ohtlikumad", sest nende asjad mille osas nad julgesid sammu astuda on kogu maakera mastaabis olulised ning kogu inimkonna suuna osas.
Need taimed ja lahendused mis roheliste keskelt võrsuma hkkab, muudab totaalselt kogu riigi korraldust selliselt, et päris võimu saavad päris inimesed ja päris targad kes on väärtustega mis kestavad ja on kestnud aasta tuhandeid.
Ehk otseselt enda eest vastutuse võtmine ning vaimu maailmaga kontakti astumine. Lisaks, Sõltuvuste eemaldamine mis tähelepanu hajutamiseks inimesteni toodud.
see kommentaar kõlab rahmimisena praegu, kuid ei ole sõnu et midagi nii suurt ja olulist oskaks mahutada praegu siia (võttes arvesse, arusaamatusi nende teemade osas mis lugejal saab olla). Tegu oli ühe kristlikuma teoga, sest nad OTSE vaimumaailma avamise suunas läksid mille eest kellegil kunagi lõpuks pääsu naguinii pole, väga radikaalne.
Ning kombineerisid selle otsedemokraatiaga mis on üli lihtsalt lahendatav tänapäeva tehnika juures (kuid sellest on ainult kasu kui inimesed otse looduse suunaga sovivad ühendust, ehk LOoja ehk õige suunaga).
(ehk mõtlemine vähemalt: Miks me siin planeedil oleme ja mida kuidas tegema peaksime, ning mis peale seda tuleb - meil). Elementaarsed asjad. Mis peaks kõigil teada olema.
Kuid ju rohelistel ka need "nõuandjad" erakonna sees, kes kogu selle sõnumi suutsid olematuna hoida. Ning kaasa aidata täielikule meedia pimedusele
Me räägime teadustest ja tarkustest, mis mitmeid tuhandeid aastaid vanad ja multi dimensionaalsed, mille üks väike osa on väärt rohkem kui enamuste ülikoolide tipp lektorid, ilma liialduseta.
Sest ega siis selle ühe taimega ei piirduta või ainult riigi struktuuri täieliku muutmisega (kergelt, odavalt, sujuvalt, praeguste vahenditega selliselt, et jääb toimima välismaailmaga kes hiljem meie järgi tegema hakkab).
Kuid küll me selle kõik veel teoks saame aegsasti ... kuigi kahju, et edukast Esimesest rongist suudeti Eesti maha jätta.. kuid eks seda oli vaja siis kellegil.
(kuid need kommentaarid, tunduvad, et ei ole võimalk aru saada enne seda kui ollakse "teemas sees", see on rohkem kui uue kultuuri ja keele avastamine, see on kogu uus inimkeha ja meelte toimimis viis millest meid juba väga ammusest ajast lahutatud on, mida surte sõdadega salajas on hoitud nii tugevasti, et sellest otseselt selliselt kunagi ei räägita..
kui kellegil on päris soov ja tahtmine, proovida arusaada mu eeposest, sellest mis minusuguste silmade läbi toimub ja mis toimuma peaks, same arutada sõnumites, kuid ainult kui Sul päriselt on soov nõustuda järjest asjadega mida ütlen, muidu lihtsalt aja kulu üle liia )
--
lisa vihje veel siin, miks vaja oleks teatud teemade osas TÄIELIKU vaikust, sest piisab kui teatud uudis ainult ÜE korra üle eesti avalikult teleris on... ja siis kui see midagi täiesti uut... sellest jäädakse rääkima ja asutakse uurima..
ning neile küsimustele ei ole õpetatud praegused õpetajad ausalt vastama
Vihje,
"The hippocampal dentate gyrus in the adult mammalian brain contains neural stem/progenitor cells (NS/PCs) capable of generating new neurons, i.e., neurogenesis. Most drugs of abuse examined to date decrease adult hippocampal neurogenesis, but the effects of cannabis (marijuana or cannabinoids) on hippocampal neurogenesis remain unknown. "
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1253627
- kõige suurem vaev mis riikidel üle maa praegu on, on meeltiada noori neid taimi valesti kasutama, nii valesti kui võimalik ja siis anda kogemsute kohta nii valesi arusaame kui fantaasia lubab, et ei saadaks teada mis tegelikult ajus toimub ja meeltes, taoliste asjadega kokku puutudes. Sest vastused, võimalikud vastused, ehmataks ka tugevamad paganaid näost kriitvalgeks
Need taimed ja lahendused mis roheliste keskelt võrsuma hkkab, muudab totaalselt kogu riigi korraldust selliselt, et päris võimu saavad päris inimesed ja päris targad kes on väärtustega mis kestavad ja on kestnud aasta tuhandeid.
Ehk otseselt enda eest vastutuse võtmine ning vaimu maailmaga kontakti astumine. Lisaks, Sõltuvuste eemaldamine mis tähelepanu hajutamiseks inimesteni toodud.
see kommentaar kõlab rahmimisena praegu, kuid ei ole sõnu et midagi nii suurt ja olulist oskaks mahutada praegu siia (võttes arvesse, arusaamatusi nende teemade osas mis lugejal saab olla). Tegu oli ühe kristlikuma teoga, sest nad OTSE vaimumaailma avamise suunas läksid mille eest kellegil kunagi lõpuks pääsu naguinii pole, väga radikaalne.
Ning kombineerisid selle otsedemokraatiaga mis on üli lihtsalt lahendatav tänapäeva tehnika juures (kuid sellest on ainult kasu kui inimesed otse looduse suunaga sovivad ühendust, ehk LOoja ehk õige suunaga).
(ehk mõtlemine vähemalt: Miks me siin planeedil oleme ja mida kuidas tegema peaksime, ning mis peale seda tuleb - meil). Elementaarsed asjad. Mis peaks kõigil teada olema.
Kuid ju rohelistel ka need "nõuandjad" erakonna sees, kes kogu selle sõnumi suutsid olematuna hoida. Ning kaasa aidata täielikule meedia pimedusele
Me räägime teadustest ja tarkustest, mis mitmeid tuhandeid aastaid vanad ja multi dimensionaalsed, mille üks väike osa on väärt rohkem kui enamuste ülikoolide tipp lektorid, ilma liialduseta.
Sest ega siis selle ühe taimega ei piirduta või ainult riigi struktuuri täieliku muutmisega (kergelt, odavalt, sujuvalt, praeguste vahenditega selliselt, et jääb toimima välismaailmaga kes hiljem meie järgi tegema hakkab).
Kuid küll me selle kõik veel teoks saame aegsasti ... kuigi kahju, et edukast Esimesest rongist suudeti Eesti maha jätta.. kuid eks seda oli vaja siis kellegil.
(kuid need kommentaarid, tunduvad, et ei ole võimalk aru saada enne seda kui ollakse "teemas sees", see on rohkem kui uue kultuuri ja keele avastamine, see on kogu uus inimkeha ja meelte toimimis viis millest meid juba väga ammusest ajast lahutatud on, mida surte sõdadega salajas on hoitud nii tugevasti, et sellest otseselt selliselt kunagi ei räägita..
kui kellegil on päris soov ja tahtmine, proovida arusaada mu eeposest, sellest mis minusuguste silmade läbi toimub ja mis toimuma peaks, same arutada sõnumites, kuid ainult kui Sul päriselt on soov nõustuda järjest asjadega mida ütlen, muidu lihtsalt aja kulu üle liia )
--
lisa vihje veel siin, miks vaja oleks teatud teemade osas TÄIELIKU vaikust, sest piisab kui teatud uudis ainult ÜE korra üle eesti avalikult teleris on... ja siis kui see midagi täiesti uut... sellest jäädakse rääkima ja asutakse uurima..
ning neile küsimustele ei ole õpetatud praegused õpetajad ausalt vastama
Vihje,
"The hippocampal dentate gyrus in the adult mammalian brain contains neural stem/progenitor cells (NS/PCs) capable of generating new neurons, i.e., neurogenesis. Most drugs of abuse examined to date decrease adult hippocampal neurogenesis, but the effects of cannabis (marijuana or cannabinoids) on hippocampal neurogenesis remain unknown. "
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1253627
- kõige suurem vaev mis riikidel üle maa praegu on, on meeltiada noori neid taimi valesti kasutama, nii valesti kui võimalik ja siis anda kogemsute kohta nii valesi arusaame kui fantaasia lubab, et ei saadaks teada mis tegelikult ajus toimub ja meeltes, taoliste asjadega kokku puutudes. Sest vastused, võimalikud vastused, ehmataks ka tugevamad paganaid näost kriitvalgeks
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1253627
3 April 2015 15:01
Margus Meigo commented on Henn Põlluaas's post.
EKRE on KASULIK, mitte ohtlik, ta on kasulik, Keskerakonnale kõige enam riigi õõnestamiseks, sest see on rahvuslik erakond mille saates oma enda riigi vastu saab tekitada kõige potensiaalsema olukorra kus vasak partei saab praeguste pool siniste maha varisedes võimule tulla, lõplikult
3 April 2015 14:51
Margus Meigo commented on Ingrid Freitag's post.
But because Katy accepted him to a life for some period, i will have more respect for a dude. But he still advertises a Tie
so thats just makes me sad..
The entire life is all about, only about a women here, no other mission really.. and as low You realize She is ... this is where You go.. as high You realize She is.. this is from where You go upward..
and there is whole dimensions difference between realizing spiritual as basic fundamental building block and imagining we just random jumping molecules
so thats just makes me sad..
The entire life is all about, only about a women here, no other mission really.. and as low You realize She is ... this is where You go.. as high You realize She is.. this is from where You go upward..
and there is whole dimensions difference between realizing spiritual as basic fundamental building block and imagining we just random jumping molecules
3 April 2015 14:47
Margus Meigo commented on Ingrid Freitag's post.
No, everyone needs to hear about Magic Mushrooms and LSD
Peyotte and Iboga,
about truth that bible is smartest technology or makers made for us to travel between the worlds...
not just some word "meditation"
in some fashioned way making it look silly and "edgy"
Peyotte and Iboga,
about truth that bible is smartest technology or makers made for us to travel between the worlds...
not just some word "meditation"
in some fashioned way making it look silly and "edgy"
3 April 2015 14:30
Margus Meigo commented on Henn Põlluaas's post.
osati hullem rünnak oli roheliste vastu, sest nad julgesid kõige radikaalsema plaaniga Eesti riigi osas siiani välja tulla,
Rohelistega tehti sedasi, et neid mitte kuskilt polnud näha ega kuulda. Nagu poleksi olemas, sest meedia ikka AINULT siis räägib kellegist kui seda kelegile vaja on..
Kohalikudes lehtedes siin isegi ei mainitud, et nad valimistel olid (0 häält saanud erakonnad ja üksikkandidaadid mainiti)
Rohelistega tehti sedasi, et neid mitte kuskilt polnud näha ega kuulda. Nagu poleksi olemas, sest meedia ikka AINULT siis räägib kellegist kui seda kelegile vaja on..
Kohalikudes lehtedes siin isegi ei mainitud, et nad valimistel olid (0 häält saanud erakonnad ja üksikkandidaadid mainiti)
3 April 2015 14:27
Margus Meigo commented on Patrick Dorval's photo.
Really nice!
3 April 2015 14:27
Margus Meigo commented on Judith E. Avery's post.
"fine to have one" what ? it is a question of having a human species or not (if we start to REALLY look what its all about)
atheists should have required state mental hospital license to be excused from the insulting silliness they come up with. A atheists medical file, so they would know that an atheism is a mental illness, not something to show off by.
No one is showing off when they have diarrhea, unless they are jackass.
I am serious, it really is mental case
atheists should have required state mental hospital license to be excused from the insulting silliness they come up with. A atheists medical file, so they would know that an atheism is a mental illness, not something to show off by.
No one is showing off when they have diarrhea, unless they are jackass.
I am serious, it really is mental case
3 April 2015 13:42
Margus Meigo commented on Judith E. Avery's post.
So retarded poster that the one who made up that mental fart, their picture and home address should be next to that
3 April 2015 13:37
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
Its one nation under God, no so separate from state... church should actually control the state in a world where sane people would be on sarge. But instead politicians are allowed to play important.
But it is deep unmeasurable bigotry to force church to marry entities that are fundamentally against everything for what church was made.
And it is proper communist fascism to take business freedom away who they can or can not serve.
Its not freaking subway, public transport that someone are allowed to even rise question "are they allowed to choose who to serve"
and if You are a country, you should also be allowed to choose who you provide your state service and who not.
This is how totalitarian slave order with no freedoms is born if everyone is forced to accept everything and be "equal"
sickening
But it is deep unmeasurable bigotry to force church to marry entities that are fundamentally against everything for what church was made.
And it is proper communist fascism to take business freedom away who they can or can not serve.
Its not freaking subway, public transport that someone are allowed to even rise question "are they allowed to choose who to serve"
and if You are a country, you should also be allowed to choose who you provide your state service and who not.
This is how totalitarian slave order with no freedoms is born if everyone is forced to accept everything and be "equal"
sickening
3 April 2015 13:35
Margus Meigo commented on Piret FireFairy Meinberg's post.
Ja kui google oma androidi poes pole vahest asju saadaval mida vaja (sest liika häk programmid vms) siis tsekka neid alternatiiv appide kohtasi: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/android-app-stores/2/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/android-app-stores/2/
3 April 2015 05:34
Margus Meigo commented on Piret FireFairy Meinberg's post.
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/5649-tubemate.html
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/5649-tubemate.html
3 April 2015 05:29
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
peaks küll
3 April 2015 05:18
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
For sure
3 April 2015 02:06
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
PLease, anytime someone got bottles to share for proper good usage (will be used directly for goverment proof) ... take in contact with me
3 April 2015 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Nii lambad meie ühiskonna inimesed ongi... nad ei saa aru millega mängivad, kui nendel vaimudel on MUUD kui head plaanid, siis neil oligi vaja teda saada KINNISESSE asutusse inimestele kellele pole tema ümber oleva energia eest pääsu, et siis igasuguste eri tarkuste ja annetega vaimuinimesed enda armeeks teha... või imada välja neilt need tarkused mida vaja.. kaitsetutelt... ohvritelt.. mida kõike vaimu maailmas teha saab SELLISES kohas kus on suur hulk VÄGA ERIS-KUMMALISTE vaimudega inimesi koos..
lihtsalt ei mahu pähe kus mõistus on3 April 2015 01:50
Margus Meigo commented on Michel Bauwens's post.
Group: P2P Research Clusters
THe messed up part is, that these people under A, or under squat sing, or under communist sing or under ananymous sing in most part... IS actually tools and the power they fight against...
and hey.. but the BRICKs is uniting all of them.. in one nice global fassion.. http://web-history.blogspot.com/2015/03/brics-enlightening-dark-age-putin-china.html
teaserhttp://web-history.blogspot.com/2015/03/brics-enlightening-dark-age-putin-china.html
3 April 2015 00:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Jätkuks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTOs8c4XgEg
Mul on kõik postitused (ees või taga) mõttega, niisama harva teen midagi . )
ja siis ka teen igaks-juhuks,...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTOs8c4XgEg
Mul on kõik postitused (ees või taga) mõttega, niisama harva teen midagi . )
ja siis ka teen igaks-juhuks,...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTOs8c4XgEg
2 April 2015 10:27
Margus Meigo commented on Maarja Hiiekivi's post.
see "pankurite vastutusele võtmine" on arvatvasti lihtsalt järgmine orjastajate BRICK trikk
2 April 2015 10:10
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
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Neid kitsaid väravaid on ka ikka väga suur hulk2 April 2015 10:08
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
Group: Kristlased
mind küll piinab, ja harva kui saan unistada õigest unest, rahus, kui tean, et veel on vaja
kuigi, vist peaks usaldama veel rohkem, et saab korda nagunii (kuid jah.. kas saab)2 April 2015 10:08
Margus Meigo commented on Nana Kojo's post.
I hope the religious law comes faster, by the right religion, ofcourse, the ones that accept magic mushroom is my minimum standard
2 April 2015 09:50
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
Same here, i droped out on 8 as well
2 April 2015 09:48
Margus Meigo commented on Piret FireFairy Meinberg's post.
See on umbes sama kui öelda inimestele "Sa võid joosta läbi roosi põõsa... ise tead"
nu jah, aga lapsed ju ei tea ja need kes ei tea ega aru ei saa, need ka ju ei tea, ... saab veel pahemaid näiteid tuua kus võib inimestele vabaduse anda kui kui neil puudus sellel hekel arusaamine mis on tagajärg, siis puudus neil ka vabadus valida seda mida nad tegelikult soovisid
nu jah, aga lapsed ju ei tea ja need kes ei tea ega aru ei saa, need ka ju ei tea, ... saab veel pahemaid näiteid tuua kus võib inimestele vabaduse anda kui kui neil puudus sellel hekel arusaamine mis on tagajärg, siis puudus neil ka vabadus valida seda mida nad tegelikult soovisid
2 April 2015 09:47
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Õigeim on üks, õigeid on olnud ja tulnud ja tuleb veel.
Peaasi, et ausadja õige suunalised, ega jumala jaoks on kõik religioonid parajad kargud mida terve mõistusega inimestel vaja ei oleks, kes mõistkas.2 April 2015 09:44
Margus Meigo commented on Alari Aus's post.
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See seletab ka probleemi ja lahendused1 April 2015 05:39
Margus Meigo commented on Alari Aus's post.
Group: Kristlased
Just, Maie Murumaa
selles see mure ongi, et Lääne maailmal ONGI oma arvates mingi muu.. see suur murekoht.. sest selles tabelis on kuidas Greeka ehk Lääne maailma inimesed mõtlevad, ehk see mõttemaailm mis on enamuses meedias, toodetes ja koolisüsteemides.
See maailm kes tahab selle teise mõtte maailma lõplikult eemaldada ning kasvatab selles vaimus ka lapsed üles
v1 April 2015 05:38
Margus Meigo commented on Mati Murumaa's post.
Group: Kristlased
tahaks ka selle pilli uuesti leida... millest ilma jäin.. hooletuse pärast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_pQpRnGVu4s#t=57https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_pQpRnGVu4s#t=57
1 April 2015 04:33
Margus Meigo commented on Alari Aus's post.
Group: Kristlased
Rivo Rajandu: Sinu osas aga tuli südamele mõte, et vaja veel postitada (eraldi just Sinu postituse pärast mis silma jäi) , et ka Sina mõtled hästi kui sedasi mõtled, jätka ja integreeri.
Alguses millegi pärast arvasin, et keegi naine seda ütles.. kui vaatasin, et Rivo hoopis.. nu aga selle märke siin ikka maha jätma pean millegi osas (et kui arvad, Jeesusest nii nagu mõtled, et see on ka OK)1 April 2015 04:31
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Vooglaid's post.
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Muidugi mina ise ka endaga alati ei nõustu..
kuid samale arusaamale soovin ikka jõuda.1 April 2015 01:51
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Vooglaid's post.
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senikaua kui te minuga nõustute on teil õigus1 April 2015 01:49
Margus Meigo commented on Alari Aus's post.
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" Lääne " inimesed muidugi suures osas arvavad, et inimeste mõtlemine, aju ja soovid ongi ainult nende skeemi järgi toimivad :D
ja siis oma enda mõtte maailma järgi panevad lahtrisse välja mõeldud oletuslike uskumustega usklike... pool freudilikult ja kes need Martin Lutheri järglastest usu seletajad olid, kes selgitasid "mida usuline mõtlemine tähendab" oma arust,
olles ise.. usu vastase mõttemaailma ohvrid1 April 2015 01:42
Margus Meigo commented on Alari Aus's post.
Group: Kristlased
Muidugi tegelikult mul oleks tore, kui oleks inimesi, kes päriselt sellega sooviks tööd teha, et see loetavaks ja korralikuks saada.. veel täiendada... olulisemad asjad algusesse panna ja need mis topelt... need eemaldada (ja puuduvatele vasted panna)
ja siis lisa mõtte lõigud (nagu Zen aju käsitlus jms) veel omakorda samade küsimuste osas lisada... siis saame näha mis moodi mis osa maailmast mõtleb ja kuidas, mis tasemel kellegagi suhelda, läbi mille ja kelle suunas.
Loodan, et seda relva ikka heaks kasutatakse, sest kui aru saate mis asi see on ja milleks kasutada saab, siis mõistate isegi...1 April 2015 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on Alari Aus's post.
Group: Kristlased
Rahu Rahu. ärge alluge provokatsioonidele.. nagu me kallis valitsus õpetas.
Vaadake seda tabelit mis ma rooma-greeka juudi-pärisuklike suhtes tegin
st tabeli alget pigem: ... mõned päris head punktid selles.. :
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pnuy1IMjLIYjZhCyWeZDOpkUpwALl1-5WNLaJioqj3M/edit
Sellest on näha, et need kes meie süsteemi inimese tasemel siin oma arust ajavad, on kogu mõtte tasemelt hoopis muu maailma mõtlemisega kui Looja
Kogu meie kooli süsteem mõtleb ja kogu enamus uus kiriku süsteemist mõtleb PIIBLI VASTASELT ... ja siis nähakse suurt vaeva uskumiseks.
Oluline on siinkohal aru saada keda kellekski kasutada ja aru saada, et kõik usklikud lõpuks on ikka "meie mehed" isegi kui nad vales reas... kuid kui nad selle sisemuses edasi jätkavad õiges suunas.. sis nad täpselt seda kogu elu tegid mida vaja oli
see saab väga peen töö olema kuid me saame sellega hakkama. Sest pole olemas strateegiat mis saaks olla üle sellest kes on kõik.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pnuy1IMjLIYjZhCyWeZDOpkUpwALl1-5WNLaJioqj3M/edit
1 April 2015 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on Alari Aus's post.
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Roomlased
Greeklased õigemini... kuid samamoodi enne lammutati ka Sumerite ja muude maade üles ehitatud korrad niipalju kui vaadanud olen (et meelitati või sunniti liituma ja siis suruti naine alla..)... kuid kuna asi tundub, et toimub paljudes muudes kohtades ajast ees ja taga, mitut pidi , lisaks sellele maailmale.. siis ega me siin inimese mõistusega näppu suunata ei saa1 April 2015 01:26
Margus Meigo commented on Alari Aus's post.
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Enne kui hakkame arutama, et Looja looming, Jeesus on üks ja see sama võiks ka meeles olla, et Jeesus ütles, et Sina ja Tema on üks ja see sama.. peale leiva süües midagi taolist oli kirjas.. ja veel mõnes kohas... see tavaline hippi teadvus, et üks armastusja mina olen sina,
Sellise teadvuse ma saan looduse abiga Sinus ka tekitada, see pole üli raske vaid päris tavapärane seisund kus Sa enam enda ja teise inimese vahel vahet ei tee.. kuigi see suht ehmatav ja veider see tunne .. ja ma sellest läbi astuda pole julgenud viimased korrad kuna ei tea kas lubatud , alati selle tunde ära peatanud... ,1 April 2015 01:14
Margus Meigo commented on Alari Aus's post.
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See on suurema osa maailma usklikute arvates sedasi, et Jeesus ja Looja ei ole sama võrdväärsed1 April 2015 01:10
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Kristlased
Sa ju tead ise väga hästi, et sa oma mehe jaoks ilma mingi veidruseta teeksid sama, kui sa päriselt armastad oma meest?
Kuid kas oleks Sul sobilik külastava kuninga jaoks midagi sellist teha? Isegi kui ta universumi kunn? Milleks.. rätik on praktilisem.. Looja on praktiline.. kõik muu mis on veider on veider..31 March 2015 22:58
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ma tean, mõtlen siin liialt maiselt, kuid kujuta ette.. kui sa oled kõrgeim kõrgeimatest ja siis lased ennast sedasi ümardada.. kas see suts veider pole ? Mis armastus see on mehepoolt tagasi naise suunas?
Kui Jeesus oli mehe moodi mees.
Ja seda, et ta on Looja pole mõtet rääkida, sest see ilmselge, et ei saanud ta ise iseseisvalt olla ega omada looja väge ega võimu, kaugel sellest.
Ta oluline tööriist, ja ... sellist ...
ainuke asi mida sellest võib õppida, et see naistele õpetus, kuidas elementaarses armastuses olla mehe suhtes, kuid mees ise.. ma kohe ei leia õigeid sõnu selle selgitamiseks, pole neid veel neid mulle, ... et miks SEE lõik juustega pesust ja jalgade suudlusest inimeste silmis jääb valesti kõlama31 March 2015 22:56
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Kristlased
Muidugi pead Nomaad, neid ihaseid mänge mida arvasid, et inimene on lubatud tegema enne :p
Kuid tõsi ta on, see lugu tehakse ja lükatakse vastikult kõrgele, jättes deemoni kummardajatele mulje, et neid sedasi ümardama peab.
Et siis on austus ja armastus.
Esiteks mõtelge loogiliselt, Juustega ei saa asjalikult jalgu kuivata.
Need kirjakohad on ... midagi päris õige pole nende asjade juures igatahes.
Ehk oli Jeesus tol hetkel liiga uhkust täis tol hetkel ja ta veel sai selle eest karistada.. ..
Ma siin süüd naisele ei pane, sest selline siirus naises on tavaline iga mehe vastu keda ta armastab, see täiesti elementaarne, ei midagi enne kuulmatut. Ka iga armastav mees oma naise jaoks teeb seda.
Kuid siin sellises lõigus on see kuidagi veidralt pandud.. seda oleks sellel naisel ainult õigus siis teha olnud, kui See tema kaasa on.. selline käitumine, kui ma selles majas oleks, oleks kohe meele nelja silma all paar reeglit selgeks teinud kuidas meil siin maal austus käib.
Mingid muud kohad ka selles raamatus olid, kus ta ülearu ninakas ja enast täis ol.. leian need kohad veel ülesse31 March 2015 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on Alari Aus's post.
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Lihtsalt kristusesse uskunu ilma tegudeta ei saa olla kedagi veel päästnud
(ehk siis jätkates vastupidiste tegude tegemist südames, tajuta, et Looja siin ja praegu, ja meie oleme temast eemal oma usu väiksuse tõttu.. ja saame iga hetk temas olla, kui aru saame, et tema õuel oleme.. õuel kus lubame igasugustel lärmata... selle asemel, et võtta ja hakata korda ja puhtaks tegema.. et oleks vanemate ilmsi tuleku ajaks tuba koristatud.. kui meie ei tee.. ja ülbelt loodame, et las teised teevad.. kes siis teeb korda.. meie lasime käest ära, meie teeme ka korda. Kui usume, et me sõber ja teadmised on Loojast... siis mida me ennast tagasi hoiame?)31 March 2015 22:42
Margus Meigo commented on Alari Aus's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ega jah, juudid enne kuulda ei võta Kristlasi kui nood targaks ei hakka ja Päris Looja poole oma südamed pööranud31 March 2015 22:38
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kuid "taevas" liha sööjaid ei ole, selles saad sa täiesti veendunud olla,
On need olendid, kes taeva ja maa vahel on, keda osad jumalateks peavad..need kes viikingite ees otsas olid ja Roomlastel.. siin..
kuid jah, arengust samm edasi on aru saada, et Inimese jaoks, on lootus antud, et me saame piisavalt aru pühakirjast, et neil on hing nagu meil, neil on veri alati lihaska siis kui see välja valada... ja et armastus saab ainult siis olla, kui sa otseselt, SINU enda sarnast, silmadega, olendit, kes liigub.. enam ei pea mõetuks kes sinust madalam... või kelle elutöö mõte siin planeedil oli ainult see, et sulle maitse elamust anda.
Liha himu tekitab liha himu...
lihtsalt pole võimalik kõrgemates kohtades reisida ja olla lihatoidulisena, ega ka juust ja need asjad ei ole kasuks... ega vist ka muna mitte.
Seda ma tähele pannud ise, et inimestel kellel menüüs on muud toidud, neil kõik on liialt maapealne ja ajutine ja elutu...
ise ka selles alles lõksus, et ei saa värsket toitu süüa ainult nagu me loodud olime, enne seda kui kannibalideks hakkasid me liigi inim kujutiste esiisad .. et neile ja nende kaitseks osad loomad ohverdati...
lootes, et ajaga tunnetus ja tarkus kasvab.. kuid see on nagu vapiirilisus.. vere maitse suus siis raske seda vaimu endast välja saada.
Kuigi see igasuguse teaduse pidi teada, et taimedest saab kõik lihtsamini, paremini ja puhtamini kätte.
Ainuke asi mida usun, et teatud hetkedel, rituaalidel millegi paranduseks, mingi muu vaimumaailma tunnetuseks, sügavala sukeldumiseks ja muudeks töödeks on loodud see võimalus, et süüa muid toite. et toit on nagu tehnoloogia, mida peaks valima.. mille jaoks.. seega kui sööd liha, siis mõtle.. mida inimesed saavad lihast mida on Sul vaja teha mida Sa taimedest ei saaks ? Kas oli vaja see teiste laste ema ära tappa selleks ?
Või lausa mõrvata? Kas me oleme hundi tarkusega, et teame keda võib murda ja keda mitte?
Kindlasti pole liha söömine sama patt kui homo asi, sest liha söömist VÕIB teoreetiliselt taluda ja kasutada mingite mustade ajutiselt vaja olevate rituaalide jaoks, et siis selle surnud looma vaimu kaudu kes sinus on (mis sa arvad kes Sinu sees on.. ainult tühjad molekulid v?) ... et selle kaudu minna kuskile ja teha midagi mida loojal vaja... Kuid jah, veelgi enam.. vist on parem, kui inimene ise suudaks, loomalt elu võtta.. ja ainult siis sööks liha.
Ilma kirjeldatud rituaalita, looma hinge võtmisel.. ei tohiks..
kuna sa looduslik inimene, siis ma arvan, et sa ükskõiksust ega mõnu tapmisest ei tunne.. et ikka südames teise hinge lased minna.. kuid jah, uuri seda rituaali, piibli algusest, mida pead tegema, enne looma elu võtmist... (ilma seleta.. teab ainult ... kes teab.. mida sisse sööme.. mida selle surnu lihaga tehti.. kus ta oli.. ja mida ta tundis.. )31 March 2015 22:36
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
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NOmaad: saan Sul mõtteplaanist aru ja seda suurem osa kommuniste ja orjapidajaid ka nõustuvad, et üleliigne rämps kes ei tooda seda mida nemad toodanguks peavad tuleks maha lükata, lint traktoriga üle sõita, sest nende ülal pidamiseks vaja raisata ressursse mida targemad saaksid kasutada.
Kuid muidugi tumedad maailmad, kes inim hinge kaubandusega tegelevad... ei nad luba neil fassistidel seda teha nii naljalt.. neil omad plaanid ja suuremad kasud sees iga õnnetu hingega.
Kuid kuna suur osa inimesi on nõustunud, et ei ole perverstne elada teise inimese kukil, paneel majades ja rida elamutes, ning ehitatakse neid kilomeetri-paari kõrgusi maju juba, mille sees oma toidu tööstus ja kõik... et siis see number on talutav mis meil praegu on.. vabalt paarkümmend miljardit mahutame veel.
Muidugi .. siin mail võiks jääda sedasi.. et ikka normaalsetel inimestel on paar hektarit , või rohkem enda tarbeks .. et saaks piisavalt suure vaimuga elada...
kuid kui me vaid teaksime seda Loojate plaani, miks seda kõike lubatud... viirused ammu olemas ja veel olemas nano tehnoloogia mis inimesed suguvõimetuks teeks.. ja palju muud..
muidugi, teine küsimus on, kas me ikka teame, et suurem osa päriselt inimesed on... kas ikka on... eriti arvestades... et need targad iidsed maad ju kes teadsid elamise kuntsti tuhandeid aastaid tagasi... kuidas Sai neil järsku sündida inimesi kes ei oska midagi teha nii suures mahus.. mis juhtus..
Midagi juhtus.. ja ma pole kunagi arvestanud.. et enamus inimesed päriselt inimesed ilmtingimatta on,
osade osas on suuremad kahtlused, osade osas suuremad lootused
Kuid vaadates milliste loogikatega mõeldakse, siis päris maine see asi küll ei tundu31 March 2015 22:22
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
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Mai: ei ta saa, sest ajatul pole aega ega otsa ega algust ja lõpu31 March 2015 22:14
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
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Kas Sa liha söömist toetad? Suurem osa maad rüvetatakse just selle praeguseks ÜLE MILJARDI lihalooma pidamisega, .. nende karjamaad,,, nende toidumaad... kõik need metsad mis maha võetakse..31 March 2015 22:13
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Mai eheh ;D , nu jah, muidugi ma mõtlesin tegelikult palju palju peenemal kujul kui liht labased suured molekulid.. kuid noh, varbast nina otsani siis vast oleks õigem ütlus.
Kuid isegi oma armastatu lõhn ju on hea.. ja tema sõnad mis sumeelde jäänud.. et jah.. ainult molekulideni armastada see liiga vähe31 March 2015 22:11
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
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Ega praeguste inimeste käitumise juures Nomaan, siin ei aita miljard ega midagi,
ega number pole oluline, vaid kas me seda luusi Mai öeldut "armasta ligimest" asjast aru saada oskame,
Häid lambaid mahub palju ühte lauta,
ning jah... loomulikult, reaalses maailmas inimesed ei tohiks teineteise otsas ega kõrval elada.. sedasi vaadates jah, tududa võib et palju.
Kuid kui ma ütleme, et liialt palju.. see kuri asi ju.. sest siis oma hingele mitme miljardi surnukskuulutamise, ebavajalikuse võtame... ja mine tea, ma ise selles osas ei julgeks õige olla31 March 2015 22:09
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
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himustama pead Sa ainult oma kaasat, iga molekulini31 March 2015 22:05
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
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Moosese Esimene, Genesis 1:28
Enne seda Jumal polnud inimestele midagi käskinud ... või oli?31 March 2015 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ei ole liiga palju mida sa ajad31 March 2015 22:03
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
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Mis oli esimene käsk Jumalalt inimestele ?31 March 2015 21:59
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kõikide usundite südamik on sama
kogu looduse südamik on sama.
Inimesed vähesed kes nii ala arenenud, et Looja tunnetamiseks ja õigesti paljunemiseks vajasid reegleid ja õpetusi... kuid neid rakendades nad veelgi enam laiali joosta on proovinud, kuigi joosta pole kuhugi31 March 2015 21:58
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
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Kristluse fookus, kõige olulisem on seks31 March 2015 21:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Mai minu sus on lihtsalt nii lai, et see katab mitu teeharu korraga,
eks ma proovi kikivarvul.
Ma ju tegelen kõikide asjade lõplikult korda saamisega, et las olla õnnistatud need kellel antud tööks ainult ühe asjaga tegelemine.
Loomulikult, ainukene lõppsiht igal mehel on leida see keda armastada ja olla armastatud
kuid kuni sinnamaani.. eks ma rahmi..
(muidu õige soovitus, seda üle kümne aasta juba ise ka täheldanud.. kuid panen siinkohal lootuse sellisele ütlusele: "tobu kes oma enda püüdepalale järjekindlalt järgneb saab elutargaks" )31 March 2015 21:42
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kuid seks on alati Naise õigus, mitte kunagi mehe oma.
Vanasti meestel kellel naised ja kes õiges usus on, ei lubatud isegi kaugele reisida, sest see võtaks naiselt tema kõige algsema õiguse ära.
(vanad mehed, teadsid rääkida, et) Naine on ju Armuloom31 March 2015 21:37
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Siin kuskil mainiti, et seks pole nagu Kristlik teema,
seks on kõige kristlikum, süvausklikuim teema mis olemas saab olla.
Lihtsalt nii pühast asjast, nii olulisest asjast.. ei plärata niisama kergekäeliselt, ...ei ole teist tegu mis inimesele antud millega Loojat saaks paremini väljendada31 March 2015 21:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Just, seda need Hassidismi inimesed õpetavatki ploompuu Taimi ja aus Alari - et ei mingeid rituaale ega "õpetusi" peale otse tunnetamise ja mõistmise, et Jumal on siin, praegu ja pidevalt (mitte ainult mõned korrad nädalas rituaalides... eks muidugi need rituaalid ka osati osade asjade jaoks, ... kuid siis node Juutide jaoks on oluline, et inimene aru saaks oma pidevast suhtest Looduse ja Loojaga )31 March 2015 20:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Rahvastik Eestis
Kuna eestis sadu külasi mis tühjad.. siis mõtlesin, et ju neid elukohtasigi ole31 March 2015 19:54
Margus Meigo commented on Maie Olen's post.
Group: Rahvastik Eestis
Vot see on üks väga väärt loend31 March 2015 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Rahvastik Eestis
Ühesõnaga kordan veel üle, et mure on inimeste harimatus maaelu kasulikuse osas31 March 2015 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Rahvastik Eestis
Neil praegu plaan, eesti MAA maalastest tühjaks saada, ja siis jäädavalt võõrelanikud sisse summida, või need samad Narvas ootamas nagu Pätsu ajal tehti projekt kus maale saadeti inimesi... (vist hea oli, et saadeti.)
ning siis tehakse sellised lulli löömis alevikud.. mille kaudu saab tööstus sisse voolata ja sahkadega parkimis platsiks lükata selle ala siin, 300 ruut kilomeetrit parkimisplatsi sobib kenasti sõjaväe baasiks või kaubanduse keskuseks suurmaade vahel,
kuid seni kuni puu kallistajad siin elavad.. siis tuleviku suur kaubanduse plaane valitsejad paika panna ei saa ... nemad vaatavad ju asja praktiliselt.. et milliste suur orja keskuste vahel milleks mis maa nurk hea on transiidiks ja milleks iganes
ning veel muidu kõik need muud päris suured sala väärtused mis siin maal.. kes neid teab ja julgeb mõelda... ja ega see vist ka ainuke lootus... et just Nende asjade pärast, kelle seljataga me elame.. meiega täis lõppu teha ei lasta.. kuid miljon on juba väga palju liigi ja keele säilitamiseks...
on palju väiksemate numbritega olulisi saladusi ja kultuure säilitatud.. samast aja agusest 10 000 aasta kauguselt kui meie ise...
vot sellise suunalised, mõtted mul,
muidu mõtlen ikka kaasa ja muretsen selle kõige suunas siin ka31 March 2015 19:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Rahvastik Eestis
Ühesõnaga küsimus pole rahva arvus, vaid selles, et nad nii kavalad, et meid ise Maalt ära imenud, Linnadesse (mille nad plaanivad siis kui vaja õhku lasta või siis kui inimesed nendes kohtades piisavalt orjastunud oma Maa vastaseks, siis lihtsalt kasutada..) .. kuid jah.. see haigus, et pidevalt kogu maapind peab kasutuses olema... las ta puhkab ja las ta on... nõuka ajal liialt trambitigi siin masinatega ringi ja lõhuti ja rüvetati maad... taastuda oleks vaja paarsada aastat, või vähemalt pool sajanditki, enne kui loodus teadlikumad inimesed uuesti PUIDUST pesakohti tegema hakkavad.... mis koledad poleks kui maha jätta31 March 2015 19:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Rahvastik Eestis
(rooma asja mainisin, et meil ikka meeles oleks, et me kahepeaga kotkas ju pole keski muu kui Normaannide ja Roomlaste võimu üks tänapäeva tiibu siin, pääsukesi taga ajamas. )
(vene vapp on rooma impeeriumi tähtsaim sõja sümbol, millega nad ka saksamaa ja muude maade kallal olnud.. kuid see pikem arutus omaette, et sellest sotti saada miks ja kuidas need viikingid greeka-rooma orjapidajatega liidu tegid "demo(n)kraatia tarvis.. et kas mõeldi,,, et kuna ühed pätid mõlemad.. või avastati, et samat kurjuse liitu nad tegelikult teenivad... kes teab.. )
Kuid pole ainult kasu kui Eesti vabaks saame, peame vabastama ka Venemaa31 March 2015 19:20
Margus Meigo commented on Maie Olen's post.
Group: Rahvastik Eestis
Millionist Eestlasest niisuure maa peale rohkem kui küllaga31 March 2015 19:04
Margus Meigo commented on Dennis Wilen's post.
Group: cDc Ninja Strike Force
i like 572 359 362 477 more then the 447 152 700 339 but perhaps less then the fallowing one, to that.
But my self more in to focusing how to multycast the unneeded thought paterns and spirits out from the packs of generations.
flood their open channels when they are cut out from host while growing and healing up minds for self protections
More hardcore then Matthew 8:28-34,Luke 8:26-37..with no b/pig victims.
... global networking on it, on Perpetual motion
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10239147/1/An-Anomaly-in-Magic-Highschool
( vatican is on to this http://www.plusheal.com/forum/m/1833799/viewthread/1042311-holy-priest-raiding-guide-43 kind of trainings as well ... they know as well, that all technollogy is just introduction, descryption of higher usage of spiritual tech between minds)
I am serious tho, i always am, unless am joking seriousllyhttps://www.fanfiction.net/s/10239147/1/An-Anomaly-in-Magic-Highschool
31 March 2015 08:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mõtlesin just hapukoorele ja mingil pöhjuse lei pannud! argh!
31 March 2015 07:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"Social cycle theories are among the earliest social theories in sociology. Unlike the theory of social evolutionism, which views the evolution of society and human history as progressing in some new, unique direction(s), sociological cycle theory argues that events and stages of society and history are generally repeating themselves in cycles."
Among the prominent historiosophers, Russian philosopher Nikolai Danilewski (1822–1885) is important. In Rossiia i Europa (1869) he differentiated between various smaller civilizations (Egyptian, Chinese, Persian, Greek, Roman, German, and Slav, among others). He wrote that each civilization has a life cycle, and by the end of the 19th century the Roman-German civilization was in decline, while the Slav civilization was approaching its Golden Age. A similar theory was put forward by Oswald Spengler (1880–1936) who in his Der Untergang des Abendlandes (1918) also expected that the Western civilization was about to collapse.
The first social cycle theory in sociology was created by Italian sociologist and economist Vilfredo Pareto (1848–1923) in his Trattato di Sociologia Generale (1916). He centered his theory on the concept of an elite social class, which he divided into cunning 'foxes' and violent 'lions'. In his view of society, the power constantly passes from the 'foxes' to the 'lions' and vice versa.
Sociological cycle theory was also developed by Pitirim A. Sorokin (1889–1968) in his Social and Cultural Dynamics (1937, 1943). He classified societies according to their 'cultural mentality', which can be ideational (reality is spiritual), sensate (reality is material), or idealistic (a synthesis of the two). He interpreted the contemporary West as a sensate civilization dedicated to technological progress and prophesied its fall into decadence and the emergence of a new ideational or idealistic era.
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One of the most important recent findings in the study of the long-term dynamic social processes was the discovery of the political-demographic cycles as a basic feature of the dynamics of complex agrarian systems.
The presence of political-demographic cycles in the pre-modern history of Europe and China, and in chiefdom level societies worldwide has been known for quite a long time,[3] and already in the 1980s more or less developed mathematical models of demographic cycles started to be produced
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Recently the most important contributions to the development of the mathematical models of long-term ("secular") sociodemographic cycles have been made by Sergey Nefedov, Peter Turchin, Andrey Korotayev, and Sergey Malkov.[4] What is important is that on the basis of their models Nefedov, Turchin and Malkov have managed to demonstrate that sociodemographic cycles were a basic feature of complex agrarian systems (and not a specifically Chinese or European phenomenon).
The basic logic of these models is as follows:
After the population reaches the ceiling of the carrying capacity of land, its growth rate declines toward near-zero values.
The system experiences significant stress with decline in the living standards of the common population, increasing the severity of famines, growing rebellions etc.
As has been shown by Nefedov, most complex agrarian systems had considerable reserves for stability, however, within 50–150 years these reserves were usually exhausted and the system experienced a demographic collapse (a Malthusian catastrophe), when increasingly severe famines, epidemics, increasing internal warfare and other disasters led to a considerable decline of population.
As a result of this collapse, free resources became available, per capita production and consumption considerably increased, the population growth resumed and a new sociodemographic cycle started.
It has become possible to model these dynamics mathematically in a rather effective way. Note that the modern theories of political-demographic cycles do not deny the presence of trend dynamics and attempt at the study of the interaction between cyclical and trend components of historical dynamics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_cycle_theory
well, a bit like religious people.. but still need to integrate cluster parallel world and our growers plans..
Among the prominent historiosophers, Russian philosopher Nikolai Danilewski (1822–1885) is important. In Rossiia i Europa (1869) he differentiated between various smaller civilizations (Egyptian, Chinese, Persian, Greek, Roman, German, and Slav, among others). He wrote that each civilization has a life cycle, and by the end of the 19th century the Roman-German civilization was in decline, while the Slav civilization was approaching its Golden Age. A similar theory was put forward by Oswald Spengler (1880–1936) who in his Der Untergang des Abendlandes (1918) also expected that the Western civilization was about to collapse.
The first social cycle theory in sociology was created by Italian sociologist and economist Vilfredo Pareto (1848–1923) in his Trattato di Sociologia Generale (1916). He centered his theory on the concept of an elite social class, which he divided into cunning 'foxes' and violent 'lions'. In his view of society, the power constantly passes from the 'foxes' to the 'lions' and vice versa.
Sociological cycle theory was also developed by Pitirim A. Sorokin (1889–1968) in his Social and Cultural Dynamics (1937, 1943). He classified societies according to their 'cultural mentality', which can be ideational (reality is spiritual), sensate (reality is material), or idealistic (a synthesis of the two). He interpreted the contemporary West as a sensate civilization dedicated to technological progress and prophesied its fall into decadence and the emergence of a new ideational or idealistic era.
---------------
One of the most important recent findings in the study of the long-term dynamic social processes was the discovery of the political-demographic cycles as a basic feature of the dynamics of complex agrarian systems.
The presence of political-demographic cycles in the pre-modern history of Europe and China, and in chiefdom level societies worldwide has been known for quite a long time,[3] and already in the 1980s more or less developed mathematical models of demographic cycles started to be produced
--
Recently the most important contributions to the development of the mathematical models of long-term ("secular") sociodemographic cycles have been made by Sergey Nefedov, Peter Turchin, Andrey Korotayev, and Sergey Malkov.[4] What is important is that on the basis of their models Nefedov, Turchin and Malkov have managed to demonstrate that sociodemographic cycles were a basic feature of complex agrarian systems (and not a specifically Chinese or European phenomenon).
The basic logic of these models is as follows:
After the population reaches the ceiling of the carrying capacity of land, its growth rate declines toward near-zero values.
The system experiences significant stress with decline in the living standards of the common population, increasing the severity of famines, growing rebellions etc.
As has been shown by Nefedov, most complex agrarian systems had considerable reserves for stability, however, within 50–150 years these reserves were usually exhausted and the system experienced a demographic collapse (a Malthusian catastrophe), when increasingly severe famines, epidemics, increasing internal warfare and other disasters led to a considerable decline of population.
As a result of this collapse, free resources became available, per capita production and consumption considerably increased, the population growth resumed and a new sociodemographic cycle started.
It has become possible to model these dynamics mathematically in a rather effective way. Note that the modern theories of political-demographic cycles do not deny the presence of trend dynamics and attempt at the study of the interaction between cyclical and trend components of historical dynamics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_cycle_theory
well, a bit like religious people.. but still need to integrate cluster parallel world and our growers plans..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_cycle_theory
31 March 2015 07:11
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis van Kaldalu's photo.
Is tat really a voting machine..
31 March 2015 04:22
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis van Kaldalu's photo.
Kõige veidram asi ongi, et inimesed on olnud nõus hääletama salaja viimased 20 aastat ja siis imestavad, et usaldamatus on suur
vaest tunne, et mu planeedil on tulnukad
maise mõistusega küll nii ümber nurga asju ei aetaks
vaest tunne, et mu planeedil on tulnukad
maise mõistusega küll nii ümber nurga asju ei aetaks
31 March 2015 04:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja veel, et
"Ülepea valitseb rahva arvamises kärnkonna kohta kahesugune vaade: ühed peavad teda õnnetoovaks loomaks, teised vihkavad teda. Vihkamine põhjeneb legendil. Kui vaenlased Jeesust tahtnud kinni võtta, otsinud nad teda taga ja küsinud igaühelt, kas ta Õnnistegijat ei ole näinud. Kärnkonn vastanud küsijatele: Praegu läks mööda! Praegu läks mööda! Et kärnkonn vaenlasi Jeesuse jälile juhatanud, sellest viha ta vastu (Miks, lk. 37). Teisendi järele peab ta sellepärast sopa ja muda sees elama, et Õnnistegija ristilöömise ajal üks nael maha sopa sisse kukkus ja enne ilus kärnkonn seda nähes hüüdis: Nael soppa kukkunud! (Sitzungsberichte d. Gel. Estn. Ges. 1886, lk. 46.) Sest saadik saanud kärnkonn ühtlasi inetuks.
Kuna Sõrves kärnkonnale jumalikku au tahetakse anda, nimetatakse teda teisal koguni Juuda tütreks. Tal on Juuda visa hing, teda ei või muud viisi tappa kui ainult horgiga läbi torgates. Veel püütakse ta tigedat loomu sellega seletada, et ta vahel raha-augul viibib ega taha raha kätte anda. Teise sõnaga öeldud: rahaauau-haldjas esineb mõnikord kärnkonna kujul, sagedamini armastab ta ometi siku või muud kuju.
Kärnkonna tulek lauta või majasse kuulutab õnnetust. Kärnkonn võetakse niisugusel puhul kinni, seotakse vitsa külge ja põletatakse ära. Esimene majasse tulev võõras on õnnetuse soovija (Iisaku).
Mõned näpunäited osutavad sinnapoole, et kärnkonn mõnikord surnu hinge kehastusena esineb. Sakslaste seast leiame arvamise, et hing vahel elusa inimese uinumise ajal suust kärnkonna kujul lahkub ja mõne aja pärast jälle tagasi tuleb. Eestis ei ole mulle niisugust väidet silma puutunud; küll aga räägitakse meil sagedasti, et hing mingisuguse väikese tiivulise kujul kehast lahkub. Tirolis peetakse kärnkonna kellegi patupalka kannatava isiku hingeks (Simrock, D. Mythologie, lk. 466). Germaanlaste seas igatahes on paremini välja arenenud mõiste, et kärnkonnas inimese hing võib esineda.
Kärnkonna varal võib nõiakski saada, kui nimelt naisterahvas kärnkonna põues kannab ja laseb oma rinda imeda.
Enne jüripäeva kinnipüütud ja kuivatatud konnaga vajutatakse veripaiseid; need saavad siis varssi terveks.
Kärnkonna tapja saab 9 pattu andeks (Risti); 99 pattu andeks (Urvaste). "
(tegelikult ma arvan, et pigem ei saa, kui nad just 5 je jalaga pole.. kuid jah, pigem ikka saad omale node patud kaela kui kedagi oma patukoorma pärast tappma asud)
http://et.wikisource.org/wiki/Eesti_vana_usk/VI._Loomad
"Ülepea valitseb rahva arvamises kärnkonna kohta kahesugune vaade: ühed peavad teda õnnetoovaks loomaks, teised vihkavad teda. Vihkamine põhjeneb legendil. Kui vaenlased Jeesust tahtnud kinni võtta, otsinud nad teda taga ja küsinud igaühelt, kas ta Õnnistegijat ei ole näinud. Kärnkonn vastanud küsijatele: Praegu läks mööda! Praegu läks mööda! Et kärnkonn vaenlasi Jeesuse jälile juhatanud, sellest viha ta vastu (Miks, lk. 37). Teisendi järele peab ta sellepärast sopa ja muda sees elama, et Õnnistegija ristilöömise ajal üks nael maha sopa sisse kukkus ja enne ilus kärnkonn seda nähes hüüdis: Nael soppa kukkunud! (Sitzungsberichte d. Gel. Estn. Ges. 1886, lk. 46.) Sest saadik saanud kärnkonn ühtlasi inetuks.
Kuna Sõrves kärnkonnale jumalikku au tahetakse anda, nimetatakse teda teisal koguni Juuda tütreks. Tal on Juuda visa hing, teda ei või muud viisi tappa kui ainult horgiga läbi torgates. Veel püütakse ta tigedat loomu sellega seletada, et ta vahel raha-augul viibib ega taha raha kätte anda. Teise sõnaga öeldud: rahaauau-haldjas esineb mõnikord kärnkonna kujul, sagedamini armastab ta ometi siku või muud kuju.
Kärnkonna tulek lauta või majasse kuulutab õnnetust. Kärnkonn võetakse niisugusel puhul kinni, seotakse vitsa külge ja põletatakse ära. Esimene majasse tulev võõras on õnnetuse soovija (Iisaku).
Mõned näpunäited osutavad sinnapoole, et kärnkonn mõnikord surnu hinge kehastusena esineb. Sakslaste seast leiame arvamise, et hing vahel elusa inimese uinumise ajal suust kärnkonna kujul lahkub ja mõne aja pärast jälle tagasi tuleb. Eestis ei ole mulle niisugust väidet silma puutunud; küll aga räägitakse meil sagedasti, et hing mingisuguse väikese tiivulise kujul kehast lahkub. Tirolis peetakse kärnkonna kellegi patupalka kannatava isiku hingeks (Simrock, D. Mythologie, lk. 466). Germaanlaste seas igatahes on paremini välja arenenud mõiste, et kärnkonnas inimese hing võib esineda.
Kärnkonna varal võib nõiakski saada, kui nimelt naisterahvas kärnkonna põues kannab ja laseb oma rinda imeda.
Enne jüripäeva kinnipüütud ja kuivatatud konnaga vajutatakse veripaiseid; need saavad siis varssi terveks.
Kärnkonna tapja saab 9 pattu andeks (Risti); 99 pattu andeks (Urvaste). "
(tegelikult ma arvan, et pigem ei saa, kui nad just 5 je jalaga pole.. kuid jah, pigem ikka saad omale node patud kaela kui kedagi oma patukoorma pärast tappma asud)
http://et.wikisource.org/wiki/Eesti_vana_usk/VI._Loomad
http://et.wikisource.org/wiki/Eesti_vana_usk/VI._Loomad
31 March 2015 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja veel, et
" Kärnkonna laudast leides vaadatakse kohe hoolsalt järele, kas see on oma või võõras kärnkonn. Aru saadakse kärnkonna jalgadest. Leitakse kärnkonnal viis jalga, tähendab see, et kärnkonn ei ole piima kasvataja, vaid kahandaja, kas puuk või aga nõid, kes enesele kärnkonna kuju võtnud. Ei taheta oletamise pärast, et kärnkonn niisuguseks moondunud nõid, looma tappa, murtakse tal jalg katki. Niisugusel puhul jääb nõid või puuk eluajaks vigaseks ega tule enam lehmade piima imema."
elementarne, ju eksju
(Küll aga esindab kärnkonn puuki. Puuk ilmub tihti kärnkonna kujul, imeb lehma udarast piima ja viib oma perenaisele. Perenaised loodavad ometi kärnkonnast oma lehmadele piimaõnne: kui kärnkonn laudas, annavad lehmad rohkesti piima. Kel võimalik, viib kärnkonna lauta. Omadelt lehmadelt kärnkonn piima ei ime, küll aga võõrastest lautadest.)
" Kärnkonna laudast leides vaadatakse kohe hoolsalt järele, kas see on oma või võõras kärnkonn. Aru saadakse kärnkonna jalgadest. Leitakse kärnkonnal viis jalga, tähendab see, et kärnkonn ei ole piima kasvataja, vaid kahandaja, kas puuk või aga nõid, kes enesele kärnkonna kuju võtnud. Ei taheta oletamise pärast, et kärnkonn niisuguseks moondunud nõid, looma tappa, murtakse tal jalg katki. Niisugusel puhul jääb nõid või puuk eluajaks vigaseks ega tule enam lehmade piima imema."
elementarne, ju eksju
(Küll aga esindab kärnkonn puuki. Puuk ilmub tihti kärnkonna kujul, imeb lehma udarast piima ja viib oma perenaisele. Perenaised loodavad ometi kärnkonnast oma lehmadele piimaõnne: kui kärnkonn laudas, annavad lehmad rohkesti piima. Kel võimalik, viib kärnkonna lauta. Omadelt lehmadelt kärnkonn piima ei ime, küll aga võõrastest lautadest.)
31 March 2015 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Veelgi viletsam oli keskajal kärnkonna seisund, sest kui madu sümboliseeris ka tarkust, siis kärnkonn oli läbinisti patu ja pahede kehastaja. Ta on kuradi tavaline ilmumiskuju, mida on mainitud juba Johannese Ilmutusraamatus"
http://www.ut.ee/folk/index.php/oppetoo/kaitstud-toeoed/224-valk-dissrt
Kuid eestlastel:
"Kärnkonn kuulub rahvaluules tähtsamate loomade kilda. Nagu siil Kalevipojale head õpetust annab, teeb seda kärnkonngi. Kui Kalevipoeg ei tea, kuidas põrgulistega toime saada (XIX, 191-194):
Kärnakonna krooksumaie,
Targelikult tähendama:
Kõlistele kellukesta,
Kuulutele kuldakeelta.
Kärnkonna õpetuse järele tegemine saadab Kalevipoja sihile. Iseasjaks jääb ometi, kas see õpetus tõesti rahvasuust pärit või Kreutzwaldi oma sulest. Andmed puuduvad esimese oletuse toetamiseks.
Holzmayeri teate järele nõuab kärnkonn enesele koguni jumalikku au: üks mees võtnud Sõrvemaal vana-aasta õhtul võikarbist kärnkonna välja, pannud teki peale ja ütelnud ise:
Hüppa, jumal, karga, jumal,
Uue aasta õnne peale. (Osiliana, lk. 37.)
Muidu ei ole mingisuguseid teateid leitud, mis kuidagi katsuksid kärnkonna jumalaks teha, seda enam, et jumal üldse rahvaluules harukorral esineb. Vist tuleb seda jumalaks nimetamist Sõrvemaal üksikuks juhtumuseks pidada."
http://www.ut.ee/folk/index.php/oppetoo/kaitstud-toeoed/224-valk-dissrt
Kuid eestlastel:
"Kärnkonn kuulub rahvaluules tähtsamate loomade kilda. Nagu siil Kalevipojale head õpetust annab, teeb seda kärnkonngi. Kui Kalevipoeg ei tea, kuidas põrgulistega toime saada (XIX, 191-194):
Kärnakonna krooksumaie,
Targelikult tähendama:
Kõlistele kellukesta,
Kuulutele kuldakeelta.
Kärnkonna õpetuse järele tegemine saadab Kalevipoja sihile. Iseasjaks jääb ometi, kas see õpetus tõesti rahvasuust pärit või Kreutzwaldi oma sulest. Andmed puuduvad esimese oletuse toetamiseks.
Holzmayeri teate järele nõuab kärnkonn enesele koguni jumalikku au: üks mees võtnud Sõrvemaal vana-aasta õhtul võikarbist kärnkonna välja, pannud teki peale ja ütelnud ise:
Hüppa, jumal, karga, jumal,
Uue aasta õnne peale. (Osiliana, lk. 37.)
Muidu ei ole mingisuguseid teateid leitud, mis kuidagi katsuksid kärnkonna jumalaks teha, seda enam, et jumal üldse rahvaluules harukorral esineb. Vist tuleb seda jumalaks nimetamist Sõrvemaal üksikuks juhtumuseks pidada."
http://www.ut.ee/folk/index.php/oppetoo/kaitstud-toeoed/224-valk-dissrt
31 March 2015 03:35
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Kuidas arvate, kas see siis on, üks puhtamaid arusaame ja selgitusi kuidas tajuda usku ja olla usus, pidevalt ?
Või arvate,et ikka olulisem on rituaalid ja suurte keeruliste tekstide üle filosofeerimine .31 March 2015 01:23
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Lisaks peaks veel juurde märkima teises värvis seal, need asjad mille osas ei ole võimalik toetada teist vaadet ja olla päriselt piibli põhine inimene31 March 2015 01:22
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Nii, et mis siis arvate? Soovite aidata kaasa arendada.
See siis kahe erineva mooduse kuidas aju töötab selgitamiseks, et aru saada, kas inimese aju töötab usklikult või Kreekalikult.
See tabel võtab ainult pool tundi - tunni läbi vaatamiseks, kuid võib olla kõige olulisem asi peale piibli mida lugenud oled (midagi mille kaudu hakkad päriselt ka piiblist ja ilmalikust ning usklikust maailma vaatest aru saama... vaata kumma tulba väidetes Sa esined peaaegu alati..)31 March 2015 01:21
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Nende asjade osas tahaks praktilisi edasi arendusi31 March 2015 01:20
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Mu kaks teemat, et arutada seda Greeka ja Heebria aju kasutamise tehnikat (kus kogu mateeriat nullist alates hoopis teistmoodi tõlgendatakse ja kus aju teisi küsimusi küsib)
Ning siis veel seda Hassidismi asja, et kas See siiani on kõige selgem ja mõistlikum jumala tunnetamise vorm mille nad kirja pannud ning mis peab ka vastu müstikute ja taime-vaimu tarkade maailma vaatele kes lisa maailmades ja ilma füüsiliste piirideta kohtades liiguvad31 March 2015 01:19
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See on totrus, juustega teiste jalge pesemine pole kasulik, lisaks ei lubaks ükski normaalse hingega inimene ennast alandada sedasi et oma jalgu teisel juustega nühkida laseb ning kui ta lasi, siis see on ilmselge märk, et tegu on tõuguga
(kes üleolev või muidu suts veider peast.. sest tõepoolest, jjuuste karvadega eiole kasulik pesta teisi, kas neil riide kaltsu polnud siis või heina tuusti?! )
kui saamatu või väga purjus ollakse, siis lastakse teisel oma jalgu pesta
normaalne mees peseb ise oma jalad puhtaks,31 March 2015 00:59
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Millal sa teise täiskasvanud mehe jalgu viimati pesid?
(mina umbes aasta tagasi)31 March 2015 00:57
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See on lollussest juustega teiste jalge pesemine pole kasulik, lisaks ei lubaks ükski normaalse hingega inimene ennast alandada sedasi et oma jalgu teisel juustega nühkida laseb ning kui ta lasi, siis see on ilmselge märk, et tegu on tõuguga
kui saamatu või väga purjus ollakse, siis lastakse teisel oma jalgu pesta
normaalne mees peseb ise oma jalad puhtaks,31 March 2015 00:57
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Mulle ühesõnaga31 March 2015 00:52
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Nüüd anti Sulle aga võimalus teenida jumalat, ja näidata kui palju Sa jeesuse sõnadest aru said, ja meeles hoiad, et ta siia Torath tuli kinnitama ka lisaks muule.
Ja lisaks uuele, veel mis ees,
ega kõike ka kirja ei pandud ega arusaamisesse, see ka piiblis endas kirjas ju veel.. et siin veel tulevad arusaami paljud,
kuid algelise, asjadega vaja hakkama saada meil maal kõigepealt, nagu enda keha armastamine, maailma armastamine ja seda kasutama hakata kui jumala toodangut ja läbi siin oma kätte asju võttes healt.. jääbi sellele vähem kellele seda vaja pole.. kes siin võõras... ja sa tead, et julged edasi minna ja õpetada, sest su isiklik sõber on Looja30 March 2015 08:36
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NU oluline on ikka see, et Sa SIIN selles elus patuvabalt elama hakkaksid, sest kui Sa seda ei tee siis näitad, et Sa ei usu Jeesust,
ega siis arvad keegi, et see ongi piisav, et usume teise ristil olema ja siis elame ükskõik kuidas ja võime suitsu teha ja mida iganes mõelda?
Ei ... Üldse mitte.. mõelda vaid kui see nii lihtne oleks, et lihtsalt usud, et teine oli ristil ja su patud pühitud ... küll siis oleks kerge see maailm korda saada.
Kuid ikka inimesel siin vaja õppida, ja õppida aitama kõiki teisi ja ennast paremaks teha, Loodust ka vaja õppida.
Ega sa mingi inim maailmaga paneel majasse peale surma siis ei lähe (noh.. muidugi eks oleneb... kuhu lähed..)
Patud on pühitud, andeks on antud kõik Su teod.. nüüd vaja standardit hoida ja paremaks saada iga päevaga, SEE maailm siin paremaks tehajärgmiste jaoks, oma panus panna, teod näitavad usku ja armastust, ...mõtted ka muidugi...
Kui sul pate poleks andeks antud, siis muidugi, poleks mingit vahet mida siin maal teed, sest läheksid mida iganes tehes ikka sinna ...30 March 2015 08:33
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nu inimesed pidid ingilite asemel jumala kõrval saama universumite valitsejate abilisteks vist
naised saunas rääkisid30 March 2015 08:24
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Ja kui tead, et mingi tunde hetkel, mingi mõte täis patu vaba pole võimalik hoida, siis kohe kiirelt loo endale vabandus, selline karantiini pakett selle ümber, kus annad teada, et sa seda päriselt ei mõtle kuid mõtled asja läbi... kuid kohe alguses oled teadlik, et see on meele puhastuseks.. ja kindlasti lõpus jõuad teadmisele miks seda vaja pole (kellegi vastased strateegiad, kuidas kedagi Õpetada vms) ... ja siis mõtte lõpus paned selle prügikasti, oma meeltes.. ja lased minna.. ning oledki sellest vaba
sest kui Sa mõtled,siis tead, et kindlasti vähemalt neid mõtteid mis on ebameeldivad või ebavajalikud... neid ja nende kulgu teab ja jälgib ja arvestab tuleviku piires sinu Looja ja ta sõbrad, seega pole mingit kasulikust ju Sulle mõelda midagi mis ebasobilik,
(samas Sinu head ja parimad mõtted ja asjad mis Sinule pluss punkte toovad, neid ei tasu loota, et keegi näeb ega kuuleb kindlat, neid mõtle aint siis kui päriselt nii mõtled.. ja tunne õrna häbelikust ainult vahest.. tuletades meelde, et neid võib ju keegi ka näha ja kuulda.. kuid sellega arvestama kohe kindlasti kunagi ei peaks,),
ka ei ole ju kasulik anda vaesele raha selle pärast, et Sul endal sellest parem meel hakkaks.
Seksuaalsed mõtted, need muidugi sellised mida vist pole vaja ka karantiin kastis mõelda.. neid lihtne peatada, sest kui nad elus inimest puudutavad siis juba ka tema õigused oled ületanud kui ta selleks luba pole andnud
ainukesed asjad mis jäävad mul endal veel hulpima, vahest lausa mitu minutit on "küll ma sulle näidata veel ju saan kuidas mul see või see asi on õigus..." kuid nüüd harjunud ka neid asju laskma minna,
kuid noh.. eks katsumusi ka tõmbad ligi siis..30 March 2015 06:07
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See ei võta mingit suurt pingutust ega vaeva, et olla patuta, lihtsalt tuleb hoolida ja aru saada mis maailmas Sa lapsi üles kasvatad.
Lisaks on ka päris lihtne oma mõtteid kontrollida, et kui hakkab tulema ebasobiv mõte (kui keegi midagi väga alatut näib olema teinud Sulle) siis saab selle juba enne mõtte lõpuni mõtlemist peatada ja ära suunata, ilma, et seda vaevaks Kristuse kaela peab panema, lisa raskuseks.
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Muidugi teine asi on see, et mida Sa tead ja mida ei tea mis on patt, ja mida rohkem teada saad seda rohkem asju on millest vabaneda vaja... kuid see omakorda toob kergust ja lihtsust muudest pattudeks eemaldumiseks.
Ka une maailmades, unistustes ja metsas olles, tuleb olla patuta, ka süües ja meediat vaadates (et mitte, niisama ei naudi pidevalt.. teadmatta miks seda Jumalale vaja on, vaid ikka asja pärast, ... siin on nii palju põnevat iga päev mis loojale kasuks... niisama millegi tegemine mis mõttes vähemalt tundub vähem kui kasulik... kuidas inimene endale selle aja õigustab, see on üks veider asi mida ma veel täies mahus pole proovinud endale sõnadesse panna)30 March 2015 05:57
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Ma endiselt arvan, et patuta elada on lihtne.
Usun, et generatsioon peale minu lapsi, peaks suutma seda sünnist lõpuni teha. Mul ongi plaan sellised lapsed ilmale tuua kes endale patuta lapsed kasvataks.30 March 2015 05:56
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Ainuke asi millega võib raskeks minna, on Jeesuse kokkuvõte seadusest: "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself,"
eriti kui naabrid pahaendelisele röövretkele ja rüvetamisele tulevad.
Tava inimestel peaks olema väga väga lihtne neist kinni pidada ja teineteist pidevalt tukast sakutada kui tundub, et me üks või teine sellest üle astume ise märkamatta (kuid siis läbi selle naabri armastuse astuda parandama..)
Juutidel endal aga, juba suts raskem ja ega see meie elu teeks ka ainult paremaks, kui ka siit listist nii paljusi lisa käske ja õpetusi oskaksime järgida kui võimelised oleme, mis vajalik tundub. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_commandments#Maimonides.27_listhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_commandments#Maimonides.27_list
30 March 2015 03:04
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Okey vaadates neid 10et käsku, kas nad mitte pole nii imelihtsad, et peaks olema ilma suure vaevata neid hoida heal inimesel?
Vaatasin just et...
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=+Deuteronomy+5%3A4-21&version=OJB;CJB
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=+Exodus+20%3A1-17&version=OJB;CJB
Midagi erilist pole nõutud,
Kuidas seda inimesed on pandud uskuma, nagu see poole sõnagagi oleks üleloomulk mis on soovitatud ?https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=+Deuteronomy+5%3A4-21&version=OJB%3BCJB
30 March 2015 03:04
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Kui soov oma elu uuendada, surma ja elu teste läbi teha, uuesti sündida ja sedasi... (juhul, kui kindel veendumus on, et muidu nagunii tapad ära, et lootuse kaotanud ja kellegi jutud enam kohale ei jõua) siis on olemas taimed, mille abil Sa saad neid maailmu kogeda, ja neist õppida... ning vaata kas siis peale seda, kui 2-3 korda külastanud erinevaid võimalusi oled, kas endiselt soovid võtta endalt midagi nii väärtuslikku.
(psühhedeelsed taimed ja ained, valesti kasutades räägitakse, et ka hinge vib kaotada.. kui ilma jumalata teele minna... kuid noh, kindlasti kasulikum kui enese elu vtmine või masenduses edasi elamine )
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Muidugi igaks juhuks pea meeles neid kohti: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+18%3A10-11&version=OJB;CJB
Ja kui nad ütlevad sellist asja:
mentioned in a generally disapproving tone. The Masoretic Text of the Torah forbids:
kashaph; kashaph is of ambiguous meaning, being either from a root meaning mutter,[4] or from a compound of the words kash (herb) and hapalah (using) - hence meaning herb user.[5] The Septuagint renders the same phrase as pharmakia (poison), so it may refer to magic potions
Kuid ma uurisin asja natukene, sest väga ebaloogiline tundub, et Jumal keelaks oma targeimate taimede kasutamist inimestel, selleks milleks need loodud, et tema loomingu osas ja enese paranduse osas targemaks saada,
ning siis tuli välja, et nad mõtlevad "kedagi kes kasutab taimi pahaendeliselt" (nagu mürgitades)
seega siis asi loogilisem, sest on ka taimi mida hoopis paha jaoks kasutatakse, kuid (meele selgust toovad hallotsionigeensed) psühhedeelsed taimed teatavasti ei ole mürgised, ning sellest samm edasi juba muud taimed nagu kärbseseen jms on juba nende inimeste tarvis kes hoopis muude maailmaasja edendamistega tegelevad kuna annavad ligipääsu kohtadesse kuhu jumal ei sooviksi karjades inimesi niisama kondama, veel.
Nende asjade ülbelt ja üleliia kasutamisel kohe on ka pandud looja ilma poolt karistused mida meil lastakse kogeda, mida mõned "bad trippideks" kutsuvad, sellepärast ka nagu Sa kunagi avastada võid siis suurem osa joodikud, narkareid ja pidutsejaid hoiavad neist asjadest eemale nagu kass tulest, sest erinevalt peo ainetest mida võib turvaliselt mõnuledes võtta kuni haiglasse satud tervise kahjustusega, siis need taimed ja ained mis päris shamaanilikud on, annavad hoopis teisipidi vastu näppe sest nad annavad ka õpetuse miks ja kuidas ja panevad, sunnivad Sind vastutuse võtma, elu eest, mida muidugi suurem osa noori kes mõnuleda aint tahavad ei soovi, et neile keegi suur isa reegleid loeks, või mõned muud olendid isa autoriteediga.
Seega jah... kindlasti surmale ise mõelda sedasi ei tasu.. ma ise ka asun vist kuskile tänava poole.. või vaatab kuhu hing viiakse, kuid ma vaevalt, et tahaksin unistada ise enda elu võtmisest olukorras kus on võimalik veel taimedega kontakti kunagi saada, või naisele minna.https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+18%3A10-11&version=OJB%3BCJB
30 March 2015 02:35
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Muidugi ta uuris ka, et kas on rohkem, inimestele seletatavaid põhjuseid ka MIKS on Vaja Mitte endalt võtta see mis meile anti.
Et kas on teada. Põhjuseid.
Lisaks, kui sa tapad, siis Sa annad nagu loojale mõista, et ta ei pakkunud Sulle piisavalt aju ega õpetust, et siin selles maailmas hakkama saada ja see omamoodi solvang (kui ta solvuks) ja ülbus..
kuid veel oluline ka see, et kuna suurem osa inimesi ei oska ennast tappa, ehk siis omavad sellel hetkel ebasündsaid mõtteid, maailma headuse kohta, siis võib surres sattuda kuskile kohtadesse kus meil pole soovi, kus ei ole parem, kuhu meid miskid paharetid just meelitada soovisid ehk.
Teatud kultuurides, isegi eriti surma spetsid, nad väga väga kindlaks tahtsid teha, et inimene õigesti sureks, et ikka saaks inimene kohe edasi oma eluga minna nii kuidas loodud, mitte, et jääks kuskile valesse järjekorda enda põletamist ootama ... vaid, et ikka oleksid valmis päriselt surema, ja vastu võttma seda mis palju suurem, hirmsam ja pääsematum kui siinne elu.
Nii natuke kui ma näinud olen.. siis ma niisama naljalt küll ei võtaks, samas aga sureksin rahulikult küll, usaldades, et jumal viib kuhu on vaja kui ma väärt piisavalt olen.
Ise elus ainult paar korda kooruses ära pääsenud sellisest teost30 March 2015 02:33
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Loomi ka ei tohi tappa tegelikult, ja ka nemad hingega selgelt.
taimede osas veel antakse andeks, sest kuuldavasti nad kõrgemalt arenenud ja saavad ennast valust lahti ühendada ning samas teadlikult kasvavad selleks, et ennast pakkuda madamatele liikidele nagu meie, et me nende eest ringi liikudes saaks teha kehaga neid asju milleks meile keha anti, nagu Jumala teenimiseks30 March 2015 02:26
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Ja vaat kus saab veel astme võrra, siit asja tõsisemaks:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+7%3A14-212&version=OJB
(ja ka nende ümberjutustus on kenasti loetav: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+7%3A14-212&version=MSG ..kuigi see CJB vist võrdväärselt hea või parem.)
Seega jah, inglise keele jaoks, ma võtaks need kaks Juudi versiooni... paneks märke neile asjadele mis meie piiblites on ühe ja sama asja alla pandud kuid mis nendes raamatutes on erinevalt märgitud (näiteks hea versioon1 või versioon2 ... ning siis nende sõnade tagamaad uurida Juudilikult, kasvõi selle Kristlastele mõeldud Juudi kodulehe pealt mille enne postitasin.. )
Muidugi veel vaja siis omakorda olulisemad kohad KJB versioonis üle vaadata, et teaksime miks ja mille osas kellel on segadus, et oskaksime omasid aidata ja märgata kes tänulikud abi osas ja kes ülemäära üleolevalt või teravalt reageerivad
Siit peaksime natukene uut elu mõnegi asja osas sisse saama, tunnet, et me lihtsast maailma vaatest, natukene täiuslikuma maailma tunnetuse poole enda tajusi tundlikumaks hakkame muutma, teineteisel, üksteisel, ise endal ja teistel.https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+7%3A14-212&version=OJB
29 March 2015 23:00
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May World'sHappiest kusjures, vaat see jutt mis sellest Ro 7:14 edasi läheb, on minu arust päris selgem Juudi Piibli versioonis võrreldes King James
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+7%3A14-212&version=CJB
King James: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+7%3A14-212&version=KJV
Miks oli neil, mis niigi raske mõista, vaja veel raskemini loetavamaks teha?
Kohe rohkem Elulisust on tunda õigemas tõlkes, nagu teatud Eesti keele tõlgetes mida leidnud olen vanadest piiblitesthttps://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+7%3A14-212&version=CJB
29 March 2015 22:40
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Meelis Vesi,
Millised iganes juured need olid nii soositud, et Jumal nad enda rahvaks kasvatada plaanis, kuid Dualism .. kas see just mitte juudi usu vastane arusaam pole?
Juudid ei hooli ju isegi nii palju ei põrgust ega taevast vaid jätab need asjad Jumala hooleks ning keskenduvad tema teenimisele siin ja praegu, täies sõna ulatuses, sünnist surmani.
Mul pea praegu sutsu tühi ka.. oma enda elu keeriste tõttu, kuid jah.. millegi pärast ikka mõtlesin.. et just Dualism see milles meie elame (rikkad vs vaesed, demon-kraadid vs vaba-riiklased, kommunistid vs usklikud, karsklus vs naudingute järgi elamine...naise õigus vs mehe õigus...prantslased vs sakslased... haritlased vs harimatud... linna rahavas vs maa rahvas.... esoteerikud vs realistid.. ) ..mõtlesin, et see just on see milles "meie" elame.29 March 2015 22:25
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Vabandust, eelneva pika teksti pärast. kuid kui Sul on vaja või tunne hea siis lugege. Ära vaeva tunne ega kohustust.29 March 2015 21:40
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Või kui vaadata seda tähte.. http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Aleph-Bet/Ayin/ayin.html
Ei saa ju arvata, et see info kõik üle ääre on.
Mõtle mis siis toimub inimese peas kui ta suudaks algses keeles lugeda, teada IGA sõna Tähendust ja nende koosluste Tähendust, rääkimata siis kirjakeele Tähendusest... ja müütidest...
ja suudaks neid siis vaadata ning Juudi ja Kreeka mõttemaailma järgi korraga Näha .. Kas see isegi mitte liiga suur pole, et isegi osata ette kujutada ?
Vot... ja mõtle, kui kogu Sinu selline kogukond, on ühel meelel ja nad rahulikult oma elu elades kõik nii neid kirjakohti naudivad ja ise oma lastele edasi annavad kes rõõmu silmis kuulavad, austusega oma vanemaid, ja ka karme sõnu, austusega, kui eksitud (sest siis oskab vanem ka valida just kõige õigemad sõnad mis südame põhjas põngerjale teada annab, koos kogu kogukonnaga, kuidas lood on selle eksimuse osas...). Juudid ju Kreeka kooli süsteemi vastu, sest nad uskuvat, et Vanemad ja Jumal ise oma last oskab õpetada ja juhtida kuhu vaja.
Vot selline rahvas,... kes teab ju piisavalt, et saaks teha mida iganes. kuid kelle ike on pimedate vangla kes nende ümber on.. pimedad kes ennast Juudiga võrdsustab (sest arvavad, et "juut" on lihtsalt üks tuhandetest uskumustest..), osates ise aint mõnda masina keelt ja teiste kirja pandud suvaliselt ette antud uskumusi ja aja-lugusi (ilma omamata põhja, läbi mille nad saaksid näha miks milline lugu on kirjutatud... vaid võtavad kõike kreeka, matemaatilise, maailma läbi kus Jumal on kuskil kaugel asuv hüpeteetiline hea ja moraalselt kasulik asi millese tore KA uskuda, lisaks "reaalsetele" asjadele)
ja ometi.. Juudid väga tagasihoidlikult nende pimedatega.. ei ole neid kuulda lärmamas kuskil..
vot selline rahvas..
Kelle juurde tuldud küsima ja õppima nende asju, on ikka ja jälle ainult selleks, et paremini osata Juute teelt vallutada, või neid ennast, Juudi vastaseid arendada mingi teaduse osas... kuid tulla, austusega, nagu vanaisade ette, ... olgugi need juudid kasvõi 20... ja asutusega neilt, kui ilmselge kahtluseta targematelt inimestelt, austusväärsematelt inimestelt.. küsida, uurida.. ja distantsi hoida (vist) (arvestades, eelarvamusi mis on ju loomulikud nende osas kes pole juudid.. ära teenitud eelarvamused..)
et kui tihti, kus ja millised meie Eesti kristlikud kogukonnad, on teinud neid rännakuid, et õppida Neilt?
Alles siis me hakkame ju aru saama.. mis on need meie tegelikud õpetused, millest oleks kasu Juudil.
Sest kas ta kohustatud Sind õpetama? Vot... natukene vist küll, aga see kohustus rakendub siis kui seda osata õigesti küsida.
Ja kas me teame, kus on õige juut? Kas Eino Baskin oli? Kas on see meie semiootik? .... kas kui õiged nad ikka on.. kuidas me teame, üldse, milline on päris juut kui me pole selgeks algselt õppinud, milline on päris juudi mõtlemine? .. See ongi üks Kristlaste supper oskusi ma usun..et meil on peaaegu võimalik tunnetada, seda õiget maailma tunnetust (ja sinna juurde veel Valge inimesena, Eestlasena mõelda mis kasu siis oli Jumalal sellest Kreeka mõttemaailmast siia lasta? Mida meil neilt õppida? Ja mida õppida Aasia ja Aafrika ja Ladina Ameerika rahvastelt ning indiaanlstelt? Ega jumal siis pole loonud, miskit ühe ülbalist maailma ainult, meid õnnistatud Eest-lusega, ja vast on meil libatud määrata ja kaaluda väärtusi, seni kuni seda Jumala silmis kõige targemalt teeme, õppides nii samaanidelt, nõidadelt kui ka labori teadlastelt.. piisavalt, et ära hoida nende kõigi omavaheleine lõplik kokkupõrge ... sest neil kõige elementaarne, omades ise alkeemilisi teadmisi, lihtne teadmine oli puudu: See elu siin on mehe ja naise kooslus, kus mees peaks nägema naise Silmis seda mida jumal on talle andnud, kui ta näeb vähimat kui Jumala Tütart, siis pole mõtet ka sellele naisele veel minna.. siis solvad nii jumalat kui naist, ja naist solvates oled veel topelt häda kaela saanud lisaks haiget tegemisele. On ju selge, et Juudi mehed just selle pärast, Naistele vajaliku ehitasid alati enne kui Pühakoja. )
... et jah... hoida meeles.. siis... et see kes kõige enne kõige targemaks saab Jumala loodu osas kuikogukond.. tema läbi ka kõik korda aetakse. Jumala ei koonda kellegi vastu vägesi, sest see oleks kui heina kõrte vastu saata mägesi... vaid ta soovib iga hinge tekitatud kooslused, nii hästi tema enda tarkuste ja arusaamade piires, õiges suunas jumalat teenima panna kui võimalik, nii, et jookskugi ta paljalt libahuntidega kuuvalgel või olgu kodututega räästa all või külastagu tumedaid muid maailmasi... senikaua kui on teada, et ta nendes kohtades just seda teeb, mida Jumalale vaja.
//(ehk seni kuni on teada, et ei tee neid rituaale või tegusi, mis hinge kahjustavad))//
See peaks olema ammu selge, et ainult hea on hävinenud kellegi vastu minnes, ... minnakse vastu... sõtta.. nagu unustaksime ära kes me sõber on... ja kes soovib, et me tarkuse ja sõnaga.. kõik teod õigeks seaksime.
Oeh.. miks peab Kristlastele, kõigist inimestest, rääkima ja proovida seletada seda nii lihtsalt ja elementaarset?http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Aleph-Bet/Ayin/ayin.html
29 March 2015 21:38
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's post.
Oh.. i have no bandwith left to see this, but it sounds true also (but just to keep in mind.. the propacanda is in all sides..)
29 March 2015 20:57
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Vooglaid's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ja siis kui Sellest oleme kristlastena aru saanud, siis alles, võime vaikselt vabandades, mainida. et meil ka midagi õpetada..29 March 2015 20:50
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Vooglaid's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ju need juudid teavad ikka paremini, kes kuidas risti pandi ja kuidas mingid asjad kuhu kirja said... ja ju need paganad, kellel Jumala juurde otse tee eri taimede kaudu.. on ikka näinud piisavalt, et naerda välja inimesed kes kuulutavad risti kuid ilmselgelt pole nad näpuotsaga hauatagust oma silmaga isegi näinud29 March 2015 20:49
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Vooglaid's post.
Group: Kristlased
Just, kuid seda kõike mida Marko Seitse ütles, tuleb veel omakorda sedasi vaadata, et Juutidel on õigus ja paganatel on põhjust29 March 2015 20:48
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Vooglaid's post.
Group: Kristlased
Hästi oluline, Hästi Hästi oluline on Mõelda mitte KREEKA läbi vaid Heebria maailma vaate läbi, et tunnetada seda mis on.
Meie ise oleme suures osas selles maailmas nagunii Kreeka-Rooma valmis keedetud lapsed, kellel aint läbi meie enda Ugri juurte tõde kuskil kummitab kes pole loobunud.
Asi pole Ainult keeles, väliselt, vaid ka selles, et KOGU mõtlemise alg protsess on Kreeka koolisüsteemi pärast suurel osal inimestel midagi hoopis jumala vastast.
Enamusel maailmast on Kommunistlik kooli süsteem kui otse väljendada, selle pärast on ka praeguste Punaste (need kes soovivad maailma vangis hoida) vastu "võtimemine" täiesti naeruväärne ja võimatu,
Nad pikalt ette naeravad, sest juba sedasi mõeldes, kuidas nad meid sundinud on mõtlema, me oleme ette kaotanud
Ja neid tööriistu ja tehnikaid mida nad ise meile õpetanud, neid nende vastu kasutades ilma muud tõde teadmata, nad naeravad veelgi rohkem ja oskavad ka vabalt ette plaanida kust kuhu me läheme ja mida me teeme, väga pika aja vältel.
Või noh.. inimese mõistes pika.. meil valimised ju siin iga 4 aasta takka käivad.. kujutage ette.. iga 4 aasta tagant.. mis komejant see on ?29 March 2015 20:42
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Vooglaid's post.
Group: Kristlased
ma pigem soovitan, täiesti ainult Eesti, Heebria ja lisaks maailma ühendamise tarvis, Inglise keele peale keskenduda alguses29 March 2015 20:36
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Vooglaid's post.
Group: Kristlased
Hakatakse siin kes teab mis keeli võrdlema JUMALA RAHAVA keeltega; Vaadake mis Tähendused on IGA TÄHE märgi kohta:
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Aleph-Bet/Yod/yod.html
EHk siis inimene peaks teadma NII "Pictiogrammy" (tähe pilt tähendust), sõna müstilist tähendust, käsukirjas kasutatavana ja kuidas see täht millise tähega loob mida... ja siis sellest edasi hakata lugema mida tähendavad asjad mis kirja pandudhttp://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Aleph-Bet/Yod/yod.html
29 March 2015 20:07
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Vooglaid's post.
Group: Kristlased
Enne kui hakkakte KREEKA keelseid asju uurima, pidage meeles, et see KREEKA oli kõige Jumala vastasem rüvedus kes Sünnitas Rooma kes meid siiamaani karjatada proovib koos Viikingite liiduga, allmaailmaga.
Jeesus Kristuse arusaamad on nii ära pehmendatud, kuni sinna maani, et ta suvaline liberaalist homo on osade kirikute arvates, kes oma isa kurja käe vastast "uuendust" tooma tuli. + veel need aru saamad, et ta sama hea kui Jumal või, et temast võib teha iidoli kellest plärada pidevalt, tõesti tõesti ma ütlen teile, selle nägemisest on siiber.
Tuleb otse Jumalast ja Jumalast otse rääkida ja käituda Jumala sõbrale väärikalt,29 March 2015 19:59
Margus Meigo commented on Jevgeni Krishtafovitsh's post.
Dürmolt MetsMeigas : Hea on kõik mis paranduse suunas ja halb see mis seda suunda aeglustada proovib.
(oi tere meidgas.. mind ka sedasi kutsuti nooruses :p )
(oi tere meidgas.. mind ka sedasi kutsuti nooruses :p )
29 March 2015 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Small bits about brix http://web-history.blogspot.com/2015/03/brics-enlightening-dark-age-putin-china.html
http://web-history.blogspot.com/2015/03/brics-enlightening-dark-age-putin-china.html
28 March 2015 22:36
Margus Meigo commented on Jevgeni Krishtafovitsh's post.
Muidu ära nii madalaks tehke ja hakake suis narrusi enda kohta rääkima mainides piiblit
kuid endal igasugune arusaam puudub mis on see ja milleks.
Ükski tark inimene, kes päris standardi järgi on tark, ei saa kommenteerida piiblit muus kui heas võtmes, see on juba ammu, aasta tuhandete jooksul selgeks tehtud.
kuid endal igasugune arusaam puudub mis on see ja milleks.
Ükski tark inimene, kes päris standardi järgi on tark, ei saa kommenteerida piiblit muus kui heas võtmes, see on juba ammu, aasta tuhandete jooksul selgeks tehtud.
28 March 2015 22:23
Margus Meigo commented on Jevgeni Krishtafovitsh's post.
Mul on ka Eestikeelne koopia olemas : )
28 March 2015 22:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" ..However, the habit to control is very strong. In the past 5 years supervisory agencies made proposals regarding 6 million planned and over 200 thousand snap, unscheduled inspections. Only half of them were sanctioned by the Prosecutor’s Office and found reasonable."
I would like to focus on the topic of protecting the rights of economic entities. We have been doing a lot lately to remove administrative barriers for businesses, to relieve them of excessive attention on the part of supervisory agencies. In 2014, prosecutors have revealed and curtailed over 143 thousand violations of the laws protecting entrepreneurs’ rights. "
Vladim,
http://eng.special.kremlin.ru/transcripts/23755
March 24, 2015
I would like to focus on the topic of protecting the rights of economic entities. We have been doing a lot lately to remove administrative barriers for businesses, to relieve them of excessive attention on the part of supervisory agencies. In 2014, prosecutors have revealed and curtailed over 143 thousand violations of the laws protecting entrepreneurs’ rights. "
Vladim,
http://eng.special.kremlin.ru/transcripts/23755
March 24, 2015
http://eng.special.kremlin.ru/transcripts/23755
28 March 2015 17:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vladim: " Even a very brief overview of what you are doing speaks to the fact that in essence, there are no limitations in how it can be applied; these limitations simply do not exist. And I certainly agree with those of you who stated that soon, the impact of these technologies – if, of course, we use them wisely – will be simply colossal. It will certainly be a colossal development resource for us and for our nation, first and foremost, because thankfully, we have the essential foundations."
http://eng.special.kremlin.ru/transcripts/23779
March 27, 2015, 16:10, Novo-Ogaryovo
Vladim: " I know that you have done interesting work with very useful practical applications, and I would like to discuss this with you today.
Which of you was it who worked on large waves and tsunamis? This is certainly a fascinating field and, most importantly, it has practical dimensions. The same goes for the research on DNA. This kind of work that is related to people’s health will, as I understand it, enable us to make new breakthroughs in medicines for fighting malignant tumours and tumours in general, and this is very practical work, very important. The same goes for the work that was done in a field that will strengthen our defence capability. In short, I want to congratulate you all. "
http://eng.special.kremlin.ru/transcripts/23769
March 25, 2015, 15:10, The Kremlin
http://eng.special.kremlin.ru/transcripts/23779
March 27, 2015, 16:10, Novo-Ogaryovo
Vladim: " I know that you have done interesting work with very useful practical applications, and I would like to discuss this with you today.
Which of you was it who worked on large waves and tsunamis? This is certainly a fascinating field and, most importantly, it has practical dimensions. The same goes for the research on DNA. This kind of work that is related to people’s health will, as I understand it, enable us to make new breakthroughs in medicines for fighting malignant tumours and tumours in general, and this is very practical work, very important. The same goes for the work that was done in a field that will strengthen our defence capability. In short, I want to congratulate you all. "
http://eng.special.kremlin.ru/transcripts/23769
March 25, 2015, 15:10, The Kremlin
http://eng.special.kremlin.ru/transcripts/23779
28 March 2015 17:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vladimir Putin received in the Kremlin Director of the General Office of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China Li Zhanshu.
PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA VLADIMIR PUTIN: Comrades, friends, good afternoon. I am very happy to see you in Moscow.
I believe it is very good that good working relations are developing between the Presidential Executive Office of Russia and the General Office of the Communist Party of China. This gives up hope, because there is more specific work being done, and a lot depends on how the executive offices operate.
I know that you maintain regular contacts with our great friend, my big personal friend – Chairman Xi Jinping. Please convey my best wishes to him and remind him that we expect to see him in Moscow for the celebration of the 70th anniversary of Victory in World War II.
Reply:
GENERAL OFFICE OF THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY CENTRAL COMMITTEE LI ZHANSHU (retranslated): Mr President, thank you very much for finding the time to meet with me today.
The fact that your mutual trust is growing stronger and you maintain regular contacts, consultations and cooperation is of great importance for the development and revival of our country, for ensuring peace and stability in the world at large.
I have counted – in the past 2 years you and Chairman Xi Jinping met 8 times, had 4 telephone conversations and exchanged letters more than 30 times. You have reached many agreements to develop cooperation between our two countries and generally to develop relations between China and Russia, and together you have brought our relations to a new stage and achieved new results. This year you are to have numerous meetings, both bilateral and within international events.
In this context, I would like to assure you that my office as well as the Executive Office of the President of Russia would both work to ensure that these meetings of the two leaders are held properly, at the highest possible level. We will do everything for this.
As you may know, Mr President, the Chinese Communist Party Central Committee administration has never before had any contacts with the executive offices of foreign presidents. The regular contacts we have established with Mr Ivanov [Chief of Staff of Presidential Executive Office] is a unique development in our relations. It is thanks to you and Chairman Xi Jinping that we have managed to lay the foundation of these new relations.
http://eng.special.kremlin.ru/transcripts/23734
PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA VLADIMIR PUTIN: Comrades, friends, good afternoon. I am very happy to see you in Moscow.
I believe it is very good that good working relations are developing between the Presidential Executive Office of Russia and the General Office of the Communist Party of China. This gives up hope, because there is more specific work being done, and a lot depends on how the executive offices operate.
I know that you maintain regular contacts with our great friend, my big personal friend – Chairman Xi Jinping. Please convey my best wishes to him and remind him that we expect to see him in Moscow for the celebration of the 70th anniversary of Victory in World War II.
Reply:
GENERAL OFFICE OF THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY CENTRAL COMMITTEE LI ZHANSHU (retranslated): Mr President, thank you very much for finding the time to meet with me today.
The fact that your mutual trust is growing stronger and you maintain regular contacts, consultations and cooperation is of great importance for the development and revival of our country, for ensuring peace and stability in the world at large.
I have counted – in the past 2 years you and Chairman Xi Jinping met 8 times, had 4 telephone conversations and exchanged letters more than 30 times. You have reached many agreements to develop cooperation between our two countries and generally to develop relations between China and Russia, and together you have brought our relations to a new stage and achieved new results. This year you are to have numerous meetings, both bilateral and within international events.
In this context, I would like to assure you that my office as well as the Executive Office of the President of Russia would both work to ensure that these meetings of the two leaders are held properly, at the highest possible level. We will do everything for this.
As you may know, Mr President, the Chinese Communist Party Central Committee administration has never before had any contacts with the executive offices of foreign presidents. The regular contacts we have established with Mr Ivanov [Chief of Staff of Presidential Executive Office] is a unique development in our relations. It is thanks to you and Chairman Xi Jinping that we have managed to lay the foundation of these new relations.
http://eng.special.kremlin.ru/transcripts/23734
http://eng.special.kremlin.ru/transcripts/23734
28 March 2015 17:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuula, mis räägib silmapiir,
kuula, kui kaugele ta viib,
kuula, mis tuulel öelda veel,
kuula.. nüüd.
Vaata, kui pimedus on teel,
oota, neis valgus püsib veel,
kuula, kuis hingab sinu maa,
kuula.. nüüd.
Kuula, mis vaikusesse jäi,
kuula, neid lihtsaid hetki vaid,
sa kuula, ka südamel on hääl.
Kuula, sa vikerkaare häält,
vaata, ja sa peagi näed,
kuula, see elamise laul,
kuula.. vaid.
Kuula, mis vaikusesse jäi,
kuula, neid lihtsaid hetki vaid,
sa kuula, ka südamel on hääl.
Varjudesse tee on mööda läind,
ma vaatan ja otsin ikka veel,
on vaikusel see võim - heliseda
sind ma ootan siin, kus poolel teel,
sa kuula, hüüdmas on mu hääl.
Kuula, mis vaikusesse jäi,
kuula, neid lihtsaid hetki vaid,
sa kuula,mu südamel on hääl.
Kuula, mis räägib silmapiir,
kuula, kui kaugele ta viib,
kuula, mis tuulel öelda veel,
kuula.. nüüd..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOxeau3ipR8
kuid noh... mis siin ikka kuulata..
kuula, kui kaugele ta viib,
kuula, mis tuulel öelda veel,
kuula.. nüüd.
Vaata, kui pimedus on teel,
oota, neis valgus püsib veel,
kuula, kuis hingab sinu maa,
kuula.. nüüd.
Kuula, mis vaikusesse jäi,
kuula, neid lihtsaid hetki vaid,
sa kuula, ka südamel on hääl.
Kuula, sa vikerkaare häält,
vaata, ja sa peagi näed,
kuula, see elamise laul,
kuula.. vaid.
Kuula, mis vaikusesse jäi,
kuula, neid lihtsaid hetki vaid,
sa kuula, ka südamel on hääl.
Varjudesse tee on mööda läind,
ma vaatan ja otsin ikka veel,
on vaikusel see võim - heliseda
sind ma ootan siin, kus poolel teel,
sa kuula, hüüdmas on mu hääl.
Kuula, mis vaikusesse jäi,
kuula, neid lihtsaid hetki vaid,
sa kuula,mu südamel on hääl.
Kuula, mis räägib silmapiir,
kuula, kui kaugele ta viib,
kuula, mis tuulel öelda veel,
kuula.. nüüd..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOxeau3ipR8
kuid noh... mis siin ikka kuulata..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOxeau3ipR8
28 March 2015 06:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.I spoke to God today, and she said that she's ashamed.
What have I become, what have I done?
I spoke to the Devil today, and he swears he's not to blame.
And I understood, cause I feel the same.
Arms wide open, I stand alone.
I'm no hero, and I'm not made of stone.
Right or wrong, I can hardly tell.
I'm on the wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
The wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side, righteous side of hell.
I heard from God today, and she sounded just like me.
What have I done, and who have I become.
I saw the Devil today, and he looked a lot like me.
I looked away, I turned away!
Arms wide open, I stand alone.
I'm no hero, and I'm not made of stone.
Right or wrong, I can hardly tell.
I'm on the wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
The wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side, the righteous side of hell.
I'm not defending, downward descending,
Falling further and further away!
Getting closer every day!
I'm getting closer every day, to the end.
To the end, the end, the end,
I'm getting closer every day!
Arms wide open, I stand alone.
I'm no hero, and I'm not made of stone.
Right or wrong, I can hardly tell.
I'm on the wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
The wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
The wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side, the righteous side of hell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_l4Ab5FRwM
What have I become, what have I done?
I spoke to the Devil today, and he swears he's not to blame.
And I understood, cause I feel the same.
Arms wide open, I stand alone.
I'm no hero, and I'm not made of stone.
Right or wrong, I can hardly tell.
I'm on the wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
The wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side, righteous side of hell.
I heard from God today, and she sounded just like me.
What have I done, and who have I become.
I saw the Devil today, and he looked a lot like me.
I looked away, I turned away!
Arms wide open, I stand alone.
I'm no hero, and I'm not made of stone.
Right or wrong, I can hardly tell.
I'm on the wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
The wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side, the righteous side of hell.
I'm not defending, downward descending,
Falling further and further away!
Getting closer every day!
I'm getting closer every day, to the end.
To the end, the end, the end,
I'm getting closer every day!
Arms wide open, I stand alone.
I'm no hero, and I'm not made of stone.
Right or wrong, I can hardly tell.
I'm on the wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
The wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side of hell.
The wrong side of heaven, and the righteous side, the righteous side of hell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_l4Ab5FRwM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_l4Ab5FRwM
28 March 2015 06:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So when normal human opposes zombi nation box gray desing with no soul, it is called "elitist" as a bad thing, really?
"The Prince of Wales has occasionally written about architectural projects that utilise styles that he is aesthetically opposed to, such as modernism and functionalism.[13][14][15] In 2009 the Prince wrote to the Qatari royal family, the developers of the Chelsea Barracks site in west London, labelling architect Richard Rogers's design for the site "unsuitable" and the plans "a gigantic experiment with the very soul of our capital city"
Rogers claimed the Prince had also intervened to block his designs for the Royal Opera House and Paternoster Square, and condemned Charles's actions as "an abuse of power" and "unconstitutional".[16] Lord Foster, Zaha Hadid, Jacques Herzog, Jean Nouvel, Renzo Piano, and Frank Gehry, among others, wrote a letter to The Sunday Times complaining that the Prince's "private comments" and "behind-the-scenes lobbying" subverted the "open and democratic planning process".[14] Piers Gough and other architects condemned Charles's views as "elitist" in a letter encouraging colleagues to boycott a speech given by the Prince to RIBA in 2009
this kind of protesters, should be removed as to retarded to have an oppinion, there is great pratforms to solve these problems, to get beauty and intelligence running again as should
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1407953/Prince-Charles-tells-Blair-Farmers-are-being-treated-worse-than-blacks-or-gays.html
"The Prince of Wales has occasionally written about architectural projects that utilise styles that he is aesthetically opposed to, such as modernism and functionalism.[13][14][15] In 2009 the Prince wrote to the Qatari royal family, the developers of the Chelsea Barracks site in west London, labelling architect Richard Rogers's design for the site "unsuitable" and the plans "a gigantic experiment with the very soul of our capital city"
Rogers claimed the Prince had also intervened to block his designs for the Royal Opera House and Paternoster Square, and condemned Charles's actions as "an abuse of power" and "unconstitutional".[16] Lord Foster, Zaha Hadid, Jacques Herzog, Jean Nouvel, Renzo Piano, and Frank Gehry, among others, wrote a letter to The Sunday Times complaining that the Prince's "private comments" and "behind-the-scenes lobbying" subverted the "open and democratic planning process".[14] Piers Gough and other architects condemned Charles's views as "elitist" in a letter encouraging colleagues to boycott a speech given by the Prince to RIBA in 2009
this kind of protesters, should be removed as to retarded to have an oppinion, there is great pratforms to solve these problems, to get beauty and intelligence running again as should
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1407953/Prince-Charles-tells-Blair-Farmers-are-being-treated-worse-than-blacks-or-gays.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1407953/Prince-Charles-tells-Blair-Farmers-are-being-treated-worse-than-blacks-or-gays.html
27 March 2015 23:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Charles wrote regularly to Blair and they would meet at least four times a year when Blair was Prime Minister.[1] It was said that the Lord Chancellor, Lord Irvine, had complained "bitterly" about being "bombarded" by letters from Charles, but this was denied by Irvine.[1] Letters to Irvine in June 2001 had complained about the Human Rights Act and were critical of the "degree to which our lives are becoming ruled by a truly absurd degree of politically correct interference".[6] Charles also complained to Irvine that the United Kingdom was "sliding inexorably down the slope of ever increasing, petty-minded litigiousness" and wrote in 2002 about "ever-more prescriptive laws - for example, health and safety at work legislation, the blame culture...and the bureaucratic red tape which accompanies new rules"
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/26/supreme-court-clears-way-release-secret-prince-charles-letters-black-spider-memos
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/26/supreme-court-clears-way-release-secret-prince-charles-letters-black-spider-memos
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/26/supreme-court-clears-way-release-secret-prince-charles-letters-black-spider-memos
27 March 2015 23:16
Margus Meigo commented on Agilite Tactical Gear's video.
THis is the most perfect symbol of TIE real meaning, i have ever seen
27 March 2015 22:12
Margus Meigo commented on Anti Teraväe's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kes on Zhenja?
Krishtafovitsh ? Nu ta peaks selle Vabaerakonna lipulaevadest üks olema keda telekas Eestlased ise "putini" video pärast promosid, vaadates paar postitust üles on postimehe artikkel ja veel mõnelt lehelt ning siis ajast ette minnes vaadates ta toetust millistele maailma vaadetele.. et siin näha jah, et kellgi sõber on ja need ameeriklased ei tundu olema
minu jaoks on natsid kommunistide väike ajutine tööriist mida tekitatakse kui alkoholi ja seksi uimaga orjasi vabatahtlikult enam ohjas hoida ei saa27 March 2015 21:23
Margus Meigo commented on Anti Teraväe's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Maris mina külvan "risu" ? Hmm.. tere tali
Räägib naine, (vist oled eks?) kes oma esimeseks kommentaariks siia, postitas "wtf"
väga sügavalt Eestimeelne ja edasi arendav väljendus Mari, äitah27 March 2015 20:49
Margus Meigo commented on Anti Teraväe's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Jevgeni polnud eriti positivselt te osas melestatud etise vastama tulla ja ütles "Jevgeni Krishtafovitsh:
Tere! EKRE sõprade klubisse ma kirjutama ei hakka, sest ei pea ennast natside sõbraks. Kuid milles on küsimus, konkreetselt? Kaks tärni on seotud Varro Vooglaiu ja SAPTK kampaaniaga."
Ma ei tea mis asi see SAPTK kampaania isegi on, kuid eks ma googleda.27 March 2015 20:46
Margus Meigo commented on Anti Teraväe's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
MIda te nüüd siin teete nalja, Sina ka Neeme,
Küsimus oli selge, ju mile osas SEE postitus siin EI olnud lõppenud sest vastust ei antud, ehk siis:
LIhtne JAH või EI vastus, ... 1) kas siis see Margus Leivo on/oli EKREst?
2) Kas Margus Leivo Vene meedias rääkis nendel teemadel?
3) Kas Margus Leivo ütles, et ta selle maha võtnudon
ja poonus küsimus
4) Kas Margus Leivo peaks vabandama oma välja öeldu/ tehtu pärast?27 March 2015 20:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Palun palun Kalmer,
Peaksingi tegelikult muid asju toimetama, kuid eks see ka .. kui kasvõi ühele inimesele kunagi kohale jõuab, siis on asi seda väärt.
Ja tõepoolest, ära muretse mu sõnastuse, vaid sõnade osas.
Pühalikku pühapäeva algust27 March 2015 20:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Illmar, see tundub vaimukas Sinu vaimus olevatele inimestele mis räägid, kuid see lause pole midagi originaalset ega uut, sest seda on kasutatud ja kasutatakse ka tulevikus, sellistes olukordades kus " sa purjus! ...aa... ei joo? .. nui sis peab olema viga selles, et ei joo, et siis joo"
See pole midagi uut, see on vaimu sisse pandud juba enne Sinu sündi, need sõnad ja käitumise normid.
Eriti sama värvi on kõik need inimesed, kes oma arust üritavad erilised ja originaalsed olla - sest ka see on haigus mida müüakse ja promotakse, see totrus, et sa oled isiksus ja eraldi teistest... (nu ja siis sünnid kah.. eraldi.. ja elad oma naisega... eraldi... ja ei tunne seda tunnet eriti tithi, kus Su pere, sõbrad ja maa on OTSESELT Sinu südamesõbrad, keda ALATI ilma mõtlemata, saad 100% usaldada kõiges, ennast pimesi Sülle visates kui vaja... see on normaalne, elementaarne teadvus, milles tegelikult elama peaksime, ja saame elada,... mitte ei peaks seda "usalduse programmi" miskil hippi esoteerika kokkusaamistel müüma inimestele, et nad õndsust tunneksid mõned minutid või aja.. ilma suunata, kuidas seda päriselt ise tekitada ja hoida. Ma tegelen ikka selega, kuidas me ise enda liiki, aegade lõpuni saame otseselt paremaks muuta, teadlikult, iga generatsiooniga (arvestades kõike neid muid kolle, kellest rääkinud))27 March 2015 20:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ja ma tõepoolest, ei plaani kunagi ka hakata jooma, ega suitsu tarbima, sest tulemus on ju näha... ma väga selgelt näinud, et teatud sorti sarnane vildakas mõtlemine on pea kõigil (väikese erinevusega osad vanainimesed) kes neid ained vabatahtlikult lubavad teistel tarbida, arvates, et "see nende enda asi"
ehk siis ei saada aru, et me üks pere, üks liik .. ja mis on liigikaaslasele paha on ka Sulle.. lihtsast asjast ei taheta ka aru saada
sama käib ka valetamise ja selle "mingi punt mingi pundi vastu" ideoloogia kohta, mis greeka-rooma homodelt meile pähe taotud suures osas.27 March 2015 20:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Võin ausalt öelda, aastaid juba ei tunne himu alkoholide ja nikotiinide jms osas, peale seda kui selgeks sai, mida need inimkonnale toodavad seega kes nad siia ja miks tõid.
Ka Maarjamaa polnud laus joodikutest (kes iga kuu joovad) koosnev vanasti, kuid peale seda pentagrammi otsest tunda saamist, orjatööd ja "sõbralikku" viina lohutust.. see tootis laste generatsiooni, kes usub tõsimeeli, et teismelisena ongi normaalne juua ning täiskasvanuna on vaimuterve olla spordist sõltuvuses rohkem kui laste kasvatusest südame suunas27 March 2015 20:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Enamus tipud ei saagi kuni elu lõpuni aru saama, kas nad tipud või kellegi tibud, või lausa libud27 March 2015 20:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Padu Kadu Reptiilid ja keemia pilved on lapse teema (kui neid eraldi võtta murena), tõsistes valdkondades pole keegi paranoiline nende asjade osas vaid võtavad nii kuidas on, sõja olukorrana. Rahulikult.
Ning eks see suur laimu kampaania "reptiilide" vastu ... eks seda ka näha millised keskkonad seda jagavad enamasti.. nad enamasti pentagrammi mõttemaailma täis, sellised Alex Jonesi ja ära reisinud ainete, vaimumaailma segadustes inimeste vahepealsed kommuunid.
Meil on omal inimesed otse ühenduses kes on otse ühenduses, kuid see ei tähenda, et SELLISED asjad peaksid optimismiks põhjust andma, see inimloomaae
reptiilid keda mina kohanud olen on küll väga sõbralikud ja sooja südamega, kuigi sutsu heatahtlikult üleolevad inimeste suhtes, sest inimesed on ülbed, ükskõiksed, ahned ja kadedad ning muutuvad kurjaks ka veel kui neile head tahtes nende halbasi harjumusi milles nad vangis on, kui neid harjumusi tahad hakata neilt ära võtma.
Samas eks muidugi, võib ju küsida, kas KÕIK need patendid (need avalikud, vanad, tavalised patendid, see suur list sellel lehel) http://www.wakingtimes.com/2015/01/28/indisputable-database-chemtrail-deniers/ - et kas neil ka ainult inimliigile ja loodusele kasulik kasutus on, eriti kui nad patenteeritud sõjatööstuse heaks toimetavate teadlaste poolt. ...kuid noh, nagu ma ütlesin, see list patentidest (leht ise näeb juba välja!) ... see on kõigest enamuses ühe maa, avalik teave.. mida viitsitud kokku panna millionite patentide seast..http://www.wakingtimes.com/2015/01/28/indisputable-database-chemtrail-deniers/
27 March 2015 20:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Te ei saa õige mees ega naiskonnana toimima, kui klammerdate ennast teatud tippude külge ja siis ise ei oska toimida...
jah, kui tegu oleks Kuninga võimuga, siis rahval tõesti, teatud väärtuste tasemel on õigus alluda ja kummardada ühte isikut ja tema tarkade nõukogu kuid see kuningas teab ka, et tema võim saab ainult siis olema mõtekas,
kui ta rahvas kohe nagu mitme peaga lohe, ilma suurema mureta täielikus kooskõlas on järgmine hommik endiselt toimetamas kui koorekihil pea maha võeti eelmine päev, kohe teatakse ka erinevaid režiime, kas toimetada varjus, avalikult, ühtses heasuunalises teeskluses ausalt edasi või kuidas - ilma suurte nõupidamiste ja koosolekuteta.
Need uued võimud kes siin seda maailmaasja arutama hakkavad, nad on üle seaduste, ja kui nad soovivad saavad nad ka seaduse piires tehtud üks null millisele iganes argumendile mis ei põhine loodusel,
sest nad teavad kohtute ja sõnade rituaalide Tegelike tagamaid (ka seda, et nendesse astuja, on juba ainuüksi selles osaledes alamklass) ja lisaks üli võimule mis praegused silme ees olevad sõjavõimud kahvatuma panevad, on neil ka headuse ja tarkuse võim.. mis iga inimteaduse tippust nii psühholoogia kui ajalo osas just need valikud kiirelt oskab valida mida sellel hetkel vaja läheb
(no juba inimestele endale ka, see arvuti teadvus ehitatud siin NSA ja Google abil üks.. millese kogu internetis räägitud vestlused, sh "privaatsed" emailid ka "kalkulatsiooni" võetakse .. jah, ja seda ressurssi neil on.. )
Seda ikka, teame, et elektroonikas ei ole ühtegi asja olemas, mis on privaatne, ja on virtuaalselt võimatu teha privaatset kohtumist ajastul, kus väga odav on juba kärbse suuruste orgaaniliste lendavate robotitega keda iganes jälgida, lihtsalt selleks, et nende inimestega seotud sõnade baasi täiendada, sest see on väga väike kulu selle maailma tegeliku võimu jaoks, iga inimese tegemisi nii helis kui pildis (ja heli tekstiks ja eri emotsiooni toonides otsitavaks muuta).
DARPA avalikud programmid on siin osad, mis tava inimestele toimetamiseks ja kaasa arendamiseks mõeldud: http://www.darpa.mil/opencatalog/ (ja kui oskate nende asjade TÄIS ühendatud potentsiaali ette kujutada.. siis saage aru, et see on alles algus, elementaarne tava tase, millega inimesi kurssi viia proovitaks, et nad rakendada peenema tehnoloogia taha, selle inimloomaaia ja teadvuse arendamise programmis, kelle lõpp misjoon tundub olema, saada aru armastusest)http://www.darpa.mil/opencatalog/
27 March 2015 20:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Jah, ma väga kursis olen nende manipulatsioonidega hinge tasandil, kuid alles hakkan olema täielikult kuna see üks mu eriala meeldimistest. Ja kelle kasuks siis, ehk selgitad?
Ja kui Sa päriselt aru saad, mida tahendab šamanism, siis lisa ka see oma arvestusse, et kelle poolt ja kes ja miks.
Mina olen selle poolel, kes selle Looduse siin valmis tegi ja kui saab ilmsiks, et see on keegi muu, kui see kes inimese idee taga on siis siinkohal tuleb teha väikseid ümberkorraldusi, kuid mitte väga palju.
Need on mastaabid, mille piires minusugused mõtlevad. Ja millised iganes agentuurid on kelle taskus on teisejärguline, sest lõpude lõpuks jääb ainuke valik teenida selliselt ja neid keda ma soovitanud soojalt olen,
see pole mingi võimu tripp, vaid tuleb võtta asju reaalselt, selliselt nagu need on on ehk osade asjade osas teada kuid eriti lihtne on teada kuidas EI ole ja kuidas EI ole vaja... ja te kahjuks, arvestades kogu kosmose poliitikat, liialt palju liivakasti tasemel väliselt teete selliselt kuidas ei ole vaja.
Te peate igaüks ise saama võimekaks ja loobuma hirmust, et kui üks või teine pea loobub, siis on lips läbi (vaat kus ütlus... lips läbi.. te ikka teate, et ei ole eriti võimalik olla päris "õige asja eest" julgelt väljas ja samal ajal lipsu kanda, eks ?)27 March 2015 19:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Psühholoogiliselt on ammu paika pandud teie küpsus ja see on väga väga teismelise tasemel, sest ei taheta mõista ministri tooli olulisusest ja samas ei taheta aru saada, et suurem osa asju ei juhtu lipsuga kaamerate ees poliitiliselt korrektselt ettekirjutatud juttu rääkides (mida te arvate, et "ise" välja mõtlesite, kuid inimeste ja inimgruppide mõtete suunamiseks, on hoopis muud tehnoloogiad, et teid kandoomina kasutada saaks, pannes rääkima just neid lauseid mida teistel vaja ja siis te ise veel üli rahul ja õnnelikud, et just selle peeru vala saite lasta mida kaua aega küpsetatud olite. unustatakse aga uurida kuidas ja miks just need kasutud ideed teie erakonna põhi jututeemaks ja avalikuks sõnavõtuks kujunenud on. )27 March 2015 19:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Nagu üks vana poliitik ütles : "ekre on erivajadustega partei - puuetega partei, sest nende suhtes ei tohi mitte mingit kriitikat teha. Labiilse närvisüsteemi tõttu võivad teha kollektiivse enesetapu"
Tõepoolest, te olete nagu alla põhikooli tasemes naiivsuselt teatud maailma asjadest arusaamises, ja siis tahte nii olulises riigis kui Eesti, " poliitikat " teha?
Riik, kes oma numbritega suudab mõjutada ameerika ja vene käekäiku (ja kui te seda EI tea siis te ka EI pole aru saanud kellede maal elate).
NIng see mina veel räägin, võttes teid sõbrana, sest nõrku kohti teil liialt palju ja poleks aus maas olijat peksta, või üldse, nüpeldamisest nagu näha, et ei ole ka kasu suurele osale.
Ilmar Vaata asi selles ongi, et ma tegelen rahvaste tunnetamise väga rohujuune, võiks lausa öelda, et seenejuure tasemel ning sellepärast ma ei pane pahaks kui suurele osale Eestist, tundub kogu see EKRE asi olema mingi ERSP koopia komüüse kommunistlikust vene eri teenistujate naljast Eesti rahvuse kallal selle nõrgendamiseks (kasutades ära siiraid inimesi, mida teil palju ja ilusasti tarkasi kes heausklikult ei suudaks näha, et SEDASI kott pähe omade poolt tõmmatud).27 March 2015 19:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
..et noh.. mõlema eri maailma sümbioos, selgem now, panimajesh?
sensativa kil:amnt on the beat
kiviabi in the mix
kungime
Kurinahk:
Produktide jaoks on mul stashboks taskus
kuskil mind näed siis parem maksa maksu
ah jagad matsu, pole vaja kaklust
nii et anna käppa mõne hiti vastu
kaha täida hoolega ja nüüd anna leeki
mis mees sa siis oled kui sa hitti ei teegi
näe pool geed et su bongivesi muliseks
see on sinu huvides piibutoru tuliseks
vahepeal ka nurisen ma vaikselt et saishe
jälle saime vähem nagu laividel maike
kivipea vaidleb siis asi pole maitses
tõsuipea taidleb teeb kurinahk haiget
jälle saand kaineks anna mulle mahvi
hit one two ja bongi lasen lahti
nii puf puf pass ja siin kõik vennad tuttu
pole õhtu veel käes a grill juba kustund
Ref:
kilekotid on täis seda kama täitke oma kahad
vahetage kinni oma väiksemad rahad
ja kui rullida tahad siis ma abistan
dolla dolla bill põllu peal segu valmistan
taskud on täis seda kama täitke oma kahad
vahetage kinni oma väiksemad rahad
ja kui rullida tahad siis ma abistan
dolla dolla bill põllu peal segu valmistan
Seaduskuulekus:
ma tean mis sa teinud oled kui sa ahmid õhku
a minu bongi turbol on 6 bari rõhku
väljas juba õhtu ja ma täidan oma kõhtu
universumiga oma pead olen lõhkund
tahad näha lõppu a see kõik alles algab
teiste arvamuste tõttu loonud endas vangla
kiviabi vabastab hanf kung karastab
siin on see element mis ideedega varustab
trummidega alustab ja mõttejuga voolab
su korgid välja löön kui tahad juua ennast kooma
rooma tagasi rooma jooma,
sind ei koti teadmised sa tahad proovida hoora
ma ei taha sind näha liigun seal kus on pilved
päike teeb ringe ja teadvus on kindel
seaduse silme eest sa midagi ei varja
pane ring käima teeme kõik koos nalja
Ref:
kilekotid on täis seda kama täitke oma kahad
vahetage kinni oma väiksemad rahad
ja kui rullida tahad siis ma abistan
dolla dolla bill põllu peal segu valmistan
taskud on täis seda kama täitke oma kahad
vahetage kinni oma väiksemad rahad
ja kui rullida tahad siis ma abistan
dolla dolla bill põllu peal segu valmistan
Kozinak:
kiffised kotid produktide jaoks
pesemata sokid nuhk-nuhkide jaoks
higised kotid petuhhide jaoks
Lädra võtab peale tuh-tuhhide laost
ta kuskil ei kao ja see muss siin ei kao
kiviabi pakub abi ussidel kaos
ei taha su raha, sa tahad mu kama
ma vaatan üles a sa vaatad maha
ma vaatan ette a sa vaata taha
paaljev kui Ljuljev Inkasso ukse taga
kes paneb peale? Hanf kung on majas
fooliumit sajab La Kotka Nostra kajab
naabrivalve peab ikka veel plaani
"da nu vas nahui stakimi piragami"
kui rullida tahad siis tule sillalt osta
roheline kaart sõidutab La Kotka Nostra
Ref:
uulitsad on täis seda kama täitke oma kahad
vahetage kinni oma väiksemad rahad
ja kui rullida tahad siis ma abistan
dolla dolla bill bitch
vereringlus on täis seda kama täitke oma kahad
vahetage kinni oma väiksemad rahad
ja kui rullida tahad siis ma abistan
dolla dolla bill bitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajBdKUeR4WE
sensativa kil:amnt on the beat
kiviabi in the mix
kungime
Kurinahk:
Produktide jaoks on mul stashboks taskus
kuskil mind näed siis parem maksa maksu
ah jagad matsu, pole vaja kaklust
nii et anna käppa mõne hiti vastu
kaha täida hoolega ja nüüd anna leeki
mis mees sa siis oled kui sa hitti ei teegi
näe pool geed et su bongivesi muliseks
see on sinu huvides piibutoru tuliseks
vahepeal ka nurisen ma vaikselt et saishe
jälle saime vähem nagu laividel maike
kivipea vaidleb siis asi pole maitses
tõsuipea taidleb teeb kurinahk haiget
jälle saand kaineks anna mulle mahvi
hit one two ja bongi lasen lahti
nii puf puf pass ja siin kõik vennad tuttu
pole õhtu veel käes a grill juba kustund
Ref:
kilekotid on täis seda kama täitke oma kahad
vahetage kinni oma väiksemad rahad
ja kui rullida tahad siis ma abistan
dolla dolla bill põllu peal segu valmistan
taskud on täis seda kama täitke oma kahad
vahetage kinni oma väiksemad rahad
ja kui rullida tahad siis ma abistan
dolla dolla bill põllu peal segu valmistan
Seaduskuulekus:
ma tean mis sa teinud oled kui sa ahmid õhku
a minu bongi turbol on 6 bari rõhku
väljas juba õhtu ja ma täidan oma kõhtu
universumiga oma pead olen lõhkund
tahad näha lõppu a see kõik alles algab
teiste arvamuste tõttu loonud endas vangla
kiviabi vabastab hanf kung karastab
siin on see element mis ideedega varustab
trummidega alustab ja mõttejuga voolab
su korgid välja löön kui tahad juua ennast kooma
rooma tagasi rooma jooma,
sind ei koti teadmised sa tahad proovida hoora
ma ei taha sind näha liigun seal kus on pilved
päike teeb ringe ja teadvus on kindel
seaduse silme eest sa midagi ei varja
pane ring käima teeme kõik koos nalja
Ref:
kilekotid on täis seda kama täitke oma kahad
vahetage kinni oma väiksemad rahad
ja kui rullida tahad siis ma abistan
dolla dolla bill põllu peal segu valmistan
taskud on täis seda kama täitke oma kahad
vahetage kinni oma väiksemad rahad
ja kui rullida tahad siis ma abistan
dolla dolla bill põllu peal segu valmistan
Kozinak:
kiffised kotid produktide jaoks
pesemata sokid nuhk-nuhkide jaoks
higised kotid petuhhide jaoks
Lädra võtab peale tuh-tuhhide laost
ta kuskil ei kao ja see muss siin ei kao
kiviabi pakub abi ussidel kaos
ei taha su raha, sa tahad mu kama
ma vaatan üles a sa vaatad maha
ma vaatan ette a sa vaata taha
paaljev kui Ljuljev Inkasso ukse taga
kes paneb peale? Hanf kung on majas
fooliumit sajab La Kotka Nostra kajab
naabrivalve peab ikka veel plaani
"da nu vas nahui stakimi piragami"
kui rullida tahad siis tule sillalt osta
roheline kaart sõidutab La Kotka Nostra
Ref:
uulitsad on täis seda kama täitke oma kahad
vahetage kinni oma väiksemad rahad
ja kui rullida tahad siis ma abistan
dolla dolla bill bitch
vereringlus on täis seda kama täitke oma kahad
vahetage kinni oma väiksemad rahad
ja kui rullida tahad siis ma abistan
dolla dolla bill bitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajBdKUeR4WE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajBdKUeR4WE
27 March 2015 05:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
võrreldes, kes Sellistes probleemides, erinevust ikka näeme kosmilist eks?
Meelteseisundite mäng, aaah kamazutra
Wu-tang. Korgi kiimas, tableti nauding.
Saudi-Araabia stiil, natšalnikute meditsiin.
labidas bagašnikus, illegaalne liin.
Haamer ja vitriin, juveeliäride giljotiin.
Siin kus Siim täidab käske, värske kuniks järskeid
vendi jätkub, seadus paneb näkku.
Kuramuse lubadused, viie tärni mugavused.
need samused savused hämarad nurgatagused.
Kodune keskkond, seltskond kriminaalne.
süüdimatu kaader, agent vaatleb.
Öise tallinna saatel, tütarlaps nõnda lahke,
prokurör kahtleb, terve sahtel, tasumata trahve.
Tõmba ette kardin Barbie, nelikend kraadi Bacardi.
hangeldab ja tarbib, kellel tarvis
veenamiseks karmi kelmuslikku šarmi.
Yo pappi-pappi! snõrr lükkab lappi,
karjub appi, aaa!!! Mida fakki!
Kilekotid taskutes, grammid raskuseks
alguses, astudes, sellel teel,
elu oli hea, võõrast raha sitaks veel,
naine kinni makstud, põlvitas tema ees.
Kraam on kange, ta langes...
Terve menüü erguteid oli peale teind,
tegi lahti oma luugid, nägi neid samuseid,
kaadreid oma elust, see grammilinna melu.
Ta põles, teadlikult iga venna andis üles.
Tallinn-Tartu-Jõhvi, vend läks lõhki,
lasti vabaks ja ta kohe saadi kätte.
Kitsel elu raske, neid samuseid pätte,
nägi. Ta ema nuttis ööd ja päevad läbi,
laipa pole leitud, tõendusmaterjal on hävind.
Suur Papa
Tunnista kanitelli. Käsi väristab telli.
Pöial lõpetab kõne ja kõne lõpetab vendi.
Pendli seistes. Higistab kaloreid eilsest.
Loksutab pudelit veits veel ses kuuekümneseitsmes.
Duhhi oli. Strelkal ta bluffis, kaniitas.
Viitas, et retsidivist niitma hakkab skalpe. Raisk!
Bespridel varitseb, karistab alpe. Raisk!
Kasutab neid viise kalke. Raisk!
Kette, konkse, palke. Raspiraita, davai nah!
Taga pagasiss plastik paika!
Tuul viliseb. Nakollid sinised.
Vaibanuga kõriseb. Tera kõrisse libiseb.
Veri sisiseb. Labidas vajutab nagu naelana.
Eile naeratas Tiiule, täna naeratab kaelaga.
Mine kiirelt . . . silmad nutavad taevasse.
Talv on tulekul aga lumi langeb aeglaselt . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4MolqMHY1k
Meelteseisundite mäng, aaah kamazutra
Wu-tang. Korgi kiimas, tableti nauding.
Saudi-Araabia stiil, natšalnikute meditsiin.
labidas bagašnikus, illegaalne liin.
Haamer ja vitriin, juveeliäride giljotiin.
Siin kus Siim täidab käske, värske kuniks järskeid
vendi jätkub, seadus paneb näkku.
Kuramuse lubadused, viie tärni mugavused.
need samused savused hämarad nurgatagused.
Kodune keskkond, seltskond kriminaalne.
süüdimatu kaader, agent vaatleb.
Öise tallinna saatel, tütarlaps nõnda lahke,
prokurör kahtleb, terve sahtel, tasumata trahve.
Tõmba ette kardin Barbie, nelikend kraadi Bacardi.
hangeldab ja tarbib, kellel tarvis
veenamiseks karmi kelmuslikku šarmi.
Yo pappi-pappi! snõrr lükkab lappi,
karjub appi, aaa!!! Mida fakki!
Kilekotid taskutes, grammid raskuseks
alguses, astudes, sellel teel,
elu oli hea, võõrast raha sitaks veel,
naine kinni makstud, põlvitas tema ees.
Kraam on kange, ta langes...
Terve menüü erguteid oli peale teind,
tegi lahti oma luugid, nägi neid samuseid,
kaadreid oma elust, see grammilinna melu.
Ta põles, teadlikult iga venna andis üles.
Tallinn-Tartu-Jõhvi, vend läks lõhki,
lasti vabaks ja ta kohe saadi kätte.
Kitsel elu raske, neid samuseid pätte,
nägi. Ta ema nuttis ööd ja päevad läbi,
laipa pole leitud, tõendusmaterjal on hävind.
Suur Papa
Tunnista kanitelli. Käsi väristab telli.
Pöial lõpetab kõne ja kõne lõpetab vendi.
Pendli seistes. Higistab kaloreid eilsest.
Loksutab pudelit veits veel ses kuuekümneseitsmes.
Duhhi oli. Strelkal ta bluffis, kaniitas.
Viitas, et retsidivist niitma hakkab skalpe. Raisk!
Bespridel varitseb, karistab alpe. Raisk!
Kasutab neid viise kalke. Raisk!
Kette, konkse, palke. Raspiraita, davai nah!
Taga pagasiss plastik paika!
Tuul viliseb. Nakollid sinised.
Vaibanuga kõriseb. Tera kõrisse libiseb.
Veri sisiseb. Labidas vajutab nagu naelana.
Eile naeratas Tiiule, täna naeratab kaelaga.
Mine kiirelt . . . silmad nutavad taevasse.
Talv on tulekul aga lumi langeb aeglaselt . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4MolqMHY1k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4MolqMHY1k
27 March 2015 05:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Midagi mis rahuldab Vanajumalat
27 March 2015 05:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Well, lets hope by that time intelligence is not measured only, or by at all of Greek-Roman standards "...states may decide to impose measures such as a licensing requirement for having a child, which would only be given to persons of a certain minimum intelligence"
27 March 2015 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aasta siis.. oli 2005
kuni 2007
kuni 2007
27 March 2015 04:39
Margus Meigo commented on Jevgeni Krishtafovitsh's post.
Puhta verelised, puhtameelsed on väga head. Kuid see pole kindel lahendus.
sest jah, eks ikka lõpuks on oluline see millise Vaimu endas esile tuua suudad.. ja mida puhtamas ja kõrgemate loodus lähedamaste ideaalidega need on, seda paremad omadused vaimult edasi kanduvad.
Emajärgne Religioosne Looduslik Aristokraatia oleks ainuke mõeldav valik
sest jah, eks ikka lõpuks on oluline see millise Vaimu endas esile tuua suudad.. ja mida puhtamas ja kõrgemate loodus lähedamaste ideaalidega need on, seda paremad omadused vaimult edasi kanduvad.
Emajärgne Religioosne Looduslik Aristokraatia oleks ainuke mõeldav valik
27 March 2015 04:33
Margus Meigo commented on Anti Teraväe's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Proovin Jevgeni ka siia vestlusesse kutsuda,
NIng need viisnurgad.. node pentagrammide suunas mul viimasel ajal eriti suur eelarvamus olnud
https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-1/p148x148/14618_10204535995893637_1575550309351418948_n.jpg?oh=0fb4f8a3f34e4699468e12684a9c9996&oe=55B13E80&__gda__=1437443846_d4332d97f3d72fc302e792e1125c2d2f
Kuid jah, Лейво Маргус küsimus siis kõigepealt, oli ta või ei ?https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-1/p148x148/14618_10204535995893637_1575550309351418948_n.jpg?oh=0fb4f8a3f34e4699468e12684a9c9996&oe=55B13E80&__gda__=1437443846_d4332d97f3d72fc302e792e1125c2d2f
27 March 2015 04:23
Margus Meigo commented on Anti Teraväe's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ja ks me mitte ei tea kõik, et kui oleks lastud vene provokaatoril see lõhkuda siis oleks rahva vaen suur tulnud ja pikaajaline, seda ei saanud lasta neil teha. Siin tuli provokaatorile alluda, eriti kuna kapo teadis vist kellega kes seotud on
http://www.postimees.ee/1429283/kodanik-lubab-lohkuda-lihula-monumendi
http://uudised.err.ee/v/72c477e1-3c45-45d0-9c22-1cc4d4233d73
http://w3.ee/openarticle.php?id=162945&lang=est
vaatamata sellistele videodele: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFCOy9KXX4I Vabaerakonna (vist?) Jevgeni Krishtafovitsh lt... mida liiga paljud Eestlased lubasid, ja isegi vabandus kirja pole puutinile saadetud, et me oma sõnavabaduse tõttu igasugust idiootsust lubame toota ja isegi telekas mitu korda üle kanda.
Et see ka Enamusele Eestlastele oli väga solvav, vaadata ropendavat muulast meie lipuga, kikilipsuga, vehkimas ning Eestlaste nimel rääkimas, selle mõttega, et me Venelaste silmis rohkem lammastena tunduksime. Kellel meeldib klähvida ja kes vaeseid venelasi on nukkudeks ümber programmeerinud (või mis Su plaan oli sellega Krish?)http://www.postimees.ee/1429283/kodanik-lubab-lohkuda-lihula-monumendi
27 March 2015 04:18
Margus Meigo commented on Anti Teraväe's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
OOta AGA
LIhtne JAH või EI vastus, ... 1) kas siis see Margus Leivo on/oli EKREst?
2) Kas Margus Leivo Vene meedias rääkis nendel teemadel?
3) Kas Margus Leivo ütles, et ta selle maha võtnudon
ja poonus küsimus
4) Kas Margus Leivo peaks vabandama oma välja öeldu/ tehtu pärast?
( temast jutt: https://www.facebook.com/pages/%D0%9B%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%B2%D0%BE-%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B3%D1%83%D1%81/527989773981408?ref=ts&fref=ts&rf=1458425547710375 ?) ..vot ei tea miks ta ainuke leht vene keelne siin on.facebook.com
Лейво, Маргус
27 March 2015 04:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Thank You !
27 March 2015 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnu Kuusemaa's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Jah, E valmistega saab arvamuse ausaks muuta,
erinevalt tõestusteta tava valimisega kus mis iganes kaste ja sedeleid on.. ja keegi ei tea kes kelle poolt miks hääletas @ Mart Ummelas27 March 2015 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Heldur Paulson Ei ole vales seltskonnas, keegi peab lihtsalt õige ka olema :)27 March 2015 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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NU kui teie arvates ministrikoht on "Mõtetu" ja arvate, et kui paberite järgi keegi poliitikast on "eemaldatud" ja sellest hakkab erakond kellel kõigil peaks olema arusaam mille suhtes seistakse, ... siis te vist tõesti poliitika jaoks noored, Suur maailma poliitika jaoks vähemalt,
kuid jah, see ikka väga väärt ja asjalik küsimus on endiselt,
Ja jah, Jaanus Tutt seda strateegilist alust loe hoolega.. siis saad aru mis mastaabis teised tegelevad.. siis saad ka aru miks nad võidavad.. sest nad on vabalt nõus suurema eesmärgi nimel omasi tulle panema, teesklema vastast, ja mida iganes nägu ja rolli Mängima.. ning siis seljataga koos ikka sama asja teha mida ideoloogia nõuab.
Siin aga kui jääda nii kinni.. ja panna kogu kaardid mõne inimese peale, siis olete ja jääte kergesti ette aimatavaks, kergesti kasutatavaks (sest on teada kelle kaudu ja kuidas saab millist emotsiooni üles tuua) ning ka kergesti piiratavaks.
Kuid selle idee, mõtte suurusest, selleks läheks mitu lehekülge, proovin seda kellelgi mõistlikul lasta selgitada lühemalt, ja siis ehk meeles siia uuesti vastuseks see postitada.
Ning mingite homo asjade vastu te EI saa kui te ei hakka aktsepteerima, et esiteks on tegu läbi emade tekitatud emotsionaalse nakkus haigusega
ning teiseks, mis peamine, et tegu on muu maailma jõududega kelle jaoks Nemad kõigest üks mooduseid inimkonnaga toime tulekuks. Kuigi oluline relv.
Nad juba ammu laborites toimetavad ravimite (mida ka toidu sisse panna saab, sest need vajalikud organid nagu FDA jms on käpaall) ja meedias psühholoogiliste strateegiatega mis igasuguse vastumeelsuse lõpetaks ... samal ajal kui me ilma selge usulise taustata lihtsalt siin sellel tasemel kempleme, et rõve on näha ühte või teist erinevust inim tava liigist.
Kuid kuna ma tajun, mis moodi suurem osa vastajatest said küsimusest aru , siis jah, selline hääletuse valik on ka hea ning rahuldav ikkagi. : )27 March 2015 02:35
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Roomlastel kuni siiamaani on kasutsues see taktika, et nad mängivad ise kaitsjat ja vabastajat ja siis palkavad päti kampe ja teisi valitsusi ründama neid kes alluda ei soovi.
Vene kahepealine kotkas.. ega see pole ka ju ei midagi muud kui viikingite ja rooma koostöö. (mis arvate, kus teine kotkas on?)
pole need aferistid kuhugi kadunud nagu pole ka viisnurga suurvõimu globaalne avalik ponnistus kuskile ära läinud.. särab aina suuremini.. vaata isegi Su weebi lehitsejas peaks ta särama "Lemmik" nupu all.. su rahatähel..ameerika lippudel..laste T särkidel..vappidel..... ja isegi kui minna näiteks Mozilla privaatsesse programmeeriate komuuni, siis selle taust SUURElt punane, suure Viisnurgaga kui põhi sümbol (ja nende vestlusi avalikus meedias vaadata, kes tehno kratid suures osas on...siis nad ka pehmelt öeldes sotsialistlikud kuid kohe kindlasti mitte kristlikud, pigem selle vastased, vanemate vastased. ehk siis suures plaanis Punaste, pentagrammi, rooma, kommunistide ja nende tumedate jõudude kasutuses kes node taga on )
Väga vähe on tooteid mis teadlikult viisnurgast on suutnud eemal hoida ennast. Osad ennast kogematta märgistanud südame asemel selle märgiga, enamustel, see teadlikult lisatud, märgistamaks "meie siin, meie oma"
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Muidugi on väike võimalus ka, et Vandaalid väga head ja looduslikud olid, nagu Mari Rahvad või Siberi Shamaanid, Paiksed põlis Eestlased.. ning nad siis julgedes mitte alluda karistuseks pandi ajaloos paha kujund külge igaveseks.. kuid jah.. eks uurime veel Jüri,
Sa ise ka pool viiking, vaatame mis välja tuleb :p
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Ja ega tema nimega eriti isuäratavaid pilte välja ei tule:
https://www.google.ee/search?q=King+Gaiseric&num=100&newwindow=1&client=ubuntu&hs=4ly&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=A2QTVb3HMpLWapCSgKgO&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1135&bih=658https://www.google.ee/search?q=King+Gaiseric&num=100&newwindow=1&client=ubuntu&hs=4ly&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=A2QTVb3HMpLWapCSgKgO&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1135&bih=658
26 March 2015 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Mauritaania siiamaani hävinud kui seal viimati reisisin, kitsed söövad kilekotte, pole rohtugi isegi :D
Kunagi ammu nende siinseid tegusi vaatasin ja päris selge oli, et nad eriti heatahtlikud polnud,
Pealegi need Normannid ja viikingid ja muud maised pätid kõik liitusid Rooma pättide jäätmetega uue maailma korra vaikseks nurgataguseks juhtimiseks, sest põhi kontroll punktid populatsiooni kontrolliks (üle võetud suurem osa kirikuid vale arusaamaga Piiblist, Kooli süsteem mis jumala vastane ja valed toitumis, joomis ja seks normid ning arusaamad... ühesõnaga neil Rooma eelastel oli siis lihtne seletada, et me teineteisele kasulikud, sest teenime sama sarvikut. Mida ka Skandinaavlasi ülemine ots ei varjanud, kaneed inimeste põletamised mida Kristlaste kaela aetakse ja ristisõjad on tegelikud viikingid uues kuues koos oma tumedate rituaalidega. )
Muidugi Eesti viikingid on head, kui nemad Aafrikas inglismaa impeeriumi vastu võitlemas käisid :p , saaremaal siiamaani Puuri tänav peaks olema, mis tollest ajast saati..26 March 2015 03:31
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
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Mina mõtlesin, et see sõna VANDAALID just selle viikingi tiblaliku hõimu käitumisega otseselt seotud ...
ju vist ikka on ka:
"Vandals, King Gaiseric landed North Africa with over 80,000 men including Alans, Roman-Spaniards, former slaves and several Germanic tribesmen with their families. They seized lands from the local Berbers and some Romans near Tingi (Tangier), from there they overran the country and spread all over Mauritania. There was no limit to their savage atrocities and cruelties. Everything within their reach was laid waste, with looting, murders, tortures of all kinds, brigandry, and countless other unspeakable crimes, without any mercy to men, women, children, priests and ministers of god. Also they destroyed church buildings. As the Vandals were Arians, made the war with the Catholic Romans especially bitter. The armies of Gaiseric defeated Boniface in battle and went on the rampage forcing Boniface to retreat to fortified coastal town of Hippo Regius, now Bona."
et siis need pätid kes nii käituvad tänapäeval, on rahva keeli sama paha vaimu ohvrid ehk nagu "vandaalid"26 March 2015 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnu Kuusemaa's post.
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Ära hakka jah, tegelikult mulle üldse ei meeldi vaielda, lihtsam oleks kui lihtsalt nõustutakse või siis selgitatakse selgelt miks teine idee minu õiguse jaoks parem on.
Kuid Kuna me oma riiki ja võimu Usaldame täiega, sest me nii armastame Eestimaad, siis hea on, et nemad määravad ja loevad,
Meie töö on Neid aidata, saamaks veel paremaks, avatumaks ja puhtamaks, nii, et Neil parem oleks seda teha mida nad teevad (mison see, mida meie soovime).
Igasugune muupidine mõtlemine ja arvamine, et on muu parem võimalus, vib mõtetute ajaraiskamisteni. Kuid just ajaraiskamine on alati olnud opositsioonide põhi eesmärke lisaks kahtluse tekitamisel Sinu enda osas ning natuke siit ja sealt põhimõtteid unustama suunata juure tasemel, igasuguste muude probleemide taevani tõstmisega ja neid jahudes emotsioonliiselt, mitte praktiliselt, et lahendatud saaks.
Kui mul niipalju raha oleks kui keski rikkamatel toetajatel siis ma Eesti nimel küll nii tagasihoidlikult poleks neid asju ette võtnud kui kindlalt oleks teada ühte või teist.
Kuid jah.. eks seda tuleb meeles pidada.. et osadel inimestel on suur kiiks peas koos rahaga, sest see kiiks, just neile raha tõi
ehk
http://uudised.err.ee/v/vr/varia/c3d71876-90e3-405a-a41c-e9fe616bc0b4 - kuid SUUR viga on arvata, et kõik rikkad sedasi on. Tuleb lihtsalt paari-kolme põlvkonnaga teadlikult rahva uuendus uute teadvusse teha mis on vana eesti juure tasemel asjadega kursis, kui need programmid ise praegu käivitame, siis me enne aeglast mass rahvaste hävitus programme jõuame need juba sedasi käikupanna, et need jookseksid ise, ka siis kui juhe seinast välja tõmmata.
Selle asemel aga me siin kempleme ajutistel teemadel... ajutiste lahendustega ilma suurtest tõdest selgelt rääkimata.
Nagu me otseselt siis aru ei saaks või, et planeedil rahvuste eemaldamine on toimunud suures hoos ja me oma staatuses olevate riikidena ju väheseid, kellel on nii palju häid kaarte käes, et särada siin veel 5000+ aastat. Õigustatult.
Seni kuni puumajade ehitamist ja linase kasvatust ja metsataimede tundmist alles endas hoiame. Linast muidugi on ainult 120 hektarit järgi 60 000 st mis meil enne vene vägesi oli..http://uudised.err.ee/v/vr/varia/c3d71876-90e3-405a-a41c-e9fe616bc0b4
26 March 2015 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnu Kuusemaa's post.
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Ja mu põhi point on : SURUDA TULEB SEDA, et E-Valimised jääksid alles ja ka tavaliselt, selliseks, et hääled oleks avalikud, siis igasugune uduleeme loba ja kahtluste õhku paiskamine ei toimi, sest on selgelt näha kes kust ja miks hääletas,
muidugi hea oleks, kui valija kompassi lahendaine oleks ka kohustuslik osa iga hääletaja puhul
oluline ju ei ole, et suurem osa inimesi hääletaks vaid ikka, et suurem osa saaksid aru miks ja kelle poolt nad hääletavad
mõned kes hääletavad, vaevu suudavad kolme numbrit meeles hoida ja siis tal vaja otsustada, kes teiste elu riigis elama hakkab?
Ega ikka ei ole küll, hääletamine peaks olema privileegi mille inimene välja on teeninud26 March 2015 02:19
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnu Kuusemaa's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ta TUNDUB tark mees olema, ainukene ka kes sellel teemal oma nime alla panna on julgenud, kuid eks kui hakkame ta sidemeid ja tagatausta uurima.. nu eks seda teeme kui ta kaua jutustab.
See on ilmselge nagunii, kuidas mida saab muuta jne. Muidugi SELLIST süsteemi nagu meil ei ole teistes riikides toimiv selliselt,
oluline on, ku ita PÄRISELT oleks headuse poolel toimetaja, et ta paneks selgituseks, MIS on 100% lahendused, aga ta miskeid häguseid üldisi kesktasemel IT mehe selgitusi jagab,
Ma pole ise miski eriti ITi mees ega midagi, aga umbes 10 aastat tagasi toimetasin ka USA valitsuse arvutitega ( http://ee.linkedin.com/in/waffa (Abok Computers) ),
ja võin öelda, et ta mulle mingit meeletut muljet interneti allmaailma teadmistest küll ei jätnud, tavapärane tehnik keskmise taibuga.
Seega miks meil SUURE hulga väga tarkade inimeste seast, pole rohkem inimesi üle maailma me süsteemi kommenteerima tulnud vaid ainult see mees keda Keskerakond siia esimest korda kutsus?http://ee.linkedin.com/in/waffa
26 March 2015 02:12
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnu Kuusemaa's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Muidugi Harri Hurstil pole päris arusaamasi kuidas EESTI süsteem reaalses elus toimib mitte laboratooriumis,
Suurem osa neid ohtusi mida ta räägib pole reaalses elus olemas selliselt, et need välja ei tuleks siinse Nato ja Eu küber-keskuse, Vene interneti eriteenistuse ja terve karja häkerite ja arvuti tarkade juures,
on teatud lehed ja kanalid ja kohad mille kaudu arvuti Päris targad saavad asju levitada kui midagi kriitilist on, nii, et see oleks jäädavalt teada, siiani pole keegi midagi suutnud.
Muidugi eks siin veel ühte pirukat küpsetatakse, kui see selleks
Ja sellest muudatusest, millest ma räägin, kui see rakendada siis pole neid ohtusi üldse olemas, millest ta jahub26 March 2015 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on Enno Kuld's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kaido kas saad SoundClodi ülesse panna, see ka hea koht, sest siis saab kommenteerida lõike otse26 March 2015 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Kiisk's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ega ainult see kus kui palju keegi pikettidel osaleb ja poseerib ei anna tulemust, vaid ikka teod ja jutud mis juba teoks tehtud26 March 2015 01:56
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnu Kuusemaa's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Olev Piir lõpeta see paber pettuse promo ära seni kuni me pole saanud SELLIST hääletust, kus on hääled avalikud, kus kabiinis märgid ka oma Isikukoodi mida siis sinu kehtiva kaasasoleva dokumendiga kontrollitakse.
Paber hääletusel ma ise käisin just kehtetu isikutunnistusega ja läks läbi - iga üks oleks võinud seda teha minu asemel minu dokumendiga, kuid internetis ma sellega hääletada poleks saanud.
Ka on raskem võltsida interneti hääli ilma jälgijätmata ja täiesti võimatuks muutub E häälte võltsimine kui teha väike muudatus, hääled kanda ka xTeese, ning koopiana riigi portaali ja paberkoopiana välja prinditult riigi arhiivi
siison asi 100% kindel
eks ikka, saab teise ID kaardiga hääletada, kuid need kogu Eesti peale pole kosmilised valitsusliitu muutvad muutused mida siis vanurite ID kaartidega tehakse (sest ega seda veel ju ei tea, kas need hääled enamasti hääletasid ise seisvalt ja kelle poolt..)26 March 2015 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
sain aru, et küsimus tundus vast kuidagi "kas loobuksite põhimõtetest"
ei sedama ei küsinud,
küsimus on ikka palju strateegilisem.
Ühe selle grupi hea liige saatis mulle selle: http://www.eesti.ca/homoliikumise-strateegilistest-alustest/print32814
Võtke SEE minimaalseks standardiks, mis toimub kogu maakera piires, et eesti osas on VÄGA suur lisa plaan lisaks sellele seaduse naljale mis läbi viidi.. ja on VÄGA HEA, et me esimesena selles seaduses nõustusime ja on VEEL PAREM kui me esimesena sellest asjast loobuksime,
kuid jätaksime selle välise kesta samaks mida räägitakse meedias, at "ainult selles on asi kas nad saavad..." - las nad olla, kuime peame aru saama, et see suur globaalne plaan, ja neil plaan keerata kõik suur riigid,survestatult kuni lõpliku murdumisega nende vastu kes lihtsalt tunduvad, et kardavad homosi.
Ärge kartke, olge rindel täis uskumust,et saame hakkama, selle inimliigi püsimajäämises,kuid respektige ka Neid Suguseid, saades aru, et nende vaim ja Abi, on Muust maailmast,
ja siin arvata, et tegu on ainult seksuaalse väär arengu tasemel asjaga kus inimene ei saa aru kuhu ta mida torkab, ...(ei noh, seda ka aga..) aga asi on palju tumedam ja tõsisem ja suurem,
Ilma naljata, juttu kokku võttes võite googledada irooniana tunduvat odavat 20 minutilist filmi "Gay Niggers from Outer Space" mis saadeti ühe feministi poolt mulle, ... seda vaadates saate aru,mis tasemel päris usklikudja Kristlased muretsevad Nende suguste osas.. ja kuidas nad ema ja poja suhted oskavad süsteemi kaudu sassi ajada selliselt (Luule Viilma teooria, et see lapsepõlvest tuleneb)
selliselt, et teadvus saaks nakatuda taoliste arusaamadega.
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Sellest failist leiate te lõigu:
Kirk ja Madsen (marketingi ekspert ja neuropsühhiaatria)
jagasid Ameerika avalikkuse kolme ligilähedaselt võrdse suurusega gruppi ja soovitasid igaühe jaoks erinevat taktikat:
1. homoseksuaalsuse ägedad vastased – isoleerimine ja vaikus;
2. kõhklev keskklassi Ameerika – tundlikkuse kaotamine, surve ja pööramine;
3. sõbralikud homoseksuaalse liikumise vastu – mobiliseerimine.
Psühholoogiliselt tuleb rünnata kõigil kolmel rindel korraga, kuna tulemused igal rindel sõltuvad ühendatud jõupingutustest.
Kõige tähtsam: tundlikkuse kaotamine, surve ja pööramine
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Usklikutel muidugi teada, see vana Greeka-Rooma tehnoloogia, kuid eks lugege veel ise.. ja valmistuge.. suuremas plaanis, sest nemad mõtlevad ikka mitmes aasta kümnendites ja planeetide piires ette.
Ning Jumal on nende poolt, kes oskavad olla vägivallatumad (nad on õppinud armastust manipuleerima).. selle pärast teid vägivallale õhutatakse, et te kaotaksite.http://www.eesti.ca/homoliikumise-strateegilistest-alustest/print32814
26 March 2015 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Loomulikult olete, peaksite olema põhimõtetega erakond, SEE tähendab, et TEIL endal on ka põhimõtted, ja eeldatavasti samad mis teil kõigil teistel, olulistes küsimustes,mis teid koos hoiab.
Muidu siin invasiooni aeg juba lihtne - võtad ühe pere maha ja ongi kogu kamp peata ja aru ei saa kuidas kes mida tegema peab enam, nii oleks ju paha ?
Seda ikka teate, et saab võtta inimesed, mõned, ka eraisikuliselt ja siis nad ümber programmeerida, sellel samal sõjaväel kelle siia kutsusime, kes saab ühe öö jooksul olulistel isikutel aju muutuse teha, on see käkitegu.
Inglismaa sõjavägi pakkus valitsusele näiteks, oma ametliku valitsuse lehel uk.gov sõjaväe draamas kannatavatele veteranidele teenust, depresiooniks vabanemist (kellel sõja draamad) mis seisnes selles, et nad UUE MINEVIKU inimese pähe paigaldavad. Ehk, et Sa siis ei arva, et Sa oled inimesi ... vaid, et hoopis omasid pannkoogi äri ja olid auto õnnetuses võimuud sellist.
Venemaal ka sellised tehnikad olemas, kuid mida kui vaja kasutatakse suures plaanis ainult siis kui vajalik plaan paigas, era isikuliselt ainult siis kui üksikuid eemaldada vaja on kuid edasi kasutada, või kahjutuks teha ilma, et kuskil midagi näha oleks...
Kas te vene ajal, sis jubaunustanud need müstilised lood, kuidas osad inimesed päevaks paariks ära olid teadmatta ja siis tagasi tulid täiesti teiste poliitiliste veendumuste või käitumistega ?
Ja neid isiksusi saab ka inimeste sisse istutada, et neid hiljem aktiviseerida selliselt, et inimene ise arvaks, et see tema enda vaimusünnitus oli... ja JUST
JUST selle pärast, on vaja, et kogu erakond oleks vaimuterve ja terav, ja mitte karjas lamba järel, vaid oleksid KOHE valmis ka tähele panema kui keegi kuskile imelikuks kaldub ja kambas ta luubi alla võtta.. (muidugi see olukord muutub raskemaks, kui aste allpool liidrit olevate inimestega seda tehakse ja siis ... kuid noh, see las jääda fantaasia filmide seeriasse, nii palju liikumis ruumi PRAEGU võõrvõimudel meie pinnal VEEL ei ole.. vanasti aga jah.. selles praeguses olukorras pole midagi imestada.. ega ka pole mõtet süüdistada, sest me ei tea suures osas, mis juhtus inimestega kes unustasid oma juured..)http://uk.gov/
26 March 2015 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Nii lapsed,
ja vanemad
Endiselt te siin kommenteerite küll grammaatika tasemel (sest muud ei suutnud?) ja kaitsete loogikat "me oleme põhimõtetega erakond ja "mida teeb 7000 inimest ilma juhtoinasteta"
Ausalt öelda, kui inimesed erakonnas on nii ajudetta ja aru saamatud selles osas mis on õige ja vale, sellised karja loomad kes pidevalt ainult karjajuhi suunas lähevad enda sõnul ja siis aju ja pea kaotavad kui juhti pole, ...sellise erakonna pea mida küll olla ei sooviks, ning ka sellise pundi liige pole kõige väärtuslikum olla. Kui vast just Pühast Vaimust inimene ise või sügavate loodus shamanismi teadmistega, siis natukene arusaadav KUID, isegi siis, kui ta vähegi tark juht oleks teeks ta kindlaks, et nii suur hulk karjaloomi ja lambad ja liitlasi kes tal on, saaksid ka ilma temata hakkama, saades aru kuidas asjad on, iseseisvalt.
See oli tõesti, sutsu provokaatorlik küsimus samas ka test kui palju te valmis olete suureks poliitikas ja maailma juhtimiseks.
Siin ei olnud küsimus, juhuks kuiaru saite, et kas peate selle inimesega seotud väärtustest lahti ütlema või teda põlema panema,
vaid liht labasest TEMA tooli vabastamisest SINULE või Sinu sõbrale, et saaksite, teha ikka seda mida oleks vaja olnud.
Te nagu arvate, et grammatiline kirjapilt on olulisem kui see kas psühholoogiliselt ja vaimse tundelisusega õigesti ja tasakaaluka loogilisusega mõelda oskate väljaspool karpi.
Näitaks vähese meedia kajastuse ja kommentaaride põhjal ma saan päris kindlalt öelda, et Monika näiteks Sa tunduksid mõistlikum eesots, kuid kui puudub ühtlus ja armastus, siis ei saaks Ka Sina olla valitsuse eesotsas kui selline kinnistunud kultuslik arusaam on ükskõik kelle meist ümber,
mitmed vanad gurud ammu öelnud, et see tuleb maha pesta, muidu hakkab enamus Sind suunama ja sa ainult enamuse mõjul hakkad liikuma (ja "enamus" ise on see kes tekitad 2-3 põhi vastassuunda, et alati olla pikas plaanis juht positsioonil ka siis kui väliselt tundub kaotus. )
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See siis vastus teile: Aivar Vares, Ruth Kask, Jaanika K Aasa, Jaanus Tutt ja teised.
Heidi Tamm - Sinule veel vastan, see oluline asi mis räägid kuid seda kõike tuleb suuremalt mõelda, te (kõik) ikka saate aru, et jutt käib ka poliitikast eks, mitte oma meie isiklikest veendumustest ja plaanidest ja lootustest. Vaid arusaamine tekitada mille keskel me elame.26 March 2015 01:18
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnu Kuusemaa's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Vähemalt reform on oma SELLES asjas kindel olnud eks,
Siin aga räägiti nagu MITMED korrad teemal "ehk peaks ekre keskiga liituma reformi vastu" pla pla
Miskit süsteemi viga näete siin mõtlemises eks ?26 March 2015 00:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Mitte mingit pidi ei saaks ka kümne juhti figuuri eemaldamine erakonda lõhestada kus 7000 liiget. Ega te mingit savisaare kultust ju ei aja taga? Ja isegi savi, elab oma jala kaotuse üle ja Kesk oleks savi kaotuse üle elanud.25 March 2015 23:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Just,
Loomulikult on ministri tool seda väärt,
kui te aru saate kuidas päris poliitika tegelikult käib ning seda, et telekast nähtu lipsudega ümber laua istumine mineraal vesi käes ja päevakorra punktid ette kirjutatud, see pole see kuidas tegelikult maailma muutvad otsused käivad.25 March 2015 23:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Mina ise, kui erakonna pea oleksin, vabalt koheselt astuksin maha kui see mu Erakonnale on kasulik,
sest ma piisavalt enesekindel, et mu oma grupp mind päriselt ei hülgaja ideed on need mis juhivad, ning vähemalt iga teine mu oma sõber on sama edukas ja usaldusväärne kui ma ise.
Seega kui kellelgi on kiiks,siis jälgida, kas see on päriselt kiiks või on see ettekääne ja vabandus.25 March 2015 22:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Võimalus, et võetakse on muidu hea, juhul kui see valitsuse vastane laim ja ülbus maha võetakse, puna erakondlik retoorika kordamaks seda mis kuidagi valitsust ei tee välisohtude osas tugevamaks vaid lisab pragusi mis ideaalsed omavaheliste vastusteta jageluse tekkeks, võtmaks aega ja energiat ära kõige olulisemaga tegelemaks.
(igasugused natsi "skandaalid", homo probleemid ja hääle pettus valitsuse poolt peaks olema lõpetatud teema, mida filosofeerides arutada pehmetes toonides, (ja tegelike lahendustega tegeledes!)
mitte luues kuvandit, kui inimestest.. kes asjade tõsistest tagamaadest ei adu, sest kui aduks siis teatakse ette, et nii suurte probleemide osas mõistlikud niisama avalikult ei klähvi, kes ametlikult poliitikas olla soovivad)25 March 2015 22:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Lihtsalt näitamaks poliitilist suuremeelsust25 March 2015 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
no special abilityes here.. jsut near avarage among other Cambridge test makers
25 March 2015 21:12
Margus Meigo commented on Alar Ehala's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ja tõsimeeli lastakse rääkida sellist teemat..
ja kommentaarid selgitavad ka asja ära seal nii nagu on http://uudised.err.ee/k/eesti/70132671-87ae-4e94-a4ca-a272e9a77c19
Miks me siis ei räägi ega selgita avalikult, et me oleme ühe maailma suurima immigrantide numbriga riik, kogu maakeral,
ma ei saa aru, kuidas on võimalik, et asjast õigete nimedega ei räägita.
Ja siin pole midagi pistmist, minu tunnete osas ühtede või teiste immigrantide osas,
nagu spetsialiseeritud eugeenika rahvaste hävitamise osas on OTSESELT lubatud ja sellega ülikoolides üle saja aasta pool avalikult toimetatud kuid Eugeenika kultuuride ja rahvaste säilimise osas on keelatud, midagi mis on lihtne tõestada, vanade säilinud kultuuride puhul, et on vajalik.
Ning siis imestatakse, et suur osa noori arvab, et see maailm on virtuaalne ja päriselt polegi olemas, ning see number alles hakkab massiliselt tõusma uue lainena varsti, nende kes arvab, et päriselt pole olemas.. vanad kreeka utoopiad täies jõus.. (ning siis noored ka nõus millega iganes, sh oma vanemate vastu olemine, sest noh, kui päriselt pole olemas pole ka suurt vahet...
see muide millionites leviv suur uus arusaam, mis tundub narr vanadele aga väga reaalne noortele, see halogramm ja matrix maailma, 4d ja mis iganes muud sellised paralleel ilmade teemad.. ning neil kohe kohapeal tõestatav see pannes inimene muud tundma mida ta tundnud pole varem manipuleerides ta ajulainete ja väljadega.. ning korra kui oled selles, siis tagasi teed nii lihtsalt pole enam.. jääb ainult elu pill võitlus nende vastu kes Sind takistavad ja püüdlus selle tunde suunas mis korra tekitati, sest inimesed on siirad... )http://uudised.err.ee/k/eesti/70132671-87ae-4e94-a4ca-a272e9a77c19
25 March 2015 13:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
See naistelehe artikkel muidugi pole midagi väärt selle Audio lingi kõrval. Et selles osas siis.. kunagi sooviks päris sellist inimesi kes aktiivselt nendes teemades25 March 2015 12:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
THanks George25 March 2015 04:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
By Emma Brown March 15, 2011
Self-taught chemist Owsley “Bear” Stanley, a legend of the 1960s psychedelic underground who produced the LSD that fueled Ken Kesey’s “acid tests” and the Grateful Dead’s acid rock, died March 13 after a car accident in Queensland, Australia, where he had lived since the 1980s. He was 76.
Mr. Stanley, the grandson of a Kentucky governor, grew up in the Washington area before he found his calling in Berkeley,Calif., as an early patron of the Dead and one of the first people to produce mass quantities of acid.
“I just wanted to know the dose and purity of what I took into my own body,” he told Rolling Stone magazine in 2007. “Almost before I realized what was happening, the whole affair had gotten completely out of hand. I was riding a magic stallion. A Pegasus. I was not responsible for his wings, but they did carry me to all kinds of places.”
Working at first from a makeshift bathroom laboratory in Berkeley, Mr. Stanley produced at least 1 million doses of LSD between 1965 and 1967.
A stubborn, fast-talking perfectionist, he discarded any batch suspected of impurities and soon gained a reputation for producing reliably pure and powerful LSD. His customers were rock stars, Haight-Ashbury hippies and an ever-widening circle of people who wanted to be part of the hallucinogenic era. It made him a fortune.
“Without him, there simply wouldn’t have been enough acid for the psychedelic scene of the Bay Area in the Sixties to have ignited,” the Grateful Dead’s biographer, Dennis McNally, wrote in 2002.
“Owsley” became a brand name for Mr. Stanley’s drugs and then, according to the Oxford English Dictionary, a synonym for any high-quality acid.
He provided the drug to Kesey’s Merry Pranksters for the experiments recounted in Tom Wolfe’s 1968 book, “The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test,” and to the Beatles and Steely Dan, who sang about Mr. Stanley in “Kid Charlemagne.”
Guitarist Jimi Hendrix sampled Mr. Stanley’s product, as did the Rolling Stones’ Brian Jones and Pete Townshend of The Who.
“The thing about Owsley is that when he gave you something, he would take it too. Just to show you,” Townshend told Rolling Stone. “He must have had the most extraordinary liver.”
When he wasn’t making the multicolored acid tabs known on the street as “White Lightning,” “Blue Dots” and “Monterey Purple,” Mr. Stanley was working with and for the Grateful Dead. An early and enthusiastic fan, he provided band members with all the acid they could drop, paid their rent before they were famous and served as their sound engineer.
As finicky about audio as he was about acid, he worked for years to develop the Dead’s “wall of sound,” a 40-foot-tall bank of more than 600 speakers whose output could be controlled by the musicians on stage.
He plugged in a tape recorder at nearly every one of the Dead’s early sound checks, rehearsals and performances, creating a historical record of the live shows that helped turn the band into a cultural phenomenon. He also helped design the Dead’s widely reproduced skull-and-lightning logo.
Augustus Owsley Stanley III was born Jan. 19, 1935. His grandfather and namesake was Kentucky’s governor from 1915 to 1919 and also served in both houses of Congress.
The younger Stanley, nicknamed “Bear” for his prematurely hairy chest, had a difficult relationship with his father, a lawyer for the federal government who struggled with alcohol addiction through most of his life, and with his mother, who died when he was a teenager.
Mr. Stanley was kicked out of Charlotte Hall Military Academy in St. Mary’s County after sneaking booze onto campus. He committed himself voluntarily to St. Elizabeths Hospital in Washington — “I was just a neurotic kid,” he told Rolling Stone — and then briefly attended and dropped out of both Washington-Lee High School in Arlington and the University of Virginia.
He tried the Air Force and taught himself about electronics and ham-radio operation. On the side, he took courses in Russian, French and ballet. In 1963, he moved to Berkeley to resume his college education. He lasted two semesters.
Mr. Stanley took his first dose of LSD in 1964. He walked outside, “and the cars were kissing the parking meters,” he told Rolling Stone.
Determined to make his own acid, he holed up in Berkeley’s library for three weeks and emerged with all he needed to know.
LSD became illegal in 1966, and police busted Mr. Stanley’s operation the following year. The San Francisco Chronicle’s headline about the arrest of the “LSD Millionaire” inspired the Dead, whose music he first heard at one of Kesey’s acid test happenings, to write the song “Alice D. Millionaire.”
Mr. Stanley always had been a controlling personality — when he rented a house for the Grateful Dead in 1965, he refused to allow “poisonous” vegetables inside, and everyone subsisted on meat for months. That stubbornness helped contribute to his break with the band in the mid-1970s.
Convinced that the Northern Hemisphere would be destroyed by the advancing glaciers of a new Ice Age, Mr. Stanley moved to Australia in the 1980s. He worked as a jewelry-maker, and his belt buckles and other pieces sold for as much as $20,000.
Survivors include his wife, Sheilah; four children, Pete, Starfinder, Nina and Redbird; eight grandchildren; and two great-grandchildren.
In 1970, Mr. Stanley was arrested a second time on drug charges. He served two years in federal prison.
“I wound up doing time for something I should have been rewarded for,” he told the Chronicle in 2007. “What I did was a community service, the way I look at it.”25 March 2015 04:52
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
Thank You
25 March 2015 04:48
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
Oh.. one admits..
this is good evolution as most vould not even understand, there is nothing wrong or strange with it, as this is how people are programmed
this is good evolution as most vould not even understand, there is nothing wrong or strange with it, as this is how people are programmed
25 March 2015 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Nuuter's post.
Group: Vandenöuteooria/Conspiracy theory
Äitähe toomas,
aga ega siis arvatavastimitte mina saa olla oma enda pidi tark.. saan aint tunnetada ja aktsepteerida seda mis on õige, õigem või vajalikum hetkel... ja kui see mind targaks teeb maakeeli, siis no jah. asi seegi.
koolis ma ju ei käinud eriti, süsteemses.
Kuid kui see meile kasulik, siis soovita kindlasti : )
Kiitus!25 March 2015 04:07
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Nuuter's post.
Group: Vandenöuteooria/Conspiracy theory
Kuid jah, kui religiooselt huvitavaks tahad ajada asja ja aru saada miks asjad nii nagu on... siis kujuta ette, et palju erinevaid ülbemaid veel kui mees olevusi, kes ammu enne meid "targaks" saanud ja minema lennanud, nagu teismelised või alfa ülburid arvates, et "saame ise hakkama".. kes (nüüd) aru saanud, natuke avastanud.. kust ja kuidas elu tuleb ja et ikka pikka aega robotisisse onanerides oma rassi elus ei hoia... kuid ikka see kiiks üle kõige, et tahaks hoida kinni ja omandada kontrollides seda mida ise pole loonud.. ja nad siin kogu arengu nii madalale ehk aitavad viia strateegiliselt (suitsu, viina ja naise piiramisega,
tema õpetamise, tunnetamise asemel selles suunas mida Naine tegelikult soovib... (noh greeka-rooma karbi "tarkus" milles ka meie kooli süsteem) ja Kuidas... olulisem ongi, Kuidas.
Naine eelkõige ju harjunud lihtsalt omas maailmas mõttejõul looma asju mida vaja, kutsudes nad läbi Jumala esile.. ammu ei ole oldud nii algelise võimete küüsis kui siin taluma peavad meest nullist üles kasvatades .. endale selliseks nagu oleks ideaalne... ise teravnev ja puhastuv...
see umbes sama, kui me suruksime igale lapsele ehitada ise isiklikult oma iPod (siin maises tavalises mõttes).. tehes ja mõeldes välja protsessorid 0st jms)... et see mida nad taluma peavad kui harjutud Looma.. et nüüd vägaväga algeliselt, peaaegu üldse mitte segades ja lubades teha mida iganes peaaegu....tuulena puhudes õiges suunas vahest aint.. ja kodus draamat tehes mõista andes, piiride ületamisest või puudumisest..
ja mida mees teeb? Võtab seda isiklikult.. ka see, et naine endas sada 10 vaimu hoiab kes paneb ta hullusi meie mõistes rääkima.. peaks olema õpetus.. see, et saaksime aru kas räägime naisega.. või mis vaimuga.. (kelle tema sisse lasime räpase peenisega, endaga olles nakatanud paljude vaimu kollidega.. kui ta armastuses ennast meile avas....noh.. eks nad tahavad ka osa saada, arusaade aga..)
ja ehk seda tunnetama, taluma ja mõistma ning ravima õppides... saame teada kuidas uuesti saame ligemale Reaalsustele mis Päris vajalikud25 March 2015 04:05
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Nuuter's post.
Group: Vandenöuteooria/Conspiracy theory
Oih.. ja ühe suure hulga kanaldust just kaotasin ära, sest lehitseja kokku jooksis.. ja lipsas käest isegi millest see jutt oli.. peab ikka sõnade salvestaja oma arvutisse panema.. siis ei lähe kaotsi nii krgelt mis sõrmedest tuleb25 March 2015 04:01
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Nuuter's post.
Group: Vandenöuteooria/Conspiracy theory
Tuli ongi enamasti tarbetu, ja tule hing kes mehest oma arust ammu üle (ja me peale pigem solvunud, et meil anti potentsiaalne võimalus olla rohkem kui tuli naise jaoks)
ega suus enamust elu , taimi ja loomi ei tehta tule abil, vaid ikka alla 40 kraadi.25 March 2015 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Nuuter's post.
Group: Vandenöuteooria/Conspiracy theory
Mis Sa arvad, et tarkus ja Naine on eraldi olevad olevused v?
Isegi kõige populaarsem kirjandus nagu piibel, teab,et tarkus on nais soost, (Sh. märge Õpetussõnad 8:29...31, ja sumerite Jumalad kes vist kõik Nais soost olid?) .. isegi algelised Rooma robotid ja Greeka homod teadsid seda Naise tarkuse asja, esitledes Filosoofia ja Elutarkuse sümbolina Naist.
Lihtsalt enne seda, mehe mõttes tarkust (mida me sama madalal tasemel korjame ja arvutame ja mõõdame nagu keegi Elurikkust raha näol, olgugi, et raha omanik kokaiini küüsis tühi luuser isiksuselt ja loodus teaduselt ning sellest kust tuli ja kuhu läheb. )
Naised ei saa oma tõelist olemust, sõna otseses mõttes karva-võrdki tava mehele avaldada, sest siis mehel programm koos ja kogu ülejäänud loomingu ja naise osas pime ning eluks ajaks parandamatu. Samm sammu haaval mees ise naise passiivsel juhendamisel peab õppima austama elusana nii puid kui loomi, nende järamise asemel.
Nad ise võivad teha mis tahavad, päriselt ei saa naine kunagi süüdi olla mehe maailmas, kuid mehe õppetund on osata õppima ka naist ennast (kes nagu mõnes müttes lähim kontakt jumalaga mis mehel saavutada võimalik) keelama ja juhendama, aitama ja hoolima, tunnetama ja tervendama Selliselt, et mees ise üleolevaks ei muutu ega hakkaks ette kujutama, et see palju midagi rohkemat, kui suurte hulga silmade all, antud eluülesannete lahendamine.
Valu mida nad tunnevad on kordades suurem mida mees suudaks ette kujutada enamikel juhtudel... sest meil meeled vähema dimensioonilised ja sellele valule siin maailmas on limiit millest edasi me ei tunne, mille piires tunda saame kuni mõistus välja lülitab või arusaamine, miks valu on,
naistel aga need valud palju kestvamad paljudes aegades ja ruumides ja suurustes sest nad sisaldavad samal ajal ka tundeid , tarkust ja kõike muud (ja kõik see lisa valu mida naised tunnevad, sest siin ruumides tunnetus ära võetud miks tunnevad.. see valu läheb ka meeste põhjusena kirja, sest kui me lubaksime maailmal normaalselt kasvada seda enamust valu siin millest mehed teadlikud, naised üldse lisaks oma muudele suur loomingutele üldse taluma ei peaks (ja pea meeles, jumala olendid kuigi saavad eemaldada kibestuse, tunnevad valu palju sügavamalt...t ))
Muidugi tegelikult ei ole mehe täis võim ja võimekus ja olulisus sama suur kui kassi jaoks ta küünised, kuid noh.. mingi adekvaatsema võrdluse ikka annab.
Naised saavad ennast ise ilma meheta rasestada ka siin ilmas.
Isegi ei osata ju teada tegelikult meestel miks on Kuupuhastus,
Kas me suudaksimegi (juudid veel pisavalt targad olid tol ajal, et 2500 aastat tagasi tulevastele põlvedele kirja saadi pandud, kuidas rituaalsed puhastusvannid Naiste jaoks ehitati enne sünagooge, sest saadi aru kust tuleb ja mis on elu ja Jumal, ..nüüd me aga tõrvaks muutunud selle maailma joaks, pigi. )25 March 2015 03:53
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Nuuter's post.
Group: Vandenöuteooria/Conspiracy theory
Kuid selle tipu kogum mida mees saab ja saavutada saab on elementaarne ühe aspekti alguse osa naisel, mida on rohkem kui mehe võime mõelda, (kuigi seda antud meil enda mõistes nii palju, et ennast jumalana ette kujutada saame, kuid see köki-möki)
Ideaalne mees pole palju rohkemat kui kassil tema küüned iseseisvalt. Kassi ilma küünteta saame veel ette kujutatud, ja eri materialist küüsi (eri mehe liigi versioone lisaks maalastele)
kuid tavapärased küüned tulevad kassist mitte mingit muud pidi ja liiguvad ainult tänu kassile
(muidugi nad nii algeliselt need küüned võrreldes kassiga ,et nende mitte orgaanilist koopiat saab ka mees naise abiga juba ise ehitatud selles ajas siin, robotist jutt siis metafoorina mehaaniliste küünte näol).25 March 2015 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Nuuter's post.
Group: Vandenöuteooria/Conspiracy theory
kellele matrix, kellele paraleel ilm, kellele oma arengu tasemes muudatusi tehes edasi lubatud tase kõrgemate poolt, siin inimteadvuse, vaimu kasvanduses24 March 2015 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Nuuter's post.
Group: Vandenöuteooria/Conspiracy theory
Seeongi kogu piibli põhi point ju, nii lihtne, et tuleb armastada (ja siis selle sees avalduvad kõik me heateo soovid, tarkused ja pere kaitse ning loodus hoid, konservatiivsus ja lahkus ja andestus... kõik)24 March 2015 23:28
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Nuuter's post.
Group: Vandenöuteooria/Conspiracy theory
Siin pole midagi möllata vaid tuleb tegeleda sellega millega Jumal, Loodus ja Naine soovivad, siis oled "Märtixist " välja saamise äärel
Ning ainult läbi armastuse Naise südames saad päris igavese elu poole (liites oma keha armastuses, kõrgeimas reaalsuses kokku naisega, aktsepteerides kes ta on sel ajal eriti veel,...see ongi kõrgeimast kõrgeim arusaama tipp mille sees kõik muud sin maal vaja minevad arusaamad on.. või vähemalt ei saa mis iganes oskus meid viia sihtkohale eirates seda elementaarset alust. Oma vanemaid peab ka armastama muidugi (eriti hoides südames emajärgsust, kui Su lähimat loojat.), kuid see arusaam tuleb õige naise armastusega ka. )
Seega jah.. senikaua niisama kannume Ta sees lennates siia ja sinna ja teisel pool meid küll ilusti vastu võetakse sest muu viisakuse tase.. kuid vaadatakse ja saadakse kohe aru, mis arenguga tegemist..24 March 2015 23:27
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Nuuter's post.
Group: Vandenöuteooria/Conspiracy theory
siin olev ka v: http://para-antsud.forum.co.ee/t13-ajaloolised-seosed-ja-mustikahttp://para-antsud.forum.co.ee/t13-ajaloolised-seosed-ja-mustika
24 March 2015 23:15
Margus Meigo commented on Mare Tammerand's post.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
retro24 March 2015 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
gentelmanny saab õppida näitlema, ilu saab olla sisuta (kuid saab olla õpitid gentelmanilikus kui tööriist ühiskonna jaok) tarka aga..
24 March 2015 23:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Kuid siis mida arvate? Kas selles suunas peaks olema miinimum arusaam või see liiga mehelik lähenemine, midagi puudu või üle (tema audiotest) ?24 March 2015 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Liisa's post.
Group: Kristlased
Arvan, et heatahtlik või tark24 March 2015 22:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Siin temast suts ka juttu: http://www.naisteleht.ee/content/mart-metsala-%E2%80%93-elupoletajast-pastorikshttp://www.naisteleht.ee/content/mart-metsala-%E2%80%93-elupoletajast-pastoriks
24 March 2015 06:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
(esimese audio http://kurper.tt.ee/konelejad/mart%20metsala/mart_metsala_vaimulik_soda.mp3) see kuldrahade maksmine.. kuidas moodi see seik saab reaalselt olla päris lahendus, või see võimalik ?
Et palved ainult ei aita, on vaja ka tegu vahesthttp://kurper.tt.ee/konelejad/mart%20metsala/mart_metsala_vaimulik_soda.mp3
24 March 2015 06:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Kuidas Mardist arvad? Kas seda tema 80ndate raadio kõne ka kuulnud oled mida tol ajal eetrisse ei lubatud lasta?24 March 2015 06:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Lisaks,
Kuulamist: http://kurper.tt.ee/lists/mart_vaimulik_soda.m3u (avab VLC, Winampi ja audio mängiatega kaks lugu)
Siis veel siit peale esimest 10 minutit: http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/mp3/nahtamatu_maailm/2012/New1.php?failinimi=120331_(54)_MartMetsala_MerikeAus.mp3
Saab otse ka weebilt mängida: http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=858:naehtamatu-maailm-2012&catid=98:naehtamatu-maailm (Nähtamatu maailm 2012.03.31 - Vaimne sõda
(Mart Metsala, Merike Aus))
http://kurper.tt.ee/lists/mart_me.html
http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=858:naehtamatu-maailm-2012&catid=98:naehtamatu-maailmhttp://kurper.tt.ee/lists/mart_vaimulik_soda.m3u
24 March 2015 06:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/ForgeFund
https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/ForgeFund
24 March 2015 04:57
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Kiisk's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
And in many instances the mentally ill homeless troops can be as one person.
Olles UK tänaval kka päris karme special delta force taoliste eri oppide treening programmide koostajatega sai kohatud.. kes kõrvale heidetud.. väga veidraid asju räägiti.24 March 2015 04:29
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Miks kõik nii kibedat juttu ajavad kui vinamarjad hapuks lähevad?
Tõestades, et nende eemale lükkamine oli õige valik. Kaotades oma viimased toetajad ka tänu kellele nad Reformi juturuumi üldse kutsuti24 March 2015 04:27
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Masing's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Peaasi, et pere koos on24 March 2015 04:26
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Mis LIIGSET?
Nagu Liigselt vähe on erakondadel raha niigi ja siis nagu võtame veel, järgmiseks tahate riigikogu tegelaste palka ka vähendada nendest kopikatest mis nad saavad muu maailma poliitikutega võrreldes.
Vanasti soome ehitajad said 3x rohkem palka kui ministrid, hiilge ajal.
Lisaks veel ehitaja võis osta ja kortsu sõita mis iganes bemmi, juua ja laaberdada kellega iganes kuid teine peab oma söögikoha kviitungeid koguma ja lips kaelas mõõda seinaääri käima (ja vahest kehavajadusi ka rahuldama seal, aga see juba teine lugu)
chmoon24 March 2015 04:25
Margus Meigo commented on Rivo Rajandu's post.
Group: Kristlased
Postitasin abipalve selles osas siia Rivo . )
Kuid jah.. kui ta Surmast nüüd tagasi tuleb sis tal palju huvitavat rääkida mida õpetati teispoolsusel, kui tuleb siis räägib kindlasti mõne aja pärast midagi müstilist tundub.
Kuigi ta ise arvas, et usk on kui partei.. seda enam tal vaja saada süva tarkust.. ja korra veel tagasi tlla vähemalt, et oma valijatele öelda, mis see õige tee on..
Nüüd oleks vist huvitav või lubatud igasuguste hinge ränduritega suhelda kes pidavat muudes ilmaruumides kontakti saama, ja vast mõned, Eesti nõiad.. ja siis vaatama kas nad räägivad asjast sama moodi kui Ets kui ta tagasi jõuab, et kas nad päriselt kohtasid teineteist ja muud sellist.24 March 2015 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kas oli piiblis lugu, kus jumal tegi ühte moodi, siis inimene noomis teda ja ütleks, et jumal teeks nüüd õigemini.. siis jumal kahetses ja otsustas teha teistmoodi, sedasi kuidas inimene õpetas teda..
oli mingi taoline lugu eks ?
---
//leidsin oma vastuse ka ülesse, sõnastan selle siia varsti.
Huvitavaid vajalikke nurkasi on veel tulnud siit välja lihvimiseks. Endiselt väidan, et mõlemad on üks ja see sama.
--- joone alune mõte.
Oleneb kuidas me jumala Hingeelu mõistame, et kas me saame aru, et Jumal ainult head tahab, teeb ja otsustab mis sellel hetkel on õige
ning ta on turvaline oma Loomingi osas, et see tema õiglasemale teele suunab kui vaja,
sest ta on kuulekas ja arukas ja tark, ka.
Osad inimesed muidugi arvavad, et jumal ja tema looming on eraldi seisev,
ühed et see Tema Sees ja kolmas, et nad nagu vangis teineteisest sõltuvad heas osas, nagu keha osa..... et jumal sõltub oma loomingust, et tal on seda vaja tema enda eksistentsi jaoks ja selle pärast, ta loob seda paremaks ja puhtamaks... see nagu jäse mille saab ta ise maha võtta kuid siis peab uue kasvatama, sest seda vaja..
ja loob inimesi ja olendeid kes selleks samaks loodud - kellest osad vahepeal oma enda moodi toimetada otsustavad kuid ka selle tarvis on kasvatus programmid ja ehk isegi mingi õiglus.
Kuid kui see valu poleks päris mida tehakse kõige hullematel kordadel, siis ei saa ka see patt nii suur olla kes teevad (seda vist paljud protestandid ka osaliselt usuvad, et maine keha teise järguline, et siine valu ja elu, loodus pole nii oluline kui see mis peale seda tuleb.. seega ollakse külm või tagasihoidlik ja üleolev maisete kannatuste osas arvestades, et see on midagi mida need kannatajad ära teeninud ja et need kes pole teeninud need tegelikult seda valu ei tunne... kuid kui on nii, et on päris ja päriselt tunnevad?)24 March 2015 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
Waou!
24 March 2015 01:13
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
The correct sentence is "...only when power is GIVEN to a Women"
Not taken
as You got already power, and to "take it" is TO easy for God, and would destory what you want to build, as man is suecidal.
Man have to evolve, and give what they do not posess first of all only that way they stop huring others and them self.
There is nothing to take.. it is lesson of learning
Not taken
as You got already power, and to "take it" is TO easy for God, and would destory what you want to build, as man is suecidal.
Man have to evolve, and give what they do not posess first of all only that way they stop huring others and them self.
There is nothing to take.. it is lesson of learning
24 March 2015 01:13
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Saab ju teha sedasi, et kulutused peavad olema suunatud, Eesti kanalite (toidud, joogid jms) suunas, mis suur Eestlane sa ikka oled kui omale CoCaColat tellid ja välismaa krõpsu peale närid kohtumisel. Oleks siis veel, et mingi haruldased kvaliteet tooted.
Või kui palgatakse välismaa inimesi (linavalitsusel oli vist sama mees kampaaniat ükskordtegemas kes Venemaal kampaaniaid korraldada aitas valitsejatele. )
Kõik välismaine võiks olla põhjendatud Eesti rahvale, et miks meil seda või seda talenti puudu on,et näe.. luuserid olete Eestlased.. et peame välismaalt elementaarset ostma
oeh23 March 2015 21:07
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Liialt palju populistlike sotsalistlike ideid raha kärpimise osas poliitikutelt, niigi vähe teistel seda, selline mõtlemine annab signaali ka kui raske muude suurte lennukate ideede osas on toimetada.
5 millionit kulutusteks pundi peale ei tundu ülemäärane summa kui seda kasutatakse kanalites mis riigi sisse jääb. Ega ta õhku kao. Juba enne valimisi peaks olema selge kes kellega algselt plaanid olla pundis kui oled väikepartei, mitte seda ei hakata avastama paari kuu jooksul valimiste ajal või lõpus.
See peaks olema iga partei eeskirjas kes pole riigikogus rohkem kui 5 kohaga kunagi olnud, et milliste suurparteide poolt nad on ning seda selgelt ka näitama. Muidu oled ju mingi mõttetu kann kes loto tõenäosusega vast saab kuskile ja siis osutub vajalikuks kui üks ja teine otsustab nad oma punti võtta.
See kui oled ametlikult ühe poolt, ja Sind kutsutakse liituma teiste pundiga peaks olema täiskasvanud inimestel ka täiesti vastuvõetav, sest kui Eesti juhtimiseks punti kokku paned, sis pole vahet kus erakonnast üksikuid inimesi endale korjad mida arvad vajalik olema, senikaua kui inimese isiklikud vaated on selged ja ta nõus need linti kinnitama, kui tegu vastuoluliste vaadetega kuid ametipost on selline, kus see ei häiri ega ohusta riiki, siis ka see peaks olema toetatud tegevus,
mitte selline suhtumine, et "saoled küll feminist, ja me teame feministid olema kommarite tööriistad.. seega ma ei lase Sul olla Kultuuriministeeriumi pea kelleks Sa oma suhete, oskuste ja ambitsiooni jaosk kõige paremini sobiksid, pigem paneme mingi suvalise kes seda asja teoorias õppinud ainult..." .. kuid nii tehakse, liialt palju,
sest kujutatakse ette, et see parem vasak teema on olulisem kui Uskliku ja Usu vastase maailma vaate ja käsitluse vahe. Seda vahet aga nii üliharva julgetakse arvesse võtta, sest selline arulage asi nagu "usu vabadus" on, millega esile tuldud, nagu oleks hea asi.
Võiks siis veel olla ju ka "riigi vastasuse vabadus" (Kaitseväkke) ja "lasteahistaja vabadus" (kui keegi lasteaeda tahab tööle minna) või muud sellist.
Kui inimene on Usu vastane, siis mitmed miljardid inimesed võtavad seda inimest arvesse kui potentsiaalselt lihtsasti hirmutatavaks (kollide, valede ja luuludega), kergesti ära ostetavaks (uhkuse, häbi ja tunnustuse vajaduse kaudu) ning eelkõige peetakse seda inimest Looduse vastaseks sest enamasti neil puudub Pidev globaalne ja isikuline arusaam ja mõistmine, mida inim liigile tegelikult läheb vaja.
Ja siis on täiesti sigaduslik, olla usuvabadel võrdsetena (ka veel tagatipuks) riiki valitsemas,
kui inimene väidab, et allub Jumala seadustele siis on vähemalt kindel reeglistik, mis tuhandeid aastaid toiminud ja mille kaudu saab iga laps kui vaja nendes seadustes eksinu maha võtta mis iganes positsioonilt, teoorias vähemalt, millegi pärast suur osa usklikest ise ka ennast häbenevad ja ei julge kasutusse panna isegi oma kiriku peade osas pidevat inimese paremaks lihvimist ja vaimu teravdamist või positsioonilt eemaldamist kui ta inimestel haigutada laseb oma jutlustel.23 March 2015 21:03
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
(WaffaDrunker kanalil mõned videod veel mul vanast ajast, osa siiani arvutis kuskil, mingi video kohta öeldi, et internetist maha võtaks ja et põhjustei küsiks... ise midagi erilist selles ei märganud ja võtsin sõbra soovitusel maha, kuid muidu jah.huvitavad ajad ka siis olid..)
tol ajal olin veel habemetu:
http://www.rate.ee/show.php?id=8766149http://www.rate.ee/show.php?id=8766149
23 March 2015 20:28
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
nostalgiat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcM0G15r80E
(kanalil mõned videod veel mul vanast ajast, osa siiani arvutis)
Alati Ustavhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcM0G15r80E
23 March 2015 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oma pesa punumine on veel kaugel ees, siis kui näen, et maailm on valmis, meis endis.. või kui kesa juba on kus oodatakse vooderdajat
23 March 2015 18:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Õde tead ju ise ka, et Ainult mõned kuud ema juures olnud, kuid eks see vastastikune vajalikus, nüüd aeg mõnel teisel lapsel oma emast hoolima hakata peale väikevenna. Eks olukord läheb aina raskemaks neil kes ei usu enam, abisse. Eriti kui ümberkaudsed toetavad pattu ja ei julgusta abi vastu võtma.
Kui palgata hooldaja ja psühholoogiline nõustaja ning preester igale inimesele kellele vaja.. siis läheks kalliks ja tülikaks . Kuid kui ressursse on siis miks mitte, senikaua aga peab minuga leppima kuid ainult senikaua kui ise soovitakse.
Vahest need kes kutsuvad, ise unustavad peagi ära, et sai kutsutud kui hakatakse tõele näkku vaatama ning nendele valeelu osadele õrnalt rõhku panema, meelde tuletama, et see pole nende enda teha mida ja kuidas maakeral elatakse. Sest ega Ainult see mind kõige enam huvitab, oluliste tõdede selgitamine, füüsilise abi pakkumisega saavad pea kõik inimesed hakkama. Kõik saab ju enne surma palju rohkem paremaks kui lõpetatakse teesklemine, et lahendused on kohe siin ja praegu olemas ning probleemid ka.
Ma ise Nagu ränd munk, kuid omas kuues, lähen kuhu vaim viib ja selle juurde kes kutsub. Ega ma küsigi mis vaim, teal lihtsalt, et Kui vaja siis jään elama.
Jah kodutu ka juba ammuseid aastaid, sest tõepoolest nägin ju kuidas saab raha teenida kuid siis olulise jaoks niipalju ei jätkunud aega enam.
Kuidas siis muidu maid olen jaganud ja näinud (vist?) rohkem kui enamus Eesti ministrid, ju seda ka vaja ja väärtus seegi elus, eks?
Mai, See pakkumine, mitte otsimine otseselt, kuigi peaks otseselt otsima ka vist, sest ega rahva elus hoidmise toimetamise ja isiku parandamise, ette valmistamine surma osas, selle eest suurt palka ei küsi
kuna see elementaarne asi millega inimesed tegeleda võiksid kellele meeldib oluline, kuid mida rohkem vabadust kätes tegemaks seda mida vaja, seda rohkem tehtud saab.
Eks muidugi katuse all saab rohkem tehtud kui tänaval (kuid mitte alati) ja surnuna vähem kui elusana ( ka selles osas erandeid). Kui elu ei soovita kasutama hakata suuremalt, et kõik vabamaks saaks, eriti-puuduliku-usu-puhul,
ja ma pole ise mingi Õige usklik ju praeguses valikus..., ma miinimum standard millest alla poole on iga hinge usu asi ikka väga ebasünnis juba (vist eks?), sest parem olemine minust on väga lihtsaks tehtud, eriti nendel kellel stabiilne katus juba olemas.). Kuid valitakse materiaalne ja pannakse uks kinni ning ekslikult arvatakse, et ongi kõik olemas kui saab järgmine päev tööle minnna mida isegi tasuta suurem osa ei teeks oma praeguses olekus.
Kuid Selle asemel investeeritakse jätkuvalt vaba aeg lobale ja meele-Lahutusele. Mõni isegi kirub oma enda pere, maad ja inimesi taga rääkimata muust ilmast ja loomingust. Ega soovist naabriga läbi saada. Rääkimata Suurest käsust .
Kuid jah. ikka ja jälle.. soovitakse oma
oi pikaks läks.. unustan kirjutama ennast sedasi, kuid eks see puänt ka mingi aeg tule.
Kuid seniks lihtsalt pakkumine, tagastus garantiiga, seniks kui keegi soovib, odavam kui enamus abistavad teenused mille peale investeeritakse, keegi kellelt küsida võib kõike ja kellega kokku puutudes alati saad olla kindla ligidal, et õige elu osas mingi mõtte osas saad lähemale. Ning tempel mällu igaveseks (ka vist).
Kui palgata hooldaja ja psühholoogiline nõustaja ning preester igale inimesele kellele vaja.. siis läheks kalliks ja tülikaks . Kuid kui ressursse on siis miks mitte, senikaua aga peab minuga leppima kuid ainult senikaua kui ise soovitakse.
Vahest need kes kutsuvad, ise unustavad peagi ära, et sai kutsutud kui hakatakse tõele näkku vaatama ning nendele valeelu osadele õrnalt rõhku panema, meelde tuletama, et see pole nende enda teha mida ja kuidas maakeral elatakse. Sest ega Ainult see mind kõige enam huvitab, oluliste tõdede selgitamine, füüsilise abi pakkumisega saavad pea kõik inimesed hakkama. Kõik saab ju enne surma palju rohkem paremaks kui lõpetatakse teesklemine, et lahendused on kohe siin ja praegu olemas ning probleemid ka.
Ma ise Nagu ränd munk, kuid omas kuues, lähen kuhu vaim viib ja selle juurde kes kutsub. Ega ma küsigi mis vaim, teal lihtsalt, et Kui vaja siis jään elama.
Jah kodutu ka juba ammuseid aastaid, sest tõepoolest nägin ju kuidas saab raha teenida kuid siis olulise jaoks niipalju ei jätkunud aega enam.
Kuidas siis muidu maid olen jaganud ja näinud (vist?) rohkem kui enamus Eesti ministrid, ju seda ka vaja ja väärtus seegi elus, eks?
Mai, See pakkumine, mitte otsimine otseselt, kuigi peaks otseselt otsima ka vist, sest ega rahva elus hoidmise toimetamise ja isiku parandamise, ette valmistamine surma osas, selle eest suurt palka ei küsi
kuna see elementaarne asi millega inimesed tegeleda võiksid kellele meeldib oluline, kuid mida rohkem vabadust kätes tegemaks seda mida vaja, seda rohkem tehtud saab.
Eks muidugi katuse all saab rohkem tehtud kui tänaval (kuid mitte alati) ja surnuna vähem kui elusana ( ka selles osas erandeid). Kui elu ei soovita kasutama hakata suuremalt, et kõik vabamaks saaks, eriti-puuduliku-usu-puhul,
ja ma pole ise mingi Õige usklik ju praeguses valikus..., ma miinimum standard millest alla poole on iga hinge usu asi ikka väga ebasünnis juba (vist eks?), sest parem olemine minust on väga lihtsaks tehtud, eriti nendel kellel stabiilne katus juba olemas.). Kuid valitakse materiaalne ja pannakse uks kinni ning ekslikult arvatakse, et ongi kõik olemas kui saab järgmine päev tööle minnna mida isegi tasuta suurem osa ei teeks oma praeguses olekus.
Kuid Selle asemel investeeritakse jätkuvalt vaba aeg lobale ja meele-Lahutusele. Mõni isegi kirub oma enda pere, maad ja inimesi taga rääkimata muust ilmast ja loomingust. Ega soovist naabriga läbi saada. Rääkimata Suurest käsust .
Kuid jah. ikka ja jälle.. soovitakse oma
oi pikaks läks.. unustan kirjutama ennast sedasi, kuid eks see puänt ka mingi aeg tule.
Kuid seniks lihtsalt pakkumine, tagastus garantiiga, seniks kui keegi soovib, odavam kui enamus abistavad teenused mille peale investeeritakse, keegi kellelt küsida võib kõike ja kellega kokku puutudes alati saad olla kindla ligidal, et õige elu osas mingi mõtte osas saad lähemale. Ning tempel mällu igaveseks (ka vist).
23 March 2015 17:28
Margus Meigo commented on Mahajäetud majad - Eestis's photo.
Kas see endiselt saadaval.. peaks sisse kolima... : )
23 March 2015 09:19
Margus Meigo commented on Aitäh, aga minu traditsiooniline perekond ei vaja kaitset's photo.
Miks siin pentagramm viisnurgad on logos ?? Olge hea, võtke ära, sest olenematta mitte soovist kaitsta sest püsib niigi, on siisnurk aegade algusest olnud seotud pere vastalisusega, pealiskaudse materialismi ja sõdadega Tihti inimesed mõtlevad omale nagu oma tähenduse välja.. kuid see viisnurk ikka mõjub viisnurgana aju jaoks kui ta sellise kujundi registreerib.
Lisaks.. see lihtsalt.. sõjaline ja musta maagia sümbol (suurel osal sõja lemmelistel lippudel, cia jms ). Sumerite ajast juba selle märgi tähendus oli pahaendeline.
Südamed või lilled on PALJU ilusamad, ja loogilisemad ja sobilikumad
Lisaks.. see lihtsalt.. sõjaline ja musta maagia sümbol (suurel osal sõja lemmelistel lippudel, cia jms ). Sumerite ajast juba selle märgi tähendus oli pahaendeline.
Südamed või lilled on PALJU ilusamad, ja loogilisemad ja sobilikumad
23 March 2015 07:38
Margus Meigo commented on Aitäh, aga minu traditsiooniline perekond ei vaja kaitset's link.
ILus video, kuid mind huvitab kuidas selist hallides kenades värvides Yt koodi saada oma lehele
23 March 2015 07:25
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kuid karm värk muidu eksju, ?
Sest nagu ma ei ole kindel ,et päriselt südameid puudutada jõudsin. pointiga, et INGLISMAA enda valitsus ise, terve suuri linnaosi sedasi majandab... ja ehitab.. kus suur hulk musta maagia all..
reisides 7 miili teisele poole .. kus kuninganna.. see oli hoopis midagi muud, inimesed ka muud..
esimese hooga seda ei oleks osanud vist tunnetadagi.. kuid midagi imelikku selle vabamüürluse 1717 ehitatud peahoone ümber toimub..
(näiteks selle suure hoone ees tänaval meeletu suur pentagramm, millest inimesed üle astuvad (umbes 3-4 meetrine)) kuid kui peatad inimesi ja küsid, siis tuleb välja, et isegi elades selles kohanud seda märganud pole ja isegi pole märganud seda meletu ilamtu suurt hoonet, et see müürluse pea hoone, ... see oli eriti veider.
Oli inimesi kes peaaegu selle hoone ees olid valmis väitlema, et vabamüürlasi polegi olemas tegelikult :D:D23 March 2015 07:10
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ma elasin koos ju VÄga vasaku pooltega aegajalt.. oma silmaga nähtud ja kõrvaga tuntud ja verega maitstud
nende maailma puhastuse plaanid on palju suuremad, kuid nadei saa ennast aktiviseerida kui piisavalt kiilakaid raudlatiga pedesi taga ei aja. ... sest nad saadavad Su vastu kõigepealt su oma inimesed. Irivtades kuidas te teineteist madistate. ...ja kuidas Su oma inimesed veendumust saavad parem äärmusluse alaarengust.. kuid sellega, kes nad ise on ju südames.. võideldes.. kurnavad ennast piisavalt.. et neile seljatagant sõpradenaja eest mass "pääste armeedega" tullakse.. kuid alles siis kui tekitatud parem äärmuslased on oma töö teinud, kas nad on "võitnud" või kaotanud.. see on täiesti teise järguline, sest selleks ajaks nad .. võideldes oma enda inimeste vastu.. nad tõestanud, et tõde ei tea, religiooset.. seega neid maha võtta on lihtne ja kohustus ka, aidata.. neil päris suurtel võimudel... kellele küll ei meeldi vasak (ehk siis Greeka-Rooma mõttemaailm, nagu meie koolisüsteem mis purupunane) .. kuid keda teatakse kuidas sundida moraalse valiku tegema ja oma enda inimesed eemaldama, valutumalt..
ja nii nad nagu käsipesu pestes.. järjest rohkem sugunevad, siginevad, paljunevad... kuniks me enam ei mõista mis on piirid ja vabadus.. hakkame ise taimedega kaubitsejaid vangi panema sest need taimed vanu tõdesi toob meelde.. ja asume sööma mida iganes ette pannakse küsimatta milist vaimu toitu meil vaja läheb.. ja kus ravime zombiliklt kuid ei uuri kuidasja miks haigused päriselt tulevad.... ja ... oh needajad päris käes juba ju..23 March 2015 07:05
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Märt just sellised sildid ongi vaskapoolsete tehtud, ja nende mõttemaailm, ega see siis kedagi vähem punaseks ei tee kui ta punaste moodustatud rahvuslike gruppide poolt ennast surma gruppide liikmeks kleebib mis peaks nottima maha siis punaste (Rooma-Greeka aka kommarite impeerium) arvates
"mõttetut punaseid massi, neid keda vaja propagandaks kasutada ja neid keda me ise puutuda ei saa.."
just selliseid silte meeles mõtlengi.. kui tahad päriselt ravida vasakut poolt, ka meie oma ajus seda poolkere, siis ikka vaja looduse poole minna ja tarvilike taimi tarbida mis sinu meeled piisavalt puhtamaks teeb, et saad hakata südame puhastusega tegelema,
muidugi on miskid muud ingelolendid ka kes ime teha oskavad ja Zen tarkused... kuid jah, ma suts radikaalne ses suhtes ja pole liialt pikalt kannatust suure hulga üksikisikutega.
Kes endiselt toodavad rämpsu ühiskonda lurpides alkoholi ja suitsu ja siis oma arust võitlevad "vasaku poole" vastu xD
Huumor ruudus enamuste vaimsete inimeste silmis kui seda kurbade koomiute massi vaatame ja seda kuidas neid sellisteks kasvatatakse, et siis just tänu neile saaks kõri veel koomale rohkem tõmmata normaalsetel inimestel kes päriselt teavad, kuidas kollidest lahti saada, ilma püssi pauguta.23 March 2015 06:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
JA eks Sa proovi neid ameerika viisnurke siit pärast välja saada kui soovid.. see juba oleks solvamine ja mingi väike riik solvab ameerika maailma päästjate ego.. seda võetakse väga isiklikult.. ja oma võimu näitamist nad saavad ka nii mitut moodi teha, et selleks pole meil veel kataloogi tehtud, loetlemaks kõike nippe mida see rooma impeeriumi teine pool kõike teha oskab ja suudab kui soovib,
teades.. kes suudab juhendada enamust meediat ja internette..
Kuid jah, sõber peab olema selles mõttes, et mõlemat õpetada..
selgitada hästi aeglaselt.. "Pulli küla.. 8500+ aastat tagasi... Rae apteek ... 1415..." "USA: Discovery of the American continent in 1492.." nu ja needolid ka hispaanlased mitusada aastat.. kes ka filipiinid hävitasid..
siis veel võib lisada listi terve rida 1500+ aasta vanuseid Jaapani firmasi või mainida, et aastatel 1300 kuni 1450 asutatud saksamaa firmades on üle 40ne siiani töös ja edukad.
See peaks ju ikka kuidagi tibu maha tõmbama mis puhvile ajatud kui praegused viimase 1000 aasta jooksul tekitatud suur impeeriumid endast kujutama miskit hakkavad (sh. venemaa).
Ja kui kuid edasi kallistame, siis jääme ka järgnevaks inimloomingute aegadeks elama, nii vähemalt usume, sest siiani on toiminud.23 March 2015 06:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ei
23 March 2015 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kuid ma arvan, et mõlemad on õiged.
Mul selgitus ka miks, kirjutasin selle kunagi üles poolikult.. vaatan kas leian enne kui peast uuesti kirjutama hakkan. Ehk oli hea kirjutus.
Poole sammuga Kaido t ka toetasin kuni viimase lausepaarini..
Aga mina oma vaheküsimusele veel vastust ei saanud (Õpetussõnad 8:27..31 osas, et kes räägib eelkõige. Ning kas mees ja nais poolus koos kõige selle kaasnevaga on Jumalas endas olemas kui ta meid tegi enda sarnaseks...).22 March 2015 14:53
Margus Meigo commented on Gert Trash Moser's photo.
See on ilusaim sündmus mida internetis pikka aega näinud olen : )
22 March 2015 13:48
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Tamme's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Positasin juba selle uudise ju...
Kuid jah, need hirmu lood.
Ega need tulnukad ei luba neil pommitama hakata nagunii viimase 15 aasta uudiste põhjal mis välja tulnud (et seadmed ise lülituvad välja, kaotavad juhitavuse, elekter kaob ära jms isegi suurtemate testide aeg) + tulevad sõnumid erinevat moodi, et "ära tee"22 March 2015 09:14
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Oluline kõik see, saamaks aru mida meie sõber Inglismaa tegelikult teeb ja plaanib, ning mida toodab.
Need üle maailmsed projektid ja tõepoolest, inimestel on pähe pandud et "Kuna see on äri hoone siis seda võib võtta üle kuna seadus on selline, seega MEIE ei eksi vaid politsei ja paha valitsus kes meid ülekohtuselt pahade rikaste pärast tänavale tulevad viskama"
(mis muidugi inimeste suhtes, kellest suur osa sõprus suhetes minuga, ma tunnen kaasa, sest nad manipuleeriti sellese olukorda, paljudel veel rikkad vanemad ka... ja mõned pikalt tänaval ja mõned muu kehaise või vaimse puudega,ning siis sedasi manipuleeritakse neid, lastakse kodu tunne tekitada ja siis tullakse sisse murdma .. suurt showd tegema... nii mitu levelit manipulatsiooni, et anna olla. Mind õnneks keegi ei suutnud siduda ocupiga kuid sain ühe metalli ärikaga kokku, kes venelane, suur ja asjalik mees.. kes on siis enda sõnul üks algsetest Occupy alustajatest Inglismaal.. (nad oma bussiga ka majades käisid neid torudest ja asjadest puhtaks tegemas.. aegajalt,neil veel oma lukumeistrid ja palju muud.. ) )
Isegi politsei jaoskondadesse murti samamoodi sisse ja maha jäetud haiglatesse .
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Ja seda, et neil väidetavalt üle poole miljoni tühja hoone on ... mida saaks kasutada, aga ei kasutata.. see veel omamoodi kiiks.. andku hiinlastele äri jaoks kasvõi tasuta äripinda või miskit..22 March 2015 09:13
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Just Erkki Liba, see oligi mul üks põhi haridus programme mida ma proovisin neile anarco kommunistidele selgeks teha, et kas see pole kahtlane, et riik teid ise tekitab ja meelega kasvatab,,,
Kuid nad vihast nii pimestatud olid, et deliiriumis tõsiselt arvasid, et see nende enda tekitatud võim ja edu mille vastu riik ei saa (kuigi see ilmselge, et meid meelega hoiti teatud kohtades, )
Alguses veel selline seadus alles mõned aastad tagasi oli inglise maal, et kui sa kodust ära lähed (ehk tundub, et oled rohkem kui paariks päevaks läinud) siis on lubatud sisse murda Su majasse ning sinna karjas asuma jääda ja saad ainult siis tagasi oma kodu kui kohtusse annad ja kohtus võidad (kogu selle aja nad võivad su kodus teha mida soovivad..võtta asju ja...)
Selle seaduse muudatuse, et "nüüdsest võid sisse murda ainult äri hoonetesse" peale oldi nii tigedad, ja siiamaani räägitakse, et on ikka fassistlik valitsus, mille peab maha võtma... et sellised inim vaenulikud.. ei luba rikaste majadesse sisse murda enam...
MA ise ka kohtus kaasas käinud ja mõned kohtu paberid ka võtsin kaasa, ühest kuningannale kuuluvast hoonest mille enda kasutuse võtsime
Väga ulme tundub alguses, nii ulme, et enams kohalikud inimesed ka aru ei saa ega ei usu, et nii on, enne seda kui juhtub.
Ahjaa, ja kui oma majasse sisse tahad ennast murda või trikitada ilma pättide loata, siis neil õigus sind rünnata ja sulle politsei kutsuma kes su ära viib.
Kuid see kõik on liga vähe.. sest seda anti maitsta allmaailmale.. ja siis sutsu nagu võetakse ära nüüd õigusi.. ja siis suured valitsuse vastased aktsioonid ja sala plaanid käivad, kuni relva ja pommide õpetusteni metsades kus olime, et fassistide vastu võidelda (ja ikka viha suunatakse kuninganna vastu mitte selle valitsuse punase osa vastu otseselt, kes nendega manipuleerib)
Näe ma siin, selles uudises ka:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580 (Bob Marley lemmik baar)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-iWkAgtiYk British Telecomi vana pea hoone, keset linna kus peale 3-4 kuulist elamist alles maskides politsei meid välja tuli viskama, peale seda kui nad sisse murdsid (siin ka meie hoone peaks olema jutuks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK_eGdsPKmA )
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR0Jl_T_BXw siin see rääkija on phonix rising homode eest seisjate grupid jms )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH9ms-8PM-A (video lõpus ka mina.. selline armaada me välja saatmiseks kohale tuli... vahest isegi ei saadud hakkama, sest meil oli luba tagasi võidelda, vat kui viisakad politseid, kujuta ette kui )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi6dfWXefcc (minutist 29 ma videos, ühe teise maja võtluse videod selle sama tänava nimega seoses tulevad.. siis näed omakorda, millist teatrit mendid teevad.. selle asemel, et aknast sisse minna, lõhutakse metall ust maha 4-5 tundi )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9uw1Rsc-Pw siin uudistes see sama, kui kuula millise vinguva häälega tehakse.. retoorika juurde pandud, nagu suurt ülekohut ilmtingimatta tehakse (kuid noh, jutul veel teine pool ka seega jah.. pikaks läheb :P )http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20129580
22 March 2015 09:06
Margus Meigo commented on Rait Kukk's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ei tasu teha väljamõeldud skeeme "kui ca 68% sissetulekust läheb niigi riigile" kus liidad kõik need maksud ka enda otsa mida juba teised SInu eest ära maksnud. Ja pangale maksavad need kes sellega nõustusid. Mina ei nõustunud enam ja ei maksa ka. 20 000 oli.
Veel palju mõtetuid numbreid:
Firmadele:
japanis 38%, filipiinidel, indias ja mehikos 30, Itaalias, Ukrainas, Hiinas, Koreas - kõigil rohkem kui meil
tõepoolest need numbris suts kasutudsedasi, kuid kui nüüd nendele % veel need % otsa panna mida siin eestis armastatakse.. panna.. siis tuleks välja, et osades maades makstakse maksu rohkem kui raha saavad (maad mida me rikkaks kutsume) kuid see ju pole võimalik, seega igat % ka ei saa igale poole otsa panna, ega siis enamustes maades maailmas kõik toidud maksuvabad pole ja teenused tasuta.. et siis veel:
Isiku maksud maksimaalselt:
Soomes jaTaanis on üöe 6o%,
Norras, USAs, Portugalis 55% ringis
Hollandis, Isrealis, Jaapnais, Kanaadas 50%
Prantsusmaa, Saksamaa, Inglismaa, Italia 45%
Firma omanikele on ainult suur maksukoormus pandud, mis on 33%, kuid see on ikkagi Prantsusmaal 66%, Greekas, Tsekis, Saksamaal üle 40%, Türgis, Lätis, ja isegi Hungaris ja Ukrainas rohkem kui meil, kuigi.. jah, see meil ikkagi kõrge. Mida firma omanikud maksma peavad.
Müügi tulu meil 9% voi 20%
Kuigi ka see on Leedus, Lätis suurem (ilma 9% erandita), Italias, Sloveenias, Hollandis, Skandinaavia maades ka suurem (kuigi noh, olenevalt todetest on ka odavam osad asjad, näiteks meditsiini pealt võetakse 5% hungaris ainult või farmi toodete pealr vähem mõnes muus riigis)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates
Loomulikult saan aru, et kaval-ants on meid orgi otsa ajanud, kuid kui oleksime vana viisi ehitanud puumaju ja mitte linna tormanud, hoidnud Küla elu töös mitte lasknud kommaritel ära kurnada masinatega ja täis joota me inimesed, et neid järgmise põlvkonnaga lõhkuda... siisme ju siin poleks,
Kuid ikka siin meil meeldib OMA riiki süüdistada ja ise mitte vastutust võtta, rahvana ja kaasa tunda riigile, sest tema kannatas kõige rohkem ju.
Vaata millise vinguva rahva karja ta endale tekitanud on. Kes vaatamata sellele, et neil on kingiks üks parim maa (mitte alati kergeim kui järjelt ära oled) kus elada .. võtavad vaevaks ikka RIIGI peale tige olla selle asemel, et suurelt aru saada, et see pole Eesti Riik siin kes Su vastu on, vaid SUURED välis jõud, kes meelega meie riiki siin sedasi on sudinud, et meil kerge poleks.. ja seni kuni me ise oma riigi isasi ei vaevu õpetama ja aitama täis südamega.. seni nad ju ei saa ka teada, kuidas meie leusi korraldada ja kuidas meid kaitsta erinevate vanade trikkide ja välisohtude eest, eksju.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates
22 March 2015 08:35
Margus Meigo commented on Rait Kukk's post.
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Meie maksud on enamuste riikidega võrreldes ka, kas mitte ühed väiksemad tegelikult? (okey oleneb mida vaadata, kuid kindlasti mitte igas skaalas me pole hulleimad, arvestades, et suudame hoida enast välisvõlast vabana)
Muidugi ainuke muutus mida ma soovitaks oleks 90% maksu tagastus kõikidele kes vaesuspiiris elavad, eriti invaliididele kuigi see suts liiga sotsialistlik,et kui puue siis sa eelistatum.., kuigi, filosoofiliselt see jah õiglane, et kõik maksavad sama suurt %,
Maksu vabastust ei teeks, sest siis kaoks see hariduse osa ära, kohustus riigi maksusüsteemist osa võtta (kuigi ma otseselt makse ei toeta, siis saanaru, et kui nad on, siis nad vajalikud kohusetunde tekitamiseks ja inimese aju arendmaiseks, mõistmaks, et ta ka riigi arengus on panuse andnud.)
Kui täiesti uue majanduse ja hariduse inimestele oma kodu armastuse osas oleme toimima saanud, siis tasub alles riskida maksude rohkema eemaldamisega... kuid jah,
usklikuna siin pole muud midagi öelda, kui et Kirikule te 10% ei soovinud maksta... eks nüüd makste siis nii,et on süsteemile igaasja eest..
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Kuid võin öelda nagu maire aunaste, et ma ei tea sellest maksu asjadest midagi, kuid räägin ikkagi :D
Sest noh, niipalju vähemalt tundub, et kuigi kergeim ei ole igas vallas ja kõigil... on üldiselt ikka parem kui enamustes kohtades kellel selline elu standard kus arvutid ja nutitelefonid on tava elu osa, kus enamustel inimestel on külmkapp ja kus auto pole rikkuse märk vaid tavaline asi.
Et selliste maade listis olles juba, me eliit maad, rikkad,
(samas mitte oles oma hinge täielikult müünud veel.. ja samas elus oles veel.. jaaustatud välimusega,veel.. ... et me ikka heal, potentsiaalsel suurel kohalmaailma ajaloos, veel..)22 March 2015 08:21
Margus Meigo commented on Rait Kukk's post.
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See valem on IGAL riigil sama mille järgiseda arvestatakse,
ning meie selles olukorras VEEL paremal kohal, sest meil on meedia osaliselt veel vaba (üks vabamaid maailmas jällegi, tegelikult) ning meil on ka internet üks vabamaid maailmas (ja kätte saadavamaid).
Meil on ka üks maailma haritum rahvas ja meie haridus taseme vahe võnge (kõige madalama hariduse ja keskmise hariduse vahe) on ka üks maailma ideaalsemaid mis olla saab.
Lisaks selle kõige juures on meil üks maailma odavamiadharidussüsteeme suurriikide ja muude kõrgelt haritud riikidega võrreldes.
Muidugi praegune süsteemhakkab ära vajuma kui me kohe õigeid õpetajaid peale ei saa ja õpetajate palka 2-3 korda ei tõsta vähemalt, kuid see selleks.22 March 2015 07:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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( vahemärkuseks veel: Ärge SEDA teemat siin liialt tõsiselt võtke ja ärge juurde kommenteerige kui just midagi lisa pole selle teema osas, mida vaja, las vajub alla poole.. )
Kuid jah, mina soojalt soovitan igal inimesel vaimu-hinge rohtusi, tugevaid hallotosgeene hoida kodus, mina oma usu paneks lisaks piiblile ka sinna, et muudes aja ruumides viibida see aeg.. ei oska veel seletada kuidas see kasulik on, kuid küll kunagi õigeks ajaks välja mõtlen, kui sellel miski tõsi taga on.22 March 2015 07:50
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" 50Mt, which is believed to be equivalent to the explosive power from the simultaneous detonation of 3,800 Hiroshima bombs.
see oli peale seda kui
These lead tampers cut the bomb's yield by 50 percent but they also eliminated 97 percent of the resulting fallout. As such the Tsar Bomba, the largest, most destructively powerful device ever built by man also holds the notable distinction of being the relatively "cleanest" nuclear weapon ever tested. Luckily, that record was only important for two years until the signing of the Partial Test Ban Treaty which brought an end to above-ground nuclear weapons tests.
OKey see pomm 60ndatest on siis ikkagi "keelu all" kuid midagi nagu muud oli neil mis just oli kirjas, et see edukam oleks ja soovi korral oleks lubatud kasutada... muidugi tolle aegsed need on sellised kolakad, et eks sa proovi neid lennutada kuskile, lastakse juba poole lennu aeg alla isegi kui 2000 tühja kesta, decoid koos lendama paned
http://www.army-technology.com/features/featurethe-biggest-and-most-powerful-nuclear-weapons-ever-built-4206787/http://www.army-technology.com/features/featurethe-biggest-and-most-powerful-nuclear-weapons-ever-built-4206787/
22 March 2015 07:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Muidu Venemaa veel selle triki tegi, et ta mingi tuuma pommi sarnase pommi, vesinikpommid ja miskit tegi mis selle seaduse alla ei lähe, et mis keelab tuuma relvi kasutamast. Ja ega need raketikilbid biorelvade eest ei kaitse.. ning kui nõrke torme või maavärinaid suudetakse ehk tulevikus tekitada mis need kilbi asukohad kasutuks teevad
Wikis weel sinu lingist.
"Missile defenses are vulnerable to supersonic missile vehicles which travel at speeds high enough to outmaneuver missile defenses. China is among the countries pursuing supersonic vehicles as missile delivery systems."
"2012, Russia's top military officer has threatened to carry out a pre-emptive strike on U.S.-led NATO missile defense facilities in Eastern Europe if Washington goes ahead with its controversial plan to build a missile shield. Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov also warned that.."
Kuid noh, usal laser tehnoloogia peaks ka päris kiirelt arenema (praegu mis testisid 100% efektiivsusega võike rakettide peal ja üks lask maksis alla dollari)
ja sellega saab ka head teha, kui nad selle süsteemi kosmosesse saavad kuhu raudselt ka pannakse - sest noh, maa pealt vist see kasulik ainult siis kui piisavalt lähedale jõuab (maa kumeruse tõttu) ... samas eks nad pane neid terve euroopa täis ka. seega pole muret.
Kuid noh siis lõpuks keegi peab ju omakorda veel kosmoses boss olema.. ei saa kaks potentsiaalset vaenlast korraga olla kosmoses ju tehnoloogiaga.. see veider oleks.22 March 2015 07:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Et kõige labasem kasu oleks, et siis inimesed vastumeelsust tunneksid oma Riigi suhtes, kuid see natukene ju ... umbes nagu paneks küüni põlema, et suitsule tuld saada.22 March 2015 07:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Imbi Paju seda nüüd küll, et on kuid seda ma tahtsingi teada, et kas see alati surm kindlalt siis Kremli enda kasu on (ja MIS on kasu millisel trollimisel,) või on siin ka võimalusi, et kellelgi teisel veel kasulik see.
Ning lisaks kas see suunatud kõrgemate ametnike hirmutamiseks läbi rahva või otse, või siis otse kõrgematele või inimeste ainult.
Sest kui endal plaani päriselt rünnata poleks, siis ma ei näe mingit kasu venemaa poolt (või kes iganes tahab, et lääne ilm süüdlasena jääks) selliseid kodulehti teha ja inglismaa meedias seda levitada.
Et siis jääb tava inimeste meeltesse, kuidas üks pool on proovinud ja proovinud ja siis kui nüüd teine pool - Vene vastu annab siis see saab tõlgendada kui kaitse või tagasilöök (mis siis omakorda, maailma päästis, Aatom kullakene vahva ja võimsalt hea, nagu lauldi)
Läänele see kasu vene hirmutamiseks, et vaata mida me sinu kohta ajame, et nagu sina ajaks, sügavama hoiatusena (lahti kirjutada läheks pikaks, kuid vähemalt paar stsenaariumit on ka kuidas läänele kasulik selliste asjade välja mõtlemine, nii venemaa pihta kui lääne maailma enda pihta suunatult )
Sest üldine mulje on nagunii jäätud kogu ilmale, kes ühiskonnas pettunud, et läänlased või ameeriklased ise asja taga kui midagi suuresti hapuks läheb.
kuigi, kui isegi sisemis mõistetakse, et Vene närvihaige rünnak siis nõustutakse, et seda just tine pool ootaski, vabandust, et täis võin uuele tasemele viia ilma vaidluseta.
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Muidugi kogu planeedi ühine kord tuleb, see on vältimatu kuid milline seda saame ka meie valida. Ning kui õigesti valime ja suuname siis kohe päris pikaks ajaks rahulikum peaks olema.
Minu jaoks Vene ei koosne venelastest ega Venemaast, vaid see Nomannide ja Vana Greeka-Rooma Vaimu vabaduse vastane projekt - kotka teine pea pool inimeste solgutamiseks ja hirmutamiseks (ning kuna mingi hirm hakkab aegajalt vanaks saama,siis vahepeale tekitatakse igast alkeidasi, isiseid ja terrorisaatoreid, natsionaliste jms ... kuniks saab segadusse aetud rahvale jälle suure muutuse peale panna, liikudes hiiglastega edasi, astudes järgmise lillepeenra peale sõjaväe kirsaga... kuniks kõik õied on tallutud ).22 March 2015 07:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Tõsi Kalev,
Kuid noh, ma ikka sooviks näiteks ette teada, et kui tuleb, ükskõik kui palju ja mida täpsemalt seda parem.. siis teaks kuidas koduste toimetustega teha ja veedaks viimase aja eriti kasulikult.
Kuid noh.. eks see olegi kunsti ja saladus tegelik, et jätkata nii kuidas on, kui tuleb tunni pärast siis ikkagi tuli pliiti ja kartul keema panna ning rahulikult võtta.
Eks neid tuuma sõdasisiin ammu enne ilma ka olnud ja neid edasi kantud, kes õiges meeles olid ja on22 March 2015 07:00
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
Allso Hammer-smith and Full-Ham.. borought.. sounds .. sounds x rated :D
22 March 2015 05:35
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
4 real :D
22 March 2015 05:34
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
carona was like my main fuel back on the days https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1863495743866&set=a.1863491663764.2105367.1135161043&type=3&theater
On neart the island of top secret us missions :D
On neart the island of top secret us missions :D
22 March 2015 05:33
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7b5QyISsB8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7b5QyISsB8
22 March 2015 05:31
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
who is the guy with a bieard, the same guy who was on the birthday party in a fairwield squat?
22 March 2015 05:26
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
like Native jankies
with scalpelles
with scalpelles
22 March 2015 05:25
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
Getting bierdy (Y)
22 March 2015 05:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Elu, armastan sind,
Sulle kuulub mu kiindumus ammu.
Elu, armastan sind,
Ikka uuesti sinusse armun!
Tuhat tuld süütas linn,
Töölt ma väsinult koju nüüd suundun.
Elu, armastan sind
Ning ma soovin, et kaunimaks muutud!
Palju antud meil head:
Õitsev sünnimaa, merede hingus...
Ning ma ammugi tean,
Mis on väärt siira sõpruse kindlus.
Hea, et tunda ma saan,
Kuidas päevade keeris mind haarab!
Elu armastan ma -
Süda innukalt lööb talle kaasa!
Kuulad ööbiku häält,
Suudled lemmikut tähtede valgel.
Annab arm sulle käe
Ning täis õnne sul uus elu algab.
Oma lastega koos
Jälle vallatled nii nagu enne.
Oled kaua veel noor,
Tunned lastegi lastest kord õnne.
Aastad lendavad reas,
Muutud nukraks, kui juustes näed halli.
Elu meeles neid peab,
Kes ta eest oma verd andnud kallist.
Elu, vaimustad mind,
Sulle kevaded laulavad hümni.
Elu, armastan sind
Ning ma loodan, et armastad mindki!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71DNkRaUPvw
Tõsilugu,
Lootus jääb
Sulle kuulub mu kiindumus ammu.
Elu, armastan sind,
Ikka uuesti sinusse armun!
Tuhat tuld süütas linn,
Töölt ma väsinult koju nüüd suundun.
Elu, armastan sind
Ning ma soovin, et kaunimaks muutud!
Palju antud meil head:
Õitsev sünnimaa, merede hingus...
Ning ma ammugi tean,
Mis on väärt siira sõpruse kindlus.
Hea, et tunda ma saan,
Kuidas päevade keeris mind haarab!
Elu armastan ma -
Süda innukalt lööb talle kaasa!
Kuulad ööbiku häält,
Suudled lemmikut tähtede valgel.
Annab arm sulle käe
Ning täis õnne sul uus elu algab.
Oma lastega koos
Jälle vallatled nii nagu enne.
Oled kaua veel noor,
Tunned lastegi lastest kord õnne.
Aastad lendavad reas,
Muutud nukraks, kui juustes näed halli.
Elu meeles neid peab,
Kes ta eest oma verd andnud kallist.
Elu, vaimustad mind,
Sulle kevaded laulavad hümni.
Elu, armastan sind
Ning ma loodan, et armastad mindki!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71DNkRaUPvw
Tõsilugu,
Lootus jääb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71DNkRaUPvw
22 March 2015 05:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
(kuid ma Su põhimõttest sain aru, kui seda hästi mõtlesid, et las topakad peksvad teineteist panniga, peaasi, et normaalsete inimeste tagumikku ei torgi ning meid oma jamadega ei tüüta. )
Ka nõustun sellega, kuid lihtsalt ... kahjuks nad tulevad trambivad meie lille peenral ja kalevad meie elutoas varsti ning panevad meie küünid põlema
Kuid me muidugi, ka teiste õnne valame ja enda õnne saame valatud kui saame aru, et paat on ükskus sõuame, seni kuni on üks. Ja ja Ja
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c06soUwTfU4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c06soUwTfU4
22 March 2015 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Tava inimese hävitamise ja orjastamise pärast ongi see sõda, ega nad siis omavahel niisama ei kemple.
See aegade algusest saati olud Looduse Looja Loomingu ja Vallutjaja-Sissetungia-Masina vaheline konflik.
Mille lahendamine on Jumala poolt antud kõige kallimatele lontrustele, kes kõige targemad kuid samaska kõige vähesema mõistmis raasuga - Meile, meie liigile.
Alustama peame endast (oma liigi vahel rahu saamisega)22 March 2015 04:44
Margus Meigo commented on Rait Kukk's post.
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Ma oskan ilusti suhelda kui inimene minus sümpaatiat tekitab, see tekib päris kiiresti enamasti, ole mureta22 March 2015 04:36
Margus Meigo commented on Rait Kukk's post.
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Rääkides jänkidest,
nemad teavad rääkida, et meil üks maailma väiksem võlg oma riigi rikkusega võrreldes:
GPT: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2186rank.html
Summas: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2079rank.html
(jah, MAAKERAL on veel neli riiki kellel on väiksem võlg kui meil, ja üldse kokku ainult neli riiki kellel pole võlga:
Lienchtenstain (Elanikkond alla 40 000, nelikümend tuhat,
Macau (elanikkond sutsu üle poole millioni,)
Palau (elanikkond umbes 20 000, ja kogu riigi rahaline väärtus kokku umbes 10 millionit dollarit, ehk kogu riigi väärtus kokku jupp maad vähemkui Kruudal )
ja siis veel: Brunei (kogu riigis alla poole millioni inimese ja kogu riigi rahaline seis kokku alla 40 millioni dollari... )))
- jah nemad on suutnud,
jaapan ühe rikkama riigina võlgneb üle 200% riigi väärtusest (eestil veel vähem võlga kui venemaal).
Ehk jah, maailmas seni kuni veel paar riiki on kellel väiksem välisvõlg kui meil, et siis tasub oma riiki jalge alla talluda prääksudes puna kommarite ihnuse põhist totrust?
ahja, see võlg muide on suurem kui 20 mi ja keskerakond soovis seda suurendada
jah, ma tean, on muud näitajad ka, nagu meie SMS võlglased jms ning näitajad, et me eelistame paneel majas elada ma maja asemel, oma armastatud maal, kuid jah.. küll see kiiks ka paraneb... kuigi vist on parem kui teatud sorti inimesed sinna linna oma arenguga jäävad..https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2186rank.html
22 March 2015 04:23
Margus Meigo commented on Rait Kukk's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
See punaste "Näha kuidas reform juhtinud" retoorika on nii iganenud, isegi vahest imestan, et veel nii hästi on suudetud selliste vastaste mõjul vastu pidada. Kumb SINU valik siis on, Jänkid Või punased? EI, siin EI ole muud valikud praegu valida,Sa upsakas. Mõlemad on õiged valikud kui tead kuidas ja mida selle valikuga teha, mul pere ütles selle peale "kui kahe päti vahel pead valima,siis vali kaugeim pätt kes Sul igavesti siin küljeall ei trambi" ... teine võimalus on muidugi Venemaa ära päästa. Eestlased saaksid sellega hakkama küll.
Jänkidest rääkides,
Minnes Sinu "Eesti riigil nii suur võlg" jutu juurde, see tundub suur sest me nii rikas riik, et selline väike summa tundub üüratu, on aga kuhjaga inimesi kellel isiklikult rohkem raha kui meie riigi võlakene.
Kuna me rikkuse ja külluse keskel elame siis me üleolevate ülbikuna kraaksume, et meil üle arust võlts rikkust pole mida mujal maal kes AJUTISE majanduse peal tundub olema teleka saatel kena (sest ega me ise kohal pole käinud ja kui käime siis ainult korralikes linnaosades, jättes omale mulje, et nad ikka hästi elavad.. ise käinud mitmekümnel maal (see kõlab paremini suts kui reaalsus, kuid noh, tehniliselt tõsi..)
ja elanud nii aafrikas, inglismaal kui ameerika all, aasias.. ning noh, meie ikka väga rikkad, võrreldes ühtlaselt vaest rahva massi muude riikide vaese massiga. Kuid maa ala protsendilist loodus lähedust ja eluviisi tarkusi pannes võrdesse muude tehniliste arengute ja vöise pildiga mille saame endast jätta... võrreldes seda muude maadega rämedalt protsendiga.. no siis me ikka tõesti, peaaegu nagu Hüperborea ...
ja noh.. on neid kes just selle pärast seda maad siin soovibki, et arvab siin see uks sinna olema.. pss, tibu tibu ära näita )22 March 2015 04:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja sis arvatakse, et mina ütlen karmisti liialt.
22 March 2015 04:04
Margus Meigo commented on Rait Kukk's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kuid Kalev, ära isiklikult võta, see käis nende vaimuosakeste pihta mis võõrad ja mille külge proovitakse pookida,
mitte polnud karmid sõnad Sinu kui selle suunas kes soovib olla inimesest Eestlane.
Väga suur vahe on, mida inimestele kõikidest tele ja raadio jaamadest 1-2 minuti jooksul teatatakse vastavalt sellele kes pukis on ja kuidas, kui see viimane moment on kus veel midagi teatada saab.
Ets poleks ka sõnanud ehk neid sõnu kui talle kõrval olevad tugevad naised küünarnukiga ribidesse poleks andnud, et "Loe seda"
(või tulid need Sõnad tema enda, südamest ja meelest?)
Kuid jah, suures mõttes Sul õigus... et "pole vahet" selle pärast, et me teeme ka ilma elektrita mida vaja, sest teame vanu Eesti Südame laule ja kelle poole käed tõsta, teame, et lõplik reaalsus on Armastus22 March 2015 03:49
Margus Meigo commented on Rait Kukk's post.
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Kainust on Sinul vaja sest nato kaitseb neid kes ennast soovivad kaitsta, kuid see kelle pukki täielikult endale laseme on selge märk Natole mis meelsus ja kui suur tarkus meil siin on,
niigi nad arvatvasti rohkem meid aidanud kui me oma peaga mõtlema peaks (no see pool Natost vähemalt kes teadlikult ei tööta sõja vaid rahu suunas, neid ka.)
Selline jura, et "kui jamaks läheb siis pole vahet kes pukis" on tüüpiline punaste "ronime kaevikusse, võtame pudel viina kaasa ja pohui mis toimub nagunii midagi meie tillukesed teha ei saa.." suhtumine, vabandust aga pean nii väljendama, kuna Saseda soovisid.
Sa kõlad, nagu Sul pole õrna aimugi Eesti tegelikust suurusest ja mõjuvõimust maailmade kaardil ja ega neid aime ei anta ka, ei aegunud parteipiletiga ega Värske pileti põhjal. Vaid ikka selle põhjal mida usud. Mina küll aremat, võimsamat ja suuremat riiki ei tunne kui Eesti, olles reaalne.
Maises ja poliitilises mõttes, Eesti on üks ideaalsemaid vahelülisi eri maailmade vahel. Ka hingelises mõttes loomulikult. Kuid see juba läheks esoteeteerikaks eks ja mis me sellest ikka jahume mida keegi kuidas tunnetab.
olgugi, et proovitakse uskuma panna, et me väliselt vallutatud siis sisemiselt suurem osa Eestlasi heatahtlikult ignoreerib neid kohalike prääksujaid ja sadiste küpsetades kaera kooki ja tehes rukkilillest pärgasi. Ja see on just üks, Eesti suuruse osasi. Me üks vanimaid säilinud rahvaid maailmas, sellises suuruses ja puhtuses.
Ma ei tea mis maailmas Sina elad, aga mina küll pole plaaninud hakata alla andma,
sest kui nii Suur oled siis isegi proovides, me ei mahuks kuhugi alla
Küll See Suur Tõll veel tõuseb, kui Eesti Rahvas uuesti Looduse, Looja poole oma südamed pöörab.22 March 2015 03:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kuidas on lubatud selliseid uudiseid genereerida lampi:
"A new report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared by the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) for the Ministry of Defense (MoD) states that President Barack Obama’s nuclear war communication commander has been arrested and relieved of her command after failing to transmit launch codes authorizing an atomic weapons first-strike attack upon the Federation in coordination with a similar “surprise” attack planned by the United Kingdom.
According to the SVR, US Navy Captain Heather E. Cole [photo 2nd left] was the commander of the US Navy's Strategic Communications Wing 1 located at Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma whose E-6B Mercury aircraft provide the communications links allowing President Obama and US Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter to directly contact the submarines, bombers and land-based missiles that comprise the United States strategic nuclear force.
On Monday, 16 March, this report states, Captain Cole received from the Pentagon a launch order authorizing a “limited” nuclear strike against the Federation, but which failed due to a critical Permissive Action Link (PAL) failure thus causing her to abort this planned attack. "
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1849.htm
ja
"A new Ministry of Defense (MoD) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that the Ministry of Civil Defence, Emergencies and Disaster Relief (MChS) has issued an order for all companies employers to prepare for nuclear war, while at the same time the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA) has slammed the US for flooding Europe with tanks and armored vehicles.
According to this report, the MChS issued their order on 16 March to companies and employers to immediately provide their workers with radiation suits and gas masks as part of the “war orders” issued by President Putin. and which we had previously reported on.
With these “war orders” being necessitated after the uncovering of a United Kingdom plot to launch a nuclear first-strike against the Federation this week, a situation made even graver after the arrest Tuesday (17 March) of US Navy Captain Heather E. Cole for her failing to, likewise, launch American nuclear weapons against Russia on Monday (16 March) this report continues, the Kremlin remains “alarmed” that no one seems to be in charge of the United States anymore."
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1850.htm
leht loomulikult oma avaliku omaniku privaatseks teinud kuid avalikusele ainult näha:
Updated Date: 2013-10-17T08:00:12.00Z
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ek siis pea 10ne aastane ettemaks registreerimise eest, mida päris teismelised ka enamasti ei tee. Kuid noh, see pole miski eriline märk millest midagi lugeda saaks.
Need ju näevad kes agentuuris...ehk nad tahavad jagada siis, kes seda karnevali ajab..http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1849.htm
22 March 2015 03:29
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Seda asja siin jah, mitu korda jagatud.
Eks nad õppinud järjest rohkem ja targemalt kirjutada, tulevad ümber nurga ja neil igasugune esoteerika ka juba valmis pandud vastukaaluks kui inimesed peaksid julgema usu poole minna.
Mulle see kõik meeldib, teeb inimesed targemaks ja keskerakonna töö ongi sundida teisi paremini ja õigemini tööle, nii eeskuu näidates osades asjades kui kasutades neid kõike poliitika nippe mille suhtes PEAME olema karastatud kui globaalne poliitika Päriselt avatuks muutub ja me peaksime tahtma ärkvel ja asjalike Jumala lastena tunduda mu maade suurvaimude silmis,
kes kui vaja tulevad panevad sulle sussiga vastu pead ka, või süüdistavad Sind oma tütre ärakasutamises, et näha kas ja kuidas Sa sellele oskad reageerida
ning kui käitud selliselt, et Sa nagu Maailma loomise ja tõdede osas oled suts tuhm või mingis programmis mida Su vastased ise ammu välja mõelnud püüdepaelaks, siis muigega just sellel tasandil sinule saadetakse uusi sõpru kes sind oma kaitse alla võtavad.. hammustades läbi, mis piires mõtled seega teades, millised trikid Sinu jaoks toimivad...
nad ju usuvad, et igaühel on oma hind..22 March 2015 03:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kuid keda siis ja kuidas, kui palju ?
Alati kui öelda, et midagi on paha siis anda ka kõrvale soovitus mida usume22 March 2015 02:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Hrmutamine kindlasti, või hoiatus.. plaanide rikkumine..
aga kelle poolt?22 March 2015 02:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Aga samas, BBC on punane...
nii et siin midagi on veidrat.. (no ikka PUHTALT punane, eriti kui vaatasin Ukraina uudiste kajastusi jaretoorikat kohe alguses, olles seal)22 March 2015 02:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ning kes nende genereerimisest huvitatud,
arvestage ka kuningakoja poolt, usu pooli ja interneti hulle ja uus kommar aktiviste ja erinevaid ameerika pooli22 March 2015 02:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
(see wana "uudis") kuid ikkagi,
Et mis kasu kellele sellised uudised annavad, mis arvate?22 March 2015 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on Rait Kukk's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Sa nagu keelad EKRE osas olla puhta südameline ja siis loobid rämüsu reformikate suunas nagu see oleks arenenud tegevus ?
Mille põhjal Sa oma reformi vastast luulu ajad (kui sa tead, et nad punaste head ei toimeta) ja mis arvad kes saab olla ainuke muu jõud kes kohe ise esile tõuseb, järgmise suurena, kes valitsuse üle võtab kui oravad kaovad?
Nii, et kuna on teada, et nad omavahel ei klapi.. tundub, et nad päriselt ka ei klapi.. sest keskilt on kõige enam reformi vastast kampaaniat tulnud, ... siis maha tirides Reformi PROBLEEMIST arusaamise asemel... toetad sellega Keskerakonda, ja mis on täitsa OK, kui seda ausalt teha.
Otse,
Keskvõimu seljataga on suured muud võimud kes kasutavad kogu eesti teisi erakonde nii palju kui võimalik, nende ja valitsuse lammutamiseks, et veel rohkem oma mehi sisse saada (lisaks nendele, kes neil juba Reformis endasja teistes paika pandud on, eriti palju uutes erakondades )22 March 2015 02:11
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Näe selle sildi peal, all olevad punased laigud on mu veri: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152355517207594&set=a.10151282800487594.523321.502752593&type=1&theater kui selle sildi tegemise aja selle peal kaklema üks muga hakkas.
(ma ise sellel pildil sildi taga.. sest kuigi oma sõbrad.. siis silti mis nii irooniline... ei soovinud teistele reklaamimiseks hoida)
Londonis jah, kasvatatakse suurt riigi oma vastast "undergroundi" ülesse, kelle liikmed on milleks iganes suht valmis, päris palju liikmeid on väga mõjukate kuritegelike gruppide liikmed.
Riik ise tegi neile seaduse, et nad saavad sisse murda majadesse ja neis elada (vaata eelnevat Phoenixi teemat, selle liikumise juht ka homonduse toetaja, kui viimati teda nägin).
Mind jääti elama sest nagu arvati, et ma päris omadega vist kodus pole.. et elan nendega.. ja samas patriootlike vaadetega (ka paljus muus).. kuid jah.. suht suuri ohtlikusi inim vabadusele nägin mida läbi nende plaanitakse, sest nad 100% siiralt usuvad kõike mis riigist on, olevat kurjast.. kuid nad treenivad ka vaimu jõudu ja tumedaid jõude.. kust suurem osa nende võimu tuleb... kuid noh, see pikem jutt, siiani seedin ise.
Elust ja tegemistest sadu pilte ka, kellel huvi võin siia lingi postitada, kuid enamus on mu Google kaleriidest nähtav22 March 2015 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Elasin ka üle aasta taolistega koos
http://phoenixrainbow23.blogspot.com/2015/03/autonomous-nation-of-anarchist.html
Päris karme antifiste ikka leidub.. Londonis suured kriminaal projektid selles osas..
Mäletan sain korra peaga näkku kui Neile nende väärtusi Kuningannaga võrdlema hakkasinhttp://phoenixrainbow23.blogspot.com/2015/03/autonomous-nation-of-anarchist.html
22 March 2015 00:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTo6yvJ5SCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTo6yvJ5SCM
21 March 2015 20:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Need trailerid ikka sellel lehel on kümnesse
21 March 2015 20:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
Mis arhiivist tava inimesele need filmid siis kätte saadavad ka oleks ?21 March 2015 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on Olga Sepp's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Muidugi nihilist on Jumala puudulik weebileht ja nende kirjutisi kui iganes ilusad tuleb ikka lugeda nagu 14 protestis teismeliste
lihtsalt meeles alati hoida, mida pannil praetakse mida lakume20 March 2015 18:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
See muidu hea, et kokkulepped olemas, kuid jah, kunagi saades ikka suureks aktsepteeri mis asjad on seened ja milleks, muidu umbes sama hea kui Usklikud kes räägivad "piibel on alg klass, see võhikutele kes alles alustavad, ma sellest üle" ja siis väljendatakse selliselt nagu olekski tegu millegi vähe olulisega maailma jaoks.
Seened ja selle laadsetesse taimedesse selliselt suhtumine on samamoodi kuid veel mitu klassi hullem üleolevus teadmatuse pärast, sest tegu on ikkagi Jumala toiduga ja miks ta selle meile siia kättesaadavaks tegi nii turvaliselt,
vanasti targemates ringkondades ei hakatud üldse jutule võtmagi mehi kes pole otse vaimu ja oma sise maailmaga kursis (kes ei olnud nõus seene laadseid võtma), naised on teine teema, ... sest paratamatult saavad loodus taimed, meid vaid piisavalt targaks teha, et Hakata Naist mõistma ning kui sellega hakkama saanud, siis on Jumalal hea meel oma loomingu osas, et pole teine raisku läinud otsides mida elus vaja otsida.
Kõige muu osas tundud aga selge ja tark, ja ära muretse - nägemusi Sa nägema ei hakka kui tead milleks mida ja kuidas võtad, rohkem ikka otse Suhtlus loominguga.20 March 2015 18:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Nomaad sa ei saa teada seeni ja need ei ole laksutamisest, või mida see "saab laksu" Su arust tähendab, kõlab väga seda moodi, et ei tea, kuigi väga tõe lähedane oled sõnades.
Seened ikka selleks, et meeled selgeks ja targaks teha, et süda pehmeks ja ajad selgeks saaks.
Laksutamiseks võib alkoholi juua või miskeid toxilisi aineid süüa.20 March 2015 18:17
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Baumer's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Vaata Kristjan, et Sa siis jututuba ei korralda jälle ja jäta oma isiklikud vestlused ikka privaat sõnumi piiresse.
(sh. solvangud)20 March 2015 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Mõttus's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Tõsi, küll ma õpin
Mitte, et ma siin harjutama peaks aga tehes praktilist tööd otse õpib kõige paremini19 March 2015 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Mõttus's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Eesti vaimujalule saada ja EKREst asja saada
@ Kristjan Baumer19 March 2015 23:22
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Mõttus's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Mõned arvavad, et on vabad ja valivad purjus päi käia19 March 2015 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Hea seegi, vähemalt keegi lähedane, omad joped
peaasi, et terroristid pole19 March 2015 23:05
Margus Meigo commented on Olev Piir's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
See ikka kindel või,
et kui Venema Eesti suhtes on millelegi nõus alla kirjutama, et selle venekeelse tõlke tõlgendus meile ka päriselt kasulik on uute muudetava seadustega tulevasel ajal?
Kui Meri käis papreid tegemas, siis selgelt sõnastati, et arusaamatuste korral lähtutakse paberi Eestikelsest Tõlkest
(ehk tõlgendusest läbi meie meele ja arusaama ).
--
Kuid noh, ega Alexander Dugin Eesti ammu piirialast välja jätnud mida avalikult alistama hakatakse, sellisena funktsioon kasulikum.. kuna korgi tihend Euroopa ja Vene vahel (Narva jms) on Vene MÕJU sfääris.. ehk üks jalg on vabalt seesjuba pidevalt...
Kuid noh, mis see Dugin.. lihtsalt sõjavägede, oligarhide ja luure ametnike isiklik Guru teab või joonistab oma kaarte.. vana mees ka ja ajad muutuad.. ehk19 March 2015 23:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
/(ja nagu kogu käsk on ühes-kahes käsus, siis kogu see Heebria tarkused ka.. korja need kõige olulisemad mõned meeltesse ja ülejäänud lähtuvad juba nendest19 March 2015 22:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Mul üks faili Heebria Greeka mõttelaadi osas kui soovid pilgu peale panna, lõpetamatta veel aga noh, asjaks ikka19 March 2015 22:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
2 Peeter 2:12, Kohturaamat 1:10, (ehk mitte Kohturaamat 1:19)
Tegelikult kõlab hästi, kuid siis Sa Heebria mõttelaadi peaks omaks võtma kui purist olla soovid õigel teel, sest siis see tähendabki näha asju nii nagu nad Jumala poolt loodud on.
Muidu suure hulga asju pead ise avastama mis ammu avastatud, kirja pandud ja selgeks saadud.. kuid siis olles looduse keskel juba saaksid mitu sammu edasi. Kuna Sul selline kutsumus siis JUmala silmis Sa palju väärt.
Saab ju olla ka kommunistist purist oma meeltes ja igast muud pidi
Kas Jumala toidu, võlu seentega oled kokku puutunud või muidu teadlik?
kuid kui Su süda on paika pandud Õige sõna järgi, siis.. siis peaks hea olema, kuid isegi kui arvad, et ei järgi Heebria asju, elad Sa süsteemis mis kujutab ennast ette Greeka-Rooma maailmana, ning kogu algharidus, meele lahutus suures osas ja palju muud on Greeka mõttelaadis pandud ning kui puudub Heebria arusaam siis puudub ka arusaam miksja mida nad näitavad (isegi reklaam tooteid paljusi ei reklaamita mitte toodete pärast, vaid selle reklaami programmeerimise mõju pärast (tekitab vale aru saama vanurite suhtes, õpetab uue vale käitumisnormi jms), ja see saab olla hoopis midagi muud tootega vähe seotud otseselt)
http://www.gotquestions.org/follow-your-heart.htmlhttp://www.gotquestions.org/follow-your-heart.html
19 March 2015 22:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Kas sa Oled Heebria või Greeka mõttemaailma järgi toimiv enamasti, oma soovides ja tunnetes, tegudes ?19 March 2015 21:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Nu mis siin kiidelda, jätka samas vaimus ja ära lange lõksu nagu oleks vahepeal midagi muud teha, sest siis tekib illusioon nagu oleksid piisavalt teinud.
Piisavalt oleme siis teinud, kui Jeesuse jaoks planeet nii valmis on, et ta võib tavalise inimesena siia tulla ja ei pea kellegagi vaidlema, jagelema ja haigused ning sõjad juba ammu on unenägu.
Mootor ei saa üle kuumenda kui teed õigeid asju, ajaga ennast uuesti reaalsusesse viimiseks on loodus jalutused (olles ärkvel kus jalutad), pikutamine (mõtetes ikka maailm mida lood), ja muidugi ülim puhkus kõigest maisest: Seks,
kuigi, see on tegelikult veel kõige pühalikum tegevus, kus ühtegi maist mure enam peas ei tohi olla peale selle kuidas täielikult meeled vabastada, et üheks liidetud kehade kooslust uuendada saaks.
Seega, kindlasti pole mõtet vaadata meelega filme mis on vähem arendavad sest need rikuvad mõistust kui neid just töö korrasei vaata, sama ka arvuti mängudega mis on suures osas spetsiom selleks tehtud.
Kuid kuna mul on õigus nagunii, siis ma oma seisukohta kaitsma ei pea, et igavust ja meelelahutus lihtsalt lahutamise mõtteks pole vaja (vaadates selle sõna tähendust mille selgitusse panin, see sõna on otseselt jumala vastasuse ja tõest eemale juhtimisega seotud,see tegevus siis st.).
Ja isegi kui need on vabandavad, siis kohe mitte mingil juhul pole regulaarne alkohol ja kindlasti mitte suits vabandatav. Sest see on kuritegu keha vastu.
Su meeled uhkavad nagunii pidevalt, sest nii palju on mida teha ja osad tegevused mis on vajalikud meile on meeli puhastavad ja rahustavad nagunii.
Kuid hoobelda võid küll oma arvuti asjadega, ma arvan, et see tuleb kasuks, siis saad rohkem nõu kuidas seda paremasse kasutusse panna19 March 2015 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Aju on mõeldud Jumala teenimiseks, ja kui inimene on arusaamas mida ta siin maakeral teeb siis tal ei saa olla igav kunagi, ega ei vaja igavuse peletuseks "ilma sügava sisuta filme" ja arvutiga mängimist, selle asemel, et arvutiga teha tööd mida maailmal vaja läheb.
Ja kui ei oska ega ei tea mida vaja siis küsi ja Sulle lahkelt antakse arusaame ja tegevusi mida rakendada19 March 2015 21:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Jah ja Sina eksid ja kui Sa sellega ei nõustu siis Sa ise oma subjektiivset uskumust ka ei usu ega saa aru.
Kas saab enam lihtsam olla.
Sul nagu arusaam "igal ühel võib oma õigus olla, ma usun siiralt et igal ühel on õigus oma arvamusele ja usule.... aga Sinul margus ei või" või mis ?19 March 2015 21:14
Margus Meigo commented on Aivo Lill's post.
Group: Kristlased
See on Loomulik
Üle loomulik on siis kui midagi üle selle, mis on loomulik (sõna üleloomuliku kohta)19 March 2015 21:11
Margus Meigo commented on Erkki Mägi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Sellepärast, et keeled (seega ka meeled) aeti sassi inimeste vahe ja nüüd tänu piiblile me saame keeled korda jälle,
enne ei tasu puhata kui kõik ühte moodi aru saavad
Kuid kõik lähevad vaikselt ühe ja sama arusaama poole tundub minu, õnneks.
Isegi kasutades seda Loomingu vastast kooli süsteemiselleks19 March 2015 21:11
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis van Kaldalu's link.
"acording to survey" ja muidugi see iseland ka, pole väga suur rahva hulk seal keda oleks tahetud tõmmata ninast : )
19 March 2015 21:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ja nüüd tehakse avalik küsitlus, sellel ajal kohe peale SELLIST uudist "Kas arvate, et Keskerakonna ja Reformi Erakonna liitumine oleks hea" TV3 s praegu,
vaadake mis tuleb... kui mitmed Eestlased, kes ju enamus on inimesed veel siis sooviks vastumeelselt hääletada praegu ?
See vist ei ole päris sobilik aga noh.. poliitikas vist kõik lubatud.19 March 2015 19:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Ennustajad ka ennustanud, et tal nii läheb see suvi kui ta rahulikult ei võta.. kuid eks see tervis ammu mureks olnud
2009:
"ütles Edgar Savisaare nõunik Liina Oja Õhtulehele. "Tervis on OK! Väike nõrkus oli lihtsalt," kinnitas ta. Pühapäeval, kui Moskva ja kogu Venemaa patriarh Kirill õnnistas Lasnamäe õigeusu kirikut, panid kirikulised tähele, et sealt on kadunud Edgar Savisaar. Ta lahkus kehva enesetunde tõttu.
Mullu novembris tabas Savisaart Pärnus arvamusliidrite lõunal kõnet pidades terviserike, mille põhjustas ilmselt madal vererõhk. Lähedal istunud mehed toimetasid linnapea diivanile, kus ta lamas 5–6 minutit, kuni toibus. 2011. aastal rääkis reformierakondlane Valdo Randpere Kroonikale, et on viimase kahe aasta jooksul olnud Savisaarega koos umbes 50 koosolekul ja Keskerakonna esimees olevat neil kõigil magama jäänud.
"Mis puutub sellesse, et ma mõnikord silmad kinni panen, siis seda täheldas ajakirjandus juba 1987. aastal. Tookord peeti seda erilise intelligentsuse tunnuseks ja tuletati meelde Jaapani peaministrit Kakuei Tanakat, kellele ka meeldis igavatel koosviibimistel silmad kinni panna," teatas Savisaar toona. "
http://eesti.info/uudised/uudis.php?uid=1624537
http://unenagudeseletaja.blogspot.com/2011/01/savisaare-voimalik-narkolepsia-ei-ole.html (veel magamisest)
Ikkagi inimene:
http://alkeemia.delfi.ee/hallokosmos/uusmaailm/selgeltnagija-kristiina-raie-2020-ndate-lopuks-peaksid-tulnukad-vabalt-tanavatel-meie-seas-liikuma?id=70968637
"Meie Savisaar - no temal on küll täiesti inimlik veri ja tema kaitseks võib öelda seda, et tema aju potentsiaal on suur ja ta on tark inimene, aga lihtsalt poliitilised mängud on teinekord need, mis esiplaanil on."http://eesti.info/uudised/uudis.php?uid=1624537
19 March 2015 18:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Poiss peab puhkusele minema ja dieeti muutma, väike usk tuleks ka kasuks, südame muutus parandab palju.19 March 2015 18:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Vene selgelt nägijad teatsid rääkida, et nii juhtub
muidugi sellest eriti selge nägemisega vist ei pea olema, et aimata19 March 2015 18:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
2009:
"ütles Edgar Savisaare nõunik Liina Oja Õhtulehele. "Tervis on OK! Väike nõrkus oli lihtsalt," kinnitas ta. Pühapäeval, kui Moskva ja kogu Venemaa patriarh Kirill õnnistas Lasnamäe õigeusu kirikut, panid kirikulised tähele, et sealt on kadunud Edgar Savisaar. Ta lahkus kehva enesetunde tõttu.
Mullu novembris tabas Savisaart Pärnus arvamusliidrite lõunal kõnet pidades terviserike, mille põhjustas ilmselt madal vererõhk. Lähedal istunud mehed toimetasid linnapea diivanile, kus ta lamas 5–6 minutit, kuni toibus. 2011. aastal rääkis reformierakondlane Valdo Randpere Kroonikale, et on viimase kahe aasta jooksul olnud Savisaarega koos umbes 50 koosolekul ja Keskerakonna esimees olevat neil kõigil magama jäänud.
"Mis puutub sellesse, et ma mõnikord silmad kinni panen, siis seda täheldas ajakirjandus juba 1987. aastal. Tookord peeti seda erilise intelligentsuse tunnuseks ja tuletati meelde Jaapani peaministrit Kakuei Tanakat, kellele ka meeldis igavatel koosviibimistel silmad kinni panna," teatas Savisaar toona. "
http://eesti.info/uudised/uudis.php?uid=1624537
http://unenagudeseletaja.blogspot.com/2011/01/savisaare-voimalik-narkolepsia-ei-ole.html (veel magamisest)
Ikkagi inimene:
http://alkeemia.delfi.ee/hallokosmos/uusmaailm/selgeltnagija-kristiina-raie-2020-ndate-lopuks-peaksid-tulnukad-vabalt-tanavatel-meie-seas-liikuma?id=70968637
"Meie Savisaar - no temal on küll täiesti inimlik veri ja tema kaitseks võib öelda seda, et tema aju potentsiaal on suur ja ta on tark inimene, aga lihtsalt poliitilised mängud on teinekord need, mis esiplaanil on." (erinevalt paljudest teistest, kes oma päid saab otsast võtta jms)
Kuid jah..
Palvetagem ?
Ma ise seda südamlikult teha ei saahttp://eesti.info/uudised/uudis.php?uid=1624537
19 March 2015 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on Olavi Uisk's post.
Group: Rahvameditsiin ja teadmised
Ei19 March 2015 17:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Kuid siis ei ole nende algseid dokumente suures külluses kuskil saata ei üheltki ümberkaudselt rahvalt üle ilma?
Ja suvaliste valitsejate surma kuupäevad, kella ajad isegi vahest ja terved elulood kirja pandud juba enne Jeesust.. mis jama see nüüd on..19 March 2015 15:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Vot kui need Juudid veel avalikuks teevad milliseid Lõhnarohte ja Suitsutus rohte (erinevalt viirukitest) nad kõik kasutasid ja millest teadlik oldi..
Kuid kuna Roomlased ja Juudid just suurimad sõbrad pole kuni tänaseni olnud, siis oleks põhjust mõlemal ju niipea kui võimalik, esimesena välja tulla nii palju tegeliku infoga kui võimali ... mida siin reeeta on, ega siis keegi Jumala ja vaimude eest siin saladusi hoia..
inimene oma peas vahest teeskleb, unustades ära mis maailm on..19 March 2015 15:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Kui Sa läbi vaimu elad, jumalale, maailmale, loodusele, naistele head soovides, siis sa lihtsalt ei viida aega.
Kui ma kanepit näiteks külastan või Youtuubest rokk muusikat kuulan, siis see kunagi pole "aja viiteks", vaid seleks, et tunnen , et on vaja kas minul või siis kellegil.
EI ole siin vaja midagi viita aega, kus Sa tead kui palju aega Sul on et siin ühte hõlpu iga nädal aega leiad üle aru, et seda ära viita.
Lugemine väga vaimne tegevus19 March 2015 15:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Normaad kui see on minu arvamus siis see on absoluutne lõpp tõde ja kui sa sellega nõus ei ole siis võta arvesse, et sinu puhul on see lihtsalt sinu ja veel väheste subjektiivne arvamus (sest usud sellesse, siis sellele ka allud)
Kuid selge see on, igavust ei saa kunagi tunda inimene kes on arusaanud mis maailmas ta elab, see ju võimatu.. kui korraks unustad ära kes oled või miks siis võib tekkida igavus ja see kurjast, sest siis eirad oma aju ja palju muud, võttes suhu ja meeltese mida iganes.
Kõik on jumala teenimine, et sa teaks, isegi potil käimine, et sa teaks.
Filmi vaatad selleks ja selliseid mis SULLE ja maailmale kasulik on mitte niisama, et aega kulutada.
Sa ju mõtled kaasa filmile ja arenad, paned oma elusse kasutusse või mõtled kuidas selliseid aidata kes sellise filmi teinud on, mitte tuimalt ei istutu mõttetult teleka ees.
Sa võid endale oma arvates vabaduse jätta, kuid sellel pole midagi suurt pistmist, või nõuet selle ees, kas Sulle peab siis jätma vabaduse või mitte. Sest asjad on nagu on mitte nagu iga üks suvatseb mõelda endale, subjektiivselt19 March 2015 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Krumholts's post.
Group: Kristlased
Esiteks lähkrid juba olid kõlbmatud kui sinna vedelikku sisse pannes nod katki lähevad,
ja kuna järgmine salm ütleb, et vana on parem kui uus,värkse vein.. siis noh.. vast oligi tegu eriti paha värske veiniga kui to ära lõhub ja maitsvam ka pole.. eks need vana usulised ja uue aja (viimase paarituhande aasta) kristlased. Või noh, niisama norin, heas tahtes, jutu jätkuks.19 March 2015 15:35
Margus Meigo commented on Marju Traks's photo.
Mis sa edgar räägid, udune pilt ju :p
Ja mis sellel naisel muud Silmades olla saab kui naised ise ju Tarkuse kehastus maal, inimese jaoks : )
(Proverbs 8:27)
Ja mis sellel naisel muud Silmades olla saab kui naised ise ju Tarkuse kehastus maal, inimese jaoks : )
(Proverbs 8:27)
19 March 2015 15:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
See on väga halb mõte Nomaad Nomaad
Just nii Su meeltele ligi päästakse,
Meelt ei ole vaja kunagi lahutada vaid Jumala teenimise meelelaadis pead olema siis on Su meel puhanud ja keha kõike seda "lahutusest saadavat rahuldust" täis,
Meelelahutus (igavad filmid, arvutimängud jms) on suht kurjast.
Erit kurjast on, kui Sul on igav, sest see on rüvetamine oma keha ja vaimu ja kogu selle tarkuse osas mis Sulle antud on,
kui Sul on kunagi igav siis see on SUUR ohumärk... ja see nagu ütlemine Jumalale "Sa pole loonud piisavalt"19 March 2015 12:16
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Kristlased
enne kui ma veel vastan, et küsin kas te arvate Jumalas olema nii Nais kui ka Mees poolus koos ühes või eraldi?
(elu)Tarkus ka muide Naissoost ju piiblis (Õpetus Sõnad 8:27..ingli-s e keel-es ..)
Mormoonidel ka kosmose ema arusaamad ja asjad..19 March 2015 03:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Sul ka Õigus19 March 2015 02:28
Margus Meigo commented on Siim Nestor's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
(oma era-kondades)
1.agente on kolme põhi sorti: aktiivsed kes värvikalt näitavad ennast hästi tugeva meelestatusega
2. siis neid kelle plaan tagataustal olla ja nii tavaline kui vaja, juhuks kui vaja tõusta esile aegajalt ja üldist silma peal hoida (enamasti targeimad)
3. ja siis need kes on profiilitud kui nõrgad ja suunatavad, painutavad või kelle hingel on patte mile kaudu nad saab võtta tangide vahele kui vaja
1.a ((kes on tihtipeale toetatud kõrval säutsujana, kes ka nagu ees liidri asju toetab ja tegeleb psühholoogia suunamisega andes nagu mõista, et me nii arvamegi)) ... seega 5-7 inimest on enamasti elementaarne hulk, ainuüksi ühelt jõult (+siis magav agendid keda saab kui vaja äratada või piitsutada tulevikus, kogudes ta kohta faile veel juurde, ... Eestis nii mõnigi selline vang kellele selgitatakse privaat ruumis, autosse kutsudes nagu filmis või kus iganes kohtudes... kenasti ära "olukord" ja mis juhtub kui ta vale poole kasuks on. Enamus inimesi muidugi ei sa ega ei pea teadma nendest asjadest, sest on oluline, et enamus neist teineteist ei teaks, ka ge ja be struktuur toimib ideaalselt väikeste sutsudena ja elu toimib nagu ikka, sest sügavalt teineteisega ei räägita, et näha hinge ja vaimu sügavusi.. et näha kas on midagi hingel.. kas keegi peidab midagi.. või on muidu veider ja ei hoia ühte nagu oma vendi ja õdesi peaks hoidma (agentidel enamasti ka ideed on suhteliselt kitsad ja teatud asjade piires, nagu muid elu huve ja teadmisi polekski ega aega muuks.. kuid need kõige lihtsamad elementaarsemad, peenematest asjadest ei tasu rääkidagi))
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ja ega siis ainult ühe huvi ja poole agente pole.. vahest laua taga nii veider hulk, et suur hulk inimesi polegi otseste huvidega ja niisama proovivad oletades asja vedada ja kaasa laulda18 March 2015 22:00
Margus Meigo commented on Siim Nestor's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Küll Keskerakond Erklele muu kasutuse leiab kui kükke teha ei soovita, plaane mitu juba sahtlis valmis, strateegiad, kaotusi ei ole, on etteaimatavad olukorrad milles tuleb reageerida,
mis te unustasite ära kui suur hulk muude erakonna esindajaid ja nõuandjaid teie ridades on?
Et nagu igas muus erakonnas on aga suurims tõusvas rahvuslikus Erakonnas, et sinna pole mõtet oma mehi panna v?
Mis moodi te oma ridades puhastust teete kui tõde ei tea muud kui seda mida soovitakse, et te teaksite ja oskuslikult sunatakse kommentaariga siia ja sinna (sh suruda relvastuse ja teise erakonna ja riigi vastalisuse peale, kuid peaasi, et taimedest ja loodusest eriti palju ja valjult rääkima ei hakata.. või kuidas naise ja mehe, lapse ja vanemate suhted korda saada sedasi, et sõda ega elektrooniline sõda ei mõjutaks.. sest mis meid siin veel järgmised 200 aastat hoiab vaadates muu maailma suundasi ?)18 March 2015 21:48
Margus Meigo commented on Siim Nestor's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
" Kummalisel kombel esitab Eesti uudiseid kõige adekvaatsemalt kollase suunitlusega „Õhtuleht“. Kõikide portaalide arvamusrubriigid on viimase aasta jooksul teadlikult marginaliseeritud"
Ahja, nüüd siis Õhtuleht on kõige asjalikum. Kus suurte tähtedega esikaanele sellist musta maagiat ja psühholoogilist manipulatsiooni pannakse et..
"Reformierakonna noorkomsomolide leninlikul juhtimisel, vikerkaarevärviliste lippude all. Rahvuslasi tuleb peksta, venelased tuleb muuta kasulikeks idiootideks ja igasugune teisitimõtlemine tuleb teha nii raskeks kui võimalik, soovitavalt isegi karistatavaks (vihakõne jne)."
Ah, et nagu ikka head kohe teise kaela panna neid silte, siis hakatakse ehk uskuma ka... ja siis nagu ei sobiks panna sama silti teiste kaela enam eks..
Muide tänu just KESKERAKONNALE sai võrdligusõuse seadus läbi,
kas unustasite, et Keskerakond avalikult rääkis selle vastu ja süüdistas ja naeruvääristas SUUUUUUUURELT teis selles osas Teles, ja siis kui hääletamiseks läks, hääletas täpselt nii palju poolt kui oli vaja, et läbi läheks.
Nu ja tõepoolest, mu meelest tehku kasvõi koos olemise seadus, et kõik taolised ühte komuuni panna ja omavahel suhtesse, see ei ohusta Eestit, senikaua kui oma moraali ja arusaama, mis on Naine ja Abileu suudame hoida oma laste südametes18 March 2015 17:41
Margus Meigo commented on Siim Nestor's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
"partei tagatubade poolt võimule upitatud poliitbroilerite IQ on masendavalt madal"
Jah, see on moodus kuidas oma tarkust näidata, võrdle teiste IQsi, tule taevas appi.
Jaa... muidugi.. sümboolne...
"suudavad olla ka head diplomaadid ega pea meeletult ja mõõdutundetult pugema ei USA-le, Euroopa Liidule ega ammugi mitte Venemaale"
Mis mõttes, AMMUGI mitte venemaale, mis sellel siis niipalju jubedamat on kui ise tark ja ilma kompleksideta tugev vaimus oled?
Et vaja kohe nii distantseerida ennast, neist kõigist ja kellele siis poeme? Ise ju hakkama ei taha saada sest ketrame sama haridus ja usu vaba süsteemi oma koolides mis neis kõigis kolmes18 March 2015 17:37
Margus Meigo commented on Siim Nestor's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
just, just
" et väidetavalt just nende .."
KES väitis? Ja muidu... kas me ikka siis ära otsustanud, kas vanadest KGB töötajatest ja tehnikast kihav grupp täidab Eesti, Vene või USA huvisi, või kõike seda?
Kas on vahet, kes meist kõige õigem?18 March 2015 17:27
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Mõne punkti vahel maakeral on üle 20ne tunni, et jalutad natuke .. ja siis ei olegi nagu pühapäeva kui õigel ajal üle piiri astuda või siis just on pikem ... ma mõelnud, et kuna need aja tsoonid välja mõeldud ja päriselt neid olemas pole, kui on siis on kogu maakeral üks peakolema,
et siis päriselt ei saa see olla just see kõige olulisem punkt (kuna ebatäpne ja vaieldav), oluline on vast, et lihtsalt võtad aja maha ja tead, et Sul on selleks õigus ja inimene ei saa Sind sundida.
See on meid vallutava sund orja korra ja meie enda sõltuvuse kaitseks tehtud, et meid selle eest kaitsta, et saaksid öelda, et sul on õigus mitte tööd teha iga päev.
Kuid kui teed tööd siis see peaks ikka jumala teenimiseks olema, mitte raha, vaid loomingu.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_zone#/media/File:World_Time_Zones_Map.pnghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_zone#/media/File:World_Time_Zones_Map.png
18 March 2015 16:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
see on ju point, et mis me teeme. IGA inimene kes selle küüsi läheb, mida väidad olema, on ka Sinu hingel kui sa oma tarkust ei pane mängu, et päästa siis neid hingi, kellele tema selgitused tunduvad targemad, selgemad ja arukamad.
Silte külge panna oskab igaüks, kuid millised tõendid, miks ja kuidas,
Siin suurt tarkust vaja selgituseks, või vähemalt tavalist innustustki asju paremaks teha maailmas, hoolida inimestest kes on hea armastava südamega ja satuvad tulle, node pärast keda ei huvita.
Tema sihtgrupp on ikka väga armastavad ja vaimu targemad inimesed, kellel väärt hinged, tava new age ja suva purgeri putka nored sellist teksti ei loe ega kuula mida ta kirjutab, ja pahad inimesed ka mitte, ikka alandlikumad ja korralikumad18 March 2015 14:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Levi okey, võtame siis selle aluseks nagu Sina ütlesid.
sest sa tead. jah?
Mis nüüd järgmine samm on, kuidas seda seletad SELLISE karismaatilise inimese puhul, et miks on mis (eriti arvestades tema Jeesuse juttu,. kus ta juba ette rääkinud, et suurem osa kristlasi on Jeesuse vastased kiiksuga, kes on asjades kinni millest nadaru ei saa)18 March 2015 14:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Siis ta on veel sellise lehe ka leidnud, http://www.askrealjesus.com/
Taimi Ploompuu ja kui Sulle tundub sedasi, siis ära sina ise aruta kuid teistel võivad olla muud põhjused ja mõtted peas mis pole jumala teotuslikud seoses kinni, tema eestikeelsete lehtede või seoses sellega mida me sellega teeme ja miks.
Niisama ignoreerides ja ennast peites, mitte vastutust võttes mida ise me põhjustanud oleme, ise seda mitte parandades, käsile mitte võttes me ei jõua kaugele (pane pea Kõik vastupidisesse võrmi siis saad teada kuidas õigesti on)
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veel eriti kuna tagatipuks:
Kim has lived in United States (Montana, Utah, New York, Washington D.C. and Virginia), Sweden and Estoniahttp://www.askrealjesus.com/
18 March 2015 13:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Mõistate ikka mille üle me arutame ja miks ma selle postitasin v?
Urmas Rahuvarm ja olgu või maali, aga mida me sellest "Kim Michaels" teame ? Ja mida selle teadmisega siis peale hakkame?18 March 2015 13:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
et selle koha nimi oli selline ja pere nimesi saadi sellel ajal ka koha nime järgi, mitte pere konna järgi ainult olen kuulnud
18 March 2015 03:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
To to dear friend, who You are:
You don't see a single thing I see, your conscience is blind*
And your spirit's drowning deep
In the swamp of your lies
I'm a monster that's breaking through your mind
And when I'm done
You can't deny my delight
I am so sick and tried of all your words
I could bleed someone dry and your minions, they shall
Learn as I leave you to fly beneath a blazing sky
Burning your eyes, hear the roaring high above
As you die
I shall cross your way, as you fade away
Angel of light, your demon and demise
I foresee that day, my righteous hate will
Decimate the lies , my light will shine
Close your eyes, I'll forgive you now is your
Chance to repent remember how it feels cos'
I was once like you just a fool who thought the
Knew it all stumbling in the dark
you don't see a single thing I see, but still you go on like
An old man that's in need of someone to hold on
I'm a monster that's breaking through your mind, just don't
Resist and I will show you the light
I am not in the mood for foolish games
I won't wait 'til you say, I will strike you down and leave
You to meet with your fate beneath a blazing sky
Burning your eyes, hear the roaring high above
As you die
I shall cross your way as you fade away
Angel of light I'm laughing at your side
I foresee that day my righteous hate will
Decimate the lies, my fight will shine
Nearest representation of Ron Night i know : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WRX7AIXv7g
You don't see a single thing I see, your conscience is blind*
And your spirit's drowning deep
In the swamp of your lies
I'm a monster that's breaking through your mind
And when I'm done
You can't deny my delight
I am so sick and tried of all your words
I could bleed someone dry and your minions, they shall
Learn as I leave you to fly beneath a blazing sky
Burning your eyes, hear the roaring high above
As you die
I shall cross your way, as you fade away
Angel of light, your demon and demise
I foresee that day, my righteous hate will
Decimate the lies , my light will shine
Close your eyes, I'll forgive you now is your
Chance to repent remember how it feels cos'
I was once like you just a fool who thought the
Knew it all stumbling in the dark
you don't see a single thing I see, but still you go on like
An old man that's in need of someone to hold on
I'm a monster that's breaking through your mind, just don't
Resist and I will show you the light
I am not in the mood for foolish games
I won't wait 'til you say, I will strike you down and leave
You to meet with your fate beneath a blazing sky
Burning your eyes, hear the roaring high above
As you die
I shall cross your way as you fade away
Angel of light I'm laughing at your side
I foresee that day my righteous hate will
Decimate the lies, my fight will shine
Nearest representation of Ron Night i know : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WRX7AIXv7g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WRX7AIXv7g
18 March 2015 03:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
tänapäeval tunned kaasa neile kes peavad? : )
18 March 2015 03:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But i can not say before i know my self, as one of my dear lithanian brother told me, so... will let you know when i know if he know : )
18 March 2015 03:34
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Äitah18 March 2015 03:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Fairyland - Doryan The Enlightened
Majesty I've seen the fate of your lands
visions of hell invaded my dreams
believe me I am your only chance
I will serve the peace of your land
To protect and save my beloved world
King Morick there's no time to waist
By mounds and plains I'll destroy the enemies
Eleandra will shine once again
Young Doryan we have heard your call
Prophecies will become reality
By mounds and plains you'll destroy the enemies
Osyrhia's light will shine once again
Gods of war, lands of freedom
On my way to battle
Lend me your force
I won't fight for gold or glory
I don't need no fame or pride
I will take my sword to veil upon my land
The victory is in my hands
Pain and torture, all I caught in my sight
the visions of terror have burned my heart
I won't fight for gold or glory
I don't need no fame or pride
I will take my sword to veil upon my land
The victory is in my hands
we won't fight for gold or glory
we don't need no fame or pride
we will take our sword to veil upon our land
The victory is our my hands
Read more: Fairyland - Doryan The Enlightened Lyrics | MetroLyrics
Majesty I've seen the fate of your lands
visions of hell invaded my dreams
believe me I am your only chance
I will serve the peace of your land
To protect and save my beloved world
King Morick there's no time to waist
By mounds and plains I'll destroy the enemies
Eleandra will shine once again
Young Doryan we have heard your call
Prophecies will become reality
By mounds and plains you'll destroy the enemies
Osyrhia's light will shine once again
Gods of war, lands of freedom
On my way to battle
Lend me your force
I won't fight for gold or glory
I don't need no fame or pride
I will take my sword to veil upon my land
The victory is in my hands
Pain and torture, all I caught in my sight
the visions of terror have burned my heart
I won't fight for gold or glory
I don't need no fame or pride
I will take my sword to veil upon my land
The victory is in my hands
we won't fight for gold or glory
we don't need no fame or pride
we will take our sword to veil upon our land
The victory is our my hands
Read more: Fairyland - Doryan The Enlightened Lyrics | MetroLyrics
18 March 2015 03:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Iron Fire - Alone In The Dark
Hunted by demonic eyes, all I see is burning skies
Vision seems so real, trying to break free
This place is spellbound
The shadow land below the ground
Voices cut like steel
Lost without a key
Try to find an open door
That leads the way to the robot wars
Alone in the dark for ages
Nocturnal slave from the cradle to the grave
Alone in the dark for ages
Eternal slave where the lost soul creeps
Alone in the dark
Every second seems like a year
I�m longing to get out of here
To get back with my brothers
Keep fighting till dawn
Prisoner in this twilight
Salvation will be the sunlight
Dark warrior rising
Twisted black and reborn
Try to find an open door
That leads the way to the robot wars
Alone in the dark for ages
Nocturnal slave from the cradle to the grave
Alone in the dark for ages
Eternal slave where the lost soul creeps
Alone in the dark
A journey from the dark and from the beyond
When the time is right for freedom
The saviour will appear again
Again
Try to find an open door
That leads the way to the robot wars
Alone in the dark for ages
Nocturnal slave from the cradle to the grave
Alone in the dark for ages
Eternal slave where the lost soul creeps
Alone in the dark
All alone in the dark, a tortured soul
All alone in the dark, a tortured soul
Hunted by demonic eyes, all I see is burning skies
Vision seems so real, trying to break free
This place is spellbound
The shadow land below the ground
Voices cut like steel
Lost without a key
Try to find an open door
That leads the way to the robot wars
Alone in the dark for ages
Nocturnal slave from the cradle to the grave
Alone in the dark for ages
Eternal slave where the lost soul creeps
Alone in the dark
Every second seems like a year
I�m longing to get out of here
To get back with my brothers
Keep fighting till dawn
Prisoner in this twilight
Salvation will be the sunlight
Dark warrior rising
Twisted black and reborn
Try to find an open door
That leads the way to the robot wars
Alone in the dark for ages
Nocturnal slave from the cradle to the grave
Alone in the dark for ages
Eternal slave where the lost soul creeps
Alone in the dark
A journey from the dark and from the beyond
When the time is right for freedom
The saviour will appear again
Again
Try to find an open door
That leads the way to the robot wars
Alone in the dark for ages
Nocturnal slave from the cradle to the grave
Alone in the dark for ages
Eternal slave where the lost soul creeps
Alone in the dark
All alone in the dark, a tortured soul
All alone in the dark, a tortured soul
18 March 2015 03:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Dreamtale - Lady Dragon
The mighty dragon in her lair
There is no daylight and no air
There's pleasure, a treasure
There lies an endless nightmare
Go inside if you dare
Many heroes tried and failed
The lonely dragon in her lair
She-s got gold but she doesn't care
She-s waiting, for someone
To hold and not to run
She wants love, she wants passion
Many years she tried and failed
[Chorus 1:]
Now the years are passing by
Lady Dragon doesn't fly
She lies in her keep
Tryin' to sleep
Forever she dreams a river full of tears and sorrow
Longing for neverending love
The mighty dragon in her lair
She met a king with golden hair
He wanted the treasure
She wanted love and pleasure
He tried to cut her wing
Just one breath did kill the king
[Chorus 2:]
Still the years are passing by
Lady Dragon doesn't fly
Almost lost her wing
By the evil king
Forever she cries a river full of tears and sorrow
Longing for neverending love
The mighty dragon in her lair
There is no daylight and no air
There's pleasure, a treasure
There lies an endless nightmare
Go inside if you dare
Many heroes tried and failed
The lonely dragon in her lair
She-s got gold but she doesn't care
She-s waiting, for someone
To hold and not to run
She wants love, she wants passion
Many years she tried and failed
[Chorus 1:]
Now the years are passing by
Lady Dragon doesn't fly
She lies in her keep
Tryin' to sleep
Forever she dreams a river full of tears and sorrow
Longing for neverending love
The mighty dragon in her lair
She met a king with golden hair
He wanted the treasure
She wanted love and pleasure
He tried to cut her wing
Just one breath did kill the king
[Chorus 2:]
Still the years are passing by
Lady Dragon doesn't fly
Almost lost her wing
By the evil king
Forever she cries a river full of tears and sorrow
Longing for neverending love
18 March 2015 02:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Dignity - Icarus
Used his skills to build them wings
Out of feathers and of strings
To escape the labyrinth in which they re trapped
Icarus, the son of Daedalus the one
With these wings they would reach to the sun
High above the clouds they'll fly
That's the only way 'cause
The guards are watching land and sea
(The)
King of Crete in agony
He was rebellious, he was bold
So he ignored what he was told
Son, you must promise me to never fly too high
'Cause the sun is a flaming ball of fire
The wax in the wings might just melt
And you'll fall dead upon the ground
Fly into the sun
He is the one and only
Icarus
(Icarus)
High
To touch the sun
He is Daedalus son
Icarus
(Icarus)
To kill the monster Minotaur
The hero begged the inventor
Daedalus and as if that was not enough
Did escape with the lovely daughter
Of king Minos, his fury was so great
In the end he lost his mind
Read more at http://www.songlyrics.com/dignity/icarus-lyrics/#lX7iRrPIOH29UhVQ.99
Used his skills to build them wings
Out of feathers and of strings
To escape the labyrinth in which they re trapped
Icarus, the son of Daedalus the one
With these wings they would reach to the sun
High above the clouds they'll fly
That's the only way 'cause
The guards are watching land and sea
(The)
King of Crete in agony
He was rebellious, he was bold
So he ignored what he was told
Son, you must promise me to never fly too high
'Cause the sun is a flaming ball of fire
The wax in the wings might just melt
And you'll fall dead upon the ground
Fly into the sun
He is the one and only
Icarus
(Icarus)
High
To touch the sun
He is Daedalus son
Icarus
(Icarus)
To kill the monster Minotaur
The hero begged the inventor
Daedalus and as if that was not enough
Did escape with the lovely daughter
Of king Minos, his fury was so great
In the end he lost his mind
Read more at http://www.songlyrics.com/dignity/icarus-lyrics/#lX7iRrPIOH29UhVQ.99
http://www.songlyrics.com/dignity/icarus-lyrics/#lX7iRrPIOH29UhVQ.99
18 March 2015 02:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Freedom Call - Carry On
The chanting has begun
A hymn of fame and glory - forever
And ride on, ride on
In union we are strong
A symphony for freedom and glory
We are strangers in a strange land
We are born as renegades
And show the world what they should see
When we are standing at the crossroads
Revolution is our way
We're breaking down the walls of hate
[Chorus]
We are guardians of the future
Defenders of our faith
And we are bound for victory
When our hearts call for rebellion
We're raising our hands up to the sky
And tell the world to turn away from darkness
The chanting has begun
A hymn of fame and glory - forever
And ride on, ride on
In union we are strong
A symphony for freedom and glory
We are strangers in a strange land
We are born as renegades
And show the world what they should see
When we are standing at the crossroads
Revolution is our way
We're breaking down the walls of hate
[Chorus]
We are guardians of the future
Defenders of our faith
And we are bound for victory
When our hearts call for rebellion
We're raising our hands up to the sky
And tell the world to turn away from darkness
18 March 2015 02:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Take Me Higher The death of the Taurus
has brought us here
Minos has taken revenge
We fear to die in exile but I know
there is still a chance for us
to go above the sea, my son,
don't touch the waves,
don't near the sun
Watch out!
Hear my words:
follow the clouds!
But in his days of levity
the boy is not aware at all
Father, save me your words
come, let us fly
like birds and Take me higher
on wings we are leaving
on wings we arise
Shore so dire
I'm longing for freedom
The price for it will soon be payed
So the tragic is foretold
the wax will melt
beneath the burning sun
My invention, is it safe?
Nature can't be replicated!
The claws of wind,
at once they reap
the young man falls into the sea
My fault! It's too late but now I see
the blaze in the sky
would have posed no threat
if we had chosen the night instead
Take me higher
on wings we are leaving
on wings we arise
Shore so dire
I'm longing for freedom
The price for it will soon be payed
has brought us here
Minos has taken revenge
We fear to die in exile but I know
there is still a chance for us
to go above the sea, my son,
don't touch the waves,
don't near the sun
Watch out!
Hear my words:
follow the clouds!
But in his days of levity
the boy is not aware at all
Father, save me your words
come, let us fly
like birds and Take me higher
on wings we are leaving
on wings we arise
Shore so dire
I'm longing for freedom
The price for it will soon be payed
So the tragic is foretold
the wax will melt
beneath the burning sun
My invention, is it safe?
Nature can't be replicated!
The claws of wind,
at once they reap
the young man falls into the sea
My fault! It's too late but now I see
the blaze in the sky
would have posed no threat
if we had chosen the night instead
Take me higher
on wings we are leaving
on wings we arise
Shore so dire
I'm longing for freedom
The price for it will soon be payed
18 March 2015 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Gamma Ray - Induction+Dethrone Tyranny
Someone is out there he's watching what I do
From far in the distance, his eyes everywhere
I look around me, there's no one that I see
But still I feel someone's controlling my mind
Save your breath and run
You can't escape the one
Time has come, the world lies dying
Our faith has gone, our souls are crying
Resurrecting paradise, cry for freedom
Killing pain, a million lies,
Dethrone tyranny
Forces of evil, they never surrender
Sooner or later the dark aera comes
Crying man on the run
He's searching for freedom but there will be none
Time has come, the world lies dying
Our faith has gone, our souls are crying
Resurrecting paradise, cry for freedom
Killing pain, a million lies,
Dethrone tyranny
And as the world is dying slowly in our hands
We'll ask for reasons until the bitter end
Who brings us all the sadness
Who brings us all the fear
Who spreads disease and misery
And steals our destiny
A poisoned heart of anger
Sowing the seeds of pain
All see the darkened skyline
And feel the deadly reign
Time has come, the world lies dying
Our faith has gone, our souls are crying
Resurrecting paradise, cry for freedom
Killing pain, a million lies,
To hell with tyranny
yeah!
Someone is out there he's watching what I do
From far in the distance, his eyes everywhere
I look around me, there's no one that I see
But still I feel someone's controlling my mind
Save your breath and run
You can't escape the one
Time has come, the world lies dying
Our faith has gone, our souls are crying
Resurrecting paradise, cry for freedom
Killing pain, a million lies,
Dethrone tyranny
Forces of evil, they never surrender
Sooner or later the dark aera comes
Crying man on the run
He's searching for freedom but there will be none
Time has come, the world lies dying
Our faith has gone, our souls are crying
Resurrecting paradise, cry for freedom
Killing pain, a million lies,
Dethrone tyranny
And as the world is dying slowly in our hands
We'll ask for reasons until the bitter end
Who brings us all the sadness
Who brings us all the fear
Who spreads disease and misery
And steals our destiny
A poisoned heart of anger
Sowing the seeds of pain
All see the darkened skyline
And feel the deadly reign
Time has come, the world lies dying
Our faith has gone, our souls are crying
Resurrecting paradise, cry for freedom
Killing pain, a million lies,
To hell with tyranny
yeah!
18 March 2015 02:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Rob Rock – Rock The Earth Lyrics
Born in the night when darkness has covered the sky
Eye for an eye, the code on the street to survive
Wielding the axe, the metal is forged in the fire
Burning inside, the music is always the driver
Time to take our place
Conquer one by one
We shall overcome
We will Rock the Earth, raise your voice, we must be heard
We will Rule the World, carry on, the metal flame
Thirst for the kill, displaying the passion and fury
Taking by storm, slay them with power and courage
Time to take our place
Conquer one by one
We shall overcome
We will Rock the Earth, Raise your voice, we must be heard
We will Rule the World, Carry on, the metal flame
Time to take our place
Conquer one by one
We shall overcome
We will Rock the Earth, Raise your voice, we must be heard
We will Rule the World, Carry on, the metal flame
Born in the night when darkness has covered the sky
Eye for an eye, the code on the street to survive
Wielding the axe, the metal is forged in the fire
Burning inside, the music is always the driver
Time to take our place
Conquer one by one
We shall overcome
We will Rock the Earth, raise your voice, we must be heard
We will Rule the World, carry on, the metal flame
Thirst for the kill, displaying the passion and fury
Taking by storm, slay them with power and courage
Time to take our place
Conquer one by one
We shall overcome
We will Rock the Earth, Raise your voice, we must be heard
We will Rule the World, Carry on, the metal flame
Time to take our place
Conquer one by one
We shall overcome
We will Rock the Earth, Raise your voice, we must be heard
We will Rule the World, Carry on, the metal flame
18 March 2015 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Last Tribe Goa Hippy Tribe
"Man Of Peace" for sure :P
Don't dig your own grave
There is a life to save
I'm loosing my control
I am a righteous man
I only kill by hand
Save your own soul
I'm trying to keep myself from
Showing my dark deep inside
I believe in the healing rain
Pouring down on me
I believe in the quiet mind
Making me try one more time
Trying to be a man of peace
Behold the power
Of my beast inside
I can't hold it back much longer
A boiling anger
Beneath the surface
That keeps growing stronger
I'm trying to keep myself from
Showing my dark deep inside
I believe in the healing rain
Pouring down on me
I believe in the quiet mind
Making me try one more time
Trying to be a man of peace
"Man Of Peace" for sure :P
Don't dig your own grave
There is a life to save
I'm loosing my control
I am a righteous man
I only kill by hand
Save your own soul
I'm trying to keep myself from
Showing my dark deep inside
I believe in the healing rain
Pouring down on me
I believe in the quiet mind
Making me try one more time
Trying to be a man of peace
Behold the power
Of my beast inside
I can't hold it back much longer
A boiling anger
Beneath the surface
That keeps growing stronger
I'm trying to keep myself from
Showing my dark deep inside
I believe in the healing rain
Pouring down on me
I believe in the quiet mind
Making me try one more time
Trying to be a man of peace
18 March 2015 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Flag In The Ground"
[Prologue:]
"In the days when lands were few, and man sometimes had no chance but sell his soul to his landlord to make a living...
In far and away country, they gave acres of land away for free, to all able to claim it...
Ships sailed across the great seas, fortunes were made and dreams shattered...
Sometimes couples were torn apart, for all they could afford...was one ticket."
Leaving my life behind
My young love and the unborn
Only have a lock of her hair...
and burning love inside
After forty work-filled days and sleepless nights,
the sails are lit by the lights of Boston
...and here we go...
Off the ship! Towards the adventure, the one to define our lives.
Daily grind and a tiny room.
"I got here safe, Love.
I have an address, until spring, then I shall race for the land, hope to hear from you soon..."
Her letter reads...
"Please let me know everything's alright
Thinking about you, 'though you're out of sight every night, when I'm turning in, my tears find me.
Please hurry, dear, come back and rescue me..."
"Now that I have made the dollars we need for the dream.
The best horse I've ever seen, a carriage and everything I need...
I will make my way to the great unknown
Every moment I wish you were here with me now...
"Please let me know everything's alright...."
"No, I'm not a stranger, among the people in here...
Yet I have never felt so alone...
At high noon the sound will boom, and I will start racing for the land we can call home."
"I stuck my... flag in the ground, screaming 'n shouting,
I've never felt so proud, Love!
We are free from eternal serfdom!
I'm gonna bring you home, my light!"
"Nine, eight, seven, six, counting the days. SOLO!"
"Five, four, three, two, together forever! SOLO!"
I made my way into the great unknown
Land by the river, and a new built home.
I am the land and the land is me
Freedom is everything and we are free
I made my way into the great unknown
Land by the river, and a new built home.
Every night, when I'm looking at the full moon rising
I hold you and know that we are free...
[Prologue:]
"In the days when lands were few, and man sometimes had no chance but sell his soul to his landlord to make a living...
In far and away country, they gave acres of land away for free, to all able to claim it...
Ships sailed across the great seas, fortunes were made and dreams shattered...
Sometimes couples were torn apart, for all they could afford...was one ticket."
Leaving my life behind
My young love and the unborn
Only have a lock of her hair...
and burning love inside
After forty work-filled days and sleepless nights,
the sails are lit by the lights of Boston
...and here we go...
Off the ship! Towards the adventure, the one to define our lives.
Daily grind and a tiny room.
"I got here safe, Love.
I have an address, until spring, then I shall race for the land, hope to hear from you soon..."
Her letter reads...
"Please let me know everything's alright
Thinking about you, 'though you're out of sight every night, when I'm turning in, my tears find me.
Please hurry, dear, come back and rescue me..."
"Now that I have made the dollars we need for the dream.
The best horse I've ever seen, a carriage and everything I need...
I will make my way to the great unknown
Every moment I wish you were here with me now...
"Please let me know everything's alright...."
"No, I'm not a stranger, among the people in here...
Yet I have never felt so alone...
At high noon the sound will boom, and I will start racing for the land we can call home."
"I stuck my... flag in the ground, screaming 'n shouting,
I've never felt so proud, Love!
We are free from eternal serfdom!
I'm gonna bring you home, my light!"
"Nine, eight, seven, six, counting the days. SOLO!"
"Five, four, three, two, together forever! SOLO!"
I made my way into the great unknown
Land by the river, and a new built home.
I am the land and the land is me
Freedom is everything and we are free
I made my way into the great unknown
Land by the river, and a new built home.
Every night, when I'm looking at the full moon rising
I hold you and know that we are free...
18 March 2015 02:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Guardians Of The Dragon Grail
Dragon come over sea, we will fly eternally
We are guardians of the dragon grail
Deep in the forest of wisdom
High on the mountains we found resort
Honoured our ancient religion
The secrets of the world
For centuries the old ones had told of
The riders of dragons, the sacred ones
High in the clouds they were calling
There's magic in their words
Deep in our halls you'll find them
Our written chronicles
Knowing that only the chosen
Can take wind to the stars
Dragon come over sea, we will fly eternally
Hear the anthem that we sing
We are children on the wing
Take me high to the sky, our spirit will prevail
We are guardians of the dragon grail
Breaking through wind and through fire
Dragon, let's fly to the crimson shores
Freedom is all we desire, a bond without a care
Over the mountains and rivers
Over the land there's a mystic force
I know the red moon will guide us
Through the northern air
Deep in our halls you'll find them
Our written chronicles
Knowing the only the chosen
Can take wind to the stars
Dragon come over sea, we will fly eternally
Hear the anthem that we sing
We are children on the wing
Take me high to the sky, our spirit will prevail
We are guardians of the dragon grail
Times have changed, years gone by
I see sadness sin your eyes
Mighty dragon fly the earth
Leave all sorrow from this verse
Let us rise into night, where our dreaming cannot fail
We are guardians of the dragon grail
Dragon come over sea, we will fly eternally
Hear the anthem that we sing
We are children on the wing
Take me high to the sky, our spirit will prevail
We are guardians of the dragon grail
Read more: Majesty - Guardians Of The Dragon Grail Lyrics | MetroLyrics
Dragon come over sea, we will fly eternally
We are guardians of the dragon grail
Deep in the forest of wisdom
High on the mountains we found resort
Honoured our ancient religion
The secrets of the world
For centuries the old ones had told of
The riders of dragons, the sacred ones
High in the clouds they were calling
There's magic in their words
Deep in our halls you'll find them
Our written chronicles
Knowing that only the chosen
Can take wind to the stars
Dragon come over sea, we will fly eternally
Hear the anthem that we sing
We are children on the wing
Take me high to the sky, our spirit will prevail
We are guardians of the dragon grail
Breaking through wind and through fire
Dragon, let's fly to the crimson shores
Freedom is all we desire, a bond without a care
Over the mountains and rivers
Over the land there's a mystic force
I know the red moon will guide us
Through the northern air
Deep in our halls you'll find them
Our written chronicles
Knowing the only the chosen
Can take wind to the stars
Dragon come over sea, we will fly eternally
Hear the anthem that we sing
We are children on the wing
Take me high to the sky, our spirit will prevail
We are guardians of the dragon grail
Times have changed, years gone by
I see sadness sin your eyes
Mighty dragon fly the earth
Leave all sorrow from this verse
Let us rise into night, where our dreaming cannot fail
We are guardians of the dragon grail
Dragon come over sea, we will fly eternally
Hear the anthem that we sing
We are children on the wing
Take me high to the sky, our spirit will prevail
We are guardians of the dragon grail
Read more: Majesty - Guardians Of The Dragon Grail Lyrics | MetroLyrics
18 March 2015 02:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
HammerFall - The Dragon Lies Bleeding
We ride
Ride through the valley in thunder and rain
the battle is raging, redeem this domain
The Castle of Eden lies silent above
darkness surrounded us, away we must go
I look through the eyes of the world
I see there's a Stranger among us.
Awaiting a sign from above
to conquer the power and the glory
Enter the battle, our will to enchain
bringing us forward, defeating the pain
into the meeting with swords made of steel
we're standing together the secret reveals
I look through the eyes of the world
I know who's the Stranger among us
Awaiting a sign from above
to conquer the power and the glory
Come across to the Promised Land
close your eyes, I will take your hand
Through the river of steel we'll go
When the dragon lies bleeding (x2)
Above the glory we'll carry on
now the time has come to return back home
The setting sun illuminates the dead
the battlefield is shining red.
Silent lies Eden on top of the moor
we're fighting with honor protecting our Lord
The last one survivor lies bleeding, I kneel
into his heart I settle the steel
I look through the eyes of the world
there is no stranger among us.
We march to the end of the world
in search for the power and the glory
Come across to the Promised Land
close your eyes, I will take your hand
Through the river of steel we'll go
When the dragon lies bleeding (x4)
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We ride
Ride through the valley in thunder and rain
the battle is raging, redeem this domain
The Castle of Eden lies silent above
darkness surrounded us, away we must go
I look through the eyes of the world
I see there's a Stranger among us.
Awaiting a sign from above
to conquer the power and the glory
Enter the battle, our will to enchain
bringing us forward, defeating the pain
into the meeting with swords made of steel
we're standing together the secret reveals
I look through the eyes of the world
I know who's the Stranger among us
Awaiting a sign from above
to conquer the power and the glory
Come across to the Promised Land
close your eyes, I will take your hand
Through the river of steel we'll go
When the dragon lies bleeding (x2)
Above the glory we'll carry on
now the time has come to return back home
The setting sun illuminates the dead
the battlefield is shining red.
Silent lies Eden on top of the moor
we're fighting with honor protecting our Lord
The last one survivor lies bleeding, I kneel
into his heart I settle the steel
I look through the eyes of the world
there is no stranger among us.
We march to the end of the world
in search for the power and the glory
Come across to the Promised Land
close your eyes, I will take your hand
Through the river of steel we'll go
When the dragon lies bleeding (x4)
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18 March 2015 02:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Thunderstone – Let The Demons Free (just careful with it, ok :p)
Have become endlessly numb, I don't know myself anymore
Things I have done always on the run, I can see myself in deep fall
Within or without but never allowed to be first in line in this life
Pushed to the limit the edge I have seen it, I'm loosing my will
All these years and all these days of my life
I've been blind and never saw through the lies
Now it's time, time to unchain my heart
Release myself and to be me
Let the demons free
There's one life to live and so much to give, too much wasted moments
Hear my cry out, hear it so loud, I am stronger faster and coming through
Now this has to stop, I'll fight 'till I drop, for the dreams I feel I'm alive again
No more concession, it's time for a confession I'll let my demons free
All these years and all these days of my life
I've been blind and never saw through the lies
Now it's time, time to unchain my heart
Release myself and to be me
Let the demons free
All these years and all these days of my life
I've been blind and never saw through the lies
Now it's time, time to unchain my heart
Release myself and to be me
Let the demons free Songwriters: LAURENNE, NINO/TORNACK, KARI ERNST/RANTANEN, MIRKA KIRIL KRISTIAN/RANTANEN, PASI ANTERO/HJELM, TITUS
Have become endlessly numb, I don't know myself anymore
Things I have done always on the run, I can see myself in deep fall
Within or without but never allowed to be first in line in this life
Pushed to the limit the edge I have seen it, I'm loosing my will
All these years and all these days of my life
I've been blind and never saw through the lies
Now it's time, time to unchain my heart
Release myself and to be me
Let the demons free
There's one life to live and so much to give, too much wasted moments
Hear my cry out, hear it so loud, I am stronger faster and coming through
Now this has to stop, I'll fight 'till I drop, for the dreams I feel I'm alive again
No more concession, it's time for a confession I'll let my demons free
All these years and all these days of my life
I've been blind and never saw through the lies
Now it's time, time to unchain my heart
Release myself and to be me
Let the demons free
All these years and all these days of my life
I've been blind and never saw through the lies
Now it's time, time to unchain my heart
Release myself and to be me
Let the demons free Songwriters: LAURENNE, NINO/TORNACK, KARI ERNST/RANTANEN, MIRKA KIRIL KRISTIAN/RANTANEN, PASI ANTERO/HJELM, TITUS
18 March 2015 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Scream Out Loud We are the future
The youth crying with tears in their eyes
We're screaming for freedom
No more promises they're all lies
Help us find our way
The battles of life
Are becoming straighter every day
The walls of our nations
Will fall in a minute today
Help us find our way
Now it's time to say...
That we're here to scream out loud
We don't need to ask for mercy
Feel the anger, feel the power, feel the pain
We will fight until the end
We will earn the right for living
In the future
We'll be breathing free again
So try to fit yourself into a paradise
We're trying to pull out
The venom that tears off our spine
We don't wanna put
Ourselves into a stream
That's no crime
Never hesitate
Now it's not too late
'Cause we're here to scream out loud
We don't need to ask for mercy
Feel the anger, feel the power, feel the pain
We will fight until the end
We will earn the right for living
In the future
We'll be breathing free again
So try to fit yourself in your hell
We will fight until the end
We will earn the right for living
In the future
We'll be breathing free again
The youth crying with tears in their eyes
We're screaming for freedom
No more promises they're all lies
Help us find our way
The battles of life
Are becoming straighter every day
The walls of our nations
Will fall in a minute today
Help us find our way
Now it's time to say...
That we're here to scream out loud
We don't need to ask for mercy
Feel the anger, feel the power, feel the pain
We will fight until the end
We will earn the right for living
In the future
We'll be breathing free again
So try to fit yourself into a paradise
We're trying to pull out
The venom that tears off our spine
We don't wanna put
Ourselves into a stream
That's no crime
Never hesitate
Now it's not too late
'Cause we're here to scream out loud
We don't need to ask for mercy
Feel the anger, feel the power, feel the pain
We will fight until the end
We will earn the right for living
In the future
We'll be breathing free again
So try to fit yourself in your hell
We will fight until the end
We will earn the right for living
In the future
We'll be breathing free again
18 March 2015 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nightscape - Higher Than Life lyrics
Download Higher Than Life 320kbps mp3
Hey you fool, i'm talking to you
Come listen what i have to say
Your life I see, please listen to me
Cause I know the way to be free
Come hear my story
A world of its own
You will feel like stars in the sun
Hours to come
when you choose how to live
Always feel....always see!
Higher than life we will be
(Always a blue sky should see)
Never feel bad ´bout some dark rainy clouds
Always remember blue skies
(It cannot rain all the time)
Higher than life we will be like the sun
Time to see how your life would be
If you doesn't listen to me
Your mind feel clear not knowing fear
Cause our gate to heaven is near
Come feel the glory
A world of its own
You will feel like stars in the sun
Secrets of life
Shouldn´t care, no one knows
Always feel....always see!
Higher than life we will be
(Always a blue sky should see)
Never feel bad ´bout some dark rainy clouds
Always remember blue skies
(It cannot rain all the time)
Higher than life we will be like the sun
Higher than life we will be
(Always a blue sky should see)
Never feel bad ´bout some dark rainy clouds
Always remember blue skies
(It cannot rain all the time)
Higher than life we will be like the sun
Download Higher Than Life 320kbps mp3
Hey you fool, i'm talking to you
Come listen what i have to say
Your life I see, please listen to me
Cause I know the way to be free
Come hear my story
A world of its own
You will feel like stars in the sun
Hours to come
when you choose how to live
Always feel....always see!
Higher than life we will be
(Always a blue sky should see)
Never feel bad ´bout some dark rainy clouds
Always remember blue skies
(It cannot rain all the time)
Higher than life we will be like the sun
Time to see how your life would be
If you doesn't listen to me
Your mind feel clear not knowing fear
Cause our gate to heaven is near
Come feel the glory
A world of its own
You will feel like stars in the sun
Secrets of life
Shouldn´t care, no one knows
Always feel....always see!
Higher than life we will be
(Always a blue sky should see)
Never feel bad ´bout some dark rainy clouds
Always remember blue skies
(It cannot rain all the time)
Higher than life we will be like the sun
Higher than life we will be
(Always a blue sky should see)
Never feel bad ´bout some dark rainy clouds
Always remember blue skies
(It cannot rain all the time)
Higher than life we will be like the sun
18 March 2015 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Novelist (6:26)
Legendary fancy of the earth.
Purpose of the author we should know.
The novel's they wrote, has read by the child.
The story comosed for next generation.
They're being the tellers of mankind.
Not make believe, they can not lie.
Just visions of grace. So they bring us a fantasy. (Fantasy of bright.)
They're maybe the writers of divine.
Blissful of peace, although they're dead.
Treasure of our place. So they leave us a legacy. (Of the World.)
The harmony merry has retread.
Many story been made by their hands
Legendary fancy of the earth.
Purpose of the author we should know.
The novel's they wrote, has read by the child.
The story comosed for next generation.
They're being the tellers of mankind.
Not make believe, they can not lie.
Just visions of grace. So they bring us a fantasy. (Fantasy of bright.)
They're maybe the writers of divine.
Blissful of peace, although they're dead.
Treasure of our place. So they leave us a legacy. (Of the World.)
The harmony merry has retread.
Many story been made by their hands
18 March 2015 02:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The Ice And Snow Faster and faster
We're riding the wind
With one destination alone
Something is wrong here
A chill in the air
The reaper is calling his own
You've got to stay awake
'Cause he's in your dreams
You will end up in the land of the dead
Just stay awake
Don't let him near
Don't look back, don't let go, keep your head
Through the ice and snow in a land unknown
My heart is calling out for you
Through the ice and snow a little light shall glow
It's the love i feel for you
Further and further
Into the night
A flickering light in the black (black)
Riding on rainbows
And yesterday's glory
Still home is calling us back
You've got to stay awake
'Cause he's in your dreams
You will end up in the land of the dead
Just stay awake
Don't let him near
Don't look back, don't let go, keep your head
Through the ice and snow in a land unknown
My heart is calling out for you
Through the ice and snow a little light shall glow
It's the love i feel for you
We're riding the wind
With one destination alone
Something is wrong here
A chill in the air
The reaper is calling his own
You've got to stay awake
'Cause he's in your dreams
You will end up in the land of the dead
Just stay awake
Don't let him near
Don't look back, don't let go, keep your head
Through the ice and snow in a land unknown
My heart is calling out for you
Through the ice and snow a little light shall glow
It's the love i feel for you
Further and further
Into the night
A flickering light in the black (black)
Riding on rainbows
And yesterday's glory
Still home is calling us back
You've got to stay awake
'Cause he's in your dreams
You will end up in the land of the dead
Just stay awake
Don't let him near
Don't look back, don't let go, keep your head
Through the ice and snow in a land unknown
My heart is calling out for you
Through the ice and snow a little light shall glow
It's the love i feel for you
18 March 2015 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
My feet are still burning
Though 1 walk on ice and snow
My world is still turning
Never ending pain within my soul
Ooh - There is no return
Expectations mourning
Hunting each and every move
Ooh - Colors fade to gray
Where's the child that once saw the beauty of the day?
Blinded by "nine-to-five"
Take your place in this merry-go-round
I am the king of my morrow
Should be so strong with no sorrow...
I'm feeding the fire
That's turning brighter all the time
And with no desire
Unholy flames won't take me high
Ooh - There is no return
Expectations mourning
Hunting each and every move
Ooh - Colors fade to gray
Where is the child that once saw the beauty of the day?
Who stole my innocence?
This feels tike heaven down in hell
I am the king of my morrow
Should be so strong with no sorrow...
Blinded by "nine-to-five"
Take your place in this merry-go-round
...Blinded!
Ooh - There is no return
Expectations mourning
Hunting each and every move
Ooh - Colors fade to gray
Where is the child that once saw the beauty of the day?
Who stole my innocence?
This feels like heaven down in hell
I am the king of my morrow
Should be so strong with no sorrow...
Though 1 walk on ice and snow
My world is still turning
Never ending pain within my soul
Ooh - There is no return
Expectations mourning
Hunting each and every move
Ooh - Colors fade to gray
Where's the child that once saw the beauty of the day?
Blinded by "nine-to-five"
Take your place in this merry-go-round
I am the king of my morrow
Should be so strong with no sorrow...
I'm feeding the fire
That's turning brighter all the time
And with no desire
Unholy flames won't take me high
Ooh - There is no return
Expectations mourning
Hunting each and every move
Ooh - Colors fade to gray
Where is the child that once saw the beauty of the day?
Who stole my innocence?
This feels tike heaven down in hell
I am the king of my morrow
Should be so strong with no sorrow...
Blinded by "nine-to-five"
Take your place in this merry-go-round
...Blinded!
Ooh - There is no return
Expectations mourning
Hunting each and every move
Ooh - Colors fade to gray
Where is the child that once saw the beauty of the day?
Who stole my innocence?
This feels like heaven down in hell
I am the king of my morrow
Should be so strong with no sorrow...
18 March 2015 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The Invisible Touch
Stress inside, tearing my mind, always within me
Suddenly something's carrying the burdens
Far from my soul
Innocent child, healing the world
With weight of her shoulders
Staring at me, despite her pain
Losing me so gently
Just like a miracle you gave me the keys to carry on, for eternally
You have you sacrifice your soul
On this long road made of stone
You got the power, the invisible touch
The power of miracle, never, never let it go!
Hidden tears in her solitude, no soulmate to trust in
Sacrifice, there's is no way to cheat the destiny's path
Innocent child, healing the world
With weight of her shoulders
Staring at me, despite her pain
Losing me so gently
Just like a miracle you gave me the keys to carry on, for eternally
You have you sacrifice your soul
On this long road made of stone
You got the power, the invisible touch
The power of miracle, never, never let it go!
Innocent child, healing the world
With weight of her shoulders
Staring at me, despite her pain
Losing me so gently
Just like a miracle you gave me the keys to carry on, for eternally
You have you sacrifice your soul
On this long road made of stone
You got the power, the invisible touch
The power of miracle, never, never let it go!
Stress inside, tearing my mind, always within me
Suddenly something's carrying the burdens
Far from my soul
Innocent child, healing the world
With weight of her shoulders
Staring at me, despite her pain
Losing me so gently
Just like a miracle you gave me the keys to carry on, for eternally
You have you sacrifice your soul
On this long road made of stone
You got the power, the invisible touch
The power of miracle, never, never let it go!
Hidden tears in her solitude, no soulmate to trust in
Sacrifice, there's is no way to cheat the destiny's path
Innocent child, healing the world
With weight of her shoulders
Staring at me, despite her pain
Losing me so gently
Just like a miracle you gave me the keys to carry on, for eternally
You have you sacrifice your soul
On this long road made of stone
You got the power, the invisible touch
The power of miracle, never, never let it go!
Innocent child, healing the world
With weight of her shoulders
Staring at me, despite her pain
Losing me so gently
Just like a miracle you gave me the keys to carry on, for eternally
You have you sacrifice your soul
On this long road made of stone
You got the power, the invisible touch
The power of miracle, never, never let it go!
18 March 2015 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Return Of The Werewolf [Music by Nilsson & Holst, Lyrics by Holst]
The wind was still the moon was full that night
When she heard a sound that sent a shiver down her spine
Something came up from behind she could feel it breath
Now she new it had returned the prophecy come true
Running screaming little red was scared
Coming closer faster was those burning yellow eyes
She trapped and felt onto the ground the beast was on her tail
Just outside her grandmas house her final scream was heard
[Chorus:]
Look at me you will see what the moon has done to me
I'm a child of the brightest of nights
Come to me you'll be free of the trouble life can be
Into hell I will send your lost soul I will drag you into darkness
So the story goes of little red
Who went to see her grandma on the moonlit night
She dreamt of places far away from here she strayed from the trail
Walked into wolfen lair now death was on its way
When night had turned to morning she was found
In the clearing by her grandmas house she had died
Her heart has been torn out of her chest blood was everywhere
A little girl's been killed again oh god when would it end
The moon I see oh the moon I fell
How many nights we spent together
You are my life my most trusted friend
I am only what you have made me
The stars all shine in awe of you
The oceans heed thy call
And I am just a servant to thy will
The kingdom of the night is yours
So guide me on my way
Show me life to end and I obey
Father take this heart I bring father are you proud?
I your son the chosen one have heard your call again
The wind was still the moon was full that night
When she heard a sound that sent a shiver down her spine
Something came up from behind she could feel it breath
Now she new it had returned the prophecy come true
Running screaming little red was scared
Coming closer faster was those burning yellow eyes
She trapped and felt onto the ground the beast was on her tail
Just outside her grandmas house her final scream was heard
[Chorus:]
Look at me you will see what the moon has done to me
I'm a child of the brightest of nights
Come to me you'll be free of the trouble life can be
Into hell I will send your lost soul I will drag you into darkness
So the story goes of little red
Who went to see her grandma on the moonlit night
She dreamt of places far away from here she strayed from the trail
Walked into wolfen lair now death was on its way
When night had turned to morning she was found
In the clearing by her grandmas house she had died
Her heart has been torn out of her chest blood was everywhere
A little girl's been killed again oh god when would it end
The moon I see oh the moon I fell
How many nights we spent together
You are my life my most trusted friend
I am only what you have made me
The stars all shine in awe of you
The oceans heed thy call
And I am just a servant to thy will
The kingdom of the night is yours
So guide me on my way
Show me life to end and I obey
Father take this heart I bring father are you proud?
I your son the chosen one have heard your call again
18 March 2015 02:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The Power & Fury So we are the unbelievers
That time faded our smiles
Bloody memories are crawling on my way
Just follow me you unbelievers
We have a hard life
Late into the night the nightmares are
invading our sides
I will set the world on fire
To scream my suffering
I am wasted by the loneliness and grief
[Pre-Chorus:]
In the past I've made my choice
Now I'm lost eternally, once and for all
Something dark and strange is reigning in the air
Something bad is calling me so far away
Beyond belief, I tasted life high and low
I am out of place here or everywhere
Don't waste away
[Chorus:]
Cling to your dreams, as long as you have time
Cause you can't start all over again
Day after day we are getting closer to the end
I know you can find, a powerful way out
Touch the sky and feel, feel the power and fury
[Solo: Oliver / Charley / Charley]
I'm still bleeding, mending my way
All alone with my soul
Bring back old memories
Life is a game, play with it or die
All depend on our choices
Don't miss the victory.
[Solo: Charley]
That time faded our smiles
Bloody memories are crawling on my way
Just follow me you unbelievers
We have a hard life
Late into the night the nightmares are
invading our sides
I will set the world on fire
To scream my suffering
I am wasted by the loneliness and grief
[Pre-Chorus:]
In the past I've made my choice
Now I'm lost eternally, once and for all
Something dark and strange is reigning in the air
Something bad is calling me so far away
Beyond belief, I tasted life high and low
I am out of place here or everywhere
Don't waste away
[Chorus:]
Cling to your dreams, as long as you have time
Cause you can't start all over again
Day after day we are getting closer to the end
I know you can find, a powerful way out
Touch the sky and feel, feel the power and fury
[Solo: Oliver / Charley / Charley]
I'm still bleeding, mending my way
All alone with my soul
Bring back old memories
Life is a game, play with it or die
All depend on our choices
Don't miss the victory.
[Solo: Charley]
18 March 2015 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Burning Bridges
[Music & Lyrics: Gimpl]
I know what I believe in
I hope you know it too
Just listen to the call
And you know now what to do
I see my brothers standing
I see them everywhere
The time is right for us
Raise your hands into the air
Living in a world of danger
With a heart that s full of fire
Just another way to carry on
Gaze into the dragon's eye
It's blinded by desire
Take your chance now children of the sun
We are back, back on the street again
Hold on to your dreams my friend
The burning of bridges it has just begun
Just open your eyes and see
A world far from misery
Our army is rising whatever will come
Drifting through empty spaces
Through clouds and stars
Above the wintersun
Where the mighty dragon flies
The wind blows in our faces
Our hearts are filled with pride
A new age will appear
And the truth is on our side
Living in a world of danger
With a heart that s full of fire
Just another way to carry on
Gaze into the dragon s eye
It's blinded by desire
Take your chance now children of the sun
We are back, back on the street again
Hold on to your dreams my friend
The burning of bridges it has just begun
Just open your eyes and see
A world far from misery
Our army is rising whatever will come
Together, forever, I want it now or never
Tonight the time is right for fighting
The fire, desire, this flight will take you higher
Don't be afraid It's tantalizing
[Music & Lyrics: Gimpl]
I know what I believe in
I hope you know it too
Just listen to the call
And you know now what to do
I see my brothers standing
I see them everywhere
The time is right for us
Raise your hands into the air
Living in a world of danger
With a heart that s full of fire
Just another way to carry on
Gaze into the dragon's eye
It's blinded by desire
Take your chance now children of the sun
We are back, back on the street again
Hold on to your dreams my friend
The burning of bridges it has just begun
Just open your eyes and see
A world far from misery
Our army is rising whatever will come
Drifting through empty spaces
Through clouds and stars
Above the wintersun
Where the mighty dragon flies
The wind blows in our faces
Our hearts are filled with pride
A new age will appear
And the truth is on our side
Living in a world of danger
With a heart that s full of fire
Just another way to carry on
Gaze into the dragon s eye
It's blinded by desire
Take your chance now children of the sun
We are back, back on the street again
Hold on to your dreams my friend
The burning of bridges it has just begun
Just open your eyes and see
A world far from misery
Our army is rising whatever will come
Together, forever, I want it now or never
Tonight the time is right for fighting
The fire, desire, this flight will take you higher
Don't be afraid It's tantalizing
18 March 2015 02:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Nagu füüsilises mõttes neitsiks,
saan pointist aru küll, kuid nagu sõnastusma arvan, peaks ikke olema, süütu viljastus
nu sumerite arvates, seda te naised siin ajutiselt teetegi, jagate ennast meestega aga tegelikult te saaksite ilma ka18 March 2015 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Wau Mai see link on päris hea!18 March 2015 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Tegelikult on sedasi, et kui naine sünnitab siis ta ei ole peale seda süütu.
Mis saab olla on Suutu rasestumine kuid sünnitades, te ise naised ju, et kas saab jääda süütuse kile alles ?18 March 2015 01:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tol ajal sellistes kohtades, oli kombeks asukoha järgi sündides ka viimase nime saamine
18 March 2015 00:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Näete, on tõsiseid weebilehti küll.
Kuid neid asju me siis torkima ei peaks või nende osas pole infot meil Eesti tarkadel?
Wau tiiu... poleks arvanutki ,t Sa seda mussi kuulad, üllatad mind :D (on ikka sõnad! karm)18 March 2015 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Imelihtne17 March 2015 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's post.
Group: Kristlased
ja need kes siis surma patu teinud, lahutanud, abielu rikkunud või mida iganes, kas nad siis sama hästi võivad tegema hakata mida iganes, kirikust lahkuda, prostituudiks hakata või narkotsi müüma ja inimesi maha koksama, sest surma patt on juba tehtud mis siis vahet on mida veel teed, kahekordne surma patt, kolme kordne igavikus olemine ?
Praktiline arusaam siin ikka peaks ka olema...
et see mis oleksu ja arusaamas oled, suremise hetkel, see on see kust maalt edasi jätkad ja kus suunas edasi lähed ja kui oled alla suuna teel eks siis ka sinna solgi rentslisse sind vast sünnitatakse,
Kuid ka see arusaam, on liialt karm tegelikuse ees.
See välja vabandus kurjuse ees, et nad saaks teha mida iganes ja siis vabandada "Nad kannavad eelmise elu karmat" või "keha polegi oluline, see valu ei loe" jms.
On küll, väga väga oluline, et me kõik täie hingega kogu inimkonna ja looduse heaoluks tegelekime ja usuksime.
Kui sa ei oska presidenti aidata, siis aita kasvõi sellel päevakoeral üle tee minna ja liblikaks saada, ehk sööb ta ära varblane ja tal oligi määratud autoga üle sõitmiseks, kuid ehk oli ta siin, et sinu hinge testida, et sulle anda võimalus edasi areneda paremal elu suunal
või ehk lihtsalt, asjad ka juhtuvad ja selle jaoks on meil tunnetus ja aju ja tarkus, et õpiksime ISE kõike parandama, igal samul mida oskame, südames usu, et ikka aitad seda konna ja et ta oluline ja küll su mõtted edasi talle kantakse kui vaja.
Kuid lase ka loodusel hingata ja olla, aita siit ja sealt, inimestest rääkimata, neid aita südames ja mõttes ja tegudes nagunii, ... kui kätt ei saa külge panna siis jaga hea sõna.17 March 2015 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Armastus on see mis on kõige olulisem...
päris armastus
Armastus on see mis sind seobüheks kehaks inimesega mitte riiklik abielu leping
Armastus ON see mille elus hoidmiseks piibel ja kirik on. Kuid see kas igal ühel on lubatud armastada rohkem kui korra elus.. see juba ka.. vaja teada, et mis siis teha
Millistes kirikutes need päris abielusi sõlmitakse tänapäeval.. nu need millel siis reaalne hingeline väärtus on. Kas saab siis sama olla õige usu või mormoni poolt, või kelle iganes poolt, milline on õige ja kui kehtetu on vale abielu?
Ja siis peab uuesti ümber abielluma ?
Nendele ja kõigile siin grupis räägitule olgu järgnevaaasta jooksul kõigil kirikutel suures osas ühte selge arusaam, ja arusaam ka selles osas, mis neil eiole aga teistel on (inimesed peavad saama lugeda, millised lepingu osad sinu kirikus on teist moodi kui teise kiriku omad vastasel juhul tegeled pettusega, meelitamisega)17 March 2015 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Mõtlesin ka, et kõik jutt ilus aga see lugu kus nad arutasid seda asja, et kas siis oli magamine või ei.. see ju pole nam valesti tõlkimise mure.
Muidu lihtsalt ka näide kui veenvaid loogilisi ja kenasti kõlavaid selgitusi pannakse kirja.
Noor kes seda lugenud ja sutsu koolis käinud, tema ümber rääkimiseks peab ikka juba hoopis muu aste mõtlemine ja tarkus olema, et ta sind oma peas kui poliitikut ei vaataks.
Kuid neid näiteid veel, mida tõsimeeli rääkides, inimestel selge seletus juba olemas.. ja mida ise nad omakorda kasutavad selleks, et vaadata kas sa oled piisavalt tark, et midagi rääkida või elad veelalles müütide maailmas kus oma asjades ka aru ei saa.
Taolised kirjutised vaja otsida üles, olla teadlik ja aru saada neist, ning ühiseid arusaame jagada erinevate kirikute vahel, et selgitus oleks ühine miks ikka oli nii mitte naa.
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Ma korra ühe mehega rääkisin kes ütles,et hobuse keelt ka oskab, ta andis mulle lausa kella aja ka millal tehti Jeesus ja kuidas puu lusikaga nad sperma sise panid kui nad magama oli pandud..
Igas lugusi, eriti veel node tulnukate suust tulema hakkavad, kes sellel ajal ise kohal olid..
siin ikka väga valja mitut tarkust kasutada, sest nende soov ei ole sinuga 50 järgmist aastat vaielda, vaid saada kindla kindluseni millest edasi, saab sunni viisiliselt kui psühholoogiliselt haiged inimesed, kõik usklikud korda teha, ja arvestades kui palju nõrkust usklike enda ridades on, see eriti raske ei saa olema kui mingil erilisel põhjusel, just te Jmalale meele järele olema peaksite.. et tundute loodusele ja Nais soole kasulikud ja oma vanematele ... hingeliselt.. siis vast..
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Me nagu unustanud oleksime, milliseid sunniviisilisi projekte siin alles tehtud on selle sajandi sees... ja viimase poole millenniumi sees.. ja siis oli veel palju süva usklike..17 March 2015 23:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Have You seen this comapny
http://www.wehealanimals.com/bob/
http://www.wehealanimals.com/equine.html
maybe
https://www.google.ee/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=Hygroma+OR+Dynamic+TVEMF+OR+PEMF
But perhaps to ...
but they did say they was able to fix broken dog back
http://www.wehealanimals.com/bob/
http://www.wehealanimals.com/equine.html
maybe
https://www.google.ee/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=Hygroma+OR+Dynamic+TVEMF+OR+PEMF
But perhaps to ...
but they did say they was able to fix broken dog back
17 March 2015 23:10
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Ei võõrvägede kohalolekule Eestis
Et mis Sa selle all mõtled?
Kas see on hea, et vene paigaldab või see oli hea, et USA paigaldas?
Ja Prantslased ju on Vene poolel alati olnud, juba 1000+ aastat tagasi kui vaatad neid samu Normanne kes prantsuse üle võtsid ja kes Venemaa tegid.
Saksamaa aga kas ta kolmas kord julgeb ka endalt vangi rüüd maha ajada ?
Lahendused lahendused.. mis on lahendused... sh moslemite teema ka ja globaalne viisnurga soov meid omada lõplikult , vist eks ?
Ja kas Usa on meie või Vene poolel, tegelikult ?17 March 2015 22:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Mõnel neist kümneid millioneid kuulajaid, mitte, et me kadedad oleks, aga kui see on midagi mis inimesi hinges tühjaks teeb tegelikult ja ohtlikus relvaks,
kuid kõik relvad peavad olema aga heade käes, sh ka inimrelvad.
Siin list eepilistest tegelastest, kuid noh eks neid liste omakorda tuleb veel uurida sest vahest meelega meeldivaid inimeis pannakse ühte ritta kollidega, et mainet murda
http://www.freeworldfilmworks.com/dov-10danger.htm
KUi meie ei tee seda mis meile lihtne, sis kes meie jaosk seda tegema peaks, et ilm kindlalt headuse suunas areneks, et saaks magama rahuliku südamega minna, sellise südamega mida kunagi enam ei kõiguta miski, sest teamehttp://www.freeworldfilmworks.com/dov-10danger.htm
17 March 2015 22:15
Margus Meigo commented on Levi Kivi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Hakk-liha ostes olete ju näinud kuidas kõik vere lägaga koos on17 March 2015 22:07
Margus Meigo commented on Levi Kivi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ei ole veel olemas liha millelt vere välja saaks, või teate mõnda millelt saab v? Kas mitte veel üks tavalisi roogasi restoranides pole "pool verine" kus pole lõpuni praetud ja siis veri voolab veel taldrikul kenasti ?17 March 2015 22:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Maris see vinge, aga mis kuupäeval siis täpsemalt oli, pragust kalendrit unustades, et ... kuidas siis üle ilma massiliselt palju sellel ajal seda kirja ei pandud kuskil ?
Mis paberid selle kohta on üle maa mida leitud ?
Seda peaks ju surm kindlat teadma Rooma kirik vähemalt ja Juudid ka siseringkonnas, see oleks liialt veider kui ei teaks.
Maavärina osas oleme kindlad vähemalt eks, see mujal maailmas ka kirja pandud?17 March 2015 22:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
ja need hästi kuulsad mega kiriku inimesed ja kes telekas raha kokku kuhjavad, kas need samad nagu suur autoriteedid nagu Pat Robertson ?
Me peame hakkama korda looma ja mitte ainult Eesti piires,
nad veel mõnda aega elus, oluline oleks oodata vastuseid neilt kes tunduvad veidrad ja kui tipust ei vastata siis võtta vastuse proove mitmelt poolt madalamalt ja seda neile omale tippu tagasi esitleda, et kas see sobib nende ametlikuks vastuseks,
selleks ei pea olema kana alati, et teada milline muna on mäda,
ja mooduseid kuidas mäda muna välja filtreerida oskavad igasugused tehnikud.
Lihtsalt, kui keegi mõtleb.. et mis mina.. kiriku kauge inimene .. siin majandab.
Mitte, et parim kaitse oleks rünnak aga ... ma usun, et see saab hea olema.17 March 2015 21:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Okey, alustuseks, need kus koertena põrandal roomasid ja ennast purju naersid inimesed, kas need ühed ja samad nendega kes käe külge panevadja siis karjudes eluvaimu sisse ajavad
mis nende õigustus ja kes luba andis,
mis on murekohad tõsisemad17 March 2015 21:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
ja kas need need samad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT5RlM-p3oA
või omakorda veel peenem sekt, üks raha peal (ja, et muljet teistele paha jätta) ja teine vaimu nakatamise peal.. kuidas see legaalne on, miks vatikan lubabhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT5RlM-p3oA
17 March 2015 21:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Neil see kosmilise ema arusaam ja muud planeedid eluega ka, kui arutasime Londonis17 March 2015 21:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
aa.. et nagu see kuidagi loeb sedasi, etkui põhi olulised isikud üle võtad, siis ülejäänud järgnevad suures vaimus ?17 March 2015 21:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Kuid Uus Maailma Kord on ju hea, eks ? Või tahame, et see jääks mis praegu ajutiselt on?17 March 2015 21:12
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kuidas ise arvad Aivar, kumb on ka targa kindlam arusaam selgtamiseks ja millistele arusaamadele viis, on viinud üks ja teine ?17 March 2015 20:27
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Kristlased
Senikaua kui inimese pärdik oma tarkusega vahepeal sorkima ei hakka17 March 2015 20:27
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Kristlased
Mõlemad on korrektsed17 March 2015 20:26
Margus Meigo commented on Fatworks's photo.
Afol animal un needed fat, no good for fod but perhaps usable in machinery
17 March 2015 17:54
Margus Meigo commented on Mags Roberts's post.
Group: Feminism, Gender, & Global Society
what about God power17 March 2015 05:26
Margus Meigo commented on Mags Roberts's post.
Group: Feminism, Gender, & Global Society
and who directs the people, and what kind of people17 March 2015 05:26
Margus Meigo commented on Natalie Cartledge's post.
Group: Feminism, Gender, & Global Society
it is
it is also fault how society trained women to handle man, as a toy or as a impencille...
not communicating directly17 March 2015 05:25
Margus Meigo commented on Rafaella Gunz's post.
Group: Feminism, Gender, & Global Society
would there be man complaingin if black feminist make "White Dick(heads)" as a group name.
Okey, they not caring about issues so probabaly not,
But this is just making huge favor to a group and i would be not supriced if that was planned like this by the group to get more fans
why else to make favor to them, but am not even interested to go and confirm, if their music is any worth but thanks to this article, is only way i ever find out about them,
just think about it17 March 2015 05:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Naist
17 March 2015 03:36
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
"Chris Hedges previously spent nearly two decades as a foreign correspondent in Central America, the Middle East, Africa and the Balkans. He has reported from more than 50 countries and has worked for The Christian Science Monitor, National Public Radio, The Dallas Morning News and The New York Times, for which he was a foreign correspondent for 15 years."
so what is her excuse for telling silly things like that, is not like She would be unable to know , what is actuall situation
so what is her excuse for telling silly things like that, is not like She would be unable to know , what is actuall situation
17 March 2015 02:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
pla pla pla what a communist bolloc
make a people who run in high qualified position about other people lives, make their pay as low as avarage worker, are you retarded lady ?
This is just sickening, really, that nice women speaks horse poo like that.
4 times of the avarage pay should be avarage low level politican pay, at least, + depeding how much expences there should be some funds to support that as well.
the competition to these places should be from grass root up from local community who knows what value and skills who has,
anyone running in any departement MUST have this spesific aria profession higer then most other people in same departement in university.
oh there ws just so much bolloc in this article,
taking in to account, that capitalist and communist IS the SAME SYSTEM, seriously, how hard to see, or the socialist what they call it.
they still promote eating the same carp food, looking same crap tv entertament and caring little abut nature enought to actually make effort and sht down all meat eaiing indrusties17 March 2015 02:53
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
this is just shows how mony minded some people can be, thinking, tha THIS is the problem and issue, how much politicans get payd.. NO IT IS NOT ... at all..
in my country they get terribly so little, that if i would be billionaire would personaly pey them more so they woudlmake better work,
i think i rather shall become billionaire as well as am have considered in last 10 years, jsut to show what it can be
in my country they get terribly so little, that if i would be billionaire would personaly pey them more so they woudlmake better work,
i think i rather shall become billionaire as well as am have considered in last 10 years, jsut to show what it can be
17 March 2015 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
and i am poor person, who lived just last year, ower a year, in london streets
17 March 2015 02:44
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
really silly and low level thinkng, that people who run gowernemnt and strugle for other people lives only should get as much as avarage worker, this is retarded, minimum 4 times as mch as avarage, should be the pay
17 March 2015 02:43
Margus Meigo commented on Yeshua's video.
haar genre as well
17 March 2015 02:30
Margus Meigo commented on Yeshua's video.
So the Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia ortodox church is right (they have cross like that)
17 March 2015 02:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
ja mis muu maa kalendrid, omas ajas seda aega kirja on pannud?17 March 2015 02:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Mis aasta siis KINDLAT juudi kalendris, mis kuupäev oli, see peaks ju neil endal ikka kindalt kirjas olema ?
Väiksemate inimeste surmad märgitud kalendrisse, sadu aastaid enne Jeesust.17 March 2015 02:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
OKey aga siis kas see, maailma suurimaid sündmusi mis siiani juhtunud on planeedil viimase 5000 aasta jooksul,
milliste tolleaegsete kalendrite süsteemides ja kirjastustes see märgitud on, üle maailma ju see uudis levis, salonomil juba enda üle maailmne iniminternet võrgustik oli mis iga ilma nurga peal toimuvast teada andis,
seega see uudis peaks olema päris paljudes, (kui alles jäänud) märkmetes erinevate kalendritega kultuurides17 March 2015 02:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Just, selle pärast inimesed kasutavatki neid seeni ja asju, et järgmine päev oleks HEA olla, et saaks KINDEL olla, et sa pühade asjadega tegeled ja nagu piibel ütleb, kui küsid siis ka saad, niisama käed risti istudes ja midagi selleks mitte tegemiseks jah, saab harva.
Kuid jah, see ammu selgeks tehtud, et inimestel on VÄGA hea olla järgmine päev ja mõnel kogu elu, ainuüksi ühest korrast Jumala palge ette minnes, eks see oleneb ka lellel kui suur pundar südamel on,
üleolevalt looduse suhtes tundes ja tarkuse peale sülitades muidugi jah.. eks see antakse mõnda aega andeks, seni kuni sa otseselt inimesi takistama ei hakka jumala maailmaga suhtlemisel (ehk siis inimesi eemale veenma neist taimedest teenides selle maa vastast printsi, kes tõepoolest oma masina ja homo armeega soovib, et inimesed pimedaks jääks suures osas, ...natuke on lubatud, siis seda tarkust oma kasuks saavad kasutada..)17 March 2015 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
With all that we still kind of forget to mention the http://web-history.blogspot.com/2015/03/twoheadtiesgreekromanrussiangermansumers.html and all that in combination with the real situation that the five stars is the one who controls the education and the minds
its all about getting us away from nature then any government would be handicapped and needs all kind of services and help to the end of times from the flood of sick people ... but all empires have fallen that is unable to keep people love, and the requirements for the real love is increasing
its all about getting us away from nature then any government would be handicapped and needs all kind of services and help to the end of times from the flood of sick people ... but all empires have fallen that is unable to keep people love, and the requirements for the real love is increasing
http://web-history.blogspot.com/2015/03/twoheadtiesgreekromanrussiangermansumers.html
17 March 2015 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
“Future workshops” in Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia
In July 2010, the 21st German-Russian future workshop with approximately 40 participants took place in the context of the Petersburg Dialogue between Germany and Russia in Yekaterinburg. These seminars, to which young Russian high-level personnel is invited regularly, were established in September 2004 by the German Society for Foreign Policy, which organized the first “future workshop” on the topic “Germany and Russia in the global world” in the Bertelsmann publishing house Gruner und Jahr in Hamburg. The goal of the seminars, which today are supported by the Körber Foundation, is to account for the communist past and to spread the idea of the democratic civil society. The German speakers explain the young Russians that a strategic partnership with Russia would be possible only on the basis of common western values. They advise them to eliminate the imperial inheritance of Russia and submit to the rules of globalization.
The Germans tell the Russians that they have already discussed the consequences of war and National Socialism in Germany since the 1960s and have come to terms with the past, and accuse the Russians to stick to Soviet identity by remembering the victory in the Second World War. They also say that the Russians were not willing to tackle totalitarianism comprehensively, and thus prevented a further democratization of their society. The Russian participants answer that in 1991 a breach in their historical consciousness took place, which led to the decay of fundamental values in their society. So far, the Russians are not willing to completely “separate from the past” and accept the “universal values”.
Source: Newsletter, DGAP, 20 July 2010
In July 2010, the 21st German-Russian future workshop with approximately 40 participants took place in the context of the Petersburg Dialogue between Germany and Russia in Yekaterinburg. These seminars, to which young Russian high-level personnel is invited regularly, were established in September 2004 by the German Society for Foreign Policy, which organized the first “future workshop” on the topic “Germany and Russia in the global world” in the Bertelsmann publishing house Gruner und Jahr in Hamburg. The goal of the seminars, which today are supported by the Körber Foundation, is to account for the communist past and to spread the idea of the democratic civil society. The German speakers explain the young Russians that a strategic partnership with Russia would be possible only on the basis of common western values. They advise them to eliminate the imperial inheritance of Russia and submit to the rules of globalization.
The Germans tell the Russians that they have already discussed the consequences of war and National Socialism in Germany since the 1960s and have come to terms with the past, and accuse the Russians to stick to Soviet identity by remembering the victory in the Second World War. They also say that the Russians were not willing to tackle totalitarianism comprehensively, and thus prevented a further democratization of their society. The Russian participants answer that in 1991 a breach in their historical consciousness took place, which led to the decay of fundamental values in their society. So far, the Russians are not willing to completely “separate from the past” and accept the “universal values”.
Source: Newsletter, DGAP, 20 July 2010
17 March 2015 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
onclusions
Nowadays, Russia finds itself in a crisis, which is first expressed in the financial and monetary system, but has also hit the cultural sector. Its deeper cause is that the pluralistic secular society does not provide the people with a real community, a world view and a sense in life.
Russia does not need the “materialistic and egoistic culture” of the present western society, but a universal national ideology, which includes all aspects of the people’s lives, develops the country and averts all danger that threatens the people’s existence.37
The “revised version” [reset] of the Russian-American relations during the last two years has however changed nothing in the long-term anti-Russian orientation of the American policy and does not prevent the CIA from being more active than ever in Russia. After Obama’s visit in Moscow Hillary Clinton also stressed that the USA hold on to their idea of the absolute world leader. Russia will sooner or later face the choice either to develop a sovereign state which closes its borders and repels the undermining of its culture, or to capitulate and become a province of the West. •
1 Basil Liddell Hart, Strategy: The Indirect Approach, 1st ed. 1929, 2nd ed. 1954
2 Christopher Simpson, Science of Coercion: Communication Research and Psychological Warfare, 1945–1960, New York, Oxford U.P. 1994, p. 4
3 Simpson, Science of Coercion, p. 87
4 A. Ross Johnson, R. Eugene Parta, Cold War Broadcasting: Impact on the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, Woodrow Wilson International Center, Washington 2010
5 Frances Stonor Saunders, Who Paid the Piper? The CIA and the Cultural Cold War, London 1999, dt. Ausgabe: Wer die Zeche zahlt … Der CIA und die Kultur im Kalten Krieg, Berlin 2001; Simpson, Science of Coercion, p. 68
6 Peter Schweizer, Victory: The Reagan Administration’s Secret Strategy That Hastened the Collapse of the Soviet Union, New York 1994
7 S.G. Kara-Murza, A.A. Aleksandrov, M.A. Muraškin, S.A. Telegin, Revolucii na eksport [Revolutionen für den Export], Moskva, 2006
8 Quoted from: V.I.Jakunin, V.Bagdasarjan, S.S.Sulakšin, Novye technologii bor’by s rossijskoj gosudarstvennost’ju [New Technologies in the Fight against the Russian State], Moskva, 2009, p. 50
9 Joseph Nye, Bound to Lead: the Changing Nature of American Power, Basic Books 1990; Joseph Nye, Transformational Leadership and U.S. Grand Strategy, Foreign Affairs, vol. 85, No. 4, July/August 2006, pp. 139–148
10 Richard Armitage, Joseph S. Nye, A Smarter, More Secure America, CSIS Commission on Smart Power, 2009
11 Peter Schweizer, Victory: The Reagan Administrations’s Secret Strategy That Hastened the Collapse of the Soviet Union, New York 1994
12 This can be read in the official Yeltsin biography written by Wladimir Solov’ev and Elena Klepikowa, Boris Yeltsin: A Political Biography, 1992. After having heard Yeltsin in a Congressional committee, David Rockefeller said: “This is our man!”
13 O. A. Platonov, Rossija pod vlast’ju masonov [Russia in the hands oft he Freemasons], Moskva 2000, S. 35.
14 Platonov, Rossija, p. 3.
15 Platonov, Rossija, p. 15.
16 Jakunin, Novye techologii, S. 81.
17 Jakunin, Novye technologii, S. 90
18 Jakunin, Novye technologii, S. 94f.
19 Jakunin, Novye technologii, S. 92.
20 www.pravda.ru 03/19/2008.
21 Gerlind Schmidt, Russische Föderation, in: Hans Döbert, Wolfgang Hörner, Botho von Kopp, Lutz R. Reuter (ed.), Die Bildungssysteme Europas, Hohengehren 2010 ( = Grundlagen der Schulpädagogik, vol. 46, 3rd ed.), p. 619.
22 Schmidt, Russische Föderation, p. 635.
23 Schmidt, Russische Föderation, p. 632.
24 Pierre Hillard, Bertelsmann – un empire des médias et une fondation au service du mondialisme, Paris 2009, p. 27.
25 «1. In the Russian Federation ideological diversity shall be recognized. 2. No ideology may be established as state or obligatory one.” Art. 13 of the constitution of the Russian Federation, December 1993.
26 A. Cernych, Mir sovremennych media [The world of current media], Moskva 2007.
27 Roland Haug, Die Kreml AG, Hohenheim 2007.
28 Schmidt, Russische Föderation, p. 639.
29 Das Feindbild Westen im heutigen Russland, Stiftung Wissenschaft und Politik, Berlin 2008.
30 Vladimir Malachov, Sovremennyj russkij nacionalizm [The current Russian nationalism], in: Vitalij Kurennoj, Mysljaškaja Rossija: Kartografija sovremennych intellektual’nych napravlenij [The reflecting Russia: Cartography oft he current intellectual mainstreams], Moskva 2006, p. 141 ff.
31 Interview with Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Der Spiegel No. 30, 23/07/2007; Marc Stegherr, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Kirchliche Umschau, No. 10, October 2008
32 Nikolaj Plotnikov, Russkie intellektualy v Germanii [Russian Intellectuals in Germany], in: Kurennoj, Mysljaškaja Rossija, a.a.O., p. 328.
33 Westen ohne Werte? Gespräch mit Natalja Alexejewna Narotschnizkaja, Direktorin des russischen Instituts für Demokratie und Zusammenarbeit in Paris, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Nr. 51, 29.02.2008.
34 Jakunin, Novye technologii, p. 196ff.
35 Interview in: Der Spiegel
36 Der Spiegel, Nr. 51, 14/12/2009.
37 Pope Benedict XVI Encyclic «Spe salvi», Rome 2007, in which he talks about a «dictatorship of relativism»; Jakunin, Novye technologii, p. 174f.
* Dr Peter Bachmaier, born in Vienna in 1940, studied in Graz, Belgrade and Moscow, 1972 – 2005 member of the Austrian Institute for East and South-East Europe, since 2006 secretary of the Bulgarian Research Institute in Austria; in 2009 three-month studies in Moscow. Lecture, held at the conference “Mut zur Ethik” in Feldkirch, 3 September 2010.
Nowadays, Russia finds itself in a crisis, which is first expressed in the financial and monetary system, but has also hit the cultural sector. Its deeper cause is that the pluralistic secular society does not provide the people with a real community, a world view and a sense in life.
Russia does not need the “materialistic and egoistic culture” of the present western society, but a universal national ideology, which includes all aspects of the people’s lives, develops the country and averts all danger that threatens the people’s existence.37
The “revised version” [reset] of the Russian-American relations during the last two years has however changed nothing in the long-term anti-Russian orientation of the American policy and does not prevent the CIA from being more active than ever in Russia. After Obama’s visit in Moscow Hillary Clinton also stressed that the USA hold on to their idea of the absolute world leader. Russia will sooner or later face the choice either to develop a sovereign state which closes its borders and repels the undermining of its culture, or to capitulate and become a province of the West. •
1 Basil Liddell Hart, Strategy: The Indirect Approach, 1st ed. 1929, 2nd ed. 1954
2 Christopher Simpson, Science of Coercion: Communication Research and Psychological Warfare, 1945–1960, New York, Oxford U.P. 1994, p. 4
3 Simpson, Science of Coercion, p. 87
4 A. Ross Johnson, R. Eugene Parta, Cold War Broadcasting: Impact on the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, Woodrow Wilson International Center, Washington 2010
5 Frances Stonor Saunders, Who Paid the Piper? The CIA and the Cultural Cold War, London 1999, dt. Ausgabe: Wer die Zeche zahlt … Der CIA und die Kultur im Kalten Krieg, Berlin 2001; Simpson, Science of Coercion, p. 68
6 Peter Schweizer, Victory: The Reagan Administration’s Secret Strategy That Hastened the Collapse of the Soviet Union, New York 1994
7 S.G. Kara-Murza, A.A. Aleksandrov, M.A. Muraškin, S.A. Telegin, Revolucii na eksport [Revolutionen für den Export], Moskva, 2006
8 Quoted from: V.I.Jakunin, V.Bagdasarjan, S.S.Sulakšin, Novye technologii bor’by s rossijskoj gosudarstvennost’ju [New Technologies in the Fight against the Russian State], Moskva, 2009, p. 50
9 Joseph Nye, Bound to Lead: the Changing Nature of American Power, Basic Books 1990; Joseph Nye, Transformational Leadership and U.S. Grand Strategy, Foreign Affairs, vol. 85, No. 4, July/August 2006, pp. 139–148
10 Richard Armitage, Joseph S. Nye, A Smarter, More Secure America, CSIS Commission on Smart Power, 2009
11 Peter Schweizer, Victory: The Reagan Administrations’s Secret Strategy That Hastened the Collapse of the Soviet Union, New York 1994
12 This can be read in the official Yeltsin biography written by Wladimir Solov’ev and Elena Klepikowa, Boris Yeltsin: A Political Biography, 1992. After having heard Yeltsin in a Congressional committee, David Rockefeller said: “This is our man!”
13 O. A. Platonov, Rossija pod vlast’ju masonov [Russia in the hands oft he Freemasons], Moskva 2000, S. 35.
14 Platonov, Rossija, p. 3.
15 Platonov, Rossija, p. 15.
16 Jakunin, Novye techologii, S. 81.
17 Jakunin, Novye technologii, S. 90
18 Jakunin, Novye technologii, S. 94f.
19 Jakunin, Novye technologii, S. 92.
20 www.pravda.ru 03/19/2008.
21 Gerlind Schmidt, Russische Föderation, in: Hans Döbert, Wolfgang Hörner, Botho von Kopp, Lutz R. Reuter (ed.), Die Bildungssysteme Europas, Hohengehren 2010 ( = Grundlagen der Schulpädagogik, vol. 46, 3rd ed.), p. 619.
22 Schmidt, Russische Föderation, p. 635.
23 Schmidt, Russische Föderation, p. 632.
24 Pierre Hillard, Bertelsmann – un empire des médias et une fondation au service du mondialisme, Paris 2009, p. 27.
25 «1. In the Russian Federation ideological diversity shall be recognized. 2. No ideology may be established as state or obligatory one.” Art. 13 of the constitution of the Russian Federation, December 1993.
26 A. Cernych, Mir sovremennych media [The world of current media], Moskva 2007.
27 Roland Haug, Die Kreml AG, Hohenheim 2007.
28 Schmidt, Russische Föderation, p. 639.
29 Das Feindbild Westen im heutigen Russland, Stiftung Wissenschaft und Politik, Berlin 2008.
30 Vladimir Malachov, Sovremennyj russkij nacionalizm [The current Russian nationalism], in: Vitalij Kurennoj, Mysljaškaja Rossija: Kartografija sovremennych intellektual’nych napravlenij [The reflecting Russia: Cartography oft he current intellectual mainstreams], Moskva 2006, p. 141 ff.
31 Interview with Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Der Spiegel No. 30, 23/07/2007; Marc Stegherr, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Kirchliche Umschau, No. 10, October 2008
32 Nikolaj Plotnikov, Russkie intellektualy v Germanii [Russian Intellectuals in Germany], in: Kurennoj, Mysljaškaja Rossija, a.a.O., p. 328.
33 Westen ohne Werte? Gespräch mit Natalja Alexejewna Narotschnizkaja, Direktorin des russischen Instituts für Demokratie und Zusammenarbeit in Paris, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Nr. 51, 29.02.2008.
34 Jakunin, Novye technologii, p. 196ff.
35 Interview in: Der Spiegel
36 Der Spiegel, Nr. 51, 14/12/2009.
37 Pope Benedict XVI Encyclic «Spe salvi», Rome 2007, in which he talks about a «dictatorship of relativism»; Jakunin, Novye technologii, p. 174f.
* Dr Peter Bachmaier, born in Vienna in 1940, studied in Graz, Belgrade and Moscow, 1972 – 2005 member of the Austrian Institute for East and South-East Europe, since 2006 secretary of the Bulgarian Research Institute in Austria; in 2009 three-month studies in Moscow. Lecture, held at the conference “Mut zur Ethik” in Feldkirch, 3 September 2010.
http://www.pravda.ru/
17 March 2015 01:29
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Religious renewal
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The decisive resistance against westernization today comes from the Orthodox Church, which is anti-modernist and traditionalist. The Orthodoxy advocates traditional values such as marriage, family and maternity and rejects homosexuality. The churches are full, predominantly with young and very young people. The majority of the young people confess to orthodoxy, i.e. to Christianity, and marries in Church, again. There are again 100 million faithful, 30 000 priests and 600 monasteries. The Clerical Academy in Sergyev Possad is filled; there are four applicants for one place. There is an orthodox radio station, a publishing house, a number of magazines, military clergymen in the army as well as a hospital and a prison ministry, and in the schools Religious Education has de facto been reintroduced for the first time since 1917. According to a survey, 70% of the Russians call themselves religious.34
In 2007 the Russian-Orthodox Church and the Vatican decided to resume talks in order to eliminate their differences of so many years. Archbishop Ilarion, head of the Foreign Office of the patriarchy, former Russian-Orthodox bishop of Vienna, commented that “We are allies and face the same challenge: an aggressive secularism.”35
Orthodoxy is called the “religion of the majority” in Russia. On 4 November, the day of nationhood in Russia, I could observe an unusual procession on the Red Square. The Patriarch walked in the first row, the leaders of the Islam, the Jewish community and the Buddhists in the second. That was meant as a visible symbol: “The Patriarch is the head of the predominating religion. He unifies the faithful and promotes the co-operation of the religious communities. The Patriarch is the mental leader of the whole people, not only of the orthodox believers.”36
// ONLY??
The decisive resistance against westernization today comes from the Orthodox Church, which is anti-modernist and traditionalist. The Orthodoxy advocates traditional values such as marriage, family and maternity and rejects homosexuality. The churches are full, predominantly with young and very young people. The majority of the young people confess to orthodoxy, i.e. to Christianity, and marries in Church, again. There are again 100 million faithful, 30 000 priests and 600 monasteries. The Clerical Academy in Sergyev Possad is filled; there are four applicants for one place. There is an orthodox radio station, a publishing house, a number of magazines, military clergymen in the army as well as a hospital and a prison ministry, and in the schools Religious Education has de facto been reintroduced for the first time since 1917. According to a survey, 70% of the Russians call themselves religious.34
In 2007 the Russian-Orthodox Church and the Vatican decided to resume talks in order to eliminate their differences of so many years. Archbishop Ilarion, head of the Foreign Office of the patriarchy, former Russian-Orthodox bishop of Vienna, commented that “We are allies and face the same challenge: an aggressive secularism.”35
Orthodoxy is called the “religion of the majority” in Russia. On 4 November, the day of nationhood in Russia, I could observe an unusual procession on the Red Square. The Patriarch walked in the first row, the leaders of the Islam, the Jewish community and the Buddhists in the second. That was meant as a visible symbol: “The Patriarch is the head of the predominating religion. He unifies the faithful and promotes the co-operation of the religious communities. The Patriarch is the mental leader of the whole people, not only of the orthodox believers.”36
17 March 2015 01:29
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The resistance of the Russian state and the intelligentsia
The state concept implemented by president Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin since 2000, in particular the demand for a strong state, included a partial re-centralization, the transition from a multinational to a nationally influenced understanding of the Russian state as well as the tendency to grant to the Russian-orthodox church and religion a privileged position within the state.
In April 2001 the national energy company Gazprom took over the control of the TV station NTW. The daily paper “Sewodnja” (Today) was discontinued, the editor-in-chief of the weekly magazine was dismissed. Boris Beresovski’s television station TW-6 was closed in January 2002 and Beresovski emigrated to England.
In September 2003 the oil tycoon Mikhail Khodorkovski wanted to take over the liberal weekly paper Moskowskije Nowosti (Moscow News), in order to support the liberal opposition parties Union of Right Forces and Jabloko in the forthcoming election campaign. This political activity was an important reason why Khodorkovski was arrested in October 2003. These measures had been necessary, because otherwise the oligarchy would have succeeded in gaining control of the government with the help of media power. The three most important television stations – ORT, Rossya and NTW – as well as an important part of the print media are controlled by national companies (Gazprom and Vneshtorgbank) or directly by the state (RTR), today.
The oligarch Vladimir Potanin is still controling the daily papers “Izvestya” and “Komsomolskaya Pravda”. At present the “Novaya Gaseta” (under control of the oligarch Alexander Lebedev and former Soviet president Gorbachev) and the daily paper “Wedomosti” (a project of the “Wall Street Journal” and “Financial Times”) are considered to be media independent of the government.26 Since 1993, 214 journalists have been murdered in Russia, statistics say, 201 journalists in the Yeltsin era and 13 since Putin has taken office; most of them in his first term of office, whereas during the second term there were only three.27
The 1999 national doctrine for education and the conception of 2001 reintroduced national and patriotic ideas into the content-related, ideological sphere. A shift towards the values of the Tsar era met with the postulate to maintain the advantages of the Soviet Union’s educational system. The private schools and clerical academies run by the Russian-orthodox church and officially recognized since 2007 hold a privileged position. New topics such as the mandatory preparation for military services and, since 2007, the new subject “Foundations of Orthodox Culture” have been introduced into the school’s curricula.28
One means of the cultural war was the campaign of the western media against Russia, which has been going on for ten years, now, especially since Khodorkovsky was arrested in 2003 and the slogan of which is “Russia on the way back to the Soviet system!” A further example is the so-called persecution of progressive artists, which is said to consist of the removal of so-called blasphemic and pornographic works from public exhibitions. These were, however, mainly provocations by NGOs financed by the west. The Sakharov Center, whose aim is to implement the open society, organized an exhibition in 2003 called “Caution! Religion”, which also showed blaspheme and anti-Christian exhibits. Thereupon the Duma demanded to take action against the leadership of the center from the public prosecutor’s office. In 2005 the organizers were adjudged to a penalty.
In the year 2005 the government introduced a new national holiday on 4 November, close to the old anniversary of the October Revolution on 7 November. This time, however, the victory over the Polish invasion troops in 1612 was to be celebrated. In 2006 a new law was passed dealing with the non-governmental organizations, according to which they all had to re-register and their funding from abroad was to be controlled more strictly. In early 2008 all regional offices of the British Council were closed, except the Muscovite office, because the Council was criticized for anti-Russian activity.29
In contrast to the time of the Perestroika and the Yeltsin era the Russian intelligentsia was no longer neoliberal, since the NATO attack on Yugoslavia in 1999 but national-patriotically minded. The writers, artists, film makers and the theatre people are patriots today and are supported by the Kremlin. The government also controls the political reporting of the media, particularly on television, but a bit less in the newspapers.
The main figure of the traditionalists has formerly been Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, who was however criticized for his insufficient criticism of the West. The leading group today are the “down-to-earth people” [po venniki]; they are Christian orthodox, but see the Soviet period in the tradition of Russian history. Their ideologists are village writers such as Valentin Rasputin, Vassily Belov and Viktor Astafyev. In the magazines “Nash sovremennik”, “Moskva” and “Molodaya gvardya” the patriotic ideology has been elaborated since the 1970s and 1980s.
The Foundation for the Historical Perspective, which is managed by the former Duma MP Natalya Narotshnizkaya, representing a patriotic and Christian program, possesses the series of publications “Zvenja”, the Internet magazine “Stoletie” and organizes lectures and conferences. The national-patriotic intelligentsia discusses a fundamental change of the system, planning a strong state and a closure of the borders. The federations of creative artists like the writers’ federation, the artists’ federation, the federation of the filmmakers have cultural centers, galleries, cinema centers and magazines at their disposal and organize a dense program of events. There are 150 theatres, opera houses and concert halls in Moscow, which predominantly perform classical plays and concerts. Director’s theatres, abstract art and atonal music are a minority’s program.30
Austria and Germany are seen positively, above all the old German culture is seen in a positive light; they have an idea of it, which comes from the past, but they do not really know, what is taking place in Germany today. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn hoped that Germany could form a kind of bridge between Russia and the remainder of the world as Germany and Russia feel mutually attracted to each other.31 The German media however draw a distorted picture of Russia: that Russia was on the way back to the Soviet system and that the neoliberal intellectuals fight a desperate battle of defense. As an example, they present the pornographic author Viktor Jerofejev, who was invited to Germany by the magazine Die Zeit.32 The crucial question in Russia today is not, however, whether it will become a communist dictatorship again, but whether it will become a western-style “dictatorship of relativism” or a Christian society.33
The state concept implemented by president Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin since 2000, in particular the demand for a strong state, included a partial re-centralization, the transition from a multinational to a nationally influenced understanding of the Russian state as well as the tendency to grant to the Russian-orthodox church and religion a privileged position within the state.
In April 2001 the national energy company Gazprom took over the control of the TV station NTW. The daily paper “Sewodnja” (Today) was discontinued, the editor-in-chief of the weekly magazine was dismissed. Boris Beresovski’s television station TW-6 was closed in January 2002 and Beresovski emigrated to England.
In September 2003 the oil tycoon Mikhail Khodorkovski wanted to take over the liberal weekly paper Moskowskije Nowosti (Moscow News), in order to support the liberal opposition parties Union of Right Forces and Jabloko in the forthcoming election campaign. This political activity was an important reason why Khodorkovski was arrested in October 2003. These measures had been necessary, because otherwise the oligarchy would have succeeded in gaining control of the government with the help of media power. The three most important television stations – ORT, Rossya and NTW – as well as an important part of the print media are controlled by national companies (Gazprom and Vneshtorgbank) or directly by the state (RTR), today.
The oligarch Vladimir Potanin is still controling the daily papers “Izvestya” and “Komsomolskaya Pravda”. At present the “Novaya Gaseta” (under control of the oligarch Alexander Lebedev and former Soviet president Gorbachev) and the daily paper “Wedomosti” (a project of the “Wall Street Journal” and “Financial Times”) are considered to be media independent of the government.26 Since 1993, 214 journalists have been murdered in Russia, statistics say, 201 journalists in the Yeltsin era and 13 since Putin has taken office; most of them in his first term of office, whereas during the second term there were only three.27
The 1999 national doctrine for education and the conception of 2001 reintroduced national and patriotic ideas into the content-related, ideological sphere. A shift towards the values of the Tsar era met with the postulate to maintain the advantages of the Soviet Union’s educational system. The private schools and clerical academies run by the Russian-orthodox church and officially recognized since 2007 hold a privileged position. New topics such as the mandatory preparation for military services and, since 2007, the new subject “Foundations of Orthodox Culture” have been introduced into the school’s curricula.28
One means of the cultural war was the campaign of the western media against Russia, which has been going on for ten years, now, especially since Khodorkovsky was arrested in 2003 and the slogan of which is “Russia on the way back to the Soviet system!” A further example is the so-called persecution of progressive artists, which is said to consist of the removal of so-called blasphemic and pornographic works from public exhibitions. These were, however, mainly provocations by NGOs financed by the west. The Sakharov Center, whose aim is to implement the open society, organized an exhibition in 2003 called “Caution! Religion”, which also showed blaspheme and anti-Christian exhibits. Thereupon the Duma demanded to take action against the leadership of the center from the public prosecutor’s office. In 2005 the organizers were adjudged to a penalty.
In the year 2005 the government introduced a new national holiday on 4 November, close to the old anniversary of the October Revolution on 7 November. This time, however, the victory over the Polish invasion troops in 1612 was to be celebrated. In 2006 a new law was passed dealing with the non-governmental organizations, according to which they all had to re-register and their funding from abroad was to be controlled more strictly. In early 2008 all regional offices of the British Council were closed, except the Muscovite office, because the Council was criticized for anti-Russian activity.29
In contrast to the time of the Perestroika and the Yeltsin era the Russian intelligentsia was no longer neoliberal, since the NATO attack on Yugoslavia in 1999 but national-patriotically minded. The writers, artists, film makers and the theatre people are patriots today and are supported by the Kremlin. The government also controls the political reporting of the media, particularly on television, but a bit less in the newspapers.
The main figure of the traditionalists has formerly been Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, who was however criticized for his insufficient criticism of the West. The leading group today are the “down-to-earth people” [po venniki]; they are Christian orthodox, but see the Soviet period in the tradition of Russian history. Their ideologists are village writers such as Valentin Rasputin, Vassily Belov and Viktor Astafyev. In the magazines “Nash sovremennik”, “Moskva” and “Molodaya gvardya” the patriotic ideology has been elaborated since the 1970s and 1980s.
The Foundation for the Historical Perspective, which is managed by the former Duma MP Natalya Narotshnizkaya, representing a patriotic and Christian program, possesses the series of publications “Zvenja”, the Internet magazine “Stoletie” and organizes lectures and conferences. The national-patriotic intelligentsia discusses a fundamental change of the system, planning a strong state and a closure of the borders. The federations of creative artists like the writers’ federation, the artists’ federation, the federation of the filmmakers have cultural centers, galleries, cinema centers and magazines at their disposal and organize a dense program of events. There are 150 theatres, opera houses and concert halls in Moscow, which predominantly perform classical plays and concerts. Director’s theatres, abstract art and atonal music are a minority’s program.30
Austria and Germany are seen positively, above all the old German culture is seen in a positive light; they have an idea of it, which comes from the past, but they do not really know, what is taking place in Germany today. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn hoped that Germany could form a kind of bridge between Russia and the remainder of the world as Germany and Russia feel mutually attracted to each other.31 The German media however draw a distorted picture of Russia: that Russia was on the way back to the Soviet system and that the neoliberal intellectuals fight a desperate battle of defense. As an example, they present the pornographic author Viktor Jerofejev, who was invited to Germany by the magazine Die Zeit.32 The crucial question in Russia today is not, however, whether it will become a communist dictatorship again, but whether it will become a western-style “dictatorship of relativism” or a Christian society.33
17 March 2015 01:28
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The western influence on the educational system and the media
An important long-term target of western lobbying has been the educational system and higher education. After the 1991 turnaround, centralism and Marxist ideology were eroded with the help of western advisors. The 1992 Education Act and the constitution of the Russian Federation of 1993 established a profound reorientation of the educational system following the western model of the neoliberal-democratic paradigm. It included the introduction of free market elements in the educational system and the construction of a civil society.21
Granting western credits to the educational system was closely linked to its compliance with the donors’ requirements. In this way the educational system was transformed according to the neoliberal concept. A non-governmental sector with expensive private schools was established. The private high schools and universities were profit-oriented and demanded school and study fees. The educational system was aligned to economic requirements by the PISA studies of the OECD. Many schools in rural areas were closed as they were no longer “profitable”. Today, many children do no longer go to school or they drop off. According to a UNESCO report, 1.5 million children in Russia did not attend a school in the year 2000. Drug abuse among schoolchildren spread, a phenomenon which was formerly unknown.22
The most important reform was that of university education, which was evaluated right after the 1989 turnaround by the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, which then worked out a program for a restructuring according to the Anglo-American model. In 2004, the Bologna Declaration was legally introduced: i.e. the transition to the four-year BA and the following two-year MA studies as well as the introduction of an administrative board with president and advisory board for universities whose members are also representatives of businesses. Many Russian education experts consider this to be a destruction of the Russian universities’ tradition, because the education process is reduced to the mere passing on of information. 40 % of the approximately 1000 colleges and universities in the Russia of today where the new elite is to be trained are privately owned and many of them were established by the West.23
A further sector, which is attentively watched by the West, is the media, which went through the largest transformation after 1991. After 1991, media were privatized by neoliberal reforms and taken over by oligarchs or by foreign countries. Many TV stations, newspapers and magazines were taken over by foreign owners like Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation, which publishes the most prominent financial Russian newspaper “Vedomosti” together with the “Financial Times”, and the largest advertising company News Outdoor Group, which is active in approximately 100 cities in Russia. The Bertelsmann Inc., which owns the largest European television program RTL, operates the country-wide program Ren TV.24 The Bertelsmann Foundation, founded in 1977 by Reinhard Mohn and now one of the most powerful think tanks in the European Union, co-operates with the Moscow-based Gorbachev Foundation, which also maintains branches in Germany and in the USA.
During the Yeltsin era, the media were almost completely in the hands of the new oligarchy, which was closely connected with the western financial centers. Gusinsky possessed the largest television station NTW, and Boris Beresovsky controlled the newspapers. When Putin began to re-stabilize the Russian state, the most urgent task was to regain control of the media, because otherwise the government would have been toppled.
Last not least, it is the everyday culture that has to be considered because with its rock concerts, the internet, private television programs, cinema palaces, discos, music CD, DVDs, comics, advertisements and fashion it is almost the same as in the West.
The aim of the American strategy is the transfer of the western system of values onto the Russian society. The Russian state is to be de-ideologized. In the 1993 constitution the national ideology was disavowed as characteristic of totalitarianism and prohibited in article 13.25
The official Soviet ideology was based on a materialistic philosophy, but it also included elements of a national idea and was the brace that held the state together. The state was deprived of its value orientations and the national idea by this prohibition. The mental vacuity has been filled by western popular culture .
The cultural offensive of the USA aims at establishing a multicultural, i.e. cosmopolitan, pluralistic and secular society in Russia, in which the uniform Russian national culture is dissolved. The people, i.e. the community of citizens with their common history and culture, are to be converted into a multinational population.
An important long-term target of western lobbying has been the educational system and higher education. After the 1991 turnaround, centralism and Marxist ideology were eroded with the help of western advisors. The 1992 Education Act and the constitution of the Russian Federation of 1993 established a profound reorientation of the educational system following the western model of the neoliberal-democratic paradigm. It included the introduction of free market elements in the educational system and the construction of a civil society.21
Granting western credits to the educational system was closely linked to its compliance with the donors’ requirements. In this way the educational system was transformed according to the neoliberal concept. A non-governmental sector with expensive private schools was established. The private high schools and universities were profit-oriented and demanded school and study fees. The educational system was aligned to economic requirements by the PISA studies of the OECD. Many schools in rural areas were closed as they were no longer “profitable”. Today, many children do no longer go to school or they drop off. According to a UNESCO report, 1.5 million children in Russia did not attend a school in the year 2000. Drug abuse among schoolchildren spread, a phenomenon which was formerly unknown.22
The most important reform was that of university education, which was evaluated right after the 1989 turnaround by the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, which then worked out a program for a restructuring according to the Anglo-American model. In 2004, the Bologna Declaration was legally introduced: i.e. the transition to the four-year BA and the following two-year MA studies as well as the introduction of an administrative board with president and advisory board for universities whose members are also representatives of businesses. Many Russian education experts consider this to be a destruction of the Russian universities’ tradition, because the education process is reduced to the mere passing on of information. 40 % of the approximately 1000 colleges and universities in the Russia of today where the new elite is to be trained are privately owned and many of them were established by the West.23
A further sector, which is attentively watched by the West, is the media, which went through the largest transformation after 1991. After 1991, media were privatized by neoliberal reforms and taken over by oligarchs or by foreign countries. Many TV stations, newspapers and magazines were taken over by foreign owners like Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation, which publishes the most prominent financial Russian newspaper “Vedomosti” together with the “Financial Times”, and the largest advertising company News Outdoor Group, which is active in approximately 100 cities in Russia. The Bertelsmann Inc., which owns the largest European television program RTL, operates the country-wide program Ren TV.24 The Bertelsmann Foundation, founded in 1977 by Reinhard Mohn and now one of the most powerful think tanks in the European Union, co-operates with the Moscow-based Gorbachev Foundation, which also maintains branches in Germany and in the USA.
During the Yeltsin era, the media were almost completely in the hands of the new oligarchy, which was closely connected with the western financial centers. Gusinsky possessed the largest television station NTW, and Boris Beresovsky controlled the newspapers. When Putin began to re-stabilize the Russian state, the most urgent task was to regain control of the media, because otherwise the government would have been toppled.
Last not least, it is the everyday culture that has to be considered because with its rock concerts, the internet, private television programs, cinema palaces, discos, music CD, DVDs, comics, advertisements and fashion it is almost the same as in the West.
The aim of the American strategy is the transfer of the western system of values onto the Russian society. The Russian state is to be de-ideologized. In the 1993 constitution the national ideology was disavowed as characteristic of totalitarianism and prohibited in article 13.25
The official Soviet ideology was based on a materialistic philosophy, but it also included elements of a national idea and was the brace that held the state together. The state was deprived of its value orientations and the national idea by this prohibition. The mental vacuity has been filled by western popular culture .
The cultural offensive of the USA aims at establishing a multicultural, i.e. cosmopolitan, pluralistic and secular society in Russia, in which the uniform Russian national culture is dissolved. The people, i.e. the community of citizens with their common history and culture, are to be converted into a multinational population.
17 March 2015 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Western organizations for cultural influence in Russia
In the perestroika era the lodges and their run-up organizations were permitted again.13 On Kissinger’s request, Gorbachev permitted the establishment of the B’nai B’rith lodge in Moscow in May 1989. Since that time about 500 lodges have been founded in Russia by the Grand Lodges of England, France, America, etc. At the same time more open organizations, clubs, committees and foundations were established for politicians, businessmen and members of the professions that had no relation to the rituals, but shared the principles of the lodges. There are several thousand members of Masonic lodges in Russia who participate in the rituals, but in addition there are ten times as many members of the “maçonnerie blanche” (white masonry), who take no part in rites but accept the principles and are led by Masonic brethren. Such organizations are the Magisterium club, the Rotary Club, Lions Club, the Soros Foundation, etc. Their members consider themselves to be the elite with special rights to govern.14
The Russian PEN Centre, another front organization, was founded to control the literary scene. Its members have included well-known writers and poets like Bella Achmadulina, Anatoly Pristavkin, Evgeny Yevtushenko, Vasily Aksyonov and Viktor Erofe’ev.
The foundation Open Society, founded in Moscow as early as 1988 by George Soros, was the most powerful mechanism of destabilization and destruction in the hands of the people in the background in the 1990s. Soros directed his activities towards changing people’s worldview to the neo-liberal spirit, enforcing the American way of life and training young Russians in the United States. The Soros Foundation supplied the funds to finance the major Russian periodicals and to award special awards for the promotion of literature.15
Within the framework of his program, the foundation published text books in which Russian history was presented in the neoliberal, cosmopolitan sense. In September 1993, while the parliament was shot at, I had the opportunity to participate in a prize awarding ceremony in the Russian Ministry of Education. George Soros handed over the prizes to the authors of Russian text books for history and literature, and the Russian Secretary of Education Evgeny Tkachenko explained, what the goal of the new school books was: “It is about destroying the Russian mentality.”
Soros’ programs in the cultural sector were so various that practically the entire non-governmental sector depended on being sponsored by the Open Society. The Institute for Human Sciences (IWM), founded in Vienna in 1983 and likewise supported by Soros promoted the reform of the educational system and the universities in Russia and the post-socialist countries. Between 1997 and 2000 alone, the foundation granted 22,000 scholarships worth 125 million Dollar.16
A further American think tank is the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), founded in 1982 by Reagan, which for its part finances institutes of the American Democratic and Republican Parties and their offices in Moscow. Above all, it supports private media and pro-western political parties and movements. The budget of the NED is decided upon by the US Congress as a support for the State Department. Prominent politicians like John Negroponte, Otto Reich, Elliot Abrams are members of the executive committee. The NED is the continuation of CIA operations with other means. Among other things the NED financed the following Russian organizations (2005): The association Memorial for historic education and the protection of the human rights, the Muscovite Helsinki Group, the Sakharov Museum, Mothers of Chechnya for Peace, the Society for Russian-Chechnian Friendship, the Chechnian National Rescue Committee (altogether 45 organizations in one year).17
The Muscovite Carnegie Center was established in 1993 as a department of the Carnegie Foundation for International Peace, founded in 1910 by Andrew Carnegie as an independent research center for international relations. The experts at the Muscovites center are concerned with the most important issues of Russian domestic and foreign policy. There is a collection of information on the problematic points of the country’s development. The center publishes anthologies, monographs, periodicals and reference books as well as a quarterly magazine “pro et versus”, the series of “Working Papers” and it regularly holds lectures and conferences. The foundation is financed by large companies such as BP, General Motors, Ford, Mott as well as by Soros, Rockefeller, the Pentagon, the State Department and the British State Department. So far, it has been headed by Rose Goettemoeller, former employee of the Rand Corporation, who is now deputy Secretary of State.
The representatives of the Russian commercial world in the supervisory board are Pjotr Aven, Sergei Karaganov, Boris Nemzov, Grigory Yavlinsky and Yevgeny Yasin, the president of the Muscovite School of Economics. Prominent staff members are Dmitry Trenin, who also works for Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty, and Lilya Chevzova, who are both regularly invited to the West in order to tell the people there that Russia limits democratic freedoms. The center’s research is extensively used by the Russian political class and also by the West. The work of the Muscovite center is supported by the headquarters in Washington via a “Russia and Eurasia Program” (REP).18
The foundation Freedom House, founded in 1941 on the initiative of Eleanor Roosevelt, emerged from the struggle against isolationism in the USA. Its official aim was the fight against National Socialism and Communism; today it is financed by Soros and the U.S. government. In the 1990s Freedom House established offices in nearly all CIS states and founded the American Committee for Peace in Chechnya (members: Z. Brzezinski, Alexander Haig, James Woolsey – former CIA boss). The most well-known project today is “Freedom in the World”, which has been analyzing all the states in the world annually since 1972 and divides them into “free”, “partially free” and “un-free” states.19
In 1992, the Russian branch of the Rockefeller Foundation called Planned Parenthood Federation was founded in Moscow and in 52 further Russian cities. The foundation attempted to introduce the subject “Sex Education” in all Russian schools, a subject which was actually intended to destroy the family and reeducate the people towards the ideal of a new human being. This project was not successful, because officials of the Ministry of Education, teachers, parents and the Orthodox Church resisted; the project was rejected at a conference of the Russian Academy for Teacher Training in 1997.20
In the West, the non-governmental organizations (NGOs) are regarded as components of the civil society. In the case of Russia they do not have anything to do with the structure of direct democracy, but they are agencies financed and steered by the West.
In the perestroika era the lodges and their run-up organizations were permitted again.13 On Kissinger’s request, Gorbachev permitted the establishment of the B’nai B’rith lodge in Moscow in May 1989. Since that time about 500 lodges have been founded in Russia by the Grand Lodges of England, France, America, etc. At the same time more open organizations, clubs, committees and foundations were established for politicians, businessmen and members of the professions that had no relation to the rituals, but shared the principles of the lodges. There are several thousand members of Masonic lodges in Russia who participate in the rituals, but in addition there are ten times as many members of the “maçonnerie blanche” (white masonry), who take no part in rites but accept the principles and are led by Masonic brethren. Such organizations are the Magisterium club, the Rotary Club, Lions Club, the Soros Foundation, etc. Their members consider themselves to be the elite with special rights to govern.14
The Russian PEN Centre, another front organization, was founded to control the literary scene. Its members have included well-known writers and poets like Bella Achmadulina, Anatoly Pristavkin, Evgeny Yevtushenko, Vasily Aksyonov and Viktor Erofe’ev.
The foundation Open Society, founded in Moscow as early as 1988 by George Soros, was the most powerful mechanism of destabilization and destruction in the hands of the people in the background in the 1990s. Soros directed his activities towards changing people’s worldview to the neo-liberal spirit, enforcing the American way of life and training young Russians in the United States. The Soros Foundation supplied the funds to finance the major Russian periodicals and to award special awards for the promotion of literature.15
Within the framework of his program, the foundation published text books in which Russian history was presented in the neoliberal, cosmopolitan sense. In September 1993, while the parliament was shot at, I had the opportunity to participate in a prize awarding ceremony in the Russian Ministry of Education. George Soros handed over the prizes to the authors of Russian text books for history and literature, and the Russian Secretary of Education Evgeny Tkachenko explained, what the goal of the new school books was: “It is about destroying the Russian mentality.”
Soros’ programs in the cultural sector were so various that practically the entire non-governmental sector depended on being sponsored by the Open Society. The Institute for Human Sciences (IWM), founded in Vienna in 1983 and likewise supported by Soros promoted the reform of the educational system and the universities in Russia and the post-socialist countries. Between 1997 and 2000 alone, the foundation granted 22,000 scholarships worth 125 million Dollar.16
A further American think tank is the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), founded in 1982 by Reagan, which for its part finances institutes of the American Democratic and Republican Parties and their offices in Moscow. Above all, it supports private media and pro-western political parties and movements. The budget of the NED is decided upon by the US Congress as a support for the State Department. Prominent politicians like John Negroponte, Otto Reich, Elliot Abrams are members of the executive committee. The NED is the continuation of CIA operations with other means. Among other things the NED financed the following Russian organizations (2005): The association Memorial for historic education and the protection of the human rights, the Muscovite Helsinki Group, the Sakharov Museum, Mothers of Chechnya for Peace, the Society for Russian-Chechnian Friendship, the Chechnian National Rescue Committee (altogether 45 organizations in one year).17
The Muscovite Carnegie Center was established in 1993 as a department of the Carnegie Foundation for International Peace, founded in 1910 by Andrew Carnegie as an independent research center for international relations. The experts at the Muscovites center are concerned with the most important issues of Russian domestic and foreign policy. There is a collection of information on the problematic points of the country’s development. The center publishes anthologies, monographs, periodicals and reference books as well as a quarterly magazine “pro et versus”, the series of “Working Papers” and it regularly holds lectures and conferences. The foundation is financed by large companies such as BP, General Motors, Ford, Mott as well as by Soros, Rockefeller, the Pentagon, the State Department and the British State Department. So far, it has been headed by Rose Goettemoeller, former employee of the Rand Corporation, who is now deputy Secretary of State.
The representatives of the Russian commercial world in the supervisory board are Pjotr Aven, Sergei Karaganov, Boris Nemzov, Grigory Yavlinsky and Yevgeny Yasin, the president of the Muscovite School of Economics. Prominent staff members are Dmitry Trenin, who also works for Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty, and Lilya Chevzova, who are both regularly invited to the West in order to tell the people there that Russia limits democratic freedoms. The center’s research is extensively used by the Russian political class and also by the West. The work of the Muscovite center is supported by the headquarters in Washington via a “Russia and Eurasia Program” (REP).18
The foundation Freedom House, founded in 1941 on the initiative of Eleanor Roosevelt, emerged from the struggle against isolationism in the USA. Its official aim was the fight against National Socialism and Communism; today it is financed by Soros and the U.S. government. In the 1990s Freedom House established offices in nearly all CIS states and founded the American Committee for Peace in Chechnya (members: Z. Brzezinski, Alexander Haig, James Woolsey – former CIA boss). The most well-known project today is “Freedom in the World”, which has been analyzing all the states in the world annually since 1972 and divides them into “free”, “partially free” and “un-free” states.19
In 1992, the Russian branch of the Rockefeller Foundation called Planned Parenthood Federation was founded in Moscow and in 52 further Russian cities. The foundation attempted to introduce the subject “Sex Education” in all Russian schools, a subject which was actually intended to destroy the family and reeducate the people towards the ideal of a new human being. This project was not successful, because officials of the Ministry of Education, teachers, parents and the Orthodox Church resisted; the project was rejected at a conference of the Russian Academy for Teacher Training in 1997.20
In the West, the non-governmental organizations (NGOs) are regarded as components of the civil society. In the case of Russia they do not have anything to do with the structure of direct democracy, but they are agencies financed and steered by the West.
17 March 2015 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
First successful application of the new strategy:
the Perestroika
For the first time these new methods were used as a strategy in the “Perestroika”, when Mikhail Gorbachev came to power. The Perestroika had its positive aspects; it re-established the freedoms of opinion and of movement, but it was also a substantial instrument of influence of the West.11 Within the Central Committee, the CPSU and the nomenclature a group emerged, which shifted to the positions of the West and aimed at introducing the western neoliberal system.
The real architect of the Perestroika was Alexander Yakovlev, who had been the CPSU Central Committee’s secretary for ideology since 1985, and who had studied in Washington in the 1950s and had been a proponent of neo-liberalism since then, as he explained to me in a discussion in Vienna on 9 November 2004. People such as Yegor Gaidar, Grigory Jawlinsky, Boris Nemzow, Viktor Chernomyrdin, German Gref and Anatoly Chubays belonged to his network. With the help of these people, Yakovlev established the West’s fifth column in the USSR, which has been pulling the wires up to now. Boris Yeltsin was also a man of the Americans, who was recruited directly in the American Congress in September 1989 on the occasion of an invitation by the Esalen Institute in California, which had maintained an American-Soviet exchange program since 1979. With its help he could take over in 1991.12
By intervention of George Soros, Gorbachev was made a member of the Trilateral Commission, which held a conference in Moscow in January 1989, at which Henry Kissinger and Valéry Giscard D ’Estaing also participated.
the Perestroika
For the first time these new methods were used as a strategy in the “Perestroika”, when Mikhail Gorbachev came to power. The Perestroika had its positive aspects; it re-established the freedoms of opinion and of movement, but it was also a substantial instrument of influence of the West.11 Within the Central Committee, the CPSU and the nomenclature a group emerged, which shifted to the positions of the West and aimed at introducing the western neoliberal system.
The real architect of the Perestroika was Alexander Yakovlev, who had been the CPSU Central Committee’s secretary for ideology since 1985, and who had studied in Washington in the 1950s and had been a proponent of neo-liberalism since then, as he explained to me in a discussion in Vienna on 9 November 2004. People such as Yegor Gaidar, Grigory Jawlinsky, Boris Nemzow, Viktor Chernomyrdin, German Gref and Anatoly Chubays belonged to his network. With the help of these people, Yakovlev established the West’s fifth column in the USSR, which has been pulling the wires up to now. Boris Yeltsin was also a man of the Americans, who was recruited directly in the American Congress in September 1989 on the occasion of an invitation by the Esalen Institute in California, which had maintained an American-Soviet exchange program since 1979. With its help he could take over in 1991.12
By intervention of George Soros, Gorbachev was made a member of the Trilateral Commission, which held a conference in Moscow in January 1989, at which Henry Kissinger and Valéry Giscard D ’Estaing also participated.
17 March 2015 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Kas sa nüüd teed nalja v? Mis nägemused?
Ja muide kui keegi "savu" popsutaks, siis ta jah pärisemalt hakkab nägema mis toimub, savu peaks olema õigete kristlaste kasutuses kui elementaarte tööriist.
Kuid suurele osale inimestele need taimed veel pole nii suureks abiks kui pole Jumala abiga saanud, usaldatud Pühade Terav Paljaku taoliste taimede ja seente ligi, sest siis näed ja koged päriselt neid asju millest teised filosofeerivad ja luuletavad.
See on elementaarne, et vähegi pühad inimesed teavad neid asju ja nüüd on aeg ka see tava rahva juurde tuua, seni kuni veel loodust ja lootust on, tava rahva all ma mõtlen tava kirikute ees otsa koos kogudustega,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment
Ükski targem inimene kes on haritud kõrgema vaimumaailmade osas ei võta tõsiselt teoreetikuid kellel heal juhul aegajalt tuleb valgustus peale kus peale inimeste muude maailmade ja meie kasvatajatega kontakti saavad.
Kuid nad on nii tagasihoidlikud, armasavad, et nad seda naeru ei näita välja, sest teavad, et ega nad ise ei tea oma süüd..
Üks põhiline trall ongi selle pärast siin planeedil, et meie vangistaja soovib meid loodusest eraldada kuid ERITI nendest taimedest mis meile selgelt seda näitab mitme külje pealt koos õpetustega.
Kuid mitte sellest ei tahtnud ma rääkida, lihtsalt võtan isiklikult suts kui keegi targem inimene lubab endale sellist kommentaari millegi nii pühaliku ja olulise suhtes, jättes mulje vastupidise kui selle mille tegelikult päris usklikud peaksid jätma, taimedest mis inimesi jumala ligemale toovad ja mis just selleks siia loodud on (nende asjadega on raskem inimest jumalast eemale viia kui piibliga, kuigi pole võimatu kui ühtegi õiget hinge pole kes selgitaks miks ja mida nad teevad, et nad ainult neid taimi Jumalale ligemale saamiseks peavad kasutama, see elementaarne (lisaks muid tõid mida saad oma oskuste piires, ja oskuseid saad laiendada sest Su hinges on palju mida siin ei näidata. Ja ma tean kui radikaalne see tagasihoidlik sõnum mõne inimese programmis tundub, sh see sõna programm, ning ma ei peaks õige õpetuse kohaselt meelega tekitama neid tundeid, kuid tean, et mõned teist saavad aru ikka, kuna keegi teine neist asjadest ei räägi, siis räägin senikaua ise,
käsi silme ette pannes, ja teeseldes.. et pole.. seda liialt kaua tehtud))
Kuid jah... uuesti siis nende olendite ja oskuste juurde milledest juttu taolisel lehtedel, loomulikult enamusel neil pole lehti vaja.. kuid see õpetuseks meile ikka.
Selle kõige kohta peaks olema detailsed kirjeldused ju olemas mis on teada, Rooma kirikus ja muudes kohtades.
Tulnukaid muidugi mitmed inimesed keda isiklikult tean, ka isikus kohanud, eri suguseid, ühed veel tõid ta isa ka ja see tervitas ja hoiatas joomise kuid eriti suitsetamise eest.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment
17 March 2015 01:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
http://translate.google.com/ sinna lehe kopeerides siis linnu lennult enamvähem loetavaks teeb enamuse, saksa keelde tõlgib paremini.
Eesti keeles vast para foorumi taolistes kohtades on ka asju, kuid nende linkide puhul see, et nad ise Nende poolt kes ise Ütlevad, et on. Mitte, et räägivad kolmandas isikus.
Ja mõned lehed väga viisakad, ma juba selle järgi saan aru, et kui viisakas leht on 10-15 aastat olud netis, et siis mingi laste ja teismeliste projektidega ainult tegu pole (seda saab teatud kohtadest kontrollida kui kaua internetis on leht olnud)http://translate.google.com/
17 March 2015 00:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Pani mind imestama, üks verise suuga pop staar kutsus ohvreid (ja ta teised pildid ka viisakad ja psühhopaatilised olid, näitamaks, ikka veidrad suts, ..) ja siis sadades sadades naised ja tüdrukud avalikult kommenteerisid ja palusid, et ta ühendust võtaks ja hammustaks neid ja kõike muud..
nii veider veider.. kui isegi tegu ainult haige inimesega oli, siis tal lihtsalt oma voodi mis iganes mängudeks võimalik saada inimesi ja, , aga asi on ikka väga tume.
Muidu ise tähele pannud, et on nagu sinisemad ja punasemad vampiirid.. esimesed kuidagi heatahtlikumalt aristokraatlikud
teised rohkem oma võimuga rahul
nu ja siis päris kõhedaid reaalsusi ka olnud kuhu sai unes rännatud, kus näha oli, et neil hoopis oma füüsika ja hinge niitide korjamine on tavaline.. ja oma irariha.. igatahes jah, nende võõraste 50 000 kelle siia sisse pidime tooma ja igasuguse muu kolbaliseerumisega, mine tea kauaks püha maa siin ... või me lausa sellise muu vibratsiooniga, et siin teatud sugused ei talu olla, et meil oma soo kollid neile tuule ala teevad?
(ma muidu märganud küll kohtumis portaalides mingisuguseid väga veidraid veidrike, )17 March 2015 00:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Vaatasin jah, et päris populaarsed muus ilmas, kuid üle ameerika muidu juba:
(kogusin kokku linke oma varasemast otsingust, selle pärast palju)
Kuid pidage meeles, et mida loete tõmbate ka ligi, seega ole valmis mida ligi tõmbad, kuid enamus jutt siinsetel linkidel on viisakas ja pole hirmutav, lihtsalt näitamas kui avalik see kõik on
http://www.vampirewebsite.net/howknowifavampire.html
http://www.sanguinarius.org/ (vasak menüü)
http://realvampirenews.com/
http://www.vampirismforum.com/t378-the-real-but-forgotten-vampire-community (Ka tõsisem foorum, Merticus, VEWRS, AVEWRS mainivad)
http://www.atlantavampirealliance.com/educational.html
http://www.vampirehigh.org/Eygptian%20History%20and%20Vampires.html (et egiptlased vampiiri ühte kummardasid kes eksi kombel arvati olema tarkuse Jumal Thoth )
Lisaks veel:
http://sphynxcatvp.nocturna.org (15 aastat vana leht)
http://blackswanhaven.org/ (doonoritele ja sopradele)
http://www.suscitatio.com/research/definitions.html (veel erinevate tüüpide seletusi, osad vapiiride enda arvates liiga hippilikud)
lastele igast ohtlike asju ka kätte saadav nagu:
http://unexplained-mysteries.activeboard.com/t46499787/spells-to-become-vampire/ (vaata foorumi vestlust)
http://www.calastrology.com/vampire-spells.html (no nedest asjadest sutsu edasi aretades siis leiab päris tõsiseid asju, õpetusi, kuigi tundub, et nii avalikult ikka keegi ei müüks kuid kui te veel teaksite mida avalikult oskta saab sarnaste hindadega mis inimese päevapealt teiseks olendiks saab muuta, ilma pettuseta.. Nõidade loitsude ja maagia lehti ka sutsu kogusin, neid ikka väga palju ja proffesionaalseid)
Kuid vahest läbi selliste lehtede, ka kasulikudele lehtedele jõuab:
http://www.theenthusiasm.com/en/informatie/artikels/?article=35 (kirjeldus emotsiooni vampiiridest ja vabanemise õpetused, musta maagia diagnoosi õpetused ka endistelt maagidelt on netis saadaval, Kristlastena ka midagi peaksime kasulikku nende asjadega ette võtma, kuni veel aega on)http://www.vampirewebsite.net/howknowifavampire.html
17 March 2015 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on Levi Kivi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ja mürgitust ei saanud, mis jumala pakutud siis vastavalt olukorrale saab võtta vastu ka, kuid see ei tähenda, et ta siis oleks kuskil looma veristmaistega tegelenud.
Kalurid ka oma kasutult ametilt kutsus ta ära, hoopis paremate asjadega tegelema16 March 2015 23:45
Margus Meigo commented on Levi Kivi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ardi Tedrekin mingeid veiseid ja kalasi ja kanu ei söönud Jeesus, NALJA teed või, ise nii tark mees ja siis tuleb sellise asjaga lagedale.
Jeesus Nazaretist.. Naziir lausa räägiti ta kogukond..
Mett vast sõi (kuskil vist räägiti ka, et kala pold kala vaid mesi.. kuid see selleks, ma muide tean ka kuidas 5000 inimesel kellel kõht tühi on, teha sedasi peale lusikatäie teatud meega leivakoorui andmist neil on meel hea ja süüa ei soovita terve päeva, lihtsalt teatri mõttes kunagi kui selle piisukese võimalust saan, et see inimmass kokku organiseerida, siis teeme ära ka. Kuid ma päris algeline võlur selles maailmas siin, esimesed paar koda vast tuleb omamoodi välja.. kuid siis peaks stabiilselt toimima hakkama )16 March 2015 23:44
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Krumholts's post.
Group: Kristlased
Tegelikult peaks Sul ikka ka ilma kuulutamatta hea ja elu täis keha olema, siis pole veel täiuslikult Jumala armu enda sisse saanud, kui nagu orja tööl oled kuulutusega pidevalt : )
Vahest vaja mees võtta, minna metsa alla ja seal telgis kolm päeva järjest armatseda täis kirega nagu Eeva ja maasikaid korjata ning kuulata kuidas ööbik laulab16 March 2015 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Kristlased
See kas keegi kuskil kirjutab alla õhtul või hommikul on vähe vahet selle olulisuse osas, et kas anonüümsed välja mõeldud inimesed saavad hääletada või mitte16 March 2015 23:28
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Kristlased
Mis moodi nad ei läbinud siis?
E hääled ainuke õlekõrs mis meil vabaduseks jäänud on valimiste osas, kui neid õigesti kasutada.
Tilluke muudatus tuleb teha: hääled peavad olema avalikud, ka paber hääled.
Paber hääletust on kõige lihtsam kuidas iganes vaja sättida, sest pole mingit seost inimese ja hääle vahel, neid sedelikaste võib kes kui iganes palju leiutada.
Nii paber kui e hääled peaksid olema avalikud , kui käid paber hääletusel, siis oma ID numbri märgid ja ka kanditaadi nime kirjutad välja mitte ainult numbri. Sest numbreid on võimalik inimese pähe lihtsalt tekitada piisava mantraga ning muu tehnoloogiaga sedasi, et inimene ise arvab, et muud numbrit valis.
Käisin ise kehtetu dokumendiga hääletamas ja olin üllatunud kui lihtne ja labane on paber hääletus.
Kuhugi isegi ei pandud kirja, kuhu mu hääl läks.
See mille pärast e-häälte kallal noritakse, on see musta kasti süsteem mis loodi samade inimeste soovitusel kes soovivad paber hääletusi võltsimas hoida, kuid elektroonikaga võltsida pole niilihtne kui õigesti teha, sest õigesti vaatajad näevad maha jäänud jälgi.
Ja kui nii kõrgel on valed inimesed juba nii suures koostises, kes neid jälgi muuta saaks, siis pole suurt vahet enam nagunii mida inimesed hääletavad, sest siis juba riik kaotatud enamvähem.16 March 2015 23:26
Margus Meigo commented on Levi Kivi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Siin lihtne: Jessaja 66:3..
Tarkusesõnad 15:17, 23:19-20 ja Danieli 1:12-16 vast kah lisaks .
Kuid mida iganes ennast uskuma paneme, ikka meeles hoida, et me sisemuses, algselt taime toidulised oleme ja ainult siis saame areneda kõrgemale kui uuesti olema hakkame nagu oleme loodud.
Igasuguseid vabandusi siin tuua, enda patu elus hoidmiseks mida meelega tänapäeva mass tööstusega peale saadetakse Sulle, kus ohverdatakse sadu miljoneid loomi iga aasta.. see organiseeritud veretöö on kõigi kätel kes poest ostavad seda surnute liha16 March 2015 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
so lets agree Oxygen, that is thing enought unless You really spiritual.
Question answered! Next one
(okey, i know.. some meditative people etc.. will come and say they can.. and there is a way.. but hey, )
Question answered! Next one
(okey, i know.. some meditative people etc.. will come and say they can.. and there is a way.. but hey, )
16 March 2015 22:44
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
Air then
/(well.. some might say its not a thing as ell)
/(well.. some might say its not a thing as ell)
16 March 2015 22:43
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
food is not a thing for me...
but eating by it self might be a thing. Its a activity...
Things are something that does not a live
but eating by it self might be a thing. Its a activity...
Things are something that does not a live
16 March 2015 22:42
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
well, shered a lot but what was the benafit for this..
16 March 2015 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
Computer is a thing i guess
16 March 2015 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
oh sorry, a thing,
umm, .. this is a hard one.. a THing.... (food is not a thing, its a live)
umm, .. this is a hard one.. a THing.... (food is not a thing, its a live)
16 March 2015 22:39
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
Women
16 March 2015 22:38
Margus Meigo commented on Ivari Padar's photo.
Ole tubli Ivar, teine 50 veel ees
16 March 2015 22:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ei tundu
16 March 2015 19:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"When reflecting on the actions of today's "river-rerouting" father figures, who are destroying our sacred national treasures up hill and down with the haste of an invading army, you involuntarily turn to this experience: it would not be a bad idea for them to know that not everything is forgiven at the time of death"
OKey maybe not so positive
OKey maybe not so positive
16 March 2015 18:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kui Jumal kartma hakkab siis on olukord väga ohtlik
16 March 2015 17:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
One only attacks in fear even if that is deluted in to satisfaction of winning pleasure
16 March 2015 17:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
16 March 2015 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sa ei hirmuta mind sest armastan sind
16 March 2015 17:04
Margus Meigo commented on Gert Trash Moser's photo.
Kuulan http://muusika24.ee/Muusika/album/S%C3%BCgishitt-2002
Leidsin ühe kasseti mis vanast DaiChi makist leidsin.
Imelik, pole vist enamusi neist lauludest kuulnud, siiani.
... kuigi kvaliteet on nagu on kuid kuidagi ON teine feeling kassetiga noh, ... umbes nagu vast LSD ja Seente vahe (mäletan üks USA vana kuulus tuuma füüsikust hippi ütles mulle, et üks on steriliseeritud palat ja teine on mets, miskit sellist.)
Kasseti osas ehamatas päris ära kui Oksmaa rääkima järsku hakkas, tehti ikka muusikat.. järgmine laul ka, ... huumori soont ikka oli. Omapärast.
Kas analoog vs. digi osas tead paremat, radikaalsemat seletust kui siin:
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/understanding-digital-sound-and-analog-sound.html ..see peaaegu kuid mitte päris see.
Leidsin ühe kasseti mis vanast DaiChi makist leidsin.
Imelik, pole vist enamusi neist lauludest kuulnud, siiani.
... kuigi kvaliteet on nagu on kuid kuidagi ON teine feeling kassetiga noh, ... umbes nagu vast LSD ja Seente vahe (mäletan üks USA vana kuulus tuuma füüsikust hippi ütles mulle, et üks on steriliseeritud palat ja teine on mets, miskit sellist.)
Kasseti osas ehamatas päris ära kui Oksmaa rääkima järsku hakkas, tehti ikka muusikat.. järgmine laul ka, ... huumori soont ikka oli. Omapärast.
Kas analoog vs. digi osas tead paremat, radikaalsemat seletust kui siin:
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/understanding-digital-sound-and-analog-sound.html ..see peaaegu kuid mitte päris see.
http://muusika24.ee/Muusika/album/S%C3%BCgishitt-2002
16 March 2015 15:46
Margus Meigo commented on Liam Hewitt's post.
Group: Reformed Druids in Australia & New Zealand
But i know, this idea is like tring to tell a muslim they worship a rock or some christians about how god did not pray to god..
or did he ... then there must be some She..16 March 2015 04:54
Margus Meigo commented on Liam Hewitt's post.
Group: Reformed Druids in Australia & New Zealand
Actually, i am getting more and more sure on it, that Fire is not one of the main elements at all actually,
this is human element for metal that most of the nature and animals and plants do not use. They use Sun, but thats not a fire
I think this is one of the great tricks we are pulled in ... earth, water, air... wind, plants or stone
there must be something, i think fire is from another dimension and can live of and be only if water allows and when he can kill something off, not a greation, creative force for life rally.
Most life is born around 10 to 30c16 March 2015 04:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
Arthur Charles Melhuish thats was good one, he got kind of nerves up after yo uexplain him he is blocking rather something, (Y)
Nice one, short, effective , polite, proper16 March 2015 03:39
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Jane Hudson's photo.
Be aware of five stars,
they got this penagram flowing in them often.. gotta free them all : )
they got this penagram flowing in them often.. gotta free them all : )
16 March 2015 03:11
Margus Meigo commented on Indigo Bailey's photo.
if they would only know how much is in hes packet by now before paying for maches
16 March 2015 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on Indigo Bailey's photo.
Hahaha Good one (Y)
16 March 2015 03:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it."
16 March 2015 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
""The main problem I have with it is that as true as some of the expressed sentiments may be, who really gives a shit? Certainly not me. I figured out years ago that the human species is totally fucked and has been for a long time. I also know that the sick, media-consumer culture in America continues to make this so-called problem worse. But the trick, folks, is not to give a fuck. Like me. I really don't care. I stopped worrying about all this temporal bullshit a long time ago. It's meaningless. (See the preface of "Braindroppings.")
Another problem I have with "Paradox" is that the ideas are all expressed in a sort of pseudo-spiritual, New-Age-y, "Gee-whiz-can't-we-do-better-than-this" tone of voice. It's not only bad prose and poetry, it's weak philosophy. I hope I never sound like that."
about:
"The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings, but shorter tempers; wider freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less; we buy more, but enjoy it less. We have bigger houses and smaller families; more conveniences, but less time; We have more degrees, but less sense; more knowledge, but less judgment; more experts, but more problems; more medicine, but less wellness. We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry too quickly, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too seldom, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom. We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often. We've learned how to make a living, but not a life; we've added years to life, not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet the new neighbor. We've conquered outer space, but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things. We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We've split the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information to produce more copies than ever, but have less communication. These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion; tall men, and short character; steep profits, and shallow relationships. These are the times of world peace, but domestic warfare; more leisure, but less fun; more kinds of food, but less nutrition. These are days of two incomes, but more divorce; of fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throw-away morality, one-night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the show window and nothing in the stockroom; a time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit delete. "
http://www.georgecarlin.net/boguslist.html#paradox
Another problem I have with "Paradox" is that the ideas are all expressed in a sort of pseudo-spiritual, New-Age-y, "Gee-whiz-can't-we-do-better-than-this" tone of voice. It's not only bad prose and poetry, it's weak philosophy. I hope I never sound like that."
about:
"The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings, but shorter tempers; wider freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less; we buy more, but enjoy it less. We have bigger houses and smaller families; more conveniences, but less time; We have more degrees, but less sense; more knowledge, but less judgment; more experts, but more problems; more medicine, but less wellness. We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry too quickly, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too seldom, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom. We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often. We've learned how to make a living, but not a life; we've added years to life, not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet the new neighbor. We've conquered outer space, but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things. We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We've split the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information to produce more copies than ever, but have less communication. These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion; tall men, and short character; steep profits, and shallow relationships. These are the times of world peace, but domestic warfare; more leisure, but less fun; more kinds of food, but less nutrition. These are days of two incomes, but more divorce; of fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throw-away morality, one-night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the show window and nothing in the stockroom; a time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit delete. "
http://www.georgecarlin.net/boguslist.html#paradox
http://www.georgecarlin.net/boguslist.html#paradox
16 March 2015 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
Group: Kristlased
Sumerite üks aja ühik on 144000 päeva ehk 396 aastat,
seega täitsa võimalik, et et sellest tulnud.
Kuigi piibel on tõde tuleb uut testamenti sutsu lisa maiguga võtta, sest see ikka Roomlaste käe all vaimis saanud... (kes jumala vastased)
vana testament aga Jumala enda inimeste poolt16 March 2015 01:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
:)15 March 2015 21:23
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kaks käsku on tegelikult aint
Õigemini on üks käsk: Armasta15 March 2015 21:22
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ja oluline veel aru saada, et Jeesus pole Jumal
ja jumal pole jeesus
kuid Jeesus on Jumala omand ja Jumal saab olla jeesuses mis iganes pidi Jumal soovib
ja kas te arvate, et kõik need muud identsed lood ülestõusudest ja tarkadest, on väljamõeldud muudes kultuurides?15 March 2015 21:12
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
Group: Kristlased
sega isegi see kas ta oli ristil või mitte on VÄGA teisejärguline ja EBAOLULINE võrreldes sellega mida ja kuidas me siin maal käituma peame. (kuigi see risti asi ei olnud ainult maine tegevus ja ühes maailmas korraga)
Tulge selgusele, ega Jumal mingi veidrikust ampelmann pole, ta täiesti normaalne ja praktiline meie aga siin oma suure ajuga loome endale niipalju lisa vaeva juurde15 March 2015 21:08
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
Group: Kristlased
Marko Seitse need igasugused kolm päeva siin ja seal on täeisti ebaoluline reaalses maailmas kus aeg on muudetav,
Inimene saab ühe tunni sees veeta 30+ aastat kui soovib mujal maailmas, ja mitmes maailmas, .. ja saada mis iganes õpetusi ja teha paljusi asju
See on lihtne ja selge fakt mis on tõestatav teile endile kes julgevad.
Meil ei tasu jääda kinni igasugusesse pudi-padisse kes kui mitu päeva kuidas oli ja kas keha on siin või ei, see täiesti ebaoluline tegelikult selleks, et aru saada mida me siin maal tegema peame ja kuidas.
Kui meil seda vaja teada on siis saame teada.
Keha on oluline kingitus meile ja seda peame hoidma, austama ja veelgi enam teiste keha.
Kehale anna ja tee neid asju mis kehale kasulik ja keha sees on ka aju ja need asjad .. kelle eest läbi keha hoolitsed, et õpiksid algseid asju uuesti austama,15 March 2015 21:06
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kas inimeses on vaimne osa, mis jääb pärast keha surma elama?
Hes. 18:4: „Hing, kes teeb pattu, peab surema!” (PR, RS, NE, KJ ja Dy annavad kõik heebreakeelse sõna ne′feš selles salmis edasi sõnaga „hing”, öeldes sellega, et see, mis sureb, on hing. Mõned tõlked, mis muudes kirjakohtades on sõna ne′feš tõlkinud sõnaga „hing”, kasutavad selles salmis sõna „inimene” või „see”. Ne′feš ehk hing on seega isik, mitte aga inimese mittemateriaalne osa, mis jääb elama, kui tema keha sureb.) (Täiendavaid üksikasju vaata peateema „Hing” alt.)
Laul 146:4: „Kui tema vaim väljub, siis ta pöördub tagasi oma mulda; samal päeval kaovad tema kõrged mõtted!” (Heebreakeelne sõna, mis on siin tõlgitud sõnaga „vaim”, on tuletis sõnast ru′aḥ. Mõned tõlkijad annavad selle edasi sõnaga „hingeõhk”. Kui see ru′aḥ ehk aktiivne elujõud kehast lahkub, siis kaovad inimese mõtted; ta ei mõtle edasi kusagil teises maailmas.)
Kog. 3:19—21, SP: „Mida juhtub inimeselastele, seda juhtub ka lojustele, — neile juhtub sama; nagu üks sureb, nõnda sureb ka teine, ja üks vaim on kõigil, ja inimesel ei ole ülemat asja [„paremust”, EP] kui lojusel; sest kõik on aur. Kõik läheb ühte paika: kõik on põrmust, ja kõik pöörab tagasi põrmu. Kes tunneb ära inimeselaste vaimu, kas ta läheb üles, ja lojuste vaimu, kas ta läheb alaspidi, maa alla?” (Aadamalt päritud patu ja surma pärast kõik inimesed surevad ja lähevad tagasi põrmu, nagu lähevad loomad. Aga kas igal inimesel on vaim, mis pärast seda, kui see on lakanud kehas funktsioneerimast, elab intelligentse isiksusena edasi? Ei ole; 19. salm vastab, et inimestel ja loomadel on „üks vaim”. Ainult inimeste tähelepanekutele toetudes ei suuda keegi anda autoriteetset vastust küsimusele, mis on 21. salmis vaimu kohta esitatud. Kuid Jumala Sõna vastab, et inimesed ei ole sündides saanud midagi, mis annaks neile surres loomade ees paremuse. Siiski on tänu Jumala halastavale korraldusele, mille ta on teinud Kristuse kaudu, antud usku ülesnäitavatele inimestele, aga mitte loomadele, igavese elu väljavaade. Suuremale osale inimkonnast saab see võimalikuks tänu surnuist ülesäratamisele, kui Jumalalt tulev aktiivne elujõud nad uuesti ellu toob.)
Luuka 23:46: „Jeesus kisendas suure häälega ning ütles: ’Isa, sinu kätte ma annan oma vaimu [kreeka keeles pneu′ma′]!’ Ja kui ta seda oli öelnud, heitis ta hinge.” (Pane tähele, et Jeesus heitis hinge ehk suri. Kui tema vaim välja läks, ei läinud Jeesus taevasse. Jeesus äratati surnuist üles alles kolmandal päeval pärast surma. Apostlite teod 1:3, 9 näitab, et taevasse läks ta 40 päeva hiljem. Kuidas siis mõista seda, mida Jeesus surres ütles? Ta ütles sellega, et ta teab, et surma korral sõltub tema lootus taas ellu ärgata täielikult Jumalast. Lisamaterjali selle kohta, mida tähendab ütlus „vaim läheb Jumala juurde”, vaata lk. 82 peateema „Hing” alt.)
Meie healt sõbralt:
http://wol.jw.org/et/wol/d/r37/lp-st/1101989271?q=vaim&p=par
Palju muud kah15 March 2015 20:52
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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Juutide arvates, on taevas teise järguline,
elu tuleb siin ja praegu korda ja jumala kartlikuks teha
ning kui on teavas peale selle mida ise endale siin maal jumalaga teeme
siis see tuleb mis tulema peab ja mis on nagunii,
kuid pole mõtet ette mõelda asjadest mida e itea
(ja siinne kõige oluline untsu jätta, maine praktiline töö on kõige meelepärasem jumala silmis, mis maakrea hüvanguks tehakse, olgu see kasvõi teise aitamine heast südamest )15 March 2015 20:30
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
Group: Kristlased
KUi tei lselge arusaam on, et kas See taevas on nagu teine planeet, või selles hõljutakse või mõngitaxe xBoxi päev otsa süüakse krõpsu ja lauldakse nii kui kaua süda lustib kogu aja... siis oleks ka lihtsam aru saada, kes kuidas mille üle vaidelb15 March 2015 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
Group: Kristlased
okey, vist mitte, : )15 March 2015 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
Group: Kristlased
ja siis ehitas ihu juurde15 March 2015 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
Group: Kristlased
Aga tegigi ju algselt vist eks ?15 March 2015 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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@Ardi TUlnukad
Ezekiel
Volke päris suure kirjaga peaks varsti riigi asutuste ja usu asutuste ette tulema.
Ja tegelikult ega me siis ei tea kus mis ihud kuidas võetakse, maailm ju muu füüsikaga muude olendite jaoks, meie maailma sees saab olla veel omakorda suuremad maailmad kui need mida me teame. Ning nende arv omakorda, väga suur.
Seega kui me vaatame, et keegi ihuga kuskile viidi ja mis iganes.. mis me teame , kellele mis moodi mida näidati ja miks15 March 2015 20:08
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's post.
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Ta "ei ilmu taevapiirile" kuskile, ta pideval siin ja praegu olnud.
See lootus, et praegu võib lulli lüüa ja kuskile kaugel asuva jumala suunas palvetada kes siis kunagi peaks kplla tulema meile.. sellest vaja edasi areneda elementaarsesse Juudi aru saama, kus Jumal on pidevalt siin, praegu
olemas ja kõike nad teavad, näevad ja meeles peavad.
Mida vaja (noh, eks sa ise ka ikka, enda vaimu tarkuse kogumise eest pead vaeva nägema, sest ju Sa sellega jätkad mida siit kogud.. millest ei huvitu.. sellest Su maailm vast ka puhas ja puudulik siis hiljem ja saad endale sellise paradiisi mille endale loosid võttes kõik muud hüved ära, see on võimalik neil teha sedasi, lihtsalt, ... kellega tahavad, teevad.
Põlevaid tulesi ja pikka piina pole vaja juurde tekitada... kuigi eks ka kõik see olemas neile kellele vaja.
Olen ise mõnda node maailma kohtadest näpuga maitsnud.. tule ja tühjuse osas, ning teistsuguste aegade osas seega siin ei ole mingit kahtlust, et Neil kõik võimalik mida vajalikuks peavad ja maailmade laius mis juba olemas on mõõtmatu,
vampiiridel isegi oma maailmad koos oma teenrite ja valitsusriikidega ning hinge püüdmistega ... elades HOOPIS muu dimensioonilises maailmas, mitte külmas kirstus mille sümboolikast me vist ei adu )15 March 2015 20:03
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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Sellest pimedast arusaamast, nagu nõiad, šamaanid ja muude looduse vöi vaimu oskustega oleks kuidagi eelkõige Jumala vastased tuleb kiiresti välja areneda kui päriselt armastusse jõuda soovite.
Kui muud ei oska ega ei tea nende asjade osas, sest ei julge või ei soovi õppida siis arvesta lihtsalt, et need on Jumala tööriistad mida osad keda manipuleeritud kasutavad valesti
(eelkõige, sest osades kirikutes valed inimesed kes Usust väär arusama loonud kui loodus tarkade vastased, mille kaudu saab vaimu oskustega inimesi nende endi vastu suunata)
osad omakorda on aga paad kes siis lisaks ise õpivad neid tumedaid kuntste ja see ju selge, et kui kõikidest maagiatest ja kunstidest, keegi meelega rüvedamate vaimudega ühendust võtab ja mitte node puhastamiseks või õpetamiseks vaid teenimiseks kellegi vastu, siis sellel palk käes15 March 2015 19:56
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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Oleneb kuidas ja millisest nõidusest Sa aru saad ning mis meeltes ja kuidas kasutad.
Kindlasti suurem osa nõidasi on Jumala teadlikusel ligemal kui rutiinseid inimesi kes " tööl " käivad kirikus15 March 2015 19:50
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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Jumal keelab asju tegemast eesmärkidel muul kui tema teenimisel.
(ja teda teenides, tehes mida iganes teed peaksid need asjad olema kooskõlas põhi käskudega. Ehk isegi kui tegeled nõidusega siis see peab olema armastuse ja heatahtlikuse sooviga täidetud alandlikuse ja austusega Jumala Loomingu suhtes.
Võlukunst ja muu alkeemia on tavapärased oskused mis Jumalakartlike kasutuses, nagu ka vanasti oleks internetis suhtlus olnud maagia (mis ta muidu on ka..) kuid nüüd enamus ei tunne ennast eriti häiritud sellest )
Kirikus on täiesti tavaline arusaam, teistele loitsu sõnade peale panemine, kõrgemas sfääris, seda lihtsalt ei sõnastata tava keeles sedasi,
mis see palvegi su arust siis on15 March 2015 19:42
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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@Taimi,
a liha süüakse ka edasi, arusaamata, et piibel selgelt väljendab, et taimi sööma peaksime ja liha meele raskeks teeb nagu alkohol
ja neil pole teava asja kes liha söömisestaadiumis veel on
mis te arvate, miks ta nii spetsiifiliselt välja toonud tihti on kes mida söönud ja sõi... et siis ikka maamehe tarkusega näha kes rääkijatest ja olijatest millises vaimu staadiumis oli.
Arvestades, et Jeesuse võõrasisa oli vast Nazariit ja Samuel andis ka sõna, et isegi viinamarja ei söö... siis kogu raamatu peale kokku on mõned mehed, kes õiged on.15 March 2015 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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Siin veel sarnaseid Jumala Ingli pilte: http://goo.gl/s4Tc9phttp://goo.gl/s4Tc9p
15 March 2015 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
Group: Kristlased
Eha: ega täis suuga ei olegi viisakas rääkida ega muule mõelda kui toidule
viisakas laps15 March 2015 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Jutt käib siin Jumala Ülistus muusikast kui Sa ka märkasid,
ja jumal laulude kaudu suhtleb meelsasti, sest just see on üks põhilisi suhtlus vahendeid,
ega nad siis aruta ja jaura igavalt ja kuivalt, vaid ikka pakivad suuri tähendusi otse linnulennult
Kuid ikkagi, mille osas seline kommentaar?15 March 2015 19:17
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's post.
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Ja ja mille kohta see käis Tia,
ja eks näljane ikka näe igal teise suus leiba..
Kuid mille osas selline kommentaar Tiiu?15 March 2015 19:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Kuid kuidas kohe meie oma keeles, otse ilma prantsuse ja ladina keeleta, me asjast õige sõnaga rääkida teadsime, ning sõnaks panna MeeleLahutus ?
Ja seda on paljude sünadega Eesti keeles. Kus nagu otse räägitakse millega tegu. Kas olete märganud, ja ka pühakiri palju selgem sedasi kus palju õiget keelt kasutatud.15 March 2015 19:12
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
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Lev Mõškin See tundub tõsine töö ja oluline lisa olema.
"Piiblilugejale on teksti mõistmisel abiks umbes 4000 allmärkust («Võib tõlkida ka», «Teine võimalik tähendus», «Sõna-sõnalt» või tähendus ja taustinfo). Paarsada lehekülge on taustmaterjali tõlkimise põhimõtete, piibliaja geograafia, mõõtühikute jm kohta (lk 5–40, 1658–1763 ja B1–B15). Iga lehekülje keskel on veerg ristviidetega, mida on ligi 60 000."
Mul kõige sellega kunagi veel oma plaanid, selles osas, et hästi oluline oleks kasutada vanu tarku Eesti sõnu, päris tähendusega sõnu kuid pole eriti palju inimesi alles jäänud Eestis kes päris keele tähendust teaks, selle maagilisi omadusi.
Mulle öeldi, et ainult üks on järgi jäänud... kuidloodan, et see on liialdus.
Seda tööd tehes, oleks vaja veel korra täis suurnõukoguga teha, kellel on teadlik avalik arusaam ja taust mida nad arvavad ja teavad erinevate usu sektide, rooma plaanide ja esoteeriliste teadmiste kohta ning siis selle koosmõjul teha õige Eesti Eestlastele suunatud piibli põhine õpik millest omakorda tõlkides muud keeled saaksid väärtust.
Tuleb ka arvestada, et keeled on laiali paisatud, seega erinevate lausete süva tähendused on erinevates keeltes kuid need on osad nii elementaarsed ja osad nii individuaalsed või hooti õigetes meeltes olles märgatavad, et seda kõike kokku ühel maal ei kogu. Sest pole nii loodutki.
On midagi mille nimel inimesed üle maa kokku tulevad ja see midagi saab olema piibel, meie ajal kui me soovime.
Uue maailma tõlked ja üllesse ehitused on ühed parimad mida siiani näinud olen kuigi, kõige parem versioon on Hoopis Eestis Soome Piibliseltsi 80ndate tõlkest mida tean. (tume siniste kaantega ja ripatsiga)
Siis veel on mul siin üks, millel on 140 lehekülge lisa materjali, mis õpetab kuidas piiblit lugeda ja millest mis peatükk on, see ka kasulik.
See väga tundeline teema, kuid üks olulisemaid lisasi on ristviited, ilma milleta ei peaks enam tänapäeval piiblit välja isegi andma.
Ning kui nimi on muudetud ära ning pole sõna "Jehoova" sees, siis ka sutsu kahtlane, mida veel muudetud on ja miks, kelle poolt.
Kuigi, suures plaanis tarkus tuleb nagunii jumalalt ja päris ära rikutud piiblit ma siiani veel pole kunagi kohanud, kasu on alati suurem kui millise iganes teise targema raamatu oma15 March 2015 18:26
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Malle ja kiriku suuremad asjad ongi ju õpetused.. mida ei teata või aru saada veel ja siis tunduvad salajased.
"esoteeria on koondnimetus salapärastele või salajastele õpetustele, teadmistele ja oskustele"
Kuidas inimeste psühholoogiat juhtida ja emotsioone või tundeid kontrollida, olid ka kord sala-teadus, nüüd kasutavad neid müügimehed ja teevad avalike koolitusi sellel alal. Noh, sest nad samm midagi veel sügavamat ise avastanud.. ja ka sarnaseid palveid kasutavad muus suunas.
Kas see, et ennast häälestama hakata otse Jumala riigiga suhtlemiseks, tundub vast veider, ja pealiskaudne kergeusklikus, kuid ju sellega ikka seotud midagi vajalikku, nagu meelde tuletus ise endale ja loodusele, et oled omadega kohal.
Need "para jurdad" ka väga soovitavad asjad millega ennast kursis hoida millega rahvas ennast kursis hoiab, sellised musta maagia detailsed raamatud koos nimistu väga võimsate olenditega keda endasse või esile kutsuda saab on internetist saadaval muu pealiskaudse sarnase rämpsu keskelt.
Nõia loitsud ja sektide rituaalid nende rituaalideks, kuid ikka päris tõsised asjad on väga avalikult saadaval, osad käru keeraiseks, osad püüniseks, osad aitamiseks näitamaks mille osas ennast kaitsta same ja kuidas.15 March 2015 17:44
Margus Meigo commented on Tiiu Kirsimägi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Jumalik armastuse kirjeldus naiselt mehe suunas, õpetus mehele
ja jumala väljendus inimese suunas
"Unconditionally"
Oh no, did I get too close?
Oh, did I almost see what's really on the inside?
All your insecurities
All the dirty laundry
Never made me blink one time
Unconditional, unconditionally
I will love you unconditionally
There is no fear now
Let go and just be free
I will love you unconditionally
Come just as you are to me
Don't need apologies
Know that you are worthy
I'll take your bad days with your good
Walk through the storm I would
I do it all because I love you, I love you
Unconditional, unconditionally
I will love you unconditionally
There is no fear now
Let go and just be free
I will love you unconditionally
So open up your heart and just let it begin
Open up your heart and just let it begin
Open up your heart and just let it begin
Open up your heart
Acceptance is the key to be
To be truly free
Will you do the same for me?
Unconditional, unconditionally
I will love you unconditionally
And there is no fear now
Let go and just be free
'Cause I will love you unconditionally (oh yeah)
I will love you (unconditionally)
I will love you
I will love you unconditionally
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjwZAa2EjKA
Just nii, Jumal laulabki ka, meile
ja just nii purunematuks armastus teeb väed
kui sellest videost näed
(auto kokkupõrge, videos)
Kõik muu mis videos arusaamatum, ära sellele liialt keskendu, ainult heale, ja et tüdruk on kristliku taustaga ja kannab ka videos meelega kristliku kõrvarõngaid suurelt
+ põlev abielu voodi, õunad ja palju muu.. kuid las see jääda.. keskendu ainult sõnadele esialgu ja mõtle, kas Jumal saab Sulle nii laulda... kui saab, siis on hea laulhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjwZAa2EjKA
15 March 2015 17:28
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ja hea oleks, kui ise usud ka Inglisse, ja tema maailmadesse ning, et nad teavad kuidasja millal Sind aidata just nii vähe kui vaja, et ise areneda ja õppida saaksid.
Mõned vuristavad neid ridu nagu loteriid, et "ehk millekski ikka kasulik"
Kuijuta ette, kui ise ingel oleksid ja siis Sind sedasi inimese poolt kasutatakse muuseas.
Kuid nad nagu hooldekodu töötajad, ju nad harjunud
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Inimmeeli, asjade üle arutades15 March 2015 17:15
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Endiselt arutate selle arulageda küsimuse üle või?
See on rõve küsimus mis tegelikult peaks olema kelatud, sest liialt ebatark.
Ütleks, et lausa kuri, kuid kuna Sinuga viisakalt suhelnud Meelis, siis vabandame Su välja, ja ütleme, et lihtsalt "Ääretult ebatark, küsimus".
Kuidas sobiks kui keegi küsiks sarnast asja emaarmastuse, õunte, kuupaiste ja muu hea suhtes?
Või kui keegi küsib ning jaurab pikalt lapse kuuldes "kas porgandi söömine tekitab halbu unenägusi" - see kuidagi ei tee lapsele head.
Või kui telekas ketratakse, "kas kõik homod on saatanast" - kuidas Sa ennast tunneksid?
Kui vastus oleks nende poolt "no vaba meedia, lihtsalt arutame, et teada saada.."
Miks Sa ei küsi, kas Käsk tekitab headust? Oleks ka retooriline küsimus kuid vähemalt hea ja tarkuse suunaline.15 March 2015 17:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
My self still have hopes, that vatican really.. thanks to God power.. and our Visdom..will become what they should
even thought it is a Roman
even thought it is a Roman
15 March 2015 05:24
Margus Meigo commented on Maris Lakk's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kuid Selle sama raamatu järgi, mis iganes pidi seda üritati sobilikult kirja panna, me KÕIKI võtame arvele, keel ja kultuur on piisavalt arenenud ja pääsu pole, ning kõik seadused ja organisatsioonid mis on tehtud lammutuseks või vangistuseks, kasutame just selleks mida Jumalale vaja.
Naised saavad naiselikumaks kui kunagi varem ja mehed mehisemaks kui Tõll.
Kuid kilgata ka ei tasu, arvutit vaja kasutada seni kuni võimalus seda kõike vabalt rääkida on, ega nad siis keegi ei istu käed ristis... nad ju kardavad, et nendega kõike seda tehakse mida nad teistele plaaninud seega iga tarkusega misveel jäätud on ja raamatu trikiga, üritatakse
ning nähes mis siin ajaloos tehtud on ning teades asja suurust, võib täitsa kõike oodata.. seega tasub stabiilselt, rahulikult, pidevalt arendada selles suunas, et kõige osas saab inimestel selgeks mis on hea ja mis on parem.
Muusikast kunstini (Tartu viimane kunsti ülliits tuli meelde..) ning ka kuidas oma meel karastatuks teha, et provokatsioonidele mitte alluda,
praeguse tunde järgi võib öelda, et vähemalt pooled pahade pool on Jumala enda töölised kelle peale pahad loodavad kuid kes tegelikult teevad ainult nii vähe kui ivaja, juba selle pärast pole lootust võita kellelgi muul kui heal,
kuid kunagi polegi küsimus kas tuleb võit vaid kui ideaalselt inimesed ise, suudavad oma Maal, oma Jumalal selle võid siin saavutada, sest tegu ju ei ole ainult Greeka-Rooma meestega kes siiani sala kambris asju ajavad... siin inimeste sees mitut pidi käiakse ja mine tea mis me silme all tegelikult toimib, Jumalale tänu, et pimedad oleme... muidu me ei julgeks isegi loota enam..
Ma suts unine ka.. seda teksti unejutuks kirjutan.. ja see "pool pahadest head" noh.. see vähemalt nii, kuid see ühe veidra vaatluse põhjal selgeks sai, nad omakorda testivad häid ka.. tulles isegi ähvardades sind mängult kuni piirini nähes kuidas Sa reageerid.. päris paha ikka tunned ära, kes lisaks pahale ka vastik ja jäle on, mitte lihtsalt tapu võimeline.
Minu jaoks üldse, nii skisofreene tundub, et kuidas saab terve inimese peas üldse Juudi vastalisus olla, teades kust piibel tuli, eriti see Vana testamendi osa, kus kõik selgitatud ja kuni viimase lauseni kõik kirjas saamaks aru mida tegema peame.
Lisaks loodusele,
Lapsed ja Vanemad peame kokku saama.15 March 2015 05:02
Margus Meigo commented on Maris Lakk's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ja kas juudid ikka ise sinna piiblisse nii agaralt kirjutasid, et Jumal nende peale tige on.. vot see ka asi mida uurida tasub.. või pandi see Rooma ajall kirja...
Igatahes, pikkkuid väärt lugemine, kuigi asi on palju palju hullem annab see ikkagi soenduseks ülevaate.
Äitah Maris Lakk15 March 2015 04:49
Margus Meigo commented on Fiona Carbis's post.
looking back and think that is okey.. can You imagine people in past looking in to future and telling to people "You know, some day we start to poison our food"
everyone would think guy tripped out to much
everyone would think guy tripped out to much
15 March 2015 04:27
Margus Meigo commented on Nur Natasya's photo.
This looks really nice !
But it is silly, that these days women have electronics in their hand and communicate with virtual instead being master of present time.
Women with a smart phone looks a bit like helpless
But still, clothing is looking great desing, really great
But it is silly, that these days women have electronics in their hand and communicate with virtual instead being master of present time.
Women with a smart phone looks a bit like helpless
But still, clothing is looking great desing, really great
15 March 2015 03:26
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's link.
Senikaua kui liha järada, ei ole võimalik kõrgemalt areneda ja see keerab käru kogu ülejäänud süsteemile, see arusaam, et "minu elu ja ise tean mis teen" see egostlik, ülbe ja tobulik.
Eks mine areta ja kasvata ise siis kuskil ktsi ja küsi šamanistlikult, kas nad tahavad ka, et Sa ta varsti juppideks lõikaks.
Suurem osa liha järajaid ma usun, ei ole ise suutelised noorel vasikal isegi pussnoaga kõri läbi lõikama kui ta rabeledes pääseda proovib,
kuid kui keegi mõrva Su eest ära teeb siis on mõnus matsutada küll vaimu kolle kes Su sees.
Need kes ise teise elu võtmisega hakkama saavad, ja oleks seda nõus tegema, nendele võib veel andeks anda seni kuni suurem osa niisama matsutab ja taldrikuid tellib endal või Rakvere viinereid käib ostmas, nii nunnud põske panna.
Eks mine areta ja kasvata ise siis kuskil ktsi ja küsi šamanistlikult, kas nad tahavad ka, et Sa ta varsti juppideks lõikaks.
Suurem osa liha järajaid ma usun, ei ole ise suutelised noorel vasikal isegi pussnoaga kõri läbi lõikama kui ta rabeledes pääseda proovib,
kuid kui keegi mõrva Su eest ära teeb siis on mõnus matsutada küll vaimu kolle kes Su sees.
Need kes ise teise elu võtmisega hakkama saavad, ja oleks seda nõus tegema, nendele võib veel andeks anda seni kuni suurem osa niisama matsutab ja taldrikuid tellib endal või Rakvere viinereid käib ostmas, nii nunnud põske panna.
15 March 2015 01:48
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's link.
Liha söömine on sõltuvus haigus, häire millest tuleb üle saada. Seda kui üldse vaja siis maagia tegemiseks kuid sellega, SELLISE maagiaga, enamus vaevalt, et meist tegeleb, või tegeleda soovib
15 March 2015 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's link.
Miks ta ei peaks rääkima kui ta teab, et nagu "tean kus on miinid maetud, aga ei ütle, mine kõnni ise ja saa teada" camoon nagu.
Ja pealgi, ui Sa ei räägi, siis võidki jääda ise ka uskuma elu lõpuni, nagu teaksid.
Ja pealgi, ui Sa ei räägi, siis võidki jääda ise ka uskuma elu lõpuni, nagu teaksid.
15 March 2015 01:43
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
Ju nad midagi head teevad, kasvatavad indigo lapsi uue õhu kaudu või eemaldavad ebavajalikke vaimumaailmasi
eks huvitavaid tõestusi tuleb kui vaja
eks huvitavaid tõestusi tuleb kui vaja
15 March 2015 01:36
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
Päris ulme list,
see ka imelik, nagu nii palju tõde siis ei viitsigi lugema hakata :D
see ka imelik, nagu nii palju tõde siis ei viitsigi lugema hakata :D
15 March 2015 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
kui tahate peaaegu naljakalt mehelt väga paha moraaliga standuppi näha selle teema kohta siis yt bige "stand up deer"
15 March 2015 01:31
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
(ja pole sinu otsustada mis minu otsustada on...)
(tegelikult on)
(tegelikult on)
15 March 2015 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
Katta, Sul on õigus
Aga minu otsustada on küll
Aga minu otsustada on küll
15 March 2015 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's link.
and where was this blessing in disquise.
Weery male brain made analyzis, nothing new from there : )
And these indigo children should get some proper parenting, and they must turn to start to love their parents or the chinese children will just thinking them out of excistance throught a wall
whata mess comment, but still, expression some sort about a dissapoitment, of some sort
Weery male brain made analyzis, nothing new from there : )
And these indigo children should get some proper parenting, and they must turn to start to love their parents or the chinese children will just thinking them out of excistance throught a wall
whata mess comment, but still, expression some sort about a dissapoitment, of some sort
15 March 2015 01:26
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's link.
and do anything and be Anywhere (you know, litteraly) "...but has troubles to keep up with scedules"
What scedule in universes? yeah, maybe the ones that square minds made up as they can not go anywhere so no one should.
You know, you can go anywhere, be anything, do anything.. but You got a be on a Kiosk 6:30 in morning,
its important
get your act togheder Women!
What scedule in universes? yeah, maybe the ones that square minds made up as they can not go anywhere so no one should.
You know, you can go anywhere, be anything, do anything.. but You got a be on a Kiosk 6:30 in morning,
its important
get your act togheder Women!
15 March 2015 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's link.
Siit on selgelt näha kui retarded on mehe liikumis suund ja kui palju lühem ja effektiivsem naise oma. (kui CM mõõta kasvõi)
Kuid ta järgmises lõigus paneb selle kõlama, nagu "Naine armsake käib pikemat teed pidi sest see nunnum.." kui reaalsuses, selle skeemi puhul, mees sirgjoones tormab pidevalt täiesti huupi ja päris elus ka, saab oma sihi paika ainult tänu sellele kes teab kuhu minna vaja on, kaare kraad on algusest peale õige suunaline kuid sirgjoones minnes ja keerates on suht loterii, kui sihile pärale jõuab
Ja ikka suts Greeka-Roomalik see vuristamine tal kohe alguses suure valega hakkama.. et mis moodi on loov jõud sama võrdne mis sirgjoones liikuv ja fokuseeriv
niih, kuulan edasi
Kuid ta järgmises lõigus paneb selle kõlama, nagu "Naine armsake käib pikemat teed pidi sest see nunnum.." kui reaalsuses, selle skeemi puhul, mees sirgjoones tormab pidevalt täiesti huupi ja päris elus ka, saab oma sihi paika ainult tänu sellele kes teab kuhu minna vaja on, kaare kraad on algusest peale õige suunaline kuid sirgjoones minnes ja keerates on suht loterii, kui sihile pärale jõuab
Ja ikka suts Greeka-Roomalik see vuristamine tal kohe alguses suure valega hakkama.. et mis moodi on loov jõud sama võrdne mis sirgjoones liikuv ja fokuseeriv
niih, kuulan edasi
15 March 2015 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's link.
Marju mis mõttes, et kui joon sidruni vett, siis see ei mõjugi happeliselt maole?
Hmm what kind of soucery is that
Hmm what kind of soucery is that
15 March 2015 00:57
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
newer thought you was
15 March 2015 00:52
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
Nu jah, mehel peaasi on, et seisab
siis nägu rahul
nagu oleks..
siis nägu rahul
nagu oleks..
15 March 2015 00:48
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
i know, all these poor nodles there, in sleeping bags right ?
15 March 2015 00:47
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
even from New York
15 March 2015 00:46
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
ega tunda
15 March 2015 00:44
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
Irw, jah ikka mõõgaga pähe ja kaikaga sarvede vahele pahadele, eriti kui ette kirjutatud on kes on siis pole vaja ise mõelda
15 March 2015 00:44
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
that was an complimento Dear
15 March 2015 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
haha, sa ei väsi õpetamast,
i like
i like
15 March 2015 00:13
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
Sinu võit,
nagu alati
nagu alati
15 March 2015 00:11
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
Armas Sinust nii öelda
15 March 2015 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
HIng liialt palju ... mis me sellest teame..
aga me vist ikka Vaim olendid inimkehas eks ?
Sest vaata on ju igast hingetuid ja hinge püüdjaid... ja siia tullakse hinge (Naist) saama.. seega ju siin ikka on võimalus jah, et saab jääda hingest ilma ja vaime kõike pole mõtet ju jätta.. mis neist ikka kuhjad, jumala es on me vaimud võrdsed ja erinevate väärtustega, et vaadatakse võrdsel alusel kes on kasulikum praktiliselt
mis Sa pahast vaimust ikka säilitad nagu paha haisu kotis, ta ise ennast ju hoida ei oska14 March 2015 21:54
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ihu kaudu saab inimene oma hinge hukka lasta, selles mure ongi, et uue aja hippi protestandid ja isegi osad katoliiklased nüüd, arvavad, et pigem ikka ükskõik ,lasen lõdva randmega ja küll papa tuleb ja üllesse korjab, et annab ata ata vast uid noh, pole vahet, et ikka kõik alati elame igavesti ...
jah, see "Hing" vast ei hävi siis , kuid see Vaim kes selles hinges.. kellele anti see võim seda keha ja hinge tarvitada... tema alles jätmise põhjus on küll väike, milleks
kui ta nii lõdva randmega eeldab, ülbelt, et midagi juhtuda ei saa?14 March 2015 21:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
OKey this is the one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E69lY0klkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E69lY0klkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E69lY0klkY
14 March 2015 17:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and a bit to (still not the ONE video am looking for but will come..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iwmkeWB8Ps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iwmkeWB8Ps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iwmkeWB8Ps
14 March 2015 17:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
..anda bit to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G91892EuhyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G91892EuhyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G91892EuhyU
14 March 2015 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But Why they not thinking anything new out..
after looking a bit about ISIS and Al-Queda in Twitter...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPKjH45o0kQ
https://twitter.com/hashtag/Al-Qaeda?src=hash
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ISIS?src=hash
after looking a bit about ISIS and Al-Queda in Twitter...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPKjH45o0kQ
https://twitter.com/hashtag/Al-Qaeda?src=hash
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ISIS?src=hash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPKjH45o0kQ
14 March 2015 17:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellowship_of_Isis ("The ecumenical nature of this nonprofit organization reveals itself in a membership that includes Protestants, Catholics, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Shintoists, Cabalists, Spiritualists, and Wiccan and pagan worshippers of all kinds. Over 24,000 members in nearly a hundred countries. Members often blend their own traditions and beliefs with those offered by the Fellowship")
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellowship_of_Isis
14 March 2015 16:48
Margus Meigo commented on Professional Bakist's link.
Sounds great, Thanks ngoc
14 March 2015 14:57
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
See on tõiesti arulage, et nii paljude aluspõhjaliste küsimuste osas on inimestel endiselt eriarusaamad peale 2000 aastat.
Siin küll pole maal veel Jeesusel asja sest mingi lamba karja keskele tulla kes veel lambamad on kui vanasti ja augvamalt vastu oma inimesi arvavad tal pole vaja tulla, point oli ikka, et maakera juba oleks valmis elementaarseks, kuid seni kuni algse arusaamagi põhjal ei osata omavahel rahu luua siis pigem on piitsa veel juurde vaja.
Mis moodi peaks piibel ennast tõestama (või inimene teisele inimesele piiblit tõestama pigem), kui midagi nii Suurt ja hoomamatut kui on ilmselgelt näha, et SUUREM osa väliselt on suures segaduses kes on kokku puutunud Kristluse ja Islamiga, eriti aga on palju erinevaid arusaame ja sekte kristluse hulgas, kümnetes tuhandetes.
Täiesti arulage ja ajab karva turri. Mis totrustega me tegeleme ja kui kaua veel? Allume mingi lambi riigi ja suvalistele seadustele mis pole isegi Pühakirja põhjal paika pandud sest KARDAME vangi minna ? MIks Sa arvad, et Su teenistus just vangis ei peaks edasi kestma, see oleks ideaalne põhjus vangi minekuks, usu pärast.
Kuid suurem osa käitub sedasi kummardavalt nende suunas kellel on raha ja relvad selle asemel, et NEILE selgitada, kuidas elu ja maailm on..
HAA aga ei saa ju.. sest ise ka pole päris kindel... eriti kui keegi avalikult arutlema hakkab.
Ilma igasuguse probleemida päris usline peaks saama 10 000inimest vastu võtta kui ta killukestki piiblist teab, see lihtsalt killukese põhjal ja kes päriselt aru saab ja teab, siis ta ei peaks 90% ajast teenima raha taga olevaid olevusi ja siis aegajalt sutsu, või niipalju kui süsteem lubab, vabast ajast ka Päris asjaga tegeleda..
ahh.. see teema.. kes on suurim vaenlane..
See kes on Looduse vastane (ja siis uurige nüüd, kes oma tegudes, uskudes, sõndes ja söögis käitub selliselt, et Loodus on teise järguline elementaarne endast mõistetav resurss lihtsalt... ja kutsuge nad korrale)14 March 2015 14:37
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Mida te jurate ja lärmate siin ?13 March 2015 20:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
Tühjas majas elab sõber, kes sai ära unsutatud.
Hingeviljad elupuudelt kõik said alla raputatud.
Kirstust leitud pildil minust noorem paistab vanaisa,
unustatud ajas tammub tamme otsas tema.
Hingeojas voolavad unistused,
kaitseingel on kasteses maas,
Paljajalu jookseb ta läbi rahe,
kuni tiivad ta kasvatab taas.
Valges kleidis tantsib vana naine oma mälestustes,
oma voodis nutab igal õhtul hingeõhu ära.
Lapsepõlvesõber, kes on ammu surnud ütles talle,
tule siia elusuuruses saad janu kustutada.
REF: Karge meele igavene sära tema unistustele võib juua anda,
ühel öösel ununägudesse eksis ära ta ei jõudnud enam randa.
REF: Karge meele igavene sära tema unistustele võib juua anda,
ühel öösel ununägudesse eksis ära ta ei jõudnud enam randa...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4GrrVeFcxQ
Tühjas majas elab sõber, kes sai ära unsutatud.
Hingeviljad elupuudelt kõik said alla raputatud.
Kirstust leitud pildil minust noorem paistab vanaisa,
unustatud ajas tammub tamme otsas tema.
Hingeojas voolavad unistused,
kaitseingel on kasteses maas,
Paljajalu jookseb ta läbi rahe,
kuni tiivad ta kasvatab taas.
Valges kleidis tantsib vana naine oma mälestustes,
oma voodis nutab igal õhtul hingeõhu ära.
Lapsepõlvesõber, kes on ammu surnud ütles talle,
tule siia elusuuruses saad janu kustutada.
REF: Karge meele igavene sära tema unistustele võib juua anda,
ühel öösel ununägudesse eksis ära ta ei jõudnud enam randa.
REF: Karge meele igavene sära tema unistustele võib juua anda,
ühel öösel ununägudesse eksis ära ta ei jõudnud enam randa...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4GrrVeFcxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4GrrVeFcxQ
13 March 2015 20:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
See maailm, mis elab sinus, mis sinuga ühte loodi,
on sama vana kui sina ja veidi su enda moodi.
See maailm sind peab kandma ja sina pead kandma maailma.
Ta on nii soe ja pehme, tal on kaks niisket silma.
Kaks niisket lapsesilma, mis võtavad sinult rahu.
Sa tunned, et kunagi enam sa oma maailma ei mahu
ja maailm enam ei mahu su sülle sooja ja varju.
Nii see ikka on olnud, miks sa siis ikka ei harju?
Ja maailm enam ei mahu su sülle sooja ja varju.
Nii see ikka on olnud, miks sa siis ikka ei harju,
et kõike ei saagi anda, et kõike ei saagi võtta,
et vabadus on ja valu, mis tuleb sul endal kanda.
Kõike ei saagi võtta, et kõike ei saagi anda,
et vabadus on ja valu, mis tuleb sul endal kanda.
See maailm, mis elab sinus, mis sinuga ühte loodi,
on sama vana kui sina ja veidi su enda moodi.
See maailm, mis elab sinus, mis sinuga ühte loodi,
on sama vana kui sina ja veidi su enda moodi.
See maailm sind peab kandma ja sina pead kandma maailma.
Ta on nii soe ja pehma, tal on kaks niisket silma.
See maailm, mis elab minus, mis minuga ühte loodi,
on sama vana kui mina ja veidi mu enda moodi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=471EX3SGvp8
See maailm, mis elab sinus, mis sinuga ühte loodi,
on sama vana kui sina ja veidi su enda moodi.
See maailm sind peab kandma ja sina pead kandma maailma.
Ta on nii soe ja pehme, tal on kaks niisket silma.
Kaks niisket lapsesilma, mis võtavad sinult rahu.
Sa tunned, et kunagi enam sa oma maailma ei mahu
ja maailm enam ei mahu su sülle sooja ja varju.
Nii see ikka on olnud, miks sa siis ikka ei harju?
Ja maailm enam ei mahu su sülle sooja ja varju.
Nii see ikka on olnud, miks sa siis ikka ei harju,
et kõike ei saagi anda, et kõike ei saagi võtta,
et vabadus on ja valu, mis tuleb sul endal kanda.
Kõike ei saagi võtta, et kõike ei saagi anda,
et vabadus on ja valu, mis tuleb sul endal kanda.
See maailm, mis elab sinus, mis sinuga ühte loodi,
on sama vana kui sina ja veidi su enda moodi.
See maailm, mis elab sinus, mis sinuga ühte loodi,
on sama vana kui sina ja veidi su enda moodi.
See maailm sind peab kandma ja sina pead kandma maailma.
Ta on nii soe ja pehma, tal on kaks niisket silma.
See maailm, mis elab minus, mis minuga ühte loodi,
on sama vana kui mina ja veidi mu enda moodi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=471EX3SGvp8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=471EX3SGvp8
13 March 2015 20:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. ja..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xnxBSonWSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xnxBSonWSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xnxBSonWSw
13 March 2015 17:36
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Armastus tekitab Käsu13 March 2015 13:18
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Käsk tekitab armastust13 March 2015 13:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Igasugune riigi ja parteide vastalisuse kampaania muutub juba rutiinseks. Midagi uut me siin ju välja pole pakkunud ja korrastanud, et mida siis teeme ja kuidas?
Muidugi see Foorum siin sedasi ülesse ka ehitatud, et praktilisi jutuajamisi ei oleks võimalik tekitada pikas plaanis.
Kuid eks seda ka muudame, facebooki ehituses
Muidugi see Foorum siin sedasi ülesse ka ehitatud, et praktilisi jutuajamisi ei oleks võimalik tekitada pikas plaanis.
Kuid eks seda ka muudame, facebooki ehituses
13 March 2015 13:16
Margus Meigo commented on Urmas Künstler's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Selles Gruppis: www.facebook.com/groups/equality.ee Üks tegelane ÕIGUSTAB selle uudise juures, et siin ikka süü pole tõestatud.. NAGU MIS? ?
Kujuta ette, kamp pätte tahavad suruda oma räpase riista su põlvili oleva nutva tütre suhu (sest see oleks juhunud kui ta poleks saanud ära joosta tänu imele, fakt 100% ) ...
hakatakse arutama, et.. ma ei mõista... mõistan, aga ei mõista..
ja siis seda vaadatakse nagu "Noh aga päriselt ju ei juhtunud, seega pole vahet"
Selle loo peab raudslet panema listi. Et sellega tegeleda, nii leida üles need tegelased kui selgitus kirju kirjutada kohtunikudele, et kas nad said aru millise psühholoogilise signaali nad sellistele kampadele saatsid..13 March 2015 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on Gert Trash Moser's photo.
Ma mõelnud, et kassettid võivad teatud mõttes veel ainukesed helikandjad olla (vinüülid ka ) mida kõrgemas reaalsuses usaldada saab, et tuleb sedasi nagu vaja on...
(ükskord LSD asjades sobrades see asi tundus reaalne ja lisaks mingi tark vana eesti masooni moodi mees andis ka midagi sarnast muuseas teada... seega ehk.. mine tea mis elu väärtus Sul tegelikult on kui kunagi aru saadakse)
Omakorda veel lasta vastavalt korralikud koopiad ka teha igaksjuhuks.. laenutusteks vms, kuid eks Sul see asi kindlasti juba paika pandud.
Backup on ikka hea kui alati on . )
//et elektrone, elektri muusikat saab panna märkamatult teist moodi, kiiremini või välja vahetatud bittidega toimima kõrgtehnoloogiaga. Sama ka analoog ja digi TV jms asjade puhul.. kuid noh, see ulme valdkond
(ükskord LSD asjades sobrades see asi tundus reaalne ja lisaks mingi tark vana eesti masooni moodi mees andis ka midagi sarnast muuseas teada... seega ehk.. mine tea mis elu väärtus Sul tegelikult on kui kunagi aru saadakse)
Omakorda veel lasta vastavalt korralikud koopiad ka teha igaksjuhuks.. laenutusteks vms, kuid eks Sul see asi kindlasti juba paika pandud.
Backup on ikka hea kui alati on . )
//et elektrone, elektri muusikat saab panna märkamatult teist moodi, kiiremini või välja vahetatud bittidega toimima kõrgtehnoloogiaga. Sama ka analoog ja digi TV jms asjade puhul.. kuid noh, see ulme valdkond
12 March 2015 23:51
Margus Meigo commented on Gert Trash Moser's photo.
Ole ettevaatlik oma lubadustega... mapeaks oma õe vana eesti pop muusika kogu ülesse otsima Nacist howery coveri ja kuldse triioni, sajad sajad kassetid :D
12 March 2015 23:35
Margus Meigo commented on Gert Trash Moser's post.
Group: PUNK ROCK ESTONIA
Igaks juhuks saatsin kirja kah, saatsin su profiili, võtab ühendust ise ehk12 March 2015 23:33
Margus Meigo commented on Gert Trash Moser's post.
Group: PUNK ROCK ESTONIA
Nitroglütseriin..12 March 2015 23:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vivaldi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIGfO2Dgc9Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIGfO2Dgc9Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIGfO2Dgc9Y
12 March 2015 22:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Van Halen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV6SmY04WdE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV6SmY04WdE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV6SmY04WdE
12 March 2015 22:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nii hea, et võttis silma märjaks.
Tal tuubes palju veel https://www.youtube.com/user/malabar777
Tal tuubes palju veel https://www.youtube.com/user/malabar777
https://www.youtube.com/user/malabar777
12 March 2015 22:02
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
Wau, see kidra tüdruk on küll ikka timm,
kuid nagu.. ainult eraldi oleks ka hea kuulata, hetkeks tundus juba et kuskilt mujalt tuleb kidra
kuid nagu.. ainult eraldi oleks ka hea kuulata, hetkeks tundus juba et kuskilt mujalt tuleb kidra
12 March 2015 21:56
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
Selle sain eile, ka päris head: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152390919659490
12 March 2015 21:53
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Derkun's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Siis kui samasugused lipud sildiga Valgamaa ja Põltsamaa lehvima hakkavad, siis tasub juba muretseda12 March 2015 20:03
Margus Meigo commented on Annika Ant's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
ta iga mõne aja tagant sureb internetis ära uuesti
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2813028/pg1
http://www.vocativ.com/world/russia/is-putin-dead/
Kuid karust on asi kaugelhttp://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2813028/pg1
12 March 2015 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on Monika Helme's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Rait Kukk: saadetud juba.
Kuid jah, kõlab nagu pole päris ameeriklaste kirjutatud.
Vastama peaks, et "Thank You for compliment, rassism on väga hea, ja meie sõbrad juudid väga toetavad rassismi selle asemel, et rassi segunemise ja ringi magamisega tegeleda nagu seda Juutide vastane viisnurga süsteem promob kes läbi selle Juudi rahavast maakeralt juba üle 2000 aasta minema pühkida proovinud "
midagi taolist. muidugi korralikumas inglise keeles kui minu see lause siin kodukeeles.12 March 2015 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on Monika Helme's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Monika Helme: Kas saad kirja täis päise siia ka postitada.
Gemaili päisest vähe abi aga selle oma ka abiks vahest, mine "view source" maili menüüs, mis meili aadressile, programmile see kiri tuli ?12 March 2015 19:09
Margus Meigo commented on Urmas Künstler's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ja artikkel sedasi kirjutatud, "Kas seksuaalrünnaku ohvriks langenud alaealise õigused olid ikka kaitstud?"
KAS ON IKKA KAITSTUD?? Milline debiilne retooriline küsimus?? MIs nali see on, see kirjutaja tuleks ka vastutusele võtta. Ma nii marru sele peale läksin .. sõnad lõppesid otsa12 March 2015 18:48
Margus Meigo commented on Urmas Künstler's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Mats kas see link on PÄRIS uudis v? Miks Meedia need nimed on ära kaitsnud ??
"Kohus otsustas 14- kuni 17-aastaste poiste sõnadele tuginedes, et poisse ei ajendanud mitte soov saada seksuaalset naudingut, vaid soov anda tüdrukule sõna „ime” kasutamise eest õppetund. Poisse vastutusele ei võetud. Kas seksuaalrünnaku ohvriks langenud alaealise õigused olid ikka kaitstud?"
Tüdrukut kambas sõna otseses mõttes hoiti kinni, ja taheti karjuvale tüdrukule peenist suhu suruda, teda veel pekstes jalaga, et ta ära joosta ei saaks ning kus ta ime kombel pääses... ja siis pääsesid poisid süüdistuses... see ei saa olla võimalik???
Ja kurjategija nimed varjatud ?12 March 2015 18:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
worry about their petty millions
in every generation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3w1_E1V46M
Nerd rap infests your internet. You left a trap, but
it's empty.
MC Frontalot took a gape but the bait wasn't tempting,
ending up uncaged and at large
to talk smack at you through the networking appliance
that's in charge
of every drip of your attention.
Yo, when mine goes out I've got to log in just to
mention
my disappointment at the interruption of convenience.
I mean just: a lot left, but none up in between this
couple of minutes here and a couple of minutes later.
It's an outrage, at the price I paid. These dictators
of my leisure rule with an iron fist.
Has anybody ever been so put upon as this?
Your GPS run out of battery (first world problem)
Got to wake up Saturday (first world problem)
You just delayed a honeymoon (first world problem)
Pledge season's coming soon (first world problem)
Half your friend list is spam accounts (first world
problem)
And your center channel speaker's out (first world
problem)
Muffy, my hair regrowth cream is mostly ineffective
and I'm struggling to keep this in perspective,
but I feel like a massive injustice occurred.
Says "regrows hair" on the tube (in the words)
in a third - or maybe a quarter - of all users.
I must have got swindled. Is it a fault? Of whose is?
Oooh, Muffy, Muffy, I had all the servants tortured.
Did you keep them on retainer? Do you got some more on
order?
'Cause I can't comb my hair on my own no more.
I got accustomed to the lifestyle, sniffed upon the
spore
and it molded up my innards, made the blood turn blue.
Muffy, Muffy, there's a revolution; what we're gonna
do?
Misplaced the Ambien (first world problem)
Left a participle dangling (first world problem)
You're scheduling your root canal (first world problem)
Your grad schooling had no rationale (first world
problem)
You didn't like your appetizer (first world problem)
Your yacht got capsized (a first world problem)
Now while our capitalism is in a minor kerfuffle,
you have to hustle. Before the fates come, reshuffle.
Rustle up another couple grievances and air 'em.
You can laugh about it later (maybe needed while
despairing).
For the moment though, you ordered half caf, didn't get
it;
there was no TV set when you jetted; internet resetted
itself just as I was in the middle
of tournament play, and so I suffered from transmittal
interruption. Completely ruined my day.
MC Frontalot's a jackass, that's all I'm trying to say.
People buy CDs in these days of disaster,
so poor me: I have to be a professional rapper.
No bubbles in the soda cup (first world problem)
App crashed when you loaded up (first world problem)
Phone's OS is outta date (first world problem)
Colors won't calibrate (first world problem)
They never stock the snack you want (first world
problem)
Caught herpes from a celebutante (first world problem)
Got wallhacked in PVP (first world problem)
Oh no, HD-DVD (first world problem)
Pixels aren't perfect square (first world problem)
Your favorite rapper isn't debonair (first world
problem)
You own too many underwear (first world problem)
And you're not much of a millionaire (first world
problem)
(from: MC Frontalot Lyrics on http://Lyrics333.com/mc_frontalot_lyrics.html *)
in every generation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3w1_E1V46M
Nerd rap infests your internet. You left a trap, but
it's empty.
MC Frontalot took a gape but the bait wasn't tempting,
ending up uncaged and at large
to talk smack at you through the networking appliance
that's in charge
of every drip of your attention.
Yo, when mine goes out I've got to log in just to
mention
my disappointment at the interruption of convenience.
I mean just: a lot left, but none up in between this
couple of minutes here and a couple of minutes later.
It's an outrage, at the price I paid. These dictators
of my leisure rule with an iron fist.
Has anybody ever been so put upon as this?
Your GPS run out of battery (first world problem)
Got to wake up Saturday (first world problem)
You just delayed a honeymoon (first world problem)
Pledge season's coming soon (first world problem)
Half your friend list is spam accounts (first world
problem)
And your center channel speaker's out (first world
problem)
Muffy, my hair regrowth cream is mostly ineffective
and I'm struggling to keep this in perspective,
but I feel like a massive injustice occurred.
Says "regrows hair" on the tube (in the words)
in a third - or maybe a quarter - of all users.
I must have got swindled. Is it a fault? Of whose is?
Oooh, Muffy, Muffy, I had all the servants tortured.
Did you keep them on retainer? Do you got some more on
order?
'Cause I can't comb my hair on my own no more.
I got accustomed to the lifestyle, sniffed upon the
spore
and it molded up my innards, made the blood turn blue.
Muffy, Muffy, there's a revolution; what we're gonna
do?
Misplaced the Ambien (first world problem)
Left a participle dangling (first world problem)
You're scheduling your root canal (first world problem)
Your grad schooling had no rationale (first world
problem)
You didn't like your appetizer (first world problem)
Your yacht got capsized (a first world problem)
Now while our capitalism is in a minor kerfuffle,
you have to hustle. Before the fates come, reshuffle.
Rustle up another couple grievances and air 'em.
You can laugh about it later (maybe needed while
despairing).
For the moment though, you ordered half caf, didn't get
it;
there was no TV set when you jetted; internet resetted
itself just as I was in the middle
of tournament play, and so I suffered from transmittal
interruption. Completely ruined my day.
MC Frontalot's a jackass, that's all I'm trying to say.
People buy CDs in these days of disaster,
so poor me: I have to be a professional rapper.
No bubbles in the soda cup (first world problem)
App crashed when you loaded up (first world problem)
Phone's OS is outta date (first world problem)
Colors won't calibrate (first world problem)
They never stock the snack you want (first world
problem)
Caught herpes from a celebutante (first world problem)
Got wallhacked in PVP (first world problem)
Oh no, HD-DVD (first world problem)
Pixels aren't perfect square (first world problem)
Your favorite rapper isn't debonair (first world
problem)
You own too many underwear (first world problem)
And you're not much of a millionaire (first world
problem)
(from: MC Frontalot Lyrics on http://Lyrics333.com/mc_frontalot_lyrics.html *)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3w1_E1V46M
12 March 2015 17:31
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Lelov's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Vedas, et said, Mõtle mis muidu juhtunud oleks.. kes oleks saanud12 March 2015 05:10
Margus Meigo commented on Julie Aubier's link.
He always know : )
12 March 2015 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's link.
Not as bad as:
"Nikos Kotzias, the Greek foreign minister, also told a meeting of his EU colleagues that if Greece was forced out of the euro "there will be tens of millions of immigrants and thousands of jihadists”
EU is threaten by communist Greek-Roman mafia, on name of defense and foreign minister and "right wing" political heads, and what we do?
We keep them as a part of Euro Zone..
As a friend
"If Europe leaves us in the crisis, we will flood it with migrants, and it will be even worse for Berlin if in that wave of millions of economic migrants there will be some jihadists of the Islamic State too.”
like seriously.
How much more clear they can get, by promising to commit genetic genocide on who side they work.
But we in Europe keep doing collections from a countries 2-3 times poorer to pay to Greece money they demand (and promised NOT to pay back) ...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11459675/Greeces-defence-minister-threatens-to-send-migrants-including-jihadists-to-Western-Europe.html
any news about that in us?
"Nikos Kotzias, the Greek foreign minister, also told a meeting of his EU colleagues that if Greece was forced out of the euro "there will be tens of millions of immigrants and thousands of jihadists”
EU is threaten by communist Greek-Roman mafia, on name of defense and foreign minister and "right wing" political heads, and what we do?
We keep them as a part of Euro Zone..
As a friend
"If Europe leaves us in the crisis, we will flood it with migrants, and it will be even worse for Berlin if in that wave of millions of economic migrants there will be some jihadists of the Islamic State too.”
like seriously.
How much more clear they can get, by promising to commit genetic genocide on who side they work.
But we in Europe keep doing collections from a countries 2-3 times poorer to pay to Greece money they demand (and promised NOT to pay back) ...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11459675/Greeces-defence-minister-threatens-to-send-migrants-including-jihadists-to-Western-Europe.html
any news about that in us?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11459675/Greeces-defence-minister-threatens-to-send-migrants-including-jihadists-to-Western-Europe.html
12 March 2015 02:19
Margus Meigo commented on Andrej Podbevšek's link.
You live life as it should!
12 March 2015 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on Celebrate Kate's post.
How long in this world we give birth to people who commit them self like this.. have we really lost all possible means of parenthood and know little ways to protect us fromspiritual posessions that kae people act like that,
In Home or in Uniform another country for "freedoms" ... religios free world.. where we end up for being so far away from nature..
In Home or in Uniform another country for "freedoms" ... religios free world.. where we end up for being so far away from nature..
11 March 2015 22:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kahtlane oli see lugu algusest peale, kahtlane tegelt
11 March 2015 21:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
11 March 2015 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on George Shabad's post.
Kunagi lugesin sõna Delfi tähendust ühest vanast Akadeemia ajakirjast.. sõnastus pole meeles aga selgeks sai, et sellise nime ja haaranguga portaal on ülivõimsa olulisusega.
Raha on täitsa teisejärguline potentsiaali kõrval, kuigi ka ei saa välja jätta kogu selle asja kasulikust. Väga tark liigutus. Kui kaugesse tulevikku vaadata.
Raha on täitsa teisejärguline potentsiaali kõrval, kuigi ka ei saa välja jätta kogu selle asja kasulikust. Väga tark liigutus. Kui kaugesse tulevikku vaadata.
11 March 2015 20:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Nu jah, kuid panevad päris hästi, sest neil eelis, et ausa teavitamise kuvand enamuste vaatajate silmis. Lihvitakse kenasti sobivaid hääle juppe ja loogikaga ning reaalse maailmaga ei vaevata pead, hästi kiiresti vuristades... kuid jah, siin pole PRAEGU muud valikut,
kõik kes Reformi vastu praeguses olu-korras on, on 100% keskerakonna täis riigi (linn+riik+valitsus) valitsemise poolt
(ilma illusioonideta, on see ainukene järgmine valik)
ja need kes Reformi toetavad, soovivad praegu veel mida iganes (sh. Reformi), kuid mitte seda mis Ainukesena saab tulla kui nad lagunevad.
Vb nad tehtigi selleks, et nad riigi üle Keskile ulataksid, kes teab? Kuid see ei tähenda, et neil positiivne kasulikus puuduks, sest see punt koosneb ju Suures osas Eestlastest ikka ning nende valijad pole ka otsesed Eesti peale tigedad olendid.
Ning venemaa siis kohe saab anda raha süsti kui vaja (kogu rahvale) ja järgmised valimised päris kindlalt sinna otsa ka võidetakse, sest seda nööri otsa käest ei anta, miks peaks, ega nad siis sedasi tobud pole.
Venema ammu otsustanud,et ta meid ära ostab (kuna ende sõnul nad ammu ära märkinud kes kui palju maksab ja kuidas nendega saada hakkama kes pole rahaga nõus) kuid sis kui õige nukuvalitsu kohal on, et ajutise elu taseme tõstmise heaolu laine ei läheks kellegi muu kui kindlalt kuulekate arvele.
Et siin jah, ikka tasub alati mõelda,
Ja tõepoolest, minu arust on kapitalistid ja kommunistid ühed samad viisnurga (nurkade), pentagrammi kummardajad ühed kõik, kus mõlema tipud tumeda maailma tehinguid teadlikult teevad.
Need on kotka kaks pead mis on loodud, selleks, et suurem osa rahvast kujutaks ette, nagu nende kahe süsteemi vaheline on kemplemine,
Reaalsuses aga Ameerika (teoorias suurim kommunismi vastane) kõige vingem kaubakett, maailma suurim, kus enamus ameeriklased käivad on vähemalt 70% kauba osas Kommunistliku hiina oma, päris korralikult miljardid mis voolavad.
Miks nad süstemaatiliselt kommunistlikukorda siis toetavad? MIks nad alati need olid kes Venemaale raha andsid kui nad sõjaks vajasid? Miks nad nõustusid seda mitte tagasi nõudma? Miks Ameerika vana lipp koosnes tagurpidi, nurk all pentagrammist, miks nende mõlema sala teenistuse kesksed sümbolid on samad, miks nad kohe järgneva 24 tunni jooksul Ukrainasse appi ei läinud nagu lubati Ukrainale kui ta oma tuuma relvad ära andis (tingimuseks, et teda siis kaitstakse teoreetilise venemapoolse rünnaku eest, nii EU kui Nato poolt) ...miks miks miks.
ja nüüd kutsume need endale ise siia, ehitasime kasarmud ka veel.
Kuid jah, eks on veel teisi reaalsusi.
Me peame mõlemaid lohe peasi taltsutama ja mitte laskma ennast lihtsalt ära meelitada, korda maakeral hoidma lisaks oma riigile.
Seda aga saame teha ainult kui avalikult vaimu tarkustega liitume, riikliult, sest kuni sinna maani vaadatakse meid kui titasi kes mängivad riiki kui ei sa päris aru millises universumis me veel elame.
Ainukesed pooled kuhu me saame vaadata on Looduse, Usu ja Naise pool, nende vahel peaks käima arutlus, teised on nii mitu astet all pool, et nendega pole midagi rääkida. Teadlased ja Loominu inimesed vastka väärt. seni kuni nad vähemalt ühe neist kolmest põhi suunaga on - muidu sama hästi võib ta ennast kirja panna ka parema gaasikambri disaini ehituse projektile või majandus osakonnas välja arvutada kuidas näljahäda tekitada, või laboris uusi viruseid välja mõelda. Kellel pole tõe suunalist suunda, on väga ohtlik nimkonnale ja loodusele vastumeelt, kui iganes suurte Teslalike teadmistega keegi on.
Oih, pikas läks jälle11 March 2015 20:34
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Lelov's post.
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Usaldusväärne pole ta selle pärast, et on lubatud ainult paber hääletuse tulemusel hääletada, privaatselt, siis võib igaüks kus iganes palju neid sedeleid kokku kloppsida kui vale valitsus eesotsas on, kes "teab paremini".
Peaks olema paber+e-hääl,
Peaks olema näha kes kelle poolt hääletas ja x-teest peaks inimesele endale ligipääs oma hääletustele olema.
Avalik koopia kariigi arhiivis
Käisin ise ju kehtetu dokumendiga seekord hääletamas, igaüks oleks võinud teoorias mu selle kehtetu kaardi võtta ja mida iganes hääletada.
Muidugi komisjoni liikmed teadsid mind isiklikult, kuid mõnes muus kohas poleks vahet olnud. Sest nad ei kontrolli kas Su dokument on päriselt olemas või kehti, peaasi, et mingisugune kehtivus kuupäev peal on mis tundub sobilik.11 March 2015 20:11
Margus Meigo commented on Timo Kalaus's post.
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Saksamaa Aadu üks lemmik filme milles kirjeldatu vastu oma rahvast ette valmistada proovis: Metropolis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddkb345QNeI (eriti se koht, kus pentagrammi, viisnurga all uusi humonoide loodi mille kaudu inimkonda juhtida)
kuid noh, suts hilja .. projektid ammu toimimas..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddkb345QNeI
11 March 2015 20:04
Margus Meigo commented on Timo Kalaus's post.
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Eks see poliitika olegi Vana Kreeka huumor, must huumor, maa inimeste kulul11 March 2015 19:32
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Kristjan Baumer , kui see eest on kustumatuna tunduv Rooma (Kotka ja Kahepea kotka, viisnurga) ülemvõim või .. Ja lastel jaapanis pole vist päkapikud vaid Namahage @ Kristjan :p
Muidu päkapikud on olemas küll, kuid vaevalt, et nad kaariase tekitamisega tegelevad. Mine tea, vast kunagi tõid ka lastele midagi.. kuid jah, neid nähtud ja neist ammu räägitud kuid üldjuhul peab selleks erilisi seeni sööma,et nende mailm õnne korral nähtavaks muutuks.
Ilma naljata, veel lennuväelistele selline paharet jutuks nagu Krem.. Gremlin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlinhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlin
11 March 2015 19:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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No nii, saade peaks hakkama varsti, vaatme siis mis nii suurt TVst reklaamiti ette pikalt . )11 March 2015 19:18
Margus Meigo commented on Alar Ehala's post.
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Vähem küsimusi rohkem vastuseid Vooglaid.
Eerik-Niiles Krossi:
“On üks läbiv narratiiv, mida Kremlist erinevate kanalite läbi sugereeritakse, ka Eestisse. Ja see on see, et me ei ole ise suutelised ennast valitsema, meie demokraatlikud institutsioonid on nõrgad, valitsus on korrumpeerunud, kedagi ei saa usaldada. Tegelikult murendatakse eneseusku, tekitatakse ebakindlust ja see on see, millele tuleb igal juhul vastu hakata – tuleb [rahva] eneseusku säilitada.“
Vooglaid:
Mõelgem nende sõnade järelmitele ehk sellele, kuidas peaks nendest lähtudes rahvale nn psühholoogilise kaitse teostamine reaalselt välja nägema.
Vooglaid:
Kas valitsuse, jõustruktuuride ja meedia koostöös tuleks hakata vastu inimestele ja kodanikeühendustele, kes või mis heidavad valitsusele ning teistele institutsioonidele ette nõrkust, korrumpeeritust ja ebausaldusväärsust.
//Mina: JAH kui seda tehakse vastuoluliselt. Kuid Vastu Hakkamine tähendab eelkõige riiklikult inimeste harimist siinkohal.
Milles see “vastu hakkamine” peaks seisnema ning kes ja kuidas peaks seda teostama?
//MIna: Seisneb inimeste, vajadusel sunni viisiline jutuajamine ja haridus selle osas, kuidas olla Eestile kasulik.
Seda peaks teostama olenevalt isikutest tema eriala spetsid koos Vaimuliku, Psühholoogilise ja Kaitseliidu toega. Kõrgemate isikute puhul Teabeamet, Kapo kaitseliidu asemel.
Kas neid inimesi ja ühendusi peaks meedia vahendusel avalikult häbimärgistama, nagu siin saates tehakse SAPTK-ga?
//Mina: alguses hoiatus ja registrisse kandmine ja siis avalikku registrisse kandmine kus rahvas ise saaks ka näha miks riigivastased eksisid.
Või peaks neile jõustruktuuride abil survet avaldama?
//Mina: Jah kui selleks on vajadust, ehk kui teisel on mõistust puudu ja ei soovi põhi Eesti väärtusi omaks võtta
Ja millist rolli mängib kriitika põhjendatus ehk selle tõelevastavus – on sel üldse tähtsust?
//MIna: Natuke veider küsimus.
Me enamasti mitte ei võta vastutusele infost aru saamist vaid seda kuidas seda kasutati.11 March 2015 03:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Samal ajal aga teistele annad piitsa edasi, ja teed korjandusi emotsioonidega manipuleerides, et maaffia elektri arvet maksta.
Ja ähvardad hoopis korralike omakorda, kui nad alfa ülburit enam aidata ei soovi.
Viisnurgad on ikka viisnurgad :/11 March 2015 03:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Kuidas see on võimalik, peaks ju kohe EU st välja kihutama need kiirkorras, sellise ähvarduse korral. Staatuse Kreeka paberite ja dokumentide osas samale tasemele viia kui Uruguai või Venemaal kes ei saa SELLISTE asjadega sedasi ähvardada.
Kui kaua me selle Kreeka-Rooma ülbusele allume.
Kujuta ette, võtad kellegi üüriliseks, ja siis ta renti ei maksa ja möliseb ka peale seda kui oled mitu korda ta võlad maksnud (kuigi pügad üüriga kuid vähem kui teisi üürilisi)
ja siis kui ütled, et teed tema osas sanktsioone, ähvardab Sul baltijaamast suva kadjakatele, meelega kõige hullematele keda leida suudab võtmed anda, igale ühele, mitmes koopias, et need tuleksid ja rüüstaksid Sul kogu maja ära.
ja siis majaomanikuna vabandad, hoiad mokka maas ja lased maffial edasi oma majas olla ?
Kus see loogika siin on11 March 2015 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Canadian engineer, politician, writer and commentator who has had a long and varied career. He is the longest serving current member of the Privy Council, just ahead of Prince 420Philippines
i mean Phillipe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hellyer
i mean Phillipe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hellyer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hellyer
11 March 2015 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on Urmas Künstler's post.
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Venemaa ainult siis kirjutab "meisugustega" alla mingile lepingule kui nad leidnud, et see neile VEEL kasulikum kui praegune, see peaks ilmselge olema.
EI järgita nagunii, aga kui midagi saab kirjutada mis uute Maa plaanidega (tulnukad, religioonid, sise riigi ülevõtt jms) kasulik on siis nad on nõus, nad muidu lihtsalt soovitaks meilselle pähe määrida.
Ega enam pole see aeg, kus Meri läks kohale, võttis mitu pitsi ja kriitilisel ajal tegi midagi millele nõudis Eestikeelse tõlke mis keeleliselt meile kasulikum oli, sest nõue oli, et Eesti Keelset varianti peab järgima kui tekib arusaamatus.
Kui sellega nüüd mööda pannakse, siis johaidii.. sest pärast nad veel tulevad ja selgitavad mida nende keeles mis mida tähendab muutes paari male nupu asukohta.10 March 2015 23:57
Margus Meigo commented on Vahur Sillasoo's link.
noh, müükis v?
10 March 2015 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on Heidi Tamm's post.
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Kuid nali mulle iseenesest meeldib : )
(Y)10 March 2015 20:22
Margus Meigo commented on Heidi Tamm's post.
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Selle seltskonnaga võrreldes kes ta ümber kraaksuvad ta ikka asjalik, kindlasti pole ka pehmo kellele pugemise ja piitsaga külje alla nii naljalt saab liibuda EUs.
Kuid noh, ju ta ikka arvestas ka, et see viisnurga ümarlaud mille taha istuma läheb, et ega ta päris sinisilmne pole, seal tehakse korralike kambakaid prantslaste ja punaste poolt..
ta reaalsest perest ka mu teada. seega jah.
Üldse on väga mage kui mingi politik teenib ainult 5-10 tuhat kuus ja siis me siin viriseme ja kiunume teise rahakoti küljes.
2-3+ tonni euri juba maksab mingi korralikum hotelli ööpäev kus muud masoonlikud riigi isad kohtingule lähevad välismaal, et muljetada. Veel rohkem, et kindlaks teha, et muid jobusi selles hoones jõlkumas pole kui need kes väärt on.
Ja see pole mingi raha isegi mille peale mõeldakse, see taskuraha kui Rahamailmas elad ja kui mingid vaesed krantsid ennast ebamugavalt selliste summade ees tunnevad (mõni ainult 3 tonni kuus palka saab) siis selliste mõtetult vaeste kolmanda järgu inimestega eriti tõsiselt isegi ei hakata rääkima.
Mis mõjutusjõudu tal saab olla.
Kui just mingi vaimulik juhtub lema, siis teine asi.
Raha suurustest ei saada aru, ule 500 avaliku miljardnäri on,
kellel mõnel on rohkem raha kui bill gatsil.
Üks miljard euri on nii suur raha, et sa pead IGA nädal, umbes 20 Millioni (300 millionit eeku nädalas) süstemaatiliselt ära kulutama, et miljardit ühe aastaga ära kulutada. Ei ole üldse lihtne, sest seda kulutades tekib kohe uuesti juurde nii suurte summade puhul.
Ja me siin norime, mängu kannide, autode.. ja jumal hoiaks.. keskpäraselt viisaka (hallitusjuustu) tasemel?
NIng kuna sa veini ainult mõned korrad aastas jood kui pole sõltlane, siis kui just Põltsama marja joogid pole lemmikud nagu minul, siis on täitsa normaalne osta 100-200 eurone vein.
Sellise summa tavalised lasnamäe elanikud mängivad ühe õhtuga kasiinos maha, mitukorda aastas. Ilma, et tarkade või armsa inimestega istuks.
Ma üle aasta elasin prügikastidest ja siis isegi minul oli hallitusjuust ikka mitukorda kuus menüüs, suurtes kogustes.
Tulge ihnusest välja, reaalsusesse.10 March 2015 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on Silvi Poom's post.
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Kuid jah, see on hea, et üks mõtetu tööstus vähem, kui muidu rik targemaks ei saa siis läbi vaesuse.
Piima tööstus aga on meil suht eliit.. seda praegu veel tasuks päästa, selliseid piima tooteid välis turule saata mida meil siin lademes on oleks suur edu, kui imidz õige on.10 March 2015 19:41
Margus Meigo commented on Kristo Feldberg's post.
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muidugi peaegu kõiki enamusi selliseid juhtumeid keegi ei kuule, sest väga harva üldse kui ohver julgeb piiksugi teha kui sellise koletise kätte satud, õpetus ju on "ole vait ja lase tegutseda, muidu saad haiget ...vähemalt jääb elu sisse"
Nagu see Delphi jõhkard keda sära silmil üle maailma promotakse, selgitas ja õpetas naistele. Et miks nad elu võtsid viimaselt..10 March 2015 17:33
Margus Meigo commented on Kristo Feldberg's post.
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Mis mõttes "Kas kõik on korras" , kohe aken sisse juraki või võtad lähima kola ja pillud vastu autot ... ja virutad jalaga lähimate autode pihta nii, et signaalid toimima hakkavad, samal ajal kiirelt veel helistad menti kus autonumbri ja kirjelduse annad edasi (või enne kiirelt menti ja siis rünnakule, kuidas parem tundub, oleneb keskkonnast),
kui eriti tugev pole siis igaks juhuks ole jooksu valmis ka kas või sest mine tea mitu kolli nugadega sääl on kuid nagu niisama minema kõndida, või ainult politseisse helistada ja siis lasta edasi toimetada.. ma ei mõista mis südametunnistus see on, hääled olid VÄGA selged ju..
Muidugi video materjal on ka väga nõmedalt tehtud ja peaks olema kogu must materjal saadaval koos korralike videoga mitte kus inimesed täiesti tundmatud on, jättes pättidele mulje kes vaatavad, et kui keegi filmib, et siis eriti midagi näha pole.
Need asjad alati klahte pidi toimuvad erinevate ajude jaoks, seda ka vaja arvestada.. ja eks see Rootsi, Sweden ole ka maa, mis alles mõni aasta tagasi loomade vägistamise ja nende videode poodides levitamise ära keelustas,.. ei mitte eelmisel sajandil, alles mõni aasta tagasi.
Ja siis tulevad meile ja kogu maailmale moraali lugema, panevad naisi sundkorras sõjaväkke ja mida kõike veel..10 March 2015 17:26
Margus Meigo commented on Kristo Feldberg's post.
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Mul kalamaja nurgal hakati tüdrukle päise päeva ajal kallale, talvel, väga veider, tüdruk kriiskas appi.. (see kalamaja lõpu nurk, kunsti maja jures)
samal ajal mu kõrval üks tohlem, korda suurem kui mina, vahtis ringi ja jätkas oma asjade pakkimist autosse, et noh.. "küll üle läheb"
ma siissusides tormasin kohale ja oligi, tüdruk närvi vapustuse äärel, kuid noh.. mina midagi vast ära ei päästnud, kuid väga vabalt oleks võinud see kisa ka vaigistatuks jääda ja inimesed oleks oma igapäeva tööd edasi teinud.
Täitsa veider ühiskond, ja sellised testid pole ka päris head.. sest see pole ka viisakas testida, kas inimesed tuleksid appi.. nu päris õige ei tundu.. inglismaal oleks meil suureks madinaks läinud, miskid mustad ülikooli õpilased tegid ka avalikku teatrit, testimaks rahva reageeringut avaliku ahistamsie suhtes .... muidugi vaja aru saada rahva tuimusest.. kuid noh, ma pole päris kindel kas need testid on head, sest siis veelgi vähem keegi kohale tahab joosta ehk järgmine kord
(teisi pidi head turvalised enese kindluse testid, et eks see esimesel korral ikka inimesel võtab julgust, et sekkuda ja õigesti käituma hakata momendi pealt.. )10 March 2015 17:16
Margus Meigo commented on Silvi Poom's post.
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Notsude söömine pole eriti mingi parem tegevus kui korealaste koerte, eriti kuna sead meile geneetiliselt ligemal mis omakorda kahjulik (ja lisaks mitu muud põhjust).
Liha ei kõlba süüagi kui sa seda hoolega ära ei töötle, maitsesta soola ja pipraga (kaks ainet mida ka tegelikult pole vaja lisaks toidule panna, sest mängivad me maitse retseptoritega lihtsalt kuid kasu ei mingisugust, nõiakuntstis vast toiduna kasutatav aint).
Seega energiat raiskav toit, ... ning kui midagi muutub väga mürgiseks peale hapnemist siis see ka just heast toidust märk pole.
Märke palju, kuid ei viitsita lugeda.
Prantsuse kuningas kunagi surmanuhtluse tegi sellise ühele pundile, et vangistades neile ainult liha süüa andis mille tagajärjel loomulikult inimene ära sureb (kui ta taimi ei saa mis mürke kehast välja viiks mis lihaga tekivad ning eluga ei asenda mis looduses).
Se ehk paar sammu liialt palju tava tänapäeva inimesele, aga mõni mõte siit kõrvataha panna tasu küll,
http://www.luuleviilma.ee/index.php?id=7856http://www.luuleviilma.ee/index.php?id=7856
10 March 2015 17:08
Margus Meigo commented on Silvi Poom's post.
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Ma ise analüüsin seda muidugi kui paha olukorraga tekkinud positiivsus.
Pole vaja meie hingele seda loomade maha löömist ja laiba liha müümist ja oma inimestele sisse söötmist.
Liha söömine on sõltuvus, haigus millest on võimalik üle saada ja siiani, need kes päriselt on mõistusega seda teinud (mitte uue aja x skeemidega kapsalehti toidulisanditega näksides) siis on nii tervis kui mõistus tunduvalt paranema hakanud,
Tean kolmanda põlve taimetoitlasi Eestis kes väga töökad, edukad ja ka vaimu asjadega kodus seda kõike ilma raamatuta,
ainult õige toidu peal olles. Haigusi pole ka peres tuntud eriti.
Ise olin kogu esimese poole elust väga regulaarselt haige, kuid hiljem kui nüüd (kuigi kesise), aga looduslikuma toidu peal pole tervisehädasi aastaid juba külastanud. Isegi hammaste põletik, valud ja lagunemine peatus mis ennastki üllatas.
Maitse elundid harjuvad ka uuesti normaalsusega ja meeldiva maitsega on need toidud mida ma noorena suusisse ei tahtnud võtta.
Usu mõttes liha söömine selle pärast ei ole hea (lisaks laiba viimase oleku sisse söömine ja selle kaudu läbi meedia tumeda poole lihtsustatud inimeste reguleerimine) et nälja korral, mida saab kergesti ka nüüd juhtuda, veel lihtsamini kui vanasti, asuti inimesi sööma. Tean ise neid kes on väitnud, vähemalt ausalt, et nälja korral ta surnud inimese ikka ära sööks sest liha on liha ja mis siin ikka pipsutada, et keemiliselt pole suurt vahet.
Eestlased jäid ellu tänu naadi ja muu sarnase söömis oskusele, kuid meid prooviti suunata väga pahade asjade suunas. Eks see on näha milliseid lapsi mõne muu maa lapsed on tootnud peale sõda..
(väga lihtne asi veel mis on liha sõltlastel, nad nagu ka suitsu sõltlased lähevad äärmiselt närvi ja arrituvad kiiresti nendel teemadel, seega palun mitte laskuda sellese vaidlusesse siia, selgitan lihtsalt miks SUURS plaanis see seafarmi sulgemine on hea, kasvatagu parem uuesti Linast, Kanepit ja palju muud head mis meid saaks õige turundusega väga rikkaks teha,
lihtsam oleks ka, liha kiiresti riknev toodand mille väärtust hoides pead ta elektriga ühendatud hoidma pidevalt, sügavkülmas)10 March 2015 17:07
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Liisa Sarapik's post.
Sounds like my dream job
10 March 2015 04:35
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Liisa Sarapik's post.
Mitmes osa Leeduatega on ?
10 March 2015 04:34
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Liisa Sarapik's post.
Any online links for these also ?
(not even sure what is that... )
(not even sure what is that... )
10 March 2015 03:17
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
in Estonia "LoLL" is means "stupid" ... so half of internet does not even know that we actually laugh at You not just having great sense of humour.
(oh, and another half are Christians.. so..)
(oh, and another half are Christians.. so..)
10 March 2015 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on Urmas Espenberg's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ma ei tea kes selle poti soenguga on kuid selliste soengutega normaalsetes poliitika ridades osalemine tuleks küll ära keelata oma sõpradel. Ma muidugi ei usalda eriti kedagi kellel mitmeaastast habe pole, kuid see selleks. Väike Rooma korra kompleks.
See kukla paljaks ajamine ja potisoeng on vahest hullem kui viisnurka kandmine sest näitab juba otsest vaimset seotust teatud "Juured maha" vallutusvägede mõttemaailmaga nõustumises ja allumises teatud elustiilidele.
Paljud noored vist ise ei tea, mida see "mood" tähendab, kuid see juba üle tuhande aasta vana mood ja mitte Maa inimeste seas. Kui korra seda oled kandnud siis oled kui mõrgistatud teatud agentuuride silmis.
Ja vaadates seda ajaloolist tausta, siis Lady Gaga video seletab ka hästi selle soengu tausta, VALUS ta on aga nii ta on, proovige video mõistvalt ära vaadata, et aru saada. Ja just selle pärast on vaja omasi aidata, kes selle soengu (mõttemaailma) küüsi on langenud (millega kaasneb omakorda osaline ülbus, ükskõiksus, juurtest mitte hoolimine, rahamaailmale allumine ... ja veel mõni aste tumedamaks.)
(videos Alejandro - see tähendab Alexander (piltide rännakus, suur homo alexander, kelle maailma korraldusele ta vihjab nii pildis kui kirjas, kuni saksa ajani.. kes vast ka Rooma kahepealise kontka all oli veel üle sajandi tagasi avaikult...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA
Seda video peab päris mitu korda vaatama, et neid sisse pakitud põhilisi detaile näha.. (ja veel arvestada, et avalikult GagA peaks nagu olema vähemuste propageeria, kuid dokumentaalis ütles, et ta tegelikult väga konservatiivsete perekonna väärtustega. Miks muusika pop video on oluline? Sest nende kaudu teavitatakse inimesi reaalsustest suuremas hulgas kui CNN uudiste, vahest. )
Kui me päriselt Eesti asja ajama hakkame siis ikka peaks loobuma teadlikult kokakooladest ja mudest juradest mis on selleks mõeldud, et väikerahvastest lahti saada (raha on täeisti teisejärguline, ausalt. Raha on lihtsalt põhi ainuke vahent mida me näha oskame, nagu elekter... kuid ega siis rahast pole kellegil puudu kes orjasi kasvatab, ta omab neid tehaseid ja maalappe oma mõistes, ja poode kuhu Sa "oma" rahaga uesti tagasi tuled nende ette ja kõik tagasi annad kohtadesse mis ette määratud... ja seni kuni Sa rahaga liialt tegema ei hakka, mida pole sovitav (korda muutma paremaks looduse suunalisemaks, ajalugu avalikustama ja sümboleid mis me silme all... jms)...siis just võid maises mõttes õnnelikult elu otsa saamiseni turvalises rahus elada..)
Muudest karvade stiilidest sin natukene:
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http://www.artofmanliness.com/2012/06/07/shaving-rituals/
http://www.medieval-life-and-times.info/medieval-clothing/medieval-hairstyles.htm
Sorry ka, ega ma solvata kedagi ei tahtnud, ikka aidata.
Parem meie ise kui keegi muuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA
9 March 2015 21:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Et siin see saade siis: http://www.tallinnatv.eu/index.php/saated-sarjad/arutelu/rahvaadvokaat/3254-2015-03-04-rahvaadvokaat
"Ükskõik mis, peaasi, et mitte..."http://www.tallinnatv.eu/index.php/saated-sarjad/arutelu/rahvaadvokaat/3254-2015-03-04-rahvaadvokaat
9 March 2015 20:19
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Baumer's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
... Siin ta on. Äre siis liialt vihaseks minge,
tuleb meelde see punastepuükstega...adidamoi laul, et ta kenasti sinna osakonda sobiks kui olks võimalus
http://www.tallinnatv.eu/index.php/saated-sarjad/arutelu/rahvaadvokaat/3254-2015-03-04-rahvaadvokaathttp://www.tallinnatv.eu/index.php/saated-sarjad/arutelu/rahvaadvokaat/3254-2015-03-04-rahvaadvokaat
9 March 2015 20:17
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Baumer's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Saite selle tegelase TallinaTV jutuajamise kätte ?9 March 2015 20:14
Margus Meigo commented on Urmas Künstler's post.
9 March 2015 17:56
Margus Meigo commented on Urmas Künstler's post.
9 March 2015 17:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
9 March 2015 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's link.
Kui seda iga hommikjooma hakata siis oma mao happelisuse võib tuksi keerata.
9 March 2015 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Baumer's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ma panin selle postituse siia ka siis kui saade oli peal umbes mõni päev tagasi, .. mingi rahvaga seotud... kus nad ilusa puu laua taga istusid
muidugi kõik need saated sellel kanalilt tuleks analyysiks riigi arhiivi salvestada ja koopia hiina serveritesse ka kindluse mõttes
Proovin homme leida kui Sa täna ei leia.. mul viimane jupp aeglast internetti ja ei tea kui kauaks seda isegi on..9 March 2015 04:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
And feel free to share how you feel about that comparison.. : )
9 March 2015 03:52
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Helme's photo.
Heidi Erki Tamm Armastus ei tee haiget, vaid need kes ei oska armastada teevad
9 March 2015 03:41
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's link.
Kas kellegil on mingi uus info, et nagu Kreml ja Lääs on eri pooltel v?
Et kotkal on keha kahestunud ja nüüd on eraldi linnud v?
(Kahepeaga Kotka sümbol on läbi vastaspoolsuse juhtida läänt ja... rooma ajast juba..ja enne seda... nad ei ole ju ainult SIIT ilmast.. vist eks?)
Et kotkal on keha kahestunud ja nüüd on eraldi linnud v?
(Kahepeaga Kotka sümbol on läbi vastaspoolsuse juhtida läänt ja... rooma ajast juba..ja enne seda... nad ei ole ju ainult SIIT ilmast.. vist eks?)
9 March 2015 03:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Feminist Research Group
Express freely. Agree or..(or ask what is about)
or about what is not9 March 2015 03:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Friends of UK Black Pride
Express freely. Agree or..(or ask what is about)9 March 2015 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Feminism Unfolded
Express freely. Agree or..
(or ask what is about)9 March 2015 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ma arvan et ikkagi on. Kuid oma mölakas, veel.
Mida jumala ligemal inimene on seda rohkem on tal vastutust olla vähem mölakas.
Pean teda ikka õpetama minema kuni veel aega, et ta saaks enda sõnad muuta ja neid arendada (kuigi karmist vaates, radikaalselt lahutades, tema sõnade suunad suures osas õiged, kuid seda enam paneb see osa muretsema kus ta puuse paneb)
Ühesõnaga ei ole nii tark kui ta olla võiks kui ta targem oleks
Mida jumala ligemal inimene on seda rohkem on tal vastutust olla vähem mölakas.
Pean teda ikka õpetama minema kuni veel aega, et ta saaks enda sõnad muuta ja neid arendada (kuigi karmist vaates, radikaalselt lahutades, tema sõnade suunad suures osas õiged, kuid seda enam paneb see osa muretsema kus ta puuse paneb)
Ühesõnaga ei ole nii tark kui ta olla võiks kui ta targem oleks
9 March 2015 03:24
Margus Meigo commented on Heidi Tamm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
NU aga kas te siis ei arvestanud selle kõigega ?
mingi metapedia juraga ennast siduda oli eriti kretiine ausaltöeldes, seda jura lugenud olete mida kokku sinna klopsitud on v?
Nagu saan aru, et ennast lõbustada sellega seal, kuid nagu see jätab kretiini mulje kui juudi vastaste punastega ("sinistega") avalikult punti ennast panna, sest kõik kes vähegi päriselt uurida on viitsinud, näevad, et Rooma impeerium oli see kelle juured Saksamaal neid asju tegi mida nad ikka Usklikutega teinud on ja see sama impeeriumi teine suur tiib on Venemaa.
Rooma ja Kreeka aga, kelle rüppes enamus inimesi läänes elab, on teatavasti väga haigete asjade toetajad ja juutide vastu on nad sest juudid sula selgelt tol ajal olid emajärgsed, ehk siis naise kesksed kus naise suunas oli kogu austus, see ei läinud aga Kreeka homode sõjaväe plaanidega kokku.
Nüüd sarnastatakse mingi väljamõeldud, ise hakanud, vägistatud emade sünnitatud lastelapsi päris juutidega kuigi viimastel habe ajatud, Pühakirja ei järgi ja kannavad lipsu. Ning töötavad kommunistidega koos (kes siis on juutide vastased, kõige otsesemad, Rooma üks südamik, sest Juutidel on usukese mille põhi arusaamad peaks igal arenenud inimesel selge olema, et üldse saada õigust avalikult rääkida millegist või poliitikas osaleda)9 March 2015 03:16
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Baumer's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Sa oleks pidanud nägema mida ta TallinaTV s rääkis..9 March 2015 03:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Do You think Jewish have a Womens Day?
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
"Sex is the woman's right, not the man's. A man has a duty to give his wife sex regularly and to ensure that sex is pleasurable for her. He is also obligated to watch for signs that his wife wants sex, and to offer it to her without her asking for it. The woman's right to sexual intercourse is referred to as onah, and is one of a wife's three basic rights (the others are food and clothing), which a husband may not reduce. The Talmud specifies both the quantity and quality of sex that a man must give his wife. It specifies the frequency of sexual obligation based on the husband's occupation, although this obligation can be modified in the ketubah (marriage contract). A man may not take a vow to abstain from sex for an extended period of time, and may not take a journey for an extended period of time, because that would deprive his wife of sexual relations. In addition, a husband's consistent refusal to engage in sexual relations is grounds for compelling a man to divorce his wife, even if the couple has already fulfilled the halakhic obligation to procreate."
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
"Sex is the woman's right, not the man's. A man has a duty to give his wife sex regularly and to ensure that sex is pleasurable for her. He is also obligated to watch for signs that his wife wants sex, and to offer it to her without her asking for it. The woman's right to sexual intercourse is referred to as onah, and is one of a wife's three basic rights (the others are food and clothing), which a husband may not reduce. The Talmud specifies both the quantity and quality of sex that a man must give his wife. It specifies the frequency of sexual obligation based on the husband's occupation, although this obligation can be modified in the ketubah (marriage contract). A man may not take a vow to abstain from sex for an extended period of time, and may not take a journey for an extended period of time, because that would deprive his wife of sexual relations. In addition, a husband's consistent refusal to engage in sexual relations is grounds for compelling a man to divorce his wife, even if the couple has already fulfilled the halakhic obligation to procreate."
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
9 March 2015 00:51
Margus Meigo commented on Fanm Kreyol, Inc. Week's post.
Good Female day,
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
9 March 2015 00:30
Margus Meigo commented on Fi Blower's post.
Good Female day,
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
9 March 2015 00:30
Margus Meigo commented on Étudiant.e.s Communistes Nanterre's post.
Good Female day,
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
9 March 2015 00:30
Margus Meigo commented on Ung Vänster Malmö's post.
Good Female day,
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
9 March 2015 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on Sheila Dickinson's post.
Good Female day,
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
9 March 2015 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on Leo Stranius's post.
Good Female day,
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
9 March 2015 00:28
Margus Meigo commented on Judy Chicago Art Education Collection's post.
Good Female day,
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
9 March 2015 00:28
Margus Meigo commented on Xarhs Scocozza's post.
Good Female day,
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
9 March 2015 00:27
Margus Meigo commented on Jéssika Karen's post.
Good Female day,
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
9 March 2015 00:27
Margus Meigo commented on Venn Elliot Melcer's post.
Yes where are they ?
9 March 2015 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on Melody Rose's post.
Good Female day,
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
9 March 2015 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's link.
Nu mis hall unistus see on, et KAPO on loodud, selleks, et Eesti Põhiseadust kaitsta? Kas arvame, et venemaa meil selleks oma seadmeid andis, jättis (mida me "üle võtsime") ja töölisi sina tööle pani, et Eestlust säilitada, oleme ikka tõsised siin v?
(aga arhiivid viimased olulised juba 89 viis ära, sest plaan oli juba ette teada neil)
Venelased siiamaani irvitavad suure häälega, oma kometaariumites ja isegi veebileht neil selle kohta tehtud, kus kirjas inimesi ja seadmeid mida antud ja kuidas mida lasti Eestlastel uskuda, mida me oma ahnusega arvasime, et ise targad ja ise võtsime kavalusega... sest vanemaid inimesi ei kuulatud.
Nagu SUUR VENE VÕIMU, Üli kolmanda Rooma Suurimaid väljendusi, mille kallal üle tuhande aasta vaeva nähtud (sinna hulka käib ka selle vaesena hoidmine), VÄGA sügavate tehnoloogiatega millega inimese sisse pääseb (vaimud, taimed,elektroonika, psühholoogia), ... pani OMA töölised Kaposse tööle, avalikult, ja siis me arvasime, et nad hakkasid nunnu Eesti tarbes tööle, teades mis võimu sügavus ja võimalused "neil" on ?
Kas nagu neid uudiseid tõsimeeli pannakse ja siis imestatakse, kui nagu keegi vahele jääb, et võõrvõimule töötas (enamasti meelega, moraali naeruvääristamiseks, nagu meid ka naerdakse Kohveriga kunagi) ... või need nagu paroodiaga mõeldud rohkem?
Teabebüroo on ainukene mis algeliselt puhta südame sooviga tehti.
--
Muidugi omakorda siin veel vana eestlaste oma tarkus ka milleks seda kasutatakse, kuid see selleks
(aga arhiivid viimased olulised juba 89 viis ära, sest plaan oli juba ette teada neil)
Venelased siiamaani irvitavad suure häälega, oma kometaariumites ja isegi veebileht neil selle kohta tehtud, kus kirjas inimesi ja seadmeid mida antud ja kuidas mida lasti Eestlastel uskuda, mida me oma ahnusega arvasime, et ise targad ja ise võtsime kavalusega... sest vanemaid inimesi ei kuulatud.
Nagu SUUR VENE VÕIMU, Üli kolmanda Rooma Suurimaid väljendusi, mille kallal üle tuhande aasta vaeva nähtud (sinna hulka käib ka selle vaesena hoidmine), VÄGA sügavate tehnoloogiatega millega inimese sisse pääseb (vaimud, taimed,elektroonika, psühholoogia), ... pani OMA töölised Kaposse tööle, avalikult, ja siis me arvasime, et nad hakkasid nunnu Eesti tarbes tööle, teades mis võimu sügavus ja võimalused "neil" on ?
Kas nagu neid uudiseid tõsimeeli pannakse ja siis imestatakse, kui nagu keegi vahele jääb, et võõrvõimule töötas (enamasti meelega, moraali naeruvääristamiseks, nagu meid ka naerdakse Kohveriga kunagi) ... või need nagu paroodiaga mõeldud rohkem?
Teabebüroo on ainukene mis algeliselt puhta südame sooviga tehti.
--
Muidugi omakorda siin veel vana eestlaste oma tarkus ka milleks seda kasutatakse, kuid see selleks
9 March 2015 00:23
Margus Meigo commented on Fredens Hus's post.
Good Female day,
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
9 March 2015 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on Sylvia Frazier's post.
Good Female day,
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
9 March 2015 00:13
Margus Meigo commented on Diana Koshman's post.
Good Female day,
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
#femaleday .:. #WomensDay .:. #Matriarchy
and my expression about it all (kind of), in a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
9 March 2015 00:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankh
9 March 2015 00:01
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
It has been the answer all the time
8 March 2015 23:50
Margus Meigo commented on Shalani Tharaka's photo.
Good Female day,
and my oppinion about it all (kind of), in less then a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
#femaleday
#WomensDay
and my oppinion about it all (kind of), in less then a minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
#femaleday
#WomensDay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-sNL3-WZUU
8 March 2015 23:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Yes, i know.. "Good that we have at least that nice.."
Yes, but where we even did come to so low, that it was urgency to have One.. what about focusing a eyes in one direction all the time, from chld on
Yes, but where we even did come to so low, that it was urgency to have One.. what about focusing a eyes in one direction all the time, from chld on
8 March 2015 22:07
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's link.
Kellele siis alluma peaks, topelt kotkale v
8 March 2015 21:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
not realy related, but just so cute, innit, with all the five stars :
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/photographs/view.php?id=18132
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/photographs/view.php?id=18132
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/photographs/view.php?id=18132
8 March 2015 17:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kas Luule viilamst on audiot?
Või lase ise mõni lint lendu,
Tean ise ka mitut lähedast naist kes võiks vabalt enamuse osas maailma paika panna
Või lase ise mõni lint lendu,
Tean ise ka mitut lähedast naist kes võiks vabalt enamuse osas maailma paika panna
8 March 2015 17:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Selles osas, "venelaste" osas vananenud arusaam, sest tuleb vaadata kes see ja kuidas see "venelane" tekitati, kes ta on ja kas ta olemas üldse on.. Sealpool piiri suuri vägilasi nagu meie siin ka, kes ka lõpuks uskuma jäävad, et just siin meie vaatamata headele oludele oleme käärima läinud ja siis aitavad suur vaimu väega tulla siia ja peale astuda kui piisavalt plärtsume sedasi8 March 2015 16:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Mainis olulisi tõdesi teatud taimedest ka, seega julgel jagada.. et kuigi aegunud arusaamad lahenduste osas, siis vähemalt päris kindel lootus, et võimalik paranemine tuleb.
Investeerige see tund järelkuulamiseks8 March 2015 16:43
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
aina segasemaks lähevad need asjad sin süüdistustes mida välja pritsitakse, arusaamata lause taga olevate tõdede tähendusi reaalsuses ja mis SIIS peaks tegema kui nii on, kui aru saame.
Tegu on sama vaimu valitsusega kes Kreeka valitses, samad maavälised.
Väga lihtne, pole vaja keeruliseks ajada siin lääne ja venemaa jms propagandat toota juurde just seda mida Orweliani nukud soovivad,et ise toodaksime. Nagu nukud, täpselt koodi järgi räägime neid sõnu mida on vaja (ja kui vastupidi räägiksime siis KA teeksime seda mida nukupidajad soovivad, sest mõlemad need pooled on ühe ja sama poole poolt välja mõeldud, et kes kuhu iganes hüppaks oleks ikka kontrollitav, ette aimatav ja juhitav, sest siis on teada, et nad ei sõltu tõest ja neid saab juhtida neile juurde mõeldes tagurpidi ja edaspidi "ajaLugu" )
Kõik kes on mingi Juudi vastasuses sees on väga suure tõenäosusega sügavas puudes millest on vaja välja tulla,see paha vaim.
Kes ei ole aru saanud ,et Venemaa on pantvangis ja meie oma õde, see ka väga ohtlik sest puhta loll, kuid vast mitte nii ohtlik kui otseselt Jumala ja Kristluse vastu toimetav, sest siis on juba tegu siemise kurjusega meie maal, mis saab ka puhastatud.
Toodetakse igast Rooma vanu kulunud lugusi pedo preestritest (kes nad ise on) ja mängitakse muude inimeste sise ihade peal mida teistele pannakse, ja siis suurem osa kes ise seda viirust kannavad hea meelega teisi selles süüdistavad.
Suurem osa inimesi kes süüdistab kommuniste ja nende vastaseid (tegelikud vastandid muidugi on Päris Juudis ja Kiristlased, Maa usulised) kuid nu need kes kommunistide (Kreeka-Rooma kapitalistide, orjapidajate) poolt välja mõeldi kui teine pool, mis peaks nagu "Hoopis teine, vastane, vastupidine" mõtlemine olema ... aga ei ole.. täpselt sama viisnurga teenimine, isegi kui pääsed osadele taime tarkustele ja naiste saladustele ligi.. siis endiselt lõpetadlooduse hävitajate toetajatena isegi kui ise oma kartulit kasvatad.
Sest siis otsitakse sinust välja just need osad KÕIKIDEST sinu uskumustest ja tarkustest milles eksid, ja siis kasutatakse just NEID üksikuid osasi kogust muust Sinu kartuksest teiste vastu, ja just neid ärgitatakse Sinul, et neid ise välja räägiksid.
Vast on võimalik sellega kaasa minna, ja meelega songleerida, seda heaks tehes milleks Sind ära kasutatakse ... kuid seni kuni veel on kasvõi ÜHE rava vastane arusaam, või inimgrupi.. siis väga raske tões särada, sest ikka leitakse, kuidas sind enda silmis targaks kuid päris tarkade silmis täielikult ebatargaks teha, ja siis ära kasutatavaks antakse Sind nende poolt kellele see kasulik.... head võtavad ja teevad nagunii mida tahavad, kui need kes alles headuse teel, kasutavad ka head milleks iganes nad algselt soovivad, seni kuni on lubatud kasutada (ehk seni kuni inimesel üks vigagi küljes on mille kaudu saab valele teele viia, ehk siis hea vastaselt kasutada)..
Kah mul endal ka see viga, peaaegu aru saanud ja mõistma hakanud neid aju puudulike kes usu vastasteks manipuleeritud Kreeka-Rooma aegsete plaani tegijate poolt, kuid veelgi raskem on inimeste silmis andestust tuua, õigust neile endile kes aegade algusest saati loonud olendeid kes põlastavad inimest, ja vabandus leida neile kellel puudub võime kaasa tunda, sest nad on teistsuguse koostisega, kelle sees puudub tunne.
Kuid kellel on olemas strateegia, ja keda aegajalt juhib Looduse kallale just see kes inimesi põlastab.. (sest me saime õiguse Naisele.. vist selle pärast eks? ) .. ja siis paneb ja aitab silti panna Tema külge millist iganes soovivad.
Saatan ja Kurat pole ju päris see üks ja sama. Ja mida nad kasutavad, pole ka nemad alati... kuid need keda süüdistatakse nende tegemistes pole ammugi need keda süüdistatakse.
See peaks arusaama, pähe tagumisest ei aita, kuid küll ma selle kõigile teile selgeks saan kes nõustumisega aeglased.
See emotsioon tuli ka peale viimast Uibo kõne, kuigi ta saates otse välja Ütles, et on olemas ainult üks inimene veel kes sobiks Eesti ainuvalitsejaks ja see peaks olema Helme
- viimane osa on lihtsalt selle pärast avalikult pandud, et te kõik ise ka oma peres seda ennetada saaksite, sest just Selle kaudu siis kui võitnud olete, teie juurde tullakse (või võidu ennetamiseks juba seda enne tehakse, seeme mulda pannakse) :
(ehk ütlen juba ette ära, et teid lahendatakse välis võimude poolt sedasi ära, et poeg aetakse tülli isaga ja nad koos eemaldatakse naisest, sest nad mõlemad ei saa aru veel, et pere, maailma kese on Naine)8 March 2015 16:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
OKey mitte jobu, mölakas.
Kuid seda on lihtne juhtuma heal teel olles, suurem osa mis rääkis mul isa ka veelgi ilmekamalt oskaks väljendada kuid see osa milles mööda paneb on just see mida ka see kellele kaikaga sarvede vahele soovitas anda ära kasutab käsi hõõrudes.
Ja näe.. seda mis võivad olla osa naiste alged julges arvata kuid seda mis mehede (mitte meeste) alge on ei julge mõelda sest siis peaks paar tolli vaiksemaks võtma,
ja ehk isegi natuke abi küsima mõnelt preestrilt Ayuaska reiside vahel.
On vaja veel muid seeni ka juurde... peale siniste, vist eks ? Need sorti inimesed saavad taimedega jumala tarkustele ligi kuid siis soovivad arvata, et see neist endast ikka enamasti mis juhtuma paneb selle asemel, et aru saada, et me ümber pannakse juhutma vastavalt meile endale kui vaja, pigem.
Üksik inimesi jah.. saab ravida kuid mis lahendusi välja pakudja kuidas kultuuride ja inimeste säilitamiseks ja ravimiseks, tarkusele tõusmiseks, kes omavahel puntras ja vastuolus (ja kelle osade iga järgmine tarkuse aste on kellegi teise vastane, ja kellegi teise mitte tarkus)... et siis kes neid seadusi ja lahendusi peopesalt sooviks panna käiku ja lahendusse... sellel on lootust.
Kuid vähemalt mainis loodust ja selle olulisi taimi, see hea, palju maad parem kui suurem osi muid tarkasi. Kuigi.. jah, mida võimekam inimene seda karmim ma olen kriitika suhtes.
Ja ikka kindel, et osad meist linnud pole v? ... et kuidas seda saab teada... ja kui ei tea mida siis üldse tead?
Kuid seda on lihtne juhtuma heal teel olles, suurem osa mis rääkis mul isa ka veelgi ilmekamalt oskaks väljendada kuid see osa milles mööda paneb on just see mida ka see kellele kaikaga sarvede vahele soovitas anda ära kasutab käsi hõõrudes.
Ja näe.. seda mis võivad olla osa naiste alged julges arvata kuid seda mis mehede (mitte meeste) alge on ei julge mõelda sest siis peaks paar tolli vaiksemaks võtma,
ja ehk isegi natuke abi küsima mõnelt preestrilt Ayuaska reiside vahel.
On vaja veel muid seeni ka juurde... peale siniste, vist eks ? Need sorti inimesed saavad taimedega jumala tarkustele ligi kuid siis soovivad arvata, et see neist endast ikka enamasti mis juhtuma paneb selle asemel, et aru saada, et me ümber pannakse juhutma vastavalt meile endale kui vaja, pigem.
Üksik inimesi jah.. saab ravida kuid mis lahendusi välja pakudja kuidas kultuuride ja inimeste säilitamiseks ja ravimiseks, tarkusele tõusmiseks, kes omavahel puntras ja vastuolus (ja kelle osade iga järgmine tarkuse aste on kellegi teise vastane, ja kellegi teise mitte tarkus)... et siis kes neid seadusi ja lahendusi peopesalt sooviks panna käiku ja lahendusse... sellel on lootust.
Kuid vähemalt mainis loodust ja selle olulisi taimi, see hea, palju maad parem kui suurem osi muid tarkasi. Kuigi.. jah, mida võimekam inimene seda karmim ma olen kriitika suhtes.
Ja ikka kindel, et osad meist linnud pole v? ... et kuidas seda saab teada... ja kui ei tea mida siis üldse tead?
8 March 2015 16:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Urbi kohta võib küll öelda, et jobu ja ta ei tea päriselt keset. Ehk saan ta ka ära ravida mõnikord kui kokku saame, kui kaugelt ei saa
8 March 2015 14:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ära ole üleolev Naiste suhtes (kui ta ei tegele Naiste vastaste asjadega), Ta ikkagi Eesti Lipp ka
Kuid jah, loodan, et kui selgeks saab Kes naised on siis see asi, et aastas korra ainult on päev kus mehed naisele mõtlema peavad kui olulisele olendile.. ka möödub...
umbes nagu "black americans month" et suhtlume kuaega mustadesse inimlikult
Kuid jah, loodan, et kui selgeks saab Kes naised on siis see asi, et aastas korra ainult on päev kus mehed naisele mõtlema peavad kui olulisele olendile.. ka möödub...
umbes nagu "black americans month" et suhtlume kuaega mustadesse inimlikult
8 March 2015 14:05
Margus Meigo commented on Hallo, Kosmos!'s photo.
Nu loodetavasti siis selgub ka, kui kaua me maigutame nendel teemadel... ja lahendused ka sis kuidas toimetama hakkame, selliselt, et kõigile selgeks saaks kuidas on ja mida siis tegema hakkame.
8 March 2015 13:13
Margus Meigo commented on Merike Kalmet's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Muide, head Naistepäeva : )
(see päev tegelikult iga päev...)8 March 2015 03:02
Margus Meigo commented on Merike Kalmet's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ta selge sõnaga ise ju ütles, et "ma olengi ära kasutatud, PALUN kasutage mind ära, kui vähegi tunnete et ma riigi jaoks kasulik saan olla..." raadios, kui küsiti, et kas teda broilerina ei taheta kasutada, väga avalik ta selles ja ei teeskle poliitikut. Tal on palju suuremad ja vajalikumad tarkused, sest ega poliitika ei juhi riiki vaid inimlikus.
ega ülikoolis siis ei õpetata kuidas elu juhtida, seda õpetab elu kuidas inimesed toimivad ja mida vaja on. Koolis vast võidakse õpetada kuidas lühiajaliselt on rahaliselt kasulik selle asemel kuidas pikemas perspektiivis vaja on.
On ju ilmselge, et kui me veel 5000 aastat püsima tahame jääda väärtustega mis sinnamaani meid viivad, siis peaksime esimesest klassist saati lisaks programmeerimisele õpetama taime tarkust, lisaks sõja pidamisele maja ehitust (nende õhkulaskmise asemel), toidu kalorite infole lisaks mõista kuidas taimi kasvatada, võõrale raha saamise eesmärgil allumisele lisaks õpetada kuidas kasvatada lapsi selliselt, et nad vanemaid austaksid ning parimate meelelahutustega kursis olemisele lisaks mõtlema panna kuidas oma ligi kasuks meediat ja tehnoloogiat kasutada hea suunaliselt,
ja neid näited terve pikk list, palju
kuidas mehi hirmuga kuuletumisele lisaks õppida tundma mehe hinge ja siis temaga nagu inimesega suhtlema õpetada naisi ja süsteemi... jpms,
mida maire aunaste teab suures osas paremini kuidas need asjad toimima saada, kelle kaudu kui suurem osa lipsuga akadeemikuid (akadeemik vanas eesti keeles: eluvõõras), kuid seda juba ütlesin varem .
Lihtsalt ärritab kui hea südamega naine midagi soovib teha riigi heaks ja siis asutakse materdama, väga eba Kodumaine käitumine, lühinägelik ja mitte eriti rahvuslust ja naiselikust toetav. Pole vahet kus erakonnast keegi on, kui Sa näed, et oskad aidata kedagi siis võta vaevaks ja aita, (no hard feelings ) ...sedasi meid oma inimeste vastu keeratakse selle Rooma poliitika mänguga ja veel kõige kurvem on kui Naised suudetakse omavahel vastasseisu panna kes seda ise meelega pole isegi välja toonud, provotseerides või salvates.
Pealegi naiste ajastu tulemas, õnneks.8 March 2015 03:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
8 March 2015 01:53
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis van Kaldalu's post.
Group: Viimane Erakond
Aa oeh, nu siis hea.
Oleks ma seda teadnud. Kuid noh.. ega nad süsteemi sisse ikka ei kanna, oleks hea kui vähemalt võimaluski, ennast süsteemi sisse kanda, et kelle poolt hääletasid, sellel nii mitu head kasutamise võimalust.7 March 2015 19:30
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
kui teil päris strateegilise meedia sõja vastu kembelda on vaja ametlikult siis võin veel soovitusi anda, kuid noh, siis teil vaja vahelduva eduga iga päev vähemalt 2-3 töötajat, ... üks saaks ka hakkama, kuid siis muutuks töö juba painavaks kurnavaks kohustuseks mitte mõnuks ja heaolu tegevuseks7 March 2015 14:02
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
seda kindlasti, ja loodetavasti andsite head materali mis mõtted selgeks kapol teeb7 March 2015 14:00
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
elementaarne, arvan et teete seda nagunii kuid lihtsalt, kordan igaks juhuks7 March 2015 13:59
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
tel vaja ekraani pilte thea ajutiselt kommidest ja salvestada seda materiali nii palju kui võimalik , et teil endal ka koopia oleks7 March 2015 13:59
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Põllumägi's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
vabalt jõuate vastata, 7000 inimest, camoon, ja vastake nii kõrgelt ja konkreetselt + ilusasti kui vaja7 March 2015 13:55
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Põllumägi's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Just eile kirjutasin siin rukilillest ja saksamaast ja juba delfis üleval, kiirelt toimetavad posid :p
mitte, et nad siit asju vaataks..7 March 2015 13:45
Margus Meigo commented on Merike Kalmet's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Lolliks annab teha mitte tarkade silmas keda iganes, aru aga saada kes tark on, see vajab omamoodi tarkust7 March 2015 13:43
Margus Meigo commented on Merike Kalmet's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ilma igasuguse kahtluseta teab ta nii poliitikast kui ka elust rohkem kui enamus inimesed kes väike erakondades on, ja see pole isegi mitte liialdus vaid loogiline järeldus,
seega võiks moka maha hoida siin, muidu jätate endast mitte eriti targa mulje.
Kui talle õige võimalus anda siis tema tarkused elu ja ülemise klassi suhtes, kõik need keda ta isiklikult teab ja mida nende kohta teab isiklikult, see pagas on nagu kindlasti suurem kui suurem kui enamusel meist.
Kobiseksite samamoodi kui ta EKRE s oleks ?7 March 2015 13:41
Margus Meigo commented on Merike Kalmet's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
nu mis sellel aunastel viga siis on ?
Tundub nagu pahade vaadetega elust ebatark inimene olema te arvates v??7 March 2015 13:39
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Põllumägi's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Mis Eestlaste laud see on, cocola laua peal plast pudelites ka veel.. camoon.. camoon.. moraali ja tase ika peab hoidma igas mõttes7 March 2015 13:37
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's post.
yes that what i sayd :p
7 March 2015 13:21
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's post.
not your style, but one dearest person in my life made onece her first juwlery company and here is some reminds of that: https://www.facebook.com/MaikeniEhtedHandmadeJewelry/photos_stream
facebook.com
Maikeni Ehted
7 March 2015 13:18
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's post.
Looks really nice
7 March 2015 13:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Saate lõpp võeti kokku prof analüütikute poolt sedasi "me oleks rahul millise iganes koalitsiooniga mida reform teeb, kõikide variantidega, senikaua kui EKRE ei ole üheski nendest"
Võimas
Ei see kuldne saade, mida tasub järgi kuulata, öelge, et te EKREst ja vaadake kas saate järelkuulamise linki. Ma ei tea, vast neil kodulehekülg ka.
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Ja enne seda mainisid anormaalses saates ka Eesti iidseid, 5-8 tuhande aasta taguseid Soome-Ugri juuri (Vigala Sass neist rääkinud, kuid noh... tõde on veel sügavam..)
ja para võimetest kõik sugustest hinge maailmadest... kuid "unustasid" mainida, et meil Eestis olemas maailma kõige tasemel taimed, looduslikult, mis saab tavalise inimese teadlikuks ja kontakti TURVALISELT, ilma musta maagiata (mille, mustamaagia raamatut ta pidi mainima, hoiatusega kui ohtlik see on sest nende sala märkide kaudu mis selles raamatus on saad otse suurvõimu ja teistele teha mida tahad... enamasti need märgid muidugi lihtsalt avavad inimese vaba valiku kaudu tee teistele olenditele teha mida nad tahavad siin ja siis inimene ise maksab oma perekonna järglastega.. et suurem osa ise päris maagideks ei õpi, võluriteks st, kes püha vaimu kaudu maailmu liigutada saab ja aegasi... sest see oleks liialt vabadus ja selgus).
Mul tuttavaid ka venemaal nendes para koolides käib mis inimesi vaimu ohvriteks ja näiliselt selle maailma mõjutuseks treenib, kõrgel tasemel, nagu mustade võlurite armeed.
Mitte nagu väike suva guru vaid nagu riiklik teema.7 March 2015 11:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
rahvaAdvokaat@tallinatv.ee arvamusi nad küsivad, ja kes see tegelane selle punase tooli peal sääl on ???7 March 2015 11:32
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's note.
Sounds true
7 March 2015 05:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
ja karu, sai kohe asjast aru .p
pumpumm :p
pumpumm :p
7 March 2015 05:13
Margus Meigo commented on Kaino Voolmaa's post.
Me in anotherhand, will give full access to all my data, and files and private talks to use any good that any party seems fit
7 March 2015 05:11
Margus Meigo commented on Margus Reemets's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
igast inimeste pilte ka, kuid need poel nii huvitavad:
http://cdn.earthporm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/annie-the-owl-visits-london-pop-up-bar-9.jpghttp://cdn.earthporm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/annie-the-owl-visits-london-pop-up-bar-9.jpg
7 March 2015 03:53
Margus Meigo commented on Margus Reemets's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Mis mõttes, kas see on reaalne pilt v? : )
Wau.. öö kull on teemaks olnud viimasel ajal, ma ise ka kullimaalt osaliselt :p
http://cdn.earthporm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/ingo-else-dog-owl-friendship-tanja-brandt-4.jpg
http://www.earthporm.com/the-unlikely-sweet-friendship-of-a-dog-and-an-owl/http://cdn.earthporm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/ingo-else-dog-owl-friendship-tanja-brandt-4.jpg
7 March 2015 03:51
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
It is long time ago the link is spiritual.
Also the link is that plant chnages ur additudes and brain working in a way that harmful thinking that allows wrong "energy", beings, life stiles to access you will be repleaced with healthyer versions
in most users
Also the link is that plant chnages ur additudes and brain working in a way that harmful thinking that allows wrong "energy", beings, life stiles to access you will be repleaced with healthyer versions
in most users
7 March 2015 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS)'s link.
Yes, it worked!
6 March 2015 20:32
Margus Meigo commented on Shayna Raichilson-Zadok's post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
Thank you, this is great! Matriarchy was the original God order before any other, as it is natural6 March 2015 20:28
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Quesada's post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
the first and the third is more natural6 March 2015 20:27
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Quesada's post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
if that is true, why it is not eliminated in instant, as it is possible6 March 2015 20:21
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Quesada's post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
can not say if that is for real or campaign against Islam but that is really really messed up
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-releases-abhorrent-sex-slaves-pamphlet-with-27-tips-for-militants-on-taking-punishing-and-raping-female-captives-9915913.html?origin=internalSearchhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-releases-abhorrent-sex-slaves-pamphlet-with-27-tips-for-militants-on-taking-punishing-and-raping-female-captives-9915913.html?origin=internalSearch
6 March 2015 20:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
and the entire world will be , if they want to stay alive, in Matriarchy, this is only direction we can evolve (another one will be given machine reproduction but they will go and die out with their species )6 March 2015 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Quesada's post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
what about this sex teenagers sale to old male in Norway, as new hype, (not for money.. it is just popular new thing to do)
and what about the animal rape law that was just fixed few years ago, before that was legal IN LAW to rape animals and video tape it and sale in normal porn shop, can you imagine
yes gongo... but what we our self do... there is many level of wrongs we have to fix here or we not ever be able to fix kongo as they will looks us like aliens who know nothing about basic life
like most people in there i heard buy froze pizza, this Also, is a big issue
and that child protection services have serious cases i think against more then 20% or Norwegians..what is up with that6 March 2015 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Quesada's post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
other way they should be executed in instant, but ... there is much more spiritual things involved here.. ..spirit plants.. spirit plants.. spirit plants..6 March 2015 19:59
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Quesada's post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
life in prison in minimum food, to keep spirit trap in body and not being strong enough to make other kind of harm... and to feed him spirit plants also... that make them confess and feel... as this is they afraid most.. feeling.. they have rooted it out from them self... but there is plants that can make them so.. so they can feel what they have done to others.. in many literal ways..6 March 2015 19:53
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Quesada's post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
BUt why to even make trial for these kind of spirits...
You can see from a guy face this is "from another dimension" ...
that kind of light burning in a eye in this face type you know there is another spirit in him that is not of a human world,
So to kill them the spirit go to another body ,.. spirit not afraid to lose
but there should be some shamanic witch doctors who should be handed this person so they can go deep under the skin, with special plants...and THEN there.. the hell can be felt..
these kind of people little afraid death, only thing they might think maybe they not get a new body so fast.. but they "boss" cares little... as the message what for was used them.. is delivered6 March 2015 19:52
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Quesada's post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
THis is also bad promotion to make women more retarded in a wya that they will distance them self from house work and cooking skills,
Women really CAN NOT be a mentally grown up women if one does not care about cleaning or cooking, this is just a fact, normal women should and is loving all that, as home is Her main kingdom, for these women who are happy.
Maybe some live in apartments and not so lucky, to have the feeling, but even in there one should NEWER feel strange about basic. That comes with being of being in this earth.
This against home work promotions come from already greek-roman times and is up to now , they have tried every trick in book, to separate women from home to make women a slave, and dependable by male system (as if one not knowing how to keep a home, then one is hopelessly lost, to be slave of a system, even if she has a servants )
Matriarchy is about bringing back us to ancient power of female, where she know all the nature, home and man secrets... to be a Godhead She is.6 March 2015 19:45
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Quesada's post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
there is something deeply wrong with it but also, it is even more wrong to stop these kind of things with out deeply going in to another culture and religion to find out metaphysics about it. .
As there has been some strange deep reasons, like they think in some parts, that before change the sexual organs are not spiritually proper female and male.
For un spiritual people that sounds reticulas but there might be some higher reasons we need to look in to offer proper help.
Like you will be more in tune with your parallel worlds and afterlife etc6 March 2015 19:35
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Quesada's post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
much more strange in a way is when women in here are morally not allowed to wear this protective clothing,
more people should tune in to it regardless of religion as it does give another freedom to women, many freedoms
oh.. and nudist can feel kind of like naked on streets with that as well .P6 March 2015 19:32
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Quesada's post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
Seems the topic makes fun to these man6 March 2015 19:30
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Masing's post.
Group: Viimane Erakond
Et sutsu siis, ise juba ammu pole kanepi ligi olnud, kuid nii soovin et oleks resurssi, saaks oma venna suitsu ja ema liha ning teleka sõltlusest lahti,.
kuid nagu sooviks seda salvi, puhta õli salvi,
sest suitsetamise komme nagunii midagi millest vaja lahti saada inimestel (ja tehes kanepit koos nikotiiniga ... see kombinatsioon on lihtsalt enamasti kurb.... kuigi arvasin, et ehk see kunagi iidsete ameeriklaste plaan, et suitsu kaudu meid sõltususse ja siis kanep järgmisena ja nii saamegi targaks.. kuid paljud ei ole ka saanud, sest unustatakse Jumalalt küsida mida seekord taimelt soovib ja siis veelgi tihedamini unustatakse paika panna ja prakiliselt selle kallal tööd tegema, mis "tripis" anti, sest ega see mingi niisama chillimiseks pole mõeldu...tõsine taim...)
(okey, erandeid on ka chillimise osas, ...vähegi ajudega inimese aju käivitatakse nagunii õiges suunas seda kasutades ja taimütleb, et nüüd mine õuet puhastama või vanaema aitama... ... kuid Sillicon Valley mehed ütlesid, et paljud neist Kanepist enam nii palju ei hooli, et puhtalt LSD ainult)6 March 2015 17:49
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Masing's post.
Group: Viimane Erakond
Raivo ära ole nii karm, asi selles, et kanep aitab fokuseerida läbi vaimu maailma kogu tähelepanu teatud hetkedele ja neid veel tunnetega siduda (ja emotsioonidega vahest) ,
seega on normaalne kui inimene näeb, et see on kõige olulisem asi mida kogu maailmal vaja, sest just nii saab seda ka näha kui oled suuremaid puhtamaid kogmusi saanud kanepist ja loed sinna juurde veel mis moodi selle osa vastu looduses on võideldud, kuid tegu pole ainult kanepis, vaid selles milleni see kanep viia saab,
ta saab viia teiste taimedeni ja jumala läheduseni... ja see juba Rooma süsteemiga kus elame kokku ei lähe.
Muidugi kõige lõpus ainuke asi mida kanep teeb on saab tähelepanu juhtida oluliste asjade olulisusele, mis on kõige vajalikumad, ja need on praktilised oskused nagu palkamaja ehitamine, laulude tegemine, laste kasvatus, kaasinimeste ja riigi aitamine ja inimeste mõistmine,.
see eelkõige ikka hingeline, intelligentsi ravim (kuid ravib ka keha, kuigi ka seda enamasti läbi aju)
ja seega ei saa kanep olla lõpp sihtpunk , olen ise ka selles kohas olnud ja küll tagasi sinna veel lähen, avastasin lihtsalt vahepeal veel seened, religiooni ja naise armastuse
mis näitas, et veelgi suuremaid ja võimsamaid reaalsusi on siin ilmas olemas, mida veelgi usinamalt maha surutakse.
Kanep kui seda õigesti kasutada on hea, kui õppida eri tüübid, vaimu maailm ja kuidas ja miks.. kuid kui seda rutiinselt ära kasutama hakata, siis ta paneb sind ringi sisse, mille sees küll tunned ennast targa ja õnnelikuna kuid mis sind saab ka eemaldada päris perekonna suhetest ja plajust muust... seega kes kivis, kes pilves.. oluline ikka meelde jätta, et selle vaimu taime poole AINULT selleks mõtekas pöörduda, et elu paremaks teha ja need asjad käiku panna mida Sulle taime kaudu vaimumaailmast jagatakse.
.... ideaalis seda suitsetama üldse ei peaks, ja nikotiiniga AMMUGI ei tohi, sest siis ta lukustabsind suht kindlasti, väiksemasse reaalsusesse mis võib hakata peagi kanda hõõruma, kuid olles tarkuse ravimi all me alandlikuse asemel miskit muud endas hoida eksitusega võime ja siis ei suuda haakuda kõige muu olulisega, mis siin praktilises maailmas tundub, et ikkagi on vaja ka ära teha
(kanepi nimi on "vaese mehe taevas" rahva keeli
(kärbseseen on "tee salajaste tõdede juurde" ja teravpaljak "tarkusekivi") )
kanap aitab ka õigesti kasutades erootika ja naistega kudi just selle osa ta Sinult ka ära röövib kiirelt, kui sa hakkad taimele rohkem mõtlema ja tähelepanu pöörama kui naisele kes on Päris Elutarkuse ja Vee allikas.6 March 2015 17:46
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis van Kaldalu's post.
Group: Viimane Erakond
Ei ole midagi lihtsamat, kui thea e hääletus kõige avalikumaksja ausamaks hääletuseks... milleks kyll sellega viivitatakse..
sest kui see kinni pannakse.. tähendab kogu maailmas siis see e hääletus jääb ära tulevikus ja siis vanaviisi aetakse sahkermahkerit, salajaste hääletustega kus igaüks teoorias saab mis iganes hääli välja imeda.
Lisaks peaks inimene veel eksami ka sooritama enne valimistele pääsemist6 March 2015 17:31
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis van Kaldalu's post.
Group: Viimane Erakond
Aga kas need kus isikukoodikirjutadjuurde, kuulutatkse kehtetuks siis v?
Ma nagu esimest korda käisin hääletamas ja siis imestasin, vaatasin seda paberilipakat ühet ja teiselt poolt ja nagu tahtsin küsida, "et see ongi kõik v"6 March 2015 17:29
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Viimane Erakond
saatsin kirja ka valimiskomisionile, et kas neil on minu kohta mõnda teatavat kehtivat dokumenti mis andmebaasis on millega ma oleks saanud valimisel olla, sest ma kirjas ju kui valisin...
ootan veel vastust, igaksjuhuks paarile agentuurile ja politseile ka saatsin.6 March 2015 17:28
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Viimane Erakond
Ma kakskorda kehtetu van leitud ID kaardiga käisin hääletamas, toimis.6 March 2015 17:26
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis van Kaldalu's post.
Group: Viimane Erakond
Selle pärast peakski ka selle nime kirjutama kelle poolt hääletad, see väga keeruline ei saa olla ju, eriti kuna see list on ees.
Lisaks võiks veel oma dokumendi number ka sedelil olla, ma küll toetaks seda kui ma saaks kindel olla, et minu hääl kindlas kohas on, mitte eraldi mu allkirjast kuskil karbis.
kus teoorias võib igaüks mis iganes karbi vastu need asjad ära vahetada (praktikas muidugi mitte... kuid noh.. see kord nelja aasta jooksul võib ju vaeva oma riigi jaoks rohkem näha kui kolme numbri kirjutamin)
Muidugi, inimesed näevad tööl orjates ja makse makstes peaaegu iga päev vaeva lastekasvatuse vahel, kuid kuidagi tähtsam ja asjalikum võiks see valimine küll olla, et usaldust rohkem tekiks6 March 2015 17:22
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis van Kaldalu's post.
Group: Viimane Erakond
Äitah!6 March 2015 17:16
Margus Meigo commented on Kristina Argel's post.
Mis see yx sexib seina v?
6 March 2015 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on Änti Kreem's post.
Group: Human Design Eesti - Inimese Disaini süsteem
Kas selle maya kalendrite systeemidega ka kuidagi ühendanud oled ?6 March 2015 16:14
Margus Meigo commented on Änti Kreem's post.
Group: Human Design Eesti - Inimese Disaini süsteem
väga mehaaniline6 March 2015 11:24
Margus Meigo commented on Liza Rudina's photo.
is that, Amsterdam ?
6 March 2015 10:40
Margus Meigo commented on Teet Kalmus's post.
valus
6 March 2015 10:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sad loss, but this just makes me want to help them more, as how is possible.. that with so long time, Roma is not able to protect ones views on higher level then this... unless this is plan.. but if it is, that would make then ..
So rather hope for good, as this meal what they take on they will make them self to eat, and i can help to serve it well
So rather hope for good, as this meal what they take on they will make them self to eat, and i can help to serve it well
6 March 2015 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja see pole mingi ime kui Uute Valimiste nõudmine väga suureks lastakse paisuda, sest selleks eeltööd palju tehtud. Kui ei tehta uusi on võit (sest siis saab rääkida "kui oleks" ja "ega nad ei julgenud" ja "nu jah vabaduse vastane koostöö" jms) kuid, kui tehakse on ka võit kaotajate südametes.
ning kogu see "valija privaatsuse" soovi pärast, (miks vaja SALAJA hääletada? See olgi ju SEE läbi mille siiani on maailmas asjad logisenud... Eesti saaks seda kogu maailmas muuta, sellepärast ka siin suuremad huvid mängus.. et need süsteemid ebaotstarbekaks kuulutataks.)
nüüd hea öelda, et ega Sa tõestada ei saa kes kuidas hääletas...
ja tõestades paar viga millest osasi aidanud tekitada, ... saab kui mitte valimised uuesti nõuda siis vähemalt rahvale vimma südamesse istutada... ja see juba riigi õõnestamiseks on ka oluline samm.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MuaK_JgpB0BXz1ajt1TzC-LKZ75BM99z6MsVrPWgFRs/edit
ning kogu see "valija privaatsuse" soovi pärast, (miks vaja SALAJA hääletada? See olgi ju SEE läbi mille siiani on maailmas asjad logisenud... Eesti saaks seda kogu maailmas muuta, sellepärast ka siin suuremad huvid mängus.. et need süsteemid ebaotstarbekaks kuulutataks.)
nüüd hea öelda, et ega Sa tõestada ei saa kes kuidas hääletas...
ja tõestades paar viga millest osasi aidanud tekitada, ... saab kui mitte valimised uuesti nõuda siis vähemalt rahvale vimma südamesse istutada... ja see juba riigi õõnestamiseks on ka oluline samm.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MuaK_JgpB0BXz1ajt1TzC-LKZ75BM99z6MsVrPWgFRs/edit
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MuaK_JgpB0BXz1ajt1TzC-LKZ75BM99z6MsVrPWgFRs/edit
5 March 2015 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on Hele Kängsepp's post.
Group: Uute Poliitikute Kool
Õige ka mis nad ikka hakkavad koperdama sinna jaoskonna järjekorda5 March 2015 21:27
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's link.
Keskerakonnal suur võimalus veel valituseliidrks tulla kuid see isegi pole päris idee neil, idee on suuremal osal, siin maalastest mõru maik riigi vastu suhu panna
5 March 2015 20:41
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Uute Poliitikute Kool
Elektroniline hääletus kõi õigesti teha, on veel viimane vabaduse niit inimkonnal hääletuste osas, just selle pärast seda propat selle vastu tehakse, et siis nad eisaaks enam mis iganes moodi ise sovivad neid hääletusi suunatanagu siiani vene ajast saati thetud on.5 March 2015 19:15
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Uute Poliitikute Kool
Nu ma ütleks, et paberhääletus on kõige mõtetum, käisin ise just üle 5 aasta kehtetu vana dokumendiga hääletamas, oleks linnas olnud oleks võinud ka kes iganes mu kaardiga hääletamas käia ja mingit teadmist ega jälge sellest maha ei jää.
Ükskord usas ollas kui tagasi tulin, siis ka avastati mind mingi x vene erakonna listist kellest ma kuulnud isegi polnud.5 March 2015 19:14
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
Group: Uute Poliitikute Kool
Kunagised varasemad agenda 21 soovid näisid päris head, soovisid nende arvates mõtetud inimesed kokku lükata ja looduse suures osas ameerikas loodusele tagasi anda5 March 2015 19:12
Margus Meigo commented on Hele Kängsepp's post.
Group: Uute Poliitikute Kool
See tuleb lõpetada, isegi venemaa on suutnud oma riigi võla 7% ringis hoida (enamus suurriikidel 50-70% ), see häbiplekk kui ennast selle lõnga otsa laseme võtta.5 March 2015 19:11
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's link.
Jürka, aga ta ei näita miskit audio linki mul sääl :(
5 March 2015 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's link.
Kui siis rohelised rääkisid siin vajalikke asju, kuigi jah, ERKE ka.. kuid nagu .. päris suurelt, reaalselt ei kuulnud, et keegi oleks julgenud rääkida sellest mis PÄRISELT oluline on nagu Usk ja Shamanism, Naise armastus ja taime toit, sest anult läbi nende saab meil olema võimalus liigina ellu jääda, kõik muu "oluline" on ajutine Greeka-Rooma pudru ja kapsad, ajutised väikesed probleemid mis on eelneva nelja asja puudulikult arusaamise tagajärg.
Kui päris ausalt vaadata, siis võib ka vaadata pensioni kui inimeste vastast halba asja mis tuleks ära kunagi lõpetada selliselt, sest see on puhas orja sotsalism, et orjad firmat ja siis firmalt saad surmani midagi oma elu talle andmise eest, selle asemel, et inimest iseseisvaks, usklikuksja loodus targaks kasvatada.
NIng see, et igasuguseid arvamusi võetakse olenematta sellest kas nad on tõesed, headja ausad võrdsetena meedias on ka arulage. Vaadatakse ainut 4-10 aasta piires.. mis on aga täiesti narri mängimine, tuleb alati miinimum mitme inimsoo pikkuselt vaadata, et millised ned asjad on mis kõige pikemas perspektiivis on olulised ja siis nendega alustada, kõik muu selle ümber on lisa, ajutine vajalikus olenevalt ilmale.
Kui päris ausalt vaadata, siis võib ka vaadata pensioni kui inimeste vastast halba asja mis tuleks ära kunagi lõpetada selliselt, sest see on puhas orja sotsalism, et orjad firmat ja siis firmalt saad surmani midagi oma elu talle andmise eest, selle asemel, et inimest iseseisvaks, usklikuksja loodus targaks kasvatada.
NIng see, et igasuguseid arvamusi võetakse olenematta sellest kas nad on tõesed, headja ausad võrdsetena meedias on ka arulage. Vaadatakse ainut 4-10 aasta piires.. mis on aga täiesti narri mängimine, tuleb alati miinimum mitme inimsoo pikkuselt vaadata, et millised ned asjad on mis kõige pikemas perspektiivis on olulised ja siis nendega alustada, kõik muu selle ümber on lisa, ajutine vajalikus olenevalt ilmale.
5 March 2015 18:26
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's link.
Oluline on EKRE "toetajate" läbi maine nii läbi teha, nii lapselikuks ja koerlikuks, et keegi seda näpuga ka torkida ei tahaks ning, et kindlalt laguneks järgmiste valimiste aegas, sest need kommentaarid ja "arvamused" on kõik ära salvestatud nagu kellegi 5 aasta tagused positused, et siis kasutada millises iganes loovas formaadis, selliselt, et inimestel tekiks häbi, kui toetavad avalikult, umbes nagu suurem osa keskerakonna toetajaid on häbis ja häbenevad kui teada saadakse, et nad keskast,
lausa valetatakse, et "ma ei toeta" ja siis salaja hääletatakse... või siis veel oma grupp kes hirmu pärast toetavad, et vallutuse aeg ellu jääda ja siis salaja hääletavad kellegi teise poolt.
Ma ise tean inimesi, kes mulle öelnud, et kõik kes Keska listis on, on "Listis" mis nad ja nende perekonna peaks ära päästma ülevõtu aeg, turva listis, et see tark liigutus küüdituse eel, ... kujuta ette, hirmu pärast hääletatakse Keska poolt vahest, et siis elama jääda ??
Täitsa valus millise illusiooni nad suutnud luua on.
muidu listid loomulikult on olemas, igasuguste eri arvamustega inimeste ja muude kasulike gruppide osas (ja strateegia mis kelele kuidas sobib, aasta tuhande pikkune analüüs), CV online andmebaasi mille venemaale müüsime aitab ka head süvaanalüüsi teha mis paar põlve peaks aitama head strateegilist eelist, sest ikka väga targad inimesed analüüsivad seda kõike..
lausa valetatakse, et "ma ei toeta" ja siis salaja hääletatakse... või siis veel oma grupp kes hirmu pärast toetavad, et vallutuse aeg ellu jääda ja siis salaja hääletavad kellegi teise poolt.
Ma ise tean inimesi, kes mulle öelnud, et kõik kes Keska listis on, on "Listis" mis nad ja nende perekonna peaks ära päästma ülevõtu aeg, turva listis, et see tark liigutus küüdituse eel, ... kujuta ette, hirmu pärast hääletatakse Keska poolt vahest, et siis elama jääda ??
Täitsa valus millise illusiooni nad suutnud luua on.
muidu listid loomulikult on olemas, igasuguste eri arvamustega inimeste ja muude kasulike gruppide osas (ja strateegia mis kelele kuidas sobib, aasta tuhande pikkune analüüs), CV online andmebaasi mille venemaale müüsime aitab ka head süvaanalüüsi teha mis paar põlve peaks aitama head strateegilist eelist, sest ikka väga targad inimesed analüüsivad seda kõike..
5 March 2015 17:56
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's link.
elan veel sutsu välja ennast.
Mõni jausa uskuma jäänud, et kapitalistid ja kommunistid kuidagi nagu oleks eraldi süsteem ja lausa erialdi, vastas pooled, nu see on ju võimatu,kuidas nad eraldi pooled saavad olla.
See umbes sama kas telekas on atenni või digitaal - kuigi väliselt väga suur erinevus ja potensiaal siis programm ja mõte miks programm tuleb on ikka täpselt üks ja ei sõltu sellest kas tegu on kapitalisti või kommunistiga orjapidajate silmis,
oluline on mis iganes hinnaga inimesed loodus võõraks teha, suhted sassi ajada, võitlusvaime ja vastaspooli luua, morraal ja käitumine hävitada... et siis inimene muutuks ise enesest saamatuks, orjaks kes PEAB süsteemi küljes olema, eriti kui inimvahelised suhted, perevahelised suhted ja naise mehe vahelised suhted on rikutud siis kindel hea ori olemas kes suuretöenäosusega ühest süsteemi uksest sisse läheb, sama peremehe juurde tagasi, et abi saada (olrgu see siis viina pudel või New age teraapia klubi)
... nagu linnas, mis juhtub kui "süsteem" otsustaks juhtme välja tõmmata ja mitte enam elektrit jagada? Ja mida kõike veel alates kempsust ja prügiveost inimestel poleks ja mille ladustamise või korraldamise osas suurem osa inimestel 0 arusaam on. Mida siis teha kui võõrvõim sinu tagumikku enam ei pühi.
Päris maa inimesel, kes päriselt iseseisev on sab kenasti elatud kui kuuks ajaks vool välja võtta, vähemalt mass katastroofi ei teki.
Praegused inimesed aga ennast kõik juhtme külge pannud ilma, et nad vaevuks kasvõi siis õppima loodust ja loodus taimi.. .aga selle asemel minnakse selveri apteegist ostma kraami mida soovitatakse ja süüakse kahesuupoolega toitu mis tervist kuidagi ei arenda ega vaimu ei teranda.
Käidakse kass ketiotsas pargis jalutamas paar korda nädalas ja siis arvatakse, et ongi loodus lähedane. See kellest me tulime. See ainuke kes meid tegelt elus hoiab ja see kellest meid massiliselt eemaldatakse.
Inglismaal küsisin, ja siis inimesed ei teadnud milline vahtrapuu leht isegi on (see üks tihedamaid puid neil linnas) .. küsiti, et "milleks sellist infot veel teada peaks tava inimesel vaja olema???", suure imestusega
Mõni jausa uskuma jäänud, et kapitalistid ja kommunistid kuidagi nagu oleks eraldi süsteem ja lausa erialdi, vastas pooled, nu see on ju võimatu,kuidas nad eraldi pooled saavad olla.
See umbes sama kas telekas on atenni või digitaal - kuigi väliselt väga suur erinevus ja potensiaal siis programm ja mõte miks programm tuleb on ikka täpselt üks ja ei sõltu sellest kas tegu on kapitalisti või kommunistiga orjapidajate silmis,
oluline on mis iganes hinnaga inimesed loodus võõraks teha, suhted sassi ajada, võitlusvaime ja vastaspooli luua, morraal ja käitumine hävitada... et siis inimene muutuks ise enesest saamatuks, orjaks kes PEAB süsteemi küljes olema, eriti kui inimvahelised suhted, perevahelised suhted ja naise mehe vahelised suhted on rikutud siis kindel hea ori olemas kes suuretöenäosusega ühest süsteemi uksest sisse läheb, sama peremehe juurde tagasi, et abi saada (olrgu see siis viina pudel või New age teraapia klubi)
... nagu linnas, mis juhtub kui "süsteem" otsustaks juhtme välja tõmmata ja mitte enam elektrit jagada? Ja mida kõike veel alates kempsust ja prügiveost inimestel poleks ja mille ladustamise või korraldamise osas suurem osa inimestel 0 arusaam on. Mida siis teha kui võõrvõim sinu tagumikku enam ei pühi.
Päris maa inimesel, kes päriselt iseseisev on sab kenasti elatud kui kuuks ajaks vool välja võtta, vähemalt mass katastroofi ei teki.
Praegused inimesed aga ennast kõik juhtme külge pannud ilma, et nad vaevuks kasvõi siis õppima loodust ja loodus taimi.. .aga selle asemel minnakse selveri apteegist ostma kraami mida soovitatakse ja süüakse kahesuupoolega toitu mis tervist kuidagi ei arenda ega vaimu ei teranda.
Käidakse kass ketiotsas pargis jalutamas paar korda nädalas ja siis arvatakse, et ongi loodus lähedane. See kellest me tulime. See ainuke kes meid tegelt elus hoiab ja see kellest meid massiliselt eemaldatakse.
Inglismaal küsisin, ja siis inimesed ei teadnud milline vahtrapuu leht isegi on (see üks tihedamaid puid neil linnas) .. küsiti, et "milleks sellist infot veel teada peaks tava inimesel vaja olema???", suure imestusega
5 March 2015 17:47
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's link.
Juudid on need kõige õigemad, (lisaks iidsetele loodus rahvastele)
kuid muidugi suurem osa nii pimestatud kapitalistlikutest Greeka-Rooma kommunistikute orjasüsteemide haarangust, et usuvad juudid ka olema need kellel pole habet ollagi ja kannab lipsu.
kuid muidugi suurem osa nii pimestatud kapitalistlikutest Greeka-Rooma kommunistikute orjasüsteemide haarangust, et usuvad juudid ka olema need kellel pole habet ollagi ja kannab lipsu.
5 March 2015 17:31
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's link.
Muideks nagu see pole sedasi viisakas Suurisade kallal klähvida ja siis loota, et nad tahaksid koostööd teha. Lihtne näha mis mulje sellest jäätakse.
Nagu meelega käru keeramine käib, mis toimub?
Tuleb ikka olla täiskasvanulik ja esinduslik heas mõttes, saab olla karm ja radikaalne aga mitte sedasi, et "kui sa kätte ei anna siis oled lits" suhtumine, hapud vinamarjad. Ikka vanemad inimesed kellel juba habe kasvab mühinal peaks rääkima nii olulise pundi eest kui konservatiivid.
Nagu meelega käru keeramine käib, mis toimub?
Tuleb ikka olla täiskasvanulik ja esinduslik heas mõttes, saab olla karm ja radikaalne aga mitte sedasi, et "kui sa kätte ei anna siis oled lits" suhtumine, hapud vinamarjad. Ikka vanemad inimesed kellel juba habe kasvab mühinal peaks rääkima nii olulise pundi eest kui konservatiivid.
5 March 2015 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's link.
Oih,, ups, kõigil ei olnutki lipsu ees : )
5 March 2015 17:19
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's link.
Lipsud ees ja siis vehitakse tarka juttu, nu tegelt võtad märja lapi ja virutaks kõigile kolmele ühe hooda äratuseks natukene,
nagu ajalugu pole õppinud ja aru saanud veel, milleks lipsud ja mida see promob.
Isegi me president saab ilma lipsuta hakkama, moepärast kannab nalja lipsu... ja siis meie siin nagu kapitalistliku kommunisti jooksupoisid sirgelt lipsud reas.
Pole nagu arusaadav või miks just SEE mood oli lubatud viisnurga süsteemi poolt ja seda lausa promoti, kuid muu esinduslik riietus trambiti jalge alla välja naerdes
nagu ajalugu pole õppinud ja aru saanud veel, milleks lipsud ja mida see promob.
Isegi me president saab ilma lipsuta hakkama, moepärast kannab nalja lipsu... ja siis meie siin nagu kapitalistliku kommunisti jooksupoisid sirgelt lipsud reas.
Pole nagu arusaadav või miks just SEE mood oli lubatud viisnurga süsteemi poolt ja seda lausa promoti, kuid muu esinduslik riietus trambiti jalge alla välja naerdes
5 March 2015 17:18
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's link.
Kas sa selle loo lingi ka kuskilt leiad, ei jäänud silma netist, kas on linki kellegil ?
5 March 2015 17:15
Margus Meigo replied to Maris Anton's comment.
Kuidas leiti, kus oli ja mis juhtus, ka oluline jagada siin, muidu nagu inimestel jääb siin kummitama, et milleks kõike seda vaja oli.
5 March 2015 17:06
Margus Meigo commented on Jüri Böhm's post.
Paljude arvates ei olegi surt vahet kas kommunist või rahvuslane
5 March 2015 15:28
Margus Meigo commented on Kim Marcussen's photo.
i guess i like that but what are examles to its useufulness compared to magic plants?
5 March 2015 01:12
Margus Meigo commented on Padu Kadu's post.
Group: Poliitikast ja elust - Arutleme vabalt
Tereve telemeedia, moed, ja poe kaubad on PAKSULT täis kommunismi ja ka meie enda Eesti Rahava käitumine alates suitsetamisest kuni joomisest lihtsalt purju joomise pärast (see võõras vallutajate komme, et lolle paremini valitseda)... ja siis me siin kurdame ja imestame riigikogu üle, endal meil viisnurk kuklas pidevalt olnud ja aina rohkem mööda kolma ihub.5 March 2015 01:10
Margus Meigo commented on Michael Dickinson's post.
Now there is entire internet full of manifestos
5 March 2015 01:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Is thailand the land that is a bit far away from us, not really ordinary to confuse UK parties with thailand ones, what is going on :D
5 March 2015 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's photo.
Ta täna rääkis ETVs sellest jah, arvasin, et juba toimumas
4 March 2015 20:14
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's photo.
Kellegil siis bootleegi on sellest esinemisest? :D
4 March 2015 20:04
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's photo.
Ta naljad jah suht keskpärased muidu olnud kui ennast harjutanud Bill Hicki ja Georgi Carlininga... eriti Billi
4 March 2015 20:04
Margus Meigo commented on Kandit Xivivadh's photo.
surma lennukid (sõja omad) koos surma märgistusega... kuid mis see teine märk on ?
4 March 2015 19:56
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
he is pretty good, like daily show in early days but almost better , for sure
also great weapon
also great weapon
4 March 2015 04:52
Margus Meigo commented on Weldon Butch Davis's link.
but same time when hundreads are shoot dead in day in other nations by us or other five stars, or sigarette company couses of dath, no on bothers to rally
4 March 2015 04:28
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: UFO UNIVERSAL
its my nature to be right . )4 March 2015 03:51
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: UFO UNIVERSAL
also interesting article: http://www.etupdates.com/2014/06/20/russian-scientist-found-to-be-ufo-and-ancient-aliens-researcher4 March 2015 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Fox's post.
if i would be police, would just leave people there and let people handle it, after 3 days it is handled
4 March 2015 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
awww "Sina oled kaunis nagu Naine"
See suurim kompliment mida mehele öelda võimalik
See suurim kompliment mida mehele öelda võimalik
4 March 2015 02:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
no to dark jet?
(actually it is not compared t dark)
(actually it is not compared t dark)
4 March 2015 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
..(so besides burn nature parts and plants and ... Chrystal clear other things to access or to link yourself or others up to more direct use.. there is some self use, well.. even tho these body in mix with last songs.. can give a bit image as well.. )
I want you to trust me
I want you to believe me
I want to feel your glances
I want to control every heart beat
I want to hear your voices
I want to disturb your peace
I want you to see me good
I want you to understand me
I want your phatasy
I want your energy
I want to see your hands
I want to drown in your acclaim
Do you see me?
Do you understand me?
Do you feel me?
Do you hear me?
Can you hear me?
We hear you
Can you see me?
We see you
Can you feel me?
We feel you
I don’t understand you
I want
We want you to trust to us
We want you to believe us everything
We want to see your hands
We want to drown in your acclaim – yes
Can you hear me?
We hear you
Can you see me?
We see you
Can you feel me?
We feel you
I don’t understand you
Can you hear us?
We can hear you
Can you see us?
We can see you
Can you feel us?
We can feel you
We don't understand you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4K6ZxDwi34
and yes... people will run for the stars and show anyway..
I want you to trust me
I want you to believe me
I want to feel your glances
I want to control every heart beat
I want to hear your voices
I want to disturb your peace
I want you to see me good
I want you to understand me
I want your phatasy
I want your energy
I want to see your hands
I want to drown in your acclaim
Do you see me?
Do you understand me?
Do you feel me?
Do you hear me?
Can you hear me?
We hear you
Can you see me?
We see you
Can you feel me?
We feel you
I don’t understand you
I want
We want you to trust to us
We want you to believe us everything
We want to see your hands
We want to drown in your acclaim – yes
Can you hear me?
We hear you
Can you see me?
We see you
Can you feel me?
We feel you
I don’t understand you
Can you hear us?
We can hear you
Can you see us?
We can see you
Can you feel us?
We can feel you
We don't understand you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4K6ZxDwi34
and yes... people will run for the stars and show anyway..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4K6ZxDwi34
4 March 2015 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
..not really a power if ya can loose it so easy, innit..
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/01/25/the-devils-breath-worlds-scariest-drug-can-block-free-will-wipe-your-memory-even-kill/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopolamine
"... number of annual scopolamine incidents in Colombia at approximately 50,000. Scopolamine can render a victim unconscious for 24 hours or more. In large doses, it can cause respiratory failure and death. It is most often administered in liquid or powder form in foods and beverages. The majority of these incidents occur in night clubs and bars, and usually men, perceived to be wealthy, are targeted by young, attractive women. To avoid becoming a victim of scopolamine, one should never accept food or beverages offered by strangers or new acquaintances or leave food or beverages unattended .."
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/01/25/the-devils-breath-worlds-scariest-drug-can-block-free-will-wipe-your-memory-even-kill/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopolamine
"... number of annual scopolamine incidents in Colombia at approximately 50,000. Scopolamine can render a victim unconscious for 24 hours or more. In large doses, it can cause respiratory failure and death. It is most often administered in liquid or powder form in foods and beverages. The majority of these incidents occur in night clubs and bars, and usually men, perceived to be wealthy, are targeted by young, attractive women. To avoid becoming a victim of scopolamine, one should never accept food or beverages offered by strangers or new acquaintances or leave food or beverages unattended .."
4 March 2015 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
... and same thing in up-to-dated revision..
The voodoo, who do, what you don't dare do people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKXKWBcaV3A
or do ya dear do, lets spin the dick to some pleants , shall we
.. not that we need to but there is do..
The voodoo, who do, what you don't dare do people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKXKWBcaV3A
or do ya dear do, lets spin the dick to some pleants , shall we
.. not that we need to but there is do..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKXKWBcaV3A
4 March 2015 01:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
..(and same time o earth.... )
Magic people, voodoo people
The voodoo, who do, what you don't dare do people
Voodoo!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fz85FE0KtQ
Magic people, voodoo people
The voodoo, who do, what you don't dare do people
Voodoo!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fz85FE0KtQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fz85FE0KtQ
4 March 2015 01:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but at same time... play close attention... /so where was we whit the beat feed/
I'm gonna send him to outer space,
To find another race.
I'm gonna send him to outer space,
To find another race.
...
I'll take your brain to another dimension.
I'll take your brain to another dimension.
I'll take your brain to another dimension.
(hold it!)
Pay close attention
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qriH-8yeqcE
I'm gonna send him to outer space,
To find another race.
I'm gonna send him to outer space,
To find another race.
...
I'll take your brain to another dimension.
I'll take your brain to another dimension.
I'll take your brain to another dimension.
(hold it!)
Pay close attention
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qriH-8yeqcE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qriH-8yeqcE
4 March 2015 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.. (that would ruin the beat but will keep the right colors in mind.. well.. or, as You know.. the topic is so in one, can be in enabled as a post stamp... s when the TV Shop comes in living room in living field this is going on.. )
Another head hangs lowly,
Child is slowly taken.
And the violence caused such silence.
Who are we mistaken?
But you see, it's not me, it's not my family.
In your head, in your head they are fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are crying...
In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, dou, dou, dou, dou, dou...
Another mother's breakin'
Heart is taking over
When the violence causes silence,
We must be mistaken.
It's the same old theme since nineteen-sixteen.
In your head, in your head they're still fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are dying...
In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, oh, oh,
Oh, oh, oh, oh, hey, oh, ya, ya-a...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts
Another head hangs lowly,
Child is slowly taken.
And the violence caused such silence.
Who are we mistaken?
But you see, it's not me, it's not my family.
In your head, in your head they are fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are crying...
In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, dou, dou, dou, dou, dou...
Another mother's breakin'
Heart is taking over
When the violence causes silence,
We must be mistaken.
It's the same old theme since nineteen-sixteen.
In your head, in your head they're still fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are dying...
In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, oh, oh,
Oh, oh, oh, oh, hey, oh, ya, ya-a...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts
4 March 2015 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
... (with a bit on same tone, in another tone.. in same done to paralel.. walk away... from to serious, innit)
Above the ancient volcanoes
Slide your wings under the carpet of the wind
Travel, travel, eternally
Of clouds in swamps
Of wind in Spain in the rain from Ecuador
Travel, travel, fly to the highest heights
Above the capitals, fatal ideas
Look at the ocean
Travel, travel, further than the night and the day
Travel, in spaces unheard of by love
Travel, travel, on the sacred waters of an Indian river
Travel, and never come back
On the Ganges or the Amazon
With people of all races
Travel, travel, throughout the land
On the dunes of the Sahara
From Fiji to Fujiyama
Travel, travel, don't you stop
Above Barbal, with hearts bombarded
Look at the ocean
Travel, travel, further than the night and the day
Travel, in spaces unheard of by love
Travel, travel, on the sacred waters of an Indian river
Travel, and never come back
Above the capitals, the fatal ideas
Look at the ocean
Travel, travel, further than the night and the day
Travel, in spaces unheard of by love
Travel, travel, on the sacred waters of an Indian river
Travel, travel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PDmZnG8KsM
put picture still .. leaves part of memories... in a spiral we are..
Taken from http://lyricstranslate.com/en/voyage-voyage-travel-travel.html-0
NO WE AIGHT PUT " Kate Ryan - Ella, Elle l'a" ... TOP OF HERE..... wit hall the pentagrams.. ( but "ela" means.. "be a live tho..:p ))
something that would connect the amazon and the parts from before... rather..
but the lyrics go here perhaps, for a note, anyway:
It's like a joy, like a smile
that thing in her voice that seems to be saying "Come!"
that makes us feel strangely good
it's like all the history of the black people
that swings between love and dispair
that thing that dances inside of you, if you have it, you have it.
She has it, the thing I know about
that others don't have, that puts us in a funny state
she, she , she has it, she has that funny voice, that funny cheerfullness
that gift from up above that makes her beautiful, she has it
She has that extra bit of soul
that undefinied charm, that little flame.
Hitting the barrels, the pianos (playing the piano)
and everything that Gods can put in your hands
show your laughter or your sadness
but if you are nothing or if you are a king
if you are still looking for the power that is sleeping inside of you
you see, that cannot be purchased, your have or you don't (lit. when you have it, you have it.)
She has that thing I know about
that others don't have and that puts us in a funny state
she has it
she has it
She has that thing I know about
that others don't have and that puts us in a funny state
she has it, she has that funny voice, that funny cheerfullness
that gift from up above that makes her beautiful, she has it...
Taken from http://lyricstranslate.com/en/Elle-elle-la-Elle-elle-la.html
.. on skip more, knowing whats was about... in another tune..
Above the ancient volcanoes
Slide your wings under the carpet of the wind
Travel, travel, eternally
Of clouds in swamps
Of wind in Spain in the rain from Ecuador
Travel, travel, fly to the highest heights
Above the capitals, fatal ideas
Look at the ocean
Travel, travel, further than the night and the day
Travel, in spaces unheard of by love
Travel, travel, on the sacred waters of an Indian river
Travel, and never come back
On the Ganges or the Amazon
With people of all races
Travel, travel, throughout the land
On the dunes of the Sahara
From Fiji to Fujiyama
Travel, travel, don't you stop
Above Barbal, with hearts bombarded
Look at the ocean
Travel, travel, further than the night and the day
Travel, in spaces unheard of by love
Travel, travel, on the sacred waters of an Indian river
Travel, and never come back
Above the capitals, the fatal ideas
Look at the ocean
Travel, travel, further than the night and the day
Travel, in spaces unheard of by love
Travel, travel, on the sacred waters of an Indian river
Travel, travel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PDmZnG8KsM
put picture still .. leaves part of memories... in a spiral we are..
Taken from http://lyricstranslate.com/en/voyage-voyage-travel-travel.html-0
NO WE AIGHT PUT " Kate Ryan - Ella, Elle l'a" ... TOP OF HERE..... wit hall the pentagrams.. ( but "ela" means.. "be a live tho..:p ))
something that would connect the amazon and the parts from before... rather..
but the lyrics go here perhaps, for a note, anyway:
It's like a joy, like a smile
that thing in her voice that seems to be saying "Come!"
that makes us feel strangely good
it's like all the history of the black people
that swings between love and dispair
that thing that dances inside of you, if you have it, you have it.
She has it, the thing I know about
that others don't have, that puts us in a funny state
she, she , she has it, she has that funny voice, that funny cheerfullness
that gift from up above that makes her beautiful, she has it
She has that extra bit of soul
that undefinied charm, that little flame.
Hitting the barrels, the pianos (playing the piano)
and everything that Gods can put in your hands
show your laughter or your sadness
but if you are nothing or if you are a king
if you are still looking for the power that is sleeping inside of you
you see, that cannot be purchased, your have or you don't (lit. when you have it, you have it.)
She has that thing I know about
that others don't have and that puts us in a funny state
she has it
she has it
She has that thing I know about
that others don't have and that puts us in a funny state
she has it, she has that funny voice, that funny cheerfullness
that gift from up above that makes her beautiful, she has it...
Taken from http://lyricstranslate.com/en/Elle-elle-la-Elle-elle-la.html
.. on skip more, knowing whats was about... in another tune..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PDmZnG8KsM
4 March 2015 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
creepy innit
4 March 2015 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(..as her girl friend might not have self control.. or will.. as we know..)
Oh, the night is my world
City light painted girl
In the day nothing matters
It's the night time that flatters
In the night, no control
Through the wall something's breaking
Wearing white as you're walkin'
Down the street of my soul
You take my self, you take my self control
You got me livin' only for the night
Before the morning comes, the story's told
You take my self, you take my self control
Another night, another day goes by
I never stop myself to wonder why
You help me to forget to play my role
You take my self, you take my self control
I, I live among the creatures of the night
I haven't got the will to try and fight
Against a new tomorrow, so I guess I'll just believe it
That tomorrow never comes
A safe night, I'm living in the forest of my dream
I know the night is not as it would seem
I must believe in something, so I'll make myself believe it
That this night will never go
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
Oh, the night is my world
City light painted girl
In the day nothing matters
It's the night time that flatters
I, I live among the creatures of the night
I haven't got the will to try and fight
Against a new tomorrow, so I guess I'll just believe it
That tomorrow never knows
A safe night, I'm living in the forest of a dream
I know the night is not as it would seem
I must believe in something, so I'll make myself believe it
That this night will never go
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
You take my self, you take my self control
You take my self, you take my self control
You take my self, you take my self control...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8-pP4VboBk
Oh, the night is my world
City light painted girl
In the day nothing matters
It's the night time that flatters
In the night, no control
Through the wall something's breaking
Wearing white as you're walkin'
Down the street of my soul
You take my self, you take my self control
You got me livin' only for the night
Before the morning comes, the story's told
You take my self, you take my self control
Another night, another day goes by
I never stop myself to wonder why
You help me to forget to play my role
You take my self, you take my self control
I, I live among the creatures of the night
I haven't got the will to try and fight
Against a new tomorrow, so I guess I'll just believe it
That tomorrow never comes
A safe night, I'm living in the forest of my dream
I know the night is not as it would seem
I must believe in something, so I'll make myself believe it
That this night will never go
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
Oh, the night is my world
City light painted girl
In the day nothing matters
It's the night time that flatters
I, I live among the creatures of the night
I haven't got the will to try and fight
Against a new tomorrow, so I guess I'll just believe it
That tomorrow never knows
A safe night, I'm living in the forest of a dream
I know the night is not as it would seem
I must believe in something, so I'll make myself believe it
That this night will never go
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
You take my self, you take my self control
You take my self, you take my self control
You take my self, you take my self control...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8-pP4VboBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8-pP4VboBk
4 March 2015 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(...but in same time... )
Oh, the night is my world
City light painted girl
In the day nothing matters
It's the night time that flatters
In the night, no control
Through the wall something's breaking
Wearing white as you're walkin'
Down the street of my soul
You take my self, you take my self control
You got me livin' only for the night
Before the morning comes, the story's told
You take my self, you take my self control
Another night, another day goes by
I never stop myself to wonder why
You help me to forget to play my role
You take my self, you take my self control
I, I live among the creatures of the night
I haven't got the will to try and fight
Against a new tomorrow, so I guess I'll just believe it
That tomorrow never comes
A safe night, I'm living in the forest of my dream
I know the night is not as it would seem
I must believe in something, so I'll make myself believe it
That this night will never go
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
Oh, the night is my world
City light painted girl
In the day nothing matters
It's the night time that flatters
I, I live among the creatures of the night
I haven't got the will to try and fight
Against a new tomorrow, so I guess I'll just believe it
That tomorrow never knows
A safe night, I'm living in the forest of a dream
I know the night is not as it would seem
I must believe in something, so I'll make myself believe it
That this night will never go
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
You take my self, you take my self control
You take my self, you take my self control
You take my self, you take my self control...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8-pP4VboBk
Oh, the night is my world
City light painted girl
In the day nothing matters
It's the night time that flatters
In the night, no control
Through the wall something's breaking
Wearing white as you're walkin'
Down the street of my soul
You take my self, you take my self control
You got me livin' only for the night
Before the morning comes, the story's told
You take my self, you take my self control
Another night, another day goes by
I never stop myself to wonder why
You help me to forget to play my role
You take my self, you take my self control
I, I live among the creatures of the night
I haven't got the will to try and fight
Against a new tomorrow, so I guess I'll just believe it
That tomorrow never comes
A safe night, I'm living in the forest of my dream
I know the night is not as it would seem
I must believe in something, so I'll make myself believe it
That this night will never go
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
Oh, the night is my world
City light painted girl
In the day nothing matters
It's the night time that flatters
I, I live among the creatures of the night
I haven't got the will to try and fight
Against a new tomorrow, so I guess I'll just believe it
That tomorrow never knows
A safe night, I'm living in the forest of a dream
I know the night is not as it would seem
I must believe in something, so I'll make myself believe it
That this night will never go
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
You take my self, you take my self control
You take my self, you take my self control
You take my self, you take my self control...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8-pP4VboBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8-pP4VboBk
4 March 2015 01:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(a though She say don't speak..)
Oh life, it's bigger
It's bigger than you
And you are not me
The lengths that I will go to
The distance in your eyes
Oh no, I've said too much
I've said enough
That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight
Losing my religion
Trying to keep up with you
And I don't know if I can do it
Oh no, I've said too much
I haven't said enough
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try
Every whisper
Of every waking hour
I'm choosing my confessions
Trying to keep an eye on you
Like a hurt, lost and blinded fool, fool
Oh no, I've said too much
I've said enough
Consider this
Consider this, the hint of the century
Consider this, the slip
That brought me to my knees, failed
What if all these fantasies come
Flailing around
Now I've said too much
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try
But that was just a dream
That was just a dream
That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight
Losing my religion
Trying to keep up with you
And I don't know if I can do it
Oh no, I've said too much
I haven't said enough
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try
But that was just a dream
Try, cry, why try
That was just a dream
Just a dream
Just a dream, dream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwtdhWltSIg
(before that in another dimension, up from a parallel time the worries from in light of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uchNZAsWD5o .. about what in same time, issues and where fits the singer in a table.. ..so by that time is already has always been abut more, then a just a dream..)
Oh life, it's bigger
It's bigger than you
And you are not me
The lengths that I will go to
The distance in your eyes
Oh no, I've said too much
I've said enough
That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight
Losing my religion
Trying to keep up with you
And I don't know if I can do it
Oh no, I've said too much
I haven't said enough
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try
Every whisper
Of every waking hour
I'm choosing my confessions
Trying to keep an eye on you
Like a hurt, lost and blinded fool, fool
Oh no, I've said too much
I've said enough
Consider this
Consider this, the hint of the century
Consider this, the slip
That brought me to my knees, failed
What if all these fantasies come
Flailing around
Now I've said too much
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try
But that was just a dream
That was just a dream
That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight
Losing my religion
Trying to keep up with you
And I don't know if I can do it
Oh no, I've said too much
I haven't said enough
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try
But that was just a dream
Try, cry, why try
That was just a dream
Just a dream
Just a dream, dream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwtdhWltSIg
(before that in another dimension, up from a parallel time the worries from in light of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uchNZAsWD5o .. about what in same time, issues and where fits the singer in a table.. ..so by that time is already has always been abut more, then a just a dream..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwtdhWltSIg
4 March 2015 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.. (step more..)
You and me
We used to be together
Everyday together always
I really feel
That I'm losing my best friend
I can't believe
This could be the end
It looks as though you're letting go
And if it's real
Well I don't want to know
Don't speak
I know just what you're saying
So please stop explaining
Don't tell me cause it hurts
Don't speak
I know what you're thinking
I don't need your reasons
Don't tell me cause it hurts
Our memories
Well, they can be inviting
But some are altogether
Mighty frightening
As we die, both you and I
With my head in my hands
I sit and cry
Don't speak
I know just what you're saying
So please stop explaining
Don't tell me cause it hurts (no, no, no)
Don't speak
I know what you're thinking
I don't need your reasons
Don't tell me cause it hurts
It's all ending
I gotta stop pretending who we are...
You and me I can see us dying...are we?
Don't speak
I know just what you're saying
So please stop explaining
Don't tell me cause it hurts (no, no, no)
Don't speak
I know what you're thinking
I don't need your reasons
Don't tell me cause it hurts
Don't tell me cause it hurts!
I know what you're saying
So please stop explaining
Don't speak,
don't speak,
don't speak,
oh I know what you're thinking
And I don't need your reasons
I know you're good,
I know you're good,
I know you're real good
Oh, la la la la la la La la la la la la
Don't, Don't, uh-huh Hush, hush darlin'
Hush, hush darlin' Hush, hush
don't tell me tell me cause it hurts
Hush, hush darlin' Hush, hush darlin'
Hush, hush don't tell me tell me cause it hurts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR3Vdo5etCQ
You and me
We used to be together
Everyday together always
I really feel
That I'm losing my best friend
I can't believe
This could be the end
It looks as though you're letting go
And if it's real
Well I don't want to know
Don't speak
I know just what you're saying
So please stop explaining
Don't tell me cause it hurts
Don't speak
I know what you're thinking
I don't need your reasons
Don't tell me cause it hurts
Our memories
Well, they can be inviting
But some are altogether
Mighty frightening
As we die, both you and I
With my head in my hands
I sit and cry
Don't speak
I know just what you're saying
So please stop explaining
Don't tell me cause it hurts (no, no, no)
Don't speak
I know what you're thinking
I don't need your reasons
Don't tell me cause it hurts
It's all ending
I gotta stop pretending who we are...
You and me I can see us dying...are we?
Don't speak
I know just what you're saying
So please stop explaining
Don't tell me cause it hurts (no, no, no)
Don't speak
I know what you're thinking
I don't need your reasons
Don't tell me cause it hurts
Don't tell me cause it hurts!
I know what you're saying
So please stop explaining
Don't speak,
don't speak,
don't speak,
oh I know what you're thinking
And I don't need your reasons
I know you're good,
I know you're good,
I know you're real good
Oh, la la la la la la La la la la la la
Don't, Don't, uh-huh Hush, hush darlin'
Hush, hush darlin' Hush, hush
don't tell me tell me cause it hurts
Hush, hush darlin' Hush, hush darlin'
Hush, hush don't tell me tell me cause it hurts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR3Vdo5etCQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR3Vdo5etCQ
4 March 2015 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(up and now down... to be continued.)
I don't know what you're looking for
you haven't found it baby, that's for sure
You rip me up and spread me all around
in the dust of the deed of time
And this is not a case of lust, you see
it's not a matter of you versus of me
It's fine the way you want me on your own
but in the end it's always me alone
And I'm losing my favourite game
you're losing your mind again
I'm losing my baby
losing my favourite game
I only know what I've been working for
another you so I could love you more
I really thought that I could take you there
but my experiment is not getting us anywhere
I had a vision I could turn you right
a stupid mission and a lethal fight
I should have seen it when my hope was new
my heart is black and my body is blue
And I'm losing my favourite game
you're losing your mind again
I'm losing my favourite game
I've tried but you're still the same
I'm losing my baby
you're losing a saviour and a saint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq-I4orlEhE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsMUQK4jdsQ (mtv version)
stay stay no loooselolose ehjee ehjee ehehejee
where does this experiment get us anyway ?
I don't know what you're looking for
you haven't found it baby, that's for sure
You rip me up and spread me all around
in the dust of the deed of time
And this is not a case of lust, you see
it's not a matter of you versus of me
It's fine the way you want me on your own
but in the end it's always me alone
And I'm losing my favourite game
you're losing your mind again
I'm losing my baby
losing my favourite game
I only know what I've been working for
another you so I could love you more
I really thought that I could take you there
but my experiment is not getting us anywhere
I had a vision I could turn you right
a stupid mission and a lethal fight
I should have seen it when my hope was new
my heart is black and my body is blue
And I'm losing my favourite game
you're losing your mind again
I'm losing my favourite game
I've tried but you're still the same
I'm losing my baby
you're losing a saviour and a saint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq-I4orlEhE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsMUQK4jdsQ (mtv version)
stay stay no loooselolose ehjee ehjee ehehejee
where does this experiment get us anyway ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq-I4orlEhE
4 March 2015 00:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"what time is it? Its now, its always fking now!" innit
You're my last breath,
You're a breath of fresh air to me
I am empty
So tell me you care for me
You're the first thing
And the last thing on my mind
In your arms I feel
Sunshine
All the promise
A daydream yet to come
Time is upon us
Oh but the night is young
Flowers blossom
In the wintertime
In your arms I feel
Sunshine
Give up yourself unto the moment
The time is now
Give up yourself unto the moment
Let's make this moment last
You may find yourself
Out on a limb for me
Could you accept it as
Part of your destiny?
I give all I have
But it's not enough
And my patience I shot
So I'm calling your bluff
Give up yourself unto the moment
The time is now
Give up yourself unto the moment
Let's make this moment last
Give up yourself unto the moment
The time is now
Give up yourself unto the moment
Let's make this moment ... last
And we gave it time
All eyes are on the clock
Time takes too much time
Please make the waiting stop
And the atmosphere is charged
In you I trust
And I feel no fear as I
Do as I must
Give up yourself unto the moment
The time is now
Give up yourself unto the moment
Let's make this moment last
Give up yourself unto the moment
The time is now
Give up yourself unto the moment
Let's make this moment last
Tempted by fate
And I won't hesitate
The time is now
And I can't wait
I've been empty too long
(The time is now)
Pretending that it's gone
And the time has come
Let's make this moment last
And the night is young
The time is now
Let's make this moment last
Give up yourself unto the moment
The time is now
Give up yourself unto the moment
Let's make this moment ... last
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR9Ke02m_zk
You're my last breath,
You're a breath of fresh air to me
I am empty
So tell me you care for me
You're the first thing
And the last thing on my mind
In your arms I feel
Sunshine
All the promise
A daydream yet to come
Time is upon us
Oh but the night is young
Flowers blossom
In the wintertime
In your arms I feel
Sunshine
Give up yourself unto the moment
The time is now
Give up yourself unto the moment
Let's make this moment last
You may find yourself
Out on a limb for me
Could you accept it as
Part of your destiny?
I give all I have
But it's not enough
And my patience I shot
So I'm calling your bluff
Give up yourself unto the moment
The time is now
Give up yourself unto the moment
Let's make this moment last
Give up yourself unto the moment
The time is now
Give up yourself unto the moment
Let's make this moment ... last
And we gave it time
All eyes are on the clock
Time takes too much time
Please make the waiting stop
And the atmosphere is charged
In you I trust
And I feel no fear as I
Do as I must
Give up yourself unto the moment
The time is now
Give up yourself unto the moment
Let's make this moment last
Give up yourself unto the moment
The time is now
Give up yourself unto the moment
Let's make this moment last
Tempted by fate
And I won't hesitate
The time is now
And I can't wait
I've been empty too long
(The time is now)
Pretending that it's gone
And the time has come
Let's make this moment last
And the night is young
The time is now
Let's make this moment last
Give up yourself unto the moment
The time is now
Give up yourself unto the moment
Let's make this moment ... last
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR9Ke02m_zk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR9Ke02m_zk
4 March 2015 00:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ha they make me smile :D
4 March 2015 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
When you are ready I will surrender take me and do as you wish
Have what you want your way's always the best way
I have succumbed to this passive sensation peacefully falling away
I am a zombie your wish will command me, laugh as I fall to my knees
Can I control this empty delusion lost in the fire below?
And you come running your eyes will be open
And when you come back I'll be as you want me, only so eager to please
My little song will keep you beside me thinking your name as I sing
Sing it back to me
Sing it back to me
Now you can't help it if you have been tempted by fruit hanging ripe on the tree
And I feel useless don't care what the truth is you will be here come the day
Truth do you hear me? Don't try to come near me. So tired, I sleep through the light
If you desire to lay here beside me come to my sweet melody
Sing it back to me
Bring it back, sing it back
Bring it back, sing it back to me
Bring it back, sing it back
Bring it back, sing it back to me
Sing it, sing it
Sing it back to me
Bring it back, sing it back
Bring it back, sing it back to me
Bring it back, sing it back
Bring it back, sing it back to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z06gUeqUpeo
Have what you want your way's always the best way
I have succumbed to this passive sensation peacefully falling away
I am a zombie your wish will command me, laugh as I fall to my knees
Can I control this empty delusion lost in the fire below?
And you come running your eyes will be open
And when you come back I'll be as you want me, only so eager to please
My little song will keep you beside me thinking your name as I sing
Sing it back to me
Sing it back to me
Now you can't help it if you have been tempted by fruit hanging ripe on the tree
And I feel useless don't care what the truth is you will be here come the day
Truth do you hear me? Don't try to come near me. So tired, I sleep through the light
If you desire to lay here beside me come to my sweet melody
Sing it back to me
Bring it back, sing it back
Bring it back, sing it back to me
Bring it back, sing it back
Bring it back, sing it back to me
Sing it, sing it
Sing it back to me
Bring it back, sing it back
Bring it back, sing it back to me
Bring it back, sing it back
Bring it back, sing it back to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z06gUeqUpeo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z06gUeqUpeo
4 March 2015 00:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
...
From the primordial soup
Out of the dim and the gloom we came
We are animals
By any other name
From the primordial soup
Out of the dim and the gloom we came
We are animals
One unbroken chain
I need to get you out of your cave, man
I need to let you out of your cage and set you free
If tonight's the night
I'm gonna show you I ain't got no game plan
Out from under a rock
From a prehistoric sea, we crawl
We are animals
Animal, one and all
Out from under a rock
From the prehistoric sea we came
We are animals, animal
One unbroken chain
I know what you're searching for
I pray you find it, on your instinct
I don't need your hurtin', boy
Animalistic
I need to get you out of your cave, man
I wanna let you out of your cage and set you free
If tonight's the night
I'm gonna show you I ain't got no game plan
I need to get you out of your cave, man
I wanna let you out of your cage and set you free
If tonight's the night
I'm gonna show you I ain't got no game plan
If you call out tonight
And hear the call of the wild, reply
You are animal, animal
Not so deep inside
If you call out in vain
Everyone of us just the same
We are animal
Dare not speak its name
I know what you're searching for
I pray you find it, on your instinct
I don't need your hurtin', boy
Animalistic
I need to get you out of your cave, man
(Primitive)
I'm gonna let you out of your cage and set you free
If tonight's the night
I'm gonna show you I ain't got no game plan
(Primitive love for me)
I need to get you out of your cave, man
(Primitive)
I'm gonna let you out of your cage and set you free
If tonight's the night
I'm gonna show you I ain't got no game plan
(Primitive love for me)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYvxOL57D_I
Read more: Roisin Murphy - Primitive Lyrics | MetroLyrics
From the primordial soup
Out of the dim and the gloom we came
We are animals
By any other name
From the primordial soup
Out of the dim and the gloom we came
We are animals
One unbroken chain
I need to get you out of your cave, man
I need to let you out of your cage and set you free
If tonight's the night
I'm gonna show you I ain't got no game plan
Out from under a rock
From a prehistoric sea, we crawl
We are animals
Animal, one and all
Out from under a rock
From the prehistoric sea we came
We are animals, animal
One unbroken chain
I know what you're searching for
I pray you find it, on your instinct
I don't need your hurtin', boy
Animalistic
I need to get you out of your cave, man
I wanna let you out of your cage and set you free
If tonight's the night
I'm gonna show you I ain't got no game plan
I need to get you out of your cave, man
I wanna let you out of your cage and set you free
If tonight's the night
I'm gonna show you I ain't got no game plan
If you call out tonight
And hear the call of the wild, reply
You are animal, animal
Not so deep inside
If you call out in vain
Everyone of us just the same
We are animal
Dare not speak its name
I know what you're searching for
I pray you find it, on your instinct
I don't need your hurtin', boy
Animalistic
I need to get you out of your cave, man
(Primitive)
I'm gonna let you out of your cage and set you free
If tonight's the night
I'm gonna show you I ain't got no game plan
(Primitive love for me)
I need to get you out of your cave, man
(Primitive)
I'm gonna let you out of your cage and set you free
If tonight's the night
I'm gonna show you I ain't got no game plan
(Primitive love for me)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYvxOL57D_I
Read more: Roisin Murphy - Primitive Lyrics | MetroLyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYvxOL57D_I
4 March 2015 00:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(L) :'(
4 March 2015 00:34
Margus Meigo commented on Timmy Davis's post.
THis is the best one, that am have seen for a time
3 March 2015 20:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
if some one is working for destruction of a species and nature instead in dear care and multiply dimensional care and love, in deep core level communication and time travel at will.. well .. what can ya say, do what ya will i guess :D
(as long you are allowed to, as basic rule is, there is a rule and a border , and only one key that opens where we want to get, cry now and be saved later or cry later and ... hope you will be forgiven by these who you bring this what they did not desire in deep heart, ignorance maybe is not full excuse in the end once you have heard the truth and knowingly ignored it... and keep it up... similar group of beings with today politicians, scientist and "spiritual gurus" who care only small level, one dimensional pleasure instead living be on limits... by gathering knowledge in here that is needed for that.... and basic You DO always need to know, is
1. Love be on ALL You prarents
3. Respect Nature as you intelligent maker and take magic mushrooms in large dosages with intuition to know what is best you can do for you maker
2. Respect religions ( and tools eg )to the core and love Your body as with it when You join as a man your body to a women You can access to eternal life in love, there is no other way, women is the key keeper when She knows. Other times she allows and accepts for world to use Her.
(as long you are allowed to, as basic rule is, there is a rule and a border , and only one key that opens where we want to get, cry now and be saved later or cry later and ... hope you will be forgiven by these who you bring this what they did not desire in deep heart, ignorance maybe is not full excuse in the end once you have heard the truth and knowingly ignored it... and keep it up... similar group of beings with today politicians, scientist and "spiritual gurus" who care only small level, one dimensional pleasure instead living be on limits... by gathering knowledge in here that is needed for that.... and basic You DO always need to know, is
1. Love be on ALL You prarents
3. Respect Nature as you intelligent maker and take magic mushrooms in large dosages with intuition to know what is best you can do for you maker
2. Respect religions ( and tools eg )to the core and love Your body as with it when You join as a man your body to a women You can access to eternal life in love, there is no other way, women is the key keeper when She knows. Other times she allows and accepts for world to use Her.
3 March 2015 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on Anti-You 2.0's photo.
Sad naives who help to keep suffering in this world (well, not all of it, some working inside these teenager groups and with older "hosts" clubs to save what can and to keep up to dated with latest trends and plans, from secret services to different religious groups.. ... but some groups are believed to be pure slaves that are be on saving.. )
Christian magic and wizard s is with out a doubt superior in many levels, as we deal with a source maker and in parallel worlds in many directions when we really need to cast a spells, usually most victims or "players" are in kids level and practice simple possession magic so there is no need to cut the cord. of soul.
Christian magic and wizard s is with out a doubt superior in many levels, as we deal with a source maker and in parallel worlds in many directions when we really need to cast a spells, usually most victims or "players" are in kids level and practice simple possession magic so there is no need to cut the cord. of soul.
3 March 2015 19:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and how anyone in a proper light of god can call them self a "Protest-.." as like... or ROMAN Catholic.. are we blind completely or something ?
so,
What about just taking that literally, for starters?
Literally in the light of realization that we must make life good
then ALL instructions how and how not to is included
why to make it so "mystical" when all the extra mystics You can get from Nature plants directly, that is not writable (unless this is one part of our job to make writing reference of all presumptions, receptions, perceptions )
so,
What about just taking that literally, for starters?
Literally in the light of realization that we must make life good
then ALL instructions how and how not to is included
why to make it so "mystical" when all the extra mystics You can get from Nature plants directly, that is not writable (unless this is one part of our job to make writing reference of all presumptions, receptions, perceptions )
2 March 2015 18:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mai seda ei saa enne ametlikult teha õigesti, kui piisavalt suur võrk on aru saanud ka muudest süsteemi osadest mis võib või võivad olla töös praegu, sest põhjus on miks loomi sedasi käsitletakse ja selle põhjuse juurega tegleda tuleb,
mitte tagajärjega ainult
kuid see juur, selle sisse vaadates, see seotud niipaljude asjadega, see nii suur, et noh.. sõnadesseei mahu ära, kuid küll me hakkama saame kuna elus oleme
mitte tagajärjega ainult
kuid see juur, selle sisse vaadates, see seotud niipaljude asjadega, see nii suur, et noh.. sõnadesseei mahu ära, kuid küll me hakkama saame kuna elus oleme
2 March 2015 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
: ))
Seda oleks vaja jah, et vähegi asjalikud, tema veel üks roheline http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksei_Lotman
Seda oleks vaja jah, et vähegi asjalikud, tema veel üks roheline http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksei_Lotman
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksei_Lotman
2 March 2015 13:56
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kuna siin kristlased, siis elementaarselt tasub juba arvestada, et andeks antud nii nagu ise annad K-l Rebane2 March 2015 02:06
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: Kristlased
Vast isegi paremini, samamoodi aga (veel) paremini : )2 March 2015 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Leivalt's post.
Group: Kristlased
Minu valik: et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valdur_Lahtveehttp://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valdur_Lahtvee
2 March 2015 01:23
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: Kristlased
Aga lipsu kannab ikkagi ja see on suts kahtlane. Abordi asja ka mehed puutuma ei peaks ja üle üldse selles osas peaks juutidelt õppust võtma http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
eks pean seedima teda kuid otse eetris ta alati mitu pügalat mõistlikum tundunud kui kellega iganes ta koos ekraanis olnud onhttp://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
2 March 2015 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on Kaido Kask's post.
Group: Kristlased
Teil kõigil on õigus : )2 March 2015 01:21
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
Kelle verd siis valati? Või niisama selliseid pealkirju kasutada..
äripäev peaks ju targem olema
kui veri päriselt voolama hakkab vot siis on hala
äripäev peaks ju targem olema
kui veri päriselt voolama hakkab vot siis on hala
1 March 2015 17:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
ei neid enam kunagi aja
1 March 2015 16:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
sest välja mõelda jumalike vabandusi rüveduse ja sulaselge ebatarkuse jaoks oma peaga pole alati nii lihtne, ja sis on vana õige reegel ainuõige, ära emaldada ilma vägivallata need kes on headuse vastased.
Ja kuna me teame mis on hea ja kuidas on ja ei ole, siis see lihtne teha õiglaselt
Ja kuna me teame mis on hea ja kuidas on ja ei ole, siis see lihtne teha õiglaselt
1 March 2015 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Veel kahjuks pole, juba ammu aega, nagu näha, hakkan närviliseks muutuma vaikselt. Vaja kiiresti metsa suunduda järgneva paari aasta jooksul sest muidu radikaalseks läheb asi
1 March 2015 16:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Selles osas pole mõtet vaidlema hakata ja kõik kes on õige usu eest olles vahele jäänud sellega, peavad vabandama ja vajadusel eluks ajaks ära märkima kui eksinud, seni kuni mõni shamaan ja hinge tohter ta hinge puhtaks tunnistab
1 March 2015 14:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siin on vaieldamatu põhjus jällegi, miks on vaja kõik need usud ja kultuurid korda teha, ära puhastada, elu selgeks õpetada - ükskõik kui iidsed nad on, senikaua kui nad kavalust kasutavad ja usuvad võlts sõbralikuse edusse.
Siin 10 punkti kristlusele ja veel mõnele usule ja filosoofiale kes on kõrgemal tasemel SELGELT; ja aru saanud, et need asjad universumis pikas perspektiivis head ei too - kui petad sõpruses või kavaldad aususe asemel
Siin 10 punkti kristlusele ja veel mõnele usule ja filosoofiale kes on kõrgemal tasemel SELGELT; ja aru saanud, et need asjad universumis pikas perspektiivis head ei too - kui petad sõpruses või kavaldad aususe asemel
1 March 2015 14:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Ahmed ütleb ka filmis: ärge usaldage kõiki, kõik inimesed ei ole head. Mina eelistaks elus pigem lauset: alati usu võõraste lahkusesse.
Selle asjaga ei tohi ka väga naiivseks minna. Sest kui ümberringi käib sõda ja kui sõja üks pool on teisest religioonist, peab olema väga ettevaatlik. Sest sõnapidamine, samas petmine, kavaldamine – see on idamaades täiesti lubatud ja aktsepteeritud asi, sest vaenlasest tuleb jagu saada. Sealkandis ma oleksin küll väga ettevaatlik oma sõna andmiste ja oma sõna pidamistega.
Üldiselt häda neile kristlastele, kes lähevad islamimaid torkima. Ma ei tea, kas vastasin teie küsimusele, aga ma oleksin väga ettevaatlik. Üldse väga ettevaatlik, kui sõda käib. Üldse, kui on konflikt. Ka täiesti rahulikul territooriumil võib olla poliitiline võitlus. Valimistel ajal näiteks. Kus ma ei usaldaks, elu on näidanud, et teatud poliitilisi liikumisi ma ei saa usaldada, ma oleksin pigem skeptiline. Elu on näidanud. Ainult väga naiivsed inimesed võivad seda öelda, et poliitikas peab olema sõnapidaja ja aus. Sest seal käivad hoopis teised mängud ja meiesugused lihtsad inimesed peaksid olema natuke ettevaatlikud oma väljaütlemistega, sest naiivsuses võib iseendale traumasid tekitada. Arvan, et kui normaalne inimene saab natukenegi maailmaasjadest aru, siis peaks ta poliitikast eemale hoidma. See võib rassi ära rikkuda. See võib inimese geneetilist koodi vigastada. Sest seal käivad teistsugused võitlused. Meie poliitika baseerub ju ajalehtedel, sellel, mis seal kirjutatakse. Isiklikult ei tunne me neist ju suurt kedagi. Loeme lehtedest, kusjuures seal käib ka ju kottimine veel erinevate ajalehtede vahel, kes toetavad eri jõude, ja siis sina, naiivne talumees, istud kodus ja hakkad laia lõuaga arvamust avaldama. Sa ei tea üldse, mis seal taga on! Ega see maailm ole nii aus ühtigi. Aga üldiselt inimestel on ikkagi mingisugused looduslikud instinktid niiviisi sätitud, et sõber tunneb sõbra ära. Kas lõhna järgi, ühe lause järgi. Ma ei ütle, et kohe esimesele peab kaela langema, prooviaja ehk peab ka tekitama, aga inimesed tunnevad õigeid asju ära. Ainult naiivne ei tohi olla."
Selle asjaga ei tohi ka väga naiivseks minna. Sest kui ümberringi käib sõda ja kui sõja üks pool on teisest religioonist, peab olema väga ettevaatlik. Sest sõnapidamine, samas petmine, kavaldamine – see on idamaades täiesti lubatud ja aktsepteeritud asi, sest vaenlasest tuleb jagu saada. Sealkandis ma oleksin küll väga ettevaatlik oma sõna andmiste ja oma sõna pidamistega.
Üldiselt häda neile kristlastele, kes lähevad islamimaid torkima. Ma ei tea, kas vastasin teie küsimusele, aga ma oleksin väga ettevaatlik. Üldse väga ettevaatlik, kui sõda käib. Üldse, kui on konflikt. Ka täiesti rahulikul territooriumil võib olla poliitiline võitlus. Valimistel ajal näiteks. Kus ma ei usaldaks, elu on näidanud, et teatud poliitilisi liikumisi ma ei saa usaldada, ma oleksin pigem skeptiline. Elu on näidanud. Ainult väga naiivsed inimesed võivad seda öelda, et poliitikas peab olema sõnapidaja ja aus. Sest seal käivad hoopis teised mängud ja meiesugused lihtsad inimesed peaksid olema natuke ettevaatlikud oma väljaütlemistega, sest naiivsuses võib iseendale traumasid tekitada. Arvan, et kui normaalne inimene saab natukenegi maailmaasjadest aru, siis peaks ta poliitikast eemale hoidma. See võib rassi ära rikkuda. See võib inimese geneetilist koodi vigastada. Sest seal käivad teistsugused võitlused. Meie poliitika baseerub ju ajalehtedel, sellel, mis seal kirjutatakse. Isiklikult ei tunne me neist ju suurt kedagi. Loeme lehtedest, kusjuures seal käib ka ju kottimine veel erinevate ajalehtede vahel, kes toetavad eri jõude, ja siis sina, naiivne talumees, istud kodus ja hakkad laia lõuaga arvamust avaldama. Sa ei tea üldse, mis seal taga on! Ega see maailm ole nii aus ühtigi. Aga üldiselt inimestel on ikkagi mingisugused looduslikud instinktid niiviisi sätitud, et sõber tunneb sõbra ära. Kas lõhna järgi, ühe lause järgi. Ma ei ütle, et kohe esimesele peab kaela langema, prooviaja ehk peab ka tekitama, aga inimesed tunnevad õigeid asju ära. Ainult naiivne ei tohi olla."
1 March 2015 14:07
Margus Meigo commented on Estonia's link.
" Ahmed ütleb ka filmis: ärge usaldage kõiki, kõik inimesed ei ole head. Mina eelistaks elus pigem lauset: alati usu võõraste lahkusesse.
Selle asjaga ei tohi ka väga naiivseks minna. Sest kui ümberringi käib sõda ja kui sõja üks pool on teisest religioonist, peab olema väga ettevaatlik. Sest sõnapidamine, samas petmine, kavaldamine – see on idamaades täiesti lubatud ja aktsepteeritud asi, sest vaenlasest tuleb jagu saada. Sealkandis ma oleksin küll väga ettevaatlik oma sõna andmiste ja oma sõna pidamistega.
Üldiselt häda neile kristlastele, kes lähevad islamimaid torkima. Ma ei tea, kas vastasin teie küsimusele, aga ma oleksin väga ettevaatlik. Üldse väga ettevaatlik, kui sõda käib. Üldse, kui on konflikt. Ka täiesti rahulikul territooriumil võib olla poliitiline võitlus. Valimistel ajal näiteks. Kus ma ei usaldaks, elu on näidanud, et teatud poliitilisi liikumisi ma ei saa usaldada, ma oleksin pigem skeptiline. Elu on näidanud. Ainult väga naiivsed inimesed võivad seda öelda, et poliitikas peab olema sõnapidaja ja aus. Sest seal käivad hoopis teised mängud ja meiesugused lihtsad inimesed peaksid olema natuke ettevaatlikud oma väljaütlemistega, sest naiivsuses võib iseendale traumasid tekitada. Arvan, et kui normaalne inimene saab natukenegi maailmaasjadest aru, siis peaks ta poliitikast eemale hoidma. See võib rassi ära rikkuda. See võib inimese geneetilist koodi vigastada. Sest seal käivad teistsugused võitlused. Meie poliitika baseerub ju ajalehtedel, sellel, mis seal kirjutatakse. Isiklikult ei tunne me neist ju suurt kedagi. Loeme lehtedest, kusjuures seal käib ka ju kottimine veel erinevate ajalehtede vahel, kes toetavad eri jõude, ja siis sina, naiivne talumees, istud kodus ja hakkad laia lõuaga arvamust avaldama. Sa ei tea üldse, mis seal taga on! Ega see maailm ole nii aus ühtigi. Aga üldiselt inimestel on ikkagi mingisugused looduslikud instinktid niiviisi sätitud, et sõber tunneb sõbra ära. Kas lõhna järgi, ühe lause järgi. Ma ei ütle, et kohe esimesele peab kaela langema, prooviaja ehk peab ka tekitama, aga inimesed tunnevad õigeid asju ära. Ainult naiivne ei tohi olla."
Selle asjaga ei tohi ka väga naiivseks minna. Sest kui ümberringi käib sõda ja kui sõja üks pool on teisest religioonist, peab olema väga ettevaatlik. Sest sõnapidamine, samas petmine, kavaldamine – see on idamaades täiesti lubatud ja aktsepteeritud asi, sest vaenlasest tuleb jagu saada. Sealkandis ma oleksin küll väga ettevaatlik oma sõna andmiste ja oma sõna pidamistega.
Üldiselt häda neile kristlastele, kes lähevad islamimaid torkima. Ma ei tea, kas vastasin teie küsimusele, aga ma oleksin väga ettevaatlik. Üldse väga ettevaatlik, kui sõda käib. Üldse, kui on konflikt. Ka täiesti rahulikul territooriumil võib olla poliitiline võitlus. Valimistel ajal näiteks. Kus ma ei usaldaks, elu on näidanud, et teatud poliitilisi liikumisi ma ei saa usaldada, ma oleksin pigem skeptiline. Elu on näidanud. Ainult väga naiivsed inimesed võivad seda öelda, et poliitikas peab olema sõnapidaja ja aus. Sest seal käivad hoopis teised mängud ja meiesugused lihtsad inimesed peaksid olema natuke ettevaatlikud oma väljaütlemistega, sest naiivsuses võib iseendale traumasid tekitada. Arvan, et kui normaalne inimene saab natukenegi maailmaasjadest aru, siis peaks ta poliitikast eemale hoidma. See võib rassi ära rikkuda. See võib inimese geneetilist koodi vigastada. Sest seal käivad teistsugused võitlused. Meie poliitika baseerub ju ajalehtedel, sellel, mis seal kirjutatakse. Isiklikult ei tunne me neist ju suurt kedagi. Loeme lehtedest, kusjuures seal käib ka ju kottimine veel erinevate ajalehtede vahel, kes toetavad eri jõude, ja siis sina, naiivne talumees, istud kodus ja hakkad laia lõuaga arvamust avaldama. Sa ei tea üldse, mis seal taga on! Ega see maailm ole nii aus ühtigi. Aga üldiselt inimestel on ikkagi mingisugused looduslikud instinktid niiviisi sätitud, et sõber tunneb sõbra ära. Kas lõhna järgi, ühe lause järgi. Ma ei ütle, et kohe esimesele peab kaela langema, prooviaja ehk peab ka tekitama, aga inimesed tunnevad õigeid asju ära. Ainult naiivne ei tohi olla."
1 March 2015 14:06
Margus Meigo commented on Jamie Foster's photo.
but he still loves You, thats okey :p
1 March 2015 12:11
Margus Meigo commented on Jamie Foster's photo.
iiiu why u dear girl join with wrong side of feminism and cut ur hair :D:D
1 March 2015 12:11
Margus Meigo commented on Jamie Foster's photo.
She is supper nice here again : )
1 March 2015 12:10
Margus Meigo commented on Jamie Foster's photo.
haa proper hippies looking :D
1 March 2015 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on Jamie Foster's photo.
You fit there well : ))
1 March 2015 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
(vastus esimesele kommentaarile )
Seda kindlasti, Lall
Kuid kommenteerides, enne eelnevalt ehk veel lisad millest aru said ja kuidas, alates esimest viisnurgast kotil jne?
(seda ajakirja tead?)
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video kaamera andis mulle muideks üks kodutu leedukas inglismaal tänaval elades, kui Sa teadma pead, kuid nüüd siis ootan pildimaagia seletusi, mis Sa niisama ikka..
Seda kindlasti, Lall
Kuid kommenteerides, enne eelnevalt ehk veel lisad millest aru said ja kuidas, alates esimest viisnurgast kotil jne?
(seda ajakirja tead?)
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video kaamera andis mulle muideks üks kodutu leedukas inglismaal tänaval elades, kui Sa teadma pead, kuid nüüd siis ootan pildimaagia seletusi, mis Sa niisama ikka..
1 March 2015 11:25
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
Putin Putiniks, kuid kui see oleks eriteenistuse poolt mõeldud PÄRIS "puutini vastane" video, see "käi..." ka SIIS oleks ma selle vastu ja võtaks pigem Puutini kaitsja poole sellise lamesuse puhul sellise inimese suunas, mida Sa koer ropendades klähvid ütleks...
ma õiglane inimene lihtsalt :p
ma õiglane inimene lihtsalt :p
1 March 2015 11:21
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
See kes aru pole saanud, et Jevgeni Krištafovitš on SELGE agent, otsesemalt võõrvõimule alluv, siis ma küll ei mõista mida siin näha ei ole.. see "krse putin" video oli ka nii lame ja ilmselge, et kui oleks vägivaldne annaks peksa selle lamesuse eest, Eesti lipp käes, isegi mitte õige venelane..., teeb sellist madalalennulist kampaaniat.
(video oli siis mõeldud Eestlaste mõnitamiseks ja viha tekitamiseks Eestlaste vastu ning Eestlasi omakorda madala tasemelisusele meelitada ... nagu suvaline kaigas sinimustvalge lipp käes ropendades...
(video oli siis mõeldud Eestlaste mõnitamiseks ja viha tekitamiseks Eestlaste vastu ning Eestlasi omakorda madala tasemelisusele meelitada ... nagu suvaline kaigas sinimustvalge lipp käes ropendades...
1 March 2015 11:16
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
Kanepi osas ta ka tark ei ole seega päris tohtri haridust tal olla ei saa taimede alal, akadeemiline farmatoloogia mis on poliitiliselt kaalutletud (ehk kus siis ignoreeritakse neid taimi mida Rooma Geysririik pole siiani lubanud maa inimestel kasutada, (praegune poliitteater suures osas Greeka-Rooma ajast, sest viirus kandub edasi vaimus, suurem teema suts... vene ka ju kolmandaks roomaks kutsutakse, nodi endi poolt ka, uhkusega vist))
Kuid jah, onkel muidu inimese jutuna küll suts plära kuid ikkagi inimene, vist
Võtaks päästepaati küll kui valida oleks, aint taimi ja loodust peab ta suts tundma hakkama rohkem ja lipsu maha jätma
Kuid jah, onkel muidu inimese jutuna küll suts plära kuid ikkagi inimene, vist
Võtaks päästepaati küll kui valida oleks, aint taimi ja loodust peab ta suts tundma hakkama rohkem ja lipsu maha jätma
1 March 2015 11:06
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
Strateegiline kloun peab olema kes neid seisukohti saab välja öelda mida ametlikult ei sobi, testimaks rahva reageeringuid.
Või kuidas te arvate, et need tema enda isiklikud seisukohad ainult?
Või kuidas te arvate, et need tema enda isiklikud seisukohad ainult?
1 March 2015 11:01
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
http://www.pdcnet.org/collection-anonymous/browse?fp=signsystems&fq=signsystems%2FVolume%2F8958%7C42%2F8999%7CIssue%3A%201%2F also soviet in a way
http://www.pdcnet.org/collection-anonymous/browse?fp=signsystems&fq=signsystems%2FVolume%2F8958%7C42%2F8999%7CIssue%3A+1%2F
1 March 2015 02:12
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
You cup of interest : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Lotman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Lotman
1 March 2015 02:10
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
Have You read that soviet collapse book from amazon?
1 March 2015 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
noh, see info kõik avalik kus kuidas keegi toodab.
oluline on aru saada, et me selles osas meie riigile olulise maailma mastaapse haarangu teeksime kuni veel nii väike riigile see võimalus antud, selle asemel, et ise enda rahvale munadesse anda.
Siin tuleb globaalset potensiaali vaadta mis NAGUNII tuleb standardiks kogu planeedil, kuid vahe saab selles olema, kas kogu maailm meid mäletab ja seega meid ei saa ajalost ära pühkida ega kallale tulla keegi nii lihtsalt VÕI vaadatakse nagu eks soviet pätte ja siis teised meie mõeldud ideed panevad ise kokku ja teevad oma versiooni uuest maailma korrast kus meil pole midagi kunagi öelda enam
oluline on aru saada, et me selles osas meie riigile olulise maailma mastaapse haarangu teeksime kuni veel nii väike riigile see võimalus antud, selle asemel, et ise enda rahvale munadesse anda.
Siin tuleb globaalset potensiaali vaadta mis NAGUNII tuleb standardiks kogu planeedil, kuid vahe saab selles olema, kas kogu maailm meid mäletab ja seega meid ei saa ajalost ära pühkida ega kallale tulla keegi nii lihtsalt VÕI vaadatakse nagu eks soviet pätte ja siis teised meie mõeldud ideed panevad ise kokku ja teevad oma versiooni uuest maailma korrast kus meil pole midagi kunagi öelda enam
1 March 2015 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
Dear thinking "what is this fish doing here.. strange..."
1 March 2015 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
Group: Sulle-kes sa kõnnid vaimsel teerajal ja vajad teekaaslast, hingesugulast...
Ma küll väga sooviks olla mitte vaba kuid kahjuks ka ei ole vaba sest ei ole osanud välja mõedla kas on võimalik kedagi uuesti oma ellu tuua
ma printsessi ise loodan, et lendab ükspäev akna taha, aga noh.. ega see nii vist ei toimi.. arrgh, miks küll :D1 March 2015 01:01
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
Group: Sulle-kes sa kõnnid vaimsel teerajal ja vajad teekaaslast, hingesugulast...
Ühesõnaga riina Sa pole veel otsustanud.. et kas soovid kedagi kes kogu maailma läbi Sinu kogeks?1 March 2015 01:00
Margus Meigo commented on Helke Nurm's post.
Group: Sulle-kes sa kõnnid vaimsel teerajal ja vajad teekaaslast, hingesugulast...
Igasugused sellised võõrkultuuri kiir kohtingud nagu mine tea.. kui piiri pidada osatakse siis vast ika hea1 March 2015 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on Egle Liebenau's post.
Group: Sulle-kes sa kõnnid vaimsel teerajal ja vajad teekaaslast, hingesugulast...
Tema ikka päris hea,
ma ise ka arvasin juba mittu aastat tagasi, et banaanid teevad gayks ja siis jatsin söömise järgi (mõletan kui väike laps olin siis need mind ka öökima aeti, veel sovuti ka , et vene ajal.. niigi rase saada ja ma ei soovinud) .. ja siis loen tema kirjeldusest ja ütleb, et teeb "kergemeelseks" ... noh.. et oligi mingi tunnetus sinna kanti, et midagi kerglaseks mõtlemises võib teha..
ja veel mõne asja osas. Tema asju peab ikka uuesti rohkem lugema hakkama . )1 March 2015 00:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
muidu karatakse tühja igast võltsingute üle, siis vähemalt midagi reaalselt toimunud millesse ise ka uskuda võin, et polnud lavastus.
tsirkust peab saama kui leiba ei saa
tsirkust peab saama kui leiba ei saa
28 February 2015 23:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nu ma maksta nagunii ei jaksaks, mis tasuta võtan vastu ,juu se jumalat on
28 February 2015 23:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mul tegelt üks võlts ID kaart on, läheks prooviks kas sellega saan
28 February 2015 23:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ma ei saa hääletada sest mul pole raha ID ostmiseks (passi ka ei tea kus on, miski pätt kunagi varastas ära vist kui majasse sisse murti)
28 February 2015 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
NU aga mis moodi meil ei saa olla aimugi nodest asjadest..
28 February 2015 23:46
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
Tegelikult ma ei usu, et on võimalik raha puuduse pärast loobuda lastest kui inimene on piisavalt tark laste jaoks, enamus lihtsalt ei ole kuna süüakse liha ja muud arulagedat toitu, ideaalses maailmas liha sööjatel ei peaks lapseõigusi olemagi, kuid küll me kunagi sinna ka jõuame. Kes liha sööb see stressis ja raiskab ka kõige muu ebavajaliku peale raha nagu magus ja kohvi jms lisaks ravimid mida haigestudes vale toidu peal olijatel tihedamini vaja läheb.
Igatahes, 25 euroga piisab söögiks küll inimesele kitsal ajal kuuks ajaks, ja toetus rahad ju peaks olema tunduvalt suuremad lapse kohta. Kui inimene ei oska söönuks saada 25 eroga siis ta pole piisavalt elutark ega küps veel minu arust.
Muidugi vaja suuremas osas toetada .
Seega kindlasti, on võimalik praeguse rahaga inimestel mitut last üleval hoida, riideid saab kirikult pool muidu ja tallinnas veel supiköögid ka kus ei peaks häbenema keegi olla kui kitsas käes,
sest ega siis riik pole süüdi otseselt, et inimene läks maalt kus toit tasuta olemas suures osas, ja palju muud linna kalli elu peale kus ta siis omakorda maksab sellist üüri millega 10 aasta peale jõuaks osta palk maja maale.
Lihtsalt olegem ausad, enamus meist ei oska elada tagasihoidlikult.
Kuid see osa, mis riigi süü on, st mida ta ei ole julgenud oma rahvale rääkida mis mänge meiega siin tehakse... see juba omamoodi suur paragraaf. Suurem osa Eestist saaks suhteliselt üle keskmises rikkuses elatud, kui maa elu toimima pannakse, kanepi kasvatus, linase kasvatus, õunad, käsitöö kalli hinnaga välismaale ja endale ju vanasti iniesed oskasid riided ise teha, kuidas nüüd siis veel vähem osatakse ? Polnud elektrit ega midagi, nüüd nii odavalt saab pool muidu osta enamusi asju.
Muidugi ma ise mitu aastat olnud ilma rahata, aasta ka tänaval elanud, kuid see selleks, seda enam olen riiki austama hakanud sest näinud, et inimesed ise on külmad ja isekad
Igatahes, 25 euroga piisab söögiks küll inimesele kitsal ajal kuuks ajaks, ja toetus rahad ju peaks olema tunduvalt suuremad lapse kohta. Kui inimene ei oska söönuks saada 25 eroga siis ta pole piisavalt elutark ega küps veel minu arust.
Muidugi vaja suuremas osas toetada .
Seega kindlasti, on võimalik praeguse rahaga inimestel mitut last üleval hoida, riideid saab kirikult pool muidu ja tallinnas veel supiköögid ka kus ei peaks häbenema keegi olla kui kitsas käes,
sest ega siis riik pole süüdi otseselt, et inimene läks maalt kus toit tasuta olemas suures osas, ja palju muud linna kalli elu peale kus ta siis omakorda maksab sellist üüri millega 10 aasta peale jõuaks osta palk maja maale.
Lihtsalt olegem ausad, enamus meist ei oska elada tagasihoidlikult.
Kuid see osa, mis riigi süü on, st mida ta ei ole julgenud oma rahvale rääkida mis mänge meiega siin tehakse... see juba omamoodi suur paragraaf. Suurem osa Eestist saaks suhteliselt üle keskmises rikkuses elatud, kui maa elu toimima pannakse, kanepi kasvatus, linase kasvatus, õunad, käsitöö kalli hinnaga välismaale ja endale ju vanasti iniesed oskasid riided ise teha, kuidas nüüd siis veel vähem osatakse ? Polnud elektrit ega midagi, nüüd nii odavalt saab pool muidu osta enamusi asju.
Muidugi ma ise mitu aastat olnud ilma rahata, aasta ka tänaval elanud, kuid see selleks, seda enam olen riiki austama hakanud sest näinud, et inimesed ise on külmad ja isekad
28 February 2015 23:37
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
Natuke teemast mööda, aga ma vaatasin, et seinapeal on suur kandoom, aga see kell hoopis.
28 February 2015 23:16
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
nad teevad ulakaid selfisi, et siis teineteisele saata erutuse tõstmiseks
28 February 2015 23:15
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
..oled jah..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5212xi84us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5212xi84us
28 February 2015 23:11
Margus Meigo commented on Elari Kõivik's post.
Group: Jah, see on vegan!
Vau see tõesti supper tundub!
Tubli oled28 February 2015 23:06
Margus Meigo commented on Sirje Vilgo's post.
Group: Taimekaljade sõpruskond
Tervist : )28 February 2015 22:58
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: Kristlased
mõtlesingi, et mõõga asemel tal rist võiks käes olla... kuid noh, eks see mõõk ja rist mõnes mõttes olegi sarnased asjad28 February 2015 22:45
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
about soviets, they have not gone no where.. they just bigger and larger then ever
http://humansbank.blogspot.com/2015/01/corpus-planning.html
http://humansbank.blogspot.com/2015/01/corpus-planning.html
http://humansbank.blogspot.com/2015/01/corpus-planning.html
28 February 2015 22:38
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
am have to return back to this one
28 February 2015 22:32
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
Ya new camera?
28 February 2015 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
ya can save your money and come talk in first hand older Estonians or ex soviets.. they will tell you all details as for many of us a lot was common knowledge before secret reports leaked.. among people who read,
28 February 2015 17:22
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
But it is all same Roman empire with USA, .. to keep in mind..
and all other pentagrammers.. from pentagon to pakistan (now).. they just a bit greener
1818 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_20_Star_GreatStar_Flag.svg
1837 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_26_Star_GreatStar_Flag.svg
1859 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_33_Star_GreatStar_Flag.svg
what is difference between russia and usa flag colors and main symbolism.. (eagle.. stars..lines... colors.. oh and saving the world and science above nature and pure religion)
and all other pentagrammers.. from pentagon to pakistan (now).. they just a bit greener
1818 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_20_Star_GreatStar_Flag.svg
1837 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_26_Star_GreatStar_Flag.svg
1859 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_33_Star_GreatStar_Flag.svg
what is difference between russia and usa flag colors and main symbolism.. (eagle.. stars..lines... colors.. oh and saving the world and science above nature and pure religion)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_20_Star_GreatStar_Flag.svg
28 February 2015 17:16
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS8kuHZrN3A (minus the last 2 sentences)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS8kuHZrN3A
28 February 2015 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kadi Kadak's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Muidugi kanepist mitte ei olda "uimas" vaid kanepi mõte on Selgeks saada
kuid propakanda selle vastupidi keeranud nende põhjal kes ei tea kuidas mida ja miks kasutavad
see taim ikka jah, tarkuse ja selguse jaoks mõeldud
(seened, maagilised seened teevad veel selgemaks, need peaks lausa kohustuslikud olema tänapäeva Eesti inimestele väga mitmel põhjusel)28 February 2015 17:11
Margus Meigo commented on Kadi Kadak's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Samas IRL telgis noh, huumor ikka, huumori mõttes, kui mitte liiga tõsiselt võtta.
Kuid jama jah et nii tõsise ja oluliste asjadega, sedasi naljatatakse...
ravim oli ju eest iapteekides müügil enne seda kui meid vabastama tuldi 1918..28 February 2015 17:10
Margus Meigo commented on Kadi Kadak's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Selline käitumine nagu kanepi vastane selgelt, seda peaks vist aru saama.. nagu üldsuse silmas.
Kui oleks õige kanepi pooldaja siis ta jagaks kanepi kooke ja korralike info kogusi kust kaudu saab näha ja uurida koos juhistega kuidas kasvatada ja mida ja miks.
Selline plakat käes jätab sellise mulje et..28 February 2015 17:07
Margus Meigo commented on Ernesto E la Donne's post.
Group: Tutvus Soomes. Meet People In Finland.
Kui raha on siis soovitan osta maagilisi seeni ja neidudega koos ILMA alko ja suitsuta need soojas mugavas õrnade valgustustega hubases kodus, kus tekke varuks, ja puuviljasi nautimiseks (hoitke küünald selleks puhuks kui kogenenumad)
vot siis on sellne armsaim kogemus ja näed oma silmaga ka Tüdruku ilu sügavamalt .. õrnemaid külgi... meeldiv kogemus kogu eluks
(abiks www.erowid.com )http://www.erowid.com/
28 February 2015 15:46
Margus Meigo commented on Greg Slepak's post.
Group: Alan Watts
True-True28 February 2015 12:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
xD Reino
Nu jah, siis asi lahendatud, nu on agendid :D
Nu jah, siis asi lahendatud, nu on agendid :D
28 February 2015 11:56
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
Already the wording "big bang" comes from mindsets that need to be sayed not much about, its like made up by 14 years old
28 February 2015 04:03
Margus Meigo commented on William Floyd's photo.
almoust for playboy cover
28 February 2015 03:56
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's post.
thatswhy they call it vaccine, maybe its needed, for whatever the reason they make vaccine for..
28 February 2015 03:51
Margus Meigo commented on Aale Ti's post.
Group: Tutvus Soomes. Meet People In Finland.
Vibraator ikka on nendele inimestele mõeldud kes päris seksuaalsusest pole aru saanud sügavutti ja mida elektroonika väljad nii tundeliste kohtade peal teevad..
kuid noh, eks see kindlasti vast ikka normaalsem kui meestel sama olukord oleks.. naistel õnneks ka religioonis mastrubatsioon pole keelatud aga meestel see eriti kiiduväärt tegevus pole, eriti kui seda armastuse vabalt veel mõni teeb mõeldes naistele kes ei soovi, et neile mõeldakse (mõte ju loeb)28 February 2015 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on Sirle Luts's post.
Group: Tutvus Soomes. Meet People In Finland.
need kes alkoholiga naisega kohtingule lähevad, need alatud ja madala arusaamaga inimesed tuleks üldse date listist maha tõmmata kui vähegi rohkem teadlikud inimesed omavahel kokku soovivad saada28 February 2015 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on Randel Plaas's photo.
Nu nukrus vast ongi nii suur, et ajas sellise toidu järele :p
28 February 2015 01:03
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
nu nad mvõiks ju kohe selgituseks panna, et mis on värvikood mida arvuti näeb siis asi selge ju.
See inimese silm... hakata selle üle siin vaidlema.. muidugi eks ta õpetab siis inimestele suts arusaamu kui erinevalt me asju näeme.. (kuigi tõde on ikka üks)
See inimese silm... hakata selle üle siin vaidlema.. muidugi eks ta õpetab siis inimestele suts arusaamu kui erinevalt me asju näeme.. (kuigi tõde on ikka üks)
28 February 2015 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
No wonder some old methods freaked out other spiritual beings:
"... beliefs in Europe include the idea that carrying a bats eye around with you will allow you to turn invisible, that nailing a dead bat to your door will protect you from demns, that putting a drop of bats blood under a woman's pillow will help her be fruitful and that burning incense over the site of a bat buried at a crossroads would help you acquire a powerful love potion.
In Shakespeare's Macbeth, written 800 years ago, the witches brew a potion with:-
"Eye of newt and toe of frog,
Wool of bat and tongue of dog."
" http://www.earthlife.net/mammals/bat-man.html "
like this would be the only way to be invisible, Potter did not need a bat for that
neither do we (need to be invisible)
"... beliefs in Europe include the idea that carrying a bats eye around with you will allow you to turn invisible, that nailing a dead bat to your door will protect you from demns, that putting a drop of bats blood under a woman's pillow will help her be fruitful and that burning incense over the site of a bat buried at a crossroads would help you acquire a powerful love potion.
In Shakespeare's Macbeth, written 800 years ago, the witches brew a potion with:-
"Eye of newt and toe of frog,
Wool of bat and tongue of dog."
" http://www.earthlife.net/mammals/bat-man.html "
like this would be the only way to be invisible, Potter did not need a bat for that
neither do we (need to be invisible)
http://www.earthlife.net/mammals/bat-man.html
27 February 2015 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nagu mul täna oli
27 February 2015 18:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
Or some insights why the Koran and Hebrew scriptures letting us know about talking ants, ... so what is the best way to get in communication with various incests and birds?
Is there a plant spirits that are utterly against humans or is these plant kingdoms just invaded and we as humans, as middle link of all creation, should help them out ? (how is best? outside earth who to fallow?)
With so much of reading and amounts of god given enlightening tools there should (might) be some simple focused answers to it besides being able to tune in to my mind and beings, so You can know that this how you reply will be picked up by my state of minds27 February 2015 17:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
Bdw, with all this reading, can you explain who they talking about in Proverbs 8? Specially the 8:27..
or who is talking27 February 2015 17:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
Yes and with all that reading, did you get the realization that am right ?
Good selection of books anyway but tell me the basics, as whole tint of it is what have you been filtering out, what is needed and how is needed. I have jet to see any book that is to smart for me besides a bible27 February 2015 17:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
But am asked anyway, what is the realizations and truths that you come out from this amount of usage ?
Do You still plan to use, what and how ?
Did You realize that religions in deep are good ?
If not, then You still took to little i am sorry to say.. You know you should rather take them few times in small amounts and in complete quietness, with no lights (to prepare body for the power and respect and train the mind to be ready) and then a bit bigger amounts again in same settings, to really give in to yourself to the other rules from who you ask to cleanse yourself from wrong thinkings if there is some left in you.
Something like that, did You do and what was outcome ?27 February 2015 16:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
Yes i can be in another person sues, there is plants for that with what you can travel inside other human. Besides empathy and intelligence with small personal first hand experience.
I have planned to remove from Earth mush larger amount of people, before mushrooms and was on psychiatric medicine and had food disorder, before mushrooms. That took me to hell and back (or who knows, looking world sometimes am not so sure am back.. but anyway, then we need to work on hell to make that look and smell nice and healthy.)
So what realizations you was, had, just reading from a book people take it as academic philosophy that "Killing ain't good" .. perhaps one needs to see and feel that in face to face27 February 2015 16:54
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Izat's post.
You can see from the picture, that these people are not proper poor but lazy
as they do not care about keeping their surrounding clean and nice looking, so they do not care about a world or humans
I lived long with a homeless people and always it made me so sad and irritated to see how Little these fake homeless people cared about a world only demanded , but cared little about other homeless people ad a world, ... leaved dirt around and made other proper homeless people look bad
as they do not care about keeping their surrounding clean and nice looking, so they do not care about a world or humans
I lived long with a homeless people and always it made me so sad and irritated to see how Little these fake homeless people cared about a world only demanded , but cared little about other homeless people ad a world, ... leaved dirt around and made other proper homeless people look bad
27 February 2015 16:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
Martin this was maybe a waste if you run around in this amounts and not integrating this to natural and spiritual religious awareness life, first i thought you was ironic but then i saw your old screen name.
So can You post also what extra did you learn from all of that you did not get after first five travels?
Some simple ones from me:
1. World will die with out art (human at least as that makes needed connections in brain to advance our imagination)
2. Inside trees is a fields that can get us in to another dimensions of world (or something like that, besides that they are alive)
3. Women is more similar to something like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRui2xTxNms then just a "individual"
4. Everything is simple
5. Everything is high level
7. Inside time is times.. (or some might say time is expendable, or we can pay attention to time or flow with it to stay in that wave and then enter again in to body time..)
8. You can cal up a death in a trip so you can get more trusting in life
+ that am can save the world and that nature is the smart one around us that some one seems to do something , in our minds or in a words that is generated from our minds and our body might be in some other place but really good to ...
Oh and other ideas sound less earthly and more far out
but mostly simple ones like "Mother is good", "there is difference between good and less good", "all art is not equal", "vegetarianism is correct", "fol music is smart", "alcohol is useless when evolved"... and "kingdoms can be good, but.."
You know some simple ones like that can You please share
(i was before a bit of criminal, meat eating, drinking, rock music like and in heart sucked up to likeness of these parts of system that seemed most admired and useful as they looked good )https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRui2xTxNms
27 February 2015 16:32
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Elektromagneetiline kiirgus, mis see on ?
Oi, kas mina ?27 February 2015 15:49
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Ettevaatust - meditsiin! Tähelepanu - tõhus ravi!
nii koleda logoga propakandat küll levitada ei soovi27 February 2015 15:48
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Elektromagneetiline kiirgus, mis see on ?
Inga, nagu ma ütlesin, need kahjulikud mõjud on PÕHJUS miks need asjad on pandud meie seka mitte kõrvalmõju.
Kui need ära eemaldatakse siis nad juba muid mooduseid leidnud.. millega tegeleda tuleb on nende liikidega planedil kes selliseid asju teadlikult toodavad ja promovad lips sees.
EU pirni seaduse osas mingit uuringut poel vaja ilmselgelt kõigile teada, et LED lamp on kasulikum mõõtlatult kui mürgilamp mida eelistatult promotakse ja seadusega sunduslikuks suures osas riikides tehti, siin ei ole, et keegi kõrgel "ei teaks" millega tegu, see on võimatu, lihtsalt meie ajusi saab teatud tasemel regullida nii kuidas vaja... ja need kelle ninad kõrgel on, nende eest kantakse hoolt, et nad mõtleks nii nagu vajalik on agenda jaoks.27 February 2015 15:44
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Elektromagneetiline kiirgus, mis see on ?
Lühidalt lahendus arvan endiselt, psühhedeelikumid ja praeguse süsteemi siseselt integreerida vajalikus ja mida iganes toetame peab see alati olema emajärgsel fundamendil, üks suund millega peame alati nõustuma, muidu ei ole suurt lootust kui pole universaalset tõde mille osas vaba südamega saame nõustuda,
siis lihtne alati järgi vaadata kas mingi firma, filosoofia või poliitika on tõe suunaline või lihtsalt imitatsioon tõest eemale tõmbamiseks.
Sest on asju ja tõdesi mida ei saa petta ja mis on alati tõesed27 February 2015 15:24
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Elektromagneetiline kiirgus, mis see on ?
Waadake inimesed (nagu savisaar ütleb)
Kuna need kiirgused pole kogematta vaid meelega tehtud ja need seadmed mida kasutame on selle pärast, et oli vaja midagi mis kiirgaks mitte polnud vaja neid seadmeid ja siis kõrvalmõju selline,
siis sellise "avastusega" me kuskile ei jõua, sest selle tarvis juba ette valmistatud mitu valli tarku ja mitte nii tarku.
Looduse vastane võitlus käib väga ammusest ajast ja see, et sellest teadlik oleme on lihtsalt jumala tõestus, et loodus suudab isegi sellises olukorras hoida meid ärkvel kui heasse usume, kuid kuna käib täielik inimeste lahterdamine siis võid olla täiesti kindel, et kui lastakse sõda tulla, siis see pole sõda teiste baaside vastu (see pole peaaegu kunagi olnud viimasel sajandil) vaid nende isikuteja nende tuttavate suunas kes on teada, kes on millest huvitatud.
Seega ilma IGASUGUSE liialduseta, hirmutamata ja paanikat tegematta, võid olla enam kui kindel, et KÕIK, koos sõprade ja peredega kes on kunagi kokku positiivselt puutunud Tingi, Ravitesjate gruppide, internetis tehtud ürituste ja huvidega kristallide või taimede osas jne on listis, vastavalt grupi ohtlikusele kelle teadmised kõige enam kahjulikud saavad olema tuleviku ühtses elektroonika maailmas kus telepaatia saab tehnika ja keemia abil võimalikudeks turvalisuse piires.
Et siis need tarkused, selles "uues internetis" ei oleks nii vabalt saadaval, sest ei ole MINGI uudis vana Kreeka-Rooma sõduritele südamega täis ravitsemised ja taimemaailmaga suhtlused, see elementaarne mille põhjal nad on ehitanud tehnoloogia JA haridus ning poliitlise süsteemi mis kindlustaks, tuleviku kontrolli kuni ajaks kui saab (ja kõige lõpus, kuna nad teavad elementaarset tõde, nad ka vabalt võivad hüpata naeratades õigele poolele kõige lõpus ning need kes nedne vastu siis on saavad keahuselt karistada... neil on ka mitu erinevat kaotuse plaani valmis mõeldud mitte ainult oletatavad võidu plaanid kus iseseisvaid planeedi süsteeme on ammusest ajast üritanud luua koos kogu flooraga, hinge äriks või milleks eks te tea ise mis kõige enam väärt on siin ilmas peale naise )27 February 2015 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek Saviir's photo.
Päris asjalik : )
27 February 2015 15:07
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek Saviir's post.
nendel pole päris usklikutega miskit pistmist,
valitsusel peaks ammu olema nende tegelaste täis profiilid üleval sellest kui usklikud nad vabal ajal on, tehnika on selleks juba ammu olemas
valitsusel peaks ammu olema nende tegelaste täis profiilid üleval sellest kui usklikud nad vabal ajal on, tehnika on selleks juba ammu olemas
27 February 2015 12:16
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek Saviir's post.
Muidugi see kõik on disainitud, sest need kaamera mehed küll ei näi väga häiritud olema sellest, arvatvasti oli vaja midagi päriselt ära hävitada mida ajaloose ei jääks.. + agresioon..
IS ise ka jah.. moslemite arvates Eriteenistuse kasvatatud tegelased selleks, et päris religiooni vastu saaks avatumalt võitlema hakata.
Päris moslemid tegelevad tarkusega, nad võtaksid need pärgamendid ja seletaksid läbi püha vaimu ära miks üks või teine asi on õige või vale ja kust need päridud on. Ja siis annaks nad avalikule domeenile tagasi, nad pole nii ebakindlad endas, et taoliste asjadega tegelema peavad. Ja need kes on arengu puudega, iseseisvalt ei saaks nii palju meedia aega, kuulsust ja ruumi kõige selle muu kõrval mis maailmas toimub.
Muidugi kui mingid inimeste tehtud kujud pahu vaime või haisu täis on, siis jah, neid vast nad ikka... vb see nende enda kivi ka seal mida kummardavad ja ei tohiks tuleks puhkusele saata siis...aga siis peaks olema rahvusvahelisem spiritualistide kogu kes nõustub mis energiaga mingi kuju on, saaks igavese hunniku nõia ella või intsu saateid sellest ketrata
IS ise ka jah.. moslemite arvates Eriteenistuse kasvatatud tegelased selleks, et päris religiooni vastu saaks avatumalt võitlema hakata.
Päris moslemid tegelevad tarkusega, nad võtaksid need pärgamendid ja seletaksid läbi püha vaimu ära miks üks või teine asi on õige või vale ja kust need päridud on. Ja siis annaks nad avalikule domeenile tagasi, nad pole nii ebakindlad endas, et taoliste asjadega tegelema peavad. Ja need kes on arengu puudega, iseseisvalt ei saaks nii palju meedia aega, kuulsust ja ruumi kõige selle muu kõrval mis maailmas toimub.
Muidugi kui mingid inimeste tehtud kujud pahu vaime või haisu täis on, siis jah, neid vast nad ikka... vb see nende enda kivi ka seal mida kummardavad ja ei tohiks tuleks puhkusele saata siis...aga siis peaks olema rahvusvahelisem spiritualistide kogu kes nõustub mis energiaga mingi kuju on, saaks igavese hunniku nõia ella või intsu saateid sellest ketrata
27 February 2015 12:14
Margus Meigo commented on Eelika Palu's post.
Group: UUSI TUTVUSI
Oh Sind..27 February 2015 10:19
Margus Meigo commented on Nana Kojo's post.
Same here, sega ruled
27 February 2015 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
Kuid mitte mingil juhul selliseid ei tohi piinata ega haiget teha, muidu endale sisse tuleb nende vaim
26 February 2015 14:11
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
Ja kui on päriselt selline inimene, siis pole ta ohtlik koertele ainult vaid inimkonnale, tuleb viia metsa koos pomis nööriga ja kaela panna ja siis vaadata kas ta sellel hetkel saab aru mida ta teinud on või ei saa, kui ei saa siis pole ka hullu kui sohu visata, (päriselt räägin) kuid eelistaksin veel enne sohu viskamist katsetada psühhedeelikumidega, ehk nende kaudu ta ise endast saab rüveda vaimu välja, see ei aita kui psühiaatria haiglas inimese "Korda teed" sest samast kaliibrist vale mõtlemine jääb ikka alles, kui korda teha siis juba olulistes asjades täielikult
26 February 2015 14:02
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
Kuidas need tatoo pildid tema kätest saadud on? Need teise inimese omad tunduvad.Need käed tundusid jah kahtlased..
Muidugi kui inimene seda Randot lasnamäelt tunneb siis kus on ta täis nimi ja aadress, miks seda pole pandud?
Igasuguseid haigeid nalju tehakse, mitme eri tasemel olla ettevaatlik
Sellise asjaga tuleb mitmel tasemel tegutseda
Muidugi kui inimene seda Randot lasnamäelt tunneb siis kus on ta täis nimi ja aadress, miks seda pole pandud?
Igasuguseid haigeid nalju tehakse, mitme eri tasemel olla ettevaatlik
Sellise asjaga tuleb mitmel tasemel tegutseda
26 February 2015 12:01
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
i think they try to save a fuel
by fling with a small airplane the big one
that has load on
but to big engine
.
by fling with a small airplane the big one
that has load on
but to big engine
.
26 February 2015 03:22
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
You joking right
26 February 2015 03:16
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
http://en.folklore.ee/ page to send to Her crew...
Wish would have done that before..
Wish would have done that before..
http://en.folklore.ee/
26 February 2015 03:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Can You imagine, this is like my most famous profile post out of all my postings. 100 shares.
... Sex, Poltics, Powerful man and righteus anarchism and You got a winner.
Newer mind all these mind expanding posts in last 7 years
... Sex, Poltics, Powerful man and righteus anarchism and You got a winner.
Newer mind all these mind expanding posts in last 7 years
26 February 2015 03:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Between Mauritania and Mali Hany Mohamed Sabry
26 February 2015 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
oh sind babrbarit, näppudega :p
limps limps
limps limps
26 February 2015 03:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Can You?
26 February 2015 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
lol, the logo is still on their website
26 February 2015 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Looduse Loojate Loojad .:. ( Makers of Natures Greators )
26 February 2015 02:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Jaime", he says, "wake up"! Jaime answers, "I don't want to get up. Papa". The father shouts, "Get up, you have to go to school". J aime says, "I don't want to go to school". "Why not"? asks the father. "Three reasons", says Jaime. "First, because it's so dull; second, the kids tease me; and third, I hate school".
And the father says, "Well, I am going to give you three reasons why you must go to school. First, because it is your duty; second, because you are forty-five years old, and third, because you are the headmaster"
And the father says, "Well, I am going to give you three reasons why you must go to school. First, because it is your duty; second, because you are forty-five years old, and third, because you are the headmaster"
26 February 2015 02:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And some more harsh happy clear words from Father Anthony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b8TLQh4Q84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b8TLQh4Q84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b8TLQh4Q84
26 February 2015 01:48
Margus Meigo commented on Rafael Campos's post.
Group: Atheism is fact
actually aliens are able to turn off nuclear but these species here just spread.. we got to hadle it ourself, by starting to live proper25 February 2015 23:56
Margus Meigo commented on Faraz Asad's post.
Group: Atheism is fact
Not so bad punsihment for doing something so retarded, what did he expect.
But it would be more better to excommunicate people like that globaly25 February 2015 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on Damien Holsters's post.
Group: Atheism is fact
It is more true then we would like to imagine.. it is even worst they do in a woods where is many magic worlds25 February 2015 23:53
Margus Meigo commented on Ann Joyce's post.
Group: Atheism is fact
I know right, but they are still allowed to make this kind of statement and pass in academy as avarage normal humans.
MOst humans even not in touch with magic mushroom or none of the healing plants.
What is use of this species like this.25 February 2015 23:52
Margus Meigo commented on Ann Joyce's post.
Group: Atheism is fact
this is actually considered reversed version by religious peole long time ago but god did not allow.
It is like these beings have to evolve from monkey mind to higher mind by them self not by forced ways,
...
these kind of lectures really help to pick up some missing parts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQx-MlpZotwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQx-MlpZotw
25 February 2015 23:31
Margus Meigo commented on Andy WeightmanPilv's post.
Group: Atheism is fact
on 21 century there is still millions of people, some estimate hundreds of millions human like beings who imagine that darvinism, evolution as it is shown in school is the final base of real life related to our species greation.
This is amazing how we come so far and still, we have not institutalanlized these kind of mind setts. They can even be on public TV some and talk as equals.
these kind of knowings should be like minimum:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQx-MlpZotwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQx-MlpZotw
25 February 2015 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Thank You Sir William for being here
25 February 2015 23:08
Margus Meigo commented on Dennis Wilen's post.
Group: cDc Ninja Strike Force
Jon Doe in fact there is Weed Cast where new age shamans will link in people on weed in a virtual mind space what he makes in where humans can interact ower a world, they first will sync up ower a web and then tune in directly wit ha mind inside each other mind webs as Weed Cast25 February 2015 23:02
Margus Meigo commented on Sergei Tšekmarjov's post.
Group: Ema "Maa" lapsed
have on aint Nazariidi kohta liialt pügatud : )25 February 2015 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Andersen's post.
Group: Ema "Maa" lapsed
Marek Männiksaar
Ristiusu eesmärk, on inimesi valedest vaimumaailmadest päästa, et kõige lihtsamalt turvalisele eneseavastamise teele saata selle inimliigi jaoks Demo(n)-kraatia.. aga proovib kogu väest hingelist ühedust eemaldada tehes muud kreeka-rooma religiooni vastast teatrit.
Väline kes tava inimese silmis jah, on mõlema mõiste elu paremaks teha kuid ühel on see päriselt vaimsetel arusaamadel põhinevalt, arusaades,et on draakonid, nõiad, tulnukad ja muud olendid ammu enne meid samal ajal kui demokraatia aga proovib meil heaolu teha sedasi, et meid mitte mõtlema panna võimalikusele ja lihtsalt tarbida ja areneda akadeemiliselt, et saaksid teha seda mida ette öeldakse mitte seda mida Su hing kutsub
Päris erinev ikka
(risti sõdalased olid usu vastased hell-e-nistidest ja roomlastest ja normannidest sõdalased, inimeste põletamised olid ka vanad normannide ohverdus rituaalid node tule jumalale. Juute ja munkasi nad tapsid väga ohtralt. )25 February 2015 22:45
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: THE Kool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lXtEuKiikIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lXtEuKiikI
25 February 2015 22:22
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: THE Kool
http://www.postimees.ee/1315490/20-kooli-hakkavad-kiusamisele-vastuhttp://www.postimees.ee/1315490/20-kooli-hakkavad-kiusamisele-vastu
25 February 2015 22:21
Margus Meigo commented on Stella Shakti's post.
Group: Tähetarkus
Maagilised seened üldse Sind saavad huvitavatesse internettidesse viia...25 February 2015 22:01
Margus Meigo commented on Eelika Palu's post.
Group: UUSI TUTVUSI
16 naised juba sellised holliwoodid tänapäeval - )25 February 2015 21:59
Margus Meigo commented on Simo Savioja's post.
Group: Punk pole punane
Küll nad veel õpivad : )
Mõlemad25 February 2015 20:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Punk pole punane
( kuid mitte sassi ajada siis teiste lindudega, et olge jahis olles valves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l23wDDAr1Fs )https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l23wDDAr1Fs
25 February 2015 20:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: PUNK ROCK ESTONIA
( kuid mitte sassi ajada siis teiste lindudega, et olge jahis olles valves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l23wDDAr1Fs )https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l23wDDAr1Fs
25 February 2015 20:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yeye, in a upfront of time
He will train (pet) the Fire and the Water
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZJIKO1vijg
He will train (pet) the Fire and the Water
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZJIKO1vijg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZJIKO1vijg
25 February 2015 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on Merilin Ehasalu's post.
Group: armastus
GG Vv mis?
Sellistel kommentaari "sõdadel" peaks olema ikka mõte ka, et eelmine komm eelmistega ühtib, või vähemalt kõige viimasega, niisama tähti panna siis nagu alaarenguga oleksime
vot sulle ggg :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZJIKO1vijghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZJIKO1vijg
25 February 2015 20:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ere
25 February 2015 02:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Other videos: http://www.newearth.community/groups/the-nature-of-psychedelic-plants-and-minds-as-of-in-memory-of-alan-watts-and-abrahamic-shamans/
http://www.newearth.community/groups/the-nature-of-psychedelic-plants-and-minds-as-of-in-memory-of-alan-watts-and-abrahamic-shamans/
25 February 2015 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on Michael Francis's post.
Group: Atheism is fact
they are yong, we are used with retardation25 February 2015 01:55
Margus Meigo commented on Andy WeightmanPilv's post.
Group: Atheism is fact
Hear some of that http://www.newearth.community/groups/the-nature-of-psychedelic-plants-and-minds-as-of-in-memory-of-alan-watts-and-abrahamic-shamans/forum/topic/awakening/25 February 2015 01:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In shorter 2 minute way from allan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXi_ldNRNtM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXi_ldNRNtM
25 February 2015 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
some other way of talking about dreams: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Geu6qQlBdVI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Geu6qQlBdVI
24 February 2015 20:14
Margus Meigo commented on Andy WeightmanPilv's post.
Group: Atheism is fact
and that is still more near to truth then imagining that "it is natural and normal"24 February 2015 20:09
Margus Meigo commented on Anneli Ohvril's post.
Kuid jah, veel teenuseid:
http://full-timewhistle.com/technology-22/chinese-need-to-bypass-state-internet-censorship-for-reaching-gmail-google-instagram-and-flicker-5482.html
Kuid see millegiks ikka hea
http://full-timewhistle.com/technology-22/chinese-need-to-bypass-state-internet-censorship-for-reaching-gmail-google-instagram-and-flicker-5482.html
Kuid see millegiks ikka hea
http://full-timewhistle.com/technology-22/chinese-need-to-bypass-state-internet-censorship-for-reaching-gmail-google-instagram-and-flicker-5482.html
24 February 2015 15:53
Margus Meigo commented on Anneli Ohvril's post.
koored on need kõige maitsvamad osad kui osa kodumaalisi veel ei tea
24 February 2015 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on Anneli Ohvril's post.
On tegeleased,
Kuid noh, õnneks vene meil iteenus on kätte saadav ja see ona ka päris hea..
Kuid noh, õnneks vene meil iteenus on kätte saadav ja see ona ka päris hea..
24 February 2015 15:43
Margus Meigo commented on Anneli Ohvril's photo.
Supper anneli : )
24 February 2015 15:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
wild quessing AWSM has nice toys for winter games end as well
24 February 2015 15:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Need pole kurvad
24 February 2015 14:44
Margus Meigo commented on Kairit Tuhkanen's photo.
Sii on Tore
24 February 2015 14:24
Margus Meigo commented on Kai Kulbok's photo.
Allmighty got all the feelings there is : )
24 February 2015 14:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
interesting way for you prooving not to be intrested to reply. Cute You are
24 February 2015 14:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
we invented sarcasm
24 February 2015 13:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
told you so
24 February 2015 13:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yes
24 February 2015 13:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
õnneks levib jah islam
ja kui me kristluse alustalasi selgeks ei õpi ja sinna peale sutsu seeni, siis uus usklikel igasugune õigus euroopa endale võtta, sest kommunistlikud paganad kes aitavad loodust hävitada ja idiootsust juurutada pole ka see mida meil vaja on ja mis elus järgmised aastatuhanded hoiaks
lõpuks muidugi me eestlased koos Vedicute ja Juutidega peame neile kõigile seletama kus kes tulid ja kuidas tehti, kui mitte usklikud on paigas omadega, kuid seniks, minuarust moslemid pigem kõvasti tõstavad EU IQd ja kaitsevad täieliku vaimupuuduse ja väljapühkimise eest, ainult lõdvapüksikummiga eurooplased saavad need olema kes bioloogiliselt saavad välja pühitud
ja kui me kristluse alustalasi selgeks ei õpi ja sinna peale sutsu seeni, siis uus usklikel igasugune õigus euroopa endale võtta, sest kommunistlikud paganad kes aitavad loodust hävitada ja idiootsust juurutada pole ka see mida meil vaja on ja mis elus järgmised aastatuhanded hoiaks
lõpuks muidugi me eestlased koos Vedicute ja Juutidega peame neile kõigile seletama kus kes tulid ja kuidas tehti, kui mitte usklikud on paigas omadega, kuid seniks, minuarust moslemid pigem kõvasti tõstavad EU IQd ja kaitsevad täieliku vaimupuuduse ja väljapühkimise eest, ainult lõdvapüksikummiga eurooplased saavad need olema kes bioloogiliselt saavad välja pühitud
24 February 2015 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's post.
Maybe
24 February 2015 00:51
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's photo.
Wau, supper kampsik
24 February 2015 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's post.
if they keep it up like that..
23 February 2015 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's post.
God is so fed upwith people, it was cold people all who can not pay pill and freeze winter ask for warmer and say they do not like cold... then its given global warming they get wormer.. then they start to make campaing against that.. now tey are given ice age and now again problem...
ah there people.. need to pur them ower with a fire or a water all togheder once more
ah there people.. need to pur them ower with a fire or a water all togheder once more
23 February 2015 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yes and what did it say?
23 February 2015 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
". That's when she ask him if that's what get him off, hurting girls. She leaves, he finds her and after an argument, he says, "why didn't you use the safe word". I just read it. I'd re-read it if I were you."
"that's what Ana says in the book. STOP! That's why Christian doesn't stop because she forgot to say RED. It's in the second book when she argues with Christian that she forgot to say the safe word but he still should have stopped."
And if you think you can remember under forced orgasms the words or a world ..midddle of soul breaking... then you no have had the orgasms probabaly.
This is the darknes of it all extra besides alright for robot minded beings who not able to train feeling part of them self to feel when what is needed.. just commands.. seriouslly..
http://www.marieclaire.com/culture/news/a13257/fifty-shades-ending/?mag=mar&click=yr
but it is nation wide chrisis as these beings doing the sould breaking and now there is greatly more pray to catch.. and they access aother realms using women to extract information about Life what they want to concure.
... so right now mass human invasion is goin on must deeper level in large scale.. turning many womens in to non womens top of it..
and people worry about their "cyber toy securitys" .. when the REAL inter life web is hacked front of us, using for pray and tricking our own media and tols and greativity... so sick front of us.. but must repsect it, as it is a war for them so no need to get emotionaly angry about it, to late for that
"that's what Ana says in the book. STOP! That's why Christian doesn't stop because she forgot to say RED. It's in the second book when she argues with Christian that she forgot to say the safe word but he still should have stopped."
And if you think you can remember under forced orgasms the words or a world ..midddle of soul breaking... then you no have had the orgasms probabaly.
This is the darknes of it all extra besides alright for robot minded beings who not able to train feeling part of them self to feel when what is needed.. just commands.. seriouslly..
http://www.marieclaire.com/culture/news/a13257/fifty-shades-ending/?mag=mar&click=yr
but it is nation wide chrisis as these beings doing the sould breaking and now there is greatly more pray to catch.. and they access aother realms using women to extract information about Life what they want to concure.
... so right now mass human invasion is goin on must deeper level in large scale.. turning many womens in to non womens top of it..
and people worry about their "cyber toy securitys" .. when the REAL inter life web is hacked front of us, using for pray and tricking our own media and tols and greativity... so sick front of us.. but must repsect it, as it is a war for them so no need to get emotionaly angry about it, to late for that
http://www.marieclaire.com/culture/news/a13257/fifty-shades-ending/?mag=mar&click=yr
23 February 2015 17:32
Margus Meigo commented on Christian Anders FANS und DAS BUCH DES Lichts's link.
was that bad or good?
23 February 2015 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
About internet : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3GMBQzeDXg
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Someone else commenting:
(still not the best, just extra)
Christian Anders Learning Channel
5 kuud tagasi already the demand for happiness and bliss leads to attachment.
LET GO OF HIM! This man is totally wrong. And I will explain to you why. ANY kind of happiness experienced through BODY CHEMISTRY is ALWAYS leading to pain and suffering, sooner or later, because of its transciency. This guy wants to prolong this physical chemistry of happiness, and leads you with it directly in the swamp of ANATTA, of nonself and accumulated suffering, latest when the prolonged "Bliss" chemistry ends, and IT WILL END.
BUT REAL AND LASTING PEACE is easier and meditative to achieve. Read DIVINE MESSAGE FROM THE TRUE GOD NIRVANA (german and english in one book). Body, emotion and mind are NOT YOU. They are ANATTA. Let go of them in seelenatem meditation, and true immortality will be yours. DIVINE MESSAGE FROM THE TRUE GOD (german and english in one book) http://www.amazon.de/Die-Botschaft-wahren-Gottes-Nirvana-Buddhismus/dp/3937699139/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1410189024&sr=8-1&keywords=die+botschaft+des+wahren+gottes
LISTEN TO THE MANTRA AND BE HAPPY http://www.amazon.de/Om-Mani-Padme-Hum-Meditation/dp/B00I9W21O4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1410190146&sr=8-2&keywords=die+mantra+lanoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3GMBQzeDXg
---
Someone else commenting:
(still not the best, just extra)
Christian Anders Learning Channel
5 kuud tagasi already the demand for happiness and bliss leads to attachment.
LET GO OF HIM! This man is totally wrong. And I will explain to you why. ANY kind of happiness experienced through BODY CHEMISTRY is ALWAYS leading to pain and suffering, sooner or later, because of its transciency. This guy wants to prolong this physical chemistry of happiness, and leads you with it directly in the swamp of ANATTA, of nonself and accumulated suffering, latest when the prolonged "Bliss" chemistry ends, and IT WILL END.
BUT REAL AND LASTING PEACE is easier and meditative to achieve. Read DIVINE MESSAGE FROM THE TRUE GOD NIRVANA (german and english in one book). Body, emotion and mind are NOT YOU. They are ANATTA. Let go of them in seelenatem meditation, and true immortality will be yours. DIVINE MESSAGE FROM THE TRUE GOD (german and english in one book) http://www.amazon.de/Die-Botschaft-wahren-Gottes-Nirvana-Buddhismus/dp/3937699139/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1410189024&sr=8-1&keywords=die+botschaft+des+wahren+gottes
LISTEN TO THE MANTRA AND BE HAPPY http://www.amazon.de/Om-Mani-Padme-Hum-Meditation/dp/B00I9W21O4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1410190146&sr=8-2&keywords=die+mantra+lanoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3GMBQzeDXg
23 February 2015 01:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
no sht sherloc some might add
but still good to hear
but still good to hear
23 February 2015 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ma olen Margus
22 February 2015 23:56
Margus Meigo commented on "Українська правда"'s link.
Something Spiritual:
(if you think about it, it is nice and pure, and true in many levels)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205157213946690
(if you think about it, it is nice and pure, and true in many levels)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205157213946690
22 February 2015 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on Cop Block's link.
This is really messed up
22 February 2015 21:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Estonia isam heads and religious leaders are sending support to the Estonia Jewish Community
is the headline
is the headline
22 February 2015 21:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ega seda nad loodavatki, et endale ise kuuli pähe laseme.. ega see ei aita... tuleb meie enda aidatud segadus ikka korda teha.
Ise oleme kahe käega seda süsteemi toetanud iga kord kui ostame suitsu või viina või muid mass tooteid mis inimvastaselt valu ja vaevaga toodetud mida tegelikult vaja ei lähe ja mis meile kahjulikud pikas plaanis.
Igakord kui oleme nende heaks tööd teinud või muud.. oleme toetanud ja austanud neid... seega, ise aitasime selle süsteemi teha, inimliigina... (kuigi jah, vallutajatena, kavalatena, tuldi ja kasutati me headust meie vastu.. kuid ainult headust kasutades nad meid konksu otsa poleks saanud... ju ikka selle pärast ,et oma vana vanemaid me i osanud kuulda... viisnurga süsteem on vana, mitte küll iidne, kuid meie mõistes vähemalt Kreeka ajast ja kojast )
Ise oleme kahe käega seda süsteemi toetanud iga kord kui ostame suitsu või viina või muid mass tooteid mis inimvastaselt valu ja vaevaga toodetud mida tegelikult vaja ei lähe ja mis meile kahjulikud pikas plaanis.
Igakord kui oleme nende heaks tööd teinud või muud.. oleme toetanud ja austanud neid... seega, ise aitasime selle süsteemi teha, inimliigina... (kuigi jah, vallutajatena, kavalatena, tuldi ja kasutati me headust meie vastu.. kuid ainult headust kasutades nad meid konksu otsa poleks saanud... ju ikka selle pärast ,et oma vana vanemaid me i osanud kuulda... viisnurga süsteem on vana, mitte küll iidne, kuid meie mõistes vähemalt Kreeka ajast ja kojast )
22 February 2015 20:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Paneks kaks laiki kui saaks, väga hea Andreas!
22 February 2015 20:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Yes the spirits in a woods are the ones who keep these aliens in order and us safe, God does not live in a penthouse
22 February 2015 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You can meet them if You want, lets go to woods,
22 February 2015 02:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Did You read FULL post of mine where you commenting ?
22 February 2015 02:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
like so simple.. "these God given tools made permanent gift in you so ... now lets see how we can put that in to use and develop that.."
at least should be scientific people interest and reaction22 February 2015 02:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. does this songs sound like underground ? For me more like life : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jZ8VNANHwM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jZ8VNANHwM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jZ8VNANHwM
21 February 2015 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
Great post . )
21 February 2015 23:53
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
and now adding that to some shamanistic and spiritual vision what really happens.. would be great (as all material we can see is results of what really happens..)
21 February 2015 23:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Mis ma nüüd tegin :D
21 February 2015 22:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
who talked about hellboy? This post was for Elemental,
21 February 2015 22:32
Margus Meigo commented on Simo Savioja's post.
Group: Punk pole punane
"It's a very racist, especially in Africa. It is incitement to hatred in South Africa to use that word so we really needed to remove that name, says Erland Jirle"
Kurdame siis neile ka, et Valge Toonekurg on väga solvav, mõtle... seovad linnu nime ära inimesega... iiiiiu... mustast rongast ei hakka rääkimagi..
WTF nagu, kui siis linnule on see solvav kui neid inimeste nimedega kutsutakse, inimese millisele iganes grupile on see suur austus kui neid loodusega siduda.
//
Lõuna Aafrika.. jeerum., Kõige valgem riik aafrikas, Seal olles mustad ise küsisid mult suure uudishimuga kas saaksin miskeid rassistlike nalju jagada ja siis jagasid ise ka enda kohta, meelde ei jäänud eriti kuid nalja suund oli ülikondisus nälgivus ja värvus.21 February 2015 21:33
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
tõsi ta on
21 February 2015 20:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
I took it maybe a bit to literally
21 February 2015 16:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Jorge, I Do Jorge, i really do. ...who else knows?
Jep Ilves She is viral now. Evolution of expressions to man.. can not get more literal then that i guess, Womens last hope, if Man fail the ability to read also what they see... would be these machine embreos all ower again soon.
--
Probabaly only thing She can regret now "i should not have been shaved.." .. but i guess for rare artist sacrifices that might be acceptable.
Jep Ilves She is viral now. Evolution of expressions to man.. can not get more literal then that i guess, Womens last hope, if Man fail the ability to read also what they see... would be these machine embreos all ower again soon.
--
Probabaly only thing She can regret now "i should not have been shaved.." .. but i guess for rare artist sacrifices that might be acceptable.
21 February 2015 16:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
What You mean by, belive?
21 February 2015 16:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You think it is based on pure fiction only ?
21 February 2015 16:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. More more Quation guy to tie it up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HkPioVvU8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HkPioVvU8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HkPioVvU8k
21 February 2015 02:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
"Channel's PLAYLIST called "YOUR Real IDENTITY [Part 2]". Its in a better chronological order*******
"The Root of the Deception is in Language... Think about that for a moment.
When you set the parameters of language, you have the power to manipulate the people who use it. And of course, the 'powers that be' have been controlling the "strawman" through fraudulent conveyance of language for aeons.
However, if you discovered that language (just like everything else on earth) has a MATHEMATICAL INTERFACE, and through it comes a FACTUAL structure that cannot 'allegedly' be challenged, what would you do..?
For what its worth, this is quite fascinating!
http://www.davidwynnmiller.com
" A Side note:
When it comes to Quantum Language David is certainly the go-to man, but there are some things he says about the masons and the illuminati, which intuitively I'm not sold on. So for myself, I have taken what I feel is relevant and have dropped the rest."" (well.. i guess the uploader knows better then.. will see)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHcRWyB1wj0
"Channel's PLAYLIST called "YOUR Real IDENTITY [Part 2]". Its in a better chronological order*******
"The Root of the Deception is in Language... Think about that for a moment.
When you set the parameters of language, you have the power to manipulate the people who use it. And of course, the 'powers that be' have been controlling the "strawman" through fraudulent conveyance of language for aeons.
However, if you discovered that language (just like everything else on earth) has a MATHEMATICAL INTERFACE, and through it comes a FACTUAL structure that cannot 'allegedly' be challenged, what would you do..?
For what its worth, this is quite fascinating!
http://www.davidwynnmiller.com
" A Side note:
When it comes to Quantum Language David is certainly the go-to man, but there are some things he says about the masons and the illuminati, which intuitively I'm not sold on. So for myself, I have taken what I feel is relevant and have dropped the rest."" (well.. i guess the uploader knows better then.. will see)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHcRWyB1wj0
http://www.davidwynnmiller.com/
21 February 2015 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
"Comment: This man has an IQ of 200 and speaks and reads a lot of languages and it would be very interesting to hear him speak in Swedish or get some kind of translation - one have to have a very high level of understanding to really "get" what he is saying"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULL0TX_Kazo
" I HAVE A DREAM THAT ALL PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND PROPER LANGUAGE SYNTAX AND WILL SPEAK *CORRECTNESS* TO POWER SO THAT POWER UNDERSTANDS WHAT IS ACTUALLY MATHEMATICALLY CORRECT INSTEAD OF CONTINUING TO PERPETUATE FRAUD!"
All law is based upon "adverb-verb" (descriptive or rhetorical versus factual) and when such errors are pointed out with proper syntax then Judges, Attorneys, and other Officers of the Court have no choice but to recuse themselves and/or drop all charges or face criminal charges themselves.
"Have the knowledge and power to have all your words, especially in contracts or any legal documentation, inarguably correct!" -- JUDGE :David-Wynn: Miller
"Law is like a paradox, an irresolvable puzzle. How do you resolve a paradox? You find the error in the initial premise or assumption of the paradox." -- Pi PhD
In other words, "Law is an I.Q. test." -- Pi PhD
What the above quote means is, actual reality is based upon an individual human being's ability to notice subtle aspects of complex systems in order to interact with those systems effectively and without conflict or destruction. Logic, as used in mathematics, is simply a language for expressing as accurate a statement as possible for both the person whom is expressing themselves as well as the person whom is receiving the communication. Effective communication depends upon the I.Q. level of both people involved in the exchange of information. Unnecessary argument takes place when one of the two people communicating misinterprets or misunderstands the other's level of attention to detail. In a court-of-law either or both the judge as well as the prosecuting attorney will attempt to "trick" the defendant into misstating their position within the court and "capture" the defendant within the court's jurisdiction which is technically fraudulent but if the defendant does not understand what is going on and can not demonstrate their superiority within the court then they are considered by the court (a fictitious entity) to be incompetent under the law or unable to defend oneself intellectually (they're effectively insane or "evil" under the law).
Using proper communication technology. Explains case law with the "correct sentence structure communication syntax" using prepositional phrases to disqualify judges and attorneys to insure the proper application of law.
JUDGE :David-Wynn: Miller explains when, how and why our language was bastardized over the last 8,500 years and by whom! Gain understanding of why, when, how and whom omit words from Oxford, Collins and Webster dictionaries, the benefits of the people not knowing these words and the impact that has on the people and our lives. To educate the planet and put an end to the harvesting of the people, through the Fraudulent conveyance of Language!
The commercial legal system has a saying which is, "No law or fact shall be tried in court."
The following are numeric math-like variables of proper syntax of Quantum Language assigned to the 10 aspects of sentence construction...
0 = CONJUNCTION
1 = ADVERB
2 = VERB
3 = ADJECTIVE
4 = PRONOUN
5 = [PRE]POSITION
6 = [AR]TICLE
7 = NOUN
8 = PAST-TIME
9 = FUTURE-TIME
The Hawaii Fraud Theft of Hawaiian Land Thrown out of the Supreme Court due to JUDGE :David-Wynn: Miller's syntaxing of the law proving fraud on 26 Feb 2009.
Universal Postal Union (UPU) - previously Knights Templar safely transporting "vessels" or valuable cargo from point-to-point. Before the Knights Templar there were Masons safely transporting "Integral Knowledge" in various forms that GUARANTEED accurate delivery of the "vessels" (or messages) intact, if, the receiver of the vessel had the proper "code" to translate the message into understandable form. Prior to the Masons there were Wizards or Priests and/or Monks who guarded the information with their lives. You will notice that many of the larger Post Offices in the major cities have Greek features in their architecture like columns with scrolls at the top and bottom holding up a triangle-shaped roof.
* http://www.upu.int/en/the-upu/the-upu...
This video is an edit of the 8-hour presentation that JUDGE :David-Wynn: Miller gave in Australia:
* http://GodGivenRights.info/david-wynn...
Masonic Symbolism as a basis for Quantum Language:
* http://youtu.be/vsFs_L3xASY
FINAL NOTE: The bottom line result is that D-W-M has PROVEN that there is no such thing as a legal contract or law UNLESS two specific people come to an agreement on the SPECIFIC meaning and definition of EACH word in each specific USE of each word over the course of the ENTIRE contract. This is why the military and/or police officers FORCE the enforcement of laws as the most powerful of the authority(ies) deems appropriate subjectively.
Plenipotentiary JUDGE :David-Wynn: Miller's websites:
* http://DavidWynnMiller.com
* http://DWMLC.com
"Comment: This man has an IQ of 200 and speaks and reads a lot of languages and it would be very interesting to hear him speak in Swedish or get some kind of translation - one have to have a very high level of understanding to really "get" what he is saying"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULL0TX_Kazo
" I HAVE A DREAM THAT ALL PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND PROPER LANGUAGE SYNTAX AND WILL SPEAK *CORRECTNESS* TO POWER SO THAT POWER UNDERSTANDS WHAT IS ACTUALLY MATHEMATICALLY CORRECT INSTEAD OF CONTINUING TO PERPETUATE FRAUD!"
All law is based upon "adverb-verb" (descriptive or rhetorical versus factual) and when such errors are pointed out with proper syntax then Judges, Attorneys, and other Officers of the Court have no choice but to recuse themselves and/or drop all charges or face criminal charges themselves.
"Have the knowledge and power to have all your words, especially in contracts or any legal documentation, inarguably correct!" -- JUDGE :David-Wynn: Miller
"Law is like a paradox, an irresolvable puzzle. How do you resolve a paradox? You find the error in the initial premise or assumption of the paradox." -- Pi PhD
In other words, "Law is an I.Q. test." -- Pi PhD
What the above quote means is, actual reality is based upon an individual human being's ability to notice subtle aspects of complex systems in order to interact with those systems effectively and without conflict or destruction. Logic, as used in mathematics, is simply a language for expressing as accurate a statement as possible for both the person whom is expressing themselves as well as the person whom is receiving the communication. Effective communication depends upon the I.Q. level of both people involved in the exchange of information. Unnecessary argument takes place when one of the two people communicating misinterprets or misunderstands the other's level of attention to detail. In a court-of-law either or both the judge as well as the prosecuting attorney will attempt to "trick" the defendant into misstating their position within the court and "capture" the defendant within the court's jurisdiction which is technically fraudulent but if the defendant does not understand what is going on and can not demonstrate their superiority within the court then they are considered by the court (a fictitious entity) to be incompetent under the law or unable to defend oneself intellectually (they're effectively insane or "evil" under the law).
Using proper communication technology. Explains case law with the "correct sentence structure communication syntax" using prepositional phrases to disqualify judges and attorneys to insure the proper application of law.
JUDGE :David-Wynn: Miller explains when, how and why our language was bastardized over the last 8,500 years and by whom! Gain understanding of why, when, how and whom omit words from Oxford, Collins and Webster dictionaries, the benefits of the people not knowing these words and the impact that has on the people and our lives. To educate the planet and put an end to the harvesting of the people, through the Fraudulent conveyance of Language!
The commercial legal system has a saying which is, "No law or fact shall be tried in court."
The following are numeric math-like variables of proper syntax of Quantum Language assigned to the 10 aspects of sentence construction...
0 = CONJUNCTION
1 = ADVERB
2 = VERB
3 = ADJECTIVE
4 = PRONOUN
5 = [PRE]POSITION
6 = [AR]TICLE
7 = NOUN
8 = PAST-TIME
9 = FUTURE-TIME
The Hawaii Fraud Theft of Hawaiian Land Thrown out of the Supreme Court due to JUDGE :David-Wynn: Miller's syntaxing of the law proving fraud on 26 Feb 2009.
Universal Postal Union (UPU) - previously Knights Templar safely transporting "vessels" or valuable cargo from point-to-point. Before the Knights Templar there were Masons safely transporting "Integral Knowledge" in various forms that GUARANTEED accurate delivery of the "vessels" (or messages) intact, if, the receiver of the vessel had the proper "code" to translate the message into understandable form. Prior to the Masons there were Wizards or Priests and/or Monks who guarded the information with their lives. You will notice that many of the larger Post Offices in the major cities have Greek features in their architecture like columns with scrolls at the top and bottom holding up a triangle-shaped roof.
* http://www.upu.int/en/the-upu/the-upu...
This video is an edit of the 8-hour presentation that JUDGE :David-Wynn: Miller gave in Australia:
* http://GodGivenRights.info/david-wynn...
Masonic Symbolism as a basis for Quantum Language:
* http://youtu.be/vsFs_L3xASY
FINAL NOTE: The bottom line result is that D-W-M has PROVEN that there is no such thing as a legal contract or law UNLESS two specific people come to an agreement on the SPECIFIC meaning and definition of EACH word in each specific USE of each word over the course of the ENTIRE contract. This is why the military and/or police officers FORCE the enforcement of laws as the most powerful of the authority(ies) deems appropriate subjectively.
Plenipotentiary JUDGE :David-Wynn: Miller's websites:
* http://DavidWynnMiller.com
* http://DWMLC.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULL0TX_Kazo
21 February 2015 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxYhnL4mws4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxYhnL4mws4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxYhnL4mws4
21 February 2015 01:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Is trees made of wood ?
21 February 2015 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. What is that stuff.. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Iw9W3vVQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Iw9W3vVQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Iw9W3vVQw
21 February 2015 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
vaat kus olime uhked, vehkisime oma tikutangidega
vedas muidugi, et päris relvi me vastu ei lubatud kasutada, selliseid mis suurmaade jaoks mõeldud olid, nad praktiliselt siis juba mõtlesid, et ressursi raiskamine oleks sinna kalist pommi raisata, saadame tavalised kaltsakad nendega tegelema. Muidugi tõsimeeli maiselt tublid mehed valasid verd... kuid kui siis juba oleks sateliitpildid ja internet olnud (tavainimesel ka) mille kaudu pilti selgeks saada...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcO8DRNq8Sg
ja filmiklipi juures kommentaar ka omakandi mehelt
"Sama kiirelt korjati rahvalt relvad,kui need kätte anti"
"Samal ajal ehitati Saaremaal Kärla ja Aste lennuvälju, nimelt 1937/1938- kui baasid tulid 1939 sisse pidid ju lennikid kuhugi maanduma ja kusagilt töusma- on palju Saaremaa mehi, mu enda lähedasi, kes seal töötasid ja head palka said! Seda nimetamisväärne on presidendi köne!"
metall relvadega nagu mingit võimu ja uhkust meie suguselt Kõrg Vaimu riigil taga jaga on ... ei leia sõna aga ....midagi väljaheite ja alavääristavalt mõnitava solvangu vahepealset
vedas muidugi, et päris relvi me vastu ei lubatud kasutada, selliseid mis suurmaade jaoks mõeldud olid, nad praktiliselt siis juba mõtlesid, et ressursi raiskamine oleks sinna kalist pommi raisata, saadame tavalised kaltsakad nendega tegelema. Muidugi tõsimeeli maiselt tublid mehed valasid verd... kuid kui siis juba oleks sateliitpildid ja internet olnud (tavainimesel ka) mille kaudu pilti selgeks saada...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcO8DRNq8Sg
ja filmiklipi juures kommentaar ka omakandi mehelt
"Sama kiirelt korjati rahvalt relvad,kui need kätte anti"
"Samal ajal ehitati Saaremaal Kärla ja Aste lennuvälju, nimelt 1937/1938- kui baasid tulid 1939 sisse pidid ju lennikid kuhugi maanduma ja kusagilt töusma- on palju Saaremaa mehi, mu enda lähedasi, kes seal töötasid ja head palka said! Seda nimetamisväärne on presidendi köne!"
metall relvadega nagu mingit võimu ja uhkust meie suguselt Kõrg Vaimu riigil taga jaga on ... ei leia sõna aga ....midagi väljaheite ja alavääristavalt mõnitava solvangu vahepealset
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcO8DRNq8Sg
21 February 2015 00:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu mul oli see digi versioonis üle aasta tagasi saadaval kuid ei vaevunud vaatama
20 February 2015 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
"Nüüd on kohati ajateenistus paras puhkelaager. Noormehed on nädal teenistuses olnud, kui juba saavad koju puhkama. Mõne pinnu pärast näpus, on emad pääslas ootamas, millal pai saab teha Ja need on need mehed, kes kogu sellest algsest nimekirjast on sõelale jäänud ja peaksid terved olema"
Sest tapa tehnoloogia pähe söövitamine on effektiivsem nüüd, inimese saab koletiseks teha lühema ajaga sest juured pole nii tugevad, vanasti iidseid rahvaid pandi Tsaari sõjaväkke ja siis oli vaja ikka neid seal pool elu hoida, et maha lyyakse või ümber selle aja jooksul pööratakse, et siis teise vaimuga tagasi tulles uue versiooni lapsi juba loodus kaugemaid teeks.. ja sedasi kuni siiani.
Neil pole vaja hoida nii kaua sõjaväes sest piisab korraks uhkuse sisse süstimiseks, et oled relva kasutaja ja oskad inimest mõrvata ja siis vaatad tapa file ja veristamsie videomänge sinna otsa ja hoiad oma programmi töös ja siis SINU AJU energiat juba saab kasutada selleks kus päris sõjad käivad, ... ja ega ned sõdureid ju PÄRISELT ei lähe vaja praegu, suureks vägistamise laineks vahest aegajalt kasutatakse, kuid see viinae suur laine tehti puna armee poolt ja nüüd iniemsed juba ise uskuma pandud, et sobilik kus iganes... siis see osa ka valmis ning seeläbi inimene paturingis millega tema vangis hoidmine siin orjastamiseks kindlustatud.
Kuid see headuse ja armastuse loor on nii sur ja lai, et see lõpuks tuleb ja imbub ka tökatis südamest läbi.
Sest tapa tehnoloogia pähe söövitamine on effektiivsem nüüd, inimese saab koletiseks teha lühema ajaga sest juured pole nii tugevad, vanasti iidseid rahvaid pandi Tsaari sõjaväkke ja siis oli vaja ikka neid seal pool elu hoida, et maha lyyakse või ümber selle aja jooksul pööratakse, et siis teise vaimuga tagasi tulles uue versiooni lapsi juba loodus kaugemaid teeks.. ja sedasi kuni siiani.
Neil pole vaja hoida nii kaua sõjaväes sest piisab korraks uhkuse sisse süstimiseks, et oled relva kasutaja ja oskad inimest mõrvata ja siis vaatad tapa file ja veristamsie videomänge sinna otsa ja hoiad oma programmi töös ja siis SINU AJU energiat juba saab kasutada selleks kus päris sõjad käivad, ... ja ega ned sõdureid ju PÄRISELT ei lähe vaja praegu, suureks vägistamise laineks vahest aegajalt kasutatakse, kuid see viinae suur laine tehti puna armee poolt ja nüüd iniemsed juba ise uskuma pandud, et sobilik kus iganes... siis see osa ka valmis ning seeläbi inimene paturingis millega tema vangis hoidmine siin orjastamiseks kindlustatud.
Kuid see headuse ja armastuse loor on nii sur ja lai, et see lõpuks tuleb ja imbub ka tökatis südamest läbi.
20 February 2015 21:11
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
" Kui targal naisel on valida, kellega tal on turvalisem läbi elu ratsuda, siis valib ta pigem selle, kellel on ajateenistus läbitud, sest ta teab et osades olukordades ta saab mehe peale loota. "
MIKS peaks TARK naine valima mehe, kellel on läbitud ajuhälvamise treeningud, mis suurema tõenäosusega on inimest rikkunud ja vähem tundelisemaks teinud nii arumu, tunde, looduse kui muude kõige olulisemate asjade osas?
Targem naine valib ikka selle, kes tegelikult seda pakud ENAMASTI mida ENAMASTI ja KINDLASTI, ALATI vaja läheb, mitte mingi hüpoteetilised sõjad mille ise endale kaela tõmabame oma uskumatusest ja lollusest suures osas. Sest elame Kreeka-Rooma homo haridussüsteemi programmis juba mitutuhat aastat. Ja siis imestame, miks inimesed tunduvad nagu nad on.
" Barrikaadidele me ei lähe ka ju sellepärast, et mäe otsast üks härra seda käseb, vaid ikka sellepärast, kui sa tunned et tahad kodu kaitsta."
EI sa lähed TÄPSELT sellepärast, et need härrad tekitavad tunde, sedasi on see asi ju toiminud tuhandeid aastaid, vana programm.
Nii lihtne ka. Lady GagGA video siin õtlemiseks see Alejandro..
Kodu ju vaja kaista, praeguses olukorras pidevalt (ja siis ei millalgi samal ajal) kuid tegelt ju pidevalt, PRAEGU käib põhi sõjategevus, sõda tavaliselt juba enne tankide kasutusele võttu on otsustatud, see järelmäng sest nüüd luba antud vaimumaailmas, teatud hulk inimeste päid sassi aetud, et saab aktiviseerida tapamasinad. KUid seda saab AINULT argade kurjade vaimudega ju teha edukalt kui viirus enne ajuse on pääsenud.
PRAEGU käib PÄRIS sõda.. interneti tutvumis lehtedel, facebooki gruppides, laste kooli pinkides, telesaadetes, raadios, poliitikas kus lubatakse valearusaamadega inimestel rääkida, tartu teadus laborites, baari lettide taga, sõradega vina võttes on SU oma rahava vastane sõda, poe lettidel, suitsu pakid, suur osa spordist on sõltuvus et me mõtteid hoida fikseeritud millegile muule kui elule, tele spordi vaatamine hoopis muu haigus ja OSA sõjast, ... ja siis MIKS enamus neist suurtest võitlejatest siis ei osale kodu kaitsmas. Sest JUST need on kohad kus süsteem kes see tegelik "vaenalne" on peab me vastu sõda ja ta pole kuhugi läinud sest me pole riiki puhtaks teinud vaid võtame veel suurema osa välis telesaateid sisse välis formaadis mis ajusi fikseerib teatud limitatsioonis mõtlema selliselt, et kui otseselt loodus vastu ei suudeta keerata siis misjoon juba täidatud kui päevast piisava aja on ära võtnud, et järgmisel päeval uuesti 0st allustada.. ja jälle üks lill nuusutamatta.
"Tänu sellele me oleme siin üldse vast rahvana üldse püsima jäänud et oleme pidanud enese eest võitlema Tänu võitlusele, me saame siin oma keeles veel ju filosofeerida ja see on luksus, kui vaadata kuidas maailmas väikeste rahvaste käekäik on läinud. "
EI Tänu võitlusele me oleks mitu korda kogu oma rahvast ilma jäänud, kui siin ülmaba hakkasime oma sõja võimudega, just siis kui viimanekord siin oma rikkuses 1900 alguses asusime uhkustama, siis just saime seda mida küsisime... ja uuesti samas punktis, arusaamata, et me tänu väitlusele mitte vaid VAIMU MAAILMALE olele püsima jäänud 10 000 aastat, ega siis need päris eestlased polnud, kes asutatud eesti vaimu kandjad kes meie meeste nime all muid maid käisid kunagi vallutamas, see ikka selleks, et meile pärast saaks häda kaela tuua.
Meie algsed tunnetused ja suunad on rohkem Mari rahavaste sarnased, kus osati suhelda taimede, lindude ja loomadega, nagu päriselt suhelda, inimestest eri keeltes rääkimattagi. Õnneks on vähemalt mõened muinasjutud sellest alles jäänud MUINAS-JUTUD, ehk vana-aja-jutud (mitte väljamõeldised, ega luulud vms).
Kuid muinasjuttudega tehti samamoodi solkimiseks nagu lauludegagi - hakati neid väljam mõtlema suvalisi millel pold millelgagi midagi pistmist või selliseid mis siit ja sealt kokku pandi, segaduse ajamiseks, et kõlaks nagu jutt. Laul oli ka ,aint asja eest kunagi, mitte niisama hingetud. Ikka tunnetusliku hingega.
On tuhandeid aastaid vanu kultuure, kes pole kunagi tegelenud armeede ja sõjaretkedega.
MIKS peaks TARK naine valima mehe, kellel on läbitud ajuhälvamise treeningud, mis suurema tõenäosusega on inimest rikkunud ja vähem tundelisemaks teinud nii arumu, tunde, looduse kui muude kõige olulisemate asjade osas?
Targem naine valib ikka selle, kes tegelikult seda pakud ENAMASTI mida ENAMASTI ja KINDLASTI, ALATI vaja läheb, mitte mingi hüpoteetilised sõjad mille ise endale kaela tõmabame oma uskumatusest ja lollusest suures osas. Sest elame Kreeka-Rooma homo haridussüsteemi programmis juba mitutuhat aastat. Ja siis imestame, miks inimesed tunduvad nagu nad on.
" Barrikaadidele me ei lähe ka ju sellepärast, et mäe otsast üks härra seda käseb, vaid ikka sellepärast, kui sa tunned et tahad kodu kaitsta."
EI sa lähed TÄPSELT sellepärast, et need härrad tekitavad tunde, sedasi on see asi ju toiminud tuhandeid aastaid, vana programm.
Nii lihtne ka. Lady GagGA video siin õtlemiseks see Alejandro..
Kodu ju vaja kaista, praeguses olukorras pidevalt (ja siis ei millalgi samal ajal) kuid tegelt ju pidevalt, PRAEGU käib põhi sõjategevus, sõda tavaliselt juba enne tankide kasutusele võttu on otsustatud, see järelmäng sest nüüd luba antud vaimumaailmas, teatud hulk inimeste päid sassi aetud, et saab aktiviseerida tapamasinad. KUid seda saab AINULT argade kurjade vaimudega ju teha edukalt kui viirus enne ajuse on pääsenud.
PRAEGU käib PÄRIS sõda.. interneti tutvumis lehtedel, facebooki gruppides, laste kooli pinkides, telesaadetes, raadios, poliitikas kus lubatakse valearusaamadega inimestel rääkida, tartu teadus laborites, baari lettide taga, sõradega vina võttes on SU oma rahava vastane sõda, poe lettidel, suitsu pakid, suur osa spordist on sõltuvus et me mõtteid hoida fikseeritud millegile muule kui elule, tele spordi vaatamine hoopis muu haigus ja OSA sõjast, ... ja siis MIKS enamus neist suurtest võitlejatest siis ei osale kodu kaitsmas. Sest JUST need on kohad kus süsteem kes see tegelik "vaenalne" on peab me vastu sõda ja ta pole kuhugi läinud sest me pole riiki puhtaks teinud vaid võtame veel suurema osa välis telesaateid sisse välis formaadis mis ajusi fikseerib teatud limitatsioonis mõtlema selliselt, et kui otseselt loodus vastu ei suudeta keerata siis misjoon juba täidatud kui päevast piisava aja on ära võtnud, et järgmisel päeval uuesti 0st allustada.. ja jälle üks lill nuusutamatta.
"Tänu sellele me oleme siin üldse vast rahvana üldse püsima jäänud et oleme pidanud enese eest võitlema Tänu võitlusele, me saame siin oma keeles veel ju filosofeerida ja see on luksus, kui vaadata kuidas maailmas väikeste rahvaste käekäik on läinud. "
EI Tänu võitlusele me oleks mitu korda kogu oma rahvast ilma jäänud, kui siin ülmaba hakkasime oma sõja võimudega, just siis kui viimanekord siin oma rikkuses 1900 alguses asusime uhkustama, siis just saime seda mida küsisime... ja uuesti samas punktis, arusaamata, et me tänu väitlusele mitte vaid VAIMU MAAILMALE olele püsima jäänud 10 000 aastat, ega siis need päris eestlased polnud, kes asutatud eesti vaimu kandjad kes meie meeste nime all muid maid käisid kunagi vallutamas, see ikka selleks, et meile pärast saaks häda kaela tuua.
Meie algsed tunnetused ja suunad on rohkem Mari rahavaste sarnased, kus osati suhelda taimede, lindude ja loomadega, nagu päriselt suhelda, inimestest eri keeltes rääkimattagi. Õnneks on vähemalt mõened muinasjutud sellest alles jäänud MUINAS-JUTUD, ehk vana-aja-jutud (mitte väljamõeldised, ega luulud vms).
Kuid muinasjuttudega tehti samamoodi solkimiseks nagu lauludegagi - hakati neid väljam mõtlema suvalisi millel pold millelgagi midagi pistmist või selliseid mis siit ja sealt kokku pandi, segaduse ajamiseks, et kõlaks nagu jutt. Laul oli ka ,aint asja eest kunagi, mitte niisama hingetud. Ikka tunnetusliku hingega.
On tuhandeid aastaid vanu kultuure, kes pole kunagi tegelenud armeede ja sõjaretkedega.
20 February 2015 21:11
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
"Aga ajast aega on nii et 10-st inimesest on kaks sellised, kes on teravamad pliiatsid ja kaks sellised kes seda mitte pole, ülejäänud on keskmised. Ja seda ei muuda. see on läbi ühiskonna sedasi."
Muudab küll, seda VÄGA lihtne muuta, väga mitut pidi, kuid eks alguse peabsaama toitumisest ja mõtlemise muutmisest mida saab teha autoriteediga IME lihtsalt, kui veel näpuotsaga taime tarkust ka kasutada.
See mitte, ei "ole lihtsalt nii" vaidseda MEELEGa hoitakse sedasi, et saaks orjariiki hoida, siis neil vaja kindlustada, et nürid pliiatsid ennast teravalttunneksid
"Vati sees elades ja endast kõik tumeda kõrvale lükates sa seda kogemust ei saa. Varem või hiljem peab elus ka tumedamaga kokku puutuma, ja siis võib ülesande lahendamine täpselt nii kergeks/raskeks osutuda, kui palju sa eelnevalt harjutanud oled."
See päris nii ka ei ole kuigi tundub loogiline ja eeteline,
homodel umbes sama loogika, et kõike peab proovima sest mine tea millal meeldima hakkab või et noh, proovid ära ja õpid selgeks valesti elamise, et siis võib vaja minna.. aga just ebavajalikku harjutades ja sellele panustades kasulikuse ja tarkuste asemel sa tirid ja kinlustad mustust oma ellu ja lükkad aega edasi selles kõige olulisema osas.
Vati sees elades Sa saaksid endale vabalt asjad nii selgeks ja nii tugevaks, kasutades vati sees looduse poolt valmistatud lisa tarkusi, just selle tarvis, et kui sulle tank teele tuleb siis sa mitte mingit pidi ei paanitse, vaid kohe oskad teinteise ajus koos mõelda mida teha, tunnetades mis asjad on kuidas ja kui tangid Su ümber on torudega siis lihtsalt selle asemele, et kartma paanikas hakata võid ülesse ärgata. Kui usud, et Jumal Su ümber ega sa siis hirmus jooksma ei hakka ju tangi eest, OMA MAAL, kui siis mängeldes (kui vaja). Pealegi, VÄHE tõenäone, et sa ainult selles maailmas siin praegu oled, unes vahest mäletad küll ju neid teisi kohti... Teoorias see muidugi eriti hea kuid praktikas suts häguseks läheb.. kuid võimalik kui vaimusilmas iidseid rahvaid, iniaanlasi või kasvõi seda mees kujutad ette, kes hiinas tangi ette läks (isegi kui see oli lavastatud.). Muidugi eks tumedal maailmal veel omad nipid kuidas Sul takistada ärkamast.
Muudab küll, seda VÄGA lihtne muuta, väga mitut pidi, kuid eks alguse peabsaama toitumisest ja mõtlemise muutmisest mida saab teha autoriteediga IME lihtsalt, kui veel näpuotsaga taime tarkust ka kasutada.
See mitte, ei "ole lihtsalt nii" vaidseda MEELEGa hoitakse sedasi, et saaks orjariiki hoida, siis neil vaja kindlustada, et nürid pliiatsid ennast teravalttunneksid
"Vati sees elades ja endast kõik tumeda kõrvale lükates sa seda kogemust ei saa. Varem või hiljem peab elus ka tumedamaga kokku puutuma, ja siis võib ülesande lahendamine täpselt nii kergeks/raskeks osutuda, kui palju sa eelnevalt harjutanud oled."
See päris nii ka ei ole kuigi tundub loogiline ja eeteline,
homodel umbes sama loogika, et kõike peab proovima sest mine tea millal meeldima hakkab või et noh, proovid ära ja õpid selgeks valesti elamise, et siis võib vaja minna.. aga just ebavajalikku harjutades ja sellele panustades kasulikuse ja tarkuste asemel sa tirid ja kinlustad mustust oma ellu ja lükkad aega edasi selles kõige olulisema osas.
Vati sees elades Sa saaksid endale vabalt asjad nii selgeks ja nii tugevaks, kasutades vati sees looduse poolt valmistatud lisa tarkusi, just selle tarvis, et kui sulle tank teele tuleb siis sa mitte mingit pidi ei paanitse, vaid kohe oskad teinteise ajus koos mõelda mida teha, tunnetades mis asjad on kuidas ja kui tangid Su ümber on torudega siis lihtsalt selle asemele, et kartma paanikas hakata võid ülesse ärgata. Kui usud, et Jumal Su ümber ega sa siis hirmus jooksma ei hakka ju tangi eest, OMA MAAL, kui siis mängeldes (kui vaja). Pealegi, VÄHE tõenäone, et sa ainult selles maailmas siin praegu oled, unes vahest mäletad küll ju neid teisi kohti... Teoorias see muidugi eriti hea kuid praktikas suts häguseks läheb.. kuid võimalik kui vaimusilmas iidseid rahvaid, iniaanlasi või kasvõi seda mees kujutad ette, kes hiinas tangi ette läks (isegi kui see oli lavastatud.). Muidugi eks tumedal maailmal veel omad nipid kuidas Sul takistada ärkamast.
20 February 2015 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
"Või söödetakse sul kõht heast-paremast nii täis, et sa lihtsalt üks hetk ei mõtle selle peale enam, et sul pole enam kodu mida kaitsta "
JUST, sõjaväest välja tulles suurem osa inimesi enam ei mõtle ei kodu ehitamisele ega miskile sest RAHA TEENIMISELE, järgmisele sund orjusele ju ikka peab minema, sest uskuma pandud, et elektri eest peab maksma ja et maksu vaja maksta jms luulut, millele suuruma vastupanuta allutakse. Et Ühesõnaga PEAB olema raha muidu ei tohi oma maal elada mida sulle päradantud on vana vana isalt.
KUID sellele ei mõelda, et kõik see "turvaline kodu" mida oma arust siin oma multifilmi armeega kaitsma hakkame, saab olla minema pühitud niii kiiresti ja lihtsalt, et heal juhul jõutakse mainida veel uudistes, et OLI selline maa, (st nu see saaks juhtuda ainult siis kui meil poleks vaimu ja usu tuge, kui oleks materiaalne maailm päris, siis oskate ise arvutada kui lihtne oleks tavapärase MÕNESAJA kildi kaugusel suursõjaväe baasil, õppusekäigus aktiviseerida kiir poole tunnine äkk rünnak, mille käigus heal juhul mõned küla baarid jääksid alles, sest KÕIK 100% meie relvastuse asukohad ja tavakaitse süsteemid on naabrile teada, ERANDITULT. ja siis KOHE peale seda tõmmatakse KÕIK rünnakud tagasi, tehakse võlts riigipööre ktse riigis, saadetakse ameerikale teade, et neil riigi sees suur segadus, ehk saate appi tulla.. isehakanud siin.. ja antakse selgelt märku, et ei ole soovi rünnata ei soomet ega euroopat ega usa kuid et kõik tuuma relvad on valmis kui nad valesti käituvad.. ja selgelt oma riigis siis tõstavad käed püsti ja ütlevad "sorry" juhtus.. same nüüd korra tagasi.. isehakanud sõjavälised om maha lastud... ja tunni-poole jooksul ei hakka ameerika kindlasti täis jõuga venemaad ründama eriti kui nad selgelt oma õhuruumis aint on ja üle maakera näitavad, et nad ei soovi rünnakut, lisaks saavad vel kogu meie suurima veevaru ka selle käigus lõplikult ära lõpetada, muuseas, pool nagunii nende oma maal.. kuid see üks väike materiaalne, asi mis saab veel lihtsam olla, lisaks HOOPIS võimsamatele meeletutele relvadele mis isegi liiga suured Eesti kasutuseks, ja ma ei räägi isegi heelium pommidest mis aatom pommist neil võimsamadja mida nad Võivad kasutada, vaidhoopis muudest võimsamatest relvadest, mida saaksid nad materiaalses maailmas kasutada ja kümned millionid kugteel põlvili suruda lihtsalt ajulainete, psüholoogia ja bioloogiaga. Meie tangid ja kaitsevägi on nagu liivakasti plassmass labidas selle kõrval mis relva tasemed neil tegelt olemas on, tuleb meeles pidada, et piisavalt, et USAl pandi suu kinni jba 80ndatel, rahva nälgimine ja vaesusesolemine on osa relvast, ja see väline mask.. sest nendel teadlastel ja sõduritel kellel PÄRIS relvadele ligipääs (mitte kannid nagu tangirusikad, soomukid jms)).. nendel on kõht piisavalt täis ja venemal endal piisab kui million inimest ellu jääb sest neil olems paljundus programmid mille kadu nad uut õigemat vene inimest nagunii tahtnud juba kaua aega luua.
JUST, sõjaväest välja tulles suurem osa inimesi enam ei mõtle ei kodu ehitamisele ega miskile sest RAHA TEENIMISELE, järgmisele sund orjusele ju ikka peab minema, sest uskuma pandud, et elektri eest peab maksma ja et maksu vaja maksta jms luulut, millele suuruma vastupanuta allutakse. Et Ühesõnaga PEAB olema raha muidu ei tohi oma maal elada mida sulle päradantud on vana vana isalt.
KUID sellele ei mõelda, et kõik see "turvaline kodu" mida oma arust siin oma multifilmi armeega kaitsma hakkame, saab olla minema pühitud niii kiiresti ja lihtsalt, et heal juhul jõutakse mainida veel uudistes, et OLI selline maa, (st nu see saaks juhtuda ainult siis kui meil poleks vaimu ja usu tuge, kui oleks materiaalne maailm päris, siis oskate ise arvutada kui lihtne oleks tavapärase MÕNESAJA kildi kaugusel suursõjaväe baasil, õppusekäigus aktiviseerida kiir poole tunnine äkk rünnak, mille käigus heal juhul mõned küla baarid jääksid alles, sest KÕIK 100% meie relvastuse asukohad ja tavakaitse süsteemid on naabrile teada, ERANDITULT. ja siis KOHE peale seda tõmmatakse KÕIK rünnakud tagasi, tehakse võlts riigipööre ktse riigis, saadetakse ameerikale teade, et neil riigi sees suur segadus, ehk saate appi tulla.. isehakanud siin.. ja antakse selgelt märku, et ei ole soovi rünnata ei soomet ega euroopat ega usa kuid et kõik tuuma relvad on valmis kui nad valesti käituvad.. ja selgelt oma riigis siis tõstavad käed püsti ja ütlevad "sorry" juhtus.. same nüüd korra tagasi.. isehakanud sõjavälised om maha lastud... ja tunni-poole jooksul ei hakka ameerika kindlasti täis jõuga venemaad ründama eriti kui nad selgelt oma õhuruumis aint on ja üle maakera näitavad, et nad ei soovi rünnakut, lisaks saavad vel kogu meie suurima veevaru ka selle käigus lõplikult ära lõpetada, muuseas, pool nagunii nende oma maal.. kuid see üks väike materiaalne, asi mis saab veel lihtsam olla, lisaks HOOPIS võimsamatele meeletutele relvadele mis isegi liiga suured Eesti kasutuseks, ja ma ei räägi isegi heelium pommidest mis aatom pommist neil võimsamadja mida nad Võivad kasutada, vaidhoopis muudest võimsamatest relvadest, mida saaksid nad materiaalses maailmas kasutada ja kümned millionid kugteel põlvili suruda lihtsalt ajulainete, psüholoogia ja bioloogiaga. Meie tangid ja kaitsevägi on nagu liivakasti plassmass labidas selle kõrval mis relva tasemed neil tegelt olemas on, tuleb meeles pidada, et piisavalt, et USAl pandi suu kinni jba 80ndatel, rahva nälgimine ja vaesusesolemine on osa relvast, ja see väline mask.. sest nendel teadlastel ja sõduritel kellel PÄRIS relvadele ligipääs (mitte kannid nagu tangirusikad, soomukid jms)).. nendel on kõht piisavalt täis ja venemal endal piisab kui million inimest ellu jääb sest neil olems paljundus programmid mille kadu nad uut õigemat vene inimest nagunii tahtnud juba kaua aega luua.
20 February 2015 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
"Ajateenistuse pluss on juba see, kui õpid grupiga koos töötama. Seda läheb sul edaspidi vaja nii pereelu toetamisel kui külarahvaga talli tuld kustutades. "
Ei see pole ajateenistuse pluss sest seda sa peaks juba ammu oma perest õppima ja ülejäänu koolist enne 9ndat klasssi, Inimene on alaarenenud kui ta on 18 aastane ja ei oska koostööd teha.
Ja kuna suurem osa inimesi on käinud kaitseväes ja koostööd EI ole näha siis ILMSELGE et see argument ei saa tõene olla, vaid see pigem üks inimesi lõhestav tegur, kus ainult kellegi vastu hetkeliselt, surma eesmärgil sarnastega hetkeks liitutakse hirmus ja siis laiali pudenetakse.
Paned inimesi haiglasse kaheks kuuks samasse palatisse on ka vahest eluaegsed sõbrad.
"Ajateenistus peaks panema ka ärahellitatud poisi sedasi ennast distsiplineerima, et ta oskab arvestada nõrgematega ja tsiviilelus oskab aidata naisi, lapsi ja vanureid."
Yah, see peaks KUI see oleks ajateenistuse mõte aga mõte on õetada nägema teist inimest MITTE inimesena, see ELEMENTAARNE ALG ÕPE igas sõjaväe korras, et inimest MITE ELUSANA näha, sest muidu sa ei suudaks tulsitada ja saaksid närvivapustuse peale esimest mõrva.
Räägid nagu need ajateenistujad mingi 4-5 aastase mõistusega oleks, et õpivad koos liivakooki tegema ja kätt hoidma, et muidu ei oska.
Need elementaarsed inimoskused mis peavad ammu enne passi olemas olema muidu tuleks ravile saata kõigepealt. Kiiremas korras.
"Aga käid ajateenistuse läbi ja saab minna tsiviilellu tagasi lilli nuusutama ja elu mõtet otsima või peret kasvatama."
Elumõte juba peaks olema selge 15 aastasel lapsel, mida siin universumis teeb, mis tema hinge misjoon on ja kuidas vastu võtta järgmise eluetappi faasi mis tuleb peale erinevates vanustes.
Lilli suurem osa ajateenistujaid ei soovi aga nähagi sest egasiis loodust ei õpetata tunnetama ega armastama, isegi ei küsita kas õhku lastes kogematta mingi lepatriinu kuninga koja puruks lasti mis omakorda metsavaimud välja vihastab mis omakorda jõuab jõe näkineiuni Su naise läbi sinu perre kus Sind suunatakse elule kus saad sõnade ja toiduga suunates sellise depresiooni mis Sul need elu mõnud ära eemaldavad mille vääriliseks Sind ei peeta, elad omaarust samas maailmas aga tegelt nagu vaim oled paraleel maailmades.
A targemad näevad, aga ise arvad, et teised sama nagu sina, aga pole. Maailm on väga palju suurtemate võimalustega kui paberipeal projektitamine siin inimese mõistusega kes ei oska naabritegagi KÕIKIDEGA läbi saada, et nii alaarenenud, oma maja naabritele ka südame soojust ei proovi jagada ega mõista selle olulisustki.
" Palju salakavalam programm on see, kus inimese kaitsetahe murtakse, ehk siis keegi teeb sulle kübaratrikki jutuga et sa ei pea muretsema, keegi teine teeb sinu eest töö ära, kasvatab sulle toidu, hoiab sinu metsa ja piiri, sul tarvitseb ainult puhata ja mängida"
JUST see sama kübaratrikk see sõjavägi ongi,
et "saa anna oma kolm tilka verd, ole nõus inimhinge mõrvariks hakkama... ja me siis organiseeerime alati pundi kokku ja anname su eest molli kes iganes sul millegi osas kalale tuleb kunagi.. et tuleviksiis on turvaline..." pla pla
sama juttu IGAL maal IGAS suunas räägitakse, ja kõik usuvad, üle 300 eri maa.. samat fantaasiat ja vana lorijuttu.
Ei see pole ajateenistuse pluss sest seda sa peaks juba ammu oma perest õppima ja ülejäänu koolist enne 9ndat klasssi, Inimene on alaarenenud kui ta on 18 aastane ja ei oska koostööd teha.
Ja kuna suurem osa inimesi on käinud kaitseväes ja koostööd EI ole näha siis ILMSELGE et see argument ei saa tõene olla, vaid see pigem üks inimesi lõhestav tegur, kus ainult kellegi vastu hetkeliselt, surma eesmärgil sarnastega hetkeks liitutakse hirmus ja siis laiali pudenetakse.
Paned inimesi haiglasse kaheks kuuks samasse palatisse on ka vahest eluaegsed sõbrad.
"Ajateenistus peaks panema ka ärahellitatud poisi sedasi ennast distsiplineerima, et ta oskab arvestada nõrgematega ja tsiviilelus oskab aidata naisi, lapsi ja vanureid."
Yah, see peaks KUI see oleks ajateenistuse mõte aga mõte on õetada nägema teist inimest MITTE inimesena, see ELEMENTAARNE ALG ÕPE igas sõjaväe korras, et inimest MITE ELUSANA näha, sest muidu sa ei suudaks tulsitada ja saaksid närvivapustuse peale esimest mõrva.
Räägid nagu need ajateenistujad mingi 4-5 aastase mõistusega oleks, et õpivad koos liivakooki tegema ja kätt hoidma, et muidu ei oska.
Need elementaarsed inimoskused mis peavad ammu enne passi olemas olema muidu tuleks ravile saata kõigepealt. Kiiremas korras.
"Aga käid ajateenistuse läbi ja saab minna tsiviilellu tagasi lilli nuusutama ja elu mõtet otsima või peret kasvatama."
Elumõte juba peaks olema selge 15 aastasel lapsel, mida siin universumis teeb, mis tema hinge misjoon on ja kuidas vastu võtta järgmise eluetappi faasi mis tuleb peale erinevates vanustes.
Lilli suurem osa ajateenistujaid ei soovi aga nähagi sest egasiis loodust ei õpetata tunnetama ega armastama, isegi ei küsita kas õhku lastes kogematta mingi lepatriinu kuninga koja puruks lasti mis omakorda metsavaimud välja vihastab mis omakorda jõuab jõe näkineiuni Su naise läbi sinu perre kus Sind suunatakse elule kus saad sõnade ja toiduga suunates sellise depresiooni mis Sul need elu mõnud ära eemaldavad mille vääriliseks Sind ei peeta, elad omaarust samas maailmas aga tegelt nagu vaim oled paraleel maailmades.
A targemad näevad, aga ise arvad, et teised sama nagu sina, aga pole. Maailm on väga palju suurtemate võimalustega kui paberipeal projektitamine siin inimese mõistusega kes ei oska naabritegagi KÕIKIDEGA läbi saada, et nii alaarenenud, oma maja naabritele ka südame soojust ei proovi jagada ega mõista selle olulisustki.
" Palju salakavalam programm on see, kus inimese kaitsetahe murtakse, ehk siis keegi teeb sulle kübaratrikki jutuga et sa ei pea muretsema, keegi teine teeb sinu eest töö ära, kasvatab sulle toidu, hoiab sinu metsa ja piiri, sul tarvitseb ainult puhata ja mängida"
JUST see sama kübaratrikk see sõjavägi ongi,
et "saa anna oma kolm tilka verd, ole nõus inimhinge mõrvariks hakkama... ja me siis organiseeerime alati pundi kokku ja anname su eest molli kes iganes sul millegi osas kalale tuleb kunagi.. et tuleviksiis on turvaline..." pla pla
sama juttu IGAL maal IGAS suunas räägitakse, ja kõik usuvad, üle 300 eri maa.. samat fantaasiat ja vana lorijuttu.
20 February 2015 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
vASTUSEID KOMMENTAARIDELE SIIS, SOENDUSEKS:
" Riigikaitse, ajateenistuse kõige esimene ja tähtsam roll on heidutus - näitamine et me oleme valmis ennast kaitsma, meil on relvastus, mille abil seda teha ja mis peamine - tahe üheskoos vastu hakata ja kaitsta seda mis on kallis. Si vis pacem, para bellum. Selline rahumuinasjutt nagu lugeja kirjeldab, on võimalik ainult tema elukauges fantaasiamaailmas. "
"Taunoga nõus. Teatav annus hirmu peab olema ja see on loomulik. See on meil koopas elamisest saadik veres. Sest hirm kaitses sind selle eest, et sa paljakäsi ja üksi karu käest mett ära võtma ei läheks "
ei see pole hirm vaid Tarkus, Mõistlikus ja Austus
MITTE hirmupärast karu käest võtmata ei jääta
kui õige inimene oled
kui täitsa hirmu vaba oled võid vabalt ka karult selle mee minna ja ära võtta, aafrikas küll neid naisi kes ründavate lõvide keskele võib minna ja neid iial ei puuduta, sama ka inimestega kes saab madude keskel või vastas jaögpalli meeskonna keskel olla
"Hirmuga saab sedasi koos elada et sa ei lase sellele üle pea kasvada"
et nagu see orjus kus pead pidevalt midagi kontrollima ja nagu oma marutõbist koera ketiotsas hoidma, parem on meeli valitseda hoopis läbi tunnetuse, mitte suruda oma hirme alla ja siis juurde tekitada, nagu vene narkomaanid kes amfetamiini ja morfiini vaheldumisi võtta ja siis nagu yo yo d pendeldavad pidevasängistuses
"Me lihtsalt elame selles geograafilises punktis, kus mõni meie naaber ei piirdu oma viljasalve hoidmisega, vaid soovib meie oma ka rüüstata, kas siis ahnusest, kadedusest või hakkab võim pähe. "
Meie oleme ühes TURVALISEIMAS ja soodsamais punkis sellel maakeral on, parimate naabritega mis olla saab kogu väärtuses. Maailma headusega valitsejate jaoks on see soodsamaid paradiise mis olla saab.
" Ajateenistus ei võta sult midagi ära ja ei saada otseselt sõtta, aga mõistlik oleks osata elementaarset oskust hakkama saada raskemates tingimistes, kui seda peaks kunagi vaja minema. "
ajateenistus võtab sult lisaks ajale ka vahest moraali, loodus tunnetuse, armastuse, inim tunnetuse ja palju muud ära - see on PROGRAMM nagu kooli orja süsteem, mis samade inimeste poolt välja mõeldud, SELLEKS, et Sa EI mõtleks, et miks on see ja teine asi.
Kõige rohkem aga ta võtab Sult ära usu, sest ta SUNNIB Sind kasutama relva aga seda ei lähe normaalses maailmas üldse vaja. Nad võiks sunni korras õpetada inimesi kasvatama seemneid, ehitama maja või kuidas naiste tundeid rahuldada selle asemel aga igaks juhuks, kõikidest mudest asjadest valitakse välja peaaegu, et KÕIGE vähem olulisem ja kõige ebvajalikum oskusi.
Kõik need metsa ja kaitse oskused saab kenasti skaudi koolis tehtud. Kuna me juba oleme EUROOPA liidu liikmed siis OLENEMATTA Natost, meil sellega kaasneb koheselt kaitse sama mis KOGU Euroopa ründamisel oleks. Ega see siis majanduse jaoks ainult polnud (heas plaanis, muu plaan ka.)
" Riigikaitse, ajateenistuse kõige esimene ja tähtsam roll on heidutus - näitamine et me oleme valmis ennast kaitsma, meil on relvastus, mille abil seda teha ja mis peamine - tahe üheskoos vastu hakata ja kaitsta seda mis on kallis. Si vis pacem, para bellum. Selline rahumuinasjutt nagu lugeja kirjeldab, on võimalik ainult tema elukauges fantaasiamaailmas. "
"Taunoga nõus. Teatav annus hirmu peab olema ja see on loomulik. See on meil koopas elamisest saadik veres. Sest hirm kaitses sind selle eest, et sa paljakäsi ja üksi karu käest mett ära võtma ei läheks "
ei see pole hirm vaid Tarkus, Mõistlikus ja Austus
MITTE hirmupärast karu käest võtmata ei jääta
kui õige inimene oled
kui täitsa hirmu vaba oled võid vabalt ka karult selle mee minna ja ära võtta, aafrikas küll neid naisi kes ründavate lõvide keskele võib minna ja neid iial ei puuduta, sama ka inimestega kes saab madude keskel või vastas jaögpalli meeskonna keskel olla
"Hirmuga saab sedasi koos elada et sa ei lase sellele üle pea kasvada"
et nagu see orjus kus pead pidevalt midagi kontrollima ja nagu oma marutõbist koera ketiotsas hoidma, parem on meeli valitseda hoopis läbi tunnetuse, mitte suruda oma hirme alla ja siis juurde tekitada, nagu vene narkomaanid kes amfetamiini ja morfiini vaheldumisi võtta ja siis nagu yo yo d pendeldavad pidevasängistuses
"Me lihtsalt elame selles geograafilises punktis, kus mõni meie naaber ei piirdu oma viljasalve hoidmisega, vaid soovib meie oma ka rüüstata, kas siis ahnusest, kadedusest või hakkab võim pähe. "
Meie oleme ühes TURVALISEIMAS ja soodsamais punkis sellel maakeral on, parimate naabritega mis olla saab kogu väärtuses. Maailma headusega valitsejate jaoks on see soodsamaid paradiise mis olla saab.
" Ajateenistus ei võta sult midagi ära ja ei saada otseselt sõtta, aga mõistlik oleks osata elementaarset oskust hakkama saada raskemates tingimistes, kui seda peaks kunagi vaja minema. "
ajateenistus võtab sult lisaks ajale ka vahest moraali, loodus tunnetuse, armastuse, inim tunnetuse ja palju muud ära - see on PROGRAMM nagu kooli orja süsteem, mis samade inimeste poolt välja mõeldud, SELLEKS, et Sa EI mõtleks, et miks on see ja teine asi.
Kõige rohkem aga ta võtab Sult ära usu, sest ta SUNNIB Sind kasutama relva aga seda ei lähe normaalses maailmas üldse vaja. Nad võiks sunni korras õpetada inimesi kasvatama seemneid, ehitama maja või kuidas naiste tundeid rahuldada selle asemel aga igaks juhuks, kõikidest mudest asjadest valitakse välja peaaegu, et KÕIGE vähem olulisem ja kõige ebvajalikum oskusi.
Kõik need metsa ja kaitse oskused saab kenasti skaudi koolis tehtud. Kuna me juba oleme EUROOPA liidu liikmed siis OLENEMATTA Natost, meil sellega kaasneb koheselt kaitse sama mis KOGU Euroopa ründamisel oleks. Ega see siis majanduse jaoks ainult polnud (heas plaanis, muu plaan ka.)
20 February 2015 21:09
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
Kui Sa mäletad, siis ma seletasin ka, et neid inimesi EI saa seostada päris usu inimestega ja seda linki, et nad seotud päris ristiusuga ei tasu tekitada, see välja mõeldud Kreeka-Roomlaste poolt kes ristirüütlitena siin tegid ka.. ja osad arvavad, et ristisõdalesed ka ristiusust kuid need usu vastane jõud on ilmselgelt ju, juute nottisid ka niipalju maha kui võimalik ja päris usklike, et nad päris naise lähedase usu algeid ei jõuaks inimestele selgitada. Inimeste põletamine oli vana Normannide paganate rituaal mida nad tule jumala heaks tegid (kellel muuseas on sarved).
(nende seostamine usuga on osa usuvastasest sõjast, loodus vastasest sõjast)
(nende seostamine usuga on osa usuvastasest sõjast, loodus vastasest sõjast)
20 February 2015 21:06
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
See kes selle teksti sellel lehel kirjutas, ju ise on küll pädev sõja alal, ütles ta ju:
"Olen läbinud ajateenistuse ning näinud egoistlike ning üleoleva suhtumisega, lohaka sõnavaraga allohvitsere. Selline käitumine tuleneb tihtipeale mõnest alaväärsuskompleksist või on lihtsalt tegemist lühikese fallose sündroomiga. Miskipärast just selliste omadustega inimesi sealt tööpostilt leiab. Barbaarset suhtumist ja noormeeste alavääristamist rakendatakse seal ilusa sildi all – sõdur kui eeskujulik Eesti mees – sõnakuulelik ja alluv. Aga kelle unistusi sa selle allumisega täidad?"
Ega siis sõjast ei saa sõjaga lahti vaid ainult usu armastusega.
See nii tõene arusaam, et sellele ei ole võimalik vastu vaielda.
"Olen läbinud ajateenistuse ning näinud egoistlike ning üleoleva suhtumisega, lohaka sõnavaraga allohvitsere. Selline käitumine tuleneb tihtipeale mõnest alaväärsuskompleksist või on lihtsalt tegemist lühikese fallose sündroomiga. Miskipärast just selliste omadustega inimesi sealt tööpostilt leiab. Barbaarset suhtumist ja noormeeste alavääristamist rakendatakse seal ilusa sildi all – sõdur kui eeskujulik Eesti mees – sõnakuulelik ja alluv. Aga kelle unistusi sa selle allumisega täidad?"
Ega siis sõjast ei saa sõjaga lahti vaid ainult usu armastusega.
See nii tõene arusaam, et sellele ei ole võimalik vastu vaielda.
20 February 2015 19:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Alexandr Podobnyh what was Russia description ?
What you got Isza?
What you got Isza?
20 February 2015 18:05
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's video.
võtaks 7
20 February 2015 16:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and like how can you not start cry on it?
Why should you
Why should you
20 February 2015 05:32
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
you know as it is often that mental health workers are made in to belief as magic mushrooms are less then God send
in fact they some part of world even tell 100% oposite for what this part of nature is for
as it is run not by humans proper.. this institutions.. so it is millitary interest to keep people away from sources that can show them what is going on so easy
in fact they some part of world even tell 100% oposite for what this part of nature is for
as it is run not by humans proper.. this institutions.. so it is millitary interest to keep people away from sources that can show them what is going on so easy
20 February 2015 02:09
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
just for side note, i know Florence seems like one who know about mushroms, but You are also right, for sure using proper amounts ?
Just to make sure.. (not that am think you are strange or anything, but it might happen so some smart humans also, that they in fact are proper worryed or to proud to go to the feet of nature and get in deep contacts )
Just to make sure.. (not that am think you are strange or anything, but it might happen so some smart humans also, that they in fact are proper worryed or to proud to go to the feet of nature and get in deep contacts )
20 February 2015 02:05
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
My heart says Yes and my mind says Oooooo Dear jeeeeees!
20 February 2015 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
Well, fiber and water is proper good recomendation for sure, to get these up in body before mushrooms, so it seems like proper reccomendations, as to get full benafit the body should be perhaps in as good shape in these things as can be
20 February 2015 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
Free will,
But it is nice only to talk truth about it, After You pray you will get from your inner core heart, god, space, nature.. the answer... not "you decide.. after pray" as "after waching mouth i decided to..."
the pray is to get an answer and if pray says, that yes, you should not reccomend mushrooms, after you KNow what mushrooms is right, and asking once more "but why" from the source... you will KNow why not to reccomend mushrooms on this moment, if ever should answer like that come, from the source of heart
But it is nice only to talk truth about it, After You pray you will get from your inner core heart, god, space, nature.. the answer... not "you decide.. after pray" as "after waching mouth i decided to..."
the pray is to get an answer and if pray says, that yes, you should not reccomend mushrooms, after you KNow what mushrooms is right, and asking once more "but why" from the source... you will KNow why not to reccomend mushrooms on this moment, if ever should answer like that come, from the source of heart
20 February 2015 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
in fact if you know about mushrooms then you should reccomend them
20 February 2015 01:53
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
about everything Women
Security Council Resolution 1820: Women, Peace, and Security
Security Council Resolution 1820: Women, Peace, and Security
20 February 2015 01:50
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
but we agree now, finally, right ?
20 February 2015 01:48
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
well, there is still manyto take, and it should be a crime NOt to take them, soon there will be law hopefuly, that every citizen to get a passport have to be tripping few times in woods to make sure one is a human at all
20 February 2015 01:47
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
i mean i got no job and sex, :D
20 February 2015 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
how you mean?
20 February 2015 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
this realization happens with a lot of todays women, in that system, worry not,
take some magic msuhrooms and you will find your true self again
take some magic msuhrooms and you will find your true self again
20 February 2015 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
if man is in work otuside home ,that is bad enought, if top of that women also, it is just like hotell room to come and have sex when meeting at night , this is so lame
20 February 2015 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
well what man needs a women who cares to be outside home more then for home, it is not really a Women innit
20 February 2015 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
(it is EASY for system to pay man 3 times more then right now and economy would keep working same, it does not matter the amount of money that is invented they pay but in purpose it is put so low, that we have to crawl for it)
20 February 2015 01:43
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
it is crime to pay man so litle, that women have to do man work also and go to work outside home for things she would not work for free
20 February 2015 01:42
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
forcing women to work (telling they not even get food if they not do it) is a crime against natue, you know that right?
20 February 2015 01:41
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
well, you would not be if man would be a man (nature loving, women loving, god serving spiritualy evolving servents of femine)
20 February 2015 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
what that means ?
20 February 2015 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
No it is newer a womens fault, it is a fact
20 February 2015 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
No one should rasor their hair i think, i have not cut my hair and bear one single hair and will not do it ever in life, and will newer demand women to make it, why she must
20 February 2015 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
in short if women is a gay it is fault of man,
if man is a homo it is a fault of a man
and in man i mean, the man who let the invading system access the mother earth by lacking trust in God, in Femine, in a Women and Nature
if man is a homo it is a fault of a man
and in man i mean, the man who let the invading system access the mother earth by lacking trust in God, in Femine, in a Women and Nature
20 February 2015 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
no it was made for them, by the system,
no women who is healthy choses to be a lesbian, this is something that hapens with people in many different reasons and it is made happen, in most part,
no women who is healthy choses to be a lesbian, this is something that hapens with people in many different reasons and it is made happen, in most part,
20 February 2015 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
(unless they grow their hair back and start to realize, they are a women, not a man copy of a women, system tool )
20 February 2015 01:33
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
these kind of mothers should lose their right to child as they radiate anger energy to their children and anti human nature, this is really dangerous for proper healthy chlld mind development
20 February 2015 01:32
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
besides, this was like nicest docor EVER, honest, well matered person:
""I never meant to hurt either of you," Dr. Roi writes. "After much prayer following your prenatal [visit], I felt that I would not be able to develop the personal patient doctor relationship that I normally do with my patients."
"Please know that I believe that God gives us free choice and I would never judge anyone based on what they do with that free choice," the letter, obtained by the Detroit Free Press, continues. "Again, I am very sorry for the hurt and angry feelings that were created by this. I hope that you can accept my apology.""
most docors would have make this checkup and same time not radiate love in their heart but prejugement and later laught maybe about "the lesbians" in pub with buddyes.
But proper religious people can not be fake, so they must be true, honest and ... well.. FULL respect to the doctor. Taht one did not afraid to lose hes job, but saty with beliefs as proper smart honest well grown up matured person would do.
""I never meant to hurt either of you," Dr. Roi writes. "After much prayer following your prenatal [visit], I felt that I would not be able to develop the personal patient doctor relationship that I normally do with my patients."
"Please know that I believe that God gives us free choice and I would never judge anyone based on what they do with that free choice," the letter, obtained by the Detroit Free Press, continues. "Again, I am very sorry for the hurt and angry feelings that were created by this. I hope that you can accept my apology.""
most docors would have make this checkup and same time not radiate love in their heart but prejugement and later laught maybe about "the lesbians" in pub with buddyes.
But proper religious people can not be fake, so they must be true, honest and ... well.. FULL respect to the doctor. Taht one did not afraid to lose hes job, but saty with beliefs as proper smart honest well grown up matured person would do.
20 February 2015 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
it is about making point
bay is alive, alright, nothing happen to the baby.
bay is alive, alright, nothing happen to the baby.
20 February 2015 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
its not about baby
20 February 2015 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
if you are half way spiritual then you DO KNOW the agenda of other species, about invasion of Earth and Anti-Nature and ANTI-WOMEN agenda that has been in work specially strong in last few thousand years, and in full power more and more in every wave, now is about peak soon where they come to open about it all. If needed.
And MAIN part of the agenda, that is EASILY tracebale to kreek-roman homos, who despiced everything about womeny, who train women to cut hair, wear man clothing, train their homo boys to act like women in mentally also but in perverted way,
they dreaming to initiate their tools in this realm also where women will be eliminated, as they already have incupators to replace women , they praise about,
tis is BASIC of their steps,
as this is only way they can make perfect un connected droids, who will not be connected to earth AT ALL
And MAIN part of the agenda, that is EASILY tracebale to kreek-roman homos, who despiced everything about womeny, who train women to cut hair, wear man clothing, train their homo boys to act like women in mentally also but in perverted way,
they dreaming to initiate their tools in this realm also where women will be eliminated, as they already have incupators to replace women , they praise about,
tis is BASIC of their steps,
as this is only way they can make perfect un connected droids, who will not be connected to earth AT ALL
20 February 2015 01:23
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
to help people, to pray and see what God answers, if you run out of thoughts
20 February 2015 01:21
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
yes this is proper way
20 February 2015 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
my logic is proper pure
20 February 2015 01:18
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
if am would only know proper english to express my frusturation about these kind of propacandas
20 February 2015 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
This human was making a protest, at best, there is many other doctors and i am sure many have refused for many other reasons some people, this should be basic human right to REFUSE to help if you do not want to, innit? And if it had something to do with her religious beliefs then these beliefs are ALWAYS superior to ANY profession and non religious beliefs with out any argument. It should be clear, i just in purpose take the other side of argument as getting dired of that homo fassism.
20 February 2015 01:16
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
promoting homones is gay promotion. , in this case it is also not just two womens but someone who has cut their hair short showing they have something wrong a bit mentally.
If You now imagine it in your eyes you can see that this is not proper alright as this kind of behavor influences human thinking also. How they think about humans and nature and this field of energy will be picked up with a children.
If You now imagine it in your eyes you can see that this is not proper alright as this kind of behavor influences human thinking also. How they think about humans and nature and this field of energy will be picked up with a children.
20 February 2015 01:16
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
What is whorst, the gay promotion or that someone in work position practiced hes rights as human to Not do what one does not like or feel good about
20 February 2015 01:06
Margus Meigo commented on Alkeemia.ee's link.
seksisaladused... saladused seksis no kamoon,
kõige olulisem on alustuseks aru sada, et Sa jumalannaga oled voodis, kes Sind omale usaldas, (kui sa just node laborite või tehaste tehtuega voodis pole .. kuid noh, ega osal rahval muud arusaama kui füüsiline ja silma ilu pole seega... )
kõige olulisem on alustuseks aru sada, et Sa jumalannaga oled voodis, kes Sind omale usaldas, (kui sa just node laborite või tehaste tehtuega voodis pole .. kuid noh, ega osal rahval muud arusaama kui füüsiline ja silma ilu pole seega... )
19 February 2015 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on Alkeemia.ee's photo.
See "muuda ainult ennast" mu arust üks isekuse tippe mida viimasel ajal leiutatud ja väga vastutustundetu ja teistest ennast eraldav (ära kasutatav idee kui seda lõpuni ei osata mõelda, et teiste muutmine on ka osa Sinust millega tegelema pead kui inimestest ja maailmast hoolid)
19 February 2015 20:16
Margus Meigo commented on Alkeemia.ee's photo.
Ja nüüdseks kui olen ennast muutnud saan aru,et maailma saab korda küll kui mitte ainult enda muutumise peale keskenduda : )
19 February 2015 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
would love to see the belly side
19 February 2015 18:07
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
Can not really take seriously any article that mentions Snowdan guy as a leaker who did more then was planned by agency(s),
"Kaspersky called the authors of the spying program "the Equation group," named after their embrace of complex encryption formulas."
yeah they called and so it is ...
But to be honest, i just can feel anything negative about NSA, to explain why they are good would take to much of a time so am have to figure out a shorter words for it, but simply they let us know what there is needed to know.
Anyone who imagine that other beings do not have full access to all your life details you keep in secret was living in delusion anyway, unless you are multy dimensional being being able to manage all other beings in atomic level at all times and directions win whatever wave form they come.
Any kind of privacy demanding is a joke and in serious note: mental distrubance, joke on the ones who think there should be or ever was any privacy needed.
These anti religious people living in La-La land thinkng they can protect everyone accessing theyir electronic data... not just thoughts andemotons that can also be seen by some... but electronic data.. ... that you use in a tools build by them, in their network and complain if they do what they want with their things,
you not even use youown printed money for buying it but also someone elses money you served, and imagined you own... and then imagined you own your harddrive... and then imagined...
seriouslly, lets grow up and start to work on it what we need!
"Kaspersky called the authors of the spying program "the Equation group," named after their embrace of complex encryption formulas."
yeah they called and so it is ...
But to be honest, i just can feel anything negative about NSA, to explain why they are good would take to much of a time so am have to figure out a shorter words for it, but simply they let us know what there is needed to know.
Anyone who imagine that other beings do not have full access to all your life details you keep in secret was living in delusion anyway, unless you are multy dimensional being being able to manage all other beings in atomic level at all times and directions win whatever wave form they come.
Any kind of privacy demanding is a joke and in serious note: mental distrubance, joke on the ones who think there should be or ever was any privacy needed.
These anti religious people living in La-La land thinkng they can protect everyone accessing theyir electronic data... not just thoughts andemotons that can also be seen by some... but electronic data.. ... that you use in a tools build by them, in their network and complain if they do what they want with their things,
you not even use youown printed money for buying it but also someone elses money you served, and imagined you own... and then imagined you own your harddrive... and then imagined...
seriouslly, lets grow up and start to work on it what we need!
19 February 2015 18:04
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
jibberish, is that what Jews speak ?
19 February 2015 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
am not sure if he is maniac but hes haircut is a creey indeed
19 February 2015 17:13
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
You are on *Dellics again as we can see Laurie
( : good
( : good
19 February 2015 17:12
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
thats not the best slogan for a morning
19 February 2015 16:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Fertilisation_and_Embryology_Authority
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-31069173
From year 2002: "We do not need womens, safer to have babyes with robots"
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/feb/10/medicalscience.research
"But if artificial wombs are developed, the foetus could be placed in one, and the woman told she has to look after it once it has developed into a child.'
In addition, if combined with cloning technology, artificial wombs raise the prospect that gay couples could give 'birth' to their own children. 'This would no doubt horrify right-wingers
'It may also turn out that artificial wombs provide safer environments than natural wombs which can be invaded by drugs and alcohol from a mother's body. Health insurance companies could actually insist that women opt for the artificial way.
yeah no comments needed
http://www.hfea.gov.uk/134.html ("a ban on selecting the sex of offspring for social reasons" WILL be lifted, changed in future, for early stage law reasons it was put liek that )
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-31069173
From year 2002: "We do not need womens, safer to have babyes with robots"
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/feb/10/medicalscience.research
"But if artificial wombs are developed, the foetus could be placed in one, and the woman told she has to look after it once it has developed into a child.'
In addition, if combined with cloning technology, artificial wombs raise the prospect that gay couples could give 'birth' to their own children. 'This would no doubt horrify right-wingers
'It may also turn out that artificial wombs provide safer environments than natural wombs which can be invaded by drugs and alcohol from a mother's body. Health insurance companies could actually insist that women opt for the artificial way.
yeah no comments needed
http://www.hfea.gov.uk/134.html ("a ban on selecting the sex of offspring for social reasons" WILL be lifted, changed in future, for early stage law reasons it was put liek that )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Fertilisation_and_Embryology_Authority
19 February 2015 16:10
Margus Meigo commented on Paul Crocz's post.
Group: Conspiracy Facts! Or Fiction?
sounds daark18 February 2015 23:51
Margus Meigo commented on Marcin PE's post.
Group: Conspiracy Facts! Or Fiction?
Most MAIN part of the "Haarp" is the sigarettes and alcohol
and religiously retarded people (the ones who not able to see truth in bible or in magic mushrooms etc)18 February 2015 23:50
Margus Meigo commented on Angie Michelle Evans's post.
Group: Conspiracy Facts! Or Fiction?
last big ones
but in prisoned in last 1000+ years
to think about it proper, they want to remove royals by using their tools called anonymous and occupye, proper five starers who have engaged and involved and manipulated computer people against their own people.
It is EASY for darkones them self to use their own dark pedophiles to "bring them down" and add others to the list who they ACTUALLY want to take down and there is no other way but by sinking some of their own beings ( "people" ).. as it is enought if small group of people who are religiously retarded (who does not realize there is dark spiritual world in many places) to belive some simple lies, spark up a anger as they not able to see the simple international milenniums long manipulations.
Queen is like one of the loast womens who has been in some respect able to hold some part of earth under protection from these sabadges... as they kind of have to get public aproval to build macdonals on her property... but when she is gone also... it is all for the ones who not humans at all18 February 2015 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on Angie Michelle Evans's post.
Group: Conspiracy Facts! Or Fiction?
proper sheepyes ofcourse think that it is a Royals who are involved, but in fact they are the last who try to keep the humanity clean18 February 2015 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on Paul Crocz's post.
Group: Conspiracy Facts! Or Fiction?
So in layman terms?18 February 2015 23:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
18 February 2015 19:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
even cant like that asi it is jsut..
17 February 2015 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on Regina Uibo's post.
Group: Sulle-kes sa kõnnid vaimsel teerajal ja vajad teekaaslast, hingesugulast...
Ütle seda inimestele kes raketilaviini või nälja häda käes on kuskil ekstremistide vangis @ Janar Sillamaa
(just sayng)17 February 2015 18:48
Margus Meigo commented on Regina Uibo's post.
Group: Sulle-kes sa kõnnid vaimsel teerajal ja vajad teekaaslast, hingesugulast...
NU see seksiga seotu on ju vaimsuse üks kõrgemaid tasemeid mida võimalik saavutada on... kuid meil see seda seks siin promotakse nagu cocakoola ja hamburgeri vahele ,siis muidugi lihtsalt võib väär arusaam olla, kui poistele ka ei õpetata tunnetatust jms
Regina ega keegi siis paha pärast17 February 2015 18:45
Margus Meigo commented on Regina Uibo's post.
Group: Sulle-kes sa kõnnid vaimsel teerajal ja vajad teekaaslast, hingesugulast...
Enamus inimesed pole isegi surnud olnud, ei mäletata ka seda mis siis oli kui oldi.. aga juba kardetakse..
Kuid jah, religioon, maagilised seened jms, annab kõvasti vastutust ja toetust ja usku selles osas, et kohe üldse ei pea kartma.
JA eriti muretult võiks elada need inimesed kes päevast päeva head teevad ja mõtlevad17 February 2015 18:38
Margus Meigo commented on Kristi Küppar's photo.
Tahaks ka olla selline : )
17 February 2015 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
Group: Sulle-kes sa kõnnid vaimsel teerajal ja vajad teekaaslast, hingesugulast...
A haa,,, : )
ILusaid vastlaid ka!17 February 2015 18:24
Margus Meigo commented on Ragnar Adur's post.
Group: Sulle-kes sa kõnnid vaimsel teerajal ja vajad teekaaslast, hingesugulast...
Peaasi, et ikka aru saadakse juba enne kasutamist, et on vaimu maailm ja et on muud olendid kes meid kasvatavad me ümber ja et piibel on tõene. Põhi sõnumis, muidu väga konarlikuks ja lilla lullaks see tee võib minna ja siis kukub kokku ikka täpselt samalt jalamilt millelt tavateadvuse inimesed: tehakse viga armastuses, ei saada aru kes tegelikult kuidas asju juhib mehe jaoks.. otsitakse ja lennatakse.. kuid surrakse üksi... (ehk mission failed)17 February 2015 18:20
Margus Meigo commented on Ragnar Adur's post.
Group: Sulle-kes sa kõnnid vaimsel teerajal ja vajad teekaaslast, hingesugulast...
Neil veel veab kes morfiini saavad17 February 2015 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on Ranner Alloja's post.
Group: Sulle-kes sa kõnnid vaimsel teerajal ja vajad teekaaslast, hingesugulast...
Allan on hea!17 February 2015 18:07
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's post.
village witches and prophets can,
so would be strange if they would not be able... but not to the end.. as weather also has own spirit that She will not take it anymore soon.. and will spit where She wants, Tuulepoisid.. )
so would be strange if they would not be able... but not to the end.. as weather also has own spirit that She will not take it anymore soon.. and will spit where She wants, Tuulepoisid.. )
17 February 2015 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(look the video from link, not just amazon reviews)
17 February 2015 15:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Yes, i have played these games as well... when She asked... not realizing..
luckily come out from it, coming to know there is much more truer ways of care, even when She says She needs (She newer does need, it is... in the main, brain.. but Her soul will cry.. ...and well.. it is just to make society in a way that these who want to do possessions or soul breaking, that there will be no mess-ups.. it is almost full proof later to "boot up a women" in a way that whatever you did, She will accept it as needed and will be ever to shamed, broken or proud to talk about it)
Is it really so hard to see, for what we train soldiers, for what we train or bring some other fashions, the connections that fallow up for it, for others to use who know for what it is really ?
luckily come out from it, coming to know there is much more truer ways of care, even when She says She needs (She newer does need, it is... in the main, brain.. but Her soul will cry.. ...and well.. it is just to make society in a way that these who want to do possessions or soul breaking, that there will be no mess-ups.. it is almost full proof later to "boot up a women" in a way that whatever you did, She will accept it as needed and will be ever to shamed, broken or proud to talk about it)
Is it really so hard to see, for what we train soldiers, for what we train or bring some other fashions, the connections that fallow up for it, for others to use who know for what it is really ?
17 February 2015 15:00
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
Can i like that?
17 February 2015 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on Khairi Didi Omar's post.
The workers in SS Black Sun bases on the moon confirmed they saw strange lights landing on moon and there was a occupiers flag later in a yard of one scientist, so it is confirmed they was in moon but what they saw in there they have to be a quiet about
15 February 2015 19:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
After the first inkvasitors from Spanish there now comes out more and more proper good from there, Spanish spirit will rise!
“There are many families who can’t afford to eat,” he argued. “In the 21st century this is an absolute disgrace. Food is a right, not something with which you speculate.”14 February 2015 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
NIce !!!14 February 2015 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on Bo Bolen's post.
Group: The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
they just failed to mention, that cannabis grow wild before13 February 2015 19:30
Margus Meigo commented on Bo Bolen's post.
Group: The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
but it was back on times when T rex was on grass only13 February 2015 19:30
Margus Meigo commented on Bo Bolen's post.
Group: The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
in what parallel world and how these dinosaurs relate to our species making anyway..13 February 2015 19:28
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's post.
Jup, practical thing to think about... in a school alternative philosophical class room, in expensive university, in one semester, with selected group of people, on their free time, ....as long they keep it scientific...
13 February 2015 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on Kim Marcussen's post.
Kim Marcussen its a Her, She jsut had Sex change to screw ower all the homos
13 February 2015 17:19
Margus Meigo commented on Kim Marcussen's post.
pancakes
13 February 2015 17:19
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce W Clark's post.
THat would be strange world if women would not have right to not vacinate her child or kill him if She wills
13 February 2015 17:18
Margus Meigo replied to Kahoosier Hoosier's comment.
and thats to often
13 February 2015 00:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Aitah : ))
12 February 2015 21:28
Margus Meigo commented on Jan Mamis's photo.
Like that everyone all the time perhaps is not a human and ... you should trust not to trust also..
meaning, should know human nature.. and make difference between mistakes and intentional bad that comes with no appology from heart.
Usually 5g strongest magic mushrooms is sorting out the issues.. always use that with a dissapointed human or even alone.. before feeling anything less good
meaning, should know human nature.. and make difference between mistakes and intentional bad that comes with no appology from heart.
Usually 5g strongest magic mushrooms is sorting out the issues.. always use that with a dissapointed human or even alone.. before feeling anything less good
12 February 2015 20:58
Margus Meigo commented on Jan Mamis's photo.
Always keep trusting,
this is the test of trust from God... if you really trust... then you must learn all the other things also...
this is the test of trust from God... if you really trust... then you must learn all the other things also...
12 February 2015 20:56
Margus Meigo commented on Jan Mamis's photo.
Trust me on that..
12 February 2015 20:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
Internet on ikka kasulik ka vahest12 February 2015 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
Oh, vahva, suur aitah!12 February 2015 20:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Punk pole punane
Koperatiiv “Kuldnokk” üllitas kodumaise punkmuusika esimesed kassetid, J.M.K.E. sõlmis esimese Eesti bändina plaadilepingu välismaal ja saavutas Soomes ülisuure populaarsuse, Vennaskonnal ilmus kassett “Ltn. Schmidti pojad” (1991). Alguse said bändid Ave Luna, The Un Concern, 90-ndate alguse tõeline rahva lemmik Onu Bella ja Öörahu, veel praegugi tegutsev Pööloy Gläänz jt.
Aastaks 1992 oli Eesti ühiskond omas uues vormis saavutanud juba teatud küpsuse ning punkarlus taandus oma harjumuspärasesse undergroundi. Kuigi politsei neid enam vaid välimuse pärast pokri ei tirinud, vaadati neile üldjuhul ikka viltu. Pungile oli sellest vahest kasugi – no mis mõtet olnuks enam võimu vastu protesteerida kui see võim kõik sinu öeldu õigeks tunnistab. Endistviisi menukalt jätkas esialgu vaid Onu Bella, pannes oma “allapoole vööd” tekstide ja käitumisega kinni kõikvõimaliku küsitlused aastal 1992, enam ühiskonnakriitilisemast punkrockist läks laiadele massidele peale Vennaskond. Viimase tuules kerkis Sindist esile The Tuberkuloited. Muidugi tekkis siin-seal teisigi uusi punkbände, kuid nii nagu 80-ndatel olid need ka nüüd valdavalt koolipoiste esimesed muusikaalased katsetused, millest informatsioon lähimast tutvusringkonnast enamasti kaugemale ei jõudnudki. Aastal 1991 sai alguse ka Psychoterror, kellest alates võibki rääkida uuest perioodist Eesti pungis – punk muutus jälle ühiskonna (nüüd juba selle uue) kriitiliseks. Muidugi oli Psyhhoterrori liider Freddy oma mistahes ühiskonnakorra vaenulikkusega silma paistnud juba ka varem, näiteks aastal 1988 Tartus:
“Päris lõpus, kui tavapärased suvabändid lavale kargasid, jooksis lava ette purupurjus Freddy, sini-must-valge lipp käes. Ta lehvitas sellega alguses niisama, ümberringi tuisates ja kakerdades, kuni kõigile ootamatult rebis lipu küljest esmalt valge ja seejärel sinise riba, ning kargles mustaga edasi.”
Trubetsky, A. “1988 – Ave Luna ja muud sündmused.” Kuum, 4, 1994, lk. 32-35.
Mis veel?
Eks see Eesti punk soigus ikka vähehaaval edasi, laiemale kuulajaskonnale ja kõmuajakirjandusele pakkusid pinget vaid juba tuntud tegijad Vennaskond Tõnu Trubetsky’ga eesotsas, Villu Tamme ja J.M.K.E. ning mõningad näiteks kasvõi Operatsioon Õ või Psychoterrori skandaalimaigulised teod.
Suurem tunnustus tuli hoopis “raja tagant” – nii võitis Vennaskond 1996. aastal Bukarestis Radio France Internationale korraldatud eks-idabloki muusikute võistluskontserdil “Rock - Pop in the East“ parima Ida-Euroopa bändina “Grand Prix des Media“, Saksamaa plaadifirma Tug Records andis aastal 1997 välja J.M.K.E. kogumikplaadi "Totally Estoned - The Best Of J.M.K.E".
Eestis jõudis oma kogumikplaadini (õieti küll koguni 2-st plaadist/kassetist koosneva ‘best of’-ni) aastal 1998 ka Vennaskond.
Vahepeal, aastal 1993, oli esimese kasseti välja andnud momendi ainus kodumaise punkmuusika laiema tirazheerimisega tegelev plaadifirma - Fucking Cunt Records.
Aastal 1996 hukkus liiklusõnnetuses Vennaskonna akordionist ja varem ka ansamblite Verine Pühapäev, Osakond 79 ning PRO laulja Ülari Ollik (Mätas). Tema mälestuseks toimub Villu Tamme eestvedamisel iga aasta lõpul Mätta mälestuskontsert ja antakse välja kassett Eesti oleva ja olnud punkmuusikaga. Kõike seda finantseeriv Mätta Fond püüab jõudumööda toetada ka teisi Eesti pungikultuuri tegemisi (NB! Kui leiad eneses tahtmist kuidagi seda fondi toetada, kontakteeru Villu Tammega).
Sest ega’s punk Eestis surnud pole!
Mis edasi?
“Kitsamalt võttes on ka punki jaoks küsimus, kas jätkata oma action’it toetudes maailmakuulsustele või leida enda jaoks midagi täiesti originaalset. Vanusest tingituna tõusetuvad sellised küsimused vältimatult. Milline on punki suhe tänapäeva kommertsialiseeruvasse maailma, mil’ ehedus ja loomulikkus asenduvad järjest enam tehnitsistliku plastmassiga? Kui kerge või raske on punkaritel siin, meie ajas, pisikeses kolka-Eestis olla? Isiksustena on punkid teatud mõttes veelahkmel. 20-aastasena püüab Eesti punk ennast rohkem analüüsida ja oma põhimõtteid painutada. Teda iseloomustab praegusel ajahetkel püüd muutuda tavalisemaks oma igapäevaelus. Toomas Pertelov: “Ma ei tea, mis see vanamoeliste räbaldunud rõivaste kandmine oli, see oli selline spontaanne, ma üldse ei mõelnud selle peale.”, “Ma ei tea, kas ma tahaks ainult laulmisega tegelda. See võib muutuda, kuidas nüüd öelda, kuidagi nüriks ja rutiinseks või… aga jah, laulda mulle meeldib, oleks ainult kuulajaid.””
Perv, P., Trubetsky, T. “Punk Maavallas.” Käsikiri.
Tanel alias Bubu
(tuginedes Priit Perv’i & Tõnu Trubetsky mulle meilitud materjalile “Punk Maavallas”
ning suurele hulgale ajakirjandusest ja internetist leitud kirjutistele).
Kritiseerige, arvake, meenutage ning täiendage ja parandage muidugi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODCkMCrQGyshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODCkMCrQGys
12 February 2015 19:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Punk pole punane
"... Lootuses, et ka sina, punkar, ajalehte loed, pöördun otse sinu poole. Vaata avali silmi enda ümber, ja sa näed, sa oled üksi, üksi oma narrimundri ja eluvõõraste mõtetega. Sinu jutt joodikute ja ärikate mittesallimisest on kilp, mille taha sa poed, et oma olemasolu kuidagimoodi õigustada. Sa oled lihtsalt võõrkeha tervel organismil [Eesti NSV-l].” Kraan, Ü. ”Kes on PUNKARID?” Noorte Hääl, 5. august, 1986. Kandilistes sulgudes [] kommentaarit Tõnu Trubetsky’lt Eks ta’s nüüd ole – praegu on naljakas, aga siis oli sellega tõsi taga. Vaevalt aasta hiljem (1987) ei räägitud enam mitte punkarluse likvideerimisest vaid vajadusest “mitteformaalseid gruppe” mõista ning teha isegi mõningaid järeleandmisi – see oli esimene ilming peatselt käivituvast perestroikast (vt Noorte Hääl, 17. juuni, 1987. “Mitte võidelda, vaid esmalt uurida.” Toomas Sildam.) Enne, kui punkarid 1988. aastal kogu rahva kangelasteks tõusid, tuli neil juba pealtnäha uuenduste kursil olevas ENSV-s kogeda veel mitmeid viltuvaatamisi. Olgu selle näiteks, et uus mõtlemine ei sünni üleöö või Anu Klyszeiko ja Tõnu Trubetsky pulmapidu Pirita restorani banketisaalis aastal 1988: “Pidu algas skandaaliga. Otse kontserdilt pahaaimamatult saabunud Villu, kutse näpus, jäeti soengu pärast ukse taha. See oli täiesti absurdne olukord. … Minu isa ja onu läksid administraatoriga “vestlema”, meie jäime kõige muu hulgas ka nõukogude süsteemi kiruma. … Kulus ligi tund, enne kui Villu aplausi saatel meie hulka jõudis. “Siin ei ole ennem midagi sellist toimunud, mind vallandatakse,” oli meeleheitele viidud administraator öelnud.” Trubetsky, A. “1988 – Ave Luna ja muud sündmused.” Kuum, 4, 1994, lk. 32-35. Vaevalt pool aastat hiljem olid punkarid ja eriti Villu Tamme oma lauluga “Tere, Perestroika” justkui kogu vabadusvõitluse ja laulva revolutsiooni sümbolid. “Rahvale meeldis väga Vennaskond, refrääne lauldi hoogsalt kaasa, eriti rõõmustas neid “Kõik on hea”. Üleüldine melu saatis aga Villut, kui ta esitas oma “Tere, Perestroika”. Kogu ülejäänud aja istus Villu lava serval ja jagas autogramme. Seda oli väga lõbus bussiaknast jälgida, oma järge ootas paarikümnemeetrise saba moodustav lastejõuk.” Trubetsky, A. “1988 – Ave Luna ja muud sündmused.” Kuum, 4, 1994, lk. 32-35. Need aastad (1988-1991) olidki tegelikult kogu eesti pungi tähetunniks, ja õigusega, sest oli ju nüüd Eesti rahvas saavutanud selle, mille eest punkarid seisid. Villu Tamme oli rahvuskangelane, … (jne). Toimus ridamisi suurejoonelisi punkrocki kontserte, esimesed Eesti ansamblid käisid esinemas Läänes, punkbändid osalesid üle-Eestilistel kontserttuuridel. 23. märtsist 6. juunini 1990 toimus kümnest kontserdist koosnev Onu Bella ja Vennaskonna turnee, mida omavahel hakati nimetama Kuldhamba ajastuks, kuna turnee mänedzheril Jaan Vaagil olid kõik hambad kullast. Kontserdid toimusid Kohtla-Nõmmel, Koerus, Rakveres, Jänedal, Järvakandis, Nõmmel, Haabsalus, Lihulas, Emmastes ja Tallinnas. Peale Onu Bella ja Vennaskonna kuulusid truppi veel striptiisitar Maria, kes ennast igal kontserdil alasti võttis. Perv, P. "Vennaskonna ajalugu" http://www.tm.ee/vennaskond/ajalugu1.htm12 February 2015 19:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
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Kuna punkareid oli tol ajal küllaltki vähe, siis tundsid kõik kõiki ja kui kuskil mõni punkar juurde tekkis, läks kohe jutt lahti, et näe, seal ja seal on ka mingi punkar. Põhilised punkarite kokkusaamise kohad olid Tallinnas kohvikus “Moskva“ ja kohvikus “Varblane“. Kokkusaamise kohti oli teisigi.
Eesti esimesed tuntumad punkarid, kes jäid pungi juurde ka peale 80-ndate alguse suurt moelainet (pühapäevapungid jmt), olid Villu Tamme, Munk, Kont (Ivar Kont), Venno (Venno Vanamölder - hilisem Verise Pühapäeva ja J.M.K.E. trummar) ja Anti (Anti Nõmmsalu), hiljem lisandusid ka Merca, Tõnu Trubetsky jt.
Tagantjärgi vaadates võib öelda, et punk oli Eesti noorte hulgas 80-ndate alguses ikka vägagi populaarne. Olgu selle tõestuseks või 1981/82. aasta konkurss “Kaks takti ette”, kus esimest korda võistlesid mitte üksikesinejad vaid ansamblid.
“Muide, viimaseks korraks see bändidele jäigi (kuigi alguses lubati ansamblite Takte korraldada vaheldumisi solistide omadega) – arvata võib, et sellise otsuse peapõhjuseks oli ansambli Generator M ootamatu menu. Noore Hendrik Sal-Salleri punk-trio sai zhüriilt aina nulle, kuid pääses kogu aeg edasi tänu vaatajate postkaartidele. Generator M kogu konkursi tegelikult ka võitis – lõppkontserdil TPI aulas korraldati publikuhääletus, kuid hiljem tehti häälte lugemisel sohki ning võitjaks kuulutati Mahavok, kuna nemad esitasid protestivaba, professionaalset, “tõsist” muusikat”.
Morna, E. “2 Quick Tacts?” Kuum, 10-11, 1994, lk. 8-11.
Kaheksakümnendate keskel üleüldine pungivaimustus noorte hulgas lahtus, asemele tuli disko.
“Punkaritel oli probleeme põhiliselt just diskovendadega. Ja tihti peale mingit pidu läks diskovendadel punkaritega ütlemiseks ja omavaheliste arvete klaarimiseks. Aga punkarid olid rohkem sellise intellektuaalse suunitlusega ja alati peksma ei hakanud.”
Perv, P., Trubetsky, T. “Punk Maavallas.” Käsikiri.
Tollel ajal said alguse sellised uued ja huvitavad ning veel praegugi Eesti tuntuimad punkbändid, nagu 1984. aastal alustanud Vennaskond ja 1986. tekkinud J.M.K.E.
Viimaks leidis Eesti punkliikumine kajastamist ka trükisõnas, ajakirjanduses ilmusid mitmed palju vastukajasid põhjustanud artiklid. Muidugi, nii nagu peaaegu kogu ühiskond kannatasid ka need kirjutised kommunistliku ajuloputuse all.
“NSV Liidus ei ole punkarlusel sotsiaalseid eeldusi. Siin saab rääkida ainult Lääne moe tobedast jäljendamisest. Aga oleks suur viga pidada punki kahjutuks, üksnes väliseks ilminguks. On väidetud, et noored tahtvat lihtsalt tähelepanu äratada, eakaaslaste seast välja paista. Ehkki tahetakse ka seda, on säärased väited üpris vastutustundetud.
Meid on lapsepõlvest peale õpetatud: riie ei riku meest ehk sisu on tähtsam kui vorm. Läänes kujundas ühiskond punkarluse sisu ja vormi. Kas maksab uskuda, et koos vormiga, mis on nähtaval, ei ole osaliselt üle võetud ka sisu, kuigi me seda esmapilgul ei märka? Võõra ideoloogia juurutamise üks moodus on enne sisse sokutada võõras vorm, alles pärast sisu.
Eesti rockmuusika ajalugu meenutades võib kinnitada, et siin on vorm ja poos mõjustanud sisu, pealegi väga tugevalt. Ametlikult punk-rocki Eestis praegu ei eksisteeri, kuigi mõned noorteansamblid seda siiski viljelevad. Punkaritele meeldib käia raske rocki kontserditel [Kas tõesti?], kus nad oma käitumisega kompromiteerivad mitte ainult üksikuid soliste, vaid kogu zhanrit. Sellest on kahju, sest paremaid raske rocki palu võib õigustatult arvata progressiivse muusika hulka, millel on esteetilisi väärtusi ning mis sisaldab positiivseid ideid ja inimlikkust. [~!”#¤%&/()=?]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzvh8B_oYJ8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzvh8B_oYJ8
12 February 2015 19:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Punk pole punane
"...Suurem pungivaimustus ENSV-s sai alguse sellisest bändist nagu Propeller (1979). Propelleri moodustasid Eesti tollal ühed parimad, ka mitmetes teistes ansamblites tegevad, rockmuusikud. Olgugi, et nende punk mõjus pigem rõõmsa pilana, oli see tollasele võimule siiski liig – noorte hulgas väga populaarse ja erinevalt enamustest teistest tollastest punkbändidest üsna sageli ka avalikuks ülesastumiseks loa saanud ansambli tegevus keelustati aastal 1980. Siiski suutis Propeller anda pungile mingi sügavama tähenduse kogu tollases Eesti ühiskonnas. Eestis 1980. aastal tekkinud noorsoorahutustes ning suures, veel hiljemgi palju kõneainet tekitanud punkarite meeleavalduses, oli just sellel ansamblil suur osa. Propelleril endal ilmus alles 1995. aastal oma helikandja – “Propeller XV” (Fugata Ltd, CD/MC).
Kindlasti tuleks nimetada ka sellist ansamblit nagu Päratrust, mis tegutses aastatel 1979-1983 ning oli loogiliseks jätkuks Eesti esimeseks punkbändiks loetavale Kunstiinstituudi üliõpilaste ansamblile Sülf. Päratrust, mille koosseisus olid Jaak “Jekabs“ Arro - laul, Veljo “Vink“ Vingissaar - kitarr, Jüri Kermik - bass, Hardi Volmer – trummid, propageeris punkkultuuri ka laiemalt, tehes punkteatrit ja -filmi ning korraldades tantsuõhtuid. Päratrusti lagunemisel aastal 1983 tekkis ansambel nimega Turist, mis tegutses aastani 1985. Turisti lauljaks sai Hardi Volmer, Veljo Vingissaar laulis ka ja mängis kitarri. Veel olid Turistis Eerik Olle - bass, Roald “Jürilaud“ Jürlau - kitarr, Avo “Ulvaeus“ Ulvik - klahvpillid ning Andrus “Kersta“ Kerstenbeck - trummid.
Nagu praeguselgi ajal, oli 80-ndate alguseski lisaks tosinaid nn. kohaliku menuga punkrocki bände, kellest vaid üksikutel õnnestus mõneks ajaks tähelepanu äratada – sedagi tavaliselt vaid oma linnas ja üheainsa kontserdiga, et siis taas jäädavalt kaduda. Kuna Tallinn oli ENSV kõige suurem ja vahest ka kõige mittehomogeensem linn, siis tegutses enamus punkareid seal ning ka suurem osa punkbände oli pärit sealt. Bändid moodustusid enamasti ühe kooli poistest - nii tegutses Tallinna 20. Keskkoolis aastail 1981-82 grupp nimega S. V. (Süütu Vanaema), 10 KK-st kasvasid välja bändid Sex Telegramm (1979), Generator M (1980-82) ja kindlasti teisedki. Ülejäänud tuntumad tolleaegsed bändid olid Cheese (1979), Punk T (1979), hilisema Vennaskonna kitarristi Allan Vainola moodustatud Ajutine Valitsus (1980), siiani stuudiobändina tegutsev Irwin Art Project (1980), Eesti esimene naistebänd Saudi Araabia (1980), Kopli Otell (juhiks praegune näitleja Ivo Uukkivi, hüüdnimega Munk), Uus Kanalisatsioon (1982), Velikije Luki (1982), mille algkoosseisus olid Munk, Villu Tamme ja Allan Vainola, Teine Osakond, Uuestisünd jpt.
Enamus neist bändidest olid tuntud vaid oma kooli piires. Avalikke kontserte ansamblid eriti ei teinud, ega saanudki teha. Esineda õnnestus tavaliselt vaid justkui kooliansamblina oma kooli pidudel. Kui aga siiski kusagil mingi punkpidu või -kontsert toimus, läks teade punkringkondades kohe laiali, rahvast tuli kohale murdu ning üritus läks täie ette. Iga kontsert oli ikka omaette sündmus.
“Näiteks toimus üks kontsert Kuimetsa kultuurimajas, kus oli koos igavene posu punkbände. Sel ajal oli see ikka jõhker sõna. Kisti radiaatoreid seinte pealt maha, lasti lavalt tulekustuti rahva sekka tühjaks ning loobiti kott jahu saali laiali. Kuna nüüdisaegseid, tänapäeval tuntud pürotehnilisi ja lavatehnilisi vahendeid ei olnud, siis kasutati kättesaadavaid asju. Paljude arvates oli see ikka väga kõva sõna – tõeline punk üritus.”
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“Üks kontsert pidi toimuma 22. keskkoolis, kuid siis lülitati elekter välja. See oli tol ajal küllaltki tüüpiline nähtus, et lavale jõudes lülitati elekter välja.”
Perv, P., Trubetsky, T. “Punk Maavallas.” Käsikiri.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-TOLEHusHwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-TOLEHusHw
12 February 2015 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Punk pole punane
"...Tol ajal olid punkide hulgas üldse sellised kampaaniad. Nagu raha hävitamine. Kõik raha, mis sa maast leidsid või loteriiga võitsid, tuli ära põletada. Selle abil me, lollid, tahtsime riigi majandust alla viia. Mäletad, ma ise puurisin kõigile kolmekopkastele auke sisse, et – saad automaadist oma gaseeritud vee kätte, aga raha ise muutub kõlbmatuks. Kust mina pidin teadma, et Leningradis vorbitakse iga päev seda raha miljonite viisi juurde ja et see kõik on katteta!”
“Kojamehe memuaarid.” Kuum, 2, 1994, lk. 15.
Punkarite hulgas leidus nii asja kerge naljana võtvaid isikuid kui ka tõelisi anarhiste ja vabadusvõitlejaid. Kõige silmapaistvamad (ka avalikkusele) protestivaimu kandjad olidki punkarid, nad ei kartnud avaldada omi mõtteid ega tõekspidamisi. Muidugi kaasnes kommunismi ja nõukogude võimu vastase protestiga hulganisti probleeme, aga sellest hoolimata (või selle kiuste) oli punk paljude, kas siis seaduse või perekonnaga pahuksisse sattunud noorte jaoks väljapääsuks, võimaluseks oma protesti väljaelamiseks ja –näitamiseks (ja oma elu elamiseks). Seetõttu oli ka tollal pungi juurde sattunud inimeste näol tegu valdavalt ühe põlvkonnaga – sünniaastatega 1960-1970 (kuigi oli ka vanemaid ja nooremaid).
Punkarid väljendasid ennast mitmesuguste asjade kaudu. Põhiliseks märgiks, mille järgi sellal punkarit ära võis tunda, oli tema riietus. See erines teistest totaalselt ning torkas tänavapildis lausa kilomeetri kauguselt silma. See oli omamoodi šokk – vastuhakk totalitaarsele riigile ja üheülbalisele massikultuurile. Kui ikka keegi punk-riietuses tänavale läks, siis päris tihti ta ka kinni võeti ja miilitsasse viidi. Punkarite üheks atribuudiks oli juustest püsti aetud hari ning kui miilits kedagi sellist kätte sai, siis aeti pea paljaks. Juhtus sedagi, et mõnda punkarit keskmiselt kolm korda päevas miilitsasse viidi. Nagu näiteks Anti Pathique’i, keda Viru tänava ühest otsast teise minekul üksteist korda peatati.
“See, nagu selgub, oligi nii. Tegemist oli “Mosfilmi” linateose “TASS on volitatud teatama” võtetega, kuhu Anti koos teiste punkidega tookord kiirustas. Praeguse “Hella hundi” kõrtsi ette, Rohelisele turule seati tookord, 1984. aastal, üles keskeuroopalik vabaõhukohvik, kus peaosaline Viktor Tihhonov plaane pidas, taustaks Tallinna stiilseimad pungid. Kes selleks puhuks oma harjad guasshhvärvidega eredatesse toonidesse olid võõbanud. Viru tänava poed olid maskeeritud – riidepoe “Siluett” vitriin teatas näiteks: “Sex Shop”, selle ees istus punase harjaga Ivar Kont (Velikije Luki) ja jõi otse pudelist “Vana Tallinnat”.
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“Punkide lemmikuteks olidki tol ajal Moskva kinotegelased, kes iga kord, kui mõnes poliitilises filmis tuli kujutada Euroopat, sõitsid Tallinna, helistasid Villu Tammele ja palusid kõik kohalikud pungid kokku ajada.”
Meri, E. “Psühhopaat-masohhist.” Kuum, 2, 1994, lk. 4, 14-15.
Lisaks riietusele oli ja on punkari eneseväljendusviisiks ka punkmuusika, mida võib ju pidada ka rockmuusika üheks alaliigiks. Osad punkarid lihtsalt kuulasid ja nautisid seda, teised tegid aga ka ise bändi. Sajad koolipoisid üritasid alustada rockmuusiku karjääri, olles vaevalt õppinud sõrmi kitarrile seadma. Oma lihtsuse ja protestivaimu tõttu sai nende esmaseks muusikastiiliks enamasti just punkrock. Punkrocki puhul tuleb rohkem kui ühegi teise rockmuusika alaliigi juures rõhutada selle põlgust ühiskonna juhtivate kihtide poolt kehtestatud normide vastu. Muusika pidi šokeerima oma ülima lihtsuse ja massiivsusega. Tunnusteks olid kiire tempo (vähemalt 140 lööki minutis), stabiilselt tugev helivõimendus, rõhutatult agressiivne mängulaad ning sirgjoonelised ja teravad tekstid.
Muidugi olid ka Lääne eeskujud, suurimaks kindlasti Sex Pistols. Paljud eesti punkansamblid imiteerisid tollal häbenemata oma menukaid inglise kolleege. Muusika originaalsus polnud mingi otsustav kriteerium – tehti seda, mis meeldis ja oma vaadetega kokku läks (ja alati polnud ju mõtet hakata “jalgratast uuesti leiutama”).12 February 2015 19:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
Kõik ju kasutasid kunagi, peab üldlevinud nimi olema12 February 2015 19:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
Kuid sellegi poolest sooviks teada kuidas neid asju nimetatakse12 February 2015 19:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" Mehed, pigage meeles, et Jumal annab meile tasu iga tunde eest, mida me oma naise suhtes välja näitame, kuna Prohvet (صلى اﷲ عليه وسلم) on öelnud: „Igaüks saab tasu iga asja eest, mida ta teeb Jumala rahulolu nimel; isegi toidu eest, mille mees paneb oma naise suhu.“
Abielludes ei saa sa endale mitte vaid naist, vaid kogu maailma. Sellest hetkest kuni inšaAllah su elupäevade lõpuni saab sellest naisest sinu partner, kaaslane ja parim sõber. Ta jagab sinuga su hetki, päevi, aastaid; su muret, edu ja läbikukkumisi; su unistusi ja kartusi.
Kui oled haige, hoolitseb ta õrnalt sinu eest; kui vajad abi, teeb ta sinu heaks kõik, mis tema võimuses. Kui sul on saladus, siis tema hoiab seda; kui vajad nõu, siis annab ta seda sulle.
Ta on alati sinuga: kui hommikul tõused on ta esimene, keda näed; kogu päeva veedab ta sinuga – kui mitte füüsiliselt, siis mõtleb ta sinule, palvetab sinu eest kogu südamest ja hingest; kui lähed magama, siis on ta viimane, keda näed ja kui magad, näed sa temast und. Ta on su kogu maailm ja sina oled tema oma.
On kombeks, et abikaasad vannuvad armastust ja truudust surmani. Ma usun, et see on hea märk, kuid see ei ole piisav! Ei ole piisav, et sa armastad oma naist; sa pead armastama ka neid, keda tema armastab: ta perekond saab ka sinu perekonnaks. Ära ole nagu minu üks kolleeg, kes oli õnnetu, et ta naise vanemad nädalaks külla tulid. Ta ütles otsekoheselt: „Mulle su vanemad ei meeldi!“ Ja loomulikult vastas naine: „Mulle sinu omad ka mitte!“ ...
Samuti ei ole armastus surmani piisav. Me moslemitena usume, et on olemas Teispoolsus, kus jumalakartlikud ja õiglased oma kaasade ja järeltulijatega taas kokku saavad (43:70). Seega armastus on igavene!
http://www.islam.pri.ee/index.php?id=1000
Abielludes ei saa sa endale mitte vaid naist, vaid kogu maailma. Sellest hetkest kuni inšaAllah su elupäevade lõpuni saab sellest naisest sinu partner, kaaslane ja parim sõber. Ta jagab sinuga su hetki, päevi, aastaid; su muret, edu ja läbikukkumisi; su unistusi ja kartusi.
Kui oled haige, hoolitseb ta õrnalt sinu eest; kui vajad abi, teeb ta sinu heaks kõik, mis tema võimuses. Kui sul on saladus, siis tema hoiab seda; kui vajad nõu, siis annab ta seda sulle.
Ta on alati sinuga: kui hommikul tõused on ta esimene, keda näed; kogu päeva veedab ta sinuga – kui mitte füüsiliselt, siis mõtleb ta sinule, palvetab sinu eest kogu südamest ja hingest; kui lähed magama, siis on ta viimane, keda näed ja kui magad, näed sa temast und. Ta on su kogu maailm ja sina oled tema oma.
On kombeks, et abikaasad vannuvad armastust ja truudust surmani. Ma usun, et see on hea märk, kuid see ei ole piisav! Ei ole piisav, et sa armastad oma naist; sa pead armastama ka neid, keda tema armastab: ta perekond saab ka sinu perekonnaks. Ära ole nagu minu üks kolleeg, kes oli õnnetu, et ta naise vanemad nädalaks külla tulid. Ta ütles otsekoheselt: „Mulle su vanemad ei meeldi!“ Ja loomulikult vastas naine: „Mulle sinu omad ka mitte!“ ...
Samuti ei ole armastus surmani piisav. Me moslemitena usume, et on olemas Teispoolsus, kus jumalakartlikud ja õiglased oma kaasade ja järeltulijatega taas kokku saavad (43:70). Seega armastus on igavene!
http://www.islam.pri.ee/index.php?id=1000
http://www.islam.pri.ee/index.php?id=1000
12 February 2015 18:42
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
rather the scabbard have to be made well
12 February 2015 16:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i know right
12 February 2015 16:24
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
knife has many usages but it is not meant to be as main aim to hurt or worship but to do good
12 February 2015 16:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I have become across people who was on that moment not able to precive fully about what they mistake about or what am right about (or able to explain me how can i be right even better way)
12 February 2015 16:23
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
THen it is not capitalism but jusing capital for desinged way, capitalism is when main aim is not spiritual freedom, union with nature or women in love but when main aim is posession of products that can be seen or transfered to finances, as main aim.
12 February 2015 16:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
These are not real man who disagree to the end
12 February 2015 16:20
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
communism, equality worshipers and capitalism is also mental disorder.
But yea, you might be right about autism, as it is not evil
But yea, you might be right about autism, as it is not evil
12 February 2015 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
actually All women agree with me with out exception who are real women and understandwhat i say, am pretty confident on it
12 February 2015 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
gender equality is aful idea, as we already equal in Gods eye so man made communist "gender equality" looks like that: Women should be as low level slave as man so they can not spark the love while serving the system (capitalist or communist not difference at all, as it is all about Religion (nature, women) vs. Atheism (communism, capitalism, some other isms.. slavery, anti-nature, machine worship) )
12 February 2015 16:14
Margus Meigo commented on Olesya Evseeva's photo.
Aaaaga kas ka päriselt ravitseda mõistad ? : )
12 February 2015 16:11
Margus Meigo commented on Nirmalan Dhas's post.
SOme call it mental disorder also if someone is able to communicate with plants and other birds, animals.. and sometimes even humans
12 February 2015 15:58
Margus Meigo commented on Isaac Ambrose Moore's post.
Still feel not so manly about man who make makeup, color and cut them self front of mirror
12 February 2015 15:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
correction, not funny. it is a sad and serius actually..
just funny if you try to be cynical about it... about the sad situation
where people are tricked to change something like that: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html to women slavery instead... these poor man who made up this "equality" crap with a seperating spirits.. will see soon.. there is no force in a world to supress femine for long time, they just allow you , as they kind, as a god
just funny if you try to be cynical about it... about the sad situation
where people are tricked to change something like that: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html to women slavery instead... these poor man who made up this "equality" crap with a seperating spirits.. will see soon.. there is no force in a world to supress femine for long time, they just allow you , as they kind, as a god
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
12 February 2015 15:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
As you can not REALLY be proper muslim and communist as communism is anti religious u know
12 February 2015 15:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Communist african french islam...
oh.. politician in one word, common one..
oh.. politician in one word, common one..
12 February 2015 15:01
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
Kreeklased mõtlesid olematuid Jumalusi endale välja taevasse kuid maapealseid tava naisi kohtlesid nagu ... roomlastest ei hakka üldse rääkimagi.. ja 16 sajad eriti rõvedaks läks.. kontsakingad ka meestelt tulid ju... naiste vangistuseks, rinnahoidjad ka (kuigi nendel vahest ka otstarve osadel naistel..) .. ja palju muud mida naised oma enda omaks ja heaks peavad... on meeste poolt, kreeka ajast.. node vangistuseks mõeldud mitmel eri tasemel..
Juutidel aga aegade algusest saati olnud asjad ju sedasi: "sex is womens right NOT mans" http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
See kohe kuidagi Kreeka-Rooma maapealse eluoluga ei sobinud kokku... sest liialt Sumerlik.. või need osas iidsed ameeriklased ja osad aasia kultuurid kus veel naised au sees on.. et liiga nende PÄRIS-maa-lastelik (meil aga ajudes see sõna muidugi keeratud alaarenenuks.. tegelikult aga tähendab kõige pühamat..)
"Sex is the woman's right, not the man's. A man has a duty to give his wife sex regularly and to ensure that sex is pleasurable for her. He is also obligated to watch for signs that his wife wants sex, and to offer it to her without her asking for it. The woman's right to sexual intercourse is referred to as onah, and is one of a wife's three basic rights (the others are food and clothing), which a husband may not reduce. The Talmud specifies both the quantity and quality of sex that a man must give his wife. It specifies the frequency of sexual obligation based on the husband's occupation, although this obligation can be modified in the ketubah (marriage contract). A man may not take a vow to abstain from sex for an extended period of time, and may not take a journey for an extended period of time, because that would deprive his wife of sexual relations. In addition, a husband's consistent refusal to engage in sexual relations is grounds for compelling a man to divorce his wife, even if the couple has already fulfilled the halakhic obligation to procreate."
Juutidel aga aegade algusest saati olnud asjad ju sedasi: "sex is womens right NOT mans" http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
See kohe kuidagi Kreeka-Rooma maapealse eluoluga ei sobinud kokku... sest liialt Sumerlik.. või need osas iidsed ameeriklased ja osad aasia kultuurid kus veel naised au sees on.. et liiga nende PÄRIS-maa-lastelik (meil aga ajudes see sõna muidugi keeratud alaarenenuks.. tegelikult aga tähendab kõige pühamat..)
"Sex is the woman's right, not the man's. A man has a duty to give his wife sex regularly and to ensure that sex is pleasurable for her. He is also obligated to watch for signs that his wife wants sex, and to offer it to her without her asking for it. The woman's right to sexual intercourse is referred to as onah, and is one of a wife's three basic rights (the others are food and clothing), which a husband may not reduce. The Talmud specifies both the quantity and quality of sex that a man must give his wife. It specifies the frequency of sexual obligation based on the husband's occupation, although this obligation can be modified in the ketubah (marriage contract). A man may not take a vow to abstain from sex for an extended period of time, and may not take a journey for an extended period of time, because that would deprive his wife of sexual relations. In addition, a husband's consistent refusal to engage in sexual relations is grounds for compelling a man to divorce his wife, even if the couple has already fulfilled the halakhic obligation to procreate."
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
12 February 2015 11:32
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
kuid jeah.. demonation... demokraatia.. demolision.. demostration.. suht sama ämber.
Meie eestlastena peame siin meiega jalgpalli mängivate (sport on ka kurjast muide) kreeka Jumalatele selgeks tegema, mis elu on, seni kuni veel on elu - aga selgeks tegema seda sõnade ja inim tegudega, mitte neil jalge alt maad ära tõmmates.. sest ega nad nii papist ka pole, et see neid kõigutaks, vee uputus või maa nihe...
Hea film veel Holy Mountain... 70ndatest.. ja El Topo ja muidugi.. kuid just see relva mänguasjade tootluse seik sellest ja moe tööstus .. nende jumalusi näidatakse hästi
Meie eestlastena peame siin meiega jalgpalli mängivate (sport on ka kurjast muide) kreeka Jumalatele selgeks tegema, mis elu on, seni kuni veel on elu - aga selgeks tegema seda sõnade ja inim tegudega, mitte neil jalge alt maad ära tõmmates.. sest ega nad nii papist ka pole, et see neid kõigutaks, vee uputus või maa nihe...
Hea film veel Holy Mountain... 70ndatest.. ja El Topo ja muidugi.. kuid just see relva mänguasjade tootluse seik sellest ja moe tööstus .. nende jumalusi näidatakse hästi
12 February 2015 11:24
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
"divider, provider" kõlab nagu viimased paartuhatja pool aastat mida proovitud paika panna... juutide vastu oli sest nad jumala rahvas kes sai aru, et ise, koostöös inimesega, kellest iga üks on püha, toodad oma keskkonnale mida vaja ja mida ise ei saa läheb vahetad naabriga viies vastu midagi mida neil vaja, heast südamest... ja usalduse põhjal, et asi kiiresti toimiks, ning, et kõige olulisem.. inimene ise peab õppima kuidas ise ära elada loodusest ja sõpradest ilma riiklikute toetuste ja kooli süsteemita (nad ka aegade algusest saati, enne rabisi juba olid kooli süsteemi vastased... sest see ka kreeklastelt , ühtseks orjastamiseks, homo Alexander tegi tee lahti selleks.. GaGal hea laul Alejandro selleks.. palju häid sümboleid ilusti kokku pandud sellel geenius naisel.. kes väga oskuslikult kolle oma videos näidata oskab kes meid kuidas kontrollivad ja mis tasemel ja mis nende sise nõrkused ja ihad ja arusaamad on)
12 February 2015 11:22
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
Nu seni kuni ei soovita aru saada, et N-Liit, Normannid, EU, "Demokraatia" (see tuleneb sõnast deemon vist rohkem) ON kreeka-rooma järgsed viljad (sh. globaalne haridussüsteem ja meele-LAHUTUS)... ja N.liidu suuremaid ideaale ja jumalusi on Alati olnud Kreeka tarkus.. mille põhjal "lolle masse" juhiti ja teatrit tehti... ehk siis LOOJA, LOODUSE ja NAISE vastased sõjariistad maa väliste jõudude poolt,
seni kui sellest nii lihtsast asjast ei taheta aru saada... siis nagu (olgugi.. et ka vanu päris häid inimesi ja ütlusi Kreeka ajast...tundub..) ... siis pole meil mingit Suurt praktilist vahet kelle valime ja kus oleme... sest vabaks on 0 lootus siis võimalik saada.
Vahest isegi tundub, et punased proovivad kaasa aidata sinistele, ja ennast tagasi hoida kuidas suudavad.. et nagu kaob see raskelt hoitud illusioon muidu ära sest viimased nii nõrgukesed.. et ei suuda isegi oma väikest välja mõeldud maailma hoida.. ja siis jama.. hakka uut vastast välja mõtlema... (sedasi mõtlevad suu punased, kes elus hoida proovivad sinist.. seni kuni lihvitud kõik saab selleks massiks mis vaja... kuid vaja pooli ikka.. et vana trikki töös hoida.. eriti on aga vaja sõjaväge, üks kõik kelle sildid sellel peal on (eriti kasulik "punastele" kui viisnurk muidugi! ...selles siis proovitakse ameerika viisnurgad tuua ..asjaks see kah.. sest ega keegi ei vaevu ju vaatama.. et HEI?! MIKS teil SAMAD sümbolid südamikus on???? ))
seni kui sellest nii lihtsast asjast ei taheta aru saada... siis nagu (olgugi.. et ka vanu päris häid inimesi ja ütlusi Kreeka ajast...tundub..) ... siis pole meil mingit Suurt praktilist vahet kelle valime ja kus oleme... sest vabaks on 0 lootus siis võimalik saada.
Vahest isegi tundub, et punased proovivad kaasa aidata sinistele, ja ennast tagasi hoida kuidas suudavad.. et nagu kaob see raskelt hoitud illusioon muidu ära sest viimased nii nõrgukesed.. et ei suuda isegi oma väikest välja mõeldud maailma hoida.. ja siis jama.. hakka uut vastast välja mõtlema... (sedasi mõtlevad suu punased, kes elus hoida proovivad sinist.. seni kuni lihvitud kõik saab selleks massiks mis vaja... kuid vaja pooli ikka.. et vana trikki töös hoida.. eriti on aga vaja sõjaväge, üks kõik kelle sildid sellel peal on (eriti kasulik "punastele" kui viisnurk muidugi! ...selles siis proovitakse ameerika viisnurgad tuua ..asjaks see kah.. sest ega keegi ei vaevu ju vaatama.. et HEI?! MIKS teil SAMAD sümbolid südamikus on???? ))
12 February 2015 11:07
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
Kuid see rooma-kreeka võrdlus oli küll Sul kuldne Mai Luus (Y)
12 February 2015 10:53
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
Kuid kes olid Sumerid ja mis nendega juhtus?
Arvan, et vana kreelased selle jama kaela tõmbasid.. sest oma vanemate õpetused eirati ja lasti tulnukatel sisse tulla. Kolmas rooma ja see teine pool roomast rootsi normannid jms siiani trallavad ja rituaalitsevad..
Ja miks Vana kreeklased, kui nad nii targad olid.. ei toetanud lõpuni välja Ühe jumala uskumust (lisaks kõikidele muudele jumalatele mida nad ) ... kas nende tipp inimestelt, keda teada... on avalike kirjutusi teada kus nad suunasid kasutama shamaani tööriistu ? Kus nad suunasid inimesi emajärgsusele nagu tolle aja päris juudid ?
Minuajoks kõik kes otse loodusega ei tegele ega sellega, et teada pidevalt anda noortele ja meestele, tänu kellele neil sündida jubatakse nüüd armsamal teel kui katse klaasis... et need kes seda häbenevad või varjavad.. ega nad targad ega hea suunalised olla ei saa lõpuni.. nad peavad valmima kummale alluvad... ja kui väärtused on paigast ära siis valitakse libekeeled algselt tunduva karmi tõe asemel,
Arvan, et vana kreelased selle jama kaela tõmbasid.. sest oma vanemate õpetused eirati ja lasti tulnukatel sisse tulla. Kolmas rooma ja see teine pool roomast rootsi normannid jms siiani trallavad ja rituaalitsevad..
Ja miks Vana kreeklased, kui nad nii targad olid.. ei toetanud lõpuni välja Ühe jumala uskumust (lisaks kõikidele muudele jumalatele mida nad ) ... kas nende tipp inimestelt, keda teada... on avalike kirjutusi teada kus nad suunasid kasutama shamaani tööriistu ? Kus nad suunasid inimesi emajärgsusele nagu tolle aja päris juudid ?
Minuajoks kõik kes otse loodusega ei tegele ega sellega, et teada pidevalt anda noortele ja meestele, tänu kellele neil sündida jubatakse nüüd armsamal teel kui katse klaasis... et need kes seda häbenevad või varjavad.. ega nad targad ega hea suunalised olla ei saa lõpuni.. nad peavad valmima kummale alluvad... ja kui väärtused on paigast ära siis valitakse libekeeled algselt tunduva karmi tõe asemel,
12 February 2015 10:52
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
Kuid see juba esimene viga et inimesed vahest peast eraldavad N ja EU liidu... nagu näha poleks, et mõlema rahal viisnurgad... ja et programm on põhimõtteliselt sama, lihtsalt kui vaja tekitatakse olukord mis molli annab ja siis uuesti antakse rihma vabamaks kui hing otsa saab (demokraatia) et siis saaks orja tööd veel paremaks teha... ja kui orjad laisaks või üles tõusma hakkavad siis välis oht tekitada jälle jne... ringi ratast igast kombinatsioonis ... mängumaad küll mis jätaks mulje, et kõik on nii nagu koolis õpetatud..
12 February 2015 10:44
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
NU see platon ise oli kah Heebria - Rooma toetaja mu teada tema filosoofiad ei toetanud ka Kristlust ega Juute, .. see mäng kõrgel tasemel juba siis käsi, kuid noh.. öeldi selgemalt ja ajalukku jäävalt.. et poleks tulevikus segadust vast..
12 February 2015 10:42
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
JUst Mai Luus aga kui Julged demokraatia ja sõna vabaduse vastu sõnavabadust kasutada või demokraatiat... siis hoia ja keela... kui maha ei lööda siis maha tehakse kindlasti kambakaga...
12 February 2015 10:40
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
asi pole meie rahva väärtus hinnangutega, vaid tuleb aru saada, et võõr võim KUNAGI ei ole siit veel lahkunud, peale 90
see tuleb selgeks saada, ja ma ei räägi ainult kapost ja 300 000 st muu maalasest ja vanast mõtteviisist ja seebiooperatest mis nad meie telekatesse sisse jätsid
see tuleb selgeks saada, ja ma ei räägi ainult kapost ja 300 000 st muu maalasest ja vanast mõtteviisist ja seebiooperatest mis nad meie telekatesse sisse jätsid
12 February 2015 10:39
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
eile just käisin ühes esimeses tutvuste grupis siin, zombi demonzkid ja pederastid õnge otsa võtavad 12-14 aastaseid lapsi kes oma rinda ette suruvate ja suuri silmi siiralt pilgutavate piltide peale siis neid nopivad...
Üks vanem mees avalikult oma pildiga isegi pani kuulutuse, et "soovin igas extreemsetes kohtades sexida ja asju teha..."
Ühtegi täiskasvanud suunavaid kommentaare ei näinud olevat tegevat selles 7000+ tuhande inimesega grupis (DEMokraatlik Tutvus, grupi nimi.. mine alla poole vaata...)
Üks vanem mees avalikult oma pildiga isegi pani kuulutuse, et "soovin igas extreemsetes kohtades sexida ja asju teha..."
Ühtegi täiskasvanud suunavaid kommentaare ei näinud olevat tegevat selles 7000+ tuhande inimesega grupis (DEMokraatlik Tutvus, grupi nimi.. mine alla poole vaata...)
12 February 2015 10:37
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
Eesti riigil andmed olemas ju mis kogustes siin millist "erootikat" müüakse, kuid neil endal ka häbi hakkab ja siis ei julge statistikat paljastada
12 February 2015 10:33
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
Nu mul eesti porno teemas ka käpp sees, ja eestis eriti populaarne artikkel on ka looma teema.. et nagu jah seda vist meedias ka ei sobi rääkida valmiste aeg aga nii see on, nagu öeldakse, "numbrid ei valeta" (muidugi numbreid saab tekitada ka nii, et nendega saab valetada... kuid see selleks)
12 February 2015 10:32
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
Kõige esimene samm arusaamaks on, et Sinised ISE on valesti, suur osa neist, meist elanud ja toimetanud, ja Tunnistada teiste Suur võimu maapeal, Globaalset, aasta tuhandete pikkust, eriti tuleb au anda viimasele punavägede taga olijatele viisnurkadele, sest muidu neil ilmselge, et vastu uriseja on nii lammas ja lapse arengus, et isegi ei tea, et nad massiliselt aju laineid isegi muuta saavad ja toiduainetega inimeste mõtlemist muuta läbi tehaste kus neil käpp sees, psühhopoliitika , must maagia jms kõrgemad riistad ei hakka üldse rääkimagi, ja viiruste laborid mida vaja, nad saavad vabastada Ka, lisaks meile.. kui kaotama hakkavad... ähvardada on palju millega...
12 February 2015 10:30
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
tee lühidalt kokkuvõte, mis meis pikalt ikka lugeda, sest ega ma pole planeerinud alles jätta selliseid süsteeme mida vaja pole
12 February 2015 10:27
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
jah nagu rootsis jms maadel ju loomade vägistamine ametlikult lubatud ja siis need videod võib panna ise müüki ka seaduslikult kui maksu maksad. salles mõni aasta tagasi sellega lehvitasid, et neil looma bordellid osades kohtades isegi.
Kodud videod kindlalt lubatud olid.
Nüüd tehtud suts muudatusi interneti ajastul... et nagu lärmi tõstma hakati ja kuidas nad siis moraali,.. need Normannid.. lugeda saavad orjadele
Kodud videod kindlalt lubatud olid.
Nüüd tehtud suts muudatusi interneti ajastul... et nagu lärmi tõstma hakati ja kuidas nad siis moraali,.. need Normannid.. lugeda saavad orjadele
12 February 2015 10:26
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
Mailma valitsus neil ammu olemas olnud viimased aasta tuhanded, nad seda proovivad hoida nüüd, rabeledes viimastes võimalustes ja uputades oma paadi kui vaja
12 February 2015 10:24
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
NU rootsi rohelised.. kust MEIE teame kui rohelised need on ja kas need rohelised tehtud punaste või siniste ideaalidega inimeste poolt, ja siis kes miks üle võttis (võime küll aimata)
Lihtne on rohesilmsitele tulla ja sisse panna neid seadusi kui ükski sinine pole viitsinud hoolitsega ega tark piisavalt olla, et noori harida
Sest looduses Ei ole selliseid piire (kuid see eest, on veel karmimad piirid.. seda ei räägita...)
Lihtne on rohesilmsitele tulla ja sisse panna neid seadusi kui ükski sinine pole viitsinud hoolitsega ega tark piisavalt olla, et noori harida
Sest looduses Ei ole selliseid piire (kuid see eest, on veel karmimad piirid.. seda ei räägita...)
12 February 2015 10:23
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
Siin roosad ja punased jms... tuleb vaadata, kas on erakonnad, kes esiteks AVALIKULT ei häbene loodust, naist ja usku.
Kui see viga küljes on, siis samahästi kui maha kantud sest juba on teine käsi neil kummikindaga näpu tead küll kuhu pannud,
Kui see viga küljes on, siis samahästi kui maha kantud sest juba on teine käsi neil kummikindaga näpu tead küll kuhu pannud,
12 February 2015 10:22
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
Ma saan aru et nad/me "ei taha" aga kui nii lammasteks on lastud neil laskuda oma tarkuses, siis nad JUST seda teevad, sest need kes meiega mängivad on seda mängu AASTA TUHANDEID teinud, neil palju olendeid ja trikke ja aega varukas. Meditsiin igaühe jaoks välja mõeldud
12 February 2015 10:20
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
NIi need sinised punaste poolt alla surutakse, pannakse nad unustama, kes node ema on, isast ei hakka isegi rääkima.
See trikk juba aasta tuhandeid toiminud
See trikk juba aasta tuhandeid toiminud
12 February 2015 10:18
Margus Meigo replied to Mai Lee's comment.
nu mida sa häda pärast teed kui sinised nii pimedaks osad läinud on, et avalikult on "majandus tõusu" poolt läbi raha selle asemel, et julgeda looduse kasuks olla, see omamoodi kriis
12 February 2015 10:17
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Jones's post.
Group: eSOLIDARITY.com
Sharron Foster for sure they do as there is so much more fan and spectum what we can do in nature... the viruses spectrum and chnaged species... waaaay more interesting then making exposives that grow up man get bored soon.
Good to have specialist like that on board so no one feels not to much left behind12 February 2015 02:58
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Jones's post.
Group: eSOLIDARITY.com
i got solutin for that12 February 2015 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on Eestimaa Rohelised's post.
Ses osas, parem on otse see link panna, siis asi selgem: http://valijakompass.err.ee/#results/radar/fghHV4XxIJ3WGEQM_36627
http://valijakompass.err.ee/#results/radar/fghHV4XxIJ3WGEQM_36627
12 February 2015 00:30
Margus Meigo commented on Eestimaa Rohelised's post.
Kuid milline, see kompassi suuna pilt on? (see kolmas valik)
12 February 2015 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on Valguse Tee Vabakogudus's post.
Et ja kui nad ei ole siis kes on nende looja looja ? Või tekke põhjustaja looja.
oleks tavapärane matslik küsimus.. ikka vastust hea kuulda, mine tea millal vaja läheb kui keegi küsib
oleks tavapärane matslik küsimus.. ikka vastust hea kuulda, mine tea millal vaja läheb kui keegi küsib
12 February 2015 00:27
Margus Meigo commented on Valguse Tee Vabakogudus's post.
Kuidas siis on, osad arvavad, et rüvedad vaimud ja Jumala loodud.. kas siis meis on piisavalt armastust, et noid vastu võtta ?
12 February 2015 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
more atempts to show robots are so far behind that we are able to spot them (long time ago.. we not able to..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AGgUYUl4qE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AGgUYUl4qE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AGgUYUl4qE
11 February 2015 23:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
he is more nicer about humans.. but still.. the voice available is way better now..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhVu2hxm07E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhVu2hxm07E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhVu2hxm07E
11 February 2015 23:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
i know right, they still try to show that robots are so low level developed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIWWLg4wLEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIWWLg4wLEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIWWLg4wLEY
11 February 2015 23:33
Margus Meigo commented on Akhsar Kharebov's post.
screw the drones, we got brain wave radio and magnetic technology and beological weaponary now, besides psychology and black magic that has been policed few thousand years.
11 February 2015 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on Lisandra Saarpuu's post.
Group: Demokraatlik Tutvus
Keegi päris elus saab kinnitada? Asukoht?11 February 2015 22:33
Margus Meigo commented on Lisandra Saarpuu's post.
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Te ikka kindel, et tegu päris inimesega?11 February 2015 22:32
Margus Meigo commented on Isaac Ambrose Moore's post.
no real power for long time in horns only
11 February 2015 21:09
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's post.
He did at least mention that matriarchy will be only real power that can be, has been and will be.. thats good : )
Comes from a Chatolic bacround probabaly, thats good (besides the pidgin he talked to and symbol of pidgin in Chatolics )
Comes from a Chatolic bacround probabaly, thats good (besides the pidgin he talked to and symbol of pidgin in Chatolics )
11 February 2015 21:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's post.
Did tesla EVER mentioned the shamanic plants and power of pray and meditation?
11 February 2015 20:52
Margus Meigo commented on Isaac Ambrose Moore's post.
Great!
11 February 2015 20:51
Margus Meigo commented on Isaac Ambrose Moore's post.
Something for you taste Tom Palmer
11 February 2015 20:42
Margus Meigo commented on Jean-Christophe Lévy's link.
So where is offisical links to news, and people involved to it? This we have to add also, in the age were everyting is so easy to make laughtable
just for good reccomendation bro
just for good reccomendation bro
11 February 2015 20:39
Margus Meigo commented on Jean-Christophe Lévy's link.
Normal people would ask, how prooven it is to be real, old tapes still here ?
11 February 2015 20:27
Margus Meigo commented on Jerry Brooks's post.
So it is... as there is magic mushrooms and all that from a God to make us know .. but we choose not to..
11 February 2015 20:26
Margus Meigo commented on Jerry Brooks's post.
Thats for sure
11 February 2015 20:26
Margus Meigo commented on Akhsar Kharebov's link.
Well... we do know that ISIS agenda is anty relgious right?
I mean these people who say they are isis and muslims and blow up shit and shot people can not be muslims.. it is just high govemrnet tools to try to make war, hard
I mean these people who say they are isis and muslims and blow up shit and shot people can not be muslims.. it is just high govemrnet tools to try to make war, hard
11 February 2015 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on Akhsar Kharebov's post.
as if we not solve who will take them.. they will be taken and used by anyone who wills with gun power... and used.. for that part that anyone wants to..
11 February 2015 20:22
Margus Meigo commented on Akhsar Kharebov's post.
Sounds dangerous.. biogen.. before we have understood who we give our inovations ...
11 February 2015 20:22
Margus Meigo commented on Akhsar Kharebov's post.
just make sure to leave walet first
11 February 2015 20:17
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
For an Estoian it seems so clear that Snowdan is a state sponsored agent and face to release what was needed so the hand picked leaks that was planned to be released that might have damaged would not see a light in a slum of data
Most funny for us who know that basic was that everyones phone calls was interespted globally ower 20 years ago and that there is basic law in EU and Nordic law long time ago, that ALL electronic data have to be saved for analyzis for years at least, including deleted emails and SMS... all that "tens of millions of peoples phone calls are interespted every moth" .. .really.. only... seriouslly..
Soviet time they had entire villages full of ware houses data about everyones private life .. they have worked hard on it,
Only thing they hope and camble for that people will not be organized and intelligent enought to put important data in to use that is possible to extract with clobarative work from "swodan documents"
but as Doug told, would be interesting to see NSA, CIA and similar to FSB files about Swodon
Most funny for us who know that basic was that everyones phone calls was interespted globally ower 20 years ago and that there is basic law in EU and Nordic law long time ago, that ALL electronic data have to be saved for analyzis for years at least, including deleted emails and SMS... all that "tens of millions of peoples phone calls are interespted every moth" .. .really.. only... seriouslly..
Soviet time they had entire villages full of ware houses data about everyones private life .. they have worked hard on it,
Only thing they hope and camble for that people will not be organized and intelligent enought to put important data in to use that is possible to extract with clobarative work from "swodan documents"
but as Doug told, would be interesting to see NSA, CIA and similar to FSB files about Swodon
11 February 2015 20:12
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
Funny fact am heard: most bob marley fans not know that marley is white, hes fater is white army general or something like that
11 February 2015 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
how they can make these kind of things as "sucpicious suecide" .. its like..
and why they find their end is becouse of mentioning the occult, as this makes people think of religion and the proper dark side, that forces us to come out from a ferry land in to the REAL world, where is dragons, wizards and alien species
where people have been breeded with dark magic long time ago before this human generations
it is like the gerry web suecide and the secide of the Scientology heads mother in law (wife is up to now missing, for "reprobramming..") .. and no mentions about that in any news.. makes u woned who really got the power right..
and why they find their end is becouse of mentioning the occult, as this makes people think of religion and the proper dark side, that forces us to come out from a ferry land in to the REAL world, where is dragons, wizards and alien species
where people have been breeded with dark magic long time ago before this human generations
it is like the gerry web suecide and the secide of the Scientology heads mother in law (wife is up to now missing, for "reprobramming..") .. and no mentions about that in any news.. makes u woned who really got the power right..
11 February 2015 12:07
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
We so easy to throw crap on NSA or someone, every time we can, but when they reveal some state secrets to us or some phone calls about crooked people.. then we again praise that.. it is like headles chickens.. make up the mind.. do we KNOW who is working for what or not
11 February 2015 11:56
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
Do we think CIA and FBI and NSA is really working all in same side inmost of their goings?
Andwhat about army, some mega corporations, banks and politicians ?
THey not reaaaaly seem to get along with each other.. so who do they obey then
Andwhat about army, some mega corporations, banks and politicians ?
THey not reaaaaly seem to get along with each other.. so who do they obey then
11 February 2015 11:54
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
what a strange human she is.. tuching her own body.. can you imagine..
(PS: irony)
(PS: irony)
11 February 2015 11:52
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
for the communist rule, they try to push using the capitalism (part of communism tools, pentagram tools) is that they try to get power and money to the 0.0001% of people, 1% is clearly to much so they use all the force they have to direct people to fight against some good rich, sacrisising them self if needed... to pull others down with them self,
as you can not have proper good slavery if some people with goodaims still have some possibility, freedom and tools for freedom (finance, spirit power) that they can couse troubles
as you can not have proper good slavery if some people with goodaims still have some possibility, freedom and tools for freedom (finance, spirit power) that they can couse troubles
11 February 2015 11:52
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
If someone suports Isreal they probabaly think they support the religious and Jewsih people who should be behind the isreal.
So that makes them pure good
So that makes them pure good
11 February 2015 11:48
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
also another good examples of NOT humans
again, to keep in mind, the monarchy and patriarcy IS good, really good.. but there is the ones who use these positions to inflatrate human species,,, and when psoitions and respect is destroyed then they choose to keep ruling from shadow goverment (democracy) ...
luckilly now we can handle "them" behind a closed doors.. as they them self wanted to go behind a doors.. so normal humans might not even know in a moment when the actual dark ones are replaced and big battles are finsihed between magictians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_the_Conqueror
again, to keep in mind, the monarchy and patriarcy IS good, really good.. but there is the ones who use these positions to inflatrate human species,,, and when psoitions and respect is destroyed then they choose to keep ruling from shadow goverment (democracy) ...
luckilly now we can handle "them" behind a closed doors.. as they them self wanted to go behind a doors.. so normal humans might not even know in a moment when the actual dark ones are replaced and big battles are finsihed between magictians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_the_Conqueror
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_the_Conqueror
11 February 2015 11:47
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
And not even starting to mention, that people who bring africans ower to US was so raccist in a bad way (not in a good way rassist, as rassism IS supper good and clean, adult understanding HOW world really is).. so they was so bad that they was thinking that all africans are the same.. so they bring wize deep knowing africans, acient people... and amond tribes of sabadges and literally cannibalists with deep dark black magic who evolved in to most horrifing thugs and gangs and many them produce mtv videos also for some of their clan.. as music is part of the magic, it is deep tool for it.
and if anyone can imagine.. what kind of beings they are .. who eat other humans... then you can imagine... what kind of blood and DNA connections there is going around..
and now white devils have helped the keep the dark devils power in africa.. .. instead of helping indigineos people.. to eliminate "primitive" sabadges... that looted and did most horrifing dark magic in these woods.. " we " helped them .. give them guns.. and help to inflatrate better the good.
How messed up is that
and if anyone can imagine.. what kind of beings they are .. who eat other humans... then you can imagine... what kind of blood and DNA connections there is going around..
and now white devils have helped the keep the dark devils power in africa.. .. instead of helping indigineos people.. to eliminate "primitive" sabadges... that looted and did most horrifing dark magic in these woods.. " we " helped them .. give them guns.. and help to inflatrate better the good.
How messed up is that
11 February 2015 11:40
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
Lucille Gould, actually they can not be christians, this have to be simple clear fact in everyones brain, as it is just simply impossible.
This have to get clear if we want to become a bit more free from deep illusions. These kind of mass murderings was done to jews and christians by same kind of people thousands of years ago:
http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/expulsions.html just a list of few.
People kind of forget, there is OTHER species among us, who look to most humans as they are humans but they not humans AT ALL besides body they using, and even that at times is not..
So their, pentagram power main aim is to always make it look as it was religious people (jews, christians, muslims etc) who have done what they do as it is most directly opposite to the druth in most biggest scale, so at least few people might start to think "wel.. they might be..." and will tell that to friends and kids asa human.. and human belive humans.. so there the virus spreads
it is really important to get clear if we want to become more free
(yes, and crusificionists had NOTHING at all to do with a christians aim, they was the MAN anty relgios force from same group as communists (and yes, another lie is that Jews was polsevich.. chmoon.. get real.. it was system to eliminate jews in deep level, few "jew" poster boys they use it does not chnage the fact what it has been in history and before that))
This have to get clear if we want to become a bit more free from deep illusions. These kind of mass murderings was done to jews and christians by same kind of people thousands of years ago:
http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/expulsions.html just a list of few.
People kind of forget, there is OTHER species among us, who look to most humans as they are humans but they not humans AT ALL besides body they using, and even that at times is not..
So their, pentagram power main aim is to always make it look as it was religious people (jews, christians, muslims etc) who have done what they do as it is most directly opposite to the druth in most biggest scale, so at least few people might start to think "wel.. they might be..." and will tell that to friends and kids asa human.. and human belive humans.. so there the virus spreads
it is really important to get clear if we want to become more free
(yes, and crusificionists had NOTHING at all to do with a christians aim, they was the MAN anty relgios force from same group as communists (and yes, another lie is that Jews was polsevich.. chmoon.. get real.. it was system to eliminate jews in deep level, few "jew" poster boys they use it does not chnage the fact what it has been in history and before that))
http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/expulsions.html
11 February 2015 11:34
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
Some other might say they do not get autism becouse they not looking violent movies, does not drink so much, does not think wrong, becouse they are religious and get devine healing, becouse they eat healthier, becouse
11 February 2015 11:25
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
Strange as this headline is decoded in brain after first few readings as they DO get it,becouse word "Donˇt " is not registering like that in this word order up to the pont when You really see it (then you can not unsee)
"children who receive thimerosal-containing vaccinations are 27 times more likely to develop autism than children who do not.
That’s a 2,700 percent increase. The numbers just don’t lie."
and to say numbers do not lie is just embarising to read, as they do. More then anything else.
Besides all that, totally agree with a moral of the story and the point they try to make.. but as our brains are messed in so many ways a bit higer level, we should really put more effort in to choosing the headlines on websites, as they sometimes just end up doing opposite (lets say on 30% people read more then headline, ..at most.. rest of them kind of "know" what a story is about based on bits in a brain before that...)
"children who receive thimerosal-containing vaccinations are 27 times more likely to develop autism than children who do not.
That’s a 2,700 percent increase. The numbers just don’t lie."
and to say numbers do not lie is just embarising to read, as they do. More then anything else.
Besides all that, totally agree with a moral of the story and the point they try to make.. but as our brains are messed in so many ways a bit higer level, we should really put more effort in to choosing the headlines on websites, as they sometimes just end up doing opposite (lets say on 30% people read more then headline, ..at most.. rest of them kind of "know" what a story is about based on bits in a brain before that...)
11 February 2015 11:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
About the Author
Alewyn J Raubenheimer is a retired General Manager and Chief Mine Design Engineer from a large platinum mining company. He lives in Johannesburg, South Africa with his wife, Beulah. They have three children, a son-in-law, a daughter-in-law and twin grandsons. He is a member of the South African Archaeological Society. His engineering background coupled with more than thirty years of experience in the geo-sciences and, more specifically in structural geology, make him well qualified to write on the subject. Subsequent to his retirement, he pursued his passion and interest in ancient civilizations and the causes of their demise from a natural sciences viewpoint.
http://atlantipedia.ie/samples/tag/alewyn-j-raubenheimer/
Alewyn J Raubenheimer is a retired General Manager and Chief Mine Design Engineer from a large platinum mining company. He lives in Johannesburg, South Africa with his wife, Beulah. They have three children, a son-in-law, a daughter-in-law and twin grandsons. He is a member of the South African Archaeological Society. His engineering background coupled with more than thirty years of experience in the geo-sciences and, more specifically in structural geology, make him well qualified to write on the subject. Subsequent to his retirement, he pursued his passion and interest in ancient civilizations and the causes of their demise from a natural sciences viewpoint.
http://atlantipedia.ie/samples/tag/alewyn-j-raubenheimer/
http://atlantipedia.ie/samples/tag/alewyn-j-raubenheimer/
10 February 2015 23:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
An engrossing research into prehistory of European nations By michael t moriarty Verified Purchase
This is a must read for all who are interested the folk law, myths and the origins of the people of Europe
Comment 3:
The Most Important Contemporary Contribution to Our Understanding of History by Meredith Waters
I have only recently become aware of the existence of the Oera Linda Book, the account passed down for millennia regarding the Frisian civilization which greatly influenced the development of Western and parts of Eastern civilization. Because the book had been declared a fraud in error, serious scholarly inquiry into this matter has been nearly inaccessible up to the present time. What a strange fate and travesty that such an important part of world history has been practically ignored while fiction and myth has enjoyed a modern heyday.
Fortunately Alewyn Raubenheimer has taken to the monumental task of examining the Oera Linda Book not only in light of the contemporary archeological and geological discoveries and evidence which vindicate it, but in light of the historical references left to us from ancient writers like Homer and Herodotus, theological texts, and Neolithic ancient places. I had high hopes that this book would be the definitive scholarly resource for obtaining a true understanding of the contents of the Oera Linda Book itself, as well as be an entertaining, fascinating inquiry into ancient European history, and it did not disappoint. To read this book is to walk in a newly rediscovered ancient world and gain completely new understanding and insight to a part of history that is at once intuitively authentic. Passages from the Oera Linda Book which describe these free, noble seafaring citizens and their interactions and relations with early European, Mideastern and Asian civilizations are offered by Raubenheimer while he simultaneously provides the background information on the many ancient peoples the Frisians came into contact with. Maps and visuals are dynamically presented which not only clarify the revelations of the events covered in the Oera Linda Book but create all the more engaging of a read. It doesn't get any more incredible than a map of the now-submerged Frisland which matches the sea floor Northwest of Scotland.
Raubenheimer has also risen to the challenge of presenting the complex interactions of many ancient cultures that have each in turn left a formidable past in their wake. It becomes clear to the reader that history is not linear, but interdependent and dynamic, as resources, lands, language, knowledge and even genetics are shared during times of conflict brought on by geological catastrophes and war. Ultimately, I gained a tremendous admiration for the "Sea People" of antiquity that were continually referred to in epic works, sacred texts and ancient drawings alike. It seems then a tremendous loss that this imperative culture has diminished and nearly passed out of contemporary awareness. Their legacy, however, has been extensive. The only thing that would be truly unfortunate, then, is to for their legacy and heritage to not be included in the body of modern knowledge that is worth gaining in a lifetime. It is not only theirs, but ours. Thanks to Raubenheimer, we can claim it once again.
This is a must read for all who are interested the folk law, myths and the origins of the people of Europe
Comment 3:
The Most Important Contemporary Contribution to Our Understanding of History by Meredith Waters
I have only recently become aware of the existence of the Oera Linda Book, the account passed down for millennia regarding the Frisian civilization which greatly influenced the development of Western and parts of Eastern civilization. Because the book had been declared a fraud in error, serious scholarly inquiry into this matter has been nearly inaccessible up to the present time. What a strange fate and travesty that such an important part of world history has been practically ignored while fiction and myth has enjoyed a modern heyday.
Fortunately Alewyn Raubenheimer has taken to the monumental task of examining the Oera Linda Book not only in light of the contemporary archeological and geological discoveries and evidence which vindicate it, but in light of the historical references left to us from ancient writers like Homer and Herodotus, theological texts, and Neolithic ancient places. I had high hopes that this book would be the definitive scholarly resource for obtaining a true understanding of the contents of the Oera Linda Book itself, as well as be an entertaining, fascinating inquiry into ancient European history, and it did not disappoint. To read this book is to walk in a newly rediscovered ancient world and gain completely new understanding and insight to a part of history that is at once intuitively authentic. Passages from the Oera Linda Book which describe these free, noble seafaring citizens and their interactions and relations with early European, Mideastern and Asian civilizations are offered by Raubenheimer while he simultaneously provides the background information on the many ancient peoples the Frisians came into contact with. Maps and visuals are dynamically presented which not only clarify the revelations of the events covered in the Oera Linda Book but create all the more engaging of a read. It doesn't get any more incredible than a map of the now-submerged Frisland which matches the sea floor Northwest of Scotland.
Raubenheimer has also risen to the challenge of presenting the complex interactions of many ancient cultures that have each in turn left a formidable past in their wake. It becomes clear to the reader that history is not linear, but interdependent and dynamic, as resources, lands, language, knowledge and even genetics are shared during times of conflict brought on by geological catastrophes and war. Ultimately, I gained a tremendous admiration for the "Sea People" of antiquity that were continually referred to in epic works, sacred texts and ancient drawings alike. It seems then a tremendous loss that this imperative culture has diminished and nearly passed out of contemporary awareness. Their legacy, however, has been extensive. The only thing that would be truly unfortunate, then, is to for their legacy and heritage to not be included in the body of modern knowledge that is worth gaining in a lifetime. It is not only theirs, but ours. Thanks to Raubenheimer, we can claim it once again.
10 February 2015 23:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This is like most expensive book i have seen in worth of amazon: Used from $1,890.07 ..used... http://www.amazon.com/Survivors-Great-Tsunami-Eurasia-Wednesday/dp/1451527748
Survivors of the Great Tsunami is a factual account of a forgotten West European civilization in Early Antiquity. This empire from more than 4000 years ago is unknown to, or has been denied by historians to this day. An ancient manuscript was discovered in the Netherlands in 1867 and declared a fraud by linguists and historians. By comparing this manuscript with numerous authors from antiquity as well as modern sciences such as archaeology, paleoclimatolgy, genetics, linguistics and oceanography, the manuscript was found to be true in every instance. Europe's Rosetta Stone had been found. The reader is taken on a journey to examine the memoirs of men and women from Western Europe who suffered the biggest catastrophe in the history of man; the catastrophe that killed millions and became known as Noah's Flood. The manuscript reflects the adventures of these people as they led other survivors of the disaster into the Iron Age. The pioneers from Europe's western seaboard founded the ancient civilizations from Greece to Persia. They introduced the world to carbonized steel, chariot warfare, cavalry charges astronomy and mathematics. They gave man the Greek alphabet, Indo-Arabian numerals, democracy, free enterprise and monotheism. Four thousand years ago they tried their hand at arms control and nature conservation. The author provides maps and satellite images of this forgotten civilization whose extent was greater than that of the European Union. The reader is also presented with ancient maps and irrefutable photographic evidence of an inhabited land the size of Britain which now lies more than 1000 meters below the cold waters of the North Atlantic. The well substantiated disclosures in Survivors of the Great Tsunami suggest that hereto accepted European, Asian and World history had been severely compromised in the past. For too long have historians and others denied the pivotal role that Western Europe had played in antiquity. Their legacy is incalculable.
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Comments:
Amazing in-depth look at the case for the Orea Linda book of 4,000 years ago in light of todays high-tech hardware By Betty Gelean on December 28, 2011Format: Paperback A provocative book based on an ancient manuscript of an inundation over 4000 years ago (BP = Before Present), therefore this flood would have happened in 2193 BC or very close to that date. Alewyn J. Raubenheimer takes us on a journey through time as he sets out to prove the authenticity of this manuscript, Orea Linda. Is it authentic? Was there really such a civilization of democracy, architecture, shipbuilding, horticulture, literacy and monotheism? A place of freedom, culture, and industry (metallurgy). The author goes into the plausibility very thoroughly, using references from such diverse writings as the Bible, Ipuwer and later Nefertiti, Homer, Heredotus and others. The research covers many strategic areas for seeking out the past besides historians. Satellite imagery, DNA mapping, archaeology, paleontology, geology, anthropology and astronomy all play a part in this intriguing book.
This civilization, Frya's Land or Frisland, appears to be the beginning of an advanced, cultured civilization in a world where most were barbaric and based on slavery and idolatry. Even the language appears to be an ancient variation of the old Friesian language. The manuscript begins with a description of an earth-shattering global event quite probably caused by an asteroid or pieces of asteroids hitting the earth in the Indian Ocean. The Burckle Impact would have had the power of "several million nuclear bombs". The earth tipped on its axis, changing the earth's orbit and therefore the climate. Volcanoes erupted, earthquakes cracked open the earth, after-quakes carrying on for 3 years, Frisland tilted and sank beneath the global flood. Millions were killed in the cataclysm. Survivors scattered throughout the world.
The writing, though full of quotes from various sources including the Orea Linda, is interesting and well written. Alewyn Raubenheimer is well versed in the study of his research. He speaks of the early Europeans and in particular the people of Frya's Land with clarity. The Orea Linda book has been passed on and added to through thousands of generations, and was brought to light in 1872 when it was translated after a descendent who had received it from his aunt in the 1830s contacted the provincial librarian and archivist of Friesland in the Netherlands. It had been handed down in his family for generations when his aunt gave it to him to keep. The book is quite fascinating in showing the building blocks throughout history of countries as seen from the descendency of the Friesland people. The author makes a very good and thorough case for the authenticity of the book, which has long been held to be a hoax by many experts, and authentic by many other experts. He encourages further study as technology improves. One thing stands out loud and clear, he believes in the authenticity and believes it tells us a lot about global history. Great food for thought. Comment Was this review helpful to you? Yes No 3 of 3 people found the following review helpfulAn engrossing research into prehistory of European nations By michael t moriarty on January 26, 2013Format: Paperback Verified Purchase This is a must read for all who are interested the folk law, myths and the origins of the people of Europe Comment Was this review helpful to you? Yes No 3 of 4 people found the following review helpfulThe Most Important Contemporary Contribution to Our Understanding of History By Meredith Waters on July 12, 2011Format: Paperback Verified Purchase I have only recently become aware of the existence of the Oera Linda Book, the account passed down for millennia regarding the Frisian civilization which greatly influenced the development of Western and parts of Eastern civilization. Because the book had been declared a fraud in error, serious scholarly inquiry into this matter has been nearly inaccessible up to the present time. What a strange fate and travesty that such an important part of world history has been practically ignored while fiction and myth has enjoyed a modern heyday.
Fortunately Alewyn Raubenheimer has taken to the monumental task of examining the Oera Linda Book not only in light of the contemporary archeological and geological discoveries and evidence which vindicate it, but in light of the historical references left to us from ancient writers like Homer and Herodotus, theological texts, and Neolithic ancient places. I had high hopes that this book would be the definitive scholarly resource for obtaining a true understanding of the contents of the Oera Linda Book itself, as well as be an entertaining, fascinating inquiry into ancient European history, and it did not disappoint. To read this book is to walk in a newly rediscovered ancient world and gain completely new understanding and insight to a part of history that is at once intuitively authentic. Passages from the Oera Linda Book which describe these free, noble seafaring citizens and their interactions and relations with early European, Mideastern and Asian civilizations are offered by Raubenheimer while he simultaneously provides the background information on the many ancient peoples the Frisians came into contact with
Survivors of the Great Tsunami is a factual account of a forgotten West European civilization in Early Antiquity. This empire from more than 4000 years ago is unknown to, or has been denied by historians to this day. An ancient manuscript was discovered in the Netherlands in 1867 and declared a fraud by linguists and historians. By comparing this manuscript with numerous authors from antiquity as well as modern sciences such as archaeology, paleoclimatolgy, genetics, linguistics and oceanography, the manuscript was found to be true in every instance. Europe's Rosetta Stone had been found. The reader is taken on a journey to examine the memoirs of men and women from Western Europe who suffered the biggest catastrophe in the history of man; the catastrophe that killed millions and became known as Noah's Flood. The manuscript reflects the adventures of these people as they led other survivors of the disaster into the Iron Age. The pioneers from Europe's western seaboard founded the ancient civilizations from Greece to Persia. They introduced the world to carbonized steel, chariot warfare, cavalry charges astronomy and mathematics. They gave man the Greek alphabet, Indo-Arabian numerals, democracy, free enterprise and monotheism. Four thousand years ago they tried their hand at arms control and nature conservation. The author provides maps and satellite images of this forgotten civilization whose extent was greater than that of the European Union. The reader is also presented with ancient maps and irrefutable photographic evidence of an inhabited land the size of Britain which now lies more than 1000 meters below the cold waters of the North Atlantic. The well substantiated disclosures in Survivors of the Great Tsunami suggest that hereto accepted European, Asian and World history had been severely compromised in the past. For too long have historians and others denied the pivotal role that Western Europe had played in antiquity. Their legacy is incalculable.
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Comments:
Amazing in-depth look at the case for the Orea Linda book of 4,000 years ago in light of todays high-tech hardware By Betty Gelean on December 28, 2011Format: Paperback A provocative book based on an ancient manuscript of an inundation over 4000 years ago (BP = Before Present), therefore this flood would have happened in 2193 BC or very close to that date. Alewyn J. Raubenheimer takes us on a journey through time as he sets out to prove the authenticity of this manuscript, Orea Linda. Is it authentic? Was there really such a civilization of democracy, architecture, shipbuilding, horticulture, literacy and monotheism? A place of freedom, culture, and industry (metallurgy). The author goes into the plausibility very thoroughly, using references from such diverse writings as the Bible, Ipuwer and later Nefertiti, Homer, Heredotus and others. The research covers many strategic areas for seeking out the past besides historians. Satellite imagery, DNA mapping, archaeology, paleontology, geology, anthropology and astronomy all play a part in this intriguing book.
This civilization, Frya's Land or Frisland, appears to be the beginning of an advanced, cultured civilization in a world where most were barbaric and based on slavery and idolatry. Even the language appears to be an ancient variation of the old Friesian language. The manuscript begins with a description of an earth-shattering global event quite probably caused by an asteroid or pieces of asteroids hitting the earth in the Indian Ocean. The Burckle Impact would have had the power of "several million nuclear bombs". The earth tipped on its axis, changing the earth's orbit and therefore the climate. Volcanoes erupted, earthquakes cracked open the earth, after-quakes carrying on for 3 years, Frisland tilted and sank beneath the global flood. Millions were killed in the cataclysm. Survivors scattered throughout the world.
The writing, though full of quotes from various sources including the Orea Linda, is interesting and well written. Alewyn Raubenheimer is well versed in the study of his research. He speaks of the early Europeans and in particular the people of Frya's Land with clarity. The Orea Linda book has been passed on and added to through thousands of generations, and was brought to light in 1872 when it was translated after a descendent who had received it from his aunt in the 1830s contacted the provincial librarian and archivist of Friesland in the Netherlands. It had been handed down in his family for generations when his aunt gave it to him to keep. The book is quite fascinating in showing the building blocks throughout history of countries as seen from the descendency of the Friesland people. The author makes a very good and thorough case for the authenticity of the book, which has long been held to be a hoax by many experts, and authentic by many other experts. He encourages further study as technology improves. One thing stands out loud and clear, he believes in the authenticity and believes it tells us a lot about global history. Great food for thought. Comment Was this review helpful to you? Yes No 3 of 3 people found the following review helpfulAn engrossing research into prehistory of European nations By michael t moriarty on January 26, 2013Format: Paperback Verified Purchase This is a must read for all who are interested the folk law, myths and the origins of the people of Europe Comment Was this review helpful to you? Yes No 3 of 4 people found the following review helpfulThe Most Important Contemporary Contribution to Our Understanding of History By Meredith Waters on July 12, 2011Format: Paperback Verified Purchase I have only recently become aware of the existence of the Oera Linda Book, the account passed down for millennia regarding the Frisian civilization which greatly influenced the development of Western and parts of Eastern civilization. Because the book had been declared a fraud in error, serious scholarly inquiry into this matter has been nearly inaccessible up to the present time. What a strange fate and travesty that such an important part of world history has been practically ignored while fiction and myth has enjoyed a modern heyday.
Fortunately Alewyn Raubenheimer has taken to the monumental task of examining the Oera Linda Book not only in light of the contemporary archeological and geological discoveries and evidence which vindicate it, but in light of the historical references left to us from ancient writers like Homer and Herodotus, theological texts, and Neolithic ancient places. I had high hopes that this book would be the definitive scholarly resource for obtaining a true understanding of the contents of the Oera Linda Book itself, as well as be an entertaining, fascinating inquiry into ancient European history, and it did not disappoint. To read this book is to walk in a newly rediscovered ancient world and gain completely new understanding and insight to a part of history that is at once intuitively authentic. Passages from the Oera Linda Book which describe these free, noble seafaring citizens and their interactions and relations with early European, Mideastern and Asian civilizations are offered by Raubenheimer while he simultaneously provides the background information on the many ancient peoples the Frisians came into contact with
http://www.amazon.com/Survivors-Great-Tsunami-Eurasia-Wednesday/dp/1451527748
10 February 2015 23:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Perhaps you should have a look at the book reviews on Survivors of the Great Tsunami on Amazon .com. The book is an in-depth historical, archaeological and scientific investigation into the Oera Linda Book and has nothing to do with the paranormal or any esoteric ideas. One reviewer labeled the investigation as: The Most Important Contemporary Contribution to Our Understanding of History.
You may also wish to look at Jacques Fermaut’s Website (French):
http://home.nordnet.fr/~jacfermaut/pointdevueheemstra02.html
Fermaut translated the Oera Linda Book into French and has this to say (Google Translation):
The Oera Linda Book experienced a turning point in 2010. The South African Alewyn J. Raubenheimer has indeed published a remarkable book which surpasses everything that preceded it: Survivors of the Great Tsunami.
And,
Raubenheimer paints a convincing and well illustrated (picture) with various maps of the Frisian confederation to which humanity owes so much, and the disasters, including natural, which led to its decline. It thus adds to the history of Europe and makes a remarkable chapter in the Oera Linda Book’s legitimacy.
You may also wish to look at Jacques Fermaut’s Website (French):
http://home.nordnet.fr/~jacfermaut/pointdevueheemstra02.html
Fermaut translated the Oera Linda Book into French and has this to say (Google Translation):
The Oera Linda Book experienced a turning point in 2010. The South African Alewyn J. Raubenheimer has indeed published a remarkable book which surpasses everything that preceded it: Survivors of the Great Tsunami.
And,
Raubenheimer paints a convincing and well illustrated (picture) with various maps of the Frisian confederation to which humanity owes so much, and the disasters, including natural, which led to its decline. It thus adds to the history of Europe and makes a remarkable chapter in the Oera Linda Book’s legitimacy.
http://home.nordnet.fr/~jacfermaut/pointdevueheemstra02.html
10 February 2015 23:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The reports, lets hope Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia will release something similar:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1630383/14-f-0614-jan-2010-rev-5-apr-responsive-doc-2.pdf
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1630382/14-f-0614-connors-jan-2008-responsive-doc-1-3.pdf
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1630383/14-f-0614-jan-2010-rev-5-apr-responsive-doc-2.pdf
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1630382/14-f-0614-connors-jan-2008-responsive-doc-1-3.pdf
10 February 2015 15:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The "secret" report "THE RUSSIAN LEADERSHIP TANDEM IN INTERACTION: INSIGHTS FROM MOVEMENT ANALYSIS"
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1630382/14-f-0614-connors-jan-2008-responsive-doc-1-3.pdf
and
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1630383/14-f-0614-jan-2010-rev-5-apr-responsive-doc-2.pdf
No one is stoping Russians to do same, in fact, americans and we are waiting for it : )
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1630382/14-f-0614-connors-jan-2008-responsive-doc-1-3.pdf
and
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1630383/14-f-0614-jan-2010-rev-5-apr-responsive-doc-2.pdf
No one is stoping Russians to do same, in fact, americans and we are waiting for it : )
10 February 2015 15:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
10 February 2015 05:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The lyrics make more sense now, innit
Nice to meet you, where you been?
I could show you incredible things
Magic, madness, heaven, sin
Saw you there and I thought
Oh my God, look at that face
You look like my next mistake
Love's a game, wanna play?
New money, suit and tie
I can read you like a magazine
Ain't it funny, rumors fly
And I know you heard about me
So hey, let's be friends
I'm dying to see how this one ends
Grab your passport and my hand
I can make the bad guys good for a weekend
So it's gonna be forever
Or it's gonna go down in flames
You can tell me when it's over
If the high was worth the pain
Got a long list of ex-lovers
They'll tell you I'm insane
'Cause you know I love the players
And you love the game
'Cause we're young and we're reckless
We'll take this way too far
It'll leave you breathless
Or with a nasty scar
Got a long list of ex-lovers
They'll tell you I'm insane
But I've got a blank space, baby
And I'll write your name
Cherry lips, crystal skies
I could show you incredible things
Stolen kisses, pretty lies
You're the King, baby, I'm your Queen
Find out what you want
Be that girl for a month
Wait, the worst is yet to come, oh no
Screaming, crying, perfect storms
I can make all the tables turn
Rose garden filled with thorns
Keep you second guessing like
"Oh my God, who is she?"
I get drunk on jealousy
But you'll come back each time you leave
'Cause, darling, I'm a nightmare dressed like a daydream
So it's gonna be forever
Or it's gonna go down in flames
You can tell me when it's over
If the high was worth the pain
Got a long list of ex-lovers
They'll tell you I'm insane
'Cause you know I love the players
And you love the game
'Cause we're young and we're reckless
We'll take this way too far
It'll leave you breathless
Or with a nasty scar
Got a long list of ex-lovers
They'll tell you I'm insane
But I've got a blank space, baby
And I'll write your name
Boys only want love if it's torture
Don't say I didn't say, I didn't warn ya
Boys only want love if it's torture
Don't say I didn't say, I didn't warn ya
So it's gonna be forever
Or it's gonna go down in flames
You can tell me when it's over
If the high was worth the pain
Got a long list of ex-lovers
They'll tell you I'm insane
'Cause you know I love the players
And you love the game
'Cause we're young and we're reckless
We'll take this way too far
It'll leave you breathless
Or with a nasty scar
Got a long list of ex-lovers
They'll tell you I'm insane
But I've got a blank space, baby
And I'll write your name
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-ORhEE9VVg
Nice to meet you, where you been?
I could show you incredible things
Magic, madness, heaven, sin
Saw you there and I thought
Oh my God, look at that face
You look like my next mistake
Love's a game, wanna play?
New money, suit and tie
I can read you like a magazine
Ain't it funny, rumors fly
And I know you heard about me
So hey, let's be friends
I'm dying to see how this one ends
Grab your passport and my hand
I can make the bad guys good for a weekend
So it's gonna be forever
Or it's gonna go down in flames
You can tell me when it's over
If the high was worth the pain
Got a long list of ex-lovers
They'll tell you I'm insane
'Cause you know I love the players
And you love the game
'Cause we're young and we're reckless
We'll take this way too far
It'll leave you breathless
Or with a nasty scar
Got a long list of ex-lovers
They'll tell you I'm insane
But I've got a blank space, baby
And I'll write your name
Cherry lips, crystal skies
I could show you incredible things
Stolen kisses, pretty lies
You're the King, baby, I'm your Queen
Find out what you want
Be that girl for a month
Wait, the worst is yet to come, oh no
Screaming, crying, perfect storms
I can make all the tables turn
Rose garden filled with thorns
Keep you second guessing like
"Oh my God, who is she?"
I get drunk on jealousy
But you'll come back each time you leave
'Cause, darling, I'm a nightmare dressed like a daydream
So it's gonna be forever
Or it's gonna go down in flames
You can tell me when it's over
If the high was worth the pain
Got a long list of ex-lovers
They'll tell you I'm insane
'Cause you know I love the players
And you love the game
'Cause we're young and we're reckless
We'll take this way too far
It'll leave you breathless
Or with a nasty scar
Got a long list of ex-lovers
They'll tell you I'm insane
But I've got a blank space, baby
And I'll write your name
Boys only want love if it's torture
Don't say I didn't say, I didn't warn ya
Boys only want love if it's torture
Don't say I didn't say, I didn't warn ya
So it's gonna be forever
Or it's gonna go down in flames
You can tell me when it's over
If the high was worth the pain
Got a long list of ex-lovers
They'll tell you I'm insane
'Cause you know I love the players
And you love the game
'Cause we're young and we're reckless
We'll take this way too far
It'll leave you breathless
Or with a nasty scar
Got a long list of ex-lovers
They'll tell you I'm insane
But I've got a blank space, baby
And I'll write your name
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-ORhEE9VVg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-ORhEE9VVg
10 February 2015 05:55
Margus Meigo replied to Mennis Avengers Wilson's comment.
Really.. You i think need to quit a beer and smoke more
9 February 2015 18:52
Margus Meigo replied to Dana Hickey's comment.
They did
9 February 2015 18:51
Margus Meigo replied to Joseph Hancock's comment.
who ever not getting the point of the page and asking that.. have you smoked enough ?
9 February 2015 18:51
Margus Meigo replied to Brad Percifull's comment.
its .. in fact.. a joke
9 February 2015 18:50
Margus Meigo replied to Blvd Chico's comment.
wht you talking about, it is in the facebook!
9 February 2015 18:49
Margus Meigo replied to Aaron G Dasilva's comment.
You are probably
9 February 2015 18:49
Margus Meigo commented on Marijuana MAKES You Violent, New York's post.
It is known fact, if you try to eat a half a kilo even low grade hemp all at once, showing it in to your mouth, you can suffocate
specially if someone is holding you down and doing it for you, there is no point to deny it
specially if someone is holding you down and doing it for you, there is no point to deny it
9 February 2015 18:48
Margus Meigo commented on Hallo, Kosmos!'s photo.
Eestlane mõtleb "NU aastas korra vast ikka võib... lähen lõhun aint enne puud ja roogin toad ja laste riided üle, et siis saaks leiba luuse lasta.."
9 February 2015 14:37
Margus Meigo commented on Valguse Tee Vabakogudus's link.
Äitah
8 February 2015 18:43
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Mis on muidugi elementaarne, meie tugevdamiseks ja treenimiseks, et siis kui need asjad meilt ära võetakse, et siis kogu kosmose osas valmis oleksime : )
...et noh, muidugi osad ajud kahjustuvad aga.. Usu Jumala plaani peab säilitama
...et noh, muidugi osad ajud kahjustuvad aga.. Usu Jumala plaani peab säilitama
8 February 2015 16:29
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
Muidu Jüri Lina, Tallina TV saates praegu ka toitude osas sobiva lisa teema räägib, et kuidas süstemaatiliselt meile mürke antakse..
8 February 2015 16:28
Margus Meigo commented on Hallo, Kosmos!'s photo.
Ma kogu selle aja mõtlesin, veendunult, et Südame Akadeemia naine räägib : )
...nii sama vaim ..
...nii sama vaim ..
8 February 2015 16:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
Who is the guy on 4:11 again ?7 February 2015 23:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
we not even need a lump for that
7 February 2015 23:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Laurie Colson innit
7 February 2015 22:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
As long they make billions then they are protected by the same system as what prisons others, as lower police is made to blieve the LSD is just a drug.. higer police knows what is going on and can arest and send arests on all hippies easy in ordinary drug label.. but they can not do it so easy normal drug charge if you are billionaire who builds systems and whos friends can take down TV networks becouse then it would be strange for lower police as they know all the people in WAllStreet and rich people in cocaine that they are not aresting.. so then even every police who is not allowed to be greative and think would start to realize, that something really strange is going on if sme nerds are arested for "just a drug" .. as you are allowed to make drugs if you are ritch this is basic law, as poor people become disruptive and are harming their life in normal education teaching so if you are rich you already made in life so you can use what you want and also you can make to much trouble and paperwork.. ... so yes.. going to arrest rich people on LSD is not so easy as it would make to many people realise about something.. as then they have to mention it on TV and media.. and last thing you want to mention in Media is LSD.. in Big media.. in low small local news is OK as long it is put in to context as it would be jsut one of "the drugs"
well.. soon more of up there wil figure it out,
that you can slow if one wants but you can not stop a God
well.. soon more of up there wil figure it out,
that you can slow if one wants but you can not stop a God
7 February 2015 22:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
IMDB "This film was one of the best surreal films I actually enjoyed in a long time, great WILD style, love the way he animates the faces to its very creepy but awesome at the same time, I enjoyed the first half better than the last half though.
It seems like an hour and ten mins is very short but like other people said the pacing is a bit over the top I found, the first half kept me purley entertained and never got bored once, but then the last half it felt like there were almost no breaks, it was just a wild rollar coaster until the end which was just as amazing and unique as the first half but its not as powerful because its just so much to take in so fast, it should of had bigger breaks towards the end, one other minor thing irradiated me was how they shoot at the woman and husband at the end point blank range for like 5 minutes and they just dodge them all, I know its not taken seriously but that just felt so dragged out and took away from the overall ending experience.
But thats just the negative, go watch this film IT IS AMAZING its like nothing I have ever seen before, best words to describe it....
Fantasia on speed and acid."
It seems like an hour and ten mins is very short but like other people said the pacing is a bit over the top I found, the first half kept me purley entertained and never got bored once, but then the last half it felt like there were almost no breaks, it was just a wild rollar coaster until the end which was just as amazing and unique as the first half but its not as powerful because its just so much to take in so fast, it should of had bigger breaks towards the end, one other minor thing irradiated me was how they shoot at the woman and husband at the end point blank range for like 5 minutes and they just dodge them all, I know its not taken seriously but that just felt so dragged out and took away from the overall ending experience.
But thats just the negative, go watch this film IT IS AMAZING its like nothing I have ever seen before, best words to describe it....
Fantasia on speed and acid."
7 February 2015 22:09
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's photo.
ya really like these pentagrams do ja :D
7 February 2015 21:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Parem roheline konservatiiv kui (tahtsin öelda roosa demokraat... kuid noh, roosa on ka armas... aint see demokraatia trikitamine tuleb ära lõpetada ja otse inimestele tarkuse järgi anda õigus piirid paika seada )
7 February 2015 15:58
Margus Meigo commented on Edgars Grava's post.
Group: Garage48 Hardware & Arts 2015
Oh neid pisiinimeste rõõme :D7 February 2015 15:56
Margus Meigo commented on Elve Raukas's post.
Äitah : )
7 February 2015 15:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Arusaamad st õiged vast, kuid slooganid ja meethodid pole
7 February 2015 15:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
nu kui ta nii õige oleks oma arusaamades,siis oleks ta ju minu järgi üleval olnud, ja rohelised ka päris ideaalsed pole, näe 68% ühtivad õigusega aint
7 February 2015 15:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
täpselt sama öeldakse kõikide teiste kohta (v.a. rohelised muidugi), on on ka osati tõsi, erinevates tasemetes
7 February 2015 14:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
kompassi nõel näitab küll selles suunas mis vaja, mul süsteem ka isegi selleks valmis mõeldud pikalt..
7 February 2015 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ju ta läks, ma ideaalides kahe viimase poolt ja südames esimese ja tegudes teise poolt varsti, kui hästi läheb
7 February 2015 03:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
OKey, aga Sumereid ka siis polnud mainitud ?7 February 2015 03:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Mõnda pidi Eestlased ikka kõige hoolivam rahvas, lihtsalt need uued kes soo solkimiseks sisse toodi.. vast nemad?
Me muidu poleks ju siiani sedasi püsinud... ja räägi mõne vanema inimesega kes ärkvel või lapsega kes pole solgitud Eestist, räägiks nagu vana jumala endaga7 February 2015 03:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"To a busy journalist hunting for real information a question mark means 'don't bother reading this bit"
Betteridge's law of headlines is an adage that states: "Any headline which ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no." It is named after Ian Betteridge, a British technology journalist, although the general concept is much older. The observation has also been called "Davis' law"[3][4] or just the "journalistic principle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines
okey, this is why... :p
Betteridge's law of headlines is an adage that states: "Any headline which ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no." It is named after Ian Betteridge, a British technology journalist, although the general concept is much older. The observation has also been called "Davis' law"[3][4] or just the "journalistic principle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines
okey, this is why... :p
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines
7 February 2015 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
It is kind of lame, that these kind of headers seem to be disable in facebook to enable right now (about erowid etc... will work on it.. be sure about that, someone will)
6 February 2015 23:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Nu te siin kõik selles osas peaks targemad olema : )6 February 2015 17:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
ma just mõtlesin, kes kõige õigemad olid ehk6 February 2015 17:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Ei ole nii Mai...6 February 2015 17:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
(Eestlasi siis võib ka võtta, nood kes me usutavasti olime paarsada aastat tagasi ja kes nüüdseks linna inimeseks saanud)6 February 2015 16:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
ja/või6 February 2015 16:22
Margus Meigo commented on Kersti Elm Malmqvist's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ahjaa, muidugi saad ise valida ka ja sellesse maailma suunduda, sellega kaasa minna kes veel linast kasvatab ja õuna sööb6 February 2015 15:57
Margus Meigo commented on Kersti Elm Malmqvist's post.
Group: Kristlased
Muidugi, on teooria, et need keda suurem osa Jumalaks peavad, on meie ammuse maa ammu üle võtnud muu maailma ruumi olendid, kes meid virtuaalse maailma mida meie peas mõjutavad ja kana kasvatuse vahepealsesse meie jaoks kõrge kujutlematu tehnoloogiaga meie arengu teid suunanud on.
Seda väga lihtne aru saada, praegune tipp teadus (mitte see mis lehest loed, vaid mille oletatavaid võimalusi veel kardetakse selgitada)
on ju igasuguse empiirilise arvutuse põhjal alg arengu käigus, võrdle viimase tehnoloogia olemasolevaid osi (alates kõikidest eri tarkvaradest kuni tehnikani) kuni igasuguste meditsiiniliste ja teaduslike teadmisteni, kogu mahus viimane 200 aastat ja siis 200 aasta kaupa enne seda.
Väga väga selgelt märgatav (ehk rohkem kui 10 000 kordne koguselisuselt?), hüppe tekkinud, eks muidugi ka langusi viimase 6000 aasta jooksul, kuid eelkõige on VÄGA selge, et meie igapäevased ehitised ja tehnika, on maavälisena tunduvad pea igale eelnevale ajale enne 1800. Kus veel oli mehaanika.
Seega, seda kiirust nähes, on ju raske kujutada ette mida 200 aasta pärast on? Juba praegu laborid oskavad liha kasvata alg ainest, osatakse printida organeid inimestele, printida toitu mis saab eriti populaarseks varsti (enamus mida Star Warsis või Battlestar Galacticas nähtud meie lapsed veel näevad).
Juba lubati naiste eose alguses loote geneetiliselt muutmine ja arvestades, et nad pimedas heledavaid hiiri ja palju muud juba teha oskavad me siinkohal ei sooviks mõelda, mida juba testitud maaalustes laborites viimase 100 aasta jooksul.
Sellel pole ulmega midagi pistmist, see on praegu mis juba on "tavaline" kõrgema klassi rikaste ja teadlaste seas.
Ärge unustage, et meelega erinevaid teadusuringuid ja koole hoitakse "laborites", karpides, teineteisest eemal, et iga teadlane ja õpilane ninapidi "omas" alas sees oleks, tehes enda jaoks oma õpeaine oma religiooniks mida talle just kõige olulisemana näidatakse, kuhu ta kogu oma hinge paneb. Imetakse kõik välja selles alas mis võimalik aga meelega kokku omavahel eri ala avaliku elu teadlasi ja õpilasi ei lasta, sest siis nad saaksid peagi aru kui ohtlik see on mis nad teevad kui keegi jupid kokku omavahel paneks.. ja peagi nad saavad aru, et juppide kokku panemiseks eks ole kindlasti olemas ka oma laborid ja osakonnad juba ammu...
Nii, et siis 200 aastat, kuhu jutuga jõuda tahan
nüüd meie oma teadustega, me võiksime võtta vabalt million inimest, nad laagriks teha kus nad usuvad mida iganes ja teevad mida iganes (tehniliselt).
Soos oleks ju äärmiselt naiivne, usuvabalt mõelda, et kui meil on olnud kontakt muude olenditega, siis esiteks, nad tuleks nagu hunt lamba nahas, meie sugustena, analüüsiks kõiki meie neile tunduvaid kasutatavaid omadusi (headus, vale mitte tundmine, vägivalla alla allumine, kartmine, haigused, soov teenida, soov uskuda ka siis kui usk ära lõhutud jms) ning kiirelt kokku panna lihtne plaan kuidas ja kui mitme tuhande aastaga, milliste aja järkudega ka kõige võimsamad kohalikud võlurid kes mingi ime väe kuskilt kuidagi kutsuvad ära nullida nende oma inimeste poolt keda tundub, et ta ründama pole nõus, seega ka seda saab kasutada kasutades vale ja valu ja pettumust.
Enamuste selliste plaanidega saaks ka keskmised keskkooli inimesed hakkama andes algparameetriks neile viimase 200 aastast teaduse, poliitika ja sõja kunsti poolt 500 aastat ainult ees olev planeet, isegi kui meie selle planeedi esimene ülevõtu projekt oleks, lihtsalt omades meile praegu teada olevaid inim käitumise profiile oleks naeruväärne arvata, et kõike seda nad just ei teeks mis praegu toimub.
Muidugi usklikutel sellele samala asjale on vint nii mitu korda peale keeratud, et nad ise ka ei saa aru kui hirmuäratvalt suur ja võimas see on, ammugi siis "tava inimesed", vaimust vaesed.
Me ju usklikuna räägime sula selgelt, maa mateeria välistest olenditest kes suudavad mitte aint mis iganes kujul vaid ka inim kehasse ja vast ka mõtetesse, unenägudesse minna, India usu järgi nad lausa nii mitu korda Astmes million aastat ees ja väga mitut sorti (neil see matemaatika väga üli suur ja täpne nii suuruses kui väikses ühikutes, pole õrna aimugi, ja siiani usutamatu kuidas neil sellised arusaamad saavad olla).
Kuid jah, meil oleks VÄGA suureks probleemiks ka kui olukord oleks ainult meist paarsada aastat ees ja meie sarnaste tumedate mõtete ja suurte teadmistega inimesed siin miskit vajaliku saama tulevad, oma kosmilises poliitiliselt korrektses usus veel tekitades olukord, kus hiljem SELGELT näha oleks, et me ise seda kõike soovisime, tegime ja lubasime, sest neil kõik mitmekordses kristallmälus.
Kuid jah.. usklikute jaoks "tulnukate" arusaam peaks olema poisikeste, tita tasemel, väga elementaarne. Väga väga elementaarne, lihtsalt usklikute "tulnukad" on nii palju tava inimese ajast ja teadmistest ees, et see võtaks peaigalt valituselt ja teadlaselt isu ära kodust üldse välja tulla ja teha midagi enamat kui Kuningas Salomon oma sõnade järgses raamatus.
Ja vast ka nende Hinged, ja praegused maailmad, on niikaua elus kui me mäletame. Kui Su juuri ei mäleta keegi siis kuidas sa oma vajalikust tõestad, kes teab kui ära kaod ja miks peaks keegi soovima Sind mäletada või sinuga tegeleda ka mujal kui Sind siin su oma pere puugi ära unustab või mitte mingit kasu Sinu tegudest oma olemasoleva elu suuna osas ei oma.
Kaod nagu suits.
Rääkigu mida iganes need kes räägivad, et midagi ei kao vaid läheb ühest asjast teise, jah mullaks läksid, kuid kas sellel vihmaussil on ilmtingimatta sinuga mingitki pistmist kes seda mulda söönud on paar põlvkonda hiljem ?
Et jah, see siis tuli Meelis Vesii ja Kersti Elm Malmqvist viimaste juttude peale, kuigi näib olema vähe seotud.. mulle mitte, kuid seda õiget sidumis paela ei leidnud lihtsalt sõnades.
Sest mingil põhjusel ikka eri ajajärkudes on lauldes sarnaseid sönasi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n79B3FHi0Fs
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/952/ (sõnad)
Sest kui on nii nagu Mattiuse 7:13 siis mida me enamus paar miljardit uskliku siin niiväga kilkame? Kirja pandi need asjad häda korras, sest polnud vaja enne, aga teati, sest öeldi, et on vajakuna tuleb aeg kus kõige elementaarsemat ka ei teata kuid kirja on vaja panna sedasi, et need kelle pärast ei mäleta tunneks lõpuks ise, et saavad seda enda kasuks kasutada.. ja sedasi, tegelikult panevad ka ennast käsu alla, sest kes neist siis poleks kuunud Jeesusest tema lugusi erinevatel aegadel tehes? Kes ikka ja jälle uuesti tuleb, seni kuni vaja. On ainult mõned asjad mida Jumal ei soovi muuta kuid oma enda kuulutatud kokkulepped pole kindlasti need mille kaudu ta ennast mornendama peaks ja meid teenima, meile kuuletuma ja sedasikäituma igas asjas nagu meile lubatud. Kuigi siin maal mõnel mulje jäänud, et nad saavad käsu kirja järgi Jumalalt nõuda ja ette arvestada oma kasu osas mida teine teha tohib või mitte, et siis Jumalat korrale kutsuda. Aegade lõpuni.
http://www.piibel.net/sisukord.html?q=Mt+7#q=Mt%207
Vabandust?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n79B3FHi0Fs
6 February 2015 15:54
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: Kristlased
või olid Vatikan kah selles pundis.. nu selle peate ise välja selgitama6 February 2015 11:53
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: Kristlased
Marika Krassova kas protestandid on kristlased, hävitasid juute nii kuidas jaksasid, Martin Lutheri sõnavõttudest ei hakka üldse rääkimagi mille kõrval hitler ikka väga varju jääb6 February 2015 11:52
Margus Meigo commented on Fiona Carbis's post.
: )
6 February 2015 11:47
Margus Meigo commented on Kersti Elm Malmqvist's post.
Group: Kristlased
..isegi siis. ... kulla eest sai keegi ikka raha..
Rahast rääkides jah..
vastates algsele mõttele, jama on jah sellega, et see töö mis pole küll töö aga see mida võiks ikka iga normaalne inimene teha (teisi üleliigsetest vaimudest säästa ja aidata elu suunata ja küsida suunamist vastu... selle eest kui saadakse tasu siis veider kui aga meelega tehakse seda mis ei sobi, mida maailmal vaja pole ja mis pettusega pooleks ärid, siis sellega teenimine lihtsalt nimetatakse raha teenimiseks ja seda keegi ebasobilikuks ei pea, sest teeb tööd ju, ajab äri, olgu see siis relvaäri, kahjulike ravimite või vahendaja, keegi eriti ei hooli noomimise eest, sest seda nimetatkase elukutseks ja vabaduseks, raske... peab mõtlema sellele)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0AZIFmkogYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0AZIFmkogY
6 February 2015 09:54
Margus Meigo commented on Kersti Elm Malmqvist's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ja kui sa selle saad siis Sa ju annad edasi ta.. ega siis Raha Omanike (need kes raha päriselt omavad) summad väiksemaks ei jää sest raha ju ikka jääb alles ja tuleb suure ringiga tagasi, kui just kulda ei osteta mis laevaga põhja või mujale kosmosesse ei saadeta6 February 2015 09:47
Margus Meigo commented on Kersti Elm Malmqvist's post.
Group: Kristlased
Lisaks on veel arusaam, et raha võib olla kurjast, kui seda teenid jumala teenimise asemel, kuid kui seda antakse või kui see tuleb naise läbi see raha ning tõotad selle panna kasutusse mis tead olema parim, siis tunduvad asjad õigemad olema.
Naise läbi selle pärast, et siis pole kurjal niipalju nõudlust Su üle, sest meestel on tihti raha kesksem mõtlemine ja siis ta kipub selle peale mõtlema ja selle nimel võitlema rohkem, et oma raha tagasi saada samas kui naised rohkema hea meelega heategevuseks loovutavad, sest saavad kergemini aru suurest plaanist ja naiivsest loogikast, et kui kõik nii teevad rohkem, siis elu paraneb inim rassil ja eriti kiirest selles osas kus vaja.
(ühel hästi madal ja lai ja teisel kõrge ja peenike kauss kuhu rikkust tilgub)6 February 2015 09:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.quickleak.org/Pjay872f
http://www.reactorbreach.com/showthread.php?tid=1445
PDF: https://ia902703.us.archive.org/27/items/pdfy-wOo7ckhzWv60jztj/Facts%20Behind%20A%20Planned%20Takeover%20Of%20The%20United%20States.pdf
https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-wOo7ckhzWv60jztj/Facts%20Behind%20A%20Planned%20Takeover%20Of%20The%20United%20States_djvu.txt
http://www.slideshare.net/TopSecretSpyFiles/facts-behind-a-planned-takeover-of-the-united-states-reactor-breachcom
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/173178219/FACTS-BEHIND-A-PLANNED-TAKEOVER-OF-THE-UNITED-STATES
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141203075023-15260610-outline-forensic-analysis-of-sony-hack
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141202193626-15260610-be-careful-in-cyber-warfare-not-proven-yet-on-sony-hack
list like that will be, but real one
https://www.linkedin.com/title/pastry-commies
Can see ya cleaned net up well but not all of the bits.
Well.. i guess you did need still to pick up the last ones... to find who is interested at least.
Enough for us, we party as delightfully as we can
http://www.reactorbreach.com/showthread.php?tid=1445
PDF: https://ia902703.us.archive.org/27/items/pdfy-wOo7ckhzWv60jztj/Facts%20Behind%20A%20Planned%20Takeover%20Of%20The%20United%20States.pdf
https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-wOo7ckhzWv60jztj/Facts%20Behind%20A%20Planned%20Takeover%20Of%20The%20United%20States_djvu.txt
http://www.slideshare.net/TopSecretSpyFiles/facts-behind-a-planned-takeover-of-the-united-states-reactor-breachcom
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/173178219/FACTS-BEHIND-A-PLANNED-TAKEOVER-OF-THE-UNITED-STATES
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141203075023-15260610-outline-forensic-analysis-of-sony-hack
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141202193626-15260610-be-careful-in-cyber-warfare-not-proven-yet-on-sony-hack
list like that will be, but real one
https://www.linkedin.com/title/pastry-commies
Can see ya cleaned net up well but not all of the bits.
Well.. i guess you did need still to pick up the last ones... to find who is interested at least.
Enough for us, we party as delightfully as we can
https://www.quickleak.org/Pjay872f
5 February 2015 20:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
to William Buchanan Professor at Napier University from Luke Hutchison to
TED Fellow; PhD (CS, MIT CSAIL); big data / AI / ML / comp bio / parallel computing
SPEData.zip (with the exact SHA1 hash code that you mentioned) only contained three files: list1.txt, list2.txt and readme.txt. The other files came from somewhere else. Care to elaborate whence
bdw remeber?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal
TED Fellow; PhD (CS, MIT CSAIL); big data / AI / ML / comp bio / parallel computing
SPEData.zip (with the exact SHA1 hash code that you mentioned) only contained three files: list1.txt, list2.txt and readme.txt. The other files came from somewhere else. Care to elaborate whence
bdw remeber?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal
5 February 2015 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Most of the documents are available as either as Word Document or as a PDF equivalent. The text within the "FACTS BEHIND A PLANNED TAKEOVER OF THE UNITED STATES" gives hints of some of the motivation behind the hack:
A government that would sell out its country and betray its people is a government full of traitors and cowards!” Has the government hit a new low, or has it already hit rock bottom? People of the United States should be concerned, very concerned. As more revelations and exposé(s) have proven, civilians are being robbed blind. Acts of mass fraud and high treason are now common everyday memes and the fact that noone is being prosecuted for these well documented crimes and conspiracies against the American public is nothing less than shocking. America is falling, and it is falling faster and harder every year. “The guerrilla economist” has been warning us that by the year 2017, the US, as we know it now, will be destroyed. I do believe this man is correct. The only thing this fascist government has been concerned about is how to relinquish the rest of our civil and human rights while we are facing great danger of epic proportions. In the 1950(s), the government would have been issuing red alerts and instructing people to protect themselves - today the world is upside down and government response is completely opposite. Just what the hell is going on? Well, government has hit rock bottom and in fact this government has already been overthrown. We no longer have a true government anymore, it has become a fascist dictatorship. Well the American people damn well better be prepared, those commies are here! I’m NOT referring to Communist China, I’m referring to new communist Amerika. These fascists; (our so-called) “leaders”; have proven to be traitors! They have usurped too much power and are destroying this country deliberately! There is no more room, or time, for debate. This is a FACT cowards can’t handle. It will now be up to the American civilians to defend themselves and their property from fascist thugs. Not if, but when they come for you it will be up to you to defend yourselves and family. In fact, I suggest you do so! For if we cower now, we might as well give up and accept slavery. I’m NOT telling anyone to provocateur violence either! I’m not even telling you to protest, in fact that would be stupid too. What I am telling you to do is be prepared for the very worst! Be prepared to take action when “the line in the sand” is crossed! For that “line in the sand” will be crossed, so be prepared! Expect it. When (not if) they come for you, you’re family or you’re guns, give ’em lead! It is time for the good people in the government to stand up for the American people and organize a criminal investigation into those who wish us harm. The traitors working for this “New World Order” need to be arrested, put on trial and convicted for conspiracy to commit high treason against the United States. If they don’t want this country to fall into chaos then this is what must happen!
http://goo.gl/V7cRCV
http://goo.gl/21AebK
http://goo.gl/22Z9Vx
https://www.google.ee/search?client=opera&q="NOT+referring+to+Communist+China%2C+I’m+referring+to+new+communist+Amerika"&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=%22NOT+referring+to+Communist+China,+I%E2%80%99m+referring+to+new+communist+Amerika%22&filter=0
A government that would sell out its country and betray its people is a government full of traitors and cowards!” Has the government hit a new low, or has it already hit rock bottom? People of the United States should be concerned, very concerned. As more revelations and exposé(s) have proven, civilians are being robbed blind. Acts of mass fraud and high treason are now common everyday memes and the fact that noone is being prosecuted for these well documented crimes and conspiracies against the American public is nothing less than shocking. America is falling, and it is falling faster and harder every year. “The guerrilla economist” has been warning us that by the year 2017, the US, as we know it now, will be destroyed. I do believe this man is correct. The only thing this fascist government has been concerned about is how to relinquish the rest of our civil and human rights while we are facing great danger of epic proportions. In the 1950(s), the government would have been issuing red alerts and instructing people to protect themselves - today the world is upside down and government response is completely opposite. Just what the hell is going on? Well, government has hit rock bottom and in fact this government has already been overthrown. We no longer have a true government anymore, it has become a fascist dictatorship. Well the American people damn well better be prepared, those commies are here! I’m NOT referring to Communist China, I’m referring to new communist Amerika. These fascists; (our so-called) “leaders”; have proven to be traitors! They have usurped too much power and are destroying this country deliberately! There is no more room, or time, for debate. This is a FACT cowards can’t handle. It will now be up to the American civilians to defend themselves and their property from fascist thugs. Not if, but when they come for you it will be up to you to defend yourselves and family. In fact, I suggest you do so! For if we cower now, we might as well give up and accept slavery. I’m NOT telling anyone to provocateur violence either! I’m not even telling you to protest, in fact that would be stupid too. What I am telling you to do is be prepared for the very worst! Be prepared to take action when “the line in the sand” is crossed! For that “line in the sand” will be crossed, so be prepared! Expect it. When (not if) they come for you, you’re family or you’re guns, give ’em lead! It is time for the good people in the government to stand up for the American people and organize a criminal investigation into those who wish us harm. The traitors working for this “New World Order” need to be arrested, put on trial and convicted for conspiracy to commit high treason against the United States. If they don’t want this country to fall into chaos then this is what must happen!
http://goo.gl/V7cRCV
http://goo.gl/21AebK
http://goo.gl/22Z9Vx
https://www.google.ee/search?client=opera&q="NOT+referring+to+Communist+China%2C+I’m+referring+to+new+communist+Amerika"&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=%22NOT+referring+to+Communist+China,+I%E2%80%99m+referring+to+new+communist+Amerika%22&filter=0
http://goo.gl/V7cRCV
5 February 2015 19:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
What a surprise, there is something in the water... maybe... innit Katy ?
5 February 2015 19:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Of the files included the Anonymous Posts Mysterious Banker Death List contains a list of over 50 CEO's from Banks who have died under suspicious circumstances
5 February 2015 19:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Sony doesn't lock their doors, physically, so we worked with other staff with similar interests to get in. Im sorry I can't say more, safety for our team is important "
Warning, We will clearly show it to you at the very time and places “The Interview” be
shown, including the premiere, how bitter fate those who seek fun in terror should
be doomed to.
Soon all the world will see what an awful movie Sony Pictures Entertainment has
made.
The world will be full of fear.
Remember the 11th of September 2001.
We recommend you to keep yourself distant from the places at that time.
(If your house is nearby, you’d better leave.)
Whatever comes in the coming days is called by the greed of Sony Pictures
Entertainment.
All the world will denounce the SONY
http://xiphosresearch.com/A%20Sony%20Story.pdf
http://www.pagelamp.com/sony.com.au
“To the Guardians of Peace”
Removing Sony Pictures on earth is a very tiny work for our group which is a
worldwide organization. And what we have done so far is only a small part of our
further plan. It’s your false if you think this crisis will be over after some
time. All hope will leave you and Sony Pictures will collapse. This situation is
only due to Sony Pictures. Sony Pictures is responsible for whatever the result is.
Sony Pictures clings to what is good to nobody from the beginning. It’s silly to
expect in Sony Pictures to take off us. Sony Pictures makes only useless efforts.
One beside you can be our member.
Many things beyond imagination will happen at many places of the world. Our agents
find themselves act in necessary places. Please sign your name to object the false
of the company at the email address below if you don’t want to suffer damage. If
you don’t, not only you but your family will be in danger.
Nobody can prevent us, but the only way is to follow our demand. If you want to
prevent us, make your company behave wisely.
Anyone who loves peace can be our member.
Please tell your mind at the email address below if you share our intention.
Peace comes when you and I share one intention!
jack.nelson-63vrbu1[at]yop mail.com
You can download a part of Sony Pictures internal data the volume of which is tens
of Terabytes on the following addresses. These include many pieces of confidential
data.
marc.parker-8t52ebo@yop mail.com
emma.murphy-0ohbp3m1@yop mail.com
lisa.harris-cxkjch3@yop mail.com
john.murphy-7o2h3uh3@yop mail.com
axel.turner-ffqbv9c@yop mail.com
lisa.harris-ezd6e1j@yop mail.com
mike.morris-f2iyqki@yop mail.com
marc.parker-1ojn2dp2@yop mail.com
axel.turner-4oqbyjui@yop mail.com
rose.martin-boz2uaul@yop mail.com
rose.martin-0o7jacx4@yop mail.com
abc@spa mbog.com
lena@spa mbog.com
john@spa mbog.com
"We've got great damage by Sony Pictures. The compensation for it, monetary
compensation we want."
"Pay the damage, or Sony Pictures will be bombarded as a whole. You know us very
well. We never wait long. You'd better behave wisely"
We’ve already warned you, and this is just a beginning.
We continue till our request be met.
We’ve obtained all your internal data including your secrets and top secrets.
If you don’t obey us, we’ll release data shown below to the world.
Determine what will you do till November the 24th, 11:00 PM(GMT).
Post an email address and the following sentence on your twitter and facebook, and
we’ll contact the email address.
Thanks a lot to God’sApstls contributing your great effort to peace of the
world.
And even if you just try to seek out who we are, all of your data will be released
at once.
Hacked by #GOP
Warning:
We’ve already warned you, and this is just a beginning.
We continue till our request be met.
We’ve obtained all your internal data including your secrets and top secrets.
If you don’t obey us, we’ll release data shown below to the world.
Determine what will you do till November the 24th, 11:00 PM(GMT).
Warning, We will clearly show it to you at the very time and places “The Interview” be
shown, including the premiere, how bitter fate those who seek fun in terror should
be doomed to.
Soon all the world will see what an awful movie Sony Pictures Entertainment has
made.
The world will be full of fear.
Remember the 11th of September 2001.
We recommend you to keep yourself distant from the places at that time.
(If your house is nearby, you’d better leave.)
Whatever comes in the coming days is called by the greed of Sony Pictures
Entertainment.
All the world will denounce the SONY
http://xiphosresearch.com/A%20Sony%20Story.pdf
http://www.pagelamp.com/sony.com.au
“To the Guardians of Peace”
Removing Sony Pictures on earth is a very tiny work for our group which is a
worldwide organization. And what we have done so far is only a small part of our
further plan. It’s your false if you think this crisis will be over after some
time. All hope will leave you and Sony Pictures will collapse. This situation is
only due to Sony Pictures. Sony Pictures is responsible for whatever the result is.
Sony Pictures clings to what is good to nobody from the beginning. It’s silly to
expect in Sony Pictures to take off us. Sony Pictures makes only useless efforts.
One beside you can be our member.
Many things beyond imagination will happen at many places of the world. Our agents
find themselves act in necessary places. Please sign your name to object the false
of the company at the email address below if you don’t want to suffer damage. If
you don’t, not only you but your family will be in danger.
Nobody can prevent us, but the only way is to follow our demand. If you want to
prevent us, make your company behave wisely.
Anyone who loves peace can be our member.
Please tell your mind at the email address below if you share our intention.
Peace comes when you and I share one intention!
jack.nelson-63vrbu1[at]yop mail.com
You can download a part of Sony Pictures internal data the volume of which is tens
of Terabytes on the following addresses. These include many pieces of confidential
data.
marc.parker-8t52ebo@yop mail.com
emma.murphy-0ohbp3m1@yop mail.com
lisa.harris-cxkjch3@yop mail.com
john.murphy-7o2h3uh3@yop mail.com
axel.turner-ffqbv9c@yop mail.com
lisa.harris-ezd6e1j@yop mail.com
mike.morris-f2iyqki@yop mail.com
marc.parker-1ojn2dp2@yop mail.com
axel.turner-4oqbyjui@yop mail.com
rose.martin-boz2uaul@yop mail.com
rose.martin-0o7jacx4@yop mail.com
abc@spa mbog.com
lena@spa mbog.com
john@spa mbog.com
"We've got great damage by Sony Pictures. The compensation for it, monetary
compensation we want."
"Pay the damage, or Sony Pictures will be bombarded as a whole. You know us very
well. We never wait long. You'd better behave wisely"
We’ve already warned you, and this is just a beginning.
We continue till our request be met.
We’ve obtained all your internal data including your secrets and top secrets.
If you don’t obey us, we’ll release data shown below to the world.
Determine what will you do till November the 24th, 11:00 PM(GMT).
Post an email address and the following sentence on your twitter and facebook, and
we’ll contact the email address.
Thanks a lot to God’sApstls contributing your great effort to peace of the
world.
And even if you just try to seek out who we are, all of your data will be released
at once.
Hacked by #GOP
Warning:
We’ve already warned you, and this is just a beginning.
We continue till our request be met.
We’ve obtained all your internal data including your secrets and top secrets.
If you don’t obey us, we’ll release data shown below to the world.
Determine what will you do till November the 24th, 11:00 PM(GMT).
5 February 2015 19:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The files containing the list of data allegedly gleaned from Sony Entertainment’s network contain about a gigabyte of dumped text (638.4 and 397.8 megabytes, respectively). Included in the list:
PDF files that apparently contain the passports, visas, and other associated identity documents of cast and crew for various Sony productions, such as actors Jonah Hill, Cameron Diaz, and Angelina Jolie (plus a file called Emmerich, Roland Greencard.pdf).
Over 700 documents containing passwords, including spreadsheets and Word files titled “FTP passwords,”
“ResearchPasswords,"
“ACCOUNTING PASSWORDS,”
“Personal passwords,” and other files named for specific creative resource sites. There is also a file called
“CA Breach Notification for User Names and Passwords (MoFo).pdf,” which someone at Sony will likely be referring to shortly.
179 Outlook archival .pst mailboxes, including the mail folder of an executive at Sony Pictures Releasing Canada, an IT Audit Supervisor at Sony, as well as many “archive.pst” and “backup.pst” files.
Password protected documents—with their passwords in their names. (PASSWORD PALABRA SECRETA NISSAN.xlsx, PwC 2007 Report_PASSWORD_pwcemc60.pdf).
IT audit documents (PASSWORD EQUAL TO USER NAME.xls, ACCOUNTS WITHOUT PASSWORDS.xls).
Sensitive business documents including film budgets (“JR_Accrued Mktg Cost 0513 - Evil Dead.xls”) and contract documents (“Cameron Diaz - Pre-approved Medical Rider.doc”).
Personal credentials including private key files and 1Password database backups.
2014 November
http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/11/sony-pictures-hackers-release-list-of-stolen-corporate-files/
So what is the deal now?
PDF files that apparently contain the passports, visas, and other associated identity documents of cast and crew for various Sony productions, such as actors Jonah Hill, Cameron Diaz, and Angelina Jolie (plus a file called Emmerich, Roland Greencard.pdf).
Over 700 documents containing passwords, including spreadsheets and Word files titled “FTP passwords,”
“ResearchPasswords,"
“ACCOUNTING PASSWORDS,”
“Personal passwords,” and other files named for specific creative resource sites. There is also a file called
“CA Breach Notification for User Names and Passwords (MoFo).pdf,” which someone at Sony will likely be referring to shortly.
179 Outlook archival .pst mailboxes, including the mail folder of an executive at Sony Pictures Releasing Canada, an IT Audit Supervisor at Sony, as well as many “archive.pst” and “backup.pst” files.
Password protected documents—with their passwords in their names. (PASSWORD PALABRA SECRETA NISSAN.xlsx, PwC 2007 Report_PASSWORD_pwcemc60.pdf).
IT audit documents (PASSWORD EQUAL TO USER NAME.xls, ACCOUNTS WITHOUT PASSWORDS.xls).
Sensitive business documents including film budgets (“JR_Accrued Mktg Cost 0513 - Evil Dead.xls”) and contract documents (“Cameron Diaz - Pre-approved Medical Rider.doc”).
Personal credentials including private key files and 1Password database backups.
2014 November
http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/11/sony-pictures-hackers-release-list-of-stolen-corporate-files/
So what is the deal now?
http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/11/sony-pictures-hackers-release-list-of-stolen-corporate-files/
5 February 2015 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Since this is Sony Pictures it will come as no surprise that video files are also reported as being part of the hackers’ booty. Interestingly the first reports detailed pirated TV shows which may have been downloaded by Sony staff.
Adventure Time-2x04a-Power Animal.avi
Adventure Time Her Parents.avi
Adventure Time The Silent King.avi
Adventure Time-2x09b-Susan Strong.avi
Adventure Time-2x11a-Belly of the Beast.avi
Human.Planet.S01E05.720p.BluRay.x264-SHORTBREHD.mkv
Human.Planet.S01E02.720p.BluRay.x264-SHORTBREHD.mkv
Human.Planet.S01E06.720p.BluRay.x264-SHORTBREHD.mkv
Human.Planet.S01E03.720p.BluRay.x264-SHORTBREHD.mkv
Human.Planet.S01E04.720p.BluRay.x264-SHORTBREHD.mkv
Human.Planet.S01E01.720p.BluRay.x264-SHORTBREHD.mkv
Human.Planet.S01E07.720p.BluRay.x264-SHORTBREHD.mkv
But while Sony desperately tried to get its systems back online and figure out what had been taken, mid-week and within minutes of each other, DVD screener copies of four Sony movies began appearing online."
Finally, among the thousands of files taken from Sony there are other items of interest to piracy watchers. The files detailed below appear to relate to the automatic content recognition systems operated by anti-piracy company Audible Magic.
audible_magic_sftp_private_key.ppk
audible_magic_sftp_private_key.ppk
set_ssh-private-key-file.htm
audible_magic_sftp_private_key.ppk
private_and_private_key.txt
https://torrentfreak.com/sony-movies-leak-online-after-hack-attack-141129/ ;)
Adventure Time-2x04a-Power Animal.avi
Adventure Time Her Parents.avi
Adventure Time The Silent King.avi
Adventure Time-2x09b-Susan Strong.avi
Adventure Time-2x11a-Belly of the Beast.avi
Human.Planet.S01E05.720p.BluRay.x264-SHORTBREHD.mkv
Human.Planet.S01E02.720p.BluRay.x264-SHORTBREHD.mkv
Human.Planet.S01E06.720p.BluRay.x264-SHORTBREHD.mkv
Human.Planet.S01E03.720p.BluRay.x264-SHORTBREHD.mkv
Human.Planet.S01E04.720p.BluRay.x264-SHORTBREHD.mkv
Human.Planet.S01E01.720p.BluRay.x264-SHORTBREHD.mkv
Human.Planet.S01E07.720p.BluRay.x264-SHORTBREHD.mkv
But while Sony desperately tried to get its systems back online and figure out what had been taken, mid-week and within minutes of each other, DVD screener copies of four Sony movies began appearing online."
Finally, among the thousands of files taken from Sony there are other items of interest to piracy watchers. The files detailed below appear to relate to the automatic content recognition systems operated by anti-piracy company Audible Magic.
audible_magic_sftp_private_key.ppk
audible_magic_sftp_private_key.ppk
set_ssh-private-key-file.htm
audible_magic_sftp_private_key.ppk
private_and_private_key.txt
https://torrentfreak.com/sony-movies-leak-online-after-hack-attack-141129/ ;)
https://torrentfreak.com/sony-movies-leak-online-after-hack-attack-141129/
5 February 2015 18:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And all this hacking might sound to ordinary joe like bollocs anyway, where all the rest of data
okey, maybe was we think...but still good marketing, marketing machine not resting
okey, maybe was we think...but still good marketing, marketing machine not resting
5 February 2015 18:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Wau, tanks
5 February 2015 17:24
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
atheists are on prison anyway but they are blessed in a way that they not know it, so they can at times live more happy and better looking life then the ones who think they know religious life living
5 February 2015 17:10
Margus Meigo commented on Aivo Lill's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kui taevamaannat sööma hakkad siis sul lisaks lademetes ettekuulutustele ka tuleb igast muid arusaamisi kuidas siin maailmades liikuda selliste ettekuulutuste poole mida vaja ja kuidas millist kuulutust ära hoida või kaasa aidata...
Ainuke põhjus miks ajast ette, taha ja kõrvale näidatakse, on selle pärast, et selleks on põhjus. Kui sa midagi tegema ei peaks, siis pole ju asjal suurem mõte kui õhtuse filmi vaatamisel.4 February 2015 19:39
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Mul see ainult selle pärast oluline,et saaksin kindel olla teise mõistmises minu õiguse osas
aga muidu olen tagasihoidlik4 February 2015 19:17
Margus Meigo commented on Aivo Lill's post.
Group: Kristlased
Või, et pooled kogudused on valguses, siis me küll maailmas usklikute maade esireas, rõõm kuulda4 February 2015 19:16
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
a tampon?
4 February 2015 17:53
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
interesting thesis,
who is killed by ordinary butterfly?
who is killed by ordinary butterfly?
4 February 2015 17:51
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
Up to the day when You really want to meet and talk, or hug
4 February 2015 16:47
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
Nothing to do with scare, you have been insulting me in countles time, and told me personally, that i would not talk to you, then you keep talking (that is nice) andwhen i started to talk back you again told not to talk, so i told after last time you tell me to not write you that will only start to write back when you go and ask Nashriq that you want me to talk with you as if you not go then that means for me you not REALLY want to talk, in understanding, in good humility but in argument only, so i have no interest to spend my energy for that,
I have not read any of what you sendin email box but will do it some day.
When i feel like it.
When you tell man to do something and then man tels he does something, then there would be strange if that is not happening.
And why this public show here? Not sure, what is the purpose, you more polite in public maybe thats why am only answer.
BUt i do not really need to, even thought i think You are nice looking smart acting girl in successful rise of active life
You did not even want to meet me and prohibit me to talk to yu and meet, many many times, your word is important, so be it.
Up to the day when You really want to meet and talk, or hug
I have not read any of what you sendin email box but will do it some day.
When i feel like it.
When you tell man to do something and then man tels he does something, then there would be strange if that is not happening.
And why this public show here? Not sure, what is the purpose, you more polite in public maybe thats why am only answer.
BUt i do not really need to, even thought i think You are nice looking smart acting girl in successful rise of active life
You did not even want to meet me and prohibit me to talk to yu and meet, many many times, your word is important, so be it.
Up to the day when You really want to meet and talk, or hug
4 February 2015 16:47
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
.
"Regardless of your sexual identity, your character tends to be more masculine,
The energy you own is also about your sexuality which brings you the risk of becoming a slave to your desires "
Happens
"Regardless of your sexual identity, your character tends to be more masculine,
The energy you own is also about your sexuality which brings you the risk of becoming a slave to your desires "
Happens
4 February 2015 16:14
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
rant rant rant
No need to worry about it, about that our minds are made up, anyone who argues against wed does not know what they talk about specially if they lack shamanic knowledge or divine reveleation about this plants , what they clearly lack,
will not start to look thse videos now but will use them alter on my work to preparte to teach them what it is, according to statements they use in video
Just know ,there is nothing to argue about by people who now know,
any one can make up stroryes about against something theyhave no proof,
there is HUGE amount of proof of the benafit, on rightful use specially, and zere reliable proof from any relgion or scientist against cannabis, zero, newer, ever produced anything that can be called reliable as it is joke what they produce, be on silly. Really. it is a final, not ever will that be chnaged as that is how God made Nature, ok ?
If there was a mistake in nature, then it is these kind of people who keep spreading propacanda against nature.
Only difference there is from some zen masters and scinetist ,that they assume people abuse it, that is rarely if people are learned what it is, and it should be learned in early school, some people need a lot that medicine, some people life depens on it, (actually a lot of peoples) and some people need only few times in life and some special strain (there is hundreds of strains, but in raw way 2 seperate ones, one for energy other for relaxin, if we look it outside Spirit and actual beanfits what it is about)
By defination, human can not be a smart if they are against a Bible, against a Nature, a Women or against a psychdellics, this is my new "Normal Meter" i use, and will treat anyone who disagrees as someone who needs mental health.
So when i look these videos, i can only see what one or another crazy person has invented about "weed"
Most of them talking also about burning, i talking specialy about eating. As it was planned most of all.
There can not be a smart person against a weed, this is the base of the argument, there can not be knowladeble person against cannabis, simple as that. even if they are pope or Hawkins, as this is how easy it is and how it will be and has always been, we will rebuke all the bad wishing spirits from this realaties who keep abusing these plants and who keep being against nature, simple as that.
this topic also, is finished, there is nothing to talk about it,as if you would be interested to know about plants you would be inevetigating and study and experience after you get proof from god she is good.
And then you will really know more)
Again, not persnal, as it is not YOU who tels these things but a spirit inside you that has been programmed, have seen them hundreds in last 10 years, they all really similar and not evolving with anarguments and logic
So yes, cannabis topic is finished, and i am clad you agree that this plant is froma god and is good for us, and that we should start to aprishiate that,
and you will, for sure, as everyone is who is by Nature good.
Roger
No need to worry about it, about that our minds are made up, anyone who argues against wed does not know what they talk about specially if they lack shamanic knowledge or divine reveleation about this plants , what they clearly lack,
will not start to look thse videos now but will use them alter on my work to preparte to teach them what it is, according to statements they use in video
Just know ,there is nothing to argue about by people who now know,
any one can make up stroryes about against something theyhave no proof,
there is HUGE amount of proof of the benafit, on rightful use specially, and zere reliable proof from any relgion or scientist against cannabis, zero, newer, ever produced anything that can be called reliable as it is joke what they produce, be on silly. Really. it is a final, not ever will that be chnaged as that is how God made Nature, ok ?
If there was a mistake in nature, then it is these kind of people who keep spreading propacanda against nature.
Only difference there is from some zen masters and scinetist ,that they assume people abuse it, that is rarely if people are learned what it is, and it should be learned in early school, some people need a lot that medicine, some people life depens on it, (actually a lot of peoples) and some people need only few times in life and some special strain (there is hundreds of strains, but in raw way 2 seperate ones, one for energy other for relaxin, if we look it outside Spirit and actual beanfits what it is about)
By defination, human can not be a smart if they are against a Bible, against a Nature, a Women or against a psychdellics, this is my new "Normal Meter" i use, and will treat anyone who disagrees as someone who needs mental health.
So when i look these videos, i can only see what one or another crazy person has invented about "weed"
Most of them talking also about burning, i talking specialy about eating. As it was planned most of all.
There can not be a smart person against a weed, this is the base of the argument, there can not be knowladeble person against cannabis, simple as that. even if they are pope or Hawkins, as this is how easy it is and how it will be and has always been, we will rebuke all the bad wishing spirits from this realaties who keep abusing these plants and who keep being against nature, simple as that.
this topic also, is finished, there is nothing to talk about it,as if you would be interested to know about plants you would be inevetigating and study and experience after you get proof from god she is good.
And then you will really know more)
Again, not persnal, as it is not YOU who tels these things but a spirit inside you that has been programmed, have seen them hundreds in last 10 years, they all really similar and not evolving with anarguments and logic
So yes, cannabis topic is finished, and i am clad you agree that this plant is froma god and is good for us, and that we should start to aprishiate that,
and you will, for sure, as everyone is who is by Nature good.
Roger
4 February 2015 15:38
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
Surah 82:17-19
Revelation 21:4-5,
i am finished now,
Roger,
With Love
Revelation 21:4-5,
i am finished now,
Roger,
With Love
4 February 2015 15:06
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
You do know who is Ibn Ishaq right ?
From Islamaqa "By now, we can conclude that Ibn Ishaq is the main source of our knowledge about the Prophet as all later works relied on the narrations contained in his book which survives only in the recension of Ibn Hisham"
Thank You!
and sorry of my arogance arguing with you like a boy but this spirit that has put inside you, is acting out from you as a male, that i feel..
but will look now up some Mayan Calendar truths about you and then maybe something more reveals of the bahvor.
And yes, take not personally as Your peson can not be touched by anything that looks remotelly insulted on it when you walk in justice.
I am knowing my ignorance, but intention is good, always.
What i say is not changed, as it is waht it is and it is IT, not even alive. jet.
(inportant to know if before or after sunrise: http://www.mymayansign.com/mayaburcum?birthday=16&birthmonth=5&birthyear=1983&sun=no)
Surah 82:17-19
Revelation 21:4-5,
i am finished now,
Roger,
With Love
From Islamaqa "By now, we can conclude that Ibn Ishaq is the main source of our knowledge about the Prophet as all later works relied on the narrations contained in his book which survives only in the recension of Ibn Hisham"
Thank You!
and sorry of my arogance arguing with you like a boy but this spirit that has put inside you, is acting out from you as a male, that i feel..
but will look now up some Mayan Calendar truths about you and then maybe something more reveals of the bahvor.
And yes, take not personally as Your peson can not be touched by anything that looks remotelly insulted on it when you walk in justice.
I am knowing my ignorance, but intention is good, always.
What i say is not changed, as it is waht it is and it is IT, not even alive. jet.
(inportant to know if before or after sunrise: http://www.mymayansign.com/mayaburcum?birthday=16&birthmonth=5&birthyear=1983&sun=no)
Surah 82:17-19
Revelation 21:4-5,
i am finished now,
Roger,
With Love
http://www.mymayansign.com/mayaburcum?birthday=16&birthmonth=5&birthyear=1983&sun=no
4 February 2015 15:05
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
Yes, that it is one of the MOST releiable source in a internet and world that exist from common knowladge, it is a fact,
they was testing really High topics (not a magic mushroom way high but like biology, astrology, medicine) the wikipedia pages and most respected books and discovered,that in awarage, the Wikipedia is acurate or Abowe Accurate.
And if you know how wikipedia works - that IF You got a proof you can add it there, not just random text, you can try if you want, see what hapens. SO go and post these videos there andremove "falce" information if you think what Ibn Ishaq say is wrong,.
I am member of wikipedia also bdw, from Estonia branch, specially idologically.
not interested about these stones, as i do hope it is at least a symbol of vagina, that it is, as any realistic gods that has been here can be traced back to Sumerian times.
And they know about Old God.
Not really interested to look these vagina stones right now, as i already know, that supreme greator is Female in essence
it is easy, every kid knows it, literally
Try to say it some other way next time you are inside mother
they was testing really High topics (not a magic mushroom way high but like biology, astrology, medicine) the wikipedia pages and most respected books and discovered,that in awarage, the Wikipedia is acurate or Abowe Accurate.
And if you know how wikipedia works - that IF You got a proof you can add it there, not just random text, you can try if you want, see what hapens. SO go and post these videos there andremove "falce" information if you think what Ibn Ishaq say is wrong,.
I am member of wikipedia also bdw, from Estonia branch, specially idologically.
not interested about these stones, as i do hope it is at least a symbol of vagina, that it is, as any realistic gods that has been here can be traced back to Sumerian times.
And they know about Old God.
Not really interested to look these vagina stones right now, as i already know, that supreme greator is Female in essence
it is easy, every kid knows it, literally
Try to say it some other way next time you are inside mother
4 February 2015 14:59
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
Yeah, like youtube videos made by students maybe ?
Tell me if YOU know better then Ibn Ishaq
If yo uso smart, go and fix that parts in wikipedia. and put some relable information there,
this was translated from Oxward Uniwesity.. so yeah, maybe not high enought
Tell me if YOU know better then Ibn Ishaq
If yo uso smart, go and fix that parts in wikipedia. and put some relable information there,
this was translated from Oxward Uniwesity.. so yeah, maybe not high enought
4 February 2015 14:49
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Ishaq
Ibn Ishaq collected oral traditions that formed the basis of an important biography of the Islamic prophet Muhammad.
Born 85 AH/704 Ad
So he should know
Ibn Ishaq collected oral traditions that formed the basis of an important biography of the Islamic prophet Muhammad.
Born 85 AH/704 Ad
So he should know
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Ishaq
4 February 2015 14:46
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
"Muslim pilgrims jostle for a chance to kiss the Black Stone; if they are unable to kiss the stone because of the crowds, they can point towards the stone on each circuit with their right hand. In each complete circuit a person says "In the name of God, God is Great, God is Great, God is Great and praise be to God". Once people have kissed the stone a guard stands ready to push them away."
4 February 2015 14:45
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
i di not waht ? I just telling, you not really behaving a lady mater and there is loads of people win UK and western world who are SO prepared for these kind of simple things that they will fire you up.. then use mind maniulation to get you make up with then with small drink by using their sharm, then they will use dep spychology to break trhought from your barier and a lie if needed and ... well.. then they will intreduce you to sin, and is easy to do for people who know how to use and manipulate these arias in women that are be on supperficial religious beliefs.
As if you really would know beliving in calm way as you would know that we talking about Supreme oranization of people crowers, then you would not need to react like that, this is my point that i bring out from you.
I am on the edge not just saving islam but other religions also, and much more so for me there is not a need to feel to get conserned about these hings you send me that i have looked in to long years ago.
the fact is people making sin who is putting their belief in to a stone, not realazing all greatin is devine, specially nature, more.
If they would be more accepting to pray to moon (that they are originally from) and to female deietyes openly (as the black rock is a old pagan female deiety, more near to the all same old gods that was there then anything else documents say)... then i would be soft on it, but to start to protect some fragemnts of stones, you make discrase to islam and making it look so small and silly,.
much bigger then that, if you would eat these herms i talk about, you would know
(and this is not talk to "you" personally, but to people who think like that, as "you" i do not really need to talk this to, as You are Women ad You will be lead to know all you need rgardles of your beliefs in here, you also will be forgiven all, in fact, you already have)
As if you really would know beliving in calm way as you would know that we talking about Supreme oranization of people crowers, then you would not need to react like that, this is my point that i bring out from you.
I am on the edge not just saving islam but other religions also, and much more so for me there is not a need to feel to get conserned about these hings you send me that i have looked in to long years ago.
the fact is people making sin who is putting their belief in to a stone, not realazing all greatin is devine, specially nature, more.
If they would be more accepting to pray to moon (that they are originally from) and to female deietyes openly (as the black rock is a old pagan female deiety, more near to the all same old gods that was there then anything else documents say)... then i would be soft on it, but to start to protect some fragemnts of stones, you make discrase to islam and making it look so small and silly,.
much bigger then that, if you would eat these herms i talk about, you would know
(and this is not talk to "you" personally, but to people who think like that, as "you" i do not really need to talk this to, as You are Women ad You will be lead to know all you need rgardles of your beliefs in here, you also will be forgiven all, in fact, you already have)
4 February 2015 14:45
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
"According to Ibn Ishaq, an early biographer of Muhammad, the Ka'aba was itself addressed as a female deity, three generations before the advent of Islam. The Semitic cultures of the Middle East had a tradition of using unusual stones to mark places of worship, a phenomenon which is reflected in the Hebrew Bible as well as the Qur'an, although bowing to or kissing such sacred objects is repeatedly described in the Tenach as idolatrous and was the subject of prophetic rebuke. Some writers remark on the apparent similarity of the Black Stone and its frame to the external female genitalia, and ascribe this to its earlier association with fertility rites"
and yes, it does look like that, and so in a way it is great joke by god to get all these Greek-Roman mindset masculine man to kiss a vagina
t oteach them , from where they come form,
So in that way, as i tld always, god has reason.. it is great, yes.
BUt something we can evolve , maybe starting to respect and kis our own women vagina more
with full godly submission and surrender and respect, as we, man should
and yes, it does look like that, and so in a way it is great joke by god to get all these Greek-Roman mindset masculine man to kiss a vagina
t oteach them , from where they come form,
So in that way, as i tld always, god has reason.. it is great, yes.
BUt something we can evolve , maybe starting to respect and kis our own women vagina more
with full godly submission and surrender and respect, as we, man should
4 February 2015 14:45
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
No i did not Isa as the "atheist vs debate" you give me, that i look to the end, ower half an hour was just SO sad, for these people who was in religious side, as they made look religion bad (my internet conenction is limited and cant spend on it to entertaimet, even not looking things for my self)
Isa "bought of you" is meaning, You and Me
This is my point, you missing basic christian teachings, that you need if you want to handle these kind of conversations, i would want to tak with you about much deeper things then some silly stones and science arguments
Isa "bought of you" is meaning, You and Me
This is my point, you missing basic christian teachings, that you need if you want to handle these kind of conversations, i would want to tak with you about much deeper things then some silly stones and science arguments
4 February 2015 14:28
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
and if someone is going to kiss a black stone .. seriouslly.. can you not see that it is NOT ALLOWED BY ALAH??
Give me a spots from Koran that say you are alowed to warship a any spaceship, aliens, comets, artifacts from another world, or anything like that more then trees?
You know, trees at least are alive and they was before here then that rock
Give me a spots from Koran that say you are alowed to warship a any spaceship, aliens, comets, artifacts from another world, or anything like that more then trees?
You know, trees at least are alive and they was before here then that rock
4 February 2015 14:24
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
If aliens send a stone in here, or who ever, it does NOT matter really, there is no miracles in belivers eyes there is just natural things, if someone is telling mountain to go and walk way, and mountain is doing that, this is NOT A MIRACLE it is a normal ordinary thing how is working belief and interaction between the greators
4 February 2015 14:22
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
You missing a points in A BIG scale dear, if you want to argue in white people manner, with their tools, not from a heart, then you make yourself look like someone who is insult to islam with these arguments. Really.
It is for your benafit, as these people in video, did YOU NOT notice, how deeply "the atheists" had fun with them as they was looked as silly silly people not some one who is wise about islam?
And beocuse they did not use bible knowledge, they made them self look on non belivers eyes as they are,when they get older, they will learn
It is for your benafit, as these people in video, did YOU NOT notice, how deeply "the atheists" had fun with them as they was looked as silly silly people not some one who is wise about islam?
And beocuse they did not use bible knowledge, they made them self look on non belivers eyes as they are,when they get older, they will learn
4 February 2015 14:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
4 February 2015 12:26
Margus Meigo commented on Kohila Pikk's post.
Group: Punk pole punane
This picture IS from the actual "Left side"
See käitumine ja pilt on tegelikult vasakpoolsete vastikute oma mitte paremate parempoolsete4 February 2015 12:18
Margus Meigo commented on Kohila Pikk's post.
Group: Punk pole punane
Yess!
http://y.delfi.ee/norm/117067/5718053_VdwakI.jpeghttp://y.delfi.ee/norm/117067/5718053_VdwakI.jpeg
4 February 2015 12:16
Margus Meigo commented on Simo Savioja's post.
Group: Punk pole punane
Vinge koduleht muidu, kiitus autorile, kuid jah.. suurele osale kirjandusele tuleks ka usu põhine selge kirjeldus veel kõrvale panna asjast mida on seletatud ja miks just sedasi.
Nagu me teame, suur punt nõuka vastaseid olid ka ise vastuluure ja nõuka suurimad esindajad, et siis valesi ja lapselike, madalamiad nõuka vastaseid ideid teha populaarseks, et päris kurjus ilmsiks ei tuleks.4 February 2015 12:13
Margus Meigo commented on Simo Savioja's post.
Group: Punk pole punane
Juutidel on, oli iseseisev põllumajandus see aga Rooma, Kapitalistide ja Kommunistide meelsetele (kõik sama punt) ei meeldinud, sest ei lähe orjanduse plaaniga kokku.
Saksamaa löök üle maailmse orjandusliku kehtestamise katkestamiseks, oli tegelikult päris juutide poolne, kuid noh siis tulid need igast Mustade Päikeste kultused ja otsesed teispoolsuse tegelased ja teeemad muu maailmade tehnoloogiad ja..
eks küll see aeg kui vaja me veel lugeda saame piibli taolisest raamatust, mis tegelikult juhtus4 February 2015 11:52
Margus Meigo commented on Simo Savioja's post.
Group: Punk pole punane
Lühidalt, protestantide point on, et tegusi pole vaja ainult usu ja saad kõik andeks kui palvetad, tee mida iganes tahad maapeal, ei pidavat oluline olema (ehk siis päris usklike silmis kõige saatanlikum ja kahepalgleiseim käitumine mis olla saab).
Eks tulemus näha ka
(Õige usklikutel,maausklikel, päris hippidel, nazariitidel, päris moslemitel jms aga arusaam, et Su teod eelkõige peavad Su armastust ja usku peegeldama, sest point pole ainult inimesi uskuma saada, et nad läbi usu mida iganes saavad parandatud pundis - seda nagunii vaid arusaama, et ise pead maailma korda tegema, mitte ei pea Jumal sul tagumikku pühkimas käima pidevalt uputamas ja päästmas, vaid Täiskasvanuks tuleb areneda)
(koos kõikide taime tarkuste ja maagia oskustega, mis käivad arenguga kaasas kui elementaarne tarkus pere armastuse osas on olemas.. muidu pole vundamenti. Umbes nagu kui oma kodu ei armasta ega siis Sind külas ka tõsiseltvõetavana ei võeta, sama ka välismaal reisides, Eestlastel vaja kõrvataha panna.. eriti kui veel mõni muulane teab mis eesti tegelikult on.. ja siis kantakse kohe vaikselt maha, et täis lammas... samamoodi ka usklikute ringkonnas, sõnades ei ole sobilik (ega mõtet node arust) isegi väljendada asju nende suunas, kes elementaarsetest nurgakividest aru ei saa.. neid vaadatakse kui hullumaja patsiente ja neid kes ravil ju ka pole sobilik torkima hakata ja veel vähem nendega vaidlema.
(selles osas ma vaidlen vastu, arvan.. et korra tuleb vähemalt igale ühele öelda, kuidas õigesti on)4 February 2015 11:37
Margus Meigo commented on Simo Savioja's post.
Group: Punk pole punane
Muidugi nii haiget inimest usklikuna ennast teesklevana olevat kui Martin Luther on raske leida, samas pundis Greeka-Rooma pederastide ja Staaliniga.
Otsene tumeda maailma esindaja oma juudi vastase plämaga, sest TEMAl pold õigus nii lammas olla, et mitte aru saada, kuidas TEGELIKULT asjad käivad ja et juudi vastasus on Homo Roomlastel selle pärast, et juudid avaliku koolisüsteemi vastu, nad ei usu usu liidritesse, suur riigi juhtidesse, ega ka taevasse ja põrgusse muud moodi kui Maa inimesele kohane (et on see mis on ja mida teed ja tuleb see lisaks, mida väärid kuid kohe kindlasti tuleb see mida ise teed) ... kuid KÕIGE enam selle pärast, et juudid, ÕIGED juudid on emajärgsed, materiahaatlkiud (neid kõvasti üle 10 ne gruppi ja mõned sama palju juudid kui protestantlikud Õige Usu ja Vatikani silmes usklikud)
Me ei tohiks kunagi selle küüsi langeda, et asume promoma neid kes on ilmselgeltkurjuse levitamisega oma sõnades tegelenud
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html ("Sex is womens right not mans")
Kommunistid,viisnurgad, pentagrammid on ja alati jäänud ühed suurimaks Juudide tegelikuks vastaseks,
Eelkõige muidugi Vanad Eestlased, siin maakeral ühed kodusemad ja Kõik ajuterved Vana-Eestlased said aru eranditult, (lisaks teiste jumalate austamisele) et Vana Jumal Onhttp://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
4 February 2015 11:34
Margus Meigo commented on Simo Savioja's post.
Group: Punk pole punane
nõuka ajal üle 50 rahva siin pool mandrit pühiti minema...
kuid jah, kui eestlased usklikult seeni sööma ei hakka ja loodusele vastu põksivad siin ülbelt siis siin tõesti, just tõesti..
...ei saada nagu aru mis Greeka-Rooma plaanid juba ammu olnud on.. ega need siis muutunud pole4 February 2015 11:25
Margus Meigo commented on Simo Savioja's post.
Group: Punk pole punane
Kuigi noh, ega see USA sõduritel samamoodi viisnurgad peal... ja nad neid väikseid riike koos pigistanud nagu mäda vistrike, nad teavad, et iga asja jaoks on ravim... eesti vastu kasutati meie rahva uhkust pannes see tagurpidi ja pannes meid enda kodumaa suhtes vastupidi tundma, tehes seda võrdseks teiste maadega kes ammu hingetud ja siis matemaatiliselt tõestati veel kui palju madalam ja vähem tootlikum me oleme ja mida kõike veel
Aru saamata, mida ma veel üle 100 aasta tagasi tehtud saime..4 February 2015 11:21
Margus Meigo commented on Simo Savioja's post.
Group: Punk pole punane
Pole ime, et inglismaa kõik hundid maha nottis4 February 2015 11:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Kristelle Karu's post.
Group: Sulle-kes sa kõnnid vaimsel teerajal ja vajad teekaaslast, hingesugulast...
i know what she weels, you would also if you would live with me4 February 2015 00:48
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
couchsurfereid ka on
3 February 2015 23:24
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
Jeee kas tahad annan tuttavate kontakte, nad väga head, nii Cape Down ligidalt kui siit ja sealt
sotsiaal keskuste juhid jms hosting perekonnad
sotsiaal keskuste juhid jms hosting perekonnad
3 February 2015 23:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
and these organisations.. all have five stars on them center... so these beings insade human body can just laught in their face and tell to jack off as they not know who is their boss...3 February 2015 22:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
This hapens if people who are not religius are allowed to work in secret service or other positions... as they would not know .. that these kind of people.. who have side of that.. is EXTREMELY HIGH RISK of being not a human at all, so they can not work for human benafit if they do like that... so their politics.... and aims.. are in another dimension..
they have to be eliminated nice ways.. .. and kep everyone next 50 years on monitor who was in contact of similar friend lists..
these are actually serius things.. but what can you expect from investigators and protectors who are religiously blind, so they think it is just ordinary disease or something psychological..
much deeper then that.. .way much deeper3 February 2015 22:01
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's link.
Our moon ?
3 February 2015 21:47
Margus Meigo commented on Petya Barzilska's link.
"Greek finance minister Yanis Varoufakis meeting British chancellor George Osborne in a mauve shirt and ‘the sort of leather coat Putin might wear on a bear hunt’. "
there is something seriouslly wrong in world, if infinance minister meeting you have to point ot that one is wearing jeans
there is something seriouslly wrong in world, if infinance minister meeting you have to point ot that one is wearing jeans
3 February 2015 21:40
Margus Meigo commented on Petya Barzilska's link.
IN fact, arent the most common demons in similar profile usually ?
3 February 2015 21:38
Margus Meigo commented on Petya Barzilska's link.
good eyes
3 February 2015 20:12
Margus Meigo commented on Petya Barzilska's link.
neck
3 February 2015 19:49
Margus Meigo commented on Petya Barzilska's link.
Miracle how normal anyone can look, almoust, if they take rope, tie away around the nect
3 February 2015 19:49
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Altau's link.
Awesame!
Is Dugins Geopolitics, New Fourt Way Testament? Or something? Sounds interesting! (will read in later (probabaly not,jet))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Way
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
Is Dugins Geopolitics, New Fourt Way Testament? Or something? Sounds interesting! (will read in later (probabaly not,jet))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Way
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Way
3 February 2015 19:48
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's link.
True true
Kuid eks ta sutsu nii ole... et kui Krist tagasi tuleb siis ta hüüab.. "Yo bitces..." ja kirikud võtavad ritta
Kuid eks ta sutsu nii ole... et kui Krist tagasi tuleb siis ta hüüab.. "Yo bitces..." ja kirikud võtavad ritta
3 February 2015 16:44
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's link.
as long it is in accodance with bible you know :p
3 February 2015 15:55
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
Side efect of cannabis might be, for some, that they run naked around in a street and scraming from a Joy " I a m a Jeeeesssuus, thank Lord! "
(and old indian women says with little excitement "We know.. We know..")
(and old indian women says with little excitement "We know.. We know..")
3 February 2015 15:46
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
Side effects ? We talking about MIND medicine
that has almoust no organic effects
side effects are more the trouble of toxins
that has almoust no organic effects
side effects are more the trouble of toxins
3 February 2015 15:45
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
It is more easy to get addicted to TV and caffe
3 February 2015 15:44
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
criteria for establishing that a drug is hallucinogenic are as follows:[1]
in proportion to other effects, changes in thought, perception, and mood should predominate;
intellectual or memory impairment should be minimal;
stupor, narcosis, or excessive stimulation should not be an integral effect;
autonomic nervous system side effects should be minimal; and
addictive craving should be absent.
in proportion to other effects, changes in thought, perception, and mood should predominate;
intellectual or memory impairment should be minimal;
stupor, narcosis, or excessive stimulation should not be an integral effect;
autonomic nervous system side effects should be minimal; and
addictive craving should be absent.
3 February 2015 15:43
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
sigarettes are one of the whorst, and alcohol, specially in combination.. so if it would be about people health, or worry.. then they would deal with it
and yes, as She told.. cannabis and magic mushrooms are one of the MOST effisicant medicine for drug addiction and healing,besides religion,
and yes, as She told.. cannabis and magic mushrooms are one of the MOST effisicant medicine for drug addiction and healing,besides religion,
3 February 2015 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
peopel do not know what is drug, they still keep pharmacy shops open right ?
3 February 2015 15:39
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
Turkish Muslems bring me on one European Union project a cannabis... told that anyone who knows Islamproper knows, that this Plant is from Allah for us to help, as Allah demans us to get smarter, and this plant is making us smarter, so it is a comandment
3 February 2015 15:38
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
you see... but adultary and alcohol, or sigaret is no death sentence ?
3 February 2015 15:37
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
as some plants by God are made, safer then safe... but people are suspicious if something is "to good"
3 February 2015 15:36
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
yes but cannabis?
3 February 2015 15:35
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
If there a known human who is alergic to cannabis ?
3 February 2015 15:34
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
it will fix most issues u have
3 February 2015 15:31
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
Jup.. even if you take 5000 times of "owerdose" ...
I once eated 5 grams of high grade hassish boiling it in socolate.. 1/100 th of was more then suffisiant.. no one would be easily alive if 100 times owerdose ofalcohol
There was not "illegal drug dealers" before they made it illegal, it has been here as one of the oldest plants that human species have ben using on diferent generations, literally, there is few plants in earth that we know has been used longer then cannabis .
there was no illegal trade of it
But to cut of humans from the nature, and self managment, they needed to get us away from a plants that keep us smart, it was impossible to do if people consume wisdom plants and can make out clothing and near eveything for free.
So they banned also even indrustial Hemp... can you imagine..
I once eated 5 grams of high grade hassish boiling it in socolate.. 1/100 th of was more then suffisiant.. no one would be easily alive if 100 times owerdose ofalcohol
There was not "illegal drug dealers" before they made it illegal, it has been here as one of the oldest plants that human species have ben using on diferent generations, literally, there is few plants in earth that we know has been used longer then cannabis .
there was no illegal trade of it
But to cut of humans from the nature, and self managment, they needed to get us away from a plants that keep us smart, it was impossible to do if people consume wisdom plants and can make out clothing and near eveything for free.
So they banned also even indrustial Hemp... can you imagine..
3 February 2015 15:31
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
they are only able to doit "illegaly" becouse it is made illegal
if it would be legal, then humans them self would be able to regulate the spirits in away that is needed, with out silly politicians with tie aroundthe nect running around with legislations about things they have no idea
if it would be legal, then humans them self would be able to regulate the spirits in away that is needed, with out silly politicians with tie aroundthe nect running around with legislations about things they have no idea
3 February 2015 15:24
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
cocaine one should only use from leafs, not the powder in to nouse
3 February 2015 15:22
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
(not telling you are, just telling, this thought is from them)
3 February 2015 15:22
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
This is fassist thinking Isa... communist fassist alien thinking..to prison planet and human and women
3 February 2015 15:22
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
How can i , i am not consuming cannabis right now, one must be on the cannabis to really understand... from books.. it is like reading matematical chemical reactions about orgasms... not really benafitial for the point
3 February 2015 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
and nature
(oh they did already)
(oh they did already)
3 February 2015 15:20
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
and women
3 February 2015 15:20
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
then they should ban money also
3 February 2015 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
manna is metaphore in estonia, from god perhaps.. so we would remeber... as in soviet ime i think only people like Leni was alowed to eat magic mushrooms .. and he also did it academically.. not like Rasputin.. and you can see..
3 February 2015 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
Yes cannabis is for that and many thing, it is a Princess in a way come to earth, before Aztec times to help out humanty.
And highest healing this plant for clean hearted ones can do, is making Your brain smart , calm enought, that one can heal anyhting that is neded, or get you to another plants or people that is needed
And highest healing this plant for clean hearted ones can do, is making Your brain smart , calm enought, that one can heal anyhting that is neded, or get you to another plants or people that is needed
3 February 2015 15:18
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
How to make people less arogant about manna ?
3 February 2015 15:16
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
I hope so also . )
3 February 2015 15:15
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
thats why they call cannabis "poor mans heaven" as it is.. suffis-iant for ordinary man
as you can tune in to another layers of heaven highways
as you can tune in to another layers of heaven highways
3 February 2015 15:15
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
It does not make you "loose time" but tune your brain so you can precive time in more ways, as God inteeded also,
This link is just about one of the project we was making in Saaremaa, but just the slogan is showing the mind set of we working on also, in a good way... before others do that.. so they do not have to be punished by elimination by natural selection..
This link is just about one of the project we was making in Saaremaa, but just the slogan is showing the mind set of we working on also, in a good way... before others do that.. so they do not have to be punished by elimination by natural selection..
3 February 2015 15:13
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
Nu ma oma laia haardega singapuri herbalisti oma usutegudes korrale kutsusin ... tead, küll, euroopa liidu mõttemaailm "One World - Or World"
http://europa.eu/youth/vp/organisation/949339680_en et kotatsioonile weel otsa lisada piparmünti
http://europa.eu/youth/vp/organisation/949339680_en et kotatsioonile weel otsa lisada piparmünti
http://europa.eu/youth/vp/organisation/949339680_en
3 February 2015 15:08
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
:p
3 February 2015 15:05
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
and if Phaedra Sinatra Manna is "to psilocybiny"
THen
"white like coriander seed in color"
"a fine, flake-like thing" like the frost on the ground.
Exodus 16:1-36
Numbers 11:1-9
we can Eat Earth Manna, if Sky Manna is to much..just .. for humorous note, we make poridge out of it as well, here we go:
https://www.google.ee/search?q=manna-pudru+OR+manna-puder&num=100&newwindow=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=bsfQVLn8NMOxUda8gIgP&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1142&bih=658
THen
"white like coriander seed in color"
"a fine, flake-like thing" like the frost on the ground.
Exodus 16:1-36
Numbers 11:1-9
we can Eat Earth Manna, if Sky Manna is to much..just .. for humorous note, we make poridge out of it as well, here we go:
https://www.google.ee/search?q=manna-pudru+OR+manna-puder&num=100&newwindow=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=bsfQVLn8NMOxUda8gIgP&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1142&bih=658
https://www.google.ee/search?q=manna-pudru+OR+manna-puder&num=100&newwindow=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=bsfQVLn8NMOxUda8gIgP&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1142&bih=658
3 February 2015 15:04
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
manna is normal food in Estonia, all kids know it . )
3 February 2015 14:56
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
as it is most effisicant and final solution, as this is from where we started to count time, and these silly small priests who thinked, the can controlthe language or time and direction to the end, had no idea how big is that highway, thats why they was allowed to do waht they do.. even give them ability to stay alive more by transfering them in to another people body and mind ... for a reason, that they would see what they are on Read One eyes and
3 February 2015 14:56
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
thank you for briging that up, everyone who knows what it means knows, as anyone who not know what is a Bible besides some cossip will have not have a lot of benafit of that, sometimes maybe even a harm in spirit world
3 February 2015 14:53
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
cleaner (+ leaner.. as plant spirits are higher and will share you a knowladge if needed, when you eat and meitate on what you eat, where i come from.. and yes, i feel for a plants also i eat but being thankful for them also)
3 February 2015 14:51
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
animal protein isa myth, it is not needed at all. As only protein that is in animal come from plants and you can get it much leaner from the plants direcly, as animal did.
3 February 2015 14:49
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
Actualy debate is finished,
Noreally wanting, just Spirit had a need to give that, to your country : )
Roger
Noreally wanting, just Spirit had a need to give that, to your country : )
Roger
3 February 2015 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
arrogants in incalculatable of many religious groups of people, who think they are the right ones, in whole of the history but they them self stil eating meat, drink alcohol, smoke, sleep arund, play poker, swear, insult, make violence, think in head whatever they want to...eat what is not needed for body... OH and so much more, the list
.. even doing ONE of the things,.. is CLEAR sing that human knows little about God and wants little to do with a god.. just wanting to use this word for boost of ego and ordering others, and i am glad to do that same, as what you do, will be done for you
to others what you want them to to to you
simple rules of the Nature
.. even doing ONE of the things,.. is CLEAR sing that human knows little about God and wants little to do with a god.. just wanting to use this word for boost of ego and ordering others, and i am glad to do that same, as what you do, will be done for you
to others what you want them to to to you
simple rules of the Nature
3 February 2015 14:28
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
"og we have not been changed ... we have not been changed... islam is same.. we have all the words in abook as before.. " oh.. really.. is that important or is THAT important that you understandthe words you read and keep the commandments ?
What is the use if the words are same but you not fallow them ?
It is like showing off with a car picture you not own or even can not drive,
What is the use if the words are same but you not fallow them ?
It is like showing off with a car picture you not own or even can not drive,
3 February 2015 14:26
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
As islam is like protestant chritianty (and well, we fogive them also, as they also was needed) .. as they think, do waht wills (as alister clowly.. as it is fro ma cult..) but just repent, abuse god good will and all will be ok.. for how long ? he IDEA was to make it so, that there WIL NOT BE even singe sinning man left with less the n15 generations, but it is like some parents like to give perversions to their children and allow them to be alive if they are just not needed reall, in a nature eye.
If you not needed for nature, there is no use of you, god has enought worshipers up to every worm, un countable amount, you arogant one human generation does not add so much that it can be wiped away as a bad smell with a wind and no one knows even it was here
If you not needed for nature, there is no use of you, god has enought worshipers up to every worm, un countable amount, you arogant one human generation does not add so much that it can be wiped away as a bad smell with a wind and no one knows even it was here
3 February 2015 14:23
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
just takes time to make a the one who reads proof smart enouht that one would knwo what they read, but even small kids will get it, we make it so easy this time
3 February 2015 14:20
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
easy to proove
3 February 2015 14:20
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
based on fact
3 February 2015 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
it is eavning right now
3 February 2015 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
that is a day
3 February 2015 14:18
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
If you love, then you order these you love to be righful and on correct path or they will go in to destruction wiht less then 1000 years
3 February 2015 14:18
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
Thousands of years? I thought it was like 700.. or less then 2000 even.. how much there is a scriptures about Islam that are reaching pre writing times as the bible, that can be connected to SUmerians and more then that ?
3 February 2015 14:17
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
(and remeber, i love Islam and it is one of my favorite greations among the ones in here, just as we can see it hasnot been working out even if entire earth to convertto Sunny or Sufi )
3 February 2015 14:16
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
Just look how limited are the knowledge in Koran compared to old Indian knowledge,
as i told, soon there will be released, final proof about Islam and about all scriptures, that will take few hundred years to read, if we are on it with entire planet,
as i told, soon there will be released, final proof about Islam and about all scriptures, that will take few hundred years to read, if we are on it with entire planet,
3 February 2015 14:15
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
As i told, it is not even 5000 years old, just a kids, not even know how to live basic ways
and even after god write yu down, in most bealtiful way there is writen in Earth, about how to do, some basic, elementary things, even then can not keep up
what a hypocrites are these who think they fallow islam but lack love for Nature
and even after god write yu down, in most bealtiful way there is writen in Earth, about how to do, some basic, elementary things, even then can not keep up
what a hypocrites are these who think they fallow islam but lack love for Nature
3 February 2015 14:11
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
You are on OUR Earth with this alien religion that needed to comand instructions for a things that even half reaterded person knows with not writing rules, it is only needed for a people who not evolved.
Come to life women and become free from that Spell, you are Much more then that.
We will turn inslam in to proper islam, as it was meant to be not as it is imagined to be and kept (and not fallowed)
As i told you , from your everyday deeds, You are the insulter of islam women with your worng behavor (that is not so many i do not mention them publicly here).
React back more then a Sumerian times, if You want to see some truth,
We have made islam, we made others that are needed and we will say how they go and do and will be on that Earth of Ours as long they agree, they want to obey to Nature and stay here, the time of nature patience is running up, and is time to pop the imaginary puble, that your fake praings and repentace is just a joke and self fooling, Nature needs sensire willingful obidiance and love, and help and work and care, all the time, not just when clock calls you to pray or few times a year when one needs to dress up to make fake image of him self to others , how obidiant beliver one is and then makes harm for hes Body, that is Devine Gift from a Nature
Come to life women and become free from that Spell, you are Much more then that.
We will turn inslam in to proper islam, as it was meant to be not as it is imagined to be and kept (and not fallowed)
As i told you , from your everyday deeds, You are the insulter of islam women with your worng behavor (that is not so many i do not mention them publicly here).
React back more then a Sumerian times, if You want to see some truth,
We have made islam, we made others that are needed and we will say how they go and do and will be on that Earth of Ours as long they agree, they want to obey to Nature and stay here, the time of nature patience is running up, and is time to pop the imaginary puble, that your fake praings and repentace is just a joke and self fooling, Nature needs sensire willingful obidiance and love, and help and work and care, all the time, not just when clock calls you to pray or few times a year when one needs to dress up to make fake image of him self to others , how obidiant beliver one is and then makes harm for hes Body, that is Devine Gift from a Nature
3 February 2015 14:09
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
(and if it would be alive Rocks.. where is ferry university living inside or other smarter stones.. that are alive.. that would be OK.. to give honor.. as a smat person.. but in a group.. to a dead stone.. .. ot to choose only one stone out of all stones.. strange one...)
3 February 2015 14:03
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
Pagans are more near to God then wrong beliving humans who think they do God job and not wanting to change if they are comanded to.
As they made statues of their "gods" and go and give honor to a rocks
As they made statues of their "gods" and go and give honor to a rocks
3 February 2015 14:02
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
And one final one for YOU ... ISA...
"“He who slaughters an ox is like one who kills a man; he who sacrifices a lamb, like one who breaks a dog's neck; he who presents a grain offering, like one who offers pig's blood; he who makes a memorial offering of frankincense, like one who blesses an idol. These have chosen their own ways, and their soul delights in their abominations; ...Isaiah 66:3
"“He who slaughters an ox is like one who kills a man; he who sacrifices a lamb, like one who breaks a dog's neck; he who presents a grain offering, like one who offers pig's blood; he who makes a memorial offering of frankincense, like one who blesses an idol. These have chosen their own ways, and their soul delights in their abominations; ...Isaiah 66:3
3 February 2015 14:00
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
" Food will not commend us to God. We are no worse off if we do not eat, and no better off if we do."
1 Corinthians 8:8
But can be make SAME sentence about PLants? Know one human who can live with out a plants? Is there one human on earth who can stay alive just by eating meat? No you can not as it is toxic with death. Try to eat, only a meat, see what happens. Plants will clean out the poisons and death from your body so it seems like it is good. But actually it is an evil.
BUt focurse, ROmans say..
"Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. " Romans 14:3
That is technically true in special conditicion but it is like blackmailing a god, as teling to wife "you must fogive me if i beat you as if you love me you forgive..." (and then keep balackmail and beating..)..
...and it is true.. for some time... only.. and still looks SICK to the ones who know, about violence.
As the fact is
Genesis 1:29 " And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food"
AND even that should we FEEL later, as plants spirits are HIGER evolved then humans (and humans are not higer then animal,as WE still do not know how to live..) .. plants can leave from the pain.. but not all the plants are the same.. at all.
Have you seen animals who cry when you want to murder them? I have seen tears of animal, have you ? You should live in a farm and try to evolve huger level, to communicate with animals, so see then if you want to eat one of them "just becuse you like to fill your attictin taste" ... no less sick then zombi eating brains of human, besides that animal is LESS quilty.
So important is to:
1 Corinthians 10:31 " So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. " - that is TO LIVING GOD, that is INCLUDING to the spirits of animals, and plants if you know, to recive from them what is from them and to be forgiven for as You are just a human comparedto nature, who knows no better way for life then this. But you promisse to evolve, with every meal that you are been kept alive, for a reason to eat your own body, to reach where is needed, to the knowledge to become free from dead flash, corpse eating, and many other eating adictions. And disease of thinking evil by justifing the bad we do in here. But Romans have teach to all alien inhabitents, satans children that God is just a some virtual consept, far away,nothing to do with a earth living, ... the most evil ones..
as they are combination of a computer robot mind and hate against human and Nature and who is to Rule justifily.
and.. ROMANS... adding:
"One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. " Romans 14:2
How much MORE clear can it be made?
1 Corinthians 8:8
But can be make SAME sentence about PLants? Know one human who can live with out a plants? Is there one human on earth who can stay alive just by eating meat? No you can not as it is toxic with death. Try to eat, only a meat, see what happens. Plants will clean out the poisons and death from your body so it seems like it is good. But actually it is an evil.
BUt focurse, ROmans say..
"Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. " Romans 14:3
That is technically true in special conditicion but it is like blackmailing a god, as teling to wife "you must fogive me if i beat you as if you love me you forgive..." (and then keep balackmail and beating..)..
...and it is true.. for some time... only.. and still looks SICK to the ones who know, about violence.
As the fact is
Genesis 1:29 " And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food"
AND even that should we FEEL later, as plants spirits are HIGER evolved then humans (and humans are not higer then animal,as WE still do not know how to live..) .. plants can leave from the pain.. but not all the plants are the same.. at all.
Have you seen animals who cry when you want to murder them? I have seen tears of animal, have you ? You should live in a farm and try to evolve huger level, to communicate with animals, so see then if you want to eat one of them "just becuse you like to fill your attictin taste" ... no less sick then zombi eating brains of human, besides that animal is LESS quilty.
So important is to:
1 Corinthians 10:31 " So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. " - that is TO LIVING GOD, that is INCLUDING to the spirits of animals, and plants if you know, to recive from them what is from them and to be forgiven for as You are just a human comparedto nature, who knows no better way for life then this. But you promisse to evolve, with every meal that you are been kept alive, for a reason to eat your own body, to reach where is needed, to the knowledge to become free from dead flash, corpse eating, and many other eating adictions. And disease of thinking evil by justifing the bad we do in here. But Romans have teach to all alien inhabitents, satans children that God is just a some virtual consept, far away,nothing to do with a earth living, ... the most evil ones..
as they are combination of a computer robot mind and hate against human and Nature and who is to Rule justifily.
and.. ROMANS... adding:
"One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. " Romans 14:2
How much MORE clear can it be made?
3 February 2015 14:00
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
Soul eaters. Robots, zombies. blinded by desire. Flesh additcion.
We will eliminate ALL flesh eaters, there will be NO flesh eating in any heavens.
And You will not enter there before You are ready. This is a fact.
And no one, who is not able to kill or murder someone they want to eat should not eat it.
"We know not what the nature of the soul,
Born in the womb, or at the birth infused,
Whether it dies with us, or wings its way
Unto the gloomy pools of Orcus vast."
"And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to everything that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is a living soul, I have given every green herb for meat."
Genesis 2:7
"They all draw the same breath...all came from the dust, and to dust all return."
Ecclesiastes 3:19-20
"The second angel poured out his bowl upon the sea, so that it turned to blood as of a corpse, and every living soul that was in the sea died."
Revelations 16:3
SOULS.. in a sea... (yes, FISH also..)
We will eliminate ALL flesh eaters, there will be NO flesh eating in any heavens.
And You will not enter there before You are ready. This is a fact.
And no one, who is not able to kill or murder someone they want to eat should not eat it.
"We know not what the nature of the soul,
Born in the womb, or at the birth infused,
Whether it dies with us, or wings its way
Unto the gloomy pools of Orcus vast."
"And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to everything that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is a living soul, I have given every green herb for meat."
Genesis 2:7
"They all draw the same breath...all came from the dust, and to dust all return."
Ecclesiastes 3:19-20
"The second angel poured out his bowl upon the sea, so that it turned to blood as of a corpse, and every living soul that was in the sea died."
Revelations 16:3
SOULS.. in a sea... (yes, FISH also..)
3 February 2015 13:59
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
I not want to see someone killing animals, are you mad? For me it is like someone is cuting small children open, it is a SICKS
3 February 2015 13:27
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
Stated by Flesh Eaters who are barbarians, so they would not start to eat kids, as they did old times,
3 February 2015 13:26
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
and they must be medicated
3 February 2015 13:25
Margus Meigo commented on Isa Linda's link.
Anyone who is slaghtering animals is sick in the head
3 February 2015 13:24
Margus Meigo commented on Alari Aus's post.
Group: Kristlased
ma ise kraad kahtlasem veelgi vist, mul kõik need sümptomid tekkisid juba enne seda kui Nazareti ja Jeesuse ära oma peas ühendada oskasin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazirite
http://www.nazarite.net/
http://www.thenazareneway.com/Allegory%20101.htmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazirite
2 February 2015 20:02
Margus Meigo commented on Alari Aus's post.
Group: Kristlased
aga on ju kirjas algselt, et nimi on Jehoova ?
Või miskit taolist?2 February 2015 19:56
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
Group: Sulle-kes sa kõnnid vaimsel teerajal ja vajad teekaaslast, hingesugulast...
Siis on mõtekas tegelda millegi taolisega imho
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment
http://acidmath.me/Psilocybin-The-Temporary-Internet-For-The-Brain (üks selle grupi ilus inimene just lisas selle viimase lingi samal ajal sellele mõeldes)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment
2 February 2015 19:52
Margus Meigo commented on Ardi Tedrekin's post.
Group: Kristlased
Ardi kas sa shamaani (psühhedeelseid) rohtusi oleksid nõus jumala nimel endasse võtma ?
(midagi taolist mitmes kohas rohkem ja rohkem korraldama hakatakse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Chapel_Experiment
2 February 2015 19:41
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Quesada's post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
That just sounds wrong and strange, like greek thing.
prejuctice
(anything dressed like "western man" instead of proper country way is a strange inovatio)2 February 2015 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
Group: Sulle-kes sa kõnnid vaimsel teerajal ja vajad teekaaslast, hingesugulast...
(Looduse Kroon: usun, et kui õige kooselu siis alles päris vabadus saabub! Vabadus paljust kõrvalisest sest olulisem on olemas.)
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/mugavuse osas/ NU mehed loodigi naiste teenimiseks ja naistele kasulikuks kasutamiseks,
ja siis kui pole muud kasutust, sis kasutada selleks, et ennast parandada.. (selja sügamiseks või mida iganes), sest naise kasutus on selline, et maha jätab ikka alati parema olukorra kui enne
Kuid kui mees seda aru ei taha saada ja õigesti võtta siis muidugi võib tunduda, et palju hullem.. (kuid noh, eks lugenud, et ka Nais olevusi, kes hoopis muude tunnetega meeste suhtes.. ja üldse mitte hea pärast ei vaata ega kasuta neid äbarike lihtsameelseid olendeid...)
(tegelt ma olen väga kõrgel arusaamal meist, meestest... lihtsalt reaalsesse perspektiivi panna node asjadega mida näinud...)2 February 2015 19:25
Margus Meigo commented on Ardi Tedrekin's post.
Group: Kristlased
Oot aga miks nad siis peaks nagu olema just pahade poolel?
kust meile see teadmine tuli..2 February 2015 18:48
Margus Meigo commented on Hiie Tikk's photo.
Vau kui pikad mehed
2 February 2015 14:25
Margus Meigo commented on Egle Liebenau's link.
Loodetavasti oli keegi kohal, kes kõige olulisema ka meeltesse pani, et tegu väga vaimse ja võimsa taimega..
2 February 2015 14:23
Margus Meigo commented on Egle Liebenau's link.
Igakord ,mul see vaatamata jäänud :(
2 February 2015 14:22
Margus Meigo commented on Justiina Velner's post.
Group: Sulle-kes sa kõnnid vaimsel teerajal ja vajad teekaaslast, hingesugulast...
A
kuid tunnen nagu B... kui keegi selle tähestiku nüüd selgeks saada aitaks2 February 2015 14:08
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
ära nüüd ahneks mine :p2 February 2015 13:53
Margus Meigo commented on Alari Aus's post.
Group: Kristlased
(alustuseks tuleb aru saada, et kogu elektriga seonduv rahast kuni suurema osa toodeteni on "vaenlase käes" seega üli õnnistatud peaksime olema, kui üldse midagi head nad lubavad eetri lasta, seni kuni me pole ärganud, ja ametlikult riikide korda enda kanda võtnud, avalikult)2 February 2015 13:51
Margus Meigo commented on Alari Aus's post.
Group: Kristlased
TV 3 veel hullem, see puha punane ja võeti üle juba mitu aastat tagasi avalikult (to aeg kui neil kiviga aken sisse visati)
Occultism, maaelu ja rahvuslikus läbi segi tundub küll paha kuid kindlasti parem ja reaalsuse ligemal (harjutab üldse inimesi, et sellised asjad olemas on..) kui puhas äri, poliitika, sõda ja kommerts.
Kui keegi vähegi pool tõsiselt mõtlema hakkab tulnukatest, tontidest ja kasvõi konspiratsioonidest usu osas, siis Julgen loota, et see ikka osaliselt seda tööd ette ära tegev mida me tegema peaksime, lihtsalt jälgima peab mida kuidas räägitakse (kohe strateegiliselt jälgima) ja pidevalt tele saate tegijatele, telekanalile ja inimestele saata kindlaid täiendusi ja parandusi Tõe osas,
kuid üldiselt see aitab ka kursis olla sellega mis moodi ammu juba arvatakse... või mis moodi arvama tahetakse panna oluliste asjade osas.
ETV nii heaks läinud, et isegi hommikul vikerraadio jumala palvusi laseb, et teised kanalid liiga uhked või võltslikud selle jaoks oleks (vist, veel?)..
Kuid üleskutse on väga väga hea ja kiiduväärt, sooviks rohkem selliseid aktsioone näha!2 February 2015 13:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
Aga ikkagi Taimi, kuidas Sinu südamele Tammsaare pilkamisega tundus ?2 February 2015 13:40
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Muidugi Meelis kui mõelda, et raha meelemürk siis kindlasti nad seda Sulle anda ei soovi ei üks ega teine (nu ma ise raha väga armastan nagu elektrit aga ilma selleta juba aastaid olnud, seega ega to alati ka ei toimi koheselt)
Ses soas, et olla raha osas ülbe ka pole sobilik, mõtle kui selle taga on oma tont, kes seda jagab... Raha Tont, umbes nagu meie mõistes raamatupidaja, ja siis ta vaatab kuidas Sa suhtud sellesse... ja siis kuidas Sa kasutad ja mida tunned.. mõõdab su rõõme ja tundeid ja tegusi... ja siis päris karmi hinnangu Su hinge siiruse lahtrisse võib kirja panna, või lausa isiklikult solvub ja ...
Mine tea mis siis kui tont solvub aga noh, ega see asja paremaks ei tee, sest enamasti inimene ikka ise süüdi kui kellelegi jalapeale astub.2 February 2015 13:37
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Tiiu, sa va radikaal! :p2 February 2015 13:33
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Kuid võidelda armastusega ainult, sest kõik mis ilma armastusega tehtud on tühi töö ja hinge närimine.
Armastusega võitlemine, on näiteks oma antipaatse poliitikule heade soovidega, kodu lubatud valge maagiaga küpsetada ilus ja täis armastust kook kus hoiad mõtteid selle inimese peal ja paned osa oma hingest kaasa (ära muretse, saad tagasi).. kaunistad.. ja siis lähed viid selle koogi temale, juurde võid veel kirjutada sedeli ka oma murega .. kuid lisada veel paar head sõna ka juurde ja naeratuse, mis poleks võlts vaid heasoovlik.
(kindlasti rohkem tulusam kui 20 inimest seda teeb, selle asemel, et piketil siltidega hurjutada )2 February 2015 13:31
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Jumala kartus on tarkuse algus
(ja kui jumalat kardad, siis muud pole karta miskit...)2 February 2015 13:25
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Nu rumalus tihti on seotud jumala sõna puudulikuma teadmisega ja mis saab veel ohtlikum olla
(kuid saan aru jah, et ega tarka inimest, kes poleks rumal kuid samas Jonnakas.. eriti pole, sest mida targem ja jonnakam seda rumalam veelgi ju)2 February 2015 13:23
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Seda ka jah, kas kogu VIking Loto on lubatud, selline käitumine, selline selle müümine.. selles osalemine... ja selles võitmine kas on lubatud ja kas on lubatud see raha vastu võtta ja milleks.
Ehk kui kuri maailm selle raha annab ja sellega pistmist tegemisel midagi head loota ei ole, sest nemad reguleerivad mida nende rahaga teed...
ja siis omakorda mis moodi see meeli rikub... ku numbritele inimesi treenida lootma... kui palju vale palveid ja kirumisi iga õhtu see genereerib see loto, kas seda ikka vaja targematel olenditel ?2 February 2015 13:21
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Meelis Vesi, Ylle Kruuse No siis te ju vastasite lihtsalt selgitusega ära, et kumba tuleb rohkem karta (seda mida vaja ei lähe)2 February 2015 13:18
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
(Tiiu Krumholts kui muud vastust ei tule siis mulle alati võib, eks ma anneta edasi kui muudpidi tundma hakkan )
Kuid küsimus oleks: Kas see on lubatud2 February 2015 13:16
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Kristlased
pika jutu mõte on, et ei tasu kasutuks tunnistada Looja parimaid loojanguid,
kuidas Sa tunneksid, kui keegi Sinu parima sõbra või vennanaise suhtes üleolev või ükskõikne on kuid tahab Su majas olla ?2 February 2015 13:11
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
Group: Kristlased
Noh, see selline ahelreaktsioon, et Vatikan tõi meelde püha sõdalased.. need tõid meelde jutud mis räägitud, jutu kirjelduseks lisasin ühe puukarbi ja siis selle läbi oma puukart tuli meelde mille läbi tulid mormoonid meelde kui lühidalt kokku võtta, kuna miskit muud vestlust selle lingi all polnud, siis lasin meeltel joosta ja jagada hinge sisu neile kellele, mine tea, ehk mõni tera jäi millest kinni haarata.
Esitek see jumal ole igas inimeses kes Jumalat tunneb (ja mine tea, ehk kõikides teistes lojustes ka kui soovi on) ja keegi ega siis ju ei otsi lunastust inimese kaudu vaid tuleb osata ja soovida täielikult alistuda ja anduda ka inimesele keda armastad, kui sa seda isegi inimesele ei soovi teha, hoiad kaela kange, siis muude olenditega, kuni Loojani see vast veel võimatum saab siiralt olema.
Sest pole vaja orjalikku pugejalikku "sa nii võimas, ma nii kasutu, ooo võimas ma selle pärast allun sulle et muud võimalust nagunii mul pole" .. vaid ikka rohkem nagu täis väärtuslikult, aru saades nii palju sellest kes ja kui Suur ja oluline Sa ise oled, kui olulised sipelgad ja kui kummardamist väärsed mõned Sufi pühaksud kes Jumal siia pannud, et just teatud sorti inimesteni südame pehmendust viia, kui suured ja võimsad on need paar kodutu sees olevat vaimu kes siin inimmaailma tegemisi vaatavad jne.. Kuid sa kõik need pühakud, vaimud, taimed ja olendid maha kannad kui kasutud ja ennast nii heaks pead, et sind vähimalgi määral ei huvita Jumala sügavus igas vallas, vaid nõuad endale kõike head ilma raskustest ja keerulisustest aru saada soovimata.. siis minea tea.. vast kuskile tava kontori tööle reas lipsu kanda pääseb aga hakata täis loomingulist kõike haaravat elu elama, tehes igal lainel seda mida jumalale vaja (kui taevas pole vaja piiblit õpetada, millega Sa siis sääl tegelema hakkad mida kosmose ja planeedi, looduse arhidektidele vaja nii kindlat? Niisama igavesti sulgpatjadel küll keegi kandma ei hakka.. vaid nauding, paradiis on see, et saad hakata sellist tööd tegema mida armastad.. saad hakkama selliselt teenima mis on kasulik, mitte enam ei tegele oletuste ja õppimisega ainult, et kas see ja see asi on vaja või lubatud
oeh mida ma jälle rääkima sattusin..
eks kunagi parandab..2 February 2015 13:08
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Vesi's post.
Group: Kristlased
Mis neil vahet on ?2 February 2015 12:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kristlased
See põhi õpetus on ju alati olnud ja jääb olema vanas testamendis,
Ma ei saa aru kust kohast ja kellel need arusaamad üldse rasked saavad olla, et "uus" nüüd ja et kas vana ka vaja,
Selgelt ju kirjas, et seda algset tarkust tuldi kinnitama. Mida eluks tarvilikku uues on ilma milleta hing hukka saab kui vana mõista?
Uus on nendele, kes nii noored, et vana ei mõista, võiks veel lisada kui tahta nipsakas olla..2 February 2015 12:49
Margus Meigo commented on Eugen Veges's post.
Group: Vabade Kodanike Ühendus
Varsti on ainult sellised riigid lubatud, kus kogu raha vool on reaalajas kõigile näha2 February 2015 12:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Got it
2 February 2015 01:32
Margus Meigo commented on Reza Rafati's post.
Group: The Cyber Security Union
for the beginners, nerds, last part does not mean you get layd2 February 2015 01:31
Margus Meigo commented on Tiago Rosado's post.
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Yeah, now we secure2 February 2015 01:30
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ja ka tema pani naeratama vanasti
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=anthony+de+mellohttps://www.youtube.com/results?q=anthony+de+mello
2 February 2015 01:29
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Tänud, vaatan kindlasti (kui kindlustunnet saan, et mul internetti selleks jätkub..) .. juba varem teele jäänud Tamming ja Reichist kuid eks vaja siis vast rohkem hoolega.
ma ise Alan Wattsi koolkonna inimene mitmes osas
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=alan+watts
ja kahttps://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=alan+watts
2 February 2015 01:29
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NU suures pildis ikka peaks kristlane olema see kes muigab, kui teisel pole sabagi aga ninna kargab ikka nagu võrdsega..
sest ega see ju ohustatud pole kellel mitu elu seljataga ja ees2 February 2015 01:12
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Kuid müstiline oli, et vanema mehe ja naise suhtes nad olid vastumeelsed sh naised, väga karmilt kuid pederastia poolt samas (selgitasin ka veel, et NOOR 14+ poiss ja 50+ mees..) ... kuid noh, eks inimesed ongi müstilised.2 February 2015 00:34
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Ükskord ma võrdõiguslase grupis tegin pederastia karistatavuse kohta ka küsitluse, kuid siis jutt aega keegi ei julgenud vastata ja lõpuks kõik vastasid ühe pidi peale mu ja mu venna.
Kuid jah, seda lahterdamist siin võiks jätkata ka pikas tulevikus, siis see aitaks suhelda ja see mis südamel ammu olnud, omavahel kasvõi privaat sõnumis selgeks rääkida, sest vaja ju on.2 February 2015 00:32
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poliitikud on alles poisikesed,
eriti need kes on2 February 2015 00:29
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Ülle, muidugi jääb sest poliitika tuli ju jupp maadhiljem!2 February 2015 00:28
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MUl on jälle Kristlaste üle nii hea meel, mõtle kui üldse poleks (kristlased ju täis usklikud, kõige osas arusaajad..).. tead küll, mis juutidega juba ammusest ajast juhtunud kui nad oma tagasihoidlikuses on proovinud asju korras hoida kange kaelaga. aasta oli siis 64 või 136..
Meil sellised kristlased olid ühel troopilisel saarel, et nad tegid mida kõike ei sünni kirja panna ja siis läksid kirikusse korra nädal ja olid rohkem kui veendunud, et asjad nüüd on korras.
Eks mul see juba lapsest saati oli vastukarva, et kuidas see aus on.. kuid nüüd mõistan.. et olgu kuidas on, kuid suure tõenäosusega ikka kui laev randa tuleb, õige valge laev, siis astuvad nad õigele pardale.
Muidugi vahest puru silma ajades enam ei pruugi paati näha ka ega hästi sireeni kuulda.. kuid noh.. eks meil igast hulgi arste ja signaali tehnoloogia meistreid tekkinud igaks elu juhtumiks. Ja tõepoolest, juhtumeid sellel saarel oli nii mõndagi, arstist sõber ükspäev tuli koju, ütles, et tal patsiendil oli hambahari kõhus, kahes tükis, kuid to ise eiolnud sellest teadlik ega ei uskunud ka kõhupilti, tõsilugu.
(muidu saar ise oli ilus ja rõõmsate inimestega, nende osas kes rõõmsad olid https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1863634587337&set=a.1863491663764.2105367.1135161043&type=3&theater ...noh, pildimateriali ka ikka vahest, et ma muidu lorajuttu ei räägi )2 February 2015 00:13
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Nu jah, minu puukast on Londoni ühes keldris, ainult paar mormonit teavad kus see asub, ja kui pakistani töölised kes mul sääl magada lasid pole mu kohvreid ära koristanud siis nad siiamaani...
(Mormonid: https://plus.google.com/photos/+MargusWaffa/albums/5958799156216600721/5958802222775199778?pid=5958802222775199778&oid=102871056968914830739 ... ja mõned asjad ei muutu siiani.. magan endiselt samas sini-mustas anarhistide käest metsas saadud magamiskotis... ütlesid, et keegi keda nad ei tea tuli ja jättis..ja läks ise ära.. just siis kui mul vaja oli.. no jah, see selleks, lihtsalt, jagamist väärt)https://plus.google.com/photos/+MargusWaffa/albums/5958799156216600721/5958802222775199778?pid=5958802222775199778&oid=102871056968914830739
2 February 2015 00:05
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Pahk's post.
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Tead ma olin ühes kirikus inglise maal, viidi pika kaarega, isegi rongiraha anti, sain süüa asusime asu arutama. ja siis lõpuks kutsuti välja nende raskekahur, kes olevat piiblit nii mitukorda otsast lõpuni lugenud (ei mäletagi, aga number oli suur)
Kuid lõpuks ta ka väga fanaatiliselt rahulik oli, no mitte ainult selle pärast, et ma seletasin mu ümber kogunenud tüdrukutele, et ega neid tulnukate uskujaid välja naerda ei tasu, et tulid ju maale nood me nais noolima ja ka Ezekel.. (eriti kui pilti panna https://www.facebook.com/Psychedelic.Experience/media_set?set=a.10201854561742449.1073741826.1135161043&type=3 võib tunduda mõnele päris võrreldav hipide reisides ja unes kohtavate kohtadega...
ahjaa, nu igatahes, siis ma küsin, et miks nad siis nii suuresti siin ise nagu sekti moodi asja ajavad ja võiks ju liitus olla vanade tarkadega Vatikanist ja nii mõnigi moslem väga Vanajumala kartlik, juutidest rääkimata
siis ta selle peale suure häälega naeruvääristama hakkas, kõiki sõnu polnud vaja meeles hoida olnud aga suurim tõestus, et miks see mingi õige asi pole node arvates, et "nad ju isegi Mariat pühakuna võtavad!"
mis mul oli täitsa arusaamatu argument, sest nagu kuidas muidu Sa Jumala Emasse ikka suhtuma peaks eriti veel Post-Sumeri aegses ajas.... ämmale lisak ka pruudi hoiaks veel VIP listis. Või noh, kui lorijutuna ette kujutada, et poleks vaja olnud jälle ristile minna, siis ju ta ikka kellegi lähedase oleks ära kosinud "isa soovitusel.. "
(aa meelde tuli, see pääste arme vennad, kuid noh, nemad siin videos sõbralikud ja toredad, proovisin lihtsalt uurida miks neil nõnda palju viis nurgakesi.. kuigi mõne olekust lausa see "Mu mütsil on kolm nurka.." laul tuli meelde https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wo7YJK62c0&list=PLsXelNZnKcxmY4U9QdeblEIeZUK_K85JA ise rohkem oleksin võinud kraad asjalikum olla, ega ma otseselt vist ei saanutki asjalikult selgusele, isegi ime, et tühjad patareid kõik need asjad vahest filmile võttis )1 February 2015 23:58
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Kurameerimisest rääkides, film sai lõpule, ja prostituut saigi õnnelikuks.
Muidugi, mõni oleks keelanud ka prostituudi austamise, et liiga maine ehk1 February 2015 23:23
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Tammsaare maha tegemine on jumala peale sülitamine1 February 2015 23:22
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Oota mis nagu.. nüüd saan aru küll mis pool lauda te istute,
Te arvate ka, et pole vaja oma kätega teha maakera korda, nii nagu Sa armastatud Jumala heaks tegema peaksid, vaid et istud käed ristis ja naeratad luues endale illusioone, et piisab sellest ka kui tead midagi? Ikka tegudes ja sõnades (need ka teod) kajastub su usk mitte ainult kõrvade vahel.
See niigi ilmselge, et andeks on antud kõigile ammu, kuid kui see arusaadav pole, et meie ISE peame, oma Jumala antud KÕIGEGA mis meil on, Kõik siin korda saama ja tegema, juba Eile, siis ... oot ma tulen selle juurde tagasi, vaatan filmi kuidas prostituut õnnelikuks saab1 February 2015 22:54
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Ja siis veel lisaks.. kuldsed sõnad
"Ema Ema Kas Jumal Suudab NII suure tule ära kustutada"
"Laps, Tuli isegi ei põle, kui Jumal seda ei luba "1 February 2015 21:43
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Kusjuures tänapäeval interneti raamatu poodides, on piiblile lausa arvustused kirjutatud võrdväärselt Kriminullidega, kus kommentaarid olid ajaloose salvestamise väärsed. Mõni lausa arvas, et lugu polnud üldse põnev.
Kuid miks piibel koolis keelatud ja Tammsaare lubatud (sunnitud) eks sellel lihtsaid seletusi palju, kuid teod nende taga on mitme kihilised, sest ega siis näiteks inim vaimutegevuse vastuluure ka ei piirdu ainult tavapärase piibli vastase standard laimu elus hoidmisega vaid neil vaja ka otsida midagi mis väga pärismaalase südameligi oleks (kellel on see mõnes kaugemaa külas puutokk või jaanilinnu legend, kellel on see Tammsaare või Kalevipoja legend..) oluline, et saaks kasutada ideoloogia tarvis midagi mis mõtteid vale suunalisemaks aitaks teha. Soomest pärit Kalevipojaga oli lihtne.. te ta joodikus ja vägivaldseks ning pane uskuma, et see rahva uhkus.
Tammsaarega aga neil oli eriti kaval plaan, sest sisu oli VAST paar takti liiga kõrge, et päriselt aru saada kuid detailid olid piisavad mis ideaalselt sobisid selleks mida otsiti: kedagi paha teha heaks ja selle suunas sümpaatiat tõsta ja eriti hea kui saaks veel selle vastu, kellel rist niigi seljas (või see, sarved peas st.)
On ju selge, et kaval Ants on üks kõige deemonlikum kuju keda meil kirjeldatud on, andes täpselt kirjeldust Nedest kes me inimrassi ammu vallutanud, ja vaatamata sellele,et teine kuuma tina silma kallas, siia kõige paremini elama tulnud ristiinimesele, kelle taga kõrgest soost kuradile suudeti meie kooli ajal panna lapsi tunnetama, et see Kaval-Ants ikka üks lahe kuju ja hea oli, et ikka teisel keeras nii kuidas sai... siis alateadvusesse veel see valetamise õpetus jms..
Muidugi vanajumal ajast ees, ja nüüd uuesti kiirelt filmina ära vaadates, näete selgelt, veel millise välimusega see mees seda mängima on valitud (kiriku tseen preestriga, kus preester ütles "vb ongi hea kui sinusugune maha löödaks, mis sa arvad?" mille peale ta vastas "sellest pole tolku.. tuleb mu asemel uus, ja vast veel hullem.." andes ka mõistu, et nad tulevad.. tegu polnud ju päris inimesega, sest ta tunnetus looduse ja inimhinge osas oli olematu, sellised kelle see vanakurat heameelega esimesena käsile võtab nagu talle Jumala antud töö nõuab ). Ja nüüd need samad LIPSUDES mehed meil nii standard üle maailma, et arvatakse, et ongi normaalne nende moodi mõelda ja teha... noh, et ikka "inimese jutt" oleks.
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Ja siis veel lisaks.. kuldsed sõnad
"Ema Ema Kas Jumal Suudab NII suure tule ära kustutada"
"Laps, Tuli isegi ei põle, kui Jumal seda ei luba "
Ehk siis andes selge arusaama, Jumala tagasihoidlikust surusest mille valguses kogu seda ja nende tegusi vaadata tuleks.
Ma usun, et see Kurat... Saatan.. Deemonid.. ja veel muud kollid ikka päris ühest soost ei ole, ja pole ka vale arvata, et teine on küll Peetrusest madalamal, kuid piisavalt kõrgel, et võib vahepeal taeva väravate peale koputada, et oma elu olu üle kurta kuni korraldused kätte antakse...
Kuid jah, lisaks, kui veel sundida kedagi lugema midagi, ega sis seda sügavalt hea südamega ei loe ega aru ei saada, samamoodi tehti ka pühakirjadega süstemaatiliselt, kus vuristatakse nii, et on.. aga mediteerida selles iga salmi osas või käiku panna mida loetakse... selles osas ollakse tagasihoidliud...
(kuid ärgem laske ennast häirida.. minu arusaamatustest.. jätkame... mis siis oli selle loo sõnum, õpetus, moraal?)1 February 2015 21:43
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Väga mõnus vastus, jaga veel selliseid : )1 February 2015 20:24
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Nu jah, ma päris tühja miks loodan, et ei uuri vaid kui juba küsin siis sellega ühes tükis enamasti tuleb ka lahendus "kuidas"(teada saada, või lahendada )
Häirivad emotsioonid on ka haruldus, kuid kuigi neid sooviks (emotsioone) rohkem, siis nagu üksi olles neid kogeda tean, et viib jalust, tahaks ikka kellegi kindla suunas suunata läbi kelle siis kõike suuremat.1 February 2015 20:23
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Ma tunnen, et on õiglane kui need pärivad ainult kes täpselt ja otse, surmani selles suunas teevad tööd mida nad näha soovivad (ja mille osas ei tee, siis vähemalt südames toetada, käsitöö, taimed, palkmajad.. loodus suhtlus )
1 February 2015 18:54
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Lev Mõškin ma loodan ka, et sellega saame hakkama, et inimesed selle lihtsa tarkuseni viia, et teineteise kukil elamine on suur õnnetus õnne osas...
1 February 2015 18:52
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Pille Bender ma midagi loota ei julge igaks juhuks, niigi ei tea, kas sedasigi sobib Tegelikult..
(kuid kohe kindlasti ma ei eelda vähemat kui head ja "seda mida vaja")1 February 2015 18:51
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Signe SikiLotta tänud soovituste eest.. vot ei tea.. mul selline sinimust valge tunne selle profiili osas ja kindlasti midagi müstiliseks ei proovi teha vaid nii tavaliseks kui saan,
samas ju siis ta annab ka mingit muud õigemat informatsiooni asja tõsidusest.. sest midagi rõõmsat ja looduslikult värvilist (mis mulle kõikide teiste puhul meeldib) ma endale pannes, tunduks nagu pettus kuidagi..
Kuid jah.. kaua sa üksi selle hinge eest hoolt kannad ja kuidas üldse teada on, kas kannad hoolt või mitte?
NO elementaarne, ei alkoholile, ei vilkuvatele või kurjadele filmidele, ei lõhkuvale muusikale, ei suitsule, ei lihale, ei soolale, suhkrule, piprale, mitmele muule toituainele (ei tea, millegi pärast suurem osa kahevitsalised taimed ei tundu vajalikud olema..), ei piimsele.. ei ropendamisele nii mõttes kui kirjas, ei karvade külge noa panemisele ega keemiaga keha koorimisele.. ei nende tööde tegemisele mida tunnen, et maailm ei vaja...
jah ainult neile toitudele mis tunduvad vajalikud või mille osas suur kutsumus on hetkeliselt, jah ilusale lauludele, olulisele muusikale, kenadele saadetele, käsipesule, taimetoidule ...jah kõigile austades kuid ikkagi paranduse soovitust kui tundub vaja.... ennast ja maailma analüüsima ja selgemalt nägema panevatele taimedele jah otse muudatustele ja võimalustele kus iganes näen, et maailmas midagi muuta saab, jah loomade mõistmisele ja niipalju kui oskan loodusega suhtlemisele.. jah religioonide tagamõtete austamisele ja emajärgusele..
oh võiks jätkata mõlemas katekoorjas
Seega mida olulist kui kaua veel puudu on.. et nagu selles hinge osas õigesti elama hakata,
kuidagi ei taha traditsioonilist pidi, et nagu kas peab siis alla andma, ja ühiskonna töömassiga liituma.. et siis selline inimene keda soovin jõuab mulle ligemale?
Hmm nii kahtlen selles kuidagi, kuigi samas ise näen ka nii mitut pidi kuidas saab olla nii ja nii ja nii (et tehes seda mis "ei sobi" et jõuab ikka selleni mida vaja.. ja et vb just seda ongi vaja.. kuid. miks miks miks..)
Vot, selline inimene kes kõik need lihtsad küsimused saaks käega ära pühkida, .. või teaks, kes saab (enamasti taimed saavad selle kõigega hakkama, kuid .. )1 February 2015 18:46
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Ingelise Israel: Just, see see raamat on. Mul terve raamat oli pildistatud ja veel mõned, kuid need laadisin sellisele kontole mille olemas olu ma enam ei tea.
Tegin eraldi piraat raamatute konto, ... kuid nii see on.. üks pea on ikka pool pead..
See pääsukese pilt on ühest Eriti iheast võlu ravitsemisega seotud raamatust, kuid suurem osa kõik mu kirjandust jäi maha Londoni ühte keldrisse kus magasin.. (Pakistani töölised lasid maja remondi aegas sisse.. kuid noh see kõik omamoodi pikem lugu).
Igatahes, väga hea raamat, sest jätab mõtte lahtiseks ja suureks veel isegi peale suurt avardumist tava keeli1 February 2015 18:25
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Seda väga keeruline sedasi kirjutada, et eri teadvustega inimesed korraga aru saaksid sellest omal viisil kuid õiges suunasja korraga, seega vist vahest tuleb välja vast hoopis sedasi, et pole ei ühele ega teisele mõistetav... kuid noh.. mingid sõnad ikka teadvusesse selles järjestuses mis vaja.
Olles muudes olekutes muidugi ikka siis on reaalselt naljakas vahest ainuüksi mõelda, et miks peaks keegi üldse soovima üritada midagi Sellist seletada.. kuskil millegi hoopis muus tasemes olevale teadvusele, et ju vast ei ole loodud ega ka võimalik.. kuidma jonnakas, tahan ja tunnen, et peab saama olema võimalik.
Kuigi, selleks vaja üles ehitada terve rida edasi arenevaid tarkusi, et igast "miks, kuidas" küsimustega turvaliselt õigesse kohta välja jõuda, saamaks aru, et (ja siinkohal saavad sõnad otsa ja oskan vaikides aint piibli suunas viivata... et kui see täiesti normaalne ja loogiline tundub, ilma ühegi veata.. siis ... siis pole mõtet jälle muud seletada, sest noh, mis siin ikka.. toimetame edasi.. )
Vabadust jahumise pärast1 February 2015 18:14
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MIks seda kõike rägin
"rõhu ja temperatuuri kõikumistest ning hapniku puudusest tekkinud hallutsinatsioone" EHK aju sattus olekusse kus nägid reaalset
ehk
siis rõhu jms mõjul nagu ka meditatsiooni ja selgemaks tegevate taimede puhul (mis me aju kasutust saab reguleerida õigemaks), et hakkaksime tajuma Muude aju osadega asju mida muidu me ei pruukinud näha
VÕI nemad reguleerisid, sedasime aju neis osi, et me sellel hetkel näeksime VÕI reguleerisid oma olemust selliselt, et meie ajupiiratus suudaks näha - ja seda kõike teha arenenumatel olenditel on lihtne.
Ka treenitud inimesed saavad teise inimese aaju seisundit muuta.1 February 2015 18:07
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Seda nad ikka ei oska seletada miks on võimeline grupp inimesi koos nägema midagi mida ei peaks olemas olema. St nad selle kohta pole vale välja mõelnud veel mis matemaatiliselt sobiks.
Suurem osa inimesi ei teagi ülikoolis, et hallutsinogeene hallutsinatsioon on reaalse asja selgemalt nägemine, ehk sellisel viisil mis ajule tõlgendav (sõnastus pole see kuid põhimõte on sama), need asjad mida deliiriumis nähakse võidakse arvata, et neid päriselt pole olemas. Kuigi nüüd ka selles osas on arvamust, et pole midagi mida pole olemas, kui näed siis on. Kuidas tekkis, kas pandi nägema miks ja kas nähtu sõltub sinust ja palju muid küsimusi veel sobilika alati küsida..
Asi selles, et meelega nimetatakse samamoodi meelte segadust ja psühedeelsetest hallutsinogeenidest rääkides.
Segadus saab tekkida kui taju, mõtte, keemia ja tunnete alustalad aetakse sassi poliitilise partei, väär ravimite, keerutamise, mürkide jms mõjul. Samal ajal kui psühedeelsed hallutsinogeenid (ehk siis Tegelikud hallotsionigeenid mille kõrvalmõju pole teadvuse muutmine selgemaks vaid Ainuke põhimõte miks nad loodud on, on just see.).
Nende asjade vastu ainult need vaimupimedad vaidlevad kelle arusaamad põhinevad nende inimeste uuringutest kes ISE ei ole kasutanud neid asju adekvaatselt. See umbes sama narr kui keegi kes pole orgasmi tajunud prooviks sellest luuletust kirjutada erootilisi filme vaadates tuhandete kaupa. Kirjeldus siis tuleks umbes nagu:
"keha tundus olema krampis ja valus ja nad ei oleks saanud isegi autoga see aeg sõita ega matemaatikat arvutada, järelikult täiesti ebavajalik ja halb asi ühiskonna jaoks" (ja pärast sõltuvus ka, sest näe, tahab veel..)
Kuid kuna see üks iidsemaid asju on mida Rooma ajast alates eriti proovitud maha suruda. Juba sellest kui seda paradiisi siin vallutama hakati, sest oli vaja ära lõigata link reaalsuse vahel ja meile uut reaalsust tooma hakata.
MIks seda räägin, on et kasutatakse sõna hallutsinatsioon ja hallutsinatsiogeen nagu oleks tegu mingite samade asjadega mis toodavad "eba reaalset" kuid tegelikult on hoopis vastupidi, mida tead igaüks kes õigesti, nende asjade kontaktis olnud. Kõik muutub väga selgeks, arusaadavaks ja rahulikuks. Eelkõige, õiges tava kasutamises.
Saad aktiviseerida (vist?) ka oma käbinääret ja palju muud oma peas millega loomingu suurust paremini tajuma hakata. See ka põhjus miks suurem osa rebel hippisi lähevad metsa elama sest nad nägid millised jõud need on kes siin asju ajavad ja aru saanud,et sinna nina (poliitikasse jms) pole mõtet niisama torkida, sest ega nad inimesed ühti sääl ole ainult.
Üks põhi olulisi omadusi nende ainete puhul on, et intellektuaalne või mälu tajumise häire peaks olema minimaalne või olematu. Pigem seda tõstev tuduvalt.
Kuid nagu koolipingis räägitakse mitmes koolis vastupidi.
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"The term psychedelia carries an added reference to psychedelic substance culture, and 'psychedelics' are considered by many to be the 'traditional' or 'classical hallucinogens' including p. cubensis, Mescaline, and LSD. 'A hallucinogen' in this sense broadly refers to any substance which causes perceptual disturbances or hallucinations, while psychedelics carry a positive connotation of general perceptual enhancement."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen
Seega miks seda kõike räägin1 February 2015 18:03
Margus Meigo commented on Aiki Obermann's photo.
IIIU Nagu olin just piltidesse uppumas käsi põsakil..(galeriid..lõpuni...) ja siis pärtsti, surnud liha tuli ekraanile :D
nagu need neti naljad mida nad teevad et (Look et that.. look carefully.. look more...AND POOM! )
nagu need neti naljad mida nad teevad et (Look et that.. look carefully.. look more...AND POOM! )
1 February 2015 14:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
arrrgh.. one other thing to fix in a world ..copright... Right.. yeah right..
"Our automatic content protection system has detected that your track, "Zulfu Kakullerin Amber Misali" (and all others from ERKAN OGUR - By MaviYurek) may contain copyright protected content and we've blocked it from being published on your profile."
Yeah.. do it when you can.. soon ya will not be able to tick people to limit their music by copright ... arrgh..
"Our automatic content protection system has detected that your track, "Zulfu Kakullerin Amber Misali" (and all others from ERKAN OGUR - By MaviYurek) may contain copyright protected content and we've blocked it from being published on your profile."
Yeah.. do it when you can.. soon ya will not be able to tick people to limit their music by copright ... arrgh..
1 February 2015 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Sulle-kes sa kõnnid vaimsel teerajal ja vajad teekaaslast, hingesugulast...
Uurida võib kõike, mida rohkem, seda uhkem
Tänud!1 February 2015 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on Hannah Lore Toomeorg's post.
Group: Sulle-kes sa kõnnid vaimsel teerajal ja vajad teekaaslast, hingesugulast...
Loodan, et teil hästi läks :)1 February 2015 00:44
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Pangu Tamsaare, SuurTõll, Lennard Meri ja Kaika Laine ka siis juba plakatile, kui juba segast panna siis ... aa oot... nad panitki Tammsaare ka .. ahjaa, vaat see ajusse ei tahtnud registreerida (lugesin kirjeldusest praegu uuesti üle..)
NO jah, eks siis jääme huviga ootama mis veel tulemas on..1 February 2015 00:23
Margus Meigo commented on Roheline Kogukond's link.
bad bugs
1 February 2015 00:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Seda, ike seda http://www.jw.org/et/valjaanded/piibel/nwt/raamatud/hoosea/4/ / http://www.piibel.net/sisukord.html?q=Ho+4#q=Ho%204
" Rahva ja preestriga läheb ühtemoodi. Ma nõuan neilt aru nende teede pärast ja saadan nende tegude tagajärjed nende endi peale.+ Nad söövad, aga nende kõht ei saa täis.+ Nad hooravad, aga ei saa lapsi,+ sest nad ei hooli Jehoovast. " Midagi taolist sinna otsa veel, pole küll päris asjakohane tagantjärgi, natuke liiast tundub ülejäänu... aga tol hetkel tundus küll.
(varjandid erinevad aga jutt sama)
" Rahva ja preestriga läheb ühtemoodi. Ma nõuan neilt aru nende teede pärast ja saadan nende tegude tagajärjed nende endi peale.+ Nad söövad, aga nende kõht ei saa täis.+ Nad hooravad, aga ei saa lapsi,+ sest nad ei hooli Jehoovast. " Midagi taolist sinna otsa veel, pole küll päris asjakohane tagantjärgi, natuke liiast tundub ülejäänu... aga tol hetkel tundus küll.
(varjandid erinevad aga jutt sama)
http://www.jw.org/et/valjaanded/piibel/nwt/raamatud/hoosea/4/
31 January 2015 23:41
Margus Meigo commented on Juta Seerma's photo.
Või noh, pigem ütlevad, et saab olema.. ega siin valida siis pole (loodetavasti, kosmiline poliitika oleks vast veel jaburam. kuid kindel on, et kui lipsu kannab siis ikka õige ufuga pole kokku saanud)
31 January 2015 19:44
Margus Meigo commented on Juta Seerma's photo.
Ilusat tuleviku lubavad, oleneb ufadest
Kuid tõsi ta on, targem on ennast ja oma plaane noid arvesse võttes sättida
Kuid tõsi ta on, targem on ennast ja oma plaane noid arvesse võttes sättida
31 January 2015 19:42
Margus Meigo commented on Juta Seerma's post.
Mulle kartulikoored väga meeldivad, kui vähegi võimalus siis keedan, praen ja söön ikka koortega
Ausaltöelda, tundub lausa veider see koorimise komme siin...
Ausaltöelda, tundub lausa veider see koorimise komme siin...
31 January 2015 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on Juta Seerma's post.
Mul jälle igast valmis mõtteid terve korvitäis, ei tea, kas, ehk isegi neist mõned mõelnud... kuid ainult hing on puudu kes sooviks ellu viia
31 January 2015 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Hooseia 4
31 January 2015 15:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Asi ants
31 January 2015 15:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Kurat ise selle saatana soo neab
ja hävitusele seadnud ammu
kuid veel ju Jumal a armust armetud
elavad veel, ...kelle siis veel..
kuid mis elu see on
kuid on seniks,
kuni on
ja hävitusele seadnud ammu
kuid veel ju Jumal a armust armetud
elavad veel, ...kelle siis veel..
kuid mis elu see on
kuid on seniks,
kuni on
31 January 2015 14:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
True story
tibu-tibu ära näita
tibu-tibu ära näita
30 January 2015 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on Janar Einula's post.
et mida ned inimesed teevad ja iseteinud oeld :D
30 January 2015 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on Janar Einula's post.
Tõsi ta on, samamoodi on nägemisega
Et kui hakkad vaimselt nägema.. siis nagu oi kui...
Et kui hakkad vaimselt nägema.. siis nagu oi kui...
30 January 2015 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kas... võib öelda, et see tõsielu ainetel... teeeeegelikult.. ?
30 January 2015 20:46
Margus Meigo commented on Krõõt Tõõrk's photo.
Nagu lenddraakon
30 January 2015 20:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
( actually originaly i got it from http://www.alittleleaven.com/2015/01/are-you-ready-for-the-word.html as other branch of pastors are not so happy about it )
( Church from http://hillsong.com, go and give homies a shout :p )http://www.alittleleaven.com/2015/01/are-you-ready-for-the-word.html
30 January 2015 11:54
Margus Meigo commented on Cecile G. Tamura's post.
Group: The edge of neuroscience and psychology
There should be mendatory brain scan and spiritual scan for all public officials, this should be elementary like you can not go to work when drunk etc30 January 2015 11:22
Margus Meigo commented on Cecile G. Tamura's post.
Group: The edge of neuroscience and psychology
How come this is new, i know that years ago as it was prooven ower and ower again30 January 2015 11:21
Margus Meigo commented on Rak Razam's post.
Group: Shamanic Herbs
True, True30 January 2015 11:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
"Selline pöördumine saadeti nii vene kui inglise keeles kõikidele Donetski sõpruslinnadele." ja kust nad seda teavad, et saadeti neile,
tundub nagu planeeritud uudis ka olema kuidagi,
räägivad veel pikalt emaili aadressist aga kirja ja emaili aadressi ise ei anna.
Noh, vb tõesti delikaatne, aga ma selle meili aadressi tahaks kätte saada nagunii.
Üleüldse linke, kontakt andmeid midagi pole, isegi kirja pole, et nagu mis siin põdeda, tuleb anda seda leiba süüa neile mida küsiti
Välismaa uudist ka selle kohta ei leia
"delikaatne" jah..29 January 2015 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Täis lugu siin: http://pr.pohjarannik.ee/?p=12324
"Narva linnakantselei välissuhete nõunik Vjatšeslav Konovalov teatas Põhjarannikule, et Donetskist saadetud kirja arutati Narva linnapeaga ning tuleb tunnistada, et olukord on delikaatne."
Mis osa sellest kuidas delikaatne on..http://pr.pohjarannik.ee/?p=12324
29 January 2015 22:45
Margus Meigo commented on Magnus Teekivi's post.
Group: Estonian Anonymous
Eks sellel ka oma õigustus29 January 2015 21:52
Margus Meigo commented on Eestimaa Rohelised's post.
..ja bitcoini Taolised asjad ka.. sillicon valley ka asja taolist ajab..
29 January 2015 21:26
Margus Meigo commented on Chris Cox's link.
"..balls being transported from the warm indoors out onto a cold field could have caused them to lose enough pressure to fall below league standards. But Tyson tweeted that to lose as much pressure as the balls did, they would need to be inflated with 125-degree air.":.
mis see arusaama algus ja lõp neil siis oli
mis see arusaama algus ja lõp neil siis oli
29 January 2015 16:08
Margus Meigo commented on Chris Cox's link.
Ma teatsin ,et ta eksis juba kaua aastaid tagasi kui teda kuulsin, kuigi mu üks lemmik teadlasi oma vestlus oskuse suhtes
29 January 2015 16:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Keegi aferist on kogu selle ERR arhiivi vussi keeranud,
saatsin arupärimise mis sigadustega nad seal tegeleda lasevad inimestel.
Vanasti said valida Jaama, Saate ja siis kuupäevaliselt oli kõik listis, nüüd pole midagi enam vanadest saadetest näha.29 January 2015 14:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
See üks kolme tunnine jutuajamine, mp3 saadaval, kuid ikka väärtuslikum kui telekast igapäevase kuulamine usun.29 January 2015 14:28
Margus Meigo commented on Kadi Kadak's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kuid jah, igaüks kes mingeid sümboleid kannab, ega ta mingi Maa esidaja ega vaba mees ei ole küll..29 January 2015 14:24
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
vau, maie nad isegi Jüri Lina mainivad sääl : )
muidugi Aadu osas nad homo asjaga panid suts mööda, sellise profiiliga mees (taime toitlane, kunstnik, visonäär ning riiklikud ideaalid korrapäraseks eluks jms) ta kohe kindlasti miskeid poisse ei käinud kargamas.
Kuid noh, eks on ka võimalus, et keha teisik saadeti tööd tegema..
Saksamaad kasutati ära mustade jõudude poolt läbi oma tuttavate aga teised pooled teadlikult allusid ja tegid tööd node jõududega..
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Kuna tema astus viisnurga ja ühtse orjakontrolli vastu ja enamus maast oli ammu juba vastastel vallutatud, siis tehti ka nendest selline.. ja pandi nad tegema nii et on kohe.. eks nad ise kah, oleks pidanud avalikumalt headuse poolel olema kuid hetkeks hakkasid arvama, et Jumal ainult nende poolel... kes neil käskis Eestlastele käru keerata
(kuid samas, kui nad revi ära poleks võtnud meilt, siis oleks vaenlasel olnud õigus rünnakule tulla ja sama teha mida Berliinis naistega.... nagu tal nüüd varsti on, kui me teised viisnurga väed endale siia kohapeale kutsume, mida teine niiii kaua aega oodanud...)29 January 2015 14:13
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Maie Luus väga asjakohane
Muidugi irooniline veel on, et vikeraar on sümbolina "Jumala Leping" (Moosese Raamatutes)... et nagu nad rsti enda sekka viia ei taha.. kuid siis toovad kohe.. veel karmima põhitõe, mis juba enne risti kokku lepiti..
Ja eks see... kuidas selle Mihklipäevaga oli..
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Lisaks siia vel juurde. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_%28occult_symbol%29
(occult siis tähendab, et mitte enam Ainult tava poliitika ja psühhopoliitikaga ei toimetata, vaid otseste muude maa siseste ja väliste jõududega keda koondada proovitakse enda kasuks kas siis alludes või sundides ... Siinkohal veel tasub vaadata saientoloogide teemat ( http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/psychopolitics.htm ) ja Gurjefiga seotut tasub ka meels hoida... sest tema oli võimeline Stalini aegas reisima kus iganes soovis enamuse aja ja tegema asju mille eest enamus koos kõigi liikmetega oleks mahalaskmisele saadetud ( http://henrymakow.com/2013/08/George-Gurdjieff%20.html )
" There has also often been the suggestion that Gurdjieff and Joseph Dzhugashvili, later known as Stalin, met as young students while attending the same seminary in Tiflis in the Caucasus. Gurdjieff's family records contain information that Stalin lived in his family's house for a while. There are also suggestions that Stalin belonged to an occult "eastern brotherhood," which consisted of Gurdjieff and his followers. - See more at: http://henrymakow.com/2013/08/George-Gurdjieff%20.html#sthash.qJaNJKUn.dpuf "
Sest inimesed siiani, kipuvad ära unustama, et Vanga hoiti meelega tuntud, et tema varjus terve armee taolistega teha suuremaid asju http://fb.me/40kYfaLLi ... ega siis nii naljalt inimmasse zombidena tapma ja vägistama ei saa saata, on vaja natuke vaimumaailmas surkida.. Kuid viisnurgad jah, enamusel neil maadel ,firmadel, arvutitarkvaradel kuni meie elioni "Lemmik" nuppudeni välja, ja see pole juhus, et ilu pärast pandi, või, et südame sümbol polnud käepärast..
Selliseid (mõttega asjade liigutamise) asju proovitakse ära seletada ( http://www.cicap.org/new/articolo.php?id=101003 ) kuid tegelikult pannakse meelega meie ette arusaamatused, et nagu midagi mida saaks vaadata kui pettuse ja midagi mida saab vaadata kui tõena, et siis nad ise korjavad ülesse reageerinute seast, need keda vaja, praegu selliste teemadega tegelevaid riiklike koole ja treeninglaagreid küll venemaal. Mul omal mõned tuttavat käinud ja üks siiani on, pikemal treeningul.
Muidugi kristlik seletus on, et need liigutamised saavad ka nii toimida, et inimeste eest liigutatakse neid asju, kummituse maailma kaudu. (muidugi kes tonti ei usu, sellel teatud mõttes lihtsam, sest siis see usk, et "ei ole", hoiab ka teatud kaitset, sest igast uskumised mis väärad-poolikud on ka nagu augud meie kaitse süsteemis, milel kaudu ligi saab, selle pärast kolli ja trilleri filme vaadata suht ohtlik, sest need on vahest reaalse maagiaga tehtud, just selleks, et su meeltes kanalied avada mille kaudu mõjutada saaks)
(lihtsalt midagi millega sutsu arvestada, meil on siin endiselt, eestis väe taimed ja väed suured.. kui vaid inimesed Läbi Vana Jumala node asjadega oskusliku austusega õigetel põhimõtetel toimetada oskaks (kui muud mõtet ei oska mõelda, mis on "õige" siis võta alustõeks: Õige on see mis armastatud naisele meelepärasem (suures plaanis, lõppude lõpuks, ilusaim lahendus)))http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_%28occult_symbol%29
29 January 2015 13:25
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Lelov's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
just Ahto Lääts, et see Armastus ikka tuleks!29 January 2015 13:23
Margus Meigo commented on Kadi Kadak's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Andrus Leberecht, võimalus on hakata uskuma (Armastama)
(siis ise enesest juurdub kõik ebavajalik välja, umbes nagu ka pigi kopsudes ei vähene kui selle kohta lugeda raamatud, filmi vaadata või teha mis iganes projekte või muid trikke - ükski neist pole nii kiire, odav ja edukas kuid suitsu imemise lõpetamine., ...eks arm võib jääb ikkagi vast kehasse või mällu kuritööst mida keha vastu sai tehtud kuid seda armi siis kasuta targasti, teiste noomimiseks. , aga jah, kõige kindlam viis õnnelikuseni on õigesti elama hakata (sh. väga oluline, mitte alluda vaikides valele, ükskõik kui võimsana ta tundub vaid aidata valel paraneda, juhatada teda tõe juurd, avalikult. Kuni kuskil maailma nurgas enam ühtegi vale järgi jäänud pole, isegi ajaloo muuseumis mitte. ))
Ja kui kellegi jääb muudu millegis osas, arusaamisest, et kuidas on õigesti elamine, siis saab küsida minult, kohe ütlen kuidas vastuse saab.
(tegelikult Sul oli õige tähelepanek, ma nii igaks juhuks moraalitsen, publiku tarvis)29 January 2015 13:22
Margus Meigo commented on Kadi Kadak's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kuid muidu jah, see steriliseerimise asi, Tema päris peremehe poolt pole mingi nalja asi, see neil reaalne plaan ja väga palju relvi selle jaoks tehtud, mida saab õhku puistada, et rahavas välja suretada (eriti ku isa taime tarkust ja vastu rohtu ei tea) .. kuid nad kõigepealt seda peavad naturaalsemana paistma panema.. et näe.. juba enne sünnitasid nii vähe ja siis ei sünnitanud üldse lõpuks...
...õnneks aga narvas jäid inimesed sündima.. ju neil siis õigema rahava juured... (umbes selline plaan on neil nalja teha , juba vilja sees DNA suudeti muuta sedasi, et kui teatud sorti putukas seda sööb siis to enam järglasi ei saa ja siis kahjuri tõrjeks sedasi tehti.. maaaluste inimlaborite katsed pannakse ka käiku kui vaja... kui valmis ollakse.. kui nad teada saanud on, kuidas päriselt maailma juhtida (sest ega roboti ajuga nad siiani pole päris aru saanud paarituhande aastaga, et miks ei toimi... kuid samm sammult jõutakse lähemale..))29 January 2015 12:18
Margus Meigo commented on Kadi Kadak's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
See väga valus nali aga igati hea.
Ja näe, lips ka ikka ees, teadsin kohe, et tema lipsu vabadus on vist ainult kostüüm ja tegelikult kui peremehed ütlevad, et pane lips ette, siis hops hops paneb ka...
õiged eestlased peaksid lipsu VÄGA põlastama.. õnneks me presidendil on munasi jätkunud, et julgenud kikilipsuga olla, päris lipsu mõnitamiseks... ja lennard meri, noh temal tema ajal oli see vabandatav sest ta tegeles muude asjadega ja siis oli vaja, tänapäeval aga enam ei ole vabandatav kanda seda rituaalset koera ketti oma kaelas ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wqd54MwUto )https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wqd54MwUto
29 January 2015 12:15
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Siht ju lükati (naiste, loodus vastaste) Greeka-Rooma koolisüsteemi ja võlts hell-enistliku ususüsteemi jaoks Alexanderi poolt sisse..29 January 2015 12:11
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
sutsu homodes...
ja kuna homodel omavahel lõimumiseks, sõpruskonnaks, pole palju muud vaja kui homo olla, siis suures massis, nad aktiviseeritult saavad ikka väga võimsaid aktsioone isegi ilma oma peremeesteta korda saata, inglisemaal kunagi terveid linna osasi hoitsid nad võimu all ja poliitikuid, hobuse enda suust kuulsin ka.
ja nad nendega pundis kellel raha ja puuduvad moraalid (ehk kes siis inglismaa pantvangi juba üle 1000 aasta tagasi võtsid)
Alguses prooviti ilmselge patuga inimene orgi otsa tõmmata, pedereerides ajudega kuni arusaamad nõrgad ja siis purjus olekus lähenemis katseid teha või siis kui mees emotsionaalselt raskes olukorras on (kuna organiseeriti naise lahkuminek, kuna naistele sisistati teisi valesi...) ...ja ega siis roosas särgis miskid ei hakka ujuma vanasti sulle ukse juurde nad, vaid need ammu paika pandud vanad tuttavad.. kes siis saadetakse lähenemis katsele (enamasti toimub see läbi vaimu maailma kuid otse ka maiselt organiseeritakse)
nii, et siis poliitilisi muutusi vaja teha... ja
kui keegi hakkas kobisema, siis sellele ähvardati teha homo atendaat
ehk siis üksiti on SELGELT selgitada, kuidas nad saavad valega uskuma panna enamus tavarahvast, et keegi oli siivutus olukorras olnud, selleks neil üle riigiline kuulujutu võrgustik juba ammu oli, kes õlle kannu taga aktiviseeritakse, kes muuseas midagi uskumatut ütlevad pidudel või kontoris...ja siis vihased inimesed järsku hakkavad sama juttu igalt poolt kuulma... ja siis mõeldakse "no juu siin ikka midagi oli, kus suitsu seal tuld..."
ja siis veel mõni intelligent paneb ka oma kommentaari.. ja ongi avalik profiil Lordide seas rikutud, kes sellega riskida tahaks teades tavarahva manipuleeritust ja sõprade radikaalsust..
(sest ikka eeldatakse, et enamus ei valeta... kui 10 süüdistavad ja 1 on vastu siis noh..,. matemaatikud ammu selle selgeks teinud)
Kui see ei aita, siis saab SELGITADA (alustuseks) kuidas nad saavad ta panna reaalsesse olukorda kui vaja,
( selleks olemas narkootilised sekunditega uinutavad ained (Datura, Devil's Breath näiteks) ja palju muud, kus saab füüsiliselt kelle iganes ainet näkku puhudes võtta see inimene momentaalselt oma võimusesse ja siis ta omakorda teiste ainetega edasi uinutada ja hommikul koos poisiga ärkama panna selliselt, et seda näeks kindel vastaspool JA siis nad ise pakuvad katust ja kaitset, et teevad kindlaks, et keegi sellest ei räägiks, proper 007 stuff, ( umbes nagu Sajentoloogia, kellel ka suured plaanid siiani maakera osas, sest nad pole üksi, uurige Projekti Snow White.. juba siis oli usa valitsus saamatu nende osas, rääkimata siis praegu kus nende võim mõõtmatult suurem, sest nad otse viisnurgaga tegelevad, aga riik kaudselt viisnurka teenib ise seda teadmatta, kardetakse tunnistada..) )
Ja kui see pole mõjus, siis saab päris homo mafia võtta ja füüsiliselt mees ära häbistada (Eelnevalt talle selgitades, kas ta seda soovib... ja mida ta lastega tehekse kui ta sellest räägib, sest kõiki neid korraga teada ja arreteerida on ju võimatu... mida iganespidi ajaloos proovitud on, nii vene kui saksa kui usa poolt... sest nemad on kõik ühe ja üks kõigi eest, ja meie peaksime ka lisaks ise enda eest olemisele)
(muidugi nad ise õpetavad teistele, et ikka olege individuaalsed orjad... )
Enamasti nad ei pea midagi tegema, selgitavad olukorra tumedas ruumis ära, patsutavad sõbralikult õlale.. ja siis teatud teiste tehnoloogiate kaudu unes olles veel natukene muudetakse ära inimeste eelistusi kui vaja, kuid see juba muu teema, suurem osa on tava maa maailmas toimetatav ja arusaadav.
... panite tähele kuidas iirimaal homo seadus vastu võeti? Paar päeva enne seda lasti ähvarduseks positsioonilt lahti korralik kristlane ja siis anti teada iirimal, et kui te ka sedasi kobisete.. kui saime hakkama inglise poliitikuga siis kui lihtne see veel teiega on... ja kohe, ükshäälselt kardeti, sest usu puudus.
Kuid see kõigest üks dimensioon asjal, on palju muid reaalsusi ja organisatsioone,
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Ja senikaua kui meie siin sõjamängukannidega mängime, siis nemad mõtlevad suts suuremalt asju, ja mitte ainult selle planeedi piires, see siin on ainult väike vihje:
http://www.rexresearch.com/gajarev/gajarev.htm
kuid kindlasti proovige ka nendele raamatutele ligi saada: http://www.vadimbirstein.com/books.html
Ja pidage meeles, et Alexander Dugin ammu juba joonistas kaardi, kus nad EI hakka avalikult seda kohta siin üle võtma (sest siin ammu juba 300 000 sees kelle sisse nad saavad signaali saata...) , sest see on võimatuks osutunud meie vaimu väimsuse pärast mida Vana Jumalalt isiklikult meile antud, kuid nad saavad meid ennast oma maalt ära meelitada, oma väärtusi lahjendama panna, ja aksepteerima asju "euroopalike väärtusi" mis meid Jumalast eemaldab ja siis neil legaalne õigus tulla ja teha veel palju rohkemat kui vanasti... (euroopa on ka venemaa ja muu visnurkade projekt, seda vaja ka meeles hoida, kogu haridussüsteem on ka, sest kui nad ette kirjutavad kuidas me mõtlema ja käituma peame siis nad alati teatud eelisega, sest suudavad ette aimata, mida me tõenäoliselt teeme..).
Kui meil ei oleks siin vanal ajal tarku naisi olnud, kes oskasid loodusega suhelda, siis me siin ammu enam ei räägiks isegi teoreetiliselt võimalusest kogu maailm korda saada (ahjaa, me kogu maailma peame samas suunas puhastama, mitte ainult oma koduga piirduma.. kuid Headusega Ainult)
Ahjaa, homofoobia on lollus, seda nad kasutavad meie vastu (ja homode enda vastu ka, sest noh.. need on need õnnetud kehad keskui oma misiooni täitnud siis kas neid enam vaja läheb...)
Kuid mu oma kadi mees Ehala laulis... otsi lolli kes ei kardaks..http://www.rexresearch.com/gajarev/gajarev.htm
29 January 2015 12:08
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
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Ma arvan, et suurem osa inimesi kes poolt ja vastu on, neil pole õrna aimugi kui suur ja sügav plaan see homo teema on,
see ikka üle 2000 aastane plaan, vähemalt29 January 2015 11:29
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnu Kaur's post.
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Ja radar näitab ka õiges suunas,
Muidugi see otse valmimise süsteem tuleb meil IT vallas käiku panna, see oleks otse valimistega kuningriik, kus tarkuse järgi rahvas alt ülesse valib kohalikud maavanemad kellel on päris väärtused ja kes otsustama hakkavad keda lasta mis osas kuningriigis otsustada. Mida vähem erinevaid nägusi kõige kõrgemal seda parem.
Nendel on ka kohustus informeerida rahvast miks keegi ebapädev ja ainult akadeemilise tarkusega siin kaugele ei jõua, seni kuni kooli algklassidest saati taime tarkust sh loodushoidu, toidu kasvatust ja kodu ülesehitust ei märgata õpetada.
Ainiti kirjatundmisest on ka vähe abi.
Siis meil miskid "matemaatikud" juhedavad kes oskavad kenasi tabeleid joonistada pulgakestega kuid aru ei saa mis kasu paiselehestki on. Seega oleks looduses omapead täiesti kasutu, seega ta ei tea mida päris eluks (500-5000 aasta plaanis) vaja läheb. Seega las tegeleb nende aladega mis talle sobilik kuni kasvab, looduses on igal asjal oma koht.
Kaitseväest oleks ka lugematu kordi rohkem kasu kui ta 3 aastat õpetaks majade ehitust meestele sh ehitaksid tasuta palk maju puude niisama maha lõhkumise asemel, need majad vabastaksid meid ka panga orjusest 50 aasta jooksul. Siis 5% riigi eelarveks kuluks ära ilusti, saaks kivi katuse ka peale tasuta.
Ning võõrvägede eemalhoidmiseks meil muud targad mehed kes ilma kohaliku naglade ärplemiseta oma mängukannidega, saaksid palju paremini oma tööd tehtud ja nii norra kui hiina oma kohal hoitud.
Välis turule peaksime suunama ELIIT kaubana oma musta leiva, kohukesed, hapukoore, musta sokolaadi, kama, käsitöö, kalja jms millel vaieldamatult oleks eliit kaubana piisavalt turgu niipalju, et hea kui me toota piisavalt jõuaksime, kui vaid õiges paketis ennast esidada oskame (matemaatikud muidugi ei oska, sest naad mõõdavad numbrites kui mitu korda me väiksemad, päriselt ka mõõdavad... ). Kui keegi eliit välismüügi hinnaga ei soovi osta, siis las ostab kohaliku Avatud Turu süsteemi kaudu talunikelt või seleverist ise, vahendajate kaudu kes selleks määratud.
Ja selline totter jutt, see manipulatsioon, et riigile on kuidagi kahjulik kui siin on vähem inimesi, et lausa peame mujalt sisse tooma, on nii arulage, et see on müstiline, kuidas selliseid matemaatikuid üldse lastakse eetrisse, ravile tuleks saata.
Praeguse rahva arvukohta meil on siin alla 30 ruutmeetri inimese kohta kui sood ja metsad KA arvestada, kui ainult põllu ja elamis maad arvestada siis numbrid püha väikesed. (ega kõike maad ka ei tohi kasutada, osa peab Sookollidele ja Niidu Haldjatele ka jääma ...sest on igast muid maailmu, millega peab arvestama kui pikas plaanis liigina alles jääda soovime. ).
Või on plaan, et pooled Eestlased jäävatki suures osas nagu narrid, kuskile virtuaalsese paneel maja karpi, õhku, elama? Et kuskil õhusees on kellegil oma 30 ruutu ja käib kah seni kuni ülejäänud karp koos püsib kuidagi (mis on kindlasti vähem kui 100 aastat veel). Ei ole isegi oma õunapuud.
Igasugune poliitiline demokraatja jant tuleks ka ära lõpetada, ammu juba peaksime olema aru saanud, et viisnurk on viisnurk, kui kellegi sõjaväe sümbolil on pentagramm peal siis me siia appi kutsuda tahame teda, teise pentagrami eest kaitsma, elades ise pentagrammi sees (euro raha tähti olete ju silmitsenud küll eks..). Narr ju,
See narrus tuleb seljast maha pühkida, ja aru saada, et see Püha Maarjamaa ala ja ammu enne seda veel püham kui me arvata oskame, ega meil siis meie tukid pole me lastel hinge sees ja vaimu selgena hoidnud.
Kui me avalikult altpoolt ka mõistma andma ei hakka, et me saame aru küll, sellest aasta tuhandete pikkusest maarahvaste hävitus plaanidest mida siin täheinimesed korraldanud on, juba sellest ajast saati kui siin Akaatlased Sumeritega "lõimuma" hakkasid.
(kuna ma pole seda kirjakuntsti ise õppinud rohkem kui selle ilma jaoks hädavajaliku edasi andmise tarvis, siis kui kellegil huvi võib mulle saata kenamas kirjapildis mu oma kirjutise, siis saan siin selle väljavahetada.)29 January 2015 11:24
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnu Kaur's post.
29 January 2015 10:17
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
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ila st, mitte juttu29 January 2015 01:13
Margus Meigo commented on Mai Lee's post.
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Menetlust ei peaks avaldama aga Sund ravile peaks kohe kindlasti saatma ja kui ei soovi minna ravile siis riigi vastaseks kuulutada, sest ta meie maa kõige olulisema osa vastu on kätt tõstnud,
ja siis oma küla mehed võid veel vasta tatti ka anda kui hakkab miskit "ulin unine ja ei teadnud mida tegin, ise tuli mind torkima" juttu ajama29 January 2015 01:13
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnu Kaur's post.
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Ma isegi ei teadnud, et rohelised veel olemas on29 January 2015 01:08
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnu Kaur's post.
29 January 2015 01:04
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's link.
And if they would only know.. my dream was to save the capitalism, just for sake of it!
28 January 2015 23:24
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's link.
This news from CNN.Money, is like ending up in paralel Universe
28 January 2015 23:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
LIssten ALL this CNN International videos!
Seriously, this is like ending up in paralel universe (well.. probabaly it is as also one of my own country richest business mann was on investigetive state television , campaining for politics, and from my harsh error and critisism looking eye and ears He sounded and looked good,... am was a bit suprised, how that was happaning.. and now this!? ... seriouslly. .. calm..calm..calm.. God that am have not been tripped for long long time or this would count as flashback :p )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz9yZFtRJjk (also related videos, but look the CNN page first)
http://money.cnn.com/technology/sex-drugs-silicon-valley/
Seriously, this is like ending up in paralel universe (well.. probabaly it is as also one of my own country richest business mann was on investigetive state television , campaining for politics, and from my harsh error and critisism looking eye and ears He sounded and looked good,... am was a bit suprised, how that was happaning.. and now this!? ... seriouslly. .. calm..calm..calm.. God that am have not been tripped for long long time or this would count as flashback :p )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz9yZFtRJjk (also related videos, but look the CNN page first)
http://money.cnn.com/technology/sex-drugs-silicon-valley/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz9yZFtRJjk
28 January 2015 23:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
28 January 2015 23:05
Margus Meigo commented on Elijah Grayson's link.
about that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santo_Daime
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santo_Daime
28 January 2015 20:38
Margus Meigo commented on Elijah Grayson's link.
True David,
and if they pray to god before death they might have end up with the best moment in their life as they got where is needed.
Read all the comments: http://disinfo.com/2013/05/inside-santa-fes-ayahuasca-based-church/
and if they pray to god before death they might have end up with the best moment in their life as they got where is needed.
Read all the comments: http://disinfo.com/2013/05/inside-santa-fes-ayahuasca-based-church/
http://disinfo.com/2013/05/inside-santa-fes-ayahuasca-based-church/
28 January 2015 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on Elijah Grayson's link.
yes they are
28 January 2015 20:09
Margus Meigo commented on Elijah Grayson's link.
it is all fake,
28 January 2015 20:06
Margus Meigo commented on Elijah Grayson's link.
LIke if they would REALLY be religious, why would they make show of it ?
28 January 2015 20:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"Saudi state television blurred out Michelle as a camera showed the First Couple approaching Saudi Arabia’s new sexist-ass king, Salman, who acted as if she wasn’t there. And according to this video, she wasn’t ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL7rFEYtM_M ). But the information director at the Saudi embassy in Washington, as well as CNN’s Nic Robertson in Riyadh, both said Michelle wasn’t blurred at the time they were watching."
"So while her husband is obliged to say nice things about Abdullah and be respectful because of geopolitics, Michelle is under no such obligation. Hence, the giving of zero fucks."
"Not only that, instead of wearing black at the funeral, she wore a blue blouse and a festive-looking blue-sweater jacket of sorts that could double as a spring getup for a leisurely stroll through the National Arboretum before a boozy brunch."
"So while her husband is obliged to say nice things about Abdullah and be respectful because of geopolitics, Michelle is under no such obligation. Hence, the giving of zero fucks."
"Not only that, instead of wearing black at the funeral, she wore a blue blouse and a festive-looking blue-sweater jacket of sorts that could double as a spring getup for a leisurely stroll through the National Arboretum before a boozy brunch."
28 January 2015 19:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Komentaar:
Andrew Banks: It's actuwaly hilarious reading some of the coments by Republicans about this on AOL. They just don't know whos side to be on.
Andrew Banks: It's actuwaly hilarious reading some of the coments by Republicans about this on AOL. They just don't know whos side to be on.
28 January 2015 19:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
probabaly is
28 January 2015 18:34
Margus Meigo commented on Lori Bryan's post.
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LAMO @ Kais Khemiri28 January 2015 18:24
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
that explains
28 January 2015 18:24
Margus Meigo commented on Lori Bryan's post.
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At least She wears the colors nad symbols of my nation, and that is good!28 January 2015 11:41
Margus Meigo commented on Lori Bryan's post.
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lol the guy on the left looked with spessialy tall towel, then i noticed it is just a mirage.. :D28 January 2015 11:40
Margus Meigo commented on Lori Bryan's post.
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obama is like "Yo maaan, this my bjeaach! U got on it anything to say punks"28 January 2015 11:39
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
what a trickery, first a women picture with unbelivable heading and then..
well, great balls indeed
(but he looks a bit morphined up thought and not so happy about it)
well, great balls indeed
(but he looks a bit morphined up thought and not so happy about it)
28 January 2015 11:38
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
ooh... or they mean "the secreds" about kids that they have collected for human development across all social, cable and cell networks ... yes... that might be terrifing if familyes find out the human experiments that are on going on mass scale to keep up with soviet, eu and china human and child experiments
that will freak out some texas dady so much that will first go and put hes colt in a good use with first governer one meets
that will freak out some texas dady so much that will first go and put hes colt in a good use with first governer one meets
28 January 2015 11:33
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
this is like the most failed statement am ever heard "steal our trade secrets or invade the privacy of American families, especially our kids"
I mean, i am all pro obama but that just sounds retarded
Like hackers wanna steal the kids Angry Birds scores or .. like what kind or privacy "the kids" has what hackers wanna to invade about what Goverment is conserned about, SPECIALLY more then about trade secrets and infrastructure networks?
LIke they can access our defence network and initiate our own bombs against "our own" people!!! " Screww that, look out for my dautghter selfies and angry birds scores!!! "
Was this realy told like that, i have to almoust hear the audio to make sure how that sounded. Lucky i am short of my internet data allowance so am not able to do it.probabaly
This is hard to crasp the wideness of hypocrasy of that statement specialy with my vocaboraly, but had to try at least.
I mean, i am all pro obama but that just sounds retarded
Like hackers wanna steal the kids Angry Birds scores or .. like what kind or privacy "the kids" has what hackers wanna to invade about what Goverment is conserned about, SPECIALLY more then about trade secrets and infrastructure networks?
LIke they can access our defence network and initiate our own bombs against "our own" people!!! " Screww that, look out for my dautghter selfies and angry birds scores!!! "
Was this realy told like that, i have to almoust hear the audio to make sure how that sounded. Lucky i am short of my internet data allowance so am not able to do it.probabaly
This is hard to crasp the wideness of hypocrasy of that statement specialy with my vocaboraly, but had to try at least.
28 January 2015 11:30
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
When am was on UK it was pretty chinning to see that all the news reports had been taken ower and it was linke plastic copy of BBC with fake aksents to make it sound eastern.
Even the translators had the trained aksent that was degrading.
But yeah... it is easy to do in digital age. Not sure if it was in whole world Aljazeera or just the broadcast barnch they tested in UK that time,
as weeks before that there was coming some real materail (slow based, warm colors, serious deep storyes with spiritual-religious touch)
Even the translators had the trained aksent that was degrading.
But yeah... it is easy to do in digital age. Not sure if it was in whole world Aljazeera or just the broadcast barnch they tested in UK that time,
as weeks before that there was coming some real materail (slow based, warm colors, serious deep storyes with spiritual-religious touch)
28 January 2015 11:24
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
Wen tuned in to https://soundcloud.com/user48736353001/8-utopia
My cat was like "Thisis interesting, what is that, let me smell it"
And then turn to play with plants like with kittins
Probabaly normal thing to happen when hearing aphex (not sure why am read it as antrax first)
My cat was like "Thisis interesting, what is that, let me smell it"
And then turn to play with plants like with kittins
Probabaly normal thing to happen when hearing aphex (not sure why am read it as antrax first)
https://soundcloud.com/user48736353001/8-utopia
28 January 2015 11:20
Margus Meigo commented on Elijah Grayson's photo.
man, grow a long beard as well.. it fts u and helps to be grounded in to most important of Life
(but in Greek-Roman orders up to now most people afraid and lack a confidence to become ower per pressure that tells them to cut a beard by making jokes about it and demanding even... but benafit is great )
(but in Greek-Roman orders up to now most people afraid and lack a confidence to become ower per pressure that tells them to cut a beard by making jokes about it and demanding even... but benafit is great )
28 January 2015 08:39
Margus Meigo commented on Elijah Grayson's link.
And they are teligios, thes people on the picture, mostly
28 January 2015 08:34
Margus Meigo commented on Elijah Grayson's link.
Have yo uever thinking, why would they see so much trouble with this so called excecutions
28 January 2015 08:33
Margus Meigo commented on Transcend Politics, Embrace Humanity's photo.
THis is so sad "we need engineers who build STUFF" xD
28 January 2015 08:31
Margus Meigo commented on Gilda Trinidad's post.
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comes handy27 January 2015 19:47
Margus Meigo commented on Gloria Samson's post.
Group: The Holy Souls In Purgatory Prayer Warriors
on the name of Jehovah (jesus father and mother who made him)27 January 2015 19:46
Margus Meigo commented on Immaculate Immy's post.
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Yes27 January 2015 19:44
Margus Meigo commented on Mudasser Ilyas's post.
Group: Tell the truth about Islam, Judaism, Christianity, and other religions
THe same that 162 did to jews... on on 70AD... and27 January 2015 19:40
Margus Meigo commented on Jean J. Stuart's post.
Group: Tell the truth about Islam, Judaism, Christianity, and other religions
Why to even ask something so wrong ?
Seriuslly,27 January 2015 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on Sayyed Misbah's post.
Group: Tell the truth about Islam, Judaism, Christianity, and other religions
Really simple, the one Allah told in Koran that You must belive to be a Ayesha Muslimah
if you lack trust in Allah and do not think that ones work is suffessiant, the most worthy book he has made for a global population: Bible,
then how can You even imagine to be true religious on Gods eyes?
Why You think Allah composed most of the story in a Koran from a Bible ? One would have willed to chnage history and remove memory of it from us if needed, but it was SO needed, that You would look up bible and learn a Jehovah version of bible (the one with cross reference on every page) proper so more doors in your heart and mind can be opened, how you think you can be saved if you not learn the basics from Bible?
If Koran would have alone suffisiant for all then Allah would not made Bible as a major book. Also, after that we must go to the REALLY smart people, proper jews, Torah and learn what they gotta say, if you lack love for a god and scripture people then you lack love for greation.
You should make sure, that Jew is proper jew and Christain would be as christian as possible by sharing knowledge to them, how to even be better. To help, not plot against anyone anythng... as the plot of satan has been weak one, always27 January 2015 19:31
Margus Meigo commented on Krishna Kumar Gupta's post.
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And you know, in the end, we goot love even these beings who use us as cattle, ... this is the final test.. after you have find out how they rape your family and children of thousands of years with no merchy and have NO good wil to keep you alive.. you gotta approatc Them also with a love and understaning, by helping them... really helping27 January 2015 19:23
Margus Meigo commented on Krishna Kumar Gupta's post.
Group: Tell the truth about Islam, Judaism, Christianity, and other religions
As am telling, these people are as much of an God people as Hellenists are Chistians. (Hellenists can not be a chistians as they look world from Greek eyes)
NO, we are not experiencing nothing "since in the year 712" - was these also "muslims" who caused a death ower million on 70s and year 162 over a half a million people massicared?
NO it was not, it was SAME power that has made "revolutions" up to now, they can take christain clothing or muslim, communism, capitalism, five star or indian, but they are still SAME. They also took our wifes.
You can see how they work, it is same methods of international manipulation as it has always been. NOmands, Wikings, final owertake of England and making of rusia.
There has been OWER 700 yeas of well structured Homo Alexander Greek-Roman global millitary sturctures in all major countryes on the time of Muslim revolt. Same way they have been taking ower Christianty they have been tring to take ower Islam (after partly helping to invate it some say, but hey, all is still in a plan of God)
BY defination, the religous people who know A god, will not take a part of an massecure of civilians, it is simply IMPOSSIBLE.
God has put many writings in text so they can be picked up by less smart as justification to murder but it is only for a reason, so we can know more easy, who is who. And by trusting god react on it, between ALL people. As long we not react between All people and in our group FOR all, then we are always able to be manipulated against someone imaginary, usually our self.
You know, 70AD and 162AD is about 1.6 million people, this is about 1/5th of theyr population or in todays population 30million,
But thy keep inventing german involvement as major infuence on last massecure, so no one would talk about what has been happened in past, ALL the time, as this is the biggest trouble, the religious people, and the nature people, as group of Earth Lovers knows, God is here and invaders are also, who appear as humans but they use body only, ... so you can not kill them physically.. like many head dragon.. can only be cleaned spiritually by behaving AS proper god children. ALL the time..
To blame "russians" or "Jews" or "muslims" or who ever you take, is the maiin aim of the star people, ... and yes, they are in everywhere almoust where You look, they are part of your "friends" who runs whit you when some one attacks and part of the ones who protect you and support when you want to attack, death is game for them.. final goal is for them to score with a women when let normal man to kill each other off as much as possible, or turn in to homos, ... so they can have Her, whit who they can access a wast universe be on our imaginaton, in so low level, where we use these pages here.. (okey, perhaps there is exceptions, for sure more in coming days)
Sorry for to much text
Just how can ANYONE in news be so blind and say, that there excists a religious murderer? Just by doing that act they have to obandan the religion and as Koran says, the ones who jump on and off from beliefs to fullfill hes own goals and for manipulation, for them are the whrst and their excuses will not be talorated and they will get the whorst punishments (the ones who pretend religion or know the tryth and still do bad)
http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/expulsions.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_antisemitismhttp://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/expulsions.html
27 January 2015 19:21
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's link.
Sounds good, the name , but is inside good also ?
..limited data right now, not sure if am can hear
..limited data right now, not sure if am can hear
27 January 2015 17:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
home land home land27 January 2015 17:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
But as they are honest, we do not neet to worry: https://sites.google.com/site/waffad/home/Weather_Weapon_Treaty.pdf?attredirects=0&d=1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_modification27 January 2015 17:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
"I saw these blue lights last night. My girlfriend and I went to the convenience store around 6PM during the snow storm and then as soon as we got to the store we stared noticing the blue lights. They flashed about 3 times between getting to the store and getting home. This could be a weather anomaly of some sort, but I have never seen flashing blue lights like that during a snow storm and I've lived through many a snow storms here in the northeast. What ever these blue lights were they had an uncanny awe about them that both me and my girl felt."
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread195435/pg1
related some how
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/10feb_friendlyskies/
"The origin of TGFs is still a mystery, but researchers know this much: TGFs are associated with thunderstorms and lightning. "We think the electric field in a thunderstorm may get so strong that the storm itself turns into a gamma-ray factory," says Dwyer. "But we don't know exactly how or why or where inside the storm this happens.""
" Although TGFs are quite brief (1-2 milliseconds), they appear to be the most energetic events on Earth. They belch destructive gamma-rays packing over ten million times the energy of visible light photons – enough punch to penetrate several inches of lead.
"It's amazing," says Jerry Fishman, a co-investigator for the Gamma-ray Burst Monitor. "They come blasting right through the whole Fermi spacecraft and light up all of our detectors. Very few cosmic gamma-ray bursts manage to do this!" "http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread195435/pg1
27 January 2015 16:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
Well, last year, they was busy making snowmans in Japan:
"The freak storm dumped more than 1.1 meters of snow in Yamanashi prefecture in central Japan, the most in more than a century of record-keeping, and lesser amounts across a wide swathe of the eastern and northeastern parts of the nation. Tokyo was hit by 27 cm (10.6 inches).
By Tuesday, least 23 people had died"
( http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/18/us-japan-snow-idUSBREA1H0BG20140218 )
"Normally the Snow is falling only in the East Side of Japan,
in the middle are big Mountains, Tokyo get Snow once a Year
but this Year is very different!"http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/18/us-japan-snow-idUSBREA1H0BG20140218
27 January 2015 16:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
it slike millitary people are obeing other mans orders.27 January 2015 16:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
yeha, that what am was thinkng when looking the material27 January 2015 16:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
lucky , that You live in Old England
http://www.weather.com/storms/winter/news/winter-storm-juno-blizzard-boston-nyc-new-england
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/28/us/snow-storm-new-england.html?_r=0http://www.weather.com/storms/winter/news/winter-storm-juno-blizzard-boston-nyc-new-england
27 January 2015 16:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
haha thats the way to rooool Nana Kojo yo, neeh, not coming now, take time to escape from there like a year last time :D
but yea .. spider there was some strange pictures of your new love life in internet... be careful, Eye knows and sees All27 January 2015 16:08
Margus Meigo commented on Dale Tuggy's post.
Group: Tell the truth about Islam, Judaism, Christianity, and other religions
WHat does it matter?
More importent is that You realize what reallity it is who is talked about when talked about hes faters27 January 2015 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on Krishna Kumar Gupta's post.
Group: Tell the truth about Islam, Judaism, Christianity, and other religions
I do not want to real really people tell "suffer of Islamic Terrorism" as it does not excist.
These people are as much islamic as hellenists are christians. Or as Greek-Romans are human lovers27 January 2015 15:51
Margus Meigo commented on I Speak of Truth and Love's post.
all humans are your priorty in order that god will bring them to you , up to the point you meet ur huspand,
and ur parents is always ,to the death, prirty
and ur parents is always ,to the death, prirty
27 January 2015 15:35
Margus Meigo commented on I Speak of Truth and Love's post.
Jup,
Bu they meant: You have a friend, if YOU say good things about these people when they are not aroud
Bu they meant: You have a friend, if YOU say good things about these people when they are not aroud
27 January 2015 15:32
Margus Meigo commented on I Speak of Truth and Love's photo.
unless these strugless have limited you to reach the potention who you could be sooner
27 January 2015 15:29
Margus Meigo commented on I Speak of Truth and Love's post.
For me?
27 January 2015 15:27
Margus Meigo commented on I Speak of Truth and Love's photo.
well and youwant with a random people, who you know not about, end up in same meditation and energy, thought network level by looking at same thing with no other ideas then hoping that someone is looking it.. hmm
27 January 2015 15:27
Margus Meigo commented on I Speak of Truth and Love's photo.
If YOU care, YOU show, if You do not, YOU are not worth THEIR time,
this is more true, as they might have reasons you have no idea about,
Maybe they saw an alien who todl them that you are possesed wich who want to take hes sould but if he tells about it to anyone, they will eliminate all memory and family of him and who he loves including You
this is made up scenario brut pretty comon
this is more true, as they might have reasons you have no idea about,
Maybe they saw an alien who todl them that you are possesed wich who want to take hes sould but if he tells about it to anyone, they will eliminate all memory and family of him and who he loves including You
this is made up scenario brut pretty comon
27 January 2015 15:25
Margus Meigo commented on I Speak of Truth and Love's photo.
Wrong
27 January 2015 15:24
Margus Meigo commented on I Speak of Truth and Love's post.
finance
27 January 2015 15:24
Margus Meigo commented on I Speak of Truth and Love's post.
Yes, like TV, army and
27 January 2015 15:23
Margus Meigo commented on TeraBug's note.
OKey, the comments on facebook wall psots is not really in the file, what is that all about ??
27 January 2015 11:46
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's life event.
EI nu ongi õige, et inimesed kihluvad ikka päris elus mitte facebookis!
eesti värk .P
eesti värk .P
26 January 2015 23:00
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's life event.
WOU ! Niiii Vahva !!!!
Väike meeldetuletus Kristjanile....
http://www.wikihow.com/Love-Your-Wife-According-to-the-Bible ja veelkord, üle elu lõpmatuseni kulgevat kooslust igas ilma ruumis!
Väike meeldetuletus Kristjanile....
http://www.wikihow.com/Love-Your-Wife-According-to-the-Bible ja veelkord, üle elu lõpmatuseni kulgevat kooslust igas ilma ruumis!
http://www.wikihow.com/Love-Your-Wife-According-to-the-Bible
26 January 2015 20:11
Margus Meigo commented on Angel Mercedes's post.
Group: Linux Friends
NY is Gaga favortie city
(marry with the dark song was deiticated on it)26 January 2015 20:04
Margus Meigo commented on Angel Mercedes's post.
Group: Linux Friends
Get this underground upen to light!26 January 2015 20:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d0vtFja9GE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d0vtFja9GE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d0vtFja9GE
26 January 2015 17:44
Margus Meigo commented on Alar Ehala's photo.
Hea pilt!
(kuigi ma lipsude suhtes alergiline)
(kuigi ma lipsude suhtes alergiline)
26 January 2015 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Mis mõttes kommentaare pole, on ikka!
Kuid jah, lenda lenda tuvikene!
Kuid jah, lenda lenda tuvikene!
26 January 2015 12:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ups tahtsin sulle jagada @ Allar Kaljundi kuid jõudis siia hoopis
26 January 2015 09:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Uid see ka hea:
https://soundcloud.com/tahtlauri/lauri-taht-ats-luik-vari-tiks-edit
( sandri konto ka: https://soundcloud.com/sander head sääl ka)
https://soundcloud.com/tahtlauri/lauri-taht-ats-luik-vari-tiks-edit
( sandri konto ka: https://soundcloud.com/sander head sääl ka)
https://soundcloud.com/tahtlauri/lauri-taht-ats-luik-vari-tiks-edit
25 January 2015 22:05
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Aurik's post.
Group: Tutvused suhted(18+)
Päris huvitav :D
Õnne ja edu Sulle!25 January 2015 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
*in a head
25 January 2015 17:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Eight People Sipping Wine in Kettering
https://vimeo.com/75784765
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x17b3nc_the-century-of-the-self-eight-people-sipping-wine-in-kettering-4_news
https://vimeo.com/75784765
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x17b3nc_the-century-of-the-self-eight-people-sipping-wine-in-kettering-4_news
https://vimeo.com/75784765
25 January 2015 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
There is Policeman Inside all our Heads He Must Be Destroyed
https://vimeo.com/104802555
https://vimeo.com/104802555
https://vimeo.com/104802555
25 January 2015 17:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The Engineering of Consent
https://vimeo.com/103440000
https://vimeo.com/103440000
https://vimeo.com/103440000
25 January 2015 17:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Happynes Machine
https://vimeo.com/96535626
https://vimeo.com/96535626
https://vimeo.com/96535626
25 January 2015 17:11
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
ja ta mehe nimi ?
25 January 2015 15:58
Margus Meigo commented on Hallo, Kosmos!'s photo.
Teistkorda, mis selle mehe arhetüüpide raamatu nimi oli?
25 January 2015 15:55
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
proovin nüüd leida kuhu ma terve selle saamatu ülesse laadisin.. eks teil kui soovi, andke teada, raamat on kindlasti väärt ja sügavalt ühendatud .. kui vaid selle konto leiaksin mille kaudu netti panin tolle.
Igatahes päris tõsine ja ilus see Song of Eve, soovitan : )
Igatahes päris tõsine ja ilus see Song of Eve, soovitan : )
25 January 2015 15:26
Margus Meigo commented on Hallo, Kosmos!'s photo.
NIng teatud pidi veel oluliselt seotud selline raamat mida proovige saada, eriti kui plaanite lapsi selles maailmas saada
https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=3a383b8cc1d03d22&id=3A383B8CC1D03D22!6047&ithint=folder,.jpg&authkey=!AI8VioQOKAn2fN4
https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=3a383b8cc1d03d22&id=3A383B8CC1D03D22!6047&ithint=folder,.jpg&authkey=!AI8VioQOKAn2fN4
25 January 2015 15:20
Margus Meigo commented on Hallo, Kosmos!'s photo.
Ka meeldiv raamat mis mul digitud sai sellel teemal aga suuremalt:
https://plus.google.com/photos/+MargusWaffa/albums/5973637021151408305
https://plus.google.com/photos/+MargusWaffa/albums/5973637021151408305
https://plus.google.com/photos/+MargusWaffa/albums/5973637021151408305
25 January 2015 14:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Yeah, they find any kind of excuse in any country, to invent a opposites, that was not there before...making it. Like almoust EVERY country in world that has possible to have army they have made one "for protection from bad ones" ... how come .. everyone...has the enemy..
25 January 2015 10:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
25 January 2015 10:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
25 January 2015 10:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
25 January 2015 09:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
25 January 2015 09:21
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek J's link.
said müüdud?
Siin ka veel võimalust:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/174745602731856/
Siin ka veel võimalust:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/174745602731856/
Jalgrataste Ost/Müük
24 January 2015 20:38
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
late for that, now they scan your soul
24 January 2015 20:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Üheltpoolt näib, et pentagramm teiselt poolt, saab ka olla moonutatud hea.
Meil endal oli ka õige, uue nõukogude liidu taastamise eeskiri valmimas, kahju, et ära kadus (vist)
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressum_%28meediaklubi%29 (Nõu-Kogu-de-Liit on väga hea, kuid ainult siis kui seda nõu selles kogus Eestimeelsed annavad)
Meil endal oli ka õige, uue nõukogude liidu taastamise eeskiri valmimas, kahju, et ära kadus (vist)
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressum_%28meediaklubi%29 (Nõu-Kogu-de-Liit on väga hea, kuid ainult siis kui seda nõu selles kogus Eestimeelsed annavad)
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressum_%28meediaklubi%29
24 January 2015 20:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
See vastus saab olla kas Väga hea või Väga kõrgel tasemel midagi muud, see oleneb sellest kas olla vaakumis või selges südamed
24 January 2015 20:24
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's link.
24 January 2015 19:53
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's link.
Leetrid, palju jubedam ikka kui sügelised
24 January 2015 19:51
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's link.
KUid nagu ene kui keegi ütleb, et "eestis.. pla pla " sis võiks kõrvale tuua kui mitu riiki nad teavad olema, kus see nii pole ja kas on mõned meie "standardis" riigid, kus see nii pole. Kapitalism ise ongi ju orjanduse ja röövimise sümbioos
Religioosne arusaam (kord) on ainuke mille alusel saaks vabalt toimetada. Kus iga üks aitab oma konkurenti, sest eesmärk on üks (toita pere ning lastele parem Tulevik).
Religioosne arusaam (kord) on ainuke mille alusel saaks vabalt toimetada. Kus iga üks aitab oma konkurenti, sest eesmärk on üks (toita pere ning lastele parem Tulevik).
24 January 2015 19:47
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's link.
wao, see päris raske,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles#Recent_outbreaks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles#Recent_outbreaks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles#Recent_outbreaks
24 January 2015 19:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
and who was this crazy Londoner jumping this robber whit a machete,
that was bad aas (they show that in TV here as well)24 January 2015 19:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
Nana Kojo u on it?24 January 2015 19:02
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
hahahaha
even whorst, try to explain that in a future economy class, to 3rd garders .. but am sure they invent some explenations, they have so far...
even whorst, try to explain that in a future economy class, to 3rd garders .. but am sure they invent some explenations, they have so far...
24 January 2015 18:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
24 January 2015 16:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
So CIA and special operation Armey plans among others was to scare germans and soviets that USA guys have huge dicks and to turn Hitler in to femine by smuggeling femine hormones in to hes food...
This is not even a joke, true story, it seems
This is not even a joke, true story, it seems
24 January 2015 15:49
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Rejunion, so sweet!
24 January 2015 14:00
Margus Meigo commented on Simo Savioja's post.
Group: Punk pole punane
Must huumor24 January 2015 12:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Punk pole punane
Kuid tarapiitat ja muud head ka sel kanalil24 January 2015 12:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Punk pole punane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwBj0xhZdOEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwBj0xhZdOE
24 January 2015 12:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Punk pole punane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di6cirbLgX8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di6cirbLgX8
24 January 2015 12:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kartulad ja Küttepuud, Pea vastu kallis sõber
1. Intro
2. Lapsest Saati
3. Hävinud Tsoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwBj0xhZdOE
1. Intro
2. Lapsest Saati
3. Hävinud Tsoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwBj0xhZdOE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwBj0xhZdOE
24 January 2015 12:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
.:..................neeh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFdvzodIRnA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFdvzodIRnA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFdvzodIRnA
24 January 2015 12:17
Margus Meigo commented on Eleana Palling's life event.
Jeeeeeee! Uus Elu!!!
Vahva!
Vahva!
24 January 2015 10:09
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
so again.. we complain that Walmart , WORLD biggest suppermarket chanin that most people love as You can get all the oranges, tampones and shoot guns in one shopping,
that they get 6 billion in returns.. but same time there is like ower 20 billion
they can just save by chaning to electronical tax return system as we got in Estonia, every human can make tax return with less thenn 15 minutes with no previous knowladge.
Okey.. maybe they have to still implement the ID card system.. but hey, that comes anyway.
that they get 6 billion in returns.. but same time there is like ower 20 billion
they can just save by chaning to electronical tax return system as we got in Estonia, every human can make tax return with less thenn 15 minutes with no previous knowladge.
Okey.. maybe they have to still implement the ID card system.. but hey, that comes anyway.
23 January 2015 14:40
Margus Meigo commented on Whistleblowers's post.
And there is even MORE easy way to get this 5-6 billion from the air:
"The IRS estimates that it sent out nearly three million fraudulent refunds to con artists last year. And according to a new report from the Government Accountability Office out tomorrow, it cost tax payers $5.2 billion. The Treasury Department believes the numbers are much higher than that. Proving once again, what every con man already knows: there is no underestimating the general dysfunction and incompetence of government bureaucracy."
"Wifredo Ferrer: In the year 2012, the Department of Treasury's inspector general predicted that by the year 2016, IRS will be hemorrhaging, and losing $21 billion due to this type of fraud."
This is how it works. Someone steals your identity, files a bogus tax return in your name before you do and collects a refund check from the IRS. It's so simple, you would think it would never work, but it does. It's been around since 2008, and you'd think the IRS would have come up with a way to stop it, it hasn't. Instead the scam has gone viral, tripling in the past three years.
---
Corey Williams: Anybody who knew about it, you'd be a fool to not try to get involved with making some money. I could wake up in the comfort of my own home, and just get on a laptop, do about 15 returns a day. Fifteen times $3,000 a return, that's $45,000 a day.
Steve Kroft: So you had a home office?
Corey Williams: Yeah. I would work in my boxers and a t-shirt, yeah.
It as easy as one, two, three. Williams gave us a demonstration. One: you collect or buy a list of stolen identities that are readily available in Miami, if you know the right people. Two: you go to one of dozens of tax preparation sites on line, and using the stolen social security numbers and dates of birth you fill out a completely bogus W-2 form, claiming a modest refund of a few thousand dollars.
[Corey Williams: It has given us a refund of $4,834.]
Three: you tell the IRS where to send the money, your house, wired toyour bank account or loaded onto a prepaid debit card.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/irs-scam-identity-tax-refund-fraud-60-minutes/
"The IRS estimates that it sent out nearly three million fraudulent refunds to con artists last year. And according to a new report from the Government Accountability Office out tomorrow, it cost tax payers $5.2 billion. The Treasury Department believes the numbers are much higher than that. Proving once again, what every con man already knows: there is no underestimating the general dysfunction and incompetence of government bureaucracy."
"Wifredo Ferrer: In the year 2012, the Department of Treasury's inspector general predicted that by the year 2016, IRS will be hemorrhaging, and losing $21 billion due to this type of fraud."
This is how it works. Someone steals your identity, files a bogus tax return in your name before you do and collects a refund check from the IRS. It's so simple, you would think it would never work, but it does. It's been around since 2008, and you'd think the IRS would have come up with a way to stop it, it hasn't. Instead the scam has gone viral, tripling in the past three years.
---
Corey Williams: Anybody who knew about it, you'd be a fool to not try to get involved with making some money. I could wake up in the comfort of my own home, and just get on a laptop, do about 15 returns a day. Fifteen times $3,000 a return, that's $45,000 a day.
Steve Kroft: So you had a home office?
Corey Williams: Yeah. I would work in my boxers and a t-shirt, yeah.
It as easy as one, two, three. Williams gave us a demonstration. One: you collect or buy a list of stolen identities that are readily available in Miami, if you know the right people. Two: you go to one of dozens of tax preparation sites on line, and using the stolen social security numbers and dates of birth you fill out a completely bogus W-2 form, claiming a modest refund of a few thousand dollars.
[Corey Williams: It has given us a refund of $4,834.]
Three: you tell the IRS where to send the money, your house, wired toyour bank account or loaded onto a prepaid debit card.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/irs-scam-identity-tax-refund-fraud-60-minutes/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/irs-scam-identity-tax-refund-fraud-60-minutes/
23 January 2015 14:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Proverbs 27:16
"To restrain Her is to restrain the Wind or to grasp oil in one's right hand"
- Well, just remeber this, this time. (and no socery of obdaining webbed(s) . u know, to obdain some of that oil better..)
(some dirty estonian joke as well top of here: if you try to restrain her you just might and end up grasping oil to your right hand...)
(how could i not..say...that..)
"To restrain Her is to restrain the Wind or to grasp oil in one's right hand"
- Well, just remeber this, this time. (and no socery of obdaining webbed(s) . u know, to obdain some of that oil better..)
(some dirty estonian joke as well top of here: if you try to restrain her you just might and end up grasping oil to your right hand...)
(how could i not..say...that..)
23 January 2015 13:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ephesians 3:4-5
" When you read this, you can perceive my insight into the mystery of Christ, which was not made known to the sons of men in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit. "
- Well, you dig?
" When you read this, you can perceive my insight into the mystery of Christ, which was not made known to the sons of men in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit. "
- Well, you dig?
23 January 2015 13:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ephesians 3:6
" This mystery is that the Gentiles-Pagans are fellow heirs (successor, inheritor), members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel (part of what needs to be).
- Well, pagans them self know that all along, and how, that is even biger mystery, innit
" This mystery is that the Gentiles-Pagans are fellow heirs (successor, inheritor), members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel (part of what needs to be).
- Well, pagans them self know that all along, and how, that is even biger mystery, innit
23 January 2015 13:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ephesians 3:8
To me, though I am the very least of all the saints, this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles-Pagans the unsearchable riches of Christ,
- Well, still better then to preach to the atheists
To me, though I am the very least of all the saints, this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles-Pagans the unsearchable riches of Christ,
- Well, still better then to preach to the atheists
23 January 2015 13:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ecclesiastes 1:17
"And I applied my heart to know wisdom and to know madness and folly. I perceived that this also is but a striving after wind. "
- Well, but at least you get a good shape as it is healthyer to run after wind then against rock
"And I applied my heart to know wisdom and to know madness and folly. I perceived that this also is but a striving after wind. "
- Well, but at least you get a good shape as it is healthyer to run after wind then against rock
23 January 2015 13:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ephesians 3:5
" Which was not made known to the sons of men in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit "
- Well, and always will be, as time is sircular.. round and round similar events come again.. to wash our Knowing cleaner
" Which was not made known to the sons of men in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit "
- Well, and always will be, as time is sircular.. round and round similar events come again.. to wash our Knowing cleaner
23 January 2015 13:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1 Thessalonians 5:15
"See that no one repays anyone evil for evil, but always seek to do good to one another and to everyone. "
- Well, as eye for the eye and we have blind world as my friend amir told me once : )
"See that no one repays anyone evil for evil, but always seek to do good to one another and to everyone. "
- Well, as eye for the eye and we have blind world as my friend amir told me once : )
23 January 2015 13:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
2 Peter 1:21
"For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. "
- Well, sorry all the scientist gurus and new age prophets, what can we say, Thank You at least for opening a mouth
"For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. "
- Well, sorry all the scientist gurus and new age prophets, what can we say, Thank You at least for opening a mouth
23 January 2015 13:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Job 5:12
"He frustrates the devices of the crafty, so that their hands achieve no success. "
- Well, that is clear on this age of coputing and still, a lack of Great Finish.
"He frustrates the devices of the crafty, so that their hands achieve no success. "
- Well, that is clear on this age of coputing and still, a lack of Great Finish.
23 January 2015 13:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1 Timothy 5:24-25
"The sins of some men are conspicuous, going before them to judgment, but the sins of others appear later. So also good works are conspicuous, and even those that are not cannot remain hidden."
- Well, so much about all the fuzz of "lets plot a secret to advance ourself"
"The sins of some men are conspicuous, going before them to judgment, but the sins of others appear later. So also good works are conspicuous, and even those that are not cannot remain hidden."
- Well, so much about all the fuzz of "lets plot a secret to advance ourself"
23 January 2015 13:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Proverbs 1:5
"Let the wise hear and increase in learning, and the one who understands obtain guidance"
- Well, guidance about what to learn
"Let the wise hear and increase in learning, and the one who understands obtain guidance"
- Well, guidance about what to learn
23 January 2015 13:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1 Corinthians 12:10
"To another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues."
- Well, as long we all Network to Work for what is Worth..there will be benafit.
"To another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues."
- Well, as long we all Network to Work for what is Worth..there will be benafit.
23 January 2015 13:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Proverbs 25:2
"It is the glory of God to conceal things, but the glory of kings is to search things out."
"It is the glory of God to conceal things, but the glory of kings is to search things out."
23 January 2015 13:11
Margus Meigo commented on Whistleblowers's photo.
And this is exatly what they used.. to concure.. the knowladge that masses will anyway would not believe what is behind the sadows... so it is easy to do socery..
23 January 2015 13:06
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
New anthem for a page!
23 January 2015 13:03
Margus Meigo commented on Whistleblowers's photo.
Yo Yo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgcYGzfWm-I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgcYGzfWm-I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgcYGzfWm-I
23 January 2015 13:02
Margus Meigo commented on Whistleblowers's link.
Mil Op
23 January 2015 12:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
And tax rate of Wall Mart: Tax rate: 34.2%
So get of their back.. compared to how little varaiety the others bring and how little they pay...
Just sayng :)
So get of their back.. compared to how little varaiety the others bring and how little they pay...
Just sayng :)
23 January 2015 12:32
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
NOt sure what kind of socery is that but:
"None of ExxonMobil’s income taxes were paid in the U.S. In 2008 the company’s income tax bill was $36 billion."
Bank of America: Sales: $120 billion, Taxes: None (Bank of America probably won’t be paying taxes for a long time.)
"Chevron paid $19 billion income tax in 2008. Of this year’s taxes, just $200 million were paid in the U.S."
CityGroup: Sales: 80 Billion, Taxes: None (as will be in upcoming years)
"General Electric: Sales: $157 billion, Taxes: None. (GA displayed an uncanny ability to lose lots of money in the U.S. and make lots of money overseas, where tax rates are lower )
Valero Gasoline: Income 68 billion, Taxes: None (just do not have money..)
McKesson: Sales: $107 billion, Income taxes: $241 million...
Cardinal Health, Sales 100 Billion, INcome tax: 500 million
Ford Moror: Sales: $118 billion, Tax rate: 2.3% (normal 35%)...
there is kind of inequalty here one might say...
Hewlett-Packard: Sales: $115 billion, Tax rate; 18%
Verizon: Sales: $108 billion, Tax rate: 10% ...
Proper US Corporations:
Kroger: Sales: $77 billion, Tax rate: 35.8 %
AmerisourceBergen: Sales 72.B, Tax Rate: 38%
Costco: Income 71 billion, Tax rate: 36.7%
From: http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/01/ge-exxon-walmart-business-washington-corporate-taxes_slide.html
"None of ExxonMobil’s income taxes were paid in the U.S. In 2008 the company’s income tax bill was $36 billion."
Bank of America: Sales: $120 billion, Taxes: None (Bank of America probably won’t be paying taxes for a long time.)
"Chevron paid $19 billion income tax in 2008. Of this year’s taxes, just $200 million were paid in the U.S."
CityGroup: Sales: 80 Billion, Taxes: None (as will be in upcoming years)
"General Electric: Sales: $157 billion, Taxes: None. (GA displayed an uncanny ability to lose lots of money in the U.S. and make lots of money overseas, where tax rates are lower )
Valero Gasoline: Income 68 billion, Taxes: None (just do not have money..)
McKesson: Sales: $107 billion, Income taxes: $241 million...
Cardinal Health, Sales 100 Billion, INcome tax: 500 million
Ford Moror: Sales: $118 billion, Tax rate: 2.3% (normal 35%)...
there is kind of inequalty here one might say...
Hewlett-Packard: Sales: $115 billion, Tax rate; 18%
Verizon: Sales: $108 billion, Tax rate: 10% ...
Proper US Corporations:
Kroger: Sales: $77 billion, Tax rate: 35.8 %
AmerisourceBergen: Sales 72.B, Tax Rate: 38%
Costco: Income 71 billion, Tax rate: 36.7%
From: http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/01/ge-exxon-walmart-business-washington-corporate-taxes_slide.html
http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/01/ge-exxon-walmart-business-washington-corporate-taxes_slide.html
23 January 2015 12:29
Margus Meigo commented on Whistleblowers's post.
And actually we cannot just "take that money" as well as they are not religious so they would feel hurt by it... they did give You a world largest shopping mall that helps CHinese economy... so that sounds good.
And hey,
NOt sure what kind of socery is that but:
"None of ExxonMobil’s income taxes were paid in the U.S. In 2008 the company’s income tax bill was $36 billion."
Bank of America: Sales: $120 billion, Taxes: None (Bank of America probably won’t be paying taxes for a long time.)
"Chevron paid $19 billion income tax in 2008. Of this year’s taxes, just $200 million were paid in the U.S."
CityGroup: Sales: 80 Billion, Taxes: None (as will be in upcoming years)
"General Electric: Sales: $157 billion, Taxes: None. (GA displayed an uncanny ability to lose lots of money in the U.S. and make lots of money overseas, where tax rates are lower )
Valero Gasoline: Income 68 billion, Taxes: None (just do not have money..)
McKesson: Sales: $107 billion, Income taxes: $241 million...
Cardinal Health, Sales 100 Billion, INcome tax: 500 million
Ford Moror: Sales: $118 billion, Tax rate: 2.3% (normal 35%)...
there is kind of inequalty here one might say...
Hewlett-Packard: Sales: $115 billion, Tax rate; 18%
Verizon: Sales: $108 billion, Tax rate: 10% ...
Proper US Corporations:
Kroger: Sales: $77 billion, Tax rate: 35.8 %
AmerisourceBergen: Sales 72.B, Tax Rate: 38%
Costco: Income 71 billion, Tax rate: 36.7%
From: http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/01/ge-exxon-walmart-business-washington-corporate-taxes.html
And hey,
NOt sure what kind of socery is that but:
"None of ExxonMobil’s income taxes were paid in the U.S. In 2008 the company’s income tax bill was $36 billion."
Bank of America: Sales: $120 billion, Taxes: None (Bank of America probably won’t be paying taxes for a long time.)
"Chevron paid $19 billion income tax in 2008. Of this year’s taxes, just $200 million were paid in the U.S."
CityGroup: Sales: 80 Billion, Taxes: None (as will be in upcoming years)
"General Electric: Sales: $157 billion, Taxes: None. (GA displayed an uncanny ability to lose lots of money in the U.S. and make lots of money overseas, where tax rates are lower )
Valero Gasoline: Income 68 billion, Taxes: None (just do not have money..)
McKesson: Sales: $107 billion, Income taxes: $241 million...
Cardinal Health, Sales 100 Billion, INcome tax: 500 million
Ford Moror: Sales: $118 billion, Tax rate: 2.3% (normal 35%)...
there is kind of inequalty here one might say...
Hewlett-Packard: Sales: $115 billion, Tax rate; 18%
Verizon: Sales: $108 billion, Tax rate: 10% ...
Proper US Corporations:
Kroger: Sales: $77 billion, Tax rate: 35.8 %
AmerisourceBergen: Sales 72.B, Tax Rate: 38%
Costco: Income 71 billion, Tax rate: 36.7%
From: http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/01/ge-exxon-walmart-business-washington-corporate-taxes.html
http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/01/ge-exxon-walmart-business-washington-corporate-taxes.html
23 January 2015 12:29
Margus Meigo commented on Whistleblowers's post.
BUt then again, this how and what these students learn sometimes in this school am would pay some of them to not be in school but to got to discover nature and culture
23 January 2015 11:31
Margus Meigo commented on Analytical Chemistry Techniques's link.
Awesae yes, but same time we must keep in mind HOW not awesame it is as many scientists is allowed to be spiritually bling or even anti religious when they work in lab, so One can imagine, what kind of inovations that are not life supporting can come out from it from the heads of people who think it is just molecules and electones with no life in it.
23 January 2015 07:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
it is so ironic.. how this theatre is... nations under SAME pentagram, same education and mind programmind, same mindset... will try to make special staradagy how to protect them self from each other...
like seriouslly... like that would be hard to see that what it is really all about.
U anty nature, anty femine, anty god impensilles thinking you can keep order this time with an robots as they do not obey the spells ?
Well guess what, there is also a llower level of 0 z, way more neat then BIOS level, like how the electrics moove can be mooved and what one thinks inside electronics, can be chanaged, even with more ease...
as what worked for beasts before, now works with a small bridge practically same way as before, matters little, ethat there is no life in it.
As the spirit of electrizity also wants to be accnoledged to be awaken and who do you think hes calcualtion can choose, ones with a positive atributes or the ones whos track reckord really sucks.
like seriouslly... like that would be hard to see that what it is really all about.
U anty nature, anty femine, anty god impensilles thinking you can keep order this time with an robots as they do not obey the spells ?
Well guess what, there is also a llower level of 0 z, way more neat then BIOS level, like how the electrics moove can be mooved and what one thinks inside electronics, can be chanaged, even with more ease...
as what worked for beasts before, now works with a small bridge practically same way as before, matters little, ethat there is no life in it.
As the spirit of electrizity also wants to be accnoledged to be awaken and who do you think hes calcualtion can choose, ones with a positive atributes or the ones whos track reckord really sucks.
22 January 2015 21:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"...by St. Thomas’ reflection leave no doubt about what will overturn the relationship between women and Christianity: the concept of “defective creature” is just the beginning. In question 117, article 3, addressing the possibility that the human soul can change the substance, St. Thomas says that “some old women” are evil-minded; they gaze on children in a poisonous and evil way, and demons, with whom the witches enter into agreements, interacting through their eyes [18]. The idea of a woman-witch, which we shall call the “demonological vision”, almost becomes insuperable: preachers disclose the Old Testament’s condemnation of wizards and necromancers and the fear of witches spreads in the collective imagination of the European population. The ecclesiastical authorities try to impose celibacy and chastity on the clergy, and St. Thomas’ theological descriptions regarding woman’s inferiority are, perhaps, the start of a misogynistic crusade in the late Middle Ages.
From the thirteenth century onwards, the struggle with heresy assumes a political connotation: the Church aims tat unifying Europe under its banner, so breviaries become manuals of the Inquisition and many manifestations of mental illness are seen as obscene bonds between women and the Devil. “Hysterical” women are subjected to exorcism: the cause of their problem is found in a demonic presence. If in early Christianity, exorcism was considered a cure but not a punishment, in the late Middle Ages it becomes a punishment and hysteria is confused with sorcery.
Political and religious status quo in Europe..."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3480686/
The spell and wiches pages to show the state of what is writen how:
Sexual Spells
http://www.spellsofmagic.com/spells/love_spells/sexual_spells/page.html (spells)
http://www.moragspinner.net/orgasm-magic/ (instructions)
http://www.debbiechristiana.com/WritersCircle/SexMagic_Writers.html (how it works)
http://sarahannelawless.com/2010/07/30/sex-magic-in-traditional-witchcraft/ (uses, methods)
http://www.llewellyn.com/journal/article/2262 (for beginners)
http://intrepidcrow.tumblr.com/post/87342665054/do-you-know-any-easy-simple-lust-spell-to-attract (a little)
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070626230033AA5oMtn (warnings from common people about..)
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Herbs.html (use of herbs)
LuckyMojo:
http://www.arcane-archive.org/faqs/fuckspells.php
http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/occultism/magic/spells/red/loveandsexspells.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/lovespells.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/mysticism/sex/bj199808sexspiritfaq (Sex and spirituality FAQ)
http://www.luckymojo.com/sacredsex.html (a lot of sex topic)
http://www.luckymojo.com/tklibidospell.html (instructions, explenations)
http://www.luckymojo.com/allthepages.html (lot of links)
http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/mysticism/sex/
http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/interdisciplinary/mysticism/sex/
http://www.luckymojo.com/faqs/altsex/
http://tags.literotica.com/spell (erotic storys)
http://www.vedicwisdom.com/blackmagic/black_magic_faq.php (FAQ about help from black)
more alt text files:
http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/mysticism/sex.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/mysticism/sex/cy199902sexmysticism
http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/religion/hinduism/yoga/tantra/neo-tantra/REF.sex-mgk.josh (more undesirable practises)
http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/mysticism/sex/cy199907biobasisoftantra (tantra)
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/magick/ (newsgrup files)
Wiccan Sex
http://spells-witchcraft.org/wiccan-sex.htm (loads of reversed bolloc about religion as well, penta)
From the thirteenth century onwards, the struggle with heresy assumes a political connotation: the Church aims tat unifying Europe under its banner, so breviaries become manuals of the Inquisition and many manifestations of mental illness are seen as obscene bonds between women and the Devil. “Hysterical” women are subjected to exorcism: the cause of their problem is found in a demonic presence. If in early Christianity, exorcism was considered a cure but not a punishment, in the late Middle Ages it becomes a punishment and hysteria is confused with sorcery.
Political and religious status quo in Europe..."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3480686/
The spell and wiches pages to show the state of what is writen how:
Sexual Spells
http://www.spellsofmagic.com/spells/love_spells/sexual_spells/page.html (spells)
http://www.moragspinner.net/orgasm-magic/ (instructions)
http://www.debbiechristiana.com/WritersCircle/SexMagic_Writers.html (how it works)
http://sarahannelawless.com/2010/07/30/sex-magic-in-traditional-witchcraft/ (uses, methods)
http://www.llewellyn.com/journal/article/2262 (for beginners)
http://intrepidcrow.tumblr.com/post/87342665054/do-you-know-any-easy-simple-lust-spell-to-attract (a little)
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070626230033AA5oMtn (warnings from common people about..)
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Herbs.html (use of herbs)
LuckyMojo:
http://www.arcane-archive.org/faqs/fuckspells.php
http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/occultism/magic/spells/red/loveandsexspells.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/lovespells.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/mysticism/sex/bj199808sexspiritfaq (Sex and spirituality FAQ)
http://www.luckymojo.com/sacredsex.html (a lot of sex topic)
http://www.luckymojo.com/tklibidospell.html (instructions, explenations)
http://www.luckymojo.com/allthepages.html (lot of links)
http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/mysticism/sex/
http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/interdisciplinary/mysticism/sex/
http://www.luckymojo.com/faqs/altsex/
http://tags.literotica.com/spell (erotic storys)
http://www.vedicwisdom.com/blackmagic/black_magic_faq.php (FAQ about help from black)
more alt text files:
http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/mysticism/sex.html
http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/mysticism/sex/cy199902sexmysticism
http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/religion/hinduism/yoga/tantra/neo-tantra/REF.sex-mgk.josh (more undesirable practises)
http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/mysticism/sex/cy199907biobasisoftantra (tantra)
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/magick/ (newsgrup files)
Wiccan Sex
http://spells-witchcraft.org/wiccan-sex.htm (loads of reversed bolloc about religion as well, penta)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3480686/
22 January 2015 20:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
And all the other good posts like:
Uses of sex: "Sex to create magic. Some witches believe that that the most powerful time to cast a spell is during orgasm."
http://anniesprinkle.org/101-uses-for-sex/
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Sex as a sedative. It helps you go to sleep.
Sex to fight addictions. It helped me quit smoking
Sex as a laxative. Regular sex helps you have regular shits.
Sex to get to know somebody. You can tell a lot about a person by fucking them.
Sex as a meditation.
Sex to relieve boredom.
Sex to improve concentration.
Sex to make money.
Sex to create magic. Some witches believe that that the most powerful time to cast a spell is during orgasm.
Sex for manipulation. It can get you what you want.
Sex as a reward. Either to yourself or to someone else.
Sex for relaxation.
Sex for rejuvenation. It keeps you looking and feeling younger.
Sex to increase energy. A great pick-me-up.
Sex to cure an asthma attack. I saved a man’s life once.
Sex to make you laugh. It can be hilarious.
Sex as a gift. A present for birthdays, anniversaries, Bar Mitzvahs…
Sex to get high.
Sex to achieve an altered state.
Sex to create life.
Sex for waking up. Helps get rid of that groggy feeling.
Sex to cure back pain.
Sex to keep warm in the winter.
Sex as a pain killer. It’s far more potent than aspirin, and most prescription pain killers.
Sex as an anti-depressant. It will cheer you up.
Sex for stress reduction.
Sex as a spiritual exercise.
Sex for exercise. It’s aerobic and burns calories.
Sex for thrills and adventure.
Sex to relive headaches. Even migraines.
Sex as a cure for writer’s block.
Sex as a good deed. Give the needy an occasional mercy fuck.
Sex as an art form. It can be very creative and a great way to express oneself.
Sex to control appetite. It can be so filling.
Sex for cardiovascular health.
Sex to create intimacy.
Sex as an expression of love.
Sex for itching mosquito bites. Apply your own sperm to affected areas.
Sex for barter. Trade it for all kinds of things.
Sex to get in touch with emotions, like sadness.
Sex to avoid working. I can always finish this some other time.
Uses of sex: "Sex to create magic. Some witches believe that that the most powerful time to cast a spell is during orgasm."
http://anniesprinkle.org/101-uses-for-sex/
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Order it!
Sex as a sedative. It helps you go to sleep.
Sex to fight addictions. It helped me quit smoking
Sex as a laxative. Regular sex helps you have regular shits.
Sex to get to know somebody. You can tell a lot about a person by fucking them.
Sex as a meditation.
Sex to relieve boredom.
Sex to improve concentration.
Sex to make money.
Sex to create magic. Some witches believe that that the most powerful time to cast a spell is during orgasm.
Sex for manipulation. It can get you what you want.
Sex as a reward. Either to yourself or to someone else.
Sex for relaxation.
Sex for rejuvenation. It keeps you looking and feeling younger.
Sex to increase energy. A great pick-me-up.
Sex to cure an asthma attack. I saved a man’s life once.
Sex to make you laugh. It can be hilarious.
Sex as a gift. A present for birthdays, anniversaries, Bar Mitzvahs…
Sex to get high.
Sex to achieve an altered state.
Sex to create life.
Sex for waking up. Helps get rid of that groggy feeling.
Sex to cure back pain.
Sex to keep warm in the winter.
Sex as a pain killer. It’s far more potent than aspirin, and most prescription pain killers.
Sex as an anti-depressant. It will cheer you up.
Sex for stress reduction.
Sex as a spiritual exercise.
Sex for exercise. It’s aerobic and burns calories.
Sex for thrills and adventure.
Sex to relive headaches. Even migraines.
Sex as a cure for writer’s block.
Sex as a good deed. Give the needy an occasional mercy fuck.
Sex as an art form. It can be very creative and a great way to express oneself.
Sex to control appetite. It can be so filling.
Sex for cardiovascular health.
Sex to create intimacy.
Sex as an expression of love.
Sex for itching mosquito bites. Apply your own sperm to affected areas.
Sex for barter. Trade it for all kinds of things.
Sex to get in touch with emotions, like sadness.
Sex to avoid working. I can always finish this some other time.
http://anniesprinkle.org/101-uses-for-sex/
22 January 2015 15:59
Margus Meigo commented on Jack Russel's post.
Gotta love Mother Russia, only way to make Her free, from a ower wealming amount of stars that are up on them, as well
22 January 2015 13:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
To equal all these huge nubers that surpass the computer age, in india where they also got a problem by now,(that it is legal to have) same disease, lack of knowladge, how to keep Her
22 January 2015 13:20
Margus Meigo commented on Urmas Silman's post.
Group: Eesti Tervise Kooskond
Kas sarnased kirjeldused
http://anniesprinkle.org/seven-types-of-female-orgasm/http://anniesprinkle.org/seven-types-of-female-orgasm/
22 January 2015 13:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"In Hinduism (cf. Hindu Time Cycles), it is equal to 4.32 billion years, a "day of Brahma" or one thousand mahayugas,[2] measuring the duration of the world (scientists estimate the age of the Earth at 4.54 billion years).[5] Each kalpa is divided into 14 manvantara periods, each lasting 71 yuga cycles (306,720,000 years). Preceding the first and following each manvatara period is a juncture (sandhya) the length of a Satya-yuga (1,728,000) years.[6] Two kalpas constitute a day and night of Brahma. A "month of Brahma" is supposed to contain thirty such days (including nights), or 259.2 billion years. According to the Mahabharata, 12 months of Brahma (=360 days) constitute his year, and 100 such years the life cycle of the universe. Fifty years of Brahma are supposed to have elapsed, and we are now in the shvetavaraha kalpa of the fifty-first; at the end of a kalpa the world is annihilated."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalpa_%28aeon%29
What a nice word, annihilated
"These four yugas, rotating a thousand times, comprise one day of Brahmā, and the same number comprise one night. Brahmā lives one hundred of such "years" and then dies. These "hundred years" total 311 trillion 40 billion (311,040,000,000,000) earth years. By these calculations the life of Brahmā seems fantastic and interminable, but from the viewpoint of eternity it is as brief as a lightning flash"
yeah.. make your pension plan on that, state.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manvantara
so what is the date again?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalpa_%28aeon%29
What a nice word, annihilated
"These four yugas, rotating a thousand times, comprise one day of Brahmā, and the same number comprise one night. Brahmā lives one hundred of such "years" and then dies. These "hundred years" total 311 trillion 40 billion (311,040,000,000,000) earth years. By these calculations the life of Brahmā seems fantastic and interminable, but from the viewpoint of eternity it is as brief as a lightning flash"
yeah.. make your pension plan on that, state.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manvantara
so what is the date again?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalpa_%28aeon%29
22 January 2015 12:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Last link is a bit lame, but still, can you fill us in a bit about proper view how should be and how is for now, are you in the aria where they allow cannabis or where it is denied?
and yes, thise scientist list should be looked in to also..
and yes, thise scientist list should be looked in to also..
22 January 2015 11:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
and Metehan Kalelioğlu is that any real talk also in turky in these days:
"The Turkish head of the physics department at Bilecik University, who proposed to revive the Nazi death camps, a month later was awarded a fund to sponsor his research from Turkey’s state scientific institute.
Obama’s “best bud,” his most favorite and most trusted ally. This is who the current President of the United States stands with.
OT but related: Hitler’s Mein Kampf has been a number one bestseller in Turkey for over a decade.
The human rights activists, instead of finding anti-Semitism investigated, may in the end find themselves investigated. The Turkish head of the physics department at Bilecik University, who proposed to revive the Nazi death camps, a month later was awarded a fund to sponsor his research from Turkey’s state scientific institute.
This summer, a former al-Qaeda offspring metamorphosed into a regular army and captured large swathes of land in Iraq and Syria. It first flagged itself as the Islamic Army of Iraq and the Levant [ISIL], then reflagged itself simply as the Islamic State [IS]. It declared the Islamic caliphate in the lands it captured and has since killed tens of thousands of “infidels,” including, primarily, Shia Muslims. It has beheaded the Western captives it held, declaring them casualties in its jihad against the Christian world. Its methods of imposing Salafism were denounced as “too extreme” even by al-Qaeda.
Against this backdrop, a recent survey by the prominent Turkish pollsters Metropoll found that 84% of the Turks think that ISIL (or IS) “is not acting on religious motives.” Almost a third of the Turks think that the Islamists, with whom they now share a 900-mile border, do not pose a security threat to their country, although ISIL in June attacked the Turkish consulate in Mosul, Iraq’s second biggest city, and took hostage 46 Turks, including the consul general – only to release them recently in exchange of an unknown number of imprisoned militants.
There is a tricky finding in the same survey. Metropoll found out that “only a mere five percent of Turks say they feel sympathetic to ISIL.” The Turks (and the world) should be happy that only a marginal fraction of their countrymen feel sympathetic to a group that kills in the name of a specific interpretation of Islam. What is five percent, after all? Sadly, that is not the case.
If a mere 5% of the Turks feel sympathetic to ISIL, it means there are nearly 400,000 souls residing in Turkey who feel sympathetic to jihadists. And that is too many
- See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2014/10/prominent-turkish-scientist-proposes-gas-chambers-for-jews-gets-grant-to-study-it.html/
"The Turkish head of the physics department at Bilecik University, who proposed to revive the Nazi death camps, a month later was awarded a fund to sponsor his research from Turkey’s state scientific institute.
Obama’s “best bud,” his most favorite and most trusted ally. This is who the current President of the United States stands with.
OT but related: Hitler’s Mein Kampf has been a number one bestseller in Turkey for over a decade.
The human rights activists, instead of finding anti-Semitism investigated, may in the end find themselves investigated. The Turkish head of the physics department at Bilecik University, who proposed to revive the Nazi death camps, a month later was awarded a fund to sponsor his research from Turkey’s state scientific institute.
This summer, a former al-Qaeda offspring metamorphosed into a regular army and captured large swathes of land in Iraq and Syria. It first flagged itself as the Islamic Army of Iraq and the Levant [ISIL], then reflagged itself simply as the Islamic State [IS]. It declared the Islamic caliphate in the lands it captured and has since killed tens of thousands of “infidels,” including, primarily, Shia Muslims. It has beheaded the Western captives it held, declaring them casualties in its jihad against the Christian world. Its methods of imposing Salafism were denounced as “too extreme” even by al-Qaeda.
Against this backdrop, a recent survey by the prominent Turkish pollsters Metropoll found that 84% of the Turks think that ISIL (or IS) “is not acting on religious motives.” Almost a third of the Turks think that the Islamists, with whom they now share a 900-mile border, do not pose a security threat to their country, although ISIL in June attacked the Turkish consulate in Mosul, Iraq’s second biggest city, and took hostage 46 Turks, including the consul general – only to release them recently in exchange of an unknown number of imprisoned militants.
There is a tricky finding in the same survey. Metropoll found out that “only a mere five percent of Turks say they feel sympathetic to ISIL.” The Turks (and the world) should be happy that only a marginal fraction of their countrymen feel sympathetic to a group that kills in the name of a specific interpretation of Islam. What is five percent, after all? Sadly, that is not the case.
If a mere 5% of the Turks feel sympathetic to ISIL, it means there are nearly 400,000 souls residing in Turkey who feel sympathetic to jihadists. And that is too many
- See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2014/10/prominent-turkish-scientist-proposes-gas-chambers-for-jews-gets-grant-to-study-it.html/
http://pamelageller.com/2014/10/prominent-turkish-scientist-proposes-gas-chambers-for-jews-gets-grant-to-study-it.html/
22 January 2015 11:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Metehan Kalelioğlu is that true common view in your side::
"Preface
The article below was written in 2001. Since then much has changed in Turkey. After the election of Tayyip Erdogan as the Prime Minister, Turkish government has shifted its policy, turning against Israel and aligning itself with Iran and radical Arab regimes, including terrorist organization Hamas. Erdogan has been erasing the reforms of Ataturk, the founding father of modern Turkey. Under Erdogan Turkey has become an islamist country, where the Jewish minority lives in fear. There were several incidents of murder of Jews solely because of their religion and some synagogues in Istanbul were bombed by terrorist groups. The population of the country under the encouragement of Erdogan and his party has started pursuing very strongly a radical Islamist lifestyle. Istanbul that used to be a European style cosmopolitan city is turning in certain neighborhoods into an Islamic province. In 2010, the major ship that headed the Gaza flotilla ("Mavi Marmara") was supported by the Prime Minister Erdogan. This was the most extreme anti-Israel action of the Turkish government. Considering that Israel is daily subject to rocket and missiles launched from Hamas controlled Gaza, Israeli navy patrols control sea traffic to Gaza to prevent delivery of armaments into Gaza. The response of Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) was much milder than that of Turkey in Cyprus. In 1974, Turkish army invaded Cyprus because of relatively minor events establishing there an independent Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. Originally, these pages were titled "Turkish-Jewish Friendship Over 500 Years". Erdogan government has put an end to this friendship. So this title was removed from this site. "
Rest of it: http://www.science.co.il/hi/Turkish/
"Preface
The article below was written in 2001. Since then much has changed in Turkey. After the election of Tayyip Erdogan as the Prime Minister, Turkish government has shifted its policy, turning against Israel and aligning itself with Iran and radical Arab regimes, including terrorist organization Hamas. Erdogan has been erasing the reforms of Ataturk, the founding father of modern Turkey. Under Erdogan Turkey has become an islamist country, where the Jewish minority lives in fear. There were several incidents of murder of Jews solely because of their religion and some synagogues in Istanbul were bombed by terrorist groups. The population of the country under the encouragement of Erdogan and his party has started pursuing very strongly a radical Islamist lifestyle. Istanbul that used to be a European style cosmopolitan city is turning in certain neighborhoods into an Islamic province. In 2010, the major ship that headed the Gaza flotilla ("Mavi Marmara") was supported by the Prime Minister Erdogan. This was the most extreme anti-Israel action of the Turkish government. Considering that Israel is daily subject to rocket and missiles launched from Hamas controlled Gaza, Israeli navy patrols control sea traffic to Gaza to prevent delivery of armaments into Gaza. The response of Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) was much milder than that of Turkey in Cyprus. In 1974, Turkish army invaded Cyprus because of relatively minor events establishing there an independent Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. Originally, these pages were titled "Turkish-Jewish Friendship Over 500 Years". Erdogan government has put an end to this friendship. So this title was removed from this site. "
Rest of it: http://www.science.co.il/hi/Turkish/
http://www.science.co.il/hi/Turkish/
22 January 2015 11:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
access granted is pre web times already
22 January 2015 11:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
IN hacker mind set is what counts, how, for what you use the little u got
the reason why most politicans private calls and data is not on public domain is becouse there has not jet been unified theology that we should do it, so rarely, so do, a little..
the reason why most politicans private calls and data is not on public domain is becouse there has not jet been unified theology that we should do it, so rarely, so do, a little..
22 January 2015 11:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Armastus pole emotsionaalne asi..
http://foorum.usk.ee/index.php?topic=2108.0
http://foorum.usk.ee/index.php?topic=2108.0
http://foorum.usk.ee/index.php?topic=2108.0
22 January 2015 11:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
okey some here.. but still
Alberto Behar, Robotics expert NASA at the JPL.
John Rogers, Tropica Disease expert with the National Institutes of Health.
Glenn Thomas, AIDS and Ebola expert and spokesperson for the World Health Organization.
Mark Ferri, 59, Nuclear engineer
Professor Carol Ambruster, 69, University professor and Astronomy and Astrophysics
Anne Szarewski, 53, pioneered the cervical cancer vaccine.
Shane Todd, 31, Phd in electrical engineering with expertise with GaN (Gallium Nitride).
Dr. Richard Holmes , age 48. Weapons expert.
Melissa Ketunuti, - died January 2013, AIDS research, irefighters find charred body of murdered pediatrician who was hog-tied, strangled and set on fire in her basement
Professor Dr. Richard Crowe, 60, died May 27 in an off-road accident in Arizona
Gelareh Bagherzadeh,molecular scientist,ied Jan. 17, when she was shot outside her home,
James S. Miller, 58, as a result of being attacked during a home invasion.biochemistry
Zachary Greene Warfield, 35, died July 4 in a boating accident on the Potomac River. NSA, DARPA
Jonathan Widom, 55, died July 18 of an apparent heart attack. He was a professor of Molecular Biosciences
Fanjun Meng, 29, and Chunyang Zhang, 26, drowned in a Branson hotel swimming pool. link between pesticides and Parkinson's disease
Andrei Tropinov, Sergei Rizhov, Gennadi Benyok, Nicolai Tronov and Valery Lyalin, in a Russian plane crash.nuclear
Rodger Lynn Dickey, 56, from an apparent suicide Mar. 18 after he jumped from the Gorge Bridge. nuclear engineer
Gregory Stone, 54, from an unknown illness Feb. 17.director of the renowned Wave-Current Information System
Bradley C. Livezey, 56, died in a car crash Feb. 8. The Carnegie Museum of Natural History curator
Dr Massoud Ali Mohammadi, 50, was assassinated Jan. 11 . politically active nuclear physics
John (Jack) P. Wheeler III, 66. last seen Dec. 30found dead in a Delaware landfill,Secretary of Defense and writing a manual on the effectiveness of biological and chemical weapons, which recommended that the United States not use biological weapons.
Mark A. Smith, 45. Died Nov. 15 renowned Alzheimer's disease researcher has died after being hit by a car in Ohio.
Chitra Chauhan, 33. Died Nov. 15 was found dead in an apparent suicide by cyanide at a Temple Terrace hotel, police said. molecular biologist, studied mosquitoes and disease transmission
Franco Cerrina, 62. Died July 12 was found dead in a lab at BU’s Photonics Center on Monday morning. He co-founded five companies, including NimbleGen Systems, Genetic Assemblies (merged with Codon Devices in 2006), Codon Devices, Biolitho, and Gen9
Vajinder Toor, 34. Died April 26 shot and killed outside his home in Branford, Conn. Toor worked at Kingsbrook Jewish Medical Center in New York before joining Yale.
Joseph Morrissey, 46. Died April 6 as a victim of a home invasion. immunopharmacology in the College of Pharmacy.
Maria Ragland Davis, 52. Died February 13 at the hand of neurobiologist Amy Bishop. Her background was in chemical engineering and biochemistry, and she specialized in plant pathology and biotechnology applications.
Gopi K. Podila, 54. Died February 13 at the hand of neurobiologist Amy Bishop, plant-microbe interactions, plant molecular biology and biotechnology. studied genes that regulate growth in fast growing trees
Adriel D. Johnson Sr. , 52. Died February 13 at the hand of neurobiologist Amy Bishop. His research involved aspects of gastrointestinal physiology specifically pancreatic function in vertebrates.
Amy Bishop, 45, Neurobiologist - murdered three fellow scientists February 13 after being denied tenure. (maybe)
Keith Fagnou, 38. Died November 11 of H1N1. His research focused on improving the preparation of complex molecules for petrochemical, pharmaceutical or industrial uses. Keith's advanced and out--of-the-box thinking overturned prior ideas of what is possible in the chemistry field.
Stephen Lagakos, 63. Died October 12 in an auto collision, wife, Regina, 61, and his mother, Helen, 94, were also killed in the crash, as was the driver of the other car, Stephen Krause,several fronts in the fight against AIDS
Malcolm Casadaban, 60. Died Sept. 13 of plague. Casadaban, a renowned molecular geneticist with a passion for new research, had been working to develop an even stronger vaccine for the plague.
Wallace L. Pannier, 81. Died Aug. 6 of respiratory failure and other natural causes. Pannier, a germ warfare scientist whose top-secret projects included a mock attack on the New York subway with powdered bacteria in 1966
August "Gus" Watanabe, 67. Died June 9, found dead outside a cabin in Brown County. Friends discovered the body, a .38-caliber handgun and a three-page note at the scene. Watanabe was one of the five highest-paid officers of Indianapolis pharmaceutical maker Eli Lilly and Co
Nasser Talebzadeh Ordoubadi, 53. Died February 14, of "suspicious" causes. pioneer of Mind-Body-Quantum medicine
Bruce Edwards Ivins, 62. Died July 29, of an overdose. Ivins was a coinventor on two US patents for anthrax vaccine technology.
Laurent Bonomo and Gabriel Ferez, both 23. Died July 3, after being bound, gagged, stabbed and set alight. Laurent, a student in the proteins that cause infectious disease, had been stabbed 196 times with half of them being administered to his back after he was dead. Gabriel, who hoped to become an expert in ecofriendly fuels, suffered 47 separate injuries.
Yongsheng Li, age 29. Died: sometime after 4 p.m. on March 10, when he was last seen as a result of unknown causes.studied receptor cells in Regents Professor David Puett's biochemistry and molecular biology laboratory.
Dr. Mario Alberto Vargas Olvera, age 52. Died: Oct. 6, 2007as a result of several blunt-force injuries to his head and neck. nationally and internationally recognized biologist.
Yoram Kaufman, age 57 (one day before his 58th birthday). Died: May 31, 2006when he was struck by an automobile while riding his bicycle near the Goddard center's campus in Greenbelt. NASA
Lee Jong-woo, age 61. Died: May 22, 2006after suffering a blood clot on the brain. Lee was spearheading the organization's fight against global threats from bird flu, AIDS and other infectious diseases.
Leonid Strachunsky. Died: June 8, 2005 after being hit on the head with a champagne bottle. Strachunsky specialized in creating microbes resistant to biological weapons.
Robert J. Lull, age 66. Died: May 19, 2005. nuclear medicine, politicaly active
Todd Kauppila, age 41. Died: May 8, 2005of hemorrhagic pancreatitis at the Los Alamos hospital, according to the state medical examiner's office. Picture of him was not available to due secret nature of his work. Scatter Reduction Grids in Megavolt Radiography.Kauppila was fired by director Pete Nanos on Sept. 23, 2004 following a security scandal.
David Banks, age 55. Died: May 8, 2005. Banks, based in North Queensland, died in an airplane crash, along with 14 others. He was known as an Agro Genius inventing the mosquito trap used for cattle.
Dr. Douglas James Passaro, age 43. Died April 18, 2005 from unknown cause Passaro was a brilliant epidemiologist who wanted to unlock the secrets of a spiral-shaped bacteria that causes stomach disease. He was a professor who challenged his students with real-life exercises in bioterrorism.
Geetha Angara, age 43. Died: February 8, 2005. doing water quality tests at the Passaic Valley Water Commission plant..
Jeong H. Im, age 72. Died: January 7, 2005. Korean Jeong H. Im, died of multiple stab wounds to the chest before firefighters found in his body in the trunk of a burning car, protein chemist
Darwin Kenneth Vest, born April 22, 1951, was an internationally renowned entomologist, expert on hobo spiders and other poisonous spiders and snakes
Tom Thorne, age 64; Beth Williams, age 53; Died: December 29, 2004. Two wild life scientists, Husband-and-wife wildlife veterinarians who were nationally prominent experts on chronic wasting disease
Taleb Ibrahim al-Daher. Died: December 21, 2004. Iraqi nuclear scientist was shot dead north of Baghdad by unknown gunmen. H
John R. La Montagne, age 61. Died: November 2, 2004. Died while in Mexico, no cause stated, later disclosed as pulmonary embolism. PhD, Head of US Infectious Diseases . AIDS
Matthew Allison, age 32. Died: October 13, 2004. Fatal explosion .molecular biology and biotechnology.
Mohammed Toki Hussein al-Talakani, age 40. Died: September 5, 2004: Iraqi nuclear scientist was shot dead
Professor John Clark, Age 52, Died: August 12, 2004. Found hanged in his holiday home. An expert in animal science and biotechnology.He played a crucial role in creating the transgenic sheep that earned the institute worldwide fame.
Dr. John Badwey, age 54. Died: July 21, 2004. Scientist and accidental politician when he opposed disposal of sewage waste program of exposing humans to sludge. Biochemist, infectious diseases.
Dr. Bassem al-Mudares. Died: July 21, 2004. Mutilated body was found in the city of Samarra, Iraq*. He was a Phd. chemist and had been tortured before being killed. He was a drug company worker who had a chemistry doctorate.
Professor Stephen Tabet, age 42. Died on July 6, 2004 from an unknown illness. He was an associate professor and epidemiologist . HIV. Vacine
Dr. Larry Bustard, age 53. Died July 2, 2004 from unknown causes. He was a Sandia scientist in the Department of Energy. expert in bioterrorism
Edward Hoffman, ag2. Die 6ed July 1, 2004 from unknown causes. Hoffman was a professor and a scientist. He worked to develop the first human PET scanner
John Mullen, age 67. Died: June 29, 2004. A Nuclear physicist poisoned with a huge dose of arsenic. A nuclear research
Dr. Paul Norman, age 52. Died: June 27, 2004. From Salisbury Wiltshire. Killed when the single-engine Cessna 206 he was piloting crashed in Devon. Expert in chemical and biological weapons.
Dr. Assefa Tulu, age 45. Died: June 24, 2004. Dr. Tulu joined the health department in 1997 and served for five years as the county's lone epidemiologist.
Thomas Gold, age 84. Died: June 22, 2004. Austrian born Thomas Gold famous over the years for a variety of bold theories that flout conventional wisdom and reported in his 1998 book, "The Deep Hot Biosphere," the idea challenges the accepted wisdom of how oil and natural gas are formed and, along the way, proposes a new theory of the beginnings of life on Earth and potentially on other planets.
Antonina Presnyakova, age 46. Died: May 25, 2004. A Russian scientist at a former Soviet biological weapons laboratory in Siberia died after an accident with a needle laced with ebola.
Dr. Eugene Mallove, age 56. Died: May 14, 2004. Autopsy confirmed Mallove died as a result of several blunt-force injuries to his head and neck. "new energy research."
William T. McGuire, age 39. Found May 5, 2004, last seen late April 2004. Body found in three suitcases floating in Chesapeake Bay. world's leading microbiologists and an expert in developing and overseeing multiple levels of biocontainment facilities
Ilsley Ingram, age 84. Died on April 12, 2004 from unknown causes. Ingram was Director of the Supraregional Haemophilia Reference Centre and the Supraregional Centre for the Diagnosis of Bleeding Disorders at the St. Thomas Hospital in London. Although his age is most likely the reason for his death, why wasn't this confirmed by the family in the news media?
Mohammed Munim al-Izmerly, Died: April 2004. This distinguished Iraqi chemistry professor died in American custody from a sudden hit to the back of his head caused by blunt trauma.the cause of death was initially recorded as "brainstem compression". It was discovered that US doctors had made a 20cm incision in his skull.
Vadake Srinivasan, Died: March 13, 2004.Microbiologist crashed car into guard rail in Baton Rouge, LA. Death was ruled a stroke. He was originally from India, was one of the most-accomplished and respected industrial biologists in academia, and held two doctorate degrees.
Dr. Michael Patrick Kiley, age 62. Died: January 24, 2004. Died of massive heart attack. Ebola, Mad Cow Expert, top of the line world class. It is interesting to note, he had a good heart, but it "gave out". Dr. Shope and Dr. Kiley were working on the lab upgrade to BSL 4 at the UTMB Galvaston
http://www.stevequayle.com/?s=146
Alberto Behar, Robotics expert NASA at the JPL.
John Rogers, Tropica Disease expert with the National Institutes of Health.
Glenn Thomas, AIDS and Ebola expert and spokesperson for the World Health Organization.
Mark Ferri, 59, Nuclear engineer
Professor Carol Ambruster, 69, University professor and Astronomy and Astrophysics
Anne Szarewski, 53, pioneered the cervical cancer vaccine.
Shane Todd, 31, Phd in electrical engineering with expertise with GaN (Gallium Nitride).
Dr. Richard Holmes , age 48. Weapons expert.
Melissa Ketunuti, - died January 2013, AIDS research, irefighters find charred body of murdered pediatrician who was hog-tied, strangled and set on fire in her basement
Professor Dr. Richard Crowe, 60, died May 27 in an off-road accident in Arizona
Gelareh Bagherzadeh,molecular scientist,ied Jan. 17, when she was shot outside her home,
James S. Miller, 58, as a result of being attacked during a home invasion.biochemistry
Zachary Greene Warfield, 35, died July 4 in a boating accident on the Potomac River. NSA, DARPA
Jonathan Widom, 55, died July 18 of an apparent heart attack. He was a professor of Molecular Biosciences
Fanjun Meng, 29, and Chunyang Zhang, 26, drowned in a Branson hotel swimming pool. link between pesticides and Parkinson's disease
Andrei Tropinov, Sergei Rizhov, Gennadi Benyok, Nicolai Tronov and Valery Lyalin, in a Russian plane crash.nuclear
Rodger Lynn Dickey, 56, from an apparent suicide Mar. 18 after he jumped from the Gorge Bridge. nuclear engineer
Gregory Stone, 54, from an unknown illness Feb. 17.director of the renowned Wave-Current Information System
Bradley C. Livezey, 56, died in a car crash Feb. 8. The Carnegie Museum of Natural History curator
Dr Massoud Ali Mohammadi, 50, was assassinated Jan. 11 . politically active nuclear physics
John (Jack) P. Wheeler III, 66. last seen Dec. 30found dead in a Delaware landfill,Secretary of Defense and writing a manual on the effectiveness of biological and chemical weapons, which recommended that the United States not use biological weapons.
Mark A. Smith, 45. Died Nov. 15 renowned Alzheimer's disease researcher has died after being hit by a car in Ohio.
Chitra Chauhan, 33. Died Nov. 15 was found dead in an apparent suicide by cyanide at a Temple Terrace hotel, police said. molecular biologist, studied mosquitoes and disease transmission
Franco Cerrina, 62. Died July 12 was found dead in a lab at BU’s Photonics Center on Monday morning. He co-founded five companies, including NimbleGen Systems, Genetic Assemblies (merged with Codon Devices in 2006), Codon Devices, Biolitho, and Gen9
Vajinder Toor, 34. Died April 26 shot and killed outside his home in Branford, Conn. Toor worked at Kingsbrook Jewish Medical Center in New York before joining Yale.
Joseph Morrissey, 46. Died April 6 as a victim of a home invasion. immunopharmacology in the College of Pharmacy.
Maria Ragland Davis, 52. Died February 13 at the hand of neurobiologist Amy Bishop. Her background was in chemical engineering and biochemistry, and she specialized in plant pathology and biotechnology applications.
Gopi K. Podila, 54. Died February 13 at the hand of neurobiologist Amy Bishop, plant-microbe interactions, plant molecular biology and biotechnology. studied genes that regulate growth in fast growing trees
Adriel D. Johnson Sr. , 52. Died February 13 at the hand of neurobiologist Amy Bishop. His research involved aspects of gastrointestinal physiology specifically pancreatic function in vertebrates.
Amy Bishop, 45, Neurobiologist - murdered three fellow scientists February 13 after being denied tenure. (maybe)
Keith Fagnou, 38. Died November 11 of H1N1. His research focused on improving the preparation of complex molecules for petrochemical, pharmaceutical or industrial uses. Keith's advanced and out--of-the-box thinking overturned prior ideas of what is possible in the chemistry field.
Stephen Lagakos, 63. Died October 12 in an auto collision, wife, Regina, 61, and his mother, Helen, 94, were also killed in the crash, as was the driver of the other car, Stephen Krause,several fronts in the fight against AIDS
Malcolm Casadaban, 60. Died Sept. 13 of plague. Casadaban, a renowned molecular geneticist with a passion for new research, had been working to develop an even stronger vaccine for the plague.
Wallace L. Pannier, 81. Died Aug. 6 of respiratory failure and other natural causes. Pannier, a germ warfare scientist whose top-secret projects included a mock attack on the New York subway with powdered bacteria in 1966
August "Gus" Watanabe, 67. Died June 9, found dead outside a cabin in Brown County. Friends discovered the body, a .38-caliber handgun and a three-page note at the scene. Watanabe was one of the five highest-paid officers of Indianapolis pharmaceutical maker Eli Lilly and Co
Nasser Talebzadeh Ordoubadi, 53. Died February 14, of "suspicious" causes. pioneer of Mind-Body-Quantum medicine
Bruce Edwards Ivins, 62. Died July 29, of an overdose. Ivins was a coinventor on two US patents for anthrax vaccine technology.
Laurent Bonomo and Gabriel Ferez, both 23. Died July 3, after being bound, gagged, stabbed and set alight. Laurent, a student in the proteins that cause infectious disease, had been stabbed 196 times with half of them being administered to his back after he was dead. Gabriel, who hoped to become an expert in ecofriendly fuels, suffered 47 separate injuries.
Yongsheng Li, age 29. Died: sometime after 4 p.m. on March 10, when he was last seen as a result of unknown causes.studied receptor cells in Regents Professor David Puett's biochemistry and molecular biology laboratory.
Dr. Mario Alberto Vargas Olvera, age 52. Died: Oct. 6, 2007as a result of several blunt-force injuries to his head and neck. nationally and internationally recognized biologist.
Yoram Kaufman, age 57 (one day before his 58th birthday). Died: May 31, 2006when he was struck by an automobile while riding his bicycle near the Goddard center's campus in Greenbelt. NASA
Lee Jong-woo, age 61. Died: May 22, 2006after suffering a blood clot on the brain. Lee was spearheading the organization's fight against global threats from bird flu, AIDS and other infectious diseases.
Leonid Strachunsky. Died: June 8, 2005 after being hit on the head with a champagne bottle. Strachunsky specialized in creating microbes resistant to biological weapons.
Robert J. Lull, age 66. Died: May 19, 2005. nuclear medicine, politicaly active
Todd Kauppila, age 41. Died: May 8, 2005of hemorrhagic pancreatitis at the Los Alamos hospital, according to the state medical examiner's office. Picture of him was not available to due secret nature of his work. Scatter Reduction Grids in Megavolt Radiography.Kauppila was fired by director Pete Nanos on Sept. 23, 2004 following a security scandal.
David Banks, age 55. Died: May 8, 2005. Banks, based in North Queensland, died in an airplane crash, along with 14 others. He was known as an Agro Genius inventing the mosquito trap used for cattle.
Dr. Douglas James Passaro, age 43. Died April 18, 2005 from unknown cause Passaro was a brilliant epidemiologist who wanted to unlock the secrets of a spiral-shaped bacteria that causes stomach disease. He was a professor who challenged his students with real-life exercises in bioterrorism.
Geetha Angara, age 43. Died: February 8, 2005. doing water quality tests at the Passaic Valley Water Commission plant..
Jeong H. Im, age 72. Died: January 7, 2005. Korean Jeong H. Im, died of multiple stab wounds to the chest before firefighters found in his body in the trunk of a burning car, protein chemist
Darwin Kenneth Vest, born April 22, 1951, was an internationally renowned entomologist, expert on hobo spiders and other poisonous spiders and snakes
Tom Thorne, age 64; Beth Williams, age 53; Died: December 29, 2004. Two wild life scientists, Husband-and-wife wildlife veterinarians who were nationally prominent experts on chronic wasting disease
Taleb Ibrahim al-Daher. Died: December 21, 2004. Iraqi nuclear scientist was shot dead north of Baghdad by unknown gunmen. H
John R. La Montagne, age 61. Died: November 2, 2004. Died while in Mexico, no cause stated, later disclosed as pulmonary embolism. PhD, Head of US Infectious Diseases . AIDS
Matthew Allison, age 32. Died: October 13, 2004. Fatal explosion .molecular biology and biotechnology.
Mohammed Toki Hussein al-Talakani, age 40. Died: September 5, 2004: Iraqi nuclear scientist was shot dead
Professor John Clark, Age 52, Died: August 12, 2004. Found hanged in his holiday home. An expert in animal science and biotechnology.He played a crucial role in creating the transgenic sheep that earned the institute worldwide fame.
Dr. John Badwey, age 54. Died: July 21, 2004. Scientist and accidental politician when he opposed disposal of sewage waste program of exposing humans to sludge. Biochemist, infectious diseases.
Dr. Bassem al-Mudares. Died: July 21, 2004. Mutilated body was found in the city of Samarra, Iraq*. He was a Phd. chemist and had been tortured before being killed. He was a drug company worker who had a chemistry doctorate.
Professor Stephen Tabet, age 42. Died on July 6, 2004 from an unknown illness. He was an associate professor and epidemiologist . HIV. Vacine
Dr. Larry Bustard, age 53. Died July 2, 2004 from unknown causes. He was a Sandia scientist in the Department of Energy. expert in bioterrorism
Edward Hoffman, ag2. Die 6ed July 1, 2004 from unknown causes. Hoffman was a professor and a scientist. He worked to develop the first human PET scanner
John Mullen, age 67. Died: June 29, 2004. A Nuclear physicist poisoned with a huge dose of arsenic. A nuclear research
Dr. Paul Norman, age 52. Died: June 27, 2004. From Salisbury Wiltshire. Killed when the single-engine Cessna 206 he was piloting crashed in Devon. Expert in chemical and biological weapons.
Dr. Assefa Tulu, age 45. Died: June 24, 2004. Dr. Tulu joined the health department in 1997 and served for five years as the county's lone epidemiologist.
Thomas Gold, age 84. Died: June 22, 2004. Austrian born Thomas Gold famous over the years for a variety of bold theories that flout conventional wisdom and reported in his 1998 book, "The Deep Hot Biosphere," the idea challenges the accepted wisdom of how oil and natural gas are formed and, along the way, proposes a new theory of the beginnings of life on Earth and potentially on other planets.
Antonina Presnyakova, age 46. Died: May 25, 2004. A Russian scientist at a former Soviet biological weapons laboratory in Siberia died after an accident with a needle laced with ebola.
Dr. Eugene Mallove, age 56. Died: May 14, 2004. Autopsy confirmed Mallove died as a result of several blunt-force injuries to his head and neck. "new energy research."
William T. McGuire, age 39. Found May 5, 2004, last seen late April 2004. Body found in three suitcases floating in Chesapeake Bay. world's leading microbiologists and an expert in developing and overseeing multiple levels of biocontainment facilities
Ilsley Ingram, age 84. Died on April 12, 2004 from unknown causes. Ingram was Director of the Supraregional Haemophilia Reference Centre and the Supraregional Centre for the Diagnosis of Bleeding Disorders at the St. Thomas Hospital in London. Although his age is most likely the reason for his death, why wasn't this confirmed by the family in the news media?
Mohammed Munim al-Izmerly, Died: April 2004. This distinguished Iraqi chemistry professor died in American custody from a sudden hit to the back of his head caused by blunt trauma.the cause of death was initially recorded as "brainstem compression". It was discovered that US doctors had made a 20cm incision in his skull.
Vadake Srinivasan, Died: March 13, 2004.Microbiologist crashed car into guard rail in Baton Rouge, LA. Death was ruled a stroke. He was originally from India, was one of the most-accomplished and respected industrial biologists in academia, and held two doctorate degrees.
Dr. Michael Patrick Kiley, age 62. Died: January 24, 2004. Died of massive heart attack. Ebola, Mad Cow Expert, top of the line world class. It is interesting to note, he had a good heart, but it "gave out". Dr. Shope and Dr. Kiley were working on the lab upgrade to BSL 4 at the UTMB Galvaston
http://www.stevequayle.com/?s=146
http://www.stevequayle.com/?s=146
21 January 2015 20:19
Margus Meigo commented on Jack Russel's post.
get a job man!
21 January 2015 20:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
so in where of the world people pick these 74 numbers?
Hmmm
Hmmm
21 January 2015 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
some interestng comments on comment section.. but still nothing.
https://ricochet.com/archives/50-nasa-scientists-against-global-warming/
https://ricochet.com/archives/50-nasa-scientists-against-global-warming/
https://ricochet.com/archives/50-nasa-scientists-against-global-warming/
21 January 2015 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
nothing here.. but still
http://listverse.com/2013/06/27/10-people-who-blew-the-whistle-on-the-us-government/
http://listverse.com/2013/06/27/10-people-who-blew-the-whistle-on-the-us-government/
http://listverse.com/2013/06/27/10-people-who-blew-the-whistle-on-the-us-government/
21 January 2015 19:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
More about old story:
“We know nothing about the threatening email received by Sony staffers,” GOP wrote. “But you should wisely judge by yourself why such things are happening and who is responsible for it.”
Sony Pictures suffered one of the worst cyber attacks in recent memory after intruders claim to have made off with as much as 100 terabytes of internal information including salaries, social security numbers, passwords, sales plans and four unreleased feature films.
The group calling itself the Guardians of Peace said it has made an unspecified demand of Sony, which management has “refused to accept.” This is the first time GOP has suggested some form of extortion.
“We are sending you our warning again,” GOP wrote in a post on the online collaboration site GitHub. “Do carry out our demand if you want to escape us.”
GOP also called on Sony to halt distribution of what it called “the movie of terrorism” — a reference to “The Interview,” a comedy starring Seth Rogen and James Franco as TV journalists chosen to conduct a rare interview with North Korea leader Kim Jong-Un. The two are then recruited by the CIA to try and assassinate Kim.
“Stop immediately showing the movie of terrorism which can break the regional peace and cause the War!” the hacking group wrote in its latest communication.
http://recode.net/2014/12/08/sony-hacker-leaks-more-internal-documents-issues-demand/
“We know nothing about the threatening email received by Sony staffers,” GOP wrote. “But you should wisely judge by yourself why such things are happening and who is responsible for it.”
Sony Pictures suffered one of the worst cyber attacks in recent memory after intruders claim to have made off with as much as 100 terabytes of internal information including salaries, social security numbers, passwords, sales plans and four unreleased feature films.
The group calling itself the Guardians of Peace said it has made an unspecified demand of Sony, which management has “refused to accept.” This is the first time GOP has suggested some form of extortion.
“We are sending you our warning again,” GOP wrote in a post on the online collaboration site GitHub. “Do carry out our demand if you want to escape us.”
GOP also called on Sony to halt distribution of what it called “the movie of terrorism” — a reference to “The Interview,” a comedy starring Seth Rogen and James Franco as TV journalists chosen to conduct a rare interview with North Korea leader Kim Jong-Un. The two are then recruited by the CIA to try and assassinate Kim.
“Stop immediately showing the movie of terrorism which can break the regional peace and cause the War!” the hacking group wrote in its latest communication.
http://recode.net/2014/12/08/sony-hacker-leaks-more-internal-documents-issues-demand/
http://recode.net/2014/12/08/sony-hacker-leaks-more-internal-documents-issues-demand/
21 January 2015 12:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Yeah, flood the internet sony, way to go
21 January 2015 12:19
Margus Meigo commented on Jane Kruus's photo.
Wau, Sul on päris kena kiilasus : )
21 January 2015 09:45
Margus Meigo commented on Arne Türkson's post.
Group: Sulle-kes sa kõnnid vaimsel teerajal ja vajad teekaaslast, hingesugulast...
Vau, soovitati ja jäi mul vaatamata.. kas keegi Youtube on ülesse pannud ?20 January 2015 10:23
Margus Meigo commented on Reymark Gamo's post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
Amen20 January 2015 05:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
But besides the headace am all good, just need a activation..
20 January 2015 05:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
just want to take a wet towel and wip ower a neck on some of these upper class there (mostly for not wipping the lower middle class for becoming normal but just for being in delusion that is not their business to take care of world in thoughts at least... )
Seriouslly, why alwasy the crzy people have to ake care for everything (maybe becouse we know we can and want to, dare to commit a sin for betterment of bringing out the slowly in sins sinking ship ? ... Well.. some might say "Noa... great job for saving us.. what now? Why besides saving us you did also forget to care for our pinafore and wipe our butt, daily? " (wasnt jesus here for teaching you, how to do that, to be normal part of the crew... hey.. that was "long time ago" .. who cares (the ones who will stay alive, eventually)))
Seriouslly, why alwasy the crzy people have to ake care for everything (maybe becouse we know we can and want to, dare to commit a sin for betterment of bringing out the slowly in sins sinking ship ? ... Well.. some might say "Noa... great job for saving us.. what now? Why besides saving us you did also forget to care for our pinafore and wipe our butt, daily? " (wasnt jesus here for teaching you, how to do that, to be normal part of the crew... hey.. that was "long time ago" .. who cares (the ones who will stay alive, eventually)))
20 January 2015 05:00
Margus Meigo commented on David Dickson's post.
Group: Linux Friends
long live pre windows 98SE times20 January 2015 04:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
i know, i felt also that it is more like symbolic and "polite" way to say... "ha-ha-ha"
20 January 2015 01:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ja samm veel tõsisemaks
Uus mood on hoida kodus meest,
Olla ta võiks ju ka koera eest?
Kuid kas ta teenib pappi.
Või pritsib lihtsalt tatti?
Teleka ees vaid haisu teeb .
Tundub kõik on läind.
Kas seintel on lanti, et püüda tonti.
Pead otsima veel üht õiget meest.
Sa kuula nüüd!
Kui must on meel,
Kõik sees sul keeb.
Kõik pulbitseb, kõik on ju ees!
Ust lahti teed, las läeb se mees.
Neid palju veel .
Kui must on meel.
Kõik see sul keeb.
Hing pulbitseb.
Kõik on ju ees.
Ust lahti teed, las läeb see mees.
On palju neid juu veel ees.
Kas kodustatud mees saab olla truu.
Naq Voikast toome kuusepuu.
Ta ollal võiks ka madis, kui ta jutt ei oleks kali.
Päeval-ööl ta närve sööb, nii ükskord siiber saab.
Saadad põrgu taa kas kartma lööd, sul aega on, ees ootab öö.
Sa kuula nüüd!
Kui must on meel, kõik sees sul keeb.
Kõik pulbuitseb kõik on ju ees.
Ust lahti teed, las läeb se mees.
Neid palju veel.
Kui must on meel, kõik sees sul keeb.
Kõik pulbitseb, kõik on ju ees.
Ust lahti teed, las läeb se mees.
On palju neid ju veel ees.
Kui must on meel, kõik sees sul keeb.
Kõik pulbuitseb kõik on ju ees.
Ust lahti teed, las läeb se mees.
Neid palju veel.
Kui must on meel, kõik sees sul keeb.
Kõik pulbitseb, kõik on ju ees.
Ust lahti teed, las läeb se mees.
On palju neid ju veel ees.
Kui must on meel, kõik sees sul keeb.
Kõik pulbuitseb kõik on ju ees.
Ust lahti teed, las läeb se mees.
Neid palju veel.
Kui must on meel, kõik sees sul keeb.
Kõik pulbitseb, kõik on ju ees.
Ust lahti teed, las läeb se mees.
On palju neid ju veel ees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm3vXauAelY
Uus mood on hoida kodus meest,
Olla ta võiks ju ka koera eest?
Kuid kas ta teenib pappi.
Või pritsib lihtsalt tatti?
Teleka ees vaid haisu teeb .
Tundub kõik on läind.
Kas seintel on lanti, et püüda tonti.
Pead otsima veel üht õiget meest.
Sa kuula nüüd!
Kui must on meel,
Kõik sees sul keeb.
Kõik pulbitseb, kõik on ju ees!
Ust lahti teed, las läeb se mees.
Neid palju veel .
Kui must on meel.
Kõik see sul keeb.
Hing pulbitseb.
Kõik on ju ees.
Ust lahti teed, las läeb see mees.
On palju neid juu veel ees.
Kas kodustatud mees saab olla truu.
Naq Voikast toome kuusepuu.
Ta ollal võiks ka madis, kui ta jutt ei oleks kali.
Päeval-ööl ta närve sööb, nii ükskord siiber saab.
Saadad põrgu taa kas kartma lööd, sul aega on, ees ootab öö.
Sa kuula nüüd!
Kui must on meel, kõik sees sul keeb.
Kõik pulbuitseb kõik on ju ees.
Ust lahti teed, las läeb se mees.
Neid palju veel.
Kui must on meel, kõik sees sul keeb.
Kõik pulbitseb, kõik on ju ees.
Ust lahti teed, las läeb se mees.
On palju neid ju veel ees.
Kui must on meel, kõik sees sul keeb.
Kõik pulbuitseb kõik on ju ees.
Ust lahti teed, las läeb se mees.
Neid palju veel.
Kui must on meel, kõik sees sul keeb.
Kõik pulbitseb, kõik on ju ees.
Ust lahti teed, las läeb se mees.
On palju neid ju veel ees.
Kui must on meel, kõik sees sul keeb.
Kõik pulbuitseb kõik on ju ees.
Ust lahti teed, las läeb se mees.
Neid palju veel.
Kui must on meel, kõik sees sul keeb.
Kõik pulbitseb, kõik on ju ees.
Ust lahti teed, las läeb se mees.
On palju neid ju veel ees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm3vXauAelY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm3vXauAelY
20 January 2015 00:52
Margus Meigo commented on Jack Russel's post.
(but i know what you mean, have looked it like that in past for a time as well, kind of)
19 January 2015 22:54
Margus Meigo commented on Jack Russel's post.
but no worryes.. eventually, alwasy, friends will come and save , even if you end up in this kind of world
19 January 2015 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on Jack Russel's post.
then when there is no hope left for this group of people who will be prisoned to darkness for ever
19 January 2015 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-TerfywuJ-NpWr32B7zGTxJaElARdjsUjxM2LF2dIfw/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-TerfywuJ-NpWr32B7zGTxJaElARdjsUjxM2LF2dIfw/edit?usp=sharing
19 January 2015 16:51
Margus Meigo commented on Andreina Luciana Amicucci's post.
Group: Galactic Federation of Light
This is proper picture of true19 January 2015 08:47
Margus Meigo commented on Ingrid Peek's photo.
Telletubbies brother
19 January 2015 06:45
Margus Meigo commented on Etnoteka's post.
väga hea ajastusega pildid, vau : )
5+ kes tegi
5+ kes tegi
18 January 2015 05:17
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
careful with that now..
18 January 2015 01:11
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
but its not like we start bombing or anything.. jet.
We just pray that all the humanaty will be evaporated who do wrong . )
We just pray that all the humanaty will be evaporated who do wrong . )
18 January 2015 00:38
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
ok thats fuckedup
18 January 2015 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
often kind of beings liek that are involved: http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/pp5279e83b.png
actually they do that a lot, it is basic practise but usually other nation people are used as no one is counting them in news (you know there is million people die every year for starvation and all that... loeas of souls in these kind of world anyone can buy or snap of... sometimes they have special need for few whites as well.... but only sometimes.. as most of us are giving our body up in origy anyway (and if she went to origy.. what kind of people we expect to find there, god serving?))
...but yeah.. there is to many tools wand ways to make people to do these things..
(this is clip from a video of one split 1/16 of second http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread971158/pg7 from beings who can make you sleep and pass time... this was allowed to be shown for situation explaining or for some other similar reason, some higer beings allowed that unless it was painted... but even then, there is a reason to let us know..)
actually they do that a lot, it is basic practise but usually other nation people are used as no one is counting them in news (you know there is million people die every year for starvation and all that... loeas of souls in these kind of world anyone can buy or snap of... sometimes they have special need for few whites as well.... but only sometimes.. as most of us are giving our body up in origy anyway (and if she went to origy.. what kind of people we expect to find there, god serving?))
...but yeah.. there is to many tools wand ways to make people to do these things..
(this is clip from a video of one split 1/16 of second http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread971158/pg7 from beings who can make you sleep and pass time... this was allowed to be shown for situation explaining or for some other similar reason, some higer beings allowed that unless it was painted... but even then, there is a reason to let us know..)
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/pp5279e83b.png
18 January 2015 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's post.
probabaly he was smart enought to put loads of proof data about it to many sources around the world to be activated after hes death .. justin case
18 January 2015 00:28
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
spacious
18 January 2015 00:25
Margus Meigo commented on Risto Viitasaari's post.
Best luck flying
18 January 2015 00:23
Margus Meigo commented on Nelly Baer Rocabo's post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
Yes
(but still think God is more..)18 January 2015 00:22
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
Ebola was just a training for actual virus test scenario they had program that need to be prepared for.
"for greater good" lie to people, you know
"for greater good" lie to people, you know
18 January 2015 00:22
Margus Meigo commented on Mati Olen Oja's post.
Mis eelmine oli ?
17 January 2015 14:37
Margus Meigo commented on Mati Olen Oja's photo.
a bit to muich pentagrammy
...sumerians already had something to say about pentagram, and that was not cute
...sumerians already had something to say about pentagram, and that was not cute
17 January 2015 14:36
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Hastey's photo.
nope, 1983-05 here,
as am told ;)
as am told ;)
17 January 2015 13:38
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Hastey's post.
seriouslly, the mask thing pisses me off one way, i can get that, but the tie.. this WE MUST LOSE, this is like joke on activist, make them promote tie.
17 January 2015 13:36
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Hastey's photo.
no, i am 1983-05 ;)
17 January 2015 13:33
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's link.
just lose the stars and fly faster, higer, better
17 January 2015 13:28
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's link.
i think they CAN also do no wrong,
they can also do wrong if they try
it is like freedom of chouice u know
they can also do wrong if they try
it is like freedom of chouice u know
17 January 2015 13:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Anonymous VS Freemasonry
Good, one vote at least17 January 2015 13:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Why would you not accept contributions from " U.S. or any foreign government, charities, or official or quasi-official institutions" are you like socialy retarded or something ?
I would, even if am open up " Anti-Democracy Now! LSD and the Search for God Cannabis Activist Network " - i would be insulted, if doing their job and they would not even want to contribute, would mark down all goverment organizations and people who does not contribute
---
Why someone might think it is a bit.. fishy, that DHS quating from them and they say they not wanna take part of US Gov help.. but same time have all these five stars and ...
One more note, the website is run by people from: Southpaw Associates
From who three frist people on page:
David Williams (Chief of Staff for three members of Congress, managed political campaigns, worked as radio and television reporter, directed the political arm of one of the nation’s most effective advocacy organizations, and toiled in the trenches for organized labor.)
Casey Frary: (She has worked in Congress, for a non-profit advocacy organization, and on numerous electoral campaigns.)
Morgan Hill: (Army National Guard, Director of administrator for Nels Mitchell for hes running to be the next US Senator for Idaho, Idaho Young Democrats, Campaign ManagerBetty Richardson for Senate, Campaign ManagerDurst for Idaho, Chief of Staff - House Minority CaucusIdaho State House of Representatives, Campaign ManagerLauren McLean for Boise City Council, Campaign ManagerDistrict 19 Coordinated Legislative Campaign (Idaho), Volunteer CoordinatorAllred for Idaho and InterFaith Alliance )
"Interfaith Alliance's concern is that religion and the United States government are becoming dangerously entangled. Interfaith Alliance believes that religion is being manipulated as a tool to influence policy and advance political strategy. Interfaith Alliance works to ensure the sanctity of religion and the integrity of politics. The group also supports an end to discrimination based on sexual orientation."
- and the last part, is CLEAR sing, that they can not, really, be religiously educated, enlightened or someone.. of the league who can have FAIR say about islams and other abrahamic lot,
Just one more note, to tie up some nots for new ones: five stars govs around the world, the anti religion demo-crazy front line and fake "we down with homies from street" (common people, against state campaings) are all from one source,
real people are really clear about their religion borders and will not bolloc u with demoncrazy
I would, even if am open up " Anti-Democracy Now! LSD and the Search for God Cannabis Activist Network " - i would be insulted, if doing their job and they would not even want to contribute, would mark down all goverment organizations and people who does not contribute
---
Why someone might think it is a bit.. fishy, that DHS quating from them and they say they not wanna take part of US Gov help.. but same time have all these five stars and ...
One more note, the website is run by people from: Southpaw Associates
From who three frist people on page:
David Williams (Chief of Staff for three members of Congress, managed political campaigns, worked as radio and television reporter, directed the political arm of one of the nation’s most effective advocacy organizations, and toiled in the trenches for organized labor.)
Casey Frary: (She has worked in Congress, for a non-profit advocacy organization, and on numerous electoral campaigns.)
Morgan Hill: (Army National Guard, Director of administrator for Nels Mitchell for hes running to be the next US Senator for Idaho, Idaho Young Democrats, Campaign ManagerBetty Richardson for Senate, Campaign ManagerDurst for Idaho, Chief of Staff - House Minority CaucusIdaho State House of Representatives, Campaign ManagerLauren McLean for Boise City Council, Campaign ManagerDistrict 19 Coordinated Legislative Campaign (Idaho), Volunteer CoordinatorAllred for Idaho and InterFaith Alliance )
"Interfaith Alliance's concern is that religion and the United States government are becoming dangerously entangled. Interfaith Alliance believes that religion is being manipulated as a tool to influence policy and advance political strategy. Interfaith Alliance works to ensure the sanctity of religion and the integrity of politics. The group also supports an end to discrimination based on sexual orientation."
- and the last part, is CLEAR sing, that they can not, really, be religiously educated, enlightened or someone.. of the league who can have FAIR say about islams and other abrahamic lot,
Just one more note, to tie up some nots for new ones: five stars govs around the world, the anti religion demo-crazy front line and fake "we down with homies from street" (common people, against state campaings) are all from one source,
real people are really clear about their religion borders and will not bolloc u with demoncrazy
17 January 2015 12:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
xD
"The American Center for Democracy is an independent not for profit organization that does not accept contributions from the U.S. or any foreign government, charities, or official or quasi-official institutions. The ACD is dedicated to exposing and monitoring threats to political and economic freedoms and its national security from within and without. We provide knowledge based analysis and risk assessment... "
Seems legit
"The American Center for Democracy is an independent not for profit organization that does not accept contributions from the U.S. or any foreign government, charities, or official or quasi-official institutions. The ACD is dedicated to exposing and monitoring threats to political and economic freedoms and its national security from within and without. We provide knowledge based analysis and risk assessment... "
Seems legit
17 January 2015 12:27
Margus Meigo commented on Vello Nelikendkaks's photo.
need automaadi pildid panevad küll kinnitust teooriale, et siin tulnukad ammu asja üle võtnud, igavaks läinud ja nüüd lihtsalt teevad nalja ja mõnitavad inimesi
17 January 2015 10:02
Margus Meigo commented on Vello Nelikendkaks's photo.
see pidigi hull olema kes kollasest joonest üle julges minna
17 January 2015 10:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
IMDB: "I remember when this movie was first shown on HBO...it had the kind of gripping action that made you sit, watch, and fear for your life...the actors did a great job of realistically portraying their roles...with special kudos to Patrick Watson as Don Tobin and Helen Shaver as Dorian Waldorf...Watson's uneasiness at the end of the movie does not spoil the ending, which will set the hair on your neck straight up and send chills down your spine...but it does provide a view into what might face the American public should the unthinkable occur...add this movie to the growing list of selections that should have been out on DVD way before now...it is dated to some extent, but the overall premise still rings true...and will scare the daylights out of you..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knSSUEdLcvg
But perhaps peple are in many parts of world, so numb, that will loook all that as just a holliwood movie.. looking for special effects and sexynes.. and will pass it as "boring" ?
Everything is Possible
U ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knSSUEdLcvg
But perhaps peple are in many parts of world, so numb, that will loook all that as just a holliwood movie.. looking for special effects and sexynes.. and will pass it as "boring" ?
Everything is Possible
U ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knSSUEdLcvg
17 January 2015 04:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
IMDB: "This is perhaps one of the most masochistic films ever made. You are taken into the personal world of two British families in Sheffield (site of a major NATO installation), who have children that are about to be married. Thousands of miles away, World War 3 slowly starts, and the ultimate horror happens. Thermonuclear war breaks out. The world, literally, grinds to a halt, in one of the most scientifically accurate depictions of nuclear war since "War Game, The" (1965). Unlike the US film "Day After, The" (1983) (TV), the film gives detailed information as to what is happening on a scientific basis. You are shown how a worst-case scenario can happen, and what the effects are, as you follow the surviving members of the two families through the aftermath. The scenes of death, destruction and disease are so realistic, I had to shower after seeing this film for the first time. But what is most disturbing is that the film includes the long-term effects of global thermonuclear war, going into weeks, months, years, even decades. The film ends thirteen years after the nuclear attack, and the final frames of the film will burn into you like no other film ever will. There can be no question that this film MUST be re-released in the USA on DVD, so that it's message will be heard and felt."
https://vimeo.com/18781528
https://vimeo.com/18781528
https://vimeo.com/18781528
17 January 2015 04:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This is the Newsnight Nuclear Debate that was originally broadcast just after the BBC first showed Barry Hines' 'Threads' and 'On the 8th Day'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0VcT-XWb7M
(I always heard how "Threads" made "The Day After" look like an after school special, and had been looking for a copy for a long time (since when I hear that a movie is shocking and upsetting, it usually makes me want to see if it can live up to the buzz). I finally found a store that carries it, but you know what? After getting nightmares after seeing "The Day After" as an adult, I think I'll just pass on "Threads"... ")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0VcT-XWb7M
(I always heard how "Threads" made "The Day After" look like an after school special, and had been looking for a copy for a long time (since when I hear that a movie is shocking and upsetting, it usually makes me want to see if it can live up to the buzz). I finally found a store that carries it, but you know what? After getting nightmares after seeing "The Day After" as an adult, I think I'll just pass on "Threads"... ")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0VcT-XWb7M
17 January 2015 04:34
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Miks's post.
Kõige ilusamaid soove minu poolt ka ! :))
16 January 2015 17:40
Margus Meigo commented on Alar Ehala's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Kristlik maailm seda just väga hästi mõistab ja ka seda, millal välja naerda see mis selgelt pole püha vaid imitatsioon, tõest eemale viimiseks. Päris kristlased siis, mitte need kes Kreeka-Rooma mõttemaailma järgi ennast usuvad kristlased olevat
muidugi jah, kahtlane, kas tegu üldse oli moslemi usulistega... ja kogu see teema, et võimalusi oli NII palju kuidas elusalt neid vangi võtta (unegaasid, lained, jms), et teada saada kas neid veel ja mida plaanivad, kuid käsk anti kohe maha lasta
nägude järgi ka nad eriti usulised ei tundunud
___
ja päris moslem, muidugi midagi selist ei teeks,seda nad OLEKS pidanudka igas uudises rääkima, kui rahu soovivad, lisaks sellele, et need koomiksid haiged on. ... kuid selle asemel, tehti sedasi, et neid koomikseid üle maailma veel sadades kordades rohkem vaadatakse.
ja sedasi.. , et konflikt mõlemal poolel tõuseks (arvestades, et see sõjaväe programm, selles pole midagi imelikku, et nii tehakse, kuid miks üle maailma, nii nõrgad ühesuunalised arusaamad lääne meedias selle kohta on... näidates, me arulagedust, analüüsivõimetust usurahvastele )16 January 2015 16:20
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Lelov's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
selline kontroll, poliitikud üldse ei või oma arvamust avaldada, kohe sunnitakse poliitiliselt korrektsed (ehk siis arvamuseta) olema16 January 2015 16:01
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Lelov's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Ei reageerinud ta midagi üle, alareageerisja jäi viiskause piiresse16 January 2015 15:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Anonymous VS Freemasonry
BUt spelling is terrible, You are right
options are more easy thought16 January 2015 15:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Anonymous VS Freemasonry
NO votes? You gotta be shitting me, from 9000 member.s
What is hard, : MASONS made Anonymous is more real (is that more real, that masons made anonymous)
or Anonymous Made Freemasons is Unreal (is that unreal?)
... so16 January 2015 15:44
Margus Meigo commented on Riho Palis's post.
Siitpoolt ka veel, ühed õnned : )
16 January 2015 15:38
Margus Meigo commented on Riho Palis's post.
so XII
in all ?
in all ?
16 January 2015 15:38
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Grünthal's post.
Group: Ööülikool - Radio Night University
Ennast soovitan,mõne aja pärast16 January 2015 15:31
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek J's link.
Uuri mul sõbra Gert Klaaseri käest, kuigi ta eliidimate ratastega kuid ehk seda ka vaja läheb
16 January 2015 15:29
Margus Meigo commented on Alar Ehala's post.
Group: EKRE Sõprade Klubi
Tegu pole poliitiliste vastaste, vaid elu mõnitamisega, harjutades inimesi madalale standardile arusaamade osas mis on ja mis poel sobilik,
Hanno Pevkur ütles täiesti õigesti, et nad ise kutsusid selle esile. Oleks siis, et heatahtlikud, arendavad ja targemaks tegevad koomiksid, mis aitavad teineteisel mõista ja kokku saada... kuid ei..
sellisel tasemel osad need kirjutised ja arusaamad inimestel, et paha hakkab16 January 2015 06:18
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
to be honest, even man to man is to much actually it seems, as they still keep the millitary going, as it would be nessessaty ..
but hey, besides that, good post George, for sure, ..something good becomes to know for more people from that aswell.. about where is our mind and all that
but hey, besides that, good post George, for sure, ..something good becomes to know for more people from that aswell.. about where is our mind and all that
16 January 2015 06:15
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
or human to flower... or even a cat
16 January 2015 06:14
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
omg.. CBI. B2B... they have all god market sounding shortnames for all that already.
What a bout heart to heart (H2H) and Spirit to Soul body communications....
What a bout heart to heart (H2H) and Spirit to Soul body communications....
16 January 2015 06:13
Margus Meigo commented on Liis Pajupuu's post.
Group: Jutt kuue (6) sõnaga!
Siilitüdrik siidine silkas pesudevahelt avalikusesse15 January 2015 15:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Wish am would have had better way to picture that all, happened many times..
even better would have speak about what they sing about
even better would have speak about what they sing about
15 January 2015 15:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The Temple of the True Inner Light is a temple in Manhattan which believes Entheogens such as Di-Propyl-Tryptamine, Marijuana, LSD, Mescaline, Psilocybin, Di-Methyl-Tryptamine and others to be the true flesh of God, and that all religions are based upon the psychedelic experience.
Their Eucharist is Di-Propyl-Tryptamine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_the_True_Inner_Light
http://psychede.tripod.com/
Their Eucharist is Di-Propyl-Tryptamine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_the_True_Inner_Light
http://psychede.tripod.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_the_True_Inner_Light
15 January 2015 13:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Anonymous VS Freemasonry
.:.15 January 2015 11:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(from the http://finshaggy.blogspot.com/2014/12/churches-you-might-think-are-strange.html)
Thanks Sasa
Thanks Sasa
http://finshaggy.blogspot.com/2014/12/churches-you-might-think-are-strange.html
15 January 2015 10:59
Margus Meigo commented on Sasha Gallagher's post.
Group: mystical humanoids
Holy-moly15 January 2015 10:58
Margus Meigo commented on Claire Khaw's post.
Group: Patriarchy v Matriarchy
"fall of western sivilizations" sounds so funny and ironic on Earth people eyes as for us, the Western civilization , as of the Greek-Roman seed was the biggest fall that ever happened.. that we now try to recover by turning it in to Matriarchy15 January 2015 08:12
Margus Meigo commented on Steven Pinker's photo.
Actually we Will have perfect world, and it is only smart thing, to work for it, so You will reach there faster as well
15 January 2015 01:52
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's link.
one of these, real americans
14 January 2015 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
hahahaha, good one Andrei, suspected he might be one of the ones :p
14 January 2015 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's post.
I was on my news feed only seeing "Elizabeth Warren Takes Out Obama's Wall.." and thought she lived her self out on obamas facebook wall or something whorst with wall..
14 January 2015 01:08
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
Well, if there is meat inside, time to remove, if they are veggie pasties, rise up and save the food!
14 January 2015 01:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(tegelikult ei näinud eriti üldse vaeva)
ma lihtsalt usun, et Eestikeelt teise keelde tõlkides, peakime alles jätma nii kuidas asjad meie keeles kirjutatakse, mitte ümber keerama sõnad teise keele reeglite järgi, sest sedasi läheme libedale teele, kus ei tea mida võib kaduma minna... (karval võib muidugi vana inglise õige tõlge ka olla.. kuid ma eelistan masina tõlget enamasti, kuigi.. ka too on juba üllatavalt loovaks läinud, avastanud.. )
ma lihtsalt usun, et Eestikeelt teise keelde tõlkides, peakime alles jätma nii kuidas asjad meie keeles kirjutatakse, mitte ümber keerama sõnad teise keele reeglite järgi, sest sedasi läheme libedale teele, kus ei tea mida võib kaduma minna... (karval võib muidugi vana inglise õige tõlge ka olla.. kuid ma eelistan masina tõlget enamasti, kuigi.. ka too on juba üllatavalt loovaks läinud, avastanud.. )
13 January 2015 23:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
NU jah aga ma nägin ikka tõisiselt vaeva ka, et selle google translatoriga tõlgitu, nii algelisse versiooni jätta kui saab, et ta oleks otse tõlge, jättes alles sama sõnade järjekorra mis eestikeeles
13 January 2015 23:11
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's photo.
Oi, meil just 6-7 noid maja taga oli : )
13 January 2015 22:45
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Tark laps
13 January 2015 20:01
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
yea epic Tom
13 January 2015 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Põrgus on kolm katelt. Esimese katla juures on
kõige tugevam valve, seal keevad soomlased. Kui üks hakkab põgenema,
siis teised kõik aitavad seda ühte.
Teise katla juures on nõrk valve, seal keevad venelased. Kui üks hakkab põgenema, siis teised vaatavad pealt.
Kolmanda katla juures polegi valvet, seal on eestlased. Kui üks hakkab põgenema, siis teised tirivad ta tagasi.
* * *
Kõnnib eestlane tänaval ja kohtub nelja venelasega. Venelased: "Suitsu on?"
Eestlane: "Ma ei suitseta."
Venelased: "Peksa tahad saada?"
Eestlane: "See on ebaaus, teie olete neljakesi, mina üksi."
Dima (venelaste pealik) ütleb Vasjale, et mine eestlase poolele.
Eestlane: "Ikka ebaaus, teie kolmekesi, meie kahekesi."
Dima ütleb Petjale, et mine eestlase poolele.
Eestlane: "Ikka ebaaus, meie kolmekesi, teie kahekesi."
Dima eestlasele: "Sina mine minema, me lahendame ise selle ära."
* * *
Eestlane on Peipsil kalal ja saabki kätte
kuldkalakese. See anub: lase mind lahti, ma täidan su kolm soovi.
Eestlane peksab kuldkalakese põlve vastu surnuks ja lausub: "Patšemu ne
govoriš na estonskom jazõke?"
* * *
Kohtuvad Soome, Roots ja Eesti peaminister. Jutuks tulevad inimeste sissetulekud.
Soomlane teatab, et nende omad teenivad
keskmiselt 6000. Sellest maksudeks läheb 2000, eluasemele 1500. Aga mis
nad ülejäänuga teevad? "Ah, kurat seda teab," vastab soomlane.
Rootslane ütleb, et nendel teenivad inimesed
umbes 7000. Maksudeks kulub 3000, eluasemele 1000. Aga mis nad
ülejäänuga teevad? "Ah, kurat seda teab," vastab rootslane.
Eestlane teatab, et neil teenivad inimesed
umbes 1000. Maksudeks kulub 600 ja eluasemele kulub 600. Aga kust nad
ülejäänud saavad? "Ah, kurat seda teab," vastab eestlane.
* * *
Sakslane kohtub jumalaga ja küsib: "Mitme aasta pärast saavad sakslased õnnelikuks?"
"Saja," vastab Jumal.
Sakslane puhkeb nutma ja lahkub.
Venelane kohtub Jumalaga ja küsib: "Mitme aasta pärast saavad venelased õnnelikuks?"
"Tuhande," vastab Jumal.
Venelane puhkeb nutma ja lahkub.
Eestlane kohtub Jumalaga ja küsib: "Mitme aasta pärast saavad eestlased õnnelikuks?"
Jumal puhkeb nutma ja lahkub!
* * *
Sünnitusmajas lähevad eestlase, lätlase ja
neegri laps segamini. Esimesena peab otsuse langetama eestlanna ja ilma
pikemalt mõtlemata valib välja neegrilapse. Koju jõudes teeb abikaasa
suured silmad:
"Miks sa siis neegri valisid?"
"No krt, siis on kindel vähemalt, et lätlane ei ole" vastab naine.
* * *
Sotši olümpiakülas olid WCd, kus oli kaks
potti ühes ruumis. Ajakirjanikele tehakse olümpiakülas presentatsioon ja
Eesti esindaja küsib, miks nii: kaks ühes ruumis. Venelane vastab, et
üks on lätlastele, teine leedulastele, eestlased kannatavad ära.
* * *
Lätlasel ja eestlasel on sama suur korter.
Lätlane helistab eestlasele, et konsulteerida, mitu tapeedirulli ta
ostis toaseinte tapeetimiseks.
Eestlane: "20."
Lätlane ostab sama koguse, tapeedib toa ära ja helistab vihaselt eestlasele: "Miks sa valetasid? Mul jäi kaheksa rulli üle!"
"Kõik on õige, mul ka!"
* * *
Eestlane sõidab veoautoga. Autol lähevad
ootamatult pidurid katki. Eestlane analüüsib kiiresti olukorda: kui
sõidan otse, siis kihutan majja, saan ise surma ja ei tea mitu elanikku
veel hukkub. Kui keeran paremale, põrutan turule ja sõidan paljudele
inimestele otsa. Kui keeran vasakule, siis sõidan otsa ainult ühele
poisikesele. Pole midagi teha, tuleb pöörata vasakule.
Järgmisel päeval on ajalehes uudis: "32
inimest hukkus raskes avariis" – kõik sai alguse sellest, et mingi
poisike hakkas jooksma turu poole.
* * *
Eestlane on kiire soomlane.
* * *
Tee ääres hääletab turist auto peale. Eestlane peatub.
"Öelge palun, kas Tallinn on kaugel?"
"Ei, ei ole." vastab juht.
"Kas võin peale istuda?"
"Istuge!"
Sõidavad pool tundi, linna ei kusagil.
"Kas Tallinn on veel kaugel?" uurib hääletaja uuesti.
"Jah, nüüd on juba päris kaugel."
* *
Ameeriklane, prantslane ja eestlane räägivad, kuidas nad oma naise kõrvalhüpetest teada saavad.
Prantslane: "Ma tulen koju. Küsin, oled sa
mulle sarvi teinud või mitte? Kui naine hakkab "ujuma" ja ütleb, et pole
teinud, nimetan ma suvalise mehe nime ja ta räägib mulle kõik ära!"
Ameeriklane: "Kui ma koju tulen, küsin samuti.
Kui ta vastab, et pole petnud, ütlen, et ei anna talle enam sentigi
raha ja ta räägib mulle kõik ära!"
Eestlane: "Ma lähen koju, kuid kõigepealt naabrinaise juurde. Ütlen: libu selline! Tema aga: mis mina, vaata su oma naine...."
* * *
Küsimus: mida teeb eestlane, kui Eesti koondis on võitnud jalgpalli MMi?
Vastus: lülitab PlayStationi välja ja läheb magama.
kõige tugevam valve, seal keevad soomlased. Kui üks hakkab põgenema,
siis teised kõik aitavad seda ühte.
Teise katla juures on nõrk valve, seal keevad venelased. Kui üks hakkab põgenema, siis teised vaatavad pealt.
Kolmanda katla juures polegi valvet, seal on eestlased. Kui üks hakkab põgenema, siis teised tirivad ta tagasi.
* * *
Kõnnib eestlane tänaval ja kohtub nelja venelasega. Venelased: "Suitsu on?"
Eestlane: "Ma ei suitseta."
Venelased: "Peksa tahad saada?"
Eestlane: "See on ebaaus, teie olete neljakesi, mina üksi."
Dima (venelaste pealik) ütleb Vasjale, et mine eestlase poolele.
Eestlane: "Ikka ebaaus, teie kolmekesi, meie kahekesi."
Dima ütleb Petjale, et mine eestlase poolele.
Eestlane: "Ikka ebaaus, meie kolmekesi, teie kahekesi."
Dima eestlasele: "Sina mine minema, me lahendame ise selle ära."
* * *
Eestlane on Peipsil kalal ja saabki kätte
kuldkalakese. See anub: lase mind lahti, ma täidan su kolm soovi.
Eestlane peksab kuldkalakese põlve vastu surnuks ja lausub: "Patšemu ne
govoriš na estonskom jazõke?"
* * *
Kohtuvad Soome, Roots ja Eesti peaminister. Jutuks tulevad inimeste sissetulekud.
Soomlane teatab, et nende omad teenivad
keskmiselt 6000. Sellest maksudeks läheb 2000, eluasemele 1500. Aga mis
nad ülejäänuga teevad? "Ah, kurat seda teab," vastab soomlane.
Rootslane ütleb, et nendel teenivad inimesed
umbes 7000. Maksudeks kulub 3000, eluasemele 1000. Aga mis nad
ülejäänuga teevad? "Ah, kurat seda teab," vastab rootslane.
Eestlane teatab, et neil teenivad inimesed
umbes 1000. Maksudeks kulub 600 ja eluasemele kulub 600. Aga kust nad
ülejäänud saavad? "Ah, kurat seda teab," vastab eestlane.
* * *
Sakslane kohtub jumalaga ja küsib: "Mitme aasta pärast saavad sakslased õnnelikuks?"
"Saja," vastab Jumal.
Sakslane puhkeb nutma ja lahkub.
Venelane kohtub Jumalaga ja küsib: "Mitme aasta pärast saavad venelased õnnelikuks?"
"Tuhande," vastab Jumal.
Venelane puhkeb nutma ja lahkub.
Eestlane kohtub Jumalaga ja küsib: "Mitme aasta pärast saavad eestlased õnnelikuks?"
Jumal puhkeb nutma ja lahkub!
* * *
Sünnitusmajas lähevad eestlase, lätlase ja
neegri laps segamini. Esimesena peab otsuse langetama eestlanna ja ilma
pikemalt mõtlemata valib välja neegrilapse. Koju jõudes teeb abikaasa
suured silmad:
"Miks sa siis neegri valisid?"
"No krt, siis on kindel vähemalt, et lätlane ei ole" vastab naine.
* * *
Sotši olümpiakülas olid WCd, kus oli kaks
potti ühes ruumis. Ajakirjanikele tehakse olümpiakülas presentatsioon ja
Eesti esindaja küsib, miks nii: kaks ühes ruumis. Venelane vastab, et
üks on lätlastele, teine leedulastele, eestlased kannatavad ära.
* * *
Lätlasel ja eestlasel on sama suur korter.
Lätlane helistab eestlasele, et konsulteerida, mitu tapeedirulli ta
ostis toaseinte tapeetimiseks.
Eestlane: "20."
Lätlane ostab sama koguse, tapeedib toa ära ja helistab vihaselt eestlasele: "Miks sa valetasid? Mul jäi kaheksa rulli üle!"
"Kõik on õige, mul ka!"
* * *
Eestlane sõidab veoautoga. Autol lähevad
ootamatult pidurid katki. Eestlane analüüsib kiiresti olukorda: kui
sõidan otse, siis kihutan majja, saan ise surma ja ei tea mitu elanikku
veel hukkub. Kui keeran paremale, põrutan turule ja sõidan paljudele
inimestele otsa. Kui keeran vasakule, siis sõidan otsa ainult ühele
poisikesele. Pole midagi teha, tuleb pöörata vasakule.
Järgmisel päeval on ajalehes uudis: "32
inimest hukkus raskes avariis" – kõik sai alguse sellest, et mingi
poisike hakkas jooksma turu poole.
* * *
Eestlane on kiire soomlane.
* * *
Tee ääres hääletab turist auto peale. Eestlane peatub.
"Öelge palun, kas Tallinn on kaugel?"
"Ei, ei ole." vastab juht.
"Kas võin peale istuda?"
"Istuge!"
Sõidavad pool tundi, linna ei kusagil.
"Kas Tallinn on veel kaugel?" uurib hääletaja uuesti.
"Jah, nüüd on juba päris kaugel."
* *
Ameeriklane, prantslane ja eestlane räägivad, kuidas nad oma naise kõrvalhüpetest teada saavad.
Prantslane: "Ma tulen koju. Küsin, oled sa
mulle sarvi teinud või mitte? Kui naine hakkab "ujuma" ja ütleb, et pole
teinud, nimetan ma suvalise mehe nime ja ta räägib mulle kõik ära!"
Ameeriklane: "Kui ma koju tulen, küsin samuti.
Kui ta vastab, et pole petnud, ütlen, et ei anna talle enam sentigi
raha ja ta räägib mulle kõik ära!"
Eestlane: "Ma lähen koju, kuid kõigepealt naabrinaise juurde. Ütlen: libu selline! Tema aga: mis mina, vaata su oma naine...."
* * *
Küsimus: mida teeb eestlane, kui Eesti koondis on võitnud jalgpalli MMi?
Vastus: lülitab PlayStationi välja ja läheb magama.
13 January 2015 19:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
"Enne sotsiaalmeedia leiutamist oli anekdoot kõige kiiremini suust suhu
kanduv tsensuurivaba kommunikatsioonivahend," arutleb suhtekorraldaja
Ivo Rull.
"Anekdootide levikut ei õnnestunud
võimukandjatel üheski totalitaarses ühiskonnas või diktatuuris
kontrollida ning seetõttu olid need hästi populaarsed."
Tõsi, Nõukogudemaal sai anekdootide levikut
pisut ikkagi kontrollida. Stalini kohta ju väideti, et ta kogub
anekdoote enda kohta: kaks laagrit on juba täis ja kolmandat ehitatakse.
Kõiki anekdoodirääkijaid ei suutnud kinni panna isegi stalinistlik
Venemaa.
"Mittekontrollitavus, nakkuvus ja naer kui
nõustumine," nimetab Ivo Rull kolm kahurit, mis muudavad anekdoodi
võitmatuks kindluseks.
Just
nimelt – kui kuulaja hakkab loo puändi peale naerma, on ta kuulduga
vähemalt osaliselt nõus. Mida laiem lagin, seda suurem tõenäosus, et
anekdoot levib nagu tuulerõuged lasteaias.
Eestlane, venelane ja sakslane istuvad vangis
Miks inimesed anekdoote räägivad?
"Klassikalised anekdoodid on ju kõik identiteedi loomise vahendid," märgib keeleteadlane Tiit Hennoste.
"Kõik need niinimetatud kolme rahvuse lood on
ju sellised, kus pannakse paigale iseenese tarkus ja teiste lollus.
Võrdluseks valitakse naabrid või need, keda on vaja lolliks teha."
Kõik on lapsena rääkinud lugusid, kuidas
eestlane, venelane ja sakslane istuvad vangis või lennukis ja lõpuks on
eestlane see, kes jamast kõige uljamalt välja ujub.
"Ka suur osa Juku-tüüpi anekdootidest loovad
laias mõttes pildi alluvast, kes on üle kellestki, kes asub temast
kõrgemal," jätkab Hennoste.
"Naljade funktsioon on ju alati olnud see, et
ma olen nalja kaudu kõrgem kellestki, kes on minust kas sotsiaalselt või
varanduslikult üle."
Kommunikatsiooniõppejõud Agu Uudelepp kiidab
Hennostele takka: "Palju me teame anekdoote näiteks lätlaste kohta? See,
et neil olla kuus varvast, pole ju anekdoot, sest sel lool puudub puänt
või areng."
No väike puänt on sellele kuue varba loole
ikka välja mõeldud – et informatsioon vastab tõele, lätlastel on tõesti
kuus varvast: kolm ees ja kaks taga.
"Aga soomlaste kohta meil on anekdoote, sest
nad on meist rikkamad, ja meil on anekdoote venelaste kohta, sest neid
me ikka natukene kardame," ei lase Uudelepp end lihtsakoelisel
naljakesel segada.
"Samamoodi võib ju Soomes mõnes kohas kuulda
mingisugust lookest, kuidas kõik eestlased on kas prostituudid või
narkokaupmehed, aga üldiselt räägivad soomlased anekdoote pigem
rootslaste kohta, sest soomlased vaatavad neile alt üles. Rootslased
samas ei vaeva ennast soomlaste aadressil nalja tegemisega."
Uudelepale teadaolevalt olla kõige pikem
anekdoot, millega rootslased viitsivad soomlasi õnnistada, järgmine:
soomlane mängib hokit.
"Rahvusanekdoodid töötavad stampidega:
inglased on härrasmehed, prantslased liiderdajad, juudid kavalad. Keegi
peab olema kitsi, näiteks šotlane, keegi peab olema rumal – kas tšuktš
või gabrovlane," lahkab Uudelepp etnilise identiteedi kinnistamise
valemit.
Eesti pole üksnes tugev ja ilus
Muide, Eestis elavad venelased räägivad rõõmuga lugu sellest, kuidas eesti mees võtab vene naise.
Pulmapäeva hommikul õpetab isa peigmeest: "Kui
läheb pulmaööks, vii pruut kõigepealt süles voodisse – siis ta näeb, et
Eesti on tugev. Seejärel rebi endal särk seljast ja näita – Eesti on
ilus. Kui nii kaugele oled jõudnud, õpetan ukse tagant edasi."
Noh, ühel hetkel tõuseb siis peigmees
peolauast, haarab pruudi sülle ja jookseb magamistuppa. Pruut näeb, et
Eesti on tugev. Siis heidab peigmees endal särgi seljast nii et nööbid
lendavad ja pruut peab kaasa kaunist keha vaadates tõdema: jaa, Eesti on
ilus!
"Ja nüüd," hõikab isa ukse tagant, "löö endal pihku – näita, et Eesti on iseseisev!"
Poliitilises anekdoodis vaheta vaid nimi
Poliitika ja poliitikud on anekdootide lemmikteemad emma-kumma leiutamisest alates.
"Poliitilise anekdoodiga on nagu enamiku
folkloristikaga – suur osa teemasid on universaalsed ja üle maailma
kasutusel," arutleb kirjamees ja ilmarändur Tiit Pruuli.
"Samas ei ole poliitiline anekdoot mingi
abstraktne kunstmuinasjutt, vaid väga konkreetsest ajast ja ühiskonnast
tulenevalt räägitud pilalugu. Universaalsele süžeele liidetakse kohalik
koloriit. Saksa okupatsiooni ajal räägiti Eestis venevastaseid
anekdoote, aga naeruvääristati ka Litzmanni, Mäed ja teisi juhte. Sama
oli lugu näiteks Prantsusmaal, kus jutustati juudivastaseid anekdoote ja
naeruvääristati Philippe Pétaini valitsust."
Lühidalt: saamatutest korrakaitsjatest või
abitust poliitikust vestva anekdoodi süžee võib olla sajanditetagune,
aga ühiskonna kollektiivne aju kaevab selle üles ja kohendab
nüüdisaega, kui nüüdisaeg selleks põhjuse annab. Sageli piisab
kangelase nime muutmisest ja lugu on jälle moodne. Pole midagi uut siin
päikese all.
"Samas on täiesti eripalgelised lood
sellistest meestest nagu Meri ja Churchill," arutleb Pruuli edasi, et
erakordsetest inimestest räägitakse ka erakordseid jutte.
"Muide, nende kahe kohta usutakse, et enamik
neist rääkivaid anekdoote ongi tõsi. Mõlema mehe kohta on palju teravate
ja vaimukate ütlemistega lugusid, mis on pigem individuaalsed kui
universaalsed. Churchillile omistatakse meeletu hulk poliitilisi
tsitaate, mida ta vaevalt kõiki ise on jõudnud öelda."
Pruuli, kes käib töö asjus sageli Venemaal,
kinnitab, et terve armee nõukogudeaegsetest anekdootidest on pisut
disainitud mundris uuesti rivis. Ainult et – need räägivad küll
toidupuudusest, küll sõnavabadusest, kuid ei naeruväärista juhti.
"Putin naudib rahva armastust ja pole üldiselt
uute irooniliste anekdootide teema. Ta on anekdootides olemas, aga need
on USA vastased lood, kus Putin on hea kangelane," valgustab Pruuli.
Üks on kindel, anekdoodi sisse saamiseks peab
vaeva nägema, kas hea või kurjaga, osta endale sinna kohta ei saa, nagu
on keeruline ka anekdoodist välja pääseda.
Just isevoolavus teeb anekdoodist tuumapommi
võimsusega relva, mida on ükspuha millisel propagandal üsna keeruline
enda kasuks tööle panna. Esiteks on raske naeruvääristada anekdoodis
kedagi, kes pole seda väärt, nagu on ka võimatu heita head nalja kurja
või küündimatu üle. Ja viimaks ei saa kedagi sundida nalja, millega ta
nõus pole, edasi rääkima.
kanduv tsensuurivaba kommunikatsioonivahend," arutleb suhtekorraldaja
Ivo Rull.
"Anekdootide levikut ei õnnestunud
võimukandjatel üheski totalitaarses ühiskonnas või diktatuuris
kontrollida ning seetõttu olid need hästi populaarsed."
Tõsi, Nõukogudemaal sai anekdootide levikut
pisut ikkagi kontrollida. Stalini kohta ju väideti, et ta kogub
anekdoote enda kohta: kaks laagrit on juba täis ja kolmandat ehitatakse.
Kõiki anekdoodirääkijaid ei suutnud kinni panna isegi stalinistlik
Venemaa.
"Mittekontrollitavus, nakkuvus ja naer kui
nõustumine," nimetab Ivo Rull kolm kahurit, mis muudavad anekdoodi
võitmatuks kindluseks.
Just
nimelt – kui kuulaja hakkab loo puändi peale naerma, on ta kuulduga
vähemalt osaliselt nõus. Mida laiem lagin, seda suurem tõenäosus, et
anekdoot levib nagu tuulerõuged lasteaias.
Eestlane, venelane ja sakslane istuvad vangis
Miks inimesed anekdoote räägivad?
"Klassikalised anekdoodid on ju kõik identiteedi loomise vahendid," märgib keeleteadlane Tiit Hennoste.
"Kõik need niinimetatud kolme rahvuse lood on
ju sellised, kus pannakse paigale iseenese tarkus ja teiste lollus.
Võrdluseks valitakse naabrid või need, keda on vaja lolliks teha."
Kõik on lapsena rääkinud lugusid, kuidas
eestlane, venelane ja sakslane istuvad vangis või lennukis ja lõpuks on
eestlane see, kes jamast kõige uljamalt välja ujub.
"Ka suur osa Juku-tüüpi anekdootidest loovad
laias mõttes pildi alluvast, kes on üle kellestki, kes asub temast
kõrgemal," jätkab Hennoste.
"Naljade funktsioon on ju alati olnud see, et
ma olen nalja kaudu kõrgem kellestki, kes on minust kas sotsiaalselt või
varanduslikult üle."
Kommunikatsiooniõppejõud Agu Uudelepp kiidab
Hennostele takka: "Palju me teame anekdoote näiteks lätlaste kohta? See,
et neil olla kuus varvast, pole ju anekdoot, sest sel lool puudub puänt
või areng."
No väike puänt on sellele kuue varba loole
ikka välja mõeldud – et informatsioon vastab tõele, lätlastel on tõesti
kuus varvast: kolm ees ja kaks taga.
"Aga soomlaste kohta meil on anekdoote, sest
nad on meist rikkamad, ja meil on anekdoote venelaste kohta, sest neid
me ikka natukene kardame," ei lase Uudelepp end lihtsakoelisel
naljakesel segada.
"Samamoodi võib ju Soomes mõnes kohas kuulda
mingisugust lookest, kuidas kõik eestlased on kas prostituudid või
narkokaupmehed, aga üldiselt räägivad soomlased anekdoote pigem
rootslaste kohta, sest soomlased vaatavad neile alt üles. Rootslased
samas ei vaeva ennast soomlaste aadressil nalja tegemisega."
Uudelepale teadaolevalt olla kõige pikem
anekdoot, millega rootslased viitsivad soomlasi õnnistada, järgmine:
soomlane mängib hokit.
"Rahvusanekdoodid töötavad stampidega:
inglased on härrasmehed, prantslased liiderdajad, juudid kavalad. Keegi
peab olema kitsi, näiteks šotlane, keegi peab olema rumal – kas tšuktš
või gabrovlane," lahkab Uudelepp etnilise identiteedi kinnistamise
valemit.
Eesti pole üksnes tugev ja ilus
Muide, Eestis elavad venelased räägivad rõõmuga lugu sellest, kuidas eesti mees võtab vene naise.
Pulmapäeva hommikul õpetab isa peigmeest: "Kui
läheb pulmaööks, vii pruut kõigepealt süles voodisse – siis ta näeb, et
Eesti on tugev. Seejärel rebi endal särk seljast ja näita – Eesti on
ilus. Kui nii kaugele oled jõudnud, õpetan ukse tagant edasi."
Noh, ühel hetkel tõuseb siis peigmees
peolauast, haarab pruudi sülle ja jookseb magamistuppa. Pruut näeb, et
Eesti on tugev. Siis heidab peigmees endal särgi seljast nii et nööbid
lendavad ja pruut peab kaasa kaunist keha vaadates tõdema: jaa, Eesti on
ilus!
"Ja nüüd," hõikab isa ukse tagant, "löö endal pihku – näita, et Eesti on iseseisev!"
Poliitilises anekdoodis vaheta vaid nimi
Poliitika ja poliitikud on anekdootide lemmikteemad emma-kumma leiutamisest alates.
"Poliitilise anekdoodiga on nagu enamiku
folkloristikaga – suur osa teemasid on universaalsed ja üle maailma
kasutusel," arutleb kirjamees ja ilmarändur Tiit Pruuli.
"Samas ei ole poliitiline anekdoot mingi
abstraktne kunstmuinasjutt, vaid väga konkreetsest ajast ja ühiskonnast
tulenevalt räägitud pilalugu. Universaalsele süžeele liidetakse kohalik
koloriit. Saksa okupatsiooni ajal räägiti Eestis venevastaseid
anekdoote, aga naeruvääristati ka Litzmanni, Mäed ja teisi juhte. Sama
oli lugu näiteks Prantsusmaal, kus jutustati juudivastaseid anekdoote ja
naeruvääristati Philippe Pétaini valitsust."
Lühidalt: saamatutest korrakaitsjatest või
abitust poliitikust vestva anekdoodi süžee võib olla sajanditetagune,
aga ühiskonna kollektiivne aju kaevab selle üles ja kohendab
nüüdisaega, kui nüüdisaeg selleks põhjuse annab. Sageli piisab
kangelase nime muutmisest ja lugu on jälle moodne. Pole midagi uut siin
päikese all.
"Samas on täiesti eripalgelised lood
sellistest meestest nagu Meri ja Churchill," arutleb Pruuli edasi, et
erakordsetest inimestest räägitakse ka erakordseid jutte.
"Muide, nende kahe kohta usutakse, et enamik
neist rääkivaid anekdoote ongi tõsi. Mõlema mehe kohta on palju teravate
ja vaimukate ütlemistega lugusid, mis on pigem individuaalsed kui
universaalsed. Churchillile omistatakse meeletu hulk poliitilisi
tsitaate, mida ta vaevalt kõiki ise on jõudnud öelda."
Pruuli, kes käib töö asjus sageli Venemaal,
kinnitab, et terve armee nõukogudeaegsetest anekdootidest on pisut
disainitud mundris uuesti rivis. Ainult et – need räägivad küll
toidupuudusest, küll sõnavabadusest, kuid ei naeruväärista juhti.
"Putin naudib rahva armastust ja pole üldiselt
uute irooniliste anekdootide teema. Ta on anekdootides olemas, aga need
on USA vastased lood, kus Putin on hea kangelane," valgustab Pruuli.
Üks on kindel, anekdoodi sisse saamiseks peab
vaeva nägema, kas hea või kurjaga, osta endale sinna kohta ei saa, nagu
on keeruline ka anekdoodist välja pääseda.
Just isevoolavus teeb anekdoodist tuumapommi
võimsusega relva, mida on ükspuha millisel propagandal üsna keeruline
enda kasuks tööle panna. Esiteks on raske naeruvääristada anekdoodis
kedagi, kes pole seda väärt, nagu on ka võimatu heita head nalja kurja
või küündimatu üle. Ja viimaks ei saa kedagi sundida nalja, millega ta
nõus pole, edasi rääkima.
13 January 2015 19:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Just in Estonia:
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13 January 2015 19:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Uudelepp: eliit ei tähtsusta probleeme, milles oleme maha jäänud
16. mai 2013;
Psotimees
Poliitikauuringute keskuse Praxis juht Annika Uudelepp imestas, et
Eesti eliit ei pea järgmise kümne aasta olulisemateks teemadeks sugugi
mitte neid teemasid, milles oleme praegu Euroopa Liidu keskmisest
kehvemal tasemel.
Uudelepp kiitis värske Eesti inimarengu aruande esitlusel, et seekord
võrreldi aruandes Eestis riikidega, kellega me väga ei ole harjunud end
kõrvutama – need on kiire siirde läbi teinud riigid. «Võib-olla üks
võimalus, millega veel võrrelda, on väikeriigid. Need on teise
kontekstiga riigid, neil on oma piirangud,» arvas ta.
Näiteks tõi Uudelepp esile väikeriikidele olulise asja, mille tõi
välja ka aruande koostamise ajal tehtud eliidiuuring – meil on
prioritiseerimise vajadus. «Me ei saa kõike hästi teha, meil on piiratud
tegevusulatus, mistõttu me ei jõua kõike teha, peame tegema valikuid.
Ma lugesin rõõmuga eliidiruuringust, et tipus saadakse ka sellest aru.»
Uudelepale jäi aruandes silma ka eestlaste optimismilembus, mis
loodetavasti on edasiviiv jõud. Ometigi päris ta, kas see ei hakka ühel
hetkel muutuma uduks, mis hägustab meie vaadet: «Me oleme harjunud
nägema oma arengut natuke ilusamana ja vähemate varjunditega, kui see
tegelikult on.»
Näiteks kõrvutas ta eliidiuuringus osalenute arvamusi, mis on
järgmise 10 aasta jooksul tähtsad asjad, millega peaks tegelema,
pingeridadest välja tulnud näitajatega, milles oleme kõvasti alla
Euroopa Liidu keskmise. «Nägin, et need inimesed ei arva sugugi
üksmeelselt, et me peaks tegelema nende asjadega, milles oleme alla
keskmise. Räägiti majanduse konkurentsivõimest ja innovaatilise
mõtteviisist, milles oleme keskmised, ning haridusest, milles oleme üle
keskmise, rääkis Uudelepp.
Märksõnad, milles oleme aga tegelikult teistest enam maha jäänud, on
aga majanduslik ebavõrdsus, inimeste tervislik seisund, inimeste eluga
rahulolu, eliit neid aga ei tähtsustanud. Kahjuks ei olnud uuringusse
võetud sallivuse ning soolise tasakaalu küsimust, seetõttu ei ilmnenud
küsitlusest, kas eliit näeb seda probleemina või mitte.
«Kas meie optimism pole põhjustatud mantratest, mida oleme 20 aastat
rääkinud? Aruanne annab alust, et sellest ühiskondlikust
grupimõtlemisest üle saada,» lausus Uudelepp.
Uudelepp lisas, et neid asju, mis ei lähe iseenesest üle, nimetatakse riigiteadustes lahendamatuteks probleemideks (wicked issues).
«Need ei ole tavalised ühiskonna probleemid, neid iseloomustub
keerukus, ebamäärasus, vastuolulisus. Neid iseloomustab, et sa kogu aeg
tegeled nendega. Võib-olla läheb olukord pisut paremaks, aga need ei
lähe üle – näiteks narkomaania, HIV, sooline ebavõrdsus, integratsioon,
perevägivald,» rääkis Uudelepp. Need probleemid ületavad ühe
organisatsiooni vastutust ja poliitikavaldkondi, siin pole lahendused
õiged ja valed, vaid head ja halvad.
«Võtmeküsimus on, kuidas nende lahendamatute probleemidega targalt
tegutseda, sest vaikne tegutsemine ilma pikas perspektiivis prioriteete
seadmata ei õigusta ennast kuidagi,» rõhutas Uudelepp.
http://www.kogu.ee/uudelepp-eliit-ei-tahtsusta-probleeme-milles-oleme-maha-jaanud/
16. mai 2013;
Psotimees
Poliitikauuringute keskuse Praxis juht Annika Uudelepp imestas, et
Eesti eliit ei pea järgmise kümne aasta olulisemateks teemadeks sugugi
mitte neid teemasid, milles oleme praegu Euroopa Liidu keskmisest
kehvemal tasemel.
Uudelepp kiitis värske Eesti inimarengu aruande esitlusel, et seekord
võrreldi aruandes Eestis riikidega, kellega me väga ei ole harjunud end
kõrvutama – need on kiire siirde läbi teinud riigid. «Võib-olla üks
võimalus, millega veel võrrelda, on väikeriigid. Need on teise
kontekstiga riigid, neil on oma piirangud,» arvas ta.
Näiteks tõi Uudelepp esile väikeriikidele olulise asja, mille tõi
välja ka aruande koostamise ajal tehtud eliidiuuring – meil on
prioritiseerimise vajadus. «Me ei saa kõike hästi teha, meil on piiratud
tegevusulatus, mistõttu me ei jõua kõike teha, peame tegema valikuid.
Ma lugesin rõõmuga eliidiruuringust, et tipus saadakse ka sellest aru.»
Uudelepale jäi aruandes silma ka eestlaste optimismilembus, mis
loodetavasti on edasiviiv jõud. Ometigi päris ta, kas see ei hakka ühel
hetkel muutuma uduks, mis hägustab meie vaadet: «Me oleme harjunud
nägema oma arengut natuke ilusamana ja vähemate varjunditega, kui see
tegelikult on.»
Näiteks kõrvutas ta eliidiuuringus osalenute arvamusi, mis on
järgmise 10 aasta jooksul tähtsad asjad, millega peaks tegelema,
pingeridadest välja tulnud näitajatega, milles oleme kõvasti alla
Euroopa Liidu keskmise. «Nägin, et need inimesed ei arva sugugi
üksmeelselt, et me peaks tegelema nende asjadega, milles oleme alla
keskmise. Räägiti majanduse konkurentsivõimest ja innovaatilise
mõtteviisist, milles oleme keskmised, ning haridusest, milles oleme üle
keskmise, rääkis Uudelepp.
Märksõnad, milles oleme aga tegelikult teistest enam maha jäänud, on
aga majanduslik ebavõrdsus, inimeste tervislik seisund, inimeste eluga
rahulolu, eliit neid aga ei tähtsustanud. Kahjuks ei olnud uuringusse
võetud sallivuse ning soolise tasakaalu küsimust, seetõttu ei ilmnenud
küsitlusest, kas eliit näeb seda probleemina või mitte.
«Kas meie optimism pole põhjustatud mantratest, mida oleme 20 aastat
rääkinud? Aruanne annab alust, et sellest ühiskondlikust
grupimõtlemisest üle saada,» lausus Uudelepp.
Uudelepp lisas, et neid asju, mis ei lähe iseenesest üle, nimetatakse riigiteadustes lahendamatuteks probleemideks (wicked issues).
«Need ei ole tavalised ühiskonna probleemid, neid iseloomustub
keerukus, ebamäärasus, vastuolulisus. Neid iseloomustab, et sa kogu aeg
tegeled nendega. Võib-olla läheb olukord pisut paremaks, aga need ei
lähe üle – näiteks narkomaania, HIV, sooline ebavõrdsus, integratsioon,
perevägivald,» rääkis Uudelepp. Need probleemid ületavad ühe
organisatsiooni vastutust ja poliitikavaldkondi, siin pole lahendused
õiged ja valed, vaid head ja halvad.
«Võtmeküsimus on, kuidas nende lahendamatute probleemidega targalt
tegutseda, sest vaikne tegutsemine ilma pikas perspektiivis prioriteete
seadmata ei õigusta ennast kuidagi,» rõhutas Uudelepp.
http://www.kogu.ee/uudelepp-eliit-ei-tahtsusta-probleeme-milles-oleme-maha-jaanud/
http://www.kogu.ee/uudelepp-eliit-ei-tahtsusta-probleeme-milles-oleme-maha-jaanud/
13 January 2015 19:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Näitus "Pöörane pööripäev" on avatud 19. detsembrist kuni 25. jaanuarini iga päev kell 10-17 Tartu botaanikaaia Õppeklassis Lai 38.
"Tartu botaanikaaed tutvustab meeli mõjutavaid taimi*
Tartu Ülikooli botaanikaaias avati talvise pööripäeva puhul näitus "Pöörane pööripäev. Meeli mõjutavaid taimi meilt ja mujalt".
Näitus tutvustab taimi, mis sisaldavad inimmeeli mõjutavaid aineid.
Näitus annab külastajale teadmisi nii ergutavate, uimastavate,
rahustavate kui ka potentsi tõstvate armutaimede kohta. Osa taimi on
meile igapäevasest elust tuttavad, osa taimi aga tundmatud.
Inimene on taimi ammusest ajast kasutanud oma meelte ja tajude
mõjutamiseks. Pööripäevad on olnud maagilised hetked, mil vaadatakse
minevikku, ennustatakse tulevikku ning suheldakse teispoolsusesse läinud
hingedega. Pööripäeva maagiliste rituaalide läbiviimisel on sageli
kasutatud just taimemaailma abi. "
Lisainfo:
Kristine Fenske
Tel 5340 5793
botaed@ut.ee
www.ut.ee/botaed
Teate edastas
Eva-Liisa Orula
Tartu loodusmuuseum ja botaanikaaed
"Tartu botaanikaaed tutvustab meeli mõjutavaid taimi*
Tartu Ülikooli botaanikaaias avati talvise pööripäeva puhul näitus "Pöörane pööripäev. Meeli mõjutavaid taimi meilt ja mujalt".
Näitus tutvustab taimi, mis sisaldavad inimmeeli mõjutavaid aineid.
Näitus annab külastajale teadmisi nii ergutavate, uimastavate,
rahustavate kui ka potentsi tõstvate armutaimede kohta. Osa taimi on
meile igapäevasest elust tuttavad, osa taimi aga tundmatud.
Inimene on taimi ammusest ajast kasutanud oma meelte ja tajude
mõjutamiseks. Pööripäevad on olnud maagilised hetked, mil vaadatakse
minevikku, ennustatakse tulevikku ning suheldakse teispoolsusesse läinud
hingedega. Pööripäeva maagiliste rituaalide läbiviimisel on sageli
kasutatud just taimemaailma abi. "
Lisainfo:
Kristine Fenske
Tel 5340 5793
botaed@ut.ee
www.ut.ee/botaed
Teate edastas
Eva-Liisa Orula
Tartu loodusmuuseum ja botaanikaaed
http://www.ut.ee/botaed
13 January 2015 02:42
Margus Meigo commented on Kalmer Piiskop's post.
Group: OPPT Eesti
Muidugi hullumajas toitu mitte süüa siis veenad rohkem selles mille pärast nad sinna kellegi lukustasid (ja ilmselgelt toidu sisse ravimite panemine on parim moodus)
Kui muidugi oleks suts veel targem olnud, oleks lihtsalt teiste vangidega oma portsioni ära vahetanud, et siis heal juhul oleks seda saanud mida kõigile antakse..12 January 2015 23:44
Margus Meigo commented on Janar Einula's post.
kohe näha mis teede olukord on kui savipäts vastutav pole
12 January 2015 21:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Are You, sorry, really?
12 January 2015 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Matriarchy
I know how it looks, but that it has inside is more important then anything12 January 2015 04:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
also: https://sites.google.com/site/waffad/home/HebrewVSgreecevs.odt?attredirects=0&d=1 - will correct it some day
12 January 2015 04:49
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
Ja siis ta ise ka http://tonyortega.org/2013/07/17/shelly-speaks-scientology-leaders-banished-wife-says-shell-get-out-only-one-way/
http://tonyortega.org/2013/07/17/shelly-speaks-scientology-leaders-banished-wife-says-shell-get-out-only-one-way/
11 January 2015 23:00
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
Samal ajal, keegi aga uudistes suurelt millegist sellisest ei räägi:
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/01/the_strange_dea.php
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/01/the_strange_dea.php
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/01/the_strange_dea.php
11 January 2015 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's post.
Siin pole midagi luua, süsteem on AMMU paigas, mitu tuhat aastat peale homo alexandria vallutusi, lihtsalt aegajalt kipub koost lagunema, ja siis vaja timmida ja ajast ette paika seada siin hinge turul
11 January 2015 22:57
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's link.
BUt one is sure, üks on kindel, tegu kindlasti ei saa olla Moslemitega, päris moslemitega, sest nende jaoks on see nii arulage tegevus, kui su seljataga on kogu Loovuse Loodud Looja,,, nu siis pole nagu huvi automaatidega ringi sõita.
Kuid eks see nende huvides on, seda lugu jagada kas siis CIA või Islami vastu, kes nadivad muud kui rahu,
TÄIESTI kasutu on temasugusel tööriistal öelda, et see on see või teine, ilma selgitamatta, miks ja mida see toob ja kuidas.
Nimesi külge kleepida oskab enamus, kuid seletada, nii, et erineval astmel inimesed mõistaksid mis toimub ja miks, see on see mida tegelikult vaja oleks ja mida nad millegi pärast ei tee.
(süüdistades ühe kanali kaudu ühte extreemust ja teise kaudu teist see lahutab eri generatsioone, toob viha moslemite seas kes teavad, et see ei saa nemad olla siis osad noored suunduvad otse USA vastu ja samas need kes veendunud Islami asjas, kui nemad selle teise mõtte maailmaga kokku saavad (asuvad samas peres isegi, inteneti vs teleka informeeritud, usulised vs mitte usulised) siis enam kui kindel, et lahkhelid vale informatsiooni poole peal on piisavad, et inimesi hoida teineteise vastas ja viia ligemale sõjatööstuse ja usu vastaliste sõjale, ja veel mite muu seaduse muudatuse kiirendamisele, ning lisaks samal ajal saab suure segaduse aeg muid asju teha millest meedia ei räägiks sest emotsioonid on muud täis topitud, )
Väga Väga vana taktika Rooma meelsete poole pealt
Kuid eks see nende huvides on, seda lugu jagada kas siis CIA või Islami vastu, kes nadivad muud kui rahu,
TÄIESTI kasutu on temasugusel tööriistal öelda, et see on see või teine, ilma selgitamatta, miks ja mida see toob ja kuidas.
Nimesi külge kleepida oskab enamus, kuid seletada, nii, et erineval astmel inimesed mõistaksid mis toimub ja miks, see on see mida tegelikult vaja oleks ja mida nad millegi pärast ei tee.
(süüdistades ühe kanali kaudu ühte extreemust ja teise kaudu teist see lahutab eri generatsioone, toob viha moslemite seas kes teavad, et see ei saa nemad olla siis osad noored suunduvad otse USA vastu ja samas need kes veendunud Islami asjas, kui nemad selle teise mõtte maailmaga kokku saavad (asuvad samas peres isegi, inteneti vs teleka informeeritud, usulised vs mitte usulised) siis enam kui kindel, et lahkhelid vale informatsiooni poole peal on piisavad, et inimesi hoida teineteise vastas ja viia ligemale sõjatööstuse ja usu vastaliste sõjale, ja veel mite muu seaduse muudatuse kiirendamisele, ning lisaks samal ajal saab suure segaduse aeg muid asju teha millest meedia ei räägiks sest emotsioonid on muud täis topitud, )
Väga Väga vana taktika Rooma meelsete poole pealt
11 January 2015 22:55
Margus Meigo commented on Nancy Himma's link.
Yeah, coming from comie it is really trust whordthy.
BUt then again, they carry same five star, so maybe they know what their friends are up to
BUt then again, they carry same five star, so maybe they know what their friends are up to
11 January 2015 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Not just his Timaeus and Symposium, but also Plato’s Phaedo, Meno, and Phaedrus are clearly theological works, and very important ones, too. Those dialogues discuss such ideas as the immortality of the soul, anamnesis (“recollection”), and the ascent of the soul – all of this four centuries before Jesus began preaching."
(lucky them )
"In his The Religion of Socrates, Mark McPherran argues that the teleological cosmology that Xenophon ascribes to Socrates in his Memorabilia, is an accurate depiction of Socrates’ own views (see, in particular,
section 2 of chapter 5 of that book). Whether that is true or not, there
is no question that Plato’s cosmology, especially that of the Timaeus, is thoroughly teleological, a fact that T.K. Johansen, in his Plato’s Natural Philosophy,
sums up very succinctly when he says that, for Plato “the study of
cosmology is ultimately motivated by the concern with how to lead one’s
life.”
(yea assuming, that we are not grown and that there is not universal instructions we can get from plant world, what a silly approach of not telling out proper locations of the truths, none of them)
"That is, we live in an orderly universe, an idea implicit in the Greek word kosmos, therefore by studying this divinely ordered world around us we can
learn how to properly order our own lives. In fact, as Johansen points
out, even the world inside of us is ordered in this way: “The view that the kosmos is organized for the best is [in the Timaeus] … taken right down to the level of human psychology and physiology.”
"
Empedocles, Heraclitus, Pythagoras, Socrates and Plato are just the tip of the iceberg of ancient Pagan theology. In Plato’s own school,
Crantor, a student of Xenocrates (who had himself studied directly under
Plato), produced a highly influential commentary on the Timaeus, and almost nine centuries later Proclus would compose the last great masterpiece of ancient Pagan philosophy: his own commentary on the Timaeus. Meanwhile in the school of the Stoics (who traced their roots back to Socrates), Plato’s Timaeus
became the foundation for a far reaching Pagan theology and cosmology
based on the concept of a living, orderly, conscious and rational
Universe. And in addition there is Plato’s most famous student,
Aristotle, who coined the term metaphysics. Epicureans also made their
contribution to Pagan theology, and in fact it is Epicurus himself who
wrote that “There are Gods, knowledge of them is self-evident.“
(True, adn there is one that is abowe them Us all)
(lucky them )
"In his The Religion of Socrates, Mark McPherran argues that the teleological cosmology that Xenophon ascribes to Socrates in his Memorabilia, is an accurate depiction of Socrates’ own views (see, in particular,
section 2 of chapter 5 of that book). Whether that is true or not, there
is no question that Plato’s cosmology, especially that of the Timaeus, is thoroughly teleological, a fact that T.K. Johansen, in his Plato’s Natural Philosophy,
sums up very succinctly when he says that, for Plato “the study of
cosmology is ultimately motivated by the concern with how to lead one’s
life.”
(yea assuming, that we are not grown and that there is not universal instructions we can get from plant world, what a silly approach of not telling out proper locations of the truths, none of them)
"That is, we live in an orderly universe, an idea implicit in the Greek word kosmos, therefore by studying this divinely ordered world around us we can
learn how to properly order our own lives. In fact, as Johansen points
out, even the world inside of us is ordered in this way: “The view that the kosmos is organized for the best is [in the Timaeus] … taken right down to the level of human psychology and physiology.”
"
Empedocles, Heraclitus, Pythagoras, Socrates and Plato are just the tip of the iceberg of ancient Pagan theology. In Plato’s own school,
Crantor, a student of Xenocrates (who had himself studied directly under
Plato), produced a highly influential commentary on the Timaeus, and almost nine centuries later Proclus would compose the last great masterpiece of ancient Pagan philosophy: his own commentary on the Timaeus. Meanwhile in the school of the Stoics (who traced their roots back to Socrates), Plato’s Timaeus
became the foundation for a far reaching Pagan theology and cosmology
based on the concept of a living, orderly, conscious and rational
Universe. And in addition there is Plato’s most famous student,
Aristotle, who coined the term metaphysics. Epicureans also made their
contribution to Pagan theology, and in fact it is Epicurus himself who
wrote that “There are Gods, knowledge of them is self-evident.“
(True, adn there is one that is abowe them Us all)
11 January 2015 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's post.
Yea but ride with a purpose to become better in all directions we can see to be able
11 January 2015 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Tehtud!
11 January 2015 20:28
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Tell that to water, media,medical and food corporations
11 January 2015 20:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kümme meest istub ümber laua ja nendest kaks pool mõtleb midagi muud, kah mul ühtne arusaam, strateegiline
10 January 2015 23:35
Margus Meigo commented on Khairi Didi Omar's link.
What part of CIA?
Looking hes profile it is more likelly it was some red forces, making this to spin propaganda up against US.
And himself this guy seems more of the red then a blue christian... so what he tells is..
Looking hes profile it is more likelly it was some red forces, making this to spin propaganda up against US.
And himself this guy seems more of the red then a blue christian... so what he tells is..
10 January 2015 15:23
Margus Meigo commented on Freewheeling Gary Falkenberg's photo.
That is only way Te Be : )
10 January 2015 11:41
Margus Meigo commented on Freewheeling Gary Falkenberg's photo.
Old estonians, they as am heard, asked advice and promission from trees what kind of house to build : )
10 January 2015 04:21
Margus Meigo commented on Freewheeling Gary Falkenberg's link.
Why does she wear a five star..
10 January 2015 04:18
Margus Meigo commented on Freewheeling Gary Falkenberg's photo.
Is there a winter there?
10 January 2015 04:17
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Quesada's post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
Or a compliment as it is superior10 January 2015 03:30
Margus Meigo commented on Sarah Quesada's post.
Group: Radical Matriarchy
This nailed a day10 January 2015 03:27
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
let take these away from there who do not need to be here...
10 January 2015 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on Holding Womanspace's photo.
You are, home, You are in home, Do not let them to take You away : )
10 January 2015 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on Maria Tamboukou's post.
Group: Feminist Research Group
THey got a lot of good down to earth talks: https://plus.google.com/u/0/116212551167955184069/videoshttps://plus.google.com/u/0/116212551167955184069/videos
10 January 2015 02:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Today the women at the festival Are going to kill me for insulting them!
This bold statement by Euripides
is the absurd premise upon which the whole play depends.
The women are
incensed by his plays' portrayal of the female sex as mad, murderous,
and sexually depraved, and they are using the festival of the Thesmophoria (an annual fertility celebration dedicated to Demeter) as an opportunity to debate a suitable choice of revenge.
Fearful of their powers, Euripides seeks out a fellow tragedian, Agathon,
in the hope of persuading him to spy for him and to be his advocate at
the festival – a role that would require him of course to go disguised
as a woman.
Euripides shaves him, dresses him in women's clothes borrowed from Agathon and finally sends him off to the Thesmophorion, the venue of the
women's secret rites.
There, the women are discovered behaving like citizens of a
democracy, conducting an assembly much as men do, with appointed
officials and carefully maintained records and procedures.
Top of the agenda for that day is Euripides. Two women – Micca and a myrtle vendor – summarize their grievances against him.
According to
Micca, Euripides has taught men not to trust women, this has made them
more vigilant and that in turn makes it impossible for women to help
themselves to the household stores. According to the myrtle vendor, his
plays promote atheism and this makes it difficult for her to sell her
myrtle wreaths.
And here, the reason why vionet one cannot be:
The assembly is outraged but order is restored when a female messenger is seen approaching. It turns out to be Cleisthenes, a notoriously effeminate homosexual, represented in this play as the
Athenian 'ambassador' for women. He has come with the alarming news that
a man disguised as a woman is spying upon them on behalf of Euripides!
Suspicion immediately falls upon Mnesilochus, being the only member of
the group that nobody can identify. After they remove his clothes, they
discover that he is indeed a man. In a parody of a famous scene from
Euripides' 'Telephus',
Mnesilochus grabs Micca's baby and threatens to kill it unless the
women release him. After closer inspection, however, Mnesilochus
discovers that the 'baby' is in fact a wine skin fitted with booties.
Undeterred, he still threatens it with a knife. Micca (a devout tippler)
pleads for its release but the assembly will not negotiate with
Mnesilochus and he stabs the baby anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thesmophoriazusae
This bold statement by Euripides
is the absurd premise upon which the whole play depends.
The women are
incensed by his plays' portrayal of the female sex as mad, murderous,
and sexually depraved, and they are using the festival of the Thesmophoria (an annual fertility celebration dedicated to Demeter) as an opportunity to debate a suitable choice of revenge.
Fearful of their powers, Euripides seeks out a fellow tragedian, Agathon,
in the hope of persuading him to spy for him and to be his advocate at
the festival – a role that would require him of course to go disguised
as a woman.
Euripides shaves him, dresses him in women's clothes borrowed from Agathon and finally sends him off to the Thesmophorion, the venue of the
women's secret rites.
There, the women are discovered behaving like citizens of a
democracy, conducting an assembly much as men do, with appointed
officials and carefully maintained records and procedures.
Top of the agenda for that day is Euripides. Two women – Micca and a myrtle vendor – summarize their grievances against him.
According to
Micca, Euripides has taught men not to trust women, this has made them
more vigilant and that in turn makes it impossible for women to help
themselves to the household stores. According to the myrtle vendor, his
plays promote atheism and this makes it difficult for her to sell her
myrtle wreaths.
And here, the reason why vionet one cannot be:
The assembly is outraged but order is restored when a female messenger is seen approaching. It turns out to be Cleisthenes, a notoriously effeminate homosexual, represented in this play as the
Athenian 'ambassador' for women. He has come with the alarming news that
a man disguised as a woman is spying upon them on behalf of Euripides!
Suspicion immediately falls upon Mnesilochus, being the only member of
the group that nobody can identify. After they remove his clothes, they
discover that he is indeed a man. In a parody of a famous scene from
Euripides' 'Telephus',
Mnesilochus grabs Micca's baby and threatens to kill it unless the
women release him. After closer inspection, however, Mnesilochus
discovers that the 'baby' is in fact a wine skin fitted with booties.
Undeterred, he still threatens it with a knife. Micca (a devout tippler)
pleads for its release but the assembly will not negotiate with
Mnesilochus and he stabs the baby anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thesmophoriazusae
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thesmophoriazusae
10 January 2015 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
More about Lysandra
Thus Lysistrata accepted the men's conduct of the war out of female respect for male authority[] until it became obvious that there were no real men in Athens who could
bring an end to the destruction and waste of young lives.[
She must protect women from their own worst instincts before she can
accomplish her primary mission to end the war – she has to persuade them
to forgo sexual activity, even binding them with an oath, and later she
must rally them with an oracle when they show signs of wavering. She is
an exceptional woman and by the end of the play she has demonstrated
power over men also – even the leaders of Greece are submissive once
caught in her magic (ἴυγγι, íyngi). Her role as an improbable savior of Athens is anticipated in The Knights, where the protagonist is an obscure sausage vendor, Agoracritus. Some points of resemblance:
.... Lysistrata uses an oracle to manipulate women, Agoracritus uses oracles to manipulate Demos (the people);
... Lysistrata presents the Athenian and Spartan envoys with the beautiful Reconciliation (Diallage), Agoracritus presents Demos with the beautiful Treaties (Spondai);
.... Lysistrata appears to have extraordinary powers (possibly magical
powers), Agoracritus emerges as an agent of divine intervention, not
only inspired by the gods[48] but also able to be thought of as a god himself.
Thus Lysistrata accepted the men's conduct of the war out of female respect for male authority[] until it became obvious that there were no real men in Athens who could
bring an end to the destruction and waste of young lives.[
She must protect women from their own worst instincts before she can
accomplish her primary mission to end the war – she has to persuade them
to forgo sexual activity, even binding them with an oath, and later she
must rally them with an oracle when they show signs of wavering. She is
an exceptional woman and by the end of the play she has demonstrated
power over men also – even the leaders of Greece are submissive once
caught in her magic (ἴυγγι, íyngi). Her role as an improbable savior of Athens is anticipated in The Knights, where the protagonist is an obscure sausage vendor, Agoracritus. Some points of resemblance:
.... Lysistrata uses an oracle to manipulate women, Agoracritus uses oracles to manipulate Demos (the people);
... Lysistrata presents the Athenian and Spartan envoys with the beautiful Reconciliation (Diallage), Agoracritus presents Demos with the beautiful Treaties (Spondai);
.... Lysistrata appears to have extraordinary powers (possibly magical
powers), Agoracritus emerges as an agent of divine intervention, not
only inspired by the gods[48] but also able to be thought of as a god himself.
10 January 2015 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Originally performed in classical Athens in 411 BC, it is a comic account of one woman's extraordinary mission to end the Peloponnesian War. Lysistrata persuades the women of Greece to withhold sexual privileges from their husbands and lovers as a means of forcing the men to
negotiate peace — a strategy, however, that inflames the battle between
the sexes. The play is notable for being an early exposé of sexual
relations in a male-dominated society.
LYSISTRATA: There are a lot of things about us women
That sadden me, considering how men
See us as rascals.
CALONICE:
As indeed we are!
Soon after the oath is finished, a cry of triumph is heard from the nearby Acropolis – the old women of Athens have seized control of it at Lysistrata's
instigation, since it holds the state treasury, without which the men
cannot long continue to fund their war. Lampito goes off to spread the
word of revolt and the other women retreat behind the barred gates of
the Acropolis to await the men's response.
A Chorus of Old Men arrives, intent on burning down the gate of the
Acropolis if the women don't open up. Encumbered with heavy timbers,
inconvenienced with smoke and burdened with old age, they are still
making preparations to assault the gate when a Chorus of Old Women
arrives, bearing pitchers of water. The Old Women complain about the
difficulty they had getting the water but they are ready for a fight in
defense of their younger comrades. Threats are exchanged, water beats
fire and the Old Men are discomfited with a soaking.
Lysistrata restores order and she allows the magistrate to question her. She explains to him the frustrations women feel at a time of war when
the men make stupid decisions that affect everyone, and their wives'
opinions are not listened to. She drapes her headdress over him, gives
him a basket of wool and tells him that war will be a woman's business
from now on. She then explains the pity she feels for young, childless
women, ageing at home while the men are away on endless campaigns. When
the magistrate points out that men also age, she reminds him that men
can marry at any age whereas a woman has only a short time before she is
considered too old.
The debate or agon is continued between the Chorus of Old Men and the Chorus of Old Women until Lysistrata returns to the stage with
some news — her comrades are desperate for sex and they are beginning to
desert on the silliest pretexts (for example, one woman says she has to
go home to air her fabrics by spreading them on the bed). After
rallying her comrades and restoring their discipline, Lysistrata again
returns to the Acropolis to continue waiting for the men's surrender.
A man soon appears, desperate for sex.
A Spartan herald then appears with a large burden (an erection) scarcely hidden inside his tunic and he requests to see the ruling council to
arrange peace talks. The magistrate, now also sporting a prodigious
burden, laughs at the herald's embarrassing situation but agrees that
peace talks should begin.
negotiate peace — a strategy, however, that inflames the battle between
the sexes. The play is notable for being an early exposé of sexual
relations in a male-dominated society.
LYSISTRATA: There are a lot of things about us women
That sadden me, considering how men
See us as rascals.
CALONICE:
As indeed we are!
Soon after the oath is finished, a cry of triumph is heard from the nearby Acropolis – the old women of Athens have seized control of it at Lysistrata's
instigation, since it holds the state treasury, without which the men
cannot long continue to fund their war. Lampito goes off to spread the
word of revolt and the other women retreat behind the barred gates of
the Acropolis to await the men's response.
A Chorus of Old Men arrives, intent on burning down the gate of the
Acropolis if the women don't open up. Encumbered with heavy timbers,
inconvenienced with smoke and burdened with old age, they are still
making preparations to assault the gate when a Chorus of Old Women
arrives, bearing pitchers of water. The Old Women complain about the
difficulty they had getting the water but they are ready for a fight in
defense of their younger comrades. Threats are exchanged, water beats
fire and the Old Men are discomfited with a soaking.
Lysistrata restores order and she allows the magistrate to question her. She explains to him the frustrations women feel at a time of war when
the men make stupid decisions that affect everyone, and their wives'
opinions are not listened to. She drapes her headdress over him, gives
him a basket of wool and tells him that war will be a woman's business
from now on. She then explains the pity she feels for young, childless
women, ageing at home while the men are away on endless campaigns. When
the magistrate points out that men also age, she reminds him that men
can marry at any age whereas a woman has only a short time before she is
considered too old.
The debate or agon is continued between the Chorus of Old Men and the Chorus of Old Women until Lysistrata returns to the stage with
some news — her comrades are desperate for sex and they are beginning to
desert on the silliest pretexts (for example, one woman says she has to
go home to air her fabrics by spreading them on the bed). After
rallying her comrades and restoring their discipline, Lysistrata again
returns to the Acropolis to continue waiting for the men's surrender.
A man soon appears, desperate for sex.
A Spartan herald then appears with a large burden (an erection) scarcely hidden inside his tunic and he requests to see the ruling council to
arrange peace talks. The magistrate, now also sporting a prodigious
burden, laughs at the herald's embarrassing situation but agrees that
peace talks should begin.
10 January 2015 02:25
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's link.
must värv, st
10 January 2015 01:00
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's link.
Must Huumor
10 January 2015 01:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
hahahaa, good irony Adrià Pérez Cros
10 January 2015 00:58
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's post.
had to google that, now am know as well
9 January 2015 23:38
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
Will send Her to my porn expert :p
9 January 2015 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on Chris Cox's post.
proabably same with most of the securty services
http://www.nsa.ee/Functions-and-Contact-Information-of-the-Estonian-National-Security-Authority.html
http://www.nsa.ee/Functions-and-Contact-Information-of-the-Estonian-National-Security-Authority.html
http://www.nsa.ee/Functions-and-Contact-Information-of-the-Estonian-National-Security-Authority.html
9 January 2015 15:38
Margus Meigo commented on Chris Cox's post.
OKey but they did stop like 1000 and 7 other whorst things then that in last 5 years
9 January 2015 15:37
Margus Meigo commented on Elver Loho's photo.
asiatlik
9 January 2015 15:36
Margus Meigo commented on Elver Loho's photo.
See päris äge pilt tegelikult
9 January 2015 15:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Your own, personal, Jesus
someone to hear your prayers,
someone who cares
Your own, personal, Jesus
someone to hear your prayers,
someone who's there
Feeling unknown
and you're all alone,
flesh and bone,
by the telephone,
lift up the receiver,
i'll make you a believer
Take second best,
put me to the test,
things on your chest,
you need to confess,
i will deliver,
you know i'm a forgiver
Reach out and touch faith
Reach out and touch faith
Your own, personal, Jesus
someone to hear your prayers,
someone who cares
Your own, personal, Jesus
someone to hear your prayers,
someone to care
Feeling unknown
and you're all alone,
flesh and bone,
by the telephone,
lift up the receiver,
i'll make you a believer
i will deliver,
you know i'm a forgiver
Reach out and touch faith
Reach out and touch faith
Reach out and touch faith
Reach out and touch faith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQcNiD0Z3MU
someone to hear your prayers,
someone who cares
Your own, personal, Jesus
someone to hear your prayers,
someone who's there
Feeling unknown
and you're all alone,
flesh and bone,
by the telephone,
lift up the receiver,
i'll make you a believer
Take second best,
put me to the test,
things on your chest,
you need to confess,
i will deliver,
you know i'm a forgiver
Reach out and touch faith
Reach out and touch faith
Your own, personal, Jesus
someone to hear your prayers,
someone who cares
Your own, personal, Jesus
someone to hear your prayers,
someone to care
Feeling unknown
and you're all alone,
flesh and bone,
by the telephone,
lift up the receiver,
i'll make you a believer
i will deliver,
you know i'm a forgiver
Reach out and touch faith
Reach out and touch faith
Reach out and touch faith
Reach out and touch faith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQcNiD0Z3MU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQcNiD0Z3MU
9 January 2015 15:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Your own personal Jesus
Someone to hear your prayers
Someone who cares
Your own personal Jesus
Someone to hear your prayers
Someone who's there
Feeling unknown
And you're all alone
Flesh and bone
By the telephone
Lift up the receiver
I'll make you a believer
Take second best
Put me to the test
Things on your chest
That we need to confess
I will deliver
You know I'm a forgiver
Reach out and touch faith
Reach out and touch faith
Your own personal Jesus...
Feeling unknown
And you're all alone
Flesh and bone
By the telephone
Lift up the receiver
I'll make you a believer
I will deliver
You know I'm a forgiver
Reach out and touch faith
Your own personal Jesus
Reach out and touch faith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl6fyhZ0G5E
Someone to hear your prayers
Someone who cares
Your own personal Jesus
Someone to hear your prayers
Someone who's there
Feeling unknown
And you're all alone
Flesh and bone
By the telephone
Lift up the receiver
I'll make you a believer
Take second best
Put me to the test
Things on your chest
That we need to confess
I will deliver
You know I'm a forgiver
Reach out and touch faith
Reach out and touch faith
Your own personal Jesus...
Feeling unknown
And you're all alone
Flesh and bone
By the telephone
Lift up the receiver
I'll make you a believer
I will deliver
You know I'm a forgiver
Reach out and touch faith
Your own personal Jesus
Reach out and touch faith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl6fyhZ0G5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl6fyhZ0G5E
9 January 2015 15:07
Margus Meigo commented on Simon Everson's post.
Well, come summer time.. will get you join in to PSyDellic crew of local nature trance and all that, : )
9 January 2015 05:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Dr. Bruce Greyson reports of cases that suggest that consciousness does not need a physical brain and in fact not even a physical body.
Presented at the "Cosmology and Consciousness Conference" hosted by
Upper TCV, Dharamsala, in 2011
Comment: "The human consciousness, and consciousness in general, is a record of self-identity information which is embedded into an omnipresent
background consciousness. It has been named Atman and Brahman in ancient
vedic sciptures - Brahman being the cosmic database of all that is and
lives, and Atman being an individual data set. Nowadays these phenomena
appear again in concepts such as the noosphere and morphic or
morphogenetic fields.... When we assume the human body as a resonant
energy system that is a subset of the cosmic field of consciousness, we
can understand reincarnation as a resonance phenomenon. When a living
person recalls vivid memory data of a deceased person to that extent
that the living person starts to identify itself with the deceased, then
this appears as a reincarnation of the deceased individual.
Furthermore, resonance with the same set of data can of course occur in
more than one physical vehicle, which could explain why more than one
individual can recall the same personal life records, which may give the
impression of multiple reincarnation. The situation is very similar to
the same TV broadcast appearing on different TV sets. What is essential
here is not the manifestation in a physical vehicle. The essence is to
be seen in the recorded field information. The latter can be called a
soul, but in essence it is just data. This is all supported not only by
the so-called reincanation cases, but also by cellular memory phenomena
such as being observed in organ transplant receivers."
"Karma Rinchen Dawa +Steve Sawyer
There is a series of 4 videos on my channel, all titled "DNA is the Secret".
It is a bit outdated, but gives you a good introduction into the terms.
With resonance, I refer to electromagnetic resonance of a system of
charges, just in the scrict physics sense, and not as a metaphor. The
body is made of atoms and molecules, which are charged particles. Such
systems have frequencies to which they resonate - called their
eigenfrequencies. In resonance state, the system is absorbing energy
from the vacuum, just like a radio receiver does. And just as a radio
reciever, it also absorbs the information contained therein. As you will
realize, this is a very technical issue, and to begin with, one must
understand radio transmission principles, and apply them to the
structures of living cells."
"Consciousness without a brain? This report suggests consciousness survives even without a body."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yosn_GHYiR4
Presented at the "Cosmology and Consciousness Conference" hosted by
Upper TCV, Dharamsala, in 2011
Comment: "The human consciousness, and consciousness in general, is a record of self-identity information which is embedded into an omnipresent
background consciousness. It has been named Atman and Brahman in ancient
vedic sciptures - Brahman being the cosmic database of all that is and
lives, and Atman being an individual data set. Nowadays these phenomena
appear again in concepts such as the noosphere and morphic or
morphogenetic fields.... When we assume the human body as a resonant
energy system that is a subset of the cosmic field of consciousness, we
can understand reincarnation as a resonance phenomenon. When a living
person recalls vivid memory data of a deceased person to that extent
that the living person starts to identify itself with the deceased, then
this appears as a reincarnation of the deceased individual.
Furthermore, resonance with the same set of data can of course occur in
more than one physical vehicle, which could explain why more than one
individual can recall the same personal life records, which may give the
impression of multiple reincarnation. The situation is very similar to
the same TV broadcast appearing on different TV sets. What is essential
here is not the manifestation in a physical vehicle. The essence is to
be seen in the recorded field information. The latter can be called a
soul, but in essence it is just data. This is all supported not only by
the so-called reincanation cases, but also by cellular memory phenomena
such as being observed in organ transplant receivers."
"Karma Rinchen Dawa +Steve Sawyer
There is a series of 4 videos on my channel, all titled "DNA is the Secret".
It is a bit outdated, but gives you a good introduction into the terms.
With resonance, I refer to electromagnetic resonance of a system of
charges, just in the scrict physics sense, and not as a metaphor. The
body is made of atoms and molecules, which are charged particles. Such
systems have frequencies to which they resonate - called their
eigenfrequencies. In resonance state, the system is absorbing energy
from the vacuum, just like a radio receiver does. And just as a radio
reciever, it also absorbs the information contained therein. As you will
realize, this is a very technical issue, and to begin with, one must
understand radio transmission principles, and apply them to the
structures of living cells."
"Consciousness without a brain? This report suggests consciousness survives even without a body."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yosn_GHYiR4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yosn_GHYiR4
9 January 2015 04:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In a recent interview on Waking Times aired on The People’s Voice
Network, Dr. Eben Alexander, Harvard Neurosurgeon presents compelling
scientific research in the field of consciousness that examines the
unfolding reality that the brain does NOT create consciousness. Misleading concepts that focus on reductive materialism have kept us in
the dark about the true nature of the human soul and its integral part
in our evolution as spiritual beings.
“The old paradigm of birth to death represents an outdated concept
that is woefully inadequate in defining the unfolding reality of
expanded awareness,” he stated in the interview with Waking Times.
“Materialist science is at the end of its days as most scientists are
changing their views. The old concepts are soon to be relegated to the
same dust bin as ‘the earth is flat’ as we develop a more mature
understanding and transcend old beliefs.”
Supported by worldwide research that is now delving into the concepts
of string theory that involves a complete reworking of our outdated and
limited views of space/time means that we are now entering a phase
where science will greatly expand its boundaries.
The foundation of the research begins with the clear understanding of
the “Soul”, or conscious spirit, that exists outside of the body and is
eternal.
“Consciousness is at the core to unfolding all of reality”, states Alexander.
http://consciouslifenews.com/brain-create-consciousness/1171872/
Network, Dr. Eben Alexander, Harvard Neurosurgeon presents compelling
scientific research in the field of consciousness that examines the
unfolding reality that the brain does NOT create consciousness. Misleading concepts that focus on reductive materialism have kept us in
the dark about the true nature of the human soul and its integral part
in our evolution as spiritual beings.
“The old paradigm of birth to death represents an outdated concept
that is woefully inadequate in defining the unfolding reality of
expanded awareness,” he stated in the interview with Waking Times.
“Materialist science is at the end of its days as most scientists are
changing their views. The old concepts are soon to be relegated to the
same dust bin as ‘the earth is flat’ as we develop a more mature
understanding and transcend old beliefs.”
Supported by worldwide research that is now delving into the concepts
of string theory that involves a complete reworking of our outdated and
limited views of space/time means that we are now entering a phase
where science will greatly expand its boundaries.
The foundation of the research begins with the clear understanding of
the “Soul”, or conscious spirit, that exists outside of the body and is
eternal.
“Consciousness is at the core to unfolding all of reality”, states Alexander.
http://consciouslifenews.com/brain-create-consciousness/1171872/
http://consciouslifenews.com/brain-create-consciousness/1171872/
9 January 2015 04:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
happen Si Dystopia, jup am mostly in home. Hahah so how was ther?
)(am actually middle of something on this comment aria...)
)(am actually middle of something on this comment aria...)
9 January 2015 04:16
Margus Meigo commented on Kim Marcussen's link.
Yeah as future evolved away, but we can cach up : )
9 January 2015 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on Kim Marcussen's link.
..hey.. did u read that last comment "Could this be the electronic trap that Xenu set-up in Earth's atmosphere in an act of genocide...lol. Viva Hubbard:)"
9 January 2015 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on Roger Steel's photo.
Specially the guy with a camera
9 January 2015 00:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
J: some material that comes handy with ur wishes
www.secretservice.gov/join/SAEE-StudyGuide.pdf
http://education-portal.com/articles/Become_a_Secret_Service_Agent_Step-by-Step_Career_Guide.html :p
http://www.nps.gov/hofr/forkids/upload/Junior-Secret-Service-Training-Manual.pdf (for kids :D )
But something more interesting for web mind:
https://publicintelligence.net/network-intrusion-responder-program/
..well on that last link a lot of interesting actually8 January 2015 23:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
As we, Estonians like to talk about weather a lot as well (as word for weather and entire world situaion is same Word),
besides weather, how is it?
God good place to stay on these times?8 January 2015 21:16
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's photo.
(kuigi need huuled olid üks ainukesi kodumaa meeldetuletusi mu kaugsetes aegades)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1864214041823&set=a.1863491663764.2105367.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1864214041823&set=a.1863491663764.2105367.1135161043&type=3&theater
8 January 2015 00:02
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's photo.
ei saa pihta
8 January 2015 00:00
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's photo.
Väga timm : )
7 January 2015 23:53
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's photo.
result: two people sit and say nothing besides "hey have you heard about..."
7 January 2015 23:42
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's photo.
ahahah siis mul oli sama plaan
7 January 2015 23:42
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's photo.
ma ka sellele mõelnud, suht kreepy
7 January 2015 23:41
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's photo.
Mehed kõhe mõtlevad, et kas App Store ka on preinstalled...
7 January 2015 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's photo.
aaaaakwaard
7 January 2015 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's photo.
Kena
7 January 2015 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's photo.
True
7 January 2015 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's photo.
secure, loyal, helegant, hari or naive..
7 January 2015 23:38
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's photo.
Ma lipsude suhtes alergiline,eriti kui nad punased veel on :p
Pole veel vabat meest näinud kes lipsu kannaks, okey.. vb Rodriguez (ühel videol nägin)..kuid see paningi mind nukralt mõtlema "ega ometi tema ka..."
Pole veel vabat meest näinud kes lipsu kannaks, okey.. vb Rodriguez (ühel videol nägin)..kuid see paningi mind nukralt mõtlema "ega ometi tema ka..."
7 January 2015 23:35
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's photo.
:D
7 January 2015 23:31
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's photo.
Kes sul see paparazy on kes järgi käib pidevalt
7 January 2015 23:31
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's photo.
Romeo likes, newer mind it is complicated
7 January 2015 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's photo.
hhahaha :D
(Y)
Väga hea
(Y)
Väga hea
7 January 2015 23:25
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's post.
Lõdva nagu lõvi, kes nii poleks siis aegajalt tundnud
7 January 2015 23:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.
7 January 2015 17:52
Margus Meigo commented on Ülo Meigo's post.
need valusad videod.... see on see liha tarbimine..
7 January 2015 01:58
Margus Meigo commented on Gail R. Ducharme's photo.
Man, Am have heard that it does not affect the memory
6 January 2015 03:15
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Mihkelson's post.
Õnnitlused
5 January 2015 13:36
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's photo.
nicest purest religious thoughts that am have read for some time : )
5 January 2015 11:01
Margus Meigo commented on Margie VE's post.
Group: Conscious Life Global
Bill Gates is awesame, he wants to make graphene-based condoms to help a world :P
" For superman penises: Graphene is 200 times stronger than steel. Bill Gates fund development of graphene-based condoms in University of
Manchester with $100,000 dollars...
Once more: Graphene is just
one atom thick, but it’s poised to cast a wide shadow over the future of
business. Some 200 times stronger than steel yet lighter than paper and
more flexible than a contortionist,
The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has even donated $100,000 to the University of Manchester to help fund development of graphene-based condoms.
...graphene is hailed as a miracle material with the potential to
revolutionize products and processes across industries from consumer
electronics to biomedicine.
Okey lets read once more... 200 times stronger than steel...yes, good for tanks?
yeah? and for candoms: Gates Foundation has even donated $100,000 to
the University of Manchester to help fund development of graphene-based
condoms.
I guess the ordinary candoms really cant hold the African penises
https://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/advisor/stronger-steel-material-could-change-world-170000764.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/034848_microsoft_merck_eugenics.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQtRI7A064&feature=related (not really)https://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/advisor/stronger-steel-material-could-change-world-170000764.html
5 January 2015 03:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Conscious Life Global
the xenu people seem to be alright, just a:
"They believe that all personal problems are the result of an "implant" that evil aliens forced upon us over a trillion years ago. They believe
that the MEST (Matter, Energy, Space and Time) was created by bored,
immortal all-powerful beings called "thetans." The implant will not
allow you to recognize your true nature as a "thetan." We are all
thetans.
They believe that an electronic device called an "E-meter" can
detect the presence of repressed memories from pre-birth or past lives.
These repressed memories, called "engrams," cause all the "aberrations"
that keep us from realizing our full potential. Luckily we can be
systematically "cleared" of these engrams by undergoing the process of
"auditing." After becoming clear the Scientologist will have a perfect
memory, superior mathematical skills and perhaps even a few supernatural
powers.
In the early days of Dianetics the claim was made that clears could grow new teeth"
Seems leggit, some shamans can also grow new teeth5 January 2015 03:18
Margus Meigo commented on Jason Palmer's post.
Here is half way painted the aristotele-greek police-city-public school mind set vs proper religious-scriptual-jew https://sites.google.com/site/waffad/home/HebrewVSgreecevs.odt?attredirects=0&d=1
5 January 2015 00:53
Margus Meigo commented on Jason Palmer's post.
Irony is that the same philosph that plato and other Greek-Roman hellenists nurtured allowed to destroyed basically all religious kingdoms there is with systematic invasion of all kind imagined
But yea, kingdoms is the way
---this guy seems alright:
"...[Marcus] did not meet with the good fortune that he deserved, for
he was not strong in body and was involved in a multitude of troubles
throughout practically his entire reign. But for my part, I admire him
all the more for this very reason, that amid unusual and extraordinary
difficulties he both survived himself and preserved the empire. Just one
thing prevented him from being completely happy, namely, that after
rearing and educating his son in the best possible way he was vastly
disappointed in him. This matter must be our next topic; for our history
now descends from a kingdom of gold to one of iron and rust, as affairs
did for the Romans of that day. –Cassius Dio 71.36.3 "
Michael Grant, in The Climax of Rome (1968), writes of Commodus:
"The youth turned out to be very erratic or at least so
anti-traditional that disaster was inevitable. But whether or not Marcus
ought to have known this to be so, the rejections of his son's claims
in favour of someone else would almost certainly involved one of the
civil wars which were to proliferate so disastrous around future
successions. "
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Aurelius#Attitude_towards_Christians
But yea, kingdoms is the way
---this guy seems alright:
"...[Marcus] did not meet with the good fortune that he deserved, for
he was not strong in body and was involved in a multitude of troubles
throughout practically his entire reign. But for my part, I admire him
all the more for this very reason, that amid unusual and extraordinary
difficulties he both survived himself and preserved the empire. Just one
thing prevented him from being completely happy, namely, that after
rearing and educating his son in the best possible way he was vastly
disappointed in him. This matter must be our next topic; for our history
now descends from a kingdom of gold to one of iron and rust, as affairs
did for the Romans of that day. –Cassius Dio 71.36.3 "
Michael Grant, in The Climax of Rome (1968), writes of Commodus:
"The youth turned out to be very erratic or at least so
anti-traditional that disaster was inevitable. But whether or not Marcus
ought to have known this to be so, the rejections of his son's claims
in favour of someone else would almost certainly involved one of the
civil wars which were to proliferate so disastrous around future
successions. "
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Aurelius#Attitude_towards_Christians
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Aurelius#Attitude_towards_Christians
5 January 2015 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Our own grew on the picture?
5 January 2015 00:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Aitah Ilme Jesse : ))
4 January 2015 22:58
Margus Meigo commented on Антон Вовк's photo.
My brother from another mother
4 January 2015 18:29
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
ooh.. march..
1 January 2015 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
New place? : ))
1 January 2015 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
Family? : ))
1 January 2015 03:30
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
mine to
21 December 2014 06:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"The Second World War was a duel between the Gnostic teachings of Gurdjieff and that of the Dag Dugpas. This duel was imported from Tibet
and it was a war between the white and black magicians of Tibet.
.. "was.."
"These black magicians are again very active in South America among many
pseudo-Gnostic groups who fall fascinated with this type of
pseudo-esotericism from these Mediums – or Channellers, to be more
specific with this pseudo-esotericist term - of this day and
age!"
"We Gnostics know very well that Hitler understood these things and nonetheless still he let himself be dazzled by the "Man with the green
gloves" who belonged to the Dag Dugpa Clan.
"This black Tibetan monk from the clan of Dag Dugpa was the one who
“through his oracles” taught Hitler how to crystallize everything
negatively.
This is why (in the second world war) the Dag Dugpa monks in the streets
of Lhasa were celebrating the capitulation of Berlin (when Hitler fell
into
their hands completely, and he became a Hannasmuss, who then began all
of his craziness).
-----------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV7IBZKF5Ow
o there's three types of training for spiritual or paranormal powers:
1) The Monk which is emotional training.
2) The yogi which is mind training.
3) The fakir which is body training.
Now Gurdjieff says his way is the "fourth" which means to combine the above three for a "new" way.
In actuality what Gurdjieff was teaching is the same as "Taoist Yoga"
aka the small universe or microcosmic orbit training - Gurdjieff called
it
circulation of energy exercises.
So the philosophy that Gurdjieff uses is harmonics but this is where the
West misunderstands Gurdjieff because the harmonics necessary for
paranormal
or spiritual power are nonwestern harmonics.
----------
There is something called the "Eternal Religion" and it really has existed for as long as the universe has been in existence.So,
this religion has existed before there were humans, before there was anearth, even.
There are 4 main principles of this religion:
1.Every member of this religion is entitled to 'enough' wealth.
2.Every member is entitled to Love.
3.Every member is entitled to Divine Work (Dharma).
4. Every member is entitled to KNOW GOD completely.
So, if you belong to an organization that supports all these goals, you are automatically a member of the Eternal Religion.
Hitler 'had Jewish and African roots', DNA tests show
Anna Maria Schicklgruber
"With regards to the "HoloHoax," that is a specialist subject which can be endlessly debated and cannot be answered in a single paragraph or
even a
single thread; I have spent years debating this issue, and I simply
cannot be bothered debating the matter with stupid people any more,
especially as
there are numerous academics and experts who have dedicated their lives
to debunking Neo nazi propaganda"
o the videos are of dances that were created by Gurdjieff. These dances were choreographed by Gurdjieff and performed by his students in New
York.
One of the more interesting revivals came at the hands of Jeanne
Salzmann and it is her videos that I have added here.
Warning: Without reading above you will
have no way of appreciating what you are about to see. It will probably
just look silly to you. But
keep in mind that this was one of Gurdjieff's primary methods of
teaching his students to free themselves from the Moon.
I think that there must be something to this. If the subject matter is dug into more deeply it is found that Gurdjieff insisted that this is a
natural
process and that it could be likened to biological processes here on
Earth in our environment. Other traditions speak of this as well and lot
of these
guys and girls like Steiner and Blavatsky were drawing from Hindu and
sometimes pseudo-Hindu sources for their information on the Eighth
Sphere.
and it was a war between the white and black magicians of Tibet.
.. "was.."
"These black magicians are again very active in South America among many
pseudo-Gnostic groups who fall fascinated with this type of
pseudo-esotericism from these Mediums – or Channellers, to be more
specific with this pseudo-esotericist term - of this day and
age!"
"We Gnostics know very well that Hitler understood these things and nonetheless still he let himself be dazzled by the "Man with the green
gloves" who belonged to the Dag Dugpa Clan.
"This black Tibetan monk from the clan of Dag Dugpa was the one who
“through his oracles” taught Hitler how to crystallize everything
negatively.
This is why (in the second world war) the Dag Dugpa monks in the streets
of Lhasa were celebrating the capitulation of Berlin (when Hitler fell
into
their hands completely, and he became a Hannasmuss, who then began all
of his craziness).
-----------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV7IBZKF5Ow
o there's three types of training for spiritual or paranormal powers:
1) The Monk which is emotional training.
2) The yogi which is mind training.
3) The fakir which is body training.
Now Gurdjieff says his way is the "fourth" which means to combine the above three for a "new" way.
In actuality what Gurdjieff was teaching is the same as "Taoist Yoga"
aka the small universe or microcosmic orbit training - Gurdjieff called
it
circulation of energy exercises.
So the philosophy that Gurdjieff uses is harmonics but this is where the
West misunderstands Gurdjieff because the harmonics necessary for
paranormal
or spiritual power are nonwestern harmonics.
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There is something called the "Eternal Religion" and it really has existed for as long as the universe has been in existence.So,
this religion has existed before there were humans, before there was anearth, even.
There are 4 main principles of this religion:
1.Every member of this religion is entitled to 'enough' wealth.
2.Every member is entitled to Love.
3.Every member is entitled to Divine Work (Dharma).
4. Every member is entitled to KNOW GOD completely.
So, if you belong to an organization that supports all these goals, you are automatically a member of the Eternal Religion.
Hitler 'had Jewish and African roots', DNA tests show
Anna Maria Schicklgruber
"With regards to the "HoloHoax," that is a specialist subject which can be endlessly debated and cannot be answered in a single paragraph or
even a
single thread; I have spent years debating this issue, and I simply
cannot be bothered debating the matter with stupid people any more,
especially as
there are numerous academics and experts who have dedicated their lives
to debunking Neo nazi propaganda"
o the videos are of dances that were created by Gurdjieff. These dances were choreographed by Gurdjieff and performed by his students in New
York.
One of the more interesting revivals came at the hands of Jeanne
Salzmann and it is her videos that I have added here.
Warning: Without reading above you will
have no way of appreciating what you are about to see. It will probably
just look silly to you. But
keep in mind that this was one of Gurdjieff's primary methods of
teaching his students to free themselves from the Moon.
I think that there must be something to this. If the subject matter is dug into more deeply it is found that Gurdjieff insisted that this is a
natural
process and that it could be likened to biological processes here on
Earth in our environment. Other traditions speak of this as well and lot
of these
guys and girls like Steiner and Blavatsky were drawing from Hindu and
sometimes pseudo-Hindu sources for their information on the Eighth
Sphere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV7IBZKF5Ow
21 December 2014 05:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
“‘Before examining these influences,’ began G., ‘and the laws of transformation of Unity in Plurality, we must examine the fundamental law that creates all phenomena in all the diversity or unity of all universes.'”
Most importantly Gurdjieff didn’t pass on and develop his powers in someone else — i.e. create another energy master. Gurdjieff doesn’t
have a replacement
What is clear is that Gurdjieff’s teaching is based on harmonics or what some term “psychic music,” the central secret of my 2001 U of MN
masters thesis, linked at http://nonduality.com/hempel.htm
and focus of my subsequent research, including my previous articles
here. I discovered that the Pythagorean Perfect 5th or 2:3 music
interval, C to G, and the Perfect 4th or 3:4, G to C, are the same as
yang and yin in Taoism. Gurdjieff also relies on the Pythagorean
teachings based on harmonics or what Gurdjieff called the Law of Three,
the fundamental law. (as quoted above)
Western science
converted complimentary opposites, yin and yang, or the Pythagorean
Tetrad of 1:2:3:4, into a symmetrical system through the same diatonic
scale that Gurdjieff presents in his teaching, thereby forever confusing
the West’s understanding of Gurdjieff.
For example the
major third diatonic music interval of Gurdjieff, 4:5, was converted
into 5:4 as the cube root of two while the Pythagorean diatonic minor
sixth, 5:8, was converted into 8:5 as the Golden Ratio. In fact the
extension of the Tetrad, 1:2:3:4 (Perfect 5th/Perfect 4th complimentary
opposite harmonics as the Law of Pythagoras) into symmetric-based ratios
(i.e. Gurdjieff’s 4:5 into 5:4 as the cube root of two) was the product
not of Pythagoras but of Platonic math from Archytas’ creation of the
geometric mean (a “one-to-one correspondence of letter and number”). I
give the technical details in chapter four of my blogbook, http://mothershiplanding.blogspot.com.
Math professor Joe Mazur recently stated that my compilation of this
information is “very valuable” and he recommended that I have it
published in a peer-reviewed academic journal.
G.I. Gurdjieff
Westerners
do not clearly see that the point of Gurdjieff’s “Law of Octaves” is
based on the complimentary opposites or his “Law of Three” known as the
Pythagorean Tetrad, 1:2:3:4. Instead we find various other
interpretations of Gurdjieff’s diatonic Pythagorean scale — that the
interval of the 7th is somehow the secret of Gurdjieff or that since
it’s the same diatonic scale used by the early Christian church this is
why Gurdjieff’s system works, etc. The most famous symbol of Gurdjieff,
the enneagram, was also converted into symmetrical decimals, forever
damning it’s foundation in the Law of Three complimentary opposites.
The current mainstream understanding of Gurdjieff is wrong but qigong or
Taoist yoga clearly explains how to solve this problem.
The third
force beyond yin and yang, the source of the I-thought or the source of
the Pythagorean One, known as the Goddess Harmonia, is what I call
“female formless awareness.”
http://www.mind-energy.net/archives/259-How-Qigong-or-Taoist-Yoga-Explains-Gurdjieff.html
“Contemporary thought realizes the existence of two phenomenon: force and resistance, positive and negative magnetism, positive and negative
electricity, male and female cells, and so on. But it does not observe
even these two forces always and everywhere. No question has ever been
raised as to the third, or if it has been raised it has scarcely been
heard.”
Most importantly Gurdjieff didn’t pass on and develop his powers in someone else — i.e. create another energy master. Gurdjieff doesn’t
have a replacement
What is clear is that Gurdjieff’s teaching is based on harmonics or what some term “psychic music,” the central secret of my 2001 U of MN
masters thesis, linked at http://nonduality.com/hempel.htm
and focus of my subsequent research, including my previous articles
here. I discovered that the Pythagorean Perfect 5th or 2:3 music
interval, C to G, and the Perfect 4th or 3:4, G to C, are the same as
yang and yin in Taoism. Gurdjieff also relies on the Pythagorean
teachings based on harmonics or what Gurdjieff called the Law of Three,
the fundamental law. (as quoted above)
Western science
converted complimentary opposites, yin and yang, or the Pythagorean
Tetrad of 1:2:3:4, into a symmetrical system through the same diatonic
scale that Gurdjieff presents in his teaching, thereby forever confusing
the West’s understanding of Gurdjieff.
For example the
major third diatonic music interval of Gurdjieff, 4:5, was converted
into 5:4 as the cube root of two while the Pythagorean diatonic minor
sixth, 5:8, was converted into 8:5 as the Golden Ratio. In fact the
extension of the Tetrad, 1:2:3:4 (Perfect 5th/Perfect 4th complimentary
opposite harmonics as the Law of Pythagoras) into symmetric-based ratios
(i.e. Gurdjieff’s 4:5 into 5:4 as the cube root of two) was the product
not of Pythagoras but of Platonic math from Archytas’ creation of the
geometric mean (a “one-to-one correspondence of letter and number”). I
give the technical details in chapter four of my blogbook, http://mothershiplanding.blogspot.com.
Math professor Joe Mazur recently stated that my compilation of this
information is “very valuable” and he recommended that I have it
published in a peer-reviewed academic journal.
G.I. Gurdjieff
Westerners
do not clearly see that the point of Gurdjieff’s “Law of Octaves” is
based on the complimentary opposites or his “Law of Three” known as the
Pythagorean Tetrad, 1:2:3:4. Instead we find various other
interpretations of Gurdjieff’s diatonic Pythagorean scale — that the
interval of the 7th is somehow the secret of Gurdjieff or that since
it’s the same diatonic scale used by the early Christian church this is
why Gurdjieff’s system works, etc. The most famous symbol of Gurdjieff,
the enneagram, was also converted into symmetrical decimals, forever
damning it’s foundation in the Law of Three complimentary opposites.
The current mainstream understanding of Gurdjieff is wrong but qigong or
Taoist yoga clearly explains how to solve this problem.
The third
force beyond yin and yang, the source of the I-thought or the source of
the Pythagorean One, known as the Goddess Harmonia, is what I call
“female formless awareness.”
http://www.mind-energy.net/archives/259-How-Qigong-or-Taoist-Yoga-Explains-Gurdjieff.html
“Contemporary thought realizes the existence of two phenomenon: force and resistance, positive and negative magnetism, positive and negative
electricity, male and female cells, and so on. But it does not observe
even these two forces always and everywhere. No question has ever been
raised as to the third, or if it has been raised it has scarcely been
heard.”
http://nonduality.com/hempel.htm
21 December 2014 05:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
From corners..
Tesla and Gurdjieff both mentioned that a particular tone, one that translates to 360 beats per "moment," instills "extra sensory"
perception in some, and feelings of "a presence" in others. True enough,this one relates to how many days used to pass, as opposed to moons, in the course of an ancient year. Whereas track 4 is calming, this one is mentally rousing and a little unsettling to the point of making you get off your seat to accomplish what you feel passionate about.
So it seems that Tesla too subscribed to the idea that everything in the universe is determined by octaves,just like Gurdjieff.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread341645/pg7 yeah heeal yr dna..and the menu..and sex.. and plants.and..thining..
John Lear's theory regarding the "Soul Collector"
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread207841/pg26
"That's pretty rediculous. Soul does't need a "recptor" to collect it here on the physical plane. (moon)"
"Did you read Gurdjieff's "Beelzebub's Tales to his grandson".www.scribd.com/doc/9508584/Beelzebubs-Tales-to-His-Grandson
Also mayor information about cosmology is on Ouspensky's book "In search of the miraculous".
www.scribd.com/doc/6443168/Ouspensky-In-Search-of-the-Miraculous"
Comment: "and I notice that much of sleepers views are similar to how Gurdjieff views ETs...."
What I think that Gurdjieff and others were trying to get across is pretty difficult to grasp. The concept is
slippery, but it seems to suggest that there are to kinds of
individuality a
bad one in which we are asleep and feeding the moon and a good one where
we individuate, have all the power that goes with that and then we have
access to a higher form of cooperation
"am not a fan of either Gurdjieff or Ouspensky. My introduction to Gurdjieff was thru "The Occult" by Colin Wilson. I later read Wilson's
"G.I.
Gurdjieff: The War Against Sleep" -- which did not improve my opinion of
him. Gurdjieff was not an honorable man when it came to women. He
sexually
exploited many of his trusting female acolytes and then threw them away.
In an era when that kind of thing was enough to ruin a woman's life
forever.
No indication he ever cared for any of these women or the many bastards
he produced.
Gurdjieff was clearly a "man of power" -- a type of sorcerer -- superior
to Aleister Crowley, but he was not a fully-realized master, by any
means.
A trickster is right.
(As a footnote, I should say his "dances" were impressive to watch --
especially the ones featured in the movie "Meetings with Remarkable Men"
--
a British film made in 1979. I found this VHS tape in a clearance bin
years ago in a New Age health food store.)
His most important student, Ouspensky, was just sad. A type of dried
out, over-intellectualized husk of a man who repudiated all of his
life's work
before he died.
I remember reading something by Rudolf Steiner years ago, it didn't make
much of an impression on me at the time. (There was someone who visited
one
of his "Waldorf" [?] schools in England back in the 1930's -- I remember
she had a silver spoon from the place -- an old maid). I'm maundering.
What I'm trying to say is that I do not see these people as reliable authorities.
So for "Someday it (the moon) will become a full-fledged planet." I cannot take seriously.
My understanding is that the Moon is an artificial satellite placed
their by ETs a very long time ago to help nurture life on Earth. It's
also (I
believe) an outpost for ET bases."
Anyway this is a deep topic, and yes the writings of Gurdjieff, H.P. Blavatsky, Rudolf Steiner, Dion Fortune, Max Heindel, Manly P. Hall,
etc. are all
very good, and have all paved the way for the public unveiling of the
Great Arcanum.
For reference (instead of reposting the information here), here are
three relevant ATS posts, the first post in regard to putting the
teachings of
Gurdjieff and Ouspensky in perspective, the second post in regard to a
very significant statement made by an alleged
"Illuminati" member, and the third post in regard to the Kabbalah of
Dante Alighieri and the Buddhist explanation of the sub-lunar-spheres:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread631464/pg1#pid10170910
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread402958/pg60#pid11011245
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread664222/pg1#pid10609246
Thanks. Actually Gurdjieff was teaching this truth about alchemy and the cover up of true humans but he was still using "divide and average"
mathematics like the ratio 5:4 which again is the major third. But this
ratio is also the cube root of two. So then people were confused by
Gurdjieff but if you study the book on his alchemy -- "In Search of the
Miraculous" actually his alchemy is the same as Taoist Yoga and it's
based
on the secret of the Perfect Fifth as the infinite spiral of fifths. So
it's better to study the book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality"
to
truly understand Gurdjieff. I have an article on this also -- but what
I'm writing is controversial because nobody approaches Gurdjieff from
the
East but rather from the incorrect Western perspective.
Colin Wilson wrote a fiction book in 1967 called "The Mind Parasites" in which he quotes Gurdjieff as saying "We are all just cattle being
fattened
for the moon". I never checked to see if that was a real quote. Wilson
later made the movie "Life Force" which involves an alien collector of
souls
machine which arrives along with Halley's Comet. On the subject of the
moon, consider Von Reichenbach's research with "lunatics", people who
would go
out in their yards at night and stare at the moon for hours. Creepy.
Tesla and Gurdjieff both mentioned that a particular tone, one that translates to 360 beats per "moment," instills "extra sensory"
perception in some, and feelings of "a presence" in others. True enough,this one relates to how many days used to pass, as opposed to moons, in the course of an ancient year. Whereas track 4 is calming, this one is mentally rousing and a little unsettling to the point of making you get off your seat to accomplish what you feel passionate about.
So it seems that Tesla too subscribed to the idea that everything in the universe is determined by octaves,just like Gurdjieff.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread341645/pg7 yeah heeal yr dna..and the menu..and sex.. and plants.and..thining..
John Lear's theory regarding the "Soul Collector"
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread207841/pg26
"That's pretty rediculous. Soul does't need a "recptor" to collect it here on the physical plane. (moon)"
"Did you read Gurdjieff's "Beelzebub's Tales to his grandson".www.scribd.com/doc/9508584/Beelzebubs-Tales-to-His-Grandson
Also mayor information about cosmology is on Ouspensky's book "In search of the miraculous".
www.scribd.com/doc/6443168/Ouspensky-In-Search-of-the-Miraculous"
Comment: "and I notice that much of sleepers views are similar to how Gurdjieff views ETs...."
What I think that Gurdjieff and others were trying to get across is pretty difficult to grasp. The concept is
slippery, but it seems to suggest that there are to kinds of
individuality a
bad one in which we are asleep and feeding the moon and a good one where
we individuate, have all the power that goes with that and then we have
access to a higher form of cooperation
"am not a fan of either Gurdjieff or Ouspensky. My introduction to Gurdjieff was thru "The Occult" by Colin Wilson. I later read Wilson's
"G.I.
Gurdjieff: The War Against Sleep" -- which did not improve my opinion of
him. Gurdjieff was not an honorable man when it came to women. He
sexually
exploited many of his trusting female acolytes and then threw them away.
In an era when that kind of thing was enough to ruin a woman's life
forever.
No indication he ever cared for any of these women or the many bastards
he produced.
Gurdjieff was clearly a "man of power" -- a type of sorcerer -- superior
to Aleister Crowley, but he was not a fully-realized master, by any
means.
A trickster is right.
(As a footnote, I should say his "dances" were impressive to watch --
especially the ones featured in the movie "Meetings with Remarkable Men"
--
a British film made in 1979. I found this VHS tape in a clearance bin
years ago in a New Age health food store.)
His most important student, Ouspensky, was just sad. A type of dried
out, over-intellectualized husk of a man who repudiated all of his
life's work
before he died.
I remember reading something by Rudolf Steiner years ago, it didn't make
much of an impression on me at the time. (There was someone who visited
one
of his "Waldorf" [?] schools in England back in the 1930's -- I remember
she had a silver spoon from the place -- an old maid). I'm maundering.
What I'm trying to say is that I do not see these people as reliable authorities.
So for "Someday it (the moon) will become a full-fledged planet." I cannot take seriously.
My understanding is that the Moon is an artificial satellite placed
their by ETs a very long time ago to help nurture life on Earth. It's
also (I
believe) an outpost for ET bases."
Anyway this is a deep topic, and yes the writings of Gurdjieff, H.P. Blavatsky, Rudolf Steiner, Dion Fortune, Max Heindel, Manly P. Hall,
etc. are all
very good, and have all paved the way for the public unveiling of the
Great Arcanum.
For reference (instead of reposting the information here), here are
three relevant ATS posts, the first post in regard to putting the
teachings of
Gurdjieff and Ouspensky in perspective, the second post in regard to a
very significant statement made by an alleged
"Illuminati" member, and the third post in regard to the Kabbalah of
Dante Alighieri and the Buddhist explanation of the sub-lunar-spheres:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread631464/pg1#pid10170910
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread402958/pg60#pid11011245
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread664222/pg1#pid10609246
Thanks. Actually Gurdjieff was teaching this truth about alchemy and the cover up of true humans but he was still using "divide and average"
mathematics like the ratio 5:4 which again is the major third. But this
ratio is also the cube root of two. So then people were confused by
Gurdjieff but if you study the book on his alchemy -- "In Search of the
Miraculous" actually his alchemy is the same as Taoist Yoga and it's
based
on the secret of the Perfect Fifth as the infinite spiral of fifths. So
it's better to study the book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality"
to
truly understand Gurdjieff. I have an article on this also -- but what
I'm writing is controversial because nobody approaches Gurdjieff from
the
East but rather from the incorrect Western perspective.
Colin Wilson wrote a fiction book in 1967 called "The Mind Parasites" in which he quotes Gurdjieff as saying "We are all just cattle being
fattened
for the moon". I never checked to see if that was a real quote. Wilson
later made the movie "Life Force" which involves an alien collector of
souls
machine which arrives along with Halley's Comet. On the subject of the
moon, consider Von Reichenbach's research with "lunatics", people who
would go
out in their yards at night and stare at the moon for hours. Creepy.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread341645/pg7
21 December 2014 05:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
in combination with...
Gurdjieff transitions from searching to teaching just after the time spent with the Sarmoung Brotherhood in the Hindu
Kush Mountains of Northern Afghanistan. In 1912, Gurdjieff leaves
Tashkent for Moscow where he begins to recruit candidates for the
Institute. He experiments with different forms and emphases, to find the
necessary cell of people and the appropriate form of expression. Much
of this period is recorded in In Search of the Miraculous by Peter Ouspensky.
Gurdjieff in Russia
Gurdjieff
establishes groups in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. As the Russian
Revolution breaks out, he is forced back down into the Caucasus with an
inner circle of students. During this period, he forms the core of his
Russian disciples: Sophia Gregiorovitch, the De Hartmans, Dr. Stjernval
and the De Salzmann’s. In Moscow, Gurdjieff meets Peter Ouspensky, a
scholar, traveller and journalist with an established reputation in the
field of esotericism. Gurdjieff naturally hopes to use Ouspensky’s
influence in order to expand his own, and Ouspensky, in turn, realizes
that Gurdjieff is in possession of the very esoteric knowledge that he
himself had been long searching for.
Social order begins to collapse in Russia. In 1917, Gurdjieff works
intensively with a small group of people, in Essentuki, Tuapse, Sochi,
Alexandropol, Rostov-on-the-Don, Ekterinodar, and Tiflis.
(offisical..)
http://ggurdjieff.com/teaching/
Gurdjieff transitions from searching to teaching just after the time spent with the Sarmoung Brotherhood in the Hindu
Kush Mountains of Northern Afghanistan. In 1912, Gurdjieff leaves
Tashkent for Moscow where he begins to recruit candidates for the
Institute. He experiments with different forms and emphases, to find the
necessary cell of people and the appropriate form of expression. Much
of this period is recorded in In Search of the Miraculous by Peter Ouspensky.
Gurdjieff in Russia
Gurdjieff
establishes groups in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. As the Russian
Revolution breaks out, he is forced back down into the Caucasus with an
inner circle of students. During this period, he forms the core of his
Russian disciples: Sophia Gregiorovitch, the De Hartmans, Dr. Stjernval
and the De Salzmann’s. In Moscow, Gurdjieff meets Peter Ouspensky, a
scholar, traveller and journalist with an established reputation in the
field of esotericism. Gurdjieff naturally hopes to use Ouspensky’s
influence in order to expand his own, and Ouspensky, in turn, realizes
that Gurdjieff is in possession of the very esoteric knowledge that he
himself had been long searching for.
Social order begins to collapse in Russia. In 1917, Gurdjieff works
intensively with a small group of people, in Essentuki, Tuapse, Sochi,
Alexandropol, Rostov-on-the-Don, Ekterinodar, and Tiflis.
(offisical..)
http://ggurdjieff.com/teaching/
http://ggurdjieff.com/teaching/
21 December 2014 04:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Eurasia_and_eurasianism.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Eurasia_and_eurasianism.png
21 December 2014 04:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
In our Russian* society - specially in the social and political sphere
– at the beginning of the new millennium a deficiency of ideas is
painfully felt. The majority of the people - including governors,
politicians, scientists, workers - are guided in life, in political
choice by a set of momentary factors, casual concerns, transient
ephemeral calls. We are quickly losing any general representation about
the sense of life, about the logic of history, about the problems of
man, about the destiny of the world.
Existential
and social choice has been substituted by aggressive advertising. In
the place of meaningful and accountable political ideology stands some
effective (or ineffective) PR. The outcome of the struggle of ideas is
defined by the volume of investments in entertainment. Dramatic clashes
of peoples, cultures and religions are turned into shows inspired by
transnational corporations and oil holdings. Human blood, human life,
human spirit became statistical abstraction, consumer cost, at its best -
demagogic figure of speech in mellifluous and ambiguous humanitarian
lamentations, hiding a double standard.
In the place of totalitarian uniformity, a totalitarian indifference
has come. The majority of political parties and formalised social
movements pursue tactical purposes. Practically nowhere can be found an
explicit and consequent ideology capable to snatch man from a state of
sleepy indifference, to make life worth living.
http://www.4pt.su/en/content/eurasia-above-all
– at the beginning of the new millennium a deficiency of ideas is
painfully felt. The majority of the people - including governors,
politicians, scientists, workers - are guided in life, in political
choice by a set of momentary factors, casual concerns, transient
ephemeral calls. We are quickly losing any general representation about
the sense of life, about the logic of history, about the problems of
man, about the destiny of the world.
Existential
and social choice has been substituted by aggressive advertising. In
the place of meaningful and accountable political ideology stands some
effective (or ineffective) PR. The outcome of the struggle of ideas is
defined by the volume of investments in entertainment. Dramatic clashes
of peoples, cultures and religions are turned into shows inspired by
transnational corporations and oil holdings. Human blood, human life,
human spirit became statistical abstraction, consumer cost, at its best -
demagogic figure of speech in mellifluous and ambiguous humanitarian
lamentations, hiding a double standard.
In the place of totalitarian uniformity, a totalitarian indifference
has come. The majority of political parties and formalised social
movements pursue tactical purposes. Practically nowhere can be found an
explicit and consequent ideology capable to snatch man from a state of
sleepy indifference, to make life worth living.
http://www.4pt.su/en/content/eurasia-above-all
http://www.4pt.su/en/content/eurasia-above-all
21 December 2014 04:40
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's post.
Üks seene grupp siin faceris, mycoloogide vms oma, jaga neile ka
21 December 2014 04:34
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's post.
Wouaviiva.. midagi ei oska sõnadagi : ))
21 December 2014 04:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Linux Friends
From Linux group Jouni Järvinen :
ls -ARlv / > dirlist.txt
tree -a / > /root/All_Files.txt20 December 2014 06:39
Margus Meigo commented on The Deen Show's video.
Jewsih religion has NEWER been distorted, it is most perfectly preserved, among proper jews and more clear then ever. Also we know most of the details about ALL other upcoming religions and secret sects after first page of Torah was writen.. so be hold..
And there is the ones., who can move in a time, wit hease.
God put all the tools here to moove and learn time, with no meatal needed
And there is the ones., who can move in a time, wit hease.
God put all the tools here to moove and learn time, with no meatal needed
20 December 2014 06:32
Margus Meigo replied to Abdallah El-Terek's comment.
ALHAMDULILLAH
and man does not lie, the one who is not of a man does perhaps
and man does not lie, the one who is not of a man does perhaps
20 December 2014 06:30
Margus Meigo commented on The Deen Show's video.
good video ,thank you!
20 December 2014 06:28
Margus Meigo commented on The Deen Show's video.
god nr 1 has NO need t okee pa secret.. they are gods of same good there is NO secret between them.
as humans should newer have secret
as humans should newer have secret
20 December 2014 06:28
Margus Meigo commented on The Deen Show's video.
IN order to know the truth one needs to know the nature, torah and love a women
20 December 2014 06:27
Margus Meigo commented on The Deen Show's video.
this is so silly from to ask "if gad can be" .. asking from a human.. from a man.. not even a woman..
God can be all that is not bad as there is no infinite benafit of bad, and
god is benafitor.. so one would not do bad for himself, only good. And
if was needed to be in humans bodyes.. then so be it as long it was good
and helped Isalm to become
As
can there a be true islam withe out proper first god people and
scriptures ... maybe, but as it WAS already and god does not make
useless things.. then what is first, is most important, as one knows
from first to the end what results one wants to get... so Jew was first
and what was before Jew is before jew and what was before Sumerians is
before sumerians..
Yjere
is only one God in Jewish and Christian - there is also some other
christian versions coming from Greek point of view, but even them , all
will be one in the end.. for god is less important how we imagine him to
be but waht we do on eart, how we care for nature and a The Women's Marijuana Movement
God can be all that is not bad as there is no infinite benafit of bad, and
god is benafitor.. so one would not do bad for himself, only good. And
if was needed to be in humans bodyes.. then so be it as long it was good
and helped Isalm to become
As
can there a be true islam withe out proper first god people and
scriptures ... maybe, but as it WAS already and god does not make
useless things.. then what is first, is most important, as one knows
from first to the end what results one wants to get... so Jew was first
and what was before Jew is before jew and what was before Sumerians is
before sumerians..
Yjere
is only one God in Jewish and Christian - there is also some other
christian versions coming from Greek point of view, but even them , all
will be one in the end.. for god is less important how we imagine him to
be but waht we do on eart, how we care for nature and a The Women's Marijuana Movement
20 December 2014 06:26
Margus Meigo commented on Khairi Didi Omar's post.
this is so silly from to ask "if gad can be" .. asking from a human.. from a man.. not even a woman..
God can be all that is not bad as there is no infinite benafit of bad, and
god is benafitor.. so one would not do bad for himself, only good. And
if was needed to be in humans bodyes.. then so be it as long it was good
and helped Isalm to become
As
can there a be true islam withe out proper first god people and
scriptures ... maybe, but as it WAS already and god does not make
useless things.. then what is first, is most important, as one knows
from first to the end what results one wants to get... so Jew was first
and what was before Jew is before jew and what was before Sumerians is
before sumerians..
Yjere
is only one God in Jewish and Christian - there is also some other
christian versions coming from Greek point of view, but even them , all
will be one in the end.. for god is less important how we imagine him to
be but waht we do on eart, how we care for nature and a Women
God can be all that is not bad as there is no infinite benafit of bad, and
god is benafitor.. so one would not do bad for himself, only good. And
if was needed to be in humans bodyes.. then so be it as long it was good
and helped Isalm to become
As
can there a be true islam withe out proper first god people and
scriptures ... maybe, but as it WAS already and god does not make
useless things.. then what is first, is most important, as one knows
from first to the end what results one wants to get... so Jew was first
and what was before Jew is before jew and what was before Sumerians is
before sumerians..
Yjere
is only one God in Jewish and Christian - there is also some other
christian versions coming from Greek point of view, but even them , all
will be one in the end.. for god is less important how we imagine him to
be but waht we do on eart, how we care for nature and a Women
20 December 2014 06:26
Margus Meigo commented on Sannie Kia Krøger's photo.
Kids will be good.. make sure the stars will not get them.. a
20 December 2014 06:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
This is not just a song, words means everything.,
-
so when my voice breaks
its called interpretation when i
held a note, it's cuz i want to
not cuz i feel anything about you
so don't flatter yourself thinking that i love you
make you emotional
from major to the minor when i lose control
i'm not trying to impress you
break it down, did i get your attention
but it's just formula
don't need your validation
validation
This is just a song
The music plays in back
Then it's gone again
This is just a song
The words don't mean a thing
So everytime I sang 'i loved you all along'
remember, remember, this is just a song
now i feel nothing
yes, I'm on auto-pilot
I have sung these words
even sing them when i'm sleeping
just cuz you have showed up here to see me
doesn't mean I'm going home with you this evening
i know december is the month we met
but it rhymes with remember
or did you forget
i was only giving a performance
i hardly noticed that you were in the audience
in the audience
This is just a song
The music plays in back
Then it's gone again
This is just a song
The words don't mean a thing
So everytime I sang 'i loved you all along'
remember, remember, this is just a song
everybody knows that this is just a song and i don't feel a thing for you
everybody knows that rhythm line and structure doesn't mean i love you
This is just a song
The music plays in back
Then it's gone again
This is just a song
The words don't mean a thing
So everytime I sang 'i loved you all along'
remember, remember, this is just a song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl5xl1PRaqc
-
so when my voice breaks
its called interpretation when i
held a note, it's cuz i want to
not cuz i feel anything about you
so don't flatter yourself thinking that i love you
make you emotional
from major to the minor when i lose control
i'm not trying to impress you
break it down, did i get your attention
but it's just formula
don't need your validation
validation
This is just a song
The music plays in back
Then it's gone again
This is just a song
The words don't mean a thing
So everytime I sang 'i loved you all along'
remember, remember, this is just a song
now i feel nothing
yes, I'm on auto-pilot
I have sung these words
even sing them when i'm sleeping
just cuz you have showed up here to see me
doesn't mean I'm going home with you this evening
i know december is the month we met
but it rhymes with remember
or did you forget
i was only giving a performance
i hardly noticed that you were in the audience
in the audience
This is just a song
The music plays in back
Then it's gone again
This is just a song
The words don't mean a thing
So everytime I sang 'i loved you all along'
remember, remember, this is just a song
everybody knows that this is just a song and i don't feel a thing for you
everybody knows that rhythm line and structure doesn't mean i love you
This is just a song
The music plays in back
Then it's gone again
This is just a song
The words don't mean a thing
So everytime I sang 'i loved you all along'
remember, remember, this is just a song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl5xl1PRaqc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl5xl1PRaqc
20 December 2014 04:45
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/248063067/Hagan-vs-Glidden-Complaint
http://www.scribd.com/doc/248063067/Hagan-vs-Glidden-Complaint
20 December 2014 04:26
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
or is that really even fitting INsane..
20 December 2014 04:22
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
insane
20 December 2014 04:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Linux
Command actualli is running, can sort out the .dot folders later as well, thats good and simple19 December 2014 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Linux
Nice one.
And complete listing of all parition files with out .dot folders? (but all other folders that have some premissions that need root)19 December 2014 23:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Linux Friends
actualy best outbut would be FIlename / subdirectory name (only) / size of file .. to txt19 December 2014 23:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Linux Friends
Like just file name and size , list of all that. in txt.. Hmm
getting old19 December 2014 23:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
He never ever saw it coming at all
He never ever saw it coming at all
He never ever saw it coming at all
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
Hey, open wide here comes original sin
Hey, open wide here comes original sin
Hey, open wide here comes original sin
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
No one's got it all
No one's got it all
No one's got it all
Power to the people
We don't want it
We want pleasure
And the T.V.s try to rape us
And I guess that they're succeeding
Now we're going to these meetings
But we're not doin' any meetin'
And we're trying to be faithful but we're cheatin', cheatin', cheatin'
Hey, open wide here comes original sin
Hey, open wide here comes original sin
Hey, open wide here comes original sin
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
No one's got it all
No one's got it all
No one's got it all
Power to the people
We don't want it
We want pleasure
And the T.V.s try to rape us
And I guess that they're succeeding
And we're going to these meetings
But we're not doin' any meetin'
And we're trying to be faithful but we're cheatin', cheatin', cheatin'
I'm the hero of the story
Don't need to be saved
I'm the hero of the story
Don't need to be saved
I'm the hero of the story
Don't need to be saved
I'm the hero of the story
Don't need to be saved
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
No one's got it all
No one's got it all
No one's got it all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOQ3R3MNcv8&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=27
He never ever saw it coming at all
He never ever saw it coming at all
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
Hey, open wide here comes original sin
Hey, open wide here comes original sin
Hey, open wide here comes original sin
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
No one's got it all
No one's got it all
No one's got it all
Power to the people
We don't want it
We want pleasure
And the T.V.s try to rape us
And I guess that they're succeeding
Now we're going to these meetings
But we're not doin' any meetin'
And we're trying to be faithful but we're cheatin', cheatin', cheatin'
Hey, open wide here comes original sin
Hey, open wide here comes original sin
Hey, open wide here comes original sin
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
No one's got it all
No one's got it all
No one's got it all
Power to the people
We don't want it
We want pleasure
And the T.V.s try to rape us
And I guess that they're succeeding
And we're going to these meetings
But we're not doin' any meetin'
And we're trying to be faithful but we're cheatin', cheatin', cheatin'
I'm the hero of the story
Don't need to be saved
I'm the hero of the story
Don't need to be saved
I'm the hero of the story
Don't need to be saved
I'm the hero of the story
Don't need to be saved
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
It's al-right, it's al-right, it's al-right
No one's got it all
No one's got it all
No one's got it all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOQ3R3MNcv8&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOQ3R3MNcv8&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=27
19 December 2014 19:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(take look at thaat video on the seccond half.. aww..)
The flowers you gave me are rotting and still I refuse to throw them away.
Some of the bulbs never opened quite fully
They might so i'm waiting and staying awake.
Things I have loved i'm allowed to keep
I'll never know if I go to sleep.
The papers around me are piling and twisting regina the paper back mummy
what then.
I'm taking the knife to the books that I own and chopping and chopping and boiling soup from stone.
Things I have loved i'm allowed to keep.
I'll never know if I go to sleep.
Things I have loved i'm allowed to keep.
I'll never know if I go to sleep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bejmATCIjOs&index=27&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU
The flowers you gave me are rotting and still I refuse to throw them away.
Some of the bulbs never opened quite fully
They might so i'm waiting and staying awake.
Things I have loved i'm allowed to keep
I'll never know if I go to sleep.
The papers around me are piling and twisting regina the paper back mummy
what then.
I'm taking the knife to the books that I own and chopping and chopping and boiling soup from stone.
Things I have loved i'm allowed to keep.
I'll never know if I go to sleep.
Things I have loved i'm allowed to keep.
I'll never know if I go to sleep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bejmATCIjOs&index=27&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bejmATCIjOs&index=27&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU
19 December 2014 18:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
A heart that's full up like a landfill
A job that slowly kills you
Bruises that won't heal
You look so tired, unhappy
Bring down the government
They don't, they don't speak for us
I'll take a quiet life
A handshake of carbon monoxide
With no alarms and no surprises
No alarms and no surprises
No alarms and no surprises
Silence, silence
This is my final fit
My final bellyache
With no alarms and no surprises
No alarms and no surprises
No alarms and no surprises please
Such a pretty house
And such a pretty garden
No alarms and no surprises
(Get me outta here)
No alarms and no surprises
(Get me outta here)
No alarms and no surprises, please
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJIXm9sQoQc&index=25&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU
A job that slowly kills you
Bruises that won't heal
You look so tired, unhappy
Bring down the government
They don't, they don't speak for us
I'll take a quiet life
A handshake of carbon monoxide
With no alarms and no surprises
No alarms and no surprises
No alarms and no surprises
Silence, silence
This is my final fit
My final bellyache
With no alarms and no surprises
No alarms and no surprises
No alarms and no surprises please
Such a pretty house
And such a pretty garden
No alarms and no surprises
(Get me outta here)
No alarms and no surprises
(Get me outta here)
No alarms and no surprises, please
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJIXm9sQoQc&index=25&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJIXm9sQoQc&index=25&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU
19 December 2014 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
It is good for now
19 December 2014 18:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
by that am mean muxh less then with all the songs and pictures that has been posted before, but sometimes when storm comes the internet might work slow at best.. specially if magnetic storms come, that cant be to good for internet : )
19 December 2014 18:38
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
TIme is up...,
Praise the time!
Praise the time!
19 December 2014 18:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
You will start to hear, think, feel
these lürics.. You will, sooner the better
these lürics.. You will, sooner the better
19 December 2014 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
He stumbled into faith and thought,
"God, this is all there is."
The pictures in his mind arose
And began to breathe
And all the gods and all the worlds
Began colliding on a backdrop of blue
Blue lips, blue veins
He took a step but then felt tired
He said, "I'll rest a little while"
But when he tried to walk again
He wasn't a child
And all the people hurried fast, real fast
And no one ever smiled
Blue lips, blue veins
Blue, the color of our planet
From far, far away
Blue lips, blue veins
Blue, the color of our planet
From far, far away
He stumbled into faith and thought,
"God, this is all there is."
The pictures in his mind arose
And began to breathe
And no one saw and no one heard
They just followed the lead
The pictures in his mind awoke
And began to breed
They started off beneath the knowledge tree
And they chopped it down to make a picket fence
And marching along the railroad tracks
They smiled real wide for the camera lenses
As they made it past the enemy lines
Just to become enslaved in the assembly lines
Blue lips, blue veins
Blue, the color of our planet
From far, far away
Blue lips, blue veins
Blue, the color of our planet
From far, far away
Blue, the most human color [3x]
Blue lips, blue veins
Blue, the color of our planet
From far, far away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqQXJ16mzrk&index=27&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU
"God, this is all there is."
The pictures in his mind arose
And began to breathe
And all the gods and all the worlds
Began colliding on a backdrop of blue
Blue lips, blue veins
He took a step but then felt tired
He said, "I'll rest a little while"
But when he tried to walk again
He wasn't a child
And all the people hurried fast, real fast
And no one ever smiled
Blue lips, blue veins
Blue, the color of our planet
From far, far away
Blue lips, blue veins
Blue, the color of our planet
From far, far away
He stumbled into faith and thought,
"God, this is all there is."
The pictures in his mind arose
And began to breathe
And no one saw and no one heard
They just followed the lead
The pictures in his mind awoke
And began to breed
They started off beneath the knowledge tree
And they chopped it down to make a picket fence
And marching along the railroad tracks
They smiled real wide for the camera lenses
As they made it past the enemy lines
Just to become enslaved in the assembly lines
Blue lips, blue veins
Blue, the color of our planet
From far, far away
Blue lips, blue veins
Blue, the color of our planet
From far, far away
Blue, the most human color [3x]
Blue lips, blue veins
Blue, the color of our planet
From far, far away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqQXJ16mzrk&index=27&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqQXJ16mzrk&index=27&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU
19 December 2014 18:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
They made a statue of us
And it put it on a mountain top
Now tourists come and stare at us
Blow bubbles with their gum
Take photographs have fun, have fun
They'll name a city after us
And later say it's all our fault
Then they'll give us a talking to
Then they'll give us a talking to
Because they've got years of experience
We're living in a den of thieves
Rummaging for answers in the pages
We're living in a den of thieves
And it's contagious
And it's contagious
And it's contagious
And it's contagious
We wear our scarves just like a noose
But not 'cause we want eternal sleep
And though our parts are slightly used
New ones are slave labor you can keep
We're living in a den of thieves
Rummaging for answers in the pages
We're living in a den of thieves
And it's contagious
And it's contagious
And it's contagious
And it's contagious
They made a statue of us
They made a statue of us
The tourists come and stare at us
The sculptor's marble sends regards
They made a statue of us
They made a statue of us
Our noses have begun to rust
We're living in a den of thieves
Rummaging for answers in the pages
Were living in a den of thieves
And it's contagious
And it's contagious..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fczPlmz-Vug&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=27
And it put it on a mountain top
Now tourists come and stare at us
Blow bubbles with their gum
Take photographs have fun, have fun
They'll name a city after us
And later say it's all our fault
Then they'll give us a talking to
Then they'll give us a talking to
Because they've got years of experience
We're living in a den of thieves
Rummaging for answers in the pages
We're living in a den of thieves
And it's contagious
And it's contagious
And it's contagious
And it's contagious
We wear our scarves just like a noose
But not 'cause we want eternal sleep
And though our parts are slightly used
New ones are slave labor you can keep
We're living in a den of thieves
Rummaging for answers in the pages
We're living in a den of thieves
And it's contagious
And it's contagious
And it's contagious
And it's contagious
They made a statue of us
They made a statue of us
The tourists come and stare at us
The sculptor's marble sends regards
They made a statue of us
They made a statue of us
Our noses have begun to rust
We're living in a den of thieves
Rummaging for answers in the pages
Were living in a den of thieves
And it's contagious
And it's contagious..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fczPlmz-Vug&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fczPlmz-Vug&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=27
19 December 2014 17:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Just worry dear just worry that will pas
19 December 2014 17:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Fortunately, finding weed all over the world is no longer a scavenger hunt. Because there’s an app to help you find the best weed where it’s legal to do so.
And soon, those Weedmaps will live all over the world.
http://weedmaps.com/
And soon, those Weedmaps will live all over the world.
http://weedmaps.com/
http://weedmaps.com/
19 December 2014 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
He was a husband who drove his wife home
Drunk from the parties
He was a husband who drove his wife home
And in the car he would lean her head gently
Against the side door window
And in the bathroom he would
Hold her hair back and hope
Saying, oh
They build buildings, oh, they build buildings, oh
They build buildings, oh, they build buildings, oh
They build buildings, oh, they build buildings, oh
They build buildings so tall these days
And in the morning she'd wake up and
Crouch recollections all day
But she would always
Always wake up the next morning
He'd take one look at her a say, "Oh"
"Oh, it's okay"
And her conscience
Would issue yet another last warning
Saying, oh
They build buildings, oh, they build buildings, oh
They build buildings, oh, they build buildings, oh
They build buildings, oh, they build buildings, oh
They build buildings so tall these days
And she would ask for time
And she'd ask for time
And she'd ask for time
And she'd beg for time
And she would beg for time
And she'd beg for time
And call it a gift
And he would give her time
And he'd give her time
And he'd give her time
And he'd give her time
But time is not given and time is not taken
It just sifts through its sift
But time is not given and time is not taken
It just sifts through its sift
Sifts through its sift
Just sifts through its sift
Oh, sifts through its sift
Just sifts through its sift
When coffee and coffee and coffee
And coffee and coffee and coffee some more
He'd go to work and she'd take a sick day
And rot at the core
And by the time he came back, she'd scrub the bathrooms
And make it smell like pine
It would be almost as if nothing had happened
And he'd give her time, oh, oh, and he'd give her time
Saying, oh
They build buildings, oh, they build buildings, oh
They build buildings, oh don't they build buildings, oh
They build buildings, oh, they build buildings, oh
They build buildings so tall these days
And she would ask for time
And she'd ask for time
She'd ask for time
She'd beg for time
And she would beg for time
And she'd beg for time
And call it a gift
And he would give her time
And he'd give her time
And he'd give her time
And he'd give her time
But time is not given and time is not taken
It just sifts through its sift
But time is not given and time is not taken
It just sifts through its sift
Oh, sifts through its sift
Sifts through its sift
Oh, sifts through its sift
Sifts through its sift
He was a husband, drove, time
Hope, time, car, oh, core
Core, sick day, core
coffee, core warning, last warning
Was a husband, time, pine scrub, scrub
Bathroom, lean, hair, back
Car window, hope, time, give, don't they
Build buildings tall these days
Read more: Regina Spektor - Buildings Lyrics | MetroLyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vanmmHQVysQ&index=23&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU
Drunk from the parties
He was a husband who drove his wife home
And in the car he would lean her head gently
Against the side door window
And in the bathroom he would
Hold her hair back and hope
Saying, oh
They build buildings, oh, they build buildings, oh
They build buildings, oh, they build buildings, oh
They build buildings, oh, they build buildings, oh
They build buildings so tall these days
And in the morning she'd wake up and
Crouch recollections all day
But she would always
Always wake up the next morning
He'd take one look at her a say, "Oh"
"Oh, it's okay"
And her conscience
Would issue yet another last warning
Saying, oh
They build buildings, oh, they build buildings, oh
They build buildings, oh, they build buildings, oh
They build buildings, oh, they build buildings, oh
They build buildings so tall these days
And she would ask for time
And she'd ask for time
And she'd ask for time
And she'd beg for time
And she would beg for time
And she'd beg for time
And call it a gift
And he would give her time
And he'd give her time
And he'd give her time
And he'd give her time
But time is not given and time is not taken
It just sifts through its sift
But time is not given and time is not taken
It just sifts through its sift
Sifts through its sift
Just sifts through its sift
Oh, sifts through its sift
Just sifts through its sift
When coffee and coffee and coffee
And coffee and coffee and coffee some more
He'd go to work and she'd take a sick day
And rot at the core
And by the time he came back, she'd scrub the bathrooms
And make it smell like pine
It would be almost as if nothing had happened
And he'd give her time, oh, oh, and he'd give her time
Saying, oh
They build buildings, oh, they build buildings, oh
They build buildings, oh don't they build buildings, oh
They build buildings, oh, they build buildings, oh
They build buildings so tall these days
And she would ask for time
And she'd ask for time
She'd ask for time
She'd beg for time
And she would beg for time
And she'd beg for time
And call it a gift
And he would give her time
And he'd give her time
And he'd give her time
And he'd give her time
But time is not given and time is not taken
It just sifts through its sift
But time is not given and time is not taken
It just sifts through its sift
Oh, sifts through its sift
Sifts through its sift
Oh, sifts through its sift
Sifts through its sift
He was a husband, drove, time
Hope, time, car, oh, core
Core, sick day, core
coffee, core warning, last warning
Was a husband, time, pine scrub, scrub
Bathroom, lean, hair, back
Car window, hope, time, give, don't they
Build buildings tall these days
Read more: Regina Spektor - Buildings Lyrics | MetroLyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vanmmHQVysQ&index=23&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vanmmHQVysQ&index=23&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU
19 December 2014 17:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
sometimes..
(Shake it up)
I never loved nobody fully
Always one foot on the ground
And by protecting my heart truly
I got lost in the sounds
I hear in my mind
All these voices
I hear in my mind all these words
I hear in my mind all this music
And it breaks my heart
And it breaks my heart
And it breaks my heart
It breaks my heart
And suppose I never ever met you
Suppose we never fell in love
Suppose I never ever let you kiss me so sweet and so soft
Suppose I never ever saw you
Suppose we never ever called
Suppose I kept on singing love songs just to break my own fall
Just to break my fall
Just to break my fall
Break my fall
Break my fall
All my friends say that of course its gonna get better
Gonna get better
Better better better better
Better better better
I never love nobody fully
Always one foot on the ground
And by protecting by heart truly
I got lost
In the sounds
I hear in my mind
All these voices
I hear in my mind all these words
I hear in my mind
All this music
And it breaks my heart
It breaks my heart
I hear in my mind all of these voices
I hear in my mind all of these words
I hear in my mind all of this music
Breaks my
Heart
Breaks my heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wigqKfLWjvM&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=19
(Shake it up)
I never loved nobody fully
Always one foot on the ground
And by protecting my heart truly
I got lost in the sounds
I hear in my mind
All these voices
I hear in my mind all these words
I hear in my mind all this music
And it breaks my heart
And it breaks my heart
And it breaks my heart
It breaks my heart
And suppose I never ever met you
Suppose we never fell in love
Suppose I never ever let you kiss me so sweet and so soft
Suppose I never ever saw you
Suppose we never ever called
Suppose I kept on singing love songs just to break my own fall
Just to break my fall
Just to break my fall
Break my fall
Break my fall
All my friends say that of course its gonna get better
Gonna get better
Better better better better
Better better better
I never love nobody fully
Always one foot on the ground
And by protecting by heart truly
I got lost
In the sounds
I hear in my mind
All these voices
I hear in my mind all these words
I hear in my mind
All this music
And it breaks my heart
It breaks my heart
I hear in my mind all of these voices
I hear in my mind all of these words
I hear in my mind all of this music
Breaks my
Heart
Breaks my heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wigqKfLWjvM&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wigqKfLWjvM&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=19
19 December 2014 16:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
..waht if.. kui see millest muretsen..
Don't let me get out of this kiss
Don't let me say what I say
The things that scare us today
what if they happen someday
Don't let me out of your arms
For now
What if the sword kills the pen
What if the god kills the man
And if he does it with love
Well then it's death from above
And death from above is still a death
I don't want to live without you
I don't want to live without you
I don't want to live
I don't want to live
Without you
For those who still can recall
The desperate colors of fall
The sweet caresses of May
Only in poems remain
No one recites them these days
For the shame
So what if nothing is safe
So what if no one is saved
No matter how sweet
No matter how brave
What if each to his own lonely grave
I don't want to live without you
I don't want to live without you
I don't want to live
I don't want to live
Without you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSLDUqPLe4s&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=17
Don't let me get out of this kiss
Don't let me say what I say
The things that scare us today
what if they happen someday
Don't let me out of your arms
For now
What if the sword kills the pen
What if the god kills the man
And if he does it with love
Well then it's death from above
And death from above is still a death
I don't want to live without you
I don't want to live without you
I don't want to live
I don't want to live
Without you
For those who still can recall
The desperate colors of fall
The sweet caresses of May
Only in poems remain
No one recites them these days
For the shame
So what if nothing is safe
So what if no one is saved
No matter how sweet
No matter how brave
What if each to his own lonely grave
I don't want to live without you
I don't want to live without you
I don't want to live
I don't want to live
Without you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSLDUqPLe4s&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSLDUqPLe4s&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=17
19 December 2014 16:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
preppy serious one.. to.. poovime
The grave diggers getting stuck in the machine
Picking getting slim, slimmer
I hear them say my name
Regin-ah, regin-ah, regin-a-ah
Yes I'm putting the boulder to my ear
And I still can't hear
Whadya think I was an amateur
Playin' with my temperature...
If I hear another song about angels
If I see another feather on the dumb-box
I'm gonna go to Babylon and get me some whiskey
Gonna go to Babylon and get me some whiskey now...
If I hear another song about angels
If I see another feather on the dumb-box
I'm gonna go to Babylon and get me some whiskey
Oh get me some whiskey, get me some whisky, get me some whiskey now
My name is Lucille and I know how you feel
I live downstairs
I hear you taking out your garbage
I hear you loving your girlfriend
I hear you loving yourself too
I hear you flushing your toliet
I hear you turning your thoughts off
I turn mine off too
The only thing I hear is you
And you don't sound nice and you don't sound right
And you don't sound good and you don't sound right
My name is Lucille and I know how you feel
I live downstairs
I hear you taking out your garbage
I hear you loving your girlfriend
I hear you loving yourself too
I hear you turning your thoughts off
Oh, I hear you turning your thoughts off
And it get's quiet...
Pavlov's daughter woke up in the morning
Heard the bell ring
And something deep inside of her made her want to salivate
So she lay there drooling on her pillow
So she lay there, the sun skimming her skin,
And, and...drooling on her pillow
Pavlov's daughter
And it was far away and hazy like a dream
Not a dream, not a dream,
But the ocean, not the ocean,
But forever...
The grave diggers getting stuck in the machine
Picking getting slim, slimmer
I hear them say my name
Regin-ah, regin-ah, regin-a-ah
Yes I'm putting the boulder to my ear
And I still can't hear
Whadya think I was an amateur
Playin' with my temperature...
If I hear another song about angels
If I see another feather on the dumb-box
I'm gonna go to Babylon and get me some whiskey
Gonna go to Babylon and get me some whiskey now...
If I hear another song about angels
If I see another feather on the dumb-box
I'm gonna go to Babylon and get me some whiskey
Oh get me some whiskey, get me some whisky, get me some whiskey now
My name is Lucille and I know how you feel
I live downstairs
I hear you taking out your garbage
I hear you loving your girlfriend
I hear you loving yourself too
I hear you turning your thoughts off
I hear you turning your thoughts off
And I turn mine off too
The only thing I hear is you
And you don't sound nice and you don't sound right
And you don't sound good and you don't sound right
My name is Lucille and I know how you feel
I live downstairs
I hear you taking out your garbage
I hear you loving your girlfriend
I hear you loving yourself too
I hear you turning your thoughts off
I hear you turning your thoughts off
It get's quiet...
As quiet as an ambulance checking out the neighborhood,
Waiting for the blade to slip and that final blow,
But nothing happens, it's a cruel joke
As ironic as a ticker tape parade over the rain forest,
As ironic as a ticker tape parade over my head,
As ironic as a ticker tape parade over my head
Going down stream...
To where...it isn't... even... real...rain... at...all...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7mPppJYUwI&index=16&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&spfreload=1
The grave diggers getting stuck in the machine
Picking getting slim, slimmer
I hear them say my name
Regin-ah, regin-ah, regin-a-ah
Yes I'm putting the boulder to my ear
And I still can't hear
Whadya think I was an amateur
Playin' with my temperature...
If I hear another song about angels
If I see another feather on the dumb-box
I'm gonna go to Babylon and get me some whiskey
Gonna go to Babylon and get me some whiskey now...
If I hear another song about angels
If I see another feather on the dumb-box
I'm gonna go to Babylon and get me some whiskey
Oh get me some whiskey, get me some whisky, get me some whiskey now
My name is Lucille and I know how you feel
I live downstairs
I hear you taking out your garbage
I hear you loving your girlfriend
I hear you loving yourself too
I hear you flushing your toliet
I hear you turning your thoughts off
I turn mine off too
The only thing I hear is you
And you don't sound nice and you don't sound right
And you don't sound good and you don't sound right
My name is Lucille and I know how you feel
I live downstairs
I hear you taking out your garbage
I hear you loving your girlfriend
I hear you loving yourself too
I hear you turning your thoughts off
Oh, I hear you turning your thoughts off
And it get's quiet...
Pavlov's daughter woke up in the morning
Heard the bell ring
And something deep inside of her made her want to salivate
So she lay there drooling on her pillow
So she lay there, the sun skimming her skin,
And, and...drooling on her pillow
Pavlov's daughter
And it was far away and hazy like a dream
Not a dream, not a dream,
But the ocean, not the ocean,
But forever...
The grave diggers getting stuck in the machine
Picking getting slim, slimmer
I hear them say my name
Regin-ah, regin-ah, regin-a-ah
Yes I'm putting the boulder to my ear
And I still can't hear
Whadya think I was an amateur
Playin' with my temperature...
If I hear another song about angels
If I see another feather on the dumb-box
I'm gonna go to Babylon and get me some whiskey
Gonna go to Babylon and get me some whiskey now...
If I hear another song about angels
If I see another feather on the dumb-box
I'm gonna go to Babylon and get me some whiskey
Oh get me some whiskey, get me some whisky, get me some whiskey now
My name is Lucille and I know how you feel
I live downstairs
I hear you taking out your garbage
I hear you loving your girlfriend
I hear you loving yourself too
I hear you turning your thoughts off
I hear you turning your thoughts off
And I turn mine off too
The only thing I hear is you
And you don't sound nice and you don't sound right
And you don't sound good and you don't sound right
My name is Lucille and I know how you feel
I live downstairs
I hear you taking out your garbage
I hear you loving your girlfriend
I hear you loving yourself too
I hear you turning your thoughts off
I hear you turning your thoughts off
It get's quiet...
As quiet as an ambulance checking out the neighborhood,
Waiting for the blade to slip and that final blow,
But nothing happens, it's a cruel joke
As ironic as a ticker tape parade over the rain forest,
As ironic as a ticker tape parade over my head,
As ironic as a ticker tape parade over my head
Going down stream...
To where...it isn't... even... real...rain... at...all...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7mPppJYUwI&index=16&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&spfreload=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7mPppJYUwI&index=16&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&spfreload=1
19 December 2014 16:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
i have to go i have to go.. maybe true
.. i did eate the wonder bread..
and have some left some hair
oh.. and the bible..
.. i did eate the wonder bread..
and have some left some hair
oh.. and the bible..
19 December 2014 16:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
You are my sweetest downfall
I loved you first, I loved you first
Beneath the sheets of paper lies my truth
I have to go, I have to go
Your hair was long when we first met
Samson went back to bed
Not much hair left on his head
He ate a slice of wonder bread and went right back to bed
And history books forgot about us and the bible didn't mention us
And the bible didn't mention us, not even once
You are my sweetest downfall
I loved you first, I loved you first
Beneath the stars came fallin' on our heads
But they're just old light, they're just old light
Your hair was long when we first met
Samson came to my bed
Told me that my hair was red
Told me I was beautiful and came into my bed
Oh I cut his hair myself one night
A pair of dull scissors in the yellow light
And he told me that I'd done alright
And kissed me 'til the mornin' light, the mornin' light
And he kissed me 'til the mornin' light
Samson went back to bed
Not much hair left on his head
Ate a slice of wonderbread and went right back to bed
Oh, we couldn't bring the columns down
Yeah we couldn't destroy a single one
And history books forgot about us
And the bible didn't mention us, not even once
You are my sweetest downfall
I loved you first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p62rfWxs6a8&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=13
I loved you first, I loved you first
Beneath the sheets of paper lies my truth
I have to go, I have to go
Your hair was long when we first met
Samson went back to bed
Not much hair left on his head
He ate a slice of wonder bread and went right back to bed
And history books forgot about us and the bible didn't mention us
And the bible didn't mention us, not even once
You are my sweetest downfall
I loved you first, I loved you first
Beneath the stars came fallin' on our heads
But they're just old light, they're just old light
Your hair was long when we first met
Samson came to my bed
Told me that my hair was red
Told me I was beautiful and came into my bed
Oh I cut his hair myself one night
A pair of dull scissors in the yellow light
And he told me that I'd done alright
And kissed me 'til the mornin' light, the mornin' light
And he kissed me 'til the mornin' light
Samson went back to bed
Not much hair left on his head
Ate a slice of wonderbread and went right back to bed
Oh, we couldn't bring the columns down
Yeah we couldn't destroy a single one
And history books forgot about us
And the bible didn't mention us, not even once
You are my sweetest downfall
I loved you first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p62rfWxs6a8&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p62rfWxs6a8&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=13
19 December 2014 16:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
ja tähtedega lastest viimasest videost.. sujuvalt.. (nu cues here:p)
I had a dream
Crispy crispy Benjamin Franklin came over
Baby-sat all four of my kids
Then in my dream
I told the doctor off
He said if you don't want to do it
then you don't have to do it
He said the truth is
You'll be okay, anyway
Then in my dream
Crispy crispy Benjamin Franklin and the doctor
Went and had a talk with my boss
Something about insurance policies
They kept the door closed at all times
I couldn't hear or see
When they came out they said
You'll be okay, anyway
And I smiled cause I'd known it all the while.
No thank you no thank you no thank you no thank you
I ain't about to pay for this shit
I can afford chemo like I couldn't afford a limo
and on any given day I'd rather ride a limousine
No thank you no thank you no thank you no thank you
I ain't about to to die like this
I can afford chemo like I couldn't afford a limo
And besides this shit is making me tired
it's making me tired
it's making me tired
You know I plan to retire some day,
And I'm gonna go out in style
go out in style
This shit it's making me tired
it's making me tired
it's making me tired
But mama's gonna go out in style, go out in style
When I woke up
My kids were being quiet
I knew it was a dream right away
I called the limousine company
Then I got dressed
I dressed the kids as well
The limousine pulled in
And we piled in
The doctor he asked which way we were headed
I said, Sir, let's just go west and he listened obediently,
Sophie only wants to listen to radio BBC
Michael sat on my knees and whispered to me
All about the meanies
Jacqueline was being such a big girl
with her cup of tea looking out of the window
And Barbara
She looks just like my mom
Oh my Barbara
She looks so much like my mom
No thank you no thank you no thank you no thank you
I ain't about to pay for this shit
I can afford chemo like I couldn't afford a limo
and on any given day I'd rather ride a limousine
No thank you no thank you no thank you no thank you
I ain't about to die like this
I can afford chemo like I couldn't afford a limo
And besides this shit is making me tired
it's making me tired
it's making me tired
You know I plan to retire some day,
But mama's gonna go out in style
go out in style
This shit it's making me tired
it's making me tired
it's making me tired
But mama's gonna go out in style go out in style
Style.
Style.
Style.
Style.
Style.
Style.
Style.
Style.
I had a dream
Crispy crispy Benjamin Franklin came over and
Baby-sat all four of my kids
I had a dream
Crispy crispy Benjamin Franklin came over and
Baby-sat all four of my kids
Sophie only want to tune us into radio BBC
Michael sat on my knees and whispered to me
All about the meanies
Jacqueline was being such a big girl
with her cup of tea looking out of the window
And Barbara
She looks just like my mom
Oh my Barbara
She looks so much like my mom
Oh my God, Barbara
She looks so much just like my mom...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_NF0QcIn9I&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=12
I had a dream
Crispy crispy Benjamin Franklin came over
Baby-sat all four of my kids
Then in my dream
I told the doctor off
He said if you don't want to do it
then you don't have to do it
He said the truth is
You'll be okay, anyway
Then in my dream
Crispy crispy Benjamin Franklin and the doctor
Went and had a talk with my boss
Something about insurance policies
They kept the door closed at all times
I couldn't hear or see
When they came out they said
You'll be okay, anyway
And I smiled cause I'd known it all the while.
No thank you no thank you no thank you no thank you
I ain't about to pay for this shit
I can afford chemo like I couldn't afford a limo
and on any given day I'd rather ride a limousine
No thank you no thank you no thank you no thank you
I ain't about to to die like this
I can afford chemo like I couldn't afford a limo
And besides this shit is making me tired
it's making me tired
it's making me tired
You know I plan to retire some day,
And I'm gonna go out in style
go out in style
This shit it's making me tired
it's making me tired
it's making me tired
But mama's gonna go out in style, go out in style
When I woke up
My kids were being quiet
I knew it was a dream right away
I called the limousine company
Then I got dressed
I dressed the kids as well
The limousine pulled in
And we piled in
The doctor he asked which way we were headed
I said, Sir, let's just go west and he listened obediently,
Sophie only wants to listen to radio BBC
Michael sat on my knees and whispered to me
All about the meanies
Jacqueline was being such a big girl
with her cup of tea looking out of the window
And Barbara
She looks just like my mom
Oh my Barbara
She looks so much like my mom
No thank you no thank you no thank you no thank you
I ain't about to pay for this shit
I can afford chemo like I couldn't afford a limo
and on any given day I'd rather ride a limousine
No thank you no thank you no thank you no thank you
I ain't about to die like this
I can afford chemo like I couldn't afford a limo
And besides this shit is making me tired
it's making me tired
it's making me tired
You know I plan to retire some day,
But mama's gonna go out in style
go out in style
This shit it's making me tired
it's making me tired
it's making me tired
But mama's gonna go out in style go out in style
Style.
Style.
Style.
Style.
Style.
Style.
Style.
Style.
I had a dream
Crispy crispy Benjamin Franklin came over and
Baby-sat all four of my kids
I had a dream
Crispy crispy Benjamin Franklin came over and
Baby-sat all four of my kids
Sophie only want to tune us into radio BBC
Michael sat on my knees and whispered to me
All about the meanies
Jacqueline was being such a big girl
with her cup of tea looking out of the window
And Barbara
She looks just like my mom
Oh my Barbara
She looks so much like my mom
Oh my God, Barbara
She looks so much just like my mom...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_NF0QcIn9I&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_NF0QcIn9I&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=12
19 December 2014 16:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
This is how it works
It feels a little worse
Than when we drove our hearse
Right through that screaming crowd
While laughing up a storm
Until we were just bone
Until it got so warm
That none of us could sleep
And all the styrofoam
Began to melt away
We tried to find some worms
To aid in the decay
But none of them were home
Inside their catacomb
A million ancient bees
Began to sting our knees
While we were on our knees
Praying that disease
Would leave the ones we love
And never come again
On the radio
We heard November Rain
That solo's really long
But it's a pretty song
We listened to it twice
'Cause the DJ was asleep
This is how it works
You're young until you're not
You love until you don't
You try until you can't
You laugh until you cry
You cry until you laugh
And everyone must breathe
Until their dying breath
No, this is how it works
You peer inside yourself
You take the things you like
And try to love the things you took
And then you take that love you made
And stick it into some
Someone else's heart
Pumping someone else's blood
And walking arm in arm
You hope it don't get harmed
But even if it does
You'll just do it all again
And on the radio
You hear November Rain
That solo's awful long
But it's a good refrain
You listen to it twice
'Cause the DJ is asleep
On the radio
(oh oh oh)
On the radio
On the radio - uh oh
On the radio - uh oh
On the radio - uh oh
On the radio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHAhnJbGy9M&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=11
It feels a little worse
Than when we drove our hearse
Right through that screaming crowd
While laughing up a storm
Until we were just bone
Until it got so warm
That none of us could sleep
And all the styrofoam
Began to melt away
We tried to find some worms
To aid in the decay
But none of them were home
Inside their catacomb
A million ancient bees
Began to sting our knees
While we were on our knees
Praying that disease
Would leave the ones we love
And never come again
On the radio
We heard November Rain
That solo's really long
But it's a pretty song
We listened to it twice
'Cause the DJ was asleep
This is how it works
You're young until you're not
You love until you don't
You try until you can't
You laugh until you cry
You cry until you laugh
And everyone must breathe
Until their dying breath
No, this is how it works
You peer inside yourself
You take the things you like
And try to love the things you took
And then you take that love you made
And stick it into some
Someone else's heart
Pumping someone else's blood
And walking arm in arm
You hope it don't get harmed
But even if it does
You'll just do it all again
And on the radio
You hear November Rain
That solo's awful long
But it's a good refrain
You listen to it twice
'Cause the DJ is asleep
On the radio
(oh oh oh)
On the radio
On the radio - uh oh
On the radio - uh oh
On the radio - uh oh
On the radio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHAhnJbGy9M&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHAhnJbGy9M&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=11
19 December 2014 16:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I found a wallet, I found a wallet
Inside were pictures of your small family
You were so young, your hair dark brown
You had been born in 1953
Your winter birthday was stamped on the plastic
Of a license so recently expired
I was so tired as I walked through my door
I let all the contents of your wallet on the floor
And like a holy relic or a mystery novel
I thumbed them in the dim light
Searching for a clue, a Blockbuster card
An old stick of Juicy Fruit
A crumpled receipt from a pair of leather boots
I have no wallet, I have no walle
I keep my cards together with a blue rubber band
And with a free hand I search in my pocket
For pieces of, pieces of paper and change
I'll take your wallet to my local blockbuster
They'll find your number in their computer
You'll never know me, I'll never know you
But you will be so happy when they call you up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giqq_XHc7ck&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=10
Inside were pictures of your small family
You were so young, your hair dark brown
You had been born in 1953
Your winter birthday was stamped on the plastic
Of a license so recently expired
I was so tired as I walked through my door
I let all the contents of your wallet on the floor
And like a holy relic or a mystery novel
I thumbed them in the dim light
Searching for a clue, a Blockbuster card
An old stick of Juicy Fruit
A crumpled receipt from a pair of leather boots
I have no wallet, I have no walle
I keep my cards together with a blue rubber band
And with a free hand I search in my pocket
For pieces of, pieces of paper and change
I'll take your wallet to my local blockbuster
They'll find your number in their computer
You'll never know me, I'll never know you
But you will be so happy when they call you up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giqq_XHc7ck&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giqq_XHc7ck&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=10
19 December 2014 16:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
uuesti räämsate toonide peale
Come and open up your folding chair next to me
My feet are buried in the sand and there's a breeze
There's a shadow you can't see my eyes
And the sea is just a wetter version of the skies
Let's get a silver bullet trailer
And have a baby boy
I'll safety pin his clothes all cool
And you'll graffiti all his toys
I got a perfect body
But sometimes I forget
I got a perfect body
Cause my eyelashes catch my sweat
Oh
Oh
Now I've been sitting on this abandoned beach for years
Waiting for the salty water to cover up my ears
But every time the tide comes in to take me home
I get scared and I'm just sitting here alone
Dreaming of the dolphin song
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh
Oh Oh
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh
Maybe one day you will understand
That I want nothing from you
But to sweetly hold your hand
Til that day just please don't be so down
Don't make frowns
You silly clown
Just, come and open up your folding chair next to me
My feet are buried in the sand and there's a breeze
There's a shadow you can't see my eyes
And the sea is just a wetter version of the skies
There's a shadow you can't see my eyes
There's a shadow you can't see my eyes
Ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-eyes
Ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-eyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCvgXmg0m1g&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=9
Come and open up your folding chair next to me
My feet are buried in the sand and there's a breeze
There's a shadow you can't see my eyes
And the sea is just a wetter version of the skies
Let's get a silver bullet trailer
And have a baby boy
I'll safety pin his clothes all cool
And you'll graffiti all his toys
I got a perfect body
But sometimes I forget
I got a perfect body
Cause my eyelashes catch my sweat
Oh
Oh
Now I've been sitting on this abandoned beach for years
Waiting for the salty water to cover up my ears
But every time the tide comes in to take me home
I get scared and I'm just sitting here alone
Dreaming of the dolphin song
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh
Oh Oh
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh
Maybe one day you will understand
That I want nothing from you
But to sweetly hold your hand
Til that day just please don't be so down
Don't make frowns
You silly clown
Just, come and open up your folding chair next to me
My feet are buried in the sand and there's a breeze
There's a shadow you can't see my eyes
And the sea is just a wetter version of the skies
There's a shadow you can't see my eyes
There's a shadow you can't see my eyes
Ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-eyes
Ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey-eyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCvgXmg0m1g&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCvgXmg0m1g&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=9
19 December 2014 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
vahepala..
My rhyme ain't good just yet,
My brain and tongue just met,
And they ain't friends, so far,
My words don't travel far,
They tangle in my hair,
And tend to go nowhere,
They grow right back inside,
Right past my brain and eyes
Into my stomach juice
Where they don't serve much use,
No healthy calories,
Nutrition values.
And I absorb back in
The words right through my skin
They sit there festering inside my bowels
The consonants and vowels
The consequence of sounds
The consonants and vowels
The consequence of sounds
Got a soundtrack in my mind,
All the time. Kids-
Screamin' from too much beat up
And they don't even rhyme,
They just stand there, on a street corner,
Skin tucked in
And meat side out and shot,
And I'd like to turn them down
But there ain't no knob.
Run into picket fences
Not into picket lines.
All this hippie-shit for the 60's
And another clich© for our time. But,
But a one of these days your heart
Will just stop ticking,
And they sorta just don't find you till your cubicle is reeking.
The consonants and vowels
The consequence of sounds
The consonants and vowels
The consequence of sounds
Ahh ah ah ah ahh ah ah ah
Did you know that the gravedigger's still
Gettin' stuck in the machine
Even tough it's a whole other daydream.
It's another town it's another world,
Where the kids are asleep, where the loans are paid
And the lawns are mowed.
Whad'ya think?
All the gravediggers were gone?
Just cause one song is done
There's always another one,
Waiting right around the bend,
Till this one ends,
Then it begins
Squeaky clean, then it starts all over again.
The weather report keeps on
Tossing and turning,
Predicting and warning,
And warning and warning of,
Possible leakage from news publications and,
Possible leakage from news TV stations.
That very same morning right next to her coffee
She noticed some bleeding and heard hollow coughing and
National Geographic was being too graphic,
When all she had wanted to know was the traffic
"The worlds got a nosebleed" it said
"And we're flooding but we keep on cutting
The trees and the forests!"
And we keep on paying those freaks on the TV,
Who claim they will save us but want to enslave us.
And sweating like demons they scream through our speakers
But we leave the sound on 'cause silence is harder.
And no one's the killer and no one's the martyr
The world that has made us can no longer contain us
And profits are silent then rotting away 'cause
The consonants and vowels
The consequence of sounds.
The consonants and vowels
The consequence of sounds.
Ah ah ah...
My rhyme ain't good just yet,
My brain and tongue just met,
And they ain't friends, so far,
My words don't travel far,
They tangle in my hair,
And tend to go nowhere,
They grow right back inside,
Right past my brain and eyes
Into my stomach juice
Where they don't serve much use,
No healthy calories,
Nutrition values.
And I absorb back in
The words right through my skin
They sit there festering inside my bowels
The consonants and vowels
The consequence of sounds
The consonants and vowels
The consequence of sounds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L0bf2YKMDM&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=8
My rhyme ain't good just yet,
My brain and tongue just met,
And they ain't friends, so far,
My words don't travel far,
They tangle in my hair,
And tend to go nowhere,
They grow right back inside,
Right past my brain and eyes
Into my stomach juice
Where they don't serve much use,
No healthy calories,
Nutrition values.
And I absorb back in
The words right through my skin
They sit there festering inside my bowels
The consonants and vowels
The consequence of sounds
The consonants and vowels
The consequence of sounds
Got a soundtrack in my mind,
All the time. Kids-
Screamin' from too much beat up
And they don't even rhyme,
They just stand there, on a street corner,
Skin tucked in
And meat side out and shot,
And I'd like to turn them down
But there ain't no knob.
Run into picket fences
Not into picket lines.
All this hippie-shit for the 60's
And another clich© for our time. But,
But a one of these days your heart
Will just stop ticking,
And they sorta just don't find you till your cubicle is reeking.
The consonants and vowels
The consequence of sounds
The consonants and vowels
The consequence of sounds
Ahh ah ah ah ahh ah ah ah
Did you know that the gravedigger's still
Gettin' stuck in the machine
Even tough it's a whole other daydream.
It's another town it's another world,
Where the kids are asleep, where the loans are paid
And the lawns are mowed.
Whad'ya think?
All the gravediggers were gone?
Just cause one song is done
There's always another one,
Waiting right around the bend,
Till this one ends,
Then it begins
Squeaky clean, then it starts all over again.
The weather report keeps on
Tossing and turning,
Predicting and warning,
And warning and warning of,
Possible leakage from news publications and,
Possible leakage from news TV stations.
That very same morning right next to her coffee
She noticed some bleeding and heard hollow coughing and
National Geographic was being too graphic,
When all she had wanted to know was the traffic
"The worlds got a nosebleed" it said
"And we're flooding but we keep on cutting
The trees and the forests!"
And we keep on paying those freaks on the TV,
Who claim they will save us but want to enslave us.
And sweating like demons they scream through our speakers
But we leave the sound on 'cause silence is harder.
And no one's the killer and no one's the martyr
The world that has made us can no longer contain us
And profits are silent then rotting away 'cause
The consonants and vowels
The consequence of sounds.
The consonants and vowels
The consequence of sounds.
Ah ah ah...
My rhyme ain't good just yet,
My brain and tongue just met,
And they ain't friends, so far,
My words don't travel far,
They tangle in my hair,
And tend to go nowhere,
They grow right back inside,
Right past my brain and eyes
Into my stomach juice
Where they don't serve much use,
No healthy calories,
Nutrition values.
And I absorb back in
The words right through my skin
They sit there festering inside my bowels
The consonants and vowels
The consequence of sounds
The consonants and vowels
The consequence of sounds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L0bf2YKMDM&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L0bf2YKMDM&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=8
19 December 2014 16:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Some said the local lake had been enchanted
Others said it must have been the weather
The neighbors were trying to keep it quiet
But I swear that I could hear the laughter
So they jokingly nicknamed it the porridge
'Cause overnight that lake had turned as thick as butter
But the local kids would still go swimming, drinking
Saying that to them it doesn't matter
[Chorus:]
If you just hold in your breath
'Til you come back up in full
Hold in your breath
'Til you thought it through, you, fool
The genius next door was busting tables
Wiping clean the ketchup bottle labels
Getting high and mumbling German fables
Didn't care as long as he was able
To strip his clothes off by the dumpster
At night while everyone was sleeping
And wade midway into that porridge
Just him and his secret he was keeping
[Chorus:]
If you just hold in your breath
'Til you come back up in full
Hold in your breath
'Til you thought it through, you, foolish child
In the morning the film crews start arriving
With donuts, coffee and reporters
The kids are waking up hung over
The neighbors were starting up their cars
The garbage men were emptying the dumpsters
Atheists were praying full of sarcasm
And the genius next door was sleeping
Dreaming that the antidote is orgasm
[Chorus:]
If you just hold in your breath
'Til you come back up in full
Hold in your breath
'Til you thought it through, you, fool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCCVE87CD6o&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=7
Others said it must have been the weather
The neighbors were trying to keep it quiet
But I swear that I could hear the laughter
So they jokingly nicknamed it the porridge
'Cause overnight that lake had turned as thick as butter
But the local kids would still go swimming, drinking
Saying that to them it doesn't matter
[Chorus:]
If you just hold in your breath
'Til you come back up in full
Hold in your breath
'Til you thought it through, you, fool
The genius next door was busting tables
Wiping clean the ketchup bottle labels
Getting high and mumbling German fables
Didn't care as long as he was able
To strip his clothes off by the dumpster
At night while everyone was sleeping
And wade midway into that porridge
Just him and his secret he was keeping
[Chorus:]
If you just hold in your breath
'Til you come back up in full
Hold in your breath
'Til you thought it through, you, foolish child
In the morning the film crews start arriving
With donuts, coffee and reporters
The kids are waking up hung over
The neighbors were starting up their cars
The garbage men were emptying the dumpsters
Atheists were praying full of sarcasm
And the genius next door was sleeping
Dreaming that the antidote is orgasm
[Chorus:]
If you just hold in your breath
'Til you come back up in full
Hold in your breath
'Til you thought it through, you, fool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCCVE87CD6o&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCCVE87CD6o&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=7
19 December 2014 16:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
No one laughs at God in a hospital
No one laughs at God in a war
No one’s laughing at God
When they’re starving or freezing or so very poor
No one laughs at God
When the doctor calls after some routine tests
No one’s laughing at God
When it’s gotten real late
And their kid’s not back from the party yet
No one laughs at God
When their airplane start to uncontrollably shake
No one’s laughing at God
When they see the one they love, hand in hand with someone else
And they hope that they’re mistaken
No one laughs at God
When the cops knock on their door
And they say we got some bad news, sir
No one’s laughing at God
When there’s a famine or fire or flood
But God can be funny
At a cocktail party when listening to a good God-themed joke, or
Or when the crazies say He hates us
And they get so red in the head you think they’re ‘bout to choke
God can be funny,
When told he’ll give you money if you just pray the right way
And when presented like a genie who does magic like Houdini
Or grants wishes like Jiminy Cricket and Santa Claus
God can be so hilarious
Ha ha
Ha ha
No one laughs at God in a hospital
No one laughs at God in a war
No one’s laughing at God
When they’ve lost all they’ve got
And they don’t know what for
No one laughs at God on the day they realize
That the last sight they’ll ever see is a pair of hateful eyes
No one’s laughing at God when they’re saying their goodbyes
But God can be funny
At a cocktail party when listening to a good God-themed joke, or
Or when the crazies say He hates us
And they get so red in the head you think they’re ‘bout to choke
God can be funny,
When told he’ll give you money if you just pray the right way
And when presented like a genie who does magic like Houdini
Or grants wishes like Jiminy Cricket and Santa Claus
God can be so hilarious
No one laughs at God in a hospital
No one laughs at God in a war
No one laughs at God in a hospital
No one laughs at God in a war
No one laughing at God in hospital
No one’s laughing at God in a war
No one’s laughing at God when they’re starving or freezing or so very poor
No one’s laughing at God
No one’s laughing at God
No one’s laughing at God
We’re all laughing with God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pxRXP3w-sQ&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=6
No one laughs at God in a war
No one’s laughing at God
When they’re starving or freezing or so very poor
No one laughs at God
When the doctor calls after some routine tests
No one’s laughing at God
When it’s gotten real late
And their kid’s not back from the party yet
No one laughs at God
When their airplane start to uncontrollably shake
No one’s laughing at God
When they see the one they love, hand in hand with someone else
And they hope that they’re mistaken
No one laughs at God
When the cops knock on their door
And they say we got some bad news, sir
No one’s laughing at God
When there’s a famine or fire or flood
But God can be funny
At a cocktail party when listening to a good God-themed joke, or
Or when the crazies say He hates us
And they get so red in the head you think they’re ‘bout to choke
God can be funny,
When told he’ll give you money if you just pray the right way
And when presented like a genie who does magic like Houdini
Or grants wishes like Jiminy Cricket and Santa Claus
God can be so hilarious
Ha ha
Ha ha
No one laughs at God in a hospital
No one laughs at God in a war
No one’s laughing at God
When they’ve lost all they’ve got
And they don’t know what for
No one laughs at God on the day they realize
That the last sight they’ll ever see is a pair of hateful eyes
No one’s laughing at God when they’re saying their goodbyes
But God can be funny
At a cocktail party when listening to a good God-themed joke, or
Or when the crazies say He hates us
And they get so red in the head you think they’re ‘bout to choke
God can be funny,
When told he’ll give you money if you just pray the right way
And when presented like a genie who does magic like Houdini
Or grants wishes like Jiminy Cricket and Santa Claus
God can be so hilarious
No one laughs at God in a hospital
No one laughs at God in a war
No one laughs at God in a hospital
No one laughs at God in a war
No one laughing at God in hospital
No one’s laughing at God in a war
No one’s laughing at God when they’re starving or freezing or so very poor
No one’s laughing at God
No one’s laughing at God
No one’s laughing at God
We’re all laughing with God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pxRXP3w-sQ&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pxRXP3w-sQ&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=6
19 December 2014 16:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
About Karl from Ankit Sethi (about polish, jewish, projector..):
Hello? hello?
Calling a Karl Projektorinski
To the front of the cathedral
You have won, dear sir
May I congratulate you first?
Oh, what an honor
Notice the syntax. The first two lines echo the sort of announcement you might
imagine being made by a secretary or attendant at a humdrum public
office or event.
It is not Karl Projectorinski who is called but a
Karl Projectorinski. Nobody in charge knows who this guy is but his
named showed up on the right roll or list by chance and now they must
deal with him.
"-ski" is an adjectival suffix found in Polish
last names and means roughly "of the (place name)." The place name here
is instead 'Projector'; he is 'of the projector'. While explanations
elsewhere have used the idea of projection to mean he is some sort of
'projection' of society's flaws, I personally think a literal
explanation achieves a more satisfying understanding of who is. He is
the projector guy. Like the diligent unassuming chap who changes the
reels at the local theater. Who never tires, who always shows up in time
for his shift. In the background, silently ensuring you enjoy your
show.
The last name also sounds Jewish, providing a parallel idea
that reinforces his outsider status. Karl plays the movies but does not
watch them. He goes to a cathedral but does not worship there. (*)
Human! human of the year! you won!
Human! human of the year! you won!
This
feels like a send-up of annual awards like TIME's Person of the Year.
He's won for just being human. He did nothing extraordinary; he was
chosen because being human for so long deserves its own reward. More
precisely, he is being awarded to make a point.
Why are you so scared?
You stand there shaking by your pew
The icons are whispering to you
They're just old men
Like on the benches in the park
Except their balding spots
Are glistening with gold
Karl is afraid to accept the honor because he knows or intuits that a version of the Interesting number paradox
will come into play. Almost as evidence to confirm this, he is informed
that the past winners are a veritable gold-plated parthenon that
eagerly awaits his arrival.
Outside the cars are beeping
Out a song just in your honor
And though they do not know it
All mankind are now your brothers
And thus the cathedral had spoken
Wishing well to all us sinners
And with a psalm drew silent
Till next year's big human winner
The
first four lines may again be satirical, emphasizing how nothing really
changes or is affected by vacuous awards and titles. On a more personal
level, Karl is now doomed to take everyday occurrences more personally.
The
last four lines bring out the institutional tension in this story. If a
stunt is just a stunt, then a clever reactionary non-stunt is still
just a stunt. The people will be played out and the cathedral will close
till next year's edition. Even if the cathedral is genuine in its
intention to celebrate everyday humanism, the point still stands. Annual
spectacles are fine but it behooves the houses of the holy to engage in
less infrequent affirmations of humanity. And also, leave poor Karl
alone!
(*) - I'm also reminded of a bit from The Daily Show where
Jason Jones interviews stagehands working behind the scenes at the 2012
Republican National Convention. When asked about his support for
Romney, one man replied "This is just a gig, man."
Hello? hello?
Calling a Karl Projektorinski
To the front of the cathedral
You have won, dear sir
May I congratulate you first?
Oh, what an honor
Notice the syntax. The first two lines echo the sort of announcement you might
imagine being made by a secretary or attendant at a humdrum public
office or event.
It is not Karl Projectorinski who is called but a
Karl Projectorinski. Nobody in charge knows who this guy is but his
named showed up on the right roll or list by chance and now they must
deal with him.
"-ski" is an adjectival suffix found in Polish
last names and means roughly "of the (place name)." The place name here
is instead 'Projector'; he is 'of the projector'. While explanations
elsewhere have used the idea of projection to mean he is some sort of
'projection' of society's flaws, I personally think a literal
explanation achieves a more satisfying understanding of who is. He is
the projector guy. Like the diligent unassuming chap who changes the
reels at the local theater. Who never tires, who always shows up in time
for his shift. In the background, silently ensuring you enjoy your
show.
The last name also sounds Jewish, providing a parallel idea
that reinforces his outsider status. Karl plays the movies but does not
watch them. He goes to a cathedral but does not worship there. (*)
Human! human of the year! you won!
Human! human of the year! you won!
This
feels like a send-up of annual awards like TIME's Person of the Year.
He's won for just being human. He did nothing extraordinary; he was
chosen because being human for so long deserves its own reward. More
precisely, he is being awarded to make a point.
Why are you so scared?
You stand there shaking by your pew
The icons are whispering to you
They're just old men
Like on the benches in the park
Except their balding spots
Are glistening with gold
Karl is afraid to accept the honor because he knows or intuits that a version of the Interesting number paradox
will come into play. Almost as evidence to confirm this, he is informed
that the past winners are a veritable gold-plated parthenon that
eagerly awaits his arrival.
Outside the cars are beeping
Out a song just in your honor
And though they do not know it
All mankind are now your brothers
And thus the cathedral had spoken
Wishing well to all us sinners
And with a psalm drew silent
Till next year's big human winner
The
first four lines may again be satirical, emphasizing how nothing really
changes or is affected by vacuous awards and titles. On a more personal
level, Karl is now doomed to take everyday occurrences more personally.
The
last four lines bring out the institutional tension in this story. If a
stunt is just a stunt, then a clever reactionary non-stunt is still
just a stunt. The people will be played out and the cathedral will close
till next year's edition. Even if the cathedral is genuine in its
intention to celebrate everyday humanism, the point still stands. Annual
spectacles are fine but it behooves the houses of the holy to engage in
less infrequent affirmations of humanity. And also, leave poor Karl
alone!
(*) - I'm also reminded of a bit from The Daily Show where
Jason Jones interviews stagehands working behind the scenes at the 2012
Republican National Convention. When asked about his support for
Romney, one man replied "This is just a gig, man."
19 December 2014 16:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Hello, hello
Calling a Karl Projectorinski
To the front of the cathedral
You have won, dear sir
May I congratulate you first?
Human, human of the year
You won [x2]
Why are you so scared
You stand there shaking in your pew
The icons are whispering to you
They're just old men
Like on the benches on the park
Except their balding spots are glistening with gold
Human, human of the year
You won [x2]
You have won
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Outside the cars are beeping
Out a song
Just in your honor
And even though they do not know it
All mankind are now your brothers
And as the cathedral has spoken
Wishing well to all us sinners
And where the sight grew silent
Til next year's big human winner
Outside the cars are beeping
Out a song
Just in your honor
And even though they do not know it
All mankind are now your brothers
All mankind are now your brothers
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hello, hello
Calling a Karl Projectorinski
To the front of the cathedral
You have won
Calling a Karl Projectorinski
To the front of the cathedral
You have won, dear sir
May I congratulate you first?
Human, human of the year
You won [x2]
Why are you so scared
You stand there shaking in your pew
The icons are whispering to you
They're just old men
Like on the benches on the park
Except their balding spots are glistening with gold
Human, human of the year
You won [x2]
You have won
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Outside the cars are beeping
Out a song
Just in your honor
And even though they do not know it
All mankind are now your brothers
And as the cathedral has spoken
Wishing well to all us sinners
And where the sight grew silent
Til next year's big human winner
Outside the cars are beeping
Out a song
Just in your honor
And even though they do not know it
All mankind are now your brothers
All mankind are now your brothers
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hello, hello
Calling a Karl Projectorinski
To the front of the cathedral
You have won
19 December 2014 16:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Your stitches are all out
But your scars are healing wrong
And the helium balloon inside your room has come undone
And it's pushing up at the ceiling
And the flickering lights it cannot get beyond
Oh everyone takes turns
Now it's yours to play the part
And they're sitting all around you
Holding copies of your chart
And the misery in their eyes
Is synchronized and reflected into yours
Hold on
One more time with feeling
Try it again
Breathing's just a rhythm
Say it in your mind
Until you know that the words are right
This is, why we, fight
Do do do do do do-we-oo-we-oo-we-oo
Do do do do do do
Do do do do do dooooooooo
You thought by now you'd be
So much better than you are
You thought by now they'd see
That you had come so far
And the pride inside their eyes
Would synchronize into a love you've never know
So much more than you've been shown
Hold on
One more time with feeling
Try it again
Breathing's just a rhythm
Say it in your mind
Until you know that the words are right
This is, why we, fight
This is, why, we fight
Do do do do do do-we-oo-we-oo-we-oo
Do do do do do do
Do do do do do dooooooooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysuns_3Qweo&index=4&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU
But your scars are healing wrong
And the helium balloon inside your room has come undone
And it's pushing up at the ceiling
And the flickering lights it cannot get beyond
Oh everyone takes turns
Now it's yours to play the part
And they're sitting all around you
Holding copies of your chart
And the misery in their eyes
Is synchronized and reflected into yours
Hold on
One more time with feeling
Try it again
Breathing's just a rhythm
Say it in your mind
Until you know that the words are right
This is, why we, fight
Do do do do do do-we-oo-we-oo-we-oo
Do do do do do do
Do do do do do dooooooooo
You thought by now you'd be
So much better than you are
You thought by now they'd see
That you had come so far
And the pride inside their eyes
Would synchronize into a love you've never know
So much more than you've been shown
Hold on
One more time with feeling
Try it again
Breathing's just a rhythm
Say it in your mind
Until you know that the words are right
This is, why we, fight
This is, why, we fight
Do do do do do do-we-oo-we-oo-we-oo
Do do do do do do
Do do do do do dooooooooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysuns_3Qweo&index=4&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysuns_3Qweo&index=4&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU
19 December 2014 15:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Two birds on a wire
One tries to fly away
And the other
Watches him close
From that wire
He says he wants to as well
But he is a liar
I'll believe it all
There's nothing I won't understand
I'll believe it all
I won't let go of your hand
Two birds on a wire
One says come on
And the other says
I'm tired
The sky is overcast
And I'm silent
One more or one less
Nobody's worried
I'll believe it all
There's nothing I won't understand
I'll believe it all
I won't let go of your hand
Two birds of a feather
Say that they're always
Gonna stay together
But one's never goin' to
Let go of that wire
He says that he will
But he's just a liar
Two birds on a wire
One tries to fly away
And the other
Watches him close
From that wire
He says he wants to as well
But he is a liar
Two birds on a wire
One tries to fly away
And the other
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oGrwGCRImY&index=3&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU
One tries to fly away
And the other
Watches him close
From that wire
He says he wants to as well
But he is a liar
I'll believe it all
There's nothing I won't understand
I'll believe it all
I won't let go of your hand
Two birds on a wire
One says come on
And the other says
I'm tired
The sky is overcast
And I'm silent
One more or one less
Nobody's worried
I'll believe it all
There's nothing I won't understand
I'll believe it all
I won't let go of your hand
Two birds of a feather
Say that they're always
Gonna stay together
But one's never goin' to
Let go of that wire
He says that he will
But he's just a liar
Two birds on a wire
One tries to fly away
And the other
Watches him close
From that wire
He says he wants to as well
But he is a liar
Two birds on a wire
One tries to fly away
And the other
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oGrwGCRImY&index=3&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oGrwGCRImY&index=3&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU
19 December 2014 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
You went into the kitchen cupboard
Got yourself another hour
And you gave half of it to me
We sat there looking at the faces
Of the strangers in the pages
Until we knew them mathematically
They were in our minds
Until forever
But we didn't mind
We didn't know better
So we made our own computer
Out of macaroni pieces
And it did our thinking
While we lived our lives
It counted up our feelings
And divided them up even
And it called our calculation
Perfect love
Didn't even know
That love was bigger
Didn't even know
That love was so, so
Hey hey hey hey
Hey this fire, this fire
I'm burning us up
Hey this fire, this fire
I'm burning us up
Oh, oo oo oo, oo oo oo oo
So we made the hard decision
And we each made an incision
Past our muscles and our bones
Saw our hearts were little stones
Pulled 'em out they weren't beating
And we weren't even bleeding
As we lay them on our granite counter top
We beat 'em up against each other
We beat 'em up against each other
We struck 'em hard against each other
We struck 'em so hard, so hard 'til they sparked
Hey this fire, this fire
I'm burning us up
Hey this fire, this fire
I'm burning us up
Hey this fire, this fire
I'm burning us up
Oh, oo oo oo, oo oo oo oo
Oo oo oo oo oo oo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DLp-vE3AKg&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=2
Got yourself another hour
And you gave half of it to me
We sat there looking at the faces
Of the strangers in the pages
Until we knew them mathematically
They were in our minds
Until forever
But we didn't mind
We didn't know better
So we made our own computer
Out of macaroni pieces
And it did our thinking
While we lived our lives
It counted up our feelings
And divided them up even
And it called our calculation
Perfect love
Didn't even know
That love was bigger
Didn't even know
That love was so, so
Hey hey hey hey
Hey this fire, this fire
I'm burning us up
Hey this fire, this fire
I'm burning us up
Oh, oo oo oo, oo oo oo oo
So we made the hard decision
And we each made an incision
Past our muscles and our bones
Saw our hearts were little stones
Pulled 'em out they weren't beating
And we weren't even bleeding
As we lay them on our granite counter top
We beat 'em up against each other
We beat 'em up against each other
We struck 'em hard against each other
We struck 'em so hard, so hard 'til they sparked
Hey this fire, this fire
I'm burning us up
Hey this fire, this fire
I'm burning us up
Hey this fire, this fire
I'm burning us up
Oh, oo oo oo, oo oo oo oo
Oo oo oo oo oo oo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DLp-vE3AKg&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DLp-vE3AKg&list=RDthQd1KYCgKU&index=2
19 December 2014 15:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
In the absence of any objective medical tests to determine who has ADD or ADHD, doctors rely in part on standardized assessments and the
impressions of teachers and guardians while the they administer leave
little room for other causes or aggravating factors, such as diet, or
environment.
Hence, diagnosing a child or adolescent with ADD or ADHD is often the
outcome, although no organic basis for either disease has yet to be
clinically proven. Psychiatrists may then prescribe psychotropic drugs
for the children without first without making it clear to parents that
these medications can have severe side-effects including insomnia, loss
of appetite, headaches, psychotic symptoms and even potentially fatal
adverse reactions, such as cardiac arrhythmia.
And yet, despite these dangers, many school systems actually work
with government agencies to force parents to drug their children,
threatening those who refuse with the prospect of having their children
taken from the home unless they cooperate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26e5PqrCePk
impressions of teachers and guardians while the they administer leave
little room for other causes or aggravating factors, such as diet, or
environment.
Hence, diagnosing a child or adolescent with ADD or ADHD is often the
outcome, although no organic basis for either disease has yet to be
clinically proven. Psychiatrists may then prescribe psychotropic drugs
for the children without first without making it clear to parents that
these medications can have severe side-effects including insomnia, loss
of appetite, headaches, psychotic symptoms and even potentially fatal
adverse reactions, such as cardiac arrhythmia.
And yet, despite these dangers, many school systems actually work
with government agencies to force parents to drug their children,
threatening those who refuse with the prospect of having their children
taken from the home unless they cooperate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26e5PqrCePk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26e5PqrCePk
19 December 2014 02:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Children Aren't Small Adults
http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/ResourcesForYou/Consumers/ucm143565.htm
Most drugs prescribed for children have not been tested in children. Before
the Food and Drug Administration initiated a pediatric program,
only about 20 percent of drugs approved by the FDA were labeled for
pediatric use. By necessity, doctors have routinely given drugs to
children "off label," which means the drug has not been approved for use
in children based on the demonstration of safety and efficacy in
adequate, well-controlled clinical trials.
Recent
studies are providing important new information about drug safety and
effectiveness for children. Pediatricians say it's about time.
To
be well-controlled, a study should have an adequate number of patients
who receive the study drug and a control group--people who are
similar to the group taking the drug being studied, but who are
receiving some different type of treatment, such as another drug or an
inactive pill (placebo).
Experts say the historical lack of
pediatric drug testing is due to a combination of reasons. The primary
reason is that pharmaceutical companies generally have viewed children
as a market that would bring only small financial benefits. The drugs
that have been adequately studied in children--vaccines, some
antibiotics, and some cough and cold medicines--have a large market.
"It's
also harder to carry out studies in children," says Dianne Murphy,
M.D., director of the FDA's Office of Pediatric Therapeutics. "You need
child-friendly environments in every sense, from age-appropriate
equipment and medical techniques to pediatric specialists who are
sensitive to a child's fear."
Jeffrey Blumer, M.D., Ph.D., chief
of pediatric pharmacology at Case Western Reserve University in
Cleveland, says technical procedures that seem simple for adults, such
as drawing blood or getting a urine sample, can be difficult with
children.
The ethical issues are also stickier. For example,
while adults can give informed consent to participate in a clinical
trial, children can't because "consent" implies full understanding of
potential risks and other considerations. Parents are involved in the
decision to enroll children in a study, and children ages 7 or older can
"assent" or "dissent," meaning they can agree or disagree to
participate in a study.
Blumer says, "I've had parents who are
enthusiastic about a study and then a 7-year-old who hears everything
involved and says, ‘No way!'"
Children Aren't Small Adults
Rather
than avoiding pediatric research because of the challenges, experts say
it's more important to build the foundation and resources needed to
conduct the studies. Without them, children face significant risks.
In
the absence of data, doctors use their medical judgment to decide on a
particular drug and dose for children. "Some doctors stay away from
drugs, which could deny needed treatment," Blumer says. "Generally, we
take our best guess based on what's been done before."
A common
approach has been to use data from adults and adjust the dose according
to a child's weight. Experimenting over the years has taught doctors to
use many drugs in children safely and effectively. But this
trial-and-error approach has also resulted in tragedy, indicating that
adult experiences with a drug aren't always a reliable predictor of how
children will react.
For example, in the 1950s, the antibiotic
chloramphenicol was widely used in adults to treat infections resistant
to penicillin. But many newborn babies died after receiving the drug
because their immature livers couldn't break down the antibiotic.
"Experience
has shown us that we need to study drugs in children because they
aren't small adults," says Ralph Kauffman, M.D., director of medical
research at Children's Mercy Hospital in Kansas City, Mo. "It's not just
about smaller weight," he says. "There are dynamics of growth and
maturation of organs, changes in metabolism throughout infancy and
childhood, changes in body proportion, and other developmental changes
that affect how drugs are metabolized."
Proof Is in the Data
Fortunately,
recent legislative changes that provide both a voluntary and a
mandatory mechanism to conduct drug studies in children have resulted in
a dramatic increase in pediatric drug trials. "There have been more
studies conducted in children in the last five years than in the
previous 30 years combined," Kauffman says.
The information
coming out of those studies has added pediatric information to the drug
labeling for more than 80 drugs, and more changes are coming. Drug
labeling is the guidance to doctors and other health care providers on
how to use a drug. "We knew that we needed science to determine proper
dosing for children the same way we do with adults," says Murphy. "Now,
we have confirmed it."
Ibuprofen, one of the most common
over-the-counter drugs on which parents rely to reduce children's
fevers, carried no dosing information for children younger than 2 years
old until recently.
--
Okey.. rest of the long article you can see the battle of the battle of the battle they have ... instead of healing
http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/ResourcesForYou/Consumers/ucm143565.htm
Most drugs prescribed for children have not been tested in children. Before
the Food and Drug Administration initiated a pediatric program,
only about 20 percent of drugs approved by the FDA were labeled for
pediatric use. By necessity, doctors have routinely given drugs to
children "off label," which means the drug has not been approved for use
in children based on the demonstration of safety and efficacy in
adequate, well-controlled clinical trials.
Recent
studies are providing important new information about drug safety and
effectiveness for children. Pediatricians say it's about time.
To
be well-controlled, a study should have an adequate number of patients
who receive the study drug and a control group--people who are
similar to the group taking the drug being studied, but who are
receiving some different type of treatment, such as another drug or an
inactive pill (placebo).
Experts say the historical lack of
pediatric drug testing is due to a combination of reasons. The primary
reason is that pharmaceutical companies generally have viewed children
as a market that would bring only small financial benefits. The drugs
that have been adequately studied in children--vaccines, some
antibiotics, and some cough and cold medicines--have a large market.
"It's
also harder to carry out studies in children," says Dianne Murphy,
M.D., director of the FDA's Office of Pediatric Therapeutics. "You need
child-friendly environments in every sense, from age-appropriate
equipment and medical techniques to pediatric specialists who are
sensitive to a child's fear."
Jeffrey Blumer, M.D., Ph.D., chief
of pediatric pharmacology at Case Western Reserve University in
Cleveland, says technical procedures that seem simple for adults, such
as drawing blood or getting a urine sample, can be difficult with
children.
The ethical issues are also stickier. For example,
while adults can give informed consent to participate in a clinical
trial, children can't because "consent" implies full understanding of
potential risks and other considerations. Parents are involved in the
decision to enroll children in a study, and children ages 7 or older can
"assent" or "dissent," meaning they can agree or disagree to
participate in a study.
Blumer says, "I've had parents who are
enthusiastic about a study and then a 7-year-old who hears everything
involved and says, ‘No way!'"
Children Aren't Small Adults
Rather
than avoiding pediatric research because of the challenges, experts say
it's more important to build the foundation and resources needed to
conduct the studies. Without them, children face significant risks.
In
the absence of data, doctors use their medical judgment to decide on a
particular drug and dose for children. "Some doctors stay away from
drugs, which could deny needed treatment," Blumer says. "Generally, we
take our best guess based on what's been done before."
A common
approach has been to use data from adults and adjust the dose according
to a child's weight. Experimenting over the years has taught doctors to
use many drugs in children safely and effectively. But this
trial-and-error approach has also resulted in tragedy, indicating that
adult experiences with a drug aren't always a reliable predictor of how
children will react.
For example, in the 1950s, the antibiotic
chloramphenicol was widely used in adults to treat infections resistant
to penicillin. But many newborn babies died after receiving the drug
because their immature livers couldn't break down the antibiotic.
"Experience
has shown us that we need to study drugs in children because they
aren't small adults," says Ralph Kauffman, M.D., director of medical
research at Children's Mercy Hospital in Kansas City, Mo. "It's not just
about smaller weight," he says. "There are dynamics of growth and
maturation of organs, changes in metabolism throughout infancy and
childhood, changes in body proportion, and other developmental changes
that affect how drugs are metabolized."
Proof Is in the Data
Fortunately,
recent legislative changes that provide both a voluntary and a
mandatory mechanism to conduct drug studies in children have resulted in
a dramatic increase in pediatric drug trials. "There have been more
studies conducted in children in the last five years than in the
previous 30 years combined," Kauffman says.
The information
coming out of those studies has added pediatric information to the drug
labeling for more than 80 drugs, and more changes are coming. Drug
labeling is the guidance to doctors and other health care providers on
how to use a drug. "We knew that we needed science to determine proper
dosing for children the same way we do with adults," says Murphy. "Now,
we have confirmed it."
Ibuprofen, one of the most common
over-the-counter drugs on which parents rely to reduce children's
fevers, carried no dosing information for children younger than 2 years
old until recently.
--
Okey.. rest of the long article you can see the battle of the battle of the battle they have ... instead of healing
http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/ResourcesForYou/Consumers/ucm143565.htm
19 December 2014 02:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Social storytelling robots that offer personalised teaching are giving preschool children a boost with their language skills
The girl is part of an eight-week experiment by MIT’s Media Lab now taking place in a preschool in the Boston area. The idea is to see how
well children learn from robots – it is one of a handful of similar
experiments being run by graduate student Jacqueline Kory.
Kory and colleagues are testing children to see how well they
remember new words learned from robots over time. As the weeks go by,
BLUE, a fluffy robot with cartoon eyes, is telling a little girl a story about a snowman. The tale plays out in pictures on a tablet that
sits between the preschooler and Blue’s soft plastic feet. Blue’s eyes
look down at the characters as it describes them, then up at the child
to check that she’s paying attention.
The 5-year-old is one of the first children to learn language skills from a robot, and she is captivated.
Blue and other robots like it, dubbed DragonBots, will adapt their
stories as a child learns new words, keeping pace with individual
development. Kory and the team leader, Cynthia Breazeal, will be
logging everything and tracking how well they learn.
The team believe robots represent a powerful new way to enhance
children’s education. Unlike educational TV shows, say, the robots are
physically present and have some of the same social skills as humans.
That gives them the potential to tap into a child’s appetite for
one-to-one communication and help kids learn in many of the same ways a
human teacher does. This is especially important when it comes to
language skills.
Through experiments conducted earlier this year, Kory has already
shown that the robots’ social abilities make a huge difference to how
well children engage with what the robot says. In one experiment,
children talked to two different robots about toy animals. One robot’s
reactions and movements were programmed to be similar to a child’s own,
while the other’s were more random. Children seemed far more willing to
trust the robot that mimicked their body language, learning better from
it.
The team’s work is still in the early stages. When the robot prompts a
child to tell it a story, for example, the goal is for the bot to
listen and gauge how well their vocabulary is developing. But speech
recognition for pre-schoolers is still an emerging area, hampered by a
lack of data on which to train machine learning software.
Kory and Breazeal see a future where young children’s learning can be
supercharged by socially intelligent robots that fit smoothly into
their lives. Children already bond strongly with their stuffed animals,
for example, so what if those toys had the ability to talk back?
Previous work at the Media Lab has even used the DragonBots to teach
pre-schoolers little snippets of French, centred on role play where
robot and child share a meal together.
“I love the idea of delightfully designed, childlike robots scooting
around and befriending children. I think there’s a lot to say for this
kind of effort,” says Michael Levine, who directs research on
educational technology at the Sesame Workshop in New York, the
non-profit behind the popular children’s television show Sesame Street.
Levine says Breazeal’s robots overcome one of the fundamental
problems with developing educational content for television and tablets –
individualisation. Even when testing the most popular episode of a
kids’ TV show, there will be a child in the room who doesn’t like it.
Robots can pick up on social cues and offer a solution, letting a child
learn at their own pace, he says.
Breazeal has grand plans for the socially aware robots. “In the US
there’s a big issue with children entering kindergarten not ready to
learn. And if you don’t enter kindergarten ready, you never really catch
up,” she says. “There is a tremendous opportunity to develop new
technology to support children’s education, especially early childhood
learning.”
http://wordtrans.com/2014/05/kindergarten-bots-teach-language-to-tots/
The girl is part of an eight-week experiment by MIT’s Media Lab now taking place in a preschool in the Boston area. The idea is to see how
well children learn from robots – it is one of a handful of similar
experiments being run by graduate student Jacqueline Kory.
Kory and colleagues are testing children to see how well they
remember new words learned from robots over time. As the weeks go by,
BLUE, a fluffy robot with cartoon eyes, is telling a little girl a story about a snowman. The tale plays out in pictures on a tablet that
sits between the preschooler and Blue’s soft plastic feet. Blue’s eyes
look down at the characters as it describes them, then up at the child
to check that she’s paying attention.
The 5-year-old is one of the first children to learn language skills from a robot, and she is captivated.
Blue and other robots like it, dubbed DragonBots, will adapt their
stories as a child learns new words, keeping pace with individual
development. Kory and the team leader, Cynthia Breazeal, will be
logging everything and tracking how well they learn.
The team believe robots represent a powerful new way to enhance
children’s education. Unlike educational TV shows, say, the robots are
physically present and have some of the same social skills as humans.
That gives them the potential to tap into a child’s appetite for
one-to-one communication and help kids learn in many of the same ways a
human teacher does. This is especially important when it comes to
language skills.
Through experiments conducted earlier this year, Kory has already
shown that the robots’ social abilities make a huge difference to how
well children engage with what the robot says. In one experiment,
children talked to two different robots about toy animals. One robot’s
reactions and movements were programmed to be similar to a child’s own,
while the other’s were more random. Children seemed far more willing to
trust the robot that mimicked their body language, learning better from
it.
The team’s work is still in the early stages. When the robot prompts a
child to tell it a story, for example, the goal is for the bot to
listen and gauge how well their vocabulary is developing. But speech
recognition for pre-schoolers is still an emerging area, hampered by a
lack of data on which to train machine learning software.
Kory and Breazeal see a future where young children’s learning can be
supercharged by socially intelligent robots that fit smoothly into
their lives. Children already bond strongly with their stuffed animals,
for example, so what if those toys had the ability to talk back?
Previous work at the Media Lab has even used the DragonBots to teach
pre-schoolers little snippets of French, centred on role play where
robot and child share a meal together.
“I love the idea of delightfully designed, childlike robots scooting
around and befriending children. I think there’s a lot to say for this
kind of effort,” says Michael Levine, who directs research on
educational technology at the Sesame Workshop in New York, the
non-profit behind the popular children’s television show Sesame Street.
Levine says Breazeal’s robots overcome one of the fundamental
problems with developing educational content for television and tablets –
individualisation. Even when testing the most popular episode of a
kids’ TV show, there will be a child in the room who doesn’t like it.
Robots can pick up on social cues and offer a solution, letting a child
learn at their own pace, he says.
Breazeal has grand plans for the socially aware robots. “In the US
there’s a big issue with children entering kindergarten not ready to
learn. And if you don’t enter kindergarten ready, you never really catch
up,” she says. “There is a tremendous opportunity to develop new
technology to support children’s education, especially early childhood
learning.”
http://wordtrans.com/2014/05/kindergarten-bots-teach-language-to-tots/
http://wordtrans.com/2014/05/kindergarten-bots-teach-language-to-tots/
19 December 2014 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
At first, the term “hyperkinetic reaction of childhood,” was described and
agreed upon by the committee and confirmed by a small percentage of APA
(American Psychiatric Association) members as a mental disorder. Later, the term was altered to the current ADHD.
Yet, there is no biological proof or test to determine exactly what chemicals are “out of balance” in the brain for ADHD or any other disorder.
Most psychiatric drugs (psychotropics) are unnecessary at the very
least. And they often cause side effects with adverse reactions such as
depression-like feelings that could lead toward suicide or homicide.
An Epidemic of Pharmaceutical Drug Use is Harming Millions of Kids
There’s an important distinction between psychiatrists and
psychologists. Both can use “talk therapy”, but only MD licensed
psychiatrists can prescribe drugs. Even family MD doctors can prescribe
psychotropics based on behavioral reports and their copy of a current
DMS.
Since that DSM conference in 1968, Dr. Eisenberg’s contribution to
mental disease by invention and committee consensus has resulted in
drugging millions of children from preschool age through high
school. It’s currently estimated that at least 20% (one in five) of
children from nursery school and kindergarten through high school and in
foster homes have been prescribed Ritalin alone.
The drug Ritalin, commonly prescribed for kids “diagnosed” (labeled) with ADHD, was tested a little over a decade ago by the Brookhaven National Laboratory (BNL). The BNL study determined that Ritalin is pharmacologically similar to cocaine with perhaps even worse brain damaging potential.
Not shockingly, psychiatrists with pharmaceutical ties comprised at least 68% of the DSM-V committee. Big Pharma pays psychiatrists to deliver
seminars, act as consultants, or enroll their clients into final testing
of new drugs. Some receive up to $100,000. Big Pharma paid out $250
million for these and other professional services during the years 2009
and 2010. - See more at:
http://naturalsociety.com/big-pharma-psychiatry-collusion-every-disorder-labeled-will-provide-drug/#sthash.CK6bRpXR.dpuf
Dr. Irwin Savodnik of the UCLA School of Medicine stated succinctly, “The
very vocabulary of psychiatry is now defined at all levels by the
pharmaceutical industry.” - See more at:
http://naturalsociety.com/big-pharma-psychiatry-collusion-every-disorder-labeled-will-provide-drug/#sthash.CK6bRpXR.dpuf
- See more at:
http://naturalsociety.com/big-pharma-psychiatry-collusion-every-disorder-labeled-will-provide-drug
agreed upon by the committee and confirmed by a small percentage of APA
(American Psychiatric Association) members as a mental disorder. Later, the term was altered to the current ADHD.
Yet, there is no biological proof or test to determine exactly what chemicals are “out of balance” in the brain for ADHD or any other disorder.
Most psychiatric drugs (psychotropics) are unnecessary at the very
least. And they often cause side effects with adverse reactions such as
depression-like feelings that could lead toward suicide or homicide.
An Epidemic of Pharmaceutical Drug Use is Harming Millions of Kids
There’s an important distinction between psychiatrists and
psychologists. Both can use “talk therapy”, but only MD licensed
psychiatrists can prescribe drugs. Even family MD doctors can prescribe
psychotropics based on behavioral reports and their copy of a current
DMS.
Since that DSM conference in 1968, Dr. Eisenberg’s contribution to
mental disease by invention and committee consensus has resulted in
drugging millions of children from preschool age through high
school. It’s currently estimated that at least 20% (one in five) of
children from nursery school and kindergarten through high school and in
foster homes have been prescribed Ritalin alone.
The drug Ritalin, commonly prescribed for kids “diagnosed” (labeled) with ADHD, was tested a little over a decade ago by the Brookhaven National Laboratory (BNL). The BNL study determined that Ritalin is pharmacologically similar to cocaine with perhaps even worse brain damaging potential.
Not shockingly, psychiatrists with pharmaceutical ties comprised at least 68% of the DSM-V committee. Big Pharma pays psychiatrists to deliver
seminars, act as consultants, or enroll their clients into final testing
of new drugs. Some receive up to $100,000. Big Pharma paid out $250
million for these and other professional services during the years 2009
and 2010. - See more at:
http://naturalsociety.com/big-pharma-psychiatry-collusion-every-disorder-labeled-will-provide-drug/#sthash.CK6bRpXR.dpuf
Dr. Irwin Savodnik of the UCLA School of Medicine stated succinctly, “The
very vocabulary of psychiatry is now defined at all levels by the
pharmaceutical industry.” - See more at:
http://naturalsociety.com/big-pharma-psychiatry-collusion-every-disorder-labeled-will-provide-drug/#sthash.CK6bRpXR.dpuf
- See more at:
http://naturalsociety.com/big-pharma-psychiatry-collusion-every-disorder-labeled-will-provide-drug
http://naturalsociety.com/big-pharma-psychiatry-collusion-every-disorder-labeled-will-provide-drug/#sthash.CK6bRpXR.dpuf
19 December 2014 02:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"Testing new pharmaceutical products in children -A positive step, but ethical concerns remain"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1125018/
Alastair G Sutcliffe, senior lecturer in paediatrics
Ideally all medicines that could benefit children should be licensed for this
purpose. To date this has been the exception rather than the rule,
resulting in children becoming therapeutic orphans sometimes with tragic
consequences. Many medicines prescribed for children, whether in
hospital or primary care, are either unlicensed or off label (used for
an indication, age, dose, or route of administration outside the terms
of the product licence).1,2 Other problems surround the prescribing, dispensing, and administering of medicines to children.3 Many difficulties could be overcome if manufacturers were obliged to test their products on children as well as adults.
In the United States a “carrot and stick” approach has been adopted to achieve this end.4
The carrot is the “paediatric exclusivity provision,” which grants an
additional six months of patent protection or market exclusivity to
companies that voluntarily test the relevant drug on children. The stick
is the “paediatric rule,” a later requirement by the Food and Drug
Administration that companies test their products on children under
certain circumstances. These include the likelihood of (1) usage in a
substantial number of children, (2) meaningful therapeutic benefits, (3)
risk to children in the absence of labelling (licensing), (4) usage in
different paediatric age groups. Recently this rule has been challenged
successfully, principally on the grounds that the Food and Drug
Administration exceeded its authority in imposing these requirements on
drug companies, leaving uncertainty about how the increased testing of
medicines is to be achieved.5
Although including children in trials has benefits, technical, practical, and ethical problems remain.6
Technically it will be necessary to develop further non- or minimally
invasive techniques for pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic assessments.
Pharmacodynamic assessments are required to determine accurate dosage
even in clinical trials. This is especially important in children whose
metabolism of drugs and sensitivity of end organs to them vary
considerably with age and stage of development. Practical difficulties
arise from the small number of children with specific disorders, the
need to study different ages, the formulation of drugs, and problems of
recruitment.
Ethically, the obligation to act in a
child's best interests entails protecting children from both the
potential risks of research and the harms produced by the use of
inadequately tested drugs, as well as respecting their autonomy. To
satisfy these requirements drug trials should be scientifically and
socially valid, adequately powered, of favourable risk-benefit ratio,
subject to independent ethical review and informed consent, and
conducted to an appropriate standard.7
But inevitably, pharmaceutical studies carry risks of physical or
psychological harm that may be difficult to quantify. Acceptance of some
risk is necessary for therapeutic advances to occur, for example, in
the treatment of acute lymphoblastic leukaemia.8
Difficulties in recruitment may mean that studies lack the statistical
power to answer the questions they pose. In contrast large studies are
expensive and, if commercially sponsored, may tend to favour the drug
tested. Commercially funded research understandably includes drugs that
are likely to have high volume sales—for example, antibiotics—or high
unit costs, such as surfactant.8
Research ethics committees must assess all these factors but do need
sufficient expertise in paediatrics to do so safely and effectively.
Obtaining
adequately informed voluntary consent for participation in a drug trial
requires the children's assent or consent, commensurate with their
understanding and experience, with or without the permission or consent
of their parents.8
Imparting sufficient, comprehensible information to distressed parents
and ill children is difficult and leads to questions of their competence
to make decisions. Understanding of such terms as randomisation, trial,
and placebo may be imperfect.9
Parents may accept drug treatment as being the only hope for their
child irrespective of the risks entailed; they may feel obliged to
researchers and believe that refusal to enter a trial will compromise
their child's treatment.4 Doubt therefore exists whether truly informed consent is possible, especially in acute life threatening situations.
These
factors and issues raised by the Bristol and Alder Hey inquiries and
the Griffiths's report have created a climate in which the testing of
medicines in children poses difficulties. Overcoming them is essential
if children are to benefit from the development of safe effective drugs.
One possible solution would be to introduce legislation such as that in
the United States. But such legislation may not in itself lead to a
greater number of children being enrolled in drug trials or deal with
the difficulty in obtaining sufficiently informed consent. Moreover, the
exclusivity provision has been criticised as benefiting the interests
of companies rather than children.4
An alternative, but long term, strategy is the greater involvement of
children and their families in the planning and implementation of
research projects, which should have notable educational impact.10 This approach could both increase recruitment and satisfy the criteria for informed consent.
In
the meantime, those who prescribe for children should use drugs that
are licensed or accepted as offering the best possible prospect of
benefit by a responsible body of medical opinion. Equally they have a
duty of advocacy on behalf of children, supporting the therapeutic
orphans who, like fictional character Oliver Twist, are saying: “Please
sir, we want some more.”
Go to:
Footnotes
Competing interests: None declared.
Go to:
References
1. Turner S, Longwith A, Nunn AJ, Choonara I. Unlicensed and off-label drug use in paediatric wards: prospective study. BMJ. 1998;316:343–345. [PMC free article] [PubMed]2. McIntyre J, Conroy S, Avery A, Corns H, Choonara I. Unlicensed and off label prescribing of drugs in general practice. Arch Dis Child. 2000;83:498–501. [PMC free article] [PubMed]3. Sutcliffe AG. Prescribing medicines for children. BMJ. 1999;319:70–71. [PMC free article] [PubMed]4. Steinbock R. Testing medicines in children. N Engl J Med. 2002;317:s1462–s1470.5. Gottlieb S. Testing of drugs in children ruled unlawful by US judge. BMJ. 2002;325:920. [PMC free article] [PubMed]6. Lantos J. The inclusion benefit in clinical trials. J Pediatr. 1999;134:130–131. [PubMed]7. Royal
College of Paediatrics and Child Health; Ethics Advisory Committee.
Guidelines for the ethical conduct of medical research involving
children. Arch Dis Child. 2000;82:177–182. [PMC free article] [PubMed]8. Stephenson T. New medicines for children; who is protecting the rights of the child? Curr Paediatr. 2002;12:331–335.9. Snowdon C, Garcia J, Elbourne D. Reaction of participants to the results of a randomised controlled trial: exploratory study. BMJ. 1998;317:21–26. [PMC free article] [PubMed]10. Hart C, Chesson R. Children as consumers. BMJ. 1998;316:1600–1603. [PMC free article] [PubMed]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1125018/
Alastair G Sutcliffe, senior lecturer in paediatrics
Ideally all medicines that could benefit children should be licensed for this
purpose. To date this has been the exception rather than the rule,
resulting in children becoming therapeutic orphans sometimes with tragic
consequences. Many medicines prescribed for children, whether in
hospital or primary care, are either unlicensed or off label (used for
an indication, age, dose, or route of administration outside the terms
of the product licence).1,2 Other problems surround the prescribing, dispensing, and administering of medicines to children.3 Many difficulties could be overcome if manufacturers were obliged to test their products on children as well as adults.
In the United States a “carrot and stick” approach has been adopted to achieve this end.4
The carrot is the “paediatric exclusivity provision,” which grants an
additional six months of patent protection or market exclusivity to
companies that voluntarily test the relevant drug on children. The stick
is the “paediatric rule,” a later requirement by the Food and Drug
Administration that companies test their products on children under
certain circumstances. These include the likelihood of (1) usage in a
substantial number of children, (2) meaningful therapeutic benefits, (3)
risk to children in the absence of labelling (licensing), (4) usage in
different paediatric age groups. Recently this rule has been challenged
successfully, principally on the grounds that the Food and Drug
Administration exceeded its authority in imposing these requirements on
drug companies, leaving uncertainty about how the increased testing of
medicines is to be achieved.5
Although including children in trials has benefits, technical, practical, and ethical problems remain.6
Technically it will be necessary to develop further non- or minimally
invasive techniques for pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic assessments.
Pharmacodynamic assessments are required to determine accurate dosage
even in clinical trials. This is especially important in children whose
metabolism of drugs and sensitivity of end organs to them vary
considerably with age and stage of development. Practical difficulties
arise from the small number of children with specific disorders, the
need to study different ages, the formulation of drugs, and problems of
recruitment.
Ethically, the obligation to act in a
child's best interests entails protecting children from both the
potential risks of research and the harms produced by the use of
inadequately tested drugs, as well as respecting their autonomy. To
satisfy these requirements drug trials should be scientifically and
socially valid, adequately powered, of favourable risk-benefit ratio,
subject to independent ethical review and informed consent, and
conducted to an appropriate standard.7
But inevitably, pharmaceutical studies carry risks of physical or
psychological harm that may be difficult to quantify. Acceptance of some
risk is necessary for therapeutic advances to occur, for example, in
the treatment of acute lymphoblastic leukaemia.8
Difficulties in recruitment may mean that studies lack the statistical
power to answer the questions they pose. In contrast large studies are
expensive and, if commercially sponsored, may tend to favour the drug
tested. Commercially funded research understandably includes drugs that
are likely to have high volume sales—for example, antibiotics—or high
unit costs, such as surfactant.8
Research ethics committees must assess all these factors but do need
sufficient expertise in paediatrics to do so safely and effectively.
Obtaining
adequately informed voluntary consent for participation in a drug trial
requires the children's assent or consent, commensurate with their
understanding and experience, with or without the permission or consent
of their parents.8
Imparting sufficient, comprehensible information to distressed parents
and ill children is difficult and leads to questions of their competence
to make decisions. Understanding of such terms as randomisation, trial,
and placebo may be imperfect.9
Parents may accept drug treatment as being the only hope for their
child irrespective of the risks entailed; they may feel obliged to
researchers and believe that refusal to enter a trial will compromise
their child's treatment.4 Doubt therefore exists whether truly informed consent is possible, especially in acute life threatening situations.
These
factors and issues raised by the Bristol and Alder Hey inquiries and
the Griffiths's report have created a climate in which the testing of
medicines in children poses difficulties. Overcoming them is essential
if children are to benefit from the development of safe effective drugs.
One possible solution would be to introduce legislation such as that in
the United States. But such legislation may not in itself lead to a
greater number of children being enrolled in drug trials or deal with
the difficulty in obtaining sufficiently informed consent. Moreover, the
exclusivity provision has been criticised as benefiting the interests
of companies rather than children.4
An alternative, but long term, strategy is the greater involvement of
children and their families in the planning and implementation of
research projects, which should have notable educational impact.10 This approach could both increase recruitment and satisfy the criteria for informed consent.
In
the meantime, those who prescribe for children should use drugs that
are licensed or accepted as offering the best possible prospect of
benefit by a responsible body of medical opinion. Equally they have a
duty of advocacy on behalf of children, supporting the therapeutic
orphans who, like fictional character Oliver Twist, are saying: “Please
sir, we want some more.”
Go to:
Footnotes
Competing interests: None declared.
Go to:
References
1. Turner S, Longwith A, Nunn AJ, Choonara I. Unlicensed and off-label drug use in paediatric wards: prospective study. BMJ. 1998;316:343–345. [PMC free article] [PubMed]2. McIntyre J, Conroy S, Avery A, Corns H, Choonara I. Unlicensed and off label prescribing of drugs in general practice. Arch Dis Child. 2000;83:498–501. [PMC free article] [PubMed]3. Sutcliffe AG. Prescribing medicines for children. BMJ. 1999;319:70–71. [PMC free article] [PubMed]4. Steinbock R. Testing medicines in children. N Engl J Med. 2002;317:s1462–s1470.5. Gottlieb S. Testing of drugs in children ruled unlawful by US judge. BMJ. 2002;325:920. [PMC free article] [PubMed]6. Lantos J. The inclusion benefit in clinical trials. J Pediatr. 1999;134:130–131. [PubMed]7. Royal
College of Paediatrics and Child Health; Ethics Advisory Committee.
Guidelines for the ethical conduct of medical research involving
children. Arch Dis Child. 2000;82:177–182. [PMC free article] [PubMed]8. Stephenson T. New medicines for children; who is protecting the rights of the child? Curr Paediatr. 2002;12:331–335.9. Snowdon C, Garcia J, Elbourne D. Reaction of participants to the results of a randomised controlled trial: exploratory study. BMJ. 1998;317:21–26. [PMC free article] [PubMed]10. Hart C, Chesson R. Children as consumers. BMJ. 1998;316:1600–1603. [PMC free article] [PubMed]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1125018/
19 December 2014 02:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The United States government first collected information on mental disorders in 1840, when the national census listed two
generally accepted conditions: idiocy and insanity. A century later,
psychiatrists knew more. They had options when making diagnoses, and by
the 1940s difficult kids were classified as "hyperkinetic."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy
http://goo.gl/ORXv2Z (Psychic Children)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychokinesis
http://www.psychic-experiences.com/real-psychic-story.php?story=47 (COMMENTS)
Other terms would follow, like minimal brain dysfunction. In 1955, there came a pill doctors could prescribe for these children to temper
their hyperactivity and make them behave more like "normal" children. It
was a stimulant, so called because it heightened the brain's
utilization of dopamine, which can improve attention and concentration.
The active ingredient was a highly addictive compound called
methylphenidate. The drug was called Ritalin.
By 1987, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) had settled on a
more refined name for a disorder among children who exhibited the same
set of symptoms, including trouble concentrating and impulsive behavior:
attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder. ADHD. At the time, in
American schools, it was still considered unusual for a child to take
Ritalin. It was, frankly, considered weird.
Today, it has simply become a default method for dealing with a "difficult" child.
"We are pathologizing boyhood," says Ned Hallo-well, a psychiatrist
who has been diagnosed with ADHD himself and has cowritten two books
about it, Driven to Distraction and Delivered from Distraction.
"God bless the women's movement—we needed it—but what's happened is,
particularly in schools where most of the teachers are women, there's
been a general girlification of elementary school, where any kind of
disruptive behavior is sinful. What I call the 'moral diagnosis' gets
made: You're bad. Now go get a doctor and get on medication so you'll be good.
And that's a real perversion of what ought to happen. Most boys are
naturally more restless than most girls, and I would say that's good.
But schools want these little goody-goodies who sit still and do what
they're told—these robots—and that's just not who boys are."
---
Nearly one million children between the ages of six and twelve took part, making it the largest study of its kind ever. The researchers
found that "boys who were born in December"—typically the youngest
students in their class—"were 30 percent more likely to receive a
diagnosis of ADHD than boys born in January," who were a full year
older. And "boys were 41 percent more likely to be given a prescription
for a medication to treat ADHD if they were born in December than if
they were born in January."
These findings suggest, of course, that an errant diagnosis can sometimes result from a developmental period that a boy can grow out of.
Nearly one million children between the ages of six and twelve took part, making it the largest study of its kind ever. The researchers
found that "boys who were born in December"—typically the youngest
students in their class—"were 30 percent more likely to receive a
diagnosis of ADHD than boys born in January," who were a full year
older. And "boys were 41 percent more likely to be given a prescription
for a medication to treat ADHD if they were born in December than if
they were born in January." These findings suggest, of course, that an
errant diagnosis can sometimes result from a developmental period that a
boy can grow out of.
In a study of the years between 2003 and 2007, the years in which the policy was rolled out, the authors looked at children between ages eight
and thirteen. They found that among children in many low-income areas
ADHD diagnoses increased
—"a huge rise of 53 percent" in just four
years.
A cynical person might wonder whether the task forces who write the DSM are influenced by pharmaceutical companies, seeing that with each new
disorder they add and each new symptom they deem valid, more people can
get expensive prescriptions. ADHD drugs alone were a $10.4 billion
business in 2012, a 13 percent increase over the year before.
"Now, 'unrestricted' means that the pharmaceutical company cannot in-house analyze the data...but there's a wealth of social-psych
research that shows that when you are paid even small amounts—and
there's the potential for future payment—it affects your behavior. If I
get an unrestricted research grant from Pfizer for $500,000, and I'm
hoping to get a $2 million grant, at some level I'm going to be aware of
how I talk about the results."
Spending on direct-to-consumer drug advertising increased from $220 million in 1997 to more than $2.8 billion by 2002.
It's not that Frances believes ADHD is not a real and valid
diagnosis; he just believes that these days it's made so frequently it
has been rendered meaningless. "It's been watered down so much in the
way it's applied that it now includes many kids who are just
developmentally different or are immature," he says. "It's a disease
called childhood."
http://advice711.com/psychic_spiritual/telekinesis.html
http://www.ashtarcommandcrew.net/group/the-ashtar-paranormal-group/forum/topics/telekinetic-energy-is-natural-move-things-with-your-power?xg_source=activity
https://books.google.ee/books?id=GKLUOLsldkEC&pg=PA17&lpg=PA17&dq=PSYCHIC+KINETIC+ENERGY&source=bl&ots=fhYsfHp9G_&sig=zSdnR5OcnYTajRDfiW0jcs5YRAs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_2eTVMuFIcf5ywOaoYG4DQ&ved=0CI4BEOgBMBE#v=onepage&q=PSYCHIC%20KINETIC%20ENERGY&f=false
http://www.greekmedicine.net/b_p/Vital_Faculty.html
generally accepted conditions: idiocy and insanity. A century later,
psychiatrists knew more. They had options when making diagnoses, and by
the 1940s difficult kids were classified as "hyperkinetic."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy
http://goo.gl/ORXv2Z (Psychic Children)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychokinesis
http://www.psychic-experiences.com/real-psychic-story.php?story=47 (COMMENTS)
Other terms would follow, like minimal brain dysfunction. In 1955, there came a pill doctors could prescribe for these children to temper
their hyperactivity and make them behave more like "normal" children. It
was a stimulant, so called because it heightened the brain's
utilization of dopamine, which can improve attention and concentration.
The active ingredient was a highly addictive compound called
methylphenidate. The drug was called Ritalin.
By 1987, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) had settled on a
more refined name for a disorder among children who exhibited the same
set of symptoms, including trouble concentrating and impulsive behavior:
attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder. ADHD. At the time, in
American schools, it was still considered unusual for a child to take
Ritalin. It was, frankly, considered weird.
Today, it has simply become a default method for dealing with a "difficult" child.
"We are pathologizing boyhood," says Ned Hallo-well, a psychiatrist
who has been diagnosed with ADHD himself and has cowritten two books
about it, Driven to Distraction and Delivered from Distraction.
"God bless the women's movement—we needed it—but what's happened is,
particularly in schools where most of the teachers are women, there's
been a general girlification of elementary school, where any kind of
disruptive behavior is sinful. What I call the 'moral diagnosis' gets
made: You're bad. Now go get a doctor and get on medication so you'll be good.
And that's a real perversion of what ought to happen. Most boys are
naturally more restless than most girls, and I would say that's good.
But schools want these little goody-goodies who sit still and do what
they're told—these robots—and that's just not who boys are."
---
Nearly one million children between the ages of six and twelve took part, making it the largest study of its kind ever. The researchers
found that "boys who were born in December"—typically the youngest
students in their class—"were 30 percent more likely to receive a
diagnosis of ADHD than boys born in January," who were a full year
older. And "boys were 41 percent more likely to be given a prescription
for a medication to treat ADHD if they were born in December than if
they were born in January."
These findings suggest, of course, that an errant diagnosis can sometimes result from a developmental period that a boy can grow out of.
Nearly one million children between the ages of six and twelve took part, making it the largest study of its kind ever. The researchers
found that "boys who were born in December"—typically the youngest
students in their class—"were 30 percent more likely to receive a
diagnosis of ADHD than boys born in January," who were a full year
older. And "boys were 41 percent more likely to be given a prescription
for a medication to treat ADHD if they were born in December than if
they were born in January." These findings suggest, of course, that an
errant diagnosis can sometimes result from a developmental period that a
boy can grow out of.
In a study of the years between 2003 and 2007, the years in which the policy was rolled out, the authors looked at children between ages eight
and thirteen. They found that among children in many low-income areas
ADHD diagnoses increased
—"a huge rise of 53 percent" in just four
years.
A cynical person might wonder whether the task forces who write the DSM are influenced by pharmaceutical companies, seeing that with each new
disorder they add and each new symptom they deem valid, more people can
get expensive prescriptions. ADHD drugs alone were a $10.4 billion
business in 2012, a 13 percent increase over the year before.
"Now, 'unrestricted' means that the pharmaceutical company cannot in-house analyze the data...but there's a wealth of social-psych
research that shows that when you are paid even small amounts—and
there's the potential for future payment—it affects your behavior. If I
get an unrestricted research grant from Pfizer for $500,000, and I'm
hoping to get a $2 million grant, at some level I'm going to be aware of
how I talk about the results."
Spending on direct-to-consumer drug advertising increased from $220 million in 1997 to more than $2.8 billion by 2002.
It's not that Frances believes ADHD is not a real and valid
diagnosis; he just believes that these days it's made so frequently it
has been rendered meaningless. "It's been watered down so much in the
way it's applied that it now includes many kids who are just
developmentally different or are immature," he says. "It's a disease
called childhood."
http://advice711.com/psychic_spiritual/telekinesis.html
http://www.ashtarcommandcrew.net/group/the-ashtar-paranormal-group/forum/topics/telekinetic-energy-is-natural-move-things-with-your-power?xg_source=activity
https://books.google.ee/books?id=GKLUOLsldkEC&pg=PA17&lpg=PA17&dq=PSYCHIC+KINETIC+ENERGY&source=bl&ots=fhYsfHp9G_&sig=zSdnR5OcnYTajRDfiW0jcs5YRAs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_2eTVMuFIcf5ywOaoYG4DQ&ved=0CI4BEOgBMBE#v=onepage&q=PSYCHIC%20KINETIC%20ENERGY&f=false
http://www.greekmedicine.net/b_p/Vital_Faculty.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy
19 December 2014 02:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(read full article fro mwebsite, it is way longer)
By the time they reach high school, nearly 20 percent of all American boys will be diagnosed with ADHD. Millions of those boys will
be prescribed a powerful stimulant to "normalize" them.
A great many of
those boys will suffer serious side effects from those drugs. The
shocking truth is that many of those diagnoses are wrong, and that most
of those boys are being drugged for no good reason—simply for being
boys. It's time we recognize this as a crisis.
If you have a son who has been diagnosed, it's more than likely that he has been prescribed a stimulant—the most famous brand names are
Ritalin and Adderall; newer ones include Vyvanse and Concerta—to deal with the symptoms of that psychiatric condition.
The Drug Enforcement Administration classifies stimulants as Schedule
II drugs, defined as having a "high potential for abuse" and "with use
potentially leading to severe psychological or physical dependence."
(According to a University of Michigan study, Adderall is the most
abused brand-name drug among high school seniors.) In addition to
stimulants like Ritalin, Adderall, Vyvanse, and Concerta, Schedule II
drugs include cocaine, methamphetamine, Demerol, and OxyContin.
According to manufacturers of ADHD stimulants, they are associated with sudden death in children who have heart problems, whether those heart
problems have been previously detected or not. They can bring on a
bipolar condition in a child who didn't exhibit any symptoms of such a
disorder before taking stimulants. They are associated with "new or
worse aggressive behavior or hostility." They can cause "new psychotic
symptoms (such as hearing voices and believing things that are not true)
or new manic symptoms." They commonly cause noticeable weight loss and
trouble sleeping. In some children, some stimulants can cause the
paranoid feeling that bugs are crawling on them. Facial tics. They can
cause children's eyes to glaze over, their spirits to dampen.
1997 and found that about 3 percent of American schoolchildren had received the diagnosis, a number that seemed roughly in line with past
estimates. But after that year, the number of diagnosed cases began to
increase by at least 3 percent every year.
Given today's prevailing pharmaceutical culture, clinicians who believe that drugs should never be used to treat ADHD in children are very much
in the minority. Marketing is powerful, and blockbuster drugs like
Ritalin are big business. Business booms, market share grows when
scripts are written, and countercultural doctors and therapists who
advocate caution and who believe that diagnoses are made too
easily—doctors and therapists who preach alternatives to drugs—are
finding themselves the butt of jokes.
http://www.esquire.com/features/drugging-of-the-american-boy-0414
By the time they reach high school, nearly 20 percent of all American boys will be diagnosed with ADHD. Millions of those boys will
be prescribed a powerful stimulant to "normalize" them.
A great many of
those boys will suffer serious side effects from those drugs. The
shocking truth is that many of those diagnoses are wrong, and that most
of those boys are being drugged for no good reason—simply for being
boys. It's time we recognize this as a crisis.
If you have a son who has been diagnosed, it's more than likely that he has been prescribed a stimulant—the most famous brand names are
Ritalin and Adderall; newer ones include Vyvanse and Concerta—to deal with the symptoms of that psychiatric condition.
The Drug Enforcement Administration classifies stimulants as Schedule
II drugs, defined as having a "high potential for abuse" and "with use
potentially leading to severe psychological or physical dependence."
(According to a University of Michigan study, Adderall is the most
abused brand-name drug among high school seniors.) In addition to
stimulants like Ritalin, Adderall, Vyvanse, and Concerta, Schedule II
drugs include cocaine, methamphetamine, Demerol, and OxyContin.
According to manufacturers of ADHD stimulants, they are associated with sudden death in children who have heart problems, whether those heart
problems have been previously detected or not. They can bring on a
bipolar condition in a child who didn't exhibit any symptoms of such a
disorder before taking stimulants. They are associated with "new or
worse aggressive behavior or hostility." They can cause "new psychotic
symptoms (such as hearing voices and believing things that are not true)
or new manic symptoms." They commonly cause noticeable weight loss and
trouble sleeping. In some children, some stimulants can cause the
paranoid feeling that bugs are crawling on them. Facial tics. They can
cause children's eyes to glaze over, their spirits to dampen.
1997 and found that about 3 percent of American schoolchildren had received the diagnosis, a number that seemed roughly in line with past
estimates. But after that year, the number of diagnosed cases began to
increase by at least 3 percent every year.
Given today's prevailing pharmaceutical culture, clinicians who believe that drugs should never be used to treat ADHD in children are very much
in the minority. Marketing is powerful, and blockbuster drugs like
Ritalin are big business. Business booms, market share grows when
scripts are written, and countercultural doctors and therapists who
advocate caution and who believe that diagnoses are made too
easily—doctors and therapists who preach alternatives to drugs—are
finding themselves the butt of jokes.
http://www.esquire.com/features/drugging-of-the-american-boy-0414
http://www.esquire.com/features/drugging-of-the-american-boy-0414
19 December 2014 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
" China has launched “blanket” drug testing for as many as 170 million children after it emerged that hundreds of kindergarten pupils were being secretly drugged by their teachers.
Over the past two weeks, three primary schools in two provinces were found to
be secretly feeding their students a prescription drug to try to prevent
them from getting sick.
The kindergartens are paid only for the days that pupils attend and wanted to maximise their earnings.
As parents across the country reacted furiously, the government promised a “thorough, one-by-one” inspection of every kindergarten, primary school and middle school in China.
“The focus is to investigate whether kindergartens are illegally organising the medication of groups of infants,” the government said, promising to report back by April 15 and severely punish any transgressors.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10708542/China-launches-blanket-drug-testing-for-children.html
if we would know some of the medicines and reasons why.. we would be probabaly even more furious..
Over the past two weeks, three primary schools in two provinces were found to
be secretly feeding their students a prescription drug to try to prevent
them from getting sick.
The kindergartens are paid only for the days that pupils attend and wanted to maximise their earnings.
As parents across the country reacted furiously, the government promised a “thorough, one-by-one” inspection of every kindergarten, primary school and middle school in China.
“The focus is to investigate whether kindergartens are illegally organising the medication of groups of infants,” the government said, promising to report back by April 15 and severely punish any transgressors.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10708542/China-launches-blanket-drug-testing-for-children.html
if we would know some of the medicines and reasons why.. we would be probabaly even more furious..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10708542/China-launches-blanket-drug-testing-for-children.html
19 December 2014 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
maybe
18 December 2014 02:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
So basically Women are Hebrew minded and man Greek
.. in that sense the Estonians are also more of the Hebrew and West of the Greek... draft: goo.gl/faU1wz
.. in that sense the Estonians are also more of the Hebrew and West of the Greek... draft: goo.gl/faU1wz
http://goo.gl/faU1wz
18 December 2014 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Just when am thought to make up word in my head "Womenism" then noticed it is around internet already, well, natural : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrCxOMXGR1A&list=PLYR7hQXuVoEFOqxeEdBnIjRh3HNspZkMh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrCxOMXGR1A&list=PLYR7hQXuVoEFOqxeEdBnIjRh3HNspZkMh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrCxOMXGR1A&list=PLYR7hQXuVoEFOqxeEdBnIjRh3HNspZkMh
18 December 2014 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
was mark and engels in happy relationship?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankh (but greeks had to chnage it to ♀.. "the most established view is that the male and female symbols "are derived from contractions in Greek script of the Greek names of these
planets, namely Thouros (Mars) and Phosphoros (Venus). These derivations
have been traced by Renkama
who illustrated how Greek letters can be transformed into the graphic
male and female symbols still recognised today." Thouros was abbreviated
by θρ, and Phosphoros by Φκ, which were contracted into the modern
symbols.")
---
The origin of the symbol remains a mystery to Egyptologists, and no single hypothesis has been widely accepted. One of the earliest suggestions is that of Thomas Inman, first published in 1869:
It is by Egyptologists called the symbol of life. It is also called the "handled cross", or crux ansata.
It represents the male triad and the female unit, under a decent form.
There are few symbols more commonly met with in Egyptian art. In some
sculptures, where the sun's rays are represented as terminating in
hands, the offerings which these bring are many a crux ansata, emblematic of the truth that a fruitful union is a gift from the deity
---
also known as key of life, the key of the Nile or crux ansata (Latin meaning "cross with a handle"), was the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic character that read "life", a triliteral sign for the consonants ꜥ-n-ḫ.
From the Canaanite pictograph, the letter morphed into the Phoenician /ketav Ivri , to the Greek letter Omicron, which eventually became the Latin letter "O."
The Life-Women in old writing:
Ayn + Nun + Kaf?
eye (spring) + snake (fish) + palm (potential, actual, )
In Jewish Mysticism, the two letters of the word “kaf” are the initial letters of the two Hebrew words: koach (“potential”) and poel (“actual”), suggesting that Kaf enables the latent power of the spiritual (the potential) to be made actual in the physical
---
The Meaning of Ayin
The word Ayin means "eye," "to see," and by extension, to understand and obey (see Jer. 5:21, Isa. 6:10, Matt. 13:15, etc.). Ayin further represents the primeval light, that is, the spiritual light of God mentioned in Gen. 1:3 (in distinction to celestial lights mentioned in Gen. 1:14-18).
According to Jewish midrash, this divine light is far greater than the
light that emanates from the sun and stars. Though concealed in the
Torah, the spiritual eye can behold the presence of this radiance, but
only by means of inner eye given by the Ruach HaKodesh.
Allegories of Ayin
Ayin
is sometimes described as having two eyes that connect to a common
"optic nerve" that leads to the brain. The two eyes represent choice or
the actions of the will (i.e., the heart). We can choose whether to use
the good eye or....
...Ayin (like the letter Aleph) is a silent letter. It is said that Ayin "sees" but does not speak, and therefore represents the attitude of
humility (or anavah). Anavah begins with an Ayin, as does the word for service (avodah) and yoke (ol). On the other hand...
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Aleph-Bet/Ayin/ayin.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankh (but greeks had to chnage it to ♀.. "the most established view is that the male and female symbols "are derived from contractions in Greek script of the Greek names of these
planets, namely Thouros (Mars) and Phosphoros (Venus). These derivations
have been traced by Renkama
who illustrated how Greek letters can be transformed into the graphic
male and female symbols still recognised today." Thouros was abbreviated
by θρ, and Phosphoros by Φκ, which were contracted into the modern
symbols.")
---
The origin of the symbol remains a mystery to Egyptologists, and no single hypothesis has been widely accepted. One of the earliest suggestions is that of Thomas Inman, first published in 1869:
It is by Egyptologists called the symbol of life. It is also called the "handled cross", or crux ansata.
It represents the male triad and the female unit, under a decent form.
There are few symbols more commonly met with in Egyptian art. In some
sculptures, where the sun's rays are represented as terminating in
hands, the offerings which these bring are many a crux ansata, emblematic of the truth that a fruitful union is a gift from the deity
---
also known as key of life, the key of the Nile or crux ansata (Latin meaning "cross with a handle"), was the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic character that read "life", a triliteral sign for the consonants ꜥ-n-ḫ.
From the Canaanite pictograph, the letter morphed into the Phoenician /ketav Ivri , to the Greek letter Omicron, which eventually became the Latin letter "O."
The Life-Women in old writing:
Ayn + Nun + Kaf?
eye (spring) + snake (fish) + palm (potential, actual, )
In Jewish Mysticism, the two letters of the word “kaf” are the initial letters of the two Hebrew words: koach (“potential”) and poel (“actual”), suggesting that Kaf enables the latent power of the spiritual (the potential) to be made actual in the physical
---
The Meaning of Ayin
The word Ayin means "eye," "to see," and by extension, to understand and obey (see Jer. 5:21, Isa. 6:10, Matt. 13:15, etc.). Ayin further represents the primeval light, that is, the spiritual light of God mentioned in Gen. 1:3 (in distinction to celestial lights mentioned in Gen. 1:14-18).
According to Jewish midrash, this divine light is far greater than the
light that emanates from the sun and stars. Though concealed in the
Torah, the spiritual eye can behold the presence of this radiance, but
only by means of inner eye given by the Ruach HaKodesh.
Allegories of Ayin
Ayin
is sometimes described as having two eyes that connect to a common
"optic nerve" that leads to the brain. The two eyes represent choice or
the actions of the will (i.e., the heart). We can choose whether to use
the good eye or....
...Ayin (like the letter Aleph) is a silent letter. It is said that Ayin "sees" but does not speak, and therefore represents the attitude of
humility (or anavah). Anavah begins with an Ayin, as does the word for service (avodah) and yoke (ol). On the other hand...
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Aleph-Bet/Ayin/ayin.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankh
18 December 2014 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
This chapter examines the performance characteristics of both asynchronous and synchronous parallel particle swarm optimisation
algorithms in heterogeneous, fault-prone environments. The chapter
starts with a simple parallelisation paradigm, the Master-Slave model
using Multi-Objective Particle Swarm Optimisation (MOPSO) in a
heterogeneous environment. Extending the investigation to general,
distributed environments, algorithm convergence is measured as a
function of both iterations completed and time elapsed. Asynchronous
particle updates are shown to perform comparably to synchronous updates
in fault-free environments. When faults are introduced, the synchronous
update method is shown to suffer significant performance drops,
suggesting that at least partly asynchronous algorithms should be used
in real-world environments. Finally, the issue of how to utilise newly
available nodes, as well as the loss of existing nodes, is considered
and two methods of generating new particles during algorithm execution
are investigated. Yes Yes Minister
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/42622112_Asynchronous_Multi-objective_Optimisation_in_Unreliable_Distributed_Environments
algorithms in heterogeneous, fault-prone environments. The chapter
starts with a simple parallelisation paradigm, the Master-Slave model
using Multi-Objective Particle Swarm Optimisation (MOPSO) in a
heterogeneous environment. Extending the investigation to general,
distributed environments, algorithm convergence is measured as a
function of both iterations completed and time elapsed. Asynchronous
particle updates are shown to perform comparably to synchronous updates
in fault-free environments. When faults are introduced, the synchronous
update method is shown to suffer significant performance drops,
suggesting that at least partly asynchronous algorithms should be used
in real-world environments. Finally, the issue of how to utilise newly
available nodes, as well as the loss of existing nodes, is considered
and two methods of generating new particles during algorithm execution
are investigated. Yes Yes Minister
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/42622112_Asynchronous_Multi-objective_Optimisation_in_Unreliable_Distributed_Environments
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/42622112_Asynchronous_Multi-objective_Optimisation_in_Unreliable_Distributed_Environments
17 December 2014 20:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://ceph.com/category/openstack/
names
https://openstacksummitnovember2014paris.sched.org/?s=ceph
names
https://openstacksummitnovember2014paris.sched.org/?s=ceph
http://ceph.com/category/openstack/
17 December 2014 19:45
Margus Meigo commented on William LaSalle's post.
Compare that in Egypt where is more just in one month:
How come so little talk about that, as it is known some of them are proper inocent?
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/egypt-judge-sentences-680-muslim-brotherhood-backers-to-death/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/egypt-court-sentences-529-muslim-brotherhood-mohammed-morsi-backers-to-death/
How come so little talk about that, as it is known some of them are proper inocent?
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/egypt-judge-sentences-680-muslim-brotherhood-backers-to-death/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/egypt-court-sentences-529-muslim-brotherhood-mohammed-morsi-backers-to-death/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/egypt-judge-sentences-680-muslim-brotherhood-backers-to-death/
17 December 2014 18:33
Margus Meigo commented on Sepp Hasslberger's link.
not as special but nationalist as am i: "Estonia has become the first country in the world to install a nationwide system of fast chargers for electrical vehicles, the manager of the new system said, as part of European efforts to reduce carbon
emissions."
i am still lttle bit pissed they did not choose Estonain way and installed all three different charding systems (there is 3 main ones that car company uses i think, for competition). we should have step out from it and make universal charger, to reengieneer the one in our univesty guys would have easy job
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/20/17036315-estonia-launches-first-national-electric-car-charging-network
emissions."
i am still lttle bit pissed they did not choose Estonain way and installed all three different charding systems (there is 3 main ones that car company uses i think, for competition). we should have step out from it and make universal charger, to reengieneer the one in our univesty guys would have easy job
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/20/17036315-estonia-launches-first-national-electric-car-charging-network
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/20/17036315-estonia-launches-first-national-electric-car-charging-network
17 December 2014 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's photo.
one of the messages am got from clearer world is that with out Art world will die (as well)
thinking about it it is.. fatal to a community of brain to have no art as then person will end up after advancement to eliminate himself
thinking about it it is.. fatal to a community of brain to have no art as then person will end up after advancement to eliminate himself
17 December 2014 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's photo.
if we would not have artistic people or any persons with cameras.. what would be left of the squatting people memorys then
17 December 2014 00:53
Margus Meigo commented on Sepp Hasslberger's link.
perhaps they make in future wireles near by electrisity transmition spots also from these roads... so we would not need to run to change our toys all the time.
Press the button and transmit fireless electrisiti would be easy thing to implement every after few hundred meters perhaps.
(by that time perhaps we not only limited by vires in our laptops am hope)
Press the button and transmit fireless electrisiti would be easy thing to implement every after few hundred meters perhaps.
(by that time perhaps we not only limited by vires in our laptops am hope)
16 December 2014 21:52
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's photo.
am pigeon and am newer made to ther : (
16 December 2014 21:39
Margus Meigo commented on Gabrielė Zokaitė's photo.
okey in here it starts to get veird
16 December 2014 21:37
Margus Meigo commented on Gabrielė Zokaitė's photo.
thats the more realistic size
16 December 2014 21:37
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's photo.
Eated a loads of these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQNpNDHJKnY
16 December 2014 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on Vilma Pupulis's photo.
Wordles.
16 December 2014 21:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
and if ya think this posts are about Hubert then ya missed the point big time...
16 December 2014 16:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
More structured and clean: http://www.freezone.org/e_toc.htm
Problem (or benafit) with people is that they do not read most topics that are implemented in their mind as "not related to my life" ..so generally people make mistake, assuming that these who center thought is TO THINK about YOU and REGULATE YOU planet.. to think that "this does not relate to us.." .. Okey, some religious and other way avare peole we can forgive as they KNOW these powers that should take care of it but..
Problem (or benafit) with people is that they do not read most topics that are implemented in their mind as "not related to my life" ..so generally people make mistake, assuming that these who center thought is TO THINK about YOU and REGULATE YOU planet.. to think that "this does not relate to us.." .. Okey, some religious and other way avare peole we can forgive as they KNOW these powers that should take care of it but..
http://www.freezone.org/e_toc.htm
16 December 2014 16:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
kuid jah.. neid Sergeisi laheb vaja küll sellel ajal.. alati vaja olnud.. kuid loodetavasti nad ikka oma naiselt enne küsivad kui oma rahapaja laiali jagavad (tean küll, et spämm kuid ikkagi lobus vestelda, ega see mind takista)
16 December 2014 16:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Koit Olen kohe annan kui enda omadele ka saan
Here is some a bit same and more: http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/penthouse-LRonHubbardJr-interview-1983.htm
Here is some a bit same and more: http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/penthouse-LRonHubbardJr-interview-1983.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/penthouse-LRonHubbardJr-interview-1983.htm
16 December 2014 16:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
3 parts interview : . these fine tuned laws are made so they can make them self, so basic, jeesh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AdKEHzmqxA
and: http://www.apologetics315.com/2010/09/responses-to-stephen-hawking-and-grand.html
its like humans have not made self replicating. expanding and reparing software before.. for sure we are just with 40 years of software development, ..
so we investigate one of the end projects and make assumpion based on THAT code that it come from nothing. seriouslly.
just becouse. it makes him self and gives birth to new ones (once more:EASY to make software like that) ... but they kind of forget that investigating one of the birth given software product they at best might reach as ONE of the application IN a software, to the hardware,
at best in their way...
so but what kind of understanding can have one browser blugin about the reasons of why computer was made by who and how the strawberries taste
( humans are able to know and mesure so little with these devices, only as much they trust us to recive to still keep our mind in one... most of it we can not even imagine jet ... as after most people will see the truth , near truth , obsticle what they have to go near.. then they will lose the point of being man or to be alive.. so we gota grow hard and slow way..)
---
These people really need some Shamanic connections.. with their mind this would be powerful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AdKEHzmqxA
and: http://www.apologetics315.com/2010/09/responses-to-stephen-hawking-and-grand.html
its like humans have not made self replicating. expanding and reparing software before.. for sure we are just with 40 years of software development, ..
so we investigate one of the end projects and make assumpion based on THAT code that it come from nothing. seriouslly.
just becouse. it makes him self and gives birth to new ones (once more:EASY to make software like that) ... but they kind of forget that investigating one of the birth given software product they at best might reach as ONE of the application IN a software, to the hardware,
at best in their way...
so but what kind of understanding can have one browser blugin about the reasons of why computer was made by who and how the strawberries taste
( humans are able to know and mesure so little with these devices, only as much they trust us to recive to still keep our mind in one... most of it we can not even imagine jet ... as after most people will see the truth , near truth , obsticle what they have to go near.. then they will lose the point of being man or to be alive.. so we gota grow hard and slow way..)
---
These people really need some Shamanic connections.. with their mind this would be powerful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AdKEHzmqxA
16 December 2014 03:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
16 December 2014 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
16 December 2014 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
16 December 2014 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
16 December 2014 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
16 December 2014 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
16 December 2014 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
16 December 2014 01:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Download full movie in one klick: http://192.96.204.201:182/d/4w7wav4ivle32chjoqdczrxura6txdi3k5xg5nm3fp2uvkkboxs7lcvv/The.Theory.of.Everything.2014.720p.HDRip.X264.AAC.mp4
16 December 2014 01:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
ha! salaeri in there is proper better:
http://ciaagentsalary.org/CT/Niantic/salary/Cia-Salary
http://militaryliving.com/camp-niantic-rell-army-national-guard-training-site-ct05r1.htmlhttp://ciaagentsalary.org/CT/Niantic/salary/Cia-Salary
15 December 2014 21:13
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Te eriti korralikud (Y)
Jõuldu!
Jõuldu!
15 December 2014 21:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
if something is connected then something IS connected15 December 2014 19:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
lol @ 2:47
15 December 2014 10:03
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Liisa Sarapik's photo.
Rohkem lõdvestust, pühad ikkagi ju : )
15 December 2014 09:58
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's photo.
vaata hoolega seene pilti siis näed koera :P
14 December 2014 05:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://sunshinepress.org/ on offlainis vist
14 December 2014 05:21
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
Am really suspicious of letting go of the past as that is one of my fundamental corner stones to invoke past in a people and make them remember and understand every detail they ever have had in life, as much as possible,
as past is kind of like light beam that widens, and more wider it is more light in bigger scale we see in everything of present and future if that one is to be real as well.
---
But it seems, everyone try to forget the past and pretend that did not happen.. we might not know what and why happened but it is still good and important to know that something happened and perhaps that was needed, rare times even we might even recall something we did not bring on to us and that was not needed.. but for most (including stepfather beating my to death with a house mirror for wiping my cry wet nose on to shirt once.. , well, maybe needed. or, at least we are able to produce excuses why was needed and that will still progress us, specially when we still alive. At least progressing in information what is NOT good and needed, if nothing else, so we know, personally, and can save someones else road by having in our words more then a theory or story )
---
But this is just Earthly belief, in parallel more nature and cosmic ones we(as me) can accept also illusion and uselessness of it all, and perhaps it is all we gotta do in here, to accept right mind and our real spirit will awaken in another body from where the road takes that has nothing at all to do with what happened in this imagination of Earth travel
as past is kind of like light beam that widens, and more wider it is more light in bigger scale we see in everything of present and future if that one is to be real as well.
---
But it seems, everyone try to forget the past and pretend that did not happen.. we might not know what and why happened but it is still good and important to know that something happened and perhaps that was needed, rare times even we might even recall something we did not bring on to us and that was not needed.. but for most (including stepfather beating my to death with a house mirror for wiping my cry wet nose on to shirt once.. , well, maybe needed. or, at least we are able to produce excuses why was needed and that will still progress us, specially when we still alive. At least progressing in information what is NOT good and needed, if nothing else, so we know, personally, and can save someones else road by having in our words more then a theory or story )
---
But this is just Earthly belief, in parallel more nature and cosmic ones we(as me) can accept also illusion and uselessness of it all, and perhaps it is all we gotta do in here, to accept right mind and our real spirit will awaken in another body from where the road takes that has nothing at all to do with what happened in this imagination of Earth travel
13 December 2014 19:41
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
Are these things to be know always to be safe, how we know ?
13 December 2014 19:27
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
Is sinner in equal with saint in all they say,
Is burned oil equal to fresh one ?
Is equality believers as good as slaves and rulers?
... so also we should focus on what kind of equal we want to be and on what, and the standards of minimum should be set by the ones best in Life.
Is burned oil equal to fresh one ?
Is equality believers as good as slaves and rulers?
... so also we should focus on what kind of equal we want to be and on what, and the standards of minimum should be set by the ones best in Life.
13 December 2014 19:26
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's link.
Am think, as woman loves a life and keeps us alive
as She will be sure we eventually grow.
It is something between a trap and work and sooner man will get a point how we got here,.. better to everyone.
As we have free will, we do have free will do eliminate all and any kind of suffering in all worlds. Just seems so logical to do so. For starters.
as She will be sure we eventually grow.
It is something between a trap and work and sooner man will get a point how we got here,.. better to everyone.
As we have free will, we do have free will do eliminate all and any kind of suffering in all worlds. Just seems so logical to do so. For starters.
13 December 2014 19:17
Margus Meigo commented on Rainer Nõlvak's link.
it is kind of strange, that so called civilized world we still need to invent these kind of co operation works against violence, terror and robbery.
This should be elementary that any one calling anyone help against anyone who is not good should be with out saying.
Like if someone steals your wallet, and runs then anyone who can and who does not support criminal will help to stop the robber. Simple as that, not like "oh You not my friend and what is it in for me? .. let one run as long not on me..."
But yes, progress still lets hope
This should be elementary that any one calling anyone help against anyone who is not good should be with out saying.
Like if someone steals your wallet, and runs then anyone who can and who does not support criminal will help to stop the robber. Simple as that, not like "oh You not my friend and what is it in for me? .. let one run as long not on me..."
But yes, progress still lets hope
13 December 2014 19:04
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's link.
Original is also pretty good.
more to the direction of the truth, but still, real power still starts from all that what Her mother told Her, just the basic Hebrew/Native realization with Greek times got a bit lost.. as they train us, literally, to think "what is useful and what is stronger"
Chromosome part was good :p
The money thing.
If someone can make business better as long this is allowed by Cartels is alright, but that is not really aria what is clearly AS supreme as whole natural being and reason of an Women.
Many businesses man make are kind of like self living robots that can function with out an human. As system will select by using humans based on instructions who "he(system)" put to serve "himself" as a owner. As goal is progress (some more sensitive ones even will write in to instructions what kind of progress or morals that are all looked as code instructions. ).
Back to natural supremacy of woman,
(simple math as well for math minded:, if aliens would invade an earth so they can colonize with us some other planet then clearly thy would be interested more of women of all the life supporting attributes. ..and if "A healthy adult male can release between 40 million and 1.2 billion sperm cells in a single ejaculation" then how many of us would be need anyway.. )
Well, and God.. ones desires, instructions and demands are all pretty much natural and more elementary to women then for a man.
Reminder that this is "She" section of the scripture: http://biblehub.com/proverbs/8-25.htm
So this would be kind of an starting point from where am would like feminist to be up to the making home possible, and nothing less.
more to the direction of the truth, but still, real power still starts from all that what Her mother told Her, just the basic Hebrew/Native realization with Greek times got a bit lost.. as they train us, literally, to think "what is useful and what is stronger"
Chromosome part was good :p
The money thing.
If someone can make business better as long this is allowed by Cartels is alright, but that is not really aria what is clearly AS supreme as whole natural being and reason of an Women.
Many businesses man make are kind of like self living robots that can function with out an human. As system will select by using humans based on instructions who "he(system)" put to serve "himself" as a owner. As goal is progress (some more sensitive ones even will write in to instructions what kind of progress or morals that are all looked as code instructions. ).
Back to natural supremacy of woman,
(simple math as well for math minded:, if aliens would invade an earth so they can colonize with us some other planet then clearly thy would be interested more of women of all the life supporting attributes. ..and if "A healthy adult male can release between 40 million and 1.2 billion sperm cells in a single ejaculation" then how many of us would be need anyway.. )
Well, and God.. ones desires, instructions and demands are all pretty much natural and more elementary to women then for a man.
Reminder that this is "She" section of the scripture: http://biblehub.com/proverbs/8-25.htm
So this would be kind of an starting point from where am would like feminist to be up to the making home possible, and nothing less.
http://biblehub.com/proverbs/8-25.htm
13 December 2014 18:58
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's link.
That is true but still makes me wonder how do they make these (kind) picture series spontaniously..
13 December 2014 18:07
Margus Meigo commented on Florence Wessen's post.
This made me laught out loud and there have not been many things that have made me laught loud in these times.
13 December 2014 18:06
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Aloysius Matthews's photo.
phillipines got nothing on us
12 December 2014 20:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
this is way is sometimes even dangerous peopel of different level of intelligence to sit on same round table and exanging problems and solutions , as we speak another language (language meant in here as reason (way of thinking) why and how we should be alive)
12 December 2014 20:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
And from another corner, more main stream:
"Genetic distance is a measure of the genetic divergence between species or between populations within a species. Populations with many similar genes have small genetic distances. This indicates that they are closely related and have a recent common ancestor.
Genetic distance is useful for reconstructing the history of populations. For example, evidence from genetic distance suggests that African and Eurasian people diverged about 100,000 years ago.[2] Genetic distance is also used for understanding the origin of biodiversity. For example, the genetic distances between different breeds of domesticated animals are often investigated in order to determine which breeds should be protected to maintain genetic diversity."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_distance
"In biology, epigenetics is the study of cellular and physiological traits that are heritable by daughter cells and not caused by changes in the DNA sequence; Epigenetics describes the study of stable, long-term alterations in the transcriptional potential of a cell. These alterations may or may not be heritable, although the use of the term epigenetic to describe processes that are not heritable is controversial. Unlike simple genetics based on changes to the DNA sequence (the genotype), the changes in gene expression or cellular phenotype of epigenetics have other causes, thus use of the term epi- (Greek: επί- over, outside of, around) -genetics"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics
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an all related to the topic of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Background_extinction_rate seems to be möga , un needed science (so say 1000 or 100 00 per year.. some say 1000 times faster then before.. some say natural.. some show the periods of extinction has been massive over the history and current time rather there is more and a lot then before.. ahh.. we gotta get ourself in an order first to even know what and why we looking )
Well, that is just first feeling. Last two wiki links lousily needed
"Genetic distance is a measure of the genetic divergence between species or between populations within a species. Populations with many similar genes have small genetic distances. This indicates that they are closely related and have a recent common ancestor.
Genetic distance is useful for reconstructing the history of populations. For example, evidence from genetic distance suggests that African and Eurasian people diverged about 100,000 years ago.[2] Genetic distance is also used for understanding the origin of biodiversity. For example, the genetic distances between different breeds of domesticated animals are often investigated in order to determine which breeds should be protected to maintain genetic diversity."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_distance
"In biology, epigenetics is the study of cellular and physiological traits that are heritable by daughter cells and not caused by changes in the DNA sequence; Epigenetics describes the study of stable, long-term alterations in the transcriptional potential of a cell. These alterations may or may not be heritable, although the use of the term epigenetic to describe processes that are not heritable is controversial. Unlike simple genetics based on changes to the DNA sequence (the genotype), the changes in gene expression or cellular phenotype of epigenetics have other causes, thus use of the term epi- (Greek: επί- over, outside of, around) -genetics"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics
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an all related to the topic of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Background_extinction_rate seems to be möga , un needed science (so say 1000 or 100 00 per year.. some say 1000 times faster then before.. some say natural.. some show the periods of extinction has been massive over the history and current time rather there is more and a lot then before.. ahh.. we gotta get ourself in an order first to even know what and why we looking )
Well, that is just first feeling. Last two wiki links lousily needed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_distance
12 December 2014 17:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
But am less sure if that is proper Jew who write that Kosher sex article as one wondered about "maybe in new age for AIDS prevention condoms might be allowed.." There is no AIDSH.I.V. when ya Jew, what ya talking about ...
person walks in love and then uses plastic between the body to prevent .. that is messed up, good am give all my condoms away, that was a loads collected of all shapes in last few years, .. perhaps should have made collection of.. uh, starting to think about, it is pretty disgusting thing, the condom
the function what they do, is pretty sick, try to imagine that psychedelically when keeping god head image of her front of ya..
Jup, This seems pretty sure. Just need to nail it with something more, will do that later on.
person walks in love and then uses plastic between the body to prevent .. that is messed up, good am give all my condoms away, that was a loads collected of all shapes in last few years, .. perhaps should have made collection of.. uh, starting to think about, it is pretty disgusting thing, the condom
the function what they do, is pretty sick, try to imagine that psychedelically when keeping god head image of her front of ya..
Jup, This seems pretty sure. Just need to nail it with something more, will do that later on.
12 December 2014 14:25
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
you almoust not sure ya self as well is that good : )
12 December 2014 13:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
No wonder we have been helping to support Jewish killings in millions in last few millenniums, they are awesome!
Almost like Estonians:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
In Jewish law, sex is not considered shameful, sinful or obscene. Sex is not a necessary evil for the sole purpose of procreation. Although sexual desire comes from the yetzer ra (the evil impulse), it is no more evil than hunger or thirst, which also come from the yetzer ra. Like hunger, thirst or other basic instincts, sexual desire must be controlled and channeled, satisfied at the proper time, place and manner. But when sexual desire is satisfied between a husband and wife at the proper time, out of mutual love and desire, sex is a mitzvah.
Sex is permissible only within the context of a marriage. In Judaism, sex is not merely a way of experiencing physical pleasure. It is an act of immense significance, which requires commitment and responsibility. The requirement of marriage before sex ensures that sense commitment and responsibility. Jewish law also forbids sexual contact short of intercourse outside of the context of marriage, recognizing that such contact will inevitably lead to intercourse.
The primary purpose of sex is to reinforce the loving marital bond between husband and wife. The first and foremost purpose of marriage is companionship, and sexual relations play an important role. Procreation is also a reason for sex, but it is not the only reason. Sex between husband and wife is permitted (even recommended) at times when conception is impossible, such as when the woman is pregnant, after menopause, or when the woman is using a permissible form of contraception.
In the Torah, the word used for sex between husband and wife comes from the root Dalet-Ayin-Tav, meaning "to know," which vividly illustrates that proper Jewish sexuality involves both the heart and mind, not merely the body.
Nevertheless, Judaism does not ignore the physical component of sexuality. The need for physical compatibility between husband and wife is recognized in Jewish law. A Jewish couple must meet at least once before the marriage, and if either prospective spouse finds the other physically repulsive, the marriage is forbidden.
Sex should only be experienced in a time of joy. Sex for selfish personal satisfaction, without regard for the partner's pleasure, is wrong and evil. A man may never force his wife to have sex. A couple may not have sexual relations while drunk or quarreling. Sex may never be used as a weapon against a spouse, either by depriving the spouse of sex or by compelling it. It is a serious offense to use sex (or lack thereof) to punish or manipulate a spouse.
Sex is the woman's right, not the man's. A man has a duty to give his wife sex regularly and to ensure that sex is pleasurable for her.
GOT it?
He is also obligated to watch for signs that his wife wants sex, and to offer it to her without her asking for it. The woman's right to sexual intercourse is referred to as onah, and is one of a wife's three basic rights (the others are food and clothing), which a husband may not reduce. The Talmud specifies both the quantity and quality of sex that a man must give his wife. It specifies the frequency of sexual obligation based on the husband's occupation, although this obligation can be modified in the ketubah (marriage contract). A man may not take a vow to abstain from sex for an extended period of time, and may not take a journey for an extended period of time, because that would deprive his wife of sexual relations. In addition, a husband's consistent refusal to engage in sexual relations is grounds for compelling a man to divorce his wife, even if the couple has already fulfilled the halakhic obligation to procreate.
Although sex is the woman's right, she does not have absolute discretion to withhold it from her husband. A woman may not withhold sex from her husband as a form of punishment, and if she does, the husband may divorce her without paying the substantial divorce settlement provided for in the ketubah.
Although some sources take a more narrow view, the general view of halakhah is that any sexual act that does not involve sh'chatat zerah (destruction of seed, that is, ejaculation outside the vagina) is permissible. As one passage in the Talmud states, "a man may do whatever he pleases with his wife." In fact, there are passages in the Talmud that encourage foreplay to arouse the woman.
Almost like Estonians:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
In Jewish law, sex is not considered shameful, sinful or obscene. Sex is not a necessary evil for the sole purpose of procreation. Although sexual desire comes from the yetzer ra (the evil impulse), it is no more evil than hunger or thirst, which also come from the yetzer ra. Like hunger, thirst or other basic instincts, sexual desire must be controlled and channeled, satisfied at the proper time, place and manner. But when sexual desire is satisfied between a husband and wife at the proper time, out of mutual love and desire, sex is a mitzvah.
Sex is permissible only within the context of a marriage. In Judaism, sex is not merely a way of experiencing physical pleasure. It is an act of immense significance, which requires commitment and responsibility. The requirement of marriage before sex ensures that sense commitment and responsibility. Jewish law also forbids sexual contact short of intercourse outside of the context of marriage, recognizing that such contact will inevitably lead to intercourse.
The primary purpose of sex is to reinforce the loving marital bond between husband and wife. The first and foremost purpose of marriage is companionship, and sexual relations play an important role. Procreation is also a reason for sex, but it is not the only reason. Sex between husband and wife is permitted (even recommended) at times when conception is impossible, such as when the woman is pregnant, after menopause, or when the woman is using a permissible form of contraception.
In the Torah, the word used for sex between husband and wife comes from the root Dalet-Ayin-Tav, meaning "to know," which vividly illustrates that proper Jewish sexuality involves both the heart and mind, not merely the body.
Nevertheless, Judaism does not ignore the physical component of sexuality. The need for physical compatibility between husband and wife is recognized in Jewish law. A Jewish couple must meet at least once before the marriage, and if either prospective spouse finds the other physically repulsive, the marriage is forbidden.
Sex should only be experienced in a time of joy. Sex for selfish personal satisfaction, without regard for the partner's pleasure, is wrong and evil. A man may never force his wife to have sex. A couple may not have sexual relations while drunk or quarreling. Sex may never be used as a weapon against a spouse, either by depriving the spouse of sex or by compelling it. It is a serious offense to use sex (or lack thereof) to punish or manipulate a spouse.
Sex is the woman's right, not the man's. A man has a duty to give his wife sex regularly and to ensure that sex is pleasurable for her.
GOT it?
He is also obligated to watch for signs that his wife wants sex, and to offer it to her without her asking for it. The woman's right to sexual intercourse is referred to as onah, and is one of a wife's three basic rights (the others are food and clothing), which a husband may not reduce. The Talmud specifies both the quantity and quality of sex that a man must give his wife. It specifies the frequency of sexual obligation based on the husband's occupation, although this obligation can be modified in the ketubah (marriage contract). A man may not take a vow to abstain from sex for an extended period of time, and may not take a journey for an extended period of time, because that would deprive his wife of sexual relations. In addition, a husband's consistent refusal to engage in sexual relations is grounds for compelling a man to divorce his wife, even if the couple has already fulfilled the halakhic obligation to procreate.
Although sex is the woman's right, she does not have absolute discretion to withhold it from her husband. A woman may not withhold sex from her husband as a form of punishment, and if she does, the husband may divorce her without paying the substantial divorce settlement provided for in the ketubah.
Although some sources take a more narrow view, the general view of halakhah is that any sexual act that does not involve sh'chatat zerah (destruction of seed, that is, ejaculation outside the vagina) is permissible. As one passage in the Talmud states, "a man may do whatever he pleases with his wife." In fact, there are passages in the Talmud that encourage foreplay to arouse the woman.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html
12 December 2014 02:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
This song is after deep: (Alexandrijo, Alexander in Spanish)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA
see mees sõja homo vägi lõppeb, kuidas hereod on trikitatud mõtlema, et see midagi mida naised vajavad ? Ja mida VEEL, kelle vajadusi siis peaksime teenima ennekõige kui oma keha loojate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA
see mees sõja homo vägi lõppeb, kuidas hereod on trikitatud mõtlema, et see midagi mida naised vajavad ? Ja mida VEEL, kelle vajadusi siis peaksime teenima ennekõige kui oma keha loojate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA
12 December 2014 02:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
coyly: Ujedalt ....backsliding: üleastumistes
12 December 2014 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Well, that is good.
What is our reasons to be boor and un famous again ?
What is our reasons to be boor and un famous again ?
12 December 2014 01:57
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's photo.
Priceless. This moment was just great, am should have come whit ya on that morning when you called,
or perhaps then they would have called entire event off :D
This picture is so good, hard to even stage better one, and that's for real life!
or perhaps then they would have called entire event off :D
This picture is so good, hard to even stage better one, and that's for real life!
10 December 2014 23:21
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's photo.
Looks homey and tasty!
10 December 2014 23:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
On endiselt ! ;)
10 December 2014 13:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
aa nu ma mõtlesin , et vast olid Sina Marge, seepärast su nurgataha märkisin, üks mu lemmik piltidest!
kusjuures nood kuused on ka legendaarsed, nodega sai rohkem mängitud kui ühegi muuga
kusjuures nood kuused on ka legendaarsed, nodega sai rohkem mängitud kui ühegi muuga
10 December 2014 13:03
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's post.
Group: Only WAY
And the pray for man works best if He sees You, Wife as His biggest gift in world who holds his soul, and he also prays in thankful heart with a doings : )10 December 2014 01:58
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
who is whiter
8 December 2014 19:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
All the docs are on the original post google docs link as well, if you feel weird downloading from .mil and DOD sites.. : )
not that there would be to much of a difference .. as Internet is still same.. and the access points you use for internet matters little what password u use as all UK public WiFi has filter in.
and the docs.. no need to wonder if you get them... or if you have time to read them all.. just take a small look, peek.. and think.. realise,, these are basic open documents.. what they talk about open.. for old people.. so what is behind ... is not just a little more..
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and we do what.. protest about one strange guy in US when huge amount of people get killed everywhere... and hey.. everyone who is who ever friend who is marked to be in these events on street or in cell.. is mapped with body movement and many other methods, but they have higher interest of your body.. luckily most of them are good and just want to use you for weapon or study of species like in laboratory...
not that there would be to much of a difference .. as Internet is still same.. and the access points you use for internet matters little what password u use as all UK public WiFi has filter in.
and the docs.. no need to wonder if you get them... or if you have time to read them all.. just take a small look, peek.. and think.. realise,, these are basic open documents.. what they talk about open.. for old people.. so what is behind ... is not just a little more..
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and we do what.. protest about one strange guy in US when huge amount of people get killed everywhere... and hey.. everyone who is who ever friend who is marked to be in these events on street or in cell.. is mapped with body movement and many other methods, but they have higher interest of your body.. luckily most of them are good and just want to use you for weapon or study of species like in laboratory...
8 December 2014 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Few docs, some more important some just for the interested ones
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/332647/20140717-RAF_Croughton_weaponry_crime.pdf (read section 8: V2K, Voice-to-Skull sound that drivers person mad, NGIC-1147-101-98 )
http://www.justice.gov/criminal/foia/docs/elec-sur-manual.pdf
http://www.lobcocks.com/dl/Search-for-the-Manchurian-Candidate.pdf
https://sites.google.com/site/mcrais/bluebird
http://energy.gov/sites/prod/files/hss/Classification/docs/CTI-Training-RD-FRD-Briefing.pdf
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977.IH:
“BEYOND-THE-BOX” THINKING ON FUTURE WAR: THE ART AND SCIENCE OF UNRESTRICTED WARFARE
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a539664.pdf
A mind Brain Matter model consistent with quantum physics and ufo phenomena
http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/homeland_defense/UFOs/Bearden_UFO_ADA068988.pdf
http://www.uscourts.gov/uscourts/FormsAndFees/Forms/WT-Inst.pdf
http://fas.org/sgp/congress/2001/hr2977.pdf
http://www.resourcegovernance.org/publications/contracts-confidential-ending-secret-deals-extractive-industries (click on picture for full pdf book and think about bitcoin..)
www.xenu.net/archive/books/mom/Messiah_or_Madman.txt
http://amasci.com/hum/newshum.txt
http://www.spunk.org/texts/altern/pub/keith/sp000435.txt (Extremely Low Frequency Radiation mind control)
https://ia802606.us.archive.org/24/items/MonarchTheNewPhoenixProgram_441/Monarch.pdf
http://www.gao.gov/assets/660/658981.txt ("In 2012, the DNI reported that more than 4.9 million federal
government and contractor employees held or were eligible to hold a personnel security clearance." ...just giving you an idea how many federal peopel there is alone..)
http://fas.org/irp/doddir/usmc/mco3821-1ba.txt (The Defense Attache System)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/assets/omb/inforeg/proposed_cispea_guidance.pdf
https://ia801002.us.archive.org/19/items/803585-2013-10-08-ha-counterclaim/803585-2013-10-08-ha-counterclaim.pdf
About that: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/hells-angels-call-b-c-clubhouse-seizures-charter-violation-1.1931393
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This is what you should do with your 2000 people.. collect these kind of material.. read.. google.. deepweb.. and think what to do... and what to do beneficial when they again call you together by using occupy anonymous or any other government ops,. that many are a bit red top of that..
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/332647/20140717-RAF_Croughton_weaponry_crime.pdf (read section 8: V2K, Voice-to-Skull sound that drivers person mad, NGIC-1147-101-98 )
http://www.justice.gov/criminal/foia/docs/elec-sur-manual.pdf
http://www.lobcocks.com/dl/Search-for-the-Manchurian-Candidate.pdf
https://sites.google.com/site/mcrais/bluebird
http://energy.gov/sites/prod/files/hss/Classification/docs/CTI-Training-RD-FRD-Briefing.pdf
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977.IH:
“BEYOND-THE-BOX” THINKING ON FUTURE WAR: THE ART AND SCIENCE OF UNRESTRICTED WARFARE
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a539664.pdf
A mind Brain Matter model consistent with quantum physics and ufo phenomena
http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/homeland_defense/UFOs/Bearden_UFO_ADA068988.pdf
http://www.uscourts.gov/uscourts/FormsAndFees/Forms/WT-Inst.pdf
http://fas.org/sgp/congress/2001/hr2977.pdf
http://www.resourcegovernance.org/publications/contracts-confidential-ending-secret-deals-extractive-industries (click on picture for full pdf book and think about bitcoin..)
www.xenu.net/archive/books/mom/Messiah_or_Madman.txt
http://amasci.com/hum/newshum.txt
http://www.spunk.org/texts/altern/pub/keith/sp000435.txt (Extremely Low Frequency Radiation mind control)
https://ia802606.us.archive.org/24/items/MonarchTheNewPhoenixProgram_441/Monarch.pdf
http://www.gao.gov/assets/660/658981.txt ("In 2012, the DNI reported that more than 4.9 million federal
government and contractor employees held or were eligible to hold a personnel security clearance." ...just giving you an idea how many federal peopel there is alone..)
http://fas.org/irp/doddir/usmc/mco3821-1ba.txt (The Defense Attache System)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/assets/omb/inforeg/proposed_cispea_guidance.pdf
https://ia801002.us.archive.org/19/items/803585-2013-10-08-ha-counterclaim/803585-2013-10-08-ha-counterclaim.pdf
About that: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/hells-angels-call-b-c-clubhouse-seizures-charter-violation-1.1931393
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This is what you should do with your 2000 people.. collect these kind of material.. read.. google.. deepweb.. and think what to do... and what to do beneficial when they again call you together by using occupy anonymous or any other government ops,. that many are a bit red top of that..
8 December 2014 04:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Same random public patents (patent means that it is not some random blog post...):
Three (3) distinct improvements (different fields of use) to the prior art or invention entitled instant face-lifter
US 20080221704 A1
https://www.google.com/patents/US20080221704?dq=mind+control&hl=en&sa=X&ei=q_dIVO-NMI23yAT_wIKoCA&ved=0CEsQ6AEwBzgU
Neural links/artificial intelligence/computer-robotics/automation/mind control over any and all things
CA 2625795 A1
https://www.google.com/patents/CA2625795A1?cl=en&dq=mind+control&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Y7xCVL3AOO-AsQTw6oKwAw&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAQ
Field operation psychology protecting shelter
CN 103479495 A
https://www.google.com/patents/CN103479495A?cl=en&dq=mind+control&hl=xx-hacker&sa=X&ei=I9BCVIujC4_bsATw3IKgBw&ved=0CBcQ6AEwADgK
External condition control device based on measurement of brain functions
US 20090036781 A1
https://www.google.com/patents/US20090036781?dq=mind+control&hl=en&sa=X&ei=eR1DVPeUH6-ZsQSzvYHoCg&ved=0CEgQ6AEwBjgK
Sonic weapon system
US 4349898 A
https://www.google.com/patents/US4349898?dq=Acoustic+weapon&hl=en&sa=X&ei=x7ZHVJ3aN6T28AGz_oDADA&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAw
Electromagnetic pulse downhole telemetry
WO 2014127482 A1
https://www.google.com/patents/WO2014127482A1?cl=en&dq=electromagnetic+pulse&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QPVIVOjaFYf3yQSe5oLgAg&sqi=2&pjf=1&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBQ
Method of enhancing electromagnetic-pulse equivalent radiation power
CN 103647527 A
https://www.google.com/patents/CN103647527A?cl=en&dq=electromagnetic+pulse&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QPVIVOjaFYf3yQSe5oLgAg&sqi=2&pjf=1&ved=0CFMQ6AEwCA
Three (3) distinct improvements (different fields of use) to the prior art or invention entitled instant face-lifter
US 20080221704 A1
https://www.google.com/patents/US20080221704?dq=mind+control&hl=en&sa=X&ei=q_dIVO-NMI23yAT_wIKoCA&ved=0CEsQ6AEwBzgU
Neural links/artificial intelligence/computer-robotics/automation/mind control over any and all things
CA 2625795 A1
https://www.google.com/patents/CA2625795A1?cl=en&dq=mind+control&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Y7xCVL3AOO-AsQTw6oKwAw&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAQ
Field operation psychology protecting shelter
CN 103479495 A
https://www.google.com/patents/CN103479495A?cl=en&dq=mind+control&hl=xx-hacker&sa=X&ei=I9BCVIujC4_bsATw3IKgBw&ved=0CBcQ6AEwADgK
External condition control device based on measurement of brain functions
US 20090036781 A1
https://www.google.com/patents/US20090036781?dq=mind+control&hl=en&sa=X&ei=eR1DVPeUH6-ZsQSzvYHoCg&ved=0CEgQ6AEwBjgK
Sonic weapon system
US 4349898 A
https://www.google.com/patents/US4349898?dq=Acoustic+weapon&hl=en&sa=X&ei=x7ZHVJ3aN6T28AGz_oDADA&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAw
Electromagnetic pulse downhole telemetry
WO 2014127482 A1
https://www.google.com/patents/WO2014127482A1?cl=en&dq=electromagnetic+pulse&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QPVIVOjaFYf3yQSe5oLgAg&sqi=2&pjf=1&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBQ
Method of enhancing electromagnetic-pulse equivalent radiation power
CN 103647527 A
https://www.google.com/patents/CN103647527A?cl=en&dq=electromagnetic+pulse&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QPVIVOjaFYf3yQSe5oLgAg&sqi=2&pjf=1&ved=0CFMQ6AEwCA
https://www.google.com/patents/US20080221704?dq=mind+control&hl=en&sa=X&ei=q_dIVO-NMI23yAT_wIKoCA&ved=0CEsQ6AEwBzgU
8 December 2014 04:40
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's post.
aww
8 December 2014 04:27
Margus Meigo commented on Rav Maitreya's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
I am totally on the cap side on that
Some dude who rob alcohol and sigarettes, then refuse to stop when cop in a state with order to shoot tells him to stop and there is even story he fucked about with a cop physically, how stupid
There is real good people, millions getting killed but instead people all jomp in to communist anti state propacanda and join with the masses and growd
Are we serious, just looking for exjuse ?
If any similar guy to him would have stealed from a people as him self they would have soot him on spot as well and no one would know about it.
There was same trick done in london where people was made feel for a criminal to tuin their soul ... we should be smarter then jomp in to STATE ORGANISED PROPACANDA .. some other state, but still a state. Is that so hard to see ?
There is any kind of illusions and massive mass murders and conspiracis that they can handle to manage.. but they cant handle this story about unknown street gang guy who would probabaly spit on you if you would ask from him a fiver.
If he would have stole a food, i would have respect for him, but he just made hes mark and state using thise mass riots to map who is completly cullable8 December 2014 01:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
almoust rabeling but still fit top of here: On the problem with “paraphyletic groups”
Ever since humans started conceptualizing reality, nominalists and class-realists have battled about whose logic that is consistent. Nominalism starts from objects and class-realism starts from classes, meaning that the assumption of one is the conclusion of the other.
Recently, however, class-realism made suicide by claiming that there is a single true tree of life, in contradiction to Russell’s paradox, by thereby creating the weird class it called “paraphyletic groups”. Such “things” are real iff (if and only if) there indeed is a single true tree of life, in which case they at the same time ought not be real. The move thus disclosed class-realism’s logical flaw in the moment it claimed that it is consistent. Such “paraphyletic groups” are actually the back side of class-realism’s logical flaw: if class-realism is consistent, then “paraphyletic groups” are real, which they ought not be if class-realism is consistent. “Paraphyletic groups” thus disclosed that class-realism isn’t consistent (ie, is inconsistent).
However, class-realists did not understand the meaning of “paraphyletic groups” then and haven’t yet. Instead, they thought and still think that they can find “the true tree of life” by getting rid of “paraphyletic groups”, when fact is that they create new “paraphyletic groups” by every “paraphyletic group” they get rid of, because “paraphyletic groups” aren’t real, but a mind-ghost they create by their logical flaw. They thus try to get rid of something that they, themselves, actually create. “Paraphyletic groups” will thus not disappear until class-realists understand that they are a result of their logical flaw, which may be never.
The fact to understand is thus not what “paraphyletic groups” are, but that there isn’t any single true tree of life. If you do understand this fact, then “paraphyletic groups” disappear like a troll in daylight. If you can’t understand this fact, then you can only save yourself from falling into this class-realist trap by sticking to an orthogonal classification like the Linnean systematics. Where are the “paraphyletic groups” in such a classification?
The fundamental reason of why there isn’t any single true tree of life is that “groups” are not “entities”, but that there are instead two kinds of “groups”: finite and infinite, neither of which can change. It means that if we want to describe change in terms of “groups” (ie, generically), then there are several just as true descriptions of one and the same change. It is simply impossible to describe a single change unambiguously generically. Or, in a more generic sense: it is impossible to describe a singularity unambiguously generically (which sounds logically consistent), “Paraphyletic groups” are thus what we create if we inconsistently think that we can describe a singularity unambiguously generically.
http://menvall.wordpress.com/2014/02/25/on-the-problem-with-paraphyletic-groups/
Posted on February 25, 2014
Ever since humans started conceptualizing reality, nominalists and class-realists have battled about whose logic that is consistent. Nominalism starts from objects and class-realism starts from classes, meaning that the assumption of one is the conclusion of the other.
Recently, however, class-realism made suicide by claiming that there is a single true tree of life, in contradiction to Russell’s paradox, by thereby creating the weird class it called “paraphyletic groups”. Such “things” are real iff (if and only if) there indeed is a single true tree of life, in which case they at the same time ought not be real. The move thus disclosed class-realism’s logical flaw in the moment it claimed that it is consistent. Such “paraphyletic groups” are actually the back side of class-realism’s logical flaw: if class-realism is consistent, then “paraphyletic groups” are real, which they ought not be if class-realism is consistent. “Paraphyletic groups” thus disclosed that class-realism isn’t consistent (ie, is inconsistent).
However, class-realists did not understand the meaning of “paraphyletic groups” then and haven’t yet. Instead, they thought and still think that they can find “the true tree of life” by getting rid of “paraphyletic groups”, when fact is that they create new “paraphyletic groups” by every “paraphyletic group” they get rid of, because “paraphyletic groups” aren’t real, but a mind-ghost they create by their logical flaw. They thus try to get rid of something that they, themselves, actually create. “Paraphyletic groups” will thus not disappear until class-realists understand that they are a result of their logical flaw, which may be never.
The fact to understand is thus not what “paraphyletic groups” are, but that there isn’t any single true tree of life. If you do understand this fact, then “paraphyletic groups” disappear like a troll in daylight. If you can’t understand this fact, then you can only save yourself from falling into this class-realist trap by sticking to an orthogonal classification like the Linnean systematics. Where are the “paraphyletic groups” in such a classification?
The fundamental reason of why there isn’t any single true tree of life is that “groups” are not “entities”, but that there are instead two kinds of “groups”: finite and infinite, neither of which can change. It means that if we want to describe change in terms of “groups” (ie, generically), then there are several just as true descriptions of one and the same change. It is simply impossible to describe a single change unambiguously generically. Or, in a more generic sense: it is impossible to describe a singularity unambiguously generically (which sounds logically consistent), “Paraphyletic groups” are thus what we create if we inconsistently think that we can describe a singularity unambiguously generically.
http://menvall.wordpress.com/2014/02/25/on-the-problem-with-paraphyletic-groups/
Posted on February 25, 2014
http://menvall.wordpress.com/2014/02/25/on-the-problem-with-paraphyletic-groups/
7 December 2014 22:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The point is two-fold:
first, a lot of people demand to know why there are apes or monkeys still around if we evolved from them - which we didn't any more than they from us; second, a lot of responses are "we didn't evolve from apes, we and apes share a common ancestor", or "we didn't evolve from monkeys", often imbedded in posts that I otherwise agree with, when they should, more correctly, state that
"we didn't evolve from any modern ape, we share a common ancestor with them".So I'm not saying "we evolved from monkeys, discuss", I'm saying "By the way, as much as we did not evolve from any modern monkeys, we did evolve from an ancestral monkey"
reply to post by Cosmic.
ArtifactIf I understand what you're saying, thanks, that is a good way of putting it. However, please do note that while modern apes are more properly considered our cousins than our grandparents, some are currently considered much closer cousins to us than they are to other apes (hence, we did evolve from an ape, just not current ones.
reply to post by iterationzero
That, and those who are arguing - as is appropriate - that we share a common ancestor rather than a monkey-gives-birth-to-human scenario, often say "nobody says we evolved from monkeys", when... we do say that.
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We are apes, but we are our own species.Apes belong to the family homonidae, but are further divided by subfamilies, genus, and species.We are apes, but we are our own species. Just like tigers are cats but are still their own species.
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Every living organism is currently in a state of evolution., it is an unending process. Of course, that doesn't mean that the rest of our ape family members are going to become human like. It all depends on the selective pressures they're introduced to.
" Evolution is real-time, something that is happening currently and not to be spoken of as past-tense, it is happening at this very moment in the natural world. "
And in the human world. We're evolving, but only very slowly. There have been changes in our allele frequencies over successive generations and there will continue to be such changes unless our branch of the 'tree of life' withers and dies.
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Originally posted by tgidkpi have read your argument and as much as i would like to pick it apart (i love a good intellectual brawl), i cannot.but what i can say is that i cannot understand why, at the level of discourse of ATS, do you think this level of semantics is relevant to the discussion?i TOTALLY get what you are saying, but i still see nothing wrong with simply stating that we "evolved from monkeys".
it is an overall simpler abstraction and thus allows us to handle the complexity of the concept of evolution with more agility.bluntly: whats your point?
I agree.
Maths has never been my thing, so it's confusing when people who understand numbers insist that pi is a never-ending number that I can't remember
.What would be wrong with just saying pi = 3?It's much simpler and that's how I understand it.And, as Madness has previously pointed out, the bible proves pi = 3
http://goo.gl/8Q4Cal
first, a lot of people demand to know why there are apes or monkeys still around if we evolved from them - which we didn't any more than they from us; second, a lot of responses are "we didn't evolve from apes, we and apes share a common ancestor", or "we didn't evolve from monkeys", often imbedded in posts that I otherwise agree with, when they should, more correctly, state that
"we didn't evolve from any modern ape, we share a common ancestor with them".So I'm not saying "we evolved from monkeys, discuss", I'm saying "By the way, as much as we did not evolve from any modern monkeys, we did evolve from an ancestral monkey"
reply to post by Cosmic.
ArtifactIf I understand what you're saying, thanks, that is a good way of putting it. However, please do note that while modern apes are more properly considered our cousins than our grandparents, some are currently considered much closer cousins to us than they are to other apes (hence, we did evolve from an ape, just not current ones.
reply to post by iterationzero
That, and those who are arguing - as is appropriate - that we share a common ancestor rather than a monkey-gives-birth-to-human scenario, often say "nobody says we evolved from monkeys", when... we do say that.
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We are apes, but we are our own species.Apes belong to the family homonidae, but are further divided by subfamilies, genus, and species.We are apes, but we are our own species. Just like tigers are cats but are still their own species.
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Every living organism is currently in a state of evolution., it is an unending process. Of course, that doesn't mean that the rest of our ape family members are going to become human like. It all depends on the selective pressures they're introduced to.
" Evolution is real-time, something that is happening currently and not to be spoken of as past-tense, it is happening at this very moment in the natural world. "
And in the human world. We're evolving, but only very slowly. There have been changes in our allele frequencies over successive generations and there will continue to be such changes unless our branch of the 'tree of life' withers and dies.
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Originally posted by tgidkpi have read your argument and as much as i would like to pick it apart (i love a good intellectual brawl), i cannot.but what i can say is that i cannot understand why, at the level of discourse of ATS, do you think this level of semantics is relevant to the discussion?i TOTALLY get what you are saying, but i still see nothing wrong with simply stating that we "evolved from monkeys".
it is an overall simpler abstraction and thus allows us to handle the complexity of the concept of evolution with more agility.bluntly: whats your point?
I agree.
Maths has never been my thing, so it's confusing when people who understand numbers insist that pi is a never-ending number that I can't remember
.What would be wrong with just saying pi = 3?It's much simpler and that's how I understand it.And, as Madness has previously pointed out, the bible proves pi = 3
http://goo.gl/8Q4Cal
http://goo.gl/8Q4Cal
7 December 2014 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Intro.
Having spent under a month haunting this particular forum, it has come to my attention that a lot of arguments concerning the validity of "the theory of evolution" are actually based on a specific evolutionary hypothesis concerning human origins, namely that we are a member of the goup "primates", also including the great and lesser apes, old world and new world monkeys, lemurs, tarsiers, and so on.
While the body of evidence supporting this particular hypothesis is sufficient to convince me that it is true, that is not my concern here. Rather, I have noticed that a good many people, on both sides of the "evolutionist" argument, are misrepresenting our (hypothesized) position within the primates. I intend to rectify this.
A Couple Of Words on Phylogeny
Just so you know what I'm talking about, there are a couple of terms that will need to be explained: First off, "monophyly" and "paraphyly". If a term - for example, "monkey" is to be treated as monophyletic, it has to include all descendants of the most recent common ancestor of all groups described as monkeys. If it does not, it is considered to be "polyphyletic", which effectively makes it biologically invalid.
As a less obscure example, imagine a group of people known by the name of "The Smith-Joneses", who all share one great-great grandmother. For the term to be monophyletic, everyone descended from this great-great grandmother must be included in the group known as "the Smith-Joneses". If those who have, for example, married and changed their names, are not included, "the Smith-Joneses" becomes polyphyletic
Another issue is with the levels of phylogeny. Basically, every organism exists within a species, within a genus, within a family, within an order, within a class, within a phylum, within a kingdom, within a domain.
Because evolution doesn't tend to happen in neat, regular units, a number of intermediate "clades" are added - those above gain the prefix "super-", and those below gain either "Sub-", "Infra-" or "Parv" - giving us such terms as parvorders within infraorders within suborders within orders within superorders, et cetera. The term "tribe", although not used here, is employed to describe a group between subfamily and genus.
What we are
Homonins
Homo sapiens - that's us - are in the subfamily Homoninae. Also within the Homoninae are the African Great apes - that is, members of the genus Pan (chimps and bonobos), and, at the base of the group, members of the genus Gorilla.
Assuming the arrangement of the groups within the hominins is correct - with gorillas splitting off before chimps and humans diverged - the term "african apes", to be monophyletic, would include humans. Our ancestry, at any rate, is considered to be with the group "african apes".
That is not to say that we evolved from chimpanzees, or that they evolved from gorillas. While the common ancestor was an african ape, it would not be considered the same species as any one of the modern species.
Homonids
Homonids, or "great apes", describes the members of the family Homonidae. Within this group are the subfamilies "Homoninae" and "Ponginae". "Ponginae" currently includes only the genus "Pongo", the Orangutans.
To be monophyletic, as such, "great apes", including chimps, bonobos, gorillas and orangutans, must also include humans.
Hominoids
Hominoids, or "apes" describes members of the superfamily Hominoidea. Within this group are the families "Homonidae" - the great apes - and "Hylobatidae" - the gibbons, or "lesser apes". To be monophyletic, therefore, "Apes" must include not only gibbons, orangutans, chimps, bonobos and gorillas, but also ourselves.
Catarrhines
The parvorder Catarrhini contains two groups - the previously discussed Hominoidea, and the Cercopithecoidea, or old world monkeys - old world monkeys describing the - mostly tailed - monkeys native to Africa and Asia.
Simian
The infraorder Simiiformes, or simians, describes the "ape-like" primates, consisting of the two parvorders "Catarrhini" and "Platyrrhini (the new world monkeys).
What this means is that the two lineages currently known as "Monkeys" diverged before the old world monkeys separated from the apes.
What this, in turn, means is that "monkeys", from an evolutionary perspective, includes the apes. Certainly, the apes have an ancestor that would be described as a "monkey".
Haplorrhines
The Haplorrhines, or suborder Haplorrhini, is made up of the infraorders "Simiiformes" and "Tarsiiformes", or tarsiers. Along with Strepsirrhini, which includes the more divergent primates such as lemurs and lorises, it makes up the group primates.
The Point
My purpose in starting this thread is not to debate human origins. I am not a primatologist, and as far as the vertebrates go, I think the only group I have less interest in are sheep. I do not definitively "know" if this phylogeny is correct - everything in science is always subject to change. However, if people are going to discuss human evolution, I feel it that they will be best able to deny ignorance, wherever they find it, if they know what we are actually said to have evolved from. We can be said to have evolved from a primate, we can be said to have evolved from a monkey, we can be said to have evolved from an ape, we can be said to have evolved from a great ape, and we can be said to have evolved from an african ape.
We cannot, however, be said to have evolved from any modern species of any of these any more than they can be said to have evolved from us.
We are Homo sapiens, a homonin, homonid, hominoid, catarrhine, simian, haplorrhine primate.
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Having spent under a month haunting this particular forum, it has come to my attention that a lot of arguments concerning the validity of "the theory of evolution" are actually based on a specific evolutionary hypothesis concerning human origins, namely that we are a member of the goup "primates", also including the great and lesser apes, old world and new world monkeys, lemurs, tarsiers, and so on.
While the body of evidence supporting this particular hypothesis is sufficient to convince me that it is true, that is not my concern here. Rather, I have noticed that a good many people, on both sides of the "evolutionist" argument, are misrepresenting our (hypothesized) position within the primates. I intend to rectify this.
A Couple Of Words on Phylogeny
Just so you know what I'm talking about, there are a couple of terms that will need to be explained: First off, "monophyly" and "paraphyly". If a term - for example, "monkey" is to be treated as monophyletic, it has to include all descendants of the most recent common ancestor of all groups described as monkeys. If it does not, it is considered to be "polyphyletic", which effectively makes it biologically invalid.
As a less obscure example, imagine a group of people known by the name of "The Smith-Joneses", who all share one great-great grandmother. For the term to be monophyletic, everyone descended from this great-great grandmother must be included in the group known as "the Smith-Joneses". If those who have, for example, married and changed their names, are not included, "the Smith-Joneses" becomes polyphyletic
Another issue is with the levels of phylogeny. Basically, every organism exists within a species, within a genus, within a family, within an order, within a class, within a phylum, within a kingdom, within a domain.
Because evolution doesn't tend to happen in neat, regular units, a number of intermediate "clades" are added - those above gain the prefix "super-", and those below gain either "Sub-", "Infra-" or "Parv" - giving us such terms as parvorders within infraorders within suborders within orders within superorders, et cetera. The term "tribe", although not used here, is employed to describe a group between subfamily and genus.
What we are
Homonins
Homo sapiens - that's us - are in the subfamily Homoninae. Also within the Homoninae are the African Great apes - that is, members of the genus Pan (chimps and bonobos), and, at the base of the group, members of the genus Gorilla.
Assuming the arrangement of the groups within the hominins is correct - with gorillas splitting off before chimps and humans diverged - the term "african apes", to be monophyletic, would include humans. Our ancestry, at any rate, is considered to be with the group "african apes".
That is not to say that we evolved from chimpanzees, or that they evolved from gorillas. While the common ancestor was an african ape, it would not be considered the same species as any one of the modern species.
Homonids
Homonids, or "great apes", describes the members of the family Homonidae. Within this group are the subfamilies "Homoninae" and "Ponginae". "Ponginae" currently includes only the genus "Pongo", the Orangutans.
To be monophyletic, as such, "great apes", including chimps, bonobos, gorillas and orangutans, must also include humans.
Hominoids
Hominoids, or "apes" describes members of the superfamily Hominoidea. Within this group are the families "Homonidae" - the great apes - and "Hylobatidae" - the gibbons, or "lesser apes". To be monophyletic, therefore, "Apes" must include not only gibbons, orangutans, chimps, bonobos and gorillas, but also ourselves.
Catarrhines
The parvorder Catarrhini contains two groups - the previously discussed Hominoidea, and the Cercopithecoidea, or old world monkeys - old world monkeys describing the - mostly tailed - monkeys native to Africa and Asia.
Simian
The infraorder Simiiformes, or simians, describes the "ape-like" primates, consisting of the two parvorders "Catarrhini" and "Platyrrhini (the new world monkeys).
What this means is that the two lineages currently known as "Monkeys" diverged before the old world monkeys separated from the apes.
What this, in turn, means is that "monkeys", from an evolutionary perspective, includes the apes. Certainly, the apes have an ancestor that would be described as a "monkey".
Haplorrhines
The Haplorrhines, or suborder Haplorrhini, is made up of the infraorders "Simiiformes" and "Tarsiiformes", or tarsiers. Along with Strepsirrhini, which includes the more divergent primates such as lemurs and lorises, it makes up the group primates.
The Point
My purpose in starting this thread is not to debate human origins. I am not a primatologist, and as far as the vertebrates go, I think the only group I have less interest in are sheep. I do not definitively "know" if this phylogeny is correct - everything in science is always subject to change. However, if people are going to discuss human evolution, I feel it that they will be best able to deny ignorance, wherever they find it, if they know what we are actually said to have evolved from. We can be said to have evolved from a primate, we can be said to have evolved from a monkey, we can be said to have evolved from an ape, we can be said to have evolved from a great ape, and we can be said to have evolved from an african ape.
We cannot, however, be said to have evolved from any modern species of any of these any more than they can be said to have evolved from us.
We are Homo sapiens, a homonin, homonid, hominoid, catarrhine, simian, haplorrhine primate.
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7 December 2014 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on Darcy Stoddard's post.
Proper good, thank You! : )
am wish am would have resource to get some to my mother..
am wish am would have resource to get some to my mother..
7 December 2014 19:14
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's link.
I heard many gangs also have killed unarmed man in a past years, and in some part of worl, even fully armed soldier killed humans who had no guns at all
7 December 2014 03:48
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's post.
What has this to do wit science :D
it is all creation :p
it is all creation :p
7 December 2014 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on Maverick John Viator's post.
aa if police does it is is sad and if punks do it on street against police then ..
7 December 2014 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on Cristy Buico's photo.
You are really nice here : )
7 December 2014 03:36
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
Amazing mind war... real people and real protesters and millions of people starv and get killed.. put people protest and riot about a guy who got shoot for stealing alcohol and sigarettes and then top of that did not obey to police
7 December 2014 03:35
Margus Meigo commented on Marelle Nõmm's post.
meestel ka kanni kohupeal.. kuid ikkagi see nagu lapsel plastikauto ...
7 December 2014 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
mis tulevad siis meie ouele kaklema
7 December 2014 03:28
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Scholz's photo.
Amazing u are : )
7 December 2014 03:01
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's link.
Really nice!
Even tho artistic a bit
Even tho artistic a bit
7 December 2014 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Nu mul plaan jõuda sinna lahiajal,
7 December 2014 02:29
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
see on ka suts kreepi, et piiblis 66 raamatut ja täis aasta on ka 366 päeva (tava aasta 365..) .. ja et minutite ja sekundite teema on 60... ja peake kuundat eluaastat surutakse kooli .. ja ma parem ei hakka yles otsimagi .. aga ikka pidin.. miks kyll:
. ja arvatakse, et kuuendal aastal olevat viimane aeg olnud kui jessus syndinud oli, kuigi see suts segane, et me siis tegelt.. aastas 2008 praegu, et siis aega maa lopuni kyll.. aa nu see kust see 2020 jutud vist tulid..
Ja siis kui oli aasta kuus oli heebria kalendris 3766...
Igatahes, meil ikka üks vanemaid kalendreid, praegu 10227 vist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkBYuAFO4Eo
. ja arvatakse, et kuuendal aastal olevat viimane aeg olnud kui jessus syndinud oli, kuigi see suts segane, et me siis tegelt.. aastas 2008 praegu, et siis aega maa lopuni kyll.. aa nu see kust see 2020 jutud vist tulid..
Ja siis kui oli aasta kuus oli heebria kalendris 3766...
Igatahes, meil ikka üks vanemaid kalendreid, praegu 10227 vist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkBYuAFO4Eo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkBYuAFO4Eo
6 December 2014 23:12
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
kuues ju.. mis sa siis arvasid..
6 December 2014 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.facebook.com/Violet4Nova/posts/10203636256721742
6 December 2014 02:10
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Liisa Sarapik's post.
Nu vahemalt me pole paris siinmaal veel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzSIQxc_KqE
Tervist ikka tervist :)
Tervist ikka tervist :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzSIQxc_KqE
6 December 2014 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
well.. it is all rooted in a greek thinking innit.. lack of proper hebrew religion and world view
6 December 2014 01:34
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
ma ei moista
6 December 2014 01:31
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's post.
Turkey Identity
6 December 2014 01:24
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Pane kohe siis Eesti asjad tuksuma südames, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W6i8iFcnkY&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX&index=9 et ega Sa enne ju välismaalasena ei teadnud tunnetada... :P
..sisseränduri tütar keegi kunagi ikka ütleb, siis laiata.. :D...
..sisseränduri tütar keegi kunagi ikka ütleb, siis laiata.. :D...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W6i8iFcnkY&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX&index=9
6 December 2014 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Kas nad oma formid olid eesti keelseks saanud tolkida lopuks v?
Kunagi kaisid siis anti sulle paberid mis võõrkeeles ja siis polnutki voimalik neid täita, ja pastakte puudus oli ka ::D
Kunagi kaisid siis anti sulle paberid mis võõrkeeles ja siis polnutki voimalik neid täita, ja pastakte puudus oli ka ::D
6 December 2014 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Jeerum, pea 30 aastat
6 December 2014 01:16
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
or hippy or religious or elderly or
6 December 2014 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
Jwwwwi, Tervis Tasakaal
6 December 2014 01:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
And in here.. no need to even make Cross referance..
When he comes to me I am ready
I’ll wash his feet with my hair if he needs
Forgive him when his tongue lies through his brain
Even after three times he betrays me
I’ll bring him down, bring him down, down
A king with no crown, king with no crown
[Chorus]
I’m just a Holy Fool, oh baby he’s so cruel
But I’m still in love with Judas, baby
I’m just a Holy Fool, oh baby he’s so cruel
But I’m still in love with Judas, baby
Ohohohoh
I’m in love with Judas
Ohohohoh
I’m in love with Judas
Judas! Judaas Judas! Judaas
Judas! Judaas Judas! GAGA
I couldn’t love a man so purely
Even prophets forgave his crooked way
I’ve learned love is like a brick you can
Build a house or sink a dead body
I’ll bring him down, bring him down, down
A king with no crown, king with no crown
[Chorus]
I’m just a Holy Fool, oh baby he’s so cruel
But I’m still in love with Judas, baby
I’m just a Holy Fool, oh baby he’s so cruel
But I’m still in love with Judas, baby
Ohohohoh
I’m in love with Judas
Ohohohoh
I’m in love with Judas
[Bridge]
Ew
In the most Biblical sense,
I am beyond repentance
Fame hooker, prostitute wench, vomits her mind
But in the cultural sense
I just speak in future tense
Judas, kiss me if offenced,
Or wear an ear condom next time
I wanna love you,
But something’s pulling me away from you
Jesus is my virtue,
Judas is the demon I cling to
I cling to
[Chorus]
I’m just a Holy Fool, oh baby he’s so cruel
But I’m still in love with Judas, baby
I’m just a Holy Fool, oh baby he’s so cruel
But I’m still in love with Judas, baby
Ohohohoh
I’m in love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagn8Wrmzuc
GaGa is not really holding back on multi dimensional deep interpetations of no-go arias of what even priests keep away, publicly.
Have to meditate on it more but..
When he comes to me I am ready
I’ll wash his feet with my hair if he needs
Forgive him when his tongue lies through his brain
Even after three times he betrays me
I’ll bring him down, bring him down, down
A king with no crown, king with no crown
[Chorus]
I’m just a Holy Fool, oh baby he’s so cruel
But I’m still in love with Judas, baby
I’m just a Holy Fool, oh baby he’s so cruel
But I’m still in love with Judas, baby
Ohohohoh
I’m in love with Judas
Ohohohoh
I’m in love with Judas
Judas! Judaas Judas! Judaas
Judas! Judaas Judas! GAGA
I couldn’t love a man so purely
Even prophets forgave his crooked way
I’ve learned love is like a brick you can
Build a house or sink a dead body
I’ll bring him down, bring him down, down
A king with no crown, king with no crown
[Chorus]
I’m just a Holy Fool, oh baby he’s so cruel
But I’m still in love with Judas, baby
I’m just a Holy Fool, oh baby he’s so cruel
But I’m still in love with Judas, baby
Ohohohoh
I’m in love with Judas
Ohohohoh
I’m in love with Judas
[Bridge]
Ew
In the most Biblical sense,
I am beyond repentance
Fame hooker, prostitute wench, vomits her mind
But in the cultural sense
I just speak in future tense
Judas, kiss me if offenced,
Or wear an ear condom next time
I wanna love you,
But something’s pulling me away from you
Jesus is my virtue,
Judas is the demon I cling to
I cling to
[Chorus]
I’m just a Holy Fool, oh baby he’s so cruel
But I’m still in love with Judas, baby
I’m just a Holy Fool, oh baby he’s so cruel
But I’m still in love with Judas, baby
Ohohohoh
I’m in love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagn8Wrmzuc
GaGa is not really holding back on multi dimensional deep interpetations of no-go arias of what even priests keep away, publicly.
Have to meditate on it more but..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagn8Wrmzuc
5 December 2014 22:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
..and on the message of the video (we will be back and get these pirates ) ..and look at the Cross... on airring..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2smz_1L2_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2smz_1L2_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2smz_1L2_0
5 December 2014 22:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
On the sound and
We are the crowd
We're coming out
Got my flash on it's true
Need that picture of you
It's so magical
We'd be so fantastic, oh
Leather and jeans
Garage glamorous
Not sure what it means
But this photo of us
It don't have a price
Ready for those flashing lights
'Cause you know that baby I
I'm your biggest fan
I'll follow you until you love me
Papa-Paparazzi
Baby there's no other superstar
You know that I'll be your
Papa-Paparazzi
Promise I'll be kind
But I won't stop until that boy is mine
Baby you'll be famous
Chase you down until you love me
Papa-Paparazzi
I'll be your girl backstage at your show
Velvet ropes and guitars
Yeah cause you're my rock star in between the sets
Eyeliner and cigarettes
Shadow is burnt, yellow dance and return
My lashes are dry - purple teardrops I cry
It don't have a price
Loving you is Cherry Pie
'Cause you know that baby I
I'm your biggest fan
I'll follow you until you love me
Papa-Paparazzi
Baby there's no other superstar
You know that I'll be your
Papa-Paparazzi
Promise I'll be kind
But I won't stop until that boy is mine
Baby you'll be famous
Chase you down until you love me
Papa-paparazzi
Real good, We're dancing in the studio
Snap, snap, to that shit on the radio
Don't stop, for anyone
We're plastic but we still have fun
I'm your biggest fan
I'll follow you until you love me
Papa-Paparazzi
Baby there's no other superstar
You know that I'll be your
Papa-Paparazzi
Promise I'll be kind
But I won't stop until that boy is mine
Baby you'll be famous
Chase you down until you love me
Papa-paparazzi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP8SrlbpJ5A
We are the crowd
We're coming out
Got my flash on it's true
Need that picture of you
It's so magical
We'd be so fantastic, oh
Leather and jeans
Garage glamorous
Not sure what it means
But this photo of us
It don't have a price
Ready for those flashing lights
'Cause you know that baby I
I'm your biggest fan
I'll follow you until you love me
Papa-Paparazzi
Baby there's no other superstar
You know that I'll be your
Papa-Paparazzi
Promise I'll be kind
But I won't stop until that boy is mine
Baby you'll be famous
Chase you down until you love me
Papa-Paparazzi
I'll be your girl backstage at your show
Velvet ropes and guitars
Yeah cause you're my rock star in between the sets
Eyeliner and cigarettes
Shadow is burnt, yellow dance and return
My lashes are dry - purple teardrops I cry
It don't have a price
Loving you is Cherry Pie
'Cause you know that baby I
I'm your biggest fan
I'll follow you until you love me
Papa-Paparazzi
Baby there's no other superstar
You know that I'll be your
Papa-Paparazzi
Promise I'll be kind
But I won't stop until that boy is mine
Baby you'll be famous
Chase you down until you love me
Papa-paparazzi
Real good, We're dancing in the studio
Snap, snap, to that shit on the radio
Don't stop, for anyone
We're plastic but we still have fun
I'm your biggest fan
I'll follow you until you love me
Papa-Paparazzi
Baby there's no other superstar
You know that I'll be your
Papa-Paparazzi
Promise I'll be kind
But I won't stop until that boy is mine
Baby you'll be famous
Chase you down until you love me
Papa-paparazzi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP8SrlbpJ5A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP8SrlbpJ5A
5 December 2014 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Some refference on On the edge of Glory about fire and Name... hmm../ more of the sound then words here.
There ain't no reason you and me should be alone tonight
Yeah baby, tonight, yeah baby
I got a reason that you
Who should take me home tonight
I need a man that thinks it's right when it's all wrong tonight
Yeah baby, tonight, yeah baby
Right on the limit where we know
We both belong tonight
It's hard to feel the rush
To brush the dangerous
I'm gonna run right to, to the edge with you
Where we can both fall far in love
I'm on the edge of glory
And I'm hanging on a moment of truth
Out on the edge of glory
And I'm hanging on a moment with you
I'm on the edge, the edge, the edge,the edge
The edge, the edge, the edge
I'm on the edge of glory
And I'm hanging on a moment with you
I'm on the edge with you
Another shot before we kiss the other side
Tonight, yeah baby, tonight, yeah baby
I'm on the edge of something final
We call life tonight, alright, alright
Put on your shades 'cause I'll be dancing in the flames
Tonight, yeah baby, tonight, yeah baby
It isn't hell if everybody knows my name
Tonight, alright, alright
It's hard to feel the rush
To brush the dangerous
I'm gonna run right to, to the edge with you
Where we can both fall far in love
I'm on the edge of glory
And I'm hanging on a moment of truth
Out on the edge of glory
And I'm hanging on a moment with you
I'm on the edge, the edge, the edge
The edge, the edge, the edge, the edge
I'm on the edge of glory
And I'm hanging on a moment with you
I'm on the edge with you
I'm on the edge with you
I'm on the edge with you
I'm on the edge of glory
And I'm hanging on a moment of truth
Out on the edge of glory, and I'm hanging on a moment with you
I'm on the edge, the edge, the edge
The edge, the edge, the edge, the edge
I'm on the edge of glory
And I'm hanging on a moment with you
I'm on the edge with you
With you, with you, with you, with you
I'm on the edge with you
With you, with you, with you, with you
Read more: Lady GaGa - Edge Of Glory Lyrics | MetroLyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8paIkN8W48
There ain't no reason you and me should be alone tonight
Yeah baby, tonight, yeah baby
I got a reason that you
Who should take me home tonight
I need a man that thinks it's right when it's all wrong tonight
Yeah baby, tonight, yeah baby
Right on the limit where we know
We both belong tonight
It's hard to feel the rush
To brush the dangerous
I'm gonna run right to, to the edge with you
Where we can both fall far in love
I'm on the edge of glory
And I'm hanging on a moment of truth
Out on the edge of glory
And I'm hanging on a moment with you
I'm on the edge, the edge, the edge,the edge
The edge, the edge, the edge
I'm on the edge of glory
And I'm hanging on a moment with you
I'm on the edge with you
Another shot before we kiss the other side
Tonight, yeah baby, tonight, yeah baby
I'm on the edge of something final
We call life tonight, alright, alright
Put on your shades 'cause I'll be dancing in the flames
Tonight, yeah baby, tonight, yeah baby
It isn't hell if everybody knows my name
Tonight, alright, alright
It's hard to feel the rush
To brush the dangerous
I'm gonna run right to, to the edge with you
Where we can both fall far in love
I'm on the edge of glory
And I'm hanging on a moment of truth
Out on the edge of glory
And I'm hanging on a moment with you
I'm on the edge, the edge, the edge
The edge, the edge, the edge, the edge
I'm on the edge of glory
And I'm hanging on a moment with you
I'm on the edge with you
I'm on the edge with you
I'm on the edge with you
I'm on the edge of glory
And I'm hanging on a moment of truth
Out on the edge of glory, and I'm hanging on a moment with you
I'm on the edge, the edge, the edge
The edge, the edge, the edge, the edge
I'm on the edge of glory
And I'm hanging on a moment with you
I'm on the edge with you
With you, with you, with you, with you
I'm on the edge with you
With you, with you, with you, with you
Read more: Lady GaGa - Edge Of Glory Lyrics | MetroLyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8paIkN8W48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8paIkN8W48
5 December 2014 22:38
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
This is really good one
But it does take a belief...
But it does take a belief...
5 December 2014 21:42
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's link.
"... the tie color.. purple"
Thank you for that, will mark it to my notes
Thank you for that, will mark it to my notes
5 December 2014 21:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Whenever I'm dressed cool my parents put up a fight
And if I'm hot shot, mom will cut my hair at night
And in the morning I'm short of my identity
I scream, "Mom and dad, why can't I be who I wanna be, to be?"
I just wanna be myself and I want you to love
Me for who I am
I just wanna be myself and I want you to know
I am my hair
I've had enough, this is my prayer
That I'll die livin' just as free as my hair
I've had enough, this is my prayer
That I'll die livin' just as free as my hair
I've had enough, I'm not a freak
I just keep fightin' to stay cool on the streets
I've had enough, enough, enough
And this is my prayer, I swear
I'm as free as my hair
I'm as free as my hair
I am my hair
I am my hair
Free as my hai-ai-air
Hai-ai-air, hair
Free as my hai-ai-air
Hai-ai-air, hai-ai-air
Sometimes I want some raccoon or red highlights
Just because I want my friends to think I'm dynamite
And on Friday, Rock City High School dance
I've got my bangs to hide that I don't stand a chance, a chance
I just wanna be myself and I want you to love
Me for who I am
I just wanna be myself and I want you to know
I am my hair
I've had enough, this is my prayer
That I'll die livin' just as free as my hair
I've had enough, this is my prayer
That I'll die livin' just as free as my hair
I've had enough, I'm not a freak
I just keep fightin' to stay cool on the streets
I've had enough, enough, enough
And this is my prayer, I swear
I'm as free as my hair
I'm as free as my hair
I am my hair
I am my hair
Free as my hai-ai-air
Hai-ai-air, hair
Free as my hai-ai-air
Hai-ai-air, hai-ai-airr
I just want to be free, I just want to be me
And I want lots of friends that invite me to their parties
Don't want to change and I don't want to be ashamed
I'm the spirit of my hair, it's all the glory that I bear
I'm my hair, I am my hair
I'm my hair, I am my hair
I am my hair, I am my hair, I am my hair
It's all the glory that I bear
I'm my hair, I am my hair
It's all the glory that I bear
I'm my hair, I am my hair
I'm my hair, yeah, yeah
It's all the glory that I bear
I'm my hair, yeah, yeah
It's all the glory that I bear
I'm my hair, yeah, yeah
It's all the glory that I bear
I'm my hair, yeah, yeah
I've had enough, this is my prayer
That I'll die livin' just as free as my hair
I've had enough, this is my prayer
That I'll die livin' just as free as my hair
I've had enough, I'm not a freak
I just keep fightin' to stay cool on the streets
I've had enough, enough, enough
And this is my prayer, I swear
I'm as free as my hair
I'm as free as my hair
I am my hair, I am my hair
Ooh, I'm my hair, I'm my hair
Read more: Lady GaGa - Hair Lyrics | MetroLyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i8AUbyPfb0
And if I'm hot shot, mom will cut my hair at night
And in the morning I'm short of my identity
I scream, "Mom and dad, why can't I be who I wanna be, to be?"
I just wanna be myself and I want you to love
Me for who I am
I just wanna be myself and I want you to know
I am my hair
I've had enough, this is my prayer
That I'll die livin' just as free as my hair
I've had enough, this is my prayer
That I'll die livin' just as free as my hair
I've had enough, I'm not a freak
I just keep fightin' to stay cool on the streets
I've had enough, enough, enough
And this is my prayer, I swear
I'm as free as my hair
I'm as free as my hair
I am my hair
I am my hair
Free as my hai-ai-air
Hai-ai-air, hair
Free as my hai-ai-air
Hai-ai-air, hai-ai-air
Sometimes I want some raccoon or red highlights
Just because I want my friends to think I'm dynamite
And on Friday, Rock City High School dance
I've got my bangs to hide that I don't stand a chance, a chance
I just wanna be myself and I want you to love
Me for who I am
I just wanna be myself and I want you to know
I am my hair
I've had enough, this is my prayer
That I'll die livin' just as free as my hair
I've had enough, this is my prayer
That I'll die livin' just as free as my hair
I've had enough, I'm not a freak
I just keep fightin' to stay cool on the streets
I've had enough, enough, enough
And this is my prayer, I swear
I'm as free as my hair
I'm as free as my hair
I am my hair
I am my hair
Free as my hai-ai-air
Hai-ai-air, hair
Free as my hai-ai-air
Hai-ai-air, hai-ai-airr
I just want to be free, I just want to be me
And I want lots of friends that invite me to their parties
Don't want to change and I don't want to be ashamed
I'm the spirit of my hair, it's all the glory that I bear
I'm my hair, I am my hair
I'm my hair, I am my hair
I am my hair, I am my hair, I am my hair
It's all the glory that I bear
I'm my hair, I am my hair
It's all the glory that I bear
I'm my hair, I am my hair
I'm my hair, yeah, yeah
It's all the glory that I bear
I'm my hair, yeah, yeah
It's all the glory that I bear
I'm my hair, yeah, yeah
It's all the glory that I bear
I'm my hair, yeah, yeah
I've had enough, this is my prayer
That I'll die livin' just as free as my hair
I've had enough, this is my prayer
That I'll die livin' just as free as my hair
I've had enough, I'm not a freak
I just keep fightin' to stay cool on the streets
I've had enough, enough, enough
And this is my prayer, I swear
I'm as free as my hair
I'm as free as my hair
I am my hair, I am my hair
Ooh, I'm my hair, I'm my hair
Read more: Lady GaGa - Hair Lyrics | MetroLyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i8AUbyPfb0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i8AUbyPfb0
5 December 2014 17:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
In your brown eyes, walked away
In your brown eyes, couldn't stay
In your brown eyes, you watch her go
And turn the record on
And wonder what went wrong
What went wrong
If everything was everything
But everything is over
Everything could be everything
If only we were older
Guess it's just a silly song about you
And how I lost you
And your brown eyes
In your brown eyes, I was feeling low
'cause they're brown eyes and you never know
Got some brown eyes, but I saw her face
I knew that it was wrong
So baby, turn the record on
Play that song
Where everything was everything
But everything is over
Everything could be everything
If only we were older
Guess it's just a silly song about you
And how I lost you
And your brown eyes
Everything was everything
But baby it's the last show
Everything could be everything
But it's time to say goodbye so
Get your last fix, and your last hit
Grab your old girl with her new tricks
Honey yeah, it's no surprise
I got lost in your brown eyes
In your brown eyes
Brown, brown eyes
Your brown eyes
Brown, brown eyes
Got some brown eyes
Brown, brown eyes
Your brown eyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5caXbuZEY9Q
In your brown eyes, couldn't stay
In your brown eyes, you watch her go
And turn the record on
And wonder what went wrong
What went wrong
If everything was everything
But everything is over
Everything could be everything
If only we were older
Guess it's just a silly song about you
And how I lost you
And your brown eyes
In your brown eyes, I was feeling low
'cause they're brown eyes and you never know
Got some brown eyes, but I saw her face
I knew that it was wrong
So baby, turn the record on
Play that song
Where everything was everything
But everything is over
Everything could be everything
If only we were older
Guess it's just a silly song about you
And how I lost you
And your brown eyes
Everything was everything
But baby it's the last show
Everything could be everything
But it's time to say goodbye so
Get your last fix, and your last hit
Grab your old girl with her new tricks
Honey yeah, it's no surprise
I got lost in your brown eyes
In your brown eyes
Brown, brown eyes
Your brown eyes
Brown, brown eyes
Got some brown eyes
Brown, brown eyes
Your brown eyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5caXbuZEY9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5caXbuZEY9Q
5 December 2014 17:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"...akki on homme lukustatud me lugemissaal.."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxFCB41cEM&index=15&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxFCB41cEM&index=15&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NxFCB41cEM&index=15&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX
4 December 2014 17:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
old talk to ips.. not much to do with rest of it but just related nught.. to look in to later https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/fido7.ru.modem/zfzJ4xXn7Ls/NmISGTG-HVEJ
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/fido7.ru.modem/zfzJ4xXn7Ls/NmISGTG-HVEJ
4 December 2014 16:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://psiterror.ru/p/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?564.post
http://psiterror.ru/p/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?564.post
4 December 2014 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on Arley Gutierrez Long's post.
really nice jacket
3 December 2014 00:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-yRgFRyWNk&noredirect=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-yRgFRyWNk&noredirect=1
1 December 2014 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
piece am had told that years ago loads of huge hack business from russia has moved their IPs to hina.. as only thing better to mess with other is to mess and point to others when there is no need to take a responsibility :D
Or pehaps it is just a economical thing
Or pehaps it is just a economical thing
1 December 2014 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
that sounds like good government for me, as long they also provide guidance how to and what to hack why.
is that not the same with rest of them?
is that not the same with rest of them?
1 December 2014 20:21
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
can be, no competition known to me on these arias : )
1 December 2014 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
or just leader of letting people know what they do...
1 December 2014 20:19
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
yeah who else of europeans would meet a Qilins then Estoniaans :D
1 December 2014 20:12
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
in heart always
1 December 2014 20:12
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
for now jes
1 December 2014 20:12
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
if am would only have a confidence to hear that
Bud did have one lithuanian artist live from that section of music and this so good that meet a Qilin of some sort on coming night
Bud did have one lithuanian artist live from that section of music and this so good that meet a Qilin of some sort on coming night
1 December 2014 20:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
And he said to them, “Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.”
http://www.openbible.info/topics/money
www.openbible.info/topics/greed
http://www.openbible.info/topics/money
www.openbible.info/topics/greed
http://www.openbible.info/topics/money
1 December 2014 08:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Jeremiah 9:23-24
Thus says the LORD, "Let not a wise man boast of his wisdom, and let not the mighty man boast of his might, let not a rich man boast of his riches; but let him who boasts boast of this, that he understands and knows Me, that I am the LORD who exercises lovingkindness, justice and righteousness on earth; for I delight in these things," declares the LORD.
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Am Sorry : )
Thus says the LORD, "Let not a wise man boast of his wisdom, and let not the mighty man boast of his might, let not a rich man boast of his riches; but let him who boasts boast of this, that he understands and knows Me, that I am the LORD who exercises lovingkindness, justice and righteousness on earth; for I delight in these things," declares the LORD.
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Am Sorry : )
1 December 2014 08:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
1 Kings 3:11-14
God said to him, "Because you have asked this thing and have not asked for yourself long life, nor have asked riches for yourself, nor have you asked for the life of your enemies, but have asked for yourself discernment to understand justice, behold, I have done according to your words Behold, I have given you a wise and discerning heart, so that there has been no one like you before you, nor shall one like you arise after you. "I have also given you what you have not asked, both riches and honor, so that there will not be any among the kings like you all your days
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Thak You : )
God said to him, "Because you have asked this thing and have not asked for yourself long life, nor have asked riches for yourself, nor have you asked for the life of your enemies, but have asked for yourself discernment to understand justice, behold, I have done according to your words Behold, I have given you a wise and discerning heart, so that there has been no one like you before you, nor shall one like you arise after you. "I have also given you what you have not asked, both riches and honor, so that there will not be any among the kings like you all your days
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Thak You : )
1 December 2014 07:59
Margus Meigo commented on Shimon Dayan's post.
Group: Reformed Druids in Australia & New Zealand
will ever humans become so religiously pure again that are able to dance in nature naked ... as we was made.1 December 2014 07:02
Margus Meigo commented on Garage48's photo.
Looks like religious group, positive way!
30 November 2014 21:06
Margus Meigo commented on Garage48's photo.
god thinking for a app
30 November 2014 21:04
Margus Meigo commented on Garage48's photo.
Wau, see on paris hea!
30 November 2014 19:50
Margus Meigo commented on Garage48's photo.
Kenad inimesed
30 November 2014 19:49
Margus Meigo commented on Garage48's photo.
mis mottes neti.ee on F :p
30 November 2014 19:47
Margus Meigo commented on Garage48's photo.
Paris hea pilt!
30 November 2014 18:04
Margus Meigo commented on Garage48's photo.
peaaegu oleks saanud aga igast pealuud ja sarve m2rgid on suts kahtlased, et ega need asjad siis niisama siin ilmas pole .. :p
inimesed muidu timmid
inimesed muidu timmid
30 November 2014 18:03
Margus Meigo commented on Garage48's photo.
ara istu klaveri peal ohmu!, see kordades rohkem väärt kui see jubin mis Sul käes on, kestab ka kauen ja toimib paremini elektri vabalt :p
30 November 2014 18:02
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's link.
valimistel peaks olema eksm.. arusaamatu ikkagi kuidas enamus inimesed saavad hääletada asja poolt mille osas neil pole aimu kuidas ja miks hääletada tuleks, et saaks seda mida nad soovivad..
29 November 2014 23:51
Margus Meigo commented on Vladimir Gantsovski's link.
Uued joud kes meid vanade joudude juurde toovad uuesti.. taimed taimed taimed ja kes node taga ja sobrad..
26 November 2014 14:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yes ... and lets remind again: people choose this other kind of CFL instead of this
am not kidding, they really do (after reading the basic compareation of these two lights..)
Oh and wikipedia says normal light has 40 days,1000hrs of life, this is clearly wrong as basic cheap philipips lights 10x more, have 1y guarantee, atbasic lenght of life
am not kidding, they really do (after reading the basic compareation of these two lights..)
Oh and wikipedia says normal light has 40 days,1000hrs of life, this is clearly wrong as basic cheap philipips lights 10x more, have 1y guarantee, atbasic lenght of life
26 November 2014 14:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
26 November 2014 14:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
from my friend one of the higest spirit access tribe person am encoutered added note to this video:
"ananda bosman is abit fake, and by the way he is on syrian rue in videos, but still iliusonar he is making facts from others fake half scientific half fairytale mix of stories..no real spirit in him, i noticed him and these videos many years ago. now i think what does good job in wide range - real master shaman - hamilton souther."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8QA_avre_4
But am still have my own explenations and am really ... suspicious of people who have bold appearence when they are on special kind of life path.
"ananda bosman is abit fake, and by the way he is on syrian rue in videos, but still iliusonar he is making facts from others fake half scientific half fairytale mix of stories..no real spirit in him, i noticed him and these videos many years ago. now i think what does good job in wide range - real master shaman - hamilton souther."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8QA_avre_4
But am still have my own explenations and am really ... suspicious of people who have bold appearence when they are on special kind of life path.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8QA_avre_4
26 November 2014 13:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
am assume no one really gets the point of that before they go to the website, and try many many different words.. and then see how thee equal out.. and even then.. most will ask for some time *so what*
26 November 2014 13:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
as a bit red innit
26 November 2014 13:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
songs for slight counter swing, not in trully in it, but still worth a counter swing
26 November 2014 13:47
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's photo.
Oot allar gega sa pragu ei leidnud selle seene novembris ??
(seda mini koera ka paremal all nurgas märkasite v)
(seda mini koera ka paremal all nurgas märkasite v)
26 November 2014 13:47
Margus Meigo commented on Andrus Andrus's post.
soola ?
26 November 2014 03:34
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Lee's photo.
what consience means _?
26 November 2014 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Lee's link.
and the one that is biggest of all gets to the top
26 November 2014 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Lee's link.
yes as one human universe affects the other ones...
26 November 2014 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Lee's link.
they should have more curadge of talking what dreaming is besides memory sufing theory..
26 November 2014 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Lee's link.
"They injected the mice with colored toxic proteins to see the system at work — when the mice were sleeping, these toxic proteins were removed from the brain twice as quickly" ... sickos
26 November 2014 02:44
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Lee's link.
this does still not explain of the people who do not sleep.. or dos it..
26 November 2014 02:42
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Lee's post.
Gunnar Kraps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUp9c2JoQFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUp9c2JoQFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUp9c2JoQFs
26 November 2014 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's link.
“But today he knows what freedom is and he will learn what kindness feels like and what it's like to not suffer any more.”
..HUmans...
just makes me wanna strangel someone .. Now he LEARNS what kindles feels like... then this someone knows what lack of oxygen feels like.
they talk like it was some angry bad beast that now angels come to save and show how good they are.. same species.. lets just hope this is not project for emotional manipulation as it is popular in last days... but these people handeling any living being like that, should be forced to spiritual healing... (what a good bookkeeping of last 50 years all 27 owners.. we even can not trace that for cars sometimes so well) ..
... but yeah fact is still, that animal was like that and they are still.. am my self have rided with elephants and camels and now think that was kind of lame of me..
..HUmans...
just makes me wanna strangel someone .. Now he LEARNS what kindles feels like... then this someone knows what lack of oxygen feels like.
they talk like it was some angry bad beast that now angels come to save and show how good they are.. same species.. lets just hope this is not project for emotional manipulation as it is popular in last days... but these people handeling any living being like that, should be forced to spiritual healing... (what a good bookkeeping of last 50 years all 27 owners.. we even can not trace that for cars sometimes so well) ..
... but yeah fact is still, that animal was like that and they are still.. am my self have rided with elephants and camels and now think that was kind of lame of me..
26 November 2014 02:09
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
just be careful of makng these hand sings... as it is bringing the forces along that are not so nice
26 November 2014 01:52
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
sorry about that... if you are emotionally maniopulated in to that it might be hurting to swallow that... you took the wrong side on that one.. and it was planned manipulation for future project by commie like people to remove last of your freedoms
thatswhy i am pissed.. that people so eays go with it
thatswhy i am pissed.. that people so eays go with it
26 November 2014 01:50
Margus Meigo commented on Al Jazeera English's link.
really police is the bad one ? Actually hes parents need to say they are sorry for having san like that that caused so much trouble. And explain why they was not able to grow chldren up like that they would not rob stores for addiction and attack these who come to stop him of loating and crime.
Get real people
this is all one mind manipualtion so you can not pay attention to the real crimes, real murders and real crime that is done by state, army and gansters, real gangsters i might add.
Real gansters would have shoot him on spot easy, same way in similar situations, nothing to do with race u rassist pricks
Get real people
this is all one mind manipualtion so you can not pay attention to the real crimes, real murders and real crime that is done by state, army and gansters, real gangsters i might add.
Real gansters would have shoot him on spot easy, same way in similar situations, nothing to do with race u rassist pricks
26 November 2014 01:49
Margus Meigo commented on Al Jazeera English's link.
this farrinton project is all organized and used and manipulated, can we not see or what? What kind of evil people would here attack police and state for their doing their job and shooting someone who was pure criminal acting, not even stealing food but something that is not needed,
this is pure evil or stupidity to take emotional side with killed one here,
police is a fictim here, seriouslly.
And my friends are anarchist, hippies and anti state revolutionists but this case here is just so pure clear cut manipulation ...
this is pure evil or stupidity to take emotional side with killed one here,
police is a fictim here, seriouslly.
And my friends are anarchist, hippies and anti state revolutionists but this case here is just so pure clear cut manipulation ...
26 November 2014 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on Al Jazeera English's link.
these people who protest about it are selfish rassist actually..
there are so many good people murdered every day and we make massive communist driven media campaing of kind a people who steal alcohol and sigarettes.
what is wrong people, can not see a truth ?
You are the bad rassist one if you take the black side here
there are so many good people murdered every day and we make massive communist driven media campaing of kind a people who steal alcohol and sigarettes.
what is wrong people, can not see a truth ?
You are the bad rassist one if you take the black side here
26 November 2014 01:42
Margus Meigo commented on Al Jazeera English's link.
most of us are oncontact all the time
26 November 2014 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on Tara Bell's post.
i leave all missspelling in just to show how emotionally disturbed i am
26 November 2014 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on Tara Bell's post.
THIS IS BOLLOX, evil emotion manipulated trick on people mind, all this Ferguson project.
This as NOTHING to do color you rassist people, nothing to do with bad police You ignorant (sorry Tara You are women, ya can be emotional.. this is for these behind general public manipulation with this project)
Think logically, there is EVERY freaking day killed AND murdered people by criminals AND by army, killed are proper house wifes, proper activists, religious and spiritual people and humans who contribute to the world.
This barely makes to the news.. just here nad there.. little bit.
BUt THEN there is one CRIMINAL person, NOT KNOWN to contribute to the world, in FACT he was kind of person who steals alcohol and cigarettes, IN FACT kind of person who is not even man enought to take responsibilty and face cop by addmiting. IN FACT kind of person so dumb that in country where you can get choot by touching police wrong HE went to jump about to the cop and run his mouth. IN FACT after he got shoot few times, instead getting smarter and giving up, stay still hands up.. he continnued and it is NORMAL in a way to get killed in situations like that, this is BASIC training of police from all kind of lunatics. THese kind of ganksters who would run a street and we would pray a god there would be some copper around.
So okey, lets say it was bad he got killed, lets even say he was avarage human not a criminal thug attacking police and not caring about a world (fking stealing shit from a store when people starve and need food, aashole)
WAS HE so important, more important then all these all other people who get killed every day, these journalists who knowingly doing good and putting their life on the line.. and who are dead in hundreds... there is just some storyes about it at best...
But about this guy there is entire freaking HUGE wikipedia page and internet has hundreds of thousands of news around the world, people rioting and attacking other people causing more crime.. fking idiots really.
Its SO CLEAR desing, same as they had in England where they used some criminal youth to stin up emotions and make hereo out of criminal who get killed by police.
What about REAL GOOD HUMANS who get killed by REAL DARK forces and bad police?
Instead being adult about we keep spinning more emotions and fake lies about the situation, this is stupid, dangerous, bad and evil on so many levels.
Aliens looking that pissing their pans OR cring their eyes out (depens of the race) about "ohh all these other things, mass poisoning food and water supplies, re programming kids by millitary computer games, ruing man sexualty by porn and homo propacanda and having huge child rape and slavery center.. all that is OK for them.. but THIS IS what they riot about .. THIS IS what makes them mad, sad and rage about.. "
... what hope and need this part of this species can have if we keep being manipulated so easy, seriouslly people and friends,
Hes parents SHOULD appoligy openly for having san like that and that they was not able to grow it up better (and maybe then blame a bit of state of their mistakes, why they was not able to grow him up to not act like a thug).
Instead they are turned in to a victim and police gets all the shit like is not shitty enought for them that they was forced to shoot dead a human. This was probabaly first time he was forced to kill someone as it is a FKING JOB in this world where people are not cured of criminallity.
And no one cares about that, selfish people.
There is a job to shoot nad prison them instead of curing they can not do that WE FKING CAN, with all the knowledge of drugs we waste, we could cure hundreds of criminals so they do not need to rob anyone or get stabed.
no .. instead we enjoy or joint like fking bevery hills or santa barbara high class and runn our mouth, instead of taking responsibilty of the world and start making it better not by throwing stnes but by curing, informing, help to stop wrong propacanda and ... meditate on it religiouslly for sake of God
This as NOTHING to do color you rassist people, nothing to do with bad police You ignorant (sorry Tara You are women, ya can be emotional.. this is for these behind general public manipulation with this project)
Think logically, there is EVERY freaking day killed AND murdered people by criminals AND by army, killed are proper house wifes, proper activists, religious and spiritual people and humans who contribute to the world.
This barely makes to the news.. just here nad there.. little bit.
BUt THEN there is one CRIMINAL person, NOT KNOWN to contribute to the world, in FACT he was kind of person who steals alcohol and cigarettes, IN FACT kind of person who is not even man enought to take responsibilty and face cop by addmiting. IN FACT kind of person so dumb that in country where you can get choot by touching police wrong HE went to jump about to the cop and run his mouth. IN FACT after he got shoot few times, instead getting smarter and giving up, stay still hands up.. he continnued and it is NORMAL in a way to get killed in situations like that, this is BASIC training of police from all kind of lunatics. THese kind of ganksters who would run a street and we would pray a god there would be some copper around.
So okey, lets say it was bad he got killed, lets even say he was avarage human not a criminal thug attacking police and not caring about a world (fking stealing shit from a store when people starve and need food, aashole)
WAS HE so important, more important then all these all other people who get killed every day, these journalists who knowingly doing good and putting their life on the line.. and who are dead in hundreds... there is just some storyes about it at best...
But about this guy there is entire freaking HUGE wikipedia page and internet has hundreds of thousands of news around the world, people rioting and attacking other people causing more crime.. fking idiots really.
Its SO CLEAR desing, same as they had in England where they used some criminal youth to stin up emotions and make hereo out of criminal who get killed by police.
What about REAL GOOD HUMANS who get killed by REAL DARK forces and bad police?
Instead being adult about we keep spinning more emotions and fake lies about the situation, this is stupid, dangerous, bad and evil on so many levels.
Aliens looking that pissing their pans OR cring their eyes out (depens of the race) about "ohh all these other things, mass poisoning food and water supplies, re programming kids by millitary computer games, ruing man sexualty by porn and homo propacanda and having huge child rape and slavery center.. all that is OK for them.. but THIS IS what they riot about .. THIS IS what makes them mad, sad and rage about.. "
... what hope and need this part of this species can have if we keep being manipulated so easy, seriouslly people and friends,
Hes parents SHOULD appoligy openly for having san like that and that they was not able to grow it up better (and maybe then blame a bit of state of their mistakes, why they was not able to grow him up to not act like a thug).
Instead they are turned in to a victim and police gets all the shit like is not shitty enought for them that they was forced to shoot dead a human. This was probabaly first time he was forced to kill someone as it is a FKING JOB in this world where people are not cured of criminallity.
And no one cares about that, selfish people.
There is a job to shoot nad prison them instead of curing they can not do that WE FKING CAN, with all the knowledge of drugs we waste, we could cure hundreds of criminals so they do not need to rob anyone or get stabed.
no .. instead we enjoy or joint like fking bevery hills or santa barbara high class and runn our mouth, instead of taking responsibilty of the world and start making it better not by throwing stnes but by curing, informing, help to stop wrong propacanda and ... meditate on it religiouslly for sake of God
26 November 2014 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
et hoiad silma peal, et oigeid teemasi aetaks :p
25 November 2014 22:54
Margus Meigo commented on Reigo Rannu's post.
jube mida loodusega teeme.. monitamine nii sygavalt..
25 November 2014 19:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.loyalbooks.com/book/Kingdom-of-God-is-within-you
http://www.loyalbooks.com/book/Kingdom-of-God-is-within-you
25 November 2014 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.loyalbooks.com/book/Cherry-Orchard-Anton-Chekhov
http://www.loyalbooks.com/book/Cherry-Orchard-Anton-Chekhov
25 November 2014 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Tõnismäe's photo.
kui ma kirjutaks *no comments* siis oleks ka see kommentaar ikkagi.
aaaga kus Helkur on ?
voi helkur aint norkadele... algajatele lenduritele
aaaga kus Helkur on ?
voi helkur aint norkadele... algajatele lenduritele
25 November 2014 19:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
yeah, do ya
25 November 2014 13:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
To know a way.. and still be so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdq5RUcJk-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdq5RUcJk-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdq5RUcJk-E
24 November 2014 23:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boFhHOjljs0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boFhHOjljs0
24 November 2014 23:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
go s well with a last video..
24 November 2014 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
But besides this rant, Ummmmmm Ummmmm.. soory, am know there is plan for everyone and hes plan is bigger for now then most of ours, so let him sing, he is what is needed, and did not really try to insult anything, just ... the energy can be used for other things.,. he had loads of people there.. did they get after lecture more closer to religion or spiritual healing or how to use magic mushrooms or how to love a women ?
24 November 2014 23:18
Margus Meigo commented on Vytautas Unsane's photo.
wait.. it IS from a movie ?
24 November 2014 23:15
Margus Meigo commented on Vytautas Unsane's photo.
ya look hard core, with a small bitterness.. almost for a movie.
24 November 2014 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's link.
this guy is so fantastic i must share it on my wall
24 November 2014 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
i know there was more then just a feet..
Look really similar to the elements that we ave here from floor to chair
Look really similar to the elements that we ave here from floor to chair
24 November 2014 19:44
Margus Meigo commented on Hallo, Kosmos!'s link.
Veel linke kellel huvi:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperborea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_Society
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_(occult_symbol)
oh ja veel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materialism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperborea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_Society
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_(occult_symbol)
oh ja veel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materialism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperborea
23 November 2014 20:50
Margus Meigo commented on Hallo, Kosmos!'s link.
Transendentaalne Ontoloogiline Absoluut :p
http://www.askelm.com/doctrine/d981127.htm (?) ja http://goo.gl/mRy4SL ...
ahjaa... ega meil siin muidu noid Anusi palju poleks tava tydrukutena.. :))
http://www.askelm.com/doctrine/d981127.htm (?) ja http://goo.gl/mRy4SL ...
ahjaa... ega meil siin muidu noid Anusi palju poleks tava tydrukutena.. :))
http://www.askelm.com/doctrine/d981127.htm
23 November 2014 19:35
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce W Clark's photo.
strange, told to me that can not
23 November 2014 19:03
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce W Clark's photo.
Polar Star should have enlighten him a bit more about what the Christ mindset means first of all.. but hey.. still one of the amazing man to keep in history
23 November 2014 19:02
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce W Clark's photo.
Well he did have understanding that there is a God but he run hes mouth a lot against religion specially Christianity on matters and from view points that show he was not so free from the one to be fooled and from to be used for fooling
23 November 2014 18:58
Margus Meigo commented on Gilbert Grondin's post.
like out from matrix
23 November 2014 18:50
Margus Meigo commented on Gilbert Grondin's link.
...jup.. they still use these heavy clumps of crawling machines to try to reach to other side... what a backward world the Other-sides might think..
23 November 2014 18:50
Margus Meigo commented on Gilbert Grondin's post.
lol they use stateliness to get messages from ET s hahahahahha
23 November 2014 18:48
Margus Meigo commented on Gilbert Grondin's link.
they still use rackets uh..
23 November 2014 18:47
Margus Meigo commented on Francisco Meza's photo.
am for moment think am was seeing genjix on the photo
23 November 2014 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on Carmen Lara's photo.
magination
23 November 2014 18:43
Margus Meigo commented on Gilbert Grondin's link.
Sumerians..
More questions about Roswell or any other matter _?
More questions about Roswell or any other matter _?
23 November 2014 18:42
Margus Meigo commented on Gilbert Grondin's post.
its like some people have still not read religion and wonder.. is there something out there..
23 November 2014 18:40
Margus Meigo commented on Gilbert Grondin's post.
can imagine the amount of kit cat one this magical cat takes
is he magical _
is he magical _
23 November 2014 18:35
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce W Clark's photo.
so what did he chose..
23 November 2014 18:34
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce W Clark's photo.
you and your privacy settings.. can not share that one :P
23 November 2014 18:34
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce W Clark's photo.
life
23 November 2014 18:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
chmon girl
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Rice
"As I said below, I quit being a Christian. I’m out. In the name of Christ, I refuse to be anti-gay. I refuse to be anti-feminist. I refuse to be anti-artificial birth control. I refuse to be anti-Democrat. I refuse to be anti-secular humanism. I refuse to be anti-science. I refuse to be anti-life. In the name of …Christ, I quit Christianity and being Christian. Amen."
... really.. how can you quit when it is impossible or no need to once you get it ? .. hmm strange still
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Rice
"As I said below, I quit being a Christian. I’m out. In the name of Christ, I refuse to be anti-gay. I refuse to be anti-feminist. I refuse to be anti-artificial birth control. I refuse to be anti-Democrat. I refuse to be anti-secular humanism. I refuse to be anti-science. I refuse to be anti-life. In the name of …Christ, I quit Christianity and being Christian. Amen."
... really.. how can you quit when it is impossible or no need to once you get it ? .. hmm strange still
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Rice
23 November 2014 17:37
Margus Meigo commented on Hallo, Kosmos!'s link.
Minut 6.. "inimokond peaks motlema hakkama kuidas planeedilt lahkuda..* .. jeah.. selle asemel, et normaalseks hakata :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJe5nQQyQ00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJe5nQQyQ00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJe5nQQyQ00
23 November 2014 13:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Vello Salo (kuni 1945. aastani Endel Vaher; sündinud 5. novembril 1925) on eesti katoliku vaimulik, teoloog (eksegeet), ajaloolane, literaat, tõlkija ja kirjastaja
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vello_Salo
http://www.ylikool.ee/et/13/vello_salo
Taaramaast Maarjamaaks, Preester Vello Salo: Iga ristiinimene on vabadusvõitleja
http://www.eestikirik.ee/preester-vello-salo-iga-ristiinimene-on-vabadusvoitleja/
vimeo.com/9493448 Pirita kloostri preester Vello Salo - "Religioon ja selle roll..
Jalgpall: http://soccernet.ee/vello-salo-koostoo-vaimu-on-kogu-maailmal-vaja
Kristlik televisioon: http://www.ektv.ee/est.uudised.php?uudis_id=332
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vello_Salo
http://www.ylikool.ee/et/13/vello_salo
Taaramaast Maarjamaaks, Preester Vello Salo: Iga ristiinimene on vabadusvõitleja
http://www.eestikirik.ee/preester-vello-salo-iga-ristiinimene-on-vabadusvoitleja/
vimeo.com/9493448 Pirita kloostri preester Vello Salo - "Religioon ja selle roll..
Jalgpall: http://soccernet.ee/vello-salo-koostoo-vaimu-on-kogu-maailmal-vaja
Kristlik televisioon: http://www.ektv.ee/est.uudised.php?uudis_id=332
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vello_Salo
23 November 2014 13:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Toomas Paul (sündinud 29. oktoobril 1939) on eesti vaimulik, teoloog, kiriku- ja kultuuriloolane, dr. theol.
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toomas_Paul#V.C3.A4lislingid
http://www.ylikool.ee/et/13/toomas_paul
http://arvamus.postimees.ee/2697540/toomas-paul-elu-voib-olla-ette-maaratud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJe5nQQyQ00 Hallo, Kosmos! sünnipäev, I osa ENE ERGMA, Toomas Paul
ja palju veel:
Vaata viki listi
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toomas_Paul#V.C3.A4lislingid
http://www.ylikool.ee/et/13/toomas_paul
http://arvamus.postimees.ee/2697540/toomas-paul-elu-voib-olla-ette-maaratud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJe5nQQyQ00 Hallo, Kosmos! sünnipäev, I osa ENE ERGMA, Toomas Paul
ja palju veel:
Vaata viki listi
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toomas_Paul#V.C3.A4lislingid
23 November 2014 13:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Einar Laigna (sündinud 8. juulil 1937 Tallinnas) on Eesti vaimulik ja ohvitser, traditsionalismi propageerija.
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einar_Laigna
Audio arhiivid *Olemine ja Olemasolemine*: http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=92%3Aolemine-ja-olemasolemine&catid=21%3Aarhiiv&Itemid=11
Einar Laigna järgi on religioon harmoniseerumine universumi korraga, mis pärineb universumivälisest allikast. Kultuur põhineb religioonil.
Kultuuri mõisteline edasiandmine toimib ainult eliidi puhul. Rahva hulgas säilitab seda kõige paremini rituaal. Traditsioon põhineb esivanemate autoriteedil, mitte ratsionaalsetel seletustel.
Arvamuste pluralism ja demokraatia on iseloomulik kultuuri allakäigule. Kõrgkultuur fikseerub lõplikesse vaidlustamatutesse formuleeringutesse, mis väljendavad tõde. Selle poliitiline väljendus on monarhia. Euroopa kultuuri kõrgaeg oli 13. sajand.
Korra ja kultuuri kaitsmiseks on vältimatu segadusekolded vägivallaga lämmatada. Seetõttu on rahva kaitsetahe kultuuri säilimiseks hädavajalik.
Kultuuri peab kehastama tugev riik impeerium. Niisugune impeerium sünnib Euroopa Liidust, kuid see laguneb, kuna on ehitatud valele alusele.
Inimese ja rahva identiteedi loob allumine sellele vaieldamatule, mis kogu rahvast ühendab. Eestlastel see puudub.
Laigna ülalnimetatud vaadete pärast on tema vastu ja demokraatia nimel välja astunud Ain Kaalep.
http://einarlaigna.weebly.com/
http://www.emic.kul.ee/tobias/sonum.html Oratooriumi sõnumist
http://www.ekspress.ee/Arhiiv/1999/5/Areen/Kaanelugu.html (Ulistus Kassidele)
http://www.ekspress.ee/Arhiiv/1999/18/Areen/Raamat.html Mõtlemine loob korra ja ilu: retsensioon Blaise Pascali teosele "Mõtted".
http://www.maaleht.ee/LEHT/2000/09/14/arvamus.html Talupoeg on kuningas: kommentaar.
http://www.maaleht.ee/LEHT/2000/12/29/inimesed.html Mõtleja Einar Laigna: Ise küsin, ise vastan
http://www.ekspress.ee/viewdoc/6C0973C2AA1EF507C2256FA10045D5BB Dresdeni holokaust.
http://kultuur.elu.ee/ke482_laigna.htm "Keda me kasvatame, kas küünikuid või riigikodanikke?
http://www.maaleht.ee/?page=&grupp=artikkel&artikkel=6525 Väärikusest ja demokraatiast.
Kaplinski, Jaan. Mõtteid ja märkmeid Einar Laignast. Jaan Kaplinski kodukiri, 9. märts 2001. http://jaan.kaplinski.com/opinions/koigeuuem.html
Kärmas, Mihkel. Preestrist eriuurija. Eesti Ekspress, 2001. http://www.ekspress.ee/Arhiiv/2001/07/Aosa/persoon1.html
Jürgen, Madis. Elu ühes päevas: Einar Laigna. Eesti Ekspress, 21. veebruar 2005. http://www.ekspress.ee/viewdoc/0802579F015D8C8AC2256FAF006B1BE1
Youtube: Demokraatia kool
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFj8VvEe9to
Nomme Raadio Arhiiv:
http://www.nommeraadio.ee/meediapank.php/Einar%20Laigna
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einar_Laigna
Audio arhiivid *Olemine ja Olemasolemine*: http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=92%3Aolemine-ja-olemasolemine&catid=21%3Aarhiiv&Itemid=11
Einar Laigna järgi on religioon harmoniseerumine universumi korraga, mis pärineb universumivälisest allikast. Kultuur põhineb religioonil.
Kultuuri mõisteline edasiandmine toimib ainult eliidi puhul. Rahva hulgas säilitab seda kõige paremini rituaal. Traditsioon põhineb esivanemate autoriteedil, mitte ratsionaalsetel seletustel.
Arvamuste pluralism ja demokraatia on iseloomulik kultuuri allakäigule. Kõrgkultuur fikseerub lõplikesse vaidlustamatutesse formuleeringutesse, mis väljendavad tõde. Selle poliitiline väljendus on monarhia. Euroopa kultuuri kõrgaeg oli 13. sajand.
Korra ja kultuuri kaitsmiseks on vältimatu segadusekolded vägivallaga lämmatada. Seetõttu on rahva kaitsetahe kultuuri säilimiseks hädavajalik.
Kultuuri peab kehastama tugev riik impeerium. Niisugune impeerium sünnib Euroopa Liidust, kuid see laguneb, kuna on ehitatud valele alusele.
Inimese ja rahva identiteedi loob allumine sellele vaieldamatule, mis kogu rahvast ühendab. Eestlastel see puudub.
Laigna ülalnimetatud vaadete pärast on tema vastu ja demokraatia nimel välja astunud Ain Kaalep.
http://einarlaigna.weebly.com/
http://www.emic.kul.ee/tobias/sonum.html Oratooriumi sõnumist
http://www.ekspress.ee/Arhiiv/1999/5/Areen/Kaanelugu.html (Ulistus Kassidele)
http://www.ekspress.ee/Arhiiv/1999/18/Areen/Raamat.html Mõtlemine loob korra ja ilu: retsensioon Blaise Pascali teosele "Mõtted".
http://www.maaleht.ee/LEHT/2000/09/14/arvamus.html Talupoeg on kuningas: kommentaar.
http://www.maaleht.ee/LEHT/2000/12/29/inimesed.html Mõtleja Einar Laigna: Ise küsin, ise vastan
http://www.ekspress.ee/viewdoc/6C0973C2AA1EF507C2256FA10045D5BB Dresdeni holokaust.
http://kultuur.elu.ee/ke482_laigna.htm "Keda me kasvatame, kas küünikuid või riigikodanikke?
http://www.maaleht.ee/?page=&grupp=artikkel&artikkel=6525 Väärikusest ja demokraatiast.
Kaplinski, Jaan. Mõtteid ja märkmeid Einar Laignast. Jaan Kaplinski kodukiri, 9. märts 2001. http://jaan.kaplinski.com/opinions/koigeuuem.html
Kärmas, Mihkel. Preestrist eriuurija. Eesti Ekspress, 2001. http://www.ekspress.ee/Arhiiv/2001/07/Aosa/persoon1.html
Jürgen, Madis. Elu ühes päevas: Einar Laigna. Eesti Ekspress, 21. veebruar 2005. http://www.ekspress.ee/viewdoc/0802579F015D8C8AC2256FAF006B1BE1
Youtube: Demokraatia kool
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFj8VvEe9to
Nomme Raadio Arhiiv:
http://www.nommeraadio.ee/meediapank.php/Einar%20Laigna
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einar_Laigna
23 November 2014 13:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
.(not ya dear)
Keep you in the dark
You know they all pretend
Keep you in the dark
And so it all began
Send in your skeletons
Sing as their bones go marching in again
They need you buried deep
The secrets that you keep are ever ready
Are you ready?
I'm finished making sense
Done pleading ignorance
That whole defense
Spinning infinity
Boy, the wheel is spinning me
It's never ending, never ending
Same old story
What if I say I'm not like the others?
What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
You're the pretender
What if I say that I will never surrender?
What if I say I'm not like the others?
What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
You're the pretender
What if I say that I'll never surrender?
In time or so I'm told
I'm just another soul for sale, oh well
The page is out of print, we are not permanent
We're temporary, temporary
Same old story
What if I say I'm not like the others?
What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
You're the pretender
What if I say that I'll never surrender?
What if I say I'm not like the others?
What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
You're the pretender
What if I say I will never surrender?
I'm the voice inside your head you refuse to hear
I'm the face that you have to face, mirrorin' your stare
I'm what's left, I'm what's right, I'm the enemy
I'm the hand that'll take you down, bring you to your knees
So who are you? Yeah, who are you?
Yeah, who are you? Yeah, who are you?
Keep you in the dark, you know they all pretend
What if I say I'm not like the others?
What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
You're the pretender
What if I say I will never surrender?
What if I say I'm not like the others?
What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
You're the pretender
What if I say that I'll never surrender?
What if I say you're not like the others?
(Keep you in the dark)
What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
(You know they all pretend)
You're the pretender
What if I say I will never surrender?
What if I say I'm not like the others?
(Keep you in the dark)
What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
(You know they all pretend)
You're the pretender
What if I say I will never surrender?
So who are you? Yeah, who are you?
Yeah, who are you?
Read more: Foo Fighters - The Pretender Lyrics | MetroLyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBjQ9tuuTJQ
Keep you in the dark
You know they all pretend
Keep you in the dark
And so it all began
Send in your skeletons
Sing as their bones go marching in again
They need you buried deep
The secrets that you keep are ever ready
Are you ready?
I'm finished making sense
Done pleading ignorance
That whole defense
Spinning infinity
Boy, the wheel is spinning me
It's never ending, never ending
Same old story
What if I say I'm not like the others?
What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
You're the pretender
What if I say that I will never surrender?
What if I say I'm not like the others?
What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
You're the pretender
What if I say that I'll never surrender?
In time or so I'm told
I'm just another soul for sale, oh well
The page is out of print, we are not permanent
We're temporary, temporary
Same old story
What if I say I'm not like the others?
What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
You're the pretender
What if I say that I'll never surrender?
What if I say I'm not like the others?
What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
You're the pretender
What if I say I will never surrender?
I'm the voice inside your head you refuse to hear
I'm the face that you have to face, mirrorin' your stare
I'm what's left, I'm what's right, I'm the enemy
I'm the hand that'll take you down, bring you to your knees
So who are you? Yeah, who are you?
Yeah, who are you? Yeah, who are you?
Keep you in the dark, you know they all pretend
What if I say I'm not like the others?
What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
You're the pretender
What if I say I will never surrender?
What if I say I'm not like the others?
What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
You're the pretender
What if I say that I'll never surrender?
What if I say you're not like the others?
(Keep you in the dark)
What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
(You know they all pretend)
You're the pretender
What if I say I will never surrender?
What if I say I'm not like the others?
(Keep you in the dark)
What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
(You know they all pretend)
You're the pretender
What if I say I will never surrender?
So who are you? Yeah, who are you?
Yeah, who are you?
Read more: Foo Fighters - The Pretender Lyrics | MetroLyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBjQ9tuuTJQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBjQ9tuuTJQ
21 November 2014 20:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_L4Rixya64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_L4Rixya64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_L4Rixya64
21 November 2014 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJDYI6jo98o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJDYI6jo98o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJDYI6jo98o
21 November 2014 20:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
kind of like k.p. after teens and before labels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkJZptg-iac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkJZptg-iac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkJZptg-iac
21 November 2014 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
...and as it worked well ..well.. to well in fact, with side effects of spiritual religious awareness it was agreed to not make this mistake again, and let people near the truth,, as it is to costly to shut them off and no amount of money helps at times.. and as money should rule according to a illusionary theory then we got a major trouble on the hands in a future that we to shy to come in terms with ourself.. so lets cut others off from it as well... just in case.. for lords sake..
21 November 2014 09:52
Margus Meigo replied to Debra Johnson's comment.
Its not a panorama duh!
21 November 2014 09:48
Margus Meigo commented on Jason Palmer's post.
she is hot, who is she
20 November 2014 00:07
Margus Meigo commented on Traven West's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
does this guy only have like one look ?19 November 2014 20:10
Margus Meigo commented on Traven West's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
Good one Boris Belenkiy >D19 November 2014 20:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
Yeah in past people also think that you can not enter in to other people body or that your intentions are private..19 November 2014 19:59
Margus Meigo commented on Yitro Inwald's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
faking communists19 November 2014 19:56
Margus Meigo commented on Griffin Boyce's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
Allen Parker you pretty harsh on people just discovering world, ... take it easy, ... but comment made me smile anyway.
Still, more calmness with explorers, please :D19 November 2014 19:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
some people tripping out hard on these swedes am can see:D
(and just to tick some of am can add that anyone who runs their mouth against Christianity is actually of a lesser development then natural human)
whatever that meant
lol, is this guy fool of tattoos, just noticed, this is even more creepy from religious point of view :D19 November 2014 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
what IEEE standards the 70s those worked Felix Reitberger19 November 2014 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
Well you put it as it is >D
(still sorry about dogs and cats.. )19 November 2014 17:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
... do they even have to "pay off" someone..19 November 2014 17:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
the $10 million thing is something else... do they even deal in pennies like that _?19 November 2014 17:28
Margus Meigo commented on Rachael Tea's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
people just need to start doing stuff on-line that highest government needs, they will provide you with all the onions, drives and traffic clearance you need as long we do WHAT is needed.
They feel happy if You get some Katy Perry albums free from tor-ent if listening that helps you to make your Work what for you born to the planet.
Expose the bad - do not fight with it, alone at least before exposing..
we all struggle about the same, to figure out how to make sure we made world better before we close eyes in this world and open in another. As this is all that matters, did you Love ?
People kind of forget who made the internet, computers and networks and possibly for what. ... but to jump even step further from that, anyone who is still so low developed that is using computers... like my self, needs to work on the real connection of Nature that has all the networks in real alive mode so long time ago, that our toy computers here does not compute.
Just take some deep religious setting sided trips in nature with psychedelics.. and you know what they talking about..19 November 2014 16:40
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
Bolsheviks and Cigarettes still have more victims :p
19 November 2014 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's post.
19 November 2014 15:25
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's post.
19 November 2014 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on Rick Johnson's post.
Group: Linux Friends
how many of us has the mind and heart and inspiration to use all these tools for what is need19 November 2014 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1015323620093&set=a.1538241892723.2077795.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1015323620093&set=a.1538241892723.2077795.1135161043&type=3&theater
19 November 2014 13:22
Margus Meigo commented on David Cottrell's link.
Wonder how well these kind of episodes are taken in to account in books like that http://books.google.ee/books?id=9a5j_JL6cqIC&lpg=PR1&pg=PA317#v=onepage&q&f=false
There also has been times when Estonia send out large amounts of food as aid .. but some way it is all strange anyway to look in to past who eat what how much.. but still, good to remember when there is good things to remember
There also has been times when Estonia send out large amounts of food as aid .. but some way it is all strange anyway to look in to past who eat what how much.. but still, good to remember when there is good things to remember
http://books.google.ee/books?id=9a5j_JL6cqIC&lpg=PR1&pg=PA317#v=onepage&q&f=false
19 November 2014 08:55
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's photo.
susi again : ))
19 November 2014 08:35
Margus Meigo commented on Vladimir Gantsovski's link.
kind of like Boris bikes
19 November 2014 07:57
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's link.
yeah, so tips what should we do what matters so we can smile later _ ?
19 November 2014 07:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Tervisi Danielile ka
19 November 2014 07:27
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
Paris hea
19 November 2014 07:24
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
tosi kuid PEAAEGU iga kyljepeat igalajal..
19 November 2014 07:11
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
In short> http://biblehub.com/1_timothy/6-10.htm
In Long> http://www.gotquestions.org/love-money-root-evil.html
Muidugi viimases nad sutsu ka suplevad oma enda sonades, sest alguses ytlevad, et rikkusel poel viga midagi iseenesest ja siis, et
" No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money” (Matthew 6:24) "
Vb see umbes sama tasemel tehnoloogia, et kui tunnetus ei toimi siis kasutame mobiili, elektrot ja mobiil omakorda teeb kindlamaks, et tunnetus ei hakkaks toimima psyholoogiliselt ja fyysiliselt (sest tundub, et toimib juba,,,) ... ja need kes oskavad tunnetada neil pole motet kasutada elektroonikat sest nad peenemal tasemel juba tunnetavad ja suhtlevad...
JU siis papiga sama moodi, et see maailmaga suhtlemise tehnoloogia mille kasulikusesse peame uskuma
ja kui SELLESSE usume rohkem siis isegi kui teame, et papita voi tunnetamineamine peaks olema voimalik, teeb selle reaal ajas j2tkuva uskumise voimatumaks,
sest oleme oma maailma pildi ja gravitatsiooni fixeerinud selliselt,
et millegile mis nii vahene, andnud nii suure v22rtuse kaalu...
...ja ringiga tagasi algusesse joudes, kui papi omanikud uskuma panevad, et see on see mille kaudu, t2nu millele said asju... siis omakorda kui vaja nurka suruda saavad noudma tulla, et me nede selle tehnoloogia kaudu saime selle voi teise, seega neil oigus meie loominu voi toodangu kasutuse suhtes
mis on vb muidugi pollocs kui koige esimene varjant on tosi, Loomingu varjant, st et siis ka see mis Neil on, on neile samamoodi tulnud vordsest kohast,
lihtsalt nemad vahendasid ja neile vahendati *(kui nad uskusid, et nad ise ehitasid raha ja systeemid) neid meele pilte, energjaid ja reaalsusi teatud paketis,
kui see kui kaua aega vottis, kui raske oli saavutada ja mis nad arvavad v22rtus olema (inimese tegemise jargi ei saa ju kirjeldada v22rtust sest moni teeb paari naeratusega sadu millioneid ja moni kuuaega rygades eluohtlikult, paar sada...ja selle viimase inimese syda ja soovid isegi voivad vahest paremad olla),
seega sellel koigel (mida siin mateerias seletatakse raha ja tegemise resursi keeles) on suht v2he tegemist sellega mis ta Tegelt on (voi olla voib, usu maailmas), sest oleks voinud (ehk)ka koheselt koik inimestele vajalik juhtuda kui oleks osatud tuhande aasta asemel kaks minutit normaalselt maailmade ehitussysteemis koos opereerida,
Seega raha genereeriad, kui nad ise kvalad pole ja teadlikud, et nad ohust said seda mida ketravad, on siis ka ise enda petuskeemi ohvrid, kuid
In Long> http://www.gotquestions.org/love-money-root-evil.html
Muidugi viimases nad sutsu ka suplevad oma enda sonades, sest alguses ytlevad, et rikkusel poel viga midagi iseenesest ja siis, et
" No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money” (Matthew 6:24) "
Vb see umbes sama tasemel tehnoloogia, et kui tunnetus ei toimi siis kasutame mobiili, elektrot ja mobiil omakorda teeb kindlamaks, et tunnetus ei hakkaks toimima psyholoogiliselt ja fyysiliselt (sest tundub, et toimib juba,,,) ... ja need kes oskavad tunnetada neil pole motet kasutada elektroonikat sest nad peenemal tasemel juba tunnetavad ja suhtlevad...
JU siis papiga sama moodi, et see maailmaga suhtlemise tehnoloogia mille kasulikusesse peame uskuma
ja kui SELLESSE usume rohkem siis isegi kui teame, et papita voi tunnetamineamine peaks olema voimalik, teeb selle reaal ajas j2tkuva uskumise voimatumaks,
sest oleme oma maailma pildi ja gravitatsiooni fixeerinud selliselt,
et millegile mis nii vahene, andnud nii suure v22rtuse kaalu...
...ja ringiga tagasi algusesse joudes, kui papi omanikud uskuma panevad, et see on see mille kaudu, t2nu millele said asju... siis omakorda kui vaja nurka suruda saavad noudma tulla, et me nede selle tehnoloogia kaudu saime selle voi teise, seega neil oigus meie loominu voi toodangu kasutuse suhtes
mis on vb muidugi pollocs kui koige esimene varjant on tosi, Loomingu varjant, st et siis ka see mis Neil on, on neile samamoodi tulnud vordsest kohast,
lihtsalt nemad vahendasid ja neile vahendati *(kui nad uskusid, et nad ise ehitasid raha ja systeemid) neid meele pilte, energjaid ja reaalsusi teatud paketis,
kui see kui kaua aega vottis, kui raske oli saavutada ja mis nad arvavad v22rtus olema (inimese tegemise jargi ei saa ju kirjeldada v22rtust sest moni teeb paari naeratusega sadu millioneid ja moni kuuaega rygades eluohtlikult, paar sada...ja selle viimase inimese syda ja soovid isegi voivad vahest paremad olla),
seega sellel koigel (mida siin mateerias seletatakse raha ja tegemise resursi keeles) on suht v2he tegemist sellega mis ta Tegelt on (voi olla voib, usu maailmas), sest oleks voinud (ehk)ka koheselt koik inimestele vajalik juhtuda kui oleks osatud tuhande aasta asemel kaks minutit normaalselt maailmade ehitussysteemis koos opereerida,
Seega raha genereeriad, kui nad ise kvalad pole ja teadlikud, et nad ohust said seda mida ketravad, on siis ka ise enda petuskeemi ohvrid, kuid
http://biblehub.com/1_timothy/6-10.htm
19 November 2014 07:05
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
jup nothing to worry here, as soviets say there is no bad or good ... and that it is all in your mind *(heey am not wanting ALL of it in my mind.)
19 November 2014 06:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see vist mu koige moistetavam post ever siiani
18 November 2014 21:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
still there is at least the direction you shall keep in a good of what is reasons you want to be...
khm.. talking about vamps.. now am know what ticked me off a bit, intense intelligence anyway of using words
khm.. talking about vamps.. now am know what ticked me off a bit, intense intelligence anyway of using words
18 November 2014 17:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This video is from main stream high profile source about high profile innovation, done professional about old and new school tec.. in simple human language with a proof and 3000 views only :D good luck!
..but about CFL more *(the another light that WILL lose to god tech)
"Each CFL contains about five mg of mercury, enough to make 6,000 gallons of water toxic.
Mercury can causes brain and kidney damage in humans"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bbTTF857G8
Lol and one great ironic, source paced true post from ATS>
CFLs can be smart choices. Just be careful.
1. Isolate the site.
Get everyone out of the area. Open windows, leave the room, and close the door behind you. Turn off the heating or cooling system. Children and pregnant or nursing mothers should not return until cleanup is complete.
2. Air out the room for 5 to 15 minutes.
Give mercury vapor time to disperse and settle into tiny dust-like beads. Don't wait longer: mercury spreads easily.
3. Don safety gear.
Wear rubber gloves, safety (or other) glasses, work clothes and a dust mask or face covering when cleaning up the broken bulb.
4. Put large bulb pieces and other waste in a large glass jar with a screw-on metal lid, such as a Mason jar.
Scoop up glass fragments and dust with stiff paper or cardboard and deposit in the jar. Pat the area with sticky tape to collect tiny splinters and dust, then wipe with a damp cloth, baby wipe or moist paper towels. (Second choice: a plastic jar with a screw-on lid.)
5. Seal up the waste.
Put paper, cardboard, tape and wipes in the jar and close the lid. Throw away any contaminated fabrics, like clothing or bedding, that have come into direct contact with bulb fragments.
6. If a bulb breaks on a rug or carpeting:
Fabrics are harder to clean than hard surfaces; removing all mercury may be impossible. Hang a CFL-contaminated rug outside. Experts disagree on whether to vacuum carpeting. EPA recommends doing so and cleaning the vacuum afterward. Scientists with the Maine Department of Environmental Protection disagree: after testing various CLF cleanup scenarios [link], they concluded that vacuuming can spread mercury vapor and permanently contaminate the vacuum.
Keep infants, children and women of childbearing age away from the carpeting for several weeks.
7. Wash up.
The clothes you wore to clean up the breakage can be washed unless they made direct contact with the broken bulb or dust. Wipe your shoes with wet wipes or a moist paper towel, then add the wipes to the waste jar.
Wash your hands and face.
8. Follow your state's disposal rules.
Use EPA's website to find the nearest location for disposal of household hazardous waste www.epa.gov/bulbrecycling If no facilities exist it may be legal to send well-packaged waste to your local landfill.
http://www.epa.gov/epawaste/hazard/wastetypes/universal/lamps/index.htm
9. Ventilate the room for several more hours.
Next time you clean the area:
Turn off heating or cooling systems, close the room's doors and open the windows before vacuuming. Leave doors closed and heating or cooling off for 15 minutes post-vacuuming. Follow this regime for several cleanings.
http://www.ewg.org/Mercury/CFL-Lightbulbs-When-a-Bulb-Breaks
an end of life carbon 'bigfoot' print.
there have been two occasions in the last three years where cfl bulbs have shattered in my vicinity.
the clients/owners had no idea as to handling the disposal and after suggesting actions similar to above, i was frowned at and both insisted there was no danger whatsoever. profit eh?
f.
btw i would not wear a dust mask only a cartridge filter respirator when in the vicinity.
---------------------------------
joke is still on us in the end... and the physical harm is still the mediocre reason..
http://commcgi.cc.stonybrook.edu/am2/publish/General_University_News_2/SBU_Study_Reveals_Harmful_Effects_of_CFL_Bulbs_to_Skin.shtml
..but about CFL more *(the another light that WILL lose to god tech)
"Each CFL contains about five mg of mercury, enough to make 6,000 gallons of water toxic.
Mercury can causes brain and kidney damage in humans"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bbTTF857G8
Lol and one great ironic, source paced true post from ATS>
CFLs can be smart choices. Just be careful.
1. Isolate the site.
Get everyone out of the area. Open windows, leave the room, and close the door behind you. Turn off the heating or cooling system. Children and pregnant or nursing mothers should not return until cleanup is complete.
2. Air out the room for 5 to 15 minutes.
Give mercury vapor time to disperse and settle into tiny dust-like beads. Don't wait longer: mercury spreads easily.
3. Don safety gear.
Wear rubber gloves, safety (or other) glasses, work clothes and a dust mask or face covering when cleaning up the broken bulb.
4. Put large bulb pieces and other waste in a large glass jar with a screw-on metal lid, such as a Mason jar.
Scoop up glass fragments and dust with stiff paper or cardboard and deposit in the jar. Pat the area with sticky tape to collect tiny splinters and dust, then wipe with a damp cloth, baby wipe or moist paper towels. (Second choice: a plastic jar with a screw-on lid.)
5. Seal up the waste.
Put paper, cardboard, tape and wipes in the jar and close the lid. Throw away any contaminated fabrics, like clothing or bedding, that have come into direct contact with bulb fragments.
6. If a bulb breaks on a rug or carpeting:
Fabrics are harder to clean than hard surfaces; removing all mercury may be impossible. Hang a CFL-contaminated rug outside. Experts disagree on whether to vacuum carpeting. EPA recommends doing so and cleaning the vacuum afterward. Scientists with the Maine Department of Environmental Protection disagree: after testing various CLF cleanup scenarios [link], they concluded that vacuuming can spread mercury vapor and permanently contaminate the vacuum.
Keep infants, children and women of childbearing age away from the carpeting for several weeks.
7. Wash up.
The clothes you wore to clean up the breakage can be washed unless they made direct contact with the broken bulb or dust. Wipe your shoes with wet wipes or a moist paper towel, then add the wipes to the waste jar.
Wash your hands and face.
8. Follow your state's disposal rules.
Use EPA's website to find the nearest location for disposal of household hazardous waste www.epa.gov/bulbrecycling If no facilities exist it may be legal to send well-packaged waste to your local landfill.
http://www.epa.gov/epawaste/hazard/wastetypes/universal/lamps/index.htm
9. Ventilate the room for several more hours.
Next time you clean the area:
Turn off heating or cooling systems, close the room's doors and open the windows before vacuuming. Leave doors closed and heating or cooling off for 15 minutes post-vacuuming. Follow this regime for several cleanings.
http://www.ewg.org/Mercury/CFL-Lightbulbs-When-a-Bulb-Breaks
an end of life carbon 'bigfoot' print.
there have been two occasions in the last three years where cfl bulbs have shattered in my vicinity.
the clients/owners had no idea as to handling the disposal and after suggesting actions similar to above, i was frowned at and both insisted there was no danger whatsoever. profit eh?
f.
btw i would not wear a dust mask only a cartridge filter respirator when in the vicinity.
---------------------------------
joke is still on us in the end... and the physical harm is still the mediocre reason..
http://commcgi.cc.stonybrook.edu/am2/publish/General_University_News_2/SBU_Study_Reveals_Harmful_Effects_of_CFL_Bulbs_to_Skin.shtml
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bbTTF857G8
18 November 2014 17:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The system, which he’s calling D-Light, uses a mathematical trick called OFDM (orthogonal frequency division multiplexing), which allows it to vary the intensity of the LED’s output at a very fast rate, invisible to the human eye. For the eye, the bulb would simply be on and providing light. The signal can be picked up by simple receivers. As of now, Haas is reporting data rates of up to 10 MBit/s per second (faster than a typical broadband connection), and 100 MBit/s by the end of this year and possibly up to 1 GB in the future.
There’s plenty of capacity, he says: “We have 10,000 times more spectrum, 10,000 times more LEDs installed already in the infrastructure. You would agree with me, hopefully, there’s no issue of capacity anymore.”
Plus, there would be wireless access points anywhere there is a light source. Even smartphones, with their LED displays, could serve as data sources.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaoSp4NpkGg
http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/business-brains/wireless-data-can-be-delivered-by-led-lights-anywhere-call-it-8216li-fi/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li-Fi
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2014/08/21/purelifi-li-fi-vlc-led/
There’s plenty of capacity, he says: “We have 10,000 times more spectrum, 10,000 times more LEDs installed already in the infrastructure. You would agree with me, hopefully, there’s no issue of capacity anymore.”
Plus, there would be wireless access points anywhere there is a light source. Even smartphones, with their LED displays, could serve as data sources.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaoSp4NpkGg
http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/business-brains/wireless-data-can-be-delivered-by-led-lights-anywhere-call-it-8216li-fi/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li-Fi
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2014/08/21/purelifi-li-fi-vlc-led/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaoSp4NpkGg
18 November 2014 16:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
From MIT, related 13y ago *(yes and these lamps are in future good to include loads of extra crap or techs..besides that it is to dangerous to broke..)
"A basic Leeb-designed ballast can encode a simple repeating signal, such as the location of an emergency exit. A more advanced version includes a modem to read data transmitted over the power line. "
"Leeb envisions far more applications for his invention. Malls could direct the blind and befuddled alike. Airlines could turn their plane's cabin lights into a data network, without adding to the miles of wire.
"Fluorescent lights are everywhere," he says. "The infrastructure is already in place."
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/401067/fluorescent-lans-light-the-way/
"A basic Leeb-designed ballast can encode a simple repeating signal, such as the location of an emergency exit. A more advanced version includes a modem to read data transmitted over the power line. "
"Leeb envisions far more applications for his invention. Malls could direct the blind and befuddled alike. Airlines could turn their plane's cabin lights into a data network, without adding to the miles of wire.
"Fluorescent lights are everywhere," he says. "The infrastructure is already in place."
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/401067/fluorescent-lans-light-the-way/
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/401067/fluorescent-lans-light-the-way/
18 November 2014 16:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Actually all the text here is irrelevant and for my own notes, as usually,
just want to share my great light >P
Uh.. one point more
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Spectral_Power_Distributions.png
just want to share my great light >P
Uh.. one point more
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Spectral_Power_Distributions.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Spectral_Power_Distributions.png
18 November 2014 16:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Yes it works, and works long years more as you can see.
Irritates when they change text when you are on the web already.. there was good piece in EU own web page about harm worry to pregnant women and children.. but not having this they have good promotion for fluorescent instead! ....not even going in to esoteric explained harm about these types of light waves...
"Energy commissioner Andris Piebalgs believes consumers will eventually be won over. “Great ideas are sometimes slow to catch on,” he writes in a recent blog post. He predicts the ban will spur more improvements in lighting."
http://ec.europa.eu/energy/lumen/editorial/index_en.htm
http://ec.europa.eu/news/energy/090901_en.htm
//as you can see from wording//
Longer-lasting and cheaper *(four hi-lights)
"By switching to compact fluorescent bulbs, families and companies can reduce their negative contribution to climate change and save money at the same time.
The initial higher cost is quickly recouped, as these bulbs use only a quarter or a fifth of the electricity used by incandescent bulbs, and last 6 to 10 times longer.
Over its lifetime, a single compact fluorescent bulb will save you some €60 - and as more people buy these new bulbs, they will get cheaper."
LED bulbs - the future? *(future not present)
Light emitting diodes (LEDs) are another type of energy-saving light bulb that offers even more advantages. As efficient as compact fluorescent bulbs, they don't contain mercury and have a much longer life.
and about LED.. only 2 lines and one hi-light.. easy to see WHAT is promoted..
Irritates when they change text when you are on the web already.. there was good piece in EU own web page about harm worry to pregnant women and children.. but not having this they have good promotion for fluorescent instead! ....not even going in to esoteric explained harm about these types of light waves...
"Energy commissioner Andris Piebalgs believes consumers will eventually be won over. “Great ideas are sometimes slow to catch on,” he writes in a recent blog post. He predicts the ban will spur more improvements in lighting."
http://ec.europa.eu/energy/lumen/editorial/index_en.htm
http://ec.europa.eu/news/energy/090901_en.htm
//as you can see from wording//
Longer-lasting and cheaper *(four hi-lights)
"By switching to compact fluorescent bulbs, families and companies can reduce their negative contribution to climate change and save money at the same time.
The initial higher cost is quickly recouped, as these bulbs use only a quarter or a fifth of the electricity used by incandescent bulbs, and last 6 to 10 times longer.
Over its lifetime, a single compact fluorescent bulb will save you some €60 - and as more people buy these new bulbs, they will get cheaper."
LED bulbs - the future? *(future not present)
Light emitting diodes (LEDs) are another type of energy-saving light bulb that offers even more advantages. As efficient as compact fluorescent bulbs, they don't contain mercury and have a much longer life.
and about LED.. only 2 lines and one hi-light.. easy to see WHAT is promoted..
http://ec.europa.eu/energy/lumen/editorial/index_en.htm
18 November 2014 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's link.
this is terrible idea actually .. having intercourse for "fun" . this was the last step for human kind... instead teaching and enlightening us about extreme importance and holiness of vagina.. we and them self made to believe this is just some fun activity ...
this is one way to make us feeling even less.. and downgrade or values .. and hope for becoming free.
Fun is extreme underestimate what this is
this is one way to make us feeling even less.. and downgrade or values .. and hope for becoming free.
Fun is extreme underestimate what this is
18 November 2014 11:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The other two men remained close to the door and never spoke. Their eyes remained fixed on Alfrey throughout the entire experience.
"We understand that you have in your possession some old boxes and papers," the first man said. "We would be very interested in buying these from you."
"Well, they're not really for sale," Alfrey answered. "Anyway, how do you know about them?"
The first man chuckled. "We know a lot about you and your papers. They don't belong to you, but we would be willing to pay you for your troubles. They're of no use to you, in fact, you could be in a lot of trouble for having them in the first place."
By now, Alfrey realized that the men were not asking to buy his boxes, they were demanding them. He could tell that they meant business and this frightened him.
The first man now slowly moved closer to Alfrey, speaking in a slow deliberate way. He carefully enunciated each word so that Alfrey understood perfectly where he stood.
"Its no use you know, the man said. Were going to get these boxes no matter what you do. You can't stop us. It would be much easier for you and your family if you just gave us what we want. People have disappeared forever over much less than this. I would so hate to see this happen to you, or your wife and kids."
---
However, Alfrey could tell that these men were not undertakers, or simply there for a friendly chat. The man who had first spoken continued to address Alfrey by his first name:
"Like he knew me personally or something. But I had never seen these men before in my life. I was afraid that maybe they were criminals. There was a palatable air of menace around these three that I had never experienced before, or after."
---
// loodetavasti mu kriitseldisi ike hoitakse kenasti >D
"We understand that you have in your possession some old boxes and papers," the first man said. "We would be very interested in buying these from you."
"Well, they're not really for sale," Alfrey answered. "Anyway, how do you know about them?"
The first man chuckled. "We know a lot about you and your papers. They don't belong to you, but we would be willing to pay you for your troubles. They're of no use to you, in fact, you could be in a lot of trouble for having them in the first place."
By now, Alfrey realized that the men were not asking to buy his boxes, they were demanding them. He could tell that they meant business and this frightened him.
The first man now slowly moved closer to Alfrey, speaking in a slow deliberate way. He carefully enunciated each word so that Alfrey understood perfectly where he stood.
"Its no use you know, the man said. Were going to get these boxes no matter what you do. You can't stop us. It would be much easier for you and your family if you just gave us what we want. People have disappeared forever over much less than this. I would so hate to see this happen to you, or your wife and kids."
---
However, Alfrey could tell that these men were not undertakers, or simply there for a friendly chat. The man who had first spoken continued to address Alfrey by his first name:
"Like he knew me personally or something. But I had never seen these men before in my life. I was afraid that maybe they were criminals. There was a palatable air of menace around these three that I had never experienced before, or after."
---
// loodetavasti mu kriitseldisi ike hoitakse kenasti >D
18 November 2014 11:22
Margus Meigo commented on Kai Kulbok's link.
well, someone must, love is only force that can heal the hopeless.
Tegelt me koik peaksime moistma selle vajalikust, iga suunalist kuid eekoige kui SEDa teha.. kui palju siis koik muud veel vaja ka...
Muidu mul kogutud ka lapse ytlusi oma M2rgetes viimane post...
Tegelt me koik peaksime moistma selle vajalikust, iga suunalist kuid eekoige kui SEDa teha.. kui palju siis koik muud veel vaja ka...
Muidu mul kogutud ka lapse ytlusi oma M2rgetes viimane post...
18 November 2014 10:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://biblehub.com/job/40-19.htm
http://biblehub.com/job/40-19.htm
18 November 2014 09:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
actually hippo was one of the favourites LONG before human http://goo.gl/ObOJ8P vs rihno http://goo.gl/dgBsGx
http://goo.gl/ObOJ8P
18 November 2014 09:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
MAY CANCEL... not "they are forcefully healed of wanting to eliminate one of the God favourite creations"
18 November 2014 09:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
thank you i
But am guess making us wear panties is not jet the end of it..
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/kissing-couples-transmit-80-million-bacteria/ ... few steps more, from skin contact and then someone makes up study how looking someone in to the eyes..
But am guess making us wear panties is not jet the end of it..
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/kissing-couples-transmit-80-million-bacteria/ ... few steps more, from skin contact and then someone makes up study how looking someone in to the eyes..
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/kissing-couples-transmit-80-million-bacteria/
18 November 2014 07:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
"Men were not always allowed to remove their shirt in public- male ‘barechestedness’ laws started to become relaxed after an especially hot summer in the 1930s, and up until the 1960s, men could still be fined for taking off their shirt in public spaces like Central Park."
Wonder what was laws in different part of worlds 1000, 2000, 5000 y ago...
http://www.randominterestingfacts.com/33-states-allow-women-to-be-topless-in-public/http://www.randominterestingfacts.com/33-states-allow-women-to-be-topless-in-public/
18 November 2014 06:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
Soon there will be a human law "you are allowed to be as you was born"
...or at least up to the point when one become shy about being alive
https://www.google.ee/search?q=%22women+are+constitutionally+allowed+to+be+bare+breasted+in+public%22&tbas=0&source=lnt&sa=X&ei=S8hqVPXEAsWwPJHygPgI&ved=0CBIQpwU&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.79908130,d.ZWU&biw=1280&bih=651https://www.google.ee/search?q=%22women+are+constitutionally+allowed+to+be+bare+breasted+in+public%22&tbas=0&source=lnt&sa=X&ei=S8hqVPXEAsWwPJHygPgI&ved=0CBIQpwU&bav=on.2%2Cor.r_qf.&bvm=bv.79908130%2Cd.ZWU&biw=1280&bih=651
18 November 2014 06:22
Margus Meigo commented on David Dickson's photo.
you so private am can not even share it around with my anarchist friends >p
18 November 2014 06:00
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
Hawk: "I study the marriage of Space and Time.."
Waffa: Space newer married with time more then a man engages with a wedding-ring
... okey this is about only sentence i got from the trailer before my browser freezes ,...
But seems beautiful, will look for sure.. as soon am got the torrent running..
http://www.iflscience.com/physics/trailer-new-stephen-hawking-biopic-will-make-you-cry
after all.. promise is big.. to make us cry.. this is new type of marketing between the laughs.. they even put a tie on him.. first am freaked out that they put tie on him when he is on wheelchair.. but it was movie luckily. .. right..
Waffa: Space newer married with time more then a man engages with a wedding-ring
... okey this is about only sentence i got from the trailer before my browser freezes ,...
But seems beautiful, will look for sure.. as soon am got the torrent running..
http://www.iflscience.com/physics/trailer-new-stephen-hawking-biopic-will-make-you-cry
after all.. promise is big.. to make us cry.. this is new type of marketing between the laughs.. they even put a tie on him.. first am freaked out that they put tie on him when he is on wheelchair.. but it was movie luckily. .. right..
http://www.iflscience.com/physics/trailer-new-stephen-hawking-biopic-will-make-you-cry
16 November 2014 21:07
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
big bang THEORY is in all levels laughable unless they talk about sperm or creation box making...
"And the theme song, by the Barenaked Ladies, provides a brief history that begins with the titular “Big Bang” and goes on to cover concepts like Neanderthals using tools; it would not be compatible with a theory of the universe that takes the Bible literally. So that’s something, at least. There’s hope for America yet."
... yeah.. there might..there just might be... : )
"And the theme song, by the Barenaked Ladies, provides a brief history that begins with the titular “Big Bang” and goes on to cover concepts like Neanderthals using tools; it would not be compatible with a theory of the universe that takes the Bible literally. So that’s something, at least. There’s hope for America yet."
... yeah.. there might..there just might be... : )
16 November 2014 20:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
You're such a poet
I wish I could be Wesley Willis
My words would flow like honey, sweet and laid on thick
You're so edgy
You dont even need a rhyming dictionary
I wipe my hands on your jeans, 'cause they are more distressed
So they say--you got O.C.D.
And they claim you can barely read
But you say "Don't bother me with all of your reality"
But it could be so simple
(you were thinking)
Life should be that simple
(Who would have thought it)
I wish it were just so simple
(don't know what you were thinking)
But the point's been missed
You've made a mess
Who would have guessed
That it's as simple as it seems
So what, you're a genius
But you've got a lot to learn
Like the time you lost your apartment
Cause you bought too much Vuitton
You park in a loading zone
You sleep with the lights all on
You cross your i's and dot your t's
All it goes to show
That it could be so simple
(you were thinking)
Life should be that simple
(Who would have thought it)
I wish it were just that simple
(don't know what you were thinking)
The point's been missed
We've made a mess
Who would have guessed
That it's as simple as it seems
I'm not saying that it's a piece of cake
Just take a moment to re-evaluate
The possibilities
The situations
The opportunities
That are waiting
Oh, the possibilities
Oh, I
It could, it could be that simple
(you were thinking)
Life should be that simple
(Who would have thought it)
I wish it were just so simple
(don't know what you were thinking)
You're in a haze
It's just a phase
You know this maze
Is as simple as it seems
We could talk all day
About your eccentricities
What I mean to say
Oh, is that I need you listen please
And focus on life's simplicities
So don't be afraid to strip it away
Cause at the end of the day
It's still as simple as it seems
It is all so simple
Just deal with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rx2gj-vDms
I wish I could be Wesley Willis
My words would flow like honey, sweet and laid on thick
You're so edgy
You dont even need a rhyming dictionary
I wipe my hands on your jeans, 'cause they are more distressed
So they say--you got O.C.D.
And they claim you can barely read
But you say "Don't bother me with all of your reality"
But it could be so simple
(you were thinking)
Life should be that simple
(Who would have thought it)
I wish it were just so simple
(don't know what you were thinking)
But the point's been missed
You've made a mess
Who would have guessed
That it's as simple as it seems
So what, you're a genius
But you've got a lot to learn
Like the time you lost your apartment
Cause you bought too much Vuitton
You park in a loading zone
You sleep with the lights all on
You cross your i's and dot your t's
All it goes to show
That it could be so simple
(you were thinking)
Life should be that simple
(Who would have thought it)
I wish it were just that simple
(don't know what you were thinking)
The point's been missed
We've made a mess
Who would have guessed
That it's as simple as it seems
I'm not saying that it's a piece of cake
Just take a moment to re-evaluate
The possibilities
The situations
The opportunities
That are waiting
Oh, the possibilities
Oh, I
It could, it could be that simple
(you were thinking)
Life should be that simple
(Who would have thought it)
I wish it were just so simple
(don't know what you were thinking)
You're in a haze
It's just a phase
You know this maze
Is as simple as it seems
We could talk all day
About your eccentricities
What I mean to say
Oh, is that I need you listen please
And focus on life's simplicities
So don't be afraid to strip it away
Cause at the end of the day
It's still as simple as it seems
It is all so simple
Just deal with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rx2gj-vDms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rx2gj-vDms
15 November 2014 07:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I felt it.
The wire touched my neck and
Then someone pulled it tighter
I never saw it coming
I started to black out and
Then someone said good morning
I took it as a warning
I should have seen it coming
So now I'll take a chance on
This thing we may have started
Intentional or not I
Don't think we saw it coming
It's all adding up to something
That as of some involvement
That as for our commitment
I think I see it coming
If we step out of that limb
My heart beat, beats me senselessly
Why's everything got to be so intense with me
I'm trying to handle all these unpredictability
In all probability
It's a long shot so I say why not
If I say forget it I no that I'll regret it
It's a long shot just to beat the odds
The chance is we won't make it
But I know if we don't take they're be no chance
But you're the best I got
So take the long shot
I realize that there is all this starting
That we're both scared about but
We'll never see them coming
Throw caution to the wind and
We'll see which way it's blowing
And to this pulling on
We'll never see it coming
Until it's much to close to stop
My heart beat, beats me senselessly
Why's everything got to be so intense with me
I'm trying to handle all these unpredictability
And all probability
It's a long shot but I say why not
If I say forget it
I know that I'll regret it
It's a long shot just to beat the odds
The chance is we won't make it
But I know if I don't take it there's no chance
'Cause I'm the best you got
So take the long shot
What a pleasant surprise what a breath of fresh air
You knock the wind out of me
Blindsided and so unaware
Ahaa, ahaa, ahaa,
Oh I waited for fact to come of fiction
And you fit my description
I never saw you coming
But we'll make it even though
It's a long shot but I say why not
If I say forget it
I know that I'll regret it
It's a long shot just to beat the odds
The chance is we won't make it
But I know if I don't take it there's no chance
'Cause you're the best I got
So take the long shot
You didn't expect this
Oh you never saw me coming
You didn't expect this
Oh you never saw this coming
I take the long shot
I take the long shot, shot, shot, shot, shot
'Cause you're the best I got
Oh I'm take this chance on you baby
I'm take this chance on you baby
I'm taking this chance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHmcfd_Jirg
The wire touched my neck and
Then someone pulled it tighter
I never saw it coming
I started to black out and
Then someone said good morning
I took it as a warning
I should have seen it coming
So now I'll take a chance on
This thing we may have started
Intentional or not I
Don't think we saw it coming
It's all adding up to something
That as of some involvement
That as for our commitment
I think I see it coming
If we step out of that limb
My heart beat, beats me senselessly
Why's everything got to be so intense with me
I'm trying to handle all these unpredictability
In all probability
It's a long shot so I say why not
If I say forget it I no that I'll regret it
It's a long shot just to beat the odds
The chance is we won't make it
But I know if we don't take they're be no chance
But you're the best I got
So take the long shot
I realize that there is all this starting
That we're both scared about but
We'll never see them coming
Throw caution to the wind and
We'll see which way it's blowing
And to this pulling on
We'll never see it coming
Until it's much to close to stop
My heart beat, beats me senselessly
Why's everything got to be so intense with me
I'm trying to handle all these unpredictability
And all probability
It's a long shot but I say why not
If I say forget it
I know that I'll regret it
It's a long shot just to beat the odds
The chance is we won't make it
But I know if I don't take it there's no chance
'Cause I'm the best you got
So take the long shot
What a pleasant surprise what a breath of fresh air
You knock the wind out of me
Blindsided and so unaware
Ahaa, ahaa, ahaa,
Oh I waited for fact to come of fiction
And you fit my description
I never saw you coming
But we'll make it even though
It's a long shot but I say why not
If I say forget it
I know that I'll regret it
It's a long shot just to beat the odds
The chance is we won't make it
But I know if I don't take it there's no chance
'Cause you're the best I got
So take the long shot
You didn't expect this
Oh you never saw me coming
You didn't expect this
Oh you never saw this coming
I take the long shot
I take the long shot, shot, shot, shot, shot
'Cause you're the best I got
Oh I'm take this chance on you baby
I'm take this chance on you baby
I'm taking this chance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHmcfd_Jirg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHmcfd_Jirg
15 November 2014 07:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I was living in a small mind
With no lifeline
And no messages can reach me from the outside
When I looked out over the horizon
Didn't notice the sun was setting or just rising
Then it hit me
Maybe bit me
Then I knew, quite a few would not go with me
I didn't know exactly where I would be going
But I had to let this river in me flowing
What a ride
When you open your eyes
For the very first time
A real surprise
I started living outside of the box
Crossing over lines where I always used to stop
Living outside of the box
'Cause I'm not gonna be anybody that I'm not
I always knew this day would come
When I got off my back, found some motivation
I've been living on the other side
Come hell or high water every moment I'm alive
I was living on a fault line
The fault was all mine
And this unstable ground found me down half the time
But I had enough
I had to get up
I had to shrug it all off 'cause it's the same old stuff
Then it hit me
You won't permit me
To be an individual
Just doesn't fit me
But I decided that it's going to be living
Yeah, I decided I'm escaping from your prison
What a high
When you open your mind for the very first time
A real surprise
I started living outside of the box
Crossing over lines where I always used to stop
Living outside of the box
'Cause I'm not gonna be anybody that I'm not
I always knew this day would come
When I got off my back, found some motivation
I've been living on the other side
Come hell or high water every moment I'm alive
So long conformity
And ambiguality is a new priority
All it takes, for heaven sakes
Is to figure out the face and learn to seperate
I started living outside for the box
Taking my time when I always used to rush
Living outside of the box
'Cause I'm not gonna be anybody that I'm not
I always knew this day would come
When I broke down the walls for my liberation
I've been living on the other side
Come hell or high water every moment I'm alive
Oh, living outside of the box
Oh, living outside of the box
Oh, living outside
Ha ha ha
I always knew this day would come
When I got off my back, found some motivation
Oh, living outside of the box
Of the box, of your life
Of everything that seems that nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyjlRfLF6PY
With no lifeline
And no messages can reach me from the outside
When I looked out over the horizon
Didn't notice the sun was setting or just rising
Then it hit me
Maybe bit me
Then I knew, quite a few would not go with me
I didn't know exactly where I would be going
But I had to let this river in me flowing
What a ride
When you open your eyes
For the very first time
A real surprise
I started living outside of the box
Crossing over lines where I always used to stop
Living outside of the box
'Cause I'm not gonna be anybody that I'm not
I always knew this day would come
When I got off my back, found some motivation
I've been living on the other side
Come hell or high water every moment I'm alive
I was living on a fault line
The fault was all mine
And this unstable ground found me down half the time
But I had enough
I had to get up
I had to shrug it all off 'cause it's the same old stuff
Then it hit me
You won't permit me
To be an individual
Just doesn't fit me
But I decided that it's going to be living
Yeah, I decided I'm escaping from your prison
What a high
When you open your mind for the very first time
A real surprise
I started living outside of the box
Crossing over lines where I always used to stop
Living outside of the box
'Cause I'm not gonna be anybody that I'm not
I always knew this day would come
When I got off my back, found some motivation
I've been living on the other side
Come hell or high water every moment I'm alive
So long conformity
And ambiguality is a new priority
All it takes, for heaven sakes
Is to figure out the face and learn to seperate
I started living outside for the box
Taking my time when I always used to rush
Living outside of the box
'Cause I'm not gonna be anybody that I'm not
I always knew this day would come
When I broke down the walls for my liberation
I've been living on the other side
Come hell or high water every moment I'm alive
Oh, living outside of the box
Oh, living outside of the box
Oh, living outside
Ha ha ha
I always knew this day would come
When I got off my back, found some motivation
Oh, living outside of the box
Of the box, of your life
Of everything that seems that nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyjlRfLF6PY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyjlRfLF6PY
15 November 2014 07:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHprkiErlOg
I've got people to see
Places to go
Deadlines to meet
A reputation to up hold
Its like a ton of bricks
Breaking on my back
Its like
The force of gravity
In full effect
I got money to burn
And I'm on the sake
They bet their bomb on me
Cause I'm their ace of spades
I feel the walls
Getting closer
I'm like a bomb
With all red wires
All this pressure
All this pressure
Maybe it means
I'm gonna be
All this pressure
All this pressure
Maybe this means
I'm gonna be
A diamond
It wont ever bend
A diamond
Cause there ladies
Best friends a diamond
But there
There has to be more
Than what these pirates
Are gambling for
If not for the push
Id probably be a pebble
If not for the pressure
Id be forgotten forever
Just another stone
Skipped upon the water
Drowning fast before
The other failures
I don't wanna be
A distant memory
On your wall
Just another cd
That you burned
And never bought
Am I not worth it to you?
After all that drama
That we've been though?
All this pressure
All this pressure
Maybe it means
I'm gonna be
All this pressure
All this pressure
Maybe this means
I'm gonna be
A diamond
It wont ever bend
A diamond
Cause there ladies
Best friends
A diamond
But there
There has to be more
Than what these pirates
Are gambling for
Ooh oohh diamond
I've gotta be a diamond
(I'm a diamond in the sky
With you standing by
Now catch me if I fall)
Ohhh ohhh ohhhh
Yeah yeah yeah
All this pressure
All this pressure
Oh, I've gotta be
Oh, I've gotta be
All this pressure
All this pressure
Oh, I've gotta be
Oh, I've gotta be
I'm a diamond in the sky
With you standing by
Now catch me if I fall
Into the arms of a coma
All this pressure
I've got pressure
I'm gonna be a diamond baby
I've gotta be a diamond
Your gonna see
I'm gonna be a diamond
I've got people to see
Places to go
Deadlines to meet
A reputation to up hold
Its like a ton of bricks
Breaking on my back
Its like
The force of gravity
In full effect
I got money to burn
And I'm on the sake
They bet their bomb on me
Cause I'm their ace of spades
I feel the walls
Getting closer
I'm like a bomb
With all red wires
All this pressure
All this pressure
Maybe it means
I'm gonna be
All this pressure
All this pressure
Maybe this means
I'm gonna be
A diamond
It wont ever bend
A diamond
Cause there ladies
Best friends a diamond
But there
There has to be more
Than what these pirates
Are gambling for
If not for the push
Id probably be a pebble
If not for the pressure
Id be forgotten forever
Just another stone
Skipped upon the water
Drowning fast before
The other failures
I don't wanna be
A distant memory
On your wall
Just another cd
That you burned
And never bought
Am I not worth it to you?
After all that drama
That we've been though?
All this pressure
All this pressure
Maybe it means
I'm gonna be
All this pressure
All this pressure
Maybe this means
I'm gonna be
A diamond
It wont ever bend
A diamond
Cause there ladies
Best friends
A diamond
But there
There has to be more
Than what these pirates
Are gambling for
Ooh oohh diamond
I've gotta be a diamond
(I'm a diamond in the sky
With you standing by
Now catch me if I fall)
Ohhh ohhh ohhhh
Yeah yeah yeah
All this pressure
All this pressure
Oh, I've gotta be
Oh, I've gotta be
All this pressure
All this pressure
Oh, I've gotta be
Oh, I've gotta be
I'm a diamond in the sky
With you standing by
Now catch me if I fall
Into the arms of a coma
All this pressure
I've got pressure
I'm gonna be a diamond baby
I've gotta be a diamond
Your gonna see
I'm gonna be a diamond
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHprkiErlOg
15 November 2014 07:14
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's photo.
kuigi tõde on lopuks ikka ilus ja hea
15 November 2014 03:44
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's photo.
karm aga tõsi
15 November 2014 03:43
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's link.
ja kuna koik mis kulutatakse jääb sama süsteemi sisse.. siis pole ju vahet.. oluline on, et tulevikus siis need kes soovivad, saavad sul konto kinni keerates ja sind sopradest eemaldades, sind märkides systeemi vastaliseks.. et nad saavad siis inimesi panan tegema mida iganes.. propakada võim juba tõestanud ennast kus mida iganes on läbi lainud testidega.. tehnoloogiad ammu olemas neil mille läbi saab paarid ja naised ja lapsed ja vanemad eemale teineteisest hoida.. sest ahnus hoitakse ikka alles ju... ja propakanda loodus inimeste vasta... "kes heaolu nautida soovivad kui ei taha midagi teha selle jaoks..." jms..
et jah... meelega polvili surutud, pekstud.. hoitud pead veeall.. hävistatud.. alandatud.. lohestatud.. steriliseeritud... ja siis selle ise mida ise tekitatud suur msutade poolt.. selle ära vottes ja mitte peksa andes.. nad siis selle paradiisi tunde saavatki tektiada sulle... ja kuna neil pole vaja siis manipuleerida sojaväega neid teineteise vastu saates.. siis saab kodumaal, igas maal need väed panna kasutusse.. eesrindlikult ka koik maha võidelda mis protokolliga kokku ei lahe.. sest mis me arvame, et siin mingid kängid omavad ja kontrollivad ja teevad... need teineteist, neile keda nukuna kasutatakse või avalike nimedena... neid aint saadakse peksta.. kuid nende ligi kunagi ei saada tava rahva poolt ilma shamaani, nõia ja religioosete kunstideta kes tegelt niite võlur Ozi maal tõmbavad...
Kuid palun , seda koike räägitut.. pole motet vist edasi rääkida ega siin ka uskum hakata.. motle ISE endale.. neist juppidest varjant ja versioon välja.. mida arvesse võta... ja kasuta milleks tarvis... sest see mida sa tekstis näed, isegi see ei pruugi olla see mis kirjutatud... ja see mis kaks inimest samat tektsti lugedes motlevad.. ei pruugi olla see mida sõnad tegelikult tähendavad... ainuüksi eri arusaam sellest mida sona Moslem tähendab annab Täpselt sama neutraalsele ja suurele uudisele hoopis teise arusaama.. ilma, et keegi midagi ytleks voi uudises kallutada proovisk... eeltöö on juba me peas tehtud.. nad ei pea teksti ja uudiste kanaliga eriti vaeva nägema.. need pool vabalt joooksevad ja ise toodavad mida tootma pandud... kuid eirit skeemitama juba AMMU keegi ei pea suurtest.. sest me vanematega juba tehti eeltöö ära.. et koik kellegi vastu oleksime arvates, et nii saab maailm paremaks kui need teised normaalseks hakkavad... ja suurem osa vastasusi isegi ei seisne selles, kas inimene toetab uudega suhtemist, ajas reisimist või ilmade loojat või mitte.. kuigi isegi selles osas.. vastasuste olemasolu uskumisega peaks väga ettevaatlik olema..
seda teksti ka teile kirjutan, teile, kui kellegile kes targem, kes kahe jalaga tegelt eestimaa peal...
Alati tea, et kõige suuremsuurlooja on Su poolel, KUS IGANES poolel sa tegeled mis iganes tõttu mis iganes suunas, SENIkaua kui ISE südames head soovid... seda kas teised soovivad.. seda meil raske teada... sest ka seda mida kuuleme ja näeme mida "teised" teevad, isegi meiega voodis olles saab muuta.. tase on suht võimas
et jah... meelega polvili surutud, pekstud.. hoitud pead veeall.. hävistatud.. alandatud.. lohestatud.. steriliseeritud... ja siis selle ise mida ise tekitatud suur msutade poolt.. selle ära vottes ja mitte peksa andes.. nad siis selle paradiisi tunde saavatki tektiada sulle... ja kuna neil pole vaja siis manipuleerida sojaväega neid teineteise vastu saates.. siis saab kodumaal, igas maal need väed panna kasutusse.. eesrindlikult ka koik maha võidelda mis protokolliga kokku ei lahe.. sest mis me arvame, et siin mingid kängid omavad ja kontrollivad ja teevad... need teineteist, neile keda nukuna kasutatakse või avalike nimedena... neid aint saadakse peksta.. kuid nende ligi kunagi ei saada tava rahva poolt ilma shamaani, nõia ja religioosete kunstideta kes tegelt niite võlur Ozi maal tõmbavad...
Kuid palun , seda koike räägitut.. pole motet vist edasi rääkida ega siin ka uskum hakata.. motle ISE endale.. neist juppidest varjant ja versioon välja.. mida arvesse võta... ja kasuta milleks tarvis... sest see mida sa tekstis näed, isegi see ei pruugi olla see mis kirjutatud... ja see mis kaks inimest samat tektsti lugedes motlevad.. ei pruugi olla see mida sõnad tegelikult tähendavad... ainuüksi eri arusaam sellest mida sona Moslem tähendab annab Täpselt sama neutraalsele ja suurele uudisele hoopis teise arusaama.. ilma, et keegi midagi ytleks voi uudises kallutada proovisk... eeltöö on juba me peas tehtud.. nad ei pea teksti ja uudiste kanaliga eriti vaeva nägema.. need pool vabalt joooksevad ja ise toodavad mida tootma pandud... kuid eirit skeemitama juba AMMU keegi ei pea suurtest.. sest me vanematega juba tehti eeltöö ära.. et koik kellegi vastu oleksime arvates, et nii saab maailm paremaks kui need teised normaalseks hakkavad... ja suurem osa vastasusi isegi ei seisne selles, kas inimene toetab uudega suhtemist, ajas reisimist või ilmade loojat või mitte.. kuigi isegi selles osas.. vastasuste olemasolu uskumisega peaks väga ettevaatlik olema..
seda teksti ka teile kirjutan, teile, kui kellegile kes targem, kes kahe jalaga tegelt eestimaa peal...
Alati tea, et kõige suuremsuurlooja on Su poolel, KUS IGANES poolel sa tegeled mis iganes tõttu mis iganes suunas, SENIkaua kui ISE südames head soovid... seda kas teised soovivad.. seda meil raske teada... sest ka seda mida kuuleme ja näeme mida "teised" teevad, isegi meiega voodis olles saab muuta.. tase on suht võimas
15 November 2014 03:27
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's link.
Kui igale maailma inimesle tehakse konto kuhu peale pannakse kõigile 10 000 eeku (arvestades kuidas bitcoini taoliste kontode tegemine käib votab see protsess 10 miljardi inimesejaoks, peale andmebaaside laadimist mis igal riigil olemas... umbes 10 minutit.. ),
Siis iga inimene saab oma mgratsiooni ametist voi x tee kaudu paroolid mis ta kontoga seotud, valitsus vorkudel siis eraldi privaat p2p võrk mille kaudu jagatakse koodid laiali (ka see väga lihtne teha, eri krypto võrk välja moelda mis yle maailma toimima hakkaks igas valitsuse arvtis.. see paari päeva töö, et see stabiilseks saada...)
.. kui keegi kellegi konto ära varastab vms.. siis see pole probleem, sest see väljamoeldud raha nagunii.. ja kus ta kulutab seda .. seda võimalik ka jälgida elektrooniliselt kui vaja...
siis see veel aitab sellele Internt of Things teemale ka kaasa, kus inimesed vabatahtlikult sunnitakse arvutisse minema... sest see vabatahtlik.. kas tahad oma 10 000 eeku saada kätte voi ei soobi.. koik toimiks nagu varaselt..
ja mida see maailma finantsiga teeks.. mis juhtuks inimliigiga.. arvatkse.. et ei midagi.. suurem vabadus tunne tekiks ja inimesed veelgi rohkem loplikult tehnoloogiat ja raha kummardama hakaksid.. sest kes viitsiks hakata vaevama pead aga kuidas ja miks nad seda raha anda saavad jms
Kas sa ise jätaksid oma raha enne välja votmata kui pole saanud vastust ja tarkust, kuidas see kogu systeem siis toimima jääb ja miks nad seda teevad?
Nad isegi voivad vastata "Jumal tegi ja andis"
...mille peale polekski midagi lisada :p
kuid jah point on.. et kui juba 2 senti on elektrooniliselt mitte millegist suudetud toota.. koduarvutiga... siis kosmose päris arvutid.. saavad meie moistes millise iganes summa toota... sest me ju ei oskagi ette kujutada maailmaruuume kus juba sadades trillionites inimesi kes omakorda siis võrgustikus muude selliste suurmaailmadega... ja meid vaadatakse nagu väikest loomaaeda.. kellele saiapuru visates (mis iganes suuruses summa meie enda arvutivõrgus tektiades... mitte, et see meie võrk oleks...) .. kus seda puru tekitades saab suurema osa inimesi oletatavalt panna tegema mida iganes teiste nendega kes selle asja suhtes kahtlustavad on..
kuid enamasti ikka ketratakse suuri konspiracy teemasi mis huvitavad tunduvad, .. ikka räägitakse numbritest.. liha, vaimu ja taime asemel..
http://new.euro-med.dk/20140217-money-supply-regulator-rothschilds-deathblow-phase-to-the-world.php
http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/content/en/mineweb-independent-viewpoint?oid=198322&sn=Detail
ja valg draakoni propa ka.. eks uuriem veel välja kes miks mida neid asju kirjtuab.. kuid analoogle üllitis reaalse raha nurga pealt:
http://wariscrime.com/new/the-rothschinld-try-to-steal-asian-gold-deposits/
The World Bank, for its part, lent out only $42 billion in new money in 2011, compared to a world GDP of roughly $75 trillion. They are a puny organization.
By contrast, the White Dragon Society is proposing the creation of a Long Term Infrastructure for Everybody (LIFE) planning agency with initial funding of $800 trillion. Of course at this level, numbers are meaningless.
The current rules allow the Japanese to leverage their $8 trillion in hard foreign exchange assets 100 times, meaning 800 trillion dollars or over $100,000 each for every man woman and child on earth (as a Japanese reader pointed out, I miscalculated in previous reports by saying that was available on 10 times leverage).
Even if you take the more conservative Basel 3 rules with over 10 times leverage, Japan can still legally make $10,000 available for every human, still plenty enough to end poverty and stop environmental destruction.
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JA KUI ULME JA FANTAASIA VEEL LIIGA VÄIKE,
Siis tasub uurida miks ja mida nodes seotud uudistes kirjutatakse..
Ilma, et hullusesse satuksid.. hoia piibel ikka käepärast :p
või psyhedeelsed taimed koos meditatsiooni ja nais tuttavaga..
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/08/rothschild-icbc-bank-now-controls-asian-gold-exchanges-3004534.html
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John Lear New 9/11 Bombshells On Caravan To Midnight With John B. Wells
Veel lisaks, miks USA sõjavägi saab maailma päästa:
http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2014/01/22/the-russo-chinese-pincer-movement-against-the-us-treasury-and-the-fed/
Siis iga inimene saab oma mgratsiooni ametist voi x tee kaudu paroolid mis ta kontoga seotud, valitsus vorkudel siis eraldi privaat p2p võrk mille kaudu jagatakse koodid laiali (ka see väga lihtne teha, eri krypto võrk välja moelda mis yle maailma toimima hakkaks igas valitsuse arvtis.. see paari päeva töö, et see stabiilseks saada...)
.. kui keegi kellegi konto ära varastab vms.. siis see pole probleem, sest see väljamoeldud raha nagunii.. ja kus ta kulutab seda .. seda võimalik ka jälgida elektrooniliselt kui vaja...
siis see veel aitab sellele Internt of Things teemale ka kaasa, kus inimesed vabatahtlikult sunnitakse arvutisse minema... sest see vabatahtlik.. kas tahad oma 10 000 eeku saada kätte voi ei soobi.. koik toimiks nagu varaselt..
ja mida see maailma finantsiga teeks.. mis juhtuks inimliigiga.. arvatkse.. et ei midagi.. suurem vabadus tunne tekiks ja inimesed veelgi rohkem loplikult tehnoloogiat ja raha kummardama hakaksid.. sest kes viitsiks hakata vaevama pead aga kuidas ja miks nad seda raha anda saavad jms
Kas sa ise jätaksid oma raha enne välja votmata kui pole saanud vastust ja tarkust, kuidas see kogu systeem siis toimima jääb ja miks nad seda teevad?
Nad isegi voivad vastata "Jumal tegi ja andis"
...mille peale polekski midagi lisada :p
kuid jah point on.. et kui juba 2 senti on elektrooniliselt mitte millegist suudetud toota.. koduarvutiga... siis kosmose päris arvutid.. saavad meie moistes millise iganes summa toota... sest me ju ei oskagi ette kujutada maailmaruuume kus juba sadades trillionites inimesi kes omakorda siis võrgustikus muude selliste suurmaailmadega... ja meid vaadatakse nagu väikest loomaaeda.. kellele saiapuru visates (mis iganes suuruses summa meie enda arvutivõrgus tektiades... mitte, et see meie võrk oleks...) .. kus seda puru tekitades saab suurema osa inimesi oletatavalt panna tegema mida iganes teiste nendega kes selle asja suhtes kahtlustavad on..
kuid enamasti ikka ketratakse suuri konspiracy teemasi mis huvitavad tunduvad, .. ikka räägitakse numbritest.. liha, vaimu ja taime asemel..
http://new.euro-med.dk/20140217-money-supply-regulator-rothschilds-deathblow-phase-to-the-world.php
http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/content/en/mineweb-independent-viewpoint?oid=198322&sn=Detail
ja valg draakoni propa ka.. eks uuriem veel välja kes miks mida neid asju kirjtuab.. kuid analoogle üllitis reaalse raha nurga pealt:
http://wariscrime.com/new/the-rothschinld-try-to-steal-asian-gold-deposits/
The World Bank, for its part, lent out only $42 billion in new money in 2011, compared to a world GDP of roughly $75 trillion. They are a puny organization.
By contrast, the White Dragon Society is proposing the creation of a Long Term Infrastructure for Everybody (LIFE) planning agency with initial funding of $800 trillion. Of course at this level, numbers are meaningless.
The current rules allow the Japanese to leverage their $8 trillion in hard foreign exchange assets 100 times, meaning 800 trillion dollars or over $100,000 each for every man woman and child on earth (as a Japanese reader pointed out, I miscalculated in previous reports by saying that was available on 10 times leverage).
Even if you take the more conservative Basel 3 rules with over 10 times leverage, Japan can still legally make $10,000 available for every human, still plenty enough to end poverty and stop environmental destruction.
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JA KUI ULME JA FANTAASIA VEEL LIIGA VÄIKE,
Siis tasub uurida miks ja mida nodes seotud uudistes kirjutatakse..
Ilma, et hullusesse satuksid.. hoia piibel ikka käepärast :p
või psyhedeelsed taimed koos meditatsiooni ja nais tuttavaga..
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/08/rothschild-icbc-bank-now-controls-asian-gold-exchanges-3004534.html
Ajalooliseks märkeks:
Todays news:
Did Russia Disable US Ship With Alien Technology?
Mysterious Monsters May Be The Most Startling Film You Will Ever See (Video)
Ferguson: Civil War Imminent? Citizens Mobilizing Across Nation
This Will Make Watergate Look Like a Sunday School Picnic - "V" the Guerrilla Economist
Video Shows Sudden Disappearance Of A Running Car On North Dakota Street Prompting Speculations Of UFO Abduction (Video)
Major! Illuminati Document Surfaces Promoting a Chilling Future That They are Trying to Hide…But Now Everything Is Out In the Open and You Won't Believe Their Next Step! (Jaw-Dropping Video)
Hawk: "Chaos" & Duduman Prophecies Unfolding Now!
War Is Coming, Central Bankers Create Plans To Remove Assad
John Moore: "Get Ready! Things Could Spin Wildly Out Of Control Very Soon!"
John Lear New 9/11 Bombshells On Caravan To Midnight With John B. Wells
Veel lisaks, miks USA sõjavägi saab maailma päästa:
http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2014/01/22/the-russo-chinese-pincer-movement-against-the-us-treasury-and-the-fed/
http://new.euro-med.dk/20140217-money-supply-regulator-rothschilds-deathblow-phase-to-the-world.php
15 November 2014 03:12
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's link.
(räägin suts teiste motteid, mul endal veel ulmelisemad.. kuid notlen veel.. läbi segi palju kuid ikka väärt lugeda, et miskit motte toitu saad usun.. võta praktiliselt ja vaimselt...) ..
Nu tegelikult juba ammu toimib ja juba veel hullemal moodusel, praegu bicoin pandud tootma Miinust mis samal ajal selle väärtust tõstab.. praegu bitcoini tõestus aeg, et näidata kuidas toimib.. et koik suured raha inimesed aru saaksid raha virtuaalsusest..
kuidas TEGELT bitcoin toimi, seda öeldakse, et keegi ei tea päriselt.. kuid reaalselt... mõtleme nüüd ise talupojalikult... kui bitcoin on juba aastaid ELEKTRIT söönud, kulutanud resursse ja siis selle läbi oma väärtust juurde tõstnud (lisaks muu "reaalse" finantsi söömisele)
Kuid see jah lihtne.. ja samas arusaamatu neile kes arvavad, et raha peab nullist alustatuna päriselt olema reaalse materiaalse maailmaga seotud.
korra veel: mis on bitcoin mining ja KUIDAS saab see raha juurde tekitada kui need arvutid kes kryptot lahendavad ei lahenda midagi mida vaja on planeedile esiteks (praegu vel avalikult..) ... isegi kui lahendaksid ja sellega akateemiate raha säästaksid siis oleks seda keeruline päris rahaks tõlkida kuid arvutatav...
Kuid praegu... bitcoin.. pole oluline kas toodab 2 senti aastas või 400 trillionit, point on, et Arvuti KULUTAB, poletab elektrit... ja siis see aeg kui su arvuti raiskab fyysilist resurssi... selle läbi tõuseb raha väärtus...
mis loogika järgi see toimub reaalses maailmas kui raha on millegagi seoud mida ei saa lampi igaüks välja moelda mis iganes koguses?
Kui see toimib sedasi, et miinuse asemel toodetakse plussi bitcoini kaevandamisel..(kordan veel korra yle.. et nende jutt, et sa oma arvuti proset kasutad siis krypromiseks mille pohjal sulle tasutakse ekstra bitcoinidega...kuid see mida sa kryptod samas ytlevad nad.. on ebavajalik SUVALINE arvutus mis meelga raskeks tegud, et arvuti aru ei saaks..turvalisuse pärast.. nu .. mis iganes pidi see maagia toimima on pantud, mis väärtust saab toota juurde nullide ja yhtede ringi ragistamine reaalsesse maailma? Ja siis need välja moeldud nullid ja yhed, mida pole olemas kui elektri välja votad. nede eest saad osta reaalselt kõik kulla maailmas tulevikus ja koik muu mida iganes, maad ja linnad... (mis mulle yeldi soprade nagu Amir Taaki poolt.. on ka plaan... osta planeet tagasi..))
see maailma suurim krypto võrgustik juba praeguseks, mille koguvõimsus suurem kui CERNIL ja muudel kokku... ja mida ta arvutab ?
Eriti kui votta aluspinnaks kristlik praktiline maainimese loogika kus reaalsetest taimedest sööki, kütust ja maju saame...
kuidas nullide ja yhtedega mängimine saab toota väärtust füüsilisse maailma ?
aga toodab järelikult.. :p
Reaalselt peaks ju olema nii.. et kui see arvuti arvutab midagi ja elektrit kulub, siis reaalselt mingi inimene peaks oma kehaga tööd tegema voi midagi tootma, et seda väärtust tasakaalustada...
Luulet ka ei saa rahasse panna, kuigi väärtus, ja kunst... kuid isegi seda ju ei tooda bitcoin.. ..ta saab panna säästma nulli lähedaseks kuluks kogu finants ja panga systeemi yle votmiseks blockchaini kaudu kus robotid on raamatupidajad ja inimesi palkvad ja bitcoine annavad... kuid reaalsus jääb ikka.. et osa bitcoine ju ohust tekkinud... ja kui sutsu on tekkinud.. siis maavälised saavad mis iganes koguse tektiada...
ja kuna enamus inimesed on aetud majanduslikku raskusesse... ja eestis suruti seadus läbi kus välismaalased vovad osta eesti ÄRA nüüd meilt, ja meid siit välja tõsta KUI soovivad, reaalselt, tulevikus... sest nad ostavad IGAVESEKS.. sest kujutavad ette.. et saavad maa osta inimesed.. ja usuvad nii tugevalt.. et ostavad ja panevad teisi ka uskuma... pool pärnust juba on kokku ostetud läbi kolmanda välimsaa firmadega mis eesti frimade kuues siin ka muid metsasi ja maid ostavad... osad ise autopiloodil,,, kes suure hooga trillionitega ära ostetakse... ... ja siis saadakse võim sedasi kätte labi tava maa inimese lollitamiste.. et seadusega saavad Elus puud ma saagida, haldjate elukohad energia vabaks teha ja maagilised pollud üles kaevata... ja siis tõepoolest.. meil nagu eriti palju enam võimu järgi ei jää... kui uskuda, et Eesti maa on üks maa kus võluvõim meid vabaduse äärel on hoidnud... kuigi töö orjuses.. siis vähemalt suurema osa hinged on alles hoitud.. kuigi praegu juba üle 30% on vist otseselt otsustanud oma maa, jumala ja naise teenimise asemele Raha teenima hakata... ja kes raha päriselt teenib.. selle läbi saab mida iganes korda saata... ja talle kui iganes palju raha anda TEGELT ... sest raha jääb alati raha omaniku jaoks.. sa ju TEMA enda systeemis seda kasutada saad... ega sa metsas oravale, talvetaadile ega maagilisele seenele ei saa RAHA anda.. et nad siis sulle toodaksid midagi...
rahaga kyll saad tekitada midagi, midagi panna inimesed tegema mida maakerale vaja... kuid enamasti seda ei tehta, sest "see ei too sisse" ja "ei tooda kasumit" ... umbes nagu raha teenimise point oleks RAHA koguda :D (selle asemel, et selle virtuaalse väljamõeldisega panna manipuleeritud tegema seda mida vaja koigi elusolemiseks 1000a pärast.... 200 aasta vähemalt.. miinimum mis peaksime ette motlema.)
Nu tegelikult juba ammu toimib ja juba veel hullemal moodusel, praegu bicoin pandud tootma Miinust mis samal ajal selle väärtust tõstab.. praegu bitcoini tõestus aeg, et näidata kuidas toimib.. et koik suured raha inimesed aru saaksid raha virtuaalsusest..
kuidas TEGELT bitcoin toimi, seda öeldakse, et keegi ei tea päriselt.. kuid reaalselt... mõtleme nüüd ise talupojalikult... kui bitcoin on juba aastaid ELEKTRIT söönud, kulutanud resursse ja siis selle läbi oma väärtust juurde tõstnud (lisaks muu "reaalse" finantsi söömisele)
Kuid see jah lihtne.. ja samas arusaamatu neile kes arvavad, et raha peab nullist alustatuna päriselt olema reaalse materiaalse maailmaga seotud.
korra veel: mis on bitcoin mining ja KUIDAS saab see raha juurde tekitada kui need arvutid kes kryptot lahendavad ei lahenda midagi mida vaja on planeedile esiteks (praegu vel avalikult..) ... isegi kui lahendaksid ja sellega akateemiate raha säästaksid siis oleks seda keeruline päris rahaks tõlkida kuid arvutatav...
Kuid praegu... bitcoin.. pole oluline kas toodab 2 senti aastas või 400 trillionit, point on, et Arvuti KULUTAB, poletab elektrit... ja siis see aeg kui su arvuti raiskab fyysilist resurssi... selle läbi tõuseb raha väärtus...
mis loogika järgi see toimub reaalses maailmas kui raha on millegagi seoud mida ei saa lampi igaüks välja moelda mis iganes koguses?
Kui see toimib sedasi, et miinuse asemel toodetakse plussi bitcoini kaevandamisel..(kordan veel korra yle.. et nende jutt, et sa oma arvuti proset kasutad siis krypromiseks mille pohjal sulle tasutakse ekstra bitcoinidega...kuid see mida sa kryptod samas ytlevad nad.. on ebavajalik SUVALINE arvutus mis meelga raskeks tegud, et arvuti aru ei saaks..turvalisuse pärast.. nu .. mis iganes pidi see maagia toimima on pantud, mis väärtust saab toota juurde nullide ja yhtede ringi ragistamine reaalsesse maailma? Ja siis need välja moeldud nullid ja yhed, mida pole olemas kui elektri välja votad. nede eest saad osta reaalselt kõik kulla maailmas tulevikus ja koik muu mida iganes, maad ja linnad... (mis mulle yeldi soprade nagu Amir Taaki poolt.. on ka plaan... osta planeet tagasi..))
see maailma suurim krypto võrgustik juba praeguseks, mille koguvõimsus suurem kui CERNIL ja muudel kokku... ja mida ta arvutab ?
Eriti kui votta aluspinnaks kristlik praktiline maainimese loogika kus reaalsetest taimedest sööki, kütust ja maju saame...
kuidas nullide ja yhtedega mängimine saab toota väärtust füüsilisse maailma ?
aga toodab järelikult.. :p
Reaalselt peaks ju olema nii.. et kui see arvuti arvutab midagi ja elektrit kulub, siis reaalselt mingi inimene peaks oma kehaga tööd tegema voi midagi tootma, et seda väärtust tasakaalustada...
Luulet ka ei saa rahasse panna, kuigi väärtus, ja kunst... kuid isegi seda ju ei tooda bitcoin.. ..ta saab panna säästma nulli lähedaseks kuluks kogu finants ja panga systeemi yle votmiseks blockchaini kaudu kus robotid on raamatupidajad ja inimesi palkvad ja bitcoine annavad... kuid reaalsus jääb ikka.. et osa bitcoine ju ohust tekkinud... ja kui sutsu on tekkinud.. siis maavälised saavad mis iganes koguse tektiada...
ja kuna enamus inimesed on aetud majanduslikku raskusesse... ja eestis suruti seadus läbi kus välismaalased vovad osta eesti ÄRA nüüd meilt, ja meid siit välja tõsta KUI soovivad, reaalselt, tulevikus... sest nad ostavad IGAVESEKS.. sest kujutavad ette.. et saavad maa osta inimesed.. ja usuvad nii tugevalt.. et ostavad ja panevad teisi ka uskuma... pool pärnust juba on kokku ostetud läbi kolmanda välimsaa firmadega mis eesti frimade kuues siin ka muid metsasi ja maid ostavad... osad ise autopiloodil,,, kes suure hooga trillionitega ära ostetakse... ... ja siis saadakse võim sedasi kätte labi tava maa inimese lollitamiste.. et seadusega saavad Elus puud ma saagida, haldjate elukohad energia vabaks teha ja maagilised pollud üles kaevata... ja siis tõepoolest.. meil nagu eriti palju enam võimu järgi ei jää... kui uskuda, et Eesti maa on üks maa kus võluvõim meid vabaduse äärel on hoidnud... kuigi töö orjuses.. siis vähemalt suurema osa hinged on alles hoitud.. kuigi praegu juba üle 30% on vist otseselt otsustanud oma maa, jumala ja naise teenimise asemele Raha teenima hakata... ja kes raha päriselt teenib.. selle läbi saab mida iganes korda saata... ja talle kui iganes palju raha anda TEGELT ... sest raha jääb alati raha omaniku jaoks.. sa ju TEMA enda systeemis seda kasutada saad... ega sa metsas oravale, talvetaadile ega maagilisele seenele ei saa RAHA anda.. et nad siis sulle toodaksid midagi...
rahaga kyll saad tekitada midagi, midagi panna inimesed tegema mida maakerale vaja... kuid enamasti seda ei tehta, sest "see ei too sisse" ja "ei tooda kasumit" ... umbes nagu raha teenimise point oleks RAHA koguda :D (selle asemel, et selle virtuaalse väljamõeldisega panna manipuleeritud tegema seda mida vaja koigi elusolemiseks 1000a pärast.... 200 aasta vähemalt.. miinimum mis peaksime ette motlema.)
15 November 2014 03:02
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's link.
sin need panevad hullu ka liialt, kuid hulluste vahelt ikka näeb suundi vahemalt mis teemasi neti allmaailma raha suhtes paistakse.. ja
http://politicalvelcraft.org/
http://srsroccoreport.com/china-likely-bought-10000-tons-of-goldand-if-they-did-heres-why/china-likely-bought-10000-tons-of-goldand-if-they-did-heres-why/
http://politicalvelcraft.org/2014/01/21/chinas-23-trillion-rothschild-credit-debt-bubble-is-starting-to-collapse-china-hanging-bankers-while-u-s-is-6-trillion-less-at-17-trillion/
kuid eks igast asju klopsitakse kokku.. siin ei oskagi votta arvamust, sest kui nad bitconi just ei kasuta selleks, et kogu raha sinna sisse imeda, siis sellega füüsilised asjad kokku osta ja siis kvant arvutiga kogu bitcoin alla lasta kukkuda .. nii et koik rahast ilma on.. ja nad ise resursi omanikud virtuaalse raha asemel (mis suure hooga kasvas viies inimesi jõukuse hulluseni... bitcoiniga saab vabalt igale planeedi inimesle anda ka raha teoorias, iga kuu... mis iganes koguse tegel.. ja koik toimiks edasi.. mingi selline imelik maagia..)
http://politicalvelcraft.org/
http://srsroccoreport.com/china-likely-bought-10000-tons-of-goldand-if-they-did-heres-why/china-likely-bought-10000-tons-of-goldand-if-they-did-heres-why/
http://politicalvelcraft.org/2014/01/21/chinas-23-trillion-rothschild-credit-debt-bubble-is-starting-to-collapse-china-hanging-bankers-while-u-s-is-6-trillion-less-at-17-trillion/
kuid eks igast asju klopsitakse kokku.. siin ei oskagi votta arvamust, sest kui nad bitconi just ei kasuta selleks, et kogu raha sinna sisse imeda, siis sellega füüsilised asjad kokku osta ja siis kvant arvutiga kogu bitcoin alla lasta kukkuda .. nii et koik rahast ilma on.. ja nad ise resursi omanikud virtuaalse raha asemel (mis suure hooga kasvas viies inimesi jõukuse hulluseni... bitcoiniga saab vabalt igale planeedi inimesle anda ka raha teoorias, iga kuu... mis iganes koguse tegel.. ja koik toimiks edasi.. mingi selline imelik maagia..)
http://politicalvelcraft.org/
15 November 2014 02:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Masscommunication
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLEu00yuL0k
http://lyricstranslate.com/en/massikommunikatsioon-84-mass-communication.html
From Evening newspapers am about to know
that, who has been gotten by death
With a chair am forcing my self behind a TV
in colours iridescent (glittering) screen
R:
Pleasant mass communication
lala laa laa laa,
lala lal lal lal lal laa
Dear faraway information
... so, (like that then...)
In China has floods, Denmark has wind
our kind has anyway smiles on faces (also paralel ironic "but we doing anyway good" )
{Investigating the material space and scratching the moon}
still there is something new
Old Ones has radio and youth has a voice
all in one is "Voice of People"
All kind of news on the Earth land
tells announcer voice
Without information can not be
need that like an air
Withe out forecast cant know the weather
if not bad, then is good
ehk siis...
"Massikommunikatsioon '84"
Õhtustest lehtedest teada ma saan
seda, kes surma on saand
Tooliga teleri ette end aan
värvides veikleb ekraan
R:
Mõnus massikommunikatsioon,
lala laa laa laa,
lala lal lal lal lal laa
Kallis kauge informatsioon
...niisiis
Hiinas on uputus, Taanis on tuul
meitel on naer ikka suul
{Uurivad ruumi ja kaapavad kuu}
ikka on midagi uut
Raukadel raadio ja noortel on hääl
kokku on kõik 'Rahva Hääl'
Kõiksugu uudiseid maakera pääl
pajatab diktori hääl
Informatsioonita olla ei saa
vajan kui õhku ma
Ilmaprognoosita ilma ei tea
kui pole halb, siis on hea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLEu00yuL0k
http://lyricstranslate.com/en/massikommunikatsioon-84-mass-communication.html
From Evening newspapers am about to know
that, who has been gotten by death
With a chair am forcing my self behind a TV
in colours iridescent (glittering) screen
R:
Pleasant mass communication
lala laa laa laa,
lala lal lal lal lal laa
Dear faraway information
... so, (like that then...)
In China has floods, Denmark has wind
our kind has anyway smiles on faces (also paralel ironic "but we doing anyway good" )
{Investigating the material space and scratching the moon}
still there is something new
Old Ones has radio and youth has a voice
all in one is "Voice of People"
All kind of news on the Earth land
tells announcer voice
Without information can not be
need that like an air
Withe out forecast cant know the weather
if not bad, then is good
ehk siis...
"Massikommunikatsioon '84"
Õhtustest lehtedest teada ma saan
seda, kes surma on saand
Tooliga teleri ette end aan
värvides veikleb ekraan
R:
Mõnus massikommunikatsioon,
lala laa laa laa,
lala lal lal lal lal laa
Kallis kauge informatsioon
...niisiis
Hiinas on uputus, Taanis on tuul
meitel on naer ikka suul
{Uurivad ruumi ja kaapavad kuu}
ikka on midagi uut
Raukadel raadio ja noortel on hääl
kokku on kõik 'Rahva Hääl'
Kõiksugu uudiseid maakera pääl
pajatab diktori hääl
Informatsioonita olla ei saa
vajan kui õhku ma
Ilmaprognoosita ilma ei tea
kui pole halb, siis on hea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLEu00yuL0k
14 November 2014 10:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
neurorock.
Singer Vinger is an Estonian punk rock band. It was founded in 1986, before that being named Pära Trust (Backside trust, 1979–83), Turist (Tourist, 1983–84) and Aken (Window) among others; the name Singer Vinger was picked by authorities, because "Turist" was deemed inappropriate by the Soviet Estonian ministry of culture. Its leader, songwriter and singer is and has been throughout the name changes Hardi Volmer. Main themes in band's songs are social-critic irony and humour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9LfkCef58&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX&index=24
Ma ei usu näärimeest ka präänikute eest
ma ei usu kaukameest ka paberi eest
ma ei usu elumeest ta naeratuse eest
ma ei usu reisumeest ta piltide eest
sun ei usu ma usun ei usu
katsuda tahaksin ma
kui ainult kätega katsuda saan
usun kõiki päiksetõuse seni kuni saan
ussidesse usun ma ja kalasse ka
usun kõiki olevusi seni kuni saan
usun nende olemisse õhus ja maal
usun sooja pesu sisse seni kuni saan
sussidesse sallidesse sonisse ka
usun keedukartulisse seni kuni saan
puljongisse pirukasse armunud ma
ma ei usu päkapikke kummutite peal
ma ei usu puudritoosi imesse eal
ma ei usu hinnetesse tunnistuse peal
ma ei usu triipudesse kannika peal
usun ei usu ma usun ei usu
katsuda tahaksin ma
kui ainult kätega katsuda saan.
Singer Vinger is an Estonian punk rock band. It was founded in 1986, before that being named Pära Trust (Backside trust, 1979–83), Turist (Tourist, 1983–84) and Aken (Window) among others; the name Singer Vinger was picked by authorities, because "Turist" was deemed inappropriate by the Soviet Estonian ministry of culture. Its leader, songwriter and singer is and has been throughout the name changes Hardi Volmer. Main themes in band's songs are social-critic irony and humour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9LfkCef58&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX&index=24
Ma ei usu näärimeest ka präänikute eest
ma ei usu kaukameest ka paberi eest
ma ei usu elumeest ta naeratuse eest
ma ei usu reisumeest ta piltide eest
sun ei usu ma usun ei usu
katsuda tahaksin ma
kui ainult kätega katsuda saan
usun kõiki päiksetõuse seni kuni saan
ussidesse usun ma ja kalasse ka
usun kõiki olevusi seni kuni saan
usun nende olemisse õhus ja maal
usun sooja pesu sisse seni kuni saan
sussidesse sallidesse sonisse ka
usun keedukartulisse seni kuni saan
puljongisse pirukasse armunud ma
ma ei usu päkapikke kummutite peal
ma ei usu puudritoosi imesse eal
ma ei usu hinnetesse tunnistuse peal
ma ei usu triipudesse kannika peal
usun ei usu ma usun ei usu
katsuda tahaksin ma
kui ainult kätega katsuda saan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9LfkCef58&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX&index=24
14 November 2014 09:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
14 November 2014 08:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
*oi nÄe, hoopis 10 pattu oli laulus ja hinged küll aga ukse omad... /(laul jasonadsuts teised.. suts )
14 November 2014 08:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
So in short here is some websites:
http://www.merticus.com/vampirism.html
http://drinkdeeplyanddream.com/
http://www.sanguinarius.org/
http://www.vampirismforum.com/t378-the-real-but-forgotten-vampire-community
http://realvampirenews.com/ (take look at conference room! kena)
http://sphynxcatvp.nocturna.org/
http://askavampire.blogspot.com/
http://www.vcmb.org/
http://realvamp.zzn.com/
http://blackswanhaven.org/
http://www.suscitatio.com/research/definitions.html
http://www.atlantavampirealliance.com/educational.html
http://vampcentral.net/forum/
http://realvampires.tribe.net/
http://www.merticus.com/vampirism.html
http://drinkdeeplyanddream.com/
http://www.sanguinarius.org/
http://www.vampirismforum.com/t378-the-real-but-forgotten-vampire-community
http://realvampirenews.com/ (take look at conference room! kena)
http://sphynxcatvp.nocturna.org/
http://askavampire.blogspot.com/
http://www.vcmb.org/
http://realvamp.zzn.com/
http://blackswanhaven.org/
http://www.suscitatio.com/research/definitions.html
http://www.atlantavampirealliance.com/educational.html
http://vampcentral.net/forum/
http://realvampires.tribe.net/
http://www.merticus.com/vampirism.html
13 November 2014 08:11
Margus Meigo commented on Nana Kojo's photo.
get more high less stoned
13 November 2014 07:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
and
"Other than the obvious terms, these self-declared vampires in the so called Vampire Community use terms that they invented, such as energy vampires, "psychic vampires", sexual vampires, "sanguinarius", sangs, and with some extreme posers they use the term "vampyre". These groups convince people that have classic cases of mental illnesses, such as psychotic depression, that their symptoms of psychotic depression are vampire traits. This kind of dark psychology in the Community of self-declared Vampires must be stopped and the only weapon against it is spreading the truth about what a real vampire is"
Important note in the group that calls itself the Vampire Community you aren't allowed to question the idea of some one being a real vampire, even though most of them definitely are not a real vampire. Proposing much more logical and scientifically founded explanations that contradict they're false belief of being a real vampire, or practicing any real form of skepticism within the group that calls itself the "Vampire Community" quickly gets you hated, even though they claim to be skeptical of themselves as they are feeding each others delusions.
Also note that many of the people in the group that calls itself the "Vampire Community" demonstrate the classic symptoms of psychotic depression, and are taught that a lot of the symptoms of it are vampire traits. Another psychological tactic used by people in this so called community is enabling, both of which have effected multiple people of almost every age group, in a bad way. All of this and more happens in the massive collection of poser groups, that call themselves the vampire community.
In reverse you will witness the same results of trying to take a child from their father, from the people leading that group. The other members exhibit the same behavior of some one that is about to lose their own biological brother or sister. Where as real vampires if told that they aren't a real vampire will just look at you, give you that you're retarded smile, and generally leave it at that.
http://www.vampirewebsite.net/vampirecommunity.html
"Other than the obvious terms, these self-declared vampires in the so called Vampire Community use terms that they invented, such as energy vampires, "psychic vampires", sexual vampires, "sanguinarius", sangs, and with some extreme posers they use the term "vampyre". These groups convince people that have classic cases of mental illnesses, such as psychotic depression, that their symptoms of psychotic depression are vampire traits. This kind of dark psychology in the Community of self-declared Vampires must be stopped and the only weapon against it is spreading the truth about what a real vampire is"
Important note in the group that calls itself the Vampire Community you aren't allowed to question the idea of some one being a real vampire, even though most of them definitely are not a real vampire. Proposing much more logical and scientifically founded explanations that contradict they're false belief of being a real vampire, or practicing any real form of skepticism within the group that calls itself the "Vampire Community" quickly gets you hated, even though they claim to be skeptical of themselves as they are feeding each others delusions.
Also note that many of the people in the group that calls itself the "Vampire Community" demonstrate the classic symptoms of psychotic depression, and are taught that a lot of the symptoms of it are vampire traits. Another psychological tactic used by people in this so called community is enabling, both of which have effected multiple people of almost every age group, in a bad way. All of this and more happens in the massive collection of poser groups, that call themselves the vampire community.
In reverse you will witness the same results of trying to take a child from their father, from the people leading that group. The other members exhibit the same behavior of some one that is about to lose their own biological brother or sister. Where as real vampires if told that they aren't a real vampire will just look at you, give you that you're retarded smile, and generally leave it at that.
http://www.vampirewebsite.net/vampirecommunity.html
http://www.vampirewebsite.net/vampirecommunity.html
13 November 2014 05:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
and for good:
38. Having only half of the traits listed does not make you a half vampire, it makes you nothing special. The only difference between a real vampire and a normal human is 1 endogenous retrovirus, making it impossible to be half vampire. The difference between a normal human and an ape is 3 endogenous retroviruses, making it a lot more likely for some one to be half ape than it is for them to be a half vampire. It is impossible to be a half-vampire, anyone that thinks otherwise is a total idiot.
"For those that wonder how I know I'm a vampire, or are asking themself who is this guy to judge me, this is how I know that I am a vampire, and you gave me the right to judge you the moment you came to me for my opinion"
"Do you really need me to ask you more of these questions? All of these can be passed off as just a coincidence, although how many coincidences can happen at the same time for the same person? Synchronicity a word coined by DR. Carl Jung, which basically states that it is not just a mere coincidence for something like that to happen."
" Not to mention, if you only knew how many people that think they are vampires, give me hell because they don't have any of these traits. Those people really should learn about something known as enabling and not complain to me about it."
http://www.vampirewebsite.net/howknowifavampire.html
38. Having only half of the traits listed does not make you a half vampire, it makes you nothing special. The only difference between a real vampire and a normal human is 1 endogenous retrovirus, making it impossible to be half vampire. The difference between a normal human and an ape is 3 endogenous retroviruses, making it a lot more likely for some one to be half ape than it is for them to be a half vampire. It is impossible to be a half-vampire, anyone that thinks otherwise is a total idiot.
"For those that wonder how I know I'm a vampire, or are asking themself who is this guy to judge me, this is how I know that I am a vampire, and you gave me the right to judge you the moment you came to me for my opinion"
"Do you really need me to ask you more of these questions? All of these can be passed off as just a coincidence, although how many coincidences can happen at the same time for the same person? Synchronicity a word coined by DR. Carl Jung, which basically states that it is not just a mere coincidence for something like that to happen."
" Not to mention, if you only knew how many people that think they are vampires, give me hell because they don't have any of these traits. Those people really should learn about something known as enabling and not complain to me about it."
http://www.vampirewebsite.net/howknowifavampire.html
http://www.vampirewebsite.net/howknowifavampire.html
13 November 2014 05:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Full Flamind Red album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tobmuHcNxUs&list=PLUq3WbtLD9Yl0NtyNfTtdzYfZ3G7Tawbf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tobmuHcNxUs&list=PLUq3WbtLD9Yl0NtyNfTtdzYfZ3G7Tawbf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tobmuHcNxUs&list=PLUq3WbtLD9Yl0NtyNfTtdzYfZ3G7Tawbf
12 November 2014 10:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Why patty:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6oaXe2lw1Q
Thinking Of ya lyrics
Comparisons are easily done
Once you've had a taste of perfection
Like an apple hanging from a tree
I picked the ripest one, I still got the seed
You said move on, where do I go?
I guess second best is all I will know
'Cause when I'm with him I am thinking of you
(Thinking of you, thinking of you)
Thinking of you, what you would do
If you were the one who was spending the night
(Spending the night, spending the night)
Oh, I wish that I was looking into your eyes-eyes
You're like an Indian Summer in the middle of winter
Like a hard candy with a surprise center
How do I get better once I've had the best?
You said there's tons of fish in the water, so the waters I will test
He kissed my lips, I taste your mouth, oh!
(Taste your mouth)
He pulled me in, I was disgusted with myself
'Cause when I'm with him I am thinking of you
(Thinking of you, thinking of you)
Thinking of you, what you would do
If you were the one who was spending the night
(Spending the night, spending the night)
Oh, I wish that I was looking into
You're the best, and yes, I do regret
How I could let myself let you go
Now, now the lesson's learned
I touched it, I was burned
Oh, I think you should know!
'Cause when I'm with him I am thinking of you
(Thinking of you, thinking of you)
Thinking of you, what you would do
If you were the one who was spending the night
(Spending the night, spending the night)
Oh, I wish that I was looking into your, your eyes
Looking into your eyes, looking into your eyes
Oh, won't you walk through
And bust in the door and take me away?
Oh, no more mistakes
'Cause in your eyes I'd like to stay, stay.
s
Good that we can moove in time, perhaps thse who need to be moved as well will be moved
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6oaXe2lw1Q
Thinking Of ya lyrics
Comparisons are easily done
Once you've had a taste of perfection
Like an apple hanging from a tree
I picked the ripest one, I still got the seed
You said move on, where do I go?
I guess second best is all I will know
'Cause when I'm with him I am thinking of you
(Thinking of you, thinking of you)
Thinking of you, what you would do
If you were the one who was spending the night
(Spending the night, spending the night)
Oh, I wish that I was looking into your eyes-eyes
You're like an Indian Summer in the middle of winter
Like a hard candy with a surprise center
How do I get better once I've had the best?
You said there's tons of fish in the water, so the waters I will test
He kissed my lips, I taste your mouth, oh!
(Taste your mouth)
He pulled me in, I was disgusted with myself
'Cause when I'm with him I am thinking of you
(Thinking of you, thinking of you)
Thinking of you, what you would do
If you were the one who was spending the night
(Spending the night, spending the night)
Oh, I wish that I was looking into
You're the best, and yes, I do regret
How I could let myself let you go
Now, now the lesson's learned
I touched it, I was burned
Oh, I think you should know!
'Cause when I'm with him I am thinking of you
(Thinking of you, thinking of you)
Thinking of you, what you would do
If you were the one who was spending the night
(Spending the night, spending the night)
Oh, I wish that I was looking into your, your eyes
Looking into your eyes, looking into your eyes
Oh, won't you walk through
And bust in the door and take me away?
Oh, no more mistakes
'Cause in your eyes I'd like to stay, stay.
s
Good that we can moove in time, perhaps thse who need to be moved as well will be moved
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6oaXe2lw1Q
12 November 2014 10:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Thank You for love Karen
12 November 2014 08:23
Margus Meigo commented on PRINDI.ee's photo.
Näe Kreeta ka sinimustvalge
12 November 2014 07:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Jim Steinman
Ta on kirjutanud laule Bonnie Tylor, Celine Dion ja The Sisters of Mercyga tegi ka paar laulu.
Teeb Bonniega uut albumit praegu, mis 2015 peaks valmis saama.
Räägiti, et neil alguses oli enne olematult raske ühegi plaadifrimaga ja muusika tööstusega lepingut saada, kõik lükkasid AASTAID neid tagasi ja ütlesid, et nad ei tea ei muusikast ega selle kirjutamisest midagi.
Lopuks kui said vaevaga plaadi valmis ja ühe vaiksema plaadi firma nõusse, siis koheselt olid väga populaarsed.
Praegu on ta arvestatav kui üks maaila parimaid artiste müügi poolest, üle 80millioni koopia.
Arvan, et neil raskusi oli lisaks tavapärasele ka see, et tende laulu teemad ja esitus on sügavalt südant liigutavad ja heade, religiooni lähedaste soovidega.
Nad isikuliselt sellised inimesed kes tahavad oma juurte juurde jääda ja sügavat emotsioonilist tunnetust inimestesse tuua mis aga viisnurgaga kokku ei lähe minu arust.
"Steinman and Meat Loaf had immense difficulty finding a record company willing to sign them. According to Meat Loaf's autobiography, the band spent most of 1975, and two and a half years, auditioning Bat out of Hell and being rejected. CBS executive Clive Davis even claimed that Steinman knew nothing about writing, or rock music in general. Recording started in 1976 in Bearsville, near Woodstock. After numerous further rejections, the album was released by Cleveland International Records in October 1977. The album was an immediate success
Steve Popovich said that it was around 40 million copies
In 1989 the album Original Sin was released. The album artist name is Pandora's Box. Pandora's Box referred to a group assembled by Steinman, including, officially, four female singers and Steinman himself.
Original Sin included the original recording of "It's All Coming Back To Me Now," sung by Elaine Caswell.
Two songs from this album "It Just Won't Quit" and "Good Girls Go to Heaven (Bad Girls Go Everywhere)" were re-recorded and released on Bat out of
In 1995, Bonnie Tyler released the album Free Spirit, featuring two tracks produced and written by Steinman. They were dance versions of the past hits "Two Out of Three Ain't Bad" and "Making Love Out of Nothing at All"
In October 2014, Bonnie Tyler told Daily Sabah that she is again working with Jim Steinman on a new album. "We have already chosen some great rock pieces," she stated.] It is due to be completed in 2015"
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/JimSecondNight.jpg
Ta on kirjutanud laule Bonnie Tylor, Celine Dion ja The Sisters of Mercyga tegi ka paar laulu.
Teeb Bonniega uut albumit praegu, mis 2015 peaks valmis saama.
Räägiti, et neil alguses oli enne olematult raske ühegi plaadifrimaga ja muusika tööstusega lepingut saada, kõik lükkasid AASTAID neid tagasi ja ütlesid, et nad ei tea ei muusikast ega selle kirjutamisest midagi.
Lopuks kui said vaevaga plaadi valmis ja ühe vaiksema plaadi firma nõusse, siis koheselt olid väga populaarsed.
Praegu on ta arvestatav kui üks maaila parimaid artiste müügi poolest, üle 80millioni koopia.
Arvan, et neil raskusi oli lisaks tavapärasele ka see, et tende laulu teemad ja esitus on sügavalt südant liigutavad ja heade, religiooni lähedaste soovidega.
Nad isikuliselt sellised inimesed kes tahavad oma juurte juurde jääda ja sügavat emotsioonilist tunnetust inimestesse tuua mis aga viisnurgaga kokku ei lähe minu arust.
"Steinman and Meat Loaf had immense difficulty finding a record company willing to sign them. According to Meat Loaf's autobiography, the band spent most of 1975, and two and a half years, auditioning Bat out of Hell and being rejected. CBS executive Clive Davis even claimed that Steinman knew nothing about writing, or rock music in general. Recording started in 1976 in Bearsville, near Woodstock. After numerous further rejections, the album was released by Cleveland International Records in October 1977. The album was an immediate success
Steve Popovich said that it was around 40 million copies
In 1989 the album Original Sin was released. The album artist name is Pandora's Box. Pandora's Box referred to a group assembled by Steinman, including, officially, four female singers and Steinman himself.
Original Sin included the original recording of "It's All Coming Back To Me Now," sung by Elaine Caswell.
Two songs from this album "It Just Won't Quit" and "Good Girls Go to Heaven (Bad Girls Go Everywhere)" were re-recorded and released on Bat out of
In 1995, Bonnie Tyler released the album Free Spirit, featuring two tracks produced and written by Steinman. They were dance versions of the past hits "Two Out of Three Ain't Bad" and "Making Love Out of Nothing at All"
In October 2014, Bonnie Tyler told Daily Sabah that she is again working with Jim Steinman on a new album. "We have already chosen some great rock pieces," she stated.] It is due to be completed in 2015"
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/JimSecondNight.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/JimSecondNight.jpg
12 November 2014 07:09
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Lee's post.
Marvin Lee Aday, Meatloaf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QGMCSCFoKA
well, ... he is still working, but we need on some of that .. look the video then you know.. and, yes, he does sing from personal experiece.. he has been in underworld and back as well, like many of us: ))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QGMCSCFoKA
well, ... he is still working, but we need on some of that .. look the video then you know.. and, yes, he does sing from personal experiece.. he has been in underworld and back as well, like many of us: ))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QGMCSCFoKA
12 November 2014 06:37
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's photo.
thats a bit harsh, omg
12 November 2014 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
But still.. what happened to hes brain that he left Katy .. this is beon me... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rRQBeNRyMk (Russiel in video, jes) ... and yes, words are for real.
Every promise should be for ever.-
Now.. just tie wearing political tool ... but still.. he heart is chnaged for life time.. so he will end up to be good still and become free from these who force him to vear tie..
Every promise should be for ever.-
Now.. just tie wearing political tool ... but still.. he heart is chnaged for life time.. so he will end up to be good still and become free from these who force him to vear tie..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rRQBeNRyMk
12 November 2014 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
For download this mp3: http://picosong.com/f7jw/
http://picosong.com/f7jw/
11 November 2014 06:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Yes, this what you say Will, is , IS needed and am just doing my part.. pərˈpeCH(əw)əl machine of goodnes in to the wilderness of love
So women does not have to sing and feel like..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT0fBGY47-s we would have flesh of life
So women does not have to sing and feel like..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT0fBGY47-s we would have flesh of life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT0fBGY47-s
10 November 2014 21:21
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
for sure
10 November 2014 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
am can actually be considerate as well and see beauty and smartness on that slogan but just wanted to make sure that we make distinction in here, female is not of the same value of human or peoples as male is
and anyone who in enforcing this idea has to do some self discovery
sorry for getting tripped off
Happy fathers day bdw!
(oh and this slogan implies like the spirit of male would be complete retards all and think something opposite to something am told and this is just insulting to whole man kind, am not having this one as well )
and anyone who in enforcing this idea has to do some self discovery
sorry for getting tripped off
Happy fathers day bdw!
(oh and this slogan implies like the spirit of male would be complete retards all and think something opposite to something am told and this is just insulting to whole man kind, am not having this one as well )
9 November 2014 11:11
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
maybe not most, there is many insane meems, but for the scale how horrible idea it is.. it scores high on evilness.
what you mean women have to start to put them self on to position that man are in... bring them self same low and that accomplices what exactly ? Then star to re educate us again in 100 years "we meant to say..."
people are just a shell that different spirits are using, it is like telling we are a package, f that
and when am joining by body with a female spirit am am KNOW this is higher experience because of what is feminine is not really computable by male brain.. and as we think people value is.... compared what man do to each other... (u know, JUST a punch of electrodes!) then ....am wanna see this brainiak who made up this slogan and thought that is good in any period of time .. and why they had no true female friends who would explain to them who they are by giving them some God given LSD, for starters. before mushrooms
what you mean women have to start to put them self on to position that man are in... bring them self same low and that accomplices what exactly ? Then star to re educate us again in 100 years "we meant to say..."
people are just a shell that different spirits are using, it is like telling we are a package, f that
and when am joining by body with a female spirit am am KNOW this is higher experience because of what is feminine is not really computable by male brain.. and as we think people value is.... compared what man do to each other... (u know, JUST a punch of electrodes!) then ....am wanna see this brainiak who made up this slogan and thought that is good in any period of time .. and why they had no true female friends who would explain to them who they are by giving them some God given LSD, for starters. before mushrooms
9 November 2014 11:00
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
this is most retarded slogan am have seen and probably, made up by some gay anti female alien communists
9 November 2014 10:58
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
hard news .. hard news.. i thought todays world there is no need to assasinate.. so many other tools... killing is for a weak who lacks skils and trust of game play and spirits
9 November 2014 10:57
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
You mean assasinate _
9 November 2014 10:57
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's post.
Look that video as well> https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=3A383B8CC1D03D22&id=3A383B8CC1D03D22!2111&v=3
And please, stop this communist dark propaganda about about illuminate to be something we here can grasp and imagine it to be bad as ones work is to direct our thinking in to ways as creation needs.
How so smart people over the net out bitty end up on this same trap and starting to make these people down who try to bring us up ... by doing whatever it takes so you will end up on some of Her Real message... and start to look all of it from that point of view... starting from Et to Ghost.. to Her joy of lord songs ... how many dark label singers you know even dare to touch with love these topics _?
If we can not put Her lyrics meaning, and picture together.. then better to not even look any CONspiracy topic to much as they are way more complicated.. or look at Her Hot and Cold.. and think what a man in black do in there.. and message to man.. (the rainbow religious agreement symbol, Zebra.. ad the "party like" homo and fake friends infiltrated ending..with music to give an hint what kind of parody the agreement with women is done.. packed with deep truths that are to sad for main stream to reveal to not ruin the commercial video point
http://www.wikihow.com/Love-Your-Wife-According-to-the-Bible
And please, stop this communist dark propaganda about about illuminate to be something we here can grasp and imagine it to be bad as ones work is to direct our thinking in to ways as creation needs.
How so smart people over the net out bitty end up on this same trap and starting to make these people down who try to bring us up ... by doing whatever it takes so you will end up on some of Her Real message... and start to look all of it from that point of view... starting from Et to Ghost.. to Her joy of lord songs ... how many dark label singers you know even dare to touch with love these topics _?
If we can not put Her lyrics meaning, and picture together.. then better to not even look any CONspiracy topic to much as they are way more complicated.. or look at Her Hot and Cold.. and think what a man in black do in there.. and message to man.. (the rainbow religious agreement symbol, Zebra.. ad the "party like" homo and fake friends infiltrated ending..with music to give an hint what kind of parody the agreement with women is done.. packed with deep truths that are to sad for main stream to reveal to not ruin the commercial video point
http://www.wikihow.com/Love-Your-Wife-According-to-the-Bible
9 November 2014 00:18
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's post.
or maybe she just wanted to make joke of all these people who clap on everything ...as you can see she cares less for Her women side now.. that is sad but then again.. who knows what is the game of female... to save our souls
not the best respect for some one as Good as Katy work anyway.. at least She could have give some respect or nice greetings to someone who is making on Her own way what Beatles and others have working on on their good mind (Madonna, Jackson, .... list is huge of the singers who have worked for the good side, to wake our hearts but work with powerful force is directed to... as they was shy about the truth, .. but Katy is MUCH more open about.. Higher forces must be on Her side that She is still alive... daring to expose so much... even taking her album name as Prism.. ehehe.. hide that >p
not the best respect for some one as Good as Katy work anyway.. at least She could have give some respect or nice greetings to someone who is making on Her own way what Beatles and others have working on on their good mind (Madonna, Jackson, .... list is huge of the singers who have worked for the good side, to wake our hearts but work with powerful force is directed to... as they was shy about the truth, .. but Katy is MUCH more open about.. Higher forces must be on Her side that She is still alive... daring to expose so much... even taking her album name as Prism.. ehehe.. hide that >p
9 November 2014 00:02
Margus Meigo commented on SB.TV's video.
thank you, this was worth to hear the video
8 November 2014 23:51
Margus Meigo commented on SB.TV's video.
She perhaps just wanted to make fun of all these people who clap on everything
8 November 2014 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
can work in other-way as well, .. but will go right again then after a time
8 November 2014 23:46
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Can you imagine ... this kind of uy.. from WW one times basically... and looking these godless people including the camera man like.. "i just feel sad for you all"
8 November 2014 23:45
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
moned korrad inglismaal salaja yysel ika kaisin pargis neile toitu viimas mis kokku korjanud olin >D
8 November 2014 23:43
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Mind ka arritas kui yeldi, et ma ei tohi rottidele toitu jatta parki
8 November 2014 23:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Tuult saab kinni hoida küll kui see Just Erlend pole
8 November 2014 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
8 November 2014 02:48
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=irule
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=irule
8 November 2014 02:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Now you want that am would post rest of the text here, do you ?
8 November 2014 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
i like the deliberately collaborate part a lot (Y)
8 November 2014 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
yeah i know, its hurting
There is lot of clothing to choose from but am still loving the material of old one.. and even some of the styles are so perfect.. once we got it all washed..., it is good material you know.. just the stile and usage is nõrgas mõttes metsapoole
There is lot of clothing to choose from but am still loving the material of old one.. and even some of the styles are so perfect.. once we got it all washed..., it is good material you know.. just the stile and usage is nõrgas mõttes metsapoole
8 November 2014 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Liisa Sarapik's photo.
Nii ilus naine!
8 November 2014 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Liisa Sarapik's photo.
Ta puhkab rahus kuid soovime või ei on alati kus ta soovib meil
8 November 2014 01:58
Margus Meigo commented on Katy Perry's photo.
Yes.. and this is am feeling... even positive estimate...
And if we should take in to note.. how Female REALLY must be treated by man.. then....
am so delighted that Creation is so kind, to still keeping us here .. evolving... slow.. but for sure.. there is only one finish as soon man see that keys to heaven is available freely by surrendering to nature, god, women
And if we should take in to note.. how Female REALLY must be treated by man.. then....
am so delighted that Creation is so kind, to still keeping us here .. evolving... slow.. but for sure.. there is only one finish as soon man see that keys to heaven is available freely by surrendering to nature, god, women
7 November 2014 03:19
Margus Meigo commented on Fiona Carbis's link.
True god creation
6 November 2014 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
this is the question am troubled to answer
6 November 2014 20:15
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
calm Jess.. calm jes.. remember what i just say.. do not obey the actions that seem to be provocations eg. do not take to personally or you will take it in to yourself. ...Bryan is free flyer.. he is not connected to these feelings and troubles from same kind of mind set.. from another world ..for a while.. : )
6 November 2014 20:12
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's link.
if its Muslim company or in Muslim values country ad this sing is looked as slap in to face.. as it means something that is not with good values of Abraham or other world religion main doctrines... then we SHOULD look in to these things yes...
For sure there is thousands of packing labeling that have to be looked with wish to make recommendation for changes as its all information what go in to our mind and inside water what you drink
For sure there is thousands of packing labeling that have to be looked with wish to make recommendation for changes as its all information what go in to our mind and inside water what you drink
6 November 2014 20:03
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
I really feel like i know this girl... is she the Lithuanian cool girl from squat .. just can not recall the name...
6 November 2014 19:55
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
This guy on picture looks good, he probabaly deseves this living for what he has seen and done for the world compared to us jet...
But yea, nothing so fanny really Bryan.
Actually we should be happy about any person who is doing better as long we know for sure, it is a human so one can know how to be thankful what one got. Its a dark side trick on our mind on long term plan.. to make us thin selfish bitter thoughts so by the Law of Cosmos we are pushed behind on the line JUST for having these kind of thoughts.... and jes, you your self as part of the cosmic government accepted and enforced these laws as well to yourself..to have balanced world. probably, jes?
Have you not used LSd and such to know the other levels of mind and governance in and around us ? ... that like.. you are watched, in mind, feeling when you smoke cannabis ? Did you think it was a useless random brain chemical reaction (as some try to believe dreams are ?)
... did you think word "hallucinogen" means something what propaganda tells you in school or does it have proper soul and reality clarifying meaning (as people with degrees who actually Know Personally what we might be dealing with say... something what religious people have been telling long ago..and shamans... and love language of women.. just its so vast and wide huger then large...that to grasp every corner and to put it in human linear language (or even Poem that uncrypt in every mind).. might be a little ... a little to little.. even thought..language IS vastly powerful tool... one of the top power tools in these worlds if used in co-operation with heart
But yea, nothing so fanny really Bryan.
Actually we should be happy about any person who is doing better as long we know for sure, it is a human so one can know how to be thankful what one got. Its a dark side trick on our mind on long term plan.. to make us thin selfish bitter thoughts so by the Law of Cosmos we are pushed behind on the line JUST for having these kind of thoughts.... and jes, you your self as part of the cosmic government accepted and enforced these laws as well to yourself..to have balanced world. probably, jes?
Have you not used LSd and such to know the other levels of mind and governance in and around us ? ... that like.. you are watched, in mind, feeling when you smoke cannabis ? Did you think it was a useless random brain chemical reaction (as some try to believe dreams are ?)
... did you think word "hallucinogen" means something what propaganda tells you in school or does it have proper soul and reality clarifying meaning (as people with degrees who actually Know Personally what we might be dealing with say... something what religious people have been telling long ago..and shamans... and love language of women.. just its so vast and wide huger then large...that to grasp every corner and to put it in human linear language (or even Poem that uncrypt in every mind).. might be a little ... a little to little.. even thought..language IS vastly powerful tool... one of the top power tools in these worlds if used in co-operation with heart
6 November 2014 19:53
Margus Meigo commented on Rocío Gdr's photo.
Ola Fasola :*
6 November 2014 08:50
Margus Meigo commented on Maarja Külm's photo.
is he still in office ? : )
6 November 2014 08:46
Margus Meigo commented on Maarja Külm's photo.
Kus on ikka kurgupoolist :p
6 November 2014 08:44
Margus Meigo commented on Eline Bötger's photo.
What was these 2 older guys names and two other ones with red ties? .. can recall the positions almost for all but..
Remember teaching the one with classes word in Estonian as the he had learned on last visit was something out of my vocabulary at first hearing
Hugs to everyone, all still alive and uniting the species? : )
My self doing .. same as before .. but even a few degrees lower.
Remember teaching the one with classes word in Estonian as the he had learned on last visit was something out of my vocabulary at first hearing
Hugs to everyone, all still alive and uniting the species? : )
My self doing .. same as before .. but even a few degrees lower.
6 November 2014 08:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://youtu.be/hKBv_9M0Od0
@ Antti Räsänen "Miracles i will do in instant, impossible takes a little bit longer"
@ Antti Räsänen "Miracles i will do in instant, impossible takes a little bit longer"
http://youtu.be/hKBv_9M0Od0
6 November 2014 05:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://youtu.be/ggqDgjWEsoY
http://youtu.be/ggqDgjWEsoY
6 November 2014 05:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
holy crap:
" In Sweden the cost of immigration has been estimated at 250 billion SEK every year, that's 6,8% of GDP, that's our defence budget several times over, which is 1,13% of GDP. "
In real money its 34 Billion dollars,
comparison:
the new 1776 feet, that is over half a kilometer tall, over 100 floors, New York One World Trade Center building cost is only 3.9 billion dollars..
So its in other words like 8 epic Trade Center cost... that Swedes pay per year supposedly.. that what happens if you let aliens run your country ...
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1040881/pg1http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1040881/pg1
6 November 2014 01:08
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
and can you imagine... England is marketed as one of the Good places of World...
... i was in one other country walking romantic walk in early morning and stumbled up to one dead person ... all western and ignorant i started to worry what should we do and who to call,
She told me "no worry, street cleaning service will take care of it.. it happens a lot here, many people..."
And she was dear good sensitive person .. just the some places the death around you is everyday thing and everyone is be on past of blaming or hopping that government is wanting or can do anything in this dark world of sins,
(am not sure if the story was all like that bu remember something like that... )
But yeah... it is extreme shame.. where we are ended up..
and that its hard to see for people.. how big part of London is owned by really really dark forces for species study and production.
They are the ones who mostly try to talk "science" and rational things to you and recirculate anything near spiritual ... who talk in TV about money or pseudo things instead about how to eat magic mushrooms or love women
... i was in one other country walking romantic walk in early morning and stumbled up to one dead person ... all western and ignorant i started to worry what should we do and who to call,
She told me "no worry, street cleaning service will take care of it.. it happens a lot here, many people..."
And she was dear good sensitive person .. just the some places the death around you is everyday thing and everyone is be on past of blaming or hopping that government is wanting or can do anything in this dark world of sins,
(am not sure if the story was all like that bu remember something like that... )
But yeah... it is extreme shame.. where we are ended up..
and that its hard to see for people.. how big part of London is owned by really really dark forces for species study and production.
They are the ones who mostly try to talk "science" and rational things to you and recirculate anything near spiritual ... who talk in TV about money or pseudo things instead about how to eat magic mushrooms or love women
6 November 2014 00:40
Margus Meigo commented on Erik Miido's photo.
..seni kuni veel taimseid elus hingega puude lehti jägub.. need õnnelikud kes seda tunnet edasi pärandada oskavad
6 November 2014 00:31
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
everything to call me down and then the last sentence "Too much is always better then not enough"
6 November 2014 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's link.
Sellel kõigel väga palju erinevaid maiseid ja mitte maised pohjuseid, kuid ilma, et nodest rääkima hakkan jagan lihtsalt algse tagasihoidliku alguse kuhu suunas kiirelt teel oleme...
www.freewebs.com/nancycrow .. kuid see on alles pehme algus..
ja miks ?
Sest uuringud naitavad.. et vanemate juures kasvavad inimesed võivad liialt suure tõenäosusega peale koiki meelte eristusi endiselt hoida südamed soojad ja elu lähedased...
www.freewebs.com/nancycrow .. kuid see on alles pehme algus..
ja miks ?
Sest uuringud naitavad.. et vanemate juures kasvavad inimesed võivad liialt suure tõenäosusega peale koiki meelte eristusi endiselt hoida südamed soojad ja elu lähedased...
http://www.freewebs.com/nancycrow
6 November 2014 00:28
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's photo.
ohh you photo it ?
yes it does get better, paradise is still coming up :p
yes it does get better, paradise is still coming up :p
5 November 2014 22:51
Margus Meigo commented on Erik Miido's photo.
lugesin alguses, et lapsega
5 November 2014 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on Erik Miido's photo.
aa wau, siiani oled ennast piiranud? ... kuid jah.. need lapsepolve illusioonid ja traamad koikse raskem lahti saada. kuid lapsed teavad kuidas opetada
5 November 2014 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on Erik Miido's photo.
chamoon see pudel oli meelde tuletuseks nende kordade eest kui noorena hoolimatult lasid sopradel pudeleid katki visata... kuid ega siis selle haava parast ei saa elu elamata jaada.. kasu pyherdamisest suurem ikka kui kahju haavast mis yli harva juhtuda voib ... muidu jaame vatikarpidesse,,, kuid jahm ise ka suts pelgan paljajalu vooras vee sulberdada.. silme ees pidevalt... me inimesed ikke nii lihtsalt kontrollitavad... turvalisuse nimel anname vabaduse lihtsalt...
5 November 2014 17:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
loads of something that is needed less
5 November 2014 04:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
as you can see, loads
5 November 2014 04:05
Margus Meigo commented on Philipp Beyrl's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
There is no argument really, even thought religion is emparisment for god, man sad attempt to serve nature god and women... then still, in this world here Religion is good and only higher knowledge that can get humans on to right track *(on time, with least amount of suferers)5 November 2014 04:04
Margus Meigo commented on Philipp Beyrl's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
its simple and true, fakt5 November 2014 04:04
Margus Meigo commented on Philipp Beyrl's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
there is no argument, religion wins
apples are better then oranges5 November 2014 04:03
Margus Meigo commented on Jelena Jovanovic's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
eat that nazis5 November 2014 03:59
Margus Meigo commented on Jelena Jovanovic's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
its public normal law in Germany that you are not allowed to share your home connection for exchanging private files for others, eg let others use ur connection ... in some way we can say they revolutionary.. other they asked for it and it was matter of time... what should have been police do , talk them out from it +?
its a law, and its powerful country, they needed entire world and soviet army + hard witchcraft to call on cold winter to take them down.
And they have been put down 2+ times, destroyed, raped, entire world turned against them and blaming them on crimes that was done BY FAR worst and larger scale FOR SURE by five star people.. *(there is not question a lot about Star people crimes but there is conspiracy
about gas chamber like how come no one up to this day knows how these chambers would be working on reality on that scale.. * from country who documented all murders and pen designs they forget to document that ... and its not like Egypt pyramid.. we should have some architects in this day with all the scientific wh would be able to prove the scenario but there is none... )
.. BDW.. just for THAT thought you can be arrested on HARD time in Germany if ... but walking around with 5 star t shirts or open up communist pub Berlin city centre is allowed ... regime that raped systematically more humans then other armies in human history combined , as it was official tool to bioenergetically ruin species for future,
Please look up Pjotr Garjaev
to know what i mean, why the rape was used... as they know that stuff from religion long time, that man and women become energetically one and manipulative many generations often after that... this war was way deeper then metal weapons.. as it was from other type of knowledge doers..
we live 5 star media now long time ago, religious people groups and some cults and hippies with peasants *(as me_+) are main groups left ... few Muslim county's still struggle as we can see...
why am even started to talk about that.. oh, we need to free Russia and all other nations from other then earth people power who are on the side of religion and royals / the last two also needs our help so they can help us... they know the situation thousands of years... and longer. Communist capitalists... ism... all same that does not directly support female, nature and spiritual higher values with shamanism support.
Your key to heaven is proper surrender to female and from Her heart you can get to timeless space and life they call forever,
This is what ALL the thing is here... to confuse you from most important.. and her as well.. so she would be sure.. you are one of the ones who even does not know telepathy and time travel.. so she can communicate with u low level only.. as your thoughts are open really.. this is also a trick they forget to mention... there is no secrets... but we ourself make our self to submit to wrong doers and then abusing love by keep serving money instead serving a life giver, a Women5 November 2014 03:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
lol, even quicken bookkeeping is running >p5 November 2014 03:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
where is Vadim Bitner _?
true@ Daniel Scott Smith
but yeah, all that and running proper virtual 2k for 90Mb.. will praise that any time
should have made processes screener as well.. i think i did, should look in to it, when ever can access to these old drives5 November 2014 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Berta's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
priceless combination of picture and topc5 November 2014 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Berta's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
am not spinning up paranoia but am not trustier of anyone promoting tie5 November 2014 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on Caroline Smalley's photo.
not really related to that but kind of remind me.. thought first its about mind mapping.. well, it is kind of
5 November 2014 01:12
Margus Meigo commented on Caroline Smalley's photo.
am actually started to make brain manual, lost the draft unfortunately *(am think there was some part in manual about carelessness ... )
5 November 2014 01:10
Margus Meigo commented on Caroline Smalley's link.
supper great!
5 November 2014 01:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
,pisar,
nii ilus
nii ilus
5 November 2014 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Eesti Kunstiakadeemia | Estonian Academy of Arts
Voi kuidas tegelt arvatakse ja mis on olukord4 November 2014 20:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
nice
needs still more then 90megs i bet >p4 November 2014 18:31
Margus Meigo commented on Clayton S Fletcher's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
also for parking and shopping. pretty safe
http://mobile.id.ee/
http://cyber.ee/uploads/2013/05/formal_analysis_of_the_estonian_mobile-id_protocol.pdf
Its dated now on quantum age but hey.. upgrades are coming.
Still spiritual infiltration and reverse bioengineering is the arias we have to advance to keep minds and structures safehttp://mobile.id.ee/
4 November 2014 18:23
Margus Meigo commented on Clayton S Fletcher's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
we have been using cell phones to elect country statesman and pay for any imaginable bank transfer and taxis you can imagine,
Up to now has been still more secure then before and has not seen any major exploits ...
but yeeah.. these doors are another thing if they choose4 November 2014 18:22
Margus Meigo commented on Philipp Beyrl's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
and ya forget main part> it opened most people eyes for the internet and dangers that come with it
and it still rules4 November 2014 18:19
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Berta's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
we will see...4 November 2014 18:18
Margus Meigo commented on Illimar Saatväli's post.
Group: Arvutid ja komponendid
Kuid void proovida uurida Toomas Tartes <toomas@toomastartes.com> ja Taavi Ilves <ilves.taavi@gmail.com
Nad v'ga timmilt ja soodsalt aitasid igas asjus vanasti4 November 2014 17:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
like this EMT sticker... kept my mind on home land...
4 November 2014 17:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
actually i,we can, more often..
4 November 2014 17:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
tosi ta on, usku peab olema!
4 November 2014 17:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
mis ma nuud nii paks olin.. kuid yeah, menyy oli ikka tunduvalt rammusam
--
10+ years later, traveling on many seas and living in far to many places... still got this frog and picture : * ...and situation, same
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10+ years later, traveling on many seas and living in far to many places... still got this frog and picture : * ...and situation, same
4 November 2014 17:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
and he was not really a star person >P ...just more great
4 November 2014 17:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
that what gets hackers off the road.. alcohol, cigarettes, crap food and no girls in nature
4 November 2014 17:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
she was one of the most lovely persons from whom am meet there i believe, among many other, entire island was full with friendly people actually.. but she had this special professional warm smart quality
4 November 2014 17:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
can you imagine.. you can read for free, am so innovative
4 November 2014 16:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
round corners would have cost way more >p
4 November 2014 16:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
+ the live animation skin.. with fish inside ... so, *(in layman terms as am i..)
now i got 4GB of ram with 2x2000 or t7200 and 10+ years later and then i open few to many tabs then computer freezes on default human settings on windows and on Linux... progress?
can not see it is...
Almost unrelated,
---
How can i explain Moore Law and danger of AI to my mother based on these clear real life fails.
no need to even go to these technocrat communists wet dreams. just lets hope artificial intelligent does not require flash and Ad tracker
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_change#Moravec.27s_Mind_Children
now i got 4GB of ram with 2x2000 or t7200 and 10+ years later and then i open few to many tabs then computer freezes on default human settings on windows and on Linux... progress?
can not see it is...
Almost unrelated,
---
How can i explain Moore Law and danger of AI to my mother based on these clear real life fails.
no need to even go to these technocrat communists wet dreams. just lets hope artificial intelligent does not require flash and Ad tracker
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_change#Moravec.27s_Mind_Children
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_change#Moravec.27s_Mind_Children
4 November 2014 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
warm and jahe...
4 November 2014 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Mölter's photo.
uued bioenergjad ja vaimud, kass neid asju samm terasamalt tunneb kui me teame olemas olevat... kuid nagu Regina utles, vast ikka parem kui inimesel kohe hea kodulooma kontakt, hoitke lihtsalt molemal armastavat koosolemise fookust... siis kass ka lapse eest hoolitseb hoopis omal moel
4 November 2014 13:18
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Mölter's photo.
vaga hea pilt!
4 November 2014 13:12
Margus Meigo commented on Enit Arusoo's photo.
Eks siis nüüd tead ka selles elus mis sünnipäev on..
4 November 2014 12:44
Margus Meigo commented on Enit Arusoo's post.
Arukas elu maailmas juures !
4 November 2014 12:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
hea meelde tuletada kui kiireks voi igavaks peaaegu laheb
4 November 2014 03:02
Margus Meigo commented on Estonian Anonymous's photo.
NU kui sa oled juba 37 sekundit lugenud ja loed edasi siis oled oma motlemist muutnud, kuidas te pihta ei saanud >p
4 November 2014 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
i really mean, that ya guys have extra ordinary writtings, that word "polish" usually already gives an hint there is something good coming
(had to explain, just in case you are slow and sensitive as well, i know you got the irony part right...)
(had to explain, just in case you are slow and sensitive as well, i know you got the irony part right...)
3 November 2014 21:26
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
u polish are so humble
3 November 2014 21:23
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
" This dream is not awailable in your state "
Am even not starting to read it jet as know how good it is, have to prepare for it and remove all my 20+ tabs that are open before.
Looks awesame so far (with out reading)
http://www.wolnepasmo.pl/albeitmenot/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/this_dream_is_not_available-300x205.jpg
Am even not starting to read it jet as know how good it is, have to prepare for it and remove all my 20+ tabs that are open before.
Looks awesame so far (with out reading)
http://www.wolnepasmo.pl/albeitmenot/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/this_dream_is_not_available-300x205.jpg
http://www.wolnepasmo.pl/albeitmenot/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/this_dream_is_not_available-300x205.jpg
3 November 2014 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
did genka list him self as well?
3 November 2014 21:05
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's link.
so there should be just app that tells user "nice boobs inside, do you want to open" (as artificial intelligenza can idendify anything todays world.. soon)...
or if u are specially religious you can turn on Hamash mode and see message "(possibily) Insulting to Allah" + Do you want to know what it is about ?
Yes: Its about female, do you want to proceed,
Yes: its about body parts, do you wanna know what parts?
Yes: its about boods, do you wanna see?
Yes: We got ID mach from the same nipples uploaded to and FB account and nightclub assosiated to the 28 years old single women, would you like her phone number or send her a email with your thoughts?
No,
Return to the sender SMS: "Hey thanks dude, rabbi liked her as well, will go by her place, its near our mosq"
Exit
Are you sure you wanna exit or do you wanna send her some Bitcoins directly for letting her boobs picture to go to internet and make your day bettter?
No exit,
Reason: Pray
Okey sir, have nioce day, may the God be with you!
this is some nice interaction with coputers that will be way more sofisticated and around the corner already ,right now
or if u are specially religious you can turn on Hamash mode and see message "(possibily) Insulting to Allah" + Do you want to know what it is about ?
Yes: Its about female, do you want to proceed,
Yes: its about body parts, do you wanna know what parts?
Yes: its about boods, do you wanna see?
Yes: We got ID mach from the same nipples uploaded to and FB account and nightclub assosiated to the 28 years old single women, would you like her phone number or send her a email with your thoughts?
No,
Return to the sender SMS: "Hey thanks dude, rabbi liked her as well, will go by her place, its near our mosq"
Exit
Are you sure you wanna exit or do you wanna send her some Bitcoins directly for letting her boobs picture to go to internet and make your day bettter?
No exit,
Reason: Pray
Okey sir, have nioce day, may the God be with you!
this is some nice interaction with coputers that will be way more sofisticated and around the corner already ,right now
3 November 2014 20:15
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's link.
and what you think about it? Is it good? can it be better, how?
thinking wrongly should be illegal as well,
it is actually.. but many still do not get it
thinking wrongly should be illegal as well,
it is actually.. but many still do not get it
3 November 2014 19:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
3 November 2014 19:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"When everything is completely integrated, when your heart, mind, and body are acting as one vehicle, your life starts to become something very beautiful. Your expression is natural, unique, and right. Your creativity flows. Your heart is opened.
And you no longer seek anything outside of yourself. You are internally validated.
Life becomes effortless when you are not trying to become anything. Your existence becomes one of expressing and expanding the awesomeness of what already is.
Your desires, your dreams, your purpose, and your contribution to the world becomes one and the same. This is what it means to live with the extinction of boundaries. This is what it means to be completely and radically congruent."
This is probabaly true, but it still leaves possibility that we got here things we need to make sure does not exist in no ones mind, as child prostitution, water polution and poliical partys that work Against each other
i know the first two is be on many people to think how to stop this but how the third one is still legaly accepted as good option is be on me
And you no longer seek anything outside of yourself. You are internally validated.
Life becomes effortless when you are not trying to become anything. Your existence becomes one of expressing and expanding the awesomeness of what already is.
Your desires, your dreams, your purpose, and your contribution to the world becomes one and the same. This is what it means to live with the extinction of boundaries. This is what it means to be completely and radically congruent."
This is probabaly true, but it still leaves possibility that we got here things we need to make sure does not exist in no ones mind, as child prostitution, water polution and poliical partys that work Against each other
i know the first two is be on many people to think how to stop this but how the third one is still legaly accepted as good option is be on me
3 November 2014 18:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Doris Lessing considered that the essential theme of The Golden Notebook was "that we must not divide things off, must not compartmentalise. 'Bound. Free. Good. Bad. Yes. No. Capitalism. Socialism. Sex. Love...'".
... jah sure, just keep telling to people that everything is the same... :p
"Otto Kernberg has used the term bridging interventions for the therapist's attempts to straddle and contain contradictory and compartmentalized components of the patient's mind." + Good luck with that, you need help, do you ?
I need, for helping you to help me to help you to help others so we can help each other,
is that to simplistic ?
... jah sure, just keep telling to people that everything is the same... :p
"Otto Kernberg has used the term bridging interventions for the therapist's attempts to straddle and contain contradictory and compartmentalized components of the patient's mind." + Good luck with that, you need help, do you ?
I need, for helping you to help me to help you to help others so we can help each other,
is that to simplistic ?
3 November 2014 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
jup, elementary math
3 November 2014 14:53
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
unless other people beliefs totally suck and need to be changed for the betterment of all :D
3 November 2014 02:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mõne jaoks pole gravitatsioon ka tõestatud, mida ajate :p
3 November 2014 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on Redips Lanigro's video.
good to see you guys are high:p
2 November 2014 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
This is good one!2 November 2014 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on Redips Lanigro's video.
hehehehey my friends!!!! Greets poland and the new guy with bling bling ! This is one high place you are there, stay alive!
2 November 2014 22:45
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
Hey, did not even notice its ya Alf, Good luck man! All the best as well! :))2 November 2014 22:42
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
maybe pecause its turned to "closed group" .. lets make it open again, why we should allow only governemnt and secret societys to know what we do and think instead normal youth in facebook.-.. if you self limit yourself on the age when is hard enought to get name out.. then ... there is no one to blame.. if there is no one around soon..2 November 2014 22:42
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
how come this group so quiet come that these messages and people here not alive anymoe?2 November 2014 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
nothing to think, feel or dream here.. move along on the li(n)e
ps: irony
ps: irony
2 November 2014 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on John Green's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
Lorraine Murphy .. yeah do not let them get pissed in the maginations.. teach some love : )2 November 2014 17:08
Margus Meigo commented on Salvador Olguín's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
For me the www.spi.dod.mil/lipose.htm works well but lets see what these guys offer. Please do not flame people of ANY kind of linux offerings before you have look in to it,
its propacanda pias and it sucks, There just might be ONE bit of solution you need in your slack box.. newer know before looking. Plug in another GSM internet stick and let it run wild... .. plug it in to another network and monitor what it will do... if looking code to much of a work. But just do not come to flame here like that, its really UN-linuxy
Peace, mmkay? : )http://www.spi.dod.mil/lipose.htm
2 November 2014 17:06
Margus Meigo commented on Adam Balog's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
and about the Tor... hey this is for millitary use anyway.. so if ya aint one then think twice why you use it, how you use it and how big actual possibilty is that whatever is you usage in collective the owners of net Will use your usage for whatever greater usage on human study they have.
Presentation in pentagon on topic "Why we need to keep tor project running"
"So.. as we can see from the graph here, this kind of tor link users are interested of..."2 November 2014 16:56
Margus Meigo commented on Adam Balog's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
Can you imagie if facebook should boost everyones egos who tuned in to common mind field and imagines all the ideas they first time discovered in their head are in fackt originally theirs only, and can be only used on benafit of planet if first tweeter gets hes dollars for it..
screw it, Gabber Brasilien pointed TOS is actually in a way alright. There is also moral part of putting at least person name somewhere who ALSO notified about it or something... but hey.. its a moral guestion and you can only guestion about morals or demand some if there is,
if there is cosneptual understanding what is morals and have they been here all the time or are they just temorally tools for advancement on screwing with someones progress... in future.2 November 2014 16:50
Margus Meigo commented on Marius Corîci's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
true, this is how sad it is. Kind of reminds me the farming... so we are beoon that point with grandmother.. a lot, long time ago.
Have you seen latelly guys who like to touch their iPod more then girl? ... there was old time guys who like to touch dick more then girls but now we gone be on that as well.2 November 2014 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on Hijo Nubes Delas's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
Here we go: http://www.oldversion.com/windows/mozilla-firefox-4-0 (Uses JägerMonkey, a new, faster JavaScript engine that is up to six times faster than Firefox 3.6. Support for the Do Not Track ("DNT") ...)
Solved, next question.
(Chromoon guys you do know he asked ironically right ?)http://www.oldversion.com/windows/mozilla-firefox-4-0
2 November 2014 16:42
Margus Meigo commented on Mason Combs's post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
there is more 2 main types, ones who know love and others who do not (and third kind who has had taste of it)
knowing love has clearly superior properties and am can proove it with my flawles logic (as Bill Hick says)2 November 2014 16:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
and man can touch that, who say we less then perfectly blessed?
2 November 2014 05:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
and all that can fit in to a girl
2 November 2014 05:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Wou, this is a bout best new data i have found from internet in last .. o boy, long time. as its for sure True and Way ahead and before The time of any past war and way further then any future AI can evolve,
is not even measurable on human scale how tiny is the biggest threat on the excistance of time scale compared to Love
is not even measurable on human scale how tiny is the biggest threat on the excistance of time scale compared to Love
2 November 2014 05:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:. no need to try to "get" that one, this is self inner humor, have sometimes mind work to get it my self
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbEtkqg1iY8
http://zdravv.ru/watch/vbEtkqg1iY8/the-plastic-jesus-song.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbEtkqg1iY8
http://zdravv.ru/watch/vbEtkqg1iY8/the-plastic-jesus-song.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbEtkqg1iY8
2 November 2014 04:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
still need to give my self to a wife, to secure most important, first
2 November 2014 04:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
.:.
http://www.qsl.net/n/n9zia//vision/ for more (look the links bottom)http://www.qsl.net/n/n9zia//vision/
2 November 2014 03:36
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
this just is
2 November 2014 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
...ja selle tumeda ala peale.
Kumb on suurem revolutsionäär, kas Lenin või Toots? -
Toots, sest ta värvis kogu maakera punaseks, Lenin ainult Euroopa.
Tegi tä küll kulladsõq kol(lõ)hoosiq,
tegi tä küll saagidsõq sav(võ)hoosiq. /.../
Koiraq meil küllõ kulatski seieq,
sarviguq meil küll saia ar seieq./.../
Raha-ommaq-tuustaq meil kyik tooli päällä,
raha-ommaq-pakiq meil kyik pad'a alla.
Sedä kasõ meile kyik viil Lenin tegi,
tegi tä küll tarka viil küll talopoiga./.../
--
http://www.folklore.ee/tagused/nr4/nali3.htm
Ja veel muud nalja:
http://www.marxists.org/eesti/m-e/1878/anti-duhring.pdf
http://www.marxengelslenin.org/about.html
Kumb on suurem revolutsionäär, kas Lenin või Toots? -
Toots, sest ta värvis kogu maakera punaseks, Lenin ainult Euroopa.
Tegi tä küll kulladsõq kol(lõ)hoosiq,
tegi tä küll saagidsõq sav(võ)hoosiq. /.../
Koiraq meil küllõ kulatski seieq,
sarviguq meil küll saia ar seieq./.../
Raha-ommaq-tuustaq meil kyik tooli päällä,
raha-ommaq-pakiq meil kyik pad'a alla.
Sedä kasõ meile kyik viil Lenin tegi,
tegi tä küll tarka viil küll talopoiga./.../
--
http://www.folklore.ee/tagused/nr4/nali3.htm
Ja veel muud nalja:
http://www.marxists.org/eesti/m-e/1878/anti-duhring.pdf
http://www.marxengelslenin.org/about.html
http://www.folklore.ee/tagused/nr4/nali3.htm
1 November 2014 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"..innustavaks eeskujuks ideelise veendumuse kohta on Marxi, Engelsi, Lenini tegevus. Marx ütles, et veendumuseks muutunud ideed on nii võimsad köidikud, et nendest vabanemiseks tuleb puruks kiskuda omaenda süda.”
--
"Kommunistliku kasvatuse esmajooneliseks ülesandeks on „õige teadusliku maailmavaate”, nn. d i a l e k t i l i s e m a t e r i a l i s m i sisendamine. Õige teadus, see tähendab kuivõrd ta ei ole ekspluataatorlike klasside teenistuses, olevat ammugi kindlaks teinud, et ürgselt ja iseseisvalt on olemas ainult aine, et „elu ise pole muud kui valkkehade olu kuju, millede oluliseks momendiks on alatine ainevahetus neid ümbritseva välisloodusega”5), et „vaim ise on mateeria (peaaju) ülim produkt”6) jne.
Lõpliku viimistluse sellele marksistlikule „filosoofiale” on andnud S t a l i n i s i k l i k u l t ÜK(b)P lühikursuse neljandas peatükis oma kirjutisega „Dialektilisest ja ajaloolisest materialismist”, mis peab endast kujutama kogu inimliku tarkuse tuuma.
Nähtavasti ei saanud nii vastutusrikast ülesannet endale võtta keegi muu kui kommunistlik paavst-keiser ise"
http://www.nommevalitsus.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7894&Itemid=67&lang=et
"Teoreetiliselt on õpetuse eesmärk ikka olnud ühekülgselt i n t e l l e k t u a l i s t l i k – t e h n i l i n e . „Vaimu” all mõistab ju bolševism ainuüksi intellektuaalseid võimeid ning nende edukas rakendamine sotsialistliku ühiskonna ülesehituses nõuab vastavat oskust – tehnikat. Nagu nõukogude insenerid ja tehnikud ehitavad sotsialistlikku majandust, nii kirjanikud, „hingeinsenerid” (Stalini järgi), kujundavad rahva sotsialistlikku teadvust.
Kooliõpetaja ülesannegi on samuti „tehniline”; mitte juhuslikult ei ole nimetatud nõukogude õppejõudude ettevalmistusasutused „pedagoogilisteks tehnikumideks”. Endise kooli õpetuse eesmärgid, nagu südameharidus, vaimse isiksuse kujundamine jm. On endastmõistetavalt hüljatud. Et vaim ei ole midagi muud kui teatav mateeria omadus, tähendab sellegi kasvatamine mateeria otstarbekat organiseerimist vastavate õigete võtetega."
Selle intellektuaalse-tehnilise koolikasvatuse metoodiline külg on nõukogude võimu kestel teinud läbi tähelepanuväärse ringi.
"Kogemused on jõudnud nõukogude kodanikku küllalt õpetada, et iga väljendus, mis ei ole kooskõlas avalikult kuulutatud rahva „üldise arvamusega”, võib saada talle saatuslikuks. Ei ole sugulaste, sõprade ega tuttavate ringkonda, mida ta võiks selles mõttes usaldada. Vaevalt julgeb ta endamisigi muud mõelda kui seda, mida n ä i l i k u l t kõik õigeks peavad. Mitte „selgitustöö” ja teoreetilise „klassiteadvuse tõstmisega” ei pääsenud bolševism Venemaal võidule, vaid rahva m a d a l a m a t e t u n g i d e j a i n s t i n k t i d e ü l e s p i i t s u t a m i s e g a ."
"Bolševistlik kihutustöö vallandas vihkamise, kadeduse ja ahnuse vene rahvamasside alateadvuses, mis siia oli aja jooksul kuhjunud tsaaride ja aadli väärvalitsemise tagajärjel, eriti Peeter I alates. Omadused, mida seni iga kultuurrahva eetika oli tunnustanud kurjuseks, inimese madalama, loomaliku loomuse avalduseks, tunnustati bolševikkude poolt p e a v o o r u s t e k s , proletaarse klassiteadvuse põhielementideks. Neist aetuna märatsesid siis rahvamassid kõige vastu, mis Venemaal oli paremat, väljapaistvamat, tsaarist kuni „kulakuni”. Olles lõpuks läbi viinud „kollektiviseerimise” ja klassivahede kaotamise, ei saanud bolševikud siiski loobuda vihkamise propagandast. Kapitalistlik ümbrus ei andnud ju Nõukogudemaale iialgi rahu, saates alatasa tema sekka „spioone, lahkhelide sünnitajaid ja muid kahjureid”29). „Sotsialistlikku valvsust” ja „klassivaenlase vihkamist” tuli sellepärast veel eriti süvendada. Iga õige nõukogude kodanik pidi kõiki kahtlustama, silmas pidama, tarbe korral „paljastama ja vastulöögi andma”. Seda enam pidi kõiki kartma ja umbusaldama mitte-kommunistlikult mõtleja. Inimeste vahel pidi seetõttu kaduma igasugune usaldusvahekord, iga avameelne mõttevahetus; pidid katkema kõik olulised hingelised sidemed. Sihikindlalt püüdis bolševistlik võim inimesi muuta h i n g e l i s e l t i s o l e e r i t u k s "
. Ainelised väärtused, eeskätt m a s i n – sotsialistliku ülesehituse sümbol – peab asendama Jumalat tema „müstilises” vene hinges. See toob inimestele lunastuse, mida nad varem Jumalalt asjata olid lootnud, viib nad täielikule õnnele, maisesse paradiisi. Masinat austab ta seepärast tõelise usulise innuga. Selle teenimine, tehnika, on ülim ning austatavaim kunst. Tema enda kõigist endistest usulistest, rahvuslikest, kõlbelistest jm. seostest „vaba” isik võib nüüd täielikult ära kaduda selle masina ning b o l š e v i s t l i k u ü h i s k o n n a t o h u tu t o o t m i s m a s i n a teenistuses, võib takistamatult muutuda ise selle mehhaniseeritud osakeseks – mingiks r o b o t i t a o l i s e k s o l e n d i k s .
Selline on bolševismi tegelik inimideaal, mille olemust fraasid ei saa ilustada. Täielik eksitus on mõnede arvamine, et selle saavutamine tähendaks inimese „tagasilangust” oma arenemisteel paljude sajandite võrra. Sellelaadilist inimest ei ole varem iialgi olnud ning selleks kujunemine tähendaks õieti inimese ajaloo lõppu, tema hävimist, ainult-loomaks muutumist, mis ta marksistliku õpetuse järgi ka tegelikult on. Meie ei taha väita, et Nõukogude Liidus see „ideaal” oleks juba täiesti saavutatud (loodetavasti on see hoopis võimatu), kuid et selles suuri „edusamme” on tehtud, näitavad eriti käesoleva sõja kogemused. Selle poole püüdma pidi asuma Eestigi kool 1940.a. sügisel.
--
"Kommunistliku kasvatuse esmajooneliseks ülesandeks on „õige teadusliku maailmavaate”, nn. d i a l e k t i l i s e m a t e r i a l i s m i sisendamine. Õige teadus, see tähendab kuivõrd ta ei ole ekspluataatorlike klasside teenistuses, olevat ammugi kindlaks teinud, et ürgselt ja iseseisvalt on olemas ainult aine, et „elu ise pole muud kui valkkehade olu kuju, millede oluliseks momendiks on alatine ainevahetus neid ümbritseva välisloodusega”5), et „vaim ise on mateeria (peaaju) ülim produkt”6) jne.
Lõpliku viimistluse sellele marksistlikule „filosoofiale” on andnud S t a l i n i s i k l i k u l t ÜK(b)P lühikursuse neljandas peatükis oma kirjutisega „Dialektilisest ja ajaloolisest materialismist”, mis peab endast kujutama kogu inimliku tarkuse tuuma.
Nähtavasti ei saanud nii vastutusrikast ülesannet endale võtta keegi muu kui kommunistlik paavst-keiser ise"
http://www.nommevalitsus.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7894&Itemid=67&lang=et
"Teoreetiliselt on õpetuse eesmärk ikka olnud ühekülgselt i n t e l l e k t u a l i s t l i k – t e h n i l i n e . „Vaimu” all mõistab ju bolševism ainuüksi intellektuaalseid võimeid ning nende edukas rakendamine sotsialistliku ühiskonna ülesehituses nõuab vastavat oskust – tehnikat. Nagu nõukogude insenerid ja tehnikud ehitavad sotsialistlikku majandust, nii kirjanikud, „hingeinsenerid” (Stalini järgi), kujundavad rahva sotsialistlikku teadvust.
Kooliõpetaja ülesannegi on samuti „tehniline”; mitte juhuslikult ei ole nimetatud nõukogude õppejõudude ettevalmistusasutused „pedagoogilisteks tehnikumideks”. Endise kooli õpetuse eesmärgid, nagu südameharidus, vaimse isiksuse kujundamine jm. On endastmõistetavalt hüljatud. Et vaim ei ole midagi muud kui teatav mateeria omadus, tähendab sellegi kasvatamine mateeria otstarbekat organiseerimist vastavate õigete võtetega."
Selle intellektuaalse-tehnilise koolikasvatuse metoodiline külg on nõukogude võimu kestel teinud läbi tähelepanuväärse ringi.
"Kogemused on jõudnud nõukogude kodanikku küllalt õpetada, et iga väljendus, mis ei ole kooskõlas avalikult kuulutatud rahva „üldise arvamusega”, võib saada talle saatuslikuks. Ei ole sugulaste, sõprade ega tuttavate ringkonda, mida ta võiks selles mõttes usaldada. Vaevalt julgeb ta endamisigi muud mõelda kui seda, mida n ä i l i k u l t kõik õigeks peavad. Mitte „selgitustöö” ja teoreetilise „klassiteadvuse tõstmisega” ei pääsenud bolševism Venemaal võidule, vaid rahva m a d a l a m a t e t u n g i d e j a i n s t i n k t i d e ü l e s p i i t s u t a m i s e g a ."
"Bolševistlik kihutustöö vallandas vihkamise, kadeduse ja ahnuse vene rahvamasside alateadvuses, mis siia oli aja jooksul kuhjunud tsaaride ja aadli väärvalitsemise tagajärjel, eriti Peeter I alates. Omadused, mida seni iga kultuurrahva eetika oli tunnustanud kurjuseks, inimese madalama, loomaliku loomuse avalduseks, tunnustati bolševikkude poolt p e a v o o r u s t e k s , proletaarse klassiteadvuse põhielementideks. Neist aetuna märatsesid siis rahvamassid kõige vastu, mis Venemaal oli paremat, väljapaistvamat, tsaarist kuni „kulakuni”. Olles lõpuks läbi viinud „kollektiviseerimise” ja klassivahede kaotamise, ei saanud bolševikud siiski loobuda vihkamise propagandast. Kapitalistlik ümbrus ei andnud ju Nõukogudemaale iialgi rahu, saates alatasa tema sekka „spioone, lahkhelide sünnitajaid ja muid kahjureid”29). „Sotsialistlikku valvsust” ja „klassivaenlase vihkamist” tuli sellepärast veel eriti süvendada. Iga õige nõukogude kodanik pidi kõiki kahtlustama, silmas pidama, tarbe korral „paljastama ja vastulöögi andma”. Seda enam pidi kõiki kartma ja umbusaldama mitte-kommunistlikult mõtleja. Inimeste vahel pidi seetõttu kaduma igasugune usaldusvahekord, iga avameelne mõttevahetus; pidid katkema kõik olulised hingelised sidemed. Sihikindlalt püüdis bolševistlik võim inimesi muuta h i n g e l i s e l t i s o l e e r i t u k s "
. Ainelised väärtused, eeskätt m a s i n – sotsialistliku ülesehituse sümbol – peab asendama Jumalat tema „müstilises” vene hinges. See toob inimestele lunastuse, mida nad varem Jumalalt asjata olid lootnud, viib nad täielikule õnnele, maisesse paradiisi. Masinat austab ta seepärast tõelise usulise innuga. Selle teenimine, tehnika, on ülim ning austatavaim kunst. Tema enda kõigist endistest usulistest, rahvuslikest, kõlbelistest jm. seostest „vaba” isik võib nüüd täielikult ära kaduda selle masina ning b o l š e v i s t l i k u ü h i s k o n n a t o h u tu t o o t m i s m a s i n a teenistuses, võib takistamatult muutuda ise selle mehhaniseeritud osakeseks – mingiks r o b o t i t a o l i s e k s o l e n d i k s .
Selline on bolševismi tegelik inimideaal, mille olemust fraasid ei saa ilustada. Täielik eksitus on mõnede arvamine, et selle saavutamine tähendaks inimese „tagasilangust” oma arenemisteel paljude sajandite võrra. Sellelaadilist inimest ei ole varem iialgi olnud ning selleks kujunemine tähendaks õieti inimese ajaloo lõppu, tema hävimist, ainult-loomaks muutumist, mis ta marksistliku õpetuse järgi ka tegelikult on. Meie ei taha väita, et Nõukogude Liidus see „ideaal” oleks juba täiesti saavutatud (loodetavasti on see hoopis võimatu), kuid et selles suuri „edusamme” on tehtud, näitavad eriti käesoleva sõja kogemused. Selle poole püüdma pidi asuma Eestigi kool 1940.a. sügisel.
http://www.nommevalitsus.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7894&Itemid=67&lang=et
1 November 2014 03:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
u. 14.8 x 21.5 on paber, tekst ise 13 ja 18cm alal. Läks aega suts, ma siin mitmel rindel1 November 2014 02:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Kinsey wrote about pre-adolescent orgasms using data in tables 30 to 34 of the male volume, which report observations of orgasms in over three-hundred children between the ages of five months and fourteen years.This information was said to have come from adults' childhood memories, or from parent or teacher observation.Kinsey said he also interviewed nine men who had sexual experiences with children, and who told him about the children's responses and reactions. Little attention was paid to this part of Kinsey's research at the time, but where Kinsey had gained this information began to be questioned nearly 40 years later.[28] It was later revealed that Kinsey used data from a single pedophile and presented it as being from various sources. Kinsey had seen the need for participant confidentiality and anonymity as necessary to gain "honest answers on such taboo subjects".The Kinsey Institute wrote that the data on children in tables 31–34 came from one man's journal (started in 1917) and that the events concerned predated the Kinsey Reports"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1447862/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1447862/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1447862/
1 November 2014 02:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tabel 34: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vltmeBPKAAo
... väga raske sedainfot integreerida mida see kõik tähendab kogu selle tulnukate (viisnurga tagused) ja tumedate jõu väliste olevuste seisukohast, kes siin inimliiki uurides penetreerivad me hinge avarusi, räigelt, Enamustel inimestel läheb aju lukku ja ei suudeta fokuseeritult laieneda võrgustikuga millegi nii võika suhtes, eriti arvestades, mida sa siis veel leiad faktina mida su ümber sulguvas ringis rohkem rohkem tehakse... selleks, et aru saada kuidas kõige algsemal tasemel, meid omada.
... väga raske sedainfot integreerida mida see kõik tähendab kogu selle tulnukate (viisnurga tagused) ja tumedate jõu väliste olevuste seisukohast, kes siin inimliiki uurides penetreerivad me hinge avarusi, räigelt, Enamustel inimestel läheb aju lukku ja ei suudeta fokuseeritult laieneda võrgustikuga millegi nii võika suhtes, eriti arvestades, mida sa siis veel leiad faktina mida su ümber sulguvas ringis rohkem rohkem tehakse... selleks, et aru saada kuidas kõige algsemal tasemel, meid omada.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vltmeBPKAAo
1 November 2014 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
.:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz8iEJeh26E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz8iEJeh26E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz8iEJeh26E
1 November 2014 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
If you could channel all of the work that goes into various Linux distributions into one project, it would be unstoppable. It would also be unbelievable, because the nature of open source means that everybody can (and will) do their own thing. Some days, it seems like a shame — but the ability to do your own thing means that Linux can satisfy the needs of the many, and the few. Slackware Linux may not be for everybody, but neither is Ubuntu — and it'd be a damn shame if we only had one or the other.
It's OK if Canonical wants to distance Ubuntu from Linux when it does the marketing thing, and try to jazz up the user interface in yet another attempt to conquer the desktop (and presumably other consumer devices). Maybe they'll succeed where others (many others) have failed. Meanwhile, we still have Slackware keeping the faith and providing its audience with the no-frills Linux experience that the "leet" still love.
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"Damn Vulnerable Linux is exactly what it sounds like. Vulnerable Linux (DVL) is everything a good Linux distribution isn’t. It intentionally is bundled with broken, ill-configured, outdated, and exploitable software that makes it vulnerable to attacks.
It aims to train Linux Admins. And what else could have been better than to hand them a broken distribution to fix? With older/broken versions of Apache, MySQL, PHP, FTP, and SSH, your admins in training will have their hands full."
"In Small, Fedora is for those who want to taste bleeding-edge technology and can’t wait for the program to get stable. Actually Fedora is a testing platform of Red Hat and a product is developed and tested here before entering the Enterprise distro. Fedora is a very nice distro, a large user forum and quiet a lot of packages in its repo."
...AND then there is all these comments about slackware..
http://www.tecmint.com/10-linux-distributions-and-their-targeted-users/
So,
http://www.networkworld.com/article/2229126/opensource-subnet/a-tale-of-two-distros--slackware-13-37-and-ubuntu-11-04-released.html
If you skim through the release notes for Slackware 13.37 or the press release for Ubuntu 11.04, it might be hard to believe we're essentially talking about the same operating system. Despite differences in user interface, management tools, and default applications Slackware and Ubuntu still share most of the software they depend on — the Linux kernel, the GNU utilities, X.org, and so on. But from there, they diverge quite a bit.
Whereas Ubuntu 11.04 is going out into the world with a revamped desktop interface and a lot of features designed to simplify using Linux, Slackware offers a very similar installer and management tools that it did in 1993 — which is to say, very minimal tools.
One insane graph as welL: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg
http://www.slackware.com/info/
It's OK if Canonical wants to distance Ubuntu from Linux when it does the marketing thing, and try to jazz up the user interface in yet another attempt to conquer the desktop (and presumably other consumer devices). Maybe they'll succeed where others (many others) have failed. Meanwhile, we still have Slackware keeping the faith and providing its audience with the no-frills Linux experience that the "leet" still love.
-----
"Damn Vulnerable Linux is exactly what it sounds like. Vulnerable Linux (DVL) is everything a good Linux distribution isn’t. It intentionally is bundled with broken, ill-configured, outdated, and exploitable software that makes it vulnerable to attacks.
It aims to train Linux Admins. And what else could have been better than to hand them a broken distribution to fix? With older/broken versions of Apache, MySQL, PHP, FTP, and SSH, your admins in training will have their hands full."
"In Small, Fedora is for those who want to taste bleeding-edge technology and can’t wait for the program to get stable. Actually Fedora is a testing platform of Red Hat and a product is developed and tested here before entering the Enterprise distro. Fedora is a very nice distro, a large user forum and quiet a lot of packages in its repo."
...AND then there is all these comments about slackware..
http://www.tecmint.com/10-linux-distributions-and-their-targeted-users/
So,
http://www.networkworld.com/article/2229126/opensource-subnet/a-tale-of-two-distros--slackware-13-37-and-ubuntu-11-04-released.html
If you skim through the release notes for Slackware 13.37 or the press release for Ubuntu 11.04, it might be hard to believe we're essentially talking about the same operating system. Despite differences in user interface, management tools, and default applications Slackware and Ubuntu still share most of the software they depend on — the Linux kernel, the GNU utilities, X.org, and so on. But from there, they diverge quite a bit.
Whereas Ubuntu 11.04 is going out into the world with a revamped desktop interface and a lot of features designed to simplify using Linux, Slackware offers a very similar installer and management tools that it did in 1993 — which is to say, very minimal tools.
One insane graph as welL: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg
http://www.slackware.com/info/
http://www.tecmint.com/10-linux-distributions-and-their-targeted-users/
31 October 2014 18:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
31 October 2014 18:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
31 October 2014 18:22
Margus Meigo commented on Margus Kreisman's post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
Väärt kraami ikka meil oli.. kuid eks neid siiani.. aint maksumus on praeguste harjumustele sobimatu (kes siis paar kolm kuupalka sooviks muusika tehnikale tänapäeval kulutada mõeldes, et see normaalne on..)30 October 2014 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on Margus Kreisman's post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
Mul miskid tegelased tüdruku kingitud S90 ned viisid minema eelmine aasta kadakalt :(30 October 2014 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on Sirje Roo's post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
Aga kas see kuskilt filmist?
ei näe just tihti nalja kus mainitakse vägistamist kontekstis kus see sobilik on (või solvav pole)30 October 2014 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
Mul pole pähe tulnutki, et sellistel teemadel arutati sedasi, kas to oli suht tavaline kirjandus või taolist ikka laialt ei loetud ?30 October 2014 19:55
Margus Meigo commented on Casey William Hardison's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
spirit that is connected to that body with love relation is focused in another body ?30 October 2014 03:17
Margus Meigo commented on Casey William Hardison's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
Bobby Bel also talking about tripping out of body when you sleep, can you explain more deeper, what this tripping means for us and why its needed for who ? What is tripping deepest meaning ?30 October 2014 03:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
from the movie, for my own reference (well, like there would be any other kind of reference)
"If it makes you think, then it's done its job beautifully."
"There are a number of other very well-done tidbits throughout the film. For example, David's question to the doctor, "Is this sort of thing possible now?", when describing time travel is something that only a bona-fide time traveler would say, and I remember the audience chuckled in delight at that perfect bit of dialog. Another gem is when David bluntly asks the transvestite in his jail cell, "What the hell are you dressed like that for?" I've known down-to-earth, practically-minded, heterosexual sailors, and that's exactly how they react to our modern era's confusing gender bending. Another gem was David flatly declaring that the water his friend Jim sees in the distance is a mirage, and then Jim ribbing David about David's mistake as they trudge through miles of water."
"This movie is quite endearing simply because it was done so badly. It had just the right amount of ineptitude applied to it to propel it solidly into the so-bad-it's-good basket. Somehow, the wooden acting and cheesy effects doesn't stop you from really caring about the characters, and maybe even thinking that something like this might have really happened."
The Philadelphia Experiment is an entertaining movie, but more for sci fi fans and their girlfriends"
"The "true" story makes a great read and even if only a fraction of it is true, it's a pretty remarkable idea that any of it happened in reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8Rlvm8SfYy8#t=2520
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087910/trivia?ref_=tt_trv_trv
"The US Navy did not support the making of the film as it did not wish to be associated with the alleged true events surrounding the events of Philadelphia Experiment." (compared to the next movie..)
"his film is widely believed to be based on a real-life and ill-fated experiment with invisibility and force fields in the 1940s. However, to the best of any factual knowledge, no such experiment ever occurred and the story was the work of an eccentric loner, Carl Allen, who sent notes on the "experiment" to the government in the 1950s and whose story was later leaked. Despite the lack of any factual evidence, the story has become an urban legend and favorite of conspiracy theorists, who point to the lack of evidence as proof that it's being covered up."
"Director Stewart Rafill rewrote the screenplay so that a love story developed between the characters David and Alison. Rafill also removed a lot of scientific dialog concerning explanations for the why and how of the time travel element of the film."
"The original script had more incidents that demonstrated David's newness to arriving in the new time period. Director Stewart Rafill toned down these elements to concentrate more on the two central characters."
The Final Countdown (1980)
"..An American nuclear aircraft carrier and its crew are caught in a classic dilemma when a supernatural storm sends them back in time just before" ...some of yo usay: been there, done that..
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080736/trivia?ref_=tt_trv_trv
"The picture was made with the full co-operation of the US Navy."
"The time travel storm is the same special effect as seen in The Lathe of Heaven (1980) during the climatic dream sequence confrontation."
"Reportedly, the filming wrapped early on the U.S.S. Nimitz as it was recalled to its home base so that it could take on the helicopters and crew that were used in the ill-fated "Operation Eagle Claw", the attempt to rescue the U.S. Embassy Iranian Hostages in 1980."
"The movie was used as a recruiting drive for the US Navy with the maritime force sponsoring the picture's premiere whilst the film's movie poster was displayed in branch recruitment offices."
"A total of forty-eight real life US Navy personnel from the USS Nimitz were credited in the closing credits for their performances as extras, background artists, or actors, with some having speaking parts"
"The US Navy made a number of filming recommendations which were incorporated into the production shoot with a "B" crew becoming responsible for all the aerial aviation sequences."
"In the mid 1980s the communist government banned the movie in Hungary, claiming it glorified the United States Armed Forces. However, some illegal copies were circulated on VHS with parts about the Russian trawler spying on the USS Nimitz edited out."
from another line:
"Don Taylor previously directed Escape from the Planet of the Apes (1971), another science fiction film involving time travel."
What people say: (search that in there..)
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread60003/pg1
http://archived.parapsych.org/members/a_kaivarainen.html
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread60003/pg2&mem=
Comments:
We need to know who the "players" were in devising the Philadelphia Experiment. William L. Moore, along with UFOlogist and linguist Charles Berlitz, authored the popular paperback, "The Philadelphia Experiment." Moore has since said the book was not factual. I'm sure Berlitz would say otherwise.
But the key players were not fictitious:
R.H. Kent (obituary in Physics Today, July, 1961, p.68)
Mr. F. Reno was acknowledged in a paper by Kent.
R.W. Ladenburg (obituary in Physics Today, May, 1952, p.37)
R.F. Rinehart (b. 1907; Ph.D. 1934; published several engineering papers)
Anyone who has read the book also knows that Albert Einstein is mentioned as having had his unified field theory demonstated on the U.S.S. Eldrige, the ship in the experiment.
With the exception of Ladenburg, the scientists above are all listed in the index of the book. Ladenburg is mentioned on pp182-185,193. My source
for the information provided here is from another book: Tesla's Egg of Columbus, Radar Stealth, The Torsion Tensor, And The Philadelphia Experiment, (one volume), 1994, Corum, Corum, and Daum, Appendix III.
"If it makes you think, then it's done its job beautifully."
"There are a number of other very well-done tidbits throughout the film. For example, David's question to the doctor, "Is this sort of thing possible now?", when describing time travel is something that only a bona-fide time traveler would say, and I remember the audience chuckled in delight at that perfect bit of dialog. Another gem is when David bluntly asks the transvestite in his jail cell, "What the hell are you dressed like that for?" I've known down-to-earth, practically-minded, heterosexual sailors, and that's exactly how they react to our modern era's confusing gender bending. Another gem was David flatly declaring that the water his friend Jim sees in the distance is a mirage, and then Jim ribbing David about David's mistake as they trudge through miles of water."
"This movie is quite endearing simply because it was done so badly. It had just the right amount of ineptitude applied to it to propel it solidly into the so-bad-it's-good basket. Somehow, the wooden acting and cheesy effects doesn't stop you from really caring about the characters, and maybe even thinking that something like this might have really happened."
The Philadelphia Experiment is an entertaining movie, but more for sci fi fans and their girlfriends"
"The "true" story makes a great read and even if only a fraction of it is true, it's a pretty remarkable idea that any of it happened in reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8Rlvm8SfYy8#t=2520
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087910/trivia?ref_=tt_trv_trv
"The US Navy did not support the making of the film as it did not wish to be associated with the alleged true events surrounding the events of Philadelphia Experiment." (compared to the next movie..)
"his film is widely believed to be based on a real-life and ill-fated experiment with invisibility and force fields in the 1940s. However, to the best of any factual knowledge, no such experiment ever occurred and the story was the work of an eccentric loner, Carl Allen, who sent notes on the "experiment" to the government in the 1950s and whose story was later leaked. Despite the lack of any factual evidence, the story has become an urban legend and favorite of conspiracy theorists, who point to the lack of evidence as proof that it's being covered up."
"Director Stewart Rafill rewrote the screenplay so that a love story developed between the characters David and Alison. Rafill also removed a lot of scientific dialog concerning explanations for the why and how of the time travel element of the film."
"The original script had more incidents that demonstrated David's newness to arriving in the new time period. Director Stewart Rafill toned down these elements to concentrate more on the two central characters."
The Final Countdown (1980)
"..An American nuclear aircraft carrier and its crew are caught in a classic dilemma when a supernatural storm sends them back in time just before" ...some of yo usay: been there, done that..
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080736/trivia?ref_=tt_trv_trv
"The picture was made with the full co-operation of the US Navy."
"The time travel storm is the same special effect as seen in The Lathe of Heaven (1980) during the climatic dream sequence confrontation."
"Reportedly, the filming wrapped early on the U.S.S. Nimitz as it was recalled to its home base so that it could take on the helicopters and crew that were used in the ill-fated "Operation Eagle Claw", the attempt to rescue the U.S. Embassy Iranian Hostages in 1980."
"The movie was used as a recruiting drive for the US Navy with the maritime force sponsoring the picture's premiere whilst the film's movie poster was displayed in branch recruitment offices."
"A total of forty-eight real life US Navy personnel from the USS Nimitz were credited in the closing credits for their performances as extras, background artists, or actors, with some having speaking parts"
"The US Navy made a number of filming recommendations which were incorporated into the production shoot with a "B" crew becoming responsible for all the aerial aviation sequences."
"In the mid 1980s the communist government banned the movie in Hungary, claiming it glorified the United States Armed Forces. However, some illegal copies were circulated on VHS with parts about the Russian trawler spying on the USS Nimitz edited out."
from another line:
"Don Taylor previously directed Escape from the Planet of the Apes (1971), another science fiction film involving time travel."
What people say: (search that in there..)
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread60003/pg1
http://archived.parapsych.org/members/a_kaivarainen.html
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread60003/pg2&mem=
Comments:
We need to know who the "players" were in devising the Philadelphia Experiment. William L. Moore, along with UFOlogist and linguist Charles Berlitz, authored the popular paperback, "The Philadelphia Experiment." Moore has since said the book was not factual. I'm sure Berlitz would say otherwise.
But the key players were not fictitious:
R.H. Kent (obituary in Physics Today, July, 1961, p.68)
Mr. F. Reno was acknowledged in a paper by Kent.
R.W. Ladenburg (obituary in Physics Today, May, 1952, p.37)
R.F. Rinehart (b. 1907; Ph.D. 1934; published several engineering papers)
Anyone who has read the book also knows that Albert Einstein is mentioned as having had his unified field theory demonstated on the U.S.S. Eldrige, the ship in the experiment.
With the exception of Ladenburg, the scientists above are all listed in the index of the book. Ladenburg is mentioned on pp182-185,193. My source
for the information provided here is from another book: Tesla's Egg of Columbus, Radar Stealth, The Torsion Tensor, And The Philadelphia Experiment, (one volume), 1994, Corum, Corum, and Daum, Appendix III.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8Rlvm8SfYy8#t=2520
29 October 2014 23:46
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's link.
huvitav, et muidu inimestel on nimed ja tiitlid või miskid erilised asjad mis neid kirjeldab, kuid kui nii vanaks saad siis võid panna CVle "90 Aastane" ja need kes targad, saavad aru et see päris tegija tiitel tegelt, enamasti
29 October 2014 20:26
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's link.
jah, need kes välismaal juba andsid alla ehk..
29 October 2014 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's link.
give be the bottom section half of picture
29 October 2014 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
n ujah, päris hea :p
29 October 2014 20:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Comment:
"Great! Only last night i met a guy who managed to use the word ‘Mason’ and ‘Jesus’ in the same sentence at least 5 times."
"Most conspiracy theories are actually created by the governments,"
"Great! Only last night i met a guy who managed to use the word ‘Mason’ and ‘Jesus’ in the same sentence at least 5 times."
"Most conspiracy theories are actually created by the governments,"
28 October 2014 21:06
Margus Meigo commented on Marelle Nõmm's post.
(õigustuseks..)
aga endal hakkas ikka parem
(paus..) ..emm
(... siin pole vaja selle vist midagi enam lisada)
aga endal hakkas ikka parem
(paus..) ..emm
(... siin pole vaja selle vist midagi enam lisada)
28 October 2014 11:55
Margus Meigo commented on Vilma Pupulis's photo.
i think this camera was on mdma, just looks so great
28 October 2014 11:43
Margus Meigo commented on Vilma Pupulis's photo.
crew looks alive, greets to Wilma! (still got your camera, thanks! : ))
28 October 2014 11:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
and i did mention Pjotr Garjaev already week ago right ?
( and more terms you little kids might know but you thought its "just" Computer Games.. http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Time_Manipulation ) Kristjan Miks u know what i talking about, innit? .. why... :p
( and more terms you little kids might know but you thought its "just" Computer Games.. http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Time_Manipulation ) Kristjan Miks u know what i talking about, innit? .. why... :p
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Time_Manipulation
27 October 2014 08:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Professor Shen JinChuan, the scientist that personally works with Ms. Chu, is fond of stating that these time/space disruptions have been predicted historically within Chinese folklore as “… seven days spent up in a mountain cave, while thousands of years passed in the mundane…”
"One famous woman in China known for her life-long abilities, Ms. Chulin Sun, has worked in special agricultural laboratories. She utilizes her developed abilities to accelerate the germination of specific seeds for the purposes of developing more robust seed stock for China’s marginal agricultural growing areas. To do this work, Ms. Sun puts herself into a deep trance state in which it is observed that she moves into a different time/space. Within this trance, she is able to advance the time required for sprouting dry seeds from their usual 3 to 4 days to a mere 10 minutes, generating a sprout growth of 3 to 4 inches. Genetic samples are analyzed from these ‘mind-interfaced’ sprouts, showing a marked change in their genetic structure."
"Additionally near-by clocks will show the full 10 minutes of time passed, but the cameras will sometimes produce only 1 minute of film time."
While westerners who openly demonstrate mind/matter interface are publicly reviled and discredited, the known EHF’s in China are honored as heroes and celebrities; national treasures that are sought after as teachers, advisors and consultants.
Between 1936 and 1955, Tsien Hsueshen would receive his PhD at Caltech under the supervision of Dr. von Karmen, develop the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), participate in the Manhattan Project, and earn special recognition as one of the top rocket scientists in the U.S. Despite his brilliant career and obvious commitment, Dr. Tsien was deported to China against his will during McCarthyism. Grant Cooper, the attorney hired by Caltech to defend Dr. Tsien would later state, “That the [U.S.] government permitted this genius, this scientific genius, to be sent to Communist China to pick his brains is one of the tragedies of this century.”
As a result, upon his arrival in China, Tsien was immediately compelled to comply with communist party dictates and in doing so, he would become one of the great minds behind China’s metamorphosis and advance its technology and science into the 20th century. This task also required him to develop programs and advance university science training throughout the country. It was during this time that Dr. Tsien was given formal demonstrations by groups of special Chinese citizens who could demonstrate exceptional mind-over-matter abilities.
Following these demonstrations, Tsien wisely established special labs within many of China’s science and technology universities, formally authorized the study and analysis of these abilities, and began to personally train the best and brightest science students in systems science and problem solving skills to carry out this research. Dr. Tsien stated, “If this [phenomenon] is true, everything we know about science is wrong.” He was enough of a visionary to recognize the significance of these abilities towards the development of future scientific theoretical models and technologies.
In the decades since, hundreds of elite, specially trained researchers from a broad spectrum of scientific disciplines within China’s technical Universities have studied the physical phenomena generated by this unique group of people affectionately known as EHF’s or, “Exceptional Human Functions.”
In 2006, I accepted an invitation to visit China and present my experimental research to an elite yet somewhat mysterious group of scientists. These researchers have dedicated much of their professional careers to the study of extraordinary human potential, driven by a passionate thirst to discover the underlying fabric of reality. Their demeanor was friendly and unassuming yet they held some of China’s most prestigious and powerful scientific positions.
During the first week, I was systematically given a cursory overview of decades of research. Additionally, I chatted at length with Ms. Sun Chulin, asking many questions about her personal experience of the EHF work. Despite considerable language barriers, I was treated as a colleague and granted full access to their experimental research archives, something few if any western researcher has ever been granted. – Danielle Graham
Manipulating Time China's Extraordainry Human Potential Research
Human ability that defies the known laws of physics has long been of interest not only to the U.S. government, but to other countries as well. During the Cold War years, western intelligence agencies were primarily scope-locked on Russia as a defensive target. However, China was also very active in identifying and exploiting those who exhibited extraordinary skills.
Certain factions of the Chinese government had already begun to recognize, select and employ their citizens who were shown to naturally possess exceptional mind-over-matter abilities. But it would be the callous actions of the U.S. government during the heinous McCarthy era that would escalate the study of extraordinary yet natural human ability at a national level in China.
Between 1936 and 1955, Tsien Hsueshen would receive his PhD at Caltech under the supervision of Dr. von Karmen...
http://www.superconsciousness.com/blog/manipulating-time-chinas-extraordainry-human-potential-research
"One famous woman in China known for her life-long abilities, Ms. Chulin Sun, has worked in special agricultural laboratories. She utilizes her developed abilities to accelerate the germination of specific seeds for the purposes of developing more robust seed stock for China’s marginal agricultural growing areas. To do this work, Ms. Sun puts herself into a deep trance state in which it is observed that she moves into a different time/space. Within this trance, she is able to advance the time required for sprouting dry seeds from their usual 3 to 4 days to a mere 10 minutes, generating a sprout growth of 3 to 4 inches. Genetic samples are analyzed from these ‘mind-interfaced’ sprouts, showing a marked change in their genetic structure."
"Additionally near-by clocks will show the full 10 minutes of time passed, but the cameras will sometimes produce only 1 minute of film time."
While westerners who openly demonstrate mind/matter interface are publicly reviled and discredited, the known EHF’s in China are honored as heroes and celebrities; national treasures that are sought after as teachers, advisors and consultants.
Between 1936 and 1955, Tsien Hsueshen would receive his PhD at Caltech under the supervision of Dr. von Karmen, develop the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), participate in the Manhattan Project, and earn special recognition as one of the top rocket scientists in the U.S. Despite his brilliant career and obvious commitment, Dr. Tsien was deported to China against his will during McCarthyism. Grant Cooper, the attorney hired by Caltech to defend Dr. Tsien would later state, “That the [U.S.] government permitted this genius, this scientific genius, to be sent to Communist China to pick his brains is one of the tragedies of this century.”
As a result, upon his arrival in China, Tsien was immediately compelled to comply with communist party dictates and in doing so, he would become one of the great minds behind China’s metamorphosis and advance its technology and science into the 20th century. This task also required him to develop programs and advance university science training throughout the country. It was during this time that Dr. Tsien was given formal demonstrations by groups of special Chinese citizens who could demonstrate exceptional mind-over-matter abilities.
Following these demonstrations, Tsien wisely established special labs within many of China’s science and technology universities, formally authorized the study and analysis of these abilities, and began to personally train the best and brightest science students in systems science and problem solving skills to carry out this research. Dr. Tsien stated, “If this [phenomenon] is true, everything we know about science is wrong.” He was enough of a visionary to recognize the significance of these abilities towards the development of future scientific theoretical models and technologies.
In the decades since, hundreds of elite, specially trained researchers from a broad spectrum of scientific disciplines within China’s technical Universities have studied the physical phenomena generated by this unique group of people affectionately known as EHF’s or, “Exceptional Human Functions.”
In 2006, I accepted an invitation to visit China and present my experimental research to an elite yet somewhat mysterious group of scientists. These researchers have dedicated much of their professional careers to the study of extraordinary human potential, driven by a passionate thirst to discover the underlying fabric of reality. Their demeanor was friendly and unassuming yet they held some of China’s most prestigious and powerful scientific positions.
During the first week, I was systematically given a cursory overview of decades of research. Additionally, I chatted at length with Ms. Sun Chulin, asking many questions about her personal experience of the EHF work. Despite considerable language barriers, I was treated as a colleague and granted full access to their experimental research archives, something few if any western researcher has ever been granted. – Danielle Graham
Manipulating Time China's Extraordainry Human Potential Research
Human ability that defies the known laws of physics has long been of interest not only to the U.S. government, but to other countries as well. During the Cold War years, western intelligence agencies were primarily scope-locked on Russia as a defensive target. However, China was also very active in identifying and exploiting those who exhibited extraordinary skills.
Certain factions of the Chinese government had already begun to recognize, select and employ their citizens who were shown to naturally possess exceptional mind-over-matter abilities. But it would be the callous actions of the U.S. government during the heinous McCarthy era that would escalate the study of extraordinary yet natural human ability at a national level in China.
Between 1936 and 1955, Tsien Hsueshen would receive his PhD at Caltech under the supervision of Dr. von Karmen...
http://www.superconsciousness.com/blog/manipulating-time-chinas-extraordainry-human-potential-research
http://www.superconsciousness.com/blog/manipulating-time-chinas-extraordainry-human-potential-research
27 October 2014 07:54
Margus Meigo commented on Christine Mary's post.
Group: The Mushroom Identification Forum
actually in Estonia when people go to pick liberty cap then cops come to hunt the hunters.. with guns.27 October 2014 02:53
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
oh.. i thught u for real.. but its Johnny..
27 October 2014 02:21
Margus Meigo commented on Christine Mary's post.
Group: The Mushroom Identification Forum
in the beginning of facebook i posted one special service guy imitating terrorist picture in to facebook and they wanted to close my account because of "publishing weapons is not allowed"
...i just did only mention under the picture that guy has nice piano player fingers for mountain field terrorist..27 October 2014 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on Teresa Lebamoff Alt's photo.
thats why am not listening the news to be not distracted and ego boosted
okey, in the mind at least
okey, in the mind at least
27 October 2014 01:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
tell me more Hermes Galatis ?
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(just for my own note http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/azure/award-for-ebola-research.aspx )
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(just for my own note http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/azure/award-for-ebola-research.aspx )
http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/azure/award-for-ebola-research.aspx
26 October 2014 18:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Non-interactive zero-knowledge proofs make it possible to prove the truth of a statement without revealing any other information.
...just ... so nice sentence
...just ... so nice sentence
26 October 2014 18:33
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26 October 2014 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
MEaN TO SAy:
Some of the suspicions about hidden weaknesses in the S-boxes were allayed in 1990, with the independent discovery and open publication by Eli Biham and Adi Shamir of differential cryptanalysis, a general method for breaking block ciphers. The S-boxes of DES were much more resistant to the attack than if they had been chosen at random, strongly suggesting that IBM knew about the technique in the 1970s. This was indeed the case; in 1994, Don Coppersmith published some of the original design criteria for the S-boxes. According to Steven Levy, IBM Watson researchers discovered differential cryptanalytic attacks in 1974 and were asked by the NSA to keep the technique secret
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26 October 2014 16:41
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on, selle parandamisega tuleb tegeleda
26 October 2014 16:29
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"Shaolin Gong Fu gives you everything. The purpose of our training is to balance our Yin and Yang. How many hours is not important. It’s down to knowing what your body needs."
"When you work, work for 40 minutes then stop for 10 minutes. When you look at something all the time, it can damage your eyes and also your internal organs and peace."
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Most people think that the Shaolin Temple was burnt only once. Actually there were five burnings of three different Shaolin Temples!
The first southern Shaolin Temple was built in Quanzhou during the Ming Dynasty. When the Qing Dynasty replaced the Ming, Ming royalists relayed around the southern Shaolin Temple hoping to restore the Ming. The Qing emperor, Yong Cheng, directed the Qing army, with the help of mercenary Lama monks from Tibet, razed the southern Shaolin Temple to the ground.
But what many people do not realize is that this burning concerned not the Shaolin Temple in the north, but the Shaolin Temple in the south. There were two southern Shaolin Temples — another fact which many people may not know and which therefore may cause much confussion.
The first southern Shaolin Temple was built in Quanzhou during the Ming Dynasty. When the Qing Dynasty replaced the Ming, Ming royalists relayed around the southern Shaolin Temple hoping to restore the Ming. The Qing emperor, Yong Cheng, directed the Qing army, with the help of mercenary Lama monks from Tibet, razed the southern Shaolin Temple to the ground.
A few monks escaped. One of these was the Venerable Jiang Nan. Not much was written about him in Chinese kungfu history because he ran out of China, and later passed the Shaolin arts to Yang Fatt Khuen near the Thai-Malaysia border. Yang Fatt Khuen passed the arts to my sifu, Ho Fatt Nam.
More well-known were the Venerable Chee Seen, Pak Mei, Foong Tou Tak and Miu Hein, who also escaped from the burning temple. Chee Seen built another southern Shaolin Temple at Jiulianshan, also in Fujian Province.
A lady Shaolin master, Liu Sei Leong, fought her way into the palace and assassinated the Qing emperor Yong Cheng to avenge for the burning of the southern Shaolin Temple. After this, Liu Sei Leong became a nun, using the name Ng Mui.
However, Pak Mei and Foong Tou Tak later sided with the Qing government. Pak Mei led the Qing army to raze the southern Shaolin Temple at Jiulianshan to the ground. Chee Seen were killed by Pak Mei. A few monks and secular disciples escaped, such as the Venerable Harng Yein, the Venerable Sam Tak (who was at another temple), Hoong Hei Khoon, Lok Ah Choy and Fong Sai Yoke.
Later, Hoong Mun Thing and Wu Ah Phiew, who were respectively the son and a disciple of Hoong Hei Khoon, killed Pak Mei to avenge for the burning of the second southern Shaolin Temple.
The northern Shaolin Temple at Henan was intact during the Qing Dynasty, but it lost its importance as a centre for kungfu and Zen training. During the subsequent Republican period, a warlord used the northern Shaolin Temple as his military camp. It was attacked and burnt by a rival warlord. Since then it was deserted. After Jack Li's film, “Shaolin Temple”, made the name “Shaolin” world known, the present Chinese government restored the northern Shaolin Temple for tourism.
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As described above, there were more than five survivors from the burning of the Shaolin Temple. And there were two burnings of the Shaolin Temple by the Qing army, one at Quanzhou directed by the Qing emperor Yong Cheng, and the other at Jiulianshan led by Pak Mei.
Nevertheless, kungfu circles referred to five Shaolin grandmasters of this period. They were Ng Mui, Pak Mei, Chee Seen, Foong Tou Tak and Miu Hein.
From Ng Mui was developed Ng Mui Kungfu, and her disciple Yim Wing Choon developed Wing Choon Kungfu.
From Pak Mei were developed Ermei (Ngo Mei) Kungfu, Pak Mei Kungfu, and Dragon Style Kungfu. His disciple, Li Pa San, developed Li Ka Kungfu.
Chee Seen is regarded as the First Patriarch of Southern Shaolin Kungfu. His disciples, Hoong Hei Khoon and Lok Ah Choy, developed Hoong Ka (Hung Gar) Kungfu. Choy-Li-Fatt, Lau Ka Kungfu and Choy Ka Kungfu can be traced back to him. He was also one of the two First Patriarchs of our Shaolin Wahnam lineage, the other being Jiang Nan.
From Foong Tou Tak was developed Wudang (Mou Thong) Kungfu. (Please note that Foong Tou Tak's Wudang Kungfu was different from the Wudang Kungfu of Zhang San Feng.)
Miu Hein's specialty was Flower Style Kungfu, which was also the specialty of Ng Mui. But he did not develop any kungfu style.
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There is no need to worry about it. Just practice your One-Fnger Shooting Zen, kungfu sets or any other aspects of our arts without worrying about whether you are doing them correctly or not. You have been well trained, so it is unlikely that you would make any mistakes. Even if you make some mistakes, your chi flow at the end of each exercise will clear away the side-effects immediately. Just enjoy the exercises. This is the advice given by generations of genuine masters.
However, your problem seemed to be over-concern or over-focus on your training. When you did One-Finger Shooting Zen, for example, you over-focused on your finger tip and on your dan tian. This caused mental tension, which could be very draining. Just relax. Don't tense your mind as well as don't tense your muscles. Just enjoy your training.
You will find that the more you relax, the more powerful you will be! This fact is puzzling to most people, especially to Westerners and those trained in external arts. In typical Western exercises for strengthening, the strength comes from muscular tension, but in internal arts the internal force comes from energy flow. The more you relax, the better is the energy flow.
There is also a common mis-conception that in order to be strong, one must not let energy flow out of his body. This is a big mistake, and may cause blockage or sometimes draining. Energy is fresh and powerful when it is flowing. If it is blocked, such as by muscular tension, mental stress or strong intent to prevent it from flowing out of the body, fresh energy can become stale and oppressive (which may make the practitioner angry or aggressive).
Hence, besides clearing rubbish from the body, energy flow (including energy flowing out of the body) makes us fresh and powerful. What happens if there is, theoretically, no more rubbish to be cleared. Will the outflow of energy from his body make him weak?
Yes, if it is draining, i.e. only outflow but no inflow, like someone indulging in excessive sex or transmitting energy to another person incompetently. But the answer is no if the flow is harmonious, i.e. smooth outflow as well as smooth inflow. For example, when energy shoots out from your finger tip as you perform One-finger Shooting Zen, fresh energy will also flow into you, making your fresh and powerful.
You need not have to especially focus on the inflow of energy from the cosmos into your body, although if you can do so well, as in our training, your effect will be better. Indeed, it is the reverse. You need to focus (without mental stress) on your energy shooting out. This is not just for combat purposes (at an advanced level, this can penetrate Iron Shirt); it is also for enhancing health and vitality.
Even if you do not worry about breathing in, but just focus on breathing out, cosmic energy will flow into you as you shoot out the chi from your finger tip. This flow will, of course, be more effective if your meridians are relatively free from blockage. This also means that someone with much blockage and focusing on the inflow due to his mis-conception that it would give him more power, would harm himself. This is quite common amongst those who learn from books or from incompetent instructors, and, ironically, who want to get results faster than those who learn personally from masters.
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Yes, there really is internal force. My sifu had it, I have it, and my students have it. If you wish to develop internal force, you must learn from a master or at least a competent instructor who is willing to teach you. You cannot gain it through an e-mail.
All my students who attended any of my Intensive Chi Kung Course, Intensive Shaolin Kungfu Course or Intensive Taijiquan Courses, without an exception, experienced internal force on the very first day of their course. Of course, their internal force gained in just one day was not very powerful yet, but it was real and powerful enough for them to be sure it was internal force, and not their imagination.
Many people, including some masters, have sought internal force for years, yet to no avail. Hence, many people may not believe in internal force. This is understandable, and reasonable. But what is unreasonable is that some people, knowing my offer to teach internal force in just one day and that many of my students have publicly testified to the truth of my claim, refuse to test my claim and stubbornly insist there is no internal force.
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Nowadays t is difficult to find a teacher anywhere in the world, not just in your country, teaching Tai Chi Chuan as a martial art. Even in China, much of the Tai Chi Chuan (spelt as Taijiquan in Romanized Chinese) taught today is a dance form, and is part of the seven categories of modern wushu.
If it is taught as a martial art anywhere in the world, it is very unlikely to be taught in community centres or parks. Traditional masters who teach Tai Chi Chuan as a martial art usually regard their art as secret, and do not normally teach openly.
This does not mean that learning Tai Chi Chuan from teachers teaching it in community centres and parks is not beneficial. Indeed, for many people, practicing Tai Chi Chuan as a dance form may be more appropriate than practicing it as a martial art. Practicing Tai Chi Chuan as a martial art is demanding, and not many people have the required determination and perseverance. Practicing Tai Chi Chuan as a dance form is fun, and it good for recreation and socialization.
Different people and on different situations have different concept regarding the basics of an art. For us in Shaolin Wahnam, the basics of Tai Chi Chuan include its typical patterns and sets, fundamental force training methods and footwork, Pushing Hands and Striking Hands techniques and tactics, as well as underlying principles and philosophy. If you refer to our Tai Chi Chuan training programme , you will find these Tai Chi Chuan basics covered in Levels 1 to 5.
Many other people, however, may have a different concept, and what they often refer to as basics is an ability to perform a Tai Chi Chuan set or some Tai Chi Chuan patterns. This is probably also what you meant. And this is also a pre-requisite for attending my Intensive Tai Chi Chuan Course.
If you wish to learn a Tai Chi Chuan set or some Tai Chi Chuan patterns, you can effectively do so from Tai Chi classes conducted in community centres or parks. Different classes, of course, maintain different standards. Choose one where the Tai Chi Chuan forms are performed elegantly and with good balance. This is not just for aesthetic values. If the forms are performed badly, it may be harmful, such as injuring your knees.
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Question 3
From what I understand this system came from a monk called Wong Qui or the Hai Fung Monk from the mountain that Lam Yui Kwai learned his Dragon Set from. I understand that Siu Lam Wing Chun was connected to all of this Chi Sim the Hai Fung Monk and Lam Yui Quai the Dragon Style master are said to be the old Gee Sin Yong Chun/Hung Kuen/Huaquan style. I am trying to figure out what all this means.
Answer 3
Wong Qui and Chi Sim you mentioned should be Wong Thye and Chee Seen respectively. There were actually two southern Shaolin Temples, one at the city of Quanzhou and the other on the Nine-Lotus Mountain. Both were in Fujian Province in South China. The southern Shaolin Temple at Quanzhou was burnt first, directed by the Qing Emperor Yong Jing himself with the help of mercenary Lama kungfu experts from Tibet.
The Venerable Chee Seen escaped from the burning of the first southern temple, and stayed for some time in Kwangtung at Hoi Tong Temple (probably mispronounced in your account as Hai Fung) before moving to Nine-Lotus Mountain in Fujian where he built the second southern Shaolin Temple which was also burnt later on. At Hoi Tong Temple he taught Wong Thye, who was a secular disciple and not a monk.
Another Shaolin monk who escaped was the Venerable Jiang Nan. Both the Venerable Chee Seen and the Venerable Jiang Nan were the first patriarchs in our school, Shaolin Wahnam. Chee Seen started the lineage that leads to my sifu Lai Chin Wah, and Jiang Nan started the lineage that leads to my sifu Ho Fatt Nam.
I cannot remember exactly but I think the Dragon Style master was Lam Yew Kwong, and not Lam Yui Kwai, but Chinese characters when transliterated into English spelling often play havoc. Lam Yew Kwong was a few generations after Chee Seen, but his lineage was not from Chee Seen but from Pak Mei.
Let us now clarify the terms “Gee Sin Yong Chun/Hung Kuen/Huaquan” that you mentioned. “Gee Sin” was the Venerable Chee Seen. “Yong Chun” is the Mandarin pronunciation of “Wing Choon”, which is in Cantonese pronunciation, and refers to the Wing Choon Hall, or the Hall of Ever Spring in the southern Shaolin Temple in Quanzhou. “Hung Kuen” is Hung Gar Kungfu, or Hoong Ka Kungfu as I usually spell it. “Huaquan” is the Mandarin pronunciation of the Cantonese “Fa Kuen” or the Flower Set.
"When you work, work for 40 minutes then stop for 10 minutes. When you look at something all the time, it can damage your eyes and also your internal organs and peace."
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Most people think that the Shaolin Temple was burnt only once. Actually there were five burnings of three different Shaolin Temples!
The first southern Shaolin Temple was built in Quanzhou during the Ming Dynasty. When the Qing Dynasty replaced the Ming, Ming royalists relayed around the southern Shaolin Temple hoping to restore the Ming. The Qing emperor, Yong Cheng, directed the Qing army, with the help of mercenary Lama monks from Tibet, razed the southern Shaolin Temple to the ground.
But what many people do not realize is that this burning concerned not the Shaolin Temple in the north, but the Shaolin Temple in the south. There were two southern Shaolin Temples — another fact which many people may not know and which therefore may cause much confussion.
The first southern Shaolin Temple was built in Quanzhou during the Ming Dynasty. When the Qing Dynasty replaced the Ming, Ming royalists relayed around the southern Shaolin Temple hoping to restore the Ming. The Qing emperor, Yong Cheng, directed the Qing army, with the help of mercenary Lama monks from Tibet, razed the southern Shaolin Temple to the ground.
A few monks escaped. One of these was the Venerable Jiang Nan. Not much was written about him in Chinese kungfu history because he ran out of China, and later passed the Shaolin arts to Yang Fatt Khuen near the Thai-Malaysia border. Yang Fatt Khuen passed the arts to my sifu, Ho Fatt Nam.
More well-known were the Venerable Chee Seen, Pak Mei, Foong Tou Tak and Miu Hein, who also escaped from the burning temple. Chee Seen built another southern Shaolin Temple at Jiulianshan, also in Fujian Province.
A lady Shaolin master, Liu Sei Leong, fought her way into the palace and assassinated the Qing emperor Yong Cheng to avenge for the burning of the southern Shaolin Temple. After this, Liu Sei Leong became a nun, using the name Ng Mui.
However, Pak Mei and Foong Tou Tak later sided with the Qing government. Pak Mei led the Qing army to raze the southern Shaolin Temple at Jiulianshan to the ground. Chee Seen were killed by Pak Mei. A few monks and secular disciples escaped, such as the Venerable Harng Yein, the Venerable Sam Tak (who was at another temple), Hoong Hei Khoon, Lok Ah Choy and Fong Sai Yoke.
Later, Hoong Mun Thing and Wu Ah Phiew, who were respectively the son and a disciple of Hoong Hei Khoon, killed Pak Mei to avenge for the burning of the second southern Shaolin Temple.
The northern Shaolin Temple at Henan was intact during the Qing Dynasty, but it lost its importance as a centre for kungfu and Zen training. During the subsequent Republican period, a warlord used the northern Shaolin Temple as his military camp. It was attacked and burnt by a rival warlord. Since then it was deserted. After Jack Li's film, “Shaolin Temple”, made the name “Shaolin” world known, the present Chinese government restored the northern Shaolin Temple for tourism.
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As described above, there were more than five survivors from the burning of the Shaolin Temple. And there were two burnings of the Shaolin Temple by the Qing army, one at Quanzhou directed by the Qing emperor Yong Cheng, and the other at Jiulianshan led by Pak Mei.
Nevertheless, kungfu circles referred to five Shaolin grandmasters of this period. They were Ng Mui, Pak Mei, Chee Seen, Foong Tou Tak and Miu Hein.
From Ng Mui was developed Ng Mui Kungfu, and her disciple Yim Wing Choon developed Wing Choon Kungfu.
From Pak Mei were developed Ermei (Ngo Mei) Kungfu, Pak Mei Kungfu, and Dragon Style Kungfu. His disciple, Li Pa San, developed Li Ka Kungfu.
Chee Seen is regarded as the First Patriarch of Southern Shaolin Kungfu. His disciples, Hoong Hei Khoon and Lok Ah Choy, developed Hoong Ka (Hung Gar) Kungfu. Choy-Li-Fatt, Lau Ka Kungfu and Choy Ka Kungfu can be traced back to him. He was also one of the two First Patriarchs of our Shaolin Wahnam lineage, the other being Jiang Nan.
From Foong Tou Tak was developed Wudang (Mou Thong) Kungfu. (Please note that Foong Tou Tak's Wudang Kungfu was different from the Wudang Kungfu of Zhang San Feng.)
Miu Hein's specialty was Flower Style Kungfu, which was also the specialty of Ng Mui. But he did not develop any kungfu style.
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There is no need to worry about it. Just practice your One-Fnger Shooting Zen, kungfu sets or any other aspects of our arts without worrying about whether you are doing them correctly or not. You have been well trained, so it is unlikely that you would make any mistakes. Even if you make some mistakes, your chi flow at the end of each exercise will clear away the side-effects immediately. Just enjoy the exercises. This is the advice given by generations of genuine masters.
However, your problem seemed to be over-concern or over-focus on your training. When you did One-Finger Shooting Zen, for example, you over-focused on your finger tip and on your dan tian. This caused mental tension, which could be very draining. Just relax. Don't tense your mind as well as don't tense your muscles. Just enjoy your training.
You will find that the more you relax, the more powerful you will be! This fact is puzzling to most people, especially to Westerners and those trained in external arts. In typical Western exercises for strengthening, the strength comes from muscular tension, but in internal arts the internal force comes from energy flow. The more you relax, the better is the energy flow.
There is also a common mis-conception that in order to be strong, one must not let energy flow out of his body. This is a big mistake, and may cause blockage or sometimes draining. Energy is fresh and powerful when it is flowing. If it is blocked, such as by muscular tension, mental stress or strong intent to prevent it from flowing out of the body, fresh energy can become stale and oppressive (which may make the practitioner angry or aggressive).
Hence, besides clearing rubbish from the body, energy flow (including energy flowing out of the body) makes us fresh and powerful. What happens if there is, theoretically, no more rubbish to be cleared. Will the outflow of energy from his body make him weak?
Yes, if it is draining, i.e. only outflow but no inflow, like someone indulging in excessive sex or transmitting energy to another person incompetently. But the answer is no if the flow is harmonious, i.e. smooth outflow as well as smooth inflow. For example, when energy shoots out from your finger tip as you perform One-finger Shooting Zen, fresh energy will also flow into you, making your fresh and powerful.
You need not have to especially focus on the inflow of energy from the cosmos into your body, although if you can do so well, as in our training, your effect will be better. Indeed, it is the reverse. You need to focus (without mental stress) on your energy shooting out. This is not just for combat purposes (at an advanced level, this can penetrate Iron Shirt); it is also for enhancing health and vitality.
Even if you do not worry about breathing in, but just focus on breathing out, cosmic energy will flow into you as you shoot out the chi from your finger tip. This flow will, of course, be more effective if your meridians are relatively free from blockage. This also means that someone with much blockage and focusing on the inflow due to his mis-conception that it would give him more power, would harm himself. This is quite common amongst those who learn from books or from incompetent instructors, and, ironically, who want to get results faster than those who learn personally from masters.
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Yes, there really is internal force. My sifu had it, I have it, and my students have it. If you wish to develop internal force, you must learn from a master or at least a competent instructor who is willing to teach you. You cannot gain it through an e-mail.
All my students who attended any of my Intensive Chi Kung Course, Intensive Shaolin Kungfu Course or Intensive Taijiquan Courses, without an exception, experienced internal force on the very first day of their course. Of course, their internal force gained in just one day was not very powerful yet, but it was real and powerful enough for them to be sure it was internal force, and not their imagination.
Many people, including some masters, have sought internal force for years, yet to no avail. Hence, many people may not believe in internal force. This is understandable, and reasonable. But what is unreasonable is that some people, knowing my offer to teach internal force in just one day and that many of my students have publicly testified to the truth of my claim, refuse to test my claim and stubbornly insist there is no internal force.
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Nowadays t is difficult to find a teacher anywhere in the world, not just in your country, teaching Tai Chi Chuan as a martial art. Even in China, much of the Tai Chi Chuan (spelt as Taijiquan in Romanized Chinese) taught today is a dance form, and is part of the seven categories of modern wushu.
If it is taught as a martial art anywhere in the world, it is very unlikely to be taught in community centres or parks. Traditional masters who teach Tai Chi Chuan as a martial art usually regard their art as secret, and do not normally teach openly.
This does not mean that learning Tai Chi Chuan from teachers teaching it in community centres and parks is not beneficial. Indeed, for many people, practicing Tai Chi Chuan as a dance form may be more appropriate than practicing it as a martial art. Practicing Tai Chi Chuan as a martial art is demanding, and not many people have the required determination and perseverance. Practicing Tai Chi Chuan as a dance form is fun, and it good for recreation and socialization.
Different people and on different situations have different concept regarding the basics of an art. For us in Shaolin Wahnam, the basics of Tai Chi Chuan include its typical patterns and sets, fundamental force training methods and footwork, Pushing Hands and Striking Hands techniques and tactics, as well as underlying principles and philosophy. If you refer to our Tai Chi Chuan training programme , you will find these Tai Chi Chuan basics covered in Levels 1 to 5.
Many other people, however, may have a different concept, and what they often refer to as basics is an ability to perform a Tai Chi Chuan set or some Tai Chi Chuan patterns. This is probably also what you meant. And this is also a pre-requisite for attending my Intensive Tai Chi Chuan Course.
If you wish to learn a Tai Chi Chuan set or some Tai Chi Chuan patterns, you can effectively do so from Tai Chi classes conducted in community centres or parks. Different classes, of course, maintain different standards. Choose one where the Tai Chi Chuan forms are performed elegantly and with good balance. This is not just for aesthetic values. If the forms are performed badly, it may be harmful, such as injuring your knees.
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http://www.wongkiewkit.com/forum/
Question 3
From what I understand this system came from a monk called Wong Qui or the Hai Fung Monk from the mountain that Lam Yui Kwai learned his Dragon Set from. I understand that Siu Lam Wing Chun was connected to all of this Chi Sim the Hai Fung Monk and Lam Yui Quai the Dragon Style master are said to be the old Gee Sin Yong Chun/Hung Kuen/Huaquan style. I am trying to figure out what all this means.
Answer 3
Wong Qui and Chi Sim you mentioned should be Wong Thye and Chee Seen respectively. There were actually two southern Shaolin Temples, one at the city of Quanzhou and the other on the Nine-Lotus Mountain. Both were in Fujian Province in South China. The southern Shaolin Temple at Quanzhou was burnt first, directed by the Qing Emperor Yong Jing himself with the help of mercenary Lama kungfu experts from Tibet.
The Venerable Chee Seen escaped from the burning of the first southern temple, and stayed for some time in Kwangtung at Hoi Tong Temple (probably mispronounced in your account as Hai Fung) before moving to Nine-Lotus Mountain in Fujian where he built the second southern Shaolin Temple which was also burnt later on. At Hoi Tong Temple he taught Wong Thye, who was a secular disciple and not a monk.
Another Shaolin monk who escaped was the Venerable Jiang Nan. Both the Venerable Chee Seen and the Venerable Jiang Nan were the first patriarchs in our school, Shaolin Wahnam. Chee Seen started the lineage that leads to my sifu Lai Chin Wah, and Jiang Nan started the lineage that leads to my sifu Ho Fatt Nam.
I cannot remember exactly but I think the Dragon Style master was Lam Yew Kwong, and not Lam Yui Kwai, but Chinese characters when transliterated into English spelling often play havoc. Lam Yew Kwong was a few generations after Chee Seen, but his lineage was not from Chee Seen but from Pak Mei.
Let us now clarify the terms “Gee Sin Yong Chun/Hung Kuen/Huaquan” that you mentioned. “Gee Sin” was the Venerable Chee Seen. “Yong Chun” is the Mandarin pronunciation of “Wing Choon”, which is in Cantonese pronunciation, and refers to the Wing Choon Hall, or the Hall of Ever Spring in the southern Shaolin Temple in Quanzhou. “Hung Kuen” is Hung Gar Kungfu, or Hoong Ka Kungfu as I usually spell it. “Huaquan” is the Mandarin pronunciation of the Cantonese “Fa Kuen” or the Flower Set.
26 October 2014 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
of-course they no match for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkgnQD1XEds
"But i am still young and ignorant" Good start : ))
"I did not need your help, they would have not beat me"
"why you say that"
"if they kill me they have to pay for my funeral, ...."
"Why you have to keep hitting me there for"
"becouse i like hitting you there"
"how all of you man can be so wicked, my father trusted you"
"how dare you to take advantake of defenceles young women" (women is on kung fu with sword fighting with 10 guys)
"my friend is badly hurt can you get me some medicine"
"i am not a hurt so why i need to get medicine"
(Punch in to face) "why did you hit me"
"you are hurting now so can you bring some medicine now"
"little monk, you got a big mouth"
"you are filthy traitor, i do not wanna be near you, if you would not come after me i would come look for you"
"bastard, to bad, your curradge will be the death of you"
"so you will take him as a student?"(optimisticly)
"why i need a lousy student, he will upset me each time i see him"
"budas name be praised"
"brother, this man, Chi-Gäng, has caused a much of trouble in the past, we sent monks after him, but i am afraid, we went against, teachings of budha, i think we can forget him, anyway he will die soon"
"Grand Master, you are wrong" (what you mean, GRANDmaster is wrong)
"you have teach us that in order to help people we have to practice virtue, but you let Chi-Gäng commit crimes, and he kills inocent peole, He is a devil. but you wont interfare, letting evil thrive, isint that against laws of buddha"
"can i take him on as student then"
"buddha does allow us, to study Kung Fu to beat evil, but gentelman, please remeber, you have to practice mercy"
"do you understand what i say"
"i understand and i am willing to convert to Budishm"
"thats good"
"let the seremony begin, first we cut of all you hair, to sheder link with the past, you are now monk, show mercy to all the peoples of the world" (what you mean with past....)
"so you mastered the ... style"
"i have had ... manual for 12 years, if i had not mastered it by now i will regard my self as an idiot"
"thats good you mastered breading, you will find your strenght much increace"
When facing your enemy, always aim for his weakest point. Use the Bhudda finger, aimed correctly, and you will find you will win, whatever your enemy may try to do.
"you have to remeber, princible of mercy,
Kung Fu is for killing, there is a contadiction, to resolve here, if mercy is in your heart, and you truly have feith, you will find your Kung Fu will improve rapitly"
"have you forget Her? ... She was so beatiful girl.. and now she wants to be a nun.. let the Butha name be praised.." (Inshalah..in shad voice..)
"why we budist have to fight all the time.."
"Budhas name be praised, Amen"
And the last sentence of the movie... is really weird one .. hear that one yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkgnQD1XEds
"But i am still young and ignorant" Good start : ))
"I did not need your help, they would have not beat me"
"why you say that"
"if they kill me they have to pay for my funeral, ...."
"Why you have to keep hitting me there for"
"becouse i like hitting you there"
"how all of you man can be so wicked, my father trusted you"
"how dare you to take advantake of defenceles young women" (women is on kung fu with sword fighting with 10 guys)
"my friend is badly hurt can you get me some medicine"
"i am not a hurt so why i need to get medicine"
(Punch in to face) "why did you hit me"
"you are hurting now so can you bring some medicine now"
"little monk, you got a big mouth"
"you are filthy traitor, i do not wanna be near you, if you would not come after me i would come look for you"
"bastard, to bad, your curradge will be the death of you"
"so you will take him as a student?"(optimisticly)
"why i need a lousy student, he will upset me each time i see him"
"budas name be praised"
"brother, this man, Chi-Gäng, has caused a much of trouble in the past, we sent monks after him, but i am afraid, we went against, teachings of budha, i think we can forget him, anyway he will die soon"
"Grand Master, you are wrong" (what you mean, GRANDmaster is wrong)
"you have teach us that in order to help people we have to practice virtue, but you let Chi-Gäng commit crimes, and he kills inocent peole, He is a devil. but you wont interfare, letting evil thrive, isint that against laws of buddha"
"can i take him on as student then"
"buddha does allow us, to study Kung Fu to beat evil, but gentelman, please remeber, you have to practice mercy"
"do you understand what i say"
"i understand and i am willing to convert to Budishm"
"thats good"
"let the seremony begin, first we cut of all you hair, to sheder link with the past, you are now monk, show mercy to all the peoples of the world" (what you mean with past....)
"so you mastered the ... style"
"i have had ... manual for 12 years, if i had not mastered it by now i will regard my self as an idiot"
"thats good you mastered breading, you will find your strenght much increace"
When facing your enemy, always aim for his weakest point. Use the Bhudda finger, aimed correctly, and you will find you will win, whatever your enemy may try to do.
"you have to remeber, princible of mercy,
Kung Fu is for killing, there is a contadiction, to resolve here, if mercy is in your heart, and you truly have feith, you will find your Kung Fu will improve rapitly"
"have you forget Her? ... She was so beatiful girl.. and now she wants to be a nun.. let the Butha name be praised.." (Inshalah..in shad voice..)
"why we budist have to fight all the time.."
"Budhas name be praised, Amen"
And the last sentence of the movie... is really weird one .. hear that one yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkgnQD1XEds
26 October 2014 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
lol, going on about rijndael some how ended up on fact that Steven Levy rediscovered Albert Einstein's brain, had some futuristic thoughts about that that they just did not keep it in a jar :D25 October 2014 05:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
back to 96 once more (well, its 70s really but)... a word ˇˇproblemˇˇ catch the eye :d
"Another problem is the rapid and continual increase in computing power available. The impending obsolescence of DES (Data Encryption Standard--a secret key algorithm) is in part due to the subsequent developments in computing. At one time, a noted cryptologist calculated that a message encoded with DES could be decrypted without knowing the secret key in a month using $20 million in computer hardware. Recently, a group of noted cryptographers estimated that a $10 million investment in hardware would recover a DES key in 6 minutes...."
http://www.google.nl/patents/US5761306http://www.google.nl/patents/US5761306
25 October 2014 05:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: 2600 | The Hacker Quarterly
Even retrom jet: http://www.tau.ac.il/~tromer/cryptodev/http://www.tau.ac.il/~tromer/cryptodev/
25 October 2014 05:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
My 10 yr old niece was sleeping over at my parents, one night. She had all the lights on in the spare bedroom. I asked her if she was afraid of the dark, and she said no. "I am afraid of what is in the dark." ( http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1d2v7i/parents_of_reddit_what_is_the_creepiest_thing/?limit=500 )
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1d2v7i/parents_of_reddit_what_is_the_creepiest_thing/?limit=500
25 October 2014 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Important song to hear that puts all that in to one song that is written in many ways
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe4EK4HSPkI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe4EK4HSPkI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe4EK4HSPkI
25 October 2014 01:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Also from DHS: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FBI-Warns-Technology-Companies-CHINAAffiliated-1227907.S.5930830997577809920
My thought was: At least
Other news: last 10 years China investments in to western world companies has rise 40 TIMES...
My thought: its about time
What about Us?
It is, All, Us ... silly rabbit u
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Every one here talks "Chinese taking over" "these Chinese..." "oh.. its made by Chinese..." "do ya want Chinese food (and be on)" ...
and when i say "Chinese species" as of "Estonian race" .. then most people almost do not know what to say out of amazement of "politically in correct" ... screw ya u hypercritical ... at least i have all positive picture of different races and species of humans (and among these species the variations of human types and...) ...
You call me a racist?
Thank you ignorant pricks and over sentsitivized ... how did the stalin called again these beneficial pseudo university intellectuals that are good for political cause.. .. Asian culture, language, way of thinking and customs are more completely different to some of us then some of us to chimpanzees most likely.
( love that: http://www.mandarintools.com/faq.html#namer "English and Chinese are two completely unrelated languages. They don't share a common linguistic or cultural history. ...")
Where that comment come anyway ? No idea, probably will need to work on it
some old ideas from situations where people wanned to eliminate everyone who agreeing with forceful preserving of diversity among human species and then blamed me for being Nazi
Not that there is anything wrong of being Nazi compared to these lunatics who wanna all paint us in to one color by allowing state run the global super slave state by no guiding religions governance
(is that over a border enough. ...remember one time getting headbumped in England by Scottish anarchist when i protected queen by explaining why She should have more rights then us who is basking on streets to get next hit money for a day and cares f.All for their own country and women, specially for one of the last womens who still has some .. some power and rights... but who is unable to practice any of it in full scale when people who is imprisoned (over 1000 yrs..) .. does not care to care for Her )
Eastern European gets attacked by standing for a Queens rights in London ... what a Eastern standard head line that would have been.
specially as the sing for "no more violence" had my blood all over that was used for protesting by one of the most royal people i meet in uk
But this guy was actually good one, he even told me sorry before he attack, and was all pretty okey later .. teach me a few things .
My thought was: At least
Other news: last 10 years China investments in to western world companies has rise 40 TIMES...
My thought: its about time
What about Us?
It is, All, Us ... silly rabbit u
---
Every one here talks "Chinese taking over" "these Chinese..." "oh.. its made by Chinese..." "do ya want Chinese food (and be on)" ...
and when i say "Chinese species" as of "Estonian race" .. then most people almost do not know what to say out of amazement of "politically in correct" ... screw ya u hypercritical ... at least i have all positive picture of different races and species of humans (and among these species the variations of human types and...) ...
You call me a racist?
Thank you ignorant pricks and over sentsitivized ... how did the stalin called again these beneficial pseudo university intellectuals that are good for political cause.. .. Asian culture, language, way of thinking and customs are more completely different to some of us then some of us to chimpanzees most likely.
( love that: http://www.mandarintools.com/faq.html#namer "English and Chinese are two completely unrelated languages. They don't share a common linguistic or cultural history. ...")
Where that comment come anyway ? No idea, probably will need to work on it
some old ideas from situations where people wanned to eliminate everyone who agreeing with forceful preserving of diversity among human species and then blamed me for being Nazi
Not that there is anything wrong of being Nazi compared to these lunatics who wanna all paint us in to one color by allowing state run the global super slave state by no guiding religions governance
(is that over a border enough. ...remember one time getting headbumped in England by Scottish anarchist when i protected queen by explaining why She should have more rights then us who is basking on streets to get next hit money for a day and cares f.All for their own country and women, specially for one of the last womens who still has some .. some power and rights... but who is unable to practice any of it in full scale when people who is imprisoned (over 1000 yrs..) .. does not care to care for Her )
Eastern European gets attacked by standing for a Queens rights in London ... what a Eastern standard head line that would have been.
specially as the sing for "no more violence" had my blood all over that was used for protesting by one of the most royal people i meet in uk
But this guy was actually good one, he even told me sorry before he attack, and was all pretty okey later .. teach me a few things .
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FBI-Warns-Technology-Companies-CHINAAffiliated-1227907.S.5930830997577809920
24 October 2014 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on Rene Rumberg's post.
Group: KalambuuR
mul umbes samaoodi, et
"Ega sul kanepiga probleeme ei ole?"
"On küll, alati on puudu"24 October 2014 02:34
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
24 October 2014 02:28
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
Jup, this is the main point of religion - sleep only with the ones who is needed.
...but then the ones who should not have breaded at all (but was allowed because of.. we nice) started to dickDate who to sleep with..,
selective breading will come anyway once the religion becomes realty
...science is from all same place anyway, all the tools will be used for what is needed.. there is really only one direction... just some road takes time and seems kind of long specially if someone comes to remind there is no time
...but then the ones who should not have breaded at all (but was allowed because of.. we nice) started to dickDate who to sleep with..,
selective breading will come anyway once the religion becomes realty
...science is from all same place anyway, all the tools will be used for what is needed.. there is really only one direction... just some road takes time and seems kind of long specially if someone comes to remind there is no time
23 October 2014 22:41
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
really hard not to flood world like that that cares so little about eliminating ALL this ... realizations about science and finances is BY FAR enough doing all that is needed
retarded excuses like "we cant" .. "its to much" .. "deal your own life" .. this IS my life what is happening around us, are we blind to not see that, like blind in retarded way.
No one wanna believe in to spirits and religion proper way... so ELIMINATE it then earthy ... arrgh this topics.. this soul market.. where we get ourself involved with.. no reason to wish to be any other place.. lucky you can be here among THAT so you KNOW... that it is.. and you got a chance to do something about it.. more then in Venus, in-nit ?
people complain to be in THIS world.. while not even having problems in mind aware on that level that other around you suffer ... and this is not even the worst fact.. worst jet is the "healthy" pack of people who are willing to stop you for stopping int
literally or by pretending they ignore,.
this is the scary... as they keep this all alive... while licking ice cream
.. i even stop eating cream, .. it was tasty but hey, at least some cows might get rest when 10 000 people do the same
for starters
retarded excuses like "we cant" .. "its to much" .. "deal your own life" .. this IS my life what is happening around us, are we blind to not see that, like blind in retarded way.
No one wanna believe in to spirits and religion proper way... so ELIMINATE it then earthy ... arrgh this topics.. this soul market.. where we get ourself involved with.. no reason to wish to be any other place.. lucky you can be here among THAT so you KNOW... that it is.. and you got a chance to do something about it.. more then in Venus, in-nit ?
people complain to be in THIS world.. while not even having problems in mind aware on that level that other around you suffer ... and this is not even the worst fact.. worst jet is the "healthy" pack of people who are willing to stop you for stopping int
literally or by pretending they ignore,.
this is the scary... as they keep this all alive... while licking ice cream
.. i even stop eating cream, .. it was tasty but hey, at least some cows might get rest when 10 000 people do the same
for starters
23 October 2014 22:26
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
"Hello perry, you think you're so fucking scary, well, I've got news for you
hello perry, hello perry, hello ??
this is the news for you, perry
and it's not so fucking scary
here it is:
it's talking about you
it's talking about growing up in england
it's talking about being the slave boy
it's talking about giving head when you're 6 years old
it's talking about doing these things
the coming apart of you
the coming apart of your faith
and meeting the popping cherry of the brain
and the part of passing it around to the other boys
and then once you know it…
hello perry
i think it's all too fucking scary
well, I've got news for you, perry
do you...hey!
i really care, perry
about your money
your mother died of cancer
Cancer, cancer, cancer, cancer, cancer, cancer, cancer, cancer, cancer
See, perry
i can be there ??
it's about coming of age
it's about learning how to do it
it's about learning how to experience things the way they ought to be experienced
it's about growing up
it's about licking the shit off the floor
it's about doing the things that you ought to do
it's about being a butthole surfer
it's about doing promotional work
it's about
it's about PR
it's about all these things
it's about loving yourself
it's about loving your mom
it's about loving your dad
it's about doing the things
it's about going to the go-kart track
it's about loving everything
your pop, your kitty
all the things
the catfood, the little bits of crayons
the melted pieces
the loving friends
all the things you wish you had
real life
hello perry, hello perry, hello ??
this is the news for you, perry
and it's not so fucking scary
here it is:
it's talking about you
it's talking about growing up in england
it's talking about being the slave boy
it's talking about giving head when you're 6 years old
it's talking about doing these things
the coming apart of you
the coming apart of your faith
and meeting the popping cherry of the brain
and the part of passing it around to the other boys
and then once you know it…
hello perry
i think it's all too fucking scary
well, I've got news for you, perry
do you...hey!
i really care, perry
about your money
your mother died of cancer
Cancer, cancer, cancer, cancer, cancer, cancer, cancer, cancer, cancer
See, perry
i can be there ??
it's about coming of age
it's about learning how to do it
it's about learning how to experience things the way they ought to be experienced
it's about growing up
it's about licking the shit off the floor
it's about doing the things that you ought to do
it's about being a butthole surfer
it's about doing promotional work
it's about
it's about PR
it's about all these things
it's about loving yourself
it's about loving your mom
it's about loving your dad
it's about doing the things
it's about going to the go-kart track
it's about loving everything
your pop, your kitty
all the things
the catfood, the little bits of crayons
the melted pieces
the loving friends
all the things you wish you had
real life
23 October 2014 22:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Money cannot buy
All the love that's here tonight
All the love that's here tonight
Ooh ooh
There's just you and I
So lift your hands toward the sky
Lift your hands toward the sky
Ooh ooh
It seems like yesterday that I was nothin'
Then all of a sudden I'm a volcanic eruption
Then all of a sudden it's like spontaneous combustion
And I'm all up in your face yellin', "Bitch, you can't tell me nothin'"
'Cause I came from the bottom, now everybody's watchin'
I said it was my time, now I'm who everybody's glockin'
And I'm just out here sprintin', I'm runnin' right through my vision
I'm trying to outrun my past, but still trying to defeat my limits
'Cause you only get one moment in this life to be great
And you give it your all despite what it takes
And you never let 'em kill you, you take everything they give you
And throw it right fuckin' at 'em and tell 'em it doesn't build you
And no it don't ever break you, and no it can't overtake you
Life's like a bed of roses, you take the thorns and you make do
Sometimes you have to hurt for the 'cause to be reached
But one day you'll be stronger then all that you beat
And you can say
Money cannot buy
All the love that's here tonight
All the love that's here tonight
Ooh ooh
There's just you and I
So lift your hands toward the sky
Lift your hands toward the sky
Ooh ooh
I woke up one Sunday morning, stopped believing in Jesus
Stopped believing in churches, I stopped believing in preachers
I realized I was a teacher, not just one of the heathens
I'm born to destroy the fallacies, stop creating believers
Start creating the leaders, tell 'em who they should follow
Nobody but themselves, especially if they hollow
Especially when they empty and death reserves for fulfillment
You the only person alive who holds the key to your healin'
So you take it and you run with it
And keep going even when your suns hidden
Because the time we spend in darkness when the rain comes
Is where we often find th
Read more: Angel Haze - Battle Cry Lyrics | MetroLyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obx9n1e7rMc&list=UUjHM2lYtKm41QrIorWewGuw
All the love that's here tonight
All the love that's here tonight
Ooh ooh
There's just you and I
So lift your hands toward the sky
Lift your hands toward the sky
Ooh ooh
It seems like yesterday that I was nothin'
Then all of a sudden I'm a volcanic eruption
Then all of a sudden it's like spontaneous combustion
And I'm all up in your face yellin', "Bitch, you can't tell me nothin'"
'Cause I came from the bottom, now everybody's watchin'
I said it was my time, now I'm who everybody's glockin'
And I'm just out here sprintin', I'm runnin' right through my vision
I'm trying to outrun my past, but still trying to defeat my limits
'Cause you only get one moment in this life to be great
And you give it your all despite what it takes
And you never let 'em kill you, you take everything they give you
And throw it right fuckin' at 'em and tell 'em it doesn't build you
And no it don't ever break you, and no it can't overtake you
Life's like a bed of roses, you take the thorns and you make do
Sometimes you have to hurt for the 'cause to be reached
But one day you'll be stronger then all that you beat
And you can say
Money cannot buy
All the love that's here tonight
All the love that's here tonight
Ooh ooh
There's just you and I
So lift your hands toward the sky
Lift your hands toward the sky
Ooh ooh
I woke up one Sunday morning, stopped believing in Jesus
Stopped believing in churches, I stopped believing in preachers
I realized I was a teacher, not just one of the heathens
I'm born to destroy the fallacies, stop creating believers
Start creating the leaders, tell 'em who they should follow
Nobody but themselves, especially if they hollow
Especially when they empty and death reserves for fulfillment
You the only person alive who holds the key to your healin'
So you take it and you run with it
And keep going even when your suns hidden
Because the time we spend in darkness when the rain comes
Is where we often find th
Read more: Angel Haze - Battle Cry Lyrics | MetroLyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obx9n1e7rMc&list=UUjHM2lYtKm41QrIorWewGuw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obx9n1e7rMc&list=UUjHM2lYtKm41QrIorWewGuw
23 October 2014 22:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The numbers are little important but just the fact that there is numbers like that and what are issues we talk about TV?
... yeah. i was able to fly as well when was 7
... yeah. i was able to fly as well when was 7
23 October 2014 22:03
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
yeah specially compared to the issues most male rappers complain about..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_of_children#Prevalence (United States.... 100,000 - 300,00 ... how is that even possible, IN a STATES)
http://www.hamptoninstitution.org/dickmatized.html "Globally, children - particularly young girls and teenagers - are victims of dicks and the men whom they are attached to. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_of_children#Prevalence (United States.... 100,000 - 300,00 ... how is that even possible, IN a STATES)
http://www.hamptoninstitution.org/dickmatized.html "Globally, children - particularly young girls and teenagers - are victims of dicks and the men whom they are attached to. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_of_children#Prevalence
23 October 2014 21:53
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
Holiy..
23 October 2014 21:37
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
:D:D:D Okey that one was the one
23 October 2014 21:16
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
This is good one
23 October 2014 21:15
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's photo.
yeah this t shirt is just to stary
23 October 2014 21:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's photo.
This women must be a soviet ... even tho the star is upside down
23 October 2014 21:06
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
Sorry :D
23 October 2014 19:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Vau, see esimene kristlaste teema mida jagatud ja laigitud, homod vist on ikka kristluse edasi viiv jõud .. siis kohe inimesed rohkem asjast huvitatud.
nu jah, eks miks muidu mõlema sümbolik on vikerkaar :p
Head lugemist ka
http://www.vikerkaar.ee/index1.php?page=Arhiiv&a_act=content&a_number=117
nu jah, eks miks muidu mõlema sümbolik on vikerkaar :p
Head lugemist ka
http://www.vikerkaar.ee/index1.php?page=Arhiiv&a_act=content&a_number=117
http://www.vikerkaar.ee/index1.php?page=Arhiiv&a_act=content&a_number=117
23 October 2014 19:06
Margus Meigo commented on Allan Berger's link.
In truth anyone practicing something more then missionary demanding ways does need spiritual and psychiatric healing,
females just manifest their body in to this world according to our desires.
its called love (the sacrifice they make.. so we can evolve.. whatever it takes.. if we would only know..)
females just manifest their body in to this world according to our desires.
its called love (the sacrifice they make.. so we can evolve.. whatever it takes.. if we would only know..)
23 October 2014 18:22
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
Always pleased to see you still in facebook, : )
23 October 2014 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
for sure, and some poobs
23 October 2014 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
straight way to heaven
considering that rainbow was agreement between g to not a f around, i think its kind of taking a p, for g
not really related but just realized, it really is a piss take.. or to entertain my self with extra knowledge should look up from bibleanswers.org .. argh they did not have any..
but i did got trace down that ... oo .. the rainbow is robbed, by millitants
http://www.amazingfacts.org/news-and-features/from-pastor-doug/id/710/the-great-rainbow-robbery.aspx
"A militant wing of the gay community has just unleashed a new attack on Holy Scripture—the so-called Queen James Version of the Bible..."
but there is walkers who get it back!
http://www.christianpost.com/news/wash-pastor-wants-christians-to-take-back-the-rainbow-and-restore-biblical-symbol-73560/
""The guy who puts a rainbow sticker on the back of his Prius is sending a slightly different message: he's got a co-pilot, and it isn't God. If you really want the conversation to get going, try putting one of those stickers on your minivan right next to the Jesus fish logo. Talk about mixed messages. Is that guy straight? Is he gay? Do you think he's a liberal Presbyterian? .. "
okey i think we got something here, not sure jet what thought
considering that rainbow was agreement between g to not a f around, i think its kind of taking a p, for g
not really related but just realized, it really is a piss take.. or to entertain my self with extra knowledge should look up from bibleanswers.org .. argh they did not have any..
but i did got trace down that ... oo .. the rainbow is robbed, by millitants
http://www.amazingfacts.org/news-and-features/from-pastor-doug/id/710/the-great-rainbow-robbery.aspx
"A militant wing of the gay community has just unleashed a new attack on Holy Scripture—the so-called Queen James Version of the Bible..."
but there is walkers who get it back!
http://www.christianpost.com/news/wash-pastor-wants-christians-to-take-back-the-rainbow-and-restore-biblical-symbol-73560/
""The guy who puts a rainbow sticker on the back of his Prius is sending a slightly different message: he's got a co-pilot, and it isn't God. If you really want the conversation to get going, try putting one of those stickers on your minivan right next to the Jesus fish logo. Talk about mixed messages. Is that guy straight? Is he gay? Do you think he's a liberal Presbyterian? .. "
okey i think we got something here, not sure jet what thought
http://bibleanswers.org/
23 October 2014 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
okey this is messed up i have to think out how to get off that video now, okey not soon, but eventually
okey, i found another xanax video.. perhaps that helps,
i guess why they call it xanax now
okey, i found another xanax video.. perhaps that helps,
i guess why they call it xanax now
23 October 2014 02:50
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
sounds like my spelling technique with letters
Kirjatehnika
Kirjatehnika
23 October 2014 02:50
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
this is like first video, music, singing (All in one) over long time , ever time, i just like by not even thinking at all that i should get it - who is where and why
23 October 2014 02:43
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
yeahm, that made a chnage
23 October 2014 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
i like it so much i have to like my own comment once more
23 October 2014 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
this is great one!
23 October 2014 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
thats something new, have not thought of that one
23 October 2014 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
what you mean i cant photosyntese
23 October 2014 02:34
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
i think i just might need after this
23 October 2014 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
They also accepted the law in Estonia now.23 October 2014 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"Kuna mina sain ainukesena aru keelest selle videos.."
"Konna keelest said aru? "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNwI55z9IiE
"Konna keelest said aru? "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNwI55z9IiE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNwI55z9IiE
23 October 2014 00:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ta on pidevalt äge olnud, lihtsalt näidati muud. Need pildid enne seda ..., praegust olukorda on näha postimehe viimasest pildist
22 October 2014 19:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kommunismi usuvastastest tagajärgedest:
"...Nähtavasti ei antud sellele nähtusele asjata telegonia nimeks Odysseuse poja järgi , kes oma isa huku põhjustas .Nimelt on asi selles , et telegonia , kui bioväljaline nähtus on ohtlik MITTE AINULT järeltulijatele (müüdi järgi ei tarvitse järeltulijad tunda oma vanemaid ) , vaid ka vanematele endile .
Biovälja olemus telegonia järgi avaneb järglastes psühhika formeerumisel väärastunud kombel ,
seetõttu võivad emad ja isad end oma järglastes mitte ära tunda ja vastupidi , lapsed võivad tunda end
oma vanemate suhtes võõrastena . Teisest küljest , telegonia on vanemlike omaduste väljendumine
järglastes , mistõttu ta võib väljenduda väga paljudes variantides (nagu ka müüdi variant) .Päranduda
võivad mitte ainult esimese seksuaalpartneri välised tunnused , vaid ka tema haigused ( psühhilised
haigused , verehaigused jne.) . On teoreetiliselt võimalik ja katseliselt tõestatud , et mitte kogu
geneetilist informatsiooni ei anta edasi spermatosoidide kromosoomidega , suur osa geneetilisest
infost edastatakse BIOVÄLJA KAUDU ! Biovälja kaudu , mis toimib KAHESUUNALISELT ja
mõjutab MÕLEMAT partnerit . Sellest ei päästa preservatiivid , ei abordid , ega muud
rasestumisvastased vahendid kokku . Kui kaasaegne meditsiin oskab enam-vähem korrektselt
eemaldada loote , siis ei oska ta kuidagi aidata „lõbusat elu „ elanud ema bioväljade puhastamisel .
Kuivõrd iga seksuaalpartner , olles telegonia järgi üks paljudest isadest , omab omanäolist organismi
ehitust , mis erines teistest isadest , siis järglase organism võib väljenduda KÕIGIS nendes erinevates
informatsioonimoodulite sobimatuses üksteisega . ST . Üleüldises organite paiknevuses võib olla
assümeetria (laiemalt levinud selgroo kõverustes) .
Nii , kui see oli kindlaks tehtud , nii ka olid edasised uuringud ja publikatsioonid salastatud .
Mõtlemiseks küsimus --MILLEKS ??? "
http://web.zone.ee/mulk/
otsi üles fail:
web.zone.ee/mulk/delegonia.pdf
"...Nähtavasti ei antud sellele nähtusele asjata telegonia nimeks Odysseuse poja järgi , kes oma isa huku põhjustas .Nimelt on asi selles , et telegonia , kui bioväljaline nähtus on ohtlik MITTE AINULT järeltulijatele (müüdi järgi ei tarvitse järeltulijad tunda oma vanemaid ) , vaid ka vanematele endile .
Biovälja olemus telegonia järgi avaneb järglastes psühhika formeerumisel väärastunud kombel ,
seetõttu võivad emad ja isad end oma järglastes mitte ära tunda ja vastupidi , lapsed võivad tunda end
oma vanemate suhtes võõrastena . Teisest küljest , telegonia on vanemlike omaduste väljendumine
järglastes , mistõttu ta võib väljenduda väga paljudes variantides (nagu ka müüdi variant) .Päranduda
võivad mitte ainult esimese seksuaalpartneri välised tunnused , vaid ka tema haigused ( psühhilised
haigused , verehaigused jne.) . On teoreetiliselt võimalik ja katseliselt tõestatud , et mitte kogu
geneetilist informatsiooni ei anta edasi spermatosoidide kromosoomidega , suur osa geneetilisest
infost edastatakse BIOVÄLJA KAUDU ! Biovälja kaudu , mis toimib KAHESUUNALISELT ja
mõjutab MÕLEMAT partnerit . Sellest ei päästa preservatiivid , ei abordid , ega muud
rasestumisvastased vahendid kokku . Kui kaasaegne meditsiin oskab enam-vähem korrektselt
eemaldada loote , siis ei oska ta kuidagi aidata „lõbusat elu „ elanud ema bioväljade puhastamisel .
Kuivõrd iga seksuaalpartner , olles telegonia järgi üks paljudest isadest , omab omanäolist organismi
ehitust , mis erines teistest isadest , siis järglase organism võib väljenduda KÕIGIS nendes erinevates
informatsioonimoodulite sobimatuses üksteisega . ST . Üleüldises organite paiknevuses võib olla
assümeetria (laiemalt levinud selgroo kõverustes) .
Nii , kui see oli kindlaks tehtud , nii ka olid edasised uuringud ja publikatsioonid salastatud .
Mõtlemiseks küsimus --MILLEKS ??? "
http://web.zone.ee/mulk/
otsi üles fail:
web.zone.ee/mulk/delegonia.pdf
http://web.zone.ee/mulk/
22 October 2014 18:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Komentaarid:
Tegelikkus on hulga keerulisem. Kuigi kirjutis on populaarteaduslikus tähenduses oma töö teinud ja annab nö "lihtsa" selgituse, siiski on ilmselt õige neil, kes tuginedes kogemustele koerte, hobuste ja teiste imetajatega on asunud seisukohale, milline väljendub järgnevas lauses:
"Naise viljastanud esimene mees "saab lapsi" samalt naiselt ka siis, kui tegelikkuses on naine juba teise, kolmandas või neljandas kooselus."
Naise organism "mäletab" esimest "sobivust" ja "konstrueerib" järgnevad "tulemused" selle andmebaasi alusel.
Teisisõnu - järgmised lapsed, hoolimata nende sigitajast" kannavad suures osas esimese "tegija" (Alfa-Isase) tugevat jälge.
See on ka üks põhjusi, miks peab suhtuma "lõdvasse püksikummi" skepsisega ning, miks on abielu kristlik mudel "süütusest, kuni surm meid lahutab" ideaal, mille poole peab vähemalt püüdlema nii teos kui vaimus.
te irvitate,tean vähemalt kahte naist,kelle laps oli täiesti erinev oma vanematest ja ka õdedest-vendadest-ühe puhul töötas ema aastaid giidina Columbias ja sealt tagasi tulles sündis kahe aasta pärast tõmmu tüdruk(naine tunnistas hiljem mehele,et tal oli seal lühiajaline suhe) ja teise puhul käis nain puhkusereisil Saksamaal,ka temal sündis vist kolme aasta pärast poeg,kes oli hele......vanemad mõlemad olid tumedad,kui mees teatas naisele,et võtab lahutuse,siis naine tunnistas,et reisil olles oli tal üheöö suhe albiino sakslasega.....mõlema lapse puhul tehti ka DNA test-lapsed olid 99,8% vanemate omad,vot nii....naerge edasi
Nimelt pole mitte ühegi normaalse mehe esimeseks eelistuseks oma tulevastele lastele ema leidmisel ja ühise kodu loomisel naine, kes on olnud mingitele jorssidele tühjendusobjektiks, s.t korduvpruugitud teiste meeste poolt. Naistel ei tasu ka valetamisele-varjamisele loota, sest seda nad ei oska. Naistel õnnestub valetamine heal juhul teistele naistele, lastele või ka lamba-tüüpi meestele, kuid viimaste vastu pole neil muud huvi. Kui just teiste jorsside laste üleskasvatamiseks rahakotiteenuse osutamiseks.
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Moraal naistele: vähem madalat sugukiima (~ sugutungi) ehk mõttetuid suhteid, õnnelikum tulevik.
Moraal meestele: kui üritad naist enda käe järgi vormida nagu kaupa, millel peavad olema teatud omadused, siis õnnelikku suhet sa ei saa kunagi tundma. Raske leppida, aga naine on eraldiseisev isiksus, kelle elu mõte pole sind ümmardada ja sulle eldada :)
Hirmus küll, aga mul on olnud mitmeid "mõttetuid suhteid", hetkel 4-aastases suhtes ja väga õnnelik. Muide, mu mees teab kõikidest eelnevatest suhetest ja ei näe tema selles mingit probleemi. Meil on vastastikune austus, sinu kirjeldusest küll välja ei tule, et sa naist austaks- naine on sulle vaid vahend laste tootmiseks. Kurb, aga mis minu asi sulle moraali lugeda, kindlasti oled sa nii elades õnnelik, hea seks tühjendusvaba naisega garanteeritud :)
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Kustkohast sellised rumalused sünnivad?
Tegelikkus on hulga keerulisem. Kuigi kirjutis on populaarteaduslikus tähenduses oma töö teinud ja annab nö "lihtsa" selgituse, siiski on ilmselt õige neil, kes tuginedes kogemustele koerte, hobuste ja teiste imetajatega on asunud seisukohale, milline väljendub järgnevas lauses:
"Naise viljastanud esimene mees "saab lapsi" samalt naiselt ka siis, kui tegelikkuses on naine juba teise, kolmandas või neljandas kooselus."
Naise organism "mäletab" esimest "sobivust" ja "konstrueerib" järgnevad "tulemused" selle andmebaasi alusel.
Teisisõnu - järgmised lapsed, hoolimata nende sigitajast" kannavad suures osas esimese "tegija" (Alfa-Isase) tugevat jälge.
See on ka üks põhjusi, miks peab suhtuma "lõdvasse püksikummi" skepsisega ning, miks on abielu kristlik mudel "süütusest, kuni surm meid lahutab" ideaal, mille poole peab vähemalt püüdlema nii teos kui vaimus.
te irvitate,tean vähemalt kahte naist,kelle laps oli täiesti erinev oma vanematest ja ka õdedest-vendadest-ühe puhul töötas ema aastaid giidina Columbias ja sealt tagasi tulles sündis kahe aasta pärast tõmmu tüdruk(naine tunnistas hiljem mehele,et tal oli seal lühiajaline suhe) ja teise puhul käis nain puhkusereisil Saksamaal,ka temal sündis vist kolme aasta pärast poeg,kes oli hele......vanemad mõlemad olid tumedad,kui mees teatas naisele,et võtab lahutuse,siis naine tunnistas,et reisil olles oli tal üheöö suhe albiino sakslasega.....mõlema lapse puhul tehti ka DNA test-lapsed olid 99,8% vanemate omad,vot nii....naerge edasi
Nimelt pole mitte ühegi normaalse mehe esimeseks eelistuseks oma tulevastele lastele ema leidmisel ja ühise kodu loomisel naine, kes on olnud mingitele jorssidele tühjendusobjektiks, s.t korduvpruugitud teiste meeste poolt. Naistel ei tasu ka valetamisele-varjamisele loota, sest seda nad ei oska. Naistel õnnestub valetamine heal juhul teistele naistele, lastele või ka lamba-tüüpi meestele, kuid viimaste vastu pole neil muud huvi. Kui just teiste jorsside laste üleskasvatamiseks rahakotiteenuse osutamiseks.
--
Moraal naistele: vähem madalat sugukiima (~ sugutungi) ehk mõttetuid suhteid, õnnelikum tulevik.
Moraal meestele: kui üritad naist enda käe järgi vormida nagu kaupa, millel peavad olema teatud omadused, siis õnnelikku suhet sa ei saa kunagi tundma. Raske leppida, aga naine on eraldiseisev isiksus, kelle elu mõte pole sind ümmardada ja sulle eldada :)
Hirmus küll, aga mul on olnud mitmeid "mõttetuid suhteid", hetkel 4-aastases suhtes ja väga õnnelik. Muide, mu mees teab kõikidest eelnevatest suhetest ja ei näe tema selles mingit probleemi. Meil on vastastikune austus, sinu kirjeldusest küll välja ei tule, et sa naist austaks- naine on sulle vaid vahend laste tootmiseks. Kurb, aga mis minu asi sulle moraali lugeda, kindlasti oled sa nii elades õnnelik, hea seks tühjendusvaba naisega garanteeritud :)
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Kustkohast sellised rumalused sünnivad?
22 October 2014 18:23
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Mihkelson's link.
Vene Föderatsioon ei saa rikkuda Eesti õhupiiri sest nad "lubavad" sellel piiril olla olemas endi arvates ja üle-üldse kogu Euroopa viisnurksel kapitalistliku süsteemi varjandil.
Ehk siis psüholoogiliselt kõrgemate ametnike arvates vaadatakse neid kes seda rikkumiseks peavad nagu ajast maha jäänud hulle kes arengu piirangu tõttu ei suuda ega taha mõista, et Nad teevad koostööd jõududega kes kogu planeeti hoomavad juba kindlas tulevikus.
Need osad usklikud veel on jalus ja maa inimesed kuid muidu.. arvatakse lihtsalt aja küsimus olema millal planeet uut ühtset korda aksepteerima hakkab targemates sektorites. Ülejäänude mõtlemine ja soovid on lihtsalt nagu kõhugaas mis on mööduv tagajärg mille pärast pole vaja arsti poole pöörduda.
Viisnurga Illuminaadid
Ehk siis psüholoogiliselt kõrgemate ametnike arvates vaadatakse neid kes seda rikkumiseks peavad nagu ajast maha jäänud hulle kes arengu piirangu tõttu ei suuda ega taha mõista, et Nad teevad koostööd jõududega kes kogu planeeti hoomavad juba kindlas tulevikus.
Need osad usklikud veel on jalus ja maa inimesed kuid muidu.. arvatakse lihtsalt aja küsimus olema millal planeet uut ühtset korda aksepteerima hakkab targemates sektorites. Ülejäänude mõtlemine ja soovid on lihtsalt nagu kõhugaas mis on mööduv tagajärg mille pärast pole vaja arsti poole pöörduda.
Viisnurga Illuminaadid
22 October 2014 17:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"Tulevi jaoks on muusikal elus sama suur roll kui armastusel.
«Isegi ühe mu langevarjuhüppe ajal tuli raadiosaatjast õpetaja märguannete asemel ooper. Laulsin siis maandumise kõrvalt kaasa ka.» muigab DJ.
DJ Triin Tulev avas novembris särava nimega DJ-agentuuri Funky Diamond.
Nüüd aga on varajases lapsepõlves omandatud muusika- ja tehnikapisik viinud Tulevi nii kaugele, et ta mängib plaate põhitööna nii Eestis kui ka Lätis
http://f.pmo.ee/f/2013/11/06/2601798t100h9ef2.jpg
http://elu24.postimees.ee/2687558/triin-tulev-eelistab-langevarjuhuppel-kuulata-opetaja-juhendite-asemel-ooperit
«Isegi ühe mu langevarjuhüppe ajal tuli raadiosaatjast õpetaja märguannete asemel ooper. Laulsin siis maandumise kõrvalt kaasa ka.» muigab DJ.
DJ Triin Tulev avas novembris särava nimega DJ-agentuuri Funky Diamond.
Nüüd aga on varajases lapsepõlves omandatud muusika- ja tehnikapisik viinud Tulevi nii kaugele, et ta mängib plaate põhitööna nii Eestis kui ka Lätis
http://f.pmo.ee/f/2013/11/06/2601798t100h9ef2.jpg
http://elu24.postimees.ee/2687558/triin-tulev-eelistab-langevarjuhuppel-kuulata-opetaja-juhendite-asemel-ooperit
http://f.pmo.ee/f/2013/11/06/2601798t100h9ef2.jpg
22 October 2014 11:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
." Triin Tulev enda poolt kokku pandud kogumik-albumit "USK LOOTUS ARMASTUS" ... toimub klubis Hollywood heategevuslik üritus, mille eesmärgiks puuetega lastele mänguasju koguda "
http://g3.nh.ee/images/pix/900x585/544aa8f2/file47105644_2ccfed3.jpg
http://publik.delfi.ee/news/inimesed/triin-tulev-kingib-jouludeks-eesti-puuetega-lastele-muusikat-ja-manguasju?id=65430262
http://g3.nh.ee/images/pix/900x585/544aa8f2/file47105644_2ccfed3.jpg
http://publik.delfi.ee/news/inimesed/triin-tulev-kingib-jouludeks-eesti-puuetega-lastele-muusikat-ja-manguasju?id=65430262
http://g3.nh.ee/images/pix/900x585/544aa8f2/file47105644_2ccfed3.jpg
22 October 2014 10:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Tulev DJ
«Hooligem Koos» sõnumit edastatakse läbi meestemaailma
,üheks partneriks on Nõmme Kalju jalgpalliklubi.
Kampaania eesmärgiks on juhtida tähelepanu rinnavähi varajasele avastamisele, diagnoosimise ja ravi probleemidele ning toetada vähiga võitlevaid naisi ja nende peresid haiguse ning sellega seotud hirmudega toimetulekuks.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cr5gRvSsUiI/UuJfdd1vG7I/AAAAAAAACaQ/Hr70giAiJvc/w544-h543-no/_MG_5647.JPG
http://elu24.postimees.ee/2824333/video-hooligem-koos-sonumit-edastatakse-labi-meestemaailma
http://www.delfi.ee/teemalehed/triin-tulev
«Hooligem Koos» sõnumit edastatakse läbi meestemaailma
,üheks partneriks on Nõmme Kalju jalgpalliklubi.
Kampaania eesmärgiks on juhtida tähelepanu rinnavähi varajasele avastamisele, diagnoosimise ja ravi probleemidele ning toetada vähiga võitlevaid naisi ja nende peresid haiguse ning sellega seotud hirmudega toimetulekuks.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cr5gRvSsUiI/UuJfdd1vG7I/AAAAAAAACaQ/Hr70giAiJvc/w544-h543-no/_MG_5647.JPG
http://elu24.postimees.ee/2824333/video-hooligem-koos-sonumit-edastatakse-labi-meestemaailma
http://www.delfi.ee/teemalehed/triin-tulev
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cr5gRvSsUiI/UuJfdd1vG7I/AAAAAAAACaQ/Hr70giAiJvc/w544-h543-no/_MG_5647.JPG
22 October 2014 10:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
DJ Tulev
http://g2.nh.ee/images/pix/520x360/555291b3/sound-club-67469516.jpg
http://www.postimees.ee/teema/triin_tulev
http://g2.nh.ee/images/pix/520x360/555291b3/sound-club-67469516.jpg
http://www.postimees.ee/teema/triin_tulev
http://g2.nh.ee/images/pix/520x360/555291b3/sound-club-67469516.jpg
22 October 2014 10:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
DJ Triin Tulev
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cr5gRvSsUiI/UuJfdd1vG7I/AAAAAAAACaQ/Hr70giAiJvc/w544-h543-no/_MG_5647.JPG
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cr5gRvSsUiI/UuJfdd1vG7I/AAAAAAAACaQ/Hr70giAiJvc/w544-h543-no/_MG_5647.JPG
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cr5gRvSsUiI/UuJfdd1vG7I/AAAAAAAACaQ/Hr70giAiJvc/w544-h543-no/_MG_5647.JPG
22 October 2014 10:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
. DJ Triin Tulev
http://g2.nh.ee/images/pix/520x360/555291b3/sound-club-67469516.jpg
http://g2.nh.ee/images/pix/520x360/555291b3/sound-club-67469516.jpg
http://g2.nh.ee/images/pix/520x360/555291b3/sound-club-67469516.jpg
22 October 2014 10:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Triin Tulev asutas perevägivalla ohvrite abistamise fondi.
«Kallid kaasmaalased, sõbrad ja tuttavad! Kuu tagasi sai välja öeldud, et peagi saate teiegi olla abiks ühe väga olulise heategevusliku aktsiooniga. Räägin nüüd kõigest lähemalt. Loon fondi perevägivalla all kannatanud inimestele. Elus Fond'i kaudu saavad ohvrid finantsilist toetust vajalike teraapiate jmt tarvis. Meie kaudu leiavad perevägivalla all kannatanud naised, mehed ja lapsed vaimset tuge - psühholooge, terapeute, me korraldame informatiivseid seminare ja leiame üheskoos probleemidele lahendusi,» teatas Triin Tulev sotsiaalmeedia vahendusel.
Lisaks toetavat fondi ka president Toomas Hendrik Ilves.
Teiste ohvrite seas tulebki täna esimest korda avalikult välja Triin Tulev, kes ehtis aastaid glamuuriajakirjanduse klantskaasi, aga tegelikult oli kauni fassaadi taga samal ajal jõhkra lähisuhtevägivalla ohver.
http://g1.nh.ee/images/pix/900x585/28476274/r2-aastahitt-65491410.jpg
http://elu24.postimees.ee/2946805/triin-tulev-asutas-perevagivalla-ohvrite-abistamise-fondi-ja-raagib-asjast-lahemalt-pealtnagijas
«Kallid kaasmaalased, sõbrad ja tuttavad! Kuu tagasi sai välja öeldud, et peagi saate teiegi olla abiks ühe väga olulise heategevusliku aktsiooniga. Räägin nüüd kõigest lähemalt. Loon fondi perevägivalla all kannatanud inimestele. Elus Fond'i kaudu saavad ohvrid finantsilist toetust vajalike teraapiate jmt tarvis. Meie kaudu leiavad perevägivalla all kannatanud naised, mehed ja lapsed vaimset tuge - psühholooge, terapeute, me korraldame informatiivseid seminare ja leiame üheskoos probleemidele lahendusi,» teatas Triin Tulev sotsiaalmeedia vahendusel.
Lisaks toetavat fondi ka president Toomas Hendrik Ilves.
Teiste ohvrite seas tulebki täna esimest korda avalikult välja Triin Tulev, kes ehtis aastaid glamuuriajakirjanduse klantskaasi, aga tegelikult oli kauni fassaadi taga samal ajal jõhkra lähisuhtevägivalla ohver.
http://g1.nh.ee/images/pix/900x585/28476274/r2-aastahitt-65491410.jpg
http://elu24.postimees.ee/2946805/triin-tulev-asutas-perevagivalla-ohvrite-abistamise-fondi-ja-raagib-asjast-lahemalt-pealtnagijas
http://g1.nh.ee/images/pix/900x585/28476274/r2-aastahitt-65491410.jpg
22 October 2014 10:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
.
http://f.pmo.ee/f/2012/11/03/1409282t100hc117.jpg
http://f.pmo.ee/f/2012/11/03/1409282t100hc117.jpg
http://f.pmo.ee/f/2012/11/03/1409282t100hc117.jpg
22 October 2014 10:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I think i get most of my mind in to co-operation of spirit.. should get at least (13.31) ... just sometimes it takes patience to explain mind that he needs to surrender, co+operate and to be friend with something that is be on mind so much that smartest part of mind has trouble to make rest of the mind stupid proof explanation and proof in safe way..
but its a must
but its a must
19 October 2014 18:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
:D
bastards uh? .. actually i like to see that i blocked the crime : )
(i as much there is the... i)
bastards uh? .. actually i like to see that i blocked the crime : )
(i as much there is the... i)
19 October 2014 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
:D
okey, tegelt tõsi on ikka tõsi sest see, et tõde olemas on on juba ise enesest ilus, see millest tõsi on, see aga enamuse silmis ei pruugi meeldiv olla
okey, tegelt tõsi on ikka tõsi sest see, et tõde olemas on on juba ise enesest ilus, see millest tõsi on, see aga enamuse silmis ei pruugi meeldiv olla
19 October 2014 16:36
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
true
19 October 2014 16:35
Margus Meigo commented on Pratik Jones Khobragade's post.
Group: Atheist Republic
toast18 October 2014 20:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
not the spartest thng to post it here.,. but hey.. :p
18 October 2014 09:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Keltrian Druid
But i do think, the spirit and ghost world with other time limits is around us all the time.. so in that sense.. is there point of secrets,
am kind of think up to now that secret was and is something in to direction of lie that help to keep us separated and with lower potential as whole workings of brain and reality is sifted as there would be ANY secret that humans can have
or the ones administrating our cell from where we are allowed to imagine the private worlds first at all..18 October 2014 06:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Keltrian Druid
But aren't the ones who manage The powerful prepared to handle any imaginable situation that might truly compromise what is needed to protected (can some even access any knowledge who might be in possession of compromiseble mind ... )18 October 2014 06:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"The film’s ending tells us that the only way this country can survive is if red and blue come together and combine our strengths"
http://www.ianwatson.info/plumbing-stanley-kubrick/
Stanley became intrigued and concerned about bizarre computer wizard with the ear trumpet, through whose hands the sacred disks were passing.
“Who is this Dave Ansible?” he demanded.
“An ansible,” I explained, “is an imaginary instantaneous interstellar communication device invented by Ursula le Guin. It’s an anagram of lesbian.”
-
Slightly grumpy by now, Dave explained that so as to avoid delay he had unerased the files on his hard disk by a laborious and tricky process; he wouldn’t make the mistake of being spontaneously helpful again.
“What if,” demanded Stanley, “he’s selling all our material to East European science fiction writers?”
Could anyone but myself and Stanley conceivably understand the Library of Babel that was being faxed and disked? No matter. “Ian, tell Ansible Dave he must get rid of the stuff off his hard disk by compressing it.”
-
Oh yes he did. “Of course he can compress his hard disk,” Stanley informed me. “He’s bull-shitting you! Ask him if he’s ever heard of… Norton Utilities!”
Throughout the 1990s disinformation (or wishful thinking) appeared in the press or on the Internet. Stanley was about to start filming the life of Coco Chanel. He was probably about to start filming in Bratislava a movie set in the aftermath of communism featuring a boy and a young woman – this came as a considerable surprise to the director of media liaison for Slovakia whom I happened to bump into at a convention in neighbouring Moravia, unless the chap had signed an oath of secrecy or was lying. Special effects wizards in Hollywood had built a robot boy for Stanley, who was about to begin filming AI in Ireland.
( https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=3A383B8CC1D03D22%211430 )
Setting AI aside temporarily, Stanley filmed – rather protractedly – the parallel project, Eyes Wide Shut. Rumour on the Internet was that he agreed to do this for Warner so that they would release vast sums of money for AI, to realize his true dream.
And then Stanley died.
Oh, and there is so much more
http://airshipdaily.com/blog/so-very-room-237-a-deeper-analysis-of-heathers
. The movie then would be a bitter commentary on the Reagan years, with red being the obvious symbol for communism, and blue representing the US of A; Heather Chandler-the-red is certainly an oppressive dictator, and when the hippie art teacher, Ms. Flemming, holds a group togetherness rally, it’s in front of a giant red Westerberg High School banner. When JD shows up to free Veronica was the jocks, he’s a blue beacon of light, while the oppressive jocks wear red varsity jackets. Red is evil, blue is good, and freedom (from the Heathers/Communists) is our hero’s goal.
-
The filmmakers aren’t saying that communism is the way since red wins out, just that total destruction isn’t the answer; if the high school is society—nay, the world—than the only way to destroy the red menace is to blow the whole thing up, which isn’t a worthy sacrifice.
-
almost related
Hüsker Dü's GREG NORTON talks about The Replacements in the documentary COLOR ME OBSESSED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=918wdcTwbzA
The Replacements - Let It Be (Full Album)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4kwokZdshF4#t=342
http://www.ianwatson.info/plumbing-stanley-kubrick/
Stanley became intrigued and concerned about bizarre computer wizard with the ear trumpet, through whose hands the sacred disks were passing.
“Who is this Dave Ansible?” he demanded.
“An ansible,” I explained, “is an imaginary instantaneous interstellar communication device invented by Ursula le Guin. It’s an anagram of lesbian.”
-
Slightly grumpy by now, Dave explained that so as to avoid delay he had unerased the files on his hard disk by a laborious and tricky process; he wouldn’t make the mistake of being spontaneously helpful again.
“What if,” demanded Stanley, “he’s selling all our material to East European science fiction writers?”
Could anyone but myself and Stanley conceivably understand the Library of Babel that was being faxed and disked? No matter. “Ian, tell Ansible Dave he must get rid of the stuff off his hard disk by compressing it.”
-
Oh yes he did. “Of course he can compress his hard disk,” Stanley informed me. “He’s bull-shitting you! Ask him if he’s ever heard of… Norton Utilities!”
Throughout the 1990s disinformation (or wishful thinking) appeared in the press or on the Internet. Stanley was about to start filming the life of Coco Chanel. He was probably about to start filming in Bratislava a movie set in the aftermath of communism featuring a boy and a young woman – this came as a considerable surprise to the director of media liaison for Slovakia whom I happened to bump into at a convention in neighbouring Moravia, unless the chap had signed an oath of secrecy or was lying. Special effects wizards in Hollywood had built a robot boy for Stanley, who was about to begin filming AI in Ireland.
( https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=3A383B8CC1D03D22%211430 )
Setting AI aside temporarily, Stanley filmed – rather protractedly – the parallel project, Eyes Wide Shut. Rumour on the Internet was that he agreed to do this for Warner so that they would release vast sums of money for AI, to realize his true dream.
And then Stanley died.
Oh, and there is so much more
http://airshipdaily.com/blog/so-very-room-237-a-deeper-analysis-of-heathers
. The movie then would be a bitter commentary on the Reagan years, with red being the obvious symbol for communism, and blue representing the US of A; Heather Chandler-the-red is certainly an oppressive dictator, and when the hippie art teacher, Ms. Flemming, holds a group togetherness rally, it’s in front of a giant red Westerberg High School banner. When JD shows up to free Veronica was the jocks, he’s a blue beacon of light, while the oppressive jocks wear red varsity jackets. Red is evil, blue is good, and freedom (from the Heathers/Communists) is our hero’s goal.
-
The filmmakers aren’t saying that communism is the way since red wins out, just that total destruction isn’t the answer; if the high school is society—nay, the world—than the only way to destroy the red menace is to blow the whole thing up, which isn’t a worthy sacrifice.
-
almost related
Hüsker Dü's GREG NORTON talks about The Replacements in the documentary COLOR ME OBSESSED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=918wdcTwbzA
The Replacements - Let It Be (Full Album)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4kwokZdshF4#t=342
http://www.ianwatson.info/plumbing-stanley-kubrick/
18 October 2014 06:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/almost-everything-in-dr-strangelove-was-true
"Half a century after Kubrick’s mad general, Jack D. Ripper, launched a nuclear strike on the Soviets to defend the purity of “our precious bodily fluids” from Communist subversion, we now know that American officers did indeed have the ability to start a Third World War on their own."
http://www.american-buddha.com/strangelove.toc.htm
"Despite the fact that Stalin deliberately helped bring Hitler and the Nazis to power, despite the Nazi-Communist alliance of 1939-41 under the Hitler-Stalin Pact, despite Mussolini's close ties to Moscow, despite the deep affinity between Nazi-fascists and communists demonstrated repeatedly in many countries by mass exchanges of membership between political organizations of the two persuasions, the average American still sees communism and Nazism-fascism as polar opposites.
(there was as much difference that one source was pro religion and other anti human free will... and that )
http://listverse.com/2014/01/17/10-insane-conspiracy-theories-about-stanley-kubrick/
Unlike our intricate breakdown of The Shining up there, the fluoride “conspiracy” of Dr. Strangelove is actually pretty straightforward. About halfway through the film a character sits down and explains to Peter Sellers that fluoridation of water is “the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face.”
In fact, the movie is so clearly mocking the anti-fluoride brigade that it’s spawned a counter-conspiracy theory, which claims Kubrick created the character to stop fluoride opponents from being taken seriously.
(bdw this guy who was main investigator in USA about "usefulness of fluoride" was an Communist... )
http://muse.jhu.edu/books/9780813172569
http://muse.jhu.edu/books/9780813172569/9780813172569-16.pdf
"Stanley Kubrick entered the annals of filmmaking just as the McCarthy crackdown on communists in Hollywood ended and the movie production code lost its power over the studios. No director was quicker to seize on unshackled topics than Kubrick was. In Fear and Desire (1953), soldiers behind the lines ambush a general and shoot him point-blank as he cries ..."
"Half a century after Kubrick’s mad general, Jack D. Ripper, launched a nuclear strike on the Soviets to defend the purity of “our precious bodily fluids” from Communist subversion, we now know that American officers did indeed have the ability to start a Third World War on their own."
http://www.american-buddha.com/strangelove.toc.htm
"Despite the fact that Stalin deliberately helped bring Hitler and the Nazis to power, despite the Nazi-Communist alliance of 1939-41 under the Hitler-Stalin Pact, despite Mussolini's close ties to Moscow, despite the deep affinity between Nazi-fascists and communists demonstrated repeatedly in many countries by mass exchanges of membership between political organizations of the two persuasions, the average American still sees communism and Nazism-fascism as polar opposites.
(there was as much difference that one source was pro religion and other anti human free will... and that )
http://listverse.com/2014/01/17/10-insane-conspiracy-theories-about-stanley-kubrick/
Unlike our intricate breakdown of The Shining up there, the fluoride “conspiracy” of Dr. Strangelove is actually pretty straightforward. About halfway through the film a character sits down and explains to Peter Sellers that fluoridation of water is “the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face.”
In fact, the movie is so clearly mocking the anti-fluoride brigade that it’s spawned a counter-conspiracy theory, which claims Kubrick created the character to stop fluoride opponents from being taken seriously.
(bdw this guy who was main investigator in USA about "usefulness of fluoride" was an Communist... )
http://muse.jhu.edu/books/9780813172569
http://muse.jhu.edu/books/9780813172569/9780813172569-16.pdf
"Stanley Kubrick entered the annals of filmmaking just as the McCarthy crackdown on communists in Hollywood ended and the movie production code lost its power over the studios. No director was quicker to seize on unshackled topics than Kubrick was. In Fear and Desire (1953), soldiers behind the lines ambush a general and shoot him point-blank as he cries ..."
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/almost-everything-in-dr-strangelove-was-true
18 October 2014 06:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
According to Kirk Douglas, Kubrick allegedly wanted to take credit for the Spartacus (1960) screenplay that was primarily written by Dalton Trumbo.
Duncan L. Cooper's 1996 article "Who Killed 'Spartacus'?" Trumbo was a friend of Edward Muhl, the boss of Universal Pictures. which was financing the film. According to Cooper, Howard Fast, a former Communist Party member who wrote the novel the film is based on, worked on the screenplay but received no credit.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000040/bio
http://realitysandwich.com/23226/kubrick_apollo/
"No one knows how the powers-that-be convinced Kubrick to
direct the Apollo landings. Maybe they had compromised Kubrick in some way. The fact that his brother, Raul Kubrick, was the head of the American Communist Party may have been one of the avenues pursued by the government to get Stanley to cooperate."
"The film production started in 1964 and went on to the release of
2001: A Space Odyssey in1968. Meanwhile the
Apollo program also began in 1964 and culminated with the first moon landings on July 20th, 1969. Also, it is very interesting to note that
scientist Frederick Ordway was working both for NASA and the Apollo program and was also Kubrick’s top science advisor for 2001: A Space Odyssey."
"Hoagland interprets the image on the right as proof of giant glass structures behind the astronaut and, for that matter, all over the surface of the moon."
" Because there is only one light source (the sun) how can there be multiple light angles on the moon"
"He left behind telltale evidence for his work. And he did this on purpose."
"I am sure that 2001: A Space Odyssey is the only film in MGM history where the executives who funded the movie never scrutinized the film.
Why weren’t they more interested in this very expensive
endeavor?
Because MGM did not fund 2001, the US Government did"
"In the original release of 2001 there were many credits thanking NASA and many of the aerospace companies that worked with NASA on the moon landings. These credits have since been removed from all subsequent releases of 2001. But for those of us old enough to remember, in the original credits Kubrick thanks a vast array of military and space corporations for their help in the production."
"Warner Brothers has even come out and admitted that they
re-edited the film. To this day they refuse to release a DVD of Stanley
Kubrick’s cut.
Stanley Kubrick insisted in his contract that this be the
date of the release. July 16th, 1999 is exactly 30 years to the day that Apollo 11 was launched."
---
In order to create these desert backgrounds Kubrick sent a
photographic team to Spain to shoot 8” X 10” Ektachrome slides. These slideswere then projected via the Front Screen Projection system onto the Scotchlite screen. The actors in ape costumes stood in front of the screen acting out the script.
Kubrick was doing Front Screen Projection in such a huge and grand fashion that the technicians were forced to sew together many screens of Scotchlite so that Kubrick could create the vastness needed for the ape scenes to be believable.
Duncan L. Cooper's 1996 article "Who Killed 'Spartacus'?" Trumbo was a friend of Edward Muhl, the boss of Universal Pictures. which was financing the film. According to Cooper, Howard Fast, a former Communist Party member who wrote the novel the film is based on, worked on the screenplay but received no credit.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000040/bio
http://realitysandwich.com/23226/kubrick_apollo/
"No one knows how the powers-that-be convinced Kubrick to
direct the Apollo landings. Maybe they had compromised Kubrick in some way. The fact that his brother, Raul Kubrick, was the head of the American Communist Party may have been one of the avenues pursued by the government to get Stanley to cooperate."
"The film production started in 1964 and went on to the release of
2001: A Space Odyssey in1968. Meanwhile the
Apollo program also began in 1964 and culminated with the first moon landings on July 20th, 1969. Also, it is very interesting to note that
scientist Frederick Ordway was working both for NASA and the Apollo program and was also Kubrick’s top science advisor for 2001: A Space Odyssey."
"Hoagland interprets the image on the right as proof of giant glass structures behind the astronaut and, for that matter, all over the surface of the moon."
" Because there is only one light source (the sun) how can there be multiple light angles on the moon"
"He left behind telltale evidence for his work. And he did this on purpose."
"I am sure that 2001: A Space Odyssey is the only film in MGM history where the executives who funded the movie never scrutinized the film.
Why weren’t they more interested in this very expensive
endeavor?
Because MGM did not fund 2001, the US Government did"
"In the original release of 2001 there were many credits thanking NASA and many of the aerospace companies that worked with NASA on the moon landings. These credits have since been removed from all subsequent releases of 2001. But for those of us old enough to remember, in the original credits Kubrick thanks a vast array of military and space corporations for their help in the production."
"Warner Brothers has even come out and admitted that they
re-edited the film. To this day they refuse to release a DVD of Stanley
Kubrick’s cut.
Stanley Kubrick insisted in his contract that this be the
date of the release. July 16th, 1999 is exactly 30 years to the day that Apollo 11 was launched."
---
In order to create these desert backgrounds Kubrick sent a
photographic team to Spain to shoot 8” X 10” Ektachrome slides. These slideswere then projected via the Front Screen Projection system onto the Scotchlite screen. The actors in ape costumes stood in front of the screen acting out the script.
Kubrick was doing Front Screen Projection in such a huge and grand fashion that the technicians were forced to sew together many screens of Scotchlite so that Kubrick could create the vastness needed for the ape scenes to be believable.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000040/bio
18 October 2014 06:19
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's link.
Himm.. nice way made but kind of missing the whole issue of five stars and that cross is nearest direct opposite to that, this is the reason another five star flag holder rejected christian base for EU so it can be based on money slavery and united with rest of the five stars around EU in coming days (as most popular software and portals, army organizations has integrated pentagram as well, as communists.. who did not go away but discovered they need to act and think bigger as they battle against heavenly powers.. )
Will look the second part as well, looks good so far (usually these kind of things are not worth the time as education about facts other then to see what kind of godless brain washing some video tries to promote)
Am still preaching the one god assumption is the best way to move in to direction of freedom,
way more better then under socialism where 10 some supper rich run entire world resources... lets remind what was main project of five stars about religion what was left from Romans and Vikings..?
As bible says.. ya should obey no man, specially if one is lacking elementary religious realizations
Will look the second part as well, looks good so far (usually these kind of things are not worth the time as education about facts other then to see what kind of godless brain washing some video tries to promote)
Am still preaching the one god assumption is the best way to move in to direction of freedom,
way more better then under socialism where 10 some supper rich run entire world resources... lets remind what was main project of five stars about religion what was left from Romans and Vikings..?
As bible says.. ya should obey no man, specially if one is lacking elementary religious realizations
18 October 2014 04:38
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's post.
Sama ka meditatsiooni tehnoloogiatega jms,
18 October 2014 04:13
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's post.
Ma tean, ma tunnen ennast sama moodi kui vanematele seeni ja kanepit pakun, kuid wast ei saa neid süüdistada.. vene ajaga ja eelnevalt lihtsalt nii palju petetud.. kellel enam usku jätkuks arusaamaks.. et Loodus ja Looja on me juures abivaheditega koguaeg olnud silmade avamiseks...
muidugi kui avad silmad pimedas maailmas siis suht ebamugav ikkagi... kuid eks see on see makse otsetee taevajuurde pääsemise eest mis tuleb maksta.. et SINA tead aga Su ümber ei soovita teada, tunda ei Su pakutud ega ka Sind kui palju peale käid... omamoodi karistus vast sest see sisemuse kripeldama paneb aga tead, et ei tohi ega saa solvuda..
muidugi kui avad silmad pimedas maailmas siis suht ebamugav ikkagi... kuid eks see on see makse otsetee taevajuurde pääsemise eest mis tuleb maksta.. et SINA tead aga Su ümber ei soovita teada, tunda ei Su pakutud ega ka Sind kui palju peale käid... omamoodi karistus vast sest see sisemuse kripeldama paneb aga tead, et ei tohi ega saa solvuda..
18 October 2014 04:12
Margus Meigo commented on Seppo Kanerva's link.
he really tries not to see it as you can see from hes face
18 October 2014 04:06
Margus Meigo commented on Sergei Sergejev's photo.
Dark socolate, browinie ?
18 October 2014 03:34
Margus Meigo commented on Sergei Sergejev's photo.
What is that?
18 October 2014 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on Dante Rocero Bernardino's post.
why they cut off hes beard on every picture that i see lately, this is makes me irritated,
perhaps we should ban these pictures as they give a bit wrong message about him, as he would go to Barbara shop and cut hes hair and stuff for people likeness,
keeping hes hair was one special essential part of the message as there is reason for this, its not an fashion statement (even thought it is kind of.. in the sense that people see that who did not before and will start to copy as well.. and its good )
perhaps we should ban these pictures as they give a bit wrong message about him, as he would go to Barbara shop and cut hes hair and stuff for people likeness,
keeping hes hair was one special essential part of the message as there is reason for this, its not an fashion statement (even thought it is kind of.. in the sense that people see that who did not before and will start to copy as well.. and its good )
18 October 2014 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on Ele GE's link.
best rest and travel for Hes Spirit
18 October 2014 03:29
Margus Meigo commented on Ryan Field's link.
people really miss the point of getting married in here, they can say "stepping in legal contract" or something like that but marriage is RELIGIOUS SPIRITUAL ceremony for people Who has become ONE (literally, spiritually) ... people in REAL love become as ONE NEW body and this is not some new age mambo-jumbo but you yourself can try this out with people who you care for and proper amount of stronger psychedelia when you are next to each other in complete trust,
this real creeper if you have not experienced that before and have lived in material imagination only. For nature and mystic people, for women who has been keep their heart clean this experience should be pretty self explanatory as its basically picking up male body to join it with holy communion
I really can not imagine this is possible to happen with 2 guys as they would still need a women to join with final high state of realty as this is how our species are made here, where female is made as a key for man to become free from this cosmic psychiatric prison paradise... after the transformation all around has been changed as your Focus Spirit is located in "clean world" and your copy body will resonate and will share love bits and doings in left behind worlds where "normal" people who are not in realization will see them as just some cute couple who shares good examples and some other emotions in some cells who see them but most likely realizes not that these couple REAL body and spirit IS in another version of this same world, Safe .. as long they , the man, keeps the respect for female as hes soul keeper... when He slips then the Focus Spirit will transfer him in to ordinary world back between the troubles... it can happen so slow and smooth that rarely some people notice.. and there is no jumping back and worth after some mistakes..
some people realize it as literal world change when they are awake, ... and the pain that female is feeling because of the male maleness will have to be served back by male in to the troubled world ... there is short cuts with drugs to Knock Knock Paradise door.. but rarely is possible to stay your spirit focused there if you do not know what are the reasons you are not needed there first at all.. and before your work is done... and full forgiveness is reached from all higher female minds who has touched your heart.
You (male) yourself have to forgive in full scale to everyone as well, this is basic first step that should be elementary
Well, at least in my book its like this.
(google: new body bible )
(google: one flesh bible ) ... to see that am not totally tripped out , but you still gotta experience it to know what i talking about... but once you do, you will PROBABLY not spend time in here commenting "oh yeah, that was great,will feel that now..." ... this is the trouble with real love.. you rarely if at all, can interview and prove it to someone else then who is already believing
this real creeper if you have not experienced that before and have lived in material imagination only. For nature and mystic people, for women who has been keep their heart clean this experience should be pretty self explanatory as its basically picking up male body to join it with holy communion
I really can not imagine this is possible to happen with 2 guys as they would still need a women to join with final high state of realty as this is how our species are made here, where female is made as a key for man to become free from this cosmic psychiatric prison paradise... after the transformation all around has been changed as your Focus Spirit is located in "clean world" and your copy body will resonate and will share love bits and doings in left behind worlds where "normal" people who are not in realization will see them as just some cute couple who shares good examples and some other emotions in some cells who see them but most likely realizes not that these couple REAL body and spirit IS in another version of this same world, Safe .. as long they , the man, keeps the respect for female as hes soul keeper... when He slips then the Focus Spirit will transfer him in to ordinary world back between the troubles... it can happen so slow and smooth that rarely some people notice.. and there is no jumping back and worth after some mistakes..
some people realize it as literal world change when they are awake, ... and the pain that female is feeling because of the male maleness will have to be served back by male in to the troubled world ... there is short cuts with drugs to Knock Knock Paradise door.. but rarely is possible to stay your spirit focused there if you do not know what are the reasons you are not needed there first at all.. and before your work is done... and full forgiveness is reached from all higher female minds who has touched your heart.
You (male) yourself have to forgive in full scale to everyone as well, this is basic first step that should be elementary
Well, at least in my book its like this.
(google: new body bible )
(google: one flesh bible ) ... to see that am not totally tripped out , but you still gotta experience it to know what i talking about... but once you do, you will PROBABLY not spend time in here commenting "oh yeah, that was great,will feel that now..." ... this is the trouble with real love.. you rarely if at all, can interview and prove it to someone else then who is already believing
18 October 2014 03:24
Margus Meigo commented on Karl Altau's link.
main difference for Her is that out of three guys one suit is wearing glasses
18 October 2014 02:55
Margus Meigo commented on Jaan Ca's link.
ilus sinine
18 October 2014 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
I know we like protest and burning down these constructs build by who seem to be lost hes soul and spirit .. but am still strongly support pop artists who do their job of getting problematic messages to the masses hearts
what you say London is ?
(little bit go with the video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV2ssT8lzj8 ... mans look to bully s )https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV2ssT8lzj8
18 October 2014 01:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt1AXEZOrM8 to rise attention to bulling in society early levels and self empowerment
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(She and Lana Shea also made Burn MotherF.. video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt1AXEZOrM8 with Robert Stanley Montes and Michael Baker but that is just for promotion)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt1AXEZOrM8
18 October 2014 01:56
Margus Meigo commented on Nana Jovaun Kwame's note.
I can assure, that reallity is even more serious then that. Just to calm us a bit..
Am try to remeber.. how many other hazards there is in Earth that only takes less then 5000 lives per year
Just keep Jehovah near (and all the good plants we have given to see be on this world order we think there is at first.. most of our tension is about plants who teach you who is female..)
Am try to remeber.. how many other hazards there is in Earth that only takes less then 5000 lives per year
Just keep Jehovah near (and all the good plants we have given to see be on this world order we think there is at first.. most of our tension is about plants who teach you who is female..)
17 October 2014 14:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And for finishing note:
CrayCray This is absolutely irresponsible of Wikileaks. The thought of releasing vaguely(Ebola-esque) dangerous software to individuals who are not oppressive governments and who have not paid hefty sums of money to the private corporation producing said "weaponized malware" is terrifying. Perhaps they can still adjust and charge money and make sure that the individuals who have downloaded it can assist oppressive governments who HAVE paid the private company for their noble efforts in weaponizing malware for public consumption. Boo Wikileaks! Yay capitalist weaponized malware!
MildHypocrisy
16 September, 2014 18:52
wikileaks finfisher
David Gewirtz has a problem with wiwleaks publishing destructive malware sold for millions of $$ profit to spy on people, but not with the company making the software. You can't make this stuff up. Stupidity abounds.
beamerzoid
/slant/
please tell us you're trolling with this editorial
trefrog
calling the kettle black
I find it difficult to reconcile the fact that the author can condemn the activity of publishing how to use malware while giving specific instructions on how to find out such things. Rather than discuss the issue without deliberately naming sources, he goes so far as rattling off a bunch of name calling to who he declares as the villain. Perhaps being a hypocrite is the way to get more readers, which seems to be a form of malware in and of itself. Clever? Did we need to know about this revealed "secret"? Or is it ok because it is not a "secret" anymore? (Thanks to the author too!)
gdubuque
Author is a member of the Government-Media-Complex
"U.S. policy advisor" "featured in the History Channel special The President's Book of Secrets" "member of the National Press Club"
Might as well say CIA asset whose buddies just lost a toy.
hawks5999
16 September, 2014 18:33
You see now why i like comments sometimes more then article himself (or her, what was the original sex of internets again)
https://wikileaks.org/spyfiles4/
https://wikileaks.org/spyfiles4/customers.html (Estonia, 37 licenses! Just under one account )
213.168.28.91 (Estonia)
2012:
http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/finfisher.pdf (June 29 2010)
http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002114.html (March 8, 2011)
https://citizenlab.org/2012/07/from-bahrain-with-love-finfishers-spy-kit-exposed/
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-25/cyber-attacks-on-activists-traced-to-finfisher-spyware-of-gamma.html
http://www.csoonline.com/article/2132115/data-protection/csos-warned-to-watch-for-finfisher-spyware.html By Antone Gonsalves
https://community.rapid7.com/community/infosec/blog/2012/08/08/finfisher
https://www.virustotal.com/et/file/62bde3bac3782d36f9f2e56db097a4672e70463e11971fad5de060b191efb196/analysis/
CrayCray This is absolutely irresponsible of Wikileaks. The thought of releasing vaguely(Ebola-esque) dangerous software to individuals who are not oppressive governments and who have not paid hefty sums of money to the private corporation producing said "weaponized malware" is terrifying. Perhaps they can still adjust and charge money and make sure that the individuals who have downloaded it can assist oppressive governments who HAVE paid the private company for their noble efforts in weaponizing malware for public consumption. Boo Wikileaks! Yay capitalist weaponized malware!
MildHypocrisy
16 September, 2014 18:52
wikileaks finfisher
David Gewirtz has a problem with wiwleaks publishing destructive malware sold for millions of $$ profit to spy on people, but not with the company making the software. You can't make this stuff up. Stupidity abounds.
beamerzoid
/slant/
please tell us you're trolling with this editorial
trefrog
calling the kettle black
I find it difficult to reconcile the fact that the author can condemn the activity of publishing how to use malware while giving specific instructions on how to find out such things. Rather than discuss the issue without deliberately naming sources, he goes so far as rattling off a bunch of name calling to who he declares as the villain. Perhaps being a hypocrite is the way to get more readers, which seems to be a form of malware in and of itself. Clever? Did we need to know about this revealed "secret"? Or is it ok because it is not a "secret" anymore? (Thanks to the author too!)
gdubuque
Author is a member of the Government-Media-Complex
"U.S. policy advisor" "featured in the History Channel special The President's Book of Secrets" "member of the National Press Club"
Might as well say CIA asset whose buddies just lost a toy.
hawks5999
16 September, 2014 18:33
You see now why i like comments sometimes more then article himself (or her, what was the original sex of internets again)
https://wikileaks.org/spyfiles4/
https://wikileaks.org/spyfiles4/customers.html (Estonia, 37 licenses! Just under one account )
213.168.28.91 (Estonia)
2012:
http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/finfisher.pdf (June 29 2010)
http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002114.html (March 8, 2011)
https://citizenlab.org/2012/07/from-bahrain-with-love-finfishers-spy-kit-exposed/
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-25/cyber-attacks-on-activists-traced-to-finfisher-spyware-of-gamma.html
http://www.csoonline.com/article/2132115/data-protection/csos-warned-to-watch-for-finfisher-spyware.html By Antone Gonsalves
https://community.rapid7.com/community/infosec/blog/2012/08/08/finfisher
https://www.virustotal.com/et/file/62bde3bac3782d36f9f2e56db097a4672e70463e11971fad5de060b191efb196/analysis/
https://wikileaks.org/spyfiles4/
16 October 2014 15:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But Merlin knows that:
Secret kills more than truth does
Secret kills more than truth does
~--~--~--~--~--~- ~--~--~--~--~--
"Res Publica", in English The Public Thing, is inseparable from Democracy (The People rules): how could The People rule, handle their interests, without knowing EVERYTHING about them? How could they protect from the (high) risk that some elected ones start to steal and to act against The People?
We all know that WikiLeaks has become known for unveiling organized, planned, murders of innocent civilians. Such killings inevitably and automatically become numerous and systematic as soon as there is no more control of the power by the citizens - and Secret is the total weapon of the mass killers against any and every control, as was proved under Nazis, Bolcheviks, Borgias, and so many others.
So, secret services, secret courts, secret affairs in general, have always been fought for good by the regular citizens, fought in words by the ones climbing into power, then *sought* by the same ones when they have reached the top of the powers in place.
No wonder that powers in place, supported by their shill article writers and their shill anonymous forumists, are constantly fighting FOR secret thus AGAINST truth, republic and democracy.
If democracy was still alive, posts as this one of mine would be an overwhelming majority, Bradley Manning would be a hero, and the ones jailing him, forcing him to say things he didn't want, and publicly calling for his murder, would be prosecuted and condemned for call to assassination.
Instead we are seeing right here others anonymously posting calls to murder the ones telling (or posturing as telling) the Truth, with none replying or protesting.
People who admit such destruction of democracy and civilization will die faster than they fear.
Versailles, Tue 16 Sep 2014 17:42:20 +0200
Michel Merlin
16 September, 2014 15:42
Secret kills more than truth does
Secret kills more than truth does
~--~--~--~--~--~- ~--~--~--~--~--
"Res Publica", in English The Public Thing, is inseparable from Democracy (The People rules): how could The People rule, handle their interests, without knowing EVERYTHING about them? How could they protect from the (high) risk that some elected ones start to steal and to act against The People?
We all know that WikiLeaks has become known for unveiling organized, planned, murders of innocent civilians. Such killings inevitably and automatically become numerous and systematic as soon as there is no more control of the power by the citizens - and Secret is the total weapon of the mass killers against any and every control, as was proved under Nazis, Bolcheviks, Borgias, and so many others.
So, secret services, secret courts, secret affairs in general, have always been fought for good by the regular citizens, fought in words by the ones climbing into power, then *sought* by the same ones when they have reached the top of the powers in place.
No wonder that powers in place, supported by their shill article writers and their shill anonymous forumists, are constantly fighting FOR secret thus AGAINST truth, republic and democracy.
If democracy was still alive, posts as this one of mine would be an overwhelming majority, Bradley Manning would be a hero, and the ones jailing him, forcing him to say things he didn't want, and publicly calling for his murder, would be prosecuted and condemned for call to assassination.
Instead we are seeing right here others anonymously posting calls to murder the ones telling (or posturing as telling) the Truth, with none replying or protesting.
People who admit such destruction of democracy and civilization will die faster than they fear.
Versailles, Tue 16 Sep 2014 17:42:20 +0200
Michel Merlin
16 September, 2014 15:42
16 October 2014 15:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Some more reasonable people keep wondering:
It's not that clear cut
I'm not saying I agree with what WikiLeaks did or that I'd do the same thing, but it's not a completely crazy thing to do.
They probably counting on the fallout to force change.
If they just wanted protection in place, turning the malware over to Kaspersky, Symantec, and so on would have accomplished that.
So what they're probably thinking is that by causing some pain now and hoping it's enough that "Something gets done!", they're sparing the world a lot more pain later and in the meantime at least partially defanging some bad guys. They're activists and this is a way to force change, not just argue for it.
Again, not saying I agree or would have made the same decision, just that there likely was a purpose beyond mere publicity. Then again, they could just be crazy irresponsible idiots. Shrug.
Timothy Poplaski
PS: The lawsuits
It just occurred to me that anyone harmed by this stuff can probably sue Gamma Group International for damages due to their negligent lack of security. Enough lawsuits, no more company.
Wonder where all the unemployed hackers will end up?
Timothy Poplaski
Germany
It is sometimes difficult to "sue' foreign entities. That is, companies selling weaponized stuff outside the U.S.
hforman@...
16 September, 2014 17:21
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iPhone is not affected, unless you jailbreak (i.e. remove Apple's security)
FinFisher useless against iPhone.
http://www.zdnet.com/apples-ios-blocks-govt-spying-efforts-gammas-finspy-useless-against-iphone-7000032547/
login@...
appearences
You appear not to consider how apple works, for instance the latest icloud hack and leaked celeb photos.. Apple flat out stated there was no flaw announced the find my phone flaw (source of the icloud hack) was patched. Whenever there is problem with an apple devices they deny deny deny then fix it.. Knowing that and the fact that Apple is vastly trying to supply Enterprise and Governments, would you not expect false information to be told since a revelation may be hurtful to the company's profits and image?
Nate_K
It's not that clear cut
I'm not saying I agree with what WikiLeaks did or that I'd do the same thing, but it's not a completely crazy thing to do.
They probably counting on the fallout to force change.
If they just wanted protection in place, turning the malware over to Kaspersky, Symantec, and so on would have accomplished that.
So what they're probably thinking is that by causing some pain now and hoping it's enough that "Something gets done!", they're sparing the world a lot more pain later and in the meantime at least partially defanging some bad guys. They're activists and this is a way to force change, not just argue for it.
Again, not saying I agree or would have made the same decision, just that there likely was a purpose beyond mere publicity. Then again, they could just be crazy irresponsible idiots. Shrug.
Timothy Poplaski
PS: The lawsuits
It just occurred to me that anyone harmed by this stuff can probably sue Gamma Group International for damages due to their negligent lack of security. Enough lawsuits, no more company.
Wonder where all the unemployed hackers will end up?
Timothy Poplaski
Germany
It is sometimes difficult to "sue' foreign entities. That is, companies selling weaponized stuff outside the U.S.
hforman@...
16 September, 2014 17:21
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iPhone is not affected, unless you jailbreak (i.e. remove Apple's security)
FinFisher useless against iPhone.
http://www.zdnet.com/apples-ios-blocks-govt-spying-efforts-gammas-finspy-useless-against-iphone-7000032547/
login@...
appearences
You appear not to consider how apple works, for instance the latest icloud hack and leaked celeb photos.. Apple flat out stated there was no flaw announced the find my phone flaw (source of the icloud hack) was patched. Whenever there is problem with an apple devices they deny deny deny then fix it.. Knowing that and the fact that Apple is vastly trying to supply Enterprise and Governments, would you not expect false information to be told since a revelation may be hurtful to the company's profits and image?
Nate_K
http://www.zdnet.com/apples-ios-blocks-govt-spying-efforts-gammas-finspy-useless-against-iphone-7000032547/
16 October 2014 15:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And then some people or trolls say:
They need to be killed!
All of the idiots at WikiLeaks should be lined up and summarily executed. A bounty should be placed on their heads, dead or alive, preferably dead. These jackwagons are cyber-terrorists, nothing more, and should be treated as such. Death to Julian Assange!
thetwonkey
16 September, 2014 15:11
They need to be killed!
All of the idiots at WikiLeaks should be lined up and summarily executed. A bounty should be placed on their heads, dead or alive, preferably dead. These jackwagons are cyber-terrorists, nothing more, and should be treated as such. Death to Julian Assange!
thetwonkey
16 September, 2014 15:11
16 October 2014 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Reply to comments (look the last comment on last post)
Precisely
I was going to make this point myself - sure, it is crazy, but it is precisely in the same vein as a security researcher giving full public disclosure of a zero day vulnerability that hasn't been patched by the vendor after months of warnings. Sure, to exploit a zero day you need to write the malware yourself, not just download it off the Internet, but the analogy stands - any security software not successfully detecting Finfisher a few days ago is absolutely doing so now, and if not it will be in very very short order. Maybe private communication with security companies first might have been a better play, but you can't deny that this will get the fastest outcome.
I've got a better analogy for you, David - there's a biowarfare agent out there in use by governments and cops but all the hand waving and pointing trying to get something done about this and have it taken seriously hasn't moved anyone an inch in *YEARS*. So someone comes along and sets up a pavilion in the middle of Times Square during a biological sciences symposium and leaves a sealed cannister there with warning signs all over it and a placard proclaiming 'Biological warfare agent - free samples! Beware exposure will KILL YOU! All you scientists across the road, we recommend you concoct an antidote quick-smart before all these nice people kill themselves.' Although, of course, you also have to assume that a team of biochemists can concoct an antidote to a bioweapon within a day or two of analysing a sample, because this IS possible with security software. It is NOT possible with a Bioweapon, not in this reality.
So please, kindly refrain from making unreasonably alarmist, emotive analogies - no one's going to die as a result of this. In fact, in a roundabout way it is actually making the world a whole lot safer. Distributing a bioweapon will kill people, pretty much instantly, and you will be months to years from an effective antidote (assuming you ever develop one). The two are not comparable. You are not being a reasonable journalist - you're being a shrill Chicken Little doom predictor with an axe to grind. Seriously, try reporting the news without writing like you're out to impress your friends with your biting wit. You can point out the problems with their approach dispassionately without making your story a personal attack. You could even try seeing the other side of it - that, while a bit crazy and reckless, it will certainly get results.
Wikileaks killed Finfisher. I hope any 'law enforcement' agency and government using it illegally is investigated and prosecuted out of existence.
TrevorX
16 September, 2014 15:26
Which Anti-Virus and/or Anti-Malware has FinFisher Detection and Removal?
All of them ;-)
I'd say, if they don't already have such capabilities, they sure will soon! After discovery and analysis of malicious software, most labs have signatures being pushed out to their software within days (assuming an exhaustive quality analysis is performed) but sometimes hours if the threat is considered grave enough (a few false positives is a small price to pay for stopping fast spreading viruses or malware).
TrevorX
V1 is detected by only 6 out of 54 AV products on the shelf. V2 is currently undetectable.
Nate_K
Security by obscurity is unethical
Malware is not an Nuclear, Biological, or Chemical warfare agent. It's not going to directly kill anyone. The problem with not telling everyone what's out there is that only the bad guys, and a couple of cybercops are going to know about it, the rest of the world is a target, or dead meat. If all other methods of notification and escalation of the problem fail, then a Wikileaks-level stunt is what is required. The question is, is the damage that MAY result from a live release greater or less than the damage caused by clandestine release and use on the ignorant population? History has shown that hiding it has always resulted in greater damage in the long run; if only because someone will demonstrate how damaging the malware is while nobody else knows about it.
Dr_Zinj
I Disagree
When malware can disrupt hospitals, nuclear power plants, factories, defense agencies MALWARE can kill many people. Supposing malware could cause a missle launch. I'm pretty sure this malware in question was not aimed at the user sitting at home checking his or her email. Malware can easily be an agent exactly the same as nuclear, biological or chemical agents because it can trigger all of those agents, even if the agent was really a peaceful agent such as a nuclear power plant.
hforman@...
Precisely
I was going to make this point myself - sure, it is crazy, but it is precisely in the same vein as a security researcher giving full public disclosure of a zero day vulnerability that hasn't been patched by the vendor after months of warnings. Sure, to exploit a zero day you need to write the malware yourself, not just download it off the Internet, but the analogy stands - any security software not successfully detecting Finfisher a few days ago is absolutely doing so now, and if not it will be in very very short order. Maybe private communication with security companies first might have been a better play, but you can't deny that this will get the fastest outcome.
I've got a better analogy for you, David - there's a biowarfare agent out there in use by governments and cops but all the hand waving and pointing trying to get something done about this and have it taken seriously hasn't moved anyone an inch in *YEARS*. So someone comes along and sets up a pavilion in the middle of Times Square during a biological sciences symposium and leaves a sealed cannister there with warning signs all over it and a placard proclaiming 'Biological warfare agent - free samples! Beware exposure will KILL YOU! All you scientists across the road, we recommend you concoct an antidote quick-smart before all these nice people kill themselves.' Although, of course, you also have to assume that a team of biochemists can concoct an antidote to a bioweapon within a day or two of analysing a sample, because this IS possible with security software. It is NOT possible with a Bioweapon, not in this reality.
So please, kindly refrain from making unreasonably alarmist, emotive analogies - no one's going to die as a result of this. In fact, in a roundabout way it is actually making the world a whole lot safer. Distributing a bioweapon will kill people, pretty much instantly, and you will be months to years from an effective antidote (assuming you ever develop one). The two are not comparable. You are not being a reasonable journalist - you're being a shrill Chicken Little doom predictor with an axe to grind. Seriously, try reporting the news without writing like you're out to impress your friends with your biting wit. You can point out the problems with their approach dispassionately without making your story a personal attack. You could even try seeing the other side of it - that, while a bit crazy and reckless, it will certainly get results.
Wikileaks killed Finfisher. I hope any 'law enforcement' agency and government using it illegally is investigated and prosecuted out of existence.
TrevorX
16 September, 2014 15:26
Which Anti-Virus and/or Anti-Malware has FinFisher Detection and Removal?
All of them ;-)
I'd say, if they don't already have such capabilities, they sure will soon! After discovery and analysis of malicious software, most labs have signatures being pushed out to their software within days (assuming an exhaustive quality analysis is performed) but sometimes hours if the threat is considered grave enough (a few false positives is a small price to pay for stopping fast spreading viruses or malware).
TrevorX
V1 is detected by only 6 out of 54 AV products on the shelf. V2 is currently undetectable.
Nate_K
Security by obscurity is unethical
Malware is not an Nuclear, Biological, or Chemical warfare agent. It's not going to directly kill anyone. The problem with not telling everyone what's out there is that only the bad guys, and a couple of cybercops are going to know about it, the rest of the world is a target, or dead meat. If all other methods of notification and escalation of the problem fail, then a Wikileaks-level stunt is what is required. The question is, is the damage that MAY result from a live release greater or less than the damage caused by clandestine release and use on the ignorant population? History has shown that hiding it has always resulted in greater damage in the long run; if only because someone will demonstrate how damaging the malware is while nobody else knows about it.
Dr_Zinj
I Disagree
When malware can disrupt hospitals, nuclear power plants, factories, defense agencies MALWARE can kill many people. Supposing malware could cause a missle launch. I'm pretty sure this malware in question was not aimed at the user sitting at home checking his or her email. Malware can easily be an agent exactly the same as nuclear, biological or chemical agents because it can trigger all of those agents, even if the agent was really a peaceful agent such as a nuclear power plant.
hforman@...
16 October 2014 15:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Topography: First, First, Security, Women, Poverty, Fishermen, Farmers, Youth, Environment, Future, Trees, Nutrition, Diversity, Water, Food .:.
Fighting, Security, Women, Against, Hunger,Fight, Security, Against, Security, Against, Security, Right, Security, Against, Crisis, Cooperatives, Systems...
2014: Family Farming: “Feeding the world, caring for the earth”
Finally we arrived at Seiklejate Vennaskond type of solutions!
Really went out of hand after 1995..
1981: Food comes first
1982: Food comes first
1983: Food security
1984: Women in agriculture
1985: Rural poverty
1986: Fishermen and fishing communities
1987: Small farmers
1988: Rural youth
1989: Food and the environment
1990: Food for the future
1991: Trees for life
1992: Food and nutrition
1993: Harvesting nature's diversity
1994: Water for life
1995: Food for all
1996: Fighting hunger and malnutrition
1997: Investing in food security
1998: Women feed the world
1999: Youth against hunger
2000: A millennium free from hunger
2001: Fight hunger to reduce poverty
2002: Water: source of food security
2003: Working together for an international alliance against hunger
2004: Biodiversity for food security
2005: Agriculture and intercultural dialogue
2006: Investing in agriculture for food security
2007: The right to food
2008: World food security: the challenges of climate change and bioenergy
2009: Achieving food security in times of crisis
2010: United against hunger
2011: Food prices - from crisis to stability
2012: Agricultural cooperatives – key to feeding the world
2013: Sustainable Food Systems for Food Security and Nutrition
2014: Family Farming: “Feeding the world, caring for the earth”
Imagine
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f9/Worldfoodday2009logo.gif
Fighting, Security, Women, Against, Hunger,Fight, Security, Against, Security, Against, Security, Right, Security, Against, Crisis, Cooperatives, Systems...
2014: Family Farming: “Feeding the world, caring for the earth”
Finally we arrived at Seiklejate Vennaskond type of solutions!
Really went out of hand after 1995..
1981: Food comes first
1982: Food comes first
1983: Food security
1984: Women in agriculture
1985: Rural poverty
1986: Fishermen and fishing communities
1987: Small farmers
1988: Rural youth
1989: Food and the environment
1990: Food for the future
1991: Trees for life
1992: Food and nutrition
1993: Harvesting nature's diversity
1994: Water for life
1995: Food for all
1996: Fighting hunger and malnutrition
1997: Investing in food security
1998: Women feed the world
1999: Youth against hunger
2000: A millennium free from hunger
2001: Fight hunger to reduce poverty
2002: Water: source of food security
2003: Working together for an international alliance against hunger
2004: Biodiversity for food security
2005: Agriculture and intercultural dialogue
2006: Investing in agriculture for food security
2007: The right to food
2008: World food security: the challenges of climate change and bioenergy
2009: Achieving food security in times of crisis
2010: United against hunger
2011: Food prices - from crisis to stability
2012: Agricultural cooperatives – key to feeding the world
2013: Sustainable Food Systems for Food Security and Nutrition
2014: Family Farming: “Feeding the world, caring for the earth”
Imagine
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f9/Worldfoodday2009logo.gif
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f9/Worldfoodday2009logo.gif
16 October 2014 15:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
nagu taara fänngi
16 October 2014 14:51
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
okey see kurb aga päris naljakas
16 October 2014 14:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kui täpsem olla siis see tatrapudru rukkisega
16 October 2014 14:23
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
for me it was most cheapes place i have been15 October 2014 18:17
Margus Meigo commented on Michal Hipolit Sławik's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
smoke more drink less
cuddle even more15 October 2014 18:17
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
nääh ma unustasin oma mandi maha empsi poole vist
14 October 2014 23:43
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
"i was not on phone i was working on new code to make you work for us"
"Uh?"
"Enter"
"Yes Sir "
"Uh?"
"Enter"
"Yes Sir "
14 October 2014 23:43
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
ning nad isegi arenenud nyyd nii kaugele, et http://mashable.com/2014/10/13/denmark-bestiality-tourism/ ... lopuks
http://mashable.com/2014/10/13/denmark-bestiality-tourism/
14 October 2014 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
lammas, mänsester united
14 October 2014 23:37
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
tegelt see vb universumi jumala test, et sa ikka kindel oled oma uskumusts
14 October 2014 23:37
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
rafaello
14 October 2014 23:36
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Esimene on ikka parem , sest teine nutab veel hullemini hiljem..
Kes esimesena nutab nutab paremini... : )
Kes esimesena nutab nutab paremini... : )
14 October 2014 23:35
Margus Meigo commented on MTÜ Elus Fond's photo.
Juba algkoolis tekkis mõte teha A Teamsi sarnane tõsiste meeste grupp kes siis lõplikult iga mehega need asjad korda teeks nad metsa viies..
See on selline teema mida on väga raske ilmalikult ravida
ma enam kui veendunud, et see põhjus Maa väline,
Kuid jah... veelgi enam... MIKS oo miks te naised need mehed kaissu võtate, kes oma elu sedasi elanud, et need vaimud enda sisse lasknud kes teid sedasi kohtleb kas siis tegude või sõnadega..
See on selline teema mida on väga raske ilmalikult ravida
ma enam kui veendunud, et see põhjus Maa väline,
Kuid jah... veelgi enam... MIKS oo miks te naised need mehed kaissu võtate, kes oma elu sedasi elanud, et need vaimud enda sisse lasknud kes teid sedasi kohtleb kas siis tegude või sõnadega..
14 October 2014 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on For Vladimir Putin's photo.
Austatud härra Putin. Soovin Teile tugevat tervist ja häid mõtteid tulevikuks. PALJU TERVITUSI EESTIMAALT, OLEME TEIEGA! Merle Kaljundi
7 October 2014 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on Lee Chin Jian's post.
Group: Only WAY
Thank You!
1. farmer
2. Abel
3. Enock
4. Cain
5. Garden
6. skins
6. Seth
7. serpent
8. Nod
9. cursed
10.Adam
11.shepperd
12.Eve
13. Fugitive27 September 2014 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
mis mottes, seened vist on ikka head, kuigi karmidesse kohtadesse viivad, reaalsete elupiltide ja vaneesti ajaloo juurde mida vast pole vaja maletada...
[eldi, et juba kustutati enamus, v.a .see mis vaja.. mis siiani olemas oli me enamuste peas
kuid noh.. mine tea mis k?rbseid need seened ajavad..
igatahes see on selge, et koike ei sobi mottesegi tuua mis meeltes, iga eksimuse paralt luukse uus p''stetee..kui me vaid teaks... me ei pea valima seda mida oleme sunnitud valima, vaid mida tahame teda valime
kyll ta ja naine siis paastab mis paasta annab
kuni lopuni heas mottes olla, proovida muuta kanalit kui suudad voi vaja siis kysi ja kuskilt ikka antakse, vahest suupihta ka
*(see vana lugu, et kysija voi kusja suu... sellel omad nyantsid sees, oleneb vajaduste arusaama suurusest
[eldi, et juba kustutati enamus, v.a .see mis vaja.. mis siiani olemas oli me enamuste peas
kuid noh.. mine tea mis k?rbseid need seened ajavad..
igatahes see on selge, et koike ei sobi mottesegi tuua mis meeltes, iga eksimuse paralt luukse uus p''stetee..kui me vaid teaks... me ei pea valima seda mida oleme sunnitud valima, vaid mida tahame teda valime
kyll ta ja naine siis paastab mis paasta annab
kuni lopuni heas mottes olla, proovida muuta kanalit kui suudad voi vaja siis kysi ja kuskilt ikka antakse, vahest suupihta ka
*(see vana lugu, et kysija voi kusja suu... sellel omad nyantsid sees, oleneb vajaduste arusaama suurusest
25 September 2014 00:08
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
pea auhinnaks sona otseses mottes vahest vist
25 September 2014 00:07
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
arent they peac eful
of
of
24 September 2014 23:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kui see arvuti jura *(loodame*
24 September 2014 23:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
vaimumaailmas kiiremaid vennaseid
24 September 2014 23:51
Margus Meigo commented on Web Summit's link.
where is the weed?
21 September 2014 22:07
Margus Meigo commented on Justin Gerald's post.
Group: Anti CON-DEM austerity political shite
not actually so funny ot consider one have to have job where ounc of mindless zomie minded loveless childs attack and care little if you die, for them actually,
if it would be the ones who DO not like you they would just act with you like Holodomor21 September 2014 20:41
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
strange when people them self cant figure that out that army has to say here.. and these tools ARE for human species study
NSA is still good, thought, on another level
NSA is still good, thought, on another level
21 September 2014 05:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I think, its kind of like therapy for people on-line, yeah there is a bit what religion outer core would not accept as best act but in whole.. it seems something that this planet needs,
from there next step would be even.. more healing orientated network around her.
All this simple but still girl play, this is the point where bi girl act comes in to full justification
makes me want to buy these networks as well, to
from there next step would be even.. more healing orientated network around her.
All this simple but still girl play, this is the point where bi girl act comes in to full justification
makes me want to buy these networks as well, to
21 September 2014 04:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I told you so!
and on her private profile She is amazing as well, all another level http://profiles.myfreecams.com/Blush_Biscuit
https://twitter.com/MissAlice93
http://kitty-kats.net/showthread.php?2195304-What-do-you-think-about-Blush_Biscuit-%28aka-Miss_Alice93%29-on-MFC
----
"Hello there friends, my name is Alice.
I'm a friendly, open minded young girl with lots of love to give. You guys always cheer me up and make me smile whenever I come online. =) "
"If you come into my room, I will usually be doing something musical, or teasing you with my feminine wiles. :D Hang around and enjoy the chilled vibe of my room. Every tip is appreciated with all my heart, and helps me towards my life goals like whoah.
Privates are like unicorns- awesome and rare. I only accept tru-privates, and they must be scheduled with me in advance. They are only available to trusted regulars. To become one of these treasured friends, treat me with respect, spend time talking with me and my members in my room, and help me with my goals from time to time."
Smoke: Non Smoker
Drink: Occasional
Drugs: Never
Marital Status: Single
Occupation/Major: Your mum
School: College
//aww, nice girls there.
Makes me thinking to go in to web erotic world again for a time, am personally
and on her private profile She is amazing as well, all another level http://profiles.myfreecams.com/Blush_Biscuit
https://twitter.com/MissAlice93
http://kitty-kats.net/showthread.php?2195304-What-do-you-think-about-Blush_Biscuit-%28aka-Miss_Alice93%29-on-MFC
----
"Hello there friends, my name is Alice.
I'm a friendly, open minded young girl with lots of love to give. You guys always cheer me up and make me smile whenever I come online. =) "
"If you come into my room, I will usually be doing something musical, or teasing you with my feminine wiles. :D Hang around and enjoy the chilled vibe of my room. Every tip is appreciated with all my heart, and helps me towards my life goals like whoah.
Privates are like unicorns- awesome and rare. I only accept tru-privates, and they must be scheduled with me in advance. They are only available to trusted regulars. To become one of these treasured friends, treat me with respect, spend time talking with me and my members in my room, and help me with my goals from time to time."
Smoke: Non Smoker
Drink: Occasional
Drugs: Never
Marital Status: Single
Occupation/Major: Your mum
School: College
//aww, nice girls there.
Makes me thinking to go in to web erotic world again for a time, am personally
21 September 2014 04:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
mine to
21 September 2014 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
või tegelt... me sallime isegi sallimatuid ju!
21 September 2014 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on John Turmel's link.
i have no hard feelings to think earth where most people live to be something not related to round
21 September 2014 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on John Turmel's link.
it must be all this fake snow that makes it so chilly :p
21 September 2014 02:34
Margus Meigo commented on John Turmel's link.
they are right, might be alien with combination of nature as well
21 September 2014 02:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
superb my brother, superb!
20 September 2014 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's link.
people really think people do all that, .. so strange, :D
..and idea, that we can have ANY other tool then religion to get free from that... its so below intelligence as well, that worth not to comment even
(but i still did, shows how clever i am.. not much )
..and idea, that we can have ANY other tool then religion to get free from that... its so below intelligence as well, that worth not to comment even
(but i still did, shows how clever i am.. not much )
20 September 2014 21:37
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's link.
its public knowledge that soviets was able to predict group future 10, 30 years to future long time ago, and among people who was by far more advanced about life knowledge then most nations today.
20 September 2014 21:35
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's link.
"so fun hour, lets talk about how everyone is under mind control"
what cam i say...
Great day!
what cam i say...
Great day!
20 September 2014 21:31
Margus Meigo commented on Tia Carr's link.
What else mac will do to will publicity ..
or does really, there is man, so stupid ?
"His wife Joanna called an end to the 20 year marriage after she accused him of valuing material possessions over his family."
so HE gets her a iPhone, with public stunt top of that..
Well, respect i guess
or does really, there is man, so stupid ?
"His wife Joanna called an end to the 20 year marriage after she accused him of valuing material possessions over his family."
so HE gets her a iPhone, with public stunt top of that..
Well, respect i guess
20 September 2014 21:29
Margus Meigo commented on Alexandr Podobnyh's photo.
take shoes off! :p
20 September 2014 21:22
Margus Meigo commented on Ergo Katus's post.
For real : )
20 September 2014 21:14
Margus Meigo commented on John Turmel's link.
multiple parallel world theory would fit rather in to picture that world is as well flat, as the roundness is our mind that shapes imagination of space around us so
20 September 2014 04:28
Margus Meigo commented on John Turmel's link.
there was so good movie about Flat Earth
but they forced me to take it down from youtube and vimeo..
it was genius cartoon,
but they forced me to take it down from youtube and vimeo..
it was genius cartoon,
20 September 2014 04:26
Margus Meigo commented on Zandra Arguelles's photo.
Is that your class?
20 September 2014 04:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi religioon on sallimatus sallimatuse vastu aint, kuid see selleks .)
19 September 2014 21:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
ei miskit eri teksti ega miskit veel, kuid midagi lihtsat
18 September 2014 22:17
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
some reefer is always good
18 September 2014 06:41
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's link.
need ilma tehnoloogid oma ilma manipulatsiooni testidega..
18 September 2014 06:40
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
Looks really really nice!
18 September 2014 06:39
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
great feast!
18 September 2014 06:38
Margus Meigo commented on Cressamia Impas's life event.
Always Cressamia
/(this is amazing name as well you have! )
/(this is amazing name as well you have! )
18 September 2014 03:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
18 September 2014 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
and its a bit same as http://my.mail.ru/my/welcome using,, its pretty nice, and the dating and email system that Ru has, is also near the best i have seen
http://my.mail.ru/my/welcome
18 September 2014 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Also good posts relating to topic:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Kennedyturnerux/posts
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Kennedyturnerux/posts
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Kennedyturnerux/posts
17 September 2014 23:58
Margus Meigo commented on Cressamia Impas's life event.
All the best from Estonia !
Keep bible near and husband in lines with commandments :)
Keep bible near and husband in lines with commandments :)
17 September 2014 22:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
talk about their job
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QO-2olF9M4
if i will not take this great job with these awesome people, please you do :)
(you can clearly see they are not influenced by five star .. jet, but soon the line between robotic money making and innovating for human species is blurred as even the dry money makers will get smart enough to hire actual people and do as these people tell them to do.. )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QO-2olF9M4
if i will not take this great job with these awesome people, please you do :)
(you can clearly see they are not influenced by five star .. jet, but soon the line between robotic money making and innovating for human species is blurred as even the dry money makers will get smart enough to hire actual people and do as these people tell them to do.. )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QO-2olF9M4
17 September 2014 18:59
Margus Meigo commented on Barack Obama's photo.
baby is a bit .. "WHOh who is that"
16 September 2014 21:14
Margus Meigo commented on Barack Obama's photo.
looks like Mr. Bean a bit :)
16 September 2014 21:13
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Pannett's post.
Group: Linux Friends
one way of earning money is hacking
Q: I'm a security expert and I think your protocol is not secure.
You are welcome to join in our competition — Pavel Durov is offering $200,000 in BTC to the first person to break MTProto. Check out the announcement and Contest FAQ.
If you have other comments, we would be happy to hear them at security@telegram.org.
https://core.telegram.org/techfaq
This is about more then 95 Million dollars, that is almost 4 times the amount the US Government offered for Bin Laden..
(i think they meant 200, right?)https://core.telegram.org/techfaq
16 September 2014 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on Christopher Penczak Author & Teacher's link.
i was first lookin like this huys hand is gun ike and statement is "Pagan Eliminational Coalition " or something like that....
these shrooms, but thiis true... pagans have to convert throught nature if wished is omething other then all the bee troids and robocomp inspectoes to investigate them if and how pagan are they, this is only thing i can imagine that will save a day when sun is blocked
these shrooms, but thiis true... pagans have to convert throught nature if wished is omething other then all the bee troids and robocomp inspectoes to investigate them if and how pagan are they, this is only thing i can imagine that will save a day when sun is blocked
15 September 2014 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on Maverick John Viator's post.
You blessed them so to speak.. perhaps i will be some day, between Her hands :)
15 September 2014 22:51
Margus Meigo commented on Maverick John Viator's post.
can you imagine we need scientist for that
15 September 2014 18:30
Margus Meigo commented on Maverick John Viator's post.
maybe yes?
15 September 2014 18:29
Margus Meigo commented on Maverick John Viator's post.
AND is willing to heal these weaknesses (you know, like smoking, TV addiction, materialism...) ...as these are obsicles to have equaly highest soul union
15 September 2014 18:28
Margus Meigo commented on Maverick John Viator's post.
fault is that by not knowing whole truth we might think we do
15 September 2014 18:26
Margus Meigo commented on Maverick John Viator's post.
and more often it takes silence to apriciate sielece . ))
15 September 2014 18:24
Margus Meigo commented on Энтони Рамки's photo.
his is strange one indeed
15 September 2014 18:13
Margus Meigo commented on Maverick John Viator's photo.
aret they a bit owerloaded with symbols and no plants and mushrooms for chist mind?
15 September 2014 18:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
kas Sul audio mängib siin? Mul kuidagi vaikus..
15 September 2014 07:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Key, see toimib hästi kuid neil pikkuse limiit 10ne minuti peale.. et see teine teenus yourlissen toimib täis pikkuses aga ei mängi audiot.. hmm.. häda selle internetiga :D
15 September 2014 07:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
jeerum mille kõigega ma nõustma pidin, et isegi neid mõtlema panna, et see copiright teema neil veider, iga selle ette pidin eraldi linnukesepanema:
"
*I have a good faith belief that the above material has been removed or disabled as the result of a mistake or misidentification of this material to be removed. *
*I understand that SoundCloud may suspend or terminate my account if I knowingly misrepresent my rights in this material, and I may also be liable for damages (including costs and attorney’s fees) incurred by SoundCloud, the copyright owner or any authorized licensee. *
*I will accept service of process from the rights holder making the allegations of infringement or an authorized agent of such person. *
*I consent to the federal courts in the judicial district where I live (if you live in the United States), or I consent to the jurisdiction of any court or judicial district in which any SoundCloud company is located (if you live outside the United States). *
*I understand that SoundCloud will share my contact information with the party making the allegations of infringement. *
*I acknowledge that, except where SoundCloud is obliged by applicable law to publish or re-publish my material on receipt of a valid counter-notice, SoundCloud may decide at its discretion whether or not to publish or re-publish the material I uploaded. *
*If SoundCloud publishes or re-publishes any material following receipt of this notice, I hereby agree to indemnify and shall keep fully and effectively indemnified SoundCloud Limited, and its shareholders, directors, employees and affiliates from and against any and all claims, costs, expenses, losses, liabilities and damages arising from any actual or alleged violation of any third party rights as the result of any material I have uploaded being made available on SoundCloud. *
"
nagu nad ise tahaks limiteerida oma läbi tulnud loomingut
Tule Taevas Appi..
"
*I have a good faith belief that the above material has been removed or disabled as the result of a mistake or misidentification of this material to be removed. *
*I understand that SoundCloud may suspend or terminate my account if I knowingly misrepresent my rights in this material, and I may also be liable for damages (including costs and attorney’s fees) incurred by SoundCloud, the copyright owner or any authorized licensee. *
*I will accept service of process from the rights holder making the allegations of infringement or an authorized agent of such person. *
*I consent to the federal courts in the judicial district where I live (if you live in the United States), or I consent to the jurisdiction of any court or judicial district in which any SoundCloud company is located (if you live outside the United States). *
*I understand that SoundCloud will share my contact information with the party making the allegations of infringement. *
*I acknowledge that, except where SoundCloud is obliged by applicable law to publish or re-publish my material on receipt of a valid counter-notice, SoundCloud may decide at its discretion whether or not to publish or re-publish the material I uploaded. *
*If SoundCloud publishes or re-publishes any material following receipt of this notice, I hereby agree to indemnify and shall keep fully and effectively indemnified SoundCloud Limited, and its shareholders, directors, employees and affiliates from and against any and all claims, costs, expenses, losses, liabilities and damages arising from any actual or alleged violation of any third party rights as the result of any material I have uploaded being made available on SoundCloud. *
"
nagu nad ise tahaks limiteerida oma läbi tulnud loomingut
Tule Taevas Appi..
15 September 2014 06:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ah this buttholes
"Our automatic content protection system has detected that your track, "Vaimulik motisklus 2013.01.25",
may contain copyright protected content and we've blocked it from being published on your profile."
"Our automatic content protection system has detected that your track, "Vaimulik motisklus 2013.01.25",
may contain copyright protected content and we've blocked it from being published on your profile."
15 September 2014 06:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Also.. (2:22:22 ..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BqUlZaW8rd4#t=4757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BqUlZaW8rd4#t=4757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BqUlZaW8rd4#t=4757
15 September 2014 05:08
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
hahha
so how it went down ?15 September 2014 04:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
I must say i really do like this,
even if it was google computer who made it but i doubt it was.. it :)15 September 2014 04:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
This is meaningful really for people in inner crew, rest of the 800 people in here will probabaly think: "who are these.."
and pictures choosen really totally independent of me..
just spirits on play!
Well, Cody Wilson is some one of these pictures from few names you know.. but personally i think rest of the people are even more awesame, even tho there is no competitition to be good you know .)
https://www.ted.com/talks/skylar_tibbits_the_emergence_of_4d_printing?language=enhttps://www.ted.com/talks/skylar_tibbits_the_emergence_of_4d_printing?language=en
15 September 2014 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
am cant contradict my self, its outside my nature : )
(not a big effort at all, really)
(not a big effort at all, really)
15 September 2014 02:17
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
just the maybe part...
makes us wander
makes us wander
14 September 2014 21:09
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Pannett's post.
Group: Linux Friends
well, it was already pretty slack to me14 September 2014 21:06
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
i would eat of her for sure, not a fish tho... am vegatarian.. actually.. am middle of soeone...
13 September 2014 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's link.
akti akti Kati sa oled AMMMU unistuses...
Sul enda silmis tundub lihtsalt, et veel midagi püüda
Ammu musliklis, väga musklis
Sul enda silmis tundub lihtsalt, et veel midagi püüda
Ammu musliklis, väga musklis
13 September 2014 23:34
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
yea thats way to call ban on naked food... do it NAKED
Amen...
Amen...
13 September 2014 23:33
Margus Meigo commented on Wolf Candy's post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
amem, true13 September 2014 23:32
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
tegelt enne ka ilus
13 September 2014 23:30
Margus Meigo commented on Dante Rocero Bernardino's post.
true
13 September 2014 02:06
Margus Meigo commented on Jewel Datta's post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
Yes
Jehovah is the name
to agree on
(look the translations that kept the original name)
and you see Jesus told there is MANY abowe him..
or at least yo see He syas that Himself is NOT the highest one.
And by simple logic we should remeber that most higgest can posses anyones body as we wish but we are not the final mirror of that who possesses us.
Even if its Jehovah from wilderness.
There is reason why HE is called "the child" or "the san"
as he is not the father. Who we should know. The words Jesus spoke we need but to belive in Jehovah (called by some other names from egypt to islam... lets hope) .. this is really important simple thing people need to accept.
in side Jesus was a God, was a Jehovah, .. lets hope nad still is.
But Jehovah can make many Gods... he is the master of All Gods,
Just keep in mind..
He is forgiving you that you worshipped and make idol of Jesus, of hes sun.. but she also needs our real heart at that we will not reject her this time, even if it is for the sake of Jesus.. as you can not know jesus.. if you reject the Lorg God of All Creation
Seriously,
How can you
become one with all the other people if you only belive fraction of what Jesus told13 September 2014 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Zabierek Jr.'s post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
different people get possessed different way13 September 2014 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Zabierek Jr.'s post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
YOu really do see islam as only worry then you are knd of right, its one of the last power christans have to forgive to surrender proper and to survive13 September 2014 01:34
Margus Meigo commented on Sadia Afroz Tinni's post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
please remove if not related13 September 2014 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on Sadia Afroz Tinni's post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
how is that related to here?13 September 2014 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Zabierek Jr.'s post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
why ould you postthis here, please delete your post.
with picures in mind people can get possessed13 September 2014 01:23
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Zabierek Jr.'s post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
can you imagine, amount of dark possession on these streets... ,13 September 2014 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Zabierek Jr.'s post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
From where is this pictures13 September 2014 01:19
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Zabierek Jr.'s post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
There is reason why you got on here less then 10 comments from others.. and most are from me... and other posts get hundreds on group of 420 000+ members...13 September 2014 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Zabierek Jr.'s post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
and the main problem that religious people have with religion dectrines with others.. is also justified as long we argue13 September 2014 01:14
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Zabierek Jr.'s post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
the main issues that people have with religion is justified13 September 2014 01:13
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Zabierek Jr.'s post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
we need to forgive, so they can see true walue on the quaran that is a lot based on bible directly, so it wouöld be easy to connect for us.. they even tell inside there to lissten and respect scripture people, if i remeber right
but most of all.. know Bible well.. and put it on practise with Koran as one of your firends.. who is made sibiling... like mormons... like catolics... like ortodox... like methodists... like many 12 fmilis of jews.. like nazarites... so many of us we need to unite, as there is no argument between usa really.. on the main topic.. the rest of it we need to clamly talk it out behind a curtain if needed... as there is whole world of people.. who have epic experiences of cosmic avareness and who just know lot of science.. that have black hole where is religion in a heart.. so this is where the worry is really.. we should focus on there...
Ilsma have so much of knowledge... besides their number system we use... what they can share and explain us... on this strugkle... to realize.. that someone is toyng with us to...
but at least if you know focus.. and this is your Wife in trust of Jehovah and hes Sun ...13 September 2014 01:12
Margus Meigo commented on Robert Zabierek Jr.'s post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
actually islam protect woem nas well,. there is wrttings in there that have to be forgiven
mostly there is wrttings there that get people in to beliving somethng that is needed to protect them
even if some posessions are occuring.. i can not say for sure i feel more safe around oridinary main stream popular church before 21 century..
in England for example, they have SHOPS inside main churces... can you imagine..
and when i give notice in main mosque that they have money exchange flyers disguised as religious ones .. they removed all of them on command, next moment
would main churces of england also remove all the shops, turism gadgets and buisiness iniside, on simple command like that?13 September 2014 01:06
Margus Meigo commented on Wolf Candy's post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
amen, take easy with that topic13 September 2014 00:33
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's post.
amazing is how butterfly is coming to the world & snails life, for starters.
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also some way amazing is why people join in millitary - in All countryes....
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also some way amazing is why people join in millitary - in All countryes....
13 September 2014 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's post.
njeah.. paneme tapamasinaid inimesi imetlema ja ette kujutama, et nad on lahedad... .
isegi kui nad ei oleks tulistamis võimelised siis see lennuk suht kasutut tänapäeva tehnoloogia juures
isegi kui nad ei oleks tulistamis võimelised siis see lennuk suht kasutut tänapäeva tehnoloogia juures
13 September 2014 00:07
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek Saviir's post.
kuid reaalselt nagu, olin mauritaanais jne, olukord ongi selline osades kohtades...
Nagu kujutad ette,. vett saab kalli raha eest ainult ?
Nagu kujutad ette,. vett saab kalli raha eest ainult ?
13 September 2014 00:04
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek Saviir's post.
näh,. krdi ahff higistas rohkem maha kui tootis
miinus 2
esimeses videos
miinus 2
esimeses videos
13 September 2014 00:02
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
nu kui häsyti maksad siis kutsu marko :D
http://www.monta.ee/Kontakt/
http://www.monta.ee/Kontakt/
http://www.monta.ee/Kontakt/
12 September 2014 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
but astill ... many of the thinbgs we doo.. limit some other porpotions we can .. was able to do.. in that time...
this is the reason there is rules
and ... common sense (to ower look rules)
..and alcohol & drugs friends if last 2 did not work :D
this is the reason there is rules
and ... common sense (to ower look rules)
..and alcohol & drugs friends if last 2 did not work :D
12 September 2014 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
for real
12 September 2014 23:45
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
and prefebaly female cookie
12 September 2014 23:42
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
just perfect
12 September 2014 23:15
Margus Meigo commented on Ai Re's photo.
mõtlen, et tegelt ikka kurb, et hiirte surma suhtutakse teistmoodi kui muude loomade, eriti inimeste
11 September 2014 16:48
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Hirsivaara's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Kalle, ära nüüd rohkem küll sellist viga tee, et Risti usu vastalisi ja Ristiuslisi ühte patta paned. Ristiusulistel niigi raske, sest neid seostatakse enamasti normannide ja roomlaste järel toodanguga11 September 2014 13:20
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Hirsivaara's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Node kirikus testil käies sain ligi ajakirjale kus nad kuulutasid nende õnsust, sest "Uus Tehnologia Ajasu 2" ("Faas 2") on saabunud.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q3pyu52ponw478t/AACvK29SyNDsEI_boY6de_q_a?dl=2#/ siin albumis, selles "converted" albumis võiksema formaadiga. kuid õiget pidi. Soovital arvutisse laadida kogu kaust või siis "show original" link valida iga pildi juures, muidu eriti lugeda ei näe...
Ega nad algul mind selle ajakirja ligi ei tahtnud lasta, ütlesid, et see liikemtele ainult... noh, sian ikka :p
Kristel - meie kõvade tükkide ajupesuks meil siin ka vastavad targad üle piiri kes meid piisavalt pestnud, et osa Eestlasi päriselt usubki, et USA, EU ja Vene on erinevate agendadega. Viisnurk on viisnurk..https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q3pyu52ponw478t/AACvK29SyNDsEI_boY6de_q_a?dl=2#/
11 September 2014 13:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Conclusions: You have picked intelligent, proper Russia friends and Shallow US and European ones :p (can forgive to Ukraine as they are actually, to be honest, on interest of being invaded...)
11 September 2014 12:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
In Russia, Serbia etc people are tricked to imagine as people outside their borders would care and think about Russia, a lot, as some threat or big topic to talk about. (bdw, BBC is Red, not serving what we want to think and talk about here)
In reality many TV shows, farm animals and foods get more attention and talk daily, only reason Russia is coming up as topic because there is not a lot others to talk about as they are to much of a different. Also other exotic governments invest just so little in to our information space.
In last month, perhaps with less then 10 people Russia has become up as topic (not as often as every few days..) and in total less then half of hour of talk i would say. There is not just a lot to talk about this country in here that we do not know, even on the heat of Ukraine most of people are kind of like "well, its Russia.. what there is to get excited about" and will get to the next topic about something that matters "as long they not here..".
We so cold here we even look war as politics like "oh well, what can you do" :D
There is new group of people produced who seem not to be connected with past.. and they also have no interest of the past values, these are the ones we worry about and they are really same for us if they live in Russia or in some other similar system like States or Union.
We talk about "them" a lot and contribute most fails of humans society on "them"
the point is that they are new age production, not religiously or nature wise connected.. so they can be persuaded so easily to do whatever, in SO many ways "for greater good" as they have no heart connection to the parents... and if they are immature ways emotional in top of that.. then yes, it is a bit more problematic, but no less dangerous then really cold heart*d intellectuals, who we produce here loads, they are worrisome in another level.
In reality many TV shows, farm animals and foods get more attention and talk daily, only reason Russia is coming up as topic because there is not a lot others to talk about as they are to much of a different. Also other exotic governments invest just so little in to our information space.
In last month, perhaps with less then 10 people Russia has become up as topic (not as often as every few days..) and in total less then half of hour of talk i would say. There is not just a lot to talk about this country in here that we do not know, even on the heat of Ukraine most of people are kind of like "well, its Russia.. what there is to get excited about" and will get to the next topic about something that matters "as long they not here..".
We so cold here we even look war as politics like "oh well, what can you do" :D
There is new group of people produced who seem not to be connected with past.. and they also have no interest of the past values, these are the ones we worry about and they are really same for us if they live in Russia or in some other similar system like States or Union.
We talk about "them" a lot and contribute most fails of humans society on "them"
the point is that they are new age production, not religiously or nature wise connected.. so they can be persuaded so easily to do whatever, in SO many ways "for greater good" as they have no heart connection to the parents... and if they are immature ways emotional in top of that.. then yes, it is a bit more problematic, but no less dangerous then really cold heart*d intellectuals, who we produce here loads, they are worrisome in another level.
11 September 2014 12:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
We just care little about what they serve in terms of showing it emotionally. Europe keep in mind is mature emotionally, specially this part of old wise land, we KNOW we was invaded before 11th century so we make no disillusioned rebel protests as what is the point before people around the borders realize its not between the people...
11 September 2014 12:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Well, Anna Devyatykh at least we are on the same side, and this side is neither The Federation, Union or United five stars separately from the shamanic, religious or peasant desires that's for sure ...
But their side is yours. As under women, they all must surrender, with no hesitation
But their side is yours. As under women, they all must surrender, with no hesitation
11 September 2014 11:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Voice of European Parliament answers:
"The only difference between people in Russia and Europe five star system is that in Europe branch we do not realize that humans in some part of world actually believe us to care about news. "
I know i get your attention some how sweet you!
"The only difference between people in Russia and Europe five star system is that in Europe branch we do not realize that humans in some part of world actually believe us to care about news. "
I know i get your attention some how sweet you!
11 September 2014 11:40
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Hirsivaara's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Asi on selles, et nende hullus põhineb päris jõududel kes pole maised,
kõik keda näost näkku näinud ja mees soost, võin üelda kindlalt, et väga tugevalt muu vaim sees, väga tume värk (võib tunduda väga meeldiv esialgu kes maist kontakti otsib inimeses)
googledage youtubist "german Scientology" siis mingi esitlus peaks tulema ex liikmete poolt, kes räägivad asjast lähemalt, nende esitlus oli plaanitud kui hoiatus saksa riigile otseselt.
Kuigi nad ainult maistest asjadest räägivad, siis juba seegi piisavalt tõsine peaks inimeste jaoks olema.11 September 2014 11:23
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Hirsivaara's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Need on väga võimsad tegelased, kurjuse viisnurga üks eliite siin planeedil.
Neil isegi USA sõjaväega oli kunagi project Kuu Lapse sünniks, et nagu läbi meditatsiooni ja sex maagia anda sünd uuele teadvusele.
Kuid lisaks sellele omavad nad pea täieliku võimu meedia nende osade ja tehnoloogiate üle mida vaja ja panevad venemaal ka mokad kinni kui vaja (sest noh, see jõukoridor, viisnurk, neil ja vene vallutatud jõududel sama, ... )11 September 2014 11:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
woman related how Ukrainian nationalists had crucified a child in the eastern Ukrainian city of Sloviansk. When Alexei Volin, Russia’s deputy minister of communications, was confronted with the fact that the crucifixion story was a fabrication, he showed no embarrassment, instead suggesting that all that mattered were ratings. “The public likes how our main TV channels present material, the tone of our programs,” he said. “The share of viewers for news programs on Russian TV has doubled over the last two months.”
11 September 2014 11:01
Margus Meigo commented on David Dickson's post.
Group: Linux Friends
this was mad man :D
i almost in rage clikced on "where is report the spam button"
(as color coding is so much of it.. nailed it)
while looking it i was investigating the content of ad closer and discovered the penguin.. who.. and Linux written on the bottle.. then got it :D11 September 2014 07:14
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Pannett's post.
Group: Linux Friends
_
some say he is real
to the core
some say he is barely
can use GNU
(user interface)
what is true?11 September 2014 05:26
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Pannett's post.
11 September 2014 05:25
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Pannett's post.
11 September 2014 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Pannett's post.
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_11 September 2014 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Pannett's post.
Group: Linux Friends
newer11 September 2014 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
vanu parimaid aegu!
10 September 2014 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
well was coing from hull when coming from ...statrtng frm amsterdam...
10 September 2014 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Elly, when their periods will sync then the monarchy will finally arrive again as it should and then there is no need to kill no one. The ones who does not need to be reproduced will go off from gene pool natural ways,
10 September 2014 06:31
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Last's post.
siin jah, päris võimsalt, kahju lausa hakkas mormoni poistest kuid eks selline käitumine treenib neid ka. Kahjum veel mustadest, et üle võlli panid.
Nad oleks pidanud pigem hängima nendega ja maha istumise väljakutse vastu võtma.
Sellise vaimu vastu minna need lipsuga poisid ilmselgelt alahindasid olukorda, nendega eriti võitu ei ole, ega ei peaks soovima ka.
Suurem osa mulle tundunud pole niivõrd vaimus õppijad vaid positsiooni kaitsjad ning kui oskad õigeid lauseid tuua piiblist õigel ajal siis need hullemad kui kosmiline matakas ribide vahele (sest mormonid tegelt väga sügavalt õppinud piibli lauseid ka ja nad iga tava inimese jaoks tunduva piibli lause taga olevaid seostusi ja ajalugu teavad... seega nad ei saa lihtsalt ühe silbiga vastu pead vaid tervete ajastute ja süütunnete kuhjaga... sest nad väga muretsevad kui nad eksivad... see pärisusklikutele hullem kui päris peks, väga palju raskem)
Kuigi, mormonitel on ka üldiselt õigus oma autimsi laadses mooduses,
ise ka nendega hängitud sai https://plus.google.com/photos/102871056968914830739/albums/5958799156216600721/5958802253149626322?pid=5958802253149626322&oid=102871056968914830739
Nad oleks pidanud pigem hängima nendega ja maha istumise väljakutse vastu võtma.
Sellise vaimu vastu minna need lipsuga poisid ilmselgelt alahindasid olukorda, nendega eriti võitu ei ole, ega ei peaks soovima ka.
Suurem osa mulle tundunud pole niivõrd vaimus õppijad vaid positsiooni kaitsjad ning kui oskad õigeid lauseid tuua piiblist õigel ajal siis need hullemad kui kosmiline matakas ribide vahele (sest mormonid tegelt väga sügavalt õppinud piibli lauseid ka ja nad iga tava inimese jaoks tunduva piibli lause taga olevaid seostusi ja ajalugu teavad... seega nad ei saa lihtsalt ühe silbiga vastu pead vaid tervete ajastute ja süütunnete kuhjaga... sest nad väga muretsevad kui nad eksivad... see pärisusklikutele hullem kui päris peks, väga palju raskem)
Kuigi, mormonitel on ka üldiselt õigus oma autimsi laadses mooduses,
ise ka nendega hängitud sai https://plus.google.com/photos/102871056968914830739/albums/5958799156216600721/5958802253149626322?pid=5958802253149626322&oid=102871056968914830739
https://plus.google.com/photos/102871056968914830739/albums/5958799156216600721/5958802253149626322?pid=5958802253149626322&oid=102871056968914830739
10 September 2014 02:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Last's link.
ma sellel saarel üle 3me aasta elasin kust need pommid neile viidi...
10 September 2014 01:43
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Last's post.
no one wet home...
10 September 2014 01:42
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Last's post.
Meil perega jospli ja muude lauamängude mängimise ajad ikka ühed parimad olid (eks on veel)
10 September 2014 01:42
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Last's photo.
See Pauline naelutas ja võttis sellel teemal arutavate inimeste jutu hästi kokku, poleks osanutki paremini ja väga palju kordi samamoodi varem tunnetanud, et inimesed ei ole arengust maas... aga nagu ei sobi eeldada ka, et pahast vaimust vaevatud kohe jäädavalt...
kuid näe.. nagu nad ei oskaks aru saada, mida ja kuhu saab ligi pääseda erinevate liikidega jamades..
Võtke paar kolm toosi LSDd ja seeni... ja siis ühendage see mida tunnetasite ära KGB psyholoogiliste ja ameerika arvuti teadusega... ning no jah... siis sutsu võib juba looma hakata, tegelt ainuüksi selle sõnumi lugemine.. ja node ainete suuremas koguses tarbimine toob Sulle suht konkreetseid tulemusi...
muidugi soovitan alati, ema, naist või vähemalt piiblit käepärast hoida kui liiga sügavale lähete... ükski meist pole liiga mees, et kõigele sellele vastu panna üksi mida nad teha saavad...
kuid näe.. nagu nad ei oskaks aru saada, mida ja kuhu saab ligi pääseda erinevate liikidega jamades..
Võtke paar kolm toosi LSDd ja seeni... ja siis ühendage see mida tunnetasite ära KGB psyholoogiliste ja ameerika arvuti teadusega... ning no jah... siis sutsu võib juba looma hakata, tegelt ainuüksi selle sõnumi lugemine.. ja node ainete suuremas koguses tarbimine toob Sulle suht konkreetseid tulemusi...
muidugi soovitan alati, ema, naist või vähemalt piiblit käepärast hoida kui liiga sügavale lähete... ükski meist pole liiga mees, et kõigele sellele vastu panna üksi mida nad teha saavad...
10 September 2014 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Last's post.
tyson on küll muidu suht populist jah : )
10 September 2014 01:34
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Last's post.
true true
10 September 2014 01:33
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Last's post.
Vot seda ma kutsun juba heaks naljaks!
10 September 2014 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Last's post.
xD (Y)
10 September 2014 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Last's post.
jeerum :D
10 September 2014 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Last's link.
peaasi, et molli ei antud
10 September 2014 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Last's post.
jah, seda piibel ju ammu üelnud... et ei tohi mehele alluda..
(kuid kuningatest isegi pahasti ei tohi mõelda, sest lind saab sinu mõtte viia kuningakojani... need suts teised tehnoloogijad, arenenumad kui Twitter ..)
(kuid kuningatest isegi pahasti ei tohi mõelda, sest lind saab sinu mõtte viia kuningakojani... need suts teised tehnoloogijad, arenenumad kui Twitter ..)
10 September 2014 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Last's post.
reaaly :p
10 September 2014 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Last's link.
inimestel lähens nii palju lihtsamalt asjadest arusaamine, kui nad hakkaksid aru saama... et ju siin vist ikka ainult inimnahas ja vaimus sellel planeedil asju ei juhita...
keegi pole nagu viitsinud kokku panna ka Roomlasi, Normanne... mis moodi nad prantsuse läbi inglismaa võtsid... venemaa tegid... ristusõdalaste rüüs ülejäänud mandri vallutasid... eks neil olid ka kõvad vaimud sees, ei saa kurta :)
koraani värss sin selgitab asja...
"neil oli meiega plaan... kuid meil oli nende plaaniga plaan.."
et nagu miks usulised lasid sinnamaani ennast viia... lisaks sellele, et nad seda väärisid kah vist
keegi pole nagu viitsinud kokku panna ka Roomlasi, Normanne... mis moodi nad prantsuse läbi inglismaa võtsid... venemaa tegid... ristusõdalaste rüüs ülejäänud mandri vallutasid... eks neil olid ka kõvad vaimud sees, ei saa kurta :)
koraani värss sin selgitab asja...
"neil oli meiega plaan... kuid meil oli nende plaaniga plaan.."
et nagu miks usulised lasid sinnamaani ennast viia... lisaks sellele, et nad seda väärisid kah vist
10 September 2014 01:23
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Last's post.
sellest arusaamine on lähim tee orjusest vabanemise poole astumiseks kulla mees
Mu arus tundub nii utoopiline, et inimesed kujutavad ette, et neil on lubatud mõelda mida iganes nad soovivad.
Mu arus tundub nii utoopiline, et inimesed kujutavad ette, et neil on lubatud mõelda mida iganes nad soovivad.
10 September 2014 01:16
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Last's post.
Mõelda vaid Ragnar... nii lihtsast ja ilusast juhisest ka ei saanud inimesed aru
Selle asemel hakkasime teistele maju ehitama ja ise võõras majas elama, rohuaedasi ei istutata, et loodusega kontaktis olla, oma tytarde ja poegade partnerite - nende elu kõige olulisema sihi pärast, vanemad enam ei muretse ... ning lapse saamise asemel räägitakse, et peaks vähendama hakkama, et juba liialt palju maailmas... ning rohu viljade asemel hakati sööma liha (mille osas pidi eraldi seaduse muudatuse tegema, et inimsöömist vähendada looma söömise suunale, sest oma liigi söömine hävitab kiiremini kui nende loomade söömine kes ennast olid nõus loovutama inimesele söögiks, kõik ei olnud ka ja nende loomade ja putukate kohta kirjeldus mida ei sobi süüa)
Selle asemel hakkasime teistele maju ehitama ja ise võõras majas elama, rohuaedasi ei istutata, et loodusega kontaktis olla, oma tytarde ja poegade partnerite - nende elu kõige olulisema sihi pärast, vanemad enam ei muretse ... ning lapse saamise asemel räägitakse, et peaks vähendama hakkama, et juba liialt palju maailmas... ning rohu viljade asemel hakati sööma liha (mille osas pidi eraldi seaduse muudatuse tegema, et inimsöömist vähendada looma söömise suunale, sest oma liigi söömine hävitab kiiremini kui nende loomade söömine kes ennast olid nõus loovutama inimesele söögiks, kõik ei olnud ka ja nende loomade ja putukate kohta kirjeldus mida ei sobi süüa)
10 September 2014 01:08
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Last's post.
ma võtaks veel kaugemale, kes viimasena ellu jääb võidab : )
..ei see pole ka tegelt pisavalt kauge..
kes..
..ei see pole ka tegelt pisavalt kauge..
kes..
10 September 2014 01:08
Margus Meigo commented on Kalle Last's post.
Jah, veel parem küsimus on kuidas Kain omale naise sai..
10 September 2014 01:06
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's link.
Robert one is game that human species do not need and where being hurt and force your power over others is NORM.
Other is man being retarded for hitting women, also a women who he slept with ?? So he actually KNOW for sure that She was a women... what makes it even ten folds worst. Should be locked up and get some heavy dosage psychedelic treatment ( LSD and from there mushrooms.. and entogiens ) .. while with woman.. so he would feel and Know inside soul what he did, words are not enough to express this wrong if you already do not see this.
Do you think this game helps human mental and spiritual development more then most ohter activities ? .. so much more that we need to spend so much resources on it ?
Other is man being retarded for hitting women, also a women who he slept with ?? So he actually KNOW for sure that She was a women... what makes it even ten folds worst. Should be locked up and get some heavy dosage psychedelic treatment ( LSD and from there mushrooms.. and entogiens ) .. while with woman.. so he would feel and Know inside soul what he did, words are not enough to express this wrong if you already do not see this.
Do you think this game helps human mental and spiritual development more then most ohter activities ? .. so much more that we need to spend so much resources on it ?
10 September 2014 00:33
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
as we do not need so low level human species in our planet who can not see naked body withe out starting to hump it, forcefully.
these are just genetically messed up products that have no value that this race needs, so they should be eliminated with no further notice, actualy
these are just genetically messed up products that have no value that this race needs, so they should be eliminated with no further notice, actualy
10 September 2014 00:27
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Elly but you do agree that these peole should be shoot to the head on spot who would think actually to rape these womens in a way they would not like ?
10 September 2014 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's link.
i had to make screen shoot of that talk in here as its abowe the top, can send it to other normal people to read, they would have hard to belive, that anyone would talk about these matters like that.
Death penalty would be propriate in many parts of world for this kind of action
Death penalty would be propriate in many parts of world for this kind of action
10 September 2014 00:05
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's link.
I would really not cry at all if anyone who thinks that He had Any right to punch at her would be locked away to lunatic house,
how did we end up in the world where even speaking about that like this is allowed?
how did we end up in the world where even speaking about that like this is allowed?
10 September 2014 00:00
Margus Meigo replied to Ferris Esposito's comment.
this is about the best explenation i have heart for long time that will explain most of all conspiracy and actions of human groups throught history.
basically we can unplug the internet now
basically we can unplug the internet now
9 September 2014 19:38
Margus Meigo commented on Maikeni Ehted's photo.
Nii lahedalt, jutt ja ehete kuju, kuidas süda ja haarav ( aaa ma ei saa sõnadesse panna :D ... et ehted on nagu lennus.. Viuhti ... j siis sõna haarab läheb kokku.. ja siis süda.. aa nii äge, see polegi vist mõeldud seletamiseks :D )
9 September 2014 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
MIs ennast ära peitsid :D
9 September 2014 01:53
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
Võrdväärse naisepere oma ümber leidnud :)
9 September 2014 01:52
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Juhkam's photo.
this is something new : ))
7 September 2014 06:51
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
yes i am Jorge... yes i am... but to little :(
perhaps will give some result also sometimes
perhaps will give some result also sometimes
7 September 2014 05:32
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
and its true as well, you know
actually
actually
7 September 2014 05:29
Margus Meigo commented on Lii Harakas's post.
Group: Loodusesõbrad
kuid miski suitseva kadaka abil rahustada või kärbseseene söömise läbi ussi sõnu rääkides .. ehk saaks kontakti ja rahulikuks.. ja siis ajaks kotti (nu see mure ühe teise rästikuga meil kes puuriida vahel..)
Lihula ligidal pidi üks kool olema kus lapsed sadade rästikutega mängivad... neil vaja õppida vast midagi..6 September 2014 22:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Estonia's culture of intolerance - Eesti talu kultuur
Tahtsin küsida, kes siin administraator on ja siis märkasin, et siiin neid lausa 200 :D
Ehk siis tõestus, et maht ei taga kvaliteeti
kohe ültse :D6 September 2014 22:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Estonia's culture of intolerance - Eesti talu kultuur
Ning märkige "teavita admin" ja siis "rämpspost" nendel postitustel mis ilmselgelt siia ei sobi kuna muus keeles ja teemas6 September 2014 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on Seppo Hänninen's post.
Group: Estonia's culture of intolerance - Eesti talu kultuur
What is the task ?6 September 2014 22:50
Margus Meigo commented on Seppo Hänninen's post.
Group: Estonia's culture of intolerance - Eesti talu kultuur
and what group it is in your mind ?6 September 2014 22:50
Margus Meigo commented on Kalev Lindal's post.
Group: Estonia's culture of intolerance - Eesti talu kultuur
või kustuta post : )6 September 2014 22:41
Margus Meigo commented on Kalev Lindal's post.
Group: Estonia's culture of intolerance - Eesti talu kultuur
aga siit ka manus kadunud.. ehk jaga uuesti6 September 2014 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on Kalev Lindal's post.
Group: Estonia's culture of intolerance - Eesti talu kultuur
Ja see mehe joomise laul neil ka väga hea.
Kuid jah, läks hästi kokku mu tulnka teemaga6 September 2014 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on Kari Lamp's post.
Group: Estonia's culture of intolerance - Eesti talu kultuur
teeme puhtaks, ära lahku, meie enda töö, ise peame kaasa aitama (märgi sobimatuks need mis sobimatud)6 September 2014 22:39
Margus Meigo commented on Michael Fox's post.
So how the seccond run went,
was there mayor difference, some extra reccomendations about your proffession or something ?
HAve you been able to get near to ayouasca and shrooms as well in mayor amounts?
Please give some insights in textual language,
what about aliens and religion : )
was there mayor difference, some extra reccomendations about your proffession or something ?
HAve you been able to get near to ayouasca and shrooms as well in mayor amounts?
Please give some insights in textual language,
what about aliens and religion : )
6 September 2014 21:36
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
icc
6 September 2014 12:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
..lihtsalt liiga Õrna ja samas Kange Kraam
Millal jõuab arusaam?
Kella kümneni on veidi aega veel,
sina jälle sammud poe poole sead
ja siis õhinal nagu alati
kilekotitäie õlut koju vead.
See ei olevat ju mingi kange kraam,
mehel olla ei saa joogiks lahja lurr...
Küsid, kas ma olen mingi peenutseja daam,
vastan vihaselt, et jah, olen küll.
Mina olen oodanud sind juba liiga mitu ööd,
sina aga pudeliga jälle aega surnuks lööd...
Ära tule mulle kägu ajama,
et see oli viimane kord.
Istun autosse ja panen ajama –
see mu oma armas Mondeo Ford.
Võid nüüd üksi ennast välja magada
või ka igaveseks põhja käia.
Mul sind kahju pole jätta maha ka –
pole meest, pole ämma ja äia.
Mina olen oodanud sind juba liiga mitu ööd,
sina aga pudeliga jälle aega surnuks lööd...
See ei ole mingi kõrgem matemaatika teoreem,
ütlen sulle otse välja: "Kuule, mees, sul on probleem!"
Saan sult sõnumi, et tule tagasi
ja et armastad mind forever,
aga mina olen juba pakkind pagasi
ja alanud on järgmine level.
Elan Ibizal ja siin on päris hea,
juba kohtasin üht kena meest,
kes mind hoiab ja kellele ei pea
olema kogu aeg ema eest.
Mina olen oodanud sind juba liiga mitu ööd,
Sina aga pudeliga jälle aega surnuks lööd...
See ei ole mingi kõrgem matemaatika teoreem,
ütlen sulle otse välja: “Kuule, mees, sul on problem!”
Räägid, et ma olen ilge mõrd ja peenutseja daam,
kuid ma olen lihtsalt liiga õrn ja samas kange ka.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYKHaZTtxBM
Millal jõuab arusaam?
Kella kümneni on veidi aega veel,
sina jälle sammud poe poole sead
ja siis õhinal nagu alati
kilekotitäie õlut koju vead.
See ei olevat ju mingi kange kraam,
mehel olla ei saa joogiks lahja lurr...
Küsid, kas ma olen mingi peenutseja daam,
vastan vihaselt, et jah, olen küll.
Mina olen oodanud sind juba liiga mitu ööd,
sina aga pudeliga jälle aega surnuks lööd...
Ära tule mulle kägu ajama,
et see oli viimane kord.
Istun autosse ja panen ajama –
see mu oma armas Mondeo Ford.
Võid nüüd üksi ennast välja magada
või ka igaveseks põhja käia.
Mul sind kahju pole jätta maha ka –
pole meest, pole ämma ja äia.
Mina olen oodanud sind juba liiga mitu ööd,
sina aga pudeliga jälle aega surnuks lööd...
See ei ole mingi kõrgem matemaatika teoreem,
ütlen sulle otse välja: "Kuule, mees, sul on probleem!"
Saan sult sõnumi, et tule tagasi
ja et armastad mind forever,
aga mina olen juba pakkind pagasi
ja alanud on järgmine level.
Elan Ibizal ja siin on päris hea,
juba kohtasin üht kena meest,
kes mind hoiab ja kellele ei pea
olema kogu aeg ema eest.
Mina olen oodanud sind juba liiga mitu ööd,
Sina aga pudeliga jälle aega surnuks lööd...
See ei ole mingi kõrgem matemaatika teoreem,
ütlen sulle otse välja: “Kuule, mees, sul on problem!”
Räägid, et ma olen ilge mõrd ja peenutseja daam,
kuid ma olen lihtsalt liiga õrn ja samas kange ka.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYKHaZTtxBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYKHaZTtxBM
6 September 2014 02:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
any anarchi philosophy seems alright as long if they in the end Will submit to women, nature or god.
And in the end, if they are lucky, we will, how ever free we imagine ourself to be.
Some people even thing we are actually allowed to think whatever way we want (as it would have no effect on world ..)
I have not jet decided if its crazy, dangerous, wrong or just awesame to imagine, that we can use our body with mind how ever we want.
---
And if needed you can ask the Mason, right : )
http://www.masonforum.com/viewthread/225/
And in the end, if they are lucky, we will, how ever free we imagine ourself to be.
Some people even thing we are actually allowed to think whatever way we want (as it would have no effect on world ..)
I have not jet decided if its crazy, dangerous, wrong or just awesame to imagine, that we can use our body with mind how ever we want.
---
And if needed you can ask the Mason, right : )
http://www.masonforum.com/viewthread/225/
http://www.masonforum.com/viewthread/225/
6 September 2014 00:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Not just me saw it, there is entire wikipedia article about it as well
The Circle-Ⓐ
"The first recorded use of the A in a circle by anarchists was by the Federal Council of Spain of the International Workers Association.
This was set up by the freemason,
Giuseppe Fanelli in 1868.
It predates its adoption by anarchists as it was used as a symbol by freemasons.
According to George Woodcock, this symbol was not used by classical anarchists. In a series of photos of the Spanish Civil War taken by Gerda Taro a small A in a circle is visible chalked on the helmet of a militiaman.
There is no notation of the affiliation of the militiaman, but one can presume he is an Anarchist. The first documented use was by a small French group, Jeunesse Libertaire (“Libertarian Youth”) in 1964. Circolo Sacco e Vanzetti, youth group from Milan, adopted it in and in 1968 it became popular through out Italy. From there it spread rapidly around the world."
"..although anarchists have historically largely denied the importance of symbols to political movement. Since the revival of anarchism around the start of the 21st-century concurrent with the rise of the anti-globalization movement, anarchist cultural symbols are widely present "
But all that is besides the point,
It just to easy to see what it is...
Well, why was system adding Unicode U+24B6 in to computers... for anarchists? Hmm.. why..
(:
----
just for reading,
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/history/revolution/
//Real massons are religious, un less someone has job publicly to be un religious.. but yeah.. who would wanna job like that
Conclusion (from website)
" If one allows freemasons to define the goals and teachings of their own society, and if one accepts that the actions and beliefs of individual freemasons can be independent of their masonic membership, then the rôle of Freemasonry was non-existent. And the rôle of individual freemasons—however defined—is still to be determined. When one of the few regular freemasons identified as participating in the First International, Charles Bradlaugh, was also opposed to socialism it is clear that it is simplistic and misleading to identify or group individuals by their masonic membership "
The Circle-Ⓐ
"The first recorded use of the A in a circle by anarchists was by the Federal Council of Spain of the International Workers Association.
This was set up by the freemason,
Giuseppe Fanelli in 1868.
It predates its adoption by anarchists as it was used as a symbol by freemasons.
According to George Woodcock, this symbol was not used by classical anarchists. In a series of photos of the Spanish Civil War taken by Gerda Taro a small A in a circle is visible chalked on the helmet of a militiaman.
There is no notation of the affiliation of the militiaman, but one can presume he is an Anarchist. The first documented use was by a small French group, Jeunesse Libertaire (“Libertarian Youth”) in 1964. Circolo Sacco e Vanzetti, youth group from Milan, adopted it in and in 1968 it became popular through out Italy. From there it spread rapidly around the world."
"..although anarchists have historically largely denied the importance of symbols to political movement. Since the revival of anarchism around the start of the 21st-century concurrent with the rise of the anti-globalization movement, anarchist cultural symbols are widely present "
But all that is besides the point,
It just to easy to see what it is...
Well, why was system adding Unicode U+24B6 in to computers... for anarchists? Hmm.. why..
(:
----
just for reading,
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/history/revolution/
//Real massons are religious, un less someone has job publicly to be un religious.. but yeah.. who would wanna job like that
Conclusion (from website)
" If one allows freemasons to define the goals and teachings of their own society, and if one accepts that the actions and beliefs of individual freemasons can be independent of their masonic membership, then the rôle of Freemasonry was non-existent. And the rôle of individual freemasons—however defined—is still to be determined. When one of the few regular freemasons identified as participating in the First International, Charles Bradlaugh, was also opposed to socialism it is clear that it is simplistic and misleading to identify or group individuals by their masonic membership "
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/history/revolution/
6 September 2014 00:06
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's link.
(Y)
Kui miskit abi vaja tarvis, siis ana teada Kati :)
Kui miskit abi vaja tarvis, siis ana teada Kati :)
5 September 2014 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on Veronica Bevan Jones's post.
Group: Exopolitics UK
Can anyone please post me a list of horrors that iSIS has done, what is their true origin and do they actually do horror, or do they make revange, and back attack and message ?
And what is that compared to the viruses that take millions per year5 September 2014 22:10
Margus Meigo commented on Lii Harakas's post.
Group: Loodusesõbrad
Meil ka puuriida vahel elab, et kas muidu teate ussi seadusi, et kas võib mujale elama viia ja kuidas seda teha praktikas...
ega ta ise kotti vist ei hüppa meeleldi..5 September 2014 09:51
Margus Meigo commented on Maarika Eelmäe's post.
Group: Loodusesõbrad
aga vist sain aru küll miks viite vaja on ainult.. hea küll : )5 September 2014 09:10
Margus Meigo commented on Maarika Eelmäe's post.
Group: Loodusesõbrad
Aga miks albumis aint 5 pilti olla võib, et see ju üks postitus ja mida rohkem ühes albumis koos seda parem.
Album, miinimum 5 pildiga ehk oli hoopis .. ?
Albumites ikka rohkem kui 5 pilti enamasti ju..
Väga hea grupp muideks . ))5 September 2014 09:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
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Turkish Twitter Controversy - Two New Documents, Chilling Effects Staff, March 26, 2014
“Dallas Buyers Club” Makers Censor Comcast On Demand, By Mistake , Ernesto, TorrentFreak, March 03, 2013
Researches Using Chilling Effects Data Seek Survey Participants, Chilling Effects Team, February 14, 2014
Being a Chilling Effects Berktern, Sanna Kulevska - 2013 Berktern, July 01, 2013
If A Demand Letter Issues, But No One Receives It, Does It Generate Revenue?, Chilling Effects Team, December 06, 2013
WordPress Stands Up For Users - Files 512(f) Lawsuits, Chilling Effects Team, November 22, 2013
Further Developments In the Retraction Watch Takedown/Censorship Case, Adam Holland, February 22, 2013
Who Owns the Right to Your Face? – Websites Cash In on Internet Mugshots, Sanna Kulevska, July 08, 2013
Crypto Company Issues DMCA Takedown Against Critics of Its Products, Chilling Effects Team, November 21, 2013
Apple Releases Its First Transparency Report, Chilling Effects Team, November 06, 2013
American Banking Association Has No Response when Challenged, Chilling Effects Team, October 28, 2013
Apple Issues First Transparency Report, Rachel King, ZDNet
Chilling Effects Now Testing API-Based Notice Submissions, Chilling Effects Team, October 30, 2013
There Will Be Snark: DMCA Recipient RE: Bank Routing Numbers Acquires Pro Bono Representation, Adam Holland, August 27, 2013
Facebook Added to Russian Website Blocklist, Joins 30,000 Unofficial Others, Andy, TorrentFreak, September 20, 2013
AT&T Threatens Persistent Pirates With Account Termination, Ernesto, TorrentFreak
Feeling the NSA Chill: Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt., Adam Holland, September 12, 2013
Government's Redaction Fail Causes Exceptionally Grave Damage To Nation's Security, Tim Cushing, TechDirt, August 28, 2013
The Parody Shirt the NSA Doesn't Want You to Wear, Kevin Collier, Daily Dot, August 27, 2013
Facebook Offers Its First Transparency Report, Chilling Effects Team, August 28, 2013
Finnish Court Censors Website That Criticizes Censorship, Ernesto, TorrentFreak, August 28, 2013
Comcast Threatens to Sue TorrentFreak for Copyright Infringement (updated), Ernesto, TorrentFreak, August 21, 2013
Comcast Threatens to Sue TorrentFreak for Copyright Infringement, Ernesto, TorrentFreak
Microsoft Censors OpenOffice Download Links, Ernesto, TorrentFreak, August 14, 2013
This Post Is No Longer Available Due to…. (Why DMCA Abuse Occurs), Matt Schruers, http://www.project-disco.org, August 14, 2013
After On-Air Mishaps, Embarrassed Newscasters Turn to Copyright Law, Kristin Bergman, Digital Media Law Project, August 13, 2013
Court-Ordered Removals From Google: Data by Country: Jul-Dec 2012, Maura Youngman, August 12, 2013
Court Rejects First Russian ‘SOPA’ Lawsuit, Target Offers Snowden a Job, Andy, TorentFreak, July 31, 2013
Twitter Releases Updated Transparency Report , Liz Woolery, August 02, 2013
Google asked to remove 100 million 'piracy' links in 2013, BBC, July 30, 2013
In The Long History Of Specious DMCA Claims, This Is Definitely One Of Them, Tim Cushing, TechDirt, April 18, 2013
https://www.chillingeffects.org/news.cgi
https://www.minds.com/blog/view/353850975573774336/in-the-fappening%E2%80%99s-wake-4chan-intros-dmca-policy
http://www.project-disco.org/
5 September 2014 08:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Google maintented list of webistes from where to upload or download good pirate data:
http://www.mail.blueyonder.co.uk/transparencyreport/removals/copyright/requests/1438878/
Also:
Russia
We received a request from a local government agency to remove a YouTube video that allegedly infringed copyright because it contained a photo that the agency claimed to own. The video also criticized the agency. We removed the video pursuant to our copyright policy.
We received 235 requests and court orders from the Federal Service for Supervision in the Sphere of Telecom, Information Technologies and Mass Communications and other government agencies to remove 235 blog posts, Google Play apps, YouTube videos, and images that allegedly contain content in violation of the Federal Law on Information, Information Technologies and Information Protection. We removed 115 items of content for violating product policies, and we restricted 84 items from local view.
The number of content removal requests we received increased by 125% compared to the previous reporting period.
United Kingdom
We received a request from a law firm representing a former Member of Parliament to remove a preview from Google Books that allegedly defamed the MP by suggesting he was engaged in illegal activity. We removed the preview.
We received a request from a local government council to remove a blog post that allegedly defames the council. We did not remove the blog post.
United States
We received 27 requests from a federal government agency to suspend 89 apps from the Google Play store that allegedly infringed its trademark rights. After reviewing the apps in question with respect to those trademarks, we removed 76 apps.
We received a request from a local law enforcement official to remove a search result linking to a news article about his record as an officer. We did not remove the search result.
We received a court order directed at a third party to remove six search results linking to news articles and to claims on the Ripoff Report website that allegedly defamed a company by suggesting it was involved in illegal activities. We removed the search results linking to the Ripoff Report, but did not remove the news articles.
The number of content removal requests we received increased by 70% compared to the previous reporting period.
By country: http://www.mail.blueyonder.co.uk/transparencyreport/removals/government/countries/
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And thats it, really ?
http://www.mail.blueyonder.co.uk/transparencyreport/removals/copyright/requests/1438878/
Also:
Russia
We received a request from a local government agency to remove a YouTube video that allegedly infringed copyright because it contained a photo that the agency claimed to own. The video also criticized the agency. We removed the video pursuant to our copyright policy.
We received 235 requests and court orders from the Federal Service for Supervision in the Sphere of Telecom, Information Technologies and Mass Communications and other government agencies to remove 235 blog posts, Google Play apps, YouTube videos, and images that allegedly contain content in violation of the Federal Law on Information, Information Technologies and Information Protection. We removed 115 items of content for violating product policies, and we restricted 84 items from local view.
The number of content removal requests we received increased by 125% compared to the previous reporting period.
United Kingdom
We received a request from a law firm representing a former Member of Parliament to remove a preview from Google Books that allegedly defamed the MP by suggesting he was engaged in illegal activity. We removed the preview.
We received a request from a local government council to remove a blog post that allegedly defames the council. We did not remove the blog post.
United States
We received 27 requests from a federal government agency to suspend 89 apps from the Google Play store that allegedly infringed its trademark rights. After reviewing the apps in question with respect to those trademarks, we removed 76 apps.
We received a request from a local law enforcement official to remove a search result linking to a news article about his record as an officer. We did not remove the search result.
We received a court order directed at a third party to remove six search results linking to news articles and to claims on the Ripoff Report website that allegedly defamed a company by suggesting it was involved in illegal activities. We removed the search results linking to the Ripoff Report, but did not remove the news articles.
The number of content removal requests we received increased by 70% compared to the previous reporting period.
By country: http://www.mail.blueyonder.co.uk/transparencyreport/removals/government/countries/
-------
And thats it, really ?
http://www.mail.blueyonder.co.uk/transparencyreport/removals/copyright/requests/1438878/
5 September 2014 08:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(lol..DMCA only makes a favor..) Tumblr DMCA used to Bully Feminist Comic Blog Eschergirls
Abstract: Eschergirls is a Tumblr that critiques depictions of women in pop media, highlighting outrageous examples of how women are "posed, drawn, distorted, and/or sexualized out of context" in comic books. On Saturday, Tumblr notified the operator of the blog, Toronto-based Ami Angelwings, that an artist had filed a DMCA takedown notice alleging infringement against nine Eschergirls posts. Ami quickly took to her blog to notify her readers about the disabled posts, musing a bit about fair use and fan criticism and posting a screenshot of Tumblr's notification. Then today, the artist sent Eschergirls a cease and desist letter directly, alleging defamation.
[UPDATED August 5, 2014]
Eschergirls is a Tumblr that critiques depictions of women in pop media, highlighting outrageous examples of how women are "posed, drawn, distorted, and/or sexualized out of context" in comic books. For illustrative purposes, the operator of the blog, Toronto-based Ami Angelwings (@ami_angelwings) often incorporates photos or links of the original artwork into her posts: a recent post includes a reader-submitted photo of an anatomically crazy (read: boobalicious) statuette of Mary Jane from Spiderman.
On Saturday, Tumblr notified Ami that Randy Queen, the artist for the comic Dark Chylde, had filed a DMCA takedown notice alleging infringement against nine Eschergirls posts. Ami quickly took to her blog to notify her readers about the disabled posts, musing a bit about fair use and fan criticism and posting a screenshot of Tumblr's notification. This post alone received 756 notes on Tumblr.
Then today, Queen sent Eschergirls a second cease and desist letter over email. This time, he alleged defamation and demanded the removal of the post with the screenshot and all comments. Queen even threatened legal action, requesting that Eschergirls "please move along" and accusing them of "taking shots" at his work.
To clarify: Queen sent a takedown about a blog post written about another takedown that he also sent, which targeted yet another set of blog posts that cited his work. Queen's agitated second takedown letter brandished the threat of legal action to selectively bully critical opinions off of Tumblr, rather than advance the objectives of proper content licensing.
Today via Twitter, Ami sent a screenshot of this second email to Chilling Effects. From there, the case has caught the eye of law blog Popehat and Corynne McSherry, the Intellectual Property director at the EFF.
Currently, Tumblr does not release a transparency report or any statistics for DMCA notices it receives, nor do they share the DMCA notices they receive with us here at Chilling Effects, and it unclear how many notices result in how many withheld pages annually. However, they do provide instructions on filing a counter notice in their Terms of Service.
In the case of Eschergirls (which now sports a new disclaimer at the top of the blog that reads "all art featured on this blog belongs to their respective artists"),
allegations of DMCA infringement were used to bully blogger speech AND chill fair use. While Queen’s initial takedown notice may have had legitimate claims regarding the rights to his artwork, this second complaint is pretty far off base: nowhere in copyright law would his reasoning for the removal of entire Eschergirls blog posts pass muster.
As of 3:38 PM (EST) today, Tumblr has disabled all reblogs of Ami's posts about Queen's use of the DMCA, and Ami is continuing to live-Tweet her efforts to dispute Queen's actions with Tumblr.
[UPDATE: August 5, 2014]
A few more updates in the Escher Girls case: yesterday, Chilling Effects and a few other blogs reported on the comic artist Randy Queen raising a DMCA-flavored ruckus against the Tumblr Escher Girls. Today, Ken White at Popehat reveals Queen has sent yet another follow up email, available for viewing here. Queen seems to have retreated on some of his legal threats, singing off with the phrase "I am sure there are more positive uses of both of our time," but continues to use copyright and defamation language in his attempt to stop Ami and others from posting about the takedowns.
In turn, the folks at Popehat have issued a call to arms, asking readers to repost about Queen's actions and generate a Streisand Effect for the story. This new development can only be seen as somewhat karmic for someone who not only misused the DMCA, but did so in an attempt to obscure or "disappear" information about previous dubious takedowns. Alas, perhaps someone should have explained to Queen that the takedown provisions of copyright law are not intended to act as a catch-all censor for unwanted speech. Or perhaps he could still use that explanation, as the message does not seem to have gotten through.
https://www.chillingeffects.org/weather.cgi?WeatherID=844
Abstract: Eschergirls is a Tumblr that critiques depictions of women in pop media, highlighting outrageous examples of how women are "posed, drawn, distorted, and/or sexualized out of context" in comic books. On Saturday, Tumblr notified the operator of the blog, Toronto-based Ami Angelwings, that an artist had filed a DMCA takedown notice alleging infringement against nine Eschergirls posts. Ami quickly took to her blog to notify her readers about the disabled posts, musing a bit about fair use and fan criticism and posting a screenshot of Tumblr's notification. Then today, the artist sent Eschergirls a cease and desist letter directly, alleging defamation.
[UPDATED August 5, 2014]
Eschergirls is a Tumblr that critiques depictions of women in pop media, highlighting outrageous examples of how women are "posed, drawn, distorted, and/or sexualized out of context" in comic books. For illustrative purposes, the operator of the blog, Toronto-based Ami Angelwings (@ami_angelwings) often incorporates photos or links of the original artwork into her posts: a recent post includes a reader-submitted photo of an anatomically crazy (read: boobalicious) statuette of Mary Jane from Spiderman.
On Saturday, Tumblr notified Ami that Randy Queen, the artist for the comic Dark Chylde, had filed a DMCA takedown notice alleging infringement against nine Eschergirls posts. Ami quickly took to her blog to notify her readers about the disabled posts, musing a bit about fair use and fan criticism and posting a screenshot of Tumblr's notification. This post alone received 756 notes on Tumblr.
Then today, Queen sent Eschergirls a second cease and desist letter over email. This time, he alleged defamation and demanded the removal of the post with the screenshot and all comments. Queen even threatened legal action, requesting that Eschergirls "please move along" and accusing them of "taking shots" at his work.
To clarify: Queen sent a takedown about a blog post written about another takedown that he also sent, which targeted yet another set of blog posts that cited his work. Queen's agitated second takedown letter brandished the threat of legal action to selectively bully critical opinions off of Tumblr, rather than advance the objectives of proper content licensing.
Today via Twitter, Ami sent a screenshot of this second email to Chilling Effects. From there, the case has caught the eye of law blog Popehat and Corynne McSherry, the Intellectual Property director at the EFF.
Currently, Tumblr does not release a transparency report or any statistics for DMCA notices it receives, nor do they share the DMCA notices they receive with us here at Chilling Effects, and it unclear how many notices result in how many withheld pages annually. However, they do provide instructions on filing a counter notice in their Terms of Service.
In the case of Eschergirls (which now sports a new disclaimer at the top of the blog that reads "all art featured on this blog belongs to their respective artists"),
allegations of DMCA infringement were used to bully blogger speech AND chill fair use. While Queen’s initial takedown notice may have had legitimate claims regarding the rights to his artwork, this second complaint is pretty far off base: nowhere in copyright law would his reasoning for the removal of entire Eschergirls blog posts pass muster.
As of 3:38 PM (EST) today, Tumblr has disabled all reblogs of Ami's posts about Queen's use of the DMCA, and Ami is continuing to live-Tweet her efforts to dispute Queen's actions with Tumblr.
[UPDATE: August 5, 2014]
A few more updates in the Escher Girls case: yesterday, Chilling Effects and a few other blogs reported on the comic artist Randy Queen raising a DMCA-flavored ruckus against the Tumblr Escher Girls. Today, Ken White at Popehat reveals Queen has sent yet another follow up email, available for viewing here. Queen seems to have retreated on some of his legal threats, singing off with the phrase "I am sure there are more positive uses of both of our time," but continues to use copyright and defamation language in his attempt to stop Ami and others from posting about the takedowns.
In turn, the folks at Popehat have issued a call to arms, asking readers to repost about Queen's actions and generate a Streisand Effect for the story. This new development can only be seen as somewhat karmic for someone who not only misused the DMCA, but did so in an attempt to obscure or "disappear" information about previous dubious takedowns. Alas, perhaps someone should have explained to Queen that the takedown provisions of copyright law are not intended to act as a catch-all censor for unwanted speech. Or perhaps he could still use that explanation, as the message does not seem to have gotten through.
https://www.chillingeffects.org/weather.cgi?WeatherID=844
https://www.chillingeffects.org/weather.cgi?WeatherID=844
5 September 2014 08:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
just for top 10 public ones: 85 000 PER one DAY :D
this is a lot of workforce..
this is a lot of workforce..
5 September 2014 07:53
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremlont Webre's post.
Group: Exopolitics UK
are they on our planet or we on their planed?5 September 2014 01:04
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremlont Webre's post.
Group: Exopolitics UK
Stoping love was and is basic tool for five star forces (now count up all the software, money, media and millitary goverments up where you see five star on... from anarchist to..some church,,)5 September 2014 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremlont Webre's post.
Group: Exopolitics UK
How can people talk about that as "epic news" way after they accept the realization that who we are and who is here..
then all of that is just basic,
even soviet union can do it, long time ago, with human technology5 September 2014 00:57
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremlont Webre's post.
Group: Exopolitics UK
Reptilians are good right?
(am serious)5 September 2014 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
pharmaceuticals kill us rearly, putting then in to our body in other hand..
5 September 2014 00:54
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
Good update, Thanks :)
4 September 2014 23:19
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Aww
4 September 2014 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
I think Aliens, are not really asking human premission,
Is not like they should care to much what one of their co-product thinks of them
Is not like they should care to much what one of their co-product thinks of them
4 September 2014 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(Y)
mAson propacanda :p
mAson propacanda :p
4 September 2014 15:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Still... something is.. need more
4 September 2014 13:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Many people may not know Ilves, but they may have spotted the world leader at major gatherings sporting a bow tie, a fashion statement he's come to prefer.
The president of Estonia grew up in a spot that couldn't be farther in distance or spirit from this medieval walled city: northern New Jersey.
// (not telling so good about Jersey spirit like that :p )
Toomas Hendrik Ilves was born in Sweden to Estonian refugee parents but spent his formative years and early adulthood in Jersey. Ilves may now be president of Estonia, but the guy from Leonia but still claims Garden State bona fides.
"I knew who Bruce Springsteen was before he had his first record," he told USA Today last year - something President Obama noted when the two held a press conference here Wednesday afternoon.
He grew up there and learned computer programming at Leonia High School. Ilves graduated as valedictorian in 1972 and went on to receive degrees from Columbia University and the University of Pennsylvania.
In New Jersey, Obama said, Ilves "is still known as Tom."
Ilves was teaching in Vancouver when he moved over the Atlantic to work at Radio Free Europe. After Estonia declared its independence, he was asked to join the government. In 1993, he became an ambassador and has been president since 2006.
"I was one of the few people who knew something about Estonia and the United States who did not have a background in the KGB," he said. "I had to renounce my United States citizenship, and take a tenfold cut in pay," he told The Record in 2008.
Finland once offered Estonia its antiquated analog telephone system when it was upgrading to a new one. Estonia declined and built its own communications systems -- including digital telephones -- in the 1990s, and gambled on the Internet. It also started putting most government functions online, not even bothering to create a paper system for some offices.
Estonia now bills itself as "E-Estonia."
Young entrepreneurs have started the Twitter hashtag #Estonianmafia to promote Estonian startups. In 2012 the country started a public-private partnership to help teach children in school how to code.
About 90 percent of Estonia's 1.3 million people have electronic identification cards that allow them to bank, vote and access services. The card requires a PIN to use and holds a digital signature and a certificate to authorize one's identity.
About 94 percent of Estonians filed their taxes online last year and about a quarter of people voted online in the country's 2011 Parlimentary elections. Ninety-eight percent of all banking is done online.
It is a system whose roots took shape when Ilves was a teenager in Leonia, first learning programming.
"That was something that shaped my thinking regarding Estonia," Ilves told USA Today. "The idea that we should be getting our young people to work with computers."
"Most Estonians would not even consider doing things the old-fashioned way, like physically visiting an office when the process could easily be completed online," the government's official website says, alongside photos of people connected to laptop in the country's forests.
"I should have called the Estonians when we were setting up our health care website," Obama said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/09/03/estonias-president-came-to-tallinn-by-way-of-the-jersey-turnpike/
The president of Estonia grew up in a spot that couldn't be farther in distance or spirit from this medieval walled city: northern New Jersey.
// (not telling so good about Jersey spirit like that :p )
Toomas Hendrik Ilves was born in Sweden to Estonian refugee parents but spent his formative years and early adulthood in Jersey. Ilves may now be president of Estonia, but the guy from Leonia but still claims Garden State bona fides.
"I knew who Bruce Springsteen was before he had his first record," he told USA Today last year - something President Obama noted when the two held a press conference here Wednesday afternoon.
He grew up there and learned computer programming at Leonia High School. Ilves graduated as valedictorian in 1972 and went on to receive degrees from Columbia University and the University of Pennsylvania.
In New Jersey, Obama said, Ilves "is still known as Tom."
Ilves was teaching in Vancouver when he moved over the Atlantic to work at Radio Free Europe. After Estonia declared its independence, he was asked to join the government. In 1993, he became an ambassador and has been president since 2006.
"I was one of the few people who knew something about Estonia and the United States who did not have a background in the KGB," he said. "I had to renounce my United States citizenship, and take a tenfold cut in pay," he told The Record in 2008.
Finland once offered Estonia its antiquated analog telephone system when it was upgrading to a new one. Estonia declined and built its own communications systems -- including digital telephones -- in the 1990s, and gambled on the Internet. It also started putting most government functions online, not even bothering to create a paper system for some offices.
Estonia now bills itself as "E-Estonia."
Young entrepreneurs have started the Twitter hashtag #Estonianmafia to promote Estonian startups. In 2012 the country started a public-private partnership to help teach children in school how to code.
About 90 percent of Estonia's 1.3 million people have electronic identification cards that allow them to bank, vote and access services. The card requires a PIN to use and holds a digital signature and a certificate to authorize one's identity.
About 94 percent of Estonians filed their taxes online last year and about a quarter of people voted online in the country's 2011 Parlimentary elections. Ninety-eight percent of all banking is done online.
It is a system whose roots took shape when Ilves was a teenager in Leonia, first learning programming.
"That was something that shaped my thinking regarding Estonia," Ilves told USA Today. "The idea that we should be getting our young people to work with computers."
"Most Estonians would not even consider doing things the old-fashioned way, like physically visiting an office when the process could easily be completed online," the government's official website says, alongside photos of people connected to laptop in the country's forests.
"I should have called the Estonians when we were setting up our health care website," Obama said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/09/03/estonias-president-came-to-tallinn-by-way-of-the-jersey-turnpike/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/09/03/estonias-president-came-to-tallinn-by-way-of-the-jersey-turnpike/
4 September 2014 13:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
üks lihtne tõde
https://soundcloud.com/veikotubin/koikonyks
https://soundcloud.com/veikotubin/koikonyks
https://soundcloud.com/veikotubin/koikonyks
4 September 2014 10:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But what i rather listen https://soundcloud.com/p-rt-uusberg/htu-ilu
https://soundcloud.com/p-rt-uusberg/htu-ilu
4 September 2014 09:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The northern part of
Swithiod lies uninhabited on account of frost and cold, as
likewise the southern parts of Blueland are waste from the
burning of the sun. In Swithiod are many great domains, and many
races of men, and many kinds of languages. There are giants, and
there are dwarfs, and there are also blue men, and there are any
kinds of stranger creatures.
It is said that the earth's circle which the human race inhabits
is torn across into many bights, so that great seas run into the
land from the out-ocean. Thus it is known that a great sea goes
in at Narvesund (1), and up to the land of Jerusalem. From the
same sea a long sea-bight stretches towards the north-east, and
is called the Black Sea, and divides the three parts of the
earth; of which the eastern part is called Asia, and the western
is called by some Europa, by some Enea. Northward of the Black
Sea lies Swithiod the Great, or the Cold. The Great Swithiod is
reckoned by some as not less than the Great Serkland (2); others
compare it to the Great Blueland (3).
There are huge wild beasts, and
dreadful dragons. On the south side of the mountains which lie
outside of all inhabited lands runs a river through Swithiod,
which is properly called by the name of Tanais, but was formerly
called Tanaquisl, or Vanaquisl, and which falls into the Black
Sea. The country of the people on the Vanaquisl was called
Vanaland,(IN Estonia vana: "old") or Vanaheim; and the river separates the three parts of
the world, of which the eastermost part is called Asia, and the
westermost Europe.
? NOTES:
(1) The Straits of Gibraltar.
(2) Northern Africa.
(3) Saharan and sub-Saharan Africa.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/heim/02ynglga.htm
appearance of a Messiah, Resurrection, a Final Judgement, and a Heavenly Kingdom on Earth
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/
Swithiod lies uninhabited on account of frost and cold, as
likewise the southern parts of Blueland are waste from the
burning of the sun. In Swithiod are many great domains, and many
races of men, and many kinds of languages. There are giants, and
there are dwarfs, and there are also blue men, and there are any
kinds of stranger creatures.
It is said that the earth's circle which the human race inhabits
is torn across into many bights, so that great seas run into the
land from the out-ocean. Thus it is known that a great sea goes
in at Narvesund (1), and up to the land of Jerusalem. From the
same sea a long sea-bight stretches towards the north-east, and
is called the Black Sea, and divides the three parts of the
earth; of which the eastern part is called Asia, and the western
is called by some Europa, by some Enea. Northward of the Black
Sea lies Swithiod the Great, or the Cold. The Great Swithiod is
reckoned by some as not less than the Great Serkland (2); others
compare it to the Great Blueland (3).
There are huge wild beasts, and
dreadful dragons. On the south side of the mountains which lie
outside of all inhabited lands runs a river through Swithiod,
which is properly called by the name of Tanais, but was formerly
called Tanaquisl, or Vanaquisl, and which falls into the Black
Sea. The country of the people on the Vanaquisl was called
Vanaland,(IN Estonia vana: "old") or Vanaheim; and the river separates the three parts of
the world, of which the eastermost part is called Asia, and the
westermost Europe.
? NOTES:
(1) The Straits of Gibraltar.
(2) Northern Africa.
(3) Saharan and sub-Saharan Africa.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/heim/02ynglga.htm
appearance of a Messiah, Resurrection, a Final Judgement, and a Heavenly Kingdom on Earth
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/
http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/heim/02ynglga.htm
3 September 2014 20:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The Merovingian dynasty owes its name to the semi-legendary Merovech and of his son Childeric I victory's
(reigned c. 457 AD – 481 AD against the Visigoths, Saxons, and Alemanni.
The Thervingi first appeared in history as a distinct people in the year 268 when they invaded the Roman Empire.
The Christianization of the Alemanni took place during Merovingian times (6th to 8th centuries).
The Saxons' earliest area of settlement is believed to have been Northern Albingia, an area approximately that of modern Holstein. This general area also included the probable homeland of the Angles.
Saxons, along with the Angles, and other continental Germanic tribes, participated in the Anglo-Saxon settlement of Britain during and after the 5th century.
Alemanni, name means "all men"
the Alemanni captured the Agri Decumates in 260 AD, and later expanded into present-day Alsace, and northern Switzerland, leading to the establishment of the Old High German language in those regions. (Estonia language is based 30% on Old German)
In 496 AD., the Alemanni were conquered by Frankish leader Clovis and incorporated into his dominions. The legacy of the Alemanni survives in the names of Germany in several languages
it was the name used by outsiders for those who called themselves the Suebi.
While Caesar treated them as one Germanic tribe, though the largest and most warlike, later authors such as Tacitus, Pliny and Strabo specified that
the Suevi "do not, like the Chatti or Tencteri, constitute a single nation.
They actually occupy more than half of Germany, and are divided into a number of distinct tribes under distinct names, though all generally are called Suebi".
"At one time, classical ethnography had applied the name "Suebi" to so many Germanic tribes that it appeared as though in the first centuries A.D. this native name would replace the foreign name "Germans".
Classical authors noted that the Suebic tribes, compared to other Germanic tribes, were very mobile, and not reliant upon agriculture.
Various Suebic groups moved from the direction of the Baltic sea and river Elbe, becoming a periodic threat to the Roman empire
Walafrid Strabo, a monk of the Abbey of St. Gall writing in the 9th century, remarked, in discussing the people of Switzerland and the surrounding regions, that only foreigners called them the Alemanni, but that they gave themselves the name of Suebi.
(reigned c. 457 AD – 481 AD against the Visigoths, Saxons, and Alemanni.
The Thervingi first appeared in history as a distinct people in the year 268 when they invaded the Roman Empire.
The Christianization of the Alemanni took place during Merovingian times (6th to 8th centuries).
The Saxons' earliest area of settlement is believed to have been Northern Albingia, an area approximately that of modern Holstein. This general area also included the probable homeland of the Angles.
Saxons, along with the Angles, and other continental Germanic tribes, participated in the Anglo-Saxon settlement of Britain during and after the 5th century.
Alemanni, name means "all men"
the Alemanni captured the Agri Decumates in 260 AD, and later expanded into present-day Alsace, and northern Switzerland, leading to the establishment of the Old High German language in those regions. (Estonia language is based 30% on Old German)
In 496 AD., the Alemanni were conquered by Frankish leader Clovis and incorporated into his dominions. The legacy of the Alemanni survives in the names of Germany in several languages
it was the name used by outsiders for those who called themselves the Suebi.
While Caesar treated them as one Germanic tribe, though the largest and most warlike, later authors such as Tacitus, Pliny and Strabo specified that
the Suevi "do not, like the Chatti or Tencteri, constitute a single nation.
They actually occupy more than half of Germany, and are divided into a number of distinct tribes under distinct names, though all generally are called Suebi".
"At one time, classical ethnography had applied the name "Suebi" to so many Germanic tribes that it appeared as though in the first centuries A.D. this native name would replace the foreign name "Germans".
Classical authors noted that the Suebic tribes, compared to other Germanic tribes, were very mobile, and not reliant upon agriculture.
Various Suebic groups moved from the direction of the Baltic sea and river Elbe, becoming a periodic threat to the Roman empire
Walafrid Strabo, a monk of the Abbey of St. Gall writing in the 9th century, remarked, in discussing the people of Switzerland and the surrounding regions, that only foreigners called them the Alemanni, but that they gave themselves the name of Suebi.
3 September 2014 19:56
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
or tape it on the post, so no one will nick it
can you explain once more, what ur breaching choice is?
can you explain once more, what ur breaching choice is?
3 September 2014 18:22
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
just post a recording phone in some corner and let it run, then forget its filming and do your thing.. then your natural character that is pretty awesome at times can come out more easy
3 September 2014 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Video material ?
3 September 2014 18:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The Merovingian ruling family were sometimes referred to as the "long-haired kings" (Latin reges criniti)
The Merovingians were a Salian Frankish dynasty that ruled the Franks for nearly 300 years in a region known as Francia in Latin, beginning in the middle of the 5th century AD.
After the death of Clovis there were frequent clashes between different branches of the family, but when threatened by its neighbours the Merovingians presented a strong united front
During the final century of Merovingian rule, the kings were increasingly pushed into a ceremonial role. The Merovingian rule ended in March 752 AD when Pope Zachary formally deposed Childeric III
The term "Merovingian" comes from medieval Latin Merovingi or Merohingi ("sons of Merovech"), an alteration of an unattested Old Dutch form, akin to their dynasty's Old English name Merewīowing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merovingian_dynasty
The Merovingian dynasty owes its name to the semi-legendary Merovech (Latinised as Meroveus or Merovius and in French as Merovée), leader of the Salian Franks, and emerges into wider history with the victories of his son
Childeric I (reigned c. 457 AD – 481 AD against the Visigoths, Saxons, and Alemanni.
The Thervingi first appeared in history as a distinct people in the year 268 when they invaded the Roman Empire.This invasion overran the Roman provinces of Pannonia and Illyricum and even threatened Italia itself.
(was that smooth or what.. :))
The Visigoths, "forest people" Latin: Visigothi, Wisigothi, Vesi (water in Estonian), Visi, Wesi, or Wisi) were branches of the nomadic tribes of Germanic peoples referred to collectively as the Goths.
These tribes flourished and spread during the late Roman Empire in Late Antiquity, or the Migration Period.
The Visigoths emerged from earlier Gothic groups (possibly the Thervingi)
who had invaded the Roman Empire beginning in 376 and had defeated the Romans at the Battle of Adrianople in 378.
The Visigoths invaded Italy under Alaric I and sacked Rome in 410. Their long history of migration led the Visigoths to compare themselves to the Biblical Hebrew people who purportedly wandered for forty years in the Sinai Desert. After the Visigoths sacked Rome, they began settling down, first in southern Gaul and eventually in Spain and Portugal, where they founded the Kingdom of the Visigoths.
Contemporaneous references to the Gothic tribes use the terms "Vesi" (Latin for Visigoths), "Ostrogothi" (Latin for Ostrogoths), "Tervingi", and "Greuthungi." Most scholars have concluded that the terms "Vesi" and "Tervingi" were both used to refer to one particular tribe, while the terms "Ostrogothi" and "Greuthungi" were used to refer to another
The Visigoths are called Wesi or Wisi by Trebellius Pollio, Claudian, and Sidonius Apollinaris. The word is Gothic for "good", implying the "good or worthy people"
Extra
The term "Visigoth" was an invention of the 6th century. Cassiodorus, a Roman in the service of Theoderic the Great, invented the term "Visigothi" to match that of "Ostrogothi", terms he thought of as signifying "western Goths" and "eastern Goths" respectively.[6] The western–eastern division was a simplification (and a literary device) of 6th century historians; political realities were more complex.[16] Further, Cassiodorus used the term "Goths" to refer only to the Ostrogoths, whom he served, and reserved the geographical term "Visigoths" for the Gallo-Spanish Goths. This usage, however, was adopted by the Visigoths themselves in their communications with the Byzantine Empire and was still in use in the 7th century.
The Battle of Adrianople in 378 was the decisive moment of the war. The Roman forces were slaughtered and the Emperor Valens (Vale in Est. "Lie") was killed during the fighting.
Adrianople shocked the Roman world and eventually forced the Romans to negotiate with and settle the tribe within the empire's boundaries, a development with far reaching consequences
for the eventual fall of Rome.
The Visigothic Kingdom was a Western European power in the 5th to 7th centuries, created in Gaul when the Romans lost their control of the western half of their empire. In response to the invasion of Roman Hispania of 409 by the Vandals, Alans and Suevi, Honorius, the emperor in the West, enlisted the aid of the Visigoths to regain control of the territory.
The Visigoths also became the dominant power in the Iberian Peninsula, quickly crushing the Alans and forcing the Vandals into north Africa.
Family Law
The Visigothic Code of Law (forum judicum), which had been part of aristocratic oral tradition, was set in writing in the early 7th century— and survives in two separate codices preserved at the Escorial. It goes into more detail than a modern constitution commonly does and reveals a great deal about Visigothic social structure.
One of the greatest contributions of the Visigoths to family law was their protection of the property rights of married women, which was continued by Spanish law and ultimately evolved into the community property system now in force in part of the United States
Arianism
Prior to the Middle Ages, the Visigoths, as well as other Germanic peoples, followed what is now referred to as Germanic paganism. While the Germanic peoples were slowly converted to Christianity by varying means, many elements of the pre-Christian culture and indigenous beliefs remained firmly in place after the conversion process, particularly in the more rural and distant regions.
The Visigoths, Ostrogoths, and Vandals were Christianized while they were still outside the bounds of the Roman Empire; however, they converted to Arianism rather than to the Nicean ("Catholic") version followed by most Romans, who considered them heretics. The Visigothic leadership maintained its Arianism up until at least the reign of King Liuvigild.
The Emperor also ordered all copies of the Thalia, the book in which Arius had expressed his teachings, to be burned.
"forest people"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism
Saareland, Saar river.. how much more Saar (Est. island) can you be then that on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saar_%28river%29#mediaviewer/File:Saarschleife.jpg : )
The Merovingians were a Salian Frankish dynasty that ruled the Franks for nearly 300 years in a region known as Francia in Latin, beginning in the middle of the 5th century AD.
After the death of Clovis there were frequent clashes between different branches of the family, but when threatened by its neighbours the Merovingians presented a strong united front
During the final century of Merovingian rule, the kings were increasingly pushed into a ceremonial role. The Merovingian rule ended in March 752 AD when Pope Zachary formally deposed Childeric III
The term "Merovingian" comes from medieval Latin Merovingi or Merohingi ("sons of Merovech"), an alteration of an unattested Old Dutch form, akin to their dynasty's Old English name Merewīowing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merovingian_dynasty
The Merovingian dynasty owes its name to the semi-legendary Merovech (Latinised as Meroveus or Merovius and in French as Merovée), leader of the Salian Franks, and emerges into wider history with the victories of his son
Childeric I (reigned c. 457 AD – 481 AD against the Visigoths, Saxons, and Alemanni.
The Thervingi first appeared in history as a distinct people in the year 268 when they invaded the Roman Empire.This invasion overran the Roman provinces of Pannonia and Illyricum and even threatened Italia itself.
(was that smooth or what.. :))
The Visigoths, "forest people" Latin: Visigothi, Wisigothi, Vesi (water in Estonian), Visi, Wesi, or Wisi) were branches of the nomadic tribes of Germanic peoples referred to collectively as the Goths.
These tribes flourished and spread during the late Roman Empire in Late Antiquity, or the Migration Period.
The Visigoths emerged from earlier Gothic groups (possibly the Thervingi)
who had invaded the Roman Empire beginning in 376 and had defeated the Romans at the Battle of Adrianople in 378.
The Visigoths invaded Italy under Alaric I and sacked Rome in 410. Their long history of migration led the Visigoths to compare themselves to the Biblical Hebrew people who purportedly wandered for forty years in the Sinai Desert. After the Visigoths sacked Rome, they began settling down, first in southern Gaul and eventually in Spain and Portugal, where they founded the Kingdom of the Visigoths.
Contemporaneous references to the Gothic tribes use the terms "Vesi" (Latin for Visigoths), "Ostrogothi" (Latin for Ostrogoths), "Tervingi", and "Greuthungi." Most scholars have concluded that the terms "Vesi" and "Tervingi" were both used to refer to one particular tribe, while the terms "Ostrogothi" and "Greuthungi" were used to refer to another
The Visigoths are called Wesi or Wisi by Trebellius Pollio, Claudian, and Sidonius Apollinaris. The word is Gothic for "good", implying the "good or worthy people"
Extra
The term "Visigoth" was an invention of the 6th century. Cassiodorus, a Roman in the service of Theoderic the Great, invented the term "Visigothi" to match that of "Ostrogothi", terms he thought of as signifying "western Goths" and "eastern Goths" respectively.[6] The western–eastern division was a simplification (and a literary device) of 6th century historians; political realities were more complex.[16] Further, Cassiodorus used the term "Goths" to refer only to the Ostrogoths, whom he served, and reserved the geographical term "Visigoths" for the Gallo-Spanish Goths. This usage, however, was adopted by the Visigoths themselves in their communications with the Byzantine Empire and was still in use in the 7th century.
The Battle of Adrianople in 378 was the decisive moment of the war. The Roman forces were slaughtered and the Emperor Valens (Vale in Est. "Lie") was killed during the fighting.
Adrianople shocked the Roman world and eventually forced the Romans to negotiate with and settle the tribe within the empire's boundaries, a development with far reaching consequences
for the eventual fall of Rome.
The Visigothic Kingdom was a Western European power in the 5th to 7th centuries, created in Gaul when the Romans lost their control of the western half of their empire. In response to the invasion of Roman Hispania of 409 by the Vandals, Alans and Suevi, Honorius, the emperor in the West, enlisted the aid of the Visigoths to regain control of the territory.
The Visigoths also became the dominant power in the Iberian Peninsula, quickly crushing the Alans and forcing the Vandals into north Africa.
Family Law
The Visigothic Code of Law (forum judicum), which had been part of aristocratic oral tradition, was set in writing in the early 7th century— and survives in two separate codices preserved at the Escorial. It goes into more detail than a modern constitution commonly does and reveals a great deal about Visigothic social structure.
One of the greatest contributions of the Visigoths to family law was their protection of the property rights of married women, which was continued by Spanish law and ultimately evolved into the community property system now in force in part of the United States
Arianism
Prior to the Middle Ages, the Visigoths, as well as other Germanic peoples, followed what is now referred to as Germanic paganism. While the Germanic peoples were slowly converted to Christianity by varying means, many elements of the pre-Christian culture and indigenous beliefs remained firmly in place after the conversion process, particularly in the more rural and distant regions.
The Visigoths, Ostrogoths, and Vandals were Christianized while they were still outside the bounds of the Roman Empire; however, they converted to Arianism rather than to the Nicean ("Catholic") version followed by most Romans, who considered them heretics. The Visigothic leadership maintained its Arianism up until at least the reign of King Liuvigild.
The Emperor also ordered all copies of the Thalia, the book in which Arius had expressed his teachings, to be burned.
"forest people"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism
Saareland, Saar river.. how much more Saar (Est. island) can you be then that on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saar_%28river%29#mediaviewer/File:Saarschleife.jpg : )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merovingian_dynasty
3 September 2014 17:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
was trying to read lyrics on pater same fast and proper has Ems verse, was not able to keep up to the last verse, eyes cant read, translate and tune in words same fast as he spits,
and spits so good, that not even trained air can catch most of the words with ease.
ill skill as they say over there .P
and spits so good, that not even trained air can catch most of the words with ease.
ill skill as they say over there .P
3 September 2014 15:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Cross Keys also come to mind, but yeah. spreads from the childhood to the king hood also for yea
3 September 2014 15:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The Merovingian aka The Frenchman provides a safe haven for exiled or obsolete programs in the Matrix, as an alternative to deletion. Being an exile himself, the Merovingian's services are not condoned by either the "Redpills" or the Machines, but they are overlooked unless in direct conflict with either of their goals.
There is not much revealed about the Merovingian's origin, but from what both he and the Oracle say, he was a program made to regulate behavior amongst the "Bluepills" and report back with results. After the collapse of the first Matrix, he became obsolete[1] as the newer versions presented an illusion of choice to the hard-wired humans, causing the behavioral manipulation to be more indirect than the Merovingian's more straightforward methods.
Instead of accepting deletion, he retreated into the programming of the Matrix, disguised as a human, and resolved to aid other programs who have become obsolete. He is seen as a hero to exiled programs, and as an impulsive and selfish opportunist to others. He is disillusioned by the idea of choice amongst humans, which resulted in his program becoming obsolete in the Matrix, and believes that the only governing principle of the universe is that of cause and effect
In The Matrix Revolutions, Morpheus and Trinity learn from the Oracle that the Merovingian has put a price on their heads for taking the Keymaker from him. Accompanied by Seraph, they enter the decadent Club Hel to bargain with him for the release of Neo, who has become trapped in a gateway between the Matrix and the Machine world. The Merovingian offers to free him in exchange for the Oracle's eyes; an irritated Trinity responds by initiating a Mexican standoff, putting a gun to his head and threatening to kill him unless he lets Neo go - a deal that the Merovingian accepts.
Extra:
Seraph
----
he claims he isn't allied with any of the three Factions, that he protects the Oracle and Sati - and that he will use force to protect them if need be.
Seraph is a biblical allusion to the first of nine orders of angels, the Seraphim (singular Seraph). This allusion is also evidenced by the fire-like appearance of Seraph when Neo sees him in his coded form. It is also hinted when the Merovingian's guards state that he is "wingless." The word 'seraph' comes from the Hebrew word saraph meaning 'burning one'.
His skills as a warrior are unmatched by any one in the Matrix, considering he was originally an Agent himself, along with the super strength and speed that comes with that purpose. Despite not having his wings, Seraph is still able to hyperjump beyond the range of many exiles and red pills.
During the assault on Hel's gates, Seraph is referred as "wingless", by one of the guards and the Merovingian refers to him as "his protégé". The three make their way to the club and defeat a number of the Merovingian's guards. The Merovingian calls him the "Prodigal Child" returning and "Judas", suggesting that Seraph betrayed the Merovingian to serve the Oracle. He also calls Seraph "L'ange sans ses ailes", which is French for "The angel without its wings."
Seraph summons either Niobe or her First Mate Ghost to meet the Oracle. Whoever he summons, he first tests that person with another battle, in order to "test his/her heart's resolve" (or, more technically, a Challenge-response authentication - CHAP).
(In computing, the Challenge-Handshake Authentication Protocol (CHAP) authenticates a user or network host to an authenticating entity.)
(Ghost is described by the Wachowskis as an "ascetic Buddhist killer". A student of philosophy, he quotes and/or refers to Hume, William James, Nietzsche and especially Kierkegaard. Ghost's name may be a reference to the phrase "ghost in the machine", which describes the concept of mind-body dualism.
Due to copyright issues with Anthony Wong, Ghost is bald and has been completely shaven of all facial hair)
//for to open up mind extent of possible considerations
Fishing touch:
In Chapter 6.3, Sati has been kidnapped by the General's commandos after a lengthy observation, with Seraph attempting to rescue her, only to end up falling into the river. In Chapter 7.1, it was revealed that Seraph has managed to swim out of the river, but has been altered as a result of the disposal of the cheat codes of the Unlimited chapter by Agents into the Aqueduct. He attacked various red pills and blue pills, absorbing, altering, or deleting something within their code. This has recently been revealed to be releasing the attacked individuals from an overwritten personality by the Machines, much like Agent Smith overwrote Bane and others in Reloaded and Revolutions. His most significant target was Cryptos, leader of the Cypherite faction, in which he unsuccessfully removed over a year's worth of reprogramming. Cryptos eventually settled into a mixture of his former, radical anti-Machine personality and his calmer, passive self.
Another side effect of the polluted code bath Seraph took was that he could detect the General's Elite Commandos, despite their suits that "cloaked" them within the Matrix code against scans. Zion used this new-found ability to track down and re-capture Sati, who promptly returned the rapidly deteriorating weather systems to their normal states
place that is neither the Matrix nor the Machine world: a construct created by the Trainman
Re Ending
Upon Smith's destruction at Neo's hands, all the programs and minds that Smith has infiltrated are freed from his influence, including Seraph's. He meets the Oracle in a park as Sati creates a beautiful sunrise in Neo's honor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merovingian_%28The_Matrix%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wachowskis
There is not much revealed about the Merovingian's origin, but from what both he and the Oracle say, he was a program made to regulate behavior amongst the "Bluepills" and report back with results. After the collapse of the first Matrix, he became obsolete[1] as the newer versions presented an illusion of choice to the hard-wired humans, causing the behavioral manipulation to be more indirect than the Merovingian's more straightforward methods.
Instead of accepting deletion, he retreated into the programming of the Matrix, disguised as a human, and resolved to aid other programs who have become obsolete. He is seen as a hero to exiled programs, and as an impulsive and selfish opportunist to others. He is disillusioned by the idea of choice amongst humans, which resulted in his program becoming obsolete in the Matrix, and believes that the only governing principle of the universe is that of cause and effect
In The Matrix Revolutions, Morpheus and Trinity learn from the Oracle that the Merovingian has put a price on their heads for taking the Keymaker from him. Accompanied by Seraph, they enter the decadent Club Hel to bargain with him for the release of Neo, who has become trapped in a gateway between the Matrix and the Machine world. The Merovingian offers to free him in exchange for the Oracle's eyes; an irritated Trinity responds by initiating a Mexican standoff, putting a gun to his head and threatening to kill him unless he lets Neo go - a deal that the Merovingian accepts.
Extra:
Seraph
----
he claims he isn't allied with any of the three Factions, that he protects the Oracle and Sati - and that he will use force to protect them if need be.
Seraph is a biblical allusion to the first of nine orders of angels, the Seraphim (singular Seraph). This allusion is also evidenced by the fire-like appearance of Seraph when Neo sees him in his coded form. It is also hinted when the Merovingian's guards state that he is "wingless." The word 'seraph' comes from the Hebrew word saraph meaning 'burning one'.
His skills as a warrior are unmatched by any one in the Matrix, considering he was originally an Agent himself, along with the super strength and speed that comes with that purpose. Despite not having his wings, Seraph is still able to hyperjump beyond the range of many exiles and red pills.
During the assault on Hel's gates, Seraph is referred as "wingless", by one of the guards and the Merovingian refers to him as "his protégé". The three make their way to the club and defeat a number of the Merovingian's guards. The Merovingian calls him the "Prodigal Child" returning and "Judas", suggesting that Seraph betrayed the Merovingian to serve the Oracle. He also calls Seraph "L'ange sans ses ailes", which is French for "The angel without its wings."
Seraph summons either Niobe or her First Mate Ghost to meet the Oracle. Whoever he summons, he first tests that person with another battle, in order to "test his/her heart's resolve" (or, more technically, a Challenge-response authentication - CHAP).
(In computing, the Challenge-Handshake Authentication Protocol (CHAP) authenticates a user or network host to an authenticating entity.)
(Ghost is described by the Wachowskis as an "ascetic Buddhist killer". A student of philosophy, he quotes and/or refers to Hume, William James, Nietzsche and especially Kierkegaard. Ghost's name may be a reference to the phrase "ghost in the machine", which describes the concept of mind-body dualism.
Due to copyright issues with Anthony Wong, Ghost is bald and has been completely shaven of all facial hair)
//for to open up mind extent of possible considerations
Fishing touch:
In Chapter 6.3, Sati has been kidnapped by the General's commandos after a lengthy observation, with Seraph attempting to rescue her, only to end up falling into the river. In Chapter 7.1, it was revealed that Seraph has managed to swim out of the river, but has been altered as a result of the disposal of the cheat codes of the Unlimited chapter by Agents into the Aqueduct. He attacked various red pills and blue pills, absorbing, altering, or deleting something within their code. This has recently been revealed to be releasing the attacked individuals from an overwritten personality by the Machines, much like Agent Smith overwrote Bane and others in Reloaded and Revolutions. His most significant target was Cryptos, leader of the Cypherite faction, in which he unsuccessfully removed over a year's worth of reprogramming. Cryptos eventually settled into a mixture of his former, radical anti-Machine personality and his calmer, passive self.
Another side effect of the polluted code bath Seraph took was that he could detect the General's Elite Commandos, despite their suits that "cloaked" them within the Matrix code against scans. Zion used this new-found ability to track down and re-capture Sati, who promptly returned the rapidly deteriorating weather systems to their normal states
place that is neither the Matrix nor the Machine world: a construct created by the Trainman
Re Ending
Upon Smith's destruction at Neo's hands, all the programs and minds that Smith has infiltrated are freed from his influence, including Seraph's. He meets the Oracle in a park as Sati creates a beautiful sunrise in Neo's honor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merovingian_%28The_Matrix%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wachowskis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merovingian_%28The_Matrix%29
2 September 2014 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on Agnostic Atheist Anti-Theist Foundation's post.
Its actually a crime to hide bible from children so they would be unable to evolve in to higher realms of creation.
2 September 2014 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on Agnostic Atheist Anti-Theist Foundation's link.
Finally!
But that will happen sooner or even sooner globally anyway if we want to survive as species.
But that will happen sooner or even sooner globally anyway if we want to survive as species.
2 September 2014 15:20
Margus Meigo commented on Agnostic Atheist Anti-Theist Foundation's post.
TO stay inside the plan you silly! :D
You can be part of the plan or perish for real,
Even if you do wish to imagine, that you can just perish for real, with no punishment of new round of sin life ... then at least do rest of us a pleasure and THINK only good
in your brain that you so hard try to control
and to use only this one according to "earth corporate academic sciences "
like fastest "speed" is the slowness of light and all the rest of low level thinking.
some taste of proper LSD or Magic Mushrooms to make un evolved (love free) illusions perish would be to much to ask
You can be part of the plan or perish for real,
Even if you do wish to imagine, that you can just perish for real, with no punishment of new round of sin life ... then at least do rest of us a pleasure and THINK only good
in your brain that you so hard try to control
and to use only this one according to "earth corporate academic sciences "
like fastest "speed" is the slowness of light and all the rest of low level thinking.
some taste of proper LSD or Magic Mushrooms to make un evolved (love free) illusions perish would be to much to ask
2 September 2014 15:18
Margus Meigo commented on Agnostic Atheist Anti-Theist Foundation's link.
Why would people confuse people wearing ties with religion all the time ?
Have you not read bible?
oh, useless question
Have you not read bible?
oh, useless question
2 September 2014 15:10
Margus Meigo commented on Agnostic Atheist Anti-Theist Foundation's post.
Really happy, way more longer time happy then any other one who imagines that their actions and thoughts are private.
2 September 2014 15:09
Margus Meigo commented on Agnostic Atheist Anti-Theist Foundation's photo.
Say guy who made shows to kill animals with electric to control people mind with fear.
How come there is all this nice looking pictures and quotes from him and so little about what kind of creed and corporate control supporter he was.
Is not like he actually was so smart like we are lead to think in school.
We just think so low terms in school, that is the reason he seems so smart, for some time
How come there is all this nice looking pictures and quotes from him and so little about what kind of creed and corporate control supporter he was.
Is not like he actually was so smart like we are lead to think in school.
We just think so low terms in school, that is the reason he seems so smart, for some time
2 September 2014 15:06
Margus Meigo commented on Agnostic Atheist Anti-Theist Foundation's photo.
Awesome, her mother is Shona princess (Zimbabwe, and southern Mozambique) and she give home birth to all her children : )
She knows how to live, no need religion to her as She is not fighting with it.
She knows how to live, no need religion to her as She is not fighting with it.
2 September 2014 15:01
Margus Meigo commented on Agnostic Atheist Anti-Theist Foundation's post.
Why should women do man dirty work ? Why should we trick women in to places also where should be no people first at all.
Man need to run and guide man (to learn how to serve Nature), women by Nature already knows how to live as its way superior species to man. If female grows up in natural surrounding she will inherit easily all life skills and care needed to support life.
I think She might be the closest contact to Creator that man can have.
Man need to run and guide man (to learn how to serve Nature), women by Nature already knows how to live as its way superior species to man. If female grows up in natural surrounding she will inherit easily all life skills and care needed to support life.
I think She might be the closest contact to Creator that man can have.
2 September 2014 14:49
Margus Meigo commented on Agnostic Atheist Anti-Theist Foundation's photo.
the All ones
2 September 2014 14:45
Margus Meigo commented on Agnostic Atheist Anti-Theist Foundation's photo.
"When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed."
but if religion is the truth, then what worth there would be for people who step against All humans and Nature ?
Anyone is critical to this statement takes assumption that its wrong to protect life (religion), before thinking why or how it can be right from the point of view of Galactic Authority.
Oh, some of us do not want to realize the existence of another life forms, spirits and species superior to humans. So yeah, then its kind of complicated to see Galactic Authority points of view.
People them self put down animals all the time who they think are danger for others and for them self.
( some human body try to put down all the rest of the living species as well but that is matter that takes more effort to go in to.)
but if religion is the truth, then what worth there would be for people who step against All humans and Nature ?
Anyone is critical to this statement takes assumption that its wrong to protect life (religion), before thinking why or how it can be right from the point of view of Galactic Authority.
Oh, some of us do not want to realize the existence of another life forms, spirits and species superior to humans. So yeah, then its kind of complicated to see Galactic Authority points of view.
People them self put down animals all the time who they think are danger for others and for them self.
( some human body try to put down all the rest of the living species as well but that is matter that takes more effort to go in to.)
2 September 2014 14:45
Margus Meigo commented on Agnostic Atheist Anti-Theist Foundation's link.
I think it would be good at minimum to have planetary religion and state used as tools to protect the people who fail to tune in to the truth
2 September 2014 14:33
Margus Meigo commented on Agnostic Atheist Anti-Theist Foundation's photo.
just guessing thought
2 September 2014 14:31
Margus Meigo commented on Agnostic Atheist Anti-Theist Foundation's photo.
Most people have hard tome to admit some time more, that EU and American flags have more five stars on then the other ones.
Yes, the IS a reason that the US military and soviet tanks have same five stars on their central symbolism, HOW can we miss that one is mass scale ?
If one would only know, that the Atheism is one of the tools of same aimed group of spirits as Communists.
There is reason why communists outlawed Christmas in Europe (long before its comerizicalation, that is another tool for destruction from other side of coin)
Yes, the IS a reason that the US military and soviet tanks have same five stars on their central symbolism, HOW can we miss that one is mass scale ?
If one would only know, that the Atheism is one of the tools of same aimed group of spirits as Communists.
There is reason why communists outlawed Christmas in Europe (long before its comerizicalation, that is another tool for destruction from other side of coin)
2 September 2014 14:00
Margus Meigo commented on Agnostic Atheist Anti-Theist Foundation's post.
I think atheism is by far more dangerous and dull as feminism on the communist populist package.
(in my view: True feminism and religion go hand to hand with spiritually )
when here is true religious spiritual monarchy then there is no room for self retardation, market competition, slavery and "western" nature destructive transhumanization roboization of human species. For the reasons of perfect male spirit control through "anarchic" dictatorship of slave owners.
We will get there but before this some of We can choose from two of my proposed options, what seems more appropriate for their survival.
(in my view: True feminism and religion go hand to hand with spiritually )
when here is true religious spiritual monarchy then there is no room for self retardation, market competition, slavery and "western" nature destructive transhumanization roboization of human species. For the reasons of perfect male spirit control through "anarchic" dictatorship of slave owners.
We will get there but before this some of We can choose from two of my proposed options, what seems more appropriate for their survival.
2 September 2014 13:54
Margus Meigo commented on Agnostic Atheist's post.
I support republicans as well and would vote against equal pay as i thought female needs at least 30% more for same work, and there is so many reasons why,
starting reason is that any work that women must do outside home is usually lack of man work,
Why would women need to get as little amount for job as man? Already most man get so little for their day job in majority of places that they even can not let women and three children to be home peaceful ways.
Also so many work require people to be away from the family and this is just mad, how can almost all the people work for someone else then their own friends and family? How did we end up here?
starting reason is that any work that women must do outside home is usually lack of man work,
Why would women need to get as little amount for job as man? Already most man get so little for their day job in majority of places that they even can not let women and three children to be home peaceful ways.
Also so many work require people to be away from the family and this is just mad, how can almost all the people work for someone else then their own friends and family? How did we end up here?
2 September 2014 13:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tell me about it? is it also directed by these Angels ?
(serious question, at first... and last)
(serious question, at first... and last)
2 September 2014 02:20
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Häkkinen's link.
Unite to become Nature people
2 September 2014 02:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Eestimaa liblikad
Tõsi ta on,
Maipõrnika vastne - konutõuk, elab 4-5 aastaseks,
vau, täitsa meeltest läinud, et tõugud ka nii vanaks elavad.
http://www.kalapeedia.ee/maipornikas-ja-tema-vastne.html
Parandan omal videos ka selle info ära, ma ühe sama suure aga karvases hallis kotis leidsin mesitaru küljest, proovin selle ka postitada varsti.. see eriti oamspärane oli.. kuid ma kotist välja ei hakanud võtma.. sest vb ta ei tahtnud..http://www.kalapeedia.ee/maipornikas-ja-tema-vastne.html
1 September 2014 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on Piret FireFairy Meinberg's photo.
(jätkan janeki listi)
....kurbus pettumus raskus, valu, ellujäämis tahtmise võitlus..
....kurbus pettumus raskus, valu, ellujäämis tahtmise võitlus..
1 September 2014 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
Klassikaline
1 September 2014 17:56
Margus Meigo commented on Andrej Podbevšek's post.
Still makes us smile thought, thats the effect of the plant.. even if its industrial... even if its just picture in facebook.. still makes you smile., great plant : ))
1 September 2014 00:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Great to see ya Andrej smiled right away when saw your like ! : )))
i wish more people would have your version intelligence
i wish more people would have your version intelligence
1 September 2014 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on Jason Palmer's post.
Amen
1 September 2014 00:28
Margus Meigo commented on Nana Kojo's post.
i thought you eat it yourself
1 September 2014 00:25
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
well, for some reason, thought music would be apropriate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUGX99lLONw (you know He is from Harvard :D)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUGX99lLONw (you know He is from Harvard :D)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUGX99lLONw
31 August 2014 23:25
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
"this is straight" soulds lame as well.
specially these "straight edge" new edge kids who do not use drugs but wanna be "tuned in" as well
this is so gay
specially these "straight edge" new edge kids who do not use drugs but wanna be "tuned in" as well
this is so gay
31 August 2014 23:19
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
.
Look there is two homos dancing raining man..
THis is so Gay!
Hey, Nockit off !!!
Look there is two homos dancing raining man..
THis is so Gay!
Hey, Nockit off !!!
31 August 2014 23:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
This is TED not a payd stand up. I do not think no one is paynd people there.
And sh is more about education really.
And .. if not cash what should she take for her job, food stamps ?
And sh is more about education really.
And .. if not cash what should she take for her job, food stamps ?
31 August 2014 04:12
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's link.
but they do not allow to comment on it it seems from my account,
had idea about spiritual porn few many years ago.. perhaps i can team in with these feminist porn people :P
had idea about spiritual porn few many years ago.. perhaps i can team in with these feminist porn people :P
31 August 2014 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's link.
found one other good article from there http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/feminist-porn-sex-is-about-female-pleasure-too-9592547.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/feminist-porn-sex-is-about-female-pleasure-too-9592547.html
31 August 2014 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
this is good one, thanks for reminding
31 August 2014 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
No fascist actually cared for their children
31 August 2014 01:21
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
for sure we have to fallow womens rules, thats basic :D
But yea.. we our self just have to fallow these women who fallow Nature laws as well.. or we can walk away, i guess
But yea.. we our self just have to fallow these women who fallow Nature laws as well.. or we can walk away, i guess
31 August 2014 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on Tantsutrupp Zahira's photo.
täiega kohe, teismelised :p
30 August 2014 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yes, thats why we made bible
after 2000 years of chaning cultures, language and translations... they still complety failed to pervert the main messages in this greation... ...as they lack the truth they did not know what to change how really :D
sad in some way, we can help, many ways
after 2000 years of chaning cultures, language and translations... they still complety failed to pervert the main messages in this greation... ...as they lack the truth they did not know what to change how really :D
sad in some way, we can help, many ways
30 August 2014 23:42
Margus Meigo commented on Rebel Circus's photo.
"...in the form of LSD to the freezer.."
30 August 2014 23:30
Margus Meigo commented on Rebel Circus's photo.
man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-gC3hnN0YE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-gC3hnN0YE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-gC3hnN0YE
30 August 2014 23:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
She was jokng not about matters of important but rising up waluable topics in peoples heart
30 August 2014 22:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
lets hope Her mans also become smart enought in near future to know what She really wanted from them..
30 August 2014 21:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Actually She is really good on this one, speaking from the heart..
30 August 2014 21:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nice, i look that in same webserver where is your website is this guys site: http://www.williamhaycock.co.uk/ the warning was: "It appears that the web server located at 88.208.252.137 may be hosting one or more web sites with explicit content" xD .... just becouse guys name probabaly
BUt yea... we need to build a real tools as well in the end... or at least get a wife : )
BUt yea... we need to build a real tools as well in the end... or at least get a wife : )
http://www.williamhaycock.co.uk/
30 August 2014 19:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yeah, especialy if one of the tools is time and wind..water..
(actualy allowed to use as tools, not really a tools.. as tools are for man, only)
(actualy allowed to use as tools, not really a tools.. as tools are for man, only)
30 August 2014 19:13
Margus Meigo commented on Helen Perrault Newby's photo.
Just get used to it and thinkk, do what is needed, then its comfurting, that they waching, hopefully ... they care : )
30 August 2014 19:11
Margus Meigo commented on Helen Perrault Newby's photo.
Actualy there is always someone waching but just sometimes there is more then someone ...
it would be crazy to think that no one is knowing your thoughts or can not access your past.
it would be crazy to think that no one is knowing your thoughts or can not access your past.
30 August 2014 19:11
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
i think Orwell was good actually, but hes stuff is to advanced to read easily right way with current mass stream alternative brains who fail to incorporate religion and magic, and nature
30 August 2014 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
yeah all that literatule is one of the rulers favorite for using dumb down people
as they say so big and epic storyes about epic things .. but fail to mention anything about what All of this is here about, the humans who are inflatrated to fight against nature, the magic plants, the Femine, the true Religions.. none of that... just some spark up to go and start to fight against "elite" ... and often these people are just sent to go and remove the last strong god people there is left .. between proper killers and criminals who are to dark to even mention in Any newspapber withe out removal of all people involved in article
as they say so big and epic storyes about epic things .. but fail to mention anything about what All of this is here about, the humans who are inflatrated to fight against nature, the magic plants, the Femine, the true Religions.. none of that... just some spark up to go and start to fight against "elite" ... and often these people are just sent to go and remove the last strong god people there is left .. between proper killers and criminals who are to dark to even mention in Any newspapber withe out removal of all people involved in article
30 August 2014 18:35
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
besides the spy stuff,
But yea, keep eye on that russian website, there is some good stuff sometimes there:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.londonru.com%2F%25D0%25B1%25D1%2580%25D0%25B8%25D1%2582%25D0%25B0%25D0%25BD%25D1%2581%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B8%25D0%25B5-%25D1%2581%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B5%25D1%2586%25D1%2581%25D0%25BB%25D1%2583%25D0%25B6%25D0%25B1%25D1%258B%2F&edit-text=&act=url
But yea, keep eye on that russian website, there is some good stuff sometimes there:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.londonru.com%2F%25D0%25B1%25D1%2580%25D0%25B8%25D1%2582%25D0%25B0%25D0%25BD%25D1%2581%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B8%25D0%25B5-%25D1%2581%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B5%25D1%2586%25D1%2581%25D0%25BB%25D1%2583%25D0%25B6%25D0%25B1%25D1%258B%2F&edit-text=&act=url
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.londonru.com%2F%25D0%25B1%25D1%2580%25D0%25B8%25D1%2582%25D0%25B0%25D0%25BD%25D1%2581%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B8%25D0%25B5-%25D1%2581%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B5%25D1%2586%25D1%2581%25D0%25BB%25D1%2583%25D0%25B6%25D0%25B1%25D1%258B%2F&edit-text&act=url
30 August 2014 18:34
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
how can i work FOR Kapo :D
30 August 2014 18:23
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
we can help Kapo if they are on need what is on line with what Nature needs
30 August 2014 18:23
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
at sime time russia media: "British intelligence agencies are invited to work gay spies."
But i think they have small clich on ""would you tell anyone else about your application" on sceme
"British intelligence agencies say that the world of espionage is more commonplace than it seems from the outside. That is why they need a "sensitive" employees gay."
Speaking of elations both secret services to employees of gays has changed markedly during the long period of time is not. Until the mid-1990s, homosexuals do not take a job in the Foreign Service or the Secret Service security, citing the fact that they are more vulnerable to blackmail by a potential enemy.
But there were exceptions to the rule.
Two members of the famous Cambridge Five spies working for the Soviet Union in the 1940s and 50s, were gay. Another fag Guy Burgess, who worked in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and MI 6, lived with a friend even after he moved to Moscow in 1951.
Anthony Blunt, MI5 officer and a leading critic, also had a secret gay.
Recent events in Ukraine have clearly shown that the notorious human rights, democratic values, rule of law and the legitimacy of government, and went into oblivion. From the West blew new winds, while blue, but on the order of red, crimson red as blood.
And finally, a useful tip for those who do decide to respond to the proposal MI-6.
With the policy of total savings in the United Kingdom as the British security services and all other organizations are experiencing fiscal deficit and forced to economize on everything. In addition to the secret services employ people not trusting, an assertion of belonging to the gay community may not be enough, so the candidates to be invited for an interview, it would
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.londonru.com%2F%25D0%25B1%25D1%2580%25D0%25B8%25D1%2582%25D0%25B0%25D0%25BD%25D1%2581%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B8%25D0%25B5-%25D1%2581%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B5%25D1%2586%25D1%2581%25D0%25BB%25D1%2583%25D0%25B6%25D0%25B1%25D1%258B%2F&edit-text=&act=url
But i think they have small clich on ""would you tell anyone else about your application" on sceme
"British intelligence agencies say that the world of espionage is more commonplace than it seems from the outside. That is why they need a "sensitive" employees gay."
Speaking of elations both secret services to employees of gays has changed markedly during the long period of time is not. Until the mid-1990s, homosexuals do not take a job in the Foreign Service or the Secret Service security, citing the fact that they are more vulnerable to blackmail by a potential enemy.
But there were exceptions to the rule.
Two members of the famous Cambridge Five spies working for the Soviet Union in the 1940s and 50s, were gay. Another fag Guy Burgess, who worked in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and MI 6, lived with a friend even after he moved to Moscow in 1951.
Anthony Blunt, MI5 officer and a leading critic, also had a secret gay.
Recent events in Ukraine have clearly shown that the notorious human rights, democratic values, rule of law and the legitimacy of government, and went into oblivion. From the West blew new winds, while blue, but on the order of red, crimson red as blood.
And finally, a useful tip for those who do decide to respond to the proposal MI-6.
With the policy of total savings in the United Kingdom as the British security services and all other organizations are experiencing fiscal deficit and forced to economize on everything. In addition to the secret services employ people not trusting, an assertion of belonging to the gay community may not be enough, so the candidates to be invited for an interview, it would
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.londonru.com%2F%25D0%25B1%25D1%2580%25D0%25B8%25D1%2582%25D0%25B0%25D0%25BD%25D1%2581%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B8%25D0%25B5-%25D1%2581%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B5%25D1%2586%25D1%2581%25D0%25BB%25D1%2583%25D0%25B6%25D0%25B1%25D1%258B%2F&edit-text=&act=url
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.londonru.com%2F%25D0%25B1%25D1%2580%25D0%25B8%25D1%2582%25D0%25B0%25D0%25BD%25D1%2581%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B8%25D0%25B5-%25D1%2581%25D0%25BF%25D0%25B5%25D1%2586%25D1%2581%25D0%25BB%25D1%2583%25D0%25B6%25D0%25B1%25D1%258B%2F&edit-text&act=url
30 August 2014 18:08
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
" where your skills best lie" well, my skills only best tell truth, so have to pass as well.
but seems they hire fags openly as well, so no so fashist after all
http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/equality/sexualorientation all 5 stars n stuff
but seems they hire fags openly as well, so no so fashist after all
http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/equality/sexualorientation all 5 stars n stuff
http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/equality/sexualorientation
30 August 2014 18:02
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
hahahhaahahhaahahahhahahaahhaaaaaaaaaaaaa :D::D:DD:D (Y)
this is like the best thing i saw today besides trance tancing washing machine https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=4440241301975 and new airforce https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Penetrative-Intercourse-INC/282699465250613?fref=ts
this is like the best thing i saw today besides trance tancing washing machine https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=4440241301975 and new airforce https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Penetrative-Intercourse-INC/282699465250613?fref=ts
30 August 2014 17:58
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Ma pole varem pesumasinapeale elus naernutki, ega üldse masina peale vist.
See trance teema sobis nagu kala püksi taskusse
See trance teema sobis nagu kala püksi taskusse
30 August 2014 17:50
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
about US military
is important to go all the way and to not pull out to early
is important to go all the way and to not pull out to early
30 August 2014 17:44
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
yeah, belive in yourself that you will keep beliving in to Creator, Nature and Women
30 August 2014 17:34
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
Wau, oot kust need tulid ja kuhu läksid.
Looja nii lahe, kui laseb lindudel käituda nagu nii lihtsalt nagu inimesed siis meil see selline suur "wau" ... kuid kui me rohkem oskaks lindudelt õppida seda mida päriselt vaja me liigil..
Looja nii lahe, kui laseb lindudel käituda nagu nii lihtsalt nagu inimesed siis meil see selline suur "wau" ... kuid kui me rohkem oskaks lindudelt õppida seda mida päriselt vaja me liigil..
30 August 2014 17:30
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
HEy Hey Hey
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152596144984148
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152596144984148
30 August 2014 17:26
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Irjas-Kopli's photo.
Nii terve olemisega laps! : ))
30 August 2014 17:06
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
need eriti head asjad
29 August 2014 23:06
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
and email was about driving safety as well, but at least..
am mean, are they serious ?
am mean, are they serious ?
29 August 2014 22:54
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
i kind of still not regretting for looking this but just left to steer screen for few seconds,
do not even want to start to think all these things they use in these days.. its be oon reaction
do not even want to start to think all these things they use in these days.. its be oon reaction
29 August 2014 22:47
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
väga timm :D
29 August 2014 22:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://desktop-download.mendeley.com/download/apt/pool/main/m/mendeleydesktop/mendeleydesktop_1.12-stable_i386.deb
29 August 2014 22:26
Margus Meigo commented on Áslaug Kristinsdóttir's post.
Sina ? Sinu?
29 August 2014 19:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
at same tame gossip:
"It has been rumored for quite some time that the economic powers in the world, namely the Bank for International Settlements, The International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank have been working closely with most of the worlds countries on an economic reset."
"The idea behind the reset is to prevent a complete collapse of the banking industry worldwide. When one calculates the amount of debt in the world today, the instability of the whole system is obvious.
So the main components of a reset will consist of a global currency revaluation, a new gold trade settlement system, and improved banking regulations to increase a banks assets and decrease their liabilities. The Bank for International Settlements has been slowly and quietly implementing these new regulations, Basel 1, Basel 2, and Basel 3. So banks decreasing their liabilities (less leveraging) means a contraction or reduction in the credit supply.
Since credit is another way of saying debt, we can reason that the plan is to have less debt in the world economy. So what happens when every dollar in circulation is a debt dollar? (it already is) How do you reduce debt without decreasing economic growth? "
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/01/china-to-purchase-the-federal-reserve-2879466.html
.. umm bitcoin :p
"It has been rumored for quite some time that the economic powers in the world, namely the Bank for International Settlements, The International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank have been working closely with most of the worlds countries on an economic reset."
"The idea behind the reset is to prevent a complete collapse of the banking industry worldwide. When one calculates the amount of debt in the world today, the instability of the whole system is obvious.
So the main components of a reset will consist of a global currency revaluation, a new gold trade settlement system, and improved banking regulations to increase a banks assets and decrease their liabilities. The Bank for International Settlements has been slowly and quietly implementing these new regulations, Basel 1, Basel 2, and Basel 3. So banks decreasing their liabilities (less leveraging) means a contraction or reduction in the credit supply.
Since credit is another way of saying debt, we can reason that the plan is to have less debt in the world economy. So what happens when every dollar in circulation is a debt dollar? (it already is) How do you reduce debt without decreasing economic growth? "
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/01/china-to-purchase-the-federal-reserve-2879466.html
.. umm bitcoin :p
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/01/china-to-purchase-the-federal-reserve-2879466.html
29 August 2014 15:39
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
but what you can do... is love all the ones you know are worth and do feel they do better later on...
29 August 2014 14:02
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
mis mõttes, nagu video pealt näha oli siis see valgus polnutki säält kust poolt päike oli v .D
päris hea
päris hea
29 August 2014 13:13
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
ma jumalast kindel, osadel "valitsuse" töötajatel, just umbes-täpselt selline hoiatus ongi raamatus
29 August 2014 12:51
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's photo.
mingi nagu suts appu näoga "mis see maailm nende inimestega ikka vel genereerib seda.. ..et paha hakkab"
29 August 2014 12:48
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's photo.
Eriti pudja kehaehitus selle pildi pealt, peaks ka vihtlema, ehk saan torso paremaks :D
29 August 2014 12:47
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
"me to, me 2" says the second, and third one..
29 August 2014 12:46
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
(wait few seconds...)
29 August 2014 12:46
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
my attachment is truth, but its still dependency,attachment... that is filled by self desire
even if the desire is to not to desire... still must be a bit ..
how to say... well, when i get smarter on it will return to my sentence :D
even if the desire is to not to desire... still must be a bit ..
how to say... well, when i get smarter on it will return to my sentence :D
29 August 2014 12:45
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
see päris kõva teema
29 August 2014 12:44
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
ja teistele siis jagada mida?
Tänapäeva kaameratega pole mingi vabandus nii lahjasi pilte teha
Tänapäeva kaameratega pole mingi vabandus nii lahjasi pilte teha
29 August 2014 12:43
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
niija nüüd küsi endalt.. kas see kes selle pildi lapse peast tegi, kas ta peale seda pani kaamera käest ja läks ja mattis maha selle lapse
või jagas siiraid sügavaid palveid vähemalt ning andis au... või pold see tema jaoks nii oluline ja vaatas mis muud pildile saaks?
või jagas siiraid sügavaid palveid vähemalt ning andis au... või pold see tema jaoks nii oluline ja vaatas mis muud pildile saaks?
29 August 2014 12:43
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
ilus pilt kui kugi nii ilusa tüdruku suhu see vist ei sobi.. kuigi meil vast oleks vaja küll süüa seda hoolega, et sellistest silmade suurustest aru saada
29 August 2014 12:35
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
loodetavasti hästi (ja kui sa HAKKASid midagi tegema, eriti veel teistmoodi.. siis see ju vast ongi muutus..)
29 August 2014 12:33
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
see selle tegelase ganeriist vast kes mu lehel, tal nagu eriti häid loodus fotosi, tsekka järgi
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Vyacheslav-Mishchenko/425528437562422?ref=profile
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Vyacheslav-Mishchenko/425528437562422?ref=profile
facebook.com
Vyacheslav Mishchenko
29 August 2014 12:32
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
nu jah, ütle seda elevandile Topsy
29 August 2014 12:31
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
nujah ega internet selleks ongi
29 August 2014 12:30
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
and he knows, as he wears tie
kuid yeah, poisil oli ka õigus tegelt kuid suuremas plaanis (vast)
kuid yeah, poisil oli ka õigus tegelt kuid suuremas plaanis (vast)
29 August 2014 12:29
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
nu jah ja siis sellisele õpetatakse varsti, et pead lipsu kandma ning sellega kaasnevat
29 August 2014 12:28
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Ka ta mitte oma nime selle järgi saanud, et see segadus tähendab?
ehehe.. ei nu nagu ühes LauTzu multiaks muidu toodi teda välja kui tegelt omamoodi ampelmanni kes süva tõdede asemel lihtrahava populistlike asju kokku kloppsis.. või miskit sellist
ehehe.. ei nu nagu ühes LauTzu multiaks muidu toodi teda välja kui tegelt omamoodi ampelmanni kes süva tõdede asemel lihtrahava populistlike asju kokku kloppsis.. või miskit sellist
29 August 2014 12:27
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
minu arust suurt vahet pole nende kahe pildi vahel ja just selle pärast, et seda nii nägime.. see nii ongi
29 August 2014 12:23
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
see tõsi ka
29 August 2014 12:22
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
(ses mõttes kuhu suundume, hingelises mõttes noh)
Kuid eelkõige see ikka nende kümnete millionite õlul need valitsuse probleemid, kes valitsuse heaks töötavad ja keda ei huvita (all töövõtjad jne).
Süsteemi suurus on nagu nii palju üle pea inimestelt, et nad vist päris ei mõista, mis tähendab juba inimvalitsuse suurus (ainuüksi ameerikas on millionites http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/data-analysis-documentation/federal-employment-reports/#url=Historical-Tables ... eriteenistuse eri oskustega inimesi juba sadades tuhandetes, need kes omakorda saavad käsklusi anda politsei ja armee jõududele, ja see kõigest inim struktuur (mitte, et ta kõik nii inimene nüüd oleks..))
Kuid eelkõige see ikka nende kümnete millionite õlul need valitsuse probleemid, kes valitsuse heaks töötavad ja keda ei huvita (all töövõtjad jne).
Süsteemi suurus on nagu nii palju üle pea inimestelt, et nad vist päris ei mõista, mis tähendab juba inimvalitsuse suurus (ainuüksi ameerikas on millionites http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/data-analysis-documentation/federal-employment-reports/#url=Historical-Tables ... eriteenistuse eri oskustega inimesi juba sadades tuhandetes, need kes omakorda saavad käsklusi anda politsei ja armee jõududele, ja see kõigest inim struktuur (mitte, et ta kõik nii inimene nüüd oleks..))
http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/data-analysis-documentation/federal-employment-reports/#url=Historical-Tables
29 August 2014 12:18
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
või õigemini nende sisemus tuleb muuta selle lähedasemaks kuhu suundume, pole mõtet väljavahetada sadu tuhandeid, millioneid inimesi, ja ebaloogiline ka, et see juhtuda saaks vaikselt ja reaalselt, sedamoodi, et arukad sinna asemele saaks
29 August 2014 10:38
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
kuid koerale kõrval ei anna midagi
29 August 2014 10:30
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
armas
29 August 2014 10:09
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
....and replaced with proper religious people
29 August 2014 10:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"This egg, both ends of which are equal, and whose length is 1-7th of a millimeter, is so far remarkable, that it is found in the single individual sent by Mr. Crosse, as if chance had intended to furnish us with a material proof of the manner of reproduction, well known among the Acarians, of this acarus which is thought to be produced at pleasure, without a mother preceding it, and by the aid only of elementary molecules floating in the space.
From a sort of elongated narrow breast bone proceed eight appendicular locomotive members, joined and directed, the four anterior ones before, and the four posterior ones behind. They are all composed of the same number of pieces; but one thing which may be remarked in many insects, arachnids and crustaces, the two pair of anterior paws are shorter, thicker, and more robust than the inferior ones, which are longer, and at the same time more thin. This difference, scarcely perceptible in the acari of cheese and meal, is very great in the acarus of the human scab, when, without an attentive examination, we should be almost tempted to see different organs in the two posterior pair of paws, which, in fact, are only rudimentary.
Each of the eight limbs of the acarus sent by Mr. Crosse, was formed of seven joints, exclusive of the tarsus.."
I just like the way of scription, thats why i copy
From a sort of elongated narrow breast bone proceed eight appendicular locomotive members, joined and directed, the four anterior ones before, and the four posterior ones behind. They are all composed of the same number of pieces; but one thing which may be remarked in many insects, arachnids and crustaces, the two pair of anterior paws are shorter, thicker, and more robust than the inferior ones, which are longer, and at the same time more thin. This difference, scarcely perceptible in the acari of cheese and meal, is very great in the acarus of the human scab, when, without an attentive examination, we should be almost tempted to see different organs in the two posterior pair of paws, which, in fact, are only rudimentary.
Each of the eight limbs of the acarus sent by Mr. Crosse, was formed of seven joints, exclusive of the tarsus.."
I just like the way of scription, thats why i copy
28 August 2014 16:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Crosse was an early pioneer and experimenter in the use of electricity, and one of the last of the "gentlemen scientists"
Crosse also wrote a great many poems and enjoyed walking on the Quantock Hills, in which Fyne Court is set, "at all hours of day and night, in all seasons".
Crosse advocated the benefits of education for the lower classes, argued against emigration, and supported a campaign by local farmers against falling food prices and high taxes during the 1820s. He was also active in party politics, speaking in support of friends at election meetings
Crosse married Mary Anne Hamilton in 1809. They had seven children, although three died in childhood. Mary died in 1846 following several years of ill health.
On 22 July 1850 Crosse married again, aged 66. His second wife was the 23-year-old Cornelia Augusta Hewett Berkeley. They went on to have three children
He died on 6 July 1855, in the same room in which he had been born.
Crosse also wrote a great many poems and enjoyed walking on the Quantock Hills, in which Fyne Court is set, "at all hours of day and night, in all seasons".
Crosse advocated the benefits of education for the lower classes, argued against emigration, and supported a campaign by local farmers against falling food prices and high taxes during the 1820s. He was also active in party politics, speaking in support of friends at election meetings
Crosse married Mary Anne Hamilton in 1809. They had seven children, although three died in childhood. Mary died in 1846 following several years of ill health.
On 22 July 1850 Crosse married again, aged 66. His second wife was the 23-year-old Cornelia Augusta Hewett Berkeley. They went on to have three children
He died on 6 July 1855, in the same room in which he had been born.
28 August 2014 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Other scientists tried to repeat the experiment. W. H. Weeks took extensive measures to assure a sealed environment by placing his experiment inside a bell jar. He obtained the same results as Crosse, but due to the controversy that Crosse's experiment had sparked his work was never published.
Crosse did not claim that he had created the insects. He assumed that there were insect eggs embedded in his samples. Later commentators agreed that the insects were probably cheese mites or dust mites that had contaminated Crosse's instruments.
From Sir own letters:
1st: I have not observed a formation of the insect, except on a moist and electrified surface, or under an electrified fluid. By this I do not mean to assert that electricity has anything to do with their birth, as I have not made a sufficient number of experiments to prove or disprove it; and besides, I have not taken those necessary precautions which present themselves even to an unscientific view. It is, however, my intention to repeat these experiments, by passing a stream of electricity through cylinders filled with various fluids under a glass receiver inverted over mercury, the greatest possible care being taken to shut out extraneous matter. Should there be those who blame me for not having done this before, to such I answer that, independent of a host of other hindrances, which it is not in my power to put aside, I have been closely pursuing a long train of experiments on the formation of crystalline matters by the electric agency, and now different modifications of the Voltaic battery, in which I am so interested, that none but the ardent can conceive what is not in my power to describe.
2nd: These insects do not appear to have originated from others similar to themselves, as they are formed in all cases with access of moisture, and in some cases 2 inches below the surface of the fluid in which they are born; and if a full grown and perfect insect be let fall into any fluid, it is infallibly drowned.
3rd: I believe they live for many weeks: occasionally I have found them dead in groups, apparently from want of food.
4th: It has been frequently suggested to me to repeat these experiments without using the electric agency; but this would be by no means satisfactory, let the event be what it would. It is well know that saline matters are easily crystallized without subjecting them to the electric action; but it by no means follows that, because artificial electricity is used, such crystals are formed without the electric influence. I have made so many experiments on electrical crystallization, that I am firmly convinced in my own mind, that electric attraction is the cause of formation of every crystal whether artificial electricity be applied or not. I am, however, well aware of the difficulty of getting at the truth in these matters, and of separating cause from effect. It has often occurred to me, how it is that such numbers of animacules are produced in flour and water, in pepper and water? Also, the insects which infest fruits after a blight? Does not a chemical change take place in the water, and likewise in the sap of the tree previous to the appearance of these insects, and is or is not every chemical change produced by electric agency? In making these observations I seek to mislead no one. The book of Nature is opened wide to our view by the Almighty power, and we must endeavor, as far as our feeble faculties will permit, to make good use of it, always remembering, that however the timid may shrink from investigation, the more completely the secrets of nature are laid bare, the more effectually will be the power of that Great Being be manifested, who seems to have ordained that, "Order is Heaven’s first law".
I beg to remain, in the mean time, my dear Sir,
Yours, very sincerely,
Andrew Crosse
Broomfield, Dec. 27, 1837
Crosse did not claim that he had created the insects. He assumed that there were insect eggs embedded in his samples. Later commentators agreed that the insects were probably cheese mites or dust mites that had contaminated Crosse's instruments.
From Sir own letters:
1st: I have not observed a formation of the insect, except on a moist and electrified surface, or under an electrified fluid. By this I do not mean to assert that electricity has anything to do with their birth, as I have not made a sufficient number of experiments to prove or disprove it; and besides, I have not taken those necessary precautions which present themselves even to an unscientific view. It is, however, my intention to repeat these experiments, by passing a stream of electricity through cylinders filled with various fluids under a glass receiver inverted over mercury, the greatest possible care being taken to shut out extraneous matter. Should there be those who blame me for not having done this before, to such I answer that, independent of a host of other hindrances, which it is not in my power to put aside, I have been closely pursuing a long train of experiments on the formation of crystalline matters by the electric agency, and now different modifications of the Voltaic battery, in which I am so interested, that none but the ardent can conceive what is not in my power to describe.
2nd: These insects do not appear to have originated from others similar to themselves, as they are formed in all cases with access of moisture, and in some cases 2 inches below the surface of the fluid in which they are born; and if a full grown and perfect insect be let fall into any fluid, it is infallibly drowned.
3rd: I believe they live for many weeks: occasionally I have found them dead in groups, apparently from want of food.
4th: It has been frequently suggested to me to repeat these experiments without using the electric agency; but this would be by no means satisfactory, let the event be what it would. It is well know that saline matters are easily crystallized without subjecting them to the electric action; but it by no means follows that, because artificial electricity is used, such crystals are formed without the electric influence. I have made so many experiments on electrical crystallization, that I am firmly convinced in my own mind, that electric attraction is the cause of formation of every crystal whether artificial electricity be applied or not. I am, however, well aware of the difficulty of getting at the truth in these matters, and of separating cause from effect. It has often occurred to me, how it is that such numbers of animacules are produced in flour and water, in pepper and water? Also, the insects which infest fruits after a blight? Does not a chemical change take place in the water, and likewise in the sap of the tree previous to the appearance of these insects, and is or is not every chemical change produced by electric agency? In making these observations I seek to mislead no one. The book of Nature is opened wide to our view by the Almighty power, and we must endeavor, as far as our feeble faculties will permit, to make good use of it, always remembering, that however the timid may shrink from investigation, the more completely the secrets of nature are laid bare, the more effectually will be the power of that Great Being be manifested, who seems to have ordained that, "Order is Heaven’s first law".
I beg to remain, in the mean time, my dear Sir,
Yours, very sincerely,
Andrew Crosse
Broomfield, Dec. 27, 1837
28 August 2014 15:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
A few months after the meeting of the British Association for the Advancement of Science Crosse was conducting another electrocrystallization experiment when, on the 26th day of the experiment, he saw what he described as "the perfect insect, standing erect on a few bristles which formed its tail". More creatures appeared and two days later they began moving their legs. Over the next few weeks hundreds more appeared. They crawled around the table and hid themselves wherever they could find shelter. Crosse identified them as being members of the genus acarus.
Puzzled, Crosse mentioned the incident to a couple of friends.[2] He also sent the results to the London Electrical Society.[citation needed] A local newspaper learned of the incident and published an article about the "extraordinary experiment," naming the insects Acarus crossii. The article was subsequently picked up byother newspapers across the country and elsewhere in Europe. Some readers apparently gained the impression that Crosse had somehow "created" the insects, or at least claimed to have done so.[2] He received angry letters in which he was accused of blasphemy[2] and trying to take God's place as a creator. Some of them included death threats. Local farmers blamed him for the blight of the wheat crop and commissioned an exorcism in the nearby hills.[citation needed] Opposition to Crosse was so fanatical and visceral that he had to withdraw to the solitude of Fyne Court
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Crosse
Puzzled, Crosse mentioned the incident to a couple of friends.[2] He also sent the results to the London Electrical Society.[citation needed] A local newspaper learned of the incident and published an article about the "extraordinary experiment," naming the insects Acarus crossii. The article was subsequently picked up byother newspapers across the country and elsewhere in Europe. Some readers apparently gained the impression that Crosse had somehow "created" the insects, or at least claimed to have done so.[2] He received angry letters in which he was accused of blasphemy[2] and trying to take God's place as a creator. Some of them included death threats. Local farmers blamed him for the blight of the wheat crop and commissioned an exorcism in the nearby hills.[citation needed] Opposition to Crosse was so fanatical and visceral that he had to withdraw to the solitude of Fyne Court
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Crosse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Crosse
28 August 2014 15:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Along with Sir Humphry Davy (who visited Fyne Court in 1827), Crosse was one of the first to develop large voltaic piles.[3] Although it was not the largest he built, Henry Minchin Noad's Manual of Electricity describes a battery consisting of 50 jars containing 73 square feet (6.8 m2) of coated surface. Using his wires Crosse was able to charge and discharge it some 20 times a minute, "accompanied by reports almost as loud as those of a cannon".[2] He became known locally as "the thunder and lightning man". In 1836 Sir Richard Phillips described seeing a wide variety of voltaic piles at Fyne Court, totalling 2,500, of which 1,500 were in use when he visited
In 1836 Crosse was persuaded to attend a meeting of the British Association for the Advancement of Science in Bristol. After describing his discoveries over dinner at the house of a friend in Bristol, he was further persuaded to recount them to both the chemical and the geological sections of the meeting. They included his electrocrystallization and atmospheric experiments, and his improvements to the voltaic battery.[2]
Crosse went on to separate copper from its ores using electrolysis, experimented with the electrolysis of sea water, wine and brandy to purify them, and examined the effects of electricity on vegetation.[2] He was also interested in the practical uses of electricity and magnetism, including the development of loudspeakers and telegraphy[5] although he did not do research in these areas himself.In 1836 Crosse was persuaded to attend a meeting of the British Association for the Advancement of Science in Bristol. After describing his discoveries over dinner at the house of a friend in Bristol, he was further persuaded to recount them to both the chemical and the geological sections of the meeting. They included his electrocrystallization and atmospheric experiments, and his improvements to the voltaic battery.[2]
Crosse went on to separate copper from its ores using electrolysis, experimented with the electrolysis of sea water, wine and brandy to purify them, and examined the effects of electricity on vegetation.[2] He was also interested in the practical uses of electricity and magnetism, including the development of loudspeakers and telegraphy[5] although he did not do research in these areas himself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acarus
In 1836 Crosse was persuaded to attend a meeting of the British Association for the Advancement of Science in Bristol. After describing his discoveries over dinner at the house of a friend in Bristol, he was further persuaded to recount them to both the chemical and the geological sections of the meeting. They included his electrocrystallization and atmospheric experiments, and his improvements to the voltaic battery.[2]
Crosse went on to separate copper from its ores using electrolysis, experimented with the electrolysis of sea water, wine and brandy to purify them, and examined the effects of electricity on vegetation.[2] He was also interested in the practical uses of electricity and magnetism, including the development of loudspeakers and telegraphy[5] although he did not do research in these areas himself.In 1836 Crosse was persuaded to attend a meeting of the British Association for the Advancement of Science in Bristol. After describing his discoveries over dinner at the house of a friend in Bristol, he was further persuaded to recount them to both the chemical and the geological sections of the meeting. They included his electrocrystallization and atmospheric experiments, and his improvements to the voltaic battery.[2]
Crosse went on to separate copper from its ores using electrolysis, experimented with the electrolysis of sea water, wine and brandy to purify them, and examined the effects of electricity on vegetation.[2] He was also interested in the practical uses of electricity and magnetism, including the development of loudspeakers and telegraphy[5] although he did not do research in these areas himself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acarus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acarus
28 August 2014 15:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
// As am still personally sure, this planet is an actual psüchiatric asülium
Wikipedia can back me up here:
"The term "psychiatry" was first coined by the German physician Johann Christian Reil in 1808 and literally means the 'medical treatment of the soul' (psych- "soul" from Ancient Greek psykhē "soul"; -iatry "medical treatment" from Gk. iātrikos "medical" from iāsthai "to heal")"
Wikipedia can back me up here:
"The term "psychiatry" was first coined by the German physician Johann Christian Reil in 1808 and literally means the 'medical treatment of the soul' (psych- "soul" from Ancient Greek psykhē "soul"; -iatry "medical treatment" from Gk. iātrikos "medical" from iāsthai "to heal")"
28 August 2014 11:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
But its a bit other breed of information then:
" The ‘Renaissance’ Portal initiates 7 indeed occurs from the September Equinox & completes on the November Solar Eclipse. This aperture will align the New Earth to 3 phases of ‘enlightenment. Do not doubt that just as there are star gates and worm holes that connect the planet (and humanity) to higher dimensions, there are also ‘Time Gate Portals’ that connect to other epochs.
Just as similar frequencies attract through the ‘Law of Harmonic Oscillation’ so do the vibratory fields of planetary ‘eras’ naturally align. There are 3 ‘Golden Ages’ in which many of you were present that achieved very high levels of consciousness.
These are:
1) The Golden Age of Atlantis ( Poseidon Law of One)
2) The Golden Age of LeMuria
3) The Golden Age of Greece (Hologramic Insert of Avatars)
Through the Aquarian Shift, 144-Crystalline Grid and the expansion into 12 dimensions, you are able to draw the attributes & codes of these higher time periods into a more direct harmonic relationship with the ongoing up-shift of humanity in the current time. The codes of these eras will allow for a much closer interface with the 3 Golden eras mentioned.
This will assist humanity by allowing the simultaneous time aspect of those phases to integrate more completely with the evolving phase you are entering. The two phases the era of the Golden Age of Greece and of Poseidon.
The Golden Codes of Greece and Poseidon will be brought in through the planetary ‘Naval’ (umbilical) Portal of Delphi and the Codes of Golden LeMuria will enter the earth plane at Rapa Nui. This will initiate as stated on the equinox. This will occur through the 10th, 11th and 12th dimensions and be received via the 10th, 11th and 12th physio chakras in the Mer-Ka Na field, and through the 20th and 33rd chakras of the etheric levels of the Mer-Ka-Na field.
It should not surprise you that all 3 of these (prior) Golden Ages were phases in which many of you were and are , in simultaneous time), present. We tell you that these aspects of your multidimensional selves are playing a major role in coordinating the harmonic interfacing that will occur in the ‘Renaissance Portal’ "
Yes, we must, feel we should find language translation to all of that as well, translation to everyday language
" The ‘Renaissance’ Portal initiates 7 indeed occurs from the September Equinox & completes on the November Solar Eclipse. This aperture will align the New Earth to 3 phases of ‘enlightenment. Do not doubt that just as there are star gates and worm holes that connect the planet (and humanity) to higher dimensions, there are also ‘Time Gate Portals’ that connect to other epochs.
Just as similar frequencies attract through the ‘Law of Harmonic Oscillation’ so do the vibratory fields of planetary ‘eras’ naturally align. There are 3 ‘Golden Ages’ in which many of you were present that achieved very high levels of consciousness.
These are:
1) The Golden Age of Atlantis ( Poseidon Law of One)
2) The Golden Age of LeMuria
3) The Golden Age of Greece (Hologramic Insert of Avatars)
Through the Aquarian Shift, 144-Crystalline Grid and the expansion into 12 dimensions, you are able to draw the attributes & codes of these higher time periods into a more direct harmonic relationship with the ongoing up-shift of humanity in the current time. The codes of these eras will allow for a much closer interface with the 3 Golden eras mentioned.
This will assist humanity by allowing the simultaneous time aspect of those phases to integrate more completely with the evolving phase you are entering. The two phases the era of the Golden Age of Greece and of Poseidon.
The Golden Codes of Greece and Poseidon will be brought in through the planetary ‘Naval’ (umbilical) Portal of Delphi and the Codes of Golden LeMuria will enter the earth plane at Rapa Nui. This will initiate as stated on the equinox. This will occur through the 10th, 11th and 12th dimensions and be received via the 10th, 11th and 12th physio chakras in the Mer-Ka Na field, and through the 20th and 33rd chakras of the etheric levels of the Mer-Ka-Na field.
It should not surprise you that all 3 of these (prior) Golden Ages were phases in which many of you were and are , in simultaneous time), present. We tell you that these aspects of your multidimensional selves are playing a major role in coordinating the harmonic interfacing that will occur in the ‘Renaissance Portal’ "
Yes, we must, feel we should find language translation to all of that as well, translation to everyday language
28 August 2014 11:41
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Usun, et mida elutargem Naine seda kindlamalt leiab omale mehe kes on väärt
28 August 2014 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
vanad Eestlased ei oskaks ahastuses sellise häbiväärse pildi ees vist reageeridagi... neil nii pyha loom karu, et kui kogematta karu surmati, siis metsaviamudega nädalapikkune rituaal tehti, et vaimudega respecti uuesti saada
28 August 2014 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"there will be a new human being created that is a combination of your Lightbody and your former carbon-based body this is the new crystalline human and it is part of My Creation Plan. And you all signed up for it before you came into this life time. More and more of you will begin to remember this plan…if you’re wondering what your soul missions and soul contracts are on this earth in this lifetime… well many of you have that as your number one soul contract item. You signed up to participate in the experiment of transitioning from a carbon-based to a crystalline-based human. "
28 August 2014 01:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And this is no conspiracy, this is real life really,
boring uh?
Yes, and we do have solutions to it all, how many times millions of people have to say that in how many ways that few would hear?
All of that we offer, will regulate rest of the millions pieces
.:. /veg food/fem religion/psy plants/ .:.
http://i.minus.com/iblNcxynRn8sdR.gif
boring uh?
Yes, and we do have solutions to it all, how many times millions of people have to say that in how many ways that few would hear?
All of that we offer, will regulate rest of the millions pieces
.:. /veg food/fem religion/psy plants/ .:.
http://i.minus.com/iblNcxynRn8sdR.gif
http://i.minus.com/iblNcxynRn8sdR.gif
28 August 2014 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
//On other experiment to add here, also posted that long time ago but.. hey.. some of us seems to be forgetting what kind of tools this school system is actually producing.
The participants adapted to their roles well beyond Zimbardo's expectations, as the guards enforced authoritarian measures and ultimately subjected some of the prisoners to psychological torture. Many of the prisoners passively accepted psychological abuse and, at the request of the guards, readily harassed other prisoners who attempted to prevent it. The experiment even affected Zimbardo himself, who, in his role as the superintendent, permitted the abuse to continue.
Two of the prisoners quit the experiment early and the entire experiment was abruptly stopped after only six days. Certain portions of the experiment were filmed and excerpts of footage are publicly available.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
The Stanford prison experiment (SPE) was a study of the psychological effects of becoming a prisoner or prison guard. The experiment was conducted at Stanford University from August 14–20, 1971, by a team of researchers led by psychology professor Philip Zimbardo. It was funded by the US Office of Naval Research and was of interest to both the US Navy and Marine Corps as an investigation into the causes of conflict between military guards and prisoners.
Participants were recruited and told they would participate in a two-week prison simulation. Out of 70 respondents, Zimbardo and his team selected the 24 males whom they deemed to be the most psychologically stable and healthy. These participants were predominantly white and middle-class. The group was intentionally selected to exclude those with criminal background, psychological impairments or medical problems. They all agreed to participate in a 7–14-day period and received $15 per day (roughly equivalent to $85 in 2012).
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The researchers held an orientation session for guards the day before the experiment, during which they instructed them not to physically harm the prisoners. In the footage of the study, Zimbardo can be seen talking to the guards: "You can create in the prisoners feelings of boredom, a sense of fear to some degree, you can create a notion of arbitrariness that their life is totally controlled by us, by the system, you, me, and they'll have no privacy ... We're going to take away their individuality in various ways. In general what all this leads to is a sense of powerlessness. That is, in this situation we'll have all the power and they'll have none."
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Guards were instructed to call prisoners by their assigned numbers, sewn on their uniforms, instead of by name.
The prisoners were arrested at their homes and charged with armed robbery. The local Palo Alto police department assisted Zimbardo with the arrests and conducted full booking procedures on the prisoners, which included fingerprinting and taking mug shots. They were transported to the mock prison from the police station, where they were strip searched and given their new identities.
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Zimbardo aborted the experiment early when Christina Maslach, a graduate student in psychology whom he was dating (and later married), objected to the conditions of the prison after she was introduced to the experiment to conduct interviews. Zimbardo noted that, of more than fifty people who had observed the experiment, Maslach was the only one who questioned its morality. After only six days of a planned two weeks' duration, the Stanford prison experiment was discontinued.
Conclusions
On August 20, 1971, Zimbardo announced the end of the experiment to the participants. The results of the experiment have been argued to demonstrate the impressionability and obedience of people when provided with a legitimizing ideology and social and institutional support. The experiment has also been used to illustrate cognitive dissonance theory and the power of authority.
The participants adapted to their roles well beyond Zimbardo's expectations, as the guards enforced authoritarian measures and ultimately subjected some of the prisoners to psychological torture. Many of the prisoners passively accepted psychological abuse and, at the request of the guards, readily harassed other prisoners who attempted to prevent it. The experiment even affected Zimbardo himself, who, in his role as the superintendent, permitted the abuse to continue.
Two of the prisoners quit the experiment early and the entire experiment was abruptly stopped after only six days. Certain portions of the experiment were filmed and excerpts of footage are publicly available.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
The Stanford prison experiment (SPE) was a study of the psychological effects of becoming a prisoner or prison guard. The experiment was conducted at Stanford University from August 14–20, 1971, by a team of researchers led by psychology professor Philip Zimbardo. It was funded by the US Office of Naval Research and was of interest to both the US Navy and Marine Corps as an investigation into the causes of conflict between military guards and prisoners.
Participants were recruited and told they would participate in a two-week prison simulation. Out of 70 respondents, Zimbardo and his team selected the 24 males whom they deemed to be the most psychologically stable and healthy. These participants were predominantly white and middle-class. The group was intentionally selected to exclude those with criminal background, psychological impairments or medical problems. They all agreed to participate in a 7–14-day period and received $15 per day (roughly equivalent to $85 in 2012).
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The researchers held an orientation session for guards the day before the experiment, during which they instructed them not to physically harm the prisoners. In the footage of the study, Zimbardo can be seen talking to the guards: "You can create in the prisoners feelings of boredom, a sense of fear to some degree, you can create a notion of arbitrariness that their life is totally controlled by us, by the system, you, me, and they'll have no privacy ... We're going to take away their individuality in various ways. In general what all this leads to is a sense of powerlessness. That is, in this situation we'll have all the power and they'll have none."
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Guards were instructed to call prisoners by their assigned numbers, sewn on their uniforms, instead of by name.
The prisoners were arrested at their homes and charged with armed robbery. The local Palo Alto police department assisted Zimbardo with the arrests and conducted full booking procedures on the prisoners, which included fingerprinting and taking mug shots. They were transported to the mock prison from the police station, where they were strip searched and given their new identities.
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Zimbardo aborted the experiment early when Christina Maslach, a graduate student in psychology whom he was dating (and later married), objected to the conditions of the prison after she was introduced to the experiment to conduct interviews. Zimbardo noted that, of more than fifty people who had observed the experiment, Maslach was the only one who questioned its morality. After only six days of a planned two weeks' duration, the Stanford prison experiment was discontinued.
Conclusions
On August 20, 1971, Zimbardo announced the end of the experiment to the participants. The results of the experiment have been argued to demonstrate the impressionability and obedience of people when provided with a legitimizing ideology and social and institutional support. The experiment has also been used to illustrate cognitive dissonance theory and the power of authority.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
28 August 2014 00:42
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28 August 2014 00:09
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naughty
27 August 2014 23:55
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the fish is still the great one, lets hope Hannah Rajah or some other girl with their awesome gear got some proper HD shoots of these
27 August 2014 23:52
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nu jah noh :D
27 August 2014 23:23
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nu ja neid ka eri põhjustel, mõndadel eri suunalistel põhjustel,
kuid laias liistus kaks, üks suur grupp on keda ei koti (ning selle sees neid keda ei koti sest nad pahad erinevat pidi ja keda ei koti heas mõttes sest nad nagu oma mõttes hipilised ja lasevad minna) ja siis teine suur grupp kes siis selle pärast kõnnib edasi, et tal süü või häbi või alaväärsus või aukartus või isegi usklik mõte, et nii peab olema või lihtsalt omas peas austus, et kui naine ei soovi siis ta austades naist ei käi pinda ega peale kui iganes palju naine ka meeldib
ja vb tõesti, kõik ikka taandub selleni, et mees ei tunne Naist... kuid noh.. on erinevaid mitte tundmisi.. üleolevad ja alaolevad ja sirgjoonelised kes usuvad, et teevad hästi, nii nagu naine soovib.. eemaldudes naisest kui see vähimagi signaali annab, et ta ei suuda ega soovi anduda
kuid laias liistus kaks, üks suur grupp on keda ei koti (ning selle sees neid keda ei koti sest nad pahad erinevat pidi ja keda ei koti heas mõttes sest nad nagu oma mõttes hipilised ja lasevad minna) ja siis teine suur grupp kes siis selle pärast kõnnib edasi, et tal süü või häbi või alaväärsus või aukartus või isegi usklik mõte, et nii peab olema või lihtsalt omas peas austus, et kui naine ei soovi siis ta austades naist ei käi pinda ega peale kui iganes palju naine ka meeldib
ja vb tõesti, kõik ikka taandub selleni, et mees ei tunne Naist... kuid noh.. on erinevaid mitte tundmisi.. üleolevad ja alaolevad ja sirgjoonelised kes usuvad, et teevad hästi, nii nagu naine soovib.. eemaldudes naisest kui see vähimagi signaali annab, et ta ei suuda ega soovi anduda
27 August 2014 23:21
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hea ongi õige minu raamatus
27 August 2014 23:00
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kuid osad inimesed nii arvavatki siiralt.. , kibestusega
27 August 2014 22:59
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päris hea
27 August 2014 22:30
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Tõsi!
27 August 2014 22:30
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nii suure peaga
27 August 2014 22:29
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Oot oot mis loom see selline on ?
27 August 2014 22:29
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mida kõike inimesed teevad ... lisaks muule
27 August 2014 22:28
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Awww
http://www.picturesnew.com/media/images/d44a05a378.jpg
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27 August 2014 22:28
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Hampstritele seltsiks mõneks ajaks : ))
27 August 2014 22:26
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24 siin : )
kuid veelgi parem oleks näha millised 24..
kuid veelgi parem oleks näha millised 24..
27 August 2014 22:26
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Piisab kui googeldada Topsy (elephant) ...
Kuid nyyd mõtlema hakata... siis ta jah, enda kohta ütles, et tema kohta need head kuulujutud ei räägi, milline ta tegelikult oli..
Kuid nyyd mõtlema hakata... siis ta jah, enda kohta ütles, et tema kohta need head kuulujutud ei räägi, milline ta tegelikult oli..
27 August 2014 22:18
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see mees öelnud väidetavalt palju hid asju kuid ta ise selle põhjal mis ma lugenud suht paha inimene ikka ja seda võiks ka koolis lastele õpetada, millise inimeselomaga tegu oli...
27 August 2014 22:17
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Aga see kassi pilt on nii ilus :))
27 August 2014 22:12
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Madu (vast ka selle pärast) ei teinud midagi, sest kutsikad austasid ja olid heast emast,
Madu ise ka muidugi, veel päris sugupuust
Madu ise ka muidugi, veel päris sugupuust
27 August 2014 22:11
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Et igakord kui peaaegu mõtlen välja midagi siis nagu tuleb "Aaa tegelt on jah suures plaanis sedasi"
27 August 2014 22:09
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ega ma siin ei oskagi kahelda millegi selle osas, kuid nagu harjunud, et saan ise veel alati mingis osas otsa targem olla, mõtlen veel sutsu :p
27 August 2014 22:06
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hahahah nii tõsi :D:D
See Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii tõsi, väga veider, ja siis veel vabandatakse ka kui ei ole suitsu anda :D
See Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii tõsi, väga veider, ja siis veel vabandatakse ka kui ei ole suitsu anda :D
27 August 2014 22:03
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Tema kodukal veel head: http://www.vmishchenko.com/#gallery-Snails
http://www.vmishchenko.com/#gallery-Snails
27 August 2014 22:01
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Vou!
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27 August 2014 22:01
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Aitah Tiia
27 August 2014 22:00
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tõsi
27 August 2014 21:48
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Kuid se artikkel neil ikka väga hea, üks parimaid mida netis näind olen pikka pikka aega
27 August 2014 21:45
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Proovisõidu osas pris kindel ma pole :D
siis peaks juba ika päris kindel olema kui sõitma hakkad, et kas oskad sõita või kas usaldad masinat ennast sõidule viimast, sest mõnel just eelmiste kasutajate poolt kapotialune väga ära tuunitud selliselt, et peale esimest proovisõitu sõidab katus kohe ära ning plaanid lendavad aknast välja
Muidugi dringi kasutus ka libe tee, kui siis psühedeelsed, hine tundlikumaks ja avatumaks tegevamad taimed ja ained... kuid drink võtab maha pidureid ja nurki... vahest rohkem ka kui vaja ... vahest see ka hinge trikitamine tegemaksseda mida pole loodud.. ja siis jääme lõksu.
midagi nii puhast ja head ikka puhtalt või kui siis nende vaimude abiga kes armatsemiseks loodud, ... (eks seda veel uurime kas üldse tohib inimsel peale enda kehakeemia olla midagi mis teda teadlikumaks teeb ja tundelisemaks... või, et lausa peab)
siis peaks juba ika päris kindel olema kui sõitma hakkad, et kas oskad sõita või kas usaldad masinat ennast sõidule viimast, sest mõnel just eelmiste kasutajate poolt kapotialune väga ära tuunitud selliselt, et peale esimest proovisõitu sõidab katus kohe ära ning plaanid lendavad aknast välja
Muidugi dringi kasutus ka libe tee, kui siis psühedeelsed, hine tundlikumaks ja avatumaks tegevamad taimed ja ained... kuid drink võtab maha pidureid ja nurki... vahest rohkem ka kui vaja ... vahest see ka hinge trikitamine tegemaksseda mida pole loodud.. ja siis jääme lõksu.
midagi nii puhast ja head ikka puhtalt või kui siis nende vaimude abiga kes armatsemiseks loodud, ... (eks seda veel uurime kas üldse tohib inimsel peale enda kehakeemia olla midagi mis teda teadlikumaks teeb ja tundelisemaks... või, et lausa peab)
27 August 2014 21:44
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see võib tõsi täielikult olla kuid kuidas nii paljud inimesed feilivad selles... energjate tunnetamises.
Mu arust see energjate teema selline oma pärane.. see ka mu testimiste listis, et siis tõestada või mitte tõestada energjate tõestamine teatud moodustel
Mu arust see energjate teema selline oma pärane.. see ka mu testimiste listis, et siis tõestada või mitte tõestada energjate tõestamine teatud moodustel
27 August 2014 21:37
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mõelda vaid kui naised ka nii käituks :D
27 August 2014 21:34
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muidugi siis veel paremaks läheb kui õiged linnud koos (mäletad seda Jeesuse postitust)
27 August 2014 21:33
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Show a man you do not care and he will walk on :D
27 August 2014 21:32
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loodame, et loomulik
27 August 2014 21:30
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iiu.. see kiipimise teema tegelikult ikka väga väga VÄGA haige teema kui hakata mõtlema, et inimestel vaja nüüd hoida kontrolli kus iga loom on, et loomad ise nagu üldse hakkama ei saa siis kes enne meid siin juba elasid v?
Ja see harutamine inimeste turvalisuse suunas ka... ja oi kuidas lastakse meediasse varsti palju lugusi, kuidas õnnelikud omanikud tänu kiibile on looma leidnud ja kes tänu kiipimatule olukorrale on nukkras olukorras...
kuid tegelikult saab DNAga need loomad kiibi vabalt ilusti sama hästi ära kaardistada, et "omanik" leida... (DNA teema on tasuta tulevikus)
Muidugi keegi ei küsi ka eriti vist looma käest vahest, kas viimane üldse soovib sama omaniku juurde minna kust teda energjad eemale tõid..
Ja see harutamine inimeste turvalisuse suunas ka... ja oi kuidas lastakse meediasse varsti palju lugusi, kuidas õnnelikud omanikud tänu kiibile on looma leidnud ja kes tänu kiipimatule olukorrale on nukkras olukorras...
kuid tegelikult saab DNAga need loomad kiibi vabalt ilusti sama hästi ära kaardistada, et "omanik" leida... (DNA teema on tasuta tulevikus)
Muidugi keegi ei küsi ka eriti vist looma käest vahest, kas viimane üldse soovib sama omaniku juurde minna kust teda energjad eemale tõid..
27 August 2014 21:29
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ja kui see inimene oma elus õigel kohal on enne seda mõtet ja heas suunas avatud peale seda mõtet.... siis see väga oluline ja hea ja õige lause. : )
Vahest lihtsalt seda mõtet kasutavad ka inimesed kaitsena kellele midagi olulist muudatust näidata soovitakse..
Vahest lihtsalt seda mõtet kasutavad ka inimesed kaitsena kellele midagi olulist muudatust näidata soovitakse..
27 August 2014 21:24
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mõtlesin alguses, et kayne westi ikka ei kuulaks.. ja nüüd nagu suht rahul, et play panin
27 August 2014 21:22
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Mustad luiged nii haruldased, et internetis nagu on weebilehti kes tõestada proovivad, et nad on päriselt ka olemas, mitte ainult muinasjuttudes (ehk vanaaja tõsielu loode kirjeldustes).
27 August 2014 21:20
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OMg :D
27 August 2014 21:17
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just, nii nagu välja kukub :D
27 August 2014 21:17
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Muudab ikka maailma, kindlasti paremaks, kui inimene tundeline kes loomaga koos elada soovib : )
27 August 2014 21:15
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Eriti kuna koera süda nii hea, et aksepteerimist ja austust kiirab ainiti, kui iganes lammas ka inimene poleks
27 August 2014 21:14
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eelmise kommentaari tegi kass :D
kuid leht päris hea, väga reaalseid asju sääl ikka, neid peaks veel koguma ja osad vahelt ära võtma
kuid leht päris hea, väga reaalseid asju sääl ikka, neid peaks veel koguma ja osad vahelt ära võtma
27 August 2014 21:12
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000'õÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕÕõõõuy7760
27 August 2014 21:09
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See vist hea uudis_?
27 August 2014 21:03
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Nii vahest tuntakse küll ja nende poolt kes arenematta inimese või inimnahas petturi vaimu otsa sattunud... ja need vaimud vast meelega seda sõna kasutavad selleks, et seda lörtisda mis kõige olulisem... sis veel lihtsam katkiselt inimeselt saada "neil" mida vaja...
kuid see kõigest teoorja poolne asi rohkem . ) ...tegelikult vist asi ongi arengu peetuses ainult, kui inimene ei taha mõista olulisust ja õrnust ja headust oma ümber... mõni kohe otseselt naerab selle üle või punnib vasta siis ju ilmselge peetus,
muidugi ka palju neid mehi, kes hingeliselt ei ole ennast lapsest saati arendanud ja siis saavad väga sügavalt haiget elu oluliseimaga silmitsi sattudes ning keeravad omal peas kõik tagurpidi... või siis osad läbi raskuste ja valu, teevad samu vigu.,.. ja ennast piitsutavalt läbi tormi lähevad edasi... arvates, et see ongi elu, et see ongi Armastuse
kuid see kõigest teoorja poolne asi rohkem . ) ...tegelikult vist asi ongi arengu peetuses ainult, kui inimene ei taha mõista olulisust ja õrnust ja headust oma ümber... mõni kohe otseselt naerab selle üle või punnib vasta siis ju ilmselge peetus,
muidugi ka palju neid mehi, kes hingeliselt ei ole ennast lapsest saati arendanud ja siis saavad väga sügavalt haiget elu oluliseimaga silmitsi sattudes ning keeravad omal peas kõik tagurpidi... või siis osad läbi raskuste ja valu, teevad samu vigu.,.. ja ennast piitsutavalt läbi tormi lähevad edasi... arvates, et see ongi elu, et see ongi Armastuse
27 August 2014 21:03
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// seda postitust ära paljun loe kui tahad oma päeva head ja ilusat
//pahu asju kirjeldan millele lõpuks vist pole mõtet ka igal ajal mõelda
Selle generatsiooni mured aga veel suuremad vist.. miinus see sõda muidugi, mis vast tulematta jääb.
nii paljudel.. mõtted nii katki ja suhted nii lahjad, juurtest nii eemaldatud... ja päris armastust avalikult nii vähe linnades, et meie lammutamiseks, et orja korra reeglite järgi suuremat osa sundima tegema seda mida "nemad" soovivad.. et selleks uut sõda siin pole vaja (ajutisest sõja olukorrast piisab), sest me nii kuulekad nüüd
suurem osa rahvast anonüümselt nüüd ise saadaks pea kelle iganes nõidade põletamisele kui talle akadeemiliselt (eluvõõralt) ära seletatakse, miks selle inimese käitumine tema mugavus ja turvalisus tsooni ohustab.
see tuleb meelde see üliõpilaste vangla project Stanford prison experiment (SPE) ja see The Milgram Obedience Experiment.. üks näitas milliste ohtlikese vaimumaailmadesse me sattuda võime lihtsalt kuna inimlikuse standard ja looduse meeled meist eemaldatud samas kui teine experiment näitas kui need inimesed üksi võtta ja käsule allutada siis nad vabalt võimelised teist surmama kui neile nii üeldakse inimese poolt keda teda on treenitud austama
need projektid tegelikult suht tumedad, ei tea miks neid siia üldse postitasin
//pahu asju kirjeldan millele lõpuks vist pole mõtet ka igal ajal mõelda
Selle generatsiooni mured aga veel suuremad vist.. miinus see sõda muidugi, mis vast tulematta jääb.
nii paljudel.. mõtted nii katki ja suhted nii lahjad, juurtest nii eemaldatud... ja päris armastust avalikult nii vähe linnades, et meie lammutamiseks, et orja korra reeglite järgi suuremat osa sundima tegema seda mida "nemad" soovivad.. et selleks uut sõda siin pole vaja (ajutisest sõja olukorrast piisab), sest me nii kuulekad nüüd
suurem osa rahvast anonüümselt nüüd ise saadaks pea kelle iganes nõidade põletamisele kui talle akadeemiliselt (eluvõõralt) ära seletatakse, miks selle inimese käitumine tema mugavus ja turvalisus tsooni ohustab.
see tuleb meelde see üliõpilaste vangla project Stanford prison experiment (SPE) ja see The Milgram Obedience Experiment.. üks näitas milliste ohtlikese vaimumaailmadesse me sattuda võime lihtsalt kuna inimlikuse standard ja looduse meeled meist eemaldatud samas kui teine experiment näitas kui need inimesed üksi võtta ja käsule allutada siis nad vabalt võimelised teist surmama kui neile nii üeldakse inimese poolt keda teda on treenitud austama
need projektid tegelikult suht tumedad, ei tea miks neid siia üldse postitasin
27 August 2014 20:43
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Vau, see väga hea, sheerisin oma seinale ka kohe.
St, see pole hea, et inimestel nii on... kuid see, et nii lihtsalt, lühidalt ja selgelt nii palju olulist ühte uudisesse panti
St, see pole hea, et inimestel nii on... kuid see, et nii lihtsalt, lühidalt ja selgelt nii palju olulist ühte uudisesse panti
27 August 2014 20:38
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Kas ise nõustud sellega?
27 August 2014 20:27
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ma tean, ma suts vanamoeline, sõnaotsesesmõttes
27 August 2014 20:26
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Kuid pildi osas nagu kas saakski keegi tõisiselt selle osas vähem kui nõustuda,
peaks veel olema sedasi, et kui ei ole nõus oma elu teisele loovutama silmapilgselt siis sellise inimese suunas erootilisi mõtteid ei peaks mõtlema
peaks veel olema sedasi, et kui ei ole nõus oma elu teisele loovutama silmapilgselt siis sellise inimese suunas erootilisi mõtteid ei peaks mõtlema
27 August 2014 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
nujah @ "kas on selline seadus" "ok" (punkt)
27 August 2014 20:21
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
ahahh siis ;D
27 August 2014 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
ootega tal siis päriselt silm sinine pold eks ?
27 August 2014 20:19
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Oeh..
27 August 2014 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
"You can really love someone, but when you don't have the same goals, that means God has not brought the two of you together in His perfect plan for your lives."
Nii tõsi
Nii tõsi
27 August 2014 20:09
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Kuid see ei pea nii olema
27 August 2014 20:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
//am personally sure for now still, that black and white are not an colour
rather lack of colour, you can not generate these colours with light
rather lack of colour, you can not generate these colours with light
27 August 2014 17:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Conclusion
1. The primary colour terms (red, blue, yellow, green, black, white) are very strongly motivated by the neuro-physiological act of seeing and they function as linguistic universals. The appearance of other basic colour terms (brown, yellow, orange, violet) in a language is of more occasional character and influenced by a number of different factors.
2. The foci of black, white and red are the most precisely determined. Their connotations, motivated by a number of mutually supporting factors, are also most firmly fixed in human minds.
3. The role of the red colour in the Estonian folk belief and traditional costume is quite remarkable; red details have often been used, primarily in wedding clothes, and the other way round, they have been avoided at funerals and in mourning. So one may say that at least in the Estonian tradition red conveyed generally a positive magical meaning.
4. The word red occurs in the Estonian runic songs mostly as a fixed epithet, and not so much to denote a colour, but rather in the meaning 'beautiful' (except as a direct reference to blood), expressing usually a positive assessment. A magical connotation is also probable.
1. The primary colour terms (red, blue, yellow, green, black, white) are very strongly motivated by the neuro-physiological act of seeing and they function as linguistic universals. The appearance of other basic colour terms (brown, yellow, orange, violet) in a language is of more occasional character and influenced by a number of different factors.
2. The foci of black, white and red are the most precisely determined. Their connotations, motivated by a number of mutually supporting factors, are also most firmly fixed in human minds.
3. The role of the red colour in the Estonian folk belief and traditional costume is quite remarkable; red details have often been used, primarily in wedding clothes, and the other way round, they have been avoided at funerals and in mourning. So one may say that at least in the Estonian tradition red conveyed generally a positive magical meaning.
4. The word red occurs in the Estonian runic songs mostly as a fixed epithet, and not so much to denote a colour, but rather in the meaning 'beautiful' (except as a direct reference to blood), expressing usually a positive assessment. A magical connotation is also probable.
27 August 2014 17:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
4.2. At this point I should make some remarks. First, there is Jaan Puhvel's reasoning from his Comparative Mythology (1987:159ff.). He speaks about the crucial role of the tricolour red-white-green in the Indo-European cultures. So, in ancient Rome the participants of the chariot race at the New Year celebration were divided in three "tribes", who wore clothes of those colours. Further, Puhvel hypothesizes that red, white and green or blue were the canonised colours of the three classes of Indo-Europeans (there are traces of their presence among nearly every Indo-European nation): white was the colour of priests, red that of warriors and green or blue the colour of the productive class. He sees the significance of the combination for Indo-Europeans in its continuation in the colours of flags of many states (Italy, France, the Netherlands, Norway, Ireland, Great Britain, the United States).
For J. Puhvel this contemplation is rather a side issue and he gives no precise explanation for the hypothesis, therefore there is no reason to dwell on it. The connection with the state colours is somewhat questionable, because it is simply an attractive combination and each flag has a different history. For example, the Norwegians just inserted a blue cross into the Danish flag, to distinguish themselves from the Kingdom Denmark in such a prosaic way.
//so its told
Another remark pertains to the colour symbolism in general, which I am inclined to deny in its conventional meaning (à la blue means this and yellow means that). The colours do have a certain sphere of associations, as we have seen with red, white and black. The association may have an etymological, cultural, natural or personal explanation (see also: Allik 1982, Pickford 1972). The colour terms themselves are often polysemantic. The colour as a sign that can be interpreted unequivocally can exist only in a closed system, a definite cultural tradition, where all members would understand it identically - for example, the Catholic liturgy, the iconography of a certain period in the history of art, certain kinds of Chinese and Japanese theatre. In art a colour can be in the function sign only when the nature of the art of that particular period aims at encoding, not depicting the surrounding world, that is, principally at the periods when and in the countries where deep religious attitudes prevail. There have never been any comprehensive metacultural symbol systems, except, perhaps, the above-mentioned universal associations of black, red and white (and even these depend on the context in their functioning). The main reason for this is probably the poor capacity of abstraction of colours, which was mentioned above, but definitely also the indiscreteness of colours. The discreteness in a colour space is not created by the focal points of the primary colours, i.e. discrete points that are connected with each other by indiscrete transition areas. In a similar way, we cannot say that a sound of a certain pitch should symbolise a particular idea.
For J. Puhvel this contemplation is rather a side issue and he gives no precise explanation for the hypothesis, therefore there is no reason to dwell on it. The connection with the state colours is somewhat questionable, because it is simply an attractive combination and each flag has a different history. For example, the Norwegians just inserted a blue cross into the Danish flag, to distinguish themselves from the Kingdom Denmark in such a prosaic way.
//so its told
Another remark pertains to the colour symbolism in general, which I am inclined to deny in its conventional meaning (à la blue means this and yellow means that). The colours do have a certain sphere of associations, as we have seen with red, white and black. The association may have an etymological, cultural, natural or personal explanation (see also: Allik 1982, Pickford 1972). The colour terms themselves are often polysemantic. The colour as a sign that can be interpreted unequivocally can exist only in a closed system, a definite cultural tradition, where all members would understand it identically - for example, the Catholic liturgy, the iconography of a certain period in the history of art, certain kinds of Chinese and Japanese theatre. In art a colour can be in the function sign only when the nature of the art of that particular period aims at encoding, not depicting the surrounding world, that is, principally at the periods when and in the countries where deep religious attitudes prevail. There have never been any comprehensive metacultural symbol systems, except, perhaps, the above-mentioned universal associations of black, red and white (and even these depend on the context in their functioning). The main reason for this is probably the poor capacity of abstraction of colours, which was mentioned above, but definitely also the indiscreteness of colours. The discreteness in a colour space is not created by the focal points of the primary colours, i.e. discrete points that are connected with each other by indiscrete transition areas. In a similar way, we cannot say that a sound of a certain pitch should symbolise a particular idea.
27 August 2014 17:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
As a very vague solution, I would offer the following scale of Estonian colour terms, based on the exactness of determination of colours and frequency of usage:
I. Basic colour terms:
(a) must (black), valge (white), punane (red) (corresponding to Berlin and Kay's 2nd stage). The association or focal colour corresponding to all three words is the most precise in different languages.
(b) sinine (blue), kollane (yellow), hall (grey). These colours occur frequently in folklore; the association of yellow is exact, that of the others can have some variations.
(c) roheline (green), pruun (brown), lilla (purple), roosa (pink) and other more recently coined basic colour terms. Their frequency in folklore is little, as is the determination of the colour with the word. The possible subdivisions here would be better adapted words (roheline - green, pruun - brown) and later borrowings that still sound somewhat unfamiliar in the Estonian language.
II. Non-basic terms. A rich vocabulary of compounds, associations and dialectal formations (as well as variants used only in limited contexts). This division certainly requires various subdivisions, but this would not fit within the limits of the present work.
Any degree of systematisation of colour vocabulary in the Estonian language would be welcome, for nearly everybody has experienced confusion created by mutual misunderstandings in the meaning of a certain colour term, especially when used by people of different walks of life. The need is even more serious in the specialised literature, such as the natural sciences, where it is often necessary to convey the colour exactly through words.
I. Basic colour terms:
(a) must (black), valge (white), punane (red) (corresponding to Berlin and Kay's 2nd stage). The association or focal colour corresponding to all three words is the most precise in different languages.
(b) sinine (blue), kollane (yellow), hall (grey). These colours occur frequently in folklore; the association of yellow is exact, that of the others can have some variations.
(c) roheline (green), pruun (brown), lilla (purple), roosa (pink) and other more recently coined basic colour terms. Their frequency in folklore is little, as is the determination of the colour with the word. The possible subdivisions here would be better adapted words (roheline - green, pruun - brown) and later borrowings that still sound somewhat unfamiliar in the Estonian language.
II. Non-basic terms. A rich vocabulary of compounds, associations and dialectal formations (as well as variants used only in limited contexts). This division certainly requires various subdivisions, but this would not fit within the limits of the present work.
Any degree of systematisation of colour vocabulary in the Estonian language would be welcome, for nearly everybody has experienced confusion created by mutual misunderstandings in the meaning of a certain colour term, especially when used by people of different walks of life. The need is even more serious in the specialised literature, such as the natural sciences, where it is often necessary to convey the colour exactly through words.
27 August 2014 17:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Translated by Sirje Ainsaar
"Having submitted the tapes to the archives I could not, however, get the strange story of the mysterious Bell-Hand off my mind. Who was the Hand With a Bell? It often happens in Mansi tales that a character is referred to metonymically, i.e. by a certain characteristic feature or quality that suffices to identify him for the members of the cultural group the story is addressed to. In 1979, for example, I recorded a story about someone called Lungs (khopsi). As was explained to me, khopsi meant 'a skinny man who perspired in the sun'. No comment, however, could be elicited about the Bell-Hand. According to Éva Schmidt, in Ob-Ugrian epic songs taboo names would usually be replaced by various euphemisms, such as Two/Three Men With a Bow and Arrows, Two/Three Men Who Hit a Wild Duck etc., which are often impossible for us to unriddle."
While translating the above story I was first convinced that it was all about relations between two tribal groups. The sister (from the Mos'-moiety) is sitting at home and making nice things of sable fur, waiting for a suitor. There comes a man, symbolized by the hand with a bell, and intimates that it is time for the sister to stop taking care of her brother. The brother, however, reluctant to give the sister away, makes an ambush and chops a hand off the suitor. There follows a retaliation from the side of the Bell-Hand or his tribesmen. The chain of events is triggered by the brother violating the consuetude.
Strange as it may seem, however, another story recorded in the same village at the same time starts from an opposite situation: a younger brother, acting as the head of the family after the parents' death, makes efforts to marry his sister off sooner than she would like to. One day while hunting, he meets a handsome and wealthy man (a prince) from the King's Town to whom he commends his sister. The man tells him to bring the sister to town, saying, "If I like her, I'll marry her." The brother goes home and says to the sister, "Sister, I'll have you married." The sister, although previously admonished by the late parents that she should obey his brother, does not like the idea of getting married and says, "I won't get married until the threshold of my parents' home is trodden low." Now, while the sister is out for a walk, her brother works away at the threshold with a file and knife. "Sister, it's trodden low now. Will you go?" But the unwilling sister sets a new condition, "I won't get married until the dress given to me by the parents gets torn." So, when the sister is in bed, the brother tears her dress up. "Will you go now?" - "As Father and Mother told me to obey you," says the sister, "I will." But on their way to town they meet a (Por-?)woman with a small face and a big nose, due to whose treacherous tricks the sister is changed into a black duck and jumps into the water,
It is rather common in world folklore that a fairy tale or a legend is centered around marrying or getting married, while the protagonist often travels in distant lands or in the realm of the supernatural. Here we can recognize the world view of small exogamous hunting tribes, with marriage problems occupying a central position, as making a successful match could easily be a matter of life or death for a whole tribe (v. e.g., the novel "Zhenitba Kevongov" written by the Nivkhi author Vladimir Sangi, and based on his own family tradition - Sangi 1975). Yet in many tales marriage problems are associated with supernatural beings, not humans. In that case the scene is set in the mythical Time of Creation and the events have an impact upon the order of the world to come. Thus, for example, the chief person of a Mansi legend of Creation, written down in the 19th century, visits the Lord of Waters, the Old Man of the Moon, the Sun-Woman and several other supernatural beings, fighting with some of them and outwitting some others to make their wives and daughters his own. Finally he happily returns home to his parents together with six wives. They are received with a feast. During the feast his mother says, "Since today let there be people in the previous world and let there be people in the present-day world, let there be places for women and places for men, inhabited by many women in simple furs and many men in simple furs. And let them offer you reindeer, bucks and jennies alike!" The next morning the mother says, "You, sonny, stay here now, here in the lower heaven, while we are going to the upper one. In the lower heaven you'll become the man who protects the world - Mir-susne-khum, while your father will be Numi-Toorum, the highest of all gods, and I shall be Kaltesh." (Shestalova-Fidorovitsh 1992: 22-23) The story is reminiscent of some Papuan legends of the deeds of dema-deities during the mythical Times of Creation, whose active contacts, amounting to killing each other, are told to have laid the foundation to the emergence of different tribes, cultivated plants, domestic animals and the future order of the world.
...ja kus suitsu seal tuld
http://www.folklore.ee/folklore/vol3/litlemos.htm
"Having submitted the tapes to the archives I could not, however, get the strange story of the mysterious Bell-Hand off my mind. Who was the Hand With a Bell? It often happens in Mansi tales that a character is referred to metonymically, i.e. by a certain characteristic feature or quality that suffices to identify him for the members of the cultural group the story is addressed to. In 1979, for example, I recorded a story about someone called Lungs (khopsi). As was explained to me, khopsi meant 'a skinny man who perspired in the sun'. No comment, however, could be elicited about the Bell-Hand. According to Éva Schmidt, in Ob-Ugrian epic songs taboo names would usually be replaced by various euphemisms, such as Two/Three Men With a Bow and Arrows, Two/Three Men Who Hit a Wild Duck etc., which are often impossible for us to unriddle."
While translating the above story I was first convinced that it was all about relations between two tribal groups. The sister (from the Mos'-moiety) is sitting at home and making nice things of sable fur, waiting for a suitor. There comes a man, symbolized by the hand with a bell, and intimates that it is time for the sister to stop taking care of her brother. The brother, however, reluctant to give the sister away, makes an ambush and chops a hand off the suitor. There follows a retaliation from the side of the Bell-Hand or his tribesmen. The chain of events is triggered by the brother violating the consuetude.
Strange as it may seem, however, another story recorded in the same village at the same time starts from an opposite situation: a younger brother, acting as the head of the family after the parents' death, makes efforts to marry his sister off sooner than she would like to. One day while hunting, he meets a handsome and wealthy man (a prince) from the King's Town to whom he commends his sister. The man tells him to bring the sister to town, saying, "If I like her, I'll marry her." The brother goes home and says to the sister, "Sister, I'll have you married." The sister, although previously admonished by the late parents that she should obey his brother, does not like the idea of getting married and says, "I won't get married until the threshold of my parents' home is trodden low." Now, while the sister is out for a walk, her brother works away at the threshold with a file and knife. "Sister, it's trodden low now. Will you go?" But the unwilling sister sets a new condition, "I won't get married until the dress given to me by the parents gets torn." So, when the sister is in bed, the brother tears her dress up. "Will you go now?" - "As Father and Mother told me to obey you," says the sister, "I will." But on their way to town they meet a (Por-?)woman with a small face and a big nose, due to whose treacherous tricks the sister is changed into a black duck and jumps into the water,
It is rather common in world folklore that a fairy tale or a legend is centered around marrying or getting married, while the protagonist often travels in distant lands or in the realm of the supernatural. Here we can recognize the world view of small exogamous hunting tribes, with marriage problems occupying a central position, as making a successful match could easily be a matter of life or death for a whole tribe (v. e.g., the novel "Zhenitba Kevongov" written by the Nivkhi author Vladimir Sangi, and based on his own family tradition - Sangi 1975). Yet in many tales marriage problems are associated with supernatural beings, not humans. In that case the scene is set in the mythical Time of Creation and the events have an impact upon the order of the world to come. Thus, for example, the chief person of a Mansi legend of Creation, written down in the 19th century, visits the Lord of Waters, the Old Man of the Moon, the Sun-Woman and several other supernatural beings, fighting with some of them and outwitting some others to make their wives and daughters his own. Finally he happily returns home to his parents together with six wives. They are received with a feast. During the feast his mother says, "Since today let there be people in the previous world and let there be people in the present-day world, let there be places for women and places for men, inhabited by many women in simple furs and many men in simple furs. And let them offer you reindeer, bucks and jennies alike!" The next morning the mother says, "You, sonny, stay here now, here in the lower heaven, while we are going to the upper one. In the lower heaven you'll become the man who protects the world - Mir-susne-khum, while your father will be Numi-Toorum, the highest of all gods, and I shall be Kaltesh." (Shestalova-Fidorovitsh 1992: 22-23) The story is reminiscent of some Papuan legends of the deeds of dema-deities during the mythical Times of Creation, whose active contacts, amounting to killing each other, are told to have laid the foundation to the emergence of different tribes, cultivated plants, domestic animals and the future order of the world.
...ja kus suitsu seal tuld
http://www.folklore.ee/folklore/vol3/litlemos.htm
http://www.folklore.ee/folklore/vol3/litlemos.htm
27 August 2014 16:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
//Here is a group of strange ones with horse eating and polygamy, many women relation ship supporters who have money in the mind of religious image.
The elder sister, Kaltesh the Golden,
Goes to the courtyard, lets down her braids -
Through one mouth, seven Obs flow,
Through one mouth, seven seas rise.
From her braids, the day does dawn,
From her braids rises the moon.
In a birch-tree behind the house -
Golden her leaves, her branches of gold -
Sit seven cuckoos with golden wings,
Golden their tails;
Seven days they sing,
Seven nights they sing.
There is no end of joy
Neither by night nor day;
Such is their song - like to
Silver coins falling from their mouths;
Such is their song - like to
Gold coins falling from their mouths.
Everywhere in the world
Poorly shod, poorly garbed people
All live through their song
Survive till our day.
book Novitsky describes the christening of the Pelym Mansi in 1714 and the Konda Mansi in 1715. The words of the village elder and the caretaker of the sanctuary Nahratch Yeplayev have been recorded:
"We all know why you have come here -- you want to pervert us from our ancient beliefs with your smooth-tongued flattery and damage and destroy our revered helper, but it is all in vain for you may take our heads but this we will not let you do." (Novitsky: 92-93)
" (Ibid.: 93) The village people requested that the sanctuary be left untouched,
saying: "And even if the highest order of your powerful ruler is to destroy our idols and sanctuaries, still, we ask you to impose a tax on them, as Yermak did in his days by taking 3 roubles a year; let us raise the tax and we will give you four (roubles) a year if you will disobey the order."
(Ibid.: 94) At last Nahratsh who has consulted the elders proposes a compromise:
"We will now obey the ruler's regulations and ukase. So we will not discard your teaching," said he to the clergyman," we only beg you not to reject the idol so revered by our fathers and grandfathers, and if you wish to christen us, honour also our idol, christen it in a more honourable manner - with a golden cross. Then we will decorate and build a church with all the icons ourselves, as a custom goes, and we will place ours also among these.
Secondly, do not allow us eat horse-meat, for there is not a food in the world that we like so much that we would give up our lives for that… First and foremost we ask you not to separate us from our many wives and reproach us about our polygamy in the future; do not christen our wives at all, we will each of us perform the immersion for our wives and make cross-signs. If we are allowed all that we will accept your religion and rules."
(Ibid.: 94-95). And even if the Mansi of the Nahratsh village never understood why their momentous proposals incurred the Russian's displeasure who kept on talking about the tricks of evil and mixing up the light and darkness (Ibid:95),
http://www.folklore.ee/~aado/rahvad/mansingl.htm
"The 16th-17th century principalities of the Khanty and Mansi were not states proper. Rather they were the early-feudal pre-governmental establishments where the leaders of the most powerful tribe had subjected the territory of the neighbouring tribe and posed taxes to its population. The governor remained in power due to the tribal customary law on the one hand, and, on the other hand, thanks to the small group of recruits consisting of his fellow-tribesmen and old allies whom he was obliged to supply with provision and armament. It was the Russians that started to call them princes, the Mansi words for them were most probably Tartar loan words khon and otyr. Sometimes Moscow entered into contracts with such Ob-Ugrian princes, more often they were turned into vassals who ruled according to the Tsars deed of gift from then on and saw to that Moscow would receive its amount of taxes more easily. Nevertheless, the Khanty and Mansi princes retained their relative power even as Tsar's vassals in the 17th century, and the principality of Koda retained its factual independence until 1644. "
#Khanty with public duties had to be prepared for military service according to the prince's order. The records from 1631 state that there were 138 of them in Koda, 16 of them were permanently in service in the prince's stronghold. The prince supplied armament from his arsenal, also money and provision. 40 armours and other weapons were stored in the Troitsa church built in the stronghold of Koda. All the Khanty of this rank who had no public duties had to contribute furs to the prince. The tax-paying Khanty paid the prince annual taxes. There were 80 slaves in Koda in 1631
During the 18th century the role of the Russian empire in Konda was merely the receiving of the natural tax collected quite randomly by the local murzas "per amount, not per head in their villages". Even in 1654 a voyevod from Konda made a complaint to the Tsar: "Ruler, your subjects in your Konda parish are stealing and killing each other, they go robbing each other and they steal and beat and shoot arrows at each other and cut with knives and fight each other until they are dead. And the same murderers, Ruler, you tax-paying subjects evade recruitment into service, they shoot arrows at people in service."(Ibid.: 150). In spite of that, Kyntsha, the Prince of Konda received a deed of gift from Tsar in 1680 which confirmed his noble position.
- just to RE confirm that this "indigenous group" is not indigenous or shamanistic at all, proper.
Some wife and slave was
The elder sister, Kaltesh the Golden,
Goes to the courtyard, lets down her braids -
Through one mouth, seven Obs flow,
Through one mouth, seven seas rise.
From her braids, the day does dawn,
From her braids rises the moon.
In a birch-tree behind the house -
Golden her leaves, her branches of gold -
Sit seven cuckoos with golden wings,
Golden their tails;
Seven days they sing,
Seven nights they sing.
There is no end of joy
Neither by night nor day;
Such is their song - like to
Silver coins falling from their mouths;
Such is their song - like to
Gold coins falling from their mouths.
Everywhere in the world
Poorly shod, poorly garbed people
All live through their song
Survive till our day.
book Novitsky describes the christening of the Pelym Mansi in 1714 and the Konda Mansi in 1715. The words of the village elder and the caretaker of the sanctuary Nahratch Yeplayev have been recorded:
"We all know why you have come here -- you want to pervert us from our ancient beliefs with your smooth-tongued flattery and damage and destroy our revered helper, but it is all in vain for you may take our heads but this we will not let you do." (Novitsky: 92-93)
" (Ibid.: 93) The village people requested that the sanctuary be left untouched,
saying: "And even if the highest order of your powerful ruler is to destroy our idols and sanctuaries, still, we ask you to impose a tax on them, as Yermak did in his days by taking 3 roubles a year; let us raise the tax and we will give you four (roubles) a year if you will disobey the order."
(Ibid.: 94) At last Nahratsh who has consulted the elders proposes a compromise:
"We will now obey the ruler's regulations and ukase. So we will not discard your teaching," said he to the clergyman," we only beg you not to reject the idol so revered by our fathers and grandfathers, and if you wish to christen us, honour also our idol, christen it in a more honourable manner - with a golden cross. Then we will decorate and build a church with all the icons ourselves, as a custom goes, and we will place ours also among these.
Secondly, do not allow us eat horse-meat, for there is not a food in the world that we like so much that we would give up our lives for that… First and foremost we ask you not to separate us from our many wives and reproach us about our polygamy in the future; do not christen our wives at all, we will each of us perform the immersion for our wives and make cross-signs. If we are allowed all that we will accept your religion and rules."
(Ibid.: 94-95). And even if the Mansi of the Nahratsh village never understood why their momentous proposals incurred the Russian's displeasure who kept on talking about the tricks of evil and mixing up the light and darkness (Ibid:95),
http://www.folklore.ee/~aado/rahvad/mansingl.htm
"The 16th-17th century principalities of the Khanty and Mansi were not states proper. Rather they were the early-feudal pre-governmental establishments where the leaders of the most powerful tribe had subjected the territory of the neighbouring tribe and posed taxes to its population. The governor remained in power due to the tribal customary law on the one hand, and, on the other hand, thanks to the small group of recruits consisting of his fellow-tribesmen and old allies whom he was obliged to supply with provision and armament. It was the Russians that started to call them princes, the Mansi words for them were most probably Tartar loan words khon and otyr. Sometimes Moscow entered into contracts with such Ob-Ugrian princes, more often they were turned into vassals who ruled according to the Tsars deed of gift from then on and saw to that Moscow would receive its amount of taxes more easily. Nevertheless, the Khanty and Mansi princes retained their relative power even as Tsar's vassals in the 17th century, and the principality of Koda retained its factual independence until 1644. "
#Khanty with public duties had to be prepared for military service according to the prince's order. The records from 1631 state that there were 138 of them in Koda, 16 of them were permanently in service in the prince's stronghold. The prince supplied armament from his arsenal, also money and provision. 40 armours and other weapons were stored in the Troitsa church built in the stronghold of Koda. All the Khanty of this rank who had no public duties had to contribute furs to the prince. The tax-paying Khanty paid the prince annual taxes. There were 80 slaves in Koda in 1631
During the 18th century the role of the Russian empire in Konda was merely the receiving of the natural tax collected quite randomly by the local murzas "per amount, not per head in their villages". Even in 1654 a voyevod from Konda made a complaint to the Tsar: "Ruler, your subjects in your Konda parish are stealing and killing each other, they go robbing each other and they steal and beat and shoot arrows at each other and cut with knives and fight each other until they are dead. And the same murderers, Ruler, you tax-paying subjects evade recruitment into service, they shoot arrows at people in service."(Ibid.: 150). In spite of that, Kyntsha, the Prince of Konda received a deed of gift from Tsar in 1680 which confirmed his noble position.
- just to RE confirm that this "indigenous group" is not indigenous or shamanistic at all, proper.
Some wife and slave was
http://www.folklore.ee/~aado/rahvad/mansingl.htm
27 August 2014 16:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The Russian government surprised everyone, and sparked major reactions internationally, when that country’s Ministry of Justice ordered 1 November 2012 the closure of Russian’s indigenous peoples umbrella organization RAIPON, because of an “alleged lack of correspondence between the association’s statutes and federal law”.
According to Russia’s Ministry of Justice the indigenous peoples association will be closed for six months, whereupon the statutes will have to be adjusted.
http://www.huntingtonnews.net/50110
“There is an extensive hike in the level of industrialization in the north, and the indigenous peoples are among the last barriers against the companies’ and state’s development of the resources. The authorities strongly dislike RAIPON’s extensive international engagement.” Sulyaudziga told newspaper Novaya Gazeta. “All basic rights of indigenous peoples are being taken out of federal legislation.” He added.
Furthermore, Sulyandziga informed that he knows that federal authorities are trying to establish alternative organizational structures, which could replace the role of RAIPON.
RAIPON represents more than 250,000 indigenous peoples, and is one of six indigenous organizations that have the status of “permanent participants” at the Arctic Council, that don’t have votes, but have full consultation rights and are part of all discussions
RAIPON has in its more than 20 years of its existence worked actively to protect indigenous peoples’ human rights and legal interests, as well as to promote their right to self governance. RAIPON represents 40 groups of Indigenous peoples inhabiting huge Arctic territories of the Russian Federation from Murmansk to Kamchatka.
According to Russia’s Ministry of Justice the indigenous peoples association will be closed for six months, whereupon the statutes will have to be adjusted.
http://www.huntingtonnews.net/50110
“There is an extensive hike in the level of industrialization in the north, and the indigenous peoples are among the last barriers against the companies’ and state’s development of the resources. The authorities strongly dislike RAIPON’s extensive international engagement.” Sulyaudziga told newspaper Novaya Gazeta. “All basic rights of indigenous peoples are being taken out of federal legislation.” He added.
Furthermore, Sulyandziga informed that he knows that federal authorities are trying to establish alternative organizational structures, which could replace the role of RAIPON.
RAIPON represents more than 250,000 indigenous peoples, and is one of six indigenous organizations that have the status of “permanent participants” at the Arctic Council, that don’t have votes, but have full consultation rights and are part of all discussions
RAIPON has in its more than 20 years of its existence worked actively to protect indigenous peoples’ human rights and legal interests, as well as to promote their right to self governance. RAIPON represents 40 groups of Indigenous peoples inhabiting huge Arctic territories of the Russian Federation from Murmansk to Kamchatka.
http://www.huntingtonnews.net/50110
27 August 2014 15:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
An important initiative by the minorities themselves was the formation of the embracing "First Congress of the Small Peoples of the North" in Moscow, March 1990. It resulted in the establishment of the "Russian Association of Indigenous Minorities of the North, Siberia and the Far East" (RAIPON), under the first elected president, Vladimir Sangi (Nivkh), who was later replaced by Yeremey Aypin (Khant) and then by Sergey Kharyuchi (Nenets). The association became the official representation of the Northern indigenous people towards Russian authorities and government. International institution building programmes, initiated by ICC (Inuit Circumpolar Conference) Canada in 1995, helped to develop the organisation into a significant political tool which today spearheads the peoples' struggle for survival.
In 1998, RAIPON - together with the other embracing Arctic indigenous peoples' organisations, Saami Council, ICC and Aleut International Association - was accepted as a permanent participant in the newly established (1996) Arctic Council. The main goal of this council is international co-ordination of development in the Arctic, with the pronounced participation of her indigenous populations
Native communities are trying to go back to their traditional social clan structure and to revive the old ways of life in order to survive the present socio-economic crisis. The newly developed consciousness among the people, that their future is in their own hands, was nothing but a rhetoric phrase just a little more than a decade ago.
The way the indigenous peoples of Russia have chosen is the one of partnership - with their neighbours, with the authorities - and at the global level. They are increasingly accepted as equal partners in the process of sustainable development in international fora. Progress at the domestic level is still very slow due to the reactionary behaviour of many local officials. But they fight with endurance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Association_of_Indigenous_Peoples_of_the_North
In 1998, RAIPON - together with the other embracing Arctic indigenous peoples' organisations, Saami Council, ICC and Aleut International Association - was accepted as a permanent participant in the newly established (1996) Arctic Council. The main goal of this council is international co-ordination of development in the Arctic, with the pronounced participation of her indigenous populations
Native communities are trying to go back to their traditional social clan structure and to revive the old ways of life in order to survive the present socio-economic crisis. The newly developed consciousness among the people, that their future is in their own hands, was nothing but a rhetoric phrase just a little more than a decade ago.
The way the indigenous peoples of Russia have chosen is the one of partnership - with their neighbours, with the authorities - and at the global level. They are increasingly accepted as equal partners in the process of sustainable development in international fora. Progress at the domestic level is still very slow due to the reactionary behaviour of many local officials. But they fight with endurance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Association_of_Indigenous_Peoples_of_the_North
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Association_of_Indigenous_Peoples_of_the_North
27 August 2014 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on Anneli Peterson's post.
... aint vahetevahel on päris
27 August 2014 04:39
Margus Meigo commented on Anneli Peterson's post.
siiamaani ei soovi:p
27 August 2014 04:38
Margus Meigo commented on Gilbert Dreschke's post.
Yes am did, doing alight : )
In Estonia now
In Estonia now
27 August 2014 04:38
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's post.
Tarvis. ikka tarvis : ))
27 August 2014 04:29
Margus Meigo commented on Marek Lewandowski's post.
Tervist ikka tarvis, tervist Sulle ka Marek Lewandowski
27 August 2014 04:26
Margus Meigo commented on Anneli Peterson's post.
Tsau Tsau armas ise ka : )
27 August 2014 04:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yeah, useful, useful..
27 August 2014 04:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Did anyone read it by now ?
27 August 2014 04:21
Margus Meigo commented on Kai Kulbok's post.
Mmmm, vanad head neljapäevad
27 August 2014 04:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But once we take..
27 August 2014 04:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
what you mean "youre not" :D
27 August 2014 04:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
( ... )
27 August 2014 04:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Still hoping for it :D
27 August 2014 04:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Why would this system here delete all that data...
27 August 2014 04:17
Margus Meigo commented on Adam Cullen's post.
did you get over of pohmell jet ?
27 August 2014 04:11
Margus Meigo commented on Alis Raudsepp's post.
ikka :)
27 August 2014 04:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own friendship.
Aasta veel siis psüholoogid räägivad, et pidi eluks ajaks olema :)
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/61009769925144839/
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/61009769925144839/
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/61009769925144839/
27 August 2014 04:09
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Ha Ha:D
mis mõttes teise minaga https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCjNp2bkSrE :D
mis mõttes teise minaga https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCjNp2bkSrE :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCjNp2bkSrE
27 August 2014 04:07
Margus Meigo commented on Kai Kulbok's post.
Nu kuidas oli?
27 August 2014 04:05
Margus Meigo commented on Julieann Laosantos Tumale's post.
You 2 :)
27 August 2014 04:05
Margus Meigo commented on Liina Wrublewski's post.
Siiamaani rahul :)
27 August 2014 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on Evelin Ilves's post.
"Iga inimese elus on õnnelikke ja kurbi hetki. Nüüd, kui on rasked ajad - ja need pole Eesti ajaloos sugugi kõige raskemad -, on mul palju tuttavaid, kes ütlevad, et see on parim aeg alustada millegi uuega. Kui sul enam midagi ei ole, siis leiad ehk just selle õige teeotsa," mõtiskleb Ärma perenaine. 2010
http://www.parnupostimees.ee/259944/arma-talu-perenaine-usaldab-talupojatarkust
http://www.parnupostimees.ee/259944/arma-talu-perenaine-usaldab-talupojatarkust
http://www.parnupostimees.ee/259944/arma-talu-perenaine-usaldab-talupojatarkust
27 August 2014 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://justpaste.it/gu27
https://justpaste.it/gu27
27 August 2014 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_peasant_revolts
Chen's quote "王侯將相寧有種乎" (wáng hóu jiāng xiāng níng yǒu zhǒng hu, "Are kings and nobles given their high status by birth?"), meaning that every man, regardless of birth, can become something great if he exerts himself.
Dazexiang Uprising 209 BC
Yellow Turban Rebellion 184
Bagaudae in 3rd- to 5th-century Gaul and Hispania
Stellinga
Rebellions of Basil the Copper Hand in the Byzantine Empire (920s–930s)
Popular revolt in late-medieval Europe:
Ivaylo rebellion in Bulgaria (1277–1280)
Peasant revolt in Flanders 1323–1328
St. George's Night Uprising in Estonia (1343–1345)
Jacquerie in France (1358)
Revolt of the Ciompi in Italy (1378)
Peasants' Revolt in England (1381)
Harelle in France (1382)
Budai Nagy Antal Revolt in Hungary (1437)
Funen and Jutland Peasant rebellions (1441)
Jack Cade's rebellion (1450)
John and William Merfold's uprising (1450–1451)
Ikkō-ikki in Japan (1488–1588)
Cruel Fat Thursday Revolt in Friuli (1511)
Poor Conrad rebellion in Württemberg (1514)
Dózsa rebellion in Hungary (1514)
Slovenian peasant revolt of 1515
German Peasants' War (1524–1526)
Dalecarlian Rebellions (1524–1533)
Battle of Svenstrup 1534, led by Skipper Clement, in what is known as the Skipper Clement's Rebellion, a part of the civil war in Denmark-Norway, known as the Count's Feud during the reformation in Scandinavia.
Opryshky Movement, led by the legendary Oleksa Dovbush (1529–19th century)
Peasant's Rebellion in Telemark, Norway (1540)
Kett's Rebellion in England (1549)
Club War in Finland (1596–1597)
Croatian–Slovenian peasant revolt (1573)
Ivan Bolotnikov (1606–1607)
Peasants' War in Upper Austria (1626)
Kostka-Napierski Uprising (1651)
Swiss peasant war of 1653
Stenka Razin (1670)
Bulavin Rebellion (1707–1708)
Pugachev's Rebellion (1773–1775)
Revolt of Horea, Cloșca and Crișan (1784–1785)
Saxon Peasants' Revolt (1790)
Peasants' War (1798)
1834 Arab revolt in Palestine
Galician slaughter (1846)
Taiping Rebellion (1851)
Mahtra War in Estonia (1858)
Chichibu Incident in Japan (1884)
1907 Romanian Peasants' Revolt (1907)
Peasant Revolt in Albania (1914)
Tambov Uprising (1920–1921)
1932 Salvadoran peasant massacre (1932)
Tebhaga movement (1946)
Telangana Rebellion (1946)
Cazin Uprising (1950)
Chen's quote "王侯將相寧有種乎" (wáng hóu jiāng xiāng níng yǒu zhǒng hu, "Are kings and nobles given their high status by birth?"), meaning that every man, regardless of birth, can become something great if he exerts himself.
Dazexiang Uprising 209 BC
Yellow Turban Rebellion 184
Bagaudae in 3rd- to 5th-century Gaul and Hispania
Stellinga
Rebellions of Basil the Copper Hand in the Byzantine Empire (920s–930s)
Popular revolt in late-medieval Europe:
Ivaylo rebellion in Bulgaria (1277–1280)
Peasant revolt in Flanders 1323–1328
St. George's Night Uprising in Estonia (1343–1345)
Jacquerie in France (1358)
Revolt of the Ciompi in Italy (1378)
Peasants' Revolt in England (1381)
Harelle in France (1382)
Budai Nagy Antal Revolt in Hungary (1437)
Funen and Jutland Peasant rebellions (1441)
Jack Cade's rebellion (1450)
John and William Merfold's uprising (1450–1451)
Ikkō-ikki in Japan (1488–1588)
Cruel Fat Thursday Revolt in Friuli (1511)
Poor Conrad rebellion in Württemberg (1514)
Dózsa rebellion in Hungary (1514)
Slovenian peasant revolt of 1515
German Peasants' War (1524–1526)
Dalecarlian Rebellions (1524–1533)
Battle of Svenstrup 1534, led by Skipper Clement, in what is known as the Skipper Clement's Rebellion, a part of the civil war in Denmark-Norway, known as the Count's Feud during the reformation in Scandinavia.
Opryshky Movement, led by the legendary Oleksa Dovbush (1529–19th century)
Peasant's Rebellion in Telemark, Norway (1540)
Kett's Rebellion in England (1549)
Club War in Finland (1596–1597)
Croatian–Slovenian peasant revolt (1573)
Ivan Bolotnikov (1606–1607)
Peasants' War in Upper Austria (1626)
Kostka-Napierski Uprising (1651)
Swiss peasant war of 1653
Stenka Razin (1670)
Bulavin Rebellion (1707–1708)
Pugachev's Rebellion (1773–1775)
Revolt of Horea, Cloșca and Crișan (1784–1785)
Saxon Peasants' Revolt (1790)
Peasants' War (1798)
1834 Arab revolt in Palestine
Galician slaughter (1846)
Taiping Rebellion (1851)
Mahtra War in Estonia (1858)
Chichibu Incident in Japan (1884)
1907 Romanian Peasants' Revolt (1907)
Peasant Revolt in Albania (1914)
Tambov Uprising (1920–1921)
1932 Salvadoran peasant massacre (1932)
Tebhaga movement (1946)
Telangana Rebellion (1946)
Cazin Uprising (1950)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_peasant_revolts
27 August 2014 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Peasants%27_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Peasants%27_War
27 August 2014 00:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasants%27_Revolt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasants%27_Revolt
27 August 2014 00:53
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Can you imagine, there is only on island left and this dude have to end up in there
Communist feminism is mind control but proper religious patriarchy is only way to go to heaven if we ever want to get things right in our soul and planet
Communist feminism is mind control but proper religious patriarchy is only way to go to heaven if we ever want to get things right in our soul and planet
27 August 2014 00:44
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
shit like egyptian.. gets all new meme now
27 August 2014 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
am one of the underground feminist group member bdw so i can have freedom to say She does not serve any feminist cause really, femine would be if she will take washing liquid and will clean this cloth up in river, while preferable looking still sensual, for finishing touch making it smell nice with lemon
not that many of us man would care less how flag is smelling while we shooting under it but its cute so thats how ya should do it, Women
not that many of us man would care less how flag is smelling while we shooting under it but its cute so thats how ya should do it, Women
27 August 2014 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
This is really small turd and why in the world would naked women have blood all over the legs as well,
If someone is making something most far out sick, something against women then make at least real not fake one, (as this will be punished on hundreds of ordinary women just for them having boobs as well )
I want a close up of that one, HD, seeing all the action as two girls in cup did, (for investigative reasons)
screw that Japan stile "block the cunt" box, ... okey maybe there is actually REAL picture in HD up somewhere (really do not want that on my google history,but if you can find let me know), as it would be really ..( .:. ).. TO Do that, on someone flag, symbol with what some good people have relationship with perhaps,
and then
block, censor your pussy to be all PG13
are you serious ??
This plastic women needs to be taken to the woods with elders and they should tell her how to have morals by smoking some herbs while on magic mushrooms, THEN She can see, what she agreed to do for these sick man behind a camera.
Feminist, yeah, sure
If someone is making something most far out sick, something against women then make at least real not fake one, (as this will be punished on hundreds of ordinary women just for them having boobs as well )
I want a close up of that one, HD, seeing all the action as two girls in cup did, (for investigative reasons)
screw that Japan stile "block the cunt" box, ... okey maybe there is actually REAL picture in HD up somewhere (really do not want that on my google history,but if you can find let me know), as it would be really ..( .:. ).. TO Do that, on someone flag, symbol with what some good people have relationship with perhaps,
and then
block, censor your pussy to be all PG13
are you serious ??
This plastic women needs to be taken to the woods with elders and they should tell her how to have morals by smoking some herbs while on magic mushrooms, THEN She can see, what she agreed to do for these sick man behind a camera.
Feminist, yeah, sure
27 August 2014 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
Dead animals, dead potatoes
Beans are great!
Beans are great!
27 August 2014 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
This guy sounds good, wiking who can shoot and use Outlook as well
http://beyondsof.com/special-forces-cif-tssci-sniper-sfartaetc-aso-ii-fluent-russian-native/
http://beyondsof.com/special-forces-cif-tssci-sniper-sfartaetc-aso-ii-fluent-russian-native/
http://beyondsof.com/special-forces-cif-tssci-sniper-sfartaetc-aso-ii-fluent-russian-native/
26 August 2014 23:05
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
BDW, first, Hitler Him self if he would be a killer minded, would shoot these people with these lame sings (he was vegan artist painter actually who did not want to build country up with slaves and idiots but with Natural creator given supreme forces we can interact with,...IF we keep the values of bible)
We here, are really smarter then that, then failing to see that THES sings are painted by Communists
(communists and capitalists are same group of domination in the end, five star IS the force they obey in one and another side. Stalin him self told in video, few videos he allowed to film about himself that "...and Devil is not as bad as we are made to think" ... He was deeply possessed person with really strong forces around him, not from "this world" ... )
But this is all small talk, real truths are more easy to see if we look it from the Love point of view
We here, are really smarter then that, then failing to see that THES sings are painted by Communists
(communists and capitalists are same group of domination in the end, five star IS the force they obey in one and another side. Stalin him self told in video, few videos he allowed to film about himself that "...and Devil is not as bad as we are made to think" ... He was deeply possessed person with really strong forces around him, not from "this world" ... )
But this is all small talk, real truths are more easy to see if we look it from the Love point of view
26 August 2014 13:56
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
@ same time... 50+Five Star army vehicles drive around in Ukraine and shoot people besides local hooligans who got guns (from same five star government) and do what they want in a normal stable country ...
they are beaten as long they agree to join NATO (other side of Five Star that uses their red friends to beat some one as long they obey one or another one... aim is one, to get rid of Nature and peasant cultures )
To make us dependant of artificial spirit so that if any culture does try to reject it in future it would be near impossible,
As of right is possible
http://www.gaianeconomics.org/peasant_culture.htm
they are beaten as long they agree to join NATO (other side of Five Star that uses their red friends to beat some one as long they obey one or another one... aim is one, to get rid of Nature and peasant cultures )
To make us dependant of artificial spirit so that if any culture does try to reject it in future it would be near impossible,
As of right is possible
http://www.gaianeconomics.org/peasant_culture.htm
http://www.gaianeconomics.org/peasant_culture.htm
26 August 2014 12:35
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Agree!
25 August 2014 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Reeeespect, Deep!
25 August 2014 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's post.
Unless in to this story also fits Creator , who is superior to this "a god"
25 August 2014 16:20
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's post.
No, we alone are not "a god"
25 August 2014 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
Calm penguin... calm... : )
25 August 2014 15:49
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's post.
Am not sure why but for some reason he kind of start to feel strange to me... kind of like great but something a bit more what is not needed
hmm have to think about that
hmm have to think about that
25 August 2014 14:45
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Tamme's post.
Group: Peenema elektri huvilised.
oh neid inimesi...25 August 2014 14:38
Margus Meigo commented on Lauri Lehtmäe's post.
Group: Peenema elektri huvilised.
Proovige ühendust võtta ka sellise eesti legendiga nagu "6hupall"
ta juba lapse eas ehitas päikse paneele ja tuule generaatoreid.
Tuiika anarhistide ja noorte keskuse ligidal peaks ta toimetama, sõitis tartu vahet ka oma enda ehitatud ja registreeritud elektri autoga varem25 August 2014 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
(am talking about Soul damage not just physical world)
25 August 2014 14:23
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
actually we should really not fish at all, way better and natural is to eat healthy fruits and vegetables, way more (but nature fish might not be harmful like eating supermarket meat)
25 August 2014 14:21
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
Yeah, like all the women want is great butts and balls :D
25 August 2014 14:20
Margus Meigo commented on Vít Pokorný's post.
Well, killing any animal is a bit retarded in my book
25 August 2014 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
kechup
25 August 2014 14:16
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
Tõsi
24 August 2014 19:21
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
good and smart girl, Navi looses way more losing Her then She
24 August 2014 19:20
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
Ta Sul niiii ilus : )
24 August 2014 19:20
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
I would also ANY time would leave from ANY organization that forces to cut of hair, (translation: cut off connection to Earth and more)
24 August 2014 19:19
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
its honesty
24 August 2014 19:17
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
But this is great, they should add this amount ekstra for workers at least, this is nice move to see also how much you yourself so called tipped the worker
24 August 2014 19:17
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
Me havent offered any fries
24 August 2014 19:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Synergetic Qabala. CHAPTER II: THE HIGH PRIESTESS ARTEMIS (PARADOXICAL VIRGIN-MOTHER)
http://zero-point.tripod.com/pantheon/ArtemisII.html
GODDESSES IN EVERY WOMAN, Jean Shinoda Bolin
THE GODDESS WITHIN, J. and R. Woolger
ANIMA, James Hillman
WOMAN'S MYSTERIES, M. Esther Harding
KNOWING WOMAN, Irene de Castillejo
THE MOON AND THE VIRGIN, Nor Hall
FACING THE GODS, James Hillman, ed.
THE MEANING OF APHRODITE, Paul Friedrich
THE VIRGIN ARCHETYPE, John Layard
THE GODDESS, Christine Downing
ALONE OF ALL HER SEX: MYTH & CULT OF THE VIRGIN MARY, Marina Warner
"The Net of Artemis: Text, Complex," S. Simmer, DRAGONFLIES 1980
http://zero-point.tripod.com/pantheon/ArtemisII.html
GODDESSES IN EVERY WOMAN, Jean Shinoda Bolin
THE GODDESS WITHIN, J. and R. Woolger
ANIMA, James Hillman
WOMAN'S MYSTERIES, M. Esther Harding
KNOWING WOMAN, Irene de Castillejo
THE MOON AND THE VIRGIN, Nor Hall
FACING THE GODS, James Hillman, ed.
THE MEANING OF APHRODITE, Paul Friedrich
THE VIRGIN ARCHETYPE, John Layard
THE GODDESS, Christine Downing
ALONE OF ALL HER SEX: MYTH & CULT OF THE VIRGIN MARY, Marina Warner
"The Net of Artemis: Text, Complex," S. Simmer, DRAGONFLIES 1980
http://zero-point.tripod.com/pantheon/ArtemisII.html
24 August 2014 01:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
BUt also hear people like that, in this worry some world, specially if planing to jump in to these plants when lacking belief in Christianity, and in to female
http://visupview.blogspot.com/2010/10/cults-gangs-dope-and-intelligence.html
(he talks abut that guy http://www.american-buddha.com/stepping.holy.toes.htm )
http://visupview.blogspot.com/2010/10/cults-gangs-dope-and-intelligence.html
(he talks abut that guy http://www.american-buddha.com/stepping.holy.toes.htm )
http://visupview.blogspot.com/2010/10/cults-gangs-dope-and-intelligence.html
24 August 2014 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.uic.edu/classes/pmpr/pmpr652/Final/Bailey/subabuse.html
http://teleomorph.com/category/psychoactivity-2/salvia-divinorum/
IMPLICATIONS OF LSD AND EXPERIMENTAL MYSTICISM'
Walter N. Pahnke, Maryland Psychiatric Research Center andJohn Hopkins University Medical School. William A. Richards, Maryland Psychiatric Research Center
http://www.atpweb.org/jtparchive/trps-01-69-02-069.pdf
http://www.plantandoconsciencia.org/ecodelics/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneirogen
http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1985-31027-001
http://universal_lexikon.deacademic.com/146980/Phantastikum
http://hallucinations.enacademic.com/1236/mysticomimetic
http://teleomorph.com/category/psychoactivity-2/salvia-divinorum/
IMPLICATIONS OF LSD AND EXPERIMENTAL MYSTICISM'
Walter N. Pahnke, Maryland Psychiatric Research Center andJohn Hopkins University Medical School. William A. Richards, Maryland Psychiatric Research Center
http://www.atpweb.org/jtparchive/trps-01-69-02-069.pdf
http://www.plantandoconsciencia.org/ecodelics/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneirogen
http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1985-31027-001
http://universal_lexikon.deacademic.com/146980/Phantastikum
http://hallucinations.enacademic.com/1236/mysticomimetic
http://www.uic.edu/classes/pmpr/pmpr652/Final/Bailey/subabuse.html
24 August 2014 00:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=GI237028
Methods and Practices: The Relationship Between Smart Government and Smart Cities
"Both concepts are concerned with sustainable practices, both financial and environmental, and both use innovation in social media, mobility, Big data/analytics, and cloud computing to improve service delivery to citizens," says Ruthbea Yesner Clarke, director of the Smart Cities Strategies program. "Beyond the hype surrounding the terms, we believe these are real and measurable initiatives happening in government."
Singapore, United States, Western Europe
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http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=DR2014_LSIS2_SS
Understanding Google
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=lcUS24654314
Catch and Release: Google Sells Motorola to Lenovo
By: Ramon T. Llamas, Crawford Del Prete, Danielle Levitas, John Jackson, William Stofega
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=CA7TM13
Telecom Network and ICT Technology Trends: Next Big Things
This IDC study examines the technological drivers behind ICT transformation and identifies and describes five key interrelated trends that are driving network change in the immediate two- to five-year future. We then take a closer examination of 10 state-of-the-art emerging technologies that will transform global communications and electronics in the longer-term horizon over the next decade or more.
Analytic applications, Big Data infrastructure, Broadband, Consumer device semiconductor, Ethernet switch, Internet of things, Routers, Telecommunications, VoIP, VoIP client, WiMAX, Wireless LAN infrastructure, Wireless and mobile infrastructure, Wireless and wired communications semiconductor
Methods and Practices: The Relationship Between Smart Government and Smart Cities
"Both concepts are concerned with sustainable practices, both financial and environmental, and both use innovation in social media, mobility, Big data/analytics, and cloud computing to improve service delivery to citizens," says Ruthbea Yesner Clarke, director of the Smart Cities Strategies program. "Beyond the hype surrounding the terms, we believe these are real and measurable initiatives happening in government."
Singapore, United States, Western Europe
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http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=DR2014_LSIS2_SS
Understanding Google
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=lcUS24654314
Catch and Release: Google Sells Motorola to Lenovo
By: Ramon T. Llamas, Crawford Del Prete, Danielle Levitas, John Jackson, William Stofega
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=CA7TM13
Telecom Network and ICT Technology Trends: Next Big Things
This IDC study examines the technological drivers behind ICT transformation and identifies and describes five key interrelated trends that are driving network change in the immediate two- to five-year future. We then take a closer examination of 10 state-of-the-art emerging technologies that will transform global communications and electronics in the longer-term horizon over the next decade or more.
Analytic applications, Big Data infrastructure, Broadband, Consumer device semiconductor, Ethernet switch, Internet of things, Routers, Telecommunications, VoIP, VoIP client, WiMAX, Wireless LAN infrastructure, Wireless and mobile infrastructure, Wireless and wired communications semiconductor
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=GI237028
23 August 2014 22:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=GI230760
Perspective: Benchmarking FY12 U.S. Federal Government IT Security Spending by Agency
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24158113
Government Insights Reports Highlight Department of Defense IT Spending
Shawn McCarthy, Research Director at IDC Government Insights, "Spending is likely to rise in FY 2014, with the preliminary spending targeted at more than $34 billion. Even with the rise, we expect this to be a temporary blip, as DoD continues to reduce its presence in the Middle East and works to standardize some older systems in order to consolidate resources and close some additional data centers.
Total IT budget for 2011 through 2013
The portion of the total budget spent on hardware, software, and IT services
DoD's top 15 programs or projects for IT spending
"Overall, IT needs at the Defense Department are growing, even as budgets are shrinking. DoD is now heavily focused on moving solutions to the cloud, and funding programs that help them consolidate data centers, work towards improved interoperability, and improve cyber security," continued McCarthy. "Because DoD is moving to a joint operations environment for many IT solutions, the largest growth is happening in the so-called 'other defense agencies,' which include organizations such as the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA), the Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA), and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA)."
Covered:
Lockheed Martin Corporation, RAYTHEON COMPANY, Hewlett-Packard Company
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=GI240994
The Top IT Contractors Serving the U.S. Department of Defense, 2013, IDC Government Insights #GI240995, forthcoming) focuses on top vendors and market share by specific DoD service or agency.
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=242346
Worldwide Specialized Threat Analysis and Protection 2013–2017 Forecast and 2012 Vendor Shares
defending against today's attacks, and intelligent solutions that use some combination of heuristic, behavioral, emulation, and sandboxing technologies are necessary to prevent infection and minimize risk."
Companies Covered:
CYLANCE INC., Check Point Software Technologies Ltd., MANDIANT CORPORATION, Sourcefire, Inc., Ahnlab, Inc., INVINCEA, INC., HBGary LLC, Fortinet, Inc., NORMAN ASA, Proofpoint, Inc., DAMBALLA, INC., Blue Coat Systems, Inc., CounterTack, Inc., EMC Corporation, Intel Corporation, ThreatTrack Security Inc., Bromium, Inc., Palo Alto Networks, Inc., Trend Micro Incorporated, Websense Inc, Cisco Systems, Inc., FIREEYE INC
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=GI236597#
Business Strategy: Big Data in Government — Promoters, Players, and Payoff
This IDC Government Insights report presents an overview of the technologies and services deployed in Big Data solutions and provide guidance for government decision makers interested in using business analytics and Big Data
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=CEMA20809
Russia Datacenter Services Market 2012 Revenue and 2013–2017 Forecast
Dataspace Incorporated, High Technology Technopark IT-park, Electronnaya Moskva Ltd., Selectel Ltd., INLINE Technologies Group, Ltd., IBS GROUP HOLDING LIMITED, Oversun, i-Teco, ISG Co.,Ltd, Linx Telecommunications B.V., CROC incorporated., Stack Telecommunication Solutions Ltd
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=ESE3W
Russia Security Software Market 2014–2018 Forecast and 2013 Vendor Shares
During 2013, government regulation was the major driving force on the Russian IT security market, with security software experiencing remarkable growth, particularly SVM and IAM solutions. Companies of all sizes across all verticals are seeking to achieve greater operational efficiency and ease of control over their IT infrastructures, making integrated IT security solutions an especially attractive option.
Perspective: Benchmarking FY12 U.S. Federal Government IT Security Spending by Agency
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24158113
Government Insights Reports Highlight Department of Defense IT Spending
Shawn McCarthy, Research Director at IDC Government Insights, "Spending is likely to rise in FY 2014, with the preliminary spending targeted at more than $34 billion. Even with the rise, we expect this to be a temporary blip, as DoD continues to reduce its presence in the Middle East and works to standardize some older systems in order to consolidate resources and close some additional data centers.
Total IT budget for 2011 through 2013
The portion of the total budget spent on hardware, software, and IT services
DoD's top 15 programs or projects for IT spending
"Overall, IT needs at the Defense Department are growing, even as budgets are shrinking. DoD is now heavily focused on moving solutions to the cloud, and funding programs that help them consolidate data centers, work towards improved interoperability, and improve cyber security," continued McCarthy. "Because DoD is moving to a joint operations environment for many IT solutions, the largest growth is happening in the so-called 'other defense agencies,' which include organizations such as the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA), the Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA), and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA)."
Covered:
Lockheed Martin Corporation, RAYTHEON COMPANY, Hewlett-Packard Company
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=GI240994
The Top IT Contractors Serving the U.S. Department of Defense, 2013, IDC Government Insights #GI240995, forthcoming) focuses on top vendors and market share by specific DoD service or agency.
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=242346
Worldwide Specialized Threat Analysis and Protection 2013–2017 Forecast and 2012 Vendor Shares
defending against today's attacks, and intelligent solutions that use some combination of heuristic, behavioral, emulation, and sandboxing technologies are necessary to prevent infection and minimize risk."
Companies Covered:
CYLANCE INC., Check Point Software Technologies Ltd., MANDIANT CORPORATION, Sourcefire, Inc., Ahnlab, Inc., INVINCEA, INC., HBGary LLC, Fortinet, Inc., NORMAN ASA, Proofpoint, Inc., DAMBALLA, INC., Blue Coat Systems, Inc., CounterTack, Inc., EMC Corporation, Intel Corporation, ThreatTrack Security Inc., Bromium, Inc., Palo Alto Networks, Inc., Trend Micro Incorporated, Websense Inc, Cisco Systems, Inc., FIREEYE INC
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=GI236597#
Business Strategy: Big Data in Government — Promoters, Players, and Payoff
This IDC Government Insights report presents an overview of the technologies and services deployed in Big Data solutions and provide guidance for government decision makers interested in using business analytics and Big Data
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=CEMA20809
Russia Datacenter Services Market 2012 Revenue and 2013–2017 Forecast
Dataspace Incorporated, High Technology Technopark IT-park, Electronnaya Moskva Ltd., Selectel Ltd., INLINE Technologies Group, Ltd., IBS GROUP HOLDING LIMITED, Oversun, i-Teco, ISG Co.,Ltd, Linx Telecommunications B.V., CROC incorporated., Stack Telecommunication Solutions Ltd
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=ESE3W
Russia Security Software Market 2014–2018 Forecast and 2013 Vendor Shares
During 2013, government regulation was the major driving force on the Russian IT security market, with security software experiencing remarkable growth, particularly SVM and IAM solutions. Companies of all sizes across all verticals are seeking to achieve greater operational efficiency and ease of control over their IT infrastructures, making integrated IT security solutions an especially attractive option.
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=GI230760
23 August 2014 22:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=lcUS24787514
Microsoft Comes to Terms with a New World Order
April 03, 2014
By: Al Gillen, Al Hilwa, Brett Waldman
(Topics Covered:
Android, App stores, Application development software, Infrastructure as a service, Internet of things, Mobile platform, Operating systems and subsystems, Smartphone, Touchscreen, Windows mobile, iOS, iPad )
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=WC20140508
This IDC Web Conference discusses IDC's new outlook for the overall IT market in 2014. The worldwide IT market is undergoing a period of dramatic transformation, as vendors and buyers alike adjust to a new world order driven by mobile-first, cloud-first strategies amid ongoing macroeconomic volatility.
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=AP245751
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=AP243802
Asia/Pacific (Excluding Japan) Social Business and Social Media 2014 Top 10 Predictions
By: Daniel-Zoe Jimenez, Claus Mortensen, Craig Stires
By: Charles Anderson, Ashadi Cahyadi, Cyrus Daruwala, Adrian Dominic Ho, Christopher Holmes, Daniel-Zoe Jimenez, William Lee, Ph.D., Chris Morris, Claus Mortensen, Sash Mukherjee, Sandra Ng, Lam Nguyen, Simon Piff, Venu Reddy, Avneesh Saxena, Ian Song, Craig Stires, Lianfeng W
Big Data, cloud, mobility, and social will have a huge impact on how IT is adopted in 2014.
"IDC envisions 2014 to be a year of transformation for vendors and service providers in the ICT space. No vendor's or service provider's business is safe from disruption in today's market, as 3rd Platform technologies are revolutionizing the areas of software, communications, hardware, and even services," says Claus Mortensen, director, Emerging Technologies, Digital Marketplace and New Media.
Companies Covered:
YouTube Inc, Twitter, Inc., Facebook, Inc., Google Inc.
Topics Covered:
Analytic applications, Big Data analytics and discovery, Enterprise social software, Market intelligence, Marketing automation, Mobile platform, Online advertising, Online gaming, Sales enablement, Social networking, TV phone, eCommerce
Microsoft Comes to Terms with a New World Order
April 03, 2014
By: Al Gillen, Al Hilwa, Brett Waldman
(Topics Covered:
Android, App stores, Application development software, Infrastructure as a service, Internet of things, Mobile platform, Operating systems and subsystems, Smartphone, Touchscreen, Windows mobile, iOS, iPad )
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=WC20140508
This IDC Web Conference discusses IDC's new outlook for the overall IT market in 2014. The worldwide IT market is undergoing a period of dramatic transformation, as vendors and buyers alike adjust to a new world order driven by mobile-first, cloud-first strategies amid ongoing macroeconomic volatility.
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=AP245751
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=AP243802
Asia/Pacific (Excluding Japan) Social Business and Social Media 2014 Top 10 Predictions
By: Daniel-Zoe Jimenez, Claus Mortensen, Craig Stires
By: Charles Anderson, Ashadi Cahyadi, Cyrus Daruwala, Adrian Dominic Ho, Christopher Holmes, Daniel-Zoe Jimenez, William Lee, Ph.D., Chris Morris, Claus Mortensen, Sash Mukherjee, Sandra Ng, Lam Nguyen, Simon Piff, Venu Reddy, Avneesh Saxena, Ian Song, Craig Stires, Lianfeng W
Big Data, cloud, mobility, and social will have a huge impact on how IT is adopted in 2014.
"IDC envisions 2014 to be a year of transformation for vendors and service providers in the ICT space. No vendor's or service provider's business is safe from disruption in today's market, as 3rd Platform technologies are revolutionizing the areas of software, communications, hardware, and even services," says Claus Mortensen, director, Emerging Technologies, Digital Marketplace and New Media.
Companies Covered:
YouTube Inc, Twitter, Inc., Facebook, Inc., Google Inc.
Topics Covered:
Analytic applications, Big Data analytics and discovery, Enterprise social software, Market intelligence, Marketing automation, Mobile platform, Online advertising, Online gaming, Sales enablement, Social networking, TV phone, eCommerce
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=lcUS24787514
23 August 2014 22:33
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's post.
This is one good looking boy : )
23 August 2014 08:46
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
this is good copper, he is honest and warned also arrogant journalist running with camera over a border what is not needed,
if gang member stabs some one you will also not put your head in to action, you stay away a bit, use Zoom if need to get close up, but its actually law for reasonable reasons that then one with gun is arresting someone, then just random people should not come to close (who might be friends of arrested ones, and attack cop, grab ones gun and shoot, or just bothers job with anoyng remarks in harsh situation) ..
i can only see journalist to be an idiot here
if gang member stabs some one you will also not put your head in to action, you stay away a bit, use Zoom if need to get close up, but its actually law for reasonable reasons that then one with gun is arresting someone, then just random people should not come to close (who might be friends of arrested ones, and attack cop, grab ones gun and shoot, or just bothers job with anoyng remarks in harsh situation) ..
i can only see journalist to be an idiot here
23 August 2014 08:13
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
But not as many and good ones as proper straight loving couples
just assuming, all this cosmic connection and joining of the Souls in proper manner might just give this extra tingle She needs..
just assuming, all this cosmic connection and joining of the Souls in proper manner might just give this extra tingle She needs..
23 August 2014 08:06
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's post.
Ha you shared that one already :D
23 August 2014 07:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
23 August 2014 07:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hea küsimus, vist faceril ka miski facedetection ja siis tuli sisse, siin veel paar nime pani kohe.. mõtlesini mis teema on : )
23 August 2014 03:09
Margus Meigo commented on Evelin Ilves's post.
Peamine, et mees jääb arusaama, et Naine on oluliseim
22 August 2014 21:45
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
Palju Palju Õnne ka vahva onu poolt!
22 August 2014 21:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Keltrian Druid
Yes that is true and basic truth of bible as well,
But what about the main question ? Often people start to talk about something else but there is reason i posted this question to more then tens of other groups, as there is many reasons really actually, but mostly i want to see people approach to this important question that was relevant to majority of planet people thinking in past times21 August 2014 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Keltrian Druid
unless She is a pig you know21 August 2014 06:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Keltrian Druid
But in marriage, should man have any secrets from wife ?21 August 2014 06:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Keltrian Druid
True, true,
also proverbs "Whoever goes about slandering reveals secrets, but he who is trustworthy in spirit keeps a thing covered. "
... ( lol, and in Mark "For nothing is hidden, except to be revealed; nor has anything been secret, but that it would come to light" )21 August 2014 06:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Theology
Or is there some really needed secrets that humans must keep for Nature, Creator sake?21 August 2014 05:47
Margus Meigo commented on Dhiman Darwish's link.
For sure : )
Specially on psychdellics we can see what they can reveal.. in full pictures
Specially on psychdellics we can see what they can reveal.. in full pictures
21 August 2014 05:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: DRUIDA RITUALES
I belive secrets to be no benafit for humans really21 August 2014 05:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: How to be a Druid Grove
Becouse?
Can i answer you same that i answered in last post when you posted exatly same reply?21 August 2014 05:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Keltrian Druid
its really awesame technollagy.
But this is besides the point, what do you think about secrecy, is it retardeness of human species or is it needed to keep nature safe ?21 August 2014 05:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Keltrian Druid
By what standards the cross, that is symbol for sword and human as well for me, should be even? Its not an car weel you know.
And as we know, this "book" is more then about geometrics21 August 2014 05:12
Margus Meigo commented on Amy L Wheeler's post.
Group: Pacific NW Druids
This is one great picture, truly
For here21 August 2014 04:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Ayahuasca
we kind of end up there from where we started from but now we got beards as well with parents and kids . ))21 August 2014 04:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Ayahuasca
Actually they do, even thought if we do not bother to use them right it does seem opposite21 August 2014 04:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: JW.ORG /Bible Teachings OF JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES
How you see?21 August 2014 03:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Philosophy Takeaway
For me the belief of secrets is kind of like strange one.. why should we..
okey, but at least once we get word sorten out we should not keep these beliefs maybe ?
As i think it makes seperation and unproductive evolution between minds,
Also seperation from nature and limiting our self mind, the belief in to secrets21 August 2014 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: SoFP → Templar
Am kind of thinking that these secret keeping belief is the one that help us to forget things...21 August 2014 03:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Hacking Universe
Thats why we got a hackers, also : ))21 August 2014 03:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: С С С Р
How do you feel?21 August 2014 03:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: LSD DMT and Psychedelic drugs in perspective
or other soul opening plants21 August 2014 03:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: I'm proud to say that LSD-25 has contributed positively to my life.
Was there something that LSD helped you to reveal ?21 August 2014 03:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: LSD DMT and Psychedelic drugs in perspective
Does LSD helped you to unravel the secrets, what its called?21 August 2014 03:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Gnostic University
Ofcourse, heathy dosage magic mushrooms might help21 August 2014 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on Stuart Mclaren's post.
Group: The Alien Empire
(if it is truth, that there is only 80 species and versions of entities we can contact to... then that would be... bu what aabout all the bees and trees we can communicate way deeper level ?)21 August 2014 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on Stuart Mclaren's post.
Group: The Alien Empire
any kind of numbers here is irrelevant really, just open up ezekieel... and think who in the beginning of bible had sex with humans...
and realize, you live in spiritual world governed by cosmic psyciatrist really21 August 2014 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Tiits's photo.
Wou, oppa : )
Tase, tegelt
Paljud muud eesti noored arvavad, et piisab küll kui hea diplom koolist saada ning kui jõuab panga laenu maksta siis juba päris hea :D
Tase, tegelt
Paljud muud eesti noored arvavad, et piisab küll kui hea diplom koolist saada ning kui jõuab panga laenu maksta siis juba päris hea :D
21 August 2014 02:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Extra-Terrestrial Races & Civilizations
But in right order, right.. ?21 August 2014 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Mitte, et mulle kassi tegevus meeldib, et krokole haiget teeb aga päris hea looduse video : )
21 August 2014 02:48
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
peaks nendele mees õiguslastele saatma
21 August 2014 02:43
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Tiits's photo.
ma alguses mõtlesin, et üks enne ja teine pärast pilt
noh, õige teravus ja jõud on kaela ümber :P
noh, õige teravus ja jõud on kaela ümber :P
21 August 2014 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Sirius UFO Research Australia
Good to keep in mind, when thinking about what will be and is21 August 2014 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
You agree, right ?21 August 2014 01:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Alchemy Study
...and alchemy will be known as how things are .. :)21 August 2014 01:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kundalini and Multi-Dimensional Consciousness
And then people will know about Kundalini and all : ))21 August 2014 01:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Ayahuasca
Am always kind of see it as only possible way when interacting with spirit world21 August 2014 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Anonymous
Do you belive humans can have any kind of secret @ all ?21 August 2014 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
For nothing is hidden, except to be revealed; nor has anything been secret, but that it would come to light (Mark 4:22)
Generally i would trust really all humans as am talking as much i can with the God in them.. rest of it is just small game around person
that has nothing to make actual governant to worry about
I belive
Havat about you ?21 August 2014 01:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Cryonics Society
Thanks to hackers, laws, internet, faith, religion and use of all that what makes us want to reveal to get better.
Am just working on some clean way, how my eyes can be sure, that its shown to people from correct points of truth (the truth points can be indefinete number, bu directions shoulb be only on to one direction even if they appear to be opposite)21 August 2014 01:11
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
võtab kõhu lahti ja ninast vere välja kohe, nö :D
20 August 2014 12:16
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Kuid yeah.. see suht valus, räme ja shokeeriv on kui juppa aega dieedil oled olnud
20 August 2014 12:15
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
see pult ka, pane käest, et nagu silmadega vaatamiseks rohkem ja heal juhul näppimiseks, mitte et vaadata kõike sobiks mis liiguks..
20 August 2014 12:14
Margus Meigo commented on Jaan Ca's life event.
Nüüd Preili Reilil Jaan kogu aeg
20 August 2014 12:13
Margus Meigo commented on Jaan Ca's life event.
Yes jaan, saadi kätte sind lõpuks lõplikult!
20 August 2014 12:12
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Anti's link.
haha, china smacil ulme uudised, :D Huumorisoon neil hea
http://diaspora.chinasmack.com/2014/usa/stupid-chinese-and-japanese-devils-on-air-canada-flight.html
http://diaspora.chinasmack.com/2014/usa/stupid-chinese-and-japanese-devils-on-air-canada-flight.html
http://diaspora.chinasmack.com/2014/usa/stupid-chinese-and-japanese-devils-on-air-canada-flight.html
19 August 2014 20:51
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Anti's link.
jhon, elton jhon
19 August 2014 20:49
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Anti's link.
reaalsuse asi rohkem nagu, siin pole maitsta midagi, lisaks üks eesti oma juba selle pärast parem :D
50nest uudisest kiiranalüüsiga 90+ % oli surmaga seotud vist, nii ulme feed oli, et pidin uue potsituse aint sellest tegema :D
Esimese hea postituse leidsin Kate Busist, et to ütles oma fänidele, et nood nagu retardid ei käituks ja teda filmina moblaga ei hakkaks kui ta otsustab lavale tagasi tulla vaid naudiksid hetke ja etendust mis ta pakub (sest talle public performancid nagu ei meeldi tegelt, just selle pärast)
...ja selle uudise lasid nad ka sisse, sest arvasid, et see pop artisti uudis samas katekoorjas selle kuulsa homolauljaga .. mis ta nimi oligi, läks meelest
50nest uudisest kiiranalüüsiga 90+ % oli surmaga seotud vist, nii ulme feed oli, et pidin uue potsituse aint sellest tegema :D
Esimese hea postituse leidsin Kate Busist, et to ütles oma fänidele, et nood nagu retardid ei käituks ja teda filmina moblaga ei hakkaks kui ta otsustab lavale tagasi tulla vaid naudiksid hetke ja etendust mis ta pakub (sest talle public performancid nagu ei meeldi tegelt, just selle pärast)
...ja selle uudise lasid nad ka sisse, sest arvasid, et see pop artisti uudis samas katekoorjas selle kuulsa homolauljaga .. mis ta nimi oligi, läks meelest
19 August 2014 20:49
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Anti's link.
ausalt noh
19 August 2014 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Anti's link.
ei noh, postimees ikka kordades parem
19 August 2014 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Anti's link.
Muidu väga timm uudis (loe uudiste aluseid seotud uudiseit.. nagu ulme ajaleht :D:D )
19 August 2014 20:43
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Anti's link.
Muidugi nöör hundi kaelas ajas marru suts ja aiad, et nagu nad tulid ja ära ei võigi minna v?
Et nagu hundid tegid targa peaga kampaania, et näitame inimestele, et me ka Loomad, et inimestel miski huvitav info kandmise viis ja ilma pissi ja lõhnata kannavad infot kauge maa taha.. et ju seda ka kannavad enne kui me kõik maha notitud, ... ja näe... nüüd nöör ja puur...
Et give a human a All the chance to be good.. and He will find a way to screw it up
Et nagu hundid tegid targa peaga kampaania, et näitame inimestele, et me ka Loomad, et inimestel miski huvitav info kandmise viis ja ilma pissi ja lõhnata kannavad infot kauge maa taha.. et ju seda ka kannavad enne kui me kõik maha notitud, ... ja näe... nüüd nöör ja puur...
Et give a human a All the chance to be good.. and He will find a way to screw it up
19 August 2014 20:43
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanus Anti's link.
Ha kommentaar:
"it's highly offensive to call Belarus Russia"
"This happens because they let children or bone idle reporters to submit articles.Can't be bothered to check anything Minsk sounds a bit russian so we'll just guess that it is in Russia and not the capital of the independent country of Belarus."
"it's highly offensive to call Belarus Russia"
"This happens because they let children or bone idle reporters to submit articles.Can't be bothered to check anything Minsk sounds a bit russian so we'll just guess that it is in Russia and not the capital of the independent country of Belarus."
19 August 2014 20:18
Margus Meigo commented on Nana Kojo's post.
She is still always will be master of Him ... (unless Him want to be under mastery of Him..)
19 August 2014 13:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Ühesõnaga mis sa öelda tahtsid Rainer, et kui kõik kuulaks mis Margus ütleks, siis oleks maailm rahulikum, targem, Ilusam ning saaksime elatud paremini?
( vist veel muud miskit, kuid saan alustuseks seda aru mis hea, igaks juhuks )
( vist veel muud miskit, kuid saan alustuseks seda aru mis hea, igaks juhuks )
19 August 2014 10:19
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's post.
Here we are : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkS1nA0jB6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkS1nA0jB6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkS1nA0jB6s
18 August 2014 17:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Tütred tahavad tugevat isa armastavat kaitsvat rinda, tunnet, et see olemas, kes käega pai tehes rahulikult kogumaailma mured ära pühib kui embab, kes tulevasele peikale eeskujuks ja korrale kutsujaks hääleks saaks olla kui vaja rahu ja õiglust hoida. Turvatunne.
18 August 2014 15:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kui paljud pojad isaelutööd ja ta lapsepõlve unistusi mõistavad?
18 August 2014 14:23
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's post.
Great, i wish more adults with kids would play on these jumping things, they are great (well.. my self.. feel a bit two-faced as we here kids call me often to play on it and am spending time on computer more often)
Just for that i go to play on it now!
Just for that i go to play on it now!
18 August 2014 13:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Mehisele
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWcR3ogHRnY&index=2&list=PLao-w7OVFRCvNnu3Ccdso3LjHI8_FzRZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWcR3ogHRnY&index=2&list=PLao-w7OVFRCvNnu3Ccdso3LjHI8_FzRZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWcR3ogHRnY&index=2&list=PLao-w7OVFRCvNnu3Ccdso3LjHI8_FzRZY
18 August 2014 08:14
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's post.
Group: Family group
But here is great, for all kind of family discussions and shadings as well : )18 August 2014 07:29
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's post.
Group: Family group
the contact list is still good to make for sharing things on you wall and making post option from public to "family"18 August 2014 07:29
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's post.
Group: Family group
I actually thought as an family contact list group but his here is even better in some ways18 August 2014 07:27
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's post.
Group: Family group
actually it still shows that the owner of the post has privacy setting on so i can not see it18 August 2014 07:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Just one more thing lady: these comments you read that i copy are actually from good guys, ... but just now imagine yourself, if these are good guys talk and view of life and women.. how are the not good ones...
Yes and many of the not good ones wear tie and make big pucks, really big ones even sometimes. for who you are not more then disgusting napkin in earthly realm and something much deeper discuss against all of your being in spiritual level ,
and yes, they smile well, and their hair is nice often, as they can choose the body
really
Yes and many of the not good ones wear tie and make big pucks, really big ones even sometimes. for who you are not more then disgusting napkin in earthly realm and something much deeper discuss against all of your being in spiritual level ,
and yes, they smile well, and their hair is nice often, as they can choose the body
really
18 August 2014 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's post.
eks ta umbes nii ole jah
18 August 2014 00:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"All of Me" is a song by American contemporary R&B recording artist John Legend from his fourth studio album Love in the Future (2013). Legend co-wrote the song with Toby Gad and co-produced it with Dave Tozer. The song is a dedication to Legend's wife Chrissy Teigen.
Tobias "Toby" Gad is a Los Angeles-based hit producer and songwriter from Germany, perhaps best known for co-writing Fergie's Grammy nominated hit song "Big Girls Don't Cry"as well as co-writing and producing Beyoncé's worldwide #1 hit "If I Were a Boy", and The Veronicas multi-platinum #1 "Untouched".
At age four, Toby was expected to study banjo and join the "Jazz Kids" but he took to playing the piano instead. By the time he was seven, he and his brother Jens had formed their own band, the “Gad Rollers”, and played original rock'n roll compositions during intermissions of their parents' gigs. The newly found recognition around town led to performances in various radio and TV shows. Before long, Toby and Jens scored their first recording deal with hit-producer Gunther Mende, the writer of the Celine Dion hit "The Power of Love", however the deal was turned down by their parents, who felt education was more important.
He has worked with many super stars including Beyoncé (3x platinum), One Direction (2x platinum), Alicia Keys (platinum), Brandy (Billboard Top 20), John Legend (certified Gold), Demi Lovato (platinum single), Jessie J (4x platinum UK), Natasha Bedingfield (Billboard #3 & Gold), Pat Monahan, Fergie (nearly 4x platinum), American Idol Finalists Kelly Clarkson (platinum), Kris Allen, Lee DeWyze and Jessica Sanchez, Miley Cyrus (4x platinum), Selena Gomez (platinum), Donna Summer, The Veronicas (platinum), Koda Kumi; and has released over 200 records on major labels as a songwriter and/or producer.
Toby is the brother of Jens Gad, who has produced such successful German acts as Enigma and Sandra.
Toby has written several articles and given numerous talks and demonstrations about his recording and production techniques, as well as his approach to succeeding in the music industry.
"From Neve to Native" in Recording - The Magazine for the Recording Musician
"Logic Used Native - How I Work It" in Recording - The Magazine for the Recording Musician
"Logic Longhaul" in Mix Magazine
"Starting Over in USA"
"The Journey"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toby_Gad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Tozer
Tozer summed up his approach as a producer, stating, “Magic is what I’m after. Writing a great song, it's like you've tapped into some spirit that’s guiding you. The words flow, the dots connect, and you've created something with a mystical quality. You know that feeling when it comes. When I’m with an artist, I’m on the lookout for voodoo.”
Dave Tozer is a Grammy Award-winning music producer, songwriter, and musician. He has worked with several R&B, Hip-Hop, Rock and Pop artists including John Legend, Kanye West, Jay-Z, Justin Timberlake, John Mayer, Kimbra, Natasha Bedingfield, Musiq Soulchild, Emile Sande, Daniel Merriweather, Chrisette Michele, Mayer Hawthorne, Pixie Lott, Estelle, and Jazmine Sullivan.
Instruments Guitar, Bass, Keyboards, Programming, Drum Neuro-linguistic programming
Tobias "Toby" Gad is a Los Angeles-based hit producer and songwriter from Germany, perhaps best known for co-writing Fergie's Grammy nominated hit song "Big Girls Don't Cry"as well as co-writing and producing Beyoncé's worldwide #1 hit "If I Were a Boy", and The Veronicas multi-platinum #1 "Untouched".
At age four, Toby was expected to study banjo and join the "Jazz Kids" but he took to playing the piano instead. By the time he was seven, he and his brother Jens had formed their own band, the “Gad Rollers”, and played original rock'n roll compositions during intermissions of their parents' gigs. The newly found recognition around town led to performances in various radio and TV shows. Before long, Toby and Jens scored their first recording deal with hit-producer Gunther Mende, the writer of the Celine Dion hit "The Power of Love", however the deal was turned down by their parents, who felt education was more important.
He has worked with many super stars including Beyoncé (3x platinum), One Direction (2x platinum), Alicia Keys (platinum), Brandy (Billboard Top 20), John Legend (certified Gold), Demi Lovato (platinum single), Jessie J (4x platinum UK), Natasha Bedingfield (Billboard #3 & Gold), Pat Monahan, Fergie (nearly 4x platinum), American Idol Finalists Kelly Clarkson (platinum), Kris Allen, Lee DeWyze and Jessica Sanchez, Miley Cyrus (4x platinum), Selena Gomez (platinum), Donna Summer, The Veronicas (platinum), Koda Kumi; and has released over 200 records on major labels as a songwriter and/or producer.
Toby is the brother of Jens Gad, who has produced such successful German acts as Enigma and Sandra.
Toby has written several articles and given numerous talks and demonstrations about his recording and production techniques, as well as his approach to succeeding in the music industry.
"From Neve to Native" in Recording - The Magazine for the Recording Musician
"Logic Used Native - How I Work It" in Recording - The Magazine for the Recording Musician
"Logic Longhaul" in Mix Magazine
"Starting Over in USA"
"The Journey"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toby_Gad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Tozer
Tozer summed up his approach as a producer, stating, “Magic is what I’m after. Writing a great song, it's like you've tapped into some spirit that’s guiding you. The words flow, the dots connect, and you've created something with a mystical quality. You know that feeling when it comes. When I’m with an artist, I’m on the lookout for voodoo.”
Dave Tozer is a Grammy Award-winning music producer, songwriter, and musician. He has worked with several R&B, Hip-Hop, Rock and Pop artists including John Legend, Kanye West, Jay-Z, Justin Timberlake, John Mayer, Kimbra, Natasha Bedingfield, Musiq Soulchild, Emile Sande, Daniel Merriweather, Chrisette Michele, Mayer Hawthorne, Pixie Lott, Estelle, and Jazmine Sullivan.
Instruments Guitar, Bass, Keyboards, Programming, Drum Neuro-linguistic programming
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toby_Gad
17 August 2014 19:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
They often started with 'My Dear Mummy & Daddy' and talked about mundane things such as gardening and a 'vegetable patch'.
What you mean "mundane"
vegetables and gardening is way more important then these efforts they was working on
What you mean "mundane"
vegetables and gardening is way more important then these efforts they was working on
17 August 2014 17:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
More from the heart.. need even more from the heart, and she with camera work.. less fast.. near good : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwsYvBYZcx4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwsYvBYZcx4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwsYvBYZcx4
17 August 2014 17:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Still my favourite version up to now .)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39_OmBO9jVg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39_OmBO9jVg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39_OmBO9jVg
17 August 2014 16:46
Margus Meigo commented on Erik Miido's album.
Eriti vahva!
17 August 2014 16:37
Margus Meigo commented on iRadio's video.
Morgan looked this guy like "what an childish ..."
17 August 2014 16:36
Margus Meigo commented on iRadio's video.
ega tyybil ilma aegu pole nimi "Free Man"
17 August 2014 16:33
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
on ikka vavamägi!
17 August 2014 15:33
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
Siga: hakkasin mõtlema, et lisaks sellele, et ma oma hiina kalendri järgi naiivne olen ja kalendrit usun, siis muidu nad miskit lugu ikka ka rägivad mis miskites osades paika peavad
Hillari ajaloo tund:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_%28zodiac%29
"They are artistic, refined, intuitive, intelligent and well-mannered. These souls love the preliminaries in love, and are fine artists in their lovemaking. The Rabbit, Goat and Pig have been bestowed with calmer natures than the other 9 signs.
These three are compassionately aware, yet detached and resigned to their condition. They seek beauty and a sensitive love. They are caring, unique, self-sacrificing, obliging, sensible, creative, empathetic, tactful, and prudent. They can also be naive, pedantic, insecure, cunning, indecisive, and pessimistic."
The Snake is said to be the most incompatible with the Pig as the jovial character of the Pig is very opposite from that of the reserved and contemplative Snake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_%28Wu_Xing%29
"Water is the most yin in character of the Five elements. Its motion is downward and inward and its energy is stillness and conserving.
Water usually represents wealth and money luck in Feng Shui, although it might differ in some subjective scenarios. ( mu puhul see rikkuse teem momendil jah suts teine )
The negative emotion associated with water is fear/anxiety, while the positive emotion is calmness.
Black, Grey and Blue colours also represent Water.
Water is associated with the Winter, the the North, the sun, the color black, cold weather, night, and the Black Tortoise (Xuan Wu) "Black Warrior" - Kilpkonn ja Madu koos ühe loomana
Nende kohta räägitakse omakorda:
"Taoist legend has it that Xuan Wu was the prince of a Chinese ruler but was not interested in taking the throne, opting instead to leave his parents at age 16 and study Taoism.
According to the legend, he eventually achieved divine status and was worshiped as a deity of the northern sky.
Nagu algselt nad olid demoninskidkuid siis hakkasi heaks ja asusid inimestetreenimisega tegelema vist.
Nodega siis siga omakorda sõpruses kui õigesti lahti hammustasin
Hillari ajaloo tund:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_%28zodiac%29
"They are artistic, refined, intuitive, intelligent and well-mannered. These souls love the preliminaries in love, and are fine artists in their lovemaking. The Rabbit, Goat and Pig have been bestowed with calmer natures than the other 9 signs.
These three are compassionately aware, yet detached and resigned to their condition. They seek beauty and a sensitive love. They are caring, unique, self-sacrificing, obliging, sensible, creative, empathetic, tactful, and prudent. They can also be naive, pedantic, insecure, cunning, indecisive, and pessimistic."
The Snake is said to be the most incompatible with the Pig as the jovial character of the Pig is very opposite from that of the reserved and contemplative Snake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_%28Wu_Xing%29
"Water is the most yin in character of the Five elements. Its motion is downward and inward and its energy is stillness and conserving.
Water usually represents wealth and money luck in Feng Shui, although it might differ in some subjective scenarios. ( mu puhul see rikkuse teem momendil jah suts teine )
The negative emotion associated with water is fear/anxiety, while the positive emotion is calmness.
Black, Grey and Blue colours also represent Water.
Water is associated with the Winter, the the North, the sun, the color black, cold weather, night, and the Black Tortoise (Xuan Wu) "Black Warrior" - Kilpkonn ja Madu koos ühe loomana
Nende kohta räägitakse omakorda:
"Taoist legend has it that Xuan Wu was the prince of a Chinese ruler but was not interested in taking the throne, opting instead to leave his parents at age 16 and study Taoism.
According to the legend, he eventually achieved divine status and was worshiped as a deity of the northern sky.
Nagu algselt nad olid demoninskidkuid siis hakkasi heaks ja asusid inimestetreenimisega tegelema vist.
Nodega siis siga omakorda sõpruses kui õigesti lahti hammustasin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_%28zodiac%29
17 August 2014 15:14
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
näe, minu vanaisa:p
17 August 2014 15:09
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
ma alguses vaatasin, et sul õlad suitsevad :D:D:
17 August 2014 15:08
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
"mine psüholoogi juurde ma ei viitsi kuulata" hahaaha
17 August 2014 15:07
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
http://picosong.com/c6Pd/ mul see ka väga meeldima hakanud, kuid noh,,, JMKE ikka on nagu on
http://picosong.com/c6Pd/
17 August 2014 15:06
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
hahaha, hea :D
17 August 2014 15:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-3gPUrVmYA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-3gPUrVmYA
17 August 2014 07:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
with women in these arias as well, we will survive for sure : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uny5DPn23Jk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uny5DPn23Jk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uny5DPn23Jk
17 August 2014 02:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Pack that lyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uny5DPn23Jk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uny5DPn23Jk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uny5DPn23Jk
17 August 2014 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mesilaspäeva video eelmisest aastast:
(palju kenasi seotud videosi ka youtube lingist)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of0uRvQ7CYE
(palju kenasi seotud videosi ka youtube lingist)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of0uRvQ7CYE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of0uRvQ7CYE
16 August 2014 22:26
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
i only have friend zone
16 August 2014 22:12
Margus Meigo commented on Angel Atchazo Lerios's video.
Inimesed much more excited to see that human is washing dishes ... but keep looking calmly when they think one is jacking of like normal thing to watch.. "no homo" xD
16 August 2014 22:09
Margus Meigo commented on Donna L. Stevens's post.
an not even sure if that disturbing or good
16 August 2014 22:02
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Kuid enese armastamine on väga oluline ja hea sõnum ja ka see, et me peaksime oleme valmis alati ka arvama, et ka SIIS sama vapralt jätkame kui arvame, et võib olla võimalus, et me viimane inimene planeedile järgi jäänud kes midagi teha saab või soovib.
Ka siis jätkama peaksime sama vaikselt ja rahulikult
Ka siis jätkama peaksime sama vaikselt ja rahulikult
16 August 2014 22:00
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Tips's post.
Mina hoolin.
Ainult siis ta nii koledaks jääbki kui uskuma jääme, et keegi ei hooli.
Millionid ja sajad millionid hoolivad tegelikult...
Kuid mis mõte ja kelle jaoks ja kelle standari järgi siis ennast terveks ravid ?
Muidugi... kui tegelikult vaadata selle maailma hagusi siis seda nii palju kui, et elu jooksul ka keegi kokku ei jõuaks vast ainuüksi lugeda, kuid optimismis olles ma tean, et just meie saame selle ju teha parema suunas liikuvamaks,
midagi muud ju pole mõtet siin teha kui sügavalt mõelda? Et ikka aina paremaks.
Kuid seni kuni eraldi istume ja päris usus kokku ei saa, et otseselt aru saada, et me olemegiteineteise maailmade parandajad... siis suts aeglasti läheb meie enda jaoks...
Ma juba 10 aastat räägin inimestele, et hakkame pihta kuid üksi ma ka ei arva, et on õige alata, väga mitmel põhjusel. Milleks üks võibtõepoolest olla kasvõi argus või laiskus, mis siis, kuid siiani pole keegi soovinud... reaalselt alluda ja kuuletuda, maailma kasuks.
Miks küll.
10 inimest oleks juba VÄGA võimas grupp, üle 200 poleks isegi vaja tegelikult, minu plaani järgi
Ainult siis ta nii koledaks jääbki kui uskuma jääme, et keegi ei hooli.
Millionid ja sajad millionid hoolivad tegelikult...
Kuid mis mõte ja kelle jaoks ja kelle standari järgi siis ennast terveks ravid ?
Muidugi... kui tegelikult vaadata selle maailma hagusi siis seda nii palju kui, et elu jooksul ka keegi kokku ei jõuaks vast ainuüksi lugeda, kuid optimismis olles ma tean, et just meie saame selle ju teha parema suunas liikuvamaks,
midagi muud ju pole mõtet siin teha kui sügavalt mõelda? Et ikka aina paremaks.
Kuid seni kuni eraldi istume ja päris usus kokku ei saa, et otseselt aru saada, et me olemegiteineteise maailmade parandajad... siis suts aeglasti läheb meie enda jaoks...
Ma juba 10 aastat räägin inimestele, et hakkame pihta kuid üksi ma ka ei arva, et on õige alata, väga mitmel põhjusel. Milleks üks võibtõepoolest olla kasvõi argus või laiskus, mis siis, kuid siiani pole keegi soovinud... reaalselt alluda ja kuuletuda, maailma kasuks.
Miks küll.
10 inimest oleks juba VÄGA võimas grupp, üle 200 poleks isegi vaja tegelikult, minu plaani järgi
16 August 2014 21:58
Margus Meigo commented on Tingel Tangel's post.
most likely, trees will know, they female
16 August 2014 21:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
And talk gois on:
"please don't flame me for this.
but my wife has a natural hairless pussy. There's absolutely no hair surrounding the pussy except for a small tuff (about the size of a 50 cent coin) at the front, then it's smooth all the way at the sides.
I don't find it bad luck at all. in fact i think it's good luck. Cos before I met her, i was in a state of self destruction. My job, my family was almost in shambles.
Then I met her, and that changed my life around completely. We got married 2 years ago, and life is good!
I guess it's up to you to believe. but for me, i think it's goes beyond the "white tiger bit" it's about your compatability with your partner."
"everytime i think of your thread i start to laugh ......i also didnt like bald pussy...but then since there liao...i will still bonk....
wont bad luck la....or else ppl gamble i think they will still go GL bonk 1....like what bro offspring said"
"bro, i know many would think tat i was damn stupid not to bonk the gal spreading n ready in front of me, but well tat happened few yrs back when i was youngster, dumb n inexperience ... kekekekk
now tat many bros here hv given their opinions n shared their view, i dun think i will think again when i encounter such pussy again, juz bonk bonk bonk n bonk ... hehehe ... like wat many of the bros here said juz enjoy while we still can ...
yo bro to b honest, i like bald pussy lei, oledi like it in the past but din dare to bonk coz of tis stupid taboo (bonk only those shaven, not naturally hairless), but now changed liao thanks to the bros here for sharing their opinions n views ... past present n future will still like bald pussy, but tis time will need to change style, b it naturally hairless or shaven ... still need to bonk !!! ... ... shaven, clean, smooth ... damn sexy!! hehehe ... "
"Hairless bald pussies - bad luck?!? Old wives tales lah! If we are to believe every bloody superstition we Asians have to be true, the World will only be populated by Chinese, and all ang moh's and other races will be extinct! - Think about it!"
"hairless pussy is damn hard to find leh, if i found one i think im damn lucky!!!! Please let me know if any brother knows any girl with hairless bald natural pussy ok. thanks a million "
"I will take a bald one over a hairy one any day.
Tried a bushy pussy recently....WAH LAU........so bushy until got difficulty finding the entrance.This is a major turnoff for me."
"To b honest, same. I hv nvr seen a naturally hairless one. Probably I newbie, & nvr bonk enough compared to bros here."
"wa your list so long still not enough ar....
feel like asking you abt some of those that you tried hehe was eyeing them some time ago "
"Sorry can't read chinese. Returned it all to my "Lao Shi" ages ago! hahahah
For me, I think the source of my happiness is my wife. When she tells me to buy 4D, i'll buy. And tell me not to bet big. (Max: $2 big, $2 Small) I'll usually strike. And then she'll tell me not to spend it all, but also donate it (usually 30%) to a charity or temple.
Before I met her, my life was going nowhere. My ex cheated on me, and was pregnant with her lover's child. 2 months before we got married. My life went on a downhill spiral after that. I became an alcoholic, lost my job, owed banks tons of $$. Had absolutely no luck in whatever i did. Buy 4D, number 0002, can open 1st prize 2000. Wah piang eh.
Oh yeah, my ex was hairy. Hairy until sometimes, i can't find the entrance!!! I don't know if that's of any relation to this.
Anyways, for me, i think finding a "white Tiger" is like finding gold at the end of the rainbow. Think of all the $$ we save cos she doesn't have to go for brazillian waxing. hahah
To each his own I guess. But yeah, like what most bros here already said, it's old wife's tales. It's up to you to believe it. For me i think it's just beyond my wife's naturally hairless issue. But overall as a person."
"I think the Chinese started the White Tigers cause bad luck myth. To the ang mos, they like clean shaven pussies. There is no basis for this belief. "
"haha. agree with you brother, i dun believe in these grandma's tales. anyone find completely bald pls msg me if you dun want her"
"Me too. Second that.
cheers "
"i say they r NOT as supertitious doesn't mean i say they r not supertitious...they dun believe in our shit yes..but sadly to say most of us believe in theirs~~like the friday the 13th?? who r more supertious?? what i trying to say here is not to believe such old folk tales lah,and face life with the right attitute lah...be expressive like the angmo but not other thing lidat...etc Personally i dun like angmo coz they think the whole world belong to em especially americans, but i do accept the way they treated clean shaven pussy"
"Well, I would like to have a gal with hairless pussy regardless of natural or shaven."
"Bro, if you believe that hairless bring you luck then it will be. Do what ever you feel comfortable.
As of what you have asked have you heard off bonking hairless pussy is unlucky? Yes, I have heard of this but it was the olden days supersitious saying. "
"Hi Bro,
I used to have this supertitious thinking I think 15 to 20 years back. At that time, used to cheong HC & this old folks tales was pass down by my cousin. They are now in their late forties. We used to call those ladies without pubic hair "Peh Hor" aka White Tiger. Of course if we call a WL & is a "Peh Hor" & if don't screw her sure waste money. So what we do is used our own shoe or sandals to beat their backside 3 times before proceed to action. This ritual will null & void the curse...LOL
I think nowadays people seldom mind this partly due to many influences from the west as well as the Jap AV where you see so many shave pussy & people have come to accept it.
Cheers"
"Well not sure if this 'superstitious' thing carry on till today cos' not many WLs are clean-shaven (based on my encounters anyway). So far only know 2 that shave their V. For such 'rarity' the sight of a 'naked' cunt is quite a turn on."
"bros
any new recommendations for FL or WL in HC with clean shaven pussy.
loves to lick a clean chaven pussy.
thanks in advance. "
"bro if got let me know too. me also like clean shaven pussy"
"I like clean shaven pussy too ... but have been trying to get my latest GF to go for Brazilian Wax ... to no avail ..
I think it is cleaner as dirt etc can get trapped in the pubic hair easily ,."
"Bro, you can try to "persuade" her slowly by feeding her slowly info on all the goodness of being clean shaven.... it is more hygienic definitely and from the medical prospective is better for the girl too. In addition to greater pleasure the feeling of being free and unhibited and TOTALLy naked..... these days it is so common that is why there are so many shops offering brazilian wax these days. If not sign her up for some spa or nail spa thing and get the sales or consultant there to further persuade her on all the goodness.... persist and you will be rewarded "
"I think many people have misunderstood, the term "Peh Hor". Actually, this term refers ladies who are naturally hairless/no hair pussy. However, clean shaven pussy is another issue which cannot be considered as "Peh Hor".
So, as years past, people unknowingly describe "Peh Hor" when they see no hair pussy (be it shaven or naturally hairless)."
"You mean got naturally no hair one for chabor, then guys also have naturally no hair ....
Anyway, I will be persuading my GF to do brazilian wax liao"
"i believe it boils down to each person's personality. for me, i feel its quite a turn on since its rather rare. "
"ok so....after discussing so much about this.....does anyone know of any currently working FL or WL who has a naturally hairless pussy? i wanna try....but don't give me old, or plump, or face CMI type hor....i cannot get an erection.....hahaha.... "
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Okey,
So and now imagine to go to make christian higer spiritual mission to talk about Her higer self needs and how even thinking what is not needing huring the world really.
Well, but gotta do that as well, there is plan for everything.
"please don't flame me for this.
but my wife has a natural hairless pussy. There's absolutely no hair surrounding the pussy except for a small tuff (about the size of a 50 cent coin) at the front, then it's smooth all the way at the sides.
I don't find it bad luck at all. in fact i think it's good luck. Cos before I met her, i was in a state of self destruction. My job, my family was almost in shambles.
Then I met her, and that changed my life around completely. We got married 2 years ago, and life is good!
I guess it's up to you to believe. but for me, i think it's goes beyond the "white tiger bit" it's about your compatability with your partner."
"everytime i think of your thread i start to laugh ......i also didnt like bald pussy...but then since there liao...i will still bonk....
wont bad luck la....or else ppl gamble i think they will still go GL bonk 1....like what bro offspring said"
"bro, i know many would think tat i was damn stupid not to bonk the gal spreading n ready in front of me, but well tat happened few yrs back when i was youngster, dumb n inexperience ... kekekekk
now tat many bros here hv given their opinions n shared their view, i dun think i will think again when i encounter such pussy again, juz bonk bonk bonk n bonk ... hehehe ... like wat many of the bros here said juz enjoy while we still can ...
yo bro to b honest, i like bald pussy lei, oledi like it in the past but din dare to bonk coz of tis stupid taboo (bonk only those shaven, not naturally hairless), but now changed liao thanks to the bros here for sharing their opinions n views ... past present n future will still like bald pussy, but tis time will need to change style, b it naturally hairless or shaven ... still need to bonk !!! ... ... shaven, clean, smooth ... damn sexy!! hehehe ... "
"Hairless bald pussies - bad luck?!? Old wives tales lah! If we are to believe every bloody superstition we Asians have to be true, the World will only be populated by Chinese, and all ang moh's and other races will be extinct! - Think about it!"
"hairless pussy is damn hard to find leh, if i found one i think im damn lucky!!!! Please let me know if any brother knows any girl with hairless bald natural pussy ok. thanks a million "
"I will take a bald one over a hairy one any day.
Tried a bushy pussy recently....WAH LAU........so bushy until got difficulty finding the entrance.This is a major turnoff for me."
"To b honest, same. I hv nvr seen a naturally hairless one. Probably I newbie, & nvr bonk enough compared to bros here."
"wa your list so long still not enough ar....
feel like asking you abt some of those that you tried hehe was eyeing them some time ago "
"Sorry can't read chinese. Returned it all to my "Lao Shi" ages ago! hahahah
For me, I think the source of my happiness is my wife. When she tells me to buy 4D, i'll buy. And tell me not to bet big. (Max: $2 big, $2 Small) I'll usually strike. And then she'll tell me not to spend it all, but also donate it (usually 30%) to a charity or temple.
Before I met her, my life was going nowhere. My ex cheated on me, and was pregnant with her lover's child. 2 months before we got married. My life went on a downhill spiral after that. I became an alcoholic, lost my job, owed banks tons of $$. Had absolutely no luck in whatever i did. Buy 4D, number 0002, can open 1st prize 2000. Wah piang eh.
Oh yeah, my ex was hairy. Hairy until sometimes, i can't find the entrance!!! I don't know if that's of any relation to this.
Anyways, for me, i think finding a "white Tiger" is like finding gold at the end of the rainbow. Think of all the $$ we save cos she doesn't have to go for brazillian waxing. hahah
To each his own I guess. But yeah, like what most bros here already said, it's old wife's tales. It's up to you to believe it. For me i think it's just beyond my wife's naturally hairless issue. But overall as a person."
"I think the Chinese started the White Tigers cause bad luck myth. To the ang mos, they like clean shaven pussies. There is no basis for this belief. "
"haha. agree with you brother, i dun believe in these grandma's tales. anyone find completely bald pls msg me if you dun want her"
"Me too. Second that.
cheers "
"i say they r NOT as supertitious doesn't mean i say they r not supertitious...they dun believe in our shit yes..but sadly to say most of us believe in theirs~~like the friday the 13th?? who r more supertious?? what i trying to say here is not to believe such old folk tales lah,and face life with the right attitute lah...be expressive like the angmo but not other thing lidat...etc Personally i dun like angmo coz they think the whole world belong to em especially americans, but i do accept the way they treated clean shaven pussy"
"Well, I would like to have a gal with hairless pussy regardless of natural or shaven."
"Bro, if you believe that hairless bring you luck then it will be. Do what ever you feel comfortable.
As of what you have asked have you heard off bonking hairless pussy is unlucky? Yes, I have heard of this but it was the olden days supersitious saying. "
"Hi Bro,
I used to have this supertitious thinking I think 15 to 20 years back. At that time, used to cheong HC & this old folks tales was pass down by my cousin. They are now in their late forties. We used to call those ladies without pubic hair "Peh Hor" aka White Tiger. Of course if we call a WL & is a "Peh Hor" & if don't screw her sure waste money. So what we do is used our own shoe or sandals to beat their backside 3 times before proceed to action. This ritual will null & void the curse...LOL
I think nowadays people seldom mind this partly due to many influences from the west as well as the Jap AV where you see so many shave pussy & people have come to accept it.
Cheers"
"Well not sure if this 'superstitious' thing carry on till today cos' not many WLs are clean-shaven (based on my encounters anyway). So far only know 2 that shave their V. For such 'rarity' the sight of a 'naked' cunt is quite a turn on."
"bros
any new recommendations for FL or WL in HC with clean shaven pussy.
loves to lick a clean chaven pussy.
thanks in advance. "
"bro if got let me know too. me also like clean shaven pussy"
"I like clean shaven pussy too ... but have been trying to get my latest GF to go for Brazilian Wax ... to no avail ..
I think it is cleaner as dirt etc can get trapped in the pubic hair easily ,."
"Bro, you can try to "persuade" her slowly by feeding her slowly info on all the goodness of being clean shaven.... it is more hygienic definitely and from the medical prospective is better for the girl too. In addition to greater pleasure the feeling of being free and unhibited and TOTALLy naked..... these days it is so common that is why there are so many shops offering brazilian wax these days. If not sign her up for some spa or nail spa thing and get the sales or consultant there to further persuade her on all the goodness.... persist and you will be rewarded "
"I think many people have misunderstood, the term "Peh Hor". Actually, this term refers ladies who are naturally hairless/no hair pussy. However, clean shaven pussy is another issue which cannot be considered as "Peh Hor".
So, as years past, people unknowingly describe "Peh Hor" when they see no hair pussy (be it shaven or naturally hairless)."
"You mean got naturally no hair one for chabor, then guys also have naturally no hair ....
Anyway, I will be persuading my GF to do brazilian wax liao"
"i believe it boils down to each person's personality. for me, i feel its quite a turn on since its rather rare. "
"ok so....after discussing so much about this.....does anyone know of any currently working FL or WL who has a naturally hairless pussy? i wanna try....but don't give me old, or plump, or face CMI type hor....i cannot get an erection.....hahaha.... "
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Okey,
So and now imagine to go to make christian higer spiritual mission to talk about Her higer self needs and how even thinking what is not needing huring the world really.
Well, but gotta do that as well, there is plan for everything.
16 August 2014 20:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
more comments (just gotta love this new age pagan real talk)
"The difference between angmo n us chinese( asian) is that they r NOT as supertitious as us and they r more expressive than us..they fuck any pussy that comes their way n enjoy it..,they relief their stress n express their emotion n etc...thats the reason they r more appealing to gals even in our sociaty.. where else some asian(chinese) believe in the 'white tiger' bring bad luck thingy...and some other old idiot tales ,and most of the time we blame other things for bringing bad luck n never reflect on why n the reason of failure/ or so call suay...fact is --we just release or resort our stress n setback in life to such no logic thing then express it....blame here blame there( even blame a pussy! ) but never blame ownself... For these stupid reasons,to miss a chance to savour a piece of smooth nice cunt is the most unbelievable and unaceptable thing to me ..,so any1 who is supertitous enuff to give up these chances,dun mind inform me and i;m most willing to help to proof n be the white mouse to test the hairless pussy,thankew! Btw, i screw a few hairless pussy before i left school due to misconduct n started to enter the realistic world but from then on i never have to work n been very gd luck in gambling n investment etc...20years liao never work dun have to worry much about money( not doing any crime)...any1 consider this bad luck?? In my humble opinion,no pussy to screw is then really bad luck when u r born wif a dick to do so...then avoid screwing bcos of some stupid believes!! "
""Hi bro miserysm, I was thinking of putting up a FM on this WHITE TIGER but you beat me to it.
In my younger days I met two of this white tigers and seem it is ok to me, in fact it is really a very special feeling bonking them and you can see the expression on their face that show that they are enjoying it, or maybe of their young age. The smooth feeling make me thinking of finding one now, any bro recommend.
In those yes it say that it is bad luck for many years but I don't believe and it did not occur to me.
One thing to me is Friday the 13th. which met with a car accident."
"My wife just went for Brazilian waxing, now her CB look 15 years younger, I really love it.
Those who continue to believe in old folks tales are missing alots of things in life, you only live once so bring your gals / wives to try it. For sure you guys will love it too.
I used to be faithful, no hankypanky but my life still screwed up, now that i started to screw around, life actually got better & better....and i'm fucking happy now....
It all up to you to believe or not, having a pinky/creamy pussy in front of you & not screwing it...is the biggest joke i have even heard!"
"Sorry forgot to add another real life case:
Got a friend who is in the financial/banking line, told me he and his wife never do oral sex, because he feel it will bring him BAD LUCK in his business.
He is rich but do you guys think he is missing something? Imagine the wife never got licked, i think his wife is really having "BAD LUCK" to have such husband.
Or maybe the rich wife can afford someone to have her pussy painted.....behind his back."
"1. Step on feet cannot hit 1st prize
2. CNY 1st day cannot sweep floor if not suay
3. Never eat rice finish on plate, future wife will have alot of pimples
4. Sit on hot bus seat will let u get piles
5. Cannot cut fingernail at night
6. If betting football, horse or gambling etc, cannot go GL and bonk.
if u believe all these crap, one will never be rich or comfortable with living. Perpetually broke.
Nah, old wifes tales. Some of these taboo, i purposely go and try. See? Im still fine and ok"
"bro, i agree with u ... although i've nvr heard some of the taboos tat u mentioned here, now then i realized, sumtimes i cut fingernails at nite n alwiz bet football n go GL to bonk (sumtimes win sumtimes lose), but the fact is tat i'm still okay now ... perfectly fine ... alive n kicking ...
such old wives tales / taboo / superstitious / physicological or watever shits shld b ignored ... maybe we shld juz live our lives n enjoy it ..."
"wah i say u boh hui me
until senior say the same thing then you listen"
"pai seh lah bro, not tat i boh hui u, its juz tat i cant quote everything tat everybody said here rite, so i juz quote some ... for those who dun agree abt this taboo r rite, i wont b such a stupid guy again to believe it ...
happy cny bro"
"bro u forgot one more
cannot cut pubic hair if not will have bad luck"
"That one I know is not true! I trim my pubic hair because it was either that or no more deep throat from my girl. Since then have always kept it neat especially after one accident when the hair got caught in the zipper!"
"Errr...I don't think it's true. Let's not talk about FLs who probably do it for 'professional' purpose, just talk about the girls in the swimming pools or beaches. Most of them need to shave off the pubic hair at the side so as not to be 'revealed' when wearing the swimwears or bikinis. Else, it looks damn untidying. "
"Yeah i have known tat hairless pussy is bad luck, If I meet anyone liek this I would not bonk....As I have gone through thsi b4 whena friend told me tat he screwed a hairless cunt b4 ended he become bad luck and ended up in jail with othet cases he had done.
Most of the case guy tat touch a hairless cunt will go unlucky, not shave but naturally hairless as what the old people say or classified as " WHite Tiger " thats what they classified.....olden saying classified as bad luck...so be careful when u meet one Brosssss get off as soon as possible u never knwo what u gonna get anyway just be safe as the wise saying goesssss"
"Hi all, been reading thru the whole post, I was surprised tat till this day, we r still so superstitious. Have to second Bro Forumer and MonsterX. Just wanna share, our life ups n downs are all predestined. But we can change if we want. Doesn't mean u bonk a hairless pussy u suay. It just so happen that this is your lowest part of your life, and u have all the bad things coming at u. For eg, anyone been to LOyang Tua Pek Kong to pray for 4D? And how many of u kena 1st prize? Let's say 1 day, 10000 ppl ask for numbers. If 1 or 2 kena, they will come back and repay. Wat abt those that did not? Personally, I saw 1 uncle of mine, he go which temple ask number sure strike, in in malaysia too. This is his gd luck, but remember, this will end.
IMHO, wat ever comes, just bonk lor. Why waste the oyster? Happy Bonking bro."
"bros,
My view is that if you have an opportunity to have nice cunt to fuck, whether white tiger or not, you alreadi have the luck, that is numer 1; next if you are still able and strong to fuck, that is your luck no 2; and that cunt is waiting for you to fuck, that is your luck no 3!
Just think about it, you are really in a very luck position /situation already, all things being equal!
Have a great New Year of the Pig, and enjoy every minute of fucking if you have the chance, cheers!"
"The difference between angmo n us chinese( asian) is that they r NOT as supertitious as us and they r more expressive than us..they fuck any pussy that comes their way n enjoy it..,they relief their stress n express their emotion n etc...thats the reason they r more appealing to gals even in our sociaty.. where else some asian(chinese) believe in the 'white tiger' bring bad luck thingy...and some other old idiot tales ,and most of the time we blame other things for bringing bad luck n never reflect on why n the reason of failure/ or so call suay...fact is --we just release or resort our stress n setback in life to such no logic thing then express it....blame here blame there( even blame a pussy! ) but never blame ownself... For these stupid reasons,to miss a chance to savour a piece of smooth nice cunt is the most unbelievable and unaceptable thing to me ..,so any1 who is supertitous enuff to give up these chances,dun mind inform me and i;m most willing to help to proof n be the white mouse to test the hairless pussy,thankew! Btw, i screw a few hairless pussy before i left school due to misconduct n started to enter the realistic world but from then on i never have to work n been very gd luck in gambling n investment etc...20years liao never work dun have to worry much about money( not doing any crime)...any1 consider this bad luck?? In my humble opinion,no pussy to screw is then really bad luck when u r born wif a dick to do so...then avoid screwing bcos of some stupid believes!! "
""Hi bro miserysm, I was thinking of putting up a FM on this WHITE TIGER but you beat me to it.
In my younger days I met two of this white tigers and seem it is ok to me, in fact it is really a very special feeling bonking them and you can see the expression on their face that show that they are enjoying it, or maybe of their young age. The smooth feeling make me thinking of finding one now, any bro recommend.
In those yes it say that it is bad luck for many years but I don't believe and it did not occur to me.
One thing to me is Friday the 13th. which met with a car accident."
"My wife just went for Brazilian waxing, now her CB look 15 years younger, I really love it.
Those who continue to believe in old folks tales are missing alots of things in life, you only live once so bring your gals / wives to try it. For sure you guys will love it too.
I used to be faithful, no hankypanky but my life still screwed up, now that i started to screw around, life actually got better & better....and i'm fucking happy now....
It all up to you to believe or not, having a pinky/creamy pussy in front of you & not screwing it...is the biggest joke i have even heard!"
"Sorry forgot to add another real life case:
Got a friend who is in the financial/banking line, told me he and his wife never do oral sex, because he feel it will bring him BAD LUCK in his business.
He is rich but do you guys think he is missing something? Imagine the wife never got licked, i think his wife is really having "BAD LUCK" to have such husband.
Or maybe the rich wife can afford someone to have her pussy painted.....behind his back."
"1. Step on feet cannot hit 1st prize
2. CNY 1st day cannot sweep floor if not suay
3. Never eat rice finish on plate, future wife will have alot of pimples
4. Sit on hot bus seat will let u get piles
5. Cannot cut fingernail at night
6. If betting football, horse or gambling etc, cannot go GL and bonk.
if u believe all these crap, one will never be rich or comfortable with living. Perpetually broke.
Nah, old wifes tales. Some of these taboo, i purposely go and try. See? Im still fine and ok"
"bro, i agree with u ... although i've nvr heard some of the taboos tat u mentioned here, now then i realized, sumtimes i cut fingernails at nite n alwiz bet football n go GL to bonk (sumtimes win sumtimes lose), but the fact is tat i'm still okay now ... perfectly fine ... alive n kicking ...
such old wives tales / taboo / superstitious / physicological or watever shits shld b ignored ... maybe we shld juz live our lives n enjoy it ..."
"wah i say u boh hui me
until senior say the same thing then you listen"
"pai seh lah bro, not tat i boh hui u, its juz tat i cant quote everything tat everybody said here rite, so i juz quote some ... for those who dun agree abt this taboo r rite, i wont b such a stupid guy again to believe it ...
happy cny bro"
"bro u forgot one more
cannot cut pubic hair if not will have bad luck"
"That one I know is not true! I trim my pubic hair because it was either that or no more deep throat from my girl. Since then have always kept it neat especially after one accident when the hair got caught in the zipper!"
"Errr...I don't think it's true. Let's not talk about FLs who probably do it for 'professional' purpose, just talk about the girls in the swimming pools or beaches. Most of them need to shave off the pubic hair at the side so as not to be 'revealed' when wearing the swimwears or bikinis. Else, it looks damn untidying. "
"Yeah i have known tat hairless pussy is bad luck, If I meet anyone liek this I would not bonk....As I have gone through thsi b4 whena friend told me tat he screwed a hairless cunt b4 ended he become bad luck and ended up in jail with othet cases he had done.
Most of the case guy tat touch a hairless cunt will go unlucky, not shave but naturally hairless as what the old people say or classified as " WHite Tiger " thats what they classified.....olden saying classified as bad luck...so be careful when u meet one Brosssss get off as soon as possible u never knwo what u gonna get anyway just be safe as the wise saying goesssss"
"Hi all, been reading thru the whole post, I was surprised tat till this day, we r still so superstitious. Have to second Bro Forumer and MonsterX. Just wanna share, our life ups n downs are all predestined. But we can change if we want. Doesn't mean u bonk a hairless pussy u suay. It just so happen that this is your lowest part of your life, and u have all the bad things coming at u. For eg, anyone been to LOyang Tua Pek Kong to pray for 4D? And how many of u kena 1st prize? Let's say 1 day, 10000 ppl ask for numbers. If 1 or 2 kena, they will come back and repay. Wat abt those that did not? Personally, I saw 1 uncle of mine, he go which temple ask number sure strike, in in malaysia too. This is his gd luck, but remember, this will end.
IMHO, wat ever comes, just bonk lor. Why waste the oyster? Happy Bonking bro."
"bros,
My view is that if you have an opportunity to have nice cunt to fuck, whether white tiger or not, you alreadi have the luck, that is numer 1; next if you are still able and strong to fuck, that is your luck no 2; and that cunt is waiting for you to fuck, that is your luck no 3!
Just think about it, you are really in a very luck position /situation already, all things being equal!
Have a great New Year of the Pig, and enjoy every minute of fucking if you have the chance, cheers!"
16 August 2014 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Komentaari section:
"Hmmmm........I think you should be worried now. From what I heard, if you have a cunt infront of you and you decided not to fuck, that is a big no no. You will not only have bad luck but also a curse of not having anymore cunt to fuck.
I hope what I heard is wrong..... No hard feelings..."
"heard of... typical old wives tale...
We can't tell you whether its true or not. Its up to you to believe it or not really.
Are you superstitious? You believe that bringing out brooms and scissors during CNY is bad luck? You believe cannot point at the moon this kinda thing? Some people will quote their experience and say they are true; others will quote experience otherwise. Its really up to your own superstitious level. "
"hmmm.... had a hairless one recently, but i won money at casino, toto, etc... so maybe for me its lucky"
(reply to last comment owner)
"hhmm ... maybe i'm juz being superstitious like wat some of the bros said here ...
the person who told me tis thing said tat there has been some cases in which some ppl met wif bad luck after their encounter wif hairless pussy, some of them r his friends!!! ... i believe him coz he's been bonking FL longer than me ... still not sure true or not .."
"Ya, I heard about this before. Better don't fuck gals with hairless cunt. Damn Bad Luck. I tried it once and never strike 4D for 2 years until I go to Thailand to wash myself in a sacred pool of water prepared by a high priest.
I was told that it can bring bad luck if you lick the gal's cunt too. Because of this, I never lick cunt.
Many bros don't believe my superstition. It is up to you."
(reply to last comment owner)
"Damn lame. Some ppl nvr fuck "pai hor" aka white tiger but oso nvr strike 4D in their entire lifetime. Why lik tat?
Some fuck all kind of cunts but still damn so luki, then why??
Hw U knw 2 yrs nvr strike 4D is tis prob? Wealth God told U so, isit?!
Don't quote WHOLE POST unnecessarily "
"Is this the reason why PRC girls never ever shave? Rarely do i come across a PRC chick with shaven pubes"
(reallifer)
"What I heard is that it was a supersition spreaded to prevent men from fucking underage girls. Girls that are underaged most likely have no pubic hair hence the legend was fucking them was unlucky. A way of protecting them."
"the one i met with no pubic hair was at lor19 ... n i know for sure she is not underage, in fact she is ard 28+yo, milf type ... where got underage gals there ...
or maybe like wat some bros said, many prc dun shave bcoz of tis superstition, although every1 actually know tat a shaven pussy n NATURALLY HAIRLESS pussy is totally different ... coz honestly bros, one of the ppl who told me abt tis is frm CHINA!! ... so i think such a belief realy exist in china ... again, i'm not trying to be superstitious here, juz sharing some views n opinions wif bros here ..."
"i licked my gf's cunt too and i stil strike 4D 1st prize. i fucked my gf while she had her period too..... the more u believe the more it comes true. so just do whatever u like and dont think too much."
"well....if u strongly believe n jus KSi..then dun do lor.......
there is no HARD and FAST rule on superstitions...."
"my guess is tat this urban legend comes frm Japan, Cos as of today, i have nvr seen a Jap AV wher the chick is hairless below.
Or mayb jap dudes like their cunts hairy. Or mee sua (black mee sua) wif hum they r eating. jus like maggie wif egg..hahaha
As for PRCs, long time ago i figured that thet r jus too plain lazy to shave or mayb they think nt alot of pple see, so nvm..no nid maintainence..
bonk a hairless cunt or a hairful one. luck wise, i feel is "as long as got cb, can consider lucky liow"
cheers!! "
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"Hmmmm........I think you should be worried now. From what I heard, if you have a cunt infront of you and you decided not to fuck, that is a big no no. You will not only have bad luck but also a curse of not having anymore cunt to fuck.
I hope what I heard is wrong..... No hard feelings..."
"heard of... typical old wives tale...
We can't tell you whether its true or not. Its up to you to believe it or not really.
Are you superstitious? You believe that bringing out brooms and scissors during CNY is bad luck? You believe cannot point at the moon this kinda thing? Some people will quote their experience and say they are true; others will quote experience otherwise. Its really up to your own superstitious level. "
"hmmm.... had a hairless one recently, but i won money at casino, toto, etc... so maybe for me its lucky"
(reply to last comment owner)
"hhmm ... maybe i'm juz being superstitious like wat some of the bros said here ...
the person who told me tis thing said tat there has been some cases in which some ppl met wif bad luck after their encounter wif hairless pussy, some of them r his friends!!! ... i believe him coz he's been bonking FL longer than me ... still not sure true or not .."
"Ya, I heard about this before. Better don't fuck gals with hairless cunt. Damn Bad Luck. I tried it once and never strike 4D for 2 years until I go to Thailand to wash myself in a sacred pool of water prepared by a high priest.
I was told that it can bring bad luck if you lick the gal's cunt too. Because of this, I never lick cunt.
Many bros don't believe my superstition. It is up to you."
(reply to last comment owner)
"Damn lame. Some ppl nvr fuck "pai hor" aka white tiger but oso nvr strike 4D in their entire lifetime. Why lik tat?
Some fuck all kind of cunts but still damn so luki, then why??
Hw U knw 2 yrs nvr strike 4D is tis prob? Wealth God told U so, isit?!
Don't quote WHOLE POST unnecessarily "
"Is this the reason why PRC girls never ever shave? Rarely do i come across a PRC chick with shaven pubes"
(reallifer)
"What I heard is that it was a supersition spreaded to prevent men from fucking underage girls. Girls that are underaged most likely have no pubic hair hence the legend was fucking them was unlucky. A way of protecting them."
"the one i met with no pubic hair was at lor19 ... n i know for sure she is not underage, in fact she is ard 28+yo, milf type ... where got underage gals there ...
or maybe like wat some bros said, many prc dun shave bcoz of tis superstition, although every1 actually know tat a shaven pussy n NATURALLY HAIRLESS pussy is totally different ... coz honestly bros, one of the ppl who told me abt tis is frm CHINA!! ... so i think such a belief realy exist in china ... again, i'm not trying to be superstitious here, juz sharing some views n opinions wif bros here ..."
"i licked my gf's cunt too and i stil strike 4D 1st prize. i fucked my gf while she had her period too..... the more u believe the more it comes true. so just do whatever u like and dont think too much."
"well....if u strongly believe n jus KSi..then dun do lor.......
there is no HARD and FAST rule on superstitions...."
"my guess is tat this urban legend comes frm Japan, Cos as of today, i have nvr seen a Jap AV wher the chick is hairless below.
Or mayb jap dudes like their cunts hairy. Or mee sua (black mee sua) wif hum they r eating. jus like maggie wif egg..hahaha
As for PRCs, long time ago i figured that thet r jus too plain lazy to shave or mayb they think nt alot of pple see, so nvm..no nid maintainence..
bonk a hairless cunt or a hairful one. luck wise, i feel is "as long as got cb, can consider lucky liow"
cheers!! "
https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t1.0-9/10570415_10152551208111321_5944791502275346112_n.jpg
https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t1.0-9/10570415_10152551208111321_5944791502275346112_n.jpg
16 August 2014 20:15
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
weeeeee, nii sa siis oma nädalavahetust veedad, teletubbidega hängides jah :p
16 August 2014 13:17
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Weatherman's post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
3 still : )
More then Jesus, is Jehovah and Women, just saying, No need to clue yourself to the words what he told that was meant as "truth speaking" rather then "only Jesus can get you there" ... this is fatal mistake, that can still take you to right place but that might set you apart from Islam and Jews and THEN you set yourself apart from great wisdoms and nature as well, as clearly telling that Jesus is more then Jehovah or even more then Jesus Mother.. is making disservice to word and to Jesus as well.16 August 2014 13:16
Margus Meigo commented on Egle Liebenau's post.
Group: LOOMASÕBRAD
Kõik oleneb mis moodi hinge läheb ja kuidas missugune hinge minek kasulik on selleks, et jumala ligimeseks hakkaksime jälle.
Mõni video teeb inimesed lausa kaligmaks ja kaugemaks16 August 2014 13:12
Margus Meigo commented on Tony Pezzulo's post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
and also Do what you pray for!16 August 2014 06:17
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Weatherman's post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
who, pretty good people here, 1 to you all as well : )
what is your mathematics Rebecca? direct msg
nr 1 for me always is a women spirit from proverbs 8.20
and if you love women you love all She loves as well : )16 August 2014 06:11
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
yeah, i know, these people who act unconstitutional way should be managed some how... as its clearly provocation
from my side as well
from my side as well
16 August 2014 05:59
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMLJeHHTNXc sääl viimane minut, kus räägib sõnast Aloha .. väga hea, et see keeleliselt, see hawaii tervitus tähendab hästi tundma ja hea tunde jagamine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMLJeHHTNXc
16 August 2014 05:57
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's post.
normaalsema jutuga transhumanistid http://www.seriouswonder.com/humans-need-not-apply-the-age-of-automation/ kuid nagu eks plaan tundub ikka suts sarnane nagu ikka.. portaalil endal, hmm..
http://www.seriouswonder.com/humans-need-not-apply-the-age-of-automation/
16 August 2014 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Weatherman's post.
Group: Jesus Christ is God
316 August 2014 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/3731606825001/ministers-explosive-rant-on-violence-in-ferguson-goes-viral/#sp=show-clips
http://video.foxnews.com/v/3731606825001/ministers-explosive-rant-on-violence-in-ferguson-goes-viral/#sp=show-clips
16 August 2014 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
Listen the black guy in the end of the video
Ups, english.
Basically, its sickening that we are so easily manipulated and starting up riots because one guy no one know was killed by police (who according to report attacked police, even if not does not mater so much).
Fact is there is millions of people killed per year, by some of the institutions who do it bulk every month and there is rarely reactions, but when state wants to test mind manipulation tools and fire up people to anti state mind sett then we look this like state is making mistake and is bad. This is test for internal security, how is reacted on internal threat
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/14/us/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-5-things/index.html
Communists do same in UK; using criminal profiles to fire up people emotions.
Anyone who physically calls out police is a bit retarded in my opinion.
Ups, english.
Basically, its sickening that we are so easily manipulated and starting up riots because one guy no one know was killed by police (who according to report attacked police, even if not does not mater so much).
Fact is there is millions of people killed per year, by some of the institutions who do it bulk every month and there is rarely reactions, but when state wants to test mind manipulation tools and fire up people to anti state mind sett then we look this like state is making mistake and is bad. This is test for internal security, how is reacted on internal threat
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/14/us/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-5-things/index.html
Communists do same in UK; using criminal profiles to fire up people emotions.
Anyone who physically calls out police is a bit retarded in my opinion.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/14/us/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-5-things/index.html
16 August 2014 01:36
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
Jälle mingi kommunistlik pläma ja propakanda, seda inglismaal ka siin proovitud ja üldse see programm kasulike idiootide ja emotsionaalsete munades olevate inimeste peal tundub toimivat.
MÕelda vaid, inimesed aetakse kokku ühe inimese surma pärast kelle tegude kasulikusest maakerale me isegi ei pruugi teada, või kas üldse oli.
Samal ajal kui päevas sureb tuhandeid, aastas millioneid inimesi massiliselt tekitatud ja ravimatta haigustesse ja sõdadesse, teeme me suuri mass rahutusi vägivallaga ühe inimese surma pärast, samas kui autorooli taga juuatäis peaga saab iga kuu sadu surma. Miks General Motorsi ees protesti ei soovi teha või looma farmide ees?
Kuid kui politsei juhtub kedagi maha laskma siis, vot siis on suur karauul lahti.
MÕelda vaid, inimesed aetakse kokku ühe inimese surma pärast kelle tegude kasulikusest maakerale me isegi ei pruugi teada, või kas üldse oli.
Samal ajal kui päevas sureb tuhandeid, aastas millioneid inimesi massiliselt tekitatud ja ravimatta haigustesse ja sõdadesse, teeme me suuri mass rahutusi vägivallaga ühe inimese surma pärast, samas kui autorooli taga juuatäis peaga saab iga kuu sadu surma. Miks General Motorsi ees protesti ei soovi teha või looma farmide ees?
Kuid kui politsei juhtub kedagi maha laskma siis, vot siis on suur karauul lahti.
16 August 2014 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Muidugi kurb mõnes mõttes, et vanamemm sedasi tantsima pandi kuid vahva ka, et ta tantsis : ))
16 August 2014 01:12
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
ma postitasin enda oma seinale ja twitterisse, et oleks lihtne leida : )
16 August 2014 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's post.
Viisnurga Nõukogude liidul oli sama sloogan juba mitukümend aastat tagasi "loodus jõudude allutamine inimesele" mis suht haiglane.. arvestades, et me tänamatult sööme, seksime ja hingame seda loodust, et selle vastu võitlema hakata... ja naist allutama...
Need lähevad ümber genereerimise listi kohe kiirelt
Need lähevad ümber genereerimise listi kohe kiirelt
15 August 2014 15:08
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's post.
Selle habemikuga sellelt lehelt tahaks rääkida tõsiselt, urr!
Haige communistlik inimhävituslik propa, ning mis selle taga on, on midagi nii tumedat mida nad plaanivad teha inimkonnaga, et ei julge isegi vizualiseerida
Noppeid:
"Nature is not your friend... (but Transhumanism is)" they say...
" It seems to me that if God exists, he would want us to show some tenacity and use our brains to become as much like a God as possible, including achieving physical immortality if it can be done. In fact, complacently accepting your death seems rather unappreciative of the gift of life, which religious people think God has gifted them with. "
"Robots are a perfect symbolism for the perfection that we aspire for. One day we could become robots ourselves--more indestructible, more God-like than we had ever dreamed possible. Like a God, we could wield power over nature and conform it to our own desires. "
Esiteks, kogu piibli point on läbi looduse saada ennast sinna maani kus sa SAAD igavesse ellu ja looduse tööriistadega nagu maagilised seened ja muud taimed me oleme näinud ka kuidas ennast muutes meil see võimalus olemas millest piibel räägib,
Kuid kui me jätkame looduse vastast sõda, nagu need looduse vastased liigid kes elu üle võtavad planeet planeedi järel neid robotiteks tehes, et hingesi koguda ja mida iganes... arrgh
https://fbcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1044160_337151999749243_558462131_a.jpg
Haige communistlik inimhävituslik propa, ning mis selle taga on, on midagi nii tumedat mida nad plaanivad teha inimkonnaga, et ei julge isegi vizualiseerida
Noppeid:
"Nature is not your friend... (but Transhumanism is)" they say...
" It seems to me that if God exists, he would want us to show some tenacity and use our brains to become as much like a God as possible, including achieving physical immortality if it can be done. In fact, complacently accepting your death seems rather unappreciative of the gift of life, which religious people think God has gifted them with. "
"Robots are a perfect symbolism for the perfection that we aspire for. One day we could become robots ourselves--more indestructible, more God-like than we had ever dreamed possible. Like a God, we could wield power over nature and conform it to our own desires. "
Esiteks, kogu piibli point on läbi looduse saada ennast sinna maani kus sa SAAD igavesse ellu ja looduse tööriistadega nagu maagilised seened ja muud taimed me oleme näinud ka kuidas ennast muutes meil see võimalus olemas millest piibel räägib,
Kuid kui me jätkame looduse vastast sõda, nagu need looduse vastased liigid kes elu üle võtavad planeet planeedi järel neid robotiteks tehes, et hingesi koguda ja mida iganes... arrgh
https://fbcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1044160_337151999749243_558462131_a.jpg
https://fbcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1044160_337151999749243_558462131_a.jpg
15 August 2014 15:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Robbie looks little like to the rapist abusive side i hope he keeps these forces off from the body of what he has.
Just just the trait he has, that has the potential if situations are present.
For good he is getting in contact with aliens, positive ones hopefully.
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Song spiritual meanings also a bit dark, or what ?
(but with good intentions)
Just just the trait he has, that has the potential if situations are present.
For good he is getting in contact with aliens, positive ones hopefully.
-
Song spiritual meanings also a bit dark, or what ?
(but with good intentions)
15 August 2014 08:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kiss us hard before you go : )
Actually like the look of video but just needs to be way more slower..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVjsGKrE6E8
Actually like the look of video but just needs to be way more slower..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVjsGKrE6E8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVjsGKrE6E8
15 August 2014 07:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Muidu see soudtrack ka päris hea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BigolJfoANw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixdp35Zpy7s Long Mix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aXo5Kwp37I Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BigolJfoANw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixdp35Zpy7s Long Mix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aXo5Kwp37I Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BigolJfoANw
15 August 2014 07:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
yea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsvpvqvApKo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsvpvqvApKo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsvpvqvApKo
15 August 2014 07:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
enne seda see mu lemmik https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUezhpuEoE .. ikka vist on kuid nagu yea, varsti saab albumi kokku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUezhpuEoE
15 August 2014 07:28
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Nujah, viisnurga productid ju
15 August 2014 07:26
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
if you would know you would not be controlled, innit
15 August 2014 07:25
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Liiga hea põdral maja metsasees...::D
Jooki ka oled pannud v?
Jaa kuidas siis muidu, weedi ka tegin peale Dx
Pohui, oligi naabri auto :D
Neil need Ugandameestel asjad ikka paremaks lähevad vaikselt naqu
Jooki ka oled pannud v?
Jaa kuidas siis muidu, weedi ka tegin peale Dx
Pohui, oligi naabri auto :D
Neil need Ugandameestel asjad ikka paremaks lähevad vaikselt naqu
15 August 2014 07:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
TO Kaz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5anLPw0Efmo
Äitah...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5anLPw0Efmo
Äitah...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5anLPw0Efmo
15 August 2014 06:58
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
at least he makes people smile : ))
15 August 2014 06:06
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's post.
Päiksekiir Lahe
" Planarian flatworms (both sexual and asexual) appear to exhibit an ability to live indefinitely and have an "apparently limitless [telomere] regenerative capacity fueled by a population of highly proliferative adult stem cells"
lobsters
Research suggests that lobsters may not slow down, weaken, or lose fertility with age, and that older lobsters may be more fertile than younger lobsters. This longevity may be due to telomerase, an enzyme that repairs long repetitive sections of DNA sequences at the ends of chromosomes, referred to as telomeres. Telomerase is expressed by most vertebrates during embryonic stages but is generally absent from adult stages of life. However, unlike vertebrates, lobsters express telomerase as adults through most tissue, which has been suggested to be related to their longevity
Jellyfish
Turritopsis dohrnii, or Turritopsis nutricula, is a small (5 millimeters (0.20 in)) species of jellyfish that uses transdifferentiation to replenish cells after sexual reproduction. This cycle can repeat indefinitely, potentially rendering it biologically immortal. This organism originated in the Caribbean sea, but has now spread around the world.
Hydras are a genus of simple, freshwater animals possessing radial symmetry and no post-mitotic cells. The fact that all cells continually divide allows defects and toxins to be diluted. It has been suggested that hydras do not undergo senescence, and, as such, are biologically immortal. However, this does not explain how hydras are consequently able to maintain telomere lengths.
Tardigrades, also known as "water bears", are highly resilient microscopic animals. They are capable of surviving extremes such as heat, radiation, and drought by going into suspended animation, where their metabolism slows to near zero and they simply wait out the harsh conditions until the environment is more favorable.
Bacteria are said to be biologically immortal, but only at the level of the colony. The two daughter bacteria resulting from cell division of a parent bacterium can be regarded as unique individuals or as members of a biologically "immortal" colony. The two daughter cells can be regarded as "rejuvenated" copies of the parent cell because damaged macromolecules have been split between the two cells and diluted. In the same way stem cells and gametes can be regarded as "immortal".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_immortality
Among the principle drivers of international collaboration in such research is the SENS Research Foundation, a non-profit organization that advocates a number of what it claims are plausible research pathways that might lead to engineered negligible senescence in humans.
for the feasibility of the cryopreservation of humans, known as cryonics. Cryonics is predicated on the concept that some people considered clinically dead by today's medicolegal standards are not actually dead according to information-theoretic death and can, in principle, be resuscitated given sufficient technological advances
Ma juba mõtlesin, et see mingi Cylonite organisatsioon on millest räägivad : )
" Planarian flatworms (both sexual and asexual) appear to exhibit an ability to live indefinitely and have an "apparently limitless [telomere] regenerative capacity fueled by a population of highly proliferative adult stem cells"
lobsters
Research suggests that lobsters may not slow down, weaken, or lose fertility with age, and that older lobsters may be more fertile than younger lobsters. This longevity may be due to telomerase, an enzyme that repairs long repetitive sections of DNA sequences at the ends of chromosomes, referred to as telomeres. Telomerase is expressed by most vertebrates during embryonic stages but is generally absent from adult stages of life. However, unlike vertebrates, lobsters express telomerase as adults through most tissue, which has been suggested to be related to their longevity
Jellyfish
Turritopsis dohrnii, or Turritopsis nutricula, is a small (5 millimeters (0.20 in)) species of jellyfish that uses transdifferentiation to replenish cells after sexual reproduction. This cycle can repeat indefinitely, potentially rendering it biologically immortal. This organism originated in the Caribbean sea, but has now spread around the world.
Hydras are a genus of simple, freshwater animals possessing radial symmetry and no post-mitotic cells. The fact that all cells continually divide allows defects and toxins to be diluted. It has been suggested that hydras do not undergo senescence, and, as such, are biologically immortal. However, this does not explain how hydras are consequently able to maintain telomere lengths.
Tardigrades, also known as "water bears", are highly resilient microscopic animals. They are capable of surviving extremes such as heat, radiation, and drought by going into suspended animation, where their metabolism slows to near zero and they simply wait out the harsh conditions until the environment is more favorable.
Bacteria are said to be biologically immortal, but only at the level of the colony. The two daughter bacteria resulting from cell division of a parent bacterium can be regarded as unique individuals or as members of a biologically "immortal" colony. The two daughter cells can be regarded as "rejuvenated" copies of the parent cell because damaged macromolecules have been split between the two cells and diluted. In the same way stem cells and gametes can be regarded as "immortal".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_immortality
Among the principle drivers of international collaboration in such research is the SENS Research Foundation, a non-profit organization that advocates a number of what it claims are plausible research pathways that might lead to engineered negligible senescence in humans.
for the feasibility of the cryopreservation of humans, known as cryonics. Cryonics is predicated on the concept that some people considered clinically dead by today's medicolegal standards are not actually dead according to information-theoretic death and can, in principle, be resuscitated given sufficient technological advances
Ma juba mõtlesin, et see mingi Cylonite organisatsioon on millest räägivad : )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_immortality
15 August 2014 05:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
We should dig deeper what tribes why was using the tobacco how and what use it has for us,
out of many things that is documented we have failed to really see the deeper meanings and even reasons would they have done something not good for reasons that was needed, consciously
Like prostitution is also well documented but to get to the bottom of the deep meaning of female sacrifice of her body and spirit, in spiritual plane, for the world, is rarely understood in 20th century literature as its spiritual matter and These high spirits really have not been in to dominating main stream media western writings scene up to now.
out of many things that is documented we have failed to really see the deeper meanings and even reasons would they have done something not good for reasons that was needed, consciously
Like prostitution is also well documented but to get to the bottom of the deep meaning of female sacrifice of her body and spirit, in spiritual plane, for the world, is rarely understood in 20th century literature as its spiritual matter and These high spirits really have not been in to dominating main stream media western writings scene up to now.
15 August 2014 05:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
For an end note,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_MDuDpjoIs&feature=share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_MDuDpjoIs&feature=share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_MDuDpjoIs&feature=share
15 August 2014 03:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
And this is i think best of all these in comments from pits i picked up
Actually recommended, .. the red side of woman ..rituals in modern world.. and where they go.. to keep beast safe..
few female soul story, kind of as well.. pain in the end right ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53OFdowZHwc
Actually recommended, .. the red side of woman ..rituals in modern world.. and where they go.. to keep beast safe..
few female soul story, kind of as well.. pain in the end right ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53OFdowZHwc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53OFdowZHwc
15 August 2014 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Here is few fiilms you might not need to sing in But are still leading you to some nice tracks, these have more soul in also seems.
Will un ravel the plot for this angel later on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtTu0VeeiaQ
Will un ravel the plot for this angel later on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtTu0VeeiaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtTu0VeeiaQ
15 August 2014 02:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
and this religious tone film has some nice related material,.
If we may call it nice and religious...
Big Bad Mama 1974 ...have not seen it full but looks better then sounds and seems more modern then looks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzYneRKxpA4
If we may call it nice and religious...
Big Bad Mama 1974 ...have not seen it full but looks better then sounds and seems more modern then looks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzYneRKxpA4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzYneRKxpA4
15 August 2014 02:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
If you interested just the erotic part then sing in and take look at these related videos in ... i bet many of us did not know this to be up in You Tube that busts us with copyright soundtracks and filters.. (you can skip to 1h29m to know what i mean, just kind of kreepy that this old man keeps coming to the picture,,) is that women just.. there?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJmhOWvpaQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJmhOWvpaQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJmhOWvpaQs
15 August 2014 02:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I would also add
Daughter of Darkness - 滅門慘案之孽殺 (1993) (you can skip to the minute 50 and to 1.20 to see culmination and spirit posession )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_pLckVCU7c
Dangerous Seductress (from minute 15 you can see normal world around you from people in suits..BUt wait.. from 1h:07 you can really see.. 1h:15.. you can see why we need vamps also and 10 minutes after that why Shaman wizards and in the end why not)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk0rbD5cuy0&index=60&list=PLRF3gRCZHt3fj4ljg2DOcHP_Go_oRNWYr
The last words of gay bit (25m and 1h27):
The Everlasting Secret Family 1988
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBNaliFJ3ZE ...what is difference between stars in the eyes and stars in sky? And what stars are on the flag..
Also
KZ9, camp d'extermination-Women's Camp 119 (1977) Bruno Mattei (i think its about nazy like camps sexual energy project with female energys, and ritual sacrifises)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja6gJ6vDArc
the explosive end would be good enought but will add something even more graphicaly appealing for sick mind as well
BEAUTIFUL GIRL HUNTER (1979) (the end from 1:37 with colors, images and music, nicer version of same end for the man of wrong road)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGJLLZfeMck
And to end note (thats about third endnote:D), just to say that good to see, that cannibal tribe is way more, WAY more good with women even if they plan to eat them (1h20) also showing currage and wisdom of femine. Emmanuelle erotic series are actally pretty alright to think about like Space 5...
Emmanuelle and the Last Cannibals (1977)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_d0pEcsljQ
You might also need to turn off adult and safe filer in google
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/turn-off-age-restriction-youtube-67470.html
Daughter of Darkness - 滅門慘案之孽殺 (1993) (you can skip to the minute 50 and to 1.20 to see culmination and spirit posession )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_pLckVCU7c
Dangerous Seductress (from minute 15 you can see normal world around you from people in suits..BUt wait.. from 1h:07 you can really see.. 1h:15.. you can see why we need vamps also and 10 minutes after that why Shaman wizards and in the end why not)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk0rbD5cuy0&index=60&list=PLRF3gRCZHt3fj4ljg2DOcHP_Go_oRNWYr
The last words of gay bit (25m and 1h27):
The Everlasting Secret Family 1988
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBNaliFJ3ZE ...what is difference between stars in the eyes and stars in sky? And what stars are on the flag..
Also
KZ9, camp d'extermination-Women's Camp 119 (1977) Bruno Mattei (i think its about nazy like camps sexual energy project with female energys, and ritual sacrifises)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja6gJ6vDArc
the explosive end would be good enought but will add something even more graphicaly appealing for sick mind as well
BEAUTIFUL GIRL HUNTER (1979) (the end from 1:37 with colors, images and music, nicer version of same end for the man of wrong road)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGJLLZfeMck
And to end note (thats about third endnote:D), just to say that good to see, that cannibal tribe is way more, WAY more good with women even if they plan to eat them (1h20) also showing currage and wisdom of femine. Emmanuelle erotic series are actally pretty alright to think about like Space 5...
Emmanuelle and the Last Cannibals (1977)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_d0pEcsljQ
You might also need to turn off adult and safe filer in google
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/turn-off-age-restriction-youtube-67470.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_pLckVCU7c
15 August 2014 02:20
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's photo.
Illumateina
14 August 2014 05:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
What i like is important warnings like " Combining MAOIs with other psychoactive drugs carries serious medical risks and can result in extremely unpleasant side effects, overheating, nausea, confusion, heart problems, and even" between these talks
But most important.. WHAT did they bring back from travel ... what did spirits teach ... all that is missing, compared to the last report from this guy i posted on comments, who had way less scientific and way more benafitial report.
Also their still usage of coffee that one should not be addicted anymore, usage of alcohol they still accept and "smoking bowl" sounds like still usage of nicotine that all will bring them back in to this same place from where they started from,
and that's 20 years of experiences they say ?
Hmm
Or perhaps there is other part of this report that is still to be read..
But most important.. WHAT did they bring back from travel ... what did spirits teach ... all that is missing, compared to the last report from this guy i posted on comments, who had way less scientific and way more benafitial report.
Also their still usage of coffee that one should not be addicted anymore, usage of alcohol they still accept and "smoking bowl" sounds like still usage of nicotine that all will bring them back in to this same place from where they started from,
and that's 20 years of experiences they say ?
Hmm
Or perhaps there is other part of this report that is still to be read..
13 August 2014 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
EI noh, need kõvad vennad kaitset pole vaja :D
12 August 2014 19:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Wojtek, are you serious ? : )
...actually they spend more then 20billion dollars in OLD, public dollars.. developing anti-nature warfare and biological weapons for nature control.. with more then 15000 scientists and by 90s, 60 years on going continuous programs. From grow inhabitation to psychological and biological changes of human species.
So yeah.. they might have come and discover few things specially if we consider the spirits that help them for the main aim to surrender this final paradise here.
now most of the projects are in public schools as our non religious mind is unable by now to see the terror of the research we are advancing right now, directed by these same (thät)spirits religions talk about.
Why they need us besides our ties to nature and ability to radiate love? Our creativity for starters... and from man, the logic to over come huge problems with fast solutions (logic is unintelligent thinking process as it is not bothered by real facts, situations, circumstances, connected possibilities and most of all its not bothered by billions of variables and forces tat is between desired end point and beginning. So some unthinkable solutions and hoaxes can be produced with aid of human logic and imagination, and we are talking about from the point of view of "spirits" that has other aims then growing flowers, or communicating with them in fact )
there is reason why we are loved and feared as our weaknesses are worry some in combination with our potential..
...actually they spend more then 20billion dollars in OLD, public dollars.. developing anti-nature warfare and biological weapons for nature control.. with more then 15000 scientists and by 90s, 60 years on going continuous programs. From grow inhabitation to psychological and biological changes of human species.
So yeah.. they might have come and discover few things specially if we consider the spirits that help them for the main aim to surrender this final paradise here.
now most of the projects are in public schools as our non religious mind is unable by now to see the terror of the research we are advancing right now, directed by these same (thät)spirits religions talk about.
Why they need us besides our ties to nature and ability to radiate love? Our creativity for starters... and from man, the logic to over come huge problems with fast solutions (logic is unintelligent thinking process as it is not bothered by real facts, situations, circumstances, connected possibilities and most of all its not bothered by billions of variables and forces tat is between desired end point and beginning. So some unthinkable solutions and hoaxes can be produced with aid of human logic and imagination, and we are talking about from the point of view of "spirits" that has other aims then growing flowers, or communicating with them in fact )
there is reason why we are loved and feared as our weaknesses are worry some in combination with our potential..
12 August 2014 18:17
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
yeah, that makes sense. not
12 August 2014 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
shutup poor, get rich before starting to moan about poor people!
12 August 2014 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
... and then people reading this or hearing stories like that and thinking "aww... so cute, he imagined and hallucinated these nice dreams" /"back to real life now, work..."/
Well. People think its about between the borders of gaza and isreal, russia and estonia, china and japan... india and pakistan.... usa and northen mariana islands (why not) or between norway and sweden and capitalist and communists, peasants and kings Priests and breasts.. and .. parents and kids... hey... it is ABOUT plants vs non plants, and we are put on work for non plants by powerful species enough to make Nature frustrated.
Have you not seen So many art in film and books about so many ways how our species was over taken long time ago, you thought this is some cute entertainment (meele-lahutus, Est.) as well right ?
What side are you choosing really if i ask you?
Well. People think its about between the borders of gaza and isreal, russia and estonia, china and japan... india and pakistan.... usa and northen mariana islands (why not) or between norway and sweden and capitalist and communists, peasants and kings Priests and breasts.. and .. parents and kids... hey... it is ABOUT plants vs non plants, and we are put on work for non plants by powerful species enough to make Nature frustrated.
Have you not seen So many art in film and books about so many ways how our species was over taken long time ago, you thought this is some cute entertainment (meele-lahutus, Est.) as well right ?
What side are you choosing really if i ask you?
12 August 2014 00:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Mushrooms (also Magic Mushrooms, Psilocybin-containing Fungi) Reports - Mystical Experiences
(289 Total) Read, Loe:
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Mushrooms_Mystical_Experiences.shtml
Like:
Below is my story of meeting Teonanacatl, the Aztec Mushroom Spirit. This experience has deepened my respect for the very real intelligence contained in the mushroom and all other plants. Not only was I given profound insights, but Mushroom *physically* interacted with me, moving my body and teaching me about the plant world.
I smoked a small bowl of cannabis, then meditated with the music of Bach for about 30 minutes, glowing in a stream of sunlight from my back porch. I thanked the mushroom spirit for his wisdom and caring, and again repeated my love for him. This is a great way to endear Mushroom to you, though of course your love and gratitude must be sincere. As the mushrooms took over my senses, I moved to my bedroom, laid in bed, and closed my eyes. I kept repeating the word 'trust' and over time Mushroom began speaking back, reminding me to keep on trusting. He made it clear that the lesson in trust I desire begins with trust in him.
As my ego dissolved, about an hour into the trip, Mushroom showed me the great abundance and miracle that is my life. I suddenly saw the vast gifts I had created and been given, coupled with the infinite range of life's possibilities, and I felt a deep gratitude for everything in my life. I saw myself as a gorgeous ethereal being, strong in ability, able to move anywhere, able to make anything happen. This was not an ego trip, of course, it was a spiritual revelation about the truth of my being, the truth of *all* human beings, that it is our ego that *blocks* us from realizing and manifesting the possibilities.
A few insights and visions passed, then I felt a pressure on me, a force delving deep into my spirit. Instinctively I blocked it, but Mushroom asked me to trust, that he had to get at something in my soul. He said it would hurt momentarily, but that it was necessary to clear this blockage. I said okay, I trust you. I actually felt something like fingers dig around inside me and pluck something loose. Suddenly I began wretching, letting out dry heaves, coughs, and tears. I knew that I was purging out whatever blockage Mushroom had just released.
----
A tremendous wave of intense emotional energy surged and overtook me. I began bawling as I saw my friends together in a group, smiling and waving at me, inviting me to play with them. I realized I had been unduly mistrusting them, not seeing their love for me, completely missing the boat of friendship, and I surged with love for them and for myself. The intense emotion lasted a while, then as it faded I realized I had to pee. But Mushroom wouldn't let me, he told me again to trust him and trust my body, that I don't have to pee right now, that I have more lessons to learn first.
After a few more insights, Mushroom gave me permission to get up and go to the bathroom. I did so, washed my hands, then realized I was losing control of my fingers. I felt a force from within me trying to move my body, as if I were possessed. I closed my eyes and could see a vague human form, not my own, entering my body. I gave Mushroom permission to take me, I reiterated my trust, relaxed my body completely, and offered myself to him.
Suddenly my arms began moving of their own accord. I soon realized that I was being pulled towards the front of my apartment. I followed the tug, my arms outstretched, as if hands were gripping them and pulling me. The tug became a yank and I barreled to my front window, where my house plants are kept. My body collapsed in front of the largest plant (I'm afraid I don't know the species name) and I became awash in the plant's energy. I held one of the larger leaves to my face and I could feel intense healing energy entering my body. I began uttering deep, guttural, lion-like breaths as the energy of the plant coursed through me.
---
Mushroom then began teaching me. He told me this plant specializes in healing and that if I approach it correctly I can tap into its energy whenever I want. As I continued to bask in the energy, Mushroom then told me something startling: he said humans were long ago taken over by anti-plant spirits, spirits bent on destroying the plants, and that since that time there has been a battle raging between the plant spirits and the anti-plant spirits. He said the plants have been trying desperately to wake up humanity to this, but humans are still under the spell of the other forces. I declared my alliance with the plant spirits and I pledged to learn and live as a plant steward.
---
I sat back, my body limp, feeling rejuvenated, not to mention in utter awe at what was happening. Then my arms began moving again. As they rose up and moved around, I asked what was going on. I said 'you're enjoying messing with my body, aren't you?'. I could then *feel* a sigh in my mind, and my arms suddenly went limp. What I didn't realize was Mushroom was trying to get me to get up and move, but since I didn't respond he let go in frustration and instructed the plant that was just healing me to push me away. The healing energy I was soaking in suddenly became rigid and I was physically pushed away by the plant. My body felt the force of it and moved back, which confused me at first. Thinking the plant was angry with me, I stood up and apologized to it for whatever I did or didn't do. But then my right arm started moving and was again tugged, this time towards the back of my apartment.
It was as if a hand was gripping my arm, pulling me towards my back porch. I again barreled in the direction of Mushroom's pull, but when I reached the porch I yanked my arm back and said 'wait a minute!'. I told Mushroom I was confused by this interaction, that I don't really like being yanked around, and that I needed a moment to get my bearings. He gave me a minute, then started lightly pulling at my arm, towards my back window. I looked out the window and saw my garden in the backyard. I acknowledged the garden. Mushroom said 'good, now let's go outside.'
Once again my arm was being tugged, this time towards the door to outside. I live in a densely populated city, therefore I was very reluctant, telling Mushroom I was uncomfortable going outside while tripping, since people could see me, and I sure as heck didn't want people see me with my arms flailing around. Much to my surprise, Mushroom grabbed my foot and spun my leg around! He then grabbed both arms, tugging me towards outside. I reiterated my fear of being seen, but Mushroom repeated his request to trust him, so I said okay, but told him I had to put my outside slippers on first.
I couldn't find the slippers, so I asked Mushroom for help. He told me they were in my kitchen under the ironing board. I checked and voila, there they were. I put on my slippers and walked towards the door.
---
I could feel Mushroom leading me, tugging at my spirit as I walked towards the garden. I kneeled in front of the new strawberry plants that were just planted there, but then I began to feel self conscious just kneeling and tripping while I could hear my neighbors, wondering what they'd think if they saw me. So I hurried back inside, which made Mushroom a bit frustrated. He told me again to trust him, that if I felt self conscious kneeling by the garden I could instead sit in a chair, so if someone saw me I'd just be relaxing, enjoying the evening breeze. I wasn't sure there was a chair in my backyard, but I trusted him and went back outside. True to his word, a lawn chair was sitting against the back wall of my house, so I pulled it up and took a seat.
Mushroom told me to look down at the grass. As I did so, the lawn began morphing like it was animate life, the energy of the grass being made visually apparent to me. My cat was by my side this whole time (which was unusual since he usually likes to roam) and he was chewing on some of the grass. I asked Mushroom if the grass minded my cat stomping and eating them and he said of course they don't mind, that's what the grass is for, indeed that is what all plants are for: nourishment and healing. It is when we cut and burn and trash that the plants get angry with us.
I then felt Mushroom wanting me to get up. At this point he was fading, and he had a resultant urgency, tugging at me to move. I got up, thinking he wanted me to take a walk. I walked out into the alley behind my house, but I was misinterpreting Mushroom's request. No matter where I walked, Mushroom kept trying to pull me back the other way. It wasn't until later that I realized Mushroom was pulling me back to my garden, but his messages were so weak by this point I was getting frustrated not understanding them (and so was he). I walked around my block twice, back and forth through my alley, thinking I was supposed to be getting some sort of clue.
I eventually slumped back into the lawn chair, and asked Mushroom for one final sign. A robin swooped in and perched on my neighbor's garage, faced me, sang a little song, then took off over my head. The garden was directly in between me and the robin, a clear sign of where Mushroom wanted me to go. I got up to get close to the garden again, but by then Mushroom was too weak to teach me anything. I asked Mushroom if there was anything more or if I can go back inside. Mushroom gave me one last tug in exasperation, pulling me in one final annoyed effort towards my house, as if to say 'Fine! Go back inside! I'm through with you anyway.' I could feel his disappointment in my missing his lesson.
I went back into my apartment and laid down on my bed. I was feeling awful, like I really had let Mushroom down. I got up, put my hand into my stash, feeling the remaining mushrooms vibrating in resonance against my fingers, and I told Mushroom I love him and trust him, and I apologized for not getting his lesson. His last message to me was 'trust that I love you, too.'
(289 Total) Read, Loe:
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Mushrooms_Mystical_Experiences.shtml
Like:
Below is my story of meeting Teonanacatl, the Aztec Mushroom Spirit. This experience has deepened my respect for the very real intelligence contained in the mushroom and all other plants. Not only was I given profound insights, but Mushroom *physically* interacted with me, moving my body and teaching me about the plant world.
I smoked a small bowl of cannabis, then meditated with the music of Bach for about 30 minutes, glowing in a stream of sunlight from my back porch. I thanked the mushroom spirit for his wisdom and caring, and again repeated my love for him. This is a great way to endear Mushroom to you, though of course your love and gratitude must be sincere. As the mushrooms took over my senses, I moved to my bedroom, laid in bed, and closed my eyes. I kept repeating the word 'trust' and over time Mushroom began speaking back, reminding me to keep on trusting. He made it clear that the lesson in trust I desire begins with trust in him.
As my ego dissolved, about an hour into the trip, Mushroom showed me the great abundance and miracle that is my life. I suddenly saw the vast gifts I had created and been given, coupled with the infinite range of life's possibilities, and I felt a deep gratitude for everything in my life. I saw myself as a gorgeous ethereal being, strong in ability, able to move anywhere, able to make anything happen. This was not an ego trip, of course, it was a spiritual revelation about the truth of my being, the truth of *all* human beings, that it is our ego that *blocks* us from realizing and manifesting the possibilities.
A few insights and visions passed, then I felt a pressure on me, a force delving deep into my spirit. Instinctively I blocked it, but Mushroom asked me to trust, that he had to get at something in my soul. He said it would hurt momentarily, but that it was necessary to clear this blockage. I said okay, I trust you. I actually felt something like fingers dig around inside me and pluck something loose. Suddenly I began wretching, letting out dry heaves, coughs, and tears. I knew that I was purging out whatever blockage Mushroom had just released.
----
A tremendous wave of intense emotional energy surged and overtook me. I began bawling as I saw my friends together in a group, smiling and waving at me, inviting me to play with them. I realized I had been unduly mistrusting them, not seeing their love for me, completely missing the boat of friendship, and I surged with love for them and for myself. The intense emotion lasted a while, then as it faded I realized I had to pee. But Mushroom wouldn't let me, he told me again to trust him and trust my body, that I don't have to pee right now, that I have more lessons to learn first.
After a few more insights, Mushroom gave me permission to get up and go to the bathroom. I did so, washed my hands, then realized I was losing control of my fingers. I felt a force from within me trying to move my body, as if I were possessed. I closed my eyes and could see a vague human form, not my own, entering my body. I gave Mushroom permission to take me, I reiterated my trust, relaxed my body completely, and offered myself to him.
Suddenly my arms began moving of their own accord. I soon realized that I was being pulled towards the front of my apartment. I followed the tug, my arms outstretched, as if hands were gripping them and pulling me. The tug became a yank and I barreled to my front window, where my house plants are kept. My body collapsed in front of the largest plant (I'm afraid I don't know the species name) and I became awash in the plant's energy. I held one of the larger leaves to my face and I could feel intense healing energy entering my body. I began uttering deep, guttural, lion-like breaths as the energy of the plant coursed through me.
---
Mushroom then began teaching me. He told me this plant specializes in healing and that if I approach it correctly I can tap into its energy whenever I want. As I continued to bask in the energy, Mushroom then told me something startling: he said humans were long ago taken over by anti-plant spirits, spirits bent on destroying the plants, and that since that time there has been a battle raging between the plant spirits and the anti-plant spirits. He said the plants have been trying desperately to wake up humanity to this, but humans are still under the spell of the other forces. I declared my alliance with the plant spirits and I pledged to learn and live as a plant steward.
---
I sat back, my body limp, feeling rejuvenated, not to mention in utter awe at what was happening. Then my arms began moving again. As they rose up and moved around, I asked what was going on. I said 'you're enjoying messing with my body, aren't you?'. I could then *feel* a sigh in my mind, and my arms suddenly went limp. What I didn't realize was Mushroom was trying to get me to get up and move, but since I didn't respond he let go in frustration and instructed the plant that was just healing me to push me away. The healing energy I was soaking in suddenly became rigid and I was physically pushed away by the plant. My body felt the force of it and moved back, which confused me at first. Thinking the plant was angry with me, I stood up and apologized to it for whatever I did or didn't do. But then my right arm started moving and was again tugged, this time towards the back of my apartment.
It was as if a hand was gripping my arm, pulling me towards my back porch. I again barreled in the direction of Mushroom's pull, but when I reached the porch I yanked my arm back and said 'wait a minute!'. I told Mushroom I was confused by this interaction, that I don't really like being yanked around, and that I needed a moment to get my bearings. He gave me a minute, then started lightly pulling at my arm, towards my back window. I looked out the window and saw my garden in the backyard. I acknowledged the garden. Mushroom said 'good, now let's go outside.'
Once again my arm was being tugged, this time towards the door to outside. I live in a densely populated city, therefore I was very reluctant, telling Mushroom I was uncomfortable going outside while tripping, since people could see me, and I sure as heck didn't want people see me with my arms flailing around. Much to my surprise, Mushroom grabbed my foot and spun my leg around! He then grabbed both arms, tugging me towards outside. I reiterated my fear of being seen, but Mushroom repeated his request to trust him, so I said okay, but told him I had to put my outside slippers on first.
I couldn't find the slippers, so I asked Mushroom for help. He told me they were in my kitchen under the ironing board. I checked and voila, there they were. I put on my slippers and walked towards the door.
---
I could feel Mushroom leading me, tugging at my spirit as I walked towards the garden. I kneeled in front of the new strawberry plants that were just planted there, but then I began to feel self conscious just kneeling and tripping while I could hear my neighbors, wondering what they'd think if they saw me. So I hurried back inside, which made Mushroom a bit frustrated. He told me again to trust him, that if I felt self conscious kneeling by the garden I could instead sit in a chair, so if someone saw me I'd just be relaxing, enjoying the evening breeze. I wasn't sure there was a chair in my backyard, but I trusted him and went back outside. True to his word, a lawn chair was sitting against the back wall of my house, so I pulled it up and took a seat.
Mushroom told me to look down at the grass. As I did so, the lawn began morphing like it was animate life, the energy of the grass being made visually apparent to me. My cat was by my side this whole time (which was unusual since he usually likes to roam) and he was chewing on some of the grass. I asked Mushroom if the grass minded my cat stomping and eating them and he said of course they don't mind, that's what the grass is for, indeed that is what all plants are for: nourishment and healing. It is when we cut and burn and trash that the plants get angry with us.
I then felt Mushroom wanting me to get up. At this point he was fading, and he had a resultant urgency, tugging at me to move. I got up, thinking he wanted me to take a walk. I walked out into the alley behind my house, but I was misinterpreting Mushroom's request. No matter where I walked, Mushroom kept trying to pull me back the other way. It wasn't until later that I realized Mushroom was pulling me back to my garden, but his messages were so weak by this point I was getting frustrated not understanding them (and so was he). I walked around my block twice, back and forth through my alley, thinking I was supposed to be getting some sort of clue.
I eventually slumped back into the lawn chair, and asked Mushroom for one final sign. A robin swooped in and perched on my neighbor's garage, faced me, sang a little song, then took off over my head. The garden was directly in between me and the robin, a clear sign of where Mushroom wanted me to go. I got up to get close to the garden again, but by then Mushroom was too weak to teach me anything. I asked Mushroom if there was anything more or if I can go back inside. Mushroom gave me one last tug in exasperation, pulling me in one final annoyed effort towards my house, as if to say 'Fine! Go back inside! I'm through with you anyway.' I could feel his disappointment in my missing his lesson.
I went back into my apartment and laid down on my bed. I was feeling awful, like I really had let Mushroom down. I got up, put my hand into my stash, feeling the remaining mushrooms vibrating in resonance against my fingers, and I told Mushroom I love him and trust him, and I apologized for not getting his lesson. His last message to me was 'trust that I love you, too.'
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Mushrooms_Mystical_Experiences.shtml
12 August 2014 00:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Mushrooms Reports
(also Magic Mushrooms, Psilocybin-containing Fungi) (1896 Total)
(see ALSO Amanitas)
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Mushrooms.shtml
(also Magic Mushrooms, Psilocybin-containing Fungi) (1896 Total)
(see ALSO Amanitas)
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Mushrooms.shtml
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Mushrooms.shtml
12 August 2014 00:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Inside that start of the comment is kind of all you need to know really.. : )
You Cannot Deny the Experiences of Others
(23937 Reports Total)
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp_list.shtml
You Cannot Deny the Experiences of Others
(23937 Reports Total)
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp_list.shtml
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp_list.shtml
12 August 2014 00:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
nu ja ju see loodus meid tegi mingil põhjusel kuid selleks põhjuseks kindlasti pold aint karjaloomade pidamine ja iPodid
11 August 2014 23:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
nu taimed kõrgmad organismid kui loomad, nad juba aru saanud kuidas ringi tatsamata elada, neil mõistus ja intelligents ka kõrgem, puudel kohe kindlasti
puudest e itea kas nad suudavad kuid taimed suutvat ennast taime küljest lahti hingeliselt ühendada enne taime murdmist, et siis viimane haiget saamist ei pidavat vast taluma... samas jälle kas see tähendab, et sööme surnud toimateid...
puudest e itea kas nad suudavad kuid taimed suutvat ennast taime küljest lahti hingeliselt ühendada enne taime murdmist, et siis viimane haiget saamist ei pidavat vast taluma... samas jälle kas see tähendab, et sööme surnud toimateid...
11 August 2014 23:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
nu praegu me killimegi ju, isenast loomi killides keda pole vaja meie elusolemiseks killida
11 August 2014 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
nujah noh
11 August 2014 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.porknetwork.com/pork-news/Commentary-Allergic-to-meat-168173256.html?view=all on about i and more from common point of view
http://www.porknetwork.com/pork-news/Commentary-Allergic-to-meat-168173256.html?view=all
11 August 2014 23:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Not much to do with all but Ted Schwarz who is co-author of the book also has written biography about Kennedy, Grand Dame Doris Duke, John DeLorean and (so called)Cuban CIA asset "Marita." for name of view.. just to let know, the interesting spectrum of profile interests.
11 August 2014 16:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
but yes, the http://www.amazon.com/gp/review/R2QFG2FOQ6ZLZS/ref=cm_cr_pr_cmt_btn?ASIN=0966894901#wasThisHelpful is least professional in current day scientific sense but way worth to read to fresh mind with this unless you already are.
Most religious people (meaning most people in the planet) usually ask how human can be truly psychiatrist and not religious-spiritual legally, how that is even allowed. As one is not able to communicate with rest of the worlds that troubled human is connected to, only to doctor self world will be dialogue it seems from logical point of view..
Anyway, please let me know about this materials (a lot more on website under "Unpublished works" )
Give me even some strong warnings, signals or criticism, its restful for the mind to look this info
Rest of the reviews are good as well: http://www.amazon.com/ss/customer-reviews/0966894901
This is how we here think most politics and army personnel is ..directed. Guided
Most religious people (meaning most people in the planet) usually ask how human can be truly psychiatrist and not religious-spiritual legally, how that is even allowed. As one is not able to communicate with rest of the worlds that troubled human is connected to, only to doctor self world will be dialogue it seems from logical point of view..
Anyway, please let me know about this materials (a lot more on website under "Unpublished works" )
Give me even some strong warnings, signals or criticism, its restful for the mind to look this info
Rest of the reviews are good as well: http://www.amazon.com/ss/customer-reviews/0966894901
This is how we here think most politics and army personnel is ..directed. Guided
http://www.amazon.com/gp/review/R2QFG2FOQ6ZLZS/ref=cm_cr_pr_cmt_btn?ASIN=0966894901#wasThisHelpful
11 August 2014 15:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i missed the event but its one of the normal type of old buildings, not really A house, more like "hütt" build for temporary purpose in woods, for sauna or for light living
11 August 2014 14:01
Margus Meigo replied to his own comment.
its as much news as Edwards "NSA secrets"
10 August 2014 05:58
Margus Meigo commented on Committee of 666's link.
i have no idea from where people got this idea they can be anonymous as normal users in Tor anyway as it was made for reason to filter out "anonymous" people who use internet for reasons that are shady, ... so its more EASY to see who is planing to use internet abnormal ways.
Told that long time ago before Bitcoing conference times few years ago and people back then was all like "ooo you are crazy, this is conspiracy"
this is just logic, besides reading old email archives you can see that Tor developers them self also told ,that army just needed normal Tor users to have full usage of network and as win win situation also all the kids they used for their reasons was coming to them showing what they do.
There is MORE wide ways between ISP pipes to filter out and pin point most users who is needed in Tor not just the home made discovered ones, its just SO basic,
seriously, 2014 we still wondering about it.
Told that long time ago before Bitcoing conference times few years ago and people back then was all like "ooo you are crazy, this is conspiracy"
this is just logic, besides reading old email archives you can see that Tor developers them self also told ,that army just needed normal Tor users to have full usage of network and as win win situation also all the kids they used for their reasons was coming to them showing what they do.
There is MORE wide ways between ISP pipes to filter out and pin point most users who is needed in Tor not just the home made discovered ones, its just SO basic,
seriously, 2014 we still wondering about it.
10 August 2014 05:57
Margus Meigo commented on Committee of 666's link.
I do like it, as technology,
you want source ? :D
you want source ? :D
10 August 2014 03:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Also many good movies on he list: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XROtkzxPFsU&list=FLahMz3MlKIC_D4aIiXD20iw
MANY good ones, i must say once more... as they are still up in internets
MANY good ones, i must say once more... as they are still up in internets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XROtkzxPFsU&list=FLahMz3MlKIC_D4aIiXD20iw
10 August 2014 02:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Please look my friend personal filmed videos on he channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCahMz3MlKIC_D4aIiXD20iw
from Deep and real people
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCahMz3MlKIC_D4aIiXD20iw
from Deep and real people
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCahMz3MlKIC_D4aIiXD20iw
10 August 2014 02:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Punk pole punane
aga siit mängib ikka eks http://picosong.com/c6Pd/http://picosong.com/c6Pd/
9 August 2014 23:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Punk pole punane
nu tohhotohlam siis peab ikka eriti viga olema kuskil baitide vahel kui EmPeeKolmee ka ei ava :D9 August 2014 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Punk pole punane
Pikk, kuidas ei ava http://eestipunk.rockiklubi.ee/mp3/oips_kgb.mp3 ?http://eestipunk.rockiklubi.ee/mp3/oips_kgb.mp3
9 August 2014 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on Eve Kikas's post.
need kes vaksiine peale suruvad, need ka ajupuudulikusega, seda uuringut võiksid nad ka teha
9 August 2014 23:26
Margus Meigo commented on Gildon R Turner's post.
Magic Mushrooms
9 August 2014 23:19
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
saw you in a dream last night,
was not good one
was not good one
9 August 2014 23:18
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiine Mäss's link.
Väga hea!
Nii paljud mehed tunnevatki,
paljud muidugi tunnevad rõõmu ka : )
Nii paljud mehed tunnevatki,
paljud muidugi tunnevad rõõmu ka : )
9 August 2014 21:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kuid jah,
Jälle läbi on saand see kaunis suvi,
sellest vikerkaar alles vaid jäi,
nüüd naerame koos,
sest käes on sügis-
see pime aeg
http://biblehub.com/genesis/9-13.htm
Jälle läbi on saand see kaunis suvi,
sellest vikerkaar alles vaid jäi,
nüüd naerame koos,
sest käes on sügis-
see pime aeg
http://biblehub.com/genesis/9-13.htm
http://biblehub.com/genesis/9-13.htm
8 August 2014 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kuulake ka viimast tanaöist hallokosmost (R2 kordus) koos järgnevate lauludega, see playlist mida nad mängivad on ju saadaval?
8 August 2014 03:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ja veel üritusi meeldivaid http://www.rada7.ee/artikkel/77827/Solistitium-2014-psy-trance-Louna-Eesti-metsade-vahel "Nimelt toimuvat salajases asupaigas X, kuskil sügaval Valgamaa-Võrumaa metsades midagi suhteliselt salapärast: psy-trance mikro-festival Solistitium 2014 (20.-22. juuni). Paar kõnet mõnele sotsiaalmeediast leitud numbrile - ei midagi. Lõpuks tänuväärne vastus ja edastatud kiri juhistega festivalile kohale sõitmiseks. “Sealt mahajäetud tööstushoone juurest teine tee vasakule, natuke saad veel edasi sõita... mis auto on muidu? Toyoto Corolla? No siis pargi parem esimese sildi juures ära, me just lükkasime 10 meetrit põhja peal mööda muda.”...."
http://www.rada7.ee/artikkel/77827/Solistitium-2014-psy-trance-Louna-Eesti-metsade-vahel
7 August 2014 20:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkkdx5DUPnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkkdx5DUPnc
7 August 2014 20:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Me ei anna andeks
Selgitust mis mõnel asjad vähem selgemaks võib teha... kuid läksime:
Inimeste, gruppide, sõprade ja perevaheline eemaldamine kapitalismi või kommunismi abil (mõlemad ühe ja sama inimese solkimise süsteemi kaks eri varjanti kus pohi suunad on samad: usuliste väärtuste naeruvääristamine mis eemaldab inimese austamast ja targasti mõtlemast nii heas kui raskes ajas, taime teaduste hingelisuse eemaldamine ja vahetamine teaduse kontroll süsteemiga mis dikteerib filtrina kuidas on normaalne uskuda, mõelda ja kõige viimaks peresidemete eemaldamine pudipadist sõltuvaks inimesi tehes (arvutimängudest poliitiliste arvamusteni, arvamuste vahel kus mõlemad pooled ühes ja samas taskus, võlts turvalisusele suunamine kus viisnurk ise omab nii ründavat kui kaitsevat poolt, eemaldades oskused inimestelt kuidas ise hakkama saada ja tehes raha süsteem enamuste jaoks nii minimaalseks, et suurem osa hakkaks uskuma, et on normaalne enamuse päevast tööd teha kellegi teise jaoks perest eemal olles. Ning jah kõige olulisem: naise väärtuste madaldamine mis siin maailmas meile otse ringiga alati lõpmatuna tagasi toob madalamale kui see kuidas kollektiivselt naissugu austame lubades käitumisi ühiskonnas))
alates lapsepõlvest.
Liiga keeruline igast murjamite, ja istide järgi eri regulatsioone ja poliitilist korrektsust välja mõtlema hakata, võiks olla lihtne reegel: Kui toode, saade või käitumine on naist kahjustav (keele, toidu, käitumise, laste jms osas) siis seda riik mingil juhul ei peaks toetama ja noomima kõiki selle toote eetrisse laskjaid ja promojaid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-K8kwQpT-Q&list=RDoZR-hHso6dM&index=24
Muide... kraani kausiga .. see kraunikauss oli üks mugavus mille kaudu saadi meid karpidesse elama, sest see naise hingele tundub eluliselt kauslik, nagu ta ongi : )https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-K8kwQpT-Q&list=RDoZR-hHso6dM&index=24
29 July 2014 15:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://plus.google.com/photos/+MargusWaffa/albums/5856134838441087313/5856303030145317378?banner=pwa&pid=5856303030145317378&oid=102871056968914830739
https://plus.google.com/photos/+MargusWaffa/albums/5856134838441087313/5856303030145317378?banner=pwa&pid=5856303030145317378&oid=102871056968914830739
29 July 2014 03:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
29 July 2014 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on Mairi Heinmann's post.
Group: "Metal/punk/rock/sludge/ armastajad"
PÄris mõnus mahe29 July 2014 00:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Paratamatult, siia otse sobib veel ka panna selle filmi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU4cmRLcP68&list=TLJyMWUfjdllNkB3eLkwdwUu9oiqQuV320 mille olulisusest saaks kokku ka ühelühifilmi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU4cmRLcP68&list=TLJyMWUfjdllNkB3eLkwdwUu9oiqQuV320
28 July 2014 14:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
SIin teine osa millest räägitud sai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ilFvGHyJM jah, olid marimummud aiamaal meil kõigi maa inimestel, nüüdmummud peas ja rätikul vaid ja ait on vana koht mida külastatud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ilFvGHyJM jah, olid marimummud aiamaal meil kõigi maa inimestel, nüüdmummud peas ja rätikul vaid ja ait on vana koht mida külastatud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ilFvGHyJM
28 July 2014 14:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Theotokos, Queen of Heaven and Blessed Virgin Mary
Most Christians regard the Mary, the mother of Jesus, as the Theotokos (or Mother of God). For many believers as a "spiritual mother," since she not only fulfills a maternal role, but is often viewed as a protective and intercessory force, a divinely established mediator for humanity, but stress that she is not worshipped as a divine "mother goddess". The Roman Catholic, Anglican, Oriental Orthodox, and Eastern Orthodox churches identify "the woman clothed in sun" described in Revelation 12 as Mary because in verse 5, this woman is said to have given "birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod", whom they identify as Jesus Christ. Then, in verse 17 of Revelation 12, the Bible describes "the rest of her offspring" as "those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus." These Christians believe themselves to be the other "offspring" because they try to "keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus," and thus, they embrace Mary as their "mother". They also cite John 19:26–27 where Jesus entrusts his mother to the Beloved Disciple as evidence that Mary is the mother of all Christians, taking the command "behold thy mother" to apply generally. The Roman Catholics refer to her as, the Blessed Virgin Mary.
In 300 A.D., the Blessed Virgin Mary was worshipped as a Mother Goddess in the Christian sect Collyridianism, which was found throughout Saudi Arabia. Collyridianism was made up mostly of women followers and female priests. Followers of Collyridianism were known to make bread and wheat offerings to the Virgin Mary, along with other sacrificial practices. The cult was heavily condemned as heretical and schismatic by the Roman Catholic Church and was preached against by Epiphanius of Salamis, who exposed the group in his recollective writings entitled, Panarion.
As motherhood is a recurring concept in many religions, the Blessed Virgin Mary received many titles in the Roman Catholic Church, such as Queen of Heaven and Our Lady, Star of the Sea, that are familiar from earlier Near Eastern traditions. Due to this correlation, some Protestants often accuse Catholics of viewing Mary as a goddess, but the Roman Catholic Church and Orthodox churches always have condemned "worship as adoration" of Mary. Part of this accusation is due to the Catholic practice of prayer as a means of communication rather than as a means of worship. Catholics believe that the faithful dead have achieved eternal life and can intercede for people here on earth. Concepts of Mother Goddess worshipped is heavily condemned by the Holy See as it had been suppressed and condemned among the Collyridianist sect in 300 A.D.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collyridianism
Most Christians regard the Mary, the mother of Jesus, as the Theotokos (or Mother of God). For many believers as a "spiritual mother," since she not only fulfills a maternal role, but is often viewed as a protective and intercessory force, a divinely established mediator for humanity, but stress that she is not worshipped as a divine "mother goddess". The Roman Catholic, Anglican, Oriental Orthodox, and Eastern Orthodox churches identify "the woman clothed in sun" described in Revelation 12 as Mary because in verse 5, this woman is said to have given "birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod", whom they identify as Jesus Christ. Then, in verse 17 of Revelation 12, the Bible describes "the rest of her offspring" as "those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus." These Christians believe themselves to be the other "offspring" because they try to "keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus," and thus, they embrace Mary as their "mother". They also cite John 19:26–27 where Jesus entrusts his mother to the Beloved Disciple as evidence that Mary is the mother of all Christians, taking the command "behold thy mother" to apply generally. The Roman Catholics refer to her as, the Blessed Virgin Mary.
In 300 A.D., the Blessed Virgin Mary was worshipped as a Mother Goddess in the Christian sect Collyridianism, which was found throughout Saudi Arabia. Collyridianism was made up mostly of women followers and female priests. Followers of Collyridianism were known to make bread and wheat offerings to the Virgin Mary, along with other sacrificial practices. The cult was heavily condemned as heretical and schismatic by the Roman Catholic Church and was preached against by Epiphanius of Salamis, who exposed the group in his recollective writings entitled, Panarion.
As motherhood is a recurring concept in many religions, the Blessed Virgin Mary received many titles in the Roman Catholic Church, such as Queen of Heaven and Our Lady, Star of the Sea, that are familiar from earlier Near Eastern traditions. Due to this correlation, some Protestants often accuse Catholics of viewing Mary as a goddess, but the Roman Catholic Church and Orthodox churches always have condemned "worship as adoration" of Mary. Part of this accusation is due to the Catholic practice of prayer as a means of communication rather than as a means of worship. Catholics believe that the faithful dead have achieved eternal life and can intercede for people here on earth. Concepts of Mother Goddess worshipped is heavily condemned by the Holy See as it had been suppressed and condemned among the Collyridianist sect in 300 A.D.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collyridianism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collyridianism
27 July 2014 21:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The Normans had a major influence on English Romanesque architecture when they built a large numbers of Christian monasteries, abbeys, churches, and cathedrals. These Romanesque styles originated in Normandy and became widespread in north western Europe, particularly in England, which has the largest number of surviving examples.
Sheela na Gig is a common stone carving found in Romanesque Christian churches scattered throughout Europe. These female figures are found in Ireland, Great Britain, France, Spain, Switzerland, Norway, Belgium, and in the Czech Republic. Their meaning is not clearly identifiable as Christian, and may be a concept that survived from ancient forms of yoni worship and sacred prostitution practiced in the goddess temples. Some of the figures seem to be elements of earlier structures, perhaps devoted to goddess worship.
Other common motifs on Christian churches of the same time period are spirals and ouroboros or dragons swallowing their tails, which is a reference to rebirth and regeneration, a concept well known in pantheism. Other creatures including the succubus make an appearance in the sculptural reliefs of the church that have a long history in the oral tradition of previous civilizations that preceded Christianity that may relate to earlier goddess worship.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_goddess
Sheela na Gig is a common stone carving found in Romanesque Christian churches scattered throughout Europe. These female figures are found in Ireland, Great Britain, France, Spain, Switzerland, Norway, Belgium, and in the Czech Republic. Their meaning is not clearly identifiable as Christian, and may be a concept that survived from ancient forms of yoni worship and sacred prostitution practiced in the goddess temples. Some of the figures seem to be elements of earlier structures, perhaps devoted to goddess worship.
Other common motifs on Christian churches of the same time period are spirals and ouroboros or dragons swallowing their tails, which is a reference to rebirth and regeneration, a concept well known in pantheism. Other creatures including the succubus make an appearance in the sculptural reliefs of the church that have a long history in the oral tradition of previous civilizations that preceded Christianity that may relate to earlier goddess worship.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_goddess
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_goddess
27 July 2014 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Restart Eesti
aa see video selgitab asja , ulme :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrFt7fYvDAohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrFt7fYvDAo
27 July 2014 19:55
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Restart Eesti
Küsisin neilt mis toimub27 July 2014 19:49
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Restart Eesti
Artikkel ise on kahtlane, ei ole isegi kirjutatud kes autor on ja sellist keele kasutust ei kasutaks nad ise.
Tahavd nagu korra lopetada ja korra tuua.. hmmm
ja kurdavad, et keegi neist ei rääkinud kui isegi nende oma lehelt pole näha, et mingi seline kohtumine oli ja kus video lindistus kogu üritusest on,.
vaevalt, et keegi küiki hiinaja lääne video portaale pännida jõudis, et üritust ülesse poleks saanud laadida.
Youtubel isegi tasuta "live" upload kus saad otse broadcastida tasuta27 July 2014 19:36
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Restart Eesti
oh, kuid samas..
"The Group of 77 (G-77) was established on 15 June 1964 by seventy-seven developing countries signatories of the “Joint Declaration of the Seventy-Seven Developing Countries” issued at the end of the first session of the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) in Geneva..."27 July 2014 19:29
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Restart Eesti
Meil pole vaja siin hävitada, hävitus tööriistad on nede kasutada kelle üle me kurdame... umbes nagu kartuli kasvatusega hakata põllumajanduse vastu võitlema.
kuid laähen loen nüüd, millest nad ka räägivad :P27 July 2014 19:03
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's post.
Nu sa muidu "kohal" seeeest : )
27 July 2014 14:16
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's post.
Kuidas tingimisel on olnud ?
27 July 2014 14:15
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Mölter's post.
kumb on kumb ?
27 July 2014 13:40
Margus Meigo commented on Enit Arusoo's photo.
Ma usun, et leebe loomuga inimene ikka tuleb .)
27 July 2014 13:16
Margus Meigo commented on Enit Arusoo's photo.
See niii hea pilt : )
27 July 2014 13:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Loodusesõbrad
Tervist ka! : )27 July 2014 08:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siis vist hästi :)
27 July 2014 08:00
Margus Meigo commented on Melly Bee's post.
Group: Music With Meaning
But this real song yes pretty good, and the ilustrations about ice heart etc: )27 July 2014 00:01
Margus Meigo commented on Melly Bee's post.
Group: Music With Meaning
3:15 oli päris hea, isiklik teema.
Tegelt mitmeid häid kohtasi kuid mälestusi kustutavad valged fläshid häirivad27 July 2014 00:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Lennard and bush
ttp://www.rferl.org/articleprintview/1066680.html
http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1066680.html
he knew just where President Bush could go fishing and catch "a really big salmon." Bush, intrigued, asked Lennart to show him precisely where on the magnificent antique globe standing nearby.
Meri promptly got up, walked over to the globe, took out his ink pen, and placed an X on the spot designating a river in Kamchatka in the Russian Far East. Most of those in the room were aghast at this breach of protocol -- not to speak of their fears about possible damage to an incredibly valuable object.
He left his mark literally 15 years ago during two visits to the White House in Washington. At that time, Lennart -- and he was on a first name basis with virtually everyone he came into contact with after only a few minutes -- was foreign minister of a country still occupied by the Soviet Union.
Five months later, Meri returned to the Oval Office, this time as the representative of an Estonia that had recovered its independence. When he came into the room, President Bush lost no time in asking his "old friend" to show him again just where that river with the salmon was. And again, Lennart got up, walked to the globe -- which had been repaired in the meantime -- took out his pen and placed an X just where he had before. The president laughed, and the friendship was sealed.
Born on March 29, 1929, Meri was the son of one of the most distinguished of Estonia's pre-war diplomats. He grew up in the Estonian missions in Paris and Berlin, learning French so well that several French presidents went out of their way and in clear violation of protocol to have him seated next to them at dinners in Paris. His German was reputedly so good that several Baltic German families said they were sure that somehow, somewhere there was German in his background.
ttp://www.rferl.org/articleprintview/1066680.html
http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1066680.html
he knew just where President Bush could go fishing and catch "a really big salmon." Bush, intrigued, asked Lennart to show him precisely where on the magnificent antique globe standing nearby.
Meri promptly got up, walked over to the globe, took out his ink pen, and placed an X on the spot designating a river in Kamchatka in the Russian Far East. Most of those in the room were aghast at this breach of protocol -- not to speak of their fears about possible damage to an incredibly valuable object.
He left his mark literally 15 years ago during two visits to the White House in Washington. At that time, Lennart -- and he was on a first name basis with virtually everyone he came into contact with after only a few minutes -- was foreign minister of a country still occupied by the Soviet Union.
Five months later, Meri returned to the Oval Office, this time as the representative of an Estonia that had recovered its independence. When he came into the room, President Bush lost no time in asking his "old friend" to show him again just where that river with the salmon was. And again, Lennart got up, walked to the globe -- which had been repaired in the meantime -- took out his pen and placed an X just where he had before. The president laughed, and the friendship was sealed.
Born on March 29, 1929, Meri was the son of one of the most distinguished of Estonia's pre-war diplomats. He grew up in the Estonian missions in Paris and Berlin, learning French so well that several French presidents went out of their way and in clear violation of protocol to have him seated next to them at dinners in Paris. His German was reputedly so good that several Baltic German families said they were sure that somehow, somewhere there was German in his background.
http://www.rferl.org/articleprintview/1066680.html
26 July 2014 23:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
More interesting words
http://telaviv.vm.ee/frontpage/estonia/history/newwin/aid-501
The non-recognition of the Soviet Union's occupation of Estonia by the United States of America, the People's Republic of China, the EU states, the Council of Europe and the European Parliament as well as many others. Non-recognition of the occupation has ensured that the Republic of Estonia is the legal continuation of the Republic of Estonia, which was illegally occupied by the Soviet Union in 1940.
To help depoliticise the Paldiski negotiations the Swedish government initiated the Paldiski International Expert Advisory Group with experts from Sweden, Germany, the US and other countries.
The environmental damage in the Baltic States from the fifty-year presence of Soviet troops is estimated to run into the tens of billions of dollars. The US government donated 2 million USD dollars for environmental work at Paldiski. The Paldiski site is currently being managed by state company AS Alara.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1514294/Lennart-Meri.html
Critics suggested he could sometimes be arrogant, and at 6 ft 4 ins tall he could certainly appear a dominant personality. But those that met him were inevitably struck by his curiosity, erudition, pride in all things Estonian and mischievous sense of humour.
In his presidential office, Meri was particularly fond of a map depicting the Baltic region in the 17th century, when the Swedes were at the height of their power and the boundaries of Estonia stretched far inside what is now Russia. "It's my favourite map," he told a visiting journalist. "But I always try to stand in front of it when the Russian ambassador comes to visit."
To those who suggested that there could be some sort of watered-down membership of Nato for the Baltic States, he retorted: "Security is like virginity: you are either a virgin or you are not. You either have security or you do not."
By the late 1970s Meri was allowed to travel to the West and rarely wasted an opportunity to remind the free world of Estonia's existence - and to alert the wider world to protests over Soviet plans to mine phosphate in Estonia.
There followed a colourful career as a travel writer (featuring remote spots in the Soviet Union, including Samarkand, Tashkent and Kamchatka) and as the producer of films that won international renown
http://telaviv.vm.ee/frontpage/estonia/history/newwin/aid-501
The non-recognition of the Soviet Union's occupation of Estonia by the United States of America, the People's Republic of China, the EU states, the Council of Europe and the European Parliament as well as many others. Non-recognition of the occupation has ensured that the Republic of Estonia is the legal continuation of the Republic of Estonia, which was illegally occupied by the Soviet Union in 1940.
To help depoliticise the Paldiski negotiations the Swedish government initiated the Paldiski International Expert Advisory Group with experts from Sweden, Germany, the US and other countries.
The environmental damage in the Baltic States from the fifty-year presence of Soviet troops is estimated to run into the tens of billions of dollars. The US government donated 2 million USD dollars for environmental work at Paldiski. The Paldiski site is currently being managed by state company AS Alara.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1514294/Lennart-Meri.html
Critics suggested he could sometimes be arrogant, and at 6 ft 4 ins tall he could certainly appear a dominant personality. But those that met him were inevitably struck by his curiosity, erudition, pride in all things Estonian and mischievous sense of humour.
In his presidential office, Meri was particularly fond of a map depicting the Baltic region in the 17th century, when the Swedes were at the height of their power and the boundaries of Estonia stretched far inside what is now Russia. "It's my favourite map," he told a visiting journalist. "But I always try to stand in front of it when the Russian ambassador comes to visit."
To those who suggested that there could be some sort of watered-down membership of Nato for the Baltic States, he retorted: "Security is like virginity: you are either a virgin or you are not. You either have security or you do not."
By the late 1970s Meri was allowed to travel to the West and rarely wasted an opportunity to remind the free world of Estonia's existence - and to alert the wider world to protests over Soviet plans to mine phosphate in Estonia.
There followed a colourful career as a travel writer (featuring remote spots in the Soviet Union, including Samarkand, Tashkent and Kamchatka) and as the producer of films that won international renown
http://telaviv.vm.ee/frontpage/estonia/history/newwin/aid-501
26 July 2014 23:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
More about Meri and Jelsin meeting and Him
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?r103:E29JY4-57:
Congressional Record 103rd Congress (1993-1994)
Mr. HOYER. Boris Yeltsin and Lennart Meri gave their countries and the world a very pleasant surprise: They reached agreement on the withdrawal of Russian forces from Estonia
The accord was unexpected because relations between Russia and Estonia in recent months have been quite tense, and a compromise on the substance of the issues in dispute was beginning to appear unlikely.
Fortunately, President Clinton urged both Presidents to meet face to face, and fortunately, they did.
The agreement is significant for several reasons.
http://www.ce-review.org/00/38/amber38.html
Estonians enjoy a good conspiracy theory. Even the 1994 agreements between Presidents Lennart Meri and Boris Yeltsin on the withdrawal of Russian troops from Estonia has been shrouded in secrecy
The questionable deal was signed by the transitional government led by current opposition MP Edgar Savisaar. Savisaar is an experienced esoteric deal-pusher, which is quite evident in the current intrigues in various local councils
The document 1991, signed by then State Minister Raivo Vare and Soviet security forces envoy Vyacheslav Shironin, also reportedly offers the promise that the rights and freedoms of former KGB officials should not be restricted.
https://www.academia.edu/3649358/Rumours_and_contemporary_legends_as_part_of_identity_creation
According to these stories, a number
of famous people such as Harry S. Truman, Benito Mussolini, Franklin Delano
Roosevelt, Boriss Yeltsin, Boriss Becker, Ayrton Senna da Silva, Lady Diana etc
are either Estonians or have Estonian ancestors.
Estonia and Poland. Creativity and tradition in cultural communication
Rumours and contemporary legends as part of identity creation by Eda Kalmre
The article discusses how rumours and legends work together in cre-
ating national and personal identity. The subject matter is a narrative cycle
centred on so-called stories of descendence.
The fact is that Estonians are an agrarian nation who has never
had an upper class.
http://engforum.pravda.ru/index.php?/topic/91557-former-estonian-president-lennart-meri-dies-at-76/ /euronews
The Estonian leader's education abroad and his fluency in foreign languages were viewed with great suspicion by Soviet authorities, but his background stood him in good stead for the post-Communist era.
The Communist repression of his family left a deep wound, and it is perhaps not surprising that, as foreign minister in 1991, a quiet fury gripped him when he spotted a red flag fluttering in Tallinn and insisted it be taken down.
A translator of French literature, he formed a particularly warm relationshipwith that country, while pursuing strategic ties with Washington.
He had a reputation as a humorous eccentric, once holding a press conference in a toilet at Tallinn airport.
He was behind the planting of a million trees to celebrate Estonia's accession to NATO and the European Union - a project he had nurtured.
Writer, dramatist, historian, politican - for many, Meri was a Renaissance man
h
http://www.utsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060408/news_1m8meri.html
Mr. Meri was widely credited for remaining tough with Russian President Boris Yeltsin in negotiations on the withdrawal of Russian troops from Estonia in 1994.
Among ordinary Estonians, Mr. Meri was a beloved, charismatic father figure, whose dry humor and razor-sharp wit only added to his charm. Government officials, however, were often wary of him because of his scathing attacks on unethical practices and corrupt civil servants.
Internationally, he was a respected statesman who had close ties with several world leaders, including former President Clinton and the late Pope John Paul II.
In 1940, the elder Meri was named Estonia's first ambassador to the United States, and the family prepared to move to Washington. But the Soviet Union annexed the Baltic republics, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, and in 1941, the Meris were deported to Siberia. With his father in a labor camp, Lennart, then 12, supported the family by working as a lumberman and as a potato peeler in a Red Army factory.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/15/international/europe/15meri.html?_r=0&pagewanted=print
Mr. Meri served two terms as president, from 1992 to 2001. An ardent nationalist who advocated free-market policies, he was one of a small handful of leaders of newly independent former Soviet republics who had no serious Communist past.
Originally trained as a historian, Mr. Meri was for decades one of Estonia's most prominent public intellectuals, an authority on the history, languages and cultures of the Finno-Ugric peoples of northeastern Europe and Siberia. From 1990 to 1992, he served as foreign minister, and for a brief period in 1992 was ambassador to Finland.
Mr. Meri negotiated a treaty with President Boris N. Yeltsin of Russia securing the withdrawal of the last Russian troops from Estonia. In return, Mr. Meri agreed to grant residence permits to Russian military pensioners living in Estonia, a move that angered many hard-line Estonian nationalists.
Mr. Meri's first marriage to Regina Ojavere ended in divorce. He is survived by his second wife, the former Helle Pihlak, an actress; two sons, Mart and Kristjan; a daughter, Tuule; and four grandchildren,
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/376031/Lennart-Meri
In 1988 Meri founded the Estonian Institute, which promoted Estonian culture through contacts with Western countries.
He then ran for president as the head of Isamaa (Fatherland), a nationalist coalition party dedicated to preserving Estonian culture. No candidate received a majority of the votes, and Meri placed second. The parliament, however, was dominated by parties aligned with Isamaa, and it elected him president on October 5, 1992.
In 1993 he refused to ratify a law requiring Russians who wished to continue living in Estonia to apply for residence permits and to pass an Estonian language test,
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?r103:E29JY4-57:
Congressional Record 103rd Congress (1993-1994)
Mr. HOYER. Boris Yeltsin and Lennart Meri gave their countries and the world a very pleasant surprise: They reached agreement on the withdrawal of Russian forces from Estonia
The accord was unexpected because relations between Russia and Estonia in recent months have been quite tense, and a compromise on the substance of the issues in dispute was beginning to appear unlikely.
Fortunately, President Clinton urged both Presidents to meet face to face, and fortunately, they did.
The agreement is significant for several reasons.
http://www.ce-review.org/00/38/amber38.html
Estonians enjoy a good conspiracy theory. Even the 1994 agreements between Presidents Lennart Meri and Boris Yeltsin on the withdrawal of Russian troops from Estonia has been shrouded in secrecy
The questionable deal was signed by the transitional government led by current opposition MP Edgar Savisaar. Savisaar is an experienced esoteric deal-pusher, which is quite evident in the current intrigues in various local councils
The document 1991, signed by then State Minister Raivo Vare and Soviet security forces envoy Vyacheslav Shironin, also reportedly offers the promise that the rights and freedoms of former KGB officials should not be restricted.
https://www.academia.edu/3649358/Rumours_and_contemporary_legends_as_part_of_identity_creation
According to these stories, a number
of famous people such as Harry S. Truman, Benito Mussolini, Franklin Delano
Roosevelt, Boriss Yeltsin, Boriss Becker, Ayrton Senna da Silva, Lady Diana etc
are either Estonians or have Estonian ancestors.
Estonia and Poland. Creativity and tradition in cultural communication
Rumours and contemporary legends as part of identity creation by Eda Kalmre
The article discusses how rumours and legends work together in cre-
ating national and personal identity. The subject matter is a narrative cycle
centred on so-called stories of descendence.
The fact is that Estonians are an agrarian nation who has never
had an upper class.
http://engforum.pravda.ru/index.php?/topic/91557-former-estonian-president-lennart-meri-dies-at-76/ /euronews
The Estonian leader's education abroad and his fluency in foreign languages were viewed with great suspicion by Soviet authorities, but his background stood him in good stead for the post-Communist era.
The Communist repression of his family left a deep wound, and it is perhaps not surprising that, as foreign minister in 1991, a quiet fury gripped him when he spotted a red flag fluttering in Tallinn and insisted it be taken down.
A translator of French literature, he formed a particularly warm relationshipwith that country, while pursuing strategic ties with Washington.
He had a reputation as a humorous eccentric, once holding a press conference in a toilet at Tallinn airport.
He was behind the planting of a million trees to celebrate Estonia's accession to NATO and the European Union - a project he had nurtured.
Writer, dramatist, historian, politican - for many, Meri was a Renaissance man
h
http://www.utsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060408/news_1m8meri.html
Mr. Meri was widely credited for remaining tough with Russian President Boris Yeltsin in negotiations on the withdrawal of Russian troops from Estonia in 1994.
Among ordinary Estonians, Mr. Meri was a beloved, charismatic father figure, whose dry humor and razor-sharp wit only added to his charm. Government officials, however, were often wary of him because of his scathing attacks on unethical practices and corrupt civil servants.
Internationally, he was a respected statesman who had close ties with several world leaders, including former President Clinton and the late Pope John Paul II.
In 1940, the elder Meri was named Estonia's first ambassador to the United States, and the family prepared to move to Washington. But the Soviet Union annexed the Baltic republics, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, and in 1941, the Meris were deported to Siberia. With his father in a labor camp, Lennart, then 12, supported the family by working as a lumberman and as a potato peeler in a Red Army factory.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/15/international/europe/15meri.html?_r=0&pagewanted=print
Mr. Meri served two terms as president, from 1992 to 2001. An ardent nationalist who advocated free-market policies, he was one of a small handful of leaders of newly independent former Soviet republics who had no serious Communist past.
Originally trained as a historian, Mr. Meri was for decades one of Estonia's most prominent public intellectuals, an authority on the history, languages and cultures of the Finno-Ugric peoples of northeastern Europe and Siberia. From 1990 to 1992, he served as foreign minister, and for a brief period in 1992 was ambassador to Finland.
Mr. Meri negotiated a treaty with President Boris N. Yeltsin of Russia securing the withdrawal of the last Russian troops from Estonia. In return, Mr. Meri agreed to grant residence permits to Russian military pensioners living in Estonia, a move that angered many hard-line Estonian nationalists.
Mr. Meri's first marriage to Regina Ojavere ended in divorce. He is survived by his second wife, the former Helle Pihlak, an actress; two sons, Mart and Kristjan; a daughter, Tuule; and four grandchildren,
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/376031/Lennart-Meri
In 1988 Meri founded the Estonian Institute, which promoted Estonian culture through contacts with Western countries.
He then ran for president as the head of Isamaa (Fatherland), a nationalist coalition party dedicated to preserving Estonian culture. No candidate received a majority of the votes, and Meri placed second. The parliament, however, was dominated by parties aligned with Isamaa, and it elected him president on October 5, 1992.
In 1993 he refused to ratify a law requiring Russians who wished to continue living in Estonia to apply for residence permits and to pass an Estonian language test,
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?r103:E29JY4-57
26 July 2014 23:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
About topic and history
http://www.ajaloomuuseum.ee/huvasticharlie/index.php?id=10749
President Lennart Meri wondered ironically in 1995: “Was not the esteemed prophet from over the sea mistaken, when he thought that the end Communism had inaugurated the ‘end of history’? Is it not more obvious now than ever that history, instead of disappearing, has suddenly become even too abundant and much more complex, and that the dream about a new “world order” was more unrealistic than ever and that the political order of the world has become more unpredictable and more dangerous than before?”
http://www.balticsworldwide.com/news/features/meri__portrait.htm
Domestically, he has come to be seen as a kind philosopher king, valued for his ability in times of crisis to express the nation’s hopes and anxieties with an almost poetic touch.
In a nationally televised speech on Estonia’s Independence Day this year, the president blasted politicians who have become rich while in office. “This is scum on the surface of the state cauldron, scum that we will gather with a ladle and throw into the slop pail,” Meri said. “We will do it until there is no more scum left to gather.”
Before the Soviet takeover in 1940, the young Lennart Meri was already learning French and German at primary schools in Berlin and Paris, where his father served as a ranking Estonian diplomat. Hes father was minister to Germany from 1935 to 1938.
Now pushing 70, Meri’s hunger for knowledge is still so great that he can often be found at his desk reading a newspaper, surfing the Net and rifling through the radio dial—virtually all at the same time.
When he flies on a plane, aides say Meri frequently heads for a chair in the cockpit, quizzing pilots for hours on end about which button does what.
It’s not only that he gathers information: he remembers it.
“He’s like a walking encyclopedia,” said Mihkel Mutt, an Estonian novelist and once Meri’s press secretary, shaking his head in wonder. “His memory is really amazing.”
Aides recall Meri spellbinding assorted VIPs by skillfully dropping intricate details about almost any subject broached in conversation, on everything from French history to burial rituals of nomads in Outer Mongolia.
“He always had at least one amazing detail up his sleeve. It became hard to believe he could know such details, but he did.”
Among those reportedly won over was U.S. Vice President Al Gore, who spend a day with Meri during a visit to Tallinn several years ago. Not coincidentally perhaps, Gore is now considered one of the most ardent Baltic supporters at the White House.
In manner, and in breadth of culture, he is a European gentleman of the old school....In a Baltic panorama in which former Communists and members of the new right often vie with each other in the crude and provincial narrowness of their attitudes, Meri represents a nobler past...though this sometimes leads him to patronize ordinary Estonians.”
Moscow in 1994 were reportedly so lively that by the end of the marathon discussions shattered glass littered the floor beneath their negotiating table. (Meri refused to confirm the reports."I was too busy looking into Yeltsin’s eyes to notice what was under the table,” he said.)
http://www.diplomaatia.ee/en/article/there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-hopeless-situation/
"There is no such thing as a hopeless situation."
After 1941, the history of the independent state of Estonia was considered to be over - only people like Lennart Meri went on believing that independence could have been preserved and was possible to restore.
Who would have thought that the Soviet Union would break up as Yeltsin pushed Gorbachev aside - only the people in the Baltic countries did
I made a trip to Estonia in the summer of 1939
http://www2.gwu.edu/~ccps/etzioni/A238.html
"Rethinking Peacekeeping, Beyond Intervention to Mediation" The Washington Quarterly
The issue of a full withdrawal from Estonia was raised in communications between President Clinton and President Yeltsin. During the summit of the Group of Seven (G 7) in July 1994, President Clinton hand delivered a letter from Estonian president Lennart Meri to Yeltsin. The letter requested a personal meeting between the Russian and the Estonian leaders. On July 15, the U.S. Senate voted to make all aid to Russia contingent on a full withdrawal from Estonia.
http://www.the-american-interest.com/articles/2012/08/10/turn-your-radio-on/
In Poland Solidarity leader Lech Wa??sa, and in Russia President Boris Yeltsin, credited U.S. broadcasting for helping to end Communism. In 1991, Estonian President Lennart Meri nominated Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty for the Nobel Peace prize.
In 2006 former RFE/RL journalist Tom,Toomas Ilves became President of Estonia. U.S. broadcasting had become synonymous across the region with freedom and democracy, integrity and credibility.
http://www.ajaloomuuseum.ee/huvasticharlie/index.php?id=10749
President Lennart Meri wondered ironically in 1995: “Was not the esteemed prophet from over the sea mistaken, when he thought that the end Communism had inaugurated the ‘end of history’? Is it not more obvious now than ever that history, instead of disappearing, has suddenly become even too abundant and much more complex, and that the dream about a new “world order” was more unrealistic than ever and that the political order of the world has become more unpredictable and more dangerous than before?”
http://www.balticsworldwide.com/news/features/meri__portrait.htm
Domestically, he has come to be seen as a kind philosopher king, valued for his ability in times of crisis to express the nation’s hopes and anxieties with an almost poetic touch.
In a nationally televised speech on Estonia’s Independence Day this year, the president blasted politicians who have become rich while in office. “This is scum on the surface of the state cauldron, scum that we will gather with a ladle and throw into the slop pail,” Meri said. “We will do it until there is no more scum left to gather.”
Before the Soviet takeover in 1940, the young Lennart Meri was already learning French and German at primary schools in Berlin and Paris, where his father served as a ranking Estonian diplomat. Hes father was minister to Germany from 1935 to 1938.
Now pushing 70, Meri’s hunger for knowledge is still so great that he can often be found at his desk reading a newspaper, surfing the Net and rifling through the radio dial—virtually all at the same time.
When he flies on a plane, aides say Meri frequently heads for a chair in the cockpit, quizzing pilots for hours on end about which button does what.
It’s not only that he gathers information: he remembers it.
“He’s like a walking encyclopedia,” said Mihkel Mutt, an Estonian novelist and once Meri’s press secretary, shaking his head in wonder. “His memory is really amazing.”
Aides recall Meri spellbinding assorted VIPs by skillfully dropping intricate details about almost any subject broached in conversation, on everything from French history to burial rituals of nomads in Outer Mongolia.
“He always had at least one amazing detail up his sleeve. It became hard to believe he could know such details, but he did.”
Among those reportedly won over was U.S. Vice President Al Gore, who spend a day with Meri during a visit to Tallinn several years ago. Not coincidentally perhaps, Gore is now considered one of the most ardent Baltic supporters at the White House.
In manner, and in breadth of culture, he is a European gentleman of the old school....In a Baltic panorama in which former Communists and members of the new right often vie with each other in the crude and provincial narrowness of their attitudes, Meri represents a nobler past...though this sometimes leads him to patronize ordinary Estonians.”
Moscow in 1994 were reportedly so lively that by the end of the marathon discussions shattered glass littered the floor beneath their negotiating table. (Meri refused to confirm the reports."I was too busy looking into Yeltsin’s eyes to notice what was under the table,” he said.)
http://www.diplomaatia.ee/en/article/there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-hopeless-situation/
"There is no such thing as a hopeless situation."
After 1941, the history of the independent state of Estonia was considered to be over - only people like Lennart Meri went on believing that independence could have been preserved and was possible to restore.
Who would have thought that the Soviet Union would break up as Yeltsin pushed Gorbachev aside - only the people in the Baltic countries did
I made a trip to Estonia in the summer of 1939
http://www2.gwu.edu/~ccps/etzioni/A238.html
"Rethinking Peacekeeping, Beyond Intervention to Mediation" The Washington Quarterly
The issue of a full withdrawal from Estonia was raised in communications between President Clinton and President Yeltsin. During the summit of the Group of Seven (G 7) in July 1994, President Clinton hand delivered a letter from Estonian president Lennart Meri to Yeltsin. The letter requested a personal meeting between the Russian and the Estonian leaders. On July 15, the U.S. Senate voted to make all aid to Russia contingent on a full withdrawal from Estonia.
http://www.the-american-interest.com/articles/2012/08/10/turn-your-radio-on/
In Poland Solidarity leader Lech Wa??sa, and in Russia President Boris Yeltsin, credited U.S. broadcasting for helping to end Communism. In 1991, Estonian President Lennart Meri nominated Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty for the Nobel Peace prize.
In 2006 former RFE/RL journalist Tom,Toomas Ilves became President of Estonia. U.S. broadcasting had become synonymous across the region with freedom and democracy, integrity and credibility.
http://www.ajaloomuuseum.ee/huvasticharlie/index.php?id=10749
26 July 2014 23:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Little bit related:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/06/AR2007050600924.html
http://larussophobe.wordpress.com/2007/05/09/annals-of-the-russian-dark-ages-estonia-in-context-part-ii/
In 1994, Boris Yeltsin and the polymath Lennart Meri, chummily drank together in a Kremlin chamber as their foreign ministers labored nearby to complete a historic treaty to withdraw all Russian troops from the tiny Baltic state.
When it was time to celebrate the finished draft, Yeltsin mocked his own foreign minister, Andrei Kozyrev, for his weak drinking skills -- "Bring the boy some ice cream," he roared to an attendant -- but approved the agreement.
The trouble is that Russia has never acknowledged this history, and under Putin it grows less and less willing to do so. The passing of the Soviet Union is mourned, the old KGB is celebrated.
Virtually every neighbor -- Georgia, Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, even Finland -- has been subjected to bullying.
Yeltsin, for all his drinking and Siberian gruffness, had at least glimmers of understanding that Russia could become a greater country by withdrawing unwanted troops than by imposing them.
Example:
http://www.thecopydude.com/the-eu-and-ethnic-cleansing-in-estonia/comment-page-1/
http://palun.blogspot.com/2007/05/demographics-and-estonia-overview.html
"In 1944, The Red Army failed to liberate those who remained"
About fascist monuments - estonians did and do not give a flying f*ck, if I may say so, neither about communism nor fascism/extreme nationalism. Estonia was almost like Finland, but it stood between two clashing giants (Stalins Russia and Hitlers Germany).
Now, people preferr to stay alive, even when they do not share political or demographic ideals with neither side.
Estonia didn’t choose Hitler nor Stalin, nazism nor stalinism. Country and it’s people choose to survive.
http://www.fark.com/comments/2757087/Twenty-years-after-his-liver-rest-of-Boris-Yeltsin-dies
The story is that our first Estonian president, Lennart Meri, got him plowed, and then had him sign documents officially giving our country freedom from the Soviet Union.
And in a nightmare of Czars to Putty Poot in Russia's history, I think Yeltsin in the long run is going to come out looking pretty good.
By the time Vladimir Putin succeeded Yeltsin as Russia's President in 2000, a group of two dozen commodity tycoons controlled 40 per cent of the country's gross domestic product (GDP) and dictated government policy.
When they tried to oust Gorbachev, he was standing right there on the balcony of the Russian White House with a rifle in his hand; hard to see Bush doing the same under any circumstances.
http://the-difference-between.com/front/soviet
Front: The foremost side of something or the end that faces the direction it normally moves.
Soviet: is pertaining to or resembling a soviet governing council in the former Soviet Union.
There are 3 kinds of Russian speakers in Estonia: a Those that have taken out Estonian Citizenship, b Those that took out Russian citizenship and are therefore loyal to Russia, c those that have not taken either citizenship and are still very soviet in mindstate.
Eest i - front, frontier : )
--------
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread78342/pg5
In 1994, Lennart Meri met Boris Yeltsin in Moscow and they agreed to secure Soviet nuclear reactor submarine compartments in the former 93rd training unit of the Soviet Navy in the Estonian town of Paldiski, near capital.
“This mixture and the technology of its usage were worked out based on the experience we gained in 1991 during concrete grouting in the spaces between the tanks of the Lepse. A similar mixture was used in Paldiski,” Chernogorov said. Two surface prototypes of reactor compartments of first and second generation nuclear submarines with functioning nuclear energetic installations were secured and laid up using the concrete mixture.
In short, maybe the answer to the mystery could be revealed not by asking why they covered the wreck in concrete, but in asking what type of concrete mix was used, and who supervised the $350 million dollar operation.
Even though Swedish journalists found out (and confirmed) that there were secret transports of (non-Swedish) weapons from Estonia to Sweden (on the ferry Estonia!) on the 14 and 20 September 1994
Immediately before Estonia left Tallinn on its final voyage, Carl Övberg, a survivor and frequent passenger who had arrived at the last minute, reported that the harbor had been sealed off and that a military convoy had escorted two large trucks to the waiting ferry. As soon as the trucks were loaded, the ship's car ramp and bow visor were closed and the delayed ferry sailed for Stockholm.
Instead of retrieving the bodies, the government of Sweden hired a Dutch marine salvage firm, Smit Tak BV, that specializes in neutralizing underwater nuclear waste, spending $350 million in a failed attempt to cover the ship in concrete.
Radio communication between the Swedish icebreaker "Ale" and the german ship "Fair Play" in August 1997. The german ship wanted to dive to the wreck of Estonia, and the swedes wouldn't let them. This was in international waters!
2 December 1993 - Estonian and Russian delegations sign a protocol requesting Swedish assistance in decommissioning the Paldiski nuclear reactors
30 July 1994 - Russia and Estonia sign the Paldiski Nuclear Base agreement
30 September 1995 - Decommissioning of the Paldiski nuclear base is completed
To help depoliticise the Paldiski negotiations the Swedish government initiated the Paldiski International Expert Advisory Group with experts from Sweden, Germany, the US and other countries.
The environmental damage in the Baltic States from the fifty-year presence of Soviet troops is estimated to run into the tens of billions of dollars. The US government donated 2 million USD dollars for environmental work at Paldiski. The Paldiski site is currently being managed by state company AS Alara.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/06/AR2007050600924.html
http://larussophobe.wordpress.com/2007/05/09/annals-of-the-russian-dark-ages-estonia-in-context-part-ii/
In 1994, Boris Yeltsin and the polymath Lennart Meri, chummily drank together in a Kremlin chamber as their foreign ministers labored nearby to complete a historic treaty to withdraw all Russian troops from the tiny Baltic state.
When it was time to celebrate the finished draft, Yeltsin mocked his own foreign minister, Andrei Kozyrev, for his weak drinking skills -- "Bring the boy some ice cream," he roared to an attendant -- but approved the agreement.
The trouble is that Russia has never acknowledged this history, and under Putin it grows less and less willing to do so. The passing of the Soviet Union is mourned, the old KGB is celebrated.
Virtually every neighbor -- Georgia, Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, even Finland -- has been subjected to bullying.
Yeltsin, for all his drinking and Siberian gruffness, had at least glimmers of understanding that Russia could become a greater country by withdrawing unwanted troops than by imposing them.
Example:
http://www.thecopydude.com/the-eu-and-ethnic-cleansing-in-estonia/comment-page-1/
http://palun.blogspot.com/2007/05/demographics-and-estonia-overview.html
"In 1944, The Red Army failed to liberate those who remained"
About fascist monuments - estonians did and do not give a flying f*ck, if I may say so, neither about communism nor fascism/extreme nationalism. Estonia was almost like Finland, but it stood between two clashing giants (Stalins Russia and Hitlers Germany).
Now, people preferr to stay alive, even when they do not share political or demographic ideals with neither side.
Estonia didn’t choose Hitler nor Stalin, nazism nor stalinism. Country and it’s people choose to survive.
http://www.fark.com/comments/2757087/Twenty-years-after-his-liver-rest-of-Boris-Yeltsin-dies
The story is that our first Estonian president, Lennart Meri, got him plowed, and then had him sign documents officially giving our country freedom from the Soviet Union.
And in a nightmare of Czars to Putty Poot in Russia's history, I think Yeltsin in the long run is going to come out looking pretty good.
By the time Vladimir Putin succeeded Yeltsin as Russia's President in 2000, a group of two dozen commodity tycoons controlled 40 per cent of the country's gross domestic product (GDP) and dictated government policy.
When they tried to oust Gorbachev, he was standing right there on the balcony of the Russian White House with a rifle in his hand; hard to see Bush doing the same under any circumstances.
http://the-difference-between.com/front/soviet
Front: The foremost side of something or the end that faces the direction it normally moves.
Soviet: is pertaining to or resembling a soviet governing council in the former Soviet Union.
There are 3 kinds of Russian speakers in Estonia: a Those that have taken out Estonian Citizenship, b Those that took out Russian citizenship and are therefore loyal to Russia, c those that have not taken either citizenship and are still very soviet in mindstate.
Eest i - front, frontier : )
--------
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread78342/pg5
In 1994, Lennart Meri met Boris Yeltsin in Moscow and they agreed to secure Soviet nuclear reactor submarine compartments in the former 93rd training unit of the Soviet Navy in the Estonian town of Paldiski, near capital.
“This mixture and the technology of its usage were worked out based on the experience we gained in 1991 during concrete grouting in the spaces between the tanks of the Lepse. A similar mixture was used in Paldiski,” Chernogorov said. Two surface prototypes of reactor compartments of first and second generation nuclear submarines with functioning nuclear energetic installations were secured and laid up using the concrete mixture.
In short, maybe the answer to the mystery could be revealed not by asking why they covered the wreck in concrete, but in asking what type of concrete mix was used, and who supervised the $350 million dollar operation.
Even though Swedish journalists found out (and confirmed) that there were secret transports of (non-Swedish) weapons from Estonia to Sweden (on the ferry Estonia!) on the 14 and 20 September 1994
Immediately before Estonia left Tallinn on its final voyage, Carl Övberg, a survivor and frequent passenger who had arrived at the last minute, reported that the harbor had been sealed off and that a military convoy had escorted two large trucks to the waiting ferry. As soon as the trucks were loaded, the ship's car ramp and bow visor were closed and the delayed ferry sailed for Stockholm.
Instead of retrieving the bodies, the government of Sweden hired a Dutch marine salvage firm, Smit Tak BV, that specializes in neutralizing underwater nuclear waste, spending $350 million in a failed attempt to cover the ship in concrete.
Radio communication between the Swedish icebreaker "Ale" and the german ship "Fair Play" in August 1997. The german ship wanted to dive to the wreck of Estonia, and the swedes wouldn't let them. This was in international waters!
2 December 1993 - Estonian and Russian delegations sign a protocol requesting Swedish assistance in decommissioning the Paldiski nuclear reactors
30 July 1994 - Russia and Estonia sign the Paldiski Nuclear Base agreement
30 September 1995 - Decommissioning of the Paldiski nuclear base is completed
To help depoliticise the Paldiski negotiations the Swedish government initiated the Paldiski International Expert Advisory Group with experts from Sweden, Germany, the US and other countries.
The environmental damage in the Baltic States from the fifty-year presence of Soviet troops is estimated to run into the tens of billions of dollars. The US government donated 2 million USD dollars for environmental work at Paldiski. The Paldiski site is currently being managed by state company AS Alara.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/06/AR2007050600924.html
26 July 2014 23:08
Margus Meigo commented on Emil Rutiku's post.
Group: Uute Poliitikute Kool
muidu jah nii aga inimestel väga vaja ika ise toiduga suhelda ja ühenduses olla, seda puutuda... et ta meile ennast selliselt kasvataks mis meile vaja
kui inimesed kontori asemel suures osas toidupõllul toimetaks siis oleksime rõõmsamad usun, tundub26 July 2014 22:29
Margus Meigo commented on Pete Meel's post.
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ei ää seda viimast küll soovita, see küll tigeda iroonjaga kuid isegi seda keeleliselt pole vaja.. keel toimib sedasi....26 July 2014 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on Estonia's link.
Its not about being "crude and rough" its about being real, If we are real with Russia or as with most of us who like intelligence, then you will have more respect for you to.
"to be polite" is not an direction when there is options to choose between direct truth in short time and to be polite as one assumes other side is not able to talk from heart.
"to be polite" is not an direction when there is options to choose between direct truth in short time and to be polite as one assumes other side is not able to talk from heart.
26 July 2014 18:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kas sul on olnud viimastel päevadel unenägusi kus sugupoolte vahel hämarad jooned ?
26 July 2014 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
:D
26 July 2014 14:53
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
can we?
26 July 2014 14:53
Margus Meigo commented on Emil Rutiku's post.
Group: Uute Poliitikute Kool
Kuid Sul õigus, ise usun ka, et tehnoloogia saaks meid aidata, et saaksime päris asjadega tegeleda mida vajame,
inimestel pole vaja teha roboti tööd... kuigi meil endal (piisavalt suurel hulgal) oleks vaja aru saada mis roboti tööle paneb vast..26 July 2014 10:50
Margus Meigo commented on Emil Rutiku's post.
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üks trikk mis mulle tundub, on inimesi tehnoloogiasse kutsuda kui oma vabastajasse, et saaks suure hulga inimesi patareideks keerata, sest nad juba matemaatiliselt teavad palju mis eelmiste liikidega juhtunud on kes automatiseeritud... kui on olemas olnud enne meid, mujal liike... kellesse tutvustati mehaniseerimine...
Siis orjasüsteem saab ideaalsemaks sest väga kõrge tehnika tipp tuleb halogramm prillide ja mõtte jõul sms ide saatmise näeol ...
kuid kui paljud nende kasutajatest oskavad ise neid tooteid teha ja hooldada ja aru saada mis põhimõttel need töötavad
me peaks aru saama, et tehnoloogia ammu olemas kõik mida unistada suudame, lihtsalt inimeste jaoks pole vast veel kohandatud
mul isa rääkis, et vanasti neil terve 8s klass oskas elementaarse raadio valmis teha ja loodusest elektrit genereerida, selle töös hoidmiseks...
kuna AM välja lülitatakse... siis kas üldse digi ajastus ongi võimalik ühelgil koolipoisil ise teada lihtsasti kuidas raadiolaineid püüda?
Ning kõige olulisem... maagilised seened, kanep, peyotte katkus, ja paljud muud ühed olulisemad taimed siin planeedil... neid hoitakse meist eemal,
sest piisab ainult ühest kohtumisest mõndade nende olenditega kes meile näidata saavad kuidas ja miks me siin endale vanglat aitame ehitada, et inimene lõpetaks oma tegevuse.. (kuid inimesed ise kontrollivad ennast inimeste kaudu... eriti kui keegi hakkab olema erinev, veel selles suunas ka mida õpetatud imelik olema)26 July 2014 10:43
Margus Meigo commented on Emil Rutiku's post.
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nu jah, viisnurga küüsis on nii ärikad kui antifa, nii looduses elavad nõia naised kui poliitikud, (vb isegi Fresco) need tähe inimesed kes meid juhtida saavad nii mitmel moel, otseselt ja kaudselt, ... (ajan kõik ühte patta, kes iganes kõige üleval kibestunuld teadlikult teisi enda kasuks loodusvõimu, naise vastu juhib..)
Ma nähes osasi asju, mis võib olla ei saa kuidagi süüdistada liialt palju oma maa poliitikuid kui rahva käes on praegu tegelt veel poliitikute üle võim kuid rahavas ise ei reguleeri, rahavas ongi valitsus,
ja rahavast ka ei saa süüdistada sest kuigi neil VÄGA palju lihtsam olla normaalne hea inimene kui poliitikul või avalikuelu tegelastel ... siis seni kuni nad ei ole maitsnud pannkooki nad ju ka ei saa selle maitset teada. Ning kuna me kõik oleme usu inimesedm, inimesed ju usuvad mida nad teavad.
Kuid osad veel selles faasis, et ainult seda mida teab olevat kedagi käega katsunud usub (sest usub toda kes ütles, et aint seda uskuda tasub mida tead, ning kuna see kõlab tõena ise enda seest, siis nii ongi... meile tundub)
Lisaks veel tavapärane arusaam "kui keegi nii võimas on miks ta siis MEIE juurde ei tule.." Meie mEIE MEIE... Mina
Siin on aga olemas Nii palju rohkem kui Meie ja Meie tuttavad aint.26 July 2014 10:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
just to make it clear: the religious inventor guy was good
...
(right?)
...
(right?)
26 July 2014 10:24
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's post.
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Well good message there was Arthur, Specially the birds and bees part26 July 2014 10:21
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
you really like that video, do you
26 July 2014 10:12
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
i think Karl is Dead, he aint dancing
26 July 2014 10:09
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
but its worth to post again!
26 July 2014 10:03
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
on wendyˇsDays weˇwear pink!
26 July 2014 10:02
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
Thank you Columbia pictures
26 July 2014 09:48
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
happens is not much to like about... but this how what is there... for what, and the dog..
takes some time to look it on spiral layers and layers and layers
takes some time to look it on spiral layers and layers and layers
26 July 2014 09:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfJA61CkH5Q&list=UUBUVGPsJzc1U8SECMgBaMFw&index=36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfJA61CkH5Q&list=UUBUVGPsJzc1U8SECMgBaMFw&index=36
26 July 2014 04:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Living with this species...
http://mentalfloss.com/article/50986/terrifying-katzenklavier-organ-made-cats
http://mentalfloss.com/article/50986/terrifying-katzenklavier-organ-made-cats
http://mentalfloss.com/article/50986/terrifying-katzenklavier-organ-made-cats
26 July 2014 04:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Siin tegelt proovivad nad teha sama oma emasele tegelt,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DobxqhczJyQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DobxqhczJyQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DobxqhczJyQ
26 July 2014 03:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Valusam juhus.. mitte nõrganärvilistele..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P7Q1ncgcoY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P7Q1ncgcoY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P7Q1ncgcoY
26 July 2014 03:39
Margus Meigo commented on Emil Rutiku's post.
Group: Uute Poliitikute Kool
ahjaa, ja siis sunnitakse naine ka veel palga tõõle, (trikitatakse)
väga haige.
Selline ühiskonna kord nagu tundub normaalne, et kus mees rabaleb 5-10 tundi vahest päevas kohas kus ta "peab" olema ja siis ikka pole veel piisavalt, et kolme last vabalt naeratusega saaks naine ülesse kasvatada... nagu ... siin pole isegi midagi kometeerida...26 July 2014 02:17
Margus Meigo commented on Emil Rutiku's post.
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Miks ma pean sama juttu igas gruppis üle interneti algusest peale rääkima, kunagi ammu alustasin oma emaga ja jooma kaaslaste ning anarhistidega, nüüd haritud inimestele..
Nii: Religioon on hea, piibel on parimaid tehnoloogiaid mida meil siin vaja on selgeks, et saada praegusest olukorrast vabaks, arenemise suunas, Religioon on meie liigi säilitamise eest kirjeldamatude jõududega võidelnud tuhandeid aastaid, väga mitmed kirikud ja ristisõdalased jne pole Kristliku ega ühegi jumala poolse usu esidajad vaid selle vigastada proovjad ja valesti mõistjad (eriti ristisõdalased kes olid eesotsas Normannid, kes nende kuue sisse pugesid...) ...
Seda lihtsamaks teha: ei ole võimalik olla päriselt tark inimene siin planeedil ja mõelda, et piibel on vähem kui väga hea, halenaljakad kommunismi propakeeriad.
Meil on siin korporatsioonid, sõjaväed, homoväed (selle kirjutasin meelega ärritamiseks), dibiliseerinud meedia, pidurdav koolisüsteem, algeline meditsiin, ning kõige olulisem alaarenenud suhted ja me asume süüdistama eniselt neid kes kõige selle paremaks arendamisega tegeleb (ilma oma kasuta, usaldusväärselt, sest nad ju armastuses)
sest see sama meedia mida me ei usu, ütleb meile, et näe... religiooni hullud siin ja sääl.
Ja siis nagu lambad mäeme kaasa,
Kuidagi üldse see Sinu suunas selles osas ei käi Kristo Poljakov kuna sa ikkagi spiritualismis mille kaitsmise kese on religioonid.
Lihtsalt tuleb seda aru saada siin pole mõtet isegi debattima hakata, debatiti mitu tuhat aastat tagasi ära ja pandi kirja meile juba, et me ei peaks aega raiskama vaid saaksime tegeleda sellega millega peaks, süva spirituaalismiga ja oma liigile kasulikuse tootmisega igas asjas mis teeme,
kui midagi endale teeme mõeldes "suva" teiste suhtes, siis ma pole pointile pihta saanud, kui ennast aga võlts headusega ära kurnata laseme teiste ees lömitades siis pole ka aru saanud ega tundma veel hakanud.
Tahaks varsti oma elu aja jooksul juba targemas maailmas olla kus kõik kes religioonis kahtlevad veel peale põhikooli haridust viiakse ravile kuskile, sest siis peab ikka midagi väga sügavalt imelikku inimeses olema...
Muidugi tegelt enamus lapsed kohe kõik on usklikud alguses kuid see sama kool panepki neid ajas tagasi ürg aega, kus inimesed ei oska mõtte jõul läbi vaimu ravida mida iganes või kus ajas rändamine ning muu loodusega suhtlemine tundub "far out" kui see tegelikult on elementaarne.
Meil isegi hunnik aineid ja taimi siia toodud nende võimete uuesti sisse lülitamiseks, kuid mis me tegime... keelasime ära hakates nende kohta levitama utooopilisi kuulujutte ja vaspupidist propakandat.
Kujuta ette, et sa proovid inimesele kes hadjatega metsas sex festil oli või kes just mitmekümne aasta pikkuselt rännakult tuli mis ühe päeva sisse mahtus.. või kes hoopis muus reaalses maailmas oli mida saab IGA ÜKS kes inimene järgi lihtsalt proovida, lihtsamad vahendid võtavad vähem kui päeva tõestamiseks (on ka 10ne minutilisi varjante muu maailmaga kohtumiseks kuid ise neid ei soovita...),
tõestamiseks... et see mis teine rääkis pole umbluu, kuid selle asemel, et ÜKS päev ja paar sada eurot investeerida millegisse mis näitab sulle muid arenenud eluvorme, ja meie kasvatajaid... selle asemel asutakse viinapudeli tagant suits hammaste vahel vastu hämama miskit ülikooli joru.
minu jaoks müstiline on kuidas sellist liiki nii kaua ja MILLEKS üldse alles hoitakse... võt see on küsimus millega ülikoolid võiksid tegeleda.
jah, ja mu kirjakeel on vähe oluline selle teksti olulisuse osas mida siin kirjutan.
Loomulikult leian kõige selle masendava juures palju head, saan rääkida pikalt miks ja kuidas veel siiani massi tootev koolisüsteem ja korporatsioonid saavad head olla, miks media on ideaalne ja miks islam ja budism on hea, isegi geyd ja robotid...
kuid enne seda kõike peaksime mõtlema KUIDAs nad on ja ei ole ja siis sinna otsa KUIDAS nad on head usklikust, maakera taimede ja inimliigi säilitamise vaatevinklist, alustuseks... ja siis veel muuud sõprussuhted muude olenditega kellega kokkupuutumiseks ei ole vaja ehitada kolakat halenaljakaid rakette millega auke atmosfääri põletada, et "tarkasi eluforme" otsima minna, ei tea mille järgi tigu aru saab, et iPod tark on või vastupidi... (tegelik vahe muidugi vast palju ekstreemsem meie ja selle vahel mida otsimas käime, mis meil siin samas olmeas ja ... me sees ka, ligipääs..).
Kujuta ette, siis on veel inimesed, kes teevad aastaid asju mis neile ei meeldi, asju mida nad tasuta ei teeks. kujuta ette, teenivad raha... nagu raha teenivad asjade eest mida ise heas meelest ei teeks lihtsalt selleks, et naisele rõõmu valmistada ja siis tulevad hämama kuidas elada on õige.
Nii absurdne.26 July 2014 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on Kaspar Rammo's post.
Group: Uute Poliitikute Kool
ehk hoopis vastupidine25 July 2014 23:24
Margus Meigo commented on Kaspar Rammo's post.
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kas ikka on ?25 July 2014 23:24
Margus Meigo commented on Kaspar Rammo's post.
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loota on, miski peaks ju selle viisnurga ära pühkima...25 July 2014 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on Emil Rutiku's post.
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ma mõtlesin, et neid kahte asja ühendab terve meel, common sense... Headus vms25 July 2014 23:02
Margus Meigo commented on Kaspar Rammo's post.
Group: Uute Poliitikute Kool
venkud ja jänkid suht sama viisnurga all koos hiina ja Euga... unustame korraks ära mis päriselt toimib kuigi endal suurelt rahatähtede peal ja nato sõja tehnikal viisnurgad igalpool ka...25 July 2014 22:56
Margus Meigo commented on Murka Muri Rasmus's post.
Group: Uute Poliitikute Kool
List oleks liialt pikk ja võtaks raamatuid kirjeldamiseks, kuid meie hea riigi ja raadio ringhääling, enamuste inimeste vaimsus, enamuste inimeste tarkus, eesti naiste ilu, vete puhtus, vee puhtus, elu odavus, ha haridus, keskmine rikkus, palgad
kenad ilmad, hea kliima, sõja puudulikus, nakkushaiguste puudus, toidulaua puhtus, toitumise teadlikus, viisakus, loodus lähedus,
kõik on võetud arvesse maailma keskmist, päris top 10nes me kõiges pole, mõnes osas lonkame ka kuid milleskis me pole vist alla poole planeedi rahvast kui rahva enda arv välja jätta25 July 2014 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on Murka Muri Rasmus's post.
Group: Uute Poliitikute Kool
ja kuidas ja miks nad said ploki, kas postitasid porri liialt v?25 July 2014 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on Murka Muri Rasmus's post.
Group: Uute Poliitikute Kool
Võru andres treial v?25 July 2014 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on Murka Muri Rasmus's post.
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ning waatamata sellele kõigele me oleme parim maa kui enamus kokku kus elada
eriti kui veel tunnetada ka,,, et mis maa see on25 July 2014 22:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Töömesilaste elutee tarus käib suvel kindla kava järgi. Tavaliselt vähem kui kaks kuud elav töömesilane on oma elu esimeses poole ametis mesilasema ning vastsete toitmisega.
Elu teisel poolel saavad töömesilased täiesti uue ülesande: õietolmu kogumiseks tuleb hakata tarust välja lendama. Pärast seda muutust on töömesilastel jäänud elupäevi veel umbes kahe nädala jagu, nende ajufunktsioonid on juba selgelt allakäigul.
Seevastu need töömesilased, kes sünnivad enne talve tulekut ega pea vastseid toitma, elavad peaaegu terve aasta.
Norra teadlased Daniel Münchi juhtimisel tegid katseid, muutes talviste mesilaste elukeskkonda. Nii pandi talvemesilased katseliselt elama suvistesse tingimustesse ning oludesse, kus tuli vastsete eest hoolitseda.
Vastsete eest hoolitsema pidanud mesilased täitsid oma ülesandeid ning läksid siis korjelendudele. Kaks nädalat hiljem olid nad surnud.
Mesilased, kellel vastsete eest hoolitsema ei pidanud, elasid kuni kümme nädalat ning nende puhul ei ilmnenud mingit märki õppimisvõime vähenemisest, kuigi tingimused olid suvised.
Teadlased mõõtsid mesilaste õppimisvõimet nelgiõli abil – kas mesilane õppis seostama nelgiõli lõhna magusaga. Talviste mesilaste õppimisvõime püsis kuude kaupa samasugune, seevastu suviste mesilaste puhul oli märgatav kiire allakäik.
Toitmiskohustusega mesilastel oli ajus kõrgem lipofustsiiini tase – see on pigmentaine, mis kuhjub organismis seoses vananemise ja raskete haigustega. Pikaealistel talvemesilastel selle pigmentaine tase ajus ei tõusnud.
See omakorda viitab, et mesilaste puhul on vananemine paindlik protsess, mida on võimalik pidurdada või olulisel määral edasi lükata.
Artikkel ilmus ajakirjas The Journal of Experimental Biology.
http://novaator.ee/ET/loodus/jarglaste_eest_hoolitsemine_karbib_elupaevi/
http://jeb.biologists.org/content/216/9/1638.abstract
"Highly social animals provide alternative aging models in which vastly different lifespan patterns are flexible, and linked to social caste. Research in these species aims to reveal how environment, including social cues, can shape the transition between short-lived and extremely long-lived phenotypes with negligible senescence. Among honey bee workers, short to intermediate lifespans are typical for summer castes, while the winter caste can live up to 10 times longer. For summer castes, experimental interventions could predictably accelerate, slow or revert functional senescence. In contrast, little is known about the partic ular conditions under which periods of negligible senescence in winter castes can be disrupted or sustained. We asked how manipulation of social environment in colonies with long-lived winter bees might alter the pace of functional senescence, measured as learning performance, as well as of cellular senescence, measured as lipofuscin accumulation. We show that behavioral senescence becomes rapidly detectable when the winter state is disrupted, and changes in social task behaviors and social environment (brood) are induced. Likewise, we found that cellular senescence was induced by such social intervention. However, cellular senescence showed marked regional differences, suggesting that particular brain regions age slower than others. Finally, by preventing post-winter colonies from brood rearing, behavioral senescence became undetectable, even after transition to the usually short-lived phenotypes had occurred. We envision that social regulation of negligible functional senescence and highly dynamic accumulation of a universal symptom of cellular aging (lipofuscin) offers rewarding perspectives to target proximate mechanisms of slowed aging. "
Elu teisel poolel saavad töömesilased täiesti uue ülesande: õietolmu kogumiseks tuleb hakata tarust välja lendama. Pärast seda muutust on töömesilastel jäänud elupäevi veel umbes kahe nädala jagu, nende ajufunktsioonid on juba selgelt allakäigul.
Seevastu need töömesilased, kes sünnivad enne talve tulekut ega pea vastseid toitma, elavad peaaegu terve aasta.
Norra teadlased Daniel Münchi juhtimisel tegid katseid, muutes talviste mesilaste elukeskkonda. Nii pandi talvemesilased katseliselt elama suvistesse tingimustesse ning oludesse, kus tuli vastsete eest hoolitseda.
Vastsete eest hoolitsema pidanud mesilased täitsid oma ülesandeid ning läksid siis korjelendudele. Kaks nädalat hiljem olid nad surnud.
Mesilased, kellel vastsete eest hoolitsema ei pidanud, elasid kuni kümme nädalat ning nende puhul ei ilmnenud mingit märki õppimisvõime vähenemisest, kuigi tingimused olid suvised.
Teadlased mõõtsid mesilaste õppimisvõimet nelgiõli abil – kas mesilane õppis seostama nelgiõli lõhna magusaga. Talviste mesilaste õppimisvõime püsis kuude kaupa samasugune, seevastu suviste mesilaste puhul oli märgatav kiire allakäik.
Toitmiskohustusega mesilastel oli ajus kõrgem lipofustsiiini tase – see on pigmentaine, mis kuhjub organismis seoses vananemise ja raskete haigustega. Pikaealistel talvemesilastel selle pigmentaine tase ajus ei tõusnud.
See omakorda viitab, et mesilaste puhul on vananemine paindlik protsess, mida on võimalik pidurdada või olulisel määral edasi lükata.
Artikkel ilmus ajakirjas The Journal of Experimental Biology.
http://novaator.ee/ET/loodus/jarglaste_eest_hoolitsemine_karbib_elupaevi/
http://jeb.biologists.org/content/216/9/1638.abstract
"Highly social animals provide alternative aging models in which vastly different lifespan patterns are flexible, and linked to social caste. Research in these species aims to reveal how environment, including social cues, can shape the transition between short-lived and extremely long-lived phenotypes with negligible senescence. Among honey bee workers, short to intermediate lifespans are typical for summer castes, while the winter caste can live up to 10 times longer. For summer castes, experimental interventions could predictably accelerate, slow or revert functional senescence. In contrast, little is known about the partic ular conditions under which periods of negligible senescence in winter castes can be disrupted or sustained. We asked how manipulation of social environment in colonies with long-lived winter bees might alter the pace of functional senescence, measured as learning performance, as well as of cellular senescence, measured as lipofuscin accumulation. We show that behavioral senescence becomes rapidly detectable when the winter state is disrupted, and changes in social task behaviors and social environment (brood) are induced. Likewise, we found that cellular senescence was induced by such social intervention. However, cellular senescence showed marked regional differences, suggesting that particular brain regions age slower than others. Finally, by preventing post-winter colonies from brood rearing, behavioral senescence became undetectable, even after transition to the usually short-lived phenotypes had occurred. We envision that social regulation of negligible functional senescence and highly dynamic accumulation of a universal symptom of cellular aging (lipofuscin) offers rewarding perspectives to target proximate mechanisms of slowed aging. "
http://novaator.ee/ET/loodus/jarglaste_eest_hoolitsemine_karbib_elupaevi/
25 July 2014 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"Vaata Texase ülikooli videot unistest mesilastest!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOPz7C88LgU
Noh.. eksvarsti uuritakse ka mida nad sääl tantsivad : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOPz7C88LgU
Noh.. eksvarsti uuritakse ka mida nad sääl tantsivad : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOPz7C88LgU
25 July 2014 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
" Korralik töömesilane peab saama öösel kaheksa tundi und.
Kui see pole võimalik, siis ajab unine mesilane segamini mesitarus infovahetuseks nii olulised tantsuliigutused ning lõpptulemusena kannatab terve mesilaspere.
Austinis asuva Texase ülikooli teadlane Barrett Klein uuris, kuidas mõjub meemesilastele, kui neil ei lasta öösel korralikult magada.
Mesilaste omavahelises kommunikatsioonis on oluline roll tantsuliigutustel, mille abil putukad annavad üksteisele teada heade korjekohtade asukohti. Eksperimendis võeti 50 mesilast, kellest pooltele liimiti seljale tibatilluke metallitükk. Öösel aeti metallitükiga mesilasi magneti abil kolm korda minuti jooksul üles, et nad ei saaks normaalselt puhata.
Järgmisel päeval filmiti tarus toimuvat videokaameraga ning ilmnes, et uniste mesilaste tantsuliigutused olid korralikult maganud putukate omadest ebatäpsemad: seal oli rohkem varieeruvust ning seetõttu said teised mesilased korjekohtade kohta ebatäpsemat infot.
“Kui inimene ei ole saanud magada, siis saab ta teatud asjadega mõnevõrra kehvemini hakkama. Ka suhtlemine pole nii täpne,” ütles Klein. “Selgus, et unistel mesilastel tekivad samuti probleemid omavahelises kommunikatsioonis. Nad näitasid teistele mesilastele korjepaiga suunda väiksema täpsusega.”
Äädikakärbeste puhul on une tähtsust uuritud aastaid, see oli esmakordne katse otsida vastust küsimusele, kuidas mõjutavad unised liikmed mesitaru kogukonna toimetulekut.
Artikkel ilmus ajakirjas Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
http://novaator.ee/ET/loodus/unised_mesilased_on_kobad_tantsijad_video/
Kui see pole võimalik, siis ajab unine mesilane segamini mesitarus infovahetuseks nii olulised tantsuliigutused ning lõpptulemusena kannatab terve mesilaspere.
Austinis asuva Texase ülikooli teadlane Barrett Klein uuris, kuidas mõjub meemesilastele, kui neil ei lasta öösel korralikult magada.
Mesilaste omavahelises kommunikatsioonis on oluline roll tantsuliigutustel, mille abil putukad annavad üksteisele teada heade korjekohtade asukohti. Eksperimendis võeti 50 mesilast, kellest pooltele liimiti seljale tibatilluke metallitükk. Öösel aeti metallitükiga mesilasi magneti abil kolm korda minuti jooksul üles, et nad ei saaks normaalselt puhata.
Järgmisel päeval filmiti tarus toimuvat videokaameraga ning ilmnes, et uniste mesilaste tantsuliigutused olid korralikult maganud putukate omadest ebatäpsemad: seal oli rohkem varieeruvust ning seetõttu said teised mesilased korjekohtade kohta ebatäpsemat infot.
“Kui inimene ei ole saanud magada, siis saab ta teatud asjadega mõnevõrra kehvemini hakkama. Ka suhtlemine pole nii täpne,” ütles Klein. “Selgus, et unistel mesilastel tekivad samuti probleemid omavahelises kommunikatsioonis. Nad näitasid teistele mesilastele korjepaiga suunda väiksema täpsusega.”
Äädikakärbeste puhul on une tähtsust uuritud aastaid, see oli esmakordne katse otsida vastust küsimusele, kuidas mõjutavad unised liikmed mesitaru kogukonna toimetulekut.
Artikkel ilmus ajakirjas Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
http://novaator.ee/ET/loodus/unised_mesilased_on_kobad_tantsijad_video/
http://novaator.ee/ET/loodus/unised_mesilased_on_kobad_tantsijad_video/
25 July 2014 01:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
" Oma igapäevaelus pole mesilastel vaja inimeste nägusid ära tunda. Teadlased näitasid aga, et mesilasi on võimalik treenida nägusid eristama.
Austraalia Monashi ülikooli teadlane Adrian Dyer treenis 2005. aastal tehtud katses mesilasi seostama inimese näo pilte maiustustega. Prantsusmaa Toulouse’i ülikooli teadlane Martin Giurfa kahtlustas aga, et mesilased ei õppinud tegelikult nägusid eristama, kirjutas Science Daily.
"Kuna inimese foto peale maandunud mesilane sai auhinnaks tilga siirupit, pidasid nad pilte ilmselt kummalise kujuga lilledeks. Oluline küsimus on, millist strateegiat nad nägude eristamiseks kasutavad,“ selgitas Giurfa.
Et aru saada, kas mesilased ka tõepoolest nägudest aru saavad, võttis Giurfa Dyeriga ühendust ning tegi ettepaneku koos viia läbi rida katseid, mis süstemaatiliselt kontrolliksid, milliste tunnuste põhjal mesilased nägusid eristavad. Uurimistöö tulemused, mis näitasid, et mesilased suudavad tõepoolest aru saada inimese näo olulisemate osade paigutusest, avaldati ajakirjas Journal of Experimental Biology.
Kõigepealt uurisid teadlased, kas mesilased suudavad eristada lihtsaid näosarnaseid kujutisi. Piltidel olnud näod koosnesid vaid kahest täpist silmade asemel, ühest vertikaalsest joonest ninaks ja horisontaalsest suujoonest. Ühel pildil olid need kujundid kokku surutud ja teisel laiali laotatud. Ühele pildile maandumise eest premeeriti mesilasi siirupitilgaga. Seejärel võeti siirup ära ja vaadati, kas mesilane maandub ikkagi õigele näole. Maandus küll.
Seega leiti, et mesilased suudavad eristada näosarnaseid mustreid, kuid kas nad oskaksid ka nägusid liigitada? Kas mesilasi on võimalik treenida eristama näosarnaseid mustreid nägudele mitte sarnanevatest mustritest? Kas mesilases oskaksid pildi, mida nad varem näinud ei ole, ühte neist kategooriatest paigutada?
Nendele küsimustele vastamiseks treenisid teadlased mesilasi viie paari erinevate piltidega, kus üks pilt paarist oli alati nägu ja teine täppidest ja joontest muster. Mesilased said alati siirupit, kui maandusid näole, mustrile maandudes ei saanud nad midagi. Kui mesilased olid selgeks saanud, et näopildi pealt saab suhkrut, näidati neile täiesti uut pildipaari, et näha, kas mesilased suudavad välja valida näopildi.
Selgus, et suudavad küll. Mesilased õppisid selgeks näopilti eristama mitte sellepärast, et nad teaksid, mida nägu endast kujutab, vaid sellepärast, et nad õppisid selgeks nägu moodustavate objektide omavahelise asetuse ja korrapära.
Kas mesilased tuleksid toime ka keerulisemate näopiltidega? Sellele küsimusele vastamiseks paigutasid teadlased joontest ja täppidest koosnevad näod tõelise inimnäoga fotode peale. Kas mesilased suudavad õppida selgeks objektide paigutuse taustal ning tundma ära samu mustreid ka siis, kui taustafoto eemaldatakse? Selgus, et suudavad küll, ning kui teadlased vahetasid päris nägudest tehtud fotodel ära nina, suu ja silmade asukohad, ei suutnud mesilased neis enam nägusid ära tunda ja suhtusid neisse kui juhuslikesse mustritesse.
Seega suudavad mesilased ilmselt ära tunda näosarnaseid mustreid, kuid see ei tähenda otseselt, et nad teeksid erinevatel inimestel näo järgi vahet. Nad õpivad selgeks nägusid moodustavate objektide suhtelise paigutuse ning võivad seda strateegiat rakendada keskkonnas kohatud uute objektide peal.
Teadlaste sõnul on hämmastav, et imepisikese ajuga putukad tulevad toime nii keeruka kujutiste analüüsiga, kui meil on samale ülesandele pühendatud mitmed erinevad ajupiirkonnad. Giurfa arvas, et kui tahetakse luua automaatseid nägude eristamise süsteeme, võiks mesilastelt selle juures olla palju õppida.
http://novaator.ee/ET/loodus/mesilased_suudavad_eristada_inimeste_nagusid/
Austraalia Monashi ülikooli teadlane Adrian Dyer treenis 2005. aastal tehtud katses mesilasi seostama inimese näo pilte maiustustega. Prantsusmaa Toulouse’i ülikooli teadlane Martin Giurfa kahtlustas aga, et mesilased ei õppinud tegelikult nägusid eristama, kirjutas Science Daily.
"Kuna inimese foto peale maandunud mesilane sai auhinnaks tilga siirupit, pidasid nad pilte ilmselt kummalise kujuga lilledeks. Oluline küsimus on, millist strateegiat nad nägude eristamiseks kasutavad,“ selgitas Giurfa.
Et aru saada, kas mesilased ka tõepoolest nägudest aru saavad, võttis Giurfa Dyeriga ühendust ning tegi ettepaneku koos viia läbi rida katseid, mis süstemaatiliselt kontrolliksid, milliste tunnuste põhjal mesilased nägusid eristavad. Uurimistöö tulemused, mis näitasid, et mesilased suudavad tõepoolest aru saada inimese näo olulisemate osade paigutusest, avaldati ajakirjas Journal of Experimental Biology.
Kõigepealt uurisid teadlased, kas mesilased suudavad eristada lihtsaid näosarnaseid kujutisi. Piltidel olnud näod koosnesid vaid kahest täpist silmade asemel, ühest vertikaalsest joonest ninaks ja horisontaalsest suujoonest. Ühel pildil olid need kujundid kokku surutud ja teisel laiali laotatud. Ühele pildile maandumise eest premeeriti mesilasi siirupitilgaga. Seejärel võeti siirup ära ja vaadati, kas mesilane maandub ikkagi õigele näole. Maandus küll.
Seega leiti, et mesilased suudavad eristada näosarnaseid mustreid, kuid kas nad oskaksid ka nägusid liigitada? Kas mesilasi on võimalik treenida eristama näosarnaseid mustreid nägudele mitte sarnanevatest mustritest? Kas mesilases oskaksid pildi, mida nad varem näinud ei ole, ühte neist kategooriatest paigutada?
Nendele küsimustele vastamiseks treenisid teadlased mesilasi viie paari erinevate piltidega, kus üks pilt paarist oli alati nägu ja teine täppidest ja joontest muster. Mesilased said alati siirupit, kui maandusid näole, mustrile maandudes ei saanud nad midagi. Kui mesilased olid selgeks saanud, et näopildi pealt saab suhkrut, näidati neile täiesti uut pildipaari, et näha, kas mesilased suudavad välja valida näopildi.
Selgus, et suudavad küll. Mesilased õppisid selgeks näopilti eristama mitte sellepärast, et nad teaksid, mida nägu endast kujutab, vaid sellepärast, et nad õppisid selgeks nägu moodustavate objektide omavahelise asetuse ja korrapära.
Kas mesilased tuleksid toime ka keerulisemate näopiltidega? Sellele küsimusele vastamiseks paigutasid teadlased joontest ja täppidest koosnevad näod tõelise inimnäoga fotode peale. Kas mesilased suudavad õppida selgeks objektide paigutuse taustal ning tundma ära samu mustreid ka siis, kui taustafoto eemaldatakse? Selgus, et suudavad küll, ning kui teadlased vahetasid päris nägudest tehtud fotodel ära nina, suu ja silmade asukohad, ei suutnud mesilased neis enam nägusid ära tunda ja suhtusid neisse kui juhuslikesse mustritesse.
Seega suudavad mesilased ilmselt ära tunda näosarnaseid mustreid, kuid see ei tähenda otseselt, et nad teeksid erinevatel inimestel näo järgi vahet. Nad õpivad selgeks nägusid moodustavate objektide suhtelise paigutuse ning võivad seda strateegiat rakendada keskkonnas kohatud uute objektide peal.
Teadlaste sõnul on hämmastav, et imepisikese ajuga putukad tulevad toime nii keeruka kujutiste analüüsiga, kui meil on samale ülesandele pühendatud mitmed erinevad ajupiirkonnad. Giurfa arvas, et kui tahetakse luua automaatseid nägude eristamise süsteeme, võiks mesilastelt selle juures olla palju õppida.
http://novaator.ee/ET/loodus/mesilased_suudavad_eristada_inimeste_nagusid/
http://novaator.ee/ET/loodus/mesilased_suudavad_eristada_inimeste_nagusid/
25 July 2014 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"Mesilased suudavad tunda negatiivseid emotsioone, väidab ajakirjas Current Biology ilmunud uurimus.
Murelikud ja depressiivsed inimesed kipuvad kõike mustades värvides nägema. Loomapsühholoogidele on teada, et rasketel aegadel muutuvad pessimistlikuks ka koerad, rotid ja linnud. Selgus, et ka mesilased ilmutasid pärast matkitud rünnaku läbi elamist lootusetuse märke.
"Mesilaste stressijärgne reaktsioon on üllatavalt sarnane inimese omale," selgitas uurimuse üks autoritest Geraldine Wright Newcastle´i ülikoolist." Pärast simuleeritud röövloomarünnakut käitusid kiletiivalised üsna depressioonis inimeste moodi."
Mesilaste tundeelu uurimiseks panid uurijad nad valiku ette: katsealused putukad pidid otsustama, kas tundmatu lõhn tähendab midagi head või halba.
Kõigepealt treenisid bioloogid mesilasi, et need õpiksid üht lõhna seostama tasuks saadava suhkru ja teist kibedamaitselise hiniiniga.
Seejärel jagasid uurijad mesilased kahte rühma. Pooli putukaid raputati tugevalt, et matkida taru ründamist. Teise grupi mesilastel lasti rahus olla. Seejärel anti kõikidele mesilastele tunda nii selgeks õpitud lõhnu kui ka uut tüüpi aroome, mis olid saadud kahe tuttava lõhna segamisel ning samal ajal pakuti neile tundmatut vedelikku.
Imiteeritud rünnaku üle elanud mesilased eeldasid uute lõhnasegude tundmisel tihemini, et neile pakutakse suhkru asemel kibedat hiniini.
"Mesilaste füsioloogias ja käitumises toimuvad stressi kogemisel muutused," selgitas Wright. "Läbiraputatud ja ärevil mesilane on samamoodi endast väljas kui üksildane ketikoer või kinnises puuris vaevlev rott."
Wright ning artikli esimene autor Melissa Bateson rõhutasid, et kindlasti ei tohi väita, et mesilased tunnevad emotsioone täpselt samal moel nagu inimesed.
Samas pole mesilaste käitumine selgrootute loomade hulgas ilmselt harukordne. Uurijate arvates reageerivad kõik loomad, kes peavad ohtudele vastu seismiseks oma käitumist kohandama, stressile üsna sarnaselt.
Bateson ja Wright loodavad, et mesilaste kasutamine mudelloomadena muutub tavaliseks ning kiletiivalised hakkavad emotsioonide uurimises asendama imetajaid.
http://novaator.ee/ET/loodus/kas_on_mesilasel_muret/
(wi pruugi sama uuring olla kuid samal teemal) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3158593/
"Whether animals experience human-like emotions is controversial and of immense societal concern [1–3]. Because animals cannot provide subjective reports of how they feel, emotional state can only be inferred using physiological, cognitive, and behavioral measures [4–8]. In humans, negative feelings are reliably correlated with pessimistic cognitive biases, defined as the increased expectation of bad outcomes [9–11]. Recently, mammals [12–16] and birds [17–20] with poor welfare have also been found to display pessimistic-like decision making, but cognitive biases have not thus far been explored in invertebrates. Here, we ask whether honeybees display a pessimistic cognitive bias when they are subjected to an anxiety-like state induced by vigorous shaking designed to simulate a predatory attack. We show for the first time that agitated bees are more likely to classify ambiguous stimuli as predicting punishment. Shaken bees also have lower levels of hemolymph dopamine, octopamine, and serotonin. In demonstrating state-dependent modulation of categorization in bees, and thereby a cognitive component of emotion, we show that the bees' response to a negatively valenced event has more in common with that of vertebrates than previously thought. This finding reinforces the use of cognitive bias as a measure of negative emotional states across species and suggests that honeybees could be regarded as exhibiting emotions."
http://www.wired.com/2011/06/honeybee-pessimism/
"Honeybees have become the first invertebrates to exhibit pessimism, a benchmark cognitive trait supposedly limited to “higher” animals. "
Selleks on vaja teadlasi, et seda "avastama" hakata,
eks neil vaja enda kallal ka teha veel uuringuid, et vaadata kui palju neilendil emotsioone allesjäänud..
" You can’t be pessimistic if you don’t have an inner life.
‘I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that they are tapping into bee emotions.’
Earlier research has found rats and dogs capable of pessimism. Bateson has also documented pessimism in starlings. But though honeybees have passed tests of pattern recognition and spatial modeling, the idea of feelings occurring in their sesame-seed-sized brains is generally considered unlikely, if not downright laughable. "
Või et ajusuurus oleneb sellest kas saab olla emotsioone... nu on ikka ajud..
Veel samal teemal:
http://www.dvice.com/archives/2011/06/honeybees_may_h.php
http://www.dvice.com/archives/2011/05/study-our-cellp.php (Study: cellphones could be contributing to the death of honey bees)
http://www.dvice.com/archives/2011/04/image-of-the-da-171.php
http://www.beestation.com/theproblem.html ("BEE KEEPERS HAVE REPORTED LOSSES OF 90% SINCE 2006" ...ehk siismitte niipalju aga...)
"One Summer’s day I was listening to the radio - the RSPB had made an announcement responding to the hundreds of calls they were receiving from the public worrying about the number of bees they were finding ‘walking’ in their gardens.
The RSPB said that due to the decline in the UK’s bee population, the bees that are left are having to work much harder. The bees that were being found on the floor were not dying - they were tired.
Val Osborne, Head of RSPB Wildlife Enquiries, states on the RSPB website:
“Busy as a bee is a true saying – bees are working to save the planet and they really do deserve our help.
“We’ve been getting even more calls about bees than ever this year as most people have read that they are in trouble.
“Many people keep seeing bees lying on the ground and assume they are dead but chances are they are having a rest.
“Much like us, a sugary drink could boost their energy levels and a simple sugar and water combination will be a welcome treat.
Simply mixing around two tablespoons of white, granulated sugar with one tablespoon of water, and placing the mix in a small container like an egg cup among bees’ favourite flowers, will provide them with energy at this busy time.f" (Muidugi see eraldi VALGE suhkru soovitamine vast on kahtlane loomulikult...)
KUid inimestel vist suurt muret ei ole, ehitavad siin hooksalt robot mesilaste peresi hoopis...
http://www.dvice.com/archives/2009/10/scientists-to-b.php
Murueide kommentaar:
Inimkond on nii ahne, hoolimatu ja rumal ja sellega saeb oksa, kus ise istub....Olgu kõigile teada, et kuikaovad mesilased ja teised putukad alla kriitilist piiri, siis on ohus kogu taimestik ja neist sõltuv bioloogiline elu planeedil Maa. Kui seda massilist mürgitamist ei lõpetata, siis saab Maast varsi üks elutu ja kurb planeet.
Iga inimene,kellel on kasvõi grammi jagu mõistust peas, peaks mõistma, et ilma mesilasteta ei tolmelda õitsevaid taimi mitte keegi....kui ei tomelda, siis ei saa, ka seemned areneda ja kui seemneid pole, siis liik sureb välja.
Tulge inimesed mõistusele ja lõpetage see kurnav ekstensiivne põllumajandus ja massiline mürkide kasutamine:
Tulge mõistusele, inimesed! MIllise kõleda maailma me kavatseme jätta oma lastele?
Murelikud ja depressiivsed inimesed kipuvad kõike mustades värvides nägema. Loomapsühholoogidele on teada, et rasketel aegadel muutuvad pessimistlikuks ka koerad, rotid ja linnud. Selgus, et ka mesilased ilmutasid pärast matkitud rünnaku läbi elamist lootusetuse märke.
"Mesilaste stressijärgne reaktsioon on üllatavalt sarnane inimese omale," selgitas uurimuse üks autoritest Geraldine Wright Newcastle´i ülikoolist." Pärast simuleeritud röövloomarünnakut käitusid kiletiivalised üsna depressioonis inimeste moodi."
Mesilaste tundeelu uurimiseks panid uurijad nad valiku ette: katsealused putukad pidid otsustama, kas tundmatu lõhn tähendab midagi head või halba.
Kõigepealt treenisid bioloogid mesilasi, et need õpiksid üht lõhna seostama tasuks saadava suhkru ja teist kibedamaitselise hiniiniga.
Seejärel jagasid uurijad mesilased kahte rühma. Pooli putukaid raputati tugevalt, et matkida taru ründamist. Teise grupi mesilastel lasti rahus olla. Seejärel anti kõikidele mesilastele tunda nii selgeks õpitud lõhnu kui ka uut tüüpi aroome, mis olid saadud kahe tuttava lõhna segamisel ning samal ajal pakuti neile tundmatut vedelikku.
Imiteeritud rünnaku üle elanud mesilased eeldasid uute lõhnasegude tundmisel tihemini, et neile pakutakse suhkru asemel kibedat hiniini.
"Mesilaste füsioloogias ja käitumises toimuvad stressi kogemisel muutused," selgitas Wright. "Läbiraputatud ja ärevil mesilane on samamoodi endast väljas kui üksildane ketikoer või kinnises puuris vaevlev rott."
Wright ning artikli esimene autor Melissa Bateson rõhutasid, et kindlasti ei tohi väita, et mesilased tunnevad emotsioone täpselt samal moel nagu inimesed.
Samas pole mesilaste käitumine selgrootute loomade hulgas ilmselt harukordne. Uurijate arvates reageerivad kõik loomad, kes peavad ohtudele vastu seismiseks oma käitumist kohandama, stressile üsna sarnaselt.
Bateson ja Wright loodavad, et mesilaste kasutamine mudelloomadena muutub tavaliseks ning kiletiivalised hakkavad emotsioonide uurimises asendama imetajaid.
http://novaator.ee/ET/loodus/kas_on_mesilasel_muret/
(wi pruugi sama uuring olla kuid samal teemal) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3158593/
"Whether animals experience human-like emotions is controversial and of immense societal concern [1–3]. Because animals cannot provide subjective reports of how they feel, emotional state can only be inferred using physiological, cognitive, and behavioral measures [4–8]. In humans, negative feelings are reliably correlated with pessimistic cognitive biases, defined as the increased expectation of bad outcomes [9–11]. Recently, mammals [12–16] and birds [17–20] with poor welfare have also been found to display pessimistic-like decision making, but cognitive biases have not thus far been explored in invertebrates. Here, we ask whether honeybees display a pessimistic cognitive bias when they are subjected to an anxiety-like state induced by vigorous shaking designed to simulate a predatory attack. We show for the first time that agitated bees are more likely to classify ambiguous stimuli as predicting punishment. Shaken bees also have lower levels of hemolymph dopamine, octopamine, and serotonin. In demonstrating state-dependent modulation of categorization in bees, and thereby a cognitive component of emotion, we show that the bees' response to a negatively valenced event has more in common with that of vertebrates than previously thought. This finding reinforces the use of cognitive bias as a measure of negative emotional states across species and suggests that honeybees could be regarded as exhibiting emotions."
http://www.wired.com/2011/06/honeybee-pessimism/
"Honeybees have become the first invertebrates to exhibit pessimism, a benchmark cognitive trait supposedly limited to “higher” animals. "
Selleks on vaja teadlasi, et seda "avastama" hakata,
eks neil vaja enda kallal ka teha veel uuringuid, et vaadata kui palju neilendil emotsioone allesjäänud..
" You can’t be pessimistic if you don’t have an inner life.
‘I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that they are tapping into bee emotions.’
Earlier research has found rats and dogs capable of pessimism. Bateson has also documented pessimism in starlings. But though honeybees have passed tests of pattern recognition and spatial modeling, the idea of feelings occurring in their sesame-seed-sized brains is generally considered unlikely, if not downright laughable. "
Või et ajusuurus oleneb sellest kas saab olla emotsioone... nu on ikka ajud..
Veel samal teemal:
http://www.dvice.com/archives/2011/06/honeybees_may_h.php
http://www.dvice.com/archives/2011/05/study-our-cellp.php (Study: cellphones could be contributing to the death of honey bees)
http://www.dvice.com/archives/2011/04/image-of-the-da-171.php
http://www.beestation.com/theproblem.html ("BEE KEEPERS HAVE REPORTED LOSSES OF 90% SINCE 2006" ...ehk siismitte niipalju aga...)
"One Summer’s day I was listening to the radio - the RSPB had made an announcement responding to the hundreds of calls they were receiving from the public worrying about the number of bees they were finding ‘walking’ in their gardens.
The RSPB said that due to the decline in the UK’s bee population, the bees that are left are having to work much harder. The bees that were being found on the floor were not dying - they were tired.
Val Osborne, Head of RSPB Wildlife Enquiries, states on the RSPB website:
“Busy as a bee is a true saying – bees are working to save the planet and they really do deserve our help.
“We’ve been getting even more calls about bees than ever this year as most people have read that they are in trouble.
“Many people keep seeing bees lying on the ground and assume they are dead but chances are they are having a rest.
“Much like us, a sugary drink could boost their energy levels and a simple sugar and water combination will be a welcome treat.
Simply mixing around two tablespoons of white, granulated sugar with one tablespoon of water, and placing the mix in a small container like an egg cup among bees’ favourite flowers, will provide them with energy at this busy time.f" (Muidugi see eraldi VALGE suhkru soovitamine vast on kahtlane loomulikult...)
KUid inimestel vist suurt muret ei ole, ehitavad siin hooksalt robot mesilaste peresi hoopis...
http://www.dvice.com/archives/2009/10/scientists-to-b.php
Murueide kommentaar:
Inimkond on nii ahne, hoolimatu ja rumal ja sellega saeb oksa, kus ise istub....Olgu kõigile teada, et kuikaovad mesilased ja teised putukad alla kriitilist piiri, siis on ohus kogu taimestik ja neist sõltuv bioloogiline elu planeedil Maa. Kui seda massilist mürgitamist ei lõpetata, siis saab Maast varsi üks elutu ja kurb planeet.
Iga inimene,kellel on kasvõi grammi jagu mõistust peas, peaks mõistma, et ilma mesilasteta ei tolmelda õitsevaid taimi mitte keegi....kui ei tomelda, siis ei saa, ka seemned areneda ja kui seemneid pole, siis liik sureb välja.
Tulge inimesed mõistusele ja lõpetage see kurnav ekstensiivne põllumajandus ja massiline mürkide kasutamine:
Tulge mõistusele, inimesed! MIllise kõleda maailma me kavatseme jätta oma lastele?
http://novaator.ee/ET/loodus/kas_on_mesilasel_muret/
25 July 2014 00:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
" Mesilased ja kimalased suhtlevad nii liigutuste, žestide kui lõhnasignaalide abil. Liigikaaslased annavad üksteisele teada, kus on parimad toitumisalad. Kuid ka erinevad liigid saavad üksteisest ootamatult hästi aru.
Londoni ülikooli loomapsühholoogid treenisid karukimalasi(Bombus terrestris) aru saama nii liigikaaslaste kui ka meemesilaste signaalidest, et läheduses on rikkalik korjeala.
Selgus, et kimalased kasutasid mesilastelt saadud infot sama hõlpsasti kui teiste kimalaste teateid.
Ilmselt on loomade liikide vaheline sotsiaalne õppimine looduses tavalisem, kui inimene seda arvata oskab.
"Sotsiaalset õppimist - uute käitumisviiside omandamist uuritakse enamasti ühe liigi piires. Kuid inimene saab tihti loodusest inspiratsiooni. Me lõime lindude ning putukate eeskujul lennukid. Ka loomad võivad kasutada teistelt liikidelt saadud infot toiduallikate või heade pesitsusalade kohta, " selgitas uurimuse autor Erika Dawson.
Uurija sõnul näitavad katsetulemused, et teiselt putukaliigilt saadud vihjed võivad kimalastele olla väga väärtuslikud.
Mesilased ja kimalased toituvad tihti samadel taimedel ja suurtel õitel võib korraga kohata erinevaid putukaid.
Ka võivad kimalased ja mesilased toidutaimede pärast vihasemalt konkureerida kui seni arvati ning konkurendi signaalide lugemine on tõeline spionaaživõte.
http://novaator.ee/ET/loodus/kimalased_moistavad_mesilaste_suhtlust/
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0031444
"Heterospecific social learning has been understudied in comparison to interactions between members of the same species. However, the learning mechanisms behind such information use can allow animals to be flexible in the cues that are used. This raises the question of whether conspecific cues are inherently more influential than cues provided by heterospecifics, or whether animals can simply use any cue that predicts fitness enhancing conditions, including those provided by heterospecifics. To determine how freely social information travels across species boundaries, we trained bumblebees (Bombus terrestris) to learn to use cues provided by conspecifics and heterospecific honey bees (Apis mellifera) to locate valuable floral resources. We found that heterospecific demonstrators did not differ from conspecifics in the extent to which they guided observers' choices, whereas various types of inorganic visual cues were consistently less effective than conspecifics. This was also true in a transfer test where bees were confronted with a novel flower type. However, in the transfer test, conspecifics were slightly more effective than heterospecific demonstrators. We then repeated the experiment with entirely naïve bees that had never foraged alongside conspecifics before. In this case, heterospecific demonstrators were equally efficient as conspecifics both in the initial learning task and the transfer test. Our findings demonstrate that social learning is not a unique process limited to conspecifics and that through associative learning, interspecifically sourced information can be just as valuable as that provided by conspecific individuals. Furthermore the results of this study highlight potential implications for understanding competition within natural pollinator communities.
Londoni ülikooli loomapsühholoogid treenisid karukimalasi(Bombus terrestris) aru saama nii liigikaaslaste kui ka meemesilaste signaalidest, et läheduses on rikkalik korjeala.
Selgus, et kimalased kasutasid mesilastelt saadud infot sama hõlpsasti kui teiste kimalaste teateid.
Ilmselt on loomade liikide vaheline sotsiaalne õppimine looduses tavalisem, kui inimene seda arvata oskab.
"Sotsiaalset õppimist - uute käitumisviiside omandamist uuritakse enamasti ühe liigi piires. Kuid inimene saab tihti loodusest inspiratsiooni. Me lõime lindude ning putukate eeskujul lennukid. Ka loomad võivad kasutada teistelt liikidelt saadud infot toiduallikate või heade pesitsusalade kohta, " selgitas uurimuse autor Erika Dawson.
Uurija sõnul näitavad katsetulemused, et teiselt putukaliigilt saadud vihjed võivad kimalastele olla väga väärtuslikud.
Mesilased ja kimalased toituvad tihti samadel taimedel ja suurtel õitel võib korraga kohata erinevaid putukaid.
Ka võivad kimalased ja mesilased toidutaimede pärast vihasemalt konkureerida kui seni arvati ning konkurendi signaalide lugemine on tõeline spionaaživõte.
http://novaator.ee/ET/loodus/kimalased_moistavad_mesilaste_suhtlust/
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0031444
"Heterospecific social learning has been understudied in comparison to interactions between members of the same species. However, the learning mechanisms behind such information use can allow animals to be flexible in the cues that are used. This raises the question of whether conspecific cues are inherently more influential than cues provided by heterospecifics, or whether animals can simply use any cue that predicts fitness enhancing conditions, including those provided by heterospecifics. To determine how freely social information travels across species boundaries, we trained bumblebees (Bombus terrestris) to learn to use cues provided by conspecifics and heterospecific honey bees (Apis mellifera) to locate valuable floral resources. We found that heterospecific demonstrators did not differ from conspecifics in the extent to which they guided observers' choices, whereas various types of inorganic visual cues were consistently less effective than conspecifics. This was also true in a transfer test where bees were confronted with a novel flower type. However, in the transfer test, conspecifics were slightly more effective than heterospecific demonstrators. We then repeated the experiment with entirely naïve bees that had never foraged alongside conspecifics before. In this case, heterospecific demonstrators were equally efficient as conspecifics both in the initial learning task and the transfer test. Our findings demonstrate that social learning is not a unique process limited to conspecifics and that through associative learning, interspecifically sourced information can be just as valuable as that provided by conspecific individuals. Furthermore the results of this study highlight potential implications for understanding competition within natural pollinator communities.
http://novaator.ee/ET/loodus/kimalased_moistavad_mesilaste_suhtlust/
25 July 2014 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Üks infoleht tolmeldajatest Eesti põllumeestele:
http://www.step-project.net/img/uplf/STEP_factsheet_EST.pdf
http://www.step-project.net/img/uplf/STEP_factsheet_EST.pdf
25 July 2014 00:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"Biokütuste tootmiseks kasvatavad Euroopa põllumehed üha rohkem rapsi. Paraku jääb aina vähemaks mesilasi, kes kannaksid õietolmu ühelt taimelt teisele. Mure ähvardab tõsiselt ka Eesti põllupidajaid, näitas ajakirjas PLoS One ilmunud rahvusvaheline uurimus.
Raps on leplik taim, teda tolmeldavad nii tuul kui putukad. Mesilased on tuulest siiski palju tõhusamad. Kui nemad põllul tegutsevad, valmivad seemned varem ja ühtlasemalt.
Meemesilased koguvad rapsipõldudelt hulganisti õietolmu ja nii on naabrimeestest rapsikasvataja ja mesiniku koostöö igati kasulik.
Paraku jääb meemesilasi pidevalt vähemaks. Suurbritannia Readingi ülikooli juhitud uurimuses koondasid teadlased 41 Euroopa riigi andmed põllukultuuride ja mesilasperede arvu kohta, autorite hulgas ka Tartu Ülikooli ökoloogid.
Praegu on Euroopas hinnanguliselt ligi 13,5 miljonit mesilasperet ehk ligikaudu seitse biljonit mesilast. Eesti mesilates elab pisut alla 15 000 pere.
Aastatel 2005 kuni 2010 kasvas Euroopas mesilasperede arv umbes 7 protsendi võrra, kuid biokütuse tootmiseks sobivaid taimi kasvatatakse tervelt kolmandiku võrra suuremal alal. Tolmeldamist vajavate põldude pindala kasvas 32 riigis ja kasv on kõige suurem Põhja-Euroopas. Soomes suurenes see koguni 91 protsendi võrra.
Nii ongi rohkem kui pool Euroopat ja ka Eesti hädas sellega, et põldudele ei jätku piisavalt meemesilasi. Loodusmaastikest kannavad õietolmu edasi kimalased ja sirelased, kuid nendest ei pruugi üha suuremaks muutuvate rapsipõldude jaoks piisata.
2020. aastaks peab kümnendik transpordis kasutatavatest kütustest pärinema taastuvatest allikatest. Seda nõuab Euroopa Liidu taastuvenergia direktiiv. Nii moodustub nõiaring, kus talunikke suunatakse rohkem rapsi kasvatama, kuid selle taime tolmeldamiseks napib mesilasi. Mesilastest ja kimalastest sõltuvad lisaks rapsikasvatajatele ka puuviljaaedade omanikud ja paljud teised talunikud.
Muret teeb ka see, et meemesilaste tervis on üha halvem. Pisikesi tiivulisi hävitavad põldudel kasutatud mürkkemikaalid ja erinevad haigused. Euroopa Liit on küll kehtestanud moratooriumi neonikotinoididele – mesilaste närvisüsteemi mõjutavatele putukamürkidele, kuid ainult sellest ei pruugi tolmeldajate kaitseks piisata.
Üks uurimuse autoreid, Tartu Ülikooli botaanikaprofessor Meelis Pärtel ütles, et Eesti põllumehi päästab tolmendajate puudusest meie mitmekesine loodusmaastik. “Võrreldes paljude teiste maadega on meil veel suhteliselt rohkelt elurikkust ja looduslikud tolmendajad kompenseerivad hetkel teatud määral meemesilaste vähesuse,” märkis ta.
Samas on tema sõnul Eestiski sarnaselt paljude teiste maadega mureks mesilaste ja teiste tolmendajate arvukuse vähenemine, mida seostatakse põllumajanduses kasutatavate taimekaitsevahendite mõjuga.
http://novaator.ee/ET/inimene/eestis_on_liiga_vahe_mesilasi/
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0082996
"Declines in insect pollinators across Europe have raised concerns about the supply of pollination services to agriculture. Simultaneously, EU agricultural and biofuel policies have encouraged substantial growth in the cultivated area of insect pollinated crops across the continent. Using data from 41 European countries, this study demonstrates that the recommended number of honeybees required to provide crop pollination across Europe has risen 4.9 times as fast as honeybee stocks between 2005 and 2010. Consequently, honeybee stocks were insufficient to supply >90% of demands in 22 countries studied. These findings raise concerns about the capacity of many countries to cope with major losses of wild pollinators and highlight numerous critical gaps in current understanding of pollination service supplies and demands, pointing to a pressing need for further research into this issue."
Raps on leplik taim, teda tolmeldavad nii tuul kui putukad. Mesilased on tuulest siiski palju tõhusamad. Kui nemad põllul tegutsevad, valmivad seemned varem ja ühtlasemalt.
Meemesilased koguvad rapsipõldudelt hulganisti õietolmu ja nii on naabrimeestest rapsikasvataja ja mesiniku koostöö igati kasulik.
Paraku jääb meemesilasi pidevalt vähemaks. Suurbritannia Readingi ülikooli juhitud uurimuses koondasid teadlased 41 Euroopa riigi andmed põllukultuuride ja mesilasperede arvu kohta, autorite hulgas ka Tartu Ülikooli ökoloogid.
Praegu on Euroopas hinnanguliselt ligi 13,5 miljonit mesilasperet ehk ligikaudu seitse biljonit mesilast. Eesti mesilates elab pisut alla 15 000 pere.
Aastatel 2005 kuni 2010 kasvas Euroopas mesilasperede arv umbes 7 protsendi võrra, kuid biokütuse tootmiseks sobivaid taimi kasvatatakse tervelt kolmandiku võrra suuremal alal. Tolmeldamist vajavate põldude pindala kasvas 32 riigis ja kasv on kõige suurem Põhja-Euroopas. Soomes suurenes see koguni 91 protsendi võrra.
Nii ongi rohkem kui pool Euroopat ja ka Eesti hädas sellega, et põldudele ei jätku piisavalt meemesilasi. Loodusmaastikest kannavad õietolmu edasi kimalased ja sirelased, kuid nendest ei pruugi üha suuremaks muutuvate rapsipõldude jaoks piisata.
2020. aastaks peab kümnendik transpordis kasutatavatest kütustest pärinema taastuvatest allikatest. Seda nõuab Euroopa Liidu taastuvenergia direktiiv. Nii moodustub nõiaring, kus talunikke suunatakse rohkem rapsi kasvatama, kuid selle taime tolmeldamiseks napib mesilasi. Mesilastest ja kimalastest sõltuvad lisaks rapsikasvatajatele ka puuviljaaedade omanikud ja paljud teised talunikud.
Muret teeb ka see, et meemesilaste tervis on üha halvem. Pisikesi tiivulisi hävitavad põldudel kasutatud mürkkemikaalid ja erinevad haigused. Euroopa Liit on küll kehtestanud moratooriumi neonikotinoididele – mesilaste närvisüsteemi mõjutavatele putukamürkidele, kuid ainult sellest ei pruugi tolmeldajate kaitseks piisata.
Üks uurimuse autoreid, Tartu Ülikooli botaanikaprofessor Meelis Pärtel ütles, et Eesti põllumehi päästab tolmendajate puudusest meie mitmekesine loodusmaastik. “Võrreldes paljude teiste maadega on meil veel suhteliselt rohkelt elurikkust ja looduslikud tolmendajad kompenseerivad hetkel teatud määral meemesilaste vähesuse,” märkis ta.
Samas on tema sõnul Eestiski sarnaselt paljude teiste maadega mureks mesilaste ja teiste tolmendajate arvukuse vähenemine, mida seostatakse põllumajanduses kasutatavate taimekaitsevahendite mõjuga.
http://novaator.ee/ET/inimene/eestis_on_liiga_vahe_mesilasi/
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0082996
"Declines in insect pollinators across Europe have raised concerns about the supply of pollination services to agriculture. Simultaneously, EU agricultural and biofuel policies have encouraged substantial growth in the cultivated area of insect pollinated crops across the continent. Using data from 41 European countries, this study demonstrates that the recommended number of honeybees required to provide crop pollination across Europe has risen 4.9 times as fast as honeybee stocks between 2005 and 2010. Consequently, honeybee stocks were insufficient to supply >90% of demands in 22 countries studied. These findings raise concerns about the capacity of many countries to cope with major losses of wild pollinators and highlight numerous critical gaps in current understanding of pollination service supplies and demands, pointing to a pressing need for further research into this issue."
http://novaator.ee/ET/inimene/eestis_on_liiga_vahe_mesilasi/
25 July 2014 00:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
" Mesilastarus on ülekaalus naissugu.
Mesilasema ülesandeks on muneda. Korjelendudel käivad töömesilased, kes on samuti emased, kuid vilunud silm teeb neil kohe vahet.
Töömesilased on pisemad ja lisaks on nende tagajalad kohastunud õietolmu kogumiseks. Erineva kehaehituse määrab ära ainult üks geen, näitasid USA Michigani osariigi ülikooli teadlased.
Putukate jalgade ja tiibade arengut mõjutab geen Ultrabithorax (Ubx). Entomoloog Zachary Huang lülitas selle geeni emastel mesilastel välja. Nii arenesid töömesilased, kellel polnud tagajalgadel suirakorvikest.
Väike karvadega ümbritsetud süvend on olemas kõikidel töömesilastel ja sinna kogutakse taimede õietolmu. Pidevalt pesas istuvatel emamesilastel suirakorvi pole.
Huangi sõnul määrab just Ubx-geen ära, kas mesilane on võimeline korjel käima. Sama DNA-järjestus mõjutab suirakorvide teket ka kimalastel.
Uurija kinnitusel on jalad õietolmu kogumiseks kohastunud eelkõige nendel kiletiivalistel putukatel, kelle ühiselu reeglid ja tööjaotus on kõige keerukamad. Väikestes pesades elutsevate mesilaste ja kimalaste suirakorvid on pisikesed või pole neid üldse.
Meemesilastel on tarus igaühel oma kindel roll ja nende korjetööliste suirakorvid on väga mahukad. Lisaks on tööliste jalgadel astlad ja harjased, millega õietolmu kokku pressida ja hiljem kergesti kätte saada. Ka nende arengut mõjutab geen Ubx.
http://novaator.ee/ET/loodus/mesilasema_ja_toomesilasi_eristab_uks_geen/
http://rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/10/1/20131021
"The key morphological feature that distinguishes corbiculate bees from other members of the Apidae family is the presence of the corbicula (pollen basket) on the tibial segment of hind legs. Here, we show that in the honeybee (Apis mellifera), the depletion of the gene Ultrabithorax (Ubx) by RNAi transforms the corbicula from a smooth, bristle-free concave structure to one covered with bristles. This is accompanied by a reduction of the pollen press, which is located on the basitarsus and used for packing the pollen pellet as well as a loss of the orderly arrangement of the rows of bristles that form the pollen comb. All these changes make the overall identity of workers’ T3 legs assume that of the queen. Furthermore, in a corbiculate bee of a different genus, Bombus impatiens, Ubx expression is also localized in T3 tibia and basitarsus. These observations suggest that the evolution of the pollen gathering apparatus in corbiculate bees may have a shared origin and could be traced to the acquisition of novel functions by Ubx, which in Apis were instrumental for subsequent castes and behavioural differentiation. "
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matsu
Aga kust tuleb see erinev geen? Igast suvalisest töömesilse munast on ju võimalik kasvatada ema.
Kui tarust kõrvaldada mesilasema, siis töömesilsed ehitavad tavalisele haudmele emakupud, tavalisele töömesilase munale antakse sööta mis emakasvatuseks vajalik ja sellest kasvabki ema. Aga kust tuleb see geen või kaob see hoopis ära?
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26.02.2014 11:51
x
Järelikult oli Stalini ajal Nõukogude geneetikateadust juhtinud Lõssenkol vähemalt teatud määral siiski õigus, s.t. elukeskkond võib siiski veel ka organismi elu algetappidel mõjutada geenide avaldumist.
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trofim_L%C3%B5ssenko
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism (kommunistlikute geenide uuringud ja kuidas ideoloogiast mitte arusaadavad geenid välja keerat loodusest (nagu vaimsedm hingelised inimesed)... vast olid taolised uuringud ?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamarckism
"It is often suggested that Lysenko's success came solely from the desire in the USSR to assert that heredity had only a limited role in human development; that future generations, living under socialism, would be purged of their "bourgeois" or "fascist" instincts. But Lysenko himself never purported that his views could be applied to human biology; they were relegated strictly to agriculture. He indeed attacked certain reductionist views of heredity, like eugenics, but only as bourgeois influences on science. Many scholarly works on Lysenkoism agree that it was not based on human genetics. Stalin, however, wanted to believe that Lysenkoism did apply to human genetics"
" Many of Lysenkoism's opponents, such as his former mentor Nikolai Ivanovich Vavilov, were imprisoned or even executed because of Lysenko's and Prezent's denunciations.
perhaps the only opponents of Lysenkoism during Stalin's lifetime to escape liquidation came from the small community of Soviet nuclear physicists: as Tony Judt has observed, "Stalin left his nuclear physicists alone... [He] may well have been mad but he was not.."
(Muidugi ma ise hullu tarkuses kahtlen kui ta usu vastu ja looduse vallutamisele lootis...)
http://erb.nlib.ee/?komp=&otsi=taimegeneetika®ister=marksonad&r_oid=b18fd77f
Mesilasema ülesandeks on muneda. Korjelendudel käivad töömesilased, kes on samuti emased, kuid vilunud silm teeb neil kohe vahet.
Töömesilased on pisemad ja lisaks on nende tagajalad kohastunud õietolmu kogumiseks. Erineva kehaehituse määrab ära ainult üks geen, näitasid USA Michigani osariigi ülikooli teadlased.
Putukate jalgade ja tiibade arengut mõjutab geen Ultrabithorax (Ubx). Entomoloog Zachary Huang lülitas selle geeni emastel mesilastel välja. Nii arenesid töömesilased, kellel polnud tagajalgadel suirakorvikest.
Väike karvadega ümbritsetud süvend on olemas kõikidel töömesilastel ja sinna kogutakse taimede õietolmu. Pidevalt pesas istuvatel emamesilastel suirakorvi pole.
Huangi sõnul määrab just Ubx-geen ära, kas mesilane on võimeline korjel käima. Sama DNA-järjestus mõjutab suirakorvide teket ka kimalastel.
Uurija kinnitusel on jalad õietolmu kogumiseks kohastunud eelkõige nendel kiletiivalistel putukatel, kelle ühiselu reeglid ja tööjaotus on kõige keerukamad. Väikestes pesades elutsevate mesilaste ja kimalaste suirakorvid on pisikesed või pole neid üldse.
Meemesilastel on tarus igaühel oma kindel roll ja nende korjetööliste suirakorvid on väga mahukad. Lisaks on tööliste jalgadel astlad ja harjased, millega õietolmu kokku pressida ja hiljem kergesti kätte saada. Ka nende arengut mõjutab geen Ubx.
http://novaator.ee/ET/loodus/mesilasema_ja_toomesilasi_eristab_uks_geen/
http://rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/10/1/20131021
"The key morphological feature that distinguishes corbiculate bees from other members of the Apidae family is the presence of the corbicula (pollen basket) on the tibial segment of hind legs. Here, we show that in the honeybee (Apis mellifera), the depletion of the gene Ultrabithorax (Ubx) by RNAi transforms the corbicula from a smooth, bristle-free concave structure to one covered with bristles. This is accompanied by a reduction of the pollen press, which is located on the basitarsus and used for packing the pollen pellet as well as a loss of the orderly arrangement of the rows of bristles that form the pollen comb. All these changes make the overall identity of workers’ T3 legs assume that of the queen. Furthermore, in a corbiculate bee of a different genus, Bombus impatiens, Ubx expression is also localized in T3 tibia and basitarsus. These observations suggest that the evolution of the pollen gathering apparatus in corbiculate bees may have a shared origin and could be traced to the acquisition of novel functions by Ubx, which in Apis were instrumental for subsequent castes and behavioural differentiation. "
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Kommentaarid:
matsu
Aga kust tuleb see erinev geen? Igast suvalisest töömesilse munast on ju võimalik kasvatada ema.
Kui tarust kõrvaldada mesilasema, siis töömesilsed ehitavad tavalisele haudmele emakupud, tavalisele töömesilase munale antakse sööta mis emakasvatuseks vajalik ja sellest kasvabki ema. Aga kust tuleb see geen või kaob see hoopis ära?
Lisa kommentaar
26.02.2014 11:51
x
Järelikult oli Stalini ajal Nõukogude geneetikateadust juhtinud Lõssenkol vähemalt teatud määral siiski õigus, s.t. elukeskkond võib siiski veel ka organismi elu algetappidel mõjutada geenide avaldumist.
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trofim_L%C3%B5ssenko
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism (kommunistlikute geenide uuringud ja kuidas ideoloogiast mitte arusaadavad geenid välja keerat loodusest (nagu vaimsedm hingelised inimesed)... vast olid taolised uuringud ?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamarckism
"It is often suggested that Lysenko's success came solely from the desire in the USSR to assert that heredity had only a limited role in human development; that future generations, living under socialism, would be purged of their "bourgeois" or "fascist" instincts. But Lysenko himself never purported that his views could be applied to human biology; they were relegated strictly to agriculture. He indeed attacked certain reductionist views of heredity, like eugenics, but only as bourgeois influences on science. Many scholarly works on Lysenkoism agree that it was not based on human genetics. Stalin, however, wanted to believe that Lysenkoism did apply to human genetics"
" Many of Lysenkoism's opponents, such as his former mentor Nikolai Ivanovich Vavilov, were imprisoned or even executed because of Lysenko's and Prezent's denunciations.
perhaps the only opponents of Lysenkoism during Stalin's lifetime to escape liquidation came from the small community of Soviet nuclear physicists: as Tony Judt has observed, "Stalin left his nuclear physicists alone... [He] may well have been mad but he was not.."
(Muidugi ma ise hullu tarkuses kahtlen kui ta usu vastu ja looduse vallutamisele lootis...)
http://erb.nlib.ee/?komp=&otsi=taimegeneetika®ister=marksonad&r_oid=b18fd77f
http://novaator.ee/ET/loodus/mesilasema_ja_toomesilasi_eristab_uks_geen/
25 July 2014 00:05
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
:D :D
24 July 2014 13:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/alan_watts.html
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/alan_watts.html
22 July 2014 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's post.
Group: Ting
Wou : ))21 July 2014 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on POCA's photo.
people should stop using this Wic.. word as it has special meaning,
... but the head does look Wic... thats for sure . ; )
Seriously thought, teenagers we can forgive as they should not know the big dark forces that do these tricks in language ... to change good to opposite, but... we... adults... should know better, learn from granny s!
... but the head does look Wic... thats for sure . ; )
Seriously thought, teenagers we can forgive as they should not know the big dark forces that do these tricks in language ... to change good to opposite, but... we... adults... should know better, learn from granny s!
20 July 2014 20:33
Margus Meigo commented on POCA's photo.
aaa..ga kus kaugel See video on ? : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEr-yIxEbLI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEr-yIxEbLI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEr-yIxEbLI
20 July 2014 20:11
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
Smart people do fallow orders, by trust
20 July 2014 02:56
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
ONly thing, that Germans was is smart by far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-m9A8mY-U0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-m9A8mY-U0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-m9A8mY-U0
20 July 2014 02:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
Juutuubis aint paar lugu oli20 July 2014 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Teine varjant parem, alumine, ning nagu väga hea näeb välja ka
20 July 2014 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Luule on ka 5+ naq
20 July 2014 02:50
Margus Meigo commented on Heiki Herman Soome's post.
Group: ENSV - NOSTALGILINE NÕUKOGUDE EESTI
Vaou! :D20 July 2014 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3czkckM8_64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3czkckM8_64
19 July 2014 21:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The Ulali Project at River People Festival singing "Idle No More"
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10204457045772512&set=vb.1422826815
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10204457045772512&set=vb.1422826815
19 July 2014 21:49
Margus Meigo commented on Kaidi-Ly Välb's post.
Group: Vägi Laulud
Vaou, kas kuidas kes tema on ? Mis on ta lugu me materiaalses ruumis ?19 July 2014 21:47
Margus Meigo commented on Heie Tuli's post.
Group: Vägi Laulud
ks lemmikumaid laule muidu : )
..kui seda teost üldse lauluks saab nimetada aint19 July 2014 21:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Endised punkarid
Praegu muidu päris timm, ilusaid hääli sääl
päris reaalse täis arhiivi võiks teha küll tulevikus, maksma eriti midagi see muud ei lähe kui huvi ja aega ... aga tuleviku suhtes vähemalt muusika päästaks ära küll kui ta sääl ruumides juba korra hõljub... : )19 July 2014 20:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Endised punkarid
Päris hea
Kui aega mõni päev, pane veel link vast gruppide Zip arhiividele ka, et siis mugavam ühes koos alla tirida (nuh, neid arhiive oma kettaruumi säästmiseks võib ka sharedisse ülesse lasta, tolledes pold mu arust isegi reklaame)19 July 2014 20:06
Margus Meigo commented on Michelle Matsumoto's post.
Group: Long Term Human Survival Group
we need to learn to love women, if we do not then it would be crime to stop global warming, we would need a urgent global heating,
to save some part of the world19 July 2014 19:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You say that life is all U have
But u waste it time and time again
I pray that U could see how beautiful
Is the one that you've been searchin for
(final life in Christ)
What,what, whats ya fantasy
Front row in the grammy seats
Hotel resorts,tailored shorts
Fancy suites on miami beach
Where the climates warm and ya in hot water like a bag of tea
Or, watchin the day go by on rodeyo drive wit bags of receipts
What, whats ya fantasy
Tell me wa,what do you plan to be
In five years
What are ya ideas
Of the good life, come on answer me
Honestly what do you dream about
Palm trees or the scenic route
Or a calm breeze,seen it out
Or the sun porch of ya dream house
You say that life is all U have
But u waste it time and time again
I pray that U could see how beautiful
Is the one that you've been searchin for
(final life in Christ)
See you look at cha life and don't like whatcha see
If only you could be whatcha see on tv
Short hair, long legs,full lips,white T,new whip,new chain, new fresh white T
If this is what makes you love you
Then what is left when these are thru
The truth is awaiting
What will you believe in
Yea,i wish you could see that beauty is fleating
Yea
(And the love that you see is right in front of you)
You say that life is all U have
But u waste it time and time again
I pray that U could see how beautiful
Is the one that you've been searchin for
You can say goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye
You can say goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye
You can say goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye
You don't have to cry, cry, cry
No more
You say that life is all U have
But u waste it time and time again
I pray that U could see how beautiful
Is the one that you've been searchin for
(final life in Christ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AH4Gx-8GCA
But u waste it time and time again
I pray that U could see how beautiful
Is the one that you've been searchin for
(final life in Christ)
What,what, whats ya fantasy
Front row in the grammy seats
Hotel resorts,tailored shorts
Fancy suites on miami beach
Where the climates warm and ya in hot water like a bag of tea
Or, watchin the day go by on rodeyo drive wit bags of receipts
What, whats ya fantasy
Tell me wa,what do you plan to be
In five years
What are ya ideas
Of the good life, come on answer me
Honestly what do you dream about
Palm trees or the scenic route
Or a calm breeze,seen it out
Or the sun porch of ya dream house
You say that life is all U have
But u waste it time and time again
I pray that U could see how beautiful
Is the one that you've been searchin for
(final life in Christ)
See you look at cha life and don't like whatcha see
If only you could be whatcha see on tv
Short hair, long legs,full lips,white T,new whip,new chain, new fresh white T
If this is what makes you love you
Then what is left when these are thru
The truth is awaiting
What will you believe in
Yea,i wish you could see that beauty is fleating
Yea
(And the love that you see is right in front of you)
You say that life is all U have
But u waste it time and time again
I pray that U could see how beautiful
Is the one that you've been searchin for
You can say goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye
You can say goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye
You can say goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye
You don't have to cry, cry, cry
No more
You say that life is all U have
But u waste it time and time again
I pray that U could see how beautiful
Is the one that you've been searchin for
(final life in Christ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AH4Gx-8GCA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AH4Gx-8GCA
19 July 2014 04:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Artificial Central Intelligence Agency is able to compose this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_KXsMCJgBQ with full calculations on truth,
but humans still calculating something we can see, feel, smell... with no great CPU power needed
for real, now or soon
but humans still calculating something we can see, feel, smell... with no great CPU power needed
for real, now or soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_KXsMCJgBQ
19 July 2014 04:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
so..
If I sing but don't have love
I waste my breath with every song
I bring an empty voice, a hollow noise.
If I speak with a silver tongue
convince a crowd but don't have love
I leave a bitter taste with every word I say.
[Chorus]
So let my life be the proof
the proof of your love.
Let my love look like you
and what you're made of.
How you lived, how you died.
Love is sacrifice.
So let my life be the proof,
the proof of your love.
[Verse 2]
If I give to a needy soul
but don't have love
then who is poor?
It seems all the poverty
is found in me.
[Bridge]
When it's all said and done,
When we sing our final song,
Only love remains.
Only love remains.
[Monologue]
If I speak with human eloquence and angelic ecstasy but don't love I'm nothing but the creaking of a rusty gate. If I speak God's word with power, revealing all of His mysteries and making everything as plain as day, and if I have faith to say to a mountain jump and it jumps but I don't love I'm nothing. If I give all I earn to the poor or even go to the stake to be burned as a martyr, but I don't love I've gotten nowhere. So, no matter what I say, no matter what I believe, no matter what I do, I'm bankrupt without love.
[Chorus]
let my life be the proof
the proof of your love.
Let my love look like you
and what you're made of.
How you lived, how you died.
Love is sacrifice.
So let my life be the proof,
the proof of your love.
If I sing but don't have love
I waste my breath with every song
I bring an empty voice, a hollow noise.
If I speak with a silver tongue
convince a crowd but don't have love
I leave a bitter taste with every word I say.
[Chorus]
So let my life be the proof
the proof of your love.
Let my love look like you
and what you're made of.
How you lived, how you died.
Love is sacrifice.
So let my life be the proof,
the proof of your love.
[Verse 2]
If I give to a needy soul
but don't have love
then who is poor?
It seems all the poverty
is found in me.
[Bridge]
When it's all said and done,
When we sing our final song,
Only love remains.
Only love remains.
[Monologue]
If I speak with human eloquence and angelic ecstasy but don't love I'm nothing but the creaking of a rusty gate. If I speak God's word with power, revealing all of His mysteries and making everything as plain as day, and if I have faith to say to a mountain jump and it jumps but I don't love I'm nothing. If I give all I earn to the poor or even go to the stake to be burned as a martyr, but I don't love I've gotten nowhere. So, no matter what I say, no matter what I believe, no matter what I do, I'm bankrupt without love.
[Chorus]
let my life be the proof
the proof of your love.
Let my love look like you
and what you're made of.
How you lived, how you died.
Love is sacrifice.
So let my life be the proof,
the proof of your love.
19 July 2014 04:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The Whole Truth Video:
Lyrics to The Whole Truth [feat. Mia Fieldes]
When I was dead, revived my soul
Takes the broken makes them whole
Takes the bound makes them free
Takes the weak and makes them strong
All of my sins been erased
He has lifted my disgrace
I'm overjoyed, overjoyed
That Jesus would make me fall whole
I ain't tryin to be hot just tryin to be relevant
I ain't a candle I ain't trying to wax eloquent
I'm runnin from my life, now I'm tryin to fight hard
These ain't just lyrics but a contrite heart
Yeah, feeling it like the heat in the summer
We know better but the flesh be keeping us running
Back the leeks and onions that's the recent discovered
If it's in the dark it's impossible to keep secrets covered
Who would have known that my indiscretions would reach my cousins
I apologize to Mimi my niece and others
Should have been able to trust but I breached the covenant
I knew you all before you was able to reach the cupboard
Now when I preached in public it's all out the window
Cause sin contradicted a lot of what my pen wrote
Especially when I wrote an open book
Apparently there was something in me I overlooked
[Hook:]
When I was dead, revived my soul
Takes the broken makes them whole
Takes the bound makes them free
Takes the weak and makes them strong
All of my sins been erased
He has lifted my disgrace
I'm overjoyed, overjoyed
That Jesus would make me fall whole
Check my records I got some prize they call em nights surprise like Harlem Knights
I need Jesus David's son like a holly harley bike
Wasn't hardly right what I did was wrong
And it ticks me off and sets me off
And I hate the consequences cause death is...
But I know I reap what I sow like Betsy Ross
He ain't tempt me but He let me fall
Now I carry all that pain, sin left me scarred
He let me fall but He ain't let me go
And now I wouldn't stray, sin left me broke
Yeah the life in me ain't no crystal stair
But I keep climbing cause the diamond is crystal clear
At times I'm quiet, I get a chair
Sit and stare think about the ways the sin affected my fiscal year
Yeah the tide is turning now, shifting gears
The weak is given strength in midst of tears
[Hook]
Felt dead and lonely
Only God knows
That Jesus came to breathe life on my dry bones
I know a lot, knowing a lot's not wrong
But now it's all about application like the iPhone
I got hang-ups like dial tones
Yeah but Jesus hung up and died so
No condemnation, that's my consolation
Am I still guilty? Not a conversation
Now I just wanna proclaim it in the congregation
God is good and Doctor Jesus got a lot of patience
I wanna operate and take the heart palpitate and look at what the bride is shaping
God I thank the body, cause y'all came behind me
When my foot slipped and I sank in the valley
Something supernatural happened when the saints rallied
My true friends held me up like a bank robbery
And that's foolproof, I can't even front like a gold tooth
I hate what I had to go through, but I love the fact that I got to know you
So what you are witnessing now is the whole truth
[Hook]
Lyrics to The Whole Truth [feat. Mia Fieldes]
When I was dead, revived my soul
Takes the broken makes them whole
Takes the bound makes them free
Takes the weak and makes them strong
All of my sins been erased
He has lifted my disgrace
I'm overjoyed, overjoyed
That Jesus would make me fall whole
I ain't tryin to be hot just tryin to be relevant
I ain't a candle I ain't trying to wax eloquent
I'm runnin from my life, now I'm tryin to fight hard
These ain't just lyrics but a contrite heart
Yeah, feeling it like the heat in the summer
We know better but the flesh be keeping us running
Back the leeks and onions that's the recent discovered
If it's in the dark it's impossible to keep secrets covered
Who would have known that my indiscretions would reach my cousins
I apologize to Mimi my niece and others
Should have been able to trust but I breached the covenant
I knew you all before you was able to reach the cupboard
Now when I preached in public it's all out the window
Cause sin contradicted a lot of what my pen wrote
Especially when I wrote an open book
Apparently there was something in me I overlooked
[Hook:]
When I was dead, revived my soul
Takes the broken makes them whole
Takes the bound makes them free
Takes the weak and makes them strong
All of my sins been erased
He has lifted my disgrace
I'm overjoyed, overjoyed
That Jesus would make me fall whole
Check my records I got some prize they call em nights surprise like Harlem Knights
I need Jesus David's son like a holly harley bike
Wasn't hardly right what I did was wrong
And it ticks me off and sets me off
And I hate the consequences cause death is...
But I know I reap what I sow like Betsy Ross
He ain't tempt me but He let me fall
Now I carry all that pain, sin left me scarred
He let me fall but He ain't let me go
And now I wouldn't stray, sin left me broke
Yeah the life in me ain't no crystal stair
But I keep climbing cause the diamond is crystal clear
At times I'm quiet, I get a chair
Sit and stare think about the ways the sin affected my fiscal year
Yeah the tide is turning now, shifting gears
The weak is given strength in midst of tears
[Hook]
Felt dead and lonely
Only God knows
That Jesus came to breathe life on my dry bones
I know a lot, knowing a lot's not wrong
But now it's all about application like the iPhone
I got hang-ups like dial tones
Yeah but Jesus hung up and died so
No condemnation, that's my consolation
Am I still guilty? Not a conversation
Now I just wanna proclaim it in the congregation
God is good and Doctor Jesus got a lot of patience
I wanna operate and take the heart palpitate and look at what the bride is shaping
God I thank the body, cause y'all came behind me
When my foot slipped and I sank in the valley
Something supernatural happened when the saints rallied
My true friends held me up like a bank robbery
And that's foolproof, I can't even front like a gold tooth
I hate what I had to go through, but I love the fact that I got to know you
So what you are witnessing now is the whole truth
[Hook]
19 July 2014 04:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Just Like You"
(feat. J. Paul)
[J-Paul:]
I just wanna be like you,
Walk like, talk like, even think like you
The only one I could look to
You're teaching me to be just like you
Well I just gotta be like, like,
I just gotta be like you
[Verse 1: Lecrae]
Dear, Uncle Chris, Uncle Keith, Uncle Ricky,
Before the Lord get me I gotta say something quickly
I grew up empty since my daddy wasn't with me shoot,
I wasn't picky I'd take any male figure
You
Stepped in at the right time,
It's 'cause of you that I write rhymes
You probably never knew that
I loved the way you used to come through,
Teach me to do the things that men do
True,
You showed me stuff I probably shouldn't have seen,
But you had barely made it out your teens,
And took me under your wings
I wanted hats, I wanted clothes just like you,
Lean to the side when I rolled just like you
Didn't care if people didn't like you,
You wanna bang, I wanna bang too
Skyline, pyru
You would've died, I would've died too,
You went to prison, got sick, lost your pops,
Yeah, I cried too
You never know who's right behind you,
I got a little son now and he do whatever I do
But it's something deep inside you,
That tell you it's gotta be more than doing what other guys do,
They had nobody there to guide you
But I followed your footsteps and this shouldn't surprise you,
You realize you, you realize you, you,
Yeah, I just wanna be like you
[Chorus:]
I just wanna be like you,
Walk like, talk like, even think like you
The only one I could look to,
You're teaching me to be just like you
Well I just gotta be like, like,
I just gotta be like you
[Verse 2:]
Now all I see is money, cars, jewels,
Stars
Womanizers, tough guys, guns, knives, and scars,
Drug pushers, thugs, strippers, fast girls, fast life
Everything I wanted and everything I could ask life
If this ain't living and they lied well,
Guess I married an old wives' tale
Wow, fail
I don't know another way to go,
This is the only way they ever showed
I got this emptiness inside that got me fighting for approval 'cause I missed out on my daddy saying, way to go,
And get that verbal affirmation on know how to treat a woman,
Know how to fix an engine,
That keep the car running
So now I'm looking at the media and I'm following what they feed me,
Rap stars, trap stars,
Whoever wants to lead me
Even though they lie they still tell me that they love me,
They say I'm good at bad things at least they proud of me
[Chorus:]
I just wanna be like you,
Walk like, talk like, even think like you
The only one I could look to
You're teaching me to be just like you
Well I just gotta be like, like,
I just gotta be like you
(Like you)
[Verse 3:]
I was created by God but I ain't wanna be like Him,
I wanna be Him
The Jack Sparrow of my Caribbean
I remember the first created being,
And how he shifted the blame on his dame
For fruit he shouldn't have eaten
And now look at us all out of Eden,
Wearing designer fig leaves by Louis Vuitton
Make believing
But God sees through my foolish pride,
And how I'm weak like Adam another victim of Lucifer's lies
But then in steps Jesus,
All men were created to lead but we needed somebody to lead us
More than a teacher,
But somebody to buy us back from the darkness,
You can say He redeemed us,
Taught us that real leaders follow God,
Finish the work 'cause we on our job
Taught us not to rob
But give life love a wife like He loved the Church,
Without seeing how many hearts we can break first
I wanna be like you in every way,
So if I gotta die every day
Unworthy sacrifice
But the least I can do is give the most of me
'Cause being just like you is what I'm supposed to be
They say you came for the lame,
I'm the lamest
I made a mess but you say you'll erase it,
I'll take it
They say you came for the lame,
I'm the lamest
I broke my life, but you say you'll replace it,
I'll take it.
(I just gotta be like, be like, be like..
Be like, be like, I just gotta be like, be like..
I just gotta be like you...)
(feat. J. Paul)
[J-Paul:]
I just wanna be like you,
Walk like, talk like, even think like you
The only one I could look to
You're teaching me to be just like you
Well I just gotta be like, like,
I just gotta be like you
[Verse 1: Lecrae]
Dear, Uncle Chris, Uncle Keith, Uncle Ricky,
Before the Lord get me I gotta say something quickly
I grew up empty since my daddy wasn't with me shoot,
I wasn't picky I'd take any male figure
You
Stepped in at the right time,
It's 'cause of you that I write rhymes
You probably never knew that
I loved the way you used to come through,
Teach me to do the things that men do
True,
You showed me stuff I probably shouldn't have seen,
But you had barely made it out your teens,
And took me under your wings
I wanted hats, I wanted clothes just like you,
Lean to the side when I rolled just like you
Didn't care if people didn't like you,
You wanna bang, I wanna bang too
Skyline, pyru
You would've died, I would've died too,
You went to prison, got sick, lost your pops,
Yeah, I cried too
You never know who's right behind you,
I got a little son now and he do whatever I do
But it's something deep inside you,
That tell you it's gotta be more than doing what other guys do,
They had nobody there to guide you
But I followed your footsteps and this shouldn't surprise you,
You realize you, you realize you, you,
Yeah, I just wanna be like you
[Chorus:]
I just wanna be like you,
Walk like, talk like, even think like you
The only one I could look to,
You're teaching me to be just like you
Well I just gotta be like, like,
I just gotta be like you
[Verse 2:]
Now all I see is money, cars, jewels,
Stars
Womanizers, tough guys, guns, knives, and scars,
Drug pushers, thugs, strippers, fast girls, fast life
Everything I wanted and everything I could ask life
If this ain't living and they lied well,
Guess I married an old wives' tale
Wow, fail
I don't know another way to go,
This is the only way they ever showed
I got this emptiness inside that got me fighting for approval 'cause I missed out on my daddy saying, way to go,
And get that verbal affirmation on know how to treat a woman,
Know how to fix an engine,
That keep the car running
So now I'm looking at the media and I'm following what they feed me,
Rap stars, trap stars,
Whoever wants to lead me
Even though they lie they still tell me that they love me,
They say I'm good at bad things at least they proud of me
[Chorus:]
I just wanna be like you,
Walk like, talk like, even think like you
The only one I could look to
You're teaching me to be just like you
Well I just gotta be like, like,
I just gotta be like you
(Like you)
[Verse 3:]
I was created by God but I ain't wanna be like Him,
I wanna be Him
The Jack Sparrow of my Caribbean
I remember the first created being,
And how he shifted the blame on his dame
For fruit he shouldn't have eaten
And now look at us all out of Eden,
Wearing designer fig leaves by Louis Vuitton
Make believing
But God sees through my foolish pride,
And how I'm weak like Adam another victim of Lucifer's lies
But then in steps Jesus,
All men were created to lead but we needed somebody to lead us
More than a teacher,
But somebody to buy us back from the darkness,
You can say He redeemed us,
Taught us that real leaders follow God,
Finish the work 'cause we on our job
Taught us not to rob
But give life love a wife like He loved the Church,
Without seeing how many hearts we can break first
I wanna be like you in every way,
So if I gotta die every day
Unworthy sacrifice
But the least I can do is give the most of me
'Cause being just like you is what I'm supposed to be
They say you came for the lame,
I'm the lamest
I made a mess but you say you'll erase it,
I'll take it
They say you came for the lame,
I'm the lamest
I broke my life, but you say you'll replace it,
I'll take it.
(I just gotta be like, be like, be like..
Be like, be like, I just gotta be like, be like..
I just gotta be like you...)
19 July 2014 03:50
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Group: Eestlased Londonis / Estonians in London
Muidugi Sinuga kalev üldiselt nad võiks maha istuda nagu suts võrdsega ja jagada infot kuidas inimkonda paremaks teha, sest ka Sa ise soovid ju seda tegelikult, seega teil sama eesmärk, erinev töö haare ja meethod lihtsalt
(ma ise inglismaal kongis ka olnud)19 July 2014 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Group: Eestlased Londonis / Estonians in London
Sa ajad vist Eesti mendid ja Eestis olevad Puna mendid omavahel sassi.
Eestlaseks ise olemine juba eeldab, et oled meeldiv inimene mis iganes alal oled.
Esoteerikat
(Punamendid selle ebaloomuliku loodusliku jõu osalised kes üle 1000aasta tagasi juba inglismaa ja kirikud normannide kaudu üle võttis.. seega sellised "erilised" mendid UKs hoitakse varuks tumedate ruumide jaoks mille olemasolu mullis olevate inimeste pehemendamiseks varjus hoitakse ja siis sutsatakse nagu vaablasega kui ainult vaja on, kuid harva,
kellegile ta rääkima ei saa minna, sest UK "pehmete mentide riigis" pätid enamus ise KA ei usuks midagi nii tumedat... )
Lisaks vaadatakse pätte kui psyholoogiliselt idioote inglismaal seega nendega tuleb nunnutada ja tagasihoidlik olla sest lollid muiud õrrituksid ja siis endal rohkem tööd.
Eestis mendid tithi iseseisvamad ja kaitseväelikuma haridusega, kes saavad aru, et nende kohus on kodu mölakate eest kaitsta, kui nemad ka seda ei tee kes SIIS veel??
Esiemene kriteerium filtris mille järgi näha kas tegu kellegagi kelle käsi vaja väänata (ja molli täiega kütta või muid poissmeeste nalju teha...) on see kas inimene kuuletub, austab ja võtab moka maha kui ment inimese poole põõrdub. Või suhtub inimene mentidesse juba ette ära nagu jobudesse...
Kui mokk maas pole siis vaadatakse kas lolluse (ülbuse) või mingi reaalse positsiooni pärast teine ennast hästi tunneb.
KUi esimene varjant ehk ülbe siis mida ise teeksid kellegagi kes sinu filtri systeemis on mingi valge tibla kes kasvatamata ema poolt ja tuleb kodurahu rikkuma ning ei oma austust SINU riigi, sinu ja nende suhtes kes pantud korda pidama inimkonnas ? NIng kui sul on regaalne ja reaalne võin ka teise üle 100% peaaegu... et nagu tõmbaksid kõrvad lidusse või annaksid mööda kõrvu tatikatele kes vastu plärtsuma hakkavad solvangutega ?19 July 2014 03:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
This one goes out to you labels and I mean all disrespect
But oh no no we won't crossover and oh no we won't sell out
Bump industry this ministry cuz preaching Jesus what we bout
Telling us that we belong out there with T.I.'s and Waynes tho
Talking money at us hope we hop the pouch like kangol
"I ain't tripping I ain't Kanye West but I bet you my Jesus Christ he gone walk wit me All of my peoples be getting money illegal but Imma challenge my brothers to get it lawfully "
" I still got my Jesus Piece hangin'
All up in your club, throw it up like we bangin'
Slangin' that rock but it ain't nothing like you thinkin'
We came to get 'em ready before them choppers go
"Pow Pow" and leave 'em stankin' "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_OS5g9Kzk8
But oh no no we won't crossover and oh no we won't sell out
Bump industry this ministry cuz preaching Jesus what we bout
Telling us that we belong out there with T.I.'s and Waynes tho
Talking money at us hope we hop the pouch like kangol
"I ain't tripping I ain't Kanye West but I bet you my Jesus Christ he gone walk wit me All of my peoples be getting money illegal but Imma challenge my brothers to get it lawfully "
" I still got my Jesus Piece hangin'
All up in your club, throw it up like we bangin'
Slangin' that rock but it ain't nothing like you thinkin'
We came to get 'em ready before them choppers go
"Pow Pow" and leave 'em stankin' "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_OS5g9Kzk8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_OS5g9Kzk8
19 July 2014 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
jup, kõik hea mida vaja
ülejäänu osas koike ei saa muidu kõike ei saaks mis vaja ja hea
ülejäänu osas koike ei saa muidu kõike ei saaks mis vaja ja hea
18 July 2014 02:56
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
vist
17 July 2014 03:18
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
nii pole polite" üelda
17 July 2014 03:17
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
i thought you had a birthday... so how come you ... ohh.. u a geek
17 July 2014 03:12
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
tis is actually worst advice to give people to get drunk and let morals down... as then we get used with it and getting morals back up to level that supports our soul life... is a work..
17 July 2014 03:11
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's post.
Great host
17 July 2014 00:01
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's photo.
( Actually she is warm in lakh of thousands ) .. but yes, Queen is great!
16 July 2014 23:57
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's link.
Death is reading this and thinks " Reaaaaaly? "
16 July 2014 23:52
Margus Meigo commented on An Qi's link.
great, should be minimum educational slide to everyone who learn in school about "indian" s
16 July 2014 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on Yi Zhe's post.
If we y will make peace then it will be, for real!
16 July 2014 23:35
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's photo.
Still same sleeping bag : ))
16 July 2014 23:23
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Meigo's post.
Kui ei tea siis ei küsi, enamasti : )
(pildi autor pole vastanud veel..)
(pildi autor pole vastanud veel..)
16 July 2014 07:09
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's link.
ma pold nii pikka täispikka videot miskist lamparist ammu lõpuni vaadanud
16 July 2014 07:02
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's link.
Norm vend
16 July 2014 07:01
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
See kärbsega oli päris karm :D
16 July 2014 06:48
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's link.
ma poleks iialgi arvanud et ma mees postitantsjat vaatama jään
16 July 2014 06:40
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
ses suhtes, et nagu jah... vegggi pizza soovitus oli ka hea :D
16 July 2014 06:33
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
:D
Vau see nagu väga hea kokkuvõte nii mitmel tasandil,
Kuid tõsi ta on.. ja sedasi nagu läheb siis kui hästi läheb..
(me materiaalses maailmas sellel maal juba mõnda aega, spirituaalses maailmas pidevalt... ja globaalses teadvuses... noh.. see võtab vast veel aega, praegu inimesed liialt reageeriksid, seega ei saa kõike teenuseid pakkuda...)
Vau see nagu väga hea kokkuvõte nii mitmel tasandil,
Kuid tõsi ta on.. ja sedasi nagu läheb siis kui hästi läheb..
(me materiaalses maailmas sellel maal juba mõnda aega, spirituaalses maailmas pidevalt... ja globaalses teadvuses... noh.. see võtab vast veel aega, praegu inimesed liialt reageeriksid, seega ei saa kõike teenuseid pakkuda...)
16 July 2014 06:33
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
ei, veel siin,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-m9A8mY-U0
ei noh.. oleneb muidugi kas uued või vanad sakslased..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-m9A8mY-U0
ei noh.. oleneb muidugi kas uued või vanad sakslased..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-m9A8mY-U0
16 July 2014 06:25
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Kolmanda paketi jätaks välja, esimene pakett oli päris hea
16 July 2014 06:16
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
again and again and again
16 July 2014 06:11
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
yeah.. suts palju mille kallal toimetada kuid yeah.. lets get working
16 July 2014 06:10
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Kuidas on võimalik, et inimesed nagu need olid suurel ekraanil ja endiselt suurem osa inimesi liikuma ei hakkanud oma tegudes elu sunal
16 July 2014 06:09
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Küll me areneme
16 July 2014 06:07
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
hooly :D
Mul kohe nitendo tuli meelde
Mul kohe nitendo tuli meelde
16 July 2014 06:07
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
haige vend oled ka ikka :p
16 July 2014 06:06
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
f4 real man
16 July 2014 06:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Komentaarid päris südamlikud kus proovitakse rahulikult seletada, tõsine teema aga nagu raske tõsiseks jääda
Üks küsis siis siiralt vist: "
Can someone explain to me what the jumper cables to the dog thing is supposed to reference?" (vb see meelega küsitud, anyway, wastused ikka head newbidele lugemiseks)
"Edison wanted to prove to the world that AC was dangerous. He used AC to execute animals. He also invented the first electric chair. Read more about it, it's pretty fucked up"
" Edison used to give demonstrations to prove that Tesla's alternating current was dangerous so he would give presentations of dogs and cats being electrocuted by it."
"yeah except that direct current is just as dangerous, Edison didn't show people that side of the coin"
yeah, the tests were pretty much useless. He just wanted to control the people by using fear, even giving the term "Westinghoused" to being electrocuted
"Shocking a bitch."
"facked ap." ..
Seda ma veel ei teadnutki, tra nagu eriti haige vend (seeaeg kui üks nuputab kuidas kõigile tasuta energjat tuua Edison, peale suhu saamist, hakkas kemplema hoopis teemal, et "minu elekter tapab (ka) paremini kui sinu oma ja siis ka hakkama ei saanud.. ) :
---
"However, with the electric chair experiment, Edison specifically ordered them to do it with AC electricity to discredit Tesla, but the initial shock was not enough to kill the convict in question. It took about six shocks to kill him."
Ulme ikka.. ega ta node marslastelt vist ikka nii kõva tehnoloogiat ei saanud sinna trippides kui uskus end saavat :D
argh.. nii haige, ühiskond.. ei anna olla ikka
Üks küsis siis siiralt vist: "
Can someone explain to me what the jumper cables to the dog thing is supposed to reference?" (vb see meelega küsitud, anyway, wastused ikka head newbidele lugemiseks)
"Edison wanted to prove to the world that AC was dangerous. He used AC to execute animals. He also invented the first electric chair. Read more about it, it's pretty fucked up"
" Edison used to give demonstrations to prove that Tesla's alternating current was dangerous so he would give presentations of dogs and cats being electrocuted by it."
"yeah except that direct current is just as dangerous, Edison didn't show people that side of the coin"
yeah, the tests were pretty much useless. He just wanted to control the people by using fear, even giving the term "Westinghoused" to being electrocuted
"Shocking a bitch."
"facked ap." ..
Seda ma veel ei teadnutki, tra nagu eriti haige vend (seeaeg kui üks nuputab kuidas kõigile tasuta energjat tuua Edison, peale suhu saamist, hakkas kemplema hoopis teemal, et "minu elekter tapab (ka) paremini kui sinu oma ja siis ka hakkama ei saanud.. ) :
---
"However, with the electric chair experiment, Edison specifically ordered them to do it with AC electricity to discredit Tesla, but the initial shock was not enough to kill the convict in question. It took about six shocks to kill him."
Ulme ikka.. ega ta node marslastelt vist ikka nii kõva tehnoloogiat ei saanud sinna trippides kui uskus end saavat :D
argh.. nii haige, ühiskond.. ei anna olla ikka
16 July 2014 05:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
1910 A Trip To Mars - Thomas Edison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np7VImsSMQM
This film was produced by Thomas Edison for his Home Kinetoscope in 1910, The First American Science fiction movie. We scanned 10,000 frames from the original print and reconstructed it. We also added a period sound track. As far as we can determine this is the only existing copy.
Selle aasta sees nagu ametlikult peaks see esimesi kõvema tehnoloogiaga film olema.. või võrdle muid selles ajas.. nagu mis mõttes : )
Siin pranslaste kuule lend ka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JDaOOw0MEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np7VImsSMQM
This film was produced by Thomas Edison for his Home Kinetoscope in 1910, The First American Science fiction movie. We scanned 10,000 frames from the original print and reconstructed it. We also added a period sound track. As far as we can determine this is the only existing copy.
Selle aasta sees nagu ametlikult peaks see esimesi kõvema tehnoloogiaga film olema.. või võrdle muid selles ajas.. nagu mis mõttes : )
Siin pranslaste kuule lend ka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JDaOOw0MEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np7VImsSMQM
16 July 2014 05:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-m9A8mY-U0
... okey ma veel uurin mis kaameraga ja kas päriselt see filmitud sedasi... aga...
... okey ma veel uurin mis kaameraga ja kas päriselt see filmitud sedasi... aga...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-m9A8mY-U0
16 July 2014 05:36
Margus Meigo commented on Sean McKernan's post.
or we might think, "well, good at least that someone got a lot from nothing in world where most have do a lot.. to have some.."
16 July 2014 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's photo.
we hope so
15 July 2014 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLYpcQ37yYE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLYpcQ37yYE
15 July 2014 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Hoitke taimed ka meeles, vene teadlastelt soomes : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ4a_Gu49SA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ4a_Gu49SA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ4a_Gu49SA
15 July 2014 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on Michael Dickinson's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
Well, lets hope they get some spiritual insight from there :=)14 July 2014 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
" Johnson, though reluctant to discuss his own personal views, does make allusions to a theistic viewpoint. Speaking about a line in his song, “Sleep Through the Static,” he said:
The line about God wearing camouflage you can read as God is in everything. The idea of camouflage, he’s blending in, he’s always all around… None of it is untrue if you believe in any form of God, whether you want to call it nature or the guy with the grey beard.1
We’re treading in pantheistic territory here, which would make total sense given that Johnson covered the Mason Jennings song, “I Love You and Buddha Too,” the lyrics of which include:
Jesus, I love you/and I love Buddha, too/Ramakrshna, Guru Dev/Daodejing and Mohammed/Why do some people say/that there is just one way/to love you God and come to you?/We are all a part of you.2
Pantheistic politics
Johnson has called himself a hippie,3 so what else needs to be said? And truly, everything else falls into line. "
http://hollowverse.com/jack-johnson/
The line about God wearing camouflage you can read as God is in everything. The idea of camouflage, he’s blending in, he’s always all around… None of it is untrue if you believe in any form of God, whether you want to call it nature or the guy with the grey beard.1
We’re treading in pantheistic territory here, which would make total sense given that Johnson covered the Mason Jennings song, “I Love You and Buddha Too,” the lyrics of which include:
Jesus, I love you/and I love Buddha, too/Ramakrshna, Guru Dev/Daodejing and Mohammed/Why do some people say/that there is just one way/to love you God and come to you?/We are all a part of you.2
Pantheistic politics
Johnson has called himself a hippie,3 so what else needs to be said? And truly, everything else falls into line. "
http://hollowverse.com/jack-johnson/
http://hollowverse.com/jack-johnson/
14 July 2014 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
xD (ironic, ... but look the comments on the page, actually he is free....)
" There is a hipster surfer and singer named Jack Johnson and he has finally been arrested for all his songs about wooing young girls and then smoking magic mint with his little thug friend Ben Harper.
It is about time we started to put these musicians behind bars.
Johnson has long been on the radar, using minor harmonics on a traditional Hawaain scale combined with rhythm guitar to draw liberal college students into a glaze-eyed spell.
Johnson’s music is all about wooing women and then hidden drug references, cleverly disguised as film-noire appreciation.
Any residential advisor for a freshman living facility can tell you the stats. Most frehmen males will buy a cheap guitar and learn how to play Jack Johnson’s very simple style.
They will sit around campus or any open common area, rolling their eyes around like a catatonic child with mild autism, all so girls will think they are engrossed in the music when in reality they are only wanting to do gross things with the girls.
College men have a 32% chance of a girl trapping them with pregnancy, and Jack Johnson’s music is a core problem. These young men get caught into the idea of being a ‘cool surfer dude with drugs and chicks’.
While all of these facts are horrible,there is one sad reality: it is mostly legal. Where Jack ran into trouble is when he started peddling his cds to children, spreading these dangerous messages. Let’s look at a few of his ‘children’s’ releases:
Upside Down
This is a song where Jack Johnson uses Curious George. While Johnson is only trying to peddle music meant for adults, he’s guilty for creating songs with subliminal, latent messages. Homosexuals eagerly exploit these songs to get kids, and Curious George is their second favorite weapon right after “Winnie the Poo Bear”.
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqUdI4AIDF0
Johnson had to know gays could twist these lyrics and tell children it was okay, because it had a Curious Monkey on it. Gays all have a ‘curious monkey’ in their pants and they want everyone to play swing rope with it.
Look at a part of the lyrics:
I can feel a change in everything
And as the surface breaks reflections fade
But in some ways they remain the same
And as my mind begins to spread its wings
There’s no stopping curiosity
I want to turn the whole thing upside down
I’ll find the things they say just can’t be found
I’ll share this love I find with everyone
We’ll sing and dance to Mother Nature’s songs
I don’t want this feeling to go away
This song is scary. Look: “I’ll share this love I find with everyone”. Why are kids being encouraged to be promiscuous.
Then look: “We’ll sing and dance to mother nature’s song” – Advocating Pagan moon worship
Then there it talk of doing ‘curious things’ and ‘feeling don’t go away, upside down’ which is just more revelations of how gays are horrible and scary, trying to lure our children.
If these crimes were not enough, look at the next expose:
WE ARE GOING TO BE FRIENDS
This song sounds like a love song, so why is it written to our children?
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo2OY_es5iM
Outrage! The lyrics here:
Fall is here, hear the yell
Back to school, ring the bell
Brand new shoes, walking blues
Climb the fence, books and pens
I can tell that we are going to be friends
Yes I can tell that we are going to be friends
Walk with me Suzy Lee
Through the park and by the tree
We can rest upon the ground
And look at all the bugs we’ve found
Safely walk to school without a sound
We safely walk to school without a sound
Well here we are no one else
We walk to school all by ourselves
There’s dirt on our uniforms
From chasing all the ants and worms
We clean up and now it’s time to learn
We clean up and now it’s time to learn
Numbers letters learn to spell
Nouns and books and show and tell
Play time we will throw the ball
Then back to class through the hall
The teacher marks our height against the wall
The teacher marks our height against the wall
And we don’t notice any time pass
Because we don’t notice anything
And we sit side by side in every class
The teacher thinks that I sound funny
But she likes it when you sing
Tonight I’ll dream in my bed
While silly thoughts run through my head
Of the bugs and alphabet
And when I wake tomorrow I’ll bet
That you and I will walk together again
Because I can tell that we are going to be friends
I can tell that we are going to be friends
Secret walks to school? Playing ‘bugs’ with strangers? He’ll lay in his bed and dream of Suzie Lee?
My anger is riled. No wonder when you see guys around campus, the fans of the music always look a little girlie and then even though they are men, they have no bass in their voices and sing like little constipated Nancy’s.
It is sad what happened to proper college music these days and I am so proud that there is Jack Johnson arrested for drug induced music.
http://christwire.org/2010/11/musician-jack-johnson-arrested-for-drug-inducing-music/
PG County Executive Jack Johnson And Wife Arrested By Feds
" Federal agents arrested Prince George’s County Executive Jack Johnson and his wife, county councilmember-elect Leslie Johnson, after raiding Johnson’s home and offices on Friday.
Federal agents executed 13 search warrants today as part of a far-ranging, two-year investigation into corruption in Prince George’s County government related to land and housing deals, according to a federal law enforcement source. "
(LOL )
http://woldcnews.newsone.com/360461/pg-county-executive-jack-johnson-and-wife-arrested-by-feds-breaking-news/
( so they talk about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_B._Johnson ... just to make clear)
" There is a hipster surfer and singer named Jack Johnson and he has finally been arrested for all his songs about wooing young girls and then smoking magic mint with his little thug friend Ben Harper.
It is about time we started to put these musicians behind bars.
Johnson has long been on the radar, using minor harmonics on a traditional Hawaain scale combined with rhythm guitar to draw liberal college students into a glaze-eyed spell.
Johnson’s music is all about wooing women and then hidden drug references, cleverly disguised as film-noire appreciation.
Any residential advisor for a freshman living facility can tell you the stats. Most frehmen males will buy a cheap guitar and learn how to play Jack Johnson’s very simple style.
They will sit around campus or any open common area, rolling their eyes around like a catatonic child with mild autism, all so girls will think they are engrossed in the music when in reality they are only wanting to do gross things with the girls.
College men have a 32% chance of a girl trapping them with pregnancy, and Jack Johnson’s music is a core problem. These young men get caught into the idea of being a ‘cool surfer dude with drugs and chicks’.
While all of these facts are horrible,there is one sad reality: it is mostly legal. Where Jack ran into trouble is when he started peddling his cds to children, spreading these dangerous messages. Let’s look at a few of his ‘children’s’ releases:
Upside Down
This is a song where Jack Johnson uses Curious George. While Johnson is only trying to peddle music meant for adults, he’s guilty for creating songs with subliminal, latent messages. Homosexuals eagerly exploit these songs to get kids, and Curious George is their second favorite weapon right after “Winnie the Poo Bear”.
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqUdI4AIDF0
Johnson had to know gays could twist these lyrics and tell children it was okay, because it had a Curious Monkey on it. Gays all have a ‘curious monkey’ in their pants and they want everyone to play swing rope with it.
Look at a part of the lyrics:
I can feel a change in everything
And as the surface breaks reflections fade
But in some ways they remain the same
And as my mind begins to spread its wings
There’s no stopping curiosity
I want to turn the whole thing upside down
I’ll find the things they say just can’t be found
I’ll share this love I find with everyone
We’ll sing and dance to Mother Nature’s songs
I don’t want this feeling to go away
This song is scary. Look: “I’ll share this love I find with everyone”. Why are kids being encouraged to be promiscuous.
Then look: “We’ll sing and dance to mother nature’s song” – Advocating Pagan moon worship
Then there it talk of doing ‘curious things’ and ‘feeling don’t go away, upside down’ which is just more revelations of how gays are horrible and scary, trying to lure our children.
If these crimes were not enough, look at the next expose:
WE ARE GOING TO BE FRIENDS
This song sounds like a love song, so why is it written to our children?
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo2OY_es5iM
Outrage! The lyrics here:
Fall is here, hear the yell
Back to school, ring the bell
Brand new shoes, walking blues
Climb the fence, books and pens
I can tell that we are going to be friends
Yes I can tell that we are going to be friends
Walk with me Suzy Lee
Through the park and by the tree
We can rest upon the ground
And look at all the bugs we’ve found
Safely walk to school without a sound
We safely walk to school without a sound
Well here we are no one else
We walk to school all by ourselves
There’s dirt on our uniforms
From chasing all the ants and worms
We clean up and now it’s time to learn
We clean up and now it’s time to learn
Numbers letters learn to spell
Nouns and books and show and tell
Play time we will throw the ball
Then back to class through the hall
The teacher marks our height against the wall
The teacher marks our height against the wall
And we don’t notice any time pass
Because we don’t notice anything
And we sit side by side in every class
The teacher thinks that I sound funny
But she likes it when you sing
Tonight I’ll dream in my bed
While silly thoughts run through my head
Of the bugs and alphabet
And when I wake tomorrow I’ll bet
That you and I will walk together again
Because I can tell that we are going to be friends
I can tell that we are going to be friends
Secret walks to school? Playing ‘bugs’ with strangers? He’ll lay in his bed and dream of Suzie Lee?
My anger is riled. No wonder when you see guys around campus, the fans of the music always look a little girlie and then even though they are men, they have no bass in their voices and sing like little constipated Nancy’s.
It is sad what happened to proper college music these days and I am so proud that there is Jack Johnson arrested for drug induced music.
http://christwire.org/2010/11/musician-jack-johnson-arrested-for-drug-inducing-music/
PG County Executive Jack Johnson And Wife Arrested By Feds
" Federal agents arrested Prince George’s County Executive Jack Johnson and his wife, county councilmember-elect Leslie Johnson, after raiding Johnson’s home and offices on Friday.
Federal agents executed 13 search warrants today as part of a far-ranging, two-year investigation into corruption in Prince George’s County government related to land and housing deals, according to a federal law enforcement source. "
(LOL )
http://woldcnews.newsone.com/360461/pg-county-executive-jack-johnson-and-wife-arrested-by-feds-breaking-news/
( so they talk about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_B._Johnson ... just to make clear)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqUdI4AIDF0
14 July 2014 01:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
So there is amazing Man there, : )
Thank You!
Thank You!
14 July 2014 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Veiko kõige olulisemaid inimesi olema avatud Juhtimis Kooli seminaril mis praegu Tartus toimub veel paar päeva, Liina ka kindlasti päris inimene kes räägib sellest ja selliselt mida meil Selles maailmas vaja läheb :)
http://www.nooredliidrid.ee/juhtimiskool/
http://www.nooredliidrid.ee/juhtimiskool/
http://www.nooredliidrid.ee/juhtimiskool/
13 July 2014 22:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Sama video saab teha inimestega ... kes küll meie hundiks saaks olema... )
13 July 2014 22:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
few egg full of bacteria... and some wind... and earth can breath and flourish in no time again.
13 July 2014 22:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Human hands have helped to destroy most of the living nature in many parts of this world and trend is rising. But earth is still in same size. so you do the calculations.. i still see great hope to reform current school systems and state structures, media and services with food habits before the need to replace this (man) species comes and urgent matter be on return. And it is easy as well, to quit this species, no war needed really. At all, less then few years will take... and longer version will be hundred years (by turning off breeding option, child giving option in most parts of world, starting from the ones who most against it... Do we start to realize HOW easy is to do that, if in our body would be just humans ? )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taoHk_enqWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taoHk_enqWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taoHk_enqWA
13 July 2014 22:34
Margus Meigo commented on Adam Alt's post.
:D
13 July 2014 22:11
Margus Meigo commented on Rebecca Hanna's post.
but would really want to know ...
13 July 2014 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on Rebecca Hanna's post.
Me have feeling like that generally with people..
13 July 2014 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on Balance The Herb's link.
But great work actually
13 July 2014 17:13
Margus Meigo commented on Balance The Herb's link.
What about ACTUAL effects like spiritual effects, does this plant like us to be smoked or eaten? What other similar plants can help to keep our soul doing what body wants (or vice verse) ... is there a soul effects for plants like this.
What is REALLY happening - how come these ideas come to the mind. From who ... what about physical possessions.
What is REALLY happening - how come these ideas come to the mind. From who ... what about physical possessions.
13 July 2014 17:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
N here She talks more from Institute of HeartMath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ddhzS_E0BM&list=PLB33CE7D38CDD7387&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ddhzS_E0BM&list=PLB33CE7D38CDD7387&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ddhzS_E0BM&list=PLB33CE7D38CDD7387&index=6
13 July 2014 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
And then they see screens like that: (seriously... take it easy..)
" American politics routinely asserted that fluoridation was part of a far-reaching plot to impose a socialist or communist regime. They also opposed other public health programs, notably mass vaccination and mental health services.
Some took the view that fluoridation was only the first stage of a plan to control the American people. Fluoridation, it was claimed, was merely a stepping-stone on the way to implementing more ambitious programs. Others asserted the existence of a plot by communists and the United Nations to "deplete the brainpower and sap the strength of a generation of American children". Dr. Charles Bett, a prominent anti-fluoridationist, charged that fluoridation was "better than using the atom bomb because the atom bomb has to be made, has to be transported to the place it is to be set off while poisonous fluorine has been placed right beside the water supplies by the Americans themselves ready to be dumped into the water mains whenever a Communist desires!
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1931:Public Health Service dentist H. Trendley Dean is dispatched by ALCOA founder Andrew Mellon to certain remote towns in the Western U.S. where water wells have a naturally high concentration of calcium fluorides. Dean’s mission would be to find out how much fluoride people could physically tolerate before obvious visible damage to their teeth.
Dean publishes a purposely skewed and deceptive study which purports to show that at 1ppm, fluorides result in the “reduction of tooth decay”.
1957: June 22: Controversial statement from Oliver Kenneth Goff (a member of the Communist Party and the Young Communist League from May 2, 1936 to October 9, 1939), reveals he testified before the House Un-American Activities Committee in 1939, as to the implementation of the fluoridation of American public water supplies in the same way they used it as a brain tranquillizer at Soviet prison camps. Goff reflected that the Party leaders felt fluoridation would bring about lethargy in the U.S, and keep the public docile during a steady encroachment of Communism. Also discussed, was keeping a store of deadly fluoride near the water supplies where during a time of revolt it could be dumped wholesale into the water supply and either kill off the populace, or threaten them with liquidation, so that they would surrender to obtain fresh water
----
following nations previously fluoridated their water, but stopped the practice, with the years when water fluoridation started and stopped in parentheses:
Federal Republic of Germany (1952–1971)
Sweden (1952–1971)
Netherlands (1953–1976)
Czechoslovakia (1955–1990)
German Democratic Republic (1959–1990)
Soviet Union (1960–1990)
Finland (1959–1993)
Japan (1952–1972)
Denmark and Sweden banned fluoridation when government panels found insufficient evidence of safety, and the Netherlands banned water fluoridation when "a group of medical practitioners presented evidence" that it caused negative effects in a percentage of the population.
" American politics routinely asserted that fluoridation was part of a far-reaching plot to impose a socialist or communist regime. They also opposed other public health programs, notably mass vaccination and mental health services.
Some took the view that fluoridation was only the first stage of a plan to control the American people. Fluoridation, it was claimed, was merely a stepping-stone on the way to implementing more ambitious programs. Others asserted the existence of a plot by communists and the United Nations to "deplete the brainpower and sap the strength of a generation of American children". Dr. Charles Bett, a prominent anti-fluoridationist, charged that fluoridation was "better than using the atom bomb because the atom bomb has to be made, has to be transported to the place it is to be set off while poisonous fluorine has been placed right beside the water supplies by the Americans themselves ready to be dumped into the water mains whenever a Communist desires!
---
1931:Public Health Service dentist H. Trendley Dean is dispatched by ALCOA founder Andrew Mellon to certain remote towns in the Western U.S. where water wells have a naturally high concentration of calcium fluorides. Dean’s mission would be to find out how much fluoride people could physically tolerate before obvious visible damage to their teeth.
Dean publishes a purposely skewed and deceptive study which purports to show that at 1ppm, fluorides result in the “reduction of tooth decay”.
1957: June 22: Controversial statement from Oliver Kenneth Goff (a member of the Communist Party and the Young Communist League from May 2, 1936 to October 9, 1939), reveals he testified before the House Un-American Activities Committee in 1939, as to the implementation of the fluoridation of American public water supplies in the same way they used it as a brain tranquillizer at Soviet prison camps. Goff reflected that the Party leaders felt fluoridation would bring about lethargy in the U.S, and keep the public docile during a steady encroachment of Communism. Also discussed, was keeping a store of deadly fluoride near the water supplies where during a time of revolt it could be dumped wholesale into the water supply and either kill off the populace, or threaten them with liquidation, so that they would surrender to obtain fresh water
----
following nations previously fluoridated their water, but stopped the practice, with the years when water fluoridation started and stopped in parentheses:
Federal Republic of Germany (1952–1971)
Sweden (1952–1971)
Netherlands (1953–1976)
Czechoslovakia (1955–1990)
German Democratic Republic (1959–1990)
Soviet Union (1960–1990)
Finland (1959–1993)
Japan (1952–1972)
Denmark and Sweden banned fluoridation when government panels found insufficient evidence of safety, and the Netherlands banned water fluoridation when "a group of medical practitioners presented evidence" that it caused negative effects in a percentage of the population.
13 July 2014 01:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
NO wonder hippies get paranoid as they read:
"#Fluorine is an extremely reactive and poisonous chemical element with atomic number 9. The lightest halogen and most electronegative element, it exists as a pale yellow diatomic gas at standard conditions. BUT
"Almost all other elements, including some noble gases, form compounds with fluorine."
SO,
"First poposed as an element in 1810, fluorine proved difficult and dangerous to separate from its compounds, with several early experimenters dying or sustaining injuries in their attempts to do so. In 1886, French chemist Henri Moissan succeeded in isolating elemental fluorine using low-temperature electrolysis, a process still employed in modern-day production." .... production ?
ok...
"Organic fluorides have very high chemical and thermal stability and are used in refrigerants, cookware, and electrical insulation. Pharmaceuticals such as atorvastatin and fluoxetine contain fluorine, and the fluoride ion, which inhibits dental cavities, is used in toothpaste and water fluoridation. Uranium enrichment, the largest application for free fluorine, began during the Manhattan Project (Atomic Bomb) in World War II. Global fluorochemical sales amount to over US$15 billion a year." ..
"...controlled public water supply fluoridation against tooth decay began in the 1940s and is now applied to water supplying 6% of the global population, including two-thirds of Americans on public water.."
"Fluorite mining, which supplies most global fluorine, peaked in 1989 when 5.6 million metric tons of ore were extracted." " ( It costs only US$5–8 per kilogram as uranium or sulfur hexafluoride, )"
(NO worryes, from that, only 5% is used for Water fluaritation
.. that is 280 000 TONNS)
Heeeey... its like these hippies are on to something in here... maybe.
kind of kreepy... lets look what more can we read from ensoclopedya...
"Fluorocarbon gases are generally greenhouse gases, with global-warming potentials 100 to 20,000 times that of carbon dioxide."
Hey Al Core.. what about that...
" Organofluorines persist in the environment due to the strength of the carbon–fluorine bond. The health impact of the most persistent of such compounds is unclear."
really... how come...
" A few plants and bacteria synthesize organofluorine poisons for defense against herbivores. Fluorine has no known metabolic role in mammals."
Hey... are we kind of like mammals..
It should also mess around of our body production of DMT... but scientists also have not jet make clear it seems... what for DMT is in all ower nature and why humans need it...
(Soviets REALLY liked it as well i heard... a lot..... )
----
But just to calm you a bit
"Fluorine is the thirteenth most common element in Earth's crust at 600–700 ppm by mass. Free elemental fluorine in Earth's atmosphere would easily react with rocks, precluding its natural occurrence; it is found only in minerals, of which fluorite, fluorapatite and cryolite are most industrially significant"
Fluorite or fluorspar (CaF
2), colorful and abundant worldwide, is fluorine's primary source with China and Mexico as its major suppliers. The U.S. led production in the early 20th century but ceased mining in 1995.
Fluorapatite (Ca5(PO4)3F) and other apatites are much exploited for fertilizer phosphates. Although it contains most terrestrial fluorine, the low mass fraction of 3.5% leads to its disposal, except in the U.S. where it is used for water fluoridation
-----------
About 30% of agrochemicals contain fluorine, ...
trifluralin, with large-scale use against weeds in the U.S. but it is a suspected carcinogen and many European countries have banned it.[
Sodium monofluoroacetate (1080) is a mammalian poison where two acetic acid hydrogens are replaced with fluorine and sodium, halting cell metabolism by replacing citric acid cycle acetate. First synthesized in the late 19th century, it was recognized as an insecticide in the early 20th and later deployed in its current use, with its largest consumer New Zealand using it to PROTECT kiwis from the invasive Australian common brushtail possum. Europe and the U.S. have banned 1080
-----
Yeah... we know chemistry is not working so dangerosly... but anyway, it does seem freaky for many to ask WHY we started to produce that when civilisations before us was able to be withe out it...
"...20% of modern pharmaceuticals contain fluorine,..."
"..About 30% of agrochemicals contain fluorine,.."
"...Hydrofluoric acid is a contact poison with greater hazards than many strong acids like sulfuric acid.."
"A former major cause of fluoride poisoning was the accidental ingestion of insecticides with inorganic fluorides, most current cases involving fluoride toothpaste swallowing instead.Malfunctioning water fluoridation equipment is another cause"
Read that one now:
" .. Fluoride can occur naturally in water in concentrations well above recommended levels, which can have several long-term adverse effects, including severe dental fluorosis, skeletal fluorosis, and weakened bones ... "
.... nothing to see here... lets continnue...
"...The World Health Organization says fluoridation is an effective way to prevent tooth decay in poor communities..."
(u know, like USA... where 2/3th of water in some arias..)
"Most countries in Europe have experienced substantial declines in cavities without the use of water fluoridation.For example, in Finland and Germany, tooth decay rates remained stable or continued to decline after water fluoridation stopped."
OKey... Europeans must be another breed maybe...
"Soluble fluorides are moderately toxic with 5–10 g sodium fluoride, or 32–64 mg fluoride ions per kilogram of body mass, a lethal dose for adults. One-fifth of this can cause adverse health effects"
(what was the TONNS of production of it again... ? Humans are awesame!)
Real life conspiracy theoryes
" Opposition to fluoridation has existed since its initiation in the 1940s.[2] During the 1950s and 1960s, some opponents of water fluoridation suggested that fluoridation was a communist plot to undermine public health. .." (communist means any five star liker... star people...)
And a bit ironic humor to the end as well
" The fluoridation of public water has been hailed by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control as one of the top medical achievements of the 20th century. It is ranked No. 9 on this list ahead of "Recognition of tobacco use as a health hazard." "
And a bit ironic humor to the end as well
" The fluoridation of public water has been hailed by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control as one of the top medical achievements of the 20th century. It is ranked No. 9 on this list ahead of "Recognition of tobacco use as a health hazard." "
"#Fluorine is an extremely reactive and poisonous chemical element with atomic number 9. The lightest halogen and most electronegative element, it exists as a pale yellow diatomic gas at standard conditions. BUT
"Almost all other elements, including some noble gases, form compounds with fluorine."
SO,
"First poposed as an element in 1810, fluorine proved difficult and dangerous to separate from its compounds, with several early experimenters dying or sustaining injuries in their attempts to do so. In 1886, French chemist Henri Moissan succeeded in isolating elemental fluorine using low-temperature electrolysis, a process still employed in modern-day production." .... production ?
ok...
"Organic fluorides have very high chemical and thermal stability and are used in refrigerants, cookware, and electrical insulation. Pharmaceuticals such as atorvastatin and fluoxetine contain fluorine, and the fluoride ion, which inhibits dental cavities, is used in toothpaste and water fluoridation. Uranium enrichment, the largest application for free fluorine, began during the Manhattan Project (Atomic Bomb) in World War II. Global fluorochemical sales amount to over US$15 billion a year." ..
"...controlled public water supply fluoridation against tooth decay began in the 1940s and is now applied to water supplying 6% of the global population, including two-thirds of Americans on public water.."
"Fluorite mining, which supplies most global fluorine, peaked in 1989 when 5.6 million metric tons of ore were extracted." " ( It costs only US$5–8 per kilogram as uranium or sulfur hexafluoride, )"
(NO worryes, from that, only 5% is used for Water fluaritation
.. that is 280 000 TONNS)
Heeeey... its like these hippies are on to something in here... maybe.
kind of kreepy... lets look what more can we read from ensoclopedya...
"Fluorocarbon gases are generally greenhouse gases, with global-warming potentials 100 to 20,000 times that of carbon dioxide."
Hey Al Core.. what about that...
" Organofluorines persist in the environment due to the strength of the carbon–fluorine bond. The health impact of the most persistent of such compounds is unclear."
really... how come...
" A few plants and bacteria synthesize organofluorine poisons for defense against herbivores. Fluorine has no known metabolic role in mammals."
Hey... are we kind of like mammals..
It should also mess around of our body production of DMT... but scientists also have not jet make clear it seems... what for DMT is in all ower nature and why humans need it...
(Soviets REALLY liked it as well i heard... a lot..... )
----
But just to calm you a bit
"Fluorine is the thirteenth most common element in Earth's crust at 600–700 ppm by mass. Free elemental fluorine in Earth's atmosphere would easily react with rocks, precluding its natural occurrence; it is found only in minerals, of which fluorite, fluorapatite and cryolite are most industrially significant"
Fluorite or fluorspar (CaF
2), colorful and abundant worldwide, is fluorine's primary source with China and Mexico as its major suppliers. The U.S. led production in the early 20th century but ceased mining in 1995.
Fluorapatite (Ca5(PO4)3F) and other apatites are much exploited for fertilizer phosphates. Although it contains most terrestrial fluorine, the low mass fraction of 3.5% leads to its disposal, except in the U.S. where it is used for water fluoridation
-----------
About 30% of agrochemicals contain fluorine, ...
trifluralin, with large-scale use against weeds in the U.S. but it is a suspected carcinogen and many European countries have banned it.[
Sodium monofluoroacetate (1080) is a mammalian poison where two acetic acid hydrogens are replaced with fluorine and sodium, halting cell metabolism by replacing citric acid cycle acetate. First synthesized in the late 19th century, it was recognized as an insecticide in the early 20th and later deployed in its current use, with its largest consumer New Zealand using it to PROTECT kiwis from the invasive Australian common brushtail possum. Europe and the U.S. have banned 1080
-----
Yeah... we know chemistry is not working so dangerosly... but anyway, it does seem freaky for many to ask WHY we started to produce that when civilisations before us was able to be withe out it...
"...20% of modern pharmaceuticals contain fluorine,..."
"..About 30% of agrochemicals contain fluorine,.."
"...Hydrofluoric acid is a contact poison with greater hazards than many strong acids like sulfuric acid.."
"A former major cause of fluoride poisoning was the accidental ingestion of insecticides with inorganic fluorides, most current cases involving fluoride toothpaste swallowing instead.Malfunctioning water fluoridation equipment is another cause"
Read that one now:
" .. Fluoride can occur naturally in water in concentrations well above recommended levels, which can have several long-term adverse effects, including severe dental fluorosis, skeletal fluorosis, and weakened bones ... "
.... nothing to see here... lets continnue...
"...The World Health Organization says fluoridation is an effective way to prevent tooth decay in poor communities..."
(u know, like USA... where 2/3th of water in some arias..)
"Most countries in Europe have experienced substantial declines in cavities without the use of water fluoridation.For example, in Finland and Germany, tooth decay rates remained stable or continued to decline after water fluoridation stopped."
OKey... Europeans must be another breed maybe...
"Soluble fluorides are moderately toxic with 5–10 g sodium fluoride, or 32–64 mg fluoride ions per kilogram of body mass, a lethal dose for adults. One-fifth of this can cause adverse health effects"
(what was the TONNS of production of it again... ? Humans are awesame!)
Real life conspiracy theoryes
" Opposition to fluoridation has existed since its initiation in the 1940s.[2] During the 1950s and 1960s, some opponents of water fluoridation suggested that fluoridation was a communist plot to undermine public health. .." (communist means any five star liker... star people...)
And a bit ironic humor to the end as well
" The fluoridation of public water has been hailed by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control as one of the top medical achievements of the 20th century. It is ranked No. 9 on this list ahead of "Recognition of tobacco use as a health hazard." "
And a bit ironic humor to the end as well
" The fluoridation of public water has been hailed by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control as one of the top medical achievements of the 20th century. It is ranked No. 9 on this list ahead of "Recognition of tobacco use as a health hazard." "
13 July 2014 01:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
ONce more:
You know... most sad in funny ways is that all these people who laught right now about her hippi list about "toxins" ... well, me really does hope they also are able to see in some time, what truth she did told at large at least about questioning what you eat and beliving that your country is so free, that the food and media is not inflatrated jet,,... (yeah, might it be possible, that IF any stronger country is inflatrated by NO GOOD... that THEN... "they" need to keep some wars and danger and finace crash going on "somewhere near" or people start to evolve in to the mind set that She and He is talkng abut actually... nothing trastically new for religious people of course)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69JVAr_RN1Q&list=PLB33CE7D38CDD7387&index=11
main trick about it all is to trick you away from bible, to realise that SHE is ... door to heaven
You know... most sad in funny ways is that all these people who laught right now about her hippi list about "toxins" ... well, me really does hope they also are able to see in some time, what truth she did told at large at least about questioning what you eat and beliving that your country is so free, that the food and media is not inflatrated jet,,... (yeah, might it be possible, that IF any stronger country is inflatrated by NO GOOD... that THEN... "they" need to keep some wars and danger and finace crash going on "somewhere near" or people start to evolve in to the mind set that She and He is talkng abut actually... nothing trastically new for religious people of course)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69JVAr_RN1Q&list=PLB33CE7D38CDD7387&index=11
main trick about it all is to trick you away from bible, to realise that SHE is ... door to heaven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69JVAr_RN1Q&list=PLB33CE7D38CDD7387&index=11
13 July 2014 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Aww : )
13 July 2014 00:31
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
The reactions in this thread ...
12 July 2014 19:51
Margus Meigo commented on Marta Leen Volar's post.
oih, mul on käsi lapse näo ees :(
12 July 2014 15:15
Margus Meigo commented on Classical Studies & Ancient History's photo.
Perhaps he is filledwith holy spirit so no brain needed for that .. : )
12 July 2014 11:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
am can send the vamp picture to you as well if ya ask...
12 July 2014 06:45
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
if people would know how to co operate with this plant then would be alright... ..ya know..learn from shamans whats up with her spirit and desires..
she has shownus how to make it all legal... but to many of us still.. just smokes... mokes... smokes...
she has shownus how to make it all legal... but to many of us still.. just smokes... mokes... smokes...
12 July 2014 06:13
Margus Meigo commented on DoSomething.org's photo.
actually there is something like that under some streets..
12 July 2014 06:10
Margus Meigo commented on Rene Rumberg's photo.
Really waffle : )
12 July 2014 06:09
Margus Meigo commented on Larry G. Wilson's post.
yeah, share to show u do not care :D
12 July 2014 06:07
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
We are really, actually
We just need more women to join in as well...
We just need more women to join in as well...
12 July 2014 06:06
Margus Meigo commented on Larry G. Wilson's post.
considering army got ower a trillion in a year...
12 July 2014 06:01
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's post.
Amazing
12 July 2014 05:57
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
she can get better dress
12 July 2014 05:49
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
Kuidagi ei saa like sellele panna, kuid tähistama tuleks ikka :D
12 July 2014 05:45
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
Am still confused.. do am need to remove child made just in china or also other country ones??? Where is manual!
12 July 2014 05:43
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Good ones Tom!
12 July 2014 05:42
Margus Meigo commented on Gildon R Turner's post.
Religious Shamanic Nationalist
12 July 2014 05:41
Margus Meigo commented on Gildon R Turner's post.
money (first was kind of like my name and last name...), happiness, experience .... freedom...
12 July 2014 04:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
You cannot talk about the macronutrient protein without dealing with two spheres of ideology that more often than not end in contention. That is, the ethical and religious debates of whether humans should be eating animals.
It is clear that God’s original plan for the earth’s complex ecosystem was that all living things would live as herbivores, including man. Humankind would have a multitude of colorful delicious fruits, seeds, nuts and vegetables to eat from. Not a bad menu really, and you can bet the unadulterated palate welcomed the sweet living foods that hung heavy on limb and branch. According to the scriptures it would be true to say that Adam and Eve were vegan vegetarians and this was the ideal diet God had originally designed for humans to eat.
“Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything. But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it.”
Genesis 9:3-4
After the Fall, everything changed, God introduced a new ecosystem where death and decay became a part of the natural cycle of life. In this new world, the life of one living thing depended on the death of another. Trees would fall to the ground and rot, providing food for their lofty children. Predators killed prey. This new ecosystem became a dynamic allegory, pointing to the Second Adam, Jesus, who would die so all humankind could have eternal life.
Some would say “amen” to this and conclude that it is not a sin to eat meat but assert it cannot be God’s best for us. Their message is subtle: vegetarianism is closer to Eden, therefore a little more spiritual than a diet which includes meat.
"Peter went up on the roof to pray. He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat." "Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean." The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean." This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven."
Acts 10: 9-16
The above scripture ought to be the last word on the biblical question of meat eating. God Himself has made all things clean to eat. Eating meat does not make you less spiritual, but judging the guy beside you who is enjoying his pork chop is another matter. I have done enough of that and I can tell you from experience, judging darkens the heart and separates us from the Spirit of grace.
Romans 14 says it all. Read it carefully, it’s a wonderful passage that, if applied, will result in Churches full of freedom and worship. Here are some excerpts:
"One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God."
Romans 14:5-6
Romans 14 says a lot of important things. It says you should not judge someone’s form of devotion to God just because it differs from yours. It says worship is an expression of heartfelt conviction, not a robotic theological act. It says worship is profoundly individual, at times private, between God and His child, so mind your own worship. It says love is more important than religious freedom. It says, “All food is clean.”
// Yeah... but MEAT is not a food, or animal is not a food... just small note : )
// And yes... this might be a bit of trap of... that waht is mentioned in this video... but still, worth the risk maybe ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsEj1-MHl94 (Trik kus Sind pannakse valesti reageerima)
...if any rick is worth... anything
http://www.freedomyou.com/what_does_the_bible_say_about_eating_meat_freedomyou.aspx
Not jut good people have good or strong information about what is happening, jes?
It is clear that God’s original plan for the earth’s complex ecosystem was that all living things would live as herbivores, including man. Humankind would have a multitude of colorful delicious fruits, seeds, nuts and vegetables to eat from. Not a bad menu really, and you can bet the unadulterated palate welcomed the sweet living foods that hung heavy on limb and branch. According to the scriptures it would be true to say that Adam and Eve were vegan vegetarians and this was the ideal diet God had originally designed for humans to eat.
“Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything. But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it.”
Genesis 9:3-4
After the Fall, everything changed, God introduced a new ecosystem where death and decay became a part of the natural cycle of life. In this new world, the life of one living thing depended on the death of another. Trees would fall to the ground and rot, providing food for their lofty children. Predators killed prey. This new ecosystem became a dynamic allegory, pointing to the Second Adam, Jesus, who would die so all humankind could have eternal life.
Some would say “amen” to this and conclude that it is not a sin to eat meat but assert it cannot be God’s best for us. Their message is subtle: vegetarianism is closer to Eden, therefore a little more spiritual than a diet which includes meat.
"Peter went up on the roof to pray. He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat." "Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean." The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean." This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven."
Acts 10: 9-16
The above scripture ought to be the last word on the biblical question of meat eating. God Himself has made all things clean to eat. Eating meat does not make you less spiritual, but judging the guy beside you who is enjoying his pork chop is another matter. I have done enough of that and I can tell you from experience, judging darkens the heart and separates us from the Spirit of grace.
Romans 14 says it all. Read it carefully, it’s a wonderful passage that, if applied, will result in Churches full of freedom and worship. Here are some excerpts:
"One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God."
Romans 14:5-6
Romans 14 says a lot of important things. It says you should not judge someone’s form of devotion to God just because it differs from yours. It says worship is an expression of heartfelt conviction, not a robotic theological act. It says worship is profoundly individual, at times private, between God and His child, so mind your own worship. It says love is more important than religious freedom. It says, “All food is clean.”
// Yeah... but MEAT is not a food, or animal is not a food... just small note : )
// And yes... this might be a bit of trap of... that waht is mentioned in this video... but still, worth the risk maybe ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsEj1-MHl94 (Trik kus Sind pannakse valesti reageerima)
...if any rick is worth... anything
http://www.freedomyou.com/what_does_the_bible_say_about_eating_meat_freedomyou.aspx
Not jut good people have good or strong information about what is happening, jes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsEj1-MHl94
12 July 2014 02:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Nii võimatu ilma ühegi härda tundeta päriselt seda kuulata https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbdJ6Zglxxo&index=27&list=RDw5E9ZC-N0wU nii ilus!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbdJ6Zglxxo&index=27&list=RDw5E9ZC-N0wU
12 July 2014 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
so yeah..
Genesis 1:29; And God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. (yes I know, the ones who know they know and the ones who do not think "well, this is JUST a qotation from Bible " ... )
http://blog.swiatoslaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/DSC_3449.jpg
... like to find things from places around... this qote was from animalliberationfront.com
Genesis 1:29; And God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. (yes I know, the ones who know they know and the ones who do not think "well, this is JUST a qotation from Bible " ... )
http://blog.swiatoslaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/DSC_3449.jpg
... like to find things from places around... this qote was from animalliberationfront.com
http://blog.swiatoslaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/DSC_3449.jpg
12 July 2014 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mBd7eD0M9Q&list=RDw5E9ZC-N0wU&index=24https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mBd7eD0M9Q&list=RDw5E9ZC-N0wU&index=24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mBd7eD0M9Q&list=RDw5E9ZC-N0wU&index=24https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mBd7eD0M9Q&list=RDw5E9ZC-N0wU&index=24
12 July 2014 01:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC51JhPtkMo&list=RDw5E9ZC-N0wU&index=27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC51JhPtkMo&list=RDw5E9ZC-N0wU&index=27
12 July 2014 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on Ester Luiga's post.
Yeah, now make this list for proper eaters, vegaterians (no need to argue if we should eat any meat, no we should not, its religious matter:D ..)
ehh.. miks ma inglise keeles räägin..
Aniway, et kuidas see siis välja näeks...
Inimestel hoopis muu küsimus on MIKS meil selliste toodete söömise tunded on ja mis siis oleks kui poleks end harjutanud nende sõltuvustega.
Ning mis vaimumaailmale kasulikud on mida meid sööma tõmmata....
Muidugi ise just alustan vist kolmandat portsu taluvõi ja õliga praetud spagette... kuid see selleks, :D
... trumm jahust ja panin õuna sisse, tervislik küll :p
ehh.. miks ma inglise keeles räägin..
Aniway, et kuidas see siis välja näeks...
Inimestel hoopis muu küsimus on MIKS meil selliste toodete söömise tunded on ja mis siis oleks kui poleks end harjutanud nende sõltuvustega.
Ning mis vaimumaailmale kasulikud on mida meid sööma tõmmata....
Muidugi ise just alustan vist kolmandat portsu taluvõi ja õliga praetud spagette... kuid see selleks, :D
... trumm jahust ja panin õuna sisse, tervislik küll :p
12 July 2014 00:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGvBvPEMJ8M&list=RDw5E9ZC-N0wU&index=23 LaliluLii... : )
Küsida ikka võib, miks see siia sobib
Küsida ikka võib, miks see siia sobib
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGvBvPEMJ8M&list=RDw5E9ZC-N0wU&index=23
12 July 2014 00:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Russia - She feels Her
tenderness really : )11 July 2014 12:49
Margus Meigo commented on Margus Rump's post.
Group: Nostalgiamuuseum
Suht tõsi ja päris reaalne tekst tegelikult, kindlasti tuleks alkoholi tarbjad enne narkoloogi ja psüholoogi juurde viia kui hippid :D11 July 2014 01:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.archinode.com/fab-tree-hab-7.html
http://www.archinode.com/fab-tree-hab-7.html
11 July 2014 01:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
real communication, not some imaginary invisible.. self imagination of order.. but proper wibration of body @ 42 some might thik to say ... who needs what more... we nature or nature us ?
How difficult can it be to see bible in proper ways people ?
..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjz9nt-vjDY&index=5&list=PLB57340559C4030E0
How difficult can it be to see bible in proper ways people ?
..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjz9nt-vjDY&index=5&list=PLB57340559C4030E0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjz9nt-vjDY&index=5&list=PLB57340559C4030E0
10 July 2014 05:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Our ancestors asked promission from the three to sleep under it, up to now, also advice what kind of house They want us to build in woods...
As mentioned in Meri documetnarys as well.. this IS normal for us
As mentioned in Meri documetnarys as well.. this IS normal for us
10 July 2014 05:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Music to play with it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DG6eiEy0Xw&index=1&list=PLB57340559C4030E0
Thoughts next to it from our president https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xq_x_qpPXxs#t=2670
Thoughts next to it from our president https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xq_x_qpPXxs#t=2670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DG6eiEy0Xw&index=1&list=PLB57340559C4030E0
10 July 2014 04:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Thoughts next to it from our president https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xq_x_qpPXxs#t=2670
Music to play with it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DG6eiEy0Xw&index=1&list=PLB57340559C4030E0
Music to play with it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DG6eiEy0Xw&index=1&list=PLB57340559C4030E0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xq_x_qpPXxs#t=2670
10 July 2014 04:50
Margus Meigo commented on João Mirage's post.
Group: Ayahuasca
Just remeber, in the end.. all stays :)
Let people in the movie who talked to be your guide... is more important how much love you put in to it. Up to now i have seen only ONE mushroom documetary that was real...
Rest your mind, Take look once this documentary about Lennard Meri https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq_x_qpPXxs ... once you have looked it, you will be prepared for some important things as well, that our minds in these days might not be prepared. As we forgot the religion... that means spiritual thinking,
Its made by real cultural upper class people, except one yong guy in the end... they all sensire there but are telling some serious things with out seriousness (as drama and action is something alien for our people)
once you get to the communist party and movie cutting part you know why me asked to see it, ... he also documented some rare shamans. These was the days when you might end your life by just filming shaman or anyone that appears to proove that we can live withe out system... or that there was any life before system.. ....star people are star people...
Now same people "allow" us to film and share most, but have more up to dated ways to make unwanted not seen by people, ... but stay real... if you make something good, it will come to open large view when time is right. Only thing you can do is your best for this time period.
Take mostly literally what shamas tell you. Most higgest possible way.
lissten more people who are interested about content of the movie more then the lenght, movie can be easily unlimited hours when shamans talking,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq_x_qpPXxs
10 July 2014 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on João Mirage's post.
Group: Ayahuasca
Whou, this is great material,
I hope you will upload all the video material to Yahoo,
We have 1 TB account now, its about 1000 full 2 hours movies lenght space ... please share any comment that people made on video.. all of it is way important actually9 July 2014 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"I am a Nazirite….Your Joseph wants you to be happy in all your desires. I do not love you with my body. I love you with my soul, holy girl given to me by god! Please see in me a father and a brother, in addition to a husband. And open your heart to me as to a father and rely on me as on a brother….I will join my sacrifice to yours and we shall love the eternal Father so much with our chastity that He will send His Savior to the world earlier, and will allow us to see His Light shining in the world(V.1, Ch.12, P.65). A Nazirite was somebody who took the vow of celibacy, and when Mary heard that Joseph was a Nazirite, her face became bright and she took courage.
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/mary-mother-of-god
Introduction
This article is based on my readings about Virgin Mary in the books 'The Poem of the Man-God' by Maria Valtorta and 'The Signs of the Times' by Benny Punnathura.
'The Poem of the Man-God' is full of the visions received by the author starting with the life of Mary's parents, focused on the life of Jesus and ending with Mary's assumption and the Acts of the Apostles. That book reveals several of the unknown mysteries of God through visions. It consists of five volumes in five thousand pages in English and has been translated into several languages. This book will definitely bring us closer to God and will enhance our spirituality. The visions elaborate the events in the New Testament with appropriate occasions and settings which make it more concrete.
'The Signs of the Times' was written with reference to fourteen other books. It focuses on Mary's evangelization of the world through messages given to more than three hundred people around the world through visions and apparitions. The messages about anti-Christ, God's final clearance through three days of darkness, and the pouring of the Holy Spirit are the most appealing mysteries in that book. Reading of that book will enable us to prepare ourselves for the end.
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/mary-mother-of-god
Introduction
This article is based on my readings about Virgin Mary in the books 'The Poem of the Man-God' by Maria Valtorta and 'The Signs of the Times' by Benny Punnathura.
'The Poem of the Man-God' is full of the visions received by the author starting with the life of Mary's parents, focused on the life of Jesus and ending with Mary's assumption and the Acts of the Apostles. That book reveals several of the unknown mysteries of God through visions. It consists of five volumes in five thousand pages in English and has been translated into several languages. This book will definitely bring us closer to God and will enhance our spirituality. The visions elaborate the events in the New Testament with appropriate occasions and settings which make it more concrete.
'The Signs of the Times' was written with reference to fourteen other books. It focuses on Mary's evangelization of the world through messages given to more than three hundred people around the world through visions and apparitions. The messages about anti-Christ, God's final clearance through three days of darkness, and the pouring of the Holy Spirit are the most appealing mysteries in that book. Reading of that book will enable us to prepare ourselves for the end.
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/mary-mother-of-god
9 July 2014 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Meigo's post.
Kas tead kus see pilt tehtud on ka?
9 July 2014 00:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
6 July 2014 03:56
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
Väga kena!
5 July 2014 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Sobib siia kui suts tunnetada https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYzOCdy_MT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYzOCdy_MT8
5 July 2014 23:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
To Cylons from man of Estonia who know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYzOCdy_MT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYzOCdy_MT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYzOCdy_MT8
5 July 2014 23:18
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
Can you imagine actually, some people live so strange life, that they think them sef have no time or interest to explore bodys..
If yu would know Estonian would send this song to ya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0s8xhaiy6c
They have some OTHER song as well, lyrics go something like that
"SHe is not an ordinary
woman
others as they are
hips, breasts
hair
as well as a nice face
SHe is not an ordinary woman
it is not at all
sex appeal
SHe has no desire in sight
at much
Also, being at the bar
She is sober
Poor thing, he does not know
that men
Women do not like sober
He takes us to the end
so far
to say
get lost here, nun
Your place is not here "
This is one of the universty high class music groups in here.
The Naine lyrics gos like that:
woman
Know your body
your boy
and what to do
woman
You're a nice
stalking you
hungryly
woman
I want to be yours
I'm yours
You and me
woman
It is a beautiful word
wiser and more
as the proverb
Naine ...
woman
remind me of my mother
as good
as nice
woman
However, you are more
however, thousands
of times more
woman
head would stick to the fire
because of you
would do gray things
woman
stars shining for you (translated by google as "letters transparent to you")
when you come
then come to me
Women (translated by google as "I am a woman ..." )
ONe other song translation:
"I see that you sit and watch what I'm doing
think you're the devil but not yet
you have to look at though is shameless and dense network
but it seems that the trap is weak
I understand you were trying but I am afraid that you have to to disappoint
you do not have it (you are not "this")
Who are you fooling, or look for what you're doing
whether you're looking for happiness, or anything else you're looking for
Your body is poetry and way of walking
is a delightful but whatever
You understand, I'll try but I'm afraid you have to be disappointed
you are not "this"
This smoke is in your hands too long
Your right cheek is a lovely bulge
you are a sensual voice, however, is the strange tale
You have a beautiful body but have the scent of a stranger
will meet in future, on the ball we
do as we do not feel as I have not yet dear to you
you drink and dance and laugh together
However, the following is the story of like lucky lottery
and not matter whether it makes sense or does not have
because you do not have it (you are not the one)
This smoke is in your hands too long
Your right cheek has a lovely toru
you are a sensual voice, however, is the strange tale
You have a beautiful body but have the scent of a stranger..."
They have many other great kyrics, would love to go throught with you them,,, or with someone like you who is interested about importance of building mind bridges
If yu would know Estonian would send this song to ya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0s8xhaiy6c
They have some OTHER song as well, lyrics go something like that
"SHe is not an ordinary
woman
others as they are
hips, breasts
hair
as well as a nice face
SHe is not an ordinary woman
it is not at all
sex appeal
SHe has no desire in sight
at much
Also, being at the bar
She is sober
Poor thing, he does not know
that men
Women do not like sober
He takes us to the end
so far
to say
get lost here, nun
Your place is not here "
This is one of the universty high class music groups in here.
The Naine lyrics gos like that:
woman
Know your body
your boy
and what to do
woman
You're a nice
stalking you
hungryly
woman
I want to be yours
I'm yours
You and me
woman
It is a beautiful word
wiser and more
as the proverb
Naine ...
woman
remind me of my mother
as good
as nice
woman
However, you are more
however, thousands
of times more
woman
head would stick to the fire
because of you
would do gray things
woman
stars shining for you (translated by google as "letters transparent to you")
when you come
then come to me
Women (translated by google as "I am a woman ..." )
ONe other song translation:
"I see that you sit and watch what I'm doing
think you're the devil but not yet
you have to look at though is shameless and dense network
but it seems that the trap is weak
I understand you were trying but I am afraid that you have to to disappoint
you do not have it (you are not "this")
Who are you fooling, or look for what you're doing
whether you're looking for happiness, or anything else you're looking for
Your body is poetry and way of walking
is a delightful but whatever
You understand, I'll try but I'm afraid you have to be disappointed
you are not "this"
This smoke is in your hands too long
Your right cheek is a lovely bulge
you are a sensual voice, however, is the strange tale
You have a beautiful body but have the scent of a stranger
will meet in future, on the ball we
do as we do not feel as I have not yet dear to you
you drink and dance and laugh together
However, the following is the story of like lucky lottery
and not matter whether it makes sense or does not have
because you do not have it (you are not the one)
This smoke is in your hands too long
Your right cheek has a lovely toru
you are a sensual voice, however, is the strange tale
You have a beautiful body but have the scent of a stranger..."
They have many other great kyrics, would love to go throught with you them,,, or with someone like you who is interested about importance of building mind bridges
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0s8xhaiy6c
5 July 2014 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on Tingel Tangel's link.
NU ta saab kohe endale varsti palju fänne juurde sest postitasin https://www.facebook.com/The.Russian.Federation lehele mille läbi vaadatuvus on 4 millionit venemeelset : ))
facebook.com
Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia
5 July 2014 22:35
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
Toucing yourself?
5 July 2014 22:21
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's photo.
Doodle, what that even means
5 July 2014 22:17
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's photo.
You should also scan them in liberry with 600pp at least, would be great web material for people as it will scan in the small parts of paper as well
5 July 2014 22:17
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's photo.
THis is awesame as well!
5 July 2014 22:16
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's photo.
this is worst thing to ask on places like that... but does these have names as well? : )
5 July 2014 22:12
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
Communism
5 July 2014 22:11
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
Like what ?
5 July 2014 22:10
Margus Meigo commented on Tingel Tangel's post.
Aap, Olen ikka.
Hmm. Üks teine eesti nõukogudeaegne film tuli meelde kus to mõtlikult vastas, et "tulevikus on aeg kus naistel habemed ja meestel seelikud" ...
Hmm. Üks teine eesti nõukogudeaegne film tuli meelde kus to mõtlikult vastas, et "tulevikus on aeg kus naistel habemed ja meestel seelikud" ...
5 July 2014 21:59
Margus Meigo commented on Tingel Tangel's post.
lihtsalt nagu midagi väga imelikku toimub üle maa igasuguste vabaduste ära kasutamisega (st, et nagu tundub kellegi karvane käsi tekitab eri huvi gruppe üle ilma mida segadusse ajamiseks kasutatakse)
Ei oskagi praegu väljendada mida silmas täpsemalt pean, ilma eris kummalistesse mõtetesse laskumata
Ei oskagi praegu väljendada mida silmas täpsemalt pean, ilma eris kummalistesse mõtetesse laskumata
5 July 2014 21:53
Margus Meigo commented on Tingel Tangel's post.
jeerum, eks see noh ole meelega tehtud.
Väga oluline on sügavale jutule minna veidrate inimestega, ja uurida kui teadlikult ja miks nad sellistes riietes või üritusel on, et avastada kas avaliku pildi rikkuja, provokaator või tõepoolest selline huvitav varjant.....
Kus see oli? : )
Väga oluline on sügavale jutule minna veidrate inimestega, ja uurida kui teadlikult ja miks nad sellistes riietes või üritusel on, et avastada kas avaliku pildi rikkuja, provokaator või tõepoolest selline huvitav varjant.....
Kus see oli? : )
5 July 2014 21:47
Margus Meigo commented on Tingel Tangel's post.
Mis mõttes... see oligi habemega naine v... ?
5 July 2014 21:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Edison how come you can read Estonian :D
5 July 2014 20:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Oi näe, ja kohe kui seda postitasin siis keegi kaas administraator kohe kustutas mind administraatori kohalt ja viskas gruppist ka välja :D
Hakkab soojaks minema kus asuvad need kes progressi takistavad : )
Õnneks kõike nägev silm teab mida keegi teeb nauinii.. : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga0TN5C9-os
Hakkab soojaks minema kus asuvad need kes progressi takistavad : )
Õnneks kõike nägev silm teab mida keegi teeb nauinii.. : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga0TN5C9-os
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga0TN5C9-os
5 July 2014 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Nii kui kanepi legaliseerimise foorumis selles postitada midagi mis päriselt selgitab kanepi olemust, siis need postid kas kiirelt viiakse spämmiga alla või eemaldatakse kui muu ei aita.
Kuid eks me jätkame asjade postitamist mis oluline, ega muud üle jää : )
See juba mitmes sarnane juhtum viimasel kuul.
Kui suvalisi ajalehe arutlusi ja uuringuid postitada lipsuga inimeste teadusest siis on ok, kui aga kirjutada seda mida inimesed räägivad kes taimi sadu ja tuhandeid aastaid otse kogemusena ise õppinud - siis see on liig....
Kuid jätkame.. postitan uuesti :)
Kuid eks me jätkame asjade postitamist mis oluline, ega muud üle jää : )
See juba mitmes sarnane juhtum viimasel kuul.
Kui suvalisi ajalehe arutlusi ja uuringuid postitada lipsuga inimeste teadusest siis on ok, kui aga kirjutada seda mida inimesed räägivad kes taimi sadu ja tuhandeid aastaid otse kogemusena ise õppinud - siis see on liig....
Kuid jätkame.. postitan uuesti :)
5 July 2014 20:37
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's album.
Yeah... thats how our worlds more look...
5 July 2014 15:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/rohelised/
5 July 2014 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on Käru kommuun's post.
Palju ilusaid pilte ka tol lehel https://plus.google.com/photos/112873018431118086041/albums/6030841781273567297?banner=pwa
https://plus.google.com/photos/112873018431118086041/albums/6030841781273567297?banner=pwa
5 July 2014 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on Märt Heinsoo's post.
Group: Kanepiseemnete turg
KIndlalt hoitke teineteisel koopia kõikidest liikmetest ka, et kui kustutatakse, siis meil pole "mingit vahet" ja jätkame elu... nuh... eks see arvuti asi nagunii oli lihtsalt mugavuse "lisa" millega alatiseks harjuda pole vaja3 July 2014 22:36
Margus Meigo commented on Raili Sule's post.
Group: Ei orjapidamisele Eestis
Ugandas umbes 2 eurot KUUS, miinimum palk (what?)
Kuubas umbes 100 eurot AASTAS,
Uzbekid ka umbes 600 eurot aastas
Gruusia umbes 50 kuni 70 Eurot KUUS
Indias 2 dollarit päevas (mis 30korda rohkem kui Ugandas...)
Ukrainas opetajad saavad umbes 90 eurot kuus
Eesti saab veel rohkem kui Hungari, Slovakkia, Tsehhid, Tshiili, Lati, Leedu, Basiilia, Jamaika, Romania, Thai, Serbia, Kuveit, Kaks KORDA rohkem kui venemaa, Mehiko, Filipiinid, Indoneesia... saame rohkem palka kui enamus riigid ja inimesed maailmas saame. Kõvasti rohkem
Ning kindlalt ka ühte kõrgemat palka võrreldes nende teise riikidega keda nõukogu väed rüüstanud on.
Muidugi suur ärikatel on teised summad...
Keskmine palk ukrainas on märgitud 170 Eurot kuid see umbes nagu meie krooniaegne 12 000 eegune keskmine palk oli millest enamus und pold näinud.
Võiks veel rääkida, et Rootsi, Norra, Belgia saavad umbes 5 korda rohkem kui meie ja austraalias on miinimum tunni palk 11 eurot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage
Mida me maailmale tava rahvana tootnud oleme kes siin palga pärast virisevad, et meil õigus nõuda oleks ?
Et lasime võõrad väed rahu ajal sisse ning me maa ja toidu hinnad kõrgeks viia, et siis nüüd selle pärast nõuame, et endal oskus kadus ära kuidas oma maal oma süsteemi käima panna, mis olenemata PRAEGUSEST valitsusest ON võimalik.
Mul endal oli vahepeal Eestis 250-350 EEKu tunnis vanasti... noh, ega ma palju ei tõõdanud ka, pold vaja... maksin lolli peaga kõik kalliks üüriks ja jõin mahahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage
3 July 2014 22:22
Margus Meigo commented on Raili Sule's post.
Group: Ei orjapidamisele Eestis
Ega teise rahakotti pole viisakas piiluda, venemaa veel suurem ja kui palju tolles miinimum palk on? Ta ju meie otsene naaber riik kellega kokkupuutunud palju, mis saksamaaga ennast võrdleme.
Hiinas, Mehikos ja Indias pole ka need miinimum palgad niipalju suuremad kui Eestis, tuleb ikka siin reaalselt vaadata mitte võrrelda ennast riigiga kes toodab 30% KOGU EUROOPA põllumajandus saadustest.
Muidugi Ukraina suurriik toodab ka palju kuid mis nood palgad on...
Saan aru, et kunagi püha rahas olime ja saime kõvemat palka kui soome kuid seni kuni me rahast mõtleme, selle väärtuse asemel mis meil VEEL ajutiselt on... seni tullakse ja võetakse veel see ka meilt sellist moodi ära, et isegi võimalus pole seda maad uuesti õitsele panna,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_wages_by_countryhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_wages_by_country
3 July 2014 22:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
é
A letter of the Hungarian alphabet, long e.
A letter of the Hungarian alphabet, long e.
3 July 2014 20:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Juhtub kõik mis juhtuma peab, mis on hea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE6SyQxADGM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE6SyQxADGM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE6SyQxADGM
3 July 2014 18:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ma ka alguses arvasin seda, kuid siis mõtlesin, et sellest pole ju meile kasu, seega mis ta sest ikka vahetab
3 July 2014 18:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu mis tast ikka vahetada, läheb meelest muidu ju
3 July 2014 17:53
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
looks like sim city
2 July 2014 04:38
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's photo.
royal clothes for royal people :p
1 July 2014 05:36
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
We had that idea in Estonia long time ago : ) ... okey, tech matters!
(we start to implement now country wide car charging network to become off oil..)
(we start to implement now country wide car charging network to become off oil..)
1 July 2014 04:19
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
like how we man can be better so women does not have to behave in ways that it looks silly for our mind who is far from accepting what is that, what we can do more, so we can start to see the solutions in the situations that possess man
1 July 2014 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
well. we should still take all that with care and .... what kind of humbleness can we learn from it
1 July 2014 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on Oomas Alt's post.
also they got no iPhone so F#¤%& that!
30 June 2014 22:06
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
These feminists are no so pro woman if they talk about this issue from this point of view,
Go and walk topless as white girl in Moroccan streets with some feminist friends... lets see what that report will bring,.
Go and walk topless as white girl in Moroccan streets with some feminist friends... lets see what that report will bring,.
30 June 2014 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's photo.
true, true
29 June 2014 15:53
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's photo.
For sure
29 June 2014 12:06
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
believers are always blessed : )28 June 2014 21:55
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: UFO UNIVERSAL
There was time when also thought this videos are great, up to the point me realised as our parents, that there is life and high intelligence all around us, specially outside city ... really.28 June 2014 21:38
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: Sirius UFO Research Australia
There was time when also thought this videos are great, up to the point me realised as our parents, that there is life and high intelligence all around us, specially outside city ... really.28 June 2014 21:38
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ufo
There was time when also thought this videos are great, up to the point me realised as our parents, that there is life and high intelligence all around us, specially outside city ... really.28 June 2014 21:38
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: Extra-Terrestrial Races & Civilizations
There was time when also thought this videos are great, up to the point me realised as our parents, that there is life and high intelligence all around us, specially outside city ... really.28 June 2014 21:38
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: UFO UNIVERSAL
Joseph Lockhart My country Calendar is in year 10227 (more then 8000 BC) and we have more then million pages folk information collected and about 40 000 pages old medicine information ... this does not force us to be ignorant of what happened 2000 years ago and even more simply... just LOOK IN TO BIBLE what it says, how it says and WHY it says.
What ever structures Five Star People have took in to usage, matters little to Real religions when people start to obey to commandments of BASIC (as some told....
Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth /
Basic Instructions Becoming Loving Earth)28 June 2014 17:47
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's link.
Jup, remeber the story about the sons of gods who come to earth and took what they pleased ... well, but as long people like lust... is soon hard for humans to know do they have sex with robot, angel or ...
28 June 2014 17:42
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
some of us like to think we are stupid, then world works like that, its kind of like snow ball effect
This is my personal opinion, if there is thing like that
These videos are really in a theme, just THEY are really real as only agenda was to show what is, AFTER we know, in way that future can read what is needed. We depend on Human smartness and kindness ... to full instructions is only needed for some other life forms, Humans can jump to understanding with an instant : )28 June 2014 16:37
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
More updates from people who see that we come from a Bird egg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS8kuHZrN3A (in one with first video, the ones who monitor this group know what We say... with the "Contributed to the collapse of Soviet Union")https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS8kuHZrN3A
28 June 2014 16:33
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
But Country roots findable from among people mentioned here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq_x_qpPXxs and something more am will think how to but in to wordshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq_x_qpPXxs
28 June 2014 16:29
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
Am not needing to know that right now :)28 June 2014 16:27
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
good to know: )28 June 2014 16:26
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
and feelings28 June 2014 16:24
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
Of breed28 June 2014 16:24
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Waffahttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Waffa
28 June 2014 16:23
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
Thats my name backward : )
sounds sugary28 June 2014 16:22
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
Sugram Ogjem, Ma.:.gus (also translation "sweet")28 June 2014 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
Am one of The Meigo28 June 2014 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
I am really unhappy as well, also with Star People
Sooner they start to learn from Humans better for everyone28 June 2014 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
I know them : )28 June 2014 16:17
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
There is thousands of Ways They and Source has communicated with us,
And will keep, as Love is in the Air
as well28 June 2014 16:11
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
Is peace
What they calling for, between Sky and Earth28 June 2014 16:10
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
We Do
As soon as people submit to one God we have peace28 June 2014 16:09
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
Yes We Do
(in planet Earth)28 June 2014 16:06
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
Yeah, sorry for showing off, but will top this with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTAeaebXHgohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTAeaebXHgo
28 June 2014 16:04
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
Its not just what we can teach (as there is a lot) but what we can offer (there is a lot more, not that is only ours to offer...)
But what we got is Soul, that is way be on time and Death borders, in ways that these 400 000 years old would so want to get their hands on it... for starters, we got Love28 June 2014 16:01
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
But all that what i say is with so little of value compared to Truth. Are you even human, do you know what it is and that you can be made to know whatever someone who knows wishes ?28 June 2014 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
WHAT YOU MEAN HAVE THEY HEARD OF GOD??? :D xD
Its not like God would let some retarded species to cross time portal and end up here... or then again, for the ones who we are She might just do that, to see if we, as sheep followers will start to fallow "them" or will start to teach other planetary beings the values of Earth, like what species and sex can do what, when and how, how to Eat not cats and with any cost newer hurt a women.
Ibn Benghazi: There is no questions, all is known : )
This religions are tools for man to find path to a women, to accept the parents and parent of all parents
After that all other wisdom comes, ... All Abraham religions is one, this is a simple one. They are also in to Shamanism. And with that most people in Earth have a bit problem for now. Accepting plants as high species who help to make us.28 June 2014 15:51
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
what kind of alien promo is that :D
28 June 2014 14:35
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's link.
Bible IS first source and proof of extra terrestrials and much more, like dragons and many other beings,
None of "them" can remove religion that is source from us how to find who "they" are,
people have been in contact with other beings WAAAAAY long time ago and in way many places, it will make Religion to rise up properly finally, and we will get back to normal, religious world.
But.... We prefer do do it softly... calmly... in ways that people will realize it themselves.
(:
So search up your bible and start to be a vegan and women loving being as we are made in original
None of "them" can remove religion that is source from us how to find who "they" are,
people have been in contact with other beings WAAAAAY long time ago and in way many places, it will make Religion to rise up properly finally, and we will get back to normal, religious world.
But.... We prefer do do it softly... calmly... in ways that people will realize it themselves.
(:
So search up your bible and start to be a vegan and women loving being as we are made in original
28 June 2014 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: The Alien Empire
Thank You for link!28 June 2014 14:33
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: The Alien Empire
Bible IS first source and proof of extra terrestrials and much more, like dragons and many other beings,
None of "them" can remove religion that is source from us how to find who "they" are,
people have been in contact with other beings WAAAAAY long time ago and in way many places, it will make Religion to rise up properly finally, and we will get back to normal, religious world.
But.... We prefer do do it softly... calmly... in ways that people will realize it themselves.28 June 2014 14:32
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: Extra-Terrestrial Races & Civilizations
Bible IS first source and proof of extra terrestrials and much more, like dragons and many other beings,
None of "them" can remove religion that is source from us how to find who "they" are,
people have been in contact with other beings WAAAAAY long time ago and in way many places, it will make Religion to rise up properly finally, and we will get back to normal, religious world.
But.... We prefer do do it softly... calmly... in ways that people will realize it themselves.28 June 2014 14:31
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
Bible IS first source and proof of extra terrestrials and much more, like dragons and many other beings,
None of "them" can remove religion that is source from us how to find who "they" are,
people have been in contact with other beings WAAAAAY long time ago and in way many places, it will make Religion to rise up properly finally, and we will get back to normal, religious world.
But.... We prefer do do it softly... calmly... in ways that people will realize it themselves.28 June 2014 14:31
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: ufo
Bible IS first source and proof of extra terrestrials and much more, like dragons and many other beings,
None of "them" can remove religion that is source from us how to find who "they" are,
people have been in contact with other beings WAAAAAY long time ago and in way many places, it will make Religion to rise up properly finally, and we will get back to normal, religious world.
But.... We prefer do do it softly... calmly... in ways that people will realize it themselves.28 June 2014 14:30
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: UFO UNIVERSAL
Bible IS first source and proof of extra terrestrials and much more, like dragons and many other beings,
None of "them" can remove religion that is source from us how to find who "they" are,
people have been in contact with other beings WAAAAAY long time ago and in way many places, it will make Religion to rise up properly finally, and we will get back to normal, religious world.
But.... We prefer do do it softly... calmly... in ways that people will realize it themselves.28 June 2014 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: Sirius UFO Research Australia
Bible IS first source and proof of extra terrestrials and much more, like dragons and many other beings,
None of "them" can remove religion that is source from us how to find who "they" are,
people have been in contact with other beings WAAAAAY long time ago and in way many places, it will make Religion to rise up properly finally, and we will get back to normal, religious world.
But.... We prefer do do it softly... calmly... in ways that people will realize it themselves.28 June 2014 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Ma jätan teid omavahel kudrutama,
toimetan suts muud ka.. kuid tulen homme huvitavat lugema.
Kuid jah, kas te oma vanemaid armastate?
Kas usute, enesed võimalikud olevat mingitki väärtust ilma naisele täis austust andmata?
Kas usute enesel hing olevat?
ahjaa.. ja kui te usute ennast "teadvat" hoopis, siis vahetage sõna "uskumine", teadmisega,
Sest noh... kui alles sellel maal ollakse, et endiselt seda usku ollakse, et "teatakse"... siis see minu kraadi klaasi järgi pole eriti kõrge "teadmine"
Sest tarkus ja intelligentsus on ikka usus,
usu või ära usu, et sa ei usu... kuid ma usun, et sa ainult teadmiste põhiselt ikka väga kaugele, inim loomingu tasemele ei jõua : ))28 June 2014 04:36
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
või kuidas usud ennast "teadvat"28 June 2014 04:28
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Siis vasta kuidas "tead" ennast uskuvat28 June 2014 04:28
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Ma hakkan nüüd ka vinguma "äääää miks te ühegile küsimusele ei vasta" :D28 June 2014 04:25
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Mu jaoks naise rinnad ka tundmatud olid, kuid kunagi pole veel kahtlased tundunud
(noh, kui üks LSD tripp välja arvata kuid see selleks, väike Metropolis teema tuli... )28 June 2014 04:23
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Las toivo vastab28 June 2014 04:21
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Toivo Hanni kuidas öö ülistamine päeva pimedaks teeb on suts rohkem kui ma praegu fantaseerida suudan,
Kuid kas sa üldse usud, et Sul on, saab olema Hing ilma Naiseta?
(See, et sa Hinge Usud, on iseenesest juba suur samm rohkem kui paljud... )
Ragnar Säde sa ka Hinge Usud pimesi või teadlikult?28 June 2014 04:17
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Nu eks mine sinna naqualisse ja siis sul selline 5D et opladii :D28 June 2014 04:13
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Nu kividest rääkides mormoonidel ka püha sõnad olid kivis ja suurem osa tänapäeva ajaloo luuledest tuleb kivisse kirjutatust ja koopa joonistest... et jah.. kivi kiviks
Kui saate, siis ikka vastake, et nagu ma kirjutan ühiskonnale retsepti igasuguste väär käitumiste osas, see aitab mul vaadata maailma läbi muude silmade, ning arendab mu võimaliku edu inimligi säilitamise ja ravi osas, juhuks kui seda vaja peaks minema.
Iga rida ja vastus aitab
Ega ma siin muidu siis aega ei investeeriks28 June 2014 04:02
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Miillist arvamust ja miks sa sooviksid näha muutuvana, mõlemad teie ?
Et sa tõemeeli usud, et mees on võrdne olend naisega v?28 June 2014 03:54
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Veel mainin ära sellele empaatia vennale, et kui naine head ööd soovib, siis Soovitakse talle seda vastu mitte ei esitata totraid küsimusi ega klähvita järele midagi veidrat.
Niih, vaatame mis osas veel harida saab... Loen korra need vaimu sünnitised läbi28 June 2014 03:53
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Seda nimetatakse USU VALGUSEKS... kus sa pime seda pimedust näed siin? ... või noh.. kus pime isegi teaks kas on pime või roheline ...28 June 2014 03:51
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
just, see nais hinges sorkimine selliselt, ongi üks keelatud võtteid, kuid ma eip saa sellel teemal arukalt edasi vestelda momendil kuna pole seda tarkust alla laadinud veel omale : )28 June 2014 03:50
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Toivo ma siin avalikult Sulle soovitaks mitte rohkem lastest ja arenguvõimest rääkida, ei näe eriti ilus minu silmade läbi.
Lapsed õpivad ema armastuse kaudu kõik mis vaja eluks28 June 2014 03:48
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Et siis hakkad ka uskuma v?
Ma 100% kindel, et Piibel on hea tehnoloogia ning, et uskumine, et Naised on Kõrgem Hingeline tasand, on hea.
Usun ka, et tulevikus hakkavad inimesed, kes ei mõista Pühakirjade olulisusest saama erilist psüholoogilist abi.28 June 2014 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Mida need laused tähendavad, Toits ja tõnn ?
" Lapsed on arenemisvõimelised ja suudavad selgitamisest õppida"
"Näiteks on võimalik mõnel haigel aru saada sellest, et on ka teised olemas ning kõik pole lapsed. "
... või et lapsed on arenemis võimalised, ära sa märgi28 June 2014 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
No nii... mehed : )
Või noh, mis teeb mehe meheks anyway, naise jaoks näiteks ? Minu arust see ainult ongy olulised, kuna mu kallutatud reaalsustaju pärast omavad just nemad nii seda reaalsust kui järgmist mile olemasolus enamus homo inimesi kahtleb.
Alustaks siis selle esimese veidrusega mis suust välja pühiti, et "igaühe jaoks on püha mis iganes suva tegevus või ollus ja seeläbi kui keegi üksikult arvab, et see on püha, et siis kohe ongi v?
Vaat suurema osa homo inimeste jaoks on raske aru saada mis on püha, sest teil vast raske olla religiooselt spirituaalne. Ehk siis maises ruumis väljendada kõrgemaid väärtusi millega inimesed seotud on kui toituvad teatud moodi, hoiavad keha teatud moodi ja mõtlevad teatud moodi (või pigem ei mõtle teatud mõtteid, sest mõtteid saab ise kontrollida ja juhendada nagu sa tead, piibli basic). Et ei pea rohelisest purotiinost mõtlema kui räägitakse ega seksist võõraga kes kui iganes võrguav on. Sest teda saab vaadata läbi Ilmaliku silmade mitte aint maise. Eks ole muid maised mooduseid ka. (lihtsalt mainin, sest kohanud inimesi, kes arvavad,et normaalne mõelda mis pähe tuleb)
Lisaks usun, et Sul vist ikka päris kõva ego sees kui usud ennast empaat olevat, eriti arvestades mida India religioonid arvavad kes on Ego..(millega ma ka nõustun, lihtsalt nende jumalad on Jehoova loodud, elementaarne :p)
Ei õnnestu ühelgil homol ega pimedal inimesel meid ainult sulgeda siia väiksesse reaalsusesse kui on rohkem kui kindel, et ikka väga palju suuremad süsteemid ja olendid me ümber olemas.
Mida ma tegelikult arvan, miks loodi homod, see veel omamoodi teema, hoian seda veel varuks, senised vastused juba piisavalt muhelema ajanud.
Nagu ühiskond toimib individuaalse kokkuleppe alusel ja veider mõte, et ei saa religiooselt ega seadusega rakendada (õpetada pigem, siin rakendada inimestel pole suurt midagi) mis on püha, nu loomulikult saab, tule taevas appi, kui paljud inimesed sedasi usuks :D
(tegelikult Ta abis enamasti, seega ma häbelikuna eriti ei kutsu siin ka liialt.. proovime "individuaalselt" hakkama saada :D )
Sa ikka seda mõistad, et enamus maailm usub usklikku? (rohkem kui ise hakkajat..)
Väga suur enamus.
Muidugi lõppude lõpuks oleme kõik usklikud, kes just silikonwalleyst pärit pole. kuid mine tea... mul sõber matemaatiliselt proovis emotioone välja arvutada, ehk ka robotitel võime uskuda nagu Cylonitel ...28 June 2014 03:36
Margus Meigo commented on JMatthias Hesse's post.
Group: Aruküla Vaba Waldorfkool
...et võiks siis kohe võlurite jms asju ka õppima hakata avalikumalt : )27 June 2014 21:40
Margus Meigo commented on Madis Troost's post.
Group: Aruküla Vaba Waldorfkool
Ma selle poolt, kuid tugevalt arendada tuleb : )27 June 2014 21:37
Margus Meigo commented on JMatthias Hesse's post.
Group: Aruküla Vaba Waldorfkool
Olge pigem ettevaatlikud iga asja osas kus viisnurgad, sest need pohi sümbolid me rahal, sõjaväel ja muudes kahtlastes organisatsioonides.
Näidates miskeid nii olulisi sümboleid, võiks juba mainida ka millesse üks või teine sümbol seotud on.
Kuid eks seda saabki ainult nende poolt edasi anda kes teavad ning küll kuskil need on kes teavad midagi sellist, mis Abrahami filosoofiaga kokku läheb.
Muidu tegu lihtsalt järgmise astmega sellest samas... ilma, et põhi olulisi tõdesi kohe alguses mainitaks27 June 2014 21:37
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Mis asja sa ajad Toivo :D
Ei tegelikult ka, selgita suts, enne kui vastame..
Et nagu see BASIC piibli käsk, et pead oma PÄRIS vanemaid kuulama, ylendama ja neile alluma, ja et kui nende nõuandeid ei kuula, läbi armastuse, siis kaotad elu tee... hmmm.. miskit sellist..
(muidugi kui su eel vanemad käituvad osalislt elu vaeselt, suitsetavad, joovad, lasid vaimu sisse mis Sind peksab läbi nende... siis järgi Vana Vanemaid... ja .. )
Ja, et naise kehaga peab käituma ja selle eest hoolitsema nagu enda keha eest,
see muidugi elementaarne miinimum nõue...
Kuid laienda teemat Toivo, hoia samas päris postitust silme ees ka, et mis teemaks on, ...abielu, püha pakt lihtsaks kaptitalistlikuks projektiks muuta..
(Minu arust muidugi, inimesed ise oma vahel võivad teha FIE, Käsunduslepingu jms lepinguid kuidas ollakse mis tingimustel jne... )27 June 2014 19:22
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
meil pole homoprobleemi, usu puuduse probleem on, uskumine meie kõrgematesse väärtustesse27 June 2014 18:50
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Lapsed on järgmine tase, uue elu loomine.
Kõigepealt tuleks aru saada kui püha sügav tegevus on seks ja abielu.
Seks pole oma suguelundi teise vasta, ümber või sisse nühkimine, keppimine pole seks ega abielu.
See on selle rüvetamine mis kõik valud ja mure maailmast eemaldaks, midagi mis muudab maailma valgemaks, kingib maailma armastust.
Ning armastus peaks olema juba ammu enne seksi.
Muidugi totter üldse, et me nii madalalubaliste keskel elame, ja ise oleme elanud... ja olnud... et meil vaja sigadusi, seadusi ... maiseid, püha koosluse rakendamiseks (muidugi "kuni surm meid lahutab" pole ka õige, sest ÕIGE abielu puhul sind surm ei lahuta kuskilt... selleks abiellud ju, et Surmast üle saada, daah)27 June 2014 18:49
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Nii raha viirustes olevad mehed kes NAIST kohates endiselt motleb, et äkki keegi jookseb ta rahaga minema, raha mida isegi inimhingede päästmiseks ei kasuta 24 tundi piires.. Sellised mehed.... miks naised nii leebed ning nodel endasse siseneda lubavad?27 June 2014 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Muide siin vahepeal selgituseks ütlen kiirelt vahele, et see kooselu seadus on ikka väga mitte hea asi ja pole vajalik muuks kui inimväliste suhete loomiseks.
Inim ühiskonnas mõlemad abielu inimesed täielikult peaksid ennast loovutama teineteisele, eriti mees kõik oma vara - sest kui ta armastab rohkem oma vara kui naist kellega VÕIB tal minna õnneks ja saada oma hing päästetud, siis mis mees see selline on kes endale projektiga naise võtab, seadusega sätestab maiseid lepinguid millegi üle mis väga taevalik ja igavest elu hõlmav?
Sama sooliste Abi-Elu suhtes, abielu mis mõeldud välja Usu inimeste poolt, saab olla oma põhimotte poolt ainult mehe ja naise (olgu nad kasvõi toonekured) vahel, totrus mõelda küüliku ja sea või mehe ja mingi teise mehe abielu kui spirituaalselt toimivat sümbioosi kus saadakse üheks kehaks.
Armastama peaksid teisi mehi ja loodust nagunii, selleks pole vaja Sul kiriku ja riigi luba, ja kinnitust ja käske, et oma naabrimeest armastama hakata. Kui kellegil suur tunne mingil imelikul seletamatul kombel on oma soolise suhtes, siis kantku tolle eest hoolt ja hooligu, geyidus on hirm nais võimu suhtes (selle pärast nende üleolevus), lesbidus on puudus mehe mehelikuse ja tundlikuse suhtes, mõlemal juhul peaks mees häbi tundma pigem. Kuid samas ka rõõmu, et üldse veel tunneb tunnetega seotud selle asemel, et lipsu teenima hakata või sõjaväega liituda.
Lapsed võivad ka ju kodu mängida kuid ega siis see ei asenda päris vanemaid ega tooda arstimis oskusi. Kuigi nende kodumängul on rohkem tõenäosust kui kirikuvastastel kirikul ennast kokku sundida riduaalis millest aru ei saada.
Üldse, ei saa aru miks kokku lubatakse neid mehi ja naisi kes sügavalt pole aru saanud mida mees teeb. Lahutamisel peaks mees ka veel trahvi saama, ning aastase naisele ligenemise keelu. Vähemalt.27 June 2014 18:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
NaguNikolas Teslale, lendas Tuvi tuppa : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTN0mChZK8E
Otsi nikolas tesla ja tuviga seotud materiale ka... ning motle suts suuremat kui 9nda klassi geomeetria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTN0mChZK8E
Otsi nikolas tesla ja tuviga seotud materiale ka... ning motle suts suuremat kui 9nda klassi geomeetria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTN0mChZK8E
27 June 2014 17:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Saavutatud, keep in mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpDn4mulk-k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpDn4mulk-k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpDn4mulk-k
27 June 2014 17:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Pea meeles seda mida teatakse
http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Wizards vaata seda "Belongs to" osa : )
Eriti see hall kes valgeks sai. Pruun ka mõnus onkel kellega piipu võiks teha või lehti närida : )
http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Wizards vaata seda "Belongs to" osa : )
Eriti see hall kes valgeks sai. Pruun ka mõnus onkel kellega piipu võiks teha või lehti närida : )
http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Wizards
27 June 2014 17:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ära unusta seda mida vaatad kuid ära unusta ka seda mida teatakse
http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Wizards vaata seda "Belongs to" osa : )
Eriti see hall kes valgeks sai. Pruun ka mõnus onkel kellega kädvavahel piipu võiks teha või lehti närida : )
http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Wizards vaata seda "Belongs to" osa : )
Eriti see hall kes valgeks sai. Pruun ka mõnus onkel kellega kädvavahel piipu võiks teha või lehti närida : )
http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Wizards
27 June 2014 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on Judith E. Avery's post.
(for med, emotions joining entheogenic plants that should be taken togheder with mother for starters)
27 June 2014 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on Judith E. Avery's post.
No easy job.
Main problem She did not get along with her mother.
How can anyone be alright in life and have trouble with mother ... : )
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Also she had no relations good with man as She was coming in with mother, and with mother who she did not get along warm caring way, Somaly woman with no huspand is looked at as a bit failure for family and herself... + natural woman things that make head mad for not getting dender care what is needed
Main problem She did not get along with her mother.
How can anyone be alright in life and have trouble with mother ... : )
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Also she had no relations good with man as She was coming in with mother, and with mother who she did not get along warm caring way, Somaly woman with no huspand is looked at as a bit failure for family and herself... + natural woman things that make head mad for not getting dender care what is needed
27 June 2014 03:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Peatame sõja!
Jäägerist, Põhiteema on see, et usu teemat ei mainita, milles tegelt kamm oli, as plaan oli, et nii eesti sisesed Sinised kui Punased oleks usust puhas, et siis hea kontrollida ja kemplus käib samal poolel. Loogiline ka.
Kuid nagu koraan rääkis. neil oli plaan, ja meil oli plaan.. ja meil oli plaan nende plaanist ka...23 June 2014 17:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Peatame sõja!
Jäägrist
Kui Pullapää jäägrid saadeti Paldiskit vallutama
http://www.kesknadal.ee/g2/uudised?id=13962
Hain Rebas Eesti Maja kristallsaalis Eesti Õppetooli korraldusel ettekandega oma Eesti kaitseministriks oleku ajast 22. oktoober 1992 – 3. august 1993 ja oma ametist lahkumise põhjustest.
http://www.eesti.ca/prof-hain-rebase-loeng-eesti-majas/article18525
Möödub kümme aastat jäägrimässust (2003)
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/eesti/moodub-kumme-aastat-jaagrimassust.d?id=50960247
Läänemaa Vabatahtlike Jäägerkompanii Põhimäärus, Kui Eesti oli kodusõja lävel, . Jäägrimässu anatoomia
http://erb.nlib.ee/?komp=&otsi=L%C3%A4%C3%A4nemaa+Vabatahtlike+J%C3%A4%C3%A4gerkompanii®ister=person&r_oid=8fd29aaa
2013, kogunesid Läänemaa Vabatahtlike Jäägerkompanii (LVJ) kunagised võitlejad ja palgatöötajad
http://www.postimees.ee/1285872/pullapaa-20-aastat-hiljem-pole-suvi-enam-nii-kuum
Margus Järve: me ei võtnud midagi ette omapäi
http://www.postimees.ee/1285876/margus-jarve-me-ei-votnud-midagi-ette-omapai
Kas keegi teab midagi Jäägerkompanii ajaloost?
http://www.militaar.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1180
Pullapää kriis. 1993. aasta juulist novembrini toimunud Läänemaa Vabatahtlike Jäägerkompanii ja Eesti riigi vahel toimunud erinevalt tõlgendatav sündmus, mille tulemusel haavas Asso Kommer komissar Koit Pikarot ja Eesti siseminister Lagle Parek astus tagasi.
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pullap%C3%A4%C3%A4_kriis
Peateema
http://www.militaar.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=4781&start=75http://www.kesknadal.ee/g2/uudised?id=13962
23 June 2014 17:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Peatame sõja!
Tarapiitast
http://www.nommevalitsus.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7570&Itemid=119&lang=et
http://www.postimees.ee/2690256/meelis-sare-saadetakse-viimsele-teekonnale-sojakooli-aulast
http://www.riigikogu.ee/rito/index.php?id=16404http://www.nommevalitsus.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7570&Itemid=119&lang=et
23 June 2014 17:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kaitseliit
Jäägerist, Põhiteema on see, et usu teemat ei mainita, milles tegelt kamm oli, as plaan oli, et nii eesti sisesed Sinised kui Punased oleks usust puhas, et siis hea kontrollida ja kemplus käib samal poolel. Loogiline ka.
Kui Pullapää jäägrid saadeti Paldiskit vallutama
http://www.kesknadal.ee/g2/uudised?id=13962
Hain Rebas Eesti Maja kristallsaalis Eesti Õppetooli korraldusel ettekandega oma Eesti kaitseministriks oleku ajast 22. oktoober 1992 – 3. august 1993 ja oma ametist lahkumise põhjustest.
http://www.eesti.ca/prof-hain-rebase-loeng-eesti-majas/article18525
Möödub kümme aastat jäägrimässust (2003)
http://epl.delfi.ee/news/eesti/moodub-kumme-aastat-jaagrimassust.d?id=50960247
Läänemaa Vabatahtlike Jäägerkompanii Põhimäärus, Kui Eesti oli kodusõja lävel, . Jäägrimässu anatoomia
http://erb.nlib.ee/?komp=&otsi=L%C3%A4%C3%A4nemaa+Vabatahtlike+J%C3%A4%C3%A4gerkompanii®ister=person&r_oid=8fd29aaa
2013, kogunesid Läänemaa Vabatahtlike Jäägerkompanii (LVJ) kunagised võitlejad ja palgatöötajad
http://www.postimees.ee/1285872/pullapaa-20-aastat-hiljem-pole-suvi-enam-nii-kuum
Margus Järve: me ei võtnud midagi ette omapäi
http://www.postimees.ee/1285876/margus-jarve-me-ei-votnud-midagi-ette-omapai
Kas keegi teab midagi Jäägerkompanii ajaloost?
http://www.militaar.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1180
Pullapää kriis. 1993. aasta juulist novembrini toimunud Läänemaa Vabatahtlike Jäägerkompanii ja Eesti riigi vahel toimunud erinevalt tõlgendatav sündmus, mille tulemusel haavas Asso Kommer komissar Koit Pikarot ja Eesti siseminister Lagle Parek astus tagasi.
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pullap%C3%A4%C3%A4_kriis
Peateema
http://www.militaar.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=4781&start=75
Nuh, ma arvan nii vähemasti, sest see algne mõte muus riikides ka, Viisnurkadega lippudel... Kui palju neid jõude tead kes juba avalikult liputab tähtedega?http://www.kesknadal.ee/g2/uudised?id=13962
23 June 2014 17:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kaitseliit
Tarapiitast
http://www.nommevalitsus.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7570&Itemid=119&lang=et
http://www.postimees.ee/2690256/meelis-sare-saadetakse-viimsele-teekonnale-sojakooli-aulast
http://www.riigikogu.ee/rito/index.php?id=16404http://www.nommevalitsus.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7570&Itemid=119&lang=et
23 June 2014 17:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
17 But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering, without hypocrisy.
http://biblehub.com/james/3-17.htm
http://biblehub.com/james/3-17.htm
http://biblehub.com/james/3-17.htm
23 June 2014 14:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
See mille kaudu kõige targemaga suhelda on Sinu sees, see põhi point targemas tehnoloogias mis inimestele keeleliselt kätte saadav
"2 They teach wisdom and self-control;
they will help you understand wise words.
3 They will teach you how to be wise and self-controlled
and will teach you to do what is honest and fair and right.
4 They make the uneducated wise
and give knowledge and sense to the young."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs%201&version=ERV /(Wisdom is She)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+1%3A2-4&version=NCV (Same as above, versions of many)
17 But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering, without hypocrisy.
http://biblehub.com/james/3-17.htm
"2 They teach wisdom and self-control;
they will help you understand wise words.
3 They will teach you how to be wise and self-controlled
and will teach you to do what is honest and fair and right.
4 They make the uneducated wise
and give knowledge and sense to the young."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs%201&version=ERV /(Wisdom is She)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+1%3A2-4&version=NCV (Same as above, versions of many)
17 But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering, without hypocrisy.
http://biblehub.com/james/3-17.htm
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs%201&version=ERV
23 June 2014 14:28
Margus Meigo commented on Martina Hoffmann's link.
Can you imagine how these Terrestrials of many types who have been among us from the beginning of man creation.... have think about that worshipping type of species .. "Well.. they made this cute "landing pad" for us.. should we use it ever and how? " (you know, ... like THEY need landing pad..)
Like they say in Koran and Bible "We made Heavens and Earth, what kind of sacrifice You can bring that would please us?" (well, this is my own words, but point of their talk was that)
... for sure there is many other species and pranksters (and some others as low as us, who imagine they can rule something with publicity of power)... who would love to use this Pad for public stunt for temporary event up to time when parents call the order.
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As you know, this is just one way of looking it, there is also other true ways like from Dark Horse video .. and more in to something along the lines that is more close to the Heart of women.
other question that come to mind with it was..
Like they say in Koran and Bible "We made Heavens and Earth, what kind of sacrifice You can bring that would please us?" (well, this is my own words, but point of their talk was that)
... for sure there is many other species and pranksters (and some others as low as us, who imagine they can rule something with publicity of power)... who would love to use this Pad for public stunt for temporary event up to time when parents call the order.
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As you know, this is just one way of looking it, there is also other true ways like from Dark Horse video .. and more in to something along the lines that is more close to the Heart of women.
other question that come to mind with it was..
23 June 2014 11:26
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
jup
Its not haunted
How you know
Gaspar told me....
Its not haunted
How you know
Gaspar told me....
23 June 2014 06:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Igaüks ei oska copy paste, kuid veelgi vähemad oskavad õige laulu valida, millest aru saadakse : )
Suurimad tarkused on kõik kirjas juba tuhandeid aastaid tagasi inimkeeles, siin pole vaja jalgratast leiutada... ja ise proovida tark olla
(tark olemine on religioone käsk, kuid see selleks)
Suurimad tarkused on kõik kirjas juba tuhandeid aastaid tagasi inimkeeles, siin pole vaja jalgratast leiutada... ja ise proovida tark olla
(tark olemine on religioone käsk, kuid see selleks)
23 June 2014 05:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Religioon on jah, ülesse ehitatud korgematele todedele, millest võib loogelda mujale ka... seni kuni tõde meeles pidada, et naise keha püha
23 June 2014 05:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Millisele mehele ei meeldiks naistkummardada pigem : )
(ah need, need pole mingid mehed kah)
(ah need, need pole mingid mehed kah)
23 June 2014 05:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
this one did not get me so hard as it seems, will still keep it here, including my ugly comment on it :?)
as... it is ... this bbc method... is one of the....
as... it is ... this bbc method... is one of the....
23 June 2014 05:06
Margus Meigo commented on Amanda Feilding's photo.
are you normal Jam_? : )
23 June 2014 05:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
a bit red, but still.. true
23 June 2014 04:40
Margus Meigo commented on Claudius Auro Crinis's post.
no, i mean friends, the ones who bother to take trip on this buzzy world and fill in the request
23 June 2014 04:36
Margus Meigo commented on Larry G. Wilson's link.
so true!
"(the "Me" part also means actually... saving ones soul....)"
"(the "Me" part also means actually... saving ones soul....)"
23 June 2014 04:35
Margus Meigo commented on Larry G. Wilson's link.
This Great man! Thank You!
23 June 2014 04:34
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's link.
Was it before England was taken over ... that you had law, that if you do not grow Hemp you will get fined_?
Read something like that... Henry or someone..
Read something like that... Henry or someone..
23 June 2014 04:30
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnn London's post.
Group: Eesti Humanistlik Liikumine
Piiblit peaks alustuseks uskuma hakkama ja Naist kuulama kes lahke loomuga (mis tegelt suht üks ja sama...)23 June 2014 04:26
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
But i know what you feel :)
23 June 2014 04:24
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Love is also needed
23 June 2014 04:23
Margus Meigo commented on Sofia Rubina-Hunter's photo.
Sa nii nii ilus
23 June 2014 04:22
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
She is so powerful can make herself out of any part of man, man needs to learn to be man, and learn what is allowed FOR HIM and what's not, that's where from original sin come as He did not obey, if he would have keep Law ... then this story would not even be mentioned like this
23 June 2014 04:18
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
We got the bible wrong, bible can not "get things wrong" specially about human FOR what species this is specially made.
By species who know well who and what is made how and what complications are coming, so how it needs to be written, so that smart ones will see and blind ones ignore...
It says literally, man ONLY can start to get anywhere when it starts to love women as hes own body, at least
also that Wisdom IS female... and if you reject Wisdom you reject Life.
and that if man is not so smart that can not learn the commandments then women is powerful enough that She can teach Him what life is by Her gentle natural ways, of being good
as She naturally is.
book also talks about corrupted ones, and other beings besides humans... also about dangerous omens.. but that's another topic.
Basically ONLY by Women we can get where is needed. For us, not so much for Her as She is from there...
By species who know well who and what is made how and what complications are coming, so how it needs to be written, so that smart ones will see and blind ones ignore...
It says literally, man ONLY can start to get anywhere when it starts to love women as hes own body, at least
also that Wisdom IS female... and if you reject Wisdom you reject Life.
and that if man is not so smart that can not learn the commandments then women is powerful enough that She can teach Him what life is by Her gentle natural ways, of being good
as She naturally is.
book also talks about corrupted ones, and other beings besides humans... also about dangerous omens.. but that's another topic.
Basically ONLY by Women we can get where is needed. For us, not so much for Her as She is from there...
23 June 2014 04:17
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's photo.
eks ta üks lipsuga mees ole
23 June 2014 04:11
Margus Meigo commented on William Floyd's link.
Deep , good way, Nazarite TheWay
23 June 2014 04:09
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's post.
sounds good, tastes well?
23 June 2014 04:04
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s link.
they are the ones who REALIZE there is more then corporations and hi-school... for sure STAR people (Russia, China, EU, USA...) are worrying... but game is darker then that... as we accept their actions now... this will guarantee this what is prepared for.
How many RELIGIOUS people this brother hood literally has been damaging ??? what for sure,..
why i mention religion so much as this world wars here... has been to remove these nations who realize we are not alone in earth...so we would feel and think less... and work more... for other beings....who Abraham books says we should even not obey at all, .. but we make good slaves and females they get to use for their experiments... this is a feast...
but these "extreme" ones worry "them" most as they can access some extra knowledge, FAST
How many RELIGIOUS people this brother hood literally has been damaging ??? what for sure,..
why i mention religion so much as this world wars here... has been to remove these nations who realize we are not alone in earth...so we would feel and think less... and work more... for other beings....who Abraham books says we should even not obey at all, .. but we make good slaves and females they get to use for their experiments... this is a feast...
but these "extreme" ones worry "them" most as they can access some extra knowledge, FAST
23 June 2014 04:03
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s link.
again! new every month mass slaughtered of highest rank are happening and what UN, NATO and others waiting for?
ohh... as long its religious people STAR PEOPLE care little, .... we are getting what we asking for.
ohh... as long its religious people STAR PEOPLE care little, .... we are getting what we asking for.
23 June 2014 03:55
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's post.
burn her softly...
23 June 2014 03:51
Margus Meigo commented on Claudius Auro Crinis's post.
who are they and why should anyone boter
23 June 2014 03:50
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
or just take road where some great people are, making new road is a bit extreme but works for me as well... perhaps
23 June 2014 03:46
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
what you think who gets lady more easily with no cash _?
23 June 2014 03:45
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
sceery
23 June 2014 03:44
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
yes "could be" is also real
23 June 2014 03:42
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's link.
Suurte kaameratega ja ühel vist lips ka veel ees. umbe nagu puutin-laste loodus käigud
23 June 2014 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on Rebecca Hanna's post.
Sorry about that :)
23 June 2014 03:37
Margus Meigo commented on Rebecca Hanna's post.
David, wrong.
Unless you mean the creed.
God is visible and invisible, imaginable and unimaginable, but probably closest contact you can get with god is when you deeply obey your good wife and realize She is all for you while holding penis inside her vagina.
Here is some religion 123
(last part is not requirement but these who are blessed with that gift should use as its made ... to feel, what life is worth )
Lack of religion is fault of man, and lack of doing what is needed, by the book, is most fatal mistake man ever made.
When man starts to love women like own body, what is minimum requirement for dealing with Wisdom, THEN ... even nature love might come after that. Right now we gone so insane, that man even not humbly respect woman...
Unless you mean the creed.
God is visible and invisible, imaginable and unimaginable, but probably closest contact you can get with god is when you deeply obey your good wife and realize She is all for you while holding penis inside her vagina.
Here is some religion 123
(last part is not requirement but these who are blessed with that gift should use as its made ... to feel, what life is worth )
Lack of religion is fault of man, and lack of doing what is needed, by the book, is most fatal mistake man ever made.
When man starts to love women like own body, what is minimum requirement for dealing with Wisdom, THEN ... even nature love might come after that. Right now we gone so insane, that man even not humbly respect woman...
23 June 2014 03:27
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
much colder, that when slaughter comes, most of us will support it, ...... specially by using these video games that are training for future robot army...
23 June 2014 03:24
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
Is it like who gets most damaged body but survives then he will be given honours as it cheaper then court cases or something ?
Or is just for the game, that who can get most bullets and come back to encourage others with smile to take away the worry and spark up emotions for more ..?
Am from Estonia, need explanation... We have not send on our nation name anyone to fight outside borders... but have survived wars from 8 nations, ...so looking these kind of awards looks so strange.
survived means for us that we are still sensitive and care for anyone who attack us, as there must be something wrong with peoples heart deeply if they are manipulated to attack someone, specially outside your own country.. so we not pissed to much, take it as grandfather thinks about punks who hooligan way break sauna window,
sometimes you even have to take gun and shoot few of them , but not outside your own yard... global operations can be done with other spirits.. there is thousands years old books about that..
Or is just for the game, that who can get most bullets and come back to encourage others with smile to take away the worry and spark up emotions for more ..?
Am from Estonia, need explanation... We have not send on our nation name anyone to fight outside borders... but have survived wars from 8 nations, ...so looking these kind of awards looks so strange.
survived means for us that we are still sensitive and care for anyone who attack us, as there must be something wrong with peoples heart deeply if they are manipulated to attack someone, specially outside your own country.. so we not pissed to much, take it as grandfather thinks about punks who hooligan way break sauna window,
sometimes you even have to take gun and shoot few of them , but not outside your own yard... global operations can be done with other spirits.. there is thousands years old books about that..
23 June 2014 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on Julie Askins's post.
UNless you buy with money magic mushrooms and then will know how
23 June 2014 03:11
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
people sometimes think that this "mi5" shit is a kind of like joke, only,
23 June 2014 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
He should have joint with you in public or private and talk some serous shit or chill or something... other wise he starts to imagine like he is star or something (well.. he is kind of... STAR)
23 June 2014 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
You made me smile Tom
But yeah... he does work for the man even if he is not knowing it
But yeah... he does work for the man even if he is not knowing it
23 June 2014 03:03
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
weed and mushrooms grows for free and bible is easy to find,
rest will be healed soon if needed, if not then no real medical will make pain less in the heart or mind anyway
rest will be healed soon if needed, if not then no real medical will make pain less in the heart or mind anyway
23 June 2014 03:01
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
They need some good drugs and plants with some religious information, that will treat them well, way better then this epic expensive programme they have... that they KNOW they get in to at best if they stay alive.
23 June 2014 03:00
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
You did the naked cycle run ?
snap.. should have stay to UK longer!
snap.. should have stay to UK longer!
23 June 2014 02:59
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
"Minda ei teinud!
23 June 2014 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
Also this cross type of sing kind of helps as well
23 June 2014 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on Autre Personne's post.
I look all my women who i have ever slept and think same: WHY in the world i did not realize in what kind of paradise i was with !!!
Well... i kind of did but...
(must be drunk to let them go.. then again... would have not meet other angels ... but then again... would not have hurt them so much as well by letting them go... and would not be alone for now... )
Every women i ever touched has been great, i must have been blessed to have them around me.... and yes, drunk, as well...
What would we do with out them?
A: We would not be born...
Well... i kind of did but...
(must be drunk to let them go.. then again... would have not meet other angels ... but then again... would not have hurt them so much as well by letting them go... and would not be alone for now... )
Every women i ever touched has been great, i must have been blessed to have them around me.... and yes, drunk, as well...
What would we do with out them?
A: We would not be born...
23 June 2014 02:56
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
:D
23 June 2014 02:48
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Sõites ei puhata!!!
23 June 2014 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on Enit Arusoo's album.
VAOU, oot te kolmekad hoopis! : ))))
23 June 2014 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on Enit Arusoo's album.
Ühtekad
23 June 2014 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on Enit Arusoo's photo.
Paneks kaks laiki kui saaks! : )
23 June 2014 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on Estonia's link.
Yes, Its really old news indeed Dmitri : )
23 June 2014 02:42
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
See päris valus, in so many levels
22 June 2014 14:07
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
seks (with one that owns rest of the space and spirits)
21 June 2014 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s post.
but if you choose one and can not get other or related to other ?
(no cars, no footwear, no any mind plant or no...)
means, out of all what would you take as one?
(no cars, no footwear, no any mind plant or no...)
means, out of all what would you take as one?
21 June 2014 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Human, Too
or better jet, tell what part did you agree or understand most as something you can connect with ?
Have you had "one body" experience with other being ? Or know someone who had ? ... its kind of like tantra soul level experience in mind but literally physical feeling for body (as well).21 June 2014 19:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Human, Too
I know, my language expression is so clear not jet,
what part seemed to be most complicated ?21 June 2014 19:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Human, Too
oh, ma alguses mõtlesin, et tal see särgi peale otse tikitud kuid hoopis arvuti graafika oli21 June 2014 19:35
Margus Meigo commented on Bret Wright's post.
Group: Human, Too
Yes, he even does not have long beard and hair, means he Deeply have not been serving god really , more like serving man.
And as one man can ONLY get to high places through women by accepting female holy position in space as Life Givers... in my vision.
then is really hard to see for me how, by any miracle can these organisms who work against cosmic energy end up to be useful for space.
Yes, we can make up some reasons but are they true.. in the spotlight if religions are true about need from male/female body joining in to one new body to become life bringers.
But i have more views then that21 June 2014 19:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Me siin tähe inimestele oma enda tähtedega võime vastata
We can reply with our own starts, to the five star supper states https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAcACOEC_Pc&index=4&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX ... and with some truths from Bible ...
Kuid jah, uskuda veel ei tasu, sest nad enne soendavad masinavärgi ülesse suure, väga suure tõenäosusega,. et näha kus kes mis moodi liigutama hakkab. Vigasi seekord enam ei soovita suurte üllatuste näol.
We can reply with our own starts, to the five star supper states https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAcACOEC_Pc&index=4&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX ... and with some truths from Bible ...
Kuid jah, uskuda veel ei tasu, sest nad enne soendavad masinavärgi ülesse suure, väga suure tõenäosusega,. et näha kus kes mis moodi liigutama hakkab. Vigasi seekord enam ei soovita suurte üllatuste näol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAcACOEC_Pc&index=4&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX
21 June 2014 16:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kuid tasuta pileteid rongile enam vast ei saa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFnQbP44zSo ...sest pole vaja, see project juba tehti...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFnQbP44zSo
21 June 2014 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9LfkCef58&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX&index=24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9LfkCef58&list=PLsXelNZnKcxku_NlJSjoccEwrf7mPvrZX&index=24
21 June 2014 16:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
siis ma veel polnud nii tark, et pikkade juustega olla :D
See võib vabalt 10a vana pilt olla
See võib vabalt 10a vana pilt olla
21 June 2014 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN12Tg5ttpk&index=2&list=RDL41cCGnnjiw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN12Tg5ttpk&index=2&list=RDL41cCGnnjiw
21 June 2014 00:01
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's post.
how about you
20 June 2014 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's post.
well... can not be sure but as soon as needed : )
20 June 2014 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s link.
Some other bits,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSTIke5So0M
Look from smart eyes, from heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSTIke5So0M
Look from smart eyes, from heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSTIke5So0M
20 June 2014 01:00
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s link.
The best deep interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxUw1jp1EZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxUw1jp1EZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxUw1jp1EZI
20 June 2014 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s link.
finally he s free! Well, looking hes eyes we can see He was free all along. Great news, Humans on the rise!
He is one of the world best humans actually if looking hes values and what he wants
He is one of the world best humans actually if looking hes values and what he wants
20 June 2014 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on Brent Paris's post.
Group: Gnostic University
and how to become possessed by these archetypes and what we gain or loose.
All your deeds are seen, but people like to pretend, that Illuminati is showing, is telling something imaginary, so they can pretend they feel good.
You play hide and seek with yourself man, in basement, , while house is burning ... while what you should do, is get a wife to accept you and obey her and serve her with all your heart by serving world by making Her world better, in any levels you are given to be able to think about.
Something like that19 June 2014 19:19
Margus Meigo commented on Brent Paris's post.
Group: Gnostic University
How you can have archetype of something that is only one, or why would someone think the first manifestation of archetype (master/alpha archetype) is "some board idea" that was newer in person?
Machine is made yes for go, but most is not machine you know.
Also talk what is relevant to humans how WE was made and how relevant is bible to this, how much use for us to know about re+births of universes (UNI means dream in Estonian) if we do not even not know how we was made, for what and when. really. ... not when these parts of us was grown in Earth but when HUMAN man, this version that is main stream here now,
how many thousands of time people talk about everything but what is most relevant to them, here, now ?
Also one must ask why is these bad things that this 48 minute mentioned beings do, what is benefit for them.
We should stop talking about all these things like child book story as they are epic but somewhere away between a book, talk about in your life, in our EU reforms, soviet union and if you got ball left map some of my types as well.19 June 2014 19:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Mis osas Sinul ?
mul ka omad mured mõne põhi punkti juures, nagu see võimas ja tõene informatsioon kuid muu planeedi jaoks, või siis olukorra jaoks kus suurem osa inimesi ei ole nakatunud tõsistesse viirustesse nagu suitsetamine, halvad mõtted või liha söömine jne.
Ma arvan, et enne seksi peaks inimesed vähemat pahedest loobuma mis on teada ja tuntud kahjulikud, muidu need muud tegelased meie sees peavad oma pulmi ja me iial selle inimesega ei saa tunda seda mis loodud. Puiselt seletan, kuid mu eelmise juttu arvestada mis Sul rääkinud olen, saad umbes aru küll mis meeles pean.
mul ka omad mured mõne põhi punkti juures, nagu see võimas ja tõene informatsioon kuid muu planeedi jaoks, või siis olukorra jaoks kus suurem osa inimesi ei ole nakatunud tõsistesse viirustesse nagu suitsetamine, halvad mõtted või liha söömine jne.
Ma arvan, et enne seksi peaks inimesed vähemat pahedest loobuma mis on teada ja tuntud kahjulikud, muidu need muud tegelased meie sees peavad oma pulmi ja me iial selle inimesega ei saa tunda seda mis loodud. Puiselt seletan, kuid mu eelmise juttu arvestada mis Sul rääkinud olen, saad umbes aru küll mis meeles pean.
19 June 2014 16:46
Margus Meigo commented on Asse Sauga's post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
Ärme uusi gruppe veel vast väga teeme, hoiame kõikvestluse nii nähtavad ühes kohas kui saame,
Eraldi seisev foorum kus aga see mis siin ja muu kajastub on aga kasuks küll, ega ainult siinsele loota ei saa.
Kuid ka siin sobiks alustuseks Hinnavaatluse või toru tegelastelt ala foorumit küsida. Palju mõistlike ja tõsiste kogemustega inimesi kes liigutada ennast ei viitsi mujale, tolledes kohtades.
Me eraldamiste kaudu väikesti eraldiseisvatesse gruppidesse mille progressist ainult valitsusorganid ja muud muude huvidega tegelased ülevaadet omavad praegu suurt kasu pole.19 June 2014 14:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
lifting the shroud off these false illusions
this computer is a weapon of mine
and i can run the globe in polynomial time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCNZrhyb2Fc
this computer is a weapon of mine
and i can run the globe in polynomial time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCNZrhyb2Fc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCNZrhyb2Fc
19 June 2014 13:35
Margus Meigo commented on Krista Klein's post.
Kas mitte muusad polnud ühed ohtlikest naise archityypidest kes mehe hinge ära näpsata tahavad ajades teise enesest lummusesse, umbes nagu merineitsid jms ?
Hmm... mul kohe hea raamat ka ses osas pakkuda lugeda... Mari Metsallik ma Sulle ka toda soovitasin... see Song of Eve
kas said mahti lugeda naiselikusega? : )
Hmm... mul kohe hea raamat ka ses osas pakkuda lugeda... Mari Metsallik ma Sulle ka toda soovitasin... see Song of Eve
kas said mahti lugeda naiselikusega? : )
19 June 2014 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
aga mis muidu Mari Metsallik enamusest blogi jutust arvad?
19 June 2014 04:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
ja kui mees ajab naise petma, mis siis juuksed maha vms ?
19 June 2014 04:50
Margus Meigo commented on Autre Personne's link.
first evil is smoking, then meat eating, (or perhaps ...)... then forgetting mushrooms and plants... then female..
Okey, will read on first :p
Okey, will read on first :p
19 June 2014 03:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Celtic Christianity
http://www.youtube.com./watch?v=FBMc28pKURY
http://www.youtube.com./watch?v=FBMc28pKURY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBMc28pKURY
16 June 2014 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
16 June 2014 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.:.
16 June 2014 03:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Full talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0KNt2DLpzI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0KNt2DLpzI
15 June 2014 23:06
Margus Meigo commented on Armas Olen's post.
Kuid kallid ka ikka, päris elus!
15 June 2014 22:58
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
lamo @ feudalism peasants :D
15 June 2014 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Tiits's post.
Just, mida sa näed ja mis on tegelikus, just seda nägingi.
Tõsimeeli osad inimesed usuvad, et see popp ja juustel pole tähtsust ning veel usutakse, et väiksed tüdrukud on lihtsalt väikesed plikad...
Selliseid leidub...
Kuid mis on tegelikus... pole minu mure,mu mure on teha seda mis selle teadmiste sees mis on, tunnen/usun olevat hea kõikides suundades mis olemas tean olevat, nii igaks juhuks : )
Tõsimeeli osad inimesed usuvad, et see popp ja juustel pole tähtsust ning veel usutakse, et väiksed tüdrukud on lihtsalt väikesed plikad...
Selliseid leidub...
Kuid mis on tegelikus... pole minu mure,mu mure on teha seda mis selle teadmiste sees mis on, tunnen/usun olevat hea kõikides suundades mis olemas tean olevat, nii igaks juhuks : )
15 June 2014 20:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
SUPERSTITION. Year 1898 The Works of ROBERT G. INGERSOLL
http://infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/superstition.html
"The man of sense knows the history of this belief, and he
knows, also, that for many centuries its truth was established by
the Holy Bible. He knows that the Old Testament is filled with
allusions to the Devil, to evil spirits, and that the New Testament
is the same. He knows that Christ himself was a believer in the
Devil, in evil spirits, and that his principal business was casting
out devils from the bodies of men and women. He knows that Christ
himself, according to the New Testament, was not only tempted by
the Devil, but was carried by his Satanic Highness to the top of
the temple. If the New Testament is the inspired word of God, then
I admit that these devils, these imps, do actually exist and that
they do take possession of human beings."
//Out of contects still a bit, but still, between of magic some truth as well perhaps, rather truth... //
"There was, I believe, one invention during these ages. It is
said that, in the thirteenth century, Roger Bacon, a Franciscan
monk, invented gunpowder, but this invention was without a fellow.
Yet we cannot give Christianity the credit, because Bacon was an
infidel, and was great enough to say that in all things reason must
be the standard."
// he gos on, (ON backround, Arvo Pärt -Tabula Rasa, Silentium https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3Mqpw6mDUuk#t=2600 ) //
Possibly there is a place called "hell,
And so there may be a place called "heaven,"
//(one is possibly other is maybe..)//
There may be a power superior to nature, a power that governs
and directs all things, but the existence of this power has not
been established.
//(Understood or Felt or Seen by Some... is more accurate)//
In the presence of the mysteries of life and thought, of force
and substance, of growth and decay, of birth and death, of joy and
pain, of the sufferings of the good, the triumphs of wrong, the
intelligent honest man is compelled to say: "I do not know."
// jes, an Intelligent man who is hones... intelligent..//
"...We believe in the natural. We have no fear of devils, ghosts
or hells. We believe that Mahatmas, astral bodies, materializations
of spirits, crystal gazing, seeing the future, telepathy, mind
reading and Christian Science are.."
// lol ...//
We belive in
"Life and child and friend -- in the realities of this world. We
have faith in facts -- in knowledge -- in the development of the
brain. We throw away superstition and welcome science. We banish
the phantoms, the mistakes and lies and cling to the truth. We do
not enthrone the unknown and crown our ignorance. We do not stand
with our backs to the sun and mistake our shadow for God. "
// what are the other worlds...//
// (always wondered... is that a Name, why its written with big G .. by people who try to say is not ? ..why to obey These tules then.. suppertstition perhaps, good enought) //
"We do not create a master and thankfully wear his chains. We
do not enslave ourselves. We want no leaders -- no followers. Our
desire is that every human being shall be true to himself, to his
ideal, unbribed by promises, careless of threats. We want no tyrant
on the earth or in the air.
// if there is something in the air, its not like we for sure would have option be on 100 years to choose what to do.... //
And for ending note he is adding:
(Tabula Rasa, Silentium...on ending notes...)
"We know that science has given us all we have of value.
Science is the only civilizer. It has freed the slave, clothed the
naked, fed the hungry, lengthened life, given us homes and hearths,
pictures and books, ships and railways, telegraphs and cables,
engines that tirelessly turn the countless wheels, and it has
destroyed the monsters, the phantoms, the winged horrors that
filled the savage brain.
Science is the real redeemer. It will put honesty above
hypocrisy; mental veracity above all belief. It will teach the
religion of usefulness. It will destroy bigotry in all its forms.
It will put thoughtful doubt above thoughtless faith. It will give
us philosophers, thinkers and savants, instead of priests,
theologians and saints. It will abolish poverty and crime, and
greater, grander, nobler than all else, it will make the whole
world free."
This guy needs love and magic, i know, i felt like this as well for some time... but then i grow up and now i know there is more then magics
More serious or sadness for later reading http://infidels.org/library/modern/theism/psychology.html
http://infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/superstition.html
"The man of sense knows the history of this belief, and he
knows, also, that for many centuries its truth was established by
the Holy Bible. He knows that the Old Testament is filled with
allusions to the Devil, to evil spirits, and that the New Testament
is the same. He knows that Christ himself was a believer in the
Devil, in evil spirits, and that his principal business was casting
out devils from the bodies of men and women. He knows that Christ
himself, according to the New Testament, was not only tempted by
the Devil, but was carried by his Satanic Highness to the top of
the temple. If the New Testament is the inspired word of God, then
I admit that these devils, these imps, do actually exist and that
they do take possession of human beings."
//Out of contects still a bit, but still, between of magic some truth as well perhaps, rather truth... //
"There was, I believe, one invention during these ages. It is
said that, in the thirteenth century, Roger Bacon, a Franciscan
monk, invented gunpowder, but this invention was without a fellow.
Yet we cannot give Christianity the credit, because Bacon was an
infidel, and was great enough to say that in all things reason must
be the standard."
// he gos on, (ON backround, Arvo Pärt -Tabula Rasa, Silentium https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3Mqpw6mDUuk#t=2600 ) //
Possibly there is a place called "hell,
And so there may be a place called "heaven,"
//(one is possibly other is maybe..)//
There may be a power superior to nature, a power that governs
and directs all things, but the existence of this power has not
been established.
//(Understood or Felt or Seen by Some... is more accurate)//
In the presence of the mysteries of life and thought, of force
and substance, of growth and decay, of birth and death, of joy and
pain, of the sufferings of the good, the triumphs of wrong, the
intelligent honest man is compelled to say: "I do not know."
// jes, an Intelligent man who is hones... intelligent..//
"...We believe in the natural. We have no fear of devils, ghosts
or hells. We believe that Mahatmas, astral bodies, materializations
of spirits, crystal gazing, seeing the future, telepathy, mind
reading and Christian Science are.."
// lol ...//
We belive in
"Life and child and friend -- in the realities of this world. We
have faith in facts -- in knowledge -- in the development of the
brain. We throw away superstition and welcome science. We banish
the phantoms, the mistakes and lies and cling to the truth. We do
not enthrone the unknown and crown our ignorance. We do not stand
with our backs to the sun and mistake our shadow for God. "
// what are the other worlds...//
// (always wondered... is that a Name, why its written with big G .. by people who try to say is not ? ..why to obey These tules then.. suppertstition perhaps, good enought) //
"We do not create a master and thankfully wear his chains. We
do not enslave ourselves. We want no leaders -- no followers. Our
desire is that every human being shall be true to himself, to his
ideal, unbribed by promises, careless of threats. We want no tyrant
on the earth or in the air.
// if there is something in the air, its not like we for sure would have option be on 100 years to choose what to do.... //
And for ending note he is adding:
(Tabula Rasa, Silentium...on ending notes...)
"We know that science has given us all we have of value.
Science is the only civilizer. It has freed the slave, clothed the
naked, fed the hungry, lengthened life, given us homes and hearths,
pictures and books, ships and railways, telegraphs and cables,
engines that tirelessly turn the countless wheels, and it has
destroyed the monsters, the phantoms, the winged horrors that
filled the savage brain.
Science is the real redeemer. It will put honesty above
hypocrisy; mental veracity above all belief. It will teach the
religion of usefulness. It will destroy bigotry in all its forms.
It will put thoughtful doubt above thoughtless faith. It will give
us philosophers, thinkers and savants, instead of priests,
theologians and saints. It will abolish poverty and crime, and
greater, grander, nobler than all else, it will make the whole
world free."
This guy needs love and magic, i know, i felt like this as well for some time... but then i grow up and now i know there is more then magics
More serious or sadness for later reading http://infidels.org/library/modern/theism/psychology.html
http://infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/superstition.html
15 June 2014 18:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
X JUDGMENT AND APOCALYPSE
When heaven is split open,
when the stars are scattered,
when the seas swarm over,
when the tombs are overthrown,
then a soul shall know its works, the former and the latter.
- The Qur'an 82:1-5
When the sun shall be darkened,
when the stars shall be thrown down,
when the mountains shall be set moving,
when the pregnant camels shall be neglected,
when the savage beasts shall be mustered,
when the seas shall be set boiling, when the souls shall be coupled,
when the buried infant shall be asked for what sin she was slain,
when the scrolls shall be unrolled,
when heaven shall be stripped off,
when Hell shall be set blazing,
when Paradise shall be brought nigh,
then shall a soul know what it has produced.
- The Qur'an 81:1-14
Upon that day men shall issue in scatterings to see their works,
and whoso has done an atom's weight of good shall see it,
and whoso has done an atom's weight of evil shall see it.
- The Qur'an 99:5-6
That you are suffering so comes from your own actions;
it is not due to anybody else.
it is by your own actions.
The good spirit born with you,
will come now and count out your good deeds with white pebbles,
and the evil spirit born with you,
will come now and count out your evil deeds with black pebbles.
Then you will be frightened, awed and terrified.
Then the Lord of Death
will place round your neck a rope and drag you along;
he will cut off your head, extract your heart, pull out your guts,
lick up your brain, eat your flesh, and gnaw your bones,
but you will not die.
Although your body be hacked to pieces, it will live again.
and cause great pain and torture.
But be not frightened and terrified,
and fear not the Lord of Death.
Your body is the nature of emptiness,
you need not be afraid.
Emptiness cannot injure emptiness.
That is the emptiness of your true nature,
before whcih your mind shines clearly and lucidly,
and at which you feel awe,
emptiness by nature luminous,
luminous light inseparable from emptiness.
- The Tibetan Book of the Dead
At the end of four ages
The earth's surface is wasted.
There arises a dreadful drought that lasts for a hundred years.
Then all these earthly beings perish completely through oppression.
And so Lord Vishnu, who abides in himself,
Appears as terrifying Shiva and destroys all creatures.
Through the sun's seven rays, he drinks up all the water.
Then seven rays become seven suns
and, blazing, ignite all three worlds.
These worlds then blaze like a frying pan.
All things are consumed by flames.
Dreadful clouds arise.
Like elephants they fill up the sky.
Roaring loudly, pouring down rain,
They completely extinguish this dreadful fire.
When the fire is thoroughly quenched,
The clouds, raining day and night,
Overwhelm the entire world with water.
When everything has perished in the watery darkness,
Rain pours down for another hundred years.
So it is at the end of every Eon.
- The Vishnu Purãna
XI PARADISE
It is the time of union,
It is the time of vision,
It is the time of resurrection,
It is the time of grace,
It is the time of generosity,
The treasure of gifts has arrived,
The brilliance of the sea has flashed forth.
The dawn of blessing has arisen.
- Rumi
As was the man of dust,
so are those who are of dust;
as is the man of heaven,
so are those who are of heaven.
Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust,
we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven.
[When the perishable puts on the imperishable,
and the mortal puts on immortality,]
then shall come to pass the saying that is written:
"Death is swallowed up in victory."
- First Corinthians 15:48-49, 54
On that shore [there] is a city, where the rain of nectar [pours and pours, and] never ceases.
There the sky is filled with music.
The harp strings jingle and there the drums beat.
There is no rising and setting of the sun;
In this ocean of love, day and night are one.
There I have seen joy filled to the brim.
There falls the rhythmic beat of life and death:
Rapture wells forth, [and all] space is radiant with light.
Millions of lamps of sun and of moon are burning;
There the drum beats, and the lover swings in play.
There love-songs resound, and the light rains in showers.
- Kabir
XII DEDICATION OF MERIT
May I be a protector for those without one
And a lamp for those desiring light,
[May I be] a bridge, a boat, a ship
For all who wish to cross the water.
May the forest of razor-sharp leaves
Become a beautiful pleasure grove,
And may the trees of knives and swords
Grow into wish-fulfilling trees.
May the regions of hell become places of joy
With vast and fragrant lotus pools
Beautiful with [the] exquisite calls
Of wild ducks, geese and swans.
May the heaps of burning coals change to heaps of jewels,
May the burning ground become a polished crystal floor,
And may the mountain of [the] crushing hells
Become celestial palaces of worship filled with Buddhas.
May the rains of lava, blazing stones and weapons
[From now on] become a rain of flowers,
And may all battling with weapons
[From now on] become a playful exchange of flowers.
May the naked find clothing,
The hungry find food;
May the thirsty find water
And delicious drinks.
May the poor find wealth,
Those weak with sorrow find joy;
May the forlorn find new hope,
Constant happiness and prosperity.
May all who are sick and ill
Quickly be freed from their illness,
And may every disease in the world
Never occur again.
May the troubled wanderers who have lost their way
Meet with fellow travelers,
And without any fear of thieves or tigers
May their going be easy without [any] fatigue.
May those who find themselves in trackless, fearful wilderness -
The children, the aged, the unprotected,
Those stupefied and the insane -
Be guarded by beneficent celestials.
And may the land everywhere be pure,
Smooth and devoid of any rocks,
Level like the palm of the hand
[And] of the nature of lapis lazuli.
May the celestials bring timely rains
So that harvests may be bountiful.
May kings act in accordance with Dharma
And the people of the world always prosper.
By the merits I('ve accumulated),
May every single being
Abandon all forms of evil
And forever engage in virtue.
For as long as space endures
And (for) as long as living beings remain,
Until then may I too abide
To dispel the misery of the world.
When heaven is split open,
when the stars are scattered,
when the seas swarm over,
when the tombs are overthrown,
then a soul shall know its works, the former and the latter.
- The Qur'an 82:1-5
When the sun shall be darkened,
when the stars shall be thrown down,
when the mountains shall be set moving,
when the pregnant camels shall be neglected,
when the savage beasts shall be mustered,
when the seas shall be set boiling, when the souls shall be coupled,
when the buried infant shall be asked for what sin she was slain,
when the scrolls shall be unrolled,
when heaven shall be stripped off,
when Hell shall be set blazing,
when Paradise shall be brought nigh,
then shall a soul know what it has produced.
- The Qur'an 81:1-14
Upon that day men shall issue in scatterings to see their works,
and whoso has done an atom's weight of good shall see it,
and whoso has done an atom's weight of evil shall see it.
- The Qur'an 99:5-6
That you are suffering so comes from your own actions;
it is not due to anybody else.
it is by your own actions.
The good spirit born with you,
will come now and count out your good deeds with white pebbles,
and the evil spirit born with you,
will come now and count out your evil deeds with black pebbles.
Then you will be frightened, awed and terrified.
Then the Lord of Death
will place round your neck a rope and drag you along;
he will cut off your head, extract your heart, pull out your guts,
lick up your brain, eat your flesh, and gnaw your bones,
but you will not die.
Although your body be hacked to pieces, it will live again.
and cause great pain and torture.
But be not frightened and terrified,
and fear not the Lord of Death.
Your body is the nature of emptiness,
you need not be afraid.
Emptiness cannot injure emptiness.
That is the emptiness of your true nature,
before whcih your mind shines clearly and lucidly,
and at which you feel awe,
emptiness by nature luminous,
luminous light inseparable from emptiness.
- The Tibetan Book of the Dead
At the end of four ages
The earth's surface is wasted.
There arises a dreadful drought that lasts for a hundred years.
Then all these earthly beings perish completely through oppression.
And so Lord Vishnu, who abides in himself,
Appears as terrifying Shiva and destroys all creatures.
Through the sun's seven rays, he drinks up all the water.
Then seven rays become seven suns
and, blazing, ignite all three worlds.
These worlds then blaze like a frying pan.
All things are consumed by flames.
Dreadful clouds arise.
Like elephants they fill up the sky.
Roaring loudly, pouring down rain,
They completely extinguish this dreadful fire.
When the fire is thoroughly quenched,
The clouds, raining day and night,
Overwhelm the entire world with water.
When everything has perished in the watery darkness,
Rain pours down for another hundred years.
So it is at the end of every Eon.
- The Vishnu Purãna
XI PARADISE
It is the time of union,
It is the time of vision,
It is the time of resurrection,
It is the time of grace,
It is the time of generosity,
The treasure of gifts has arrived,
The brilliance of the sea has flashed forth.
The dawn of blessing has arisen.
- Rumi
As was the man of dust,
so are those who are of dust;
as is the man of heaven,
so are those who are of heaven.
Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust,
we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven.
[When the perishable puts on the imperishable,
and the mortal puts on immortality,]
then shall come to pass the saying that is written:
"Death is swallowed up in victory."
- First Corinthians 15:48-49, 54
On that shore [there] is a city, where the rain of nectar [pours and pours, and] never ceases.
There the sky is filled with music.
The harp strings jingle and there the drums beat.
There is no rising and setting of the sun;
In this ocean of love, day and night are one.
There I have seen joy filled to the brim.
There falls the rhythmic beat of life and death:
Rapture wells forth, [and all] space is radiant with light.
Millions of lamps of sun and of moon are burning;
There the drum beats, and the lover swings in play.
There love-songs resound, and the light rains in showers.
- Kabir
XII DEDICATION OF MERIT
May I be a protector for those without one
And a lamp for those desiring light,
[May I be] a bridge, a boat, a ship
For all who wish to cross the water.
May the forest of razor-sharp leaves
Become a beautiful pleasure grove,
And may the trees of knives and swords
Grow into wish-fulfilling trees.
May the regions of hell become places of joy
With vast and fragrant lotus pools
Beautiful with [the] exquisite calls
Of wild ducks, geese and swans.
May the heaps of burning coals change to heaps of jewels,
May the burning ground become a polished crystal floor,
And may the mountain of [the] crushing hells
Become celestial palaces of worship filled with Buddhas.
May the rains of lava, blazing stones and weapons
[From now on] become a rain of flowers,
And may all battling with weapons
[From now on] become a playful exchange of flowers.
May the naked find clothing,
The hungry find food;
May the thirsty find water
And delicious drinks.
May the poor find wealth,
Those weak with sorrow find joy;
May the forlorn find new hope,
Constant happiness and prosperity.
May all who are sick and ill
Quickly be freed from their illness,
And may every disease in the world
Never occur again.
May the troubled wanderers who have lost their way
Meet with fellow travelers,
And without any fear of thieves or tigers
May their going be easy without [any] fatigue.
May those who find themselves in trackless, fearful wilderness -
The children, the aged, the unprotected,
Those stupefied and the insane -
Be guarded by beneficent celestials.
And may the land everywhere be pure,
Smooth and devoid of any rocks,
Level like the palm of the hand
[And] of the nature of lapis lazuli.
May the celestials bring timely rains
So that harvests may be bountiful.
May kings act in accordance with Dharma
And the people of the world always prosper.
By the merits I('ve accumulated),
May every single being
Abandon all forms of evil
And forever engage in virtue.
For as long as space endures
And (for) as long as living beings remain,
Until then may I too abide
To dispel the misery of the world.
15 June 2014 08:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
VIII COMPASSION
All people have the heart
which cannot bear to see the sufferings of others.
- Mencius 2.A.6
Gladly do I rejoice
In the virtue that relieves the misery
Of all those who suffer
And place them in happiness.
Thus by the virtue collected
Through all that I have done,
May the pain of every living creature
Be completely cleared away.
May I be the doctor and the medicine
And may I be the nurse
For all sick beings in the world
Til everyone is healed.
May a rain of food and drink descend
To clear away the pain of thirst and hunger
And during the aeons of famine
May I myself change into food and drink.
May I become an inexhaustible treasure
For those who are poor and destitute;
May I turn into all the things they could need
And may these be placed close beside them.
- Bodhicaryãvatãra 3:1, 7-10
Sãntideva
The heart of compassion
Is the seed of benevolence.
- Mencius 2.A.6
May I be protector for those without one,
A guide for all travelers on the way;
[May I be] a bridge, a boat and a ship
For all who wish to cross the water.
May I be an island for those who seek one
And a lamp for those wishing light,
[May I be] a bed for all who wish to rest
And a slave for all who want a slave.
May I be a wishing jewel, a magic vase,
Powerful mantras and great medicine,
[May I become] a wish-fulfilling tree
And a cow of plenty for the world.
Just like space
And the great elements such as earth,
May I always support the life
Of all the boundless creatures.
And until they pass away from pain
May I also be the source of life
For all the realms of varied beings
That reach unto the ends of space.
- Bodhicaryãvatãra 3:18-22
Sãntideva
I was hungry and you gave me food,
I was thirsty and you gave me drink,
I was a stranger and you welcomed me,
I was naked and you covered me,
I was sick and you visited me,
I was in prison and you came to me.
Truly I say to you, as you did it
for the least of [these] my brothers and sisters
You did it for me.
- Matthew 25: 35-36, 40
IX DEATH
People seldom find their way
To this wide and desolate plain.
Except for my grave, there is nothing here,
Only wild beasts roaming about
And quarreling over my bones.
The wandering ghosts that haunt this tomb
Fly with the wind over the pines,
Quick as a lightening flash before the eye,
And brief as the morning dew.
Must I remain forever hidden beneath the moss,
Here in these shadows of grass?
[Then] I would rather be buried once and for all,
in dark oblivion!
Such pains of desire burn my soul!
This is my dwelling, the Burning House,
This is my dwelling, the Burning House!
- The Sought-for Grave
Kanze Kiyotsugu Kan'ami
In this world
the living grow fewer,
the dead increase
how much longer must I carry this body of grief?
How sad,
to think I will end
as only
a pale green mist
drifting the far fields.
- Ono no Komachi
On a journey, ill
And over fields all withered
Dreams go wandering still.
- His Death Haiku
Bashõ Matsuo
My foes will become nothing.
My friends will become nothing.
I too will become nothing.
Likewise all will become nothing.
Just as in a dream
whatever I enjoy
will become a memory,
whatever has passed will not be seen again.
Leaving all I must depart alone.
- Bodhicaryãvatãra 2:35-36, 34
Sãntideva
All people have the heart
which cannot bear to see the sufferings of others.
- Mencius 2.A.6
Gladly do I rejoice
In the virtue that relieves the misery
Of all those who suffer
And place them in happiness.
Thus by the virtue collected
Through all that I have done,
May the pain of every living creature
Be completely cleared away.
May I be the doctor and the medicine
And may I be the nurse
For all sick beings in the world
Til everyone is healed.
May a rain of food and drink descend
To clear away the pain of thirst and hunger
And during the aeons of famine
May I myself change into food and drink.
May I become an inexhaustible treasure
For those who are poor and destitute;
May I turn into all the things they could need
And may these be placed close beside them.
- Bodhicaryãvatãra 3:1, 7-10
Sãntideva
The heart of compassion
Is the seed of benevolence.
- Mencius 2.A.6
May I be protector for those without one,
A guide for all travelers on the way;
[May I be] a bridge, a boat and a ship
For all who wish to cross the water.
May I be an island for those who seek one
And a lamp for those wishing light,
[May I be] a bed for all who wish to rest
And a slave for all who want a slave.
May I be a wishing jewel, a magic vase,
Powerful mantras and great medicine,
[May I become] a wish-fulfilling tree
And a cow of plenty for the world.
Just like space
And the great elements such as earth,
May I always support the life
Of all the boundless creatures.
And until they pass away from pain
May I also be the source of life
For all the realms of varied beings
That reach unto the ends of space.
- Bodhicaryãvatãra 3:18-22
Sãntideva
I was hungry and you gave me food,
I was thirsty and you gave me drink,
I was a stranger and you welcomed me,
I was naked and you covered me,
I was sick and you visited me,
I was in prison and you came to me.
Truly I say to you, as you did it
for the least of [these] my brothers and sisters
You did it for me.
- Matthew 25: 35-36, 40
IX DEATH
People seldom find their way
To this wide and desolate plain.
Except for my grave, there is nothing here,
Only wild beasts roaming about
And quarreling over my bones.
The wandering ghosts that haunt this tomb
Fly with the wind over the pines,
Quick as a lightening flash before the eye,
And brief as the morning dew.
Must I remain forever hidden beneath the moss,
Here in these shadows of grass?
[Then] I would rather be buried once and for all,
in dark oblivion!
Such pains of desire burn my soul!
This is my dwelling, the Burning House,
This is my dwelling, the Burning House!
- The Sought-for Grave
Kanze Kiyotsugu Kan'ami
In this world
the living grow fewer,
the dead increase
how much longer must I carry this body of grief?
How sad,
to think I will end
as only
a pale green mist
drifting the far fields.
- Ono no Komachi
On a journey, ill
And over fields all withered
Dreams go wandering still.
- His Death Haiku
Bashõ Matsuo
My foes will become nothing.
My friends will become nothing.
I too will become nothing.
Likewise all will become nothing.
Just as in a dream
whatever I enjoy
will become a memory,
whatever has passed will not be seen again.
Leaving all I must depart alone.
- Bodhicaryãvatãra 2:35-36, 34
Sãntideva
15 June 2014 08:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
- The Song of Songs 2:10-12, 4:16, 5:1
As the mirror to my hand,
the flowers to my hair,
kohl to my eyes,
tambul to my mouth,
[musk to my breast,]
necklace to my throat,
ecstasy to my flesh,
heart to my home -
as wing to bird,
water to fish,
life to the living -
so you to me.
But tell me,
Madhava, beloved,
who are you?
Who are you really?
Vidyãpati says, they are one another.
- Vidyãpati
At the first note of his flute
down came the lion gate of reverence for elders,
down came the door of dharma,
my guarded treasure of modesty was lost,
I was thrust to the ground as if by a thunderbolt.
Ah, yes, his dark body
[poised in the tribhanga pose]
shot the arrow that pierced me;
no more honor, my family
lost to me,
[my home at Vraja
lost to me.]
Only my life is left - and my life too
is only a breath that is leaving me.
- Jagadãnanda-dãsa
Come, come, whoever you are!
Wanderer, worshipper, lover of leaving.
Come.
This is not a caravan of despair.
It doesn't matter if you have broken your vows a thousand times.
Still come, and yet again come!
- Rumi
VI EVIL AND IGNORANCE
Thoughts came into existence and they gazed
Their vision came all at once
Perfectly they saw, perfectly they knew
[everything under the sky, wherever they looked]
Everything was seen without obstruction
As they looked, their knowledge became intense
Their sight passed through trees, through rocks, through lakes,
through seas, through mountains, through plains
[they saw everything under the sky perfectly
they understood everything perfectly.]
"We have understood everything!" they said,
though they were only works and designs.
And so the Bearer, [Begetter,] took back their knowledge.
They were blinded as the face of a mirror is breathed on.
Their vision flickered.
They could only see clearly close up.
Such was the loss of understanding,
with the means of knowing everything.
- The Popul Vuh
All things, O monks, are on fire.
And what are things are on fire?
The eye is on fire, forms are on fire
the ear is on fire; sounds are on fire
the nose is on fire, odors are on fire
the tongue is on fire, tastes are on fire
the body is on fire, things touched are on fire
the mind is on fire, thoughts are on fire.
[And with what are these on fire?]
Fire of passion
Fire of hatred
The fire of infatuation with birth, old age and death.
- The Fire Sermon,
from The Mahã-Vagga 1:21
Lost souls of little understanding and fierce deeds
rise as the enemies of the world for its destruction.
"This have I gotten today,
and that desire I will fulfill.
This wealth is mine, and that also shall be mine.
That enemy I have killed
and others I will kill.
I am the lord of all.
I enjoy, I am [prosperous], mighty and happy.
I am rich, of high birth.
Who is equal to me?
I will offer sacrifice, I will give, I will enjoy."
Thus, deluded by ignorance,
[bewildered by so many fantasies,]
entangled in the meshes of desire,
addicted to pleasure
they fall into loathsome hell.
- The Bhagavad Gitã 16:9, 13-16
VII SUFFERING
My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Why are you so far from helping me,
from the words of my groaning?
O my God, I cry by day, but you do not answer,
and by night, but find no rest.
- Psalm 22:1-3
My limbs fail and my mouth is parched.
My body is shaken and my hair stands on end.
The bow Gandiva slips from my hand
[and my skin is on fire.]
I cannot hold myself steady;
my mind seems to whirl.
- The Bhagavad Gitã 1:29-30
Let the day perish wherein I was born,
and the night which said,
'A child is conceived.'
Let that day be darkness!
May God above not seek it,
nor light shine upon it.
Let gloom and deep darkness claim it.
Let clouds dwell upon it;
let the blackness of [the] day terrify it.
That night - let thick darkness seize it!
Why did I not die at birth,
come forth from the womb and expire?
Why did the knees receive me?
Or why the breasts, that I should suck?
For then I should have lain down and been quiet;
I should have slept; then I should have been at rest.
Why is light given to him that is in misery,
and life to the bitter in soul,
who long for death, but it does not come,
they search for it more than hidden treasure,
who rejoice exceedingly, and are glad,
when they find the grave?
Why is light given to a man whose way is hidden,
whom God has hedged in?
For my sighing comes as my bread,
and my groanings are poured out like water.
For the thing that I fear comes upon me,
and what I dread befalls me.
- Job 3:2-6, 11-13, 20-25
There is no faithfulness or kindness,
and no knowledge of God in the land;
there is swearing, lying, [killing], stealing, [and committing adultery],
they break all bounds and murder follows murder,
Thus the land mourns,
and all who dwell in it languish,
and the beasts of the field,
and the birds of the air,
and even the fish of the sea are taken away.
- Hosea 4:1-3
As the mirror to my hand,
the flowers to my hair,
kohl to my eyes,
tambul to my mouth,
[musk to my breast,]
necklace to my throat,
ecstasy to my flesh,
heart to my home -
as wing to bird,
water to fish,
life to the living -
so you to me.
But tell me,
Madhava, beloved,
who are you?
Who are you really?
Vidyãpati says, they are one another.
- Vidyãpati
At the first note of his flute
down came the lion gate of reverence for elders,
down came the door of dharma,
my guarded treasure of modesty was lost,
I was thrust to the ground as if by a thunderbolt.
Ah, yes, his dark body
[poised in the tribhanga pose]
shot the arrow that pierced me;
no more honor, my family
lost to me,
[my home at Vraja
lost to me.]
Only my life is left - and my life too
is only a breath that is leaving me.
- Jagadãnanda-dãsa
Come, come, whoever you are!
Wanderer, worshipper, lover of leaving.
Come.
This is not a caravan of despair.
It doesn't matter if you have broken your vows a thousand times.
Still come, and yet again come!
- Rumi
VI EVIL AND IGNORANCE
Thoughts came into existence and they gazed
Their vision came all at once
Perfectly they saw, perfectly they knew
[everything under the sky, wherever they looked]
Everything was seen without obstruction
As they looked, their knowledge became intense
Their sight passed through trees, through rocks, through lakes,
through seas, through mountains, through plains
[they saw everything under the sky perfectly
they understood everything perfectly.]
"We have understood everything!" they said,
though they were only works and designs.
And so the Bearer, [Begetter,] took back their knowledge.
They were blinded as the face of a mirror is breathed on.
Their vision flickered.
They could only see clearly close up.
Such was the loss of understanding,
with the means of knowing everything.
- The Popul Vuh
All things, O monks, are on fire.
And what are things are on fire?
The eye is on fire, forms are on fire
the ear is on fire; sounds are on fire
the nose is on fire, odors are on fire
the tongue is on fire, tastes are on fire
the body is on fire, things touched are on fire
the mind is on fire, thoughts are on fire.
[And with what are these on fire?]
Fire of passion
Fire of hatred
The fire of infatuation with birth, old age and death.
- The Fire Sermon,
from The Mahã-Vagga 1:21
Lost souls of little understanding and fierce deeds
rise as the enemies of the world for its destruction.
"This have I gotten today,
and that desire I will fulfill.
This wealth is mine, and that also shall be mine.
That enemy I have killed
and others I will kill.
I am the lord of all.
I enjoy, I am [prosperous], mighty and happy.
I am rich, of high birth.
Who is equal to me?
I will offer sacrifice, I will give, I will enjoy."
Thus, deluded by ignorance,
[bewildered by so many fantasies,]
entangled in the meshes of desire,
addicted to pleasure
they fall into loathsome hell.
- The Bhagavad Gitã 16:9, 13-16
VII SUFFERING
My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Why are you so far from helping me,
from the words of my groaning?
O my God, I cry by day, but you do not answer,
and by night, but find no rest.
- Psalm 22:1-3
My limbs fail and my mouth is parched.
My body is shaken and my hair stands on end.
The bow Gandiva slips from my hand
[and my skin is on fire.]
I cannot hold myself steady;
my mind seems to whirl.
- The Bhagavad Gitã 1:29-30
Let the day perish wherein I was born,
and the night which said,
'A child is conceived.'
Let that day be darkness!
May God above not seek it,
nor light shine upon it.
Let gloom and deep darkness claim it.
Let clouds dwell upon it;
let the blackness of [the] day terrify it.
That night - let thick darkness seize it!
Why did I not die at birth,
come forth from the womb and expire?
Why did the knees receive me?
Or why the breasts, that I should suck?
For then I should have lain down and been quiet;
I should have slept; then I should have been at rest.
Why is light given to him that is in misery,
and life to the bitter in soul,
who long for death, but it does not come,
they search for it more than hidden treasure,
who rejoice exceedingly, and are glad,
when they find the grave?
Why is light given to a man whose way is hidden,
whom God has hedged in?
For my sighing comes as my bread,
and my groanings are poured out like water.
For the thing that I fear comes upon me,
and what I dread befalls me.
- Job 3:2-6, 11-13, 20-25
There is no faithfulness or kindness,
and no knowledge of God in the land;
there is swearing, lying, [killing], stealing, [and committing adultery],
they break all bounds and murder follows murder,
Thus the land mourns,
and all who dwell in it languish,
and the beasts of the field,
and the birds of the air,
and even the fish of the sea are taken away.
- Hosea 4:1-3
15 June 2014 08:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
III CREATION OF SENTIENT BEINGS
Izanagi no Mikoto and Izanami no Mikoto stood on the floating bridge of Heaven and held counsel together, saying,
"Is there not a country below?"
Thereupon they thrust down the jewel-spear of Heaven,
and groping about found the ocean.
The brine which dripped from the point of the spear came together
and became an island. This island was named
Ono-goro-jima,
and they made Ono-goro-jima the pillar of the center of the land.
Now the male god circled to the left,
and the female god circled to the right,
they went round the pillar separately.
When they met
they united as husband and wife.
They gave birth to the islands, the sea, the rivers, the mountains,
the ancestor of the trees, the ancestor of the herbs.
- The Nihongi
In the lead the whales proceed,
Mingling [and submerging] beneath the sea;
The 'opule fish advance in the distance;
They fill the deep ocean;
Like kumimi crabs clustered on the reef;
the youngest is carried by the current into darkness.
Black as night the opaque sea.
- The Kumulipo
Zambe, the son of the One Who Bears the World,
dipped his hands in the water, and sprinkled hair all over the body of the chimpanzee and said to him, moreover, "You will always live in the forests."
- Bulu Creation Story
Still Bumba our Creator was in pain.
He strained once again and from his mouth
nine living creatures came forth:
the leopard named Koy Bumba,
and Pongo Bumba the crested eagle,
the crocodile, Ganda Bumba,
and one little fish named Yo;
next, old Kono Bumba, the tortoise,
and Tsetse, the lightning, swift, deadly, beautiful like the leopard,
then the white heron, Nyanyi Bumba,
also one beetle,
and the goat named Budi.
The creatures themselves then created all the creatures.
The heron created [all] the birds of the air,
The crocodile made the serpents and the iguana,
The goat produced every beast with horns.
Yo, the small fish, brought forth all the fish of all the seas and waters.
The beetle created insects.
Then the serpents in their turn made grasshoppers
and the iguana made the creatures without horns.
- Boshongo Creation Story
IV CREATION OF HUMAN BEINGS
The dawn has approached
Preparations have been made
and the morning has come
for the provider, the nurturer
born in the light
begotten in the light
Morning has come for humankind
for the people of the face of the earth
The Creators went on thinking in the darkness, in the night
as they searched and they sifted
they thought and they wondered
and here their thoughts came out in clear light
they sought and discovered what was needed for human flesh
the yellow corn
the white corn
from the Split Place
from the Bitter Water Place
[the ears of yellow corn and white corn]
the corn became the human flesh
the water became the human blood
the making, the modeling of our first mother-father
This was done by the Bearer, Begetter
Sovereign Plumed Serpent
- The Popul Vuh
Surely We created man of clay
of molded mud
and before man, We created the jinn
of fire flaming.
And your Lord said to the angels,
"See, I am creating a mortal of clay
of molded mud.
When I have shaped him, and breathed My spirit in him, fall down,
and bow before him!"
Then the angels bowed [themselves
all together,]
save Iblis; [he refused to be among those bowing.]
God said, "What ails you, Iblis, that
you are not among those bowing?"
Said he, "I would never bow
before a mortal
whom You have created of a clay
of molded mud."
Said He,
"Then go forth from here;
you are accursed.
Upon you shall rest My curse, till
The Day of Doom."
Said Iblis, "My Lord, respite me til the day
they shall be raised."
Said He, "You are among those
that are respited unto the day
of a known time."
Said he, "My Lord, since you have seduced me
I shall tempt mankind [so] on earth."
- The Qur'an 15:26-37
V LOVE AND JOY
Come to the orchard in spring.
There is light and wine and sweethearts
in the pomegranate flowers.
If you do not come
these do not matter.
If you do come
these do not matter.
- Rumi
My beloved speaks and says to me:
"Arise, my love, my fair one,
and come away!
for lo, the winter is past,
[the rain is over and gone.]
The flowers appear on the earth,
the time of singing has come,
and the voice of the turtledove is heard in our land."
Awake, O north wind, and come, O south wind!
Blow upon my garden, let its fragrance be wafted abroad.
Let my beloved come to his garden, and eat its choicest fruits.
I come to my garden, my sister, my bride,
I gather my myrrh with my spice,
I eat my honeycomb with my honey,
I drink my wine with my milk.
Izanagi no Mikoto and Izanami no Mikoto stood on the floating bridge of Heaven and held counsel together, saying,
"Is there not a country below?"
Thereupon they thrust down the jewel-spear of Heaven,
and groping about found the ocean.
The brine which dripped from the point of the spear came together
and became an island. This island was named
Ono-goro-jima,
and they made Ono-goro-jima the pillar of the center of the land.
Now the male god circled to the left,
and the female god circled to the right,
they went round the pillar separately.
When they met
they united as husband and wife.
They gave birth to the islands, the sea, the rivers, the mountains,
the ancestor of the trees, the ancestor of the herbs.
- The Nihongi
In the lead the whales proceed,
Mingling [and submerging] beneath the sea;
The 'opule fish advance in the distance;
They fill the deep ocean;
Like kumimi crabs clustered on the reef;
the youngest is carried by the current into darkness.
Black as night the opaque sea.
- The Kumulipo
Zambe, the son of the One Who Bears the World,
dipped his hands in the water, and sprinkled hair all over the body of the chimpanzee and said to him, moreover, "You will always live in the forests."
- Bulu Creation Story
Still Bumba our Creator was in pain.
He strained once again and from his mouth
nine living creatures came forth:
the leopard named Koy Bumba,
and Pongo Bumba the crested eagle,
the crocodile, Ganda Bumba,
and one little fish named Yo;
next, old Kono Bumba, the tortoise,
and Tsetse, the lightning, swift, deadly, beautiful like the leopard,
then the white heron, Nyanyi Bumba,
also one beetle,
and the goat named Budi.
The creatures themselves then created all the creatures.
The heron created [all] the birds of the air,
The crocodile made the serpents and the iguana,
The goat produced every beast with horns.
Yo, the small fish, brought forth all the fish of all the seas and waters.
The beetle created insects.
Then the serpents in their turn made grasshoppers
and the iguana made the creatures without horns.
- Boshongo Creation Story
IV CREATION OF HUMAN BEINGS
The dawn has approached
Preparations have been made
and the morning has come
for the provider, the nurturer
born in the light
begotten in the light
Morning has come for humankind
for the people of the face of the earth
The Creators went on thinking in the darkness, in the night
as they searched and they sifted
they thought and they wondered
and here their thoughts came out in clear light
they sought and discovered what was needed for human flesh
the yellow corn
the white corn
from the Split Place
from the Bitter Water Place
[the ears of yellow corn and white corn]
the corn became the human flesh
the water became the human blood
the making, the modeling of our first mother-father
This was done by the Bearer, Begetter
Sovereign Plumed Serpent
- The Popul Vuh
Surely We created man of clay
of molded mud
and before man, We created the jinn
of fire flaming.
And your Lord said to the angels,
"See, I am creating a mortal of clay
of molded mud.
When I have shaped him, and breathed My spirit in him, fall down,
and bow before him!"
Then the angels bowed [themselves
all together,]
save Iblis; [he refused to be among those bowing.]
God said, "What ails you, Iblis, that
you are not among those bowing?"
Said he, "I would never bow
before a mortal
whom You have created of a clay
of molded mud."
Said He,
"Then go forth from here;
you are accursed.
Upon you shall rest My curse, till
The Day of Doom."
Said Iblis, "My Lord, respite me til the day
they shall be raised."
Said He, "You are among those
that are respited unto the day
of a known time."
Said he, "My Lord, since you have seduced me
I shall tempt mankind [so] on earth."
- The Qur'an 15:26-37
V LOVE AND JOY
Come to the orchard in spring.
There is light and wine and sweethearts
in the pomegranate flowers.
If you do not come
these do not matter.
If you do come
these do not matter.
- Rumi
My beloved speaks and says to me:
"Arise, my love, my fair one,
and come away!
for lo, the winter is past,
[the rain is over and gone.]
The flowers appear on the earth,
the time of singing has come,
and the voice of the turtledove is heard in our land."
Awake, O north wind, and come, O south wind!
Blow upon my garden, let its fragrance be wafted abroad.
Let my beloved come to his garden, and eat its choicest fruits.
I come to my garden, my sister, my bride,
I gather my myrrh with my spice,
I eat my honeycomb with my honey,
I drink my wine with my milk.
15 June 2014 08:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I BEFORE THE CREATION
There was neither non-existence nor existence then;
there was neither realm of space nor the sky which is beyond.
What stirred? Where? In whose protection?
Was there water, bottomlessly deep?
There was neither death nor immortality [then].
There was no [distinguishing] sign of night nor of day.
That One breathed, windless, by Its own impulse.
Other than that there was nothing beyond.
Darkness was hidden by darkness in the beginning;
with no [distinguishing] sign, all this was water.
The life force that was covered with emptiness,
That One arose through the power of heat.
Desire came upon That One in the beginning;
that was the first seed of mind.
Poets seeking in their heart with wisdom found
the bond of existence in non-existence.
Their cord was extended across.
Was there below? Was there above?
There were seed-placers; there were powers.
There was impulse beneath; there was giving-forth above.
Who really knows? Who will here proclaim it?
Whence was it produced? Whence is this creation?
The gods came afterwards, with the creation of the universe.
Who then knows whence it has arisen?
Whence this creation has arisen -
perhaps it formed itself, or perhaps it did not -
the one who looks down [on it], in the highest heaven,
only he knows - or perhaps he does not know.
- The Rig Veda 10.129
II CREATION OF THE COSMOS
When He decrees a thing,
He but says to it,
"Be," and it is.
- The Qur'an 2:117
In the beginning
when God made heaven and earth,
the earth was without form and void,
with darkness over the face of the abyss;
and a mighty wind that swept over the surface of the waters.
And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light;
And God saw that the light was good;
and He separated light from darkness.
He called the light day, and the darkness night.
[So evening came and morning came, the first day.]
So God said:
"Let there be a vault between the waters,
to separate water from water."
[So God made the vault,
and separated the water under the dome
from the waters which above it,]
and so it was;
and God called the vault Heaven.
- Genesis 1:1-8
When space turned around, the earth heated,
When space turned over, the sky reversed,
When the sun appeared standing in the shadows
To cause light to make bright the moon,
When the Pleiades are small eyes in the night,
From the source in the earth was earth formed.
From the source in the dark was darkness formed.
From the source in the night was night formed.
From the depths of darkness, darkness so deep;
Darkness of day, darkness of night,
Of night alone.
- The Kumulipo
"White clouds shall float up
from the great waters at the border of the world
clustering about the mountain terraces.
They shall be borne aloft and abroad
by the breath of the surpassing soul-beings,
by the breath of the children,
they shall be hardened and broken by your cold,
shedding downward, in rain-spray, the water of life
into the hollow places of my lap."
"Not only you shall help our children!"
And he spread his hand out with the palm downward.
Into all the wrinkles and crevices
he set things looking like shining yellow corn-grains;
in the dark of the early world-dawn they gleamed like sparks of fire.
They moved as his hand moved over the terraces,
shining up from below,
moving in the depths of the water.
"And as these grains gleam up from the water,
so shall seed grains like them, but numberless,
spring up from your bosom
when touched by my waters
to nourish our children."
- Zuñi Creation Story
There was neither non-existence nor existence then;
there was neither realm of space nor the sky which is beyond.
What stirred? Where? In whose protection?
Was there water, bottomlessly deep?
There was neither death nor immortality [then].
There was no [distinguishing] sign of night nor of day.
That One breathed, windless, by Its own impulse.
Other than that there was nothing beyond.
Darkness was hidden by darkness in the beginning;
with no [distinguishing] sign, all this was water.
The life force that was covered with emptiness,
That One arose through the power of heat.
Desire came upon That One in the beginning;
that was the first seed of mind.
Poets seeking in their heart with wisdom found
the bond of existence in non-existence.
Their cord was extended across.
Was there below? Was there above?
There were seed-placers; there were powers.
There was impulse beneath; there was giving-forth above.
Who really knows? Who will here proclaim it?
Whence was it produced? Whence is this creation?
The gods came afterwards, with the creation of the universe.
Who then knows whence it has arisen?
Whence this creation has arisen -
perhaps it formed itself, or perhaps it did not -
the one who looks down [on it], in the highest heaven,
only he knows - or perhaps he does not know.
- The Rig Veda 10.129
II CREATION OF THE COSMOS
When He decrees a thing,
He but says to it,
"Be," and it is.
- The Qur'an 2:117
In the beginning
when God made heaven and earth,
the earth was without form and void,
with darkness over the face of the abyss;
and a mighty wind that swept over the surface of the waters.
And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light;
And God saw that the light was good;
and He separated light from darkness.
He called the light day, and the darkness night.
[So evening came and morning came, the first day.]
So God said:
"Let there be a vault between the waters,
to separate water from water."
[So God made the vault,
and separated the water under the dome
from the waters which above it,]
and so it was;
and God called the vault Heaven.
- Genesis 1:1-8
When space turned around, the earth heated,
When space turned over, the sky reversed,
When the sun appeared standing in the shadows
To cause light to make bright the moon,
When the Pleiades are small eyes in the night,
From the source in the earth was earth formed.
From the source in the dark was darkness formed.
From the source in the night was night formed.
From the depths of darkness, darkness so deep;
Darkness of day, darkness of night,
Of night alone.
- The Kumulipo
"White clouds shall float up
from the great waters at the border of the world
clustering about the mountain terraces.
They shall be borne aloft and abroad
by the breath of the surpassing soul-beings,
by the breath of the children,
they shall be hardened and broken by your cold,
shedding downward, in rain-spray, the water of life
into the hollow places of my lap."
"Not only you shall help our children!"
And he spread his hand out with the palm downward.
Into all the wrinkles and crevices
he set things looking like shining yellow corn-grains;
in the dark of the early world-dawn they gleamed like sparks of fire.
They moved as his hand moved over the terraces,
shining up from below,
moving in the depths of the water.
"And as these grains gleam up from the water,
so shall seed grains like them, but numberless,
spring up from your bosom
when touched by my waters
to nourish our children."
- Zuñi Creation Story
15 June 2014 08:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
A BRIDGE BETWEEN THE PAST, THE PRESENT and THE FUTURE
The symphony was commissioned and conceived as a millennium celebration work for the Salzburg Festival. My plan has been for the symphony to represent a broad spectrum of many of the world's great "wisdom" traditions. Working together with the Very Reverend James Parks Morton of the Interfaith Center of New York and Professor Kusumita P. Pedersen of St. Francis College, we synthesized a vocal text that begins before the world's creation, passes through earthly life and paradise, and closes with a future dedication. We are looking at the moment of the millennium as a bridge between the past (represented by the "Requiem" and embodying the first nine movements up to the moment of Death) the present (the "Bardo" representing the "in between") and culminating in "Nirmanakaya" (rebirth as manifestation of enlightened activity). We have elected to present the original texts (Greek, Hebrew, Sanskrit, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese and indigenous languages) in one language, English, to show the commonalities with which all these traditions resonate. For a work of this scale it seemed fitting to add chorus, children's choir and soloists to the usual symphonic ensemble, thereby giving it ample breadth and dramatic capability.
Besides being a compendium of reflection on the process of global transformation and evolution, it is hoped that the work will serve as a strong and positive celebration of the millennium year.
— Philip Glass
TEXTS:
Compiled and edited by Philip Glass, James Parks Morton, and Kusumita P. Pedersen.
The symphony was commissioned and conceived as a millennium celebration work for the Salzburg Festival. My plan has been for the symphony to represent a broad spectrum of many of the world's great "wisdom" traditions. Working together with the Very Reverend James Parks Morton of the Interfaith Center of New York and Professor Kusumita P. Pedersen of St. Francis College, we synthesized a vocal text that begins before the world's creation, passes through earthly life and paradise, and closes with a future dedication. We are looking at the moment of the millennium as a bridge between the past (represented by the "Requiem" and embodying the first nine movements up to the moment of Death) the present (the "Bardo" representing the "in between") and culminating in "Nirmanakaya" (rebirth as manifestation of enlightened activity). We have elected to present the original texts (Greek, Hebrew, Sanskrit, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese and indigenous languages) in one language, English, to show the commonalities with which all these traditions resonate. For a work of this scale it seemed fitting to add chorus, children's choir and soloists to the usual symphonic ensemble, thereby giving it ample breadth and dramatic capability.
Besides being a compendium of reflection on the process of global transformation and evolution, it is hoped that the work will serve as a strong and positive celebration of the millennium year.
— Philip Glass
TEXTS:
Compiled and edited by Philip Glass, James Parks Morton, and Kusumita P. Pedersen.
15 June 2014 08:49
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's post.
Minust the 5 stars and eye... what does that represent..
15 June 2014 00:51
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's photo.
You knw... after few post me kind of forgot its your page and then scroll past this image here and thinking "hey, that looks like May" ... lets scroll back see again... and hey, here you was : )
15 June 2014 00:48
Margus Meigo commented on Mehwish Qayum's post.
They should join in some dudes as well, as why they should insult them seld so much ... but yeah... psychological effect will be great
15 June 2014 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on Mart Kalvet's post.
Väga lihtne, ainult aususega jõuab sihile mida soovid lõpuks
14 June 2014 22:02
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's link.
ohtuleht proovib ka taset näidata, kuid The Sun iga inglisemaalt ikka ei tasu võidelda.
Ja sellise asjakohta yeldakse "uskumatu aga tõsi" ... noh... see meelte solkimiseks, et päris reaalsete uudiste puhul arvaksime ka, et ... igast hullust ju kirjutatud...
tegelt see ega ometi nad ju seda päriselt ei kirjutanud, see raudselt huumori tsoones kuid ei hakka klikkima ka :P
Ja sellise asjakohta yeldakse "uskumatu aga tõsi" ... noh... see meelte solkimiseks, et päris reaalsete uudiste puhul arvaksime ka, et ... igast hullust ju kirjutatud...
tegelt see ega ometi nad ju seda päriselt ei kirjutanud, see raudselt huumori tsoones kuid ei hakka klikkima ka :P
14 June 2014 17:54
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's link.
ohtuleht proovib ka taset näidata, kuid The Sun iga inglisemaalt ikka ei tasu võidelda.
Ja sellise asjakohta yeldakse "uskumatu aga tõsi" ... noh... see meelte solkimiseks, et päris reaalsete uudiste puhul arvaksime ka, et ... igast hullust ju kirjutatud...
Ja sellise asjakohta yeldakse "uskumatu aga tõsi" ... noh... see meelte solkimiseks, et päris reaalsete uudiste puhul arvaksime ka, et ... igast hullust ju kirjutatud...
14 June 2014 17:53
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Tiits's post.
THis is rare ... mostly the one who shaves hes head like that is infected by some strange ideology + hair damaging removes connections to the senses of emotion, environment and all that... ning vaiksed tüdrukud, loomulikult võivad olla ja enamasti ongi võimsad ja võimsamad olendid, seda enam tuleks neid austada ja neilt oppida. Kuigi nad räägivad omas keeles. ...muidugi ingel peaks saba nägema... ja taolised pildid rohkem usuinimeste teema. Loomulikult "liimi nuusutajate" seas ka häid liigub, kes proovib päästa mis päästa annab
14 June 2014 17:51
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
For sure i would like to see you naked as well.
14 June 2014 17:44
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
So are you joining in with this ... or have some respect for yourself, and curtsy to say yourself WHEN you drive in naked and on what.
All these "lets go show tits in pack" (for some agenda that we do not care to look in to ... who or what might be behind on it... or who is benefiting.. or do they need...)
But yeah. am sure lots of ... kind of people you would not want around you will support this one whit two hands
All these "lets go show tits in pack" (for some agenda that we do not care to look in to ... who or what might be behind on it... or who is benefiting.. or do they need...)
But yeah. am sure lots of ... kind of people you would not want around you will support this one whit two hands
14 June 2014 17:42
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
You see, thats how easy it was Ö )
14 June 2014 17:28
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
see ajas nii kopa ette, kui uut twitteri kontot teed siis nagu viskas kõik võimalike asju jalgpalli kohta ette, suht haige. Nuppu ka polnud "Ma pole ÜLDSE huvitatud" või siis "Oman jalgpalli ja muude mass teadvuse kontroll systeemide promomise häiret/alergiat" vms
14 June 2014 00:38
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
sellist jäätist kus rammu ja naturaalsust sees on ja nii palju kui süda jaksab
13 June 2014 12:45
Margus Meigo commented on Rane Balslev's post.
Group: Technology & Science News
...otherwise this would just creep out even shooter, as it does seem deeply disturbing and confusing indeed.10 June 2014 14:21
Margus Meigo commented on Rane Balslev's post.
Group: Technology & Science News
is the first one chekin in facebook from the smart phone ?
But yeah, maybe japanese kids would be able to stay and take a blanket but am pretty sure normal keeps would just run away screeming as would teachers.10 June 2014 14:20
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's photo.
goop picture man but cigarets are ugly
10 June 2014 14:16
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
meil oli rahe just eile :D
9 June 2014 09:17
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's post.
Hey, you are in greatevly mighty London again, for what ? :)
5 June 2014 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Tiits's post.
*nikutuse
4 June 2014 02:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kle läks soojaks jah :p
heas mottes
heas mottes
4 June 2014 02:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
If you say so, fellah, just know... i know "Another Tricky Day" for me some days as well ... bu Sun is still warm thought ;)
You can't always get it
When you really want it
You can't always get it at all
Just because there's space
In your life it's a waste
To spend your time why don't you wait for the call
(Just gotta get used to it)
We all get it in the end
(Just gotta get used to it)
We go down and we come up again
(Just gotta get used to it)
You irritate me my friend
(This is no social crisis)
This is you having fun
(No crisis)
Getting burned by the sun
(This is true)
This is no social crisis
Just another tricky day for you
You can always get higher
Just because you aspire
You could expire even knowing.
Don't push the hands
Just hang on to the band
You can dance while your knowledge is growing
(It could happen anytime)
You can't expect to never cry
(Patience is priceless)
Not when you try to fly so high
(Just stay on that line)
Rock and roll will never die
(This is no social crisis)
[etc.]
Another tricky day
Another gently nagging pain
What the papers say
Just seems to bring down heavier rain
The world seems in a spiral
Life seems such a worthless title
But break out and start a fire y'all
It's all here on the vinyl
(No crisis)
[etc.]
(Just gotta get used to it)
Gotta get used to waiting
(Just gotta get used to it)
You know how the ice is
(Just gotta get used to it)
It's thin where you're skating
(This is no social crisis)
[etc.]
Just another tricky day for you fellah :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhuLhcbY_08
random for some, for now, perhaps, ... for some time (kuid jah, tõsi ta on ka see mis räägid. Kuid postide osas on mul pea kõik olulisusega, sh komentaarid)
Still stoned?
You can't always get it
When you really want it
You can't always get it at all
Just because there's space
In your life it's a waste
To spend your time why don't you wait for the call
(Just gotta get used to it)
We all get it in the end
(Just gotta get used to it)
We go down and we come up again
(Just gotta get used to it)
You irritate me my friend
(This is no social crisis)
This is you having fun
(No crisis)
Getting burned by the sun
(This is true)
This is no social crisis
Just another tricky day for you
You can always get higher
Just because you aspire
You could expire even knowing.
Don't push the hands
Just hang on to the band
You can dance while your knowledge is growing
(It could happen anytime)
You can't expect to never cry
(Patience is priceless)
Not when you try to fly so high
(Just stay on that line)
Rock and roll will never die
(This is no social crisis)
[etc.]
Another tricky day
Another gently nagging pain
What the papers say
Just seems to bring down heavier rain
The world seems in a spiral
Life seems such a worthless title
But break out and start a fire y'all
It's all here on the vinyl
(No crisis)
[etc.]
(Just gotta get used to it)
Gotta get used to waiting
(Just gotta get used to it)
You know how the ice is
(Just gotta get used to it)
It's thin where you're skating
(This is no social crisis)
[etc.]
Just another tricky day for you fellah :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhuLhcbY_08
random for some, for now, perhaps, ... for some time (kuid jah, tõsi ta on ka see mis räägid. Kuid postide osas on mul pea kõik olulisusega, sh komentaarid)
Still stoned?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhuLhcbY_08
4 June 2014 02:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"Time Has Come Today"
Time has come today
Young hearts can go their way
Can't put it off another day
I don't care what others say
They say we don't listen anyway
Time has come today, hey
The room has changed today
I have no place to stay
I'm thinking about the subway
Mu love has blown away
My tears have come and gone
Oh'Lord I got to run
I got no home
No, I have no home
Now the time has come
Nowhere (place) to run
Might get burned up by the sun
But I'll have my fun
I've been loved, pushed (put) aside
I've been crushed by tumbling tide
And my soul has been psychedelicized
Now the time has come
There are things to realize
Time has come today
Time has come today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wanoXM90yHE
Time has come today
Young hearts can go their way
Can't put it off another day
I don't care what others say
They say we don't listen anyway
Time has come today, hey
The room has changed today
I have no place to stay
I'm thinking about the subway
Mu love has blown away
My tears have come and gone
Oh'Lord I got to run
I got no home
No, I have no home
Now the time has come
Nowhere (place) to run
Might get burned up by the sun
But I'll have my fun
I've been loved, pushed (put) aside
I've been crushed by tumbling tide
And my soul has been psychedelicized
Now the time has come
There are things to realize
Time has come today
Time has come today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wanoXM90yHE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wanoXM90yHE
4 June 2014 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
true, un thill i get married (but well, perhaps there is even backup for that, belief and hope gos last, you know)
4 June 2014 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
bdw, if you are a bit religious, not much is random in the sense of "no purpose"
bdw, illuminati belivers is just one of who we can help, should, in my book
bdw, illuminati belivers is just one of who we can help, should, in my book
4 June 2014 01:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
well, have not been "high" for long time, and yes we do need, LSD, for sure.
And if you can rap your mind ower my works then you must be the one who i have been looking for : ))
And if you can rap your mind ower my works then you must be the one who i have been looking for : ))
4 June 2014 01:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Why you think i ad "nati" front of the post header name ?
4 June 2014 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
dont think, just feel right ?
4 June 2014 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
have been working on bad sectors in last days hard, most of it is acceptable by now
and about stoned part, caring is sharing... care to share few g*s?
and about stoned part, caring is sharing... care to share few g*s?
4 June 2014 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
How you mean doesnt concern me? Am perhaps reptilian anunaki cross breed timefree android artifisial intelligence loaded super normal human for who all of this is basic everyday level. Considered that it might consern the ones who am caring for ?
And its not just Elfs am caring for
And its not just Elfs am caring for
4 June 2014 01:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"The whole concept behind this is the indoctrination of magic so that it allures children and gets them to play it out in real life. This is similar to Harry Potter, Masters of the Universe, and other occult themed children’s shows. You get the children to take part of the ritual and perform magic spells, whether they seem harmless or not is of no consequence. What matters is that they eventually grow up and subconsciously accept themes of white and black magic and the idea that one can become their own god without spiritual guidance. We see this taking place in New Age religions and concepts like The Secret. "
4 June 2014 01:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Maleficent vs. malevolent
Malevolent and maleficent are both adjectives describing wicked people or forces, but they differ slightly. Malevolence involves having ill will or wishing harm on others without necessarily acting on these feelings, while maleficence involves action intending to cause harm.
The words have opposites that similarly differ from each other. Benevolent, the opposite of malevolent, means bearing good will. Beneficent, the opposite of maleficent, means doing good or tending to do good. So malevolent and benevolent both primarily involve attitude instead of action, while maleficent and beneficent involve action.
Origins
Though the words share the root mal (i.e., bad), their immediate sources are different. Malevolent derives from the slightly older noun malevolence (meaning tending to wish ill on others), which comes from similar-sounding precursors in French and Latin. Maleficent comes from the now mostly obsolete noun malefice (meaning sorcery or an evil deed), which comes from the Latin maleficus.
http://grammarist.com/usage/maleficent-malevolent/
Malevolent and maleficent are both adjectives describing wicked people or forces, but they differ slightly. Malevolence involves having ill will or wishing harm on others without necessarily acting on these feelings, while maleficence involves action intending to cause harm.
The words have opposites that similarly differ from each other. Benevolent, the opposite of malevolent, means bearing good will. Beneficent, the opposite of maleficent, means doing good or tending to do good. So malevolent and benevolent both primarily involve attitude instead of action, while maleficent and beneficent involve action.
Origins
Though the words share the root mal (i.e., bad), their immediate sources are different. Malevolent derives from the slightly older noun malevolence (meaning tending to wish ill on others), which comes from similar-sounding precursors in French and Latin. Maleficent comes from the now mostly obsolete noun malefice (meaning sorcery or an evil deed), which comes from the Latin maleficus.
http://grammarist.com/usage/maleficent-malevolent/
http://grammarist.com/usage/maleficent-malevolent/
4 June 2014 01:33
Margus Meigo commented on Eha Liiver's photo.
Äitah! :))
3 June 2014 09:14
Margus Meigo commented on Annely Aotäht's photo.
Wou, mis lilled need on ? Tunnen peaaegu lõhna aga näe inimnimetust eip tea
3 June 2014 09:14
Margus Meigo commented on Ivana Viridiana's link.
I thought its Kate Bush for some reason before.
Syrr video ... so the old bearded guy tricked 5 year old in to smoking while being naked in bathtub by exploiting her wild femine wish to break free from superstital restraints of society...
I bet he smiled
as now She is hooked for sure, this wild bird soul
Syrr video ... so the old bearded guy tricked 5 year old in to smoking while being naked in bathtub by exploiting her wild femine wish to break free from superstital restraints of society...
I bet he smiled
as now She is hooked for sure, this wild bird soul
3 June 2014 09:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1863495743866&set=a.1863491663764.2105367.1135161043&type=3&theater
3 June 2014 09:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1863607866669&set=a.1863491663764.2105367.1135161043&type=3&theater back then i wish i was thought
3 June 2014 09:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(no i am not stoned)
3 June 2014 08:55
Margus Meigo commented on Tiia Sep's post.
Onne alati oige aeg soovida : )
3 June 2014 08:45
Margus Meigo commented on D James Spencer's photo.
Elupuu : )
3 June 2014 08:45
Margus Meigo commented on Marina Riisalu's photo.
Need wast kõige ilusamad lilled mis mul siin ekraanil un : )
3 June 2014 08:45
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
what was the anti-slut-shaming again?
3 June 2014 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
people should stop this communist propacanda where landlord (what a name...) can not send out the people in places SHe or he owns, whatever how.
Like its be on rediculas if people complain that they can not break in to other people houses anymore (the old squating law)
I mean, we have to make law so people will stop breaking in to houses where people live, how retarded can the population be? On the owner and state side...
and about buildings that is just empty for ages, well.. perhaps here can we talk, a bit, but even here just put jorself in to mindset of programmed brain who owns property that looses money already, specially if money is your religion...
its like (sometimes) someone coming and humping your wife and children while you will not keep eye on them and then will kindnap them and u have to go to court to proove its yours.. even if everyone sees that one is blue color and other one is orange ... but yea... if someone takes your cellphone or something else personal that they think they can use better then other one who is or is not owner of that whatever property... then yes.. we feel violated
And if people would then put better use, really better use of these places... but no... not mostly... rarely.
and about landlords.. well... who is to blame, that this person choose money system and living on OTHER person building and paing rent that is a bit unreligious instead thinking how to get proper own living, or at least living from person who is your friend and who you trust?
If its your friend one would not send u to street right ? ... so you rent from someone who is not related emotionly or religiously or spiritualy to u at all.. it might be even alien or cannibal or anty human or something, even capitalist sometimes... and then we make supriced noice and cry when they cold hartely throw someone on the street ?
How undeveloped is that
Like its be on rediculas if people complain that they can not break in to other people houses anymore (the old squating law)
I mean, we have to make law so people will stop breaking in to houses where people live, how retarded can the population be? On the owner and state side...
and about buildings that is just empty for ages, well.. perhaps here can we talk, a bit, but even here just put jorself in to mindset of programmed brain who owns property that looses money already, specially if money is your religion...
its like (sometimes) someone coming and humping your wife and children while you will not keep eye on them and then will kindnap them and u have to go to court to proove its yours.. even if everyone sees that one is blue color and other one is orange ... but yea... if someone takes your cellphone or something else personal that they think they can use better then other one who is or is not owner of that whatever property... then yes.. we feel violated
And if people would then put better use, really better use of these places... but no... not mostly... rarely.
and about landlords.. well... who is to blame, that this person choose money system and living on OTHER person building and paing rent that is a bit unreligious instead thinking how to get proper own living, or at least living from person who is your friend and who you trust?
If its your friend one would not send u to street right ? ... so you rent from someone who is not related emotionly or religiously or spiritualy to u at all.. it might be even alien or cannibal or anty human or something, even capitalist sometimes... and then we make supriced noice and cry when they cold hartely throw someone on the street ?
How undeveloped is that
3 June 2014 03:00
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
will do find appropriate words in my dreams, to explain this sillines
3 June 2014 02:48
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
And lets keep in mind, Roccafellers and those... are Communist,
Communism and Money system is pretty much most part orignated from same source,
just some arias of one or another have breaked the slave border system so the systems will use these bread aways as examples why "they" are good.
(mostly with aid of manipulating hstory and exjusing themself that "everybody lies" ... no there is no need...)
But yeah, capitalism seem to be for me, the front line of communism, other side of the blade (means five star, slave trade, suppression of all freedoms, and most of all anti religious openly, means anty human freedom in higgest sense ... not that any of it would really be able to have any threat force ifthey would just be human inovations... to handle sheeps and nature.)
Its really simple, is there christian churches or other religiouns who support long hair, nature care in deepest level, shaman plants and explaining us why or how femine is important for all life, but most of all Holy in higgest religious sence including all sexual acts and honesty.
What can we say about capitalist, communist and about plastic curchis respect of spirituality, female and nature (easy to recotnice also the fake spirits in shurch, mostly) ? Other thing they have common is to rediculate or flat out denay or killing off religions and folk knowledge (inside where most of the leligious knowledge rests as well).
I mean most of the sex shops, gangs, drug war and.... is it product of capitalist, communist or spiritual chistian churces, or zen masters perhaps ?
(no need to find bits here and bits here.. we talking about majorty, and what bible REALLY says, not the golden cathedrals where people wear slave ties on workhours or eating meat all the time, and call themself a beliver ...)
Its like so simple, how come people still keep pretending they do not get it? Like should they choose left or right... anty human or anty soul agenda... etc
Seriously, i feel emparished just on the need of finding explenations stories for simple things that can be seen with no words.
Communism and Money system is pretty much most part orignated from same source,
just some arias of one or another have breaked the slave border system so the systems will use these bread aways as examples why "they" are good.
(mostly with aid of manipulating hstory and exjusing themself that "everybody lies" ... no there is no need...)
But yeah, capitalism seem to be for me, the front line of communism, other side of the blade (means five star, slave trade, suppression of all freedoms, and most of all anti religious openly, means anty human freedom in higgest sense ... not that any of it would really be able to have any threat force ifthey would just be human inovations... to handle sheeps and nature.)
Its really simple, is there christian churches or other religiouns who support long hair, nature care in deepest level, shaman plants and explaining us why or how femine is important for all life, but most of all Holy in higgest religious sence including all sexual acts and honesty.
What can we say about capitalist, communist and about plastic curchis respect of spirituality, female and nature (easy to recotnice also the fake spirits in shurch, mostly) ? Other thing they have common is to rediculate or flat out denay or killing off religions and folk knowledge (inside where most of the leligious knowledge rests as well).
I mean most of the sex shops, gangs, drug war and.... is it product of capitalist, communist or spiritual chistian churces, or zen masters perhaps ?
(no need to find bits here and bits here.. we talking about majorty, and what bible REALLY says, not the golden cathedrals where people wear slave ties on workhours or eating meat all the time, and call themself a beliver ...)
Its like so simple, how come people still keep pretending they do not get it? Like should they choose left or right... anty human or anty soul agenda... etc
Seriously, i feel emparished just on the need of finding explenations stories for simple things that can be seen with no words.
3 June 2014 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
some say She/He will fix the 18.th problem soon enought, by using the friends of leaflet printers themselves to proove the point and show the meaning of efficiancy.
First Weekend seem to turn to Monday soon enought
First Weekend seem to turn to Monday soon enought
3 June 2014 02:27
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
its true about 15, actually there was only 2 requirements and rest of the book rests on these (You kow: Love neibghor and God)
But as people have some learning diffuculties and hearing as well, so all these (with perhaps exeption of "and") words seem hard to realize the meaning.
This does not stop them producing leaflets about joking about their mother vergina (and everything related to the reason why one even bothered to suffer the pain to produce offsprings), to say softly.
SO they should add, to be fair, to the end 18. point "Allowes to produce siblings with mind of these who printed this"
But as people have some learning diffuculties and hearing as well, so all these (with perhaps exeption of "and") words seem hard to realize the meaning.
This does not stop them producing leaflets about joking about their mother vergina (and everything related to the reason why one even bothered to suffer the pain to produce offsprings), to say softly.
SO they should add, to be fair, to the end 18. point "Allowes to produce siblings with mind of these who printed this"
3 June 2014 02:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kuid kui teil midagi head on hulgi, siis antke ikka teada
And hey, if someone does have great offers for Psychedelic, then we people in the woods are always waiting. Usually.
56721144 ja margus.meigo@eesti.ee ja kõik muud kontod netis mida leiad sobivat olevat : )
And hey, if someone does have great offers for Psychedelic, then we people in the woods are always waiting. Usually.
56721144 ja margus.meigo@eesti.ee ja kõik muud kontod netis mida leiad sobivat olevat : )
2 June 2014 13:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Muidu texti ka http://m.uploadedit.com/b035/1401704020501.txt (Some other more real text as well)
2 June 2014 13:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Message: Hello Donald, this is [Omitted]. I just have a couple of questions for you. If you could give me a call back at [Omitted], it'd be much appreciated.
So I called the number. The conversation that ensued went something like this:
Sleepy voice: Hello
Me: Hello. Is [Omitted] there?
Sleepy: Who is this?
Me: I'm returning a call he left on my answering machine.
Sleepy: Well, ok....
(Muffled conversation: "[Omitted]... Someone returning your call. You left a message on his answering machine.")
[Omitted]: Hello?
Me: This is Donald Watrous from Rutgers University. You left a message on my answering machine?
[Omitted]: Hi, how are you doing?
Me: Ok, how are you?
[Omitted]: Good.
Me: Would you mind telling me what this is about?
[Omitted]: Yes. Just a minute.
(pause -- perhaps a door closes)
Ok. First of all, let me tell you I'm not a cop.
Me: Ok....
[Omitted]: Well, I found your recipe on the internet.
Me: What recipe?
[Omitted]: It was in your html.
Me: Yes?
[Omitted]: It was a recipe for L... S... (long pause)
Me: LSD?
[Omitted]: Yes. I was wondering if you could help me with it.
Me: Did you read it?
[Omitted]: Yes.
Me: Really?
[Omitted]: Yes.
Me: It's a joke. It's a parody of the "Make Money Fast" chain letter.
[Omitted]: But when I looked at the chemistry, the chemical structure was very similar.
Me: But it's a joke.
[Omitted]: Oh. Ok. Sorry.
Goodbye.
Me: Goodbye.
So I called the number. The conversation that ensued went something like this:
Sleepy voice: Hello
Me: Hello. Is [Omitted] there?
Sleepy: Who is this?
Me: I'm returning a call he left on my answering machine.
Sleepy: Well, ok....
(Muffled conversation: "[Omitted]... Someone returning your call. You left a message on his answering machine.")
[Omitted]: Hello?
Me: This is Donald Watrous from Rutgers University. You left a message on my answering machine?
[Omitted]: Hi, how are you doing?
Me: Ok, how are you?
[Omitted]: Good.
Me: Would you mind telling me what this is about?
[Omitted]: Yes. Just a minute.
(pause -- perhaps a door closes)
Ok. First of all, let me tell you I'm not a cop.
Me: Ok....
[Omitted]: Well, I found your recipe on the internet.
Me: What recipe?
[Omitted]: It was in your html.
Me: Yes?
[Omitted]: It was a recipe for L... S... (long pause)
Me: LSD?
[Omitted]: Yes. I was wondering if you could help me with it.
Me: Did you read it?
[Omitted]: Yes.
Me: Really?
[Omitted]: Yes.
Me: It's a joke. It's a parody of the "Make Money Fast" chain letter.
[Omitted]: But when I looked at the chemistry, the chemical structure was very similar.
Me: But it's a joke.
[Omitted]: Oh. Ok. Sorry.
Goodbye.
Me: Goodbye.
2 June 2014 12:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"Recipe" email
While I was home for the holidays in December, 2003, I received this email in response to a "Make L$D Fast" chain letter (a spoof of the Dave Rhodes letter) I posted to the web.
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 11:55:23 -0800 (PST)
From: [Removed]
Subject: I need your help
To: watrous@cs.rutgers.edu
your instructions on how to make lsd were the simplest on the internet. I followed your recipe almost down to a tee but was not able to make lsd. here are the things that i think might have possibly gone wrong 1. I started my recipe with fosters beer only bottles instead of cans ,it boiled off at 32 hours. 2. what was left was ergot im sure i added milk but left in freezer a tad to long when i took out the milk was iced over,oops. 3.Stirred in the lysine but it said L-lysine on the bottle is this the same? Does the filler in the tablets hurt the recipe?(particularly microcellulose and magnesium stearate+silica) 4.used 3% hydrogen at 8 cups to substitute.5. my basement is about 68 degrees there I let it set for exactly three days at the end of which was still bubbling but had changed to a clearer liquid was the reaction complete?Will this temperature do?( I can get lysine out by dilluting in water removing the extra then evaporating, if necessary) I tried the dilution but it didnt work tried the pure which also failed. Hopefully you can help me find my mistake I am down to my last penny just as you were in 88 I pray for your help.
Sincerely,
[Removed]
I took it to be a joke response in the spirit of the page it was referencing and even replied "This is funny. Mind if I publish it on my web site?" Then I got a follow up phone call:
While I was home for the holidays in December, 2003, I received this email in response to a "Make L$D Fast" chain letter (a spoof of the Dave Rhodes letter) I posted to the web.
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 11:55:23 -0800 (PST)
From: [Removed]
Subject: I need your help
To: watrous@cs.rutgers.edu
your instructions on how to make lsd were the simplest on the internet. I followed your recipe almost down to a tee but was not able to make lsd. here are the things that i think might have possibly gone wrong 1. I started my recipe with fosters beer only bottles instead of cans ,it boiled off at 32 hours. 2. what was left was ergot im sure i added milk but left in freezer a tad to long when i took out the milk was iced over,oops. 3.Stirred in the lysine but it said L-lysine on the bottle is this the same? Does the filler in the tablets hurt the recipe?(particularly microcellulose and magnesium stearate+silica) 4.used 3% hydrogen at 8 cups to substitute.5. my basement is about 68 degrees there I let it set for exactly three days at the end of which was still bubbling but had changed to a clearer liquid was the reaction complete?Will this temperature do?( I can get lysine out by dilluting in water removing the extra then evaporating, if necessary) I tried the dilution but it didnt work tried the pure which also failed. Hopefully you can help me find my mistake I am down to my last penny just as you were in 88 I pray for your help.
Sincerely,
[Removed]
I took it to be a joke response in the spirit of the page it was referencing and even replied "This is funny. Mind if I publish it on my web site?" Then I got a follow up phone call:
2 June 2014 12:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
It's a SMALL cube of PURE LSD -- 30 GRAMS. On the STREET, it sells
"... for a AMAZING SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. It fits in your pocket and, more importantly, YOU CAN MAKE IT IN YOUR OWN HOME FOLLOWING MY SIMPLE INSTRUCTIONS.
LSD can be derived from the ergot virus which is commonly found on
hops and wheat. While it's possible to scrape the virus off the stalks
of these plants, there's a much easier way to get ergot...
Foster's Beer is one of the few beers made with ergot-containing grains,
and it is definitely the most available. First, you'll need some big, blue
cans of Foster's Beer, which you can purchase at most local supermarkets.
1. Buy 12 cans of Foster's Beer. In a pan, heat the beer to a slow boil, in
order to remove the water and isolate the ergot-containing compounds.
Boiling off the water should take approximately 36 hours -- don't rush
the process, or you risk damaging the ergot-containing compounds. As
the beer evaporates, simply add more beer. In this way, eventually, you'll
have the essential compounds from all 12 beers in the bottom of the pan.
2. It's now necessary to pH neutralize the slightly acidic ergotamine
solution, using a weak base. No-fat household milk is ideal for the job.
Mix in 1/4 cup of no-fat milk (be *sure* not to use milk with any milkfat)
and wait 30 minutes for the solution to reach equilibrium. At this point,
you have a weak solution of ergotamine with which you can continue the
process. It should be a creamy brown color and a bit gooey. Be careful,
because ergotamine is
3. Next, it's necessary to combine lysine with the ergotamine solution.
Lysine is available in most health food stores. You'll need about 2
grams of lysine (that's 20 100mg pills). Cool the ergotamine solution
to near freezing in your freezer (to avoid desosphyxiation with CO2
in the air). Now, simply grind the pills into a powder and mix into
your ergotamine solution. You now have lysergic acid.
4. You *want* LSD, lysergic acid diethylamide, however, and so you need
to ethylate your compound and then ammonate it. Sound hard?
Simply add ethyl alcohol to the lysergic acid mixture. Pure grain
alcohol is ideal, but Bacardi 151 or some other high-proof alcohol will
work fine. Add 1 cup of pure alcohol, 1 1/3 cup of 151 proof, or
2 cups of 100 proof. Now, to remove the hydroxyls, add 6 cups of 4%
hydrogen peroxide (available at your local pharmacy) or 24 cups of
1% (stronger is better)
Be careful, because now your compound is [Keep it away from open flames]
5. Now, for the final step in preparation, add 4 ounces of pure ammonia to
the solution and let sit at room temperature for 3 days. This waiting
period allows for the slow reaction to take place -- at higher
temperatures this reaction occurs much more quickly, but you risk
decomposition of the LSD. At the end of the three days, you've done it!
The expected yield of LSD is 100 grams, over 1,000,000 doses! Be VERY,
VERY careful at this point, because the solution you're dealing with is
*extremely* *concentrated*. If any gets on your hands, you could be
tripping for years! Now, put about 20 gallons of water in a barrel,and
stir in the LSD using a large oar. At this level of dilution, a 1/4
cup contains about 100 hits. You can dispense the hits using an eye
dropper (3 or 4 drops per hit)...."
"... for a AMAZING SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. It fits in your pocket and, more importantly, YOU CAN MAKE IT IN YOUR OWN HOME FOLLOWING MY SIMPLE INSTRUCTIONS.
LSD can be derived from the ergot virus which is commonly found on
hops and wheat. While it's possible to scrape the virus off the stalks
of these plants, there's a much easier way to get ergot...
Foster's Beer is one of the few beers made with ergot-containing grains,
and it is definitely the most available. First, you'll need some big, blue
cans of Foster's Beer, which you can purchase at most local supermarkets.
1. Buy 12 cans of Foster's Beer. In a pan, heat the beer to a slow boil, in
order to remove the water and isolate the ergot-containing compounds.
Boiling off the water should take approximately 36 hours -- don't rush
the process, or you risk damaging the ergot-containing compounds. As
the beer evaporates, simply add more beer. In this way, eventually, you'll
have the essential compounds from all 12 beers in the bottom of the pan.
2. It's now necessary to pH neutralize the slightly acidic ergotamine
solution, using a weak base. No-fat household milk is ideal for the job.
Mix in 1/4 cup of no-fat milk (be *sure* not to use milk with any milkfat)
and wait 30 minutes for the solution to reach equilibrium. At this point,
you have a weak solution of ergotamine with which you can continue the
process. It should be a creamy brown color and a bit gooey. Be careful,
because ergotamine is
3. Next, it's necessary to combine lysine with the ergotamine solution.
Lysine is available in most health food stores. You'll need about 2
grams of lysine (that's 20 100mg pills). Cool the ergotamine solution
to near freezing in your freezer (to avoid desosphyxiation with CO2
in the air). Now, simply grind the pills into a powder and mix into
your ergotamine solution. You now have lysergic acid.
4. You *want* LSD, lysergic acid diethylamide, however, and so you need
to ethylate your compound and then ammonate it. Sound hard?
Simply add ethyl alcohol to the lysergic acid mixture. Pure grain
alcohol is ideal, but Bacardi 151 or some other high-proof alcohol will
work fine. Add 1 cup of pure alcohol, 1 1/3 cup of 151 proof, or
2 cups of 100 proof. Now, to remove the hydroxyls, add 6 cups of 4%
hydrogen peroxide (available at your local pharmacy) or 24 cups of
1% (stronger is better)
Be careful, because now your compound is [Keep it away from open flames]
5. Now, for the final step in preparation, add 4 ounces of pure ammonia to
the solution and let sit at room temperature for 3 days. This waiting
period allows for the slow reaction to take place -- at higher
temperatures this reaction occurs much more quickly, but you risk
decomposition of the LSD. At the end of the three days, you've done it!
The expected yield of LSD is 100 grams, over 1,000,000 doses! Be VERY,
VERY careful at this point, because the solution you're dealing with is
*extremely* *concentrated*. If any gets on your hands, you could be
tripping for years! Now, put about 20 gallons of water in a barrel,and
stir in the LSD using a large oar. At this level of dilution, a 1/4
cup contains about 100 hits. You can dispense the hits using an eye
dropper (3 or 4 drops per hit)...."
2 June 2014 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Dear Friend,
My name is Dave Rhodes. In September 1988 my car was reposessed and
the bill collectors were hounding me like you wouldn't believe. I was
laid off and my unemployment checks had run out. The only escape I
had from the pressure of failure was my lab set and chemistry textbook.
I longed to turn my advocation into my vocation.
Follow my recipe and your dreams will come true.
Sincerely yours,
http://www.cs.rutgers.edu/~watrous/lsd.html
By: Dave Rhodes
It's a SINGLE DOSE of LSD -- 50 MICROgrams. On the STREET, it sells
for about TEN DOLLARS. It's small enough to fit on the head of a pin.
Dave Rhodes
My name is Dave Rhodes. In September 1988 my car was reposessed and
the bill collectors were hounding me like you wouldn't believe. I was
laid off and my unemployment checks had run out. The only escape I
had from the pressure of failure was my lab set and chemistry textbook.
I longed to turn my advocation into my vocation.
Follow my recipe and your dreams will come true.
Sincerely yours,
http://www.cs.rutgers.edu/~watrous/lsd.html
By: Dave Rhodes
It's a SINGLE DOSE of LSD -- 50 MICROgrams. On the STREET, it sells
for about TEN DOLLARS. It's small enough to fit on the head of a pin.
Dave Rhodes
http://www.cs.rutgers.edu/~watrous/lsd.html
2 June 2014 12:08
Margus Meigo commented on Hamilton Souther's post.
Group: LSD DMT and Psychedelic drugs in perspective
..butstill shaved a beard...2 June 2014 11:09
Margus Meigo commented on Jeff Youngblood's post.
Group: I'm proud to say that LSD-25 has contributed positively to my life.
thats fassist :p
(in a way,no?)2 June 2014 10:56
Margus Meigo commented on Jeff Youngblood's post.
Group: I'm proud to say that LSD-25 has contributed positively to my life.
what means segregated?2 June 2014 10:42
Margus Meigo commented on Skip Jones's post.
Group: Blotter Art Repository
Am almoust sure He would want something like that instead
About Laura and Huxley
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/03/most-beautiful-death.html
http://psychedelics.com/psilocybe/psilocybin.htmlhttp://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/03/most-beautiful-death.html
2 June 2014 10:34
Margus Meigo commented on Skip Jones's post.
Group: Blotter Art Repository
Well, personally he should know what people think he has...
I would know, then one can self hypnotise, go inside the mind... contact with our inner healer and give them the manifest about what we want to heal.
Also good big dosage of magic mushrooms for sure, and plants for naural relax and energy.
None of the ordinary pain "killers" should be used as its showing to the nature and god you have little faith and trust on what has created for you.
Was first thinking for soft energy something like that but there might be some activation of canser and internal organ dames with these natural simulants.:
Camellia sinensis (Theae folium, Chinease tea, tebuske or Green Tea).. good for Canser and gives energy
or / and
Cola acuminata (Colae semen) for central nerve energy for heart and mind, (three times a day tea..) they say makes life longer.2 June 2014 10:28
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's link.
you are delightful
2 June 2014 00:27
Margus Meigo commented on Judy Wong Dobberpuhl's post.
Group: The Anunnaki Earth Council
Complete Healing of anything that is needed, travel in space with no racket and chaning of materia, speaking with plants and animals and knowing how to respect and care for parents and Women,
was, is, will be one of the basic human tecnologgys,
Not forgetten at all, no hidden, remember2 June 2014 00:19
Margus Meigo commented on Gregg Prescott's post.
Group: The Anunnaki Earth Council
Lets start to be honest and most of all LOVE (care, respect, nurture, be friend) with your neighbor, literally. IN all directions geographically.
Does not take lot of tecnology or reading... just try to dive in to other worlds to see you are not alone and that same time there is SO many different worlds. IN us,. Around us. For us. ...okey, back to Earth.
Not much wrong with it here, really, except humans might or might not be all gone. For good of oters...
How come we come so far and can not ecen read with deep care most of the holy books, and pick up most essential basic that WILL solve All problems and WILL teach us ALL we need and would ever dream to know about, does not mater if you are living next to Android or Vampire or Ferry.. ALL it takes, is, really, vizualise it when this becomes truth, no worryes who is who... vizualise as higgest, bought of the 2 options in All the time and as friends same time who are related to everything in ways that is needed on givem (timeless)moment:
Love neigbhor and God2 June 2014 00:15
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's link.
no, i like my balls with light hairs on, looks better on christmas time
29 May 2014 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Lee's link.
... its like there is growing some plants and shrooms that have answer... i know... have heard something like that...
29 May 2014 02:14
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Lee's link.
... thats what we are really worryng about, can they be helped, even if they do not use any... there should be some way
29 May 2014 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Lee's link.
no question about addction, but can the cure these people who ask questions like that still ?
29 May 2014 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Lee's post.
so true bdw
I do think humans are mine :P
I do think humans are mine :P
29 May 2014 02:12
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Lee's post.
(The Sun is in Taurus from approximately April 20 to May 20, depending on the year).
There is something very solid about Taurus natives, no matter what the rest of their charts say about them. Though they are dependable most of the time, this generally shows itself more in habit than in outright helpfulness.
Taurus natives are sensual folk--and this includes sex, but extends to pleasures in all areas: they delight in the sensual pleasures of food, a comfortable blanket, a richly colored aquarium to look at, the smell of flowers or spring rain, pleasing melodies coming from their stereos, and so forth. Some might even say they live through their senses more than most.
When Taurus natives work, they work hard. They do it with a steadiness that may rarely be considered quick--rather it's a dependable, plodding, and steady effort that has its payoffs. Security is immensely important to Taurus--some of them actively seek wealth, while others are content to be "comfortable". The Taurus definition of "comfortable" may not be exactly the same as the rest of the signs, but comfort is definitely a driving force.
Although hard-working, their fixed and comfort-loving nature sometimes makes them appear lazy. This is only because they separate work and leisure so well. When they work, they work hard, and when they play, they don't really "play" as such...they relax. A Solar Taurus who has kicked his or her feet up is rooted there--you'd be hard-pressed to get them to move. On a mental level, you'll likely have the same problem. Taureans stick with things and ideas, and therein lies one of the reasons why they are known for their stubbornness. Taurus is a fixed sign, and they have a fair measure of tradition and steadiness in their make-up that keeps them rooted.
The possessiveness associated with Taurus shows up in all areas of life in some way. Taurus likes to own things (and sometimes people). A nice home, a piece of land (this can be modest), a paid-off car, that aquarium mentioned earlier, a couple pets, maybe a solid business...In love and relationship, there is an earthy kind of possessiveness that may be considered jealousy by some, but there is actually quite a difference between being possessive and being jealous. Taurus natives are rarely jealous and petty. They do, however, think of the people they love as theirs--it adds to their sense of security.
Some Famous People with Sun in Taurus: Cher (Sun and Mercury in Taurus), George Clooney (Sun and Mercury in Taurus), Joe Cocker (Sun, Moon, Mercury, and Venus in Taurus), Adolf Hitler (Sun, Venus, and Mars in Taurus), George Lucas (Sun, Mercury, and Venus in Taurus), Rene Zellweger (Sun and Mercury in Taurus)
Awww , Hitler As well,
There is something very solid about Taurus natives, no matter what the rest of their charts say about them. Though they are dependable most of the time, this generally shows itself more in habit than in outright helpfulness.
Taurus natives are sensual folk--and this includes sex, but extends to pleasures in all areas: they delight in the sensual pleasures of food, a comfortable blanket, a richly colored aquarium to look at, the smell of flowers or spring rain, pleasing melodies coming from their stereos, and so forth. Some might even say they live through their senses more than most.
When Taurus natives work, they work hard. They do it with a steadiness that may rarely be considered quick--rather it's a dependable, plodding, and steady effort that has its payoffs. Security is immensely important to Taurus--some of them actively seek wealth, while others are content to be "comfortable". The Taurus definition of "comfortable" may not be exactly the same as the rest of the signs, but comfort is definitely a driving force.
Although hard-working, their fixed and comfort-loving nature sometimes makes them appear lazy. This is only because they separate work and leisure so well. When they work, they work hard, and when they play, they don't really "play" as such...they relax. A Solar Taurus who has kicked his or her feet up is rooted there--you'd be hard-pressed to get them to move. On a mental level, you'll likely have the same problem. Taureans stick with things and ideas, and therein lies one of the reasons why they are known for their stubbornness. Taurus is a fixed sign, and they have a fair measure of tradition and steadiness in their make-up that keeps them rooted.
The possessiveness associated with Taurus shows up in all areas of life in some way. Taurus likes to own things (and sometimes people). A nice home, a piece of land (this can be modest), a paid-off car, that aquarium mentioned earlier, a couple pets, maybe a solid business...In love and relationship, there is an earthy kind of possessiveness that may be considered jealousy by some, but there is actually quite a difference between being possessive and being jealous. Taurus natives are rarely jealous and petty. They do, however, think of the people they love as theirs--it adds to their sense of security.
Some Famous People with Sun in Taurus: Cher (Sun and Mercury in Taurus), George Clooney (Sun and Mercury in Taurus), Joe Cocker (Sun, Moon, Mercury, and Venus in Taurus), Adolf Hitler (Sun, Venus, and Mars in Taurus), George Lucas (Sun, Mercury, and Venus in Taurus), Rene Zellweger (Sun and Mercury in Taurus)
Awww , Hitler As well,
29 May 2014 02:12
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
get some proper porrridge
29 May 2014 02:09
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
LOve You
29 May 2014 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's link.
nagu õnn
29 May 2014 01:51
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's link.
Kle paris hea
29 May 2014 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's link.
does it matter when it gets you hugh and you can have more life in 30 minutes then some with 50 yers?
29 May 2014 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on Ethereal Exposition's photo.
belief is fundamentation of life and any kind of beginning of smartness, unless we progress faster only thanks to beliving, its so simple
29 May 2014 01:42
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
aaa näe kurki on ka!
29 May 2014 01:41
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
lastele antakse kõige rämpsumat rämpsu lihaga kohe varakult... nagu päris valus tegelt
29 May 2014 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
nii ongi parem, uuena
29 May 2014 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's link.
tit mining would be worth an effort
29 May 2014 01:36
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's link.
fk the drugs if we can get some tits with it
29 May 2014 01:36
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
Are you good one?
(...for Who.... one might asks... good for who...)
(...for Who.... one might asks... good for who...)
27 May 2014 01:21
Margus Meigo commented on Aleksandar Trickovic's post.
Thank you thankyou, if i would only know if i have one :D
16 May 2014 01:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aarggh... these peeps... i did thought what happened with uploads that some did not arrive. ...
LOL, no i have not jet saved, u know... beards getting popular here now... look at latest Eurovision contest winner :D
LOL, no i have not jet saved, u know... beards getting popular here now... look at latest Eurovision contest winner :D
16 May 2014 01:52
Margus Meigo commented on Kaidi Aumere-Antila's post.
korjaks ülesse
16 May 2014 01:50
Margus Meigo commented on Kaidi Aumere-Antila's post.
Vajaka Vajaka. Kuhu sellele õnnele ka järgi tulla saab?
16 May 2014 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
NU hakkas väljast, sest mine tea... kui üks nõel juba oli siis vast teine veel, ja siis vast võib teine kuskil väljas olla... ju? ...kui just vaga ime nõel pole mida aint üks maailmas... kuid kuidas teada, et üks kui pole kogu ilma sisse vaadanud... :)
..ja pealegi.. rotid võisid tolle vabalt välja küll viia kui tuba korralikult läbi vaadatud sai ja polnud... eriti kui mitu rotti, nood samad kes kiire nööbid piizdu panid... või kas ikka panid?
..ja pealegi.. rotid võisid tolle vabalt välja küll viia kui tuba korralikult läbi vaadatud sai ja polnud... eriti kui mitu rotti, nood samad kes kiire nööbid piizdu panid... või kas ikka panid?
16 May 2014 01:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Well, not really in to xelebrating these days anymoe...
But something like that
But something like that
16 May 2014 01:06
Margus Meigo commented on Härra Floyd's post.
Kui palju ? :p
16 May 2014 01:01
Margus Meigo commented on Janne Kaju's photo.
Küündlad puhutud, !
eip veel mitte! ...
eip veel mitte! ...
16 May 2014 01:01
Margus Meigo commented on Kaili Krausberg's post.
,,, ja igaks muuks päevaks ka!
Äitah!
Äitah!
16 May 2014 01:00
Margus Meigo commented on Heli Tamm's post.
: ))
Äitah!
Äitah!
16 May 2014 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on Meego Remmel's post.
Meeldiv, tänud Meego Remmel
16 May 2014 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek Saviir's post.
Aitah Sõber!
Jää ise ka elama!
Jää ise ka elama!
16 May 2014 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ema antud, halle
16 May 2014 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
BDW, working soon to get back to run the https://www.facebook.com/The.Russian.Federation
facebook.com
Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia
15 May 2014 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
In your MilkyWay
They do not give a F...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Sd5c4o9UM
Angel or .. or are they DNA?
Yours to Change
Inglis..Inglid või on node "DNA" me teha...
Sest meil külas "Kui ilus keha siis tuleb ära teha"
They do not give a F...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Sd5c4o9UM
Angel or .. or are they DNA?
Yours to Change
Inglis..Inglid või on node "DNA" me teha...
Sest meil külas "Kui ilus keha siis tuleb ära teha"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Sd5c4o9UM
7 May 2014 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Also try that when time Is (mandatory maybe)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnG4lpcn9aM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnG4lpcn9aM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnG4lpcn9aM
7 May 2014 19:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
... and referring to my post up there about 42, and about "our" possible the most needed Value on earth - Female, . What you earthland have to offer with your lousy ways to the ET*s ? Seriously thing about while listening next song from Katy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ttzWuaPGMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ttzWuaPGMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ttzWuaPGMo
7 May 2014 19:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.google.ee/search?q=the+answer+to+life+the+universe+and+everything&client=opera&oe=UTF-8&hl=et&nfpr&spell=1&oq=the+answer+to+life+the+universe+and+everything
https://www.google.ee/search?q=the+answer+to+life+the+universe+and+everything&client=opera&oe=UTF-8&hl=et&nfpr&spell=1&oq=the+answer+to+life+the+universe+and+everything
7 May 2014 19:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"Pereema sõnul võib ju mehel olla omadusi, millega ei saa päris rahul olla, kuid ta vaatab sellest mööda, sest see pole oluline. Keskenduda tuleb headele omadustele." Hmm...
Kui me lohakate inimestega ennast paaritame kes ei allu, siis kuri karjas
Kui me lohakate inimestega ennast paaritame kes ei allu, siis kuri karjas
7 May 2014 18:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://uudised.err.ee/v/eesti/e688ff02-70d6-4ad7-8f44-dad6f8ff7b94
http://naistekas.delfi.ee/rasedus/beebi/kolmapaeval-delfi-tv-s-vaata-konverentsi-tahan-last-aga-normaalset-meest-ei-ole.d?id=68611203
http://naine24.postimees.ee/2783076/otseulekanne-konverentsilt-tahan-last-aga-normaalset-meest-ei-ole
Ajakava:
11.00 Moderaator Hannes Hermaküla
11.05 Konverentsi avab Ingrid Rüütel, humanitaarteaduste doktor
11.15 Helmen Kütt, sotsiaalminister "Milleks meile lapsed?"
11.35 Külvi Kivisild, 10 lapse ema "Mida lapsed on mulle andnud?"
11.55 Intervjuu: Kadi ja Indrek Tarand "Mis meid koos hoiab?"
12.20 Kohvipaus (20 min)
12.40 Karmen Maikalu, psühholoog, PREP-paarisuhtekoolitaja "Tahan last, aga üksi ei saa!"
13.00 Kristiina Uriko, psühholoog "Sünnituskogemus ja tundetarkus"
13.20 Kaia Iva, kasulapse ema "Kui laps ei kasva südame all vaid südames"
13.40 Intervjuu: Ivo Saarma, naistearst "Kuidas saada emaks? Kõigele vaatamata"
14.00 Paneeldiskussioon "Miks tasub Eestis saada lapsevanemaks?"
Karel Rüütli / Yoko Alender / Laine Randjärv / Yana Toom
14.45 Lõppsõna, Hannes Hermaküla
http://naistekas.delfi.ee/rasedus/beebi/kolmapaeval-delfi-tv-s-vaata-konverentsi-tahan-last-aga-normaalset-meest-ei-ole.d?id=68611203
http://naine24.postimees.ee/2783076/otseulekanne-konverentsilt-tahan-last-aga-normaalset-meest-ei-ole
Ajakava:
11.00 Moderaator Hannes Hermaküla
11.05 Konverentsi avab Ingrid Rüütel, humanitaarteaduste doktor
11.15 Helmen Kütt, sotsiaalminister "Milleks meile lapsed?"
11.35 Külvi Kivisild, 10 lapse ema "Mida lapsed on mulle andnud?"
11.55 Intervjuu: Kadi ja Indrek Tarand "Mis meid koos hoiab?"
12.20 Kohvipaus (20 min)
12.40 Karmen Maikalu, psühholoog, PREP-paarisuhtekoolitaja "Tahan last, aga üksi ei saa!"
13.00 Kristiina Uriko, psühholoog "Sünnituskogemus ja tundetarkus"
13.20 Kaia Iva, kasulapse ema "Kui laps ei kasva südame all vaid südames"
13.40 Intervjuu: Ivo Saarma, naistearst "Kuidas saada emaks? Kõigele vaatamata"
14.00 Paneeldiskussioon "Miks tasub Eestis saada lapsevanemaks?"
Karel Rüütli / Yoko Alender / Laine Randjärv / Yana Toom
14.45 Lõppsõna, Hannes Hermaküla
http://uudised.err.ee/v/eesti/e688ff02-70d6-4ad7-8f44-dad6f8ff7b94
7 May 2014 17:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.lifegooroo.com/find-love/what-this-dating-guru-has-to-say-about-women-might-shock-you?utm_source=taboola&utm_campaign=66536
http://www.lifegooroo.com/find-love/what-this-dating-guru-has-to-say-about-women-might-shock-you?utm_source=taboola&utm_campaign=66536
7 May 2014 17:40
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
Greeting from Estland, yo!
7 May 2014 17:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf5c7xOePcU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf5c7xOePcU
5 May 2014 19:05
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
ag nii ongi ju! :p
(lapse keeli - kui isa ka kodust lahkunud siis ema KA tegeleb endaga kuskil ja minuga ei mängi, mind jäätakse üksi)
(lapse keeli - kui isa ka kodust lahkunud siis ema KA tegeleb endaga kuskil ja minuga ei mängi, mind jäätakse üksi)
3 May 2014 12:15
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
true lies
3 May 2014 03:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: С С С Р
And same time articles like that
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/05/01/everything-old-is-new-again-moscow-celebrates-may-day-in-red-square-for-first-time-since-1991/http://hotair.com/archives/2014/05/01/everything-old-is-new-again-moscow-celebrates-may-day-in-red-square-for-first-time-since-1991/
2 May 2014 13:26
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
mitte meelte, vaid rahurikkumisteta st,
meeled saavad rikutuks ainuüksi pilte vaadates tagantjärele
meeled saavad rikutuks ainuüksi pilte vaadates tagantjärele
2 May 2014 13:16
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Võimas,
Peale 2st sõda suurimad pidustused olivat olnud, yle 3 millioni inimese, ilma suurtemata meelterikkumisteta,
ikkagi...kultuursed inimesed
Peale 2st sõda suurimad pidustused olivat olnud, yle 3 millioni inimese, ilma suurtemata meelterikkumisteta,
ikkagi...kultuursed inimesed
2 May 2014 13:15
Margus Meigo commented on Asse Sauga's post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
Nu eks mu silmis see kapitalism ja kommarid arvatava sama Kolli kaks kätt2 May 2014 03:51
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
hahahaha :D
2 May 2014 00:47
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
..."when women works hard for choosig man..."
nahui sel naisel vaja rabeleda on kui mees normaalne on, ideaalses olukorras mul endal kyll sov poleks, naist tyyle kodust kupatada, parem et ta ikka oleks ja teeks mida sooviks, siis kui soovib... siis vast kõik parem, aitab kui pool perest orjastatud on
nahui sel naisel vaja rabeleda on kui mees normaalne on, ideaalses olukorras mul endal kyll sov poleks, naist tyyle kodust kupatada, parem et ta ikka oleks ja teeks mida sooviks, siis kui soovib... siis vast kõik parem, aitab kui pool perest orjastatud on
2 May 2014 00:46
Margus Meigo commented on Ilmar Miks's post.
ka nimupoolt käsi õlale ilmar, kuulsin just emalt
2 May 2014 00:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
Et filosofeerida mis need plaanid "neil" tegelt on, ja mine tea mida head leiame.
Nad ise vaga ammu juba raakinud ja soovinud yhtset maailma raha systeemi,
Lisaks kuna vatikan ütles, et hakkab pangasysteeme pigistama ja, et võlgasi tagasi ei pea maksma. ja kuuldavasti Hiinal international banking kontonumbrite yle ka ühte teist yelda oli... siis need kes ennast selle maailma eesotsaks peavad... kindlasti ammu mõelnud, mida enda huvide kaitseks teha (huvide hulka mõnel käib ka inimeste lõoa otsas hoidmine, vist)
Usun endiselt, et kuna keegi nemad raha "omanikud" siis nad otsustavad kuidas ja mis rahad enamusel inimestel kasutuses on tulevikus1 May 2014 04:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Maiken on nii Hea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoDGHoFVZpQ#t=76
Tulev
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoDGHoFVZpQ#t=76
Tulev
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoDGHoFVZpQ#t=76
30 April 2014 03:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
terve nahaga Sa Taevasse ei pääse,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG0G8A-3uoo&list=PLJChCZjw3lYz1gXVwahkWVnbjH_1Qa3HC
ainus asi mida tunned on sugutung
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG0G8A-3uoo&list=PLJChCZjw3lYz1gXVwahkWVnbjH_1Qa3HC
ainus asi mida tunned on sugutung
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG0G8A-3uoo&list=PLJChCZjw3lYz1gXVwahkWVnbjH_1Qa3HC
30 April 2014 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
ainult nii Tulevikus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06-VVNUG0CM&list=PLJChCZjw3lYz1gXVwahkWVnbjH_1Qa3HC
kuhjub veel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06-VVNUG0CM&list=PLJChCZjw3lYz1gXVwahkWVnbjH_1Qa3HC
kuhjub veel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06-VVNUG0CM&list=PLJChCZjw3lYz1gXVwahkWVnbjH_1Qa3HC
30 April 2014 03:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p88ZOOKD0Lw&list=PLJChCZjw3lYz1gXVwahkWVnbjH_1Qa3HC
tegelt rohkem, kui 12 kuud...
tegelt rohkem, kui 12 kuud...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p88ZOOKD0Lw&list=PLJChCZjw3lYz1gXVwahkWVnbjH_1Qa3HC
30 April 2014 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Best of Music From All Over the World
Mulle meeldisid need lyyrikad sellisena nagu ma neid ette kujutasin,
its sad how these lyrics are shown in these days, something extremely important is shown here, ...look in to it if you notice... what they really sing about .. and what is done29 April 2014 22:53
Margus Meigo commented on Vedran Valentic's video.
huskvarna nje rabotjet pljä,t
29 April 2014 22:42
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Põldsam's post.
Group: Best of Music From All Over the World
Wao, äitah!
Sõnad
Joogid Otsas, Aeg On Minna Koju
Ainus Ese Seal On Roosa Laud
Poolik Vein, Pool Nälgin'd Kassiroju
Siiski Pelgupaik Ta Mul - Ja Vist Ka Haud
Sitta Sellest Saaks Vaid Kõigest Rahu
Ainsaks Sõbraks Mul On Peegelpilt
Läheks Küsiks Naabrilt Veidi Jahu
Kooki Praeks Kuid Pilku Püüab Tuttav Silt ...;-) !
Sest Mul On Veel Veini
Mul On Veel Veini Küll
Mul On Veel Veini
Ja Ma Ise Olen Kunn
Või Munn
Meenub Kõrtsis Sokki Peidet' Raha
See Tekitab Mus Soovi Elada
Süütan Küünlad, Täna Teen Mis Tahan
Klaasid Löön Ma Veel Kord Kokku Peegliga
Sest Mul On Veel Veini
Mul On Veel Veini Küll
Mul On Veel Veini
Ja Ma Ise Olen Kunn
Või Munn29 April 2014 22:33
Margus Meigo commented on Käru kommuun's link.
Talgujuhi telefon 56356139
Talgujuhi e-post heili.burmeister@gmail.com
Kogunemine Käru mõisa ees kell 11.
http://talgud.teemeara.ee/events/karu-paisjarve-talgud
Talgujuhi e-post heili.burmeister@gmail.com
Kogunemine Käru mõisa ees kell 11.
http://talgud.teemeara.ee/events/karu-paisjarve-talgud
http://talgud.teemeara.ee/events/karu-paisjarve-talgud
29 April 2014 17:32
Margus Meigo commented on Käru kommuun's link.
Talgujuhi telefon 53451781
Talgujuhi e-post mait.leemet@mail.ee
Keeled mida talgujuht räägib Eesti, Vene, Inglise
Kogunemine Koguneme Raudteeaida kõrval asuvas parklas kell 09.00
http://talgud.teemeara.ee/events/karu-raudteeaida-umbruse-korrastamine
Talgujuhi e-post mait.leemet@mail.ee
Keeled mida talgujuht räägib Eesti, Vene, Inglise
Kogunemine Koguneme Raudteeaida kõrval asuvas parklas kell 09.00
http://talgud.teemeara.ee/events/karu-raudteeaida-umbruse-korrastamine
http://talgud.teemeara.ee/events/karu-raudteeaida-umbruse-korrastamine
29 April 2014 17:30
Margus Meigo commented on Ethereal Exposition's photo.
See maagiline kuid Dzungel või tihe eesti mets veel maagilisem
29 April 2014 17:15
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
you so spontanious about opinions of London
29 April 2014 16:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
pay attention to the words, logic and ..
" On 25 December 2013 the interim Egyptian government declared the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist group as a response to an attack on a police headquarters in Mansoura on 23 December 2013. The same day however, Ansar Bait al-Maqdis, a Sinai-based group, declared responsibility for the bombing, but till this moment the government still hasn't withdrawn from its declaration"
DID you get it? and now reneder all the other information about russia inflatration of egypt, mass murders of thousands in last months by new "popular demand millitary government" ..other 5 star states destabilization *(compicated is that the biggest REAL helpers of world actual peace and religious freedom in a good way is ALSO from same states that are main suporters by tecnollagy and intrest to destabilize and crack down any religious movement that tryes to uprise humans to the level that we can start to communicate with our guardian angels, universe and set our road to paradise, in short)
IN england is same with occupy and so on that is organized be on borders, but final crack down of ALL eu comes after these hot important locations are quiated... US will be the last country .. and this sillything, that gun freedom.. this will be used against people most harsh way, *(they got a weapons you know... weapons that are joke compared to tec that "they" have)
"The Arab Spring at first brought considerable success for the Brotherhood, but as of 2013 it has suffered severe reversals. After some six decades of illegal status, the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood was legalized in 2011 when the regime of Hosni Mubarak was overthrown. As the country's strongest political organization, the Brotherhood won several elections, including the 2012 presidential election when its candidate Mohamed Morsi became Egypt's first democratically elected President. However one year later, on 3 July 2013, Morsi was himself overthrown by the military as a response of a popular demand. Millions of Egyptians demonstrated everywhere to ask Morsi to leave immediately. and the organization is once again suffering a severe crackdown."
oeh, whats the point, is not like anyone would read this right now anyway
" On 25 December 2013 the interim Egyptian government declared the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist group as a response to an attack on a police headquarters in Mansoura on 23 December 2013. The same day however, Ansar Bait al-Maqdis, a Sinai-based group, declared responsibility for the bombing, but till this moment the government still hasn't withdrawn from its declaration"
DID you get it? and now reneder all the other information about russia inflatration of egypt, mass murders of thousands in last months by new "popular demand millitary government" ..other 5 star states destabilization *(compicated is that the biggest REAL helpers of world actual peace and religious freedom in a good way is ALSO from same states that are main suporters by tecnollagy and intrest to destabilize and crack down any religious movement that tryes to uprise humans to the level that we can start to communicate with our guardian angels, universe and set our road to paradise, in short)
IN england is same with occupy and so on that is organized be on borders, but final crack down of ALL eu comes after these hot important locations are quiated... US will be the last country .. and this sillything, that gun freedom.. this will be used against people most harsh way, *(they got a weapons you know... weapons that are joke compared to tec that "they" have)
"The Arab Spring at first brought considerable success for the Brotherhood, but as of 2013 it has suffered severe reversals. After some six decades of illegal status, the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood was legalized in 2011 when the regime of Hosni Mubarak was overthrown. As the country's strongest political organization, the Brotherhood won several elections, including the 2012 presidential election when its candidate Mohamed Morsi became Egypt's first democratically elected President. However one year later, on 3 July 2013, Morsi was himself overthrown by the military as a response of a popular demand. Millions of Egyptians demonstrated everywhere to ask Morsi to leave immediately. and the organization is once again suffering a severe crackdown."
oeh, whats the point, is not like anyone would read this right now anyway
28 April 2014 23:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(bdw, do not be so ignorant to confuse these peope with acid storyes, unless you talking about spiritual lsd)
is a transnational Islamic political organization which was founded in Egypt in 1928 by the Islamic scholar and schoolteacher Hassan al-Banna, It began as a Pan-Islamic, religious, and social movement by the end of World War II the Muslim Brotherhood had an estimated two million members.
"including the 2012 presidential election when its candidate Mohamed Morsi became Egypt's first democratically elected President. However one year later, on 3 July 2013, Morsi was himself overthrown by the military as a response of a popular demand. Millions of Egyptians demonstrated everywhere to ask Morsi to leave immediatly. and the organization is once again suffering a severe crackdown"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood
is a transnational Islamic political organization which was founded in Egypt in 1928 by the Islamic scholar and schoolteacher Hassan al-Banna, It began as a Pan-Islamic, religious, and social movement by the end of World War II the Muslim Brotherhood had an estimated two million members.
"including the 2012 presidential election when its candidate Mohamed Morsi became Egypt's first democratically elected President. However one year later, on 3 July 2013, Morsi was himself overthrown by the military as a response of a popular demand. Millions of Egyptians demonstrated everywhere to ask Morsi to leave immediatly. and the organization is once again suffering a severe crackdown"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood
28 April 2014 21:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
First they beat down the ones who actually would be willing to take fight on and know more about what they fight for or against...
To take ower UK; LOndon specially, EU Cityes etc... is piece of cacke as these complain about minor police violence and even can not consive police shooting them in to face and they would be laught at if they try to complain about it loud... but most likelly if they open mouth they wil be in the list as well, the major torture and beating is not even conted in news that they face daily,
We in here.. its TO easy but to important group of upper class sizzis so its importent to take them last, with one final force, as rest of the world is already allowed to be annaxed by these really same protesters often by allowing their un religious millitary business man to inflatrate goverment, and same time sucking up to commie anti gov (i know, oxymoron, commie and anti authoritarian gov...) groups... who send them against last hopes they might have among royal familis, few that are still alive and against any religious (means, the ones who know more clearly what entire world is about..) groups who dare to spread the knowledge to to many people...
they do not cleack down any of the bitcoin or anonymous or large soft core spiritual movement, specially if they are money related, as there is no need, as in deep they missing pieces to oppose any kind of real danger to prison planet
(bdw... greetings to Alex jones as well who have helped to greate this prison planet...) ... retards with pro gun mentallaty, like power FOR people would be in guns (toys) that goverment makes for us
Look movie Holy Mountain to get the point abou toys..
in regards
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood_in_Egypt
To take ower UK; LOndon specially, EU Cityes etc... is piece of cacke as these complain about minor police violence and even can not consive police shooting them in to face and they would be laught at if they try to complain about it loud... but most likelly if they open mouth they wil be in the list as well, the major torture and beating is not even conted in news that they face daily,
We in here.. its TO easy but to important group of upper class sizzis so its importent to take them last, with one final force, as rest of the world is already allowed to be annaxed by these really same protesters often by allowing their un religious millitary business man to inflatrate goverment, and same time sucking up to commie anti gov (i know, oxymoron, commie and anti authoritarian gov...) groups... who send them against last hopes they might have among royal familis, few that are still alive and against any religious (means, the ones who know more clearly what entire world is about..) groups who dare to spread the knowledge to to many people...
they do not cleack down any of the bitcoin or anonymous or large soft core spiritual movement, specially if they are money related, as there is no need, as in deep they missing pieces to oppose any kind of real danger to prison planet
(bdw... greetings to Alex jones as well who have helped to greate this prison planet...) ... retards with pro gun mentallaty, like power FOR people would be in guns (toys) that goverment makes for us
Look movie Holy Mountain to get the point abou toys..
in regards
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood_in_Egypt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood_in_Egypt
28 April 2014 20:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"..NPR's Leila Fadel reports that the case was heard by the same judge, Said Youssef, who sentenced 529 people to death in March..."
Egypt's biggest political party until last year, the Brotherhood has been outlawed and driven underground.
It has vowed to bring down the government through protests, even though a security campaign has weakened the movement, which is believed to have about one million supporters in the country of 85 million.
Despite decades of repression under one Egyptian ruler after another, the Brotherhood has managed to survive, winning over Egyptians with its social networks and charities.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/egypt-court-seeks-death-penalty-for-683-muslim-brotherhood-supporters-1.2623935
"In a fourth case, one Muslim Brotherhood supporter was sentenced in absentia to 18 years in prison and an EGP 200,000 for inciting protests through the distribution of flyers, Abdul Hamid said. Abdul Hamid was among on defence team of the latter three of the aforementioned cases. - See more at: http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2014/04/26/muslim-brotherhood-supporters-sentenced-prison-minya/#sthash.j6lZP5Hl.dpuf"
... just for shering "wrong" fliers.... old known communist rule uprise... so called Nazis are small compared to that.. their trials was at least fuled by fear of forces that wanted to took ower human species.. except the ones in Austria that Hitler had trouble with as well..
Egypt's biggest political party until last year, the Brotherhood has been outlawed and driven underground.
It has vowed to bring down the government through protests, even though a security campaign has weakened the movement, which is believed to have about one million supporters in the country of 85 million.
Despite decades of repression under one Egyptian ruler after another, the Brotherhood has managed to survive, winning over Egyptians with its social networks and charities.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/egypt-court-seeks-death-penalty-for-683-muslim-brotherhood-supporters-1.2623935
"In a fourth case, one Muslim Brotherhood supporter was sentenced in absentia to 18 years in prison and an EGP 200,000 for inciting protests through the distribution of flyers, Abdul Hamid said. Abdul Hamid was among on defence team of the latter three of the aforementioned cases. - See more at: http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2014/04/26/muslim-brotherhood-supporters-sentenced-prison-minya/#sthash.j6lZP5Hl.dpuf"
... just for shering "wrong" fliers.... old known communist rule uprise... so called Nazis are small compared to that.. their trials was at least fuled by fear of forces that wanted to took ower human species.. except the ones in Austria that Hitler had trouble with as well..
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/egypt-court-seeks-death-penalty-for-683-muslim-brotherhood-supporters-1.2623935
28 April 2014 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's photo.
jup, Waffa, Gateway to stress free work
Sites that works, even for products
Sites that works, even for products
28 April 2014 20:21
Margus Meigo commented on Carlos Jorge Ferreira's photo.
Amir: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU2a4AfleTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU2a4AfleTE
28 April 2014 01:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: 日本語で話そう(Let's speak Japanese!!!!! \o/ )
So is it true about Shynes?27 April 2014 05:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: 日本語で話そう(Let's speak Japanese!!!!! \o/ )
Me also hopes, that thanks to someone THIS end up with some proper government and business people, these thoughts.... might not make as huge chnage in ordinary person life then as peoples life who run systems.
My self friend with Amir Taaki as well, and plenty of great mysterious Humans.
and wish to develop liberating solutions from machine maintanence so human can have more time for Nature,
Stay in contact!
Japanese one of my most favorite Nature smart Nations.27 April 2014 04:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
economic energy
27 April 2014 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Alan Wilson Watts was a British philosopher, writer, speaker, and student of comparative religion. He was best known as an interpreter and popularizer of Asian philosophies for a Western audience.
He wrote more than 25 books and numerous articles on subjects such as personal identity, the true nature of reality, higher consciousness, meaning of life, concepts and images of God and the non-material pursuit of happiness. In his books he relates his experience to scientific knowledge and to the teachings of Eastern and Western religion and philosophy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei9iLjNpFmA
He wrote more than 25 books and numerous articles on subjects such as personal identity, the true nature of reality, higher consciousness, meaning of life, concepts and images of God and the non-material pursuit of happiness. In his books he relates his experience to scientific knowledge and to the teachings of Eastern and Western religion and philosophy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei9iLjNpFmA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei9iLjNpFmA
27 April 2014 03:36
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's video.
Wou : ))))))))
26 April 2014 13:16
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
See vaga hasti thetud video, wou
26 April 2014 13:01
Margus Meigo commented on Oomas Alt's post.
kui palju rohkem resursse me lääne targad selleks kulutaks, kui palju vahem suhtlust oleks sama grupi inimeste vahel
ja siis teeme nalja node üle nagu nad me oleksime (inim)arengus eespool
ja siis teeme nalja node üle nagu nad me oleksime (inim)arengus eespool
26 April 2014 12:48
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Juhkam's link.
yeah, He knows better,
from what planetary dimension was he from again ?
from what planetary dimension was he from again ?
24 April 2014 17:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
hahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npKZ43aDSfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npKZ43aDSfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npKZ43aDSfc
24 April 2014 16:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
natuke nostalgjat ka otsa
"Vabana võid käia püstipäi"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZivP6NbVdRo&list=PLsXelNZnKcxkfddjr9Sn1wErO6tDU7Ng3
"Vabana võid käia püstipäi"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZivP6NbVdRo&list=PLsXelNZnKcxkfddjr9Sn1wErO6tDU7Ng3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZivP6NbVdRo&list=PLsXelNZnKcxkfddjr9Sn1wErO6tDU7Ng3
24 April 2014 16:21
Margus Meigo commented on Aurelius Sarapuu's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Kuid see eest, teiste tapjad tulevad igasuguste kenada google clasidest kuni paris silmituni välja, ...kui vaid head välimäärajat node selekteerimiseks oleks, kes parandamatud, kui võimalik24 April 2014 10:19
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
my blood :p
24 April 2014 05:35
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5GryIDl0qY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5GryIDl0qY
23 April 2014 07:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
gotta say for the preast - slow down there... these might not be THE ones who work for THE boss, there is more players on earth, the main theme in the end even might be that guy give hes freedom away as trusted these guys power more then Womens, who was clearly more then just a caracter
23 April 2014 02:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
product producer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-WH9SPG3_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-WH9SPG3_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-WH9SPG3_U
22 April 2014 23:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Produktide jaoks...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajBdKUeR4WE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajBdKUeR4WE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajBdKUeR4WE
22 April 2014 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Product haircuts..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKHAHnATtk0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKHAHnATtk0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKHAHnATtk0
22 April 2014 23:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwwrNukxouo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwwrNukxouo
22 April 2014 23:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZi1xJeuRrkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZi1xJeuRrk
22 April 2014 19:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__2c54d-tOYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__2c54d-tOY
22 April 2014 19:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
ONly ting left to hope is that things are better then that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5B9b7JMPG0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5B9b7JMPG0
22 April 2014 19:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zE8_rsiYOIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zE8_rsiYOI
22 April 2014 19:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnDT4SsAtAk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnDT4SsAtAk
22 April 2014 17:03
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
moni raudset motleb et paris hea pöserõndas... põske panekuks.. sopradega yhes koos... yksmeelses vallatus hoos..
22 April 2014 16:53
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Laulusoovituse aint oskan siia lisada,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST1CfqhNUnQ
mitte, et seotud oleks palju... kuid ikka normaalsem kui pikalt selle peale moelda kuhu inimesed jouavad...
Moelda vaid, see mees arvatavasti veel on normaalne node osas kes puldis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST1CfqhNUnQ
mitte, et seotud oleks palju... kuid ikka normaalsem kui pikalt selle peale moelda kuhu inimesed jouavad...
Moelda vaid, see mees arvatavasti veel on normaalne node osas kes puldis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST1CfqhNUnQ
22 April 2014 16:51
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Lee's post.
maybe its just multy dimensional person,
this if people is able to make sence in all dimensions to ordinary people so they would make sense of multidimensional people ... this is perhaps the problem o these, not the person with extra dimensions
this if people is able to make sence in all dimensions to ordinary people so they would make sense of multidimensional people ... this is perhaps the problem o these, not the person with extra dimensions
22 April 2014 08:17
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
dogs
22 April 2014 08:15
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
heros
22 April 2014 08:15
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
victims
22 April 2014 08:15
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
suporters
22 April 2014 08:15
Margus Meigo commented on John Grigg's post.
helpers
22 April 2014 08:15
Margus Meigo commented on Luha Talu's post.
lambad ja lilled ka kenad
22 April 2014 08:15
Margus Meigo commented on Luha Talu's post.
Mulle meeldib puu ja rohi
22 April 2014 08:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Killo's post.
Sa tallinnas? Ä)
... mu jaoks oli mystiline, et seal madrjuskasi myydi vaga vaga mitmes poes rohkem kui muid eesti asju mida oleks voinud..
... mu jaoks oli mystiline, et seal madrjuskasi myydi vaga vaga mitmes poes rohkem kui muid eesti asju mida oleks voinud..
22 April 2014 08:13
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
lisaks liisingu auto ja elamine EI ole inimese enda oa mida iganes me ette kujutame oma paberitele alla kirjutamisega, paberid selleks, et orjuse enda omaks tunnistaksid, mitte, et nouda saaksid voi omadi oigust suurendada.
ja see, et briti riiki tuuakse naitena vabaduste osas parema ja suuremana ... see midagi huumori ja solvava vahepeal. On olulisemad vabadused mis meil siin alles on, kuid selle seletamine laheks keeruliseks. Kui oskan, annan teada ;)
...ah neid rahameelseid inimesi..
ja see, et briti riiki tuuakse naitena vabaduste osas parema ja suuremana ... see midagi huumori ja solvava vahepeal. On olulisemad vabadused mis meil siin alles on, kuid selle seletamine laheks keeruliseks. Kui oskan, annan teada ;)
...ah neid rahameelseid inimesi..
22 April 2014 08:07
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
lihtsalt ara maksa neile kes kysivad midagi mis arvad mitte tahtvat maksta, kuna panga konto ja raha ei ole kunagi MEIE isiklik omand, eriti kui raha veel hoitakse pankade kontodel + siis muidugi neil oigus sealt niipalju votta tegelt kui soovivad, kuid noh... see selleks
22 April 2014 08:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
And this "vube" page jumped up as a spam when downloading this movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1qDJxXuzLc
( here: http://vube.com/Luciana+Zogbi/odzWDlcUrP/L/vote?t=s&floatee=odzWDlcUrP&channel=Luciana%20Zogbi ... was for a second "arrgh...another popup" .. and then She started to sing....)
( here: http://vube.com/Luciana+Zogbi/odzWDlcUrP/L/vote?t=s&floatee=odzWDlcUrP&channel=Luciana%20Zogbi ... was for a second "arrgh...another popup" .. and then She started to sing....)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1qDJxXuzLc
21 April 2014 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's photo.
hull vend oled :D
21 April 2014 05:18
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
see vastab "tahad lutti saada v"
21 April 2014 05:17
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
.
21 April 2014 05:16
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
nalja teed v, praegu on ju aprill!
21 April 2014 05:16
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
igaksjuhuks noustun enne ara ki vaatama hakkan, siis ei pea
21 April 2014 05:16
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
Ha!
21 April 2014 05:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW-Is6rNO6I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW-Is6rNO6I
21 April 2014 04:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MizzQ4ZeGFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNUM3gZVVg4 (with eng translation)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNUM3gZVVg4 (with eng translation)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MizzQ4ZeGFM
21 April 2014 04:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w9PkgnnF7g
http://www.svjatavatra.com/en/ajalugu/film/
Svjata Vatra presents
documentary film “Püha tuli” !
In October 2010 Svjata Vatra finished a two year project: a documentary film „Püha tuli“ („holy fire“ in Estonian), directed by Erik Norkroos.
It is the story of Ruslan Trochynskyi, an Ukrainian folk-rock musician, about his chance settling in Estonia, the forming of a band with four Estonian musicians and about the meaning and impact of this band on both Estonian and Ukranian folkmusic – in short: about integration in life as well as in art.
Most of the footage has been filmed in the summer of 2009 on the band’s folk-expedition to Romania and the Carpathian Mountains in Ukraine. In addition the film features a selection of the band’s live perfomances from several Estonian music festivals.
The musical documentary film (52 min) was presented in 5 Estonian city, in Finland, Helsinki. In March 2011 “Püha tuli” was presented at Worldfilm Festival in Tartu and Estonian National TV Chanel, in July in Poland, Festival Globaltica and Kiev, Ukraine.
The film was co-produced by Crossroad of Cultures, FilmPlussNull and University of Tartu Viljandi Culture Academy. The making of the documentary has been supported by Estonian Cultural Capital.
http://www.svjatavatra.com/en/ajalugu/film/
Svjata Vatra presents
documentary film “Püha tuli” !
In October 2010 Svjata Vatra finished a two year project: a documentary film „Püha tuli“ („holy fire“ in Estonian), directed by Erik Norkroos.
It is the story of Ruslan Trochynskyi, an Ukrainian folk-rock musician, about his chance settling in Estonia, the forming of a band with four Estonian musicians and about the meaning and impact of this band on both Estonian and Ukranian folkmusic – in short: about integration in life as well as in art.
Most of the footage has been filmed in the summer of 2009 on the band’s folk-expedition to Romania and the Carpathian Mountains in Ukraine. In addition the film features a selection of the band’s live perfomances from several Estonian music festivals.
The musical documentary film (52 min) was presented in 5 Estonian city, in Finland, Helsinki. In March 2011 “Püha tuli” was presented at Worldfilm Festival in Tartu and Estonian National TV Chanel, in July in Poland, Festival Globaltica and Kiev, Ukraine.
The film was co-produced by Crossroad of Cultures, FilmPlussNull and University of Tartu Viljandi Culture Academy. The making of the documentary has been supported by Estonian Cultural Capital.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w9PkgnnF7g
21 April 2014 04:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Greets to Poland and to other who have been with us!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGxN6yAA05k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGxN6yAA05k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGxN6yAA05k
21 April 2014 04:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
besides bagpipes and flute they also use scythe, Jew's harp...)
for music,
good add for last epic post
for music,
good add for last epic post
21 April 2014 04:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
but ofcourse, its all about "them"es as well Ö)
21 April 2014 04:16
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
/me vanaisa
7 April 2014 22:06
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
tegelt liikuda ja syya - nagu purx kaes tanaval jne, pole hea
religioosed inimesed teavad raakida,
ja eks me emad ka... seda austusvaarseks ei pea, kuid yerah... noorus on hukkas..
religioosed inimesed teavad raakida,
ja eks me emad ka... seda austusvaarseks ei pea, kuid yerah... noorus on hukkas..
7 April 2014 22:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aight,
7 April 2014 20:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
linna inglaslikus jaab kylge, prrh
7 April 2014 20:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kellegile vahemalt : )
7 April 2014 20:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
umm,, bitcoin iga saab saata
lootus jaab, et ei patsata ara
siin liialt veidrad hinged, laulud ise selgitavad kus motetega olen kuid ... mmmhh.. eks homme paista paike jalle
lootus jaab, et ei patsata ara
siin liialt veidrad hinged, laulud ise selgitavad kus motetega olen kuid ... mmmhh.. eks homme paista paike jalle
7 April 2014 20:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mul lihtsalt meeled liiga kinni, et rahaga enda suhtes tegutseda..., eks see ole palk kui nina koikide teiste maailma asjadesse torgin liialt
7 April 2014 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kui papsiga klapite ja muu perega siis mul tegelt paar sada eurtsa aitaks valja astuda sopast kyll
7 April 2014 20:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
tosi, kuid ..
7 April 2014 20:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kui ma vaid teaks, siis ma oleks roomsam
kuid kui suur saatkonnas Eesti meelsed... siis vast rahata saaks ka kohale, oma riik ikkagi ju
kuid kui suur saatkonnas Eesti meelsed... siis vast rahata saaks ka kohale, oma riik ikkagi ju
7 April 2014 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kui vaid saaks
7 April 2014 20:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
mean sad things... sad things..
but as always, ...should turn out to be good enought to stay alive
but as always, ...should turn out to be good enought to stay alive
7 April 2014 20:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
proovin iga hea hinna eest homme saatkonnani jouda
7 April 2014 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
neid rikkusi pole kaeparast praega
7 April 2014 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Reaalsusesse, reaalsusesse...
Nii me elame.... siin maa ilmas...
Ja nii tehti, mind... ja mitmet kes tunnevad sind
VIISIN PATUKOTI LATTU, SIIS KUI OLI KEVAD.
AEG MIL SEITSE SURMAPATTU, MEELEST UNUNEVAD.
TREPIKOJAS KURAT HIILIS, PÄEVINÄINUD VANA.
VILISTADES RINGI HIILIS, VAEVU KUULDAVANA.
PATUGA POOLEKS, PATUGA POOLEKS ON SEE MAAILM
PATUGA POOLEKS, TEHTI SIND JA MIND.
ÕHTU MÖÖDUS PATTU TEHES, RAHULIKULT VAIKSELT.
RAHULOLU IGAST MEHEST, KIIRGAS ÜHEPAIKSELT.
ÕLITATI UKSEHINGI, SEST ET NEED ON ROOSTES.
HOIDES NÄPUS OMA KINGI, PALJAJALU JOOSTES.
PATUGA POOLEKS, PATUGA POOLEKS ON SEE MAAILM
PATUGA POOLEKS, TEHTI SIND JA MIND.
PATUSTAME, PATUSTATE AINA ÜHTEMOODI.
MILLE ALGUS KÜLM JA KÕLE, NAGU VÕÕRAS VOODIS.
VIISIN PATUKOTI LATTU SEAL NEID OLI VAREM,
ÄRAANTUD PATUD RIVIS ARVASIN SAAB PAREM.
PATUGA POOLEKS, PATUGA POOLEKS ON SEE MAAILM
PATUGA POOLEKS, TEHTI SIND JA MIND
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qlNTQAGMh4
http://www.ergotheband.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=14
Nii me elame.... siin maa ilmas...
Ja nii tehti, mind... ja mitmet kes tunnevad sind
VIISIN PATUKOTI LATTU, SIIS KUI OLI KEVAD.
AEG MIL SEITSE SURMAPATTU, MEELEST UNUNEVAD.
TREPIKOJAS KURAT HIILIS, PÄEVINÄINUD VANA.
VILISTADES RINGI HIILIS, VAEVU KUULDAVANA.
PATUGA POOLEKS, PATUGA POOLEKS ON SEE MAAILM
PATUGA POOLEKS, TEHTI SIND JA MIND.
ÕHTU MÖÖDUS PATTU TEHES, RAHULIKULT VAIKSELT.
RAHULOLU IGAST MEHEST, KIIRGAS ÜHEPAIKSELT.
ÕLITATI UKSEHINGI, SEST ET NEED ON ROOSTES.
HOIDES NÄPUS OMA KINGI, PALJAJALU JOOSTES.
PATUGA POOLEKS, PATUGA POOLEKS ON SEE MAAILM
PATUGA POOLEKS, TEHTI SIND JA MIND.
PATUSTAME, PATUSTATE AINA ÜHTEMOODI.
MILLE ALGUS KÜLM JA KÕLE, NAGU VÕÕRAS VOODIS.
VIISIN PATUKOTI LATTU SEAL NEID OLI VAREM,
ÄRAANTUD PATUD RIVIS ARVASIN SAAB PAREM.
PATUGA POOLEKS, PATUGA POOLEKS ON SEE MAAILM
PATUGA POOLEKS, TEHTI SIND JA MIND
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qlNTQAGMh4
http://www.ergotheband.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qlNTQAGMh4
7 April 2014 19:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
vahe, vahepala, kuid sobilikes varvides,
Ergo laulu ette motlemiseks.. fun fun fun.. abused fun.
Ja milline kasutaja nimi..
Ты сегодня взрослее стала
И учебу ты прогуляла
Пригласила своих подружек
Ну а как же я (ведь день рожденья у тебя)
Знаю, ты меня не забудешь
Я приду меня зацелуешь
Но поцелуев твоих мне мало
Я хочу чтоб ты сказала:
Припев (2 раза):
Забирай меня скорей
Увози за сто морей
И целуй меня везде
Восемнадцать мне уже
Ты уже танцевать устала
Эта песня сто раз играла
Веселятся твои подружки
Разбудили всех (пели песни "Руки Вверх")
Все ушли, мы одни остались
И друг другу во всем признались
Ведь ты сегодня взрослее стала
Наконец-то мне сказала:
Припев:
Забирай меня скорей
Увози за сто морей
И целуй меня везде
Восемнадцать мне уже
---
"i know you won't forget me"
"take me away fast
take me away, a thousand oceans away"
"you're tired of dancin
this song was sounded a hundred times
ur girlfriends are havin fun"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPrCNh51dQo
Faktor 2 - Krasavica
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7FM-B4TX8I
http://www.allthelyrics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19373
Ergo laulu ette motlemiseks.. fun fun fun.. abused fun.
Ja milline kasutaja nimi..
Ты сегодня взрослее стала
И учебу ты прогуляла
Пригласила своих подружек
Ну а как же я (ведь день рожденья у тебя)
Знаю, ты меня не забудешь
Я приду меня зацелуешь
Но поцелуев твоих мне мало
Я хочу чтоб ты сказала:
Припев (2 раза):
Забирай меня скорей
Увози за сто морей
И целуй меня везде
Восемнадцать мне уже
Ты уже танцевать устала
Эта песня сто раз играла
Веселятся твои подружки
Разбудили всех (пели песни "Руки Вверх")
Все ушли, мы одни остались
И друг другу во всем признались
Ведь ты сегодня взрослее стала
Наконец-то мне сказала:
Припев:
Забирай меня скорей
Увози за сто морей
И целуй меня везде
Восемнадцать мне уже
---
"i know you won't forget me"
"take me away fast
take me away, a thousand oceans away"
"you're tired of dancin
this song was sounded a hundred times
ur girlfriends are havin fun"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPrCNh51dQo
Faktor 2 - Krasavica
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7FM-B4TX8I
http://www.allthelyrics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19373
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPrCNh51dQo
7 April 2014 19:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Meid sunnitud lahkuma... paraleelis endiselt sonad veel maailmale ja Sulle
Üksi kui kunagi,
targem kui eilne päev
Nutusel hingel on vaev
kui ootan Sind
See rahu mu hinge ei too
kui oleksin tühjust täis
Neid torkavaid nooli
südames tunnen veel
Koiduni pikk on tee,
igatsus kurvaks teeb
Kirglik mu tunnete leek
Mu kallis, üksindus haiget teeb.
Kui igatsust tunneme,
siis andume taas tundele
Tahan veel hoida hellalt, mu kallis, Sind
Kaunimad hetked ma
veetnud vaid sinuga
Saaks tagasi endist
ootan Sind lõputult veel
Meid lahkuma sunnitud,
hinge jääb kannatus
Sa loodud vaid mulle
me lootuste linnuteel
(3x) Koiduni pikk on tee,
igatsus kurvaks teeb
Kirglik mu tunnete leek
Mu kallis, üksindus haiget teeb.
Kui igatsus tunneme,
siis andume taas tundele
Tahan veel hoida hellalt, mu kallis, Sind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpuSjkUx_J8
Üksi kui kunagi,
targem kui eilne päev
Nutusel hingel on vaev
kui ootan Sind
See rahu mu hinge ei too
kui oleksin tühjust täis
Neid torkavaid nooli
südames tunnen veel
Koiduni pikk on tee,
igatsus kurvaks teeb
Kirglik mu tunnete leek
Mu kallis, üksindus haiget teeb.
Kui igatsust tunneme,
siis andume taas tundele
Tahan veel hoida hellalt, mu kallis, Sind
Kaunimad hetked ma
veetnud vaid sinuga
Saaks tagasi endist
ootan Sind lõputult veel
Meid lahkuma sunnitud,
hinge jääb kannatus
Sa loodud vaid mulle
me lootuste linnuteel
(3x) Koiduni pikk on tee,
igatsus kurvaks teeb
Kirglik mu tunnete leek
Mu kallis, üksindus haiget teeb.
Kui igatsus tunneme,
siis andume taas tundele
Tahan veel hoida hellalt, mu kallis, Sind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpuSjkUx_J8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpuSjkUx_J8
7 April 2014 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
uuesti edasi.. me liigi eest.. slowly..
inimesed, kes osad on selles. Kuid aru saan, osati ..nyyd et
Minu ulem miks siis puruneda võis ta nii äkki?
Armastus, mis hetkel ilmus, kadus taas.
Vaid kurbus alles nüüd. Oleme kui võõrad.
Õrnad sõnad on jäänud meist kaugele.
Mu mälestustes tahad jalutada nagu vanasti.
Kergeis riideis pisut linnas hulkuda
ja vaateakendel oma peegelpilti vaatad sa nagu kord alguses.
Sina jooksed kergel sammul nagu tookord
Aga mina ainult vaikida võin,sest nii tühi on kõik
Nii ligi taevas kord näis, nii näis.
Mu elu see läbi sõrmede mul voolab, kaob kui liiva.
Ning su nägu ja Su naeratust näen jälle,tuld su silmades.
Kuigi armastust pole hinnanud ma sellest aru nüüd saan.
Ja minu elu, see miski tabamatu minus ees kuulub sinule.
Vaata, kus on kõik see?
Kas tõesti kestab kõik veel ja sa mu eluks jääd?
Su silmad taas mind vaatavad.
Armastust vist sülle tahtsime me püüda.
Me oskamatuis kätes tiiva murdis ta.
Kuid mina armusin, Sulle rääkisin, Sind uskusin
Kuhu jäis iis kõik see?
Taas paistab päike me kahe peale kõrvuti sel tänaval.
Mispärast, mispärast värised?
Sa ütled:elu kaob käest
Mu kõrveal oled veel Sind näen
Mu elu Sa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzfcuD-wxSI
kas toesti koik kestab veel..
inimesed, kes osad on selles. Kuid aru saan, osati ..nyyd et
Minu ulem miks siis puruneda võis ta nii äkki?
Armastus, mis hetkel ilmus, kadus taas.
Vaid kurbus alles nüüd. Oleme kui võõrad.
Õrnad sõnad on jäänud meist kaugele.
Mu mälestustes tahad jalutada nagu vanasti.
Kergeis riideis pisut linnas hulkuda
ja vaateakendel oma peegelpilti vaatad sa nagu kord alguses.
Sina jooksed kergel sammul nagu tookord
Aga mina ainult vaikida võin,sest nii tühi on kõik
Nii ligi taevas kord näis, nii näis.
Mu elu see läbi sõrmede mul voolab, kaob kui liiva.
Ning su nägu ja Su naeratust näen jälle,tuld su silmades.
Kuigi armastust pole hinnanud ma sellest aru nüüd saan.
Ja minu elu, see miski tabamatu minus ees kuulub sinule.
Vaata, kus on kõik see?
Kas tõesti kestab kõik veel ja sa mu eluks jääd?
Su silmad taas mind vaatavad.
Armastust vist sülle tahtsime me püüda.
Me oskamatuis kätes tiiva murdis ta.
Kuid mina armusin, Sulle rääkisin, Sind uskusin
Kuhu jäis iis kõik see?
Taas paistab päike me kahe peale kõrvuti sel tänaval.
Mispärast, mispärast värised?
Sa ütled:elu kaob käest
Mu kõrveal oled veel Sind näen
Mu elu Sa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzfcuD-wxSI
kas toesti koik kestab veel..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzfcuD-wxSI
7 April 2014 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
vahepala...
koik homme uus kui kui pole meidseid..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpuSjkUx_J8
koik homme uus kui kui pole meidseid..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpuSjkUx_J8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpuSjkUx_J8
7 April 2014 19:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
vahepala...
Kuid maletage jatkata
Oli õhtu vaba
Ja ma tahtsin tantsida,
Nägin ühte neidu,
Keda väga armastan.
Algul seisin nurgas,
Tahtsin väga tantsida.
Aga tema läks
ja tantsis teisega.
REF:
Peatage muusika
Väike neiu tantsib teisega.
Peatage muusika,
Ma tahan talle ütelda:
Kas tõesti siis
Ma enam iial ei näe sind.
Peatage muusika,
Kohe ütlen talle kõik.
Läksin neiu juurde,
Nõnda aralt seisis ta.
Pikad blondid juuksed
Ta õlgu katsid seal.
Küsisin, kas tohin
Ühte tantsu paluda,
Aga tema läks
Ja tantsis teisega
REF:
Peatage muusika
Väike neiu tantsib teisega.
Peatage muusika,
Ma tahan talle ütelda:
Kas tõesti siis
Ma enam iial ei näe sind.
Peatage muusika,
Kohe ütlen talle kõik.
*********************
Peatage muusika
Väike neiu tantsib teisega.
Peatage muusika,
Ma tahan talle ütelda:
Kas tõesti siis
Ma enam iial ei näe sind.
Peatage muusika,
Kohe ütlen talle kõik.
Nii ma nurgas seisan,
Hinges pettumus ja piin.
Kui õhtu lõpeb,
Nad endaga ma viin.
Täht üksik vilgub,
Mulle kurvalt silma teeb.
Täna kuu taipaks,
Kui´s süda valust keeb.
REF:
Peatage muusika
Väike neiu tantsib teisega.
Peatage muusika,
Ma tahan talle ütelda:
Kas tõesti siis
Ma enam iial ei näe sind.
Peatage muusika,
Kohe ütlen talle kõik.
Peatage muusika
Väike neiu tantsib teisega.
Peatage muusika,
Ma tahan talle ütelda:
Kas tõesti siis
Ma enam iial ei näe sind.
Peatage muusika,
Kohe ütlen talle kõik.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO5MWf8BxVs
Kuid maletage jatkata
Oli õhtu vaba
Ja ma tahtsin tantsida,
Nägin ühte neidu,
Keda väga armastan.
Algul seisin nurgas,
Tahtsin väga tantsida.
Aga tema läks
ja tantsis teisega.
REF:
Peatage muusika
Väike neiu tantsib teisega.
Peatage muusika,
Ma tahan talle ütelda:
Kas tõesti siis
Ma enam iial ei näe sind.
Peatage muusika,
Kohe ütlen talle kõik.
Läksin neiu juurde,
Nõnda aralt seisis ta.
Pikad blondid juuksed
Ta õlgu katsid seal.
Küsisin, kas tohin
Ühte tantsu paluda,
Aga tema läks
Ja tantsis teisega
REF:
Peatage muusika
Väike neiu tantsib teisega.
Peatage muusika,
Ma tahan talle ütelda:
Kas tõesti siis
Ma enam iial ei näe sind.
Peatage muusika,
Kohe ütlen talle kõik.
*********************
Peatage muusika
Väike neiu tantsib teisega.
Peatage muusika,
Ma tahan talle ütelda:
Kas tõesti siis
Ma enam iial ei näe sind.
Peatage muusika,
Kohe ütlen talle kõik.
Nii ma nurgas seisan,
Hinges pettumus ja piin.
Kui õhtu lõpeb,
Nad endaga ma viin.
Täht üksik vilgub,
Mulle kurvalt silma teeb.
Täna kuu taipaks,
Kui´s süda valust keeb.
REF:
Peatage muusika
Väike neiu tantsib teisega.
Peatage muusika,
Ma tahan talle ütelda:
Kas tõesti siis
Ma enam iial ei näe sind.
Peatage muusika,
Kohe ütlen talle kõik.
Peatage muusika
Väike neiu tantsib teisega.
Peatage muusika,
Ma tahan talle ütelda:
Kas tõesti siis
Ma enam iial ei näe sind.
Peatage muusika,
Kohe ütlen talle kõik.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO5MWf8BxVs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO5MWf8BxVs
7 April 2014 19:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Rumal voisin olla ja ehk edaspidigi, aga pisarad on paris
Kui lõppes suveõhtu meil
Siis palusid mu kallis neid
Et alati me kokku jääks
Ja minuga sa olla saaks.
Nii rumal olin siis veel ma
Su jutust ei ma aru saan'd
Et võimalus see viimane
Ja igaveseks lahkume.
Palun tule tagasi
Vajan sind ma siiani
Tean et haiget tegin sulle ma
Siiski ainus oled sa.
Meenub mulle vaid see päev
Kui küsisid sa minu käest
Kas oled kõige kallim sa
Kuid ma ei tahtnud vastata.
Su silmis nägin pisaraid
Ja teadsin et nii haiget said
Ei osanud siis arvata
Et sul on plaanis lahkuda.
Palun tule tagasi
Vajan sind ma siiani
Tean et haiget tegin sulle ma
Siiski ainus oled sa.
Palun tule tagasi
(Tule tagasi)
Vajan sind ma siiani
(Siiani)
Tean et haiget tegin sulle ma
Siiski ainus oled sa.
Palun tule tagasi
(Tule tagasi)
Vajan sind ma siiani
(Siiani)
Tean et haiget tegin sulle ma
Siiski ainus oled sa
Siiski ainus oled sa
Siiski ainus oled sa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U27o1ktaZRk
Kui lõppes suveõhtu meil
Siis palusid mu kallis neid
Et alati me kokku jääks
Ja minuga sa olla saaks.
Nii rumal olin siis veel ma
Su jutust ei ma aru saan'd
Et võimalus see viimane
Ja igaveseks lahkume.
Palun tule tagasi
Vajan sind ma siiani
Tean et haiget tegin sulle ma
Siiski ainus oled sa.
Meenub mulle vaid see päev
Kui küsisid sa minu käest
Kas oled kõige kallim sa
Kuid ma ei tahtnud vastata.
Su silmis nägin pisaraid
Ja teadsin et nii haiget said
Ei osanud siis arvata
Et sul on plaanis lahkuda.
Palun tule tagasi
Vajan sind ma siiani
Tean et haiget tegin sulle ma
Siiski ainus oled sa.
Palun tule tagasi
(Tule tagasi)
Vajan sind ma siiani
(Siiani)
Tean et haiget tegin sulle ma
Siiski ainus oled sa.
Palun tule tagasi
(Tule tagasi)
Vajan sind ma siiani
(Siiani)
Tean et haiget tegin sulle ma
Siiski ainus oled sa
Siiski ainus oled sa
Siiski ainus oled sa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U27o1ktaZRk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U27o1ktaZRk
7 April 2014 19:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Vot mis see linn mus, meis tegi..
...
Räägib üks legend, kui tüdruk musta räti kaela sidus-
kõndis kodust kaugele.
Ühed teavad- elab ikka, teised räägivad, et plika
hõljub ammu taevateel.
Kolmandad, et uppus sohu- sealt sai armuvalust rohu.
Öösi keegi nutvat sääl.
Ja kui lõpuks tuul kui vaibub, kummalisi hääli kaigub
kauguses, seal väljade pääl.
Mitmesugust kuulda juttu tüdrukust, kes kadus uttu
ootamatult kõigi jaoks.
Ühed teavad- armuvalust tüdruk lihtsalt lahkus talust
linna, et võiks olla paos.
Teised, et läks linnas segi. Pagan teab, mis linn ta\'st tegi.
Öösiti ta nutvat sääl.
Siiski lõpuks jutt kui vaibub, kummalisi hääli kaigub
kauguses, seal väljade pääl.
Laugaste pääl on jää
ka siis, kui mujal vaikne, puhuvad seal tuuled.
Laugaste pääl on jää,
ning üksik tuluke- see justkui näitaks teed.
Laugaste pääl on jää
taas mõttes surun oma huuled Sinu suule.
Laugaste pääl on jää.
Ning loodan, et Sa ikka oled kuskil veel.
Varakevadel kui õide puhkeb kogu maa ja võib veel
rõõmu tuua pikem päev.
Mõtlen jälle tüdrukust, kes kadus seal, kus maa on must,
kus kirkad toone eal ei näe.
Miks küll sellised legendid justkui puudutaks meid endid
seda iialgi ei tea.
Kuid, kui lõpuks tuul kui vaibub, kummalisi hääli kaigub
kauguses, seal väljade peal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBiqjhrusVs
...
Räägib üks legend, kui tüdruk musta räti kaela sidus-
kõndis kodust kaugele.
Ühed teavad- elab ikka, teised räägivad, et plika
hõljub ammu taevateel.
Kolmandad, et uppus sohu- sealt sai armuvalust rohu.
Öösi keegi nutvat sääl.
Ja kui lõpuks tuul kui vaibub, kummalisi hääli kaigub
kauguses, seal väljade pääl.
Mitmesugust kuulda juttu tüdrukust, kes kadus uttu
ootamatult kõigi jaoks.
Ühed teavad- armuvalust tüdruk lihtsalt lahkus talust
linna, et võiks olla paos.
Teised, et läks linnas segi. Pagan teab, mis linn ta\'st tegi.
Öösiti ta nutvat sääl.
Siiski lõpuks jutt kui vaibub, kummalisi hääli kaigub
kauguses, seal väljade pääl.
Laugaste pääl on jää
ka siis, kui mujal vaikne, puhuvad seal tuuled.
Laugaste pääl on jää,
ning üksik tuluke- see justkui näitaks teed.
Laugaste pääl on jää
taas mõttes surun oma huuled Sinu suule.
Laugaste pääl on jää.
Ning loodan, et Sa ikka oled kuskil veel.
Varakevadel kui õide puhkeb kogu maa ja võib veel
rõõmu tuua pikem päev.
Mõtlen jälle tüdrukust, kes kadus seal, kus maa on must,
kus kirkad toone eal ei näe.
Miks küll sellised legendid justkui puudutaks meid endid
seda iialgi ei tea.
Kuid, kui lõpuks tuul kui vaibub, kummalisi hääli kaigub
kauguses, seal väljade peal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBiqjhrusVs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBiqjhrusVs
7 April 2014 19:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kui eelkoige enamasti... Inimestele kes kallid,
pohjused pohjused... on valusad
Vaikin siis kui mul on valus,
vaikin siis kui mul on hea.
Ära minult sõnu palu,
kõigest rääkima ei pea.
Ära arva, et mul pole,
kauneid sõnu Sinu jaoks.
Enda teada jätan need,
kui meil ühine on tee,
ei jää kuulmata Sul see.
Palun andesta kui ma,
kõike öelda veel ei saa.
Sõna maksab kulla hinda,
alles siis kui öeldud see.
Tundeist, mis on loodud rinda,
salasoppi südames.
Tundeist, mida ükskõik kuhu,
lihtsalt jagada ei saa.
Kui Sul kurvaks läheb meel,
tea, et keegi pole veel,
mitte keegi pole veel,
kuulnud, minult, mida Sa,
tahad kuulda, kuid ei saa.
Kui me pead on ükskord hallid,
otsa hakkab saama tee.
Siis ma ütlen, olid kallis,
praegu kallim oled veel.
Siis ma ütlen, kui vaid teaksid,
kuidas armastasin Sind.
Minus alles on kõik see,
mida pikal eluteel,
mulle andsid, tahan veel.
Jätkuks kaua veel me tee,
kunagi ei lõpeks see.
Ära arva, et mul pole,
kauneid sõnu Sinu jaoks.
Enda teada jätan need,
kui meil ühine on tee,
ei jää kuulmata Sul see.
Palun andesta kui ma,
kõike öelda veel ei saa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-6JsN58F6E
pohjused pohjused... on valusad
Vaikin siis kui mul on valus,
vaikin siis kui mul on hea.
Ära minult sõnu palu,
kõigest rääkima ei pea.
Ära arva, et mul pole,
kauneid sõnu Sinu jaoks.
Enda teada jätan need,
kui meil ühine on tee,
ei jää kuulmata Sul see.
Palun andesta kui ma,
kõike öelda veel ei saa.
Sõna maksab kulla hinda,
alles siis kui öeldud see.
Tundeist, mis on loodud rinda,
salasoppi südames.
Tundeist, mida ükskõik kuhu,
lihtsalt jagada ei saa.
Kui Sul kurvaks läheb meel,
tea, et keegi pole veel,
mitte keegi pole veel,
kuulnud, minult, mida Sa,
tahad kuulda, kuid ei saa.
Kui me pead on ükskord hallid,
otsa hakkab saama tee.
Siis ma ütlen, olid kallis,
praegu kallim oled veel.
Siis ma ütlen, kui vaid teaksid,
kuidas armastasin Sind.
Minus alles on kõik see,
mida pikal eluteel,
mulle andsid, tahan veel.
Jätkuks kaua veel me tee,
kunagi ei lõpeks see.
Ära arva, et mul pole,
kauneid sõnu Sinu jaoks.
Enda teada jätan need,
kui meil ühine on tee,
ei jää kuulmata Sul see.
Palun andesta kui ma,
kõike öelda veel ei saa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-6JsN58F6E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-6JsN58F6E
7 April 2014 19:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kui eelkoige enamasti... Inimestele kes kallid,
pohjused pohjused... on valusad
Vaikin siis kui mul on valus,
vaikin siis kui mul on hea.
Ära minult sõnu palu,
kõigest rääkima ei pea.
Ära arva, et mul pole,
kauneid sõnu Sinu jaoks.
Enda teada jätan need,
kui meil ühine on tee,
ei jää kuulmata Sul see.
Palun andesta kui ma,
kõike öelda veel ei saa.
Sõna maksab kulla hinda,
alles siis kui öeldud see.
Tundeist, mis on loodud rinda,
salasoppi südames.
Tundeist, mida ükskõik kuhu,
lihtsalt jagada ei saa.
Kui Sul kurvaks läheb meel,
tea, et keegi pole veel,
mitte keegi pole veel,
kuulnud, minult, mida Sa,
tahad kuulda, kuid ei saa.
Kui me pead on ükskord hallid,
otsa hakkab saama tee.
Siis ma ütlen, olid kallis,
praegu kallim oled veel.
Siis ma ütlen, kui vaid teaksid,
kuidas armastasin Sind.
Minus alles on kõik see,
mida pikal eluteel,
mulle andsid, tahan veel.
Jätkuks kaua veel me tee,
kunagi ei lõpeks see.
Ära arva, et mul pole,
kauneid sõnu Sinu jaoks.
Enda teada jätan need,
kui meil ühine on tee,
ei jää kuulmata Sul see.
Palun andesta kui ma,
kõike öelda veel ei saa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-6JsN58F6E
pohjused pohjused... on valusad
Vaikin siis kui mul on valus,
vaikin siis kui mul on hea.
Ära minult sõnu palu,
kõigest rääkima ei pea.
Ära arva, et mul pole,
kauneid sõnu Sinu jaoks.
Enda teada jätan need,
kui meil ühine on tee,
ei jää kuulmata Sul see.
Palun andesta kui ma,
kõike öelda veel ei saa.
Sõna maksab kulla hinda,
alles siis kui öeldud see.
Tundeist, mis on loodud rinda,
salasoppi südames.
Tundeist, mida ükskõik kuhu,
lihtsalt jagada ei saa.
Kui Sul kurvaks läheb meel,
tea, et keegi pole veel,
mitte keegi pole veel,
kuulnud, minult, mida Sa,
tahad kuulda, kuid ei saa.
Kui me pead on ükskord hallid,
otsa hakkab saama tee.
Siis ma ütlen, olid kallis,
praegu kallim oled veel.
Siis ma ütlen, kui vaid teaksid,
kuidas armastasin Sind.
Minus alles on kõik see,
mida pikal eluteel,
mulle andsid, tahan veel.
Jätkuks kaua veel me tee,
kunagi ei lõpeks see.
Ära arva, et mul pole,
kauneid sõnu Sinu jaoks.
Enda teada jätan need,
kui meil ühine on tee,
ei jää kuulmata Sul see.
Palun andesta kui ma,
kõike öelda veel ei saa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-6JsN58F6E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-6JsN58F6E
7 April 2014 19:11
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
Mis inim kvaliteete see mudeli disain tapsemalt sisaldab, auto tundub kuidagi kortsus juba enne soitu minekut :p
7 April 2014 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
ettevaatust...
7 April 2014 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
why so sad
7 April 2014 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Killo's link.
in UK
7 April 2014 17:51
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Killo's link.
i had way smaller :D
7 April 2014 17:50
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Tean, et siin "meeldib" pole meeldiv vast vajutada... kuid kurbus on sygav ja reaalne tunne, mis on rohkem paris kui mitu muud tunnet mis meil peas ja ymber naidatakse,
ma proovin ka eesti poole tulla...
ma proovin ka eesti poole tulla...
7 April 2014 17:34
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's post.
Eating gods no less worst then eating many things we do
and by far not worst them things we accept globally..
and by far not worst them things we accept globally..
5 April 2014 18:22
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
suve ei pruugi tulla, sest hiina ytles et jaapaniga sojaks valmis ja vene alustas sojave treeninguid eesti ja lati suunal ja usa ytles et ta hiina ja jaapani sja vahele ei tule
... ja see alles algus sellest mida juba sygavalt ette valmistatud on, votab aint vaikse sademe, et koik kaoks
... ja see alles algus sellest mida juba sygavalt ette valmistatud on, votab aint vaikse sademe, et koik kaoks
4 April 2014 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on Mo Mohamed's post.
Point of bible is that you would EVEN know the Egypt existed and will stay besides animal and heavenly realms where we can access again
i even forgot my brothers name besides age and much more serious things other people have no feelings or memory about... even things less then 100 years ago... so this is serious, as we can remember and know it all we need but how come we still wondering even about simple things, like is bible A & O for Life blueprint for Earth people to protect us from past and future or is it Something we can know by having no imagination and belief
maybe
i even forgot my brothers name besides age and much more serious things other people have no feelings or memory about... even things less then 100 years ago... so this is serious, as we can remember and know it all we need but how come we still wondering even about simple things, like is bible A & O for Life blueprint for Earth people to protect us from past and future or is it Something we can know by having no imagination and belief
maybe
4 April 2014 18:23
Margus Meigo commented on Mo Mohamed's post.
4 April 2014 18:17
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Segane Rebane .. tsekka seda...
4 April 2014 17:53
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
Holi....
Allar Kaljundi .. tsekka seda... :(
Allar Kaljundi .. tsekka seda... :(
4 April 2014 17:52
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's photo.
Actually you are one of the most normal humans in heart wise i know, besides adventures that took and trick You to paths of life in here and there.. that was perhaps needed for final cleansing of Soul Speaking
3 April 2014 20:52
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
see dude elab for ever
3 April 2014 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Today
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_peasant_war_of_1653 (The population of the countryside demanded fiscal relief from their ruling authorities..)
http://yalepress.yale.edu/yupbooks/book.asp?isbn=9780300105650 (The Era of Rural Reform, 1979–1989)
http://www.springer.com/social+sciences/book/978-94-007-6433-0 (The Political Economy of Development and Genocide in Rwanda)
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/03066150.2013.824743 (Thailand's political peasants: power in the modern rural economy)
http://www.pakistanaffairs.pk/threads/64449-Peasant-power (The Via Campesina is perhaps the largest social movement in the world..)
http://lafstern.org/matt/col3.pdf (The Russian Peasant Algorithm..)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_peasant_war_of_1653 (The population of the countryside demanded fiscal relief from their ruling authorities..)
http://yalepress.yale.edu/yupbooks/book.asp?isbn=9780300105650 (The Era of Rural Reform, 1979–1989)
http://www.springer.com/social+sciences/book/978-94-007-6433-0 (The Political Economy of Development and Genocide in Rwanda)
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/03066150.2013.824743 (Thailand's political peasants: power in the modern rural economy)
http://www.pakistanaffairs.pk/threads/64449-Peasant-power (The Via Campesina is perhaps the largest social movement in the world..)
http://lafstern.org/matt/col3.pdf (The Russian Peasant Algorithm..)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_peasant_war_of_1653
3 April 2014 20:36
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Besides Onion News that is one of the best source besides Daily Show from comedy central for light candy wrapped entertainment with taste of message / intelligence there is also people like that talking out there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADw5GVhgn_U
... and thats OK some people say.. by forgetting, our body if one lives sin life can and will be taken to use in soul open market for mixing DNA in ways that (am worried) .. that people can not get the calm realization of Earth family... as deep confusion will run in blood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADw5GVhgn_U
... and thats OK some people say.. by forgetting, our body if one lives sin life can and will be taken to use in soul open market for mixing DNA in ways that (am worried) .. that people can not get the calm realization of Earth family... as deep confusion will run in blood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADw5GVhgn_U
3 April 2014 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
here is some of "these" in related videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG-pFO5vRQU
but yeah, these topics are low,
to confuse and direct us away from real issues - like humans suppressing humans... some choose colors who are blind some choose heritage, some body shape others education or finance - so many ways for invaders to make trouble and forget who we really are..
.. hey.. who are we ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG-pFO5vRQU
but yeah, these topics are low,
to confuse and direct us away from real issues - like humans suppressing humans... some choose colors who are blind some choose heritage, some body shape others education or finance - so many ways for invaders to make trouble and forget who we really are..
.. hey.. who are we ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG-pFO5vRQU
3 April 2014 20:19
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
:D
Yeah, skip trough the stuff once u have time. They are all in one folder.
(the crazy stuff was for study what people put out there... )
PS: am healer of fascist - communists anti-human behaviors
by explaining importance of heritage, some people might take it for serious, use language well : )
Earthist and Nationalist for sure as well
Yeah, skip trough the stuff once u have time. They are all in one folder.
(the crazy stuff was for study what people put out there... )
PS: am healer of fascist - communists anti-human behaviors
by explaining importance of heritage, some people might take it for serious, use language well : )
Earthist and Nationalist for sure as well
3 April 2014 20:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
comment once me have read this my self as well..
3 April 2014 10:54
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
Mu nagu un wast suts eriti omaparase kirjaga tana sel juhul
1 April 2014 16:35
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Turtles are great!
But ya, long live freedom of truth
But ya, long live freedom of truth
1 April 2014 05:27
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
kuid noh, ryndajad need kes kuuldavasti peaks sona vabaduse ja poliitilise vaabaduse suunal toimetama...
1 April 2014 05:14
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
Meil siin ka paar kaklust tana oli,
sest selgitasin kommunistliku extrateresstial inimrassi ylevottu,
kuid eriti narvi mindi kui selgitasin, et meil pole eriti oigust ennast vorrelda Kuningkannaga ja syydistada teda, meie vigades
sest selgitasin kommunistliku extrateresstial inimrassi ylevottu,
kuid eriti narvi mindi kui selgitasin, et meil pole eriti oigust ennast vorrelda Kuningkannaga ja syydistada teda, meie vigades
1 April 2014 05:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
But some dark sorcerer made the plant that caused the awakening a scapegoat. It was a clever campaign, executed in stages over a great expanse of time. The plant’s ceremonial powers virtually disappeared for 2,000 years, while the spiritual cultures it birthed were corrupted: false priests installed, new dogmas created. All trace of the plant was removed from all texts, a ploy not entirely successful, so deep was this plant woven into the fabric of these cultures.
In the 1880s, the plant’s magic ceremonial powers were re-discovered in New Orleans by African slaves owned by French planters who’d recently escaped the Haitian Revolution. These slaves invited Natives and others to join their ceremonies and soon created the most influential cultural movement of any time. However, no sooner did this movement appear, than governments moved to squash it, using persecution of the plant as the hammer to achieve their goal.
In the 1960s, surfers in California discovered the plant, and it led them on a sacred journey back to the plant’s original origins. When they returned from Afghanistan, they brought the ancient ceremony used at those original healing temples that once dotted the landscape from India to Iran. In case you haven’t figured it out yet, that ceremony is called The OM Circle. It is also the best method for dispelling panic and turning off fight/flight mode. And thus I believe it can also be an important tool to help deprogram the mind control memes being run today.
So when people ask me to prescribe 420 ceremonies, I must confess the OM is the greatest harmonization ritual I know, and I think it works through a triangulation of touch, sound and telepathy.
Last year, there was a shooting at the 420 event in Denver. I hope participants shift their mindset from celebrating cannabis, to celebrating peace and the coming end to the drug war. Someday I hope all plants are free.
But wouldn’t it be a wonderful thing to see a hundred thousand voices erupt in an OM in Denver some day?
In the 1880s, the plant’s magic ceremonial powers were re-discovered in New Orleans by African slaves owned by French planters who’d recently escaped the Haitian Revolution. These slaves invited Natives and others to join their ceremonies and soon created the most influential cultural movement of any time. However, no sooner did this movement appear, than governments moved to squash it, using persecution of the plant as the hammer to achieve their goal.
In the 1960s, surfers in California discovered the plant, and it led them on a sacred journey back to the plant’s original origins. When they returned from Afghanistan, they brought the ancient ceremony used at those original healing temples that once dotted the landscape from India to Iran. In case you haven’t figured it out yet, that ceremony is called The OM Circle. It is also the best method for dispelling panic and turning off fight/flight mode. And thus I believe it can also be an important tool to help deprogram the mind control memes being run today.
So when people ask me to prescribe 420 ceremonies, I must confess the OM is the greatest harmonization ritual I know, and I think it works through a triangulation of touch, sound and telepathy.
Last year, there was a shooting at the 420 event in Denver. I hope participants shift their mindset from celebrating cannabis, to celebrating peace and the coming end to the drug war. Someday I hope all plants are free.
But wouldn’t it be a wonderful thing to see a hundred thousand voices erupt in an OM in Denver some day?
31 March 2014 15:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ten thousand years ago, the use of a certain sacramental plant spread like a wild-fire across most of the globe, from Europe to India to China. Enormous temples were built in the honor of this plant. But they weren’t just temples, they were the greatest hospitals and healing centers of their time. The plant was mixed with hot milk and spices and served to treat all afflictions, and became known as the king of healing plants, creator of magic and immortality, the tree of life.
Sharing love energy is a ceremony. But then sharing anything is a ceremony.
Did you know there’s a love ceremony handed down for over 10,000 years intact, one that carries zero dogma and seeks only to harmonize participants? To outsiders, it may seem strange and can be mistaken for some cult brainwashing tool, but I guarantee this ancient ceremony works as well as any I’ve ever run across.
When your fight/flight response is activated, your emergency energy system turns on, and that jolt of energy has a tendency to overwhelm your brain, resulting in unproductive panic behavior. In that state you can easily freeze, or make the worst decision possible. Mental states are telepathic and create energy waves that can be felt and amplified, which is why panic spreads through a crowd fast as wind-whipped fire.
Fear is the basis of all mind control, and when a sorcerer wants to cast a spell, creating a panic and guiding that vibration wherever he wants to take it is the primary device at his disposal. A scapegoat will be manufactured, tortured in public and then executed, followed by free grog for all. This is the way dark magic has worked for millennium.
Modern media has put most of the population on the edge of fight/flight mode through extreme levels of violence programming. And you won’t find much solace from this vibration in the conspiracy community, where fear levels are tweaked even higher.
Sharing love energy is a ceremony. But then sharing anything is a ceremony.
Did you know there’s a love ceremony handed down for over 10,000 years intact, one that carries zero dogma and seeks only to harmonize participants? To outsiders, it may seem strange and can be mistaken for some cult brainwashing tool, but I guarantee this ancient ceremony works as well as any I’ve ever run across.
When your fight/flight response is activated, your emergency energy system turns on, and that jolt of energy has a tendency to overwhelm your brain, resulting in unproductive panic behavior. In that state you can easily freeze, or make the worst decision possible. Mental states are telepathic and create energy waves that can be felt and amplified, which is why panic spreads through a crowd fast as wind-whipped fire.
Fear is the basis of all mind control, and when a sorcerer wants to cast a spell, creating a panic and guiding that vibration wherever he wants to take it is the primary device at his disposal. A scapegoat will be manufactured, tortured in public and then executed, followed by free grog for all. This is the way dark magic has worked for millennium.
Modern media has put most of the population on the edge of fight/flight mode through extreme levels of violence programming. And you won’t find much solace from this vibration in the conspiracy community, where fear levels are tweaked even higher.
31 March 2014 15:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But some dark sorcerer made the plant that caused the awakening a scapegoat. It was a clever campaign, executed in stages over a great expanse of time. The plant’s ceremonial powers virtually disappeared for 2,000 years, while the spiritual cultures it birthed were corrupted: false priests installed, new dogmas created. All trace of the plant was removed from all texts, a ploy not entirely successful, so deep was this plant woven into the fabric of these cultures.
In the 1880s, the plant’s magic ceremonial powers were re-discovered in New Orleans by African slaves owned by French planters who’d recently escaped the Haitian Revolution. These slaves invited Natives and others to join their ceremonies and soon created the most influential cultural movement of any time. However, no sooner did this movement appear, than governments moved to squash it, using persecution of the plant as the hammer to achieve their goal.
In the 1960s, surfers in California discovered the plant, and it led them on a sacred journey back to the plant’s original origins. When they returned from Afghanistan, they brought the ancient ceremony used at those original healing temples that once dotted the landscape from India to Iran. In case you haven’t figured it out yet, that ceremony is called The OM Circle. It is also the best method for dispelling panic and turning off fight/flight mode. And thus I believe it can also be an important tool to help deprogram the mind control memes being run today.
So when people ask me to prescribe 420 ceremonies, I must confess the OM is the greatest harmonization ritual I know, and I think it works through a triangulation of touch, sound and telepathy.
Last year, there was a shooting at the 420 event in Denver. I hope participants shift their mindset from celebrating cannabis, to celebrating peace and the coming end to the drug war. Someday I hope all plants are free.
But wouldn’t it be a wonderful thing to see a hundred thousand voices erupt in an OM in Denver some day?
In the 1880s, the plant’s magic ceremonial powers were re-discovered in New Orleans by African slaves owned by French planters who’d recently escaped the Haitian Revolution. These slaves invited Natives and others to join their ceremonies and soon created the most influential cultural movement of any time. However, no sooner did this movement appear, than governments moved to squash it, using persecution of the plant as the hammer to achieve their goal.
In the 1960s, surfers in California discovered the plant, and it led them on a sacred journey back to the plant’s original origins. When they returned from Afghanistan, they brought the ancient ceremony used at those original healing temples that once dotted the landscape from India to Iran. In case you haven’t figured it out yet, that ceremony is called The OM Circle. It is also the best method for dispelling panic and turning off fight/flight mode. And thus I believe it can also be an important tool to help deprogram the mind control memes being run today.
So when people ask me to prescribe 420 ceremonies, I must confess the OM is the greatest harmonization ritual I know, and I think it works through a triangulation of touch, sound and telepathy.
Last year, there was a shooting at the 420 event in Denver. I hope participants shift their mindset from celebrating cannabis, to celebrating peace and the coming end to the drug war. Someday I hope all plants are free.
But wouldn’t it be a wonderful thing to see a hundred thousand voices erupt in an OM in Denver some day?
31 March 2014 15:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ten thousand years ago, the use of a certain sacramental plant spread like a wild-fire across most of the globe, from Europe to India to China. Enormous temples were built in the honor of this plant. But they weren’t just temples, they were the greatest hospitals and healing centers of their time. The plant was mixed with hot milk and spices and served to treat all afflictions, and became known as the king of healing plants, creator of magic and immortality, the tree of life.
Sharing love energy is a ceremony. But then sharing anything is a ceremony.
Did you know there’s a love ceremony handed down for over 10,000 years intact, one that carries zero dogma and seeks only to harmonize participants? To outsiders, it may seem strange and can be mistaken for some cult brainwashing tool, but I guarantee this ancient ceremony works as well as any I’ve ever run across.
When your fight/flight response is activated, your emergency energy system turns on, and that jolt of energy has a tendency to overwhelm your brain, resulting in unproductive panic behavior. In that state you can easily freeze, or make the worst decision possible. Mental states are telepathic and create energy waves that can be felt and amplified, which is why panic spreads through a crowd fast as wind-whipped fire.
Fear is the basis of all mind control, and when a sorcerer wants to cast a spell, creating a panic and guiding that vibration wherever he wants to take it is the primary device at his disposal. A scapegoat will be manufactured, tortured in public and then executed, followed by free grog for all. This is the way dark magic has worked for millennium.
Modern media has put most of the population on the edge of fight/flight mode through extreme levels of violence programming. And you won’t find much solace from this vibration in the conspiracy community, where fear levels are tweaked even higher.
Sharing love energy is a ceremony. But then sharing anything is a ceremony.
Did you know there’s a love ceremony handed down for over 10,000 years intact, one that carries zero dogma and seeks only to harmonize participants? To outsiders, it may seem strange and can be mistaken for some cult brainwashing tool, but I guarantee this ancient ceremony works as well as any I’ve ever run across.
When your fight/flight response is activated, your emergency energy system turns on, and that jolt of energy has a tendency to overwhelm your brain, resulting in unproductive panic behavior. In that state you can easily freeze, or make the worst decision possible. Mental states are telepathic and create energy waves that can be felt and amplified, which is why panic spreads through a crowd fast as wind-whipped fire.
Fear is the basis of all mind control, and when a sorcerer wants to cast a spell, creating a panic and guiding that vibration wherever he wants to take it is the primary device at his disposal. A scapegoat will be manufactured, tortured in public and then executed, followed by free grog for all. This is the way dark magic has worked for millennium.
Modern media has put most of the population on the edge of fight/flight mode through extreme levels of violence programming. And you won’t find much solace from this vibration in the conspiracy community, where fear levels are tweaked even higher.
31 March 2014 15:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(ma ju UKs, siin empsi paev tana)
31 March 2014 15:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Jaa, nu ja emad veel nii ka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjwZAa2EjKA :)
St, see pohiline..
St, see pohiline..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjwZAa2EjKA
31 March 2014 15:07
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
someties you to strange
31 March 2014 11:41
Margus Meigo commented on JTA News's photo.
"...of words..."
What about these tribes that have been there thousand years before Rurik come on in this aria - are they wordy in main political Jewish tribes eyes, this is main point that should be expressed before, so we know on what ground who is meeting, with who..
What about these tribes that have been there thousand years before Rurik come on in this aria - are they wordy in main political Jewish tribes eyes, this is main point that should be expressed before, so we know on what ground who is meeting, with who..
31 March 2014 06:58
Margus Meigo commented on Emmanuel Manalo's photo.
Were is picture that She did? .. :)
... can She make photo , can reply attach photo here
... can She make photo , can reply attach photo here
30 March 2014 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Niikui tana raakima hakkasin inimestele oma facebooki teemadest, siis argmine moment konto uued kontaktid plokeeritud koos weebi sisse logimisega kaheks nadalaks (vist 5-6 kord, + 3 konto plokkimist... ja seda koike enne seda kui pariselt kasutama olen hakanud seda...)
30 March 2014 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Group: Rahvuslased
voi lihtsalt, seekord, kogu veneriigi eemaldamine mulle sobivam, kui ruuriku kokku aetud kamp liiga liiale laheb nurjatusega...28 March 2014 22:49
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
Merkuri osas aga ple motet pidama jaada ta meditsiini probleemi osas, ta palju muud vahat teinud, laulnud ja yelnud, ispireerinud
28 March 2014 22:48
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
Samas aga mida paljud muud elujaoks toodavad (motted loevad, voi keegi loeb motteid.. kuidas iganes votta, aga mitmed Nod on isekal arvamusel tavainimeste suhtes ja tihti isegi oma vanemate - seega nod ebamaised ja ebavajalikud vaibid maakerajaoks, igast salatsemine ja endast hasti arvamine vastandades vastandades inimestele... ega sest pikalt head ei tule, kuid eks plaan ole koige jaoks...)
28 March 2014 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
tyyp on legend ikkagi, tal see gay asi vist taitsa andestatav kuna toi kasu inimkonnale imho tagasi kuhjaga hingest lauldes ja isegi tehes ja yeldes asju mille jaoks enamusel munasi pold
28 March 2014 22:43
Margus Meigo commented on Emmanuel Manalo's photo.
Is She cry, why?
28 March 2014 18:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid onneks moned veel
http://www.clicktop10.com/2013/08/top-10-most-popular-news-channels-of-2013/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_media
http://www.clicktop10.com/2013/08/top-10-most-popular-news-channels-of-2013/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_media
http://www.clicktop10.com/2013/08/top-10-most-popular-news-channels-of-2013/
28 March 2014 15:32
Margus Meigo commented on Brian Wilkes's post.
So this is for sure, that Congress consent was for sure missing, even in thoughts ?
28 March 2014 14:44
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Taitsa biibline naine kes oma voimeid ja maailma tunneb tundub : )
28 March 2014 14:41
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
Motlesin ka sama...
28 March 2014 13:59
Margus Meigo commented on Anita Kilkenny's post.
its also possible to make yoga with hat in your head
27 March 2014 03:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Reply's on https://www.facebook.com/estonia.eesti page, under same post, some extra from Forbes there as well, a lot of words ...
facebook.com
Estonia
27 March 2014 02:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Estonian Border City Putin’s Likeliest Next Target
Nick Ottens | March 25, 2014
Alexander's Cathedral in Narva, Estonia, October 22, 2007
Alexander’s Cathedral in Narva, Estonia, October 22, 2007 (Wikimedia Commons)
After Russia’s annexation of the Crimea, the Moldovan breakaway region of Transnistria might seem the likeliest target for future Russian territorial claims. Indeed, the region, which, like the Crimea, has a majority ethnic Russian population, requested admission into the Russian Federation last week. In a 2006 referendum, 97 percent of Transnistrians voted to join Russia.
But as Daniel Berman, a PhD candidate at the London School of Economics, points out at his blog, Russian annexation of Transnistria is actually unlikely. Whereas the Crimea was historically part of Russia and is separated from the country only by a narrow waterway, Transnistria shares no border with Russia. Rather it borders on the west of Ukraine — the very region that seeks deeper integration with the rest of Europe instead of Russia.
The “next Crimea,” Berman suggests, is more likely to be the northeast of Estonia. The city of Narva there, the Baltic state’s third largest, has an 82 percent ethnic Russian population. 94 percent of the city’s residents speaks Russian. Like the Crimea’s Sevastopol, which headquarters Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, Narva was a Russian port city and the site of major battles — against the Swedes, in the early eighteenth century, and the Germans, during World War II.
Russia justified its intervention in Ukraine by claiming a right to protect Russian speakers and “compatriots” in the former Soviet republic. Last week, a Russian diplomat raised concerns over the treatment of Russian speakers in Estonia, saying, “Language should not be used to segregate and isolate groups,” and expressing alarm “by steps taken in this regard in Estonia as well as in Ukraine.”
Russian worries are not without merit. As Berman writes, “Narva is a major symbol of what is one of Estonia’s largest domestic problems, its effort to reduce the size of its Russian minority population through the mechanism of denying a substantial percentage of its residents citizenship.”
Less than half of Narva’s residents have Estonian citizenship while some 36 percent are Russian citizens. Another 16 percent holds no citizenship at all.
Social problems disproportionately affect Estonia’s Russian speakers, from unemployment to crime to drug and alcohol abuse. 40 percent of Narva’s residents is jobless and the city has one of the highest HIV rates in Europe.
Berman assesses that Russia’s case for intervention in Narva is stronger than it was in the Crimea. The city is almost uniformly Russian in population and has more cause for discontent with the government in Tallinn than the Crimea did with the pro-Western authorities that replaced President Viktor Yanukovich in Kiev.
By contrast, he writes, the West has less reason to oppose a Russian attempt at annexation. Narva has little economic or strategic value, “the Estonian government’s treatment of the local population is indefensible and the locals, especially those who are stateless, have much to gain from Russian support.”
Yet the West would be compelled to respond, given that Estonia is a member of NATO and the other allies have committed to its defense.
Berman, then, describes Narva as “the point of maximum weakness for the alliance.” NATO is obligated to fight for it but if it did, the alliance “would be intervening to prevent a genuinely oppressed local population from exercising self-determination.” Russian president Vladimir Putin, he adds, “could ask for no better battlefield.”
http://atlanticsentinel.com/2014/03/estonian-border-city-putins-likeliest-next-target/
Nick Ottens | March 25, 2014
Alexander's Cathedral in Narva, Estonia, October 22, 2007
Alexander’s Cathedral in Narva, Estonia, October 22, 2007 (Wikimedia Commons)
After Russia’s annexation of the Crimea, the Moldovan breakaway region of Transnistria might seem the likeliest target for future Russian territorial claims. Indeed, the region, which, like the Crimea, has a majority ethnic Russian population, requested admission into the Russian Federation last week. In a 2006 referendum, 97 percent of Transnistrians voted to join Russia.
But as Daniel Berman, a PhD candidate at the London School of Economics, points out at his blog, Russian annexation of Transnistria is actually unlikely. Whereas the Crimea was historically part of Russia and is separated from the country only by a narrow waterway, Transnistria shares no border with Russia. Rather it borders on the west of Ukraine — the very region that seeks deeper integration with the rest of Europe instead of Russia.
The “next Crimea,” Berman suggests, is more likely to be the northeast of Estonia. The city of Narva there, the Baltic state’s third largest, has an 82 percent ethnic Russian population. 94 percent of the city’s residents speaks Russian. Like the Crimea’s Sevastopol, which headquarters Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, Narva was a Russian port city and the site of major battles — against the Swedes, in the early eighteenth century, and the Germans, during World War II.
Russia justified its intervention in Ukraine by claiming a right to protect Russian speakers and “compatriots” in the former Soviet republic. Last week, a Russian diplomat raised concerns over the treatment of Russian speakers in Estonia, saying, “Language should not be used to segregate and isolate groups,” and expressing alarm “by steps taken in this regard in Estonia as well as in Ukraine.”
Russian worries are not without merit. As Berman writes, “Narva is a major symbol of what is one of Estonia’s largest domestic problems, its effort to reduce the size of its Russian minority population through the mechanism of denying a substantial percentage of its residents citizenship.”
Less than half of Narva’s residents have Estonian citizenship while some 36 percent are Russian citizens. Another 16 percent holds no citizenship at all.
Social problems disproportionately affect Estonia’s Russian speakers, from unemployment to crime to drug and alcohol abuse. 40 percent of Narva’s residents is jobless and the city has one of the highest HIV rates in Europe.
Berman assesses that Russia’s case for intervention in Narva is stronger than it was in the Crimea. The city is almost uniformly Russian in population and has more cause for discontent with the government in Tallinn than the Crimea did with the pro-Western authorities that replaced President Viktor Yanukovich in Kiev.
By contrast, he writes, the West has less reason to oppose a Russian attempt at annexation. Narva has little economic or strategic value, “the Estonian government’s treatment of the local population is indefensible and the locals, especially those who are stateless, have much to gain from Russian support.”
Yet the West would be compelled to respond, given that Estonia is a member of NATO and the other allies have committed to its defense.
Berman, then, describes Narva as “the point of maximum weakness for the alliance.” NATO is obligated to fight for it but if it did, the alliance “would be intervening to prevent a genuinely oppressed local population from exercising self-determination.” Russian president Vladimir Putin, he adds, “could ask for no better battlefield.”
http://atlanticsentinel.com/2014/03/estonian-border-city-putins-likeliest-next-target/
http://atlanticsentinel.com/2014/03/estonian-border-city-putins-likeliest-next-target/
27 March 2014 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And I am not kidding you, top of next post, from TIME.com - same magazine that put Putin as most great power person on earth last year..
A Russian diplomat said Estonia, like Ukraine, needed to respect the rights of its Russian speakers
A Russian diplomat voiced “concern” over Estonia’s treatment of its Russian-speaking minority on Wednesday, one day after Russia formally annexed Ukraine’s Crimea peninsula over similar fears of mistreatment.
“Language should not be used to segregate and isolate groups,” said Russia’s diplomat to the U.N. Human Rights Council, according to Reuters. He was objecting to Estonia’s longstanding policy that all of its citizens speak Estonian, including the Russian minority.
He added that he was “concerned by steps taken in this regard in Estonia as well as in Ukraine.”
US Vice President Joe Biden (R) and Estonian President Toomas Hendik Ilves attend a press a conference at the end of their meeting in Warsaw on March 18, 2014.
http://time.com/31494/russia-expresses-concern-for-estonias-russian-community/
A Russian diplomat said Estonia, like Ukraine, needed to respect the rights of its Russian speakers
A Russian diplomat voiced “concern” over Estonia’s treatment of its Russian-speaking minority on Wednesday, one day after Russia formally annexed Ukraine’s Crimea peninsula over similar fears of mistreatment.
“Language should not be used to segregate and isolate groups,” said Russia’s diplomat to the U.N. Human Rights Council, according to Reuters. He was objecting to Estonia’s longstanding policy that all of its citizens speak Estonian, including the Russian minority.
He added that he was “concerned by steps taken in this regard in Estonia as well as in Ukraine.”
US Vice President Joe Biden (R) and Estonian President Toomas Hendik Ilves attend a press a conference at the end of their meeting in Warsaw on March 18, 2014.
http://time.com/31494/russia-expresses-concern-for-estonias-russian-community/
http://time.com/31494/russia-expresses-concern-for-estonias-russian-community/
27 March 2014 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But Ilves doesn’t think Moscow will have much luck on that front. Ethnic Russians in Estonia, Ilves says, live far better, freer lives than Russians living in Russia. “If you want to not have the euro, not get the real rule of law, have free movement of labor to Siberia, and stand in line to get a visa for the EU, I guess that’s an option for somebody, but it’s not really a problem,” he scoffs, with typically wry humor. Tallinn, he boasts, is a favorite destination for liberal Russians seeking escape from their more authoritarian society.
140326-kirchick-ilvesPierre Verdy/AFP/Getty
Ilves himself is something of a poster-boy for Estonia as a modern, cosmopolitan European country with global connections, and he’s easy to pick out in a crowd, since he’s usually seen at public events sporting a bow tie. Born in Sweden to Estonian refugees, he was raised in New Jersey and graduated from Columbia University. He earned his stripes as a Cold Warrior when he was the head of the Estonia desk at Radio Free Europe. After Estonia gained its independence from the Soviet Union in 1991, he became Estonia’s ambassador to the United States, and thereafter launched a career in Estonian politics. Active and popular on Twitter, he embodies his country’s reputation for being tech-savvy.
Indeed, in 2012, Ilves got into a high profile, rough-and-tumble Twitter spat with New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, who mocked Estonia’s austerity measures, which the country had undertaken in response to the worldwide financial crisis. “Let’s write about something we know nothing about & be smug, overbearing & patronizing: after all, they’re just wogs,” Ilves began, unleashing a string of biting and witty responses.
Estonia may be small, but it’s proud and has ambitions in the global economy. It is one of only four NATO members which actually spends 2 per cent or more of its GDP on defense, the minimum suggested by the military alliance. Estonia, the land where Skype was invented, produces more tech start-ups per capita than any other country in Europe. The hashtag #estonianmafia is playfully used to characterize the disproportionate presence of Estonians in the world of high-tech.
Estonia also has diversified its energy supply so as to become less dependent on Russia, thus serving as a model for the rest of Europe. While Estonia receives 100 percent of its natural gas from Russia, this accounts for less than 15 percent of the country’s total energy use. For years, Ilves has been one of the loudest voices warning the West to reduce its energy dependence on Moscow. When U.S. Vice President Joe Biden visited Estonia last week in a show of support for Eastern European countries feeling threatened by the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Ilves urged him to seek changes to a U.S. law limiting gas exports to the continent. One hopes this advice, along with much else about Russia, will be taken more seriously now in Western capitals.
Many Americans, witnessing a world of tumult and weary of two long wars, may not understand why they should concern themselves with quarrels in far away countries about which most know little. For them, Ilves has stern council: “If you break the kind of rules that were just broken,” he says, “you’re going to find yourself in a very big war somewhere.”
140326-kirchick-ilvesPierre Verdy/AFP/Getty
Ilves himself is something of a poster-boy for Estonia as a modern, cosmopolitan European country with global connections, and he’s easy to pick out in a crowd, since he’s usually seen at public events sporting a bow tie. Born in Sweden to Estonian refugees, he was raised in New Jersey and graduated from Columbia University. He earned his stripes as a Cold Warrior when he was the head of the Estonia desk at Radio Free Europe. After Estonia gained its independence from the Soviet Union in 1991, he became Estonia’s ambassador to the United States, and thereafter launched a career in Estonian politics. Active and popular on Twitter, he embodies his country’s reputation for being tech-savvy.
Indeed, in 2012, Ilves got into a high profile, rough-and-tumble Twitter spat with New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, who mocked Estonia’s austerity measures, which the country had undertaken in response to the worldwide financial crisis. “Let’s write about something we know nothing about & be smug, overbearing & patronizing: after all, they’re just wogs,” Ilves began, unleashing a string of biting and witty responses.
Estonia may be small, but it’s proud and has ambitions in the global economy. It is one of only four NATO members which actually spends 2 per cent or more of its GDP on defense, the minimum suggested by the military alliance. Estonia, the land where Skype was invented, produces more tech start-ups per capita than any other country in Europe. The hashtag #estonianmafia is playfully used to characterize the disproportionate presence of Estonians in the world of high-tech.
Estonia also has diversified its energy supply so as to become less dependent on Russia, thus serving as a model for the rest of Europe. While Estonia receives 100 percent of its natural gas from Russia, this accounts for less than 15 percent of the country’s total energy use. For years, Ilves has been one of the loudest voices warning the West to reduce its energy dependence on Moscow. When U.S. Vice President Joe Biden visited Estonia last week in a show of support for Eastern European countries feeling threatened by the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Ilves urged him to seek changes to a U.S. law limiting gas exports to the continent. One hopes this advice, along with much else about Russia, will be taken more seriously now in Western capitals.
Many Americans, witnessing a world of tumult and weary of two long wars, may not understand why they should concern themselves with quarrels in far away countries about which most know little. For them, Ilves has stern council: “If you break the kind of rules that were just broken,” he says, “you’re going to find yourself in a very big war somewhere.”
27 March 2014 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Russia May Threaten the Baltics but Estonia Knows How to Fight Back
Estonia’s President Ilves says go after the Kremlin’s banks like you’d go after a terrorist’s, question the legitimacy of Russian passports, and never doubt Putin’s taste for territory.
As president of a small Baltic republic that was occupied by the Soviet Union for more than four decades, Estonia’s Toomas Hendrik Ilves is all too familiar with the way Russia has treated its neighbors. For years he’s warned about the revanchist agenda and aggressive behavior of Russian President Vladimir Putin. And now that the world has seen the Kremlin’s reckless, ruthless actions in Ukraine and Crimea, influential leaders in the respectable salons of Washington, Brussels and other European capitals are starting to pay attention. Or, at least, they should be.
What’s most threatening about Russia’s behavior, in Ilves’s view, is that “the old rules don’t apply.” But it should not have taken the invasion of Crimea to get that message across. The Helsinki Accords of 1975 were supposed to have established the territorial integrity of European nations, he says, and since Russia’s 2008 invasion of Georgia it’s been clear that Putin would just ignore them when he saw fit.
The sanctions announced thus far by the United States and the European Union aren’t likely to do the job, Ilves told me last weekend on the sidelines of the Brussels Forum, a conference sponsored by the German Marshall Fund. The current measures threaten visa restrictions and asset freezes against Putin’s cronies, but the mood in Moscow is such that most of those on the list see having their names there as “a badge of honor,” says Ilves.
So, where should the West focus its attention?
Ilves’ eyes light up and he repeats one word: “Banks,” he says. “Banks.” The American sanctions have targeted one financial institution so far, Bank Rossiya, described by the U.S. as “the personal bank for senior officials.” But such measures could go much further. After the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the United States developed a complex and stringent system for applying economic sanctions to target terrorist funding. Ilves would like to see the same sort of tools deployed against many of the banks doing business with the Russian government and Putin’s cronies.
Ilves also raises the idea of reviewing Europe’s recognition of Russian passports as “trustworthy travel documents.” A key element of Moscow’s game plan in the territories it wants to take is “passportization,” the cynical—not to mention illegal—distribution of Russian passports to citizens of other countries. That’s what it did in the Georgian territories of Abkhazia and South Ossetia in the run-up to the 2008 War. Earlier this month it did the same thing in Crimea. “If it were some other country that was a passport mill, there would be a reaction to that,” says Ilves.
“This document [the Russian passport] is now being thrown all over the place, to everybody, it means nothing.”
Without getting into specifics, Ilves says EU countries should “review” their entire approach to dealing with Russian passports. “This document is now being thrown all over the place, to everybody, it means nothing, and therefore we have to cease—until we come up with a new policy—recognizing this as a legitimate travel document.”
Yet Ilves is worried that his fellow Europeans may not be up to the task. “Robert Kagan was completely off when he said Americans are from Mars, Europeans from Venus,” Ilves said, referring to Kagan’s widely discussed 2003 book, Of Paradise and Power, which postulated that the continent had adopted a post-martial worldview. “Europeans are from Pluto.” Ilves, whose family history straddles both continents, is trying to bridge that gap.
Estonia, along with the other Baltic republics of Latvia and Lithuania, has obvious reason to fear Russian designs on its own territory. A quarter of the country’s 1.3 million people are Russian-speakers, and in light of Putin’s declared policy reserving Russia’s unilateral right to “protect” Russians abroad—its pretext for the Crimea operation—some fear that the Baltics may be next.
Estonia has had problems integrating its ethnic Russian population, and a 2007 riot over the government’s relocation of a Soviet-era war statue was just the sort of incident that the Kremlin might take advantage of to stir discord (a nationwide cyber attack followed, which the Estonian government blamed on Moscow). Language rights have been a persistent flashpoint, since state employees are required to speak Estonian. Earlier this month, a Russian diplomat delivered a speech at the United Nations Human Rights Council in Geneva asserting that, “language should not be used to segregate and isolate groups,” and Russia was “concerned by steps taken in this regard in Estonia as well as in Ukraine.” To Baltic ears, that’s an ominous sounding remark.
Estonia’s President Ilves says go after the Kremlin’s banks like you’d go after a terrorist’s, question the legitimacy of Russian passports, and never doubt Putin’s taste for territory.
As president of a small Baltic republic that was occupied by the Soviet Union for more than four decades, Estonia’s Toomas Hendrik Ilves is all too familiar with the way Russia has treated its neighbors. For years he’s warned about the revanchist agenda and aggressive behavior of Russian President Vladimir Putin. And now that the world has seen the Kremlin’s reckless, ruthless actions in Ukraine and Crimea, influential leaders in the respectable salons of Washington, Brussels and other European capitals are starting to pay attention. Or, at least, they should be.
What’s most threatening about Russia’s behavior, in Ilves’s view, is that “the old rules don’t apply.” But it should not have taken the invasion of Crimea to get that message across. The Helsinki Accords of 1975 were supposed to have established the territorial integrity of European nations, he says, and since Russia’s 2008 invasion of Georgia it’s been clear that Putin would just ignore them when he saw fit.
The sanctions announced thus far by the United States and the European Union aren’t likely to do the job, Ilves told me last weekend on the sidelines of the Brussels Forum, a conference sponsored by the German Marshall Fund. The current measures threaten visa restrictions and asset freezes against Putin’s cronies, but the mood in Moscow is such that most of those on the list see having their names there as “a badge of honor,” says Ilves.
So, where should the West focus its attention?
Ilves’ eyes light up and he repeats one word: “Banks,” he says. “Banks.” The American sanctions have targeted one financial institution so far, Bank Rossiya, described by the U.S. as “the personal bank for senior officials.” But such measures could go much further. After the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the United States developed a complex and stringent system for applying economic sanctions to target terrorist funding. Ilves would like to see the same sort of tools deployed against many of the banks doing business with the Russian government and Putin’s cronies.
Ilves also raises the idea of reviewing Europe’s recognition of Russian passports as “trustworthy travel documents.” A key element of Moscow’s game plan in the territories it wants to take is “passportization,” the cynical—not to mention illegal—distribution of Russian passports to citizens of other countries. That’s what it did in the Georgian territories of Abkhazia and South Ossetia in the run-up to the 2008 War. Earlier this month it did the same thing in Crimea. “If it were some other country that was a passport mill, there would be a reaction to that,” says Ilves.
“This document [the Russian passport] is now being thrown all over the place, to everybody, it means nothing.”
Without getting into specifics, Ilves says EU countries should “review” their entire approach to dealing with Russian passports. “This document is now being thrown all over the place, to everybody, it means nothing, and therefore we have to cease—until we come up with a new policy—recognizing this as a legitimate travel document.”
Yet Ilves is worried that his fellow Europeans may not be up to the task. “Robert Kagan was completely off when he said Americans are from Mars, Europeans from Venus,” Ilves said, referring to Kagan’s widely discussed 2003 book, Of Paradise and Power, which postulated that the continent had adopted a post-martial worldview. “Europeans are from Pluto.” Ilves, whose family history straddles both continents, is trying to bridge that gap.
Estonia, along with the other Baltic republics of Latvia and Lithuania, has obvious reason to fear Russian designs on its own territory. A quarter of the country’s 1.3 million people are Russian-speakers, and in light of Putin’s declared policy reserving Russia’s unilateral right to “protect” Russians abroad—its pretext for the Crimea operation—some fear that the Baltics may be next.
Estonia has had problems integrating its ethnic Russian population, and a 2007 riot over the government’s relocation of a Soviet-era war statue was just the sort of incident that the Kremlin might take advantage of to stir discord (a nationwide cyber attack followed, which the Estonian government blamed on Moscow). Language rights have been a persistent flashpoint, since state employees are required to speak Estonian. Earlier this month, a Russian diplomat delivered a speech at the United Nations Human Rights Council in Geneva asserting that, “language should not be used to segregate and isolate groups,” and Russia was “concerned by steps taken in this regard in Estonia as well as in Ukraine.” To Baltic ears, that’s an ominous sounding remark.
27 March 2014 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Group: Rahvuslased
Mida seal oppida on, mis nad votavad nagu kuuenda klassi ajaloo raamatud katte ja kordavad keskaja aegu ja maapiire yle, et ega nad kaua yle tuhande kahesaja aasta siin ryystanud pole..
umbes sama aeg "venemaad tekitama" kui mingi mystiline radiatsioon mis poolt maakylge mojutas ja samal ajal inglisma taevas suurt punast risti nahti..
http://www.google.co.uk/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-a&hs=HOx&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=sb&q=radiation+1200+years+OR+774..776+&oq=radiation+1200+years+OR+774..776
mitte, et siin millegagi seos peaks olema, just sayng..http://www.google.co.uk/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=firefox-a&hs=HOx&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=sb&q=radiation+1200+years+OR+774..776+&oq=radiation+1200+years+OR+774..776
26 March 2014 23:51
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
/me piilub arvuti ekraani selle nurga tagant "kus kus ? Mina v22?"
26 March 2014 23:43
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
maletate kui vosa pets ta kallal kobisema laks ja savi pats ytles talle kaamerate ees vaikselt "sa parem ole vaga ettevaatlik..."
ja enne aasta myydudes vosa pets oli keskerakonnas...
ja enne aasta myydudes vosa pets oli keskerakonnas...
26 March 2014 23:42
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
Savi pats ise voimas, tho
26 March 2014 23:41
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
Hey, did you see the face of demo crazy..
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=3A383B8CC1D03D22!1244&authkey=!ANLq57bPbnLwO_A&ithint=folder%2c.jpg
As my friend noted: word is from 2 part... People Power ...
But for what kind of people, and what kind of power over who or what .. he gos on..
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=3A383B8CC1D03D22!1244&authkey=!ANLq57bPbnLwO_A&ithint=folder%2c.jpg
As my friend noted: word is from 2 part... People Power ...
But for what kind of people, and what kind of power over who or what .. he gos on..
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=3A383B8CC1D03D22!1244&authkey=!ANLq57bPbnLwO_A&ithint=folder%2c.jpg
26 March 2014 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
Can you imagine if i would try to convince with my beard that wanna look in to what books they use for child mind
...
but yea,... it makes worry people, if adults think about what is provided to children.. as they might notice what in the world children also have access and WHO is printing this ... why..
Remember this child nursery rhymes that had it all from war programming to witch craft kind of things... NURSERY RHYMES it was... and comic book section is usually SO SO bad that.... makes old Disney Duck and Mickey Mice comic book series look like delight
...
but yea,... it makes worry people, if adults think about what is provided to children.. as they might notice what in the world children also have access and WHO is printing this ... why..
Remember this child nursery rhymes that had it all from war programming to witch craft kind of things... NURSERY RHYMES it was... and comic book section is usually SO SO bad that.... makes old Disney Duck and Mickey Mice comic book series look like delight
26 March 2014 23:35
Margus Meigo commented on Hannah Aiyana's post.
got some better sleeping videos now? : )
26 March 2014 06:32
Margus Meigo commented on Jaanika Jane's link.
She is so so so
26 March 2014 04:20
Margus Meigo commented on Antti Räsänen's note.
Will talk with some people in Estonia, have not been in real contact with most of people for long time ... but perhaps people can do something (but i have little idea how anyone lives there or whit who and how or where...)
but u gotta not smoke cigars in living room probably if i do find some people
what your brother in Finland says >/?
but u gotta not smoke cigars in living room probably if i do find some people
what your brother in Finland says >/?
25 March 2014 18:54
Margus Meigo commented on Antti Räsänen's note.
Who... slip from my mind that you had car cash,
Seems at least, you have much more cash then me and friendly people around at least :p
Seems at least, you have much more cash then me and friendly people around at least :p
25 March 2014 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
mul enamasti parema voi vasema jala sokke aint nappasid, vaata kas neil on sama teguviis
24 March 2014 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
samad hadjad arvatvasti
24 March 2014 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
mul jalle nood soki haldjad kuidagi alati nifferdasid yhe soki ara, aastaid.. lopuks oli mul kaks suurt kilekotitait sokke,
toislugu
enamus aint yhest paarist, maru mystiline oli kui seda sokikarja imestusega vaatasin
toislugu
enamus aint yhest paarist, maru mystiline oli kui seda sokikarja imestusega vaatasin
24 March 2014 14:00
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
hmm.. wonder why//
24 March 2014 13:45
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
24 March 2014 13:41
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
Thank you ! (says one who sleep some days ago)
24 March 2014 13:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
This site is from the friend whit who we have lived in Streets
24 March 2014 00:48
Margus Meigo commented on Hannah Aiyana's post.
This looks good site hanna
24 March 2014 00:48
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
sorry vaga ettevalmistama posti parast, lihtsalt juppe wikist mis aitab ehk melda ymaramalt, vist
24 March 2014 00:44
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
"The history of Russia begins with that of the Eastern Slavs and the Finno-Ugric peoples.
The East Slavs are Slavic peoples speaking East Slavic languages. Formerly the main population of the medieval state of Kievan Rus, by the seventeenth century they evolved into the Russian, Ukrainian, and Belarusian[1] peoples.
The Finno-Ugric peoples are any of several peoples of Eurasia who speak languages of the Finno-Ugric language family, such as the Khanty, Mansi, Hungarians, Maris, Mordvins, Sámi, Estonians, Karelians, Finns, Udmurts and Komis
Relatively little is known about the Eastern Slavs prior to approximately 859 AD...."
Wiki ytleb veel
"According to the most prevalent theory, the name Rus', like the Finnish name for Sweden (Ruotsi), is derived from an Old
Norse term for "the men who row" (rods-) as rowing was the main method of navigating the rivers of Eastern Europe, and that
it could be linked to the Swedish coastal area of Roslagen (Rus-law) or Roden, as it was known in earlier times.
The name Rus' would then have the same origin as the Finnish and Estonian names for Sweden: Ruotsi and Rootsi"
ja veel et
"According to the earliest East Slavic record, the Primary Chronicle, the Rus' were a group of Varangians among others like
Swedes and Gutes who lived on the other side of the Baltic Sea, in Scandinavia and as far as the land of the English and
the French. The Varangians were first expelled, then invited to rule the warring Slavic and Finnic tribes of Novgorod"
"..The first Western European source to mention the Rus' are the Annals of St. Bertin. These relate that Emperor Louis the
Pious' court at Ingelheim, in 839,.."
"..The Varangians left a number of rune stones in their native Sweden that tell of their journeys to what is today Russia,
Ukraine, Greece, and Belarus"
"...Varangians were invited by East Slavs to rule over them and bring order..."
Kuid veel et...
"The staunchest advocate of the anti-Normanist views in the post-WWII period was Boris Rybakov, who argued that the cultural
level of the Varangians could not have warranted an invitation from the culturally advanced Slavs.,,,"
Sojaga kuulsaks saanud ...
"Photius says that
the attack took the Greeks completely by surprise, "like a thunderbolt from heaven."
Photius goes on to describe the Rus as a fierce and savage tribe of barbarian people, completely unknown and insignificant
until they became famous in this attack. Internal details in the account show that the Rus launched the attack down the
Dneiper, originating at Kiev. "
kuid laheb ponevaks
"...for some reason the Rus did not take the City.
The Greek sources attribute this to a miracle, brought about by the singing of hymns to the Virgin and a procession around
the City walls, led by the Patriarch, bearing the robe of the Virgin about the City, which apparently resulted in a huge
storm which scattered the Rus forces and saved the City. ..." Katy perry Dark hobene tuleb meelde...
Kuid yeah, igatahes, panen yhte texti kokku, kui vaid endal arvuti oleks... saaks kiiremini rahulikumalt tehtud...
Kuid yea,
siia korvae voiks panna veel .... mida meeles hoida.. selle pati karja korval kes noid maid
Estonia was settled near the end of the last glacial era, beginning from around 10 500 years ago..
Ancient Estonia worshipped the spirits of nature.
Shamanism has had a historically important influence on the mythologies of Siberian peoples, including the Finnic, Ugric,
Yeniseian, Turkic, Mongolic, Tungusic, and other northern Eurasia and Central Asian peoples. Central concepts in their
cosmologies is the myth that the world was created from an egg, myths about the Milky Way, ideas about the existence of the
World tree or pillar, and the idea that asterisms represent animal spirits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Muromian-map.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Early_Rus.png
Et jah... et nagu neid motteid, et kes need russid on ja kust tulid.... kes me oleme ... ja kes need on kes russide voimu all siiani sunniviisiliselt, sadu aastaid... systemaatiliselt segades ja maha surudes...
point, et nagu venemaa kui selline, on vaja vabastada temast endast, ei tasu ainult minna nukraks Ukraina ja Eesti jms vallutamiste parast.. on palju vaga meeldivaid inimesi kes nende ikkesse sattunud on kes neid sodima kutsus susides yhel ja teiselpool piiri, kasutades valesi ja provokatsioon - meethodid pole muutunud tuhandete aastate jooksul, lihtsalt yhest suunast tundub koik lihtsamaks lainud...
Kuid see sama asi mille labi nad meid katekoriseerida ja kontrollida pyyavad, need samad tehnoloogiad me kasutame nende enda paljastamiseks,... kohe kui ykskord prhavatab vimm ja moistus ja hellus samal ajal, siis teame mis teha..
meil mass meedia nyyd ju, wee ... : )
The East Slavs are Slavic peoples speaking East Slavic languages. Formerly the main population of the medieval state of Kievan Rus, by the seventeenth century they evolved into the Russian, Ukrainian, and Belarusian[1] peoples.
The Finno-Ugric peoples are any of several peoples of Eurasia who speak languages of the Finno-Ugric language family, such as the Khanty, Mansi, Hungarians, Maris, Mordvins, Sámi, Estonians, Karelians, Finns, Udmurts and Komis
Relatively little is known about the Eastern Slavs prior to approximately 859 AD...."
Wiki ytleb veel
"According to the most prevalent theory, the name Rus', like the Finnish name for Sweden (Ruotsi), is derived from an Old
Norse term for "the men who row" (rods-) as rowing was the main method of navigating the rivers of Eastern Europe, and that
it could be linked to the Swedish coastal area of Roslagen (Rus-law) or Roden, as it was known in earlier times.
The name Rus' would then have the same origin as the Finnish and Estonian names for Sweden: Ruotsi and Rootsi"
ja veel et
"According to the earliest East Slavic record, the Primary Chronicle, the Rus' were a group of Varangians among others like
Swedes and Gutes who lived on the other side of the Baltic Sea, in Scandinavia and as far as the land of the English and
the French. The Varangians were first expelled, then invited to rule the warring Slavic and Finnic tribes of Novgorod"
"..The first Western European source to mention the Rus' are the Annals of St. Bertin. These relate that Emperor Louis the
Pious' court at Ingelheim, in 839,.."
"..The Varangians left a number of rune stones in their native Sweden that tell of their journeys to what is today Russia,
Ukraine, Greece, and Belarus"
"...Varangians were invited by East Slavs to rule over them and bring order..."
Kuid veel et...
"The staunchest advocate of the anti-Normanist views in the post-WWII period was Boris Rybakov, who argued that the cultural
level of the Varangians could not have warranted an invitation from the culturally advanced Slavs.,,,"
Sojaga kuulsaks saanud ...
"Photius says that
the attack took the Greeks completely by surprise, "like a thunderbolt from heaven."
Photius goes on to describe the Rus as a fierce and savage tribe of barbarian people, completely unknown and insignificant
until they became famous in this attack. Internal details in the account show that the Rus launched the attack down the
Dneiper, originating at Kiev. "
kuid laheb ponevaks
"...for some reason the Rus did not take the City.
The Greek sources attribute this to a miracle, brought about by the singing of hymns to the Virgin and a procession around
the City walls, led by the Patriarch, bearing the robe of the Virgin about the City, which apparently resulted in a huge
storm which scattered the Rus forces and saved the City. ..." Katy perry Dark hobene tuleb meelde...
Kuid yeah, igatahes, panen yhte texti kokku, kui vaid endal arvuti oleks... saaks kiiremini rahulikumalt tehtud...
Kuid yea,
siia korvae voiks panna veel .... mida meeles hoida.. selle pati karja korval kes noid maid
Estonia was settled near the end of the last glacial era, beginning from around 10 500 years ago..
Ancient Estonia worshipped the spirits of nature.
Shamanism has had a historically important influence on the mythologies of Siberian peoples, including the Finnic, Ugric,
Yeniseian, Turkic, Mongolic, Tungusic, and other northern Eurasia and Central Asian peoples. Central concepts in their
cosmologies is the myth that the world was created from an egg, myths about the Milky Way, ideas about the existence of the
World tree or pillar, and the idea that asterisms represent animal spirits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Muromian-map.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Early_Rus.png
Et jah... et nagu neid motteid, et kes need russid on ja kust tulid.... kes me oleme ... ja kes need on kes russide voimu all siiani sunniviisiliselt, sadu aastaid... systemaatiliselt segades ja maha surudes...
point, et nagu venemaa kui selline, on vaja vabastada temast endast, ei tasu ainult minna nukraks Ukraina ja Eesti jms vallutamiste parast.. on palju vaga meeldivaid inimesi kes nende ikkesse sattunud on kes neid sodima kutsus susides yhel ja teiselpool piiri, kasutades valesi ja provokatsioon - meethodid pole muutunud tuhandete aastate jooksul, lihtsalt yhest suunast tundub koik lihtsamaks lainud...
Kuid see sama asi mille labi nad meid katekoriseerida ja kontrollida pyyavad, need samad tehnoloogiad me kasutame nende enda paljastamiseks,... kohe kui ykskord prhavatab vimm ja moistus ja hellus samal ajal, siis teame mis teha..
meil mass meedia nyyd ju, wee ... : )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Muromian-map.png
24 March 2014 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Arge olge viirused ja soovige totrusi mis meist oodatud
Kumma iganes tee Ukraina valis oli sobiv nii nimetatud vene jaoks
Kuid neile vaga rohkem oleks sobinud kui oleks saanud riiki ja kultuuri ryystada taiel rinnal ja strateeligised kohad nagu arhiivid, raamatukogud ja moned head looduslikud kohad p6rmuks teha... avalikult.
(sest kui kuulid lendavad siis kes raamatutest hoolib.. voi maagiliste seente ja puude asukohtadest)
Praegu nii yelda rahulikul ajal nad seda teha ei saa ilma, et ka paris lambad aru ei saaks mis sigitistega tegu.
Umbes nagu Balti keti ajal... poleks olnud neil vaga sobiv pyssip2radega taguma hakata noid kes naeratades lillelises kelidis kasikaes lastega kaamerate saatel seisid...
( venemaad pole tegelt olemas, see umbe 1000 aastat tagasi Rus ehk siis norra-rootsi kriminaalsete joukude poolt vallutatud loodus ja shamaani rahavaste ala Maa inimeste havitamiseks, tulnukad ja zombi robotite kari rsk... Ja nagu ennustus laheb, nii nimetatud venemaast ei jaa rohkem jargi kui Kremli tornist naha on hea ilmaga, kuid see selleks. )
Kumma iganes tee Ukraina valis oli sobiv nii nimetatud vene jaoks
Kuid neile vaga rohkem oleks sobinud kui oleks saanud riiki ja kultuuri ryystada taiel rinnal ja strateeligised kohad nagu arhiivid, raamatukogud ja moned head looduslikud kohad p6rmuks teha... avalikult.
(sest kui kuulid lendavad siis kes raamatutest hoolib.. voi maagiliste seente ja puude asukohtadest)
Praegu nii yelda rahulikul ajal nad seda teha ei saa ilma, et ka paris lambad aru ei saaks mis sigitistega tegu.
Umbes nagu Balti keti ajal... poleks olnud neil vaga sobiv pyssip2radega taguma hakata noid kes naeratades lillelises kelidis kasikaes lastega kaamerate saatel seisid...
( venemaad pole tegelt olemas, see umbe 1000 aastat tagasi Rus ehk siis norra-rootsi kriminaalsete joukude poolt vallutatud loodus ja shamaani rahavaste ala Maa inimeste havitamiseks, tulnukad ja zombi robotite kari rsk... Ja nagu ennustus laheb, nii nimetatud venemaast ei jaa rohkem jargi kui Kremli tornist naha on hea ilmaga, kuid see selleks. )
23 March 2014 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's photo.
Vaga asjakohane pilt, koik kuidas maantee, asfalt..kirsad... ja peakohal puu ja koik muu (Y)
23 March 2014 19:03
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's photo.
Wou, ise klopsasid selle v?
Saada Igorile tervisi venna Georgi sobralt marguselt... et kui naed, vaga sooviks kyll tulla kuid praegu saarel kinni saada teade kui saad..
Saada Igorile tervisi venna Georgi sobralt marguselt... et kui naed, vaga sooviks kyll tulla kuid praegu saarel kinni saada teade kui saad..
23 March 2014 19:01
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
Teiseks, veelgi olulisem -
Motlesite ka, et vb viimane hakkas kartma mida koike need kohalikud teha saavad talle ja vottis oa elu hinnaga syydistuse tagasi ?
See vaga tavaline peale 2hvardusi ohvritel yelda mentidele, et nad ise motlesid asja valja....
olles mingi aleviku tydruk keda kohalikud k2ngid ahistavad kuidas iganes soovivad (rikkudes tulevast eesti beoloogilist ja psyholoogilist genofondi) ... et mis arvad kui palju voimalust toe osas need plikad saavad?
See, et mingid kutid paar aastat vangis on, ON nalja tegu yhe paris ahistamise juhtumi juures, vaike viga mida riik teha voib suurema heaolu niel, sest LIIGA raigelt lastakse kaituda naistega, selliselt, et religioosete reeglite jargi - kui ma puldis oleks, siis soovitaks neil meestel parem nende endi elu lopetada
Motlesite ka, et vb viimane hakkas kartma mida koike need kohalikud teha saavad talle ja vottis oa elu hinnaga syydistuse tagasi ?
See vaga tavaline peale 2hvardusi ohvritel yelda mentidele, et nad ise motlesid asja valja....
olles mingi aleviku tydruk keda kohalikud k2ngid ahistavad kuidas iganes soovivad (rikkudes tulevast eesti beoloogilist ja psyholoogilist genofondi) ... et mis arvad kui palju voimalust toe osas need plikad saavad?
See, et mingid kutid paar aastat vangis on, ON nalja tegu yhe paris ahistamise juhtumi juures, vaike viga mida riik teha voib suurema heaolu niel, sest LIIGA raigelt lastakse kaituda naistega, selliselt, et religioosete reeglite jargi - kui ma puldis oleks, siis soovitaks neil meestel parem nende endi elu lopetada
21 March 2014 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
pariselt nagu vaatate seda sellest nurgast, et " kui Tema valetunnistus oleks läbi läinud, oleks mitme süütu noormehe elu rikutud, ning nad oleks hulk aastaid vangis istunud" kolm oleksit yhes lauses,
- et nagu kui me nii tulised inimese kaitsjad siis nagu kuidas oleks nende tuhandete naiste perversne kuritarvitamine, iga aasta, Eestis kes ei julgegi politseisse minna, sest ENAMUS ei julge,
ja enamus haigeid perverte ja sadiste on ju vaga kaugel trellidest.
Kus oli lugu selle kohta MIKS ta seda lugu raakis, ja mis tegelased need olid, kas viisakad ontlikud syytukesed noormehed voi mingi lambi jommid voi kratid kes tydruku narvi ajasid millegagi?
Igavusest keegi midagi sellist eriti tihti ei tee eksole.
- et nagu kui me nii tulised inimese kaitsjad siis nagu kuidas oleks nende tuhandete naiste perversne kuritarvitamine, iga aasta, Eestis kes ei julgegi politseisse minna, sest ENAMUS ei julge,
ja enamus haigeid perverte ja sadiste on ju vaga kaugel trellidest.
Kus oli lugu selle kohta MIKS ta seda lugu raakis, ja mis tegelased need olid, kas viisakad ontlikud syytukesed noormehed voi mingi lambi jommid voi kratid kes tydruku narvi ajasid millegagi?
Igavusest keegi midagi sellist eriti tihti ei tee eksole.
21 March 2014 19:55
Margus Meigo commented on Hannah Aiyana's post.
Yes Hanna ? :)
Did.. you manage to get online backup for all your files ?
(adrive has 50 gig per free account but u can get payd dropbox or something, worth to invest for sure... ur work to valuable to let it go away (hardrive can broke anytime))
Did.. you manage to get online backup for all your files ?
(adrive has 50 gig per free account but u can get payd dropbox or something, worth to invest for sure... ur work to valuable to let it go away (hardrive can broke anytime))
20 March 2014 22:20
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
NU BBC siin ikka veel arutab, et ei tea kas asi legaalne voi mitte legaalne on... et umbes nagu mp3 mede alla laadimine netist.. .et paris hea vist ei ole kuid nagu ei teata mis legislationit kasutama peaks ja kas piisab ainult sellest kui kurjasi sonasi pressiteates raakida vene suhtes... hirmuaratavalt punane see meedia siin
20 March 2014 22:09
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's video.
aa jama mees
20 March 2014 21:59
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Lall's post.
Group: Arutleme vabalt
Aahahh siis,
"Küsimus legitiimsusest või mittelegitiimsusest pole nii tähtis. Peamine on, et inimesed tunneksid end hästi, oleksid rahul selle tulemustega," ... Kas Polised maa Ukrainlased ka inimeste alla kuuluvad?
Back on the Holodomor times was not but perhaps now times have changed...
While we do have Wiki...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Baltic_states
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_Soviet_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_the_Soviet_Union
http://www.refworld.org/docid/3ae6b31db3.html
..but.. on times like this... people just keep talking in web...
http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/zinnpeopleswar.html
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/03/17/pers-m17.html?view=article_mobile
http://rt.com/news/un-resolution-crimea-referendum-118/
http://www.angelfire.com/sc3/soviet_jews_exodus/English/POZ_s/POZ-46-1.shtml
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/pearl/www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/fdr.html
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/russia/su_glos.html
... but where we go ?
(srry yleliiksete linkide parast, olid kopis...)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Baltic_states
18 March 2014 22:42
Margus Meigo commented on Nana Kojo's link.
(Y) @sociallubricants
17 March 2014 21:58
Margus Meigo commented on Homejoy's link.
Usual household kichen sink cleaning mop is way dirtyer then household toilet seats in amount of pacteria and so on,... so yeah,
but yeah, perhaps this service is needed for the ones who need..
but yeah, perhaps this service is needed for the ones who need..
17 March 2014 21:57
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
What kind of greature was it ?
17 March 2014 21:36
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
lugesin alguses "Drugs Lee"
17 March 2014 21:35
Margus Meigo commented on Katrin Polevaja's link.
Vahva : )
Seda nagunii pidi mis iganes valitsus tegema, kuid hea, et teada antakse : )
Seda nagunii pidi mis iganes valitsus tegema, kuid hea, et teada antakse : )
17 March 2014 18:52
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Jones's photo.
" The EU in particular has already proposed Internet censorship under the guise of "protecting the children" and "fighting terrorism." ..."
How come alex jones in last 10 years, basically always talks something that is years, or even tens of years old common knowledge for interested ones ... as it would be some new strastic move
In whole, i hope, i better hope goc has so many copys ow all my actions and doings that me and my friends do not have to worry about some small minded manipulators to mix up some bits and pieces (literally, virtual and real life info) in to some kind of ... art on paper, that is called NewsPapers - as it would produce news or would inform people...
uhh.. luckilly soon EU and others will help to pass the law, that right words should be used in right places/times - eg. according to the word and sentences real meanings
sources to data where we can confirm all we need in any way possible with todays database and filtering tec to get most relevant data (confirmations) about subject we interested about (like is it true or how its true and why, how else same news can be expressed by other cultures and political views + people involved expected or confirmed views about happening and about view on world, what they have. Are they Human Person)
How come alex jones in last 10 years, basically always talks something that is years, or even tens of years old common knowledge for interested ones ... as it would be some new strastic move
In whole, i hope, i better hope goc has so many copys ow all my actions and doings that me and my friends do not have to worry about some small minded manipulators to mix up some bits and pieces (literally, virtual and real life info) in to some kind of ... art on paper, that is called NewsPapers - as it would produce news or would inform people...
uhh.. luckilly soon EU and others will help to pass the law, that right words should be used in right places/times - eg. according to the word and sentences real meanings
sources to data where we can confirm all we need in any way possible with todays database and filtering tec to get most relevant data (confirmations) about subject we interested about (like is it true or how its true and why, how else same news can be expressed by other cultures and political views + people involved expected or confirmed views about happening and about view on world, what they have. Are they Human Person)
17 March 2014 18:43
Margus Meigo commented on Meelis Mölter's photo.
tabasalu kylateedel arvan, et ikka mossega vennad voivad tuupi teha, et to jaab vaiksema kiva peale ohku seisma ju
kui just vaga ei lenda
kui just vaga ei lenda
17 March 2014 18:32
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
umbe sedasi:
Miks ma kooli pean minema?
Siis saad targaks!
A..nu jah siis, tanan ei.
Miks ma kooli pean minema?
Siis saad targaks!
A..nu jah siis, tanan ei.
17 March 2014 18:29
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
Mis head juhtus ?
Mis mottles, et ainult inimesed pole targad :D (+, motlesin, et tarkus vb ongi inimeste leiutis... sest meil endiselt peetakse targaks pool ajuinvaliide kes miskis osas midagi sai tehtud paremini voi suuremini kui teised kuid samal ajal koikide muude tarkadega kes teda targaks tunnistasid kokku ei suutnud panna adekvaatset plaaningi reaalseks ausaks inimkonna jatkuks)
Mis mottles, et ainult inimesed pole targad :D (+, motlesin, et tarkus vb ongi inimeste leiutis... sest meil endiselt peetakse targaks pool ajuinvaliide kes miskis osas midagi sai tehtud paremini voi suuremini kui teised kuid samal ajal koikide muude tarkadega kes teda targaks tunnistasid kokku ei suutnud panna adekvaatset plaaningi reaalseks ausaks inimkonna jatkuks)
17 March 2014 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
:D :D :D
17 March 2014 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Album aasast 1980
Urmas Alender -- laul
Peeter Volkonski -- laul
Peeter Määrits -- laul, heli
Ain Varts -- kitarr
Ivo Varts -- trummid
Riho Sibul -- kitarr
Peeter Malkov -- laul, flööt
Albert Trapeež -- poeesia
1. 00:00 Eila Veel
2. 03:35 Üks Sõna
3. 05:26 Veel Üks Linda
4. 08:52 Peniluubi Blues
5. 13:00 Mona-Lisa Naeratus
6. 15:25 Oo Kaunis Naine
7. 17:10 Võllalaul
8. 19:43 Pankrott
9. 22:40 Talvelaul
10. 24:50 Kiisulaul
11. 27:10 Punker
12. 31:07 Pankrannik
13. 34:10 Die Voche
14. 37:54 Helinälg
Urmas Alender -- laul
Peeter Volkonski -- laul
Peeter Määrits -- laul, heli
Ain Varts -- kitarr
Ivo Varts -- trummid
Riho Sibul -- kitarr
Peeter Malkov -- laul, flööt
Albert Trapeež -- poeesia
1. 00:00 Eila Veel
2. 03:35 Üks Sõna
3. 05:26 Veel Üks Linda
4. 08:52 Peniluubi Blues
5. 13:00 Mona-Lisa Naeratus
6. 15:25 Oo Kaunis Naine
7. 17:10 Võllalaul
8. 19:43 Pankrott
9. 22:40 Talvelaul
10. 24:50 Kiisulaul
11. 27:10 Punker
12. 31:07 Pankrannik
13. 34:10 Die Voche
14. 37:54 Helinälg
13 March 2014 18:30
Margus Meigo commented on Oomas Alt's post.
Hmm... : )
12 March 2014 22:34
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Read some Zen, Allan Watts .. - helps loads
12 March 2014 22:34
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
Wou!
12 March 2014 22:33
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
Ui Ui :)
12 March 2014 22:12
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
NU nii, mis paevakorras?
12 March 2014 22:11
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's photo.
Kuhu soidame :D
12 March 2014 21:57
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
Kena teid naha jalle : )
12 March 2014 21:52
Margus Meigo commented on Niels Groeneveld's post.
Group: Cybercrime & Cyberconflict Intelligence Group
I still think, its SO clear, that all this is fnord12 March 2014 21:50
Margus Meigo commented on Niels Groeneveld's post.
Group: Cybercrime & Cyberconflict Intelligence Group
ohh, just plans and only millions..
Thanks for letting us know, nsa : )12 March 2014 21:49
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's photo.
(Y)
12 March 2014 19:48
Margus Meigo commented on Nana Kojo's post.
true true, probabaly
12 March 2014 19:48
Margus Meigo commented on Tara Bell's post.
No seriously, if you wanna give me the details what you wanna do :D
12 March 2014 19:45
Margus Meigo commented on Nana Kojo's photo.
(Y)
12 March 2014 19:44
Margus Meigo commented on Nana Kojo's photo.
:D
12 March 2014 19:44
Margus Meigo commented on Stella Leima's post.
Mulle ka! :)
12 March 2014 19:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I think, She even does not to be, as She is the reason, why man needs religion
its a fact, (and if it is, perhaps we will get proof as well)
Christian-anarchismni
its a fact, (and if it is, perhaps we will get proof as well)
Christian-anarchismni
3 March 2014 22:32
Margus Meigo commented on Zhymo Valencia's photo.
This is pretty good picture of me
3 March 2014 20:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid 27.nda postituse peale, plaanis kirjutada oli lihtsalt " Nous-Nous..."
Eriti, kojutulekuga iseendas
( ja... jaa maailmas... jaa niii edasi... ikka edasi... kuni veel naha on kuhu minna ja, et vaja..)
Eriti, kojutulekuga iseendas
( ja... jaa maailmas... jaa niii edasi... ikka edasi... kuni veel naha on kuhu minna ja, et vaja..)
3 March 2014 20:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu jah, oigus jalle - ses suhtes, et kui ytled, ... u got the power ... (umm, laul ka mis korvus trummiporinal jookseb... )
kuid yea, et eks sul siis ikkagi ole oigus, ju tegelt teame,
Kuid isiklikult mulle ka, ikka alati oluline olnud mida Sa isiklikult raagid/motled -
Kuid noh, sellisel egoistlikult personaalsel moel..
kuid yea, et eks sul siis ikkagi ole oigus, ju tegelt teame,
Kuid isiklikult mulle ka, ikka alati oluline olnud mida Sa isiklikult raagid/motled -
Kuid noh, sellisel egoistlikult personaalsel moel..
3 March 2014 20:41
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's link.
mis mottes, Arvad, et me rahvus eksisteeriks kui Toompial aint sulid oleks?
1 March 2014 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Group: Eestlased Londonis / Estonians in London
Naised, saun?1 March 2014 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Group: Eestlased Londonis / Estonians in London
Yea, inimesed1 March 2014 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Aransiola's post.
Group: Eestlased Londonis / Estonians in London
https://www.facebook.com/groups/364076470395469/?fref=ts aga kui kanne tehtud vota kiirelt kullas valja , mxcadox jms uudised...Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
1 March 2014 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
science for sure : )
1 March 2014 16:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ammu on toimunud. enne meid
(nagu ytlesin varem juba ammu..)
Yldiselt (tulevikus) psyholoogilist ravi vajavad need, kes selliste teemade osas kursis pole ja psyhiaatri litsentsi kui sellist ei aintagi neile kes mottega ise ravitsemise ja muu maailma intelligentside olemasolu osas kahelda proovivad.
Aliens: main stream, here we come!
(nagu ytlesin varem juba ammu..)
Yldiselt (tulevikus) psyholoogilist ravi vajavad need, kes selliste teemade osas kursis pole ja psyhiaatri litsentsi kui sellist ei aintagi neile kes mottega ise ravitsemise ja muu maailma intelligentside olemasolu osas kahelda proovivad.
Aliens: main stream, here we come!
1 March 2014 16:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Raagi parem mis sest raamatust arvasin mis gDrives jagasin
1 March 2014 14:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.unification.net/ws/wsintr4.htm
http://www.unification.net/ws/wsintr4.htm
1 March 2014 14:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://angellucci.wordpress.com/2014/01/24/have-you-heard-of-the-great-forgetting-it-happened-10000-years-ago-completely-affects-your-life-by-deep-ecology-hub/
http://angellucci.wordpress.com/2014/01/24/have-you-heard-of-the-great-forgetting-it-happened-10000-years-ago-completely-affects-your-life-by-deep-ecology-hub/
1 March 2014 14:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
pretty interesting,
have to mention a bit something more, from media:
"What do Katy Perry and the Iranian media have in common? They both think Barack Obama is hiding the truth about space aliens. In a recent interview for GQ, singer Katy Perry explained:
“I see everything through a spiritual lens . . . I believe in a lot of astrology. I believe in aliens. . . . I look up into the stars and I imagine: How self-important are we to think that we are the only life-form? I mean, if my relationship with Obama gets any better, I’m going to ask him that question. It just hasn’t been appropriate yet.”
when the aliens finally reveal themselves they will either fulfill millennialist hopes of peace and enlightenment or else unleash Armageddon on humanity. Either way, quotidian reality as we know it will end when the alien revelation comes.
http://www.gospelherald.com/articles/50266/20140129/former-aspiring-gospel-singer-katy-perry-im-christian.htm
have to mention a bit something more, from media:
"What do Katy Perry and the Iranian media have in common? They both think Barack Obama is hiding the truth about space aliens. In a recent interview for GQ, singer Katy Perry explained:
“I see everything through a spiritual lens . . . I believe in a lot of astrology. I believe in aliens. . . . I look up into the stars and I imagine: How self-important are we to think that we are the only life-form? I mean, if my relationship with Obama gets any better, I’m going to ask him that question. It just hasn’t been appropriate yet.”
when the aliens finally reveal themselves they will either fulfill millennialist hopes of peace and enlightenment or else unleash Armageddon on humanity. Either way, quotidian reality as we know it will end when the alien revelation comes.
http://www.gospelherald.com/articles/50266/20140129/former-aspiring-gospel-singer-katy-perry-im-christian.htm
http://www.gospelherald.com/articles/50266/20140129/former-aspiring-gospel-singer-katy-perry-im-christian.htm
1 March 2014 13:59
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's link.
...jaa... just nod viimased, neil tuleb silma peal hoida ja paljastada.
( Nagu heas vanas raamatus raagitakse http://biblehub.com/ephesians/5-11.htm ..tegelt seal parem ytlus oli selle asja kohta, kuid kuidagi sealt otsimootorist ei leia seda praegu.. )
( Nagu heas vanas raamatus raagitakse http://biblehub.com/ephesians/5-11.htm ..tegelt seal parem ytlus oli selle asja kohta, kuid kuidagi sealt otsimootorist ei leia seda praegu.. )
http://biblehub.com/ephesians/5-11.htm
1 March 2014 13:49
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's link.
Loodetavasti oigel ajal ikka saame ka, ylemaailmselt tuntuks, et yldse olemas olime : )
1 March 2014 13:29
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's link.
ma ei moista, mis Eestis pole siis piisavalt rahakaid inimesi ja sopru SELLISEL Naisel, et kes iganes viriseb, sellele raha suu tais toppida viisakalt (sest ega SEE siis ei saa ju pohjus olla, millest jutt kaib) ja me kodu Naiselikkuse maailmale natuke abi ja tuge pakkuda EU Suur organisatsioonide esindajate eest,
Sellele naisele sobib klamuur ja ta vist seda ka teeninud rohkem kui paljud muud nautlejad,
( muidugi..., eks mida naine tegema peaks kui need Asjad ta ymber tuuakse, hakkama imelikuks ja muu olulisema asemel muid masinaid enda ymber noudma, ega raha on juba ju kulutatud... )
Sellele naisele sobib klamuur ja ta vist seda ka teeninud rohkem kui paljud muud nautlejad,
( muidugi..., eks mida naine tegema peaks kui need Asjad ta ymber tuuakse, hakkama imelikuks ja muu olulisema asemel muid masinaid enda ymber noudma, ega raha on juba ju kulutatud... )
1 March 2014 13:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
proovin olla,
((kodus)
((kodus)
1 March 2014 13:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
/me awww...
1 March 2014 13:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I think, that have had only one long distance call on it, so yeah.. why to even bother to carry it along a ower a year
28 February 2014 13:19
Margus Meigo commented on Devid Campani's post.
that, I hope to find out on time : )
28 February 2014 13:16
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
wou :D
27 February 2014 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ei nu tegelt ka , muiates seda motlesin seda suts lugedes : )
27 February 2014 15:25
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's photo.
selline lugu, et moni selle armee suhtes voib tunda, et tahab vastu minna ja tule tulekut peatada...
How do you plan to stop us?
Umm.. turn of the light?
Yeah, but u are made of light as well...
Umm.. in that case.. will take it lightly..
..yea did not think that one throught..
going to imtiminate your own source..
hmmm
How do you plan to stop us?
Umm.. turn of the light?
Yeah, but u are made of light as well...
Umm.. in that case.. will take it lightly..
..yea did not think that one throught..
going to imtiminate your own source..
hmmm
27 February 2014 15:15
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
ii tihti jepp
27 February 2014 15:03
Margus Meigo commented on Cat Bellm's photo.
Looks nice, almoust like shampoo advert white out shampoo,
27 February 2014 14:54
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Estonia Valsberg's photo.
Kas maailm juba ilus jaadavalt teil?
Mul endiselt siin veel palju tuska turjal mis tundub , et vajab korrastamist ja tegemist...
Mul endiselt siin veel palju tuska turjal mis tundub , et vajab korrastamist ja tegemist...
27 February 2014 14:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Good friends, fb friends, twitter fallowers and Valentinos Day
14 February 2014 23:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
More animals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLa_ryRjC7M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLa_ryRjC7M
13 February 2014 21:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"But baby, I been, I been prayin' hard (hey!)
Said no more counting dollars
We'll be, we'll be counting stars"
Happy beats top of the Coin times,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT_nvWreIhg
Lately I been, I been losing sleep
Dreaming about the things that we could be
But baby, I been, I been prayin' hard
Said no more counting dollars
We'll be counting stars
Yeah, we'll be counting stars
[Verse 1]
I see this life
Like a swinging vine
Swing my heart across the line
In my face is flashing signs
Seek it out and ye shall find
Old, but I'm not that old
Young, but I'm not that bold
And I don't think the world is sold
I'm just doing what we're told
I feel something so right
By doing the wrong thing
And I feel something so wrong
By doing the right thing
I couldn't lie, couldn't lie, couldn't lie
Everything that kills me makes me feel alive
[Chorus]
Lately I been, I been losing sleep (hey!)
Dreaming about the things that we could be
But baby, I been, I been prayin' hard (hey!)
Said no more counting dollars
We'll be counting stars
Lately I been, I been losing sleep (hey!)
Dreaming about the things that we could be
But baby, I been, I been prayin' hard (hey!)
Said no more counting dollars
We'll be, we'll be counting stars
[Verse 2]
I feel the love
And I feel it burn
Down this river every turn
Hope is our four letter word
Make that money
Watch it burn
Old, but I'm not that old
Young, but I'm not that bold
And I don't think the world is sold
I'm just doing what we're told
And I feel something so wrong
By doing the right thing
I couldn't lie, couldn't lie, couldn't lie
Everything that drowns me makes me wanna fly
[Chorus]
Lately I been, I been losing sleep (hey!)
Dreaming about the things that we could be
But baby, I been, I been prayin' hard
Said no more counting dollars
We'll be counting stars
Lately I been, I been losing sleep (hey!)
Dreaming about the things that we could be
But baby, I been, I been prayin' hard (hey!)
Said no more counting dollars
We'll be, we'll be counting stars
Oh, oh, oh.
[Bridge 4x:]
Take that money
Watch it burn
Sing in the river
The lessons I learned
Everything that kills me makes me feel alive
[Chorus]
Lately I been, I been losing sleep (hey!)
Dreaming about the things that we could be
But baby, I been, I been prayin' hard (hey!)
Said no more counting dollars
We'll be counting stars
Lately I been, I been losing sleep
Dreaming about the things that we could be
But baby, I been, I been prayin' hard
Said no more counting dollars
We'll be, we'll be counting stars
[Outro 4x:]
Take that money
Watch it burn
Sing in the river
The lessons I learned ...
Well, lets hope i did L: )
Said no more counting dollars
We'll be, we'll be counting stars"
Happy beats top of the Coin times,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT_nvWreIhg
Lately I been, I been losing sleep
Dreaming about the things that we could be
But baby, I been, I been prayin' hard
Said no more counting dollars
We'll be counting stars
Yeah, we'll be counting stars
[Verse 1]
I see this life
Like a swinging vine
Swing my heart across the line
In my face is flashing signs
Seek it out and ye shall find
Old, but I'm not that old
Young, but I'm not that bold
And I don't think the world is sold
I'm just doing what we're told
I feel something so right
By doing the wrong thing
And I feel something so wrong
By doing the right thing
I couldn't lie, couldn't lie, couldn't lie
Everything that kills me makes me feel alive
[Chorus]
Lately I been, I been losing sleep (hey!)
Dreaming about the things that we could be
But baby, I been, I been prayin' hard (hey!)
Said no more counting dollars
We'll be counting stars
Lately I been, I been losing sleep (hey!)
Dreaming about the things that we could be
But baby, I been, I been prayin' hard (hey!)
Said no more counting dollars
We'll be, we'll be counting stars
[Verse 2]
I feel the love
And I feel it burn
Down this river every turn
Hope is our four letter word
Make that money
Watch it burn
Old, but I'm not that old
Young, but I'm not that bold
And I don't think the world is sold
I'm just doing what we're told
And I feel something so wrong
By doing the right thing
I couldn't lie, couldn't lie, couldn't lie
Everything that drowns me makes me wanna fly
[Chorus]
Lately I been, I been losing sleep (hey!)
Dreaming about the things that we could be
But baby, I been, I been prayin' hard
Said no more counting dollars
We'll be counting stars
Lately I been, I been losing sleep (hey!)
Dreaming about the things that we could be
But baby, I been, I been prayin' hard (hey!)
Said no more counting dollars
We'll be, we'll be counting stars
Oh, oh, oh.
[Bridge 4x:]
Take that money
Watch it burn
Sing in the river
The lessons I learned
Everything that kills me makes me feel alive
[Chorus]
Lately I been, I been losing sleep (hey!)
Dreaming about the things that we could be
But baby, I been, I been prayin' hard (hey!)
Said no more counting dollars
We'll be counting stars
Lately I been, I been losing sleep
Dreaming about the things that we could be
But baby, I been, I been prayin' hard
Said no more counting dollars
We'll be, we'll be counting stars
[Outro 4x:]
Take that money
Watch it burn
Sing in the river
The lessons I learned ...
Well, lets hope i did L: )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT_nvWreIhg
13 February 2014 21:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"You know, we are in each-others team"
"But we live in city's..."
after a while, you start to look the lyrics in wall over a years and see that you can climb up from the meanings
or at least can see way how We can
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2JuxM-snGc
Wait 'til you’re announced
We’ve not yet lost all our graces
The hounds will stay in chains
Look upon your greatness
That you’ll send the call out
(Send the call out [15x])
Call all the ladies out
They’re in their finery
A hundred jewels on throats
A hundred jewels between teeth
Now bring my boys in
Their skin in craters like the moon
The moon we love like a brother, while he glows through the room
Dancin' around the lies we tell
Dancin' around big eyes as well
Even the comatose they don’t dance and tell
[Chorus]
We live in cities you'll never see on screen
Not very pretty, but we sure know how to run things
Living in ruins of a palace within my dreams
And you know, we're on each other's team
I'm kind of over getting told to throw my hands up in the air, so there
So all the cups got broke shards beneath our feet but it wasn’t my fault
And everyone’s competing for a love they won't receive
'Cause what this palace wants is release
[Chorus]
We live in cities you'll never see on screen
Not very pretty, but we sure know how to run things
Living in ruins of a palace within my dreams
And you know, we're on each other's team
I’m kind of over getting told to throw my hands up in the air
So there
I’m kinda older than I was when I revelled without a care
So there
[Chorus]
We live in cities you'll never see on screen
Not very pretty, but we sure know how to run things
Living in ruins of a palace within my dreams
And you know, we're on each other's team
We're on each other's team
And you know, we're on each other's team
We're on each other's team
And you know, and you know, and you know
"But we live in city's..."
after a while, you start to look the lyrics in wall over a years and see that you can climb up from the meanings
or at least can see way how We can
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2JuxM-snGc
Wait 'til you’re announced
We’ve not yet lost all our graces
The hounds will stay in chains
Look upon your greatness
That you’ll send the call out
(Send the call out [15x])
Call all the ladies out
They’re in their finery
A hundred jewels on throats
A hundred jewels between teeth
Now bring my boys in
Their skin in craters like the moon
The moon we love like a brother, while he glows through the room
Dancin' around the lies we tell
Dancin' around big eyes as well
Even the comatose they don’t dance and tell
[Chorus]
We live in cities you'll never see on screen
Not very pretty, but we sure know how to run things
Living in ruins of a palace within my dreams
And you know, we're on each other's team
I'm kind of over getting told to throw my hands up in the air, so there
So all the cups got broke shards beneath our feet but it wasn’t my fault
And everyone’s competing for a love they won't receive
'Cause what this palace wants is release
[Chorus]
We live in cities you'll never see on screen
Not very pretty, but we sure know how to run things
Living in ruins of a palace within my dreams
And you know, we're on each other's team
I’m kind of over getting told to throw my hands up in the air
So there
I’m kinda older than I was when I revelled without a care
So there
[Chorus]
We live in cities you'll never see on screen
Not very pretty, but we sure know how to run things
Living in ruins of a palace within my dreams
And you know, we're on each other's team
We're on each other's team
And you know, we're on each other's team
We're on each other's team
And you know, and you know, and you know
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2JuxM-snGc
13 February 2014 21:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"We crave a different kind of buzz. Let me be your ruler (ruler),"
"My friends and I—we've cracked the code."
I've never seen a diamond in the flesh
I cut my teeth on wedding rings in the movies
And I'm not proud of my address,
In a torn-up town, no postcode / ensv :) /
But every song's like gold teeth, grey goose, trippin' in the bathroom
Blood stains, ball gowns, trashin' the hotel room,
We don't care, we're driving Cadillacs in our dreams.
But everybody's like Cristal, Maybach, diamonds on your timepiece.
Jet planes, islands, tigers on a gold leash.
We don't care, we aren't caught up in your love affair.
And we'll never be royals (royals).
It don't run in our blood,
That kind of luxe just ain't for us.
We crave a different kind of buzz.
Let me be your ruler (ruler),
You can call me queen Bee
And baby I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule.
Let me live that fantasy.
[Verse 2]
My friends and I—we've cracked the code.
We count our dollars on the train to the party.
And everyone who knows us knows that we're fine with this,
We didn't come from money.
But every song's like gold teeth, grey goose, trippin' in the bathroom.
Blood stains, ball gowns, trashin' the hotel room,
We don't care, we're driving Cadillacs in our dreams.
But everybody's like Cristal, Maybach, diamonds on your timepiece.
Jet planes, islands, tigers on a gold leash
We don't care, we aren't caught up in your love affair
And we'll never be royals (royals).
It don't run in our blood
That kind of luxe just ain't for us.
We crave a different kind of buzz.
Let me be your ruler (ruler),
You can call me queen Bee
And baby I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule.
Let me live that fantasy.
Ooh ooh oh
We're bigger than we ever dreamed,
And I'm in love with being queen.
Ooh ooh oh
Life is great without a care
We aren't caught up in your love affair.
And we'll never be royals (royals).
It don't run in our blood
That kind of luxe just ain't for us.
We crave a different kind of buzz
Let me be your ruler (ruler),
You can call me queen Bee
And baby I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule.
Let me live that fantasy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlcIKh6sBtc
"My friends and I—we've cracked the code."
I've never seen a diamond in the flesh
I cut my teeth on wedding rings in the movies
And I'm not proud of my address,
In a torn-up town, no postcode / ensv :) /
But every song's like gold teeth, grey goose, trippin' in the bathroom
Blood stains, ball gowns, trashin' the hotel room,
We don't care, we're driving Cadillacs in our dreams.
But everybody's like Cristal, Maybach, diamonds on your timepiece.
Jet planes, islands, tigers on a gold leash.
We don't care, we aren't caught up in your love affair.
And we'll never be royals (royals).
It don't run in our blood,
That kind of luxe just ain't for us.
We crave a different kind of buzz.
Let me be your ruler (ruler),
You can call me queen Bee
And baby I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule.
Let me live that fantasy.
[Verse 2]
My friends and I—we've cracked the code.
We count our dollars on the train to the party.
And everyone who knows us knows that we're fine with this,
We didn't come from money.
But every song's like gold teeth, grey goose, trippin' in the bathroom.
Blood stains, ball gowns, trashin' the hotel room,
We don't care, we're driving Cadillacs in our dreams.
But everybody's like Cristal, Maybach, diamonds on your timepiece.
Jet planes, islands, tigers on a gold leash
We don't care, we aren't caught up in your love affair
And we'll never be royals (royals).
It don't run in our blood
That kind of luxe just ain't for us.
We crave a different kind of buzz.
Let me be your ruler (ruler),
You can call me queen Bee
And baby I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule.
Let me live that fantasy.
Ooh ooh oh
We're bigger than we ever dreamed,
And I'm in love with being queen.
Ooh ooh oh
Life is great without a care
We aren't caught up in your love affair.
And we'll never be royals (royals).
It don't run in our blood
That kind of luxe just ain't for us.
We crave a different kind of buzz
Let me be your ruler (ruler),
You can call me queen Bee
And baby I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule.
Let me live that fantasy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlcIKh6sBtc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlcIKh6sBtc
13 February 2014 21:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://uk.raelians.org/
http://io9.com/5860418/meet-the-raelians-inside-the-worlds-strangest--and-nicest--ufo-sex-clone-religion
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/r12.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Vorilhon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism
http://io9.com/5860418/meet-the-raelians-inside-the-worlds-strangest--and-nicest--ufo-sex-clone-religion
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/r12.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Vorilhon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism
13 February 2014 19:29
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=trueview-instream&v=kOjNcZvwjxI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=trueview-instream&v=kOjNcZvwjxI
12 February 2014 22:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://newsle.com/Waffa We gotta power to use, what we got! For All
http://newsle.com/Waffa
12 February 2014 20:36
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
who are "peaceful antifascists" ?
12 February 2014 20:33
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Thanks tom!
12 February 2014 20:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
because.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N-to-BZP4I
no point to blame side that can bring life and .... that if we do not want, Life
As, we are Hers
no point to blame side that can bring life and .... that if we do not want, Life
As, we are Hers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N-to-BZP4I
12 February 2014 03:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
yeah
they was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0bh6VYkDp0 (sorry man, but perhaps it was man, lets not blame other important side before hand..)
they was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0bh6VYkDp0 (sorry man, but perhaps it was man, lets not blame other important side before hand..)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0bh6VYkDp0
12 February 2014 03:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
seriously thought, have not seen this video my self jet
but thought would be great girl to risk with putting anything out from here what comes, should be kind of like Kate Bush effect... with levels of sureness in difference of performance(as well in levels of thought ...)
Laurie Colson
but thought would be great girl to risk with putting anything out from here what comes, should be kind of like Kate Bush effect... with levels of sureness in difference of performance(as well in levels of thought ...)
Laurie Colson
12 February 2014 02:50
Margus Meigo commented on Joe Gysin's photo.
Who, this name means well,
your city has few times more people then in my country .. but yea, great sisters
http://www.tadias.com/12/04/2013/dc-addis-to-become-sister-cities/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addis_Ababa#Sister_cities
your city has few times more people then in my country .. but yea, great sisters
http://www.tadias.com/12/04/2013/dc-addis-to-become-sister-cities/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addis_Ababa#Sister_cities
http://www.tadias.com/12/04/2013/dc-addis-to-become-sister-cities/
11 February 2014 20:54
Margus Meigo commented on Joe Gysin's photo.
(Y)
Ethiopia (minus 5 star) and Lithuania colors
Ethiopia (minus 5 star) and Lithuania colors
11 February 2014 20:33
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UWaFAcydV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UWaFAcydV8
10 February 2014 23:38
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bujr9rzWGUY kuidas see u ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bujr9rzWGUY
10 February 2014 23:23
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
right on brother
10 February 2014 23:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
more mad 80s,
Oingo Boingo - Little Girls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA
Oingo Boingo - Little Girls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA
10 February 2014 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Soft Cell Sex Dwarf (banned Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39NHW8V-WEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39NHW8V-WEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39NHW8V-WEk
10 February 2014 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
same as before, just need to get charger
10 February 2014 16:39
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
get soul in to it, good one
10 February 2014 16:12
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
something like that..
10 February 2014 16:01
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
Q: So you have extra when you wash one, u know - like socks
A: No, got no xtra, try to keep my bag slick and minimum what needed
A: No, got no xtra, try to keep my bag slick and minimum what needed
10 February 2014 16:01
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's link.
i told you so, we gotta go dancing U Little asian Berry :p
10 February 2014 15:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
so what was this Showman guy on about, revealing what ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance#European_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance#European_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance#European_Union
8 February 2014 20:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.unodc.org/documents/organized-crime/Law-Enforcement/Electronic_surveillance.pdf
8 February 2014 20:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.ccbe.eu/fileadmin/user_upload/NTCdocument/EN_14142013_CCBE_Sta1_1382086457.pdf
8 February 2014 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.cepprobation.org/uploaded_files/pres%20EM%2007%20lilly.pdf
8 February 2014 18:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The many lyrics of David haircut...
http://www.rsrevision.com/hallelujah.htm
http://www.rsrevision.com/hallelujah.htm
http://www.rsrevision.com/hallelujah.htm
8 February 2014 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
But She is the Space, so who sings to Who really, go figure..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7UeW6Tq9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7UeW6Tq9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7UeW6Tq9Q
8 February 2014 18:08
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's post.
Kuid mis ta siis tegi ?
(kui arvesse votta, et see avalik seadus yle 10a tagasi oli, et koikide valgete inimeste info tuleb salvestada ja jalgida)
(kui arvesse votta, et see avalik seadus yle 10a tagasi oli, et koikide valgete inimeste info tuleb salvestada ja jalgida)
8 February 2014 14:02
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's post.
Nalja teed voi, mis tuleviku ajas Sa elad? VAGA suur osa meestest sellel planeedil endiselt noustus 2000a, et kohustusliku psyhiaatri/hinge ravi ei vaja need kes agresiivset era voi sojav2e elu toetavad.
Oiget juttu muidu raagid aga suts yle parda laks siin numbritega.
Sojav2gede numbrid:
Molemad Koread kokku umbe 15 millionit sodurit, Hiinal 7, Vietnam 5, India 5, Bangladesh 4, Venemaa, Iraaan ja USA veel kokku 10millionit umbes. Veel moned riigid ja umbe 50 millionit inimest juba koos kellest suurem osa on valmis ennast tapma ja teisi. Lampi enamasti - vastavalt k2sule.
Nad mitte ei pane ainult enda elu vaid ka teiste elu kaalule
0.01 % mis sa arvasid tume olevat, on 700 000, suur number ikkagi kuid -Filipiini sojavagi on juba yksiti suurem kui see number.
---
Need numbrid aga lihtsalt sojamasina kohta, kujutad ette kui halb see % oleks, kui arvesse votta iga naisega halvasti k2ituja, baaris kakleja ja saikopaadid koos pervertidega? Kellest planeet kubiseb.
Suurem osa neis teiste ja enda elu kaalule paneb nagu nalja. Kuna polda religioone siis ei moisteta ka elu suuruse olulisust.
Muidugi peaks sinna otsa veel lisama koikide inimkahju tootjad ja rampsu ostvad kliendid,
ja koige lopuks tuleks veel juurde panna paljud suitsetajad, joojad, kurjad inimesed jms kes hingeliselt inimkonda alla veavad. Surma sisse.
Koige loppu lisaks veel 3 miljardit uskliku kes kui Aeg tuleb ilma probleemit oma usu jargi oma elu peaks ohverdama vastavalt sellele mis tema kohalik usuvool ytleb.
Koik need kolm suurgruppi ( Sojavaega seotud, Halbade toodete tootjad koos kasutajatega ja religioosed inimesed ) - nod tegelevad enese ja teiste ohverdustega erinevatel aegadel vastavalt vajadusele. Moned neist isegi ei pea universumi kaalule panema, piisab kadedusest voi Naiselikkuse maailma moistmatusest, elukallale kippumiseks.
Oiget juttu muidu raagid aga suts yle parda laks siin numbritega.
Sojav2gede numbrid:
Molemad Koread kokku umbe 15 millionit sodurit, Hiinal 7, Vietnam 5, India 5, Bangladesh 4, Venemaa, Iraaan ja USA veel kokku 10millionit umbes. Veel moned riigid ja umbe 50 millionit inimest juba koos kellest suurem osa on valmis ennast tapma ja teisi. Lampi enamasti - vastavalt k2sule.
Nad mitte ei pane ainult enda elu vaid ka teiste elu kaalule
0.01 % mis sa arvasid tume olevat, on 700 000, suur number ikkagi kuid -Filipiini sojavagi on juba yksiti suurem kui see number.
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Need numbrid aga lihtsalt sojamasina kohta, kujutad ette kui halb see % oleks, kui arvesse votta iga naisega halvasti k2ituja, baaris kakleja ja saikopaadid koos pervertidega? Kellest planeet kubiseb.
Suurem osa neis teiste ja enda elu kaalule paneb nagu nalja. Kuna polda religioone siis ei moisteta ka elu suuruse olulisust.
Muidugi peaks sinna otsa veel lisama koikide inimkahju tootjad ja rampsu ostvad kliendid,
ja koige lopuks tuleks veel juurde panna paljud suitsetajad, joojad, kurjad inimesed jms kes hingeliselt inimkonda alla veavad. Surma sisse.
Koige loppu lisaks veel 3 miljardit uskliku kes kui Aeg tuleb ilma probleemit oma usu jargi oma elu peaks ohverdama vastavalt sellele mis tema kohalik usuvool ytleb.
Koik need kolm suurgruppi ( Sojavaega seotud, Halbade toodete tootjad koos kasutajatega ja religioosed inimesed ) - nod tegelevad enese ja teiste ohverdustega erinevatel aegadel vastavalt vajadusele. Moned neist isegi ei pea universumi kaalule panema, piisab kadedusest voi Naiselikkuse maailma moistmatusest, elukallale kippumiseks.
8 February 2014 14:01
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's post.
Nu jah, ma oleks vast kogu ligipaasu wikiks ja sotsiaal-vorgustikuks pyyranud :D ...
tuleviku tulevikus vast nagunii, igayks saab oma infole ligi mis kogutud ta kohta on - see saab olema normaalne oigus Inimestel
Lootus jaab
tuleviku tulevikus vast nagunii, igayks saab oma infole ligi mis kogutud ta kohta on - see saab olema normaalne oigus Inimestel
Lootus jaab
7 February 2014 19:29
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's post.
Mis ta tegi siis ?
7 February 2014 19:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Jaanus, mis arvad?
7 February 2014 17:25
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's post.
Sest EU ja mitmete org basic seadus yle 10 aasta oli ju, avalik, et KOIKIDE inimeste data smsidest emailideni PEAB olema salvestatud koikidel, kui maletan oigesti vanu pabereid lugedes
Seega, mis iganes juhtus aluspinnaks tuleb votta, et koik mis arvutiga seotud on on suure toenaosusega seaduslikult AMMU juba avalik domeen ja saladusi arvutites ei eksisteeri. Eriti.
Lisaks loogiline on, et need kel raha ja voimu kasutavad koiksugu cookisi, online appe ja litsentse millele me "agree" vajutame info mass databaaside loomiseks meie kaitumise uurimiseks ja reguleerimiseks erinevate korgete, Enamasti mitte kriminaalsete organisatsioonide poolt (nagu S6javagi, kuid noh - nad suht osati voib ka kriminaalide alla liigitada osalpool piiri moneti..vist..)
Siis loogiline on ka veel, et suur hulk paris kriminaale, hakkereid ja raha tegijaid kaustavad neid asju millele ligi saab paaseda turvaaukude ja raha kaudu (ostad ara tarkvara voi lehe kellel info, ja lingid infoga teises baasis olevaga..)
... ja kui see koik on tavaline, see Enne paranoiat, lihtsalt elementaarne, et nii on ja on normaalne ka tegelt, et on - ei midagi enne kuulmatut Selliste teadvuste poolt (pigem vaatama peaksime kuidas neid aidata saaksime, joudmisel arusaamadele...)
ja kas mitte NSA pold maakera piires organisatsioon kes juba enne WWWd seda rasket tyyd tegema pidi, koikidega kellega voimalik?
Et mis on need saladused mida Snowden valja raakis mis on paanikat tekitavad ja enne kuulmatud ? Midagi mis pole tavaparane yks osa organisatsioonide tyyst millest ta raakis ?
Tahaks, et keegi korra selle asja mulle ara seletaks
Seega, mis iganes juhtus aluspinnaks tuleb votta, et koik mis arvutiga seotud on on suure toenaosusega seaduslikult AMMU juba avalik domeen ja saladusi arvutites ei eksisteeri. Eriti.
Lisaks loogiline on, et need kel raha ja voimu kasutavad koiksugu cookisi, online appe ja litsentse millele me "agree" vajutame info mass databaaside loomiseks meie kaitumise uurimiseks ja reguleerimiseks erinevate korgete, Enamasti mitte kriminaalsete organisatsioonide poolt (nagu S6javagi, kuid noh - nad suht osati voib ka kriminaalide alla liigitada osalpool piiri moneti..vist..)
Siis loogiline on ka veel, et suur hulk paris kriminaale, hakkereid ja raha tegijaid kaustavad neid asju millele ligi saab paaseda turvaaukude ja raha kaudu (ostad ara tarkvara voi lehe kellel info, ja lingid infoga teises baasis olevaga..)
... ja kui see koik on tavaline, see Enne paranoiat, lihtsalt elementaarne, et nii on ja on normaalne ka tegelt, et on - ei midagi enne kuulmatut Selliste teadvuste poolt (pigem vaatama peaksime kuidas neid aidata saaksime, joudmisel arusaamadele...)
ja kas mitte NSA pold maakera piires organisatsioon kes juba enne WWWd seda rasket tyyd tegema pidi, koikidega kellega voimalik?
Et mis on need saladused mida Snowden valja raakis mis on paanikat tekitavad ja enne kuulmatud ? Midagi mis pole tavaparane yks osa organisatsioonide tyyst millest ta raakis ?
Tahaks, et keegi korra selle asja mulle ara seletaks
6 February 2014 19:38
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Orgusaar's post.
Oot mis see revulutsiooniline asi oligi mida see vend paljastas?
(ei saa sonumis vastata sulle sest sonumi saatmise funktsioon valja keeratud mul..fb poolt ajutiselt)
(ei saa sonumis vastata sulle sest sonumi saatmise funktsioon valja keeratud mul..fb poolt ajutiselt)
6 February 2014 19:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yeah.. this was strange, to nick my newspaper outlines while me on bathroom .. hmm.. hope they got smarter :D
..or me
..or me
6 February 2014 19:09
Margus Meigo commented on One Love Get Real's post.
Well, i do : )
6 February 2014 16:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
COmment from guy: "THis information should not be avalable for womens... they not ready jet.."
More from her, from Zen to Vampires
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Manuela-Dunn-Mascetti/e/B001IR3CD6
http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/261609.Manuela_Dunn_Mascetti
More from her, from Zen to Vampires
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Manuela-Dunn-Mascetti/e/B001IR3CD6
http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/261609.Manuela_Dunn_Mascetti
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Manuela-Dunn-Mascetti/e/B001IR3CD6
5 February 2014 22:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://followingworldchange.wordpress.com/2013/07/28/kiri-campbell-calling-out-for-help-please/
http://followingworldchange.wordpress.com/2013/07/28/kiri-campbell-calling-out-for-help-please/
5 February 2014 22:08
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
mulle aga ei meeldi kuidas inimesed kasutavad seda V sona....
see paha meelte programeerimine ju... ju... ju...
see paha meelte programeerimine ju... ju... ju...
5 February 2014 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Energiat kullake
5 February 2014 20:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Good, that someone likes this idea
4 February 2014 21:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
even thought, to make, add there where is needed seems righter idea
4 February 2014 19:50
Margus Meigo commented on Wizzy Divine Wisdom's post.
Cooking ? : )
4 February 2014 19:17
Margus Meigo commented on Stella Leima's post.
okey, maybe its good after all
4 February 2014 18:03
Margus Meigo commented on Stella Leima's post.
be careful what u wish for
4 February 2014 18:03
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Good one:D
4 February 2014 18:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Vahva Tydrik
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=429426207092652&set=a.332953230073284.67808.100000758282830&type=1&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=429426207092652&set=a.332953230073284.67808.100000758282830&type=1&theater
4 February 2014 16:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kisses back to piggy : )
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=512591515442787&set=t.687738482&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=512591515442787&set=t.687738482&type=3&theater
4 February 2014 16:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Hobese Care
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=517276964974242&set=t.687738482&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=517276964974242&set=t.687738482&type=3&theater
4 February 2014 16:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Real Life
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=517280528307219&set=t.687738482&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=517280528307219&set=t.687738482&type=3&theater
4 February 2014 16:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Nature Once More
https://www.facebook.com/hallokosmos/photos/t.687738482/562439003806716/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/hallokosmos/photos/t.687738482/562439003806716/?type=3&theater
4 February 2014 16:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Everyday :)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151413518113483&set=t.687738482&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151413518113483&set=t.687738482&type=3&theater
4 February 2014 16:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Meedia
https://www.facebook.com/202646209763065/photos/t.687738482/788586261169054/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/202646209763065/photos/t.687738482/788586261169054/?type=3&theater
4 February 2014 16:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
KitseTall
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=543962165639055&set=t.687738482&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=543962165639055&set=t.687738482&type=3&theater
4 February 2014 16:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
LoodusLaps
https://www.facebook.com/202646209763065/photos/t.687738482/790166501011030/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/202646209763065/photos/t.687738482/790166501011030/?type=3&theater
4 February 2014 16:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
SaunaHaldjas
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150842413406971&set=t.687738482&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150842413406971&set=t.687738482&type=3&theater
4 February 2014 16:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
meil sellised naised eestis kes ounamahla ja mereveepeal, ohust ja armastusest elavad ja ma konutan londoni tanavatel ja magan keldris, whaat
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=512591335442805&set=t.687738482&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=512591335442805&set=t.687738482&type=3&theater
4 February 2014 16:17
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
why should we keep these humans to who we provide clear option to get better but they choose not to be interested?
... only thing me have to remember now.. was me in some aria same when smaller? or for sure would have done better if right care would have provided?
Or
there is up to now still the impossible OR left, what can not have, for now any knowing, what If ("what if to get there all that was needed" - so "how is not needed for them")
... only thing me have to remember now.. was me in some aria same when smaller? or for sure would have done better if right care would have provided?
Or
there is up to now still the impossible OR left, what can not have, for now any knowing, what If ("what if to get there all that was needed" - so "how is not needed for them")
4 February 2014 16:06
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
4 February 2014 15:59
Margus Meigo commented on Carolyn Trei's post.
Group: Tutvus
Seda juttu peaks puhuma ornalt ja soojalt selle neiu armsasse korva, siis kui neiule meeldib..
ja ei mingit surevt lisama siis kui muud vaja
kasvoi kylma dussi, vota vastu mis yeldakse
Naiselt3 February 2014 17:17
Margus Meigo commented on Venno Kallis's post.
Group: Beebilõust-Lõust
See hea kova laul, suht tase mitmes eri mottes korraga3 February 2014 16:03
Margus Meigo commented on Venno Kallis's post.
Group: Beebilõust-Lõust
Haa, peaks madisega hangima, ta suht huvitav ja muud moodi tegelane paris elus, siin :)3 February 2014 16:03
Margus Meigo commented on Uku Arop's post.
Group: Arop aka Suur Papa Support
Peaks vaatama mis teema on sellega...3 February 2014 15:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
@ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20129580 - pretty normal actually
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20129580
1 February 2014 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
chill nyyd
1 February 2014 20:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
timm
1 February 2014 20:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(proovime kalaviga sauna leida, hui leiame nagu, )
1 February 2014 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Central Spa
centralspa.info/
Central Spa is the hottest place where men meet men. ... Whether you are gay, bi-sexual, straight, questioning, or just plain horny... it doesn't matter to us or the "
What a , does not matter __!
...strange world anyway
centralspa.info/
Central Spa is the hottest place where men meet men. ... Whether you are gay, bi-sexual, straight, questioning, or just plain horny... it doesn't matter to us or the "
What a , does not matter __!
...strange world anyway
1 February 2014 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
wou, kingsyse bed
29 January 2014 11:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70t22lwSKGQ&list=PL66A572EAAE941F40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70t22lwSKGQ&list=PL66A572EAAE941F40
29 January 2014 10:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcjLcnRjdpw&list=PL66A572EAAE941F40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcjLcnRjdpw&list=PL66A572EAAE941F40
29 January 2014 10:36
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
can relate to that, but no worries .. they do not really miss
29 January 2014 08:20
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
Husband , 情人
29 January 2014 08:18
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's photo.
in England ?
29 January 2014 08:16
Margus Meigo commented on Patric Ryan's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
thatch from where the gay pride comes from probably29 January 2014 08:04
Margus Meigo commented on Patric Ryan's post.
Group: ★ ALL UFO AND ALIENS GROUPS ON FACEBOOK ★
perhaps, they should
After all, they might know better who made, Us29 January 2014 08:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Bitcoin
Will upload videos soon, to reply here as well.
Anyone from here was here?
http://www.meetup.com/London-bitcoin-meetup/events/162309592/http://www.meetup.com/London-bitcoin-meetup/events/162309592/
29 January 2014 07:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Bitcoin
u could29 January 2014 07:54
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's link.
probabaly
29 January 2014 07:53
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
selline madratsimaterjal kuluks endalegi ara
28 January 2014 14:26
Margus Meigo commented on John Bush's post.
Group: Bitcoin
http://www.scribd.com/doc/202572639/Faiella-Robert-M-and-Charlie-Shrem-Complaint
http://www.businessinsider.com/report-ceo-of-major-bitcoin-exchange-arrested-2014-1
Some extra talk about ithttp://www.scribd.com/doc/202572639/Faiella-Robert-M-and-Charlie-Shrem-Complaint
27 January 2014 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Muidugi meie enda vanad laulumehed juba suurema osa ammu viisidesse pannud mida teada vaja,
27 January 2014 19:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Tahaks loota kyll, me lauljad vaga arkvel tegelt.
vahest moelnud ka, et me inimesed ise ole suutorud selleks milleks vaja - piisab ainult heast sydamest ja me labi lauldakse seda laulu neile kellel vaja, kuid yeah... hoopis muu pilguga juba ammu pop lauljaid vaata hakanud. GaGa on hea naide, paris karme asju naitab vahest
vahest moelnud ka, et me inimesed ise ole suutorud selleks milleks vaja - piisab ainult heast sydamest ja me labi lauldakse seda laulu neile kellel vaja, kuid yeah... hoopis muu pilguga juba ammu pop lauljaid vaata hakanud. GaGa on hea naide, paris karme asju naitab vahest
27 January 2014 19:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Thatch better : )
"Party Cinderellas are here - They move like computer game heroes"
-then again, perhaps right makeup and moves after all :)
Daylight is fading away, night silhouettes in the sky
LED lights are flashing on towers
It's Manhattan's magical time
Ballerinas dancing the Swan Lake
On a river made of diamonds and pearls
Everything's a little bit weird now
Because tonight, it is showtime
In the middle of the street life
All we celebrate are good times
Because tonight, it is showtime
Come and walk with me
1273 down the Rockefeller street
Life is marchin' on, do you feel that?
1273 down the Rockefeller street
Everything is more than surreal
(Alright, alright, alright)
(Let's go, let's go)
Oldschool Hollywood stars
Party cinderellas are here
They move like computer game heroes
Because they know it is showtime
In the middle of the street life
All they celebrate are good times
Because tonight it is showtime
So let's keep movin' on
1273 down the Rockefeller street
Life is marchin' on, do you feel that?
1273 down the Rockefeller street
Everything is more than surreal
So let's keep movin' on
Keep movin', keep movin', keep movin', keep movin'
If you want to know what Rockefeller groove is
Keep movin', keep movin', keep movin', keep movin'
Time is right to celebrate good times
Keep movin', keep movin', keep movin', keep movin'
If you want to know what Rockefeller groove is
Keep movin', keep movin', keep movin', keep movin'
Time is right to celebrate the good times
1273 down the Rockefeller street
Life is marchin' on, do you feel that?
1273 down the Rockefeller street
Everything is more than surreal
We're singing
1273 down the Rockefeller street
Life is marchin' on, do you feel that?
We're singing
1273 down the Rockefeller street
Everything is more than surreal....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux7Lbh1PKnE
...one thing to realize - How She-s are always right, how ever they express this :)
True Story
"Party Cinderellas are here - They move like computer game heroes"
-then again, perhaps right makeup and moves after all :)
Daylight is fading away, night silhouettes in the sky
LED lights are flashing on towers
It's Manhattan's magical time
Ballerinas dancing the Swan Lake
On a river made of diamonds and pearls
Everything's a little bit weird now
Because tonight, it is showtime
In the middle of the street life
All we celebrate are good times
Because tonight, it is showtime
Come and walk with me
1273 down the Rockefeller street
Life is marchin' on, do you feel that?
1273 down the Rockefeller street
Everything is more than surreal
(Alright, alright, alright)
(Let's go, let's go)
Oldschool Hollywood stars
Party cinderellas are here
They move like computer game heroes
Because they know it is showtime
In the middle of the street life
All they celebrate are good times
Because tonight it is showtime
So let's keep movin' on
1273 down the Rockefeller street
Life is marchin' on, do you feel that?
1273 down the Rockefeller street
Everything is more than surreal
So let's keep movin' on
Keep movin', keep movin', keep movin', keep movin'
If you want to know what Rockefeller groove is
Keep movin', keep movin', keep movin', keep movin'
Time is right to celebrate good times
Keep movin', keep movin', keep movin', keep movin'
If you want to know what Rockefeller groove is
Keep movin', keep movin', keep movin', keep movin'
Time is right to celebrate the good times
1273 down the Rockefeller street
Life is marchin' on, do you feel that?
1273 down the Rockefeller street
Everything is more than surreal
We're singing
1273 down the Rockefeller street
Life is marchin' on, do you feel that?
We're singing
1273 down the Rockefeller street
Everything is more than surreal....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux7Lbh1PKnE
...one thing to realize - How She-s are always right, how ever they express this :)
True Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux7Lbh1PKnE
27 January 2014 14:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Still... wrong makeup, wrong dance movies... perhaps right words: )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YOcbjWgEpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YOcbjWgEpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YOcbjWgEpg
27 January 2014 14:31
Margus Meigo commented on Emilia Marchetti's post.
Group: Bitcoin
Hooly..
Well, they have always been up there with new solutions,
one of my favorite sites more then 10 years ago : )27 January 2014 14:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Bitcoin
http://bitcoin.org/en/vocabularyhttp://bitcoin.org/en/vocabulary
27 January 2014 14:11
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's link.
What good there? : )
Hmm.. have been dreaming often about Japanese girl, even visiting Her family in one dream.. wonder whats up with that
Hmm.. have been dreaming often about Japanese girl, even visiting Her family in one dream.. wonder whats up with that
27 January 2014 14:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Arrgh.. this Women : )
Kord ühel päeval kui kurb oli meel
Ma istusin maha kesk kõnniteed
Ei andnud kellelegi teed
Kuni äkki seisis ees mul üks imeline mees
Ta oli ise väike ent habe oli ees
Mingi krutsifiks paistis ta karvade seest
Ja silmis tal helkis üks kahtlane leek
Ta küsis mult: “Mis sa siin teed, kullake?”
Ma pahuralt vastasin: “soojendan teed”
See peale ta lausus: “ära heida meelt
Su paha tuju kaob kui lausud sõnad need
Mis avaldan sulle sel tunnil veel”
Nii öeldes pilgutas silma see mees
Ja laksutas salapäraselt keelt
Kui äkki kõik virvendas taga ja ees
See mees hüüdis valjusti: “Hopa’pa-rei”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMKll4bH9-o
Kord ühel päeval kui kurb oli meel
Ma istusin maha kesk kõnniteed
Ei andnud kellelegi teed
Kuni äkki seisis ees mul üks imeline mees
Ta oli ise väike ent habe oli ees
Mingi krutsifiks paistis ta karvade seest
Ja silmis tal helkis üks kahtlane leek
Ta küsis mult: “Mis sa siin teed, kullake?”
Ma pahuralt vastasin: “soojendan teed”
See peale ta lausus: “ära heida meelt
Su paha tuju kaob kui lausud sõnad need
Mis avaldan sulle sel tunnil veel”
Nii öeldes pilgutas silma see mees
Ja laksutas salapäraselt keelt
Kui äkki kõik virvendas taga ja ees
See mees hüüdis valjusti: “Hopa’pa-rei”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMKll4bH9-o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMKll4bH9-o
27 January 2014 13:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.lyricstime.com/1905-lyrics.html
http://www.lyricstime.com/1905-lyrics.html
25 January 2014 18:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Your heart filled with hate vacuums the smile off my face.
It makes a bad day pass slower
--your backward ideas--
stumbling and falling instead of reaching...
I don't want to.
I dont want to look at the stars with you
until you can look at strangers with me
(and smile instead of smirk) a sneer across your face,
everything is ugly to you
and beauty can't exist in anything, in anyone at all...)
are not here
your body is a shadow a memory of what used to be
we can say hello but you're dead to me.
I don't want to look at the stars with you
until you can look at strangers with me and smile.
I don't want to look at the stars with you
until you can look at strangers with me and smile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP4l6O11Q3Y
It makes a bad day pass slower
--your backward ideas--
stumbling and falling instead of reaching...
I don't want to.
I dont want to look at the stars with you
until you can look at strangers with me
(and smile instead of smirk) a sneer across your face,
everything is ugly to you
and beauty can't exist in anything, in anyone at all...)
are not here
your body is a shadow a memory of what used to be
we can say hello but you're dead to me.
I don't want to look at the stars with you
until you can look at strangers with me and smile.
I don't want to look at the stars with you
until you can look at strangers with me and smile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP4l6O11Q3Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP4l6O11Q3Y
25 January 2014 18:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
we only sad, that u still obey in these ways, a bit
but will try to approach u with understanding,
g and yt
but will try to approach u with understanding,
g and yt
25 January 2014 17:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"This video contains content from The Orchard Music, mgm and IODA, one or more of whom have blocked it on copyright grounds.
Sorry about that."
we are not, as we do not regret
Sorry about that."
we are not, as we do not regret
25 January 2014 17:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
extra list of orgs that need to go...
nice to have names of these, who need to be changed
nice to have names of these, who need to be changed
25 January 2014 17:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
but fakit, i know
this is like this
you
do not lissen me
and me, not lissening u
so fakaaakit, as Maaa ei kuule mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH-coM903Nc&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4
this is like this
you
do not lissen me
and me, not lissening u
so fakaaakit, as Maaa ei kuule mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH-coM903Nc&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH-coM903Nc&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4
25 January 2014 17:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
ma polen enam see...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw4eiZzLDA0&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4
hoitke eemalelee
(hoitke ema :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw4eiZzLDA0&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4
hoitke eemalelee
(hoitke ema :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw4eiZzLDA0&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4
25 January 2014 15:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFBINuaZWLQ&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFBINuaZWLQ&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4
25 January 2014 14:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Naed ei tea, mida moelda, need kes pole kainud Seal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAm5sZrkgMM&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4
tule lahme turnime tornides
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAm5sZrkgMM&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4
tule lahme turnime tornides
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAm5sZrkgMM&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4
25 January 2014 14:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Sest ma tean Sinu lemmiklaule peast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpDIQsLBGfA&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4
...me ei pea vaevama pead, mida toob meil homne paev
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpDIQsLBGfA&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4
...me ei pea vaevama pead, mida toob meil homne paev
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpDIQsLBGfA&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4
25 January 2014 14:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ainus mida soovin ma, et maletaksid mind Sa veel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z09wFSVsDa4&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4&index=98
...kohtasin kord haldjat ma..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z09wFSVsDa4&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4&index=98
...kohtasin kord haldjat ma..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z09wFSVsDa4&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4&index=98
25 January 2014 14:35
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
ei soovi luba anda ajarannakuks mis maeeriat muudaks sest see loikaks mateeria olematuks ja teeks selle virtuaalseks... kuid ma ike soovin, et kui naela seina lyyn, siis ta seal ka mis igaes edasi-tagasi pidi keegi liigub, ylevalt alla
25 January 2014 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Veel on aega, paastke noored hinged!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdrFbyHKD5Q&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4&index=89
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdrFbyHKD5Q&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4&index=89
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdrFbyHKD5Q&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4&index=89
24 January 2014 18:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKDfNcrqmcE&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKDfNcrqmcE&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4
24 January 2014 18:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z09wFSVsDa4&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4&index=85
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z09wFSVsDa4&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4&index=85
24 January 2014 18:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z316qZHjUU&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4&index=83
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z316qZHjUU&list=PL880917AD16E4B2A4&index=83
24 January 2014 18:18
Margus Meigo commented on Aile Tar's post.
Group: Avoimet Työpaikat Suomessa / Töökohad Soomes / Jobs in Finland Helsinki
Kiitos!24 January 2014 17:19
Margus Meigo commented on Aile Tar's post.
Group: Avoimet Työpaikat Suomessa / Töökohad Soomes / Jobs in Finland Helsinki
naish!24 January 2014 17:19
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Group: Tutvus
aga yeah, tuleb ette vaatlik olla mida vanduda :p24 January 2014 17:09
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Group: Tutvus
On ikka vestlused teil siin :D24 January 2014 17:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
When the grand experiment that is bitcoin began, the anonymous wizard desired to test two parameters- a trustless, decentralized database enjoying security enforced by the austere relentlessness of cryptography and a robust transaction system capable of sending value across the world without intermediaries. Yet the past five years years have painfully demonstrated a third missing feature: a sufficiently powerful Turing-complete scripting language. Up until this point, most innovation in advanced applications such as domain and identity registration, user-issued currencies, smart property, smart contracts, and decentralized exchange has been highly fragmented, and implementing any of these technologies has required creating an entire meta-protocol layer or even a specialized blockchain. Theoretically, however, each and every one of these innovations and more can potentially be made hundreds of times easier to implement, and easier to scale, if only there was a stronger foundational layer with a powerful scripting language for all of these protocols to build upon. And this need is what we seek to satisfy.
Ethereum is a modular, Turing-complete contract scripting system married to a blockchain and developed with a philosophy of simplicity, universality and non-discrimination. Our goal is to provide a platform for decentralized applications - an android of the cryptocurrency world, where all efforts can share a common set of APIs, trust-less interactions and no compromises. We ask for the community to join us as volunteers, developers, investors and evangelists seeking to enable a fundamentally different paradigm for the internet and the relationships it provides.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5FDvzj8YX4
Visit our Bitcoin Talk thread:
http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D428589.0%3Btopicseen&session_token=7oxQUdM_704XfaiwM_xA_cie7ch8MTM5MDY1NzU5M0AxMzkwNTcxMTkz
Go here to read the white paper:
http://ethereum.org/ethereum.html
(Ta on ka seotud Amiri http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/bitcoin-dark-wallet DarkWalletiga )http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5FDvzj8YX4
24 January 2014 15:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
"We are now working in Barcelona in a techno-industrial eco-village called Calafou ( https://www.calafou.org/ ). Calafou is working to rebuild a production complex.
There are a wide variety of projects ranging from agriculture, construction, energy, water and elettornia up obviously hacking. The hacklabs is characterized by a mountain of stuff on Bitcoin, but there are also other projects to create an encrypted telephone network and a social network for self-managed communities. "
More information about us: https://wiki.unsystem.net/ index.php / Calafou
Kui kellegil soovi selle komuuniga liituda seal, fyysiliselt ka, kylastada, siis antke teada... ka
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.macao.mi.it/appuntamenti/talk-con-vitalik-buterin-e-amir-taaki/&prev=/search%3Fq%3DVitalik%2BButerin%2Bamir%2Btaaki%26num%3D100%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Dactive%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Dnsh%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:officialhttps://www.calafou.org/
24 January 2014 15:44
Margus Meigo commented on Asse Sauga's post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
Jup, mottes see ka endal oli, loogiline samm -
kuigi veel suured mangurid pole otsustanud mida kuidas kasutama hakkame24 January 2014 14:11
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Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
ehehhee24 January 2014 14:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Et nagu korporatsioonid ka proovivad seotud olla, aitab p2vavalgusele kaasa
24 January 2014 13:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
This at first subtle shift from the prophet’s role as speaker for God to more intimate identity with God takes a dramatic turn in Woman Wisdom’s self-description in 8:22–36. Translation of the verb in 8:22a is debated. The NRSV’s “The Lord created me” (from the Septuagint) is less likely correct than either “acquired” or “conceived” (in the biological sense; compare “I was brought forth” in vv. 24–25). A similar ambiguity occurs in 8:30a, where the NRSV’s “master workman” could also be “darling child.” In either case, Woman Wisdom is present with God before and during the process of creation, as a playful child (see 8:30b) or a wise architect, or, in the artful ambiguity of poetry, both! It is this primordial relationship that authorizes her claim in 8:35: “whoever finds me finds life/and obtains favor from the Lord.”
This near-deification of Woman Wisdom in 8:22–36 cannot help but recall certain ancient goddesses, in this case especially Ma’at, the Egyptian goddess of justice, who was also understood both as the child of the creator god and (especially in Egyptian wisdom literature) as the ordering principle of creation. Allusions to Ma’at may also be seen in Wisdom’s claim to establish just rule (8:15–16) and in the depiction of her with long life in her right hand and wealth in her left (3:16), for Ma’at also appears with the ankh, symbol of life, in one hand and a scepter in the other. Parallels may also be drawn to the Egyptian Isis, the Sumerian Inanna, and the (related) Babylonian Ishtar/Canaanite Astarte. Some of these parallels depend on a related analysis of Proverbs’s strange woman (loose woman) as representative of the love and fertility practices of the Ishtar/Astarte cults. Lang has suggested that Wisdom was worshipped as a goddess of scribes, though this remains speculative. New archaeological evidence for the ongoing Israelite worship, well into the monarchic period, of the Canaanite goddess Asherah alongside YHWH has led McKinlay to argue that female-personified Wisdom is part of a complex dynamic of theological convergence, wherein YHWH took on attributes of Asherah as worship of the goddess was repressed. Asherah, associated symbolically with trees, was reduced, in effect, to the wisdom of YHWH personified, who is “a tree of life to those who lay hold of her” (Proverbs 3:18).
Attempts to understand the significance of Woman Wisdom in ancient Israelite life and in the canonical and deuterocanonical traditions underscore her deep ambiguity: to feminist thought, whether historically or theologically inclined. At worst she represents the domestication of a powerful goddess into a good wife who supports her man and whose honor depends on his willingness to give her public recognition. Along with her counterpart, Woman Stranger, she may be seen as part of patriarchy’s perennial classification of all women as either all-good or all-evil, and her apparent power but a mouthpiece for the voice of the fathers. On the other hand, it is difficult to read Proverbs’s paeans to the power of both wisdom personified as woman (Chapters 1–9) and of woman as the ideal representative of wisdom (Chapter 31) without imagining some related social reality at their base. One likely context for such open recognition of women’s contributions—as well as perceived danger from “loose women”—is the period after the Babylonian exile, as the Judeans struggled for a new definition of “Israel” as a people identified by family households rather than a monarchic polity. Especially notable is the editor’s choice to open and close the Book of Proverbs with female imagery. Whatever one might make of it—whether ultimate co-optation or ultimate subversion—this quintessentially male book is framed with a woman’s voice.
Bibliography
Brenner, Athalya. “Some Observations on the Figurations of Woman in Wisdom Literature.” In Of Prophets’ Visions and the Wisdom of Sages: Essays in Honour of R. Norman Whybray on His Seventieth Birthday, edited by Heather McKay and David J. A. Clines, 192–208. Sheffield, England: 1993.
Camp, Claudia V. Wisdom and the Feminine in the Book of Proverbs. Decatur, Georgia: 1985.
Fontaine, Carole. “Proverbs.” In Harper’s Bible Commentary, edited by James L. Mays, 495–517. San Francisco: 1988.
McKinlay, Judith E. Gendering Wisdom the Host: Biblical Invitations to Eat and Drink. Sheffield, England: 1996.
Meyers, Carol, General Editor. Women in Scripture. New York: 2000.
Newsom, Carol A. “Woman and the Discourse of Patriarchal Wisdom; A Study of Proverbs 1–9.” In Gender and Difference in Ancient Israel, edited by Peggy L. Day, 43–57. Minneapolis: 1989.
This near-deification of Woman Wisdom in 8:22–36 cannot help but recall certain ancient goddesses, in this case especially Ma’at, the Egyptian goddess of justice, who was also understood both as the child of the creator god and (especially in Egyptian wisdom literature) as the ordering principle of creation. Allusions to Ma’at may also be seen in Wisdom’s claim to establish just rule (8:15–16) and in the depiction of her with long life in her right hand and wealth in her left (3:16), for Ma’at also appears with the ankh, symbol of life, in one hand and a scepter in the other. Parallels may also be drawn to the Egyptian Isis, the Sumerian Inanna, and the (related) Babylonian Ishtar/Canaanite Astarte. Some of these parallels depend on a related analysis of Proverbs’s strange woman (loose woman) as representative of the love and fertility practices of the Ishtar/Astarte cults. Lang has suggested that Wisdom was worshipped as a goddess of scribes, though this remains speculative. New archaeological evidence for the ongoing Israelite worship, well into the monarchic period, of the Canaanite goddess Asherah alongside YHWH has led McKinlay to argue that female-personified Wisdom is part of a complex dynamic of theological convergence, wherein YHWH took on attributes of Asherah as worship of the goddess was repressed. Asherah, associated symbolically with trees, was reduced, in effect, to the wisdom of YHWH personified, who is “a tree of life to those who lay hold of her” (Proverbs 3:18).
Attempts to understand the significance of Woman Wisdom in ancient Israelite life and in the canonical and deuterocanonical traditions underscore her deep ambiguity: to feminist thought, whether historically or theologically inclined. At worst she represents the domestication of a powerful goddess into a good wife who supports her man and whose honor depends on his willingness to give her public recognition. Along with her counterpart, Woman Stranger, she may be seen as part of patriarchy’s perennial classification of all women as either all-good or all-evil, and her apparent power but a mouthpiece for the voice of the fathers. On the other hand, it is difficult to read Proverbs’s paeans to the power of both wisdom personified as woman (Chapters 1–9) and of woman as the ideal representative of wisdom (Chapter 31) without imagining some related social reality at their base. One likely context for such open recognition of women’s contributions—as well as perceived danger from “loose women”—is the period after the Babylonian exile, as the Judeans struggled for a new definition of “Israel” as a people identified by family households rather than a monarchic polity. Especially notable is the editor’s choice to open and close the Book of Proverbs with female imagery. Whatever one might make of it—whether ultimate co-optation or ultimate subversion—this quintessentially male book is framed with a woman’s voice.
Bibliography
Brenner, Athalya. “Some Observations on the Figurations of Woman in Wisdom Literature.” In Of Prophets’ Visions and the Wisdom of Sages: Essays in Honour of R. Norman Whybray on His Seventieth Birthday, edited by Heather McKay and David J. A. Clines, 192–208. Sheffield, England: 1993.
Camp, Claudia V. Wisdom and the Feminine in the Book of Proverbs. Decatur, Georgia: 1985.
Fontaine, Carole. “Proverbs.” In Harper’s Bible Commentary, edited by James L. Mays, 495–517. San Francisco: 1988.
McKinlay, Judith E. Gendering Wisdom the Host: Biblical Invitations to Eat and Drink. Sheffield, England: 1996.
Meyers, Carol, General Editor. Women in Scripture. New York: 2000.
Newsom, Carol A. “Woman and the Discourse of Patriarchal Wisdom; A Study of Proverbs 1–9.” In Gender and Difference in Ancient Israel, edited by Peggy L. Day, 43–57. Minneapolis: 1989.
24 January 2014 13:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The books of Proverbs and Job, along with Ecclesiastes and the Apocryphal/Deuterocanonical Books of Sirach and the Wisdom of Solomon, are classified by scholars as “wisdom literature” because of their interest in this fundamental human attribute and its relationship to the divine, and because of their similarities to other ancient Near Eastern literature with similar forms and concerns. Notable in Proverbs and the Wisdom of Solomon (and to a lesser degree in Job and Sirach) is the personification of the concept of wisdom as a woman (here referred to as Woman Wisdom to distinguish the personified figure from the more general use of the term). Why the female personification? Perhaps in part because, in Hebrew, wisdom is a grammatically feminine noun. Grammar does not fully explain, however, Proverbs’s interest in repeated and varied development of the female persona, which contrasts with the only incipient personification in Job. The female imagery for Woman Wisdom is also closely connected to her negative counterpart in Proverbs, that embodiment of evil referred to as the “loose woman” (“strange woman,” or “Woman Stranger”).
Job 28, perhaps originally an independent poem, now serves as an interlude within Job’s final discourse of self-defense. The poem begins with the image of mining—humans’ difficult but successful search for precious things in earth’s depths—to highlight by contrast the negative answer to its central question: “But where shall wisdom be found?/And where is the place of understanding?” (28:12; compare v. 20). Although the mythological entities Abaddon and Death have “heard a rumor of it,” only God understands the way to it” (vv. 22–23). Here, the NRSV appropriately translates the pronoun referring to wisdom as a neuter, because, although the concept is accorded a high degree of independent existence, it has yet to be personified. As in Proverbs, wisdom is associated with God’s creative and ordering activities. Surprisingly, wisdom seems to be something even God has to “search out” (28:27; is there a hint of personification here?), though God’s successful search concludes with a conventional instruction: “Truly, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom” (28:28).
The female personification of wisdom in Proverbs is dramatic, exalted, and varied, leading scholars to draw correlations both to ancient Near Eastern goddesses and to the roles and literary portrayals of women of the time. It is particularly notable in a book that feminist scholars generally acknowledge as perhaps the most androcentric in the Bible, its instructions addressed clearly to a “son” or “sons” (the NRSV’s efforts at the inclusive “child/ren” notwithstanding) from, presumably, a father-teacher (4:1–4). Brenner, however, argues for the possibility of a mother-teacher’s voice and interests as well, patriarchally conditioned though these may be.
Reflections of traditional women’s roles—especially aspects of the role of wife—may be seen in the characterizations of Woman Wisdom in Proverbs 3:13–18, 4:5–9, 7:4–5 and 9:1–6. Lest the modern reader think “only a wife,” one must note the real, if behind-the-scenes, social power wielded by the wife as manager of an extended and productive family household and as counselor to husband and children (see Proverbs 31:10–31). Just as the husband of this capable wife “will have no lack of gain” (31:11), so also Woman Wisdom will exalt and honor the man who prizes and embraces her (3:13–18; 4:8). Both bring the trusting husband a “crown” (4:9; 12:4). Just as the wife provisions “her household” (31:21) with both moral and material well-being, so also Woman Wisdom builds her house, sets her table, and teaches “the way of insight” (9:1–2, 6; 14:1). Both wife and Wisdom are, moreover, desirable sexual partners: Proverbs 5:15–19 urges husbandly faithfulness and satisfaction in his wife’s body, while 7:4 tells the seeker of Wisdom to call her “sister,” a term of endearment common in the Song of Solomon.
Public imagery and domestic imagery both appear in passages on Woman Wisdom. A variation on the human imagery occurs in Proverbs 1:20–33 and 8:1–21, where she appears as a prophet, calling out for followers in the most public places of human interaction: in the street and squares, at the busiest corner and the city gates (1:21–22), on the heights, beside the way, and at the crossroads (8:2). Her rhetoric of persuasion offers both carrot and stick. To one who chooses her way, she offers wealth and power, as well as “fruit … better than gold” (8:15–19). To those who ignore her counsel, she promises mockery when panic strikes and ultimately death (1:26, 32). Woman Wisdom’s vocabulary, especially in Chapter 1, is reminiscent of prophetic language (she “calls,” is “refused,” “stretches out her hand,” needs to be “sought” and “found”; 1:24, 28, 8:17; compare 2 Chronicles 15:2, Isaiah 6:9–10, 65:1–2; Hosea 5:6, Amos 8:12. The prophets, however, use such terminology to describe Israel’s relationship to God; Wisdom speaks of relationship with herself!
http://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/woman-wisdom-bible
Job 28, perhaps originally an independent poem, now serves as an interlude within Job’s final discourse of self-defense. The poem begins with the image of mining—humans’ difficult but successful search for precious things in earth’s depths—to highlight by contrast the negative answer to its central question: “But where shall wisdom be found?/And where is the place of understanding?” (28:12; compare v. 20). Although the mythological entities Abaddon and Death have “heard a rumor of it,” only God understands the way to it” (vv. 22–23). Here, the NRSV appropriately translates the pronoun referring to wisdom as a neuter, because, although the concept is accorded a high degree of independent existence, it has yet to be personified. As in Proverbs, wisdom is associated with God’s creative and ordering activities. Surprisingly, wisdom seems to be something even God has to “search out” (28:27; is there a hint of personification here?), though God’s successful search concludes with a conventional instruction: “Truly, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom” (28:28).
The female personification of wisdom in Proverbs is dramatic, exalted, and varied, leading scholars to draw correlations both to ancient Near Eastern goddesses and to the roles and literary portrayals of women of the time. It is particularly notable in a book that feminist scholars generally acknowledge as perhaps the most androcentric in the Bible, its instructions addressed clearly to a “son” or “sons” (the NRSV’s efforts at the inclusive “child/ren” notwithstanding) from, presumably, a father-teacher (4:1–4). Brenner, however, argues for the possibility of a mother-teacher’s voice and interests as well, patriarchally conditioned though these may be.
Reflections of traditional women’s roles—especially aspects of the role of wife—may be seen in the characterizations of Woman Wisdom in Proverbs 3:13–18, 4:5–9, 7:4–5 and 9:1–6. Lest the modern reader think “only a wife,” one must note the real, if behind-the-scenes, social power wielded by the wife as manager of an extended and productive family household and as counselor to husband and children (see Proverbs 31:10–31). Just as the husband of this capable wife “will have no lack of gain” (31:11), so also Woman Wisdom will exalt and honor the man who prizes and embraces her (3:13–18; 4:8). Both bring the trusting husband a “crown” (4:9; 12:4). Just as the wife provisions “her household” (31:21) with both moral and material well-being, so also Woman Wisdom builds her house, sets her table, and teaches “the way of insight” (9:1–2, 6; 14:1). Both wife and Wisdom are, moreover, desirable sexual partners: Proverbs 5:15–19 urges husbandly faithfulness and satisfaction in his wife’s body, while 7:4 tells the seeker of Wisdom to call her “sister,” a term of endearment common in the Song of Solomon.
Public imagery and domestic imagery both appear in passages on Woman Wisdom. A variation on the human imagery occurs in Proverbs 1:20–33 and 8:1–21, where she appears as a prophet, calling out for followers in the most public places of human interaction: in the street and squares, at the busiest corner and the city gates (1:21–22), on the heights, beside the way, and at the crossroads (8:2). Her rhetoric of persuasion offers both carrot and stick. To one who chooses her way, she offers wealth and power, as well as “fruit … better than gold” (8:15–19). To those who ignore her counsel, she promises mockery when panic strikes and ultimately death (1:26, 32). Woman Wisdom’s vocabulary, especially in Chapter 1, is reminiscent of prophetic language (she “calls,” is “refused,” “stretches out her hand,” needs to be “sought” and “found”; 1:24, 28, 8:17; compare 2 Chronicles 15:2, Isaiah 6:9–10, 65:1–2; Hosea 5:6, Amos 8:12. The prophets, however, use such terminology to describe Israel’s relationship to God; Wisdom speaks of relationship with herself!
http://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/woman-wisdom-bible
http://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/woman-wisdom-bible
24 January 2014 13:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"Wise Women" or Wisdom Woman?
A Biblical Study of Women's Roles
http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/ted_hildebrandt/otesources/20-proverbs/text/articles/moore-womanwisdom-rq.pdf
http://womenofwisdom.org/
A Biblical Study of Women's Roles
http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/ted_hildebrandt/otesources/20-proverbs/text/articles/moore-womanwisdom-rq.pdf
http://womenofwisdom.org/
24 January 2014 13:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Tutvus
@ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xINSwvNx1A
So yeah... and if there is ANYTHING mis meid vabastada voib, siis see sama asi mille point pii(bel) un - Naise Armastus : )
http://womenofwisdom.org/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xINSwvNx1A
23 January 2014 22:39
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Fokin's post.
Group: Tutvus
ei nuh, ma ise juba muus vanuses, need roomud kahjuks Su suhtes juba unustustes...
kuid umbe 10 aasta parast kui ma 40nd siis me jalle normaalses vanuse vahes : )
Kuid yea.. seni loodame aga et sama ime hea inimene Su juurde tee leiab kui Sa ise :)23 January 2014 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on Kaija Mõistus's post.
Group: Tutvus
Mis siis ise majandad?23 January 2014 22:25
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Fokin's post.
Group: Tutvus
tosi lugu : )23 January 2014 22:23
Margus Meigo commented on Irina Baumanis's post.
Group: Tutvus
Nu jah, voi siis rohkem selge moistusega kanepit, et moistust selgem hoida :)
Kuid tosi ta on, kui hingesi poletatakse armstuseta siis igast hullusi voib korvadevahele jaada wisdomi asemel.. et nagu Kanepit voimas spirit ka, kes soovib austust ja kes ei peaks tulema kunagi tegelt mehe ja naise vahele.. vaid peaks ainult liimina toimima (vahest mehed aga unustavad, et see mis Kanepis on naises sygaval olemas ammu.. et selle teada saamiseks, kuidas teada saada, kuidas teadlikumaks saada, oigete teadmiste osas, naise suhtes - vut selline kanepi kasutamine vast andestatav... kui eesmark on Armastus)
(bdw, ma ise ei arva, et Kanaada Kaitse Minister - kes tulnukatest raagib, pidevalt kanepit suitsetab, ju tal muud moodused ka teada saamiseks)23 January 2014 22:21
Margus Meigo commented on Sander Laast's post.
Group: Tutvus
ma siin inglismaal avastanud, et suurem osa inimesi kellelt kysinud olen, isegi ei oska identifitseerida vahtra puu lehte, tosilugu
ja siis yeldi , et noh, see pole oluline teadmine, et kus seda ikka vaja laheb... (vahtra puud siin koige tihedamad linnas ja pargis)23 January 2014 22:17
Margus Meigo commented on Liisa Sumberg's post.
Group: Tutvus
jaga meile ka arukust, tahame ka arukad olla, moistlikult23 January 2014 22:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
This is SO huge mistake, IMHO, that people make about forgetting, that HIM
is
mistaking Her - always more
That have hard time expressing or explaining this withe out emotionally locking up and starting to pour out millions of examples about WHY is SO, vitally important,
to know,
that There SHOULD , and IS, and always will be,
HEr She
and Him
and that always, Him, (as we took male part on this) HAS, the fault, starting from the apple times
- you see, this is me, struggling to express HOW important is to know, that there SHOULD always be, in so many arias Him (as weaker sex) and HEr (as more sensitive, affected, important Sex0
is
mistaking Her - always more
That have hard time expressing or explaining this withe out emotionally locking up and starting to pour out millions of examples about WHY is SO, vitally important,
to know,
that There SHOULD , and IS, and always will be,
HEr She
and Him
and that always, Him, (as we took male part on this) HAS, the fault, starting from the apple times
- you see, this is me, struggling to express HOW important is to know, that there SHOULD always be, in so many arias Him (as weaker sex) and HEr (as more sensitive, affected, important Sex0
23 January 2014 22:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: С С С Р
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAayvcFvmsY is my second language, one great Polish Girl told me once
for real thought, we do
as well
(sorry about English, will write on Estonian next time, )http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAayvcFvmsY
23 January 2014 22:02
Margus Meigo commented on Sander Laast's post.
Group: Tutvus
seksuaalsus, suhted, ... koik vaga sygaval levelil neil oli uuritud ja puuritud, inimeste lukustamiseks... ja nyyd koos koikide teiste suurmaade tehnoloogiatega uuesti suuremini ja voimsamini sama proovitakse, kuid kuna suure supi sees oleme, siis me enam ei panegi tahele, sest klobistame xBoxe ja vahmie filme mis me peas avavad uksi neile, kes teavad rohkem kui meie tava intelligent - mida meiega teha saab...23 January 2014 21:59
Margus Meigo commented on Sander Laast's post.
Group: Tutvus
"Soviets had no idea what they was up against"
t6epoolest...
"... UN-thill they contributed .."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS8kuHZrN3Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS8kuHZrN3A
23 January 2014 21:58
Margus Meigo commented on Sander Laast's post.
Group: Tutvus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAayvcFvmsY seda mussi lasid ka talle v ? :p
Muidu eesti muusika juba ameerikaLaste silmis paris austust koguma hakkanud seni kuni meie endi silmis vaartused igavaks muutuma hakanud sest ei moista headuse voimu voi ..
hmm, eestis ikka asjad selgeimad , imho,
kuigi maaim on tais Suurt teadust ja Internatsionaalseid teadmisi ja imelisi tarkuseid, handjaidhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAayvcFvmsY
23 January 2014 21:56
Margus Meigo commented on Carolyn Trei's post.
Group: Tutvus
Mis see mida koik naised tahavad, te Armu loomad : )23 January 2014 21:54
Margus Meigo commented on Carolyn Trei's post.
Group: Tutvus
Kuidas tutvuste osas edeneb, kas mottekaaslasi juba koguneb.. voi Su kena valimus eemale peletanud mehed kes pole veel kindel, mis Su huvid on (ei noh, peale selle - mida ME alles opime..)23 January 2014 21:54
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Fokin's post.
Group: Tutvus
Siiliga tydo :D23 January 2014 21:35
Margus Meigo commented on Rita Lint's post.
Group: Tutvus
kalli-kalli siis saab wsooja : )23 January 2014 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on Sander Laast's post.
Group: Tutvus
Wou, timm,
Kus taga kohtasid, mida head ta teeb?
Ta suht avatud suga tundub (muidugi Eesti neiud alati sydamelahedasemad nii mitmetahu parast)23 January 2014 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on Kert Alertt's post.
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(:23 January 2014 21:32
Margus Meigo commented on Kert Alertt's post.
Group: Tutvus
kuidas edeneb?
naisi nagu murdu ?23 January 2014 21:32
Margus Meigo commented on Reiko Pukk's post.
Group: Tutvus
jutukad un head :p23 January 2014 21:32
Margus Meigo commented on Daniela Suun's post.
Group: Tutvus
Inimesed voiksid ennast rohkem siiralt ja suurelt valjendada, et kes kuidas miks on ja mida soovib ja elust motleb
Pean ikke enda kosjakontori avama millest ammuaega moelnud23 January 2014 21:32
Margus Meigo commented on Carolyn Trei's post.
Group: Tutvus
Timm!
(Y)23 January 2014 21:30
Margus Meigo commented on Kelly Maidla's post.
Group: Tutvus
Kelly, kutt jumala normaalne ju Otto Põllumaa)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=221228214595890&set=a.167997133252332.54431.100001261388217&type=1&theater
need vaga head
et targad sonad ja siirad valjendused
Lihtsalt sellised asjad:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=221204841264894&set=a.167997133252332.54431.100001261388217&type=1&theater
maha votta ja need asjad mis sydames on, neid jargida ja sellel teemal edasi liikuda.
Koik mis pole timm, sa Naine, sa saad aidata ju muutuda oma sopradel/kuttidel sellisemaks mis normaalne ja huvitav... et ole ise ka eeskujuks... aitamises ja siis head meessobrad, kes paris inimesed... su sydamesse jaavad kui oiged head kes moistavad, et sa ka, oled maailm : )23 January 2014 21:28
Margus Meigo commented on Irina Baumanis's post.
Group: Tutvus
Mis arvad, kas erinevad tulnari liigid seksuaalselt proovivad Naisi maakeral yle votta meestelt tehes mehi masendavamaks (jamade kultuuride ja opetustega) ja naisi katkisemaks (jamade meeste ja moodidega) ?
Et umbes midagi sellist?
(kas see teema ykskoik mille alla ka laheb?)
(Kes teemas sees pole, tsekake selle poliitku konasi mu profiililt jms)23 January 2014 21:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Put that also in between layers of religious thoughts and aliens (in us) "Curtis examines the rise of game theory during the Cold War and the way in which its mathematical models of human behaviour filtered into economic thought. The programme traces the development of game theory with particular reference to the work of John Nash, who believed that all humans were inherently suspicious and selfish creatures that strategised constantly. Using this as his first premise, Nash constructed logically consistent and mathematically verifiable models, for which he won the Bank of Sweden Prize in Economic Sciences, commonly referred to as the Nobel Prize in Economics. He invented system games reflecting his beliefs about human behaviour, including one he called "Fuck You Buddy" (later published as "So Long Sucker"), in which the only way to win was to betray your playing partner, and it is from this game that the episode's title is taken. These games were internally coherent and worked correctly as long as the players obeyed the ground rules that they should behave selfishly and try to outwit their opponents, but when RAND's analysts tried the games on their own secretaries, they instead chose not to betray each other, but to cooperate every time. This did not, in the eyes of the analysts, discredit the models, but instead proved that the secretaries were unfit subjects.
What was not known at the time was that Nash was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia, and, as a result, was deeply suspicious of everyone around him—including his colleagues—and was convinced that many were involved in conspiracies against him. It was this mistaken belief that led to his view of people as a whole that formed the basis for his theories. Footage of an older and wiser Nash was shown in which he acknowledges that his paranoid views of other people at the time were false..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa1Ezq7e0MA
What was not known at the time was that Nash was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia, and, as a result, was deeply suspicious of everyone around him—including his colleagues—and was convinced that many were involved in conspiracies against him. It was this mistaken belief that led to his view of people as a whole that formed the basis for his theories. Footage of an older and wiser Nash was shown in which he acknowledges that his paranoid views of other people at the time were false..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa1Ezq7e0MA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa1Ezq7e0MA
23 January 2014 21:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
You Know
Its all about Her,
Its all about Her,
23 January 2014 21:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
and to make this scarier
- this is common thing that happens in mass scale, - also perhaps "they" can use for this normal human body sometimes, by having normal human body on control to have power over someone,
"they" can perhaps, right, (one more comma and swallow - gets no better from here)
as soon as it gets too bad to "let viktimiser free" but as whatever happened on between bodies attract one back to their victim with affection like reactions/sparks
then mechanically or whatever way controlled victimizer will do all humiliating sensire dear work & words to get Her empathy back,
- dark ones do not bother work by themselves to hard...
usually perhaps, to get Her back on hook (or even him time by time, maybe)
besides humans know nano ways to get in to her heart back better then any kind of aliens who know this stuff just really academically, may i say.
So.. as soon he gets back to her pens (keep in mind, that we describe just one type of attackers / vamps here, there is tens of versions that are to depressing to even describe for now, put perhaps needed in future if "they" do not change their ways - using human ignorance to access our mind and body - to access to other people, by using Us)
- this is common thing that happens in mass scale, - also perhaps "they" can use for this normal human body sometimes, by having normal human body on control to have power over someone,
"they" can perhaps, right, (one more comma and swallow - gets no better from here)
as soon as it gets too bad to "let viktimiser free" but as whatever happened on between bodies attract one back to their victim with affection like reactions/sparks
then mechanically or whatever way controlled victimizer will do all humiliating sensire dear work & words to get Her empathy back,
- dark ones do not bother work by themselves to hard...
usually perhaps, to get Her back on hook (or even him time by time, maybe)
besides humans know nano ways to get in to her heart back better then any kind of aliens who know this stuff just really academically, may i say.
So.. as soon he gets back to her pens (keep in mind, that we describe just one type of attackers / vamps here, there is tens of versions that are to depressing to even describe for now, put perhaps needed in future if "they" do not change their ways - using human ignorance to access our mind and body - to access to other people, by using Us)
23 January 2014 21:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"...His attacks get worse and worse while your defense gets weaker and weaker. He wants to empty you completely, until there is nothing left of you. What he wants (unconsciously perhaps, but that doesn’t matter) is to depersonalize you, to cut your ego into little pieces, until you no longer exist as your own person; that’s when he has complete power over you...."
23 January 2014 21:04
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Kala's post.
Group: Tutvus
irww @ pervarid :p23 January 2014 20:06
Margus Meigo commented on Kersti Veinšteins's post.
Group: Tutvus
H222sti palju, kyll sul ika vaba aega : )23 January 2014 20:06
Margus Meigo commented on Rita Lint's post.
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Jahe seal ? :023 January 2014 20:06
Margus Meigo commented on Marika Hein's post.
Group: Tutvus
esimest korda naen, et tutvuse piir vastupidi pannakse
Hmm23 January 2014 20:06
Margus Meigo commented on Avely Tamsalu's post.
Group: Tutvus
Wee, ma elasin seal.. Ma2rjamaa ligidal (Paekylas) ... nagu vaga yle 15 aasta tagais ait :p23 January 2014 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on Karoliina Eva Ots's post.
Group: Tutvus
See ploki asi nii tavaparane juba
veider, see koht siin peaks soodustama ju kontakte : )23 January 2014 19:59
Margus Meigo commented on Irina Baumanis's post.
Group: Tutvus
Milllised head jututeemad teemaks ?23 January 2014 19:59
Margus Meigo commented on Carolyn Trei's post.
Group: Tutvus
Kuidas moodi Sul juba ei ole tutvusi :D23 January 2014 19:58
Margus Meigo commented on Liis Vestrik's post.
Group: Tutvus
juba kolab hasti
ja toeselt :)23 January 2014 19:58
Margus Meigo commented on Kelli Sandra Hartõkainen's post.
Group: Tutvus
nee, kahju , et ma Viljandist ple ;p
aww, sellised sinised silmad nagu, ebareaalselt maagiline23 January 2014 19:58
Margus Meigo commented on Reelika Tilk's post.
Group: Tutvus
(: Mis tutvusi otsid ? : )23 January 2014 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on Liisa Sumberg's post.
Group: Tutvus
Wau, sellised silmad : )23 January 2014 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on Mariliis Jõgi's post.
Group: Tutvus
Ma vaga moistlik,
hmm.. ufadest meeldib raakida qaint vahest ; )23 January 2014 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Heidok's post.
Group: Tutvus
Mul ka sama teema lisamistega aegajalt23 January 2014 19:56
Margus Meigo commented on Egle Laane's post.
Group: Tutvus
Vau, kas sa elad seal metsa ligidal ?
Naice23 January 2014 19:55
Margus Meigo commented on Kert Alertt's post.
Group: Tutvus
eriti hea kaane pilt tutvuse samiseks :D:D23 January 2014 19:55
Margus Meigo commented on Sander Laast's post.
Group: Tutvus
Mis ta facebook un ? :)23 January 2014 19:54
Margus Meigo commented on Kevin Kir's post.
Group: Tutvus
mis vanus see savi veel on ? :p23 January 2014 19:54
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Jane's post.
Group: Tutvus
aga ofcourse : )23 January 2014 19:53
Margus Meigo commented on Glorya Boisen's post.
Group: Tutvus
Kumb teist kiisudest? :)23 January 2014 19:53
Margus Meigo commented on Kaija Mõistus's post.
Group: Tutvus
Tervisi vorusse : )
Ma ise UKs kuid lihtsalt, voru jai silma...
kuidas elu v6rus un praegu ?
Mida head tehakse seal ?23 January 2014 19:52
Margus Meigo commented on Daniela Suun's post.
Group: Tutvus
jup, on huvitavamaid asju
nagu wikipeediat uurida etc23 January 2014 19:51
Margus Meigo commented on Heleriin Krõlova's post.
Group: Tutvus
enamasti mehed on need lambad kes Naised kurvastama panevad,
... kuid eks seda ka eriti siis kui tyre ema pole ette valmistanud meid Maailma jaoks
voi Zen masterid, talumehed, shamaanid isad vms : )23 January 2014 19:50
Margus Meigo commented on Heleriin Krõlova's post.
Group: Tutvus
Maagilised seened alati teraapiaks soovitan, soovituslikult austavas keskonnas...
Ma pole veel otsustanud, kas hea alguses vahe vahe .. korrad paar ja siis paris kogus voi paris kogus, et mitte oma meeli ette valmistada toe tooja eest kaitsmiseks23 January 2014 19:47
Margus Meigo commented on Heleriin Krõlova's post.
Group: Tutvus
Kurbus on teadmise puudus, et oleme loksu sattunud kus meid uskuma pannakse, et maailmas pole piisavalt mille yle roomustada, lootust hoida23 January 2014 19:46
Margus Meigo commented on Cybersalon's link.
Our squat crew : ))
22 January 2014 21:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
How do you compare St Margarite with her ? : )
22 January 2014 17:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Group: Endised punkarid
Vaatame mida sellistes kohtades https://www.facebook.com/groups/COI03/members/ ka head jagatakse
Eks uus laine cccp rist peaks kohe varsti avalikumalt ka tulema, igast projekte ja opinguid ilusti kenasti pikalt valmistatudС С С Р
22 January 2014 15:22
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Group: Endised punkarid
vaike morsine nina vahest aint...22 January 2014 15:11
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
Mine still good after changing to native language, was in new FBI beeta launch about a year before, it was arrght, sometimes
21 January 2014 21:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Electrophysiology
Conference: 4th INCF Congress of Neuroinformatics, Boston, USA, 4 Sep - 6 Sep, 2011.
Topic: Electrophysiology
Citation: Kotov V, Artinian L, Rehder V and Dunin-Barkowski W (2011). Modeling of the electrical activity of the Helisoma trivolvis B5 neurons. Front. Neuroinform. Conference Abstract: 4th INCF Congress of Neuroinformatics. doi: 10.3389/conf.fninf.2011.08.00131
Received: 17 Oct 2011; Published Online: 19 Oct 2011.
* Correspondence: Dr. Vladimir Kotov, NIISI RAS, Neuroinformatics Department, Moscow, Russia, vkotov@ru.ru
Conference: 4th INCF Congress of Neuroinformatics, Boston, USA, 4 Sep - 6 Sep, 2011.
Topic: Electrophysiology
Citation: Kotov V, Artinian L, Rehder V and Dunin-Barkowski W (2011). Modeling of the electrical activity of the Helisoma trivolvis B5 neurons. Front. Neuroinform. Conference Abstract: 4th INCF Congress of Neuroinformatics. doi: 10.3389/conf.fninf.2011.08.00131
Received: 17 Oct 2011; Published Online: 19 Oct 2011.
* Correspondence: Dr. Vladimir Kotov, NIISI RAS, Neuroinformatics Department, Moscow, Russia, vkotov@ru.ru
21 January 2014 06:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
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TIBCO Software Inc.
Tripwire, Inc. (409)
Trusted Computing Group (Non Exhibiting Sponsor)
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UMBC Training Centers (708)
University of Maryland University College (702)
Vanguard Integrity Professionals (404)
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Veris Group (309)
Vormetric (107)
WatchGuard Technologies, Inc. (703)
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Michael Walker
DARPA
David Waltermire
Security Automation Architect
NIST
David Waltermire is the specification architect for the Security Automation Program at the National Institute of Standards and Technology. Waltermire has been a significant contributor to the Security Content Automation Protocol (SCAP) and CAESARS-FE Continuous Monitoring projects. Prior to joining NIST, he worked as a security consultant where he focused on the advancement of security automation capabilities within the government sector. He comes from an operational background, having managed systems and network operations for internet service providers and also working as a software engineer pioneering the first standards-based configuration assessment tool. His research experience includes computer viruses, vulnerability/misconfiguration identification, categorization and remediation.
Kimberly Watson
Technical Leader
DHS
Ms. Watson has over 25 years of experience in Information Assurance technologies, analysis, mitigation, and measurement. She joined DHS last March and has been leading efforts to develop maturity measures, architectures, and CONOPs for Continous Diagnostics and Mitigation (CDM) capabilities.
Daniel Wiley
Check Point Software
Dick Wilkins
Phoenix
Richard "Dick" Wilkins is Principal Technology Liaison for Phoenix Technologies Ltd., a US-based independent boot firmware (BIOS) development company. He is also an Assistant Professor of Computer Science at Thomas College in central Maine. Dr. Wilkins sits on the board of the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface forum (UEFI) and is active in several other international standards bodies (TCG, PCI-SIG, DMTF, ACPI, and others). He is a leader in the IEEE at the Section level and in the Computer Society and is active in the ACM and PMI. He has over 30 years' industry experience in roles from software engineer to director of engineering at companies like Hewlett-Packard, Digital Equipment Corp., Microsoft, Amazon.com and several smaller firms.
Prof. Wilkins holds a Ph.D. in Computer Science from Nova Southeastern University, Fort Lauderdale, FL; a Master of Science in Computer Science from the National Technological University, Fort Collins, CO and a Bachelor of Arts in Public Administration from Saint Thomas University, Miami, FL.
Michael Willett
Samsung
Dr. Willett received his Masters /PhD/mathematics from NC State University. After a career as a university professor of mathematics and computer science, Dr. Willett joined IBM as a design architect, moving into IBM's Cryptography Competency Center. Recently, Dr. Willett was a Senior Director at Seagate Research, focusing on security functionality on hard drives, including self-encryption. Currently, Dr. Willett serves as a consultant on the marketing of storage-based security. Presently, Dr. Willett is working with Samsung as a storage security strategist, helping to define their self-encryption strategy across Samsung's portfolio of storage products.
Laurie Williams
NC State
Monty Wiseman
Intel
Monty is currently a Security Architect for Intel's Datacenter and Connected Systems Group (DCSG). His current projects include architecture for TCG, Intel's Boot Guard, TXT(R) Technologies and other security initiatives. Monty has participated (and past chair of) the TCG PC Client working group which defines how the TPM attaches to the PC Client Platform and is Intel's representative in the TCG Technical Committee. Monty has 20 years' experience in Desktop, Network and Mainframe environments holding security related and other engineering positions at Novell, Fujitsu, and Control Data. Monty has been developing hardware and software for computers ranging from mainframe to microcomputers since 1975.
Duminda Wiuesekera
GMU
DARPA
David Waltermire
Security Automation Architect
NIST
David Waltermire is the specification architect for the Security Automation Program at the National Institute of Standards and Technology. Waltermire has been a significant contributor to the Security Content Automation Protocol (SCAP) and CAESARS-FE Continuous Monitoring projects. Prior to joining NIST, he worked as a security consultant where he focused on the advancement of security automation capabilities within the government sector. He comes from an operational background, having managed systems and network operations for internet service providers and also working as a software engineer pioneering the first standards-based configuration assessment tool. His research experience includes computer viruses, vulnerability/misconfiguration identification, categorization and remediation.
Kimberly Watson
Technical Leader
DHS
Ms. Watson has over 25 years of experience in Information Assurance technologies, analysis, mitigation, and measurement. She joined DHS last March and has been leading efforts to develop maturity measures, architectures, and CONOPs for Continous Diagnostics and Mitigation (CDM) capabilities.
Daniel Wiley
Check Point Software
Dick Wilkins
Phoenix
Richard "Dick" Wilkins is Principal Technology Liaison for Phoenix Technologies Ltd., a US-based independent boot firmware (BIOS) development company. He is also an Assistant Professor of Computer Science at Thomas College in central Maine. Dr. Wilkins sits on the board of the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface forum (UEFI) and is active in several other international standards bodies (TCG, PCI-SIG, DMTF, ACPI, and others). He is a leader in the IEEE at the Section level and in the Computer Society and is active in the ACM and PMI. He has over 30 years' industry experience in roles from software engineer to director of engineering at companies like Hewlett-Packard, Digital Equipment Corp., Microsoft, Amazon.com and several smaller firms.
Prof. Wilkins holds a Ph.D. in Computer Science from Nova Southeastern University, Fort Lauderdale, FL; a Master of Science in Computer Science from the National Technological University, Fort Collins, CO and a Bachelor of Arts in Public Administration from Saint Thomas University, Miami, FL.
Michael Willett
Samsung
Dr. Willett received his Masters /PhD/mathematics from NC State University. After a career as a university professor of mathematics and computer science, Dr. Willett joined IBM as a design architect, moving into IBM's Cryptography Competency Center. Recently, Dr. Willett was a Senior Director at Seagate Research, focusing on security functionality on hard drives, including self-encryption. Currently, Dr. Willett serves as a consultant on the marketing of storage-based security. Presently, Dr. Willett is working with Samsung as a storage security strategist, helping to define their self-encryption strategy across Samsung's portfolio of storage products.
Laurie Williams
NC State
Monty Wiseman
Intel
Monty is currently a Security Architect for Intel's Datacenter and Connected Systems Group (DCSG). His current projects include architecture for TCG, Intel's Boot Guard, TXT(R) Technologies and other security initiatives. Monty has participated (and past chair of) the TCG PC Client working group which defines how the TPM attaches to the PC Client Platform and is Intel's representative in the TCG Technical Committee. Monty has 20 years' experience in Desktop, Network and Mainframe environments holding security related and other engineering positions at Novell, Fujitsu, and Control Data. Monty has been developing hardware and software for computers ranging from mainframe to microcomputers since 1975.
Duminda Wiuesekera
GMU
21 January 2014 06:42
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Tomas Vagoun
NITRD CSIA
Leendert VanDoorn
AMD
Dr. van Doorn is a Corporate Fellow and Corporate Vice President at AMD where he is leading the Software Technology Office, an organization that was recently created to drive focused software initiatives around accelerated computing, managed code, virtualization, & security. Leendert is actively involved in AMD's future processor designs & product planning councils. Leendert holds a Ph.D. from the Vrije Universiteit in Amsterdam & has authored over 40 papers.
Phil Venables
Managing Director and Chief Information Risk Officer
Goldman Sachs
Phil Venables is the Chief Information Risk Officer at Goldman Sachs. He leads the Information Security, Technology Risk and Business Continuity Programs. He is part of the Technology Management Team, co-chairs the Business Resilience Committee and is a member of the Operational Risk Committee. Phil transferred to New York in 2001. He joined Goldman Sachs as a Vice President in 2000, and was named Managing Director in 2003 and Partner in 2010. Phil is a member of the BITS/FISAP Advisory Council, serves on the Committee of the US Financial Sector Security Coordinating Council, and is on the Board of Directors of the Center for Internet Security . Phil earned a BSc (Hons) in Computer Science from York University in the United Kingdom and an MSc in Computation from the Queen's College at Oxford University in 1990. Additionally, Philip was awarded the designation of Chartered Engineer in 1995 and Chartered Scientist in 2002. In 2005, he was elected a Fellow of the British Computer Society.
Steven Venema
Associate Technical Fellow
Boeing
Paul Vixie
CEO
Farsight Security, Inc.
Dr. Paul Vixie is the CEO of Farsight Security. He previously served as President, Chairman and Founder of Internet Systems Consortium (ISC), as President of MAPS, PAIX and MIBH, as CTO of Abovenet/MFN, and on the board of several for-profit and non-profit companies. He has served on the ARIN Board of Trustees since 2005, where he served as Chairman in 2008 and 2009, and is a founding member of ICANN Root Server System Advisory Committee (RSSAC) and ICANN Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC).
Vixie has been contributing to Internet protocols and UNIX systems as a protocol designer and software architect since 1980. He is considered the primary author and technical architect of BIND 8, and he hired many of the people who wrote BIND 9 and the people now working on BIND 10. He has authored or co-authored a dozen or so RFCs, mostly on DNS and related topics, and of Sendmail: Theory and Practice (Digital Press, 1994). He earned his Ph.D. from Keio University for work related to the Internet Domain Name System (DNS and DNSSEC).
NITRD CSIA
Leendert VanDoorn
AMD
Dr. van Doorn is a Corporate Fellow and Corporate Vice President at AMD where he is leading the Software Technology Office, an organization that was recently created to drive focused software initiatives around accelerated computing, managed code, virtualization, & security. Leendert is actively involved in AMD's future processor designs & product planning councils. Leendert holds a Ph.D. from the Vrije Universiteit in Amsterdam & has authored over 40 papers.
Phil Venables
Managing Director and Chief Information Risk Officer
Goldman Sachs
Phil Venables is the Chief Information Risk Officer at Goldman Sachs. He leads the Information Security, Technology Risk and Business Continuity Programs. He is part of the Technology Management Team, co-chairs the Business Resilience Committee and is a member of the Operational Risk Committee. Phil transferred to New York in 2001. He joined Goldman Sachs as a Vice President in 2000, and was named Managing Director in 2003 and Partner in 2010. Phil is a member of the BITS/FISAP Advisory Council, serves on the Committee of the US Financial Sector Security Coordinating Council, and is on the Board of Directors of the Center for Internet Security . Phil earned a BSc (Hons) in Computer Science from York University in the United Kingdom and an MSc in Computation from the Queen's College at Oxford University in 1990. Additionally, Philip was awarded the designation of Chartered Engineer in 1995 and Chartered Scientist in 2002. In 2005, he was elected a Fellow of the British Computer Society.
Steven Venema
Associate Technical Fellow
Boeing
Paul Vixie
CEO
Farsight Security, Inc.
Dr. Paul Vixie is the CEO of Farsight Security. He previously served as President, Chairman and Founder of Internet Systems Consortium (ISC), as President of MAPS, PAIX and MIBH, as CTO of Abovenet/MFN, and on the board of several for-profit and non-profit companies. He has served on the ARIN Board of Trustees since 2005, where he served as Chairman in 2008 and 2009, and is a founding member of ICANN Root Server System Advisory Committee (RSSAC) and ICANN Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC).
Vixie has been contributing to Internet protocols and UNIX systems as a protocol designer and software architect since 1980. He is considered the primary author and technical architect of BIND 8, and he hired many of the people who wrote BIND 9 and the people now working on BIND 10. He has authored or co-authored a dozen or so RFCs, mostly on DNS and related topics, and of Sendmail: Theory and Practice (Digital Press, 1994). He earned his Ph.D. from Keio University for work related to the Internet Domain Name System (DNS and DNSSEC).
21 January 2014 06:41
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Richard Struse
Chief Advanced Technology Officer, NCCIC
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Mr. Struse serves as the Chief Advanced Technology Officer for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's National Cybersecurity and Communications Integration Center (NCCIC) where he is responsible for technology vision, strategy and implementation in support of the NCCIC's mission. Prior to joining DHS, Mr. Struse was Vice President of Research and Development at VOXEM, Inc., where he was responsible for the architecture, design and development of a high-performance, extreme high-reliability communications software platform that is in use in telecommunications systems around the world. He began his technical career at Bell Laboratories where his work focused on tools to automate software development and the UNIX operating system.
Jim Su
General Dynamics
Dr. Jim J. Su has been involved in computer security, internet security, internetworking, wired and wireless communications since the 1980s when he studied for his PhD degree in electrical and computer engineering at the University of Arizona, Tucson. He started working at AT&T Bell Laboratories and was assigned to define the OSI (Open Systems Interconnection) Security Management Standard in 1988. Since then he has worked for General Dynamics Advanced Information Systems (GDAIS). While at General Dynamics, Jim first was assigned to support the Missile Defense National Team (MDNT-B) as a redundant network designer and resolve Information Assurance issues, next he worked at the DoD Cyber Crime Center (DC3) as a computer forensics examiner and senior research scientist, and currently he is at the Department of Homeland Seucurity (DHS) US Computer Emergency Readiness Team (US-CERT) as a cyber security analyst. He is interested in traditional detection-reaction-based reactive security methods and non-detection-based proactive security approaches. .
Stefan Thom
Microsoft
I'm Stefan Thom, a Senior Software Development Engineer and Security Architect for Microsoft in IEB Security. I have contributed in the past to Xbox One Console Security and Attestation, Windows BitLocker Drive Encryption, Windows Virtual Smart Card, Windows Attestation and Firmware TPM to name just some of them. I have filed over 27 patents for Microsoft over the years in this domain and am actively involved in standards organizations like the TCG. Before I came to Microsoft 11 years ago, I got my formal education in Germany and worked in Germany, Austria and Canada.
It is my personal goal to increase the customers trust in the platform and confidentiality of secrets by applying strong hardware rooted security. Microsoft has given me the opportunity to improve the devices and services to create of strong, tamperproof identities and the ability to do remote attestation of the OS and it's configuration. My 20 Years of industry experience allowed me to develop a broad perspective of what has and has not worked in the past and put my focus on lasting security improvements for the consumer.
Other than being a total technology geek, I enjoy baking bread, brewing beer and making cheese in my spare time.
Scott W. Tousley
Deputy Director, Cyber Security Division
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Keith Trippie
Executive Director
DHS OCIO
Chief Advanced Technology Officer, NCCIC
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Mr. Struse serves as the Chief Advanced Technology Officer for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's National Cybersecurity and Communications Integration Center (NCCIC) where he is responsible for technology vision, strategy and implementation in support of the NCCIC's mission. Prior to joining DHS, Mr. Struse was Vice President of Research and Development at VOXEM, Inc., where he was responsible for the architecture, design and development of a high-performance, extreme high-reliability communications software platform that is in use in telecommunications systems around the world. He began his technical career at Bell Laboratories where his work focused on tools to automate software development and the UNIX operating system.
Jim Su
General Dynamics
Dr. Jim J. Su has been involved in computer security, internet security, internetworking, wired and wireless communications since the 1980s when he studied for his PhD degree in electrical and computer engineering at the University of Arizona, Tucson. He started working at AT&T Bell Laboratories and was assigned to define the OSI (Open Systems Interconnection) Security Management Standard in 1988. Since then he has worked for General Dynamics Advanced Information Systems (GDAIS). While at General Dynamics, Jim first was assigned to support the Missile Defense National Team (MDNT-B) as a redundant network designer and resolve Information Assurance issues, next he worked at the DoD Cyber Crime Center (DC3) as a computer forensics examiner and senior research scientist, and currently he is at the Department of Homeland Seucurity (DHS) US Computer Emergency Readiness Team (US-CERT) as a cyber security analyst. He is interested in traditional detection-reaction-based reactive security methods and non-detection-based proactive security approaches. .
Stefan Thom
Microsoft
I'm Stefan Thom, a Senior Software Development Engineer and Security Architect for Microsoft in IEB Security. I have contributed in the past to Xbox One Console Security and Attestation, Windows BitLocker Drive Encryption, Windows Virtual Smart Card, Windows Attestation and Firmware TPM to name just some of them. I have filed over 27 patents for Microsoft over the years in this domain and am actively involved in standards organizations like the TCG. Before I came to Microsoft 11 years ago, I got my formal education in Germany and worked in Germany, Austria and Canada.
It is my personal goal to increase the customers trust in the platform and confidentiality of secrets by applying strong hardware rooted security. Microsoft has given me the opportunity to improve the devices and services to create of strong, tamperproof identities and the ability to do remote attestation of the OS and it's configuration. My 20 Years of industry experience allowed me to develop a broad perspective of what has and has not worked in the past and put my focus on lasting security improvements for the consumer.
Other than being a total technology geek, I enjoy baking bread, brewing beer and making cheese in my spare time.
Scott W. Tousley
Deputy Director, Cyber Security Division
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Keith Trippie
Executive Director
DHS OCIO
21 January 2014 06:41
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Rob Spiger
Microsoft
Rob Spiger is a Senior Security Strategist working in Microsoft's Trustworthy Computing Team working to advance Trusted Platform Module adoption. For the previous five years, Rob worked as a Senior Program Manager on the Windows security team, focused on the TPM and how it is used in PC Client platforms. At ten year veteran of Microsoft, Rob also has industry experience from Avanade, Advanced Technical Resources and Lockheed Martin.
Roberta "Bobbie" Stempfley
Deputy Assistant Secretary
Office of Cybersecurity and Communications
Acting Assistant Secretary and Deputy Assistant Secretary
Office of Cybersecurity and Communications
National Protections and Programs Directorate
Department of Homeland Security
Roberta "Bobbie" Stempfley is the Acting Assistant Secretary of the Office of Cybersecurity and Communications (CS&C), where she plays a leading role in developing the strategic direction for CS&C and its five divisions. Ms. Stempfley also serves as the permanent Deputy Assistant Secretary for CS&C.
Prior to her work at CS&C, Ms. Stempfley served as the Chief Information Officer for the Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA), a major Department of Defense (DOD) agency, where she was responsible for supporting the Director in decision making; strategy development and communication; aligning DISA program execution with planning, engineering, acquisition, fielding and support of global-net-centric solutions; operating the Global Information Grid; information assurance; and management of DISA information technology resources.
Ms. Stempfley has received numerous awards for her government service, including:
• Information Week, Top 50 Government CIOs
• 2002 DISA Technical Team of the Year for DOD-CERT
• Director's Special Act award for service during Quadrennial Defense Review
• Nominee, Women-in Technology Leadership in the Government
• Federal Computer Weekly's 2013 Federal 100
Ms. Stempfley received a Bachelor of Science degree in Engineering Mathematics from the University of Arizona and a Master of Science in Computer Science from James Madison University. She has also completed a National Security Management Certification, Acquisition for Senior Leaders.
Ed Stoner
Senior Member of the Technical Staff
CERT/CC
John Streufert
Director, Federal Network Resilience Division
DHS
As the Director of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)'s Federal Network Resilience (FNR) Division, Mr. Streufert leads DHS's efforts to boost the security, resilience, and reliability of the nation's IT and communications infrastructure. FNR has implemented contracts for continuous monitoring as a service to Federal, state and local governments, and for security dashboards to inform and prioritize cyber risk assessments across the government. Previously, Mr. Streufert served as the Department of State's Chief Information Security Officer and the Deputy Chief Information Officer for Information Security. Mr. Streufert also worked at the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), where he held several positions, including acting Chief Information Officer.
Microsoft
Rob Spiger is a Senior Security Strategist working in Microsoft's Trustworthy Computing Team working to advance Trusted Platform Module adoption. For the previous five years, Rob worked as a Senior Program Manager on the Windows security team, focused on the TPM and how it is used in PC Client platforms. At ten year veteran of Microsoft, Rob also has industry experience from Avanade, Advanced Technical Resources and Lockheed Martin.
Roberta "Bobbie" Stempfley
Deputy Assistant Secretary
Office of Cybersecurity and Communications
Acting Assistant Secretary and Deputy Assistant Secretary
Office of Cybersecurity and Communications
National Protections and Programs Directorate
Department of Homeland Security
Roberta "Bobbie" Stempfley is the Acting Assistant Secretary of the Office of Cybersecurity and Communications (CS&C), where she plays a leading role in developing the strategic direction for CS&C and its five divisions. Ms. Stempfley also serves as the permanent Deputy Assistant Secretary for CS&C.
Prior to her work at CS&C, Ms. Stempfley served as the Chief Information Officer for the Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA), a major Department of Defense (DOD) agency, where she was responsible for supporting the Director in decision making; strategy development and communication; aligning DISA program execution with planning, engineering, acquisition, fielding and support of global-net-centric solutions; operating the Global Information Grid; information assurance; and management of DISA information technology resources.
Ms. Stempfley has received numerous awards for her government service, including:
• Information Week, Top 50 Government CIOs
• 2002 DISA Technical Team of the Year for DOD-CERT
• Director's Special Act award for service during Quadrennial Defense Review
• Nominee, Women-in Technology Leadership in the Government
• Federal Computer Weekly's 2013 Federal 100
Ms. Stempfley received a Bachelor of Science degree in Engineering Mathematics from the University of Arizona and a Master of Science in Computer Science from James Madison University. She has also completed a National Security Management Certification, Acquisition for Senior Leaders.
Ed Stoner
Senior Member of the Technical Staff
CERT/CC
John Streufert
Director, Federal Network Resilience Division
DHS
As the Director of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)'s Federal Network Resilience (FNR) Division, Mr. Streufert leads DHS's efforts to boost the security, resilience, and reliability of the nation's IT and communications infrastructure. FNR has implemented contracts for continuous monitoring as a service to Federal, state and local governments, and for security dashboards to inform and prioritize cyber risk assessments across the government. Previously, Mr. Streufert served as the Department of State's Chief Information Security Officer and the Deputy Chief Information Officer for Information Security. Mr. Streufert also worked at the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), where he held several positions, including acting Chief Information Officer.
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Phyllis Schneck
Deputy Under Secretary for Cybersecurity
National Protection and Programs Directorate (NPPD), DHS
Dr. Phyllis Schneck serves as the Deputy Under Secretary for Cybersecurity for the National Protection and Programs Directorate (NPPD). She is the chief cybersecurity official for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and supports its mission of strengthening the security and resilience of the nation's critical infrastructure. Dr. Schneck came to DHS from McAfee, Inc., where she was Chief Technology Officer for Global Public Sector. Named one of Information Security Magazine's Top 25 Women Leaders in Information Security, Dr. Schneck has briefed numerous foreign governments on information sharing and infrastructure protection, has worked with the United Kingdom infrastructure protection and cybersecurity authorities on U.S. partnership, and moderated the White House Town Hall Meeting in Atlanta to assist with development of the 2003 National Strategy to Secure Cyberspace. She holds seven information security patents and has authored six research publications in the areas of information security, real-time systems, telecommunications and software engineering. Dr. Schneck received her Ph.D. in computer science from Georgia Tech, and pioneered the field of information security and security-based high-performance computing at Georgia Tech.Hopkins University Department of Computer Science, served on the Steering Committee for the Sam Nunn Information Security Forum as well as a term on the Georgia Tech Advisory Board, and co-founded the Georgia Tech Information Security Center and the Georgia Electronic Commerce Association's Working Group on Information Security.
Phyllis received her Ph.D. in Computer Science from Georgia Tech. She has held various information science technical positions with CygnaCom Solutions, the MITRE Corporation, Computer Sciences Corporation, IBM Systems Integration Division, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, and the University Of Maryland Department of Meteorology.
Matt Scholl
Deputy Division Chief, Computer Security Division
NIST
Matthew Scholl has History and Computer Science degrees from the University of Richmond and an Masters of Information Systems from the University of Maryland. Prior to Joining NIST Mr. Scholl was a commander in the US Army Infantry and Armored Cavalry serving in several positions both overseas and in the continental United States. After leaving the military he was a Configuration Manager and Quality Assurance Specialist for software development safety of flight systems. Mr. Scholl also worked as a contractor designing and developing systems for the USDA, and DOD. Most recently he worked in several federal agencies providing support for FISMA compliance programs and conducting operational security from policy development to technical implementations and assessments.
Mr. Scholl is a CISSP and a certified ISO 9000:2000 Quality System Auditor. He currently works in the NIST Computer Security Division and his publications include SP 800-88 and SP 800-30-1.
Atul Shah
Microsoft
Atul Shah is a Senior Security Strategist at Microsoft Corporation. With 15+ years of experience in IT security industry, he has been involved in several aspects of IT security from product development to managing core IT infrastructure services for Microsoft's global business. Today, Atul drives the End to End Trust initiative, which seeks to create a safer, more trusted internet. His efforts include creating trusted mechanisms for evaluating and attesting to the state of the devices connecting to the internet, investigating and solving cloud related security, privacy and jurisdictional issues that impact businesses and consumers. Atul is a frequent public speaker on strategies for reducing Internet threats such as identity theft, improving device health and proactive protection strategies to reduce the risks of malware.16
Deputy Under Secretary for Cybersecurity
National Protection and Programs Directorate (NPPD), DHS
Dr. Phyllis Schneck serves as the Deputy Under Secretary for Cybersecurity for the National Protection and Programs Directorate (NPPD). She is the chief cybersecurity official for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and supports its mission of strengthening the security and resilience of the nation's critical infrastructure. Dr. Schneck came to DHS from McAfee, Inc., where she was Chief Technology Officer for Global Public Sector. Named one of Information Security Magazine's Top 25 Women Leaders in Information Security, Dr. Schneck has briefed numerous foreign governments on information sharing and infrastructure protection, has worked with the United Kingdom infrastructure protection and cybersecurity authorities on U.S. partnership, and moderated the White House Town Hall Meeting in Atlanta to assist with development of the 2003 National Strategy to Secure Cyberspace. She holds seven information security patents and has authored six research publications in the areas of information security, real-time systems, telecommunications and software engineering. Dr. Schneck received her Ph.D. in computer science from Georgia Tech, and pioneered the field of information security and security-based high-performance computing at Georgia Tech.Hopkins University Department of Computer Science, served on the Steering Committee for the Sam Nunn Information Security Forum as well as a term on the Georgia Tech Advisory Board, and co-founded the Georgia Tech Information Security Center and the Georgia Electronic Commerce Association's Working Group on Information Security.
Phyllis received her Ph.D. in Computer Science from Georgia Tech. She has held various information science technical positions with CygnaCom Solutions, the MITRE Corporation, Computer Sciences Corporation, IBM Systems Integration Division, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, and the University Of Maryland Department of Meteorology.
Matt Scholl
Deputy Division Chief, Computer Security Division
NIST
Matthew Scholl has History and Computer Science degrees from the University of Richmond and an Masters of Information Systems from the University of Maryland. Prior to Joining NIST Mr. Scholl was a commander in the US Army Infantry and Armored Cavalry serving in several positions both overseas and in the continental United States. After leaving the military he was a Configuration Manager and Quality Assurance Specialist for software development safety of flight systems. Mr. Scholl also worked as a contractor designing and developing systems for the USDA, and DOD. Most recently he worked in several federal agencies providing support for FISMA compliance programs and conducting operational security from policy development to technical implementations and assessments.
Mr. Scholl is a CISSP and a certified ISO 9000:2000 Quality System Auditor. He currently works in the NIST Computer Security Division and his publications include SP 800-88 and SP 800-30-1.
Atul Shah
Microsoft
Atul Shah is a Senior Security Strategist at Microsoft Corporation. With 15+ years of experience in IT security industry, he has been involved in several aspects of IT security from product development to managing core IT infrastructure services for Microsoft's global business. Today, Atul drives the End to End Trust initiative, which seeks to create a safer, more trusted internet. His efforts include creating trusted mechanisms for evaluating and attesting to the state of the devices connecting to the internet, investigating and solving cloud related security, privacy and jurisdictional issues that impact businesses and consumers. Atul is a frequent public speaker on strategies for reducing Internet threats such as identity theft, improving device health and proactive protection strategies to reduce the risks of malware.16
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Ron Ross
Fellow
NIST
on Ross is a Fellow at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). His current focus areas include information security and risk management. Dr. Ross leads the Federal Information Security Management Act (FISMA) Implementation Project, which includes the development of security standards and guidelines for the federal government, contractors, and the United States critical information infrastructure. His recent publications include Federal Information Processing Standards (FIPS) Publication 199 (security categorization standard), FIPS Publication 200 (security requirements standard), NIST Special Publication (SP) 800-39 (risk management guideline), NIST SP 800-53 (security and privacy controls guideline), NIST SP 800-53A (security assessment guideline), NIST SP 800-37 (security authorization guideline), and NIST SP 800-30 (risk assessment guideline). Dr. Ross is the principal architect of the Risk Management Framework and multi-tiered approach that provides a disciplined and structured methodology for integrating the suite of FISMA standards and guidelines into a comprehensive enterprise-wide security program. Dr. Ross also leads the Joint Task Force Transformation Initiative, an interagency partnership (including NIST, the Department of Defense, the Office of the Director National Intelligence, and the Committee on National Security Systems) that developed a unified information security framework for the federal government.
In addition to his responsibilities at NIST, Dr. Ross supports the U.S. State Department in the international outreach program for information security and critical infrastructure protection. Dr. Ross previously served as the Director of the National Information Assurance Partnership, a joint activity of NIST and the National Security Agency. A graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point, Dr. Ross served in many leadership and technical positions during his twenty-year career in the United States Army. While assigned to the National Security Agency, Dr. Ross received the Scientific Achievement Award for his work on an inter-agency national security project and was awarded the Defense Superior Service Medal upon his departure from the agency. Dr. Ross is a three-time recipient of the Federal 100 award for his leadership and technical contributions to critical information security projects affecting the federal government and is a recipient of the Department of Commerce Gold and Silver Medal Awards. Dr. Ross has been inducted into the Information Systems Security Association (ISSA) Hall of Fame and given its highest honor of ISSA Distinguished Fellow. Dr. Ross has also received many private sector information security awards and recognition including the Applied Computer Security Associates (ACSA) Distinguished Practitioner Award, the Vanguard Chairman's Award, the Symantec Cyber 7 Award, InformationWeek's Government CIO 50 Award, Best of GTRA Award, ISACA National Capital Area Conyers Award, SC Magazine's Cyber Security Luminaries, (ISC)2 Inaugural Lynn F. McNulty Tribute Award, and the Top 10 Influencers in Government IT Security. During his military career, Dr. Ross served as a White House aide and as a senior technical advisor to the Department of the Army. Dr. Ross is a graduate of the Defense Systems Management College and holds Masters and Ph.D. degrees in Computer Science from the U.S. Naval Postgraduate School specializing in artificial intelligence and robotics.
Tony Sager
Council on CyberSecurity
William Sanders
Illinois
Bill Scherlis
CMU
Fellow
NIST
on Ross is a Fellow at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). His current focus areas include information security and risk management. Dr. Ross leads the Federal Information Security Management Act (FISMA) Implementation Project, which includes the development of security standards and guidelines for the federal government, contractors, and the United States critical information infrastructure. His recent publications include Federal Information Processing Standards (FIPS) Publication 199 (security categorization standard), FIPS Publication 200 (security requirements standard), NIST Special Publication (SP) 800-39 (risk management guideline), NIST SP 800-53 (security and privacy controls guideline), NIST SP 800-53A (security assessment guideline), NIST SP 800-37 (security authorization guideline), and NIST SP 800-30 (risk assessment guideline). Dr. Ross is the principal architect of the Risk Management Framework and multi-tiered approach that provides a disciplined and structured methodology for integrating the suite of FISMA standards and guidelines into a comprehensive enterprise-wide security program. Dr. Ross also leads the Joint Task Force Transformation Initiative, an interagency partnership (including NIST, the Department of Defense, the Office of the Director National Intelligence, and the Committee on National Security Systems) that developed a unified information security framework for the federal government.
In addition to his responsibilities at NIST, Dr. Ross supports the U.S. State Department in the international outreach program for information security and critical infrastructure protection. Dr. Ross previously served as the Director of the National Information Assurance Partnership, a joint activity of NIST and the National Security Agency. A graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point, Dr. Ross served in many leadership and technical positions during his twenty-year career in the United States Army. While assigned to the National Security Agency, Dr. Ross received the Scientific Achievement Award for his work on an inter-agency national security project and was awarded the Defense Superior Service Medal upon his departure from the agency. Dr. Ross is a three-time recipient of the Federal 100 award for his leadership and technical contributions to critical information security projects affecting the federal government and is a recipient of the Department of Commerce Gold and Silver Medal Awards. Dr. Ross has been inducted into the Information Systems Security Association (ISSA) Hall of Fame and given its highest honor of ISSA Distinguished Fellow. Dr. Ross has also received many private sector information security awards and recognition including the Applied Computer Security Associates (ACSA) Distinguished Practitioner Award, the Vanguard Chairman's Award, the Symantec Cyber 7 Award, InformationWeek's Government CIO 50 Award, Best of GTRA Award, ISACA National Capital Area Conyers Award, SC Magazine's Cyber Security Luminaries, (ISC)2 Inaugural Lynn F. McNulty Tribute Award, and the Top 10 Influencers in Government IT Security. During his military career, Dr. Ross served as a White House aide and as a senior technical advisor to the Department of the Army. Dr. Ross is a graduate of the Defense Systems Management College and holds Masters and Ph.D. degrees in Computer Science from the U.S. Naval Postgraduate School specializing in artificial intelligence and robotics.
Tony Sager
Council on CyberSecurity
William Sanders
Illinois
Bill Scherlis
CMU
21 January 2014 06:40
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Hemma Prafullchandra
Hytrust, Inc
Tim Rains
Director of Trustworthy Computing group
Microsoft
Tim Rains is a Director in Microsoft's Trustworthy Computing group responsible for managing marketing and communications that span Microsoft's boxed and cloud products as they relate to security and reliability.
Tim manages marketing and communications for the Microsoft Security Response Center (MSRC), the Microsoft Malware Protection Center, and the Microsoft Security Engineering Center which includes the Security Development Lifecycle (SDL). Tim also manages marketing communications for Microsoft's Global Security Strategy and Diplomacy team which works collaboratively with governments, multilateral organizations, industry, and non-profit groups around the world to enhance cybersecurity across the online ecosystem. Among other things, his team manages the Microsoft Security Intelligence Report (www.microsoft.com/sir) which provides an in-depth analysis on the global threat landscape.
In his early years at Microsoft, Tim served in several roles including Program Manager in the Windows Networking team - Core Operating Systems Division, Technical Lead on Microsoft's customer facing Security Incident Response team in Product Support Services and Technical Lead on the Product Support Services Windows Server Networking team. Tim has an MBA, BA, and holds several technical certifications including a CISSP.
Andrew Regenscheid
NIST
Andrew Regenscheid is the lead for Hardware-Rooted Security in the Computer Security Division at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). At NIST, Mr. Regenscheid is responsible for leading research and guidelines development activities on the use of roots of trust to secure computer systems. A current focus area for this work is using roots of trust to support key security capabilities in mobile devices. As part of that work, Mr. Regenscheid authored NIST SP 800-164, Guidelines on Hardware-Rooted Security in Mobile Devices.
Mr. Regenscheid previously authored NIST SP 800-147, BIOS Protection Guidelines, which provides security guidelines for preventing the unauthorized modification of BIOS firmware on PC client systems, and continues to lead NIST1s firmware security efforts. As part of the Cryptographic Technology Group, Mr. Regenscheid contributes to NIST1s cryptographic algorithm standardization efforts, particularly in the areas of hash functions and public key crypto systems.
Mr. Regenscheid holds a B.A. in Mathematics and Computer Science from Luther College, and a M.S. in Information Assurance from Iowa State University.
Edward Rhyne
DHS, S&T Cyber Security Division
Ian Roberts
NSA
Chuck Romine
Director of the Information Technology Laboratory
NIST
Charles Romine is Director of the Information Technology Laboratory (ITL). ITL is one of six research Laboratories within the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) with an annual budget of $120 million, more than 350 employees, and about 160 guest researchers from industry, universities, and foreign laboratories.
Romine oversees a research program designed to promote U.S. innovation and industrial competitiveness by developing and disseminating standards, measurements, and testing for interoperability, security, usability, and reliability of information systems, including cybersecurity standards and guidelines for Federal agencies and U.S. industry, supporting these and measurement science at NIST through fundamental and applied research in computer science, mathematics, and statistics. Through its efforts, ITL supports NIST's mission to promote U.S. innovation and industrial competitiveness by advancing measurement science, standards, and technology in ways that enhance economic security and improve our quality of life.
Within NIST's traditional role as the overseer of the National Measurement System, ITL is conducting research addressing measurement challenges in information technology as well as issues of information and software quality, integrity, and usability. ITL is also charged with leading the nation in using existing and emerging IT to help meet national priorities, including developing cybersecurity standards, guidelines, and associated methods and techniques, cloud computing, electronic voting, smart grid, homeland security applications, and health information technology
Hytrust, Inc
Tim Rains
Director of Trustworthy Computing group
Microsoft
Tim Rains is a Director in Microsoft's Trustworthy Computing group responsible for managing marketing and communications that span Microsoft's boxed and cloud products as they relate to security and reliability.
Tim manages marketing and communications for the Microsoft Security Response Center (MSRC), the Microsoft Malware Protection Center, and the Microsoft Security Engineering Center which includes the Security Development Lifecycle (SDL). Tim also manages marketing communications for Microsoft's Global Security Strategy and Diplomacy team which works collaboratively with governments, multilateral organizations, industry, and non-profit groups around the world to enhance cybersecurity across the online ecosystem. Among other things, his team manages the Microsoft Security Intelligence Report (www.microsoft.com/sir) which provides an in-depth analysis on the global threat landscape.
In his early years at Microsoft, Tim served in several roles including Program Manager in the Windows Networking team - Core Operating Systems Division, Technical Lead on Microsoft's customer facing Security Incident Response team in Product Support Services and Technical Lead on the Product Support Services Windows Server Networking team. Tim has an MBA, BA, and holds several technical certifications including a CISSP.
Andrew Regenscheid
NIST
Andrew Regenscheid is the lead for Hardware-Rooted Security in the Computer Security Division at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). At NIST, Mr. Regenscheid is responsible for leading research and guidelines development activities on the use of roots of trust to secure computer systems. A current focus area for this work is using roots of trust to support key security capabilities in mobile devices. As part of that work, Mr. Regenscheid authored NIST SP 800-164, Guidelines on Hardware-Rooted Security in Mobile Devices.
Mr. Regenscheid previously authored NIST SP 800-147, BIOS Protection Guidelines, which provides security guidelines for preventing the unauthorized modification of BIOS firmware on PC client systems, and continues to lead NIST1s firmware security efforts. As part of the Cryptographic Technology Group, Mr. Regenscheid contributes to NIST1s cryptographic algorithm standardization efforts, particularly in the areas of hash functions and public key crypto systems.
Mr. Regenscheid holds a B.A. in Mathematics and Computer Science from Luther College, and a M.S. in Information Assurance from Iowa State University.
Edward Rhyne
DHS, S&T Cyber Security Division
Ian Roberts
NSA
Chuck Romine
Director of the Information Technology Laboratory
NIST
Charles Romine is Director of the Information Technology Laboratory (ITL). ITL is one of six research Laboratories within the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) with an annual budget of $120 million, more than 350 employees, and about 160 guest researchers from industry, universities, and foreign laboratories.
Romine oversees a research program designed to promote U.S. innovation and industrial competitiveness by developing and disseminating standards, measurements, and testing for interoperability, security, usability, and reliability of information systems, including cybersecurity standards and guidelines for Federal agencies and U.S. industry, supporting these and measurement science at NIST through fundamental and applied research in computer science, mathematics, and statistics. Through its efforts, ITL supports NIST's mission to promote U.S. innovation and industrial competitiveness by advancing measurement science, standards, and technology in ways that enhance economic security and improve our quality of life.
Within NIST's traditional role as the overseer of the National Measurement System, ITL is conducting research addressing measurement challenges in information technology as well as issues of information and software quality, integrity, and usability. ITL is also charged with leading the nation in using existing and emerging IT to help meet national priorities, including developing cybersecurity standards, guidelines, and associated methods and techniques, cloud computing, electronic voting, smart grid, homeland security applications, and health information technology
http://www.microsoft.com/sir
21 January 2014 06:39
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Bill Newhouse
NIST
Bill Newhouse is a cybersecurity program manager in the Security Outreach and Integration Group in Computer Security Division which is part of the Information Technology Laboratory at the National Institute of Standards and Technology. Mr. Newhouse is the program lead for the NIST team leading the National Initiative for Cybersecurity Education (NICE), an effort with over 20 Federal partners, academia, and industry to improve the cyber behavior, skills, and knowledge of every segment of the population, enabling a safer cyberspace. Mr. Newhouse represents NIST on many interagency and public-private partnerships. He currently co-chairs the Networking and Information Technology R&D Cyber Security and Information Assurance Interagency Working Group that was principally responsible for the Strategic Plan for the Federal Cybersecurity Research and Development Program published in 2011. For FY14, Mr. Newhouse is on detail to the NIST program coordination office providing support to the NIST Director and Associate Directors, working closely with all NIST organizations across Laboratory Programs, Innovation and Industry Services, and Management Resources.
Before coming to NIST, Bill spent five years in the Office of the Secretary of Defense where he worked initially with the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering (ASD(R&E) and then with the Office of the Chief Information Officer for Identity and Information Assurance focused on cybersecurity R&D. Bill was part of the Defense Venture Catalyst Initiative (DeVenCI) using it to focus on cybersecurity. He led the effort to build a collaborative space known as IA Connect where the DoD cybersecurity workforce could share their combined experience regarding products and vendors. Mr. Newhouse is a graduate of both the Georgia Institute of Technology and George Washington University and has been with the federal government for over 26 years.
David Nicol
Illinois
Steve Orrin
Intel Federal, LLC
Ron Perez
AMD
Gregg Piermarini
Dep CIO, DHS S&T
Robert Pittman
CISO
County of Los Angeles
Dr. Pittman is the County of Los Angeles (County) Chief Information Security Officer (CISO), appointed by the Board of Supervisors' on September 2008 for the largest populous county in this great nation. Previously, he was second-in-command serving as the Assistant CISO for 5 ½ years and has over thirty years of Information Technology experience with the majority being in information security.
On February 29, 2012, he was awarded CSO of the Year by the Info Security Products Guide 2012 Global Excellence Awards presented in San Francisco, CA.
Dr. Pittman completed his Doctoral degree in Public Policy at the University of Southern California (USC) with specialization in organizational behavior and culture. His Doctoral and Masters of Public Administration degree was earned with academic honors.
Dr. Pittman is a frequent speaker and presenter at numerous information security and Chief Information Officer's forums. In February 2013, he was the Keynote Speaker at the annual RSA Conference and Trusted Computing Group in San Francisco. Most recently, he presented the County's Cyber Incident Response Plan at the High Technology Crime Investigation Association (HTCIA) International Conference 1st Annual CISO Summit on September 12 2013 in Nevada.
He has published many book chapters in the annual Information Security Management Handbook series by Auerbach Publications sixth edition - volume 7 (published September 2013), volume 6 (2012), volume 5 (2011), and volume 4 (2010).
Lastly, he serves on many advisory boards and committees: elected member to the Multi-State Information Sharing Analysis Center (MS-ISAC) Executive Committee (elected to a two-year term), California Counties Information Systems Director's Association (CCISDA) Information Security Forum, Los Angeles Electronic Crimes Task Force, CISO Governing Body, Los Angeles Digital Government Advisory Board, ISSA active member, CSUDH College of Business Administration and Public Policy Advisory Board, and the CSUDH Public Administration Committee Chair, to name a few.
Stanley Potter
Trusted Computing Technical Lead
NSA
Mr. Stanley Potter graduated from the University of North Alabama in 1983 with a Bachelor's degree in Mathematics and from the University of Alabama in 1985 with a Master's degree in Mathematics. The National Security Agency has employed him as a Research Mathematician since1985. He joined the Trusted Computing Group in 2005 where he contributes to the specifications of Trusted Computing technologies and promotes strategies for its widespread adoption.
Michael Pozmantier
DHS, S&T Cyber Security Division
NIST
Bill Newhouse is a cybersecurity program manager in the Security Outreach and Integration Group in Computer Security Division which is part of the Information Technology Laboratory at the National Institute of Standards and Technology. Mr. Newhouse is the program lead for the NIST team leading the National Initiative for Cybersecurity Education (NICE), an effort with over 20 Federal partners, academia, and industry to improve the cyber behavior, skills, and knowledge of every segment of the population, enabling a safer cyberspace. Mr. Newhouse represents NIST on many interagency and public-private partnerships. He currently co-chairs the Networking and Information Technology R&D Cyber Security and Information Assurance Interagency Working Group that was principally responsible for the Strategic Plan for the Federal Cybersecurity Research and Development Program published in 2011. For FY14, Mr. Newhouse is on detail to the NIST program coordination office providing support to the NIST Director and Associate Directors, working closely with all NIST organizations across Laboratory Programs, Innovation and Industry Services, and Management Resources.
Before coming to NIST, Bill spent five years in the Office of the Secretary of Defense where he worked initially with the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering (ASD(R&E) and then with the Office of the Chief Information Officer for Identity and Information Assurance focused on cybersecurity R&D. Bill was part of the Defense Venture Catalyst Initiative (DeVenCI) using it to focus on cybersecurity. He led the effort to build a collaborative space known as IA Connect where the DoD cybersecurity workforce could share their combined experience regarding products and vendors. Mr. Newhouse is a graduate of both the Georgia Institute of Technology and George Washington University and has been with the federal government for over 26 years.
David Nicol
Illinois
Steve Orrin
Intel Federal, LLC
Ron Perez
AMD
Gregg Piermarini
Dep CIO, DHS S&T
Robert Pittman
CISO
County of Los Angeles
Dr. Pittman is the County of Los Angeles (County) Chief Information Security Officer (CISO), appointed by the Board of Supervisors' on September 2008 for the largest populous county in this great nation. Previously, he was second-in-command serving as the Assistant CISO for 5 ½ years and has over thirty years of Information Technology experience with the majority being in information security.
On February 29, 2012, he was awarded CSO of the Year by the Info Security Products Guide 2012 Global Excellence Awards presented in San Francisco, CA.
Dr. Pittman completed his Doctoral degree in Public Policy at the University of Southern California (USC) with specialization in organizational behavior and culture. His Doctoral and Masters of Public Administration degree was earned with academic honors.
Dr. Pittman is a frequent speaker and presenter at numerous information security and Chief Information Officer's forums. In February 2013, he was the Keynote Speaker at the annual RSA Conference and Trusted Computing Group in San Francisco. Most recently, he presented the County's Cyber Incident Response Plan at the High Technology Crime Investigation Association (HTCIA) International Conference 1st Annual CISO Summit on September 12 2013 in Nevada.
He has published many book chapters in the annual Information Security Management Handbook series by Auerbach Publications sixth edition - volume 7 (published September 2013), volume 6 (2012), volume 5 (2011), and volume 4 (2010).
Lastly, he serves on many advisory boards and committees: elected member to the Multi-State Information Sharing Analysis Center (MS-ISAC) Executive Committee (elected to a two-year term), California Counties Information Systems Director's Association (CCISDA) Information Security Forum, Los Angeles Electronic Crimes Task Force, CISO Governing Body, Los Angeles Digital Government Advisory Board, ISSA active member, CSUDH College of Business Administration and Public Policy Advisory Board, and the CSUDH Public Administration Committee Chair, to name a few.
Stanley Potter
Trusted Computing Technical Lead
NSA
Mr. Stanley Potter graduated from the University of North Alabama in 1983 with a Bachelor's degree in Mathematics and from the University of Alabama in 1985 with a Master's degree in Mathematics. The National Security Agency has employed him as a Research Mathematician since1985. He joined the Trusted Computing Group in 2005 where he contributes to the specifications of Trusted Computing technologies and promotes strategies for its widespread adoption.
Michael Pozmantier
DHS, S&T Cyber Security Division
21 January 2014 06:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Dave Marcus
Director of Security Research
McAfee
Dave Marcus currently serves as Director of Advanced Research and Threat Intelligence for McAfeer Labs, focusing on bringing McAfee's extensive security research and global threat intelligence to McAfee's customers and the greater security community. Mr. Marcus' current focus at McAfee Labs includes advanced research, threat intelligence projects, media, and thought leadership responsibilities including social media technology engagement and research. He is also co-host of AudioParasitics - The Official PodCast of McAfee Labs. Mr. Marcus also has responsibilities for all publications from McAfee Labs, such as the Labs' journal of security vision The McAfee Security Journal as well as its Quarterly Threat Report and yearly Threat Predictions. Prior to joining McAfee, Mr. Marcus has held leadership and consulting positions focusing on information technology security services, network and host intrusion analysis, forensic analysis and testimony, threat research & countermeasures, and has provided professional consulting services. His industry experience crosses all IT-based industries with a determined focus on advanced intelligence gathering, digital forensic analysis, as well as intrusion detection/prevention and analysis on both the network and host. Mr. Marcus is also a Qualified Expert Witness in Computer Forensics and Computer Security as well as being one of the most highly sought after speakers on all levels of information security. Mr. Marcus has provided solutions, consulting and training in the following areas:
• Malware and Threat Collection and Analysis
• Information Security Communications Through Social Media
• Open Source Intelligence Gathering and Analysis
• Vulnerability Assessments and Penetration Testing
• Computer Incident and Emergency Response
• Secure Network Architecture Design
• Risk and Compliance Policies and Procedures
• Hacktivism and Hacktivist Activities
• Cybercrime Activities and Response
• Computer Forensics, Electronic Data Preservation, Management and Discovery Services
• Expert Witness Services
Mr. Marcus has worked for Ajilon Consulting, SmartForce The E-Learning Company, cbtSystems, HAS, Inc., CompuSOLVE, Inc., and prior to joining McAfee served as President and Senior Security Engineer of SecureNET's Network Security Practice. In his spare time he collects guitars, is an avid powerlifter and is also a founding keyholder of Unallocated Space, a Maryland Hackerspace. He also enjoys practicing the art of lock-picking and is a hacker of things.
Brad Martin
NSA
Rick Martinez
Dell
Rick Martinez is a BIOS Security Architect at Dell working with internal and external customers on the strategy, development, and deployment of BIOS Security infrastructure and solutions for Dell Client BIOS. Rick has over 15 years of experience providing innovative technology solutions, development support, and consulting on BIOS security and security related technologies for customers ranging from Small and Medium Businesses to Fortune 100 companies.
Rick's current and past work is centered on hardening and maintaining BIOS and endpoint security for Dell client platforms. His expertise is focused mainly in security related technologies such as UEFI, Secure Boot, BIOS signing, TPM and measured boot, pre-boot authentication, and Intel vPro technologies such as Trusted Execution Technology.
Celia Merzbacher
SRC
Thomas Millar
Communications Chief, US-CERT
DHS
Mr. Thomas R. Millar serves as the United States Computer Emergency Readiness Team's (US-CERT) Chief of Communications, a role which finds him at the intersection of outreach, awareness, standards development, and technical interoperability initiatives. In this role, Mr. Millar is focused on modernizing US-CERT's approaches to information sharing, knowledge exchange and coordination. Since joining US-CERT in 2007, he has played a significant role in US-CERT's response activities during major cyber events such as the Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attacks on Estonia in 2007, the outbreak of the Conficker worm, and the DDoS attacks on major U.S. Government and commercial Web sites in 2009.
Mr. Millar has previously worked as a team lead for intrusion detection and analysis at the FBI's Enterprise Security Operations Center. Prior to his cybersecurity career, he served as a linguist with the 22nd Intelligence Squadron of the United States Air Force.
Mr. Millar has a Master's of Science in Engineering Management from the George Washington University.
Ron Moore
VP, Cyber
Camber Corporation
Mr. Moore has more than 30 years of management and operations experience spanning intelligence and security; information operations, technology, and security; program management; software and systems development; and manufacturing and logistics. He specializes in process development and implementation as well as strategic planning and execution. He has held progressively responsible management and operations positions in both private and Fortune 500 businesses, as well as numerous military organizations. After 14 years of active duty, he served in the U.S. Air Force Reserve from 1992 to 2009. He holds a Masters of Business Administration degree from Southwest Texas State University, a Bachelors of Science in Information Systems from the University of Maryland University College, an Associates of Science in Linguistics from the Community College of the Air Force, and an Associates of Arts in Management from the University of Maryland, European Division.
Simon Moore
ARM
Mr. Moore currently serves as Director of Technical Marketing -Security at ARM. Within this role he is responsible for the specification and development of strong security technologies across the mobile, server and embedded ecosystem. Mr. Moore has worked at ARM for over 12 years, undertaking both marketing and engineering roles. More recently his focus has been on TrustZone technology and Trusted Execution Environments. He a director of GlobalPlatform - a standards body working in the areas of Secure Element, Trusted Execution Environment and System messaging.16
Hadi Nahari
NVIDIA
Mr. Nahari is a security professional with 20 years of experience in software development & extensive work in design, architecture, verification, proof-of-concept & implementation of secure systems. Hadi has worked on enterprise & embedded systems with primary focus on security, cryptography, complex systems design, & vulnerability assessment & threat analysis. Author of the book: "Web Commerce Security: Design & Development", published by John Wiley & Sons, Hadi is a frequent speaker in U.S. & international security events. Hadi is currently in charge of the security architecture & strategy of Mobile & Software Solutions at NVIDIA as Chief Security Architect.
Director of Security Research
McAfee
Dave Marcus currently serves as Director of Advanced Research and Threat Intelligence for McAfeer Labs, focusing on bringing McAfee's extensive security research and global threat intelligence to McAfee's customers and the greater security community. Mr. Marcus' current focus at McAfee Labs includes advanced research, threat intelligence projects, media, and thought leadership responsibilities including social media technology engagement and research. He is also co-host of AudioParasitics - The Official PodCast of McAfee Labs. Mr. Marcus also has responsibilities for all publications from McAfee Labs, such as the Labs' journal of security vision The McAfee Security Journal as well as its Quarterly Threat Report and yearly Threat Predictions. Prior to joining McAfee, Mr. Marcus has held leadership and consulting positions focusing on information technology security services, network and host intrusion analysis, forensic analysis and testimony, threat research & countermeasures, and has provided professional consulting services. His industry experience crosses all IT-based industries with a determined focus on advanced intelligence gathering, digital forensic analysis, as well as intrusion detection/prevention and analysis on both the network and host. Mr. Marcus is also a Qualified Expert Witness in Computer Forensics and Computer Security as well as being one of the most highly sought after speakers on all levels of information security. Mr. Marcus has provided solutions, consulting and training in the following areas:
• Malware and Threat Collection and Analysis
• Information Security Communications Through Social Media
• Open Source Intelligence Gathering and Analysis
• Vulnerability Assessments and Penetration Testing
• Computer Incident and Emergency Response
• Secure Network Architecture Design
• Risk and Compliance Policies and Procedures
• Hacktivism and Hacktivist Activities
• Cybercrime Activities and Response
• Computer Forensics, Electronic Data Preservation, Management and Discovery Services
• Expert Witness Services
Mr. Marcus has worked for Ajilon Consulting, SmartForce The E-Learning Company, cbtSystems, HAS, Inc., CompuSOLVE, Inc., and prior to joining McAfee served as President and Senior Security Engineer of SecureNET's Network Security Practice. In his spare time he collects guitars, is an avid powerlifter and is also a founding keyholder of Unallocated Space, a Maryland Hackerspace. He also enjoys practicing the art of lock-picking and is a hacker of things.
Brad Martin
NSA
Rick Martinez
Dell
Rick Martinez is a BIOS Security Architect at Dell working with internal and external customers on the strategy, development, and deployment of BIOS Security infrastructure and solutions for Dell Client BIOS. Rick has over 15 years of experience providing innovative technology solutions, development support, and consulting on BIOS security and security related technologies for customers ranging from Small and Medium Businesses to Fortune 100 companies.
Rick's current and past work is centered on hardening and maintaining BIOS and endpoint security for Dell client platforms. His expertise is focused mainly in security related technologies such as UEFI, Secure Boot, BIOS signing, TPM and measured boot, pre-boot authentication, and Intel vPro technologies such as Trusted Execution Technology.
Celia Merzbacher
SRC
Thomas Millar
Communications Chief, US-CERT
DHS
Mr. Thomas R. Millar serves as the United States Computer Emergency Readiness Team's (US-CERT) Chief of Communications, a role which finds him at the intersection of outreach, awareness, standards development, and technical interoperability initiatives. In this role, Mr. Millar is focused on modernizing US-CERT's approaches to information sharing, knowledge exchange and coordination. Since joining US-CERT in 2007, he has played a significant role in US-CERT's response activities during major cyber events such as the Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attacks on Estonia in 2007, the outbreak of the Conficker worm, and the DDoS attacks on major U.S. Government and commercial Web sites in 2009.
Mr. Millar has previously worked as a team lead for intrusion detection and analysis at the FBI's Enterprise Security Operations Center. Prior to his cybersecurity career, he served as a linguist with the 22nd Intelligence Squadron of the United States Air Force.
Mr. Millar has a Master's of Science in Engineering Management from the George Washington University.
Ron Moore
VP, Cyber
Camber Corporation
Mr. Moore has more than 30 years of management and operations experience spanning intelligence and security; information operations, technology, and security; program management; software and systems development; and manufacturing and logistics. He specializes in process development and implementation as well as strategic planning and execution. He has held progressively responsible management and operations positions in both private and Fortune 500 businesses, as well as numerous military organizations. After 14 years of active duty, he served in the U.S. Air Force Reserve from 1992 to 2009. He holds a Masters of Business Administration degree from Southwest Texas State University, a Bachelors of Science in Information Systems from the University of Maryland University College, an Associates of Science in Linguistics from the Community College of the Air Force, and an Associates of Arts in Management from the University of Maryland, European Division.
Simon Moore
ARM
Mr. Moore currently serves as Director of Technical Marketing -Security at ARM. Within this role he is responsible for the specification and development of strong security technologies across the mobile, server and embedded ecosystem. Mr. Moore has worked at ARM for over 12 years, undertaking both marketing and engineering roles. More recently his focus has been on TrustZone technology and Trusted Execution Environments. He a director of GlobalPlatform - a standards body working in the areas of Secure Element, Trusted Execution Environment and System messaging.16
Hadi Nahari
NVIDIA
Mr. Nahari is a security professional with 20 years of experience in software development & extensive work in design, architecture, verification, proof-of-concept & implementation of secure systems. Hadi has worked on enterprise & embedded systems with primary focus on security, cryptography, complex systems design, & vulnerability assessment & threat analysis. Author of the book: "Web Commerce Security: Design & Development", published by John Wiley & Sons, Hadi is a frequent speaker in U.S. & international security events. Hadi is currently in charge of the security architecture & strategy of Mobile & Software Solutions at NVIDIA as Chief Security Architect.
21 January 2014 06:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ed Hammersla
Raytheon Trusted Computer Solutions
Ed Hammersla is President of Raytheon Cyber Products Company, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Raytheon Company. Raytheon Cyber Products Company is a leading supplier of cross domain, insider threat, and visual analytic solutions for industry and government. In this role, Mr. Hammersla applies over 30 years of industry experience to implement strategies to assist the company in providing the highest quality cyber products to government and industry organizations.
Prior to the formation of Raytheon Cyber Products Company in November of 2013, Mr. Hammersla served as Chief Operating Officer for Raytheon Trusted Computer Solutions. Mr. Hammersla held the same position for Trusted Computer Solutions prior to Raytheon's acquisition of the company in November of 2010. Mr. Hammersla is considered an industry thought leader in how to deliver information securely and quickly to those that need it the most. He has established working relationships with government leaders by applying commercial best practices to unique and complex problems facing the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Intelligence Community (IC). As a frequent contributing speaker at technology conferences, Mr. Hammersla has played a key role in evangelizing the need to share information across multiple security domains long before it gained widespread public attention. He has worked closely with government leaders in information sharing such as the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), the United States Air Force Central Command and others, to utilize commercial-off-the-shelf technology to support their daily missions.
Supporting his vision of helping government organizations better share information securely and cost-effectively, Mr. Hammersla played a key role in the development and bringing to market of a trusted version of Linux now known as Red Hat Enterprise Linux. This is the world's first commercially available mainstream Linux operating system evaluated under the internationally recognized Common Criteria Evaluation and Certification Scheme (CCEVS) with an Evaluation Assurance Level (EAL) and Protection Profiles (PPs) that qualify it as a "trusted" operating system. This coordinated, worldwide Linux community effort has brought a new level of security and low cost platform choice to both government and commercial markets.
Mr. Hammersla serves on a number of government committees, industry association working groups and boards of directors. Currently he sits on the Board of Directors for the Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association, Washington, D.C. Chapter (AFCEA DC) and the United Services Organization for Metropolitan Washington (USO Metro).
Mr. Hammersla began his career with ten years at IBM where he moved from engineering to marketing and then on to various management positions. He has held leadership positions with Sterling Software, Informix Federal and NEC. He has also worked in the Venture Capital Community as CEO of multiple startups and served as an investor and advisor for other companies. He holds a B.A. in Business Administration and Biblical Archaeology form Principia College in Elsah, Illinois. He resides in Washington, D.C.
Stephen Hanna
Juniper Networks
Brian Hernacki
Intel
Lee Holcomb
Lockheed Martin
Dave Hurrey
NSA
Tom Jones
Program Manager
JWSecure
Tom Jones has been designing and building both hardware and software security solutions for decades. These solutions have included hardware key tokens, FIPS 140 level 4 security modules as well as the first commercial PGP email client and the largest deployment ever of mandatory integrity controls. He has also worked on ANSI standards for cryptography, EDI and electronic payments. He is now involved in building commercial solutions that leverage the security available in the next generation of TPM - the Trusted Platform Module.
Greg Kazmierczak
Wave
Mr. Kazmierczak is responsible for defining Wave's technology roadmap, including the company's strategy for PC and mobile platform Trust Ecosystems, as well as data-at-rest and data-in-motion products. In addition to these duties, Mr. Kazmierczak directs intellectual property activities, and initiates research, advanced development, and architecture utilizing hardware security devices to further the goal of protecting user and enterprise assets. Mr. Kazmierczak joined the company in 1992, and previously served as Director of Hardware Engineering. With over twenty-one years' experience in the security industry, he has extensive background in architecture and system design. Mr. Kazmierczak represents Wave at standards organizations such as the Trusted Computing Group, IEEE, IETF, and OASIS. He has authored and edited numerous TCG specifications, holds several patents and helped found two start-ups. Before joining Wave, he served as a Research Scientist for Siemens Corporate Research, conducting research in silicon integrated circuits. Mr. Kazmierczak holds B.S. and M.S. degrees in Electrical Engineering from the University of Pennsylvania.
Himanshu Khurana
Honeywell
Steve Klos
TagVault
Thomas Kupiec
CISO
SMS, Inc.
Thomas Kupiec Joined SMS Data Products Group Inc. after retiring from 23 years of exceptional Federal Service supporting information technology security and IT program management. Thomas served the last 10 years at the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency (NGA) as the Chief Information Security Officer and the Senior Security Advisor. While in this capacity, Thomas was a senior member of the Director of National Intelligence Information Security Risk Management Committee, Defense Information Systems Network Flag Panel, Presidential Committee on National Security Systems, and frequent advisor to the Office of Management and Budget and White House cyber security staff. Thomas contributed and assisted in the development of numerous intelligence community policies and standards, including the Intelligence Community Directive 503 on IT systems Assessment and Authorization. Recently Thomas has provided invaluable security assistance on the Intelligence Community Desktop Environment and the Integrated Technical Enterprise Strategy.
Prior to NGA, Thomas managed the IT reconstruction of the Pentagon after the 11 September 2001 terrorist attack, securely rebuilding the infrastructure in 12 short months. Thomas was responsible for management and oversight of the Pentagon critical IT infrastructure and the command and control communications systems. Thomas is a graduate of the National War College with a degree in National Security Strategy and a Defense Acquisition Workforce Improvement Act Level III Program Manager. Thomas holds several commercial certifications to include CISSP, GSLC, and GCPM. Thomas has been awarded several Meritorious Service Medals, the DNI Meritorious Unit Citation, and the Canadian Chief Intelligence Award.
Kent Landfield
McAfee
Nate Lesser
Deputy Director of the National Cybersecurity Center of Excellence
National Cybersecurity Center of Excellence
Suzanne Lightman
Lead IT Policy Analyst
NIST
Enoch Long
Splunk
Enoch Long serves as Principal Security Strategist at Splunk, where he specializes in database development, software engineering, network security engineering, and creating content for cyber security analysts.
Prior to his current position, Enoch served as Manager for Northrop Grumman's Cyber Security Operations Center (CSOC), where he built secure environments for the company's internal networks as well as its clients' highly classified networks/assets.
Before that he worked for the Department of Homeland Security, where he deployed the EINSTEIN program to for complete situational awareness. He has also worked with the Department of Defense and other intelligence agencies supporting their classified network defense projects and security infrastructure programs.
Raytheon Trusted Computer Solutions
Ed Hammersla is President of Raytheon Cyber Products Company, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Raytheon Company. Raytheon Cyber Products Company is a leading supplier of cross domain, insider threat, and visual analytic solutions for industry and government. In this role, Mr. Hammersla applies over 30 years of industry experience to implement strategies to assist the company in providing the highest quality cyber products to government and industry organizations.
Prior to the formation of Raytheon Cyber Products Company in November of 2013, Mr. Hammersla served as Chief Operating Officer for Raytheon Trusted Computer Solutions. Mr. Hammersla held the same position for Trusted Computer Solutions prior to Raytheon's acquisition of the company in November of 2010. Mr. Hammersla is considered an industry thought leader in how to deliver information securely and quickly to those that need it the most. He has established working relationships with government leaders by applying commercial best practices to unique and complex problems facing the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Intelligence Community (IC). As a frequent contributing speaker at technology conferences, Mr. Hammersla has played a key role in evangelizing the need to share information across multiple security domains long before it gained widespread public attention. He has worked closely with government leaders in information sharing such as the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), the United States Air Force Central Command and others, to utilize commercial-off-the-shelf technology to support their daily missions.
Supporting his vision of helping government organizations better share information securely and cost-effectively, Mr. Hammersla played a key role in the development and bringing to market of a trusted version of Linux now known as Red Hat Enterprise Linux. This is the world's first commercially available mainstream Linux operating system evaluated under the internationally recognized Common Criteria Evaluation and Certification Scheme (CCEVS) with an Evaluation Assurance Level (EAL) and Protection Profiles (PPs) that qualify it as a "trusted" operating system. This coordinated, worldwide Linux community effort has brought a new level of security and low cost platform choice to both government and commercial markets.
Mr. Hammersla serves on a number of government committees, industry association working groups and boards of directors. Currently he sits on the Board of Directors for the Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association, Washington, D.C. Chapter (AFCEA DC) and the United Services Organization for Metropolitan Washington (USO Metro).
Mr. Hammersla began his career with ten years at IBM where he moved from engineering to marketing and then on to various management positions. He has held leadership positions with Sterling Software, Informix Federal and NEC. He has also worked in the Venture Capital Community as CEO of multiple startups and served as an investor and advisor for other companies. He holds a B.A. in Business Administration and Biblical Archaeology form Principia College in Elsah, Illinois. He resides in Washington, D.C.
Stephen Hanna
Juniper Networks
Brian Hernacki
Intel
Lee Holcomb
Lockheed Martin
Dave Hurrey
NSA
Tom Jones
Program Manager
JWSecure
Tom Jones has been designing and building both hardware and software security solutions for decades. These solutions have included hardware key tokens, FIPS 140 level 4 security modules as well as the first commercial PGP email client and the largest deployment ever of mandatory integrity controls. He has also worked on ANSI standards for cryptography, EDI and electronic payments. He is now involved in building commercial solutions that leverage the security available in the next generation of TPM - the Trusted Platform Module.
Greg Kazmierczak
Wave
Mr. Kazmierczak is responsible for defining Wave's technology roadmap, including the company's strategy for PC and mobile platform Trust Ecosystems, as well as data-at-rest and data-in-motion products. In addition to these duties, Mr. Kazmierczak directs intellectual property activities, and initiates research, advanced development, and architecture utilizing hardware security devices to further the goal of protecting user and enterprise assets. Mr. Kazmierczak joined the company in 1992, and previously served as Director of Hardware Engineering. With over twenty-one years' experience in the security industry, he has extensive background in architecture and system design. Mr. Kazmierczak represents Wave at standards organizations such as the Trusted Computing Group, IEEE, IETF, and OASIS. He has authored and edited numerous TCG specifications, holds several patents and helped found two start-ups. Before joining Wave, he served as a Research Scientist for Siemens Corporate Research, conducting research in silicon integrated circuits. Mr. Kazmierczak holds B.S. and M.S. degrees in Electrical Engineering from the University of Pennsylvania.
Himanshu Khurana
Honeywell
Steve Klos
TagVault
Thomas Kupiec
CISO
SMS, Inc.
Thomas Kupiec Joined SMS Data Products Group Inc. after retiring from 23 years of exceptional Federal Service supporting information technology security and IT program management. Thomas served the last 10 years at the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency (NGA) as the Chief Information Security Officer and the Senior Security Advisor. While in this capacity, Thomas was a senior member of the Director of National Intelligence Information Security Risk Management Committee, Defense Information Systems Network Flag Panel, Presidential Committee on National Security Systems, and frequent advisor to the Office of Management and Budget and White House cyber security staff. Thomas contributed and assisted in the development of numerous intelligence community policies and standards, including the Intelligence Community Directive 503 on IT systems Assessment and Authorization. Recently Thomas has provided invaluable security assistance on the Intelligence Community Desktop Environment and the Integrated Technical Enterprise Strategy.
Prior to NGA, Thomas managed the IT reconstruction of the Pentagon after the 11 September 2001 terrorist attack, securely rebuilding the infrastructure in 12 short months. Thomas was responsible for management and oversight of the Pentagon critical IT infrastructure and the command and control communications systems. Thomas is a graduate of the National War College with a degree in National Security Strategy and a Defense Acquisition Workforce Improvement Act Level III Program Manager. Thomas holds several commercial certifications to include CISSP, GSLC, and GCPM. Thomas has been awarded several Meritorious Service Medals, the DNI Meritorious Unit Citation, and the Canadian Chief Intelligence Award.
Kent Landfield
McAfee
Nate Lesser
Deputy Director of the National Cybersecurity Center of Excellence
National Cybersecurity Center of Excellence
Suzanne Lightman
Lead IT Policy Analyst
NIST
Enoch Long
Splunk
Enoch Long serves as Principal Security Strategist at Splunk, where he specializes in database development, software engineering, network security engineering, and creating content for cyber security analysts.
Prior to his current position, Enoch served as Manager for Northrop Grumman's Cyber Security Operations Center (CSOC), where he built secure environments for the company's internal networks as well as its clients' highly classified networks/assets.
Before that he worked for the Department of Homeland Security, where he deployed the EINSTEIN program to for complete situational awareness. He has also worked with the Department of Defense and other intelligence agencies supporting their classified network defense projects and security infrastructure programs.
21 January 2014 06:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Rick Doten
Chief Information Security Officer
DMI
Rick has over 24 years of experience in the IT industry, the last 17 focused on cyber security. Before DMI, Rick was a Risk Management Consultant at Gartner. He was Chief Scientist at the Lockheed Martin Center for Cyber Security Innovation (CCSI). Rick was Managing Principal for Verizon Business's East Coast Professional Security Services practice. Through most of his career, Rick ran penetration testing, forensics and incident response teams, and risk management professionals across all industries and the US federal government. Rick has been quoted in dozens of security articles such as Dark Reading, SC Magazine, Infosecurity Professional magazine, Kreb's on Security, and Mashable, on the topics of cyber security and mobile security. Rick has appeared on CNN, TechTV, and the National Insider as a cyber security expert. Rick is on the Intel Corp. Enterprise Board of Advisors, and the Council on Cyber Security Critical Security Controls Editorial Panel. Rick also holds a Patent for Wireless Intrusion Detection technology.
Curt Dukes
Deputy Director, Information Assurance
NSA
MOST RECENT ASSIGNMENT: (U) Prior to his assignment as Deputy Director, IAD, Mr. Dukes was the Director of the NSA/CSS Commercial Solutions Center (NCSC). As the Agency's portal to the commercial world, the NCSC leveraged industry relationships, while partnering with foreign, Intelligence Community, and the Department of Defense, to address the strategic needs of the NSA/CSS and the National Security community.
PRIOR POSITIONS: (U//FOUO) Mr. Dukes joined the National Security Agency in 1984 as a Computer Scientist. He has served as a scientist, technical leader, and line manager in a variety of technical organizations within NSA since that time. He has completed an overseas assignment and intelligence community assignment for the Department of Defense. In Germany, he had representational responsibilities for implementing Information Assurance activities across the European Command. Following his community assignment, he became Deputy, then Chief of the Network Architecture and Applications Division. During that assignment, Mr. Dukes was awarded the Meritorious Civilian Service Award by the Director, NSA. In December 2004, he became the Chief of the Systems and Network Analysis Center. Mr. Dukes led a highly skilled technical workforce that performed security analysis of emerging network technologies, conducted security testing of commercial solutions, led the exploitation and development of countermeasures, and shared security analysis information among Information Assurance and Information Operations analysts.
EDUCATION: (U) Mr. Dukes graduated from the University of Florida in 1983 with a Bachelor of Science degree majoring in Computer Science. He also graduated from the Johns Hopkins University in 1989 with a Master of Science degree in Computer Science. He is a 2004 graduate of the Intelligence Community Officer Training Program.
PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND: (U) Mr. Dukes received the rank of Meritorious Executive in the Senior Cryptologic Executive Service in December 2009, for sustained superior accomplishment. He received the Meritorious Civilian Service Award in April 2001, for distinguished and unselfish service. He was a November 1996 recipient of the Exceptional Performance Award for valuable service to a sister Intelligence Community Agency.
Jessica Fitzgerald-McKay
NSA
Matthew Gaston
Carnagie Mellon University
Bryan Glancey
Samsung
Bryan Glancey currently is the global Director of Public Sector & Security for the Enterprise Business Team at Samsung Electronics. Mr. Glancey's responsibilities include the building a global government presence for Samsung.
Prior to joining Samsung Mr. Glancey led the Motorola Mobility division of Google's Government strategy.
Mr. Glancey was previously Co-Founder and Chief Technology Officer of Data-at-Rest Cryptography company Mobile Armor, which he lead from founding in 2002 through Venture capital funding until acquisition by Trend Micro in 2010. Mr. Glancey lead Mobile Armor through government certifications including FIPS 140-2 and common criteria as well as several high profile implementations including the US Army, Office of the Secretary of Defense, Supreme Court and many others.
Mr. Glancey holds a Bachelor of Science in Physics from Clarkson University.
Josh Goldfarb
CSO
nPulse Technologies
Tim Grance
NIST
Chief Information Security Officer
DMI
Rick has over 24 years of experience in the IT industry, the last 17 focused on cyber security. Before DMI, Rick was a Risk Management Consultant at Gartner. He was Chief Scientist at the Lockheed Martin Center for Cyber Security Innovation (CCSI). Rick was Managing Principal for Verizon Business's East Coast Professional Security Services practice. Through most of his career, Rick ran penetration testing, forensics and incident response teams, and risk management professionals across all industries and the US federal government. Rick has been quoted in dozens of security articles such as Dark Reading, SC Magazine, Infosecurity Professional magazine, Kreb's on Security, and Mashable, on the topics of cyber security and mobile security. Rick has appeared on CNN, TechTV, and the National Insider as a cyber security expert. Rick is on the Intel Corp. Enterprise Board of Advisors, and the Council on Cyber Security Critical Security Controls Editorial Panel. Rick also holds a Patent for Wireless Intrusion Detection technology.
Curt Dukes
Deputy Director, Information Assurance
NSA
MOST RECENT ASSIGNMENT: (U) Prior to his assignment as Deputy Director, IAD, Mr. Dukes was the Director of the NSA/CSS Commercial Solutions Center (NCSC). As the Agency's portal to the commercial world, the NCSC leveraged industry relationships, while partnering with foreign, Intelligence Community, and the Department of Defense, to address the strategic needs of the NSA/CSS and the National Security community.
PRIOR POSITIONS: (U//FOUO) Mr. Dukes joined the National Security Agency in 1984 as a Computer Scientist. He has served as a scientist, technical leader, and line manager in a variety of technical organizations within NSA since that time. He has completed an overseas assignment and intelligence community assignment for the Department of Defense. In Germany, he had representational responsibilities for implementing Information Assurance activities across the European Command. Following his community assignment, he became Deputy, then Chief of the Network Architecture and Applications Division. During that assignment, Mr. Dukes was awarded the Meritorious Civilian Service Award by the Director, NSA. In December 2004, he became the Chief of the Systems and Network Analysis Center. Mr. Dukes led a highly skilled technical workforce that performed security analysis of emerging network technologies, conducted security testing of commercial solutions, led the exploitation and development of countermeasures, and shared security analysis information among Information Assurance and Information Operations analysts.
EDUCATION: (U) Mr. Dukes graduated from the University of Florida in 1983 with a Bachelor of Science degree majoring in Computer Science. He also graduated from the Johns Hopkins University in 1989 with a Master of Science degree in Computer Science. He is a 2004 graduate of the Intelligence Community Officer Training Program.
PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND: (U) Mr. Dukes received the rank of Meritorious Executive in the Senior Cryptologic Executive Service in December 2009, for sustained superior accomplishment. He received the Meritorious Civilian Service Award in April 2001, for distinguished and unselfish service. He was a November 1996 recipient of the Exceptional Performance Award for valuable service to a sister Intelligence Community Agency.
Jessica Fitzgerald-McKay
NSA
Matthew Gaston
Carnagie Mellon University
Bryan Glancey
Samsung
Bryan Glancey currently is the global Director of Public Sector & Security for the Enterprise Business Team at Samsung Electronics. Mr. Glancey's responsibilities include the building a global government presence for Samsung.
Prior to joining Samsung Mr. Glancey led the Motorola Mobility division of Google's Government strategy.
Mr. Glancey was previously Co-Founder and Chief Technology Officer of Data-at-Rest Cryptography company Mobile Armor, which he lead from founding in 2002 through Venture capital funding until acquisition by Trend Micro in 2010. Mr. Glancey lead Mobile Armor through government certifications including FIPS 140-2 and common criteria as well as several high profile implementations including the US Army, Office of the Secretary of Defense, Supreme Court and many others.
Mr. Glancey holds a Bachelor of Science in Physics from Clarkson University.
Josh Goldfarb
CSO
nPulse Technologies
Tim Grance
NIST
21 January 2014 06:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Vali Ali
HP
Vali Ali is a Chief Technologist in Business PC Solutions group, with current responsibilities for vision and architecture development for all core platform and cloud enabling software solutions. His current areas of responsibility span platform privacy and security, Cloud Services, BIOS and firmware architecture, client virtualization, communications, power management, networking, and other core hardware enabling software components. In his previous role, Vali was the chief architect of the HP ProtectToolsr suite of security offerings for business client platforms (including notebooks, desktops, and workstations).
As the primary software technologist for group, Vali is also responsible for overall technology vision and delivery; and closely works with vast array of business partners and suppliers for creating new business opportunities.
Vali holds 29 worldwide granted patents with 45 still pending in the pipeline.
Lee Badger
NIST
Harold Booth
NIST
Mike Boyle
NSA
Mike Boyle is a 23-year veteran of NSA, mostly working in the areas of cryptography, network security and platform security. Mike has a long-running involvement in standards organizations such as the IETF and the Trusted Computing Group. In 2011 Mike was chosen to be the Information Assurance Directorate's first ever Standards Lead, overseeing standards development efforts in areas ranging from security automation and mobility to public key infrastructure.
Tom Brostrom
NSA
Larry Bunch
Principle IA Engineer
Provideo Management
Larry Bunch, CISSP, CEH, is a U.S. Army National Guard Retired - Staff Sargent with more than 14 years of experience in information technology and Cyber Security. Mr. Bunch has a diverse Information Technology background and is well versed in numerous arenas of the IT spectrum. He is a conscientious cyber security professional that has constantly striven to find ways to innovatively collaborate and improve processes and procedures. He has had a long and distinguished career in Defense, and supporting Public Sector organizations in Network Defense and Cyber operations. Mr. Bunch is currently Principle IA Engineer for Provideo Management Inc. supporting the Defense Information Systems Agency. Prior to his current position Mr. Bunch has served as Senior Systems Engineer and Information Assurance Security Officer (IASO) at VortechX Applied Technologies supporting the US Army Communications and Electronics Command (CECOM), Senior Systems intelligence Analyst with National Cyber Investigative Joint Task Force - Analytical Group (NCIJTF-AG), Sr. Cyber Security Engineer and LNO at the Department of Energy, Senior Network Security Analyst at the US Army Research Laboratory, and retired as the S-6 Section Chief for the 29th Combat Aviation Brigade (CAB).
Marco Cavaho
Florida Institute of Tech.
Byron Collie
Goldman Sachs
Joseph Czopek
Operations Manager
General Dynamics
Joseph Czopek is a senior cybersecurity manager with 25+ years of public and private sector experience. He has served as an intelligence Officer in the U.S. Marine Corps, conducted vulnerability assessments for the Department of Defense, and since 2009 he has worked for General Dynamics (GD)-Advanced Information Systems (AIS). At GD-AIS Joseph first started out as a security analyst at the General Dynamics-AIS corporate Security Operations Center, and then transitioned over to working as a network analyst at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) United States Computer Emergency Readiness Team (US-CERT). He currently is serving as both the Senior Operations Manager as well as the Senior Technical Manager for the US-CERT Cyber Threat Analysis and Network Analysis Teams. Joseph has a Bachelor of Science from the U.S. Naval Academy and his main areas of interest are intrusion detection, incident response, network analytics, and enterprise security.
Michael Daniel
Special Assistant to the President & Cybersecurity Coordinator, White House
Mr. Michael Daniel is the Special Assistant to the President and Cybersecurity Coordinator. In this position, Mr. Daniel leads the interagency development of national cybersecurity strategy and policy, and he oversees agencies' implementation of those policies. Prior to this position, he held multiple positions at the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). From 2001 to 2012, Mr. Daniel served as the Chief of the Intelligence Branch, National Security Division. Also at OMB, Mr. Daniel served as an examiner in the National Security Division's Front Office, where he supported the Deputy Associate Director and in the Operations Branch revising Navy and Marine Corps operational activities. Actively involved in Federal cybersecurity activities since 2007, he worked on the comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative, cybersecurity budgets, and with Congress on cybersecurity issues. Mr. Daniel also tracked cybersecurity spending and the development of useful cyber performance metrics. He received a bachelor's degree from Princeton University and a master's in public policy from Harvard University. He also has a master's of science degree in National Resource Strategy from the National Defense University's Industrial College of the Armed Forces.
Evelyn Desouza
Cisco
Donna Dodson
Division Chief, Computer Security Division
NIST
Donna Dodson is Chief of the Computer Security Division (CSD) and the Acting Executive Director of the National Cybersecurity Center of Excellence at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). Dodson oversees the CSD cybersecurity research program to develop standards, guidelines, technology, tests and metrics for the protection of unclassified Federal information and systems. Through partnerships with industry, she also ensures NIST cybersecurity contributions help secure the Nation's sensitive information and systems. This includes establishing public-private collaborations for accelerating the widespread adoption of integrated cybersecurity tools and technologies. She was a recent Fed 100 Award winner and a Top 10 Influential People in Government Information Security.
Emily Doll
NSA
Emily Doll works in the Commercial Strategies Division of the Information Assurance Directorate (IAD). She contributes to several working groups within the Trusted Computing Group in support of IAD mission goals.
http://www.fbcinc.com/e/cif/speakers.aspx
HP
Vali Ali is a Chief Technologist in Business PC Solutions group, with current responsibilities for vision and architecture development for all core platform and cloud enabling software solutions. His current areas of responsibility span platform privacy and security, Cloud Services, BIOS and firmware architecture, client virtualization, communications, power management, networking, and other core hardware enabling software components. In his previous role, Vali was the chief architect of the HP ProtectToolsr suite of security offerings for business client platforms (including notebooks, desktops, and workstations).
As the primary software technologist for group, Vali is also responsible for overall technology vision and delivery; and closely works with vast array of business partners and suppliers for creating new business opportunities.
Vali holds 29 worldwide granted patents with 45 still pending in the pipeline.
Lee Badger
NIST
Harold Booth
NIST
Mike Boyle
NSA
Mike Boyle is a 23-year veteran of NSA, mostly working in the areas of cryptography, network security and platform security. Mike has a long-running involvement in standards organizations such as the IETF and the Trusted Computing Group. In 2011 Mike was chosen to be the Information Assurance Directorate's first ever Standards Lead, overseeing standards development efforts in areas ranging from security automation and mobility to public key infrastructure.
Tom Brostrom
NSA
Larry Bunch
Principle IA Engineer
Provideo Management
Larry Bunch, CISSP, CEH, is a U.S. Army National Guard Retired - Staff Sargent with more than 14 years of experience in information technology and Cyber Security. Mr. Bunch has a diverse Information Technology background and is well versed in numerous arenas of the IT spectrum. He is a conscientious cyber security professional that has constantly striven to find ways to innovatively collaborate and improve processes and procedures. He has had a long and distinguished career in Defense, and supporting Public Sector organizations in Network Defense and Cyber operations. Mr. Bunch is currently Principle IA Engineer for Provideo Management Inc. supporting the Defense Information Systems Agency. Prior to his current position Mr. Bunch has served as Senior Systems Engineer and Information Assurance Security Officer (IASO) at VortechX Applied Technologies supporting the US Army Communications and Electronics Command (CECOM), Senior Systems intelligence Analyst with National Cyber Investigative Joint Task Force - Analytical Group (NCIJTF-AG), Sr. Cyber Security Engineer and LNO at the Department of Energy, Senior Network Security Analyst at the US Army Research Laboratory, and retired as the S-6 Section Chief for the 29th Combat Aviation Brigade (CAB).
Marco Cavaho
Florida Institute of Tech.
Byron Collie
Goldman Sachs
Joseph Czopek
Operations Manager
General Dynamics
Joseph Czopek is a senior cybersecurity manager with 25+ years of public and private sector experience. He has served as an intelligence Officer in the U.S. Marine Corps, conducted vulnerability assessments for the Department of Defense, and since 2009 he has worked for General Dynamics (GD)-Advanced Information Systems (AIS). At GD-AIS Joseph first started out as a security analyst at the General Dynamics-AIS corporate Security Operations Center, and then transitioned over to working as a network analyst at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) United States Computer Emergency Readiness Team (US-CERT). He currently is serving as both the Senior Operations Manager as well as the Senior Technical Manager for the US-CERT Cyber Threat Analysis and Network Analysis Teams. Joseph has a Bachelor of Science from the U.S. Naval Academy and his main areas of interest are intrusion detection, incident response, network analytics, and enterprise security.
Michael Daniel
Special Assistant to the President & Cybersecurity Coordinator, White House
Mr. Michael Daniel is the Special Assistant to the President and Cybersecurity Coordinator. In this position, Mr. Daniel leads the interagency development of national cybersecurity strategy and policy, and he oversees agencies' implementation of those policies. Prior to this position, he held multiple positions at the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). From 2001 to 2012, Mr. Daniel served as the Chief of the Intelligence Branch, National Security Division. Also at OMB, Mr. Daniel served as an examiner in the National Security Division's Front Office, where he supported the Deputy Associate Director and in the Operations Branch revising Navy and Marine Corps operational activities. Actively involved in Federal cybersecurity activities since 2007, he worked on the comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative, cybersecurity budgets, and with Congress on cybersecurity issues. Mr. Daniel also tracked cybersecurity spending and the development of useful cyber performance metrics. He received a bachelor's degree from Princeton University and a master's in public policy from Harvard University. He also has a master's of science degree in National Resource Strategy from the National Defense University's Industrial College of the Armed Forces.
Evelyn Desouza
Cisco
Donna Dodson
Division Chief, Computer Security Division
NIST
Donna Dodson is Chief of the Computer Security Division (CSD) and the Acting Executive Director of the National Cybersecurity Center of Excellence at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). Dodson oversees the CSD cybersecurity research program to develop standards, guidelines, technology, tests and metrics for the protection of unclassified Federal information and systems. Through partnerships with industry, she also ensures NIST cybersecurity contributions help secure the Nation's sensitive information and systems. This includes establishing public-private collaborations for accelerating the widespread adoption of integrated cybersecurity tools and technologies. She was a recent Fed 100 Award winner and a Top 10 Influential People in Government Information Security.
Emily Doll
NSA
Emily Doll works in the Commercial Strategies Division of the Information Assurance Directorate (IAD). She contributes to several working groups within the Trusted Computing Group in support of IAD mission goals.
http://www.fbcinc.com/e/cif/speakers.aspx
http://www.fbcinc.com/e/cif/speakers.aspx
21 January 2014 06:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The three-day forum will comprise of four tracks:
http://www.fbcinc.com/e/cif/agendagrid.aspx
http://www.fbcinc.com/e/cif/files/2014CIF_Agenda_Public.pdf
Trusted Computing Track-
Trust through Device & System Integrity
sponsored by:
ManTech International Corporation
Security Automation Track-
Automate with trust to speed informed decision making
Information Sharing Track-
Openly and confidently share the information we need to share to make informed decisions and enact automated responses.
Research Track-
Explore end-state research themes for designed-in security, tailored trustworthy spaces, moving target, and cyber economic incentives.
http://www.fbcinc.com/e/cif/agendagrid.aspx
http://www.fbcinc.com/e/cif/files/2014CIF_Agenda_Public.pdf
Trusted Computing Track-
Trust through Device & System Integrity
sponsored by:
ManTech International Corporation
Security Automation Track-
Automate with trust to speed informed decision making
Information Sharing Track-
Openly and confidently share the information we need to share to make informed decisions and enact automated responses.
Research Track-
Explore end-state research themes for designed-in security, tailored trustworthy spaces, moving target, and cyber economic incentives.
http://www.fbcinc.com/e/cif/agendagrid.aspx
21 January 2014 06:28
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21 January 2014 05:14
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19 January 2014 21:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
collect similar stories as well
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/12/20/the-object-something-deep-and-mysterious-has-blocked-the-worlds-biggest-tunnel-boring-machine-under-seattle/
SEATTLE — A secret subterranean heart, tinged with mystery and myth, beats beneath the streets in many of the world’s great cities. Tourists seek out the catacombs of Rome, the sewers of Paris and the subway tunnels of New York. Some people believe a den of interstellar aliens lurks beneath Denver International Airport.
Now Seattle, at least for now, has joined that club.
Something unknown, engineers say — and all the more intriguing to many residents for being unknown – has blocked the progress of the biggest-diameter tunnel-boring machine in use on the planet, a high-tech, largely automated wonder called Bertha. At five stories high with a crew of 20, the cigar-shaped behemoth was grinding away underground on a 3-kilometre-long, $3.1-billion highway tunnel under the city’s waterfront Dec. 6 when it encountered something in its path that managers still simply refer to as “the object.”
The object’s composition and provenance remain unknown almost two weeks after first contact because, in a state-of-the-art tunneling machine, as it turns out, you can’t exactly poke your head out the window and look.
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“What we’re focusing on now is creating conditions that will allow us to enter the chamber behind the cutter head and see what the situation is,” Chris Dixon, the project manager at Seattle Tunnel Partners, the construction contractor, said in an interview this week. Dixon said he felt fairly confident that the blockage will turn out to be nothing more or less romantic than a giant boulder, perhaps left over from the Ice Age glaciers that scoured and crushed this corner of the continent 17,000 years ago.
But the unknown is a tantalizing subject. Some residents said they believe, or want to believe, that a piece of old Seattle, buried in the pell-mell rush of city-building in the 1800s, when a mucky waterfront wetland was filled in to make room for commerce, could be Bertha’s big trouble. That theory is bolstered by the fact that the blocked tunnel section is also in the shallowest portion of the route, with the top of the machine only around 45 feet below street grade.
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‘The object’: Something deep and mysterious has blocked the world’s biggest tunnel boring machine under Seattle
Kirk Johnson, Bloomberg News | December 20, 2013 11:12 AM ET
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In this photo made with a fish-eye wide-angle lens, "Bertha," the massive tunnel boring machine which was mysteriously blocked while boring under Seattle.
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SEATTLE — A secret subterranean heart, tinged with mystery and myth, beats beneath the streets in many of the world’s great cities. Tourists seek out the catacombs of Rome, the sewers of Paris and the subway tunnels of New York. Some people believe a den of interstellar aliens lurks beneath Denver International Airport.
Now Seattle, at least for now, has joined that club.
Something unknown, engineers say — and all the more intriguing to many residents for being unknown – has blocked the progress of the biggest-diameter tunnel-boring machine in use on the planet, a high-tech, largely automated wonder called Bertha. At five stories high with a crew of 20, the cigar-shaped behemoth was grinding away underground on a 3-kilometre-long, $3.1-billion highway tunnel under the city’s waterfront Dec. 6 when it encountered something in its path that managers still simply refer to as “the object.”
The object’s composition and provenance remain unknown almost two weeks after first contact because, in a state-of-the-art tunneling machine, as it turns out, you can’t exactly poke your head out the window and look.
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“What we’re focusing on now is creating conditions that will allow us to enter the chamber behind the cutter head and see what the situation is,” Chris Dixon, the project manager at Seattle Tunnel Partners, the construction contractor, said in an interview this week. Dixon said he felt fairly confident that the blockage will turn out to be nothing more or less romantic than a giant boulder, perhaps left over from the Ice Age glaciers that scoured and crushed this corner of the continent 17,000 years ago.
But the unknown is a tantalizing subject. Some residents said they believe, or want to believe, that a piece of old Seattle, buried in the pell-mell rush of city-building in the 1800s, when a mucky waterfront wetland was filled in to make room for commerce, could be Bertha’s big trouble. That theory is bolstered by the fact that the blocked tunnel section is also in the shallowest portion of the route, with the top of the machine only around 45 feet below street grade.
AP Photo/Ted S. Warren
AP Photo/Ted S. WarrenSeveral sections of "Bertha," the massive tunnel boring machine.
“I’m going to believe it’s a piece of Seattle history until proven otherwise,” said Ann Ferguson, the curator of the Seattle Collection at the Seattle Public Library, who said she held out hope for something of 1890s Klondike Gold Rush vintage, when Seattle became the crazed and booming gateway city to the gold fields of Alaska and Canada.
At the downtown storefront museum for the tunnel project, called Milepost 31, visitors are cracking Jimmy Hoffa jokes or spouting theories about buried train engines. Gabe Martin, a sales clerk at a curio shop near the dig site, said he was intrigued by the Prohibition era, when Seattle rode a tide of illegal alcohol smuggled from Canada and people had reason to bury things, not wanting them found.
“Bootlegger stuff,” he said.
Dixon said that efforts to drain water and reduce pressure at the drill head, with a series of bore holes pushed down in recent days, could allow workers to get safe access to the blocked site as early as Friday. But working at atmospheric pressures similar to what a diver would experience, the team could stay down only for short periods, he said, and each visitor would then need time in a decompression chamber.
And there is something of a John Henry’s hammer theme to the tale of Seattle’s object. Bertha is blind as a mole in front, with no forward-facing windows or cameras, so a kind of spacewalk through air-locked doors is required to get to the front of the machine for inspection. And the removal or breaking up of the object is likely to be done with jackhammers or other old-fashioned tools that a tunnel-digging sandhog worker of generations past would recognize.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/12/20/the-object-something-deep-and-mysterious-has-blocked-the-worlds-biggest-tunnel-boring-machine-under-seattle/
SEATTLE — A secret subterranean heart, tinged with mystery and myth, beats beneath the streets in many of the world’s great cities. Tourists seek out the catacombs of Rome, the sewers of Paris and the subway tunnels of New York. Some people believe a den of interstellar aliens lurks beneath Denver International Airport.
Now Seattle, at least for now, has joined that club.
Something unknown, engineers say — and all the more intriguing to many residents for being unknown – has blocked the progress of the biggest-diameter tunnel-boring machine in use on the planet, a high-tech, largely automated wonder called Bertha. At five stories high with a crew of 20, the cigar-shaped behemoth was grinding away underground on a 3-kilometre-long, $3.1-billion highway tunnel under the city’s waterfront Dec. 6 when it encountered something in its path that managers still simply refer to as “the object.”
The object’s composition and provenance remain unknown almost two weeks after first contact because, in a state-of-the-art tunneling machine, as it turns out, you can’t exactly poke your head out the window and look.
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“What we’re focusing on now is creating conditions that will allow us to enter the chamber behind the cutter head and see what the situation is,” Chris Dixon, the project manager at Seattle Tunnel Partners, the construction contractor, said in an interview this week. Dixon said he felt fairly confident that the blockage will turn out to be nothing more or less romantic than a giant boulder, perhaps left over from the Ice Age glaciers that scoured and crushed this corner of the continent 17,000 years ago.
But the unknown is a tantalizing subject. Some residents said they believe, or want to believe, that a piece of old Seattle, buried in the pell-mell rush of city-building in the 1800s, when a mucky waterfront wetland was filled in to make room for commerce, could be Bertha’s big trouble. That theory is bolstered by the fact that the blocked tunnel section is also in the shallowest portion of the route, with the top of the machine only around 45 feet below street grade.
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‘The object’: Something deep and mysterious has blocked the world’s biggest tunnel boring machine under Seattle
Kirk Johnson, Bloomberg News | December 20, 2013 11:12 AM ET
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In this photo made with a fish-eye wide-angle lens, "Bertha," the massive tunnel boring machine which was mysteriously blocked while boring under Seattle.
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SEATTLE — A secret subterranean heart, tinged with mystery and myth, beats beneath the streets in many of the world’s great cities. Tourists seek out the catacombs of Rome, the sewers of Paris and the subway tunnels of New York. Some people believe a den of interstellar aliens lurks beneath Denver International Airport.
Now Seattle, at least for now, has joined that club.
Something unknown, engineers say — and all the more intriguing to many residents for being unknown – has blocked the progress of the biggest-diameter tunnel-boring machine in use on the planet, a high-tech, largely automated wonder called Bertha. At five stories high with a crew of 20, the cigar-shaped behemoth was grinding away underground on a 3-kilometre-long, $3.1-billion highway tunnel under the city’s waterfront Dec. 6 when it encountered something in its path that managers still simply refer to as “the object.”
The object’s composition and provenance remain unknown almost two weeks after first contact because, in a state-of-the-art tunneling machine, as it turns out, you can’t exactly poke your head out the window and look.
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“What we’re focusing on now is creating conditions that will allow us to enter the chamber behind the cutter head and see what the situation is,” Chris Dixon, the project manager at Seattle Tunnel Partners, the construction contractor, said in an interview this week. Dixon said he felt fairly confident that the blockage will turn out to be nothing more or less romantic than a giant boulder, perhaps left over from the Ice Age glaciers that scoured and crushed this corner of the continent 17,000 years ago.
But the unknown is a tantalizing subject. Some residents said they believe, or want to believe, that a piece of old Seattle, buried in the pell-mell rush of city-building in the 1800s, when a mucky waterfront wetland was filled in to make room for commerce, could be Bertha’s big trouble. That theory is bolstered by the fact that the blocked tunnel section is also in the shallowest portion of the route, with the top of the machine only around 45 feet below street grade.
AP Photo/Ted S. Warren
AP Photo/Ted S. WarrenSeveral sections of "Bertha," the massive tunnel boring machine.
“I’m going to believe it’s a piece of Seattle history until proven otherwise,” said Ann Ferguson, the curator of the Seattle Collection at the Seattle Public Library, who said she held out hope for something of 1890s Klondike Gold Rush vintage, when Seattle became the crazed and booming gateway city to the gold fields of Alaska and Canada.
At the downtown storefront museum for the tunnel project, called Milepost 31, visitors are cracking Jimmy Hoffa jokes or spouting theories about buried train engines. Gabe Martin, a sales clerk at a curio shop near the dig site, said he was intrigued by the Prohibition era, when Seattle rode a tide of illegal alcohol smuggled from Canada and people had reason to bury things, not wanting them found.
“Bootlegger stuff,” he said.
Dixon said that efforts to drain water and reduce pressure at the drill head, with a series of bore holes pushed down in recent days, could allow workers to get safe access to the blocked site as early as Friday. But working at atmospheric pressures similar to what a diver would experience, the team could stay down only for short periods, he said, and each visitor would then need time in a decompression chamber.
And there is something of a John Henry’s hammer theme to the tale of Seattle’s object. Bertha is blind as a mole in front, with no forward-facing windows or cameras, so a kind of spacewalk through air-locked doors is required to get to the front of the machine for inspection. And the removal or breaking up of the object is likely to be done with jackhammers or other old-fashioned tools that a tunnel-digging sandhog worker of generations past would recognize.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/12/20/the-object-something-deep-and-mysterious-has-blocked-the-worlds-biggest-tunnel-boring-machine-under-seattle/
19 January 2014 12:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
*(he really likes this same tie...)
Re-post of same once more
I am well aware that just because somebody (no matter what their ‘position’) says something to be true, does not mean it’s true. Exceptions, however can be made if there is evidence that goes beyond their words and correlates with what they say. At the end of the day, you have to listen to what your heart tells you.
Paul Hellyer was the Canadian Minister of National Defense in the 1960′s during the cold war. He was responsible for combining the Canadian Air Force, Navy and Army into what is known today as the Canadian Forces. He was the highest ranking person (on paper) inside of the Department of Defence for Canada. The Honorable Paul Hellyer is the highest ranking person among all g8 countries to openly speak about UFOs and extraterrestrials.
He has been speaking about UFOs and extraterrestrials for quite some time now, and he recently made an appearance on RT news stating that there are at least 4 known alien species that have been visiting Earth for thousands of years.
Upon retirement, Hellyer began to blow the whistle on UFOs and extraterrestrials. His testimony is backed up by hundreds of other high ranking military and political personnel all over the world, including official documents released by dozens of governments worldwide that have officially acknowledged the presence of UFOs.
I think it’s also important to point out that the Canadian government recently acknowledged the fact that various federal agencies, including Transport Canada, the RCMP and the Department of National Defence used to track and investigate UFO sightings. (1) They claim to have stopped those programs, but that contradicts the defence minister’s (Hellyer) claims. There is good reason to believe, and a lot of evidence to suggest that some of these UFOs are indeed extraterrestrial space craft (not all military), and the activities of the agencies responsible for these programs goes far beyond just tracking of UFOs, but into contact with various extraterrestrial races, other classified technological developments and more.
Here is some of what Paul Hellyer has to say, for more you can watch the video clip below:
” In one of the cases during the cold war, 1961, there were about 50 UFOs in formation flying South from Russia across Europe. The supreme allied commander was very concerned and was about ready to press the panic button when they turned around and went back over the North Pole. They decided to do an investigation and they investigated for three years and they decided that with absolute certainty that four different species, at least, have been visiting this planet for thousands of years. There’s been a lot more activity in the past two decades, especially since we invented the atomic bomb. They are very concerned about that and if we will use it again, because the whole cosmos is a unity and it affects not just us but other people in the cosmos. They’re very much afraid that we might start using atomic weapons again and this would be very bad for us, and them also.” – Paul Hellyer
“Many are benign and benevolent, and a few are not. They come from various places, for a long while I only knew about ones that came from different star systems, the Pleadies. There are extraterrestrials that come from Andromeda, and ones that live on one of Saturn’s moon’s. There is a federation of these people, and they have rules, one of them is that they don’t interfere with our affairs unless they are invited. They have accepted the fact that this is our planet, and we have the right to run it but they are very concerned, they don’t think that we are good stewards of our planet. We are ruining our planet, we’re doing all sorts of things that we shouldn’t be doing, and they don’t like that. They’ve made it clear, and they have given us a warning.” – Paul Hellyer
“Decades ago, visitors from other planets warned us about the direction we were heading and offered to help. Instead, some of us interpreted their visits as a threat, and decided to shoot first and ask questions after. It is ironic that the US should be fighting monstrously expensive wars, allegedly to bring democracy to those countries, when it itself can no longer claim to be called a democracy when trillions, and I mean thousands of billions of dollars have been spent on black projects which both congress and the commander in chief have been kept deliberately in the dark.” – Paul Hellyer
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/01/06/at-least-4-known-alien-species-have-been-visiting-earth-for-thousands-of-years-x-canadian-defence-minister-continues-to-blow-the-whistle/
Re-post of same once more
I am well aware that just because somebody (no matter what their ‘position’) says something to be true, does not mean it’s true. Exceptions, however can be made if there is evidence that goes beyond their words and correlates with what they say. At the end of the day, you have to listen to what your heart tells you.
Paul Hellyer was the Canadian Minister of National Defense in the 1960′s during the cold war. He was responsible for combining the Canadian Air Force, Navy and Army into what is known today as the Canadian Forces. He was the highest ranking person (on paper) inside of the Department of Defence for Canada. The Honorable Paul Hellyer is the highest ranking person among all g8 countries to openly speak about UFOs and extraterrestrials.
He has been speaking about UFOs and extraterrestrials for quite some time now, and he recently made an appearance on RT news stating that there are at least 4 known alien species that have been visiting Earth for thousands of years.
Upon retirement, Hellyer began to blow the whistle on UFOs and extraterrestrials. His testimony is backed up by hundreds of other high ranking military and political personnel all over the world, including official documents released by dozens of governments worldwide that have officially acknowledged the presence of UFOs.
I think it’s also important to point out that the Canadian government recently acknowledged the fact that various federal agencies, including Transport Canada, the RCMP and the Department of National Defence used to track and investigate UFO sightings. (1) They claim to have stopped those programs, but that contradicts the defence minister’s (Hellyer) claims. There is good reason to believe, and a lot of evidence to suggest that some of these UFOs are indeed extraterrestrial space craft (not all military), and the activities of the agencies responsible for these programs goes far beyond just tracking of UFOs, but into contact with various extraterrestrial races, other classified technological developments and more.
Here is some of what Paul Hellyer has to say, for more you can watch the video clip below:
” In one of the cases during the cold war, 1961, there were about 50 UFOs in formation flying South from Russia across Europe. The supreme allied commander was very concerned and was about ready to press the panic button when they turned around and went back over the North Pole. They decided to do an investigation and they investigated for three years and they decided that with absolute certainty that four different species, at least, have been visiting this planet for thousands of years. There’s been a lot more activity in the past two decades, especially since we invented the atomic bomb. They are very concerned about that and if we will use it again, because the whole cosmos is a unity and it affects not just us but other people in the cosmos. They’re very much afraid that we might start using atomic weapons again and this would be very bad for us, and them also.” – Paul Hellyer
“Many are benign and benevolent, and a few are not. They come from various places, for a long while I only knew about ones that came from different star systems, the Pleadies. There are extraterrestrials that come from Andromeda, and ones that live on one of Saturn’s moon’s. There is a federation of these people, and they have rules, one of them is that they don’t interfere with our affairs unless they are invited. They have accepted the fact that this is our planet, and we have the right to run it but they are very concerned, they don’t think that we are good stewards of our planet. We are ruining our planet, we’re doing all sorts of things that we shouldn’t be doing, and they don’t like that. They’ve made it clear, and they have given us a warning.” – Paul Hellyer
“Decades ago, visitors from other planets warned us about the direction we were heading and offered to help. Instead, some of us interpreted their visits as a threat, and decided to shoot first and ask questions after. It is ironic that the US should be fighting monstrously expensive wars, allegedly to bring democracy to those countries, when it itself can no longer claim to be called a democracy when trillions, and I mean thousands of billions of dollars have been spent on black projects which both congress and the commander in chief have been kept deliberately in the dark.” – Paul Hellyer
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/01/06/at-least-4-known-alien-species-have-been-visiting-earth-for-thousands-of-years-x-canadian-defence-minister-continues-to-blow-the-whistle/
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/01/06/at-least-4-known-alien-species-have-been-visiting-earth-for-thousands-of-years-x-canadian-defence-minister-continues-to-blow-the-whistle/
19 January 2014 12:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
hey don’t like that and they made it very clear. As a matter of fact they have given us a warning.
SS: How?
PH: This has come from more than one source…
SS: How have they made it clear, what have they done?
PH: They have talked to people. One of the chaps I’ve talked with about a month ago was interacting with them in 1974, he and his brother, in Peru. They were taken to Andromedia, teleported. They were told what people there think and that we’re really wrecking our planet and in fact that something dreadful is going to happen to it if we don’t smarten up and change our ways. We spend too much time fighting each other, we spend too much money on military expenditures, and not enough on feeding the poor and looking after the homeless and the sick, and that we are polluting our waters and our air and that we’re playing around with these exotic weapons, thermonuclear weapons and atomic weapons, which have such devastating effects both on Earth and other areas of Cosmos. They don’t like that and that’s the reason they would like to work with us, to teach us better ways, but only, I think, with our consent. They work through individuals; they try and pick out individuals who won’t be frightened to death by them, because they can get you quite afraid. One of the cases I’m familiar with was with the Tall Whites in Nevada, where the US airman working with them was just frightened to death of them, and one, Charles Hall, rescued the daughter of one of the high-up people in the Tall White and as result became very good friends with the mother, and as soon as they could trust each other, they had a wonderful relationship. He wrote a book about it, called “Millennial Hospitality” – it tells you how you go through these stages, of being scared out of your wits, but then, when you establish a trust and a working relationship –you can have the same kind of relationship that you would have with someone here on Earth.
SS: But here’s what I’m thinking: if you are outing their presence, which is clearly not what they want, since they are hiding, why aren’t you afraid of repercussions? You are obviously stating that they are here, among us, telling me all these species that exist…
PH: They are here among us and I’m not afraid because in most cases, as far as technology is concerned, they are light years ahead of us, and we have learned a lot of things from them. A lot of the things we use today we got from them, you know – led lights and microchips and Kevlar vests and all sorts things that we got from their technology and we could get a lot more too, especially in the fields of medicine and agriculture if we would go about it peacefully. But, I think, maybe some of our people are more interested in getting the military technology, and I think that’s wrong-headed, and that’s one of the things that we are going to have to change, because we’re going to have to work together, all of us, everywhere on the planet.
SS: You’ve mentioned military technology and swapping technologies and barters in-between aliens and people in American government. I want to ask you as a former minister of Defense of Canada – is interstellar war a possibility? Should we be creating a Star Wars force to defend ourselves from possible invasion or something like that?
PH: I think it’s a possibility, but it’s a possibility especially if we shoot down every UFO that comes into our airspace without asking who they are and what they want. Right from the beginning we started scrambling planes, trying to shoot them down, but their technology was superior enough that we weren’t able to get away with it, certainly not for a long while. During that period of time they could have taken us over without any trouble if they wanted to, so I think, rather than developing our own Star Wars to protect ourselves against them, we should work with the benign species that are of a vast majority and work together, and rely largely on them, of course, and cooperate, so that we would be contributing something at the same time; I don’t think there’s any point in us developing a galactic force that would tempt us to ride on our own and get into mischief, which is one of the things that some of them are concerned about.
SS: What do you expect to happen if people start to believe in alien existence on Earth? Things are definitely going to change: our lives aren’t going to be the same anymore.
PH: I hope that’s the case. I am all for full disclosure, and I’m going to push very hard for full disclosure in the book I’m writing, to give some reasons for it, things that we really have to know and have a right to know. Our future as a species, and here I mean all of the species in the world, is potentially at risk if we don’t figure what’s going on and work together to try and make life more amenable for all of us, and to work with our neighbors from other planets as well.
SS: Still, I’m thinking to myself – if they’ve been here for such a long time as you say, and they are interested in helping humanity, as you say, why is our world such a mess? If you want help someone, you just help someone, you don’t wait for that someone to invite you to help that someone, no?
PH: I think parents sometime say to their children – “this is what you should do”, but that doesn’t mean children are going to do it, does it? The Cosmos is based on free choice. We’re given the option of making mistakes, of making wrong choices, and I guess, what bothers some of us, is that we’ve made too many wrong choices, and not enough right choices. So we’re going to have to start switching our priorities and stop spending so much time and effort on weapons to kill each other, or to dominate each other, and spend a lot more time on how to help each other to have a better life and a more just society, and life which is healthier. When the healthcare is better and when the food distribution is better and when the air is cleaner and water is cleaner and all of those things that are waiting to be done, if we just get together and, as we say, row in the right direction, in the same direction, it’s possible, but it’s a tall order and so far we haven’t done it. My thesis is that we have to do it, we have to start doing it right away.
SS: Thank you so much for this interesting interview and insight on extraterrestrial life. That was Paul Hellyer, a former Canadian minister of Defense, who says aliens exist and live among us on Earth. That's all the time we have for today, I will see you in the next edition of Sophie&Co.
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SS: How?
PH: This has come from more than one source…
SS: How have they made it clear, what have they done?
PH: They have talked to people. One of the chaps I’ve talked with about a month ago was interacting with them in 1974, he and his brother, in Peru. They were taken to Andromedia, teleported. They were told what people there think and that we’re really wrecking our planet and in fact that something dreadful is going to happen to it if we don’t smarten up and change our ways. We spend too much time fighting each other, we spend too much money on military expenditures, and not enough on feeding the poor and looking after the homeless and the sick, and that we are polluting our waters and our air and that we’re playing around with these exotic weapons, thermonuclear weapons and atomic weapons, which have such devastating effects both on Earth and other areas of Cosmos. They don’t like that and that’s the reason they would like to work with us, to teach us better ways, but only, I think, with our consent. They work through individuals; they try and pick out individuals who won’t be frightened to death by them, because they can get you quite afraid. One of the cases I’m familiar with was with the Tall Whites in Nevada, where the US airman working with them was just frightened to death of them, and one, Charles Hall, rescued the daughter of one of the high-up people in the Tall White and as result became very good friends with the mother, and as soon as they could trust each other, they had a wonderful relationship. He wrote a book about it, called “Millennial Hospitality” – it tells you how you go through these stages, of being scared out of your wits, but then, when you establish a trust and a working relationship –you can have the same kind of relationship that you would have with someone here on Earth.
SS: But here’s what I’m thinking: if you are outing their presence, which is clearly not what they want, since they are hiding, why aren’t you afraid of repercussions? You are obviously stating that they are here, among us, telling me all these species that exist…
PH: They are here among us and I’m not afraid because in most cases, as far as technology is concerned, they are light years ahead of us, and we have learned a lot of things from them. A lot of the things we use today we got from them, you know – led lights and microchips and Kevlar vests and all sorts things that we got from their technology and we could get a lot more too, especially in the fields of medicine and agriculture if we would go about it peacefully. But, I think, maybe some of our people are more interested in getting the military technology, and I think that’s wrong-headed, and that’s one of the things that we are going to have to change, because we’re going to have to work together, all of us, everywhere on the planet.
SS: You’ve mentioned military technology and swapping technologies and barters in-between aliens and people in American government. I want to ask you as a former minister of Defense of Canada – is interstellar war a possibility? Should we be creating a Star Wars force to defend ourselves from possible invasion or something like that?
PH: I think it’s a possibility, but it’s a possibility especially if we shoot down every UFO that comes into our airspace without asking who they are and what they want. Right from the beginning we started scrambling planes, trying to shoot them down, but their technology was superior enough that we weren’t able to get away with it, certainly not for a long while. During that period of time they could have taken us over without any trouble if they wanted to, so I think, rather than developing our own Star Wars to protect ourselves against them, we should work with the benign species that are of a vast majority and work together, and rely largely on them, of course, and cooperate, so that we would be contributing something at the same time; I don’t think there’s any point in us developing a galactic force that would tempt us to ride on our own and get into mischief, which is one of the things that some of them are concerned about.
SS: What do you expect to happen if people start to believe in alien existence on Earth? Things are definitely going to change: our lives aren’t going to be the same anymore.
PH: I hope that’s the case. I am all for full disclosure, and I’m going to push very hard for full disclosure in the book I’m writing, to give some reasons for it, things that we really have to know and have a right to know. Our future as a species, and here I mean all of the species in the world, is potentially at risk if we don’t figure what’s going on and work together to try and make life more amenable for all of us, and to work with our neighbors from other planets as well.
SS: Still, I’m thinking to myself – if they’ve been here for such a long time as you say, and they are interested in helping humanity, as you say, why is our world such a mess? If you want help someone, you just help someone, you don’t wait for that someone to invite you to help that someone, no?
PH: I think parents sometime say to their children – “this is what you should do”, but that doesn’t mean children are going to do it, does it? The Cosmos is based on free choice. We’re given the option of making mistakes, of making wrong choices, and I guess, what bothers some of us, is that we’ve made too many wrong choices, and not enough right choices. So we’re going to have to start switching our priorities and stop spending so much time and effort on weapons to kill each other, or to dominate each other, and spend a lot more time on how to help each other to have a better life and a more just society, and life which is healthier. When the healthcare is better and when the food distribution is better and when the air is cleaner and water is cleaner and all of those things that are waiting to be done, if we just get together and, as we say, row in the right direction, in the same direction, it’s possible, but it’s a tall order and so far we haven’t done it. My thesis is that we have to do it, we have to start doing it right away.
SS: Thank you so much for this interesting interview and insight on extraterrestrial life. That was Paul Hellyer, a former Canadian minister of Defense, who says aliens exist and live among us on Earth. That's all the time we have for today, I will see you in the next edition of Sophie&Co.
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19 January 2014 12:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
SS: See, the problem is that some who report UFOs sightings and alien abductions have been shown to make things up to be famous, to make money – or just for a prank. How do we tell fiction from a fact?
PH: You have to spend a lot of time trying to find…we use to say “separating wheat from the chaff”, and it takes a lot of effort. When I was minister I got sighting reports and when we checked them out, about 80 percent, 8 out of 10, were not real, they were sights of Venus or of plasma or a dozen other things, but there were 15 percent or 20 percent for which there was no explanation and they were the genuine unidentified flying objects. One of the conferences I went to… it was in Las Vegas… was promoted by chap who had written a book about crashes and there were dozens and dozens of them and many of them very-very well authenticated, so it would be impossible to read of that evidence and not come to the conclusion that these vehicles were real.
SS: Have you ever had your own encounter with aliens?
PH: Not encounter with aliens, no. I’ve seen a UFO, about 120 miles north of Toronto, over Lake Muskoka, where I have a cottage. Two years ago, at Thanksgiving, which is October, [my wife?] said that she wanted to go out and look at the stars, so…I’m not much of a night man… but I put on my cap and went out with her and she looked into the eastern sky and said, “There’s a star” and I turned the other way and said, “Oh, there’s a much brighter one over here” and she looked there and we watched it until our necks almost broke for about 20 minutes, and it was definitely a UFO because it could change position in the sky by three or four degrees in three or four seconds. I checked out – there were no satellites that could do that, a space station wasn’t going by and it isn’t able to move that fast anyway and there was no other explanation except that it was the real thing. Two days later I went down in the dark, got a comfortable chair, and watched. It came back almost at the same spot and entertained me for as long as I could take it. Then I went back to the cottage but it was very interesting because it would drop down in the sky and then it would roar back up and it would shift across a few degrees and do a circle and come back at just an astronomical speed, since you know they travel very-very fast.
SS: So does it just look like a falling star that falls really quickly and then rises again? What does it look like?
PH: Well, it looked just like a star.
SS: It looks just like a star?
PH: I don’t know if you personally have ever read the Bible or not but I think the star of Bethlehem was one of God’s flying saucers.
SS: You also told me that people write you emails, three to five emails a week, and they’ve actually been abducted or they had encounters with aliens. Do they actually tell you what these aliens look like? I mean, everyone’s interested – how would I know if I see an alien and he abducts me?
PH: First question you have to ask is how many species are there? I used to think there were between two and twelve. Apollo astronaut, Edgar Mitchell, who came to Toronto a few years ago and had dinner with us agreed there were something around two and twelve, but the latest reports that I’ve been getting from various sources are that there are about 80 different species and some of them look just like us and they could walk down the street and you wouldn’t know if you walked past one. They are what we call “Nordic blondes” and also the Tall Whites who were actually working with the US air force in Nevada. They’re able to get away with that, they had a couple of their ladies dressed as nuns go into Las Vegas to shop and they weren’t detected. I have a friend who saw one of the men walking along the street, he is somebody who can recognize that they were different, and he did. Then there’s the Short Grey’s as they are called, and they are the ones you see in most of the cartoons, they have very-very slim arms and legs, they are very short, just a little over 5 feet, and they have a great big head and great big brown eyes. But, there are different species and you have to know that they are different species and know that they all are different. If you saw the Short Greys you’d certainly know there’s something up that you’ve never seen before, but if you saw one of the Nordic Blondes, you’d probably say “Oh I wonder if she’s from Denmark or somewhere.”
SS: So these species that you are describing – are they all different in terms of nice and mean? Are some of them nice and benevolent and others nasty, how are they? Are they good to people on Earth or are they here to harm them?
PH: It’s a difficult question to answer, because they have different agendas and maybe all of us on Earth should have the same agenda, but you couldn’t say, maybe, that Russia and China and the US all had the same agenda at every turn, because they don’t. I would say that nearly all are benign and benevolent and they do want to help us, there may be one or two species which do not. That’s one of the things I’m investigating at the moment, to see who they are, what they are up to and what their agendas really are.
SS: These extraterrestrial creatures – where did they come from and how did they get here, to Earth?
PH: They come from various places. For a long while I only knew about ones who came from different star systems – the Pleadis, Zeta Reticuli and several other star systems…but in the past few months I have met [those] who made me aware that there are some in our star system, and that there are actually extraterrestrials who live on a planet called Andromedia, which is one of the moons of Saturn and that there are others on Venus and some on Mars and that they may be interacting between themselves – I suspect that they are because there is what is called a “Federation” of these people and they have rules. For example, one of the rules is that they don’t interfere with our affairs unless there are invited to – and that’s one of the reasons, probably, that we haven’t seen more of them until very recently…
SS: But, what do you mean, there are lots of people who want to interact with them, there are a lot of people who actually want to see them and to know who they are. What, do they need a special invitation to interact with us? What does it mean – “they don’t want to interfere with our affairs”?
PH: They don’t want to tell us how to run our affairs, they have accepted the fact that this is our planet, and that we have the right to run it, but they are very-very concerned: they don’t think we are good stewards of our planet, we’re clear cutting our forests, we’re polluting our rivers and our lakes, and we’re dumping sewage in the oceans, and we’re doing all sorts of things which are not what good stewards of their homes should be doing. T
PH: You have to spend a lot of time trying to find…we use to say “separating wheat from the chaff”, and it takes a lot of effort. When I was minister I got sighting reports and when we checked them out, about 80 percent, 8 out of 10, were not real, they were sights of Venus or of plasma or a dozen other things, but there were 15 percent or 20 percent for which there was no explanation and they were the genuine unidentified flying objects. One of the conferences I went to… it was in Las Vegas… was promoted by chap who had written a book about crashes and there were dozens and dozens of them and many of them very-very well authenticated, so it would be impossible to read of that evidence and not come to the conclusion that these vehicles were real.
SS: Have you ever had your own encounter with aliens?
PH: Not encounter with aliens, no. I’ve seen a UFO, about 120 miles north of Toronto, over Lake Muskoka, where I have a cottage. Two years ago, at Thanksgiving, which is October, [my wife?] said that she wanted to go out and look at the stars, so…I’m not much of a night man… but I put on my cap and went out with her and she looked into the eastern sky and said, “There’s a star” and I turned the other way and said, “Oh, there’s a much brighter one over here” and she looked there and we watched it until our necks almost broke for about 20 minutes, and it was definitely a UFO because it could change position in the sky by three or four degrees in three or four seconds. I checked out – there were no satellites that could do that, a space station wasn’t going by and it isn’t able to move that fast anyway and there was no other explanation except that it was the real thing. Two days later I went down in the dark, got a comfortable chair, and watched. It came back almost at the same spot and entertained me for as long as I could take it. Then I went back to the cottage but it was very interesting because it would drop down in the sky and then it would roar back up and it would shift across a few degrees and do a circle and come back at just an astronomical speed, since you know they travel very-very fast.
SS: So does it just look like a falling star that falls really quickly and then rises again? What does it look like?
PH: Well, it looked just like a star.
SS: It looks just like a star?
PH: I don’t know if you personally have ever read the Bible or not but I think the star of Bethlehem was one of God’s flying saucers.
SS: You also told me that people write you emails, three to five emails a week, and they’ve actually been abducted or they had encounters with aliens. Do they actually tell you what these aliens look like? I mean, everyone’s interested – how would I know if I see an alien and he abducts me?
PH: First question you have to ask is how many species are there? I used to think there were between two and twelve. Apollo astronaut, Edgar Mitchell, who came to Toronto a few years ago and had dinner with us agreed there were something around two and twelve, but the latest reports that I’ve been getting from various sources are that there are about 80 different species and some of them look just like us and they could walk down the street and you wouldn’t know if you walked past one. They are what we call “Nordic blondes” and also the Tall Whites who were actually working with the US air force in Nevada. They’re able to get away with that, they had a couple of their ladies dressed as nuns go into Las Vegas to shop and they weren’t detected. I have a friend who saw one of the men walking along the street, he is somebody who can recognize that they were different, and he did. Then there’s the Short Grey’s as they are called, and they are the ones you see in most of the cartoons, they have very-very slim arms and legs, they are very short, just a little over 5 feet, and they have a great big head and great big brown eyes. But, there are different species and you have to know that they are different species and know that they all are different. If you saw the Short Greys you’d certainly know there’s something up that you’ve never seen before, but if you saw one of the Nordic Blondes, you’d probably say “Oh I wonder if she’s from Denmark or somewhere.”
SS: So these species that you are describing – are they all different in terms of nice and mean? Are some of them nice and benevolent and others nasty, how are they? Are they good to people on Earth or are they here to harm them?
PH: It’s a difficult question to answer, because they have different agendas and maybe all of us on Earth should have the same agenda, but you couldn’t say, maybe, that Russia and China and the US all had the same agenda at every turn, because they don’t. I would say that nearly all are benign and benevolent and they do want to help us, there may be one or two species which do not. That’s one of the things I’m investigating at the moment, to see who they are, what they are up to and what their agendas really are.
SS: These extraterrestrial creatures – where did they come from and how did they get here, to Earth?
PH: They come from various places. For a long while I only knew about ones who came from different star systems – the Pleadis, Zeta Reticuli and several other star systems…but in the past few months I have met [those] who made me aware that there are some in our star system, and that there are actually extraterrestrials who live on a planet called Andromedia, which is one of the moons of Saturn and that there are others on Venus and some on Mars and that they may be interacting between themselves – I suspect that they are because there is what is called a “Federation” of these people and they have rules. For example, one of the rules is that they don’t interfere with our affairs unless there are invited to – and that’s one of the reasons, probably, that we haven’t seen more of them until very recently…
SS: But, what do you mean, there are lots of people who want to interact with them, there are a lot of people who actually want to see them and to know who they are. What, do they need a special invitation to interact with us? What does it mean – “they don’t want to interfere with our affairs”?
PH: They don’t want to tell us how to run our affairs, they have accepted the fact that this is our planet, and that we have the right to run it, but they are very-very concerned: they don’t think we are good stewards of our planet, we’re clear cutting our forests, we’re polluting our rivers and our lakes, and we’re dumping sewage in the oceans, and we’re doing all sorts of things which are not what good stewards of their homes should be doing. T
19 January 2014 12:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Note:
This report has been wired from Whatdoesitmean.com. As you can see, we have both mentioned and hyperlinked the source of this report and also released it in the wire section of our website to notify our viewers that all responsibility for the veracity, authenticity and reliability of this report lies with its original source, whatdoesitmean.com.
The wired report further mentioned that former Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer has confirmed Snowden's remarks and expressed his supportive views in an interview with Russia Today after he was given access to all of Snowden's documents by Russian intelligence services. To help our readers with more relevant sources of information we included the video of Hellyer's interview with RT, where he said extraterrestrial beings are amongst us and if we down at least one UFO, we'll be facing an interstellar war, and that Apollo astronaut, Edgar Mitchell, told him there were something around two and twelve spices of aliens visiting the Earth, and that the aliens have provided people in the American government with military technology. The interview had been released on December 30, 2013 that is a few days before the whatdoesitmean report.
Yet, again this does not mean that we support or reject Hellyer's views.
What is interesting here is how professional media outlets in the West, who are well informed of the wiring rules and technique, have tried hard to attribute the story to FNA in naive forms, ignoring the hyperlinked source and the RT video completely, and the first western media which rushed to make some use of this story to somehow link it to the worldview of a part of the Iranian political community was Washington Post, while a brief look at the archives of the western media outlets shows how they were trying to convince the world for even two decades after the World War II that Hitler and the Nazi Germany were driven by extraterrestrial beings. A February 1957 report by Reuters and Washington Post went so far to say that the Nazi Germany developed flying saucers that could flew 1,000 miles an hour to invade the US.
Most western media outlets have either completely ignored the RT video and the wired nature of this report, or mentioned its original source only at the end of their stories to first convince their readers that the story fully belongs to FNA.
And to those of you who may ask why we have basically carried this story, we should say that FNA has been seeking to inform its viewers of those stories which are ignored by the mainstream media, specially in the West. A part of our daily efforts is focused on such reports. In doing so, we sometimes try to cover some – specially controversial - topics with different reports to give our viewers a chance to study them from various perspectives. When the Occupy Wall Street Movement was ignored by the mainstream media in the West, we were almost among the first in the world to cover it on a daily basis for months.
http://www.examiner.com/article/prism-mining-ufo-data-targets-false-flag-et-invasion-as-pretext-to-space-wars
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13921022000210
It is also interesting that on the same day that the whatdoesitmean story was released, we also wired a report, 'PRISM Mining UFO Data, Targets False Flag ET Invasion as Pretext to Space Wars', from Examiner to provide an opportunity for our viewers to deal with this topic from a different perspective; yet again the mainstream media in the West which is looking for a scapegoat to blame Iran and the Iranians ignored it completely.
Finally, some of our viewers have complained that they have not been able to view the video and demanded a script of the Former Canadian Defense Minister's statements. For those of our viewers, here is the full text of Mr. Hellyer's remarks according to Russia Today:
Paul Hellyer was Canadian Minister of Defense in 1960s, ruling over the country's armed forces during the time of the Cold War – and when he retired he publicly stated that we are not alone in the universe, and some guests from outer space actually live here, on planet Earth. Is this fantasy? Is someone actually watching us? Today we ask the man who says UFOs are a serious business – Paul Hellyer.
Sophie Shevardnadze: Our guest today is the Honorable Paul Hellyer, former minister of Defense of Canada, and he believes that life forms from space are present on Earth. It’s great to have you on our show. Why do you say that UFOs are as real as airplanes flying over our heads?
Paul Hellyer: Because I know that they are. As a matter of fact, they’ve been visiting our planet for thousands of years and one of the cases that would interest you most if you give me two or three minutes to answer is that during the Cold War, 1961, there were about 50 UFOs in formation flying south from Russia across Europe, and Supreme Allied Command was very concerned and about ready to press the 'Panic' button when they turned around and went back over the North Pole. They decided to do an investigation and they investigated for 3 years and they decided that, with absolute certainty, four species - at least – had been visiting this planet for thousands of years. We have a long history of UFOs and of course there has been a lot more activity in the last few decades, since we invented the atomic bomb and they are very concerned about that and the fact that we might use it again, and because the Cosmos is a unity and it affects not just us but other people in the Cosmos, they are very much afraid that we might be stupid enough to start using atomic weapons again, and this would be very bad for us and for them as well.
SS: No serious scientist has ever publicly confirmed evidence of an encounter with extra-terrestrials – why would scientists not confirm the facts if they exist?
PH: I'm afraid they must go out of their way not to find out. Even if they do 10 percent of the amount of research I’ve done in the last 8 years they would be as convinced as I am. I mean, they could do it even faster. Might take it a little longer, when they didn’t have military background, but there are so many wonderful books that tell these stories and they’ve been authenticated; the sightings have been authenticated by more than one witness and also by radar, and they have landed in various places around the world, including Russia. There’s famous case there, I can’t remember the name of the place, but it was widely reported at the time, a man wrote a book about it and then the French bought the book rights so it wouldn’t be circulated around… There’s just so much evidence, if anybody will take a time off to do a little bit of research and study. Some people are interested and will take the time, and the others just say “Oh, you know it’s just fantasy”. Since I’ve been public on this subject I get probably three or four emails a week from all over the world, from people who’ve actually witnessed sightings, and some of them who’ve actually been on the ships, and some of them who’ve actually been transported to another planet. This information… it is top secret in a way that governments don’t talk about it, but if you listen to whistleblowers and to the people who have worked in the industry, and who know what is going on, there’s just a lot of information out there and it doesn’t take very long to get your hands on it.
This report has been wired from Whatdoesitmean.com. As you can see, we have both mentioned and hyperlinked the source of this report and also released it in the wire section of our website to notify our viewers that all responsibility for the veracity, authenticity and reliability of this report lies with its original source, whatdoesitmean.com.
The wired report further mentioned that former Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer has confirmed Snowden's remarks and expressed his supportive views in an interview with Russia Today after he was given access to all of Snowden's documents by Russian intelligence services. To help our readers with more relevant sources of information we included the video of Hellyer's interview with RT, where he said extraterrestrial beings are amongst us and if we down at least one UFO, we'll be facing an interstellar war, and that Apollo astronaut, Edgar Mitchell, told him there were something around two and twelve spices of aliens visiting the Earth, and that the aliens have provided people in the American government with military technology. The interview had been released on December 30, 2013 that is a few days before the whatdoesitmean report.
Yet, again this does not mean that we support or reject Hellyer's views.
What is interesting here is how professional media outlets in the West, who are well informed of the wiring rules and technique, have tried hard to attribute the story to FNA in naive forms, ignoring the hyperlinked source and the RT video completely, and the first western media which rushed to make some use of this story to somehow link it to the worldview of a part of the Iranian political community was Washington Post, while a brief look at the archives of the western media outlets shows how they were trying to convince the world for even two decades after the World War II that Hitler and the Nazi Germany were driven by extraterrestrial beings. A February 1957 report by Reuters and Washington Post went so far to say that the Nazi Germany developed flying saucers that could flew 1,000 miles an hour to invade the US.
Most western media outlets have either completely ignored the RT video and the wired nature of this report, or mentioned its original source only at the end of their stories to first convince their readers that the story fully belongs to FNA.
And to those of you who may ask why we have basically carried this story, we should say that FNA has been seeking to inform its viewers of those stories which are ignored by the mainstream media, specially in the West. A part of our daily efforts is focused on such reports. In doing so, we sometimes try to cover some – specially controversial - topics with different reports to give our viewers a chance to study them from various perspectives. When the Occupy Wall Street Movement was ignored by the mainstream media in the West, we were almost among the first in the world to cover it on a daily basis for months.
http://www.examiner.com/article/prism-mining-ufo-data-targets-false-flag-et-invasion-as-pretext-to-space-wars
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13921022000210
It is also interesting that on the same day that the whatdoesitmean story was released, we also wired a report, 'PRISM Mining UFO Data, Targets False Flag ET Invasion as Pretext to Space Wars', from Examiner to provide an opportunity for our viewers to deal with this topic from a different perspective; yet again the mainstream media in the West which is looking for a scapegoat to blame Iran and the Iranians ignored it completely.
Finally, some of our viewers have complained that they have not been able to view the video and demanded a script of the Former Canadian Defense Minister's statements. For those of our viewers, here is the full text of Mr. Hellyer's remarks according to Russia Today:
Paul Hellyer was Canadian Minister of Defense in 1960s, ruling over the country's armed forces during the time of the Cold War – and when he retired he publicly stated that we are not alone in the universe, and some guests from outer space actually live here, on planet Earth. Is this fantasy? Is someone actually watching us? Today we ask the man who says UFOs are a serious business – Paul Hellyer.
Sophie Shevardnadze: Our guest today is the Honorable Paul Hellyer, former minister of Defense of Canada, and he believes that life forms from space are present on Earth. It’s great to have you on our show. Why do you say that UFOs are as real as airplanes flying over our heads?
Paul Hellyer: Because I know that they are. As a matter of fact, they’ve been visiting our planet for thousands of years and one of the cases that would interest you most if you give me two or three minutes to answer is that during the Cold War, 1961, there were about 50 UFOs in formation flying south from Russia across Europe, and Supreme Allied Command was very concerned and about ready to press the 'Panic' button when they turned around and went back over the North Pole. They decided to do an investigation and they investigated for 3 years and they decided that, with absolute certainty, four species - at least – had been visiting this planet for thousands of years. We have a long history of UFOs and of course there has been a lot more activity in the last few decades, since we invented the atomic bomb and they are very concerned about that and the fact that we might use it again, and because the Cosmos is a unity and it affects not just us but other people in the Cosmos, they are very much afraid that we might be stupid enough to start using atomic weapons again, and this would be very bad for us and for them as well.
SS: No serious scientist has ever publicly confirmed evidence of an encounter with extra-terrestrials – why would scientists not confirm the facts if they exist?
PH: I'm afraid they must go out of their way not to find out. Even if they do 10 percent of the amount of research I’ve done in the last 8 years they would be as convinced as I am. I mean, they could do it even faster. Might take it a little longer, when they didn’t have military background, but there are so many wonderful books that tell these stories and they’ve been authenticated; the sightings have been authenticated by more than one witness and also by radar, and they have landed in various places around the world, including Russia. There’s famous case there, I can’t remember the name of the place, but it was widely reported at the time, a man wrote a book about it and then the French bought the book rights so it wouldn’t be circulated around… There’s just so much evidence, if anybody will take a time off to do a little bit of research and study. Some people are interested and will take the time, and the others just say “Oh, you know it’s just fantasy”. Since I’ve been public on this subject I get probably three or four emails a week from all over the world, from people who’ve actually witnessed sightings, and some of them who’ve actually been on the ships, and some of them who’ve actually been transported to another planet. This information… it is top secret in a way that governments don’t talk about it, but if you listen to whistleblowers and to the people who have worked in the industry, and who know what is going on, there’s just a lot of information out there and it doesn’t take very long to get your hands on it.
http://www.examiner.com/article/prism-mining-ufo-data-targets-false-flag-et-invasion-as-pretext-to-space-wars
19 January 2014 12:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
EHRAN (FNA)- Former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden revealed documents providing incontrovertible proof that an alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda is driving US domestic and international policy, and has been doing so since at least 1945, some media reports said.
A stunning Federal Security Services (FSB) report on the nearly two million highly classified top-secret documents obtained from the United States Department of Defense (DOD) run National Security Agency-Central Security Service (NSA/CSS) by the American ex-patriot Edward Snowden states that this information is providing “incontrovertible proof” that an “alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda” is driving US domestic and international policy, and has been doing so since at least 1945, Whatdoesitmean.com reported.
Edward Snowden is a computer specialist, a former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) employee, and former NSA/CSS contractor who disclosed these classified documents to several media outlets in late 2012 and was granted temporary asylum in Russia in 2013 after his designation by the Obama regime as the “most wanted man on earth.”
This FSB report further states that Snowden, in December, 2012, contacted the highly respected American columnist, blogger, and author Glenn Greenwald by an email headed with the subject line stating, “I and others have things you would be interested in.?.?.?.”
In Snowden’s own words, this report continues, he outlined to Greenwald the reason for his highly secretive group obtaining and releasing these documents by warning that that there “were actually two governments in the US, the one that was elected, and the other, secret regime, governing in the dark.”
As to who is running this “secret regime” Snowden and his cohorts were warning about, FSB experts in this report say, was confirmed this past weekend by former Canadian defense minister Paul Hellyer who was given access to all of Snowden’s documents by Russian intelligence services and stated they were, indeed, “accurate.”
Even though Defense Minister Hellyer’s exact statements to the FSB in regards to Snowden’s documents remain classified, shortly after his “extensive electronic interview” by the FSB he was allowed to appear on Russia Today’s program SophieCo this past fortnight where he shockingly admitted that aliens have “been visiting our planet for thousands of years” and described several types of these extraterrestrials, including “Tall Whites” who are working with the US Air Force in Nevada.
Of the many explosive revelations in this FSB report, the one most concerning to Russian authorities are the Snowden’s documents “confirming” that the “Tall Whites” (further revealed by Defense Minister Hellyer as noted above) are the same extraterrestrial alien race behind the stunning rise of Nazi Germany during the 1930’s.
In just one example of the many outlined in this FSB report, it shows that with this “alien assistance,” at the end of the 1930’s, when Nazi Germany possessed just 57 submarines, over the four years of World War II it built 1,163 modern technologically advanced submarines at its dockyards and even put them into operation.
Snowden’s documents further confirm, this report says, the “Tall Whites” (Nordic) meetings in 1954 with US President Dwight D. Eisenhower where the “secret regime” currently ruling over America was established.
Most disturbingly, this FSB report warns, is that the “Tall White” agenda being implemented by the “secret regime” ruling the United States calls for the creation of a global electronic surveillance system meant to hide all true information about their presence here on earth as they enter into what one of Snowden’s documents calls the “final phase” of their end plan for total assimilation and world rule.
Unbeknownst to the FSB, this report confirms, are those still in the US government backing Snowden, but whose presence Russian intelligence experts note is “unmistakable” and shows a cataclysmic power struggle is currently underway against this “secret regime” now headed by Obama by “forces unknown.”
Most to be feared by Russian policy makers and authorities, this report concludes, is if those opposing the “Tall White” “secret regime” ruled over by Obama have themselves aligned with another alien-extraterrestrial power themselves.
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13921021000393
A stunning Federal Security Services (FSB) report on the nearly two million highly classified top-secret documents obtained from the United States Department of Defense (DOD) run National Security Agency-Central Security Service (NSA/CSS) by the American ex-patriot Edward Snowden states that this information is providing “incontrovertible proof” that an “alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda” is driving US domestic and international policy, and has been doing so since at least 1945, Whatdoesitmean.com reported.
Edward Snowden is a computer specialist, a former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) employee, and former NSA/CSS contractor who disclosed these classified documents to several media outlets in late 2012 and was granted temporary asylum in Russia in 2013 after his designation by the Obama regime as the “most wanted man on earth.”
This FSB report further states that Snowden, in December, 2012, contacted the highly respected American columnist, blogger, and author Glenn Greenwald by an email headed with the subject line stating, “I and others have things you would be interested in.?.?.?.”
In Snowden’s own words, this report continues, he outlined to Greenwald the reason for his highly secretive group obtaining and releasing these documents by warning that that there “were actually two governments in the US, the one that was elected, and the other, secret regime, governing in the dark.”
As to who is running this “secret regime” Snowden and his cohorts were warning about, FSB experts in this report say, was confirmed this past weekend by former Canadian defense minister Paul Hellyer who was given access to all of Snowden’s documents by Russian intelligence services and stated they were, indeed, “accurate.”
Even though Defense Minister Hellyer’s exact statements to the FSB in regards to Snowden’s documents remain classified, shortly after his “extensive electronic interview” by the FSB he was allowed to appear on Russia Today’s program SophieCo this past fortnight where he shockingly admitted that aliens have “been visiting our planet for thousands of years” and described several types of these extraterrestrials, including “Tall Whites” who are working with the US Air Force in Nevada.
Of the many explosive revelations in this FSB report, the one most concerning to Russian authorities are the Snowden’s documents “confirming” that the “Tall Whites” (further revealed by Defense Minister Hellyer as noted above) are the same extraterrestrial alien race behind the stunning rise of Nazi Germany during the 1930’s.
In just one example of the many outlined in this FSB report, it shows that with this “alien assistance,” at the end of the 1930’s, when Nazi Germany possessed just 57 submarines, over the four years of World War II it built 1,163 modern technologically advanced submarines at its dockyards and even put them into operation.
Snowden’s documents further confirm, this report says, the “Tall Whites” (Nordic) meetings in 1954 with US President Dwight D. Eisenhower where the “secret regime” currently ruling over America was established.
Most disturbingly, this FSB report warns, is that the “Tall White” agenda being implemented by the “secret regime” ruling the United States calls for the creation of a global electronic surveillance system meant to hide all true information about their presence here on earth as they enter into what one of Snowden’s documents calls the “final phase” of their end plan for total assimilation and world rule.
Unbeknownst to the FSB, this report confirms, are those still in the US government backing Snowden, but whose presence Russian intelligence experts note is “unmistakable” and shows a cataclysmic power struggle is currently underway against this “secret regime” now headed by Obama by “forces unknown.”
Most to be feared by Russian policy makers and authorities, this report concludes, is if those opposing the “Tall White” “secret regime” ruled over by Obama have themselves aligned with another alien-extraterrestrial power themselves.
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13921021000393
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13921021000393
19 January 2014 12:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Once more, same story
Iranian news agency says Snowden docs reveal US-space alien link
Rick Moran
Fars News Agency is referred to as the "semi-official" Iranian government news service. Not quite sure how a mouthpiece for the mullahs gets to be "semi-official." Why not "semi-independent"?
Regardless, this is a corker of a story from Fars. They claim the Russian FSB (successor to the KGB) has found some remarkable information in the Snowden documents. It appears that the US government is being controlled by space aliens who have been here quite a while. In fact, one group of aliens - "the tall whites" - actually helped Hitler seize power.
It's all very logical - if you're a nutcase:
In Snowden's own words, this report continues, he outlined to Greenwald the reason for his highly secretive group obtaining and releasing these documents by warning that that there "were actually two governments in the US, the one that was elected, and the other, secret regime, governing in the dark."
As to who is running this "secret regime" Snowden and his cohorts were warning about, FSB experts in this report say, was confirmed this past weekend by former Canadian defense minister Paul Hellyer who was given access to all of Snowden's documents by Russian intelligence services and stated they were, indeed, "accurate."
Even though Defense Minister Hellyer's exact statements to the FSB in regards to Snowden's documents remain classified, shortly after his "extensive electronic interview" by the FSB he was allowed to appear on Russia Today's program SophieCo this past fortnight where he shockingly admitted that aliens have "been visiting our planet for thousands of years" and described several types of these extraterrestrials, including "Tall Whites" who are working with the US Air Force in Nevada.
Of the many explosive revelations in this FSB report, the one most concerning to Russian authorities are the Snowden's documents "confirming" that the "Tall Whites" (further revealed by Defense Minister Hellyer as noted above) are the same extraterrestrial alien race behind the stunning rise of Nazi Germany during the 1930's.
In just one example of the many outlined in this FSB report, it shows that with this "alien assistance," at the end of the 1930's, when Nazi Germany possessed just 57 submarines, over the four years of World War II it built 1,163 modern technologically advanced submarines at its dockyards and even put them into operation.
Snowden's documents further confirm, this report says, the "Tall Whites" (Nordic) meetings in 1954 with US President Dwight D. Eisenhower where the "secret regime" currently ruling over America was established.
Most disturbingly, this FSB report warns, is that the "Tall White" agenda being implemented by the "secret regime" ruling the United States calls for the creation of a global electronic surveillance system meant to hide all true information about their presence here on earth as they enter into what one of Snowden's documents calls the "final phase" of their end plan for total assimilation and world rule.
As an aside, Hellyer has been pushing this alien conspiracy theory since 2005. At that time, he accused George Bush of plotting an "intergalactic war" using a military base constructed on the moon.
M'kay.
More seriously, this is coming from a government - "semi-official" or not - that will soon have possession (if they don't already) of nuclear weapons. It's bad enough the Iranian government is so enamored of the "12th Imam" legend and would possess the means to ostensibly hasten his return to earth. Now we have to worry about them believing cuckoo stuff like this?
Why can't they be normal Middle Eastern lunatics and believe in the Jewish conspiracy to control the world?
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/01/iranian_news_agency_says_snowden_docs_reveal_us-space_alien_link.html#ixzz2qq0LSeuf
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http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/01/iranian_news_agency_says_snowden_docs_reveal_us-space_alien_link.html
“They don’t want to tell us how to run our affairs, they have accepted the fact that this is our planet, and that we have the right to run it, but they are very-very concerned: they don’t think we are good stewards of our planet, we’re clear-cutting our forests, we’re polluting our rivers and our lakes, and we’re dumping sewage in the oceans, and we’re doing all sorts of things that are not what good stewards of their homes should be doing. They don’t like that and they made it very clear. As a matter of fact, they have given us a warning.”
http://www.ibtimes.com/do-aliens-exist-yes-some-look-just-us-says-paul-hellyer-former-canadian-defense-minister-video
Iranian news agency says Snowden docs reveal US-space alien link
Rick Moran
Fars News Agency is referred to as the "semi-official" Iranian government news service. Not quite sure how a mouthpiece for the mullahs gets to be "semi-official." Why not "semi-independent"?
Regardless, this is a corker of a story from Fars. They claim the Russian FSB (successor to the KGB) has found some remarkable information in the Snowden documents. It appears that the US government is being controlled by space aliens who have been here quite a while. In fact, one group of aliens - "the tall whites" - actually helped Hitler seize power.
It's all very logical - if you're a nutcase:
In Snowden's own words, this report continues, he outlined to Greenwald the reason for his highly secretive group obtaining and releasing these documents by warning that that there "were actually two governments in the US, the one that was elected, and the other, secret regime, governing in the dark."
As to who is running this "secret regime" Snowden and his cohorts were warning about, FSB experts in this report say, was confirmed this past weekend by former Canadian defense minister Paul Hellyer who was given access to all of Snowden's documents by Russian intelligence services and stated they were, indeed, "accurate."
Even though Defense Minister Hellyer's exact statements to the FSB in regards to Snowden's documents remain classified, shortly after his "extensive electronic interview" by the FSB he was allowed to appear on Russia Today's program SophieCo this past fortnight where he shockingly admitted that aliens have "been visiting our planet for thousands of years" and described several types of these extraterrestrials, including "Tall Whites" who are working with the US Air Force in Nevada.
Of the many explosive revelations in this FSB report, the one most concerning to Russian authorities are the Snowden's documents "confirming" that the "Tall Whites" (further revealed by Defense Minister Hellyer as noted above) are the same extraterrestrial alien race behind the stunning rise of Nazi Germany during the 1930's.
In just one example of the many outlined in this FSB report, it shows that with this "alien assistance," at the end of the 1930's, when Nazi Germany possessed just 57 submarines, over the four years of World War II it built 1,163 modern technologically advanced submarines at its dockyards and even put them into operation.
Snowden's documents further confirm, this report says, the "Tall Whites" (Nordic) meetings in 1954 with US President Dwight D. Eisenhower where the "secret regime" currently ruling over America was established.
Most disturbingly, this FSB report warns, is that the "Tall White" agenda being implemented by the "secret regime" ruling the United States calls for the creation of a global electronic surveillance system meant to hide all true information about their presence here on earth as they enter into what one of Snowden's documents calls the "final phase" of their end plan for total assimilation and world rule.
As an aside, Hellyer has been pushing this alien conspiracy theory since 2005. At that time, he accused George Bush of plotting an "intergalactic war" using a military base constructed on the moon.
M'kay.
More seriously, this is coming from a government - "semi-official" or not - that will soon have possession (if they don't already) of nuclear weapons. It's bad enough the Iranian government is so enamored of the "12th Imam" legend and would possess the means to ostensibly hasten his return to earth. Now we have to worry about them believing cuckoo stuff like this?
Why can't they be normal Middle Eastern lunatics and believe in the Jewish conspiracy to control the world?
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/01/iranian_news_agency_says_snowden_docs_reveal_us-space_alien_link.html#ixzz2qq0LSeuf
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http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/01/iranian_news_agency_says_snowden_docs_reveal_us-space_alien_link.html
“They don’t want to tell us how to run our affairs, they have accepted the fact that this is our planet, and that we have the right to run it, but they are very-very concerned: they don’t think we are good stewards of our planet, we’re clear-cutting our forests, we’re polluting our rivers and our lakes, and we’re dumping sewage in the oceans, and we’re doing all sorts of things that are not what good stewards of their homes should be doing. They don’t like that and they made it very clear. As a matter of fact, they have given us a warning.”
http://www.ibtimes.com/do-aliens-exist-yes-some-look-just-us-says-paul-hellyer-former-canadian-defense-minister-video
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/01/iranian_news_agency_says_snowden_docs_reveal_us-space_alien_link.html#ixzz2qq0LSeuf
19 January 2014 12:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
&*(look the link in post
During his one-hour speech in 2011, Paul Hellyer speaks the words that most people want to hear, and that’s how you fool the masses. All previous and current dictators have used the same technique to get in the driver’s seat to be able to rule their peoples.
Hellyer fools the minds of his audience by confirming that the financial system is bad, that bankers are orchestrating the crises and that something has to change fundamentally. Now, who can say no to this. After all, there’s a lot of truth in those claims. But to understand what was actually going on during that speech it requires that you can see the much bigger picture.
There is a reason why the old system has to go, according to the people and Hellyer, but they each have a very different idea about the outcome and both follow a very different agenda. The people have a future in mind where they can set the standards themselves and control their own lives, completely independent from the banksters their debt schemes. Hellyer on the other hand advocates a future where a corporate world government will require that the “old rulers” and old systems have to make way for a full-spectrum takeover and dominance. You can witness this clearly at the end of his speech. In the final 7 minutes he answers, or rather dances around, some very interesting questions. Those seven minutes are the most important part of his whole speech. It is there that the mask comes off. The new world order/world government/agenda 21 agent is ultimately exposed in the eyes of those who have learned to see the signs.
During his speech, Hellyer is nothing more than a mouthpiece of the United Nations, preaching their fraudulent new age Agenda 21, a proven fact since he blames humanity for global warming. This false accusation has already been trashed numerous times [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10].
When Hellyer is asked what he thinks about the fact that humans are responsible for less than 1% of temperature changes on Earth and that the sun is the dominant heat source, he refers his audience to some book that they should read instead of providing them with data and facts. According to Hellyer, the sun is causing “some” heat but not significant enough to result in global warming. Now of course any child will tell you that this is a pure junk answer and is not what one may expect from a Former Defense Minister who is allegedly on the people’s side against the banksters. This proves that Hellyer is a fraud and a global government agent. He even provides us with the deadline and the time frame for the establishment of the new “Kingdom” as he calls it. Given that his speech took place in 2011 and that he has set a time frame of 10 years, the global corporate government would be established somewhere in 2021. That’s 7 years from now. Considering all the efforts that are being undertaken right now, he might be right about that.
Surely, we can approach this whole Paul Hellyer and alien charade from even another point of view.
Why would some politician be allowed to preach, as if he’s revealing some major information, for multiple years about aliens, UFOs, “big secrets,” the failed financial system and so on, but the truth about what really happened on September 11, 2001, may not be known by the public. Neither may the truth be known about the 3/11 nuclear sabotage and the attacks on the nuclear power plants in Fukushima, Japan. Why must this be kept a secret, why does Hellyer not reveal anything about those events that are far more important? Would it interfere with the corporate world government agenda?
Would revealing that the world is being kept as a hostage in a case of nuclear blackmail be too damning for the United Nations and their world government? Of course it would, that’s exactly why they pull the wool over the people’s eyes with claims about aliens and UFOs, while the real dirty secrets are being defended till death by the secretive cabal.
But lets dissect a little more of what Hellyer says, lets put his pants down and put this psyop to rest once and for all.
According to Hellyer “[the aliens] have rules (and) one of the rules is that they don’t interfere with our affairs unless they are invited to.” If this is the case then why do people report about their alien abductions? Is that not a way of interfering with our lives on Earth? Or are all those who report about such events crazy?
“They are very much afraid that we might be stupid enough to start using atomic weapons again,” says Hellyer. Well, excuse me but atomic or nuclear weapons are being used frequently. The US used depleted uranium armor-piercing ammunition in Iraq which still causes birth defects and cancer there. In May of 2013, Israel used nuclear class weapons when they declared war on Syria. Both for the Indonesian and Japanese tsunami nuclear weaponry was deployed and in the case of Fukushima also the nuclear power plants were attacked by nuclear devices, along with the US-Israeli Stuxnet virus that by the way is still embedded in Fukushima’s operating systems.
“A lot of the things we use today we got from them, you know – LED lights and microchips and Kevlar vests,” continues Hellyer. Obviously the man doesn’t seem to care that he’s making a complete fool of himself. The LED technology dates back to multiple decades before even the Roswell incident got the modern UFO-movement started and people not only in the US were working on the development of the LED [1, 2, 3]. The invention of the microchip can independently be attributed to people from Germany, England and the US. As for Kevlar or poly-paraphenylene terephthalamide, meet Stephanie Kwolek [1, 2]. Until all this information has been proven wrong by any substantial evidence provided by Hellyer himself, I tend to put more faith in the info that I can find myself.
So to recap the Paul Hellyer experience, just in case I lost you under way, here’s what he tried to do, and he may have succeeded to a certain extend.
As an agent for the UN’s corporate world government, that will only serve the same cabal of today and their offspring – minus those who they feel can be sacrificed along the way, Hellyer was sent out to first of all hijack the whole truth, alternative news and environmental movement since those are the people who likely will offer the most resistance to a corporate world government. Once these have jumped on the bandwagon for the most part, the ones who are still resisting will be marked for re-education or extermination [1, 2].
The rest of the people, the mainstream masses, are likely to go along with anything that is being prepared. We can notice this already since most people have no idea what is really happening in the world. All they care about is consumption and being trendy.
The corporate world government will then, somewhere in 2021 according to Hellyer, launch their new world religion which is already showing signs of existence. This ‘green religion’ will justify any policies that the world government introduces, all in the name of the environment and enforced by the Green Helmets. The corporate world government will try very hard to make sure that all religions are absorbed by the new green religion.
Eventually, when they succeed in their whole scheme, the world will for the first time be under full control of a small group of maniacs who will rule over everything and almost everyone. The off-grid resistance will remain and possibly go underground since they will not be allowed in the mega-cities that are being envisaged and engineered. Outside of these cities they’re also not allowed since these are areas where only the corporate government leaders and their minions will reside, according to the UN’s Agenda 21 definition of Biological Diversity.
https://archive.org/details/megacitiesOnTheMove-Planned-opolis-CreepyAgenda21UtopiaPromotion
During his one-hour speech in 2011, Paul Hellyer speaks the words that most people want to hear, and that’s how you fool the masses. All previous and current dictators have used the same technique to get in the driver’s seat to be able to rule their peoples.
Hellyer fools the minds of his audience by confirming that the financial system is bad, that bankers are orchestrating the crises and that something has to change fundamentally. Now, who can say no to this. After all, there’s a lot of truth in those claims. But to understand what was actually going on during that speech it requires that you can see the much bigger picture.
There is a reason why the old system has to go, according to the people and Hellyer, but they each have a very different idea about the outcome and both follow a very different agenda. The people have a future in mind where they can set the standards themselves and control their own lives, completely independent from the banksters their debt schemes. Hellyer on the other hand advocates a future where a corporate world government will require that the “old rulers” and old systems have to make way for a full-spectrum takeover and dominance. You can witness this clearly at the end of his speech. In the final 7 minutes he answers, or rather dances around, some very interesting questions. Those seven minutes are the most important part of his whole speech. It is there that the mask comes off. The new world order/world government/agenda 21 agent is ultimately exposed in the eyes of those who have learned to see the signs.
During his speech, Hellyer is nothing more than a mouthpiece of the United Nations, preaching their fraudulent new age Agenda 21, a proven fact since he blames humanity for global warming. This false accusation has already been trashed numerous times [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10].
When Hellyer is asked what he thinks about the fact that humans are responsible for less than 1% of temperature changes on Earth and that the sun is the dominant heat source, he refers his audience to some book that they should read instead of providing them with data and facts. According to Hellyer, the sun is causing “some” heat but not significant enough to result in global warming. Now of course any child will tell you that this is a pure junk answer and is not what one may expect from a Former Defense Minister who is allegedly on the people’s side against the banksters. This proves that Hellyer is a fraud and a global government agent. He even provides us with the deadline and the time frame for the establishment of the new “Kingdom” as he calls it. Given that his speech took place in 2011 and that he has set a time frame of 10 years, the global corporate government would be established somewhere in 2021. That’s 7 years from now. Considering all the efforts that are being undertaken right now, he might be right about that.
Surely, we can approach this whole Paul Hellyer and alien charade from even another point of view.
Why would some politician be allowed to preach, as if he’s revealing some major information, for multiple years about aliens, UFOs, “big secrets,” the failed financial system and so on, but the truth about what really happened on September 11, 2001, may not be known by the public. Neither may the truth be known about the 3/11 nuclear sabotage and the attacks on the nuclear power plants in Fukushima, Japan. Why must this be kept a secret, why does Hellyer not reveal anything about those events that are far more important? Would it interfere with the corporate world government agenda?
Would revealing that the world is being kept as a hostage in a case of nuclear blackmail be too damning for the United Nations and their world government? Of course it would, that’s exactly why they pull the wool over the people’s eyes with claims about aliens and UFOs, while the real dirty secrets are being defended till death by the secretive cabal.
But lets dissect a little more of what Hellyer says, lets put his pants down and put this psyop to rest once and for all.
According to Hellyer “[the aliens] have rules (and) one of the rules is that they don’t interfere with our affairs unless they are invited to.” If this is the case then why do people report about their alien abductions? Is that not a way of interfering with our lives on Earth? Or are all those who report about such events crazy?
“They are very much afraid that we might be stupid enough to start using atomic weapons again,” says Hellyer. Well, excuse me but atomic or nuclear weapons are being used frequently. The US used depleted uranium armor-piercing ammunition in Iraq which still causes birth defects and cancer there. In May of 2013, Israel used nuclear class weapons when they declared war on Syria. Both for the Indonesian and Japanese tsunami nuclear weaponry was deployed and in the case of Fukushima also the nuclear power plants were attacked by nuclear devices, along with the US-Israeli Stuxnet virus that by the way is still embedded in Fukushima’s operating systems.
“A lot of the things we use today we got from them, you know – LED lights and microchips and Kevlar vests,” continues Hellyer. Obviously the man doesn’t seem to care that he’s making a complete fool of himself. The LED technology dates back to multiple decades before even the Roswell incident got the modern UFO-movement started and people not only in the US were working on the development of the LED [1, 2, 3]. The invention of the microchip can independently be attributed to people from Germany, England and the US. As for Kevlar or poly-paraphenylene terephthalamide, meet Stephanie Kwolek [1, 2]. Until all this information has been proven wrong by any substantial evidence provided by Hellyer himself, I tend to put more faith in the info that I can find myself.
So to recap the Paul Hellyer experience, just in case I lost you under way, here’s what he tried to do, and he may have succeeded to a certain extend.
As an agent for the UN’s corporate world government, that will only serve the same cabal of today and their offspring – minus those who they feel can be sacrificed along the way, Hellyer was sent out to first of all hijack the whole truth, alternative news and environmental movement since those are the people who likely will offer the most resistance to a corporate world government. Once these have jumped on the bandwagon for the most part, the ones who are still resisting will be marked for re-education or extermination [1, 2].
The rest of the people, the mainstream masses, are likely to go along with anything that is being prepared. We can notice this already since most people have no idea what is really happening in the world. All they care about is consumption and being trendy.
The corporate world government will then, somewhere in 2021 according to Hellyer, launch their new world religion which is already showing signs of existence. This ‘green religion’ will justify any policies that the world government introduces, all in the name of the environment and enforced by the Green Helmets. The corporate world government will try very hard to make sure that all religions are absorbed by the new green religion.
Eventually, when they succeed in their whole scheme, the world will for the first time be under full control of a small group of maniacs who will rule over everything and almost everyone. The off-grid resistance will remain and possibly go underground since they will not be allowed in the mega-cities that are being envisaged and engineered. Outside of these cities they’re also not allowed since these are areas where only the corporate government leaders and their minions will reside, according to the UN’s Agenda 21 definition of Biological Diversity.
https://archive.org/details/megacitiesOnTheMove-Planned-opolis-CreepyAgenda21UtopiaPromotion
https://archive.org/details/megacitiesOnTheMove-Planned-opolis-CreepyAgenda21UtopiaPromotion
19 January 2014 11:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://jacobsfs.wordpress.com/2014/01/07/i-smell-what-they-are-cooking-and-so-can-you/ Look the link in post!
January 7, 2014
If you’ve ever wondered how, why and when a world government would be implemented then this article is certainly what you should read.
I was wondering what the topic should be of the first post of the new Jacobs Full-Spectrum website, but it only required me to log in to my Facebook account and read the news feeds to immediately find the perfect topic:
“Canada’s Former Defense Minister Says Space Aliens Live Among Us, But Hate Our Nukes” – Rawstory.com, January 6, 2014
“If We Down at Least One UFO We’ll Be Facing an Interstellar War – Former Defense Minister of Canada” – RT, December 30, 2013
Many people have already heard about Paul Hellyer, the Former Defense Minister of Canada. He’s the politician who claims that aliens, off-Earth beings, are among us and that we need to establish a new kind of society. For those who put any faith in him and his gospel, I’m sorry to be busting your bubble today. Well, in fact to be honest I’m not sorry at all because it’s imperative that someone shows you the epic deception that is going on here with this guy.
Paul Hellyer talks about how governments keep alien technology secret, technology that could bring new kinds of energy about that would end the era of fossil fuels. First of all, the technology that he’s referring to is not alien, it is indeed being kept secret for the public but that’s because it empowers those who have access to this “new technology.” That’s how the game of ruling the world is being played, you keep the best for yourself and until the time is right and everything is set in place to reap the enormous profits you don’t just roll out your secret technology. This principle should be easy to understand by anyone.
So who is it that is keeping this “new or alien technology” secret? Well, the exact same group of people who are planning the establishment of a corporate world government.
But the true nature of Hellyer’s crusade is much broader than aliens and UFOs. This part of the show is only to get the whole UFO-movement on board of the corporate world government bandwagon. By doing so he paves the road for a complete different mission that is being planned. When he says that he saw a UFO, he’s not making wild and off-world claims. Many people have seen an unidentified flying object (UFO) before, so have I. Does this mean that those unidentified flying objects are alien in origin? Of course not. Military technology is much further advanced than what you see on the TV news. Airplanes, helicopters, bombs, missiles,… are all very old technologies and the really cool stuff is mostly hidden far away from the public eyes.
Still, the effects of this kind of alternative and hidden weaponry can be observed already, especially when unnatural super typhoons [1, 2, 3] and unnatural tsunamis [1, 2] occur and even this kind of weaponry is not so very new anymore. In fact on April 28 of 1997 US Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen already admitted this, during a US Department of Defense news briefing, when he stated:
“There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.”
The other mission that is being planned for which Hellyer has to pave the road with his alien/UFO approach will be something that resembles Project Blue Beam [1, 2, 3]. He actually says that all religions and even the nonreligious people should be working towards a new “Kingdom of God on Earth.” Now, to make it clear, you will not convince anyone who isn’t religious to suddenly change their minds and start believing in your new “Kingdom on Earth,” it’s not going to happen. But of course if you can give it an alien spin, all of a sudden a large part of the nonreligious people might however also buy the story, and that’s what the alien/UFO approach is all about: “HOW TO FOOL THE WHOLE WORLD.”
Yet, I’m aware that this is not enough for many readers to make my case stick.
But there’s more…
http://truthnewsinternational.wordpress.com/2014/01/09/warning-to-the-real-rebellion-watch-out-for-paul-hellyer/
January 7, 2014
If you’ve ever wondered how, why and when a world government would be implemented then this article is certainly what you should read.
I was wondering what the topic should be of the first post of the new Jacobs Full-Spectrum website, but it only required me to log in to my Facebook account and read the news feeds to immediately find the perfect topic:
“Canada’s Former Defense Minister Says Space Aliens Live Among Us, But Hate Our Nukes” – Rawstory.com, January 6, 2014
“If We Down at Least One UFO We’ll Be Facing an Interstellar War – Former Defense Minister of Canada” – RT, December 30, 2013
Many people have already heard about Paul Hellyer, the Former Defense Minister of Canada. He’s the politician who claims that aliens, off-Earth beings, are among us and that we need to establish a new kind of society. For those who put any faith in him and his gospel, I’m sorry to be busting your bubble today. Well, in fact to be honest I’m not sorry at all because it’s imperative that someone shows you the epic deception that is going on here with this guy.
Paul Hellyer talks about how governments keep alien technology secret, technology that could bring new kinds of energy about that would end the era of fossil fuels. First of all, the technology that he’s referring to is not alien, it is indeed being kept secret for the public but that’s because it empowers those who have access to this “new technology.” That’s how the game of ruling the world is being played, you keep the best for yourself and until the time is right and everything is set in place to reap the enormous profits you don’t just roll out your secret technology. This principle should be easy to understand by anyone.
So who is it that is keeping this “new or alien technology” secret? Well, the exact same group of people who are planning the establishment of a corporate world government.
But the true nature of Hellyer’s crusade is much broader than aliens and UFOs. This part of the show is only to get the whole UFO-movement on board of the corporate world government bandwagon. By doing so he paves the road for a complete different mission that is being planned. When he says that he saw a UFO, he’s not making wild and off-world claims. Many people have seen an unidentified flying object (UFO) before, so have I. Does this mean that those unidentified flying objects are alien in origin? Of course not. Military technology is much further advanced than what you see on the TV news. Airplanes, helicopters, bombs, missiles,… are all very old technologies and the really cool stuff is mostly hidden far away from the public eyes.
Still, the effects of this kind of alternative and hidden weaponry can be observed already, especially when unnatural super typhoons [1, 2, 3] and unnatural tsunamis [1, 2] occur and even this kind of weaponry is not so very new anymore. In fact on April 28 of 1997 US Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen already admitted this, during a US Department of Defense news briefing, when he stated:
“There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.”
The other mission that is being planned for which Hellyer has to pave the road with his alien/UFO approach will be something that resembles Project Blue Beam [1, 2, 3]. He actually says that all religions and even the nonreligious people should be working towards a new “Kingdom of God on Earth.” Now, to make it clear, you will not convince anyone who isn’t religious to suddenly change their minds and start believing in your new “Kingdom on Earth,” it’s not going to happen. But of course if you can give it an alien spin, all of a sudden a large part of the nonreligious people might however also buy the story, and that’s what the alien/UFO approach is all about: “HOW TO FOOL THE WHOLE WORLD.”
Yet, I’m aware that this is not enough for many readers to make my case stick.
But there’s more…
http://truthnewsinternational.wordpress.com/2014/01/09/warning-to-the-real-rebellion-watch-out-for-paul-hellyer/
http://jacobsfs.wordpress.com/2014/01/07/i-smell-what-they-are-cooking-and-so-can-you/
19 January 2014 11:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2224055/
Paul Hellyer is an actor, known for Dan Aykroyd Unplugged on UFOs (2005),...
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Dan Aykroyd Unplugged on UFOs (Documentary)
Himself - Exopolitics Symposium, University of Toronto
A UFO enthusiast interviews Dan Aykroyd on the subject of extraterrestrials visiting Earth.
Paul Hellyer is an actor, known for Dan Aykroyd Unplugged on UFOs (2005),...
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Dan Aykroyd Unplugged on UFOs (Documentary)
Himself - Exopolitics Symposium, University of Toronto
A UFO enthusiast interviews Dan Aykroyd on the subject of extraterrestrials visiting Earth.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2224055/
19 January 2014 11:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Alien species have been visiting earth for thousands of years, says Canada’s former defense minister, and they’re worried that humans are going to wreck the planet.
“Something dreadful is going to happen to it if we don’t smarten up and change our ways,” said Paul Hellyer, who served as defense minister in the 1960s.
He’s the first top official from a G8 nation to claim that extraterrestrial life has been confirmed, and he discussed his beliefs Tuesday on Russia Today.
Hellyer said up to 80 different species regularly visit earth, from the “short grays” seen in cartoons and illustrations to species called “Nordic blondes” and “tall whites” who could almost pass as humans.
He claimed the “tall whites” are working with the U.S. Air Force in Nevada, and that two women from that species had dressed as nuns and went to Las Vegas to shop.
They come from all over the galaxy — including from Venus, Mars and Saturn’s moon, Andromedia – and other star systems, Hellyer said.
He said all but perhaps one or two of the species were benevolent and wanted to help humans, but they’re bound by a code of conduct from doing so.
“They have rules (and) one of the rules is that they don’t interfere with our affairs unless there are invited to – and that’s one of the reasons, probably, that we haven’t seen more of them until very recently,” Hellyer said.
He said military investigators had found strong evidence that at least four species had been visiting earth for much of human history, and he said their visits had become more frequent since our discovery of atomic technology.
“We have a long history of UFOs and of course there has been a lot more activity in the last few decades, since we invented the atomic bomb, and they are very concerned about that and the fact that we might use it again, and because the cosmos is a unity and it affects not just us but other people in the cosmos,” Hellyer said. “They are very much afraid that we might be stupid enough to start using atomic weapons again, and this would be very bad for us and for them, as well.”
He said the aliens had accepted that humans had a right to run their own planet, although they were concerns about our stewardship of it.
“We spend too much time fighting each other, we spend too much money on military expenditures and not enough money on feeding the poor and looking after the homeless and sick, and that we’re polluting our waters and air and that we’re playing around with these exotic weapons, thermonuclear weapons and atomic weapons, which have such a devastating effect on our earth and our cosmos, and they don’t like that,” Hellyer said.
He said that aliens wish they could share more technology with humans, but they’re afraid we’d use these advances for warfare.
“As far as technology is concerned, they are light years ahead of us, and we have learned a lot of things from them,” Hellyer said. “A lot of the things we use today we got from them, you know – LED lights and microchips and Kevlar vests and all sorts things that we got from their technology, and we could get a lot more, too, especially in the fields of medicine and agriculture if we would go about it peacefully.
“But, I think, maybe some of our people are more interested in getting the military technology, and I think that’s wrong-headed, and that’s one of the things that we are going to have to change, because we’re going to have to work together, all of us, everywhere on the planet,” he said.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/06/canadas-former-defense-chief-says-space-aliens-live-among-us-but-hate-our-nukes/
“Something dreadful is going to happen to it if we don’t smarten up and change our ways,” said Paul Hellyer, who served as defense minister in the 1960s.
He’s the first top official from a G8 nation to claim that extraterrestrial life has been confirmed, and he discussed his beliefs Tuesday on Russia Today.
Hellyer said up to 80 different species regularly visit earth, from the “short grays” seen in cartoons and illustrations to species called “Nordic blondes” and “tall whites” who could almost pass as humans.
He claimed the “tall whites” are working with the U.S. Air Force in Nevada, and that two women from that species had dressed as nuns and went to Las Vegas to shop.
They come from all over the galaxy — including from Venus, Mars and Saturn’s moon, Andromedia – and other star systems, Hellyer said.
He said all but perhaps one or two of the species were benevolent and wanted to help humans, but they’re bound by a code of conduct from doing so.
“They have rules (and) one of the rules is that they don’t interfere with our affairs unless there are invited to – and that’s one of the reasons, probably, that we haven’t seen more of them until very recently,” Hellyer said.
He said military investigators had found strong evidence that at least four species had been visiting earth for much of human history, and he said their visits had become more frequent since our discovery of atomic technology.
“We have a long history of UFOs and of course there has been a lot more activity in the last few decades, since we invented the atomic bomb, and they are very concerned about that and the fact that we might use it again, and because the cosmos is a unity and it affects not just us but other people in the cosmos,” Hellyer said. “They are very much afraid that we might be stupid enough to start using atomic weapons again, and this would be very bad for us and for them, as well.”
He said the aliens had accepted that humans had a right to run their own planet, although they were concerns about our stewardship of it.
“We spend too much time fighting each other, we spend too much money on military expenditures and not enough money on feeding the poor and looking after the homeless and sick, and that we’re polluting our waters and air and that we’re playing around with these exotic weapons, thermonuclear weapons and atomic weapons, which have such a devastating effect on our earth and our cosmos, and they don’t like that,” Hellyer said.
He said that aliens wish they could share more technology with humans, but they’re afraid we’d use these advances for warfare.
“As far as technology is concerned, they are light years ahead of us, and we have learned a lot of things from them,” Hellyer said. “A lot of the things we use today we got from them, you know – LED lights and microchips and Kevlar vests and all sorts things that we got from their technology, and we could get a lot more, too, especially in the fields of medicine and agriculture if we would go about it peacefully.
“But, I think, maybe some of our people are more interested in getting the military technology, and I think that’s wrong-headed, and that’s one of the things that we are going to have to change, because we’re going to have to work together, all of us, everywhere on the planet,” he said.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/06/canadas-former-defense-chief-says-space-aliens-live-among-us-but-hate-our-nukes/
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/06/canadas-former-defense-chief-says-space-aliens-live-among-us-but-hate-our-nukes/
19 January 2014 11:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
MONTREAL—Stephen Hawking’s warnings of an alien invasion have prompted a vigorous defence of extraterrestrials by their most prominent Canadian fan.
Former federal defence minister Paul Hellyer, 86, believes not only that aliens have visited Earth but also that they have contributed greatly to human technological advances.
So he can’t quite understand why the world renowned astrophysicist views them with such trepidation; Hawking recently warned that malevolent aliens could lead to the destruction of humanity.
The longtime cabinet minister accuses Hawking of spreading misinformation about extraterrestrials.
“I think he’s indulging in some pretty scary talk there that I would have hoped would not come from someone with such an established stature,” Hellyer said in an interview.
“I think it’s really sad that a scientist of his repute would contribute to what I would consider more misinformation about a vast and very important subject.”
Hawking speculates in a new documentary that most extraterrestrial life will be similar to microbes, or small animals — but he adds that advanced life forms may be “nomads, looking to conquer and colonize” new planets.
Hellyer served in the Liberal cabinets of Louis St. Laurent, Lester Pearson and Pierre Trudeau, later crossed the floor to the Conservative party, and eventually returned to the Liberals.
Hellyer, who ran for the Liberal party leadership in 1968, has been speaking out publicly about “the star visitors” for years. His most recent speech was in Washington in April 2009.
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He dismisses a suggestion that some people might find his views a little hard to believe.
“The reality is that they’ve (aliens) been visiting Earth for decades and probably millennia and have contributed considerably to our knowledge,” Hellyer said.
He says earthlings owe a lot to their alien friends. Even that computer screen on your desk, he says, can trace its origins to spaceships.
“Microchips, for example, fiber-optics, they are just two of the many things that allegedly — and probably for real — came from crashed vehicles,” Hellyer said.
Hellyer admits that when he was defence minister, he never got any briefings on UFOs from the military. He says he got reports of sightings, and that some of them could not be explained.
His interest in aliens goes back at least as far as 1967, Canada’s centennial year.
That’s the year Hellyer went to St. Paul, Alta., to officially inaugurate the world’s first flying saucer landing pad which was built by the locals to celebrate the centennial.
The town continues to get about 5,000 visitors a year, with more than half making a pilgrimage to the landing pad.
Liberal Senator Colin Kenny was approached by Hellyer in late 2005 and asked to hold public hearings on Canadian exopolitics. That’s the politics of how to deal with extraterrestrial contact.
Kenny, who chaired the Senate defence committee, remembers the meeting well.
“I liked Paul, I worked for him in the leadership race in 1968, and when he called me up to see me I was pleased to see him and we reminisced for a while,” Kenny recalls.
“Then, wow! Out of the blue, he starts talking about extraterrestrials and how they’re everywhere and they have these immense powers.”
Kenny says his opinion about aliens hasn’t changed since that meeting five years ago: “I think it’s for the birds.”
“I’m certainly not going to waste any of my time on the extraterrestrial business,” Kenny said.
A past president of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada agrees there might be UFOs out there, but he’s a little more hesitant about aliens. He takes Hawking’s warning with a grain of salt.
“I think it’s an opinion more than anything,” Randy Attwood said.
“I think he may be throwing the ball out into the field, just to try to get people to actually start talking about this.”
Attwood says data gathered during the exploration of Mars by unmanned spacecraft give some credence to Hawking, who is an honorary member of the astronomical society.
“All things are pointing now to life on Mars in the past, possibly when its orbit was different,” he said. “It had an atmosphere, it was warmer, there was running water.”
“So it’s quite possible that life was in fact there — not Martian wilder beasts or anything like that — but multiple-cell organisms.”
Attwood says given that one of Earth’s closest neighbours potentially had life, it’s quite possible that life, in fact, exists elsewhere in the universe.
“Whether it’s single-celled or multiple-cell, or beings that are actually travelling through space, we don’t know,” he said.
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2010/05/03/paul_hellyer_defends_aliens_after_stephen_hawkings_warning.html
Former federal defence minister Paul Hellyer, 86, believes not only that aliens have visited Earth but also that they have contributed greatly to human technological advances.
So he can’t quite understand why the world renowned astrophysicist views them with such trepidation; Hawking recently warned that malevolent aliens could lead to the destruction of humanity.
The longtime cabinet minister accuses Hawking of spreading misinformation about extraterrestrials.
“I think he’s indulging in some pretty scary talk there that I would have hoped would not come from someone with such an established stature,” Hellyer said in an interview.
“I think it’s really sad that a scientist of his repute would contribute to what I would consider more misinformation about a vast and very important subject.”
Hawking speculates in a new documentary that most extraterrestrial life will be similar to microbes, or small animals — but he adds that advanced life forms may be “nomads, looking to conquer and colonize” new planets.
Hellyer served in the Liberal cabinets of Louis St. Laurent, Lester Pearson and Pierre Trudeau, later crossed the floor to the Conservative party, and eventually returned to the Liberals.
Hellyer, who ran for the Liberal party leadership in 1968, has been speaking out publicly about “the star visitors” for years. His most recent speech was in Washington in April 2009.
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He dismisses a suggestion that some people might find his views a little hard to believe.
“The reality is that they’ve (aliens) been visiting Earth for decades and probably millennia and have contributed considerably to our knowledge,” Hellyer said.
He says earthlings owe a lot to their alien friends. Even that computer screen on your desk, he says, can trace its origins to spaceships.
“Microchips, for example, fiber-optics, they are just two of the many things that allegedly — and probably for real — came from crashed vehicles,” Hellyer said.
Hellyer admits that when he was defence minister, he never got any briefings on UFOs from the military. He says he got reports of sightings, and that some of them could not be explained.
His interest in aliens goes back at least as far as 1967, Canada’s centennial year.
That’s the year Hellyer went to St. Paul, Alta., to officially inaugurate the world’s first flying saucer landing pad which was built by the locals to celebrate the centennial.
The town continues to get about 5,000 visitors a year, with more than half making a pilgrimage to the landing pad.
Liberal Senator Colin Kenny was approached by Hellyer in late 2005 and asked to hold public hearings on Canadian exopolitics. That’s the politics of how to deal with extraterrestrial contact.
Kenny, who chaired the Senate defence committee, remembers the meeting well.
“I liked Paul, I worked for him in the leadership race in 1968, and when he called me up to see me I was pleased to see him and we reminisced for a while,” Kenny recalls.
“Then, wow! Out of the blue, he starts talking about extraterrestrials and how they’re everywhere and they have these immense powers.”
Kenny says his opinion about aliens hasn’t changed since that meeting five years ago: “I think it’s for the birds.”
“I’m certainly not going to waste any of my time on the extraterrestrial business,” Kenny said.
A past president of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada agrees there might be UFOs out there, but he’s a little more hesitant about aliens. He takes Hawking’s warning with a grain of salt.
“I think it’s an opinion more than anything,” Randy Attwood said.
“I think he may be throwing the ball out into the field, just to try to get people to actually start talking about this.”
Attwood says data gathered during the exploration of Mars by unmanned spacecraft give some credence to Hawking, who is an honorary member of the astronomical society.
“All things are pointing now to life on Mars in the past, possibly when its orbit was different,” he said. “It had an atmosphere, it was warmer, there was running water.”
“So it’s quite possible that life was in fact there — not Martian wilder beasts or anything like that — but multiple-cell organisms.”
Attwood says given that one of Earth’s closest neighbours potentially had life, it’s quite possible that life, in fact, exists elsewhere in the universe.
“Whether it’s single-celled or multiple-cell, or beings that are actually travelling through space, we don’t know,” he said.
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2010/05/03/paul_hellyer_defends_aliens_after_stephen_hawkings_warning.html
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2010/05/03/paul_hellyer_defends_aliens_after_stephen_hawkings_warning.html
19 January 2014 11:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg6VTzacb9I
http://rt.com/shows/sophieco/%D1%81anada-minister-defense-ufo-959/
FULL SCRIPT: http://on.rt.com/32htd6
https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=Pg6VTzacb9I
Is these guys strange, why they use this voice to talk about this in introduction??
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Sophie Shevardnadze: Our guest today is the Honorable Paul Hellyer, former minister of Defense of Canada, and he believes that life forms from space are present on Earth. It’s great to have you on our show. Why do you say that UFOs are as real as airplanes flying over our heads?
Paul Hellyer: Because I know that they are. As a matter of fact, they’ve been visiting our planet for thousands of years and one of the cases that would interest you most if you give me two or three minutes to answer is that during the Cold War, 1961, there were about 50 UFOs in formation flying south from Russia across Europe, and Supreme Allied Command was very concerned and about ready to press the “Panic” button when they turned around and went back over the North Pole. They decided to do an investigation and they investigated for 3 years and they decided that, with absolute certainty, four species - at least – had been visiting this planet for thousands of years. We have a long history of UFOs and of course there has been a lot more activity in the last few decades, since we invented the atomic bomb and they are very concerned about that and the fact that we might use it again, and because the Cosmos is a unity and it affects not just us but other people in the Cosmos, they are very much afraid that we might be stupid enough to start using atomic weapons again, and this would be very bad for us and for them as well.
FULL SCRIPT: http://on.rt.com/32htd6
http://rt.com/shows/sophieco/%D1%81anada-minister-defense-ufo-959/
FULL SCRIPT: http://on.rt.com/32htd6
https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=Pg6VTzacb9I
Is these guys strange, why they use this voice to talk about this in introduction??
===
Sophie Shevardnadze: Our guest today is the Honorable Paul Hellyer, former minister of Defense of Canada, and he believes that life forms from space are present on Earth. It’s great to have you on our show. Why do you say that UFOs are as real as airplanes flying over our heads?
Paul Hellyer: Because I know that they are. As a matter of fact, they’ve been visiting our planet for thousands of years and one of the cases that would interest you most if you give me two or three minutes to answer is that during the Cold War, 1961, there were about 50 UFOs in formation flying south from Russia across Europe, and Supreme Allied Command was very concerned and about ready to press the “Panic” button when they turned around and went back over the North Pole. They decided to do an investigation and they investigated for 3 years and they decided that, with absolute certainty, four species - at least – had been visiting this planet for thousands of years. We have a long history of UFOs and of course there has been a lot more activity in the last few decades, since we invented the atomic bomb and they are very concerned about that and the fact that we might use it again, and because the Cosmos is a unity and it affects not just us but other people in the Cosmos, they are very much afraid that we might be stupid enough to start using atomic weapons again, and this would be very bad for us and for them as well.
FULL SCRIPT: http://on.rt.com/32htd6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg6VTzacb9I
19 January 2014 11:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Do Aliens Exist? Yes, And Some 'Look Just Like Us,’ Says Paul Hellyer, Former Canadian Defense Minister [VIDE0
http://www.ibtimes.com/do-aliens-exist-yes-some-look-just-us-says-paul-hellyer-former-canadian-defense-minister-video
Paul Hellyer, the 90-year-old former Canadian defense minister and firm believer in extraterrestrial life, said aliens from places like Andromeda, Pleiades and Zeta Reticuli walk among us and "look just like us." YouTube
Lots of people believe in extraterrestrial life forms, but not many can give specific details about what they look like and where they're living. But that's just what Paul Hellyer, the now-90-year-old former defense minister of Canada, did in his recent interview with Russia Today, claiming there are 80 different species of alien life, from places like Andromeda, Pleiades and Zeta Reticuli, and some look just like us.
“The latest reports that I’ve been getting from various sources are that there are about 80 different species and some of them look just like us and they could walk down the street and you wouldn’t know if you walked past one," said Hellyer, who served during the Cold War, who went public with his theories on extraterrestrial life in 2005, The National Post reported. "They are what we call 'Nordic Blondes' and also the Tall Whites who were actually working with the U.S. air force in Nevada. They’re able to get away with that; they had a couple of their ladies dressed as nuns go into Las Vegas to shop and they weren’t detected. ... Then there’s the Short Greys as they are called, and they are the ones you see in most of the cartoons, they have very slim arms and legs, they are very short, just a little over 5 feet, and they have a great big head and great big brown eyes. But there are different species and you have to know that they are different species and know that they all are different. If you saw the Short Greys, you’d certainly know there’s something up that you’ve never seen before, but if you saw one of the Nordic Blondes, you’d probably say, “I wonder if she’s from Denmark or somewhere.”
But fear not: Hellyer said most of the aliens who have “been visiting our planet for thousands of years” are “benign and benevolent, and they do want to help us, [but] there may be one or two species which do not.”
However, he does believe that these species, who have a “long history” — he said he knows of 50 reports of UFOs during the Cold War — are concerned about unconventional warfare.
“Since we invented the atomic bomb and they are very concerned about that and the fact that we might use it again, and because the Cosmos is a unity and it affects not just us but other people in the Cosmos, they are very much afraid that we might be stupid enough to start using atomic weapons again, and this would be very bad for us and for them as well,” he said.
“They don’t want to tell us how to run our affairs, they have accepted the fact that this is our planet, and that we have the right to run it, but they are very-very concerned: they don’t think we are good stewards of our planet, we’re clear-cutting our forests, we’re polluting our rivers and our lakes, and we’re dumping sewage in the oceans, and we’re doing all sorts of things that are not what good stewards of their homes should be doing. They don’t like that and they made it very clear. As a matter of fact, they have given us a warning.”
One of the most startling of all his claims, though, came about halfway through the interview when he was asked whether or not he’s ever had an encounter personally with aliens.
“Not an encounter with aliens, no. I’ve seen a UFO, about 120 miles north of Toronto, over Lake Muskoka, where I have a cottage,” he admitted. Hellyer said he and his wife had been looking at the stars when they spotted a UFO.
“We watched it until our necks almost broke for about 20 minutes, and it was definitely a UFO because it could change position in the sky by three or four degrees in three or four seconds,” he said.
Hellyer went on to say that when he was minister, he received plenty of “sighting reports,” though about 80 percent of them were “sights of Venus or of plasma or a dozen other things.”
“But there were 15 percent or 20 percent for which there was no explanation, and they were the genuine unidentified flying objects,” he added.
Hellyer said he’s hopeful someone will crack the case and share their findings with the world that aliens do exist. “There’s just so much evidence, if anybody will take time off to do a little bit of research and study…There’s just a lot of information out there and it doesn’t take very long to get your hands on it.”
Read Paul Hellyer’s full interview over at RT.com or watch the video below.
http://www.ibtimes.com/do-aliens-exist-yes-some-look-just-us-says-paul-hellyer-former-canadian-defense-minister-video
Paul Hellyer, the 90-year-old former Canadian defense minister and firm believer in extraterrestrial life, said aliens from places like Andromeda, Pleiades and Zeta Reticuli walk among us and "look just like us." YouTube
Lots of people believe in extraterrestrial life forms, but not many can give specific details about what they look like and where they're living. But that's just what Paul Hellyer, the now-90-year-old former defense minister of Canada, did in his recent interview with Russia Today, claiming there are 80 different species of alien life, from places like Andromeda, Pleiades and Zeta Reticuli, and some look just like us.
“The latest reports that I’ve been getting from various sources are that there are about 80 different species and some of them look just like us and they could walk down the street and you wouldn’t know if you walked past one," said Hellyer, who served during the Cold War, who went public with his theories on extraterrestrial life in 2005, The National Post reported. "They are what we call 'Nordic Blondes' and also the Tall Whites who were actually working with the U.S. air force in Nevada. They’re able to get away with that; they had a couple of their ladies dressed as nuns go into Las Vegas to shop and they weren’t detected. ... Then there’s the Short Greys as they are called, and they are the ones you see in most of the cartoons, they have very slim arms and legs, they are very short, just a little over 5 feet, and they have a great big head and great big brown eyes. But there are different species and you have to know that they are different species and know that they all are different. If you saw the Short Greys, you’d certainly know there’s something up that you’ve never seen before, but if you saw one of the Nordic Blondes, you’d probably say, “I wonder if she’s from Denmark or somewhere.”
But fear not: Hellyer said most of the aliens who have “been visiting our planet for thousands of years” are “benign and benevolent, and they do want to help us, [but] there may be one or two species which do not.”
However, he does believe that these species, who have a “long history” — he said he knows of 50 reports of UFOs during the Cold War — are concerned about unconventional warfare.
“Since we invented the atomic bomb and they are very concerned about that and the fact that we might use it again, and because the Cosmos is a unity and it affects not just us but other people in the Cosmos, they are very much afraid that we might be stupid enough to start using atomic weapons again, and this would be very bad for us and for them as well,” he said.
“They don’t want to tell us how to run our affairs, they have accepted the fact that this is our planet, and that we have the right to run it, but they are very-very concerned: they don’t think we are good stewards of our planet, we’re clear-cutting our forests, we’re polluting our rivers and our lakes, and we’re dumping sewage in the oceans, and we’re doing all sorts of things that are not what good stewards of their homes should be doing. They don’t like that and they made it very clear. As a matter of fact, they have given us a warning.”
One of the most startling of all his claims, though, came about halfway through the interview when he was asked whether or not he’s ever had an encounter personally with aliens.
“Not an encounter with aliens, no. I’ve seen a UFO, about 120 miles north of Toronto, over Lake Muskoka, where I have a cottage,” he admitted. Hellyer said he and his wife had been looking at the stars when they spotted a UFO.
“We watched it until our necks almost broke for about 20 minutes, and it was definitely a UFO because it could change position in the sky by three or four degrees in three or four seconds,” he said.
Hellyer went on to say that when he was minister, he received plenty of “sighting reports,” though about 80 percent of them were “sights of Venus or of plasma or a dozen other things.”
“But there were 15 percent or 20 percent for which there was no explanation, and they were the genuine unidentified flying objects,” he added.
Hellyer said he’s hopeful someone will crack the case and share their findings with the world that aliens do exist. “There’s just so much evidence, if anybody will take time off to do a little bit of research and study…There’s just a lot of information out there and it doesn’t take very long to get your hands on it.”
Read Paul Hellyer’s full interview over at RT.com or watch the video below.
http://www.ibtimes.com/do-aliens-exist-yes-some-look-just-us-says-paul-hellyer-former-canadian-defense-minister-video
19 January 2014 11:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Charles Jaco was the CNN reporter famous for covering the 1990 Persian Gulf War.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98JDKB-Qmxs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98JDKB-Qmxs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98JDKB-Qmxs
19 January 2014 11:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Canada’s Former Defense Minister, Paul Hellyer, Embraces Insanity
By Kyle B. Stiff
Congratulations! You’ve just done a google search for “paul hellyer crazy” and it brought you here. You may have done this because you heard that Paul Hellyer, Canada’s former Defense Minister, has made some wild statements about various governments interacting with “alien species”. You may have been disturbed, so you did a google search hoping that a comforting CNN article would pop up and explain that Paul Hellyer is, in fact, batshit crazy.
But CNN doesn’t post stories like that, does it? In the same way that some families don’t discuss politics and religion at the dinner table, CNN tends not to discuss UFOs or the beings that inhabit them. That’s my job. And, get this: Paul Hellyer is quite sane.
How can this be? Despite his legit career and level-headed demeanor, the man publicly speaks about aliens! Not to mention his nutball opinions about banking conspiracies and the dangers of global warning.
Here’s the thing. I could spend a hundred paragraphs rambling on at length about various UFO sightings and a handful of incompetent conspiracies to keep the whole thing out of the public eye, and you could respond that no UFOs have landed in front of the White House, and we could both pretend to be objective and rational and the whole thing would start to sound like the comments section in a YouTube video… but why bother? Are any of us truly rational and objective? Isn’t it more the case that we form an opinion first and look for evidence second?
I’ll go ahead and say that talking about the subject of aliens isn’t cause for questioning someone’s sanity. Paul Hellyer has already stated, more than once, that he still has a lot to learn about the subjects that he’s bringing to the public’s attention. I’ve waited around at enough bus stops to know that crazy doesn’t often sound like humble, so I’m thinking Mr. Hellyer may be the latter rather than the former. Really, what do we know about the universe we live in? Do we know a great deal, or do we know only very little? If you can admit that we know only a very little bit about this very big and complicated universe, then can you also admit that associating Paul Hellyer with the term “crazy” might be an emotional reaction rather than a rational response?
Now, I know it would have been nice if you could have gotten a little objective truth from a CNN article rather than listen to a nutjob like me ramble on. As a consolation prize, here’s a video of one of CNN’s objective news reports from back in the day. Be sure to watch the whole thing in order to see the maximum amount of objectivity.
http://kylebstiff.wordpress.com/conspiracy/canadas-former-defense-minister-paul-hellyer-embraces-insanity/
By Kyle B. Stiff
Congratulations! You’ve just done a google search for “paul hellyer crazy” and it brought you here. You may have done this because you heard that Paul Hellyer, Canada’s former Defense Minister, has made some wild statements about various governments interacting with “alien species”. You may have been disturbed, so you did a google search hoping that a comforting CNN article would pop up and explain that Paul Hellyer is, in fact, batshit crazy.
But CNN doesn’t post stories like that, does it? In the same way that some families don’t discuss politics and religion at the dinner table, CNN tends not to discuss UFOs or the beings that inhabit them. That’s my job. And, get this: Paul Hellyer is quite sane.
How can this be? Despite his legit career and level-headed demeanor, the man publicly speaks about aliens! Not to mention his nutball opinions about banking conspiracies and the dangers of global warning.
Here’s the thing. I could spend a hundred paragraphs rambling on at length about various UFO sightings and a handful of incompetent conspiracies to keep the whole thing out of the public eye, and you could respond that no UFOs have landed in front of the White House, and we could both pretend to be objective and rational and the whole thing would start to sound like the comments section in a YouTube video… but why bother? Are any of us truly rational and objective? Isn’t it more the case that we form an opinion first and look for evidence second?
I’ll go ahead and say that talking about the subject of aliens isn’t cause for questioning someone’s sanity. Paul Hellyer has already stated, more than once, that he still has a lot to learn about the subjects that he’s bringing to the public’s attention. I’ve waited around at enough bus stops to know that crazy doesn’t often sound like humble, so I’m thinking Mr. Hellyer may be the latter rather than the former. Really, what do we know about the universe we live in? Do we know a great deal, or do we know only very little? If you can admit that we know only a very little bit about this very big and complicated universe, then can you also admit that associating Paul Hellyer with the term “crazy” might be an emotional reaction rather than a rational response?
Now, I know it would have been nice if you could have gotten a little objective truth from a CNN article rather than listen to a nutjob like me ramble on. As a consolation prize, here’s a video of one of CNN’s objective news reports from back in the day. Be sure to watch the whole thing in order to see the maximum amount of objectivity.
http://kylebstiff.wordpress.com/conspiracy/canadas-former-defense-minister-paul-hellyer-embraces-insanity/
http://kylebstiff.wordpress.com/conspiracy/canadas-former-defense-minister-paul-hellyer-embraces-insanity/
19 January 2014 11:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.ghosttheory.com/2014/01/09/paul-hellyer
Why do people listen to Paul Hellyer?
Okay, he was an official of the Canadian government, even Minister of defense. But is he offering a single government document? OR does he just quote the popular media on the subject. I find the later to be the case, and yet he is practically revered for his willingness to be a voice for the believer community, and simply for having been a government minister everything he says is given weight as if it comes from government sources.
This video is a pretty good example of simply rehashing established stories, urban legends and conspiracy theories without offering single piece of evidence beyond that we should take his word, and that we should believe what he believes because he read it in a book, or a “chap” he talked with told him.
He was Canadian minister of Defense in 1960s, ruling over the country’s armed forces during the time of the Cold War — and when he retired he publicly stated that we are not alone in the universe, and some guests from outer space actually live here, on planet Earth. Is this fantasy? Is someone actually watching us? Today we ask the man who says UFOs are a serious business — Paul Hellyer
Published on Jan 5, 2014
I have addressed this before and am sure will again, but Hellyer brings it up so it bears saying.
They come from various places. For a long while I only knew about ones who came from different star systems – the Pleades, Zeta Reticuli and several other star systems…but in the past few months I have met [those] who made me aware that there are some in our star system, and that there are actually extraterrestrials who live on a planet called Andromedia, which is one of the moons of Saturn and that there are others on Venus and some on Mars and that they may be interacting between themselves – I suspect that they are because there is what is called a “Federation” of these people and they have rules. For example, one of the rules is that they don’t interfere with our affairs unless there are invited to – and that’s one of the reasons, probably, that we haven’t seen more of them until very recently…
Here is a little astronomy lesson on the recognized moons of Saturn. Pay careful attention to the column on the farthest right which gives a a size comparison to our own moon.
0000 look the link 0000
Earth’s moon lacks the gravity to retain an atmosphere. Only one of Saturn’s moons even comes close to sufficient size to do so, Iapetus, which was discovered October 25, 1671 by Giovanni Cassini. Having been around the block a few times on this issue I am going to go ahead and address the possibility that there is a moon of Saturn being kept secret from us by the NWO/Alien conspiracy to hide the truth. Next largest of Saturn’s moons is Titan at just more than half the size of our moon, discovered March 25, 1655 by Christian Huygens. Smaller than that there is really little reason to consider an intelligent race living there, but if you like, the smallest object orbiting Saturn (ruling out bodies within the ring systems themselves as far too hostile) Mimas was discovered September 17, 1789 by William Herschel. So for a conspiracy to be hiding a moon of the size to be reasonably habitable, that conspiracy would have to go back around four hundred years. When you consider that many of these discoveries were made with telescopes of lower quality and less magnification than is possible for the average backyard hobby astronomer, it seems unlikely such a conspiracy could be kept up for long.
Though only seven main stars are visible to the naked eye, the Pleiades is a stellar nursery where hundreds of young stars are forming. A large majority of these too young to have formed planetary systems, the oldest being 1/50th of the age of our sun. No life is coming from there.
Zeta Reticuli has been popularized by the Betty and Barney Hill abduction case, from a map that Betty hill recreated from one she reported seeing where she was taken. In any case, Zeta Reticuli is a binary system which severely reduces the odds of it having a “Goldilocks” zone to support life, and the pair are orbited by a debris disc that would make survival of any potential life unlikely.
Hellyer goes on to say that these aliens would give us a lot more technology
They are here among us and I’m not afraid because in most cases, as far as technology is concerned, they are light years ahead of us, and we have learned a lot of things from them. A lot of the things we use today we got from them, you know – led lights and microchips and Kevlar vests and all sorts things that we got from their technology and we could get a lot more too, especially in the fields of medicine and agriculture if we would go about it peacefully. But, I think, maybe some of our people are more interested in getting the military technology, and I think that’s wrong-headed, and that’s one of the things that we are going to have to change, because we’re going to have to work together, all of us, everywhere on the planet.
LED lights which Hellyer pronounces as one word like lead rather than how it is intended to be spoken, l,e,d. Hellyer being educated as an engineer, you might expect a little better. I have to wonder, as a previous minister of defense does he understand the prevalence of the microchip in military technology? You can barely name a piece of military equipment that does not contain or interact with microchips, all the way down to the camouflage patterns on battle uniforms. And Kevlar? Has the Canadian Minister of Defense not heard of kevlar helmets? Kevlar body armor? Or did alien races “light years” ahead of us in technology just give us these things and either not know how they could be used, or assume we would not figure out ways to use them?
So I ask again, why do the believers listen to a man who clearly is only repeating what he has read in books and been told by other believers?
Henry@GhostTheory.com
Why do people listen to Paul Hellyer?
Okay, he was an official of the Canadian government, even Minister of defense. But is he offering a single government document? OR does he just quote the popular media on the subject. I find the later to be the case, and yet he is practically revered for his willingness to be a voice for the believer community, and simply for having been a government minister everything he says is given weight as if it comes from government sources.
This video is a pretty good example of simply rehashing established stories, urban legends and conspiracy theories without offering single piece of evidence beyond that we should take his word, and that we should believe what he believes because he read it in a book, or a “chap” he talked with told him.
He was Canadian minister of Defense in 1960s, ruling over the country’s armed forces during the time of the Cold War — and when he retired he publicly stated that we are not alone in the universe, and some guests from outer space actually live here, on planet Earth. Is this fantasy? Is someone actually watching us? Today we ask the man who says UFOs are a serious business — Paul Hellyer
Published on Jan 5, 2014
I have addressed this before and am sure will again, but Hellyer brings it up so it bears saying.
They come from various places. For a long while I only knew about ones who came from different star systems – the Pleades, Zeta Reticuli and several other star systems…but in the past few months I have met [those] who made me aware that there are some in our star system, and that there are actually extraterrestrials who live on a planet called Andromedia, which is one of the moons of Saturn and that there are others on Venus and some on Mars and that they may be interacting between themselves – I suspect that they are because there is what is called a “Federation” of these people and they have rules. For example, one of the rules is that they don’t interfere with our affairs unless there are invited to – and that’s one of the reasons, probably, that we haven’t seen more of them until very recently…
Here is a little astronomy lesson on the recognized moons of Saturn. Pay careful attention to the column on the farthest right which gives a a size comparison to our own moon.
0000 look the link 0000
Earth’s moon lacks the gravity to retain an atmosphere. Only one of Saturn’s moons even comes close to sufficient size to do so, Iapetus, which was discovered October 25, 1671 by Giovanni Cassini. Having been around the block a few times on this issue I am going to go ahead and address the possibility that there is a moon of Saturn being kept secret from us by the NWO/Alien conspiracy to hide the truth. Next largest of Saturn’s moons is Titan at just more than half the size of our moon, discovered March 25, 1655 by Christian Huygens. Smaller than that there is really little reason to consider an intelligent race living there, but if you like, the smallest object orbiting Saturn (ruling out bodies within the ring systems themselves as far too hostile) Mimas was discovered September 17, 1789 by William Herschel. So for a conspiracy to be hiding a moon of the size to be reasonably habitable, that conspiracy would have to go back around four hundred years. When you consider that many of these discoveries were made with telescopes of lower quality and less magnification than is possible for the average backyard hobby astronomer, it seems unlikely such a conspiracy could be kept up for long.
Though only seven main stars are visible to the naked eye, the Pleiades is a stellar nursery where hundreds of young stars are forming. A large majority of these too young to have formed planetary systems, the oldest being 1/50th of the age of our sun. No life is coming from there.
Zeta Reticuli has been popularized by the Betty and Barney Hill abduction case, from a map that Betty hill recreated from one she reported seeing where she was taken. In any case, Zeta Reticuli is a binary system which severely reduces the odds of it having a “Goldilocks” zone to support life, and the pair are orbited by a debris disc that would make survival of any potential life unlikely.
Hellyer goes on to say that these aliens would give us a lot more technology
They are here among us and I’m not afraid because in most cases, as far as technology is concerned, they are light years ahead of us, and we have learned a lot of things from them. A lot of the things we use today we got from them, you know – led lights and microchips and Kevlar vests and all sorts things that we got from their technology and we could get a lot more too, especially in the fields of medicine and agriculture if we would go about it peacefully. But, I think, maybe some of our people are more interested in getting the military technology, and I think that’s wrong-headed, and that’s one of the things that we are going to have to change, because we’re going to have to work together, all of us, everywhere on the planet.
LED lights which Hellyer pronounces as one word like lead rather than how it is intended to be spoken, l,e,d. Hellyer being educated as an engineer, you might expect a little better. I have to wonder, as a previous minister of defense does he understand the prevalence of the microchip in military technology? You can barely name a piece of military equipment that does not contain or interact with microchips, all the way down to the camouflage patterns on battle uniforms. And Kevlar? Has the Canadian Minister of Defense not heard of kevlar helmets? Kevlar body armor? Or did alien races “light years” ahead of us in technology just give us these things and either not know how they could be used, or assume we would not figure out ways to use them?
So I ask again, why do the believers listen to a man who clearly is only repeating what he has read in books and been told by other believers?
Henry@GhostTheory.com
http://www.ghosttheory.com/2014/01/09/paul-hellyer
19 January 2014 11:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/06/paul-hellyer-canada-aliens_n_4547846.html
Don't panic, but apparently aliens have been visiting our planet for thousands of years and we are on the brink of an intergalactic war.
Paul Hellyer, Canada's former defence minister – who ruled over the country's armed forces during the time of the Cold War – claims he has evidence that are as many as 80 species of alien on earth – and they're not very happy with us.
In an interview with Russia Today, the world's highest-ranking alien believer explained: "They don’t want to tell us how to run our affairs, they have accepted the fact that this is our planet, and that we have the right to run it, but they are very, very concerned."
"They don’t think we are good stewards of our planet," he added. "We’re clear cutting our forests, we’re polluting our rivers and our lakes, and we’re dumping sewage in the oceans. They don’t like that and they made it very clear."
Extraterrestrials have given us a warning, he said.
"We’re really wrecking our planet and in fact that something dreadful is going to happen to it if we don’t smarten up and change our ways," he said.
"We spend too much time fighting each other, we spend too much money on military expenditures, and not enough on feeding the poor and looking after the homeless and the sick.
"Our future as a species, and here I mean all of the species in the world, is potentially at risk if we don’t figure what’s going on and work together to try and make life more amenable for all of us, and to work with our neighbours from other planets as well."
But he sounded less convincing when describing his own experience with UFOs.
He claims to have seen one, but when asked what it was like he said: "It just looks like a star."
He added: "The Star of Bethlehem is one of God's flying saucers."
Simon Parkes, a British city councillor, has previously joined the former Canadian defence minister in claiming aliens exist and visit Earth.
Parkes, told the Northern Echo that he has fathered a child with an alien. In fact, Parkes says he has sex with an extraterrestrial he calls the "Cat Queen" four times a year. In case you're wondering, the kid's name is Zarka.
Unsurprisingly, Parkes says the relationship has put some strain on his marriage with his human wife.
Don't panic, but apparently aliens have been visiting our planet for thousands of years and we are on the brink of an intergalactic war.
Paul Hellyer, Canada's former defence minister – who ruled over the country's armed forces during the time of the Cold War – claims he has evidence that are as many as 80 species of alien on earth – and they're not very happy with us.
In an interview with Russia Today, the world's highest-ranking alien believer explained: "They don’t want to tell us how to run our affairs, they have accepted the fact that this is our planet, and that we have the right to run it, but they are very, very concerned."
"They don’t think we are good stewards of our planet," he added. "We’re clear cutting our forests, we’re polluting our rivers and our lakes, and we’re dumping sewage in the oceans. They don’t like that and they made it very clear."
Extraterrestrials have given us a warning, he said.
"We’re really wrecking our planet and in fact that something dreadful is going to happen to it if we don’t smarten up and change our ways," he said.
"We spend too much time fighting each other, we spend too much money on military expenditures, and not enough on feeding the poor and looking after the homeless and the sick.
"Our future as a species, and here I mean all of the species in the world, is potentially at risk if we don’t figure what’s going on and work together to try and make life more amenable for all of us, and to work with our neighbours from other planets as well."
But he sounded less convincing when describing his own experience with UFOs.
He claims to have seen one, but when asked what it was like he said: "It just looks like a star."
He added: "The Star of Bethlehem is one of God's flying saucers."
Simon Parkes, a British city councillor, has previously joined the former Canadian defence minister in claiming aliens exist and visit Earth.
Parkes, told the Northern Echo that he has fathered a child with an alien. In fact, Parkes says he has sex with an extraterrestrial he calls the "Cat Queen" four times a year. In case you're wondering, the kid's name is Zarka.
Unsurprisingly, Parkes says the relationship has put some strain on his marriage with his human wife.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/06/paul-hellyer-canada-aliens_n_4547846.html
19 January 2014 11:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Canada's ex-defense minister: Aliens would give us more tech if we'd stop wars
Paul Hellyer, who has long insisted that aliens have visited Earth for many years, says that when aliens saw the atomic bomb they decided that we were a great threat to the cosmos.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57616630-71/canadas-ex-defense-minister-aliens-would-give-us-more-tech-if-wed-stop-wars/
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Canada's ex-defense minister: Aliens would give us ...
Canada's ex-defense minister: Aliens would give us more tech if we'd stop wars
Paul Hellyer, who has long insisted that aliens have visited Earth for many years, says that when aliens saw the atomic bomb they decided that we were a great threat to the cosmos.
Chris Matyszczyk
Paul Hellyer, believer.
(Credit: Russia Today &*(kind-of..)
I don't want to disturb what you're doing right now, but apparently four different species of aliens have been visiting Earth for thousands of years.
I don't quite have the evidence at hand, but Paul Hellyer, who used to be Canada's defense minister, claims he has.
In an interview with Russia Today, Hellyer explained (as if it was obvious): "Of course, there's been a lot more activity in the last few decades."
The reason for this, he said, was that man was stupid enough to invent the atomic bomb. Aliens are frightened that we're going to use it again (and again) and that this will affect the whole balance of the cosmos.
Ergo, each visit seems to have symbolized: "What the hell are they doing in that insane asylum today?"
Hellyer suggested that there are Edward Snowden-style whistleblowers who have already revealed government knowledge of alien visits. "It doesn't take long to get your hands on it," he said.
Hellyer is perhaps less convincing about his own experience with UFOs. He claims to have seen one, but when asked what it was like he said: "It just looks like a star."
He added: "The Star of Bethlehem is one of God's flying saucers."
Hellyer used to believe that there were between 2 and 12 different species of alien. Now, he says he's received reports that there might be as many as 80.
What's perhaps most interesting to our self-centered species is that some of them apparently look just like us. Indeed, he claimed that two alien ladies went to Las Vegas to shop dressed as nuns and no one was any the wiser.
Why would they be? This was Vegas. Try that in Springfield, Ill.
In case you feel you might have met one in your home town, some are tall ("Nordic blondes"), some are short ("Short Grays"), and some look like aliens in cartoons.
At this point, you'll be worried about whether these aliens are mean-spirited. Hellyer said that only one or two species might be threatening. He didn't mention whether they spoke Klingon.
In previous pronouncements, Hellyer has insisted that aliens know how to make us greener.
The aliens would, it seems, like to teach us better ways to live. Hellyer believes, though, that they are waiting for our consent. Moreover, they're scared that if they revealed themselves we'd throw a conniption.
Honestly, it's as if these aliens have never seen a single sci-fi show. We've been begging them to sort us out for many a year.
You'll be wondering, though, about their technology. The aliens are "light years" ahead of us. And, apparently, "a lot of the things we use today, we got from them."
Ah, that's why it's called the Samsung Galaxy.
Microchips and Kevlar vests are two of the other creations that, according to the serious Hellyer, came from outer spatial sources.
We would get a lot more technology from them "if we would go about it peacefully."
Hellyer's concerned that we might truly need a Star Wars capability "if we shoot down every UFO that comes into our airspace."
It's easy to dismiss Hellyer as being, well, from another planet. But our obsession with what's out there belies, surely, our considerable dislike of what we have become.
Perhaps hardest to swallow is Hellyer's notion that the majority of alien species out there are benign, loving, and progressive.
To be supposedly within reach of better attitudes and better technologies -- and only not receiving them because we don't ask for them -- seems to be the ultimate in tragedy.
So, dear aliens, could you just prove your benevolent ways by sorting out the three things that are bothering me right now. You know what they are, because you have the technology, right?
I am asking you nicely. Pretty please?
Paul Hellyer, who has long insisted that aliens have visited Earth for many years, says that when aliens saw the atomic bomb they decided that we were a great threat to the cosmos.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57616630-71/canadas-ex-defense-minister-aliens-would-give-us-more-tech-if-wed-stop-wars/
CNET
News
Technically Incorrect
Canada's ex-defense minister: Aliens would give us ...
Canada's ex-defense minister: Aliens would give us more tech if we'd stop wars
Paul Hellyer, who has long insisted that aliens have visited Earth for many years, says that when aliens saw the atomic bomb they decided that we were a great threat to the cosmos.
Chris Matyszczyk
Paul Hellyer, believer.
(Credit: Russia Today &*(kind-of..)
I don't want to disturb what you're doing right now, but apparently four different species of aliens have been visiting Earth for thousands of years.
I don't quite have the evidence at hand, but Paul Hellyer, who used to be Canada's defense minister, claims he has.
In an interview with Russia Today, Hellyer explained (as if it was obvious): "Of course, there's been a lot more activity in the last few decades."
The reason for this, he said, was that man was stupid enough to invent the atomic bomb. Aliens are frightened that we're going to use it again (and again) and that this will affect the whole balance of the cosmos.
Ergo, each visit seems to have symbolized: "What the hell are they doing in that insane asylum today?"
Hellyer suggested that there are Edward Snowden-style whistleblowers who have already revealed government knowledge of alien visits. "It doesn't take long to get your hands on it," he said.
Hellyer is perhaps less convincing about his own experience with UFOs. He claims to have seen one, but when asked what it was like he said: "It just looks like a star."
He added: "The Star of Bethlehem is one of God's flying saucers."
Hellyer used to believe that there were between 2 and 12 different species of alien. Now, he says he's received reports that there might be as many as 80.
What's perhaps most interesting to our self-centered species is that some of them apparently look just like us. Indeed, he claimed that two alien ladies went to Las Vegas to shop dressed as nuns and no one was any the wiser.
Why would they be? This was Vegas. Try that in Springfield, Ill.
In case you feel you might have met one in your home town, some are tall ("Nordic blondes"), some are short ("Short Grays"), and some look like aliens in cartoons.
At this point, you'll be worried about whether these aliens are mean-spirited. Hellyer said that only one or two species might be threatening. He didn't mention whether they spoke Klingon.
In previous pronouncements, Hellyer has insisted that aliens know how to make us greener.
The aliens would, it seems, like to teach us better ways to live. Hellyer believes, though, that they are waiting for our consent. Moreover, they're scared that if they revealed themselves we'd throw a conniption.
Honestly, it's as if these aliens have never seen a single sci-fi show. We've been begging them to sort us out for many a year.
You'll be wondering, though, about their technology. The aliens are "light years" ahead of us. And, apparently, "a lot of the things we use today, we got from them."
Ah, that's why it's called the Samsung Galaxy.
Microchips and Kevlar vests are two of the other creations that, according to the serious Hellyer, came from outer spatial sources.
We would get a lot more technology from them "if we would go about it peacefully."
Hellyer's concerned that we might truly need a Star Wars capability "if we shoot down every UFO that comes into our airspace."
It's easy to dismiss Hellyer as being, well, from another planet. But our obsession with what's out there belies, surely, our considerable dislike of what we have become.
Perhaps hardest to swallow is Hellyer's notion that the majority of alien species out there are benign, loving, and progressive.
To be supposedly within reach of better attitudes and better technologies -- and only not receiving them because we don't ask for them -- seems to be the ultimate in tragedy.
So, dear aliens, could you just prove your benevolent ways by sorting out the three things that are bothering me right now. You know what they are, because you have the technology, right?
I am asking you nicely. Pretty please?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57616630-71/canadas-ex-defense-minister-aliens-would-give-us-more-tech-if-wed-stop-wars/
19 January 2014 11:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
At 89, former Canadian Cabinet Minister Paul Hellyer is still as active as ever, and deeply engaged in a wide variety of world issues, the most urgent of which is the world monetary and financial system.
http://www.paulhellyerweb.com/
*(Well, not anymore after BitCoin ... : )
Global Hope: A Plan to End the Worldwide Financial Crises
This article by Paul Hellyer focuses on the worldwide financial crises, its root causes, and his recommended solutions.
Click HERE to read more.
Greece Today, US Tomorrow. The People v. the Bankers.
Financial lobbyists in the U.S. are using the Greek cries as an object lesson to warn about the need to cut back public spending.
Click HERE to read more.
Europe's Deadly Transition From Social Democracy to Oligarchy
The easiest way to understand Europe's financial crisis is to look at the solutions being proposed to resolve it.
Click HERE to read more.
New interview with Paola Harris online now
Paul Hellyer was interviewed by Paola Harris on a wide range of world issues. The final video is 38 minutes long, and divided into four parts.
Click HERE to view part one now.
21 Books The Ruling Elite Doesn't Want You to Read
The title says it all!
Click HERE to read more.
Paul Hellyer's thought-provoking book "Light at the End of the Tunnel"
In this book, Paul Hellyer suggests that we have about ten years to wean ourselves from the oil economy and profoundly regrets that the Copenhagen Conference reflected little progress in that direction. The whole atmosphere was one that reminded him of Emperor Nero fiddling while Rome burned. World leaders simply have to do better! The book outlines the three monumental changes required to accommodate the miracle.
This book reflects the mature judgment of an author with broad experience in and out of public life. It sets out in stark and unvarnished terms most of the world’s major problems. The Human Species is hell bent for extinction unless we change our attitudes and actions with an urgency appropriate to impending disaster.
Paul Hellyer suggests that we have about ten years to wean ourselves from the oil economy and profoundly regrets that the Copenhagen Conference reflected little progress in that direction. The whole atmosphere was one that reminded him of Emperor Nero fiddling while Rome burned. World leaders simply have to do better! The book outlines the three monumental changes required to accommodate the miracle.
First, the book claims that exotic energy sources already exist. They have been developed by the U.S. “shadow government” at the massive underground “black operation” installations in Nevada and Arizona using technology borrowed from visitors from other planets. Yet they remain secret for the alleged benefit of the privileged few.
Second, the money has to be found to subsidize poor nations and facilitate major changes. This can be accomplished by a fundamental re-working of the monetary and banking system. Bank leverages must be dramatically reduced and the percentage of virtual money they create as debt strictly limited so that governments can gain the financial flexibility to finance the transition to sustainability.
Finally it will be necessary for all countries, races, faiths and colors to drop their antagonisms and work together in common purpose to save the heritage they have in common.
http://www.paulhellyerweb.com/
*(Well, not anymore after BitCoin ... : )
Global Hope: A Plan to End the Worldwide Financial Crises
This article by Paul Hellyer focuses on the worldwide financial crises, its root causes, and his recommended solutions.
Click HERE to read more.
Greece Today, US Tomorrow. The People v. the Bankers.
Financial lobbyists in the U.S. are using the Greek cries as an object lesson to warn about the need to cut back public spending.
Click HERE to read more.
Europe's Deadly Transition From Social Democracy to Oligarchy
The easiest way to understand Europe's financial crisis is to look at the solutions being proposed to resolve it.
Click HERE to read more.
New interview with Paola Harris online now
Paul Hellyer was interviewed by Paola Harris on a wide range of world issues. The final video is 38 minutes long, and divided into four parts.
Click HERE to view part one now.
21 Books The Ruling Elite Doesn't Want You to Read
The title says it all!
Click HERE to read more.
Paul Hellyer's thought-provoking book "Light at the End of the Tunnel"
In this book, Paul Hellyer suggests that we have about ten years to wean ourselves from the oil economy and profoundly regrets that the Copenhagen Conference reflected little progress in that direction. The whole atmosphere was one that reminded him of Emperor Nero fiddling while Rome burned. World leaders simply have to do better! The book outlines the three monumental changes required to accommodate the miracle.
This book reflects the mature judgment of an author with broad experience in and out of public life. It sets out in stark and unvarnished terms most of the world’s major problems. The Human Species is hell bent for extinction unless we change our attitudes and actions with an urgency appropriate to impending disaster.
Paul Hellyer suggests that we have about ten years to wean ourselves from the oil economy and profoundly regrets that the Copenhagen Conference reflected little progress in that direction. The whole atmosphere was one that reminded him of Emperor Nero fiddling while Rome burned. World leaders simply have to do better! The book outlines the three monumental changes required to accommodate the miracle.
First, the book claims that exotic energy sources already exist. They have been developed by the U.S. “shadow government” at the massive underground “black operation” installations in Nevada and Arizona using technology borrowed from visitors from other planets. Yet they remain secret for the alleged benefit of the privileged few.
Second, the money has to be found to subsidize poor nations and facilitate major changes. This can be accomplished by a fundamental re-working of the monetary and banking system. Bank leverages must be dramatically reduced and the percentage of virtual money they create as debt strictly limited so that governments can gain the financial flexibility to finance the transition to sustainability.
Finally it will be necessary for all countries, races, faiths and colors to drop their antagonisms and work together in common purpose to save the heritage they have in common.
http://www.paulhellyerweb.com/
19 January 2014 11:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/14/iranian-press-snowden-docs-prove-aliens-who-built-nazi-subs-also-control-u-s-foreign-policy/
A semi-official Iranian news agency reported Sunday that former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden had revealed documents proving that extraterrestrial beings had secretly controlled U.S. domestic and international policy since at least 1945.
The FARS news agency reported that nearly 2 million “top-secret documents” revealed by Snowden to Russia’s Federal Security Services (FSB) “confirmed” that an alien race known as “tall whites” was behind American efforts to create a global electronic surveillance system to hide their presence and eventually control the planet.
The “tall whites” had also assisted in the rise of Nazi Germany in the 1930s by helping them build more than 1,100 technologically advanced submarines in just four years, the Iranian news agency reported.
Canada’s former defense minister, Paul Hellyer, recently told Russia Today that at least 80 alien species had visited Earth — including the “tall whites,” which he claimed worked with the U.S. Air Force in Nevada.
Hellyer had been allowed to examine Snowden’s documents and proclaimed them “accurate,” according to the FARS report.
FARS claimed that a “cataclysmic power struggle” was under way in the U.S. government to purge its “secret regime” of extraterrestrials that was led by President Barack Obama himself.
The tea party activist Garrow, who also suggested the president would order nuclear attacks on U.S. cities, recently claimed that Obama would implement a secret plan decades in the making to distract from his sinking poll numbers by announcing that scientists had communicated with aliens.
Alas, like many such reports, their sourcing appears to be fairly circular and weakly founded.
Snowden himself said he didn’t bring any of his secret documents with him to Russia, where he’s now living, and the journalist he’s worked with on his revelations appeared to mock the FARS report.
“It was the story I was working on next,” Glenn Greenwald posted on Twitter in response to a question about the report. “I was scooped and I’m not happy about it. #AlienHitlerLink”
The FARS report itself was basically cut-and-pasted from the fringe conspiracy website What Does It Mean, and the semi-official Iranian news agency doesn’t have the best track record.
The site recently reported that a 27-year-old Iranian man had invented a time machine, and it was fooled by a satirical report in The Onion that most white rural voters would rather vote for former Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad than Barack Obama.
So even if Obama actually is going to reveal alien contact to boost his poll numbers and allow Canadian troops to overrun the U.S., as Garrow has claimed, that chain of events hasn’t been kicked off just yet.
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lol, comment"
ahf
@
I didn't believe it until I heard that the aliens were invisible-so it must be true- because I ain't never seen one.
A semi-official Iranian news agency reported Sunday that former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden had revealed documents proving that extraterrestrial beings had secretly controlled U.S. domestic and international policy since at least 1945.
The FARS news agency reported that nearly 2 million “top-secret documents” revealed by Snowden to Russia’s Federal Security Services (FSB) “confirmed” that an alien race known as “tall whites” was behind American efforts to create a global electronic surveillance system to hide their presence and eventually control the planet.
The “tall whites” had also assisted in the rise of Nazi Germany in the 1930s by helping them build more than 1,100 technologically advanced submarines in just four years, the Iranian news agency reported.
Canada’s former defense minister, Paul Hellyer, recently told Russia Today that at least 80 alien species had visited Earth — including the “tall whites,” which he claimed worked with the U.S. Air Force in Nevada.
Hellyer had been allowed to examine Snowden’s documents and proclaimed them “accurate,” according to the FARS report.
FARS claimed that a “cataclysmic power struggle” was under way in the U.S. government to purge its “secret regime” of extraterrestrials that was led by President Barack Obama himself.
The tea party activist Garrow, who also suggested the president would order nuclear attacks on U.S. cities, recently claimed that Obama would implement a secret plan decades in the making to distract from his sinking poll numbers by announcing that scientists had communicated with aliens.
Alas, like many such reports, their sourcing appears to be fairly circular and weakly founded.
Snowden himself said he didn’t bring any of his secret documents with him to Russia, where he’s now living, and the journalist he’s worked with on his revelations appeared to mock the FARS report.
“It was the story I was working on next,” Glenn Greenwald posted on Twitter in response to a question about the report. “I was scooped and I’m not happy about it. #AlienHitlerLink”
The FARS report itself was basically cut-and-pasted from the fringe conspiracy website What Does It Mean, and the semi-official Iranian news agency doesn’t have the best track record.
The site recently reported that a 27-year-old Iranian man had invented a time machine, and it was fooled by a satirical report in The Onion that most white rural voters would rather vote for former Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad than Barack Obama.
So even if Obama actually is going to reveal alien contact to boost his poll numbers and allow Canadian troops to overrun the U.S., as Garrow has claimed, that chain of events hasn’t been kicked off just yet.
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lol, comment"
ahf
@
I didn't believe it until I heard that the aliens were invisible-so it must be true- because I ain't never seen one.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/14/iranian-press-snowden-docs-prove-aliens-who-built-nazi-subs-also-control-u-s-foreign-policy/
19 January 2014 11:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Defense Minister > We need to evolve as spiritual beings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3RYMb9uoZ0
From April 29, 2013 to May 3, 2013 researchers, activists, political leaders, and former members of military services and government agencies representing ten countries gave testimony in Washington, DC to six former members of the United States Congress on the evidence of an Extraterrestrial presence engaging the human race.
The Citizen Hearing on Disclosure was an unprecedented event in terms of size, scope and the involvement of former Members of the U. S. Congress. With Over 30 hours of testimony from forty witnesses, the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure is the most concentrated body of evidence and testimony regarding the Extraterrestrial issue ever put into one place at one time.
The Citizen Hearing on Disclosure needs your help to educate the masses and ignite change around the world! Crowd funding is going to help to fund the post-production cost for high quality DVD/Blu-ray Box sets. This will include all the post-production tasks including editing, sound, music, and graphics. We are offering a variety of rewards for our backers, including access to exclusive behind-the-scenes video updates, digital audio downloads and limited edition DVDs of the finished product!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3RYMb9uoZ0
From April 29, 2013 to May 3, 2013 researchers, activists, political leaders, and former members of military services and government agencies representing ten countries gave testimony in Washington, DC to six former members of the United States Congress on the evidence of an Extraterrestrial presence engaging the human race.
The Citizen Hearing on Disclosure was an unprecedented event in terms of size, scope and the involvement of former Members of the U. S. Congress. With Over 30 hours of testimony from forty witnesses, the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure is the most concentrated body of evidence and testimony regarding the Extraterrestrial issue ever put into one place at one time.
The Citizen Hearing on Disclosure needs your help to educate the masses and ignite change around the world! Crowd funding is going to help to fund the post-production cost for high quality DVD/Blu-ray Box sets. This will include all the post-production tasks including editing, sound, music, and graphics. We are offering a variety of rewards for our backers, including access to exclusive behind-the-scenes video updates, digital audio downloads and limited edition DVDs of the finished product!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3RYMb9uoZ0
19 January 2014 11:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Hon. Paul Hellyer - Minister of National Defense
Source Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/CitizenHearing
Website: http://www.citizenhearing.org/
Producer: Reuben Langdon
Testified knowing of 4 Alien races actively visiting Earth.
Former Special Assistant to the Executive Director of the CIA Victor Marchetti: How the CIA Views the UFO Phenomenon, Second Look, Vol. 1, No. 7, Washington, D.C. (5/1979) -- "We have, indeed, been contacted -- perhaps even visited -- by extraterrestrial beings, and the US government, in collusion with the other national powers of the Earth, is determined to keep this information from the general public."
Deputy Chief of the Royal Belgian Air Force Major-General Wilfred de Brouwer: "Postface" in SOBEPS' Vague d'OVNI sur la Belgique - Un Dossier Exceptionnel, Brussels: SOBEPS (1991) -- "In any case, the Air Force has arrived to the conclusion that a certain number of anomalous phenomena has been produced within Belgian airspace. The numerous testimonies of ground observations compiled in this [SOBEPS] book, reinforced by the reports of the night of March 30-31 [1990], have led us to face the hypothesis that a certain number of unauthorized aerial activities have taken place. Until now, not a single trace of aggressiveness has been signaled; military or civilian air traffic has not been perturbed nor threatened. We can therefore advance that the presumed activities do not constitute a direct menace."
"The day will come undoubtedly when the phenomenon will be observed with technological means of detection and collection that won't leave a single doubt about its origin. This should lift a part of the veil that has covered the mystery for a long time. A mystery that continues to the present. But it exists, it is real, and that in itself is an important conclusion."
Japan's Top Government Spokesperson, Chief Cabinet Secretary Nobutaka Machimura and Japan's Defense Minister, Shigeru Ishiba :
Beliefs and Concerns about UFOs - Japan's top government spokesperson: UFO's definitely exist. Chief Cabinet Secretary Nobutaka Machimura said to reporters on December 18, 2007, "I definitely believe they (UFOs) exist."
3 days later Japan's Defence Minister Shigeru Ishiba considers how his Self Defence Forces could respond to an attack by space aliens while adhering to limits on military action under the country's war-renouncing Constitution. "There are no grounds for us to deny there are unidentified flying objects and some lifeform that controls them", Ishiba said. "Few discussions have been held on what the legal grounds are" for military response. (Bloomberg) by Stuart Biggs
Sworn Affidavit by a Lieutenant Walter Haut concerning his experience of the 1947 UFO crash AT Roswell, NM:
Lt. Walter Haut, public relations officer at Roswell Army Air Field in 1947 left a sworn affidavit concerning his experience with the Roswell UFO crash in 1947. His sworn affidavit was only to be opened after his death. Haut died in December 2005 and sometime in June of 2007 the text contained therein had been released. He describes seeing the UFO and the occupants consisting of alien bodies as well as a high-level meeting with Col. William Blanchard and General Roger Ramey, Commander of the Eighth Army Air Force.
Astronaut Scott Carpenter
"At no time, when the astronauts were in space were they alone: there was a constant surveillance by UFOs." ~ Astronaut Scott Carpenter - Carpenter photographed a UFO while in orbit on May 24, 1962. NASA still has not released the photograph to the public.
Buzz Aldrin on Fox News
"We just about could have said, 'Look, we see a UFO out the window going along with us.' You know what would have happened? The public would have gone crazy! We were smart enough to say, 'Where is the upper stage rocket? We think we might be looking at that out the window."
Colonel Joseph J. Bryan III
Founding member of the CIA's psychological warfare staff, advisor to NATO
"These UFOs are interplanetary devices systematically observing the Earth, either manned or under remote control, or both."
"Information on UFOs, including sighting reports, has been and is still being officially withheld."
President Jimmy Carter
Interview following his sighting of a UFO at Leary, Georgia - October 1969
"It was the darndest thing I've ever seen. It was big, it was very bright, it changed colors, and it was about the size of the moon. A red and green glowing orb radiated as it hurtled across the southwestern Georgia skies. We watched it for ten minutes, but none of us could figure out what it was. One thing's for sure: I'll never make fun of people who say they've seen unidentified flying objects in the sky."
Category
Science & Technology
Source Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/CitizenHearing
Website: http://www.citizenhearing.org/
Producer: Reuben Langdon
Testified knowing of 4 Alien races actively visiting Earth.
Former Special Assistant to the Executive Director of the CIA Victor Marchetti: How the CIA Views the UFO Phenomenon, Second Look, Vol. 1, No. 7, Washington, D.C. (5/1979) -- "We have, indeed, been contacted -- perhaps even visited -- by extraterrestrial beings, and the US government, in collusion with the other national powers of the Earth, is determined to keep this information from the general public."
Deputy Chief of the Royal Belgian Air Force Major-General Wilfred de Brouwer: "Postface" in SOBEPS' Vague d'OVNI sur la Belgique - Un Dossier Exceptionnel, Brussels: SOBEPS (1991) -- "In any case, the Air Force has arrived to the conclusion that a certain number of anomalous phenomena has been produced within Belgian airspace. The numerous testimonies of ground observations compiled in this [SOBEPS] book, reinforced by the reports of the night of March 30-31 [1990], have led us to face the hypothesis that a certain number of unauthorized aerial activities have taken place. Until now, not a single trace of aggressiveness has been signaled; military or civilian air traffic has not been perturbed nor threatened. We can therefore advance that the presumed activities do not constitute a direct menace."
"The day will come undoubtedly when the phenomenon will be observed with technological means of detection and collection that won't leave a single doubt about its origin. This should lift a part of the veil that has covered the mystery for a long time. A mystery that continues to the present. But it exists, it is real, and that in itself is an important conclusion."
Japan's Top Government Spokesperson, Chief Cabinet Secretary Nobutaka Machimura and Japan's Defense Minister, Shigeru Ishiba :
Beliefs and Concerns about UFOs - Japan's top government spokesperson: UFO's definitely exist. Chief Cabinet Secretary Nobutaka Machimura said to reporters on December 18, 2007, "I definitely believe they (UFOs) exist."
3 days later Japan's Defence Minister Shigeru Ishiba considers how his Self Defence Forces could respond to an attack by space aliens while adhering to limits on military action under the country's war-renouncing Constitution. "There are no grounds for us to deny there are unidentified flying objects and some lifeform that controls them", Ishiba said. "Few discussions have been held on what the legal grounds are" for military response. (Bloomberg) by Stuart Biggs
Sworn Affidavit by a Lieutenant Walter Haut concerning his experience of the 1947 UFO crash AT Roswell, NM:
Lt. Walter Haut, public relations officer at Roswell Army Air Field in 1947 left a sworn affidavit concerning his experience with the Roswell UFO crash in 1947. His sworn affidavit was only to be opened after his death. Haut died in December 2005 and sometime in June of 2007 the text contained therein had been released. He describes seeing the UFO and the occupants consisting of alien bodies as well as a high-level meeting with Col. William Blanchard and General Roger Ramey, Commander of the Eighth Army Air Force.
Astronaut Scott Carpenter
"At no time, when the astronauts were in space were they alone: there was a constant surveillance by UFOs." ~ Astronaut Scott Carpenter - Carpenter photographed a UFO while in orbit on May 24, 1962. NASA still has not released the photograph to the public.
Buzz Aldrin on Fox News
"We just about could have said, 'Look, we see a UFO out the window going along with us.' You know what would have happened? The public would have gone crazy! We were smart enough to say, 'Where is the upper stage rocket? We think we might be looking at that out the window."
Colonel Joseph J. Bryan III
Founding member of the CIA's psychological warfare staff, advisor to NATO
"These UFOs are interplanetary devices systematically observing the Earth, either manned or under remote control, or both."
"Information on UFOs, including sighting reports, has been and is still being officially withheld."
President Jimmy Carter
Interview following his sighting of a UFO at Leary, Georgia - October 1969
"It was the darndest thing I've ever seen. It was big, it was very bright, it changed colors, and it was about the size of the moon. A red and green glowing orb radiated as it hurtled across the southwestern Georgia skies. We watched it for ten minutes, but none of us could figure out what it was. One thing's for sure: I'll never make fun of people who say they've seen unidentified flying objects in the sky."
Category
Science & Technology
https://www.youtube.com/user/CitizenHearing
19 January 2014 11:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw9bD1VE1PA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw9bD1VE1PA
19 January 2014 11:13
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
@Sain aru, et tulnukad vaatavad algul sinu sisse ja siis näevad, kas sa oled puhta loll või vähe arukam inimene. Nende jaoks on inimesed küllaltki rumal rass.
19 January 2014 03:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
WHos?
18 January 2014 06:01
Margus Meigo commented on Gert Klaaser's photo.
wou "D
18 January 2014 05:52
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
Hmm.. :)
18 January 2014 05:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Philosophy Takeaway
How you guys think about him ?
:)]15 January 2014 18:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Philosophy Takeaway
How you guys think about him ?15 January 2014 18:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Philosophy Takeaway
And for these who need,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVrnTNpVe5Ihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVrnTNpVe5I
15 January 2014 18:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Philosophy Takeaway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP_uVUgT0wMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP_uVUgT0wM
15 January 2014 18:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Philosophy Takeaway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx813FI_8Cwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx813FI_8Cw
15 January 2014 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Philosophy Takeaway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwKw9wNSfx8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwKw9wNSfx8
15 January 2014 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Philosophy Takeaway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZP56m_YSOshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZP56m_YSOs
15 January 2014 18:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Philosophy Takeaway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWzJbQIhB3chttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWzJbQIhB3c
15 January 2014 18:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Philosophy Takeaway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVGtFSjOCcohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVGtFSjOCco
15 January 2014 18:17
Margus Meigo commented on Mosquito Hawk's post.
Group: The Philosophy Takeaway
but that, feel like that so often in past, specially
and its true as well, every time... as it might be15 January 2014 18:10
Margus Meigo commented on Mosquito Hawk's post.
Group: The Philosophy Takeaway
Its alright : )15 January 2014 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on Pille Heido's post.
Group: Eestlased Londonis. Estonians In London
Vaga soovin kuid ma elan squaterite komuunis tsoonis ilma resursita, seega jah...
Jaame siia Lets Doitit / Teeme Arat tegema vast15 January 2014 16:52
Margus Meigo commented on Don Nuki's post.
Group: Eestlased Londonis. Estonians In London
kuii kahtlast haalt teeb siis eriti roomus olukord ei ole, kuid jah,.. vahest on veel voimalus nagu Paris Nimi ytles linuxiga veel ligi paaseda...
et kui just viga usbi ketta parast ei tekkinud..
jama, et kettad siiani veel lahti olevarakeduse parast kokku jooksevad (et kui ei ejecti windoosist, flash kettastel seda vaja teha pole muidu)15 January 2014 16:51
Margus Meigo commented on Janeli Normet's post.
Group: Eestlased Londonis. Estonians In London
sama siin , sama siin :D15 January 2014 16:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHQt2ph5-yo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHQt2ph5-yo
15 January 2014 15:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Rahvuslased
(vana klassika)
eestlane joob praktiliselt kaks korda rohkem, kui on peetud mõistlikuks ühe rahvuse genofondi säilimise ja.. ja tervisliku.. siis.. elukeskkonna säilimise huvides
eestlased on joodik rahvas.. soome-ugri rahvas on joodik
kui me teeme tööd siis.. juua täis peaga !
autoroolis kindlasti.. juua täis peaga !
suuri plaane mõeldakse.. juua täis peaga !
korterid maha.. haahaa, siis on hea !
kas joogiga või joogita? selles on küsimus
kuid eestlastel mõtlemiseks puudub tõsidus
meil järjekordne aktsiis valmistamas muret
et paar pitsi viina tüütud mulalõuad suleks
liigne kainus lihtsalt huvi ei ärata
purukaine naisment mu autoaknasse käratab:
"nii, tervist! olete joonud? millal? kui palju?"
kallis emane sauaga sõber, veidi rahune.. ära karju!
sa häirisid mu kliimat, kui autoakna avasid
ma olen eestlane ja jälgin esiisa tavasid
pisikest salongi on ju täitnud etanool
mul vanaisa surnud, kuid isa siiamaani joob
ja ohtralt eeskuju jagavad tähtsad riigiisad
kel pudelid on suul nagu põrsastel nisad
teised jälle selle arvelt püüavad juurde hääli
keelata viinamüük, kuigi see plaan täitsa käärib
võitluses tuleb lüüa kõige valusamalt
võttes joodikult ta pudel, lööb kõikuma kõik talad
kuid volikogulastel Haapsalus on ikka näärid
toimub öine viinamüük ja vahel tõmmatakse käärid(?)
kui me teeme tööd siis.. juua täis peaga !
autoroolis kindlasti.. juua täis peaga !
suuri plaane mõeldakse.. juua täis peaga !
korterid maha.. haahaa, siis on hea !
kui on riigipüha siis.. juua täis peaga !
lipp läheb vardasse.. juua täis peaga !
presidendi vastuvõtul.. juua täis peaga !
korterid maha.. haahaa, siis on hea !
eestlane ei julge kaine peaga miskit teha
ka kaine peaga tal ei tule ühtki sõna suust
kaine peaga eesti mees ei julge tantsule naist viia
rääkimata autosõidust või ka hoopis miskist muust
viinapudel, baarikapp, see on püha oreool
nagu altar pühakojas, kõrvus helisemas koor
sea siis koju toon, hellalt hästi maitseb jõuluroog
vaadatud on teleteater ja siis pildituks end joon
jaanipäev, on jõulud need või pühad siis, mis iganes
stsenaarium, eespool mainitud, on tuttav meie ridades
ja nõnda pidu pidades soomlasi me sõimame
kuid joomahulluses neilt esikoha nõnda hõivame
ning kaifime kui Matti Nykänen on rahva ees
täis olles meile ka ju meeldib see soome mees
vastu klähvime neile, kes korrale meid kutsuvad
täis peaga tehtu silume papinutsuga
nii teevad ka ju eeskujud rahvajuhid osavad
isamaa, ninasarvikud ja ka oravad
kui muudmoodi ei saa hoopi elukeskkond
siis juues ennast uperkuuti hävib genofond
kõike teeme täis peaga ja ainult julgeme
orbiidilt ära kaldund, ise ka ei tea, kus kulgeme
ja sulgeme need suud, kes kritiseerida meid võtnud on vaevaks
klaasi tõstan suult, sest teid ma naeran
kui me teeme tööd siis.. juua täis peaga !
autoroolis kindlasti.. juua täis peaga !
suuri plaane mõeldakse.. juua täis peaga !
korterid maha.. haahaa, siis on hea !
kui on riigipüha siis.. juua täis peaga !
lipp läheb vardasse.. juua täis peaga !
presidendi vastuvõtul.. juua täis peaga !
korterid maha..
dzinnid ja siidrid ja viinad ja veinid
ja pitsid ja kannud ja klaasid on triikis
ja vindid on keeratud üle limiidi
ja biidiks saab koola ja räpiks bacardi
õlled ja jäkud ja konnid ja ixid
ja piiritus kupeldas valmis meis miski(?)
ja jäägitult joodud kõik alko ja hola!
räpiks bacardi ja biidiks saab koola
te olete ju täna joonud ja täiesti purjus inimene
no lood on niimoodi, et.. et.. õõ.. mis me oleme.. vahel.. kurat.. joond.. ma tunnistan üles, et ma olen tõesti täna
kui me teeme tööd siis.. juua täis peaga !
autoroolis kindlasti.. juua täis peaga !
suuri plaane mõeldakse.. juua täis peaga !
korterid maha.. haahaa, siis on hea !
kui on riigipüha siis.. juua täis peaga !
lipp läheb vardasse.. juua täis peaga !
presidendi vastuvõtul.. juua täis peaga !
korterid maha.. haahaa, siis on hea !
stress, pidev stress.. selle vastu ei saa mitte midagi teha.. ma olen ise viis korda Wismari haiglas olnud.. ja näete, siiamaani.. elan, aga mis elu see on?
jooge surnuks ennast kõik!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA6SsX9KWjw&list=PL472508485FD13169
Kurb, kuid vahest tosalugu
valge suhkur ka, samasse klassi laheb kui viin, kuid see juba suurem maailma probleemhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA6SsX9KWjw&list=PL472508485FD13169
15 January 2014 15:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kas sul on midagi mis teemasse laheb?
Motlen sellest yhe miks albumi koostada tulevikutulevikus,
nagu eelmiste listidega
Motlen sellest yhe miks albumi koostada tulevikutulevikus,
nagu eelmiste listidega
15 January 2014 14:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"Muusika on nagu vein mis muutub ajaga paremaks":)
Lüürika:
reff 1x:
nüüd proovin (proovin) ma unustada (unustada)
kõik selle halva ja uskuda ka
et kõik saab nüüd korda (korda)
ja on ka edaspidi jälle taas korras (korras)
salm 1:
tuletan nüüd meelde neid vanu aegu
on palju läbi elatud kuid mälestused ju ei aegu
tegelt kõik siiani on mul meeles kust tulin
ma ei unusta nii kergelt et noorena olin suli
pätt ja kaabakas siis kaasa arvatud
mu elu koosneski tol hetkel ainult halvast ju
olin noor ja loll kel polnud enda arvamust
ei osand ette teada mida keegi arvab must
seega läksingi siis vooluga ma kaasa
hullemini mind siis igakord see taas kaasa haaras
ei osanud ma õigel ajal lõpetada kordagi
nüüd tehtud halba ma eales vist ei korvagi
mul on siiralt kahju kõige üle mis oli
ning imestan ma siiani kuidas kord nii sinisilmne üldse olin
(ning imestan ma siiani kuidas kord nii sinisilmne üldse olin)
reff 2x:
nüüd proovin (proovin) ma unustada (unustada)
kõik selle halva ja uskuda ka
et kõik saab nüüd korda (korda)
ja on ka edaspidi jälle taas korras (korras)
salm 2:
ma seni ei tea kuidas kõik nii halvaks järsku pöördus
ei lähe ikka meelest kuigi aega nii palju juba möödund
ei saa kiita seda mis siis oli ei saa hõisata
sest liiga halb mälestus ja nüüd siis lõpuks mõistan ma
kui suure vea ma tegin kõik nüüd on muutund
olen kaua asjast eemal olla suutnud
ma ei tea täpselt kuidas kuid tean et olen muutund
ma ei tea mis teised must on kuulnud
kuid nüüd vannun et see vana mina on nüüd lõpuks surnud
ma tahan rohkem oma ellu positiivsust ning vähem kurbust
mu elu oli nagu testament ta jättis mulle midagi
ta jättis mulle mälestuse mis pole väärt mitte sittagi
see on justkui silt mis ripub kaelas mul nüüd
ja see jääb igaveseks minuga mu iseenda süül
reff 2x:
nüüd proovin (proovin) ma unustada (unustada)
kõik selle halva ja uskuda ka
et kõik saab nüüd korda (korda)
ja on ka edaspidi jälle taas korras (korras)
salm 3:
kokkuvõttes nii siis räägin ma siis nii siin
olen teinud vahel valesti ma tean seda niigi
kuid olen kõigest inimene mitte mingi robot
igaüks on elus teinud vigu nagu mina
olen palju halba üle elama pidand
ma ei teagi nüüd kohe kas see oli mulle õpetus
või oli miskit muud kuid õnneks on see kõik lõppenud
nüüd proovin ma unustada kõik selle halva
ja uskuda ka et kõik saab nüüd korda
ja on ka edaspidi jälle taas korras
kõik mis olnud on minevik mu jaoks
ning loodan et see tagasi ei tule ja mu elust igaveseks kaob
reff 2x:
nüüd proovin (proovin) ma unustada (unustada)
kõik selle halva ja uskuda ka
et kõik saab nüüd korda (korda)
ja on ka edaspidi jälle taas korras (korras)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF18v824-3o&list=PL8DAC4B4145D75E69
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF18v824-3o
Lüürika:
reff 1x:
nüüd proovin (proovin) ma unustada (unustada)
kõik selle halva ja uskuda ka
et kõik saab nüüd korda (korda)
ja on ka edaspidi jälle taas korras (korras)
salm 1:
tuletan nüüd meelde neid vanu aegu
on palju läbi elatud kuid mälestused ju ei aegu
tegelt kõik siiani on mul meeles kust tulin
ma ei unusta nii kergelt et noorena olin suli
pätt ja kaabakas siis kaasa arvatud
mu elu koosneski tol hetkel ainult halvast ju
olin noor ja loll kel polnud enda arvamust
ei osand ette teada mida keegi arvab must
seega läksingi siis vooluga ma kaasa
hullemini mind siis igakord see taas kaasa haaras
ei osanud ma õigel ajal lõpetada kordagi
nüüd tehtud halba ma eales vist ei korvagi
mul on siiralt kahju kõige üle mis oli
ning imestan ma siiani kuidas kord nii sinisilmne üldse olin
(ning imestan ma siiani kuidas kord nii sinisilmne üldse olin)
reff 2x:
nüüd proovin (proovin) ma unustada (unustada)
kõik selle halva ja uskuda ka
et kõik saab nüüd korda (korda)
ja on ka edaspidi jälle taas korras (korras)
salm 2:
ma seni ei tea kuidas kõik nii halvaks järsku pöördus
ei lähe ikka meelest kuigi aega nii palju juba möödund
ei saa kiita seda mis siis oli ei saa hõisata
sest liiga halb mälestus ja nüüd siis lõpuks mõistan ma
kui suure vea ma tegin kõik nüüd on muutund
olen kaua asjast eemal olla suutnud
ma ei tea täpselt kuidas kuid tean et olen muutund
ma ei tea mis teised must on kuulnud
kuid nüüd vannun et see vana mina on nüüd lõpuks surnud
ma tahan rohkem oma ellu positiivsust ning vähem kurbust
mu elu oli nagu testament ta jättis mulle midagi
ta jättis mulle mälestuse mis pole väärt mitte sittagi
see on justkui silt mis ripub kaelas mul nüüd
ja see jääb igaveseks minuga mu iseenda süül
reff 2x:
nüüd proovin (proovin) ma unustada (unustada)
kõik selle halva ja uskuda ka
et kõik saab nüüd korda (korda)
ja on ka edaspidi jälle taas korras (korras)
salm 3:
kokkuvõttes nii siis räägin ma siis nii siin
olen teinud vahel valesti ma tean seda niigi
kuid olen kõigest inimene mitte mingi robot
igaüks on elus teinud vigu nagu mina
olen palju halba üle elama pidand
ma ei teagi nüüd kohe kas see oli mulle õpetus
või oli miskit muud kuid õnneks on see kõik lõppenud
nüüd proovin ma unustada kõik selle halva
ja uskuda ka et kõik saab nüüd korda
ja on ka edaspidi jälle taas korras
kõik mis olnud on minevik mu jaoks
ning loodan et see tagasi ei tule ja mu elust igaveseks kaob
reff 2x:
nüüd proovin (proovin) ma unustada (unustada)
kõik selle halva ja uskuda ka
et kõik saab nüüd korda (korda)
ja on ka edaspidi jälle taas korras (korras)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF18v824-3o&list=PL8DAC4B4145D75E69
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF18v824-3o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF18v824-3o&list=PL8DAC4B4145D75E69
15 January 2014 14:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Miks kül vaatad taas mu poole
Miks küll püüad täita soove ahhh.....ahahhhh...
Veel ei tea kas uskuda sind saan
Veel ei tea kas lahkuda võid taas ahh..ahahhh..
Miks küll kõike teada minust soovid
Kas võin tõesti uskuda et hoolid ahh..ahahhh..
Loodan vaid et jäädgi minu juurde
Kahtlused ma visata võin tuulde ahhh..ahahhh..
Ref: Rahu minult röövid,unetuna möödub öö
Sinu pärast kallis enam ma ei joo ei söö
Mis küll juhtus minuga
Segi taevas,segi maa
Kallis kas ehks oskad vastata
Mis küll minuga teed?
Mis küll minuga teed?
Mis küll minuga teed?
Iga päev sa mulle lilli saadad
naeratades mulle otsa vaatad ahh....ahhahhhh
Miks sult kauneid sõnu veel ei kuule
Igatsevad sinu suudlust huuled ah...ahahhhh
Mõtlema mis ma selles kõigest peaksin
Ütle mulle tõtt et kindlalt teaksin ahh..ahahhhh
KAs sa tõesti kuulud mulle või olen ainult seiklus sulle ahh...ahahhhh...
Ref: Rahu minult röövid,unetuna möödub öö
Sinu pärast kallis enam ma ei joo ei söö
Mis küll juhtus minuga
Segi taevas,segi maa
Kallis kas ehks oskad vastata
Mis küll minuga teed?
Mis küll minuga teed?
Mis küll minuga teed?
Tänaval käin ringi üksikuna
Igatsedes sinu suudlust kuuma ahh..ahahhh
sullegi on raske ootus
saabub aeg mill täitub lootus ahh...ahahhh
Veel ei tea kas oled mulle loodud
või ehk kaob see tunne ehk sootuks ahh...ahahhh
Siiski tean et tahan võtta riski
Takistad meid ei suuda miski ahh...ahahh
Ref: Rahu minult röövid,unetuna möödub öö
Sinu pärast kallis enam ma ei joo ei söö
Mis küll juhtus minuga
Segi taevas,segi maa
Kallis kas ehks oskad vastata
Mis küll minuga teed?
Mis küll minuga teed?
Mis küll minuga teed?
Ref: Rahu minult röövid,unetuna möödub öö
Sinu pärast kallis enam ma ei joo ei söö
Mis küll juhtus minuga
Segi taevas,segi maa
Kallis kas ehks oskad vastata
Mis küll minuga teed?
Mis küll minuga teed?
Mis küll minuga teed?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AE6a87zyE8
Miks küll püüad täita soove ahhh.....ahahhhh...
Veel ei tea kas uskuda sind saan
Veel ei tea kas lahkuda võid taas ahh..ahahhh..
Miks küll kõike teada minust soovid
Kas võin tõesti uskuda et hoolid ahh..ahahhh..
Loodan vaid et jäädgi minu juurde
Kahtlused ma visata võin tuulde ahhh..ahahhh..
Ref: Rahu minult röövid,unetuna möödub öö
Sinu pärast kallis enam ma ei joo ei söö
Mis küll juhtus minuga
Segi taevas,segi maa
Kallis kas ehks oskad vastata
Mis küll minuga teed?
Mis küll minuga teed?
Mis küll minuga teed?
Iga päev sa mulle lilli saadad
naeratades mulle otsa vaatad ahh....ahhahhhh
Miks sult kauneid sõnu veel ei kuule
Igatsevad sinu suudlust huuled ah...ahahhhh
Mõtlema mis ma selles kõigest peaksin
Ütle mulle tõtt et kindlalt teaksin ahh..ahahhhh
KAs sa tõesti kuulud mulle või olen ainult seiklus sulle ahh...ahahhhh...
Ref: Rahu minult röövid,unetuna möödub öö
Sinu pärast kallis enam ma ei joo ei söö
Mis küll juhtus minuga
Segi taevas,segi maa
Kallis kas ehks oskad vastata
Mis küll minuga teed?
Mis küll minuga teed?
Mis küll minuga teed?
Tänaval käin ringi üksikuna
Igatsedes sinu suudlust kuuma ahh..ahahhh
sullegi on raske ootus
saabub aeg mill täitub lootus ahh...ahahhh
Veel ei tea kas oled mulle loodud
või ehk kaob see tunne ehk sootuks ahh...ahahhh
Siiski tean et tahan võtta riski
Takistad meid ei suuda miski ahh...ahahh
Ref: Rahu minult röövid,unetuna möödub öö
Sinu pärast kallis enam ma ei joo ei söö
Mis küll juhtus minuga
Segi taevas,segi maa
Kallis kas ehks oskad vastata
Mis küll minuga teed?
Mis küll minuga teed?
Mis küll minuga teed?
Ref: Rahu minult röövid,unetuna möödub öö
Sinu pärast kallis enam ma ei joo ei söö
Mis küll juhtus minuga
Segi taevas,segi maa
Kallis kas ehks oskad vastata
Mis küll minuga teed?
Mis küll minuga teed?
Mis küll minuga teed?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AE6a87zyE8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AE6a87zyE8
15 January 2014 14:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Võimatuna näida võib
lihtsalt tutvus ammu meil kahel
Ühel õhtul muutus kõik
Palju seekord selgks sai
Armastus on ammu me vahel
Tõde jalust nõrgaks lõi.
JeeijeeiJeeiJeei!
Ainult sinuga suudan unustada valu ma
Ainult sinuga iga raskust jõuan taluda
Ainult sinuga olen tõelist rõõmu tundnud ma
Ainult sinuga oma armastust ma soovin jagada.
Naeratust su huulil näen
Alati mind mõista sa suudad.
Soovid vaid mu juurde jää.
kordad: armastad vaid mind
Hallid päevad kirkamaks muudad
Teen mis võin, et näha sind
JeeijeeiJeeiJeei!
Ainult sinuga suudan unustada valu ma
Ainult sinuga iga raskust jõuan taluda
Ainult sinugaolen tõelist rõõmu tundnud ma
Ainult sinugaoma armastust ma soovin jagada
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0ug2CDHwAw
lihtsalt tutvus ammu meil kahel
Ühel õhtul muutus kõik
Palju seekord selgks sai
Armastus on ammu me vahel
Tõde jalust nõrgaks lõi.
JeeijeeiJeeiJeei!
Ainult sinuga suudan unustada valu ma
Ainult sinuga iga raskust jõuan taluda
Ainult sinuga olen tõelist rõõmu tundnud ma
Ainult sinuga oma armastust ma soovin jagada.
Naeratust su huulil näen
Alati mind mõista sa suudad.
Soovid vaid mu juurde jää.
kordad: armastad vaid mind
Hallid päevad kirkamaks muudad
Teen mis võin, et näha sind
JeeijeeiJeeiJeei!
Ainult sinuga suudan unustada valu ma
Ainult sinuga iga raskust jõuan taluda
Ainult sinugaolen tõelist rõõmu tundnud ma
Ainult sinugaoma armastust ma soovin jagada
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0ug2CDHwAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0ug2CDHwAw
15 January 2014 14:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Millal mu juurde jõuad
millal sind taas kord ma näen
oodata võin ju kaua
kui tean,et saabub see päev
nüüd sul julgen rohkem öelda
nüüd kui rohkem tean
Chorus Ja loodan vaid, et veelkord ristuksid me teed
sind näeksin ma veel
ning oodates sind tean, et kõik mis olnud hea
võib korduda veel
tagasi aeg pöördub pea
Hinges mul leegi läidad
koiduni kuulan su häält
kõik sinu soovid täidan
kui tean, et saabub see päev
nüüd sul julgen rohkem öelda
nüüd kui rohkem tean
Ja loodan vaid,et veelkord ristuksid me teed
sind näeksin ma veel
ning oodates sind tean,et kõik mis olnud hea
võib korduda veel
tagasi aeg pöördub pea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31IWqg3zyOo
millal sind taas kord ma näen
oodata võin ju kaua
kui tean,et saabub see päev
nüüd sul julgen rohkem öelda
nüüd kui rohkem tean
Chorus Ja loodan vaid, et veelkord ristuksid me teed
sind näeksin ma veel
ning oodates sind tean, et kõik mis olnud hea
võib korduda veel
tagasi aeg pöördub pea
Hinges mul leegi läidad
koiduni kuulan su häält
kõik sinu soovid täidan
kui tean, et saabub see päev
nüüd sul julgen rohkem öelda
nüüd kui rohkem tean
Ja loodan vaid,et veelkord ristuksid me teed
sind näeksin ma veel
ning oodates sind tean,et kõik mis olnud hea
võib korduda veel
tagasi aeg pöördub pea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31IWqg3zyOo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31IWqg3zyOo
15 January 2014 13:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
pla pla pla http://johnsonengine.net/
http://johnsonengine.net/
14 January 2014 22:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The invention is directed to the method of utilizing the unpaired electron spins in ferro magnetic and other materials as a source of magnetic fields for producing power without any electron flow as occurs in normal conductors, and to permanent magnet motors for utilizing this method to produce a power source. In the practice of the invention the unpaired electron spins occurring within permanent magnets are utilized to produce a motive power source solely through the superconducting characteristics of a permanent magnet and the magnetic flux created by the magnets are controlled and concentrated to orient the magnetic forces generated in such a manner to do useful continuous work, such as the displacement of a rotor with respect to a stator. The timing and orientation of magnetic forces at the rotor and stator components produced by permanent magnets to produce a motor is accomplished with the proper geometrical relationship of these components.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4151431.PN.&OS=PN/4151431&RS=PN/4151431
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4151431.PN.&OS=PN/4151431&RS=PN/4151431
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4151431.PN.&OS=PN/4151431&RS=PN/4151431
14 January 2014 21:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
A magnetic propulsion system including a plurality of specifically arranged permanent magnets and a magnetic vehicle propelled thereby along a path defined by the permanent magnets. The magnetic vehicle which is to be propelled includes a rigidly attached armature comprising several curved magnets. The propulsion system further includes two parallel walls of permanent magnets arranged so as to define the lateral sides of a vehicle path. Preferably, the walls are identical to one another except that the polarities of the magnets which define one wall are opposite from the polarities of the corresponding magnets in the opposite wall. A first wall, for example, includes a series of generally rectangular magnets, each magnet arranged with a North-to-South axis pointing longitudinally down the wall in the intended direction of vehicle travel. Each of the rectangular magnets is separated from the next successive rectangular magnet by a thinner magnet, which thinner magnet is arranged with its North-to-South axis pointing laterally toward the opposite wall and therefore perpendicular with respect to the North-to-South axis of the rectangular magnets. The opposite (or second) wall includes the same general arrangement of magnets, except that the North-to-South axis for each of the generally rectangular magnets is in a direction opposite from the direction of vehicle travel and the North-to-South axis of the thinner magnets points away from the first wall. In addition, the propulsion system includes several spin accelerators.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5402021.PN.&OS=PN/5402021&RS=PN/5402021
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5402021.PN.&OS=PN/5402021&RS=PN/5402021
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5402021.PN.&OS=PN/5402021&RS=PN/5402021
14 January 2014 21:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
yeah, have a little to say about that... but what that matters, as am man
14 January 2014 17:05
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
Looks good : )
14 January 2014 16:40
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
ma isegi ei tea mida sonade koosluis "Liigne googeldamine" tahendab
14 January 2014 16:25
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
muidugi teeb paremaks, kes seda hullu texti raakis, et ei tee :D
14 January 2014 15:38
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
googlesime miskeid draage tana ja siis need otsi tulemused tulid esireas, kohe te kakukesed meelde tulite :p
http://www.archbronconeumol.org/en/anti-factor-xa-activity-of-enoxaparin/articulo/13130867/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22302439
(srry, see oli esimene result, kuid see veel hullem http://arkitipintel.com/2008/01/14/rape-axe-the-anti-rape-condom/)
http://www.archbronconeumol.org/en/anti-factor-xa-activity-of-enoxaparin/articulo/13130867/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22302439
(srry, see oli esimene result, kuid see veel hullem http://arkitipintel.com/2008/01/14/rape-axe-the-anti-rape-condom/)
http://www.archbronconeumol.org/en/anti-factor-xa-activity-of-enoxaparin/articulo/13130867/
14 January 2014 14:47
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
Is all sorted now ?
14 January 2014 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
but bing hasd nice backround pictures... : )
14 January 2014 14:33
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
kui vaid teaks mida julgeks moelda ja yelda node vestluste kohtas kus peened inimesed raagivad oma kaalumisest, ja nagu fyysilisest kaalumisest maakera suhtes, hmm
whatever girls, whatever : ))
whatever girls, whatever : ))
14 January 2014 14:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
* Human hallucinogen research: guidelines for safety http://jop.sagepub.com/content/22/6/603.abstract
list:
*The Psycholytic Treatment of a Childhood Schizophrenic Girl
* Social and Medical Aspects of Illicit Use of LSD http://isp.sagepub.com/content/17/3/163.full.pdf+html
* Psychedelic Research: Obstacles and Values http://jhp.sagepub.com/content/15/3/5.full.pdf+html
http://jop.sagepub.com/content/22/6/603.abstract
* Current Status and Future Trends in Psychedelic (LSD) Research
* Acute, subacute and long-term subjective effects of psilocybin in healthy humans: a pooled analysis of experimental studies http://jop.sagepub.com/content/25/11/1434.abstract
* Similarities and Differences Between Religious Mysticism and Drug-Induced Experiences http://jhp.sagepub.com/content/3/2/146.full.pdf+html
http://jop.sagepub.com/search?fulltext=psychedelic&sortspec=date&submit=Submit&andorexactfulltext=phrase&src=selected&journal_set=spjop
"Dimethyltryptamine (DMT): Prevalence, user characteristics and abuse liability in a large global sample
first published on November 27, 2013 "
* Reviewing the ketamine model for schizophrenia
* Psychiatry’s next top model: cause for a re-think on drug models of psychosis and other psychiatric disorders
* Electrophysiological indices of response inhibition in human polydrug users
* Harms and benefits associated with psychoactive drugs: findings of an international survey of active drug users
*Deficient fear recognition in regular cocaine users is not attributable to elevated impulsivity or conduct disorder prior to cocaine use
*Generic legislation of new psychoactive drugs
http://jop.sagepub.com/search?fulltext=Hallucinogen&sortspec=date&submit=Submit&andorexactfulltext=phrase&src=selected&journal_set=spjop
135 found for Hallucinogen
*Psychiatric profiles of mothers who take Ecstasy/MDMA during pregnancy: Reduced depression 1 year after giving birth and quitting Ecstasy
*Neural correlates of performance monitoring in chronic cannabis users and cannabis-naïve controls
*Personality and the acute subjective effects of d-amphetamine in humans
And so much more!
If you need pas for download
then: Waffa
user: salajane
list:
*The Psycholytic Treatment of a Childhood Schizophrenic Girl
* Social and Medical Aspects of Illicit Use of LSD http://isp.sagepub.com/content/17/3/163.full.pdf+html
* Psychedelic Research: Obstacles and Values http://jhp.sagepub.com/content/15/3/5.full.pdf+html
http://jop.sagepub.com/content/22/6/603.abstract
* Current Status and Future Trends in Psychedelic (LSD) Research
* Acute, subacute and long-term subjective effects of psilocybin in healthy humans: a pooled analysis of experimental studies http://jop.sagepub.com/content/25/11/1434.abstract
* Similarities and Differences Between Religious Mysticism and Drug-Induced Experiences http://jhp.sagepub.com/content/3/2/146.full.pdf+html
http://jop.sagepub.com/search?fulltext=psychedelic&sortspec=date&submit=Submit&andorexactfulltext=phrase&src=selected&journal_set=spjop
"Dimethyltryptamine (DMT): Prevalence, user characteristics and abuse liability in a large global sample
first published on November 27, 2013 "
* Reviewing the ketamine model for schizophrenia
* Psychiatry’s next top model: cause for a re-think on drug models of psychosis and other psychiatric disorders
* Electrophysiological indices of response inhibition in human polydrug users
* Harms and benefits associated with psychoactive drugs: findings of an international survey of active drug users
*Deficient fear recognition in regular cocaine users is not attributable to elevated impulsivity or conduct disorder prior to cocaine use
*Generic legislation of new psychoactive drugs
http://jop.sagepub.com/search?fulltext=Hallucinogen&sortspec=date&submit=Submit&andorexactfulltext=phrase&src=selected&journal_set=spjop
135 found for Hallucinogen
*Psychiatric profiles of mothers who take Ecstasy/MDMA during pregnancy: Reduced depression 1 year after giving birth and quitting Ecstasy
*Neural correlates of performance monitoring in chronic cannabis users and cannabis-naïve controls
*Personality and the acute subjective effects of d-amphetamine in humans
And so much more!
If you need pas for download
then: Waffa
user: salajane
http://jop.sagepub.com/content/22/6/603.abstract
10 January 2014 18:43
Margus Meigo commented on Fernando Paternostro's post.
Group: Psychedelic Research
After moderators are sorted open us up again... as perhaps being open still good ?10 January 2014 18:16
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
good to know
10 January 2014 17:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own life event.
neljas aasta juba vaikselt... varsti saan hakkama :p
10 January 2014 16:33
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
the http://www.ays.co.uk/ ?
http://www.ays.co.uk/
10 January 2014 13:59
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
someone should really help google to translate "有人望子成龍逗號又唔諗下自己係蟲句號 " ..as some strange stuff coming out there...
(first gtran told it was spanish, maybe google has hangower)
(first gtran told it was spanish, maybe google has hangower)
10 January 2014 13:58
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's album.
Whats the cause ? :)
10 January 2014 13:53
Margus Meigo commented on eToro's photo.
bitcoin stock has rised ower 35 000 % from beginning... :p
But yea.. changing life, lets hope for good
But yea.. changing life, lets hope for good
10 January 2014 13:50
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's photo.
money is good
10 January 2014 13:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"... I wrote because I find it immoral that Apple, the wealthiest company in America, has not paid U.S. taxes on at least $74 billion over the past four years.."
"Some have said it would be "stupid" or even a "breach of fiduciary responsibility" for Apple not to exploit every possible loophole to minimize its taxes. However, would any reasonable person say it would be stupid for an individual not to cheat on a spouse or not to feed their children the cheapest food in the fastest way possible just because they can and doing so would not be illegal?
Is it not appropriate to be disappointed at someone engaged in ethically dubious, albeit legal, activities? "
" ...in Washington, substantive changes to the 78,000 page tax code seem like a pipedream, considering Congress can't even pass a budget or agree to uncontroversial policies like extending criminal background checks on all gun purchases...."
"..The above example illustrates how companies can be pressured into doing the right thing, even though the wrong thing might be legal and cheap"
"Our government is not always going to protect us from everything that may be harmful or close loopholes to make our tax system more equitable and fair.
That is just the way OUR system works.
But, that is where all of us come in.
As shareholders, consumers and citizens, we can call on companies to do what's right and act more justly--even when the law is silent."
"Some have said it would be "stupid" or even a "breach of fiduciary responsibility" for Apple not to exploit every possible loophole to minimize its taxes. However, would any reasonable person say it would be stupid for an individual not to cheat on a spouse or not to feed their children the cheapest food in the fastest way possible just because they can and doing so would not be illegal?
Is it not appropriate to be disappointed at someone engaged in ethically dubious, albeit legal, activities? "
" ...in Washington, substantive changes to the 78,000 page tax code seem like a pipedream, considering Congress can't even pass a budget or agree to uncontroversial policies like extending criminal background checks on all gun purchases...."
"..The above example illustrates how companies can be pressured into doing the right thing, even though the wrong thing might be legal and cheap"
"Our government is not always going to protect us from everything that may be harmful or close loopholes to make our tax system more equitable and fair.
That is just the way OUR system works.
But, that is where all of us come in.
As shareholders, consumers and citizens, we can call on companies to do what's right and act more justly--even when the law is silent."
6 January 2014 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
" review the operations of a principal manufacturing partner after nearly a dozen suicides by factory employees raised concerns about working conditions."
Apple said it recommended areas for improvement, including “better training of hotline staff and care center counselors and better monitoring to ensure effectiveness.”
Mr. Cook and the team also reviewed changes that Foxconn had put in place, which included “hiring a large number of psychological counselors, establishing a 24-hour care center and even attaching large nets to the factory buildings to prevent impulsive suicides,” Apple said in the report, which was released on Monday. “The investigation found that Foxconn’s response had definitely saved lives.”
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/15/apple-says-chinese-supplier-made-changes-after-suicides/?ref=foxconntechnology&_r=0
(am not making this up, unless we does)
In the report, Apple said it also discovered underage workers at various suppliers and terminated contracts with three facilities that didn’t change their policies promptly.
(yeah!)
It also said that it was working to ensure that minerals used in electronics manufacturing, like tantalum, tungsten and gold, do not come from war-torn regions.
(How..??)
Apple said it recommended areas for improvement, including “better training of hotline staff and care center counselors and better monitoring to ensure effectiveness.”
Mr. Cook and the team also reviewed changes that Foxconn had put in place, which included “hiring a large number of psychological counselors, establishing a 24-hour care center and even attaching large nets to the factory buildings to prevent impulsive suicides,” Apple said in the report, which was released on Monday. “The investigation found that Foxconn’s response had definitely saved lives.”
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/15/apple-says-chinese-supplier-made-changes-after-suicides/?ref=foxconntechnology&_r=0
(am not making this up, unless we does)
In the report, Apple said it also discovered underage workers at various suppliers and terminated contracts with three facilities that didn’t change their policies promptly.
(yeah!)
It also said that it was working to ensure that minerals used in electronics manufacturing, like tantalum, tungsten and gold, do not come from war-torn regions.
(How..??)
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/15/apple-says-chinese-supplier-made-changes-after-suicides/?ref=foxconntechnology&_r=0
6 January 2014 20:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
& siia otsa vennaskonna Insener garini hüperboloid kuulata oli suht r2suv millegi parast
6 January 2014 19:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ma olen õnnelik, et inimesed on nii ilusad ja head.
( Mu ema rääkis mulle, et Jeesus armastab meid.
Ja mida me vajame küll seda juba Jumal teab. )
Meile on antud tuhandeid võimalusi, sadu teid.
Ma olen õnnelik, et inimesed on nii ilusad ja head.
Ja on ju tore elada siin ime-imelises ilmas.
Kus lihtsalt ei saa teisiti kui rõõmustama peab.
Ma nutan ainult siis kui miskit on mul silmas.
Ma olen õnnelik, et inimesed on nii ilusad ja head.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ioVM0W_ips (sad irony)
lihtsalt ei saa teisiti kui rõõmustama peab.....
( Mu ema rääkis mulle, et Jeesus armastab meid.
Ja mida me vajame küll seda juba Jumal teab. )
Meile on antud tuhandeid võimalusi, sadu teid.
Ma olen õnnelik, et inimesed on nii ilusad ja head.
Ja on ju tore elada siin ime-imelises ilmas.
Kus lihtsalt ei saa teisiti kui rõõmustama peab.
Ma nutan ainult siis kui miskit on mul silmas.
Ma olen õnnelik, et inimesed on nii ilusad ja head.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ioVM0W_ips (sad irony)
lihtsalt ei saa teisiti kui rõõmustama peab.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ioVM0W_ips
6 January 2014 19:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Keegi on truu ja samas ei ole
Keegi on armund ja lõpus on surnud
Keegi loeb luuletust, keegi teeb raha
Naised on kaunid kuid mehed ei taha
Nad ootavad sõda ja otsivad mõtet
Elule endale kõigile katet
Naised on kaunid kuid mehed ei taha
Enne kui pole neid tapetud maha
---
Talv on sadanud lumega maha
Rida rea järel raamatut loen
Sadu ainult on akende taga
Kaminas tuli ja väljas on lumi
Talv on sadanud lumega maha
Rea järel rida raamatut loen
Sadu ainult on akende taga
Kaminas tuli ja õues on lumi
Rahu ainult rahu, sadu ainult sadu
Rahu ainult rahu, sadu ainult sadu
Villases kampsunis tüdruk on kodus
Ootab mu kõnet kassiga süles
Väljas on lumi ja siin on nii õdus
Tõusta ei taha tõesti ma üles
Talv on sadanud lumega maha
Rea järel rida raamatut loed
Sadu ainult on akende taga
Kaminas tuli ja õues on lumi
Rahu ainult rahu, sadu ainult sadu
Rahu ainult rahu, sadu ainult sadu
Keegi on truu ja samas ei ole
Keegi on armund ja lõpus on surnud
Keegi loeb luuletust, keegi teeb raha
Naised on kaunid kuid mehed ei taha
Nad ootavad sõda ja otsivad mõtet
Elule endale kõigile katet
Naised on kaunid kuid mehed ei taha
Enne kui pole neid tapetud maha
Rahu ainult rahu, sadu ainult sadu
Rahu ainult rahu, sadu ainult sadu
Rahu ainult rahu, sadu ainult sadu
Rahu ainult rahu, sadu ainult sadu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnCAjMELpic
Rahu.. ainult Rahu... Miks mehed ei taha ?
Keegi on armund ja lõpus on surnud
Keegi loeb luuletust, keegi teeb raha
Naised on kaunid kuid mehed ei taha
Nad ootavad sõda ja otsivad mõtet
Elule endale kõigile katet
Naised on kaunid kuid mehed ei taha
Enne kui pole neid tapetud maha
---
Talv on sadanud lumega maha
Rida rea järel raamatut loen
Sadu ainult on akende taga
Kaminas tuli ja väljas on lumi
Talv on sadanud lumega maha
Rea järel rida raamatut loen
Sadu ainult on akende taga
Kaminas tuli ja õues on lumi
Rahu ainult rahu, sadu ainult sadu
Rahu ainult rahu, sadu ainult sadu
Villases kampsunis tüdruk on kodus
Ootab mu kõnet kassiga süles
Väljas on lumi ja siin on nii õdus
Tõusta ei taha tõesti ma üles
Talv on sadanud lumega maha
Rea järel rida raamatut loed
Sadu ainult on akende taga
Kaminas tuli ja õues on lumi
Rahu ainult rahu, sadu ainult sadu
Rahu ainult rahu, sadu ainult sadu
Keegi on truu ja samas ei ole
Keegi on armund ja lõpus on surnud
Keegi loeb luuletust, keegi teeb raha
Naised on kaunid kuid mehed ei taha
Nad ootavad sõda ja otsivad mõtet
Elule endale kõigile katet
Naised on kaunid kuid mehed ei taha
Enne kui pole neid tapetud maha
Rahu ainult rahu, sadu ainult sadu
Rahu ainult rahu, sadu ainult sadu
Rahu ainult rahu, sadu ainult sadu
Rahu ainult rahu, sadu ainult sadu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnCAjMELpic
Rahu.. ainult Rahu... Miks mehed ei taha ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnCAjMELpic
6 January 2014 19:31
Margus Meigo commented on Levin Lo's link.
still think gay is a bit dodgy at least as a spiritual image, have not worked this one out on LSD jet
6 January 2014 19:12
Margus Meigo commented on Levin Lo's link.
lol
6 January 2014 19:12
Margus Meigo commented on Tobias Anand Schneider's post.
Greets Tobias, well.. world is still ticking... : )
6 January 2014 18:53
Margus Meigo commented on Tobias Anand Schneider's photo.
here She comes :D
6 January 2014 18:52
Margus Meigo commented on Jacqueline Bolaños Vargas's photo.
here where it all happened :D
6 January 2014 18:35
Margus Meigo commented on Poppy Walton's photo.
How can that be ..
6 January 2014 18:28
Margus Meigo commented on Moira Paulse's post.
Great thanks Moira , wish me could recive all that as well... :)
Great new years to your family as well, you still in my heart
Great new years to your family as well, you still in my heart
2 January 2014 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
vaga arrrrgghh!
kuid nagu yeah, hea aasta ikka heaga oleks pidanud hakkama, kuid nagu aegajalt ikka tuleb meeltes hoida vast, et see meeailm jooksutatud miskite muude kummaliste reeglite labi..
kuid nagu yeah, hea aasta ikka heaga oleks pidanud hakkama, kuid nagu aegajalt ikka tuleb meeltes hoida vast, et see meeailm jooksutatud miskite muude kummaliste reeglite labi..
2 January 2014 21:03
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
nu mul ka periood praegu kus asjad kogu maailmas otsapidi me enda vastu keeratud on
2 January 2014 21:02
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
Tanud odeke!
2 January 2014 20:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
my family is also so awesame that even in Estonia language would run out of words to try to expresslings these feelings and history meanings
26 December 2013 04:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sydameke
26 December 2013 03:58
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4FaDMak-TQ come on to Us, does any of we have idea who is in connected here, Earth
Wellcome to Estonia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayahuasca#Warnings
margus@LetsDoItWorld.Org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHISTsiR9qc
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=1845
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=201070
Wellcome to Estonia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayahuasca#Warnings
margus@LetsDoItWorld.Org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHISTsiR9qc
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=1845
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=201070
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4FaDMak-TQ
26 December 2013 03:14
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
who is this wanker ?
http://abovetopsecret.com.samuru.com/?q=lord+ra-el
http://abovetopsecret.com.samuru.com/?q=lord+ra-el
http://abovetopsecret.com.samuru.com/?q=lord+ra-el
26 December 2013 02:49
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
No one has asked me
26 December 2013 02:31
Margus Meigo commented on Anti Teraväe's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Lyhidalt, kui on keegi kes meid siin hoiab voi meile midagi teeb, suures plaanis,
siis piibel ja selle opetused (koos mitme muu religiooniga,vast)
on pikk keskmine sorm Nende saavutuste kohale joudmiseks.
et nagu acient wikileaks mis meelega inimoistusele kohanemiselt kirja pandi vanade tarkade poolt selliselt, et vaikselt eri kohtadepealt targemaks saame, kuni aru saame.. ja siis ehk saame midagi tha mida vaja, moistes, Inimliiki..
Ezekielis kirjeldatu naiteks kasvoi... ja meelega siin seal sisse pandud jupid mis kogu asja teise perspektiivi paneb kui loed korgema teadvuse labi, mitte aint nagu juturaamatut nagu meie ajalehe yhiskonnal kombeks on ennast lugedes targaks upitada ja siis arvamust omada asjade kohta mille kanna karva otsa suurust me isegi ei ole valmis visualizeerima veel mitte..
ei noh, Hinge laheb see teema, hea teema noh :p23 December 2013 16:05
Margus Meigo commented on Anti Teraväe's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
et lugeda ikka soojalt soovitaks toda versiooni eesti piiblist, soome piibliseltsilt, mis tais vanaema tarku sonu ja reference mis salm millega yhendatud on ja millega see omakorda yhendatud on voi millest tuletatud
(kuid yeah, tolles tosiselt targemad sonastused kui mitmed ing keelse voi uue aja eesti tolked)
kuid see tekst lihtsalt tava ollelaua seltusest... asjad veelgi palju huvitavamad ja mystilisemad tegelt
Yks teine tulnuka religioon muidu teadis raakida oma profeti kaudu, et Jessus ja muhameed on samalt planeedilt ja Krishna avatar korgemast planeedi systeemist toomas omakorda korgemat teadvust mida vaja edasi arenemiseks neile kes siin nii kaugele joudnud
ja siis kui votta arvesse veel igast psyhedeelikumide kasutajad ja ajurabanduste hoogude all kannatajad kellel suht sarnased sonumid tulevad tihti pahe kui need mis erinevasse kirjandusse ammu kirjutatud
Siin natuke linke kah, mis neti inimesed arvavad..
http://www.halexandria.org/dward185.htm
http://rapgenius.com/Diabolic-frontlines-lyrics#note-136971
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/anunnaki/anu_13a.htm
Vot sellest koigest voiks kohe uue toopicu teha kuid pole veel moelnud kuidas hasti siia sobiks selliselt, et teema pysima jaaks oiges suunas - sest siin vaielda ju midagi eriti ei saa, DMT kasutajd ka vannuvad, et seda ja teist neile raagiti...
Kuid seda mida paris noiad ja shmaanid raagivad... kuidas seda eraldada ja koguda asjalikult ja omakorda panna peegel pilti olemasoleva infodega? ..eks vast laheme ka kohtadesse mida kysime ja soovime..
..vut selle kallal motlen ka..
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Muie,
seal kodukal raagitakse ka:
All evidence in fact points that the literal meaning of “ilu” as “tall guys” was in fact the intended meaning. The ilu were clearly anthropomorphic beings much taller than ordinary humans. In every depiction where ilu and ordinary people are shown side by side the ilu are much taller. From both ancient evidence and some modern evidence to be discussed, I have estimated the height of the ilu as 4.5 m, or 14 to 15 ft.
But who were these ilu?
How did such tall people come into being?
Were they members of a now extinct evolutionary branch of the human species, the supposed Homo Gigantus?
Were they genetic aberrations?...
- noh, me siinkohal voiksime ka anda suts suure tolla ja muud infot... ja kui Ilusad oleme.. oma Ilusakeelega.. :)http://www.halexandria.org/dward185.htm
23 December 2013 15:59
Margus Meigo commented on Anti Teraväe's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
muidugi pohi asi mida me paganad unustame, et Jeesus kui selline,
kui aru saada pariselt kellest raakida pyytakse,
oli enne Abrahami, ammu olemas
ja kui ta sellest soost mida seal kirjeldatse kui Anunakke voi Nephiilasi - siis node eluiga meie aja jargi olevat folkloori pohjal yle 500 000 aasta ... kuid lugu proovib selgeks teha, et tegu palju asjalikuma tegelasega kes valja moelnud kuidas ajast ja maisest elust valjaspool olla, ja kes ammu enne ilma olemas oli kui meie siin siblasime.
.. ja sealt edasi minnes, kuna koik olulisemad nurgakivid on siis node tulnarite poolt ammu ette paika pandud mida siis eri liiki inimesed oma vastavale tasemele ylesehitama hakkasid.. et seega need paevad ja samal paeval veel mitu eri tahtsat pyha yle maailma veel vanematest usundidtest kui ristiusklus - mis on siis pohimotleiselt uus Teadmik sellest mida nouti inimeste endi parast ja kuidas... ja mida nouti hiljem meilt kui liigilt ja mis suguste mentaliteetidega kuningaid ja asja ajajaid me ajaloost taga pool olemas oli. Lisaks koige vajaliku raamatuna see juured lykkab paljudesse muudesse kohtadesse ka, olenevalt inimese disainist ja plaanist ja huvidest... ning kuidas ta oma siinsete tegudega ennast ajas ette voi taha poole liigutab
mitu osa teksti seal peaks siis olema otse pohi sourcelt kes muud jumalad ja eluvormid loonud on millega me siin kokku saame puutuda, jessus ise siis oli puhtalt elav lihane tegelane kuni mingi ajani kes oma keha lasi suurtemate voimude poolt hingeliselt yle votta (siis kui vaga suurelt raakis) - kuid samal ajal, ta ise ikke tuletab meelde, et siin suuremaid joude kui tema ise.
Kirikuehitise osas ytleb ka, et kui me oma kultustes kinni ja tahame pyhamut ehitada, siis ei tohi kivasi metalliga katki teha, sest see kivi on roojane siis... nuh, huvitav ei tea kui palju neid paris paris kirikuid meil siin un...23 December 2013 15:47
Margus Meigo commented on Anti Teraväe's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
Ei saa artiklile ligi siin arvutis.. kuid et nagu kui mitu tuhat aastat tagasi meil tol ajal siis t2hti t2histati ?23 December 2013 15:06
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's link.
nuh, umbes sellise maja majandaks endile ka : )
23 December 2013 15:02
Margus Meigo commented on Tara Bell's post.
yes you can write, for sure
23 December 2013 15:00
Margus Meigo commented on Airi Vipulkumar Kansar's post.
Group: Vandenöuteooria/Conspiracy theory
Nujah, kuid samas nood mustlased ikka rohkem inimesed tunduvad kui enamus inimesi keda linnas kohtad...
motlesin sellele just kui kena, kui ykskord yx neist trammi tuli, noor tydrik, ja kenasti laulu mangis kitarriga...
kogu kole logisev ja hall tramm muuutus ilusaks ja meeldejaavaks kogemuseks23 December 2013 14:58
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Salamone's post.
Group: The Philosophy Takeaway
am anoyed by many bub owners acting like robots and not letting me to use toilet,
restrict assess to water (basic human right)
and many other nifty people piss me off as well a lots.. ignoring freezing seniors on street etc
must start to call police on them
strange enough, story comes to mind.. one time when one law keeper who wanted to pick up the girl whit who we was, refused to give away or sip of hes beer to one homeless guy who asked nicely (dude could get loads of more, lawyer for sake! ),, he really needed one, so i bite him from hand that one would release beer and strange enough, he waned to call police on me, even thought he was major nuisance or annoyance to begin with - i mean, why else would one man bite other...23 December 2013 14:48
Margus Meigo commented on Asse Sauga's post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_3Pp_yGq4
lol 7:30.. "So its New World Order.."http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_3Pp_yGq4
23 December 2013 13:48
Margus Meigo commented on Asse Sauga's post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
https://blockchain.info/wallet/newhttps://blockchain.info/wallet/new
23 December 2013 13:28
Margus Meigo commented on Asse Sauga's post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
...et kui otseseid kysimusi on .. huvitavaid, siis antke teada
ta ise praegu igast pakkumistega yle kylvatud kuid keskendub komuunide yles ehitamisele ja Maa elule
(onneks(:)23 December 2013 13:27
Margus Meigo commented on Asse Sauga's post.
Group: Krüptoraha Eesti grupp
Neil paris hasti laks, Saan Amiriga kokku homme joula peo jaoks
Mitmed teised tuttavad naod seal ka .. :)23 December 2013 13:26
Margus Meigo commented on Oomas Alt's post.
viies mu lemmik, teine ka hea
23 December 2013 12:31
Margus Meigo commented on David Farbman's photo.
This is just wrong to laugh about
But yeah... Cows are holy..
holy.. wtf this photo guy me hopes did not go after camera first before helping cow...
well, can you imagine Karma on that? i bet we can we sick minded people
but yeah, we do feel like this uder this world we make for ourselves.. unless you one of the people who ..
But yeah... Cows are holy..
holy.. wtf this photo guy me hopes did not go after camera first before helping cow...
well, can you imagine Karma on that? i bet we can we sick minded people
but yeah, we do feel like this uder this world we make for ourselves.. unless you one of the people who ..
23 December 2013 12:28
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
then again, its a Bull doing the hard job so..
23 December 2013 12:21
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's post.
will want to see next to picture there Hindu explaining "Cows are holy.."
23 December 2013 12:20
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
few more
23 December 2013 12:19
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
lol, neeh
there is many more to go
there is many more to go
23 December 2013 12:16
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
maybe
23 December 2013 12:15
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
maybe
20 December 2013 15:20
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
... well.. she was keep hoping there must be some flux in sistem.. they cant be all like that... as smart women does not stay to much whit guy who is "same" ... but most often ones cares to much about man so they keep living with them on hopes of change.. that are often long to come...
so they change.. (and then guys blame them and leave... and she looks again...)
so they change.. (and then guys blame them and leave... and she looks again...)
20 December 2013 15:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
So lets go ower these figures again, will not get first well computed in brain:
"To give you an idea, the six largest international oil companies are responsible for around 3% of the world’s total output. ExxonMobil’s oil reserves account for less than 1% of the world’s total..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Aramco
Revenue US$ 400 billion / $182
Founded 1933 (as California-Arabian Standard Oil Co.)
Fackt: Saudi Aramco's value has been estimated at up to US$10 trillion in the Financial Times, making it the world's most valuable company
Fackt: Saudi Aramco operates the world's largest single hydrocarbon network, the Master Gas System. Its yearly production is 3.479 billion barrels (553,100,000 m3)
Fackt (kind of): Saudi Aramco has both the largest proven crude oil reserves, at more than 260 billion barrels (4.1×1010 m3), and largest daily oil production 3.479 billion barrels (553,100,000 m3) / 12.0 million barrels per day
National Iranian Oil Company
Revenue US$ 110 billion (2012)
Total assets US$ 200 billion (2012)
Founded 1948
2005
Recoverable liquid hydrocarbon reserves in early 2005, 136.99 billion barrels (21.780 km3) 10% of world's total.
Recoverable gas reserves in early 2005, 28.17×1012 m3 (15% of world's total).
Current NIOC production capacities include over 4 million barrels (640×103 m3) of crude oil and in excess of 500 million cubic meters of natural gas per day
Iran’s cumulative oil production has reached to 61 billion barrels (9.7×109 m3) by the end of 2007
In May 1901, William Knox D'Arcy was granted a concession by the Shah of Iran to search for oil, which he discovered in May 1908.[8] This was the first commercially significant find in the Middle Eas
Qatar Petroleum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_Petroleum
Revenue US$ 51.6 billion (2011)
Profit US$ 14.9 billion (2011)
Total assets US$ 107.8 billion (2011
Together, revenues from oil and natural gas amount to 60 percent of the country’s GDP
The total oil production from Al Shaheen is planned to be gradually increased from 240,000 bbl/d (38,000 m3/d) at the beginning of 2006 to 525,000 bbl/d (83,500 m3/d) by the end of 2009.[2] When completed, Qatar would have more than 1,100,000 bbl/d (170,000 m3/d) in crude production capacity.
"To give you an idea, the six largest international oil companies are responsible for around 3% of the world’s total output. ExxonMobil’s oil reserves account for less than 1% of the world’s total..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Aramco
Revenue US$ 400 billion / $182
Founded 1933 (as California-Arabian Standard Oil Co.)
Fackt: Saudi Aramco's value has been estimated at up to US$10 trillion in the Financial Times, making it the world's most valuable company
Fackt: Saudi Aramco operates the world's largest single hydrocarbon network, the Master Gas System. Its yearly production is 3.479 billion barrels (553,100,000 m3)
Fackt (kind of): Saudi Aramco has both the largest proven crude oil reserves, at more than 260 billion barrels (4.1×1010 m3), and largest daily oil production 3.479 billion barrels (553,100,000 m3) / 12.0 million barrels per day
National Iranian Oil Company
Revenue US$ 110 billion (2012)
Total assets US$ 200 billion (2012)
Founded 1948
2005
Recoverable liquid hydrocarbon reserves in early 2005, 136.99 billion barrels (21.780 km3) 10% of world's total.
Recoverable gas reserves in early 2005, 28.17×1012 m3 (15% of world's total).
Current NIOC production capacities include over 4 million barrels (640×103 m3) of crude oil and in excess of 500 million cubic meters of natural gas per day
Iran’s cumulative oil production has reached to 61 billion barrels (9.7×109 m3) by the end of 2007
In May 1901, William Knox D'Arcy was granted a concession by the Shah of Iran to search for oil, which he discovered in May 1908.[8] This was the first commercially significant find in the Middle Eas
Qatar Petroleum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_Petroleum
Revenue US$ 51.6 billion (2011)
Profit US$ 14.9 billion (2011)
Total assets US$ 107.8 billion (2011
Together, revenues from oil and natural gas amount to 60 percent of the country’s GDP
The total oil production from Al Shaheen is planned to be gradually increased from 240,000 bbl/d (38,000 m3/d) at the beginning of 2006 to 525,000 bbl/d (83,500 m3/d) by the end of 2009.[2] When completed, Qatar would have more than 1,100,000 bbl/d (170,000 m3/d) in crude production capacity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Aramco
18 December 2013 15:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Obviously in the oil and gas industry the following companies are relative minnows compared to huge state-owned energy giants like Saudi Aramco, National Iranian Oil Company (NIOC) and Qatar Petroleum. To give you an idea, the six largest international oil companies are responsible for around 3% of the world’s total output. ExxonMobil’s oil reserves account for less than 1% of the world’s total.
http://www.arabianoilandgas.com/article-5320-worlds-10-largest-publicly-traded-oil-companies/1/print/
However it gives you a good idea of the financial might of the Saudi Aramcos of this world when despite the relative small scale of the IOCs oil production, four oil and gas companies are in the actual Forbes top ten (with an honourable mention going to Total at number 11).
Royal Dutch Shell
ExxonMobil
BP
Chevron
Total
Gazsprom
PetroChina
ENI
Petrobras-Petróleo Brasil
Sinopec-China Petroleum
1. (2) Royal Dutch Shell (Netherlands)
Sales: 458.36 Profits: 26.28 Assets: 278.44 Market value: 135.10
Fact: When collecting shells by the Caspian Sea, Marcus Samuel, the son of the company’s founder, had the idea to start importing lamp oil from the area back to the UK. To do this he needed a ship so he commissioned the world’s first specially built oil tanker – the Murex. The word is Latin for a type of snail shell.
2. (4) ExxonMobil (United States)
Sales: 425.70 Profits: 45.22 Assets: 228.05 Market value: 335.54
Fact: Both Exxon and Mobil are direct descendents of the early oil giant Standard Oil. When the company was forced to split into smaller entities Jersey Standard was the initial name of Exxon and Standard Oil Company of New York (Socony) was the initial name of Mobil. If Standard Oil was still trading today then it would quite easily be worth in excess of $1 trillion.
3. (5) BP (United Kingdom)
Sales: 361.14 Profits: 21.16 Assets: 228.24 Market value: 119.70
Fact: During the company’s privatisation in the 1980s, the Kuwaiti government tried to buy a controlling stake in the company. The move was blocked after major opposition in the UK’s parliament.
4. (9) Chevron (United States)
Sales: 255.11 Profits: 23.93 Assets: 161.17 Market value: 121.70
Fact: When the company was known as Standard Oil of California, a subsidiary, California-Arabian Standard Oil Company, was responsible for finding the world’s largest oilfield, the Ghawar field in Saudi Arabia. The subsidiary evolved into the Arabian American Oil Company (Aramco) and was eventually entirely owned by Saudi Arabia and was renamed Saudi Aramco. Saudi Aramco is the largest oil company of any kind in the world and has a staggering 25% of the world's oil reserves at its disposal.
5. (11) Total (France)
Sales: 223.15 Profits: 14.74 Assets: 164.66 Market value: 112.90
Fact: In typical French style, the company was founded after a partnership offer from Royal Dutch Shell was abruptly rejected by the French government after World War I.
6. (13) Gazprom (Russia)
Sales: 97.29 Profits: 26.78 Assets: 276.81 Market value: 74.55
Fact 1: The European Union gets around 25% of its gas from the company.
Fact 2: The company sponsors two football teams – Zenit St Petersburg in Russia and Schalke 04 in Germany.
7. (14) PetroChina (China)
Sales: 114.32 Profits: 19.94 Assets: 145.14 Market value: 270.56
Fact: The market value of PetroChina tripled when it first appeared on the Shanghai index. Thus the company became the first in history to have market capitalisation of one trillion US dollars.
8. (18) ENI (Italy)
Sales: 158.32 Profits: 12.91 Assets: 278.44 Market value: 135.10
Fact: AGIP, a subsidiary of Eni managed to break the monopoly of the major oil companies in the 1950s by offering the producer countries a contract where they received a share of the profits.
9 (25) Petrobras-Petróleo Brasil (Brazil)
Sales: 92.08 Profits: 14.12 Assets: 120.68 Market value: 110.97
Fact 1: To continue the football sponsorship theme, Petrobras sponsor Flamengo in Brazil and River Plate in Argentina. They also sponsor the Williams Formula 1 team and numerous arts and cultural projects.
Fact 2: Petrobras is the main supporter of whale conservation and research through the Brazilian Right Whale Project and the Instituto Baleia Jubarte (Brazilian Humpback Whale Institute).
10 (33) Sinopec-China Petroleum (China)
Sales: 154.28 Profits: 7.43 Assets: 100.41 Market value: 93.50
Fact: The company opened the first drive-through petrol station and fast-food restaurant in China in 2007. Hopefully the restaurant enforces a strict no-smoking policy.
http://www.arabianoilandgas.com/article-5320-worlds-10-largest-publicly-traded-oil-companies/1/print/
However it gives you a good idea of the financial might of the Saudi Aramcos of this world when despite the relative small scale of the IOCs oil production, four oil and gas companies are in the actual Forbes top ten (with an honourable mention going to Total at number 11).
Royal Dutch Shell
ExxonMobil
BP
Chevron
Total
Gazsprom
PetroChina
ENI
Petrobras-Petróleo Brasil
Sinopec-China Petroleum
1. (2) Royal Dutch Shell (Netherlands)
Sales: 458.36 Profits: 26.28 Assets: 278.44 Market value: 135.10
Fact: When collecting shells by the Caspian Sea, Marcus Samuel, the son of the company’s founder, had the idea to start importing lamp oil from the area back to the UK. To do this he needed a ship so he commissioned the world’s first specially built oil tanker – the Murex. The word is Latin for a type of snail shell.
2. (4) ExxonMobil (United States)
Sales: 425.70 Profits: 45.22 Assets: 228.05 Market value: 335.54
Fact: Both Exxon and Mobil are direct descendents of the early oil giant Standard Oil. When the company was forced to split into smaller entities Jersey Standard was the initial name of Exxon and Standard Oil Company of New York (Socony) was the initial name of Mobil. If Standard Oil was still trading today then it would quite easily be worth in excess of $1 trillion.
3. (5) BP (United Kingdom)
Sales: 361.14 Profits: 21.16 Assets: 228.24 Market value: 119.70
Fact: During the company’s privatisation in the 1980s, the Kuwaiti government tried to buy a controlling stake in the company. The move was blocked after major opposition in the UK’s parliament.
4. (9) Chevron (United States)
Sales: 255.11 Profits: 23.93 Assets: 161.17 Market value: 121.70
Fact: When the company was known as Standard Oil of California, a subsidiary, California-Arabian Standard Oil Company, was responsible for finding the world’s largest oilfield, the Ghawar field in Saudi Arabia. The subsidiary evolved into the Arabian American Oil Company (Aramco) and was eventually entirely owned by Saudi Arabia and was renamed Saudi Aramco. Saudi Aramco is the largest oil company of any kind in the world and has a staggering 25% of the world's oil reserves at its disposal.
5. (11) Total (France)
Sales: 223.15 Profits: 14.74 Assets: 164.66 Market value: 112.90
Fact: In typical French style, the company was founded after a partnership offer from Royal Dutch Shell was abruptly rejected by the French government after World War I.
6. (13) Gazprom (Russia)
Sales: 97.29 Profits: 26.78 Assets: 276.81 Market value: 74.55
Fact 1: The European Union gets around 25% of its gas from the company.
Fact 2: The company sponsors two football teams – Zenit St Petersburg in Russia and Schalke 04 in Germany.
7. (14) PetroChina (China)
Sales: 114.32 Profits: 19.94 Assets: 145.14 Market value: 270.56
Fact: The market value of PetroChina tripled when it first appeared on the Shanghai index. Thus the company became the first in history to have market capitalisation of one trillion US dollars.
8. (18) ENI (Italy)
Sales: 158.32 Profits: 12.91 Assets: 278.44 Market value: 135.10
Fact: AGIP, a subsidiary of Eni managed to break the monopoly of the major oil companies in the 1950s by offering the producer countries a contract where they received a share of the profits.
9 (25) Petrobras-Petróleo Brasil (Brazil)
Sales: 92.08 Profits: 14.12 Assets: 120.68 Market value: 110.97
Fact 1: To continue the football sponsorship theme, Petrobras sponsor Flamengo in Brazil and River Plate in Argentina. They also sponsor the Williams Formula 1 team and numerous arts and cultural projects.
Fact 2: Petrobras is the main supporter of whale conservation and research through the Brazilian Right Whale Project and the Instituto Baleia Jubarte (Brazilian Humpback Whale Institute).
10 (33) Sinopec-China Petroleum (China)
Sales: 154.28 Profits: 7.43 Assets: 100.41 Market value: 93.50
Fact: The company opened the first drive-through petrol station and fast-food restaurant in China in 2007. Hopefully the restaurant enforces a strict no-smoking policy.
http://www.arabianoilandgas.com/article-5320-worlds-10-largest-publicly-traded-oil-companies/1/print/
18 December 2013 15:29
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
(Haha:
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its like seeing ghost people
18 December 2013 15:03
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
(monel onnetul molemat kah..)
18 December 2013 15:02
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
ja kel rasvaks ei tee sellel lyyb issias p2he :D
18 December 2013 15:02
Margus Meigo commented on Shepherd Tony's post.
Group: The Anunnaki Earth Council
From the sea or sky?
(:18 December 2013 14:55
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
(this commentary, the last one - was almost "just" .. but not even that was just... )
18 December 2013 14:55
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
am still thinking western civilization is the one who will save Asia - as well,
its pretty likely :p
we will see : )
its pretty likely :p
we will see : )
18 December 2013 14:48
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
Yes girls but you newer really did take effort to read as so much more important to do right ?
And me newer likest to argue, just to make sure that person understands what me thinks and feels, for starters.
So yeah, these people who say "Margus JUST likest to argue.." clearly just do not know me at all, its extremely rare when me "just" do something. But when friends say will not take notice to much as they must be ironically joking...
But will meet some day who"s do get it, there must be intelligence in this planet that can connect with feelings n" thoughts of mine as well
(there will be coming movies as well, ... something that will continue tradition and mission of Alejandro Jodorowsky (movies made under different possessions of high beings) with touch of clearer psychology, practical technology & mysticism
+ of course... my own (if that exists)
And me newer likest to argue, just to make sure that person understands what me thinks and feels, for starters.
So yeah, these people who say "Margus JUST likest to argue.." clearly just do not know me at all, its extremely rare when me "just" do something. But when friends say will not take notice to much as they must be ironically joking...
But will meet some day who"s do get it, there must be intelligence in this planet that can connect with feelings n" thoughts of mine as well
(there will be coming movies as well, ... something that will continue tradition and mission of Alejandro Jodorowsky (movies made under different possessions of high beings) with touch of clearer psychology, practical technology & mysticism
+ of course... my own (if that exists)
18 December 2013 14:45
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Salamone's post.
Group: The Philosophy Takeaway
..cant like that.
But they should have MUCH more larger control - means, view about people action, - people throw crap on the ground, smoke publicly, ignore homeless people, eat meat, propagate anger against state or even against royalty and religion by using lies or false information, drink alcohol and often generally act like dicks or robots - and no state official is rushing to heal these people who make society colder place (that will result SO much of a bad that can not even start to list it here)
most of the list sounds silly looking from the middle point of world but .. our middle point is pretty dark ...18 December 2013 14:33
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
jup, enneks vaikses koguses keha suudab myrke taluda ja need kehast valja viia, ylejaanu energjaks toota..
Muidu kogu enamus asju me enda keha toodab ja konverdib ka suhkruks et meid liikumas hoida kuid valge suhkur on nagu plastik jalamati narimine musta leiva asemel, energja saamiseks >D
Muidu kogu enamus asju me enda keha toodab ja konverdib ka suhkruks et meid liikumas hoida kuid valge suhkur on nagu plastik jalamati narimine musta leiva asemel, energja saamiseks >D
18 December 2013 14:21
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Group: Rahvuslased
eesti relv on meie keel ja vanaisade tarkus eelmiste sugupolvede kohta, million lehte folkloori kymnete tuhandete ravimite kirjutistega ja maailma praktiline poliitika mida jagame maamehe tarkusega tagataskust keskmise koolipoisina paremini kui ...
noh, kuid siinkohal tuleb uhkus ette, ja siis me oma piiridest kaugemale tihti ei jouagi kuna taome parem naabrimehele leivalabidaga pikki pead, selle asemel, et vastutus maakera eest votta, nagu normaalne inimese algatus peaks, ajal kus keskmiselt selgem keskmisele inimesele, et piirid mille parast muretseme ei ole enam aint maapinnalised
,maised
Kuid eks keskmine oleneb mis punktist moota..18 December 2013 13:46
Margus Meigo commented on Tara Bell's post.
i thought you wrote it Tara
18 December 2013 13:38
Margus Meigo commented on Markus Timps's post.
"See meeldib 20 inimest inimesele." ... nu jah siis..
18 December 2013 13:36
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
& ma siin kodutute kohas kus neilt kysitakse, "do you want honey or (white)sugar with porridge babe?"
Ja inimesed vastavad: "Sugar please"
nagu wtf
Ja inimesed vastavad: "Sugar please"
nagu wtf
18 December 2013 13:36
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
keegi ytles, et votab 10 000 mesilast yhe teelusika tegemiseks...
teeluusika taie mee, st
teeluusika taie mee, st
18 December 2013 13:34
Margus Meigo commented on Hannah Aiyana's photo.
Great faces!
18 December 2013 13:28
Margus Meigo commented on Marijuana's video.
She is most likely asking "Am i to fat"
18 December 2013 13:27
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
+ alien as well,
18 December 2013 13:24
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
true :D
18 December 2013 13:24
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's album.
Hyva joulasi!
18 December 2013 13:24
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
Ma sain inspiratsiooni temalt ameerika korda teha, seega me (skoor) tasa
18 December 2013 13:22
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's link.
See vingelt vahva: http://www.adriansommeling.com/afbeeldingen/nic_sneeuw950px_20121223092839.jpg
18 December 2013 13:22
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's link.
Kuid head fotod tal kodukal! (Y)
18 December 2013 13:20
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's link.
kuidas see nyyd peaks voimalik olema ?
18 December 2013 13:19
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's link.
Manariinid yldse tegelt yhed kahtlased viljad,
pigista mandariini koort sedasi, et see pritsib tule ligidal (valgumihkel vms) et moista mis motlen..
pigista mandariini koort sedasi, et see pritsib tule ligidal (valgumihkel vms) et moista mis motlen..
18 December 2013 13:19
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
@ kahtlaseks kiskuma indeed
sexu kaudu meid kontrollitakse, ja nyyd kui veel sexude piirid voimalikult h2guseks ja ebaoluliseks teha siis me afi aju kohe suure huraaga mugavusele kaasa laheb,
muidugi teemade jargi paigutamine ka ikkagi suht voimalikult hea voib olla...
Kuid yeah, kui arvestada mida sexuaalsusega suures plaanis tehakse masside liigutamiseks nede enda karjatamiseks siis suht kreepilt iga selline uudis kolab...
esialgu vahemalt
sexu kaudu meid kontrollitakse, ja nyyd kui veel sexude piirid voimalikult h2guseks ja ebaoluliseks teha siis me afi aju kohe suure huraaga mugavusele kaasa laheb,
muidugi teemade jargi paigutamine ka ikkagi suht voimalikult hea voib olla...
Kuid yeah, kui arvestada mida sexuaalsusega suures plaanis tehakse masside liigutamiseks nede enda karjatamiseks siis suht kreepilt iga selline uudis kolab...
esialgu vahemalt
18 December 2013 13:16
Margus Meigo commented on George Gaf's post.
Group: World UFO Group
Connor Elsom so s it any god ?17 December 2013 08:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
17 December 2013 08:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
17 December 2013 08:41
Margus Meigo commented on Markus Timps's post.
(voimaixi korvitsad :p juu know what am talking about :D )
17 December 2013 08:19
Margus Meigo commented on Markus Timps's post.
...kurgid mulle!
17 December 2013 08:19
Margus Meigo commented on Saale Kareda's post.
Religion
17 December 2013 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
Vaou :))
17 December 2013 00:33
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
tanan moistlikuse eest
17 December 2013 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT9cDucN92U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT9cDucN92U
16 December 2013 22:41
Margus Meigo commented on Saale Kareda's post.
ja see tous mis praegu raagitakse (et ooo juba 1000) .. see alles enne seda kui see kuulsaks saanud on... et eks peab vaatama mis plaanid maailma valitsejatel selles osas on,
ideaalne raha rahapesuks, poliitikutele altkaemaksu jaoks, sojavale mustade asjade ostmiseks, igast manguritel ja koikidel kes praegu koige enam raha omavad... eks nendele kasud ole suuremad...
ka 10 000 vaartusega on alles algus sellele kui kasutama pariselt hakatakse..
kuni sinnamaani kuni ma juhtme seinast valja tomban... tombame..
Mitte unustada, ka tulnarid, shamaanid ja Loojad siin maailma mangus... saab huvitav olema
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qANnNYTdk68
ideaalne raha rahapesuks, poliitikutele altkaemaksu jaoks, sojavale mustade asjade ostmiseks, igast manguritel ja koikidel kes praegu koige enam raha omavad... eks nendele kasud ole suuremad...
ka 10 000 vaartusega on alles algus sellele kui kasutama pariselt hakatakse..
kuni sinnamaani kuni ma juhtme seinast valja tomban... tombame..
Mitte unustada, ka tulnarid, shamaanid ja Loojad siin maailma mangus... saab huvitav olema
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qANnNYTdk68
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qANnNYTdk68
16 December 2013 22:32
Margus Meigo commented on Saale Kareda's post.
Nu see peaks tegelt olema alternatiiv mis disaini poolt on loodud uueks klobaalseks rahaks mis tava raha valja vahetab. Norgad kohad... mis seal ikka nii vaga neid on peale selle yhe suurema, et see endiselt inimesi rahasse hullutab
(kui UKse tulin u aasta tagasi siis oli 20 poundi, praegu yle 1000 .. ja see enne main streamile minekut, sest Wall street inimesed alles plaanivad sisse minema hakata suuremalt)
Eks nork koht ole jah, et kes su arvutile ligi paaseb saab ka su asjadele ligi kui sa arvutisse salvestad selle.. ja et kui koine hoiab suvalises exchanges siis void ilma jaada kergesti kui sisse murtakse (sillicon walley ja mitmed suur tegjatel ikka hard nightly coopiad ja tagasi maksu skeemid hakkimise kaitseks) .. seega valida turvaline koht kus hoida asju..
Mul endal aga hoopis muud ja suts laieldasemad, kosmilised motted, paranoiad ja ideed selle suhtes.
Positiivsuse poole peale, see raha saab muuta inim liigi kaitumist siin planeedil, et kuidas nad teineteisse ja rahasse suhtuvad (positiivses suunas) .. kuid eks sellel proovin seletada pikemalt kuskil hiljem..
Kokku see yle 55 tuhande protsendi kasvanud viimase 5 aasta jooksul... :p
(kui UKse tulin u aasta tagasi siis oli 20 poundi, praegu yle 1000 .. ja see enne main streamile minekut, sest Wall street inimesed alles plaanivad sisse minema hakata suuremalt)
Eks nork koht ole jah, et kes su arvutile ligi paaseb saab ka su asjadele ligi kui sa arvutisse salvestad selle.. ja et kui koine hoiab suvalises exchanges siis void ilma jaada kergesti kui sisse murtakse (sillicon walley ja mitmed suur tegjatel ikka hard nightly coopiad ja tagasi maksu skeemid hakkimise kaitseks) .. seega valida turvaline koht kus hoida asju..
Mul endal aga hoopis muud ja suts laieldasemad, kosmilised motted, paranoiad ja ideed selle suhtes.
Positiivsuse poole peale, see raha saab muuta inim liigi kaitumist siin planeedil, et kuidas nad teineteisse ja rahasse suhtuvad (positiivses suunas) .. kuid eks sellel proovin seletada pikemalt kuskil hiljem..
Kokku see yle 55 tuhande protsendi kasvanud viimase 5 aasta jooksul... :p
16 December 2013 22:28
Margus Meigo commented on Saale Kareda's post.
mis bitcoinist arvad ?
16 December 2013 22:21
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
and like one homeless old man in street told me who work in liberary before.. " If you make proper good joint, it makes you think about God! " ..
true true
true true
16 December 2013 21:23
Margus Meigo commented on Judith E. Avery's post.
.. neet to " get a DEA number and take a health assessment course " so "will be able to prescribe" ...
Whaat, :D thats not enlightening thing to read from my psy doctor who prescribed to me like long time ago :D :D
or what kind of drugs you are talking about ?
Great to hear that you girls are still in meds.
will extend my comment in usual manner, now:
Help for future:
______
Hey Hey. but good luck, from heart
and keep in mind.. that if you combine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_drug ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_experience )
& Religion Truths most of the dissorders we try to cure will disolve and will be understood, - this what the Spirits actually want from us anyways most likelly.
Thought waiting reply..
________
Strange, some drugs have big history causing suecidal actions and some others just by ONE correct usage have long history of life lasting positive effects with full responsibilty of mistakes that was made in past..
and these of them is classified as A drug, in same group with crack/cocaine and ... these other drugs that have had in past versions warnings like
these are inforced even in some arias of world
A bit rambeling...
________
and besides, there is so many multi-dimensional and Alien religions (and, there is many..with no finace scemes involved) besides gov leaked (aka hackers hacked) information from past and present about "abnormal" occurences or "extra teresstial" tecnology - experiences, that on in the end of 22th sentury we might start to medicate these who still have hard time cooping with bigger picture of world where is common sence, things like posessions, other spirits, intelligent life forms, beings and gov sections what "grow/breed us" .. and well. Woices and astra travelings - ordinary indeed. Well, not for me ofcourse.
Mainstream Articles snipets in arias of interest
--------------------------------------
"However, recent animal studies indicate that antipsychotics, the mainstay of treatment for schizophrenia patients, may also contribute to brain tissue volume decrement"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3476840/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21300943
The scale of the study is impressive, says Andreas Meyer-Lindenberg, a neuroscientist at the University of Heidelberg in Mannheim, Germany. "It's by far the largest sample studied longitudinally. And there was a great follow-up and retention rate,"
"For instance, one meta-analysis points to 5–7% reductions in the size of the amygdala, hippocampus and parahippocampus2, which are all involved in memory storage and retrieval. "
http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110207/full/news.2011.75.html
The authors pointed out that the findings must be interpreted with caution because "identifying an association does not necessarily indicate a causal relationship."
Duration of follow-up had a significant association with all brain volumes except total cerebral white matter, frontal white matter, temporal white matter, and cerebellum (P≤0.02). After adjustment for duration of follow-up, illness severity, and substance misuse, antipsychotic therapy remained a significant influence on total cerebral and lobal gray matter and putamen volumes (P≤0.04).
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Psychiatry/Schizophrenia/24763
linical studies in humans present an intriguing picture: antipsychotics, used for the treatment of schizophrenia and psychosis, may contribute to cortical gray matter loss in patients, whereas lithium, used for the treatment of bipolar disorder and mania, may preserve gray matter in patients.
" Gray matter was decreased by 6% after haloperidol treatment, but increased by 3% after lithium treatment.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120508103915.htm
http://schizophreniabulletin.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2012/10/03/schbul.sbs118.full
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/01497634
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mad-in-america/201102/andreasen-drops-bombshell-antipsychotics-shrink-the-brain
last but not last: http://www.mindfreedom.org/kb/psychiatric-drugs/antipsychotics/neuroleptic-brain-damage
...found much more serious info from studyes few years ago, will locate later.
Will organize all that in more neutral way, send some links as well what should interest us.
but yeah
No vomnder some pacients have extreme difficulties couping with "reallity" when we live world with facts like that (besides all the acceptance of training people to remove others life as NOT psycological disorder.. hmm.)
Perhaps will see ya in Guam aria in future times! its great there!
Whaat, :D thats not enlightening thing to read from my psy doctor who prescribed to me like long time ago :D :D
or what kind of drugs you are talking about ?
Great to hear that you girls are still in meds.
will extend my comment in usual manner, now:
Help for future:
______
Hey Hey. but good luck, from heart
and keep in mind.. that if you combine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_drug ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_experience )
& Religion Truths most of the dissorders we try to cure will disolve and will be understood, - this what the Spirits actually want from us anyways most likelly.
Thought waiting reply..
________
Strange, some drugs have big history causing suecidal actions and some others just by ONE correct usage have long history of life lasting positive effects with full responsibilty of mistakes that was made in past..
and these of them is classified as A drug, in same group with crack/cocaine and ... these other drugs that have had in past versions warnings like
these are inforced even in some arias of world
A bit rambeling...
________
and besides, there is so many multi-dimensional and Alien religions (and, there is many..with no finace scemes involved) besides gov leaked (aka hackers hacked) information from past and present about "abnormal" occurences or "extra teresstial" tecnology - experiences, that on in the end of 22th sentury we might start to medicate these who still have hard time cooping with bigger picture of world where is common sence, things like posessions, other spirits, intelligent life forms, beings and gov sections what "grow/breed us" .. and well. Woices and astra travelings - ordinary indeed. Well, not for me ofcourse.
Mainstream Articles snipets in arias of interest
--------------------------------------
"However, recent animal studies indicate that antipsychotics, the mainstay of treatment for schizophrenia patients, may also contribute to brain tissue volume decrement"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3476840/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21300943
The scale of the study is impressive, says Andreas Meyer-Lindenberg, a neuroscientist at the University of Heidelberg in Mannheim, Germany. "It's by far the largest sample studied longitudinally. And there was a great follow-up and retention rate,"
"For instance, one meta-analysis points to 5–7% reductions in the size of the amygdala, hippocampus and parahippocampus2, which are all involved in memory storage and retrieval. "
http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110207/full/news.2011.75.html
The authors pointed out that the findings must be interpreted with caution because "identifying an association does not necessarily indicate a causal relationship."
Duration of follow-up had a significant association with all brain volumes except total cerebral white matter, frontal white matter, temporal white matter, and cerebellum (P≤0.02). After adjustment for duration of follow-up, illness severity, and substance misuse, antipsychotic therapy remained a significant influence on total cerebral and lobal gray matter and putamen volumes (P≤0.04).
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Psychiatry/Schizophrenia/24763
linical studies in humans present an intriguing picture: antipsychotics, used for the treatment of schizophrenia and psychosis, may contribute to cortical gray matter loss in patients, whereas lithium, used for the treatment of bipolar disorder and mania, may preserve gray matter in patients.
" Gray matter was decreased by 6% after haloperidol treatment, but increased by 3% after lithium treatment.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120508103915.htm
http://schizophreniabulletin.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2012/10/03/schbul.sbs118.full
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/01497634
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mad-in-america/201102/andreasen-drops-bombshell-antipsychotics-shrink-the-brain
last but not last: http://www.mindfreedom.org/kb/psychiatric-drugs/antipsychotics/neuroleptic-brain-damage
...found much more serious info from studyes few years ago, will locate later.
Will organize all that in more neutral way, send some links as well what should interest us.
but yeah
No vomnder some pacients have extreme difficulties couping with "reallity" when we live world with facts like that (besides all the acceptance of training people to remove others life as NOT psycological disorder.. hmm.)
Perhaps will see ya in Guam aria in future times! its great there!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_drug
16 December 2013 20:57
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
and its true as well :D
16 December 2013 20:22
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
going back to the beginning of topic,
Would we have been so bothered if the girl would have said same but instead about Germans ?
Or about ... insurgents - seems to be another sub-humans.. that are mentioned in news as not humans...
Oeh..
Would we have been so bothered if the girl would have said same but instead about Germans ?
Or about ... insurgents - seems to be another sub-humans.. that are mentioned in news as not humans...
Oeh..
16 December 2013 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
seems am rambeling in sircles... i am perhaps a bit, but ..
Send me some serious letters even to my mail box, to here privatly even (as well, besides expressing publicly, you should be able to do one and another.. perhaps..)
Will see, what solutions we REALLY have, for solving these kind of things...
Ending up with a article.. that was samall ordinary one, comapred with one women cocain use that was all ower media in all pages, at same time.. while this news just got bearly mentioned, once have seen it...
well.. to be honest she also get abused while spending ower million dollars on plesures and so on.. also real pain, but...
here it is:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/sex-slaves-cage-horror-london-woman-exposes-torment-in-indian-brothels-8982409.html
"women in Mumbai were kept in small cages to “break them”’ before being put to work as prostitutes." "who was trafficked to Kamathipura from elsewhere in India at the age of 11. Now 22, she has been working as a prostitute ever since, and has not managed to escape despite help from charities."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_India "Child prostitution is a major problem in India involving around 1.2 million children"
" Human Rights Watch puts the figure of sex workers in India at around 20 million" " The number of prostitutes rose by 50% between 1997 and 2004..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_prostitution_in_Thailand "By 1964, that number had grown to 400,000, and by 1972, when the United States withdrew its main combat troops from Vietnam, there were at least 500,000 working prostitutes in the country. From there on, the Thai sex industry simply exploded" children in prostitution make up 40% of prostitutes in Thailan (et nagu sealt maalt. alles exploded.. et ei kujuta ettegi mis numbrid seal pariselt olla voivad...
"Tanzania Some 84% of girls in prostitution interviewed in Tanzania reported having been battered, raped or tortured by police officers and sungu sungu (local community guards). At least 60% had no permanent place to live"
In Brazil, UNICEF estimates that there are 250,000 children working in the child prostitution industr
In El Salvador, one-third of the sexually exploited children between 14 and 17 years of age are boys. The median age for entering into prostitution among all children interviewed was 13 years. They worked on average five days per week, although nearly 10% reported that they worked seven days a week
UNited States: 300,000 children...
...
How many you plan to save before and your life here, even if you do not see that what you do is SEEN in versus of that what you know.. now you know.. so sorry.. ?
Seriously, am should be sorry,
and you should not be depressed
Send me some serious letters even to my mail box, to here privatly even (as well, besides expressing publicly, you should be able to do one and another.. perhaps..)
Will see, what solutions we REALLY have, for solving these kind of things...
Ending up with a article.. that was samall ordinary one, comapred with one women cocain use that was all ower media in all pages, at same time.. while this news just got bearly mentioned, once have seen it...
well.. to be honest she also get abused while spending ower million dollars on plesures and so on.. also real pain, but...
here it is:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/sex-slaves-cage-horror-london-woman-exposes-torment-in-indian-brothels-8982409.html
"women in Mumbai were kept in small cages to “break them”’ before being put to work as prostitutes." "who was trafficked to Kamathipura from elsewhere in India at the age of 11. Now 22, she has been working as a prostitute ever since, and has not managed to escape despite help from charities."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_India "Child prostitution is a major problem in India involving around 1.2 million children"
" Human Rights Watch puts the figure of sex workers in India at around 20 million" " The number of prostitutes rose by 50% between 1997 and 2004..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_prostitution_in_Thailand "By 1964, that number had grown to 400,000, and by 1972, when the United States withdrew its main combat troops from Vietnam, there were at least 500,000 working prostitutes in the country. From there on, the Thai sex industry simply exploded" children in prostitution make up 40% of prostitutes in Thailan (et nagu sealt maalt. alles exploded.. et ei kujuta ettegi mis numbrid seal pariselt olla voivad...
"Tanzania Some 84% of girls in prostitution interviewed in Tanzania reported having been battered, raped or tortured by police officers and sungu sungu (local community guards). At least 60% had no permanent place to live"
In Brazil, UNICEF estimates that there are 250,000 children working in the child prostitution industr
In El Salvador, one-third of the sexually exploited children between 14 and 17 years of age are boys. The median age for entering into prostitution among all children interviewed was 13 years. They worked on average five days per week, although nearly 10% reported that they worked seven days a week
UNited States: 300,000 children...
...
How many you plan to save before and your life here, even if you do not see that what you do is SEEN in versus of that what you know.. now you know.. so sorry.. ?
Seriously, am should be sorry,
and you should not be depressed
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/sex-slaves-cage-horror-london-woman-exposes-torment-in-indian-brothels-8982409.html
16 December 2013 20:09
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
so how do you get equal rights to the 14+ MILLION slaves in india, (yes, we have more slaves in now then in past, ... in the past they was probabaly threated better thought in majorty, as slave cost money back then, now slave much more cheaper, ordinary household pay can get you few easily and if you are smart and brutal then for free)
so in india alone is about 2 MILLION child prositutes,
how to get them equal rights for food household and water (and right to be not abused by clients) comared with ordinary police man or pimp or ... even you ? Are you REALLY good human and want to make word better, starting from yourself? Are you WILLING to go to some of these pimps, get all your savings, BUY back some of these sildren and offer yourself as excange to be abused (this is pretty much only way these pimps would agree of exchange, as they are business mans, and in businees, its just business and numbers.. as in War business.. and human organ business.. and sigarete company business etc.. )
So how many of you, want to make even ONE of these slaves EQUAL and replace your life with theirs?
Its possible, not really common but systers, mothers, friends and children do it for their loved ones.
My mother have to let her to be abused by prisen gards when she was shild just to see her politically prisoned mother who in return slap her in to a face..
..other times she let do to her unimaginable things with full devotion and surrender so these things would not be done to her children by these Spirits (..well, i/me hope its not a person..doing it... ) who possessed the guys body who come from prison and who know how to psycologically threaten..
yes police was also called sometimes ... but ordinary police has no religious training so they handle it as ordinary home violence.. that is so suprisingly a lot around us.. hmm.. wonder why, perhaps becouse we do not care?
I mean.. this man who am mentioned before was done some of the things by hes mother to him.. and one other older guy who am know was done some unimaginable things by hes mother to him.. to turn him in to monster posessed by ... by who ever posessed hes mother... to pass the Spirit by breaking down in future as many children and women withe out protection as possible... and they always choose as good humans as they can.. who are withe out proper protection and make some religious mistakes..
so they can be cut off from society... and with proper thretening , the kind you do not see from movies really.. as this horrible things there are soft core compared with real life, as its hard to make movies like that.. so we make abusing women and people, humans, killing and beating them looking exciting and exalerating... and sex abuse we make look in movies in a way also so it turns on some sicks f.. posessed people who .. or just as some might want to say: NORMAL PEOPLE WITH JUST DIFFERENT VALUES, PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU AND ME, WHO BELIVE DIFFERENT OR HAVE NEEDS THAT YOU FASSIST DO NOT AGREE WITH.. and wanna cut away hes/her freedom and equalty... there is many people get abused anyway every minute of the earth day, so no worryes,.. right? or .. no ? something like that..
Sorry, this topic just tick me off and going down to rabbit hole in here a bit... but can you people feel anything ? Like... i was serious about, will you offer yourself as slave to someone? So are we ANY level good humans at all to talk here something ?
Yes, you would make world better to exange out few girls from there.. as you still will have mind for short time.. to use it to strenghten people around you who are abused... and perhaps you wanna even act like criminal, penetrate these dark forces from inside and escape, or teach others how to escape? ...
but yeah.. for that they do take your blood.. ...i mean you can also go to softer bordels and not the deepest darkest place what will look deep in to your girl/human mind and KNOW if you have plan or if you still have some ego left to break down.. as they know how to keep their empire.. to produce.. people.. that will keep projecting these kind of thoughts to the world.. that will make world heard colder and colder.. and world not warmer at all..
did we not know visualization has power? And who wisualizes more and more storngly... as emotional visualization .. specialy related to one or other polaraty.. has extra power...
who wisualizes per day more.. as one of these girls who get abused daily with extreme pain ... or we.. hippi minded pohemians, who like to also "think" how to make world better.. and then will go tu Universty to read theoryes about it what others have sayd and .. what they tell. .and wel... to be honest most of us will still end up under different pimp who allowes us to think and feel a bit but in the end one knows, this human who is strangled by money.. is controllable and WILL most of often do as they are told first, before expressing ones own family or personal needs, as next one waits on door.. in fact, 10... so if one rebels, not big loss.. they will learn from another company... and if they break down to much.. then they can see what happens to these who do not obey to normal pimps who actually are willing to give them (for as law to keep slaves now you should pay them and pay medicals, to keep them in illusion that they are free, globally its accepted by ordinary work slaves, not specialysed slaves like labarotory people, gov people or going back to the body and spiritual slaves for cults and pimps to satisfy all these forces that WE HUMANS, ARGGHH, let in this earth, by opening our mind to .. things we should not , jet, before we know a bit more what is allowed to look, think, eat, do.. and how to do... but no.. we want FREEDOM... to.. let our body to be possessed by who ever, even if they do not like human species.. does not matter.. as i want my jelwerly.. my vacation.. my nabers wife or to feel angry if someone does something to me that we all would agree is not good. Why cant we feel angry, one was bad person... right? ... well.. going back to HOW GOOD ARE YOU , really... would you give your body.. to give rest ... so at least vounds would heal in sensual organs.. for a half a year.. just for exchange... so many of them would pray for that if they would know there would be some good people out there besides their family who would do it for them... but there is not.. not to much... not around here.. right ? ... well.. perhaps there is more... after all.. there must be so many good people as no one is making mass strike against these ones who systematically destroing and ignoring to destruction of human species... ((to take topic in uni about socialogy or something, and then meeting up in Starbuck ower caffe to talk about "how hard life is in chinese people.. (sophisticated talkers even have graphs and fat text books about it)" .. will not really do it... as most of the talkers will 10 years later pay their credit card, try to save their own children, often unsucessfuly becouse of lack of spiritual or religious education, or becouse of discunctional relations inside family that was not payd attention in most important corners, as studyes and work needed to be done.. about....))
so in india alone is about 2 MILLION child prositutes,
how to get them equal rights for food household and water (and right to be not abused by clients) comared with ordinary police man or pimp or ... even you ? Are you REALLY good human and want to make word better, starting from yourself? Are you WILLING to go to some of these pimps, get all your savings, BUY back some of these sildren and offer yourself as excange to be abused (this is pretty much only way these pimps would agree of exchange, as they are business mans, and in businees, its just business and numbers.. as in War business.. and human organ business.. and sigarete company business etc.. )
So how many of you, want to make even ONE of these slaves EQUAL and replace your life with theirs?
Its possible, not really common but systers, mothers, friends and children do it for their loved ones.
My mother have to let her to be abused by prisen gards when she was shild just to see her politically prisoned mother who in return slap her in to a face..
..other times she let do to her unimaginable things with full devotion and surrender so these things would not be done to her children by these Spirits (..well, i/me hope its not a person..doing it... ) who possessed the guys body who come from prison and who know how to psycologically threaten..
yes police was also called sometimes ... but ordinary police has no religious training so they handle it as ordinary home violence.. that is so suprisingly a lot around us.. hmm.. wonder why, perhaps becouse we do not care?
I mean.. this man who am mentioned before was done some of the things by hes mother to him.. and one other older guy who am know was done some unimaginable things by hes mother to him.. to turn him in to monster posessed by ... by who ever posessed hes mother... to pass the Spirit by breaking down in future as many children and women withe out protection as possible... and they always choose as good humans as they can.. who are withe out proper protection and make some religious mistakes..
so they can be cut off from society... and with proper thretening , the kind you do not see from movies really.. as this horrible things there are soft core compared with real life, as its hard to make movies like that.. so we make abusing women and people, humans, killing and beating them looking exciting and exalerating... and sex abuse we make look in movies in a way also so it turns on some sicks f.. posessed people who .. or just as some might want to say: NORMAL PEOPLE WITH JUST DIFFERENT VALUES, PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU AND ME, WHO BELIVE DIFFERENT OR HAVE NEEDS THAT YOU FASSIST DO NOT AGREE WITH.. and wanna cut away hes/her freedom and equalty... there is many people get abused anyway every minute of the earth day, so no worryes,.. right? or .. no ? something like that..
Sorry, this topic just tick me off and going down to rabbit hole in here a bit... but can you people feel anything ? Like... i was serious about, will you offer yourself as slave to someone? So are we ANY level good humans at all to talk here something ?
Yes, you would make world better to exange out few girls from there.. as you still will have mind for short time.. to use it to strenghten people around you who are abused... and perhaps you wanna even act like criminal, penetrate these dark forces from inside and escape, or teach others how to escape? ...
but yeah.. for that they do take your blood.. ...i mean you can also go to softer bordels and not the deepest darkest place what will look deep in to your girl/human mind and KNOW if you have plan or if you still have some ego left to break down.. as they know how to keep their empire.. to produce.. people.. that will keep projecting these kind of thoughts to the world.. that will make world heard colder and colder.. and world not warmer at all..
did we not know visualization has power? And who wisualizes more and more storngly... as emotional visualization .. specialy related to one or other polaraty.. has extra power...
who wisualizes per day more.. as one of these girls who get abused daily with extreme pain ... or we.. hippi minded pohemians, who like to also "think" how to make world better.. and then will go tu Universty to read theoryes about it what others have sayd and .. what they tell. .and wel... to be honest most of us will still end up under different pimp who allowes us to think and feel a bit but in the end one knows, this human who is strangled by money.. is controllable and WILL most of often do as they are told first, before expressing ones own family or personal needs, as next one waits on door.. in fact, 10... so if one rebels, not big loss.. they will learn from another company... and if they break down to much.. then they can see what happens to these who do not obey to normal pimps who actually are willing to give them (for as law to keep slaves now you should pay them and pay medicals, to keep them in illusion that they are free, globally its accepted by ordinary work slaves, not specialysed slaves like labarotory people, gov people or going back to the body and spiritual slaves for cults and pimps to satisfy all these forces that WE HUMANS, ARGGHH, let in this earth, by opening our mind to .. things we should not , jet, before we know a bit more what is allowed to look, think, eat, do.. and how to do... but no.. we want FREEDOM... to.. let our body to be possessed by who ever, even if they do not like human species.. does not matter.. as i want my jelwerly.. my vacation.. my nabers wife or to feel angry if someone does something to me that we all would agree is not good. Why cant we feel angry, one was bad person... right? ... well.. going back to HOW GOOD ARE YOU , really... would you give your body.. to give rest ... so at least vounds would heal in sensual organs.. for a half a year.. just for exchange... so many of them would pray for that if they would know there would be some good people out there besides their family who would do it for them... but there is not.. not to much... not around here.. right ? ... well.. perhaps there is more... after all.. there must be so many good people as no one is making mass strike against these ones who systematically destroing and ignoring to destruction of human species... ((to take topic in uni about socialogy or something, and then meeting up in Starbuck ower caffe to talk about "how hard life is in chinese people.. (sophisticated talkers even have graphs and fat text books about it)" .. will not really do it... as most of the talkers will 10 years later pay their credit card, try to save their own children, often unsucessfuly becouse of lack of spiritual or religious education, or becouse of discunctional relations inside family that was not payd attention in most important corners, as studyes and work needed to be done.. about....))
16 December 2013 20:09
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
- well, will shape this text in to more harsh one later,
hard to write so that some really wrong words would not slip in , so text would not have possessive and reprogramming power to bab/negative way but same time would make enought feel to get the point across
just someone told me yesterday how one was in prison with huge poxer who prutaly assuted women on train and then to finish up hes job throw her out from train with no remorse...
... not even sure he was in prison for that...
but these kind of things happen in some arias of sitis.. as normal... some scools people know.. that they have to.. She have to .. if she wants to go to scool.. with out to much harm,.,.
hard to write so that some really wrong words would not slip in , so text would not have possessive and reprogramming power to bab/negative way but same time would make enought feel to get the point across
just someone told me yesterday how one was in prison with huge poxer who prutaly assuted women on train and then to finish up hes job throw her out from train with no remorse...
... not even sure he was in prison for that...
but these kind of things happen in some arias of sitis.. as normal... some scools people know.. that they have to.. She have to .. if she wants to go to scool.. with out to much harm,.,.
16 December 2013 19:12
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
neeh, i do not support equal rights,
as then these people who do not respect equal rights will have more rights as these will step on others and will abuse the system .. as its right now (right now bdw is pretty near to "equal rights" world.. as all of the bafia bosses, pimps, wices, kings or even prutal criminals who do unimaginable things, daily if they want to and same time they own money, a bit of power ower human lifes etc...
they will say:
(spoiler: do not read if you want to keep your day nice, as its not pleasent flow of words)
"WHAT stop you to do same as me? If you need plesure or to satisfy sick imaginations - just do it, if you need money - make slaves or rob it, if you need sort out differences just kill or torture, step on your friends head and lie to get YOUR life more equal and better, threten with dark force if needed as people will be to scared to reoprt to police most of the time anyway - and they do not trust police as well, that makes my life easier! haha, so yea,
if you get punished - does not matter, STATE always always punishes LESS then others like ME anyway... if they wanna kill, they do even that nicely, suckers, so there is nothing else to be worryed about besides Greator and hes companions.. but luckilly most people do not belive in them so they are in even whorst possition then then me in end of the day... hahahaha, suckers! " )
So yea, NOW, ehen this ME is on food line, on lines of rights with children, old people, with abused lonely womens and retarded people or religious ones - I WANT THEM to put me in the center (no need front)
AS AM just LIKE them, human being.. deserving same rights all the time
and besides, amond these pussyes, ME can find some new victims, YES, ME doing it for sure, to come these EQUAL rights lines (whatever line it is, ) for THAT reason, sometimes ME tells you.. sometimes... if ME sees.. that others would cut me off... for sure ME lies... as there is no use of moralaty for ME... .. ME knows how to pretend... to be nice.. and if anyone planmes me on something... will jsut remind these hippie ignorant silly people: we are all equal (well.. some say even on the eyes of Maker..) ...
and for sure, inside ME knows... me even more equal... on the eyes.. as ME even knows that HIGH powers excist... se me knows.. WHO to suck up if really needed... even thought.. i am ruthles criminal saico pastard... but not stupid
as then these people who do not respect equal rights will have more rights as these will step on others and will abuse the system .. as its right now (right now bdw is pretty near to "equal rights" world.. as all of the bafia bosses, pimps, wices, kings or even prutal criminals who do unimaginable things, daily if they want to and same time they own money, a bit of power ower human lifes etc...
they will say:
(spoiler: do not read if you want to keep your day nice, as its not pleasent flow of words)
"WHAT stop you to do same as me? If you need plesure or to satisfy sick imaginations - just do it, if you need money - make slaves or rob it, if you need sort out differences just kill or torture, step on your friends head and lie to get YOUR life more equal and better, threten with dark force if needed as people will be to scared to reoprt to police most of the time anyway - and they do not trust police as well, that makes my life easier! haha, so yea,
if you get punished - does not matter, STATE always always punishes LESS then others like ME anyway... if they wanna kill, they do even that nicely, suckers, so there is nothing else to be worryed about besides Greator and hes companions.. but luckilly most people do not belive in them so they are in even whorst possition then then me in end of the day... hahahaha, suckers! " )
So yea, NOW, ehen this ME is on food line, on lines of rights with children, old people, with abused lonely womens and retarded people or religious ones - I WANT THEM to put me in the center (no need front)
AS AM just LIKE them, human being.. deserving same rights all the time
and besides, amond these pussyes, ME can find some new victims, YES, ME doing it for sure, to come these EQUAL rights lines (whatever line it is, ) for THAT reason, sometimes ME tells you.. sometimes... if ME sees.. that others would cut me off... for sure ME lies... as there is no use of moralaty for ME... .. ME knows how to pretend... to be nice.. and if anyone planmes me on something... will jsut remind these hippie ignorant silly people: we are all equal (well.. some say even on the eyes of Maker..) ...
and for sure, inside ME knows... me even more equal... on the eyes.. as ME even knows that HIGH powers excist... se me knows.. WHO to suck up if really needed... even thought.. i am ruthles criminal saico pastard... but not stupid
16 December 2013 19:09
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek Saviir's post.
:D:D:D
Okey, nanane naer ka naerdud :D:D
Okey, nanane naer ka naerdud :D:D
15 December 2013 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Noh, kellegil olid varased joulad!
(ehh.. sul ka enne uute aastat kaidi keldris sees, see vist kingi eestlaste tiblalik komme, ja tiblalikuse all motlen tiblalikust)
(ehh.. sul ka enne uute aastat kaidi keldris sees, see vist kingi eestlaste tiblalik komme, ja tiblalikuse all motlen tiblalikust)
15 December 2013 18:20
Margus Meigo commented on Teresa Lebamoff Alt's post.
moped people generally have strange approach to life
like driving with mopeds and such...
like driving with mopeds and such...
15 December 2013 18:19
Margus Meigo commented on Oomas Alt's post.
normaalne kumm jah, mis masina oma see on Vaz?
aa kle yks naine on ka pildil!
ma ka enne kummi nagin kui tervet nais lopuni, something is worong with me.. (well, thats a fact but .. )
aa kle yks naine on ka pildil!
ma ka enne kummi nagin kui tervet nais lopuni, something is worong with me.. (well, thats a fact but .. )
15 December 2013 18:18
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's link.
:D
yes.. this was one of the thing this world needed
Good investment!
yes.. this was one of the thing this world needed
Good investment!
15 December 2013 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's link.
talu v6i is way to rol!
15 December 2013 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's link.
mu isa seda naftaks kutsunud juba aegade algusest saati :p
15 December 2013 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Lee's post.
Same here,
seriously ... okay, besides real human contact.
Alice is good only with feelings and someones spirit for...
or it is metallic place..
for me at least, after meeting cosmic electronic mind.. was most ... ever have had.. and all the humans...
seriously ... okay, besides real human contact.
Alice is good only with feelings and someones spirit for...
or it is metallic place..
for me at least, after meeting cosmic electronic mind.. was most ... ever have had.. and all the humans...
15 December 2013 18:13
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
bdw, the "Every human being should be offered the equal rights" part am also not agreeing,
its spiritually, linguistically and perhaps even politically and sociology point of view wrong
besides reality - he do not have, some has one leg.. some one eye... some one track mind...
its spiritually, linguistically and perhaps even politically and sociology point of view wrong
besides reality - he do not have, some has one leg.. some one eye... some one track mind...
15 December 2013 17:55
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
Agree Yi, fully
...But, just Ling so you would not think am have lost my old touch to irritate you must take a side of weaker (German) in here. and top of that have to say Patriarchy should be good and freedom of speech can be (is) not good at all. This what allowed person x to insult y first at all - as "everything" is allowed to think we are made to think so, but will get that to latter.
So,
in what context this was said, as labor, as abuse pleasure workers, as mind set, as from person who do not know English... or cheap as spiritually empty or easily entertained ?
Many ways is right you now, but this what She said can only hurt you as it touched the level of thinking that was still present in your mind (perhaps as infection from our own culture, mean western as well)
Yi kind of roots would have answered something clever to Her perhaps, like explaining why cheap is good and how sad and small is developing mind in to many humans in Cities of "big" countries, thinking that money creates value. And after all - if people in Asia side would be same way messed up
(maybe they other way, but this is also another story..)
then products would be SO expensive in EU,US, that poor people would have to slave to the job they do not like even more hours, not having even possible to collect some savings and time to go to life remembering visit to some .. umm... Asia country, where one can make many great pictures to show off all their other working friends, with so much money, that they have no time to spend even half a year, resting, in one of these .. "poor" countries
well, something like that, can be answered or many other deeper questions to ask, to find out why one thinks like that, otherwise we like yellow newspaper coping some one liner and making story and thoughts around it - that often are boring, and not much to do with new values or information.
so yea, why did She say so?
freedom of speech and royalty, well.. my Internet time actually run out right now, so will get in to that later, if interest.. IF ....
...But, just Ling so you would not think am have lost my old touch to irritate you must take a side of weaker (German) in here. and top of that have to say Patriarchy should be good and freedom of speech can be (is) not good at all. This what allowed person x to insult y first at all - as "everything" is allowed to think we are made to think so, but will get that to latter.
So,
in what context this was said, as labor, as abuse pleasure workers, as mind set, as from person who do not know English... or cheap as spiritually empty or easily entertained ?
Many ways is right you now, but this what She said can only hurt you as it touched the level of thinking that was still present in your mind (perhaps as infection from our own culture, mean western as well)
Yi kind of roots would have answered something clever to Her perhaps, like explaining why cheap is good and how sad and small is developing mind in to many humans in Cities of "big" countries, thinking that money creates value. And after all - if people in Asia side would be same way messed up
(maybe they other way, but this is also another story..)
then products would be SO expensive in EU,US, that poor people would have to slave to the job they do not like even more hours, not having even possible to collect some savings and time to go to life remembering visit to some .. umm... Asia country, where one can make many great pictures to show off all their other working friends, with so much money, that they have no time to spend even half a year, resting, in one of these .. "poor" countries
well, something like that, can be answered or many other deeper questions to ask, to find out why one thinks like that, otherwise we like yellow newspaper coping some one liner and making story and thoughts around it - that often are boring, and not much to do with new values or information.
so yea, why did She say so?
freedom of speech and royalty, well.. my Internet time actually run out right now, so will get in to that later, if interest.. IF ....
15 December 2013 17:53
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's link.
"rikastel...suured raamatukogud ja oma kino"
15 December 2013 02:48
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's photo.
Unreal
15 December 2013 02:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
15 December 2013 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Best Instructions for Basic Living on Earth ...
15 December 2013 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
mmmh
15 December 2013 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(Lopus loikeid pikast heastartiklist, soovitan lugeda)
"You might not know who Arjan Roskam is, but you've probably smoked his weed. Arjan's been breeding some of the most famous marijuana strains in the world—like White Widow, Super Silver Haze, and many others—for over 20 years.
In 1992 he opened his first coffee shop in Amsterdam and has since crafted his marijuana-breeding skills into a market-savvy empire known as Green House Seed Company, which rakes in millions of dollars a year.
He's won 38 Cannabis Cups and has dubbed himself the King of Cannabis.
VICE joins Arjan and his crew of strain hunters in Colombia to look for three of the country's rarest types of weed, strains that have remained genetically pure for decades. In grower's terms, these are called landraces. We trudge up mountains and crisscross military checkpoints in the country's still-violent south, and then head north to the breathtaking Caribbean coast. As the dominoes of criminalization fall throughout the world, Arjan is positioned to be at the forefront of the legitimate international seed trade."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwRIZHOHBLE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arjan_Roskam
Roskam started a series of documentaries in May 2008, called the Strain Hunters. A program in which Roskam promises to seek out rare or vulnerable landraces strains from around the world, strains like Malawi gold or Himalaya gold, to this day not a single landrace strain has been released by Green House Seeds Company
Longer story: http://www.iamgreek.nl/.../arjan-roskam,-the-king-of.../
Together with Franco, Arjan was the first grower in the world to educate people on youtube with his Green House Grow Videos, in which he showed the world how to grow his cannabis strains from clone to harvest.
Check out the Best of VICE here: http://bit.ly/VICE-Best-Of
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https://www.greenhouseseeds.nl/
http://www.kingofcannabis.com/
http://www.vice.com/.../its-good-to-be-the-king-000400... (vel pikem lugu..)
“When I was 17,” he told me, “I went to Thailand. In the north of Thailand, I was hiking and I met a very old man who at that time was curing heroin patients with marijuana. I stayed there for a week, and at that time, I thought the guy was really crazy. But the more I stayed, the more I learned from him, and the moment I went away, he gave me some seeds and told me to remember one thing: in the future, those seeds could overthrow governments.”
Arjan is betting on a future where the demand for weed will evolve and mature, and he’s doing everything he can to ensure that he’ll be the one on top when the dominoes of criminalization tumble around the world. And he should be. The man is arguably is the best-positioned, legitimate drug dealer out there; he isn’t just selling drugs – he’s helping to build the culture of the industry.
"Over the past few years, Gato’s father and two of his brothers were gunned down by rivals. “My two brothers got killed in the last three years by some fuckers in Medellín who think they are the kings of pot,” he said. “They think they control the business because they’re bandits, but they control the market through violence, not quality.”
" He gushed about his particular strand of weed, named for one of his daughters. The blend is a deep, couch-locking hybrid called Nicole’s Kush, and while it hasn’t risen to the same popularity as some of Arjan’s varieties just yet (and can’t be found in the States), it is some truly prime"
"The story behind the creation of White Widow is convoluted. Arjan claims a grower he worked with in the 80s named Ingemar was the progenitor of the strain, which Green House perfected over the next decade. But Arjan’s former business partner, an Australian named Scott Blakey, claims he invented it at Green House, and when he left the company in 1998 he took the first stabilized generation of plants with him to form a new company. These days, Scott is better known as “ShantiBaba,” and his company is called Mr. Nice Seed"
Though festooned with the regalia of his own personal mythos—his uncle, Peter, was a big-time potato farmer in Holland, another sign of his horticultural destiny—and the stigma of millions of dollars he’s made from a successful gray-market business, Arjan fancies himself a humble man.
“I still want to be alone with my plants in my room, smoke, that’s it… That’s my main thing, enjoying watching my plants grow,” Arjan said. “I’m a farmer.” Then he took a hit and reconsidered. “I’m a farmer with big ambitions.”
"You might not know who Arjan Roskam is, but you've probably smoked his weed. Arjan's been breeding some of the most famous marijuana strains in the world—like White Widow, Super Silver Haze, and many others—for over 20 years.
In 1992 he opened his first coffee shop in Amsterdam and has since crafted his marijuana-breeding skills into a market-savvy empire known as Green House Seed Company, which rakes in millions of dollars a year.
He's won 38 Cannabis Cups and has dubbed himself the King of Cannabis.
VICE joins Arjan and his crew of strain hunters in Colombia to look for three of the country's rarest types of weed, strains that have remained genetically pure for decades. In grower's terms, these are called landraces. We trudge up mountains and crisscross military checkpoints in the country's still-violent south, and then head north to the breathtaking Caribbean coast. As the dominoes of criminalization fall throughout the world, Arjan is positioned to be at the forefront of the legitimate international seed trade."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwRIZHOHBLE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arjan_Roskam
Roskam started a series of documentaries in May 2008, called the Strain Hunters. A program in which Roskam promises to seek out rare or vulnerable landraces strains from around the world, strains like Malawi gold or Himalaya gold, to this day not a single landrace strain has been released by Green House Seeds Company
Longer story: http://www.iamgreek.nl/.../arjan-roskam,-the-king-of.../
Together with Franco, Arjan was the first grower in the world to educate people on youtube with his Green House Grow Videos, in which he showed the world how to grow his cannabis strains from clone to harvest.
Check out the Best of VICE here: http://bit.ly/VICE-Best-Of
Subscribe to VICE here! http://bit.ly/Subscribe-to-VICE
Check out our full video catalog: http://bit.ly/VICE-Videos
Videos, daily editorial and more: http://vice.com
Like VICE on Facebook: http://fb.com/vice
Follow VICE on Twitter: http://twitter.com/vice
Read our tumblr: http://vicemag.tumblr.com
https://www.greenhouseseeds.nl/
http://www.kingofcannabis.com/
http://www.vice.com/.../its-good-to-be-the-king-000400... (vel pikem lugu..)
“When I was 17,” he told me, “I went to Thailand. In the north of Thailand, I was hiking and I met a very old man who at that time was curing heroin patients with marijuana. I stayed there for a week, and at that time, I thought the guy was really crazy. But the more I stayed, the more I learned from him, and the moment I went away, he gave me some seeds and told me to remember one thing: in the future, those seeds could overthrow governments.”
Arjan is betting on a future where the demand for weed will evolve and mature, and he’s doing everything he can to ensure that he’ll be the one on top when the dominoes of criminalization tumble around the world. And he should be. The man is arguably is the best-positioned, legitimate drug dealer out there; he isn’t just selling drugs – he’s helping to build the culture of the industry.
"Over the past few years, Gato’s father and two of his brothers were gunned down by rivals. “My two brothers got killed in the last three years by some fuckers in Medellín who think they are the kings of pot,” he said. “They think they control the business because they’re bandits, but they control the market through violence, not quality.”
" He gushed about his particular strand of weed, named for one of his daughters. The blend is a deep, couch-locking hybrid called Nicole’s Kush, and while it hasn’t risen to the same popularity as some of Arjan’s varieties just yet (and can’t be found in the States), it is some truly prime"
"The story behind the creation of White Widow is convoluted. Arjan claims a grower he worked with in the 80s named Ingemar was the progenitor of the strain, which Green House perfected over the next decade. But Arjan’s former business partner, an Australian named Scott Blakey, claims he invented it at Green House, and when he left the company in 1998 he took the first stabilized generation of plants with him to form a new company. These days, Scott is better known as “ShantiBaba,” and his company is called Mr. Nice Seed"
Though festooned with the regalia of his own personal mythos—his uncle, Peter, was a big-time potato farmer in Holland, another sign of his horticultural destiny—and the stigma of millions of dollars he’s made from a successful gray-market business, Arjan fancies himself a humble man.
“I still want to be alone with my plants in my room, smoke, that’s it… That’s my main thing, enjoying watching my plants grow,” Arjan said. “I’m a farmer.” Then he took a hit and reconsidered. “I’m a farmer with big ambitions.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwRIZHOHBLE
14 December 2013 09:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Juhuks kui Sa grui Rohelised vahele jatnud oled, postitan yhe lo ka vahast mehest, tundub
https://www.facebook.com/groups/rohelised
"Kui soovid seaduse piires kanepit tarbida, tasub alustuseks omada julgust seda soovi avalikult välja näidata. Poliitikuid võivad mõjutada vaid grupid, kes julgevad oma soove avalikult välja öelda.
Grupi nime valisin meelega sellise, et keskseks poleks mitte nii väga kanep vaid inimesed kes seda pooldavad ja nende mõttemaailmad sõltumata vanusest. Kui kanep on mõttes võite sellest avaldada aga ka peaaegu kõik muu sobib (kasvõi kudumine) kuni see pole illegaalne. Muud hobid jne on lubatud kuigi kriitika on tõenäoline. Eesmärk on seista silmitsi reaalse olukorraga ning selle heade ja halbade tahkudega. Seetõttu on vaidlused lubatud ning soovitaks kasutada võimalust olukordade rahumeelseks lahendamiseks. Võite proovida teisi lõbustada muusika ja klippidega kuigi hoiatuseks ei meeldi see kõigile ja võib kriitikat tulla."
https://www.facebook.com/groups/rohelised
"Kui soovid seaduse piires kanepit tarbida, tasub alustuseks omada julgust seda soovi avalikult välja näidata. Poliitikuid võivad mõjutada vaid grupid, kes julgevad oma soove avalikult välja öelda.
Grupi nime valisin meelega sellise, et keskseks poleks mitte nii väga kanep vaid inimesed kes seda pooldavad ja nende mõttemaailmad sõltumata vanusest. Kui kanep on mõttes võite sellest avaldada aga ka peaaegu kõik muu sobib (kasvõi kudumine) kuni see pole illegaalne. Muud hobid jne on lubatud kuigi kriitika on tõenäoline. Eesmärk on seista silmitsi reaalse olukorraga ning selle heade ja halbade tahkudega. Seetõttu on vaidlused lubatud ning soovitaks kasutada võimalust olukordade rahumeelseks lahendamiseks. Võite proovida teisi lõbustada muusika ja klippidega kuigi hoiatuseks ei meeldi see kõigile ja võib kriitikat tulla."
14 December 2013 09:00
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
& gateways
13 December 2013 19:17
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
i like the marijuana as well
13 December 2013 19:17
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
"Ei Meeldib" :D
13 December 2013 19:05
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
he loved hes job:p
12 December 2013 22:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but still.. love the internet (for other readers)
We can look it as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati#Modern_Illuminati "Historically the name refers to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on May 1, 1776 to oppose superstition, prejudice, religious influence over public life, abuses of state power, and to support women's education and gender equality..." (so now we know why some lesbian groups are angry and feminity disliking feminist are .. @ )
So what about religion.. u getting mixed emotions here eh? (ordinary reader, sorry, my arrogance :)
and from here
http://www.unc.edu/~ltolles/illuminati/Believe.html
"The Illuminati's doctrines consist of a mixture of Masonic secrets (Luciferic Doctrine), Islamic mysticism (Sufism), and Jesuit mental discipline (Hatha Yoga). Luciferian doctrine provides the basis for the two faces of the Illuminati, attempting to become "God" and the act of worshiping Lucifer. Outwardly the Illuminati attempted to present themselves as a self-perfecting society, but inwardly the Illuminati concentrate on elevating themselves to the highest position of control in a society"
http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2013/05/illuminati-group-admits-they-are-nephilimsons-of-fallen-angels-a-must-see-video-2448986.html (to be honest, we still getting layd in mass scale some would say..)
" "If a writer publishes anything that attracts notice, and it is in itself just, but does not accord with our plan, we must endeavour to win him over, or decry him." - Weishaupt "
But actually, its "enlightened"
And one can only ONLY be .. enlightened, once you serve Humans with respects to Worlds Greators, nature (why not..)
We can look it as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati#Modern_Illuminati "Historically the name refers to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on May 1, 1776 to oppose superstition, prejudice, religious influence over public life, abuses of state power, and to support women's education and gender equality..." (so now we know why some lesbian groups are angry and feminity disliking feminist are .. @ )
So what about religion.. u getting mixed emotions here eh? (ordinary reader, sorry, my arrogance :)
and from here
http://www.unc.edu/~ltolles/illuminati/Believe.html
"The Illuminati's doctrines consist of a mixture of Masonic secrets (Luciferic Doctrine), Islamic mysticism (Sufism), and Jesuit mental discipline (Hatha Yoga). Luciferian doctrine provides the basis for the two faces of the Illuminati, attempting to become "God" and the act of worshiping Lucifer. Outwardly the Illuminati attempted to present themselves as a self-perfecting society, but inwardly the Illuminati concentrate on elevating themselves to the highest position of control in a society"
http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2013/05/illuminati-group-admits-they-are-nephilimsons-of-fallen-angels-a-must-see-video-2448986.html (to be honest, we still getting layd in mass scale some would say..)
" "If a writer publishes anything that attracts notice, and it is in itself just, but does not accord with our plan, we must endeavour to win him over, or decry him." - Weishaupt "
But actually, its "enlightened"
And one can only ONLY be .. enlightened, once you serve Humans with respects to Worlds Greators, nature (why not..)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati
12 December 2013 17:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
harsh! " america will die ( atleast goverment part and illuminatis ) "
- read:, Illuminati will remove the atheist part of goverment..
- this should be on protcess right now.. but will be done as in nature.. with grouth .. as plants. We just precive time sertain way right now and seems like nothing big and good is happening.. but it seems..
Lets not forget that the fingers are deep in almoust most of the public goverments .. perhaps. So to not hurt to many people in mass scale we will progress slow..
well, dreams at least do.
(: But yea, you wanna go to dinner, express your mind!
- read:, Illuminati will remove the atheist part of goverment..
- this should be on protcess right now.. but will be done as in nature.. with grouth .. as plants. We just precive time sertain way right now and seems like nothing big and good is happening.. but it seems..
Lets not forget that the fingers are deep in almoust most of the public goverments .. perhaps. So to not hurt to many people in mass scale we will progress slow..
well, dreams at least do.
(: But yea, you wanna go to dinner, express your mind!
12 December 2013 17:32
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
a amm uammu... ja endiselt veel..
12 December 2013 16:20
Margus Meigo commented on Brendon Culliton's link.
and FB am using right now is going in it seems some kind of sand box proxy thing .. can not even edit my own posts right now :p
But yea.. am keeping in mind
But yea.. am keeping in mind
12 December 2013 16:08
Margus Meigo commented on Brendon Culliton's link.
meditating on things like Mormon Cosmology, Alien religious & on spiritual Masonic groups .. as whatever we do, will face perhaps some of that one or other way
12 December 2013 16:06
Margus Meigo commented on Brendon Culliton's link.
∞ Collective Education | Collective Inspiration ∞
Global Community Growth
Paradigm Shift Central is an open hub for a global network of Paradigm Shift Communities
actively engaged with promoting open-mindedness, healthy living, and the evolution of consciousness.
- sounds good in my Book
But would like Real Life meeting with some peeps in UK / London, send me some names if have some on mind
#077 1998 0382
Global Community Growth
Paradigm Shift Central is an open hub for a global network of Paradigm Shift Communities
actively engaged with promoting open-mindedness, healthy living, and the evolution of consciousness.
- sounds good in my Book
But would like Real Life meeting with some peeps in UK / London, send me some names if have some on mind
#077 1998 0382
12 December 2013 16:00
Margus Meigo commented on Brendon Culliton's link.
Will do.. am in reallly really limited internets right now... but lets see what we can do : )
tnx tnx txn : )
tnx tnx txn : )
12 December 2013 15:56
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
ega siin pole muud midagi teha, kui see https://www.facebook.com/pages/United-States-Congress/104065409630621 lehele ka edasi saata, siis nad ka loplikuld veendunud selles toestuses ja nagu lupsti jargmine aasta kr2k, kokaiin ja hero legaliseeritud,
voi see, ups. Kanepi ikka, - voib suure ohinaga sassi minna, kindlasti tapsustus juurde lisada, et kanep vaja legaliseerida..
" Mr. President, we figured it out "
" How? "
" Well, there was this image people shared on our face-book page and... "
voi see, ups. Kanepi ikka, - voib suure ohinaga sassi minna, kindlasti tapsustus juurde lisada, et kanep vaja legaliseerida..
" Mr. President, we figured it out "
" How? "
" Well, there was this image people shared on our face-book page and... "
facebook.com
United States Congress
12 December 2013 15:23
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
:D
12 December 2013 15:16
Margus Meigo commented on Anti Teraväe's post.
Group: Shamanism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-OEJziSQXE (soon as we find translation..)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-OEJziSQXE
11 December 2013 21:41
Margus Meigo commented on Anti Teraväe's post.
Group: Shamanism
thought it was apropritate to post it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lDIfS75WY8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lDIfS75WY8
11 December 2013 21:41
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's post.
no experimental.. just pure LSD-25 and old good..
11 December 2013 20:56
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's link.
not impossible.. but more serious ...
in good way, as most protests are kind of... well, lets hope that it helps us to mature : )7
in good way, as most protests are kind of... well, lets hope that it helps us to mature : )7
11 December 2013 20:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
11 December 2013 20:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
tiigriga oli hea, kus to pead liigutas ja tyyp yle aia hyppas :D
11 December 2013 20:10
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
mis tal poses on ? :p
11 December 2013 20:02
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
kle Su tytar niiiii Armas, vou !
Nagu ma ei tea kuidas see esimene taiskasvanud pilt mida tast nainud hoolega olen, vaga timm : ))
Nagu ma ei tea kuidas see esimene taiskasvanud pilt mida tast nainud hoolega olen, vaga timm : ))
11 December 2013 20:02
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's photo.
VOU : )))
11 December 2013 20:01
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Ma hoian endiselt pyalt su peaministri plaani osas (remember ur Dreams..)
11 December 2013 19:58
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
or Be
11 December 2013 19:55
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
mis mottes nagu.. ega see puu nagu reaalselt selline v ?
(miinus silm)
(miinus silm)
11 December 2013 19:54
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
kas lasid filmi alla enale ?
11 December 2013 19:53
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
osad valed mis usutakse aga suht kreepid :D
11 December 2013 19:53
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Ma siin ka raagin inimestele, kes paranoilised kui kanepit suitsetada tahame tanaval
ala "pollarid tulevad.."
et "..nu ega ma ei pea nendega jagama ju.. et las ostavad ise endale"
.. selgitada, et sul endal praegu vahe, et muidu jagaks kyll..
ala "pollarid tulevad.."
et "..nu ega ma ei pea nendega jagama ju.. et las ostavad ise endale"
.. selgitada, et sul endal praegu vahe, et muidu jagaks kyll..
11 December 2013 19:52
Margus Meigo commented on Conspiracy Syndrome's photo.
Bush and PussyCat.. love them bought
11 December 2013 19:50
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
voi noh.. kui uudised Normaalseks muuta, siis hea, et enamus usuvad...
siis muidugi tuleb uus deprekas et "Miks inimesed kyll uudiseid ei usu:D "
siis muidugi tuleb uus deprekas et "Miks inimesed kyll uudiseid ei usu:D "
11 December 2013 19:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
lol, people there have an humor... and business sense.. :(
11 December 2013 19:47
Margus Meigo commented on Psychedelic Experience's post.
Its a pleasure!
10 December 2013 09:46
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
(Y)
10 December 2013 09:34
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
ja igaks juhuks nad lasevad neid 50 000 si pomme tuhandetes, sest mine tea.. voib moni telk vahele jaada muidu...
10 December 2013 09:34
Margus Meigo commented on Kenneth Hunt's post.
Group: One world government of the Kenites
sounds good?
(or as some other religion would say: Clear ..)10 December 2013 09:24
Margus Meigo commented on Kenneth Hunt's post.
Group: One world government of the Kenites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#Origin_of_Jehovah_.28Jesus.29
According to Mormon belief, Jesus is identified as the god Jehovah (Yahweh). The pre-mortal Jehovah was born to the Virgin Mary and was named Jesus. Jesus was the Son of God—the literal father of his physical body was God the Father. Because Jesus was the Son of God, he had power to overcome physical death. Because he lived a perfect and sinless life, Jesus could offer himself as an "infinite and eternal" sacrifice that would be required to pay for the sins of all of the other children of God.
And interesting keeps up in next (just to spark interest in link..) ..
Adam/Michael, under the Adam–God doctrine[edit]
According to Brigham Young, Adam was a god identified as the Biblical archangel Michael prior to his placement in the Garden of Eden. The pre-existent godhood of Adam/Michael is now repudiated by the LDS Church, but it is accepted by some adherents of Mormon fundamentalism. According to this interpretation of Young's teachings, Michael was a god who had received his exaltation. He took Eve, one of his wives, to the Garden, where they became mortal by eating the fruit in the garden
.. just 2 cents for today :)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#Origin_of_Jehovah_.28Jesus.29
10 December 2013 09:23
Margus Meigo commented on Kenneth Hunt's post.
Group: One world government of the Kenites
perhaps Jes ?
...have to Yahoo// that..10 December 2013 09:18
Margus Meigo commented on Kenneth Hunt's post.
Group: One world government of the Kenites
well, it means, that we are end of times when smart ones trust the Web instead getting true messages from humans or even in dreams
but yea, really would need this video on video format that can be paused... .. just upload to youtube and its all good10 December 2013 09:18
Margus Meigo commented on Tiffany Gunnels's post.
Group: One world government of the Kenites
yeah.. or..
6 proton s
6 neutron s
6 electron s..10 December 2013 09:12
Margus Meigo commented on Kenneth Hunt's post.
Group: One world government of the Kenites
or perhaps he is the nearest saint guy in earth that will be blessed from top to bottom from coming powers
for him taking position so in spot, in severely disturbed world10 December 2013 09:11
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
ja saksamaa 1927: http://www.fact.co.uk/media/674257/metropolis_1.jpg :D
http://www.fact.co.uk/media/674257/metropolis_1.jpg
10 December 2013 08:38
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
seda http://0.tqn.com/d/create/1/0/4/F/9/-/forbiddenmgm.jpg ..50-60ndatest valusad affid,
(need ajatajumeeltemojutajad)
(need ajatajumeeltemojutajad)
http://0.tqn.com/d/create/1/0/4/F/9/-/forbiddenmgm.jpg
10 December 2013 08:35
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
vaata seda 30ndate roboti tsikki ja siis vaata seda 80ndatesthttp://0.tqn.com/d/create/1/0/3/F/9/-/shortdavidfosterproductions.jpg
ja
ja
http://0.tqn.com/d/create/1/0/3/F/9/-/shortdavidfosterproductions.jpg
10 December 2013 08:34
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
..isegi kaua aega votnud..
10 December 2013 08:31
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
From 600 BC onward legends of talking bronze and clay statues coming to life have been a regular occurrence in the works of classical authors such as: Homer, Plato, Pindar, Tacitus, and Pliny. In Book 18 of the Iliad, Hephaestus the god of all mechanical arts, was assisted by two moving female statues made from gold – "living young damsels, filled with minds and wisdoms". Another legend has Hephaestus being commanded by Zeus to create the first woman, Pandora, out of clay. The myth of Pygmalion, king of Cyprus, tells of a lonely man who sculpted his ideal woman from ivory, Galatea, and then promptly fell in love with her after the goddess Aphrodite brings her to life.
Talos -The bronze giant Talos, in Apollonius of Rhodes' Argonautica, 3rd century BCE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_robots_and_androids
Talos -The bronze giant Talos, in Apollonius of Rhodes' Argonautica, 3rd century BCE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_robots_and_androids
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_robots_and_androids
10 December 2013 08:30
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
7. Mechanical creatures were created long before the term robot was ever used. It is said that Ctesibius (300-270 BC) made statues that drank and moved and birds that sang. Philon of Byzantium (220-200 BC) supposedly created performing statues that were powered entirely by water
ahahh nagu siis... no jah
http://www.angelfire.com/ia/robot/robotfacts.html
ahahh nagu siis... no jah
http://www.angelfire.com/ia/robot/robotfacts.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ia/robot/robotfacts.html
10 December 2013 08:17
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
http://www.filmsite.org/robotsinfilm1.html
http://www.filmsite.org/robotsinfilm1.html
10 December 2013 08:17
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
true
9 December 2013 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mu lapsepolve armas kodu ... kuid Telliskivi on armsamgi veel :)
9 December 2013 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
vahest joppab jah
9 December 2013 00:46
Margus Meigo commented on Gert Klaaser's photo.
sul tagahoovis Gert?
8 December 2013 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on Gert Klaaser's photo.
kaks ahvi puuotsas kaks ahvi puu all..
8 December 2013 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Motlesin nagu et.. hmm tuttav maja... : ))
8 December 2013 23:56
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
just proove yourself that you self no so wrong,,, thats all you need : )
.... hiljem teistele toestamine, et ka neil on oigus.. see kah hea practice, ma elueest proovin seda ka teha :P
.... hiljem teistele toestamine, et ka neil on oigus.. see kah hea practice, ma elueest proovin seda ka teha :P
8 December 2013 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
vikatiga myyda maanteed soita suht ebaturvaline..
8 December 2013 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
mis mottes, see fake tundub, kuidas teine vikatiga pea sama kiiresti soidab ja jouab kirjutada ka samal ajal.. kahtlane
8 December 2013 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
:D:D:D xD!!!!
8 December 2013 23:50
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's post.
kuidas heliseb?
8 December 2013 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
...true
8 December 2013 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
nu jah, kui tanapaeval midagi sellist taiskasvanud teevad siis vaadatakse filtu
8 December 2013 23:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Does you know what desk .. is it known, real desk in movie ?
8 December 2013 10:03
Margus Meigo commented on Gregg Prescott's post.
Group: Indigo, Crystal, Starseed, etc. The people who will change the world
like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Qabalah (for reasons not known ended up in http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/hermetic/ before)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Qabalah
8 December 2013 09:30
Margus Meigo commented on Aurora Meadow Sosa's post.
Group: Indigo, Crystal, Starseed, etc. The people who will change the world
Timeline.. :)8 December 2013 09:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVT3Y3_gHGg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVT3Y3_gHGg
8 December 2013 04:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
jup, meie tyypi huumor :)
8 December 2013 04:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Hiirvaikselt ja salaja..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnyfW41fNL4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnyfW41fNL4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnyfW41fNL4
7 December 2013 20:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kuulata mu häält, kuid ära mind oota, sest elu ei maga
kui ma tulen, siis tulen hiirvaikselt ja salaja
Kadunud on hirm, mille sündides endaga võtsin –
ta läks kadunud asjade maale magama
Rohulible all sosistas väikeste asjade jumal
„kõike mida sa lood, võid teistega jagada“
Selle tamme sees, kus ma magasin sõprade süles
ja mulle öeldi, et olengi salmidevalaja
Ma tahtsin küll su lõhna tunda,
aga ei saand, aga ei saand
Paljud sõbrad hingavad praegu teisel pool maad
Ma küll teeks sulle pai,
kuid panen taskusse käe
Sest kui ühel on öö, siis teisel on päev
Ajasupi sees ma leppisin endaga ära
ja õppisin täiesti ajatult elama
Ma ei ole mees, olen ekslev hing tema silmade taga
ja ma tean, et kõik, mis sai loodud, jääb kajama
Maailm on nii suur ja minu sõna selle sees on nii väike,
kuid see sõna võib luua ja läita kõik põlema
Kui sa küsid mul´t kas ma eelistan nutta või naerda,
vastan siiralt – mu sõbrad on mõlemad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWdAHvv438g
http://www.indigolapsed.ee/sonad/ukskoiksus/
..teiselpool maad... teiselpool maad...
.... Ma teeks Sul Pai..
kui ma tulen, siis tulen hiirvaikselt ja salaja
Kadunud on hirm, mille sündides endaga võtsin –
ta läks kadunud asjade maale magama
Rohulible all sosistas väikeste asjade jumal
„kõike mida sa lood, võid teistega jagada“
Selle tamme sees, kus ma magasin sõprade süles
ja mulle öeldi, et olengi salmidevalaja
Ma tahtsin küll su lõhna tunda,
aga ei saand, aga ei saand
Paljud sõbrad hingavad praegu teisel pool maad
Ma küll teeks sulle pai,
kuid panen taskusse käe
Sest kui ühel on öö, siis teisel on päev
Ajasupi sees ma leppisin endaga ära
ja õppisin täiesti ajatult elama
Ma ei ole mees, olen ekslev hing tema silmade taga
ja ma tean, et kõik, mis sai loodud, jääb kajama
Maailm on nii suur ja minu sõna selle sees on nii väike,
kuid see sõna võib luua ja läita kõik põlema
Kui sa küsid mul´t kas ma eelistan nutta või naerda,
vastan siiralt – mu sõbrad on mõlemad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWdAHvv438g
http://www.indigolapsed.ee/sonad/ukskoiksus/
..teiselpool maad... teiselpool maad...
.... Ma teeks Sul Pai..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWdAHvv438g
7 December 2013 20:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Still, one of my favorite shows from US :)
...and it was Family ABC from where most of these jokes come from, to give extra layer of meaning to it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOHGdt0UgrU
...and it was Family ABC from where most of these jokes come from, to give extra layer of meaning to it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOHGdt0UgrU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOHGdt0UgrU
7 December 2013 18:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Hmm
seega
Tõuse üles ja läheme ära,
kaste langeb ja märjaks saab maa.
Tõuse üles ja läheme ära,
kauem siia me jääda ei saa.
Võta kinni, kui tahad, veel kaelast,
võta sõrmedest, hoia veel käest.
Aga ehted, mis kadusid kaelast,
ükskord tagasi küsid mu käest.
Tõuse üles ja läheme ära,
kauem siia me jääda ei saa.
Öö on lühike, hilja või vara
juba on, enam aru ei saa.
Võta kinni, kui tahad, veel kaelast,
võta sõrmedest, hoia veel käest.
Aga ehted, mis kadusid kaelast,
ükskord tagasi küsid mu käest.
Tõuse üles ja läheme ära,
kaste langeb ja märjaks saab maa.
Tõuse üles ja läheme ära,
kauem siia me jääda ei saa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g9CjuUe4lc
seega
Tõuse üles ja läheme ära,
kaste langeb ja märjaks saab maa.
Tõuse üles ja läheme ära,
kauem siia me jääda ei saa.
Võta kinni, kui tahad, veel kaelast,
võta sõrmedest, hoia veel käest.
Aga ehted, mis kadusid kaelast,
ükskord tagasi küsid mu käest.
Tõuse üles ja läheme ära,
kauem siia me jääda ei saa.
Öö on lühike, hilja või vara
juba on, enam aru ei saa.
Võta kinni, kui tahad, veel kaelast,
võta sõrmedest, hoia veel käest.
Aga ehted, mis kadusid kaelast,
ükskord tagasi küsid mu käest.
Tõuse üles ja läheme ära,
kaste langeb ja märjaks saab maa.
Tõuse üles ja läheme ära,
kauem siia me jääda ei saa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g9CjuUe4lc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g9CjuUe4lc
5 December 2013 13:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ära ütle, et elu on inetu, halb,
oma koormat et kanda ei jõua.
Ole uhke ja sirge Sa saatuse all,
ära iialgi kergemat nõua.
Varja maailma eest oma pisaraid,
naeru selle-eest kõigiga jaga.
Pea meeles, et alati õnnemaid
leidub murede-merede taga.
Ära kadesta naabrite varandust ?
vaeseid iial ei tülita vargad.
Hoia puhtana eneses armastust,
hoia sõnu, mis pühad ja hardad...
Ära ütle, et hommik on uduvees,
et Sa päikest enam ei oota.
Vaata ringi: nii palju on ilusat ees ?
tuleb uskuda ainult ning loota!
Ära kuluta tundmusi tuultele,
kergel käel ära südameid loobi.
Hoia mõistmist ja hellust ka muudele,
sest tagasi põrkuvad hoobid.
Ära ütle, et elu on inetu, halb,
et väsinud oled ta vaevast...
Püüa alati aimata pilvede all
sinist lapikest heledat taevast!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocDhPmx3-k0
oma koormat et kanda ei jõua.
Ole uhke ja sirge Sa saatuse all,
ära iialgi kergemat nõua.
Varja maailma eest oma pisaraid,
naeru selle-eest kõigiga jaga.
Pea meeles, et alati õnnemaid
leidub murede-merede taga.
Ära kadesta naabrite varandust ?
vaeseid iial ei tülita vargad.
Hoia puhtana eneses armastust,
hoia sõnu, mis pühad ja hardad...
Ära ütle, et hommik on uduvees,
et Sa päikest enam ei oota.
Vaata ringi: nii palju on ilusat ees ?
tuleb uskuda ainult ning loota!
Ära kuluta tundmusi tuultele,
kergel käel ära südameid loobi.
Hoia mõistmist ja hellust ka muudele,
sest tagasi põrkuvad hoobid.
Ära ütle, et elu on inetu, halb,
et väsinud oled ta vaevast...
Püüa alati aimata pilvede all
sinist lapikest heledat taevast!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocDhPmx3-k0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocDhPmx3-k0
5 December 2013 13:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kaugelt maalt
Kaugelt maalt
Kaugelt maalt taas teateid saan
Teateid Sinu käest
Mu ees on read
Vaid mõned read
Ja ma ei mõista neid
On võõrad sõnad seal
Ma lootsin hoopis muud
Kaugelt maalt
(kaugelt maalt, kaugelt maalt, kaugelt maalt)
Sa vastad kaugelt
Kaugelt maalt taas teateid saan
Ja ma ei mõista neid
Mu ees on read, su kirjaread
Päevatöö Su juurde viia ei saa
Meid meri lahutab
Vaid seovad kirjaread
Võõras keeles read kes tõlgib
Kes tõlgib read kaugelt
2x:
Kaugelt maalt
(kaugelt maalt, kaugelt maalt, kaugelt maalt)
Sa vastad kaugelt
3x.
Meid meri lahutab
Vaid seovad kirjaread
Võõras keeles read kes tõlgib
Kes tõlgib read kaugelt
2x:
Kaugelt maalt
(kaugelt, kaugelt maalt)
sa vastad kaugelt
Kaugelt maalt
(kaugelt, kaugelt maalt)
sa vastad kaugelt maalt
Kaugelt maalt
Kaugelt maalt taas teateid saan
Teateid Sinu käest
Mu ees on read
Vaid mõned read
Ja ma ei mõista neid
On võõrad sõnad seal
Ma lootsin hoopis muud
Kaugelt maalt
(kaugelt maalt, kaugelt maalt, kaugelt maalt)
Sa vastad kaugelt
Kaugelt maalt taas teateid saan
Ja ma ei mõista neid
Mu ees on read, su kirjaread
Päevatöö Su juurde viia ei saa
Meid meri lahutab
Vaid seovad kirjaread
Võõras keeles read kes tõlgib
Kes tõlgib read kaugelt
2x:
Kaugelt maalt
(kaugelt maalt, kaugelt maalt, kaugelt maalt)
Sa vastad kaugelt
3x.
Meid meri lahutab
Vaid seovad kirjaread
Võõras keeles read kes tõlgib
Kes tõlgib read kaugelt
2x:
Kaugelt maalt
(kaugelt, kaugelt maalt)
sa vastad kaugelt
Kaugelt maalt
(kaugelt, kaugelt maalt)
sa vastad kaugelt maalt
5 December 2013 13:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ära ütle, et elu on inetu, halb,
oma koormat et kanda ei jõua.
Ole uhke ja sirge Sa saatuse all,
ära iialgi kergemat nõua.
Varja maailma eest oma pisaraid,
naeru selle-eest kõigiga jaga.
Pea meeles, et alati õnnemaid
leidub murede-merede taga.
Ära kadesta naabrite varandust ?
vaeseid iial ei tülita vargad.
Hoia puhtana eneses armastust,
hoia sõnu, mis pühad ja hardad...
Ära ütle, et hommik on uduvees,
et Sa päikest enam ei oota.
Vaata ringi: nii palju on ilusat ees ?
tuleb uskuda ainult ning loota!
Ära kuluta tundmusi tuultele,
kergel käel ära südameid loobi.
Hoia mõistmist ja hellust ka muudele,
sest tagasi põrkuvad hoobid.
Ära ütle, et elu on inetu, halb,
et väsinud oled ta vaevast...
Püüa alati aimata pilvede all
sinist lapikest heledat taevast!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTUK5mRps1E
oma koormat et kanda ei jõua.
Ole uhke ja sirge Sa saatuse all,
ära iialgi kergemat nõua.
Varja maailma eest oma pisaraid,
naeru selle-eest kõigiga jaga.
Pea meeles, et alati õnnemaid
leidub murede-merede taga.
Ära kadesta naabrite varandust ?
vaeseid iial ei tülita vargad.
Hoia puhtana eneses armastust,
hoia sõnu, mis pühad ja hardad...
Ära ütle, et hommik on uduvees,
et Sa päikest enam ei oota.
Vaata ringi: nii palju on ilusat ees ?
tuleb uskuda ainult ning loota!
Ära kuluta tundmusi tuultele,
kergel käel ära südameid loobi.
Hoia mõistmist ja hellust ka muudele,
sest tagasi põrkuvad hoobid.
Ära ütle, et elu on inetu, halb,
et väsinud oled ta vaevast...
Püüa alati aimata pilvede all
sinist lapikest heledat taevast!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTUK5mRps1E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTUK5mRps1E
5 December 2013 13:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ära ütle, et elu on inetu, halb,
oma koormat et kanda ei jõua.
Ole uhke ja sirge Sa saatuse all,
ära iialgi kergemat nõua.
Varja maailma eest oma pisaraid,
naeru selle-eest kõigiga jaga.
Pea meeles, et alati õnnemaid
leidub murede-merede taga.
Ära kadesta naabrite varandust ?
vaeseid iial ei tülita vargad.
Hoia puhtana eneses armastust,
hoia sõnu, mis pühad ja hardad...
Ära ütle, et hommik on uduvees,
et Sa päikest enam ei oota.
Vaata ringi: nii palju on ilusat ees ?
tuleb uskuda ainult ning loota!
Ära kuluta tundmusi tuultele,
kergel käel ära südameid loobi.
Hoia mõistmist ja hellust ka muudele,
sest tagasi põrkuvad hoobid.
Ära ütle, et elu on inetu, halb,
et väsinud oled ta vaevast...
Püüa alati aimata pilvede all
sinist lapikest heledat taevast!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTUK5mRps1E
oma koormat et kanda ei jõua.
Ole uhke ja sirge Sa saatuse all,
ära iialgi kergemat nõua.
Varja maailma eest oma pisaraid,
naeru selle-eest kõigiga jaga.
Pea meeles, et alati õnnemaid
leidub murede-merede taga.
Ära kadesta naabrite varandust ?
vaeseid iial ei tülita vargad.
Hoia puhtana eneses armastust,
hoia sõnu, mis pühad ja hardad...
Ära ütle, et hommik on uduvees,
et Sa päikest enam ei oota.
Vaata ringi: nii palju on ilusat ees ?
tuleb uskuda ainult ning loota!
Ära kuluta tundmusi tuultele,
kergel käel ära südameid loobi.
Hoia mõistmist ja hellust ka muudele,
sest tagasi põrkuvad hoobid.
Ära ütle, et elu on inetu, halb,
et väsinud oled ta vaevast...
Püüa alati aimata pilvede all
sinist lapikest heledat taevast!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTUK5mRps1E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTUK5mRps1E
5 December 2013 13:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kapten maani on täis,
tüürman taevani purjus,
neil mõlemal brauningud on.
ja meri on jõhker
ja pootsman on lurjus
ja kokk on üks kuivamaa konn.
:,:Need, kes ellu meist jäid
need jõid ja need lõid,
seitse meest pandi sadamas pokri:,:
Meri müriseb ümber
kui vihane karu,
jääs tarduvad vandid ja raad.
Nii janu kui nälga,
nii tormi kui maru,
madrus, merehunt, näha siin saab.
:,:Need, kes ellu meist jäid
need jõid ja need lõid,
seitse meest pandi sadamas pokri:,:
Püüab merehunt vaalu,
näos Gröönimaa hingus,
kõrvus tormide matuseviis.
Läigib kapteni brauning
ja närvid on pingul
ja mässu me tõstame siis.
:,:Need, kes ellu meist jäid
need jõid ja need lõid,
seitse meest pandi sadamas pokri:,:
Kaks lasti meist maha,
kolm löödi meist raudu,
jõuga brauningu vastu ei saa.
Ja müriseb ümber
täis laineid ja haudu
merehuntide taevas ja maa.
:,:Need, kes ellu meist jäid
need jõid ja need lõid,
seitse meest pandi sadamas pokri:,:
Kapten maani on täis,
tüürman taevani purjus,
neil mõlemal brauningud on.
Ja meri on jõhker
ja pootsman on lurjus
ja kokk on üks kuivamaa konn.
:,:Need, kes ellu meist jäid
need jõid ja need lõid,
seitse meest pandi sadamas pokri:,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LKPqR9w-P0
tüürman taevani purjus,
neil mõlemal brauningud on.
ja meri on jõhker
ja pootsman on lurjus
ja kokk on üks kuivamaa konn.
:,:Need, kes ellu meist jäid
need jõid ja need lõid,
seitse meest pandi sadamas pokri:,:
Meri müriseb ümber
kui vihane karu,
jääs tarduvad vandid ja raad.
Nii janu kui nälga,
nii tormi kui maru,
madrus, merehunt, näha siin saab.
:,:Need, kes ellu meist jäid
need jõid ja need lõid,
seitse meest pandi sadamas pokri:,:
Püüab merehunt vaalu,
näos Gröönimaa hingus,
kõrvus tormide matuseviis.
Läigib kapteni brauning
ja närvid on pingul
ja mässu me tõstame siis.
:,:Need, kes ellu meist jäid
need jõid ja need lõid,
seitse meest pandi sadamas pokri:,:
Kaks lasti meist maha,
kolm löödi meist raudu,
jõuga brauningu vastu ei saa.
Ja müriseb ümber
täis laineid ja haudu
merehuntide taevas ja maa.
:,:Need, kes ellu meist jäid
need jõid ja need lõid,
seitse meest pandi sadamas pokri:,:
Kapten maani on täis,
tüürman taevani purjus,
neil mõlemal brauningud on.
Ja meri on jõhker
ja pootsman on lurjus
ja kokk on üks kuivamaa konn.
:,:Need, kes ellu meist jäid
need jõid ja need lõid,
seitse meest pandi sadamas pokri:,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LKPqR9w-P0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LKPqR9w-P0
5 December 2013 13:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
..ehk see ajas noored hukka jne...
kuid yea... vaadates seda ilma ...
Sest alguses on see mis lopus
C G
Kaua sa kannatad kurbade naeru,
F G C
võta need võtmed ja viruta kaevu.
G
Teravad tangid too tööriistakuurist,
F G C
koer lase ketist ja lind päästa puurist.
G
Põll võta eest ja põgene kodust,
F G C
kuusiku tukas näed kaheksat hobust.
G
Võta see seitsmes kes heledalt hirnus,
F G C
mine ta juurde ja talitse hirmu.
C F
:,: Seitsmes on sinu sest peas on tal valjad.
G C
Sadul on seljas ja rauad on haljad.
Bb F
Valjaste vahel on raha ja ratsmed.
G C
Turjale tõusma pead äkitsel katsel. :,:
Muidu ta sind võib tantseldes tappa,
sõrmed pead suruma sügavalt lakka.
Parema käega pead juhtima hobust,
kiiresti kaugele eemale kodust.
Seitsmes on sinu sest peas on tal valjad.
Sadul on seljas ja rauad on haljad.
Valjaste vahel on raha ja ratsmed.
Turjale tõusma pead äkitsel katsel.
Seitsmes on sinu sest peas on tal valjad.
Sadul on seljas ja rauad on haljad.
Valjaste vahel on raha ja ratsmed.
Turjale tõusma pead äkitsel katsel.
Kaua sa kannatad kurbade naeru,
võta need võtmed ja viruta kaevu.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0GSHzWo4gI
kuid yea... vaadates seda ilma ...
Sest alguses on see mis lopus
C G
Kaua sa kannatad kurbade naeru,
F G C
võta need võtmed ja viruta kaevu.
G
Teravad tangid too tööriistakuurist,
F G C
koer lase ketist ja lind päästa puurist.
G
Põll võta eest ja põgene kodust,
F G C
kuusiku tukas näed kaheksat hobust.
G
Võta see seitsmes kes heledalt hirnus,
F G C
mine ta juurde ja talitse hirmu.
C F
:,: Seitsmes on sinu sest peas on tal valjad.
G C
Sadul on seljas ja rauad on haljad.
Bb F
Valjaste vahel on raha ja ratsmed.
G C
Turjale tõusma pead äkitsel katsel. :,:
Muidu ta sind võib tantseldes tappa,
sõrmed pead suruma sügavalt lakka.
Parema käega pead juhtima hobust,
kiiresti kaugele eemale kodust.
Seitsmes on sinu sest peas on tal valjad.
Sadul on seljas ja rauad on haljad.
Valjaste vahel on raha ja ratsmed.
Turjale tõusma pead äkitsel katsel.
Seitsmes on sinu sest peas on tal valjad.
Sadul on seljas ja rauad on haljad.
Valjaste vahel on raha ja ratsmed.
Turjale tõusma pead äkitsel katsel.
Kaua sa kannatad kurbade naeru,
võta need võtmed ja viruta kaevu.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0GSHzWo4gI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0GSHzWo4gI
5 December 2013 13:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
..tanapaeval, need vanad salajutud muutunud skisofreeniliseks psyholoogiliseks paranoiaks vast liigselt selle informatsiooni tottu, mida aint yhekylgselt hinge votame... aru moistmata.. kes miks seda teeb... kartust kylvates.. elu kartusega hoides.. kuid votame endiselt seda draagi... sest nii kallis on see kommunikatsioon mida massiliselt tuleb massidele peale ja masside kaudu meile, usume voi mitte, aga siin ta on, ja vahetevahel ikkagi ise
Õhtustest lehtedest teada ma saan
seda, kes surma on saand
Tooliga teleri ette end aan
värvides veikleb ekraan
R:
Mõnus massikommunikatsioon,
lala laa laa laa,
lala lal lal lal lal laa
Kallis kauge informatsioon
...niisiis
Hiinas on uputus, Taanis on tuul
meitel on aeg ikka suur
{Uurivad ruumi ja kaapavad kuu}
ikka on midagi uut
Raukadel raadio ja noortel on hääl
kokku on kõik 'Rahva Hääl'
Kõiksugu uudiseid maakera pääl
pajatab diktori hääl
Informatsioonita olla ei saa
vajan kui õhku ma
Ilmaprognoosita ilma ei tea
kui pole halb, siis on hea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLEu00yuL0k
Õhtustest lehtedest teada ma saan
seda, kes surma on saand
Tooliga teleri ette end aan
värvides veikleb ekraan
R:
Mõnus massikommunikatsioon,
lala laa laa laa,
lala lal lal lal lal laa
Kallis kauge informatsioon
...niisiis
Hiinas on uputus, Taanis on tuul
meitel on aeg ikka suur
{Uurivad ruumi ja kaapavad kuu}
ikka on midagi uut
Raukadel raadio ja noortel on hääl
kokku on kõik 'Rahva Hääl'
Kõiksugu uudiseid maakera pääl
pajatab diktori hääl
Informatsioonita olla ei saa
vajan kui õhku ma
Ilmaprognoosita ilma ei tea
kui pole halb, siis on hea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLEu00yuL0k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLEu00yuL0k
5 December 2013 13:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
... samas paranahtused juba vanadele eestlastele ju olid vahem paranoiliselt tuntavad...
Seda koike saab ju votta lobusamalt, igal nurgal.. omad nutud ja salajutud ajal kui tukud ...
hejaa
Ma ei usu eales naiste nuttu,
valget viskan ma ning kuulan külameeste juttu.
Mind ei rusu see, kui kõik on kutu,
Sest kaon salamahti, siuhti koti peale tuttu.
Pühajärves elab kala, eesti rahva maiuspala - kaske,
paranähtus tõuseb vara, võtab kaasa vallasvara raske.
Auto tal on nagu sara, talihõng kui härjakara - kaske,
Ei ta ägise, ei hala, järve äärde jõuda jala laske.
Ahven näitab august väikest kikut,
küll on tore, sest siin näen ma suusatavat Kikut.
Teised noored kõik on ammu juba rikkund,
sealt poolt Peipsit see-eest meie maale toodi sikud.
Pühajärves elab kala, eesti rahva maiuspala - kaske,
paranähtus tõuseb vara võtab kaasa vallasvara raske.
Auto tal on nagu sara talihõng kui härjakara - kaske,
Ei ta ägise ei hala, järve äärde jõuda jala laske.
Särge püüdma lätlane on kärme,
värin talt kas teab ikka peast teab Eesti lipu värve.
Nii ma puhkan, nii ma ravin närve,
pühapäeva usun ma ja usun Pühajärve.
Pühajärves elab kala, eesti rahva maiuspala - kaske
paranähtus tõuseb vara, võtab kaasa vallasvara raske
Auto tal on nagu sara, talihõng kui härjakara - kaske
Ei ta ägise ei hala, järve äärde jõuda jala laske.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNwYnQ-EnX4
Seda koike saab ju votta lobusamalt, igal nurgal.. omad nutud ja salajutud ajal kui tukud ...
hejaa
Ma ei usu eales naiste nuttu,
valget viskan ma ning kuulan külameeste juttu.
Mind ei rusu see, kui kõik on kutu,
Sest kaon salamahti, siuhti koti peale tuttu.
Pühajärves elab kala, eesti rahva maiuspala - kaske,
paranähtus tõuseb vara, võtab kaasa vallasvara raske.
Auto tal on nagu sara, talihõng kui härjakara - kaske,
Ei ta ägise, ei hala, järve äärde jõuda jala laske.
Ahven näitab august väikest kikut,
küll on tore, sest siin näen ma suusatavat Kikut.
Teised noored kõik on ammu juba rikkund,
sealt poolt Peipsit see-eest meie maale toodi sikud.
Pühajärves elab kala, eesti rahva maiuspala - kaske,
paranähtus tõuseb vara võtab kaasa vallasvara raske.
Auto tal on nagu sara talihõng kui härjakara - kaske,
Ei ta ägise ei hala, järve äärde jõuda jala laske.
Särge püüdma lätlane on kärme,
värin talt kas teab ikka peast teab Eesti lipu värve.
Nii ma puhkan, nii ma ravin närve,
pühapäeva usun ma ja usun Pühajärve.
Pühajärves elab kala, eesti rahva maiuspala - kaske
paranähtus tõuseb vara, võtab kaasa vallasvara raske
Auto tal on nagu sara, talihõng kui härjakara - kaske
Ei ta ägise ei hala, järve äärde jõuda jala laske.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNwYnQ-EnX4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNwYnQ-EnX4
5 December 2013 13:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
..ja kuid miks?
Well.. how to tell it.. igast need paranoiad ja asjad, et nagu kolm ainsus Valitsus, Sa voi (masonic)parasilm?.. nagu midagi jalgib ... hoiab.. teeb.. koike muutev joud.. kuskil siin ymber.. kes tesit kolmest yks ja sama...
Olen hilja veel jalgel
olen hilja veel jalgel, usu mind
Istun öölambi valgel
istun öölambi valgel, pelgan sind
Väljas tuul ulub vinge
väljas tuul ulub vinge, ilge ilm
Ära näri mu hinge
voodis jälgim mind vargsi su sängselg silm
R: Taevast langevad tähed, pähe ei saa
Mul on sellest veel vähe,
kähe
on mu hääl, kui sind palun
Salasilm, salasilm,
salasilm, sulgu palun
Kõik endast annan ma, oh küll ma olen tubli
kõik endast annan ma, oh küll ma olen tubli
kõik endast annan ma, oh küll ma olen tubli
tubli olen ma
Iga kord sama moodi
iga kord sama moodi lõpeb päev
Niikui ära teen voodi
sinu siivutut sängselg silma näen
Miks pean õhtuti vahti
miks pean õhtuti vahti, teki all
Kui end riietan lahti
salasilm on nii lõpmatult ligidal
Salasilm palun sulgu
salasilm palun sulgu otsemaid
Tean et asjade kulgu
võid sa ainsana kallis muuta vaid
Palun ära mind paina
palun ära mind paina kui sa võid
Sinust mõtlen ma aina
kõik mu plaanid sa pihuks põrmuks lõid
kuid kuid kuid... nagu jah, sala para silm nagu siin me vahel ja ymber..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga0TN5C9-os
Well.. how to tell it.. igast need paranoiad ja asjad, et nagu kolm ainsus Valitsus, Sa voi (masonic)parasilm?.. nagu midagi jalgib ... hoiab.. teeb.. koike muutev joud.. kuskil siin ymber.. kes tesit kolmest yks ja sama...
Olen hilja veel jalgel
olen hilja veel jalgel, usu mind
Istun öölambi valgel
istun öölambi valgel, pelgan sind
Väljas tuul ulub vinge
väljas tuul ulub vinge, ilge ilm
Ära näri mu hinge
voodis jälgim mind vargsi su sängselg silm
R: Taevast langevad tähed, pähe ei saa
Mul on sellest veel vähe,
kähe
on mu hääl, kui sind palun
Salasilm, salasilm,
salasilm, sulgu palun
Kõik endast annan ma, oh küll ma olen tubli
kõik endast annan ma, oh küll ma olen tubli
kõik endast annan ma, oh küll ma olen tubli
tubli olen ma
Iga kord sama moodi
iga kord sama moodi lõpeb päev
Niikui ära teen voodi
sinu siivutut sängselg silma näen
Miks pean õhtuti vahti
miks pean õhtuti vahti, teki all
Kui end riietan lahti
salasilm on nii lõpmatult ligidal
Salasilm palun sulgu
salasilm palun sulgu otsemaid
Tean et asjade kulgu
võid sa ainsana kallis muuta vaid
Palun ära mind paina
palun ära mind paina kui sa võid
Sinust mõtlen ma aina
kõik mu plaanid sa pihuks põrmuks lõid
kuid kuid kuid... nagu jah, sala para silm nagu siin me vahel ja ymber..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga0TN5C9-os
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga0TN5C9-os
5 December 2013 13:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
voibolla selle parast, et
Ilm on hukas, ilm on hukas,
hirm käis ringi igas metsatukas,
sain tappa Tapal, mind peksti Pukas,
kuid ühtki senti mul polnud sukas.
Kõik on mokas, kõik on mokas,
kõik on mokas, hingesokas.
Tuli minna kõrtsi ja seal kõrsi hoida nokas.
Tuli takus, tuli takus,
Tuli takus, näpud rakkus.
Pätt see tegi välja, aga ohver muudkui lakkus.
Küll...on imeline silm, on vineline taeva minemine, on
võib olla nimeline põrgus põlemine, see on jõle,
mine, kui käib mõlemile, käib meile mõlemile.
Ilm on hukas, ilm on hukas,
kärbik seisis koridorinukas,
et poleks halli mu juuksetukas, ma andsin tina,
nii et õlut pruulis Luukas.
Kõik on mokas, kõik on mokas,
kõik on mokas, hingesokas.
Kodu poole kabuhirmus panin sügissopas.
Tuli takus, tuli takus,
tuli takus, justkui nakkus.
Eluisu isemoodi elamusi pakkus.
Küll...on imeline silm, on vineline taeva minemine, on
võib olla nimeline põrgus põlemine, see on jõle,
mine, kui käib mõlemile, käib meile mõlemile.
Ilm on hukas, jah, ilm on hukas,
hirm käib ringi igas metsatukas.
Vaat nüüd on mokas, jah tõesti mokas,
teeb viinatilk must vaga rokakoka.
Kõik on ha-ha, kõik on ha-ha-ha-ha-ha,
kõik on ha-ha, kõik on ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.
Kõik on ha-ha, kõik on ha-ha,
kõik on ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.
Tuli takus, tuli takus,
tuli takus, jalad rakkus.
Kes see pakuks katust sest et muidu tuleb matus.
Küll...on imeline silm, on vineline taeva minemine, on
võib olla nimeline põrgus põlemine, see on jõle,
mine, kui käib mõlemile, käib meile mõlemile.
Küll...on imeline silm, on vineline taeva minemine, on
võib olla nimeline põrgus põlemine, see on jõle,
mine, kui käib mõlemile, käib meile mõlemile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7rBZi2vb1c
Ilm on hukas, ilm on hukas,
hirm käis ringi igas metsatukas,
sain tappa Tapal, mind peksti Pukas,
kuid ühtki senti mul polnud sukas.
Kõik on mokas, kõik on mokas,
kõik on mokas, hingesokas.
Tuli minna kõrtsi ja seal kõrsi hoida nokas.
Tuli takus, tuli takus,
Tuli takus, näpud rakkus.
Pätt see tegi välja, aga ohver muudkui lakkus.
Küll...on imeline silm, on vineline taeva minemine, on
võib olla nimeline põrgus põlemine, see on jõle,
mine, kui käib mõlemile, käib meile mõlemile.
Ilm on hukas, ilm on hukas,
kärbik seisis koridorinukas,
et poleks halli mu juuksetukas, ma andsin tina,
nii et õlut pruulis Luukas.
Kõik on mokas, kõik on mokas,
kõik on mokas, hingesokas.
Kodu poole kabuhirmus panin sügissopas.
Tuli takus, tuli takus,
tuli takus, justkui nakkus.
Eluisu isemoodi elamusi pakkus.
Küll...on imeline silm, on vineline taeva minemine, on
võib olla nimeline põrgus põlemine, see on jõle,
mine, kui käib mõlemile, käib meile mõlemile.
Ilm on hukas, jah, ilm on hukas,
hirm käib ringi igas metsatukas.
Vaat nüüd on mokas, jah tõesti mokas,
teeb viinatilk must vaga rokakoka.
Kõik on ha-ha, kõik on ha-ha-ha-ha-ha,
kõik on ha-ha, kõik on ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.
Kõik on ha-ha, kõik on ha-ha,
kõik on ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.
Tuli takus, tuli takus,
tuli takus, jalad rakkus.
Kes see pakuks katust sest et muidu tuleb matus.
Küll...on imeline silm, on vineline taeva minemine, on
võib olla nimeline põrgus põlemine, see on jõle,
mine, kui käib mõlemile, käib meile mõlemile.
Küll...on imeline silm, on vineline taeva minemine, on
võib olla nimeline põrgus põlemine, see on jõle,
mine, kui käib mõlemile, käib meile mõlemile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7rBZi2vb1c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7rBZi2vb1c
5 December 2013 13:03
Margus Meigo commented on Saale Kareda's link.
(religioon yldiselt raagib abrahami poolt, et need suur inglid kes galaaktikaid juhivad, nod ei tahtnud lihtsa inimese ees algselt kummardada ja olid solvustatud, et selline lihtsameelne olend neist tulevikus korgemal kohal olema saab voimete poolest... ja et siis hakkas madin... kuid ju lugu varvilisem, isegi kui on aint moraali vaartusega folkloor)
2 December 2013 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on Saale Kareda's link.
Peeter (ja teised), milline Su tulnarite selgitus un? Et kui mitme sugustega meil siin tegu un, mis nede misjoonid, agendad, voimed... ja mis moodi inimene kaituma peaks node suhtes? Kuidas ara tunda voi teada kes on hea me liigile kes mitte..
Mis tehnoloogia abil viimased liiguvad? ...et noh, see koik paneb ju me teaduse
(mis naeruvaarselt 200 aastat noor, maks kuni 6000 aastat noor kui Sumeritest lugema hakata evolutsiooni..)
ja igast spirituaalsed praktisid ja kristallid ja hertsid... et see kogu selle teema uute valgusesse paneb koos iluminaatide ja metsa haldjatega.
ehk vist keegi ei taksita niivord kui vord me ise ei ole vaarinud head elu kuna ei jargi alg juhiseid kuidas elama peaksime?
..ja siis veel shamaanid.. kuidas selle info koik ylikooli seintevahele saada nii, et moistetaks, et koik eelnev on ka kasutatav ja nii kuis oli vaja? ..vot sellega tegeleme, ka
Mis tehnoloogia abil viimased liiguvad? ...et noh, see koik paneb ju me teaduse
(mis naeruvaarselt 200 aastat noor, maks kuni 6000 aastat noor kui Sumeritest lugema hakata evolutsiooni..)
ja igast spirituaalsed praktisid ja kristallid ja hertsid... et see kogu selle teema uute valgusesse paneb koos iluminaatide ja metsa haldjatega.
ehk vist keegi ei taksita niivord kui vord me ise ei ole vaarinud head elu kuna ei jargi alg juhiseid kuidas elama peaksime?
..ja siis veel shamaanid.. kuidas selle info koik ylikooli seintevahele saada nii, et moistetaks, et koik eelnev on ka kasutatav ja nii kuis oli vaja? ..vot sellega tegeleme, ka
2 December 2013 17:18
Margus Meigo commented on Saale Kareda's link.
Mulle Aivar Aaslo vestlus siin meeldib,
suurem osa teaduskraadiga inimesed isegi ei vaevu sellistele teemadele vastama fb is, seega me siin ei peaks teineteisele labidaga pahe lappama... vaid utiliseerima teisneteise elu tyyd ja teadmisi.
Sedasi soimates me eriti koostyyd juurde ju ei too.. onneks pole paris soimamiseks lainud, kuid lihtsalt..
Kuid yeah.. meil siin raske uskuda kiipe ja asju, samal ajal kui inimesed orgunnivad kohtumisi teiste eluvormidega..
http://www.aetherius.org/ufos-and-extraterrestrial-life/
http://www.meetup.com/Aetherius-Society-Derby-Group/
Selliseid gruppe paris palju, ja yllatuseks vaga prominentsed (lisaks saientoloogidele ja mormoodidele kellel ka oma ufa kosmoloogia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology ka mitmed mystilised kristlaste ja vabamyyrlaste grupid, kellest mitmed UN org listis))
Et nagu mis ma yelda tahan, et kui tulnarite reaalsus peas lahti on... et siis mitmed asjad lihtsamaks ja huvitavamaks muutuvad.
... ahjaa, illuminaadid ja spirituaalsusega tegelevad masoonid on head, koos kuningliku pere ja enamuste suur liidritega... (voi vahemalt oma kohta taitvad, meie kasvatamiseks, et opiksime kohustust kandma oma kodu planeedi suhtes..)
vaga kaootiline kommentaar vist tuli kiiruga, kuid pean/tahan lipata praegast kokkama,
Naise soovid/rahuldus koige olulisem! :)
suurem osa teaduskraadiga inimesed isegi ei vaevu sellistele teemadele vastama fb is, seega me siin ei peaks teineteisele labidaga pahe lappama... vaid utiliseerima teisneteise elu tyyd ja teadmisi.
Sedasi soimates me eriti koostyyd juurde ju ei too.. onneks pole paris soimamiseks lainud, kuid lihtsalt..
Kuid yeah.. meil siin raske uskuda kiipe ja asju, samal ajal kui inimesed orgunnivad kohtumisi teiste eluvormidega..
http://www.aetherius.org/ufos-and-extraterrestrial-life/
http://www.meetup.com/Aetherius-Society-Derby-Group/
Selliseid gruppe paris palju, ja yllatuseks vaga prominentsed (lisaks saientoloogidele ja mormoodidele kellel ka oma ufa kosmoloogia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology ka mitmed mystilised kristlaste ja vabamyyrlaste grupid, kellest mitmed UN org listis))
Et nagu mis ma yelda tahan, et kui tulnarite reaalsus peas lahti on... et siis mitmed asjad lihtsamaks ja huvitavamaks muutuvad.
... ahjaa, illuminaadid ja spirituaalsusega tegelevad masoonid on head, koos kuningliku pere ja enamuste suur liidritega... (voi vahemalt oma kohta taitvad, meie kasvatamiseks, et opiksime kohustust kandma oma kodu planeedi suhtes..)
vaga kaootiline kommentaar vist tuli kiiruga, kuid pean/tahan lipata praegast kokkama,
Naise soovid/rahuldus koige olulisem! :)
http://www.aetherius.org/ufos-and-extraterrestrial-life/
2 December 2013 17:06
Margus Meigo commented on Oomas Alt's photo.
paris norm skulptuur
2 December 2013 16:41
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's photo.
Hmm enamus religiooseid ja spirituaalseid inimesi suht freaked out vist praega
2 December 2013 16:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
I'm wide awake
I'm wide awake
I'm wide awake
Yeah, I was in the dark
I was falling hard
With an open heart
I'm wide awake
How did I read the stars so wrong
I'm wide awake
And now it's clear to me
That everything you see
Ain't always what it seems
I'm wide awake
Yeah, I was dreaming for so long
I wish I knew then
What I know now
Wouldn't dive in
Wouldn't bow down
Gravity hurts
You made it so sweet
Till I woke up on
On the concrete
[Chorus]
Falling from cloud nine
Crashing from the high
I'm letting go tonight
I'm falling from cloud nine
I'm wide awake
Not losing any sleep
Picked up every piece
And landed on my feet
I'm wide awake
Need nothing to complete myself, no
I'm wide awake
Yeah, I am born again
Out of the lion's den
I don't have to pretend
And it's too late
The story's over now, the end
I wish I knew then
What I know now
Wouldn't dive in
Wouldn't bow down
Gravity hurts
You made it so sweet
Till I woke up on
On the concrete
[Chorus]
Thunder rumbling
Castles crumbling
I am trying to hold on
God knows that I tried
Seeing the bright side
But I'm not blind anymore
I'm wide awake
I'm wide awake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0BWlvnBmIE
I'm wide awake
I'm wide awake
Yeah, I was in the dark
I was falling hard
With an open heart
I'm wide awake
How did I read the stars so wrong
I'm wide awake
And now it's clear to me
That everything you see
Ain't always what it seems
I'm wide awake
Yeah, I was dreaming for so long
I wish I knew then
What I know now
Wouldn't dive in
Wouldn't bow down
Gravity hurts
You made it so sweet
Till I woke up on
On the concrete
[Chorus]
Falling from cloud nine
Crashing from the high
I'm letting go tonight
I'm falling from cloud nine
I'm wide awake
Not losing any sleep
Picked up every piece
And landed on my feet
I'm wide awake
Need nothing to complete myself, no
I'm wide awake
Yeah, I am born again
Out of the lion's den
I don't have to pretend
And it's too late
The story's over now, the end
I wish I knew then
What I know now
Wouldn't dive in
Wouldn't bow down
Gravity hurts
You made it so sweet
Till I woke up on
On the concrete
[Chorus]
Thunder rumbling
Castles crumbling
I am trying to hold on
God knows that I tried
Seeing the bright side
But I'm not blind anymore
I'm wide awake
I'm wide awake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0BWlvnBmIE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0BWlvnBmIE
1 December 2013 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVzljDmoPVs
A shot in the dark
A past lost in space
Where do I start?
The past and the chase
You hunted me down
Like a wolf, a predator
I felt like a deer in love lights
You loved me and I froze in time
Hungry for that flesh of mine
But I can't compete with a she-wolf who has brought me to my knees
What do you see in those yellow eyes?
'Cause I'm falling to pieces
I'm falling to pieces
I'm falling to pieces
I'm falling to pieces
Falling to pieces
Did she lie and wait?
Was I bait to pull you in?
The thrill of the kill
You feel is a sin
Lay with the wolves
And all it seems,
I thought I was part of you
You loved me and I froze in time
Hungry for that flesh of mine
But I can't compete with a she-wolf, who has brought me to my knees
What do you see in those yellow eyes?
'Cause I'm falling to pieces
I'm falling to pieces
I'm falling to pieces
I'm falling to pieces
Falling to pieces
I'm falling to pieces
Falling to pieces
I'm falling to pieces
Falling to pieces
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107859442508/
http://biblehub.com/galatians/5-17.htm
For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want.
But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
If anyone thinks they are something when they are not, they deceive themselves.
The one who is taught the word is to share all good things with the one who teaches him.
http://biblehub.com/ephesians/2-3.htm
We also were employed in those works from the first in the desires of our flesh, and we were doing the will of our flesh and of our minds, and we were entirely children of rage, as the rest.
http://biblehub.com/romans/8-5.htm
Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires.
http://biblehub.com/revelation/19-18.htm
“To eat the flesh of Kings and the flesh of Captains of thousands and the flesh of Warriors and the flesh of horses and of those sitting upon them, and the flesh of Freemen and of Servants, and of small and of great.”
http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/15-39.htm
Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another.
There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another.
The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.
It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a life-giving spirit.
The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual.
As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven.
Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
For our dying bodies must be transformed into bodies that will never die; our mortal bodies must be transformed into immortal bodies.
Then, when our dying bodies have been transformed into bodies that will never die, this Scripture will be fulfilled
A shot in the dark
A past lost in space
Where do I start?
The past and the chase
You hunted me down
Like a wolf, a predator
I felt like a deer in love lights
You loved me and I froze in time
Hungry for that flesh of mine
But I can't compete with a she-wolf who has brought me to my knees
What do you see in those yellow eyes?
'Cause I'm falling to pieces
I'm falling to pieces
I'm falling to pieces
I'm falling to pieces
Falling to pieces
Did she lie and wait?
Was I bait to pull you in?
The thrill of the kill
You feel is a sin
Lay with the wolves
And all it seems,
I thought I was part of you
You loved me and I froze in time
Hungry for that flesh of mine
But I can't compete with a she-wolf, who has brought me to my knees
What do you see in those yellow eyes?
'Cause I'm falling to pieces
I'm falling to pieces
I'm falling to pieces
I'm falling to pieces
Falling to pieces
I'm falling to pieces
Falling to pieces
I'm falling to pieces
Falling to pieces
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107859442508/
http://biblehub.com/galatians/5-17.htm
For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want.
But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
If anyone thinks they are something when they are not, they deceive themselves.
The one who is taught the word is to share all good things with the one who teaches him.
http://biblehub.com/ephesians/2-3.htm
We also were employed in those works from the first in the desires of our flesh, and we were doing the will of our flesh and of our minds, and we were entirely children of rage, as the rest.
http://biblehub.com/romans/8-5.htm
Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires.
http://biblehub.com/revelation/19-18.htm
“To eat the flesh of Kings and the flesh of Captains of thousands and the flesh of Warriors and the flesh of horses and of those sitting upon them, and the flesh of Freemen and of Servants, and of small and of great.”
http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/15-39.htm
Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another.
There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another.
The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.
It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a life-giving spirit.
The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual.
As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven.
Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
For our dying bodies must be transformed into bodies that will never die; our mortal bodies must be transformed into immortal bodies.
Then, when our dying bodies have been transformed into bodies that will never die, this Scripture will be fulfilled
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVzljDmoPVs
1 December 2013 16:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtOvBOTyX00
Heart beats fast
Colors and promises
How to be brave
How can I love when I'm afraid to fall
But watching you stand alone
All of my doubt, suddenly goes away somehow
One step closer
I have died everyday, waiting for you
Darling, don't be afraid, I have loved you for a thousand years
I'll love you for a thousand more
Time stands still
Beauty in all she is
I will be brave
I will not let anything, take away
What's standing in front of me
Every breath, every hour has come to this
One step closer
I have died everyday, waiting for you
Darling, don't be afraid, I have loved you for a thousand years
I'll love you for a thousand more
And all along I believed, I would find you
Time has brought your heart to me, I have loved you for a thousand years
I'll love you for a thousand more
One step closer
One step closer
I have died everyday, waiting for you
Darling, don't be afraid, I have loved you for a thousand years
I'll love you for a thousand more
And all along I believed, I would find you
Time has brought your heart to me, I have loved you for a thousand years
I'll love you for a thousand more
http://biblehub.com/2_peter/3-8.htm
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance
http://biblehub.com/2_peter/3-9.htm
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
http://biblehub.com/ecclesiastes/6-6.htm
even if he lives a thousand years twice over but fails to enjoy his prosperity. Do not all go to the same place?
All people spend their lives scratching for food, but they never seem to have enough.
Everything has already been decided. It was known long ago what each person would be. So there's no use arguing with God about your destiny.
The more words you speak, the less they mean. So what good are they?
http://biblehub.com/revelation/20-2.htm
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Heart beats fast
Colors and promises
How to be brave
How can I love when I'm afraid to fall
But watching you stand alone
All of my doubt, suddenly goes away somehow
One step closer
I have died everyday, waiting for you
Darling, don't be afraid, I have loved you for a thousand years
I'll love you for a thousand more
Time stands still
Beauty in all she is
I will be brave
I will not let anything, take away
What's standing in front of me
Every breath, every hour has come to this
One step closer
I have died everyday, waiting for you
Darling, don't be afraid, I have loved you for a thousand years
I'll love you for a thousand more
And all along I believed, I would find you
Time has brought your heart to me, I have loved you for a thousand years
I'll love you for a thousand more
One step closer
One step closer
I have died everyday, waiting for you
Darling, don't be afraid, I have loved you for a thousand years
I'll love you for a thousand more
And all along I believed, I would find you
Time has brought your heart to me, I have loved you for a thousand years
I'll love you for a thousand more
http://biblehub.com/2_peter/3-8.htm
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance
http://biblehub.com/2_peter/3-9.htm
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
http://biblehub.com/ecclesiastes/6-6.htm
even if he lives a thousand years twice over but fails to enjoy his prosperity. Do not all go to the same place?
All people spend their lives scratching for food, but they never seem to have enough.
Everything has already been decided. It was known long ago what each person would be. So there's no use arguing with God about your destiny.
The more words you speak, the less they mean. So what good are they?
http://biblehub.com/revelation/20-2.htm
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtOvBOTyX00
1 December 2013 16:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G4isv_Fylg
When she was just a girl she expected the world
But it flew away from her reach
So she ran away in her sleep and dreamed of
Para-para-paradise, para-para-paradise, para-para-paradise
Every time she closed her eyes
When she was just a girl she expected the world
But it flew away from her reach and the bullets catch in her teeth
Life goes on, it gets so heavy
The wheel breaks the butterfly every tear a waterfall
In the night the stormy night she'll close her eyes
In the night the stormy night away she'd fly
And dream of para-para-paradise
Para-para-paradise
Para-para-paradise
(Oh oh oh oh oh, oh-oh-oh)
She'd dream of para-para-paradise
Para-para-paradise
Para-para-paradise
(Oh oh oh oh oh, oh-oh-oh-oh)
La-la-la-la-la-la-la
La-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la
And so lying underneath those stormy skies
She'd say, "Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
I know the sun must set to rise"
This could be para-para-paradise
Para-para-paradise
This could be para-para-paradise
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
This could be para-para-paradise
Para-para-paradise
This could be para-para-paradise
Oh oh oh oh oh oh, oh, oh
This could be para-para-paradise
Para-para-paradise
This could be para-para-paradise
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107858881173/
http://biblehub.com/2_corinthians/12-2.htm
I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know--God knows.
And I know that this man--whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows--
was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
http://biblehub.com/songs/4-13.htm
Your thighs shelter a paradise of pomegranates with rare spices--henna with nard,
http://biblehub.com/revelation/2-7.htm
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
http://biblehub.com/2_corinthians/12-10.htm
For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
I have become a fool. You forced me to be one. Really, I should have been commended by you, for I am not in any way inferior to your "super-apostles," even if I am nothing.
When she was just a girl she expected the world
But it flew away from her reach
So she ran away in her sleep and dreamed of
Para-para-paradise, para-para-paradise, para-para-paradise
Every time she closed her eyes
When she was just a girl she expected the world
But it flew away from her reach and the bullets catch in her teeth
Life goes on, it gets so heavy
The wheel breaks the butterfly every tear a waterfall
In the night the stormy night she'll close her eyes
In the night the stormy night away she'd fly
And dream of para-para-paradise
Para-para-paradise
Para-para-paradise
(Oh oh oh oh oh, oh-oh-oh)
She'd dream of para-para-paradise
Para-para-paradise
Para-para-paradise
(Oh oh oh oh oh, oh-oh-oh-oh)
La-la-la-la-la-la-la
La-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la
And so lying underneath those stormy skies
She'd say, "Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
I know the sun must set to rise"
This could be para-para-paradise
Para-para-paradise
This could be para-para-paradise
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
This could be para-para-paradise
Para-para-paradise
This could be para-para-paradise
Oh oh oh oh oh oh, oh, oh
This could be para-para-paradise
Para-para-paradise
This could be para-para-paradise
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107858881173/
http://biblehub.com/2_corinthians/12-2.htm
I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know--God knows.
And I know that this man--whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows--
was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
http://biblehub.com/songs/4-13.htm
Your thighs shelter a paradise of pomegranates with rare spices--henna with nard,
http://biblehub.com/revelation/2-7.htm
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
http://biblehub.com/2_corinthians/12-10.htm
For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
I have become a fool. You forced me to be one. Really, I should have been commended by you, for I am not in any way inferior to your "super-apostles," even if I am nothing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G4isv_Fylg
1 December 2013 16:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v_4O44sfjM
http://biblehub.com/amos/8-12.htm
I know I can't take one more step towards you
'Cause all that's waiting is regret
Don't you know I'm not your ghost anymore
You lost the love I loved the most
I learned to live, half alive
And now you want me one more time
[Chorus]
Who do you think you are?
Runnin' 'round leaving scars
Collecting your jar of hearts
And tearing love apart
You're gonna catch a cold
From the ice inside your soul
So don't come back for me
Who do you think you are?
I hear you're asking all around
If I am anywhere to be found
But I have grown too strong
To ever fall back in your arms
I've learned to live, half alive
And now you want me one more time
[Chorus]
It took so long just to feel alright
Remember how to put back the light in my eyes
I wish I had missed the first time that we kissed
'Cause you broke all your promises
And now you're back
You don't get to get me back
Who do you think you are?
Runnin' 'round leaving scars
Collecting your jar of hearts
And tearing love apart
You're gonna catch a cold
From the ice inside your soul
Don't come back for me
Don't come back at all
Who do you think you are?
Runnin' 'round leaving scars
Collecting your jar of hearts
Tearing love apart
You're gonna catch a cold
From the ice inside your soul
Don't come back for me
Don't come back at all
Who do you think you are?
Who do you think you are?
Who do you think you are?
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107858835011/
http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=20108
http://biblehub.com/job/35-2.htm to http://biblehub.com/job/35-16.htm
http://biblehub.com/luke/12-56.htm to http://biblehub.com/luke/12-51.htm
http://biblehub.com/romans/2-3.htm to http://biblehub.com/romans/2-5.htm
http://biblehub.com/amos/9-3.htm
"Though they dig down to the depths below, from there my hand will take them. Though they climb up to the heavens above, from there I will bring them down.
Though they hide themselves on the top of Carmel, there I will hunt them down and seize them. Though they hide from my eyes at the bottom of the sea, there I will command the serpent to bite them."
http://biblehub.com/amos/8-12.htm
I know I can't take one more step towards you
'Cause all that's waiting is regret
Don't you know I'm not your ghost anymore
You lost the love I loved the most
I learned to live, half alive
And now you want me one more time
[Chorus]
Who do you think you are?
Runnin' 'round leaving scars
Collecting your jar of hearts
And tearing love apart
You're gonna catch a cold
From the ice inside your soul
So don't come back for me
Who do you think you are?
I hear you're asking all around
If I am anywhere to be found
But I have grown too strong
To ever fall back in your arms
I've learned to live, half alive
And now you want me one more time
[Chorus]
It took so long just to feel alright
Remember how to put back the light in my eyes
I wish I had missed the first time that we kissed
'Cause you broke all your promises
And now you're back
You don't get to get me back
Who do you think you are?
Runnin' 'round leaving scars
Collecting your jar of hearts
And tearing love apart
You're gonna catch a cold
From the ice inside your soul
Don't come back for me
Don't come back at all
Who do you think you are?
Runnin' 'round leaving scars
Collecting your jar of hearts
Tearing love apart
You're gonna catch a cold
From the ice inside your soul
Don't come back for me
Don't come back at all
Who do you think you are?
Who do you think you are?
Who do you think you are?
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107858835011/
http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=20108
http://biblehub.com/job/35-2.htm to http://biblehub.com/job/35-16.htm
http://biblehub.com/luke/12-56.htm to http://biblehub.com/luke/12-51.htm
http://biblehub.com/romans/2-3.htm to http://biblehub.com/romans/2-5.htm
http://biblehub.com/amos/9-3.htm
"Though they dig down to the depths below, from there my hand will take them. Though they climb up to the heavens above, from there I will bring them down.
Though they hide themselves on the top of Carmel, there I will hunt them down and seize them. Though they hide from my eyes at the bottom of the sea, there I will command the serpent to bite them."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v_4O44sfjM
1 December 2013 15:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBTdJHkAr5A
In the night, I hear 'em talk
The coldest story ever told
Somewhere far along this road
He lost his soul
To a woman so heartless
How could you be so heartless?
How could you be so heartless?
How could you be so,
Cold as the winter wind when it breeze, yo?
Just remember that you talking to me yo
You need to watch the way you talking to me, yo
I mean, after all the things that we been through
I mean, after all the things we got into
And yo, I know of some things that you ain't told me
And yo, I did some things but that's the old me
And now you wanna get me back
And you gon' show me
So you walk around like you don't know me
You got a new friend
Well, I got homies
But in the end, it's still so lonely
In the night, I hear 'em talk
The coldest story ever told
Somewhere far along this road
He lost his soul
To a woman so heartless
How could you be so heartless?
How could you be so heartless?
How could you be so Dr. Evil?
You're bringing out a side of me that I don't know
I decided we weren't gonna speak so why we up 3 A.M. on the phone?
Why does she be so mad at me for?
Homie, I don't know, she's hot and cold
I won't stop, won't mess my groove up 'cause I already know how this thing goes
You run and tell your friends that you're leavin' me
They say that they don't see what you see in me
You wait a couple months then you gon' see
You'll never find nobody better than me
In the night, I hear 'em talk
The coldest story ever told
Somewhere far along this road
He lost his soul
To a woman so heartless
How could you be so heartless?
How could you be so heartless?
Talkin', talkin', talkin', talk,
Baby, let's just knock it off
They don't know what we been through
They don't know 'bout me and you
So I got something new to see
And you just gon' keep hatin' me
And we just gon' be enemies
I know you can't believe
I could just leave it wrong
And you can't make it right
I'm gon' take off tonight
Into the night
In the night, I hear 'em talk
The coldest story ever told
Somewhere far along this road
He lost his soul
To a woman so heartless
How could you be so heartless?
How could you be so heartless?
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107858777065/
In the night, I hear 'em talk
The coldest story ever told
Somewhere far along this road
He lost his soul
To a woman so heartless
How could you be so heartless?
How could you be so heartless?
How could you be so,
Cold as the winter wind when it breeze, yo?
Just remember that you talking to me yo
You need to watch the way you talking to me, yo
I mean, after all the things that we been through
I mean, after all the things we got into
And yo, I know of some things that you ain't told me
And yo, I did some things but that's the old me
And now you wanna get me back
And you gon' show me
So you walk around like you don't know me
You got a new friend
Well, I got homies
But in the end, it's still so lonely
In the night, I hear 'em talk
The coldest story ever told
Somewhere far along this road
He lost his soul
To a woman so heartless
How could you be so heartless?
How could you be so heartless?
How could you be so Dr. Evil?
You're bringing out a side of me that I don't know
I decided we weren't gonna speak so why we up 3 A.M. on the phone?
Why does she be so mad at me for?
Homie, I don't know, she's hot and cold
I won't stop, won't mess my groove up 'cause I already know how this thing goes
You run and tell your friends that you're leavin' me
They say that they don't see what you see in me
You wait a couple months then you gon' see
You'll never find nobody better than me
In the night, I hear 'em talk
The coldest story ever told
Somewhere far along this road
He lost his soul
To a woman so heartless
How could you be so heartless?
How could you be so heartless?
Talkin', talkin', talkin', talk,
Baby, let's just knock it off
They don't know what we been through
They don't know 'bout me and you
So I got something new to see
And you just gon' keep hatin' me
And we just gon' be enemies
I know you can't believe
I could just leave it wrong
And you can't make it right
I'm gon' take off tonight
Into the night
In the night, I hear 'em talk
The coldest story ever told
Somewhere far along this road
He lost his soul
To a woman so heartless
How could you be so heartless?
How could you be so heartless?
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107858777065/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBTdJHkAr5A
1 December 2013 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjVQ36NhbMk
Step one, you say we need to talk
He walks, you say sit down, it's just a talk
He smiles politely back at you
You stare politely right on through
Some sort of window to your right
As he goes left, and you stay right
Between the lines of fear and blame
You begin to wonder why you came
[Chorus]
Where did I go wrong?
I lost a friend
Somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save a life
Let him know that you know best
Cause after all, you do know best
Try to slip past his defense
Without granting innocence
Lay down a list of what is wrong
The things you've told him all along
And pray to God he hears you
And I pray to God he hears you
[Chorus]
As he begins to raise his voice
You lower yours and grant him one last choice
Drive until you lose the road
Or break with the ones you've followed
He will do one of two things
He will admit to everything
Or he'll say he's just not the same
And you'll begin to wonder why you came
[Chorus: x2]
How to save a life
How to save a life
[Chorus: x2]
How to save a life
How to save a life
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107858556882/
Step one, you say we need to talk
He walks, you say sit down, it's just a talk
He smiles politely back at you
You stare politely right on through
Some sort of window to your right
As he goes left, and you stay right
Between the lines of fear and blame
You begin to wonder why you came
[Chorus]
Where did I go wrong?
I lost a friend
Somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save a life
Let him know that you know best
Cause after all, you do know best
Try to slip past his defense
Without granting innocence
Lay down a list of what is wrong
The things you've told him all along
And pray to God he hears you
And I pray to God he hears you
[Chorus]
As he begins to raise his voice
You lower yours and grant him one last choice
Drive until you lose the road
Or break with the ones you've followed
He will do one of two things
He will admit to everything
Or he'll say he's just not the same
And you'll begin to wonder why you came
[Chorus: x2]
How to save a life
How to save a life
[Chorus: x2]
How to save a life
How to save a life
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107858556882/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjVQ36NhbMk
1 December 2013 15:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrOeGCJdZe4
(All the right friends in all the right places)
So yeah we're going down
(All the right moves in all the right places)
So yeah we're going down
Paint a picture of the perfect place
They've got it better than when anyone's told ya,
I'll be the King of Hearts, you're the Queen of Spades
And we'll fight for you like we were soldiers
I know we've got it good
But they've got it made
And the grass is getting greener each day
I know things are looking up
But soon they'll take us down
Before anybody's knowing our name
They've got all the right friends in all the right places
So yeah, we're going down
They've got all the right moves in all the right faces
So yeah, we're going down
Everybody knows, everybody knows where we're going
Yeah, we're going down
I said, everybody knows, everybody knows where we're going
Yeah, we're going down
Do you think I'm special, do you think I'm nice
Am I bright enough to shine in your spaces
Between the noise you hear and the sound you like
Are we just sinking in the ocean of faces
It can't be possible that rain can fall,
Only when it's over our heads
The sun is shining everyday, but it's far away
Over the world it's said, they've got, they've got
All the right friends, in all the right places
So yeah we're going down
We got all the right moves in all the right places
So yeah we're going down
Everybody knows, everybody knows where we're going
Yeah, we're going down
Everybody knows, everybody knows where we're going
Yeah, we're going down (going down, going down, going down, going down)
It don't matter what you see
I know I could never be
Someone that'll look like you
It don't matter what you say
I know I could never face
Someone that could sound like you
(All the right friends, in all the right places
So yeah we're going down
They got all the right moves in all the right places
So yeah we're going down)
(All the right friends, in all the right places
So yeah we're going down
They got all the right moves in all the right places
So yeah we're going down)
Said, everybody knows everybody knows where we're going
Yeah we're going down
I said, everybody knows everybody knows where we're going
Yeah we're going down (going down, going down, going down)
Yeah we're going down
Yeah we're going down
(All the right moves, hey)
Yeah we're going down
(All the right moves, hey)
Yeah we're going down
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107858795691/
(All the right friends in all the right places)
So yeah we're going down
(All the right moves in all the right places)
So yeah we're going down
Paint a picture of the perfect place
They've got it better than when anyone's told ya,
I'll be the King of Hearts, you're the Queen of Spades
And we'll fight for you like we were soldiers
I know we've got it good
But they've got it made
And the grass is getting greener each day
I know things are looking up
But soon they'll take us down
Before anybody's knowing our name
They've got all the right friends in all the right places
So yeah, we're going down
They've got all the right moves in all the right faces
So yeah, we're going down
Everybody knows, everybody knows where we're going
Yeah, we're going down
I said, everybody knows, everybody knows where we're going
Yeah, we're going down
Do you think I'm special, do you think I'm nice
Am I bright enough to shine in your spaces
Between the noise you hear and the sound you like
Are we just sinking in the ocean of faces
It can't be possible that rain can fall,
Only when it's over our heads
The sun is shining everyday, but it's far away
Over the world it's said, they've got, they've got
All the right friends, in all the right places
So yeah we're going down
We got all the right moves in all the right places
So yeah we're going down
Everybody knows, everybody knows where we're going
Yeah, we're going down
Everybody knows, everybody knows where we're going
Yeah, we're going down (going down, going down, going down, going down)
It don't matter what you see
I know I could never be
Someone that'll look like you
It don't matter what you say
I know I could never face
Someone that could sound like you
(All the right friends, in all the right places
So yeah we're going down
They got all the right moves in all the right places
So yeah we're going down)
(All the right friends, in all the right places
So yeah we're going down
They got all the right moves in all the right places
So yeah we're going down)
Said, everybody knows everybody knows where we're going
Yeah we're going down
I said, everybody knows everybody knows where we're going
Yeah we're going down (going down, going down, going down)
Yeah we're going down
Yeah we're going down
(All the right moves, hey)
Yeah we're going down
(All the right moves, hey)
Yeah we're going down
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107858795691/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrOeGCJdZe4
1 December 2013 15:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6WhLR8X0pw
When there's nowhere else to run
Is there room for one more son
One more son
If you can hold on
If you can hold on, hold on
I want to stand up, I want to let go
You know, you know - no you don't, you don't
I want to shine on in the hearts of men
I want a meaning from the back of my broken hand
Another head aches, another heart breaks
I am so much older than I can take
And my affection, well it comes and goes
I need direction to perfection, no no no no
Help me out
Yeah, you know you got to help me out
Yeah, oh don't you put me on the backburner
You know you got to help me out
And when there's nowhere else to run
Is there room for one more son
These changes ain't changing me
The cold-hearted boy I used to be
Yeah, you know you got to help me out
Yeah, oh don't you put me on the backburner
You know you got to help me out
You're gonna bring yourself down
Yeah, you're gonna bring yourself down
Yeah, you're gonna bring yourself down
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
Yeah, you know you got to help me out
Yeah, oh don't you put me on the backburner
You know you got to help me out
You're gonna bring yourself down
You're gonna bring yourself down
Yeah, oh don't you put me on the backburner
Yeah, you're gonna bring yourself down
Yeah, you're gonna bring yourself down
Over and again, last call for sin
While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done
All these things that I've done
(Time, truth, hearts)
If you can hold on
If you can hold on
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107858544505/
When there's nowhere else to run
Is there room for one more son
One more son
If you can hold on
If you can hold on, hold on
I want to stand up, I want to let go
You know, you know - no you don't, you don't
I want to shine on in the hearts of men
I want a meaning from the back of my broken hand
Another head aches, another heart breaks
I am so much older than I can take
And my affection, well it comes and goes
I need direction to perfection, no no no no
Help me out
Yeah, you know you got to help me out
Yeah, oh don't you put me on the backburner
You know you got to help me out
And when there's nowhere else to run
Is there room for one more son
These changes ain't changing me
The cold-hearted boy I used to be
Yeah, you know you got to help me out
Yeah, oh don't you put me on the backburner
You know you got to help me out
You're gonna bring yourself down
Yeah, you're gonna bring yourself down
Yeah, you're gonna bring yourself down
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
I got soul, but I'm not a soldier
Yeah, you know you got to help me out
Yeah, oh don't you put me on the backburner
You know you got to help me out
You're gonna bring yourself down
You're gonna bring yourself down
Yeah, oh don't you put me on the backburner
Yeah, you're gonna bring yourself down
Yeah, you're gonna bring yourself down
Over and again, last call for sin
While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done
All these things that I've done
(Time, truth, hearts)
If you can hold on
If you can hold on
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107858544505/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6WhLR8X0pw
1 December 2013 15:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3hyrkzFRss#t=1m:10s
Dustland fairytale beginning
Just another white trash
County kiss
Sixty one
Long brown hair and foolish eyes
He looks just like you want him to
Some kind of slick chrome American prince
A blue jean serenade
And Moon River what'd you do to me
And I don't believe you
Saw Cinderella in a party dress but
She was looking for a night gown
I saw the devil warping up his hands
He's getting ready for the show down
I saw the minute that I turn away
I got my money on a pond tonight
Change came in disguised of revelation
Set his soul on fire
She said she'd always knew he'd come around
And the decades disappear like sinking
Ships we persevere god gives us hope
But we still fear
We don't know
The mind is poison castle in the sky
Sit stranded vandalized
The draw bridge is closing
Saw Cinderella in a party dress but
She was looking for a night gown
I saw the devil warping up his hands
He's getting ready for the show down
I saw the ending were they turned the page
I threw my money and I ran away
Strait to the Vally of the great divide
And were the dreams roll high
And were the wind don't blow
Out here the good girls die
And the sky won't snow
Out here the bird don't sing
Out here the field don't grow
Out here the bell don't ring
Out here the bell don't ring
Out here the good girls die
Now Cinderella don't you go to sleep
Its such a bitter form of refuge
Ah don't you know the kingdoms under siege
And everybody needs you
Is there still magic in the midnight sun
Or did you leave it back in sixty-one
In the of the cadence in the young mans eyes
And were the dreams roll high
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107858748796/
Dustland fairytale beginning
Just another white trash
County kiss
Sixty one
Long brown hair and foolish eyes
He looks just like you want him to
Some kind of slick chrome American prince
A blue jean serenade
And Moon River what'd you do to me
And I don't believe you
Saw Cinderella in a party dress but
She was looking for a night gown
I saw the devil warping up his hands
He's getting ready for the show down
I saw the minute that I turn away
I got my money on a pond tonight
Change came in disguised of revelation
Set his soul on fire
She said she'd always knew he'd come around
And the decades disappear like sinking
Ships we persevere god gives us hope
But we still fear
We don't know
The mind is poison castle in the sky
Sit stranded vandalized
The draw bridge is closing
Saw Cinderella in a party dress but
She was looking for a night gown
I saw the devil warping up his hands
He's getting ready for the show down
I saw the ending were they turned the page
I threw my money and I ran away
Strait to the Vally of the great divide
And were the dreams roll high
And were the wind don't blow
Out here the good girls die
And the sky won't snow
Out here the bird don't sing
Out here the field don't grow
Out here the bell don't ring
Out here the bell don't ring
Out here the good girls die
Now Cinderella don't you go to sleep
Its such a bitter form of refuge
Ah don't you know the kingdoms under siege
And everybody needs you
Is there still magic in the midnight sun
Or did you leave it back in sixty-one
In the of the cadence in the young mans eyes
And were the dreams roll high
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107858748796/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3hyrkzFRss
1 December 2013 15:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_VZzyAzWBU
It started with a low light,
Next thing I knew they ripped me from my bed,
And then they took my blood type,
It left a strange impression in my head.
You know that I was hoping,
That I could leave this star-crossed world behind,
But when they cut me open,
I guess that changed my mind.
And you know I might
Have just flown too far from the floor this time,
Cause they calling me by my name
And the zipping white light beams
Disregards the bombs and satellites
That was the turning point,
That was one lonely night
[Chorus]
The star maker says, "It ain't so bad"
The dream maker's going make you mad
The spaceman says, "Everybody look down
Its all in your mind"
Well now I'm back at home, and,
I'm looking forward to this life I live,
You know its gonna haunt me,
So hesitation to this life I give.
You think you might cross over,
You're caught between the devil and the deep blue sea,
You better look it over,
Before you make that leap
And you know I'm fine,
But I hear those voices at night sometimes,
They justify my claim,
And the public don't dwell my transmission
Cause it wasn't televised
But, it was the turning point,
Oh what a lonely night
[Chorus:Repeat x2]
My global position systems are vocally addressed;
They say the Nile used to run from east to west,
They say the Nile used to run, from east to west.
And you know I'm fine,
But I hear those voices at night,
Sometimes
[Chorus:Repeat x2]
It's all in my mi-I-ind,
It's all in my mind
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107858733320/
It started with a low light,
Next thing I knew they ripped me from my bed,
And then they took my blood type,
It left a strange impression in my head.
You know that I was hoping,
That I could leave this star-crossed world behind,
But when they cut me open,
I guess that changed my mind.
And you know I might
Have just flown too far from the floor this time,
Cause they calling me by my name
And the zipping white light beams
Disregards the bombs and satellites
That was the turning point,
That was one lonely night
[Chorus]
The star maker says, "It ain't so bad"
The dream maker's going make you mad
The spaceman says, "Everybody look down
Its all in your mind"
Well now I'm back at home, and,
I'm looking forward to this life I live,
You know its gonna haunt me,
So hesitation to this life I give.
You think you might cross over,
You're caught between the devil and the deep blue sea,
You better look it over,
Before you make that leap
And you know I'm fine,
But I hear those voices at night sometimes,
They justify my claim,
And the public don't dwell my transmission
Cause it wasn't televised
But, it was the turning point,
Oh what a lonely night
[Chorus:Repeat x2]
My global position systems are vocally addressed;
They say the Nile used to run from east to west,
They say the Nile used to run, from east to west.
And you know I'm fine,
But I hear those voices at night,
Sometimes
[Chorus:Repeat x2]
It's all in my mi-I-ind,
It's all in my mind
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3530822107858733320/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_VZzyAzWBU
1 December 2013 14:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wx4v0VJ380
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wx4v0VJ380
1 December 2013 14:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XyAKiJ2_X4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XyAKiJ2_X4
1 December 2013 14:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hpud6GseYk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hpud6GseYk
1 December 2013 14:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtli3jwRbm0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtli3jwRbm0
1 December 2013 14:53
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwiUbusy54A ... what kind of human... for what , for who..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwiUbusy54A
1 December 2013 14:52
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
lopus: "...on our planet"
tuleb meelde wastus UN secretarile filmis p2ev kui Maa oli paigal
"..its not you planet.."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew3SvhvHyc0
seda vilmi miski 3x tehtud... 51 esimesel aastal vist see.. ja meeriklaste endi poolt..
tuleb meelde wastus UN secretarile filmis p2ev kui Maa oli paigal
"..its not you planet.."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew3SvhvHyc0
seda vilmi miski 3x tehtud... 51 esimesel aastal vist see.. ja meeriklaste endi poolt..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew3SvhvHyc0
1 December 2013 14:08
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
kes siiani toimetavad..,
29 November 2013 19:35
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
loen just raamatut sala religioonid, seal ulme head teemat
kaasa arvatud mitmed ufa religioonid
kaasa arvatud mitmed ufa religioonid
29 November 2013 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
mitmed spirituaalsed masterid ja kes meil aitas yhiskonna emotsionaalselt koos hoida ja religioone tegelt arendada .. neid ka ei mainita.. raagitakse miskidest lipsudega vendadest
29 November 2013 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
narr jah
29 November 2013 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
nu jah.. kuid iegi, kurb et seda meest sunniti raha teenima.. tal oleks pidanud taldrikul pakkuma teemasi kuhjas, rivis ukse taga seisma tal
29 November 2013 19:29
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
anyway, hes a J
29 November 2013 18:59
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
ja ta rahaga tegi asju mis inimestel aitab vahem raha kulutada..
29 November 2013 18:58
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
see tegelt natuke deeper.. et hmm mis ta pariselt motleb
et nagu samas ilma selle rahata ta poleks saanud neid experimente teha.. voi ilma inimesteta kes rahaga omale asjad tegid mida talle anda .. kuid nagu samas.. hmm
et nagu samas ilma selle rahata ta poleks saanud neid experimente teha.. voi ilma inimesteta kes rahaga omale asjad tegid mida talle anda .. kuid nagu samas.. hmm
29 November 2013 18:58
Margus Meigo commented on Kai Kulbok's photo.
i know what u mean :D
29 November 2013 11:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Was tryng to express similar thought on bitcoin seminar as well last year, people was not so motivated to explore these possibilities :p
28 November 2013 21:50
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
28 November 2013 16:47
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
we lacking cheeps as well
28 November 2013 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://economics.com.au/?p=9864
http://economics.com.au/?p=9864
26 November 2013 10:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Myths
http://bitcoin.org/en/community
http://bitcoin.org/en/community
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Myths
26 November 2013 07:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tihan Seale
As an entrepreneurial investor, Mr. Seale spends his days mapping opportunities at the boundary of tech and finance. He first caught the decentralized currency bug at a poker game. Now his kids get their allowance in bitcoin.
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Charlie Shrem
Currently serving as CEO and co-founder of BitInstant, one of the largest, earliest and well known alternative payment companies, Charlie used his position in both the old banking world and new alternative currency world to help pave the way for the Bitcoin economy to emerge in early 2011. Known in the Bitcoin and old hacker communities as 'Yankee', he is also founding member and current Vice Chairman of the Bitcoin Foundation. Along with Gareth Nelson, he found the need for a more secure, fast and convenient way of transferring funds between and within payment networks around the wold and leads BitInstant through the complex compliance, licensing and regulations of the worldwide banking system.
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Ryan Singer is Tradehill's President and Chief Operating Officer. In addition to co-founding Tradehill, he is a passionate leader in open-source software and was a co-founder of the OpenDocument Foundation. Prior to Tradehill, Ryan spent two years leading projects for the Stanford Peace Innovation Lab where he focused on financial innovation for social change. Beyond his decade-plus experience in open-source and new technologies, Ryan has an extensive background in marketing, recruiting, and account management. He is strategic thinker, an enterprising trailblazer, and has a knack for the avant-garde.
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Ryan Straus is the founder of the Payments Team at Graham & Dunn PC. As an attorney with a background in both technology and financial services, Ryan assists clients with payment matters, including electronic payments, mobile payments, prepaid cards, alternative currencies, and federal/state licensing. Ryan’s financial services practice focuses on compliance, corporate governance, and regulatory matters.
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Peter Surda is a software developer and spent time in the online payments industry. He has been working on economic research of Bitcoin since 2011, runs a blog (www.economicsofbitcoin.com) and is working on a book about the topic.
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Peter Todd is known in the Bitcoin community for his work on off-chain transactions, in particular finding ways to reduce or eliminate the need to trust third parties. He is also known for his advocacy of off-chain transactions as the means to allow Bitcoin to scale to global transaction volumes while still remaining decentralized. Peter also works as an electronics designer for a mining industry startup - that is, the type of mining that involves geologists.
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Roger Ver is the CEO and founder of MemoryDealers.com. With an educational background in economics and computer science, Bitcoin caught his attention in late 2010. He has since devoted nearly every waking moment to it's promotion, earning the nickname "Bitcoin Jesus" in the process. Roger has invested in numerous Bitcoin related startups and is incredibly optimistic about the numerous ways Bitcoin will change the world for the better.
Picture
Peter Vessenes is the CEO and founder of Coinlab.com, and Chairman of the Board for the Bitcoin Foundation. Peter started his first technology company at 13 and since then has launched nearly a dozen businesses.
He's convinced that Bitcoins can change the world, and has taught all three of his children how to keep up on the Bitcoin-Dollar exchange rate, just in case.
He graduated from Brown University with an Sc.B. in Theoretical Mathematics, and an emphasis in cryptography. Sadly he failed his only International Finance class; he was unable to explain to his professor how digital micropayments were different than credit cards.
Picture
Teresa Warmke is Co-Founder and Treasurer for Fr33 Aid, an organization of medically skilled liberty lovers created to help individuals organize projects that educate people about the value of mutual aid and lessen the burdens of government. She is passionate about CPR and defibrillation and offers free CPR workshops at events that Fr33 Aid supports.
Teresa co-founded Bay Area Voluntaryists and organizes meetups for the group here in the San Francisco Bay Area. Teresa also organizes the Sonoma County chapter of Full Picture, an organization of peace activists and veterans that educates high school students about the reality and alternatives to military service.
In addition to CPR workshops, Teresa has given talks about founding and operating non-profit organizations and how to interpret data about medical products.
Picture
J.R. Willett
Last year J.R. Willett released "The Second Bitcoin Whitepaper", which describes how to store and trade investments such as oil, gold, stocks, and government currencies using only the bitcoin block chain. He discovered bitcoin in 2010 and spent 2011 recruiting gamers and paying them to run his disguised bitcoin miner on their GPUs. Now he is involved with BitcoinX.org as they implement features very similar to what he described in his paper. J.R. has been coding for fun since 1990 and professionally since 1999. He is currently employed as a software developer in Seattle, WA where he spends most of his free time offline, nurturing relationships with God, his beautiful wife, and three small children.
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Edan Yago is CEO of Epiphyte, which is building the next generation of anonymous and fast distributed payment protocols. Epiphyte's first customers are a new Free Trade Zone being developed as the first region to have a monetary system based on cryptocurrencies. Yago is a serial entrepreneur, having previously co-founded the companies Enzium and Gorilla.
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Marty Zigman, CPA (inactive), is the principal of Prolecto Resources, Inc., a NetSuite systems integration firm. NetSuite is the leading integrated ERP/CRM/eCommerce platform used by 70% of the Silicon Valley IPOs.
For the last 10 years, Prolecto Resources offers Netsuite implementations and innovations for small and medium sized businesses ($25M to $500m) seeking to gain competitive advantages through the use of information technology. Marty has a unique talent for holding deep technical understanding while being able to advise on, and link to, business strategy. Marty's philosophy is to leverage cloud based computing and fully-integrated business applications to dramatically lower investment requirements while significantly expanding capacity to scale and serve customers globally.
Prior to Prolecto Resources, Marty was a systems consultant and financial auditor for Deloitte & Touche, the founder of a successful eCommerce dot com that produced a platform for Bank of America that generated over $4 Billion in order revenue, and a CTO of publicly traded electronic marketing agency.
Tamas Blummer
Roman Snitko
Jack Zwick
Edward Clements
C. Terence Lee, MD
Steve Kubby
Lasse Birk Olesen
Garrick Hileman
Adam B. Levine
Brewster Kahle
Dave Collins
Momchil Georgiev
John Light
Matthew Green
Greg Broiles
Noah Silverman
Yifu Guo
Olivier Coutu
Bitcoin Enterprise Server: Bits of Proof
Decentralized share issuing and distribution
Innovation & Decentralized Systems
Bitcoin Benefits for Merchants
A Doctor's Experience Accepting Bitcoin
Medical Marijuana
Seasteading: Entrepreneurship in government on the high seas
History and Prospects for Alternative Currencies
Youtube is Broken: Rethinking Content Monetization with Bitcoin
Internet Archive's Use of Bitcoin
Alternative full bitcoin node implementation in Go
Ownership-based Chain Selection
Open Personal Cloud Community
Zerocoin, a new anonymous eCash extension for Bitcoin
Nuts and Bolts of Bitcoin Taxation
Statistical Analysis of Price Swings and Market Pricing
Avalon ASICs
Decentralized Mixers
As an entrepreneurial investor, Mr. Seale spends his days mapping opportunities at the boundary of tech and finance. He first caught the decentralized currency bug at a poker game. Now his kids get their allowance in bitcoin.
Picture
Charlie Shrem
Currently serving as CEO and co-founder of BitInstant, one of the largest, earliest and well known alternative payment companies, Charlie used his position in both the old banking world and new alternative currency world to help pave the way for the Bitcoin economy to emerge in early 2011. Known in the Bitcoin and old hacker communities as 'Yankee', he is also founding member and current Vice Chairman of the Bitcoin Foundation. Along with Gareth Nelson, he found the need for a more secure, fast and convenient way of transferring funds between and within payment networks around the wold and leads BitInstant through the complex compliance, licensing and regulations of the worldwide banking system.
Picture
Ryan Singer is Tradehill's President and Chief Operating Officer. In addition to co-founding Tradehill, he is a passionate leader in open-source software and was a co-founder of the OpenDocument Foundation. Prior to Tradehill, Ryan spent two years leading projects for the Stanford Peace Innovation Lab where he focused on financial innovation for social change. Beyond his decade-plus experience in open-source and new technologies, Ryan has an extensive background in marketing, recruiting, and account management. He is strategic thinker, an enterprising trailblazer, and has a knack for the avant-garde.
Picture
Ryan Straus is the founder of the Payments Team at Graham & Dunn PC. As an attorney with a background in both technology and financial services, Ryan assists clients with payment matters, including electronic payments, mobile payments, prepaid cards, alternative currencies, and federal/state licensing. Ryan’s financial services practice focuses on compliance, corporate governance, and regulatory matters.
Picture
Peter Surda is a software developer and spent time in the online payments industry. He has been working on economic research of Bitcoin since 2011, runs a blog (www.economicsofbitcoin.com) and is working on a book about the topic.
Picture
Peter Todd is known in the Bitcoin community for his work on off-chain transactions, in particular finding ways to reduce or eliminate the need to trust third parties. He is also known for his advocacy of off-chain transactions as the means to allow Bitcoin to scale to global transaction volumes while still remaining decentralized. Peter also works as an electronics designer for a mining industry startup - that is, the type of mining that involves geologists.
Picture
Roger Ver is the CEO and founder of MemoryDealers.com. With an educational background in economics and computer science, Bitcoin caught his attention in late 2010. He has since devoted nearly every waking moment to it's promotion, earning the nickname "Bitcoin Jesus" in the process. Roger has invested in numerous Bitcoin related startups and is incredibly optimistic about the numerous ways Bitcoin will change the world for the better.
Picture
Peter Vessenes is the CEO and founder of Coinlab.com, and Chairman of the Board for the Bitcoin Foundation. Peter started his first technology company at 13 and since then has launched nearly a dozen businesses.
He's convinced that Bitcoins can change the world, and has taught all three of his children how to keep up on the Bitcoin-Dollar exchange rate, just in case.
He graduated from Brown University with an Sc.B. in Theoretical Mathematics, and an emphasis in cryptography. Sadly he failed his only International Finance class; he was unable to explain to his professor how digital micropayments were different than credit cards.
Picture
Teresa Warmke is Co-Founder and Treasurer for Fr33 Aid, an organization of medically skilled liberty lovers created to help individuals organize projects that educate people about the value of mutual aid and lessen the burdens of government. She is passionate about CPR and defibrillation and offers free CPR workshops at events that Fr33 Aid supports.
Teresa co-founded Bay Area Voluntaryists and organizes meetups for the group here in the San Francisco Bay Area. Teresa also organizes the Sonoma County chapter of Full Picture, an organization of peace activists and veterans that educates high school students about the reality and alternatives to military service.
In addition to CPR workshops, Teresa has given talks about founding and operating non-profit organizations and how to interpret data about medical products.
Picture
J.R. Willett
Last year J.R. Willett released "The Second Bitcoin Whitepaper", which describes how to store and trade investments such as oil, gold, stocks, and government currencies using only the bitcoin block chain. He discovered bitcoin in 2010 and spent 2011 recruiting gamers and paying them to run his disguised bitcoin miner on their GPUs. Now he is involved with BitcoinX.org as they implement features very similar to what he described in his paper. J.R. has been coding for fun since 1990 and professionally since 1999. He is currently employed as a software developer in Seattle, WA where he spends most of his free time offline, nurturing relationships with God, his beautiful wife, and three small children.
Picture
Edan Yago is CEO of Epiphyte, which is building the next generation of anonymous and fast distributed payment protocols. Epiphyte's first customers are a new Free Trade Zone being developed as the first region to have a monetary system based on cryptocurrencies. Yago is a serial entrepreneur, having previously co-founded the companies Enzium and Gorilla.
Picture
Marty Zigman, CPA (inactive), is the principal of Prolecto Resources, Inc., a NetSuite systems integration firm. NetSuite is the leading integrated ERP/CRM/eCommerce platform used by 70% of the Silicon Valley IPOs.
For the last 10 years, Prolecto Resources offers Netsuite implementations and innovations for small and medium sized businesses ($25M to $500m) seeking to gain competitive advantages through the use of information technology. Marty has a unique talent for holding deep technical understanding while being able to advise on, and link to, business strategy. Marty's philosophy is to leverage cloud based computing and fully-integrated business applications to dramatically lower investment requirements while significantly expanding capacity to scale and serve customers globally.
Prior to Prolecto Resources, Marty was a systems consultant and financial auditor for Deloitte & Touche, the founder of a successful eCommerce dot com that produced a platform for Bank of America that generated over $4 Billion in order revenue, and a CTO of publicly traded electronic marketing agency.
Tamas Blummer
Roman Snitko
Jack Zwick
Edward Clements
C. Terence Lee, MD
Steve Kubby
Lasse Birk Olesen
Garrick Hileman
Adam B. Levine
Brewster Kahle
Dave Collins
Momchil Georgiev
John Light
Matthew Green
Greg Broiles
Noah Silverman
Yifu Guo
Olivier Coutu
Bitcoin Enterprise Server: Bits of Proof
Decentralized share issuing and distribution
Innovation & Decentralized Systems
Bitcoin Benefits for Merchants
A Doctor's Experience Accepting Bitcoin
Medical Marijuana
Seasteading: Entrepreneurship in government on the high seas
History and Prospects for Alternative Currencies
Youtube is Broken: Rethinking Content Monetization with Bitcoin
Internet Archive's Use of Bitcoin
Alternative full bitcoin node implementation in Go
Ownership-based Chain Selection
Open Personal Cloud Community
Zerocoin, a new anonymous eCash extension for Bitcoin
Nuts and Bolts of Bitcoin Taxation
Statistical Analysis of Price Swings and Market Pricing
Avalon ASICs
Decentralized Mixers
http://www.economicsofbitcoin.com/
26 November 2013 07:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Stephen Pair is co-founder and CTO of Bitpay. Stephen has over 20 years of experience in the software industry in various roles including entrepreneur, architect, manager, team lead, and developer. He started programming at a young age on his dad’s TRS-80 Model 1 (circa 1978). During the 1990s, he developed an interest in the mechanics of financial markets, economics, and monetary systems and the question of how they might evolve as the global Internet developed. He closely followed develop- ments in cryptography in the mid 90s along with attempts at creating new electronic money systems. This back- ground led to his current interest in Bitcoin technology. He holds one patent in the field of streaming analytics along with several additional filings, some of which are still pending.
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David Perry is a Bitcoin blogger, author, podcaster and amateur YouTube videographer who spends his free time programming. His blog, Coding In My Sleep, covers a variety of topics but after discovering Bitcoin in May 2011 has been mostly taken over by cryptocurrency news.
Dave has also spent years working in the payment processing industry and is no stranger to the needs and desires of merchants or the problems they often have with traditional payment systems and Bitcoin alike. He is also an avid miner and an information security and open source software enthusiast.
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Alan Reiner is the core developer of Armory Bitcoin Client, a popular alternative wallet application focused on security for heavily-invested Bitcoin users and businesses. It was the first and only Bitcoin wallet application to make "Cold Storage" (offline wallets) accessible through an intuitive user interface that doesn't require being an Bitcoin or Linux expert.
Alan has two degrees in applied mathematics and one in mechanical engineering, and additional background in statistics, artificial intelligence and cryptography. He has spent the past seven years developing image & video processing algorithms full-time for missile defense applications in the US, and spent the last 18 months also developing Armory in his spare time.
Alan originally got involved with Bitcoin as a miner, then later realized that he had a perfect background for developing Bitcoin applications and could make a plethora of features available that were missing from the community. Armory's goal is to not only pioneer the most advanced functionality of the Bitcoin network, but to make it easy for regular users to access it.
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Rainey Reitman is the activism director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a nonprofit civil liberties law firm and advocacy center. She is particularly interested in the intersection between personal privacy and technology, and has spent significant time investigating the role of financial intermediaries as censors. Prior to joining EFF, Reitman served as Director of Communications for the Privacy Rights Clearinghouse, a nonprofit advocacy and education organization promoting consumer privacy, and during that time she covered a range of financial privacy issues.
In addition to her work at EFF, Reitman is Chief Operating Officer and co-founder of the Freedom of the Press Foundation, a nonprofit organization that crowd-sources funding to supporting cutting-edge, independent, nonprofit journalistic institutions. She is also a founder and steering committee member for the Bradley Manning Support Network, a network of individuals and organizations advocating for the release of accused WikiLeaks whistleblower Pfc. Bradley Manning.
Reitman serves on the board of the directors for the Bill of Rights Defense Committee, a nonprofit whose mission is to organize and support an effective, national grassroots movement to restore civil liberties guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. She is also a steering committee member of the Internet Defense League, a netroots coalition working to fend off threats to the free and open Web.
She tweets about dogs, feminism, running, food, and occasionally digital rights at @raineyreitman.
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Claire Sammon Roberts brings more than 25 years of experience in the payments industry to ZipZap including management roles at leading financial institutions and card processing companies in operations, settlement, risk management, systems development and integration and customer service.
Prior to joining ZipZap, Claire was Senior Director for Risk Management at Blackhawk Network Inc., a leading provider of prepaid products. Claire also held management roles at Bank of America Merchant Services and Wells Fargo Merchant Services and consults with numerous payment companies on risk management, fraud, security, regulatory and MSB matters.
Claire joined the ZipZap senior management team in 2011. She is responsible for managing operations, customer care, risk management and administrative functions.
Claire received her BS in Business Administration from San Francisco State University.
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Meni Rosenfeld is a mathematician who has been involved in Bitcoin since March 2011, and is best known for his work regarding mining pool reward methods - including developing novel methods, consulting to pool operators and writing the authoritative guide to the subject. He also leads the Bitcoin community in Israel and has founded its primary exchange service, Bitcoil.
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Alan Safahi is the Founder and CEO of ZipZap, Inc., the world’s largest cash payment network for digital currency purchases, online ecommerce transactions and e-wallet top ups.
A serial entrepreneur with nearly 30 years of hands-on experience in the information technology, telecommunications, and financial services industries, Alan has successfully created and managed numerous high technology and payment processing startups.
Prior to ZipZap, Alan founded three start-ups including Card Express Inc. (CardEx), a Visa and MasterCard prepaid card processor and program manager with a history of innovations such as the first open loop MasterCard Gift Card (1996), the first open loop reloadable MasterCard prepaid card (1997) and the first virtual MasterCard prepaid Card (1999).
Alan serves on the Advisory Board of several alternate payment and crypto currency start ups including OpenCoin, the creator of Ripple open source currency platform.
Alan earned a Bachelor of Science degree in engineering from California State University, Fullerton and his M.B.A. from University of Southern California (USC).
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David Perry is a Bitcoin blogger, author, podcaster and amateur YouTube videographer who spends his free time programming. His blog, Coding In My Sleep, covers a variety of topics but after discovering Bitcoin in May 2011 has been mostly taken over by cryptocurrency news.
Dave has also spent years working in the payment processing industry and is no stranger to the needs and desires of merchants or the problems they often have with traditional payment systems and Bitcoin alike. He is also an avid miner and an information security and open source software enthusiast.
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Alan Reiner is the core developer of Armory Bitcoin Client, a popular alternative wallet application focused on security for heavily-invested Bitcoin users and businesses. It was the first and only Bitcoin wallet application to make "Cold Storage" (offline wallets) accessible through an intuitive user interface that doesn't require being an Bitcoin or Linux expert.
Alan has two degrees in applied mathematics and one in mechanical engineering, and additional background in statistics, artificial intelligence and cryptography. He has spent the past seven years developing image & video processing algorithms full-time for missile defense applications in the US, and spent the last 18 months also developing Armory in his spare time.
Alan originally got involved with Bitcoin as a miner, then later realized that he had a perfect background for developing Bitcoin applications and could make a plethora of features available that were missing from the community. Armory's goal is to not only pioneer the most advanced functionality of the Bitcoin network, but to make it easy for regular users to access it.
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Rainey Reitman is the activism director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a nonprofit civil liberties law firm and advocacy center. She is particularly interested in the intersection between personal privacy and technology, and has spent significant time investigating the role of financial intermediaries as censors. Prior to joining EFF, Reitman served as Director of Communications for the Privacy Rights Clearinghouse, a nonprofit advocacy and education organization promoting consumer privacy, and during that time she covered a range of financial privacy issues.
In addition to her work at EFF, Reitman is Chief Operating Officer and co-founder of the Freedom of the Press Foundation, a nonprofit organization that crowd-sources funding to supporting cutting-edge, independent, nonprofit journalistic institutions. She is also a founder and steering committee member for the Bradley Manning Support Network, a network of individuals and organizations advocating for the release of accused WikiLeaks whistleblower Pfc. Bradley Manning.
Reitman serves on the board of the directors for the Bill of Rights Defense Committee, a nonprofit whose mission is to organize and support an effective, national grassroots movement to restore civil liberties guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. She is also a steering committee member of the Internet Defense League, a netroots coalition working to fend off threats to the free and open Web.
She tweets about dogs, feminism, running, food, and occasionally digital rights at @raineyreitman.
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Claire Sammon Roberts brings more than 25 years of experience in the payments industry to ZipZap including management roles at leading financial institutions and card processing companies in operations, settlement, risk management, systems development and integration and customer service.
Prior to joining ZipZap, Claire was Senior Director for Risk Management at Blackhawk Network Inc., a leading provider of prepaid products. Claire also held management roles at Bank of America Merchant Services and Wells Fargo Merchant Services and consults with numerous payment companies on risk management, fraud, security, regulatory and MSB matters.
Claire joined the ZipZap senior management team in 2011. She is responsible for managing operations, customer care, risk management and administrative functions.
Claire received her BS in Business Administration from San Francisco State University.
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Meni Rosenfeld is a mathematician who has been involved in Bitcoin since March 2011, and is best known for his work regarding mining pool reward methods - including developing novel methods, consulting to pool operators and writing the authoritative guide to the subject. He also leads the Bitcoin community in Israel and has founded its primary exchange service, Bitcoil.
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Alan Safahi is the Founder and CEO of ZipZap, Inc., the world’s largest cash payment network for digital currency purchases, online ecommerce transactions and e-wallet top ups.
A serial entrepreneur with nearly 30 years of hands-on experience in the information technology, telecommunications, and financial services industries, Alan has successfully created and managed numerous high technology and payment processing startups.
Prior to ZipZap, Alan founded three start-ups including Card Express Inc. (CardEx), a Visa and MasterCard prepaid card processor and program manager with a history of innovations such as the first open loop MasterCard Gift Card (1996), the first open loop reloadable MasterCard prepaid card (1997) and the first virtual MasterCard prepaid Card (1999).
Alan serves on the Advisory Board of several alternate payment and crypto currency start ups including OpenCoin, the creator of Ripple open source currency platform.
Alan earned a Bachelor of Science degree in engineering from California State University, Fullerton and his M.B.A. from University of Southern California (USC).
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Charles Lee is the creator and lead developer for Litecoin, the most popular alternative currency to Bitcoin. He is a software engineer working in the Bay Area. He holds a Bachelors and Masters degree in electrical engineering and computer science from M.I.T.
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Trace Mayer is an entrepreneur, investor, journalist, monetary scientist and ardent defender of the freedom of speech. He holds a degree in Accounting and a law degree. He has studied Austrian economics focusing on the work of Murray Rothbard and Ludwig
von Mises.
He is a strong advocate of the freedom of speech, operates RunToGold.com and HowToVanish.com, has authored The Great Credit Contraction and co-authored How To Vanish The Book, Bitcoin Beginner’s Guide and A Lawyer’s Take On Bitcoin And Taxes, is a member of the Society of Professional Journalists and the San Diego County Bar Association.
Trace has appeared on Canada’s national financial network BNN, ABC, NBC, many radio shows, conferences, to many private groups and is syndicated through Seeking Alpha, Yahoo! Finance and MarketWatch.
He was among the first popular bloggers to publicly recommend Bitcoin in its infancy with a market cap under $2m and well before its massive rise to about $500m in March 2013. So if you like, use or have profited from Bitcoin then there is a chance you were directly or indirectly influenced by Trace.
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Patrick Murck is General Counsel of the Bitcoin Foundation. His expertise extends across the legal and regulatory issues governing the use of Bitcoin, virtual economies, gamification, alternative payment systems, and social loyalty and reward programs. Previously, Patrick worked in business and legal affairs at a venture-backed gamification startup, as an attorney at a DC-based law firm, and as a journalist on international investigatory teams.
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Stephanie Murphy, PhD, is a multipotentialite entrepreneur, radio host, freelance voice artist, scientist, health & well being enthusiast, and lover of bitcoin. Stephanie is Director of Operations at Fr33 Aid, a mutual aid organization that provides support and networking for freedom-loving health professionals, and does outreach to the public about health & safety. Stephanie hosts her own podcast called Porc Therapy, a show about personal freedom. She is also a weekly host of the nationally syndicated talk radio show Free Talk Live.
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St. Clair Newbern IV is co-founder of Live Energy, a privately held energy broker and consulting firm. Developed the Live Energy Portal, a revolutionary energy management platform designed to automate the process of tracking market rates and identifying buying opportunities. Live Energy implements strategies for it's clients that include commodity procurement as well as a broad array of proven demand side strategies.
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Pierre Noizat is COO and co-founder of Paymium, the bitcoin start up specializing in innovative payment solutions since 2011. Paymium is the company behind Bitcoin-central, Instawallet and Paytunia.
Prior to Paymium, Pierre Noizat served as Managing Director of the Association for Mobile Contactless (NFC) in France.
As an engineer, Pierre contributed also to the success of major digital television projects from 1991 through 2000, including the launch of DirectTV in the USA and TPS in France.
Mr. Noizat received his MBA in Marketing and Finance from Columbia University in New York, 1991. Mr. Noizat is also a graduate of Ecole Polytechnique in Paris.
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Chris Odom is Co-Founder and CTO of Monetas, the world’s first decentralized system for financial and legal transactions, and the creator of the Open-Transactions digital finance suite that Monetas is based on. Open-Transactions features industry-leading innovations that solve critical problems in digital finance, and addresses urgent needs in the Bitcoin economy.
Chris started programming computers at the age of 7 on an Apple II. His first experience with digital finance and virtual currencies was in a commercially successful multi-user game he wrote as a teenager in the early nineties. This sparked an enduring passion for cryptographic finance that ultimately led to the creation of Open-Transactions.
Chris’ seventeen-year software career has encompassed coding and managing enterprise software development projects for leading US and foreign multinationals. He is experienced in a wide range of languages, platforms, and applications, and has deep experience in cross-platform high-security cryptographic applications and as system architect.
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Trace Mayer is an entrepreneur, investor, journalist, monetary scientist and ardent defender of the freedom of speech. He holds a degree in Accounting and a law degree. He has studied Austrian economics focusing on the work of Murray Rothbard and Ludwig
von Mises.
He is a strong advocate of the freedom of speech, operates RunToGold.com and HowToVanish.com, has authored The Great Credit Contraction and co-authored How To Vanish The Book, Bitcoin Beginner’s Guide and A Lawyer’s Take On Bitcoin And Taxes, is a member of the Society of Professional Journalists and the San Diego County Bar Association.
Trace has appeared on Canada’s national financial network BNN, ABC, NBC, many radio shows, conferences, to many private groups and is syndicated through Seeking Alpha, Yahoo! Finance and MarketWatch.
He was among the first popular bloggers to publicly recommend Bitcoin in its infancy with a market cap under $2m and well before its massive rise to about $500m in March 2013. So if you like, use or have profited from Bitcoin then there is a chance you were directly or indirectly influenced by Trace.
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Patrick Murck is General Counsel of the Bitcoin Foundation. His expertise extends across the legal and regulatory issues governing the use of Bitcoin, virtual economies, gamification, alternative payment systems, and social loyalty and reward programs. Previously, Patrick worked in business and legal affairs at a venture-backed gamification startup, as an attorney at a DC-based law firm, and as a journalist on international investigatory teams.
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Stephanie Murphy, PhD, is a multipotentialite entrepreneur, radio host, freelance voice artist, scientist, health & well being enthusiast, and lover of bitcoin. Stephanie is Director of Operations at Fr33 Aid, a mutual aid organization that provides support and networking for freedom-loving health professionals, and does outreach to the public about health & safety. Stephanie hosts her own podcast called Porc Therapy, a show about personal freedom. She is also a weekly host of the nationally syndicated talk radio show Free Talk Live.
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St. Clair Newbern IV is co-founder of Live Energy, a privately held energy broker and consulting firm. Developed the Live Energy Portal, a revolutionary energy management platform designed to automate the process of tracking market rates and identifying buying opportunities. Live Energy implements strategies for it's clients that include commodity procurement as well as a broad array of proven demand side strategies.
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Pierre Noizat is COO and co-founder of Paymium, the bitcoin start up specializing in innovative payment solutions since 2011. Paymium is the company behind Bitcoin-central, Instawallet and Paytunia.
Prior to Paymium, Pierre Noizat served as Managing Director of the Association for Mobile Contactless (NFC) in France.
As an engineer, Pierre contributed also to the success of major digital television projects from 1991 through 2000, including the launch of DirectTV in the USA and TPS in France.
Mr. Noizat received his MBA in Marketing and Finance from Columbia University in New York, 1991. Mr. Noizat is also a graduate of Ecole Polytechnique in Paris.
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Chris Odom is Co-Founder and CTO of Monetas, the world’s first decentralized system for financial and legal transactions, and the creator of the Open-Transactions digital finance suite that Monetas is based on. Open-Transactions features industry-leading innovations that solve critical problems in digital finance, and addresses urgent needs in the Bitcoin economy.
Chris started programming computers at the age of 7 on an Apple II. His first experience with digital finance and virtual currencies was in a commercially successful multi-user game he wrote as a teenager in the early nineties. This sparked an enduring passion for cryptographic finance that ultimately led to the creation of Open-Transactions.
Chris’ seventeen-year software career has encompassed coding and managing enterprise software development projects for leading US and foreign multinationals. He is experienced in a wide range of languages, platforms, and applications, and has deep experience in cross-platform high-security cryptographic applications and as system architect.
26 November 2013 07:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Rev C. Bennett Hoffman is the lead code ninja for Buttercoin, the largest open-source Bitcoin Exchange software effort. He's also a co-founder of Coinharvest, where he advises startups on all things bitcoin, from network hash-rate projections to development of secure web services. Bennett was previously a co-founder of the NerdTribe, has led a team of data-scientists doing big data analytics, and was a games developer at 343 Industries and Microsoft.
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David Johnston has spent 11 years in the field of technology entrepreneurship progressively growing the size and scope of the companies he has founded from modest sole-proprietorships to multi-million dollar ventures. In total $12 million of capital has been directly invested in companies David has founded or $20 Million counting "in kind" investments. David currently serves as the CEO of Engine Inc. and leads investor and strategic partnership efforts.
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Josh Jones is a programmer and entrepreneur who's been interested in electronic currency since 1996. He graduated with a B.S. in Computer Science from Harvey Mudd College in 1998 and founded and ran DreamHost (a web hosting provider at www dreamhost.com) until 2011. He discovered Bitcoin in July 2010 and mined a block on his eee media pc shortly thereafter. Since then he's hoarded more than his fair share of coins, and has developed Bitcoin Builder (Bitcoin investment tools at www.bitcoinbuilder.com) and Bit Madness (free sports pools with Bitcoins at www.bitmadness.com) along with ChunkHost (a VPS host that accepts Bitcoin at www.chunkhost.com).
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Angela Keaton is the Director of Operations at Antiwar.com, the web's leading source of antiwar news, views, and activities. She was also the producer of the Scott Horton Show for Antiwar Radio through 2011. She is currently the national chair of Outright Libertarians.
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Jered Kenna is Tradehill's founder and Chief Executive Officer. He got involved in Bitcoin exchange in 2009 and started building Tradehill in late 2010. More than anything, Jered is a world traveler, natural hacker, and entrepreneur. In addition to Tradehill, he is owner of the 20Mission "hacker hotel" located in the trendy Mission District of San Francisco and won the Vets in Tech Hackathon on 2012. Jered attributes his entrepreneurial determination and resiliency to lessons learned in his six year tenure in the US Marine Corps and years spent in developing countries like Chile and Afghanistan. Jered speaks regularly about Bitcoin, virtual currency, and the future of money and has been featured in major media outlets around the world.
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Brian Klein is partner at the boutique litigation firm Baker Marquart LLP. He represents individuals and corporate clients in criminal, regulatory and intellectual property matters. He also teaches federal criminal law at USC’s law school and has written about the regulation of virtual currencies.
As an Assistant United States Attorney in the Major Frauds Section of the United States Attorney’s Office in Los Angeles for 5 years, Brian handled significant white-collar criminal cases, including cases involving money laundering, corporate fraud and tax violations.
Brian graduated from New York University School of Law and received his undergraduate degree from the University of Washington.
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Chris Larsen is CEO and Co-founder of OpenCoin, the organization that first built the Ripple protocol. Ripple is an open source decentralized payment network and virtual currency. Mr. Larsen is also a cofounder and former CEO of Prosper, a peer-to-peer lending marketplace, which he ran for eight years, and a cofounder and former CEO of E-Loan, a publicly traded online lender, which he also ran for eight years. During his tenure at E-Loan, he pioneered the open access to credit scores movement by making E-Loan the first company to show consumers their FICO scores. Mr. Larsen also played a pivotal role in the passage of the strongest consumer financial privacy law in the nation and was hailed by Congresswoman Jackie Speier as being, "critical to the success of the bill." Mr. Larsen serves at the Board and Advisory levels at numerous companies and organizations including: Progreso Financiero, Betable, CreditKarma, and Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC). Mr. Larsen holds an M.B.A. degree from Stanford University and a B.S. degree from San Francisco State University, where he was named the 2004 Alumnus of the Year.
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David Johnston has spent 11 years in the field of technology entrepreneurship progressively growing the size and scope of the companies he has founded from modest sole-proprietorships to multi-million dollar ventures. In total $12 million of capital has been directly invested in companies David has founded or $20 Million counting "in kind" investments. David currently serves as the CEO of Engine Inc. and leads investor and strategic partnership efforts.
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Josh Jones is a programmer and entrepreneur who's been interested in electronic currency since 1996. He graduated with a B.S. in Computer Science from Harvey Mudd College in 1998 and founded and ran DreamHost (a web hosting provider at www dreamhost.com) until 2011. He discovered Bitcoin in July 2010 and mined a block on his eee media pc shortly thereafter. Since then he's hoarded more than his fair share of coins, and has developed Bitcoin Builder (Bitcoin investment tools at www.bitcoinbuilder.com) and Bit Madness (free sports pools with Bitcoins at www.bitmadness.com) along with ChunkHost (a VPS host that accepts Bitcoin at www.chunkhost.com).
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Angela Keaton is the Director of Operations at Antiwar.com, the web's leading source of antiwar news, views, and activities. She was also the producer of the Scott Horton Show for Antiwar Radio through 2011. She is currently the national chair of Outright Libertarians.
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Jered Kenna is Tradehill's founder and Chief Executive Officer. He got involved in Bitcoin exchange in 2009 and started building Tradehill in late 2010. More than anything, Jered is a world traveler, natural hacker, and entrepreneur. In addition to Tradehill, he is owner of the 20Mission "hacker hotel" located in the trendy Mission District of San Francisco and won the Vets in Tech Hackathon on 2012. Jered attributes his entrepreneurial determination and resiliency to lessons learned in his six year tenure in the US Marine Corps and years spent in developing countries like Chile and Afghanistan. Jered speaks regularly about Bitcoin, virtual currency, and the future of money and has been featured in major media outlets around the world.
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Brian Klein is partner at the boutique litigation firm Baker Marquart LLP. He represents individuals and corporate clients in criminal, regulatory and intellectual property matters. He also teaches federal criminal law at USC’s law school and has written about the regulation of virtual currencies.
As an Assistant United States Attorney in the Major Frauds Section of the United States Attorney’s Office in Los Angeles for 5 years, Brian handled significant white-collar criminal cases, including cases involving money laundering, corporate fraud and tax violations.
Brian graduated from New York University School of Law and received his undergraduate degree from the University of Washington.
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Chris Larsen is CEO and Co-founder of OpenCoin, the organization that first built the Ripple protocol. Ripple is an open source decentralized payment network and virtual currency. Mr. Larsen is also a cofounder and former CEO of Prosper, a peer-to-peer lending marketplace, which he ran for eight years, and a cofounder and former CEO of E-Loan, a publicly traded online lender, which he also ran for eight years. During his tenure at E-Loan, he pioneered the open access to credit scores movement by making E-Loan the first company to show consumers their FICO scores. Mr. Larsen also played a pivotal role in the passage of the strongest consumer financial privacy law in the nation and was hailed by Congresswoman Jackie Speier as being, "critical to the success of the bill." Mr. Larsen serves at the Board and Advisory levels at numerous companies and organizations including: Progreso Financiero, Betable, CreditKarma, and Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC). Mr. Larsen holds an M.B.A. degree from Stanford University and a B.S. degree from San Francisco State University, where he was named the 2004 Alumnus of the Year.
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26 November 2013 07:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Carla Gericke, originally from South Africa, worked as in-house counsel for Fortune 500 companies in Silicon Valley before redirecting her efforts to liberty activism. In 2008, Carla moved from NYC to New Hampshire as part of the Free State Project, a movement to concentrate 20,000 liberty lovers in the Live Free or Die state. FSP participants agree to exert the fullest practical effort toward the creation of a society in which the maximum role of civil government is the protection of an individual's life, liberty, and property. In 2009 and 2010, Carla organized the FSP's summer event, the Porcupine Freedom Festival. She writes and speaks on liberty issues. In 2011, Carla became president of the Free State Project.
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Michael Gronager holds a PhD in Quantum Mechanics and has a long history in e-Science and public research infrastructures. He began his career running private-public partnership projects in 3D and virtual reality. Since 2002 Michael has become synonymous with grid computing and e-Science in Europe. Most notably running the Nordic DataGrid Facility, one of the worlds largest distributed computing and storage installations for the particle accelerator at CERN in Geneva.
Since 2011 Michael has devoted his time to a Bitcoin startup, Ceptacle. Michael is the main author of libcoin, a Bitcoin library using an authenticated data structure to enable DHT as well as ultra light weight fully validating clients.
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David Gzesh is an attorney specializing in internet gaming transactions through his practice, Gzesh Law, Ltd. Previously, he was CEO, General Counsel and Director of Yatahay, Ltd., an online poker network. David has worked extensively with online gaming clients for more than a decade and specializes in legal, business, and regulatory representation, licensing and operational matters related to the online gaming industry, especially gaming ventures interested in the emerging US market(s).
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Timo Hanke is a mathematician at RWTH Aachen University in Germany, teaching and researching in the fields of algebra and number theory, with a special interest in computer algebra and cryptography.
He was fascinated by Satoshi's invention from the first day he learned about bitcoin, and ever since then believes to be witnessing a "world wonder" evolving in the form of a blockchain. While the true wonder may lie in its implications to society, Timo likes to think how to make its everyday usage more secure and convenient (payment protocols, mixing, etc.) by fully exploiting the cryptographic possibilities that the bitcoin protocol offers.
Aside from Germany, Timo has lived in California, Mexico City and Israel.
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J. Dax Hansen is a Partner in the Seattle office of Perkins Coie LLP and Chair of the firm's Electronic Financial Services Industry Group. Mr. Hansen advises payment service providers, retailers, wireless carriers, interactive entertainment companies and other clients on matters related to payments, technology, and international business.
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Mike Hearn is a developer from the UK who first used Bitcoin a few months after its initial release in 2009. He now focuses his development primarily on making purely P2P smartphone wallets. Mike has a research interest in advanced uses of the Bitcoin protocol, in particular around building out the infrastructure for a completely new financial system. He lives and works in Switzerland.
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Garrick Hileman has been invited to present his research on parallel and alternative currencies (e.g., bitcoin), black markets, sovereign debt, and financial repression at a number of international conferences. He is currently finishing his PhD at the at the London School of Economics and his academic advisors are Professors Albrecht Ritschl (LSE) and Niall Ferguson (Harvard/LSE). Garrick holds an MBA from IMD and he earned his bachelor's at the University of Washington, where he was also elected student body president.
Garrick's 15+ years of private sector experience includes work with both startups and established companies such as Bank of America, The Home Depot, IDG, and Allianz. He has served on the boards of directors of both publicly traded and private companies. Previously, Garrick co-founded and led the investment team for a $300 million San Francisco based tech incubator. He worked in both equity research and corporate finance at Montgomery Securities and executed over $1 billion in M&A and underwriting transactions for financial services and technology companies.
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Stu Hoegner is an international gaming and tax attorney and accountant based in Toronto. He graduated from the Faculty of Law at the University of Toronto and is called to practice in Ontario and Nevada. He advises clients on games of skill and chance, contests, mergers and acquisitions, intellectual property, and corporate and tax matters. His clientele includes Internet gaming operators and sportsbooks, professional poker players, international land-based casino owners, equipment manufacturers, marketing and advertising companies, poker professionals, pharmaceutical businesses, and social media entrepreneurs. Stu writes a regular blog linked to gamingcounsel.co.
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Michael Gronager holds a PhD in Quantum Mechanics and has a long history in e-Science and public research infrastructures. He began his career running private-public partnership projects in 3D and virtual reality. Since 2002 Michael has become synonymous with grid computing and e-Science in Europe. Most notably running the Nordic DataGrid Facility, one of the worlds largest distributed computing and storage installations for the particle accelerator at CERN in Geneva.
Since 2011 Michael has devoted his time to a Bitcoin startup, Ceptacle. Michael is the main author of libcoin, a Bitcoin library using an authenticated data structure to enable DHT as well as ultra light weight fully validating clients.
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David Gzesh is an attorney specializing in internet gaming transactions through his practice, Gzesh Law, Ltd. Previously, he was CEO, General Counsel and Director of Yatahay, Ltd., an online poker network. David has worked extensively with online gaming clients for more than a decade and specializes in legal, business, and regulatory representation, licensing and operational matters related to the online gaming industry, especially gaming ventures interested in the emerging US market(s).
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Timo Hanke is a mathematician at RWTH Aachen University in Germany, teaching and researching in the fields of algebra and number theory, with a special interest in computer algebra and cryptography.
He was fascinated by Satoshi's invention from the first day he learned about bitcoin, and ever since then believes to be witnessing a "world wonder" evolving in the form of a blockchain. While the true wonder may lie in its implications to society, Timo likes to think how to make its everyday usage more secure and convenient (payment protocols, mixing, etc.) by fully exploiting the cryptographic possibilities that the bitcoin protocol offers.
Aside from Germany, Timo has lived in California, Mexico City and Israel.
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J. Dax Hansen is a Partner in the Seattle office of Perkins Coie LLP and Chair of the firm's Electronic Financial Services Industry Group. Mr. Hansen advises payment service providers, retailers, wireless carriers, interactive entertainment companies and other clients on matters related to payments, technology, and international business.
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Mike Hearn is a developer from the UK who first used Bitcoin a few months after its initial release in 2009. He now focuses his development primarily on making purely P2P smartphone wallets. Mike has a research interest in advanced uses of the Bitcoin protocol, in particular around building out the infrastructure for a completely new financial system. He lives and works in Switzerland.
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Garrick Hileman has been invited to present his research on parallel and alternative currencies (e.g., bitcoin), black markets, sovereign debt, and financial repression at a number of international conferences. He is currently finishing his PhD at the at the London School of Economics and his academic advisors are Professors Albrecht Ritschl (LSE) and Niall Ferguson (Harvard/LSE). Garrick holds an MBA from IMD and he earned his bachelor's at the University of Washington, where he was also elected student body president.
Garrick's 15+ years of private sector experience includes work with both startups and established companies such as Bank of America, The Home Depot, IDG, and Allianz. He has served on the boards of directors of both publicly traded and private companies. Previously, Garrick co-founded and led the investment team for a $300 million San Francisco based tech incubator. He worked in both equity research and corporate finance at Montgomery Securities and executed over $1 billion in M&A and underwriting transactions for financial services and technology companies.
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Stu Hoegner is an international gaming and tax attorney and accountant based in Toronto. He graduated from the Faculty of Law at the University of Toronto and is called to practice in Ontario and Nevada. He advises clients on games of skill and chance, contests, mergers and acquisitions, intellectual property, and corporate and tax matters. His clientele includes Internet gaming operators and sportsbooks, professional poker players, international land-based casino owners, equipment manufacturers, marketing and advertising companies, poker professionals, pharmaceutical businesses, and social media entrepreneurs. Stu writes a regular blog linked to gamingcounsel.co.
26 November 2013 07:54
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Christian Dumontet is a software engineer, entrepreneur, and investor based in Boston, MA. He is the co-founder and CEO of Foodler, a successful Boston-based restaurant aggregation service for online ordering now operating in 48 states.
Prior to founding Foodler, Christian was a software engineer and engineering lead at Cisco Systems, Inc. He holds a BS in computer science.
He finds that international travel fuels the creative thought process, and has lived in several countries throughout the world.
Christian is eager to promote the use of Bitcoin by accepting payment at all Foodler restaurants, and believes that a reduction in merchant processing fees and fraud will spur a new era of innovation.
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Fred Ehrsam is co-founder of Coinbase. Fred previously traded foreign exchange at Goldman Sachs and worked at BlackRock, the world's largest asset manager. He holds a BS in computer science and economics, with honors and distinction, from Duke University.
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Mary Ann Francis is Executive Advisor/Lead, Payments, at WIPRO where she is responsible for the strategic and tactical management of all global and domestic services. She has previously held numerous industry leadership positions, and is a frequent and respected speaker, and visionary, within industry forums: member of the Board of NACHA; member of the executive search team for the new President; led the strategic portion of the 5 year NACHA Plan: Chaired the Payments Conference, The Electronic Payments Conference, The Global Payments Conference, and The EDI Banker’s Council. She received her MBA from Baldwin Wallace College.
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Dan Friedberg is a financial services and corporate attorney that specializes in emerging markets, including Bitcoin. Dan works for an established law firm that has represented financial services companies for over 100 years. Dan and his firm are experienced in regulatory compliance, including money transmitter licenses. Dan also assists companies with financings and public listings, including international stock listings. Dan received his MBA and his law degree, cum laude, from the University of Wisconsin, and received highest honors in political economy at Williams College.
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Mark Friedenbach is a freelance application developer in the financial services industry. Mark is the engineering lead of the Freicoin currency project, and has previously worked at NASA-Ames Research Center and Lockheed Martin Corporation. Mark spends his free time engineering long-term solutions for finance, artificial intelligence, space exploration and nanotechnology. Mark holds an Engineering Physics degree from Santa Clara University.
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Anthony Gallippi, co-founder and CEO, saw a need for bitcoin payment processing and founded BitPay in 2011. As a start-up, Mr. Gallippi is involved in all of the day-to-day operations including new business development, marketing, and customer service. Mr. Gallippi has 15 years of experience in sales and marketing working in the Robotics industry.
Bitcoin is a new financial technology, invented in 2009 as the first peer-to-peer digital currency. Using bitcoin, it is possible to send money like an email - to anyone, anytime, anywhere- without going through a bank or government or corporation.
Before founding BitPay, Tony was District Sales Manager at Aerotech and Regional Sales Manager at Industrial Devices Corporation. Mr. Gallippi has a Bachelors in Mechanical Engineering from the Georgia Institute of Technology.
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Jeff Garzik is a bitcoin core developer, involved with bitcoin since July 2010. Jeff has spent almost two decades engineering open source software, including GNOME, Linux kernel and now bitcoin. He is the author of picocoin, pynode, cpuminer, and many other bitcoin-related softwares.
Prior to founding Foodler, Christian was a software engineer and engineering lead at Cisco Systems, Inc. He holds a BS in computer science.
He finds that international travel fuels the creative thought process, and has lived in several countries throughout the world.
Christian is eager to promote the use of Bitcoin by accepting payment at all Foodler restaurants, and believes that a reduction in merchant processing fees and fraud will spur a new era of innovation.
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Fred Ehrsam is co-founder of Coinbase. Fred previously traded foreign exchange at Goldman Sachs and worked at BlackRock, the world's largest asset manager. He holds a BS in computer science and economics, with honors and distinction, from Duke University.
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Mary Ann Francis is Executive Advisor/Lead, Payments, at WIPRO where she is responsible for the strategic and tactical management of all global and domestic services. She has previously held numerous industry leadership positions, and is a frequent and respected speaker, and visionary, within industry forums: member of the Board of NACHA; member of the executive search team for the new President; led the strategic portion of the 5 year NACHA Plan: Chaired the Payments Conference, The Electronic Payments Conference, The Global Payments Conference, and The EDI Banker’s Council. She received her MBA from Baldwin Wallace College.
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Dan Friedberg is a financial services and corporate attorney that specializes in emerging markets, including Bitcoin. Dan works for an established law firm that has represented financial services companies for over 100 years. Dan and his firm are experienced in regulatory compliance, including money transmitter licenses. Dan also assists companies with financings and public listings, including international stock listings. Dan received his MBA and his law degree, cum laude, from the University of Wisconsin, and received highest honors in political economy at Williams College.
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Mark Friedenbach is a freelance application developer in the financial services industry. Mark is the engineering lead of the Freicoin currency project, and has previously worked at NASA-Ames Research Center and Lockheed Martin Corporation. Mark spends his free time engineering long-term solutions for finance, artificial intelligence, space exploration and nanotechnology. Mark holds an Engineering Physics degree from Santa Clara University.
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Anthony Gallippi, co-founder and CEO, saw a need for bitcoin payment processing and founded BitPay in 2011. As a start-up, Mr. Gallippi is involved in all of the day-to-day operations including new business development, marketing, and customer service. Mr. Gallippi has 15 years of experience in sales and marketing working in the Robotics industry.
Bitcoin is a new financial technology, invented in 2009 as the first peer-to-peer digital currency. Using bitcoin, it is possible to send money like an email - to anyone, anytime, anywhere- without going through a bank or government or corporation.
Before founding BitPay, Tony was District Sales Manager at Aerotech and Regional Sales Manager at Industrial Devices Corporation. Mr. Gallippi has a Bachelors in Mechanical Engineering from the Georgia Institute of Technology.
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Jeff Garzik is a bitcoin core developer, involved with bitcoin since July 2010. Jeff has spent almost two decades engineering open source software, including GNOME, Linux kernel and now bitcoin. He is the author of picocoin, pynode, cpuminer, and many other bitcoin-related softwares.
26 November 2013 07:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Joe Cutler,
counsel at the law firm Perkins Coie LLP, focuses his practice on combating cybercrime and enforcing website terms of use and counseling clients in areas related to privacy and data security, anti-money laundering and state money service business laws, consumer protection law, and Internet law.
Joe advises clients regarding state and federal privacy and data protection laws, including anti-spamming and anti-phishing statutes, state data protection statutes, and breach notification laws. Joe provides counseling related to compliance with federal anti-money laundering laws and state money transmission statutes and has represented clients before state departments of financial institutions. Joe also provides consumer protection compliance advice to companies regarding their obligations under the Fair Credit Reporting Act and fair debt collections practices statutes. This practice focuses primarily on the protection and safeguarding of customer personal data.
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Cedric Dahl runs operations for Buttercoin, the largest open-source Bitcoin Exchange software effort. Cedric is also a co-founder of Coinharvest, specializing in helping bitcoin business grow by providing bitcoin liquidity, consulting services, and managed bitcoin mining. Before diving into the bitcoin world, Cedric was a co-founder of the NerdTribe hacker-house and spent three years managing growth and operations for Microsoft.
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Dan Dascalescu is the CTO of Blueseed, the upcoming startup community on a cruise ship stationed in Silicon Valley's international waters. Entrepreneurs can start-up companies aboard without the need for U.S. work visas, and can travel to the mainland using easier-to-obtain business/travel (B1/B2) visas. Blueseed is the first step towards realizing the vision of seasteading - floating ocean colonies allowing peaceful experimentation with new social systems and forms of governance.
Dan is also an open source software developer, and prior to Blueseed, he administered Yahoo!'s internal wiki, developed localization tools, and led the technical globalization efforts of several Yahoo! properties. He also founded the Quantified Self Forum (a community for those passionate about self-tracking), worked in satellite communications in Belgium and co-authored and translated a number of IT books in Romanian.
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Ben Davenport is an entrepreneur, software engineer and investor from Palo Alto, CA. He most recently co-founded Beluga Inc, acquired by Facebook in 2011. He has a decade of experience building scalable systems and consumer-facing products at Microsoft, Google and now Facebook. He has a CS degree from Princeton and an masters in CS from the University of Washington.
Upon learning about Bitcoin in May 2011, his understanding of cryptography and Austrian monetary economics led him to conclude that bitcoin has the potential to be a true free market gold standard for the digital age.
He believes Bitcoin has now reached a critical tipping point, and will begin to see substantial investment in the bitcoin-based economy and accelerated adoption by businesses and consumers. Ben is an investor in BitPay and several other bitcoin-based businesses.
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Tuur Demeester is author of the financial newsletter MacroTrends, that goes out to investors in Belgium and the Netherlands. In January 2012, he added Bitcoin as part of the recommended currency basket.
After reading Ludwig von Mises' Human Action as a student, Tuur decided to drop out of university and pursue his studies in a self-directed manner. He co-founded the Murray Rothbard institute in 2007 and later translated Jesus Huerta de Soto's Money, Bank Credit, and Economic Cycles into Dutch. He also co-founded two private schools, one in Belgium and one in the Netherlands. Tuur Demeester has so far lived in nine cities and traveled to thirty countries. He spends most of the year in South America.
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Larry De Palma, CTP is a veteran corporate banking expert. During his tenure at Chase Manhattan Bank, he directed the client-facing foreign exchange product and operations service of the bank (a $1BN operation). As Director of Emerging Products at Paymentech, he managed a large-scale payment processing operation focusing on emerging payment methods for notable merchants such as America Online, BellSouth, Verizon Wireless, T-Mobile, Pre-Paid Legal.
counsel at the law firm Perkins Coie LLP, focuses his practice on combating cybercrime and enforcing website terms of use and counseling clients in areas related to privacy and data security, anti-money laundering and state money service business laws, consumer protection law, and Internet law.
Joe advises clients regarding state and federal privacy and data protection laws, including anti-spamming and anti-phishing statutes, state data protection statutes, and breach notification laws. Joe provides counseling related to compliance with federal anti-money laundering laws and state money transmission statutes and has represented clients before state departments of financial institutions. Joe also provides consumer protection compliance advice to companies regarding their obligations under the Fair Credit Reporting Act and fair debt collections practices statutes. This practice focuses primarily on the protection and safeguarding of customer personal data.
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Cedric Dahl runs operations for Buttercoin, the largest open-source Bitcoin Exchange software effort. Cedric is also a co-founder of Coinharvest, specializing in helping bitcoin business grow by providing bitcoin liquidity, consulting services, and managed bitcoin mining. Before diving into the bitcoin world, Cedric was a co-founder of the NerdTribe hacker-house and spent three years managing growth and operations for Microsoft.
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Dan Dascalescu is the CTO of Blueseed, the upcoming startup community on a cruise ship stationed in Silicon Valley's international waters. Entrepreneurs can start-up companies aboard without the need for U.S. work visas, and can travel to the mainland using easier-to-obtain business/travel (B1/B2) visas. Blueseed is the first step towards realizing the vision of seasteading - floating ocean colonies allowing peaceful experimentation with new social systems and forms of governance.
Dan is also an open source software developer, and prior to Blueseed, he administered Yahoo!'s internal wiki, developed localization tools, and led the technical globalization efforts of several Yahoo! properties. He also founded the Quantified Self Forum (a community for those passionate about self-tracking), worked in satellite communications in Belgium and co-authored and translated a number of IT books in Romanian.
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Ben Davenport is an entrepreneur, software engineer and investor from Palo Alto, CA. He most recently co-founded Beluga Inc, acquired by Facebook in 2011. He has a decade of experience building scalable systems and consumer-facing products at Microsoft, Google and now Facebook. He has a CS degree from Princeton and an masters in CS from the University of Washington.
Upon learning about Bitcoin in May 2011, his understanding of cryptography and Austrian monetary economics led him to conclude that bitcoin has the potential to be a true free market gold standard for the digital age.
He believes Bitcoin has now reached a critical tipping point, and will begin to see substantial investment in the bitcoin-based economy and accelerated adoption by businesses and consumers. Ben is an investor in BitPay and several other bitcoin-based businesses.
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Tuur Demeester is author of the financial newsletter MacroTrends, that goes out to investors in Belgium and the Netherlands. In January 2012, he added Bitcoin as part of the recommended currency basket.
After reading Ludwig von Mises' Human Action as a student, Tuur decided to drop out of university and pursue his studies in a self-directed manner. He co-founded the Murray Rothbard institute in 2007 and later translated Jesus Huerta de Soto's Money, Bank Credit, and Economic Cycles into Dutch. He also co-founded two private schools, one in Belgium and one in the Netherlands. Tuur Demeester has so far lived in nine cities and traveled to thirty countries. He spends most of the year in South America.
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Larry De Palma, CTP is a veteran corporate banking expert. During his tenure at Chase Manhattan Bank, he directed the client-facing foreign exchange product and operations service of the bank (a $1BN operation). As Director of Emerging Products at Paymentech, he managed a large-scale payment processing operation focusing on emerging payment methods for notable merchants such as America Online, BellSouth, Verizon Wireless, T-Mobile, Pre-Paid Legal.
26 November 2013 07:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Dr. Eli Ben-Sasson is a professor of theoretical computer science at Technion -- Israel Institute of Technology, Israel. He graduated in 2001 from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem and over the years has spent time as a researcher at Harvard University, The Institutes for Advanced Study at Princeton and Radcliffe, Microsoft Research and Toyota Technological Institute at Chicago, and, most lately, MIT.
Eli is interested in the mathematical foundations of computer science, with a special focus on proofs and computation. He co-leads the SCI project (Succinct Computational Integrity) which builds a comprehensive system for computational integrity and privacy for ANSI-C programs.
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Dennison Bertram, in an entrepreneur, based in the Czech Republic. He has a BA in Political Science with a focus on Eastern European Post-Communist transition. He has spent over a decade in Eastern Europe and is the owner of BuyBTC.cz, a Czech Bitcoin company working to build bitcoin adoption in the Czech Republic. Active as well in the alternative cryptocurrency community he was instrumental in building the user base of the new alt-coin: Terracoin. In addition to his work in Bitcoin his is also an internationally known and published Fashion photographer working for magazines such as Marie Claire, Elle, Vogue and others.
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Jerry Brito is a senior research fellow at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, and director of its Technology Policy Program. He also serves as adjunct professor of law at GMU. His research focuses on technology and Internet policy, government transparency and accountability, and the regulatory process.
Jerry has been following and writing about Bitcoin since 2011. He wrote one of the first mainstream media profiles of the currency for TIME.com in April of that year. Since then he has been especially interested in the regulatory and policy implications of Bitcoin. He runs the Bitcoin news aggregation site mostlybitcoin.com.
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Arlene Chan, CPA, is an accountant at Moss Adams LLP. Arlene has 18 years of public accounting experience, including over 14 years with a Big 4 firm. Focused on providing the highest level of service combined with technical expertise, she has in-depth experience working with companies in the high technology and life sciences industries. Arlene also has extensive experience with public and private stock offerings, including working on over a dozen initial and subsequent public offerings, as well as mergers and acquisitions.
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Victor Chapela is Founder & CEO of Sm4rt Predictive, a Palo Alto based predictive analytics company that specializes in payment fraud prevention.
Mr. Chapela has over 25 years of IT experience. During this time, he has founded and managed 6 technology related companies in the United States and Mexico. As CEO of these companies he has primarily been involved in the design and implementation of technological processes and software for the financial industry. He is a frequent speaker at international events and is frequently featured in business and trade magazines, television and radio.
As part of his previous experience Mr. Chapela founded and led Sm4rt Security Services, a highly specialized Pen Testing, Incident Response, Financial Fraud Investigations and Information Security Consulting company based out of Mexico City. Sm4rt Security Services continues to work for over 20 of the Global 500 financial institutions.
Previously he also founded and served as CEO of TrueCentric, an Austin based consumer analytics company where he lead a development team of over 90 engineers in the creation of a data mining and customer relation software product for the financial industry. Back in 1994 he founded DigiPro, one of Latin America’s leading financial data and document image processors. He has served in 14 different boards of directors in the technology industry.
His main expertise lies within the area of risk modeling, predictive analytics and financial information security. He is co-author and contributor of courseware, study material and security papers for SANS, OWASP, ISACA and several other security organizations and media companies.
He is currently co-authoring RiskVolution a book on the evolution of risk in the digital age.
Eli is interested in the mathematical foundations of computer science, with a special focus on proofs and computation. He co-leads the SCI project (Succinct Computational Integrity) which builds a comprehensive system for computational integrity and privacy for ANSI-C programs.
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Dennison Bertram, in an entrepreneur, based in the Czech Republic. He has a BA in Political Science with a focus on Eastern European Post-Communist transition. He has spent over a decade in Eastern Europe and is the owner of BuyBTC.cz, a Czech Bitcoin company working to build bitcoin adoption in the Czech Republic. Active as well in the alternative cryptocurrency community he was instrumental in building the user base of the new alt-coin: Terracoin. In addition to his work in Bitcoin his is also an internationally known and published Fashion photographer working for magazines such as Marie Claire, Elle, Vogue and others.
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Jerry Brito is a senior research fellow at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, and director of its Technology Policy Program. He also serves as adjunct professor of law at GMU. His research focuses on technology and Internet policy, government transparency and accountability, and the regulatory process.
Jerry has been following and writing about Bitcoin since 2011. He wrote one of the first mainstream media profiles of the currency for TIME.com in April of that year. Since then he has been especially interested in the regulatory and policy implications of Bitcoin. He runs the Bitcoin news aggregation site mostlybitcoin.com.
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Arlene Chan, CPA, is an accountant at Moss Adams LLP. Arlene has 18 years of public accounting experience, including over 14 years with a Big 4 firm. Focused on providing the highest level of service combined with technical expertise, she has in-depth experience working with companies in the high technology and life sciences industries. Arlene also has extensive experience with public and private stock offerings, including working on over a dozen initial and subsequent public offerings, as well as mergers and acquisitions.
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Victor Chapela is Founder & CEO of Sm4rt Predictive, a Palo Alto based predictive analytics company that specializes in payment fraud prevention.
Mr. Chapela has over 25 years of IT experience. During this time, he has founded and managed 6 technology related companies in the United States and Mexico. As CEO of these companies he has primarily been involved in the design and implementation of technological processes and software for the financial industry. He is a frequent speaker at international events and is frequently featured in business and trade magazines, television and radio.
As part of his previous experience Mr. Chapela founded and led Sm4rt Security Services, a highly specialized Pen Testing, Incident Response, Financial Fraud Investigations and Information Security Consulting company based out of Mexico City. Sm4rt Security Services continues to work for over 20 of the Global 500 financial institutions.
Previously he also founded and served as CEO of TrueCentric, an Austin based consumer analytics company where he lead a development team of over 90 engineers in the creation of a data mining and customer relation software product for the financial industry. Back in 1994 he founded DigiPro, one of Latin America’s leading financial data and document image processors. He has served in 14 different boards of directors in the technology industry.
His main expertise lies within the area of risk modeling, predictive analytics and financial information security. He is co-author and contributor of courseware, study material and security papers for SANS, OWASP, ISACA and several other security organizations and media companies.
He is currently co-authoring RiskVolution a book on the evolution of risk in the digital age.
26 November 2013 07:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
From 2013 http://www.bitcoin2013.com/bitcoin-2013-panelists.html
Gavin Andresen
After graduating from Princeton University, Gavin began his career working on 3D graphics software at Silicon Graphics Computer Systems.
Since leaving Silicon Valley in 1996, Gavin has tackled a wide variety of software-related ventures, including CTO of an early voice-over-the-Internet startup and co-founder of a company that made multiplayer online games for blind people and their sighted friends.
Most recently, Gavin has been the lead developer for the Bitcoin digital currency project, working to create a secure, stable "cash for the Internet.
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Andreas Antonopoulos is a computer scientist, an expert data communications and distributed systems, a Certified Information Systems Security Professional (CISSP) and a self-professed geek, with an engineering, programming and consulting background. For the past 22 years, has advised a range of global industries on emerging technologies and trends, and developed
business strategies for the efficient and effective use of technology. An early pioneer who saw the potential of the Internet in 1988, Andreas helped many businesses harness new processes to take advantage of the rapid developments in telecommunications. Andreas is a true “generalist” who is well-versed in many diverse technology subjects. With experience ranging from hardware and electronics to high level business consulting, he combines authority and deep knowledge with an ability to make complex subjects easy to understand. He often brings a fresh perspective to a topic with surprising insights and his ability to identify underlying principles and connections between different topics.
Andreas is also an early pioneer in the open source software space. Starting with 386BSD in 1991 and then Linux in 1992-1993 (version 0.95), he participated in the launch of the open-source phenomenon into mainstream use. He has contributed code to and project managed a number of open source projects.
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Brian Armstrong is Founder and CEO of Coinbase - a hosted bitcoin wallet. Brian previously worked on fraud prevention at Airbnb.com as a software engineer and founded UniversityTutor.com. He holds a Masters in computer science and BA in economics from Rice University.
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Johnathan (Yoni) Assia is the CEO of eToro, the world’s largest social investment network. He has shown an interest in finance and computer science since his youth and so decided to merge his passions. It was this very passion along with the social revolution, which lead to the founding and development of eToro’s investment network, where users connect, share, trade and invest in the world’s financial markets.
Yoni is as passionate about his business, as he is for family, wife plus 2 kids, which often results in excessive use of the word awesome, and hi-fives around the office.
It’s this young CEO’s vision to disrupt the old banking industry and replace it with a new online transparent and social financial system for the benefit for everyone.
Yoni holds a B.Sc. in Computer Science and Management and an MSC in Computer Sciences, he lives and works in New York.
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Rob Banagale is CEO and co-founder of Gliph, a startup focused on private communications and transactions. Rob builds mobile tools that protect consumers against data breaches and manage the sharing of personal data. He is passionate about online privacy and personal data security.
His startup, Gliph has been recognized by Forrester Research as an emerging niche leader in consumer endpoint security, and was recently named one of the top ten ways to avoid being tracked online by NPR's Marketplace.
Rob previously worked as Director of Strategy and Innovation for mobile agency Übermind in Seattle. He holds an MBA from Babson College and a BS in Computer Engineering from Oregon State University. He currently lives in Portland, Oregon.
Gavin Andresen
After graduating from Princeton University, Gavin began his career working on 3D graphics software at Silicon Graphics Computer Systems.
Since leaving Silicon Valley in 1996, Gavin has tackled a wide variety of software-related ventures, including CTO of an early voice-over-the-Internet startup and co-founder of a company that made multiplayer online games for blind people and their sighted friends.
Most recently, Gavin has been the lead developer for the Bitcoin digital currency project, working to create a secure, stable "cash for the Internet.
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Andreas Antonopoulos is a computer scientist, an expert data communications and distributed systems, a Certified Information Systems Security Professional (CISSP) and a self-professed geek, with an engineering, programming and consulting background. For the past 22 years, has advised a range of global industries on emerging technologies and trends, and developed
business strategies for the efficient and effective use of technology. An early pioneer who saw the potential of the Internet in 1988, Andreas helped many businesses harness new processes to take advantage of the rapid developments in telecommunications. Andreas is a true “generalist” who is well-versed in many diverse technology subjects. With experience ranging from hardware and electronics to high level business consulting, he combines authority and deep knowledge with an ability to make complex subjects easy to understand. He often brings a fresh perspective to a topic with surprising insights and his ability to identify underlying principles and connections between different topics.
Andreas is also an early pioneer in the open source software space. Starting with 386BSD in 1991 and then Linux in 1992-1993 (version 0.95), he participated in the launch of the open-source phenomenon into mainstream use. He has contributed code to and project managed a number of open source projects.
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Brian Armstrong is Founder and CEO of Coinbase - a hosted bitcoin wallet. Brian previously worked on fraud prevention at Airbnb.com as a software engineer and founded UniversityTutor.com. He holds a Masters in computer science and BA in economics from Rice University.
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Johnathan (Yoni) Assia is the CEO of eToro, the world’s largest social investment network. He has shown an interest in finance and computer science since his youth and so decided to merge his passions. It was this very passion along with the social revolution, which lead to the founding and development of eToro’s investment network, where users connect, share, trade and invest in the world’s financial markets.
Yoni is as passionate about his business, as he is for family, wife plus 2 kids, which often results in excessive use of the word awesome, and hi-fives around the office.
It’s this young CEO’s vision to disrupt the old banking industry and replace it with a new online transparent and social financial system for the benefit for everyone.
Yoni holds a B.Sc. in Computer Science and Management and an MSC in Computer Sciences, he lives and works in New York.
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Rob Banagale is CEO and co-founder of Gliph, a startup focused on private communications and transactions. Rob builds mobile tools that protect consumers against data breaches and manage the sharing of personal data. He is passionate about online privacy and personal data security.
His startup, Gliph has been recognized by Forrester Research as an emerging niche leader in consumer endpoint security, and was recently named one of the top ten ways to avoid being tracked online by NPR's Marketplace.
Rob previously worked as Director of Strategy and Innovation for mobile agency Übermind in Seattle. He holds an MBA from Babson College and a BS in Computer Engineering from Oregon State University. He currently lives in Portland, Oregon.
http://www.bitcoin2013.com/bitcoin-2013-panelists.html
26 November 2013 07:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Field McConnell: economics, transport flying 19,000+ hours, fighter flying 3700+ hours, total flying 23000+ hours, Marine, Navy AirForce experience. On December 10, 2006, Field McConnell reported the illegal weaponization of Boeing commercial aircraft to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), Northwest Airlines, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), NORAD and the USNA Superintendent. Shortly thereafter, Northwest Airlines, compelled by the United States Department of Justice (USDoJ), silenced Field McConnell due to his inadvertent re-opening of a safety issue closed in the June 2006 $615 million settlement paid by Boeing to the United States Department of Justice (USDOJ).
In the warnings, Field McConnell alleged that his study of September 11, 2001 lead him to believe that at least 108 Boeing airliners were in service that had been modified with QRS11 GyroChips (electronic hijack) and "something more sinister".
Boeing admitted on March 3, 2007 the existence of the Boeing Uninterruptable Autopilot. To date, 9 February, 2012, Airline Pilots Association (ALPA) has suppressed this information.
Crime-scene investigation radio station co-host for leaderless private intelligence agency Abel Danger (abeldanger.net / C2CSI.info).
Michael Merz studied computer science and business administration at University of Hamburg between 1984 and 1992. He received his PhD in computer science in 1996, the topic was "Electronic Commerce" among others with a focus on payment methods. He published 4 books on e-commerce related topics and over 30 research papers. In the year 1999 Michael started as managing director of Ponton Consulting, a software company that provides IT services to a range of international clients.
Abraham Heinemann: growing up in over twenty countries, participating in numerous ways of life, starting as a student of Art and then Genetics, Abraham finally graduated in social anthropology from the University of Kent in 2012. He spent his undergraduate years mobilising his peers to bring their study of anthropology to life, culminating in co-creating the 1st national anthropology undergraduate conference. Presently learning to be a biology teacher, whilst finalising his next steps in getting a PhD in anthropology. An holistic human, Abraham is a 'mashup'.
Charles Vollum has been involved with computer technology for 45 years. After studying mathematics and computer science at Reed College, he pursued a successful career as a software developer before starting his own computer company, Cogent Research, Inc., to develop and manufacture parallel desktop supercomputers in 1986. Selling and servicing these computers took him all over the world, and allowed him to see first hand the effects of many currencies and monetary regimes. After selling Cogent Research in 1992, Charles embarked on a new adventure – sailing a 27 foot sailboat singlehanded across the Pacific from North America to New Zealand, visiting many South Pacific Island nations and learning more about the world's money systems.
An active investor in gold and silver since 1980, Charles slowly began to realize the importance of having a standard of value not tied to any country's currency and monetary policyâ that in fact, rising and falling 'gold prices' were really more accurately viewed as falling and rising 'currency prices', measured against the relative stability of gold. This insight led to the founding of Gold Monocle Group, Ltd, and the creation of the Priced in Gold website in 2007.
For the last year, he has been experimenting with Bitcoin, seeking to understand its place in the universe of currencies and its relationship to gold.
In addition to his work on gold pricing and investment, Charles is an avid photographer, sailor, ham radio operator, and home-schooling parent.
Frank Braun: Privacy Extremist and IT Security Consultant.
Mit Gorilovsky: Product & solutions innovator with experience in mobile
telecoms industry, finance and econo-physics services with current focus of
enabling complex finance technologies with smile human interfaces.
Gregory Chikishev: he has a Master's degree of Mathematics and Computer
science of saint-Petersburg State Univeversity of Information Technologies,
Machanic and Optics. His science activity focused on cryptography and its
implementation in finance systems.
Organisers:
Joseph Heller (yossarian)
Donald Norman
Alex Breadman
Margus Waffa
Amir Taaki (genjix)
James McCarthy (nefario)
Nicolas Fischer (molecular)
Aimee Maree Forsstrom
Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
(well.. i did not make it to there on time, great adventure with 3 EUR from Estonia on foot.. that is still lasting thought.. )
In the warnings, Field McConnell alleged that his study of September 11, 2001 lead him to believe that at least 108 Boeing airliners were in service that had been modified with QRS11 GyroChips (electronic hijack) and "something more sinister".
Boeing admitted on March 3, 2007 the existence of the Boeing Uninterruptable Autopilot. To date, 9 February, 2012, Airline Pilots Association (ALPA) has suppressed this information.
Crime-scene investigation radio station co-host for leaderless private intelligence agency Abel Danger (abeldanger.net / C2CSI.info).
Michael Merz studied computer science and business administration at University of Hamburg between 1984 and 1992. He received his PhD in computer science in 1996, the topic was "Electronic Commerce" among others with a focus on payment methods. He published 4 books on e-commerce related topics and over 30 research papers. In the year 1999 Michael started as managing director of Ponton Consulting, a software company that provides IT services to a range of international clients.
Abraham Heinemann: growing up in over twenty countries, participating in numerous ways of life, starting as a student of Art and then Genetics, Abraham finally graduated in social anthropology from the University of Kent in 2012. He spent his undergraduate years mobilising his peers to bring their study of anthropology to life, culminating in co-creating the 1st national anthropology undergraduate conference. Presently learning to be a biology teacher, whilst finalising his next steps in getting a PhD in anthropology. An holistic human, Abraham is a 'mashup'.
Charles Vollum has been involved with computer technology for 45 years. After studying mathematics and computer science at Reed College, he pursued a successful career as a software developer before starting his own computer company, Cogent Research, Inc., to develop and manufacture parallel desktop supercomputers in 1986. Selling and servicing these computers took him all over the world, and allowed him to see first hand the effects of many currencies and monetary regimes. After selling Cogent Research in 1992, Charles embarked on a new adventure – sailing a 27 foot sailboat singlehanded across the Pacific from North America to New Zealand, visiting many South Pacific Island nations and learning more about the world's money systems.
An active investor in gold and silver since 1980, Charles slowly began to realize the importance of having a standard of value not tied to any country's currency and monetary policyâ that in fact, rising and falling 'gold prices' were really more accurately viewed as falling and rising 'currency prices', measured against the relative stability of gold. This insight led to the founding of Gold Monocle Group, Ltd, and the creation of the Priced in Gold website in 2007.
For the last year, he has been experimenting with Bitcoin, seeking to understand its place in the universe of currencies and its relationship to gold.
In addition to his work on gold pricing and investment, Charles is an avid photographer, sailor, ham radio operator, and home-schooling parent.
Frank Braun: Privacy Extremist and IT Security Consultant.
Mit Gorilovsky: Product & solutions innovator with experience in mobile
telecoms industry, finance and econo-physics services with current focus of
enabling complex finance technologies with smile human interfaces.
Gregory Chikishev: he has a Master's degree of Mathematics and Computer
science of saint-Petersburg State Univeversity of Information Technologies,
Machanic and Optics. His science activity focused on cryptography and its
implementation in finance systems.
Organisers:
Joseph Heller (yossarian)
Donald Norman
Alex Breadman
Margus Waffa
Amir Taaki (genjix)
James McCarthy (nefario)
Nicolas Fischer (molecular)
Aimee Maree Forsstrom
Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
(well.. i did not make it to there on time, great adventure with 3 EUR from Estonia on foot.. that is still lasting thought.. )
26 November 2013 07:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Andrew Miller is a computer science Ph.D student in the Interactive Systems and User Experience Lab (iSUElab) at the University of Central Florida, as well as a co-founder of Dapper Vision Inc., a computer vision consulting firm. He has published research in a variety of fields including virtual reality and robotics. He has also contributed to several open source projects, such as OpenKinect, Tahoe-LAFS and Hadoopy.
Joerg Platzer (founding member of the Berlin based Crypto Currency Consulting Group) finds a crypto-currency based financial system would be the second best financial system we can imagine. He loves Bitcoin to bits. That's why he accepts it at ROOM77, the restaurant at the end of capitalism. His talk is on certainty. Probably.
Aaron Koenig has been active in the Internet industry since 1994. He has created some of the first successful German websites for clients like MTV, ARD German Television, Gruner+Jahr, Milka Chocolate and many others. Since 2000 he is the managing director of Bitfilm, a film production and distribution company for moving images on the web and
mobile devices. Bitfilm has worked for clients such as Deutsche Telekom, Vodafone, Burda, Bitcoin Germany and more.
He is also the director of the Bitfilm Festival, an annual competition for digital animation, which takes place on the Internet as well as in real life places such as Hamburg, Barcelona, Tel Aviv, Bangalore, New York and Tokyo. In 2011 the Bitfilm Festival used Bitcoins for the first time for its prize money. In 2012 the whole online voting of the festival will work by using Bitcoins.
Jeremias (creator of AcceptBitcoin.com, LocalBitcoins.com) is bitcoin-obsessed generalist programmer. He has been mostly doing web apps professionally, but has experience with iPhone apps, Android development and started his programming career as a kid developing small games and stuff with C++. He worked 3 years in a software corporation doing lots of software for goverment and 3rd sector. After that he did his Master thesis at a university about future public transportation systems, and he has some economics studies as well. Since then he has worked as a micro-entrepreneur/freelancer. He sees bitcoin as a very good tool to fight exponentially-growing public sector and banking sector.
James McCarthy (nefario), originally from Ireland, worked as an engineer at Sun Microsystems for a short time on Solaris. Spent 2 years teaching English in mainland China. During this time he created the Global Bitcoin Stock Exchange (GLBSE.com) which has grown to a market cap of over $1.6Million USD and is funding a significant portion of the bitcoin network He is the first person to fly using Bitcoin and also the first person to be detained and deported from the US… also for using Bitcoin.
Michael Grønager obtained his PhD in Quantum Mechanics from the Technical University of Denmark in 1998. He worked for 6 years at the former Danish Super computing Center where he participated in the startup and managing of several EU, Nordic and National projects related to HPC, grid-computing and virtual reality. From 2000 he was directing the Virtual Reality Center at the Technical University of Denmark, working with business models and commercialization strategies for open source software. In 2004 he started at the Niels Bohr Institute as the Danish representative in the European Grid, EGEE project. He was from 2008-11 Director of the Nordic DataGrid Facility (NDGF) at NORDUnet A/S. Michael Grønager is the founder and director of ceptacle.com offering services and solutions in mission critical design, digital cash and consultancy in high performance computing and networking.
Michael Grønager has been member of the EGI Project Management Board, the EGI Technical Collaboration Board and at present he is member of the Board of the Swedish National Supercomputer Center, NSC, Linkjöping and the Board of the Danish Research Network.
Michael Grønager combines expert level technological understanding with excellent skills in research politics, management, communication and administration.
Eli Sklar is the founder of Safebit, a new type of open-source Bitcoin
wallet designed to introduce elegance to the world of Bitcoin by allowing
users to easily access their Bitcoins anywhere in the world from almost any
device - PC or Mobile, with simplicity in mind. For the last year Eli has
been working on his Safebit project alongside his extensive work as a
Bitcoin evangelist, and educator in all things Bitcoin.
Eli is also the owner of GridCT, a Tel-Aviv based firm that works on and
consults for various development projects in web-app creation, HTML5, and
and UI design. Eli is also a member of the Digital Commerce Advancement
Organization (DCAO), an organization that pushes for advocacy and
recognition of decentralized currencies like Bitcoin, and he serves as an
active member of various discussion groups and communities on Bitcoin
across the web.
Lasse Birk Olesen (fimp) is founder of Bitcoin Nordic and an ambassador of The Seasteading Institute.
With Bitcoin Nordic he made Bitcoin easily accessible for the first time in the Middle East, North Africa, and several South American countries by introducing cashU as a payment method for purchasing bitcoins. He has been a volunteer with The Seasteading Institute for years and has done technical research for Blueseed, a seasteading company that will host a visa-free startup incubator of the coast of Silicon Valley.
As engaged in both movements, he sees many similarities in how Bitcoin and seasteading are technologies that can fundamentally change the framework that politics has to work within. Lasse holds a bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering from Technical University of Denmark.
Pavol Luptak: cryptoanarchist, voluntaryist, Slovak hackerspace founder,
security consultant.
Juraj Bednar: I am interested in computer security, darker corners of Internet (deepweb) and recently Bitcoin. I am also involved in privacy and electronic frontiers through organisations I work with. I like to give presentations about these topics and spread knowledge and important information. That is the only problem with security - ignorance and misunderstanding. Since young age, I was interested in programming. I wrote my first program when I was 6 years old. Later I have become involved with open-source, Linux (as a user, then administrator and system architect), redundant server solutions. It all goes hand in hand with security and cryptography. I am very interested in wider implication of technologies."
Joerg Platzer (founding member of the Berlin based Crypto Currency Consulting Group) finds a crypto-currency based financial system would be the second best financial system we can imagine. He loves Bitcoin to bits. That's why he accepts it at ROOM77, the restaurant at the end of capitalism. His talk is on certainty. Probably.
Aaron Koenig has been active in the Internet industry since 1994. He has created some of the first successful German websites for clients like MTV, ARD German Television, Gruner+Jahr, Milka Chocolate and many others. Since 2000 he is the managing director of Bitfilm, a film production and distribution company for moving images on the web and
mobile devices. Bitfilm has worked for clients such as Deutsche Telekom, Vodafone, Burda, Bitcoin Germany and more.
He is also the director of the Bitfilm Festival, an annual competition for digital animation, which takes place on the Internet as well as in real life places such as Hamburg, Barcelona, Tel Aviv, Bangalore, New York and Tokyo. In 2011 the Bitfilm Festival used Bitcoins for the first time for its prize money. In 2012 the whole online voting of the festival will work by using Bitcoins.
Jeremias (creator of AcceptBitcoin.com, LocalBitcoins.com) is bitcoin-obsessed generalist programmer. He has been mostly doing web apps professionally, but has experience with iPhone apps, Android development and started his programming career as a kid developing small games and stuff with C++. He worked 3 years in a software corporation doing lots of software for goverment and 3rd sector. After that he did his Master thesis at a university about future public transportation systems, and he has some economics studies as well. Since then he has worked as a micro-entrepreneur/freelancer. He sees bitcoin as a very good tool to fight exponentially-growing public sector and banking sector.
James McCarthy (nefario), originally from Ireland, worked as an engineer at Sun Microsystems for a short time on Solaris. Spent 2 years teaching English in mainland China. During this time he created the Global Bitcoin Stock Exchange (GLBSE.com) which has grown to a market cap of over $1.6Million USD and is funding a significant portion of the bitcoin network He is the first person to fly using Bitcoin and also the first person to be detained and deported from the US… also for using Bitcoin.
Michael Grønager obtained his PhD in Quantum Mechanics from the Technical University of Denmark in 1998. He worked for 6 years at the former Danish Super computing Center where he participated in the startup and managing of several EU, Nordic and National projects related to HPC, grid-computing and virtual reality. From 2000 he was directing the Virtual Reality Center at the Technical University of Denmark, working with business models and commercialization strategies for open source software. In 2004 he started at the Niels Bohr Institute as the Danish representative in the European Grid, EGEE project. He was from 2008-11 Director of the Nordic DataGrid Facility (NDGF) at NORDUnet A/S. Michael Grønager is the founder and director of ceptacle.com offering services and solutions in mission critical design, digital cash and consultancy in high performance computing and networking.
Michael Grønager has been member of the EGI Project Management Board, the EGI Technical Collaboration Board and at present he is member of the Board of the Swedish National Supercomputer Center, NSC, Linkjöping and the Board of the Danish Research Network.
Michael Grønager combines expert level technological understanding with excellent skills in research politics, management, communication and administration.
Eli Sklar is the founder of Safebit, a new type of open-source Bitcoin
wallet designed to introduce elegance to the world of Bitcoin by allowing
users to easily access their Bitcoins anywhere in the world from almost any
device - PC or Mobile, with simplicity in mind. For the last year Eli has
been working on his Safebit project alongside his extensive work as a
Bitcoin evangelist, and educator in all things Bitcoin.
Eli is also the owner of GridCT, a Tel-Aviv based firm that works on and
consults for various development projects in web-app creation, HTML5, and
and UI design. Eli is also a member of the Digital Commerce Advancement
Organization (DCAO), an organization that pushes for advocacy and
recognition of decentralized currencies like Bitcoin, and he serves as an
active member of various discussion groups and communities on Bitcoin
across the web.
Lasse Birk Olesen (fimp) is founder of Bitcoin Nordic and an ambassador of The Seasteading Institute.
With Bitcoin Nordic he made Bitcoin easily accessible for the first time in the Middle East, North Africa, and several South American countries by introducing cashU as a payment method for purchasing bitcoins. He has been a volunteer with The Seasteading Institute for years and has done technical research for Blueseed, a seasteading company that will host a visa-free startup incubator of the coast of Silicon Valley.
As engaged in both movements, he sees many similarities in how Bitcoin and seasteading are technologies that can fundamentally change the framework that politics has to work within. Lasse holds a bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering from Technical University of Denmark.
Pavol Luptak: cryptoanarchist, voluntaryist, Slovak hackerspace founder,
security consultant.
Juraj Bednar: I am interested in computer security, darker corners of Internet (deepweb) and recently Bitcoin. I am also involved in privacy and electronic frontiers through organisations I work with. I like to give presentations about these topics and spread knowledge and important information. That is the only problem with security - ignorance and misunderstanding. Since young age, I was interested in programming. I wrote my first program when I was 6 years old. Later I have become involved with open-source, Linux (as a user, then administrator and system architect), redundant server solutions. It all goes hand in hand with security and cryptography. I am very interested in wider implication of technologies."
26 November 2013 07:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
David Birch is a Director of Consult Hyperion, the IT management consultancy that specialises in electronic transactions. He provides specialist consultancy support to clients around the world, including all of the leading payment brands, major telecommunications providers, governments bodies and international organisations including the OECD. Before helping to found Consult Hyperion in 1986, he spent several years working as a consultant in Europe, the Far East and North America. He graduated from the University of Southampton with a B.Sc (Hons.) in Physics.
Dave is a member of the editorial board of the E-Finance & Payments Law and Policy, a columnist for SPEED and well-known for his thought leadership blogging at Tomorrow’s Transactions. He wrote a Guardian column for many years. He is a media commentator on electronic business issues and has appeared on BBC television and radio, Sky and other channels around the world.
Caleb James DeLisle (cjd), software inventor and creator of cjdns networking protocol and reference implementation, will be talking about how protocols and mesh networks affect society, specifically relaying to censorship and surveillance. This talk is open to people of all levels of technical sophistication and centers around the relationship between the communications technologies we use and economic and social systems which grow up around them.
Caleb who began learning to program at age 10 now lives a car free lifestyle as a result of his belief that business relations with government should not be necessary for survival. He is a core developer for the XWiki project andspends his time pursuing his passion for changing the world. The cjdns project is a free software networking protocol founded on the ideology that networks should be easy to set up, protocols should scale up smoothly, and security should be ubiquitous.
Pieter Wuille (sipa) is a 27 year old Belgian who discovered Bitcoin while studying for his PhD. Alongside his studies, he became involved with Bitcoin by trying to get the reference client to export and import private keys. After gradually getting more involved he was eventually developing the Satoshi client full time and has been instrumental in refactoring and cleaning up the source code, key import/export, wallet encryption, compressed public keys, BIP 30, blockchain download speedups and general bugfixing. Currently he is working on deterministic wallets and IPv6 support.
Before the adoption of BIP 16, he was instrumental in perfecting the standard and working out several kinks during its development stage. He noticed several issues that otherwise went unnoticed by other developers during internal discussions. Pieter (along with roconnor) was also responsible for patching the recent issue found with Bitcoin where it was possible to duplicate a transaction. His quick thinking allowed a proposal to be fast tracked immediately as BIP 30, and quickly added to all existing implementations of the Bitcoin system.
Mike Hearn is the primary developer of bitcoinj, an easy to use Java library for writing Bitcoin applications. He first encountered Bitcoin in April 2009, and got involved late 2010. He is one of the few developers to discuss with Satoshi the construction of contracts, which is now one of his research interests. His day job is as a senior engineer at Google on the account security team.
Jim Burton is the lead developer of MultiBit, a lightweight desktop client for Bitcoin. For the previous ten years he has worked using Java at financial software houses including Banctec and Infor. He now works full-time on MultiBit and other bitcoin software, helping make Bitcoin available to everyone.
Juri Mattila is a postgraduate business law student from Finland. He holds a Bachelor's Degree in Economics and Business Administration from Tampere University's School of Management and is currently finalizing his Master's Thesis on the legislative effects and problems of peer-to-peer networks.
During his research he has developed a keen interest towards Bitcoin, amongst other future prospects of peer-to-peer networks. He will be exploring some of the legal aspects of Bitcoin.
Cory Wilson, 3D printable gun from Defense Distributed.
Jan Møller is the lead developer of BitcoinSpinner, a lightweight, secure,
and user friendly Bitcoin wallet for Android.
With a background in cryptography and large scale distributed systems
Bitcoin was simply too interesting to let go. Jan entered Bitcoin before
the big bubble and witnessed, like most of us, many bitcoiners loosing
their coins due to numerous scams, hacks, and simple hard drive failure.
Much of which could be avoided with a simple principle "Keep your private
keys... private". Out came BitcoinSpinner, which offloads the hard work of
tracking the block chain to a server while letting your device keep your
private keys... private.
Jan has been developing professional software for more than 2 decades, and
has over the years been tech lead on numerous projects based on
cryptography running in high security and heavily controlled environments
in the financial sector.
The last 5 years Jan has been working on x86 virtualization and cloud
management software at VMware.
Dave is a member of the editorial board of the E-Finance & Payments Law and Policy, a columnist for SPEED and well-known for his thought leadership blogging at Tomorrow’s Transactions. He wrote a Guardian column for many years. He is a media commentator on electronic business issues and has appeared on BBC television and radio, Sky and other channels around the world.
Caleb James DeLisle (cjd), software inventor and creator of cjdns networking protocol and reference implementation, will be talking about how protocols and mesh networks affect society, specifically relaying to censorship and surveillance. This talk is open to people of all levels of technical sophistication and centers around the relationship between the communications technologies we use and economic and social systems which grow up around them.
Caleb who began learning to program at age 10 now lives a car free lifestyle as a result of his belief that business relations with government should not be necessary for survival. He is a core developer for the XWiki project andspends his time pursuing his passion for changing the world. The cjdns project is a free software networking protocol founded on the ideology that networks should be easy to set up, protocols should scale up smoothly, and security should be ubiquitous.
Pieter Wuille (sipa) is a 27 year old Belgian who discovered Bitcoin while studying for his PhD. Alongside his studies, he became involved with Bitcoin by trying to get the reference client to export and import private keys. After gradually getting more involved he was eventually developing the Satoshi client full time and has been instrumental in refactoring and cleaning up the source code, key import/export, wallet encryption, compressed public keys, BIP 30, blockchain download speedups and general bugfixing. Currently he is working on deterministic wallets and IPv6 support.
Before the adoption of BIP 16, he was instrumental in perfecting the standard and working out several kinks during its development stage. He noticed several issues that otherwise went unnoticed by other developers during internal discussions. Pieter (along with roconnor) was also responsible for patching the recent issue found with Bitcoin where it was possible to duplicate a transaction. His quick thinking allowed a proposal to be fast tracked immediately as BIP 30, and quickly added to all existing implementations of the Bitcoin system.
Mike Hearn is the primary developer of bitcoinj, an easy to use Java library for writing Bitcoin applications. He first encountered Bitcoin in April 2009, and got involved late 2010. He is one of the few developers to discuss with Satoshi the construction of contracts, which is now one of his research interests. His day job is as a senior engineer at Google on the account security team.
Jim Burton is the lead developer of MultiBit, a lightweight desktop client for Bitcoin. For the previous ten years he has worked using Java at financial software houses including Banctec and Infor. He now works full-time on MultiBit and other bitcoin software, helping make Bitcoin available to everyone.
Juri Mattila is a postgraduate business law student from Finland. He holds a Bachelor's Degree in Economics and Business Administration from Tampere University's School of Management and is currently finalizing his Master's Thesis on the legislative effects and problems of peer-to-peer networks.
During his research he has developed a keen interest towards Bitcoin, amongst other future prospects of peer-to-peer networks. He will be exploring some of the legal aspects of Bitcoin.
Cory Wilson, 3D printable gun from Defense Distributed.
Jan Møller is the lead developer of BitcoinSpinner, a lightweight, secure,
and user friendly Bitcoin wallet for Android.
With a background in cryptography and large scale distributed systems
Bitcoin was simply too interesting to let go. Jan entered Bitcoin before
the big bubble and witnessed, like most of us, many bitcoiners loosing
their coins due to numerous scams, hacks, and simple hard drive failure.
Much of which could be avoided with a simple principle "Keep your private
keys... private". Out came BitcoinSpinner, which offloads the hard work of
tracking the block chain to a server while letting your device keep your
private keys... private.
Jan has been developing professional software for more than 2 decades, and
has over the years been tech lead on numerous projects based on
cryptography running in high security and heavily controlled environments
in the financial sector.
The last 5 years Jan has been working on x86 virtualization and cloud
management software at VMware.
26 November 2013 07:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Speakers in last conference: https://sites.google.com/a/bitcoin2012.com/homepage/speakers
Besides his great sister:
Richard StallmanRichard Stallman made all this possible. At the birth of the Free Software movement, there was no one more improbable than its founder - Richard Stallman. He was the essence of fringe. It was impossible for a ranting hacker to change the manufacture and licensing of how software was created. Yet this ranting hacker was right and everybody else was wrong.
Stallman comments extensively on technology issues and has maintained a tenacious ethical stance on software's role in society. Often Stallman has written about problems and dangers in the computing world that later turned out to be very real threats to freedom. Recently he has been talking about the dangers of electronic payments and how we need an unrestricted and anonymous payment method for the internet and a free society.
Max Keiser is an American finance broadcaster who began life as a stock broker on Wall Street. On his show, the Keiser Report, they report on banking scandals and financial crimes. They have become popular among us for their advocating of bitcoin on their show as the currency of the resistance. They were at the European Bitcoin Conference in Prague where Max led the finance track for us.
Max is a TV presenter, radio host, entrepreneur, broadcaster and journalist. He is a former Wall Street broker, the inventor of the virtual specialist technology / prediction markets, Hollywood Stock Exchange, Karmabanque, and Pirate My Film.
Denis Roio (jaromil) is one of the original hackers and long-time activist within the free software movement. He has made significant contributions to the development of multimedia and streaming applications on the Linux platform.
He authored FreeJ, MuSE and dyne:bolic, and was instrumental in the development of Frei0r which is used in many vital Linux video projects. Recently he has dabbled in bitcoin development with his fork called Freecoin and advocated for it publically.
Jaromil is a long-time squatter and participant in underground economies. He will relate to us how bitcoin fits in with this world which offers an illustrative example of bitcoin's future as a community-level people's currency. And how activists can use bitcoin to effect radical change to rebalance the power differential worldwide. Bringing together his long activist background, free software involvement and understanding of bitcoin will gift us an interesting perspective and prospective look at bitcoin.
Birgitta Jónsdóttir is a longtime social activist and member of the Icelandic parliament. In 2009, Kaupthing bank had their loan books leaked by Wikileaks revealing egregrious abuses and corruption - the bank had been lending huge sums of money to itself. RUV News had an injunction served, disallowing them to report on the bank which had helped plunge Iceland into a crisis. Instead they broadcasted the Wikileaks URL for 10 minutes on national TV which contained their statement explaining the injunction and censorship. Birgitta was responsible for creating the Icelandic Modern Media Initiative (see also immi.is) which provides a safe-haven for whistleblowers like Wikileaks and news organisations. The bill was passed with a majority in Iceland, placing them at the top of the Press Freedom Index in the world.
IMMI encompasses a whole range of free speech protections (including reform of atrocious libel laws) and in particular process protections. Birgitta was also responsible for co-producing the Wikileaks collateral murder video in which a US Apache helicopters shoot up a group including several Reuters journalists, and then a van with children afterwards. She has also acted as a spokesperson for Wikileaks. The US DoJ fought a court case against her to subpoena all her personal details (which she lost). An an activist, she has been outspoken against the banking industry and corruption within the industry. She is a member of the Icelandic parliament (district of Reykjavik) on behalf of 'The Movement' which is beyond 'right' or 'left' politics. We're excited to have her at this conference.
David Hunter was appointed chief executive of Ukash in January 2011. Based in London and with offices in Macclesfield, Ukash is a global e-money network and an internationally recognised e-commerce cash payment method. David has helped pioneer the development of online cash payment systems and is an international expert in prepaid commerce. In past years, David founded and led three e-money businesses (BT Accurate, ClickandBuy Europe, and paysafecard UK) and has a track record of developing and leading new ventures into profitable growth.
Stefan Thomas (justmoon) is the producer of the popular "What is Bitcoin?" video and the webmaster of the largest website for novice Bitcoin users, WeUseCoins.com. He maintains an open-source ECDSA/Bitcoin implementation for web-based and realtime applications called BitcoinJS, which is used by many popular Bitcoin sites including BlockChain.info, BitAddress.org and AcceptBit.com. His overarching motivation is to make Bitcoin more accessible to the average person through simpler clients, easier tools and better communication of Bitcoin's core concepts.
Stefan's talk last year - click here to watch
Stan Stalnaker is the founder of Hub Culture, one of the world's oldest online social networks. Hub Culture is active in three areas - creating collaborative Hub Pavilions to drive innovation, managing the Ven digital currency and financial ecosystem, and strategic consulting with a global network of knowledge brokers. Previously, Stan was Marketing Director at Time Warner's international Business and Finance media group, based in London and Hong Kong. He is the author of the 2002 book Hub Culture: The Next Wave of Urban Consumers, and has written for major international media including CNN.com, TIME.com, GQ, Harvard Business Review and others. He currently resides between London and New York.
Marek Palatinus (slush) is 28 years old Czech programmer who discovered Bitcoin on mailing list of TahoeLAFS in summer 2010 because of his interest in distributed computer systems and large scale applications. He founded the first shared based mining pool in autumn 2011 which is still in operation. Marek is also active in development of alternative bitcoin client Electrum. He designed network protocol for lightweight bitcoin clients called Stratum, which is currently used by Electrum.
Jeff Garzik (jgarzik) is a Bitcoin developer and Linux kernel developer. He has worked for Red Hat and currently is involved with a new company Dungevan Space Systems, Inc. specialising in Low Earth Orbit and getting people to Mars.
Jeff ranked highest for deleting 6% of the 2.6 Linux kernel according to lwn.net, and is a long term notable contributor to the Linux kernel.
David Birch is a Director of Consult Hyperion, the IT management consultancy that specialises in electronic transactions. He provides specialist consultancy support to clients around the world, including all of the leading payment brands, major telecommunications providers, governments bodies and international organisations including the OECD. Before helping to found Consult Hyperion in 1986, he spent several years working as a consultant in Europe, the Far East and North America. He graduated from the University of Southampton with a B.Sc (Hons.) in Physics.
Dave is a member of the editorial board of the E-Finance & Payments Law and Policy, a columnist for SPEED and well-known for his thought leadership blogging at Tomorrow’s Transactions. He wrote a Guardian column for many years. He is a media commentator on electronic business issues and has appeared on BBC television and radio, Sky and other channels around the world.
IMMI encompasses a whole range of free speech protections (including reform of atrocious libel laws) and in particular process protections. Birgitta was also responsible for co-producing the Wikileaks collateral murder video in which a US Apache helicopters shoot up a group including several Reuters journalists, and then a van with children afterwards. She has also acted as a spokesperson for Wikileaks. The US DoJ fought a court case against her to subpoena all her personal details (which she lost). An an activist, she has been outspoken against the banking industry and corruption within the industry. She is a member of the Icelandic parliament (district of Reykjavik) on behalf of 'The Movement' which is beyond 'right' or 'left' politics. We're excited to have her at this conference.
David Hunter was appointed chief executive of Ukash in January 2011. Based in London and with offices in Macclesfield, Ukash is a global e-money network and an internationally recognised e-commerce cash payment method. David has helped pioneer the development of online cash payment systems and is an international expert in prepaid commerce. In past years, David founded and led three e-money businesses (BT Accurate, ClickandBuy Europe, and paysafecard UK) and has a track record of developing and leading new ventures into profitable growth.
Stefan Thomas (justmoon) is the producer of the popular "What is Bitcoin?" video and the webmaster of the largest website for novice Bitcoin users, WeUseCoins.com. He maintains an open-source ECDSA/Bitcoin implementation for web-based and realtime applications called BitcoinJS, which is used by many popular Bitcoin sites including BlockChain.info, BitAddress.org and AcceptBit.com. His overarching motivation is to make Bitcoin more accessible to the average person through simpler clients, easier tools and better communication of Bitcoin's core concepts.
Stefan's talk last year - click here to watch
Stan Stalnaker is the founder of Hub Culture, one of the world's oldest online social networks. Hub Culture is active in three areas - creating collaborative Hub Pavilions to drive innovation, managing the Ven digital currency and financial ecosystem, and strategic consulting with a global network of knowledge brokers. Previously, Stan was Marketing Director at Time Warner's international Business and Finance media group, based in London and Hong Kong. He is the author of the 2002 book Hub Culture: The Next Wave of Urban Consumers, and has written for major international media including CNN.com, TIME.com, GQ, Harvard Business Review and others. He currently resides between London and New York.
Marek Palatinus (slush) is 28 years old Czech programmer who discovered Bitcoin on mailing list of TahoeLAFS in summer 2010 because of his interest in distributed computer systems and large scale applications. He founded the first shared based mining pool in autumn 2011 which is still in operation. Marek is also active in development of alternative bitcoin client Electrum. He designed network protocol for lightweight bitcoin clients called Stratum, which is currently used by Electrum.
Jeff Garzik (jgarzik) is a Bitcoin developer and Linux kernel developer. He has worked for Red Hat and currently is involved with a new company Dungevan Space Systems, Inc. specialising in Low Earth Orbit and getting people to Mars.
Jeff ranked highest for deleting 6% of the 2.6 Linux kernel according to lwn.net, and is a long term notable contributor to the Linux kernel.
Besides his great sister:
Richard StallmanRichard Stallman made all this possible. At the birth of the Free Software movement, there was no one more improbable than its founder - Richard Stallman. He was the essence of fringe. It was impossible for a ranting hacker to change the manufacture and licensing of how software was created. Yet this ranting hacker was right and everybody else was wrong.
Stallman comments extensively on technology issues and has maintained a tenacious ethical stance on software's role in society. Often Stallman has written about problems and dangers in the computing world that later turned out to be very real threats to freedom. Recently he has been talking about the dangers of electronic payments and how we need an unrestricted and anonymous payment method for the internet and a free society.
Max Keiser is an American finance broadcaster who began life as a stock broker on Wall Street. On his show, the Keiser Report, they report on banking scandals and financial crimes. They have become popular among us for their advocating of bitcoin on their show as the currency of the resistance. They were at the European Bitcoin Conference in Prague where Max led the finance track for us.
Max is a TV presenter, radio host, entrepreneur, broadcaster and journalist. He is a former Wall Street broker, the inventor of the virtual specialist technology / prediction markets, Hollywood Stock Exchange, Karmabanque, and Pirate My Film.
Denis Roio (jaromil) is one of the original hackers and long-time activist within the free software movement. He has made significant contributions to the development of multimedia and streaming applications on the Linux platform.
He authored FreeJ, MuSE and dyne:bolic, and was instrumental in the development of Frei0r which is used in many vital Linux video projects. Recently he has dabbled in bitcoin development with his fork called Freecoin and advocated for it publically.
Jaromil is a long-time squatter and participant in underground economies. He will relate to us how bitcoin fits in with this world which offers an illustrative example of bitcoin's future as a community-level people's currency. And how activists can use bitcoin to effect radical change to rebalance the power differential worldwide. Bringing together his long activist background, free software involvement and understanding of bitcoin will gift us an interesting perspective and prospective look at bitcoin.
Birgitta Jónsdóttir is a longtime social activist and member of the Icelandic parliament. In 2009, Kaupthing bank had their loan books leaked by Wikileaks revealing egregrious abuses and corruption - the bank had been lending huge sums of money to itself. RUV News had an injunction served, disallowing them to report on the bank which had helped plunge Iceland into a crisis. Instead they broadcasted the Wikileaks URL for 10 minutes on national TV which contained their statement explaining the injunction and censorship. Birgitta was responsible for creating the Icelandic Modern Media Initiative (see also immi.is) which provides a safe-haven for whistleblowers like Wikileaks and news organisations. The bill was passed with a majority in Iceland, placing them at the top of the Press Freedom Index in the world.
IMMI encompasses a whole range of free speech protections (including reform of atrocious libel laws) and in particular process protections. Birgitta was also responsible for co-producing the Wikileaks collateral murder video in which a US Apache helicopters shoot up a group including several Reuters journalists, and then a van with children afterwards. She has also acted as a spokesperson for Wikileaks. The US DoJ fought a court case against her to subpoena all her personal details (which she lost). An an activist, she has been outspoken against the banking industry and corruption within the industry. She is a member of the Icelandic parliament (district of Reykjavik) on behalf of 'The Movement' which is beyond 'right' or 'left' politics. We're excited to have her at this conference.
David Hunter was appointed chief executive of Ukash in January 2011. Based in London and with offices in Macclesfield, Ukash is a global e-money network and an internationally recognised e-commerce cash payment method. David has helped pioneer the development of online cash payment systems and is an international expert in prepaid commerce. In past years, David founded and led three e-money businesses (BT Accurate, ClickandBuy Europe, and paysafecard UK) and has a track record of developing and leading new ventures into profitable growth.
Stefan Thomas (justmoon) is the producer of the popular "What is Bitcoin?" video and the webmaster of the largest website for novice Bitcoin users, WeUseCoins.com. He maintains an open-source ECDSA/Bitcoin implementation for web-based and realtime applications called BitcoinJS, which is used by many popular Bitcoin sites including BlockChain.info, BitAddress.org and AcceptBit.com. His overarching motivation is to make Bitcoin more accessible to the average person through simpler clients, easier tools and better communication of Bitcoin's core concepts.
Stefan's talk last year - click here to watch
Stan Stalnaker is the founder of Hub Culture, one of the world's oldest online social networks. Hub Culture is active in three areas - creating collaborative Hub Pavilions to drive innovation, managing the Ven digital currency and financial ecosystem, and strategic consulting with a global network of knowledge brokers. Previously, Stan was Marketing Director at Time Warner's international Business and Finance media group, based in London and Hong Kong. He is the author of the 2002 book Hub Culture: The Next Wave of Urban Consumers, and has written for major international media including CNN.com, TIME.com, GQ, Harvard Business Review and others. He currently resides between London and New York.
Marek Palatinus (slush) is 28 years old Czech programmer who discovered Bitcoin on mailing list of TahoeLAFS in summer 2010 because of his interest in distributed computer systems and large scale applications. He founded the first shared based mining pool in autumn 2011 which is still in operation. Marek is also active in development of alternative bitcoin client Electrum. He designed network protocol for lightweight bitcoin clients called Stratum, which is currently used by Electrum.
Jeff Garzik (jgarzik) is a Bitcoin developer and Linux kernel developer. He has worked for Red Hat and currently is involved with a new company Dungevan Space Systems, Inc. specialising in Low Earth Orbit and getting people to Mars.
Jeff ranked highest for deleting 6% of the 2.6 Linux kernel according to lwn.net, and is a long term notable contributor to the Linux kernel.
David Birch is a Director of Consult Hyperion, the IT management consultancy that specialises in electronic transactions. He provides specialist consultancy support to clients around the world, including all of the leading payment brands, major telecommunications providers, governments bodies and international organisations including the OECD. Before helping to found Consult Hyperion in 1986, he spent several years working as a consultant in Europe, the Far East and North America. He graduated from the University of Southampton with a B.Sc (Hons.) in Physics.
Dave is a member of the editorial board of the E-Finance & Payments Law and Policy, a columnist for SPEED and well-known for his thought leadership blogging at Tomorrow’s Transactions. He wrote a Guardian column for many years. He is a media commentator on electronic business issues and has appeared on BBC television and radio, Sky and other channels around the world.
IMMI encompasses a whole range of free speech protections (including reform of atrocious libel laws) and in particular process protections. Birgitta was also responsible for co-producing the Wikileaks collateral murder video in which a US Apache helicopters shoot up a group including several Reuters journalists, and then a van with children afterwards. She has also acted as a spokesperson for Wikileaks. The US DoJ fought a court case against her to subpoena all her personal details (which she lost). An an activist, she has been outspoken against the banking industry and corruption within the industry. She is a member of the Icelandic parliament (district of Reykjavik) on behalf of 'The Movement' which is beyond 'right' or 'left' politics. We're excited to have her at this conference.
David Hunter was appointed chief executive of Ukash in January 2011. Based in London and with offices in Macclesfield, Ukash is a global e-money network and an internationally recognised e-commerce cash payment method. David has helped pioneer the development of online cash payment systems and is an international expert in prepaid commerce. In past years, David founded and led three e-money businesses (BT Accurate, ClickandBuy Europe, and paysafecard UK) and has a track record of developing and leading new ventures into profitable growth.
Stefan Thomas (justmoon) is the producer of the popular "What is Bitcoin?" video and the webmaster of the largest website for novice Bitcoin users, WeUseCoins.com. He maintains an open-source ECDSA/Bitcoin implementation for web-based and realtime applications called BitcoinJS, which is used by many popular Bitcoin sites including BlockChain.info, BitAddress.org and AcceptBit.com. His overarching motivation is to make Bitcoin more accessible to the average person through simpler clients, easier tools and better communication of Bitcoin's core concepts.
Stefan's talk last year - click here to watch
Stan Stalnaker is the founder of Hub Culture, one of the world's oldest online social networks. Hub Culture is active in three areas - creating collaborative Hub Pavilions to drive innovation, managing the Ven digital currency and financial ecosystem, and strategic consulting with a global network of knowledge brokers. Previously, Stan was Marketing Director at Time Warner's international Business and Finance media group, based in London and Hong Kong. He is the author of the 2002 book Hub Culture: The Next Wave of Urban Consumers, and has written for major international media including CNN.com, TIME.com, GQ, Harvard Business Review and others. He currently resides between London and New York.
Marek Palatinus (slush) is 28 years old Czech programmer who discovered Bitcoin on mailing list of TahoeLAFS in summer 2010 because of his interest in distributed computer systems and large scale applications. He founded the first shared based mining pool in autumn 2011 which is still in operation. Marek is also active in development of alternative bitcoin client Electrum. He designed network protocol for lightweight bitcoin clients called Stratum, which is currently used by Electrum.
Jeff Garzik (jgarzik) is a Bitcoin developer and Linux kernel developer. He has worked for Red Hat and currently is involved with a new company Dungevan Space Systems, Inc. specialising in Low Earth Orbit and getting people to Mars.
Jeff ranked highest for deleting 6% of the 2.6 Linux kernel according to lwn.net, and is a long term notable contributor to the Linux kernel.
https://sites.google.com/a/bitcoin2012.com/homepage/speakers
26 November 2013 07:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
not related directly but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_liquid_water
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_liquid_water
25 November 2013 06:54
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
to drunk to get in to Net to be drunk in net :D
25 November 2013 06:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
But yea.. where is full version... this is so great tune,
here is repeater... arrgh@soundcloud:
http://share.snacktools.com/F8D5DA58B7A/ah5s7sfi
http://picosong.com/qpJC/
(bdw, uploading mp3 to internet and sharing it playable in fb is greater project then you would expect... seriously..)
And yes, back then we was still able to make movies .. with a bit more freedom on some arias
here is repeater... arrgh@soundcloud:
http://share.snacktools.com/F8D5DA58B7A/ah5s7sfi
http://picosong.com/qpJC/
(bdw, uploading mp3 to internet and sharing it playable in fb is greater project then you would expect... seriously..)
And yes, back then we was still able to make movies .. with a bit more freedom on some arias
http://share.snacktools.com/F8D5DA58B7A/ah5s7sfi
23 November 2013 08:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
" Our automatic content protection system has detected that your sound "Księżyc Raz Odwiedził Staw Rep" may contain the following copyright content: "Ksiezyc raz odwiedzil staw" by Piotr Fronczewski;Akademia Pana Kleksa, owned by Sony Music Entertainment. As a result, its publication on your profile has been blocked. " ... are you seerious ??
23 November 2013 08:50
Margus Meigo commented on Paul Joseph Watson's post.
wait a minute... was there a gun shoots or did someone smoke blunts and someone saw the smoke ?
.. must have some heavy medication to confuse these :D
.. must have some heavy medication to confuse these :D
22 November 2013 12:58
Margus Meigo commented on Pep Romero's post.
Group: The AWARE study unofficial page
i thought bible and many other books long time ago talked about life and death and after that...
this being as a basic main fundamental beliefs (or - facts if we may..)
But as Anna told
"...through the peer review process for publication in a scientific journal.." - well, not sure how religious these people are there... if they not to much in to knowing that their actions, thoughts and feelings matter then to let something like that to public domain seems to much worry some, disturbing, ... feeling like virgin.
So people make their heart and mind hard, cold and try to explain it away with fantasy backed up with data that is collected a science before.
But yea.. can you imagine this small friendly parental smile on proper religious people face when people try to make revolutionary findings about life after death... (or perhaps its not called Life there... then..)
post gos a bit long but but yeah, most of all, ...all these controlling people, and laboratory humans with practical and logical mind was made to challenge religion themselves for forgetting the ways they was made to live,
even told in book that those people will be made powerful and will make joke out of all religious people who did not keep the ways, ... but science people themselves should keep in mind, that soon comes time when they them self, will know proper way, by fact, that their old parents was right, and that they was part of the project, no turning back and keeping clear mind then...
But right now its still allowed not to think proper way, people who are not religious are not jet looked as someone who need medication, or severe help, but perhaps times change already in side our time frame.. will do my best to speed up evolution :)22 November 2013 12:32
Margus Meigo commented on Anti Teraväe's post.
Group: Šamaanid ja teadjad
ega me kogemata ebavajalikudele joududele liigset infot ei voi anda osasi unenagusi avalikult seletades?
.. millised nod head unenao raamatud eestis ungi... ? Mul yks lemmik kuid eip maleta selle autorit.. ta kombineeris eri raamatud ja filosoofiad ja psyholoogiad kokku.. kos erineva tyypi unanagude seletamisega, vastavalt psyyhilisele olekule ja kuuseisudele jne22 November 2013 12:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Who are you, Doctor?
Doctor Who ?
Doctor Who ?
22 November 2013 12:00
Margus Meigo commented on Julienne Vipond's photo.
Just for fun gov might one day for enlightening purposes post pictures of all masked people, whit all of their family data and last 10 years random pick of real and internet life bits... on some of the Anon the website
... just for fun..
so easy for few groups just in UK ... even private investigators could get easily most of that info..
But no... lets keep us imagining that we are being anonymous by covering our eyes like small child who plays hide and seek behind a brothers ...
Only people who can be kind of private are females from some religion that wear full body uniform and move in private groups and houses that no randoms can not access easily to find out who was who...
But yea, as a show and coming having fun with friends its perhaps great idea, kind of like wearing a cross by showing how you try to live
(: Keep up guys & g8rls !
... just for fun..
so easy for few groups just in UK ... even private investigators could get easily most of that info..
But no... lets keep us imagining that we are being anonymous by covering our eyes like small child who plays hide and seek behind a brothers ...
Only people who can be kind of private are females from some religion that wear full body uniform and move in private groups and houses that no randoms can not access easily to find out who was who...
But yea, as a show and coming having fun with friends its perhaps great idea, kind of like wearing a cross by showing how you try to live
(: Keep up guys & g8rls !
22 November 2013 11:23
Margus Meigo commented on Teresa Lebamoff Alt's post.
Still better one then "kill the kennedy" one
22 November 2013 11:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
njea... mul saatus kaks korda andis moista vist et ei ole vaja mul rooli keerata :p
22 November 2013 11:14
Margus Meigo commented on William Floyd's post.
Group: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies Fans
Good Gwyllm ..but how come so many 5 stars..:))21 November 2013 09:51
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Kachanova's post.
my self in UK... for some time, doing , continnuing my spiritual jurney on streets
21 November 2013 09:47
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Kachanova's post.
howr u?
21 November 2013 09:46
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Kachanova's post.
lol , how soviet like :D
21 November 2013 09:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TurDey-7Lt4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TurDey-7Lt4
21 November 2013 09:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
ammu moelnud, et miskid affid neid asju... kui hasti toimivad igast huvitavateks tehnoloogiatena saaksid kasutada..
on miskit teemasi ette juhunud sellel ajal viimati
miskeid teemasi, kuid eks google ise annab paremaid
http://ezinearticles.com/?Binaural-Beat-Meditation-Can-Be-Dangerous&id=4046580
http://thetaobums.com/topic/23334-question-about-bwe-isochronic-tones-binaural-beats-etc/page-2
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120221141236AAEwKF8
http://www.deep-relaxation.co.uk/binaural_beats_explained.html
on miskit teemasi ette juhunud sellel ajal viimati
miskeid teemasi, kuid eks google ise annab paremaid
http://ezinearticles.com/?Binaural-Beat-Meditation-Can-Be-Dangerous&id=4046580
http://thetaobums.com/topic/23334-question-about-bwe-isochronic-tones-binaural-beats-etc/page-2
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120221141236AAEwKF8
http://www.deep-relaxation.co.uk/binaural_beats_explained.html
http://ezinearticles.com/?Binaural-Beat-Meditation-Can-Be-Dangerous&id=4046580
21 November 2013 09:43
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's photo.
Nagu eesti mets seal taga...
Taevalik :)
Taevalik :)
21 November 2013 09:33
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
see filiaeg paris head kohukrambid toi
21 November 2013 09:22
Margus Meigo commented on Only I can fight with my best friend, You say a word and you are dead.'s photo.
:D see hea tseen oli
21 November 2013 09:22
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
jeerum :D
21 November 2013 09:20
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
dooh
21 November 2013 09:20
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
nu jah.. tuttav lugu...
21 November 2013 09:19
Margus Meigo commented on Marijuana's photo.
stop moaning about 2000 years, as you know we mean to say ~6000
just misspelling,
Solved
(and stop moaning about dinosaur-uses and monkeys - there is much more epic things mentioned there like giants,fling machine, unicorns, dragons, creatures.. Ezekiel for starters...:p )
just misspelling,
Solved
(and stop moaning about dinosaur-uses and monkeys - there is much more epic things mentioned there like giants,fling machine, unicorns, dragons, creatures.. Ezekiel for starters...:p )
21 November 2013 09:09
Margus Meigo replied to Stedman Thomas's comment.
whatever :D
how they explain this white out spirit and mind power that is actually curing factor as ur thought clean, and this what is problem cause is lessening , going out from the body.. fro mind..
and yes, it DOES prevent, as it prepares ur mind
after right usage
to not end up with wrong food and thoughts
that are main cause.. of the problem... besides other possessions
but people try to see solutions a bit narrow ways.. we work hard to produce proofs ALSO in these ways how ONLY some people are willing to accept that what they see is true
just plain proof, logic, and self experience or old folklore wisdom seems not be ... for every new generation... for little while..
how they explain this white out spirit and mind power that is actually curing factor as ur thought clean, and this what is problem cause is lessening , going out from the body.. fro mind..
and yes, it DOES prevent, as it prepares ur mind
after right usage
to not end up with wrong food and thoughts
that are main cause.. of the problem... besides other possessions
but people try to see solutions a bit narrow ways.. we work hard to produce proofs ALSO in these ways how ONLY some people are willing to accept that what they see is true
just plain proof, logic, and self experience or old folklore wisdom seems not be ... for every new generation... for little while..
21 November 2013 08:40
Margus Meigo replied to Shalynn Nicole Walker's comment.
emm.. some jokers say that sigarets and weed is like same kind of... its be on funny, really.
I can not see Marbolo clinics.. or medical studies that rec to smoke cigarettes...
Have seeen thought that eating 5 cigarettes can kill a human,
Eating 200 gram of weed will give you memorable pleasant high for days (with some exceptions about pleasant part but you will feel good later on... for sure)
and yea, to think weed selling is some new age trick .. chmone people, have you used really? What about... taking some stronger dellics and then re-smoke again with spirituality (JHYH?) in a mind ?
U see a changes now ?
I can not see Marbolo clinics.. or medical studies that rec to smoke cigarettes...
Have seeen thought that eating 5 cigarettes can kill a human,
Eating 200 gram of weed will give you memorable pleasant high for days (with some exceptions about pleasant part but you will feel good later on... for sure)
and yea, to think weed selling is some new age trick .. chmone people, have you used really? What about... taking some stronger dellics and then re-smoke again with spirituality (JHYH?) in a mind ?
U see a changes now ?
21 November 2013 08:35
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
so true :D
.. ja seened jms teema. Illuminaadi seisukohalt saan aru, et nagu vaja vb organiseeritumalt ja teadlikumalt kasutada kui nagu piiramise parast suurem osa eriti lambikaid labilt kasutab...
Kui see just hea treening cround pole selleks, et iga idioodijaoks valmis olla kui globaalseks munchimiseks laheb..
Et nagu meelega suunatud tarkadele, lammastele ja extreem kasutusse praegu... et Ylalpool olijaD asja saaks ette plaanida ja igast senaarjute jaoks mida hull n6der inimene teha ja moelda voib kui valgust naeb voi tunneb... ja naeb..
.. ja seened jms teema. Illuminaadi seisukohalt saan aru, et nagu vaja vb organiseeritumalt ja teadlikumalt kasutada kui nagu piiramise parast suurem osa eriti lambikaid labilt kasutab...
Kui see just hea treening cround pole selleks, et iga idioodijaoks valmis olla kui globaalseks munchimiseks laheb..
Et nagu meelega suunatud tarkadele, lammastele ja extreem kasutusse praegu... et Ylalpool olijaD asja saaks ette plaanida ja igast senaarjute jaoks mida hull n6der inimene teha ja moelda voib kui valgust naeb voi tunneb... ja naeb..
21 November 2013 08:28
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
See ikke tosiselt ajas naerma :D
21 November 2013 08:25
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
panid ka allkirja tashtsin kysida kuid wwwhhat a .. "Page Not Found
Sorry, but you are looking for something that isn't here"
nice one eesti adminnid... nice one
Sorry, but you are looking for something that isn't here"
nice one eesti adminnid... nice one
21 November 2013 08:24
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
paris ulmekad vennad :D
21 November 2013 08:22
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
nu jah noh, suht reaalne ka :D
21 November 2013 08:21
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
Loodame, et see uuem uus aasta veel uuemini parem tuleb :)
21 November 2013 06:17
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's photo.
Ime kena :)
21 November 2013 06:14
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
Sa Alati ju meeles igavesti Marge :)
21 November 2013 06:13
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
See natuke jah, mojub CVile oovastavalt.. jargmisel tyyvestlusel:
"Kuidas sul eelmisel tyyvestlusel laks"
"Mind arreteeriti enne selle loppu..."
"Kuidas sul eelmisel tyyvestlusel laks"
"Mind arreteeriti enne selle loppu..."
21 November 2013 05:00
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
mingi sitapea vist
21 November 2013 04:58
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
True, True,.. kuid jah.. on veel tuhmide silmadega inimesi kes oigeid silmi vahest ara ei tunne.. kuid see selleks :)
21 November 2013 04:56
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's link.
..temalt peaks palju oppima seni kuni veel saame..
21 November 2013 04:55
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's link.
See Jumala lahe mamm :))
21 November 2013 04:54
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
Psyhiaater Peksis Segast :D
21 November 2013 04:54
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
Kuid jah.. ega siin muud ple midagi teha kui vaestele talongi systeem anda mis enamustes supermarketites toimiks, loogiline ju et pole vaja toetada neid valismaa miljardilisi suurfirmasi.. kui lihtsalt selle parast, et osa inimesi raskustes soltuvuse voi loogikaga on ei tohiks teisi ausaid vanemaid ja nende lapsi karistada n2lgimisega...
Seega jah, talongid, Halooo, kui keeruline see olla saab ? :D
Seega jah, talongid, Halooo, kui keeruline see olla saab ? :D
21 November 2013 04:53
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's photo.
Sul uus koer v?
21 November 2013 04:51
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
ple pasteeti ammu ammu syynud... Mmmm :)
21 November 2013 04:50
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
(Y) i .se imev transport
Paris hea, Eestis neil reklaam suht tasuta oleks :D
Paris hea, Eestis neil reklaam suht tasuta oleks :D
21 November 2013 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
mis tahendab?
21 November 2013 04:40
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
... ehk koik need riistad jaavad AjaLukku .. Minevikku.. alatiseks
21 November 2013 04:39
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
valu punanahkadele!
21 November 2013 04:33
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
.. uus tulekul uus tulekul... Kuidas uus tuleb?
Parem kui eelmise lopp ?
Parem kui eelmise lopp ?
21 November 2013 04:32
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
sellel rohelisel paris hea keerdega ratas..
21 November 2013 04:31
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
hea naha, et sa oma artistiliku huumorimeelt pole unustanud (Y)
21 November 2013 04:30
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
liiga hea :D
21 November 2013 04:29
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
:D:D:D (Y)
21 November 2013 04:29
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
Sobib Sulle, prillid olid juba enne olemas... seega jah
21 November 2013 04:29
Margus Meigo commented on Raido Nagel's photo.
See nii hea pilt, mida siin v2lis ilmas linna inimestele naidaga presentatsioonis: "Nae, sellised on normaalsed Eestlased (see seal elab linnas muidu..) "
... pidin eesti presentatsiooni siin genereerima nagunii EU raames.. et seda pilti kasutada voib v tulevikus? : )
... pidin eesti presentatsiooni siin genereerima nagunii EU raames.. et seda pilti kasutada voib v tulevikus? : )
21 November 2013 04:25
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
oioi.. nii kena lind ja kenasti ka seal... et peaaegu ei tahakski ara votta kui paris linnuga tegu poles
Mis lind see un ?
Mis lind see un ?
21 November 2013 04:23
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
..kuidas kuulda votnud olen.. nu eestlane aeglase loomuga..
pidavat olema
pidavat olema
21 November 2013 04:21
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
Mul isa soovitas ike moistlikume asju :p
21 November 2013 04:21
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
Suur ode :))
21 November 2013 04:20
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
Vaga kenad : ))
Vaatsin algul, et sul rinnus see inglise rojal moon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Royal_British_Legion%27s_Paper_Poppy_-_white_background.jpg
Vaatsin algul, et sul rinnus see inglise rojal moon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Royal_British_Legion%27s_Paper_Poppy_-_white_background.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Royal_British_Legion%27s_Paper_Poppy_-_white_background.jpg
21 November 2013 04:19
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
Wou, tubli miis! :)
21 November 2013 04:17
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Kas sa ise ei taha miskit kiiresti kokku kloppsida mone portaali abil mis valmis lahendusi pakub voi millist kodukat mille jaoks vaja on.. ehk saan lappari varsti siin ja siis prygikastidevahel natuke wifit korjates saaks midagi basicut kokku panna mida ise muuta saad seni kuni paris tegija saad parema asja jaoks (kuigi ausalt suurem osa neist leiutab jalgrattaid voi teeb valmis lahenduse teeskluse mottes enda omaks ja siis kysib naeratus suul raske 4 tunni tyy eest 3 kilo eeku, voi meil eurod nyyd vist kyll aga...)
Et mis soovid umbes on, kas leidisd juba ?
Et mis soovid umbes on, kas leidisd juba ?
21 November 2013 04:16
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Nu jah, yhel sormus kadunud, teisel sormuse omanik...
eks ta nii elus ole...
eks ta nii elus ole...
21 November 2013 04:13
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Tarmo oma raudselt
21 November 2013 04:11
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
vaou, selle keemilise puhastusega tuli vist kaamera silma puhastus ka kaasa
21 November 2013 04:10
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
ei lainud p...se hoopis treilal ju
21 November 2013 04:09
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
see raudselt mingisugune trik...mul kohe selline eelaimus
21 November 2013 04:07
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
xD
Vaga hea, meeldib kui inimesed veel muhedat fantaasiat ja sobraliku huumorit reklaamides kasutavad
Vaga hea, meeldib kui inimesed veel muhedat fantaasiat ja sobraliku huumorit reklaamides kasutavad
21 November 2013 04:05
Margus Meigo commented on Raido Nagel's photo.
ma sain onneks vabaks
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1022534080350&set=a.1022531160277.2004191.1135161043&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1022534080350&set=a.1022531160277.2004191.1135161043&type=3&theater
21 November 2013 04:02
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
Maletan Enit ka vast oli yhes neis kettides.. ja pandi teine igast raskeid asju tirima ja ringi ratast siblima nii et jalad tules...
Oh Eesti..
arvutan, et..
330-500 Rent Kesklinnas 1tuba /200-340 Linnast Valjas
130-230Eur Utilities for 85m2
20Eur Kuupilet
15-20Eur Internet
70-150Eur kuus toit? Kui kuivikuid syya..
Umbe 500 ikka kuus kulub ara, vaga kuivikute peal teoreetiliselt saab 400ga ka hakkama, kui kahtlases korteris elada..
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/city_result.jsp?country=Estonia&cityTallinna Kultuuriväärtuste Amet
Then again..:
http://www.tlu.ee/en/studies/Practical-Information/Cost-of-living "On average, the cost of living in Tallinn is 300-400 EUR per month, NOT including accommodation."
https://ec.europa.eu/eures/main.jsp?lang=en&acro=living&catId=8696&parentId=7808&countryId=EE&langChanged=true
"Compared to other new Member States of the EU, Estonia is quite an expensive country. Prices vary by region and the most expensive city in Estonia is Tallinn"
"cost of a food basket for an average four-member family per week in June 2013 was EUR 69.95. Monthly utilities (gas, electricity, water) for a two-room flat are on average EUR 160,
however, in Tallinn this sum is significantly larger.."
Oh Eesti..
arvutan, et..
330-500 Rent Kesklinnas 1tuba /200-340 Linnast Valjas
130-230Eur Utilities for 85m2
20Eur Kuupilet
15-20Eur Internet
70-150Eur kuus toit? Kui kuivikuid syya..
Umbe 500 ikka kuus kulub ara, vaga kuivikute peal teoreetiliselt saab 400ga ka hakkama, kui kahtlases korteris elada..
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/city_result.jsp?country=Estonia&cityTallinna Kultuuriväärtuste Amet
Then again..:
http://www.tlu.ee/en/studies/Practical-Information/Cost-of-living "On average, the cost of living in Tallinn is 300-400 EUR per month, NOT including accommodation."
https://ec.europa.eu/eures/main.jsp?lang=en&acro=living&catId=8696&parentId=7808&countryId=EE&langChanged=true
"Compared to other new Member States of the EU, Estonia is quite an expensive country. Prices vary by region and the most expensive city in Estonia is Tallinn"
"cost of a food basket for an average four-member family per week in June 2013 was EUR 69.95. Monthly utilities (gas, electricity, water) for a two-room flat are on average EUR 160,
however, in Tallinn this sum is significantly larger.."
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/city_result.jsp?country=Estonia&city
21 November 2013 03:53
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
Nu jah.. siin meeldi nuppu vajutada ei saa..
Kuigi ise vahem kui saja euroga viimasel 12 kuul elanud siis ikkegi, normaalselt miskit korterit, mobiili..toitu (kuigi see rimi koleegidele tasuta peaks olema ju.. dooh) ... ja lastest vist yldse eriti raakida ei saagi, kui Linnas elada.
Njeah.. toit peaks olema tasuta, elamine vahemalt yhika mottes pakutud.. ja tyykohta peaks promeerima aint nendele vaestemaile kellele sellised tingimused vastuvoetavad on (keskooli haridust noudma kyll sellise palga eest kohe kindlasti noudma ei peaks..)
Kuigi ise vahem kui saja euroga viimasel 12 kuul elanud siis ikkegi, normaalselt miskit korterit, mobiili..toitu (kuigi see rimi koleegidele tasuta peaks olema ju.. dooh) ... ja lastest vist yldse eriti raakida ei saagi, kui Linnas elada.
Njeah.. toit peaks olema tasuta, elamine vahemalt yhika mottes pakutud.. ja tyykohta peaks promeerima aint nendele vaestemaile kellele sellised tingimused vastuvoetavad on (keskooli haridust noudma kyll sellise palga eest kohe kindlasti noudma ei peaks..)
21 November 2013 03:33
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
Mis ta jalaga hoidis gaasi peal kui ta pysti seisis soites v..voi nagu need tsiklad ise hoiavad gaasi jooksmas? .. et nagu suurem osa vist meist ei saaks muidu peapeal seismisega hakkama.. raakimata tagurgipidi tsikklil ketsi andes :D
Vaga timmilt kanseldab oma sopra :)
Vaga timmilt kanseldab oma sopra :)
21 November 2013 03:28
Margus Meigo commented on Stella Leima's link.
Nu need kaamerad head, loodetavasti teevad kohustuslikuks koikidel politseidel need... va mingi linna politsei, komunaal mendid vms, et kes paranoilisemaid voi tundlike inimesi kanseldaks...
sest mitte usklikud inimesed endiselt arvavad, et neil midagi varjata.. ja et koik pole avalik mis nad teevad... et liialt suur shok kui keegi kaameraga tuleb see aeg kui yks omal roll uppi teeb..
sest mitte usklikud inimesed endiselt arvavad, et neil midagi varjata.. ja et koik pole avalik mis nad teevad... et liialt suur shok kui keegi kaameraga tuleb see aeg kui yks omal roll uppi teeb..
19 November 2013 21:01
Margus Meigo commented on Marijuana's photo.
Have not been expressing smile on public for long time
this made my day
this made my day
19 November 2013 20:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Today's task: Find yourself from the list, few times
18 November 2013 21:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Not to forget that this people mentioned under the list do not have normal human rights, in fact, they have at any given point of time none... at all
18 November 2013 21:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(arge unustage - terroristide vastu ja suhtes on "igaks juhuks" eri meetmed ja nad ei kuulu inimoiguste alla..)
18 November 2013 21:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Tanane ylesanne: Leia ennast listist (mitu korda)
18 November 2013 21:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
..this what i am taking in to account time by time.. xD
18 November 2013 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on Rein Vanja's post.
Group: Vabade Kodanike Ühendus
kikilips teeb mehe...
(:18 November 2013 15:49
Margus Meigo commented on LGBT News's photo.
yes, and i do like my own post (just in case no one else does (:
gay people need High help. nature medicine... and much more.
And everyone who has mixed up sex organs or feelings is not same level or same reason gay. there is a lot of in the spectrum of what is Needed by souls (means, there is reason for some special people) .. and in the other side of dark spectrum really, deep dark (talking about raping priests who according to gay prostitute was reason why he was as he was...)
Most other gays also have been abused in youth or as a part of project (some cults show off that they can change human sexuality with in seconds ... not sure how, most look in to some of them, ask directly if need names and lets investigate as one, these dark powers... who try to mess with us, humans, and with our main powers that can get us to places we have hard time to imagine... as we live in times when many of us have even hard time to think about other life forms among us, and before human history .. and wars that are way way stronger level then physical weaponry ... )
gay people need High help. nature medicine... and much more.
And everyone who has mixed up sex organs or feelings is not same level or same reason gay. there is a lot of in the spectrum of what is Needed by souls (means, there is reason for some special people) .. and in the other side of dark spectrum really, deep dark (talking about raping priests who according to gay prostitute was reason why he was as he was...)
Most other gays also have been abused in youth or as a part of project (some cults show off that they can change human sexuality with in seconds ... not sure how, most look in to some of them, ask directly if need names and lets investigate as one, these dark powers... who try to mess with us, humans, and with our main powers that can get us to places we have hard time to imagine... as we live in times when many of us have even hard time to think about other life forms among us, and before human history .. and wars that are way way stronger level then physical weaponry ... )
18 November 2013 14:46
Margus Meigo commented on LGBT News's photo.
So if assholes can get marred we should be open to asshole lovers as well
by rejecting religious/spiritual point of view where we are pretty sure of the danger of possessions and anti-human behaviors in the group of people like that.
There might be a bit or a lot of difference between Lesbian and Pederasts (as first are/can be psychological healing or blockage for bad experiences from retarded man, so She is looking sensitivity and trust that was lost from other side of Cosmic Twin .. but in man.. what are they looking besides sexual pleasure and inner group arrogance - belonging to a "group" who feels similar arrogant ways... and ignoring the SO clearly seen ANTI HUMAN behavior (just audio tape some of the talks from gay underground, its creepy at least ) )
I know, its perhaps hard to imagine .. or rather accept extra beings from other worlds who try to penetrate our species in any way they can - they can, play in bought sides of bad, straight and gay. this is deepest penetration of our soul - sex
by replacing sex - the holiest of human acts, with simple pleasure.. we are being told by our own friends more and more often - Its OK, ... its just a penises and pussy
but its not "just"
Have you guys have the tantra.. cosmic experiences when you feel souls joined and no time and.. ?
this should be normal part of sex...
But yeah... i know... how this rambling looks: pretty not smart, will work on it, as the one who we are up against is pretty smart (to say at least) .. and IT has penetrated in our minds, cultures, and complexes ... really deep.. so its seems normal to protect gay side with smile on the face when we should be feeling much more deeper emotions about it. this.
And yes, these assholes should be charged whit healing-prison-education sentence on sarge of messing whit most high, on not respecting the highest we can be in contact in this Earth, the Woman
.;.
by rejecting religious/spiritual point of view where we are pretty sure of the danger of possessions and anti-human behaviors in the group of people like that.
There might be a bit or a lot of difference between Lesbian and Pederasts (as first are/can be psychological healing or blockage for bad experiences from retarded man, so She is looking sensitivity and trust that was lost from other side of Cosmic Twin .. but in man.. what are they looking besides sexual pleasure and inner group arrogance - belonging to a "group" who feels similar arrogant ways... and ignoring the SO clearly seen ANTI HUMAN behavior (just audio tape some of the talks from gay underground, its creepy at least ) )
I know, its perhaps hard to imagine .. or rather accept extra beings from other worlds who try to penetrate our species in any way they can - they can, play in bought sides of bad, straight and gay. this is deepest penetration of our soul - sex
by replacing sex - the holiest of human acts, with simple pleasure.. we are being told by our own friends more and more often - Its OK, ... its just a penises and pussy
but its not "just"
Have you guys have the tantra.. cosmic experiences when you feel souls joined and no time and.. ?
this should be normal part of sex...
But yeah... i know... how this rambling looks: pretty not smart, will work on it, as the one who we are up against is pretty smart (to say at least) .. and IT has penetrated in our minds, cultures, and complexes ... really deep.. so its seems normal to protect gay side with smile on the face when we should be feeling much more deeper emotions about it. this.
And yes, these assholes should be charged whit healing-prison-education sentence on sarge of messing whit most high, on not respecting the highest we can be in contact in this Earth, the Woman
.;.
18 November 2013 14:38
Margus Meigo commented on Aurelius Sarapuu's post.
Group: Vabade Kodanike Ühendus
Vahest me unustame mis asi SOJAVagi un... ehk KaitseVagi pole kyll sama - st, nad de-hunamization programmi vast ei pea labi tegema.. kuid mine tea, eks seal olnud tea paremini. (Normaalne inimene kes ajus arenenud oigesti on ei saa teist ilma treeninguta tappa)
Meeltetuletusi ajaloost:
When we think of dehumanization during World War II our minds turn to the Holocaust, but it wasn't only the Germans who dehumanized their enemies. While the architects of the Final Solution were busy implementing their lethal program of racial hygiene, the Russian-Jewish poet and novelist Ilya Ehrenburg was churning out propaganda for distribution to Stalin's Red Army. These pamphlets seethed with dehumanizing rhetoric: they spoke of "the smell of Germany's animal breath," and described Germans as "two-legged animals who have mastered the technique of war" — "ersatz men" who ought to be annihilated. "The Germans are not human beings," Ehrenburg wrote, "... If you kill one German, kill another — there is nothing more amusing for us than a heap of German corpses."
This wasn't idle talk. The Wehrmacht had taken the lives of 23 million Soviet citizens, roughly half of them civilians. When the tide of the war finally turned, a torrent of Russian forces poured into Germany from the east, and their inexorable advance became an orgy of rape and murder. "They were certainly egged on by Ehrenburg and other Soviet propagandists..." writes journalist Giles McDonough:
East Prussia was the first German region visited by the Red Army ... In the course of a single night the red army killed seventy-two women and one man. Most of the women had been raped, of whom the oldest was eighty-four. Some of the victims had been crucified ... A witness who made it to the west talked of a poor village girl who was raped by an entire tank squadron from eight in the evening to nine in the morning. One man was shot and fed to the pigs.
http://www.npr.org/2011/03/29/134956180/criminals-see-their-victims-as-less-than-human
Veel halba lugemist:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/dehumanization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization (mida unustatakse yelda, et see basic, TAVALINE osa enamustest sojav2e treeningutest - psyholoogia muutmine, et saaksid tappa ja mitte hulluks minna)
Experimente, http://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/nicholas.epley/WaytzEpleyJESP2012.pdf (teaduslikuma poole pealt, experiemntal socsial psy)http://www.npr.org/2011/03/29/134956180/criminals-see-their-victims-as-less-than-human
18 November 2013 14:10
Margus Meigo commented on Pier Marco Marafante's post.
Group: www.acins.eu
Secret from who ?18 November 2013 13:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu2DcHzokew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu2DcHzokew
16 November 2013 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on Φήβος Φήβος's post.
interesting actually.. the world is SO interesting , unless we try hard to not be interested... close our eyes and ears and heart... ...
16 November 2013 16:21
Margus Meigo commented on Aurelius Sarapuu's post.
Group: Vabade Kodanike Ühendus
Enamasti NATO ike vist annab (peaks andma) kasu mis Meie riigi huvidega kooskolas on ... or else.. ;p15 November 2013 16:32
Margus Meigo commented on Saale Kareda's link.
Langile keegi psyhadeelikume on soovitanud?
Et peale parajat kuuri igast muude peenemate joudude olemasolu tuleb ilmsiks vast igasuguse lauba jauks.. ja siis jalle saab tagasi eelmise isiku juurde minna ja seda Toorest Joudu kasutada effektiivselt, seal kus ja kuidas vaja... ilma lilleaias meeletult ringi tatsamata..
Ohh.. kuid millegisellise soovitamine, see iseomamoodi fantaaSia ole..
Et peale parajat kuuri igast muude peenemate joudude olemasolu tuleb ilmsiks vast igasuguse lauba jauks.. ja siis jalle saab tagasi eelmise isiku juurde minna ja seda Toorest Joudu kasutada effektiivselt, seal kus ja kuidas vaja... ilma lilleaias meeletult ringi tatsamata..
Ohh.. kuid millegisellise soovitamine, see iseomamoodi fantaaSia ole..
15 November 2013 13:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So yeah... In system thinks first most likely option for living me before Viljandi and UK is Uran... nice
11 November 2013 22:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
That might have been the original by Frank:
Frequently (& mistakenly) attributed to Andy Rooney, the article ‘In Praise of Older Women’ by Frank Kaiser is a great example of a different (as in not mainstream) perspective on aging & particularly of older women.
Here’s some of what he has to say…
When I was 20, I had eyes only for girls my age. Any woman over 30 was ancient, over 40 invisible.
Today, now in my 70s, I still appreciate the 20-year-old for her youthful looks, vigor, and (occasional) sweet innocence.
As I grow in age, I value mature ladies most of all. Here are just a few of the reasons senior men sing the praises of older women:
An older woman will never ask out of the blue, “What are you thinking?” An older woman doesn’t care what you think.
An older woman has been around long enough to know who she is, what she wants, and from whom. By the age of 50, few women are wishy-washy. About anything. Thank God!
Older women are forthright and honest. They’ll tell you right off that you are a jerk if you’re acting like one. A young woman will say nothing, fearing that you might think worse of her. An older woman doesn’t give a damn.
Older women are sublime. They seldom contemplate having a shouting match with you at the opera or in the middle of an expensive dinner. Of course, if you deserve it, they won’t hesitate to shoot you if they think they can get away with it.
Women get psychic as they age. You never have to confess your sins to an older woman. Like your mother, they always know.
Yes, we geezers praise older women for a multitude of reasons. These are but a few.
Unfortunately, it’s not reciprocal.
For every stunning, smart, well-coifed babe of 75 there’s a bald, paunchy relic with his yellow pants belted at his armpits making a fool of himself with some 22-year-old waitress.
Ladies, I apologize for my fellow geezers. That men are genetically inferior is no secret. Count your blessings that we die off at a far younger age, leaving you the best part of your lives to enjoy and appreciate the exquisite woman you’ve become. Without the distraction of some demanding old coot clinging and whining his way into your serenity.
http://life-lenses.com/2012/03/27/in-praise-of-older-women-by-frank-kaiser/
Frequently (& mistakenly) attributed to Andy Rooney, the article ‘In Praise of Older Women’ by Frank Kaiser is a great example of a different (as in not mainstream) perspective on aging & particularly of older women.
Here’s some of what he has to say…
When I was 20, I had eyes only for girls my age. Any woman over 30 was ancient, over 40 invisible.
Today, now in my 70s, I still appreciate the 20-year-old for her youthful looks, vigor, and (occasional) sweet innocence.
As I grow in age, I value mature ladies most of all. Here are just a few of the reasons senior men sing the praises of older women:
An older woman will never ask out of the blue, “What are you thinking?” An older woman doesn’t care what you think.
An older woman has been around long enough to know who she is, what she wants, and from whom. By the age of 50, few women are wishy-washy. About anything. Thank God!
Older women are forthright and honest. They’ll tell you right off that you are a jerk if you’re acting like one. A young woman will say nothing, fearing that you might think worse of her. An older woman doesn’t give a damn.
Older women are sublime. They seldom contemplate having a shouting match with you at the opera or in the middle of an expensive dinner. Of course, if you deserve it, they won’t hesitate to shoot you if they think they can get away with it.
Women get psychic as they age. You never have to confess your sins to an older woman. Like your mother, they always know.
Yes, we geezers praise older women for a multitude of reasons. These are but a few.
Unfortunately, it’s not reciprocal.
For every stunning, smart, well-coifed babe of 75 there’s a bald, paunchy relic with his yellow pants belted at his armpits making a fool of himself with some 22-year-old waitress.
Ladies, I apologize for my fellow geezers. That men are genetically inferior is no secret. Count your blessings that we die off at a far younger age, leaving you the best part of your lives to enjoy and appreciate the exquisite woman you’ve become. Without the distraction of some demanding old coot clinging and whining his way into your serenity.
http://life-lenses.com/2012/03/27/in-praise-of-older-women-by-frank-kaiser/
http://life-lenses.com/2012/03/27/in-praise-of-older-women-by-frank-kaiser/
8 November 2013 19:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
“It's just the way things are. Take a moment to consider this statement. Really think about it. We send one species to the butcher and give our love and kindness to another apparently for no reason other than because it's the way things are. When our attitudes and behaviors towards animals are so inconsistent, and this inconsistency is so unexamined, we can safely say we have been fed absurdities. It is absurd that we eat pigs and love dogs and don't even know why. Many of us spend long minutes in the aisle of the drugstore mulling over what toothpaste to buy. Yet most of don't spend any time at all thinking about what species of animal we eat and why. Our choices as consumers drive an industry that kills ten billion animals per year in the United States alone. If we choose to support this industry and the best reason we can come up with is because it's the way things are, clearly something is amiss. What could cause an entire society of people to check their thinking caps at the door--and to not even realize they're doing so? Though this question is quite complex, the answer is quite simple: carnism.”
― Melanie Joy, Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows: An Introduction to Carnism: The Belief System That Enables Us to Eat Some Animals and Not Others
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/cows
― Melanie Joy, Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows: An Introduction to Carnism: The Belief System That Enables Us to Eat Some Animals and Not Others
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/cows
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/cows
8 November 2013 19:27
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Do you ?
8 November 2013 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on Jako Krull's link.
Yks ja sama moodus.. oot kas see postitatud juba Avalikude Kanepi Pooltajate gruppi?
8 November 2013 18:56
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Mis number enne oli ja mis number nyyd on ?
8 November 2013 18:55
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's post.
See hea
Kahjuks voi onneks ma ikka seal kahe maailma vahel proovin olla... kus fookuserin possibilititele kuidas probleeme opertunititeks teha, et neid lahendada...
Kahjuks voi onneks ma ikka seal kahe maailma vahel proovin olla... kus fookuserin possibilititele kuidas probleeme opertunititeks teha, et neid lahendada...
8 November 2013 18:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
you know me, only Marijuana
Clean
Clean
8 November 2013 18:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://imgur.com/a/uCSg1
Nii, eestikeelesteatud piibli tolkes
(aeg otsas... panen tolke hiljem.. kuid ilus tolge eesti )
http://piibel.net/#q=nimi%20on
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eestikeelsed_piiblit%C3%B5lked
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehoova
Nii, eestikeelesteatud piibli tolkes
(aeg otsas... panen tolke hiljem.. kuid ilus tolge eesti )
http://piibel.net/#q=nimi%20on
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eestikeelsed_piiblit%C3%B5lked
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehoova
http://imgur.com/a/uCSg1
8 November 2013 00:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Greets Elly
7 November 2013 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh7OyhHzmVQ #
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh7OyhHzmVQ
7 November 2013 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's post.
(pikas motes)
6 November 2013 17:07
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's post.
Kaksi ikka alati parem :)
6 November 2013 17:07
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
True :D
4 November 2013 17:19
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
what happened with him ?
2 November 2013 18:18
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
me to
2 November 2013 18:18
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
he did not share my view that others are smarther seems
2 November 2013 18:17
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
but human thought might be infinetly deep..
2 November 2013 18:16
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
well.. universe, ofcourse is more
2 November 2013 18:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
last yea
2 November 2013 18:12
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
give me few of this anywhere places ...
31 October 2013 19:23
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
anywhere where ? :D
31 October 2013 19:23
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Simon's life event.
Vauaviiva, u become a man after all! :))
:p
:p
31 October 2013 19:22
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's post.
...maybe :)
31 October 2013 19:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Hows possible all these lovely people look so heavy on this pic.. did not notice before that..
31 October 2013 16:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Song is a bit 5A..and brit passport as well .. so yeah :p
31 October 2013 16:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
...jamps, et yks syyma pidin...
(. mmmaitsev)
(. mmmaitsev)
31 October 2013 16:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Skippisin fhasion binnidest :p
31 October 2013 16:27
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
thats good
30 October 2013 12:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
http://g3.nh.ee/images/pix/900x585/ef88d00f/kaelkirjak-65795220.jpg (MaaLeht.ee)
http://g3.nh.ee/images/pix/900x585/ef88d00f/kaelkirjak-65795220.jpg
30 October 2013 12:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Aww... http://www.estravel.ee/pics/news/kaelkirjak_kolmarden.jpg
http://estravel.ee/pics/news/kaelkirjak_kolmarden.jpg
30 October 2013 12:43
Margus Meigo commented on Olya Levistova's post.
maybe :)
29 October 2013 21:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
http://foto.dvaa.ee/images/pilt95.jpg
http://foto.dvaa.ee/images/pilt95.jpg
29 October 2013 21:48
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Kus veel pohuismist moeldakse kuid mite teismeliste vaatenurgast
"Ausalt öeldes olen ise samuti igasuguste abimeeste vastane, kes meie elu nii mugavaks teevad, et kõht ette kasvab, aga.... selle loo juures paneb mind ametkondade teatud isikute silmakirjalikkus ja pohhuism ikka kõvasti imestama. Inimesed, kes selle eest palka saavad, et antud küsimusi lahendama/süüvima peaksid, ei näita siin ülesse mitte mingit abivalmidust ja teine seltskond on need, kes ootavad pea liiva all, et las keegi on tangis ja tegutseb, aga hiljem on hea öelda, et mina kah mõtlesin ja rääkisin ja kündsin - nagu sääsk härjasarvel, kes koduväravas kärbest kohtas....
Ja tulemus oli selline, et kõik need 40 kirja, mis saatsin, delegeeriti automaatselt mõne ametnikuni vastata kaassoovitusega agressor rahustada, seega suure tõenäosusega ei jõudnud minu mure ei Õiguskantslerini, ei Keskkonnaministrini ja teab, kas üldse Keskkonnainspektsiooni peadirektorinigi....."
http://www.kalale.ee/sisu/NCwxMjc1NjE3LDEsMCwwLA/
Kuid yeah.. yldiselt... suur vahe on Zen Busdistlikul pohhuismil (Lau Tze..) .. ja sellel millest kala.ee ja jyrgen ligi raagivad...
Kuid vahest .. osati.. tegelt seni kuni vaenulikust sees pole... siis nood ismid vahest lahemal kui tunduda oskame.. kui pohjused ja vastused arvesse votame (yks maa loogikaga ei hooli ja teine korg meditatsiooonilise realizationi parast... kud jah..)
"Ausalt öeldes olen ise samuti igasuguste abimeeste vastane, kes meie elu nii mugavaks teevad, et kõht ette kasvab, aga.... selle loo juures paneb mind ametkondade teatud isikute silmakirjalikkus ja pohhuism ikka kõvasti imestama. Inimesed, kes selle eest palka saavad, et antud küsimusi lahendama/süüvima peaksid, ei näita siin ülesse mitte mingit abivalmidust ja teine seltskond on need, kes ootavad pea liiva all, et las keegi on tangis ja tegutseb, aga hiljem on hea öelda, et mina kah mõtlesin ja rääkisin ja kündsin - nagu sääsk härjasarvel, kes koduväravas kärbest kohtas....
Ja tulemus oli selline, et kõik need 40 kirja, mis saatsin, delegeeriti automaatselt mõne ametnikuni vastata kaassoovitusega agressor rahustada, seega suure tõenäosusega ei jõudnud minu mure ei Õiguskantslerini, ei Keskkonnaministrini ja teab, kas üldse Keskkonnainspektsiooni peadirektorinigi....."
http://www.kalale.ee/sisu/NCwxMjc1NjE3LDEsMCwwLA/
Kuid yeah.. yldiselt... suur vahe on Zen Busdistlikul pohhuismil (Lau Tze..) .. ja sellel millest kala.ee ja jyrgen ligi raagivad...
Kuid vahest .. osati.. tegelt seni kuni vaenulikust sees pole... siis nood ismid vahest lahemal kui tunduda oskame.. kui pohjused ja vastused arvesse votame (yks maa loogikaga ei hooli ja teine korg meditatsiooonilise realizationi parast... kud jah..)
http://www.kalale.ee/sisu/NCwxMjc1NjE3LDEsMCwwLA/
29 October 2013 21:23
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Yldiselt suht poh kas see loeb aga tegin yhe pohhusitliku uuringu kui pohui meil pohHuist un
(Instruktsioon: Vaata yle ja siis alles ava lehed)
Jürgen Ligi: "Pohhuism ei ole roppus!" (vaid vaenulik hoolimatus ja vihkamine riigivõimu vastu.)
Viimast osa ei pandud artikli peakirja kuna ajakirjanikul oli vist suht poh mis moodi see sisu muudab
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/elu/jurgen-ligi-pohhuism-ei-ole-roppus.d?id=27688567
(Paris hea artikel)
Vana hinge pohhuism
"Kui miski mind kadedaks teeb, siis selliste vanade hingede tasakaal ja pohhuism. Inimese hinge areng on üsna kummaline, noorena sebib see ringi ja kõik läheb talle korda, aga enne siit tasandilt lahkumist tulevad elud, kus lihtsalt elatakse olles omaette ja ..."
"reageerida kaasinimestele ainult siis, kui nad sinu juurde nõu või abi tulevad küsima. Sest ilma küsimata abistamine on alati vaimne..."
"Jah, ma kadestan selliseid vana hinge küpsusesse jõudnud hingi, kes suudavad seda maailma vaadelda nii, et näevad igaühe ebatäiuslikus olekus nende valitud tee suveräänsust ja ei ürita sel teel käimist forseerida."
http://ramlov.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/vana-hinge-pohhuism/
"Pohhuism on jõud ja hoolimine nõrkus"
http://badabadabadapipaaa.tumblr.com/post/38540352847/love-beautiful-smile-nails-girls-style-pink-picyou
"Pohhuism on moes"
K2rdil seal oli ka paris omaparane mote "Armastus ei saa olla otsast lõpuni puhas, puhas kui allikavesi. see ei saa olla lõputu, lõputu kui maailm. Armastus ei saaolla ainult valus, selles on ka midagi head, kasvõi natukene...."
http://lolwutk2rtt.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/tohoh-head-uut-aastat-mu-ilus.html ..kasvoi natuke..(what? ..aa know, me was there as wel..)
"Üldine tähtsuse kaotus, elagu pohhuism! "
"Alles hiljuti tabas mind suur masendus. Nimelt sain teada sõna „olgu“ tõelise tähenduse. Olin alati mõelnud, et olgu, on rõõmsameelne nõusolek. Nüüd tuli välja, et olgu tähendab kõige sügavamat ükskõiksust. Sain paljudele asjadele minevikus vastuseks olgu ja mõtlesin, et kõik ongi korras. Kui naiivne ma võisin olla! Mul tuli pisar silma mõeldes olukordadele, mil sain vastuseks olgu..."
http://thedarkfury.blogspot.co.uk/2009/05/uldine-tahtsuse-kaotus-elagu-pohhuism.html
Posts Tagged ‘Pohhuism’
Kell sai just 13.00. Astun jälle uksest välja. Seekord jätan ukse lahti, kuna mul pohhui, kui keegi midagi varastab… Õigupoolest pole ju sealt midagi varastada.
Äkki näen – bussijaama pole enam!! Hakkan laginal naerma. Inimesed vaatavad mind. Mind ei huvita see, et teised mind imelikuks peavad. Mu süda tundub kuidagi soojem. Huumor ju! Savisaar koondab bussijaamu! LOL
http://terminal.comule . com/tag/pohhuism/ (viimane aadress of fb poolt bannitud... kuid ei hakanud omaniku sellest teavitama kuna tal suht poh... pealegi pole ju abi kysitud..)
(Instruktsioon: Vaata yle ja siis alles ava lehed)
Jürgen Ligi: "Pohhuism ei ole roppus!" (vaid vaenulik hoolimatus ja vihkamine riigivõimu vastu.)
Viimast osa ei pandud artikli peakirja kuna ajakirjanikul oli vist suht poh mis moodi see sisu muudab
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/elu/jurgen-ligi-pohhuism-ei-ole-roppus.d?id=27688567
(Paris hea artikel)
Vana hinge pohhuism
"Kui miski mind kadedaks teeb, siis selliste vanade hingede tasakaal ja pohhuism. Inimese hinge areng on üsna kummaline, noorena sebib see ringi ja kõik läheb talle korda, aga enne siit tasandilt lahkumist tulevad elud, kus lihtsalt elatakse olles omaette ja ..."
"reageerida kaasinimestele ainult siis, kui nad sinu juurde nõu või abi tulevad küsima. Sest ilma küsimata abistamine on alati vaimne..."
"Jah, ma kadestan selliseid vana hinge küpsusesse jõudnud hingi, kes suudavad seda maailma vaadelda nii, et näevad igaühe ebatäiuslikus olekus nende valitud tee suveräänsust ja ei ürita sel teel käimist forseerida."
http://ramlov.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/vana-hinge-pohhuism/
"Pohhuism on jõud ja hoolimine nõrkus"
http://badabadabadapipaaa.tumblr.com/post/38540352847/love-beautiful-smile-nails-girls-style-pink-picyou
"Pohhuism on moes"
K2rdil seal oli ka paris omaparane mote "Armastus ei saa olla otsast lõpuni puhas, puhas kui allikavesi. see ei saa olla lõputu, lõputu kui maailm. Armastus ei saaolla ainult valus, selles on ka midagi head, kasvõi natukene...."
http://lolwutk2rtt.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/tohoh-head-uut-aastat-mu-ilus.html ..kasvoi natuke..(what? ..aa know, me was there as wel..)
"Üldine tähtsuse kaotus, elagu pohhuism! "
"Alles hiljuti tabas mind suur masendus. Nimelt sain teada sõna „olgu“ tõelise tähenduse. Olin alati mõelnud, et olgu, on rõõmsameelne nõusolek. Nüüd tuli välja, et olgu tähendab kõige sügavamat ükskõiksust. Sain paljudele asjadele minevikus vastuseks olgu ja mõtlesin, et kõik ongi korras. Kui naiivne ma võisin olla! Mul tuli pisar silma mõeldes olukordadele, mil sain vastuseks olgu..."
http://thedarkfury.blogspot.co.uk/2009/05/uldine-tahtsuse-kaotus-elagu-pohhuism.html
Posts Tagged ‘Pohhuism’
Kell sai just 13.00. Astun jälle uksest välja. Seekord jätan ukse lahti, kuna mul pohhui, kui keegi midagi varastab… Õigupoolest pole ju sealt midagi varastada.
Äkki näen – bussijaama pole enam!! Hakkan laginal naerma. Inimesed vaatavad mind. Mind ei huvita see, et teised mind imelikuks peavad. Mu süda tundub kuidagi soojem. Huumor ju! Savisaar koondab bussijaamu! LOL
http://terminal.comule . com/tag/pohhuism/ (viimane aadress of fb poolt bannitud... kuid ei hakanud omaniku sellest teavitama kuna tal suht poh... pealegi pole ju abi kysitud..)
http://ekspress.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/elu/jurgen-ligi-pohhuism-ei-ole-roppus.d?id=27688567
29 October 2013 21:14
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
seal koolis suht pohui mida opid
29 October 2013 20:46
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
true true
29 October 2013 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on Olya Levistova's post.
Well.. hope some mayor good posessions will happen on Halloween
29 October 2013 20:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
.. and the Illuminated role game transcripts ..
Peeps who have no jet joined in with project of these girls and guys.. well, join in - We are greatly nice :))
Peeps who have no jet joined in with project of these girls and guys.. well, join in - We are greatly nice :))
28 October 2013 21:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
28 October 2013 21:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
28 October 2013 21:09
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
" ... - The ability to generate nuclear explosions and wilfully transmit them through space and time to any desired location ..."
28 October 2013 20:48
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
vb sai ta selle auhinna sest kuulujutud saunas olid, et ta ei lubanud tuumapommi kasutamist mille kallal mitmed juudi teadlased nii saksamaal kui usas tootasid kas siis sunniviisiliselt loovad olles voi tahlikult..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein–Szilárd_letter
http://www.teslasociety.com/einstein.htm
http://www.ppu.org.uk/learn/infodocs/people/pp-einstein3.html
http://www.angelfire.com/droid/ioww2/
For more reading
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/02files/We_Had_Our_Chance.html
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/esp_tesla_2.htm
The Teller-Ulam design is the nuclear weapon design concept used in most of the world's nuclear weapons. Colloquially referred to as "the secret of the hydrogen bomb," because it employs hydrogen fusion to generate neutron. History doesn't have a patent from Tesla with a device with hydrogen that explodes but the Teller-Ulam design is aided by the Tesla Superconducting machine.
It is well recorded that through his experiments Tesla almost caused buildings to collapse through applied resonance to their structures. His theories in this regard explained how earthquake-force events could be artificially generated as a means to cause destruction. In addition, through his work in high-frequency high-voltage electrical currents, he was able to lay out the principles of particle beam weapons, and offered even to build one for the US military,
http://www.ancient-world-mysteries.com/tesla-secret-weapons-technology.html
".. significant body of evidence pointing to the fact that a whole new branch of physical science was explored during this period, quite apart from that considered to be ‘mainstream’. And that as a consequence of this, a set of almost fantastic military-technological breakthroughs were made that actively led to new weapons systems. They include:
- A means of causing artificial earthquakes
- The development of particle beam weapons
- Power systems that could tap almost unlimited energy from the Vacuum
- The ability to generate nuclear explosions and wilfully transmit them through space and time to any desired location
- Development of a means of propulsion involving anti-gravity methods based upon electricity and magnetism
In considering the list as given, of what would appear to be almost extraordinary capabilities, it would be well to know that none other than Nikola Tesla himself pioneered most of these fields. Officially, in terms of what physical-technological advancements made it into mainstream from Tesla’s work, only those things which were ‘none threatening’ to the establishment were allowed out. Thus was alternating current – developed by Tesla – considered ‘acceptable’ to the powers that be.. "
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/tesla.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein–Szilárd_letter
http://www.teslasociety.com/einstein.htm
http://www.ppu.org.uk/learn/infodocs/people/pp-einstein3.html
http://www.angelfire.com/droid/ioww2/
For more reading
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/02files/We_Had_Our_Chance.html
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/esp_tesla_2.htm
The Teller-Ulam design is the nuclear weapon design concept used in most of the world's nuclear weapons. Colloquially referred to as "the secret of the hydrogen bomb," because it employs hydrogen fusion to generate neutron. History doesn't have a patent from Tesla with a device with hydrogen that explodes but the Teller-Ulam design is aided by the Tesla Superconducting machine.
It is well recorded that through his experiments Tesla almost caused buildings to collapse through applied resonance to their structures. His theories in this regard explained how earthquake-force events could be artificially generated as a means to cause destruction. In addition, through his work in high-frequency high-voltage electrical currents, he was able to lay out the principles of particle beam weapons, and offered even to build one for the US military,
http://www.ancient-world-mysteries.com/tesla-secret-weapons-technology.html
".. significant body of evidence pointing to the fact that a whole new branch of physical science was explored during this period, quite apart from that considered to be ‘mainstream’. And that as a consequence of this, a set of almost fantastic military-technological breakthroughs were made that actively led to new weapons systems. They include:
- A means of causing artificial earthquakes
- The development of particle beam weapons
- Power systems that could tap almost unlimited energy from the Vacuum
- The ability to generate nuclear explosions and wilfully transmit them through space and time to any desired location
- Development of a means of propulsion involving anti-gravity methods based upon electricity and magnetism
In considering the list as given, of what would appear to be almost extraordinary capabilities, it would be well to know that none other than Nikola Tesla himself pioneered most of these fields. Officially, in terms of what physical-technological advancements made it into mainstream from Tesla’s work, only those things which were ‘none threatening’ to the establishment were allowed out. Thus was alternating current – developed by Tesla – considered ‘acceptable’ to the powers that be.. "
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/tesla.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein
28 October 2013 20:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
28 October 2013 19:26
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Killo's link.
Jurka sumiseb tumedalt nagu ta vist seal suts un ka posessed... ei tea kas ta spirituaalselt ennast nyydseks ara puhastanud voi tumedamaks muutunud ?
28 October 2013 18:31
Margus Meigo commented on Ofir Beigel's post.
Group: Bitcoin NYC
What is bizarre about Goat?
its.. ordinary animal, even Estonia has them
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Estonia/13485602046facebook.com
Estonia
28 October 2013 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on Stella Leima's post.
Wee :)
Aega kokku saada homme ? :))
Aega kokku saada homme ? :))
28 October 2013 18:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ka sisaliku tee kivil jätab jälje,
kuigi me seda ei näe.
Iga mõte, mis tuleb ja läheb,
jääb kuhugi alles.
See, mis sa naeratades kinkisid,
võib kunagi otsa saada,
aga naeratus jääb.
Rõõm, mida sa kinni püüda ei teadnud,
jääb igavesti ootama.
Isegi ütlemata jäänud sõnad
on mõttes öeldud
ja kuhugi tallele pandud.
Kuidas muidu meie lühikeste päevade arv
saab täita aja ääretud salved.
Kuidas muidu üksainus silmapilk
võib kivi paigalt veeretada.
See, kellele on vähe antud,
kannab seda oma südame kohal.
See, kellele on palju antud,
pillab kõik käest maha.
Kõigi teede pikkus ajas on võrdne.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhmacCxqo4g
Tosilugu jalle,.., vaga psydeelsed vennad... kuidas nii kosmos nii ilusatesse sonadesse panna.. mm kunstnikud :)
kuigi me seda ei näe.
Iga mõte, mis tuleb ja läheb,
jääb kuhugi alles.
See, mis sa naeratades kinkisid,
võib kunagi otsa saada,
aga naeratus jääb.
Rõõm, mida sa kinni püüda ei teadnud,
jääb igavesti ootama.
Isegi ütlemata jäänud sõnad
on mõttes öeldud
ja kuhugi tallele pandud.
Kuidas muidu meie lühikeste päevade arv
saab täita aja ääretud salved.
Kuidas muidu üksainus silmapilk
võib kivi paigalt veeretada.
See, kellele on vähe antud,
kannab seda oma südame kohal.
See, kellele on palju antud,
pillab kõik käest maha.
Kõigi teede pikkus ajas on võrdne.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhmacCxqo4g
Tosilugu jalle,.., vaga psydeelsed vennad... kuidas nii kosmos nii ilusatesse sonadesse panna.. mm kunstnikud :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhmacCxqo4g
26 October 2013 22:34
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Killo's link.
kamoon A ryhh oli v2gev!
Kui k2pp on maas siis tuju hea, viin on sees ja muust ei tea
elutruud lyyrikad
Kui k2pp on maas siis tuju hea, viin on sees ja muust ei tea
elutruud lyyrikad
26 October 2013 20:02
Margus Meigo commented on Piret FireFairy Meinberg's link.
see on omagood ja sambas see, et lye 100 000 inimese (minimum estimate 25 000 paevas) sureb nalga, ja siis loputu hulk mis me maksumaksja raha eest tapetakse, ahistatakse.. ja koike muud koledusi mis tehakse nii inimeste kui loodmadega kodudes, laborites... vooral maal oigust tuues... meie enda taga hoovis naabri pool...
vii need organid ja kurjad keda toetame tegeledes igapeava valega, pannes tubakat kopsudesse et syda ei saaks kiirata armastust jne, andes isegi selle tehnoloogia aretajatele raha et nad saaksid veel efektiivsemaid tooteid teha...
aksepteerides seda mis telekast tuleb mis desinitud vaga tarkade saikode poolt me laste ja meie motteid ymber programeerima.. et toota vagivalda.. perverte.. yksildust.. viha...
myrke mis motte vomie vahendamiseks... voi toidu kombinatsioone.. mis tervise vahendamiseks paevaselt poes saadaval...
...aju lainetsse sisse tuunivad soja tehnoloogiad mida mass skeilis aktiviseerida proovitakse siin ja seal ja palju muud oletavatavat.. mis palju jubedam mis olekul... tulekul.. ja olnud... tulnukatest vampiiride zomide ja kurjade ingliteni ...
Kuidas selle koige korval (kes iganes seda esimest poolt loetust toodab ja hoiab toimetamises ja tootmises... sest normaalsed inimesed ise arenedes seda ei teeks.. ja raha pole kysmus ega aim, valitsejatel ja majandajatel..)
...et kuidas selle koige korval see hiina asi siin yle fb erinevate kontodealt... nagu laviinina inimese emotsioone ylesse kytab...
nagu miski ennekuulmatult ...enee kuulamtu... paha... ja...
Hmm.. inimesed nii veidrad
vii need organid ja kurjad keda toetame tegeledes igapeava valega, pannes tubakat kopsudesse et syda ei saaks kiirata armastust jne, andes isegi selle tehnoloogia aretajatele raha et nad saaksid veel efektiivsemaid tooteid teha...
aksepteerides seda mis telekast tuleb mis desinitud vaga tarkade saikode poolt me laste ja meie motteid ymber programeerima.. et toota vagivalda.. perverte.. yksildust.. viha...
myrke mis motte vomie vahendamiseks... voi toidu kombinatsioone.. mis tervise vahendamiseks paevaselt poes saadaval...
...aju lainetsse sisse tuunivad soja tehnoloogiad mida mass skeilis aktiviseerida proovitakse siin ja seal ja palju muud oletavatavat.. mis palju jubedam mis olekul... tulekul.. ja olnud... tulnukatest vampiiride zomide ja kurjade ingliteni ...
Kuidas selle koige korval (kes iganes seda esimest poolt loetust toodab ja hoiab toimetamises ja tootmises... sest normaalsed inimesed ise arenedes seda ei teeks.. ja raha pole kysmus ega aim, valitsejatel ja majandajatel..)
...et kuidas selle koige korval see hiina asi siin yle fb erinevate kontodealt... nagu laviinina inimese emotsioone ylesse kytab...
nagu miski ennekuulmatult ...enee kuulamtu... paha... ja...
Hmm.. inimesed nii veidrad
26 October 2013 19:59
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
paneks kolm laiki su kommle kui saaks
26 October 2013 19:51
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
:D :D:D
26 October 2013 19:50
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Yea man!
26 October 2013 18:07
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Like Aliens
and shit..
among humanaty
and shit..
among humanaty
26 October 2013 18:05
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Kindlasti mitmeid inimesi kes kunagi ei maga...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Herpin
http://news.softpedia.com/news/This-Man-Has-Not-Been-Sleeping-For-34-Years-62224.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Sleep_Deprivation.shtml
http://io9.com/5871160/what-happens-when-you-really-cant-sleep-+-ever
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Herpin
http://news.softpedia.com/news/This-Man-Has-Not-Been-Sleeping-For-34-Years-62224.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Sleep_Deprivation.shtml
http://io9.com/5871160/what-happens-when-you-really-cant-sleep-+-ever
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Herpin
26 October 2013 16:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
ja video alla tekkis : "Want to see more from Bad Boys Blue? {Like Page}" .... emm.. hop,
good boys blue perhaps?
(:
1000 aastat kulub...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQf1ZCKsKK8&list=PLE4C0896124034D1E
siit sealt timmida lyyrikat siis .. hmm :)
good boys blue perhaps?
(:
1000 aastat kulub...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQf1ZCKsKK8&list=PLE4C0896124034D1E
siit sealt timmida lyyrikat siis .. hmm :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQf1ZCKsKK8
26 October 2013 16:06
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
... tegelevad
25 October 2013 13:34
Margus Meigo commented on Stella Leima's photo.
... and giving good thought for the world and possible greators
25 October 2013 13:11
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's link.
+ biibel ka veggie (ja neile kes ei suuda kasklusi pidada, kes hakaksid muidu inimesi syyma.. neile anti juhised milliseid loomi ohverdada omale toiduks... ja kuidas..)
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081015012009AAJkUug
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081015012009AAJkUug
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081015012009AAJkUug
25 October 2013 11:13
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's photo.
Whou... this is exactly the kind of dog my mother has, some kind of spirit at least would say so ..
and this dog am was feeling strong affection in Poland ...
Wou, thanks Luke : )
and this dog am was feeling strong affection in Poland ...
Wou, thanks Luke : )
21 October 2013 21:48
Margus Meigo commented on Stella Leima's photo.
Kas sa Jehoovas ka ? :)
21 October 2013 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on Stella Leima's link.
Nu mul londonis ka alla 30 poundi aastas kulunud... kuid seda ka sest et to tekkis iseenesest, if that counts : )
21 October 2013 21:31
Margus Meigo commented on Sandra Ashilevi's link.
chamoon sandra Sa seal peopl ka v? Suts upgrade mustamae pidudest :D
21 October 2013 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Kuni "peab olema vahemalt yks suur algustaht (number ja kymme jne) on paris tosi jup...
Eriti hea kui kogu profiili uuesti sisse trykkima pead, arritudes kapslocki sisse paned ja siis omale konto regad millele sisse ei saa
Eriti hea kui kogu profiili uuesti sisse trykkima pead, arritudes kapslocki sisse paned ja siis omale konto regad millele sisse ei saa
17 October 2013 18:55
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's post.
Umeanlovely,dominent andmystical?
15 October 2013 20:10
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's post.
cmone... no time for be bothered by small things liek that... you got something not comparable what they cant stole.. (well, thecnically maybe they can... but that another story.. )
14 October 2013 18:30
Margus Meigo commented on The Secret Mirror's link.
Why it redirects to scan website ?
11 October 2013 19:13
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Wake Up!
8 October 2013 21:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
..becouse Its OK, :)
"It's Ok"
I remember all the nights I used
to stay at home,
On the phone, all night long,
used to talk about the things
we'd really wanna do,
I believed in you,
I remember how you used to say,
Have no fear, It'll be ok,
When you told me anything you
want is possible,
we could have it all.
I believed in you,
I must have been a fool,
All my dreams were with
you...
I say it's ok,
I can promise you it's
alright, you ain't keeping
me up all night, no more,
You're not here but it's ok,
I assure you, babe, it's
alright, you ain't keeping me
up all night, no more,
You're not here but it's ok.
Well, now you got to where you
wanted like I knew you would,
Cash, car, house,
It's all good,
It's the way you never come around
here no more,
Like you did before.
You got it all thats the
way it seems,
looks like you,
live your dream,
And I hope your life has
turned out for the better now,
when I'm not around.
I believed in you,
I must have been a fool,
All my dreams were with
you...
I say it's ok,
I can promise you it's
alright, you ain't keeping
me up all night, no more,
You're not here but it's ok,
I assure you, babe, it's
alright, you ain't keeping me
up all night, no more, (no more)
You're not here but it's ok.
Its all right, it's okay [x3]
That you're not here with me
Its all right, it's okay [x3]
That you're not here with me
[Chorus]
I say it's ok,
I can promise you it's
alright, you ain't keeping
me up all night, no more,
You're not here but it's ok,
I assure you, babe, it's
alright, you ain't keeping me
up all night, no more, (no more)
You're not here but it's ok.
Its all right, it's okay [x3]
That you're not here with me
Its all right, it's okay [x3]
You're not here but it's ok.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7jSXWPHPkI
(..jes.. "skipped" /aka. found from side of road../ this CD as well, tonight :)
"It's Ok"
I remember all the nights I used
to stay at home,
On the phone, all night long,
used to talk about the things
we'd really wanna do,
I believed in you,
I remember how you used to say,
Have no fear, It'll be ok,
When you told me anything you
want is possible,
we could have it all.
I believed in you,
I must have been a fool,
All my dreams were with
you...
I say it's ok,
I can promise you it's
alright, you ain't keeping
me up all night, no more,
You're not here but it's ok,
I assure you, babe, it's
alright, you ain't keeping me
up all night, no more,
You're not here but it's ok.
Well, now you got to where you
wanted like I knew you would,
Cash, car, house,
It's all good,
It's the way you never come around
here no more,
Like you did before.
You got it all thats the
way it seems,
looks like you,
live your dream,
And I hope your life has
turned out for the better now,
when I'm not around.
I believed in you,
I must have been a fool,
All my dreams were with
you...
I say it's ok,
I can promise you it's
alright, you ain't keeping
me up all night, no more,
You're not here but it's ok,
I assure you, babe, it's
alright, you ain't keeping me
up all night, no more, (no more)
You're not here but it's ok.
Its all right, it's okay [x3]
That you're not here with me
Its all right, it's okay [x3]
That you're not here with me
[Chorus]
I say it's ok,
I can promise you it's
alright, you ain't keeping
me up all night, no more,
You're not here but it's ok,
I assure you, babe, it's
alright, you ain't keeping me
up all night, no more, (no more)
You're not here but it's ok.
Its all right, it's okay [x3]
That you're not here with me
Its all right, it's okay [x3]
You're not here but it's ok.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7jSXWPHPkI
(..jes.. "skipped" /aka. found from side of road../ this CD as well, tonight :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7jSXWPHPkI
3 October 2013 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
No mixed messages but..
if ya wish not then "Don't Stay"
Looking back on the years you see
It was you and me but I gave too much you see
And now it seems you've grown tired
And wanna walk away, but you feel obliged to stay
We break up and make up
And everything would be brand new
We gotta face up there ain't no make up
I said there's nothing left to do, and?
[CHORUS]
Don't stay, if you don't wanna stay
Baby I'll be okay, believe me when I say
I'ma be alright
Don't stay, if you don't wanna stay
Baby I'll be okay, believe me when I say
I'ma be alright
I'd rather be without you
Livin with you is too hard to take
And I know you don't feel the same
Cos it's written, it's written, it's written all over your face
Remember when we break up and make up
And everything would be brand new
We got to face up there ain't no make up
I said there's nothing left to do, and
It's so hard what I got to do, oh
I gotta make you leave, for both me and you
And it's so crazy how things have changed
Cos we ain't the same, and
I'm a be alright
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui0IgU7Ld6I
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_Stay_(Laura_Izibor_song)
if ya wish not then "Don't Stay"
Looking back on the years you see
It was you and me but I gave too much you see
And now it seems you've grown tired
And wanna walk away, but you feel obliged to stay
We break up and make up
And everything would be brand new
We gotta face up there ain't no make up
I said there's nothing left to do, and?
[CHORUS]
Don't stay, if you don't wanna stay
Baby I'll be okay, believe me when I say
I'ma be alright
Don't stay, if you don't wanna stay
Baby I'll be okay, believe me when I say
I'ma be alright
I'd rather be without you
Livin with you is too hard to take
And I know you don't feel the same
Cos it's written, it's written, it's written all over your face
Remember when we break up and make up
And everything would be brand new
We got to face up there ain't no make up
I said there's nothing left to do, and
It's so hard what I got to do, oh
I gotta make you leave, for both me and you
And it's so crazy how things have changed
Cos we ain't the same, and
I'm a be alright
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui0IgU7Ld6I
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_Stay_(Laura_Izibor_song)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui0IgU7Ld6I
3 October 2013 15:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
@ I thought I hear You say..
"Stay Another Day"
Baby if you`ve got to go away
I don`t think
I can take the pain
Won`t you stay another day
Oh don`t leave me alone like this
Don`t say it`s the final kiss
Won`t you stay another day
Don`t U know
We`ve come too far now
Just to go
And try to throw it all away
Thought I heard you say
You love me
That your love was gonna be here to stay
I`ve only just begun
To know you
All I can say is
Won`t you stay just one more day
Baby if you`ve got to go away
I don`t think
I can take the pain
Won`t you stay another day
Oh don`t leave me alone like this
Don`t say it`s the final kiss
Won`t you stay another day
Good times we had return
To haunt me
Though it`s for you
All that I do seem to be wrong
I touch your face while you are sleeping
And hold your hand
Don`t understand what`s going on
Baby if you`ve got to go away
I don`t think
I can take the pain
Won`t you stay another day
Oh don`t leave me alone like this
Won`t you stay another day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHFnpfJq6k
"Stay Another Day"
Baby if you`ve got to go away
I don`t think
I can take the pain
Won`t you stay another day
Oh don`t leave me alone like this
Don`t say it`s the final kiss
Won`t you stay another day
Don`t U know
We`ve come too far now
Just to go
And try to throw it all away
Thought I heard you say
You love me
That your love was gonna be here to stay
I`ve only just begun
To know you
All I can say is
Won`t you stay just one more day
Baby if you`ve got to go away
I don`t think
I can take the pain
Won`t you stay another day
Oh don`t leave me alone like this
Don`t say it`s the final kiss
Won`t you stay another day
Good times we had return
To haunt me
Though it`s for you
All that I do seem to be wrong
I touch your face while you are sleeping
And hold your hand
Don`t understand what`s going on
Baby if you`ve got to go away
I don`t think
I can take the pain
Won`t you stay another day
Oh don`t leave me alone like this
Won`t you stay another day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHFnpfJq6k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHFnpfJq6k
3 October 2013 15:38
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's post.
jup.. if you can remember in forgiveness
with smile and symphaty
with smile and symphaty
3 October 2013 15:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
...have you seen a man who..
28 September 2013 19:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
...aa mitute... how was >?
28 September 2013 18:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
jup
28 September 2013 18:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hows lovely family ?
Hows life .. still same or some bigger changes ?
Hows life .. still same or some bigger changes ?
28 September 2013 18:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJt51uwWKqs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJt51uwWKqs
28 September 2013 18:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
HD https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=415976085143504&set=vb.237592832981831
28 September 2013 18:10
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
shrooms shrooms shrooms... to
27 September 2013 18:44
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
Ma ei tea... koik filosofeerivad miskitel nodel teemadel ymberringi.. http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/KnightButler1.php nagu see tegelane (peaks olema Briti sele ala spetsim..)
Hakkame kokku panema viimast valikutega listi... mis reaalsuses keegi olla soovib ja mis on toenaoline toestatav tode, loppudelopuks??
Hakkame kokku panema viimast valikutega listi... mis reaalsuses keegi olla soovib ja mis on toenaoline toestatav tode, loppudelopuks??
http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/KnightButler1.php
27 September 2013 18:43
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
Proovin piiluda seda varsti, hea stuff tiri kovakale ka.. videod netist kaotsi laavad vahest
27 September 2013 17:40
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
Siit ka kamaluga juurde :))
23 September 2013 18:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
How come if i post something whorthwhile or related to life then only few are interested, must chanage my fb friends.. (mean, generaly not just right now)
But same time big part of my current contacts complain about how shallow and booribg people are..
weird world
But same time big part of my current contacts complain about how shallow and booribg people are..
weird world
20 September 2013 19:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Tutvused 18+
*globaal.. :)20 September 2013 18:42
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
but jeah, send like letters that make sense as well, not just narrow minded communist kind of demanding just in reasons that our life would be more easier , screw others who work hard for their living in this prison
20 September 2013 00:45
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
still wonderful it has been going on so long..
20 September 2013 00:43
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
arrgh... youtube is blocked here it seems..20 September 2013 00:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell Other guy to keep on mind
mythologist, writer and lecturer, best known for his work in comparative mythology and comparative religion. His work is vast, covering many aspects of the human experience. His philosophy is often summarized by his phrase: "Follow your bliss."
√ During his later years, when some students took him to be encouraging hedonism, Campbell is reported to have grumbled, "I should have said, 'Follow your blisters.'"
Campbell's concept of monomyth (one myth) refers to the theory that sees all mythic narratives as variations of a single great story. The theory is based on the observation that a common pattern exists underneath the narrative elements of most great myths, regardless of their origin or time of creation. This pattern, often referred to as the hero's journey, was first described in The Hero with a Thousand Faces (1949).An enthusiast of novelist James Joyce,Campbell borrowed the term from Joyce's Finnegans Wake. As a strong believer in the unity of human consciousness and its poetic expression through mythology, Campbell used this concept to express the idea that the whole of the human race can be seen as reciting a single story, whose great spiritual importance relates to our search for that basic and eternal force that is the source of all things and into which everything will return.
" God is a metaphor for a mystery that absolutely transcends all human categories of thought, even the categories of being and non-being. Those are categories of thought. I mean it's as simple as that. So it depends on how much you want to think about it. Whether it's doing you any good. Whether it is putting you in touch with the mystery that's the ground of your own being. If it isn't, well, it's a lie. So half the people in the world are religious people who think that their metaphors are facts. Those are what we call theists. The other half are people who know that the metaphors are not facts. And so, they're lies. Those are the atheists "
One of Campbell's most identifiable, most quoted and arguably most misunderstood sayings was his admonition to "follow your bliss." He derived this idea from the Upanishads:
Now, I came to this idea of bliss because in Sanskrit, which is the great spiritual language of the world, there are three terms that represent the brink, the jumping-off place to the ocean of transcendence: Sat-Chit-Ananda. The word "Sat" means being. "Chit" means consciousness. "Ananda" means bliss or rapture. I thought, "I don't know whether my consciousness is proper consciousness or not; I don't know whether what I know of my being is my proper being or not; but I do know where my rapture is. So let me hang on to rapture, and that will bring me both my consciousness and my being." I think it worked.[51]
He saw this not merely as a mantra, but as a helpful guide to the individual along the hero journey that each of us walks through life:
If you follow your bliss, you put yourself on a kind of track that has been there all the while, waiting for you, and the life that you ought to be living is the one you are living. Wherever you are—if you are following your bliss, you are enjoying that refreshment, that life within you, all the time
√ √ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Mann
mythologist, writer and lecturer, best known for his work in comparative mythology and comparative religion. His work is vast, covering many aspects of the human experience. His philosophy is often summarized by his phrase: "Follow your bliss."
√ During his later years, when some students took him to be encouraging hedonism, Campbell is reported to have grumbled, "I should have said, 'Follow your blisters.'"
Campbell's concept of monomyth (one myth) refers to the theory that sees all mythic narratives as variations of a single great story. The theory is based on the observation that a common pattern exists underneath the narrative elements of most great myths, regardless of their origin or time of creation. This pattern, often referred to as the hero's journey, was first described in The Hero with a Thousand Faces (1949).An enthusiast of novelist James Joyce,Campbell borrowed the term from Joyce's Finnegans Wake. As a strong believer in the unity of human consciousness and its poetic expression through mythology, Campbell used this concept to express the idea that the whole of the human race can be seen as reciting a single story, whose great spiritual importance relates to our search for that basic and eternal force that is the source of all things and into which everything will return.
" God is a metaphor for a mystery that absolutely transcends all human categories of thought, even the categories of being and non-being. Those are categories of thought. I mean it's as simple as that. So it depends on how much you want to think about it. Whether it's doing you any good. Whether it is putting you in touch with the mystery that's the ground of your own being. If it isn't, well, it's a lie. So half the people in the world are religious people who think that their metaphors are facts. Those are what we call theists. The other half are people who know that the metaphors are not facts. And so, they're lies. Those are the atheists "
One of Campbell's most identifiable, most quoted and arguably most misunderstood sayings was his admonition to "follow your bliss." He derived this idea from the Upanishads:
Now, I came to this idea of bliss because in Sanskrit, which is the great spiritual language of the world, there are three terms that represent the brink, the jumping-off place to the ocean of transcendence: Sat-Chit-Ananda. The word "Sat" means being. "Chit" means consciousness. "Ananda" means bliss or rapture. I thought, "I don't know whether my consciousness is proper consciousness or not; I don't know whether what I know of my being is my proper being or not; but I do know where my rapture is. So let me hang on to rapture, and that will bring me both my consciousness and my being." I think it worked.[51]
He saw this not merely as a mantra, but as a helpful guide to the individual along the hero journey that each of us walks through life:
If you follow your bliss, you put yourself on a kind of track that has been there all the while, waiting for you, and the life that you ought to be living is the one you are living. Wherever you are—if you are following your bliss, you are enjoying that refreshment, that life within you, all the time
√ √ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Mann
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell
20 September 2013 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
alive... but living on streets of london for now still
16 September 2013 21:20
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
meeles peaVAD*
16 September 2013 18:24
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
Ja veel paremaid soove siit ka juurde : ))))
16 September 2013 18:24
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
oot, kaks korda samasse varavasse,
nagu meelega v?
nagu meelega v?
8 September 2013 00:16
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Nee.. mulle meeldib su paris varv ylekoige
*kuid yea, vaga timm, et avastasid enne pahe panemist!
internetike ruulab, kuid mu version netist saab veel parem olema... kui kunagi olema saab
*kuid yea, vaga timm, et avastasid enne pahe panemist!
internetike ruulab, kuid mu version netist saab veel parem olema... kui kunagi olema saab
5 September 2013 15:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
streets mostly, andy*s also sometimes
2 September 2013 18:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
there is no leaking... all consept of hiding something is childish, whrom who anyone can hide and for what reason once one realises what we do ?
2 September 2013 15:13
Margus Meigo commented on Mohit Jajodia's life event.
for life is minimum ya should commite 2, in relation to Women
31 August 2013 14:01
Margus Meigo commented on Mohit Jajodia's life event.
You are one body now, take care of Your temple!
31 August 2013 13:02
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's post.
what did you do with the soft ware what was opened there ?
27 August 2013 21:07
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's post.
(am used to reactions like that lol)
27 August 2013 21:06
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's post.
No way :D
tell me, whats up in there (even more)?
tell me, whats up in there (even more)?
27 August 2013 21:05
Margus Meigo commented on Occupy London's post.
Remember, one time the oldest church in UK, or at least these who was on charge locally there for now .. did also homeless sleep out - and it cost 10 pounds to be in their grass (i mean, literally - grass.. not ten-bag one..)
So i was kind right place thought - no safe place to be, there is church, whit program to help people who sleep outside and there is people in yard sleeping there and sharing tea and stuff.
But in short, no
fellows did not let me in to the yard as i did not have 10 pounds to pay
True Story
So i was kind right place thought - no safe place to be, there is church, whit program to help people who sleep outside and there is people in yard sleeping there and sharing tea and stuff.
But in short, no
fellows did not let me in to the yard as i did not have 10 pounds to pay
True Story
25 August 2013 13:53
Margus Meigo commented on Occupy London's post.
Any good feedback ?
25 August 2013 13:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Like all anaesthetics, Ketamine prevents the user from feeling pain" ...
emotional pain as well? (for some time...)
well, anyway... this explains well why we are in to these little giving drug experiments..
Not something that would explain, heal the pain, but preventing the pain...
emotional pain as well? (for some time...)
well, anyway... this explains well why we are in to these little giving drug experiments..
Not something that would explain, heal the pain, but preventing the pain...
25 August 2013 13:47
Margus Meigo commented on Luís Carvalho's post.
Group: Be Creative
am not sayng anything25 August 2013 04:32
Margus Meigo commented on Monica Genoa's post.
Group: Be Creative
oo yeah25 August 2013 04:31
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's link.
nu jahh noh
25 August 2013 01:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
ja
kas saab nii olla,
et ma ei tea
vot seda ei tea
kas saab nii olla,
et ma ei tea
vot seda ei tea
25 August 2013 00:05
Margus Meigo commented on Seth Theodore Butcher's post.
thats all about how many homesless peeps we have
24 August 2013 23:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
ja samas`
tean et pean,
kuid seda kas kas teine teab voi ei tea
ja kas tohib valjendada voi mitte
seda ei tea
lihtsalt tean, et pean
tean et pean,
kuid seda kas kas teine teab voi ei tea
ja kas tohib valjendada voi mitte
seda ei tea
lihtsalt tean, et pean
24 August 2013 23:31
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's link.
loodan, et see eruskepticuline aint ei ole, lahen loen lahemalt : )
kolab juba ette ara paris hasti
kolab juba ette ara paris hasti
24 August 2013 16:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
But yeah, am not really so much beliving this is the way in all the way of life
specially in sex
specially in sex
24 August 2013 16:40
Margus Meigo commented on Aiste Gužaite's photo.
artistically awesame thought
22 August 2013 21:05
Margus Meigo commented on Aiste Gužaite's photo.
can be sweeter.. :)
22 August 2013 21:04
Margus Meigo commented on Did you make it home safely? "No, I died 35 times."'s photo.
lol,
:D good one
:D good one
22 August 2013 21:02
Margus Meigo commented on Vyte Murinaite's photo.
not a bastard at all :p
(bastard means: illegitimate child, french*)
(bastard means: illegitimate child, french*)
22 August 2013 20:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
22 August 2013 14:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
22 August 2013 14:36
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
irw, "soviet bloc had* nuclear weopons" ...
is there any updates about that we have less weapons right now...
um.. nop, not really
is there any updates about that we have less weapons right now...
um.. nop, not really
22 August 2013 14:11
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
lol @ cops, you are in facebook man if you have not noticed :D22 August 2013 14:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogx2LL8qk78
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogx2LL8qk78
21 August 2013 14:50
Margus Meigo commented on Dmitrijus Bozko's post.
Group: Be Creative
:D and lets not forget that we had LARP where we revealed the true... identity... of .... da... baNa-Na...na...11 August 2013 03:12
Margus Meigo commented on Dmitrijus Bozko's post.
Group: Be Creative
So where is it?11 August 2013 03:11
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Simon's post.
Kuid jah, mu raamatus need koik vaimse vaimu puuduse kandidaadid kes Usklikud ei ole
Ega tark inimene midagi ebatarka nii intelligentse systeemi kohta kui Usud kova haalega ei ytleks... ja nagu piibel raagib, et targad vaimuvaesetega ei vaidle
(see ei kainud siinse kohta otseselt mitte, lihtsalt yldine motisklus)
Ega tark inimene midagi ebatarka nii intelligentse systeemi kohta kui Usud kova haalega ei ytleks... ja nagu piibel raagib, et targad vaimuvaesetega ei vaidle
(see ei kainud siinse kohta otseselt mitte, lihtsalt yldine motisklus)
9 August 2013 19:30
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Simon's post.
Muide tulevikus arvatavasti inimene ei saagi olla psyhiaatrid kui neil vaimuliku haridust voi usku ei ole.,
Ma ei moista kuidas siiani seaduslik un, et psyhiaatrid kes pole usklikud voivad tegutseda ... mida nad siis ravivad kuid nad ei moista enamust mis me ymber voib olla ?
Kuid Ivo Myyri artikli link paris timm>
"I am talking about things like the belief that it is OK to beat your children. These beliefs are very harmful but are not normally categorized as mental illness
Technologies which profoundly change our relationship with the world around us cannot simply be tools, to be used for good or evil, if they alter our basic perception of what good and evil are."
for instance, the tendency to equate "fundamentalism" exclusively with radical Islamism is too tempting. But how much less "fundamentalist" than an Osama bin Laden is a nation of capitalist ideologues carpet bombing civilian urban areas in Laos, Cambodia and North Korea?
are of the same nature as the evangelical obsession with spreading the pseudo-religious ideology of capitalism which led to such horrendous crimes as the murder of hundreds of thousands of civilians in four years of carpet bombing operations by the Nixon administration
The power to control the mind will tend too readily to be used as weapon against our jihadist enemies while justifying the equally irrational and murderously harmful actions we term innocously "foreign policy."
/ ammu aega sama juba moelnud, et need asjad saab varsti yhiskonnas palju parama suuna alla votta psyholoogilise haire ja vaimu vaesuse diagnoosi kaudu
Ma ei moista kuidas siiani seaduslik un, et psyhiaatrid kes pole usklikud voivad tegutseda ... mida nad siis ravivad kuid nad ei moista enamust mis me ymber voib olla ?
Kuid Ivo Myyri artikli link paris timm>
"I am talking about things like the belief that it is OK to beat your children. These beliefs are very harmful but are not normally categorized as mental illness
Technologies which profoundly change our relationship with the world around us cannot simply be tools, to be used for good or evil, if they alter our basic perception of what good and evil are."
for instance, the tendency to equate "fundamentalism" exclusively with radical Islamism is too tempting. But how much less "fundamentalist" than an Osama bin Laden is a nation of capitalist ideologues carpet bombing civilian urban areas in Laos, Cambodia and North Korea?
are of the same nature as the evangelical obsession with spreading the pseudo-religious ideology of capitalism which led to such horrendous crimes as the murder of hundreds of thousands of civilians in four years of carpet bombing operations by the Nixon administration
The power to control the mind will tend too readily to be used as weapon against our jihadist enemies while justifying the equally irrational and murderously harmful actions we term innocously "foreign policy."
/ ammu aega sama juba moelnud, et need asjad saab varsti yhiskonnas palju parama suuna alla votta psyholoogilise haire ja vaimu vaesuse diagnoosi kaudu
9 August 2013 19:05
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Simon's post.
Eestlus on muide yks parimaid rahvuseid mis olla saab, vb isegi parim siinpool muna, kuid see selleks.
Suur vahe on ka miks ja mida ning kuidas raagitakse. Neil suht raske voib olla taiesti basic ideed arusaadavaks inimestele teha kes tihti veendunud, et moistavad mida neile raagitakse miks, kuid tegelikude arusaamade kokkuvotteks sobib yelda aint:
Tule taevas appi
http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=314%3Avaimulik-mote-2010-05&catid=58%3Avaimulik-mote&Itemid=1
*(seal vaata varskemaid ka... ja kuula hoolega, arvesta tulnukaid ka @((
Suur vahe on ka miks ja mida ning kuidas raagitakse. Neil suht raske voib olla taiesti basic ideed arusaadavaks inimestele teha kes tihti veendunud, et moistavad mida neile raagitakse miks, kuid tegelikude arusaamade kokkuvotteks sobib yelda aint:
Tule taevas appi
http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=314%3Avaimulik-mote-2010-05&catid=58%3Avaimulik-mote&Itemid=1
*(seal vaata varskemaid ka... ja kuula hoolega, arvesta tulnukaid ka @((
http://www.pereraadio.ee/uus/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=314%3Avaimulik-mote-2010-05&catid=58%3Avaimulik-mote&Itemid=1
9 August 2013 18:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
/ ur with Family? Greets, warm huggs to home as well @)
9 August 2013 18:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
...as long work keeps up me
9 August 2013 18:44
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's link.
ja motlemise mis korda teeb... see aitab palju.
armastus un ikka yle koige @)
armastus un ikka yle koige @)
9 August 2013 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Simon's post.
Kui moistad, et oled YKS keha, osake, nagu ... siis enda grupile ainiti rabelemine ei ole enam esiliinil
9 August 2013 18:25
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Simon's post.
Jehoova tegelased ma avastanud, et siiani koige rohkem oige poindi peal, ilma igast imelike raha skeemide ja liidriteta. Raagivad suht puhtalt kuidas asjad on ja mida teha mida mitte, inimesena
9 August 2013 18:23
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's post.
Group: SQUART WESTDOWN
for answers7 August 2013 19:50
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's post.
Group: SQUART WESTDOWN
lets hope he is alive... \7 August 2013 19:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
:p
i guess they have to lissten and visualize from behind the scenes then
Will be there tomorrow
(bdw or ppl meet greenMan, he is in our project pictures )
i guess they have to lissten and visualize from behind the scenes then
Will be there tomorrow
(bdw or ppl meet greenMan, he is in our project pictures )
7 August 2013 19:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
in Youth training program right now
7 August 2013 18:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In UK, ...but will see where road takes from here,
still warming up my motor
still warming up my motor
7 August 2013 18:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.beckleyfoundation.org/about-us/
The Beckley Foundation
Beckley Park, Oxford, OX3 9SY, United Kingdom
http://www.maps.org/participate/
The Beckley Foundation
Beckley Park, Oxford, OX3 9SY, United Kingdom
http://www.maps.org/participate/
http://www.beckleyfoundation.org/about-us/
6 August 2013 14:43
Margus Meigo commented on Neşe Devenot's photo.
So So Lovely baby-mama :))
6 August 2013 14:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Erik Miidol voi Indrek Saviiril ehk ka miskit un ?
6 August 2013 14:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Teoreetiliselt peaks olema, kuid ehk ketta peal mis Maiken i kaes turvalisel hoiul,
(kuid sealt pole lihtne leida... kuid maile jouan siis kogu ajaloo laen vast ylesse nagunii. Majakesse murti sisse ja ei tea mis seal alles on... seega vast ainult yks koopia kogu mu ajaloodest alles un... pray pray pray : )
(kuid sealt pole lihtne leida... kuid maile jouan siis kogu ajaloo laen vast ylesse nagunii. Majakesse murti sisse ja ei tea mis seal alles on... seega vast ainult yks koopia kogu mu ajaloodest alles un... pray pray pray : )
6 August 2013 14:27
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's photo.
.:. My Favorite : ))
(The Casle Waffa Open Source Multifaith Room
Artist: Rosa
Book: From Original-spider)
(The Casle Waffa Open Source Multifaith Room
Artist: Rosa
Book: From Original-spider)
6 August 2013 14:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
IN chase we do not meet,
will be back 4-5 days
Truth & Hope
will be back 4-5 days
Truth & Hope
6 August 2013 14:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(we have weed & Kush lovers, gayish groups, women right, housing, foot ball.. many interest groups)
6 August 2013 14:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
or if anyone just wanna party with our youth, warmly cool youth .. not sure where we will be, but will be good contact exchange if anyone wanna join..then let them sms me the contact or something, we let know where we are :)
6 August 2013 14:14
Margus Meigo commented on Naughty Cheese's photo.
Break Out of the Box
from Adventure Church
https://vimeo.com/71691519
http://adventurechurch.tv/
" To ENGAGE a culture living outside of God’s plan, to create a relevant environment where they can EXPERIENCE God, to EQUIP them to live to their full potential in Christ, and to EMPOWER them to fulfill the purpose He has created them for."
Great stuff comes out from the hastag #breakoutofthebox :p
from Adventure Church
https://vimeo.com/71691519
http://adventurechurch.tv/
" To ENGAGE a culture living outside of God’s plan, to create a relevant environment where they can EXPERIENCE God, to EQUIP them to live to their full potential in Christ, and to EMPOWER them to fulfill the purpose He has created them for."
Great stuff comes out from the hastag #breakoutofthebox :p
https://vimeo.com/71691519
6 August 2013 13:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
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Thomas B. Roberts, Ph.D. niu.academia.edu/ThomasRobertsNorthern Illinois University, troberts@niu.edu
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/
6 August 2013 13:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Vol. 6, pages 621-632.
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Handbook of Religious Experience
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Where God and Science Meet: How Brain and EvolutionaryStudies Alter Our Understanding of Religion. Vol. 3. The Psychology of Religious Experience
. Praeger, Westport, CT./Greenwood, London.Richards, William A. 2005. Entheogens in the Study of Religious Experiences:Current Status.
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Psychoactive Sacramentals: Essays on Entheogens and Religion.
Council on Spiritual Practices, San Francisco. Republicationforthcoming in 2012 by Inner Traditions, Rochester, VT.Roberts, Thomas B. 2006. Chemical Input, Religious Output—Entheogens: APharmatheology Sampler. Chapter 10 in Patrick McNamara (editor).
Where God and Science Meet: How Brain and Evolutionary Studies Alter Our Understanding of Religion. Vol. 3. The Psychology of Religious Experience
. Praeger, Westport,CT./Greenwood, London.Shanon, Benny. 2008. Biblical Entheogens: A Speculative Hypothesis.
Time and Mind
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Psychopharmacology
,Vol. 25, No. 4, pages 439-452.Mithoefer, Michael. 2007. MDMA-assisted Psychotherapy for the Treatment of Post-traumatic Stress Disorder. In Michael Winkelman & Thomas B. Roberts (editors).
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Psychopharmacology
, (June 15) pages 1-17. The table containing thevolunteers’ comments is included in the article located at http://csp.org/psilocybin.Griffiths, Roland, William Richards, Una McCann & Robert Jesse. 2008.Mystical-type Experiences Occasioned by Psilocybin Mediate the Attribution of PersonalMeaning and Spiritual Significance 14 Months Later.
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Thomas B. Roberts, Ph.D. niu.academia.edu/ThomasRobertsNorthern Illinois
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Psychopharmacology
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Thomas B. Roberts, Ph.D. niu.academia.edu/ThomasRobertsNorthern Illinois
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6 August 2013 13:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Palliative Care and Death Anxiety Studies:Grob, Charles S., Alicia L. Danforth, Gurpreet S. Chopra, Marycie Hagerty,Charles R. McKay, Adam L. Halberstadt & George R. Greer. 2011. Pilot Study of Psilocybin Treatment for Anxiety in Patients with Advanced-Stage Cancer.
Archives of General Psychiatry
, Vol. 68, No. 1, pages 71-78.Grob, Charles. 2007. The Use of Psilocybin in Patients with Advanced Cancer and Existential Anxiety. Chapter 11 in Michael Winkelman & Thomas B. Roberts(editors).
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Vol. 1. Praeger, Westport, CT./Greenwood, London.Grof, Stanislav. 2006.
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, Vol. 9, No. 1, pages 1-10.Post Traumatic Stress Disorder StudiesMithoefer, Michael C., Mark Y. Wagner, Ann T. Mithoefer, Lisa Jerome & Rick Doblin. 2011. The Safety and Efficacy of {+/-}3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine-assisted Psychotherapy in Subjects with Chronic, Treatment-resistant PosttraumaticStress Disorder: The First Randomized Controlled Pilot Study
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Psychedelic Medicine: New Evidence for Hallucinogenic Substances asTreatments,
Vol. 1. Praeger, Westport, CT./Greenwood, London.Grof, Stanislav. 2006.
The Ultimate Journey: Consciousness and the Mystery of Death
. Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies. Santa Cruz, CA.Pahnke, Walter N. 1969. The Psychedelic Mystical Experience in the HumanEncounter with Death.
Harvard Theological Review
. Vol. 62, pages 1-32.Richards, William A. 1978.
Peak Experiences, Counseling, and the Human Encounter with Death: An Empirical Study of the Efficacy of DPT-assisted Counseling in Enhancing the Quality of Life of Persons with Terminal Cancer and Their Closest Family Members
. Catholic University of America, Washington, DC.Richards, William A., John C. Rhead, Francisco B. DiLeo, Richard Yensen &Albert A. Kurland. 1977. The Peak Experience Variable in DPT-Assisted Psychotherapywith Cancer Patients.
Journal of Psychedelic Drugs
, Vol. 9, No. 1, pages 1-10.Post Traumatic Stress Disorder StudiesMithoefer, Michael C., Mark Y. Wagner, Ann T. Mithoefer, Lisa Jerome & Rick Doblin. 2011. The Safety and Efficacy of {+/-}3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine-assisted Psychotherapy in Subjects with Chronic, Treatment-resistant PosttraumaticStress Disorder: The First Randomized Controlled Pilot Study
.
6 August 2013 13:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/horizon/psychetran.shtml.Mystical Experience Studies:Alcoholics Anonymous. 1984.
‘Pass It On’ The Story of Bill Wilson and How the A.A. Message Reached the World
. Alcoholics Anonymous World Services: New York. pages 368-377.Fadiman, James. 2011. Behavioral Changes after Psychedelic Therapy. AQuestionnaire Study of Psychedelic Experiences. Chapters 21 and 22 in
The Psychedelic Explorer’s Guide: Safe, Therapeutic, and Sacred Journeys
. Park Street Press, Rochester,VT.Forte, Robert. (editor). 1997.
Entheogens and the Future of Religion.
Council onSpiritual Practices, San Francisco.Griffiths, Roland. 2009. Psilocybin and the Experimental Mystical Experience.http://tedxmidatlantic.com/2009-video/#RolandGriffiths. (19-minute PowerPoint lectureto TEDxAtlantic, May 15, 2009.Grof, Stanislav.1985.
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Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion
.Vol. 14, pages 29-41.Hood, Ralph W., Jr., R. J. Morris & P. J. Watson. 1993. Further Factor Analysisof Hood’s Mysticism Scale.
Psychological Reports
. Vol. 73, No. 1, pages 1176-1178.Hood, Ralph W., Jr. 2006. The Common Core Thesis in the Study of Mysticism.Chapter 5 in Patrick McNamara (editor)
Where God and Science Meet, Vol. 3, The Psychology of Religious Experience
. Praeger, Westport, CT.Hruby, Paula Jo. 2001. Unitive Consciousness and Pahnke’s Good FridayExperiment. Chapter 6 in Thomas B. Roberts (editor)
Psychoactive Sacramentals: Essayson Entheogens and Religion
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Advances in Mind-Body Medicine
, Vol.15, No.2, pages 139-147.Roberts, Thomas B. 2012 forthcoming. The Experience that Alters All Others.Raising Values. Chapters 2 and 3 in
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. Inner Traditions, Rochester, VT.Van Dusen, Wilson.1961. LSD and the Enlightenment of Zen.
Psychologia
, Vol.4, pages 11-16.Winkelman, Michael, & Thomas B. Roberts (editors). Part I: Treating SubstanceAbuse. In Vol. 2 of
Psychedelic Medicine: New Evidence for Hallucinogenic Substancesas Treatments
. Praeger, Westport, CT./Greenwood, London. (Six chapters by John H.Halpern, Richard Yensen and Donna Dryer, Joseph D. Calabrese, Kenneth R. Alper andHoward S. Lotsof, Evgeny Krupitsky and Eli Kolp, and Jacques Mabit. The treatmentsinclude ayahuasca, peyote, LSD, ketamine, and ibogaine.)
Thomas B. Roberts, Ph.D. niu.academia.edu/ThomasRobertsNorthern Illinois University, troberts@niu.edu
4
‘Pass It On’ The Story of Bill Wilson and How the A.A. Message Reached the World
. Alcoholics Anonymous World Services: New York. pages 368-377.Fadiman, James. 2011. Behavioral Changes after Psychedelic Therapy. AQuestionnaire Study of Psychedelic Experiences. Chapters 21 and 22 in
The Psychedelic Explorer’s Guide: Safe, Therapeutic, and Sacred Journeys
. Park Street Press, Rochester,VT.Forte, Robert. (editor). 1997.
Entheogens and the Future of Religion.
Council onSpiritual Practices, San Francisco.Griffiths, Roland. 2009. Psilocybin and the Experimental Mystical Experience.http://tedxmidatlantic.com/2009-video/#RolandGriffiths. (19-minute PowerPoint lectureto TEDxAtlantic, May 15, 2009.Grof, Stanislav.1985.
Beyond the Brain: Birth, Death and Transcendence in Psychotherapy.
State University of New York Press, Albany, NY.Hood, Ralph W., Jr. 1975. The Construction and Preliminary Validation of aMeasure of Reported Religious Experience.
Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion
.Vol. 14, pages 29-41.Hood, Ralph W., Jr., R. J. Morris & P. J. Watson. 1993. Further Factor Analysisof Hood’s Mysticism Scale.
Psychological Reports
. Vol. 73, No. 1, pages 1176-1178.Hood, Ralph W., Jr. 2006. The Common Core Thesis in the Study of Mysticism.Chapter 5 in Patrick McNamara (editor)
Where God and Science Meet, Vol. 3, The Psychology of Religious Experience
. Praeger, Westport, CT.Hruby, Paula Jo. 2001. Unitive Consciousness and Pahnke’s Good FridayExperiment. Chapter 6 in Thomas B. Roberts (editor)
Psychoactive Sacramentals: Essayson Entheogens and Religion
. Council on Spiritual Practices, San FranciscoKleiman, Mark. 2011. Mysticism in the Lab. Retrieved June 17, 2001 fromhttp://www.samefacts.com/2011/06/drug-policy/mysticism-in-the-lab/Roberts, Thomas B. 1999. Do Psychedelic-induced Mystical Experiences Boostthe Immune System?
Advances in Mind-Body Medicine
, Vol.15, No.2, pages 139-147.Roberts, Thomas B. 2012 forthcoming. The Experience that Alters All Others.Raising Values. Chapters 2 and 3 in
The Fruitful Mind: Our Psychedelic Future of Enhanced Cognition, Revived Religion, De-fanged Death, and Invigorated Academia, Business, and Education
. Inner Traditions, Rochester, VT.Van Dusen, Wilson.1961. LSD and the Enlightenment of Zen.
Psychologia
, Vol.4, pages 11-16.Winkelman, Michael, & Thomas B. Roberts (editors). Part I: Treating SubstanceAbuse. In Vol. 2 of
Psychedelic Medicine: New Evidence for Hallucinogenic Substancesas Treatments
. Praeger, Westport, CT./Greenwood, London. (Six chapters by John H.Halpern, Richard Yensen and Donna Dryer, Joseph D. Calabrese, Kenneth R. Alper andHoward S. Lotsof, Evgeny Krupitsky and Eli Kolp, and Jacques Mabit. The treatmentsinclude ayahuasca, peyote, LSD, ketamine, and ibogaine.)
Thomas B. Roberts, Ph.D. niu.academia.edu/ThomasRobertsNorthern Illinois University, troberts@niu.edu
4
http://www.bbc.co.uk/horizon/psychetran.shtml.Mystical
6 August 2013 13:12
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Group: Be Creative
Seiklejate Vennaskond (Merilins and our org.. )
https://www.facebook.com/Seiklejad.Org
http://www.seiklejad.org/facebook.com
Seiklejate Vennaskond
3 August 2013 23:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Be Creative
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iZXTM9G0Zo
http://www.youtube.com/user/Letsdoitworldhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iZXTM9G0Zo
3 August 2013 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kui raamat me ees, on kõikvõimas aeg
iga aasta uus, lehekülg näib,
õpid ja näed, et midagi ei tea,
tulevik see, mõõtmatu näib.
Sa valikuid teed, või nendest loobudes
armastad ja pettud, võidad-kaotad tõe.
Kui tulevik meid, soosida võib,
kas keegi teab, kui küsin?
Mis meist saab, kuhu edasi?
Aeg on antud ja võetud me käest.
Millist teed käid, kuhu rada viib?
Aastal 2020 näed.
Et inimesed on head, et tuumapomm ei peaks,
lahendama kõik-sa loodad vaid.
Et keemiareostuses, ei kaoks kõik puhtad veed.
Alles jääda meist võiks kaunis planeet.
Ei usu, et me siis elaksime kuul,
pigem rong Shanghaisse meid tööle viib.
Kui lapselastega, sa mängid ükskord koos,
ja keegi küsib siis, kuidas vastad?
Mis meist saab, kuhu edasi?
Aeg on antud ja võetud me käest.
Millist teed käid, kuhu rada viib?
Aastal 2020 näed.
Me kõnnime koos nende tähtede all,
sama päike ja tuul, samad teed jalge all,
veidi vanemad, targemad, paremad, kuid iseendaks jääme.
Mis meist saab, kuhu edasi?
Aeg on antud ja võetud me käest.
Uued teed vaid, viivad edasi.
Aastal 2020 näed.
Me kõnnime koos nende tähtede all,
sama päike ja tuul, samad teed jalge all,
veidi vanemad, targemad, paremad, kuid iseendaks jääme.
Mis meist saab, kuhu edasi?
Aeg on antud ja võetud me käest.
Uued teed vaid, viivad edasi.
Aastal 2020 näed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkBYuAFO4Eo
Like book on front of us, is almighty time
every year new, page appears
Learning and see that nothing you know
The future seems unfathomable
By making choices, or giving these up
You loving or feel disappointed, winning and loosing truth
If the future can favor us
Would someone know, if I asked?
What will happen to us, where forward?
Time has given and taken from our hands
Which road you walk; where does your path lead?
You will see 2020
That people are good, that nuclear bomb should not
solve everything -- you're just counting on it
That chemical pollution, would not erase all clean waters
That after us here clean planet might stay
Doubting, that then we would live in moon
rather train will be taking us to work in Shanghai
If, at some point, you play together with grandchildren
And someone asks then, how would you answer?
What will happen to us, where are we going from here?
Time has given and taken from our hands
What road you walk; where does path lead?
On year 2020 you*l see
We walk together under those stars
The same sun and wind, the same footpaths below
A little older, wiser, better, but we remain ourselves
What will happen to us, where are we going?
Time has given and taken from our hands
You go whichever way; where does the path lead?
You're looking into the year 2020
We walk together under those stars
The same sun and wind, same roads under our foot
A little older, wiser, better, but we remain ourselves
What will happen to us, where are we going?
Time has given and taken from our hands
Only new roads, will take you forward
You will see on year 2020
true true...
what else is promised to be ready on 2020 my darlings ?
iga aasta uus, lehekülg näib,
õpid ja näed, et midagi ei tea,
tulevik see, mõõtmatu näib.
Sa valikuid teed, või nendest loobudes
armastad ja pettud, võidad-kaotad tõe.
Kui tulevik meid, soosida võib,
kas keegi teab, kui küsin?
Mis meist saab, kuhu edasi?
Aeg on antud ja võetud me käest.
Millist teed käid, kuhu rada viib?
Aastal 2020 näed.
Et inimesed on head, et tuumapomm ei peaks,
lahendama kõik-sa loodad vaid.
Et keemiareostuses, ei kaoks kõik puhtad veed.
Alles jääda meist võiks kaunis planeet.
Ei usu, et me siis elaksime kuul,
pigem rong Shanghaisse meid tööle viib.
Kui lapselastega, sa mängid ükskord koos,
ja keegi küsib siis, kuidas vastad?
Mis meist saab, kuhu edasi?
Aeg on antud ja võetud me käest.
Millist teed käid, kuhu rada viib?
Aastal 2020 näed.
Me kõnnime koos nende tähtede all,
sama päike ja tuul, samad teed jalge all,
veidi vanemad, targemad, paremad, kuid iseendaks jääme.
Mis meist saab, kuhu edasi?
Aeg on antud ja võetud me käest.
Uued teed vaid, viivad edasi.
Aastal 2020 näed.
Me kõnnime koos nende tähtede all,
sama päike ja tuul, samad teed jalge all,
veidi vanemad, targemad, paremad, kuid iseendaks jääme.
Mis meist saab, kuhu edasi?
Aeg on antud ja võetud me käest.
Uued teed vaid, viivad edasi.
Aastal 2020 näed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkBYuAFO4Eo
Like book on front of us, is almighty time
every year new, page appears
Learning and see that nothing you know
The future seems unfathomable
By making choices, or giving these up
You loving or feel disappointed, winning and loosing truth
If the future can favor us
Would someone know, if I asked?
What will happen to us, where forward?
Time has given and taken from our hands
Which road you walk; where does your path lead?
You will see 2020
That people are good, that nuclear bomb should not
solve everything -- you're just counting on it
That chemical pollution, would not erase all clean waters
That after us here clean planet might stay
Doubting, that then we would live in moon
rather train will be taking us to work in Shanghai
If, at some point, you play together with grandchildren
And someone asks then, how would you answer?
What will happen to us, where are we going from here?
Time has given and taken from our hands
What road you walk; where does path lead?
On year 2020 you*l see
We walk together under those stars
The same sun and wind, the same footpaths below
A little older, wiser, better, but we remain ourselves
What will happen to us, where are we going?
Time has given and taken from our hands
You go whichever way; where does the path lead?
You're looking into the year 2020
We walk together under those stars
The same sun and wind, same roads under our foot
A little older, wiser, better, but we remain ourselves
What will happen to us, where are we going?
Time has given and taken from our hands
Only new roads, will take you forward
You will see on year 2020
true true...
what else is promised to be ready on 2020 my darlings ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkBYuAFO4Eo
26 July 2013 08:48
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's post.
If people get so paranoid and worried about taking look at their own tools they was giving us for studying us, to help us...
then how paranoid they get to know that perhaps there is even NO private thoughts, at all, or plans.. or ..
so but this does not change to much, as after long time ago EU and other nations make open legislation that ALL electronically data must be recorded for all people, all the time...
after that people still go along with game and making big eyes about these so called spy projects..
internet is for doing good, and if you do good - your kept open and going by the system,
or should, at least..
then how paranoid they get to know that perhaps there is even NO private thoughts, at all, or plans.. or ..
so but this does not change to much, as after long time ago EU and other nations make open legislation that ALL electronically data must be recorded for all people, all the time...
after that people still go along with game and making big eyes about these so called spy projects..
internet is for doing good, and if you do good - your kept open and going by the system,
or should, at least..
26 July 2013 07:47
Margus Meigo commented on Becky Dee's link.
First at all Army is the one thanks to who we have guardian.co.uk :D
26 July 2013 07:43
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's link.
lol.
if people would have something they would want to really tell about, i would listen and if they would have bigger aim, i would listen even more, and longer... but no one bothers even to listen from what perspective i am hearing others... so what is the use then for me to listen, may of us even have not bothered to think why we are here in first place
its like .. for SURE, if anyone have better plan to do it All, would join in... but to hear this one that has plans be on few, that just work... if one takes only FEW days time to listen.. but no, that would be to much.. better to go in circles and around.. and with little belief that I Do Not Argue or Disagree, with others free Will
this is only point i am talking first at all, to get more free will, back to human species, this is only reason i am living for..
even thought... more epic then that is this what makes it possible to even start to properly think in this direction, and this is Other side of Us
a women
its so simple
but do not ask, why am not doing it then.. as
if people would have something they would want to really tell about, i would listen and if they would have bigger aim, i would listen even more, and longer... but no one bothers even to listen from what perspective i am hearing others... so what is the use then for me to listen, may of us even have not bothered to think why we are here in first place
its like .. for SURE, if anyone have better plan to do it All, would join in... but to hear this one that has plans be on few, that just work... if one takes only FEW days time to listen.. but no, that would be to much.. better to go in circles and around.. and with little belief that I Do Not Argue or Disagree, with others free Will
this is only point i am talking first at all, to get more free will, back to human species, this is only reason i am living for..
even thought... more epic then that is this what makes it possible to even start to properly think in this direction, and this is Other side of Us
a women
its so simple
but do not ask, why am not doing it then.. as
26 July 2013 07:38
Margus Meigo commented on ISee Kush's photo.
would like to smell Her as well
26 July 2013 07:21
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's photo.
where is Himmler ?
26 July 2013 05:25
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's photo.
lol, thought for a second this dudes was for real
26 July 2013 05:25
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's photo.
Hugging police, so sweet : )
he is holding like hes own sun, aww
he is holding like hes own sun, aww
24 July 2013 21:28
Margus Meigo commented on The Obama White House's photo.
like a boss (outfit and )
24 July 2013 16:56
Margus Meigo commented on The Obama White House's photo.
rather take flower in hand and run with that
24 July 2013 16:55
Margus Meigo commented on The Obama White House's photo.
The guy next to girl is most right one :p
24 July 2013 16:54
Margus Meigo commented on The Obama White House's photo.
ahahh siis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1bn7cIsJCQ do not forget the pepsi :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1bn7cIsJCQ do not forget the pepsi :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1bn7cIsJCQ
24 July 2013 16:51
Margus Meigo commented on TROLLindia's photo.
Specially like the Navy-Blue one
24 July 2013 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on The Obama White House's photo.
pretty stereotypical picture,
but there is a nice sofa.. how come no one is chilling in there as real people do
but there is a nice sofa.. how come no one is chilling in there as real people do
24 July 2013 16:38
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
& siis votke aega teineteise poste lugeda ka j
ja siis votke aega omavahel noist asjadest raakida,
ja siis ... proovige mitte igavasse rutiini tagasi minna
ja meeles pidada, mida me siin planeedil teeme, miks siin ohku tarbime
ja siis votke aega omavahel noist asjadest raakida,
ja siis ... proovige mitte igavasse rutiini tagasi minna
ja meeles pidada, mida me siin planeedil teeme, miks siin ohku tarbime
24 July 2013 16:29
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
( internet, nagu naiteks http://www.halexandria.org/dward185.htm voi http://www.cracked.com/humor-sex.html voi neti.ee voi kui sexu asemel shopping meeldib siis http://www.cracked.com/article_18410_the-12-most-insane-things-you-can-buy-internet.html )
@ Kätlin Kadastik - jaga naiteid ka, mis huvitav su jaoks,
internet suur ja lai, jagage naiteid mida huvitav viimase tunni jooksul olite voimeline leidma : )
@ Kätlin Kadastik - jaga naiteid ka, mis huvitav su jaoks,
internet suur ja lai, jagage naiteid mida huvitav viimase tunni jooksul olite voimeline leidma : )
http://www.halexandria.org/dward185.htm
24 July 2013 16:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
:D:D24 July 2013 16:01
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's post.
this means, Being Alive !
(:
(:
24 July 2013 16:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
How to translate "Üks tüse jurris välka mees" ?
23 July 2013 18:52
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's post.
Right on farmer boy, get this country vibes going, show the star bucks generation how life is lived and party's made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2JakICaLqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2JakICaLqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2JakICaLqw
23 July 2013 16:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Artiom Chotkevic E-Mail: artiom.chotkevic@naughtycheese.org
(nothing to do with porn website Naughty Puppy.org :p)
Phone: +44(0)7936277136
Costs:
70% of travel costs according to presented original boarding passes, train/bus tickets, invoices and others will be reimbursed via bank transfer after the project;
100% of accommodation, meal and program costs are covered by the hosting organization.
There is a participation fee of 10-25 EUR per person (well, that's only about one normal mean cost in UK, so.. see You Soon!!)
This Training Course is
for 30 participants
from Cyprus, Estonia, Germany, Iceland, Italy, Lithuania, Malta, United Kingdom
(nothing to do with porn website Naughty Puppy.org :p)
Phone: +44(0)7936277136
Costs:
70% of travel costs according to presented original boarding passes, train/bus tickets, invoices and others will be reimbursed via bank transfer after the project;
100% of accommodation, meal and program costs are covered by the hosting organization.
There is a participation fee of 10-25 EUR per person (well, that's only about one normal mean cost in UK, so.. see You Soon!!)
This Training Course is
for 30 participants
from Cyprus, Estonia, Germany, Iceland, Italy, Lithuania, Malta, United Kingdom
23 July 2013 05:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
:)23 July 2013 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
whats good/new in streets?
22 July 2013 21:26
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
still in london
22 July 2013 21:25
Margus Meigo commented on Maryam Vela's post.
in good mind set right now :)
22 July 2013 21:25
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Musi on veel magusam.. :)
22 July 2013 06:37
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's link.
Most strange thing is that all this feminist and revolution stuff but i can not find this girls names who did big things in mother Russia and elsewhere with their breasts - one particular one had pretty good wiki page even few years ago, now its unlinked from main article it seams...
they had some strong messages and not so pro communism at all, some of them... the ones i can not find (well, at least im assuming so)
here is some mentioned
http://www.marxists.org/archive/kollonta/1927/fighters.htm
they had some strong messages and not so pro communism at all, some of them... the ones i can not find (well, at least im assuming so)
here is some mentioned
http://www.marxists.org/archive/kollonta/1927/fighters.htm
http://www.marxists.org/archive/kollonta/1927/fighters.htm
22 July 2013 06:12
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's link.
favorite long and good reading is from there:
(send me priv message about all this as well, thank you )
http://www.icl-fi.org/english/esp/59/emancipation.html
" The Marxist view of the family as the main source of the oppression of women dates from The German Ideology, where Marx and Engels first formulated the concept that the family was not an immutable, timeless institution, but a social relation subject to historical change. In the classic Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State (1884), Engels (working with the material available at the time) traced the origin of the institution of the family and the state to the division of society into classes. With the rise of a social surplus beyond basic subsistence, a leisured, ruling class could develop based on a private appropriation of that surplus, thus moving human society away from the primitive egalitarianism of the Stone Age. The centrality of the family flowed from its role in the inheritance of property, which required women’s sexual monogamy and social subordination. Engels termed this “the world historical defeat of the female sex.
"In Russia, the feminist movement was part of a broader bourgeois-democratic current that opposed tsarism and wanted to modernize Russia as an industrial capitalist society."
"However, by 1914 women made up one-third of Russia’s small but powerful industrial labor force. The Bolshevik program addressed their felt needs through such demands as equal pay for equal work, paid maternity leave and childcare facilities at factories, the lack of which had a severe impact on infant mortality. As many as two-thirds of the babies of women factory workers died in their first year."
"Soviet legislation at that time gave to women in Russia a level of equality and freedom that has yet to be attained by the most economically advanced “democratic” capitalist countries today. But there was a problem, succinctly addressed by A. T. Stelmakhovich, chairman of the Moscow provincial courts: “The liberation of women...without an economic base guaranteeing every worker full material independence, is a myth” (quoted in Goldman, Women, the State and Revolution).
Just over a month after the revolution, two decrees established civil marriage and allowed for divorce at the request of either partner, accomplishing far more than the pre-revolutionary Ministry of Justice, progressive journalists, feminists and the Duma had ever even attempted. Divorces soared in the following period"
"The Bolsheviks also abolished all laws against homosexual acts and other consensual sexual activity. The Bolshevik position was explained in a pamphlet by Grigorii Batkis, director of the Moscow Institute of Social Hygiene, The Sexual Revolution in Russia (1923):
“Soviet legislation bases itself on the following principle:
“It declares the absolute non-interference of the state and society into sexual matters, so long as nobody is injured, and no one’s interests are encroached upon.”
" The Bolsheviks anticipated the ability to “eliminate the need for certain registrations, for example, marriage registration, for the family will soon be replaced by a more reasonable, more rational differentiation based on SEPERATE individuals..”
(send me priv message about all this as well, thank you )
http://www.icl-fi.org/english/esp/59/emancipation.html
" The Marxist view of the family as the main source of the oppression of women dates from The German Ideology, where Marx and Engels first formulated the concept that the family was not an immutable, timeless institution, but a social relation subject to historical change. In the classic Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State (1884), Engels (working with the material available at the time) traced the origin of the institution of the family and the state to the division of society into classes. With the rise of a social surplus beyond basic subsistence, a leisured, ruling class could develop based on a private appropriation of that surplus, thus moving human society away from the primitive egalitarianism of the Stone Age. The centrality of the family flowed from its role in the inheritance of property, which required women’s sexual monogamy and social subordination. Engels termed this “the world historical defeat of the female sex.
"In Russia, the feminist movement was part of a broader bourgeois-democratic current that opposed tsarism and wanted to modernize Russia as an industrial capitalist society."
"However, by 1914 women made up one-third of Russia’s small but powerful industrial labor force. The Bolshevik program addressed their felt needs through such demands as equal pay for equal work, paid maternity leave and childcare facilities at factories, the lack of which had a severe impact on infant mortality. As many as two-thirds of the babies of women factory workers died in their first year."
"Soviet legislation at that time gave to women in Russia a level of equality and freedom that has yet to be attained by the most economically advanced “democratic” capitalist countries today. But there was a problem, succinctly addressed by A. T. Stelmakhovich, chairman of the Moscow provincial courts: “The liberation of women...without an economic base guaranteeing every worker full material independence, is a myth” (quoted in Goldman, Women, the State and Revolution).
Just over a month after the revolution, two decrees established civil marriage and allowed for divorce at the request of either partner, accomplishing far more than the pre-revolutionary Ministry of Justice, progressive journalists, feminists and the Duma had ever even attempted. Divorces soared in the following period"
"The Bolsheviks also abolished all laws against homosexual acts and other consensual sexual activity. The Bolshevik position was explained in a pamphlet by Grigorii Batkis, director of the Moscow Institute of Social Hygiene, The Sexual Revolution in Russia (1923):
“Soviet legislation bases itself on the following principle:
“It declares the absolute non-interference of the state and society into sexual matters, so long as nobody is injured, and no one’s interests are encroached upon.”
" The Bolsheviks anticipated the ability to “eliminate the need for certain registrations, for example, marriage registration, for the family will soon be replaced by a more reasonable, more rational differentiation based on SEPERATE individuals..”
http://www.icl-fi.org/english/esp/59/emancipation.html
22 July 2013 06:08
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's link.
How did we end up from nice breasts to call for cops & cunts and topics about assholes fucking
whats wrong peeps, stay calm ,this is not only nude tits girl out there, there is more.
FEMEn make headlines everywhere... whats up with that, why we just can calmly walk around naked withe out politics..
http://eastbook.eu/en/2013/03/material-en/news-en/between-borsch-barbie-breasts-and-broom-brandishers/
http://www.thenation.com/article/175056/femens-topless-jihad#
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/03/the-woman-behind-femens-topless-protest-movement/273970/
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/patrick-reevell/femen-topless-paris-protest_b_3262960.html
http://henrymakow.com/why_we_celebrate_communist_fes.html
" Women's Day is designed to make women feel oppressed. For example, a page of gender facts tells them that "women do 2/3 of the world's work but get only 10% of the world's income." Thus, western women, the most favored generation in history, get a chip on their shoulder vicariously.
Women are brainwashed to think their interests are separate from their own fathers, husbands, brothers and sons. "
http://www.savethemales.ca/001904.html
" first we need to remember that for a woman, love is an instinctive act of self-sacrifice.
She gives herself to her husband and children and is fulfilled by seeing them thrive and receiving their love, respect and gratitude.
Feminism has trained women to reject this model as "an old fashioned, oppressive stereotype" even though it reflects their natural instincts
A woman makes this supreme sacrifice to only one man who will cherish her and provide for his family. Men instinctively want to fulfill this responsibility. This is the essence of the heterosexual contract (i.e. marriage): female power in exchange for male power expressed as love. Sex is the symbol of this exclusive bond. Marriage and family may not be for everyone but it is the natural path for most.
People do not realize that feminism is mass indoctrination because they cannot identify the perpetrator, the means or the motive. "
whats wrong peeps, stay calm ,this is not only nude tits girl out there, there is more.
FEMEn make headlines everywhere... whats up with that, why we just can calmly walk around naked withe out politics..
http://eastbook.eu/en/2013/03/material-en/news-en/between-borsch-barbie-breasts-and-broom-brandishers/
http://www.thenation.com/article/175056/femens-topless-jihad#
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/03/the-woman-behind-femens-topless-protest-movement/273970/
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/patrick-reevell/femen-topless-paris-protest_b_3262960.html
http://henrymakow.com/why_we_celebrate_communist_fes.html
" Women's Day is designed to make women feel oppressed. For example, a page of gender facts tells them that "women do 2/3 of the world's work but get only 10% of the world's income." Thus, western women, the most favored generation in history, get a chip on their shoulder vicariously.
Women are brainwashed to think their interests are separate from their own fathers, husbands, brothers and sons. "
http://www.savethemales.ca/001904.html
" first we need to remember that for a woman, love is an instinctive act of self-sacrifice.
She gives herself to her husband and children and is fulfilled by seeing them thrive and receiving their love, respect and gratitude.
Feminism has trained women to reject this model as "an old fashioned, oppressive stereotype" even though it reflects their natural instincts
A woman makes this supreme sacrifice to only one man who will cherish her and provide for his family. Men instinctively want to fulfill this responsibility. This is the essence of the heterosexual contract (i.e. marriage): female power in exchange for male power expressed as love. Sex is the symbol of this exclusive bond. Marriage and family may not be for everyone but it is the natural path for most.
People do not realize that feminism is mass indoctrination because they cannot identify the perpetrator, the means or the motive. "
http://eastbook.eu/en/2013/03/material-en/news-en/between-borsch-barbie-breasts-and-broom-brandishers/
22 July 2013 06:07
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's photo.
sa endiselt alco peal v :p
22 July 2013 05:55
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's link.
unless ur near to road, for traffic safety
22 July 2013 04:47
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
squart sounded for me to as wet fart or something about square root.. but actually.. Squat Art.. pretty good in the end . )
But yea, its only natural that something like that comes to mind
http://phunnyneon.tumblr.com/post/48741652051/kiradood5-alo81-im-going-to-make-you-squart
https://socialcam.com/v/LNcUTSmO
(lamemale humor, not for you)
for the artist thought..
http://squart.deviantart.com/ Jennifer22 July 2013 04:31
Margus Meigo commented on Claudio Fonnesu's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
i still have our 14 july revolution manifesto beginning :))22 July 2013 04:30
Margus Meigo commented on Nana Kojo's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
(..just mumbling.. )
Fasci "groups of men organized for political purposes"
politics "science of government"
gov: late 14c., "act of governing or ruling;"
so anytime when we make a group to plan or decide some rules or methods how should be, what should do or where to direct...its kind of politics, right?
well, unless there is governess in position of deciding
--
gover: late 13c., from Old French governer (11c., Modern French gouverner) "govern," from Latin gubernare "to direct, rule, guide, govern" (cf. Spanish gobernar, Italian governare), originally "to steer," a nautical borrowing from Greek kybernan "to steer or pilot a ship, direct" (the root of cybernetics). The -k- to -g- sound shift is perhaps via the medium of Etruscan. Related: Governed; governing.
gov: 1792, from French commune "small territorial divisions set up after the Revolution," from Middle French commune "free city, group of citizens" (actually does not sound positive at all to me...)
Good websites to google our everyday words and roots
http://www.etymonline.com
http://thesaurus.com/http://www.etymonline.com/
22 July 2013 04:18
Margus Meigo commented on Nana Kojo's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
the squatting people that im meet in past do have actually so many faults besides many of us being pretty "fascist" (one of the main one is to NOT pointing out each other faults, in helping, evolving purposes.. quietly accepting or helping or ignoring or being blind about our faults.. )
perhaps this word is not the best one as it has been developed in last 100 years, but people like that was long before that, how was they called in 200 years ago, 500, 1000, 2000 ?
I mean people who force their rules, ideas (rights) or power to others with force or threats, people who stop on or do not care about other people borders, beliefs, rules and steps over them with intentional power game to dominate or to hurt, disrupt other political or spiritual systems.
fight for their own political agenda (even if its partisan) against someone, by not considering hurts or damages and humans that are rightfully or by trickery (closed in), to "other side"
the word.. himself, Fasci "groups of men organized for political purposes"
control, cruelty, oppression, suffering, brutality, abuse, hardness, harshness, tyranny.. (opposed to cheer, delight, happiness, joy) ... so anyone possessing these traits against other humans (being tyranny for a wife applies as well) is a RED alert abut actual people mental health and how one would behave under unlimited power or in secret.
But top of that we have some other people who in some sense are even more trouble some time by time, "snakes" (the ones who say true or false stuff about others between people with no good intent ) or these snakes who do not say stuff in your face but will jump on you on unexpected times, places, or special clever ones through others, sometimes anonymously ...
there is perhaps exception for gossip people who just not to smart to see what they do or think about what it does help.
Snakes can attack their own friends. And sometimes are SO far of dark (even if told with smile or passion serious worry in voice) that no one would know to consider this to be planned..
have seen any of these traits in any people? Usually .. these kind themselves look or stay relatively good or better then others, ...unless you look deeper, then some might be bitter (what is good, as if done as work, as pleasure... by not mentioning anything spiritual how to label those?)
And then there is people who always happen to end up bringing something not positive around, (not to confuse with angry or bitter or depressed or paranoid people.. these who i mean usually also seem to be to others as happy or funny, or on the Go.. but in the end other people around collapse and not so much them selves in ways that they get better, lots)
so who are they and why are they doing it, ... or is it all in our mind, part of us, all of them us ?
... ignoring all of it, ... not convinced that it makes our and people around us safer and more alert
one other thing, only talk about people this what you are willing to talk about, with same words, front of them
and with ultimately good intentions, why else would you talk about others anyway.. to get them or yourself better, right? (well.. )22 July 2013 03:59
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
ma algul motlesin, et sa neti komme motlesidf >F
22 July 2013 03:14
Margus Meigo commented on Exposing The Truth's post.
sorry for pissing off some of you but do believe we should help governments, corporations, and most of all churches
can explain how and why if anyone has interest : )
can explain how and why if anyone has interest : )
22 July 2013 03:03
Margus Meigo commented on Exposing The Truth's post.
World hunger (top of 1b starving people one told estimate that 100 000 not 25 thousand dyes per day by now, 25k was 10year old figure according to someone..) .. umm...
Mill expenditure... 1988 as much as 2007..
now... 8 Billion per DAY..
First 5 countries per year: 1.271 TRILLION
6 to 17: 360 BILLION
Rest 138 countries: 224 BILLION
hmm.. money system.. whats up with the bitcoin thingy if it rises mathematically as predicted?
hmm... Food Deception (hotels, supermarkets, are forced to destroy mega hundreds of tons of food, ...not allowed to give poor (30% of star food per day one guy told me i think) ..have been skipping in UK, ..loads of food on streets..while even here 600 thousand students apparently are hungry )
then fast food and meant deceptions and ..well, Fast Food Nation books has some interesting historical facts ...
smoking, drinking deceptions... how is possible, specially about smoking - that drug that does not produce real effects (unlike alcohol) that are supreme to sober person, has easy to spot crappy side effects like smell, taste, waste of time, ..besides health for many.. or mind locking.. that people are addicted to this ? WHY, HOW ??
Know any other drug that comes anywhere near to compare? NO, all other drugs have REAL effects. smoking in other hand actually pretty illusion.. breathing, eating, realizing some wisdom all makes smoking absolute,
what else... unn.. aa Anti drug propaganda, how come drugs that make people smarter, healthier ... has little if any real addictive properties that we would not like (its good to remember to do things we like, that we get help out from..)
same is with some health foods, that we choose chemical alternatives that are directly harmful compared with some plants growing in Africa. .. to many examples here as well..
Digital addictions.. umm, from TV to Internets...
marketers deeps psychological tricks...
news deceptions showing for some strange reason strange picked version of picture that gov knows does not help their country people minds in long run AT ALL.. if we keep up
school education and mind programming with one world view that is WAY WAY limited to that what is or can be around us..
illusions about internet security... and about leaks...
There is directives LONG time ago in place, what we must do with ALL digital personal data..
illusion that gov is lacking intelligence or that we should be against it necessarily..to be good human (if we jump really in there then we can actually help to evolve something that is OURS anyways..)
...alternate life forms.... oh.. and .. most of all (list gos on but will try to rap up), most of all, about devaluing actual religion good reasons and relationships
most important, .. .. or is plan bigger to get as all together?
-m-
Mill expenditure... 1988 as much as 2007..
now... 8 Billion per DAY..
First 5 countries per year: 1.271 TRILLION
6 to 17: 360 BILLION
Rest 138 countries: 224 BILLION
hmm.. money system.. whats up with the bitcoin thingy if it rises mathematically as predicted?
hmm... Food Deception (hotels, supermarkets, are forced to destroy mega hundreds of tons of food, ...not allowed to give poor (30% of star food per day one guy told me i think) ..have been skipping in UK, ..loads of food on streets..while even here 600 thousand students apparently are hungry )
then fast food and meant deceptions and ..well, Fast Food Nation books has some interesting historical facts ...
smoking, drinking deceptions... how is possible, specially about smoking - that drug that does not produce real effects (unlike alcohol) that are supreme to sober person, has easy to spot crappy side effects like smell, taste, waste of time, ..besides health for many.. or mind locking.. that people are addicted to this ? WHY, HOW ??
Know any other drug that comes anywhere near to compare? NO, all other drugs have REAL effects. smoking in other hand actually pretty illusion.. breathing, eating, realizing some wisdom all makes smoking absolute,
what else... unn.. aa Anti drug propaganda, how come drugs that make people smarter, healthier ... has little if any real addictive properties that we would not like (its good to remember to do things we like, that we get help out from..)
same is with some health foods, that we choose chemical alternatives that are directly harmful compared with some plants growing in Africa. .. to many examples here as well..
Digital addictions.. umm, from TV to Internets...
marketers deeps psychological tricks...
news deceptions showing for some strange reason strange picked version of picture that gov knows does not help their country people minds in long run AT ALL.. if we keep up
school education and mind programming with one world view that is WAY WAY limited to that what is or can be around us..
illusions about internet security... and about leaks...
There is directives LONG time ago in place, what we must do with ALL digital personal data..
illusion that gov is lacking intelligence or that we should be against it necessarily..to be good human (if we jump really in there then we can actually help to evolve something that is OURS anyways..)
...alternate life forms.... oh.. and .. most of all (list gos on but will try to rap up), most of all, about devaluing actual religion good reasons and relationships
most important, .. .. or is plan bigger to get as all together?
-m-
22 July 2013 03:01
Margus Meigo commented on Marite Nilov's photo.
Barby :p
22 July 2013 02:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
for real
20 July 2013 22:00
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Nilson's post.
NU tal oma pilt nii palju meeldis, et soovis seda omale postkasti ka saata, ehk tal nou vaja kuidas attacementi / manust kirja kylge kleepida vms
20 July 2013 21:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1852748475191&set=a.1852726994654.2104645.1135161043&type=3&theater
20 July 2013 15:38
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's photo.
timmtimmtimm, elus! :) sewe nii ilus, et kuulsin vist just linnu laulu neid lehti vaadates
ja valgus ka veel
wouuu...!
ja valgus ka veel
wouuu...!
20 July 2013 07:31
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
(:
20 July 2013 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
Do
20 July 2013 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
*about
19 July 2013 21:08
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
what are you drawing on
19 July 2013 21:08
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
ikka trennid veel? :p
19 July 2013 19:07
Margus Meigo commented on Teresa Lebamoff Alt's photo.
good one :D
4 July 2013 16:06
Margus Meigo commented on Piret FireFairy Meinberg's post.
TO much search for self-fun and to little serios looks for beautys makes the world fade away as well..
4 July 2013 16:05
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
(ma sain ainult kyynla polema jaanipaevaks yhe maja kautsel siin linnas)
27 June 2013 21:01
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
Naish Naish!
27 June 2013 21:01
Margus Meigo commented on Hannah Aiyana's photo.
Nurish this flower Luke Gray
1 June 2013 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
Yeee, tervisi! Ralli Mees!
1 June 2013 18:11
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Peatee!"
1 June 2013 18:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
5.5012 May 2013 16:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(Needed one more member from England 16 to 19 y of age :)
Seiklejate Vennaskond
Seiklejate Vennaskond
9 May 2013 19:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
staying in London perhaps more week or so
See ya!
See ya!
30 April 2013 21:31
Margus Meigo commented on Kristina Viin's post.
Tubli too, (Sul : )
2 April 2013 20:06
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's post.
Mis browserit kasutad muidu, safari?
Teiste browseritega sama .. java.com update - kas seda su vaike elektrooniline sober teeb automaatselt?
/lippan nyyd, tsauks/
Teiste browseritega sama .. java.com update - kas seda su vaike elektrooniline sober teeb automaatselt?
/lippan nyyd, tsauks/
2 April 2013 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's post.
andesta neile :)
2 April 2013 20:02
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Tibud te olete tublid :))
2 April 2013 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
We found it
2 April 2013 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Did u get ur notbook, redone?
2 April 2013 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's post.
..mmm... mis juhtus Kullake?
2 April 2013 19:59
Margus Meigo commented on Jewlion Lopez's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
And what doors u open in this world will be open in your next world some wise man write once,,,24 March 2013 07:47
Margus Meigo commented on Jewlion Lopez's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
so is that like a true story?
How is current situation evolution?
Can send it to my mail margus.meigo@eesti.ee as well ? :)24 March 2013 07:46
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Seidel's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
whatabout Worlds?24 March 2013 07:42
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Seidel's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
or just help along someone who does ?24 March 2013 07:41
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Seidel's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
not want to24 March 2013 07:41
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Seidel's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
should we?24 March 2013 07:40
Margus Meigo commented on Joanna Nazario Grzechowiak's post.
... oeh
24 March 2013 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on Ugri Kadi's link.
Loodan, et mul enda kohus targalt areneb kui aeg seal maal on
22 March 2013 21:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgqqUlY79WM&list=RD02u6VPSeC0las
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgqqUlY79WM
22 March 2013 17:47
Margus Meigo commented on Gert Klaaser's post.
( kusjuures, see palksein Kalamajast )
Loodan, et Kadaka Tee sipelgad said kenasti hakkama ilma soojenduseta
Loodan, et Kadaka Tee sipelgad said kenasti hakkama ilma soojenduseta
22 March 2013 17:29
Margus Meigo commented on Gert Klaaser's post.
:D
True true
True true
22 March 2013 17:28
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
oweosly16 March 2013 00:21
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
but yea, as i sayd to few cos16 March 2013 00:21
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
true, true16 March 2013 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
(Y)
nood isegi hasishi oliga saadaval siin ja seal varsti, proovisime siin ka, ypris ok :)
Kuid need paris popiks lahevad.. seega voib ka oma poe avada, http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/e-cigarette.html - seal paris hea valik
nood isegi hasishi oliga saadaval siin ja seal varsti, proovisime siin ka, ypris ok :)
Kuid need paris popiks lahevad.. seega voib ka oma poe avada, http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/e-cigarette.html - seal paris hea valik
http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/e-cigarette.html
12 March 2013 20:38
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
to bed fare... they to try to cut down the illegal.. music
even in iPods
even in iPods
6 March 2013 23:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://soundcloud.com/robyn/fembot
https://soundcloud.com/robyn/fembot
21 February 2013 10:50
Margus Meigo commented on Joyce Rheal's post.
(last turtle: "Hey, what is taking so long..")
21 February 2013 10:48
Margus Meigo commented on Henry Westons's photo.
hmm.. whats that?
19 February 2013 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
BursArt Training and Youth Association has been working as an Eurodesk Turkey Local Relay since April, 2011. As an Eurodesk Turkey Local Relay and an association that carry out the activities related to youth information, our responsibilities will continue with the help of our EVS volunteer who will join our team. We plan our project for a year and there will be 3 EVS volunteers for 12 months each. The volunteers’ will carry out the activities below:
- Building partnerships with EU countries with the help of Eurodesk.
- Helping the process of writing and implementing of YIA projects.
- Presentations in high schools and universities
- Turkish classes
- Organizing activties within our association and implementing campaingns
- Meetings to find financial sources for our association
- Youth information on European opportunities by Eurodesk and EVS
- Art workshops
- Documentation
- Preparing magazine
- Preparing bulletin
- Assisting or implementing the club activities within our association
Our main objective is proving the reality and relaibility of EU opportunities through our EVS volunteers while we are working on the area of youth information. Volunteers who will participate in the project have not been decided yet, they will be chosen among the applications as soon as we get the acceptence.
If you are interested in our Project please send Cv and Motivation letter to me.
I am waiting good news from you.
----
Hatice Yılmaz
AGH Koordinatörü / Coordinator of EVS
Eurodesk İrtibat Kişisi/ Eurodesk Contact Person
A : Dumlupınar Mah. Gelibolu Cad. Beykara Kent Sitesi A Blok No:2/2 16285 Görükle, Bursa/Türkiye
T | F : (90-224) 225 12 27
M : (90-538) 932 62 71
www.bursanat.org
- Building partnerships with EU countries with the help of Eurodesk.
- Helping the process of writing and implementing of YIA projects.
- Presentations in high schools and universities
- Turkish classes
- Organizing activties within our association and implementing campaingns
- Meetings to find financial sources for our association
- Youth information on European opportunities by Eurodesk and EVS
- Art workshops
- Documentation
- Preparing magazine
- Preparing bulletin
- Assisting or implementing the club activities within our association
Our main objective is proving the reality and relaibility of EU opportunities through our EVS volunteers while we are working on the area of youth information. Volunteers who will participate in the project have not been decided yet, they will be chosen among the applications as soon as we get the acceptence.
If you are interested in our Project please send Cv and Motivation letter to me.
I am waiting good news from you.
----
Hatice Yılmaz
AGH Koordinatörü / Coordinator of EVS
Eurodesk İrtibat Kişisi/ Eurodesk Contact Person
A : Dumlupınar Mah. Gelibolu Cad. Beykara Kent Sitesi A Blok No:2/2 16285 Görükle, Bursa/Türkiye
T | F : (90-224) 225 12 27
M : (90-538) 932 62 71
www.bursanat.org
http://www.bursanat.org/
19 February 2013 13:43
Margus Meigo commented on Sergio Hz's photo.
not a photo proof enought that we was there ;p
19 February 2013 13:21
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
Someone is nicked my shit xD
literally
literally
19 February 2013 13:17
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
fun is named after me
19 February 2013 12:34
Margus Meigo commented on Cambam PsyManiac Cartwright's post.
Between good and better
19 February 2013 11:49
Margus Meigo commented on Märt Põder's photo.
kus piim on?
16 February 2013 17:44
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
can you provide translation as well? :)
16 February 2013 15:58
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
One of the favorite moments in this movie,
the alien/ufo/ET part was as well interesting touch
the alien/ufo/ET part was as well interesting touch
16 February 2013 15:53
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
u creep
16 February 2013 15:33
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
not this one
16 February 2013 15:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
strange beings these reptilians...
"The stomach of a crocodile is a rocky place to be, for more than one reason. To begin with, a croc's digestive system encounters everything from turtles, fish and birds to giraffes, buffalo, lions and even (when defending territory) other crocodiles. In addition to that bellyful-o'-ecosystem, rocks show up too. The reptiles swallow large stones that stay permanently in their bellies. It's been suggested these are used for ballast in diving."
http://www.livescience.com/11346-10-amazing-animals.htmlhttp://www.livescience.com/11346-10-amazing-animals.html
16 February 2013 15:20
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
gets me confused
16 February 2013 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's post.
is that like real butt?
16 February 2013 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
UK is not allowed to access shoutparkStudios.com (strange.. EE is, and PL?) .. anyway,
last time in mac store was starting up on big screen this episode for costumers http://www.watchcartoononline.com/south-park-season-15-episode-1-humancentipad#check HumanCentiPad - For Mac lovers
last time in mac store was starting up on big screen this episode for costumers http://www.watchcartoononline.com/south-park-season-15-episode-1-humancentipad#check HumanCentiPad - For Mac lovers
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/south-park-season-15-episode-1-humancentipad
16 February 2013 15:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
lol :D
16 February 2013 14:55
Margus Meigo commented on Joyce Rheal's link.
Blessed sister
16 February 2013 14:49
Margus Meigo commented on Alter Ed Native's link.
Ola
16 February 2013 13:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net
http://maddox.xmission.com/
16 February 2013 12:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
am saving every day :)
16 February 2013 06:43
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
Mis hangid?
13 February 2013 11:25
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
Like a lot : ))
13 February 2013 11:25
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's video.
can upload to Vimideo as well?
13 February 2013 11:23
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's video.
wish there will be world withe out Flash problems.. arrgh, cant see the video
13 February 2013 11:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: "One World - Our World!" YE in Saaremaa, Estonia
upload some forgetten pictures, videos :)13 February 2013 11:22
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Group: "One World - Our World!" YE in Saaremaa, Estonia
Feeling still Alive! :)13 February 2013 11:21
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
cuddle cuddle cuddle
13 February 2013 10:42
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
not in a dirty ways, cute, from UK to Estonia,
12 February 2013 13:41
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Eurotrip ?
12 February 2013 13:30
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Need help with passport or is that easy matter compared to rest of it to end up in UK .. or in Estland, plant some flower .. on our yard & run around naked in woods (: ?
12 February 2013 13:27
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
none of that seems right now,
if, then a bit Poet
if, then a bit Poet
12 February 2013 13:25
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
kuida kukgeb peale selle ?
12 February 2013 13:15
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
likesin, et selle kurva uudise all Unlike nuppu naha :D
12 February 2013 13:15
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
should live with ya for a while
to (start to) reach
to (start to) reach
12 February 2013 12:23
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
your fling to high for me
always it seems so in the end
always it seems so in the end
12 February 2013 12:16
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
sometimes slipping from mind to have a pair of these or so
12 February 2013 12:10
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
did,
She was with other man :D
She was with other man :D
12 February 2013 12:05
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Birds birds birds... kind of forget about... did you mention birds?
12 February 2013 12:00
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
is there like difference, energy, nutrition, menu ... some other importance wise a lots, ?
12 February 2013 11:04
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
jup, that comes handy babe
12 February 2013 11:03
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
(: what else would be good to know ?
12 February 2013 10:56
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Me newer went away, really
12 February 2013 10:25
Margus Meigo commented on Susan Stanton's post.
Group: Grandmothers Circle the Earth
Huggs Sis12 February 2013 09:44
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
oot, mis pohjus oli?
12 February 2013 08:57
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnis Riisalu's photo.
koht
6 February 2013 09:03
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
So whats good on road?
5 February 2013 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on Piret FireFairy Meinberg's photo.
Onne Onne Onne :)
5 February 2013 17:00
Margus Meigo commented on Psychedelic Apocalypse's photo.
(:4
5 February 2013 16:38
Margus Meigo commented on Aušra Kyguolienė's photo.
this is new
5 February 2013 16:01
Margus Meigo commented on Enit Arusoo's photo.
oo wou
5 February 2013 15:56
Margus Meigo commented on Aušra Kyguolienė's photo.
Is that Monica & You ?
5 February 2013 15:42
Margus Meigo commented on AnonymousEstonia's photo.
OR mida rohkem kasutajaid seda vahvam
http://cryptome.org/0003/tor-spy.htm
http://cryptome.org/0003/tor-spy.htm
http://cryptome.org/0003/tor-spy.htm
30 January 2013 13:04
Margus Meigo commented on Aaron W. Hastings's post.
omg, this party seems epic
30 January 2013 12:43
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Simon's photo.
Wou, sa alati extraUnOrdinary igas uniformis paistad :)
30 January 2013 12:36
Margus Meigo commented on Elika Maarja Vanatoa's post.
mis seal lahedat..
ei tegelt ka, pole ju :D ?
kuid mis oleks lahendus....
ei tegelt ka, pole ju :D ?
kuid mis oleks lahendus....
30 January 2013 12:31
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
ma pole yksi nii kovasti jupp aega naernud :D
30 January 2013 12:30
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's photo.
:D
ehmatasid korraks
ehmatasid korraks
30 January 2013 12:28
Margus Meigo commented on Aaron W. Hastings's post.
What kind of psychedelia is offered in this garden ?
30 January 2013 12:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Loodus un mu kodu : )
30 January 2013 12:23
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's photo.
yeah, Latvian woods are furious
28 January 2013 22:11
Margus Meigo commented on Soft Secrets International's post.
But later issues free on pdf online will be possible on coming times?
28 January 2013 20:46
Margus Meigo commented on UC Berkeley's photo.
their bit patriotic with this map yes
28 January 2013 20:38
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's photo.
glowing chicks
28 January 2013 20:34
Margus Meigo commented on Soft Secrets International's post.
can not recall, was me on list or not,
waffad gmail com
re-add just in case :)
waffad gmail com
re-add just in case :)
28 January 2013 20:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
http://www.disclose.tv/forum/the-lions-club-astonished-by-what-i-have-learned-read-t47730.html (Chicago business leader Melvin Jones asked a simple and world-changing question – what if people put their talents to work improving their communities?)
http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php?topic=3422957.0 (like the "are you serious comment there)
http://www.womenofgrace.com/blog/?p=11840 ( That question was the beginning of the Lions Club which is now the world’s largest service club organization with 1.35 million members in 46,000 clubs around in 191 countries.
Much of the focus of Lions Clubs International work as a secular service club organization is to raise money for worthy causes. Blindness became a top priority in 1925 after Helen Keller addressed the Lions Clubs International Convention in Cedar Point, Ohio, and challenged the Lions to become “knights of the blind in the crusade against darkness.” ) ... ... .:.
I wanted to tell you and the listening audience that the Lions Clubs are listed in The Boycott List of Life Decision International (www.fightpp.org). They are listed in Section IV in the Dishonorable Mention section because the Lions Clubs allow local chapters to fund Planned Parenthood.”
ohh... there is lots more, but time is up right now, back later :)
Kisseshttp://www.disclose.tv/forum/the-lions-club-astonished-by-what-i-have-learned-read-t47730.html
28 January 2013 04:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
(did u know hes name was on leaflet as well ..about MPs who have made public interest note about squatting)
so,
Who Are Lions?
Lions meet the needs of local communities and the world. The 1.35 million members of our volunteer organization in 207 countries and geographic areas are different in many ways, but share a core belief – community is what we make it28 January 2013 04:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
Mr Griffiths said: “The prospect of having to spend a life time in darkness is the most frightening thing I could ever contemplate.
The blindfolded walk brought home to me the need to take into consideration the needs of blind people.”
Councillor Leese said: “The walk was quite frightening in places. That short spell of being deprived of my own sight means I will never look at a blind person in the same way again.”
(ha,ha: The Burton branch of the Lions Club is also looking to recruit new members.
Anyone interested in joining can call Sue Hartley )
WHO are Lions, read next comment28 January 2013 04:15
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Pannett's post.
Group: Linux Friends
today's people need to get handjob top of distro to get satisfied with os change26 January 2013 07:40
Margus Meigo commented on Elika Maarja Vanatoa's post.
saan juhendada teenustega mis vajaliku koju katte toob
Ummm...
(:
Ummm...
(:
26 January 2013 07:30
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
u hippie
26 January 2013 07:19
Margus Meigo commented on Elika Maarja Vanatoa's post.
voi meskaliini vm psyhdeelikue kasutama :)
26 January 2013 07:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Maarja, kuidas seenagu statistiliselt isegi voimalik on, et isegi random likesi antony ei saa?
26 January 2013 07:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid jaame ootele :)
23 January 2013 00:49
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's photo.
Wou!
20 January 2013 01:47
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's post.
they actually come to evict us before court decision
... but as some of us got to excited with play then house was damaged a lots in last day... so not of lot of sympathy to look in here...
we will get better :)
... but as some of us got to excited with play then house was damaged a lots in last day... so not of lot of sympathy to look in here...
we will get better :)
19 January 2013 20:58
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's post.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=roger+street+squatter&oq=roger+street+squatter
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=roger+street+squatter&oq=roger+street+squatter
19 January 2013 03:24
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's post.
Man, how are you doing out there?
19 January 2013 03:23
Margus Meigo commented on Rahul Singh's post.
for sure
16 January 2013 06:07
Margus Meigo commented on Count-Daniel John Fogarty's post.
are we independent of world purpose, unchangeable part or are we the world ?
16 January 2013 06:06
Margus Meigo commented on Count-Daniel John Fogarty's post.
hmm... not sure about the machine part... still hoping...
16 January 2013 06:05
Margus Meigo commented on Exposing The Truth's post.
ok
16 January 2013 06:04
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Šarūnas, ya would love squatting life in London, come by when possible
16 January 2013 03:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mitte oigekiri pole vigane vaid lugemine :p
16 January 2013 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
kumma sa palkaksid, ausa reaalse paris inimese kelle peale saad kindel olla, et ta ei habene inimene olla voi ,,?
16 January 2013 02:53
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Sa oled mu iidol :))
16 January 2013 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on Priidu Mikumets's post.
Group: VIKERKAAR
Kas saad lyhikokkuvotte ja oma arvamuse anda? :)15 January 2013 06:01
Margus Meigo commented on NJ Gregory's post.
Group: Erowid
whats wrong with us15 January 2013 03:35
Margus Meigo commented on Tara Bell's post.
same here Ada
15 January 2013 03:03
Margus Meigo commented on Kristina Viin's post.
ma ei saagi uurida, kas kalender loppes ara voi mite
"The website you are trying to access is blocked by Content Lock as it contains content that is unsuitable for under 18s"
"The website you are trying to access is blocked by Content Lock as it contains content that is unsuitable for under 18s"
15 January 2013 03:02
Margus Meigo commented on Tara Bell's post.
..if we could just think all more
about love
out of thinking we do
about love
out of thinking we do
15 January 2013 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on Paul Joseph Watson's post.
He is amazing!
15 January 2013 02:49
Margus Meigo commented on Paul Joseph Watson's post.
He is amazing!
15 January 2013 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's post.
ups.. on vast ikka
15 January 2013 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's post.
Eip
15 January 2013 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
Enamus neist on vaga ausad (oiged) kaitumised
15 January 2013 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
Jup Nana, this the ones :)
there is lots more from him as well Allan Watts (in yt as well)13 January 2013 08:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
..lootus jaab ja..
11 January 2013 10:45
Margus Meigo commented on Priidu Mikumets's post.
Group: VIKERKAAR
We love you all :)11 January 2013 10:21
Margus Meigo commented on Exposing The Truth's link.
you might not die this year, but still not living... still eating alive plants.. and not living ourself more often
well, speaking for my self at least, makes me Kind of worried about the rest of us
well, speaking for my self at least, makes me Kind of worried about the rest of us
11 January 2013 10:05
Margus Meigo commented on William Floyd's photo.
Womens and their pet-lizards
11 January 2013 09:58
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
vb ma homme kinni, kohtusse :p
9 January 2013 18:04
Margus Meigo commented on Freewheeling Gary Falkenberg's photo.
a bit masonic, isint it
4 January 2013 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on Teresa Lebamoff Alt's post.
Why would u want killa spider darling u
unless u eat her : )
Sweet year continuum
unless u eat her : )
Sweet year continuum
4 January 2013 01:24
Margus Meigo commented on Conspiracy Syndrome's photo.
...
4 January 2013 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on Conspiracy Syndrome's photo.
& We, Help along
4 January 2013 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on Markus Timps's post.
millise tahe?
3 January 2013 22:10
Margus Meigo commented on Fiona Carbis's post.
looks good thought , in a way
3 January 2013 22:06
Margus Meigo commented on Fiona Carbis's post.
well... still a it skeptical to mix plants and plastic.. not sure if plants are loving it ... really
3 January 2013 22:06
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
but yea... where is the water asked fish in ocean..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0KNt2DLpzI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0KNt2DLpzI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0KNt2DLpzI
3 January 2013 06:07
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's photo.
sorry about poetry..
3 January 2013 06:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
: )))
2 January 2013 18:56
Margus Meigo commented on AmaZonia Guarani Kaiowá's post.
Group: Grandmothers Circle the Earth
true, true :)2 January 2013 04:52
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
but it is kind of strange from where and how we pick this up..
2 January 2013 00:46
Margus Meigo commented on Aaron W. Hastings's post.
thats long enought :)
2 January 2013 00:38
Margus Meigo commented on Manob Galaxie Galassia's post.
Good :)
2 January 2013 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on William Savage's post.
Thanks man >)
2 January 2013 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on Käru kommuun's post.
eriti Mari :)
1 January 2013 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on Käru kommuun's post.
Ja spetsjiom tervitus mu klassi odedele ja vendadele! :)
1 January 2013 17:18
Margus Meigo commented on Henry Westons's post.
kuidas paike koitma hakanud Renee?
1 January 2013 16:18
Margus Meigo commented on Porus Homi Havewala's post.
Group: Zoroastrianism
Thanks :)1 January 2013 15:34
Margus Meigo commented on Henry Westons's post.
Oi, njoid tulib palju.. :)
Kallid!
Kallid!
1 January 2013 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on Michael Brückner's post.
Group: Psychedelic Society
Pretty good!31 December 2012 19:12
Margus Meigo commented on Zubair Hassan's post.
Group: Chinese
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heeey:p
good geogorian new year !31 December 2012 17:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Way good, going around near to Vocxhall ridge as well, we squating here... spiritual thought room and stuff... >
30 December 2012 01:48
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
who is she on photo?
29 December 2012 03:54
Margus Meigo commented on Cafu Kayak Caschetto's photo.
make eyes more shiney
29 December 2012 03:28
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
harsh art
29 December 2012 03:26
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
not really using this hand sing for long:p
28 December 2012 20:17
Margus Meigo commented on Eestimaa Armastajad's post.
omg... so sorry for the cock
28 December 2012 20:01
Margus Meigo commented on Paul Joseph Watson's post.
(no worryes people.. what you read might be something else later on..)
28 December 2012 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on Paul Joseph Watson's post.
:D @ Jummy
28 December 2012 00:52
Margus Meigo commented on The Crystal Gateway Rosalie Muir's photo.
This is Love
26 December 2012 19:30
Margus Meigo commented on Daniel Pinchbeck's post.
before everything, main thought to feel: kas me Usume / do we belive? ...
at all
at all
26 December 2012 19:24
Margus Meigo commented on Exposing The Truth's post.
the big bang thingy, even thought far out theory seems also say so
26 December 2012 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on Exposing The Truth's post.
Besides religious scrolls .. Internet, acid? :p
26 December 2012 00:25
Margus Meigo commented on Free Your Mind and Think's photo.
Sounds kind of religious and scientific all in one, looks mystic and alien
Hmm,not sure about agreeing with it but for sure will like
Hmm,not sure about agreeing with it but for sure will like
26 December 2012 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on Daniel Pinchbeck's post.
Lootus : )
25 December 2012 21:46
Margus Meigo commented on Daniel Pinchbeck's post.
Learn Love
non stop,
Hope
..and share more dope, if you can
then do what we should
non stop,
for our WorldPeace OnEarth
non stop,
Hope
..and share more dope, if you can
then do what we should
non stop,
for our WorldPeace OnEarth
25 December 2012 21:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kanepi ga ka sina peal oled? Me eriti ringi ei reisigi, istume, filosofeerime ja kirjutame piiubu seltsis enamuse aja kui aega maha votam:)
25 December 2012 21:23
Margus Meigo commented on Charlie Guvara's post.
thats not sweet Charlie
24 December 2012 22:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Ole vaga vaga kindel et see olen mina kui selle ketta kellegile annad kysides midagi erilist, kindlusemottes
24 December 2012 22:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kas sulle kassi pojad meeldivad?
24 December 2012 21:51
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Me veedame psyhedeelia ja kanepi seltsis, ruja, t magi, matiisen ja muud sorad seltsis korvades ja hinges
24 December 2012 19:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
awwww:)
24 December 2012 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
paris jääaeg ike vast uksetaga veel pole
24 December 2012 01:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Voi mis siin nyyd niivaga meeldida un, et pakane ouel Sul
kas toesti nii raske tali?
kas toesti nii raske tali?
24 December 2012 01:52
Margus Meigo commented on Sunny Oshaguna Tola's post.
yes we are :)
24 December 2012 01:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kui te mingil pohjusel veel ei kasuta opera veebilehitsejat, siis laadige see ja lisage https://addons.opera.com/en-gb/extensions/details/download-youtube-videos-as-mp4/ .. ja kerge vaevaga saate mp4 formaadis filmid ka oma kovakettale.. seni kuni nad yleval on, veel, koos internetiga ( ups... loodame, et see tume huumor pole )
Valgusliku jatku!
Valgusliku jatku!
https://addons.opera.com/extensions/details/download-youtube-videos-as-mp4/
22 December 2012 04:35
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Kus kulged jaanus ?
22 December 2012 04:28
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Ja seda koike kuhjaga ka minult vennas !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B9XYZqYuN8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B9XYZqYuN8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B9XYZqYuN8
22 December 2012 04:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
(Vauxhall, millroad..over here, squatting with kittens and lovely psy minded people)21 December 2012 23:06
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
Awww : )))
21 December 2012 22:56
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
Uut maailma ja kena talvekest ka Sulle odekene
21 December 2012 22:01
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Siin osad valmistusid MaailmaLopu reivile minema alles moni aeg tagasi xD
Kind of like Zion matrix pidustused vms..
Kind of like Zion matrix pidustused vms..
21 December 2012 21:58
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
koristamine ongi ju trenn... keegi motles seda vist juba ennemind
4 December 2012 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
at all
4 December 2012 16:15
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's photo.
this pic is serious
3 December 2012 10:09
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's photo.
omg
3 December 2012 10:08
Margus Meigo commented on Faye Medlock's link.
No wonder one was High @ Ex
3 December 2012 10:06
Margus Meigo commented on WAFF 48 News's photo.
Not sure that like it as it is, can not see last A properly
3 December 2012 09:57
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
& orders
3 December 2012 09:53
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
cannabis is so much more, trick is that you can choose how to use
3 December 2012 09:48
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
rest bit :)
but yeah.. send me these letters and lets keep finding solutions in all directions. Its ... doors we wanna open, lets be sure first we are ready for that, are we, really.. ?
global education about life among smokers before we extend it. few years.
(edu)about respect (appreciation) is whats missing, really
to use nature against us is something that is not good in my book
(to smoke for ideas against something... to still keep the anger.. is wrong sad in so many levels)
but yeah.. send me these letters and lets keep finding solutions in all directions. Its ... doors we wanna open, lets be sure first we are ready for that, are we, really.. ?
global education about life among smokers before we extend it. few years.
(edu)about respect (appreciation) is whats missing, really
to use nature against us is something that is not good in my book
(to smoke for ideas against something... to still keep the anger.. is wrong sad in so many levels)
3 December 2012 09:43
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
dont even wanna know:p
3 December 2012 09:07
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
(:
3 December 2012 09:03
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
its perfect
3 December 2012 09:03
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
can i be remotely?
3 December 2012 09:02
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
but yeah, when we get more feed up we might be smoking wrong ways
3 December 2012 09:00
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
good Faye!, can you send letters to margus.meigo@eesti.ee that u send to them?
any time
any time
3 December 2012 09:00
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
so is it or is it not cold ... world for you?
3 December 2012 08:48
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
auds
3 December 2012 08:47
Margus Meigo commented on The Teafaerie's post.
who is the other 4 :D ?\
30 November 2012 18:11
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
Regina Ilyinichna comes to my mind
30 November 2012 10:35
Margus Meigo commented on The Teafaerie's note.
(getting on different walls..)
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Heey, soething is wrong with privacy thingy, .. would be goods to find out what :)
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Heey, soething is wrong with privacy thingy, .. would be goods to find out what :)
30 November 2012 10:19
Margus Meigo commented on The Teafaerie's post.
heey,
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30 November 2012 10:17
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
lisaks veel:
The National Institutes of Health and Ohio State's Department of Psychology for Society for Neuroscience
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-11/osu-sah111408.php
The more research they do, the more evidence Ohio State University scientists find that specific elements of marijuana can be good for the aging brain by reducing inflammation there and possibly even stimulating the formation of new brain cells.
Wenk's work has already shown that a THC-like synthetic drug can improve memory in animals. Now his team is trying to find out exactly how it works in the brain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/3485163/Marijuana-may-improve-memory-and-help-fight-Alzheimers.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_cannabis#Memory_and_learning
Studies on cannabis and memory are hindered by small sample sizes, confounding drug use, and other factors
jne,
http://news.healingwell.com/index.php?p=news1&id=528519
http://budfacts.com/243/new-study-proves-that-marijuana-increases-brain-cell-formation/
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/10/051016083817.htm
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/highdose-cannabis-stimulates-growth-of-brain-cells-in-rats-510869.html
Loomulikult on proovitud lyhimalu motetute testidega teha suurt propakandat, kuid samas kes siis selleks kanepit suitsetab, et robotliku kasutut infot maletada...
ikka selleks, et ajus paremaid yhendusi luua mis pildi selgemaks ja minu puhul isiklikult touseb motivatsioon kasulike asjade tegemiseks, vaga suurelt (koristamine, unustatud asjade tegemine, asjade kaiku panemine jne)
The National Institutes of Health and Ohio State's Department of Psychology for Society for Neuroscience
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-11/osu-sah111408.php
The more research they do, the more evidence Ohio State University scientists find that specific elements of marijuana can be good for the aging brain by reducing inflammation there and possibly even stimulating the formation of new brain cells.
Wenk's work has already shown that a THC-like synthetic drug can improve memory in animals. Now his team is trying to find out exactly how it works in the brain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/3485163/Marijuana-may-improve-memory-and-help-fight-Alzheimers.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_cannabis#Memory_and_learning
Studies on cannabis and memory are hindered by small sample sizes, confounding drug use, and other factors
jne,
http://news.healingwell.com/index.php?p=news1&id=528519
http://budfacts.com/243/new-study-proves-that-marijuana-increases-brain-cell-formation/
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/10/051016083817.htm
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/highdose-cannabis-stimulates-growth-of-brain-cells-in-rats-510869.html
Loomulikult on proovitud lyhimalu motetute testidega teha suurt propakandat, kuid samas kes siis selleks kanepit suitsetab, et robotliku kasutut infot maletada...
ikka selleks, et ajus paremaid yhendusi luua mis pildi selgemaks ja minu puhul isiklikult touseb motivatsioon kasulike asjade tegemiseks, vaga suurelt (koristamine, unustatud asjade tegemine, asjade kaiku panemine jne)
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-11/osu-sah111408.php
30 November 2012 09:10
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
tosi ta ole, eks nad toestavad igast asju kui testid ylesse seada toestamiseks :p
on ju ka uuringuid kus kanep uusi aju rakke juurde kasvatab, ebavajaliku informatsiooni tahaplaanile paneb lyhimalus ja lausa alzhaimeri puhul pidi aitama ...
googlesin kiirelt netis ja tirisin valja yhte teist (mitte, et see uus info sinu jaoks oleks, kuid kes iganes lugema juhtub..)
Study Finds No Long-Term Neurological Impairments with Cannabis Use (July 10th, 2012 Department of Psychology at the University of Central Florida )
http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/cannabis-long-term-neurologic-impairment-0710122
Siin omakorda uus lahenemine sellele malu kysimusele:
Acute Cannabinoids Impair Working Memory through Astroglial CB1 Receptor Modulation of Hippocampal LTD (March 2012)
http://www.cell.com/retrieve/pii/S0092867412001420
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867412001420
“Marijuana makes you forgetful,” say most headlines about this paper, but let’s face it, that’s not news. That’s the premise of every stoner comedy ever made.
The real news is the importance of a type of brain cells called astroglia, which have long been ignored while researchers focus on neurons. THC, the psychoactive chemical in marijuana, impairs working memory by connecting to astroglia, according to a new paper published in Cell (http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/03/06/no-surprise-pot-messes-with-memory-surprise-its-not-by-affecting-neurons/#.ULhUL1ScGJM )
siin siis lyhi malust natuke:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_and_memory#Short-term_memory
Short-term memory is the system that allows people to remember things over a brief period of time and that can be used to describe performance on a particular type of task that involves the simple retention of small amounts of information and that is tested either immediately or after a short delay.[40] From the short-term memory store, information is available for use by working memory or can is transferred to long-term memory.[40] Short-term memory has a limited capacity that is often described as 7 ± 2 chunks of information such as words or numbers
Yhesonaga ajutine informatsioon enamasti, ja enamasti testides ei anta inimestele vajaliku informatsiooni maletamiseks, kanep ei aita sul maletada kasutut informatsiooni mis pole sinu enda suure pildiga seotud. Taime efekt on rohkem uute kogemuste ja arusaamiste kinnitamine mis on palju olulisem kui kymne suvalise nime voi numbri maletamine mingis laboris
imho
Vaevalt, et teadlased kes kanepit kasutavad oma maluga teadlikult riskivad
on ju ka uuringuid kus kanep uusi aju rakke juurde kasvatab, ebavajaliku informatsiooni tahaplaanile paneb lyhimalus ja lausa alzhaimeri puhul pidi aitama ...
googlesin kiirelt netis ja tirisin valja yhte teist (mitte, et see uus info sinu jaoks oleks, kuid kes iganes lugema juhtub..)
Study Finds No Long-Term Neurological Impairments with Cannabis Use (July 10th, 2012 Department of Psychology at the University of Central Florida )
http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/cannabis-long-term-neurologic-impairment-0710122
Siin omakorda uus lahenemine sellele malu kysimusele:
Acute Cannabinoids Impair Working Memory through Astroglial CB1 Receptor Modulation of Hippocampal LTD (March 2012)
http://www.cell.com/retrieve/pii/S0092867412001420
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867412001420
“Marijuana makes you forgetful,” say most headlines about this paper, but let’s face it, that’s not news. That’s the premise of every stoner comedy ever made.
The real news is the importance of a type of brain cells called astroglia, which have long been ignored while researchers focus on neurons. THC, the psychoactive chemical in marijuana, impairs working memory by connecting to astroglia, according to a new paper published in Cell (http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/03/06/no-surprise-pot-messes-with-memory-surprise-its-not-by-affecting-neurons/#.ULhUL1ScGJM )
siin siis lyhi malust natuke:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_and_memory#Short-term_memory
Short-term memory is the system that allows people to remember things over a brief period of time and that can be used to describe performance on a particular type of task that involves the simple retention of small amounts of information and that is tested either immediately or after a short delay.[40] From the short-term memory store, information is available for use by working memory or can is transferred to long-term memory.[40] Short-term memory has a limited capacity that is often described as 7 ± 2 chunks of information such as words or numbers
Yhesonaga ajutine informatsioon enamasti, ja enamasti testides ei anta inimestele vajaliku informatsiooni maletamiseks, kanep ei aita sul maletada kasutut informatsiooni mis pole sinu enda suure pildiga seotud. Taime efekt on rohkem uute kogemuste ja arusaamiste kinnitamine mis on palju olulisem kui kymne suvalise nime voi numbri maletamine mingis laboris
imho
Vaevalt, et teadlased kes kanepit kasutavad oma maluga teadlikult riskivad
http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/cannabis-long-term-neurologic-impairment-0710122
30 November 2012 09:06
Margus Meigo commented on The Teafaerie's post.
well, happens to me time to time as well, know the situation but not the feelings related to it
30 November 2012 06:31
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
selleparast ma alati soovitanud meele myrikde asemel meelte ravimeid ")
30 November 2012 06:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
In 1979, there were estimated to be 50,000 squatters throughout Britain, with the majority (30,000) living in London.[11] There was a London's Squatters' Union in which Piers Corbyn was involved. For eighteen months, it was housed at Huntley Street, where over 150 people lived in 52 flats. The union organised festivals and provided homes for the homeless
In 2003, it was estimated that there were 15,000 squatters in England and Wales
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting_in_England_and_Waleshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting_in_England_and_Wales
29 November 2012 15:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting#Englandhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting#England
29 November 2012 15:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
Some more links>
http://www.wussu.com/squatting/http://www.wussu.com/squatting/
29 November 2012 15:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Urfa in the Tektek Mountains, deserves attention. Discovered in 1997 and investigated by archaeologist Bahattin Çelik of the Turkish Historical Society, it has been dated to c. 9500–9000 BC. It has a number of T-pillars as well as high reliefs of a winding snake and other carvings similar to those at Göbekli Tepe. Covering an area of 325,000 m2, Karahan Tepe is much bigger than Göbekli Tepe. The stone pillars are spaced 1.5 to 2.0 metres apart and protrude above ground level, waiting for an archaeologist to expose them fully. Other carved stones include a battered torso of a naked man and polished rock with forms of goats, gazelles and rabbits.
It is too early to draw any extraordinary conclusions from these sites, apart from the fact that our history is no longer as we know it. But just as Jericho proved in part that the Bible contains historical facts, these sites may yet substantiate some of the Sumerian myths which claimed that agriculture, animal husbandry and weaving had been brought to mankind from the sacred mountain Du-Ku, which was inhabited by the Anunna deities.
http://www.philipcoppens.com/gobekli.html
It is too early to draw any extraordinary conclusions from these sites, apart from the fact that our history is no longer as we know it. But just as Jericho proved in part that the Bible contains historical facts, these sites may yet substantiate some of the Sumerian myths which claimed that agriculture, animal husbandry and weaving had been brought to mankind from the sacred mountain Du-Ku, which was inhabited by the Anunna deities.
http://www.philipcoppens.com/gobekli.html
http://www.philipcoppens.com/gobekli.html
29 November 2012 14:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
In the Book of Genesis, it is indicated that Eden is west of Assyria. Sure enough, this is where Gobekli is sited.
Likewise, biblical Eden is by four rivers, including the Tigris and Euphrates. And Gobekli lies between both of these.
In ancient Assyrian texts, there is mention of a 'Beth Eden' - a house of Eden. This minor kingdom was 50 miles from Gobekli Tepe.
Another book in the Old Testament talks of 'the children of Eden which were in Thelasar', a town in northern Syria, near Gobekli.
The very word 'Eden' comes from the Sumerian for 'plain'; Gobekli lies on the plains of Harran.
Thus, when you put it all together, the evidence is persuasive. Gobekli Tepe is, indeed, a 'temple in Eden', built by our leisured and fortunate ancestors - people who had time to cultivate art, architecture and complex ritual, before the traumas of agriculture ruined their lifestyle, and devastated their paradise.
It's a stunning and seductive idea. Yet it has a sinister epilogue. Because the loss of paradise seems to have had a strange and darkening effect on the human mind.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1157784/Do-mysterious-stones-mark-site-Garden-Eden.html
Likewise, biblical Eden is by four rivers, including the Tigris and Euphrates. And Gobekli lies between both of these.
In ancient Assyrian texts, there is mention of a 'Beth Eden' - a house of Eden. This minor kingdom was 50 miles from Gobekli Tepe.
Another book in the Old Testament talks of 'the children of Eden which were in Thelasar', a town in northern Syria, near Gobekli.
The very word 'Eden' comes from the Sumerian for 'plain'; Gobekli lies on the plains of Harran.
Thus, when you put it all together, the evidence is persuasive. Gobekli Tepe is, indeed, a 'temple in Eden', built by our leisured and fortunate ancestors - people who had time to cultivate art, architecture and complex ritual, before the traumas of agriculture ruined their lifestyle, and devastated their paradise.
It's a stunning and seductive idea. Yet it has a sinister epilogue. Because the loss of paradise seems to have had a strange and darkening effect on the human mind.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1157784/Do-mysterious-stones-mark-site-Garden-Eden.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1157784/Do-mysterious-stones-mark-site-Garden-Eden.html
29 November 2012 14:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Urfa in the Tektek Mountains, deserves attention. Discovered in 1997 and investigated by archaeologist Bahattin Çelik of the Turkish Historical Society, it has been dated to c. 9500–9000 BC. It has a number of T-pillars as well as high reliefs of a winding snake and other carvings similar to those at Göbekli Tepe. Covering an area of 325,000 m2, Karahan Tepe is much bigger than Göbekli Tepe. The stone pillars are spaced 1.5 to 2.0 metres apart and protrude above ground level, waiting for an archaeologist to expose them fully. Other carved stones include a battered torso of a naked man and polished rock with forms of goats, gazelles and rabbits.
It is too early to draw any extraordinary conclusions from these sites, apart from the fact that our history is no longer as we know it. But just as Jericho proved in part that the Bible contains historical facts, these sites may yet substantiate some of the Sumerian myths which claimed that agriculture, animal husbandry and weaving had been brought to mankind from the sacred mountain Du-Ku, which was inhabited by the Anunna deities.
http://www.philipcoppens.com/gobekli.html
It is too early to draw any extraordinary conclusions from these sites, apart from the fact that our history is no longer as we know it. But just as Jericho proved in part that the Bible contains historical facts, these sites may yet substantiate some of the Sumerian myths which claimed that agriculture, animal husbandry and weaving had been brought to mankind from the sacred mountain Du-Ku, which was inhabited by the Anunna deities.
http://www.philipcoppens.com/gobekli.html
http://www.philipcoppens.com/gobekli.html
29 November 2012 14:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
In the Book of Genesis, it is indicated that Eden is west of Assyria. Sure enough, this is where Gobekli is sited.
Likewise, biblical Eden is by four rivers, including the Tigris and Euphrates. And Gobekli lies between both of these.
In ancient Assyrian texts, there is mention of a 'Beth Eden' - a house of Eden. This minor kingdom was 50 miles from Gobekli Tepe.
Another book in the Old Testament talks of 'the children of Eden which were in Thelasar', a town in northern Syria, near Gobekli.
The very word 'Eden' comes from the Sumerian for 'plain'; Gobekli lies on the plains of Harran.
Thus, when you put it all together, the evidence is persuasive. Gobekli Tepe is, indeed, a 'temple in Eden', built by our leisured and fortunate ancestors - people who had time to cultivate art, architecture and complex ritual, before the traumas of agriculture ruined their lifestyle, and devastated their paradise.
It's a stunning and seductive idea. Yet it has a sinister epilogue. Because the loss of paradise seems to have had a strange and darkening effect on the human mind.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1157784/Do-mysterious-stones-mark-site-Garden-Eden.html
Likewise, biblical Eden is by four rivers, including the Tigris and Euphrates. And Gobekli lies between both of these.
In ancient Assyrian texts, there is mention of a 'Beth Eden' - a house of Eden. This minor kingdom was 50 miles from Gobekli Tepe.
Another book in the Old Testament talks of 'the children of Eden which were in Thelasar', a town in northern Syria, near Gobekli.
The very word 'Eden' comes from the Sumerian for 'plain'; Gobekli lies on the plains of Harran.
Thus, when you put it all together, the evidence is persuasive. Gobekli Tepe is, indeed, a 'temple in Eden', built by our leisured and fortunate ancestors - people who had time to cultivate art, architecture and complex ritual, before the traumas of agriculture ruined their lifestyle, and devastated their paradise.
It's a stunning and seductive idea. Yet it has a sinister epilogue. Because the loss of paradise seems to have had a strange and darkening effect on the human mind.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1157784/Do-mysterious-stones-mark-site-Garden-Eden.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1157784/Do-mysterious-stones-mark-site-Garden-Eden.html
29 November 2012 14:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Q: Do you think that austerity measures in countries like Greece have gone far enough?
A: I honestly haven’t seen any austerity in Greece. It’s a rich country with a high level of consumption and the present situation in Greece is far better than what we experienced in Estonia in the early 1990s. They are spending a lot – much more than they earn – so it can’t be called austerity, but they need to make changes and they need to adjust. Fortunately now they are going more or less by the plan which we finance ministers are discussing every month. This is the pre-condition for getting financing for their deficit.
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2012/10/02/five-minutes-with-estonian-finance-minister-jurgen-ligi-i-honestly-havent-seen-any-austerity-in-greece/
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2012/10/02/five-minutes-with-estonian-finance-minister-jurgen-ligi-i-honestly-havent-seen-any-austerity-in-greece/
A: I honestly haven’t seen any austerity in Greece. It’s a rich country with a high level of consumption and the present situation in Greece is far better than what we experienced in Estonia in the early 1990s. They are spending a lot – much more than they earn – so it can’t be called austerity, but they need to make changes and they need to adjust. Fortunately now they are going more or less by the plan which we finance ministers are discussing every month. This is the pre-condition for getting financing for their deficit.
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2012/10/02/five-minutes-with-estonian-finance-minister-jurgen-ligi-i-honestly-havent-seen-any-austerity-in-greece/
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2012/10/02/five-minutes-with-estonian-finance-minister-jurgen-ligi-i-honestly-havent-seen-any-austerity-in-greece/
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2012/10/02/five-minutes-with-estonian-finance-minister-jurgen-ligi-i-honestly-havent-seen-any-austerity-in-greece/
29 November 2012 12:08
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Romantika Nõuanded Harjutused Meestele
neeh... ei tea kas ikka arvaks nii karmilt EUst
kuid loppsona oli omaparane:
@ Eesti on kõige avatum riik maailmas ja see on talle täiesti paras.@29 November 2012 07:17
Margus Meigo commented on Gregory Folken's photo.
hope u 2 getting along well
29 November 2012 07:08
Margus Meigo commented on Freewheeling Gary Falkenberg's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
Sean, you all good29 November 2012 06:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
17:33 .... everything is
other side of red
other side of red
24 November 2012 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on Luke Gray's photo.
3 total broke downs , by last having nothing in it left to held plant up
21 November 2012 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on Christ Michael's post.
can we extend this explenaton, with some minimal explenation to see side by side what is meant by self-forgetting vs self-reminding -- sublime thinking
20 November 2012 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
heey mate
jup in London, no things in squat
where are we heading to?
jup in London, no things in squat
where are we heading to?
19 November 2012 05:48
Margus Meigo commented on Waffa Margus Meigo ( life & traveling humor comedy sex jokes video music ..'s video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THeiBOfD8OA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THeiBOfD8OA
18 November 2012 11:47
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
mine tea.. vb tuleb hoopis suurendada, kordades kymme, sada.. siis tuleb midagi valja ka sellest rahast.. muidu liialt vaike summa, et midagi toota (isegi ehk siis kui oleks niii kitsas kaes, et rohkem anda ei saa ning kasutus oleks taielikult oigusparane)
18 November 2012 05:10
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Melhuish's post.
true, true
18 November 2012 05:08
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
but seriously / if we become smart, we shall help church to become again spiritual / educational center that helps to keep power off from Really wrong hands, as much as we can, with no violence
fighting with demons (with "their" tools) makes them stronger (also inside us..), simple as that.13 November 2012 20:57
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Palmer's post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
No fuck.. have sex... make Love !
but seriously, this weaponry thing is messed up... perhaps we shall go and present our mind guns there as well while they do their thang13 November 2012 20:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Hobo Hilton
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/squatters-take-over-michael-jackson-rehab-clinic-off-chelseas-kings-road-8311908.html
(all these news related posts just disapaired from my wall.. not sure whats up with that)http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/squatters-take-over-michael-jackson-rehab-clinic-off-chelseas-kings-road-8311908.html
13 November 2012 20:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(to late for video just noticed... but hey, still good link thought)
13 November 2012 06:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
how is going? and coming?
The tale?
The tale?
13 November 2012 06:54
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/tesla.html
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/tesla.html
12 November 2012 21:59
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla
12 November 2012 21:58
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Käo's photo.
naish, tosine
12 November 2012 09:58
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Käo's photo.
sina noorena ?
12 November 2012 09:57
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
eiei, ma tegelt ei ole ju tibilsis, lenda Londonisse parem (ka*) :p
12 November 2012 09:11
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's photo.
Mmmmmmm..:)
12 November 2012 09:10
Margus Meigo commented on Pilvi Blankin Jones's post.
Group: Meie Eesti
akki keegi keerab Valitsusele elektri hinna labi karu?12 November 2012 07:46
Margus Meigo commented on Andreas Kõrgend's photo.
aaa mulle see vaaaga meeldib
12 November 2012 07:25
Margus Meigo commented on Solene Cravic's link.
How is going for You & Co ?
12 November 2012 06:15
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
anna teada kuidas oli :)
11 November 2012 15:26
Margus Meigo commented on Elika Maarja Vanatoa's post.
Huvitava (avatud) naise kuulamine :)
11 November 2012 15:25
Margus Meigo commented on Yi Zhe's photo.
Is this clothing for merryng, you told me about ? :)
11 November 2012 12:51
Margus Meigo commented on Freewheeling Gary Falkenberg's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
Love11 November 2012 10:18
Margus Meigo commented on Bobby Bel's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
expose evil (if there is..) do not resist it, .. someone told
and what about this 7 million people who rule us... (the hopeful 1 %) .. should there really be more? ..i kind of think there was less..
..but yeah, lots of it is like > Dooh, how else should it be?
... and we kind of forget, people who OWN the money, do not need to collect it, seriously
what about science based bitcoin thought?11 November 2012 10:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
aiki: Majandamisega, nagu ikka :)
More links related, reference:
http://www.savethecrosskeys.co.uk/?page_id=18 (click "See More" for list)
31 Oct http://londonist.com/2012/10/historic-chelsea-pub-attracts-squatters.php
The squatters insist they’re only there with good intentions, looking after the building until a suitable buyer can be found. They reckon to have fixed the toilets, unblocked the drains and got rid of mice, while trying to maintain a friendly dialogue with neighbours.
04 Nov http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8c5d7a00-2510-11e2-a6aa-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2Bsq7jEbD -
The Empty Homes Agency estimates there are as many as 720,000 empty properties in England.
09 Nov http://www.sbwire.com/press-releases/group-of-squatters-occupies-one-of-oldest-pubs-in-london-178814.htm
On moving in, the squatters had posted a hand-drawn sign decorated with flowers that sought to assure neighbors they were “quiet and respectful” and planned to keep the pub “safe and tidy until it is going to be used again.” A representative from a neighborhood association said he disagreed with the squatters’ action, though he found them “very hospitable.” The neighborhood group, whose “Save Cross Keys” signs can be seen in nearby building windows, said its goal was to see the pub sold to another owner and maintained as a hostelry.
06 Nov http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/constructionandproperty/9658410/Squatters-take-a-commercial-break.html
http://www.lccsa.org.uk/news.asp?ItemID=28142&pcid=2&cid=15&archive=yes
I am in London’s richest borough, in the Cross Keys, a gorgeous old pub that welcomed Whistler, Sargent and Turner as regulars and in more recent years hosted engagement parties for Pippa Middleton’s set.
Most of them came from the old BT headquarters in Holborn – the Hobo Hilton, as it was nicknamed – and this week they have lost a court hearing and will be evicted from the pub. Where will they move to? Another commercial property.
Nov 1 http://blog.zagat.com/2012/11/squatters-occupy-cross-keys-in-chelsea.html
The same owner and property developer, Robert Bourne is also hoping to close nearby The Phene. Sign the 'Save The Phene' petition online now before another Chelsea institution is left to squatters and mice.
29 Oct http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/professional-squatters-take-over-historic-chelsea-pub-the-cross-keys-8230421.html
Residents in Lawrence Street said there had been little disturbance from the squatters at the Cross Keys. Matthew Millett, 30, a property consultant, said: “I would prefer it if they weren’t there but they haven’t caused me any nuisance or made me feel unsafe.
Nov 4 http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/800f343c-2506-11e2-86fb-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2Bsq7jEbD
The Cross Keys squatters gather around a large table for a lunch of roast chicken and vegetables with a wine sauce, all foraged from skips outside shops. Others are draped across the green leather sofas in front of a fire, and still more are out at university or work. “This is the one per cent of squats,” Arthur jokes.
12 Oct http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2012/oct/12/squatting-comercial-premises-social-nuisance-utility?newsfeed=true
group of squatters occupying the empty BT offices in central London's Holborn were ordered to leave those premises by Master Yoxall sitting in the high court.
The other consideration is the UK's huge housing problem. There are 20,000 squatters in the UK, and the Squatters' Action for Secure Homes claim there are 930 000 properties sitting empty (including residential).
29 Oct http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2224891/Historic-300-year-old-Chelsea-pub-taken-squatters-plan-serve-Sunday-lunch.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Historic 300-year-old Chelsea pub taken over by squatters who plan to serve Sunday lunch
But Mr Bourne said it was 'outrageous' that the squatters could move into the pub.
He told the Evening Standard: 'The notice they have put on the door is rubbish and the police have been called out by neighbours some three times already. It has brought crime to the area.
(not really..)
'They are professional squatters who know exactly what they are doing. They will be gone in a week or so, I think they will probably walk out after November 5.'
26 Oct http://www.westendextra.com/news/2012/oct/squatters-evicted-%E2%80%98hobo “We always knew it was temporary,” said activist Johnny Remlap, one of the managers of the “Hilton”, who says it was born out of the Occupy St Paul’s movement.
Before the police shut it down, the political hub played host to several groups, including Greenpeace, Occupy and Anonymous UK.
Activities included a weekly cabaret and “blistering satire”, along with seminars on the issues of “social justice” and “inequality.”
It also provided shelter to homeless people who the activists befriended while squatting.-hilton%E2%80%99
06 Aug http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/9450490/Can-Bob-Marleys-local-pub-be-saved.html
It is just one example of a problem endemic throughout Britain. Since 2008, 4,500 pubs have been lost.
A petition to save the Cross Keys has been signed by more than 4,500 people, and a Twitter appeal is being supported by former customers Piers Morgan and Zac Goldsmith.
26 Sep http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/General-News/Chelsea-pub-the-Cross-Keys-saved-from-closure
An historic pub in Chelsea, west London, has been saved from closure by the Planning Inspectorate after the owner sought to turn the site into housing.
19 Sep http://gyngellblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/09/we-need-not-give-into-the-inevitable-demise-of-the-british-pub-a-successful-campaign-to-save-one-of-.html
So its multi-millionaire owner faces a decision. If he is determined to play dog in the manger and not to reopen it the Council must take further action. After all it was a pub, not a house that he bought in the first place. If he has no appetite for running it as a pub he must sell it to someone who does. The Royal Borough must make it clear to him that they will not tolerate this building – this community hub – standing empty; they will not allow this beautiful 400 year old building to be run down. They must tell him to re-open or else.
Jul 9 http://www.kingsroadrocks.com/2012/07/save-the-cross-keys-pub
It was that kind of place: low-key but full of wonderful surprises and a real local’s haven.Sadly The Ifield has been converted into flats. At first I was shocked to see my favourite pub become a residential property but it seems that developers are keen to turn more of Chelsea’s gems into homes.The latest pubs at risk are The Phene and most urgently, Chelsea’s oldest pub: The Cross Keys.
25 Oct http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/battle-for-the-boozer-hugh-grant-joins-fight-to-save-the-phene-arms-8225851.html
...you can’t move for the cast of Made in Chelsea in the beer garden — creating the £27,000-a-week turnover an independent consultant estimates it generates..
from friends & partners in "crime"
5 Nov http://www.times-series.co.uk/news/10029686.Author_and_TV_personality_Will_Self_backs_library_squatters/
A group of squatters took over the empty building in September and have since reopened their own community library, containing more than 8,000 donated books.
20 Oct http://www.barnet-today.co.uk/news.cfm?id=36580&headline=Writer%20Will%20Self%20to%20visit%20library%20squatters
AUTHOR and journalist Will Self will be coming to the former Friern Barnet Library – which is currently being run by squatters – to sign copies of his new book Umbrella.
Self, who was nominated for the Man Booker prize for the work, lost out on Monday evening to Bring Up The Bodies by Hilary Mantel – her second win in four years.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2211854/Lloyds-Banking-Group-Protesters-control-bank-worth-750k-affluent-suburb.html (nice article)
Squatters who have moved into a high-value property which belongs to a high street banking giant have described it as the 'best squat ever'
28 Nov http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/nov/28/ubs-squatters-eviction-adjournment
A high court judge has warned activists occupying a former bank in central London that a delay in legal proceedings to evict them should not be taken as "any sign of encouragement". .
Representatives of the Circle Community , an umbrella organisation that took over the former UBS offichttp://circlecommunity.org/ es on 18 November, began celebrating in court when Mr Justice Roth told them the possession order, issued by Sun Street Properties Limited, which is owned by the Swiss bank, would not be enforced before 12 December.
Oct 23 http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Neighbourly-squatters-old-bank/story-17156472-detail/story.html
After being served with an eviction notice by Lloyds a group of six men moved out yesterday.
They held up signs proclaiming "Best squat evah!" and "Another banking mess up".
"We also want to make the point that we have kept the house in good order – there is no graffiti or mess and all of the brass door knobs, chandeliers and copper piping are as we found them."
Oct 26 http://www.brixtonblog.com/squatters-group-called-rage-against-tesco-occupying-george-iv-music-bar/7774
Squatters have occupied the George IV pub, Brixton Hill, to try and prevent Tesco from continuing their development of a new Express store in the building.
The group, called Rage Against Tesco (RAT), entered the ground floor of the building
For info:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19436265 - Q&A: Squatting laws
07 Nov http://www.out-law.com/en/articles/2012/november/changes-to-squatting-laws-should-be-extended-to-commercial-property-expert-says/
One of the most high profile recent commercial property squatting cases involves the 300-year-old Cross Keys pub in London's affluent Chelsea area
Oct 17 http://www.harrowobserver.co.uk/west-london-news/2012/10/17/sqautters-guard-library-building-ahead-of-sale-116451-32049278/
The rumours started after people “moved in” to an empty library building in Friern Barnet and started running it as a community book-lending service after the council closed the official library. Members of the Occupy movement who are currently living in the building are fighting eviction proceedings with Barnet Counci
31 Oct http://www.access-legal.co.uk/legal-news/Can-the-new-law-on-evicting-squatters-keep-up-with-the-PACE-4956.htm
When can the police make an arrest?
12 Oct http://www.caterersearch.com/Articles/12/10/2012/346013/Wake-up-call-Anti-squatting-law-applies-to-residential-properties.htm
The new criminal offence doesn't cover commercial properties, but solicitor David Marsden has some advice for safeguarding your premises:
Oct 12 http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/second_westminster_squatter_evicted_under_new_powers_1_1651832
It is the second time CityWest Homes have used the power after a squatter voluntarily left a property on September 7, after being warned he faced arrest.The council believes it was the first authority to use a new squatting law, which came into force on September 1, giving police the power to evict squatters without a court ruling.
11 Nov http://www.thestar.co.uk/lifestyle/property-news/stephanie-robinson-answers-your-rental-questions-1-5107713
have heard new anti-squatting laws have been introduced. How do they affect my rights?
Oct 30 http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=334eba6c-8a82-420f-9a7c-5cc1c714f330
But there is real concern that the criminalising of squatting in residential premises will drive squatters to commercial premises, requiring owners to rely on the slow and expensive civil eviction process. The fear is that, particularly in the current economic climate, the numerous empty shops and offices will become prime targets for squatters.One group of squatters has already taken over a large vacant office block in High Holborn. In Kent, a local campaign has been launched to criminalise squatting in commercial premises, following the occupation by squatters of a boarded-up local pub.
17 Oct http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/westmidlands/news/383350-cp-email-watch-out-for-squatters-warns-cobbetts.html?news_section=19011
A large group has already taken over a 40,000 sq ft building in London’s West End, naming it the ‘Hobo Hilton’, with more instances expected to follow.
Sep 1 http://uk.news.yahoo.com/squatters-face-jail-rights-axed-004726212.html
Ministers said the move would shut the door on squatters once and for all and help protect homeowners."For too long, squatters have had the justice system on the run and have caused homeowners untold misery in eviction, repair and clean-up costs," Justice minister Crispin Blunt said. Housing minister Grant Shapps added: "No longer will there be so-called 'squatters' rights'.
History
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000068899&story_title=How-little-known-squatters-inspired-gallant-Mau-Mau-to-fight-colonialists
In protest the squatters withdrew their labour and in 1946 widespread strikes erupted as workers in more than 400 settler farms rejected the tenancy contracts.
Nov 4 http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2b3038ce-2675-11e2-9295-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2Bsq7jEbD
“It’s a really well-run community organisation. And it gives something unique to the local area,” said Charlotte Ballard, who has lived in Leytonstone for the past year. “The residents are very welcoming, and I haven’t seen any evidence of violence, or antisocial behaviour.
The 491 Gallery in Leytonstone, previously a derelict factory and storage space, has regularly hosted exhibitions, film screenings, gigs, and life drawing and exercise classes, which local people can attend for free.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/richard-madeley-my-shock-as-i-witnessed-the-squalid-1390236
Richard Madeley has just made a documentary on Britain’s squatters and is still plainly horrified when he talks about the plight of one group he met
Media and other links
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19433404
http://www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/multimedia/news/2012/10/30/squatters-move-into-one-of-chelsea-s-oldest-pubs-82029-32130640/#9
http://www.occuworld.org/news/94338.
http://vimeo.com/50827355
https://vimeo.com/51549328
http://bambuser.com/v/3073777 19min
http://londonist.com/2012/10/londonist-behind-the-lens-marc-fairhurst.php/_dsc0751
http://www.blottr.com/breaking-news/hobo-hilton-police-and-bailiffs-evict-acitivist-occupied-building-london
oct 23 http://occupynewsnetwork.co.uk/hobo-hilton-heir-apparant-to-st-pauls-evicted-on-oct-19th/
19 oct http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2012/10/501475.html?c=on
27 oct http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2012/10/501902.html
“Don’t know the face?” she challenged aggressively.
“From what?” I said as I staggered in towards the dimly-lit reception desk where a group of dishevelled youths lolled in different attitudes watching a computer screen. I told them about my plans for a possible theatrical production and a showing of my collages in the building. A big guy called Dan said it sounded what they were looking for, and it just so happened that a flash art exhibition was being planned for the following weekend
http://undercurrentsvideo.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/hobo-hilton-being-evicted-now.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fairhurst_photos/8094385886/
http://en.squat.net/2012/09/30/london-hobo-hilton/
http://www.demotix.com/news/1484395/hobo-hilton-opens-its-doors-central-london#media-1484208
http://evictionresistance.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/a-trip-to-newly-opened-hobo-hilton.html
http://phoenixrainbow23.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/a-trip-to-newly-opened-hobo-hilton.html
http://occupylondon.org.uk/locations/hobo-hilton
Blog from squatter
http://izzybody.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/squatting-at-hobo-hilton-occupy-and.html
http://izzybody.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/the-cross-keys-squat-in-chelsea.html
http://www.whosjack.org/squatters-in-the-cross-keys-pub/
What do you think about the Squatters? Entitled and doing a good job or feel they are entitled and should go rent a flat like everyone else?
http://fjlathome2.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/another-one-and-more.html
Oh! Look at that Pelican on the wall of the Cross Keys pub there. That's a Stuart Freemason symbol, rarely displayed in England.
Evidently the favourite Chelsea drinking haunt of the 'Stuart Masons' of the 'rebel cell'.
John Singer Sergant was ostensibly a part of a 'Rebel Cell' that often gathered at Whistler's studios. ( Gone into in this post here.) Therefore in all probability, Walter Sickert and Edgar Degas drank at the Cross Keys and the Phene too, the Cross Keys in particular. And of course Oscar Wilde was there, and, presumably, the other 'Stuart Masons', many of whom were artists and era aristocrats with Jacobinism prominently figuring in their ancestry.
http://thylacosmilus.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/well-why-dont-you-buy-it-then.html
You mean you’re stealing someone else’s property and expect to be treated like Robin Hood because you’re ‘giving back to the community’?
http://andrewlainton.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/public-inquiry-as-pub-turning-over-27k-a-week-proposed-as-20-million-home/
This time, Bourne has upped the ante. Instead of merely appealing against the council’s decision, he asked for a public inquiry, a move considered highly unusual and incredibly expensive.Timothy Comyn, the barrister representing Bourne, dismissed the protesters’ claims that the pub still had strong ties to the community
http://fromthehornetsnest.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/save-cross-keys-pub-chelseas-oldest.html
It would appear that an in-house planning officer will be pitting her wits against a formidable and powerful team being fielded by the developer. We know she is good, but it will be a tough call.
Doubtless Bourne and co have retained top planning 'silks' to get their way. In other words, our council is going in front of the Inspector with it's hands tied behind it's back
http://blog.zagat.com/2012/11/squatters-occupy-cross-keys-in-chelsea.html
According to the Londonist the squatters insist they have good intentions and are looking after the property until a suitable buyer can be found. (They have apparently fixed the toilet and got rid of mice.)
http://www.josephinemcdermott.com/?p=519 - Latest BBC Feature: Squatters take over one of London’s oldest pubs
http://www.chinchinjobs.com/news/article/3518 - Squatters Take Over Famous London Pub
http://www.thebestof.co.uk/local/kensington-and-chelsea/community-hub/blog/view/the-cross-keys-chelsea-restaurant-review
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_regalia_and_insignia
http://www.squatter.org.uk/
https://network23.org/squatterslegalnetwork/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/437626852950239/
https://www.facebook.com/events/175704065899943/
https://www.facebook.com/events/418641484852364
https://www.facebook.com/events/363401860409970/
More links related, reference:
http://www.savethecrosskeys.co.uk/?page_id=18 (click "See More" for list)
31 Oct http://londonist.com/2012/10/historic-chelsea-pub-attracts-squatters.php
The squatters insist they’re only there with good intentions, looking after the building until a suitable buyer can be found. They reckon to have fixed the toilets, unblocked the drains and got rid of mice, while trying to maintain a friendly dialogue with neighbours.
04 Nov http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8c5d7a00-2510-11e2-a6aa-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2Bsq7jEbD -
The Empty Homes Agency estimates there are as many as 720,000 empty properties in England.
09 Nov http://www.sbwire.com/press-releases/group-of-squatters-occupies-one-of-oldest-pubs-in-london-178814.htm
On moving in, the squatters had posted a hand-drawn sign decorated with flowers that sought to assure neighbors they were “quiet and respectful” and planned to keep the pub “safe and tidy until it is going to be used again.” A representative from a neighborhood association said he disagreed with the squatters’ action, though he found them “very hospitable.” The neighborhood group, whose “Save Cross Keys” signs can be seen in nearby building windows, said its goal was to see the pub sold to another owner and maintained as a hostelry.
06 Nov http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/constructionandproperty/9658410/Squatters-take-a-commercial-break.html
http://www.lccsa.org.uk/news.asp?ItemID=28142&pcid=2&cid=15&archive=yes
I am in London’s richest borough, in the Cross Keys, a gorgeous old pub that welcomed Whistler, Sargent and Turner as regulars and in more recent years hosted engagement parties for Pippa Middleton’s set.
Most of them came from the old BT headquarters in Holborn – the Hobo Hilton, as it was nicknamed – and this week they have lost a court hearing and will be evicted from the pub. Where will they move to? Another commercial property.
Nov 1 http://blog.zagat.com/2012/11/squatters-occupy-cross-keys-in-chelsea.html
The same owner and property developer, Robert Bourne is also hoping to close nearby The Phene. Sign the 'Save The Phene' petition online now before another Chelsea institution is left to squatters and mice.
29 Oct http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/professional-squatters-take-over-historic-chelsea-pub-the-cross-keys-8230421.html
Residents in Lawrence Street said there had been little disturbance from the squatters at the Cross Keys. Matthew Millett, 30, a property consultant, said: “I would prefer it if they weren’t there but they haven’t caused me any nuisance or made me feel unsafe.
Nov 4 http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/800f343c-2506-11e2-86fb-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2Bsq7jEbD
The Cross Keys squatters gather around a large table for a lunch of roast chicken and vegetables with a wine sauce, all foraged from skips outside shops. Others are draped across the green leather sofas in front of a fire, and still more are out at university or work. “This is the one per cent of squats,” Arthur jokes.
12 Oct http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2012/oct/12/squatting-comercial-premises-social-nuisance-utility?newsfeed=true
group of squatters occupying the empty BT offices in central London's Holborn were ordered to leave those premises by Master Yoxall sitting in the high court.
The other consideration is the UK's huge housing problem. There are 20,000 squatters in the UK, and the Squatters' Action for Secure Homes claim there are 930 000 properties sitting empty (including residential).
29 Oct http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2224891/Historic-300-year-old-Chelsea-pub-taken-squatters-plan-serve-Sunday-lunch.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Historic 300-year-old Chelsea pub taken over by squatters who plan to serve Sunday lunch
But Mr Bourne said it was 'outrageous' that the squatters could move into the pub.
He told the Evening Standard: 'The notice they have put on the door is rubbish and the police have been called out by neighbours some three times already. It has brought crime to the area.
(not really..)
'They are professional squatters who know exactly what they are doing. They will be gone in a week or so, I think they will probably walk out after November 5.'
26 Oct http://www.westendextra.com/news/2012/oct/squatters-evicted-%E2%80%98hobo “We always knew it was temporary,” said activist Johnny Remlap, one of the managers of the “Hilton”, who says it was born out of the Occupy St Paul’s movement.
Before the police shut it down, the political hub played host to several groups, including Greenpeace, Occupy and Anonymous UK.
Activities included a weekly cabaret and “blistering satire”, along with seminars on the issues of “social justice” and “inequality.”
It also provided shelter to homeless people who the activists befriended while squatting.-hilton%E2%80%99
06 Aug http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/9450490/Can-Bob-Marleys-local-pub-be-saved.html
It is just one example of a problem endemic throughout Britain. Since 2008, 4,500 pubs have been lost.
A petition to save the Cross Keys has been signed by more than 4,500 people, and a Twitter appeal is being supported by former customers Piers Morgan and Zac Goldsmith.
26 Sep http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/General-News/Chelsea-pub-the-Cross-Keys-saved-from-closure
An historic pub in Chelsea, west London, has been saved from closure by the Planning Inspectorate after the owner sought to turn the site into housing.
19 Sep http://gyngellblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/09/we-need-not-give-into-the-inevitable-demise-of-the-british-pub-a-successful-campaign-to-save-one-of-.html
So its multi-millionaire owner faces a decision. If he is determined to play dog in the manger and not to reopen it the Council must take further action. After all it was a pub, not a house that he bought in the first place. If he has no appetite for running it as a pub he must sell it to someone who does. The Royal Borough must make it clear to him that they will not tolerate this building – this community hub – standing empty; they will not allow this beautiful 400 year old building to be run down. They must tell him to re-open or else.
Jul 9 http://www.kingsroadrocks.com/2012/07/save-the-cross-keys-pub
It was that kind of place: low-key but full of wonderful surprises and a real local’s haven.Sadly The Ifield has been converted into flats. At first I was shocked to see my favourite pub become a residential property but it seems that developers are keen to turn more of Chelsea’s gems into homes.The latest pubs at risk are The Phene and most urgently, Chelsea’s oldest pub: The Cross Keys.
25 Oct http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/battle-for-the-boozer-hugh-grant-joins-fight-to-save-the-phene-arms-8225851.html
...you can’t move for the cast of Made in Chelsea in the beer garden — creating the £27,000-a-week turnover an independent consultant estimates it generates..
from friends & partners in "crime"
5 Nov http://www.times-series.co.uk/news/10029686.Author_and_TV_personality_Will_Self_backs_library_squatters/
A group of squatters took over the empty building in September and have since reopened their own community library, containing more than 8,000 donated books.
20 Oct http://www.barnet-today.co.uk/news.cfm?id=36580&headline=Writer%20Will%20Self%20to%20visit%20library%20squatters
AUTHOR and journalist Will Self will be coming to the former Friern Barnet Library – which is currently being run by squatters – to sign copies of his new book Umbrella.
Self, who was nominated for the Man Booker prize for the work, lost out on Monday evening to Bring Up The Bodies by Hilary Mantel – her second win in four years.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2211854/Lloyds-Banking-Group-Protesters-control-bank-worth-750k-affluent-suburb.html (nice article)
Squatters who have moved into a high-value property which belongs to a high street banking giant have described it as the 'best squat ever'
28 Nov http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/nov/28/ubs-squatters-eviction-adjournment
A high court judge has warned activists occupying a former bank in central London that a delay in legal proceedings to evict them should not be taken as "any sign of encouragement". .
Representatives of the Circle Community , an umbrella organisation that took over the former UBS offichttp://circlecommunity.org/ es on 18 November, began celebrating in court when Mr Justice Roth told them the possession order, issued by Sun Street Properties Limited, which is owned by the Swiss bank, would not be enforced before 12 December.
Oct 23 http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Neighbourly-squatters-old-bank/story-17156472-detail/story.html
After being served with an eviction notice by Lloyds a group of six men moved out yesterday.
They held up signs proclaiming "Best squat evah!" and "Another banking mess up".
"We also want to make the point that we have kept the house in good order – there is no graffiti or mess and all of the brass door knobs, chandeliers and copper piping are as we found them."
Oct 26 http://www.brixtonblog.com/squatters-group-called-rage-against-tesco-occupying-george-iv-music-bar/7774
Squatters have occupied the George IV pub, Brixton Hill, to try and prevent Tesco from continuing their development of a new Express store in the building.
The group, called Rage Against Tesco (RAT), entered the ground floor of the building
For info:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19436265 - Q&A: Squatting laws
07 Nov http://www.out-law.com/en/articles/2012/november/changes-to-squatting-laws-should-be-extended-to-commercial-property-expert-says/
One of the most high profile recent commercial property squatting cases involves the 300-year-old Cross Keys pub in London's affluent Chelsea area
Oct 17 http://www.harrowobserver.co.uk/west-london-news/2012/10/17/sqautters-guard-library-building-ahead-of-sale-116451-32049278/
The rumours started after people “moved in” to an empty library building in Friern Barnet and started running it as a community book-lending service after the council closed the official library. Members of the Occupy movement who are currently living in the building are fighting eviction proceedings with Barnet Counci
31 Oct http://www.access-legal.co.uk/legal-news/Can-the-new-law-on-evicting-squatters-keep-up-with-the-PACE-4956.htm
When can the police make an arrest?
12 Oct http://www.caterersearch.com/Articles/12/10/2012/346013/Wake-up-call-Anti-squatting-law-applies-to-residential-properties.htm
The new criminal offence doesn't cover commercial properties, but solicitor David Marsden has some advice for safeguarding your premises:
Oct 12 http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/second_westminster_squatter_evicted_under_new_powers_1_1651832
It is the second time CityWest Homes have used the power after a squatter voluntarily left a property on September 7, after being warned he faced arrest.The council believes it was the first authority to use a new squatting law, which came into force on September 1, giving police the power to evict squatters without a court ruling.
11 Nov http://www.thestar.co.uk/lifestyle/property-news/stephanie-robinson-answers-your-rental-questions-1-5107713
have heard new anti-squatting laws have been introduced. How do they affect my rights?
Oct 30 http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=334eba6c-8a82-420f-9a7c-5cc1c714f330
But there is real concern that the criminalising of squatting in residential premises will drive squatters to commercial premises, requiring owners to rely on the slow and expensive civil eviction process. The fear is that, particularly in the current economic climate, the numerous empty shops and offices will become prime targets for squatters.One group of squatters has already taken over a large vacant office block in High Holborn. In Kent, a local campaign has been launched to criminalise squatting in commercial premises, following the occupation by squatters of a boarded-up local pub.
17 Oct http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/westmidlands/news/383350-cp-email-watch-out-for-squatters-warns-cobbetts.html?news_section=19011
A large group has already taken over a 40,000 sq ft building in London’s West End, naming it the ‘Hobo Hilton’, with more instances expected to follow.
Sep 1 http://uk.news.yahoo.com/squatters-face-jail-rights-axed-004726212.html
Ministers said the move would shut the door on squatters once and for all and help protect homeowners."For too long, squatters have had the justice system on the run and have caused homeowners untold misery in eviction, repair and clean-up costs," Justice minister Crispin Blunt said. Housing minister Grant Shapps added: "No longer will there be so-called 'squatters' rights'.
History
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000068899&story_title=How-little-known-squatters-inspired-gallant-Mau-Mau-to-fight-colonialists
In protest the squatters withdrew their labour and in 1946 widespread strikes erupted as workers in more than 400 settler farms rejected the tenancy contracts.
Nov 4 http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2b3038ce-2675-11e2-9295-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2Bsq7jEbD
“It’s a really well-run community organisation. And it gives something unique to the local area,” said Charlotte Ballard, who has lived in Leytonstone for the past year. “The residents are very welcoming, and I haven’t seen any evidence of violence, or antisocial behaviour.
The 491 Gallery in Leytonstone, previously a derelict factory and storage space, has regularly hosted exhibitions, film screenings, gigs, and life drawing and exercise classes, which local people can attend for free.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/richard-madeley-my-shock-as-i-witnessed-the-squalid-1390236
Richard Madeley has just made a documentary on Britain’s squatters and is still plainly horrified when he talks about the plight of one group he met
Media and other links
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19433404
http://www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/multimedia/news/2012/10/30/squatters-move-into-one-of-chelsea-s-oldest-pubs-82029-32130640/#9
http://www.occuworld.org/news/94338.
http://vimeo.com/50827355
https://vimeo.com/51549328
http://bambuser.com/v/3073777 19min
http://londonist.com/2012/10/londonist-behind-the-lens-marc-fairhurst.php/_dsc0751
http://www.blottr.com/breaking-news/hobo-hilton-police-and-bailiffs-evict-acitivist-occupied-building-london
oct 23 http://occupynewsnetwork.co.uk/hobo-hilton-heir-apparant-to-st-pauls-evicted-on-oct-19th/
19 oct http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2012/10/501475.html?c=on
27 oct http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2012/10/501902.html
“Don’t know the face?” she challenged aggressively.
“From what?” I said as I staggered in towards the dimly-lit reception desk where a group of dishevelled youths lolled in different attitudes watching a computer screen. I told them about my plans for a possible theatrical production and a showing of my collages in the building. A big guy called Dan said it sounded what they were looking for, and it just so happened that a flash art exhibition was being planned for the following weekend
http://undercurrentsvideo.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/hobo-hilton-being-evicted-now.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fairhurst_photos/8094385886/
http://en.squat.net/2012/09/30/london-hobo-hilton/
http://www.demotix.com/news/1484395/hobo-hilton-opens-its-doors-central-london#media-1484208
http://evictionresistance.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/a-trip-to-newly-opened-hobo-hilton.html
http://phoenixrainbow23.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/a-trip-to-newly-opened-hobo-hilton.html
http://occupylondon.org.uk/locations/hobo-hilton
Blog from squatter
http://izzybody.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/squatting-at-hobo-hilton-occupy-and.html
http://izzybody.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/the-cross-keys-squat-in-chelsea.html
http://www.whosjack.org/squatters-in-the-cross-keys-pub/
What do you think about the Squatters? Entitled and doing a good job or feel they are entitled and should go rent a flat like everyone else?
http://fjlathome2.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/another-one-and-more.html
Oh! Look at that Pelican on the wall of the Cross Keys pub there. That's a Stuart Freemason symbol, rarely displayed in England.
Evidently the favourite Chelsea drinking haunt of the 'Stuart Masons' of the 'rebel cell'.
John Singer Sergant was ostensibly a part of a 'Rebel Cell' that often gathered at Whistler's studios. ( Gone into in this post here.) Therefore in all probability, Walter Sickert and Edgar Degas drank at the Cross Keys and the Phene too, the Cross Keys in particular. And of course Oscar Wilde was there, and, presumably, the other 'Stuart Masons', many of whom were artists and era aristocrats with Jacobinism prominently figuring in their ancestry.
http://thylacosmilus.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/well-why-dont-you-buy-it-then.html
You mean you’re stealing someone else’s property and expect to be treated like Robin Hood because you’re ‘giving back to the community’?
http://andrewlainton.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/public-inquiry-as-pub-turning-over-27k-a-week-proposed-as-20-million-home/
This time, Bourne has upped the ante. Instead of merely appealing against the council’s decision, he asked for a public inquiry, a move considered highly unusual and incredibly expensive.Timothy Comyn, the barrister representing Bourne, dismissed the protesters’ claims that the pub still had strong ties to the community
http://fromthehornetsnest.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/save-cross-keys-pub-chelseas-oldest.html
It would appear that an in-house planning officer will be pitting her wits against a formidable and powerful team being fielded by the developer. We know she is good, but it will be a tough call.
Doubtless Bourne and co have retained top planning 'silks' to get their way. In other words, our council is going in front of the Inspector with it's hands tied behind it's back
http://blog.zagat.com/2012/11/squatters-occupy-cross-keys-in-chelsea.html
According to the Londonist the squatters insist they have good intentions and are looking after the property until a suitable buyer can be found. (They have apparently fixed the toilet and got rid of mice.)
http://www.josephinemcdermott.com/?p=519 - Latest BBC Feature: Squatters take over one of London’s oldest pubs
http://www.chinchinjobs.com/news/article/3518 - Squatters Take Over Famous London Pub
http://www.thebestof.co.uk/local/kensington-and-chelsea/community-hub/blog/view/the-cross-keys-chelsea-restaurant-review
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_regalia_and_insignia
http://www.squatter.org.uk/
https://network23.org/squatterslegalnetwork/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/437626852950239/
https://www.facebook.com/events/175704065899943/
https://www.facebook.com/events/418641484852364
https://www.facebook.com/events/363401860409970/
http://www.savethecrosskeys.co.uk/?page_id=18
11 November 2012 06:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
More a bit from:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20129580
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/9450490/Can-Bob-Marleys-local-pub-be-saved.html
but... what happens behind a doors.. is always more mmmm.. .. :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20129580
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/9450490/Can-Bob-Marleys-local-pub-be-saved.html
but... what happens behind a doors.. is always more mmmm.. .. :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20129580
10 November 2012 18:34
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
aga need teised?
6 November 2012 12:22
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
kuid yeah, igavus on kurjast.. seega hoidu selle eest,
vast tosilugu :)
vast tosilugu :)
28 October 2012 23:41
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
(OR special list "keerutjad" - kuhu lisad koik ontkatid kes ... ja siis limiteeri or suuna seda kontakt listi kuidas ise soovid)
28 October 2012 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
vali teised fb sobrad :p
28 October 2012 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
To quit the sleep is better
lets not murder part of us.. alright
lets not murder part of us.. alright
28 October 2012 23:34
Margus Meigo commented on Romāns Žilovs's post.
Wish there would be some,
R2, Klassika Radio and Raadio 7 / Pere Raadio - might play time by time something u looking for but pure india radio... can only reccomend Winamp and other web stations here
R2, Klassika Radio and Raadio 7 / Pere Raadio - might play time by time something u looking for but pure india radio... can only reccomend Winamp and other web stations here
24 October 2012 21:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
true, true
24 October 2012 20:57
Margus Meigo commented on Tobias Anand Schneider's post.
Got just few times ago back to fb, have been in UK/EU
How is Estonia?
How is Estonia?
22 October 2012 19:29
Margus Meigo commented on Tobias Anand Schneider's link.
Our best is most we can do :)
22 October 2012 19:26
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Will do that
22 October 2012 18:36
Margus Meigo commented on Marisa Moore's post.
my brother who easily handles hard style and so on music.. told out of blue that Aphex is intentionally clearly not-good music, in the sense of dark forces, wonder what he saw...
my self here, look at is skillful portal/portage of other side of the good withe out being one in core.. but now, cant seem to listen them same way without being alert
and it seems so, there is something strange going on in some songs besides artistic value .. hmm, anyone got that extra extra strange feeling with some of the videos/songs as well?
my self here, look at is skillful portal/portage of other side of the good withe out being one in core.. but now, cant seem to listen them same way without being alert
and it seems so, there is something strange going on in some songs besides artistic value .. hmm, anyone got that extra extra strange feeling with some of the videos/songs as well?
20 July 2012 10:07
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
yhis is really nice link bdw, thansk . )
20 July 2012 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
U just made up this wikipedia page just for that, didnt ya ? :p
20 July 2012 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
well, they still have faith/beliefs/superstitions that their lack of it benefits one some how, or makes one even better
well, just making it up a bit now as have not go in to to many people to deep about that jet
well, just making it up a bit now as have not go in to to many people to deep about that jet
20 July 2012 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ur good at estonian, so will post this here as well: http://www.novaator.ee/ET/biotehnoloogia/tulevikutransistor_on_valmistatud_verest_ja_limast_/
should we smile ? Well, kind of
should we smile ? Well, kind of
http://www.novaator.ee/ET/biotehnoloogia/tulevikutransistor_on_valmistatud_verest_ja_limast_/
20 July 2012 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
ma sellele küll ei panustaks, et me seas inimesed aint kõnnivad keda tänaval näeme, st kihla selle peale ei veaks..
20 July 2012 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
alles nüüd, või alles nüüd lastakse neid meie sekka ?
20 July 2012 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on Marco Ciancio's video.
So, did we become or what.. ? :p
Greets everyone, keep spirit shining !
Greets everyone, keep spirit shining !
20 July 2012 01:21
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
Is there thing like bad Faith besides lack of one ?
20 July 2012 01:11
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
full cereals in hot milk heated with home redcurrants, strawberries, withe bread, mango yoghurt, aronia berry jam ... served with estonian:p 20-30% cold sour cream and yogurt, on sides butter bread with fresh green onions
(know, the last part seems for some as strange as semolina porridge with blackpread, butter and pickled spice Baltic herring, but have to experience to know it:)
simple as that and tastes well good, preparation time: 10-15 minutes, (including trip to yard..), cost: less then 2 dollars for 2 ..so its like fast food basically ... actually this is the kind of fast foods one here prepares to spread around the world in ways as my inspiration - Mac-Donald does .. unless ˇtheyˇ do it themselves first in ways one sees this .. then will use plan C++
(know, the last part seems for some as strange as semolina porridge with blackpread, butter and pickled spice Baltic herring, but have to experience to know it:)
simple as that and tastes well good, preparation time: 10-15 minutes, (including trip to yard..), cost: less then 2 dollars for 2 ..so its like fast food basically ... actually this is the kind of fast foods one here prepares to spread around the world in ways as my inspiration - Mac-Donald does .. unless ˇtheyˇ do it themselves first in ways one sees this .. then will use plan C++
20 July 2012 01:09
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
... its like hoping that this im cooking now.. will be good.. and hey, most likely it will be great, but at least, one shal hope to have good outcome
wanna recipe ? :p
wanna recipe ? :p
19 July 2012 23:56
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
well, it was kind of more religious hope, ya know what im talking about u religious person u
19 July 2012 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
at least
19 July 2012 23:24
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
why these guys have to wear a tye, lets put end to that, its silly, seriouslly
19 July 2012 23:10
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
and hey.. who is this guy, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YHcr7gMMD8 .. and why he is writing these cool books ... fishy ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YHcr7gMMD8
19 July 2012 23:06
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
(: he is one of the reasons one here still have hope for americas, means, u stil heave real people there, wearing suits..
usually i will cross off all ppl from my like list who seriously wearing suits and well, doing that.. but he... is something special, + this ufo thing.. :)
usually i will cross off all ppl from my like list who seriously wearing suits and well, doing that.. but he... is something special, + this ufo thing.. :)
19 July 2012 23:01
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
they was perhaps one of the first to turn me back in to techno for a while, well after 2 unilimted ofcourse :p
remeber...kind of socked the pasific people with their tunes, thought it was pretty good coiche to play in a store, some diddnt
love the kitty part.. : )
remeber...kind of socked the pasific people with their tunes, thought it was pretty good coiche to play in a store, some diddnt
love the kitty part.. : )
19 July 2012 15:56
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
but ell me about him a bit, not kowing him jet : )
19 July 2012 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
But about elliot.. talking about fnord and sht " died in Los Angeles, California, from two stab wounds to the chest. The autopsy evidence was inconclusive as to whether the wounds were self-inflicted" - did they have any evidence he was practisoner of seppuku or somthing ? How one is stabing himself to the chest .. 2 times?
Perhaps one had skills like Garry webb who took suecide with 2 head shoots,
skillful guys indeed
Perhaps one had skills like Garry webb who took suecide with 2 head shoots,
skillful guys indeed
19 July 2012 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
Upper, right corner - ˇˇDon't Go Downˇˇ
Well.. i will :p
Well.. i will :p
19 July 2012 15:14
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
2 go
19 July 2012 14:51
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
mmmLoving
19 July 2012 14:45
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
Heey... whats the fnord up right there telling to not go down?
..do they know something we don't ?
..do they know something we don't ?
19 July 2012 14:44
Margus Meigo commented on Satyasankar Pati's post.
In a way, it is, a god there :)
19 July 2012 11:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
and less
19 July 2012 09:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FGMv-sJymQ @ 15:42 .. + something more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FGMv-sJymQ
19 July 2012 09:14
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
"The cats in Ray Charles' band told my dad that, on a regular basis, the pilot of Ray's plane would call Ray up to the cockpit on the intercom and let him fly the plane. The other dudes in the band really didn't like it, for obvious reasons." haha
19 July 2012 09:00
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPdvhbnXfoE or does it do ya :)'
/some nice related videos as well/
/some nice related videos as well/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPdvhbnXfoE
19 July 2012 08:44
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
WaY like it : )
18 July 2012 22:43
Margus Meigo commented on Satyasankar Pati's post.
well, just msg me here, to mailbox.. and will try to see whats going on,
18 July 2012 21:54
Margus Meigo commented on Satyasankar Pati's post.
Let me know, if there is no feedback coming in near days : )
18 July 2012 21:52
Margus Meigo commented on Sunny Oshaguna Tola's post.
but we shall be nice to anyone, right on
18 July 2012 18:51
Margus Meigo commented on Sunny Oshaguna Tola's post.
hate is kind of like cancer is it not ?
18 July 2012 18:50
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
jup, thinked about it as well
page show some red activity yesterday
page show some red activity yesterday
18 July 2012 00:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(:
17 July 2012 21:36
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
can make so good sourcream souse for u u will be moaning and liscking it from all ower
17 July 2012 21:30
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
well, did not put apples in there this time.. but they are good there
17 July 2012 21:30
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
estonian boiled fried potatoes with sourcream awesame tasty tippin souce with green from garden
17 July 2012 21:27
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
- bdw, one of my lovely mate told me that all this.. sht is coming up in her feed.. that its not good for people., we should go undercover... but heyy.... i have to see this thing eeeevry time, with posts about... well. about not likable data
so lets keep it up.. for while more
so lets keep it up.. for while more
17 July 2012 21:18
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
(the potatoes that brother just fried)
17 July 2012 21:17
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
smelling good
17 July 2012 21:16
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Im no tecnician.. well, tecnicall i am under Commonwealth Law of Pasific but anyways, with help from this kind of helpful corp http://www.dage.com/catalog/catalog_emf/emf_frequency_synthesizers_l_band.htm and some DJs... could we hook up some wires and these awesame soobwoovers there.. and lets get these airs cracking as Psalm 77:18
http://www.mygen.com/users/ufo/Black_Noise_Bomb.html <--- this is the link to click, and click on from there ;)
http://www.mygen.com/users/ufo/Black_Noise_Bomb.html <--- this is the link to click, and click on from there ;)
http://www.dage.com/catalog/catalog_emf/emf_frequency_synthesizers_l_band.htm
17 July 2012 21:13
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
i have seen shit before, should i still take look at this anyways ?
17 July 2012 21:08
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
like seriously :D
17 July 2012 21:07
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
ur like almoust speaking tongues '
17 July 2012 21:03
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
/me pusses ur pelli button with tangue.... gous ... all around it... down and around... getting all wett around and ding like elliot does http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UODX_pYpVxk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UODX_pYpVxk
17 July 2012 21:01
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
pusshh the button... pushhh... the buttton.... u know u like... to push the button...mm
17 July 2012 20:59
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
http://www.webworksllc.com/I_Like_You.cfm
http://www.webworksllc.com/I_Like_You.cfm
17 July 2012 20:57
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
where from u pull these out, u magicianwitchwizardeene u
17 July 2012 20:48
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
this MC TK Haroona should battle that with modern doctors, they will be ooowned, got nnnnthing on T.K PHdbices
17 July 2012 20:46
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
but sooner or later.. :)
17 July 2012 20:41
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux8FkoZfVfc just cracks me up, in good way, everythime.. but hey.. u grazy cick bring this song to my mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux8FkoZfVfc
17 July 2012 20:41
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
jup, hes da man
17 July 2012 20:38
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
and hey.. do not miss out the 100% success rate abortion add, 2 pic back
17 July 2012 20:33
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1022533520336&set=a.1030866008643.2005393.1135161043&type=3&theater
17 July 2012 20:33
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
also adds like that: drought
17 July 2012 20:32
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
()way less bugs)
17 July 2012 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
widows*
17 July 2012 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
im bdw available for Practical Sensitivity Trainings for Windows and Teens
17 July 2012 20:28
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
let it out
its like fart... no good to keep it in...
its like fart... no good to keep it in...
17 July 2012 20:28
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
no need
17 July 2012 20:27
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
or eat
17 July 2012 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
:D
17 July 2012 20:24
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
or eat
17 July 2012 20:22
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
ofcourse, there is sthis bit issue of worry about food and that one will not freeze in winter etc.. but besides, pretty good : )
and jes... continues drought of bob.. specially peeps around me.. some coinsidental thing.. most people who i see do not smke at all.. strange planet one is on..
and jes... continues drought of bob.. specially peeps around me.. some coinsidental thing.. most people who i see do not smke at all.. strange planet one is on..
17 July 2012 20:22
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
well, we in kind of same boat.. except i live pretty good...
17 July 2012 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
like for real ?
17 July 2012 20:19
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
crap
17 July 2012 20:18
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
... well, no worryes, im not so harsh on it as Chicks is :P
17 July 2012 20:17
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
are u working in marketing as well?
17 July 2012 20:16
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
well, in my good days always am... but if one would add some weed also to this.. well.. that would be magic cool
17 July 2012 20:14
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
neeh, dont blive it, there is some cover up going on, will find it out what it is and then will demand some answers from her,
...where was she berried again ?
...where was she berried again ?
17 July 2012 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
well, left alco.. but hey, if one will give me one carona with lime in hot summer day.. will go for it perhaps
well, unless im high or somthing
well, unless im high or somthing
17 July 2012 20:11
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
saw the Carona add in there... hey.. was that good beer or what... in here we sale only the expensive water downed 4.5% one.. not the original... is original in sale... in us, the 5% one or as well the export ?
17 July 2012 19:58
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
looks good for 92,
..is that ur last shell ? U all look same to me :D
..is that ur last shell ? U all look same to me :D
17 July 2012 19:56
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
well.. we got to get these gasses out some how from the stomach of the mother beast.. one getts all uncomfortable and moody ... ya can see the sings all over, soon she will fart all over the place
this kind of reminds me a joke one old man told me, (no, i was not sitting on ones lap)
anyways.. the guy.. in bus, ... sits next to the lady... and hey.. lets one rip... and yawns by looking outside the window by telling "ooh.. well.. sounds like thunder .."
.. and hey.. keeps it up like 2-3 times.. "..sounds like it really starts to rain..."
finally lady puts book away and looks outside the window and said meditatively ".. well.. if it keeps it up... then soon starts to rain shit"
this kind of reminds me a joke one old man told me, (no, i was not sitting on ones lap)
anyways.. the guy.. in bus, ... sits next to the lady... and hey.. lets one rip... and yawns by looking outside the window by telling "ooh.. well.. sounds like thunder .."
.. and hey.. keeps it up like 2-3 times.. "..sounds like it really starts to rain..."
finally lady puts book away and looks outside the window and said meditatively ".. well.. if it keeps it up... then soon starts to rain shit"
17 July 2012 19:55
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
..but whats the contexts`?
17 July 2012 19:45
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
MessianicPeaver sound neat 2 me
17 July 2012 19:44
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
arent the ystill now ? :p
17 July 2012 19:43
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
to give this, extra robotic feeling to the product that was a bit not to obvious for someone... loved the comment there:
"This is exactly the kind of thing why the terrorisers hate us.."
- hey but all this, isint that all fitting neatly to the topic.. what is the topic ? ...aah, cares me not, for now
how u doing, sexy being u `?
"This is exactly the kind of thing why the terrorisers hate us.."
- hey but all this, isint that all fitting neatly to the topic.. what is the topic ? ...aah, cares me not, for now
how u doing, sexy being u `?
17 July 2012 19:42
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
Google should totally hire this/these guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwrel&v=8e6yNC_g_mU&NR=1 for the demo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e6yNC_g_mU
17 July 2012 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
We are heading in to this direction anyway .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c6W4CCU9M4 isint that neat.. but then we at least look cool (ot like failed half baked smiling robot) while searching directions in liberally with gps.. n
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c6W4CCU9M4
17 July 2012 19:35
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
what a bummer.. no help with dub step.. ahh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1IuuTS4Ayw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1IuuTS4Ayw
17 July 2012 19:29
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
(: and ya make me smile Laurie
17 July 2012 19:20
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
Laurie , alright it is,as have felt often times to be fixed at the boundaries that by far do not reach the potential that can be, all in and out side the possibles
17 July 2012 10:48
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
well,
soo.. devil/reptilian - or whatever kind, had or had not sexual magic ritual performed with virgin .. he got power, powers and got free - nothing special there.. he wife gots murdered so the child could not be born... manson is in prison for trying revolution with acid and getting involved remotely and in to the heat between nature and prison system .. but what did i miss? (in many was)
(or honest man, and micheal jackson kind of case + money..)
kind of sleepy.. and tired.. and tring to figure out what was in this doc that it had to be so long.. is it really just my sleepiness ?
Pleae, someone spell it out of me, hes, this and related importance
soo.. devil/reptilian - or whatever kind, had or had not sexual magic ritual performed with virgin .. he got power, powers and got free - nothing special there.. he wife gots murdered so the child could not be born... manson is in prison for trying revolution with acid and getting involved remotely and in to the heat between nature and prison system .. but what did i miss? (in many was)
(or honest man, and micheal jackson kind of case + money..)
kind of sleepy.. and tired.. and tring to figure out what was in this doc that it had to be so long.. is it really just my sleepiness ?
Pleae, someone spell it out of me, hes, this and related importance
17 July 2012 04:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
dont troll, its pretty needy video actually. series if one fallows the text before and after that and sees the contexts reasons
17 July 2012 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
tell me about it, as im no reader for now u knwo :)
17 July 2012 03:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
" The child is not, however, encouraged to believe that charity is expected only of the wealthy; it is a virtue to be cultivated by the young, practiced by all. Here are some of the titles of reading material in the Second, Third and Fourth Readers: "The Greedy Girl"; "The Kind Little Girl"; "The Honest Boy and the Thief"; "The Lord's Prayer"; "The Effects of Rashness"; "On Speaking the Truth"; "Consequences of Bad Spelling"; "Happy Consequences of American Independence"; and "Decisive Integrity." "
17 July 2012 03:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
So that in the nature of man we find three principal causes of quarrel. First, competition; secondly, diffidence; thirdly, glory. 6
The first maketh man invade for gain; the second, for safety; and the third, for reputation. The first use violence, to make themselves masters of other men’s persons, wives, children, and cattle; the second, to defend them; the third, for trifles, as a word, a smile, a different opinion, and any other sign of undervalue, either direct in their persons or by reflection in their kindred, their friends, their nation, their profession, or their name. 7
Hereby it is manifest that, during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war, and such a war as is of every man against every man. For ‘war’ consisteth not in battle only or the act of fighting, but in a tract of time wherein the will to contend by battle is sufficiently known, and therefore the notion of ‘time’ is to be considered in the nature of war, as it is in the nature of weather. For as the nature of foul weather lieth not in a shower or two of rain but in an inclination thereto of many days together, so the nature of war consisteth not in actual fighting but in the known disposition thereto during all the time there is no assurance to the contrary. All other time is ‘peace.’ 8
Whatsoever therefore is consequent to a time or war where every man is enemy to every man, the same is consequent to the time wherein men live without other security than what their own strength and their own invention shall furnish them withal. In such condition there is no place for industry, because the fruit thereof is uncertain, and consequently no culture of the earth, no navigation nor use of the commodities that may be imported by sea, no commodious building, no instruments of moving and removing such things as require much force, no knowledge of the face of the earth; no account of time, no arts, no letters, no society, and, which is worst of all, continual fear and danger of violent death, and the life of man solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short. 9
It may seem strange to some man that has not well weighed these things that Nature should thus dissociate and render men apt to invade and destroy one another; and he may therefore, not trusting to this inference made from the passions, desire perhaps to have the same confirmed by experience. Let him therefore consider with himself, when taking a journey, he arms himself and seeks to go well accompanied; when going to sleep, he locks his doors; when even in his house, he locks his chests; and this when he knows there be laws and public officers armed to revenge all injuries shall be done him; what opinion he has of his fellow-subjects when he rides armed; of his fellow-citizens, when he locks his doors; and of his children and servants, when he locks his chests. Does he not there as much accuse mankind by his actions as I do by my words? But neither of us accuse man’s nature in it. The desires and other passions of man are in themselves no sin. No more are the actions that proceed from those passions, till they know a law that forbids them; which, till laws be made, they cannot know, nor can any law be made till they have agreed upon the person that shall make it. 10
It may peradventure be thought there was never such a time nor condition of war as this; and I believe it was never generally so over all the world, but there are many places where they live so now. For the savage people in many places of America, except the government of small families the concord whereof dependeth on natural lust, have no government at all, and live at this day in that brutish manner as I said before. Howsoever, it may be perceived what manner of life there would be where there were no common power to fear, by the manner of life which men that have formerly lived under a peaceful government use to degenerate into, in a civil war. 11
But, though there had never been any time wherein particular men were in a condition of war one against another, yet in all times kings and persons of sovereign authority, because of their independency, are in continual jealousies and in the state and posture of gladiators, having their weapons pointing, and their eyes fixed on one another, that is, their forts, garrisons, and guns, upon the frontiers of their kingdoms, and continual spies upon their neighbours: which is a posture of war. But because they uphold thereby the industry of their subjects, there does not follow from it that misery which accompanies the liberty of particular men. 12
To this war of every man against every man this also is consequent, that nothing can be unjust. The notions of right and wrong, justice and injustice, have there no place. Where there is no common power, there is no law; where no law, no injustice. Force and fraud are in war the two cardinal virtues. Justice and injustice are none of the faculties neither of the body nor mind. If they were, they might be in a man that were alone in the world, as well as his senses and passions. They are qualities that relate to men in society, not in solitude. It is consequent also to the same condition that there be no propriety, no dominion, no ‘mine’ and ‘thine’ distinct, but only that to be every man’s that he can get, and for so long as he can keep it. And thus much for the ill condition which man by mere nature is actually placed in, though with a possibility to come out of it, consisting partly in the passions, partly in his reason. 13
The passions that incline men to peace are fear of death, desire of such things as are necessary to commodious living, and a hope by their industry to obtain them. And reason suggesteth convenient articles of peace, upon which men may be drawn to agreement. These articles are they which otherwise are called the Laws of Nature, whereof I shall speak more particularly in the two following chapters.
Thomas Hobbes (1588–1679). Of Man, Being the First Part of Leviathan.
http://www.bartleby.com/34/5/13.html (blinking add there ... click only when need..)
The first maketh man invade for gain; the second, for safety; and the third, for reputation. The first use violence, to make themselves masters of other men’s persons, wives, children, and cattle; the second, to defend them; the third, for trifles, as a word, a smile, a different opinion, and any other sign of undervalue, either direct in their persons or by reflection in their kindred, their friends, their nation, their profession, or their name. 7
Hereby it is manifest that, during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war, and such a war as is of every man against every man. For ‘war’ consisteth not in battle only or the act of fighting, but in a tract of time wherein the will to contend by battle is sufficiently known, and therefore the notion of ‘time’ is to be considered in the nature of war, as it is in the nature of weather. For as the nature of foul weather lieth not in a shower or two of rain but in an inclination thereto of many days together, so the nature of war consisteth not in actual fighting but in the known disposition thereto during all the time there is no assurance to the contrary. All other time is ‘peace.’ 8
Whatsoever therefore is consequent to a time or war where every man is enemy to every man, the same is consequent to the time wherein men live without other security than what their own strength and their own invention shall furnish them withal. In such condition there is no place for industry, because the fruit thereof is uncertain, and consequently no culture of the earth, no navigation nor use of the commodities that may be imported by sea, no commodious building, no instruments of moving and removing such things as require much force, no knowledge of the face of the earth; no account of time, no arts, no letters, no society, and, which is worst of all, continual fear and danger of violent death, and the life of man solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short. 9
It may seem strange to some man that has not well weighed these things that Nature should thus dissociate and render men apt to invade and destroy one another; and he may therefore, not trusting to this inference made from the passions, desire perhaps to have the same confirmed by experience. Let him therefore consider with himself, when taking a journey, he arms himself and seeks to go well accompanied; when going to sleep, he locks his doors; when even in his house, he locks his chests; and this when he knows there be laws and public officers armed to revenge all injuries shall be done him; what opinion he has of his fellow-subjects when he rides armed; of his fellow-citizens, when he locks his doors; and of his children and servants, when he locks his chests. Does he not there as much accuse mankind by his actions as I do by my words? But neither of us accuse man’s nature in it. The desires and other passions of man are in themselves no sin. No more are the actions that proceed from those passions, till they know a law that forbids them; which, till laws be made, they cannot know, nor can any law be made till they have agreed upon the person that shall make it. 10
It may peradventure be thought there was never such a time nor condition of war as this; and I believe it was never generally so over all the world, but there are many places where they live so now. For the savage people in many places of America, except the government of small families the concord whereof dependeth on natural lust, have no government at all, and live at this day in that brutish manner as I said before. Howsoever, it may be perceived what manner of life there would be where there were no common power to fear, by the manner of life which men that have formerly lived under a peaceful government use to degenerate into, in a civil war. 11
But, though there had never been any time wherein particular men were in a condition of war one against another, yet in all times kings and persons of sovereign authority, because of their independency, are in continual jealousies and in the state and posture of gladiators, having their weapons pointing, and their eyes fixed on one another, that is, their forts, garrisons, and guns, upon the frontiers of their kingdoms, and continual spies upon their neighbours: which is a posture of war. But because they uphold thereby the industry of their subjects, there does not follow from it that misery which accompanies the liberty of particular men. 12
To this war of every man against every man this also is consequent, that nothing can be unjust. The notions of right and wrong, justice and injustice, have there no place. Where there is no common power, there is no law; where no law, no injustice. Force and fraud are in war the two cardinal virtues. Justice and injustice are none of the faculties neither of the body nor mind. If they were, they might be in a man that were alone in the world, as well as his senses and passions. They are qualities that relate to men in society, not in solitude. It is consequent also to the same condition that there be no propriety, no dominion, no ‘mine’ and ‘thine’ distinct, but only that to be every man’s that he can get, and for so long as he can keep it. And thus much for the ill condition which man by mere nature is actually placed in, though with a possibility to come out of it, consisting partly in the passions, partly in his reason. 13
The passions that incline men to peace are fear of death, desire of such things as are necessary to commodious living, and a hope by their industry to obtain them. And reason suggesteth convenient articles of peace, upon which men may be drawn to agreement. These articles are they which otherwise are called the Laws of Nature, whereof I shall speak more particularly in the two following chapters.
Thomas Hobbes (1588–1679). Of Man, Being the First Part of Leviathan.
http://www.bartleby.com/34/5/13.html (blinking add there ... click only when need..)
http://www.bartleby.com/34/5/13.html
16 July 2012 19:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Of the Natural Condition of Mankind as Concerning Their Felicity and Misery
NATURE hath made men so equal in the faculties of the body and mind, as that, though there be found one man sometimes manifestly stronger in body or of quicker mind than another, yet when all is reckoned together the difference between man and man is not so considerable as that one man can thereupon claim to himself any benefit to which another may not pretend as well as he. For, as to the strength of body, the weakest has strength enough to kill the strongest, either by secret machination or by confederacy with others that are in the same danger with himself. 1
And, as to the faculties of the mind, setting aside the arts grounded upon words and especially that skill of proceeding upon general and infallible rules called science, which very few have and but in few things, as being not a native faculty born with us, nor attained, as prudence, while we look after somewhat else, I find yet a greater equality amongst men than that of strength. For prudence is but experience, which equal time equally bestows on all men in those things they equally apply themselves unto. That which may perhaps make such equality incredible is but a vain conceit of one’s own wisdom, which almost all men think they have in a greater degree than the vulgar, that is, than all men but themselves, and a few others whom by fame or for concurring with themselves they approve. For such is the nature of men that, howsoever they may acknowledge many others to be more witty or more eloquent or more learned, yet they will hardly believe there be many so wise as themselves, for they see their own wit at hand and other men’s at a distance. But this proveth rather that men are in that point equal than unequal. For there is not ordinarily a greater sign of the equal distribution of anything than that every man is contented with his share. 2
From this equality of ability ariseth equality of hope in the attaining of our ends. And therefore, if any two men desire the same thing which nevertheless they cannot both enjoy, they become enemies; and, in the way to their end, which is principally their own conservation and sometimes their delectation only, endeavour to destroy or subdue one another. And from hence it comes to pass that, where an invader hath no more to fear than another man’s single power, if one plant, sow, build, or possess, a convenient seat others may probably be expected to come prepared with forces united to dispossess and deprive him not only of the fruit of his labor but also of his life or liberty. And the invader again is in the like danger of another. 3
And from this diffidence of one another there is no way for any man to secure himself so reasonable as anticipation, that is, by force or wiles to master the persons of all men he can so long till he see no other power great enough to endanger him; and this is no more than his own conservation requireth and is generally allowed. Also, because there be some that, taking pleasure in contemplating their own power in the acts of conquest, which they pursue farther than their security requires, if others, that otherwise would be glad to be at ease within the modest bounds, should not be invasion increase their power, they would not be able long time, by standing only on their defence, to subsist. And by consequence, such augmentation of dominion over men being necessary to a man’s conservation, it ought to be allowed him. 4
Again, men have no pleasure, but on the contrary a great deal of grief, in keeping company where there is no power able to overawe them all. For every man looketh that his companion should value him at the same rate he sets upon himself, and, upon all signs of contempt or undervaluing, naturally endeavours as far as he dares (which amongst them that have no common power to keep them in quiet, is far enough to make them destroy each other) to extort a greater value from his contemners by damage, and from others by the example.
NATURE hath made men so equal in the faculties of the body and mind, as that, though there be found one man sometimes manifestly stronger in body or of quicker mind than another, yet when all is reckoned together the difference between man and man is not so considerable as that one man can thereupon claim to himself any benefit to which another may not pretend as well as he. For, as to the strength of body, the weakest has strength enough to kill the strongest, either by secret machination or by confederacy with others that are in the same danger with himself. 1
And, as to the faculties of the mind, setting aside the arts grounded upon words and especially that skill of proceeding upon general and infallible rules called science, which very few have and but in few things, as being not a native faculty born with us, nor attained, as prudence, while we look after somewhat else, I find yet a greater equality amongst men than that of strength. For prudence is but experience, which equal time equally bestows on all men in those things they equally apply themselves unto. That which may perhaps make such equality incredible is but a vain conceit of one’s own wisdom, which almost all men think they have in a greater degree than the vulgar, that is, than all men but themselves, and a few others whom by fame or for concurring with themselves they approve. For such is the nature of men that, howsoever they may acknowledge many others to be more witty or more eloquent or more learned, yet they will hardly believe there be many so wise as themselves, for they see their own wit at hand and other men’s at a distance. But this proveth rather that men are in that point equal than unequal. For there is not ordinarily a greater sign of the equal distribution of anything than that every man is contented with his share. 2
From this equality of ability ariseth equality of hope in the attaining of our ends. And therefore, if any two men desire the same thing which nevertheless they cannot both enjoy, they become enemies; and, in the way to their end, which is principally their own conservation and sometimes their delectation only, endeavour to destroy or subdue one another. And from hence it comes to pass that, where an invader hath no more to fear than another man’s single power, if one plant, sow, build, or possess, a convenient seat others may probably be expected to come prepared with forces united to dispossess and deprive him not only of the fruit of his labor but also of his life or liberty. And the invader again is in the like danger of another. 3
And from this diffidence of one another there is no way for any man to secure himself so reasonable as anticipation, that is, by force or wiles to master the persons of all men he can so long till he see no other power great enough to endanger him; and this is no more than his own conservation requireth and is generally allowed. Also, because there be some that, taking pleasure in contemplating their own power in the acts of conquest, which they pursue farther than their security requires, if others, that otherwise would be glad to be at ease within the modest bounds, should not be invasion increase their power, they would not be able long time, by standing only on their defence, to subsist. And by consequence, such augmentation of dominion over men being necessary to a man’s conservation, it ought to be allowed him. 4
Again, men have no pleasure, but on the contrary a great deal of grief, in keeping company where there is no power able to overawe them all. For every man looketh that his companion should value him at the same rate he sets upon himself, and, upon all signs of contempt or undervaluing, naturally endeavours as far as he dares (which amongst them that have no common power to keep them in quiet, is far enough to make them destroy each other) to extort a greater value from his contemners by damage, and from others by the example.
16 July 2012 19:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.facebook.com/Seiklejad.Org
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Seiklejate Vennaskond
16 July 2012 17:34
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
Its like something to mock hippies :p ?
Cant read it all but.. zooom in enhanche... zooom in enhance... zoom in.. used to care - will take pill for that now, to care
?
Why not, if it works, if it
Cant read it all but.. zooom in enhanche... zooom in enhance... zoom in.. used to care - will take pill for that now, to care
?
Why not, if it works, if it
16 July 2012 01:03
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
have always been loving parliaments and ments in general,
pretty black with withe one ya guys have :)
pretty black with withe one ya guys have :)
16 July 2012 00:54
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
a moral kind or something along these lines?
14 July 2012 20:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
You like this.
For sure
For sure
14 July 2012 19:59
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
What kind of - killer ˇˇ is she?
14 July 2012 19:35
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
( https://www.facebook.com/masonic.art.3 - Blow in to her face and she'll fallow you anywhere, poster)
14 July 2012 17:41
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
(okey, perhps not http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Estonian_parliament_building.jpg .... but still cool , prhaps most pinkest gov building in world :p
)
)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Estonian_parliament_building.jpg
14 July 2012 16:25
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
bdw it looks like our gov
building, except ours is way more pink
building, except ours is way more pink
14 July 2012 16:23
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Awwww... would love it
unless its in the way ow Rise of Planet Apes... then we will be screwed after they access all this acid in laboratory
It would be kind of Limitless,
heeey... is this cop just smirked at me ?
(K) to you too, love ya!
unless its in the way ow Rise of Planet Apes... then we will be screwed after they access all this acid in laboratory
It would be kind of Limitless,
heeey... is this cop just smirked at me ?
(K) to you too, love ya!
14 July 2012 16:18
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's photo.
Masonic art? or just something from former F1? :p
Women, on power, by smoking?
But smoking what... emm.. can someone fill me in, is it about how power enslaves or how to enslave power
by women, by means of smoking... hey, to narrow right ?
Women, on power, by smoking?
But smoking what... emm.. can someone fill me in, is it about how power enslaves or how to enslave power
by women, by means of smoking... hey, to narrow right ?
14 July 2012 16:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
/for future reading/
And what has all this to do with the value of the speed limit? A lot, as this equivalence between electric and“magnetic” force can be crowned only after acknowledging that the speed limit is /.../
(equation 6,below reported), so really the speed of light in vacuum c, not another one. If you suppose the existence of anobject faster than c, you will also deny all the electromagnetic world, that is the whole world, in general. Butall this is not so clear to some eminent scientists.In other words, if nature really puts in our hands an object which is faster than c, then we could use it as aspecial tool to carry out measurements on space and time on electric moving charges, so denying theexistence of the Lorentz contraction (which is supported by the limit speed c, indeed, and which would bedenied by that object) and the subsistence of the magnetic force, which is real, although it’s electric, in it’sreal essence.Moreover, forget the recent news on the Higgs boson, finally found: first of all, the scientific environmentfrom which that news comes from is the same one, again. Furthermore, this kind of announcements have gota behaviour in common: they all diverge, instead of converging to a point of common deep knowledge of theUniverse. In fact, such a boson just apparently brings an answer to us (on what it would do), but, at the sametime, it also brings another half a dozen of new questions (on what it really is and on how it would do whatthey say it does).By summing it up a bit, Higgs boson would give a mass to other particles, through the friction among themand the Higgs field!It’s like if there is a guy, whose name is Anthony (and I don’t know him) and after researches andinvestigations I’m told that Anthony has been introduced to Jennifer by Josephine, through Michael. And so,now, I still don’t know Anthony, but not only: from now on, I do not know also Jennifer, Josephine andMichael…In fact, the echo of the news on the Higgs’ boson has not yet faded out and there is already who has(re)started to hunt the superhiggs, in environments with 43 dimensions!Let’s make short a long story: instead of all those implausibilities, I propose my more plausible Universe,shown, for instance, in the file at the link in point 4, in the bibliography below reported.
ON THE ILLUSORINESS OF THE MAGNETIC FORCE
Magnetic force is simply a Coulomb’s electric force(!).Concerning this, let’s examine the following situation, where we have a wire, of course made of positivenuclei and electrons, and also a cathode ray (of electrons) flowing parallel to the wire:
/data and calcualtion, figures, in pdf/
Thank you for your attention.Leonardo RUBINOleonrubino@yahoo.it
Various links:http://it.catholic.net/notizie/520-i-neutrini-e-einstein-piergiorgio-odifreddi-contro-margherita-hack http://notizie.tiscali.it/articoli/interviste/11/09/zichichi.html http://odifreddi.blogautore.repubblica.it/2011/09/22/alla-velocita-del-neutrino/?ref=HROBA-1 (+ a comment of mine; one of the very last)http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/life-unbounded/2011/09/30/what-next-for-neutrinos/ (+ a comment of mine)http://www.focus.it/scienza/superata-la-velocita-della-luce-201109222011_C12.aspx (+ a comment of mine)http://www.fisicamente.net/portale/modules/news2/article.php?storyid=1889 (+ a comment of mine)http://www.galileonet.it/articles/4e80848a72b7ab3b2800001e (+ a comment of mine)http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110922/full/news.2011.554.html (+ a comment of mine)
http://www.enzopennetta.it/wordpress/2012/04/boncinelli-einstein-si-puo-mettere-in-discussione-darwin-no/
(+ a comment of mine quoted by others)etc…
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And what has all this to do with the value of the speed limit? A lot, as this equivalence between electric and“magnetic” force can be crowned only after acknowledging that the speed limit is /.../
(equation 6,below reported), so really the speed of light in vacuum c, not another one. If you suppose the existence of anobject faster than c, you will also deny all the electromagnetic world, that is the whole world, in general. Butall this is not so clear to some eminent scientists.In other words, if nature really puts in our hands an object which is faster than c, then we could use it as aspecial tool to carry out measurements on space and time on electric moving charges, so denying theexistence of the Lorentz contraction (which is supported by the limit speed c, indeed, and which would bedenied by that object) and the subsistence of the magnetic force, which is real, although it’s electric, in it’sreal essence.Moreover, forget the recent news on the Higgs boson, finally found: first of all, the scientific environmentfrom which that news comes from is the same one, again. Furthermore, this kind of announcements have gota behaviour in common: they all diverge, instead of converging to a point of common deep knowledge of theUniverse. In fact, such a boson just apparently brings an answer to us (on what it would do), but, at the sametime, it also brings another half a dozen of new questions (on what it really is and on how it would do whatthey say it does).By summing it up a bit, Higgs boson would give a mass to other particles, through the friction among themand the Higgs field!It’s like if there is a guy, whose name is Anthony (and I don’t know him) and after researches andinvestigations I’m told that Anthony has been introduced to Jennifer by Josephine, through Michael. And so,now, I still don’t know Anthony, but not only: from now on, I do not know also Jennifer, Josephine andMichael…In fact, the echo of the news on the Higgs’ boson has not yet faded out and there is already who has(re)started to hunt the superhiggs, in environments with 43 dimensions!Let’s make short a long story: instead of all those implausibilities, I propose my more plausible Universe,shown, for instance, in the file at the link in point 4, in the bibliography below reported.
ON THE ILLUSORINESS OF THE MAGNETIC FORCE
Magnetic force is simply a Coulomb’s electric force(!).Concerning this, let’s examine the following situation, where we have a wire, of course made of positivenuclei and electrons, and also a cathode ray (of electrons) flowing parallel to the wire:
/data and calcualtion, figures, in pdf/
Thank you for your attention.Leonardo RUBINOleonrubino@yahoo.it
Various links:http://it.catholic.net/notizie/520-i-neutrini-e-einstein-piergiorgio-odifreddi-contro-margherita-hack http://notizie.tiscali.it/articoli/interviste/11/09/zichichi.html http://odifreddi.blogautore.repubblica.it/2011/09/22/alla-velocita-del-neutrino/?ref=HROBA-1 (+ a comment of mine; one of the very last)http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/life-unbounded/2011/09/30/what-next-for-neutrinos/ (+ a comment of mine)http://www.focus.it/scienza/superata-la-velocita-della-luce-201109222011_C12.aspx (+ a comment of mine)http://www.fisicamente.net/portale/modules/news2/article.php?storyid=1889 (+ a comment of mine)http://www.galileonet.it/articles/4e80848a72b7ab3b2800001e (+ a comment of mine)http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110922/full/news.2011.554.html (+ a comment of mine)
http://www.enzopennetta.it/wordpress/2012/04/boncinelli-einstein-si-puo-mettere-in-discussione-darwin-no/
(+ a comment of mine quoted by others)etc…
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http://it.catholic.net/notizie/520-i-neutrini-e-einstein-piergiorgio-odifreddi-contro-margherita-hack
11 July 2012 13:08
Margus Meigo commented on Antti Räsänen's photo.
and when what needed, seems to be lost for loving, care sincerely
puhtast südamest
and we have on earth, ways to clean the heart
puhtast südamest
and we have on earth, ways to clean the heart
9 July 2012 17:42
Margus Meigo commented on Antti Räsänen's photo.
has one of us told you so, who brings the fingers to type things like that?
And if ever confusion about life should come, Just love, unconditionally, do not make others tests to see if they have in them what you need.
And if ever confusion about life should come, Just love, unconditionally, do not make others tests to see if they have in them what you need.
9 July 2012 17:39
Margus Meigo commented on Antti Räsänen's photo.
Are you talking to me or god?
9 July 2012 17:29
Margus Meigo commented on Antti Räsänen's photo.
Do not forget to give money to really poor people later, or its cheating of other peoples good will :)
9 July 2012 16:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Unelaul Toomas Altnurme https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.480462890279.273949.644385279&type=3 le :)
9 July 2012 04:06
Margus Meigo commented on Melvin Bond's link.
but then again, i might be all partly wrong :D
9 July 2012 03:22
Margus Meigo commented on Arnold Schwarzenegger's photo.
Thought fist its a joke, but hey.. pretty big piece u have there, would love to see yt video where ur shooting it arnold :)
9 July 2012 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on Melvin Bond's link.
but i do really agree with the point and so oon... but there is so much fnord and crap around.. not so positively thinking that this can give good outcomes to top of it..
well, my 2 cents
well, my 2 cents
9 July 2012 03:20
Margus Meigo commented on Melvin Bond's link.
Morelikelly, the people see it on ur feed, and will go and tell it people on the street, that ,... "heey.. did u know.." .. and other one tells to the group later, 10 minutes later "hey du u know what my trusted friend just found out..." .. and so oon and oon..
and who ever will start to complain that it can not be,. if they are mari supporter then the blamers wil tell "well.. this what we expect u to say, as ur addicted or brainwashed by drug-dealers, of-course they do not want u to know that its true, and PS: We do not wanna talk about it any more, get lost"
and then in the end, some 14 years old will get hes ass severely beaten by caring father who hear it from hes wife, and now they have at least one thing they agree on again - weed is bad, so they need to just beat it out from the kid.. what else u can do.... still worth iit compared to the damage it might make..
sad but this is how it works... as anyone who knows its joke, - it will not add anything to them they know it.. and few who kick on it and finds out its a joke.. sees it as evil thing by pot smokers to joke on matters like that, ... = weeb is ...
u know? :)
and who ever will start to complain that it can not be,. if they are mari supporter then the blamers wil tell "well.. this what we expect u to say, as ur addicted or brainwashed by drug-dealers, of-course they do not want u to know that its true, and PS: We do not wanna talk about it any more, get lost"
and then in the end, some 14 years old will get hes ass severely beaten by caring father who hear it from hes wife, and now they have at least one thing they agree on again - weed is bad, so they need to just beat it out from the kid.. what else u can do.... still worth iit compared to the damage it might make..
sad but this is how it works... as anyone who knows its joke, - it will not add anything to them they know it.. and few who kick on it and finds out its a joke.. sees it as evil thing by pot smokers to joke on matters like that, ... = weeb is ...
u know? :)
9 July 2012 03:18
Margus Meigo commented on Melvin Bond's link.
Not good really to share it as people for real will start to believe, its so, many people actually .>)
9 July 2012 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
:D
8 July 2012 23:24
Margus Meigo commented on Antti Räsänen's post.
maybe any, maybe :)
bdw, a bread in hindi sounds kind like short fast version of "naughty" :p
bdw, a bread in hindi sounds kind like short fast version of "naughty" :p
8 July 2012 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's link.
well, actually still, not approving the drop out part.. even thought he had good explanation for that.. it still sounds wrong, to drop out.. why in a world would anyone wanna do that, like seriously :D
8 July 2012 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on Oomas Alt's photo.
rahulolev :p
8 July 2012 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on Exposing The Truth's post.
I hear raw milk from warmers directly, is illegal to sale, posesss in US , is that true ? :p
8 July 2012 22:32
Margus Meigo commented on Susan Jewett Rogers's photo.
Greets from Estland as well :)
8 July 2012 22:30
Margus Meigo commented on Gail R. Ducharme's post.
Well, can send them to me as well, will not mind :)
8 July 2012 22:25
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's link.
(: np, just here to help :)
8 July 2012 17:23
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's link.
this is only way do do it, is to enjoy it my fellow earthling :)
8 July 2012 17:22
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's link.
(bdw its used to get in to connection with reality, but il guess... people can use it other way also, if they are determinated to do so..)
8 July 2012 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's link.
well, if you say so,
but you do it anyway, but thats another topic :)
but you do it anyway, but thats another topic :)
8 July 2012 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on Oomas Alt's link.
mul muidu väga hea pisike õhuke tera oli... suht nukker et katki tegin kohamusest :8
8 July 2012 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on Oomas Alt's link.
Nu tee sõbraks, kui sul fb list "võõrt fb sõbrad kes jagavad eesti vanarahva maa elu ja häid sügavaid mõtteid ning kes patriootlikuid kohustusi samas täidab" siis lisa ta sinna listy ;9
8 July 2012 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on Oomas Alt's link.
... its gone soon...
inimesed peaksid aktiivsemalt tegutsema hakkama, kasvatustega. Kuigi, ega viimane päris hernes ei ole, et mõne kuu pärast saaki juba saab korjata, ning tänapäeva inimene ju thab kõike kiirelt..
oh mind, old timerit from another time :p
inimesed peaksid aktiivsemalt tegutsema hakkama, kasvatustega. Kuigi, ega viimane päris hernes ei ole, et mõne kuu pärast saaki juba saab korjata, ning tänapäeva inimene ju thab kõike kiirelt..
oh mind, old timerit from another time :p
8 July 2012 17:12
Margus Meigo commented on Oomas Alt's link.
Loodus on supper seal, ja performance ja setup ka, soovitan väga soojalt! :)
8 July 2012 17:10
Margus Meigo commented on Oomas Alt's link.
Mul sõber teadis rääkida miskist kasutatud metalli kauplusest vms, kus 3 euro eest pidi saadaval olema, uuri lähemalt: Erik Miido lt :)
8 July 2012 17:09
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's link.
jup, u need acid as well my friend :p
8 July 2012 17:07
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's link.
to the acid comment..
always thought it helps better to relate, what planet one is on.. or at least what to do, on whatever one is
perhaps needing more acid to wipe off this thoughts..
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but yeah, what is the main arias he is supporting (openly vs supposedly), or what is ones purpose in your opinion?
always thought it helps better to relate, what planet one is on.. or at least what to do, on whatever one is
perhaps needing more acid to wipe off this thoughts..
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but yeah, what is the main arias he is supporting (openly vs supposedly), or what is ones purpose in your opinion?
8 July 2012 12:31
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's link.
always have found strange that among hippie people, there is so big support group for him, well.. not that its bad indeed.. but just strange, as they should know better
8 July 2012 07:22
Margus Meigo commented on Oomas Alt's link.
...samas, ega mulle pikk rohi ka meeldib, yldse... inimesed on kärmed asju maha lõikama ja jne..
8 July 2012 05:40
Margus Meigo commented on Oomas Alt's link.
lõin oma oma katki kahjuks hooletusest... kuid eks proovib uue muretseda :)
8 July 2012 05:39
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
Will talk to him next time directly, time was not right jet.. then will also ask about hes suposed support for brain chips that thelp to meditate better.. and ask... heeeey.. did u have hever heard about The Great Acid everyeone is talking about in last half of century or has the word not reaced u as ur to hig up there..
but yea, now when he is off from politics, for sure he can be even more open, open to new ideas as well
but yea, now when he is off from politics, for sure he can be even more open, open to new ideas as well
8 July 2012 05:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
tean, info läbisegi ja palju ja nõmedalt.. kuid wikis oli veel hullem olukord... suht..
Siin tast päris hea kirjeldus: http://www.badassoftheweek.com/tesla.html
". Nikola Tesla once lit 200 lightbulbs from a power source 26 miles away, and he did it in 1899 with a machine he built from spare parts in the middle of the god-forsaken desert. To this day, nobody can really figure out how the hell he pulled that shit off, because two-thirds of the schematics only existed in the darkest recesses of Tesla's all-powerful brain."
"One time, while he was working on magnetic resonance, he discovered the resonant frequency of the Earth and caused an earthquake so powerful that it almost obliterated the 5th Avenue New York building that housed his Frankenstein Castle of a laboratory. "
"has been cited as a potential cause of the mysterious 1908 Tunguska Event – a ten-megaton blast that detonated in the wastelands above central Russia that completely obliterated and deforested everything unlucky enough to be located within a several hundred mile radius. While nothing has ever successfully proven Tesla's involvement in the ass-destroyingly huge explosion, it's pretty awesome that this guy could potentially have detonated a weapon 1,000 times more powerful than the nuclear bomb that destroyed Hiroshima, and have done it back before they'd even invented the submachine gun"
(venemakohal tõepoolest oli yks ennekuulamtu pauk ja radiotsiooni ei olnud ja kõik oli kypsenud seal.. )
"During his adventures blinding half of the world with science, Nikola Tesla harnessed the power of Niagara Falls into the first hydroelectric power plant, constructed a bath designed to cleanse the human body of germs using nothing but electricity, and created a 130-foot long bolt of lightning from one of his massive coils (a feat which to this day remains the world record for man-made lightning), but perhaps his most badass invention was his face-melting, tank-destroying, super-secret Atomic Death Ray"
haha, loe seda viimast lauset:D
" Nikola Tesla was one of those super-genius badasses whose intellect placed him dangerously on the precipice between "great scientific mind" and "utter madness". He held 700 patents at the time of his death, made groundbreaking discoveries in the fields of physics, robotics, steam turbine engineering, and magnetism, and once melted one of his assistants' hands by overloading it with X-rays - which isn't really scientific, but is still pretty cool. "
"And honestly, if there were one man on this planet who was ever capable of single-handedly destroying the entire planet through his insane scientific discoveries, it was Tesla. That alone should qualify him as a pretty righteous badass"
kuid yeah, tsekka yts ka vidoesi, seal võib isegi midagi head vahest olla, muidugi on ka tegelasi kes ise juurde fanataseerivad... kuid osad fanataseerivad õiget moodi ka, yhendades õiged punktid a ja c leides ise puuduva loogilise lyli
vot, selline tegelane, kindlasti tuleb kasuks silmad yle lasta... ja siis .. noh, natuke võib ka aimu anda kui raske võib olla ajast ees asjadega tegeleda.. mille põhi Lõpp eesmärk ei ole raha, vaid mida rahaga teha, sest raha... raha saab ka ära kaotada... kuid sellest ma tahaks iga hinna eest loobuda praegu... sest tundub, et praeguses systeemis, raha veel on väga kasulik, ka kahjulik ja põhi kontrolli element... kuid see ei loe.. ka muu potensiaal ontal... ja tõepoolest, ei ole liiga FarOut mõelda, et raha saab ära kaotada, eriti kui need pundis kes selle kontrolli, suunamise ja ... ja infot haldavad.. mis see on :)
Siin tast päris hea kirjeldus: http://www.badassoftheweek.com/tesla.html
". Nikola Tesla once lit 200 lightbulbs from a power source 26 miles away, and he did it in 1899 with a machine he built from spare parts in the middle of the god-forsaken desert. To this day, nobody can really figure out how the hell he pulled that shit off, because two-thirds of the schematics only existed in the darkest recesses of Tesla's all-powerful brain."
"One time, while he was working on magnetic resonance, he discovered the resonant frequency of the Earth and caused an earthquake so powerful that it almost obliterated the 5th Avenue New York building that housed his Frankenstein Castle of a laboratory. "
"has been cited as a potential cause of the mysterious 1908 Tunguska Event – a ten-megaton blast that detonated in the wastelands above central Russia that completely obliterated and deforested everything unlucky enough to be located within a several hundred mile radius. While nothing has ever successfully proven Tesla's involvement in the ass-destroyingly huge explosion, it's pretty awesome that this guy could potentially have detonated a weapon 1,000 times more powerful than the nuclear bomb that destroyed Hiroshima, and have done it back before they'd even invented the submachine gun"
(venemakohal tõepoolest oli yks ennekuulamtu pauk ja radiotsiooni ei olnud ja kõik oli kypsenud seal.. )
"During his adventures blinding half of the world with science, Nikola Tesla harnessed the power of Niagara Falls into the first hydroelectric power plant, constructed a bath designed to cleanse the human body of germs using nothing but electricity, and created a 130-foot long bolt of lightning from one of his massive coils (a feat which to this day remains the world record for man-made lightning), but perhaps his most badass invention was his face-melting, tank-destroying, super-secret Atomic Death Ray"
haha, loe seda viimast lauset:D
" Nikola Tesla was one of those super-genius badasses whose intellect placed him dangerously on the precipice between "great scientific mind" and "utter madness". He held 700 patents at the time of his death, made groundbreaking discoveries in the fields of physics, robotics, steam turbine engineering, and magnetism, and once melted one of his assistants' hands by overloading it with X-rays - which isn't really scientific, but is still pretty cool. "
"And honestly, if there were one man on this planet who was ever capable of single-handedly destroying the entire planet through his insane scientific discoveries, it was Tesla. That alone should qualify him as a pretty righteous badass"
kuid yeah, tsekka yts ka vidoesi, seal võib isegi midagi head vahest olla, muidugi on ka tegelasi kes ise juurde fanataseerivad... kuid osad fanataseerivad õiget moodi ka, yhendades õiged punktid a ja c leides ise puuduva loogilise lyli
vot, selline tegelane, kindlasti tuleb kasuks silmad yle lasta... ja siis .. noh, natuke võib ka aimu anda kui raske võib olla ajast ees asjadega tegeleda.. mille põhi Lõpp eesmärk ei ole raha, vaid mida rahaga teha, sest raha... raha saab ka ära kaotada... kuid sellest ma tahaks iga hinna eest loobuda praegu... sest tundub, et praeguses systeemis, raha veel on väga kasulik, ka kahjulik ja põhi kontrolli element... kuid see ei loe.. ka muu potensiaal ontal... ja tõepoolest, ei ole liiga FarOut mõelda, et raha saab ära kaotada, eriti kui need pundis kes selle kontrolli, suunamise ja ... ja infot haldavad.. mis see on :)
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/tesla.html
7 July 2012 19:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Natukene tema wikipedia põhjal teada tundud tegemistest:
traadita vool, raadio kontroll, juhtimis pult, laser, hõljukid mis õhust voolu võtavad, sõja tehnoloogia, lisaks meeldis talle veel teooria inim tõu paremaks aretamise suhtes. Ta veel see kes praeguse voolu mida kasutame AC tõi meieni selliselt ja vist ka algse raadio/faxi tehnoloogia, noh umbes 100 aastat tagasi..
tegeles veel x reidega ja rääkis maa välisest elust, ja paljust muust huvitavast, kohe hommik peale ta surma kõik ta paberid olid kadunud toast, kokku temaga seotud paberied oli autokasti täis kui õigesti aru sain, well.. kah mul mõõtyhik.. :)
Siis veel tegeles 8Hz (see ikka päris päris madal herts..) ja erinevate tava ja maa kihtide data saatmist või ammutamist.. noh, yhesõnaga päris hull tegelane... kuid koolis eriti palju ei räägita, võrreldes edisoniga, ainstainiga kelle kuulsa teooria ta kõvahäälega välja naeris, öeldes, et see limiteerib meie arengut basically.
Edison lasi ta üle ka päris karmilt.. kuid loe ise lähemalt..
"Tesla demonstrated wireless energy transfer to power electronic devices in 1891, and aspired to intercontinental wireless transmission of industrial power in his unfinished Wardenclyffe Tower project" (see lõhuti maha tal)
"He typically did not make drawings by hand, instead just conceiving all ideas with his mind. Tesla also often had flashbacks to events that had happened previously in his life; these began during his childhood" - noh.. see tuttav värk :p
He also developed a device that, according to some, was a telephone repeater or amplifier, but according to others could have been the first loudspeaker
Also in the late 1880s, Tesla and Thomas Edison became adversaries in part because of Edison's promotion of direct current (DC) for electric power distribution over the more efficient alternating current advocated by Tesla and Westinghous
Päris karm:
In 1885 Tesla claimed he could redesign Edison's inefficient motor and generators, making an improvement in both service and economy. According to Tesla, Edison remarked "There's fifty thousand dollars in it for you - if you can do it". (arvas et andis võimatu ülesande talle..)
This has been noted as an odd statement from an Edison whose company was stingy with pay and did not have that sort of cash on hand. After months of work when Tesla finished the task and inquired about payment Edison claimed he was only joking replying, "Tesla, you don't understand our American humor". Edison offered a $10 a week raise over Tesla's US$18 per week salary, but Tesla refused it and immediately resigned
In 1886, Tesla formed his own company, Tesla Electric Light & Manufacturing. The initial financial investors disagreed with Tesla on his plan for an alternating current motor and eventually fired him, forcing him to work as a ditch digger for $2 per day
he constructed a brushless alternating current induction motor
In the same year, he developed the principles of his Tesla coil
" It is debated whether Tesla was the first to discover the electron. On 26 August 1891, Tesla published his article "Reply to J.J. Thomson's note," in "Electrical Engineer, New York." In this article, Tesla claimed that his experiments proved the existence of small charged particles, while J.J. Thomson denied this. Five years later, Thomson proved the existence of electrons by another experiment "
Tesla served, from 1892 to 1894, as the vice president of the American Institute of Electrical Engineers, the forerunner (along with the Institute of Radio Engineers) of the modern-day IEEE (se ieee asi on nagu a ja o kes yke maailma paneb standardid paika mis elekter ja pistik ja jubin milleks ja kuidas kutsutakse, lisaks palju muud)
He generated AC of one million volts using a conical Tesla coil and investigated the skin effect in conductors, designed tuned circuits, invented a machine for inducing sleep, invented a cordless gas discharge lamp, and transmitted electromagnetic energy without wires, building the first radio transmitter
traadita vool, raadio kontroll, juhtimis pult, laser, hõljukid mis õhust voolu võtavad, sõja tehnoloogia, lisaks meeldis talle veel teooria inim tõu paremaks aretamise suhtes. Ta veel see kes praeguse voolu mida kasutame AC tõi meieni selliselt ja vist ka algse raadio/faxi tehnoloogia, noh umbes 100 aastat tagasi..
tegeles veel x reidega ja rääkis maa välisest elust, ja paljust muust huvitavast, kohe hommik peale ta surma kõik ta paberid olid kadunud toast, kokku temaga seotud paberied oli autokasti täis kui õigesti aru sain, well.. kah mul mõõtyhik.. :)
Siis veel tegeles 8Hz (see ikka päris päris madal herts..) ja erinevate tava ja maa kihtide data saatmist või ammutamist.. noh, yhesõnaga päris hull tegelane... kuid koolis eriti palju ei räägita, võrreldes edisoniga, ainstainiga kelle kuulsa teooria ta kõvahäälega välja naeris, öeldes, et see limiteerib meie arengut basically.
Edison lasi ta üle ka päris karmilt.. kuid loe ise lähemalt..
"Tesla demonstrated wireless energy transfer to power electronic devices in 1891, and aspired to intercontinental wireless transmission of industrial power in his unfinished Wardenclyffe Tower project" (see lõhuti maha tal)
"He typically did not make drawings by hand, instead just conceiving all ideas with his mind. Tesla also often had flashbacks to events that had happened previously in his life; these began during his childhood" - noh.. see tuttav värk :p
He also developed a device that, according to some, was a telephone repeater or amplifier, but according to others could have been the first loudspeaker
Also in the late 1880s, Tesla and Thomas Edison became adversaries in part because of Edison's promotion of direct current (DC) for electric power distribution over the more efficient alternating current advocated by Tesla and Westinghous
Päris karm:
In 1885 Tesla claimed he could redesign Edison's inefficient motor and generators, making an improvement in both service and economy. According to Tesla, Edison remarked "There's fifty thousand dollars in it for you - if you can do it". (arvas et andis võimatu ülesande talle..)
This has been noted as an odd statement from an Edison whose company was stingy with pay and did not have that sort of cash on hand. After months of work when Tesla finished the task and inquired about payment Edison claimed he was only joking replying, "Tesla, you don't understand our American humor". Edison offered a $10 a week raise over Tesla's US$18 per week salary, but Tesla refused it and immediately resigned
In 1886, Tesla formed his own company, Tesla Electric Light & Manufacturing. The initial financial investors disagreed with Tesla on his plan for an alternating current motor and eventually fired him, forcing him to work as a ditch digger for $2 per day
he constructed a brushless alternating current induction motor
In the same year, he developed the principles of his Tesla coil
" It is debated whether Tesla was the first to discover the electron. On 26 August 1891, Tesla published his article "Reply to J.J. Thomson's note," in "Electrical Engineer, New York." In this article, Tesla claimed that his experiments proved the existence of small charged particles, while J.J. Thomson denied this. Five years later, Thomson proved the existence of electrons by another experiment "
Tesla served, from 1892 to 1894, as the vice president of the American Institute of Electrical Engineers, the forerunner (along with the Institute of Radio Engineers) of the modern-day IEEE (se ieee asi on nagu a ja o kes yke maailma paneb standardid paika mis elekter ja pistik ja jubin milleks ja kuidas kutsutakse, lisaks palju muud)
He generated AC of one million volts using a conical Tesla coil and investigated the skin effect in conductors, designed tuned circuits, invented a machine for inducing sleep, invented a cordless gas discharge lamp, and transmitted electromagnetic energy without wires, building the first radio transmitter
7 July 2012 19:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
See see serblane Tesla kellest rääkisin, uuri selle kohta netist infot..
ta ka muidu suri üksikus holtellitoas võlgades, senditult, , seltsiliseks tuvi kellega ta rääkida sai... noh..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla
Kuid samas tal olevat info mille põhjal peaks saama kogu elu siin maakeral ümber korraldada, või ka hävitada kui vaja... see tehnoloogia nüüd enamuses usa käes ..
Kui kunagi aega lugeda on, siis laske kasvõi naisega silmad üle
Personal elust:
Possessing an eidetic memory, Nikola Tesla was a polyglot, and along with his native tongue he also spoke Czech, English, French, German, Hungarian, Italian, and Latin
Tesla by nature required little sleep, claiming to never sleep more than two hours.On one occasion at his laboratory Tesla worked for a period of 84 hours without sleep or rest
Near the end of his life, Tesla showed signs of encroaching senility, walking to the park everyday to feed the pigeons and even bringing injured ones into his hotel room to nurse them back to health (seda kutsutakse hulluseks bdw meie maailmas)
Tesla, like many of his era, became a proponent of an imposed selective breeding version of eugenics. His opinions stemmed from a belief that humans already interfered with the natural "ruthless workings of nature", rather than conceptions of a "master race" or inherent superiority of one person over another.
Tesla was prone to alienating himself and was generally soft-spoken.
Nevertheless, Tesla could be harsh at times; he openly expressed his disgust for overweight people, once firing a secretary because of her weight. He was quick to criticize others' clothing as well, on several occasions directing a subordinate to go home and change her dress
Tesla believed that war could not be avoided until the cause for its recurrence was removed, but was opposed to wars in general. However, Tesla came to find exceptions in which he thought certain situations and wars were justifiable
Veel naistest ja toitumisest:
In 1926, Tesla commented on the ills of the social subservience of women and the struggle of women toward gender equality, indicated that humanity's future would be run by "Queen Bees". He believed that women would become the dominant sex in the future
In his later years Tesla became a vegetarian, living on only milk, bread, honey, and vegetable juices
Tesla argued that it is wrong to eat uneconomic meat when large numbers of people are starving; he also believed that plant food was "superior to [meat] in regard to both mechanical and mental performance". He also argued that animal slaughter was "wanton and cruel
The morning after Tesla's death, his nephew, Sava Kosanović, hurried to his uncle's room at the Hotel New Yorker. By the time he arrived, Tesla's body had already been removed. Technical papers were missing, as well as a black notebook he knew Tesla kept— a notebook with several hundred pages, some of which were marked "Government." Shortly thereafter Tesla's papers and other property were impounded by the United States' Alien Property Custodian office in Tesla's compound at the Manhattan Warehouse, even though he was a naturalized citizen (kudas kohe järgmisel hommikul teati, et vana mees oma toas ära suri kes inimestega ei suhelnud?)
After the FBI was contacted by the War Department, his papers were declared to be top secret. The personal effects were sequestered on the advice of presidential advisers; J. Edgar Hoover declared the case most secret, because of the nature of Tesla's inventions and patents
Altogether, in Tesla's effects, there were the contents of his safe, two truckloads of papers and apparatuses from his hotel, another 75 packing crates and trunks in a storage facility, and another 80 large storage trunks in another storage facility
Apart from doing pure work on inventing things, Tesla also wrote a number of books and articles for magazines and journals. Among his books are My Inventions: The Autobiography of Nikola Tesla; The Fantastic Inventions of Nikola Tesla, compiled and edited by David Hatcher Childress (be aware that the topics, such as time travel and extraterrestrial intelligence, discussed in the second half of the book are only conspiracy theories...); and The Tesla Papers
Romantic tuvidega ja naised:
He claimed to be have been visited by a specific white pigeon daily, saying, "I have been feeding pigeons, thousands of them for years. But there was one, a beautiful bird, pure white with light grey tips on its wings; that one was different. It was a female. I had only to wish and call her and she would come flying to me. I loved that pigeon as a man loves a women, and she loved me. As long as I had her, there was a purpose to my life.”Tesla recalled a light came from her eyes that was more intense than that produced by his most powerful lamp in his laboratory. Several biographers note that Tesla viewed the death of the pigeon as a "final blow" to himself and his work.Tesla was an animal-lover, often reflecting contentedly about a childhood cat, "The Magnificent Mačak." Tesla never married. He was celibate and claimed that his chastity was very helpful to his scientific abilities.Nonetheless there have been numerous accounts of women vying for Tesla's affection, even some madly in love with him. Tesla, though polite, behaved rather ambivalently to these women in the romantic sense.
ta ka muidu suri üksikus holtellitoas võlgades, senditult, , seltsiliseks tuvi kellega ta rääkida sai... noh..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla
Kuid samas tal olevat info mille põhjal peaks saama kogu elu siin maakeral ümber korraldada, või ka hävitada kui vaja... see tehnoloogia nüüd enamuses usa käes ..
Kui kunagi aega lugeda on, siis laske kasvõi naisega silmad üle
Personal elust:
Possessing an eidetic memory, Nikola Tesla was a polyglot, and along with his native tongue he also spoke Czech, English, French, German, Hungarian, Italian, and Latin
Tesla by nature required little sleep, claiming to never sleep more than two hours.On one occasion at his laboratory Tesla worked for a period of 84 hours without sleep or rest
Near the end of his life, Tesla showed signs of encroaching senility, walking to the park everyday to feed the pigeons and even bringing injured ones into his hotel room to nurse them back to health (seda kutsutakse hulluseks bdw meie maailmas)
Tesla, like many of his era, became a proponent of an imposed selective breeding version of eugenics. His opinions stemmed from a belief that humans already interfered with the natural "ruthless workings of nature", rather than conceptions of a "master race" or inherent superiority of one person over another.
Tesla was prone to alienating himself and was generally soft-spoken.
Nevertheless, Tesla could be harsh at times; he openly expressed his disgust for overweight people, once firing a secretary because of her weight. He was quick to criticize others' clothing as well, on several occasions directing a subordinate to go home and change her dress
Tesla believed that war could not be avoided until the cause for its recurrence was removed, but was opposed to wars in general. However, Tesla came to find exceptions in which he thought certain situations and wars were justifiable
Veel naistest ja toitumisest:
In 1926, Tesla commented on the ills of the social subservience of women and the struggle of women toward gender equality, indicated that humanity's future would be run by "Queen Bees". He believed that women would become the dominant sex in the future
In his later years Tesla became a vegetarian, living on only milk, bread, honey, and vegetable juices
Tesla argued that it is wrong to eat uneconomic meat when large numbers of people are starving; he also believed that plant food was "superior to [meat] in regard to both mechanical and mental performance". He also argued that animal slaughter was "wanton and cruel
The morning after Tesla's death, his nephew, Sava Kosanović, hurried to his uncle's room at the Hotel New Yorker. By the time he arrived, Tesla's body had already been removed. Technical papers were missing, as well as a black notebook he knew Tesla kept— a notebook with several hundred pages, some of which were marked "Government." Shortly thereafter Tesla's papers and other property were impounded by the United States' Alien Property Custodian office in Tesla's compound at the Manhattan Warehouse, even though he was a naturalized citizen (kudas kohe järgmisel hommikul teati, et vana mees oma toas ära suri kes inimestega ei suhelnud?)
After the FBI was contacted by the War Department, his papers were declared to be top secret. The personal effects were sequestered on the advice of presidential advisers; J. Edgar Hoover declared the case most secret, because of the nature of Tesla's inventions and patents
Altogether, in Tesla's effects, there were the contents of his safe, two truckloads of papers and apparatuses from his hotel, another 75 packing crates and trunks in a storage facility, and another 80 large storage trunks in another storage facility
Apart from doing pure work on inventing things, Tesla also wrote a number of books and articles for magazines and journals. Among his books are My Inventions: The Autobiography of Nikola Tesla; The Fantastic Inventions of Nikola Tesla, compiled and edited by David Hatcher Childress (be aware that the topics, such as time travel and extraterrestrial intelligence, discussed in the second half of the book are only conspiracy theories...); and The Tesla Papers
Romantic tuvidega ja naised:
He claimed to be have been visited by a specific white pigeon daily, saying, "I have been feeding pigeons, thousands of them for years. But there was one, a beautiful bird, pure white with light grey tips on its wings; that one was different. It was a female. I had only to wish and call her and she would come flying to me. I loved that pigeon as a man loves a women, and she loved me. As long as I had her, there was a purpose to my life.”Tesla recalled a light came from her eyes that was more intense than that produced by his most powerful lamp in his laboratory. Several biographers note that Tesla viewed the death of the pigeon as a "final blow" to himself and his work.Tesla was an animal-lover, often reflecting contentedly about a childhood cat, "The Magnificent Mačak." Tesla never married. He was celibate and claimed that his chastity was very helpful to his scientific abilities.Nonetheless there have been numerous accounts of women vying for Tesla's affection, even some madly in love with him. Tesla, though polite, behaved rather ambivalently to these women in the romantic sense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla
7 July 2012 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
(: oh me :p
7 July 2012 17:36
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
(i meant, this planet, in whole, is an cosmik instition... as all other thesis for what IT is here, is more scary.. as just looking what is going on around and how calm people are and what they do instead of dealing with the main problems... it kind of... must be so.. and hey.. would not blame gods for wiping it out all again after ark has collected needed people, as who needs... programmed people... programmed.. like this.. that they allow it to keep going and going... standing by.. perhaps writing some angry comments in fb or throwing eggs at some politician (what is kind of same useful) ... but yeah, where is the love)
one other hope is that people who only see love.. and say all else is just in our mind and is do not excist.. that they are on to something, in good way.. but i would not put my cards on to that, as this sounds like something rather that someone who wants control would invent.. or someone who is really sensire..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc
one other hope is that people who only see love.. and say all else is just in our mind and is do not excist.. that they are on to something, in good way.. but i would not put my cards on to that, as this sounds like something rather that someone who wants control would invent.. or someone who is really sensire..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc
7 July 2012 12:55
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
heeeey, when ur in institution then its alright to drive ur crazy, unless it was secual reference :p
but yeah.. they have done some of my friens.. and basically killed the human inside... they started to recover from the "help" by now have heard..
hey,... in a way, should ask, are we in it stil ?
but yeah.. they have done some of my friens.. and basically killed the human inside... they started to recover from the "help" by now have heard..
hey,... in a way, should ask, are we in it stil ?
7 July 2012 12:48
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
but for sure, loved this sidetrack :)
..and most likely, it will turn out as most important step, for what is needed, as always, it is
in this institution called... whatever its called
..and most likely, it will turn out as most important step, for what is needed, as always, it is
in this institution called... whatever its called
7 July 2012 05:43
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
cavalier.. well,
actually.. whatever would i say that would sound true for me, would just rap my self up more in to the net of thuings how it might look, or looks,
ands not about worring so much what others think (or is it) ..but about my own, current mind set how ... aah.. will take to sleep
basically i look most of the things, from the perspective what is wrong, or how can be better, and how to get there, to get there, and how/canitbe to implement it to our current plans, (as long all needed sections are not known, - il call it - don't know this subject jet...) seriously.. can not see lots of point to do anything else.. then to figure out the Perfect plan, for Everything, (and illusion it is, imo, that it can not be done) ...and as its pretty much thought out.. except some details.. and details that pour in every day... almost overloading time by time.. but still.. getting better with every day, and losing lives more, every day as well.. kind of egoistic, but feel personally responsible for All the shit that is happening because one Here is to ... to put it Work what was thought out years ago..
kind of strange... so much, else was planned and nothing what was planed was done.. not even sure is that good or is that lesson to strenghen my mind.. to not let my self sidetracked...
means.. needs to getting more alienated... to get done things that is planned.. or ..is all that needed, ahh.. sleep crzy talk basically now already
actually.. whatever would i say that would sound true for me, would just rap my self up more in to the net of thuings how it might look, or looks,
ands not about worring so much what others think (or is it) ..but about my own, current mind set how ... aah.. will take to sleep
basically i look most of the things, from the perspective what is wrong, or how can be better, and how to get there, to get there, and how/canitbe to implement it to our current plans, (as long all needed sections are not known, - il call it - don't know this subject jet...) seriously.. can not see lots of point to do anything else.. then to figure out the Perfect plan, for Everything, (and illusion it is, imo, that it can not be done) ...and as its pretty much thought out.. except some details.. and details that pour in every day... almost overloading time by time.. but still.. getting better with every day, and losing lives more, every day as well.. kind of egoistic, but feel personally responsible for All the shit that is happening because one Here is to ... to put it Work what was thought out years ago..
kind of strange... so much, else was planned and nothing what was planed was done.. not even sure is that good or is that lesson to strenghen my mind.. to not let my self sidetracked...
means.. needs to getting more alienated... to get done things that is planned.. or ..is all that needed, ahh.. sleep crzy talk basically now already
7 July 2012 05:42
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y319nfbzO-4 acceptable goa as well, for me
and a bit more earthy, a bit more asia time by time (perhaps not that album).. but still, something special http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60arMExCsdg
and perhaps Steve Roach ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoI9sNKbOpk ) would be something delicate enough for acid as well, althought, for some who looks to rock all that might look like elevator music :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXpkV4UEAwk - this here is more the kind of version from Goa that will be my cup of tea.. picks up after 2nd minute
and a bit more earthy, a bit more asia time by time (perhaps not that album).. but still, something special http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60arMExCsdg
and perhaps Steve Roach ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoI9sNKbOpk ) would be something delicate enough for acid as well, althought, for some who looks to rock all that might look like elevator music :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXpkV4UEAwk - this here is more the kind of version from Goa that will be my cup of tea.. picks up after 2nd minute
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y319nfbzO-4
7 July 2012 04:58
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
But then my favcorites , still, related to electro music, is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RszchMVvbs and music that is around it, its kind of outer earth qualty they use for what they do,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5ddAAYasgM (Hydroponic Garden album) - the track from minute 14..mm :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVFscjOsPRA (Interloper album) newer material from them, a bit more fatty.. earthy heavy (in psy ambient world heay - a bit different meaning), still, prefer the World Of Sleepers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RszchMVvbs and music that is around it, its kind of outer earth qualty they use for what they do,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5ddAAYasgM (Hydroponic Garden album) - the track from minute 14..mm :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVFscjOsPRA (Interloper album) newer material from them, a bit more fatty.. earthy heavy (in psy ambient world heay - a bit different meaning), still, prefer the World Of Sleepers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RszchMVvbs
7 July 2012 04:55
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
then went in to goa..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBqmgsU6gGs
well, something like that anywyas
(but seriously.. its pretty special on special settings, this kind, cant explain.. i mean.. the egoless multilevel dancing part that is involved in this scene, is pretty neat)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBqmgsU6gGs
well, something like that anywyas
(but seriously.. its pretty special on special settings, this kind, cant explain.. i mean.. the egoless multilevel dancing part that is involved in this scene, is pretty neat)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBqmgsU6gGs
7 July 2012 04:38
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
my psy scene started from these guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y0JD4dqEIo
would want grandfater like that for urself?:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y0JD4dqEIo
would want grandfater like that for urself?:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y0JD4dqEIo
7 July 2012 04:36
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
heyy.. did not know its theirs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPH-vhpEnaI - i mean, know this tune
- well, have been more in to psy ambient scene
and latelly .. have been away from music at all, to enjoy birds who sing around the house and wind that creeps the threes top of the roof.. , sounds good as well :)
- well, have been more in to psy ambient scene
and latelly .. have been away from music at all, to enjoy birds who sing around the house and wind that creeps the threes top of the roof.. , sounds good as well :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPH-vhpEnaI
7 July 2012 04:29
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
and hey, perhaps acid ppl should pay more attention to building up the brain and soul potential instead breaking it down
instead making it absurd,,, pehaps we should more try with respect to get some delightful insights about ourself, world and from the ones who make all this possible for us
instead making it as different as possible tring to make it as same as possible, to be as Tao as can be, and from there, we can see what we can move around us in to what direction.. otherwise just we run.. without head often... often in to someone.. who will just at best case - will make us sit down, for good
just my 2 cents
newer have got it why some people get all so depressed, insane and ... hey.. perhaps will learn that , (if not, at least the answers, perhaps.. )
instead making it absurd,,, pehaps we should more try with respect to get some delightful insights about ourself, world and from the ones who make all this possible for us
instead making it as different as possible tring to make it as same as possible, to be as Tao as can be, and from there, we can see what we can move around us in to what direction.. otherwise just we run.. without head often... often in to someone.. who will just at best case - will make us sit down, for good
just my 2 cents
newer have got it why some people get all so depressed, insane and ... hey.. perhaps will learn that , (if not, at least the answers, perhaps.. )
7 July 2012 04:21
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A5t5_O8hdA
/ perhaps have surfed, need some re-call /
/ perhaps have surfed, need some re-call /
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A5t5_O8hdA
7 July 2012 03:45
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
haa, had to delete all this comment, just to add
- this sufers thing is pretty much to acid for me to listen in my current setting
and hey, ... perhaps i kind of skipped this section of acid, but who knows, perhaps is needed :)
/lol, kind of made me smile to see they try to get this song : http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858668599/ ..for sure ur comments there might be good:) /
- this sufers thing is pretty much to acid for me to listen in my current setting
and hey, ... perhaps i kind of skipped this section of acid, but who knows, perhaps is needed :)
/lol, kind of made me smile to see they try to get this song : http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858668599/ ..for sure ur comments there might be good:) /
http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858668599/
7 July 2012 03:44
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Something to lissten while you flyng here g8rl :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G4isv_Fylg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G4isv_Fylg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G4isv_Fylg
7 July 2012 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
what kind of song is that, this kind of messed up Laurie, is it not? :p
no wonder u freaked out sometimes some ppl while listening this ....tunes :D
or is it something ur crew is making? Anyway, pretty .. original, must say, in sense of ˇ newer heard before in a way that i can remember, that did ˇ
who do ya manage to stay horny while listening this? UNless ur on something, really specific, then can imagine it to be unimaginable scene of underdimensions explored at deepest
(well, i keep ranting, aren't i)
No harsh feelings about my musical review, will grow to be more sensative / will work on it, kind of :)
no wonder u freaked out sometimes some ppl while listening this ....tunes :D
or is it something ur crew is making? Anyway, pretty .. original, must say, in sense of ˇ newer heard before in a way that i can remember, that did ˇ
who do ya manage to stay horny while listening this? UNless ur on something, really specific, then can imagine it to be unimaginable scene of underdimensions explored at deepest
(well, i keep ranting, aren't i)
No harsh feelings about my musical review, will grow to be more sensative / will work on it, kind of :)
7 July 2012 03:29
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Greeetings to Jimmy Weed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBECisSkAu4
u would newer guess :p
(:care for 3way anyone, who brings the bong?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBECisSkAu4
u would newer guess :p
(:care for 3way anyone, who brings the bong?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBECisSkAu4
6 July 2012 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FEDrU85FLE
(:
(:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FEDrU85FLE
6 July 2012 22:03
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
lol, silly we :D
well, me at least
anyways, back to present now:)
well, me at least
anyways, back to present now:)
6 July 2012 21:53
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
ur like my personal enmglish teacher
except the flirting part
except the flirting part
6 July 2012 21:45
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
its so funny, but have been in many bathrooms, and for real, ppl making them self up front of mirrors there... instead putting more to the action... .. we all look like half sweaty devils anywayz after riding few hours and wondering... do we still have brains left..... ar is it left..
/relatedto the video, boys on bathroom/
/relatedto the video, boys on bathroom/
6 July 2012 21:29
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
next on playlist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_RGaSV0KIg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_RGaSV0KIg
6 July 2012 21:26
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
serioiusly, this is one good, ehehe.. and fallowed to Bloodhoud gang - The Bad Touch...
6 July 2012 21:18
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
hooly s its good!
6 July 2012 21:12
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
/song come to my mind from my last africa trip, well... all was supper lovely actually, just song has some relations/
bdw... off they are.. :)
... hi-story.. kind of thanks myubuntah does not get ziggy with webcam .p
hawya been in to live webpor before, as well? :p
bdw... off they are.. :)
... hi-story.. kind of thanks myubuntah does not get ziggy with webcam .p
hawya been in to live webpor before, as well? :p
6 July 2012 20:52
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=909jT2c0ZNw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=909jT2c0ZNw
6 July 2012 20:52
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
neeh, its just kind of like reverced cowboy, nothing to unknown
6 July 2012 20:49
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
.. hey, the pony returned the "The Sea Horse Position"
will this do it ? :p
will this do it ? :p
6 July 2012 20:48
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
did i mention
again
again
6 July 2012 20:46
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
/...not that im mastered any of the arias we talkiing about here, so... perhaps we, as ppl need to experience all sides of spectrium
to become whole, and to choose paths, and do the right thong
again and again and again... and again..
and again
to become whole, and to choose paths, and do the right thong
again and again and again... and again..
and again
6 July 2012 20:46
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
well, i was in to public extreme situations situations when was yonger.. if it relates to Road
6 July 2012 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
yar not holding back, at all :)
im more the kind of "lets try do get in to tantra thing and join the molecules and stuff" kind of guy
im more the kind of "lets try do get in to tantra thing and join the molecules and stuff" kind of guy
6 July 2012 20:41
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
arrgh... have to use google / "Did you mean" searchagain
6 July 2012 20:35
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
hoe that looks a like..., im just an boor farm boy (also) u know ? : )
6 July 2012 20:34
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
I find you really attractive, including the vocabulary for what dictionary and "Did you mean..." search is needed (K)
6 July 2012 20:25
Margus Meigo commented on Geekologie's link.
Weed is generally good, even if its from sea
5 July 2012 19:32
Margus Meigo commented on Aldo Roomere's link.
õhtuleht v?
5 July 2012 14:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"While the Islamists see only one right path, the Sufis see a house on the top of a hill, and understand that there are many different paths to reach the house," says my host, Al-haj Warrag, a liberal Sudanese journalist whose white djellabah sweeps behind him as we cross the dusty graveyard, approaching the mosque. "There is nothing fanatical about them."
"Nobody here will ask you your religion, or where you come from," he adds. "They just accept you."
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Sufi orders or brotherhoods came to be called turuq, although it was not until the 12th and 13th centuries that they became stable enough to survive the death of their founder. This was achieved by the founder personally nominating a successor, and thus there are some today which can trace their lineage back to that time.
This, however, was uncommon. Whereas mainstream Islam tended to be rather scholastic in nature, Sufism focused on personal peity, which was easier for many Muslims to accept and live by. Although the Sufis tended to integrate beliefs and practices which came from outside Islam, those beliefs and practices were integral in the cultures to which Islam had been transplanted.
This made Sufism more appealing to indigenous people converting to Islam. Thus, Sufis were effectively Muslim missionaries, presenting to new peoples a more interesting face and belief system. They also tended to act as defenders of the lower classes against corrupt rulers.
Shi'ite beliefs had a lot of influence on Sufism, but mostly in the early days when Shi'a was more a school of thought than a distinct sect with its own ideology. One important idea which was transmitted from from the Shi'a to Sufism is that of the Mahdi, a messianic figure which will come to save Muslims from corrupt worldly rulers.
For the Shi'a, the Mahdi is the Twelfth Imam, who is currently hidden. For the Sufi, however, the Mahdi won't necessarily be a descendant of Ali, but will instead be a divinely guided leader who will appear at the End of Time to restore justice and truth over the forces of the indfidels. Although this has never been a formal doctrine in Sunni Islam, it has gained a foothold in the imaginations of most Muslims thanks to the Sufis.
Mainstream Islam has regarded Sufism with some suspicion because of the extremism in beliefs which mysticism is prone to. For example, the mystic al-Hallaj was executed in the ninth century because his statement "I am the Truth" was seen as a self-identification with God.
Nevertheless, such force was not the norm, and most Muslim rulers tried to control rather than eliminate Sufism - a good idea, considering how strong its following was among the common people. Thus, many religious leaders attempted to create some sort of synthesis between Sufism and orthodox Sunni Islam. A common method was to assert that Sufi mysticism is not a way to learn any new facts about reality which were not in the Qur'an, but is a valid way of understanding reality.
http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/islam/blfaq_islam_sufi.htm
"Nobody here will ask you your religion, or where you come from," he adds. "They just accept you."
---
Sufi orders or brotherhoods came to be called turuq, although it was not until the 12th and 13th centuries that they became stable enough to survive the death of their founder. This was achieved by the founder personally nominating a successor, and thus there are some today which can trace their lineage back to that time.
This, however, was uncommon. Whereas mainstream Islam tended to be rather scholastic in nature, Sufism focused on personal peity, which was easier for many Muslims to accept and live by. Although the Sufis tended to integrate beliefs and practices which came from outside Islam, those beliefs and practices were integral in the cultures to which Islam had been transplanted.
This made Sufism more appealing to indigenous people converting to Islam. Thus, Sufis were effectively Muslim missionaries, presenting to new peoples a more interesting face and belief system. They also tended to act as defenders of the lower classes against corrupt rulers.
Shi'ite beliefs had a lot of influence on Sufism, but mostly in the early days when Shi'a was more a school of thought than a distinct sect with its own ideology. One important idea which was transmitted from from the Shi'a to Sufism is that of the Mahdi, a messianic figure which will come to save Muslims from corrupt worldly rulers.
For the Shi'a, the Mahdi is the Twelfth Imam, who is currently hidden. For the Sufi, however, the Mahdi won't necessarily be a descendant of Ali, but will instead be a divinely guided leader who will appear at the End of Time to restore justice and truth over the forces of the indfidels. Although this has never been a formal doctrine in Sunni Islam, it has gained a foothold in the imaginations of most Muslims thanks to the Sufis.
Mainstream Islam has regarded Sufism with some suspicion because of the extremism in beliefs which mysticism is prone to. For example, the mystic al-Hallaj was executed in the ninth century because his statement "I am the Truth" was seen as a self-identification with God.
Nevertheless, such force was not the norm, and most Muslim rulers tried to control rather than eliminate Sufism - a good idea, considering how strong its following was among the common people. Thus, many religious leaders attempted to create some sort of synthesis between Sufism and orthodox Sunni Islam. A common method was to assert that Sufi mysticism is not a way to learn any new facts about reality which were not in the Qur'an, but is a valid way of understanding reality.
http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/islam/blfaq_islam_sufi.htm
http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/islam/blfaq_islam_sufi.htm
3 July 2012 23:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
But there is more to the allure of Sufism than its saints and sheiks. In 2001, one of the first things to happen after the Taliban was chased out of Kabul was that the doors of the Afghan capital's Bollywood cinemas were flung open to the public. The language of cosmic love that animates Bollywood music and enchants millions of Muslims around the world, even if sung and acted out by non-Muslims, is a direct legacy of centuries of Sufi devotional poetry. At Sufism's core, suggests Oxford University's Devji, is an embrace of the world. "It allows you to identify beyond your mosque and village to something that can be both Islamic and secular," he says. "It's a liberation that jihadis could never offer."
In recent years, the dominant image of islam in the minds of many Westerners has been one loaded with violence and shrouded with fear. The figures commanding global attention — be they al-Qaeda's leadership or certain mullahs in Tehran — preach an apocalyptic creed to an uncompromising faithful. This may be the Islam of a radical fringe, but in an era of flag-burnings and suicide bombings, it is the Islam of the moment.
And that is why some lament the decline of another, older and more tolerant Islam. For centuries many of the world's Muslims were, in one way or another, practi-tioners of Sufism, a spiritualism that centers on the mystical connection between the individual and the divine. Sufism's ethos was egalitarian, charitable and friendly, often propagated by wandering seers and storytellers. It blended with local cultures and cemented Islam's place from North Africa to the Indian subcontinent.
Yet amid the hurly-burly of 19th century empires, Sufism lost ground. The fall of Islam's traditional powers — imperial dynasties such as the Mughals and the Ottomans — created a hunger for a more muscular religious identity than that found in the intoxicating whirl of a dervish or the quiet wisdom of a sage. Nationalism and fundamentalism subdued Sufism's eclectic spirit. In the West, Sufism now usually provokes paeans to an alternative, ascetic life, backed up perhaps by a few verses from Rumi, a medieval Sufi poet much cherished by New Age spiritualists. But there was nothing fringe or alternative about it. "In many places, Sufism was the way whole populations expressed their Muslim identity," says Faisal Devji, an expert on political Islam at Oxford University. "In South Asia, it was the norm."
Some analysts think that historical legacy can still be exploited. A 2007 report by the Rand Corp., a U.S. think tank, advised Western governments to "harness" Sufism, saying its adherents were "natural allies of the West." Along similar lines, the Algerian government announced in July that it would promote the nation's Sufi heritage on radio and television in a bid to check the powerful influence of Salafism, a more extreme strain of Islam that is followed by al-Qaeda-backed militants waging a war against the country's autocratic state.
But can Sufism really bend terrorist swords into plowshares? The question is most urgent in South Asia, home to more than a third of the world's Muslims and the cradle of Sufi Islam. Shrines of Sufi saints are ubiquitous in India and Pakistan and still attract thousands of devotees. Yet the Taliban in Pakistan have set about destroying such sites, which are anathema to their literalist interpretation of the Koran. "Despite our ancient religious tradition," says Ayeda Naqvi, a writer and Sufi scholar from Lahore, "we are being bullied and intimidated by a new form of religion that is barely one generation old."
Still, Naqvi, Devji and other academics doubt that governments can use Sufism to fight their political battles. As in the past, foreign meddling would likely do more harm than good. "What is needed today, more than the West pushing any one form of religion," says Naqvi, "is a propagation of the underlying values of Sufism — love, harmony and beauty." This is not easy, especially in Pakistan, where poverty, corruption and the daily toll of the global war on terrorism simmer together in a volatile brew. Set against this, the transcendental faith of Sufi mystics seems quaint, if not entirely impotent.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1912091,00.html
Nevertheless, it has also been Sufism's fate to fall afoul of more narrow-minded dogmas — even during an earlier golden age. The tomb of Sarmad the Armenian, a storied Sufi saint, sits close to Delhi's Great Mosque. Sarmad looked for unity within Muslim and Hindu theology, and famously walked the streets of Lahore and Delhi naked, denouncing corrupt nobles and clerics. In 1661, he was arrested for heresy and beheaded under the orders of the Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb, a ruler admired now by Pakistani hard-liners for his championing of an orthodox Islam and the destruction of hundreds of Hindu temples. As Sarmad was led to his execution, he was heard to mutter lines of poetry: "There was an uproar, and we opened our eyes from eternal sleep," intoned the Sufi. "Saw that the night of wickedness endured, so we slept again." For many, Sufism's slumber has lasted far too long.
In recent years, the dominant image of islam in the minds of many Westerners has been one loaded with violence and shrouded with fear. The figures commanding global attention — be they al-Qaeda's leadership or certain mullahs in Tehran — preach an apocalyptic creed to an uncompromising faithful. This may be the Islam of a radical fringe, but in an era of flag-burnings and suicide bombings, it is the Islam of the moment.
And that is why some lament the decline of another, older and more tolerant Islam. For centuries many of the world's Muslims were, in one way or another, practi-tioners of Sufism, a spiritualism that centers on the mystical connection between the individual and the divine. Sufism's ethos was egalitarian, charitable and friendly, often propagated by wandering seers and storytellers. It blended with local cultures and cemented Islam's place from North Africa to the Indian subcontinent.
Yet amid the hurly-burly of 19th century empires, Sufism lost ground. The fall of Islam's traditional powers — imperial dynasties such as the Mughals and the Ottomans — created a hunger for a more muscular religious identity than that found in the intoxicating whirl of a dervish or the quiet wisdom of a sage. Nationalism and fundamentalism subdued Sufism's eclectic spirit. In the West, Sufism now usually provokes paeans to an alternative, ascetic life, backed up perhaps by a few verses from Rumi, a medieval Sufi poet much cherished by New Age spiritualists. But there was nothing fringe or alternative about it. "In many places, Sufism was the way whole populations expressed their Muslim identity," says Faisal Devji, an expert on political Islam at Oxford University. "In South Asia, it was the norm."
Some analysts think that historical legacy can still be exploited. A 2007 report by the Rand Corp., a U.S. think tank, advised Western governments to "harness" Sufism, saying its adherents were "natural allies of the West." Along similar lines, the Algerian government announced in July that it would promote the nation's Sufi heritage on radio and television in a bid to check the powerful influence of Salafism, a more extreme strain of Islam that is followed by al-Qaeda-backed militants waging a war against the country's autocratic state.
But can Sufism really bend terrorist swords into plowshares? The question is most urgent in South Asia, home to more than a third of the world's Muslims and the cradle of Sufi Islam. Shrines of Sufi saints are ubiquitous in India and Pakistan and still attract thousands of devotees. Yet the Taliban in Pakistan have set about destroying such sites, which are anathema to their literalist interpretation of the Koran. "Despite our ancient religious tradition," says Ayeda Naqvi, a writer and Sufi scholar from Lahore, "we are being bullied and intimidated by a new form of religion that is barely one generation old."
Still, Naqvi, Devji and other academics doubt that governments can use Sufism to fight their political battles. As in the past, foreign meddling would likely do more harm than good. "What is needed today, more than the West pushing any one form of religion," says Naqvi, "is a propagation of the underlying values of Sufism — love, harmony and beauty." This is not easy, especially in Pakistan, where poverty, corruption and the daily toll of the global war on terrorism simmer together in a volatile brew. Set against this, the transcendental faith of Sufi mystics seems quaint, if not entirely impotent.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1912091,00.html
Nevertheless, it has also been Sufism's fate to fall afoul of more narrow-minded dogmas — even during an earlier golden age. The tomb of Sarmad the Armenian, a storied Sufi saint, sits close to Delhi's Great Mosque. Sarmad looked for unity within Muslim and Hindu theology, and famously walked the streets of Lahore and Delhi naked, denouncing corrupt nobles and clerics. In 1661, he was arrested for heresy and beheaded under the orders of the Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb, a ruler admired now by Pakistani hard-liners for his championing of an orthodox Islam and the destruction of hundreds of Hindu temples. As Sarmad was led to his execution, he was heard to mutter lines of poetry: "There was an uproar, and we opened our eyes from eternal sleep," intoned the Sufi. "Saw that the night of wickedness endured, so we slept again." For many, Sufism's slumber has lasted far too long.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1912091,00.html?xid=fblike
3 July 2012 21:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
He found it deeply ironic that the Ansar Dine tomb destroyers, who said they were upholding the name of Islam, were ignoring and denying through their acts the rich layered history and geographical spread of this great global religion.
Noting the role Sufi believers played in spreading Islam beyond its Arabian heartland, Diagne said: "If it had not been for the Sufi orders, Islam would have been a local religion."
"They are more worried about purity than about being unpopular", is the explanation Diagne offers.
Scholars are also fretting about the fate of tens of thousands of ancient and brittle manuscripts, some from the 13th century, housed in libraries and private collections in Timbuktu. Academics say these prove Africa had a written history at least as old as the European Renaissance.
Days after the rebels took Timbuktu, local academics, librarians and citizens were hiding away the manuscripts to stop them being damaged or looted.
Jeppie said researchers had since fled the city. Some collectors had smuggled their rarest documents out to Bamako.
Diagne said the biggest fear was that historic manuscripts and artefacts would become the object of looting and trafficking for profit - just another trading commodity in the trackless Sahara, where trafficking in drugs, arms and migrants has replaced the old caravans of slaves, salt and gold.
...
"But historians say their campaign of destruction in the UNESCO-listed city is pulverising part of the history of Islam in Africa, which includes a centuries-old message of tolerance.
"They are striking at the heart of what Timbuktu stands for ... Mali and the world are losing a lot," Souleymane Bachir Diagne, a professor at New York's Columbia University and an expert on Islamic philosophy in Africa, told Reuters.
...
This kind of popular Sufi tradition of worship is anathema to Islamists like the Ansar Dine fighters - Defenders of the Faith - who adhere to Salafism, which is linked to the Wahhabi puritanical branch of Sunni Islam found in Saudi Arabia.
"A Salafi would say that creating a culture of saints is akin to idol-worshipping," Diagne said. Unlike Christianity, where the clergy formally confers sainthood, the veneration of "saints" in various, non-Wahhabi, strands of Islam largely arises from popular reverence for pious historical figures.
Rejecting a wave of outrage inside and outside Mali against the shrine destructions, an Ansar Dine spokesman in Timbuktu, Sanda Ould Boumama, defiantly told French radio RFI at the weekend that the actions were in line with the group's aim of installing sharia Islamic law across all of divided Mali.
...
"Human beings cannot be elevated higher than God ... When the Prophet entered Mecca, he said that all the mausoleums should be destroyed. And that's what we're repeating," Boumama said.
In what she called a "cry from the heart" for world help to halt the destruction, Malian Culture Minister Diallo Fadima Toure told a UNESCO World Heritage Committee meeting in St. Petersburg on Sunday that Ansar Dine's depredations had "nothing to do with Islam, a religion of peace and tolerance".
...
"It's against everybody and everything," said University of Cape Town Professor Shamil Jeppie, an expert on Timbuktu who co-edited with Diagne a 2008 study, "The Meanings of Timbuktu", on the city's priceless archaeology and ancient manuscripts.
...
Some believe the tomb-wrecking onslaught by Ansar Dine, which is led by Tuareg chieftain turned Salafist Iyad Ag Ghali, may have been directly triggered by UNESCO's decision on Thursday to accept the Mali government's urgent request to put Timbuktu on a list of endangered World Heritage sites.
"That is meaningless to Ansar Dine; what is UNESCO to them?" said Jeppie. Just as northern Nigerian Islamist militants are carrying out bloody bombings and shootings under the name Boko Haram (which broadly means "Western education is sinful"), so Ansar Dine's fighters may see UNESCO as an emblem of Western heresy.
"They are not scholars; they are foot soldiers," added Jeppie, adding they were probably unaware that Timbuktu, which was an alluring mirage of exoticism and remoteness for 19th-century European explorers, represented multiple and varied layers of Islamic tradition deposited like sand over centuries.
Its long history had tracked the turbulent rise and fall of the great African empires of Ghana, Mali and Songhai.
"Timbuktu was sacked many times before," said Jeppie.
"But we have had no events of destruction of monuments, mosques and tombs. It never happened before."
...
The UNESCO ambassadors meeting in St. Petersburg on Tuesday joined Malian Culture Minister Toure in appealing to global governments and organisations and "all people of goodwill" to act to prevent the prevent the destruction of the Timbuktu monuments by "vandals".
"We consider this action to be a crime against history," the appeal said.
/ (...just wondering how come have they been so quiet so long , eg last 30+ years?) /
...
Just as gold-hungry 19th-century European travellers who first cast eyes on Timbuktu were disappointed to find, not glittering minarets and palaces, but a desert-rimmed cluster of dun-coloured homes and mosques, so some observers might view the city's mausoleums and tombs as modest when compared with the architectural opulence of, say, Rome or Athens or Damascus.
The rectangular local mausoleums mimic the desert earthen architecture of the city's still imposing and renowned Sankore, Sidi Yahya and Djingarei-ber mosques, the latter Timbuktu's oldest, built in mud-brick and wood in 1325.
...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/03/uk-mali-crisis-timbuktu-idUSLNE86202G20120703
Noting the role Sufi believers played in spreading Islam beyond its Arabian heartland, Diagne said: "If it had not been for the Sufi orders, Islam would have been a local religion."
"They are more worried about purity than about being unpopular", is the explanation Diagne offers.
Scholars are also fretting about the fate of tens of thousands of ancient and brittle manuscripts, some from the 13th century, housed in libraries and private collections in Timbuktu. Academics say these prove Africa had a written history at least as old as the European Renaissance.
Days after the rebels took Timbuktu, local academics, librarians and citizens were hiding away the manuscripts to stop them being damaged or looted.
Jeppie said researchers had since fled the city. Some collectors had smuggled their rarest documents out to Bamako.
Diagne said the biggest fear was that historic manuscripts and artefacts would become the object of looting and trafficking for profit - just another trading commodity in the trackless Sahara, where trafficking in drugs, arms and migrants has replaced the old caravans of slaves, salt and gold.
...
"But historians say their campaign of destruction in the UNESCO-listed city is pulverising part of the history of Islam in Africa, which includes a centuries-old message of tolerance.
"They are striking at the heart of what Timbuktu stands for ... Mali and the world are losing a lot," Souleymane Bachir Diagne, a professor at New York's Columbia University and an expert on Islamic philosophy in Africa, told Reuters.
...
This kind of popular Sufi tradition of worship is anathema to Islamists like the Ansar Dine fighters - Defenders of the Faith - who adhere to Salafism, which is linked to the Wahhabi puritanical branch of Sunni Islam found in Saudi Arabia.
"A Salafi would say that creating a culture of saints is akin to idol-worshipping," Diagne said. Unlike Christianity, where the clergy formally confers sainthood, the veneration of "saints" in various, non-Wahhabi, strands of Islam largely arises from popular reverence for pious historical figures.
Rejecting a wave of outrage inside and outside Mali against the shrine destructions, an Ansar Dine spokesman in Timbuktu, Sanda Ould Boumama, defiantly told French radio RFI at the weekend that the actions were in line with the group's aim of installing sharia Islamic law across all of divided Mali.
...
"Human beings cannot be elevated higher than God ... When the Prophet entered Mecca, he said that all the mausoleums should be destroyed. And that's what we're repeating," Boumama said.
In what she called a "cry from the heart" for world help to halt the destruction, Malian Culture Minister Diallo Fadima Toure told a UNESCO World Heritage Committee meeting in St. Petersburg on Sunday that Ansar Dine's depredations had "nothing to do with Islam, a religion of peace and tolerance".
...
"It's against everybody and everything," said University of Cape Town Professor Shamil Jeppie, an expert on Timbuktu who co-edited with Diagne a 2008 study, "The Meanings of Timbuktu", on the city's priceless archaeology and ancient manuscripts.
...
Some believe the tomb-wrecking onslaught by Ansar Dine, which is led by Tuareg chieftain turned Salafist Iyad Ag Ghali, may have been directly triggered by UNESCO's decision on Thursday to accept the Mali government's urgent request to put Timbuktu on a list of endangered World Heritage sites.
"That is meaningless to Ansar Dine; what is UNESCO to them?" said Jeppie. Just as northern Nigerian Islamist militants are carrying out bloody bombings and shootings under the name Boko Haram (which broadly means "Western education is sinful"), so Ansar Dine's fighters may see UNESCO as an emblem of Western heresy.
"They are not scholars; they are foot soldiers," added Jeppie, adding they were probably unaware that Timbuktu, which was an alluring mirage of exoticism and remoteness for 19th-century European explorers, represented multiple and varied layers of Islamic tradition deposited like sand over centuries.
Its long history had tracked the turbulent rise and fall of the great African empires of Ghana, Mali and Songhai.
"Timbuktu was sacked many times before," said Jeppie.
"But we have had no events of destruction of monuments, mosques and tombs. It never happened before."
...
The UNESCO ambassadors meeting in St. Petersburg on Tuesday joined Malian Culture Minister Toure in appealing to global governments and organisations and "all people of goodwill" to act to prevent the prevent the destruction of the Timbuktu monuments by "vandals".
"We consider this action to be a crime against history," the appeal said.
/ (...just wondering how come have they been so quiet so long , eg last 30+ years?) /
...
Just as gold-hungry 19th-century European travellers who first cast eyes on Timbuktu were disappointed to find, not glittering minarets and palaces, but a desert-rimmed cluster of dun-coloured homes and mosques, so some observers might view the city's mausoleums and tombs as modest when compared with the architectural opulence of, say, Rome or Athens or Damascus.
The rectangular local mausoleums mimic the desert earthen architecture of the city's still imposing and renowned Sankore, Sidi Yahya and Djingarei-ber mosques, the latter Timbuktu's oldest, built in mud-brick and wood in 1325.
...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/03/uk-mali-crisis-timbuktu-idUSLNE86202G20120703
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/03/uk-mali-crisis-timbuktu-idUSLNE86202G20120703
3 July 2012 21:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
(most of the articles are even more ugly then this one, but its for reference anyways)
"In Timbuktu, it appears the Islamists are running roughshod over a fearful, traumatized populace. A gang of Ansar Dine allegedly tore down one of the doors of the 15th century Sidi Yahya mosque. Tradition has it that that particular portal would only open on the last day of the world — a local superstition wrapped up in messianic fables that the Islamists wanted to prove hollow. But, with their historic city crumbling around them, the people of Timbuktu have every right to imagine a world ending."
(...as in 2001)
"It was a singular, defining act of barbarism, beamed out live for the world to see. In March 2001, Taliban fighters and grandees clustered around the famed giant statues of the Buddha in Afghanistan’s Bamiyan province, laid explosives at their feet and blew them up. The extremists’ shadowy leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar, lauded the destruction of the two towering 6th century monuments: “Muslims should be proud of smashing idols. It has given praise to God that we have destroyed them.”
"Similar language and zeal was on air Monday when news emerged of an Islamist faction in Mali desecrating a number of tombs in the ancient city of Timbuktu, which in recent months fell under control of a separatist insurgency. “The destruction is a divine order,” said a spokesman from Ansar Dine, a radical outfit with alleged links to al-Qaeda. According to reports, the militants have set about tearing down centuries-old mausoleums of Muslim holy men in Timbuktu, a Saharan crossroads known in lore as “the city of 333 saints” and long a fabled destination for backpacking tourists. UNESCO, the U.N.’s cultural agency, says as many as half of the city’s shrines “have been destroyed in a display of fanaticism."
http://world.time.com/2012/07/02/timbuktus-destruction-why-islamists-are-wrecking-malis-cultural-heritage/
"In Timbuktu, it appears the Islamists are running roughshod over a fearful, traumatized populace. A gang of Ansar Dine allegedly tore down one of the doors of the 15th century Sidi Yahya mosque. Tradition has it that that particular portal would only open on the last day of the world — a local superstition wrapped up in messianic fables that the Islamists wanted to prove hollow. But, with their historic city crumbling around them, the people of Timbuktu have every right to imagine a world ending."
(...as in 2001)
"It was a singular, defining act of barbarism, beamed out live for the world to see. In March 2001, Taliban fighters and grandees clustered around the famed giant statues of the Buddha in Afghanistan’s Bamiyan province, laid explosives at their feet and blew them up. The extremists’ shadowy leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar, lauded the destruction of the two towering 6th century monuments: “Muslims should be proud of smashing idols. It has given praise to God that we have destroyed them.”
"Similar language and zeal was on air Monday when news emerged of an Islamist faction in Mali desecrating a number of tombs in the ancient city of Timbuktu, which in recent months fell under control of a separatist insurgency. “The destruction is a divine order,” said a spokesman from Ansar Dine, a radical outfit with alleged links to al-Qaeda. According to reports, the militants have set about tearing down centuries-old mausoleums of Muslim holy men in Timbuktu, a Saharan crossroads known in lore as “the city of 333 saints” and long a fabled destination for backpacking tourists. UNESCO, the U.N.’s cultural agency, says as many as half of the city’s shrines “have been destroyed in a display of fanaticism."
http://world.time.com/2012/07/02/timbuktus-destruction-why-islamists-are-wrecking-malis-cultural-heritage/
http://world.time.com/2012/07/02/timbuktus-destruction-why-islamists-are-wrecking-malis-cultural-heritage/
3 July 2012 21:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
The Benefits of Labor and Agriculture
The social benefits of trades, crafts, and agricultural pursuits are discussed in this book. The author describes the contributions to society of various vocations and expresses the fundamental dignity that individuals acquire by working in socially useful employments.
Anonymous,
Kitab al-Barakah fi Fadl al-Hiraf wa-al-Zar
(The Book Describing the Blessed Merits of Crafts and Agriculture).
Slave Trade
This is an agreement among merchants involved in the sale and transportation of slaves between Timbuktu in Mali and Ghadamas in Libya.
Commercial agreement
Gold as Currency
This commercial agreement focuses on buying and selling in several cities. It also refers to the cost of building houses in the city of Massinah. Gold is used as the standard of value in all transactions, which include the buying and selling of slaves, gold bullion, and gum arabic.
Commercial agreement.
Freedom for a Slave
This certificate gives a detailed physical description of a woman who is being granted her freedom by her owner. The document is drawn in the manner prescribed by Islamic law.
Certificate of emancipation for Female slave.
To Timbuktu by Land
This map of Africa by the important sixteenth-century cartographer Abraham Ortelius displays a conception of the world that is land centered. West Africa and Timbuktu are shown situated in relation to the rest of Africa, demonstrating a world view that focuses on overland travel and still remembers Timbuktu as an important way station on the caravan routes.
Abraham Ortelius.
"Africae Tabula Nova" (New Map of Africa),
Theatrum Orbis Terrarum. (Theatre of the World).
Antwerp: G. von Diest, 1572.
To Timbuktu by Sea
This map from the eighteenth century shows clearly the change in trade and travel that had occurred by 1743. Rather than being viewed as part of the larger continent, West Africa is presented with a focus on the sea routes that had replaced the land caravan routes to the area.
Guinea propia, nec non Nigritiae vel Terrae Nigororum maxima pars: geographis hodiemis dicta utraque Aethiopia inferior, & hujus quidem pars australis
(Guinea Proper, Not Including the Whole of Africa, but Only that Part Known to the Geographers as Lower Ethiopia).
Nuremberg: Homannianorum Heredum, 1743.
The social benefits of trades, crafts, and agricultural pursuits are discussed in this book. The author describes the contributions to society of various vocations and expresses the fundamental dignity that individuals acquire by working in socially useful employments.
Anonymous,
Kitab al-Barakah fi Fadl al-Hiraf wa-al-Zar
(The Book Describing the Blessed Merits of Crafts and Agriculture).
Slave Trade
This is an agreement among merchants involved in the sale and transportation of slaves between Timbuktu in Mali and Ghadamas in Libya.
Commercial agreement
Gold as Currency
This commercial agreement focuses on buying and selling in several cities. It also refers to the cost of building houses in the city of Massinah. Gold is used as the standard of value in all transactions, which include the buying and selling of slaves, gold bullion, and gum arabic.
Commercial agreement.
Freedom for a Slave
This certificate gives a detailed physical description of a woman who is being granted her freedom by her owner. The document is drawn in the manner prescribed by Islamic law.
Certificate of emancipation for Female slave.
To Timbuktu by Land
This map of Africa by the important sixteenth-century cartographer Abraham Ortelius displays a conception of the world that is land centered. West Africa and Timbuktu are shown situated in relation to the rest of Africa, demonstrating a world view that focuses on overland travel and still remembers Timbuktu as an important way station on the caravan routes.
Abraham Ortelius.
"Africae Tabula Nova" (New Map of Africa),
Theatrum Orbis Terrarum. (Theatre of the World).
Antwerp: G. von Diest, 1572.
To Timbuktu by Sea
This map from the eighteenth century shows clearly the change in trade and travel that had occurred by 1743. Rather than being viewed as part of the larger continent, West Africa is presented with a focus on the sea routes that had replaced the land caravan routes to the area.
Guinea propia, nec non Nigritiae vel Terrae Nigororum maxima pars: geographis hodiemis dicta utraque Aethiopia inferior, & hujus quidem pars australis
(Guinea Proper, Not Including the Whole of Africa, but Only that Part Known to the Geographers as Lower Ethiopia).
Nuremberg: Homannianorum Heredum, 1743.
3 July 2012 20:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ethical Behavior
The ethical conduct of business and government is the subject of the exemplary stories contained within this book. The author takes particular care to impress upon the reader the necessity of ethical behavior when occupying an official position.
Abu Ali al-Hasan ibn Ali al-Ahwazi.
al-Fawa'id wa-al-Qala'id
(Useful Stories and Verses).
An Argument for Peace
The author, a scholar and religious leader, urges warring factions to make peace and live in peace. He supports his argument with quotations from the Koran and allusions to the practice of Muhammad and his companions, which require the faithful to avoid discord, to reconcile, and to live in peace and tolerance.
Sayyid al-Mukhtar ibn Ahmad ibn Abi Bakr al-Kunti al-Kabir.
Risalah ila al-Qaba'il al-Mutaqatilin
(Letter to the Warring Tribes).
Answer to a Royal Request
This document is a reply to the ruler of Massinah, Amir Ahmad, who ordered the arrest of a German traveler, Heinrich Bart, suspected of spying for the British. The author of the reply cites Islamic law as making the arrest illegal and declines to obey the amir. The scholar states that a non-Muslim entering the domain of Muslims in peace is protected and may not be arrested, have his property confiscated, or to be otherwise hindered.
Ahmad al-Bakayi ibn Sayyid Muhammad
ibn Sayyid al-Mukhtar al-Kunti.
Jawab Ahmad al-Bakayi ala Risalat Amir
al-Mu'minin Ahmad al-Masini
(The Response of Ahmad al-Bakayi to the
Letter of Amir Ahmad, Ruler of Massinah),
eighteenth century.
The ethical conduct of business and government is the subject of the exemplary stories contained within this book. The author takes particular care to impress upon the reader the necessity of ethical behavior when occupying an official position.
Abu Ali al-Hasan ibn Ali al-Ahwazi.
al-Fawa'id wa-al-Qala'id
(Useful Stories and Verses).
An Argument for Peace
The author, a scholar and religious leader, urges warring factions to make peace and live in peace. He supports his argument with quotations from the Koran and allusions to the practice of Muhammad and his companions, which require the faithful to avoid discord, to reconcile, and to live in peace and tolerance.
Sayyid al-Mukhtar ibn Ahmad ibn Abi Bakr al-Kunti al-Kabir.
Risalah ila al-Qaba'il al-Mutaqatilin
(Letter to the Warring Tribes).
Answer to a Royal Request
This document is a reply to the ruler of Massinah, Amir Ahmad, who ordered the arrest of a German traveler, Heinrich Bart, suspected of spying for the British. The author of the reply cites Islamic law as making the arrest illegal and declines to obey the amir. The scholar states that a non-Muslim entering the domain of Muslims in peace is protected and may not be arrested, have his property confiscated, or to be otherwise hindered.
Ahmad al-Bakayi ibn Sayyid Muhammad
ibn Sayyid al-Mukhtar al-Kunti.
Jawab Ahmad al-Bakayi ala Risalat Amir
al-Mu'minin Ahmad al-Masini
(The Response of Ahmad al-Bakayi to the
Letter of Amir Ahmad, Ruler of Massinah),
eighteenth century.
3 July 2012 20:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Pillars of Iman (Faith)
The Pillars of Iman, the fundamental principles of the Islamic faith, are presented in this book. It covers the elements of faith, including belief in God, his angels and messengers, and the scriptures. Also discussed are belief in the last judgement and the inevitability of God's will, regardless of human understanding or desire.
Arbab al-Khartumi.
al-Jawahir al-Hisan fi Marifat Arkan al-Iman
(The Jewel of Beauty for Education in the Pillars of the Faith).
Law and Politics in the Songhai Empire
This treatise consists of the answers to seven questions asked of the author by the Emperor of Songhai. When discussing political and economic issues the author advises the Emperor that he is obliged to apply Islamic law strictly in these areas of life. Therefore, the Emperor needs to seek the advice of pious scholars.
Muhammad ibn Abd al-Karim al-Maghili.
As'ilat Askiyah wa-Ajwibat al-Maghili
(Maghili's Tract on Politics).
Advice to Governors
The author of this work delineates the authority of governors and rulers and their limitations under Islamic law. He particularly calls attention to the need to understand the responsibility of power and its use. The author presents as a ruler's obligation the provision of social justice and protection of the property of the state's residents.
'Uthman ibn Muhammad ibn 'Uthman ibn Fodyo.
Usul al-'Adl li-Wullat al-Umur wa-Ahl al-Fadl wa-al-Salatin
(The Administration of Justice for Governors, Princes and the Meritorious Rulers).
Disease and Cure in Timbuktu
This compilation of cures instructs the reader about methods of diagnosing and medicating the sick. The author also explains the use of animal, plant, and mineral substances as medications. Prayers and Koranic verses that are helpful against illness are included. Displayed are instructions for writing prayers, helpful to the sick, for use in amulets.
Sayyid Ahmad ibn Amar al-Raqadi al-Tumbukti al-Kunti.
Shifa' al-Asqam al-Aridah fi al-Zahir wa-al-Batin min al-Ajsam
(Curing Diseases and Defects both Apparent and Hidden).
The Pillars of Iman, the fundamental principles of the Islamic faith, are presented in this book. It covers the elements of faith, including belief in God, his angels and messengers, and the scriptures. Also discussed are belief in the last judgement and the inevitability of God's will, regardless of human understanding or desire.
Arbab al-Khartumi.
al-Jawahir al-Hisan fi Marifat Arkan al-Iman
(The Jewel of Beauty for Education in the Pillars of the Faith).
Law and Politics in the Songhai Empire
This treatise consists of the answers to seven questions asked of the author by the Emperor of Songhai. When discussing political and economic issues the author advises the Emperor that he is obliged to apply Islamic law strictly in these areas of life. Therefore, the Emperor needs to seek the advice of pious scholars.
Muhammad ibn Abd al-Karim al-Maghili.
As'ilat Askiyah wa-Ajwibat al-Maghili
(Maghili's Tract on Politics).
Advice to Governors
The author of this work delineates the authority of governors and rulers and their limitations under Islamic law. He particularly calls attention to the need to understand the responsibility of power and its use. The author presents as a ruler's obligation the provision of social justice and protection of the property of the state's residents.
'Uthman ibn Muhammad ibn 'Uthman ibn Fodyo.
Usul al-'Adl li-Wullat al-Umur wa-Ahl al-Fadl wa-al-Salatin
(The Administration of Justice for Governors, Princes and the Meritorious Rulers).
Disease and Cure in Timbuktu
This compilation of cures instructs the reader about methods of diagnosing and medicating the sick. The author also explains the use of animal, plant, and mineral substances as medications. Prayers and Koranic verses that are helpful against illness are included. Displayed are instructions for writing prayers, helpful to the sick, for use in amulets.
Sayyid Ahmad ibn Amar al-Raqadi al-Tumbukti al-Kunti.
Shifa' al-Asqam al-Aridah fi al-Zahir wa-al-Batin min al-Ajsam
(Curing Diseases and Defects both Apparent and Hidden).
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Islamic Mysticism
This text explains the basic principles of Sufi practice, pointing out the various stages of knowledge that mystics pass through as their knowledge of God increases through their strict application of devotional discipline. The author further discusses the relationship between belief, Sufi doctrine, and knowledge of God.
Sayyid al-Mukhtar ibn Ahmad
ibn Abi Bakr al-Kunti al-Kabir.
Jizwat al-Anwar fi al-Dhabb an Manasib
Awliya' Allah al-Akhyar
(The Flowers of Light in Defense of the
Status of God's Chosen Saints),
Philosophical Exchange
The author of this work examines the approach to various issues in Islamic law and society by theologians and scholars and offers an explanation of the pronouncements of these learned individuals.
Sayf al-Din Ali ibn al-Amdi.
al-Mubin fi Mukhtasar Maani al-Alfaz al-Mutadawilah bayna al-Hukama' wa-al-Mutakallimin
(A Summary Explanation of the Pronouncements of the Scholars and Theologians)
The Rise and Setting Auspicious Stars
This collection of writings is based on the Greco-Roman legacy of astronomy with the addition of discoveries made by Muslim scholars. The text is presented in the form of a Platonic discourse. It includes an explanation of how to determine which star is ascendent and what that portends for the world.
Ahkam al-Shira al-Yamaniyah wa-ma Yazharu min Hawadith fi al-Alam inda Zuhuriha fi Kull Sanah.
(Knowledge of the Movement of the Stars and What it Portends in Every Year).
Arithmetic Primer
This commentary by the eighteenth-century scholar al-Rasmuki explains a work by al-Samlali the medieval mathematician. Using charts and examples of problems, the commentator demonstrates the rules of addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division. He also discusses the history and development of mathematics. The text was used extensively by students in Timbuktu and North Africa.
Ahmad ibn Sulayman al-Rasmuki.
Kashf al-Hijab li-Asfiya' al-Ahbab an Ajnihat
al-Righab fi Marifat al-Hisab
(Explanations of the Problems in Arithmetic with Examples).
Islamic Doctrine
This work concentrates on the doctrine of the existence of God and God's single and unique nature. The writer explains the meaning of the terms referring to the intimate knowledge of God, as well as belief in God, his angels, and his prophets.
Muhammad ibn Muhammad ibn Muhammad al-Misri.
Bughyat al-Talibin li-ma Tadammanatihu Umm al-Barahin.
(The Goal of Seekers, a Commentary on the Work The Mother of Proofs).
Loaned by the Cheik Zani Baye Library, Boujbeha, Mali
This text explains the basic principles of Sufi practice, pointing out the various stages of knowledge that mystics pass through as their knowledge of God increases through their strict application of devotional discipline. The author further discusses the relationship between belief, Sufi doctrine, and knowledge of God.
Sayyid al-Mukhtar ibn Ahmad
ibn Abi Bakr al-Kunti al-Kabir.
Jizwat al-Anwar fi al-Dhabb an Manasib
Awliya' Allah al-Akhyar
(The Flowers of Light in Defense of the
Status of God's Chosen Saints),
Philosophical Exchange
The author of this work examines the approach to various issues in Islamic law and society by theologians and scholars and offers an explanation of the pronouncements of these learned individuals.
Sayf al-Din Ali ibn al-Amdi.
al-Mubin fi Mukhtasar Maani al-Alfaz al-Mutadawilah bayna al-Hukama' wa-al-Mutakallimin
(A Summary Explanation of the Pronouncements of the Scholars and Theologians)
The Rise and Setting Auspicious Stars
This collection of writings is based on the Greco-Roman legacy of astronomy with the addition of discoveries made by Muslim scholars. The text is presented in the form of a Platonic discourse. It includes an explanation of how to determine which star is ascendent and what that portends for the world.
Ahkam al-Shira al-Yamaniyah wa-ma Yazharu min Hawadith fi al-Alam inda Zuhuriha fi Kull Sanah.
(Knowledge of the Movement of the Stars and What it Portends in Every Year).
Arithmetic Primer
This commentary by the eighteenth-century scholar al-Rasmuki explains a work by al-Samlali the medieval mathematician. Using charts and examples of problems, the commentator demonstrates the rules of addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division. He also discusses the history and development of mathematics. The text was used extensively by students in Timbuktu and North Africa.
Ahmad ibn Sulayman al-Rasmuki.
Kashf al-Hijab li-Asfiya' al-Ahbab an Ajnihat
al-Righab fi Marifat al-Hisab
(Explanations of the Problems in Arithmetic with Examples).
Islamic Doctrine
This work concentrates on the doctrine of the existence of God and God's single and unique nature. The writer explains the meaning of the terms referring to the intimate knowledge of God, as well as belief in God, his angels, and his prophets.
Muhammad ibn Muhammad ibn Muhammad al-Misri.
Bughyat al-Talibin li-ma Tadammanatihu Umm al-Barahin.
(The Goal of Seekers, a Commentary on the Work The Mother of Proofs).
Loaned by the Cheik Zani Baye Library, Boujbeha, Mali
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From Timbuktu
Structure of the Heavens
This text was written to train scholars in the field of astronomy, a science that Islamic tradition traces back to Adam and to the Prophet Idris. The author discusses how to use the movements of the stars to calculate the beginning of the seasons and how to cast horoscopes, among many other aspects of astronomy. Displayed is a diagram demonstrating the rotation of the heavens.
* Nasir al-Din Abu al-Abbas Ahmad ibn al-Hajj al-Amin al-Tawathi al-Ghalawi. Kashf al-Ghummah fi Nafa al-Ummah
(The Important Stars Among the Multitude of the Heavens),
copied 1733. Loaned by the Mamma Haidara Commemorative Library, Timbuktu, Mali (1)
A Poem on Islamic Law
The author of this poem is instructing students of Islamic law about the rights of orphans and married women. Verse is used as an aid to the student's memory.
*Sayyid al-Mukhtar ibn Ahmad ibn Abi Bakr al-Kunti al-Kabir. Qasidah (Poem).
The Law of Inheritance
Islamic inheritance law is a highly regulated system in which individuals receive legacies depending upon their degree of relationship to the deceased. This work explains that system and elaborates upon its basis in the Koran.
*al-Qadi Muhammad ibn al-Imam Uthman al-Wakari al-Tumbukti,
Sharh 'ala Amthilat al-Fara'id (Commentary on the work Examples of Law).
Laws of Commerce in Verse
This volume delineates the obligations of parties to commercial exchanges and contracts. The author focuses on sales and how individuals loaning money are to be protected in commercial transactions. Verse is used to aid in memorizing the text.
Ahmad ibn Bud ibn Muhammad al-Fullani. Sullam al-Atfal fi Buyu al-Ajal
(The Protection of Individuals in Commercial Transactions).
The Law of Slavery
The author discusses slavery as it existed in West Africa during the seventeenth century. The examination of the subject is based on Islamic law and the author notes that the fundamental and original nature of humanity is that individuals are free. They may be enslaved only under certain very specific conditions governed by Islamic law.
Ahmad Baba ibn Ahmad ibn Umar ibn Muhammad
Aqit al-Tumbukti. Miraj al-Suud ila nayl Majlub al-Sudan
(Ahmad Baba Answers a Moroccan's
Questions about Slavery).
Islamic Saints
Sufis (Islamic mystics) form an important element in Islamic society. The author provides an explanation of their mystical doctrine and practice. He also discusses recognizing pious and holy mystics as saints and the value of their intercession on behalf of believers. The text stresses the practice of the Tijaniyah order of Sufis. Displayed is a diagram explaining the religious life of the mystics, which revolves around the teaching of their master.
al-Hajj Umar ibn Said al-Futi.
Rimah Hizb al-Rahim 'ala Nuhuri Hizb al-Rajim
(The Spear of the Merciful against the Throat of the Reviled)
Structure of the Heavens
This text was written to train scholars in the field of astronomy, a science that Islamic tradition traces back to Adam and to the Prophet Idris. The author discusses how to use the movements of the stars to calculate the beginning of the seasons and how to cast horoscopes, among many other aspects of astronomy. Displayed is a diagram demonstrating the rotation of the heavens.
* Nasir al-Din Abu al-Abbas Ahmad ibn al-Hajj al-Amin al-Tawathi al-Ghalawi. Kashf al-Ghummah fi Nafa al-Ummah
(The Important Stars Among the Multitude of the Heavens),
copied 1733. Loaned by the Mamma Haidara Commemorative Library, Timbuktu, Mali (1)
A Poem on Islamic Law
The author of this poem is instructing students of Islamic law about the rights of orphans and married women. Verse is used as an aid to the student's memory.
*Sayyid al-Mukhtar ibn Ahmad ibn Abi Bakr al-Kunti al-Kabir. Qasidah (Poem).
The Law of Inheritance
Islamic inheritance law is a highly regulated system in which individuals receive legacies depending upon their degree of relationship to the deceased. This work explains that system and elaborates upon its basis in the Koran.
*al-Qadi Muhammad ibn al-Imam Uthman al-Wakari al-Tumbukti,
Sharh 'ala Amthilat al-Fara'id (Commentary on the work Examples of Law).
Laws of Commerce in Verse
This volume delineates the obligations of parties to commercial exchanges and contracts. The author focuses on sales and how individuals loaning money are to be protected in commercial transactions. Verse is used to aid in memorizing the text.
Ahmad ibn Bud ibn Muhammad al-Fullani. Sullam al-Atfal fi Buyu al-Ajal
(The Protection of Individuals in Commercial Transactions).
The Law of Slavery
The author discusses slavery as it existed in West Africa during the seventeenth century. The examination of the subject is based on Islamic law and the author notes that the fundamental and original nature of humanity is that individuals are free. They may be enslaved only under certain very specific conditions governed by Islamic law.
Ahmad Baba ibn Ahmad ibn Umar ibn Muhammad
Aqit al-Tumbukti. Miraj al-Suud ila nayl Majlub al-Sudan
(Ahmad Baba Answers a Moroccan's
Questions about Slavery).
Islamic Saints
Sufis (Islamic mystics) form an important element in Islamic society. The author provides an explanation of their mystical doctrine and practice. He also discusses recognizing pious and holy mystics as saints and the value of their intercession on behalf of believers. The text stresses the practice of the Tijaniyah order of Sufis. Displayed is a diagram explaining the religious life of the mystics, which revolves around the teaching of their master.
al-Hajj Umar ibn Said al-Futi.
Rimah Hizb al-Rahim 'ala Nuhuri Hizb al-Rajim
(The Spear of the Merciful against the Throat of the Reviled)
3 July 2012 20:40
Margus Meigo commented on Tiffany Sanae Onestar Woodbury's post.
to be honest, i have not had dollars for long time by now.. cosindering to find some for my self soon..., but will keep it here, in hope that someone Do have :)
3 July 2012 09:59
Margus Meigo commented on Infowar Coalition's photo.
who puts on the id picture that cuts off part of the head... Cˇmone...
3 July 2012 06:19
Margus Meigo commented on Count-Daniel John Fogarty's post.
Thing that man have yet to learn is - is taking a power a good thing..?
3 July 2012 06:05
Margus Meigo commented on Fish Tank's album.
Not sure how or where should i wote it, but anyway, vote for mia :)
3 July 2012 05:35
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
MmTL
Mass media Tools for Love
would be needed...
Mass media Tools for Love
would be needed...
3 July 2012 01:42
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
have also smt 2 sy also about that but will retrain it for now
not as one have not pulled up lots ow weed on potential paradise garden thats around me, except for eating...
u might be so right but still, need to do what can be done
not as one have not pulled up lots ow weed on potential paradise garden thats around me, except for eating...
u might be so right but still, need to do what can be done
2 July 2012 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
and... im also not so keen to support the present monet philosophy, or rather, how its being used and interpeted by texts and people who have seen around
should we not have, Long future ahead, on our eyes with the present? What for are we?
For sure not to take all we can, from today, with forceful mind
should we not have, Long future ahead, on our eyes with the present? What for are we?
For sure not to take all we can, from today, with forceful mind
1 July 2012 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
well, actually one Should really do it perhaps,
in africa they actually use mirrors and psy plants to cast out deamons and what else, from the body.
People will leave hardest addictions known to man, with in days... :)
in africa they actually use mirrors and psy plants to cast out deamons and what else, from the body.
People will leave hardest addictions known to man, with in days... :)
1 July 2012 19:32
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
unless you are stuck in a toilet
1 July 2012 19:27
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Is there and directory of False/Right Conciousness somewhere one could take look at*?
and heey.. what a bout the shrooms and things, so one here could know from where and what are we talking about :)
and heey.. what a bout the shrooms and things, so one here could know from where and what are we talking about :)
1 July 2012 19:01
Margus Meigo commented on Bernard Alvarez's link.
Apple is callin up on himself what they are
1 July 2012 18:32
Margus Meigo commented on Exposing The Truth's link.
Pretty good update from fb
1 July 2012 18:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid yah, kuna tegu pereraadioga siis pigem vast Manowar jms religioosed valge metali bändid
but yeah. still looking the answer.. 2st korda juba kuulsin seda laulu kuid lyyrikatega netist eip leia, suht strange
but yeah. still looking the answer.. 2st korda juba kuulsin seda laulu kuid lyyrikatega netist eip leia, suht strange
1 July 2012 18:22
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
..but seriously, WHY keep drinking, at all
most likelly you have had some dark-alone closed-eye shroom acid trips ? Like.. these in right setting should take away the worry about worry
most likelly you have had some dark-alone closed-eye shroom acid trips ? Like.. these in right setting should take away the worry about worry
1 July 2012 17:41
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Actually ... smoking should make the not drinking part easyer, and easier the part where you do not need to laught to feel good, ya just smile and do what we come here to do :)
1 July 2012 17:38
Margus Meigo commented on Matthew M. Curtin's post.
all good for me, if good for us :)
1 July 2012 06:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kohe enne "kas patusest võib saada pühak" juttu
(:
(:
1 July 2012 04:31
Margus Meigo commented on Matthew M. Curtin's post.
are doing it already :)
lets write to eachother when something spesific comes to the mind, in here or in msg?
lets write to eachother when something spesific comes to the mind, in here or in msg?
1 July 2012 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
but actually, ... still warming, before (winter or summer) .. :)
1 July 2012 03:45
Margus Meigo commented on Chriss Allen's post.
Strange name bro :)
(the UN part) - Unless..its United :)
(the UN part) - Unless..its United :)
1 July 2012 03:43
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
actually thought would be cool to leave it in to this kind of spelling, then one who reads pays more attention to some parts that can be understood :p
30 June 2012 04:20
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
chaos.. surrender? .. are these.. real things (surrender as not surrender to God/Lover.. but as to surrender to something you do not love to the last dark matter part.. we can consive anyone to consive....) Means.. in the rooms where angels, spirits, talking plants and communicating ants are real.. in this room.. these 2 things are ... aren't they human made consents that just barely exists as we lacking real fantasy and courage to Really take responsibility and to Really, Really Love in ways that we Know we are awake, in ways we have no demands and no bitty and no fear and no ... in away.. it is like having no feelings at all, ... neutralized in a way... hmm.. well.. now... this is real surrender... to the Everything ... surrender to the Love
well, yes, it perhaps can be... is it some what born again Christians talking about ? Or deepest love poems.. ? Or .. should we just get with it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdo5dCHNZec
kind of answers to bought sides of the question, does it ?
well, yes, it perhaps can be... is it some what born again Christians talking about ? Or deepest love poems.. ? Or .. should we just get with it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdo5dCHNZec
kind of answers to bought sides of the question, does it ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdo5dCHNZec
30 June 2012 04:15
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
Not in the levels of Love one here is talking about
30 June 2012 04:02
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
...or why would we want to ?
30 June 2012 04:01
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
or can we ?
30 June 2012 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
You can not control the Love :)
30 June 2012 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
For Sure
True-story
True-story
30 June 2012 03:52
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
*the bitch
30 June 2012 03:49
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
All, She needs is love and to be loved :)
30 June 2012 03:49
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
i got new translation from friend ower here: Careless Horny Female Dog :p
30 June 2012 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
but yea, just wondering how extra terestials would translate our chats
30 June 2012 01:31
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
suuuka pläät :D
30 June 2012 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
menja ne kavarit pa rustky, But debja?
30 June 2012 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
lol, so we are going in to tempest diseased wearfolw world .p
30 June 2012 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
this sounds like an satan to me, ( in uterly bad term of the word Satan)
30 June 2012 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
or does the bich have some extra quality in it, to extend the meaning of the women?
30 June 2012 01:26
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
good
so explanation would be : Feelingness Women ?
so explanation would be : Feelingness Women ?
30 June 2012 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on Matthew M. Curtin's photo.
Mens have ability to love many, one and everyone, out of blue
True-story
True-story
30 June 2012 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
sincere question, it is
30 June 2012 00:45
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
well, kind of feeling what this word means, but would like to .. get some clarification, from You/Others, on how would you explain Inconsiderate Bitch
- - to one who does not know the meaning of these words, in layman terms
- - to one who does not know the meaning of these words, in layman terms
30 June 2012 00:43
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
(:
30 June 2012 00:38
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
what Inconsiderate means ?
30 June 2012 00:38
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
as u know urself, u shamanic brother u : )
29 June 2012 19:09
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Ära hakka lambaks ja tekita pohmakaid tihti , pohmakas on meeldetuletuseks et panid puuse :)
29 June 2012 19:08
Margus Meigo commented on Positive thoughts By InspiredTunisianGirl |أفكار إيجابية's photo.
ohh.. boor police man... i hope ones fingers are not hurt by this angry human who is tiring to byte him.. you can see from ones face that he is hurting, lots, from inside
27 June 2012 05:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Avardu Mine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYVhhNvFpFo :)
Armastusega,
Margushttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYVhhNvFpFo
27 June 2012 05:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Its alright, i cant keep track with my self also here and there :)
27 June 2012 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's link.
Ma algul mõtlesin et tyybil midagi viga, et love in mind ja hate in heart :D kuid nad vist ikka laulavad ses mõttes, neist kes sedasi on sellese kinni jäänud, neist kes tänaval riotivad, või mis arvad?
But..
"But I swear one way or another I'm a make these fuckin' haters believe it / I swear to God, won't spare the rod / I'm a man of my word"
Eelmine link oli UMG poolt bännitud, siin töötav link
Unsensored v:
http://vimeo.com/11339138
yt original version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErCAOMi5EGM
ja lyrics:
"Drop The World"
(feat. Eminem)
[Verse 1: Lil Wayne]
I got ice in my veins, blood in my eyes
Hate in my heart, love in my mind
I seen nights full of pain, days of the same
You keep the sunshine, save me the rain
I search but never find, hurt but never cry
I work and forever try, but I'm cursed so never mind
And it's worse but better times seem further and beyond
The top gets higher, the more that I climb
The spot gets smaller and I get bigger
Tryna get into where I fit in, no room for a nigga
But soon for a nigga it be on motherfucker
Cause all this bullshit, it made me strong motherfucker
[Chorus:]
So I pick the world up and I'm a drop it on your fuckin' head, yeahh!
Bitch, I'm a pick the world up and I'm a drop it on your fuckin' head
(YEAH) And I could die now rebirth mother fucker
Hop up in my spaceship and leave Earth
Motherfucker I'm gone
Motherfucker I'm gone
[Verse 2: Lil Wayne]
Uhhhh!
I know what they don't wanna tell you
Just hope you're heaven sent, and you're hell proof
I walk up in the world and cut the lights off
And confidence is a stain they can't wipe off
Uhhh, my word is my pride
But wisdom is bleak and that's a word from the wise
Served to survive, murdered and bribed
And when it got too heavy I put my burdens aside
[Chorus:]
So I could pick the world up and I'm a drop it on your fuckin' head, ha ha yeahh!
Bitch, I'm a pick the world up and I'm a drop it on your fuckin' head
(YEAH) And I could die now rebirth mother fucker
Hop up in my spaceship and leave Earth
Motherfucker I'm gone
Motherfucker I'm gone
[Eminem:]
I'm gone
[Verse 3: Eminem]
It hurts but I never show, this pain you'll never know
If only you could see just how lonely and how cold
And frostbit I've become, my back's against the wall
When push comes to shove I just stand up and scream 'Fuck 'em all! '
Man it feels like these walls are closin' in
This roof is cavin' in, but it's time to raise it then
Your days are numbered like pages
And my book of rhymes got them crookin' boy
This crooked mind of mine got them all shook
And scared to look in my eyes
I stole that fuckin' clock, I took the time
And I came up from behind and pretty much snuck up
And butt fucked this game up
Better be careful when you bring my name up
Fuck this fame, that ain't what I came to claim
But the game ain't gonna be the same on the day that I leave it
But I swear one way or another I'm a make these fuckin' haters believe it
I swear to God, won't spare the rod
I'm a man of my word, so your fuckin' heads better nod
Or I'm a fuck around in this bitch and roast everybody
Sleep on me that pillow is where your head'll lie
Permanently bitch, it's beddy bye
This world is my Easter egg, yeah prepare to die
My head is swole, my confidence is up
This stage is my pedestal, I'm unstoppable
Incredible hulk you're trapped in my medicine bowl
I could run circles around you so fast your fuckin head'll spin, dawg
I split your cabbage and your lettuce and olives
I'll fuckin'
[Chorus:]
Pick the world up and I'm a drop it on your fuckin' head, yeahh!
Bitch, I'm a pick the world up and I'm a drop it on your fuckin' head
And I could die now rebirth mother fucker
Hop up in my spaceship and leave Earth
Mother fucker I'm gone
Mother fucker I'm gone
I'm gone
But..
"But I swear one way or another I'm a make these fuckin' haters believe it / I swear to God, won't spare the rod / I'm a man of my word"
Eelmine link oli UMG poolt bännitud, siin töötav link
Unsensored v:
http://vimeo.com/11339138
yt original version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErCAOMi5EGM
ja lyrics:
"Drop The World"
(feat. Eminem)
[Verse 1: Lil Wayne]
I got ice in my veins, blood in my eyes
Hate in my heart, love in my mind
I seen nights full of pain, days of the same
You keep the sunshine, save me the rain
I search but never find, hurt but never cry
I work and forever try, but I'm cursed so never mind
And it's worse but better times seem further and beyond
The top gets higher, the more that I climb
The spot gets smaller and I get bigger
Tryna get into where I fit in, no room for a nigga
But soon for a nigga it be on motherfucker
Cause all this bullshit, it made me strong motherfucker
[Chorus:]
So I pick the world up and I'm a drop it on your fuckin' head, yeahh!
Bitch, I'm a pick the world up and I'm a drop it on your fuckin' head
(YEAH) And I could die now rebirth mother fucker
Hop up in my spaceship and leave Earth
Motherfucker I'm gone
Motherfucker I'm gone
[Verse 2: Lil Wayne]
Uhhhh!
I know what they don't wanna tell you
Just hope you're heaven sent, and you're hell proof
I walk up in the world and cut the lights off
And confidence is a stain they can't wipe off
Uhhh, my word is my pride
But wisdom is bleak and that's a word from the wise
Served to survive, murdered and bribed
And when it got too heavy I put my burdens aside
[Chorus:]
So I could pick the world up and I'm a drop it on your fuckin' head, ha ha yeahh!
Bitch, I'm a pick the world up and I'm a drop it on your fuckin' head
(YEAH) And I could die now rebirth mother fucker
Hop up in my spaceship and leave Earth
Motherfucker I'm gone
Motherfucker I'm gone
[Eminem:]
I'm gone
[Verse 3: Eminem]
It hurts but I never show, this pain you'll never know
If only you could see just how lonely and how cold
And frostbit I've become, my back's against the wall
When push comes to shove I just stand up and scream 'Fuck 'em all! '
Man it feels like these walls are closin' in
This roof is cavin' in, but it's time to raise it then
Your days are numbered like pages
And my book of rhymes got them crookin' boy
This crooked mind of mine got them all shook
And scared to look in my eyes
I stole that fuckin' clock, I took the time
And I came up from behind and pretty much snuck up
And butt fucked this game up
Better be careful when you bring my name up
Fuck this fame, that ain't what I came to claim
But the game ain't gonna be the same on the day that I leave it
But I swear one way or another I'm a make these fuckin' haters believe it
I swear to God, won't spare the rod
I'm a man of my word, so your fuckin' heads better nod
Or I'm a fuck around in this bitch and roast everybody
Sleep on me that pillow is where your head'll lie
Permanently bitch, it's beddy bye
This world is my Easter egg, yeah prepare to die
My head is swole, my confidence is up
This stage is my pedestal, I'm unstoppable
Incredible hulk you're trapped in my medicine bowl
I could run circles around you so fast your fuckin head'll spin, dawg
I split your cabbage and your lettuce and olives
I'll fuckin'
[Chorus:]
Pick the world up and I'm a drop it on your fuckin' head, yeahh!
Bitch, I'm a pick the world up and I'm a drop it on your fuckin' head
And I could die now rebirth mother fucker
Hop up in my spaceship and leave Earth
Mother fucker I'm gone
Mother fucker I'm gone
I'm gone
http://vimeo.com/11339138
26 June 2012 23:22
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
ikka naeran veel :D
26 June 2012 22:53
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Miks's post.
ma nagu literally LOL kui seda nägin :D
26 June 2012 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
and one blog, will dig in to this later:
http://www.lakotaperspectives.com
The Labels (Download by just clicking..):
http://www.drbronner.com/pdf/drbronner_32oz_Pep.pdf
http://www.drbronner.com/pdf/drbronner_32oz_Alm.pdf
http://www.drbronner.com/pdf/drbronner_32oz_Baby.pdf
http://www.drbronner.com/pdf/drbronner_32oz_Tea.pdf
http://www.drbronner.com/pdf/drbronner_32oz_Lav.pdf
http://www.drbronner.com/pdf/drbronner_32oz_Euc.pdf
http://www.drbronner.com/pdf/32oz_Citrus_Orange.pdf
http://www.drbronner.com/pdf/32oz_Rose.pdf
- well, have not get in to this jet.. but so far seems on the lines with good outcomes.. :)
http://www.lakotaperspectives.com
The Labels (Download by just clicking..):
http://www.drbronner.com/pdf/drbronner_32oz_Pep.pdf
http://www.drbronner.com/pdf/drbronner_32oz_Alm.pdf
http://www.drbronner.com/pdf/drbronner_32oz_Baby.pdf
http://www.drbronner.com/pdf/drbronner_32oz_Tea.pdf
http://www.drbronner.com/pdf/drbronner_32oz_Lav.pdf
http://www.drbronner.com/pdf/drbronner_32oz_Euc.pdf
http://www.drbronner.com/pdf/32oz_Citrus_Orange.pdf
http://www.drbronner.com/pdf/32oz_Rose.pdf
- well, have not get in to this jet.. but so far seems on the lines with good outcomes.. :)
http://lakotaperspectives.com/Home_Page.html
26 June 2012 22:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
In 2005, David decided he couldn't in good conscience buy raw materials from operations that didn't take labor practices as seriously as he did, so he set a two-year goal of switching all the company's major ingredients to certified fair trade. Only one problem: Nobody could find any certified organic and fair-trade farms that produced some of those ingredients.
The solution: Get into the farming business. By 2008, Dr. Bronner's owned a 200-employee fair-trade coconut-oil operation in Sri Lanka and a 150-employee palm-oil plant in Ghana, and had partnered on a peppermint-oil operation in India. Maybe the most audacious fair-trade project so far has been a partnership that combines olive oils from farmers in the West Bank and Israel, and has become a symbol of Israeli-Palestinian coexistence. Emanuel Bronner would be proud.
Going fair trade hasn't been cheap. In addition to the start-up costs, Dr. Bronner's pays a 10 percent premium, dedicated to community development projects such as digging wells, on top of what it pays farmers for the raw materials they provide. And of course, it has meant another series of battles to establish better standards and fight so-called fairwashing, in which manufacturers use just enough fair-trade ingredients in a product to put a big Fair Trade on the label.
David says without hesitation that the causes he undertakes are more important to him than money. But one of the biggest contributors to the company's healthy bottom line is the awareness that results from its activism. "Because of the activist mission, we've attracted some amazing people and been able to increase our professionalism and expertise in business management—financial reporting, inventory control, sales," he says. "And instead of spending 10 percent of our revenue on advertising, like a regular cosmetic company, we're spending it on activism." And getting the same effect as advertising, anyway.
If David Bronner comes off as a kind of righteous warrior king, his brother, Michael, is more like the king's distant Midwestern relative. Michael, who has short hair and, the day I met him, was wearing a Green Bay Packers jersey, exudes sensibleness. "My brother is mission driven, whereas I'm more product driven," Michael says. "He is looking to pioneer progressive measures that people don't know they want. I am looking at what people want. And the company needs both."
This balancing act has played out perhaps most clearly in Dr. Bronner's efforts to expand into new product categories. Liquid soap has always been the most popular product—it makes up about 75 percent of sales—but it doesn't fit neatly into the way people tend to use liquid soap. It's less viscous than your typical liquid soap, but in fact it's far more concentrated. Whereas most pump soaps are about 10 percent soap and 90 percent water (the viscosity comes from thickeners),Dr. Bronner's is almost 40 percent soap. That's why if you put the soap in a pump bottle, the mechanism will clog, and inevitably soap will squirt out at an unexpected angle, maybe into your eye. (There's actually a warning about this on the bottle.)
"No product engineer or marketer would make a product like this if they were just getting started," Michael says. "Everything about it is unconventional. But that actually puts us in a pretty secure position. What competitor is going to come up with this? And if they do, it's going to be seen as inauthentic."
In addition to the classic liquid and bar soaps, a household cleaner, and a new line of hair care products, Dr. Bronner's has expanded in the past five years into lip balm, body balm, lotion, and shaving gel. Even the most ardent Dr. Bronner's fans might not know this, however, because all the new products were launched with new labels. Gone were all the references to Emanuel and the Moral ABC, even all the dense text, and in their place was a simple picture of two hands clasped in an embrace around the earth. The company went so far as to formulate a new kind of hand soap that worked fine in a pump bottle. It was a strategy cooked up as the company began to expand into mainstream stores.
The new, more mainstream products and labels haven't sold well, however. "You go into Target, and the old label outsells it 10 to 1," David says. "Ten to 1!" It was a case of conventional product design and merchandising simply not working for Dr. Bronner's. Or maybe a case of Dr. Bronner's ignoring the most conventional business wisdom of all: Stick with what works for you. The company has begun replacing all the new labels with a variation of the classic, slightly mad design—only this time with the text talking about hemp, organic ingredients, and fair trade. "We didn't want to take my granddad's thing and treat it as marketing shtick," David says. "We can only do that if it's sincere, and that means it only works on the classic soap."
David, his brother, and his mother say the company can hit $100 million in gross revenue in five years. It's both a realistic goal (the company has averaged 19 percent annual growth in the past five years) and an aggressive one, because it will require more widespread adoption of the company's unconventional products, a big uptick in sales of its new products, and/or significant mainstream retail growth. So far, natural grocers represent about 65 percent of Dr. Bronner's sales. Target, the largest single mainstream retailer, makes up less than 5 percent. The opportunity is obvious. The trick will be to seize it without compromising the company's image or letting big-box stores muscle down prices, which could alienate natural retailers or, worse, compromise the product.
Meanwhile, offers have begun rolling in weekly from suitors that want to buy Dr. Bronner's—to the point that David tosses inquiry letters in the trash without glancing at them. "We see the companies that sold, and sure, they still have a mission," he says. "But what we're doing is pretty radical; this is not feel-good sustainability, buying offsets and crap like that. This is taking on the Drug Enforcement Administration. My intention is never to sell." Exceptions eternally? Absolute none!
Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-04-04/strategy/31285946_1_moral-abc-brands-soap/5#ixzz1ytB5My5D
Legacy from Wiki:
After Bronner's death, his family continued the business. They have said the labels he wrote will not change except when required by government regulations. As of 2009 the Bronner company still lists hemp oil in addition to jojoba oil in the ingredients.
His life was the subject of a 2007 documentary film, Dr. Bronner's Magic Soapbox
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greets, and pick up your own bytes from the text :)
The solution: Get into the farming business. By 2008, Dr. Bronner's owned a 200-employee fair-trade coconut-oil operation in Sri Lanka and a 150-employee palm-oil plant in Ghana, and had partnered on a peppermint-oil operation in India. Maybe the most audacious fair-trade project so far has been a partnership that combines olive oils from farmers in the West Bank and Israel, and has become a symbol of Israeli-Palestinian coexistence. Emanuel Bronner would be proud.
Going fair trade hasn't been cheap. In addition to the start-up costs, Dr. Bronner's pays a 10 percent premium, dedicated to community development projects such as digging wells, on top of what it pays farmers for the raw materials they provide. And of course, it has meant another series of battles to establish better standards and fight so-called fairwashing, in which manufacturers use just enough fair-trade ingredients in a product to put a big Fair Trade on the label.
David says without hesitation that the causes he undertakes are more important to him than money. But one of the biggest contributors to the company's healthy bottom line is the awareness that results from its activism. "Because of the activist mission, we've attracted some amazing people and been able to increase our professionalism and expertise in business management—financial reporting, inventory control, sales," he says. "And instead of spending 10 percent of our revenue on advertising, like a regular cosmetic company, we're spending it on activism." And getting the same effect as advertising, anyway.
If David Bronner comes off as a kind of righteous warrior king, his brother, Michael, is more like the king's distant Midwestern relative. Michael, who has short hair and, the day I met him, was wearing a Green Bay Packers jersey, exudes sensibleness. "My brother is mission driven, whereas I'm more product driven," Michael says. "He is looking to pioneer progressive measures that people don't know they want. I am looking at what people want. And the company needs both."
This balancing act has played out perhaps most clearly in Dr. Bronner's efforts to expand into new product categories. Liquid soap has always been the most popular product—it makes up about 75 percent of sales—but it doesn't fit neatly into the way people tend to use liquid soap. It's less viscous than your typical liquid soap, but in fact it's far more concentrated. Whereas most pump soaps are about 10 percent soap and 90 percent water (the viscosity comes from thickeners),Dr. Bronner's is almost 40 percent soap. That's why if you put the soap in a pump bottle, the mechanism will clog, and inevitably soap will squirt out at an unexpected angle, maybe into your eye. (There's actually a warning about this on the bottle.)
"No product engineer or marketer would make a product like this if they were just getting started," Michael says. "Everything about it is unconventional. But that actually puts us in a pretty secure position. What competitor is going to come up with this? And if they do, it's going to be seen as inauthentic."
In addition to the classic liquid and bar soaps, a household cleaner, and a new line of hair care products, Dr. Bronner's has expanded in the past five years into lip balm, body balm, lotion, and shaving gel. Even the most ardent Dr. Bronner's fans might not know this, however, because all the new products were launched with new labels. Gone were all the references to Emanuel and the Moral ABC, even all the dense text, and in their place was a simple picture of two hands clasped in an embrace around the earth. The company went so far as to formulate a new kind of hand soap that worked fine in a pump bottle. It was a strategy cooked up as the company began to expand into mainstream stores.
The new, more mainstream products and labels haven't sold well, however. "You go into Target, and the old label outsells it 10 to 1," David says. "Ten to 1!" It was a case of conventional product design and merchandising simply not working for Dr. Bronner's. Or maybe a case of Dr. Bronner's ignoring the most conventional business wisdom of all: Stick with what works for you. The company has begun replacing all the new labels with a variation of the classic, slightly mad design—only this time with the text talking about hemp, organic ingredients, and fair trade. "We didn't want to take my granddad's thing and treat it as marketing shtick," David says. "We can only do that if it's sincere, and that means it only works on the classic soap."
David, his brother, and his mother say the company can hit $100 million in gross revenue in five years. It's both a realistic goal (the company has averaged 19 percent annual growth in the past five years) and an aggressive one, because it will require more widespread adoption of the company's unconventional products, a big uptick in sales of its new products, and/or significant mainstream retail growth. So far, natural grocers represent about 65 percent of Dr. Bronner's sales. Target, the largest single mainstream retailer, makes up less than 5 percent. The opportunity is obvious. The trick will be to seize it without compromising the company's image or letting big-box stores muscle down prices, which could alienate natural retailers or, worse, compromise the product.
Meanwhile, offers have begun rolling in weekly from suitors that want to buy Dr. Bronner's—to the point that David tosses inquiry letters in the trash without glancing at them. "We see the companies that sold, and sure, they still have a mission," he says. "But what we're doing is pretty radical; this is not feel-good sustainability, buying offsets and crap like that. This is taking on the Drug Enforcement Administration. My intention is never to sell." Exceptions eternally? Absolute none!
Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-04-04/strategy/31285946_1_moral-abc-brands-soap/5#ixzz1ytB5My5D
Legacy from Wiki:
After Bronner's death, his family continued the business. They have said the labels he wrote will not change except when required by government regulations. As of 2009 the Bronner company still lists hemp oil in addition to jojoba oil in the ingredients.
His life was the subject of a 2007 documentary film, Dr. Bronner's Magic Soapbox
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greets, and pick up your own bytes from the text :)
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-04-04/strategy/31285946_1_moral-abc-brands-soap
26 June 2012 22:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
For years, Dr. Bronner's soap had included an undisclosed ingredient, caramel coloring. It would be unacceptable, David decided in 1999, to keep the coloring and not start listing it on the label. But it would be equally unacceptable to start listing an unnecessary ingredient; die-hard customers would assume the new guy was compromising the soap's integrity. Just pulling the ingredient wasn't an option, either, because customers would notice the change in color and assume he was diluting the soap. The answer, he decided, was to pull the caramel coloring but take the opportunity to add something better: hemp oil, which would create smoother lather. Even if people noticed the color change, they might also notice the improved skin-feel.
The change came a year into David's tenure, and it was a pivotal moment, because it allowed him to use the company as a platform to talk about issues that didn't really have to do with the soap, much as his grandfather had. "One of the reasons we liked hemp was that it was at the nexus of a bunch of hot issues," David says. "Environmental issues, and also drug policy." Hemp is a remarkably useful plant: It's a good dietary source of omega-3 fatty acids; it can easily be cultivated without pesticides; its fiber is especially strong; and, as Dr. Bronner's had found, its oil is a good natural additive in soap. The Drug Enforcement Administration had a long history of conflating hemp with marijuana, though, and that was just the kind of thing that got David worked up. Adding hemp to his product would be a nice middle finger to the government.
He took things a step further in 2001, when the Bush administration started seizing shipments of hemp seed and hemp oil at the Canadian border. David decided to lead the industrial hemp industry in suing the DEA, and undertook a series of publicity stunts such as serving samples of hemp granola and poppy-seed bagels from a booth outside the DEA's headquarters—the logic being that there was no reason to treat industrial hemp, which has only trace amounts of the intoxicant THC, any differently from poppy seeds, which have trace amounts of opium. After a long series of legal skirmishes, the agency reversed the policy.
Filing lawsuits is now a semiregular part of business at Dr. Bronner's as the company stakes out its market position as the purest product out there and then guards it like a German shepherd. Perhaps most prominently, David decided in 2008 to sue a bunch of his competitors—including Estée Lauder, Jason, and Kiss My Face—for falsely advertising their products as organic. Dr. Bronner's had spent years fighting to become one of the first major personal-care brands certified under the U.S. Department of Agriculture's National Organic Program. But because the USDA didn't (and doesn't) have any rules preventing personal-care brands from calling their products organic or natural by whatever standards they chose to follow, pseudo-organic brands were able to undercut Dr. Bronner's. The battle effectively ended when Whole Foods stepped in and gave the offending companies an ultimatum: Clean up your act within 12 months, or you're out of our stores.
While Dr. Bronner's was busy dragging the rest of its industry into organic integrity, David decided to set the bar even higher for his company. Fair labor practices had long been a core issue for the company, going back to a concept Emanuel liked to talk about called Constructive Capitalism, which held that you should "share the profit with the workers and the earth from which you made it." In 2001, David, Michael, and their mother, Trudy Bronner, who is the company's CFO, sat down to codify how they would put the concept into action. To the company's already generous benefits (fully paid health plan, a retirement-plan contribution equal to 15 percent of salary), they added 25 percent annual bonuses for full-time employees. The highest executive salary is capped at five times the salary of the lowest-paid warehouse employee, meaning David makes about $200,000 a year.
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wander.. .what is that dollars compared to the meaning of the messages, on the box ?
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The change came a year into David's tenure, and it was a pivotal moment, because it allowed him to use the company as a platform to talk about issues that didn't really have to do with the soap, much as his grandfather had. "One of the reasons we liked hemp was that it was at the nexus of a bunch of hot issues," David says. "Environmental issues, and also drug policy." Hemp is a remarkably useful plant: It's a good dietary source of omega-3 fatty acids; it can easily be cultivated without pesticides; its fiber is especially strong; and, as Dr. Bronner's had found, its oil is a good natural additive in soap. The Drug Enforcement Administration had a long history of conflating hemp with marijuana, though, and that was just the kind of thing that got David worked up. Adding hemp to his product would be a nice middle finger to the government.
He took things a step further in 2001, when the Bush administration started seizing shipments of hemp seed and hemp oil at the Canadian border. David decided to lead the industrial hemp industry in suing the DEA, and undertook a series of publicity stunts such as serving samples of hemp granola and poppy-seed bagels from a booth outside the DEA's headquarters—the logic being that there was no reason to treat industrial hemp, which has only trace amounts of the intoxicant THC, any differently from poppy seeds, which have trace amounts of opium. After a long series of legal skirmishes, the agency reversed the policy.
Filing lawsuits is now a semiregular part of business at Dr. Bronner's as the company stakes out its market position as the purest product out there and then guards it like a German shepherd. Perhaps most prominently, David decided in 2008 to sue a bunch of his competitors—including Estée Lauder, Jason, and Kiss My Face—for falsely advertising their products as organic. Dr. Bronner's had spent years fighting to become one of the first major personal-care brands certified under the U.S. Department of Agriculture's National Organic Program. But because the USDA didn't (and doesn't) have any rules preventing personal-care brands from calling their products organic or natural by whatever standards they chose to follow, pseudo-organic brands were able to undercut Dr. Bronner's. The battle effectively ended when Whole Foods stepped in and gave the offending companies an ultimatum: Clean up your act within 12 months, or you're out of our stores.
While Dr. Bronner's was busy dragging the rest of its industry into organic integrity, David decided to set the bar even higher for his company. Fair labor practices had long been a core issue for the company, going back to a concept Emanuel liked to talk about called Constructive Capitalism, which held that you should "share the profit with the workers and the earth from which you made it." In 2001, David, Michael, and their mother, Trudy Bronner, who is the company's CFO, sat down to codify how they would put the concept into action. To the company's already generous benefits (fully paid health plan, a retirement-plan contribution equal to 15 percent of salary), they added 25 percent annual bonuses for full-time employees. The highest executive salary is capped at five times the salary of the lowest-paid warehouse employee, meaning David makes about $200,000 a year.
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wander.. .what is that dollars compared to the meaning of the messages, on the box ?
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26 June 2012 22:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"The DNA of this company is, my grandfather ran it as basically a nonprofit religious organization—which it was only to him," says David. When the IRS finally caught up to him, it turned out Emanuel owed $1.3 million in back taxes, and in 1985, the company was forced into bankruptcy. Emanuel was suffering from Parkinson's disease and had gone blind, and at this crucial juncture also had pneumonia. The company would have disappeared had it not been for his son Jim (David's father), who set aside his resentment for how he had been raised and stepped in to right the ship
David Bronner is wearing a red Dr. Bronner's polo shirt, baggy black hemp chinos with a rasta stripe on the pocket, and a black windbreaker emblazoned with a logo for Proposition 19, the failed 2010 California ballot initiative to legalize marijuana. We're sitting in his office at Dr. Bronner's world headquarters, a warren of low buildings off Highway 78, just north of San Diego. There's an orange velour sofa against the bright blue wall, a few car-stereo parts stacked on the floor, and a copy of A Confederacy of Dunces on the desk.
David didn't grow up wanting to run this company. His father, Jim, a successful industrial chemist, was nothing like Emanuel, and David was raised in a conservative household in suburban L.A., where he had scant contact with his eccentric grandfather. "You couldn't talk to him on a human level," David remembers. "It was just these tirades. 'Why are we not talking about uniting Spaceship Earth? What's more important?'
"My dad was much more down to earth. He didn't care about all the cosmic stuff. As soon as my grandfather would start talking about it, he'd be like, 'I don't want to hear that crap!'"
David left California for Harvard and graduated with a biology degree in 1995, after which he decided to set out with a Eurail pass for a few months of adventure. His second stop was Amsterdam, and that's where things started to change for him.
"There are all these squat communities in Amsterdam, with this interesting international spectrum of people living in abandoned buildings," David says. "I got sucked into the scene." He moved into a squat with a marijuana farm on the top floor and let go of his former identity. He was becoming radicalized politically and socially by the people he met, and having what he calls "huge psychedelic experiences that just blew me wide open"—drug-fueled reflections on things such as truth and hypocrisy, U.S. drug policy, and his purpose in life.
"My poor parents," he says now. After a few months, he flew home to California with a pierced tongue, a new vegetarian diet, and a plan to sell all his possessions and move back to Amsterdam as quickly as possible to start growing cannabis for a living. The plan didn't stick, and he soon found himself back in Cambridge, voraciously reading about Eastern religions while his girlfriend, Kris Lin (now Kris Lin-Bronner), finished school. For the first time, he started to think seriously about his grandfather's company and recognized that it could be a platform for his newfound radicalism.
When Lin got pregnant and the couple decided they would marry and move to California, David went to visit Emanuel, whose Parkinson's had advanced to the point that he had finally stepped away from the company for good. (Jim, who had kept a distance from the company after getting it on solid footing, was again in control.) "He was pretty far gone at that point, so he was much easier to deal with," David remembers. "I was sitting there, combing his hair, and he was smiling back at me. I told him I had reached a state of understanding of my own belief system, and that it led me to finally understand his whole thing. 'You've been saying it! All that crazy stuff!' "
Emanuel died on March 7, 1997, the same day David and Kris's daughter was born. A month later, David, who was 24, told his father he was ready to work in the family business. Just months after that, Jim Bronner was found to have Stage 4 lung cancer. A year later, Jim passed away.
"There's nothing more elegant than a properly formulated soap. It's the most beautiful lather, great skin-feel, great after-feel. You could basically eat our soap," David says, and pauses. "But I wouldn't recommend it. You could eat the raw materials. You could brush your teeth with it." He's trying to explain the difference between a true soap, like Dr. Bronner's, and the soaplike detergent products most of us use every day—the beauty bars and body washes of the world.
At its most basic, the difference is natural ingredients versus synthetic ones. Soaps and detergents are roughly equally effective at cleaning stuff, but most detergents are made at least in part from nonrenewable petrochemicals (because it's cheaper that way) and include a chemical cocktail of foaming agents, preservatives, and fragrances that, by and large, have never been tested and found safe for human consumption.
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seriously will need to re-cut this article later but lets copy rest of it
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Within the world of real soaps, there are other levels of purity that separate the brands. Most mass-produced soaps are made with animal fats such as tallow (beef fat) or lard (pig or mutton fat). Ivory soap, for instance, is made with tallow. Natural soaps are made with nonanimal fats such as olive oil, coconut oil, and palm oil.
The distinction between fake soaps and natural soaps is at the root of what drove David Bronner to join the company, and it's what continues to drive him today—call it truth in soap. Indeed, to trace the company's history under David is to follow a quest to achieve ever-increasing levels of purity.
David Bronner is wearing a red Dr. Bronner's polo shirt, baggy black hemp chinos with a rasta stripe on the pocket, and a black windbreaker emblazoned with a logo for Proposition 19, the failed 2010 California ballot initiative to legalize marijuana. We're sitting in his office at Dr. Bronner's world headquarters, a warren of low buildings off Highway 78, just north of San Diego. There's an orange velour sofa against the bright blue wall, a few car-stereo parts stacked on the floor, and a copy of A Confederacy of Dunces on the desk.
David didn't grow up wanting to run this company. His father, Jim, a successful industrial chemist, was nothing like Emanuel, and David was raised in a conservative household in suburban L.A., where he had scant contact with his eccentric grandfather. "You couldn't talk to him on a human level," David remembers. "It was just these tirades. 'Why are we not talking about uniting Spaceship Earth? What's more important?'
"My dad was much more down to earth. He didn't care about all the cosmic stuff. As soon as my grandfather would start talking about it, he'd be like, 'I don't want to hear that crap!'"
David left California for Harvard and graduated with a biology degree in 1995, after which he decided to set out with a Eurail pass for a few months of adventure. His second stop was Amsterdam, and that's where things started to change for him.
"There are all these squat communities in Amsterdam, with this interesting international spectrum of people living in abandoned buildings," David says. "I got sucked into the scene." He moved into a squat with a marijuana farm on the top floor and let go of his former identity. He was becoming radicalized politically and socially by the people he met, and having what he calls "huge psychedelic experiences that just blew me wide open"—drug-fueled reflections on things such as truth and hypocrisy, U.S. drug policy, and his purpose in life.
"My poor parents," he says now. After a few months, he flew home to California with a pierced tongue, a new vegetarian diet, and a plan to sell all his possessions and move back to Amsterdam as quickly as possible to start growing cannabis for a living. The plan didn't stick, and he soon found himself back in Cambridge, voraciously reading about Eastern religions while his girlfriend, Kris Lin (now Kris Lin-Bronner), finished school. For the first time, he started to think seriously about his grandfather's company and recognized that it could be a platform for his newfound radicalism.
When Lin got pregnant and the couple decided they would marry and move to California, David went to visit Emanuel, whose Parkinson's had advanced to the point that he had finally stepped away from the company for good. (Jim, who had kept a distance from the company after getting it on solid footing, was again in control.) "He was pretty far gone at that point, so he was much easier to deal with," David remembers. "I was sitting there, combing his hair, and he was smiling back at me. I told him I had reached a state of understanding of my own belief system, and that it led me to finally understand his whole thing. 'You've been saying it! All that crazy stuff!' "
Emanuel died on March 7, 1997, the same day David and Kris's daughter was born. A month later, David, who was 24, told his father he was ready to work in the family business. Just months after that, Jim Bronner was found to have Stage 4 lung cancer. A year later, Jim passed away.
"There's nothing more elegant than a properly formulated soap. It's the most beautiful lather, great skin-feel, great after-feel. You could basically eat our soap," David says, and pauses. "But I wouldn't recommend it. You could eat the raw materials. You could brush your teeth with it." He's trying to explain the difference between a true soap, like Dr. Bronner's, and the soaplike detergent products most of us use every day—the beauty bars and body washes of the world.
At its most basic, the difference is natural ingredients versus synthetic ones. Soaps and detergents are roughly equally effective at cleaning stuff, but most detergents are made at least in part from nonrenewable petrochemicals (because it's cheaper that way) and include a chemical cocktail of foaming agents, preservatives, and fragrances that, by and large, have never been tested and found safe for human consumption.
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seriously will need to re-cut this article later but lets copy rest of it
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Within the world of real soaps, there are other levels of purity that separate the brands. Most mass-produced soaps are made with animal fats such as tallow (beef fat) or lard (pig or mutton fat). Ivory soap, for instance, is made with tallow. Natural soaps are made with nonanimal fats such as olive oil, coconut oil, and palm oil.
The distinction between fake soaps and natural soaps is at the root of what drove David Bronner to join the company, and it's what continues to drive him today—call it truth in soap. Indeed, to trace the company's history under David is to follow a quest to achieve ever-increasing levels of purity.
26 June 2012 22:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The 140y - was an error, but hey.. who knows, perhaps the roots are older then us. Hemp usage for sure is.
The Bizarre Story Behind Dr. Bronner's Magic Soap
There's a common narrative that unfolds the first time you buy Dr. Bronner's Magic Soap. It starts in the store, where the bottles, with their brightly colored, text-heavy labels, line up like cure-alls from some deranged medicine man. You pick one up. Later, in the shower, there comes a curious tingling sensation after you've lathered up your nether regions. That's when you reach for the bottle again to give it a closer read.
There are quotes from Mao, Jesus, Hillel, Einstein, and George Washington, among others. There's something called the Moral ABC, which appears to be a philosophy for uniting all humans on Spaceship Earth. There's a lot of religious ranting, a liberal dose of exclamation points, and instructions for cleansing your "mind-body-soul-spirit instantly."
Now you're more curious than ever. And if you read enough of the label and happen to Google Dr. Bronner after you've toweled off, you'll discover the story of the late Emanuel Bronner, which reads like bizarro fiction. (We'll get to it shortly.) That story is just the beginning.
The Bronner's story also happens to be the tale of the top-selling organic liquid and bar soap brand in North America. Dr. Bronner's notched more than $44 million in sales in 2011. It has grown well over 1,000 percent in the past 12 years. The company's president since 1998, 38-year-old David Bronner, is a ponytailed marijuana activist who drives a rainbow Mercedes that runs on French fry grease. David is the grandson of Emanuel Bronner, and, along with his younger brother, Michael, he has turned Dr. Bronner's into an instantly recognizable brand and a pioneer in sustainable business, from its vertically integrated organic and fair-trade supply chain to its highly progressive labor practices—all without spending a dime on advertising.
By remaining independent at a time when other hippie-ish personal-care brands such as Burt's Bees and Tom's of Maine have been bought up by major consumer-goods companies (Clorox and Colgate-Palmolive, respectively), Dr. Bronner's has been able to pursue a kind of radical purity that defies conventional business logic.
But first, some background.
Emanuel Bronner was a third-generation Jewish master soapmaker from the small town of Heilbronn, Germany. (The Bronner family, known in Germany as the Heilbronners, commercialized liquid soap.) Alarmed by the rise of the Nazis, Emanuel immigrated to Milwaukee in 1929, at 21, to start consulting for American soap companies.
A self-styled philosopher, Emanuel responded to the Nazis by traveling around the U.S., lecturing about a plan he had been developing for achieving world peace—the Moral ABC, he called it. The basic idea was simple: If people would stop focusing on their religious and ethnic differences and find common ground, we would all be better off. We're all humans, and we all have to share this Spaceship Earth. It was a timely message, despite its wacko undertones, and he started drawing crowds.
Tragedy struck in the 1940s. First, Emanuel got word that his parents, who had stayed behind in Germany, were killed in Nazi death camps. Then, his wife, the mother of their two sons and one daughter, fell ill and died. As he always did, Emanuel responded by diving deeper into the Moral ABC—to the extent that he put his children in foster care so he could continue lecturing without the distractions of fatherhood.
To an unsuspecting bystander, Emanuel couldn't have seemed like a stable guy. His speaking style was laced with bursts of shouting that, in his clipped German accent, could sound almost violent. In 1947, he was arrested in Chicago after giving a public talk without a permit and was committed to a mental institution, where he underwent shock treatments. He escaped and made his way to Southern California, where he started calling himself a rabbi and a doctor and alleged that he was Albert Einstein's nephew (none of which was true).
As he picked up his lecturing again around L.A., he started giving away bottles of his family-recipe peppermint soap on the side. Eventually, he realized that people were showing up for the soap and not sticking around to listen to him, so he started printing his message on the bottles and selling them. Dr. Bronner's Magic Soap was born. The Moral ABC grew into a 30,000-word screed that Emanuel would fine-tune every day for the rest of his life, dictating passages to his loyal assistant until he achieved the optimal levels of outrage, poetry, and staccato punctuation.
As a business, Dr. Bronner's never achieved the same level of polish as its famous labels. The soaps had a brief moment of popularity in the late 1960s—hippies dug the all-one message, and it turned out the versatile soap was useful for outdoor bathing—but the company stagnated in the ensuing years. Annual sales hovered around $1 million for decades, until, in the early 1980s, everything very nearly came to an end.
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but not quite... :)
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The Bizarre Story Behind Dr. Bronner's Magic Soap
There's a common narrative that unfolds the first time you buy Dr. Bronner's Magic Soap. It starts in the store, where the bottles, with their brightly colored, text-heavy labels, line up like cure-alls from some deranged medicine man. You pick one up. Later, in the shower, there comes a curious tingling sensation after you've lathered up your nether regions. That's when you reach for the bottle again to give it a closer read.
There are quotes from Mao, Jesus, Hillel, Einstein, and George Washington, among others. There's something called the Moral ABC, which appears to be a philosophy for uniting all humans on Spaceship Earth. There's a lot of religious ranting, a liberal dose of exclamation points, and instructions for cleansing your "mind-body-soul-spirit instantly."
Now you're more curious than ever. And if you read enough of the label and happen to Google Dr. Bronner after you've toweled off, you'll discover the story of the late Emanuel Bronner, which reads like bizarro fiction. (We'll get to it shortly.) That story is just the beginning.
The Bronner's story also happens to be the tale of the top-selling organic liquid and bar soap brand in North America. Dr. Bronner's notched more than $44 million in sales in 2011. It has grown well over 1,000 percent in the past 12 years. The company's president since 1998, 38-year-old David Bronner, is a ponytailed marijuana activist who drives a rainbow Mercedes that runs on French fry grease. David is the grandson of Emanuel Bronner, and, along with his younger brother, Michael, he has turned Dr. Bronner's into an instantly recognizable brand and a pioneer in sustainable business, from its vertically integrated organic and fair-trade supply chain to its highly progressive labor practices—all without spending a dime on advertising.
By remaining independent at a time when other hippie-ish personal-care brands such as Burt's Bees and Tom's of Maine have been bought up by major consumer-goods companies (Clorox and Colgate-Palmolive, respectively), Dr. Bronner's has been able to pursue a kind of radical purity that defies conventional business logic.
But first, some background.
Emanuel Bronner was a third-generation Jewish master soapmaker from the small town of Heilbronn, Germany. (The Bronner family, known in Germany as the Heilbronners, commercialized liquid soap.) Alarmed by the rise of the Nazis, Emanuel immigrated to Milwaukee in 1929, at 21, to start consulting for American soap companies.
A self-styled philosopher, Emanuel responded to the Nazis by traveling around the U.S., lecturing about a plan he had been developing for achieving world peace—the Moral ABC, he called it. The basic idea was simple: If people would stop focusing on their religious and ethnic differences and find common ground, we would all be better off. We're all humans, and we all have to share this Spaceship Earth. It was a timely message, despite its wacko undertones, and he started drawing crowds.
Tragedy struck in the 1940s. First, Emanuel got word that his parents, who had stayed behind in Germany, were killed in Nazi death camps. Then, his wife, the mother of their two sons and one daughter, fell ill and died. As he always did, Emanuel responded by diving deeper into the Moral ABC—to the extent that he put his children in foster care so he could continue lecturing without the distractions of fatherhood.
To an unsuspecting bystander, Emanuel couldn't have seemed like a stable guy. His speaking style was laced with bursts of shouting that, in his clipped German accent, could sound almost violent. In 1947, he was arrested in Chicago after giving a public talk without a permit and was committed to a mental institution, where he underwent shock treatments. He escaped and made his way to Southern California, where he started calling himself a rabbi and a doctor and alleged that he was Albert Einstein's nephew (none of which was true).
As he picked up his lecturing again around L.A., he started giving away bottles of his family-recipe peppermint soap on the side. Eventually, he realized that people were showing up for the soap and not sticking around to listen to him, so he started printing his message on the bottles and selling them. Dr. Bronner's Magic Soap was born. The Moral ABC grew into a 30,000-word screed that Emanuel would fine-tune every day for the rest of his life, dictating passages to his loyal assistant until he achieved the optimal levels of outrage, poetry, and staccato punctuation.
As a business, Dr. Bronner's never achieved the same level of polish as its famous labels. The soaps had a brief moment of popularity in the late 1960s—hippies dug the all-one message, and it turned out the versatile soap was useful for outdoor bathing—but the company stagnated in the ensuing years. Annual sales hovered around $1 million for decades, until, in the early 1980s, everything very nearly came to an end.
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but not quite... :)
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26 June 2012 22:05
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
- means pointing out problems, with to few solutions that we can use
..just by now first time reading about Dr http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-04-04/strategy/31285946_1_moral-abc-brands-soap - healthy dosage of what was needed in to my day Laurie - is there lots more known (with directions, success, value of ideas..) like that? Lets collectˇem all for times that come, by doing it.. ..or is there (known) lists up in net of (really) good businesses?
//will go to cook few pancakes then in to my review of Quaˇran.., helps me to get de-confused.. today is a bit rainy day but not directly not-good way...By any chance, do we have an ideas about this Q texts as well? and most importantly - What about big slim pan cakes ? :) //
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shine day by getting back to me any time, anytime that's before the ˇlateˇ - if there can be late in times where whatever still matters in this trial of ours :)
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..just by now first time reading about Dr http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-04-04/strategy/31285946_1_moral-abc-brands-soap - healthy dosage of what was needed in to my day Laurie - is there lots more known (with directions, success, value of ideas..) like that? Lets collectˇem all for times that come, by doing it.. ..or is there (known) lists up in net of (really) good businesses?
//will go to cook few pancakes then in to my review of Quaˇran.., helps me to get de-confused.. today is a bit rainy day but not directly not-good way...By any chance, do we have an ideas about this Q texts as well? and most importantly - What about big slim pan cakes ? :) //
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shine day by getting back to me any time, anytime that's before the ˇlateˇ - if there can be late in times where whatever still matters in this trial of ours :)
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http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-04-04/strategy/31285946_1_moral-abc-brands-soap
25 June 2012 23:25
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
(: perhaps should not write comments on day after, comes out a bit like depressive rambling
25 June 2012 22:07
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
Well, long article it is indeed,..
for an age of twitter.
for finding ideas
Why the show runners do not ask, what are the big portal systems doing, for making life better, do they, Really do their best ? (all this Great statistical information, our likes and.. Huge amount of data, about humans, huge tools to get offline data.. newer before, in our StoryAge we have had no options like that..)
...Its by so far from it, what could be done... how to even fit it in to the sentence with out going mad
like mad in bought ways
But yeah.. rebuilding a WorldPeace On Earth, would be pretty reasonable idea that can be done
but will we,
will, I
for an age of twitter.
for finding ideas
Why the show runners do not ask, what are the big portal systems doing, for making life better, do they, Really do their best ? (all this Great statistical information, our likes and.. Huge amount of data, about humans, huge tools to get offline data.. newer before, in our StoryAge we have had no options like that..)
...Its by so far from it, what could be done... how to even fit it in to the sentence with out going mad
like mad in bought ways
But yeah.. rebuilding a WorldPeace On Earth, would be pretty reasonable idea that can be done
but will we,
will, I
25 June 2012 21:46
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
and i need help, in fact :)
25 June 2012 21:39
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's post.
For my lack of language ..
can you explain it once more, ? :)
can you explain it once more, ? :)
25 June 2012 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on Myrtle Brooder's link.
well... perhaps High,alive, instead ...stoned?
is it just me... my translation of meanings.. or does Stoned.. sound like Really inviting activity to get in to many times, not?
/actually just had kind of glass cup as this guy in video with plant dust and oil, come in to my life from mysterious ways.., was great help one night before /
is it just me... my translation of meanings.. or does Stoned.. sound like Really inviting activity to get in to many times, not?
/actually just had kind of glass cup as this guy in video with plant dust and oil, come in to my life from mysterious ways.., was great help one night before /
25 June 2012 21:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Seekers can also lock you up in to newer ending loop of life pain, seems to be.. but then again, back then it seemed good :)
25 June 2012 20:39
Margus Meigo commented on Tobias Anand Schneider's post.
about when will we see? :)
25 June 2012 20:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
No idea why i copy this here, but here it is:
The Shadow People, 2012, and the Quickening
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWOiSflrAv4
".. so.. you are saying, there is nothing particularly positive about their presents..?"
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2012/03/the-lurking-shadow-people/
http://libertarianalliance.wordpress.com/2012/01/26/shadow-people-attacks-on-humans-increasing/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_people
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/column.php?id=97317
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/686
http://www.unknown-creatures.com/shadow-people.html
The Shadow People, 2012, and the Quickening
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWOiSflrAv4
".. so.. you are saying, there is nothing particularly positive about their presents..?"
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2012/03/the-lurking-shadow-people/
http://libertarianalliance.wordpress.com/2012/01/26/shadow-people-attacks-on-humans-increasing/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_people
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/column.php?id=97317
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/686
http://www.unknown-creatures.com/shadow-people.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWOiSflrAv4
21 June 2012 07:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
and lets not forget the social hacking... :)
To show a wide direction of hackers, in real life. It can be your kid - building a new device from your home juicer ,or guy making cool sexy led lights powered by iPhone for girlfriend bedroom to get mood going..
Some sweet links, safe to visit, for cool stuf u can make in ur home,
and for sure, bookmark this website, you will love it: http://lifehacker.com/science/ (look at the other categories)
and some others,
Cool stuff to make your own:
http://hacknmod.com/
Some a bit more cooler stuff:
http://www.hack247.co.uk/
Some more, lots more cool stuff:
http://zedomax.com/blog/
Lots more cool stuff to make with family:
http://makezine.com/
More geeki stuff:
http://hackedgadgets.com/
And why not:
http://i-hacked.com/
http://hackaday.com/category/chemistry-hacks/
Basic computer software tips and some other nifty stuff sometimes:
http://www.ghacks.net/category/windows/
By describing any one of it... will discriminate thousands of others, and will not wanna do that, just take look at these entertainment videos.. and other.. surely will come to some ideas - only if you take look at the website list, in here and the gadgets there, as we not just talking about software and security hacking :)
To show a wide direction of hackers, in real life. It can be your kid - building a new device from your home juicer ,or guy making cool sexy led lights powered by iPhone for girlfriend bedroom to get mood going..
Some sweet links, safe to visit, for cool stuf u can make in ur home,
and for sure, bookmark this website, you will love it: http://lifehacker.com/science/ (look at the other categories)
and some others,
Cool stuff to make your own:
http://hacknmod.com/
Some a bit more cooler stuff:
http://www.hack247.co.uk/
Some more, lots more cool stuff:
http://zedomax.com/blog/
Lots more cool stuff to make with family:
http://makezine.com/
More geeki stuff:
http://hackedgadgets.com/
And why not:
http://i-hacked.com/
http://hackaday.com/category/chemistry-hacks/
Basic computer software tips and some other nifty stuff sometimes:
http://www.ghacks.net/category/windows/
By describing any one of it... will discriminate thousands of others, and will not wanna do that, just take look at these entertainment videos.. and other.. surely will come to some ideas - only if you take look at the website list, in here and the gadgets there, as we not just talking about software and security hacking :)
http://lifehacker.com/science/
21 June 2012 07:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Revolution OS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjaC8Pq9-V0
Official Website of http://www.revolution-os.com/
IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0308808/
Wikiepdia:
Der Film führt einen nahtlosen geschichtlichen Bogen über die Evolution von GNU/Linux, von den Anfängen -- als Software auf Papierbändern zum Preis eines Biers kopiert wurde und Bill Gates in den 70ern anfing, proprietäre Programme in BASIC für von Computerhobbyisten verwendete Kleinstcomputer zu schreiben und diese in einem bitterlichen Brief aufforderte, Software zu kaufen statt zu tauschen -- bis zu Richard Stallman und einer Beschreibung dessen, was ihn motivierte, seine Stelle am MIT aufzugeben und sein Leben fortan der Entwicklung Freier Software zu widmen.
Michael Tiemann erklärt in der Wüste, wie er von Stallman eine sehr frühe Version von dessen GNU C-Compiler bekam, und ihn weiterentwickelte.
Larry Augustin beschreibt am Originalschauplatz, einem amerikanischen Universitätscampus, wie er sich mit dem von Stallman gegründeten GNU-Projekt und einem normalen Personal Computer eine leistungsfähige UNIX-Workstation bauen konnte, die ihn ein Drittel des Preises einer Workstation von Sun Microsystems kostete, aber das Doppelte leistete, und wie daraus die Firma VA Linux wurde, deren Börsengang im Film ebenfalls lebhaft mitverfolgt wird.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjaC8Pq9-V0
Official Website of http://www.revolution-os.com/
IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0308808/
Wikiepdia:
Der Film führt einen nahtlosen geschichtlichen Bogen über die Evolution von GNU/Linux, von den Anfängen -- als Software auf Papierbändern zum Preis eines Biers kopiert wurde und Bill Gates in den 70ern anfing, proprietäre Programme in BASIC für von Computerhobbyisten verwendete Kleinstcomputer zu schreiben und diese in einem bitterlichen Brief aufforderte, Software zu kaufen statt zu tauschen -- bis zu Richard Stallman und einer Beschreibung dessen, was ihn motivierte, seine Stelle am MIT aufzugeben und sein Leben fortan der Entwicklung Freier Software zu widmen.
Michael Tiemann erklärt in der Wüste, wie er von Stallman eine sehr frühe Version von dessen GNU C-Compiler bekam, und ihn weiterentwickelte.
Larry Augustin beschreibt am Originalschauplatz, einem amerikanischen Universitätscampus, wie er sich mit dem von Stallman gegründeten GNU-Projekt und einem normalen Personal Computer eine leistungsfähige UNIX-Workstation bauen konnte, die ihn ein Drittel des Preises einer Workstation von Sun Microsystems kostete, aber das Doppelte leistete, und wie daraus die Firma VA Linux wurde, deren Börsengang im Film ebenfalls lebhaft mitverfolgt wird.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjaC8Pq9-V0
21 June 2012 07:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Hackers Wanted (2008) Full
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ8qmp_qJtk
Directed and written by Sam Bozzo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ8qmp_qJtk
Directed and written by Sam Bozzo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ8qmp_qJtk
21 June 2012 07:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kevin Mitnick Interviews Steve Wozniak on Coast to Coast AM 2006
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO2-oLpU9ag
A complete Coast to Coast AM program with Kevin Mitnick filling in for Art Bell. Kevin interviews Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak starting in the second hour. In the first hour, Mitnick was joined by Alex Kasper and Devon for a discussion about phishing-- fraudulent Internet techniques that attempt to acquire sensitive information from computer users. Originally aired April 30th, 2006.
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO2-oLpU9ag
A complete Coast to Coast AM program with Kevin Mitnick filling in for Art Bell. Kevin interviews Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak starting in the second hour. In the first hour, Mitnick was joined by Alex Kasper and Devon for a discussion about phishing-- fraudulent Internet techniques that attempt to acquire sensitive information from computer users. Originally aired April 30th, 2006.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO2-oLpU9ag
21 June 2012 07:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kevin Mitnick - The Art of Deception
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDtESTnduTE
Kevin Mitnick - The Art of Deception and promoting his other book "The Art of Intrusion"
awww... almoust had forget this show.. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDtESTnduTE
Kevin Mitnick - The Art of Deception and promoting his other book "The Art of Intrusion"
awww... almoust had forget this show.. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDtESTnduTE
21 June 2012 07:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The Advanced Persistent Threat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tiwnx6r-VnE
Talk given by Michael K. Daly, Director of Enterprise Security Services for Raytheon Company, at the 23rd Large Installation System Administration Conference (LISA '09).
Critical infrastructures and the governments, corporations, and individuals supporting them are under attack by increasingly sophisticated cyber threats from hostile entities. Their goal is to gain access to intellectual property, personally identifiable information, financial data, and targeted strategic information. This is not simple fraud or hacking. It is intellectual property theft and infrastructure corruption on a grand scale. This talk will discuss the ways operators of national critical infrastructure are working to combat these threats and the collaborative partnerships that have been formed to strengthen our collective defenses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tiwnx6r-VnE
Talk given by Michael K. Daly, Director of Enterprise Security Services for Raytheon Company, at the 23rd Large Installation System Administration Conference (LISA '09).
Critical infrastructures and the governments, corporations, and individuals supporting them are under attack by increasingly sophisticated cyber threats from hostile entities. Their goal is to gain access to intellectual property, personally identifiable information, financial data, and targeted strategic information. This is not simple fraud or hacking. It is intellectual property theft and infrastructure corruption on a grand scale. This talk will discuss the ways operators of national critical infrastructure are working to combat these threats and the collaborative partnerships that have been formed to strengthen our collective defenses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tiwnx6r-VnE
21 June 2012 07:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The future of the security Industry. Bruce Schneier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFbET4aQHAA&feature=related
Mr. Bruce Schneier, Chief Security Technology Officer of BT:
The future of the Security Industry.
IBWAS 09 Iberic Web Application Security Conference, Polytechnic University of Madrid, Spain, december 10th 2009. Sponsored by Cátedra UPM
Applus+ de Seguridad y Desarrollo de la Sociedad de la Información
CAPSDESI.
http://www.capsdesi.upm.es/
EUITT 10 Diciembre de 2009
Video realizado por el Gabinete de Tele-Educación de la Universidad Politécnica de Madrid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFbET4aQHAA&feature=related
Mr. Bruce Schneier, Chief Security Technology Officer of BT:
The future of the Security Industry.
IBWAS 09 Iberic Web Application Security Conference, Polytechnic University of Madrid, Spain, december 10th 2009. Sponsored by Cátedra UPM
Applus+ de Seguridad y Desarrollo de la Sociedad de la Información
CAPSDESI.
http://www.capsdesi.upm.es/
EUITT 10 Diciembre de 2009
Video realizado por el Gabinete de Tele-Educación de la Universidad Politécnica de Madrid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFbET4aQHAA
21 June 2012 07:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Bruce Schneier on Cyber War and Cyber Crime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkcxi-D5_C0
About the Event:
In this address, Bruce examined the future of cyber war and cyber security. Mr. Schneier explored the current debate on the threat of cyber war, asking whether or not the threat had been over-stated. He then explored the range of attacks that have taken place, including the Latvian DOS attack and the Stuxnet worm. The address concluded with an exploration of the future of international treaties on cyber war.
About the Speaker:
Bruce Schneier is Chief Security Technology Officer of BT, an internationally renowned security technologist and author. Described by The Economist as a "security guru," he is best known as a candid and lucid security critic and commentator. His bestselling books include Applied Cryptography, Secrets and Lies, Beyond Fear and Schneier on Security.
Regularly quoted in the media, he has testified on security before the United States Congress on several occasions and has written articles and op eds for many major publications, including The New York Times, The Guardian, Forbes, Wired, Nature, The Sydney Morning Herald, The Boston Globe, The San Francisco Chronicle, and The Washington Post. Schneier also publishes a free monthly newsletter, Crypto-Gram, with over 150,000 readers. In its ten years of regular publication, Crypto-Gram has become one of the most widely read forums for free-wheeling discussions, pointed critiques, and serious debate about security.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkcxi-D5_C0
About the Event:
In this address, Bruce examined the future of cyber war and cyber security. Mr. Schneier explored the current debate on the threat of cyber war, asking whether or not the threat had been over-stated. He then explored the range of attacks that have taken place, including the Latvian DOS attack and the Stuxnet worm. The address concluded with an exploration of the future of international treaties on cyber war.
About the Speaker:
Bruce Schneier is Chief Security Technology Officer of BT, an internationally renowned security technologist and author. Described by The Economist as a "security guru," he is best known as a candid and lucid security critic and commentator. His bestselling books include Applied Cryptography, Secrets and Lies, Beyond Fear and Schneier on Security.
Regularly quoted in the media, he has testified on security before the United States Congress on several occasions and has written articles and op eds for many major publications, including The New York Times, The Guardian, Forbes, Wired, Nature, The Sydney Morning Herald, The Boston Globe, The San Francisco Chronicle, and The Washington Post. Schneier also publishes a free monthly newsletter, Crypto-Gram, with over 150,000 readers. In its ten years of regular publication, Crypto-Gram has become one of the most widely read forums for free-wheeling discussions, pointed critiques, and serious debate about security.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkcxi-D5_C0
21 June 2012 07:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Panel on cyber crime, bla bla bla
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpRYXRNWka0
Rex Hughes is Visiting Fellow for Cyber Security at Wolfson College, University of Cambridge and at the Munk School of Global Affairs, University of Toronto. He is internationally recognised for his expertise on the global political economy of the internet. Being a cyber defence advisor to NATO since 2008, Hughes authored the joint Chatham House-German Marshall study NATO and Global Cyber Defense in 2009 and was a leading contributor to the NATO Final Advisory Report on Cyber Defence and the 2010 Strategic Concept.
As a member of the Cambridge-MIT Institute from 2005--2008, he advised affiliate companies including BT, Fujitsu, Nokia, and T-Mobile on disruptive technology roadmaps. In 2007, Hughes earned a Ph.D. in international relations from the University of Cambridge.
Rafal Rohozinski (born in 1965) is Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Secdev Group, a company providing intelligence, toolsets as well as investigations that scan processes and address risk in the information age to clients from governments and business. His work spans two decades and 37 countries including conflict zones in the Commonwealth of Independent States, the Middle East and Africa. As one of Canada's thought leaders in the field of cyber security and internet freedom, he authored numerous academic and policy papers including, Stuxnet and the Future of Cyberwar as well as Liberation vs. Control: The Future of Cyberspace. In 2010, Rohozinski was named as one of the top five IT security luminaries of the year by SC magazine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpRYXRNWka0
Rex Hughes is Visiting Fellow for Cyber Security at Wolfson College, University of Cambridge and at the Munk School of Global Affairs, University of Toronto. He is internationally recognised for his expertise on the global political economy of the internet. Being a cyber defence advisor to NATO since 2008, Hughes authored the joint Chatham House-German Marshall study NATO and Global Cyber Defense in 2009 and was a leading contributor to the NATO Final Advisory Report on Cyber Defence and the 2010 Strategic Concept.
As a member of the Cambridge-MIT Institute from 2005--2008, he advised affiliate companies including BT, Fujitsu, Nokia, and T-Mobile on disruptive technology roadmaps. In 2007, Hughes earned a Ph.D. in international relations from the University of Cambridge.
Rafal Rohozinski (born in 1965) is Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Secdev Group, a company providing intelligence, toolsets as well as investigations that scan processes and address risk in the information age to clients from governments and business. His work spans two decades and 37 countries including conflict zones in the Commonwealth of Independent States, the Middle East and Africa. As one of Canada's thought leaders in the field of cyber security and internet freedom, he authored numerous academic and policy papers including, Stuxnet and the Future of Cyberwar as well as Liberation vs. Control: The Future of Cyberspace. In 2010, Rohozinski was named as one of the top five IT security luminaries of the year by SC magazine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpRYXRNWka0
21 June 2012 07:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
DoD Cyber Crime Center - Recon: Digital Detectives- Cyber Crime Fighters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcK2emLssT4
Cyber Crime Units Around The Globe
http://www.4law.co.il/6.html
bdw, nato cyber senter, is in Tallinn :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcK2emLssT4
Cyber Crime Units Around The Globe
http://www.4law.co.il/6.html
bdw, nato cyber senter, is in Tallinn :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcK2emLssT4
21 June 2012 07:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
New World Warrior Stuxnet Cyber Crime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y18K22yPxF4
Source: Need to Know PBS.
Joint effort and other nations and targets
In April 2011 Iranian government official Gholam Reza Jalali stated that an investigation had concluded that the United States and Israel were behind the Stuxnet attack. According to Vanity Fair, Rieger stated that three European countries' intelligence agencies agreed that Stuxnet was a joint United States-Israel effort. The code for the Windows injector and the PLC payload differ in style, likely implying the participation of two nations. Other experts believe that a US-Israel cooperation is unlikely because "the level of trust between the two countries' intelligence and military establishments is not high.
China, Jordan, and France are other possibilities, and Siemens may have also participated. Langner also speculated that the infection may have spread from USB drives belonging to Russian contractors. On 15 July 2010, the day the worm's existence became widely known, a distributed denial-of-service attack—almost certainly from Russia and likely related to Stuxnet—made on the servers for two leading mailing lists on industrial-systems security disabled one of the lists.
Sandro Gaycken from the Free University Berlin argued that the attack on Iran was a ruse to distract from Stuxnet's real purpose. According to him, its broad dissemination in more than 100,000 industrial plants worldwide suggests a field test of a cyber weapon in different security cultures, testing their preparedness, resilience, and reactions, all highly valuable information for a cyberwar unit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y18K22yPxF4
Source: Need to Know PBS.
Joint effort and other nations and targets
In April 2011 Iranian government official Gholam Reza Jalali stated that an investigation had concluded that the United States and Israel were behind the Stuxnet attack. According to Vanity Fair, Rieger stated that three European countries' intelligence agencies agreed that Stuxnet was a joint United States-Israel effort. The code for the Windows injector and the PLC payload differ in style, likely implying the participation of two nations. Other experts believe that a US-Israel cooperation is unlikely because "the level of trust between the two countries' intelligence and military establishments is not high.
China, Jordan, and France are other possibilities, and Siemens may have also participated. Langner also speculated that the infection may have spread from USB drives belonging to Russian contractors. On 15 July 2010, the day the worm's existence became widely known, a distributed denial-of-service attack—almost certainly from Russia and likely related to Stuxnet—made on the servers for two leading mailing lists on industrial-systems security disabled one of the lists.
Sandro Gaycken from the Free University Berlin argued that the attack on Iran was a ruse to distract from Stuxnet's real purpose. According to him, its broad dissemination in more than 100,000 industrial plants worldwide suggests a field test of a cyber weapon in different security cultures, testing their preparedness, resilience, and reactions, all highly valuable information for a cyberwar unit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y18K22yPxF4
21 June 2012 07:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Stuxnet: Cyber Warfare by Israel & The U.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhUj-J9vgiY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhUj-J9vgiY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhUj-J9vgiY
21 June 2012 07:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Wired Science : Technology: World War 2.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9ZBrxJi0qs
http://www.pbs.org/kcet/wiredscience/ - How was one country shut down by an Internet attack?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9ZBrxJi0qs
http://www.pbs.org/kcet/wiredscience/ - How was one country shut down by an Internet attack?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9ZBrxJi0qs
21 June 2012 07:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Fault Lines : Cyberwar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciAqopNRL0U
http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/faultlines/
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Is the US contributing to the militarisation of cyberspace?
Cyberwar. A conflict without footsoldiers, guns, or missiles.
Instead the attacks are launched by computer hackers. Digital spy rings. Information thieves. Cyberarmies of kids, criminals, terrorists - some backed by nation states.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciAqopNRL0U
http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/faultlines/
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Is the US contributing to the militarisation of cyberspace?
Cyberwar. A conflict without footsoldiers, guns, or missiles.
Instead the attacks are launched by computer hackers. Digital spy rings. Information thieves. Cyberarmies of kids, criminals, terrorists - some backed by nation states.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciAqopNRL0U
21 June 2012 06:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Web Warriors ~ CBC Documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34cwMz3HZ8Q
Enter the world of hackers and cyber sleuths.
The internet is touted as one of the most important inventions in the history of modern man, and like the discovery of the atom, its ability to benefit mankind is matched only by its potential to unleash massive destruction.
Web Warriors is a one-hour documentary that offers an unprecedented glimpse into the world's newest and most vulnerable frontier: cyberspace. We enter the world of hackers like Mafia Boy - a 15 year old high school student who rose to infamy in 2000 by causing millions of dollars in damage after single-handedly shutting down internet giants - including Yahoo, Amazon, eBay, Dell, eTrade, and CNN.
We'll meet hackers like Donnie who goes on a journey into the Russian cyber underground as he searches for the creators of a computer virus with the hopes of collecting the $250,000 bounty being offered by Microsoft.
Just as in nature, computer viruses have rapidly evolved and now have the ability to control millions of computers unbeknownst to their owners, thereby creating massive illegal computer networks known as "Botnets".
These "Botnets" are being put to a variety of illicit uses including identity theft and cyber extortion, but they are also the latest and most potent weapon being deployed in military conflicts. Web Warriors dissects the massive cyber attack against Estonia in 2007 which virtually shut down the country and resulted in NATO deploying its cyber response team.
Web Warriors offers rare interviews with cyber sleuths from the FBI, the Pentagon, NATO, and the Department of Homeland Security who explain how cyberspace has become the latest battle ground between nation states and how terrorist groups are already plotting their next move.
Web Warriors offers a fast-paced never-seen before glimpse into the cyber trenches of a world wide battle. Some reports say the cost of cyber crime is now on par with the illegal drug trade.
Web Warriors was produced by Edward Peill for Tell Tale Productions Inc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34cwMz3HZ8Q
Enter the world of hackers and cyber sleuths.
The internet is touted as one of the most important inventions in the history of modern man, and like the discovery of the atom, its ability to benefit mankind is matched only by its potential to unleash massive destruction.
Web Warriors is a one-hour documentary that offers an unprecedented glimpse into the world's newest and most vulnerable frontier: cyberspace. We enter the world of hackers like Mafia Boy - a 15 year old high school student who rose to infamy in 2000 by causing millions of dollars in damage after single-handedly shutting down internet giants - including Yahoo, Amazon, eBay, Dell, eTrade, and CNN.
We'll meet hackers like Donnie who goes on a journey into the Russian cyber underground as he searches for the creators of a computer virus with the hopes of collecting the $250,000 bounty being offered by Microsoft.
Just as in nature, computer viruses have rapidly evolved and now have the ability to control millions of computers unbeknownst to their owners, thereby creating massive illegal computer networks known as "Botnets".
These "Botnets" are being put to a variety of illicit uses including identity theft and cyber extortion, but they are also the latest and most potent weapon being deployed in military conflicts. Web Warriors dissects the massive cyber attack against Estonia in 2007 which virtually shut down the country and resulted in NATO deploying its cyber response team.
Web Warriors offers rare interviews with cyber sleuths from the FBI, the Pentagon, NATO, and the Department of Homeland Security who explain how cyberspace has become the latest battle ground between nation states and how terrorist groups are already plotting their next move.
Web Warriors offers a fast-paced never-seen before glimpse into the cyber trenches of a world wide battle. Some reports say the cost of cyber crime is now on par with the illegal drug trade.
Web Warriors was produced by Edward Peill for Tell Tale Productions Inc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34cwMz3HZ8Q
21 June 2012 06:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
American Underworld - Identity Theft
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNum5XYCqbE
- about car stealing, also where crackers etc can help
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNum5XYCqbE
- about car stealing, also where crackers etc can help
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNum5XYCqbE
21 June 2012 06:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Hackers Outlaws And Angels complete documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNnaIYTj7GU
A documentary About modern hacking
Hackers, Celebrates, philosophers...
Webwars and much more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNnaIYTj7GU
A documentary About modern hacking
Hackers, Celebrates, philosophers...
Webwars and much more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNnaIYTj7GU
21 June 2012 06:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
In the Realm of the Hackers (Complete)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UghlW1TsMA
In 1989, two Melbourne teenage hackers known as Electron and Phoenix stole a restricted computer security list and used it to break into some of the world's most classified and supposedly secure computer systems. So fast and widespread was the attack, no-one could work out how it had happened - until one of the hackers called The New York Times to brag.
Ten years after their arrest, this dramatised documentary uncovers not only how they did it but why. It takes us headlong into the clandestine, risky but intoxicating world of the computer underground.
Summary:
http://www.filmaust.com.au/programs/default.asp?content=program_display&s...
Breaking into The Realm:
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/05/19/1053196515084.html
Zardoz 'Security Digest':
http://securitydigest.org/zardoz/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UghlW1TsMA
In 1989, two Melbourne teenage hackers known as Electron and Phoenix stole a restricted computer security list and used it to break into some of the world's most classified and supposedly secure computer systems. So fast and widespread was the attack, no-one could work out how it had happened - until one of the hackers called The New York Times to brag.
Ten years after their arrest, this dramatised documentary uncovers not only how they did it but why. It takes us headlong into the clandestine, risky but intoxicating world of the computer underground.
Summary:
http://www.filmaust.com.au/programs/default.asp?content=program_display&s...
Breaking into The Realm:
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/05/19/1053196515084.html
Zardoz 'Security Digest':
http://securitydigest.org/zardoz/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UghlW1TsMA
21 June 2012 06:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
This is fun:p
The KGB, the Computer, and Me (Complete)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcKxaq1FTac
How does computer crime really work? What does the Internet look like?
Find out when a one-time Berkeley hippie/astrophysicist turns detective and gets mixed up with the CIA and KGB. NOVA follows computer sleuth Clifford Stoll as he tracks down a data thief through a maze of military and research computers.
From 1990
Cliff Stoll's Website
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~stoll
The KGB, the Computer, and Me (Complete)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcKxaq1FTac
How does computer crime really work? What does the Internet look like?
Find out when a one-time Berkeley hippie/astrophysicist turns detective and gets mixed up with the CIA and KGB. NOVA follows computer sleuth Clifford Stoll as he tracks down a data thief through a maze of military and research computers.
From 1990
Cliff Stoll's Website
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~stoll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcKxaq1FTac
21 June 2012 06:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Well, holliwood is holliwood but in fact many of then actually hold off people who would abuse their absolute power for sure otherwise. Actually many groups have power to hold back governments (or criminals) with information they have - they can inject any kind of information in to any news-networks around the world with in minutes, and with in days there will be no ways to really do something against well organized network. and if ones are packed up with good philosophy .. hey, great things can happen
With data taht people are interested of (ie media) - but often there is so much more in stake and anyone with some data is not showing off it and threatening governments as they have special powers as well...
But yeah, so many of them have actually way deeper, better and more sensitive view and feeling thoward a world then most average people visiting joga classes at Sundays. ...and the stealing of identities - this is not at all the main thing to identify or connect them to this meme... its like describing cooks by saying they are people who like to put salt to the pancakes - yes, sometimes,
and some can cook nothing more then pancakes.
(hey not a good example, i love pancakes.. am pretty good at cooking them :p )
With data taht people are interested of (ie media) - but often there is so much more in stake and anyone with some data is not showing off it and threatening governments as they have special powers as well...
But yeah, so many of them have actually way deeper, better and more sensitive view and feeling thoward a world then most average people visiting joga classes at Sundays. ...and the stealing of identities - this is not at all the main thing to identify or connect them to this meme... its like describing cooks by saying they are people who like to put salt to the pancakes - yes, sometimes,
and some can cook nothing more then pancakes.
(hey not a good example, i love pancakes.. am pretty good at cooking them :p )
21 June 2012 06:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Well, actually these, if we talk about the ones these videos remotely describe (but its like looking yt video of vedas, joga, sex or LSD, while having no real interest of it, kind of - getting same level of deepness from the videos or my explanation, its kind of like religion :)
It is so much more important what are they from one corner to another, most likely there would be no nets as of we have now if they would not be, and if they will not be - there will be no nets, as they have right now.
But besides that we are talking about people who have access deepest government prots, secrets, can access weapon systems and turn of electricity or airline networks, make an war and change nation consciousness if needed, destroy lives and save lives, work for organized criminals for kill or for military.. well, possibilities are endless but most of all - the coolest guys in a way, are the ones who make new stuff, who invent new ways, people who are not limited by this what are told - how things are, as there are so many new ways, how things can be or not to be
there is reason, why they get life time prison sentences, more then rapers, child molesters, drug dealers and killers, often - when one is high enough profile - then.. actually we will newer know about the one who will be gone.. they also do not run fb fan pages one can like and keep updated with daily activity from twitter (ok, perhaps last one is kind of used )
There is many cool hacks to look forward, for example: http://hackaday.com/category/chemistry-hacks/
It is so much more important what are they from one corner to another, most likely there would be no nets as of we have now if they would not be, and if they will not be - there will be no nets, as they have right now.
But besides that we are talking about people who have access deepest government prots, secrets, can access weapon systems and turn of electricity or airline networks, make an war and change nation consciousness if needed, destroy lives and save lives, work for organized criminals for kill or for military.. well, possibilities are endless but most of all - the coolest guys in a way, are the ones who make new stuff, who invent new ways, people who are not limited by this what are told - how things are, as there are so many new ways, how things can be or not to be
there is reason, why they get life time prison sentences, more then rapers, child molesters, drug dealers and killers, often - when one is high enough profile - then.. actually we will newer know about the one who will be gone.. they also do not run fb fan pages one can like and keep updated with daily activity from twitter (ok, perhaps last one is kind of used )
There is many cool hacks to look forward, for example: http://hackaday.com/category/chemistry-hacks/
http://hackaday.com/category/chemistry-hacks/
21 June 2012 06:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
This guy is so energic, lets post one clasroom video more:
Hacking DNS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRysni9ND2w
Hacking DNS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRysni9ND2w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRysni9ND2w
21 June 2012 06:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Would want to mee in real life, some one who is really, actually , like - just Bad, just plain bad with no other reason for it then - to be
21 June 2012 06:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Simple Introduction to Hacking (as if last video was to much)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGIHjTmTFfA
This guy looks happy : ))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGIHjTmTFfA
This guy looks happy : ))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGIHjTmTFfA
21 June 2012 06:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
SQL Injection Explained
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB7hWlqTSqs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB7hWlqTSqs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB7hWlqTSqs
21 June 2012 05:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
In this first lecture of the Fall 2010 series, Dr. Loveland and her special guest Eve Hacker take you on a precautionary journey regarding computer security, with a talk entitled "How to Hack a Web Site". Adams State Computer Science Program
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O90lSMmTjjo
: http://www.adams.edu/academics/compsci/index.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O90lSMmTjjo
: http://www.adams.edu/academics/compsci/index.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O90lSMmTjjo
21 June 2012 05:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
One more doc, Some oldschool ppl :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cecky3pvxc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cecky3pvxc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cecky3pvxc
21 June 2012 05:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
lol, comment:
" Some of this has good information, but most of it is a bag of shit !.
- 1415NWO "
" Some of this has good information, but most of it is a bag of shit !.
- 1415NWO "
21 June 2012 05:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
A bit more serious, older doc:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Brv2FaOluU
...heeey.. why did not mention Estonian language.. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Brv2FaOluU
...heeey.. why did not mention Estonian language.. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Brv2FaOluU
21 June 2012 05:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(lets forgive how its made..)
It can be scientifically proven that the Vedic culture is indigenous, through archaeology, the study of cultural continuity, by linguistic analysis and genetic research. Therefore proving the Aryan invasion theory is false.
The Vedas and Hinduism are not mythology but fact. The Aryan invasion theory was a lie, started by people who were racially bias and Christian missionaries.
Many of the worlds greatest thinkers admired the Vedas as great repositories of advanced knowledge and high thinking.
"That I encounter in the Vedas deep original lofty thoughts, suffused with a high and holy seriousness" - Arthur Schopenhauer (the famed German philosopher and writer)
"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad Gita" - Ralph Waldo Emerson (well known early American writer, who read the Vedas daily)
"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous philosophy of the Bhagavad Gita, in comparison with which our modern world and it's literature seems puny and trivial" - Henry David Thoreau (American writer, historian and philosopher.)
"Vedanta is the most impressive metaphysics the human mind has conceived" - Alfred North Whitehead (British mathematician, logician and philosopher)
"The Vedas are the greatest privilege of this century" - Julius Robert Oppenheimer (the principle developer of the Atomic bomb)
"India was Chinas teacher in trigonometry, quadratic equations, grammar, phonetics..." and so forth. - Lin Yutang (Chinese scholar and author)
"Everything has come down to us from the banks of the Ganges" - Francois Voltaire (famous French writer and philosopher)
From these statements we see many renowned intellectuals believed that the origins of scientific thought was the Vedas. The Vedic literatures contain descriptions of advanced scientific techniques, sometimes even more sophisticated than those used in our modern technological world.
Vedic cosmology is yet another ancient Vedic science which can be confirmed by modern scientific findings and this is acknowledged by well known scientists and authors.
"Vedic cosmology is the only one in which the time scales correspond to those of modern scientific cosmology" - Carl Sagan
"A cosmogony which no European conception has ever surpassed" - Nobel Laureate Count Maurice Maeterlinck
French astronomer Jean-Claude Bailly corroborated the antiquity and accuracy of the Vedic astronomical measurements as "More ancient than those of the Greeks or Egyptians" and that, "the movements of the stars calculated 4,500 years ago, does not differ by a minute from the tables of today."
Cosmology and other scientific accomplishments of ancient India spread to other countries along with mercantile and cultural exchanges. There are almost one hundred references in the Rig Veda alone to the ocean and maritime activity. This is confirmed by Indian historian R. C. Majumdar, who stated that the people of the Indus-Sarasvata Civilization engaged in trade with Sooma and centers of culture in western Asia and Crete.
"Pythagoras went to the Ganges to learn geometry" - Voltaire
Abraham Seidenberg (author of the authoritative "History Of Mathematics".) credits the Sulba Sutras as inspiring all mathematics of the ancient world, form Babylonian to Egypt to Greece.
As Voltaire and Seidenberg have stated, many highly significant mathematical concepts have come from the Vedic culture, such as; the theorem bearing the name of the Greek mathematician Pythagoras is found in the Shatapatha Brahmana as well as the Sulba Sutra, the Indian mathematical treatise, written centuries before Pythagoras was born. - The Decimal system, based on powers of 10, where the remainder is carried over to the next column, first mentioned in the Taittiriya Samhita of the Black Yajurveda. - The introduction of zero as both a numerical value and a place marker. - The concept of infinity. - The binary number system, essential for computers, was used in Vedic verse meters. - A hashing technique, similar to that used by modern search algorithms, such as Googles, was used in South Indian musicology. From the name of a raga one can determine the notes of the raga.
The Vedas however are not as well known for presenting historical and scientific knowledge, as they are for expounding subtle sciences such as the power of mantras.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw6J03bEyxs
It can be scientifically proven that the Vedic culture is indigenous, through archaeology, the study of cultural continuity, by linguistic analysis and genetic research. Therefore proving the Aryan invasion theory is false.
The Vedas and Hinduism are not mythology but fact. The Aryan invasion theory was a lie, started by people who were racially bias and Christian missionaries.
Many of the worlds greatest thinkers admired the Vedas as great repositories of advanced knowledge and high thinking.
"That I encounter in the Vedas deep original lofty thoughts, suffused with a high and holy seriousness" - Arthur Schopenhauer (the famed German philosopher and writer)
"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad Gita" - Ralph Waldo Emerson (well known early American writer, who read the Vedas daily)
"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous philosophy of the Bhagavad Gita, in comparison with which our modern world and it's literature seems puny and trivial" - Henry David Thoreau (American writer, historian and philosopher.)
"Vedanta is the most impressive metaphysics the human mind has conceived" - Alfred North Whitehead (British mathematician, logician and philosopher)
"The Vedas are the greatest privilege of this century" - Julius Robert Oppenheimer (the principle developer of the Atomic bomb)
"India was Chinas teacher in trigonometry, quadratic equations, grammar, phonetics..." and so forth. - Lin Yutang (Chinese scholar and author)
"Everything has come down to us from the banks of the Ganges" - Francois Voltaire (famous French writer and philosopher)
From these statements we see many renowned intellectuals believed that the origins of scientific thought was the Vedas. The Vedic literatures contain descriptions of advanced scientific techniques, sometimes even more sophisticated than those used in our modern technological world.
Vedic cosmology is yet another ancient Vedic science which can be confirmed by modern scientific findings and this is acknowledged by well known scientists and authors.
"Vedic cosmology is the only one in which the time scales correspond to those of modern scientific cosmology" - Carl Sagan
"A cosmogony which no European conception has ever surpassed" - Nobel Laureate Count Maurice Maeterlinck
French astronomer Jean-Claude Bailly corroborated the antiquity and accuracy of the Vedic astronomical measurements as "More ancient than those of the Greeks or Egyptians" and that, "the movements of the stars calculated 4,500 years ago, does not differ by a minute from the tables of today."
Cosmology and other scientific accomplishments of ancient India spread to other countries along with mercantile and cultural exchanges. There are almost one hundred references in the Rig Veda alone to the ocean and maritime activity. This is confirmed by Indian historian R. C. Majumdar, who stated that the people of the Indus-Sarasvata Civilization engaged in trade with Sooma and centers of culture in western Asia and Crete.
"Pythagoras went to the Ganges to learn geometry" - Voltaire
Abraham Seidenberg (author of the authoritative "History Of Mathematics".) credits the Sulba Sutras as inspiring all mathematics of the ancient world, form Babylonian to Egypt to Greece.
As Voltaire and Seidenberg have stated, many highly significant mathematical concepts have come from the Vedic culture, such as; the theorem bearing the name of the Greek mathematician Pythagoras is found in the Shatapatha Brahmana as well as the Sulba Sutra, the Indian mathematical treatise, written centuries before Pythagoras was born. - The Decimal system, based on powers of 10, where the remainder is carried over to the next column, first mentioned in the Taittiriya Samhita of the Black Yajurveda. - The introduction of zero as both a numerical value and a place marker. - The concept of infinity. - The binary number system, essential for computers, was used in Vedic verse meters. - A hashing technique, similar to that used by modern search algorithms, such as Googles, was used in South Indian musicology. From the name of a raga one can determine the notes of the raga.
The Vedas however are not as well known for presenting historical and scientific knowledge, as they are for expounding subtle sciences such as the power of mantras.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw6J03bEyxs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw6J03bEyxs
21 June 2012 05:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See logo muidu on sarnane esimesel video natuke sellega v: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism ? Seal koranis mainivad ka linnu inimesi vms.. ja nazidel ka nats sarnane symboolika oli.. anyways, lihtsalt, märge siia :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism
21 June 2012 04:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYncRgRRmgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYncRgRRmgo
21 June 2012 04:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZESKRa6DnFg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZESKRa6DnFg
21 June 2012 04:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
" Few people laugh.. - wander who was these people .. who laugh.."
Atomic Warfare in the Mahabharata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK1ZFa2NsHY
Atomic Warfare in the Mahabharata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK1ZFa2NsHY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK1ZFa2NsHY
21 June 2012 04:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
" What is found herein may also be found in other sources,
What is not found herein does not matter "
http://www.wmblake.com/stories/mahabharata/introduction.htm
http://www.wmblake.com/stories/mahabharata/beginnings.htm
What is not found herein does not matter "
http://www.wmblake.com/stories/mahabharata/introduction.htm
http://www.wmblake.com/stories/mahabharata/beginnings.htm
http://www.wmblake.com/stories/mahabharata/introduction.htm
21 June 2012 04:15
Margus Meigo commented on JESS3's post.
look that u will not get sued from trademark similarity from nassa :p
the last one is the best
the last one is the best
21 June 2012 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
Our fashion was white and black stripes over here
, Orange brings an revolution to the mind
, Orange brings an revolution to the mind
21 June 2012 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Muslim Mahammad oglu Magomayev (Azerbaijani: Müslüm Maqomayev) (18 September 1885, Starye Atagi – 28 July 1937, Nalchik) was an Azerbaijani and Soviet composer and conductor. He is the grandfather and a namesake of Azerbaijani opera singer Muslim Magomayev. He was born Abdulmuslim Magomayev into a family of a Chechen blacksmith on the same day another prominent Azerbaijani composer Uzeyir Hajibeyov was born. Magomayev's home village Starye Atagi is located 10 kilometres north of Grozny, present-day Chechen Republic, Russia. He had studied at a primary school in Grozny before being admitted to the Gori Pedagogical Seminary (in present-day Georgia) in 1900. There Magomayev developed passion for music and conducting. That was also where he first met Uzeyir Hajibeyov, then his fellow student. However Magomayev found musical career financially unpromising and decided to focus on teaching.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_EO_y3Mu94
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_EO_y3Mu94
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_EO_y3Mu94
21 June 2012 02:37
Margus Meigo commented on Arvo Soomets's post.
Group: Maagiline Matrix
Vot selline, kanal: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheVolodqka sa tegeled node asjadega, vaat kas seal ka väärt kraami : )
Kusjuures, Koraani kohta tahaks häid vene docce saada... sest need asjad suht päevakohased saavad olema vast vartsti millest neis kirjades räägitihttp://www.youtube.com/user/TheVolodqka
21 June 2012 02:09
Margus Meigo commented on Arvo Soomets's post.
Group: Maagiline Matrix
kas sa neile asjadele suubakaid ei tahaks tegema hakata, oleks supper, ma võin saata juhiseid kuidas lihtsalt alla laadida ytst neid docce ja programme mis aitavad suubakaid teha21 June 2012 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on Arvo Soomets's post.
Group: Maagiline Matrix
kuigi keelt ei tunne tundub päris hästi tehtud asi olevat21 June 2012 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on Freewheeling Gary Falkenberg's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
We should DROP this awful meme about.. dropping out.. as people take it literally...
Like why not, STAY (T)HERE
do not, drop out, like, ever ... the drop out thing might just be intelligences way to not keep us There ... : )21 June 2012 00:27
Margus Meigo commented on Freewheeling Gary Falkenberg's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
hey, dont fck around :p21 June 2012 00:23
Margus Meigo commented on Daniel Lee's post.
Group: The "Marijuana Tea" Party
And Piggi, just actually funny thing - wanted to send out of blue message to you - "Your my favorite hemp activist, keep it up" - something along these lines, hey - and its true. So lets not get to feelingy about politics , there is bigger things in stake - like, what We do :)
Wake Up America!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv0smG7ptcMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv0smG7ptcM
20 June 2012 22:00
Margus Meigo commented on Daniel Lee's post.
Group: The "Marijuana Tea" Party
Will re-write the comment, /just lets imagine he has been voted to be what he is desinged to be..or end up to be what he can be used for/
- you know, someone to take on stoner and anti gov votes, - to map the people, to take energy off any other potential conditate and if worst comes to worst - we are prepared. US, often is. Prepared. ...did anyone ever wonder how come he got so much airtime with sayngs like that..
Hes 2008 top 5 contributors for him: US Army, US Navy, US Air Force, Google Inc, Microsoft Corp (also might be Their conspiracy against him to make him look bad.. to know upfront that some nousy ppl will use this data..)
Not sure what tick me off about him, always have been kind of strugeling to understand in here, why so many smokers like him, so much - even taking in to account he is all nice guy and is not spinning up deviding ideas, conflickts, hate, empty hope and wrong kind of energy and activism in a big picture. And to say, you are pro life - this himself seems kind of evil in my book.
Does he really smoke ? Like lots ?
But yeah.. there was something he told and how he told... and how he is shown - there is some things we can fake and some things we can fake most of the times... but we cant fake all the things all the time...there was some saying something along these lines...
and hey, we are not what we vote but what we say and how we say it! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYWWBwf2wHEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYWWBwf2wHE
20 June 2012 21:55
Margus Meigo commented on Daniel Lee's post.
Group: The "Marijuana Tea" Party
Top 5 for K. was: Machinists/Aerospace Workers Union, National Education Assn, United Food & Commercial Workers Union, United Auto Workers
- a bit different kind of friends one has : )20 June 2012 21:16
Margus Meigo commented on Daniel Lee's post.
Group: The "Marijuana Tea" Party
Well.. what does Ron better the Kucinich, does he have a soul and fire? :p20 June 2012 21:00
Margus Meigo commented on Daniel Lee's post.
Group: The "Marijuana Tea" Party
Well, Dennis Kucinich - ALL the way, would elect him for my own country if there would be an option :p20 June 2012 20:56
Margus Meigo commented on Daniel Lee's post.
Group: The "Marijuana Tea" Party
seriously thought.. Romney has a chance ?
Still wandering.. why.. but hey, this is me20 June 2012 20:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Some more reading, from more serious source, for many:
Ending Academic Imperialism: a Beginning
Inmantec, Ghaziabad, and
Centre for Studies in Civilizations, New Delhi
http://multiworldindia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/ckr-Tehran-talk-on-academic-imperialism.pdf
C. K. Raju
Abstract: Academic imperialism begins with Western education, which has not been seriously
challenged in hard sciences. Colonialism changed the system of education as a key means of containing
revolt, and stabilising Western rule. The change was possible (e.g. by Macaulay in India) just because
a large section of the colonised elite had already swallowed the racist beliefs of the 18th c., that only the
West had innovated in science. Those racist beliefs, in turn, were based on a bad history and philosophy
of science violently distorted by the religious fanaticism which overwhelmed Europe from the
Crusades in the 11th c. until the 17th c. Therefore, to end academic imperialism it is necessary to take the
following steps. (a) Dismantle and expose the falsehoods of this Western history of science. (b) Change
also the accompanying philosophy of science. (c) Use this to construct a new pedagogy, particularly in
the hard sciences, and demonstrate its practical value, to dismantle the colonial education system. (d)
Dismantle the Western power structure at the level of higher-education and research.
The immediate action items relate to (c) and (d). (1) Help repeat an experiment to test a new pedagogy
of the calculus (“5-day course on calculus without limits”) based on a new history and philosophy of
mathematics, which enables the calculus to be taught very easily, with the help of computers, even to
non-math students. (The calculus is at the base of hard science.) (2) Join and contribute to a new
society and web-journal for History and Philosophy of Non-Western Science (HAPONOWS), which
will not permit reliance on secondary Western sources, so that authors will have to assume that all such
material is doubtful and untrustworthy.
1. Introduction and summary
The point about academic imperialism is not just to talk about it, but to end it.
Talking about it is useful only in so far as it helps to understand the key causes and remedies. Here is a
summary of both, and a proposal for the critical first step.
Western education has been promoted on the grounds that it would help to “catch up with the West” in
science and technology and thus obtain parity with the West in hard power. This belief makes the non-
West imitate the West.
On the other hand, today, a scientific innovation is not treated as credible until it has been endorsed by
the West (e.g. published in a “prestigious” [meaning Western] journal); this practice ensures that the
non-West can never out-innovate or catch up with the West in science, for the West is always the first
to know about any major innovations, well before they become public.
The two beliefs combined (that Western education is needed for science, and that Western endorsement
is the best test of scientific truth and expertise), thus, actually are a recipe to ensure perpetual inferiority
of the non-West, and to make the technology gap permanent, with the non-West always following in the
footsteps of the West, but trailing behind, and never able to catch up.
For example, Western education has been encouraged in India for nearly two centuries, but India could
not achieve technological parity with the West, in all these years—even its much vaunted space
program, for instance, is still more than 40 years behind the West. (India just sent an unmanned mission
to the moon. But the fact is that the US landed a man on the moon over 40 years ago, around which
time, China, too, had acquired ICBM technology.) The cryogenic rocket technology used in India poses
no military threat to the West. The West is happy to have a billion people following it at such a safe
technological distance.
Unlike ordinary imperialism, in Iraq or Afghanistan, say, which is resisted, and drains the imperialist,
academic imperialism is self-perpetuating. Common people, too, seek Western education for the
economic benefits it might entail at the individual level, through proximity to the rulers. Thus, they
acquire the attitudes and values the West wants them to have. This soft power of the West is a stronger
basis for imperialism than its hard power which is otherwise vulnerable.
Thus, the technology gap between West and non-West is often very slender. Atomic bombs, for
example, are easy to build. A country like Iran could easily do that, within a short time, if it were
allowed to do so, without external interference. And if political pressure is the real means by which
the technology gap is maintained, then how can that gap ever be overcome by imitating the West? On
the other hand, Russia still has a whole lot of nuclear bombs and delivery missiles. But they are no
longer seen as a major threat, after the Soviet Union succumbed to Western soft power and
disintegrated without a blow.
Thus, the real strength of imperialism is soft power, not hard power. The West needs soft power to
cement the vulnerabilities in its hard power. Imitating the West only enhances its soft power, without
diminishing its hard power (which is based on the technology gap).
The present-day soft power of the West originated during colonialism. Unlike ordinary military
conquests, colonialism involved a cultural conquest; it involved cultural imperialism. In India, the
Britishers themselves wondered how a handful of people from a small nation coming from so far
overseas could control such a vast population. Indoctrination through the colonial education system
played a key role in this cultural imperialism. The aim of colonial education was to create a Western
educated elite class of Indians who would be loyal to the British and help them to rule the masses. This
loyalty was ensured by the education system which implanted the desired attitudes and values, and also
instilled an unshakeable belief in Western superiority (and Indian inferiority). This is not exactly the
way dogs and other animals are trained to obey their masters without a stick, but there is an analogy.
This colonial system of education could be initiated just because the gullible Indian elite (and the
colonised, generally) had already swallowed the claim of Western superiority. In the early 19th c.,
there was no visible technology gap between West and non-West: the Battle of Plassey was not won by
any technological superiority. Nevertheless it was argued that the West must be imitated since it was
superior. That claim of superiority rested on the bad history that science is of Western origin, and is,
Ending Academic Imperialism: a Beginning
Inmantec, Ghaziabad, and
Centre for Studies in Civilizations, New Delhi
http://multiworldindia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/ckr-Tehran-talk-on-academic-imperialism.pdf
C. K. Raju
Abstract: Academic imperialism begins with Western education, which has not been seriously
challenged in hard sciences. Colonialism changed the system of education as a key means of containing
revolt, and stabilising Western rule. The change was possible (e.g. by Macaulay in India) just because
a large section of the colonised elite had already swallowed the racist beliefs of the 18th c., that only the
West had innovated in science. Those racist beliefs, in turn, were based on a bad history and philosophy
of science violently distorted by the religious fanaticism which overwhelmed Europe from the
Crusades in the 11th c. until the 17th c. Therefore, to end academic imperialism it is necessary to take the
following steps. (a) Dismantle and expose the falsehoods of this Western history of science. (b) Change
also the accompanying philosophy of science. (c) Use this to construct a new pedagogy, particularly in
the hard sciences, and demonstrate its practical value, to dismantle the colonial education system. (d)
Dismantle the Western power structure at the level of higher-education and research.
The immediate action items relate to (c) and (d). (1) Help repeat an experiment to test a new pedagogy
of the calculus (“5-day course on calculus without limits”) based on a new history and philosophy of
mathematics, which enables the calculus to be taught very easily, with the help of computers, even to
non-math students. (The calculus is at the base of hard science.) (2) Join and contribute to a new
society and web-journal for History and Philosophy of Non-Western Science (HAPONOWS), which
will not permit reliance on secondary Western sources, so that authors will have to assume that all such
material is doubtful and untrustworthy.
1. Introduction and summary
The point about academic imperialism is not just to talk about it, but to end it.
Talking about it is useful only in so far as it helps to understand the key causes and remedies. Here is a
summary of both, and a proposal for the critical first step.
Western education has been promoted on the grounds that it would help to “catch up with the West” in
science and technology and thus obtain parity with the West in hard power. This belief makes the non-
West imitate the West.
On the other hand, today, a scientific innovation is not treated as credible until it has been endorsed by
the West (e.g. published in a “prestigious” [meaning Western] journal); this practice ensures that the
non-West can never out-innovate or catch up with the West in science, for the West is always the first
to know about any major innovations, well before they become public.
The two beliefs combined (that Western education is needed for science, and that Western endorsement
is the best test of scientific truth and expertise), thus, actually are a recipe to ensure perpetual inferiority
of the non-West, and to make the technology gap permanent, with the non-West always following in the
footsteps of the West, but trailing behind, and never able to catch up.
For example, Western education has been encouraged in India for nearly two centuries, but India could
not achieve technological parity with the West, in all these years—even its much vaunted space
program, for instance, is still more than 40 years behind the West. (India just sent an unmanned mission
to the moon. But the fact is that the US landed a man on the moon over 40 years ago, around which
time, China, too, had acquired ICBM technology.) The cryogenic rocket technology used in India poses
no military threat to the West. The West is happy to have a billion people following it at such a safe
technological distance.
Unlike ordinary imperialism, in Iraq or Afghanistan, say, which is resisted, and drains the imperialist,
academic imperialism is self-perpetuating. Common people, too, seek Western education for the
economic benefits it might entail at the individual level, through proximity to the rulers. Thus, they
acquire the attitudes and values the West wants them to have. This soft power of the West is a stronger
basis for imperialism than its hard power which is otherwise vulnerable.
Thus, the technology gap between West and non-West is often very slender. Atomic bombs, for
example, are easy to build. A country like Iran could easily do that, within a short time, if it were
allowed to do so, without external interference. And if political pressure is the real means by which
the technology gap is maintained, then how can that gap ever be overcome by imitating the West? On
the other hand, Russia still has a whole lot of nuclear bombs and delivery missiles. But they are no
longer seen as a major threat, after the Soviet Union succumbed to Western soft power and
disintegrated without a blow.
Thus, the real strength of imperialism is soft power, not hard power. The West needs soft power to
cement the vulnerabilities in its hard power. Imitating the West only enhances its soft power, without
diminishing its hard power (which is based on the technology gap).
The present-day soft power of the West originated during colonialism. Unlike ordinary military
conquests, colonialism involved a cultural conquest; it involved cultural imperialism. In India, the
Britishers themselves wondered how a handful of people from a small nation coming from so far
overseas could control such a vast population. Indoctrination through the colonial education system
played a key role in this cultural imperialism. The aim of colonial education was to create a Western
educated elite class of Indians who would be loyal to the British and help them to rule the masses. This
loyalty was ensured by the education system which implanted the desired attitudes and values, and also
instilled an unshakeable belief in Western superiority (and Indian inferiority). This is not exactly the
way dogs and other animals are trained to obey their masters without a stick, but there is an analogy.
This colonial system of education could be initiated just because the gullible Indian elite (and the
colonised, generally) had already swallowed the claim of Western superiority. In the early 19th c.,
there was no visible technology gap between West and non-West: the Battle of Plassey was not won by
any technological superiority. Nevertheless it was argued that the West must be imitated since it was
superior. That claim of superiority rested on the bad history that science is of Western origin, and is,
20 June 2012 17:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
... "Conclusion: The Pattern Of The Age Of Imperialism
Though the basic patterns of domination in European colonial empires remained similar to those worked out in Java and India in the early industrial period, the style of colonial rule and patterns of social interaction between colonizer and colonized changed considerably in the late 19th century. Racism and social snobbery became pervasive in contacts between the colonizers and their African and Asian subordinates. The Europeans consciously renounced the ways of dressing, eating habits, and pastimes that had earlier been borrowed from or shared with the peoples of the colonies. The colonizers no longer saw themselves simply as the most successful competitors in a many-sided struggle for political power. They were convinced that they were inherently superior beings, citizens of the most powerful, civilized, and advanced societies on earth. Colonial officials in the age of "high imperialism" were much more concerned than earlier administrators to pull the peasants, who made up the overwhelming majority of the population of all colonized societies, into the market economy and teach them the value of hard work and discipline. Colonial educators were determined to impress upon the children of the colonized elite classes the superiority of Western learning and of everything from political organization to fashions in clothing.
In striving for these objectives, the European colonizers started with the assumption that it was their duty to impose their own views and ways of doing things, rather than learn from others - to remake the world, insofar as the abilities of the "natives" would allow, in the image of industrial Europe. But in pushing for change within colonized societies that had ancient, deeply rooted cultures and patterns of civilized life, the Europeans frequently aroused resistance to specific policies and to colonial rule more generally. Though the colonizers were able to put down protest movements led by displaced princes and religious prophets, much more enduring and successful challenges to their rule came, ironically, from the leaders their social reforms and Western-language schools had done much to nurture. These nationalists reworked European ideas and resurrected those of their own cultures, borrowed European organizational techniques, and made use of the communications systems and common language the Europeans had introduced into the colonies to contest European dominance. The overwhelming dependence of the Europeans on the collaboration of colonized peoples to govern and police their empires rendered the Europeans particularly vulnerable to these challenges from within.
http://www.aldridgeshs.eq.edu.au/sose/modrespg/imperial/group1/conclusion.htm
Though the basic patterns of domination in European colonial empires remained similar to those worked out in Java and India in the early industrial period, the style of colonial rule and patterns of social interaction between colonizer and colonized changed considerably in the late 19th century. Racism and social snobbery became pervasive in contacts between the colonizers and their African and Asian subordinates. The Europeans consciously renounced the ways of dressing, eating habits, and pastimes that had earlier been borrowed from or shared with the peoples of the colonies. The colonizers no longer saw themselves simply as the most successful competitors in a many-sided struggle for political power. They were convinced that they were inherently superior beings, citizens of the most powerful, civilized, and advanced societies on earth. Colonial officials in the age of "high imperialism" were much more concerned than earlier administrators to pull the peasants, who made up the overwhelming majority of the population of all colonized societies, into the market economy and teach them the value of hard work and discipline. Colonial educators were determined to impress upon the children of the colonized elite classes the superiority of Western learning and of everything from political organization to fashions in clothing.
In striving for these objectives, the European colonizers started with the assumption that it was their duty to impose their own views and ways of doing things, rather than learn from others - to remake the world, insofar as the abilities of the "natives" would allow, in the image of industrial Europe. But in pushing for change within colonized societies that had ancient, deeply rooted cultures and patterns of civilized life, the Europeans frequently aroused resistance to specific policies and to colonial rule more generally. Though the colonizers were able to put down protest movements led by displaced princes and religious prophets, much more enduring and successful challenges to their rule came, ironically, from the leaders their social reforms and Western-language schools had done much to nurture. These nationalists reworked European ideas and resurrected those of their own cultures, borrowed European organizational techniques, and made use of the communications systems and common language the Europeans had introduced into the colonies to contest European dominance. The overwhelming dependence of the Europeans on the collaboration of colonized peoples to govern and police their empires rendered the Europeans particularly vulnerable to these challenges from within.
http://www.aldridgeshs.eq.edu.au/sose/modrespg/imperial/group1/conclusion.htm
http://www.aldridgeshs.eq.edu.au/sose/modrespg/imperial/group1/conclusion.htm
20 June 2012 17:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Analysis: Western Education And The Rise Of An African And Asian Middle Class
To varying degrees and for many of the same reasons as the British in India, all European colonizers sought to educate the children of African and Asian elite groups in Western-language schools. The early 19th-century debate over education in India was paralleled, for example, by an equally hard-fought controversy among French officials and missionaries regarding the proper schooling for the peoples of Senegal in West Africa. The Dutch did not develop European language schools for the sons of the Javanese elite until the middle of the 19th century, and many young Javanese males continued to be educated in the homes of the Dutch residing in the colonies until the end of the century. Like the British, the French and Dutch needed administrative assistants and postal clerks, and they could neither recruit enough Europeans to fill these posts nor afford the wages European employees would have demanded.
One of the chief advantages of having Western-educated African and Asian subordinates - for they were always below European officials or managers in the office or on the parade ground - was that their salaries were considerably lower than what Europeans would have been paid for doing the same work. The Europeans had no trouble rationalizing this inequity. Africans and Asians served in their own lands and were thus accustomed to life in the hot, humid, insect- and disease-ridden tropics. For the Europeans who worked in the colonies, life in these environments was deemed difficult, even dangerous. Higher pay was thought to compensate them for the "sacrifices" involved in colonial service. The Europeans also had a higher standard of living than Africans or Asians, and colonial officials assumed that European employees would be more hardworking and efficient.
Beyond the need for government functionaries and business assistants, each European colonizer stressed different objectives in designing Western-language schools for the children of upper-class families. As we have seen, the transmission of Western scientific learning and production techniques was a high priority for the British in India. Educational policymakers, such as Macaulay, also sought to teach the Indians Western literature and manners and to instill in them a Western sense of morality. As Macaulay put it, they hoped that English-language schools would turn out brown English gentlemen, who would in turn teach their countrymen the ways of the West.
The French, at least until the end of the 19th century, went even further. They stressed the importance of Africans and other colonial students mastering the French language and the subtleties of French culture. When the lessons had been fully absorbed and the students fully assimilated to French culture, they could become full citizens of France, no matter what their family origins or the color of their skin. Though only a tiny minority of the population of any French colony had the opportunity for the sort of schooling that would qualify them for French citizenship, there were thousands of Senegalese and hundreds of Vietnamese or Tunisians who could carry French passports, vote in French elections, and even run for seats in the French Parliament. Other European colonial powers adopted either the British or the French approach to education and its aims. The Dutch and Germans, for example, followed the British pattern, while the Portuguese pushed assimilation for even smaller numbers of the elite classes among the peoples they colonized.
Western education in the colonies succeeded in producing both clerks and railway conductors, and brown Indian gentlemen and black French citizens. It also had effects that those who shaped colonial educational policy did not intend, effects that would within a generation or two produce major challenges to the continuation of European colonial dominance. The population of most colonized areas was divided into many different ethnic, religious, and language groups with separate histories and identities. Western language schools gave the sons (and in limited instances, the daughters) of the leading families a common language in which to communicate. The schools also inculcated common attitudes and ideas and imparted to the members of diverse groups a common body of knowledge. In all European colonial societies, Western education led to similar occupational opportunities - in government service, with Western business firms, or as professionals (lawyers, doctors, journalists, etc.). Thus, within a generation after their introduction, Western-language schools had in effect created a new middle class in the colonies that had no counterpart in precolonial African or Asian societies.
Occupying social strata and economic niches in the middle range between the European colonizers and the old aristocracy on the one hand, and the peasantry and urban laborers on the other, Western-educated Africans and Asians within each colony became increasingly aware of the interests and grievances they had in common. They often found themselves at odds with the traditional rulers or the landed gentry, who ironically were often their fathers or grandfathers. Members of the new middle class also felt alienated from the peasantry, whose beliefs and way of life were so different from those they had learned in Western-language schools. For over a generation they clung to their European tutors and employers. Eventually, however, they grew increasingly resentful of their lower salaries, of European competition for scarce jobs, and of their social segregation from the Europeans, who often made little effort to disguise their contempt for even the most accomplished of the African or Asian students of Western ways. Thus, members of the new middle class in the colonies were caught between two worlds: the traditional ways and teachings of their fathers and the "modern" world of their European masters. Finding that they would be fully admitted to neither world, they rejected the first and set about supplanting the Europeans and building their own modern world.
To varying degrees and for many of the same reasons as the British in India, all European colonizers sought to educate the children of African and Asian elite groups in Western-language schools. The early 19th-century debate over education in India was paralleled, for example, by an equally hard-fought controversy among French officials and missionaries regarding the proper schooling for the peoples of Senegal in West Africa. The Dutch did not develop European language schools for the sons of the Javanese elite until the middle of the 19th century, and many young Javanese males continued to be educated in the homes of the Dutch residing in the colonies until the end of the century. Like the British, the French and Dutch needed administrative assistants and postal clerks, and they could neither recruit enough Europeans to fill these posts nor afford the wages European employees would have demanded.
One of the chief advantages of having Western-educated African and Asian subordinates - for they were always below European officials or managers in the office or on the parade ground - was that their salaries were considerably lower than what Europeans would have been paid for doing the same work. The Europeans had no trouble rationalizing this inequity. Africans and Asians served in their own lands and were thus accustomed to life in the hot, humid, insect- and disease-ridden tropics. For the Europeans who worked in the colonies, life in these environments was deemed difficult, even dangerous. Higher pay was thought to compensate them for the "sacrifices" involved in colonial service. The Europeans also had a higher standard of living than Africans or Asians, and colonial officials assumed that European employees would be more hardworking and efficient.
Beyond the need for government functionaries and business assistants, each European colonizer stressed different objectives in designing Western-language schools for the children of upper-class families. As we have seen, the transmission of Western scientific learning and production techniques was a high priority for the British in India. Educational policymakers, such as Macaulay, also sought to teach the Indians Western literature and manners and to instill in them a Western sense of morality. As Macaulay put it, they hoped that English-language schools would turn out brown English gentlemen, who would in turn teach their countrymen the ways of the West.
The French, at least until the end of the 19th century, went even further. They stressed the importance of Africans and other colonial students mastering the French language and the subtleties of French culture. When the lessons had been fully absorbed and the students fully assimilated to French culture, they could become full citizens of France, no matter what their family origins or the color of their skin. Though only a tiny minority of the population of any French colony had the opportunity for the sort of schooling that would qualify them for French citizenship, there were thousands of Senegalese and hundreds of Vietnamese or Tunisians who could carry French passports, vote in French elections, and even run for seats in the French Parliament. Other European colonial powers adopted either the British or the French approach to education and its aims. The Dutch and Germans, for example, followed the British pattern, while the Portuguese pushed assimilation for even smaller numbers of the elite classes among the peoples they colonized.
Western education in the colonies succeeded in producing both clerks and railway conductors, and brown Indian gentlemen and black French citizens. It also had effects that those who shaped colonial educational policy did not intend, effects that would within a generation or two produce major challenges to the continuation of European colonial dominance. The population of most colonized areas was divided into many different ethnic, religious, and language groups with separate histories and identities. Western language schools gave the sons (and in limited instances, the daughters) of the leading families a common language in which to communicate. The schools also inculcated common attitudes and ideas and imparted to the members of diverse groups a common body of knowledge. In all European colonial societies, Western education led to similar occupational opportunities - in government service, with Western business firms, or as professionals (lawyers, doctors, journalists, etc.). Thus, within a generation after their introduction, Western-language schools had in effect created a new middle class in the colonies that had no counterpart in precolonial African or Asian societies.
Occupying social strata and economic niches in the middle range between the European colonizers and the old aristocracy on the one hand, and the peasantry and urban laborers on the other, Western-educated Africans and Asians within each colony became increasingly aware of the interests and grievances they had in common. They often found themselves at odds with the traditional rulers or the landed gentry, who ironically were often their fathers or grandfathers. Members of the new middle class also felt alienated from the peasantry, whose beliefs and way of life were so different from those they had learned in Western-language schools. For over a generation they clung to their European tutors and employers. Eventually, however, they grew increasingly resentful of their lower salaries, of European competition for scarce jobs, and of their social segregation from the Europeans, who often made little effort to disguise their contempt for even the most accomplished of the African or Asian students of Western ways. Thus, members of the new middle class in the colonies were caught between two worlds: the traditional ways and teachings of their fathers and the "modern" world of their European masters. Finding that they would be fully admitted to neither world, they rejected the first and set about supplanting the Europeans and building their own modern world.
20 June 2012 17:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"This is not some distant dystopian future I'm describing, by the way: This is present-day reality. Corporations are attempting to exert control over every thing of value that can possibly be patented, from natural botanical medicines invented by Mother Nature to the very seeds of life found in human DNA. The goal in all this? Complete ownership over the human race and every thing of value on the planet."
OKey, perhaps things are not so funny-bad and scary looking ... but hey - perhaps we have, in future special kind of humans u can purchase when u want a child, means with some patented characteristics that can be added or removed, you know, like firefox addons, one step away from updating your child... but hey, this is done with mind tools in a way anyways, and ...boy, do the owners know, that they are part of an experiment, as well ?
OKey, perhaps things are not so funny-bad and scary looking ... but hey - perhaps we have, in future special kind of humans u can purchase when u want a child, means with some patented characteristics that can be added or removed, you know, like firefox addons, one step away from updating your child... but hey, this is done with mind tools in a way anyways, and ...boy, do the owners know, that they are part of an experiment, as well ?
20 June 2012 17:09
Margus Meigo commented on Diana Sunshine Wulf's post.
Group: The "Marijuana Tea" Party
Well, EU is clever, they allow but as long you EVERY year buy new seeds from them, its not permitted to grow your own and use your own seeds, bust be with regulations ... and buy, with expensive price, new seeds every year..
But hey, this shall be changed with no time, as its just needs to go, seriously20 June 2012 15:04
Margus Meigo commented on Daniel Lee's post.
Group: The "Marijuana Tea" Party
What a hard guy, well,
guess we can wage war on some of them
withe out congress approval as well.
LIKE seriously people, how hard is to know where these people live and work, where they drive ?
Why not drive them out from country while they try to drive country out of mind and in to the mindless war (needles to say - we do not mean the word ˇmindlessˇ in a zen sense of the word)
People in these days think they can say whatever they want, kind of like me, angries me of a bit20 June 2012 15:02
Margus Meigo commented on Todd Akira Morikawa's post.
This is really great page Peace guy,
" Men often make a mistake by thinking that they are in control over their lives, but upon closer inspection they realize they gave that up as soon as they conformed to society’s rules and expectations of their gender. This can be seen in men who feel “obligated” to work a certain job or get married and have kids which, in a traditional sense is still the pinnacle of male “success.” However, as Warren Farrell points out, this isn’t true power. True power for a man is about having agency over his life.
Instead most men are a slave to their gender’s expectations of success—house, cars, high paying jobs, marriage and kids. Heterosexual men will even compete for the status and approval of each other by climbing even higher on the gender latter. The classic “American Dream” is one example that keeps men developmentally, psychically, and spiritually way behind women, and men don’t even question it. "
true, true many ways
" Men often make a mistake by thinking that they are in control over their lives, but upon closer inspection they realize they gave that up as soon as they conformed to society’s rules and expectations of their gender. This can be seen in men who feel “obligated” to work a certain job or get married and have kids which, in a traditional sense is still the pinnacle of male “success.” However, as Warren Farrell points out, this isn’t true power. True power for a man is about having agency over his life.
Instead most men are a slave to their gender’s expectations of success—house, cars, high paying jobs, marriage and kids. Heterosexual men will even compete for the status and approval of each other by climbing even higher on the gender latter. The classic “American Dream” is one example that keeps men developmentally, psychically, and spiritually way behind women, and men don’t even question it. "
true, true many ways
17 June 2012 14:45
Margus Meigo commented on Todd Akira Morikawa's post.
Hey, become free and manage your own time :)
17 June 2012 11:39
Margus Meigo commented on Lesley V Simon's post.
Also they open up to the ideas, that all you have done, is good :)
17 June 2012 00:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
tõsilugu, kuid alati on ka erandeid - neid kes aru saavad, mida nad aru saavad, ja siis saavad sellest aru, juurde :)
16 June 2012 17:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
Sellega sa juba saad aru rohkem kui mited kes arusaavad, oma aru piires :)
16 June 2012 17:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-march-14-2007/zbigniew-brzezinski
Some extra reading, perhaps still readable by the time you read it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barlaam_and_Josaphat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohrmazd
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zurvan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cologne_Mani-Codex
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manichaean
Some extra reading, perhaps still readable by the time you read it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barlaam_and_Josaphat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohrmazd
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zurvan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cologne_Mani-Codex
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manichaean
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-march-14-2007/zbigniew-brzezinski
16 June 2012 15:58
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's photo.
at all:)
15 June 2012 07:37
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's photo.
Well, one here still prefers to wait when storm passes and then dance once we are ready mentally for another upcoming storm , as thats what storms do, they come again, and perhaps not for dancing, but as we danced to much, or not :)
15 June 2012 07:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
So you've always wanted to write a book about cannabis? Here's your chance.
You're invited to participate in an iBook project intended to change perceptions about marijuana by telling 100 short stories by 100 real people, in a fun and easy-to-read format.
Each page will be formatted the same way. The top of the page will have your name, or a title if you prefer. Then there is space for an image, a gallery of images, a video, a Powerpoint presentation, an HTML widget... "The possibilities are endless," said Susan Soares, president of VibeNation MultiMedia, which is sponsoring the project, called Marijuana & Me.
"The purpose of the book is to change the perception of what the typical marijuana consumer is like," Soares told Toke of the Town Thursday afternoon.
VibeNation MultiMedia
Susan Soares, VibeNation MultiMedia: "The purpose of the book is to change the perception of what the typical marijuana consumer is like"
You'll have a maximum of 1,500 characters for your text.
VibeNation asks that you please make your marijuana story personal and true; your work may be edited. The top 100 stories will be chosen by popular vote.
The book will be available on iTunes, and the 100 authors will collectively own the iBook. With iTunes taking 30 percent of sales and VibeNation taking 10 percent for producing the book, the rest of the profits -- 60 percent -- will be equally split between the 100 authors.
You have six weeks to get your story together. The deadline for submissions is July 30, 2012. You can email Soares for more details at susan@vibenationmultimedia.com.
http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/06/marijuana_book_will_feature_100_authors_-_maybe_in.php
You're invited to participate in an iBook project intended to change perceptions about marijuana by telling 100 short stories by 100 real people, in a fun and easy-to-read format.
Each page will be formatted the same way. The top of the page will have your name, or a title if you prefer. Then there is space for an image, a gallery of images, a video, a Powerpoint presentation, an HTML widget... "The possibilities are endless," said Susan Soares, president of VibeNation MultiMedia, which is sponsoring the project, called Marijuana & Me.
"The purpose of the book is to change the perception of what the typical marijuana consumer is like," Soares told Toke of the Town Thursday afternoon.
VibeNation MultiMedia
Susan Soares, VibeNation MultiMedia: "The purpose of the book is to change the perception of what the typical marijuana consumer is like"
You'll have a maximum of 1,500 characters for your text.
VibeNation asks that you please make your marijuana story personal and true; your work may be edited. The top 100 stories will be chosen by popular vote.
The book will be available on iTunes, and the 100 authors will collectively own the iBook. With iTunes taking 30 percent of sales and VibeNation taking 10 percent for producing the book, the rest of the profits -- 60 percent -- will be equally split between the 100 authors.
You have six weeks to get your story together. The deadline for submissions is July 30, 2012. You can email Soares for more details at susan@vibenationmultimedia.com.
http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/06/marijuana_book_will_feature_100_authors_-_maybe_in.php
http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/06/marijuana_book_will_feature_100_authors_-_maybe_in.php
15 June 2012 07:27
Margus Meigo commented on Carla A Delgado's post.
Group: The Resonance Project
so are thy much closer now to simple truths how to remove all pain and suffering in this Atom here while they are at it ?15 June 2012 07:14
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Häkkinen's post.
in some parts of world they call it trolling, i call it
hey - like my post, will not respond to my own comment - questions otherwise
hey - like my post, will not respond to my own comment - questions otherwise
15 June 2012 07:06
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Häkkinen's post.
talking about onions, - just have half of it left in home,
(sometimes people call me DJ Got Side tracked, no one have really not told me that in face for real, but for sure, some of them are singing about it kind of, pretending its all about Snoop and hes dog http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE4zF36dPxE )
(sometimes people call me DJ Got Side tracked, no one have really not told me that in face for real, but for sure, some of them are singing about it kind of, pretending its all about Snoop and hes dog http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE4zF36dPxE )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE4zF36dPxE
15 June 2012 07:04
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Häkkinen's post.
thought more about exorcism or Alien³
15 June 2012 07:02
Margus Meigo commented on Didi Benscoter's link.
really really nice start Didi
Will let this evolve with as it was planned and will jump in, let me know any time there seems to be mental wall for lack of inspiration and pure desire for perfect change,
- and hey, lets also help the ones who need help most to get back to right tracks, the ones who we saw to be the right road before - as the reason that was fallowed, and hey... maybe we all was, in the beginning kind of right, in good way - but once we involve money that is just coming in (and not going around where its really needed) then all good things can turn sour soon.
Help the wrong doers, with all your pure heart, with no selfish desires - and with no need for apologies (might sound a bit of gay in a bad sense of word, but hey - this is just meta comment from my other side of brain) - just the sift in direction that we can feel, should ensure so many more souls to be saved then with any kind of fighting with any kind of cloudy mind that sucks us empty in the end, as we really, should so called *fight* with only tools that we are prepared face later on.
As if one picks up the knife - then other one can choose an
Will let this evolve with as it was planned and will jump in, let me know any time there seems to be mental wall for lack of inspiration and pure desire for perfect change,
- and hey, lets also help the ones who need help most to get back to right tracks, the ones who we saw to be the right road before - as the reason that was fallowed, and hey... maybe we all was, in the beginning kind of right, in good way - but once we involve money that is just coming in (and not going around where its really needed) then all good things can turn sour soon.
Help the wrong doers, with all your pure heart, with no selfish desires - and with no need for apologies (might sound a bit of gay in a bad sense of word, but hey - this is just meta comment from my other side of brain) - just the sift in direction that we can feel, should ensure so many more souls to be saved then with any kind of fighting with any kind of cloudy mind that sucks us empty in the end, as we really, should so called *fight* with only tools that we are prepared face later on.
As if one picks up the knife - then other one can choose an
15 June 2012 06:59
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Häkkinen's post.
are they
15 June 2012 06:14
Margus Meigo commented on Gail R. Ducharme's link.
Just wondering.... what are they still wandering about..
like seriously,
like seriously,
15 June 2012 06:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Soovitan väga väga soojalt, - ilmeksimatu nagu ma teatavasti olen, (:*:) Päikese terad oli väga lummav kogemus, millele järgnes mänguriistade tundma õppimine, dokumentarike ja erineva teemalised väikesed filosoofilised juturingikesed koos maitsva, väga maitsva tsai ja suupistetega, tänud kokale ja Annelile & Co, Kullos veedetud aja võimalikuks tegemise eest :)
Päikeseterad
Sufi traditsioonidest pärit kontsert-etendus! Tabla ja sõnaga.
“Päikeseterad” on lood sufi traditsioonist, Põhja-Aafrikast kuni Indiani välja. Need lood oleme korjanud rännakutelt Prantsusmaal, Itaalias ja Indias. Osad neist on Uus Vana Teatri dramaturg Marik Põldma tõlkinud eesti keelde. Suulise pärimuse puhul on lavastuses alati mainitud allikas.
Selle lavastuse käivitajateks on tablamängija Arno Kalbus ja jutustav näitleja Vahur-Paul Põldma. Aeg-ajalt kaasatakse etendustesse teisi pillimehi. Tänaseks on proovides osalenud Peeter Salmela sitariga ja Leho Rubis bansuuriflöödiga. Tallinna esietendusel, 14. juunil, on kolmandaks partneriks Leho Rubis. Kõik muusikud on pikki aastaid õppinud Indias ja Nepaalis kohalike meistrite käe all. Mõneti on “Päikeseterad” välja kasvanud Uus Vana Teatri 2010. aasta lavastusest “Kloun Kohupiimu Sügisjutud”. “Sügisjutte” mängiti lühikest aega Tartus ja selle valmimisele aitasid kaasa Polina Tšerkassova, Aleksandr Zedeljev ja Nele Aunap.
Kõige rohkem on “Päikeseterad” üks suur pulmapidu. Tere moondub teraks, temast saab korraga päike ja liiv. Suur ja väike kohtuvad. Nende tants keerutab maailmakõiksust justnagu kaleidoskoopi.
Keset orientaalset siidi ja selle puhtaid-selgeid värve on end sisse seadnud jutuvestjad – bansuuriflöödi, tabla ja sõnaga. Selles kolmkõlas toob tuul kuuldavale iidsed lood. Lugude käigus püstitatakse üha uusi telke päikesele. Peaaegu alati on need lood õpetajatest ja õpilastest, õppimisest. Neid jutustades otsivad jutuvestjad sarnast tõstetust kui on orientaalsetes võitluskunstides või keerlevatel dervišitel.
Mis teeb esimene jõgi, kui ta vastas seisab kõrb? Miks öeldakse, et teed, mida mööda eluhoovus peab liikuma, on kirjutatud liivale? Kas imelisem on draakonprintsessi ja päikese armastus või jook nimega tee? Kas päikese kingitus, tema armastuse pant, võib sattuda valedesse kätesse – kui head käskjalad me oleme? Kas meie oskaksime vastu võtta tarkusesõnu, mis võivad surnud ellu äratada? Õppimise kannatusest ei saa “Päikeseterade” lood üle ega ümber. Nagu liiv sobib liivapaberiks ja päikesesse vaatamine teeb silmadele haiget, siis päikesetera on alati ka lõiketera. Kašmiirist pärit mõõgasepa loos tulevad inimesed kuulama imelist laulu ja sellest tekib sõjaline konflikt. Sepp peab laulu katkestama ja hakkama jälle mõõku sepistama. Oma imelist laulu paradiisist laulab ta vaid rahu ajal. Ka keset õitsvat aasa tuleb keisri peaministril oma pistoda välja võtta. Paljastatud tera on eelkõige risk vastata küsimusele: “Kes ma olen?”
Kullo galeriis (Kuninga tn. 6)
Sõnaga Vahur-Paul Põldma, tablaga Arno Kalbus. Bansuuriflöödiga Leho Rubis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuTTOnWlkMw
(only thing one here had conserned questions about was the pentagrams made out of Neon... whats up with that sufi girl?)
Päikeseterad
Sufi traditsioonidest pärit kontsert-etendus! Tabla ja sõnaga.
“Päikeseterad” on lood sufi traditsioonist, Põhja-Aafrikast kuni Indiani välja. Need lood oleme korjanud rännakutelt Prantsusmaal, Itaalias ja Indias. Osad neist on Uus Vana Teatri dramaturg Marik Põldma tõlkinud eesti keelde. Suulise pärimuse puhul on lavastuses alati mainitud allikas.
Selle lavastuse käivitajateks on tablamängija Arno Kalbus ja jutustav näitleja Vahur-Paul Põldma. Aeg-ajalt kaasatakse etendustesse teisi pillimehi. Tänaseks on proovides osalenud Peeter Salmela sitariga ja Leho Rubis bansuuriflöödiga. Tallinna esietendusel, 14. juunil, on kolmandaks partneriks Leho Rubis. Kõik muusikud on pikki aastaid õppinud Indias ja Nepaalis kohalike meistrite käe all. Mõneti on “Päikeseterad” välja kasvanud Uus Vana Teatri 2010. aasta lavastusest “Kloun Kohupiimu Sügisjutud”. “Sügisjutte” mängiti lühikest aega Tartus ja selle valmimisele aitasid kaasa Polina Tšerkassova, Aleksandr Zedeljev ja Nele Aunap.
Kõige rohkem on “Päikeseterad” üks suur pulmapidu. Tere moondub teraks, temast saab korraga päike ja liiv. Suur ja väike kohtuvad. Nende tants keerutab maailmakõiksust justnagu kaleidoskoopi.
Keset orientaalset siidi ja selle puhtaid-selgeid värve on end sisse seadnud jutuvestjad – bansuuriflöödi, tabla ja sõnaga. Selles kolmkõlas toob tuul kuuldavale iidsed lood. Lugude käigus püstitatakse üha uusi telke päikesele. Peaaegu alati on need lood õpetajatest ja õpilastest, õppimisest. Neid jutustades otsivad jutuvestjad sarnast tõstetust kui on orientaalsetes võitluskunstides või keerlevatel dervišitel.
Mis teeb esimene jõgi, kui ta vastas seisab kõrb? Miks öeldakse, et teed, mida mööda eluhoovus peab liikuma, on kirjutatud liivale? Kas imelisem on draakonprintsessi ja päikese armastus või jook nimega tee? Kas päikese kingitus, tema armastuse pant, võib sattuda valedesse kätesse – kui head käskjalad me oleme? Kas meie oskaksime vastu võtta tarkusesõnu, mis võivad surnud ellu äratada? Õppimise kannatusest ei saa “Päikeseterade” lood üle ega ümber. Nagu liiv sobib liivapaberiks ja päikesesse vaatamine teeb silmadele haiget, siis päikesetera on alati ka lõiketera. Kašmiirist pärit mõõgasepa loos tulevad inimesed kuulama imelist laulu ja sellest tekib sõjaline konflikt. Sepp peab laulu katkestama ja hakkama jälle mõõku sepistama. Oma imelist laulu paradiisist laulab ta vaid rahu ajal. Ka keset õitsvat aasa tuleb keisri peaministril oma pistoda välja võtta. Paljastatud tera on eelkõige risk vastata küsimusele: “Kes ma olen?”
Kullo galeriis (Kuninga tn. 6)
Sõnaga Vahur-Paul Põldma, tablaga Arno Kalbus. Bansuuriflöödiga Leho Rubis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuTTOnWlkMw
(only thing one here had conserned questions about was the pentagrams made out of Neon... whats up with that sufi girl?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuTTOnWlkMw
15 June 2012 06:05
Margus Meigo commented on Uus Vana Teater's link.
Väga Väga timm etendus on, nüüd tean ka soovitada endiselt, peale seda kui nähtud ;:)
15 June 2012 05:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kuna Sellise tüdruku poolt soovitati siis Julgen soovitada seda ilma nime ja sisu teadmataki, tulge vaatama! :)
14 June 2012 16:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.uusvanateater.ee/
http://www.uusvanateater.ee/
14 June 2012 16:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
polemas soov
14 June 2012 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
(muudad ofriks end maailma ees)
14 June 2012 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
She wants to survive
14 June 2012 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
With satan, we can beat It
14 June 2012 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
(right click on backround, this and look this small icon here, so the music plays on backround... or turn it on from your home stereo)
14 June 2012 05:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
would want that these kind of friends would share things, who can see what they sahare and to who, but if they can not see what they share how they can know to who they share, and why
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDYvqKftuWE
He is a human, for sure!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDYvqKftuWE
He is a human, for sure!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDYvqKftuWE
14 June 2012 05:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
have not tryed it jet, but will not rule it out,
as Carlin sayd, in a bit more raught for, that you might want not to tceck out, as if you imagine that, intencenly, next time when you eat you meal or think about your family members, you would not like it
like literally
actually this literally, i literally feel hard to type, so will drop it now,
not literally?
as Carlin sayd, in a bit more raught for, that you might want not to tceck out, as if you imagine that, intencenly, next time when you eat you meal or think about your family members, you would not like it
like literally
actually this literally, i literally feel hard to type, so will drop it now,
not literally?
14 June 2012 04:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
or chilli
14 June 2012 04:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Seeing also means not hiding, as if you hide something, then it makes energy, as many people in one room will make room temperature more humid when room is a bit air proof,
tõsilugu.
tõsilugu.
14 June 2012 04:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
aaaaanyway, wanted to say that there should be an option, to turn these kind of things on and off
as some things you want that they would see, and share, and other times not.
as some things you want that they would see, and share, and other times not.
14 June 2012 04:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
But some people use it for some kind of marks, logos, and for wierd camels and toes
14 June 2012 04:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
for using it for The Face
14 June 2012 04:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Like for example, this girl clearly did not want to be in facebook
14 June 2012 04:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
So lets make system that we will favor ? :)
14 June 2012 03:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
" How does seeing things that aren't real change someone?
This is perhaps the biggest misconception about psychedelic therapy. While LSD and psilocybin do sometimes cause people to hallucinate, this is only one small part of the psychedelic experience. The real value is in how the drugs change your thinking. Here is one description:
"What is the psychedelic experience? For me it's the full and overwhelming realization of all the beauty, love, and pain, the wonder and possibility, of the human experience. For the first time you see your life truly objectively, what's going wrong, and what's going right. You grasp and grapple with how you can do better, and you are overcome by the newfound desire to strengthen your community, your relationships, and your karma. And so it proceeds for the next 4 to 6 hours.
And as the raw intensity of the experience fades, it leaves behind this lasting sense of optimism, hope, and strength, a sense that something essential has been renewed, replenished, and maybe even reborn. Above all you're left with a need to make things better, to help others, and to improve your life. And at last you have the strength and vigor you need, without which action was not possible.
The morning after taking LSD it's not uncommon for people to re-enroll in school, restart their job search, or reunite with old friends. There is this sense that whatever was holding us back is dead, we've come to terms with it, and now the power is back in our hands.
It's an experience that will shake your faith in society while simultaneously restoring your faith in yourself, the meaningfulness of existence, and your ability to make a difference." —"
http://www.squidoo.com/psychedelic-therapy
This is perhaps the biggest misconception about psychedelic therapy. While LSD and psilocybin do sometimes cause people to hallucinate, this is only one small part of the psychedelic experience. The real value is in how the drugs change your thinking. Here is one description:
"What is the psychedelic experience? For me it's the full and overwhelming realization of all the beauty, love, and pain, the wonder and possibility, of the human experience. For the first time you see your life truly objectively, what's going wrong, and what's going right. You grasp and grapple with how you can do better, and you are overcome by the newfound desire to strengthen your community, your relationships, and your karma. And so it proceeds for the next 4 to 6 hours.
And as the raw intensity of the experience fades, it leaves behind this lasting sense of optimism, hope, and strength, a sense that something essential has been renewed, replenished, and maybe even reborn. Above all you're left with a need to make things better, to help others, and to improve your life. And at last you have the strength and vigor you need, without which action was not possible.
The morning after taking LSD it's not uncommon for people to re-enroll in school, restart their job search, or reunite with old friends. There is this sense that whatever was holding us back is dead, we've come to terms with it, and now the power is back in our hands.
It's an experience that will shake your faith in society while simultaneously restoring your faith in yourself, the meaningfulness of existence, and your ability to make a difference." —"
http://www.squidoo.com/psychedelic-therapy
http://www.squidoo.com/psychedelic-therapy
14 June 2012 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
true, true.. :)
Wonder, if one really told it, when he was 5 , this would be something :)
Wonder, if one really told it, when he was 5 , this would be something :)
14 June 2012 02:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Well, some might note, easy to say when some small time, wanting to make 1500 bucks, drug deal helper is getting 3 life times in prison, well.. wander if he is also not worrying
http://www.alternet.org/drugs/155794/24-year-old_gets_3_life_terms_in_prison_for_witnessing_a_drug_deal:_the_ugly_truth_of_mandatory_drug_sentencing/
At the age of 24, Aaron was sentenced to three life terms for his role in a cocaine deal. That's effectively three times the sentence imposed upon Faisal Shahzad, who tried to set off a car bomb in Times Square in 2010. Aaron was a student and football player at Southern University in Baton Rouge. He'd never been arrested. In 1992, he made the mistake of being present for the sale of nine kilograms of cocaine and the conversion of one kilo of coke to crack. Aaron would have earned $1,500 for introducing the buyer and seller. He never actually touched the drugs.
Though his role was minor, Aaron received the longest sentence of anyone involved in the conspiracy when he refused to cooperate with authorities.
http://www.alternet.org/drugs/155794/24-year-old_gets_3_life_terms_in_prison_for_witnessing_a_drug_deal:_the_ugly_truth_of_mandatory_drug_sentencing/
At the age of 24, Aaron was sentenced to three life terms for his role in a cocaine deal. That's effectively three times the sentence imposed upon Faisal Shahzad, who tried to set off a car bomb in Times Square in 2010. Aaron was a student and football player at Southern University in Baton Rouge. He'd never been arrested. In 1992, he made the mistake of being present for the sale of nine kilograms of cocaine and the conversion of one kilo of coke to crack. Aaron would have earned $1,500 for introducing the buyer and seller. He never actually touched the drugs.
Though his role was minor, Aaron received the longest sentence of anyone involved in the conspiracy when he refused to cooperate with authorities.
http://www.alternet.org/drugs/155794/24-year-old_gets_3_life_terms_in_prison_for_witnessing_a_drug_deal:_the_ugly_truth_of_mandatory_drug_sentencing/
14 June 2012 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on Christian Barbarini's post.
Group: Medical Marijuana for Beginners
Would expect somthing like that from Onion news.. but its for real? Wou.14 June 2012 02:06
Margus Meigo commented on Jana Conn's photo.
harsh world needs harsh looks .p
13 June 2012 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
bdw this girl on picture is one of the best, in world .)
13 June 2012 21:23
Margus Meigo commented on Lyyli Kersalu's post.
but yeah, the subject is a pretty much same as we can only look these things as whole, well, perhaps not but seems like that for me.. as we are part of this system where all these things influence many life's around the world... and as there is one thing there is because of this other thing... and media freedom is also kind of non existent there (well..in US they have some other tools to not let unneeded news to influence public consciousness, mostly its called mass media overflow )
but yeah, will Kasparov have any chance ? You know one president candidate just went gone as unknown middle of campaign.. on some years ago was told, pretty harsh country :)
but yeah, will Kasparov have any chance ? You know one president candidate just went gone as unknown middle of campaign.. on some years ago was told, pretty harsh country :)
13 June 2012 21:22
Margus Meigo commented on Lyyli Kersalu's post.
one here thought that matrix got us :p
13 June 2012 21:16
Margus Meigo commented on Michael Field's post.
Group: MAX HEINDEL ROSICRUCIAN WISDOM
all what is in our dna what they call it...
is... is mind makes it all, is it the highest of the high?
well, might know the answers - but as of now, in this typing moment.. mind is a bit empty on that13 June 2012 01:14
Margus Meigo commented on Michael Field's post.
Group: MAX HEINDEL ROSICRUCIAN WISDOM
But what if the hear is where really most of our true power resides, and on hear mean the something that we call soul, (self?) life.. something.. or is it all, a mind? That makes life, time space and space between it13 June 2012 01:13
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's photo.
ma unlikesin, et saaksin uuesti likeda seda pilti :p
13 June 2012 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on Sophia Lucero's post.
Group: The Smoke Stream
Hmm... can ganja really work like that for some people ?12 June 2012 22:09
Margus Meigo commented on Didi Benscoter's post.
Group: Accelerating Possibilities
What really really love about the idea, the book, is some of the real life actions you take
the " *memes to counter infectious memes built by predators looking to take advantage of those most susceptible to manipulation. "
- this is really good idea if used wisely, can give you hand with it :)
Anyways, wanted to also ask one other thing - did they dive you also access to any of the tools many use to open their mind? Some LSD or Magic Mushrooms in a private settings? Means, you alone. Just wandering.. how many cults have dared to make this and still be able to BS people later about their personal ego centric stories for their personal greed12 June 2012 22:05
Margus Meigo commented on Didi Benscoter's post.
Group: Accelerating Possibilities
so yaah... not so sure how they fit their actions in with the faight and beliefs but will work out the reasons later if there is any need for that then.
So now about the book.. well, as first if one here would be clearly religios one would ask - did you find by now religion or found god in you other ways ? Or..
Books with headlines like that are needed for sure, it seems but to put people like David Koresh (who gotburned alive in age 33 by Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives according to many different accounts, first they was gased for pretty intensive long time... ) .. to put them in to same list with Hitler, Idi Amin and even the Jim Jones... its a bit harsh, yo do nnot think so ?
And looking what wiki says about David and hey... then compare it with what they say about Manson (who was concluded at age 76 - "too great a danger to be released")
and what is the story really behind mason... hmm.. so much fiction, but just lissten this half an hour what man is sayng, from religios, spiritual, and other points of views and look the eyes. Hey and some Zen and other consepts come handy to know while lisstening him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmnHfh4w0Hc
seriously
... and hey not at all accepting many of the points some of them have crossed on same point of time, but people should simple truth - you are not attaced to your past, you can reborn, at this monent while you read it, drop it all that hold your innder feelings down, and to Really start to work on activly with other people as they are your family.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmnHfh4w0Hc
12 June 2012 21:58
Margus Meigo commented on Didi Benscoter's post.
Group: Accelerating Possibilities
And a bit even more interesting for some:
" Scientific interests include cancer research.The movement continues to work for the end of communism
The Unification Church was noted for its political activities, especially its support for United States president Richard Nixon during the Watergate scandal,its support for anti-communism during the Cold War, and its ownership of various news media outlets through News World Communications, an international news media conglomerate which publishes the Washington Times newspaper in Washington, D.C., and newspapers in South Korea, Japan, and South America, which tend to support conservatism "
So this about Moonies, no soo "moonies" after all... and the doctrine that one here took time to read .. well, its a bit to long for starters, to keep us focused on that waht is most important - to unify12 June 2012 21:36
Margus Meigo commented on Didi Benscoter's post.
Group: Accelerating Possibilities
well Unbreakable Irrational Circular Logic also works for these people who are programmed to think that religions and cults are bad but this another story.
Copy something from Wiki, would newer expect them to talk about Jesus and be active in these sectors like that, for starters something that counght to eye:
" Some Christian groups have kidnapped and attempted to brainwash thousands of Unification Church members worldwide in order to convert them away from the church"
And now comersical interests from F1 to Airports:
" Unification Movement is the largest U.S. sushi restaurant owner with 9,000 units. It is the second largest exporter of Korean goods
For a while the Unification Church was the largest foreign investor in China. It manages the top Asian ballet company,the largest Asian helicopter plant,as well as the only automobile-manufacturing plant in North Korea, Pyeonghwa Motors.Three of its NGOs, namely Universal Peace Federation, Women's Federation for World Peace and Service for Peace, are in consultative status with the UN Economic and Social Council. The church owns Manhattan Center during Africa Day event, which was cosponsored by an affiliated organization. Unification Church-owned Yeongpyeong Resort, The Ocean Resort and Pineridge Resort hosted Expo 2012 in May 2012,and will sponsor the 2018 Winter Olympics and Formula 1.It also owns the Peace Cup, whose president, Chung Hwan Kwak, is a long-time church member and he holds the positions of Asian Football Confederation Social Responsibility Committee Chairman,President of K-league, President of Korea Football Association,which is part of FIFA. Most notable Peace Cup football clubs are Aston Villa, Juventus, Lyon, Inter, etc.
Economic interests of the Unification Movement include the petrochemical industry,construction of golf courses,non-ferrous metallurgy,automobile industry, avia carriers, yachts building,energy drinks, banking, Hollywood, etc. The church owns a mansion in a former Gothic Roman Catholic Church. The church ranks third in the tourism market in Korea.[ It provides tours to North Korea for separated familiesand built a golf course for tourists in Pyeongyang.Japanese members of the Unification Church are the largest share of the air travel market in Korea.The movement owns hotels, an airport, and all the necessary tourism infrastructure units.The movement operates medical tourism; thus, CheongShim Hospital is the largest hospital in Korea in terms of internationalization level.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unification_Church#21st_centuryhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unification_Church#21st_century
12 June 2012 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on Lyyli Kersalu's post.
...Have an theory one might share with me... that there might really be an ideas mooving around in this earth as of now that with no war there is (has been) no development. Like real lookng persons, adolts in earthly terms - some sitting on pretty important looking seats influensing some more important bodyes. and wonderyng in morning how to make world...ˇsaferˇ
Well development..., yea we got 4 example airplanes - the ones that should be taken off from air anyway for our survival one feels here. + lots of other stuf to seperate us from our potential, to replace old acient knowns with tecniques from education system to common public consicuness shaping with missconseptions about what is needed for our species.
Hey.. actually have sad feeling that so many schools in these days do not ask this from students anymore - what for we, human kinds are in here, and what you can do for it?
Well, at least second-third graders should think about it, should hear this guestions from parents - before school. or... what is others take on this ?
Well development..., yea we got 4 example airplanes - the ones that should be taken off from air anyway for our survival one feels here. + lots of other stuf to seperate us from our potential, to replace old acient knowns with tecniques from education system to common public consicuness shaping with missconseptions about what is needed for our species.
Hey.. actually have sad feeling that so many schools in these days do not ask this from students anymore - what for we, human kinds are in here, and what you can do for it?
Well, at least second-third graders should think about it, should hear this guestions from parents - before school. or... what is others take on this ?
12 June 2012 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on Lyyli Kersalu's post.
Hey saw a note from you that your question is gone but only thing one here sees is that your note is gone and questions is here, is this Internet interesting or what..
Well, for me anyone with so high intelligent background shows that one have pretty good chances to handle the diversely dangerous and unimaginable situations that one has been taking up on self.
If we get a bit more realistic now based on that what looks outside in lay-man terms, then anyone from Bill to the one who runs public show now have contributed* to producing more dead bodies and machinery then rest of the world evils combined (well, raw number, might be slightly off).
* (means entity that feeds from what they are public face of, has been contributed)
No need to go do deep in philosophical sense to figure out who is global mil supper empire by spending more resources to ...
.. actually will copy rest of it to next message, to change the vibe, a bit.
Well, for me anyone with so high intelligent background shows that one have pretty good chances to handle the diversely dangerous and unimaginable situations that one has been taking up on self.
If we get a bit more realistic now based on that what looks outside in lay-man terms, then anyone from Bill to the one who runs public show now have contributed* to producing more dead bodies and machinery then rest of the world evils combined (well, raw number, might be slightly off).
* (means entity that feeds from what they are public face of, has been contributed)
No need to go do deep in philosophical sense to figure out who is global mil supper empire by spending more resources to ...
.. actually will copy rest of it to next message, to change the vibe, a bit.
12 June 2012 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on Lyyli Kersalu's post.
Like who ?
12 June 2012 19:15
Margus Meigo commented on Julieann Laosantos Tumale's post.
♥
12 June 2012 05:34
Margus Meigo commented on Rahul Singh's post.
(....still breathless how .. you know... that me... was reading it... right now...)
12 June 2012 05:32
Margus Meigo commented on Jon Robere's post.
Love it every time :))
12 June 2012 05:11
Margus Meigo commented on Arvo Soomets's post.
Group: Maagiline Matrix
Hmm,,, ma seda enamuse aja nüüd viimasel ajal just wastupidi vaadanud, et need kellel on kummardamised - neil üleloomilikemate maailmadega meeled sina peal nagunii juba naturaalsemalt - seega midagi natuke ümber tõlgendada suure plaani osas ei ole raske, sest ususuuna misjoon jääb samaks
kas aga usuga saabki midagi konflikti minna mis on hea, seda asja peaks veel mõtlema kui aeg tuleb12 June 2012 04:35
Margus Meigo commented on Elevate's photo.
But will work for it, will do Darvin,
there comes explenation for more
there comes explenation for more
12 June 2012 03:12
Margus Meigo commented on Elevate's photo.
flowing with ... or what do we do in space actually?
Have been there so little, have not get feeling of it, so that i could really be able to space out all the time
Have been there so little, have not get feeling of it, so that i could really be able to space out all the time
12 June 2012 03:12
Margus Meigo commented on Elevate's photo.
and then jumping to the firct tree... and go with the wind... with no special effort, directing the wind to take me to the space
12 June 2012 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on Elevate's photo.
but would join with dance in the sence of not going against the river - flowing while directing the river as much we can with no special effort
12 June 2012 03:09
Margus Meigo commented on Elevate's photo.
but ... its beautiful combo with Allan... but still... not even there would not want to stop :)
12 June 2012 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on Elevate's photo.
Actually most intelligent is the one who is most adaptable for a change
12 June 2012 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Yes, thats how we wrritting here;
Babe!
Babe!
12 June 2012 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on Arvo Soomets's post.
Group: Maagiline Matrix
Peaasi, et kummardatakse - see ikka vast parem kui üldse mitte midagi? ..või mis te arvate?11 June 2012 00:47
Margus Meigo commented on Arvo Soomets's post.
Group: Maagiline Matrix
(53518240-sms nii mitu päeva ette kui saate, kui saate - kui ei saa, siis äkki ongi nii vaja, mulle, et ootamatult tulevad külalised:)11 June 2012 00:46
Margus Meigo commented on Arvo Soomets's post.
Group: Maagiline Matrix
tgelt kui kohe tulete saate imehead naadi-porgandi-rabarberi rooga vähese sibula ja aiarohu kastmega rabarberi mahlas
- see käib kahe eri pudru kõrvale :p11 June 2012 00:00
Margus Meigo commented on Arvo Soomets's post.
Group: Maagiline Matrix
(teen yhte promo sellele grupile, will be back)10 June 2012 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on Arvo Soomets's post.
Group: Maagiline Matrix
(ma praegu kohe ei saa vastu võtta, kuid seda kohem kui soovi on:)10 June 2012 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on Arvo Soomets's post.
Group: Maagiline Matrix
(st teed jooma, kadaka teele, mu juurde)10 June 2012 23:48
Margus Meigo commented on Arvo Soomets's post.
Group: Maagiline Matrix
Kas te Kadaka Teele tahate tulla? :)10 June 2012 23:48
Margus Meigo commented on Arvo Soomets's post.
Group: Maagiline Matrix
Usk sõltub tõest sõltumatult sest tõde on lihtsalt definatsioon raamatus mis räägib "mingi idee mida mingi grupp inimesi on omavahel kokkulepping..." vms :)10 June 2012 21:25
Margus Meigo commented on Arvo Soomets's post.
Group: Maagiline Matrix
Ma usun, et siis on raskem asju teada saada kui midagi ei usu :)10 June 2012 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Comments from amazon:
(Customer review from the Amazon Vine™ Program - most trusted reviewers on Amazon)
" Disclaimer: I personally don't use marijuana, and I'm not exceptionally liberal in my political viewpoints. I use alcohol in moderation, and my experience is likely similar to what a "normal" American would have after reading this book.
I found the premise of this book very interesting. For a while the "war" on marijuana has seemed increasingly more nonsensical when I look at it from a rational standpoint. Unfortunately advocates for legalization are typically dismissed as druggies and useless members of society. Marijuana is Safer presents the arguments against marijuana in a very intellectual and scientific way, by comparing it to alcohol and the differences in handling of the two substances.
The first few chapters compare marijuana directly to alcohol. Alcohol use is legal above a certain age in this country, while marijuana is banned at all ages (with the exception of medical use in some states). Yet alcohol use is strongly correlated with violence, crime, and general aggressive behavior, while marijuana hasn't be linked definitively to any of these. Alcohol in excess leads to significant health problems over time and overconsumption can kill, while the worst marijuana in excess can do is put the user to sleep. Alcohol is also highly addictive, while claims that pot are addictive have been highly exaggerated. In fact, Fox and his co-authors present a very good case, backed up by multiple studies, that alcohol is significantly more dangerous than marijuana. They do not downplay the risks of marijuana use, but present it as a reasonable alternative to alcohol.
The next few chapters focus on the history of Marijuana prohibition. Key individuals and industries profited and have continued to profit from the banning of marijuana usage. The alcohol industry itself spends millions on anti-marijuana campaigns, while ensuring that anti-underage alcohol consumption ads are limited. Marijuana has to go up against plenty of political and social opposition as well, much of it based on inaccurate information.
The remaining chapters focus on arguments and reasoning to use when discussing marijuana, and how to get involved. Overall I found this to be a very enlightening book, with plenty of reasonable information. It has changed the way I feel about marijuana, especially when compared to alcohol. I highly recommend that any American read this book, and I wish lawmakers were required to."
"Gregory T Carter: Paul Armentano and colleagues have written an excellent and highly informative book that does what has need to be done for some time now, i.e.; compare the pros and cons of marijuana and alcohol. The book does a great job of clearly delineating the relative risk, both medical and legal of these two popular recreational substances. After doing this, they then address the elephant in the room and tackle why our society continues to punish responsible adults who make the rational, safer choice of using marijuana instead of alcohol. Through an objective examination of the two drugs, the book shows that only real valid argument against marijuana is ingrained social prejudice. Howver that is a ridiculous way to run public policy. Yet the reality is that, given our ongoing economic crisis, marijuana may be one of our ways out. Legalizing marijuana would allow the government to tax it and raise billions of dollars in revenue. Given that tobacco companies face ever growing restrictions, marijuana may be their next cash crop, not to mention the money that could be made with hemp products in general, including fiber for clothing, oils and grains for nutrition (and maybe even green energy). This book is hopefully a big step in educating the public and the government so that may be one day reason will prevail and our government will adopt a common sense, rationally driven policy regarding marijuana.
I highly recommend reading "Marijuana is Safer...". It is the right book, published at the right time. Kudos to these authors. "
(Customer review from the Amazon Vine™ Program - most trusted reviewers on Amazon)
" Disclaimer: I personally don't use marijuana, and I'm not exceptionally liberal in my political viewpoints. I use alcohol in moderation, and my experience is likely similar to what a "normal" American would have after reading this book.
I found the premise of this book very interesting. For a while the "war" on marijuana has seemed increasingly more nonsensical when I look at it from a rational standpoint. Unfortunately advocates for legalization are typically dismissed as druggies and useless members of society. Marijuana is Safer presents the arguments against marijuana in a very intellectual and scientific way, by comparing it to alcohol and the differences in handling of the two substances.
The first few chapters compare marijuana directly to alcohol. Alcohol use is legal above a certain age in this country, while marijuana is banned at all ages (with the exception of medical use in some states). Yet alcohol use is strongly correlated with violence, crime, and general aggressive behavior, while marijuana hasn't be linked definitively to any of these. Alcohol in excess leads to significant health problems over time and overconsumption can kill, while the worst marijuana in excess can do is put the user to sleep. Alcohol is also highly addictive, while claims that pot are addictive have been highly exaggerated. In fact, Fox and his co-authors present a very good case, backed up by multiple studies, that alcohol is significantly more dangerous than marijuana. They do not downplay the risks of marijuana use, but present it as a reasonable alternative to alcohol.
The next few chapters focus on the history of Marijuana prohibition. Key individuals and industries profited and have continued to profit from the banning of marijuana usage. The alcohol industry itself spends millions on anti-marijuana campaigns, while ensuring that anti-underage alcohol consumption ads are limited. Marijuana has to go up against plenty of political and social opposition as well, much of it based on inaccurate information.
The remaining chapters focus on arguments and reasoning to use when discussing marijuana, and how to get involved. Overall I found this to be a very enlightening book, with plenty of reasonable information. It has changed the way I feel about marijuana, especially when compared to alcohol. I highly recommend that any American read this book, and I wish lawmakers were required to."
"Gregory T Carter: Paul Armentano and colleagues have written an excellent and highly informative book that does what has need to be done for some time now, i.e.; compare the pros and cons of marijuana and alcohol. The book does a great job of clearly delineating the relative risk, both medical and legal of these two popular recreational substances. After doing this, they then address the elephant in the room and tackle why our society continues to punish responsible adults who make the rational, safer choice of using marijuana instead of alcohol. Through an objective examination of the two drugs, the book shows that only real valid argument against marijuana is ingrained social prejudice. Howver that is a ridiculous way to run public policy. Yet the reality is that, given our ongoing economic crisis, marijuana may be one of our ways out. Legalizing marijuana would allow the government to tax it and raise billions of dollars in revenue. Given that tobacco companies face ever growing restrictions, marijuana may be their next cash crop, not to mention the money that could be made with hemp products in general, including fiber for clothing, oils and grains for nutrition (and maybe even green energy). This book is hopefully a big step in educating the public and the government so that may be one day reason will prevail and our government will adopt a common sense, rationally driven policy regarding marijuana.
I highly recommend reading "Marijuana is Safer...". It is the right book, published at the right time. Kudos to these authors. "
10 June 2012 18:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Comments from Amazon:
"S. Lovering: This book delivers a powerful blow to the failed policy of marijuana prohibition. It not only lays out the comprehensive data on how marijuana compares to alcohol in terms of addictiveness, toxicity, impairment, death and injury toll (safer on all counts), etc. but also compares the systems for regulating the two drugs (alcohol is taxed and regulated -- i.e., legalized, and marijuana is prohibited (that is, its regulation is left up to street dealers and cartels)). The authors reference their sources and come at the issue with a very measured approach that examines policies from the stance of how well they achieve their stated goals, and whether their stated goals make sense given the facts about each drug's safety record. Send this book to your doubting friends and relatives as a basis for a more informed conversation on the topic."
"Chris Smith "420 Guy": This book is Absolutely Fantastic! This should be a real eye opener for anyone who is still hypnotized by "Reefer Madness". This book Exposes the Lies, Racism and false propaganda that is responsible for much of today's crime and gang problems, responsible for the extreme petroleum era damage to our earth, and the ruining or ending the lives of 100's of Millions of People Worldwide.
This book is a MUST Read for Everyone in America!"
"S. Lovering: This book delivers a powerful blow to the failed policy of marijuana prohibition. It not only lays out the comprehensive data on how marijuana compares to alcohol in terms of addictiveness, toxicity, impairment, death and injury toll (safer on all counts), etc. but also compares the systems for regulating the two drugs (alcohol is taxed and regulated -- i.e., legalized, and marijuana is prohibited (that is, its regulation is left up to street dealers and cartels)). The authors reference their sources and come at the issue with a very measured approach that examines policies from the stance of how well they achieve their stated goals, and whether their stated goals make sense given the facts about each drug's safety record. Send this book to your doubting friends and relatives as a basis for a more informed conversation on the topic."
"Chris Smith "420 Guy": This book is Absolutely Fantastic! This should be a real eye opener for anyone who is still hypnotized by "Reefer Madness". This book Exposes the Lies, Racism and false propaganda that is responsible for much of today's crime and gang problems, responsible for the extreme petroleum era damage to our earth, and the ruining or ending the lives of 100's of Millions of People Worldwide.
This book is a MUST Read for Everyone in America!"
10 June 2012 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Comments from amazon:
" Megan Caywood: This book should be made required reading to all political officials, police officers, school teachers and anyone else who has been effected by the stupidity of 'reefer madness'. If America truly is looking for a way out of the recession, look no further than the legalization of hemp and cannabis. Jobs will be flowing out of our ying yangs. And yes, your children will still be safe!"
"Matthew D. Kinslow: I read the review that someone wrote and gave this book 1 star... sure it is gonna be biased... sure a lot of headies drink... but that's not the point of the book... the point of the book is to get out and educate the mass of people that think pot is some kind of demon that will tear out your soul and leave you an empty shell of a person... a person that will go out and rape, steal, and do whatever it is to get the herb... which.. if you know any pot smoker is entirely false... sure pot isn't perfect... and it's not totally safe... but you CANNOT tell me it's not safer than drinking... I just hope people will read this book and understand that people are going to prison, losing their lives, breaking up families, tearing this nation apart for something that is FAR less harmful than alcohol... give peace a chance!"
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" Megan Caywood: This book should be made required reading to all political officials, police officers, school teachers and anyone else who has been effected by the stupidity of 'reefer madness'. If America truly is looking for a way out of the recession, look no further than the legalization of hemp and cannabis. Jobs will be flowing out of our ying yangs. And yes, your children will still be safe!"
"Matthew D. Kinslow: I read the review that someone wrote and gave this book 1 star... sure it is gonna be biased... sure a lot of headies drink... but that's not the point of the book... the point of the book is to get out and educate the mass of people that think pot is some kind of demon that will tear out your soul and leave you an empty shell of a person... a person that will go out and rape, steal, and do whatever it is to get the herb... which.. if you know any pot smoker is entirely false... sure pot isn't perfect... and it's not totally safe... but you CANNOT tell me it's not safer than drinking... I just hope people will read this book and understand that people are going to prison, losing their lives, breaking up families, tearing this nation apart for something that is FAR less harmful than alcohol... give peace a chance!"
"
10 June 2012 18:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Hypnagogue from Amazon:
Review
"In this thoroughly documented account, Fox, Armentano, and Tvert have performed a public service. They have pulled the sheet off the lie that gave us marijuana prohibition. In truth, it turns out 'The Devil Weed' is safer than alcohol. If that shocks you, you better read this book. It could be a game changer."--Mike Gray, author of Drug Crazy: How We Got Into This Mess & How We Can get Out
"As the nation undergoes a shift in its thinking about drug policy, Marijuana is Safer offers a timely and forceful challenge to marijuana criminalization. Anyone with an interest in drug policy, whatever their perspective, should read this important work."--Alex Kreit, Director of the Center for Law and Social Justice, Thomas Jefferson School of Law
"The follies of marijuana prohibition have never been laid bare with more erudition and plain common sense. Marijuana Is Safer: So Why Are We Driving People to Drink? is a book every citizen needs to read, and a question we all have to raise our voices to ask."--Barbara Ehrenreich, bestselling author of Nickel and Dimed: On (Not) Getting By in America and This Land Is Their Land: Reports from a Divided Nation
"As one who has been entrusted with maintaining the public's safety, I strongly believe--and most people agree--that our laws should punish people who do harm to others. But by banning the use of marijuana and punishing individuals who merely possess the substance, it is difficult to see what harm we are trying to prevent. From my own work and the experiences of other members of the law enforcement community, it is abundantly clear that marijuana is rarely, if ever, the cause of disruptive or violent behavior. That marijuana causes very little social harm is reason enough in a free society to legalize it for adults. But as Steve, Paul, and Mason so brilliantly demonstrate in this book, an even more persuasive reason is that by prohibiting marijuana we are steering people toward a substance that far too many people already abuse, namely alcohol."--Norm Stamper, former Chief of the Seattle Police Department
"Our current draconian laws prohibiting the use of marijuana by responsible adults are doubly flawed. Not only does such prohibition violate fundamental freedoms but also, as this book documents, it undermines personal health and public safety. Regardless of your views on the civil liberties issues, this book should convince you of another compelling justification for marijuana law reform: that it will promote health and safety for all of us, including our nation's children."--Nadine Strossen, former President, American Civil Liberties Union, and Professor of Law, New York Law School
"I have always maintained that the legalization of marijuana would lead to an overall drop in substance abuse in this country. In particular, the option of legal marijuana use, as an alternative to the death and violence associated with alcohol use, would be a welcome societal change. Surprisingly, though, there has never been a book dedicated to conveying this basic idea to the public. But with Marijuana is Safer, now there is. Kudos to Fox, Armentano, and Tvert for their remarkably insightful and important book."--Gary Johnson, former Governor of New Mexico
"I took great pride in my performance on and off the field, and often questioned why our culture embraces alcohol while simultaneously stigmatizing those who choose to consume a less harmful alternative, marijuana. Marijuana Is Safer makes an irrefutable case for liberating current cannabis policy by comparing and contrasting its use with that of alcohol. This outstanding book makes it clear that it is inconsistent, both legally and socially, for our laws to punish adults who make the 'safer' choice.--Mark Stepnoski, five-time NFL Pro Bowler and two-time Superbowl champion with the Dallas Cowboys
"Finally, a book that confronts the half-baked hallucinations of a drug policy gone mad. By adroitly juxtaposing the harms of marijuana and alcohol, the book shows just how badly America has overdosed on senselessly stupid marijuana propaganda and the prohibition laws it produced. If you are one of the millions of Americans who support keeping marijuana illegal but enjoy a good beer, glass of wine or cocktail now and then, I suggest you read Marijuana is Safer, rehab your mind, and get high on the facts. If, on the other hand, you already believe our marijuana laws are illogical, this book will give you hope that change is in the air--and show you how you can do your part to push it along."--David Sirota, nationally syndicated columnist and bestselling author of The Uprising and Hostile Takeover
"Marijuana Is Safer is both informative and timely. It explains the effects and actions of marijuana upon the body in plain and easily understandable terms. Most importantly, it shows the reader why the use of marijuana is much safer than the use of many if not most legal substances, including over the counter medications, tobacco, and most certainly alcohol. As a physician and public health educator, I highly recommend this book."--Gregory T. Carter, M.D., M.S., Clinical Professor of Rehabilitation Medicine, University of Washington School of Medicine
"Culture and law feel, at times, impossible to change; and then suddenly we find ourselves in a whole new place. America smokes a lot of pot, America drinks a lot of booze, and pot has not always been outlawed - it stands to reason that law and culture will change again. This book seems to herald that change is now upon us. It is smart and clear and feels like common sense. Pot and drink are two drugs people commonly use and one causes a good deal more violence and tragedy. Let's at least legalize the other one. It's an excellent argument. But don't just take my word for it-read the book."--Jennifer Michael Hecht, PhD, author of The Happiness Myth
"Marijuana Is Safer provides an informative, enjoyable, comprehensive look at all aspects of the plant from the cellular to the societal. Readers who are new to the topic will find the pithy summaries of this complex literature easy to follow. Experts will welcome the up-to-the-minute references to the latest work on a vast range of topics. Even the most devoted prohibitionists will soon find themselves scratching their heads as they learn the history and rationale behind current laws. Everyone will finish the text convinced that current policies need a thorough and immediate re-examination."--Mitch Earleywine, PhD, author of Understanding Marijuana and editor of Pot Politics
"Marijuana Is Safer: So Why Are We Driving People to Drink? is the most extensive and up-to-date book I've ever read regarding adults' relationship with the cannabis plant. If you've ever questioned whether marijuana is an objectively safer alternative to alcohol, this book has the answers. As challenging as its conclusion may be to the political majority, this collection of thought-provoking facts cannot be ignored."--Rob Van Dam
former World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE)Heavyweight Champion and host of robvandam.com and RVDTV
"You'd think that the definitive case against prohibition of alcohol or other drugs had been made by now. But Steve Fox, Paul Armentano, and Mason Tvert offer a provocative new argument: that marijuana is actually safer to use than alcohol, so it's doubly dumb to ban the drug that's actually safer. Abstemious folks like myself may be surprised to hear that, but you'll find some solid evidence in this book."--David Boaz, Executive Vice President of the Cato Institute, and author of Libertarianism: A Primer and The Politics of Mmj Freedom
Review
"In this thoroughly documented account, Fox, Armentano, and Tvert have performed a public service. They have pulled the sheet off the lie that gave us marijuana prohibition. In truth, it turns out 'The Devil Weed' is safer than alcohol. If that shocks you, you better read this book. It could be a game changer."--Mike Gray, author of Drug Crazy: How We Got Into This Mess & How We Can get Out
"As the nation undergoes a shift in its thinking about drug policy, Marijuana is Safer offers a timely and forceful challenge to marijuana criminalization. Anyone with an interest in drug policy, whatever their perspective, should read this important work."--Alex Kreit, Director of the Center for Law and Social Justice, Thomas Jefferson School of Law
"The follies of marijuana prohibition have never been laid bare with more erudition and plain common sense. Marijuana Is Safer: So Why Are We Driving People to Drink? is a book every citizen needs to read, and a question we all have to raise our voices to ask."--Barbara Ehrenreich, bestselling author of Nickel and Dimed: On (Not) Getting By in America and This Land Is Their Land: Reports from a Divided Nation
"As one who has been entrusted with maintaining the public's safety, I strongly believe--and most people agree--that our laws should punish people who do harm to others. But by banning the use of marijuana and punishing individuals who merely possess the substance, it is difficult to see what harm we are trying to prevent. From my own work and the experiences of other members of the law enforcement community, it is abundantly clear that marijuana is rarely, if ever, the cause of disruptive or violent behavior. That marijuana causes very little social harm is reason enough in a free society to legalize it for adults. But as Steve, Paul, and Mason so brilliantly demonstrate in this book, an even more persuasive reason is that by prohibiting marijuana we are steering people toward a substance that far too many people already abuse, namely alcohol."--Norm Stamper, former Chief of the Seattle Police Department
"Our current draconian laws prohibiting the use of marijuana by responsible adults are doubly flawed. Not only does such prohibition violate fundamental freedoms but also, as this book documents, it undermines personal health and public safety. Regardless of your views on the civil liberties issues, this book should convince you of another compelling justification for marijuana law reform: that it will promote health and safety for all of us, including our nation's children."--Nadine Strossen, former President, American Civil Liberties Union, and Professor of Law, New York Law School
"I have always maintained that the legalization of marijuana would lead to an overall drop in substance abuse in this country. In particular, the option of legal marijuana use, as an alternative to the death and violence associated with alcohol use, would be a welcome societal change. Surprisingly, though, there has never been a book dedicated to conveying this basic idea to the public. But with Marijuana is Safer, now there is. Kudos to Fox, Armentano, and Tvert for their remarkably insightful and important book."--Gary Johnson, former Governor of New Mexico
"I took great pride in my performance on and off the field, and often questioned why our culture embraces alcohol while simultaneously stigmatizing those who choose to consume a less harmful alternative, marijuana. Marijuana Is Safer makes an irrefutable case for liberating current cannabis policy by comparing and contrasting its use with that of alcohol. This outstanding book makes it clear that it is inconsistent, both legally and socially, for our laws to punish adults who make the 'safer' choice.--Mark Stepnoski, five-time NFL Pro Bowler and two-time Superbowl champion with the Dallas Cowboys
"Finally, a book that confronts the half-baked hallucinations of a drug policy gone mad. By adroitly juxtaposing the harms of marijuana and alcohol, the book shows just how badly America has overdosed on senselessly stupid marijuana propaganda and the prohibition laws it produced. If you are one of the millions of Americans who support keeping marijuana illegal but enjoy a good beer, glass of wine or cocktail now and then, I suggest you read Marijuana is Safer, rehab your mind, and get high on the facts. If, on the other hand, you already believe our marijuana laws are illogical, this book will give you hope that change is in the air--and show you how you can do your part to push it along."--David Sirota, nationally syndicated columnist and bestselling author of The Uprising and Hostile Takeover
"Marijuana Is Safer is both informative and timely. It explains the effects and actions of marijuana upon the body in plain and easily understandable terms. Most importantly, it shows the reader why the use of marijuana is much safer than the use of many if not most legal substances, including over the counter medications, tobacco, and most certainly alcohol. As a physician and public health educator, I highly recommend this book."--Gregory T. Carter, M.D., M.S., Clinical Professor of Rehabilitation Medicine, University of Washington School of Medicine
"Culture and law feel, at times, impossible to change; and then suddenly we find ourselves in a whole new place. America smokes a lot of pot, America drinks a lot of booze, and pot has not always been outlawed - it stands to reason that law and culture will change again. This book seems to herald that change is now upon us. It is smart and clear and feels like common sense. Pot and drink are two drugs people commonly use and one causes a good deal more violence and tragedy. Let's at least legalize the other one. It's an excellent argument. But don't just take my word for it-read the book."--Jennifer Michael Hecht, PhD, author of The Happiness Myth
"Marijuana Is Safer provides an informative, enjoyable, comprehensive look at all aspects of the plant from the cellular to the societal. Readers who are new to the topic will find the pithy summaries of this complex literature easy to follow. Experts will welcome the up-to-the-minute references to the latest work on a vast range of topics. Even the most devoted prohibitionists will soon find themselves scratching their heads as they learn the history and rationale behind current laws. Everyone will finish the text convinced that current policies need a thorough and immediate re-examination."--Mitch Earleywine, PhD, author of Understanding Marijuana and editor of Pot Politics
"Marijuana Is Safer: So Why Are We Driving People to Drink? is the most extensive and up-to-date book I've ever read regarding adults' relationship with the cannabis plant. If you've ever questioned whether marijuana is an objectively safer alternative to alcohol, this book has the answers. As challenging as its conclusion may be to the political majority, this collection of thought-provoking facts cannot be ignored."--Rob Van Dam
former World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE)Heavyweight Champion and host of robvandam.com and RVDTV
"You'd think that the definitive case against prohibition of alcohol or other drugs had been made by now. But Steve Fox, Paul Armentano, and Mason Tvert offer a provocative new argument: that marijuana is actually safer to use than alcohol, so it's doubly dumb to ban the drug that's actually safer. Abstemious folks like myself may be surprised to hear that, but you'll find some solid evidence in this book."--David Boaz, Executive Vice President of the Cato Institute, and author of Libertarianism: A Primer and The Politics of Mmj Freedom
10 June 2012 18:32
Margus Meigo commented on Swamp People: Official Glenn and Mitchell Guist Fan Club's post.
Is that not kind of veird that we still lving in the word where we are afraid to share.. specially in ways that can only add not take
10 June 2012 17:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
besides that, going well? :)
10 June 2012 17:21
Margus Meigo commented on Eestimaa Armastajad's photo.
ups:d
10 June 2012 16:43
Margus Meigo commented on Cheryl-Anne Millsap - Freelance journalist/photographer's post.
Unfortunatelly this KGB place is to expensive for most of us, but for sure would like to see it once also :)
9 June 2012 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on Cheryl-Anne Millsap - Freelance journalist/photographer's post.
Greetings from Estland :)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Estonia/13485602046
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9 June 2012 00:51
Margus Meigo commented on Antti Räsänen's post.
Well, just make note here if anyone sends any as one has lost the on line banking pass, and office is to far, in to city - to just walk there for entertainment :)
8 June 2012 16:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kuidas juhtuda sai selline asi, et meil on õue ja mets toitu täis ja suurem osa eestlastest on täiesti teadmatud selle osas?
Ma arvasin kuni hiljaajani, et naat mürgine tarbimisel ja lausa paha taim kohe... nägese sõõmisest mõndade veidrike poolt olin ka kuulnud kuid tundus rohkem selline iganenud moe asi olevat... nu ja võilill maiseb lihtsalt kibedalt ju, jänesekapsas on ainuke asi... kuid kes seda viitsib korjata, pealegi oblikaid ju lihtsam noppida .p
Kuid jah... kuidas kogu see info eestlaste teadvusest sai ära pühitud ?
Tõepoolest, paar porgandit, mäned kartulid, naati ja kui veel on siis mõned lõigud punapeeti või muud rohelist... ja ei ole soola ega muid maitseaineid vaja, väga maitsev, eriti teistkordsel kuumutmaisel.
Ma arvasin kuni hiljaajani, et naat mürgine tarbimisel ja lausa paha taim kohe... nägese sõõmisest mõndade veidrike poolt olin ka kuulnud kuid tundus rohkem selline iganenud moe asi olevat... nu ja võilill maiseb lihtsalt kibedalt ju, jänesekapsas on ainuke asi... kuid kes seda viitsib korjata, pealegi oblikaid ju lihtsam noppida .p
Kuid jah... kuidas kogu see info eestlaste teadvusest sai ära pühitud ?
Tõepoolest, paar porgandit, mäned kartulid, naati ja kui veel on siis mõned lõigud punapeeti või muud rohelist... ja ei ole soola ega muid maitseaineid vaja, väga maitsev, eriti teistkordsel kuumutmaisel.
8 June 2012 16:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kõrvenõges
/nopi ja söö ettevaatlikult, kuid ka - täitsa söödav/
Üks esimesi umbrohtusid, kes kevadel oma nina mullast välja pistavad ja kõigi rohenäppude meeleolu rikuvad, on kõrvenõgesed. Aga neid on võimalik ka enda kasuks „tööle” panna. Nõges on hea looduslik vahend söögiisu tekitajana. Vanarahvas on öelnud nõgese kohta, et see on varre otsas kasvav tervis. Kuidas te seda ette kujutate, et kõrvetavat nõgest suhu pista, küsivad nüüd paljud. Kõigil on meil ju meeles lapsepõlve sügelevad jalasääred, sest alatihti sattus ringi joostes mõni nõges sääri kõrvetama. Aga vastus on tegelikult lihtne. Selleks, et süües suud ära ei kõrvetaks, on imelihtne nõgeselehed enne tarvitamist kuuma veega üle valada ja seejärel nõrutada. Nõgest võib kasutada peale seda samadel põhimõtetel ja samades roogades, kus tavalisel kasutatakse spinatit. Ehk siis erinevaid kasutusvõimalusi on määramatul hulgal, alates mahlaks pressimisest, kokteilides näiteks koos tomatiga või siis salatitena koos teiste kevadekuulutajatega, nagu näiteks rabarber, oblikas, murulauk. Samas sobib ka eestlasele hingelähedasele kartulisalatile maitsenüansside lisamiseks. Aga nõgesest saab ka vitamiinirikkaid suppe valmistada ja ta kõlbab hästi omleti- või pirukatäidiseks. Tee keetmiseks kogutakse kõrvenõgese lehti. Seda on hea teha suve esimesel poolel, siis ei ole lehed veel roosteplekke täis ja need jäävad kuivanult ilusateks rohelisteks. Tee jaoks võetakse teelusikatäis peenestatud lehti klaasi keeva vee kohta, segul lastakse jahtuda. Juuakse lonkshaaval üks klaasitäis päeva jooksul. Nõgesetee puhastab verd mürkainetest ja korrastab meie ainevahetust. Samuti on ta üldtugevdava toimega ja annab meile mitmeid vajalikke vitamiine. Nõgeseteed juuakse ka erinevate sisemiste verejooksude puhul. Nõgese tarvitamisel peab aga ka seda teadma, et üle paari nädala ei tohi seda teha. Lihtsalt, mõned nõgeses peituvad ained võivad meie vere normaalse hüübimise ära rikkuda. Nõgeselehtede keedist saab kasutada ka välispidiselt, näiteks reumavalude leevendamiseks. Nõgest võib igati vaadelda kui toidutaime. Nõgeselehtedest tehakse ka ohutut rohekat värvi nii toiduaine- kui ka ravimitööstusele. Heaks toiduks on nõgesed koduloomadele. Ning lõpuks võib nõgesevartest saada suurepärast kiudu nii riide, võrgu kui nööri punumiseks.
http://www.ajakirikook.ee/voilill-naat-janesekapsas-ja-korvenoges
/nopi ja söö ettevaatlikult, kuid ka - täitsa söödav/
Üks esimesi umbrohtusid, kes kevadel oma nina mullast välja pistavad ja kõigi rohenäppude meeleolu rikuvad, on kõrvenõgesed. Aga neid on võimalik ka enda kasuks „tööle” panna. Nõges on hea looduslik vahend söögiisu tekitajana. Vanarahvas on öelnud nõgese kohta, et see on varre otsas kasvav tervis. Kuidas te seda ette kujutate, et kõrvetavat nõgest suhu pista, küsivad nüüd paljud. Kõigil on meil ju meeles lapsepõlve sügelevad jalasääred, sest alatihti sattus ringi joostes mõni nõges sääri kõrvetama. Aga vastus on tegelikult lihtne. Selleks, et süües suud ära ei kõrvetaks, on imelihtne nõgeselehed enne tarvitamist kuuma veega üle valada ja seejärel nõrutada. Nõgest võib kasutada peale seda samadel põhimõtetel ja samades roogades, kus tavalisel kasutatakse spinatit. Ehk siis erinevaid kasutusvõimalusi on määramatul hulgal, alates mahlaks pressimisest, kokteilides näiteks koos tomatiga või siis salatitena koos teiste kevadekuulutajatega, nagu näiteks rabarber, oblikas, murulauk. Samas sobib ka eestlasele hingelähedasele kartulisalatile maitsenüansside lisamiseks. Aga nõgesest saab ka vitamiinirikkaid suppe valmistada ja ta kõlbab hästi omleti- või pirukatäidiseks. Tee keetmiseks kogutakse kõrvenõgese lehti. Seda on hea teha suve esimesel poolel, siis ei ole lehed veel roosteplekke täis ja need jäävad kuivanult ilusateks rohelisteks. Tee jaoks võetakse teelusikatäis peenestatud lehti klaasi keeva vee kohta, segul lastakse jahtuda. Juuakse lonkshaaval üks klaasitäis päeva jooksul. Nõgesetee puhastab verd mürkainetest ja korrastab meie ainevahetust. Samuti on ta üldtugevdava toimega ja annab meile mitmeid vajalikke vitamiine. Nõgeseteed juuakse ka erinevate sisemiste verejooksude puhul. Nõgese tarvitamisel peab aga ka seda teadma, et üle paari nädala ei tohi seda teha. Lihtsalt, mõned nõgeses peituvad ained võivad meie vere normaalse hüübimise ära rikkuda. Nõgeselehtede keedist saab kasutada ka välispidiselt, näiteks reumavalude leevendamiseks. Nõgest võib igati vaadelda kui toidutaime. Nõgeselehtedest tehakse ka ohutut rohekat värvi nii toiduaine- kui ka ravimitööstusele. Heaks toiduks on nõgesed koduloomadele. Ning lõpuks võib nõgesevartest saada suurepärast kiudu nii riide, võrgu kui nööri punumiseks.
http://www.ajakirikook.ee/voilill-naat-janesekapsas-ja-korvenoges
http://www.ajakirikook.ee/voilill-naat-janesekapsas-ja-korvenoges
8 June 2012 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Jänesekapsas
Üks tõeliselt maitsev taim, millest möödudes käsi nagu iseenesest ruttab teda noppima ja põske pistma. Oh seda õndsalt hapukat maitset! Ristikheinalehega sarnane taim võiks vabalt olla samuti oma kuju poolest püha, sest temalgi on ristikujuline ülesehitus. Jänesekapsast tunnevad ilmselt kõik, kuid üldiselt pole teada faktiks see, et jänesekapsaid on maailmas mitusada liiki. Eesti looduses kasvab neist vaid üks – harilik jänesekapsas. Paljusid teisi jänesekapsa liike kasvatatakse dekoratiivsete lehtede ja vahel ka õite pärast nii koduaedades lillepeenardel ning isegi toas potitaimena. Jänesekapsas on suurepärane lisand nii värsketesse salatitesse kui ka lihtsalt võileivale kauniks ja maitsvaks lisandiks. Nii salatit kui suppi võib valmistada igast jänesekapsa maapealsest osast, kuid vitamiini C poolest on eriti rikkad tema lehed. Jänesekapsas sisaldab veel muidki kasulikke aineid, mistõttu ta sobib kevadisel vitamiinivaesel ajal peenestatult salatite sekka või hapukoore ja vähese soolaga keedukartulite juurde (soovi korral võib lisada muidugi ka muid maitseaineid). Sobib muidugi ka lihtsalt toorelt nii magusate puuvilja- või marjasalatitega, aga ka soolastele ampsude kaunistamiseks. Proovi näiteks salatina koos õunte, rosinate, pähklite ja õlikastmega. Või siis isegi šokolaadikoogile väikseks roheliseks aktsendiks. Jänesekapsa suures koguses tarvitamine ärritab aga neere ja sellest tuleks hoiduda. Üle ei tasuks pingutada, kuna jänesekapsas sisaldab oksaalhapet (oblikhape), nagu rabarber ja oblikas. Kevadisi värskeid lehti kasutatakse aga söögiisu tõstmiseks ja ravi otstarbel – alahappesusega gastriidi (maokatarri) korral. Taimedest välja pressitud mahla (või ka purustatud lehti) pannakse kasvajatele ja paisetele, samuti vanadele halvasti paranevatele haavadele. Mahla, lahjendatud veega vahekorras 1:4, kasutatakse suu loputamiseks suu limaskesta põletiku korral.
Üks tõeliselt maitsev taim, millest möödudes käsi nagu iseenesest ruttab teda noppima ja põske pistma. Oh seda õndsalt hapukat maitset! Ristikheinalehega sarnane taim võiks vabalt olla samuti oma kuju poolest püha, sest temalgi on ristikujuline ülesehitus. Jänesekapsast tunnevad ilmselt kõik, kuid üldiselt pole teada faktiks see, et jänesekapsaid on maailmas mitusada liiki. Eesti looduses kasvab neist vaid üks – harilik jänesekapsas. Paljusid teisi jänesekapsa liike kasvatatakse dekoratiivsete lehtede ja vahel ka õite pärast nii koduaedades lillepeenardel ning isegi toas potitaimena. Jänesekapsas on suurepärane lisand nii värsketesse salatitesse kui ka lihtsalt võileivale kauniks ja maitsvaks lisandiks. Nii salatit kui suppi võib valmistada igast jänesekapsa maapealsest osast, kuid vitamiini C poolest on eriti rikkad tema lehed. Jänesekapsas sisaldab veel muidki kasulikke aineid, mistõttu ta sobib kevadisel vitamiinivaesel ajal peenestatult salatite sekka või hapukoore ja vähese soolaga keedukartulite juurde (soovi korral võib lisada muidugi ka muid maitseaineid). Sobib muidugi ka lihtsalt toorelt nii magusate puuvilja- või marjasalatitega, aga ka soolastele ampsude kaunistamiseks. Proovi näiteks salatina koos õunte, rosinate, pähklite ja õlikastmega. Või siis isegi šokolaadikoogile väikseks roheliseks aktsendiks. Jänesekapsa suures koguses tarvitamine ärritab aga neere ja sellest tuleks hoiduda. Üle ei tasuks pingutada, kuna jänesekapsas sisaldab oksaalhapet (oblikhape), nagu rabarber ja oblikas. Kevadisi värskeid lehti kasutatakse aga söögiisu tõstmiseks ja ravi otstarbel – alahappesusega gastriidi (maokatarri) korral. Taimedest välja pressitud mahla (või ka purustatud lehti) pannakse kasvajatele ja paisetele, samuti vanadele halvasti paranevatele haavadele. Mahla, lahjendatud veega vahekorras 1:4, kasutatakse suu loputamiseks suu limaskesta põletiku korral.
8 June 2012 16:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Võilill
/minu arust on see endiselt kibe../
Sellel taime puhul võib tõesti öelda, et kõik taime osad on söödavad. Väga kasulik umbrohi, sest pidevalt teda toiduks tarvitades saate oma õuemuru puhtaks ja tervise korda. Eriliselt soovitatav taim suhkruhaigetele. Väidetaval võib võilill toidus asendada isegi soola. Võilill soodustab seedimist, puhastab verd, sisaldab rikkalikult mineraalaineid: rauda, kaltsiumi, fosforit, eriti ohtralt mangaani ning C-, B2-, PP- ja A-vitamiini. Võilille noored lehed sobivad eriti hästi salatitesse. Kuna lehed on pisut kibeda maitsega, on neid hea segada salatilehtedega, mis on neutraalsemate maitsetega. Hea on meeles pidada, et taimekodara sisemised lehed on alati hõrgumad ja samas ei tee paha ka enne kasutamist lehti umbes pool tundi külmas vees hoida. Proovi ka salatit võilillelehtedest, rohelisest sibulast, hapukurgist, keedetud munast ja serveeri kõik see jogurti- või eestlastele meelepärase hapukoorekastmega. Võilill on ka hea maitsesõber seentega. Õied on aga suurepärane meematerjal. Maitsva ravimee saate, kui segate tavalise mee värskete kevadiste õielehtedega. Saadus sobib hiljem eriti hästi lihamarinaadidesse või õlist ja sidrunimahlast kastme magustamiseks. Aga ka lihtsalt saiale määrimiseks. Kui peate mesilasi, siis on võililledelt korjatud mesi tõeliseks hõrgutiseks. Osavamad taimesõbrad oskavad võilille õitest valmistada isegi maitsvat veini. Kasulikud on ka noored õisikuvarred. Juurest valmistatkse kohvi, mahla, aga isegi keediseid koos metsamarjadega. Taim puhastab verd, vähendab kolesterooli, kehvveresust, vähendab verd vedeldades infarkti- ja insuldiohtu. Reguleerib organismis veresuhkru taset. Võilill soodustab ka neerude ja maksa tegevust, tõstab sapieritust, on hea kõhunäärmele ja kaksteistsõrmikule. Tal on ka kasvajaid pidurdav toime, mis on ju eriti hea omadus. Igal kevadel soovitavad spetsialistid ette võtta üks korralik võilillekuur. Selleks tuleks iga päev ja vähemalt 10 päeva järjest viis kuni seitse noort võilillevart suus aeglaselt peeneks närida ja alla neelata. See võilillekuur aitab kamaluga jõudu ja tervist säilitada. Alguses tunduvad lillevarred küll kibedad, kuid see on harjumuse asi.
/minu arust on see endiselt kibe../
Sellel taime puhul võib tõesti öelda, et kõik taime osad on söödavad. Väga kasulik umbrohi, sest pidevalt teda toiduks tarvitades saate oma õuemuru puhtaks ja tervise korda. Eriliselt soovitatav taim suhkruhaigetele. Väidetaval võib võilill toidus asendada isegi soola. Võilill soodustab seedimist, puhastab verd, sisaldab rikkalikult mineraalaineid: rauda, kaltsiumi, fosforit, eriti ohtralt mangaani ning C-, B2-, PP- ja A-vitamiini. Võilille noored lehed sobivad eriti hästi salatitesse. Kuna lehed on pisut kibeda maitsega, on neid hea segada salatilehtedega, mis on neutraalsemate maitsetega. Hea on meeles pidada, et taimekodara sisemised lehed on alati hõrgumad ja samas ei tee paha ka enne kasutamist lehti umbes pool tundi külmas vees hoida. Proovi ka salatit võilillelehtedest, rohelisest sibulast, hapukurgist, keedetud munast ja serveeri kõik see jogurti- või eestlastele meelepärase hapukoorekastmega. Võilill on ka hea maitsesõber seentega. Õied on aga suurepärane meematerjal. Maitsva ravimee saate, kui segate tavalise mee värskete kevadiste õielehtedega. Saadus sobib hiljem eriti hästi lihamarinaadidesse või õlist ja sidrunimahlast kastme magustamiseks. Aga ka lihtsalt saiale määrimiseks. Kui peate mesilasi, siis on võililledelt korjatud mesi tõeliseks hõrgutiseks. Osavamad taimesõbrad oskavad võilille õitest valmistada isegi maitsvat veini. Kasulikud on ka noored õisikuvarred. Juurest valmistatkse kohvi, mahla, aga isegi keediseid koos metsamarjadega. Taim puhastab verd, vähendab kolesterooli, kehvveresust, vähendab verd vedeldades infarkti- ja insuldiohtu. Reguleerib organismis veresuhkru taset. Võilill soodustab ka neerude ja maksa tegevust, tõstab sapieritust, on hea kõhunäärmele ja kaksteistsõrmikule. Tal on ka kasvajaid pidurdav toime, mis on ju eriti hea omadus. Igal kevadel soovitavad spetsialistid ette võtta üks korralik võilillekuur. Selleks tuleks iga päev ja vähemalt 10 päeva järjest viis kuni seitse noort võilillevart suus aeglaselt peeneks närida ja alla neelata. See võilillekuur aitab kamaluga jõudu ja tervist säilitada. Alguses tunduvad lillevarred küll kibedad, kuid see on harjumuse asi.
8 June 2012 16:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Veel naadist:
Naadist võib valmistada ka teed. (1 tl peenestatud lehti 1 kl kuumale veele). Tee aromatiseerimiseks sobib lisada piparmünti, melissi, kasepungi. Naat sobib ka tinktuuride ja salvide valmistamiseks. Õlitinktuuride valmistamiseks valatakse see otse droogile (tumedasse purki) ja lastakse paar nädalat aknal päikese käes seista. Seejärel õli kurnatakse ja hoitakse edaspidi jahedas kohas, valguse eest kaitstult. Piirituse või viinaga toimeaineid välja ekstrahheerides on meetod sama, ainult võib hoida koos ürdiga lühemat aega enne kurnamist (pidevalt loksutada!).
Reumahaiged võiks teha naadivanne. Selleks valatakse taimedele kuum vesi ja soojendatakse vett veidi pliidil, kuni bioloogiliselt aktiivsed ained eralduvad. Leotis kurnatakse ja valatakse vannivette. Kevadisest naadist saab valmistada ka mahla. On küll üsna tülikas toiming, kuid saame kiirelt kätte bioloogiliselt aktiivsed toimeained, vitamiinid, mineraalained. Suuremal hulgal valmistades võib kergelt pastöriseerida, sulgeda õhukindlalt ja hoida külmkapis. Kevadiste lehtede hoidistamiseks võib kasutada ka sügavkülmikut või kuivatada. Hea podagraravimina tuleks siiski mõelda kuivatamisele, olgugi et eriti populaarseks ravimtaimeks rahva hulgas pole kujunenud. Korjata tuleks päikesepaistelise ilmaga - on aromaatsem ja toime tugevam. Eelistada tuleks kevadist korjet, siis on naadis rohkelt eeterlikke õlisid.
Naati kasutatakse toiduvalmistamisel kas iseseisva salatina või suppides, vormiroogades jt. Naati võib kasutada toiduks kogu suve, kuid ikka noori lehti. Naadilehed sobivad paljude taimedega kasutada, eriti salatites, kuid valmistada võib ka iseseisvana. Lisada võib hiirekõrva, võilille, põdrakanepi, jänesekapsa, paiselehe, hapuoblika lehti ja kultuurtaimedest rabarberit, tomatit, kurki jms. Salatit võib segada kastmetega, kasutades õli, hapukoort, majoneesi, maitsestamata jogurtit, kefiiri, petti jm. Salatikastmed võib maitsestada peterselli, küüslaugu pealsetega, kresssalatiga, piparrohuga, tilliga, aedliivateega jm.
Naat rikastab liha- ja kalarooga, piima- või leivasuppi. Võib lisada hautistele, kotlettidele, pikkpoissi, pannkoogi- või pirukataignasse (täidisesse). Peenestatud naadilehti võib lisada ka kala-, liha- või kartulisalatisse.
Võib ka marineerida ja hapendada. Vähese soola ja suhkruga marinaadis, millele lisatud piparrohtu või aed-liivateed, tuleb lehed kõigepealt kergelt läbi keeta. Seejärel nõrutatakse vedelikust ja süüakse kui lisandit või iseseisvana. Samas võib nad tihedalt purki laduda, uuesti marinaad peale valada ja kohe sulgeda. Naadilehed sobivad ka hapendamiseks, parem koos kapsa, hapuoblika, võilille või nõgesega. Eelnevalt töödeldakse naadilehti keeva veega, nõrutatakse sõelal kuivemaks ja laotakse siis purki soolaga kihiti. Tambitakse kinni, peale pannakse marli ja vajutiseks raskus. Purgi võib ka kaanega õhukindlalt sulgeda. Hapendatud taimed sobivad hästi toorsalatitesse ja suppidesse.
Naati võib ka soolata, siinjuures maitsestamiseks sobivad paremini till, majoraan ja petersell.
Naadist võib valmistada ka teed. (1 tl peenestatud lehti 1 kl kuumale veele). Tee aromatiseerimiseks sobib lisada piparmünti, melissi, kasepungi. Naat sobib ka tinktuuride ja salvide valmistamiseks. Õlitinktuuride valmistamiseks valatakse see otse droogile (tumedasse purki) ja lastakse paar nädalat aknal päikese käes seista. Seejärel õli kurnatakse ja hoitakse edaspidi jahedas kohas, valguse eest kaitstult. Piirituse või viinaga toimeaineid välja ekstrahheerides on meetod sama, ainult võib hoida koos ürdiga lühemat aega enne kurnamist (pidevalt loksutada!).
Reumahaiged võiks teha naadivanne. Selleks valatakse taimedele kuum vesi ja soojendatakse vett veidi pliidil, kuni bioloogiliselt aktiivsed ained eralduvad. Leotis kurnatakse ja valatakse vannivette. Kevadisest naadist saab valmistada ka mahla. On küll üsna tülikas toiming, kuid saame kiirelt kätte bioloogiliselt aktiivsed toimeained, vitamiinid, mineraalained. Suuremal hulgal valmistades võib kergelt pastöriseerida, sulgeda õhukindlalt ja hoida külmkapis. Kevadiste lehtede hoidistamiseks võib kasutada ka sügavkülmikut või kuivatada. Hea podagraravimina tuleks siiski mõelda kuivatamisele, olgugi et eriti populaarseks ravimtaimeks rahva hulgas pole kujunenud. Korjata tuleks päikesepaistelise ilmaga - on aromaatsem ja toime tugevam. Eelistada tuleks kevadist korjet, siis on naadis rohkelt eeterlikke õlisid.
Naati kasutatakse toiduvalmistamisel kas iseseisva salatina või suppides, vormiroogades jt. Naati võib kasutada toiduks kogu suve, kuid ikka noori lehti. Naadilehed sobivad paljude taimedega kasutada, eriti salatites, kuid valmistada võib ka iseseisvana. Lisada võib hiirekõrva, võilille, põdrakanepi, jänesekapsa, paiselehe, hapuoblika lehti ja kultuurtaimedest rabarberit, tomatit, kurki jms. Salatit võib segada kastmetega, kasutades õli, hapukoort, majoneesi, maitsestamata jogurtit, kefiiri, petti jm. Salatikastmed võib maitsestada peterselli, küüslaugu pealsetega, kresssalatiga, piparrohuga, tilliga, aedliivateega jm.
Naat rikastab liha- ja kalarooga, piima- või leivasuppi. Võib lisada hautistele, kotlettidele, pikkpoissi, pannkoogi- või pirukataignasse (täidisesse). Peenestatud naadilehti võib lisada ka kala-, liha- või kartulisalatisse.
Võib ka marineerida ja hapendada. Vähese soola ja suhkruga marinaadis, millele lisatud piparrohtu või aed-liivateed, tuleb lehed kõigepealt kergelt läbi keeta. Seejärel nõrutatakse vedelikust ja süüakse kui lisandit või iseseisvana. Samas võib nad tihedalt purki laduda, uuesti marinaad peale valada ja kohe sulgeda. Naadilehed sobivad ka hapendamiseks, parem koos kapsa, hapuoblika, võilille või nõgesega. Eelnevalt töödeldakse naadilehti keeva veega, nõrutatakse sõelal kuivemaks ja laotakse siis purki soolaga kihiti. Tambitakse kinni, peale pannakse marli ja vajutiseks raskus. Purgi võib ka kaanega õhukindlalt sulgeda. Hapendatud taimed sobivad hästi toorsalatitesse ja suppidesse.
Naati võib ka soolata, siinjuures maitsestamiseks sobivad paremini till, majoraan ja petersell.
8 June 2012 16:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I actually have not seen it jet, but thought you might like it, will take look also soon as time arrives.
Let me know, how it was, was there anything we do not know jet, or some contridictions
My self.. well, beliving, we can do It :)
Let me know, how it was, was there anything we do not know jet, or some contridictions
My self.. well, beliving, we can do It :)
8 June 2012 14:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Huggs and light Nico :)
8 June 2012 14:02
Margus Meigo commented on Antti Räsänen's post.
Perhaps is not my time jet, to not be :)
8 June 2012 13:59
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
irw, kindlasti on ka mehi kes nendest soovitusest vähemalt paari usub, vaesed naised :D
8 June 2012 02:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkqrI3IibYI
More humor from 2000 to 2008 http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms2006.htm
Well, still, one of my favorite guys must say, newer was famous for making popular choices :p
More humor from 2000 to 2008 http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms2006.htm
Well, still, one of my favorite guys must say, newer was famous for making popular choices :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkqrI3IibYI
8 June 2012 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Was always wandering in old times, how is he pulling off things like that http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-july-13-2006/pig-thing in places like that "Germany on crisis in the Middle East"
"President Bush and German Chancellor Merkel Discuss Middle East Crisis (July 13, 2006) "
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/bushmerkel.html
Gotta have balls for that, or high
or 2 in 1
"President Bush and German Chancellor Merkel Discuss Middle East Crisis (July 13, 2006) "
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/bushmerkel.html
Gotta have balls for that, or high
or 2 in 1
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-july-13-2006/pig-thing
8 June 2012 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's photo.
On olla uhke selle famiilja liige :)
7 June 2012 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on Calvin Smith's post.
and while you sleep - you can wake up in another reality, or no? :)
7 June 2012 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on George Washington Masonic National Memorial's photo.
Seems like nice fellow, but still wearing tie
but its for the picture perhaps :)
but its for the picture perhaps :)
7 June 2012 23:07
Margus Meigo commented on William Floyd's photo.
No idea how you find all these images on your profile, but keep it up .)
7 June 2012 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on William Floyd's photo.
well, we can hope that at least one made a fortune
7 June 2012 13:13
Margus Meigo commented on Antti Räsänen's post.
seems possible that we newer really go to sleep :)
7 June 2012 13:12
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's photo.
Jumalast tuttavad võiks kohe õeda :p
7 June 2012 13:05
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's photo.
Pailapsiin :)
6 June 2012 23:24
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's photo.
just need to get proper wight Ilya :)
6 June 2012 23:19
Margus Meigo commented on William Floyd's photo.
"so this what we must put up with while being companion of these human kinds"
5 June 2012 15:39
Margus Meigo commented on William Floyd's photo.
Deep eyes :)
5 June 2012 15:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
not
5 June 2012 07:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Are we getting much to loud? Seems to be hard, in current face-book
5 June 2012 07:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFCSXr6qnv4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFCSXr6qnv4
5 June 2012 07:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R8tRKIiAII&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R8tRKIiAII
5 June 2012 07:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=w9pdWQT1_8E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9pdWQT1_8E
5 June 2012 07:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"Ei saagi oodata, et inimesed sellest enamuses aru saaksid, see ei olegi määratud selleks"
1989 Mart. M.
1989 Mart. M.
5 June 2012 06:35
Margus Meigo commented on Antti Räsänen's post.
(iban: EE713300 333905010008 Sampo Bank)
5 June 2012 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on Albert McClelland's post.
available on-line as well ? :)
5 June 2012 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on Antti Räsänen's post.
Abok Services OÜ / 333905010008
Note: DoNation Bill 2012
Everything that can be found from there will be always put in best use we can, starting with food for soul
(: will forward the thanks
Note: DoNation Bill 2012
Everything that can be found from there will be always put in best use we can, starting with food for soul
(: will forward the thanks
5 June 2012 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Issue 9 of LSD Magazine is out now. Bursting at the digital seams with sizzling art, searching interviews, slamming music, a dash of politics, a twinkle of humor and a whisper of
quantum physics – another epic issue is LIVE
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4 June 2012 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuid wast parem hilja kui ei mitte kunagigi:)
3 June 2012 23:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
natuke hilja laigid :p
3 June 2012 23:52
Margus Meigo commented on Lea Pullerits's link.
Thats how it gos :)
3 June 2012 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's photo.
*who might feel to be related, but most, know better :)
3 June 2012 22:25
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's photo.
Well, but then again we say Hello, to Businesses, News, Gov and military programming, strange choice it might seem to some of the 3 billion under these sings :)
3 June 2012 22:24
Margus Meigo commented on Arvo Soomets's post.
Group: Maagiline Matrix
Arvo, kas sa Tõesti usud, et inimene saab teada mitut Protsenti ta ei tea? :)31 May 2012 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
(one is not just bitching here)
few startup Reasons to keep similar threads under one place:
1. people related to The news, who was interested about It will get notification about new post and the post will generate more replies that are more insightful, relevant
2. if your link happen to be duplicate one it will not bother (entire) group so much as only ppl interested about that news will get notification
3. People/new members, will not be scared away from the group or feel discussed to see that most of the last news are copy paste from latest headlines or some emotional lines about the headlines that are no way educative or relevant or important as separate topic
4. - why its important again?
if we clutter group wall with copies of similar news then we might totally miss the important news that someone posts between it. + many of us might just press "ignore erowid updates" after same stuff comes and comes..
and hey - fellow members, feel no way "u talking to mee??" about it as its for everyone, for future references, many posts here end up because one even does not know there is topic like that + the sheering feature from newspapers.. it clutters communication (as posted does not know that similar topic exists), will work out that feature with fb soon enough hopefully that admin/mode or owner can pin/attach similar topic under one thread. No idea why so many basics are still gone from fb core,
fault of mine also perhaps, will go in to that later..31 May 2012 23:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
(lsd thing is pretty serious, we should look up, Search and D.. the police man who apparently give this comment, lets find ones contacts and everything, lets do something - do we have people who know people from Miami / related reporters/police workers .. from us, how hard is to find info like that??)31 May 2012 23:10
Margus Meigo commented on Arvo Soomets's post.
Group: Maagiline Matrix
ärhe olge ebakindlad, olge julged :)31 May 2012 22:37
Margus Meigo commented on Arvo Soomets's post.
Group: Maagiline Matrix
oot kus mu komentaar siit kadus ?31 May 2012 22:37
Margus Meigo commented on Crystal Ra Laksmi-Ditton's post.
Group: Avardu Mine
Mis mõttes, juba muutus ära ju : )31 May 2012 11:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
või võsapetsiga hängima, weee!
31 May 2012 11:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
we have sayng ower here, perhaps its global one: The Lords Zoo is Colorful31 May 2012 11:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
ups, went to estonian with party: "ma mõtlesin et kas politseinukul ei olnud alguses huvi seda asja uurida, et" "thought if policeman did not have intrest in beginning investigate this happening from closer, like.."31 May 2012 11:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
jup, same here, like to throw in some black humor (not in rassist way) ma mõtlesin et kas politseinukul ei olnud alguses huvi seda asja uurida, et how is that possible... , like seriously, how does he do it, will call my mates ower while taping it, the other fellow has no face anyway to put it to any kind of book in this life31 May 2012 11:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
will tape it
31 May 2012 11:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kati, vii parem poodi ja ytle, et mis värk on, tule taevas appi, petate siin lihtsaid heausklike risti-inimesi, thatsin osta Milla piima kuid sain Farmi jogurti, what kind of sourcery is it, whats up with that mään? Will throw it to the g... või lähen tarbijakaitsesse , give me Milla või mõne muu lehma piima,
palun :)
(ja siis tee sellised armsa kassipoja silmad pähe ja vaata heausklikult lootusrikka õnsusega sügavale silma )
palun :)
(ja siis tee sellised armsa kassipoja silmad pähe ja vaata heausklikult lootusrikka õnsusega sügavale silma )
31 May 2012 11:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
:D
31 May 2012 11:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ei nuh , neid ma joon kahesuupoolega mis paar päeva yle läinud... well, mu rekord oli yks mis kuuaega vana oli kuid see juba oli mingiks muuks aineks muutunud, literaly
31 May 2012 11:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
not to confuse with milf
31 May 2012 11:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
milk gone wild
31 May 2012 11:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
thont throw it to the ground http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ&ob=av3e :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ&ob=av3e
31 May 2012 11:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ahjaa, Kati - Smell it next time!
31 May 2012 11:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kati ka, vb see juhtub inimestega kellega ma hänginud olen, ur next Maiken, be aware of milkaJogurtiser :p
31 May 2012 11:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ma kujutan ette kui rahul sa oma hommikuga olid kui selel kohvi peale valasid :D
31 May 2012 11:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kas sul ka lõhnas kati ?
31 May 2012 11:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
seda arvasingi alguses, kuid siis tuli meelde, et eile ol isee veel piim
31 May 2012 11:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(viisin Antile ka, juhuks kui ma imuune olen siis näha mida ta keha selle peale ütleb :p )
31 May 2012 11:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
lõhnas magusalt nagu meeldiv jogurt, see oli suht kahtlane, arvasin alguses korraks oma paranoias et keegi mu kylmkapikallal käinud ja seal miskit woodot teinud :d... kuid vast oli pikne nagu Raul arvas.. oli välku eile ?
31 May 2012 11:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nu mul hapnema ei läinud, ta läks... selliseks omapäraseks, yle öö, siidjaseks jogurtiks mis maitses suht omapäraselt
31 May 2012 11:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
korraldan siin väikest toidu maagiat ja limiitide testimist, what can be eated mis millega segades - soola, pipra ja suhkru vabalt, as of now - it has been almoust everything :p
31 May 2012 11:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Hilja juba, pooled koogid juba söödud, bdw kui sa seda hapenud pudru oleksid näinud mis sinna sisse segasin koos praekartulite ja sibulaga siis sa ei muretseks vist piima pärast :D
31 May 2012 10:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
True, true..31 May 2012 10:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
Well, as i told, no joking mater actually.
We should be wiser then that even thought one here have been long fan of dark humor
but someone told that every joke in the end is evil,
and why?
as there is some one, some where, who do not find it funny, who do not get it... and in return serious conflict can come out and hey - the one who did not get it, has the right, in situations like that.
For example, if it would be ordinary child, and ones mother who has been long time member of the group would... would she Like the jokes here? If there would be higher (as high as one can be) minds from ˇother dimensionsˇ - would they drop some humoristic or face eating one liners here to spice up the conversation ?
Not wanting to be a downer.. just need to have to say it, for future references, for the one who will need this on their road
Will work on explanations, why its so in future times but for now - lets try to find out, is there some news out did there was some chemicals on ones body and hey.. what news would we be expecting from the lab when ppl there discover that there was something seriously different going on with this dude.. when man in black seal the lab room one can expect some interesting results inside that you will perhaps newer hear about, unless something gos wrong or really really right31 May 2012 10:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
True, true
30 May 2012 23:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
seep meelest oli läinud, midagi räägiti jup lapsepõlves, et myredaks läheb vms, kuid lausa lõhnvaks jogurtiks, mmm peab veel uurima mis majas muutunud on, ehk muutub vesi ämbris veniks vms :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAbbBtc_jZQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAbbBtc_jZQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAbbBtc_jZQ
30 May 2012 23:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aaap.. hmm.oot meil oli pikne ?
30 May 2012 23:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
retooriline küsimus, et kas normaalne, kuid... how it can be?
Mysteris of the universe, the Uni-Verse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUWHGm4RdJ8
Mysteris of the universe, the Uni-Verse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUWHGm4RdJ8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUWHGm4RdJ8
30 May 2012 23:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
as as Wilson wonders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEOIfLcjdbg#t=1m35shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEOIfLcjdbg#t=1m35s
30 May 2012 21:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
strange, they newer use "perhaps" while talking about terrorizers in some TV :D30 May 2012 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
but still, one over here just can not see ANY reason for reasoning swearing - nothing to do with being soft or free speech, its just matter of how we look at the world, and how clean we want to keep it - from all these things (mental and physical) that do Not benefit us, actually, at All.
Its like telling one has free will to take crap on everyones plate - well, might not bother me so much, would look it as something quite intriguing/stirring activity to spice up a gray day but for some it might be pretty harsh experience. And why do it, - others life harsh around us, even if we do not give a rat*s crack about their shallow looking cell life and imaginary values ones are tripping on.
One here swear freely some years ago to spice up emotions, but once one realized how childish/lame it is from one corner and how we do not lose anything by not swearing - it changed some my thoughts and language patters. ( it might have to do something with acid/hashish trip - cant clearly recall anymore, it evolved over time whit realization how we make our world with language, and it seems, some words do not fit in to some states of mind.
as some Some words fly around like spit, and some words seems to be put here to dumb our communication down while others causing unneeded unpredictable emotional sparks with random minds.... bah, and screw it, went to long with thätˇs :D
Its like telling one has free will to take crap on everyones plate - well, might not bother me so much, would look it as something quite intriguing/stirring activity to spice up a gray day but for some it might be pretty harsh experience. And why do it, - others life harsh around us, even if we do not give a rat*s crack about their shallow looking cell life and imaginary values ones are tripping on.
One here swear freely some years ago to spice up emotions, but once one realized how childish/lame it is from one corner and how we do not lose anything by not swearing - it changed some my thoughts and language patters. ( it might have to do something with acid/hashish trip - cant clearly recall anymore, it evolved over time whit realization how we make our world with language, and it seems, some words do not fit in to some states of mind.
as some Some words fly around like spit, and some words seems to be put here to dumb our communication down while others causing unneeded unpredictable emotional sparks with random minds.... bah, and screw it, went to long with thätˇs :D
30 May 2012 21:29
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
(lol, to look the purchasing power that we have few times less it makes price more like 40 to 50 dollars per gram)
30 May 2012 21:03
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
jup, Florida is pretty unlucky one, and the Florida CAN website was also down, so was not able to see how their are doing... strange, by the name one would say - sunny place, lots of weed :P
In here, if one gets cough with 20+ grams its criminal offense and can be up to 5 years in prison, less then 20 grams one can get away easily - with few months pay and short arrest time. Selling 20+ grams is.. up to 15 years in prison. ..and price is per gram 15 to 20 euros (25 dollars)... unless one buys "a lot" 10g - then price can be as "low" as 10-12euros. But for average people it can take some week or so to find weed in here unless one moves around with one of the 30 hippies who we have here per country :D
I guess its a bit similar in Florida also, but .. in general for usa, it is much softer right ?
In here, if one gets cough with 20+ grams its criminal offense and can be up to 5 years in prison, less then 20 grams one can get away easily - with few months pay and short arrest time. Selling 20+ grams is.. up to 15 years in prison. ..and price is per gram 15 to 20 euros (25 dollars)... unless one buys "a lot" 10g - then price can be as "low" as 10-12euros. But for average people it can take some week or so to find weed in here unless one moves around with one of the 30 hippies who we have here per country :D
I guess its a bit similar in Florida also, but .. in general for usa, it is much softer right ?
30 May 2012 20:54
Margus Meigo commented on Sean McKernan's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
We was waiting for you mate :)30 May 2012 20:09
Margus Meigo commented on Ashley Michaud's link.
But he plays pretty good (y), just the singing part.. would recommend, next time to take at least 2-3 times bigger dosage, (as you was walking and playing piano - clearly was not enough) - try not to smoke or do any caffeine or anything few days before, if possible.. and then , keep you eyes closed, whatever happens in first 2-3 hours, then... remember my words about respect and think how to represent next time, something that can give a human a soul, back
350 mic of lsd would also do good opening, just remember to stay in place, no talking, every time you want to open with your ordinary eyes you will not see
350 mic of lsd would also do good opening, just remember to stay in place, no talking, every time you want to open with your ordinary eyes you will not see
30 May 2012 05:31
Margus Meigo commented on Ashley Michaud's link.
Please, a bit more respect
30 May 2012 05:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
drugs-forum.com is also pretty good : )30 May 2012 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
jup, im meber there30 May 2012 04:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
Hey - can you add me to contacts, as fb does not allow me to do it, again .. .)30 May 2012 04:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
it seems to me like military drug case, as there is many they use as on lab rats, not exactly as the one here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-Quinuclidinyl_benzilate perhaps.. but who knows..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-Quinuclidinyl_benzilate
30 May 2012 04:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
Well, this is not your fault the made wikipedia like that... i am on board of wiki estonia and this is serious problem - almost no one from older generation knows how to edit wiki and hey.. to be honest my self, really really do not like it a bit, must change this, was on the list "things to change in world" anyways30 May 2012 04:29
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
Still, there is always better options then swearing (unless you are bill hicks or something), besides - lucky, how lucky are these people who have had access to medical cannabis at least for some time, most of the western world does not share this kind of privilege, jet, so insted we could smile and be happy as "cool, we managed to get medicine at least so long, lucky us!!"
But jep, i feel you man. Insane world,
But jep, i feel you man. Insane world,
30 May 2012 04:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
Can you please do it, its kind of freaky the info that is in wiki right now compared to the info that has been long known about it, they started to make this article something 2006 it seems from revision30 May 2012 04:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
How many copys can you find from google, of this news?
http://www.threechords.org/gu-mobile/index.php/browse/article/world_2003_sep_14_iraq1
Wiki says:
"In a 2008 news report, trihexyphenidyl has been used recreationally among Iraqi soldiers and police, among other prescription drugs. The report states that the drugs were taken to relieve combat stress"
and thats about it
( http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/world/middleeast/21drugs.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all )
Well, i guess its all one experiment... to find perfect drugs for different uses, for war uses for examplehttp://www.threechords.org/gu-mobile/index.php/browse/article/world_2003_sep_14_iraq1
30 May 2012 04:05
Margus Meigo commented on Angela Davis's post.
Group: Unplugged, waking up the world one person at a time !
U still here, aren't ya? :)30 May 2012 03:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
How in the ... are they talking about same thing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trihexyphenidyl
"It has been in clinical usage for decades"
"In a 2008 news report, trihexyphenidyl has been used recreationally among Iraqi soldiers and police, among other prescription drugs. The report states that the drugs were taken to relieve combat stress"
"The safe use of Trihexyphenidyl during pregnancy and lactation has not been established."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trihexyphenidyl
30 May 2012 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
hooly... this was something
"Artane is Baghdad's favourite drug. " - dangerous streets there i can imagine30 May 2012 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
But yeah, there is no use of actually commenting about its crap or bullshit or propaganda etc,
what we need to think of... how human can do it, and if its fake news - then who did it, and why30 May 2012 03:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
from brotherhood group stella shared these links, seems to be hellof a drugs that they sale out there..
Some pretty harsh drugs actually exist as medicine..
http://doublecheckmd.com/DrugDetail.do?dname=Artane&sid=236&view=e
http://doublecheckmd.com/EffectsDetail.do?dname=Artane&sid=236&eid=2705
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trihexyphenidyl
http://fdadrugs.legalview.com/legal-issue/artane/msnhttp://doublecheckmd.com/DrugDetail.do?dname=Artane&sid=236&view=e
30 May 2012 03:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
Thanks Stella this is pretty good info.
But actually, to eat someones, live person face off 80% while other one is fighting - this takes some serious power and strong jaws i can imagine.. is that even possible ?30 May 2012 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
nope, it seems nope30 May 2012 03:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
But seriously, have you wondered how hard is to eat of 80% of someones face? I mean, to rip someones flesh of from face this takes some serious power or no? And to do it on alive person, while other is fighting, ... not easy task to do. This why i was wondering might it all be fake but it seems people talk about it in many places.
Does anyone know any similar stories in near past ?30 May 2012 03:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
So sorry that this guy get killed, would want to give him an acid and hear what he has to say later on30 May 2012 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
Actually weed should cut down the swearing part once one has got some pretty good opening highs, She does not like rudeness. :)
30 May 2012 02:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PR_rzF8ofwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PR_rzF8ofw
30 May 2012 02:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
Well, ... as rick james told it once http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PR_rzF8ofwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PR_rzF8ofw
30 May 2012 02:20
Margus Meigo commented on Nick Hiteshew's post.
Group: Unplugged, waking up the world one person at a time !
Have been kind of mistaking with that rule today :)
Thanks nick!30 May 2012 01:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
PS: olge julged, ärge ka kõige hullemal uudisel laske ennast Teelt kõrvale viia
30 May 2012 01:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
PS: olge julged, ärge ka kõige hullemal uudisel laske ennast Teelt kõrvale viia
30 May 2012 01:56
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
Do you guys think, its any worth to start looking seeds senders around the world, who would want to send it for free?
30 May 2012 01:42
Margus Meigo commented on Tiffany Sanae Onestar Woodbury's post.
Group: MAX HEINDEL ROSICRUCIAN WISDOM
Sanae, (bdw, Sa Näe in estonian means: You See ;)
how many world leaders as of now have accepted and approved the venus project? What talks there have been with russia, china, india, usa etc governments and their involvement ? What are the plans to calm down military business and other businesses ? What are the plans for population control and mass media? How are fulfilled with most small businesses and corporation needs? What plans are for venus project about saving native cultures, old wisdom and what is their look to substance uses and working education plan ?
I hope much that basics are done, as i have not been looking in to it for long time can you lease give me some better overview about it, with some links. - As not document even it would be totally worth for a worth while information, to update it when time passes, just paste note link here, will give them an hand for sure once i get some better overview what really has been done
Please do not take it as hammering or picking on Venus, there might be a lots that can not be explained simply or proved, what is done, just paste these links, talks, proofs that show the real movement
almost forget, what are the plans for religions ?30 May 2012 01:41
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
.. would not be so bad if it would be publicly available with prices like that - still comes in the end to be worth it.
actually if one buys 10 gs at the time here, then there is huge special discount - it will cost "only" 100 to 120 euros :D
actually if one buys 10 gs at the time here, then there is huge special discount - it will cost "only" 100 to 120 euros :D
30 May 2012 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's post.
well, this therapy costs 20 to 35 dollars per g in estonia.. sad
30 May 2012 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on Tiffany Sanae Onestar Woodbury's photo.
well, what it is, who knows, but if it is bad or not - over here one is not sure as it entertains mind plenty to try to keep eye on the ball/direction that is good in my mind, no time to waste to think to much about other powers businesses and goals, unless one comes and shares it with me... like u know, interview with the Vampire stile :)
30 May 2012 00:06
Margus Meigo commented on Tiffany Sanae Onestar Woodbury's post.
Group: MAX HEINDEL ROSICRUCIAN WISDOM
(if this prayer is meant to be for general public to read, or represents some larger goal, if it needs to touch hearts)
in this case (out of many)
this prayer needs great video, with story explanations in slow mode between / with flowing lines of the prayer along the line, at least few different versions in the beginning to see yt responses, also one should analyze different region responses and it should be clear start of the video, that one should look it to the end, and in the end would be clear message that we are working for final version about this prayer, please help, share thoughts.
For sure one would need organize response team of some 50+ people would be good, to ask and analyze what one meant by this and this... all that should be done pretty fast, fast analyzing, production in the heat of the moment, let spirit take mind, professional video and audio and graphic and special effect people with spiritual/philosophical people on near for guidance, the elders should look it over with youth leaders for final and between touch, as prayer like that should consist full support and love from all the people involved with the mission
and then, there comes social and real life programs with the prayer, will get there when its needed..30 May 2012 00:00
Margus Meigo commented on Tiffany Sanae Onestar Woodbury's post.
Group: MAX HEINDEL ROSICRUCIAN WISDOM
Well, true it sounds, but just mood like that today.
Well, and about worries... will not want to even go there, from the flashing visions what country will be "handled" first by some strange rulers (hind from todays dreams - Germany, ..alright this is just a dream ) -
to the clear simple solutions, that are on my mind day and night, years for now, that take so little resources (compared to energy we spend on doing things mindlessly ..), to direct us in to the Way that will really show us human potential, in this soul mental health center called earth... but no, people are more interested about and only, about their personal life, job as ultimate goal not the Job that we are here for, - to find ways to unite us so, that at least between people there would be no real wars, (..not sure about other dimensions and how real they become in our life times, but when they do become then there will be Not asked, "How would you Like.. "
why shout anyone with half a intelligent to waste time to ask anything from people when we even have not managed to find one leader for the people who would speak for us, when it should become needed? What are we waiting for, seriously29 May 2012 23:50
Margus Meigo commented on Tiffany Sanae Onestar Woodbury's post.
Group: MAX HEINDEL ROSICRUCIAN WISDOM
well, what is the reason to share the words when there seem to be no one to hear me, to make it true?29 May 2012 23:22
Margus Meigo commented on Tiffany Sanae Onestar Woodbury's photo.
who is the devil ? :)
29 May 2012 23:18
Margus Meigo commented on Tiffany Sanae Onestar Woodbury's post.
Group: MAX HEINDEL ROSICRUCIAN WISDOM
Lines are great, now what we only need is a soul and action behind it to make it real,
some ideas flashing on my eyes.. but will shut them down.. as there is reasons to many, to few29 May 2012 23:16
Margus Meigo commented on Neşe Devenot's post.
Group: Theorizing Psychedelics
Sad day for a man kind, bad day for a people involved29 May 2012 10:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlZ0ulQ92uI
These hypnotic successions, this conspiracy, past
These hypnotic successions, this conspiracy, past
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlZ0ulQ92uI
29 May 2012 03:51
Margus Meigo commented on Les Green's post.
Group: Grandmothers Circle the Earth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN15Ohevar0 Inverters of the gamehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN15Ohevar0
29 May 2012 03:11
Margus Meigo commented on Jerry Brooks's post.
Group: Common Ground World Community
Have not heard the video, but thumbnail looks real :))29 May 2012 02:14
Margus Meigo commented on Les Green's post.
Group: Grandmothers Circle the Earth
is these http://www.answers.com/topic/illuminati
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/illuminati
way not connected with main source? For powerful ppl there should be mostly pretty wrong and misleading information around the dictionaries and web, media, even the tupack movie.., or no?http://www.answers.com/topic/illuminati
29 May 2012 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on Les Green's post.
Group: Grandmothers Circle the Earth
it can be send to my fb mailbox, thanks Les :)29 May 2012 00:13
Margus Meigo commented on Les Green's post.
Group: Grandmothers Circle the Earth
how would shortest description, with best couple of references, look alike, about the illuminati?29 May 2012 00:05
Margus Meigo commented on Les Green's post.
Group: Grandmothers Circle the Earth
what if one does not want to change the mind, but keep it ?28 May 2012 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on Les Green's post.
Group: Grandmothers Circle the Earth
Can we get some short defination of illuminate?
If these Sirius people are serious maybe many of us should go deep hidding or leave their profession28 May 2012 23:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
remeber the reganised quote about "one can fool some of the people some of the time, ... but not all the people all the time " jada jada jada,
can it be looked also as something like "one can know most of the things some of the time, but not all the things all the time ... but one can know some of the things, most of the time.."
if it so, as one feels ower here.. we can do some pretty amazing things, jes? :)
can it be looked also as something like "one can know most of the things some of the time, but not all the things all the time ... but one can know some of the things, most of the time.."
if it so, as one feels ower here.. we can do some pretty amazing things, jes? :)
28 May 2012 22:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
are you guys online ? :)
28 May 2012 22:35
Margus Meigo commented on Chris Cox's note.
One is missing:
51, Do you have a soul?
51, Do you have a soul?
28 May 2012 22:26
Margus Meigo commented on Margus Lepa's photo.
Mõelda vaid kui inimesed sellest yle saaksid, et neil on olemas privaatseid mõtteid.. :)
28 May 2012 21:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Thanks Kiva, found it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7vSIetlXGg ! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7vSIetlXGg
28 May 2012 21:06
Margus Meigo commented on Dimitar Grudev's post.
What about http://phdays.ru/ ? :)
http://phdays.ru/
27 May 2012 18:12
Margus Meigo commented on Tobias Anand Schneider's photo.
Thanks bro :)
27 May 2012 18:07
Margus Meigo commented on Kaz Simona's photo.
will like for now, not that i like the programs ya know, but i bet youl make mighty great program out of it! Bring some europ wibe and show mainland peeps that heer is more then ˇeurotipsˇ to look forward to! :)
Il assing u as Europe offician unofficial ambassidor, ya shal go and rock the mainland for all of US!
Il assing u as Europe offician unofficial ambassidor, ya shal go and rock the mainland for all of US!
27 May 2012 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on Tobias Anand Schneider's photo.
http://www.2012.ee/?wa_site_id=1
http://www.kristuspaev.ee/en/about-christ-day/an-exiting-vision - just sayng .. :)
http://www.kristuspaev.ee/en/about-christ-day/an-exiting-vision - just sayng .. :)
http://www.2012.ee/?wa_site_id=1
27 May 2012 17:09
Margus Meigo commented on Kaz Simona's photo.
all around? Its a mighty big country you know, for a now
27 May 2012 17:05
Margus Meigo commented on Kaz Simona's photo.
Greets darling, wicked pic :)
27 May 2012 17:04
Margus Meigo commented on Kaz Simona's photo.
in a good way :)
27 May 2012 17:03
Margus Meigo commented on Kaz Simona's photo.
to US? What part in it you go, work or pleasure or pleasure work?
Well, doing strange weird here, as always :p
Well, doing strange weird here, as always :p
27 May 2012 17:02
Margus Meigo commented on Carlos Jorge Ferreira's photo.
bdw, 3-day anarchistic meeting is going on in Estonia right now :))
27 May 2012 16:56
Margus Meigo commented on Kaz Simona's photo.
Hey Cool ppl :)
How is going?
How is going?
27 May 2012 16:54
Margus Meigo commented on Tobias Anand Schneider's photo.
Will see ya guys again in fallowing years? :)
27 May 2012 16:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63485075/Mart-Metsala-Suhete-Alused
http://et.scribd.com/doc/63485075/Mart-Metsala-Suhete-Alused
26 May 2012 22:26
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Group: Minu muutmine
Kas saad selle filmi lingi saata, vist ei saa kohale minna, kuna võin olla kas siis anarhistide või kristlastega ühel pool26 May 2012 22:21
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Killo's post.
:D:D What a great amuzement :D
26 May 2012 19:07
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Killo's post.
https://www.facebook.com/balticanarchistmeeting
facebook.com
BAM 2012 - Baltic Anarchist Meeting Tallinn 2012
26 May 2012 19:04
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Killo's post.
Kas sa anarhistide meetingul ei olegi? :)
26 May 2012 19:03
Margus Meigo commented on Jeroen Droog's link.
There comes a time, when we all take hands with bank ppl and from unions... and will sing alleluujah in joy, after that we will share glorious joint :)
26 May 2012 18:53
Margus Meigo commented on face book.com's album.
FaceBoo - not a best cut-off i must say :P
26 May 2012 18:49
Margus Meigo commented on Ajupesubuss's link.
Seega peaksime rohkem uurima, meedia monitooringu kaudu ( mis ammu plaanis olnud,) mis sorti meediat mis korporatsioonid promovad, mis kõnekasutust ja mis censoreid. Ning siis alles hakkame tomatitega pilduma ning aktiivselt soovitusi andma asjalikele meedia mgnaatidele mis kanaleid osta ja eemaldada oma slavest, mis kanalid toimivad kui vähk inimkonna arengule.
(roters näiteks keeldus kasutamast terroriseri kõnepruuki sest nende arvates yhe inimese terroriser on teise inimese freedom fighter, respect! )
imho, arust oleks ka ideaalne kui oleks Üks suur globaalne meedia võrgustik mis vajaliku välja filtreeriks, analyysics ja lisaks vajalikud vastas arvamused weebi meediana uudiste külge (weeb ja tele yhineb nagunii tulevikus), omades ise ka vastas arvamusi poleks paha... Khmm.. muidugi eks seda muidugi osaliselt ka nii proovitakse praegu, kuid suht kaootiline monstrum tundub eemalt välja tulevat, sest avaliku teavitus kampaaniat telekast ei tehta oma teadvuse/aju/laste/hine.. ja kes teab veel mille päästmiseks, leidmiseks.
Kui keegi soovib tulevikus Eesti meedia monitoringuga tegeleda, siis totally like this post, ja ma panen listi mis võib asjaolude õnnestumisel täitsa tööle hakata, some day, me Võidame nagunii! :D
(roters näiteks keeldus kasutamast terroriseri kõnepruuki sest nende arvates yhe inimese terroriser on teise inimese freedom fighter, respect! )
imho, arust oleks ka ideaalne kui oleks Üks suur globaalne meedia võrgustik mis vajaliku välja filtreeriks, analyysics ja lisaks vajalikud vastas arvamused weebi meediana uudiste külge (weeb ja tele yhineb nagunii tulevikus), omades ise ka vastas arvamusi poleks paha... Khmm.. muidugi eks seda muidugi osaliselt ka nii proovitakse praegu, kuid suht kaootiline monstrum tundub eemalt välja tulevat, sest avaliku teavitus kampaaniat telekast ei tehta oma teadvuse/aju/laste/hine.. ja kes teab veel mille päästmiseks, leidmiseks.
Kui keegi soovib tulevikus Eesti meedia monitoringuga tegeleda, siis totally like this post, ja ma panen listi mis võib asjaolude õnnestumisel täitsa tööle hakata, some day, me Võidame nagunii! :D
26 May 2012 17:28
Margus Meigo commented on Ajupesubuss's link.
Seda peaks korra uurima, kust enamus eesti välis uudiste sourced tulevad, alates ERRi omadest. Sest viimaste uudiseid tuleb pea iga raadio kanalist ja nende uudiste interpretatsioone muudest kanalitest.
Kuni 2004 Radio Free Europe/US tuli siiani (US gov) - kuid ma pole uurinud kui palju nende masin mõjutas meie uudiseid, äkki sa tead? Praegu kõrvus kostavad Routers ( nüüd Thomson Reuters - TRI) ja ITAR-TASS (vene) mida ERR vast vahendab
Seega meie uudised 95% vast õnneks ei tule Time Warner, VIACOM, Vivendi Universal, Walt Disney, News Corp ilt jms. Ja ma kahtlen, et viimased päriselt Vaadatavast meediast 95 omavad. Ei tasu unustada, et ka looduse, teaduse, multika ja muusika kanalid on seal sees mida päris suur hulk inimesi vaatab.
Mida sooviks näha oleks see, et Aljazeera / JSC (araabia free press) uudiseid rohkem vahendatakse. Viimased osades küsimustes väga oluliselt avatumalt ja informatiivsemalt kajastavad sündmusi. Mõni slaavi vabameedia kanal võiks ka veel paar korda nädalas läbi käia, kui juba wish listile läksime.
Kuid iseenesest,
Selle repordi alusel, on eesti meedia pea nii vaba kui olla saab:
http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2011-2012,1043.html
ja kui lisada siia juurde ETV/ETV2 saadete valikud mis ei pane põhi rõhku meie teadvuse uinutamisele (äärmisel juhul hoiavad konservatiivselt heatahtliku keskmiselt sinise pildi hoidmisti) siis me eestlased siin suht õnne sees. Vaadates meie Crappomeetri % mis kaablist tuleb vs mõne muu suurema maaga.
Tsehhi meedia vist oli 80% ulatuses saksa ja sveitsi oma - mitte, et see ilmtingimatta halb peaks olema
Uudiste ja meedia agentuuridest:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_of_media_ownership#European_institutions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_transparency#See_also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_conglomerate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_imperialism
Kuni 2004 Radio Free Europe/US tuli siiani (US gov) - kuid ma pole uurinud kui palju nende masin mõjutas meie uudiseid, äkki sa tead? Praegu kõrvus kostavad Routers ( nüüd Thomson Reuters - TRI) ja ITAR-TASS (vene) mida ERR vast vahendab
Seega meie uudised 95% vast õnneks ei tule Time Warner, VIACOM, Vivendi Universal, Walt Disney, News Corp ilt jms. Ja ma kahtlen, et viimased päriselt Vaadatavast meediast 95 omavad. Ei tasu unustada, et ka looduse, teaduse, multika ja muusika kanalid on seal sees mida päris suur hulk inimesi vaatab.
Mida sooviks näha oleks see, et Aljazeera / JSC (araabia free press) uudiseid rohkem vahendatakse. Viimased osades küsimustes väga oluliselt avatumalt ja informatiivsemalt kajastavad sündmusi. Mõni slaavi vabameedia kanal võiks ka veel paar korda nädalas läbi käia, kui juba wish listile läksime.
Kuid iseenesest,
Selle repordi alusel, on eesti meedia pea nii vaba kui olla saab:
http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2011-2012,1043.html
ja kui lisada siia juurde ETV/ETV2 saadete valikud mis ei pane põhi rõhku meie teadvuse uinutamisele (äärmisel juhul hoiavad konservatiivselt heatahtliku keskmiselt sinise pildi hoidmisti) siis me eestlased siin suht õnne sees. Vaadates meie Crappomeetri % mis kaablist tuleb vs mõne muu suurema maaga.
Tsehhi meedia vist oli 80% ulatuses saksa ja sveitsi oma - mitte, et see ilmtingimatta halb peaks olema
Uudiste ja meedia agentuuridest:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_of_media_ownership#European_institutions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_transparency#See_also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_conglomerate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_imperialism
http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2011-2012,1043.html
26 May 2012 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on Ajupesubuss's link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY50vvMjX_o Other short 2 minute educative clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY50vvMjX_o
26 May 2012 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on Ajupesubuss's link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7YIBW0xItQ :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7YIBW0xItQ
26 May 2012 15:48
Margus Meigo commented on Ajupesubuss's link.
What about summerhill school?
http://www.summerhillschool.co.uk/pages/index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summerhill_School#Philosophy
I will take a word on Ken later.. but for starters he is a bit Hype at another look, the message is true in many ways, simple, true and logical.. but whats up with all these people - talking about problems and not actively working on the solutions, sharing solutions, sharing resources for solutions, inventing programs... Sharing the Tools
But besides that, perhaps he is pretty good start up with this kind of message
Will look up my notes & mentalnotes on Ken and will be back with more useful comments when my mind takes me back here. Otherwise its just rambling... - and is that better then nothing at all ? Who knows.. who knows..
(and now when i write it one wonders - what one has done for all that.. with so many years in life.. - i can answer, building a background and sleeping : )
http://www.summerhillschool.co.uk/pages/index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summerhill_School#Philosophy
I will take a word on Ken later.. but for starters he is a bit Hype at another look, the message is true in many ways, simple, true and logical.. but whats up with all these people - talking about problems and not actively working on the solutions, sharing solutions, sharing resources for solutions, inventing programs... Sharing the Tools
But besides that, perhaps he is pretty good start up with this kind of message
Will look up my notes & mentalnotes on Ken and will be back with more useful comments when my mind takes me back here. Otherwise its just rambling... - and is that better then nothing at all ? Who knows.. who knows..
(and now when i write it one wonders - what one has done for all that.. with so many years in life.. - i can answer, building a background and sleeping : )
http://www.summerhillschool.co.uk/pages/index.html
26 May 2012 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on Silver Et Coagula's photo.
What a pleasant picture to light up a day!
25 May 2012 16:39
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
We can change that
(:
(:
24 May 2012 13:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
Aww, äitah Kallis Maiken :)
24 May 2012 00:53
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's post.
apple on kurjast :p
22 May 2012 17:33
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
Marko pildid võivad puudu olla sealt vist kyll.. oot ma pean uurima seda asja, õhta poole natuke, veelrohkem :)
21 May 2012 21:29
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's post.
kas sinna dropboxi ei saanud nad kõik ylesse laetud, link peaks sul postkastis olema. Mul muidu veel arvutis ka olemas isenesest
21 May 2012 18:51
Margus Meigo commented on Anders Hauge's link.
lol... this is just to smoke screen the fact that we in large part pretty much function as robots already, for long time. So we can feel more "human" then the fictionos robot made by russian scientist.
There is more then brain that makes people, people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-W483ygaqM
There is more then brain that makes people, people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-W483ygaqM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-W483ygaqM
20 May 2012 00:53
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's post.
Lahendus väga lihtne - järgmine kord hakka koos Kelliga laulma rõõmsalt, kui hästi läheb siis tulevad veel teised ka kaasa või siis läheb toriseja kiiremini maha, julgust & armastust! :)
20 May 2012 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWgqD9ApA4Y
http://www.loudandquiet.com/2010/07/neu-michael-rother-interview/
"... “After the disaster of Nazi Germany, the disaster of War and all that shame on German culture, everything was destroyed” says Rother, “and, after about 15 years of restoration with a conservative government still trying to cling to authoritarian structures, this virus of change arrived. I was a student at the time and I remember having that feeling of ‘I don’t belong here, the professor up-front, he wants to be a God’. There was a strong desire to change society, for instance I refused the call to military service. It was a tough time, it wasn’t just filling in a postcard, there was a real court ruling.”
Having managed to dodge the draft, he found work at a mental hospital, something that would lead to a stint in Kraftwerk.
“There was another conscientious objector working there and he was also a guitar player,” remembers Rother, “I don’t even remember his name, I think it was Georg but I’m not sure, and erm, we were on a demonstration in Dusseldorf. He had this invitation to join a band in the studio to do some film music and he asked me to join him. I didn’t know Kraftwerk at the time, I thought it was a stupid name, Hahaha! but I decided to go along and that’s where I first met Ralf Hütter.
...
http://www.loudandquiet.com/2010/07/neu-michael-rother-interview/
http://www.loudandquiet.com/2010/07/neu-michael-rother-interview/
"... “After the disaster of Nazi Germany, the disaster of War and all that shame on German culture, everything was destroyed” says Rother, “and, after about 15 years of restoration with a conservative government still trying to cling to authoritarian structures, this virus of change arrived. I was a student at the time and I remember having that feeling of ‘I don’t belong here, the professor up-front, he wants to be a God’. There was a strong desire to change society, for instance I refused the call to military service. It was a tough time, it wasn’t just filling in a postcard, there was a real court ruling.”
Having managed to dodge the draft, he found work at a mental hospital, something that would lead to a stint in Kraftwerk.
“There was another conscientious objector working there and he was also a guitar player,” remembers Rother, “I don’t even remember his name, I think it was Georg but I’m not sure, and erm, we were on a demonstration in Dusseldorf. He had this invitation to join a band in the studio to do some film music and he asked me to join him. I didn’t know Kraftwerk at the time, I thought it was a stupid name, Hahaha! but I decided to go along and that’s where I first met Ralf Hütter.
...
http://www.loudandquiet.com/2010/07/neu-michael-rother-interview/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWgqD9ApA4Y
19 May 2012 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ry64e6SVQGs#!
http://thequietus.com/articles/03472-from-neu-to-kraftwerk-football-motorik-and-the-pulse-of-modernity:
"... The motorik sound represented a metaphorical journey speeding away from the recent past – a high velocity transit away from the recent horrors of Nazism and World War II. The autobahn was inextricably linked with the dominance of the Nazis in the 1930s and early 1940s. The new roads provided links between all of the major cities in a manner that only previously been dreamed of. Hitler promised that he would eradicate unemployment and through the building plan he nearly achieved this goal. The middle classes had better transport links and the mercantile classes had an abundance of new markets that they were able to reach. And for Hitler himself he had achieved what he had always wanted: "Totale Mobilmachung" or total mobilisation for the troops of the Third Reich. By 1939 he was responsible for 3,000 km of new road. As soon as the war was over he planned that the people would be able to drive wherever they wanted in the Volkswagens he had promised to every family. It took a band as forward-looking as Kraftwerk to rescue the liberating nature of the autobahn back from the fascists. As soon as you hear the child like refrain "Wir fahr'n, fahr'n, fahr'n auf der autobahn" ("We are driving, driving, driving on the autobahn.") you realise that Kraftwerk have won an important victory. The song is as much a riposte to the previous generation as it is a nod of respect to The Beach Boys and American road music. (It may or may not be coincidence that the rhythm to this refrain is that of 'Barbara Ann'.)
"The group took to physically driving up and down motorways recording noises as they went and then trying to recreate them on synthesizers and locking the grooves in place with their first ever sequencer. The eventual 22 minute long, eponymous track was the first definitive statement that Kraftwerk had made and (in a mainstream sense at least) it marked the birth of synth pop and techno as we know them today. It was a staging point because it combined the new electronic rhythm of the motorway as well as, in the closing minutes, the motorik beat.
...
http://thequietus.com/articles/03472-from-neu-to-kraftwerk-football-motorik-and-the-pulse-of-modernity
http://thequietus.com/articles/03472-from-neu-to-kraftwerk-football-motorik-and-the-pulse-of-modernity:
"... The motorik sound represented a metaphorical journey speeding away from the recent past – a high velocity transit away from the recent horrors of Nazism and World War II. The autobahn was inextricably linked with the dominance of the Nazis in the 1930s and early 1940s. The new roads provided links between all of the major cities in a manner that only previously been dreamed of. Hitler promised that he would eradicate unemployment and through the building plan he nearly achieved this goal. The middle classes had better transport links and the mercantile classes had an abundance of new markets that they were able to reach. And for Hitler himself he had achieved what he had always wanted: "Totale Mobilmachung" or total mobilisation for the troops of the Third Reich. By 1939 he was responsible for 3,000 km of new road. As soon as the war was over he planned that the people would be able to drive wherever they wanted in the Volkswagens he had promised to every family. It took a band as forward-looking as Kraftwerk to rescue the liberating nature of the autobahn back from the fascists. As soon as you hear the child like refrain "Wir fahr'n, fahr'n, fahr'n auf der autobahn" ("We are driving, driving, driving on the autobahn.") you realise that Kraftwerk have won an important victory. The song is as much a riposte to the previous generation as it is a nod of respect to The Beach Boys and American road music. (It may or may not be coincidence that the rhythm to this refrain is that of 'Barbara Ann'.)
"The group took to physically driving up and down motorways recording noises as they went and then trying to recreate them on synthesizers and locking the grooves in place with their first ever sequencer. The eventual 22 minute long, eponymous track was the first definitive statement that Kraftwerk had made and (in a mainstream sense at least) it marked the birth of synth pop and techno as we know them today. It was a staging point because it combined the new electronic rhythm of the motorway as well as, in the closing minutes, the motorik beat.
...
http://thequietus.com/articles/03472-from-neu-to-kraftwerk-football-motorik-and-the-pulse-of-modernity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry64e6SVQGs
19 May 2012 21:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6IFgcx76RIg
MOJO magazine - Ralf Hütter - August 2005
http://www.technopop-archive.com/interview_115.php
MOJO: What is the worst misunderstanding about Kraftwerk?
Ralf Hütter: The enormous prejudice of the outside music world in the ‘70s about our coldness or lack of emotion. We were machine-like to a certain extent, man-machine-like, but these prejudices about the supposed emotional frigidity of electronic music when actually it is the most sensitive form of music there is. The sensitivity goes across the full hearing range from 20 to 20,000 hertz.
"MOJO: You talk a lot about “energy”. Isn’t that just a little new agey for Kraftwerk?
Ralf Hütter: No, it is inside the word ‘Kraftwerk’ – power, energy. Power in the English language, as I understand it means very strong, overpowering. Energy to me is more like a presence. All forms of energy, mental, intellectual and so on channel into our activities.
MOJO: A casual fan might not guess that you liked The Ramones. What is the scope of your musical taste?
Ralf Hütter: From silence to everywhere. .../.../
MOJO magazine - Ralf Hütter - August 2005
http://www.technopop-archive.com/interview_115.php
MOJO: What is the worst misunderstanding about Kraftwerk?
Ralf Hütter: The enormous prejudice of the outside music world in the ‘70s about our coldness or lack of emotion. We were machine-like to a certain extent, man-machine-like, but these prejudices about the supposed emotional frigidity of electronic music when actually it is the most sensitive form of music there is. The sensitivity goes across the full hearing range from 20 to 20,000 hertz.
"MOJO: You talk a lot about “energy”. Isn’t that just a little new agey for Kraftwerk?
Ralf Hütter: No, it is inside the word ‘Kraftwerk’ – power, energy. Power in the English language, as I understand it means very strong, overpowering. Energy to me is more like a presence. All forms of energy, mental, intellectual and so on channel into our activities.
MOJO: A casual fan might not guess that you liked The Ramones. What is the scope of your musical taste?
Ralf Hütter: From silence to everywhere. .../.../
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6IFgcx76RIg
19 May 2012 20:46
Margus Meigo commented on Jerry Brooks's link.
and also hemp, great find :)
19 May 2012 15:31
Margus Meigo commented on Gwen Jones's link.
Us as USA ? :)
19 May 2012 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on Gwen Jones's post.
Needed it today, thanks :))
19 May 2012 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
Hmm.. did i really sent you link in youtube ? :)
.. these internet things are weird u know..18 May 2012 03:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
One other link you can find something good to read: http://www.scribd.com/jlcovinghttp://www.scribd.com/jlcoving
18 May 2012 02:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
Other interesting link to take look http://www.scribd.com/jlcovinghttp://www.scribd.com/jlcoving
18 May 2012 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on NJ Gregory's post.
Group: Erowid
http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/ this should be one of the best ibogaine mailing lists, take look :)http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/
18 May 2012 02:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
But yeah, now lets collect our brightest heads and lets try to explain to UN how come we as people, are ready for next sift in our evolution.
But... are we, all most all? :)18 May 2012 02:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
http://energycommerce.house.gov/News/PRArticle.aspx?NewsID=9526 (link from the doc)
http://republicans.energycommerce.house.gov/Media/file/PDFs/20120516ObamacareDeals.pdf (link from the memo, bdw if you open the pdf it will connect to whitehouce.gov unless you have safe reading mode turned on, but i guess its no biggie unless we making list of people who are really really interested about news like that.. lols and you like to get paranoid about it while smoking )
Press Release
Committee Investigation Outlines White House’s Role in Backroom Health Care Negotiations
Internal Emails Reveal Top Administration Officials Were Behind Deal with Pharmaceutical Industry
May 16, 2012
WASHINGTON, DC – The House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, chaired by Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-FL), today released new information that confirms the White House played a pivotal role in cutting a “deal” with the Pharmaceutical Manufacturers of America (PhRMA), the details of which have never been fully disclosed to the public. The latest revelations come as part of an ongoing investigation launched more than a year ago to allow Congress and the American public to understand the process that was used to write legislation that fundamentally transformed the nation's health care system.
In 2008, then-candidate Barack Obama repeatedly made promises to usher in an era of transparency, “put an end to the game playing,” and broadcast health care negotiations on C-SPAN. However, in 2009, a series of conflicting media accounts documented efforts by the authors of the health care law to make an agreement or series of agreements with health care industry stakeholders to squelch opposition and generate support for the legislation. These meetings and negotiations with various outside interest groups were never made public, and many members of Congress – from both parties – were not a part of those negotiations. Since those reports lacked consistency and concrete details, the committee launched an investigation on February 18, 2011, to determine whether “deals” were made, who made them, and what specifically was negotiated.
Today, a staff memo distributed to Republican members of the committee provided further information regarding the development of the “deal,” and the parties involved in negotiating specific policy outcomes to secure support for the legislation. Based on email exchanges and other primary source material, it appears the deal was reached not solely between PhRMA and the U.S. Senate Finance Committee, but that top personnel in the White House were involved in negotiating and approving this deal. The committee’s investigation determined that the White House, specifically Office of Health Reform Director Nancy Ann DeParle, Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina, and Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel, actively engaged in these negotiations while the role of Congress was limited. Their involvement in these previously undisclosed negotiations is particularly noteworthy since it contradicts the president’s promises of transparency.
While news reports speculated on the details of the “deal,” the White House has been vague and contradictory about the specifics beyond the $80 billion threshold. In the coming weeks, the committee will show what the White House agreed to do as part of its deal with the pharmaceutical industry, and how the full details of this agreement were kept from both the public and the House of Representatives.
And as the memo highlights, the important question to be answered is what the White House got in return.http://energycommerce.house.gov/News/PRArticle.aspx?NewsID=9526
18 May 2012 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
Happy bd to me :D18 May 2012 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
http://energycommerce.house.gov/News/PRArticle.aspx?NewsID=9526
http://republicans.energycommerce.house.gov/Media/file/PDFs/20120516ObamacareDeals.pdf (bdw if you open the pdf it will connect to whitehouce.gov unless you have safe reading mode turned on, but i guess its no biggie unless we making list of people who are really really interested about news like that.. lols and you like to get paranoid about it while smoking )
Press Release
Committee Investigation Outlines White House’s Role in Backroom Health Care Negotiations
Internal Emails Reveal Top Administration Officials Were Behind Deal with Pharmaceutical Industry
May 16, 2012
WASHINGTON, DC – The House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, chaired by Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-FL), today released new information that confirms the White House played a pivotal role in cutting a “deal” with the Pharmaceutical Manufacturers of America (PhRMA), the details of which have never been fully disclosed to the public. The latest revelations come as part of an ongoing investigation launched more than a year ago to allow Congress and the American public to understand the process that was used to write legislation that fundamentally transformed the nation's health care system.
In 2008, then-candidate Barack Obama repeatedly made promises to usher in an era of transparency, “put an end to the game playing,” and broadcast health care negotiations on C-SPAN. However, in 2009, a series of conflicting media accounts documented efforts by the authors of the health care law to make an agreement or series of agreements with health care industry stakeholders to squelch opposition and generate support for the legislation. These meetings and negotiations with various outside interest groups were never made public, and many members of Congress – from both parties – were not a part of those negotiations. Since those reports lacked consistency and concrete details, the committee launched an investigation on February 18, 2011, to determine whether “deals” were made, who made them, and what specifically was negotiated.
Today, a staff memo distributed to Republican members of the committee provided further information regarding the development of the “deal,” and the parties involved in negotiating specific policy outcomes to secure support for the legislation. Based on email exchanges and other primary source material, it appears the deal was reached not solely between PhRMA and the U.S. Senate Finance Committee, but that top personnel in the White House were involved in negotiating and approving this deal. The committee’s investigation determined that the White House, specifically Office of Health Reform Director Nancy Ann DeParle, Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina, and Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel, actively engaged in these negotiations while the role of Congress was limited. Their involvement in these previously undisclosed negotiations is particularly noteworthy since it contradicts the president’s promises of transparency.
While news reports speculated on the details of the “deal,” the White House has been vague and contradictory about the specifics beyond the $80 billion threshold. In the coming weeks, the committee will show what the White House agreed to do as part of its deal with the pharmaceutical industry, and how the full details of this agreement were kept from both the public and the House of Representatives.
And as the memo highlights, the important question to be answered is what the White House got in return.http://energycommerce.house.gov/News/PRArticle.aspx?NewsID=9526
18 May 2012 02:01
Margus Meigo commented on Crystal Ra Laksmi-Ditton's post.
Group: Avardu Mine
Kas sipelgas on Üks?17 May 2012 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
But biggest gift one can give for now is that we took time to look wall posts here, month by month... look in to lyrics or what is behind the story and try to imagine all of them in plan that accounts it all
16 May 2012 00:21
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Riimak's photo.
u made my day with that
15 May 2012 23:17
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Riimak's photo.
:D:D
15 May 2012 23:16
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Riimak's photo.
Mis see tõlge oleks ? :)
15 May 2012 23:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"The mammalian body has evolved over millions of years. Survival skills of human and animal at times seem almost supernatural. Science is constantly coming up with more discoveries about the amazing abilities of man and animal to survive. Each part of the body has highly sensitive work to perform for the survival and well being of the body as a whole.The body has a reason for every part of itself.
Hair is an extension of the nervous system, it can be correctly seen as exteriorized nerves, a type of highly evolved 'feelers' or 'antennae' that transmit vast amounts of important information to the brain stem, the limbic system, and the neocortex.
Not only does hair in people, including facial hair in men, provide an information highway reaching the brain, hair also emits energy, the electromagnetic energy emitted by the brain into the outer environment. This has been seen in Kirlian photography when a person is photographed with long hair and then rephotographed after the hair is cut.
When hair is cut, receiving and sending transmissions to and from the environment are greatly hampered. This results in numbing-out .
Cutting of hair is a contributing factor to unawareness of environmental distress in local ecosystems. It is also a contributing factor to insensitivity in relationships of all kinds. It contributes to sexual frustration."
Hair is an extension of the nervous system, it can be correctly seen as exteriorized nerves, a type of highly evolved 'feelers' or 'antennae' that transmit vast amounts of important information to the brain stem, the limbic system, and the neocortex.
Not only does hair in people, including facial hair in men, provide an information highway reaching the brain, hair also emits energy, the electromagnetic energy emitted by the brain into the outer environment. This has been seen in Kirlian photography when a person is photographed with long hair and then rephotographed after the hair is cut.
When hair is cut, receiving and sending transmissions to and from the environment are greatly hampered. This results in numbing-out .
Cutting of hair is a contributing factor to unawareness of environmental distress in local ecosystems. It is also a contributing factor to insensitivity in relationships of all kinds. It contributes to sexual frustration."
15 May 2012 22:57
Margus Meigo commented on Margus Kiis's post.
ja muide - kõike vahvat Sulle ka Margus )
15 May 2012 22:50
Margus Meigo commented on Margus Kiis's post.
:D
Tänud, on küll vahva :p
Tänud, on küll vahva :p
15 May 2012 22:41
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Mikkin's post.
Sa täitsa essa!, tänud :))
15 May 2012 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Eesti Loomade Kaitse Grupp
praegu on jälle vaikus kuid... hmm,
päris normaalne ikka vist ei ole, vb mingi valvur koer nutab vangistuses=?15 May 2012 01:04
Margus Meigo commented on Prashant Patel's photo.
Still steps away from air touch multilevel screens
14 May 2012 22:05
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's link.
Kuid mine tea, mis häid projecte nende ainte ja meie tarbimisharjumustega seoses me liigi säilitamise osas tehakse.. :)
14 May 2012 21:36
Margus Meigo commented on Prashant Patel's photo.
actually was visualizing new kind of keyboard/mouce system yesterday.. current setup is kind of irritating for greativity, as
Manowar member told - computer is something that comes between you and creativty..
...up to now
Manowar member told - computer is something that comes between you and creativty..
...up to now
14 May 2012 17:35
Margus Meigo commented on Prashant Patel's photo.
but you can fallow thought :p
14 May 2012 17:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
... jumal tänatud, et meil on facebookidest ipodide appideni mis enamus meeled tegevuses hoiab suurel osal neist kes muidu looduses rüüstamisega tegeleksid, (paljud mitte tahtlikult..)
sain just ühe kasuliku punkti juurde küsimuses "mis on tehnoloogia sõltuvuses head"
Ei tea kas see kolfiväljak mille jaoks oli vaja kaitse alal kuivendusi teha sai linna toetusel juba valmis... optimistlik ettevõtmine, paneb kohe osati naeratuse suule nähes kui optimistlikult osad inimesed olukorra tulevikku suhtuvad.. :)
sain just ühe kasuliku punkti juurde küsimuses "mis on tehnoloogia sõltuvuses head"
Ei tea kas see kolfiväljak mille jaoks oli vaja kaitse alal kuivendusi teha sai linna toetusel juba valmis... optimistlik ettevõtmine, paneb kohe osati naeratuse suule nähes kui optimistlikult osad inimesed olukorra tulevikku suhtuvad.. :)
14 May 2012 14:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Huvitav mis eesmärgil need kes oma keskonna hävitamisega tegelevad üldse järglasi saavad, mõtlesin et oleks huvitav küsida mõne käest, kuid siis meenus - et ka ise lapsena sai oldud loodus terrorist aegajalt - kuna we did not know any better.
Muidugi me tegime seda ka sest, et oli põnev, oli keelatud ja meil ei olnud kedagi kes valgustaks meid õige külje pealt - mida me teeme oma kolme-nelja klassi teadmistega...
Suht hirmutav, siin ühiskonnas inimene kõib mitu aastat, süstemaatiliselt ennast ümber programeerimas, õppimas, treenimas, arendamas (- või mis iganes pidi keegi seda kutsub) ning selle aja jooksul ei saada selgeks eluks kõige olulisemaid lihtsaid põhitõdesi.
Ja siis jätkub vähest häbi tunnet praegustel õpetajatel nuriseda palkade üle ??? Mida nad õpetavad, nemad kes peaksid olema targemad kui need kes last kodus kasvatavad, mida nad õpetavad kui esimese kolme-nelja aastaga KÕIK kes pole kurjast/kaldega, pole aru saanud olulistemast põhitõdedest elus?
Vähe sellest, on veel selliseid isendeid olemas, kes 9, 12 ja isegi ülikooli jõudnud ja endiselt ei oma Looduse suhtes sügavamaid mõtteid kasutades viimast prügimäeni. Sellised magavad isendid ... kas võib olla, et ei aita kaasa meie liigi/teadvuse/võimaluse/(uuesti)sünnile vaid pigem liiguvad vastu voolu - kui nad just nii suure hooga ei liigu, et äratavad suure hulga Maalasi ülesse, loota jääb, et viimased saades aru olukorra tõsidusest väga radikaalseid meetmeid kasutusele ei võta, sest see konflikt juba võib hoopis suuremad suunad võtta kui praegu filosofeerida julgeksime
- ja muide, seda võimalus, üks wise old guy, ütles mulle, et oodataksegi, sest Igavaks on läinud siin maal sellistega..., ütles Ta
Muidugi me tegime seda ka sest, et oli põnev, oli keelatud ja meil ei olnud kedagi kes valgustaks meid õige külje pealt - mida me teeme oma kolme-nelja klassi teadmistega...
Suht hirmutav, siin ühiskonnas inimene kõib mitu aastat, süstemaatiliselt ennast ümber programeerimas, õppimas, treenimas, arendamas (- või mis iganes pidi keegi seda kutsub) ning selle aja jooksul ei saada selgeks eluks kõige olulisemaid lihtsaid põhitõdesi.
Ja siis jätkub vähest häbi tunnet praegustel õpetajatel nuriseda palkade üle ??? Mida nad õpetavad, nemad kes peaksid olema targemad kui need kes last kodus kasvatavad, mida nad õpetavad kui esimese kolme-nelja aastaga KÕIK kes pole kurjast/kaldega, pole aru saanud olulistemast põhitõdedest elus?
Vähe sellest, on veel selliseid isendeid olemas, kes 9, 12 ja isegi ülikooli jõudnud ja endiselt ei oma Looduse suhtes sügavamaid mõtteid kasutades viimast prügimäeni. Sellised magavad isendid ... kas võib olla, et ei aita kaasa meie liigi/teadvuse/võimaluse/(uuesti)sünnile vaid pigem liiguvad vastu voolu - kui nad just nii suure hooga ei liigu, et äratavad suure hulga Maalasi ülesse, loota jääb, et viimased saades aru olukorra tõsidusest väga radikaalseid meetmeid kasutusele ei võta, sest see konflikt juba võib hoopis suuremad suunad võtta kui praegu filosofeerida julgeksime
- ja muide, seda võimalus, üks wise old guy, ütles mulle, et oodataksegi, sest Igavaks on läinud siin maal sellistega..., ütles Ta
14 May 2012 13:57
Margus Meigo commented on Raadio Elmar's post.
... siin jääb ainult naeratades armastusele loota, sest Loodus mis meile kingitud - ei näe me hoolivat sellest..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhmacCxqo4g
See, kellele on palju antud, kannab seda südame kohal.
See, kellele on palju antud, pillab kõik käest maha.
. See,mis sa naeratades kinkisid,
voib kunagi otsa saada,aga naeratus jääb,
aga naeratus jääb.
Karl Ristikivi luuletusest:
" Ka sisaliku tee kivil jätab jälje,
kuigi me seda ei näe.
Iga mõte, mis tuleb ja läheb,
jääb kuhugi alles.
See, mis sa naeratades kinkisid,
võib kunagi otsa saada,
aga naeratus jääb.
Rõõm, mida sa kinni püüda ei teadnud,
jääb igavesti ootama.
Isegi ütlemata jäänud sõnad
on mõttes öeldud
ja kuhugi tallele pandud.
Kuidas muidu meie lühikeste päevade arv
saab täita aja ääretud salved.
Kuidas muidu üksainus silmapilk
võib kivi paigalt veeretada.
See, kellele on vähe antud,
kannab seda oma südame kohal.
See, kellele on palju antud,
pillab kõik käest maha.
Kõigi teede pikkus ajas on võrdne"
Kõigi teede pikkus ajas on võrdne
Kõigi teede pikkus Ajas on võrdne...
(: Tervitades neid kellel naeratus jääb!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhmacCxqo4g
See, kellele on palju antud, kannab seda südame kohal.
See, kellele on palju antud, pillab kõik käest maha.
. See,mis sa naeratades kinkisid,
voib kunagi otsa saada,aga naeratus jääb,
aga naeratus jääb.
Karl Ristikivi luuletusest:
" Ka sisaliku tee kivil jätab jälje,
kuigi me seda ei näe.
Iga mõte, mis tuleb ja läheb,
jääb kuhugi alles.
See, mis sa naeratades kinkisid,
võib kunagi otsa saada,
aga naeratus jääb.
Rõõm, mida sa kinni püüda ei teadnud,
jääb igavesti ootama.
Isegi ütlemata jäänud sõnad
on mõttes öeldud
ja kuhugi tallele pandud.
Kuidas muidu meie lühikeste päevade arv
saab täita aja ääretud salved.
Kuidas muidu üksainus silmapilk
võib kivi paigalt veeretada.
See, kellele on vähe antud,
kannab seda oma südame kohal.
See, kellele on palju antud,
pillab kõik käest maha.
Kõigi teede pikkus ajas on võrdne"
Kõigi teede pikkus ajas on võrdne
Kõigi teede pikkus Ajas on võrdne...
(: Tervitades neid kellel naeratus jääb!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhmacCxqo4g
14 May 2012 13:18
Margus Meigo commented on Raadio Elmar's post.
ei tea kas meil harilikustkanepist ka laule säilinud või koguni uusi tehtud on ? Joodavast on küll terve salve täis... omapärane, mis maa see on :)
Näe sisask laulab meil sellest siin kuid..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry9A1Pfww68
Näe sisask laulab meil sellest siin kuid..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry9A1Pfww68
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry9A1Pfww68
14 May 2012 13:10
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Mikkin's post.
Is that a real hotel or is this a vision?
Its great when we start to move in to out from the box mindset while building :))
Its great when we start to move in to out from the box mindset while building :))
14 May 2012 12:47
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
xD
12 May 2012 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
& sama siin https://www.facebook.com/sun.gazing47 kui allapoole kerida :)
12 May 2012 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
...well, this was a spoiler but still, worth a look perhaps, will do it my self in these days :)
12 May 2012 03:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
or they got stoned one night when was looking the SnowWithe and while eating apple himself he wondered - this would make damn good logo dude!
But story gos, he newer give full, or even nearly enough mentioning credits to the mind technology that powered the great vision, worst jet, story gos that one was knowingly not talking about it a lot in public..
strange guy he was, to bad i was not able to meet him up before one left from public arena
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCLk8-4jXnk
But story gos, he newer give full, or even nearly enough mentioning credits to the mind technology that powered the great vision, worst jet, story gos that one was knowingly not talking about it a lot in public..
strange guy he was, to bad i was not able to meet him up before one left from public arena
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCLk8-4jXnk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCLk8-4jXnk
12 May 2012 02:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Is that happened to you as well?
12 May 2012 02:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tsekka muid pilte ka https://www.facebook.com/gemurphy53 wallilt, päris päris far out :)
12 May 2012 02:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Natuke põnevust veel juurde:
(kontrollimata source)
Anthropology / Human Body / Psychotronic weapons : Brain Manipulation From a Distance (sounds cool!)
http://istina.rin.ru/eng/ufo/text/360.html
Though in the open scientific literature only some 30 experiments were published, supporting this assumption (1),(2), already in 1974, in the USSR, after succesfull testing with military unit in Novosibirsk, the installation Radioson (Radiosleep) was registered with the Government Committee on the Matters of Inventions and Discoveries of the USSR, described as a method of induction of sleep by means of radio waves (3), (4), (5). In the scientific literature technical feasibility of making a human being asleep by radio waves is confirmed in the book by English scientist carrying out research on the biological effects of electromagnetism (6). In the report by World Health Association on nonionizing radiation from 1991 we read "Many of biological effects observed in animals exposed to ELF fields appear to be associated, either directly or indirectly, with the nervous system" (2).
Among the published experiments there are experiments where pulsed microwaves caused the synchronization of isolated neurons with the frequency of pulsing of microwaves - for example a neuron firing at a frequency 0.8 Hz was forced in this way to fire the impulses at a frequency of 1 Hz. As well pulsed microwaves changed the concentration of neurotransmitters in brain (neurotransmitters are a part of the mechanism which causes the firing of neurons in the brain) and reinforced or attenuated the effects of drugs delivered into the brain (1). The experiment where the main brain frequencies registered by EEG were synchronized with therequency of microwave pulsing (1,2) might explain the function of the Russian installation Radioson. Microwaves pulsed in the sleep frequency would cause the synchronization of the brain activity with the sleep frequency and in this way produce the sleep. Pulsing of microwaves in frequency predominating in the brain at awaked state could by the same procedure deny the sleep to a human being.
A report derived from the testing program of the Microwave Research Department at the Walter Read Army Institute of research states "Microwave pulses appear to couple to the central nervous system and produce stimulation similar to electric stimulation unrelated to heat". In a many times replicated experiment microwaves pulsed in an exact frequency caused the efflux of calcium ions from the nerve cells (1,2). Calcium plays a key role in the firing of neurons and Ross Adey, member of the first scientific team which published this experiment, publically expressed his conviction that this effect of electromagnetic radiation would interfere with concentration on complex tasks (7).
Robert Becker, who had share in the discovery of the effect of pulsedields at the healing of broken bones, published the excerpts from the reportrom Walter Reed Army Institute testing program. In the first part "prompt debilitation effects" should have been tested (8). Were not those effects based on the experiment by Ross Adey and others with calcium efflux ? British scientist John Evans, working in the same field, wrote that both Ross Adey and Robert Becker lost their positions and research grants and called them "free-thinking exiles" (6). In 1975, in the USA, a military experiment was published where pulsed microwaves produced, in the brain of a human subject, an audio perception of numbers from 1 to 10 (9). Again the possibility to convince human being that it is mentally ill is obvious.
The testing program of American Walter Read Army Institute of Research, where the experiment took place, counts with "prompt auditory stimulation by means of auditory effects" and finally aims at "behavior controled by stimulation" (8). Let us imagine that the words delivered into the brain were transcribed into ultrasound frequencies. Would not then the subject perceive those words as his own thoughts? And could not then his behavior be controled in this way? The American Air Force 1982 "Final Report On Biotechnology Research Requirements For Aeronautical Systems Through the Year 2000" states: "While initial attention should be toward degradation of human performance through thermal loading and electromagnetic field effects, subsequent work should address the possibilities of directing and interrogating mental functioning, using externally applied fields" (10). Several scientists warned that latest advances in neurophysiology could be used for the manipulation of human brain. In June 1995, Michael Persinger, who worked on the American Navy's project of Non-lethal electromagnetic weapons (11), published, in a scientific magazine, an article where he states: the technical capability to influence directly the major portion of the approximately six billion brains of the human species without mediation through classical sensory modalities by generating neural information within a physical medium within which all members of the species are immersed is now marginally feasible" (12). In 1998, the French National Bioethics Committee warned that neuroscience is being increasingly recognized as posing potential threat to human rights" (13).
In May 1999 the neuroscientists conference, sponsored by the UN, took place in Tokyo. In the declaration we read: "Today we have intellectual, physical andinancial resources to master the power of the brain itself, and to develop devices to touch the mind and even control or erase consciousnessWe wish to profess our hope that such pursuit of knowledge serves peace and welfare" (14).
The events at the international political scene, in the last few years, confirm that the concept of remote control of human brain is a matter of negotiations. In January 1999 the European Parliament passed a resolution where it calls for an international convention introducing a global ban on all developments and deployments of weapons which might enable any form of manipulation of human beings." (15) Already in 1997 nine states of the Union of Independent States addressed OUN, OBSE and the states of the Interparliamentary Union with the proposal to place at the agenda of the General Assembly of the Organization of United Nations the preparation and conclusion of an international convention On Prevention of Informational Wars and Limitation of Circulation of Informational Weapons" (17), (3). The initiative was originaly proposed, in the Russian State Duma, by Vladimir Lopatin (1). V. Lopatin worked,rom 1990 to 1995, in sequence, in the Committees on Security of the Russian Federation, Russian State Duma and Interparliamentary Assembly of the Commonwealth of Independent States, specializing in informational security (3).
The concept of informational weapon or informational war is rather unknown to the world general public. In 1999, V. Lopatin, together with Russian scientist Vladimir Tsygankov, published a book Psychotronic Weapon and the Security of Russia".
(kontrollimata source)
Anthropology / Human Body / Psychotronic weapons : Brain Manipulation From a Distance (sounds cool!)
http://istina.rin.ru/eng/ufo/text/360.html
Though in the open scientific literature only some 30 experiments were published, supporting this assumption (1),(2), already in 1974, in the USSR, after succesfull testing with military unit in Novosibirsk, the installation Radioson (Radiosleep) was registered with the Government Committee on the Matters of Inventions and Discoveries of the USSR, described as a method of induction of sleep by means of radio waves (3), (4), (5). In the scientific literature technical feasibility of making a human being asleep by radio waves is confirmed in the book by English scientist carrying out research on the biological effects of electromagnetism (6). In the report by World Health Association on nonionizing radiation from 1991 we read "Many of biological effects observed in animals exposed to ELF fields appear to be associated, either directly or indirectly, with the nervous system" (2).
Among the published experiments there are experiments where pulsed microwaves caused the synchronization of isolated neurons with the frequency of pulsing of microwaves - for example a neuron firing at a frequency 0.8 Hz was forced in this way to fire the impulses at a frequency of 1 Hz. As well pulsed microwaves changed the concentration of neurotransmitters in brain (neurotransmitters are a part of the mechanism which causes the firing of neurons in the brain) and reinforced or attenuated the effects of drugs delivered into the brain (1). The experiment where the main brain frequencies registered by EEG were synchronized with therequency of microwave pulsing (1,2) might explain the function of the Russian installation Radioson. Microwaves pulsed in the sleep frequency would cause the synchronization of the brain activity with the sleep frequency and in this way produce the sleep. Pulsing of microwaves in frequency predominating in the brain at awaked state could by the same procedure deny the sleep to a human being.
A report derived from the testing program of the Microwave Research Department at the Walter Read Army Institute of research states "Microwave pulses appear to couple to the central nervous system and produce stimulation similar to electric stimulation unrelated to heat". In a many times replicated experiment microwaves pulsed in an exact frequency caused the efflux of calcium ions from the nerve cells (1,2). Calcium plays a key role in the firing of neurons and Ross Adey, member of the first scientific team which published this experiment, publically expressed his conviction that this effect of electromagnetic radiation would interfere with concentration on complex tasks (7).
Robert Becker, who had share in the discovery of the effect of pulsedields at the healing of broken bones, published the excerpts from the reportrom Walter Reed Army Institute testing program. In the first part "prompt debilitation effects" should have been tested (8). Were not those effects based on the experiment by Ross Adey and others with calcium efflux ? British scientist John Evans, working in the same field, wrote that both Ross Adey and Robert Becker lost their positions and research grants and called them "free-thinking exiles" (6). In 1975, in the USA, a military experiment was published where pulsed microwaves produced, in the brain of a human subject, an audio perception of numbers from 1 to 10 (9). Again the possibility to convince human being that it is mentally ill is obvious.
The testing program of American Walter Read Army Institute of Research, where the experiment took place, counts with "prompt auditory stimulation by means of auditory effects" and finally aims at "behavior controled by stimulation" (8). Let us imagine that the words delivered into the brain were transcribed into ultrasound frequencies. Would not then the subject perceive those words as his own thoughts? And could not then his behavior be controled in this way? The American Air Force 1982 "Final Report On Biotechnology Research Requirements For Aeronautical Systems Through the Year 2000" states: "While initial attention should be toward degradation of human performance through thermal loading and electromagnetic field effects, subsequent work should address the possibilities of directing and interrogating mental functioning, using externally applied fields" (10). Several scientists warned that latest advances in neurophysiology could be used for the manipulation of human brain. In June 1995, Michael Persinger, who worked on the American Navy's project of Non-lethal electromagnetic weapons (11), published, in a scientific magazine, an article where he states: the technical capability to influence directly the major portion of the approximately six billion brains of the human species without mediation through classical sensory modalities by generating neural information within a physical medium within which all members of the species are immersed is now marginally feasible" (12). In 1998, the French National Bioethics Committee warned that neuroscience is being increasingly recognized as posing potential threat to human rights" (13).
In May 1999 the neuroscientists conference, sponsored by the UN, took place in Tokyo. In the declaration we read: "Today we have intellectual, physical andinancial resources to master the power of the brain itself, and to develop devices to touch the mind and even control or erase consciousnessWe wish to profess our hope that such pursuit of knowledge serves peace and welfare" (14).
The events at the international political scene, in the last few years, confirm that the concept of remote control of human brain is a matter of negotiations. In January 1999 the European Parliament passed a resolution where it calls for an international convention introducing a global ban on all developments and deployments of weapons which might enable any form of manipulation of human beings." (15) Already in 1997 nine states of the Union of Independent States addressed OUN, OBSE and the states of the Interparliamentary Union with the proposal to place at the agenda of the General Assembly of the Organization of United Nations the preparation and conclusion of an international convention On Prevention of Informational Wars and Limitation of Circulation of Informational Weapons" (17), (3). The initiative was originaly proposed, in the Russian State Duma, by Vladimir Lopatin (1). V. Lopatin worked,rom 1990 to 1995, in sequence, in the Committees on Security of the Russian Federation, Russian State Duma and Interparliamentary Assembly of the Commonwealth of Independent States, specializing in informational security (3).
The concept of informational weapon or informational war is rather unknown to the world general public. In 1999, V. Lopatin, together with Russian scientist Vladimir Tsygankov, published a book Psychotronic Weapon and the Security of Russia".
http://istina.rin.ru/eng/ufo/text/360.html
10 May 2012 20:46
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's photo.
Good movie it is,
but wonder how much in real life actions like that will make world better
but wonder how much in real life actions like that will make world better
10 May 2012 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
So what come to your mind Erich?
im not so good at explaining my self relating these matters
im not so good at explaining my self relating these matters
10 May 2012 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
How come ? : )
10 May 2012 13:54
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
i mean the hot haircut
10 May 2012 13:38
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
Looking him up took me in the end to the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKWbMJOIkUk
ehh.. newer know that Korean pop band style was hot in us
ehh.. newer know that Korean pop band style was hot in us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKWbMJOIkUk
10 May 2012 13:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Can We?
9 May 2012 14:22
Margus Meigo commented on Infowar Coalition's link.
..not that there is something necessarily bad about military and particular corporations
but just wondering how hippi-dippy supporters are all cool with that..
but just wondering how hippi-dippy supporters are all cool with that..
9 May 2012 13:27
Margus Meigo commented on Infowar Coalition's link.
Whats up with this ron poul guy anyway... wasn't hes previous campaigns mostly supported by military and some other corporations... just makes me wonder, why him not others who have a soul
9 May 2012 13:25
Margus Meigo commented on Infowar Coalition's post.
wants.. xD
9 May 2012 13:24
Margus Meigo commented on Erki Arusoo's photo.
Hey cool duud,
kuida kulgenud on ?
kuida kulgenud on ?
9 May 2012 11:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Bad cop and good cop, yes, no`?
8 May 2012 11:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
" Jared Polis, a Democratic rep for Colorado, issued similar concerns, stating, “CISPA represents a massive government overreach in the name of security” and that “Any America that values his or her privacy should be concerned "
- yes.. only america..
- yes.. only america..
2 May 2012 21:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Overgrow The World v2.0
I can get some information about soil as well if needed :)2 May 2012 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on Tobias Anand Schneider's link.
But i stay clear as i can in these days. Near by plans to come over here for visit?
Perhaps you can meet also missing girl who's wall to decorate, and just not only in fb ;)
besides that life, church & projects, all well?
---
( heey.. and just some news poped up: what is the sift in Germany?
http://rt.com/usa/news/us-religious-census-unveiled-417 - "the number of Muslim adherents rose by 66.7 per cent between 2000 and 2010, reaching slightly over 2.6 million, compared to over 1 million in 2000. The rise is believed to be fueled by both immigration and conversions.
For the first time, American Muslims outnumbered Jews in most of the country’s Midwest and parts of the South. They were even more numerous than Mormons during the given period.
The number of Mormons grew by 45 per cent to 6.1 million in 2010." )
Perhaps you can meet also missing girl who's wall to decorate, and just not only in fb ;)
besides that life, church & projects, all well?
---
( heey.. and just some news poped up: what is the sift in Germany?
http://rt.com/usa/news/us-religious-census-unveiled-417 - "the number of Muslim adherents rose by 66.7 per cent between 2000 and 2010, reaching slightly over 2.6 million, compared to over 1 million in 2000. The rise is believed to be fueled by both immigration and conversions.
For the first time, American Muslims outnumbered Jews in most of the country’s Midwest and parts of the South. They were even more numerous than Mormons during the given period.
The number of Mormons grew by 45 per cent to 6.1 million in 2010." )
http://rt.com/usa/news/us-religious-census-unveiled-417/
2 May 2012 19:52
Margus Meigo commented on Tobias Anand Schneider's link.
Aww.. tis is way cute and well good thinking Tobias :)
1st may for most estonians (well, speaking for everyone now..) i belove is not so big deal compared to our Jaani Päev or the last day of April and 1st may night called Volbriöö (Walpurgis Night) - the night originally stood for the gathering and meeting of witches, as for Germans
1st may for most estonians (well, speaking for everyone now..) i belove is not so big deal compared to our Jaani Päev or the last day of April and 1st may night called Volbriöö (Walpurgis Night) - the night originally stood for the gathering and meeting of witches, as for Germans
2 May 2012 19:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Dolphin Boy tells the story of Morad - a young Arab-Israeli, who dissociated himself from reality due to a severe trauma. After he is taken by his father to be treated with dolphins in the Red Sea , his father bring him back to life with the help of The ocean, the dolphins and his unconditional love for his son.
His story has been documented for the past three years.
The filmmakers participated at the Greenhouse 4th year program and signed a distribution agreement with First Hand Films at the Greenhouse final pitching forum in December 2009. The film is supported by The Second Israeli authority, ARTE, Channel 4 UK and The New Foundation for Cinema & TV, Israel. The film was commissioned recently by DRTV – Denmark
http://vimeo.com/21753092
http://www.ghfilmcentre.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=120:the-dolphin&catid=11:showcase-gh4&Itemid=34
His story has been documented for the past three years.
The filmmakers participated at the Greenhouse 4th year program and signed a distribution agreement with First Hand Films at the Greenhouse final pitching forum in December 2009. The film is supported by The Second Israeli authority, ARTE, Channel 4 UK and The New Foundation for Cinema & TV, Israel. The film was commissioned recently by DRTV – Denmark
http://vimeo.com/21753092
http://www.ghfilmcentre.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=120:the-dolphin&catid=11:showcase-gh4&Itemid=34
http://vimeo.com/21753092
2 May 2012 19:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
It has always been easy but real lock is fear that is implanted in to people, different flavors.
Is 'illegalization' a real word bdw? Sounds kewl
Is 'illegalization' a real word bdw? Sounds kewl
2 May 2012 18:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/04/online-drug-market-takedown
" including $2,160 that an undercover agent with the Drug Enforcement Administration sent him to buy about 30 grams of LSD "
- this is about 200 000 dosages of LSD with price of 1 cent per dosage
IN Estonia... people pay like umm 15 to 25 euros, for now
.:.
" including $2,160 that an undercover agent with the Drug Enforcement Administration sent him to buy about 30 grams of LSD "
- this is about 200 000 dosages of LSD with price of 1 cent per dosage
IN Estonia... people pay like umm 15 to 25 euros, for now
.:.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/04/online-drug-market-takedown/
1 May 2012 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on Halil Yavuz's post.
Group: Exchanges network
Huggs brother :)1 May 2012 22:51
Margus Meigo commented on Tomás Ballardi's post.
Group: Erowid
Some more serious news:
Eight men charged with running an elaborate online narcotics market that sold drugs to 3,000 people in the United States and 34 other countries have been arrested following a two-year investigation dubbed "Operation Adam Bomb," prosecutors said on Monday.
The secret ring known as "The Farmer's Market" operated through the TOR computer network, which allows users to communicate anonymously
...
Authorities said the defendants were accused of running one of the most sophisticated drug marketplaces on the Internet and said the prosecution represented a first of its kind.
...
Marc Willems, 42, who is accused of creating and running "The Farmer's Market," was taken into custody at his home in Lelystad, Netherlands, by Dutch authorities, U.S. Attorneys spokeswoman Gymeka Williams said.
Law enforcement officials in Bogota arrested 42-year-old Michael Evron, a U.S. citizen living in Argentina who allegedly oversaw technical and customer support for the online marketplace, as he was attempting to leave Colombia, Williams said.
Jonathan Colbeck, 51; Brian Colbeck, 47; Ryan Rawls, 31; Jonathan Dugan, 27; George Matzek, 20; and Charles Bigras, 37, were arrested at their respective homes in Iowa, Michigan, Georgia, New York, New Jersey and Florida.
Each faces a maximum sentence of life in prison if convicted.
According to the 66-page indictment, "The Farmer's Market" allowed independent sources to advertise illegal drugs - including LSD, ecstasy, fentanyl, mescaline ketamine, DMT and high-end marijuana - for sale to the public.
The law enforcement operation was called "Adam Bomb" because the original name of the marketplace was Adamflowers, according to the indictment.
https://www.google.ee/search?&q=The+Farmer's+Market+lsd
Oehh... this just cant keep going on like that for long...https://www.google.ee/search?&q=The+Farmer%27s+Market+lsd
1 May 2012 22:20
Margus Meigo commented on Tomás Ballardi's post.
Group: Erowid
lol, read that one:
http://www.ricethresher.org/student-transported-to-hospital-after-taking-designer-drug-2-5i-1.2847399
"Rice University Chief of Police Johnny Whitehead said
the student who provided 2,5i was investigated by RUPD, who then uncovered a small amount of DMT, a type of Methamphetamine, in his room "
a type of Methamphetamine.. xDhttp://www.ricethresher.org/student-transported-to-hospital-after-taking-designer-drug-2-5i-1.2847399
1 May 2012 21:35
Margus Meigo commented on NJ Gregory's post.
Group: Erowid
" Historical Document
Posted: Apr 09, 2007 11:47 AM
Last Updated: Dec 30, 2011 01:20 PM
Last Reviewed: Dec 30, 2011 01:20 PM "
Noo.. they actually updated it after that (lol before Christmas?).. but still.. looks .. pretty much same ;)29 April 2012 01:33
Margus Meigo commented on NJ Gregory's post.
Group: Erowid
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1015323620093&set=a.1538241892723.2077795.1135161043&type=3&theater :P (read comments to see link to cia website)29 April 2012 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s link.
I am so proud of my own post i would totally like it my self
28 April 2012 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on Richard Brumfield Jr.'s link.
No wonder people get paranoid after smoking once they start to think - it is .. illegal=? !
Like Whoo... how come ? Like seriously now.. HOW COME?
But seriously, its like living in asylum with outdated raw militaristic kindergarten rules,
but it only looks so .. up to... you step out of it, then we see that its alright, it just takes time and you was ahead of it
the evolution - or what they call it lately?
Like Whoo... how come ? Like seriously now.. HOW COME?
But seriously, its like living in asylum with outdated raw militaristic kindergarten rules,
but it only looks so .. up to... you step out of it, then we see that its alright, it just takes time and you was ahead of it
the evolution - or what they call it lately?
28 April 2012 22:27
Margus Meigo commented on NJ Gregory's post.
Group: Erowid
But to be real.. all this can not be calculated - at all, as there will be way to many chnages happening, where it leads, and this is scary for many who do not like seemingly fast and huge global change19 April 2012 21:49
Margus Meigo commented on Zoe Wang's post.
Group: Chinese
Is that some kind of marketing thing going on here... and are you real Zoe .. as you only talk about biz.. just wondering :)19 April 2012 21:43
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's post.
Group: Isamaalise kasvatuse keskus
Kui palju aktiivseid skaute muidu eestis on kes hingega tegelevad?19 April 2012 21:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
James, near forest in Tallinn :)
18 April 2012 13:57
Margus Meigo commented on Märt Põder's link.
Kui mult üle 150ne tuhandest summat nõuti siis ma tegelt lihtsalt antsin mõista, et mul ei ole seda ja ma kunagi ei hakkaks maksma ka selliselt nõutud summasi .. kuid jah, mul läks õnneks kuna riik oli minu poolel.
Väga sõbralik ja mõistlik abi pakuti riigi poolt. Kui ma vaid nime mäletaks..
Kuid jah, kui kaotus käega katusuda otsuse osas on nagunii siis tasuks kindlasti viimase silbini kasutada võimalust, et istujatele selgeks teha mis elu on... :)
Väga sõbralik ja mõistlik abi pakuti riigi poolt. Kui ma vaid nime mäletaks..
Kuid jah, kui kaotus käega katusuda otsuse osas on nagunii siis tasuks kindlasti viimase silbini kasutada võimalust, et istujatele selgeks teha mis elu on... :)
18 April 2012 13:15
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Raave's photo.
but if one can not buy tea... whats up then ?
18 April 2012 13:09
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Vissak's post.
Tegelt me võime ennast pidevalt häti tunda ilma millegati, koguaeg :))
18 April 2012 12:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://vimeo.com/14140115 (part one)
http://vimeo.com/14262779 (part two)
Great forum post about conference
http://www.africaspeaks.com/reasoning/index.php?topic=7012.0
http://multiworldindia.org/06/academic-imperialism/
http://www.youtube.com/user/U574D
http://vimeo.com/channels/tvmultiversity
http://tvmultiversity.blogspot.com/ pretti good blog!
http://vimeo.com/14262779 (part two)
Great forum post about conference
http://www.africaspeaks.com/reasoning/index.php?topic=7012.0
http://multiworldindia.org/06/academic-imperialism/
http://www.youtube.com/user/U574D
http://vimeo.com/channels/tvmultiversity
http://tvmultiversity.blogspot.com/ pretti good blog!
http://vimeo.com/14140115
18 April 2012 06:11
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Kychma's link.
This RSA things... more and more last time i was looking them, it seemed like its all one big marketing, but this particular video is good :)
18 April 2012 05:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Darling, this is a one song i do not like to connect with Africa :p
18 April 2012 05:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Actually i would really really Like if someone can help me out with seeds, as for eating and planting :)
18 April 2012 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Books from Paul
Agenda, a Plan for Action (1971)
Exit Inflation (1981)
Jobs for All: Capitalism on Trial (1984)
Damn the Torpedoes (1990)
Funny Money: A common sense alternative to mainline economics (1994)
Surviving the Global Financial Crisis: The Economics of Hope for Generation X (1996)
Evil Empire : Globalization's Darker Side (1997)
Stop: Think (1999) http://www.amazon.com/Stop-Think-Paul-Hellyer/dp/0969439466/ (This is probably the best book one can get on economic history as related to the creation and use of money over the last 100 years.)
Goodbye Canada (2001)
One Big Party: To Keep Canada Independent (2003)
A Miracle in Waiting (2010), update of Surviving the Global Financial Crisis
Light at the End of the Tunnel: A Survival Plan for the Human Species (2010) http://www.amazon.com/Light-End-Tunnel-Survival-Species/dp/1449076122/ ("If President George W. Bush wanted to find the real axis of evil," writes Hellyer, "he had only look at the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the Bank for Reconstruction and Development (World Bank) and the World Trade Organization.")
Agenda, a Plan for Action (1971)
Exit Inflation (1981)
Jobs for All: Capitalism on Trial (1984)
Damn the Torpedoes (1990)
Funny Money: A common sense alternative to mainline economics (1994)
Surviving the Global Financial Crisis: The Economics of Hope for Generation X (1996)
Evil Empire : Globalization's Darker Side (1997)
Stop: Think (1999) http://www.amazon.com/Stop-Think-Paul-Hellyer/dp/0969439466/ (This is probably the best book one can get on economic history as related to the creation and use of money over the last 100 years.)
Goodbye Canada (2001)
One Big Party: To Keep Canada Independent (2003)
A Miracle in Waiting (2010), update of Surviving the Global Financial Crisis
Light at the End of the Tunnel: A Survival Plan for the Human Species (2010) http://www.amazon.com/Light-End-Tunnel-Survival-Species/dp/1449076122/ ("If President George W. Bush wanted to find the real axis of evil," writes Hellyer, "he had only look at the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the Bank for Reconstruction and Development (World Bank) and the World Trade Organization.")
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0969439466/ref=tsm_1_fb_lk
18 April 2012 03:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I wonder if these aliens they talking about are the same kind people get in contact when they get proper access to psychedelics... must look in to that.. :)
18 April 2012 03:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0oLJNfs_rM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0oLJNfs_rM
18 April 2012 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on Matt Marshall's photo.
whats up with da cocacola man .. :)
18 April 2012 02:33
Margus Meigo commented on Hip hop's link.
But i do wonder.. what values are these.. :)
18 April 2012 02:30
Margus Meigo commented on Jodie Emery's post.
Wonder why everyone is so hype about Ron only...
17 April 2012 19:52
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
ma vaatasin et see marko alguses xD
16 April 2012 21:25
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
... ja kui sul resurssi tekib... siis u know, sama mis tiigi ääres ja mida emaga jagatud sai, ainult suurem ;)
16 April 2012 21:25
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
võta peale :=)
16 April 2012 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
emm.. kle mis su number muidu on ?
16 April 2012 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
saada mulle oma number ka... emm mul kuskile poole kadunud :)
16 April 2012 21:22
Margus Meigo commented on Lou Ramirez's photo.
We say here -
Targem annab järele :)
Targem annab järele :)
16 April 2012 16:28
Margus Meigo commented on Lou Ramirez's photo.
Why would god bother to watch you (for your luck) how someone is falling ? Just small internet meme mistake :)
--All is right but in the end, (if you are lucky) you can see how the ones mentioned are doing perfectly good, as your joy is Way bigger when someone is doing well, or is it not brothers and sisters ?
--All is right but in the end, (if you are lucky) you can see how the ones mentioned are doing perfectly good, as your joy is Way bigger when someone is doing well, or is it not brothers and sisters ?
16 April 2012 16:27
Margus Meigo commented on Lou Ramirez's photo.
Looks tasty even after i have been away from meat for some time .. :)
16 April 2012 16:21
Margus Meigo commented on Iivika Elva's post.
Kas on muidu teada kuidas kõik need vanad vaksiinid tuleviku vaksiinidest kuni toidulisadeni ohutult koostöös toimivad?
Lihtsalt selline mõte tuli, et kas ikka tasub iga mõne aasta tagant uuesti vaksineerida uue ja uue tüve vastu mis on teada, et tuleb ?
Lihtsalt selline mõte tuli, et kas ikka tasub iga mõne aasta tagant uuesti vaksineerida uue ja uue tüve vastu mis on teada, et tuleb ?
16 April 2012 15:56
Margus Meigo commented on Iivika Elva's post.
Mul tervis suht korras olnud peale seda juba pikki aastaid kui vaksineerimise ära lõpetasin (mul erinevad kroonilised haigused olid seoses külmetustega), majutasin notsugripis turiste ükskord kuna need kartsid, et pannakse haiglasse kinni :p
kuum ravitee ja ülejärgmisel päeval olime juba koos peol :)
- kuid see lihtsalt minu kokkusattumus
kuum ravitee ja ülejärgmisel päeval olime juba koos peol :)
- kuid see lihtsalt minu kokkusattumus
16 April 2012 15:54
Margus Meigo commented on Jaano Martin Ots's photo.
Astu sisse!;)
16 April 2012 15:43
Margus Meigo commented on Nokitse's post.
Miks peaks tahtma lill tennise - kummi sees elada` Just wondering :)
15 April 2012 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on 63 Documents the Government Doesn't Want You to Read's post.
I wonder... what about these amazon comments: http://www.amazon.com/Documents-Government-Doesnt-Want-Read/product-reviews/1616082267/ref=cm_cr_dp_hist_one?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar `?
http://www.amazon.com/Documents-Government-Doesnt-Want-Read/product-reviews/1616082267/ref=cm_cr_dp_hist_one?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar
15 April 2012 19:31
Margus Meigo commented on Akash Roy's link.
Really
15 April 2012 19:24
Margus Meigo commented on Tayeb Wahmane's link.
Really
15 April 2012 19:24
Margus Meigo commented on Freewheeling Gary Falkenberg's photo.
estonian gasmask:p
11 April 2012 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on The Beckley Foundation's link.
Can we have instead a Like - an *Agree* button here
as.. do i like that police wastes time or do i like legal hights or do i like plans to ban legal highs .. from pramiyana to floating camber and merry-go-around .. women and
well, is that list not endless, is it not?
And considering acid is colorless, has no smell, and half a gram can dose thousands of people for some time, can be hided anywhere and turned in to active with child instructions..... well, what aar these people ordering?)
as.. do i like that police wastes time or do i like legal hights or do i like plans to ban legal highs .. from pramiyana to floating camber and merry-go-around .. women and
well, is that list not endless, is it not?
And considering acid is colorless, has no smell, and half a gram can dose thousands of people for some time, can be hided anywhere and turned in to active with child instructions..... well, what aar these people ordering?)
3 April 2012 16:00
Margus Meigo commented on Raivo Raave's photo.
60ndate sex symbol :)
3 April 2012 15:55
Margus Meigo commented on The Teafaerie's post.
There is button on most keyboards for situations like that on right side called "print screen" ;)
3 April 2012 08:29
Margus Meigo commented on Gildon R Turner's post.
Was trying to get in to it earlier times but well.. did not work for me whoever the women is:)
3 April 2012 08:28
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Esimene lumi, karga karga :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44yMqh1rfRI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44yMqh1rfRI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44yMqh1rfRI
3 April 2012 08:25
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's link.
I will try to listen him again when time comes but he kind of lost me few years ago with aggressive interpretations and ... facts that looked theatrical
maybe militarists would not be so aggressive after we share some real love and compassion :)
maybe militarists would not be so aggressive after we share some real love and compassion :)
1 April 2012 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on Rohke Debelakk's link.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20179745/man-ticketed-after-cat-refuses-jog
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20179745/man-ticketed-after-cat-refuses-jog
1 April 2012 17:00
Margus Meigo commented on Rohke Debelakk's link.
Endel - its all how one uses it ;)
But yeah... kui metsapoole (halvas mõttes) me oleks kui meil poleks koduloomi mis meie täieliku robostamist aeglustab..
kuid ka loomadel on limiidid - nende taluvusel - "kaua võib!" mõtlevad meist nii mõnetki.
But yeah... kui metsapoole (halvas mõttes) me oleks kui meil poleks koduloomi mis meie täieliku robostamist aeglustab..
kuid ka loomadel on limiidid - nende taluvusel - "kaua võib!" mõtlevad meist nii mõnetki.
1 April 2012 16:57
Margus Meigo commented on Rohke Debelakk's photo.
You are free to do as i tell you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mssKE_b48k
(:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mssKE_b48k
(:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mssKE_b48k
1 April 2012 16:54
Margus Meigo commented on Andrew Carter's photo.
i wonder why the ones with limits are considered as genius
(:
(:
1 April 2012 16:52
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's link.
Was alex not just worried that guns are taken away or something like that
1 April 2012 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's photo.
Kas teile seal ei õpetata et joomine ja söömine kurjast on :P
Igatahes, jagage uudist, mida head uut kogesite ja mida kaasa tõite.
Kus olite ja mida tegite,
ahjaa, uudisHimu ise ka vast kurjast kuid noh... eks me kõik natuke patusta ;)
Igatahes, jagage uudist, mida head uut kogesite ja mida kaasa tõite.
Kus olite ja mida tegite,
ahjaa, uudisHimu ise ka vast kurjast kuid noh... eks me kõik natuke patusta ;)
1 April 2012 00:42
Margus Meigo commented on Maria Zerafa's post.
... good self-reflectioon
1 April 2012 00:19
Margus Meigo commented on Diana Sunshine Wulf's post.
Group: The "Marijuana Tea" Party
What happened with old good peace and love your fellow co-earthelers ?1 April 2012 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
The King size :)
27 March 2012 03:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
But as of now is still so could that i actually need to go under blanket before freezing my fingers off
March surprised me but as long water is not freezing in room temperature i guess its bearable :P
March surprised me but as long water is not freezing in room temperature i guess its bearable :P
27 March 2012 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on Clark Crawford's photo.
If people would have spend more mendatory 420s perhaps there would have not been 911, just saying.. :)
27 March 2012 02:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
or really really good looking http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHHEcmZtJvY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHHEcmZtJvY
27 March 2012 02:10
Margus Meigo commented on J Alexander Portby's post.
Greets and Tervist to us Juri :)
27 March 2012 02:00
Margus Meigo commented on Justin Givler's post.
I share the pleasure Jay :)
27 March 2012 01:59
Margus Meigo commented on World Cleanup Day's post.
There is many other amazing eye-opening fungi's also you can find from nature ;)
27 March 2012 01:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I guess we can assume i really really like it
27 March 2012 01:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTCuQ5FzhYg HD also ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTCuQ5FzhYg
27 March 2012 01:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Vanessa version, with lyrics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8rU2CK_1FI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8rU2CK_1FI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8rU2CK_1FI
27 March 2012 00:40
Margus Meigo commented on Gildon R Turner's photo.
try to cut down with the shooting man, unless u shooting wise words :)
27 March 2012 00:18
Margus Meigo commented on Parth Sharma's photo.
but seriously, should we not cut down some egg and animal eating for starters to start to appreciate plants... well, long way to go before people also are aware what pants/animals they put in their mouth, to really get what is offered... or is there
27 March 2012 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own video.
It was a bit at times but most of the winter my neighbor was able to give me some heating, so i survived to now :)
22 March 2012 13:24
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's photo.
ahahahahahahah :D:D
u made my day :D
u made my day :D
21 March 2012 22:39
Margus Meigo commented on Lehtola Jani's link.
Posted few full conserts to my wall some time ago, one of the most balanced qualty of deepnes of lyrics, music & acts they have :)
20 March 2012 17:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Nu jätan veel interpretsioone avatuks, mis moodi sa seda ümber seletaksid selgemalt? Mida rohkem lugeda seda selgemaks saab (täis postituses on veel lisa materiali kui liiga selge tundub)
:)
:)
20 March 2012 17:17
Margus Meigo commented on Parth Sharma's photo.
Chicken: ""I can say there is something wrong with this plot..."
20 March 2012 17:11
Margus Meigo commented on Kristel Pohlak's post.
Kui nii kiiresti kaotad kaalu siis vasti polegi midagi järgi, pea hoogu ka vahepeal :P
18 March 2012 22:06
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's photo.
See nii vahva, et selle pildi ülesse lükkasid :)
18 March 2012 21:55
Margus Meigo commented on Marge Karin's photo.
Timo - õnnelik :)
Allar on natuke nagu mantis :p
Allar on natuke nagu mantis :p
18 March 2012 21:54
Margus Meigo commented on Lawren Freebody's link.
Maybe they should look in to co-operating with bacteria and being interested... what is their game .. what are they doing .. :)
18 March 2012 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Thank you Lars :)
18 March 2012 00:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Nu peaasi, et mõistame ;)
15 March 2012 21:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
But at least they are sharing the original novel for free: http://www.flatlandthefilm.com/novel.php that made this movie possible
& remember, take look at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0814106/ version not http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0972374/ for first view
http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/5161346/Flatland__The_Movie_(2007)_-_the_short_film_not_the_feature_leng - get it from there mean while it will be uploaded to other locations
& remember, take look at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0814106/ version not http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0972374/ for first view
http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/5161346/Flatland__The_Movie_(2007)_-_the_short_film_not_the_feature_leng - get it from there mean while it will be uploaded to other locations
http://www.flatlandthefilm.com/novel.php
10 March 2012 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on Erik King's post.
Keep your thoughts on selfless needs and .:. will give you what you seek
10 March 2012 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on Erik King's post.
I have always wondered is there easier way to say: Forgive to Yourself
as in you, everyone is
as in you, everyone is
10 March 2012 23:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
haa, indeed, tnx :P
10 March 2012 19:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i bet it does, but more functional :)
9 March 2012 03:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Bought full versions has been taken down by Rounds by now
9 March 2012 03:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: POLIITIKA, RELIGIOON, RAHA
in the but9 March 2012 00:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1. Arhailine-instinktiivne ehk beež meem – Ellujäämistung. See valdas esimestes inimühiskondades. Ellujäämine: toit, vesi, soojus, seks ja turvalisus. „Mina” pole ärganud. Täna kannavad seda teadvust asotsiaalid, vastsündinud, seniilsed vanainimesed, vaimuhaiged, nälgivad massid, lahingušokk. Taotlus: Teravda instinkte ja kaasasündinud tundemeeli! Maailmas 0,1% täiskasvanud inimestest ja 0% võimu.
- mida siinkohal täiskasvanud inimene tähendab? Natukene segaduses...
Kuskilt keegi rääkis, et nälgivat massi, vastsündinuid & lahingushokis olevaid inimesi pidi rohkem kui 0.1% olema .. ja omakorda, et mitmed ilma rahata inimesed hoopis arenenumad südame poolest kui need kes raha maailmas ülesse kasvanud kuid samas vaesem mass isegi ei koosta %dega katekoorjaid ülejäänud inimeste suhtes, seega mis nad ka teavad
See muidugi väga rõõmustav jällegi:
" 6. Postmodernistlik ehk pluralistlik relativism on roheline meem - tundlik mina ehk Inimlik Side. Ühisus, inimlik säde, ökoloogia,tundlikkus, võrgustikud. Inimvaimu vabastamine ratio, ahnuse ja dogmade piiratusest, tunded ja hoolitsemine. Hierarhiate vastane. Süvaökoloogia, humanistlik psühholoogia, vabastusteoloogia; Maailma Kirikute Nõukogu, Greenpeace, ökofeminism jms. Taotlus: Uuri oma sisemist mina, kohtle teisi võrdselt! 10% elanikkonnast (USA-s ja Euroopas 20-25%) ja 15% võimust. "
..et 15% võimust on tundelised ja hoolitsevad inimsädeme kandiad. Ning üldse hea tunde teeb, et me rohkem valgustatud nurgas oleme use & eurooplastega
Why not, let's hope the bright future will look like that ... or is it just in my mind, that right here, right 'now' these % just confuse people ?
Eriti võib mõni numbrites kinni olev inimene peast suitsema minna kui neid %'te seal kokku liitma hakkab ja jumal teab mida veel.
Wiki artikkel juba ise on huvitavam:
" However, Spiral Dynamics does explicitly define a category of people labeled "Spiral Wizards" who have attained equilibrium around "higher level" Memes "
Kas kuskil list ka nendest võluritest on või mingi vb grupp äkki? Täitsa hängiks ja jagaks oma totalitarismo ideid nendega
Väga timm igatahes,
proovin seda laulu peas keerutada kui seda kõike loen
" Võta kurb laul ja tee see paremaks "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LGpW6SHGvE
Na-nananaaaa naaananananaaananaaanananananaaaaaa, hey dude :)
- mida siinkohal täiskasvanud inimene tähendab? Natukene segaduses...
Kuskilt keegi rääkis, et nälgivat massi, vastsündinuid & lahingushokis olevaid inimesi pidi rohkem kui 0.1% olema .. ja omakorda, et mitmed ilma rahata inimesed hoopis arenenumad südame poolest kui need kes raha maailmas ülesse kasvanud kuid samas vaesem mass isegi ei koosta %dega katekoorjaid ülejäänud inimeste suhtes, seega mis nad ka teavad
See muidugi väga rõõmustav jällegi:
" 6. Postmodernistlik ehk pluralistlik relativism on roheline meem - tundlik mina ehk Inimlik Side. Ühisus, inimlik säde, ökoloogia,tundlikkus, võrgustikud. Inimvaimu vabastamine ratio, ahnuse ja dogmade piiratusest, tunded ja hoolitsemine. Hierarhiate vastane. Süvaökoloogia, humanistlik psühholoogia, vabastusteoloogia; Maailma Kirikute Nõukogu, Greenpeace, ökofeminism jms. Taotlus: Uuri oma sisemist mina, kohtle teisi võrdselt! 10% elanikkonnast (USA-s ja Euroopas 20-25%) ja 15% võimust. "
..et 15% võimust on tundelised ja hoolitsevad inimsädeme kandiad. Ning üldse hea tunde teeb, et me rohkem valgustatud nurgas oleme use & eurooplastega
Why not, let's hope the bright future will look like that ... or is it just in my mind, that right here, right 'now' these % just confuse people ?
Eriti võib mõni numbrites kinni olev inimene peast suitsema minna kui neid %'te seal kokku liitma hakkab ja jumal teab mida veel.
Wiki artikkel juba ise on huvitavam:
" However, Spiral Dynamics does explicitly define a category of people labeled "Spiral Wizards" who have attained equilibrium around "higher level" Memes "
Kas kuskil list ka nendest võluritest on või mingi vb grupp äkki? Täitsa hängiks ja jagaks oma totalitarismo ideid nendega
Väga timm igatahes,
proovin seda laulu peas keerutada kui seda kõike loen
" Võta kurb laul ja tee see paremaks "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LGpW6SHGvE
Na-nananaaaa naaananananaaananaaanananananaaaaaa, hey dude :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LGpW6SHGvE
7 March 2012 14:04
Margus Meigo commented on Lori Leatherman's post.
Should i like or unlike this? :)
7 March 2012 03:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
vimeo
"Sorry, "Flatland Movie" was deleted at 5:54:41 Tue Mar 6, 2012.
We have no more information about it on our mainframe or elsewhere."
Use link here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE9b6flB3MY as long it lasts
.:.
Collection Agency Films just sent you a message on Vimeo:
"To whom it may concern. Hi, I'm the director of Flatland the Movie. While I am flattered you like our movie enough to upload it, we are independent filmmakers and we lose money by allowing people to view it for free. If it is not removed immediately we will have to report this violation of our copyright.
Thank you."
www.collectionagencyfilms.com can be removed now as - They have lose it, cough in programming trap
"Sorry, "Flatland Movie" was deleted at 5:54:41 Tue Mar 6, 2012.
We have no more information about it on our mainframe or elsewhere."
Use link here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE9b6flB3MY as long it lasts
.:.
Collection Agency Films just sent you a message on Vimeo:
"To whom it may concern. Hi, I'm the director of Flatland the Movie. While I am flattered you like our movie enough to upload it, we are independent filmmakers and we lose money by allowing people to view it for free. If it is not removed immediately we will have to report this violation of our copyright.
Thank you."
www.collectionagencyfilms.com can be removed now as - They have lose it, cough in programming trap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE9b6flB3MY
7 March 2012 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Zack Covell
:-)) As many have known within the OUTSIDE is a reflection of our heart frequency we collectively share. I'm not trying to "prove" anything, or say I have anyone's answers. Those a sacred contracts to be dealt with in our own divine timing. We are LOVED greatly! This is all I actually know...and that's all that matters... ♥
Radivoj Radivojevic
phi = 0.5 + ((sqrt(5)) / 2)
sqrt(5) = 2.23
my findings:
1.618 * 2.23 = 3.618
1.618^2 - 2.23 = (2 - 1.618)
1.618^3 - 2 = 2.23
1.618^4 - 2.236 = 4.618
1.618^5 - (2 * 2.23) = 6.618
Christee Thoman
Mem Man Mem
Yah Aum Yah
El Aya El
Rone OOOO Ahh Kesh Maya Hon!
Christee Thoman
please share what this means it feels good!
5 hours ago
Dontworryboutit Gibbs
formula for exploiting the center of gravity...
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=1%2C618
Keep tuned in
:-)) As many have known within the OUTSIDE is a reflection of our heart frequency we collectively share. I'm not trying to "prove" anything, or say I have anyone's answers. Those a sacred contracts to be dealt with in our own divine timing. We are LOVED greatly! This is all I actually know...and that's all that matters... ♥
Radivoj Radivojevic
phi = 0.5 + ((sqrt(5)) / 2)
sqrt(5) = 2.23
my findings:
1.618 * 2.23 = 3.618
1.618^2 - 2.23 = (2 - 1.618)
1.618^3 - 2 = 2.23
1.618^4 - 2.236 = 4.618
1.618^5 - (2 * 2.23) = 6.618
Christee Thoman
Mem Man Mem
Yah Aum Yah
El Aya El
Rone OOOO Ahh Kesh Maya Hon!
Christee Thoman
please share what this means it feels good!
5 hours ago
Dontworryboutit Gibbs
formula for exploiting the center of gravity...
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=1%2C618
Keep tuned in
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=1%2C618
7 March 2012 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7xNVYd969A
Çayın öte yüzünde
Ceylan oynar düzünde
Ben yarimi tanırım
Çifte ben var yüzünde
(Bağlantı)
Ağam yar deyme bana
Paşam yar deyme bana
Zati de vurgunum sana
Çay aşağı ben çağladım
Usul usul ağladım
Deseler yarin gelmiş
Çifte kurban bağladım
Çayın öte yüzünde
Ceylan oynar düzünde
Ben yarimi tanırım
Çifte ben var yüzünde
(Bağlantı)
Ağam yar deyme bana
Paşam yar deyme bana
Zati de vurgunum sana
Çay aşağı ben çağladım
Usul usul ağladım
Deseler yarin gelmiş
Çifte kurban bağladım
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7xNVYd969A
7 March 2012 02:37
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Siin peaks option olema et valid teksti osa mis meeldib ja liked seda osa eraldi, varsti
6 March 2012 21:44
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
unustasin öelda, et võtan astelpalju moosi, kaasa :p
C'mone people!
C'mone people!
6 March 2012 21:43
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
mmmmm....moooos
pannkoogi isu tuli selle jutuga seoses peale, pakun ennast vabatahtlikult kellegile külla kes pannkooke teeb tallinna piires
pannkoogi isu tuli selle jutuga seoses peale, pakun ennast vabatahtlikult kellegile külla kes pannkooke teeb tallinna piires
6 March 2012 17:33
Margus Meigo commented on Kert Pallo's post.
Peaks streigi koolituse andma neile, inimesed liiga palju TVd vaadanud ja ei oska enam õigesti streikida... see õpetajate asi on (oli?) ka täiesti humoorikas
6 March 2012 13:57
Margus Meigo commented on Jure Biechonski's post.
No wonder people get in scientific state if they take orders from 99% and think they are free
(what do they think..., what i should wear, what will they say, how should i walk, what can i eat, what ...)
(what do they think..., what i should wear, what will they say, how should i walk, what can i eat, what ...)
6 March 2012 13:45
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Meditate on that, it will make sense :)
6 March 2012 13:41
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Tegelt te omad inimesed, will slip you a secret now:
See siin on nö Kosmiline Psühiaatria Haigla
See siin on nö Kosmiline Psühiaatria Haigla
6 March 2012 13:41
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFeUpcIlypI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFeUpcIlypI
6 March 2012 12:28
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
aa pets kle mille põhjal sa statistikat teed, et ainult vähesed taevasse liiguvad? :)
6 March 2012 12:27
Margus Meigo commented on Les Green's post.
Group: Grandmothers Circle the Earth
Well, i have one video link on my wall that is made for this post :)
Have you seen the flatland?5 March 2012 23:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
For now i am ... still looking for last part of rent before pushing my world to the limits on the edge of finish line :)
5 March 2012 13:35
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's video.
Is it just me and my friend or you guys also can not share this video anymore?
Anyways, Andrew fans take look at this also: https://vimeo.com/groups/131611 (FlatLand movie)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=HE9b6flB3MY (yt link if fb link still not allowing to share..)
+ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOt5rs0X8Q8 is appropriate here also i guess :)
Anyways, Andrew fans take look at this also: https://vimeo.com/groups/131611 (FlatLand movie)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=HE9b6flB3MY (yt link if fb link still not allowing to share..)
+ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOt5rs0X8Q8 is appropriate here also i guess :)
http://vimeo.com/groups/131611
5 March 2012 05:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
(seriously, this is my bedroom)
5 March 2012 05:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ1Jt1hnIoQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ1Jt1hnIoQ
5 March 2012 04:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
okey, this come out naughty :D
5 March 2012 04:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
(k)
5 March 2012 03:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://vimeo.com/11864582
http://vimeo.com/11864582
5 March 2012 03:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDEu7O0mkPE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDEu7O0mkPE
5 March 2012 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPvS6h-5omQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPvS6h-5omQ
5 March 2012 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Elliott's link.
what is wrong with presk. free Viagra?
5 March 2012 02:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Still - I love You !
(:
(:
3 March 2012 13:46
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's post.
Have you heard about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summerhill_School ?
The book Summerhill should be pretty good according to amazon. Got hint from Tony http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yZ66jTG1NU
" However, this book is not for people who are easily offended by open-mindedness. Neill allows the students at his school to have a lot (A LOT) of freedom. Swearing, sexual activity, nudity, and smoking are just some of the extra-curricular activities that Summerhill students are allowed to participate in.
The whole idea behind Summerhill is release, allowing children to live out their natural interests, and encouraging them to find out who they really are and to be comfortable with that.
I recommend Summerhill because, well, you just have to read it. Some of it is absolutley insane, and some of it is absoultley ingenuis! /amazn "
The book Summerhill should be pretty good according to amazon. Got hint from Tony http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yZ66jTG1NU
" However, this book is not for people who are easily offended by open-mindedness. Neill allows the students at his school to have a lot (A LOT) of freedom. Swearing, sexual activity, nudity, and smoking are just some of the extra-curricular activities that Summerhill students are allowed to participate in.
The whole idea behind Summerhill is release, allowing children to live out their natural interests, and encouraging them to find out who they really are and to be comfortable with that.
I recommend Summerhill because, well, you just have to read it. Some of it is absolutley insane, and some of it is absoultley ingenuis! /amazn "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summerhill_School
29 February 2012 13:12
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's post.
Secretaria is out ;)
---
but... let's go back to dreamversity now..
(Uni - Estonian - Dream)
so are we thought by universe or by university ?
---
& from ur 'free-time', go help out some experts:
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Etymology-Meaning-Words-1474/2010/7/universe-vs-university.htm
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Latin-2145/2010/8/Original-meaning-educate.htm
---
but... let's go back to dreamversity now..
(Uni - Estonian - Dream)
so are we thought by universe or by university ?
---
& from ur 'free-time', go help out some experts:
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Etymology-Meaning-Words-1474/2010/7/universe-vs-university.htm
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Latin-2145/2010/8/Original-meaning-educate.htm
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Etymology-Meaning-Words-1474/2010/7/universe-vs-university.htm
29 February 2012 13:00
Margus Meigo commented on Anne-Mari Anderson's post.
Tubli! ;)
29 February 2012 12:42
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
Vana rahva tarkus -
Ega surm eluvõõras pole
Ega surm eluvõõras pole
29 February 2012 12:20
Margus Meigo commented on Mitakuye Oyasin's post.
In us is huge amount of energy that no one seems to care for... what's up with that?
29 February 2012 12:17
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Piraadipartei's post.
See kui sa teed filmist filmi - on piraatlus
Joonistamine on veel lubatud
Joonistamine on veel lubatud
7 February 2012 17:45
Margus Meigo commented on Fahmi King King's post.
How the new year has been coming?
27 January 2012 06:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
gruusia leiva asemel valget saia st :)
26 January 2012 07:09
Margus Meigo commented on Gildon R Turner's post.
How did this work out for you? :)
26 January 2012 07:07
Margus Meigo commented on Gildon R Turner's post.
How did this work out for you? :)
26 January 2012 07:07
Margus Meigo commented on Gildon R Turner's post.
How did this work out for you? :)
26 January 2012 07:07
Margus Meigo commented on Gildon R Turner's post.
How did this work out for you? :)
26 January 2012 07:07
Margus Meigo commented on Gildon R Turner's post.
How did this work out for you? :)
26 January 2012 07:06
Margus Meigo commented on M.G. Siegler's link.
and i have still not jet decided is that good news or not
26 January 2012 07:03
Margus Meigo commented on M.G. Siegler's link.
Mark we are not so fluent with arabic by varage i guess :P
http://translate.google.ee/translate?sl=auto&tl=et&js=n&prev=_t&hl=et&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fara.reuters.com%2Farticle%2FbusinessNews%2FidARACAE79M0BC20111023
http://translate.google.ee/translate?sl=auto&tl=et&js=n&prev=_t&hl=et&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fara.reuters.com%2Farticle%2FbusinessNews%2FidARACAE79M0BC20111023
http://translate.google.ee/translate?sl=auto&tl=et&js=n&prev=_t&hl=et&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fara.reuters.com%2Farticle%2FbusinessNews%2FidARACAE79M0BC20111023
26 January 2012 06:55
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Can we do everything when we do it at same time?
23 January 2012 14:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
From Crowley's Magick Without Tears (Ch. 81):
One passes through the veil of the exterior world (which, as in Yoga, but in another sense, becomes "unreal" by comparison as one passes beyond) one creates a subtle body (instrument is a better term) called the body of Light; this one develops and controls; it gains new powers as one progresses, usually by means of what is called "initiation:" finally, one carries on almost one's whole life in this Body of Light, and achieves in its own way the mastery of the Universe.
One passes through the veil of the exterior world (which, as in Yoga, but in another sense, becomes "unreal" by comparison as one passes beyond) one creates a subtle body (instrument is a better term) called the body of Light; this one develops and controls; it gains new powers as one progresses, usually by means of what is called "initiation:" finally, one carries on almost one's whole life in this Body of Light, and achieves in its own way the mastery of the Universe.
13 January 2012 07:32
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's post.
When things are moving and things are on place then these things that move can be distorted in video - all the frames are same on back-round as one is not moving, hes air also you can see is distorted.
& to even start to look anything like that one should have full res video, and even then with todays video editing toys it would be questionable worth of time
one should start to make up camps for meet-ups with 'them'.. but then again - what average TV grown up people and super intelligent have to talk about?
There is means to get some more interesting insight for this if you come to visit me :P
& to even start to look anything like that one should have full res video, and even then with todays video editing toys it would be questionable worth of time
one should start to make up camps for meet-ups with 'them'.. but then again - what average TV grown up people and super intelligent have to talk about?
There is means to get some more interesting insight for this if you come to visit me :P
13 January 2012 07:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
So I asked myself, "Do I love you so much
That I'm willing to let you go?"
At the tip of my tongue the answer was "Yes"
But, at the bottom of my heart I'm wondering...
Did I say that?
Did I say that?
Sometimes you know I over react
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z8-MiBydA8
Did I tell you that I loved you cause it
Would have been a matter of fact?
Did I say that?
This time I'm not letting go
Did I say that?
This time I'll have and I'll hold
Did I tell you that I loved you cause it
Would have been a matter of fact?
Did I say that?
This time I'm walking through fire
Did I say that?
This time I'll feed your desire
Did I say that?
This time I'll stand by your side
Did I say that?
This time I will be your pride
Did I say that?
This time I'm not letting go
Did I say that?
This time I'll have and I'll hold
Did I say that?
This time I'm walking through fire
Did I say that?
... So this is what it Feels like
That I'm willing to let you go?"
At the tip of my tongue the answer was "Yes"
But, at the bottom of my heart I'm wondering...
Did I say that?
Did I say that?
Sometimes you know I over react
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z8-MiBydA8
Did I tell you that I loved you cause it
Would have been a matter of fact?
Did I say that?
This time I'm not letting go
Did I say that?
This time I'll have and I'll hold
Did I tell you that I loved you cause it
Would have been a matter of fact?
Did I say that?
This time I'm walking through fire
Did I say that?
This time I'll feed your desire
Did I say that?
This time I'll stand by your side
Did I say that?
This time I will be your pride
Did I say that?
This time I'm not letting go
Did I say that?
This time I'll have and I'll hold
Did I say that?
This time I'm walking through fire
Did I say that?
... So this is what it Feels like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z8-MiBydA8
13 January 2012 05:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
There will be no worries - where Angels sing...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgIM3_RBaIs
Meet me downtown on the corner
I'll be waiting in a big yellow cab
Don't bring a suitcase
You won't need a thing
There'll be no worries
Where Angels sing
I got my ticket in my hand
Oh the price is paid in full
No man can stop me
Their words won't sting you
No dreams will haunt you
Where Angels sing
I get so weary
On this troubled road
Unlock these chains
And gently rock me home
Beyond the clouds and the rain
Where Angels sing
Where Angels sing
Where lies can't hurt me
The flesh desert me
No in or out
No loss or doubt
No living with or doing without
Where money ain't the power king
And kindness is the most precious thing
Where Angels sing
Oh, where Angels sing
Where Time means nothing
No hustle
No one rushing
No dark of night
No hate or spite
No wrong or right
No day or night
No towns or no cities
There's no pain, no pity
Where hunger is no longer
And a good man just gets stronger
Where Angels sing
Where Angels sing
Where Angels sing....
Where Angels sing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgIM3_RBaIs
Meet me downtown on the corner
I'll be waiting in a big yellow cab
Don't bring a suitcase
You won't need a thing
There'll be no worries
Where Angels sing
I got my ticket in my hand
Oh the price is paid in full
No man can stop me
Their words won't sting you
No dreams will haunt you
Where Angels sing
I get so weary
On this troubled road
Unlock these chains
And gently rock me home
Beyond the clouds and the rain
Where Angels sing
Where Angels sing
Where lies can't hurt me
The flesh desert me
No in or out
No loss or doubt
No living with or doing without
Where money ain't the power king
And kindness is the most precious thing
Where Angels sing
Oh, where Angels sing
Where Time means nothing
No hustle
No one rushing
No dark of night
No hate or spite
No wrong or right
No day or night
No towns or no cities
There's no pain, no pity
Where hunger is no longer
And a good man just gets stronger
Where Angels sing
Where Angels sing
Where Angels sing....
Where Angels sing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgIM3_RBaIs
13 January 2012 05:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
....unless i do something about t :)
13 January 2012 03:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Sometimes i feel it's not enough to just like some pearls of day, my own limitation to feel need more
13 January 2012 03:24
Margus Meigo commented on Ian Stoke's post.
How can you do it? :)
13 January 2012 03:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Bdw - this post is dedicated to my brother's thanks to who discovered the these sides of music, so early
13 January 2012 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's link.
"The next edition, DSM-5, is due for release in 2013." - well, let's hope the spiritual emergency and other important missing sections will be there also "
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/oct/15/google-ageing-research
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/oct/15/google-ageing-research
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/oct/15/google-ageing-research
13 January 2012 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's link.
So is that bad or good news?
drug users i know are by far more in touch with important issues and can say same to may Nets people also, + they had study how Googeling increases brain power
Not this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_Google_Making_Us_Stupid%3F and not the one here http://www2.canada.com/windsorstar/news/life/story.html?id=9adc0aa1-bb8c-43c8-91ef-a5d20e8d4383
the one here - http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/01/03/can-you-build-a-better-brain.html
"But what neuroscientists don’t know about the mechanisms of cognition—about what is physically different between a dumb brain and a smart one and how to make the first more like the second...."
drug users i know are by far more in touch with important issues and can say same to may Nets people also, + they had study how Googeling increases brain power
Not this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_Google_Making_Us_Stupid%3F and not the one here http://www2.canada.com/windsorstar/news/life/story.html?id=9adc0aa1-bb8c-43c8-91ef-a5d20e8d4383
the one here - http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/01/03/can-you-build-a-better-brain.html
"But what neuroscientists don’t know about the mechanisms of cognition—about what is physically different between a dumb brain and a smart one and how to make the first more like the second...."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_Google_Making_Us_Stupid%3F
13 January 2012 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on Serena Alexa Emmi's photo.
This dog was wonderful
11 January 2012 03:26
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Tantaroba's photo.
This is the place where i used one extra life :D
(remember these friends who wanted our table?)
(remember these friends who wanted our table?)
11 January 2012 03:14
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
Ingel :)
11 January 2012 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
/ It's my granddaughters daughter - Kadri's Angel :)
- i just noticed how cute i am
- i just noticed how cute i am
11 January 2012 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
Now i know - "To much words"
answer was all around us
literally
Thanks darling :D
answer was all around us
literally
Thanks darling :D
11 January 2012 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Now SHUT UP AND ENJOY THE MUSIC
(:w
(:w
10 January 2012 11:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In the end, you can only Belive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffJ3QVrRcno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffJ3QVrRcno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffJ3QVrRcno
10 January 2012 11:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXnxDVX9xww
Layed off few years ago mate :)
Layed off few years ago mate :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXnxDVX9xww
10 January 2012 11:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I am glad to help :=)
10 January 2012 09:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Armastusega! :)
9 January 2012 07:45
Margus Meigo commented on Solstrale DaniDuarte's link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn06FQbIRGU
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0223897/ :)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0223897/ :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn06FQbIRGU
9 January 2012 07:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
And really, no need to make plan - start today!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn06FQbIRGU
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0223897/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn06FQbIRGU
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0223897/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn06FQbIRGU
9 January 2012 07:24
Margus Meigo commented on Solstrale DaniDuarte's link.
This is so nice, thanks for this - some love before will hide my self under the blanket from cold :)
9 January 2012 06:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
And yes, movie is not so great to look as just entertainment (not the best acting and whole picture) but as philosophical side kick with some parts in it will give many needed parts to think about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8kCOsfM15c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8kCOsfM15c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8kCOsfM15c
9 January 2012 05:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Project Blue Beam is a conspiracy theory that claims that NASA is attempting to implement a New Age religion with the Antichrist at its head and start a New World Order, via a technologically-simulated Second Coming.
The allegations were contained in an audio presentation in 1994 by Quebecois journalist turned conspiracy theorist Serge Monast and later published in his book Project Blue Beam (NASA). Proponents of the theory allege that Monast and another, unnamed, journalist, who both died of heart attacks in 1996, were in fact assassinated. In addition, the Canadian government allegedly kidnapped Monast's daughter in an effort to dissuade him from investigating Project Blue Beam.[1]
The project was apparently supposed to be implemented in 1983...
(some parts of this are related to movie and the long interview posted before)
http://www.whale.to/c/serge_monast_talk.html
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectbluebeam25jul05.shtml
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/bluebeam.htm
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Beam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serge_Monast#Publications
In the 1970s and 1980s, Monast was a Québécois investigative journalist, poet and essayist. He was an active member of the Social Credit Party of Canada.
He died of a heart attack in his home in December 1996, at age 51, the day after being arrested and spending a night in jail.
In the early 1990s, he started writing on the theme of the New World Order and conspiracies hatched by secret societies, being particularly inspired by the works of William Guy Carr.
He founded the International Free Press Agenc
By 1995 and 1996, Monast said he was being hunted by the police and authorities for involvement in "networks of prohibited information." He had homeschooled his two children, who were then taken away and made wards of the state in September 1996 so that they would receive a public education. His followers claim his death was suspicious, suggesting he was assassinated by "psychotronic weapons" to keep from continuing his investigations, and that the Mel Gibson character in the 1997 film Conspiracy Theory was modeled on him.
Wikeda had good outline and full article about it but it seems to be gone now, also from webarhives, will post link when it comes up
But to say in the end of this,
What should people think if they see this kind of text?
"How can i help, with this project" maybe?
"Is it bad for current world - looking direction where are we heading?"
"Should i just take a county house and go back to normal life and enjoy the (laser?) show?"
The allegations were contained in an audio presentation in 1994 by Quebecois journalist turned conspiracy theorist Serge Monast and later published in his book Project Blue Beam (NASA). Proponents of the theory allege that Monast and another, unnamed, journalist, who both died of heart attacks in 1996, were in fact assassinated. In addition, the Canadian government allegedly kidnapped Monast's daughter in an effort to dissuade him from investigating Project Blue Beam.[1]
The project was apparently supposed to be implemented in 1983...
(some parts of this are related to movie and the long interview posted before)
http://www.whale.to/c/serge_monast_talk.html
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectbluebeam25jul05.shtml
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/bluebeam.htm
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Beam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serge_Monast#Publications
In the 1970s and 1980s, Monast was a Québécois investigative journalist, poet and essayist. He was an active member of the Social Credit Party of Canada.
He died of a heart attack in his home in December 1996, at age 51, the day after being arrested and spending a night in jail.
In the early 1990s, he started writing on the theme of the New World Order and conspiracies hatched by secret societies, being particularly inspired by the works of William Guy Carr.
He founded the International Free Press Agenc
By 1995 and 1996, Monast said he was being hunted by the police and authorities for involvement in "networks of prohibited information." He had homeschooled his two children, who were then taken away and made wards of the state in September 1996 so that they would receive a public education. His followers claim his death was suspicious, suggesting he was assassinated by "psychotronic weapons" to keep from continuing his investigations, and that the Mel Gibson character in the 1997 film Conspiracy Theory was modeled on him.
Wikeda had good outline and full article about it but it seems to be gone now, also from webarhives, will post link when it comes up
But to say in the end of this,
What should people think if they see this kind of text?
"How can i help, with this project" maybe?
"Is it bad for current world - looking direction where are we heading?"
"Should i just take a county house and go back to normal life and enjoy the (laser?) show?"
9 January 2012 05:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuV8BF6UcEM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuV8BF6UcEM
9 January 2012 04:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pr6LEAL2aE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pr6LEAL2aE
9 January 2012 04:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNphJTpdfwA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNphJTpdfwA
9 January 2012 04:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyPl-Z97t_4 This video did not enable in controls - let's try more :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyPl-Z97t_4
9 January 2012 04:51
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Mis sellest rvate: https://www.facebook.com/events/192102514215905/ ?
8 January 2012 14:36
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Siis on aeg midag uut proovida, muidu igav
(eriti kui inimesed otsa hakkavad saama)
Kuid jah... siin maal pidi olema kriis node inimeste osas
(eriti kui inimesed otsa hakkavad saama)
Kuid jah... siin maal pidi olema kriis node inimeste osas
8 January 2012 14:25
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
what you mean by 'disco sucks'?
7 January 2012 03:46
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
ups, vale link enne - seda mõtlesn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-_NMuCPhQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-_NMuCPhQ
7 January 2012 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on Jesclyn Low's post.
take look at others also from hes channel in yt :p
7 January 2012 03:38
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
neid korjasd talve varuks v http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VukEKiqo_9I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VukEKiqo_9I
7 January 2012 03:36
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
irw
7 January 2012 03:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
An Iron Maiden fan became a Christian after McBrain shared his testimony at a church sponsored coffee house. "The way the Holy Spirit touched that room that night was immense," McBrain said. "I've never felt that way, before or since.
Founding bass player Steve Harris seems to be Christian as well and has written many new songs for the band portraying God in positive light. The 2006 album "A Matter of Life and Death" has many uplifting songs about the purpose of life and finding Jesus Christ. The song "For the Greater Good of God,"
Cross Rhythms editor Tony Cummings commented, "It's wonderful news about the conversion of Nicko McBrain, but also somewhat ironic. Back in the '80s and '90s all these books from evangelicals were appearing denouncing the music of heavy rock bands like Iron Maiden, Anthrax and Megadeth as 'satanic.' Now in the last couple of years we've seen Iron Maiden's Nicko McBrain, Anthrax's Daniel Spitz and Megadeth's Dave Mustane and Ellefson all become Christians! Thankfully, some Christians were praying rather than playing the Pharisee."
Founding bass player Steve Harris seems to be Christian as well and has written many new songs for the band portraying God in positive light. The 2006 album "A Matter of Life and Death" has many uplifting songs about the purpose of life and finding Jesus Christ. The song "For the Greater Good of God,"
Cross Rhythms editor Tony Cummings commented, "It's wonderful news about the conversion of Nicko McBrain, but also somewhat ironic. Back in the '80s and '90s all these books from evangelicals were appearing denouncing the music of heavy rock bands like Iron Maiden, Anthrax and Megadeth as 'satanic.' Now in the last couple of years we've seen Iron Maiden's Nicko McBrain, Anthrax's Daniel Spitz and Megadeth's Dave Mustane and Ellefson all become Christians! Thankfully, some Christians were praying rather than playing the Pharisee."
3 January 2012 12:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Iron Maiden's distinct logo has adorned all of the band's releases since their debut; the typeface originates with Vic Fair's poster design for 1976 science fiction film, The Man Who Fell To Earth (film about an extraterrestrial who crash lands on Earth seeking a way to ship water to his planet, which is suffering from a severe drought.[1] The film maintains a strong cult following for its use of surreal imagery and its performances by David Bowie) , although Steve Harris claims that he designed it himself, utilising his abilities as an architectural draughtsman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBG0aqE9g5E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBG0aqE9g5E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBG0aqE9g5E
3 January 2012 12:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Singer Bruce Dickinson, who typically works in collaboration with guitarist Adrian Smith, has an operatic vocal style, inspired by Arthur Brown, Peter Hammill, Ian Anderson and Ian Gillan, and is often considered to be one of the best heavy metal vocalists of all time. Although only receiving one writing credit on the Dance of Death album, Harris often relies on drummer Nicko McBrain in developing songs, with Adrian Smith commenting, "Steve loves playing with him. [They] used to work for hours going over these bass and drum patterns."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_MI6Qqs9tw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_MI6Qqs9tw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_MI6Qqs9tw
3 January 2012 12:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The band's guitarists, Dave Murray, Adrian Smith and Janick Gers, each have their own individual influences and playing style. Dave Murray is known for his legato technique which, he claims, "evolved naturally. I'd heard Jimi Hendrix using legato when I was growing up, and I liked that style of playing."Stating that he "was inspired by blues rock rather than metal," Adrian Smith was influenced by Johnny Winter and Pat Travers, leading to him becoming a "melodic player." Janick Gers, on the hand, prefers a more improvised style, largely inspired by Ritchie Blackmore, which he claims is in contrast to Smith's "rhythmic" sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3Uus_r90Ts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3Uus_r90Ts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3Uus_r90Ts
3 January 2012 12:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Somewhere Back in Time World Tour & Flight 666 (2007–2009)
In 2008, they embarked on the most challenging and adventurous tour of their career...
Mumbai, India
Overall, the tour reportedly had an attendance of over two million people worldwide over both years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPGj6kNFYxU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUGB7bYBlq8
1. Aces High 00:52
2. Two Minutes To Midnight 05:38
3. Revelations 11:39
4. The Trooper 18:38
5. Wasted Years 22:53
7. The Number Of The Beast 29:16
8. Can I Play With Madness 34:19
9. Rime Of The Ancient Mariner 38:02
10. Poverslave 51:51
11. Heaven Can Wait 59:25
12. Run To The Hills 1:06:56
13. Fear Of The Dark 1:11:06
14. Iron Maiden 1:18:45
15. Moonchild 01:24:18
16. The Clairvoyant 1:30:21
17. Hallowed By Thy Name 1:35:00
In 2008, they embarked on the most challenging and adventurous tour of their career...
Mumbai, India
Overall, the tour reportedly had an attendance of over two million people worldwide over both years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPGj6kNFYxU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUGB7bYBlq8
1. Aces High 00:52
2. Two Minutes To Midnight 05:38
3. Revelations 11:39
4. The Trooper 18:38
5. Wasted Years 22:53
7. The Number Of The Beast 29:16
8. Can I Play With Madness 34:19
9. Rime Of The Ancient Mariner 38:02
10. Poverslave 51:51
11. Heaven Can Wait 59:25
12. Run To The Hills 1:06:56
13. Fear Of The Dark 1:11:06
14. Iron Maiden 1:18:45
15. Moonchild 01:24:18
16. The Clairvoyant 1:30:21
17. Hallowed By Thy Name 1:35:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPGj6kNFYxU
3 January 2012 11:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Steve Harris, Iron Maiden's bassist and primary songwriter,has stated that his influences include Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin,The Who,Uriah Heep, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Yes, Jethro Tull,Thin Lizzy, UFO and Wishbone Ash.
In 2010 Harris stated, "I think if anyone wants to understand Maiden’s early thing, in particular the harmony guitars, all they have to do is listen to Wishbone Ash’s Argus album
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZPGQkrUHU4&feature=related
In 2010 Harris stated, "I think if anyone wants to understand Maiden’s early thing, in particular the harmony guitars, all they have to do is listen to Wishbone Ash’s Argus album
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZPGQkrUHU4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZPGQkrUHU4
3 January 2012 11:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
2002
Iron Maden starts writing new material for what will become their 13th studio album "Dance of Death"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdtIG99czZQ
Iron Maden starts writing new material for what will become their 13th studio album "Dance of Death"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdtIG99czZQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdtIG99czZQ
3 January 2012 11:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
1987 - 12 Wasted Years Documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMvukzinvGA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMvukzinvGA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMvukzinvGA
3 January 2012 11:32
Margus Meigo commented on Jesclyn Low's post.
Md Robeto indeed mate :)
I'm at Estonia right now but when u come from uk, do not forget to bring some Good Old-Fashioned E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VukEKiqo_9I & E'l http://vimeo.com/3599680 :P
I'm at Estonia right now but when u come from uk, do not forget to bring some Good Old-Fashioned E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VukEKiqo_9I & E'l http://vimeo.com/3599680 :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VukEKiqo_9I
3 January 2012 10:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
" Life is whatever you think it is
Yo, what you think this is? "
" And yeah, it's no fun waiting for the fall
And there'll be no more waiting for you all
And there'll be one more chance for the truth "
" So
Let's lose our clothes like Adam Eve
Back to the basics
Step out the matrix
Step out your cool
Baby, get on my spaceship
I seen her face lit
She seen a sign like a Mason "
" Uh, yeah it's all in your mind baby
You gotta do what you feel, like a blind lady
You gotta spread your wings and just fly, baby
It feel like you're reborn?
That's my baby
She said she feel it in her soul like a vibrator
I got some things for your thoughts we can try later "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl8-Ge_SErg
Full lyrics: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/awolnation/killyourheroes.html
Yo, what you think this is? "
" And yeah, it's no fun waiting for the fall
And there'll be no more waiting for you all
And there'll be one more chance for the truth "
" So
Let's lose our clothes like Adam Eve
Back to the basics
Step out the matrix
Step out your cool
Baby, get on my spaceship
I seen her face lit
She seen a sign like a Mason "
" Uh, yeah it's all in your mind baby
You gotta do what you feel, like a blind lady
You gotta spread your wings and just fly, baby
It feel like you're reborn?
That's my baby
She said she feel it in her soul like a vibrator
I got some things for your thoughts we can try later "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl8-Ge_SErg
Full lyrics: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/awolnation/killyourheroes.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl8-Ge_SErg
3 January 2012 09:46
Margus Meigo commented on Jesclyn Low's post.
And do not forget to bring back some Smart drugs:P
3 January 2012 08:36
Margus Meigo commented on Jesclyn Low's post.
hhaa, i read from the comment that M'sia is some kind of drug Felystee wanted to bring back :D
So what drugs are we talking about? Smart drugs, downers, uppers ?
So what drugs are we talking about? Smart drugs, downers, uppers ?
2 January 2012 17:57
Margus Meigo commented on Jesclyn Low's post.
What is m'sia ?
2 January 2012 16:04
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Kamaluga!
1 January 2012 18:23
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's link.
Wold love to work as street Light Worker, wold have some great comments to people on streets :P
1 January 2012 16:53
Margus Meigo commented on Sab Crapkin's link.
Great forum, keep it up .)
1 January 2012 16:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(: Huvitav .... mis mulle to aeg deprekat tegi?
1 January 2012 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(Mu 566 number on praegu puhkses koos internetiga, sõnumeid saan vastu võtta 536 00 550 - pane nimi alla)
(: Hyva vahvat jätku
(: Hyva vahvat jätku
31 December 2011 17:15
Margus Meigo commented on Joto Laskov's link.
How have you been bdw? Any new cow's on The Road ?
31 December 2011 02:21
Margus Meigo commented on Joto Laskov's link.
(:, share it with https://www.facebook.com/pages/Estonia/13485602046?ref=ts page also :)
facebook.com
Estonia
31 December 2011 02:20
Margus Meigo commented on Eric Schmidt's post.
John, will hope i can say this about my (ex soviet) part of Europe in my life time :)
In what countries was you in Eric?
In what countries was you in Eric?
31 December 2011 02:10
Margus Meigo commented on Joichi Ito's post.
(: Always good to pack some extra passports while traveling
31 December 2011 01:36
Margus Meigo commented on Nicola Canestrari's link.
This is the most lovable post to me in whole internets in these days
You are extranotordinary
This is a fact, also :)
You are extranotordinary
This is a fact, also :)
30 December 2011 23:17
Margus Meigo commented on Nicola Canestrari's link.
video is blocked on my country, seems - this copy right people suffer with severe lack of seeing the bigger picture.
Must finish up this crooked, agged business of coprytighting minds,
must,
just,
burn it!
Must finish up this crooked, agged business of coprytighting minds,
must,
just,
burn it!
30 December 2011 23:12
Margus Meigo commented on Nicola Canestrari's link.
This is the best Nico, unforgettable :P
30 December 2011 23:08
Margus Meigo commented on Nicola Canestrari's link.
Get some spiritual perception for your inner draggon, there is love - in where fire is
30 December 2011 23:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/veto-sopa-bill-and-any-other-future-bills-threaten-diminish-free-flow-information/g3W1BscR
" the more freely information flows; the stronger that society becomes" President Obama http://tiny.cc/rh5b1 "
" the more freely information flows; the stronger that society becomes" President Obama http://tiny.cc/rh5b1 "
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/veto-sopa-bill-and-any-other-future-bills-threaten-diminish-free-flow-information/g3W1BscR
19 December 2011 02:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://youtu.be/SvVO6Y-3CM8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvVO6Y-3CM8
19 December 2011 01:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Your Mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP5yA3RwzOk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP5yA3RwzOk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP5yA3RwzOk
19 December 2011 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
Doug - what makes commenter so different when thoughts like that are in head?
19 December 2011 00:13
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
I was wondering, are sadistic people more human then robotic people? and is 'more human' positive term looking in current situations ?
Questions from childhood..
Questions from childhood..
18 December 2011 23:53
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
Are we ever sharing anything lovely also, like how did we enjoy our day in woods... or wonderful working helping ideas we have to fix the situation not just pay attention to all the hard situations, all the time... just for change
there is human behind this account right?
there is human behind this account right?
18 December 2011 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
We were so young
but life is a murderer
we stayed very long
but light is a vanishing hope
I had in mind
to conquer the world by your side
Conducts very strange lately
cause heaven's in danger for you and the rest
It's all true if we die I lose.
I had in mind
to conquer the world by your side.
___
Russian Red was THE indie spontaneous phenomenon in Spain in 2008 & 2009 and has become one of Spain´s biggest artists in the past years; an extremely rare story of success in Spain for an artist that plays folk-pop-rock and composes and sings in English.
http://youtu.be/9znJMAqOpA0
http://www.alwaysontherun.net/russianred.htm
but life is a murderer
we stayed very long
but light is a vanishing hope
I had in mind
to conquer the world by your side
Conducts very strange lately
cause heaven's in danger for you and the rest
It's all true if we die I lose.
I had in mind
to conquer the world by your side.
___
Russian Red was THE indie spontaneous phenomenon in Spain in 2008 & 2009 and has become one of Spain´s biggest artists in the past years; an extremely rare story of success in Spain for an artist that plays folk-pop-rock and composes and sings in English.
http://youtu.be/9znJMAqOpA0
http://www.alwaysontherun.net/russianred.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9znJMAqOpA0
18 December 2011 23:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I'm falling, I'm falling on the bed
that I got ready in my head.
How many times been to places, and places came to me?
Now by the corner of my eye I'm checking the mirrors upside down
And I thought, that timing is crucial in the next step. Timing is crucial.
Don't believe the lies I said, I was just forcing myself
'cause timing was crucial in the next step, timing is crucial.
Now by the corner of my eye I'm checking the mirrors upside
but they don't seem to give reflections of what there is behind.
Timing is crucial.
Don't believe the lies I said, I was just forcing myself
'cause timing was crucial in the next step, timing is crucial.
Don't forget the lies I said, I was just trying to help ourselves
'cause timing had been crucial from the very first step.
Timing is crucial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znz6r5W_mXk
that I got ready in my head.
How many times been to places, and places came to me?
Now by the corner of my eye I'm checking the mirrors upside down
And I thought, that timing is crucial in the next step. Timing is crucial.
Don't believe the lies I said, I was just forcing myself
'cause timing was crucial in the next step, timing is crucial.
Now by the corner of my eye I'm checking the mirrors upside
but they don't seem to give reflections of what there is behind.
Timing is crucial.
Don't believe the lies I said, I was just forcing myself
'cause timing was crucial in the next step, timing is crucial.
Don't forget the lies I said, I was just trying to help ourselves
'cause timing had been crucial from the very first step.
Timing is crucial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znz6r5W_mXk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znz6r5W_mXk
18 December 2011 23:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.facebook.com/The.Russian.Federation
(interesting & situation videos)
(interesting & situation videos)
facebook.com
Росси́я - Российская Федерация - Russia
18 December 2011 23:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
et süsteem on terav turvavöö
18 December 2011 16:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
momendil
peab vähemalt ka sellele varjandile mõtlema
peab vähemalt ka sellele varjandile mõtlema
18 December 2011 14:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kuigi robotid on palju inimlikumad on teise poole esindajad ikkagi inimesed ja ilma teise pooleta poleks ka esimest
18 December 2011 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Learn how to pull yourself away from your work," he taught. "Save the
nerves for when you need them. Professionalism, besides other things, is an
ability to consciously bring yourself to a state of highest excitement.
There, connecting with your subconscious, you can iterate the different
variants and alternatives with great speed."
"By the way", he got excited "how na
/ continnue from web, end of machine copy'ng:) /
nerves for when you need them. Professionalism, besides other things, is an
ability to consciously bring yourself to a state of highest excitement.
There, connecting with your subconscious, you can iterate the different
variants and alternatives with great speed."
"By the way", he got excited "how na
/ continnue from web, end of machine copy'ng:) /
18 December 2011 09:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Read less, re-read more," he said. "Four hundred books is quite enough
for a professional. When the classics reveal to you the human weakness and
sinfulness of the authors then you can really begin to learn from them.
When reading, try to improve it in your mind. Read slowly, very slowly.
Taste and savor every phrase with the author's eyes. Only then will you be
able to understand what it contains.
for a professional. When the classics reveal to you the human weakness and
sinfulness of the authors then you can really begin to learn from them.
When reading, try to improve it in your mind. Read slowly, very slowly.
Taste and savor every phrase with the author's eyes. Only then will you be
able to understand what it contains.
18 December 2011 09:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Eleventh," said coldly my Lucifer. "When you decide that you can't
write any better, write three more stories. After that, you can hang
yourself or go teach high school."
It all ended in May - a good month for either a beginning or an end for
any undertaking.
"Young man", he addressed me formally. "Have you any money?"
I haven't had money in a long time. I have become a lumpenproletariat.
"I don't care. Steal it," he advised. "Come back in an hour. Bring
write any better, write three more stories. After that, you can hang
yourself or go teach high school."
It all ended in May - a good month for either a beginning or an end for
any undertaking.
"Young man", he addressed me formally. "Have you any money?"
I haven't had money in a long time. I have become a lumpenproletariat.
"I don't care. Steal it," he advised. "Come back in an hour. Bring
18 December 2011 09:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Sixth. No repeated words. Look for synonyms; find something to replace
a repeated word. Can you read in French? Oh, pardon, I forgot what gardens
you are a fruit of. Read "Madame Bovarie" translated by Rommov! A hundred
times! Start anywhere in the book! When you can imitate that, we will go
on."
In his voice, for the first time, I heard leniency of a high priest
towards a wet puppy on the steps of the shrine.
a repeated word. Can you read in French? Oh, pardon, I forgot what gardens
you are a fruit of. Read "Madame Bovarie" translated by Rommov! A hundred
times! Start anywhere in the book! When you can imitate that, we will go
on."
In his voice, for the first time, I heard leniency of a high priest
towards a wet puppy on the steps of the shrine.
18 December 2011 09:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
4th *
18 December 2011 08:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
is Worth Way the way, also?
"Bodhisattva (bodhi = enlightenment + sattva = being) is a Sanskrit word which can be interpreted in two ways:
1) Enlightener of Sentient Beings. The Bodhisattva takes the enlightenment that he has been certified as having attained, the wisdom that he has uncovered, and uses that enlightened wisdom to enlighten all other sentient beings.
2) An Enlightened Sentient Being. The Bodhisattva is also a sentient being, but he is one who has become enlightened.
Together these two meanings show that a Bodhisattva is an enlightened sentient being who enlightens other beings." (HD 13)
"A Bodhisattva . . . is also called 'a living being with a great mind attuned to the Way.' No matter how badly people may act towards him, he doesn't hold it against them. He Absolutely never becomes irritated, Never loses his temper. . . ." (SS I 107)
Some people claim they are Bodhisattvas, although they are not. Some people who are Bodhisattvas will not admit it. You see, it is very strange: those who are not Bodhisattvas say they are, while those who are don't say so. Ultimately, whether you say so or not, those who aren't, aren't, and those who are, are. There is no need to say so.
Bodhisattvas don't put ads in the newspapers saying, 'Do you recognize me? I am a Bodhisattva.'" (HS 96)
---
The Venerable Shariputra Tries to Cultivate the Path of the Bodhisattva:
"..."The man said, 'Really? Of course that would be wonderful! Can you really give up your eye to cure my mother's illness?'..."
http://www.advite.com/fourholymountains.htm
"Bodhisattva (bodhi = enlightenment + sattva = being) is a Sanskrit word which can be interpreted in two ways:
1) Enlightener of Sentient Beings. The Bodhisattva takes the enlightenment that he has been certified as having attained, the wisdom that he has uncovered, and uses that enlightened wisdom to enlighten all other sentient beings.
2) An Enlightened Sentient Being. The Bodhisattva is also a sentient being, but he is one who has become enlightened.
Together these two meanings show that a Bodhisattva is an enlightened sentient being who enlightens other beings." (HD 13)
"A Bodhisattva . . . is also called 'a living being with a great mind attuned to the Way.' No matter how badly people may act towards him, he doesn't hold it against them. He Absolutely never becomes irritated, Never loses his temper. . . ." (SS I 107)
Some people claim they are Bodhisattvas, although they are not. Some people who are Bodhisattvas will not admit it. You see, it is very strange: those who are not Bodhisattvas say they are, while those who are don't say so. Ultimately, whether you say so or not, those who aren't, aren't, and those who are, are. There is no need to say so.
Bodhisattvas don't put ads in the newspapers saying, 'Do you recognize me? I am a Bodhisattva.'" (HS 96)
---
The Venerable Shariputra Tries to Cultivate the Path of the Bodhisattva:
"..."The man said, 'Really? Of course that would be wonderful! Can you really give up your eye to cure my mother's illness?'..."
http://www.advite.com/fourholymountains.htm
http://www.advite.com/fourholymountains.htm
18 December 2011 08:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Third. Learn to write long. Think of a size of a story, and then write
three times that much. Come up with non-existent, but possible details. The
more, the better. Fantasize. Be naughty.
Fourth. Pull out all the stops and lie. Fabricate from the beginning to
the end; if a little truth comes through, put it in, as well. Believe that
it is just as plausible as what you experienced. You know your fantasies
just as good as your reality."
With theatrical disgust
three times that much. Come up with non-existent, but possible details. The
more, the better. Fantasize. Be naughty.
Fourth. Pull out all the stops and lie. Fabricate from the beginning to
the end; if a little truth comes through, put it in, as well. Believe that
it is just as plausible as what you experienced. You know your fantasies
just as good as your reality."
With theatrical disgust
18 December 2011 08:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"First. Learn to write light, free and relaxed - just the way you talk.
Don't strain and work it to death. Tell what's on your mind. Ordinary spoken
tale - only on paper and without contractions.
Second. Write about something you know, something you've seen and lived
through. More definite, more detailed, more extensive.
Don't strain and work it to death. Tell what's on your mind. Ordinary spoken
tale - only on paper and without contractions.
Second. Write about something you know, something you've seen and lived
through. More definite, more detailed, more extensive.
18 December 2011 08:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You are young; your soul, even if
sensitive, is dim and undeveloped; you won't understand me. You will
understand later."
Drinking the wine, I was getting high. Intermittently, he was a sage
and an empty talker. The logic of my perception was tearing to pieces,
unable to keep up with the swift stream of strengthening essence of his
thoughts.
"The public always applauds fakes professionally made to its demand.
Masterpieces? It can't tell them from meager replicas. Its vision is
two-dimensional
sensitive, is dim and undeveloped; you won't understand me. You will
understand later."
Drinking the wine, I was getting high. Intermittently, he was a sage
and an empty talker. The logic of my perception was tearing to pieces,
unable to keep up with the swift stream of strengthening essence of his
thoughts.
"The public always applauds fakes professionally made to its demand.
Masterpieces? It can't tell them from meager replicas. Its vision is
two-dimensional
18 December 2011 08:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Art, my boy," he was getting drunker and more resolved, "is learning
about the world. That's all. Never mind that with more wisdom comes more
sadness. What, you haven't read Ecclesiastes? What a gray raincoat... Gray
rat on the steamship of the modern progress... Spiritual experience of
mankind - that's what art is.
about the world. That's all. Never mind that with more wisdom comes more
sadness. What, you haven't read Ecclesiastes? What a gray raincoat... Gray
rat on the steamship of the modern progress... Spiritual experience of
mankind - that's what art is.
18 December 2011 07:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
That's why you should never associate with people who ask: "Why are you
writing about this?" Hinting that you should write in some intellectually
balanced proportion, pursuing some goals familiar to them. Those people are
dull, dishonest and ignorant. What do you know about dipoles? What about
prana? About Yoga? Don't waste your energy and your life-force by being
around idle people and idiots."
writing about this?" Hinting that you should write in some intellectually
balanced proportion, pursuing some goals familiar to them. Those people are
dull, dishonest and ignorant. What do you know about dipoles? What about
prana? About Yoga? Don't waste your energy and your life-force by being
around idle people and idiots."
18 December 2011 07:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Don't be afraid of the morals. Be afraid of distorting the picture.
Because with the slightest departure from the truth you will see - and
describe - not the three-dimensional picture of the world, but only a
two-dimensional one, and even of that just a drop. And distorted. A
reflection on this glass, this artificial screen of an ignorant and obliging
human brain.
Because with the slightest departure from the truth you will see - and
describe - not the three-dimensional picture of the world, but only a
two-dimensional one, and even of that just a drop. And distorted. A
reflection on this glass, this artificial screen of an ignorant and obliging
human brain.
18 December 2011 07:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But there is only one point from where that picture can be seen
undistorted, in harmonic balance with all its parts. That point is truth.
The point of enlightenment is absolute truth, without the need for
judgments.
undistorted, in harmonic balance with all its parts. That point is truth.
The point of enlightenment is absolute truth, without the need for
judgments.
18 December 2011 07:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Without honesty there is no knowledge. To be dishonest is to close your eyes to half of this life."
18 December 2011 07:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
is finger was a barrel in a firing squad aiming for the bridge of my nose.
I pressed my back into the chair and sweated.
"These are words from the primer.
You are ignorant, but I don't fault you for that.
You should have known this at seventeen, even if you couldn't understand it. But you are twenty four!
What were you doing in that college of yours, you feeble-minded amateur?
I pressed my back into the chair and sweated.
"These are words from the primer.
You are ignorant, but I don't fault you for that.
You should have known this at seventeen, even if you couldn't understand it. But you are twenty four!
What were you doing in that college of yours, you feeble-minded amateur?
18 December 2011 07:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Then, you will understand that every man possesses everything. All the feelings and motives, the sacred and the evil."
18 December 2011 07:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"You must be completely aware of your own motives. Your true feelings. Don't be afraid to see a monster in yourself. Be afraid of being a monster, and not knowing it. And don't think that others are better than you. They're just like you! Don't be deluded and don't be offended.
18 December 2011 07:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mihhail Veller - Guru
"Your ignorance is boundless, and not even amusing..."
This was the first sentence I heard from him - the slide-tackle to my
fate that forever changed its course.
But, to hell with the intimate details.
Everything I am, I owe to him. Everything.
It is too late now to know who he really was. He liked being mystical.
Very much.
http://lib.ru/WELLER/r_teacher_engl.txt
http://lib.ru/WELLER/teacher.txt
"Ühesõiduhobu"
"Nevski prospekti legendid"
"Nulltund"
"Legendid 2"
"Your ignorance is boundless, and not even amusing..."
This was the first sentence I heard from him - the slide-tackle to my
fate that forever changed its course.
But, to hell with the intimate details.
Everything I am, I owe to him. Everything.
It is too late now to know who he really was. He liked being mystical.
Very much.
http://lib.ru/WELLER/r_teacher_engl.txt
http://lib.ru/WELLER/teacher.txt
"Ühesõiduhobu"
"Nevski prospekti legendid"
"Nulltund"
"Legendid 2"
http://www.lib.ru/WELLER/r_teacher_engl.txt
18 December 2011 07:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ja miks me üleüldse ise nii vähe süüa teeme?
18 December 2011 05:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
st et miks me ise gruusia leiva koostisega saia ei võiks siis teha, kas ei saa? See palju parem ju
18 December 2011 05:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
*ilma seeta, ses mõttes et ilma kasutamata sõna "see" seal nii mitu korda kui on seda kirjaliselt võimalik kasutada, need nagu keelt hävitavad ja inimesi teise suunda lükkavad #keeleviirused
18 December 2011 04:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kes midagi tõeliselt vahvat kokku panevad, nende enda generatsioonist ees.
Sest nad saavad aru, kes on generatsioonist ees, on tuleviku juhtimise osas ees ja vanad kalad teavad, kes on, (ilma seeta)ei juhi tegelt enam.
Sest nad saavad aru, kes on generatsioonist ees, on tuleviku juhtimise osas ees ja vanad kalad teavad, kes on, (ilma seeta)ei juhi tegelt enam.
18 December 2011 04:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kairi - ei tea ette, igaks juhuks valmistun :P
17 December 2011 09:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
You are right.. but in other hand i see all these possibilties and i think often - is all this crises illusion or is it real compared with the possibilties what we can do, with co-operation
17 December 2011 09:23
Margus Meigo commented on Zack G Covell's post.
Gov can do it with ease if they use right tools :)
17 December 2011 09:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
No but really, is this for real? Anyone knows how it overcomes this law that is talked about?
17 December 2011 03:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
arrrgh, another popup
16 December 2011 13:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
It even works well just from cd with no install :)
15 December 2011 21:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Yes & as they say, if it works, then stay with it :)
But there is still room to go where it needs to be. If it would be so far we would have heard about it
But there is still room to go where it needs to be. If it would be so far we would have heard about it
15 December 2011 19:23
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Andersen's post.
Köögist rääkides, katus lasi läbi jälle... peab vihma varju ja kummikutega ringi käima hakkama vist:p
15 December 2011 10:21
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Andersen's post.
kes see laulab köögis?
15 December 2011 10:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Look at all years top content, it's enlightening :)
15 December 2011 07:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/11/the-unbelievable-and-impossible-photos-of-li-wei/
http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/11/the-unbelievable-and-impossible-photos-of-li-wei/
15 December 2011 06:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Siin, ehk siis siin Eestis
,ka
,ka
15 December 2011 05:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
jep, i specially like this old comfortable windows feeling about more faster daily updates that most users should know if they are good to add or not
15 December 2011 05:51
Margus Meigo commented on Vladimir Trofimovich's photo.
Who is the smart looking guy?
15 December 2011 05:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbQeIBbffrY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbQeIBbffrY
14 December 2011 10:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSBBx6ZAciU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSBBx6ZAciU
14 December 2011 10:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vII-GxsrR2c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vII-GxsrR2c
14 December 2011 08:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk4UKD00aOo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk4UKD00aOo
14 December 2011 08:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I will give you a link with in umm.. 15 minutes, but it's really apstract, who knows, maybe you are insane enought to actually see it as i do :D
14 December 2011 07:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I have it on seperate page but my posts are also party relatet to it, but hey as they say.. do not yahoo to early
14 December 2011 07:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Found kind of solution to fitt all my ideas in to one self replicating & evolving system
14 December 2011 07:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I am actually wrting post about it, well, as much i can do with my english.
14 December 2011 07:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Is is one eco sett you have there, things like that can be used well on Life Manual's :)
14 December 2011 07:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
OML, what a list
Todays WOTD (Word Of The Day) will be WOTAM (Waste Of Time And Money) once you have reach end to this list...
http://www.netlingo.com/acronyms.php
Other great place to see more far away new word meanings is http://www.urbandictionary.com (6,2 million definitions since 1999)
Reply All Rage
"The rage one feels when people reply all to emails instead of replying directly to the relevant parties.
Jeremy was struck by Reply All Rage when the 3rd person he didn't know hit "Reply All" and spammed him with pointless and stupid comments in response to a group invite to a friends party."
just random pick: AOL (one out of 142 )
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=AOL
"A really crappy ISP. This 'lawyer' who is trying to sue urbandictionary is just a stupid idiot who doesn't realize that this is a site where anyone can post their definition, and a lawsuit against it would abridge free speech.
Read the first amendment, you bozo!"
Todays WOTD (Word Of The Day) will be WOTAM (Waste Of Time And Money) once you have reach end to this list...
http://www.netlingo.com/acronyms.php
Other great place to see more far away new word meanings is http://www.urbandictionary.com (6,2 million definitions since 1999)
Reply All Rage
"The rage one feels when people reply all to emails instead of replying directly to the relevant parties.
Jeremy was struck by Reply All Rage when the 3rd person he didn't know hit "Reply All" and spammed him with pointless and stupid comments in response to a group invite to a friends party."
just random pick: AOL (one out of 142 )
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=AOL
"A really crappy ISP. This 'lawyer' who is trying to sue urbandictionary is just a stupid idiot who doesn't realize that this is a site where anyone can post their definition, and a lawsuit against it would abridge free speech.
Read the first amendment, you bozo!"
14 December 2011 03:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Is it so weird?
14 December 2011 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(do NOT click if you want to see something that you like)
This is what is really done to us while sleeping: http://www.flickr.com/photos/84762483@N00/99165119/ according to some, it seems
& we thought we had weird dreams and that 'something' odd is going on...
This is what is really done to us while sleeping: http://www.flickr.com/photos/84762483@N00/99165119/ according to some, it seems
& we thought we had weird dreams and that 'something' odd is going on...
13 December 2011 06:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The blog that you are about to view may contain content only suitable for adults. In general, Google does not review nor do we endorse the content of this or any blog. For more information about our content policies, please visit the Blogger Terms of Service.
"I understand and wish to continue" "i do not wish to continue"
What about i do not Understand and want to continue on my own risk or something? Is net only really for on & off options?
"I understand and wish to continue" "i do not wish to continue"
What about i do not Understand and want to continue on my own risk or something? Is net only really for on & off options?
12 December 2011 14:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/eyebleach23.jpg
Who Would Jesus Vote For? - Supporting the Separation of Church and State
http://wwjv4.com/republicans/national-teabagging-day-368
"Think this guy has ever read the constitution?"
(http://wwjv4.com/category/activism - Progressive Blogs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm-1ZMAzwr4 (look the end) - original account related to this video was closed/deleted by youtube because CBS wanted so. What's up with these things?
http://www.urantiansojourn.com/2010/02/whew-its-okay-if-its-satire/
http://blogs.965thebuzz.com/files/2010/08/tea-bag-hat.jpg
http://blogs.965thebuzz.com/2011/04/
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/human_potential.htm
Who Would Jesus Vote For? - Supporting the Separation of Church and State
http://wwjv4.com/republicans/national-teabagging-day-368
"Think this guy has ever read the constitution?"
(http://wwjv4.com/category/activism - Progressive Blogs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm-1ZMAzwr4 (look the end) - original account related to this video was closed/deleted by youtube because CBS wanted so. What's up with these things?
http://www.urantiansojourn.com/2010/02/whew-its-okay-if-its-satire/
http://blogs.965thebuzz.com/files/2010/08/tea-bag-hat.jpg
http://blogs.965thebuzz.com/2011/04/
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/human_potential.htm
http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/eyebleach23.jpg
12 December 2011 13:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
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"The fries were well worth it. Cooked in truffle oil, with a side of cheddar cheese sauce that I'm not quite sure what exactly was in it, but it was delicious."
http://mcschmanky.blogspot.com/2009/04/i-refuse-to-make-any-teabagging-jokes.html
"Spanky McSchmanky's Extraterrestrial House of Pancakes
Syrup not included."
"The whole concept behind these "protests" is ludicrous, of course. And it's a pretend "grassroots" protest (aka Astroturf), which was actually orchestrated by Fox News and Dick Armey, who never met a rich person he wouldn't defend. I'm sick of it already and I don't feel like getting too far into it."
(We come unarmed (this time)
http://trickledownbs.blogspot.com/2010/08/teabaggers-listen-to-meits-me-me-me.html
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-82oRZa_AURk/Tl9q_s4IKXI/AAAAAAACzZA/CPlXgGjDjW4/s1600/teabagging-kochsuckers.jpg
"So, when you see these Tea Baggers protesting, you kind of think WTF?"
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Traditional Black teas [both Ceylon and multi-origin], healthy natural Green teas, SKAL certified organic teas, exotic fruit infusions, soothing herbal infusions and flavoured tea collection are just some of the teas to be discovered under our world renowned brands QUALITEA, SHERE TEA and GENEX which are sold in over 60 countries worldwide in a range of consumer packs( loose tea and metal free tea bags produced using the world's most advanced tea bagging machine, IMA C2000Â)
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http://www.scrawnywod.com/2010/12/food-porn-white-dog-cafe-revisited.html
"The fries were well worth it. Cooked in truffle oil, with a side of cheddar cheese sauce that I'm not quite sure what exactly was in it, but it was delicious."
http://mcschmanky.blogspot.com/2009/04/i-refuse-to-make-any-teabagging-jokes.html
"Spanky McSchmanky's Extraterrestrial House of Pancakes
Syrup not included."
"The whole concept behind these "protests" is ludicrous, of course. And it's a pretend "grassroots" protest (aka Astroturf), which was actually orchestrated by Fox News and Dick Armey, who never met a rich person he wouldn't defend. I'm sick of it already and I don't feel like getting too far into it."
(We come unarmed (this time)
http://trickledownbs.blogspot.com/2010/08/teabaggers-listen-to-meits-me-me-me.html
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-82oRZa_AURk/Tl9q_s4IKXI/AAAAAAACzZA/CPlXgGjDjW4/s1600/teabagging-kochsuckers.jpg
"So, when you see these Tea Baggers protesting, you kind of think WTF?"
We are also geared to undertake orders to pack tea under your own label or in bulk according to your requirements. Being a company with an ISO 9001:2000 certified quality management system you can rest assured of a superior product and service every time. Our organic teas are NOP and USDA certified and meets highest international standards.
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12 December 2011 13:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I forget this movie list related to topic, does anyone remember some movies that might have been there?
12 December 2011 12:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"So, make of it what you will. You have to be careful with interpreting dreams, because they frequently echo our unconscious fears, and theyn do not differentiate between "real" dangers, and imagined ones. A fear is a fear. Did I spend too much of my adolescence reading Ruth Montgomery and Edgar Cayce? Of course. Did these influence my dreams? Probably. However, while I largely ignore the "mainstream" New Age writers nowadays, there are a few that I find credible. One of these is Dr. Stephan Schwartz. Not only is he a credentialed academic, he's a very good writer. Perhaps his most important project has been the long-term "2050 Project," which he began in the 1970s. To my knowledge, he has not published anything on the data that he has collected, but he has pulled together hundreds (if not thousands) of remote viewing results in which he asks the viewer one simple question: "You are now in the year 2050. What do you see?" An excellent interview with Dr. Schwartz on this project can be found here: http://www.healthy.net/scr/interview.aspx?Id=305 ... "
The 2050 viewers describe these communities. Some of them are domed so that they can even control the weather. The weather has become a big deal. This was before global climate change [became a news item], but they described these huge weather changes and I couldn’t figure out what they were talking about. Huge droughts that have rendered parts of the country uninhabitable.
The 2050 viewers describe these communities. Some of them are domed so that they can even control the weather. The weather has become a big deal. This was before global climate change [became a news item], but they described these huge weather changes and I couldn’t figure out what they were talking about. Huge droughts that have rendered parts of the country uninhabitable.
http://www.healthy.net/scr/interview.aspx?Id=305
12 December 2011 11:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"February 19, 2002. Tuesday. 5:10 a.m.
I dreamed that the earth's population had been largely wiped out. I was in a small pocket of people that I thought was the last remaining group of survivors on earth. I think we were on the east coast. For some reason, I felt impelled to move the group across the country, to the west coast. We had a long and arduous journey west, to the California area. Once there, I noticed stray groups of people. I didn't want to associate with them, however. But there seemed to be some reason for us going west, that I didn't know at the time. I was telling everyone this. I knew that we had to rebuild the population from scratch.
September 15, 2002. Sunday. 4:25 a.m.
We were outside in a parking lot area. There were some menacing guys walking around along the street. [ ] was telling me that she had had many dreams of me performing tasks in an "axis shift" type of situation, and I said that "I was born for this event." Basically I indicated that I had lived through my life for this time. I moved into the lot and sat down on the ground.
July 17, 2005. Sunday. 7:05 a.m.
Someone was watching what seemed to be a television show that ..."
I dreamed that the earth's population had been largely wiped out. I was in a small pocket of people that I thought was the last remaining group of survivors on earth. I think we were on the east coast. For some reason, I felt impelled to move the group across the country, to the west coast. We had a long and arduous journey west, to the California area. Once there, I noticed stray groups of people. I didn't want to associate with them, however. But there seemed to be some reason for us going west, that I didn't know at the time. I was telling everyone this. I knew that we had to rebuild the population from scratch.
September 15, 2002. Sunday. 4:25 a.m.
We were outside in a parking lot area. There were some menacing guys walking around along the street. [ ] was telling me that she had had many dreams of me performing tasks in an "axis shift" type of situation, and I said that "I was born for this event." Basically I indicated that I had lived through my life for this time. I moved into the lot and sat down on the ground.
July 17, 2005. Sunday. 7:05 a.m.
Someone was watching what seemed to be a television show that ..."
12 December 2011 11:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"January 13, 1993. Wednesday
This morning I dreamed that I was on some sort of an island. I don't remember much about my circumstances but I got the impression that I was on some sort of trip. I was with other people; I don't remember who. I think I got to the island on a boat. I heard a weather report that warned of violent storms that were approaching. I knew that we had to leave; the island was in danger. I worried about my possessions that I planned to put on the boat; I was afraid the boat would sink. I worried especially about my computer, which I had brought with me.
July 8, 1994. Friday
In the next scene, I was in some sort of office room. It seemed like a central office somewhere. There were all sorts of files and machines neatly crammed into the room. I found ..."
This morning I dreamed that I was on some sort of an island. I don't remember much about my circumstances but I got the impression that I was on some sort of trip. I was with other people; I don't remember who. I think I got to the island on a boat. I heard a weather report that warned of violent storms that were approaching. I knew that we had to leave; the island was in danger. I worried about my possessions that I planned to put on the boat; I was afraid the boat would sink. I worried especially about my computer, which I had brought with me.
July 8, 1994. Friday
In the next scene, I was in some sort of office room. It seemed like a central office somewhere. There were all sorts of files and machines neatly crammed into the room. I found ..."
12 December 2011 11:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Pöörane aeg toob alati viljakat Rahu, Tööd ja loomist tahet
#GeorgeOrg
#GeorgeOrg
11 December 2011 15:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
long part is still coming, stay tuned :)
11 December 2011 11:50
Margus Meigo commented on Ragnar Suhtes's post.
Kas sa räägid ihast või armastusest?
11 December 2011 10:46
Margus Meigo commented on Rene Rumberg's post.
jea, Hommiku Täht ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_Star )?
Suure Paugu porno teooria kohaselt me vist kõik tähdedest tehtud?
Suure Paugu porno teooria kohaselt me vist kõik tähdedest tehtud?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_Star
11 December 2011 09:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Todays word: proliferation
1. The reproduction or multiplication of similar forms, especially of cells and morbid cysts.
2. The act of proliferating; a rapid and often excessive spread or increase.
antiproliferation:
1. Opposing an increase in nuclear weapons; especially, in allowing additional countries to obtain them.
2. Taking or containing measures to curb nuclear proliferation: to sign the antiproliferation treaty.
proli-, prol- +
Latin: offspring, child
http://wordinfo.info/unit/1758
proletarian
1. Of or pertaining to the lowest class of the people.
2. Of or pertaining to the proletariat in the modern sense; such as, the proletarian revolution or the stage of political development predicted by Karl Marx when he said the proletarians would overthrow capitalism.
3. A member of the poorest class of a community; especially, one who is without capital or regular employment; one of the proletariat.
4. Etymology: from Latin proletarius, "citizen of the lowest class"; in ancient Rome, people without property who were exempted from taxes and military service, and who served the state by having children; from proles, "offspring, progeny".
neologoliferation
1. A newly created word meaning, proliferation of neologisms or newly created words.
2. A combination of neo, "new"; logo, "word"; and proliferation, "rapid and often excessive spread or increase".
proliferator
Anyone, or anything, that causes growth or a rapid increasey.
proliferophilist, proliferophile
A collector of miscellaneous items.
prolific
1. Producing offspring, young, fruit, etc., abundantly; fertile; highly fruitful: a prolific pair of rabbits...
1. The reproduction or multiplication of similar forms, especially of cells and morbid cysts.
2. The act of proliferating; a rapid and often excessive spread or increase.
antiproliferation:
1. Opposing an increase in nuclear weapons; especially, in allowing additional countries to obtain them.
2. Taking or containing measures to curb nuclear proliferation: to sign the antiproliferation treaty.
proli-, prol- +
Latin: offspring, child
http://wordinfo.info/unit/1758
proletarian
1. Of or pertaining to the lowest class of the people.
2. Of or pertaining to the proletariat in the modern sense; such as, the proletarian revolution or the stage of political development predicted by Karl Marx when he said the proletarians would overthrow capitalism.
3. A member of the poorest class of a community; especially, one who is without capital or regular employment; one of the proletariat.
4. Etymology: from Latin proletarius, "citizen of the lowest class"; in ancient Rome, people without property who were exempted from taxes and military service, and who served the state by having children; from proles, "offspring, progeny".
neologoliferation
1. A newly created word meaning, proliferation of neologisms or newly created words.
2. A combination of neo, "new"; logo, "word"; and proliferation, "rapid and often excessive spread or increase".
proliferator
Anyone, or anything, that causes growth or a rapid increasey.
proliferophilist, proliferophile
A collector of miscellaneous items.
prolific
1. Producing offspring, young, fruit, etc., abundantly; fertile; highly fruitful: a prolific pair of rabbits...
http://www.wordinfo.info/unit/1758
11 December 2011 09:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Comments with rest of the post will be here in these day's
( to get notification about updates/comments you can Like the main post )
( to get notification about updates/comments you can Like the main post )
11 December 2011 09:39
Margus Meigo commented on Hermes Galatis's link.
or then again, maybe i did not, cant remember...
8 December 2011 22:16
Margus Meigo commented on Hermes Galatis's link.
One of the few real/original DVD's i have bought (other one was triumph of the will :P )
8 December 2011 22:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Päris omapärane oli vaadata kuidas narveeriti raha üle mida polnud võidetud veel
7 December 2011 18:30
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
& about aliens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPC3SdPwBH0 :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPC3SdPwBH0
7 December 2011 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
while we are at it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDgmjL6z2jY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDgmjL6z2jY
7 December 2011 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
& why not - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSJmYnHdvsc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSJmYnHdvsc
7 December 2011 02:23
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9-R8T1SuG4#t=2m25s :)
I first thought you posted about aliens so i was near to post this link i ended up by some fluke http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2011/07/31
I first thought you posted about aliens so i was near to post this link i ended up by some fluke http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2011/07/31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9-R8T1SuG4
7 December 2011 02:22
Margus Meigo commented on Indrek J's photo.
Pole tulnud seega ei saa minna ju, see on illusioon, et tuli. Ma võtsin kilekoti kaasa ja mõtlesin raha kaasa võtta sealt kuid nad lõikasid selle saatest välja :P
7 December 2011 02:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
1) CNN - Wikileaks comeback?
2) ABC - Julian Assange: he's not the messiah, he's just my boy / CIA & assassination
U.S. Rep. Peter King, R-New York, has said that Assange should be prosecuted for espionage. He also has said that the U.S. should classify WikiLeaks as a terrorist group so that "we can freeze their assets." King has called Assange an enemy combatant.
In less than two weeks, starting on December 16, the U.S. military will begin its case against Bradley Manning, the U.S. soldier suspected to have leaked classified information that appeared on the WikiLeaks site. Who is Manning?
On Thursday, 287 documents appeared on the WikiLeaks site about the global surveillance and arms industry. The dump provided many documents to mine, and it's still unclear what they might all mean. The Washington Post and other outlets called it a comeback for the site and for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/05/call-it-a-comeback-for-assange-maybe/
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/01/spy-files-wikileaks-releases-files-on-global-surveillance-industry/
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Julian Assange's WikiLeaks: Ten Days That Changed The World
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/05/julian-assange-wikileaks_n_1129355.html?ref=technology&ir=Technology&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008
& More everyday reading about personal life, you know, important
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3713222.html
In February this year former Reagan administration official Paul Craig Roberts said:
"…there is a concerted effort to nail him–to shut Assange up… If the legal attempt fails, he'll simply be assassinated by a CIA assassination team. It's common practice for the CIA to do that."
We live not in a world where "knowledge is power" so much as one where power abusers survive on deception and popular ignorance. That's exactly what Wikileaks' publishing aims to address: by getting things out in the open, and reporting honestly and accurately, people who are entrusted with power at least may be held accountable for what they do with it. A person like Julian Assange, who has the courage to act in the interests of each of us "little people", deserves our support – both individually and as a country - as the powerful try to close ranks around him.
2) ABC - Julian Assange: he's not the messiah, he's just my boy / CIA & assassination
U.S. Rep. Peter King, R-New York, has said that Assange should be prosecuted for espionage. He also has said that the U.S. should classify WikiLeaks as a terrorist group so that "we can freeze their assets." King has called Assange an enemy combatant.
In less than two weeks, starting on December 16, the U.S. military will begin its case against Bradley Manning, the U.S. soldier suspected to have leaked classified information that appeared on the WikiLeaks site. Who is Manning?
On Thursday, 287 documents appeared on the WikiLeaks site about the global surveillance and arms industry. The dump provided many documents to mine, and it's still unclear what they might all mean. The Washington Post and other outlets called it a comeback for the site and for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/05/call-it-a-comeback-for-assange-maybe/
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/01/spy-files-wikileaks-releases-files-on-global-surveillance-industry/
---
Julian Assange's WikiLeaks: Ten Days That Changed The World
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/05/julian-assange-wikileaks_n_1129355.html?ref=technology&ir=Technology&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008
& More everyday reading about personal life, you know, important
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3713222.html
In February this year former Reagan administration official Paul Craig Roberts said:
"…there is a concerted effort to nail him–to shut Assange up… If the legal attempt fails, he'll simply be assassinated by a CIA assassination team. It's common practice for the CIA to do that."
We live not in a world where "knowledge is power" so much as one where power abusers survive on deception and popular ignorance. That's exactly what Wikileaks' publishing aims to address: by getting things out in the open, and reporting honestly and accurately, people who are entrusted with power at least may be held accountable for what they do with it. A person like Julian Assange, who has the courage to act in the interests of each of us "little people", deserves our support – both individually and as a country - as the powerful try to close ranks around him.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/05/call-it-a-comeback-for-assange-maybe/
6 December 2011 06:49
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Nu selle Vatikani osas peab ikka asja üle kontrollima, mis võtit taevariiki/paradiisi nemad haldavad, to on ju meie sees
6 December 2011 06:40
Margus Meigo commented on Margot Hinn's post.
mõned uued kogemused, kontaktid ja infot kuidas mida tehakse :)
6 December 2011 06:27
Margus Meigo commented on Andro Velberg's post.
Lõbus oli ikkagi, see peamine :)
6 December 2011 06:19
Margus Meigo commented on Diego Jimenez's post.
Will break my pig with next days and will see what is inside.
Are you also interested of old soviet time coins that was available here before ?
Are you also interested of old soviet time coins that was available here before ?
5 December 2011 07:52
Margus Meigo commented on Diego Jimenez's post.
I will look in to this with in a month (i do not have resources right now for the fedex) - if there is no reply from me with a month, let me know, then let's try to think out something :)
4 December 2011 23:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Can i replace we
with You and me?
Yes .:. know
with You and me?
Yes .:. know
4 December 2011 23:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
'
I don't know if i know
the things i know i do not know
.:.
But i know i want to know
on this state of mind
that i do not know
Do I know, I can replace
I, with We and You ?
I don't know if i know
the things i know i do not know
.:.
But i know i want to know
on this state of mind
that i do not know
Do I know, I can replace
I, with We and You ?
4 December 2011 23:41
Margus Meigo commented on Dmitry Groz's post.
Hey, Sir! :)
4 December 2011 03:20
Margus Meigo commented on Max Choosewell's link.
likely they use it to advance us, will see what comes up from Wikileaks :)
http://mashable.com/2011/12/01/wikileaks-spy-files/
http://mashable.com/2011/12/01/wikileaks-spy-files/
http://mashable.com/2011/12/01/wikileaks-spy-files/
2 December 2011 08:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://mashable.com/2011/12/01/wikileaks-spy-files/
WikiLeaks on Thursday released the first 287 documents from a database containing “hundreds” of documents from contractors in what WikiLeaks calls the “mass surveillance industry.”
For this project, WikiLeaks teamed up with Bugged Planet and Privacy International, as well as media organizations around the world including the German ARD, UK’s Bureau of Investigative Journalism and the Washington Post in the U.S.
“Surveillance companies (…) hijack individual computers and phones (including iPhones, Blackberries and Androids), take over the device, record its every use, movement, and even the sights and sounds of the room it is in,” says WikiLeaks in its announcement of the new release.
“The WikiLeaks Spy Files reveal the details of which companies are making billions selling sophisticated tracking tools to government buyers, flouting export rules, and turning a blind eye to dictatorial regimes that abuse human rights,” says the post.
Also at:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/30/carrier-iq-trevor-eckhart_n_1120727.html
A security researcher has posted a video detailing hidden software installed on smart phones that logs numerous details about users' activities.
In a 17-minute video posted Monday on YouTube, Trevor Eckhart shows how the software – known as Carrier IQ – logs every text message, Google search and phone number typed on a wide variety of smart phones - including HTC, Blackberry, Nokia* and others - and reports them to the mobile phone carrier.
The application, which is labeled on Eckhart’s HTC smartphone as "HTC IQ Agent," also logs the URL of websites searched on the phone, even if the user intends to encrypt that data using a URL that begins with "HTTPS," Eckhart said.
The software always runs when Android operating system is running and users are unable to stop it, Eckhart said in the video.
"Why is this not opt-in and why is it so hard to fully remove?" Eckhart wrote at the end of the video.
In a post about Carrier IQ on his website, Eckhart called the software a "rootkit," a security term for software that runs in the background without a user's knowledge and is commonly used in malicious software.
Eckhart's video is the latest in a series of attacks between him and the company. Earlier this month, Carrier IQ sent a cease and desist letter to Eckhart claiming he violated copyright law by publishing Carrier IQ training manuals online. But after the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital rights group, came to Eckhart’s defense, the company backed off its legal threats.
The Electronic Frontier Foundation said the software that Eckhart has publicized "raises substantial privacy concerns" about software that "many consumers don’t know about."
WikiLeaks on Thursday released the first 287 documents from a database containing “hundreds” of documents from contractors in what WikiLeaks calls the “mass surveillance industry.”
For this project, WikiLeaks teamed up with Bugged Planet and Privacy International, as well as media organizations around the world including the German ARD, UK’s Bureau of Investigative Journalism and the Washington Post in the U.S.
“Surveillance companies (…) hijack individual computers and phones (including iPhones, Blackberries and Androids), take over the device, record its every use, movement, and even the sights and sounds of the room it is in,” says WikiLeaks in its announcement of the new release.
“The WikiLeaks Spy Files reveal the details of which companies are making billions selling sophisticated tracking tools to government buyers, flouting export rules, and turning a blind eye to dictatorial regimes that abuse human rights,” says the post.
Also at:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/30/carrier-iq-trevor-eckhart_n_1120727.html
A security researcher has posted a video detailing hidden software installed on smart phones that logs numerous details about users' activities.
In a 17-minute video posted Monday on YouTube, Trevor Eckhart shows how the software – known as Carrier IQ – logs every text message, Google search and phone number typed on a wide variety of smart phones - including HTC, Blackberry, Nokia* and others - and reports them to the mobile phone carrier.
The application, which is labeled on Eckhart’s HTC smartphone as "HTC IQ Agent," also logs the URL of websites searched on the phone, even if the user intends to encrypt that data using a URL that begins with "HTTPS," Eckhart said.
The software always runs when Android operating system is running and users are unable to stop it, Eckhart said in the video.
"Why is this not opt-in and why is it so hard to fully remove?" Eckhart wrote at the end of the video.
In a post about Carrier IQ on his website, Eckhart called the software a "rootkit," a security term for software that runs in the background without a user's knowledge and is commonly used in malicious software.
Eckhart's video is the latest in a series of attacks between him and the company. Earlier this month, Carrier IQ sent a cease and desist letter to Eckhart claiming he violated copyright law by publishing Carrier IQ training manuals online. But after the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital rights group, came to Eckhart’s defense, the company backed off its legal threats.
The Electronic Frontier Foundation said the software that Eckhart has publicized "raises substantial privacy concerns" about software that "many consumers don’t know about."
http://mashable.com/2011/12/01/wikileaks-spy-files/
2 December 2011 08:48
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
and how/why should we Like this post?
23 people?
Sheila Silver Raviv - are they?
23 people?
Sheila Silver Raviv - are they?
2 December 2011 07:01
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
or Is there a species, how you see it?
2 December 2011 06:52
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
Kind of reminds early western ordinary religious mind setting and laws from our books. Some more time (year's as we call it) then no where will be under stood this state of mind, it will go with in time, it's passing dream, part of evolution some might add
Intelligence Test this time for us? To test our compassion and mind setting - do we take it with anger, discuss or will behave as a more evolved part of species should behave and will seek answers from inside, how to guide our own..
Maybe one should be able to look the issue from other(s) point of view to seek answers that will evolve these left behind. To make a wise self-replicating knowledge about who She is, but can we back up it with right kind of Do's in this state of mind?
It is not common knowledge for many so what else besides compassion for these parts of mind's who can not jet see should we feel?. Now there is more and more of us who seek answers Who, Where and Why 'they' Are as we, do, after reading about this thought.
World will change, Queens shall rise and enlighten mankind about our true tasks but can we do it if we do not have co-operation and respect for all man and non man kind's? As is there one who alone is possessed by all the sides of all the right questions with answers needed for one's?
some minds might call it the rise of the Beast and might even be a bit mixed-up about it for a while, not sure what's up with that as progress is daily going on faster in our minds if we would just stop our daily sleep and stop it... stop it... stop it... and
(:w
Intelligence Test this time for us? To test our compassion and mind setting - do we take it with anger, discuss or will behave as a more evolved part of species should behave and will seek answers from inside, how to guide our own..
Maybe one should be able to look the issue from other(s) point of view to seek answers that will evolve these left behind. To make a wise self-replicating knowledge about who She is, but can we back up it with right kind of Do's in this state of mind?
It is not common knowledge for many so what else besides compassion for these parts of mind's who can not jet see should we feel?. Now there is more and more of us who seek answers Who, Where and Why 'they' Are as we, do, after reading about this thought.
World will change, Queens shall rise and enlighten mankind about our true tasks but can we do it if we do not have co-operation and respect for all man and non man kind's? As is there one who alone is possessed by all the sides of all the right questions with answers needed for one's?
some minds might call it the rise of the Beast and might even be a bit mixed-up about it for a while, not sure what's up with that as progress is daily going on faster in our minds if we would just stop our daily sleep and stop it... stop it... stop it... and
(:w
2 December 2011 06:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
'
Will hell provide you with heaven?
Can (perfect) heaven be without (optional) hell?
Well, if hell is like that
the one who got it
feels well
but what about us?
Will hell provide you with heaven?
Can (perfect) heaven be without (optional) hell?
Well, if hell is like that
the one who got it
feels well
but what about us?
2 December 2011 02:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
'
Have you heard, there is idea
' man is imperfect,
world around is inperfect
but what about this, idea ?
If you hold on this, idea -
you imperfect man,
tell me how
' is this idea perf'etc?
Have you heard, there is idea
' man is imperfect,
world around is inperfect
but what about this, idea ?
If you hold on this, idea -
you imperfect man,
tell me how
' is this idea perf'etc?
2 December 2011 02:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: turn on, tune in, drop out
Facebook has removed the page... will look in to this phenomena :)2 December 2011 00:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Vaat kui armas, kuid see pilt muidu päris ikka v? :)
1 December 2011 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
More full W related videos http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=videos&search_query=Wittgenstein&search_duration=long&page=1
Many western philo videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/shinobirastafari
Many western philo videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/shinobirastafari
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=videos&search_query=Wittgenstein&search_duration=long&page=1
1 December 2011 22:09
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
I did not know gay's are popular in polish army, this is neat :)
1 December 2011 16:33
Margus Meigo commented on Lori Leatherman's post.
It should not be painful for us, as they are gone, nothing of us is gone. No one who is gone would like to make feel other bad... after all, we feel bad about our loss - nothing to tragic, we just have programmed like this in here - you have to feel bad ... hours and hours when someone is gone.. but actually, we should be happy that they was here these days with us & now they are not in this body anymore, they fly around maybe, free from all this here, like us, soon :)
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http://klassikaraadio.err.ee/helid?main_id=1318063
Some music for chill
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http://klassikaraadio.err.ee/helid?main_id=1318063
Some music for chill
http://klassikaraadio.err.ee/helid?main_id=1318063
29 November 2011 04:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3080217-the-myth-of-the-chemical-cure & amazon. Or download from the link.
Coming Off from Psych Drugs Harm Reduction Guide:
http://theicarusproject.net/downloads/ComingOffPsychDrugsHarmReductGuide1Edonline.pdf (
http://theicarusproject.net/ & http://www.freedom-center.org http://www.power2u.org/who.html http://www.westernmassrlc.org/ )
_
J. Moncrieff
JOANNA MONCRIEFF is an academic and practising psychiatrist. She is a long-standing critic of psychiatric drug treatment and has published numerous articles in medical journals. She was a founding member and is the co-chair person of the Critical Psychiatry Network.
This book exposes the traditional view that psychiatric drugs correct chemical imbalances as a dangerous fraud. It traces the emergence of this view and the way it supported the vested interests of the psychiatric profession, the pharmaceutical industry and the modern state. Instead it is proposed that psychiatric drugs 'work' by creating abnormal brain states, which are often unpleasant and impair normal intellectual and emotional functions along with other harmful consequences. Research on antipsychotics, antidepressants and mood stabilisers is examined to demonstrate this thesis and it is suggested that acknowledging the real nature of psychiatric drugs would lead to a more democratic practice of psychiatry.
The Disease Centred Model of Drug Action in Psychiatry * An Alternative Drug Centred Model of Drug Action * Physical Treatments and the Disease Centred Model * The Arrival of the New Drugs and the Influence of Interest Groups * The Birth of the Idea of an 'Antipsychotic' * Are Neuroleptics Effective and Specific? A Review of the Evidence * What do Neuroleptics Really Do? A Drug Centred Approach * The Construction of the 'Antidepressant' * Is There Such a Thing as an Antidepressant? A Review of the Evidence * What do Antidepressants Really Do? * The Idea of Special Drugs for Manic Depression * Evidence on the Action of Lithium and Mood Stabilisers *
Democratic Drug Treatment: Implications of the Drug Centred Model *
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/196/2/164.2.full / http://us.macmillan.com/themythofthechemicalcure/JMoncrieff
Download here to review before buy
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9XHUTsH7izHMTY4ZGY4ZTgtZjRiOS00Zjk4LTg5NzktYTA2MjExMjcxMzUy
Coming Off from Psych Drugs Harm Reduction Guide:
http://theicarusproject.net/downloads/ComingOffPsychDrugsHarmReductGuide1Edonline.pdf (
http://theicarusproject.net/ & http://www.freedom-center.org http://www.power2u.org/who.html http://www.westernmassrlc.org/ )
_
J. Moncrieff
JOANNA MONCRIEFF is an academic and practising psychiatrist. She is a long-standing critic of psychiatric drug treatment and has published numerous articles in medical journals. She was a founding member and is the co-chair person of the Critical Psychiatry Network.
This book exposes the traditional view that psychiatric drugs correct chemical imbalances as a dangerous fraud. It traces the emergence of this view and the way it supported the vested interests of the psychiatric profession, the pharmaceutical industry and the modern state. Instead it is proposed that psychiatric drugs 'work' by creating abnormal brain states, which are often unpleasant and impair normal intellectual and emotional functions along with other harmful consequences. Research on antipsychotics, antidepressants and mood stabilisers is examined to demonstrate this thesis and it is suggested that acknowledging the real nature of psychiatric drugs would lead to a more democratic practice of psychiatry.
The Disease Centred Model of Drug Action in Psychiatry * An Alternative Drug Centred Model of Drug Action * Physical Treatments and the Disease Centred Model * The Arrival of the New Drugs and the Influence of Interest Groups * The Birth of the Idea of an 'Antipsychotic' * Are Neuroleptics Effective and Specific? A Review of the Evidence * What do Neuroleptics Really Do? A Drug Centred Approach * The Construction of the 'Antidepressant' * Is There Such a Thing as an Antidepressant? A Review of the Evidence * What do Antidepressants Really Do? * The Idea of Special Drugs for Manic Depression * Evidence on the Action of Lithium and Mood Stabilisers *
Democratic Drug Treatment: Implications of the Drug Centred Model *
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/196/2/164.2.full / http://us.macmillan.com/themythofthechemicalcure/JMoncrieff
Download here to review before buy
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B9XHUTsH7izHMTY4ZGY4ZTgtZjRiOS00Zjk4LTg5NzktYTA2MjExMjcxMzUy
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3080217-the-myth-of-the-chemical-cure
29 November 2011 02:34
Margus Meigo commented on Clark Crawford's photo.
This is what public servants should do, next one should wipe the streets & helping to get sad people mood up in streets
29 November 2011 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
A number of harmful and undesired (adverse) effects have been observed, including lowered life expectancy, weight gain, decrease in brain volume (Continuous use of neuroleptics has been shown to decrease the total brain volume by 10% in macaque monkeys), enlarged breasts and milk discharge in men and women, lowered white blood cell count, involuntary repetitive body movements, diabetes, an inability to sit still or remain motionless, sexual dysfunction, a return of psychosis requiring increasing the dosage due to cells producing more neurochemicals to compensate for the drugs (tardive psychosis), and a potential for permanent chemical dependence leading to psychosis much worse than before treatment began, if the drug dosage is ever lowered or stopped (tardive dysphrenia).
In addition, "antipsychotics" are increasingly used to treat non-psychotic disorders. For example, they are sometimes used off-label to manage aspects of Tourette syndrome or autism spectrum disorders.
Antipsychotics have also been increasingly used off-label in cases of dementia in older people, and for various disorders and difficulties in children and teenagers. A survey of children with pervasive developmental disorder found that 16.5% were taking an antipsychotic drug, most commonly to alleviate mood and behavioral disturbances characterized by irritability, aggression, and agitation. Recently, risperidone was approved by the US FDA for the treatment of irritability in children and adolescents with autism "
"Nevertheless, a 2009 systematic review and meta-analysis of trials in people diagnosed with schizophrenia found that less than half (41%) showed any therapeutic response to an antipsychotic, compared to 24% on placebo, and that there was a decline in treatment response over time, and possibly a bias in which trial results were published
Cochrane Collaboration review of trials of Risperidone, one of the biggest selling antipsychotics and the first of the new generation to become available in generic form, found only marginal benefit compared with placebo and that, despite its widespread use, evidence remains limited, poorly reported and probably biased in favor of risperidone due to pharmaceutical company funding of trials
Antipsychotics are among the biggest selling and most profitable of all drugs, generating $22 billion in global sales in 2008"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipsychotic#Structural_effects
What about working less, spending more time with activities we love, spending more time in nature, some silence medication, removing digital drugs & news for 3+ months, drinking more water, see that you do not Need partner, cut porn, do NOT entertain your brain all the free time - it's as hard work for your brain, look some intelligent movies, turn off phone, go theater, skip days from work if it sucks - it's expensive for them to fire you for few mistakes, meet people on your way to work - at least try to smile to them - Talk about yourself & ask about other personal life - nothing from media..., respect yourself and do not let anyone scare you with illusion that they are more worth then you - or you more then others. Help few people, bring some strange people in home, open up account in http://www.couchsurfing.org/ if you can not find anyone from street, look in to some older spiritual related posts i have here, there is some pretty strong stuff there, and there is many more hints, fallow the Withe Rabbit, it really does lead you to New Roads
& at least thinking about nature...
In addition, "antipsychotics" are increasingly used to treat non-psychotic disorders. For example, they are sometimes used off-label to manage aspects of Tourette syndrome or autism spectrum disorders.
Antipsychotics have also been increasingly used off-label in cases of dementia in older people, and for various disorders and difficulties in children and teenagers. A survey of children with pervasive developmental disorder found that 16.5% were taking an antipsychotic drug, most commonly to alleviate mood and behavioral disturbances characterized by irritability, aggression, and agitation. Recently, risperidone was approved by the US FDA for the treatment of irritability in children and adolescents with autism "
"Nevertheless, a 2009 systematic review and meta-analysis of trials in people diagnosed with schizophrenia found that less than half (41%) showed any therapeutic response to an antipsychotic, compared to 24% on placebo, and that there was a decline in treatment response over time, and possibly a bias in which trial results were published
Cochrane Collaboration review of trials of Risperidone, one of the biggest selling antipsychotics and the first of the new generation to become available in generic form, found only marginal benefit compared with placebo and that, despite its widespread use, evidence remains limited, poorly reported and probably biased in favor of risperidone due to pharmaceutical company funding of trials
Antipsychotics are among the biggest selling and most profitable of all drugs, generating $22 billion in global sales in 2008"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipsychotic#Structural_effects
What about working less, spending more time with activities we love, spending more time in nature, some silence medication, removing digital drugs & news for 3+ months, drinking more water, see that you do not Need partner, cut porn, do NOT entertain your brain all the free time - it's as hard work for your brain, look some intelligent movies, turn off phone, go theater, skip days from work if it sucks - it's expensive for them to fire you for few mistakes, meet people on your way to work - at least try to smile to them - Talk about yourself & ask about other personal life - nothing from media..., respect yourself and do not let anyone scare you with illusion that they are more worth then you - or you more then others. Help few people, bring some strange people in home, open up account in http://www.couchsurfing.org/ if you can not find anyone from street, look in to some older spiritual related posts i have here, there is some pretty strong stuff there, and there is many more hints, fallow the Withe Rabbit, it really does lead you to New Roads
& at least thinking about nature...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipsychotic#Structural_effects
28 November 2011 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on Diego Jimenez's post.
Greetings, good that you remind me, i should have sent some to friend in Phillipines also
Send me a address to mailbox, not sure i will do it in near days but for sure will keep it in mind
Do you already have some estonia coins, or want all of them, some specific dates?
Send me a address to mailbox, not sure i will do it in near days but for sure will keep it in mind
Do you already have some estonia coins, or want all of them, some specific dates?
24 November 2011 22:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
There is even some well rated books (well by fans mostly i would assume) http://www.amazon.co.uk/TheAntiTerrorist-Handbook/dp/190560517X/ (54 5-stars from 61 votes)
The channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAntiTerrorist
The page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/TheAntiTerrorist/307254781960
The channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAntiTerrorist
The page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/TheAntiTerrorist/307254781960
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/190560517X/
24 November 2011 02:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU7G6XIMt2Q the Game of Court, look to get some idea about these terrorist tactics (and do not forget - terrorist is just a word for you to do, think and feel how ever you choose after you get in contact with this word by sound or text)
http://freedomrebels.co.uk/ - Freeman's Network
- does it bother you that these videos from more and more profiles are not playable by youtube anymore?
At least i am allowed now to send messages outside my contacts :)
http://freedomrebels.co.uk/ - Freeman's Network
- does it bother you that these videos from more and more profiles are not playable by youtube anymore?
At least i am allowed now to send messages outside my contacts :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU7G6XIMt2Q
24 November 2011 01:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
More reading & fun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redemption_movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sovereign_citizen_movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Redemption_movement
" One element of the theory states that Americans are U.S. nationals, not U.S. citizens, and can therefore avoid taxes by changing their filing status from "U.S. citizen" to "non-resident alien". This argument has been repeatedly rejected by federal courts.[10] Classes are often set up to teach the intricacies of the theory, and books have been published about it in the underground press. Canaanite law is held to be an important source of law and The Wizard of Oz (presumably because of the scarecrow character, i.e. the "straw man") and The Matrix trilogy are held to have important symbolism in reference to this theory,[11] and there is also said to be Some connection to the New World Order. "
"The redemption movement consists of supporters of an American conspiracy theory.[1] Redemption theory involves claims that when the U.S. government abandoned the gold standard in 1933, the government pledged its citizens as collateral so that the government could borrow money. The movement also asserts that common citizens can gain access to funds in secret accounts using obscure procedures and regulations."
"The "sovereign citizen" concept may have originated in the Posse Comitatus movement as a teaching of Christian Identity minister William P. Gale. The concept has influenced the tax protester movement, the Christian Patriot movement, and the redemption movement[4]—the last of which includes claims that the U.S. government has enslaved its citizens by using them as collateral against foreign debt. Supporters sell instructions explaining how to "free" oneself by filing particular government forms in a particular order using particular wording."
"A 2010 publication from the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) estimated that approximately 100,000 Americans are "hard-core sovereign believers", and that another 200,000 are "just starting out by testing sovereign techniques for resisting everything from speeding tickets to drug charges".
"Other important documents in this theory are the security agreement, power of attorney, copyright notice, hold-harmless agreement, Form UCC-3, notice of security agreement, birth certificate bond, Form 56 (notice concerning fiduciary relationship), Form W-8BEN (serving notice to the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury of the correct status of the issuer of the bond and countering any presumption that the issuer might be considered to be a fictional entity), declaration of status, Form 1040-V, Form 1099-OID,[6][7][8] and the Notice of International Commercial Claim in Admiralty Administrative Remedy.[9] It is held, however, that the UCC-1 merely creates a rebuttable presumption, which can be overcome if a man or woman is receiving some sort of benefit from the state as a slave. It is held to be important to not sign documents such as W-4 forms, or if one is to sign them, to also write "under duress".
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Well, if it all would be so, where would we be?
(:w
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redemption_movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sovereign_citizen_movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Redemption_movement
" One element of the theory states that Americans are U.S. nationals, not U.S. citizens, and can therefore avoid taxes by changing their filing status from "U.S. citizen" to "non-resident alien". This argument has been repeatedly rejected by federal courts.[10] Classes are often set up to teach the intricacies of the theory, and books have been published about it in the underground press. Canaanite law is held to be an important source of law and The Wizard of Oz (presumably because of the scarecrow character, i.e. the "straw man") and The Matrix trilogy are held to have important symbolism in reference to this theory,[11] and there is also said to be Some connection to the New World Order. "
"The redemption movement consists of supporters of an American conspiracy theory.[1] Redemption theory involves claims that when the U.S. government abandoned the gold standard in 1933, the government pledged its citizens as collateral so that the government could borrow money. The movement also asserts that common citizens can gain access to funds in secret accounts using obscure procedures and regulations."
"The "sovereign citizen" concept may have originated in the Posse Comitatus movement as a teaching of Christian Identity minister William P. Gale. The concept has influenced the tax protester movement, the Christian Patriot movement, and the redemption movement[4]—the last of which includes claims that the U.S. government has enslaved its citizens by using them as collateral against foreign debt. Supporters sell instructions explaining how to "free" oneself by filing particular government forms in a particular order using particular wording."
"A 2010 publication from the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) estimated that approximately 100,000 Americans are "hard-core sovereign believers", and that another 200,000 are "just starting out by testing sovereign techniques for resisting everything from speeding tickets to drug charges".
"Other important documents in this theory are the security agreement, power of attorney, copyright notice, hold-harmless agreement, Form UCC-3, notice of security agreement, birth certificate bond, Form 56 (notice concerning fiduciary relationship), Form W-8BEN (serving notice to the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury of the correct status of the issuer of the bond and countering any presumption that the issuer might be considered to be a fictional entity), declaration of status, Form 1040-V, Form 1099-OID,[6][7][8] and the Notice of International Commercial Claim in Admiralty Administrative Remedy.[9] It is held, however, that the UCC-1 merely creates a rebuttable presumption, which can be overcome if a man or woman is receiving some sort of benefit from the state as a slave. It is held to be important to not sign documents such as W-4 forms, or if one is to sign them, to also write "under duress".
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Well, if it all would be so, where would we be?
(:w
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redemption_movement
24 November 2011 00:58
Margus Meigo commented on Fideelia-Signe Roots's post.
Group: POLIITIKA, RELIGIOON, RAHA
Kas te pole mõelnud, et see occupy suurem osa likumise suunast võib olla organiseeritud nende poolt kelle vastu nod peaksid organiseeritud olema? See seletaks ka likumise effektiivsust ja 'strateegiat'...24 November 2011 00:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: POLIITIKA, RELIGIOON, RAHA
" • Significant Growth. The sovereign citizen movement is an extreme anti-government movement whose members believe the government has no authority over them.
• Demographically, most sovereign citizens tend to be middle-aged or older. Many of the leaders of
the movement are in their 60s and 70s.
• Infecting Prisons. As a result of imprisoned sovereign citizens continuing to recruit and
teach their ideology while behind bars, a growing number of federal and state prisoners are
becoming sovereign citizens or using the “paper terrorism” tactics of the movement to retaliate against judges, prosecutors and others involved in their case. Prison officials seem to have had little luck in stemming the growth of this movement in prisons.
• Amazing as it may seem, especially given that police are among the most common targets of
sovereign citizens, sometimes even current or former law enforcement officers can get lured into the
sovereign citizen movement. "
text valitsuse lehelt seal olevas pdf'is, seal palju muud huvitavat - postitasin mõned väljavõtted oma lehele ka :)24 November 2011 00:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: POLIITIKA, RELIGIOON, RAHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D--5iFc2Ng0 - vaadake ka seotud videosi ja minge sügavamale, pole mõtet niisama pead vaevata selle üle, miks meid kasvatatakse nagu lambaid - vaid tuleb hakata käituma vastavalt oma õigustele & kõige tähtsam: mitte karta, ega vihane olla (viha on lihtsalt üks moodus hirmu, komplekside ja arusaamade nappuste välja elamiseks)
:)23 November 2011 01:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Also take look at Global Sovereign's Handbook: http://www.freeinfosociety.com/media/pdf/3089.pdf
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7366128n&tag=segementExtraScroller;housing documentary + a lot of comments :) "Anti-government U.S. extremists who don't pay taxes and ignore requirements like social security cards and drivers licenses are on the rise. Called sovereign citizens, some have become violent and the FBI considers them a domestic terror threat. Byron Pitts reports."
(got links from https://hsdl.org/hslog/?q=node/6193 - department of homeland security website, thank guys)
Related videos on Free Man On the land http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D--5iFc2Ng0 might be interesting
and if you are really into wanting to know what are you in then get Black Law Dictionary or Legal English, legalese dictionary's
( some http://blacks.worldfreemansociety.org, http://www.hg.org/law-dictionary.html - many links to online dictionaries )
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7366128n&tag=segementExtraScroller;housing documentary + a lot of comments :) "Anti-government U.S. extremists who don't pay taxes and ignore requirements like social security cards and drivers licenses are on the rise. Called sovereign citizens, some have become violent and the FBI considers them a domestic terror threat. Byron Pitts reports."
(got links from https://hsdl.org/hslog/?q=node/6193 - department of homeland security website, thank guys)
Related videos on Free Man On the land http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D--5iFc2Ng0 might be interesting
and if you are really into wanting to know what are you in then get Black Law Dictionary or Legal English, legalese dictionary's
( some http://blacks.worldfreemansociety.org, http://www.hg.org/law-dictionary.html - many links to online dictionaries )
23 November 2011 01:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
More forums & paper terrorist can be found there: http://waronyou.com/forums/
http://www.suijurisforum.com/ (from where the original post come from)
http://worldfreemansociety.org/Welcome+Page
http://thinkfree.ca/
http://www.suijurisforum.com/ (from where the original post come from)
http://worldfreemansociety.org/Welcome+Page
http://thinkfree.ca/
http://www.waronyou.com/forums/
23 November 2011 01:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://famguardian.org/ (a Lot, of material - also look the links posted in few comments back)
On the page you will find a lot besides (this is just scam section) :
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Scams/scams.htm#Tax_Scams
Tax Scams
Great IRS Hoax Book-documents the government income tax fraud
The Galileo Paradigm (9.3 Mbytes)-documents the government income tax fraud
The "Trade or Business" Scam-how the IRS deceives "nontaxpayers" into becoming "taxpayers"
The "Trade or Business" Scam, Form #05.001 (OFFSITE LINK) -PDF version of the above useful in court
The Tax Court Scam, Form #05.039 (OFFSITE LINK)-Shows how "nontaxpayers" are tricked into declaring themselves "taxpayers" by petitioning Tax Court.
The Information Return Scam- heart of the IRS Fraud
The ABCs of Government Theft (25 Mbytes) -ebook
Legal Profession Corruption
What Happened to Justice?, Form #06.012 (OFFSITE LINK) -why the federal courts are franchise and property courts that cannot and do not deliver justice
What Happened to the Constitution? -Short slide show that illustrates how the USA constitution was systematically destroyed by your public dis-servants since the founding of this country
The Best Judges that Money Can Buy
Why you DON'T want an attorney-amazing. Right out of the Corpus Juris Secundum legal encyclopedia.
General Corruption
Silent Weapons, Quiet Wars-Top Secret government document that demonstrates the conspiracy against rights that is at the heart of our present de facto corporate government
BlackBoxVoting.com-website that exposes electronic voter manipulation
Sins of the State: An Address to the People of Texas Regarding the Great Generational Betrayal-Richard Voudren
Congress Sold Out the Country!-excellent song
Suppressed Inventions and Other Discoveries -Jonathan Eisen
A Nation Against Itself Will Not Stand -ebook by the Girdwood Guru
While People Sleep -pamphlet by Common Sense Press
The Magnificent Deception-very interesting video series
Dilemma for the Pirates-Ed Henry
Shattered Dreams-case studies of people whose lives were destroyed unjustly by the federal government
Affidavit by Doug Mitchell Concerning Activities at Waco-a person with first-hand knowledge who was involved.
Waco Texas Warrants-the biggest government scam and cover-up of the last ten years, other than income taxes, of course
GOVERNMENT SCAMS:
The REAL Matrix-fascinating video
The Story of Your Enslavement-excellent movie by Stefan Molyneux
The Money That is Sold Abroad is YOU-fascinating video
Resources to Investigate Government Corruption: Activism Page, Section 12
De Facto Government Scam, Form #05.043 (OFFSITE LINK)-Proves that we don't have a real, de jure government, and explains all the ways this de facto government illegally expands and protects its own criminal extortion enterprise and protection racket.
Government Conspiracy to Destroy the Separation of Powers, Form #05.023 (OFFSITE LINK) -how your rights have been destroyed by destroying the separation of powers that is the foundation of the Constitution
Ministry Introduction, Form #12.014 (OFFSITE LINK)-Proves that we don't have a real, de jure government but THE MATRIX.
Government Abuses and Usurpations-The Constitution Society
George Carlin on Who Controls America (5 minutes, 599 Kbytes, MP3)-funny but very true
Video
Audio
Energy Scam-do you think we have an energy problem? NO-we have a POLITICAL problem. Click here to learn more
Illusions
UNICEF Wants Your Children-the UNICEF Fraud
Mark of the Beast: 42 U.S.C. §666-big brother is finally here as the Bible predicted
How the Judiciary Stole the Right to Petition
Internet Fraud Complaint Center (http://www.ifccfbi.gov) 6 month report
Citizen Action Links-What you can do about the scandals, by The Constitution Societ
On the page you will find a lot besides (this is just scam section) :
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Scams/scams.htm#Tax_Scams
Tax Scams
Great IRS Hoax Book-documents the government income tax fraud
The Galileo Paradigm (9.3 Mbytes)-documents the government income tax fraud
The "Trade or Business" Scam-how the IRS deceives "nontaxpayers" into becoming "taxpayers"
The "Trade or Business" Scam, Form #05.001 (OFFSITE LINK) -PDF version of the above useful in court
The Tax Court Scam, Form #05.039 (OFFSITE LINK)-Shows how "nontaxpayers" are tricked into declaring themselves "taxpayers" by petitioning Tax Court.
The Information Return Scam- heart of the IRS Fraud
The ABCs of Government Theft (25 Mbytes) -ebook
Legal Profession Corruption
What Happened to Justice?, Form #06.012 (OFFSITE LINK) -why the federal courts are franchise and property courts that cannot and do not deliver justice
What Happened to the Constitution? -Short slide show that illustrates how the USA constitution was systematically destroyed by your public dis-servants since the founding of this country
The Best Judges that Money Can Buy
Why you DON'T want an attorney-amazing. Right out of the Corpus Juris Secundum legal encyclopedia.
General Corruption
Silent Weapons, Quiet Wars-Top Secret government document that demonstrates the conspiracy against rights that is at the heart of our present de facto corporate government
BlackBoxVoting.com-website that exposes electronic voter manipulation
Sins of the State: An Address to the People of Texas Regarding the Great Generational Betrayal-Richard Voudren
Congress Sold Out the Country!-excellent song
Suppressed Inventions and Other Discoveries -Jonathan Eisen
A Nation Against Itself Will Not Stand -ebook by the Girdwood Guru
While People Sleep -pamphlet by Common Sense Press
The Magnificent Deception-very interesting video series
Dilemma for the Pirates-Ed Henry
Shattered Dreams-case studies of people whose lives were destroyed unjustly by the federal government
Affidavit by Doug Mitchell Concerning Activities at Waco-a person with first-hand knowledge who was involved.
Waco Texas Warrants-the biggest government scam and cover-up of the last ten years, other than income taxes, of course
GOVERNMENT SCAMS:
The REAL Matrix-fascinating video
The Story of Your Enslavement-excellent movie by Stefan Molyneux
The Money That is Sold Abroad is YOU-fascinating video
Resources to Investigate Government Corruption: Activism Page, Section 12
De Facto Government Scam, Form #05.043 (OFFSITE LINK)-Proves that we don't have a real, de jure government, and explains all the ways this de facto government illegally expands and protects its own criminal extortion enterprise and protection racket.
Government Conspiracy to Destroy the Separation of Powers, Form #05.023 (OFFSITE LINK) -how your rights have been destroyed by destroying the separation of powers that is the foundation of the Constitution
Ministry Introduction, Form #12.014 (OFFSITE LINK)-Proves that we don't have a real, de jure government but THE MATRIX.
Government Abuses and Usurpations-The Constitution Society
George Carlin on Who Controls America (5 minutes, 599 Kbytes, MP3)-funny but very true
Video
Audio
Energy Scam-do you think we have an energy problem? NO-we have a POLITICAL problem. Click here to learn more
Illusions
UNICEF Wants Your Children-the UNICEF Fraud
Mark of the Beast: 42 U.S.C. §666-big brother is finally here as the Bible predicted
How the Judiciary Stole the Right to Petition
Internet Fraud Complaint Center (http://www.ifccfbi.gov) 6 month report
Citizen Action Links-What you can do about the scandals, by The Constitution Societ
http://www.famguardian.org/
23 November 2011 00:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
VII. Sovereign Citizen Tactics: Frauds and Scams
For decades, the sovereign citizen movement has been home to hundreds of con artists and
tricksters who use the language and pseudo-legal theories of the movement to beguile people into
giving them their money. It is not uncommon for successful sovereign con artists to get more than
a million dollars out of their schemes; several of the largest sovereign-involved scams have raked in
over a hundred million dollars.
" Dentist and sovereign citizen Thomas Miller pleaded guilty in federal court to fraud and tax related charges related to a complicated investment scheme involving “certificates of deposit” that took in more than $2.4 million.
Ironically, Miller himself was being defrauded by other con artists at the same time. During subsequent legal proceedings, Miller claimed that he was not subject to federal law because he was a member of the Little Shell Pembina Band of North America (a fictitious tribe created by sovereign citizens) and threatened to convene a grand jury to indict treasonous court officials. A psychiatrist believed Miller’s sovereign citizen arguments were indicators of a “delusional disorder” and he was ruled incompetent and the charges against him were dismissed prior to sentencing. "
For decades, the sovereign citizen movement has been home to hundreds of con artists and
tricksters who use the language and pseudo-legal theories of the movement to beguile people into
giving them their money. It is not uncommon for successful sovereign con artists to get more than
a million dollars out of their schemes; several of the largest sovereign-involved scams have raked in
over a hundred million dollars.
" Dentist and sovereign citizen Thomas Miller pleaded guilty in federal court to fraud and tax related charges related to a complicated investment scheme involving “certificates of deposit” that took in more than $2.4 million.
Ironically, Miller himself was being defrauded by other con artists at the same time. During subsequent legal proceedings, Miller claimed that he was not subject to federal law because he was a member of the Little Shell Pembina Band of North America (a fictitious tribe created by sovereign citizens) and threatened to convene a grand jury to indict treasonous court officials. A psychiatrist believed Miller’s sovereign citizen arguments were indicators of a “delusional disorder” and he was ruled incompetent and the charges against him were dismissed prior to sentencing. "
23 November 2011 00:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Some recent examples include:
• Charlotte County, Florida, June 2010: A motorcycle-riding sovereign citizen, John McComb, was pulled over by a Charlotte County sheriff’s deputy. Instead of his license and registration, he allegedly gave the deputy a letter of Diplomatic Immunity and a bogus “registration” document from the fictitious sovereign citizen Indian tribe dubbed the Little Shell Band of North America (see below).
Whitefish, Montana, February 2009: After being pulled over by police near Whitefish, sovereign citizen Robert Blair Young refused to provide a driver’s license but instead handed over a 25-page identification document. Later, Young demanded payment from the city because his name was copyrighted and the city had used it without permission; he also made a number of other demands, including a request for a W-9 form for the police chief (who had performed the stop). Some sovereign citizens use information on W-9 forms to file harassing documents with the IRS.
• Charlotte County, Florida, June 2010: A motorcycle-riding sovereign citizen, John McComb, was pulled over by a Charlotte County sheriff’s deputy. Instead of his license and registration, he allegedly gave the deputy a letter of Diplomatic Immunity and a bogus “registration” document from the fictitious sovereign citizen Indian tribe dubbed the Little Shell Band of North America (see below).
Whitefish, Montana, February 2009: After being pulled over by police near Whitefish, sovereign citizen Robert Blair Young refused to provide a driver’s license but instead handed over a 25-page identification document. Later, Young demanded payment from the city because his name was copyrighted and the city had used it without permission; he also made a number of other demands, including a request for a W-9 form for the police chief (who had performed the stop). Some sovereign citizens use information on W-9 forms to file harassing documents with the IRS.
23 November 2011 00:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The array of tactics that sovereign citizens utilize is diverse and ever-changing. Some sovereign
citizen tactics date all the way back to the 1970s, while others are brand-new. Sovereign citizen
gurus probably read more statutes and codes than most attorneys or legal scholars, but they do so
for entirely different reasons and in very different ways.
VI. Sovereign Citizen Tactics: Counterfeit Documents and Entities
Sovereign citizens are some of the most brazen counterfeiters around. They create fake license
plates, drivers’ licenses, vehicle registrations, insurance cards, identification cards, and passports.
Even more ambitiously, sovereign citizens have created fictitious financial instruments, such as
“sight drafts” and “bills of exchange;” fictitious countries, colonies, and even Native American
tribes; fictitious law enforcement agencies and more. They are constantly engaged in ways to create
spurious forms of documentation and authority to help them avoid the reach of the actual
government.
One sovereign citizen fad that has been sweeping the country in recent years is the notion of
“diplomatic immunity,” in which sovereigns declare themselves “diplomats” and their homes as
“embassies.” Once they have done so, they will create or procure their own “Diplomatic Agent”
identity cards and attempt to use them in various circumstances, such as traffic stops.
citizen tactics date all the way back to the 1970s, while others are brand-new. Sovereign citizen
gurus probably read more statutes and codes than most attorneys or legal scholars, but they do so
for entirely different reasons and in very different ways.
VI. Sovereign Citizen Tactics: Counterfeit Documents and Entities
Sovereign citizens are some of the most brazen counterfeiters around. They create fake license
plates, drivers’ licenses, vehicle registrations, insurance cards, identification cards, and passports.
Even more ambitiously, sovereign citizens have created fictitious financial instruments, such as
“sight drafts” and “bills of exchange;” fictitious countries, colonies, and even Native American
tribes; fictitious law enforcement agencies and more. They are constantly engaged in ways to create
spurious forms of documentation and authority to help them avoid the reach of the actual
government.
One sovereign citizen fad that has been sweeping the country in recent years is the notion of
“diplomatic immunity,” in which sovereigns declare themselves “diplomats” and their homes as
“embassies.” Once they have done so, they will create or procure their own “Diplomatic Agent”
identity cards and attempt to use them in various circumstances, such as traffic stops.
23 November 2011 00:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Since the 1990s, hundreds, possibly thousands, of sovereign citizens have been sent to county jails
or state or federal prisons. Though imprisoned, many of them have seen no need to curtail their
sovereign citizen activities. Some sovereign citizens have continued their paper terrorism tactics
from behind bars, while a number of them have also been teaching the ideology of the sovereign
citizen movement to other prisoners.
As a result, over the last ten years, a wave of prison-based sovereign citizen activity has swept the
country, much of it generated by “traditional” criminals such as drug dealers or thieves, some of
whom have actually become sovereign citizens themselves, with others simply trying some sovereign
citizen tactics because /.../
Amazing as it may seem, especially given that police are among the most common targets of
sovereign citizens, sometimes even current or former law enforcement officers can get lured into the
sovereign citizen movement.
or state or federal prisons. Though imprisoned, many of them have seen no need to curtail their
sovereign citizen activities. Some sovereign citizens have continued their paper terrorism tactics
from behind bars, while a number of them have also been teaching the ideology of the sovereign
citizen movement to other prisoners.
As a result, over the last ten years, a wave of prison-based sovereign citizen activity has swept the
country, much of it generated by “traditional” criminals such as drug dealers or thieves, some of
whom have actually become sovereign citizens themselves, with others simply trying some sovereign
citizen tactics because /.../
Amazing as it may seem, especially given that police are among the most common targets of
sovereign citizens, sometimes even current or former law enforcement officers can get lured into the
sovereign citizen movement.
23 November 2011 00:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
It is among African-Americans, though, that the sovereign citizen movement has really seen growth
over the past 15 years or so, so much so that an entire sub-movement of African-American
sovereign citizens, who often describe themselves as “Moors,” “Moorish,” or “Muurish,” has
developed. The Moorish movement arose in the 1990s in northeastern cities and southeastern rural
areas, which still tend to be its areas of strength. Adherents subscribe to all of the popular
traditional sovereign citizen theories, but have added additional, Afro-centric pseudo-legal theories,
such as the notion that a 1787 treaty between the United States and Morocco gives “Moors” in the
United States special privileges and immunities. Ironically, most Moorish movement members have
no idea that their ideology is descended from an extreme right-wing belief system created in part by
white supremacists (though Moors frequently will cooperate with white sovereign citizens).
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bad... co-operating ... :)
over the past 15 years or so, so much so that an entire sub-movement of African-American
sovereign citizens, who often describe themselves as “Moors,” “Moorish,” or “Muurish,” has
developed. The Moorish movement arose in the 1990s in northeastern cities and southeastern rural
areas, which still tend to be its areas of strength. Adherents subscribe to all of the popular
traditional sovereign citizen theories, but have added additional, Afro-centric pseudo-legal theories,
such as the notion that a 1787 treaty between the United States and Morocco gives “Moors” in the
United States special privileges and immunities. Ironically, most Moorish movement members have
no idea that their ideology is descended from an extreme right-wing belief system created in part by
white supremacists (though Moors frequently will cooperate with white sovereign citizens).
___
bad... co-operating ... :)
23 November 2011 00:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
In addition to these more or less standard ways for extremists to exploit the Internet, sovereign
citizens have used the Internet in less common ways as well. For example, they have taken advantage of the recent emergence of document hosting sites (essentially like YouTube but for PDF
files) to upload thousands of documents, especially templates and examples of various sovereign
citizen paperwork. It is easy in 2010 to find downloadable templates that allow people to declare
themselves sovereign citizens, file bogus liens on perceived enemies, or engage in other harassing or
intimidating letters and filings.
They have also turned to the Internet to try to help solve a perennial problem that sovereign citizens
face: county and state officials refusing to accept and file their bogus documents. Although
unfortunately some county recorder offices and secretary of state offices continue to accept all
sovereign citizen filings, no matter what problems they may cause (sometimes out of ignorance,
sometimes because of state law, but often out of a fear of being sued), a growing number of
governmental recording/filing agencies now refuse to accept such pseudo-legal documents, thus
stymieing the harassing or other intentions of the sovereign citizens trying to file them.
As a result, several on-line entities have emerged to accept sovereign citizen filings as “third party
recording entities.” The National Republic Registry, for example, out of Mansfield, Texas, bills itself
as “YOUR Solution to Hassle Free Public Recording.” GetNotice is a similar site operating from
Fort Collins, Colorado; so too is America’s Public Record, based in Scottsdale, Arizona.
citizens have used the Internet in less common ways as well. For example, they have taken advantage of the recent emergence of document hosting sites (essentially like YouTube but for PDF
files) to upload thousands of documents, especially templates and examples of various sovereign
citizen paperwork. It is easy in 2010 to find downloadable templates that allow people to declare
themselves sovereign citizens, file bogus liens on perceived enemies, or engage in other harassing or
intimidating letters and filings.
They have also turned to the Internet to try to help solve a perennial problem that sovereign citizens
face: county and state officials refusing to accept and file their bogus documents. Although
unfortunately some county recorder offices and secretary of state offices continue to accept all
sovereign citizen filings, no matter what problems they may cause (sometimes out of ignorance,
sometimes because of state law, but often out of a fear of being sued), a growing number of
governmental recording/filing agencies now refuse to accept such pseudo-legal documents, thus
stymieing the harassing or other intentions of the sovereign citizens trying to file them.
As a result, several on-line entities have emerged to accept sovereign citizen filings as “third party
recording entities.” The National Republic Registry, for example, out of Mansfield, Texas, bills itself
as “YOUR Solution to Hassle Free Public Recording.” GetNotice is a similar site operating from
Fort Collins, Colorado; so too is America’s Public Record, based in Scottsdale, Arizona.
23 November 2011 00:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
As is true for most types of extremist movements, the sovereign citizen movement has come to rely
heavily on the Internet for propaganda, recruitment, and funds. The Internet is particularly
important to sovereign citizen gurus, as it gives them an inexpensive and reliable way to introduce
people to their pseudo-legal theories and to promote their seminars and products
From the perspective of rank-and-file or prospective sovereign citizens, the Internet is full of
discussion forums and other venues where sovereign citizens can exchange information about
strategies, their own experiences, their favorite mentors, and more. In the past few years, a number
of sovereign citizens have aggressively exploited the new social media, utilizing social networking
Web sites such as Myspace and Facebook to connect and recruit, and video hosting services like
YouTube to market various gurus and their theories. Sovereign citizen videos in particular are
becoming increasingly common on-line; many gurus will even put up videos of a sample seminar, or
portion of it, to market themselves and their theories.
http://www.suijurisforum.com/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WorldCitizen/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFreeAmericans/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uccredemption/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/guardianknightsllc
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/a4v
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Commercial_Redemption/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TCCU_TRUSTEES_AGENTS
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RedemptionByMethod
http://groups.google.com/group/creditors-in-commerce
& many more
heavily on the Internet for propaganda, recruitment, and funds. The Internet is particularly
important to sovereign citizen gurus, as it gives them an inexpensive and reliable way to introduce
people to their pseudo-legal theories and to promote their seminars and products
From the perspective of rank-and-file or prospective sovereign citizens, the Internet is full of
discussion forums and other venues where sovereign citizens can exchange information about
strategies, their own experiences, their favorite mentors, and more. In the past few years, a number
of sovereign citizens have aggressively exploited the new social media, utilizing social networking
Web sites such as Myspace and Facebook to connect and recruit, and video hosting services like
YouTube to market various gurus and their theories. Sovereign citizen videos in particular are
becoming increasingly common on-line; many gurus will even put up videos of a sample seminar, or
portion of it, to market themselves and their theories.
http://www.suijurisforum.com/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WorldCitizen/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFreeAmericans/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uccredemption/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/guardianknightsllc
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/a4v
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Commercial_Redemption/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TCCU_TRUSTEES_AGENTS
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RedemptionByMethod
http://groups.google.com/group/creditors-in-commerce
& many more
http://www.suijurisforum.com/
23 November 2011 00:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
One recent innovation is an emphasis by a few gurus, notably James Thomas McBride of Ohio, on a
so-called “Three Notary Panel.” This is an expansion of an older sovereign notion that notary
publics actually have extensive powers, of which most people are entirely unaware, using the
“Notary Protest Process.”
so-called “Three Notary Panel.” This is an expansion of an older sovereign notion that notary
publics actually have extensive powers, of which most people are entirely unaware, using the
“Notary Protest Process.”
23 November 2011 00:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
III. Organization of the Sovereign Citizen Movement
The sovereign citizen movement is unusual in that, unlike many other extreme movements, it is not
generally oriented around groups. Though sovereign citizen groups do form, and sometimes certain
types of sovereign citizen groups even become popular for a time, the default structure of the
sovereign citizen movement is that of a large mass of individuals or loosely aligned and informal/ad
hoc groups, led by a number of sovereign citizen “gurus,” who provide leadership and inspiration as
well as new sovereign citizen ideas and tactics.
Since the 1980s, some sovereign citizens have even started their own “law schools.” One of the first
to emerge was the “Barrister’s Inn School of Common Law” out of Boise, Idaho. It no longer
exists, but one of its leaders still runs the eponymous George Gordon School of Law out of Isabella,
Missouri. Other sovereign citizen “law schools” operating today include the Texas-based “Freedom School” and the Minnesota-based “Erwin Rommel School of Common Law.”
David Wynn Miller of Wisconsin (or “PLENIPOTENIARY-JUDGE: David-Wynn: Miller”), have
been prominent gurus for decades. Others, such as Jerry Kane, the man involved in the West
Memphis shootings, are newer to the scene.
Among a few of the other more prominent gurus active today are Winston Shrout, Sam Davis, Sam
Kennedy, Tim Turner, Jean Keating, and Jack Smith; they may hold seminars around the country.
New gurus constantly emerge. One individual, Robert Kelly of Oregon, has long occupied a special
role in the movement, as the publisher of the Americans Bulletin, a bimonthly newspaper that acts
as the “New York Times” of the sovereign citizen movement. Many new sovereign citizen theories
first see print there.
(actually you can find a lot more promotion to different gurus from the .pdf above, will not re-post everything here)
The sovereign citizen movement is unusual in that, unlike many other extreme movements, it is not
generally oriented around groups. Though sovereign citizen groups do form, and sometimes certain
types of sovereign citizen groups even become popular for a time, the default structure of the
sovereign citizen movement is that of a large mass of individuals or loosely aligned and informal/ad
hoc groups, led by a number of sovereign citizen “gurus,” who provide leadership and inspiration as
well as new sovereign citizen ideas and tactics.
Since the 1980s, some sovereign citizens have even started their own “law schools.” One of the first
to emerge was the “Barrister’s Inn School of Common Law” out of Boise, Idaho. It no longer
exists, but one of its leaders still runs the eponymous George Gordon School of Law out of Isabella,
Missouri. Other sovereign citizen “law schools” operating today include the Texas-based “Freedom School” and the Minnesota-based “Erwin Rommel School of Common Law.”
David Wynn Miller of Wisconsin (or “PLENIPOTENIARY-JUDGE: David-Wynn: Miller”), have
been prominent gurus for decades. Others, such as Jerry Kane, the man involved in the West
Memphis shootings, are newer to the scene.
Among a few of the other more prominent gurus active today are Winston Shrout, Sam Davis, Sam
Kennedy, Tim Turner, Jean Keating, and Jack Smith; they may hold seminars around the country.
New gurus constantly emerge. One individual, Robert Kelly of Oregon, has long occupied a special
role in the movement, as the publisher of the Americans Bulletin, a bimonthly newspaper that acts
as the “New York Times” of the sovereign citizen movement. Many new sovereign citizen theories
first see print there.
(actually you can find a lot more promotion to different gurus from the .pdf above, will not re-post everything here)
23 November 2011 00:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
As a result, sovereign citizens eschew taxes, Social Security, and almost all licenses, registrations and
permits.
The result of sovereign citizen ideology is that its adherents believe the government (including police
and the judicial system) has no jurisdiction over them. They can rationalize disobeying or ignoring
virtually any law, major or minor. To give a typical example, in April 2010 in Brush, Colorado, after
several traffic and other violations, David Hemby told the Brush City Council that he wasn’t subject
to city ordinances because he was a “sovereign citizen.” Sovereigns also are attracted to setting up
their own parallel governmental institutions (such as their own courts or grand juries or even law
enforcement agencies) in opposition to those of the “illegitimate” government.
permits.
The result of sovereign citizen ideology is that its adherents believe the government (including police
and the judicial system) has no jurisdiction over them. They can rationalize disobeying or ignoring
virtually any law, major or minor. To give a typical example, in April 2010 in Brush, Colorado, after
several traffic and other violations, David Hemby told the Brush City Council that he wasn’t subject
to city ordinances because he was a “sovereign citizen.” Sovereigns also are attracted to setting up
their own parallel governmental institutions (such as their own courts or grand juries or even law
enforcement agencies) in opposition to those of the “illegitimate” government.
23 November 2011 00:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Sovereign citizens (adherents may also refer to themselves by such terms as “constitutionalists,”
“freemen,” and “state citizens”) make many efforts to separate themselves from the “illegitimate”
government. Some will even renounce their U.S. citizenship (by which they intend only to renounce
any ties with the “illegitimate” government, not the country itself). Very common is for sovereign
citizens to use punctuation in their name—such as commas, colons, and semi-colons—to separate
their first and middle names (their “Christian appellation”) from their last name, which many think is
their “government-given” name. Thus Michigan militia leader Mark Koernke, when he also became
a sovereign citizen, began writing his name as “Mark Gregory,, Koernke.”
Sovereign citizens believe that the “illegitimate government,” largely through the 14th Amendment,
enslaved all Americans by creating a special class of citizenship, “citizens of the United States,”
members of which would have no rights—only whatever privileges the government deigned to grant
them. The government tricked Americans into becoming “citizens of the United States” by offering
them privileges, such as driver’s licenses and Social Security, which were actually hidden contracts
with the government through which Americans unknowingly gave away their sovereignty.
Sovereign citizens believe that Americans can tear up these so-called contracts, regain their
sovereignty and become immune to the “illegitimate” government, which they claim has no
jurisdiction over them.
“freemen,” and “state citizens”) make many efforts to separate themselves from the “illegitimate”
government. Some will even renounce their U.S. citizenship (by which they intend only to renounce
any ties with the “illegitimate” government, not the country itself). Very common is for sovereign
citizens to use punctuation in their name—such as commas, colons, and semi-colons—to separate
their first and middle names (their “Christian appellation”) from their last name, which many think is
their “government-given” name. Thus Michigan militia leader Mark Koernke, when he also became
a sovereign citizen, began writing his name as “Mark Gregory,, Koernke.”
Sovereign citizens believe that the “illegitimate government,” largely through the 14th Amendment,
enslaved all Americans by creating a special class of citizenship, “citizens of the United States,”
members of which would have no rights—only whatever privileges the government deigned to grant
them. The government tricked Americans into becoming “citizens of the United States” by offering
them privileges, such as driver’s licenses and Social Security, which were actually hidden contracts
with the government through which Americans unknowingly gave away their sovereignty.
Sovereign citizens believe that Americans can tear up these so-called contracts, regain their
sovereignty and become immune to the “illegitimate” government, which they claim has no
jurisdiction over them.
23 November 2011 00:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
II. Sovereign Citizen Ideology
The sovereign citizen movement began in the early 1970s with a single group, the Posse Comitatus,
but its ideology did not really mature until the 1980s ... /.../
As it evolved, the sovereign citizen movement developed an ideology centered on a massive
conspiracy theory. Though different sovereign theorists all have their own varying versions of this
conspiracy, including exactly when it started and how it manifested itself, the theories all share the
belief that many years ago an insidious conspiracy infiltrated the U.S. government and subverted it,
slowly replacing parts of the original, legitimate government (often referred to by sovereigns as the
“de jure” government) with an illegitimate, tyrannical government (the “de facto” government).
As a result, sovereign citizens believe that today there are really two governments: the “illegitimate”
government that everyone else thinks is genuine and the original government that existed before the
conspiracy allegedly infiltrated it. They claim allegiance to the original government and disdain the
“illegitimate” one. To them the original government was a utopian minimalist government which
never interfered with the citizenry; in their fantasy history of the United States, they believe that
people followed “God’s laws” rather than “man’s laws.”
The sovereign citizen movement began in the early 1970s with a single group, the Posse Comitatus,
but its ideology did not really mature until the 1980s ... /.../
As it evolved, the sovereign citizen movement developed an ideology centered on a massive
conspiracy theory. Though different sovereign theorists all have their own varying versions of this
conspiracy, including exactly when it started and how it manifested itself, the theories all share the
belief that many years ago an insidious conspiracy infiltrated the U.S. government and subverted it,
slowly replacing parts of the original, legitimate government (often referred to by sovereigns as the
“de jure” government) with an illegitimate, tyrannical government (the “de facto” government).
As a result, sovereign citizens believe that today there are really two governments: the “illegitimate”
government that everyone else thinks is genuine and the original government that existed before the
conspiracy allegedly infiltrated it. They claim allegiance to the original government and disdain the
“illegitimate” one. To them the original government was a utopian minimalist government which
never interfered with the citizenry; in their fantasy history of the United States, they believe that
people followed “God’s laws” rather than “man’s laws.”
23 November 2011 00:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The sovereign citizen movement is
actually larger than its cousin militia movement, and has also engaged in more violent or
confrontational incidents in recent years than militia groups have, yet it has attracted at best a
fraction of the attention.
Part of the reason for this lack of attention is that the ideology of the movement is complicated, its
tactics and activities are unusual, and adherents of the movement typically do not form organized
groups that can draw more attention. Usually, the movement operates “under the radar” of public
attention; even when attention is drawn to the activities, often criminal, of adherents, the media
often does not understand their connection to an organized movement.
actually larger than its cousin militia movement, and has also engaged in more violent or
confrontational incidents in recent years than militia groups have, yet it has attracted at best a
fraction of the attention.
Part of the reason for this lack of attention is that the ideology of the movement is complicated, its
tactics and activities are unusual, and adherents of the movement typically do not form organized
groups that can draw more attention. Usually, the movement operates “under the radar” of public
attention; even when attention is drawn to the activities, often criminal, of adherents, the media
often does not understand their connection to an organized movement.
23 November 2011 00:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
" In the summer of 2010, Americans have witnessed a wave of anti-government sentiment sweeping
the country. In the mainstream, this has manifested itself in ways ranging from the spread of anti-
incumbent electoral trends to the growth of anti-government movements such as the Tea Party
movement.
On the fringes of American society, the growth of anti-government sentiment has helped spawn the
proliferation of extreme anti-government conspiracy theories and the resurgence of anti-government
extremist groups and movements, most noticeably the militia movement, which has grown from 50
groups or so in 2008 to nearly 200 in 2010.
However, there is another anti-government extremist movement that has also grown considerably in
size and activity, though this growth—and, indeed, even the existence of the movement—has largely
escaped public attention. This is the anti-government “sovereign citizen” movement, which has
exhibited a marked increase in activity in the past several years. "
the country. In the mainstream, this has manifested itself in ways ranging from the spread of anti-
incumbent electoral trends to the growth of anti-government movements such as the Tea Party
movement.
On the fringes of American society, the growth of anti-government sentiment has helped spawn the
proliferation of extreme anti-government conspiracy theories and the resurgence of anti-government
extremist groups and movements, most noticeably the militia movement, which has grown from 50
groups or so in 2008 to nearly 200 in 2010.
However, there is another anti-government extremist movement that has also grown considerably in
size and activity, though this growth—and, indeed, even the existence of the movement—has largely
escaped public attention. This is the anti-government “sovereign citizen” movement, which has
exhibited a marked increase in activity in the past several years. "
23 November 2011 00:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The Lawless Ones: The Resurgence of the Sovereign Citizen Movement
Key Findings
• Significant Growth. The sovereign citizen movement is an extreme anti-government movement whose members believe the government has no authority over them. Although its sister movement, the militia movement, has garnered more publicity, the sovereign citizen movement is also growing, is larger than the militia movement, and engages in a much greater amount of criminal activity.
Harassing Liens a Major Problem. More widespread than violence is a set of tactics known as “paper terrorism,” in which sovereign citizens use legal filings to harass,intimidate, and retaliate against public officials, law enforcement officers, and others. Most common is the filing of bogus liens on the property of perceived enemies. Though a number of laws were passed in the 1990s to deal with this problem, sovereign citizens
remain undeterred and continue to file such harassing liens in large numbers.
Infecting Prisons. As a result of imprisoned sovereign citizens continuing to recruit and
teach their ideology while behind bars, a growing number of federal and state prisoners are
becoming sovereign citizens or using the “paper terrorism” tactics of the movement to retaliate against judges, prosecutors and others involved in their case. Prison officials seem to have had little luck in stemming the growth of this movement in prisons.
Growing “Moorish” Movement. Though the sovereign citizen movement is still largely white (and contains some white supremacist members), in recent years a growing African-American offshoot of the sovereign citizen movement, often called the “Moorish” movement, has been gaining strength, teaching sovereign citizen ideas and tactics to a new pool of potential recruits.
Key Findings
• Significant Growth. The sovereign citizen movement is an extreme anti-government movement whose members believe the government has no authority over them. Although its sister movement, the militia movement, has garnered more publicity, the sovereign citizen movement is also growing, is larger than the militia movement, and engages in a much greater amount of criminal activity.
Harassing Liens a Major Problem. More widespread than violence is a set of tactics known as “paper terrorism,” in which sovereign citizens use legal filings to harass,intimidate, and retaliate against public officials, law enforcement officers, and others. Most common is the filing of bogus liens on the property of perceived enemies. Though a number of laws were passed in the 1990s to deal with this problem, sovereign citizens
remain undeterred and continue to file such harassing liens in large numbers.
Infecting Prisons. As a result of imprisoned sovereign citizens continuing to recruit and
teach their ideology while behind bars, a growing number of federal and state prisoners are
becoming sovereign citizens or using the “paper terrorism” tactics of the movement to retaliate against judges, prosecutors and others involved in their case. Prison officials seem to have had little luck in stemming the growth of this movement in prisons.
Growing “Moorish” Movement. Though the sovereign citizen movement is still largely white (and contains some white supremacist members), in recent years a growing African-American offshoot of the sovereign citizen movement, often called the “Moorish” movement, has been gaining strength, teaching sovereign citizen ideas and tactics to a new pool of potential recruits.
23 November 2011 00:00
Margus Meigo commented on Jerry Song's post.
Group: Chinese
Greetings Jerry - this is kind of so hard to understand ower this side of sea here, breaking networks to get access to facebook.
Will you get in to trouble for just communication people by using facebook?22 November 2011 14:54
Margus Meigo commented on Errol Vares's post.
Group: POLIITIKA, RELIGIOON, RAHA
:D Oh neid avastajaid ja kolmnurga joonistajaid :D21 November 2011 05:45
Margus Meigo commented on Micah Daigle's post.
Group: Accelerating Possibilities
or - if you newer risked you newer fullfilled the possible possibilities20 November 2011 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on Rafe Furst's post.
Group: Accelerating Possibilities
Is there any reason not to ?20 November 2011 23:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I think he is much more worth media attenton, i mean hes full lenght talks then most of the stuff what comes from this box, for now :)
19 November 2011 09:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Always :)
So you think it's allright how we have handeled him?
So you think it's allright how we have handeled him?
19 November 2011 08:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
But why you think these guys have similar message to masson ? Where that comes from :)
19 November 2011 07:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Well, it all depends what kind of 8 fresh ones you take www.shroomery .org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator : )
people here have told that around 60 fresh is good for them (semilanceata)
(more exact i think 3-4g tried, 30-40g fresh but only in right setting and with respect, the "level 5" should be seen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_experience )
In right amount you should be able to break free from negativity and see the solutions that are in you as is the negativity that we try to find & define around us
Will keep in contact with you :)
people here have told that around 60 fresh is good for them (semilanceata)
(more exact i think 3-4g tried, 30-40g fresh but only in right setting and with respect, the "level 5" should be seen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_experience )
In right amount you should be able to break free from negativity and see the solutions that are in you as is the negativity that we try to find & define around us
Will keep in contact with you :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_experience
19 November 2011 06:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
He actually sings pretty well, all the lyrics on songs so far have been also worthy, newer know http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgiUSv8Nta4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgiUSv8Nta4
19 November 2011 06:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I mean, we should ba awake, not sleep anyways :P
but what kind of drugs you exactly use in what amounts? As a researcher i am personally internested
but what kind of drugs you exactly use in what amounts? As a researcher i am personally internested
19 November 2011 05:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
what you mean ?
19 November 2011 05:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
bdw Blessed Mountain - on what setting & amounts you usually use Psychedelic ?
19 November 2011 05:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Well, as of now i can't really agree with you jet - maybe your answer is to little about regarding big things he mentioned. I guess i must look hes other interviews also to get better picture.
Ones eyes seemed alright besides good words he was telling (even if they are not truths regarding to hes persona, matters not so much as if we try to look something with made up mind and feelings we might miss the deepness of message). But this is just my personal oppinion - well, as it always might be :)
Ones eyes seemed alright besides good words he was telling (even if they are not truths regarding to hes persona, matters not so much as if we try to look something with made up mind and feelings we might miss the deepness of message). But this is just my personal oppinion - well, as it always might be :)
19 November 2011 05:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Do you also know what he meant by "Beatles were a hole in the infinite, which love poured through" ?
As i have also time by time had rather strange feeling about some actons and history regarding to this group
As i have also time by time had rather strange feeling about some actons and history regarding to this group
19 November 2011 04:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Blessed Mountain - thank you for commenting! :)
So can you please bring out some exact points, video by video on what points you agree and what points you disagree. As you seem to have some more knowledge. Would be really helpful on explaining your feelings expressed in last posts and maybe interesting for many.
He mentioned the swastica also on clip nr 4? i think, what he means by it? So comment about that also besides other things he is telling if you can.
Thanks sister!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATWA
ATWA (an acronym for Air, Trees, Water, Animals and All The Way Alive) stands for the uncompromising ecological mandate propounded by the infamous American convict Charles Manson. ATWA names the interrelated life support systems of the Earth. Charles Manson and his associates, most notably Lynette Fromme and Sandra Good, use the term to name the forces of life which holds the ecological balance of the Earth.
(just for my own record, as all this here is anyway:)
So can you please bring out some exact points, video by video on what points you agree and what points you disagree. As you seem to have some more knowledge. Would be really helpful on explaining your feelings expressed in last posts and maybe interesting for many.
He mentioned the swastica also on clip nr 4? i think, what he means by it? So comment about that also besides other things he is telling if you can.
Thanks sister!
---
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATWA
ATWA (an acronym for Air, Trees, Water, Animals and All The Way Alive) stands for the uncompromising ecological mandate propounded by the infamous American convict Charles Manson. ATWA names the interrelated life support systems of the Earth. Charles Manson and his associates, most notably Lynette Fromme and Sandra Good, use the term to name the forces of life which holds the ecological balance of the Earth.
(just for my own record, as all this here is anyway:)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATWA
19 November 2011 04:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
you don't go back and pick up same Shit, and when you start all over, it means - you start all over
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzr4Z-BfiAw
http://www.askmoses.com/en/article/691,2110256/Plant-Your-Tree-in-Israel.html
(:w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzr4Z-BfiAw
http://www.askmoses.com/en/article/691,2110256/Plant-Your-Tree-in-Israel.html
(:w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzr4Z-BfiAw
19 November 2011 03:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Some people understand the power they have and other people do not understand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n3MxYIRe0k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n3MxYIRe0k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n3MxYIRe0k
19 November 2011 03:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
People who tell a truth generally act likethey are retarded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F237gMLzaOY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F237gMLzaOY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F237gMLzaOY
19 November 2011 03:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
When your Word is Good it's Good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmnHfh4w0Hc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmnHfh4w0Hc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmnHfh4w0Hc
19 November 2011 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"He was found guilty of conspiracy to commit the Tate/LaBianca murders carried out by members of the group at his instruction. He was convicted of the murders through the joint-responsibility rule, which makes each member of a conspiracy guilty of crimes his fellow conspirators commit in furtherance of the conspiracy's object"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJHq2aN9tYE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJHq2aN9tYE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJHq2aN9tYE
19 November 2011 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
! Step 4: Take Us to Your Leader.
Your friends will inevitably ask to see “your leader.” There are two ways to go about this. You could take the aliens to UN headquarters so they can watch all of our leaders bicker and argue over whether or not the aliens in front of them actually exist. This display will most likely lead to the extermination of the entire human race. Option two is to tell your alien friends, “I’m in charge. What do you guys want to talk about?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmHeP9Sve48
Your friends will inevitably ask to see “your leader.” There are two ways to go about this. You could take the aliens to UN headquarters so they can watch all of our leaders bicker and argue over whether or not the aliens in front of them actually exist. This display will most likely lead to the extermination of the entire human race. Option two is to tell your alien friends, “I’m in charge. What do you guys want to talk about?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmHeP9Sve48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmHeP9Sve48
18 November 2011 23:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Instead pull out that iPhone and wow your guests with an enduring ballad of the ages. Journey’s Don’t Stop Believing is an acceptable song. If you do not have it, play Night Ranger’s Sister Christian instead. If you do not have either of these songs, contact me so I can send you alien appropriate music. Remember that radio waves can take quite a while to travel the cosmos, so it’s likely that our space friends are well into the power ballads of the 80s and have no idea who this Rihanna person is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVey-358Vcc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVey-358Vcc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVey-358Vcc
18 November 2011 23:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In the historical documentary, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Mr. Spielberg shows us that aliens can solve inter-species communication issues with music. The scientists were able to “talk” to the aliens with an elaborate musical device that sounded similar to a rooster having sex with a frog in front of a megaphone. You can use music too. Now remember, you’re representing the entire human race so don’t skimp out on the quality. The aliens won’t really be impressed by your harmonica or your ability to belch the alphabet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxrhO3TTvr4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxrhO3TTvr4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxrhO3TTvr4
18 November 2011 23:34
Margus Meigo commented on Arshad Ahmed's post.
Group: Zoroastrianism
Is there worth translation in English ?18 November 2011 00:35
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
I was just setting up iPad2 & Acer tablet for my client today and o boy was this a pain for so many ways. Sad what people manage to do with a great product.
Well, but as they say - take sad song and make it better... :)
Well, but as they say - take sad song and make it better... :)
17 November 2011 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
Why gov does not give them a huge arable where ones can live out their anger in open field - as people did in older times. So strange how they turn in to this kind of attention whores by taking their dangerous private fun to the public streets.
in These open fields could be TV channels, famous commentators, speculators, public supporters, fast food & drink sales, lot's of people would be interested to see this stuff from TV to remember old times ones heard about in History books. We can even have kids corner where they can learn some valuable hints from video games & movies, or just read books and play with them selves (let's keep options open)
This might be wonderful, we can bring in the football fans & all the wannabe and real gangsters + have special shows between special forces between different Nations!
Later we can talk about the winning side around the newspapers as beings who archive something important in the unknown direction of our species evolution!
- if anyone is planning to start to organize this kind of events, let me know, i have a lot of extra ideas for this, it will be Great!
in These open fields could be TV channels, famous commentators, speculators, public supporters, fast food & drink sales, lot's of people would be interested to see this stuff from TV to remember old times ones heard about in History books. We can even have kids corner where they can learn some valuable hints from video games & movies, or just read books and play with them selves (let's keep options open)
This might be wonderful, we can bring in the football fans & all the wannabe and real gangsters + have special shows between special forces between different Nations!
Later we can talk about the winning side around the newspapers as beings who archive something important in the unknown direction of our species evolution!
- if anyone is planning to start to organize this kind of events, let me know, i have a lot of extra ideas for this, it will be Great!
16 November 2011 16:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Well.. trick is with these programs - age does not matter if you are leader OR exeption in the program, or Trainer :)
And it's really easy to write these projects, if one knows how to write europeanese
And it's really easy to write these projects, if one knows how to write europeanese
16 November 2011 16:41
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
Well, these questions was for him, unless you work as hes secretary between this and hes 'afterlife' i will not share :P
16 November 2011 16:38
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
It's kind of strange that Jobs did talk so little about how beneficial LSD was for him. I mean, few times... but what about later years?
Arrgh.. why i wasted so much time and did not get my questions to him before he left from public arena
Also looking some rather bitter sounding replay's that was between Bill and Gates few post ago - strange, one should know better why it's good to do biz like Mic is doing not add fuel to already known public oppinion. imho
Arrgh.. why i wasted so much time and did not get my questions to him before he left from public arena
Also looking some rather bitter sounding replay's that was between Bill and Gates few post ago - strange, one should know better why it's good to do biz like Mic is doing not add fuel to already known public oppinion. imho
16 November 2011 03:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
But sometimes it seems that these possibilities are not used fully, to often people pay to much attention to rules and to little to possibilities
15 November 2011 19:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
So should we start with parents or can how we start with children?
As of now biggest lights to this directions is European Union programs that strongly put emphasis to non-formal learning and trainings by sending people for free (or 30% of travel cost) around the EU & world. Let's hope they keep this programs well funded for days coming when they are most needed.
Some links that might give insight what is possible to do if youth themselves want to be active:
http://eacea.ec.europa.eu/youth/programme/about_youth_en.php
http://www.cev.be/109-eu_funding_opportunities-en.html
http://ec.europa.eu/education/lifelong-learning-programme/doc84_en.htm
http://ec.europa.eu/education/lifelong-learning-policy/doc2441_en.htm
http://youthexchangeestonia.blogspot.com (Charlemagne youth prize laureate)
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/en/pressroom/content/20110530IPR20497/html/Europe-Me-wins-European-Charlemagne-Youth-Prize-2011 (winners)
As of now biggest lights to this directions is European Union programs that strongly put emphasis to non-formal learning and trainings by sending people for free (or 30% of travel cost) around the EU & world. Let's hope they keep this programs well funded for days coming when they are most needed.
Some links that might give insight what is possible to do if youth themselves want to be active:
http://eacea.ec.europa.eu/youth/programme/about_youth_en.php
http://www.cev.be/109-eu_funding_opportunities-en.html
http://ec.europa.eu/education/lifelong-learning-programme/doc84_en.htm
http://ec.europa.eu/education/lifelong-learning-policy/doc2441_en.htm
http://youthexchangeestonia.blogspot.com (Charlemagne youth prize laureate)
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/en/pressroom/content/20110530IPR20497/html/Europe-Me-wins-European-Charlemagne-Youth-Prize-2011 (winners)
http://eacea.ec.europa.eu/youth/programme/about_youth_en.php
15 November 2011 19:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL17F9306232C5777B
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL17F9306232C5777B
15 November 2011 17:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Everything is part of everything, is it not?
15 November 2011 16:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Students should learn to think for themselves and not only repeat others' theories like parrots or chatterboxes. Teachers should struggle to put an end to fear in students. Teachers should allow their students freedom to disagree and healthily criticize, in a constructive manner, all theories that are studied. It is absurd to force them to accept in a dogmatic way, all the theories taught in school, college and university. It is necessary and imperative for students to abandon fear to be able to think for themselves and analyze theories which they study...
When students by their own free and spontaneous initiative, can freely analyze and criticize the theories they study, they will stop being mere subjective and stupid, mechanical entities. It is imperative for free initiative to exist so that the student’s creative intelligence emerges. It is necessary to give to students the freedom of spontaneous creative expression, without any type of conditioning, so that they become conscious of what they study. - Fundamentals of Gnostic Education
When students by their own free and spontaneous initiative, can freely analyze and criticize the theories they study, they will stop being mere subjective and stupid, mechanical entities. It is imperative for free initiative to exist so that the student’s creative intelligence emerges. It is necessary to give to students the freedom of spontaneous creative expression, without any type of conditioning, so that they become conscious of what they study. - Fundamentals of Gnostic Education
15 November 2011 05:41
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http://www.gnosiscentral.com/onlineBooks.php (free pdf's)
http://gnosticbooks.org/about-glorian/bibliography-of-samael-aun-weor
http://gnosticradio.org/lectures/
http://dream-yoga.org/dream-yoga-techniques/
http://www.amazon.com/Samael-Aun-Weor/e/B001JO7XVK/
http://gnosticteachings.org/books-by-samael-aun-weor.html
http://www.belzebuubteachings.com/sacred-texts/ (free books)
http://www.freeonlinebook.net/Others/476648/Samael-Aun-Weor---The-Eternal-Feminine
http://darkbooks.org/pp.php?v=1690884446
http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/120242357/Samael+Aun+Weor?tab=summary
What Books By Samael Aun Weor Are Good To Read?
http://gnostic-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=373
"He did not say that students should burn all but five of his books, nor that they should only study five. There is no documentation for the supposed prohibition of the remainder of his writings, because such a statement was never made by Samael Aun Weor. Many claim to have "letters" or "recordings" but no one else has ever seen them or heard them."
Whatever master or tradition we follow, the mind must keep its openness and freedom, this is its nature. If we force it, the mind will become obstinate and react by rebelling. It is only in freedom that the mind can discipline itself. - The 14th Dalai Lama
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For “those with an ear to hear,” know that “to burn your books” is an esoteric statement referring to the pinnacle of the development of any Master.
All Masters of the Hermetic Art repeat unto us: “Burn your books and whiten the Brass.” This means to overcome the devil. The devil, the reflection of our interior Logoi, was the most sublime creature before we fell into animal generation.
To kill the devil is urgent when one wants to be absorbed by the Inner Logos, when one wishes to become one with the Logos. This means to arise triumphant, to arise victorious, from all the temptations offered by the devil. In other words, to eliminate the ego, to disintegrate all the psychic aggregates that constitute the ego, to reduce to cosmic dust all the memories, even the knowledge of desire, etc., etc.
This is the manner, how anyone can achieve the sacred individuality, by being completely free of the process of desire. "To burn your books" means to destroy the Teleoghinooras records and other inhuman psychological principles, to extirpate from our psyche even the most intimate memories of desire.
The Brass must be whitened.
Lucifer will convert us into Archangels, if we perform the Mystery of Baphomet within ourselves.
Burn your books and whiten the brass. Whiten the devil. Convert him into Lucifer. One whitens the devil when one transmutes the sexual energy and eliminates the ego.
People have their Lucifer converted into a devil. When shining Lucifer integrates with the human being, then he converts us into Archangels of Light.
Within the completely Christified Adept, that Light is of 8,700 myriad forms; you know this. Only those who have worked with Lucifer in the infernos can reach or possess such Light.
Lo and behold, the mystery of Baphomet and Abraxas. Light is born from darkness, and the Cosmos sprouts from the Chaos.
Burn your books and whiten the brass. We must burn our psychological rubbish (desire) so that Christ can create through us as Elohim. The Elohim create by means of the Word. - Collected from the writings of Samael Aun Weor "
Once more:
"My dear friends, now and forever, I renounce, have renounced and will go on renouncing copyrights. My only wish is that these books be sold at low price, affordable to the poor, affordable to all the children of God. I wish that even the poorest, most destitute citizen be able to obtain these books with the few pennies he carries in his pocket. In fact, I do not have any income; I do not demand anything in exchange for my works. Whosoever wants to publish them, let him publish for the benefit of diseased mankind. — Samael Aun Weor "
http://gnosticbooks.org/about-glorian/bibliography-of-samael-aun-weor
http://gnosticradio.org/lectures/
http://dream-yoga.org/dream-yoga-techniques/
http://www.amazon.com/Samael-Aun-Weor/e/B001JO7XVK/
http://gnosticteachings.org/books-by-samael-aun-weor.html
http://www.belzebuubteachings.com/sacred-texts/ (free books)
http://www.freeonlinebook.net/Others/476648/Samael-Aun-Weor---The-Eternal-Feminine
http://darkbooks.org/pp.php?v=1690884446
http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/120242357/Samael+Aun+Weor?tab=summary
What Books By Samael Aun Weor Are Good To Read?
http://gnostic-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=373
"He did not say that students should burn all but five of his books, nor that they should only study five. There is no documentation for the supposed prohibition of the remainder of his writings, because such a statement was never made by Samael Aun Weor. Many claim to have "letters" or "recordings" but no one else has ever seen them or heard them."
Whatever master or tradition we follow, the mind must keep its openness and freedom, this is its nature. If we force it, the mind will become obstinate and react by rebelling. It is only in freedom that the mind can discipline itself. - The 14th Dalai Lama
"
For “those with an ear to hear,” know that “to burn your books” is an esoteric statement referring to the pinnacle of the development of any Master.
All Masters of the Hermetic Art repeat unto us: “Burn your books and whiten the Brass.” This means to overcome the devil. The devil, the reflection of our interior Logoi, was the most sublime creature before we fell into animal generation.
To kill the devil is urgent when one wants to be absorbed by the Inner Logos, when one wishes to become one with the Logos. This means to arise triumphant, to arise victorious, from all the temptations offered by the devil. In other words, to eliminate the ego, to disintegrate all the psychic aggregates that constitute the ego, to reduce to cosmic dust all the memories, even the knowledge of desire, etc., etc.
This is the manner, how anyone can achieve the sacred individuality, by being completely free of the process of desire. "To burn your books" means to destroy the Teleoghinooras records and other inhuman psychological principles, to extirpate from our psyche even the most intimate memories of desire.
The Brass must be whitened.
Lucifer will convert us into Archangels, if we perform the Mystery of Baphomet within ourselves.
Burn your books and whiten the brass. Whiten the devil. Convert him into Lucifer. One whitens the devil when one transmutes the sexual energy and eliminates the ego.
People have their Lucifer converted into a devil. When shining Lucifer integrates with the human being, then he converts us into Archangels of Light.
Within the completely Christified Adept, that Light is of 8,700 myriad forms; you know this. Only those who have worked with Lucifer in the infernos can reach or possess such Light.
Lo and behold, the mystery of Baphomet and Abraxas. Light is born from darkness, and the Cosmos sprouts from the Chaos.
Burn your books and whiten the brass. We must burn our psychological rubbish (desire) so that Christ can create through us as Elohim. The Elohim create by means of the Word. - Collected from the writings of Samael Aun Weor "
Once more:
"My dear friends, now and forever, I renounce, have renounced and will go on renouncing copyrights. My only wish is that these books be sold at low price, affordable to the poor, affordable to all the children of God. I wish that even the poorest, most destitute citizen be able to obtain these books with the few pennies he carries in his pocket. In fact, I do not have any income; I do not demand anything in exchange for my works. Whosoever wants to publish them, let him publish for the benefit of diseased mankind. — Samael Aun Weor "
http://www.gnosiscentral.com/onlineBooks.php
15 November 2011 05:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Three Centers and Three Traitors
The three centers are directly related to the Trinity, Trimurti, or threefold-ness of creation, the intellect being related to the Father (Kether, Affirmation, Positive), the emotion related to the Son, (Chokmah, Denial, Negation), and the sexual center related to the Holy Spirit (Binah, Reconcile, Neutral). The primary energy of the intellectual brain (Father) is the air, which is then placed in the bloodstream which is related to the emotional brain (Son), and lastly the final condensation of blood is found in the semen or sexual hormones, which is directly related to the Holy Spirit: that which impregnates or manifests creation, Shakti, etc.[66][67]
Samael Aun Weor teaches that psychological aggregates form in one of these three centers; therefore, it is said that there are three fundamental defects: the demon of the mind related to the intellectual center, the demon of desire related to the emotional center, and the demon of evil will related to the motor-instinctual-sexual center. They are collectively referred to as the "Three Traitors", and many references to religion are found that are held to symbolize them, for example: Judas (desire), Pilate (intellect), and Caiaphas (will) who crucify Jesus; Jubela, Jubelo, and Jubelum who murder Hiram Abiff ;[68] Seth, whose homosexual inclinations and actions are well known,[69] in the form of the serpent Apophis and its two monstrous helpers Sebau and Nak [70][71]murders Osiris;[72] the three furies who attack Orestes; the three daughters of Mara who attack Buddha and who are conquered through right Thinking (Intellectual Center), right Feeling (Emotional Center), and right Action (Motor-Instinctual-Sexual Center) (see Noble Eightfold Path)
The three centers are directly related to the Trinity, Trimurti, or threefold-ness of creation, the intellect being related to the Father (Kether, Affirmation, Positive), the emotion related to the Son, (Chokmah, Denial, Negation), and the sexual center related to the Holy Spirit (Binah, Reconcile, Neutral). The primary energy of the intellectual brain (Father) is the air, which is then placed in the bloodstream which is related to the emotional brain (Son), and lastly the final condensation of blood is found in the semen or sexual hormones, which is directly related to the Holy Spirit: that which impregnates or manifests creation, Shakti, etc.[66][67]
Samael Aun Weor teaches that psychological aggregates form in one of these three centers; therefore, it is said that there are three fundamental defects: the demon of the mind related to the intellectual center, the demon of desire related to the emotional center, and the demon of evil will related to the motor-instinctual-sexual center. They are collectively referred to as the "Three Traitors", and many references to religion are found that are held to symbolize them, for example: Judas (desire), Pilate (intellect), and Caiaphas (will) who crucify Jesus; Jubela, Jubelo, and Jubelum who murder Hiram Abiff ;[68] Seth, whose homosexual inclinations and actions are well known,[69] in the form of the serpent Apophis and its two monstrous helpers Sebau and Nak [70][71]murders Osiris;[72] the three furies who attack Orestes; the three daughters of Mara who attack Buddha and who are conquered through right Thinking (Intellectual Center), right Feeling (Emotional Center), and right Action (Motor-Instinctual-Sexual Center) (see Noble Eightfold Path)
15 November 2011 05:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
In his works, Occult Medicine and Practical Magic, Igneous Rose and others, Samael Aun Weor taught about elemental magic. In the former work he expressed his opposition to the medicine of modern science, allopathy, and called for the Gnostics to learn the ways of Indigenous and Elemental Medicine.
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In many books Samael Aun Weor wrote about the "Final Catastrophe" or Apocalypse.[98] His work The Aquarian Message is a commentary on the Book of Revelation, which affirms the notion that present civilization will end and a future one will emerge. Only those souls who remove their ego in the present time will avoid the Second Death and re-transmigrations. A specific date is never given, only that this civilization is in the twilight of its existence.
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Samael Aun Weor wrote about the social problems of society in the books The Social Christ and The Social Transformation of Humanity.[99] The book goes on to explain a solution to the political problems involving a change in everyone's psychology. All political systems, Samael states, are a reflection of our own psychology. In order therefore to deal with such problems, Master Samael Aun Weor formed a political party called 'POSCLA', The Christian Socialist Party of Latin America. The motto of POSCLA was "Live and Let Live".
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In many books Samael Aun Weor wrote about the "Final Catastrophe" or Apocalypse.[98] His work The Aquarian Message is a commentary on the Book of Revelation, which affirms the notion that present civilization will end and a future one will emerge. Only those souls who remove their ego in the present time will avoid the Second Death and re-transmigrations. A specific date is never given, only that this civilization is in the twilight of its existence.
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Samael Aun Weor wrote about the social problems of society in the books The Social Christ and The Social Transformation of Humanity.[99] The book goes on to explain a solution to the political problems involving a change in everyone's psychology. All political systems, Samael states, are a reflection of our own psychology. In order therefore to deal with such problems, Master Samael Aun Weor formed a political party called 'POSCLA', The Christian Socialist Party of Latin America. The motto of POSCLA was "Live and Let Live".
15 November 2011 05:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Christ is viewed as the savior but not as traditionally understood by contemporary Christianity. Instead, Christ is an impersonal force or intelligence that emanates from the Absolute as the Trinity and is also referred to as the Cosmic Christ. Christ is said to be before Jesus, and is represented in different traditions with names such as Thoth, Ormuz, Ahura Mazda, Osiris, Zeus, Jupiter, Quetzalcoatl, Okidanokh, Kulkulcan, Chrestos, Baldur, and Avalokitesvara. It is held that Christ enters into and exalts any individual who is properly prepared, which denotes the complete annihilation of the ego
It is said that in history Christ incarnated in Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, Krishna, Moses, Padmasambhava, John the Baptist, Milarepa, Mahavatar Babaji, Joan of Arc, Fu Xi, Ramakrishna as well as many others now forgotten by time e. g. Zanoni
It is important to notice that some of these individuals represent Christ as an impersonal force, e. g. Jesus, meaning that although he was an individual Christ, he taught the doctrine of the Cosmic Christ, intentionally molding his physical life after the psychological processes that one undergoes to incarnate the Christ.[92] As with Buddha, Jesus is seen as a Bodhisattva who came to help humanity. Jesus is viewed as the Savior of the World because he is a Paramarthasatya (an inhabitant of the Absolute) that physically incarnated specifically for the sake of poor suffering humanity. According to Samael Aun Weor, Jesus purposefully played out physically the internal or psychological struggle one must undergo in the path of Self-Realization; thus, the Gospels are a mixture of reality and kabbalistic, initiatic symbolism.[93] [94][95] According to Samael Aun Weor, there is the historic Christ as depicted in Christian Churches; then, there is the Christ of Transubstantiation to be known exclusively through the Gnostic Church; and finally, there is the Apocalyptic Christ who is to come with the New Jerusalem, after the Great Cataclysm that will consume the world
It is said that in history Christ incarnated in Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, Krishna, Moses, Padmasambhava, John the Baptist, Milarepa, Mahavatar Babaji, Joan of Arc, Fu Xi, Ramakrishna as well as many others now forgotten by time e. g. Zanoni
It is important to notice that some of these individuals represent Christ as an impersonal force, e. g. Jesus, meaning that although he was an individual Christ, he taught the doctrine of the Cosmic Christ, intentionally molding his physical life after the psychological processes that one undergoes to incarnate the Christ.[92] As with Buddha, Jesus is seen as a Bodhisattva who came to help humanity. Jesus is viewed as the Savior of the World because he is a Paramarthasatya (an inhabitant of the Absolute) that physically incarnated specifically for the sake of poor suffering humanity. According to Samael Aun Weor, Jesus purposefully played out physically the internal or psychological struggle one must undergo in the path of Self-Realization; thus, the Gospels are a mixture of reality and kabbalistic, initiatic symbolism.[93] [94][95] According to Samael Aun Weor, there is the historic Christ as depicted in Christian Churches; then, there is the Christ of Transubstantiation to be known exclusively through the Gnostic Church; and finally, there is the Apocalyptic Christ who is to come with the New Jerusalem, after the Great Cataclysm that will consume the world
15 November 2011 05:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
We understand people of normal sexuality to be those who have no sexual conflicts of any kind. Sexual energy is divided into three distinct types. First: the energy having to do with the reproduction of the race and the health of the physical body in general. Second: the energy having to do with the spheres of thought, feeling and will. Third: the energy that is found related with the Divine Spirit of man.
Indeed, sexual energy is without a doubt the most subtle and powerful energy normally produced and transported through the human organism. Everything that a human being is, including the three spheres of thought, feeling and will, is none other than the exact outcome of distinct modifications of sexual energy.[63]
—Samael Aun Weor, Normal Sexuality
The topic of sexuality is approached from a very stern point of view, and it is indeed the crux of Samael Aun Weor’s entire message. He states that there are three fundamental types of sexuality: suprasexuality, which is the sexual functioning of someone like Buddha or Jesus, who naturally transmutes all their energy perfectly; normal sexuality, which is defined as those who have no sexual conflict of any kind whatsoever and who transmute their sexual energy or use it to procreate the species; finally, the two spheres of infrasexuality, as described in the Kabbalistic texts: Nahemah's sphere of influence which includes fornication, adultery and prostitution and Lilith's sphere of influence, a category which includes homosexuality, masturbation, abortion, bestiality, sado-masochism and any other "abuse" of the sexual energy.[84] In response to his supposedly harsh views towards sex (especially for a "New Age" teacher), he wrote:
Many hypocritical Pharisees hate us because we are not complaisant with whoredom, because we condemn crime, yet they state that this is why we hate. This is how they imprecisely judge us. What happens is that all of those hypocritical Pharisees from Spiritualism, Theosophism, Rosicrucianism, Aquarianism, etc., yearn for a sanctimonious mastery where masters are complaisant with crime; a type of spiritual whore-master who, complaisant with crime, goes around from lodge to lodge, from school to school, from sect to sect. This is why we, those who truly love humanity, are hated by hypocritical Pharisees.[85]
—Samael Aun Weor, The Major Mysteries
The "birth" of the solar bodies is what Samael Aun Weor states is the true meaning of being "born again." It is taught that the solar bodies are referred to in the Bible as the three sons of Noah or the three Christians in the (alchemical) furnace of Nebuchadnezzar
Indeed, sexual energy is without a doubt the most subtle and powerful energy normally produced and transported through the human organism. Everything that a human being is, including the three spheres of thought, feeling and will, is none other than the exact outcome of distinct modifications of sexual energy.[63]
—Samael Aun Weor, Normal Sexuality
The topic of sexuality is approached from a very stern point of view, and it is indeed the crux of Samael Aun Weor’s entire message. He states that there are three fundamental types of sexuality: suprasexuality, which is the sexual functioning of someone like Buddha or Jesus, who naturally transmutes all their energy perfectly; normal sexuality, which is defined as those who have no sexual conflict of any kind whatsoever and who transmute their sexual energy or use it to procreate the species; finally, the two spheres of infrasexuality, as described in the Kabbalistic texts: Nahemah's sphere of influence which includes fornication, adultery and prostitution and Lilith's sphere of influence, a category which includes homosexuality, masturbation, abortion, bestiality, sado-masochism and any other "abuse" of the sexual energy.[84] In response to his supposedly harsh views towards sex (especially for a "New Age" teacher), he wrote:
Many hypocritical Pharisees hate us because we are not complaisant with whoredom, because we condemn crime, yet they state that this is why we hate. This is how they imprecisely judge us. What happens is that all of those hypocritical Pharisees from Spiritualism, Theosophism, Rosicrucianism, Aquarianism, etc., yearn for a sanctimonious mastery where masters are complaisant with crime; a type of spiritual whore-master who, complaisant with crime, goes around from lodge to lodge, from school to school, from sect to sect. This is why we, those who truly love humanity, are hated by hypocritical Pharisees.[85]
—Samael Aun Weor, The Major Mysteries
The "birth" of the solar bodies is what Samael Aun Weor states is the true meaning of being "born again." It is taught that the solar bodies are referred to in the Bible as the three sons of Noah or the three Christians in the (alchemical) furnace of Nebuchadnezzar
15 November 2011 05:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Nevertheless, if one understands their core values, all religions naturally support each other. It is stated that any authentic religion possess what are called "The Three Factors of the Revolution of the Consciousness," which are practical aspects of daily life:
Birth: Giving birth to the superior potential of the soul, which is done through chastity and sexual transmutation.
Death: The psychological work of eliminating the ego.
Sacrifice: To work to aid suffering humanity "without desiring the fruits of action, without desiring reward; pure, sincere, disinterested sacrifice, giving one’s life in order for others to live, and without asking for anything in return."
A teaching that is missing any one of these components is considered incomplete or degenerate.
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" The purpose of the psychological work is to dissolve all the psychological aggregates one has accumulated. The term "psychological or mystical death" is often used to describe the process one must undergo in order to reach liberation.[53]"Psychological aggregates" are commonly known simply as aggregates in Buddhism, yet it is taught that other religions[54] used a more veiled or less sophisticated method to describe them, such as: the Legion of Satan that Jesus is described as removing from a man in Mark 5 in one of the alleged Miracles of Jesus;[55] overcoming the tortures of the 49 Self-willed demons of Yaldabaoth written in the Pistis Sophia; the killing of the "unbelievers" in Islam; Moses escaping the tyranny of the Egyptians;[56] Arjuna fighting against his own blood (the ego);[57] the demons of Seth[58] that attack Osiris;[59] Jesus throwing the merchants out of the temple;[60] the archetypal death and resurrection of the "Solar Hero" exemplified in the stories of Jesus and Osiris; the descent to Dante's Inferno (representing our unconsciousness) or Paradise Lost's Pandemonium in order to accomplish a great task, such as those performed by Hercules or Orpheus; the archetypal Dragon (ego) that must be slayed by the Knight, etc.[7] Samael Aun Weor states that this specific paradigm is called "The Doctrine of the Many" and has been taught in esoteric schools and religions since the beginning of time.[61] The anatomy of the pluralized self being the divine spark imprisoned within hundreds of psychological aggregates. "
Birth: Giving birth to the superior potential of the soul, which is done through chastity and sexual transmutation.
Death: The psychological work of eliminating the ego.
Sacrifice: To work to aid suffering humanity "without desiring the fruits of action, without desiring reward; pure, sincere, disinterested sacrifice, giving one’s life in order for others to live, and without asking for anything in return."
A teaching that is missing any one of these components is considered incomplete or degenerate.
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" The purpose of the psychological work is to dissolve all the psychological aggregates one has accumulated. The term "psychological or mystical death" is often used to describe the process one must undergo in order to reach liberation.[53]"Psychological aggregates" are commonly known simply as aggregates in Buddhism, yet it is taught that other religions[54] used a more veiled or less sophisticated method to describe them, such as: the Legion of Satan that Jesus is described as removing from a man in Mark 5 in one of the alleged Miracles of Jesus;[55] overcoming the tortures of the 49 Self-willed demons of Yaldabaoth written in the Pistis Sophia; the killing of the "unbelievers" in Islam; Moses escaping the tyranny of the Egyptians;[56] Arjuna fighting against his own blood (the ego);[57] the demons of Seth[58] that attack Osiris;[59] Jesus throwing the merchants out of the temple;[60] the archetypal death and resurrection of the "Solar Hero" exemplified in the stories of Jesus and Osiris; the descent to Dante's Inferno (representing our unconsciousness) or Paradise Lost's Pandemonium in order to accomplish a great task, such as those performed by Hercules or Orpheus; the archetypal Dragon (ego) that must be slayed by the Knight, etc.[7] Samael Aun Weor states that this specific paradigm is called "The Doctrine of the Many" and has been taught in esoteric schools and religions since the beginning of time.[61] The anatomy of the pluralized self being the divine spark imprisoned within hundreds of psychological aggregates. "
15 November 2011 04:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
"a science of consciousness or knowledge that may be attained through certain techniques"
I, Samael, am not in need of henchmen or followers, but only imitators of my doctrine: Gnosis. I do not follow anyone, nor do I want anyone to follow me. What I want is for each one of you to follow his own Self. I am only a lighthouse in the sea of existence, and I do not need clientele in order to subsist. Since I am against the slavery of souls, I do not want to enslave any soul, nor do I agree with executioners of ideals. Masters exists in abundance, and I am only one of many; thus, those who want to find the Masters will find them inside, within the profundities of their own inner consciousness.
—Samael Aun Weor, Inside the Vestibule of Wisdom
Although he never formally received any income from his works - he lived off the charity of his students - at the 1976 International Gnostic Congress Samael Aun Weor he clarified his stance on the copyright of his works by stating:
Now, my dear friends, and forever, I renounce, have renounced and will go on renouncing copyrights. My only wish is that these books be sold at a low price, affordable to the poor, affordable to all the children of God. I wish that even the poorest, most destitue citizen be able to obtain these books with the few pennies he carries in his pocket... Whosoever wants to publish them let him publish, for the benefit of diseased mankind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael_Aun_Weor
(Hebrew: סמאל און ואור)(March 6, 1917 – December 24, 1977), born Víctor Manuel Gómez Rodríguez, Colombian citizen and later Mexican, was an author, lecturer and founder of the 'Universal Christian Gnostic Movement
I, Samael, am not in need of henchmen or followers, but only imitators of my doctrine: Gnosis. I do not follow anyone, nor do I want anyone to follow me. What I want is for each one of you to follow his own Self. I am only a lighthouse in the sea of existence, and I do not need clientele in order to subsist. Since I am against the slavery of souls, I do not want to enslave any soul, nor do I agree with executioners of ideals. Masters exists in abundance, and I am only one of many; thus, those who want to find the Masters will find them inside, within the profundities of their own inner consciousness.
—Samael Aun Weor, Inside the Vestibule of Wisdom
Although he never formally received any income from his works - he lived off the charity of his students - at the 1976 International Gnostic Congress Samael Aun Weor he clarified his stance on the copyright of his works by stating:
Now, my dear friends, and forever, I renounce, have renounced and will go on renouncing copyrights. My only wish is that these books be sold at a low price, affordable to the poor, affordable to all the children of God. I wish that even the poorest, most destitue citizen be able to obtain these books with the few pennies he carries in his pocket... Whosoever wants to publish them let him publish, for the benefit of diseased mankind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael_Aun_Weor
(Hebrew: סמאל און ואור)(March 6, 1917 – December 24, 1977), born Víctor Manuel Gómez Rodríguez, Colombian citizen and later Mexican, was an author, lecturer and founder of the 'Universal Christian Gnostic Movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael_Aun_Weor
15 November 2011 04:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Authentic initiation is widely present in modern culture, including art, literature, spirituality, and popular culture, but is not integrated into the official culture; for example, the song “Help!” written by John Lennon, the album Ride the Lightning by Metallica, and the Matrix movie series.
Freedom for Higher-Order Religion
Lower-order religion is derivative, limited to mundane conduct-of-life doctrine suited for the ordinary state of consciousness. The higher-order version of each religion involves transformation of personal control-agency concepts; revelation about control-system limits and dependence on the transcendent; and re-attribution of the origin of one’s will and thoughts.
The essence of religious freedom is specifically the freedom to reliably access mystic-state consciousness, as in early, house-church Eucharistic agape meals, the ancient banqueting tradition, the mystery religions, and symposium “drinking-party” associations. All of these mainstream cultural practices utilized mixtures containing visionary plants as their central sacrament.
Suppressing entheogens because of their danger amounts to a blanket illegalization of higher-order religion and primary religious experiencing. As long as modern culture forbids itself the true, ergonomic Eucharist, legislating against the entheogen-based ecstatic heart of religion, religious freedom is restricted to selecting among various brands of lower-order religion; higher-order religion is placed off-limits, out of reach.
The ever-expanding drug schedules directly conflict with the only kind of religious freedom that amounts to specifically religious freedom; that is, freedom to regularly and ergonomically access primary religious experiencing. The system of schedules is not from God, but is an invention that ignores the central role of visionary plants in religion, multi-state cognitive psychology, and the innate human drive to self-transcendence.
http://www.egodeath.com/#Radical_Critics
http://www.egodeath.com/EntheogenTheoryOfReligion.htm
Freedom for Higher-Order Religion
Lower-order religion is derivative, limited to mundane conduct-of-life doctrine suited for the ordinary state of consciousness. The higher-order version of each religion involves transformation of personal control-agency concepts; revelation about control-system limits and dependence on the transcendent; and re-attribution of the origin of one’s will and thoughts.
The essence of religious freedom is specifically the freedom to reliably access mystic-state consciousness, as in early, house-church Eucharistic agape meals, the ancient banqueting tradition, the mystery religions, and symposium “drinking-party” associations. All of these mainstream cultural practices utilized mixtures containing visionary plants as their central sacrament.
Suppressing entheogens because of their danger amounts to a blanket illegalization of higher-order religion and primary religious experiencing. As long as modern culture forbids itself the true, ergonomic Eucharist, legislating against the entheogen-based ecstatic heart of religion, religious freedom is restricted to selecting among various brands of lower-order religion; higher-order religion is placed off-limits, out of reach.
The ever-expanding drug schedules directly conflict with the only kind of religious freedom that amounts to specifically religious freedom; that is, freedom to regularly and ergonomically access primary religious experiencing. The system of schedules is not from God, but is an invention that ignores the central role of visionary plants in religion, multi-state cognitive psychology, and the innate human drive to self-transcendence.
http://www.egodeath.com/#Radical_Critics
http://www.egodeath.com/EntheogenTheoryOfReligion.htm
http://www.egodeath.com/#Radical_Critics
13 November 2011 21:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
What are his climbing tools?
"FIRST, Eisenman considers a much wider range of historical sources than most think they need to. He plumbs, as we have come to expect, the Dead Sea Scrolls, as well as the Clementine Recognitions and Homilies, the Apostolic Constitutions, Eusebius, the two James Apocalypses from Nag Hammadi, even the Western Text of Acts and the Slavonic Josephus. And Eisenman takes Josephus much more seriously as a source for Luke's Acts than anyone ever has before. All these our author carefully sifts, taking nothing uncritically ..."
"Second, Eisenman has developed a keen sense for the "name game" played in the sources. Most of us have sometime scratched our heads over the tantalizing confusions latent in the strange redundancy of similar names in the New Testament accounts. How can Mary have had a sister named Mary? Is there a difference between Joseph Barsabbas Justus, Judas Barsabbas Justus, Jesus Justus, Titius Justus, and James the Just? Whence all the Jameses and Judases? Who are Simon the Zealot and Judas the Zealot (who appears in some NT manuscripts and other early Christian documents)? Is Clopas the same as Cleophas? What's going on with Jesus ben-Ananias, Jesus Barabbas, Elymas bar-Jesus, and Jesus Justus? What does Boanerges really mean? Is Nathaniel a nickname for someone else we know of? And so on, and so on. Most of us puzzle over these oddities for a moment—and then move on. After all, how important can they be, anyway? Eisenman does not move on till he has figured it out.."
" ... Eisenman has worked out a complex and coherent grammar of these processes of what Derrida would call "slippage along the chain of signifiers." His theory of the doubling of characters and names here is close to that of Rene Girard, a spontaneous methodological parallel (see my article, "In the Beginning Was the Deed: A Neo-Girardian Approach to the Passion Narrative," Forum, 9 [September/December, 1993], 257-303). Eisenman ends up with a much-reduced circle of "the Twelve," most of them being aliases and replacements for the brothers of Jesus. This will outrage some, but other readers will find the theory ringing true against the otherwise odd fact that the Twelve are such shadowy non-entities in the New Testament.
Third, Eisenman brings to bear on the narratives of Acts the model of a.."
http://depts.drew.edu/jhc/RPeisenman.html
"FIRST, Eisenman considers a much wider range of historical sources than most think they need to. He plumbs, as we have come to expect, the Dead Sea Scrolls, as well as the Clementine Recognitions and Homilies, the Apostolic Constitutions, Eusebius, the two James Apocalypses from Nag Hammadi, even the Western Text of Acts and the Slavonic Josephus. And Eisenman takes Josephus much more seriously as a source for Luke's Acts than anyone ever has before. All these our author carefully sifts, taking nothing uncritically ..."
"Second, Eisenman has developed a keen sense for the "name game" played in the sources. Most of us have sometime scratched our heads over the tantalizing confusions latent in the strange redundancy of similar names in the New Testament accounts. How can Mary have had a sister named Mary? Is there a difference between Joseph Barsabbas Justus, Judas Barsabbas Justus, Jesus Justus, Titius Justus, and James the Just? Whence all the Jameses and Judases? Who are Simon the Zealot and Judas the Zealot (who appears in some NT manuscripts and other early Christian documents)? Is Clopas the same as Cleophas? What's going on with Jesus ben-Ananias, Jesus Barabbas, Elymas bar-Jesus, and Jesus Justus? What does Boanerges really mean? Is Nathaniel a nickname for someone else we know of? And so on, and so on. Most of us puzzle over these oddities for a moment—and then move on. After all, how important can they be, anyway? Eisenman does not move on till he has figured it out.."
" ... Eisenman has worked out a complex and coherent grammar of these processes of what Derrida would call "slippage along the chain of signifiers." His theory of the doubling of characters and names here is close to that of Rene Girard, a spontaneous methodological parallel (see my article, "In the Beginning Was the Deed: A Neo-Girardian Approach to the Passion Narrative," Forum, 9 [September/December, 1993], 257-303). Eisenman ends up with a much-reduced circle of "the Twelve," most of them being aliases and replacements for the brothers of Jesus. This will outrage some, but other readers will find the theory ringing true against the otherwise odd fact that the Twelve are such shadowy non-entities in the New Testament.
Third, Eisenman brings to bear on the narratives of Acts the model of a.."
http://depts.drew.edu/jhc/RPeisenman.html
http://depts.drew.edu/jhc/RPeisenman.html
13 November 2011 21:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Samas mõtlesin, et kui paljudes kultuurides ei ole sellist konsepti nagu sünnipäev ja kust see tuli üleüldse, miks seda pidama hakati?
Kas tõsi vist, et vanemate uskumuste järgi selle päeva tarvis pidid sõbrad ja pere sünnipäevalapse ümber olema selleks, et kaitsta viimast vaimude eest kes just tollel päeval pidid eriti ohtralt viimast külastama?
mis tänapäeval on tõlgendatud paljude poolt kui "päev kus kõik külla kutsuda, et koos ennast alkoholist pimedaks kaanida suure lärmi saatel"
Kuid mis on sünnipäevade ebaolulisus ?
Kas tõsi vist, et vanemate uskumuste järgi selle päeva tarvis pidid sõbrad ja pere sünnipäevalapse ümber olema selleks, et kaitsta viimast vaimude eest kes just tollel päeval pidid eriti ohtralt viimast külastama?
mis tänapäeval on tõlgendatud paljude poolt kui "päev kus kõik külla kutsuda, et koos ennast alkoholist pimedaks kaanida suure lärmi saatel"
Kuid mis on sünnipäevade ebaolulisus ?
12 November 2011 16:47
Margus Meigo commented on Lance Okamoto's photo.
lol @ Niki,
But it's so true, so sad when man's in this world are so insecure and unmanly that can not hug other man with deep affection, even if one has no clothing on ;)
But it's so true, so sad when man's in this world are so insecure and unmanly that can not hug other man with deep affection, even if one has no clothing on ;)
12 November 2011 16:44
Margus Meigo commented on Lance Okamoto's photo.
17 has always been my lucky number also! :)
12 November 2011 16:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Edasi antud :)
12 November 2011 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
Allar ma pole jõudnud siiani vaadata seda tegelt, millest seal lühidalt juttu un? Millised on olulisemad punktid :)
12 November 2011 16:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Palju õnne : ))
12 November 2011 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
vana-kalamaja 36
tel 564 79 30 ;)
tel 564 79 30 ;)
12 November 2011 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(: targiem*
11 November 2011 16:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kalamaja is a subdistrict of the district of Põhja-Tallinn (Northern Tallinn) in Tallinn, the capital of Estonia. It has a population of 7,812 (2008). Kalamaja's former German name until 1918 was Fischermay, also spelled Fischermai.
Kalamaja was the location of the oldest cemetery in Tallinn, known as Kalamaja cemetery (in Estonian: Kalamaja kalmistu; in German: Fischermay Kirchhof) which was founded in the 15th or 16th century. The cemetery was flattened in 1964, during the second occupation of the Baltic states, by Russian Soviet authorities who used the area of Kalamaja as a base for the Soviet Armed Forces.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kalamaja/108092169219144
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalamaja
http://kalamaja.info/en.html
Kalamaja was the location of the oldest cemetery in Tallinn, known as Kalamaja cemetery (in Estonian: Kalamaja kalmistu; in German: Fischermay Kirchhof) which was founded in the 15th or 16th century. The cemetery was flattened in 1964, during the second occupation of the Baltic states, by Russian Soviet authorities who used the area of Kalamaja as a base for the Soviet Armed Forces.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kalamaja/108092169219144
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalamaja
http://kalamaja.info/en.html
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10 November 2011 14:03
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's link.
or not ?
9 November 2011 22:55
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's link.
or do you know anyone who got hurt alfred?
9 November 2011 22:55
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's link.
Do not worry Kelly, i have not heard that anyone actually got hurt jet from mentioned beings :)
9 November 2011 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on Alfred Lambremont Webre's link.
Sorry for the base, but good that hopefully everyone was able to move to safe location before happening
9 November 2011 22:48
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce Damer's note.
I was just thinking that some people have just plenty of money, power, influence, knowledge, connections, friends, balls, experience and much more to wipe off any this kind of movement by using fairly simple methods.
We should put most effort in to networks to educate people, to wake up people, to make them accept that WE are the ones who do it and we cant stop fighting with fighting. We should also put effort to help these people up there as they made it - they just forget on the road what was their childhood dreams, what they really wanted to do.. it's easy to get stuck in illusions or to hard cold realty when hundreds of millions running by and there is many people that will come and jump on you if you made mistake in their eye... many people have really strong walls build around them to (sometimes) over protect their assets for reasons their seems to see clearly as they have just not looked in to other corners of life, in to the other channels what also might be possible If
We should put most effort in to networks to educate people, to wake up people, to make them accept that WE are the ones who do it and we cant stop fighting with fighting. We should also put effort to help these people up there as they made it - they just forget on the road what was their childhood dreams, what they really wanted to do.. it's easy to get stuck in illusions or to hard cold realty when hundreds of millions running by and there is many people that will come and jump on you if you made mistake in their eye... many people have really strong walls build around them to (sometimes) over protect their assets for reasons their seems to see clearly as they have just not looked in to other corners of life, in to the other channels what also might be possible If
9 November 2011 22:05
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce Damer's note.
And where is the points For politicians, and for business people and media people and military & medical business etc - why should they want to make this change ? If people would be so active and smart to take care for themselves they would have done all that is needed in the eyes of them ... so where is cookies for them, something their mind can touch and feel as useful directly and good for all their friends ? :)
9 November 2011 21:52
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce Damer's post.
Thanks Bruce :)
9 November 2011 21:41
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
(: Huggs
9 November 2011 21:20
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
Brigitte - when you last time just went out to deep nature alone or with loved ones - with no communication tools and get in one with nature for at least few days? When you last time run naked to the lake?
I mean you are missing all the Real Life as all this seemingly important illusions that are SO LITTLE important (and from way different corner) finning all your day.
It's sad when intelligent women just seems to waste all hes life with these issues that in the end just make more issues - it's so easy to see... it's a endless game like this that will have much bigger changes soon, much faster - from way different corner then any analyst can predict. So why bother... enjoy the Mother Nature for as long it lasts in your life. There is Way more answers then...
I mean you are missing all the Real Life as all this seemingly important illusions that are SO LITTLE important (and from way different corner) finning all your day.
It's sad when intelligent women just seems to waste all hes life with these issues that in the end just make more issues - it's so easy to see... it's a endless game like this that will have much bigger changes soon, much faster - from way different corner then any analyst can predict. So why bother... enjoy the Mother Nature for as long it lasts in your life. There is Way more answers then...
9 November 2011 21:19
Margus Meigo commented on Freewheeling Gary Falkenberg's post.
always :)
8 November 2011 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on Hermes Galatis's post.
What would jesus do?
Would one Like the cross on one's fb profile?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxsGyljd6B0
Would one Like the cross on one's fb profile?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxsGyljd6B0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxsGyljd6B0
8 November 2011 19:48
Margus Meigo commented on Hermes Galatis's post.
As you most likelly might agree the CrushBelief is not Jesus(es) religion but at best Religon about Jesus. Or at least some kind of training program, one of the oldest corporation's that used a lot jesus for marketing.
I have been wonderign long time that If church would have direct relaton to da Jesus (even If Jesus is 'just' psychdelic stories and event's collected from various mystics/travelers ) then it would imho spread Love & use intelligence, not fear with millitary orders.
Maybe back then rules-orders like that was needed in someones or someMans mind and now is just time to evolve, reshape some prinsibels and meanings?
Or should we just burn it and take this as final value? :)
or is there more ?
I have been wonderign long time that If church would have direct relaton to da Jesus (even If Jesus is 'just' psychdelic stories and event's collected from various mystics/travelers ) then it would imho spread Love & use intelligence, not fear with millitary orders.
Maybe back then rules-orders like that was needed in someones or someMans mind and now is just time to evolve, reshape some prinsibels and meanings?
Or should we just burn it and take this as final value? :)
or is there more ?
8 November 2011 19:45
Margus Meigo commented on Joseph A Schrock Jr's link.
Take look at the other links also under the post ;)
8 November 2011 18:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-patricia-fitzgerald/mushrooms-breast-cancer_b_1070744.html
PF: Mushrooms have such potential with assisting in restoration of health. Why don't we hear more about them? With the current health care crisis, it seems like almost anyone could benefit from at least adding mushrooms to their diet.
PS: Mushrooms are very different from plants. Mushrooms inspire curiosity but are so short-lived -- they disappear in a few days whereas plants are viewable in the landscape for many months, if not years. Naturally, something that is so powerful, yet so temporarily encountered, is likely to be poorly understood. And since some mushrooms can feed you, kill you, propel you into a profound spiritual experience, human knowledge of mushrooms lags behind the knowledge of plants. Risk is not without its rewards, and now through thousands of years of use, we know now many mushrooms which are safe to consume and are powerful reservoirs of beneficial agents. Hippocrates, the father of modern medicine, first mentioned the Amadou mushroom in 450 BC; Dioscorides, in 65 AD, first describes the Agarikon mushroom, one which we are exploring for its anti-flu and anti-herpes activities, as well as it long-viewed reputation as a treatment against 'consumption' later to be known as tuberculosis. In Asia, Reishi and Turkey Tail also have been recorded for thousands of years for their 'system-improving' benefits. In essence, we are rediscovering what our ancestors long ago knew: mushrooms are rich reservoirs of power medicines.
PF: Mushrooms have such potential with assisting in restoration of health. Why don't we hear more about them? With the current health care crisis, it seems like almost anyone could benefit from at least adding mushrooms to their diet.
PS: Mushrooms are very different from plants. Mushrooms inspire curiosity but are so short-lived -- they disappear in a few days whereas plants are viewable in the landscape for many months, if not years. Naturally, something that is so powerful, yet so temporarily encountered, is likely to be poorly understood. And since some mushrooms can feed you, kill you, propel you into a profound spiritual experience, human knowledge of mushrooms lags behind the knowledge of plants. Risk is not without its rewards, and now through thousands of years of use, we know now many mushrooms which are safe to consume and are powerful reservoirs of beneficial agents. Hippocrates, the father of modern medicine, first mentioned the Amadou mushroom in 450 BC; Dioscorides, in 65 AD, first describes the Agarikon mushroom, one which we are exploring for its anti-flu and anti-herpes activities, as well as it long-viewed reputation as a treatment against 'consumption' later to be known as tuberculosis. In Asia, Reishi and Turkey Tail also have been recorded for thousands of years for their 'system-improving' benefits. In essence, we are rediscovering what our ancestors long ago knew: mushrooms are rich reservoirs of power medicines.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-patricia-fitzgerald/mushrooms-breast-cancer_b_1070744.html
8 November 2011 18:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The researchers found that land plants had evolved on Earth by about 700 million years ago and land fungi by about 1,300 million years ago--much earlier than previous estimates of around 480 million years ago, which were based on the earliest fossils of those organisms.
Prior to this study, it was believed that Earth's landscape at that time was covered with barren rocks harboring nothing more than some bacteria and possibly some algae. No undisputed fossils of the earliest land plants and fungi have been found in rocks formed during the Precambrian period, says Hedges, possibly because their primitive bodies were too soft to turn into fossils.
The early appearance on the land of fungi and plants suggests their plausible role in both the mysterious lowering of the Earth's surface temperature during the series of Snowball Earth events roughly 750 million to 580 million years ago and the sudden appearance of many new species of fossil animals during the Cambrian Explosion era roughly 530 million years ago.
"Both the lowering of the Earth's surface temperature and the evolution of many new types of animals could result from a decrease in atmospheric carbon dioxide and a rise in oxygen caused by the presence on land of lichen fungi and plants at this time, which our research suggests," Hedges says.
"An increase in land plant abundance may have occurred at the time just before the period known as the Cambrian Explosion, when the next Snowball Earth period failed to occur because temperatures did not get quite cold enough," Hedges says. "The plants conceivably boosted oxygen levels in the atmosphere high enough for animals to develop skeletons, grow larger, and diversify."
Lichens are believed to have been the first fungi to team up with photosynthesizing organisms like cyanobacteria and green algae. Lichens can live without rain for months, providing protection for photosynthesizing organisms, which produce oxygen and release it into the atmosphere.
The researchers suggest that the pioneer lichen fungi, which produce acids strong enough to dissolve rocks, also could have helped to reduce carbon dioxide. When washed away by rainwater, the calcium released from the lichen-encrusted rocks eventually forms calcium carbonate limestone in the ocean, preventing the carbon atoms from forming the greenhouse gas, carbon dioxide, in the atmosphere.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2001-08/ps-flp080301.php
Prior to this study, it was believed that Earth's landscape at that time was covered with barren rocks harboring nothing more than some bacteria and possibly some algae. No undisputed fossils of the earliest land plants and fungi have been found in rocks formed during the Precambrian period, says Hedges, possibly because their primitive bodies were too soft to turn into fossils.
The early appearance on the land of fungi and plants suggests their plausible role in both the mysterious lowering of the Earth's surface temperature during the series of Snowball Earth events roughly 750 million to 580 million years ago and the sudden appearance of many new species of fossil animals during the Cambrian Explosion era roughly 530 million years ago.
"Both the lowering of the Earth's surface temperature and the evolution of many new types of animals could result from a decrease in atmospheric carbon dioxide and a rise in oxygen caused by the presence on land of lichen fungi and plants at this time, which our research suggests," Hedges says.
"An increase in land plant abundance may have occurred at the time just before the period known as the Cambrian Explosion, when the next Snowball Earth period failed to occur because temperatures did not get quite cold enough," Hedges says. "The plants conceivably boosted oxygen levels in the atmosphere high enough for animals to develop skeletons, grow larger, and diversify."
Lichens are believed to have been the first fungi to team up with photosynthesizing organisms like cyanobacteria and green algae. Lichens can live without rain for months, providing protection for photosynthesizing organisms, which produce oxygen and release it into the atmosphere.
The researchers suggest that the pioneer lichen fungi, which produce acids strong enough to dissolve rocks, also could have helped to reduce carbon dioxide. When washed away by rainwater, the calcium released from the lichen-encrusted rocks eventually forms calcium carbonate limestone in the ocean, preventing the carbon atoms from forming the greenhouse gas, carbon dioxide, in the atmosphere.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2001-08/ps-flp080301.php
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2001-08/ps-flp080301.php
8 November 2011 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.actionbioscience.org/newfrontiers/jeffares_poole.html
Backing up the hard drive
In addition to the information we can glean from the study of RNA, we can also learn about our evolutionary past by examining how the storage of genetic information has evolved. Genetic information is like any other information; it is stored in a particular medium, it gets copied, read and transmitted, and over time, small errors can turn up.
Cells without nuclei (prokaryotes) store genetic information differently than cells with nuclei (eukaryotes).
Prokaryotes and eukaryotes employ quite different mechanisms for ensuring that genetic information is not corrupted. The differences are as follows:
Prokaryotes maintain their genome in a single copy, usually a single DNA chromosome, with as much information packed onto it as possible.
Many eukaryotes have two copies, divide the information up into several DNA chromosomes, with the genes packed relatively sparsely. Unlike prokaryotes, eukaryotes keep backup copies.
Having only one copy of a gene means that if an error is made, that damage is permanent-there is no backup copy for its rescue.
But what difference does it make if the genes are split up or kept on a single chromosome? Consider this example:
Backing up the hard drive
In addition to the information we can glean from the study of RNA, we can also learn about our evolutionary past by examining how the storage of genetic information has evolved. Genetic information is like any other information; it is stored in a particular medium, it gets copied, read and transmitted, and over time, small errors can turn up.
Cells without nuclei (prokaryotes) store genetic information differently than cells with nuclei (eukaryotes).
Prokaryotes and eukaryotes employ quite different mechanisms for ensuring that genetic information is not corrupted. The differences are as follows:
Prokaryotes maintain their genome in a single copy, usually a single DNA chromosome, with as much information packed onto it as possible.
Many eukaryotes have two copies, divide the information up into several DNA chromosomes, with the genes packed relatively sparsely. Unlike prokaryotes, eukaryotes keep backup copies.
Having only one copy of a gene means that if an error is made, that damage is permanent-there is no backup copy for its rescue.
But what difference does it make if the genes are split up or kept on a single chromosome? Consider this example:
http://www.actionbioscience.org/newfrontiers/jeffares_poole.html
8 November 2011 18:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts/2007/06/the_kangaroo_is_the_first_orga.php
Comments
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Organism or individual would be about as fluid as species or life, wouldn't it? So I see a new list coming, on 20+ "organism" concepts (or "conceptions" :-).
Sort of like the difficulty to define (an individual) computer. Is it the individual core of a multiprocessor? Or the multicore? Or the minimal chip set? Or the mother board? ... Or the internet IP multicluster? Or with the addition of the NASA interplanetary IP protocol, the asynchronous 'planetnet'?
Hmm. What was the question again? Oh, "individual." Wouldn't that depend on the "species" definition together with an acceptable population description?
Posted by: Torbj�rn Larsson, OM | June 12, 2007 3:03 AM
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Hum. Would it be possible to make a distinction based on whether the organism can exhibit any whole-"body" responses? That is, it is capable of acting as a single unit?
Identical twins have two bodies. Each body can individually exhibit a whole-body response (e.g. systemic rise in blood pressure when angry). A tree can exhibit a whole-body response (e.g. shedding of leaves in autumn, transport of materials from leaves to roots and vice versa).
The fungal genet - well, can it? If you poke one side of it, is the other side able to know in any way that the poking has happened? Certainly it can't if you chop a chunk off and transplant it.
It's almost the same question as to how to address ring species - how many different species are there, given that you can in theory interbreed between any set of neighbours until you try to "close" the ring and find that the opposite ends of the chain are incompatible?
Posted by: Peter Ellis | June 12, 2007 5:07 AM
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Some claim that the largest known organism is a stand of aspen in Utah called "Pando" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pando_%28tree%29), all connected by an underground root system. I think Larry had a post on this a while ago.
Posted by: jeffw | June 12, 2007 7:08 AM
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All of this notwithstanding, I think that it is at best loose talk to call the gallica stand an "organism". You can chop off almost any sized part of that mass and grow from it.
Not from the fruiting bodies, though.
I don't think the gallica stand is an "individual" organism either, compared to a sequoia tree, but I'm not sure that this "argument from regeneration" is entirely successful. Is a willow tree less of an organism than a sequoia, since it grows from chopped-off parts more successfully? How about planaria?
Posted by: windy | June 12, 2007 8:30 AM
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Nice post, but you are soooo toally wrong.
The biggest organism is the talking heads at the Discovery Institute in Seattle. They are able to generate words sounds that almost have meaning, and are able to do this despite actually having no brains, or in some cases brain-cases filled with feces. I give them credit for being the biggest pile of smelly organism, because of the dangerously wide range of this organism, going all the way to Washington DC.
We can not forget about this deadly organism, and must continue to do what we can to eradicate it in all it's changing forms, to make the world a safe place for our children.
Posted by: J-Dog | June 12, 2007 8:54 AM
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Hum. Would it be possible to make a distinction based on whether the organism can exhibit any whole-"body" responses? That is, it is capable of acting as a single unit?
Now we are entering science fiction territory of unfamiliar real or imagined possibilities. Is a hive a single individual? Or, looking at the computer or gaia analogy, why would asynchronous and distributed responses be any less "bodified"?
I'm still curious if not evolutionary modeling would be appropriate to pick out the best definition(s). The genet would 'lose', as I understand it, being harder to replicate (and replicate faithfully in some sense).
Posted by: Torbjrn Larsson, OM | June 12, 2007 11:04 AM
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Perhaps I'm revealing my mycologist past, but I want to claim that the biggest organisms are Armillaria. They do have differentiated structures - they're called mushrooms. I would bet that they have others too, even though I'm not into that sort of fungus (mildew was more my thing). The individual is almost certainly a contiguous whole (in the paper on this I looked at they sampled along a peninsula, and only found one genotype), in which case it's only not one organism because our approach to growth and development is biased against fungi.
I once got into an argument with DaveScot over this.
Bob
P.S. John - are all cats from Melbourne incredibly hairy?
Posted by: Bob O'H | June 12, 2007 11:22 AM
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"So, what is the biggest organism in the world? I think it has to be the sequoia trees - they function as a whole, are differentiated into organs, and have a threshold of damage that will kill them. Apologies to Gould and to Oregon."
function as a whole...
differentiated into organs...
damage threshhold that will kill them...
Seems like the definition of an organism suffers from overt anthropomorphism. An argument could be made for "differentiated into organs" based on the original idea of the concept of an organism. However, this begs the question, What is the definition of an organ?
Posted by: wafer | June 12, 2007 1:24 PM
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The term "superorganism" originated with Frederic Clements, a plant ecologist who argued that the various species and organisms in an ecosystem interact and interrelate so precisely as to function as a superorganism.
Posted by: Josh Rosenau | June 12, 2007 1:39 PM
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Surely you can't insist on "differentiation into organs" as a criterion for being an organism! Otherwise there are no unicellular organisms.
Even then, even if you accept the (obviously bogus in my view) position that only multicellular organisms count, I can't see any clear distinction between the sequoia and the stand of aspen, except that the stand of aspen could be divided and go on to survive.
So does it really in the end come down to divisibility? In that case, what about planarian worms, who will regenerate the whole body even from a comparatively small fragment? I'd defy you to look at a formed adult planarian wriggling through the mud and say that it's not an organism - but then what of the aspens and the fungi?
Posted by: Peter Ellis | June 13, 2007 3:16 AM
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Just noting the origins, and general meaning. Of course, on this definition, a cellular organism is still an organism, because it has organelles - at the very least all microbes are complex organised structures that cannot be easily divided without disruption.
A nice discussion of this is Leo Buss's 1987 book The Evolution of Individuality. Historical note - Julian Huxley also wrote about it.
Posted by: John Wilkins | June 13, 2007 3:38 AM
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In the end I'd say that the idea of an "organism" is simply a distinction we choose to make. We do so because it covers most of the lifeforms in our familiar environment. But as always, "the map is not the terrain".
Posted by: David Harmon | June 16, 2007 9:41 PM
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Organism or individual would be about as fluid as species or life, wouldn't it? So I see a new list coming, on 20+ "organism" concepts (or "conceptions" :-).
Sort of like the difficulty to define (an individual) computer. Is it the individual core of a multiprocessor? Or the multicore? Or the minimal chip set? Or the mother board? ... Or the internet IP multicluster? Or with the addition of the NASA interplanetary IP protocol, the asynchronous 'planetnet'?
Hmm. What was the question again? Oh, "individual." Wouldn't that depend on the "species" definition together with an acceptable population description?
Posted by: Torbj�rn Larsson, OM | June 12, 2007 3:03 AM
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Hum. Would it be possible to make a distinction based on whether the organism can exhibit any whole-"body" responses? That is, it is capable of acting as a single unit?
Identical twins have two bodies. Each body can individually exhibit a whole-body response (e.g. systemic rise in blood pressure when angry). A tree can exhibit a whole-body response (e.g. shedding of leaves in autumn, transport of materials from leaves to roots and vice versa).
The fungal genet - well, can it? If you poke one side of it, is the other side able to know in any way that the poking has happened? Certainly it can't if you chop a chunk off and transplant it.
It's almost the same question as to how to address ring species - how many different species are there, given that you can in theory interbreed between any set of neighbours until you try to "close" the ring and find that the opposite ends of the chain are incompatible?
Posted by: Peter Ellis | June 12, 2007 5:07 AM
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Some claim that the largest known organism is a stand of aspen in Utah called "Pando" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pando_%28tree%29), all connected by an underground root system. I think Larry had a post on this a while ago.
Posted by: jeffw | June 12, 2007 7:08 AM
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All of this notwithstanding, I think that it is at best loose talk to call the gallica stand an "organism". You can chop off almost any sized part of that mass and grow from it.
Not from the fruiting bodies, though.
I don't think the gallica stand is an "individual" organism either, compared to a sequoia tree, but I'm not sure that this "argument from regeneration" is entirely successful. Is a willow tree less of an organism than a sequoia, since it grows from chopped-off parts more successfully? How about planaria?
Posted by: windy | June 12, 2007 8:30 AM
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Nice post, but you are soooo toally wrong.
The biggest organism is the talking heads at the Discovery Institute in Seattle. They are able to generate words sounds that almost have meaning, and are able to do this despite actually having no brains, or in some cases brain-cases filled with feces. I give them credit for being the biggest pile of smelly organism, because of the dangerously wide range of this organism, going all the way to Washington DC.
We can not forget about this deadly organism, and must continue to do what we can to eradicate it in all it's changing forms, to make the world a safe place for our children.
Posted by: J-Dog | June 12, 2007 8:54 AM
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Hum. Would it be possible to make a distinction based on whether the organism can exhibit any whole-"body" responses? That is, it is capable of acting as a single unit?
Now we are entering science fiction territory of unfamiliar real or imagined possibilities. Is a hive a single individual? Or, looking at the computer or gaia analogy, why would asynchronous and distributed responses be any less "bodified"?
I'm still curious if not evolutionary modeling would be appropriate to pick out the best definition(s). The genet would 'lose', as I understand it, being harder to replicate (and replicate faithfully in some sense).
Posted by: Torbjrn Larsson, OM | June 12, 2007 11:04 AM
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Perhaps I'm revealing my mycologist past, but I want to claim that the biggest organisms are Armillaria. They do have differentiated structures - they're called mushrooms. I would bet that they have others too, even though I'm not into that sort of fungus (mildew was more my thing). The individual is almost certainly a contiguous whole (in the paper on this I looked at they sampled along a peninsula, and only found one genotype), in which case it's only not one organism because our approach to growth and development is biased against fungi.
I once got into an argument with DaveScot over this.
Bob
P.S. John - are all cats from Melbourne incredibly hairy?
Posted by: Bob O'H | June 12, 2007 11:22 AM
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"So, what is the biggest organism in the world? I think it has to be the sequoia trees - they function as a whole, are differentiated into organs, and have a threshold of damage that will kill them. Apologies to Gould and to Oregon."
function as a whole...
differentiated into organs...
damage threshhold that will kill them...
Seems like the definition of an organism suffers from overt anthropomorphism. An argument could be made for "differentiated into organs" based on the original idea of the concept of an organism. However, this begs the question, What is the definition of an organ?
Posted by: wafer | June 12, 2007 1:24 PM
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The term "superorganism" originated with Frederic Clements, a plant ecologist who argued that the various species and organisms in an ecosystem interact and interrelate so precisely as to function as a superorganism.
Posted by: Josh Rosenau | June 12, 2007 1:39 PM
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Surely you can't insist on "differentiation into organs" as a criterion for being an organism! Otherwise there are no unicellular organisms.
Even then, even if you accept the (obviously bogus in my view) position that only multicellular organisms count, I can't see any clear distinction between the sequoia and the stand of aspen, except that the stand of aspen could be divided and go on to survive.
So does it really in the end come down to divisibility? In that case, what about planarian worms, who will regenerate the whole body even from a comparatively small fragment? I'd defy you to look at a formed adult planarian wriggling through the mud and say that it's not an organism - but then what of the aspens and the fungi?
Posted by: Peter Ellis | June 13, 2007 3:16 AM
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Just noting the origins, and general meaning. Of course, on this definition, a cellular organism is still an organism, because it has organelles - at the very least all microbes are complex organised structures that cannot be easily divided without disruption.
A nice discussion of this is Leo Buss's 1987 book The Evolution of Individuality. Historical note - Julian Huxley also wrote about it.
Posted by: John Wilkins | June 13, 2007 3:38 AM
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In the end I'd say that the idea of an "organism" is simply a distinction we choose to make. We do so because it covers most of the lifeforms in our familiar environment. But as always, "the map is not the terrain".
Posted by: David Harmon | June 16, 2007 9:41 PM
http://www.scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts/2007/06/the_kangaroo_is_the_first_orga.php
8 November 2011 18:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Size do not matter but here we go more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Largest_organisms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Largest_organisms
8 November 2011 18:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.ted.com/talks/paul_stamets_on_6_ways_mushrooms_can_save_the_world.html (from there see more, be on Ted )
http://www.ted.com/talks/paul_stamets_on_6_ways_mushrooms_can_save_the_world.html
8 November 2011 18:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FungusHumongous side story to next story:
http://www.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FungusHumongous
8 November 2011 17:55
Margus Meigo commented on Freewheeling Gary Falkenberg's link.
Nicelly done!
Are we all shrooms?
Are we all shrooms?
8 November 2011 16:47
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
.. or are we still thinking about these things to much that we can not do much about and be to little what we should be
Or should we, what you think?
Or should we, what you think?
7 November 2011 13:45
Margus Meigo commented on Freewheeling Gary Falkenberg's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
found it i guess: http://articles.sfgate.com/2007-07-12/news/17251913_1_grateful-dead-steely-dan-lsdhttp://articles.sfgate.com/2007-07-12/news/17251913_1_grateful-dead-steely-dan-lsd
4 November 2011 19:22
Margus Meigo commented on Freewheeling Gary Falkenberg's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
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Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kui nii edasi läheb siis võime juba päris hirmuvabasi hariduslike/valgustavaid kirjatükke lugeda aasta paari pärast
Varsti hakkab valitsus ebaolulise info asemel hoopis rääkima sellest mida kuidas kasutada. Kohe kui nad selle olulisusest aru saanud on
Tänud lingi eest Mattias ! :)
Varsti hakkab valitsus ebaolulise info asemel hoopis rääkima sellest mida kuidas kasutada. Kohe kui nad selle olulisusest aru saanud on
Tänud lingi eest Mattias ! :)
4 November 2011 12:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Spin the wheel!
http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/mot_wagonWheel/index.html
http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/mot_wagonWheel/index.html
http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/mot_wagonWheel/index.html
4 November 2011 02:11
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
It's We, it's Us, it's You with Me who can Will, how it's going to begin again, and again and again and now and now and without the end
Do we have all the possibilities for tools and mind viruses delivery methods we can handle' or we need to make it look as we still waiting, to be? -And we have fragments of free will that we can partly buy if we will but we still buy nothing and nothing that makes us remember that it does not matter what you remember now if you want to see
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Matthew 24:33 - this what someone might read as end is just another name for beginning. Beginnings do not began Then, but they Are Now. Is it helpful to be aware in what direction the river is rivering before swimmering?
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To see with closed eyes close your eyes and see for a while what you want to see. Or do you see the blackness and how it was before it was Good?
What part of this song that seems so sad you can make better now ? and after that, and after that and after that why did you stop after that?
Do we have all the possibilities for tools and mind viruses delivery methods we can handle' or we need to make it look as we still waiting, to be? -And we have fragments of free will that we can partly buy if we will but we still buy nothing and nothing that makes us remember that it does not matter what you remember now if you want to see
---
Matthew 24:33 - this what someone might read as end is just another name for beginning. Beginnings do not began Then, but they Are Now. Is it helpful to be aware in what direction the river is rivering before swimmering?
---
To see with closed eyes close your eyes and see for a while what you want to see. Or do you see the blackness and how it was before it was Good?
What part of this song that seems so sad you can make better now ? and after that, and after that and after that why did you stop after that?
3 November 2011 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ryan-grim/read-the-never-before-pub_b_227887.html Loe seda kah :)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ryan-grim/read-the-never-before-pub_b_227887.html
3 November 2011 01:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2RCnWOsk4rQ
http://www.amazon.com/review/R3ESVGCDEKH6GW/ref=cm_cr_pr_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1594774056
- have not read it my self, but also take look to some critical comments and then also do not forget to take critical look to critical comments, will add the free .pdf here when i came across it (:
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from web: http://www.simongpowell.com/the-psilocybin-solution.html
"Simon G. Powell has crafted a magnificent, multifaceted argument for the reintegration of psychedelics into science, culture, psychotherapy and religion, to inspire our unbalanced species before we push the biosphere into total decline."
Rick Doblin, Ph.D., president of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies
"A worthy successor to Aldous Huxley's "The Doors of Perception", Powell takes the reader behind the grand curtain of reality with a compelling hypothesis that approaches a unified field theory of human consciousness in an intelligent and interconnected universe."
Bill Linton, CEO of Promega and a Director of the Heffter Research Institute
"This book provides a clear and up-to-date picture of what goes on in the brain during the visionary psilocybin experience, and comes tantalizingly close to the bridge linking mind to matter. Those interested in consciousness and its modification will gain from reading it. The author's intrepid speculations, centering on information as the fundamental stuff of the universe, are clearly signposted. The writing is lucid and a joy to behold. An important contribution."
Jeremy Narby, Ph.D., author of The Cosmic Serpent and Intelligence in Nature
“In this fascinating and provocative book, Simon G. Powell speculates on the nature of reality. He posits that Nature is a deliberate and intelligently behaving system, and he proposes that psilocybin, by altering the neurochemistry of the brain in specific ways, enables novel patterns of information to emerge, allowing the psyche to become a sort of conduit to the Other. If in fact that is what actually happens, then entheogens (psychedelics) are much more important to the human species than has been realized.”
David E. Nichols, Ph.D., president and cofounder of the Heffter Research Institute
"Simon G. Powell has become a cogent proselytiser for mushrooms as our ecological redeemers."
From Andy Letcher's book Shroom
"I was simply blown away by this extraordinary book. Hands down, it's the best argument that I've ever read about the possibility of teleology operating in evolution, and of a higher intelligence organizing the natural world."
author David J. Brown
http://www.amazon.com/review/R3ESVGCDEKH6GW/ref=cm_cr_pr_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1594774056
- have not read it my self, but also take look to some critical comments and then also do not forget to take critical look to critical comments, will add the free .pdf here when i came across it (:
---
from web: http://www.simongpowell.com/the-psilocybin-solution.html
"Simon G. Powell has crafted a magnificent, multifaceted argument for the reintegration of psychedelics into science, culture, psychotherapy and religion, to inspire our unbalanced species before we push the biosphere into total decline."
Rick Doblin, Ph.D., president of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies
"A worthy successor to Aldous Huxley's "The Doors of Perception", Powell takes the reader behind the grand curtain of reality with a compelling hypothesis that approaches a unified field theory of human consciousness in an intelligent and interconnected universe."
Bill Linton, CEO of Promega and a Director of the Heffter Research Institute
"This book provides a clear and up-to-date picture of what goes on in the brain during the visionary psilocybin experience, and comes tantalizingly close to the bridge linking mind to matter. Those interested in consciousness and its modification will gain from reading it. The author's intrepid speculations, centering on information as the fundamental stuff of the universe, are clearly signposted. The writing is lucid and a joy to behold. An important contribution."
Jeremy Narby, Ph.D., author of The Cosmic Serpent and Intelligence in Nature
“In this fascinating and provocative book, Simon G. Powell speculates on the nature of reality. He posits that Nature is a deliberate and intelligently behaving system, and he proposes that psilocybin, by altering the neurochemistry of the brain in specific ways, enables novel patterns of information to emerge, allowing the psyche to become a sort of conduit to the Other. If in fact that is what actually happens, then entheogens (psychedelics) are much more important to the human species than has been realized.”
David E. Nichols, Ph.D., president and cofounder of the Heffter Research Institute
"Simon G. Powell has become a cogent proselytiser for mushrooms as our ecological redeemers."
From Andy Letcher's book Shroom
"I was simply blown away by this extraordinary book. Hands down, it's the best argument that I've ever read about the possibility of teleology operating in evolution, and of a higher intelligence organizing the natural world."
author David J. Brown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RCnWOsk4rQ
3 November 2011 01:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
More realistic/dramatic experience description http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrj1X6TzEXo
But that by far not all, any description is just..
(:
But that by far not all, any description is just..
(:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrj1X6TzEXo
3 November 2011 00:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho2d1HxtXfk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho2d1HxtXfk
3 November 2011 00:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
& then some fellows in mainstream make 'tests' like that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=184PZnvOlx0
... "fly up with supersonic speed and colors & talking" was really the peak/point/result of experience? What a miss...
& Dr. Nutt ..hmm - one should know better then making experiments with shrooms in settings like that to find an answers. Not sure if funny is right word to describe this kind of tests .. But i guess... everything is needed and looks like step forward around the corner for some.
To be fare i guess these experiment points are not the real connection/travels but to look more how they can squeese some part of the plant in to the pill and sale it -minus spiritual experience or ...
(:
... "fly up with supersonic speed and colors & talking" was really the peak/point/result of experience? What a miss...
& Dr. Nutt ..hmm - one should know better then making experiments with shrooms in settings like that to find an answers. Not sure if funny is right word to describe this kind of tests .. But i guess... everything is needed and looks like step forward around the corner for some.
To be fare i guess these experiment points are not the real connection/travels but to look more how they can squeese some part of the plant in to the pill and sale it -minus spiritual experience or ...
(:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=184PZnvOlx0
3 November 2011 00:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
What you are regarding as a gift
is a problem for you to solve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax5JYvtbQak
is a problem for you to solve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax5JYvtbQak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax5JYvtbQak
2 November 2011 19:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Everything we see
could also be otherwise,
Everything we can describe at all
could also be otherwise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfuz5TgzgwI
could also be otherwise,
Everything we can describe at all
could also be otherwise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfuz5TgzgwI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfuz5TgzgwI
2 November 2011 19:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
How Hard i find it to see
what is right in front of my eyes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl5M7UTzgII
what is right in front of my eyes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl5M7UTzgII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl5M7UTzgII
2 November 2011 19:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
How you agree with 5.6?
2 November 2011 18:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
One way to know the future is to make it
2 November 2011 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
"Nie uzyskano połączenia z serwerem"
25 October 2011 20:58
Margus Meigo commented on Bruce W Clark's photo.
Hot like my wife!
18 October 2011 16:58
Margus Meigo commented on Joto Laskov's photo.
(on the backround plays song verse about poor people) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk
17 October 2011 18:34
Margus Meigo commented on Rafe Furst's post.
Group: Accelerating Possibilities
Point of View connecter17 October 2011 18:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Pentagon assumed that their adversaries in the Middle East and Central Asia wouldn’t have the smarts to tap into the communications link. That’s despite presentations like this 1996 doozy from Air Combat Command, which noted that that “the Predator UAV is designed to operate with unencrypted data links.”
http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/usaf/conops_uav/part01.htm
The implications of the Predator's unencrypted transmissions have been known in military circles for a long time. An October 1999 presentation http://aupress.maxwell.af.mil/SAAS_Theses/SAASS_Out/Stephenson/stephenson.pdf given at the Air Force's School of Advanced Airpower Studies in Alabama noted "the Predator UAV is designed to operate with unencrypted data links."
In 2002, a British engineer who enjoys scanning satellite signals for fun stumbled across a NATO video feed from the Kosovo war. CBS News correspondent Mark Phillips reported then on the apparent surveillance security shortfall, and the U.S. military's decision to essentially let it slide.
More: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504383_162-5988978-504383.html
C'mone guys, no - mil cant be with minds so outdated, this would be scary. It's a game
http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/usaf/conops_uav/part01.htm
The implications of the Predator's unencrypted transmissions have been known in military circles for a long time. An October 1999 presentation http://aupress.maxwell.af.mil/SAAS_Theses/SAASS_Out/Stephenson/stephenson.pdf given at the Air Force's School of Advanced Airpower Studies in Alabama noted "the Predator UAV is designed to operate with unencrypted data links."
In 2002, a British engineer who enjoys scanning satellite signals for fun stumbled across a NATO video feed from the Kosovo war. CBS News correspondent Mark Phillips reported then on the apparent surveillance security shortfall, and the U.S. military's decision to essentially let it slide.
More: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504383_162-5988978-504383.html
C'mone guys, no - mil cant be with minds so outdated, this would be scary. It's a game
http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/usaf/conops_uav/part01.htm
14 October 2011 05:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
In Iraq and Afghanistan, the U.S. military depends on an array of drones to snoop on and stalk insurgents. Now it looks as if insurgents are tapping into those same drones’ broadcasts, to see what the flying robot spies see. If true — and widespread — it’s potentially one of the most serious military security breaches in years. /20 years../
Militants in Iraq have used $26 off-the-shelf software to intercept live video feeds from U.S. Predator drones, potentially providing them with information they need to evade or monitor U.S. military operations.
The potential drone vulnerability lies in an unencrypted downlink between the unmanned craft and ground control. The U.S. government has known about the flaw since the U.S. campaign in Bosnia in the 1990s, current and former officials said. But the Pentagon assumed local adversaries wouldn't know how to exploit it, the officials said.
U.S. officials say there is no evidence that militants were able to take control of the drones or otherwise interfere with their flights
The militants use programs such as SkyGrabber, from Russian company SkySoftware. Andrew Solonikov, one of the software's developers, said he was unaware that his software could be used to intercept drone feeds. "It was developed to intercept music, photos, video, programs and other content that other users download from the Internet -- no military data or other commercial data, only free legal content," he said by email from Russia.
" a spokeswoman said that for security reasons, the company couldn't comment on "specific data link capabilities and limitations."
U.S. military personnel in Iraq discovered the problem late last year when they apprehended a Shiite militant whose laptop contained files of intercepted drone video feeds. In July, the U.S. military found pirated drone video feeds on other militant laptops, leading some officials to conclude that militant groups trained and funded by Iran were regularly intercepting feeds.
In the summer 2009 incident, the military found "days and days and hours and hours of proof" that the feeds were being intercepted and shared with multiple extremist groups, the person said. "It is part of their kit now."
The Air Force has staked its future on unmanned aerial vehicles. Drones account for 36% of the planes in the service's proposed 2010 budget.
Today, the Air Force is buying hundreds of Reaper drones, a newer model, whose video feeds could be intercepted in much the same way as with the Predators, according to people familiar with the matter.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126102247889095011.html
&
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/12/insurgents-intercept-drone-video-in-king-sized-security-breach/
Militants in Iraq have used $26 off-the-shelf software to intercept live video feeds from U.S. Predator drones, potentially providing them with information they need to evade or monitor U.S. military operations.
The potential drone vulnerability lies in an unencrypted downlink between the unmanned craft and ground control. The U.S. government has known about the flaw since the U.S. campaign in Bosnia in the 1990s, current and former officials said. But the Pentagon assumed local adversaries wouldn't know how to exploit it, the officials said.
U.S. officials say there is no evidence that militants were able to take control of the drones or otherwise interfere with their flights
The militants use programs such as SkyGrabber, from Russian company SkySoftware. Andrew Solonikov, one of the software's developers, said he was unaware that his software could be used to intercept drone feeds. "It was developed to intercept music, photos, video, programs and other content that other users download from the Internet -- no military data or other commercial data, only free legal content," he said by email from Russia.
" a spokeswoman said that for security reasons, the company couldn't comment on "specific data link capabilities and limitations."
U.S. military personnel in Iraq discovered the problem late last year when they apprehended a Shiite militant whose laptop contained files of intercepted drone video feeds. In July, the U.S. military found pirated drone video feeds on other militant laptops, leading some officials to conclude that militant groups trained and funded by Iran were regularly intercepting feeds.
In the summer 2009 incident, the military found "days and days and hours and hours of proof" that the feeds were being intercepted and shared with multiple extremist groups, the person said. "It is part of their kit now."
The Air Force has staked its future on unmanned aerial vehicles. Drones account for 36% of the planes in the service's proposed 2010 budget.
Today, the Air Force is buying hundreds of Reaper drones, a newer model, whose video feeds could be intercepted in much the same way as with the Predators, according to people familiar with the matter.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126102247889095011.html
&
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/12/insurgents-intercept-drone-video-in-king-sized-security-breach/
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126102247889095011.html
14 October 2011 04:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Predator Drone Virus Could Be Internal Monitoring System: Analyst
According to security researcher Miles Fidelman, however, the virus may be an internal Department of Defense (DoD) security monitoring package. He noted there are “a couple of vendors” who sell such technology to the DoD, which are “essentially rootkits that do, among other things, key logging.” The comments were sent to the Dailydave security mailing list, which was posted through SecLists.org.
“I kind of wonder if the virus that folks are fighting is something that some other part of DoD deployed intentionally,” Fidelman adds.
The virus hit the “cockpits” of the pilots—computer stations at Nevada’s Creech Air Force Base. It was first detected by the military’s Host-Based Security System close to two weeks ago, according to Wired.
The military tried removing it several times, but it keeps coming back. Still, it doesn’t seem to have stopped them from continuing their missions, and no classified data has been taken. A source familiar with the network infection told Danger Room, “We keep wiping it off, and it keeps coming back. We think it’s benign. But we just don’t know.”
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/virus-hits-drone-fleet/
http://techzwn.com/2011/10/predator-drone-virus-could-be-internal-monitoring-system-analyst/
But we just don’t know....
Thank you for honesty :)
According to security researcher Miles Fidelman, however, the virus may be an internal Department of Defense (DoD) security monitoring package. He noted there are “a couple of vendors” who sell such technology to the DoD, which are “essentially rootkits that do, among other things, key logging.” The comments were sent to the Dailydave security mailing list, which was posted through SecLists.org.
“I kind of wonder if the virus that folks are fighting is something that some other part of DoD deployed intentionally,” Fidelman adds.
The virus hit the “cockpits” of the pilots—computer stations at Nevada’s Creech Air Force Base. It was first detected by the military’s Host-Based Security System close to two weeks ago, according to Wired.
The military tried removing it several times, but it keeps coming back. Still, it doesn’t seem to have stopped them from continuing their missions, and no classified data has been taken. A source familiar with the network infection told Danger Room, “We keep wiping it off, and it keeps coming back. We think it’s benign. But we just don’t know.”
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/virus-hits-drone-fleet/
http://techzwn.com/2011/10/predator-drone-virus-could-be-internal-monitoring-system-analyst/
But we just don’t know....
Thank you for honesty :)
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/virus-hits-drone-fleet/
14 October 2011 04:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Predator Drone Virus Could Be Internal Monitoring System: Analyst
According to security researcher Miles Fidelman, however, the virus may be an internal Department of Defense (DoD) security monitoring package. He noted there are “a couple of vendors” who sell such technology to the DoD, which are “essentially rootkits that do, among other things, key logging.” The comments were sent to the Dailydave security mailing list, which was posted through SecLists.org.
“I kind of wonder if the virus that folks are fighting is something that some other part of DoD deployed intentionally,” Fidelman adds.
The virus hit the “cockpits” of the pilots—computer stations at Nevada’s Creech Air Force Base. It was first detected by the military’s Host-Based Security System close to two weeks ago, according to Wired.
The military tried removing it several times, but it keeps coming back. Still, it doesn’t seem to have stopped them from continuing their missions, and no classified data has been taken. A source familiar with the network infection told Danger Room, “We keep wiping it off, and it keeps coming back. We think it’s benign. But we just don’t know.”
http://techzwn.com/2011/10/predator-drone-virus-could-be-internal-monitoring-system-analyst/
But we just don’t know....
Thank you for honesty :)
According to security researcher Miles Fidelman, however, the virus may be an internal Department of Defense (DoD) security monitoring package. He noted there are “a couple of vendors” who sell such technology to the DoD, which are “essentially rootkits that do, among other things, key logging.” The comments were sent to the Dailydave security mailing list, which was posted through SecLists.org.
“I kind of wonder if the virus that folks are fighting is something that some other part of DoD deployed intentionally,” Fidelman adds.
The virus hit the “cockpits” of the pilots—computer stations at Nevada’s Creech Air Force Base. It was first detected by the military’s Host-Based Security System close to two weeks ago, according to Wired.
The military tried removing it several times, but it keeps coming back. Still, it doesn’t seem to have stopped them from continuing their missions, and no classified data has been taken. A source familiar with the network infection told Danger Room, “We keep wiping it off, and it keeps coming back. We think it’s benign. But we just don’t know.”
http://techzwn.com/2011/10/predator-drone-virus-could-be-internal-monitoring-system-analyst/
But we just don’t know....
Thank you for honesty :)
http://techzwn.com/2011/10/predator-drone-virus-could-be-internal-monitoring-system-analyst/
14 October 2011 04:43
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Still classic, up to this day :)
14 October 2011 03:44
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Decriminalize All Psychedelics. Now!
Still classic, up to this day :)14 October 2011 03:44
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Drop acid, not bombs.
Still classic, up to this day :)14 October 2011 03:44
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies Fans
Still classic, up to this day :)14 October 2011 03:44
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Paranormal, Spirituality & Metaphysics
Still classic, up to this day :)14 October 2011 03:44
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Kurb
14 October 2011 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCbc6XbFIDU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCbc6XbFIDU
13 October 2011 21:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Rich people do not know what is to be poor, but
Poor people know what is to be rich - as they fantasy about it all the time :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCbc6XbFIDU
for rapping it up
Poor people know what is to be rich - as they fantasy about it all the time :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCbc6XbFIDU
for rapping it up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCbc6XbFIDU
13 October 2011 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQtWSHmF0DI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQtWSHmF0DI
13 October 2011 20:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Time Magazine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjNgNDZzH5o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjNgNDZzH5o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjNgNDZzH5o
13 October 2011 20:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY
13 October 2011 20:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk
13 October 2011 20:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR1jTuGm7ok
(Bill Gates & Apple and more)
(Bill Gates & Apple and more)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR1jTuGm7ok
13 October 2011 20:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=gO9PwbtlOIU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO9PwbtlOIU
13 October 2011 20:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HmoVxU38gE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HmoVxU38gE
13 October 2011 20:46
Margus Meigo commented on Rafe Furst's post.
Group: Accelerating Possibilities
Any support to Point of View Uniter will always be aprishiated, so itie can reach online and from there to real life as self correcting fairitale :)13 October 2011 04:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ibogaine/ibogaine.shtml
http://www.mindsalive.org/history-of-ibogaine
http://www.ibogaine.desk.nl/mailinglist.html
From there you can find all the other contact you need to ask all the needed questions :)
http://www.mindsalive.org/history-of-ibogaine
http://www.ibogaine.desk.nl/mailinglist.html
From there you can find all the other contact you need to ask all the needed questions :)
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ibogaine/ibogaine.shtml
13 October 2011 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
20.56 : « During initiation we put a mirror in front of the patient, we put on makeup on him. From this moment, the patient looks into the mirror, and begins to see his double personality. He enters into the mirror, he passes through himself, since he’s got himself in front of himself. He penetrates into himself to see exactly who he is inside himself. It’s not a work of hallucination, it’s really a visionary work. It’s really something concrete, “du tac-au-tac”, question/answer.
19Edurne
19Edurne
13 October 2011 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on Bobby Bel's link.
It's time...
Our time also is to combine love with intelligence and spread it around the world with no pay backs, anger, ignorance, is it not?
Instead pointing out other mistakes we can give us-them insightful help and wisdom-like knowledge how they-we can accomplish this what we-they want (Take sad song and make it) better.
We can blame ignorance but not 'them', we as collective power are still ignorant to the life. So, beings who stir it up - get killed (but not only) as the 'order' that is put in place with money and guns and..gets disrupted. No revolutions here. No guru final coal is to make you bitter-angry after one's show is no-more.
What makes we-you angry is changes. But changes seem to be natural things, new things. Are they not needed and do we know where they lead so that we react with emotions as such?
Sending idol to forever land.. It's sad only if one knows death to be opposite of good. But, the ones who have seen the Promised Land & Time, No Fear, Death & Love - who are we to say they want us to 'pay back' to their hangman, so
what would Martin do?
Did idols asked to be other side of river from you? Where would they want you to be with your mind, but why are-was we not?
Who can change more first, we or 'them'? But we are still waiting 'them' to change and trust us first? Waiting what, next year?
Respond unintelligent actions only with as intelligently as you can imagine, it's not a secret that it will bring success.
Why the movement failed, how did it go so far?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqz_i_AE8Ps
(:w
Our time also is to combine love with intelligence and spread it around the world with no pay backs, anger, ignorance, is it not?
Instead pointing out other mistakes we can give us-them insightful help and wisdom-like knowledge how they-we can accomplish this what we-they want (Take sad song and make it) better.
We can blame ignorance but not 'them', we as collective power are still ignorant to the life. So, beings who stir it up - get killed (but not only) as the 'order' that is put in place with money and guns and..gets disrupted. No revolutions here. No guru final coal is to make you bitter-angry after one's show is no-more.
What makes we-you angry is changes. But changes seem to be natural things, new things. Are they not needed and do we know where they lead so that we react with emotions as such?
Sending idol to forever land.. It's sad only if one knows death to be opposite of good. But, the ones who have seen the Promised Land & Time, No Fear, Death & Love - who are we to say they want us to 'pay back' to their hangman, so
what would Martin do?
Did idols asked to be other side of river from you? Where would they want you to be with your mind, but why are-was we not?
Who can change more first, we or 'them'? But we are still waiting 'them' to change and trust us first? Waiting what, next year?
Respond unintelligent actions only with as intelligently as you can imagine, it's not a secret that it will bring success.
Why the movement failed, how did it go so far?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqz_i_AE8Ps
(:w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqz_i_AE8Ps
13 October 2011 02:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Jup, pretty amazing how well it was made to bring the real point to the viewer. Surprisingly few people have seen it in cinema.
12 October 2011 16:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Nicomachean Ethics
By Aristotle
Written 350 B.C.E
http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/nicomachaen.1.i.html
By Aristotle
Written 350 B.C.E
http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/nicomachaen.1.i.html
http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/nicomachaen.1.i.html
12 October 2011 04:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
1. First worship the Immortal Gods, as they
are established and ordained by the Law.
2. Reverence the Oath, and next the Heroes,
full of goodness and light.
3. Honor likewise the Terrestrial Guiding
Spirits by rendering them the worship
lawfully due to them.
4. Honor likewise your parents and those
most nearly related to you.
5. Of all the rest of humanity, make friends
with those who distinguish themselves by
their virtue.
6. Always give ear to their mild exhortations,
and take example from their virtuous and
useful actions.
7. Avoid as much as possible hating your
friend for a slight fault.
8. [And understand that] power is a near
neighbor to necessity.
9. Know that all these things are as I have
told you; and accustom yourself to overcome
and vanquish the following passions:
10. First gluttony, sloth, sensuality, and anger.
11. Do nothing evil, neither in the presence
of others, nor privately;
12. But above all things respect yourself.
13. In the next place, observe justice in your
actions and in your words.
14. And do not involve yourself in anything
without rule or reason.
15. But always realize that it is ordained by
destiny that all human beings shall die,
16. And that the goods of fortune are
uncertain; and that as they may be acquired,
so may they likewise be lost.
17. Concerning all the calamities that
humans suffer by divine fortune,
18. Support with patience your lot, be it what
it may, and never repine at it.
19. But endeavor what you can to remedy it,
20. And consider that fate does not send
the greatest portion of these misfortunes to
good people.
21. There are many possibilities that people
can choose from, both good and bad;
22. So, from among the possibilities, carefully
choose the best path for yourself.
23. But if falsehoods be advanced, hear
them with mildness, and arm yourself
with patience.
24. Observe well, on every occasion, what I
am going to tell you:
25. Let no person, either through words or
deeds, ever seduce you.
26. Nor entice you to say or to do what is not
beneficial for yourself.
27. Consult and deliberate before you act,
that you may not commit foolish actions.
28. For it is the mark of a miserable person to
speak and to act without reflection.
29. But do that which will not afflict you
afterwards, nor oblige you to repentance.
30. Never do anything which you do not
understand.
31. Learn all you ought to know, and thus
you will lead a very pleasant life.
32. In no way neglect the health of your body;
33. Give it drink and food in due measure,
and also the exercise of which it has need.
34. Now, by measure, I mean what will not inconvenience you.
35. Accustom yourself to a way of living that
is neat and decent without luxury.
36. Avoid all things that will occasion envy.
37. And be not prodigal out of season,
like one who knows not what is decent
and honorable.
38. Be neither covetous nor stingy; a modest
measure is excellent in these things.
39. Do only that which will not hurt you,
and think carefully about what you are going
to do before you do it.
40. Never fall asleep after going to bed,
41. Till you have carefully considered all your
actions of the day:
42. Where have I gone amiss? What have I
done? What have I omitted that I ought to
have done?
43. If in this examination you find that you
have gone amiss, reprimand yourself severely
for it;
44. And if you have done any good, rejoice.
45. Practice thoroughly all these things;
meditate on them well, for you ought to love
them with all your heart.
46. It is they that will put you on the path of
divine virtue.
47. I swear it by the one who has transmitted
into our souls the Sacred Quaternion, the
source of nature, whose cause is eternal.
48. But never begin to set your hand to any
work, till you have first prayed to the gods to
accomplish what you are about to begin.
. . . observe justice in your
actions and in your words.
49. When you have become familiar with
this habit,
50. You will know the constitution of the
Immortal Gods and of humans.
51. Even the extent of the power of gods and
humans, and what contains and binds them
together.
52. You shall likewise know that according to
Law, the nature of this universe flows through
all things alike,
53. So that you shall not hope for what you
ought not to hope; and nothing in this world
shall be hidden from you.
54. You will likewise know that human
beings bring on their own misfortunes,
voluntarily and of their own free choice.
55. Unhappy that they are! They neither see
nor understand that what is best for them is
within them.
56. Few know how to deliver themselves out
of their misfortunes.
57. Such is the fate that blinds humanity,
and takes away their senses.
58. Like huge barrels they roll to and
fro, always oppressed with innumerable
problems.
59. For fatal strife, seemingly innate, pursues
them everywhere, tossing them up and
down; nor do they perceive this.
60. Instead of provoking and stirring up
strife, they ought, by yielding, to avoid it.
61. Oh! Jupiter, our Father! If you would
deliver humans from all the evils that oppress
them,
62. Show them the veil of ignorance that
blinds their eyes.
63. But take courage: the human race is divine:
64. Sacred nature reveals to them the most
hidden mysteries.
65. If she imparts to you her secrets, you will
easily perform all the things for which I have
ordained you,
66. And by the healing of your soul, you shall
deliver it from all evils, from all afflictions.
67. But abstain from meat, which will
prevent you from the purifying and the
deliverance of your soul;
68. Carefully distinguish between things,
and examine all things well.
69. Leaving yourself to always be guided and
directed by the understanding that comes
from above, allowing it to control your
destiny.
70. And when you have eventually divested
yourself of your mortal body, you will arrive
at the most pure Æther,
71. And you shall be a God—immortal,
incorruptible—and Death shall have no
more dominion over you.
http://peopleoftheworldblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/golden-verses-of-pythagoras.html
http://www.rosicrucian.org/publications/digest/digest1_2009/05_web/04_golden_verses/04_golden_verses.pdf
are established and ordained by the Law.
2. Reverence the Oath, and next the Heroes,
full of goodness and light.
3. Honor likewise the Terrestrial Guiding
Spirits by rendering them the worship
lawfully due to them.
4. Honor likewise your parents and those
most nearly related to you.
5. Of all the rest of humanity, make friends
with those who distinguish themselves by
their virtue.
6. Always give ear to their mild exhortations,
and take example from their virtuous and
useful actions.
7. Avoid as much as possible hating your
friend for a slight fault.
8. [And understand that] power is a near
neighbor to necessity.
9. Know that all these things are as I have
told you; and accustom yourself to overcome
and vanquish the following passions:
10. First gluttony, sloth, sensuality, and anger.
11. Do nothing evil, neither in the presence
of others, nor privately;
12. But above all things respect yourself.
13. In the next place, observe justice in your
actions and in your words.
14. And do not involve yourself in anything
without rule or reason.
15. But always realize that it is ordained by
destiny that all human beings shall die,
16. And that the goods of fortune are
uncertain; and that as they may be acquired,
so may they likewise be lost.
17. Concerning all the calamities that
humans suffer by divine fortune,
18. Support with patience your lot, be it what
it may, and never repine at it.
19. But endeavor what you can to remedy it,
20. And consider that fate does not send
the greatest portion of these misfortunes to
good people.
21. There are many possibilities that people
can choose from, both good and bad;
22. So, from among the possibilities, carefully
choose the best path for yourself.
23. But if falsehoods be advanced, hear
them with mildness, and arm yourself
with patience.
24. Observe well, on every occasion, what I
am going to tell you:
25. Let no person, either through words or
deeds, ever seduce you.
26. Nor entice you to say or to do what is not
beneficial for yourself.
27. Consult and deliberate before you act,
that you may not commit foolish actions.
28. For it is the mark of a miserable person to
speak and to act without reflection.
29. But do that which will not afflict you
afterwards, nor oblige you to repentance.
30. Never do anything which you do not
understand.
31. Learn all you ought to know, and thus
you will lead a very pleasant life.
32. In no way neglect the health of your body;
33. Give it drink and food in due measure,
and also the exercise of which it has need.
34. Now, by measure, I mean what will not inconvenience you.
35. Accustom yourself to a way of living that
is neat and decent without luxury.
36. Avoid all things that will occasion envy.
37. And be not prodigal out of season,
like one who knows not what is decent
and honorable.
38. Be neither covetous nor stingy; a modest
measure is excellent in these things.
39. Do only that which will not hurt you,
and think carefully about what you are going
to do before you do it.
40. Never fall asleep after going to bed,
41. Till you have carefully considered all your
actions of the day:
42. Where have I gone amiss? What have I
done? What have I omitted that I ought to
have done?
43. If in this examination you find that you
have gone amiss, reprimand yourself severely
for it;
44. And if you have done any good, rejoice.
45. Practice thoroughly all these things;
meditate on them well, for you ought to love
them with all your heart.
46. It is they that will put you on the path of
divine virtue.
47. I swear it by the one who has transmitted
into our souls the Sacred Quaternion, the
source of nature, whose cause is eternal.
48. But never begin to set your hand to any
work, till you have first prayed to the gods to
accomplish what you are about to begin.
. . . observe justice in your
actions and in your words.
49. When you have become familiar with
this habit,
50. You will know the constitution of the
Immortal Gods and of humans.
51. Even the extent of the power of gods and
humans, and what contains and binds them
together.
52. You shall likewise know that according to
Law, the nature of this universe flows through
all things alike,
53. So that you shall not hope for what you
ought not to hope; and nothing in this world
shall be hidden from you.
54. You will likewise know that human
beings bring on their own misfortunes,
voluntarily and of their own free choice.
55. Unhappy that they are! They neither see
nor understand that what is best for them is
within them.
56. Few know how to deliver themselves out
of their misfortunes.
57. Such is the fate that blinds humanity,
and takes away their senses.
58. Like huge barrels they roll to and
fro, always oppressed with innumerable
problems.
59. For fatal strife, seemingly innate, pursues
them everywhere, tossing them up and
down; nor do they perceive this.
60. Instead of provoking and stirring up
strife, they ought, by yielding, to avoid it.
61. Oh! Jupiter, our Father! If you would
deliver humans from all the evils that oppress
them,
62. Show them the veil of ignorance that
blinds their eyes.
63. But take courage: the human race is divine:
64. Sacred nature reveals to them the most
hidden mysteries.
65. If she imparts to you her secrets, you will
easily perform all the things for which I have
ordained you,
66. And by the healing of your soul, you shall
deliver it from all evils, from all afflictions.
67. But abstain from meat, which will
prevent you from the purifying and the
deliverance of your soul;
68. Carefully distinguish between things,
and examine all things well.
69. Leaving yourself to always be guided and
directed by the understanding that comes
from above, allowing it to control your
destiny.
70. And when you have eventually divested
yourself of your mortal body, you will arrive
at the most pure Æther,
71. And you shall be a God—immortal,
incorruptible—and Death shall have no
more dominion over you.
http://peopleoftheworldblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/golden-verses-of-pythagoras.html
http://www.rosicrucian.org/publications/digest/digest1_2009/05_web/04_golden_verses/04_golden_verses.pdf
http://peopleoftheworldblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/golden-verses-of-pythagoras.html
12 October 2011 04:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You know this song?
12 October 2011 03:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I have jet to discover how much more value the directors cut offers, but if i see some serious differences i will let you guys know
12 October 2011 03:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
You can get the movie from torrent or/and buy it from amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Revolver-Blu-ray-Jason-Statham/dp/B001F7Q4HK/
http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/5330553/Revolver[2005]DVDRip[XviD]AC3_5.1[Eng]BlueLady.5330553.TPB.torrent
(mitte see suur roheline nupp, not the big Green button:)
http://www.amazon.com/Revolver-Blu-ray-Jason-Statham/dp/B001F7Q4HK/
http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/5330553/Revolver[2005]DVDRip[XviD]AC3_5.1[Eng]BlueLady.5330553.TPB.torrent
(mitte see suur roheline nupp, not the big Green button:)
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001F7Q4HK/ref=tsm_1_fb_lk
12 October 2011 03:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Will be there!
Ootame Eestlasi osalema! Võtke ühendust Heleri ga asap :)
Ootame Eestlasi osalema! Võtke ühendust Heleri ga asap :)
12 October 2011 00:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
damn i sound so boring when no plants are near by i susbect :P
11 October 2011 23:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
This doc seemed purely business and re-telling some old known stories. But still, why all this work and no talk about some most profound things that are related to cannabis plant. Like how people values can change to the better, how there is big difference between party smoking and in 'spiritual' setting, alone and whit loved one's, etc.
Makes me wonder sometimes what is the purpose of these docs (avarage value of mari doc's should be High imho). Will try to work on one doc also in future, to see if we can do better : )
Makes me wonder sometimes what is the purpose of these docs (avarage value of mari doc's should be High imho). Will try to work on one doc also in future, to see if we can do better : )
11 October 2011 23:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Dean Radin, PhD
Author of "The Conscious Universe," senior researcher at IONS, international speaker and cofounder of the Boundary Institute
originally an electrical engineer, conducted research at prestigious US companies such as AT&T Bell Laboratories and GTE Laboratories. Ultimately, he left communication technology to study human communication
He has also participated in Silicon Valley think-tanks, including SRI International, where he was part of a classified program investigating psychic phenomena for the US government
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/dean-radin
Dr. Eric Pearl
Internationally known healer, teacher and author of the bestselling book, "The Reconnection: Heal Others, Heal Yourself".
Pearl travels the globe, teaching his healing techniques. To date, he has taught more than 40,000 Reconnective Healing Practitioners in more than 60 countries
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/eric-pearl
Edgar Mitchell, PhD
Scientist, Apollo 14 astronaut, naval officer, lecturer, author, founder of Ions, cofounder Association of Space Explorers
After retiring from the Navy in 1972, Dr. Mitchell founded the Institute of Noetic Sciences to sponsor research into the nature of consciousness as it relates to cosmology and causality
He authored books, “Psychic Exploration: A challenge for science” and “The Way of the Explorer: An Apollo Astronaut’s Journey Through the Material and Mystical Worlds,
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/edgar-mitchell
Marilyn Mandala Schlitz, PhD
President of IONS, scientist, anthropologist, author and researcher at Research Institute of California Pacific Medical Ctr
She has conducted clinical and field-based research, delving into the powers of the mind, including remote viewing, mind over matter and distant intention and healing
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/marilyn-mandala-schlitz
Rollin McCraty, PhD
Director of Research at Institute of HeartMath, author, speaker and adjunct professor at Claremont Graduate University
McCraty and his team discovered a profound communication link between the heart and the brain.
Led by McCraty, the HeartMath research team regularly collaborates with scientific, medical and educational institutions such as Stanford University and Miami Heart Research Institute to advance the healing potential of the mind-body connection. He has published his work in journals that include, “The American Journal of Cardiology,” “Stress Medicine,” “Biological Psychology” and “Integrative Physiological and Behavioral Science.”
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/rollin-mcCraty
Bruce Lipton, PhD
Bruce Lipton - Cell biologist, professor at University of Wisconsin Medical School, Stanford University researcher
In 1982, Dr. Bruce Lipton began exploring quantum physics to more fully explain the cell’s information processing systems.
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/bruce-lipton
Arielle Essex
NLP certified coach with Erickson College and international speaker on personal transformation
Essex is a certified NLP Master Practitioner and Trainer with a broad background that includes cranial sacral therapy, naturopathy, kinesiology and psychology
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/arielle-essex
Author of "The Conscious Universe," senior researcher at IONS, international speaker and cofounder of the Boundary Institute
originally an electrical engineer, conducted research at prestigious US companies such as AT&T Bell Laboratories and GTE Laboratories. Ultimately, he left communication technology to study human communication
He has also participated in Silicon Valley think-tanks, including SRI International, where he was part of a classified program investigating psychic phenomena for the US government
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/dean-radin
Dr. Eric Pearl
Internationally known healer, teacher and author of the bestselling book, "The Reconnection: Heal Others, Heal Yourself".
Pearl travels the globe, teaching his healing techniques. To date, he has taught more than 40,000 Reconnective Healing Practitioners in more than 60 countries
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/eric-pearl
Edgar Mitchell, PhD
Scientist, Apollo 14 astronaut, naval officer, lecturer, author, founder of Ions, cofounder Association of Space Explorers
After retiring from the Navy in 1972, Dr. Mitchell founded the Institute of Noetic Sciences to sponsor research into the nature of consciousness as it relates to cosmology and causality
He authored books, “Psychic Exploration: A challenge for science” and “The Way of the Explorer: An Apollo Astronaut’s Journey Through the Material and Mystical Worlds,
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/edgar-mitchell
Marilyn Mandala Schlitz, PhD
President of IONS, scientist, anthropologist, author and researcher at Research Institute of California Pacific Medical Ctr
She has conducted clinical and field-based research, delving into the powers of the mind, including remote viewing, mind over matter and distant intention and healing
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/marilyn-mandala-schlitz
Rollin McCraty, PhD
Director of Research at Institute of HeartMath, author, speaker and adjunct professor at Claremont Graduate University
McCraty and his team discovered a profound communication link between the heart and the brain.
Led by McCraty, the HeartMath research team regularly collaborates with scientific, medical and educational institutions such as Stanford University and Miami Heart Research Institute to advance the healing potential of the mind-body connection. He has published his work in journals that include, “The American Journal of Cardiology,” “Stress Medicine,” “Biological Psychology” and “Integrative Physiological and Behavioral Science.”
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/rollin-mcCraty
Bruce Lipton, PhD
Bruce Lipton - Cell biologist, professor at University of Wisconsin Medical School, Stanford University researcher
In 1982, Dr. Bruce Lipton began exploring quantum physics to more fully explain the cell’s information processing systems.
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/bruce-lipton
Arielle Essex
NLP certified coach with Erickson College and international speaker on personal transformation
Essex is a certified NLP Master Practitioner and Trainer with a broad background that includes cranial sacral therapy, naturopathy, kinesiology and psychology
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/arielle-essex
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/dean-radin
11 October 2011 23:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Fritz-Albert Popp, PhD
Biophysicist, professor, researcher, author and founder of the Institute of International Biophysics
A preeminent German physicist, Fritz-Albert Popp has conducted research that confirms the existence of biophotons. These particles of light, with no mass, transmit information within and between cells
Popp’s biophoton research led to international projects with scientists such as Walter Nagl, Ilya Prigogine and David Bohm. He became an Invited Member of the New York Academy of Sciences and an Invited Foreign Member of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences (RANS). He worked at Princeton University and serves as president of Worms Academy of Reformative Medicine and executive board member of Center for Frontier Sciences at Temple University in Philadelphia.
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/fritz-albert-popp
http://www.lifescientists.de/ib0200e_.htm
Lynne McTaggart
Science journalist Lynne McTaggart is the award-winning author of international bestsellers on quantum health and consciousness. In "The Field," she uncovers a picture of an interconnected universe
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/lynne-mcTaggart
Rupert Sheldrake, PhD
Author, professor and Cambridge biologist, director of the Perrott-Warrick Project
Professor, biologist and author Rupert Sheldrake has a string degrees and fellowships from prestigious universities in England and the US, but is perhaps best known for his research on morphogenetic fields.
Rupert Sheldrake has written more than 75 scientific papers and 10 books
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/rupert-sheldrake
James L. Oschman, PhD
Biophysicist, cell biologist, researcher, lecturer, widely published in scientific journals, author of energy medicine books.
Biophysicist and cell biologist James Oschman is one of the few academic scientists to explore the relationship between complementary and alternative medicines. He has published 26 full-length scientific articles in academic scientific journals and 40 articles in alternative and complementary therapy journals
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/james-oschman
Peter Fraser
Professor of acupuncture, expert in traditonal Chinese medicine, bioenergetic scientist and author "Decoding The Human Bodyfield"
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/peter-fraser
Dean Radin, PhD
Author of "The Conscious Universe," senior researcher at IONS, international speaker and cofounder of the Boundary Institute
originally an electrical engineer, conducted research at prestigious US companies such as AT&T Bell Laboratories and GTE Laboratories. Ultimately, he left communication technology to study human communication
He has also participated in Silicon Valley think-tanks, including SRI International, where he was part of a classified program investigating psychic phenomena for the US government
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/dean-radin
Herman Koning, MD
Founder of Dutch Doctors’ Association for Biophysical Medicine, medical director of Medipoint
he branched out to study homeopathy, acupuncture, electro- acupuncture, neural therapy, naturopathic medicine, neuro-linguistic programming, neuro-associative coaching and biophysical medicine. He discovered that each of these approaches offers a micro view of a bigger whole.
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/herman-koning
Folker Meissner, MD
Teacher of TCM and bioenergetics, holistic practitioner, founder of German Academy for Energy Medicine & Bioenergetics
Through his research, Dr. Meissner developed a bioenergetic method of identifying and eliminating what he determined is the cause of chronic illnesses and disorders. These origins of ill health are what he calls the foci of disturbance (FOD).
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/folker-meissner
Dietmar Cimbal, DVM
Veterinary doctor and biophysics researcher, was among the first to make a wireless transfer of biological data. He conducts research on pulse wave theory and biotelemetry.
He continues to explore the frontier between physics and medicine.
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/dietmar-cimbal
Howard Martin
Executive Vice President, Strategic Development HeartMath, international speaker, author, and musician
Martin has conducted HeartMath training and keynote presentations for Fortune 100 companies, government agencies, all four branches of the U.S. military, school systems, ecumenical organizations and through publicly promoted events in over 50 cities on four continents.
In 2008 he played a key role in launching the Global Coherence Initiative. He serves on the steering committee of this science-based project, created to unite millions of people in heart-focused care and intention to shift global consciousness.
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/howard-martin
Deborah Rozman, PhD
President and Co-CEO of Quantum Intech
Deborah Rozman holds a doctorate in child psychology and child development and has 30 years of experience as a psychologist, educator, author and business executive
Prior to joining HeartMath she held executive positions at biotech firms Phycotene and Biogenics
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/deborah-rozman
Adam DreamHealer, BSc
Molecular biologist, NHPC certified energy healer, international speaker and author, Adam is a gifted young energy healer
He combines his Native American ancestry, healing background and channeled insights with his academic background to integrate mind, body and spirit.
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/adam-dreamhealer
Biophysicist, professor, researcher, author and founder of the Institute of International Biophysics
A preeminent German physicist, Fritz-Albert Popp has conducted research that confirms the existence of biophotons. These particles of light, with no mass, transmit information within and between cells
Popp’s biophoton research led to international projects with scientists such as Walter Nagl, Ilya Prigogine and David Bohm. He became an Invited Member of the New York Academy of Sciences and an Invited Foreign Member of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences (RANS). He worked at Princeton University and serves as president of Worms Academy of Reformative Medicine and executive board member of Center for Frontier Sciences at Temple University in Philadelphia.
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/fritz-albert-popp
http://www.lifescientists.de/ib0200e_.htm
Lynne McTaggart
Science journalist Lynne McTaggart is the award-winning author of international bestsellers on quantum health and consciousness. In "The Field," she uncovers a picture of an interconnected universe
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/lynne-mcTaggart
Rupert Sheldrake, PhD
Author, professor and Cambridge biologist, director of the Perrott-Warrick Project
Professor, biologist and author Rupert Sheldrake has a string degrees and fellowships from prestigious universities in England and the US, but is perhaps best known for his research on morphogenetic fields.
Rupert Sheldrake has written more than 75 scientific papers and 10 books
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/rupert-sheldrake
James L. Oschman, PhD
Biophysicist, cell biologist, researcher, lecturer, widely published in scientific journals, author of energy medicine books.
Biophysicist and cell biologist James Oschman is one of the few academic scientists to explore the relationship between complementary and alternative medicines. He has published 26 full-length scientific articles in academic scientific journals and 40 articles in alternative and complementary therapy journals
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/james-oschman
Peter Fraser
Professor of acupuncture, expert in traditonal Chinese medicine, bioenergetic scientist and author "Decoding The Human Bodyfield"
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/peter-fraser
Dean Radin, PhD
Author of "The Conscious Universe," senior researcher at IONS, international speaker and cofounder of the Boundary Institute
originally an electrical engineer, conducted research at prestigious US companies such as AT&T Bell Laboratories and GTE Laboratories. Ultimately, he left communication technology to study human communication
He has also participated in Silicon Valley think-tanks, including SRI International, where he was part of a classified program investigating psychic phenomena for the US government
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/dean-radin
Herman Koning, MD
Founder of Dutch Doctors’ Association for Biophysical Medicine, medical director of Medipoint
he branched out to study homeopathy, acupuncture, electro- acupuncture, neural therapy, naturopathic medicine, neuro-linguistic programming, neuro-associative coaching and biophysical medicine. He discovered that each of these approaches offers a micro view of a bigger whole.
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/herman-koning
Folker Meissner, MD
Teacher of TCM and bioenergetics, holistic practitioner, founder of German Academy for Energy Medicine & Bioenergetics
Through his research, Dr. Meissner developed a bioenergetic method of identifying and eliminating what he determined is the cause of chronic illnesses and disorders. These origins of ill health are what he calls the foci of disturbance (FOD).
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/folker-meissner
Dietmar Cimbal, DVM
Veterinary doctor and biophysics researcher, was among the first to make a wireless transfer of biological data. He conducts research on pulse wave theory and biotelemetry.
He continues to explore the frontier between physics and medicine.
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/dietmar-cimbal
Howard Martin
Executive Vice President, Strategic Development HeartMath, international speaker, author, and musician
Martin has conducted HeartMath training and keynote presentations for Fortune 100 companies, government agencies, all four branches of the U.S. military, school systems, ecumenical organizations and through publicly promoted events in over 50 cities on four continents.
In 2008 he played a key role in launching the Global Coherence Initiative. He serves on the steering committee of this science-based project, created to unite millions of people in heart-focused care and intention to shift global consciousness.
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/howard-martin
Deborah Rozman, PhD
President and Co-CEO of Quantum Intech
Deborah Rozman holds a doctorate in child psychology and child development and has 30 years of experience as a psychologist, educator, author and business executive
Prior to joining HeartMath she held executive positions at biotech firms Phycotene and Biogenics
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/deborah-rozman
Adam DreamHealer, BSc
Molecular biologist, NHPC certified energy healer, international speaker and author, Adam is a gifted young energy healer
He combines his Native American ancestry, healing background and channeled insights with his academic background to integrate mind, body and spirit.
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/adam-dreamhealer
http://www.thelivingmatrixmovie.com/en/fritz-albert-popp
11 October 2011 23:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
“Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.”
~Buddha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=9zGK1jFOpi0
The Phoenix Esoteric Society is a group that studies subjects like, Hermetic Qabalah, Jungian Alchemy, Theosophy, Magic and Quantum Physics.
Our goal in this incarnation is to evolve to the Higher Self from the Pseudo-Self. The Pseudo-Self has been created by our culture, social economic status and inherited beliefs. It is an emotional, unstable ego driven conscious mind that causes so much of the trouble and instability in our lives.
We have chosen to discover the secrets of ancient wisdom while at the same time progressing them with science.
As Albert Einstein said; “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”
The question then comes down to what to believe or not believe. This subject was answered very well thousands of years ago.
~Buddha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=9zGK1jFOpi0
The Phoenix Esoteric Society is a group that studies subjects like, Hermetic Qabalah, Jungian Alchemy, Theosophy, Magic and Quantum Physics.
Our goal in this incarnation is to evolve to the Higher Self from the Pseudo-Self. The Pseudo-Self has been created by our culture, social economic status and inherited beliefs. It is an emotional, unstable ego driven conscious mind that causes so much of the trouble and instability in our lives.
We have chosen to discover the secrets of ancient wisdom while at the same time progressing them with science.
As Albert Einstein said; “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”
The question then comes down to what to believe or not believe. This subject was answered very well thousands of years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zGK1jFOpi0
11 October 2011 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on Anonymous Awakening - Truth Stranger Than Fiction's link.
What can we do?
For example 1, if one can find/organize people who are interested to inform other members of same species what is going on, where we seem to be, what can we do about it and what does not help & why.
Then one can take bag with 100 papers (described bellow) and share it with 100 other humanbeings for starters - with in few days it should be possible, jes .
Well, will add some pieces of thoughts more, maybe you can pick some parts up and can use it. Will post rest of it to my some blog later on
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Printing some info to public places where it IS allowed cant hurt - but not the same papers as you hand out ofcourse.
If you see your movement paper on the ground - PICK IT UP. No need to say why.
Also other carbage if you can.
With every humanbeing make Human Contact.
No need to hand out info to the ones who seem to not be really interested about reading it, they might then be more interested about reading it later on.
Ask with open arms, can you please hug other humanbeing, be real, you are not doing a boring rutine job, show example, SIMLE! If you are not in mood Do not join with movement on this day to the streets, it will make no good.
Would be good if you will have your personal/anon email address (made for this action) on all the papers you hand out besides central blog. I can also see use to forward all incoming email to center box for adresses collecting & cc replys also there. Reply to the emails - at least with Auto reply system that 'you cant read now, but will as soon as you can'
Dont just go around your home, go urban arias, arias that you do not visit - but also do not forget the neighbors
It's just first wave, do not worry about media & people - once it's start to roll, its hard to stop - if done right, with a heart, vision and small plan.
After few weeks of giving out papers ALL around, we can -
... but wait who is going to read this here?
umm.. my msg box is open if you find it useful or not
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So as you can imagine it would be good to make some REALLY proper message that at least your college professor, doctor, your mother and girl/guy next door will agree & Like before big print. If you can make message so clear that they Like it - others will also.
Some workshops with open minded friends & random people from street will help. It's easy to make, out of box. Let's not forget that we do it for everyone, including for 'them' with same amount of love as for yourself.
In this realm here, you can do So much with letters... (would be useful to collect people who are good with Words, jes?) but... do we really do this, or will we just give 'them' another option to give us another illusion like we have done some real difference? But actually it all go's according to the plans that we are not pleased with later on?
As 'they' know Long time ago, that one possible times is now. If you would be 'them' and would want to make some big changes, what time besides Now would you be waiting for?
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well, not so good with words ower here
For example 1, if one can find/organize people who are interested to inform other members of same species what is going on, where we seem to be, what can we do about it and what does not help & why.
Then one can take bag with 100 papers (described bellow) and share it with 100 other humanbeings for starters - with in few days it should be possible, jes .
Well, will add some pieces of thoughts more, maybe you can pick some parts up and can use it. Will post rest of it to my some blog later on
---
Printing some info to public places where it IS allowed cant hurt - but not the same papers as you hand out ofcourse.
If you see your movement paper on the ground - PICK IT UP. No need to say why.
Also other carbage if you can.
With every humanbeing make Human Contact.
No need to hand out info to the ones who seem to not be really interested about reading it, they might then be more interested about reading it later on.
Ask with open arms, can you please hug other humanbeing, be real, you are not doing a boring rutine job, show example, SIMLE! If you are not in mood Do not join with movement on this day to the streets, it will make no good.
Would be good if you will have your personal/anon email address (made for this action) on all the papers you hand out besides central blog. I can also see use to forward all incoming email to center box for adresses collecting & cc replys also there. Reply to the emails - at least with Auto reply system that 'you cant read now, but will as soon as you can'
Dont just go around your home, go urban arias, arias that you do not visit - but also do not forget the neighbors
It's just first wave, do not worry about media & people - once it's start to roll, its hard to stop - if done right, with a heart, vision and small plan.
After few weeks of giving out papers ALL around, we can -
... but wait who is going to read this here?
umm.. my msg box is open if you find it useful or not
---
So as you can imagine it would be good to make some REALLY proper message that at least your college professor, doctor, your mother and girl/guy next door will agree & Like before big print. If you can make message so clear that they Like it - others will also.
Some workshops with open minded friends & random people from street will help. It's easy to make, out of box. Let's not forget that we do it for everyone, including for 'them' with same amount of love as for yourself.
In this realm here, you can do So much with letters... (would be useful to collect people who are good with Words, jes?) but... do we really do this, or will we just give 'them' another option to give us another illusion like we have done some real difference? But actually it all go's according to the plans that we are not pleased with later on?
As 'they' know Long time ago, that one possible times is now. If you would be 'them' and would want to make some big changes, what time besides Now would you be waiting for?
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well, not so good with words ower here
11 October 2011 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on Anonymous Awakening - Truth Stranger Than Fiction's link.
Did not see it also, but well, it might be the cause of not looking TV :)
protesting and marching is all good, but we should first Really worry about how to be free inside, And offer some Real solutions (that They/We can work with, out of box) and free labor/training if needed for the cause.
To many revolutions have wasted as there was no thought out plan besides something that 'they" have to change. We are the ones who shop, abuse digital drugs in ways we do not understand, drink, eat crap, do not investigate, vote for people to rule as - and most all, have allowed most of it to happen.
Yes, in a way it's wicked to walk on streets and irritate police who cant do a lot, but let's now try to walk with mass of people in to these arias, in to these home streets who are one of the biggest sources of the problem . Yes, you can hope that police comes to protect you if things go wrong but it might not as it might be their home street.
In short - WHAT now?
protesting and marching is all good, but we should first Really worry about how to be free inside, And offer some Real solutions (that They/We can work with, out of box) and free labor/training if needed for the cause.
To many revolutions have wasted as there was no thought out plan besides something that 'they" have to change. We are the ones who shop, abuse digital drugs in ways we do not understand, drink, eat crap, do not investigate, vote for people to rule as - and most all, have allowed most of it to happen.
Yes, in a way it's wicked to walk on streets and irritate police who cant do a lot, but let's now try to walk with mass of people in to these arias, in to these home streets who are one of the biggest sources of the problem . Yes, you can hope that police comes to protect you if things go wrong but it might not as it might be their home street.
In short - WHAT now?
10 October 2011 19:40
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Andersen's link.
The Sign of the Cross
Eleven saintly shrouded men
Silhouettes stand against the sky
One in front with a cross held high
Come to wash my sins away
Standing alone in the wind and rain
Feeling the fear that is growing
Sensing the change in the tide again
Brought by the storm that is brewing
Feel the anxiety hold off the fear
Some of the doubt in the things you believe
Now that your faith will be put to the test
Nothing to do but await what is coming
Why then is god still protecting me
Even when I don't deserve it
Thought I am blessed with an inner strength
Some they would call it a penance
Why am I meant to face this alone
Asking the question time and again
Praying to God won't keep me alive
Inside my head feel the fear start to rise...
They'll be saying their prayers
when the moment comes
There'll be penance to pay when it's judgement day
And the guilty'll bleed when the moment comes
They'll be coming to claim,
take your soul away
The sign of the cross
The name of the rose...
a fire in the sky
The sign of the cross
They'll be coming to bring the eternal flame
They'll be bringing us all immortality
Holding communion so the world be blessed
My creator my God'll lay my soul to rest
Lost the love of heaven above
Chose the lust of the earth below
Eleven saintly shrouded men
Came to wash my sins away
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoxwjLdNmXc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8knn1_5X7Ns (The Name of the Rose edit)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091605/
http://ca.isohunt.com/download/22815102/The+Name+of+the+Rose.torrent
http://www.catholictradition.org/Classics/signum-crucis.htm
http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/16968/1/DESC/
Lugemist kõigest ühelt lehelt kus laulude tähenduste üle vesteldakse
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typical heavy metal christian bashing song
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I don't know how anyone who has read the lyrics above could say that this is Bible bashing, unless they are so poorly educated and thick or so anti-metal that they can't/don't wnat to understand it.
Iron Maiden have released a number of tracks with a pro-religious theme/content and have derided the false priests and money grabbing scamartists who use religion to enrich themselves. But because they have also released songs with darker and deeper meanings/tones, they are derided based upon uninformed ignorance.
I see a very pro-religious theme and meaning in this song. If anyone wants to look further into some of the bands motivations, put Nicko McBrain into Google & read some of the results - the man is a committed Born-Again Christian.
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I am not going to attempt to interpret the meaning much, but the opening verse is clearly meant to bring to mind the Genesis song "Supper's Ready" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvf5qKAP6v4 - a song which generates even More debate about what the heck it means with its religious imagery:
"Six saintly shrouded men move across the lawn slowly.
The seventh walks in front with a cross held high in hand.
...And it's hey babe your supper's waiting for you.
Hey my baby, don't you know our love is true."
(I don't know what Supper's Ready is about either, but seeing it performed by the tribute band "The Musical Box", who recreate the entire Genesis stage show, is certainly a pretty spiritual experience - too young to have seen the original live.)
As for Maiden, if they want to sing songs with spiritual themes, then good on 'em. I am not going to interpret anything as religion bashing simply because it mentions God, but then again there is plenty of religion bashing in the Bible itself, including from the prophets, John the Baptist, and Jesus himself. Religion bashing doesn't automatically make you anti-God
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I think Steve Harris cheated on his first wife, Lorraine, and this song is about his guilt over it. If not cheated, then fell in love with someone else.
Ok, that's quite an accusation, I know, but hear me out.
What do we know? Well, according to Run To The Hills, the official biography, Steve and Lorraine were childhood sweethearts, they were married for 15 years, and they have 4 children together. So far, so good.
We also know that they divorced during the early 90s, which was going through at the time of The X Factor, hence a lot of its dark tone. We know that Lorraine is thanked in the Fear Of The Dark sleeve notes, yet not mentioned in those on The X Factor, replaced with Emily Harris. I can only assume that's Steve's new wife, since shes not a new child.
Now, is it really that much of a leap to suggest that the pretty serious sin several other reviewers have mentioned was cheating on his wife? The line I think that really gives it away is Lost the love of Heaven above, chose the lust of the Earth below. That suggests to me that he tried to stop himself falling for someone else, but didn't manage it.
So we get the guilty bits: "Why then is God still protecting me, even when I don't deserve it?" (Which is remarkably close to "There are times when I've wondered, and times when I've cried, when my prayers, they were answered at times when I've lied" from 'No Prayer For The Dying'), the lonely bits: "Standing alone in the wind and rain, Why am I meant to face this alone?" and the acceptance: "Eleven saintly, shrouded men came to wash my sins away".
There are a couple of other rather telling moments on the album, primarily:
" If you could live your life again
Would you change a thing or leave it all the same
If you had the chance again
Would you change a thing at all
When you look back at your past
Can you say that you are proud of what you've done
Are there times when you believe
That the right you thought was wrong"
from 'Judgement Of Heaven', and the whole of 'The Unbeliever' is along similar lines, strongly suggesting that the writer is not proud of decisions they have made in the past (Do you feel you've lost your self esteem and your self respect, what can you expect?). Personally, I think cheating on ones wife, or falling in love with someone else while still married, sounds like something to regret.
I mean no disrespect to Steve Harris by any of this, whatever happened, his life, his call, not my place to pass judgement either way. If I'm wrong, then I'm sorry, cause that's gotta sound pretty harsh.
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"Lost the love of hevaen above, choose the lust of the earth below" seems to be a indication that he has sinned somewhat. But i think its wrong to take them at face value, with such an un straight forward song.
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the lyrics have some very powerful images, and the instrumental section in the middle is a masterpiece.
as for the meaning, i reckon its mainly about someone who has commited a pretty serious sin, and he has to be cleansed of it in some way, some sort of test of faith. it's about his doubts and fears on the way. in the end, he fails the test "lost the love of heaven above, chose the lust of the earth below"
also i agree with Nibber about it relating to the rapture and associated events
also, there's a bit a reference to "the rose", which is what paranoid conspiracy theorist - type da vinci code fans call mary magdalene. only a minor theme here but theres a lot of it in maiden's "revelations"
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It seems as though someone has done somthing unforgivable, and will be punished for it, by death, i think, and doesn't think he's worthy of forgivness, but realizes that God will forgive him, 'cause God forgives anyone who's truly sorry for their sins.
Eleven saintly shrouded men
Silhouettes stand against the sky
One in front with a cross held high
Come to wash my sins away
Standing alone in the wind and rain
Feeling the fear that is growing
Sensing the change in the tide again
Brought by the storm that is brewing
Feel the anxiety hold off the fear
Some of the doubt in the things you believe
Now that your faith will be put to the test
Nothing to do but await what is coming
Why then is god still protecting me
Even when I don't deserve it
Thought I am blessed with an inner strength
Some they would call it a penance
Why am I meant to face this alone
Asking the question time and again
Praying to God won't keep me alive
Inside my head feel the fear start to rise...
They'll be saying their prayers
when the moment comes
There'll be penance to pay when it's judgement day
And the guilty'll bleed when the moment comes
They'll be coming to claim,
take your soul away
The sign of the cross
The name of the rose...
a fire in the sky
The sign of the cross
They'll be coming to bring the eternal flame
They'll be bringing us all immortality
Holding communion so the world be blessed
My creator my God'll lay my soul to rest
Lost the love of heaven above
Chose the lust of the earth below
Eleven saintly shrouded men
Came to wash my sins away
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoxwjLdNmXc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8knn1_5X7Ns (The Name of the Rose edit)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091605/
http://ca.isohunt.com/download/22815102/The+Name+of+the+Rose.torrent
http://www.catholictradition.org/Classics/signum-crucis.htm
http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/16968/1/DESC/
Lugemist kõigest ühelt lehelt kus laulude tähenduste üle vesteldakse
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typical heavy metal christian bashing song
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I don't know how anyone who has read the lyrics above could say that this is Bible bashing, unless they are so poorly educated and thick or so anti-metal that they can't/don't wnat to understand it.
Iron Maiden have released a number of tracks with a pro-religious theme/content and have derided the false priests and money grabbing scamartists who use religion to enrich themselves. But because they have also released songs with darker and deeper meanings/tones, they are derided based upon uninformed ignorance.
I see a very pro-religious theme and meaning in this song. If anyone wants to look further into some of the bands motivations, put Nicko McBrain into Google & read some of the results - the man is a committed Born-Again Christian.
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I am not going to attempt to interpret the meaning much, but the opening verse is clearly meant to bring to mind the Genesis song "Supper's Ready" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvf5qKAP6v4 - a song which generates even More debate about what the heck it means with its religious imagery:
"Six saintly shrouded men move across the lawn slowly.
The seventh walks in front with a cross held high in hand.
...And it's hey babe your supper's waiting for you.
Hey my baby, don't you know our love is true."
(I don't know what Supper's Ready is about either, but seeing it performed by the tribute band "The Musical Box", who recreate the entire Genesis stage show, is certainly a pretty spiritual experience - too young to have seen the original live.)
As for Maiden, if they want to sing songs with spiritual themes, then good on 'em. I am not going to interpret anything as religion bashing simply because it mentions God, but then again there is plenty of religion bashing in the Bible itself, including from the prophets, John the Baptist, and Jesus himself. Religion bashing doesn't automatically make you anti-God
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I think Steve Harris cheated on his first wife, Lorraine, and this song is about his guilt over it. If not cheated, then fell in love with someone else.
Ok, that's quite an accusation, I know, but hear me out.
What do we know? Well, according to Run To The Hills, the official biography, Steve and Lorraine were childhood sweethearts, they were married for 15 years, and they have 4 children together. So far, so good.
We also know that they divorced during the early 90s, which was going through at the time of The X Factor, hence a lot of its dark tone. We know that Lorraine is thanked in the Fear Of The Dark sleeve notes, yet not mentioned in those on The X Factor, replaced with Emily Harris. I can only assume that's Steve's new wife, since shes not a new child.
Now, is it really that much of a leap to suggest that the pretty serious sin several other reviewers have mentioned was cheating on his wife? The line I think that really gives it away is Lost the love of Heaven above, chose the lust of the Earth below. That suggests to me that he tried to stop himself falling for someone else, but didn't manage it.
So we get the guilty bits: "Why then is God still protecting me, even when I don't deserve it?" (Which is remarkably close to "There are times when I've wondered, and times when I've cried, when my prayers, they were answered at times when I've lied" from 'No Prayer For The Dying'), the lonely bits: "Standing alone in the wind and rain, Why am I meant to face this alone?" and the acceptance: "Eleven saintly, shrouded men came to wash my sins away".
There are a couple of other rather telling moments on the album, primarily:
" If you could live your life again
Would you change a thing or leave it all the same
If you had the chance again
Would you change a thing at all
When you look back at your past
Can you say that you are proud of what you've done
Are there times when you believe
That the right you thought was wrong"
from 'Judgement Of Heaven', and the whole of 'The Unbeliever' is along similar lines, strongly suggesting that the writer is not proud of decisions they have made in the past (Do you feel you've lost your self esteem and your self respect, what can you expect?). Personally, I think cheating on ones wife, or falling in love with someone else while still married, sounds like something to regret.
I mean no disrespect to Steve Harris by any of this, whatever happened, his life, his call, not my place to pass judgement either way. If I'm wrong, then I'm sorry, cause that's gotta sound pretty harsh.
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"Lost the love of hevaen above, choose the lust of the earth below" seems to be a indication that he has sinned somewhat. But i think its wrong to take them at face value, with such an un straight forward song.
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the lyrics have some very powerful images, and the instrumental section in the middle is a masterpiece.
as for the meaning, i reckon its mainly about someone who has commited a pretty serious sin, and he has to be cleansed of it in some way, some sort of test of faith. it's about his doubts and fears on the way. in the end, he fails the test "lost the love of heaven above, chose the lust of the earth below"
also i agree with Nibber about it relating to the rapture and associated events
also, there's a bit a reference to "the rose", which is what paranoid conspiracy theorist - type da vinci code fans call mary magdalene. only a minor theme here but theres a lot of it in maiden's "revelations"
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It seems as though someone has done somthing unforgivable, and will be punished for it, by death, i think, and doesn't think he's worthy of forgivness, but realizes that God will forgive him, 'cause God forgives anyone who's truly sorry for their sins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoxwjLdNmXc
9 October 2011 14:18
Margus Meigo commented on Brian Wilkes's link.
" ... They had been planning to form an association to share their knowledge collectively..."
8 October 2011 19:24
Margus Meigo commented on Brian Wilkes's link.
Good example how we could also start the day :)
8 October 2011 19:20
Margus Meigo commented on Bröther Owusu-Ankomah's link.
Thank You Brother :)
8 October 2011 18:41
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
" Jobs then traveled to India to visit the Neem Karoli Baba at his Kainchi Ashram with a Reed College friend (and, later, the first Apple employee), Daniel Kottke, in search of spiritual enlightenment. He came back a Buddhist with his head shaved and wearing traditional Indian clothing. During this time, Jobs experimented with psychedelics, calling his LSD experiences "one of the two or three most important things [he had] done in [his] life".
He later said that people around him who did not share his countercultural roots could not fully relate to his thinking
(like with many people who take LSD and end up in 'higher thinking levels') "
He later said that people around him who did not share his countercultural roots could not fully relate to his thinking
(like with many people who take LSD and end up in 'higher thinking levels') "
6 October 2011 19:06
Margus Meigo commented on Organization for Educating Misinformed Tea Party Patriots's photo.
Hard words, but you know - that how it go's.
I am optimistic ;)
I am optimistic ;)
5 October 2011 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on Ed Smith's post.
Group: Psychedelic Society
& i still think, it is possible to get closer to the heart with use of mind and To the mind - why not throught heart might be possible also. Heart without the mind might be sweet or straight wise but mind withouth the heart might become destructive and from there - no intelligent. But can one be wise and without heart? Maybe yes.
For sure, there might be a huge cap between the 'before mind' output and 'new mind+heart', but with out the first 'intelligent' steps, the 'small mind' can really close off the heart (for example small mind who might be smart, but still small - blocks off the usage of psychedelics that might help mind->machine, to connect with heart->life).
Or at least, before i can really feel the bliss and realise my ignorance i say 'maybe yes' the the possibilty that this is how it has gone with critical number of beings in this time, in this earth - if one does excist in any meaningful way
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Not the best explenation of my point of view - will learn soon how to word it, but did it make sense, how did You understand it? How do you disagree/agree?5 October 2011 03:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Will be a full Pig one day :)
5 October 2011 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on Ed Smith's post.
Group: Psychedelic Society
Agree, but who is the maker of the mind, my mind?5 October 2011 03:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
The Pig is true to his goals and beliefs. Their natural simplicity makes Pigs popular and loyal - once a friend, they'll be your friends for life. Pigs can be stubborn, but they will give in for the sake of peace. A Pig is happy to share what he or she has but needs to be the one taking the initiative in giving and wants to be rewarded for it. Sensual and energetic, she is persuasive and perceptive. The Pig sees and remembers everything.
Pigs love the truth and will try to look at things from both sides in order to find it. They can't lie, and so it is not always easy to live with them -- they tell it like it is, every time. They are always trying to strike a balance between what is the right thing to do for themselves and for others. But if you have lied to them once, they will not even consider your opinion again. They are full of wisdom and can discuss anything, since they have checked it all out before they speak. You can trust their knowledge -- they approach things scientifically, with everything being checked in detail. But because of their devotion to the truth above all else, they can be overly critical of others and turn away potential friends.
Pigs love the truth and will try to look at things from both sides in order to find it. They can't lie, and so it is not always easy to live with them -- they tell it like it is, every time. They are always trying to strike a balance between what is the right thing to do for themselves and for others. But if you have lied to them once, they will not even consider your opinion again. They are full of wisdom and can discuss anything, since they have checked it all out before they speak. You can trust their knowledge -- they approach things scientifically, with everything being checked in detail. But because of their devotion to the truth above all else, they can be overly critical of others and turn away potential friends.
5 October 2011 02:53
Margus Meigo commented on Ed Smith's post.
Group: Psychedelic Society
as of now, I might be in need of all three to really grasp the full meaning of this bright sentence Staci
Little help please:)
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Is discern meaning 'to notice'?5 October 2011 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaga_mushroom :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaga_mushroom
4 October 2011 16:25
Margus Meigo commented on Paul Manaila's post.
Group: Psychedelic Society
"Couldn't Find Item
We're sorry, but our server was unable to locate the document whose URL is:
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~jephrean/classweb/alternatives.html"
Can you locate this document from some other place please?http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~jephrean/classweb/alternatives.html
4 October 2011 15:45
Margus Meigo commented on Ed Smith's post.
Group: Psychedelic Society
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtE3cj8AeQ8
Explaining things by the past is refusal to explain them at allhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtE3cj8AeQ8
4 October 2011 15:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
..in co-operation
4 October 2011 15:22
Margus Meigo commented on Ed Smith's post.
Group: Psychedelic Society
As of now our media, news, google results & all that is based on "avarage". & then this is forced to everyone - so it seems it's all dummed down. But it's actually even more whorst then that as they take the avarage from sources that are avarage in sections that are most often by any means no awarage by intelligence point of view, but lower awarage from people who answer internet quizes, play fb games, surf around whith no purpose with a lot of toolbars in browsers & spyware in computers.
Hacker's, wistom seekers, people who are going directly to few locations only to get some good information (and many smartest people who just do not use net's) - their information is not (can not be) tracked so much, they are minorty, they are leavede out.
So then the univesrty 'smart' ones take the data and are guided by the reccomendations of people who want to make money (& also do not know any better what price it bears for the humanty, mostlikelly) - and well, in short - there is no surprice. The ones who 'want' people to be not smart - they are in real minorty among Information Gate Keepers. And also many among these few do it as they see How Stupid things avarage humans do if they access to new possibiltyes
Something like that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Un20p1NGuw
So why should they not trust? The few who are critical about our race?
I am not say, they should, but why should they not?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Un20p1NGuw
4 October 2011 15:18
Margus Meigo commented on Ed Smith's post.
Group: Psychedelic Society
I would want to add emphasis to the word 'Next'
With current times, we can pretty much redefine the 'intelligence' so it reaches out to more people and leaves out the ones who are abstractly smart Only, without the wisdom how to use what one got's for the good of this planet, in this time, Here. If people lacking the abilty for co-operaton there is Possible serious cap in Intelligence that will limit ones possibilty to get near to the results that will be considered intelligent by most others who are considered intelligent by most others.
We also need to define intelligence in ways that it leaves room and unexplored arias would not be closed or looked as unessesory.
http://www.healthofchildren.com/I-K/Intelligence.htmlhttp://www.healthofchildren.com/I-K/Intelligence.html
4 October 2011 15:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
( It means, Kiss in virtual world : )
4 October 2011 14:36
Margus Meigo commented on Johnny BGood's post.
Group: Psychedelic Society
Bad trip is when one wastes he's high for meaningless activities4 October 2011 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on Ed Smith's post.
Group: Psychedelic Society
Next religion will be religion of intelligence4 October 2011 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
But still, i will not Like this doc.
It's a value, mind, changer for many. Was not able to spot this as one of the most important topics. To much editing, to little new info, to much talk about things that really do not need this kind of coverage
No talk about real dangers and changes that this plant Can bring.
People need help - using manual where is listed basics how economy and world works as of now. List of some other great drugs whit instructions how to use (use not). What we know/don't know about Mind & other important topics. What kind of thinking will most likely not help smokers and our race in whole. Some list of great thinkers, interesting topics, philosophers - all that should be listed on smoking manual. It WILL be read by most users with potential, this is all we need.
Be Creative, everything is possible.
It's a value, mind, changer for many. Was not able to spot this as one of the most important topics. To much editing, to little new info, to much talk about things that really do not need this kind of coverage
No talk about real dangers and changes that this plant Can bring.
People need help - using manual where is listed basics how economy and world works as of now. List of some other great drugs whit instructions how to use (use not). What we know/don't know about Mind & other important topics. What kind of thinking will most likely not help smokers and our race in whole. Some list of great thinkers, interesting topics, philosophers - all that should be listed on smoking manual. It WILL be read by most users with potential, this is all we need.
Be Creative, everything is possible.
4 October 2011 02:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The sad thing for many people is that one new habit can actually cut of many other addictions that specially we here, have developed
4 October 2011 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
We are the revolution, baby,
Come to take you home.
If you say you want a revolution, baby,
There is nothing like your own.
We are the revolution, baby,
Come to set you free.
After you revolution, baby,
There is nothing you can't be.
Man's been killing the tigers -
Turn the green fields into sand.
And their saying how much they respect our work
Oh god and his final hand.
But the world spins on regardless,
Which is lucky for you and me,
Cause of all the places in the years right from here
This is the only place to be
We are the revolution,
Come to take you home.
If you say you want a revolution, baby,
There is nothing like your own.
We are the revolution, baby,
Come to set you free.
After you revolution, baby,
There is nothing you can't be.
Don't need a red light.
Don't need a blue light.
Don't need a yellow light
Take off from the green light now.
Take off from the green light now.
Take off from the green light now.
We got a revolution, baby,
Come to take you home.
If you say you want a revolution
There is nothing like your own
We are the revolution, baby.
We've come to set you free.
After you revolution, baby,
There is nothing you can't be.
Come to take you home.
If you say you want a revolution, baby,
There is nothing like your own.
We are the revolution, baby,
Come to set you free.
After you revolution, baby,
There is nothing you can't be.
Man's been killing the tigers -
Turn the green fields into sand.
And their saying how much they respect our work
Oh god and his final hand.
But the world spins on regardless,
Which is lucky for you and me,
Cause of all the places in the years right from here
This is the only place to be
We are the revolution,
Come to take you home.
If you say you want a revolution, baby,
There is nothing like your own.
We are the revolution, baby,
Come to set you free.
After you revolution, baby,
There is nothing you can't be.
Don't need a red light.
Don't need a blue light.
Don't need a yellow light
Take off from the green light now.
Take off from the green light now.
Take off from the green light now.
We got a revolution, baby,
Come to take you home.
If you say you want a revolution
There is nothing like your own
We are the revolution, baby.
We've come to set you free.
After you revolution, baby,
There is nothing you can't be.
3 October 2011 23:47
Margus Meigo commented on Dipankar Bahirvani's photo.
Is that apple poisoned?
3 October 2011 17:27
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiKM6g-dfBo#t=2m
:)
:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiKM6g-dfBo
3 October 2011 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on Antti Räsänen's post.
We well see you again, for sure! :)
Seekers are great!
Seekers are great!
1 October 2011 18:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta03.htm Lot's of books partly fitted for the web also
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta03.htm
1 October 2011 17:25
Margus Meigo commented on Vahur Kivi's photo.
Pikkpoiss :)
1 October 2011 14:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=112Za-MVjYA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=112Za-MVjYA
1 October 2011 12:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8aIYX0TKxQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8aIYX0TKxQ
1 October 2011 12:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Job
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Job
1 October 2011 11:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDOe7Npinl4
"Talking about book of job, i am prisoner of my own skin and bones! ..."
" Hmm... Valium, antidepressions..? Now heard the Word of the Lord! "
"Talking about book of job, i am prisoner of my own skin and bones! ..."
" Hmm... Valium, antidepressions..? Now heard the Word of the Lord! "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDOe7Npinl4
1 October 2011 11:43
Margus Meigo commented on Ayahuasca Song's photo.
(:
1 October 2011 11:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Take sad song and make it - better :)
1 October 2011 11:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmcZumdEbfs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmcZumdEbfs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmcZumdEbfs
1 October 2011 11:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfjTZ72OqtU
Choo choo train
Tuckin' down the track
Gotta travel on it
Never comin' back
Ooh, ooh got a one way ticket to the blues.
Bye my love, my babe is leavin' me
Now, only tear drops are all that I could see.
Ooh, ooh
Got a one way ticket to the blues
Gotta take a trip to lonesome town
Gonna stay at heartbreak hotel.
A fool such as I such as I
Will never, I cry my tears away.
One way ticket, one way ticket
One way ticket, one way ticket
One way ticket, one way ticket to the blues.
Choo choo train
Tuckin' down the track
Gotta travel on it
Never comin' back
Ooh, ooh got a one way ticket to the blues.
Gotta go on, gotta truck on
Got a one way ticket to the blues.
I gotta take a trip to lonesome town
Gonna stay at heartbreak hotel
Ooh, a fool such as I, such as I
Will never I cry my tears away.
One way ticket, one way ticket
One way ticket, one way ticket
One way ticket, one way ticket to the blues.
Choo choo train
Tuckin' down the track
Gotta travel on it
Never comin' back
Ooh, ooh got a one way ticket to the blues.
Ooh, ooh got a one way ticket to the blues.
Got my ticket...
One way, one way, one way ticket
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http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858748516/ also,
Choo choo train
Tuckin' down the track
Gotta travel on it
Never comin' back
Ooh, ooh got a one way ticket to the blues.
Bye my love, my babe is leavin' me
Now, only tear drops are all that I could see.
Ooh, ooh
Got a one way ticket to the blues
Gotta take a trip to lonesome town
Gonna stay at heartbreak hotel.
A fool such as I such as I
Will never, I cry my tears away.
One way ticket, one way ticket
One way ticket, one way ticket
One way ticket, one way ticket to the blues.
Choo choo train
Tuckin' down the track
Gotta travel on it
Never comin' back
Ooh, ooh got a one way ticket to the blues.
Gotta go on, gotta truck on
Got a one way ticket to the blues.
I gotta take a trip to lonesome town
Gonna stay at heartbreak hotel
Ooh, a fool such as I, such as I
Will never I cry my tears away.
One way ticket, one way ticket
One way ticket, one way ticket
One way ticket, one way ticket to the blues.
Choo choo train
Tuckin' down the track
Gotta travel on it
Never comin' back
Ooh, ooh got a one way ticket to the blues.
Ooh, ooh got a one way ticket to the blues.
Got my ticket...
One way, one way, one way ticket
---
http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858748516/ also,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfjTZ72OqtU
1 October 2011 11:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
And from here .. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5gNYVia2rg
She is crazy about her Daddy
Oh
she believes in him
She loves her Daddy
She is crazy like a fool. What about it Daddy cool?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdwdd4h1NYo (exclusive Winter video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFoUNq_1wkc (Sopot 79 video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5gNYVia2rg
She is crazy about her Daddy
Oh
she believes in him
She loves her Daddy
She is crazy like a fool. What about it Daddy cool?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdwdd4h1NYo (exclusive Winter video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFoUNq_1wkc (Sopot 79 video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5gNYVia2rg
1 October 2011 11:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGuFn0RPgaE
Your eyes are full of hesitation
Sure makes me wonder
If you know what you're looking for :)
Your eyes are full of hesitation
Sure makes me wonder
If you know what you're looking for :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGuFn0RPgaE
1 October 2011 11:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHUz2wt1tSA
"LIke looking Jon Van Cloud Movie?"
"No Nothing like that"
"LIke looking Jon Van Cloud Movie?"
"No Nothing like that"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHUz2wt1tSA
1 October 2011 10:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVvz7NA28CM
You gotta speed it up
and then u gotta slow it down
cos if u believe that a love can hit the top
u gotta play around
and soon u will find that there comes a time for making ur mindup
u gotta turn it up
and then u gotta cool it down
u gotta be sure that its something everybodys gonna talk about
before u decide the times right for making ur mind up
dont let ur indecision take u from behind
trust ur inner vision
dont let others change ur mind
and now u really gotta burn it up
and make another fly by night
getta run for ur money
and take a chance
and itll turn out right
and when u see how its gotta be
ur making ur mind up!
and try to look as if u dont care less
but if u wanna see some more
then the rules of the game
will let u find the one ur looking for
and then u can show u think u know
that ur making ur mind up
dont let ur indecision take u from behind
trust ur inner vision
dont let others change ur mind
and now u really gotta speed it up
and then u gotta slow it down
cos if u believe that a love can hit the top
u gotta play around
and soon u will find that there comes a time for making ur mindup
and now u really gotta speed it up
and then u gotta slow it down
cos if u believe that a love can hit the top
u gotta play around
and soon u will find that there comes a time for making ur mindup
for making ur mind up
for making ur mind up
for making ur mind up
You gotta speed it up
and then u gotta slow it down
cos if u believe that a love can hit the top
u gotta play around
and soon u will find that there comes a time for making ur mindup
u gotta turn it up
and then u gotta cool it down
u gotta be sure that its something everybodys gonna talk about
before u decide the times right for making ur mind up
dont let ur indecision take u from behind
trust ur inner vision
dont let others change ur mind
and now u really gotta burn it up
and make another fly by night
getta run for ur money
and take a chance
and itll turn out right
and when u see how its gotta be
ur making ur mind up!
and try to look as if u dont care less
but if u wanna see some more
then the rules of the game
will let u find the one ur looking for
and then u can show u think u know
that ur making ur mind up
dont let ur indecision take u from behind
trust ur inner vision
dont let others change ur mind
and now u really gotta speed it up
and then u gotta slow it down
cos if u believe that a love can hit the top
u gotta play around
and soon u will find that there comes a time for making ur mindup
and now u really gotta speed it up
and then u gotta slow it down
cos if u believe that a love can hit the top
u gotta play around
and soon u will find that there comes a time for making ur mindup
for making ur mind up
for making ur mind up
for making ur mind up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVvz7NA28CM
1 October 2011 10:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
You know guys, it's beautiful show going on here, let's not spoil it! :)
1 October 2011 10:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU5hlK0Y6VA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU5hlK0Y6VA
30 September 2011 19:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC3AS27tOak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC3AS27tOak
30 September 2011 19:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
There is a lot's of books there to take look before purchasing them & many that one cant buy. There is a lot of more portals also from where one can get a books, will add some more links soon : )
30 September 2011 19:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Some more to add to the thoughts: http://www.startupamericapartnership.org/blog/2011-06-15/conundrum-life-science-industry
+ thought, why we fail to understand, that we have, plants and knowledge & all drugs we would ever need, let's take time off, let's now see where we can go... but no, let's keep running like mad's. Am i talking to someone who can read me writing. We have all the Things we need - for now to make few last things we most need only when we stop doing things
It's like one is handing you a answer what is helping for you to find/see the question you want to answer, but no, i want work on my own, so i can reach to the answer without the question, let's cable, even thought we know that the game is just the symbol for things that show us what should we not do
+ thought, why we fail to understand, that we have, plants and knowledge & all drugs we would ever need, let's take time off, let's now see where we can go... but no, let's keep running like mad's. Am i talking to someone who can read me writing. We have all the Things we need - for now to make few last things we most need only when we stop doing things
It's like one is handing you a answer what is helping for you to find/see the question you want to answer, but no, i want work on my own, so i can reach to the answer without the question, let's cable, even thought we know that the game is just the symbol for things that show us what should we not do
http://www.startupamericapartnership.org/blog/2011-06-15/conundrum-life-science-industry
28 September 2011 17:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
It's so funny how people have everything backwards and think that psycdellics are more dangerous to children then adults who have fixed ideas. I know mother who give to his 7 years old child mushrooms and one went to school - enjoyed school more, learned more then before. No negative effects.
It's like this kids on 60's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjSoFCj-t5I - i wonder if the "pokeMan children" are also capable of talking about pope, religion and things like that
It's like this kids on 60's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjSoFCj-t5I - i wonder if the "pokeMan children" are also capable of talking about pope, religion and things like that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjSoFCj-t5I
28 September 2011 03:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX-1D1-AADs "Tommy has had awakening"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX-1D1-AADs
28 September 2011 03:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3OH5hdTQoc "yes i have not read the paper but..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3OH5hdTQoc
28 September 2011 03:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Has always been :)
If one looks to hard then one cant see, if one looks to not see then one does not need to look hard
But in short http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8xjLjEpgNo
And yes, there comes news soon about how E does not help, can harm and etc. Old myths + some half truth new ones. There is one strong truth - These threes from where it comes, needs serious saving when news like that hit the main stream.
:)
If man knows a thing then man knows not a thing at all, but let's keep speculating - anything that help us to get to be friends with Fear, so we can learn, re-think, re-see the world. And learn that we have not learn from history that we have not learned from history, up to now, also few tomorrows more, but not for long :)
And if i look How things are used, i am still standing on not legalizing before strong educational re-programming, con. change. For adults & victims from doctor - yes.
From there let's see
If one looks to hard then one cant see, if one looks to not see then one does not need to look hard
But in short http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8xjLjEpgNo
And yes, there comes news soon about how E does not help, can harm and etc. Old myths + some half truth new ones. There is one strong truth - These threes from where it comes, needs serious saving when news like that hit the main stream.
:)
If man knows a thing then man knows not a thing at all, but let's keep speculating - anything that help us to get to be friends with Fear, so we can learn, re-think, re-see the world. And learn that we have not learn from history that we have not learned from history, up to now, also few tomorrows more, but not for long :)
And if i look How things are used, i am still standing on not legalizing before strong educational re-programming, con. change. For adults & victims from doctor - yes.
From there let's see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8xjLjEpgNo
28 September 2011 03:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The laughter is actually really healthy for us - it's a form of meditation. For me there has been rare for laughter like it's described in internets, most of the time there is calmness or fashination about the world, life, language, God, military & humans etc.
After one opens extra doors with lsd and mushrooms the cannabis effects turn more thoughtful for all people i know.
I assume i only have bright people in my contact list who do take rec. for deeper respect and good setting seriously. Do need to waste good drugs and jump in to river if you really can not swim jet, if you do not want to see yourself from different corner.
It's vital before Any drug taking to think - why i do it? Have some debate with yourself and if you do not get intelligent answers, or u still have fear - skip it, do worryes, urge will come back soon :)
After one opens extra doors with lsd and mushrooms the cannabis effects turn more thoughtful for all people i know.
I assume i only have bright people in my contact list who do take rec. for deeper respect and good setting seriously. Do need to waste good drugs and jump in to river if you really can not swim jet, if you do not want to see yourself from different corner.
It's vital before Any drug taking to think - why i do it? Have some debate with yourself and if you do not get intelligent answers, or u still have fear - skip it, do worryes, urge will come back soon :)
28 September 2011 03:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Flora Wellbeloved - it's not about paranoia and weird thoughts, as it would be something bad or something that should be avoided - this is one of the main healing properties for people who are stuck in illusion that all the life is like they imagined their life for themselves. Also there comes temporary depression - life is different, so i have been living wrong way or ignoring a lot of vital parts of Life (if you keep using it and accepting & learning - depression is really short period, if one fights back in mind and do not want to find wise friend who can give real support with wise words - it might be harder for many). As i told, these things change values, turn your thinking in to direction what your body needs (but yes, i do assume to much that people use these things with respect and will try to choose right settings, will quit other digital, mental and toxic drugs... but some reasons even with all the proof some keeps the old ways... and quits the only thing that show them who they also are, or might be and how they live someones other life, not their own)
arrgh, this was one confusing message ? :D
arrgh, this was one confusing message ? :D
28 September 2011 01:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: HTHC (High Tech Hippie Crew)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7blUYJm6i-c It's also considered as music for many ears :)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7blUYJm6i-c
27 September 2011 14:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: HTHC (High Tech Hippie Crew)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUXodFgbDfQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUXodFgbDfQ
27 September 2011 14:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: HTHC (High Tech Hippie Crew)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeRZKC27RtU :)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeRZKC27RtU
27 September 2011 14:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(: Well, it's known about cannabis also for long, that one is really helpful but interfering factor is that it's also helping for so many other things, so it cant be right...
27 September 2011 13:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://maps.org/
http://www.maps.org/
27 September 2011 13:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Thank's Ardavan Parsi for the update :)
27 September 2011 13:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Well... hopefully it will not take 10 years for them to understand, that these drugs use our brain to fix our body, that many bad's that we have is result of what is happening in our head, and what is happening in our head also related a Lot what and how we eat, live, love.
It's simply science in ground level, nothing pseudo.
Right now it still looks like magic for many - how can one thing... just work for so many different problems... (like with many 'drugs' from same gender) there must be some reason/mistake... let's re-test, let's-re test, let's-retest... " how can we fit this in to our current understanding of medical science, in to our current box so we would not look ignorant to others who told us so? "
Well, i am sure you will find a way : )
It's simply science in ground level, nothing pseudo.
Right now it still looks like magic for many - how can one thing... just work for so many different problems... (like with many 'drugs' from same gender) there must be some reason/mistake... let's re-test, let's-re test, let's-retest... " how can we fit this in to our current understanding of medical science, in to our current box so we would not look ignorant to others who told us so? "
Well, i am sure you will find a way : )
27 September 2011 13:06
Margus Meigo commented on Diana Veleva's photo.
" Well, here is how we help the human's & us :) "
27 September 2011 12:25
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Piraadipartei's post.
Kahju, et emotsoonide valik nii limiteeritud fb on, veel.
27 September 2011 11:12
Margus Meigo commented on Joe Crumby's post.
so, we guess one more person to waked up, yes :)
26 September 2011 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on Uku Légal's post.
http://www.korsten.ee/index.php?option=com_contact&view=category&catid=49&Itemid=68 Üks neist oli kalamajas elav, lahe vend, paar kuud tagasi mu juures. Üürin numbri täpsemalt järgi kui endiselt vaja un :)
http://www.korsten.ee/index.php?option=com_contact&view=category&catid=49&Itemid=68
25 September 2011 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
great update facebook :D
24 September 2011 00:04
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Piraadipartei's post.
Itaalias üks poliitik tahtis isegi yt'i jms portaalidesse videode ülesse laadimist teha ainult juhul kui inimesel on valitsuselt luba selleks, seal ikka suht huumori rikkad kuid kurvastavaid ideid genereeritakse.
22 September 2011 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on Andrei Korobeinik's photo.
Õuna poisid võiksitki oma tahvlitega & muude vidinatega ühe korraliku helistamiseks mõeldud aparaadi kaasa anda komplektis, ajast kust akud nädala kestsid ja saadi hakkama ilma ilma ennustuste ja fb updatedeta
ühesõnaga, nagu kristi ütles .)
ühesõnaga, nagu kristi ütles .)
22 September 2011 02:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: HTHC (High Tech Hippie Crew)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2l-3tlVgBQ
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/booksblog/2010/jan/18/reading-depression :)
Sometimes yt offers interesting related picturehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2l-3tlVgBQ
20 September 2011 14:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The text on the T-shirt says: "Let's clean the country in one day", but also "Let's clean the Earth in one day".
http://www.sarajevo-x.com/bih/sarajevo/clanak/110915042#15
www.crvena.ba
http://www.sarajevo-x.com/bih/sarajevo/clanak/110915042#15
www.crvena.ba
http://www.sarajevo-x.com/bih/sarajevo/clanak/110915042#15
19 September 2011 02:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Let’s Do It! movement’s partners in this global effort are: Skype Technologies S.A., Rezidor Hotel Group, Carlson, Aegis Media Worldwide, National Geographic Channel and Meridian International Center.
http://intranet.letsdoitworld.org/worldcleanup2012
http://intranet.letsdoitworld.org/worldcleanup2012
http://intranet.letsdoitworld.org/worldcleanup2012
19 September 2011 02:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
World Cleanup 2012 will consist of separate one-day cleanup actions, carried out country-wide or city-wide in participating countries between 24th of March 2012 and 25th of September 2012. Right now there are teams already gearing up in almost 60 countries all over the World: Afghanistan, Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Austria, Bangladesh, Barbados, Bénin, Brazil, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Cambodia, Chile, Côte d'Ivoire, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Estonia, Finland, France, Gambia, Georgia, Ghana, Croatia, Cyprus, India (New Delhi, Hyderabad, Lucknow, Patna), Indonesia, Italy, Kenya, Kazakhstan, Kosova, Lithuania, Liberia, Latvia, Macedonia, Moldova, Morocco, Nepal, Netherlands, Nigeria, Niger, Portugal, Romania, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Senegal, Serbia, Slovenia, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Thailand, Tanzania, Togo, Turkey, Uganda, Ukraine, United Kingdom, USA (San Fransisco) and Russia.
The idea for the action grew from the Let's Do It! civic movement that started in 2008 in the small Baltic country of Estonia, when on 3rd of May 50 000 people came out and picked up 10 000 tons of waste in 5 hours, cleaning up the whole territory of the country. The video report on the action went viral and now the one-day cleanup model has been replicated in 15 more countries with staggering results – altogether 2,4 million participants and from 4% to 14,7% (of the whole population) participation rate per country.
“We have been implementing the simple and very practical Let's Do It! philosophy through those actions – don't blame someone, instead just figure out how you can make things better and invite everyone to join you,” points out Nolvak.
For next year the initiators are aiming to unite the volunteers' efforts in at least 100 countries – thus there is room for many more to join in. These actions that have been successfully carried out by dedicated people, volunteers from very different backgrounds, prove that we all can make a difference.
Now is a good time to jump on board. World that is free of waste is possible. The team of World Cleanup 2012 invites all the people and countries who wish to be a part of these Olympic Games for the clean world – join us! Read more and see how you can support and join the action: www.letsdoitworld.org
Let's do it! World is in contact with corporations and foundations worldwide. If you wish to become a partner as well, please do not hesitate to contact Ms Marie Talts at marietalts@letsdoitworld.org
The idea for the action grew from the Let's Do It! civic movement that started in 2008 in the small Baltic country of Estonia, when on 3rd of May 50 000 people came out and picked up 10 000 tons of waste in 5 hours, cleaning up the whole territory of the country. The video report on the action went viral and now the one-day cleanup model has been replicated in 15 more countries with staggering results – altogether 2,4 million participants and from 4% to 14,7% (of the whole population) participation rate per country.
“We have been implementing the simple and very practical Let's Do It! philosophy through those actions – don't blame someone, instead just figure out how you can make things better and invite everyone to join you,” points out Nolvak.
For next year the initiators are aiming to unite the volunteers' efforts in at least 100 countries – thus there is room for many more to join in. These actions that have been successfully carried out by dedicated people, volunteers from very different backgrounds, prove that we all can make a difference.
Now is a good time to jump on board. World that is free of waste is possible. The team of World Cleanup 2012 invites all the people and countries who wish to be a part of these Olympic Games for the clean world – join us! Read more and see how you can support and join the action: www.letsdoitworld.org
Let's do it! World is in contact with corporations and foundations worldwide. If you wish to become a partner as well, please do not hesitate to contact Ms Marie Talts at marietalts@letsdoitworld.org
http://www.letsdoitworld.org/
19 September 2011 02:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
& almost forget to link: http://www.catholic.com/library/sr_chick_tracts_p2.asp
Through the years Chick also became associated with others who had an impact on his publications. The conspiracy angle in his works jumped significantly through his involvement with two men in particular.
One was John Todd, an evangelist who claimed to have been raised in a "witchcraft family" and supposedly was part of a gigantic conspiracy of witches called "the Illuminati."According to Todd, numerous political and religious figures were part of the conspiracy. He claimed that as a "Grand Druid High Priest" he was given a thirteen-state territory and that "over 90 percent of politicians in that thirteen-state area received financial support from him and took orders regarding political decisions from him." The religious figures allegedly part of the witch conspiracy included Jim Bakker, Billy Graham, Walter Martin, Oral Roberts, and Pat Robertson. Also involved were C. S. Lewis, Pat and Debbie Boone, and a number of Protestant denominations, "from Assemblies of God to the Southern Baptists."[21]
One way the Illuminati spread their occult tendrils through society was through rock music. Songs in this genre often "contained coded spells or incantations that the listener wasn’t aware of." Based on Todd’s claims, Chick issued a number of publications, including the large-format comic book Spellbound? (against rock music) and the tract Dark Dungeons (against fantasy role-playing games).
Todd was exposed as a fraud in publications such as Christianity Today[23] and Cornerstone. He later was convicted and sent to prison for
The other major figure hyping Jack Chick’s conspiracy theories was the late Alberto Rivera, and he is important enough to Chick mythology to deserve his own section.
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So anyway, back to wok now :)
Through the years Chick also became associated with others who had an impact on his publications. The conspiracy angle in his works jumped significantly through his involvement with two men in particular.
One was John Todd, an evangelist who claimed to have been raised in a "witchcraft family" and supposedly was part of a gigantic conspiracy of witches called "the Illuminati."According to Todd, numerous political and religious figures were part of the conspiracy. He claimed that as a "Grand Druid High Priest" he was given a thirteen-state territory and that "over 90 percent of politicians in that thirteen-state area received financial support from him and took orders regarding political decisions from him." The religious figures allegedly part of the witch conspiracy included Jim Bakker, Billy Graham, Walter Martin, Oral Roberts, and Pat Robertson. Also involved were C. S. Lewis, Pat and Debbie Boone, and a number of Protestant denominations, "from Assemblies of God to the Southern Baptists."[21]
One way the Illuminati spread their occult tendrils through society was through rock music. Songs in this genre often "contained coded spells or incantations that the listener wasn’t aware of." Based on Todd’s claims, Chick issued a number of publications, including the large-format comic book Spellbound? (against rock music) and the tract Dark Dungeons (against fantasy role-playing games).
Todd was exposed as a fraud in publications such as Christianity Today[23] and Cornerstone. He later was convicted and sent to prison for
The other major figure hyping Jack Chick’s conspiracy theories was the late Alberto Rivera, and he is important enough to Chick mythology to deserve his own section.
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So anyway, back to wok now :)
http://www.catholic.com/library/sr_chick_tracts_p2.asp
19 September 2011 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMKbTOgp69o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMKbTOgp69o
19 September 2011 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
damn, this guy is entertaining!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOc-l8mJ0Vw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOc-l8mJ0Vw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOc-l8mJ0Vw
19 September 2011 02:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqrkIRFh3cM
But all and all.. look at related videos :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqrkIRFh3cM
But all and all.. look at related videos :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqrkIRFh3cM
19 September 2011 02:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Juhan Parts, Meelis Leis, Indrek Loo, Paul-Kristjan Lilje, Henrik Roonemaa, Martin Hirvoja, Aleksei Kelli, Karmen Linask, Urmas Ambur, Jüri Jõema, Rickard Falkvinge
https://www.facebook.com/Piraadipartei
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ühtne-Eesti-Suurkogu/103263113044019
https://www.facebook.com/EestiInternetiKogukond
http://twitter.com/#!/infovabadus
https://www.facebook.com/Piraadipartei
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ühtne-Eesti-Suurkogu/103263113044019
https://www.facebook.com/EestiInternetiKogukond
http://twitter.com/#!/infovabadus
facebook.com
Eesti Piraadipartei
19 September 2011 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on Kenneth Peiruza's post.
Group: Ad hoc PP grupp
& also http://infoyhiskond.eesti.ee/paevakava
29 Sep. i guess :)19 September 2011 01:57
Margus Meigo commented on Kenneth Peiruza's link.
& also http://infoyhiskond.eesti.ee/paevakava
29 Sep. i guess :)
29 Sep. i guess :)
http://infoyhiskond.eesti.ee/paevakava
19 September 2011 01:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
And some more H & Wood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpktoaHZGqA
896 likes, 113 dislikes
"Do they still exsist ...and if they do..., who aar they?!"
xD
:D
No really, take lightly now :)
Make Love, Not War
--
More wiki:
Brown's novels that feature the lead character Robert Langdon also include historical themes and Christianity as recurring motifs, and as a result, have generated controversy. Brown states on his website that his books are not anti-Christian, though he is on a 'constant spiritual journey' himself, and says that his book The Da Vinci Code is simply "an entertaining story that promotes spiritual discussion and debate" and suggests that the book may be used "as a positive catalyst for introspection and exploration of our faith."
In August 2005, author Lewis Perdue unsuccessfully sued Brown for plagiarism, on the basis of claimed similarity between The Da Vinci Code and his novels, The Da Vinci Legacy (1983) and Daughter of God (2000). Judge George Daniels said, in part: "A reasonable average lay observer would not conclude that The Da Vinci Code is substantially similar to Daughter of God."
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In April 2006, Brown won a copyright infringement case brought by authors Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh, who claimed that Brown stole ideas from their 1982 book Holy Blood Holy Grail for his 2003 novel The Da Vinci Code. It was in the book Holy Blood Holy Grail that Baigent, Leigh, and co-author Henry Lincoln had advanced the theory that Jesus and Mary Magdalene married and had a child and that the bloodline continues to this day. Brown even alluded to the two authors' names in his book. Leigh Teabing, a lead character in both the novel and the film, uses Leigh's name as the first name, and anagrammatically derives his last name from Baigent's. Mr Justice Peter Smith found in Brown's favor in the case, and as a private amusement, embedded his own Smithy code in the written judgment.
--
On March 28, 2007, Brown's publisher, Random House, won an appeal copyright infringement case. The Court of Appeal of England and Wales rejected the efforts from Baigent and Leigh, who became liable for paying legal expenses of nearly $6 million USD.[33] A contributing factor for the outcome of the case is that these authors presented their work as nonfiction. Fiction writers often draw upon nonfiction resources for content research. ...
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People should also get over about "this is mine, this idea is All mine and ya can not use it" - there is better ways.
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Much criticism also centers on Brown's claim found in the preface to The Da Vinci Code that the novel is based on fact in relation to Opus Dei and the Priory of Sion, and that "all descriptions of artwork, architecture, documents and secret rituals in [the] novel are accurate."
In an interview with Matt Lauer on The Today Show in September 2009, Brown responded by saying, "I do something very intentional and specific in these books. And that is to blend fact and fiction in a very modern and efficient style, to tell a story. There are some people who understand what I do,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpktoaHZGqA
896 likes, 113 dislikes
"Do they still exsist ...and if they do..., who aar they?!"
xD
:D
No really, take lightly now :)
Make Love, Not War
--
More wiki:
Brown's novels that feature the lead character Robert Langdon also include historical themes and Christianity as recurring motifs, and as a result, have generated controversy. Brown states on his website that his books are not anti-Christian, though he is on a 'constant spiritual journey' himself, and says that his book The Da Vinci Code is simply "an entertaining story that promotes spiritual discussion and debate" and suggests that the book may be used "as a positive catalyst for introspection and exploration of our faith."
In August 2005, author Lewis Perdue unsuccessfully sued Brown for plagiarism, on the basis of claimed similarity between The Da Vinci Code and his novels, The Da Vinci Legacy (1983) and Daughter of God (2000). Judge George Daniels said, in part: "A reasonable average lay observer would not conclude that The Da Vinci Code is substantially similar to Daughter of God."
--
In April 2006, Brown won a copyright infringement case brought by authors Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh, who claimed that Brown stole ideas from their 1982 book Holy Blood Holy Grail for his 2003 novel The Da Vinci Code. It was in the book Holy Blood Holy Grail that Baigent, Leigh, and co-author Henry Lincoln had advanced the theory that Jesus and Mary Magdalene married and had a child and that the bloodline continues to this day. Brown even alluded to the two authors' names in his book. Leigh Teabing, a lead character in both the novel and the film, uses Leigh's name as the first name, and anagrammatically derives his last name from Baigent's. Mr Justice Peter Smith found in Brown's favor in the case, and as a private amusement, embedded his own Smithy code in the written judgment.
--
On March 28, 2007, Brown's publisher, Random House, won an appeal copyright infringement case. The Court of Appeal of England and Wales rejected the efforts from Baigent and Leigh, who became liable for paying legal expenses of nearly $6 million USD.[33] A contributing factor for the outcome of the case is that these authors presented their work as nonfiction. Fiction writers often draw upon nonfiction resources for content research. ...
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People should also get over about "this is mine, this idea is All mine and ya can not use it" - there is better ways.
---
Much criticism also centers on Brown's claim found in the preface to The Da Vinci Code that the novel is based on fact in relation to Opus Dei and the Priory of Sion, and that "all descriptions of artwork, architecture, documents and secret rituals in [the] novel are accurate."
In an interview with Matt Lauer on The Today Show in September 2009, Brown responded by saying, "I do something very intentional and specific in these books. And that is to blend fact and fiction in a very modern and efficient style, to tell a story. There are some people who understand what I do,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpktoaHZGqA
19 September 2011 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
& then things like that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9zBX4gt0eo (from minute 1:44)
In the end, where is the rightful solution ?
In the end, where is the rightful solution ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9zBX4gt0eo
19 September 2011 01:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Chick's tracts cover subjects such as abortion, homosexuality, non-Protestant Christianity, the occult, rock music, left-wing politics, popular culture, J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series, and the theory of evolution, generally in a very negative and conspiratorial light. Chick believes many of the world's problems are deliberately caused by the Roman Catholic Church. He credits Catholicism with founding the Islamic religion, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, as well as the Jehovah's Witnesses; persecuting Jews; starting the Holocaust and the Inquisition; and founding and promoting Communism.
Chick also claims that Satan and demons promote the occult through mystical and New Age beliefs, rock music (including Christian rock), Wicca, and fantasy role-playing games such as Dungeons and Dragons to deceive people and send them to Hell. Chick is opposed to abortion and preaches against pre-marital sex. He believes strongly that homosexuality is sinful,and makes reference to the Biblical story of Sodom and Gomorrah in tracts pertaining to homosexuality.
Chick's views have been criticized by some of the groups he targets / (really?) /, including neopagans and Catholic organizations. Wiccan author Kerr Cuhulain describes Chick and his theories as "anti-feminist" and "anti-pagan," notes that a Chick Publications comic book was the source of a Rapid City, South Dakota police detective's presentation on the history of Satanism given in 1989, and describes him as "easily the least reputable source of reliable information on religious groups."[42]
- Wikipedia is interesting place to spend time :)
Chick also claims that Satan and demons promote the occult through mystical and New Age beliefs, rock music (including Christian rock), Wicca, and fantasy role-playing games such as Dungeons and Dragons to deceive people and send them to Hell. Chick is opposed to abortion and preaches against pre-marital sex. He believes strongly that homosexuality is sinful,and makes reference to the Biblical story of Sodom and Gomorrah in tracts pertaining to homosexuality.
Chick's views have been criticized by some of the groups he targets / (really?) /, including neopagans and Catholic organizations. Wiccan author Kerr Cuhulain describes Chick and his theories as "anti-feminist" and "anti-pagan," notes that a Chick Publications comic book was the source of a Rapid City, South Dakota police detective's presentation on the history of Satanism given in 1989, and describes him as "easily the least reputable source of reliable information on religious groups."[42]
- Wikipedia is interesting place to spend time :)
19 September 2011 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
After converting to Christianity, Chick wanted to evangelize others, but was too shy to talk to people directly about religion. Chick heard from missionary Bob Hammond, who had broadcast in Asia on the Voice of America, that the Communist Party of China had gained significant influence among ordinary Chinese in the 1950s through the distribution of small comic books. Chick also began working with a prison ministry and created a flip chart of illustrations to use with his presentation. He hit upon the idea of creating witnessing tracts, which could be given to people directly or indirectly
19 September 2011 00:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Very little is known about Jack Chick; he lives a reclusive life and has given only one known professional interview since 1975.His reclusiveness created speculation in the past that he was a pen name for an unnamed author or authors. Several audio cassettes of his preaching distributed to his subscribers purport to contain his voice. He has never released a photo of himself for publication, although photos purportedly of Chick have been published by others.
19 September 2011 00:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
His views have been spread worldwide, mostly through the tracts and now online. They have been translated into more than 100 languages. As evidenced from his writings and publications, Chick is an Independent Baptist who follows a dispensational premillennialist view of the end times. He is an ardent believer in the King James Only movement, which posits that every English translation of the Bible more recent than 1611 promotes heresy or immorality.
19 September 2011 00:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
You will newer be the same
as 5 minutes ago:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAsCNlBSTpM
as 5 minutes ago:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAsCNlBSTpM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAsCNlBSTpM
19 September 2011 00:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
God has a great sense of humor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUoUeYi7ya4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUoUeYi7ya4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUoUeYi7ya4
19 September 2011 00:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
... & Your status update is too long. The maximum status length is 500 characters, but it is 501 characters long.
Did not take long, and we went from 420 to 500
Did not take long, and we went from 420 to 500
19 September 2011 00:45
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Kus kohast seda Eluajalehte lugeda saab? Pole meediaga eriti kursis, pole silmajäänud :)
17 September 2011 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
"Jesus * christ... you seriously don't have anything better to do?"
EaterOfBoners
(this is curious expression - JFC )
"@EaterOfBoners what makes one thing a better use of time than another? "
MoldytoasterMedia
"@MoldytoasterMedia
The one that will help your self development and your peers the most, that is the better one.
You know, like learning a new language, a new science, working out, helping a friend that is having a rough patch, writing, reading good books, wondering about the meaning of life.
What you're doing, while certainly bringing you some fame and fortune, is an immense waste of the limited time you have left to live and takes an astronomical toll on your health."
TheUnchainedMind
"@TheUnchainedMind Think 1 billion years in the future. No matter what you do during your life, it's all an equal waste of time."
MoldytoasterMedia
"@TheUnchainedMind You know I doubt anybody here spends their spare time that constructively. By and large we're not learning new languages or training for marathons; we spent the time watching bits of these videos, playing computer games, browsing shit on Amazon, stalking people on Facebook, commenting on YouTube. In a way, making something, -anything-, is better than what most of us are doing.
Plus he is reading a book (one most religious people probably haven't, even).. and making us think."
sphoney
"@MoldytoasterMedia
The vastness of the universe and the infinity of time compared to our extremely finite lives should help spur us to make the most of them, not sit idly as they burn away. You are pretty obviously an atheist, so you are aware that this small window on infinity is all you get. Why not try and be as happy as you can in the process ? If a close friend gets hurt, will you not feel the urge to help him ? Why, if it's all a waste of time in the end ? Don't pretend it's all the same."
TheUnchainedMind
Jesus do you seriously have this much time on your hands? *no pun intended*
Sayain50
Spoiler Alert: Jesus dies.
MrKrauzz
i like how all the comments are involve Jesus fucking Christ or holy fuck
Leo413623
O_O
HOLY FUCK
Cosmicboy37
@ilovekiki143 no he didn't, you can clearly see that his shirt changes every once in a while if you skip through the video.
Dylan5222sMyGamertag
@MoldytoasterMedia
A good use of time is doing something that you want to do and that you are glad that you have done after doing it. So tell me, are you proud of yourself for doing this?
Desentification
Why does this only have over one thousand views? This should have fucking millions.
marqueskart
This is genuinely impressive. No joke. I could never do this so, Kudos to you.
MrPoeGhost
---
- well, a bit coding and youtube comment section is worth reading :)
EaterOfBoners
(this is curious expression - JFC )
"@EaterOfBoners what makes one thing a better use of time than another? "
MoldytoasterMedia
"@MoldytoasterMedia
The one that will help your self development and your peers the most, that is the better one.
You know, like learning a new language, a new science, working out, helping a friend that is having a rough patch, writing, reading good books, wondering about the meaning of life.
What you're doing, while certainly bringing you some fame and fortune, is an immense waste of the limited time you have left to live and takes an astronomical toll on your health."
TheUnchainedMind
"@TheUnchainedMind Think 1 billion years in the future. No matter what you do during your life, it's all an equal waste of time."
MoldytoasterMedia
"@TheUnchainedMind You know I doubt anybody here spends their spare time that constructively. By and large we're not learning new languages or training for marathons; we spent the time watching bits of these videos, playing computer games, browsing shit on Amazon, stalking people on Facebook, commenting on YouTube. In a way, making something, -anything-, is better than what most of us are doing.
Plus he is reading a book (one most religious people probably haven't, even).. and making us think."
sphoney
"@MoldytoasterMedia
The vastness of the universe and the infinity of time compared to our extremely finite lives should help spur us to make the most of them, not sit idly as they burn away. You are pretty obviously an atheist, so you are aware that this small window on infinity is all you get. Why not try and be as happy as you can in the process ? If a close friend gets hurt, will you not feel the urge to help him ? Why, if it's all a waste of time in the end ? Don't pretend it's all the same."
TheUnchainedMind
Jesus do you seriously have this much time on your hands? *no pun intended*
Sayain50
Spoiler Alert: Jesus dies.
MrKrauzz
i like how all the comments are involve Jesus fucking Christ or holy fuck
Leo413623
O_O
HOLY FUCK
Cosmicboy37
@ilovekiki143 no he didn't, you can clearly see that his shirt changes every once in a while if you skip through the video.
Dylan5222sMyGamertag
@MoldytoasterMedia
A good use of time is doing something that you want to do and that you are glad that you have done after doing it. So tell me, are you proud of yourself for doing this?
Desentification
Why does this only have over one thousand views? This should have fucking millions.
marqueskart
This is genuinely impressive. No joke. I could never do this so, Kudos to you.
MrPoeGhost
---
- well, a bit coding and youtube comment section is worth reading :)
16 September 2011 13:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHiU36GDaEA
Greetings to Sámi kopiija & Virgin records
Greetings to Sámi kopiija & Virgin records
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHiU36GDaEA
16 September 2011 13:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRbkNyJNRnM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRbkNyJNRnM
16 September 2011 10:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Read comments from down to up.
" This is the future of Hi-Def entertainment. (oAo) "
TheMasashino
@PomocnikAviS All of u stupid assholes surprise me on the ability to read.... every time i watch this video someoe says "its not 24h its 23:59:01 read his annotaions for once
xNeonPandax 12 minutes ago in playlist xNeonPandax's Favorited Videos
LOL i watched it and I NEED TO GO TO WORK
Ihatenoobs123456
I'm not going to get to listen to the whole thing!! :/ Stupid school!!
bobaloojokey
I listened to this 2 times today.
marioandluigi012345
I like the part where it goes "nyan."
joethedrummer96
omg there are NOT the complete lyrics!!
pratchelicious
My brother: Mom said its my turn to be on the computer!
Me: Just 1 more video
My brother:ok
Me : *TROLLFACE*
BlueEliteShoot
@StarcloudOfHeartclan I just got done watching the whole thing, and I think that I deserve a nap now. Like, a three day nap. When I wake up, at least one other poor soul will be able to saw the same as I.
RetartedAmericans
After listening to 30 mins
I came to a conclusion
I LUV NY4N C4T
Pikachu980pwner
Best part is clearly 11:15:02
Xstenstrupdk
@puppetmaster33516 first i questioned your comment since theres only 24 hours in a day then i just remembered you said chuck norris
thewexfordian 13 hours ago
OMG; how long did It taked to upload this vid?
ZimbaTinga
THE HELL!?
TREVOLL777
Thumbs if you sang along the whole video.
KITTYCLUSTERFUCK
best was 16:23:57
Issahfuaf
i cant get nyan cat out of my head im going to kill my self if you care help me :(
kingkiller11212
@killjoy358 well its more of day and night since day is like 14 hours
ilinnuc
i think... i died watching this.
Nwordsoup
this is just about the best thing i have ever seen
coelacanth23
Whos gonna watch a daylong vid? Srsly
killjoy358
Dude make a longer vid!!!!! Im tired of having to press teh replay button!!!!!
julianjo2
chuck noris watches this 5 times A DAY
puppetmaster33516
Did anybody elses not load?
wildcat76d
OH THE HUMANITY WHY WONT THIS END!!!!!!! THIS IS THE END OF THE WORLD I TELL U WE WILL BE FORCED TO WATCH THIS BUT THIS TIME FOR 24 X 2 HOURS!! AND NOT EAT OR DRINK ANYTHING!! jk! thumbs up if u hate the ppl who do that
nicole41982010
q: how long did this take to render?
a: this was rendered on sony vegas 10 pro with a computer with a quad core and a gts 250. it took about 3 days
L.m.f.a.o
Dethaurt
Me: How many hours is it?
Vegeta: IT'S OVER NYAN THOUSAND!!
Me: How many?
Vegeta: NYAN THOUSAND!!
shadowbeta10
This is slowly but surely killing off the human race....
urpaderpa
im gonna upload a video of me watching the whole thing if i get 50 likes
MrJuniortupapa10 1 day ago ( 202 likes)
We can make portal out of it. Interested?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLDKnWi2hNA
928,340 views, 8,363 likes, 557 dislikes
" This is the future of Hi-Def entertainment. (oAo) "
TheMasashino
@PomocnikAviS All of u stupid assholes surprise me on the ability to read.... every time i watch this video someoe says "its not 24h its 23:59:01 read his annotaions for once
xNeonPandax 12 minutes ago in playlist xNeonPandax's Favorited Videos
LOL i watched it and I NEED TO GO TO WORK
Ihatenoobs123456
I'm not going to get to listen to the whole thing!! :/ Stupid school!!
bobaloojokey
I listened to this 2 times today.
marioandluigi012345
I like the part where it goes "nyan."
joethedrummer96
omg there are NOT the complete lyrics!!
pratchelicious
My brother: Mom said its my turn to be on the computer!
Me: Just 1 more video
My brother:ok
Me : *TROLLFACE*
BlueEliteShoot
@StarcloudOfHeartclan I just got done watching the whole thing, and I think that I deserve a nap now. Like, a three day nap. When I wake up, at least one other poor soul will be able to saw the same as I.
RetartedAmericans
After listening to 30 mins
I came to a conclusion
I LUV NY4N C4T
Pikachu980pwner
Best part is clearly 11:15:02
Xstenstrupdk
@puppetmaster33516 first i questioned your comment since theres only 24 hours in a day then i just remembered you said chuck norris
thewexfordian 13 hours ago
OMG; how long did It taked to upload this vid?
ZimbaTinga
THE HELL!?
TREVOLL777
Thumbs if you sang along the whole video.
KITTYCLUSTERFUCK
best was 16:23:57
Issahfuaf
i cant get nyan cat out of my head im going to kill my self if you care help me :(
kingkiller11212
@killjoy358 well its more of day and night since day is like 14 hours
ilinnuc
i think... i died watching this.
Nwordsoup
this is just about the best thing i have ever seen
coelacanth23
Whos gonna watch a daylong vid? Srsly
killjoy358
Dude make a longer vid!!!!! Im tired of having to press teh replay button!!!!!
julianjo2
chuck noris watches this 5 times A DAY
puppetmaster33516
Did anybody elses not load?
wildcat76d
OH THE HUMANITY WHY WONT THIS END!!!!!!! THIS IS THE END OF THE WORLD I TELL U WE WILL BE FORCED TO WATCH THIS BUT THIS TIME FOR 24 X 2 HOURS!! AND NOT EAT OR DRINK ANYTHING!! jk! thumbs up if u hate the ppl who do that
nicole41982010
q: how long did this take to render?
a: this was rendered on sony vegas 10 pro with a computer with a quad core and a gts 250. it took about 3 days
L.m.f.a.o
Dethaurt
Me: How many hours is it?
Vegeta: IT'S OVER NYAN THOUSAND!!
Me: How many?
Vegeta: NYAN THOUSAND!!
shadowbeta10
This is slowly but surely killing off the human race....
urpaderpa
im gonna upload a video of me watching the whole thing if i get 50 likes
MrJuniortupapa10 1 day ago ( 202 likes)
We can make portal out of it. Interested?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLDKnWi2hNA
928,340 views, 8,363 likes, 557 dislikes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLDKnWi2hNA
16 September 2011 08:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Hmm.. i cant seem to find the original..
16 September 2011 08:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IwrX3atEdg
The New World
The New World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IwrX3atEdg
16 September 2011 07:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
And now.. let's go!
WAYRA - Ly O Lay Aleloya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4JJ-A2MvDg
WAYRA - Ly O Lay Aleloya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4JJ-A2MvDg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4JJ-A2MvDg
15 September 2011 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYDjiKl5J4U
You will make world Beautiful, do you know that?
You will make world Beautiful, do you know that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYDjiKl5J4U
15 September 2011 20:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLiR9OsqJa8
Indian pop music, to get you dancing with us, come people, let's live in Peace!
Indian pop music, to get you dancing with us, come people, let's live in Peace!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLiR9OsqJa8
15 September 2011 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TLAEzdmHA4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TLAEzdmHA4
15 September 2011 20:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOaoUx0Mc0Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOaoUx0Mc0Q
15 September 2011 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQQmR2xdpnc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQQmR2xdpnc
15 September 2011 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRCooxtSE20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRCooxtSE20
15 September 2011 19:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUy2HhK-Bzw
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0E15F6D406B80D64
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0E15F6D406B80D64
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUy2HhK-Bzw
15 September 2011 19:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRGDiyL2vM8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRGDiyL2vM8
15 September 2011 19:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
people, you do know that facebook has 420 letter letter limit, right?
15 September 2011 19:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frSkz-aXatU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frSkz-aXatU
15 September 2011 14:25
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Kogu see maailm siin on teoreetiline ja palju mida täna peetakse oluliseks ei pruugi meid kaugeltki mitte ette valmistada maailma jaoks mis 3-5 aasta pärast meid ootab, kui mitte varem, igatahes, anna teada kui leida :)
14 September 2011 13:27
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
nu see tegelane tundub suht prof oma alal olema nii natuke kui neti põhjal lugesin
ylevaated pole ka halvad:
"Great Book. As a Legal Studies student I have found this book to be of huge help as both an introduction to International Law and as a reference. Lowe communicates points efficiently and with great examples of the different mechanisms involved in its process. Extremely well organized and definitely worth the time spent reading."
""International Law" is a good overview of international law basics. The author knows how law functions in the real world of diplomats and officials; his analysis of how international law emerges from treaties and state practice is sophisticated; and his droll political asides make the book stand out from other introductory surveys."
"If you have never taken a class in international law and you want a short, but very well written, introduction to the subject, this is the book for you. I strongly recommend it to all my students in public international law, international law & human rights, and international humanitarian law of armed conflict.
Prof. Claude d'Estree"
ylevaated pole ka halvad:
"Great Book. As a Legal Studies student I have found this book to be of huge help as both an introduction to International Law and as a reference. Lowe communicates points efficiently and with great examples of the different mechanisms involved in its process. Extremely well organized and definitely worth the time spent reading."
""International Law" is a good overview of international law basics. The author knows how law functions in the real world of diplomats and officials; his analysis of how international law emerges from treaties and state practice is sophisticated; and his droll political asides make the book stand out from other introductory surveys."
"If you have never taken a class in international law and you want a short, but very well written, introduction to the subject, this is the book for you. I strongly recommend it to all my students in public international law, international law & human rights, and international humanitarian law of armed conflict.
Prof. Claude d'Estree"
14 September 2011 13:25
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
väga hea lugemine tundub olema igatahes, tee kindlasti pdf sellest raamatust kui käed külge saad :)
14 September 2011 13:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
As the people here grow colder
I turn to my computer
And spend my evenings with it
Like a friend.
I was loading a new programme
I had ordered from a magazine:
"Are you lonely, are you lost?
This voice console is a must."
I press Execute.
"Hello, I know that you've been feeling tired.
I bring you love and deeper understanding.
Hello, I know that you're unhappy.
I bring you love and deeper understanding."
Well I've never felt such pleasure.
Nothing else seemed to matter.
I neglected my bodily needs.
I did not eat, I did not sleep,
The intensity increasing,
'Til my family found me and intervened.
But I was lonely, I was lost,
Without my little black box.
I pick up the phone and go, Execute.
"Hello, I know that you've been feeling tired.
I bring you love and deeper understanding.
Hello, I know that you're unhappy.
I bring you love and deeper understanding."
I turn to my computer like a friend.
I need deeper understanding.
Give me deeper understanding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUuOv7VwMec
1. "The Sensual World"
2. "Love and Anger"
3. "The Fog"
4. "Reaching Out"
5. "Heads We're Dancing"
Side two
6. "Deeper Understanding"
7. "Between a Man and a Woman"
8. "Never Be Mine"
9. "Rocket's Tail"
10. "This Woman's Work"
11. "Walk Straight Down the Middle
I turn to my computer
And spend my evenings with it
Like a friend.
I was loading a new programme
I had ordered from a magazine:
"Are you lonely, are you lost?
This voice console is a must."
I press Execute.
"Hello, I know that you've been feeling tired.
I bring you love and deeper understanding.
Hello, I know that you're unhappy.
I bring you love and deeper understanding."
Well I've never felt such pleasure.
Nothing else seemed to matter.
I neglected my bodily needs.
I did not eat, I did not sleep,
The intensity increasing,
'Til my family found me and intervened.
But I was lonely, I was lost,
Without my little black box.
I pick up the phone and go, Execute.
"Hello, I know that you've been feeling tired.
I bring you love and deeper understanding.
Hello, I know that you're unhappy.
I bring you love and deeper understanding."
I turn to my computer like a friend.
I need deeper understanding.
Give me deeper understanding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUuOv7VwMec
1. "The Sensual World"
2. "Love and Anger"
3. "The Fog"
4. "Reaching Out"
5. "Heads We're Dancing"
Side two
6. "Deeper Understanding"
7. "Between a Man and a Woman"
8. "Never Be Mine"
9. "Rocket's Tail"
10. "This Woman's Work"
11. "Walk Straight Down the Middle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUuOv7VwMec
12 September 2011 13:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Watching the painter painting
And all the time, the light is changing
And he keeps painting
That bit there, it was an accident
But he's so pleased
It's the best mistake, he could make
And it's my favourite piece
It's just great
The flick of a wrist
Twisting down to the hips
So the lovers begin, with a kiss
In a tryst
It's just a smudge
But what it becomes
In his hands:
Curving and sweeping
Rising and reaching
I could feel what he was feeling
Lines like these have got to be
An architect's dream
It's always the same
Whenever he works on a pavement
It starts to rain
And all the time
The light is changing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kVKE9ijAuM
1 prelude. 2 prologe. 3 an architect's dream. 4 the painter's link. 5 sunset. 6 aerial tal. 7 somewhere in between. 8 nocturn. 9 aerial
And all the time, the light is changing
And he keeps painting
That bit there, it was an accident
But he's so pleased
It's the best mistake, he could make
And it's my favourite piece
It's just great
The flick of a wrist
Twisting down to the hips
So the lovers begin, with a kiss
In a tryst
It's just a smudge
But what it becomes
In his hands:
Curving and sweeping
Rising and reaching
I could feel what he was feeling
Lines like these have got to be
An architect's dream
It's always the same
Whenever he works on a pavement
It starts to rain
And all the time
The light is changing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kVKE9ijAuM
1 prelude. 2 prologe. 3 an architect's dream. 4 the painter's link. 5 sunset. 6 aerial tal. 7 somewhere in between. 8 nocturn. 9 aerial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kVKE9ijAuM
12 September 2011 13:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
A World Of Our Own! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFcx01gPzT0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFcx01gPzT0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFcx01gPzT0
12 September 2011 00:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od_sH1c08pc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od_sH1c08pc
12 September 2011 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Love is kind love is wine
So much laughter in your eyes
And you know that I will love you
Till the last flower dies
Do you hear music far away?
There's so much I'd like to say
Got a felling oh so new
So I'm singing just for you
You are everywhere I find in my heart and on my mind
Time is all I have time for you
You are all that I will be
You're a sunrise on the sea
You're the love I cannot hide
You're a magic carpet ride
You are everywhere I find in my heart and on my mind
Time is all I have time for you
Love is kind love is wine
So much laughter in your eyes
And you know that I will love you
Till the last flower dies
Till the last flower dies
Till the last flower dies
So much laughter in your eyes
And you know that I will love you
Till the last flower dies
Do you hear music far away?
There's so much I'd like to say
Got a felling oh so new
So I'm singing just for you
You are everywhere I find in my heart and on my mind
Time is all I have time for you
You are all that I will be
You're a sunrise on the sea
You're the love I cannot hide
You're a magic carpet ride
You are everywhere I find in my heart and on my mind
Time is all I have time for you
Love is kind love is wine
So much laughter in your eyes
And you know that I will love you
Till the last flower dies
Till the last flower dies
Till the last flower dies
11 September 2011 19:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Dust is my bed, embracing me, and is my cover
The sands are around me, engulfing me from all directions
And the tomb recounts [ the story of ] the darkness of my calamity
And the light has destined that my pleasure is in meeting [Allaah]
Where is the kindness of kin? They relinquished fidelity
Where are the scores of friends? They dispensed with my brotherhood
Where is the bliss of money? I left it behind
And where is the glory of fame and compliments?
That’s my end; dust is my bed
The beloved bade farewell to his love, and cried my elegy
The tears flow dried out, after crying
The vast universe shrank, narrowing my space
The tomb to my corpse became both my land and my sky
That’s my end; dust is my bed
Fear overwhelms my estrangement and sadness is my ailment
Hoping for steadfastness, which is – I swear – my remedy
Sincerely supplicating to the Lord; You are my hope
Hoping- O Allaah – for a paradise, in which my bliss shall be attained
The sands are around me, engulfing me from all directions
And the tomb recounts [ the story of ] the darkness of my calamity
And the light has destined that my pleasure is in meeting [Allaah]
Where is the kindness of kin? They relinquished fidelity
Where are the scores of friends? They dispensed with my brotherhood
Where is the bliss of money? I left it behind
And where is the glory of fame and compliments?
That’s my end; dust is my bed
The beloved bade farewell to his love, and cried my elegy
The tears flow dried out, after crying
The vast universe shrank, narrowing my space
The tomb to my corpse became both my land and my sky
That’s my end; dust is my bed
Fear overwhelms my estrangement and sadness is my ailment
Hoping for steadfastness, which is – I swear – my remedy
Sincerely supplicating to the Lord; You are my hope
Hoping- O Allaah – for a paradise, in which my bliss shall be attained
11 September 2011 19:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(PS: Share/Jaga nupp on pea postituse juures millega saate aidata nii Eesti teadust, haridust, wikipediat kui ka kõiki teisi kelleni see uudis läbi teie jõuab)
11 September 2011 19:26
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https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=226732877374416
11 September 2011 19:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUjz1kwm9fk - Welcome to My Crib :)
Lovely!
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The show tries to show that celebrities, despite their eight-car garages and custom-built swimming pools, are "just people like everybody else," says Sirulnick. Cribs always makes a point of going into the stars' kitchens and looking in their refrigerators. "There is sort of a common denominator element about that," he says.
Cribs appeals to Americans' fascination with the famous and wealthy, says Leonard Steinhorn, a media professor at American University. "But we also want to see how they lead their daily lives. Are they different from us? Are they the same as we are? This stuff helps us figure that out."
( MTV Cribs - http://www.mtv.com/shows/cribs/video.jhtml?filter=fulleps , have you seen it?
- Free Will, nothing else to add :)
Lovely!
--
The show tries to show that celebrities, despite their eight-car garages and custom-built swimming pools, are "just people like everybody else," says Sirulnick. Cribs always makes a point of going into the stars' kitchens and looking in their refrigerators. "There is sort of a common denominator element about that," he says.
Cribs appeals to Americans' fascination with the famous and wealthy, says Leonard Steinhorn, a media professor at American University. "But we also want to see how they lead their daily lives. Are they different from us? Are they the same as we are? This stuff helps us figure that out."
( MTV Cribs - http://www.mtv.com/shows/cribs/video.jhtml?filter=fulleps , have you seen it?
- Free Will, nothing else to add :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUjz1kwm9fk
11 September 2011 17:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Take also look at Oliver art for McCartney http://www.talenthouse.com/creativeinvites/preview/a37fdf3f05fe33be53ae3889759ace4f
http://www.talenthouse.com/ollivierfouchard
11 September 2011 17:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
:)
11 September 2011 16:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(Do not look if do not like spoilers or do not want to know what happens with messangers or if you have not look all the other clips first, in order)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a93h4F9XCf8
From start to end, some of us know what road's might come in our way, but the milk needs to be delivered
Like the last post, if you have seen all these clips/movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a93h4F9XCf8
From start to end, some of us know what road's might come in our way, but the milk needs to be delivered
Like the last post, if you have seen all these clips/movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a93h4F9XCf8
10 September 2011 18:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
It's the Individual that's finished. After Arthur Jenson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcpWk2WKhEM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcpWk2WKhEM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcpWk2WKhEM
10 September 2011 17:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Technology Has Surpassed Humanity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PE7VHDLnYw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PE7VHDLnYw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PE7VHDLnYw
10 September 2011 17:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Corporate Cosmology of Arthur Jenson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sySuIXG_IM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqEcLlp_Big
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sySuIXG_IM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqEcLlp_Big
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sySuIXG_IM
10 September 2011 17:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
William Holden, Faye Dunaway - Breakup Scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6xwbXOiQ4g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6xwbXOiQ4g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6xwbXOiQ4g
10 September 2011 17:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The Mao Tse Tung Hour Negotiations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuqvlMxfGA4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuqvlMxfGA4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuqvlMxfGA4
10 September 2011 17:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Max Confesses his Infidelity to Louise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzj1ViCA6RI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzj1ViCA6RI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzj1ViCA6RI
10 September 2011 17:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
William Holden and Robert Duval face off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxqkrmkhrjw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxqkrmkhrjw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxqkrmkhrjw
10 September 2011 17:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The Genesis of Glenn Beck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnIz7ELbI0g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnIz7ELbI0g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnIz7ELbI0g
10 September 2011 17:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Fortune-Telling Scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVafNtL_JAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVafNtL_JAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVafNtL_JAY
10 September 2011 17:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
We're in a lot of trouble
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFvT_qEZJf8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFvT_qEZJf8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFvT_qEZJf8
10 September 2011 17:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Mad as hell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90ELleCQvew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90ELleCQvew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90ELleCQvew
10 September 2011 17:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
George Washington Bridge. The Start of movie
Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQBb3s2_5Kk
Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQBb3s2_5Kk
10 September 2011 17:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You know it's kind of sucks that some videos just do not play well, wonder why they are not enabled
One other thing to watch:
"Congressman I believe you were the only one on this stage that voted against the patriot act soon after 9/11"
"Yes, because I read it"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFabLp-Jcbg
So is he for real? :)
One other thing to watch:
"Congressman I believe you were the only one on this stage that voted against the patriot act soon after 9/11"
"Yes, because I read it"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFabLp-Jcbg
So is he for real? :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFabLp-Jcbg
10 September 2011 17:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
everything you need, from crime to terrorism:
"We can deliver the news you need, when you need it, in the most convenient format for you. Reports from BBC Monitoring are available by email or via our searchable database. Subscriptions are available by country, region and/or topic.
Topics
Crime • Economics • Energy • Environment • Health • Human Rights • Media • Migration • Military • Narcotics • Peacekeeping • Politics • Proliferation • Space • Technology • Telecoms • Terrorism"
"Regions
Africa • Asia Pacific • Central Asia • Europe • Former Soviet Union.. • Middle East • South Asia • South & Central America"
... why not Russia? or from former Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth ?
"We can deliver the news you need, when you need it, in the most convenient format for you. Reports from BBC Monitoring are available by email or via our searchable database. Subscriptions are available by country, region and/or topic.
Topics
Crime • Economics • Energy • Environment • Health • Human Rights • Media • Migration • Military • Narcotics • Peacekeeping • Politics • Proliferation • Space • Technology • Telecoms • Terrorism"
"Regions
Africa • Asia Pacific • Central Asia • Europe • Former Soviet Union.. • Middle East • South Asia • South & Central America"
... why not Russia? or from former Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth ?
10 September 2011 16:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.monitor.bbc.co.uk/ - "Bringing the World to You"
- & 3 main pictures to describe the world is guy with revolutionary communist china flag, Russian orthodox church (this is actually nice picture) & masked guy with automatic weapon in conflict aria. If all these are 3 best pictures what one can choose to describe world news monitoring then one must ask - what is going on in the news providers & news readers minds
"BBC Monitoring provides news and information based on our round-the-clock monitoring of TV, radio, press, internet and news agency sources worldwide.
Expert selection from an extensive range of sources enables us to provide insightful and reliable coverage of political, economic, security and media news.
We show not only what the media are reporting but how they are telling the story."
Yes you are
- & 3 main pictures to describe the world is guy with revolutionary communist china flag, Russian orthodox church (this is actually nice picture) & masked guy with automatic weapon in conflict aria. If all these are 3 best pictures what one can choose to describe world news monitoring then one must ask - what is going on in the news providers & news readers minds
"BBC Monitoring provides news and information based on our round-the-clock monitoring of TV, radio, press, internet and news agency sources worldwide.
Expert selection from an extensive range of sources enables us to provide insightful and reliable coverage of political, economic, security and media news.
We show not only what the media are reporting but how they are telling the story."
Yes you are
http://www.monitor.bbc.co.uk/
10 September 2011 16:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid jah, see kasside ümberlõikamine võib küll olla inimlik kuid see ei tähenda, et see hea või õige oleks.
*inimlik' iseenesest võib olla sama inimlik kui demokraatlik võib olla demokraatia
*inimlik' iseenesest võib olla sama inimlik kui demokraatlik võib olla demokraatia
10 September 2011 16:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Well, at least nothing in top 10 story's. Maybe there can be something interesting if one diggs deeper then that, to find something we already can not predict/see with supercomputers or mind.
But i am thankful that BBC managed to get this as 10'th most important news. It's promising
But i am thankful that BBC managed to get this as 10'th most important news. It's promising
10 September 2011 13:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i meant - we should* ;)
9 September 2011 10:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
but yeah, i will go and let them diagnose me in the session i would use opertunty to diagnose them also, then it's win-Win situation. They get their diagnose and you are getting more info about large sections of man logic
9 September 2011 09:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You are suffering from L.i.f.e. good one :P
9 September 2011 09:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
order or disorder) depens with what configuration of 'truths' one is programmed
someones (world/mind) end is someones (world) beginning
someones (world/mind) end is someones (world) beginning
9 September 2011 09:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Or a thought order
9 September 2011 09:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In psychiatry, the term neologism is used to describe the use of words that have meaning only to the person who uses them, independent of their common meaning. This is considered normal in children, but a symptom of thought disorder (indicative of a psychotic mental illness, such as schizophrenia) in adults. People with autism also may create neologisms. Additionally, use of neologisms may be related to aphasia acquired after brain damage resulting from a stroke or head injury. (u know, on states where mind is not disrupted so much by ego)
But then again,
In theology, a neologism is a relatively new doctrine (for example, Transcendentalism). In this sense, a neologist is one who proposes either a new doctrine or a new interpretation of source material such as religious texts.
But then again,
In theology, a neologism is a relatively new doctrine (for example, Transcendentalism). In this sense, a neologist is one who proposes either a new doctrine or a new interpretation of source material such as religious texts.
9 September 2011 09:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
A neologism ( /niːˈɒlədʒɪzəm/; from the Greek νέο-, néo-, "new", and λόγος, lógos, "speech", "utterance") is a newly coined term, word or phrase, that may be in the process of entering common use, but has not yet been accepted into mainstream language.
OK, let's say - good, but read on:
Open content is an alternative paradigm to the use of copyright to create monopolies; rather than leading to monopoly, open content facilitates the democratization of knowledge
The term neologism is first attested in English in 1772, borrowed from French néologisme (1734).
& also:
OK, let's say - good, but read on:
Open content is an alternative paradigm to the use of copyright to create monopolies; rather than leading to monopoly, open content facilitates the democratization of knowledge
The term neologism is first attested in English in 1772, borrowed from French néologisme (1734).
& also:
9 September 2011 09:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.carolina.com/category/teacher+resources/classroom+activities/rnai-+turning+genes+off+at+will,+part+i.do
To learn more about the genes in question, students explore them in the C. elegans WormBase database. Once they have identified the sequence for the genes, they are guided in using the Basic Local Alignment Search Tool (BLAST) bioinformatics Web site to identify human homologs of these genes.
This experiment provides a great educational opportunity: you can have your students turn off genes and see the results just days later. It is a vivid demonstration of the relationship between genes, their function, and phenotypes using Nobel Prize-winning technology.
http://www.wormbase.org/
http://blast.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Blast.cgi
To learn more about the genes in question, students explore them in the C. elegans WormBase database. Once they have identified the sequence for the genes, they are guided in using the Basic Local Alignment Search Tool (BLAST) bioinformatics Web site to identify human homologs of these genes.
This experiment provides a great educational opportunity: you can have your students turn off genes and see the results just days later. It is a vivid demonstration of the relationship between genes, their function, and phenotypes using Nobel Prize-winning technology.
http://www.wormbase.org/
http://blast.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Blast.cgi
http://www.carolina.com/category/teacher+resources/classroom+activities/rnai-+turning+genes+off+at+will,+part+i.do
8 September 2011 22:31
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"It's accelerating the pace of discovery in molecular medical research," Mello says, "because we can learn about the function of each individual gene.
"And that's allowing researchers all over the world to begin linking particular genes with a variety of different diseases."
Drugs that use RNA interference are only beginning to be tested in humans. One of the first small studies involves macular degeneration, an eye disease.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6183030
"And that's allowing researchers all over the world to begin linking particular genes with a variety of different diseases."
Drugs that use RNA interference are only beginning to be tested in humans. One of the first small studies involves macular degeneration, an eye disease.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6183030
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6183030
8 September 2011 22:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
In July 2006, she told The Hill, "The day Dick Cheney is going to run for president, I'll kill myself. All we need is another liar... I think he'd like to run, but it would be a sad day for the country if he does.
On February 9, 2009, Thomas was present in the front row for newly elected President Obama's first news conference. President Obama called on her with the statement "Helen. I'm excited, this is my inaugural moment", seemingly a reference to her long-term presence in the White House Press Corps. Thomas asked if any Middle Eastern country possessed nuclear weapons. Obama replied that he didn't want to "speculate" on the matter.
On July 1, 2009, Thomas commented on the Obama administration's handling of the press, "we have had some control but not this control. I mean I'm amazed, I'm amazed at you people who call for openness and transparency and you have controlled...". She also said that not even Richard Nixon tried to control the press as much as President Obama.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Thomas
On February 9, 2009, Thomas was present in the front row for newly elected President Obama's first news conference. President Obama called on her with the statement "Helen. I'm excited, this is my inaugural moment", seemingly a reference to her long-term presence in the White House Press Corps. Thomas asked if any Middle Eastern country possessed nuclear weapons. Obama replied that he didn't want to "speculate" on the matter.
On July 1, 2009, Thomas commented on the Obama administration's handling of the press, "we have had some control but not this control. I mean I'm amazed, I'm amazed at you people who call for openness and transparency and you have controlled...". She also said that not even Richard Nixon tried to control the press as much as President Obama.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Thomas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Thomas
8 September 2011 16:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Thomas served as president of the Women's National Press Club from 1959–60. In 1959, Thomas and a few of her fellow female journalists forced the National Press Club, then barred to women, to allow them to attend an address by Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev.
After leaving her job as a reporter at the UPI, Thomas became more likely to air her personal, negative views. In a speech at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, she quipped, "I censored myself for 50 years when I was a reporter. Now I wake up and ask myself, ‘Who do I hate today?’
During President George W. Bush's first term, Thomas reacted to then-Press Secretary Ari Fleisher's statements about arms shipments to the terrorists by asking: "Where do the Israelis get their arms?" He responded "There's a difference Helen, and that is --". "What is the difference?", she asked. He responded: "The targeting of innocents through the use of terror, which is a common enemy for Yasir Arafat and for the people of Israel, as well as --". She interrupted him, saying: "Palestinian people are fighting for their land." He responded: "I think that the killing of innocents is a category entirely different. Justifying killing of innocents for land is an argument in support of terrorism."
In January 2003, following a speech at a Society of Professional Journalists banquet, Thomas told an autograph-seeker, "I'm covering the worst president in American history." The autograph-seeker was a sports writer for The Daily Breeze and her comments were published
"No country has ever been recognized in this way"
After leaving her job as a reporter at the UPI, Thomas became more likely to air her personal, negative views. In a speech at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, she quipped, "I censored myself for 50 years when I was a reporter. Now I wake up and ask myself, ‘Who do I hate today?’
During President George W. Bush's first term, Thomas reacted to then-Press Secretary Ari Fleisher's statements about arms shipments to the terrorists by asking: "Where do the Israelis get their arms?" He responded "There's a difference Helen, and that is --". "What is the difference?", she asked. He responded: "The targeting of innocents through the use of terror, which is a common enemy for Yasir Arafat and for the people of Israel, as well as --". She interrupted him, saying: "Palestinian people are fighting for their land." He responded: "I think that the killing of innocents is a category entirely different. Justifying killing of innocents for land is an argument in support of terrorism."
In January 2003, following a speech at a Society of Professional Journalists banquet, Thomas told an autograph-seeker, "I'm covering the worst president in American history." The autograph-seeker was a sports writer for The Daily Breeze and her comments were published
"No country has ever been recognized in this way"
8 September 2011 16:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
When asked on TVNZ whether Julian Assange was a hero or villain, he replied "Hero", and has co-written an open letter of support for WikiLeaks and Assange.
When asked whether Julian Assange was a journalist, he replied "Yeah, actually, with all due respect, I think you (the mainstream media) should be following his example.",
Raymond McGovern (born 1939) is a retired CIA officer turned political activist. McGovern was a Federal employee under seven U.S. presidents over 27 years, presenting the morning intelligence briefings at the White House for many of them
McGovern was a mid-level officer in the CIA in the 1960s where his focus was analysis of Soviet policy toward Vietnam. McGovern was one of President Ronald Reagan's intelligence briefers from 1981–85; he was in charge of preparing daily security briefs for Reagan, Vice President George H.W. Bush, the National Security Advisor, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Cabinet. Later, McGovern was one of several senior CIA analysts who prepared the President's Daily Brief (PDB) during the first Bush administration.
Upon retirement, McGovern was awarded the Intelligence Commendation Medal from Bush (which he later returned)
In May 2006, McGovern attended a speech by then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and, during the question-and-answer session, accused him of lying about Iraq prewar intelligence. McGovern challenged Rumsfeld on several statements which Rumsfeld was on the record for saying
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_McGovern#Rumsfeld
When asked whether Julian Assange was a journalist, he replied "Yeah, actually, with all due respect, I think you (the mainstream media) should be following his example.",
Raymond McGovern (born 1939) is a retired CIA officer turned political activist. McGovern was a Federal employee under seven U.S. presidents over 27 years, presenting the morning intelligence briefings at the White House for many of them
McGovern was a mid-level officer in the CIA in the 1960s where his focus was analysis of Soviet policy toward Vietnam. McGovern was one of President Ronald Reagan's intelligence briefers from 1981–85; he was in charge of preparing daily security briefs for Reagan, Vice President George H.W. Bush, the National Security Advisor, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Cabinet. Later, McGovern was one of several senior CIA analysts who prepared the President's Daily Brief (PDB) during the first Bush administration.
Upon retirement, McGovern was awarded the Intelligence Commendation Medal from Bush (which he later returned)
In May 2006, McGovern attended a speech by then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and, during the question-and-answer session, accused him of lying about Iraq prewar intelligence. McGovern challenged Rumsfeld on several statements which Rumsfeld was on the record for saying
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_McGovern#Rumsfeld
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_McGovern#Rumsfeld
8 September 2011 16:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Michael F. Scheuer (born 1952) is a former CIA intelligence officer, American blogger, historian, foreign policy critic, and political analyst. He is currently an adjunct professor at Georgetown University's Center for Peace and Security Studies
Scheuer served in the CIA for 22 years before resigning in 2004. He was chief of the Osama bin Laden unit at the Counterterrorist Center from 1996 to 1999. He worked as Special Adviser to the Chief of the bin Laden Unit from September 2001 to November 2004. He is now known to have been the anonymous author of both the 2004 book Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror and the earlier anonymous work, Through Our Enemies' Eyes: Osama bin Laden, Radical Islam, and the Future of America. After his anonymously-published books had been publicly associated with his name, he was mentioned in an Osama bin Laden statement of September 7, 2007. According to bin Laden, "If you want to understand what's going on and if you would like to get to know some of the reasons for your losing the war against us, then read the book of Michael Scheuer in this regard.
Do not forget also read the negative reviews, as always
http://www.amazon.com/Imperial-Hubris-West-Losing-Terror/dp/1574888498/
http://www.amazon.com/THROUGH-OUR-ENEMIES-EYES-M/dp/1597971626/
Scheuer served in the CIA for 22 years before resigning in 2004. He was chief of the Osama bin Laden unit at the Counterterrorist Center from 1996 to 1999. He worked as Special Adviser to the Chief of the bin Laden Unit from September 2001 to November 2004. He is now known to have been the anonymous author of both the 2004 book Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror and the earlier anonymous work, Through Our Enemies' Eyes: Osama bin Laden, Radical Islam, and the Future of America. After his anonymously-published books had been publicly associated with his name, he was mentioned in an Osama bin Laden statement of September 7, 2007. According to bin Laden, "If you want to understand what's going on and if you would like to get to know some of the reasons for your losing the war against us, then read the book of Michael Scheuer in this regard.
Do not forget also read the negative reviews, as always
http://www.amazon.com/Imperial-Hubris-West-Losing-Terror/dp/1574888498/
http://www.amazon.com/THROUGH-OUR-ENEMIES-EYES-M/dp/1597971626/
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1574888498/ref=tsm_1_fb_lk
8 September 2011 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Scheuer became a public figure after being outed as the anonymous author of the 2004 book Imperial Hubris, in which he criticized many of the United States' assumptions about Islamist insurgencies and particularly Osama bin Laden. He depicts bin Laden as a rational actor who is fighting to weaken the United States by weakening its economy, rather than merely combating and killing Americans
In February 2009, Scheuer was terminated from his position as a senior fellow of The Jamestown Foundation. Scheuer has written that he was fired by the organization for stating that "the current state of the U.S.-Israel relationship undermined U.S. national security."
Scheuer's criticism of U.S. foreign policy includes a sweeping condemnation of the invasion of Iraq, which he has characterized as a "Christmas present" to Osama bin Laden's Islamist recruitment efforts, and a validation of bin Laden's claims that the U.S. is at war with Islam
In February 2009, Scheuer was terminated from his position as a senior fellow of The Jamestown Foundation. Scheuer has written that he was fired by the organization for stating that "the current state of the U.S.-Israel relationship undermined U.S. national security."
Scheuer's criticism of U.S. foreign policy includes a sweeping condemnation of the invasion of Iraq, which he has characterized as a "Christmas present" to Osama bin Laden's Islamist recruitment efforts, and a validation of bin Laden's claims that the U.S. is at war with Islam
8 September 2011 16:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
McGovern has been an outspoken commentator on intelligence-related issues since the late 1990s.
He was heavily critical of the government's handling of the Wen Ho Lee case in 2000.
In 2002 he was publicly critical of President George W. Bush's use of government intelligence in the lead-up to the war in Iraq.
In 2003, together with other former CIA employees, McGovern founded the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity or VIPS. The organization is dedicated to analyzing and criticizing the use of intelligence, specifically relating to the War in Iraq. In January 2006, McGovern began speaking out on behalf of the anti-war group Not in Our Name. According to the group's press release, McGovern served symbolic "war crimes indictments" on the Bush White House from a "people's tribunal."
McGovern has been outspoken in rejecting the official story of the 9/11 attacks and has joined the call for a new and independent investigation of 9/11
(from wiki)
He was heavily critical of the government's handling of the Wen Ho Lee case in 2000.
In 2002 he was publicly critical of President George W. Bush's use of government intelligence in the lead-up to the war in Iraq.
In 2003, together with other former CIA employees, McGovern founded the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity or VIPS. The organization is dedicated to analyzing and criticizing the use of intelligence, specifically relating to the War in Iraq. In January 2006, McGovern began speaking out on behalf of the anti-war group Not in Our Name. According to the group's press release, McGovern served symbolic "war crimes indictments" on the Bush White House from a "people's tribunal."
McGovern has been outspoken in rejecting the official story of the 9/11 attacks and has joined the call for a new and independent investigation of 9/11
(from wiki)
8 September 2011 16:07
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Sepp's post.
Ilm oleks jupp maad tumedam & lahenduste vaesem kui kõik inimesed enda teadvust ainult neile lubatud psühhotroopikaga muudaksid : )
8 September 2011 01:33
Margus Meigo commented on The Archaic Revival's post.
The time will come :)
8 September 2011 01:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Wave
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia_Lunch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia_Lunch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Wave
7 September 2011 18:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Dirty Work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0g8PrgeLIY
Times are hard
You're afraid to pay the fee
So you find yourself somebody
Who can do the job for free
When you need a bit of lovin'
Cause your man is out of town
That's the time you get me runnin'
And you know I'll be around
CHORUS:
I'm a fool to do your dirty work
Oh yeah
I don't wanna do your dirty work
No more
I'm a fool to do your dirty work
Oh yeah
Light the candle
Put the lock upon the door
You have sent the maid home early
Like a thousand times before
Like the castle in its corner
In a medieval game
I foresee terrible trouble
And I stay here just the same
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0g8PrgeLIY
Times are hard
You're afraid to pay the fee
So you find yourself somebody
Who can do the job for free
When you need a bit of lovin'
Cause your man is out of town
That's the time you get me runnin'
And you know I'll be around
CHORUS:
I'm a fool to do your dirty work
Oh yeah
I don't wanna do your dirty work
No more
I'm a fool to do your dirty work
Oh yeah
Light the candle
Put the lock upon the door
You have sent the maid home early
Like a thousand times before
Like the castle in its corner
In a medieval game
I foresee terrible trouble
And I stay here just the same
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0g8PrgeLIY
7 September 2011 18:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxEsUiPm17c
There is many other good lyrics from Steely Dan http://www.youtube.com/artist/Steely_Dan?feature=watch_video_title
Steen Dan lyrics:
Themes of sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll appear, but never in a straightforward manner, neither encouraging nor discouraging, and many (if not all) of their songs are tinged with an ironic edge
Additionally, many would argue that Steely Dan never wrote a real love song. However, some of the demo-era recordings show Fagen and Becker at their most romantic. Such songs include "This Seat's Been Taken", "Oh, Wow, It's You", "Come Back Baby", and "Rikki Don't Lose That Number". Other themes are also present, such as prejudice, aging, failure, poverty and middle-class ennui, but these are typically seen from an ironic and detached perspective. Many of their songs concern love, but none can be classed as straightforward love songs, since there is inevitably an ironic or disturbing twist in the lyrics. One may think the song is about love on first inspection, however, upon deeper analysis the listener realizes that the real story is about prostitution, incest ("Cousin Dupree"), or some other socially unacceptable subjec
Steely Dan's lyrics contain subtle and encoded references, unusual (and sometimes original) slang expressions, a wide variety of "word games" and intriguing lyrical choices and constructions of considerable depth. The obscure and sometimes teasing lyrics have given rise to considerable efforts by fans to explain the "inner meaning" of certain songs. Jazz is a recurring theme, with references abounding in their songs, and there are numerous other film, television and literary references and allusions, such as "Home at Last" (from Aja), which was inspired by The Odyssey.
Some of their lyrics are notable for their unusual meter patterns; a prime example of this is their 1972 hit "Reelin' In the Years", which crams an unusually large number of words into each line, giving it a highly syncopated quality.
"Name-checking" is another Steely Dan lyrical device; references to real places and people abound in their songs. The song "My Old School" is a well-known example, referring to Annandale (Annandale-on-Hudson, New York is the location of Bard College, which both attended and where they met), and the Two Against Nature album (2000) contains numerous references to the duo's original home region, the New York metro area, including the district of Gramercy Park, The Strand Bookstore and well-known upmarket food business Dean & DeLuca.
The band also often name-checks drinks, typically alcoholic, in their songs: rum and cokes ("Daddy Don't Live in That New York City No More"), piña coladas ("Bad Sneakers"), zombies ("Haitian Divorce"), black cows ("Black Cow"), Scotch whisky ("Deacon Blues"), retsina ("Home at Last"), grapefruit wine ("FM"), cherry wine ("Time Out of Mind"), Jose Cuervo Gold Tequila ("Hey Nineteen") and kirschwasser ("Babylon Sisters") are all mentioned in Steely Dan lyrics.
Katy tried
I was halfway crucified
I was on the other side
Of no tomorrow
You walked in
And my life began again
Just when I'd spent the last piaster
I could borrow
All night long
We would sing that stupid song
And every word we sang
I knew was true
Are you with me Doctor Wu
Are you really just a shadow
Of the man that I once knew
Are you crazy are you high
Or just an ordinary guy
Have you done all you can do
Are you with me Doctor
" In the night you hide from the madman
You're longing to be
But it all comes out on the inside
Eventually "
There is many other good lyrics from Steely Dan http://www.youtube.com/artist/Steely_Dan?feature=watch_video_title
Steen Dan lyrics:
Themes of sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll appear, but never in a straightforward manner, neither encouraging nor discouraging, and many (if not all) of their songs are tinged with an ironic edge
Additionally, many would argue that Steely Dan never wrote a real love song. However, some of the demo-era recordings show Fagen and Becker at their most romantic. Such songs include "This Seat's Been Taken", "Oh, Wow, It's You", "Come Back Baby", and "Rikki Don't Lose That Number". Other themes are also present, such as prejudice, aging, failure, poverty and middle-class ennui, but these are typically seen from an ironic and detached perspective. Many of their songs concern love, but none can be classed as straightforward love songs, since there is inevitably an ironic or disturbing twist in the lyrics. One may think the song is about love on first inspection, however, upon deeper analysis the listener realizes that the real story is about prostitution, incest ("Cousin Dupree"), or some other socially unacceptable subjec
Steely Dan's lyrics contain subtle and encoded references, unusual (and sometimes original) slang expressions, a wide variety of "word games" and intriguing lyrical choices and constructions of considerable depth. The obscure and sometimes teasing lyrics have given rise to considerable efforts by fans to explain the "inner meaning" of certain songs. Jazz is a recurring theme, with references abounding in their songs, and there are numerous other film, television and literary references and allusions, such as "Home at Last" (from Aja), which was inspired by The Odyssey.
Some of their lyrics are notable for their unusual meter patterns; a prime example of this is their 1972 hit "Reelin' In the Years", which crams an unusually large number of words into each line, giving it a highly syncopated quality.
"Name-checking" is another Steely Dan lyrical device; references to real places and people abound in their songs. The song "My Old School" is a well-known example, referring to Annandale (Annandale-on-Hudson, New York is the location of Bard College, which both attended and where they met), and the Two Against Nature album (2000) contains numerous references to the duo's original home region, the New York metro area, including the district of Gramercy Park, The Strand Bookstore and well-known upmarket food business Dean & DeLuca.
The band also often name-checks drinks, typically alcoholic, in their songs: rum and cokes ("Daddy Don't Live in That New York City No More"), piña coladas ("Bad Sneakers"), zombies ("Haitian Divorce"), black cows ("Black Cow"), Scotch whisky ("Deacon Blues"), retsina ("Home at Last"), grapefruit wine ("FM"), cherry wine ("Time Out of Mind"), Jose Cuervo Gold Tequila ("Hey Nineteen") and kirschwasser ("Babylon Sisters") are all mentioned in Steely Dan lyrics.
Katy tried
I was halfway crucified
I was on the other side
Of no tomorrow
You walked in
And my life began again
Just when I'd spent the last piaster
I could borrow
All night long
We would sing that stupid song
And every word we sang
I knew was true
Are you with me Doctor Wu
Are you really just a shadow
Of the man that I once knew
Are you crazy are you high
Or just an ordinary guy
Have you done all you can do
Are you with me Doctor
" In the night you hide from the madman
You're longing to be
But it all comes out on the inside
Eventually "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxEsUiPm17c
7 September 2011 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
A world become one
Of salads and sun
Only a fool would say that
A boy with a plan
A natural man
Wearing a white stetson hat
Unhand that gun begone
There's no one to fire upon
If he's holding it high
He's telling a lie
CHORUS:
I heard it was you
Talkin' 'bout a world
Where all is free
It just couldn't be
And only a fool would say that
The man in the street
Draggin' his feet
Don't wanna hear the bad news
Imagine your face
There is his place
Standing inside his brown shoes
You do his nine to five
Drag yourself home half alive
And there on the screen
A man with a dream
CHORUS
Anybody on the street
Has murder in his eyes
You feel no pain
And you're younger
Then you realize
--
As Grant Morrison told http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrybcY1Pzlg#t=8m50s - We have not been born jet :)
Of salads and sun
Only a fool would say that
A boy with a plan
A natural man
Wearing a white stetson hat
Unhand that gun begone
There's no one to fire upon
If he's holding it high
He's telling a lie
CHORUS:
I heard it was you
Talkin' 'bout a world
Where all is free
It just couldn't be
And only a fool would say that
The man in the street
Draggin' his feet
Don't wanna hear the bad news
Imagine your face
There is his place
Standing inside his brown shoes
You do his nine to five
Drag yourself home half alive
And there on the screen
A man with a dream
CHORUS
Anybody on the street
Has murder in his eyes
You feel no pain
And you're younger
Then you realize
--
As Grant Morrison told http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrybcY1Pzlg#t=8m50s - We have not been born jet :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrybcY1Pzlg
7 September 2011 17:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Soft Machine - Third - Full Album
From their cult status as the serious hippy’s favorite psychedelic band to their final days as the champions of fusion, Soft Machine never played the game by the rules.
Soft Machine were an English rock band from Canterbury, named after the book The Soft Machine by William S. Burroughs. Sharing the same management team as Jimi Hendrix, the band were rewarded with a support slot on the Jimi Hendrix Experience's North America tour throughout 1968.
They were one of the central bands in the Canterbury scene, and helped pioneer the progressive rock genre. Though they achieved little commercial success, they are considered by Allmusic to be "one of the more influential bands of their era, and certainly one of the most influential underground ones."
This first Soft Machine line-up became involved in the early UK underground, featuring prominently at the UFO Club, and subsequently other London clubs like the Speakeasy and Middle Earth, and recorded the group's first single ' Love Makes Sweet Music'
All members were highly literate in various musical backgrounds, but foremost was the eclectic genius of Ratledge, who through composition, arrangements and improvisational skills propelled a collective output of the highest standard, in which the vocal charm and extraordinarily original drumming of Wyatt, the lyricism of some of Dean's solos and the unusual avant-garde pop angle of Hopper's pieces all had a major role.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovor_ZWrAm8
00:00 - Facelift
18:48 - Slightly All the Time
37:02 - Moon in June
56:37 - Out - Bloody - Rageou
Graham Bennett's Soft Machine biography, Soft Machine: Out-Bloody-Rageous, was published in September 2005. In 2006 the book won an Award for Excellence in Historical Recorded Sound Research from the Association for Recorded Sound Collections.
http://www.amazon.com/Soft-Machine-Out-Bloody-Rageous-Graham-Bennett/dp/0946719845
(:
From their cult status as the serious hippy’s favorite psychedelic band to their final days as the champions of fusion, Soft Machine never played the game by the rules.
Soft Machine were an English rock band from Canterbury, named after the book The Soft Machine by William S. Burroughs. Sharing the same management team as Jimi Hendrix, the band were rewarded with a support slot on the Jimi Hendrix Experience's North America tour throughout 1968.
They were one of the central bands in the Canterbury scene, and helped pioneer the progressive rock genre. Though they achieved little commercial success, they are considered by Allmusic to be "one of the more influential bands of their era, and certainly one of the most influential underground ones."
This first Soft Machine line-up became involved in the early UK underground, featuring prominently at the UFO Club, and subsequently other London clubs like the Speakeasy and Middle Earth, and recorded the group's first single ' Love Makes Sweet Music'
All members were highly literate in various musical backgrounds, but foremost was the eclectic genius of Ratledge, who through composition, arrangements and improvisational skills propelled a collective output of the highest standard, in which the vocal charm and extraordinarily original drumming of Wyatt, the lyricism of some of Dean's solos and the unusual avant-garde pop angle of Hopper's pieces all had a major role.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovor_ZWrAm8
00:00 - Facelift
18:48 - Slightly All the Time
37:02 - Moon in June
56:37 - Out - Bloody - Rageou
Graham Bennett's Soft Machine biography, Soft Machine: Out-Bloody-Rageous, was published in September 2005. In 2006 the book won an Award for Excellence in Historical Recorded Sound Research from the Association for Recorded Sound Collections.
http://www.amazon.com/Soft-Machine-Out-Bloody-Rageous-Graham-Bennett/dp/0946719845
(:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovor_ZWrAm8
7 September 2011 17:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Revolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPFcgRei7Os
http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=142
http://www.lyricinterpretations.com/Beatles/Revolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_(song)
You say you want a revolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Alright, alright
You say you got a real solution
Well you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well you know
We're doing what we can
But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Alright, alright,
You say you'll change the constitution
Well you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well you know
You better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know know it's gonna be alright
Alright, alright
Alright, alright
Alright, alright
Alright, alright
Alright, alright
Oooooooo Buddy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPFcgRei7Os
http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=142
http://www.lyricinterpretations.com/Beatles/Revolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_(song)
You say you want a revolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Alright, alright
You say you got a real solution
Well you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well you know
We're doing what we can
But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Alright, alright,
You say you'll change the constitution
Well you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well you know
You better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know know it's gonna be alright
Alright, alright
Alright, alright
Alright, alright
Alright, alright
Alright, alright
Oooooooo Buddy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPFcgRei7Os
7 September 2011 17:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Come Together
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3JtCAw4_R4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_Together
This classic 1960s rock anthem with deep bluesy style was unlike any other song of its time in that it was constructed entirely of verse/refrains. There is no bridge and no chorus; one guitar solo is all that interrupts this radical song structure. For the first eight bars the tonic note, D, is repeated and then eventually it moves to the V chord and then to the IV chord. It then moves to the V minor chord, which is a progression rarely used, except in the song "I Heard It Through the Grapevine". The refrain in actuality is three bars long, because the melody keeps going after the last A5 chord and comes to rest on the D5 chord after that. It is also important to mention the introduction of F# in the melody with a B minor triad. The tonic is held for four bars between each verse and is the same as the contents of the introduction.
Within the verse there are four one-bar structures; each one a non-sequitur. The lyrics end each time on the abrupt beat four of each measure, giving the verse an AAAA phrasing structure. The phrasing structure in the second half of the verse is two bars of BB. The C phrasing structure of the refrain has three measures becoming one long phrase and ending on the word "me" which ties everything together. There is an eleven-bar verse/refrain from a ten bar form. The one bar phrase into the two bar phrase and the three bar overlap creates plenty of deceleration and pushes the title line of the song to the spotlight. The melody of the verse stays within the range of a perfect fourth. Using mostly three notes (D, F, C) the tonic, flat three and flat seven, it moves away later only for contrast when it hits the II (E) and stays on that note for two bars. The refrain stands out as the highest notes in the piece (A). John Lennon decided to use modal interchange.
In 1973, "Come Together" was the subject of a lawsuit brought against Lennon by Big Seven Music Corp. (owned by Morris Levy) who was the publisher of Chuck Berry's "You Can't Catch Me". Levy contended that it sounded similar musically to Berry's original and shared some lyrics (Lennon sang "Here come ol' flattop, he come groovin' up slowly" and Berry's had sung "Here come a flattop, he was movin' up with me"). Before recording, Lennon and McCartney deliberately slowed the song down and added a heavy bass riff in order to make the song more original. After settling out of court, Lennon promised to record three other songs owned by Levy. "You Can't Catch Me" and "Ya Ya" were released on Lennon's 1975 album Rock 'n' Roll, but the third, "Angel Baby", remained unreleased until after Lennon's death. Levy again sued Lennon for breach of contract, and was eventually awarded $6,795
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3JtCAw4_R4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_Together
This classic 1960s rock anthem with deep bluesy style was unlike any other song of its time in that it was constructed entirely of verse/refrains. There is no bridge and no chorus; one guitar solo is all that interrupts this radical song structure. For the first eight bars the tonic note, D, is repeated and then eventually it moves to the V chord and then to the IV chord. It then moves to the V minor chord, which is a progression rarely used, except in the song "I Heard It Through the Grapevine". The refrain in actuality is three bars long, because the melody keeps going after the last A5 chord and comes to rest on the D5 chord after that. It is also important to mention the introduction of F# in the melody with a B minor triad. The tonic is held for four bars between each verse and is the same as the contents of the introduction.
Within the verse there are four one-bar structures; each one a non-sequitur. The lyrics end each time on the abrupt beat four of each measure, giving the verse an AAAA phrasing structure. The phrasing structure in the second half of the verse is two bars of BB. The C phrasing structure of the refrain has three measures becoming one long phrase and ending on the word "me" which ties everything together. There is an eleven-bar verse/refrain from a ten bar form. The one bar phrase into the two bar phrase and the three bar overlap creates plenty of deceleration and pushes the title line of the song to the spotlight. The melody of the verse stays within the range of a perfect fourth. Using mostly three notes (D, F, C) the tonic, flat three and flat seven, it moves away later only for contrast when it hits the II (E) and stays on that note for two bars. The refrain stands out as the highest notes in the piece (A). John Lennon decided to use modal interchange.
In 1973, "Come Together" was the subject of a lawsuit brought against Lennon by Big Seven Music Corp. (owned by Morris Levy) who was the publisher of Chuck Berry's "You Can't Catch Me". Levy contended that it sounded similar musically to Berry's original and shared some lyrics (Lennon sang "Here come ol' flattop, he come groovin' up slowly" and Berry's had sung "Here come a flattop, he was movin' up with me"). Before recording, Lennon and McCartney deliberately slowed the song down and added a heavy bass riff in order to make the song more original. After settling out of court, Lennon promised to record three other songs owned by Levy. "You Can't Catch Me" and "Ya Ya" were released on Lennon's 1975 album Rock 'n' Roll, but the third, "Angel Baby", remained unreleased until after Lennon's death. Levy again sued Lennon for breach of contract, and was eventually awarded $6,795
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3JtCAw4_R4
7 September 2011 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Joe Cocker - With A Little Help From My Friends
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQLtCoh5EaI
John Lennon claimed this was not about drugs, but many people didn't believe him, including US vice president Spiro Agnew, who once told a crowd that this song was a "Tribute to the power of illegal drugs." He said the lines, "I get by with a little help from my friends, I get high with a little help from my friends," "Is a catchy tune, but until it was pointed out to me, I never realized that the 'friends' were assorted drugs!"
anyway, what lennon knows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQLtCoh5EaI
John Lennon claimed this was not about drugs, but many people didn't believe him, including US vice president Spiro Agnew, who once told a crowd that this song was a "Tribute to the power of illegal drugs." He said the lines, "I get by with a little help from my friends, I get high with a little help from my friends," "Is a catchy tune, but until it was pointed out to me, I never realized that the 'friends' were assorted drugs!"
anyway, what lennon knows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQLtCoh5EaI
7 September 2011 17:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Procol Harum
Procol Harum are a British rock band, formed in 1967, which contributed to the development of progressive rock, and by extension, symphonic rock
Although noted for its baroque and classical influence, Procol Harum's music also embraces the blues, R&B and soul
After "A Whiter Shade of Pale" became a hit, the band set out to consolidate their studio success by touring; their live debut was opening for Jimi Hendrix in 1967.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8jJ1ORIOes
http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=1131
The band's unusual name has inspired references in modern popular culture. The asteroid 14024 Procol Harum is named after the band. The orchid Procol Harum, a hybridisation of Cymbidium Mighty Sensation with Cymbidium Electric Ladyland, is also named after the band.
There are many corruptions of the phrase A Whiter Shade of Pale in the press. These are extensively listed at here. There is also a rose of that name.
The second book in Douglas Adams's Hitchhiker Trilogy, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, was inspired by the song "Grand Hotel", from Procol Harum's album of the same name.
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Gary Brooker, is an English singer, songwriter, pianist and founder of the rock band Procol Harum.
Brooker founded The Paramounts in 1962 with his guitarist friend Robin Trower. The band gained respect within the burgeoning 1960s British R&B scene, which yielded The Beatles, The Animals, The Spencer Davis Group, The Rolling Stones, and many others. The Rolling Stones, in particular, were Paramounts fans, giving them guest billing on several memorable shows in the early 1960s.The same year, Brooker joined friend and neighbour Eric Clapton's band
Brooker is a supporter of the Countryside Alliance and has played concerts to raise funds for the organisation.
Brooker was appointed Member of the Order of the British Empire
Procol Harum are a British rock band, formed in 1967, which contributed to the development of progressive rock, and by extension, symphonic rock
Although noted for its baroque and classical influence, Procol Harum's music also embraces the blues, R&B and soul
After "A Whiter Shade of Pale" became a hit, the band set out to consolidate their studio success by touring; their live debut was opening for Jimi Hendrix in 1967.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8jJ1ORIOes
http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=1131
The band's unusual name has inspired references in modern popular culture. The asteroid 14024 Procol Harum is named after the band. The orchid Procol Harum, a hybridisation of Cymbidium Mighty Sensation with Cymbidium Electric Ladyland, is also named after the band.
There are many corruptions of the phrase A Whiter Shade of Pale in the press. These are extensively listed at here. There is also a rose of that name.
The second book in Douglas Adams's Hitchhiker Trilogy, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, was inspired by the song "Grand Hotel", from Procol Harum's album of the same name.
---
Gary Brooker, is an English singer, songwriter, pianist and founder of the rock band Procol Harum.
Brooker founded The Paramounts in 1962 with his guitarist friend Robin Trower. The band gained respect within the burgeoning 1960s British R&B scene, which yielded The Beatles, The Animals, The Spencer Davis Group, The Rolling Stones, and many others. The Rolling Stones, in particular, were Paramounts fans, giving them guest billing on several memorable shows in the early 1960s.The same year, Brooker joined friend and neighbour Eric Clapton's band
Brooker is a supporter of the Countryside Alliance and has played concerts to raise funds for the organisation.
Brooker was appointed Member of the Order of the British Empire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8jJ1ORIOes
7 September 2011 16:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Procol Harum
'all hands on deck, we've run afloat!' I heard the captain cry
'explore the ship, replace the cook: let no one leave alive!'
Across the straits, around the horn: how far can sailors fly?
A twisted path, our tortured course, and no one left alive
We sailed for parts unknown to man, where ships come home to die
No lofty peak, nor fortress bold, could match our captain's eye
Upon the seventh seasick day we made our port of call
A sand so white, and sea so blue, no mortal place at all
We fired the gun, and burnt the mast, and rowed from ship to shore
The captain cried, we sailors wept: our tears were tears of joy
Now many moons and many junes have passed since we made land
A salty dog, this seaman's log: your witness my own hand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gi7Z3-T_qQ
The song's lyrics were heavy on metaphor and reversed meanings of words, a device that Keith Reid used a lot. A good example is the captain's phrase 'All hands on deck - I think we've run afloat' instead of 'aground'.
'I don't know what it's all about', admits Gary. 'You can put your own interpretation on it. Somebody in America once wrote about the song for her university degree thesis. She developed no less than 17 different interpretations of the song, which were all a kind of valid. I've always sung it for BJ Wilson since he died a couple of years ago, and it does seem to be about man's journey through life in some way. It's also about the group. It's a glowing piece of writing.'
http://www.procolharum.com/phalbum3a.htm
'all hands on deck, we've run afloat!' I heard the captain cry
'explore the ship, replace the cook: let no one leave alive!'
Across the straits, around the horn: how far can sailors fly?
A twisted path, our tortured course, and no one left alive
We sailed for parts unknown to man, where ships come home to die
No lofty peak, nor fortress bold, could match our captain's eye
Upon the seventh seasick day we made our port of call
A sand so white, and sea so blue, no mortal place at all
We fired the gun, and burnt the mast, and rowed from ship to shore
The captain cried, we sailors wept: our tears were tears of joy
Now many moons and many junes have passed since we made land
A salty dog, this seaman's log: your witness my own hand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gi7Z3-T_qQ
The song's lyrics were heavy on metaphor and reversed meanings of words, a device that Keith Reid used a lot. A good example is the captain's phrase 'All hands on deck - I think we've run afloat' instead of 'aground'.
'I don't know what it's all about', admits Gary. 'You can put your own interpretation on it. Somebody in America once wrote about the song for her university degree thesis. She developed no less than 17 different interpretations of the song, which were all a kind of valid. I've always sung it for BJ Wilson since he died a couple of years ago, and it does seem to be about man's journey through life in some way. It's also about the group. It's a glowing piece of writing.'
http://www.procolharum.com/phalbum3a.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gi7Z3-T_qQ
7 September 2011 16:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Charles Mingus Sextet: Live in Europe 1964
Full 2 hr
Charles Mingus Jr. (April 22, 1922 – January 5, 1979) was an American jazz musician, composer, bandleader, and civil rights activist.
Although Mingus' music was once believed to be too difficult to play without Mingus' leadership, many musicians play Mingus compositions today, from those who play with the repertory bands Mingus Big Band, Mingus Dynasty, and Mingus Orchestra, to the high school students who play the charts and compete in the Charles Mingus High School Competition.
In 1963, Mingus released The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady, a sprawling, multi-section masterpiece, described as "one of the greatest achievements in orchestration by any composer in jazz history."[14] The album was also unique in that Mingus asked his psychotherapist to provide notes for the record.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXAgcaDDy_I
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http://www.nytimes.com/1984/09/23/arts/an-irrepressible-65-mingus-concert.html
Full 2 hr
Charles Mingus Jr. (April 22, 1922 – January 5, 1979) was an American jazz musician, composer, bandleader, and civil rights activist.
Although Mingus' music was once believed to be too difficult to play without Mingus' leadership, many musicians play Mingus compositions today, from those who play with the repertory bands Mingus Big Band, Mingus Dynasty, and Mingus Orchestra, to the high school students who play the charts and compete in the Charles Mingus High School Competition.
In 1963, Mingus released The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady, a sprawling, multi-section masterpiece, described as "one of the greatest achievements in orchestration by any composer in jazz history."[14] The album was also unique in that Mingus asked his psychotherapist to provide notes for the record.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXAgcaDDy_I
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http://www.nytimes.com/1984/09/23/arts/an-irrepressible-65-mingus-concert.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXAgcaDDy_I
7 September 2011 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Dolphy's musical presence was hugely influential to a who's who of young jazz musicians who would become legends in their own right. Dolphy worked intermittently with Ron Carter and Freddie Hubbard throughout his career, and in later years he hired Herbie Hancock, Bobby Hutcherson and Woody Shaw to work in his live and studio bands
Carter, Hancock and Williams would go on to become one of the quintessential rhythm sections of the decade, both together on their own albums and as the backbone of the second great quintet of Miles Davis
In addition, his work with jazz and rock producer Alan Douglas allowed Dolphy's style to posthumously spread to musicians in the jazz fusion and rock environments, most notably with artists John McLaughlin and Jimi Hendrix. Frank Zappa, a highly influential composer who drew his inspiration from a variety of musical styles and idioms, paid tribute to Dolphy's style in the instrumental "The Eric Dolphy Memorial Barbecue"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pioA53AWxFI
Carter, Hancock and Williams would go on to become one of the quintessential rhythm sections of the decade, both together on their own albums and as the backbone of the second great quintet of Miles Davis
In addition, his work with jazz and rock producer Alan Douglas allowed Dolphy's style to posthumously spread to musicians in the jazz fusion and rock environments, most notably with artists John McLaughlin and Jimi Hendrix. Frank Zappa, a highly influential composer who drew his inspiration from a variety of musical styles and idioms, paid tribute to Dolphy's style in the instrumental "The Eric Dolphy Memorial Barbecue"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pioA53AWxFI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pioA53AWxFI
7 September 2011 16:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kuid jah, komentaarid on mitmed päris asjakohased seal
http://f.postimees.ee/f/2010/09/14/432257t55hb58c.jpg
http://f.postimees.ee/f/2010/09/14/432257t55hb58c.jpg
http://f.postimees.ee/f/2010/09/14/432257t55hb58c.jpg
7 September 2011 13:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
artiklisse on muidugi ka juurde pandud 'hirmutav' jutuke, sest muidu oleks sellise info jagamine kriminaal korras karistatav (psühhotroopsete ainete reklaamimise seadus vms vist kontrollis seda,et ainult negatiivselt või hoiatavas toolis võib neist asjadest avalikult rääkida)
Lisasin kaido ka kontaktidesse, ehk soovib ka komenteerida olukorrast riigis ja mida on ette võetud olukorra parandamiseks, kas valgus koordis juba paistab
Lisasin kaido ka kontaktidesse, ehk soovib ka komenteerida olukorrast riigis ja mida on ette võetud olukorra parandamiseks, kas valgus koordis juba paistab
7 September 2011 13:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
& the one and only, unforgettable (so be alarmed before looking) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU
& any other gay links, let it rain! :P
& any other gay links, let it rain! :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU
6 September 2011 22:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncr21IgkLDo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncr21IgkLDo
6 September 2011 22:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
wou, 8, kreisi
6 September 2011 22:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Oleme olevikus
Kuid miks ise ei võta?
Kuid miks ise ei võta?
6 September 2011 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
NU ega see kui praegu ymber lõigata ei tee kassipoegi olematuks
6 September 2011 21:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nu sadistlik oleks kassipojad ka nälgima jätta vist, või mis ?
6 September 2011 21:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
marian, elu on selline. Ega siin reageerida ei saa.
Mõned tapavad inimesi, mõned loomi, mõned putukaid, mõned lõbu pärast ja mõned selle pärast, et arvavad vaja olevat.
On väga palju hullemaid asju siin inimeste maailmas, iga päev, tuhandeid hullemaid asju kahjuks
Mõned tapavad inimesi, mõned loomi, mõned putukaid, mõned lõbu pärast ja mõned selle pärast, et arvavad vaja olevat.
On väga palju hullemaid asju siin inimeste maailmas, iga päev, tuhandeid hullemaid asju kahjuks
6 September 2011 21:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Samas muidugi ega see kasside fyysiline lõikamine ka, päris naturaalne tegevus pole.. huvitav kuidas need kassid siis looduslikult paljuneksid ja ennast reguleeriksid, ilma inimese käeta, mis juhtuks?
6 September 2011 21:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kurb on see, et omanik nii ka teeb kui homseks muid lahendusi ei tule.
6 September 2011 21:14
Margus Meigo commented on Carl English's post.
is it always like that or might one be able to make connection and drag other one to the next 'level' ?
6 September 2011 14:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6FTWv7abjU Where is the little girl!?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6FTWv7abjU
6 September 2011 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Asukoht rapla maakonnas, saab tallinnasse tuua.
Kaks kiisut on süsimustad, valgete käppade ja kõhualuse triibuga, üks kiisu on yleni süsimust, emased.
Perenaisest/mehest ootame hoolivust & armastust :)
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Kaks kiisut on süsimustad, valgete käppade ja kõhualuse triibuga, üks kiisu on yleni süsimust, emased.
Perenaisest/mehest ootame hoolivust & armastust :)
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6 September 2011 14:27
Margus Meigo commented on Carl English's post.
But in all, it's interesting learning experience for as long it lasts
6 September 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on George Douvris's link.
"Where Afghans are in charge, drugs are less but where the international community is in charge, drugs are up"
No surprise there :)
No surprise there :)
5 September 2011 02:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Kotlovnica in Action
(K) George4 September 2011 22:13
Margus Meigo commented on Gary Ayan's post.
Group: HTHC (High Tech Hippie Crew)
not active anymore?4 September 2011 14:30
Margus Meigo commented on Gary Ayan's post.
Group: HTHC (High Tech Hippie Crew)
"The page you requested was not found."4 September 2011 14:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
There is many other tipping points we are reaching, jes?
3 September 2011 18:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ-sKXuauTY
First version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWsUNbdc5IM
Each shade of blue
Is kept in our eyes
Keep blowing and lighting
Because we own the sky
Secrets from the winds
Burnt stars crying
Soft soft or cruel
Can't we change our minds?
We kill what we build
Because we own the sky
Secrets from the winds
Burnt stars crying
So many moons here
Lost wings floating
It's coming, it's coming now!
It's coming, it's coming now!
What's coming? What's coming now?
What's coming? What's coming now?
It's coming from the sky
It's coming from the wind
First version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWsUNbdc5IM
Each shade of blue
Is kept in our eyes
Keep blowing and lighting
Because we own the sky
Secrets from the winds
Burnt stars crying
Soft soft or cruel
Can't we change our minds?
We kill what we build
Because we own the sky
Secrets from the winds
Burnt stars crying
So many moons here
Lost wings floating
It's coming, it's coming now!
It's coming, it's coming now!
What's coming? What's coming now?
What's coming? What's coming now?
It's coming from the sky
It's coming from the wind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ-sKXuauTY
3 September 2011 15:35
Margus Meigo commented on Ken Saan's photo.
Kas teravpaljakuid ka näha oli?
31 August 2011 00:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://t.co/KIhi47U by time of day due to the rotation of the earth on its axis aswell as the revolution of the earth around the sun
http://t.co/KIhi47U
26 August 2011 01:44
Margus Meigo commented on Sta Yampinkia's album.
This is Great album!
24 August 2011 15:32
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Mõelda vaid kui päriselt ka kõik inimesed kes koos elavad nii toimiksid :)
24 August 2011 12:26
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
I way found my mind actually, but song is still god :))
24 August 2011 12:16
Margus Meigo commented on Merili Ta's post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KSAFWWE3MU Kuid Andreil sai DVD ka valmis, peaks septembris saabuma postiga : )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KSAFWWE3MU
24 August 2011 10:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://deep-high.blogspot.com/2011/01/last-supper-upper-room-alchemical-code.html (Leonardo Da Vinci / Bramante & Stanley Kubrick, 2001,Porta Sancta, ordo ab chao, sator rotas opera arepo tenet, LHC)
http://deep-high.blogspot.com/2011/01/last-supper-upper-room-alchemical-code.html
22 August 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Were-There-120-People-in-an-Upper-Room?&id=3084605 & The Bible i thought i know
http://ezinearticles.com/?Were-There-120-People-in-an-Upper-Room%3F&id=3084605
22 August 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/israel/jerusalem-last-supper-room (Last Supper Room, Jerusalem. Travel Destinations)
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/israel/jerusalem-last-supper-room
22 August 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.ewtn.com/faith/teachings/euchc2.htm (Global Catholic Network . The Institution of the Eucharist in Scripture -from a talk by Scott Hahn. )
http://www.ewtn.com/faith/teachings/euchc2.htm
22 August 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
https://sites.google.com/site/professorraykinsella/recent-announcements-1/easterreflectioneverythingwasmadenew-inthatupperroom (economist Ray Kinsella - Easter Reflection: Everything Was Made New-In That Upper Room)
https://sites.google.com/site/professorraykinsella/recent-announcements-1/easterreflectioneverythingwasmadenew-inthatupperroom
22 August 2011 14:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.christianchallenge.org/hebraic-foundations/Acts/Acts03.html ()Christian Challenge International - The Upper Room Before Pentecost)
http://www.christianchallenge.org/hebraic-foundations/Acts/Acts03.html
22 August 2011 14:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.invitationtochrist.org/day%20of%20pentecost.htm ()College Of The Open Bible - What Actually Happened?)
http://www.invitationtochrist.org/day%20of%20pentecost.htm
22 August 2011 14:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.askelm.com/news/n051012.htm (Associates for Scriptural Knowledge. David Sielaff - Where Was It? Were They the Same Room? )
http://www.askelm.com/news/n051012.htm
22 August 2011 14:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Some questions, some pages, some tools and for everyone - some piece of info from here and there & some future reading & joy for my self. Will answers also come someday.
22 August 2011 14:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
....Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paWjCpHC5xU
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Veni.sancte.spiritus.ogg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veni_Sancte_Spiritus to http://www.catholicity.com/prayer/sequence-for-the-solemnity-of-pentecost.html (The Mary Foundation. Stephen Langton, Archbishop of Canterbury)
to http://www.mountosb.org/music/sequence.html ...(Benedictrine Sisters) ... from wall to wall, also everyone on hes own language it seems sometimes :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cenacle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavuot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paWjCpHC5xU
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Veni.sancte.spiritus.ogg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veni_Sancte_Spiritus to http://www.catholicity.com/prayer/sequence-for-the-solemnity-of-pentecost.html (The Mary Foundation. Stephen Langton, Archbishop of Canterbury)
to http://www.mountosb.org/music/sequence.html ...(Benedictrine Sisters) ... from wall to wall, also everyone on hes own language it seems sometimes :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cenacle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavuot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paWjCpHC5xU
22 August 2011 14:14
Margus Meigo commented on Sepp Hasslberger's link.
They need a hug
22 August 2011 11:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu see kõik ju huvitav, ei tundunud v?
Kuidas vaadatakse seda lyme asja nagu sellega ainult midagi halba kaasneks. Üldiselt enamuste nakkuste või haiguste puhul jääb mulje mul nagu keksendutakse halvale. Nii ühekülgne lähenemine :)
Kuidas vaadatakse seda lyme asja nagu sellega ainult midagi halba kaasneks. Üldiselt enamuste nakkuste või haiguste puhul jääb mulje mul nagu keksendutakse halvale. Nii ühekülgne lähenemine :)
20 August 2011 17:06
Margus Meigo commented on Merili Ta's post.
Andrei pidi olema valmis saanudpõhi video, kuid ma võin kuskile ülesse laadida yhte-teist. Momendil muidugi veel täpselt ei hakka lubama millal seda teen
20 August 2011 16:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
5) Environmental
Situations, relationships, work, home
The emotional, cognitive, physical and behavioural effects of DPAFU described above can have a negative impact on the sufferer's environmental experience; symptoms such as loss of concentration and emotional numbness can make work difficult to handle and personal relationships may suffer.
Or may improve i might add
Like this post if you actually read it all, then i know ;)
Situations, relationships, work, home
The emotional, cognitive, physical and behavioural effects of DPAFU described above can have a negative impact on the sufferer's environmental experience; symptoms such as loss of concentration and emotional numbness can make work difficult to handle and personal relationships may suffer.
Or may improve i might add
Like this post if you actually read it all, then i know ;)
19 August 2011 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
4) Behavioural
What you do more or less of, things you avoid
When we feel discomfort or stress, it is natural to try to find behaviours, thoughts, situations or substances to take away those unpleasant feelings.
For example,
* sufferers (ok, it's symbolic right?) may stop drinking alcohol or try to improve diet and exercise regimes.
* Any action that is used to take away distress or discomfort in this way is called a safety-seeking behaviour.
Sufferers may also employ avoidance tactics, for example going to great lengths to avoid looking in the mirror, being with people, or even leaving the house.
Both these behaviours can appear useful in the short-term, but tend not to last and can actually make the situation worse over time, perpetuating the negative cycles that maintain the problems associated with DPAFU.
What you do more or less of, things you avoid
When we feel discomfort or stress, it is natural to try to find behaviours, thoughts, situations or substances to take away those unpleasant feelings.
For example,
* sufferers (ok, it's symbolic right?) may stop drinking alcohol or try to improve diet and exercise regimes.
* Any action that is used to take away distress or discomfort in this way is called a safety-seeking behaviour.
Sufferers may also employ avoidance tactics, for example going to great lengths to avoid looking in the mirror, being with people, or even leaving the house.
Both these behaviours can appear useful in the short-term, but tend not to last and can actually make the situation worse over time, perpetuating the negative cycles that maintain the problems associated with DPAFU.
19 August 2011 15:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
3) Physical
Bodily changes, sleep patterns, numbness
Many feel as though bodily changes have taken place; their head may feel strange, for example large or numb, the body may feel weightless, hollow or lifeless and some may lose their sense of touch, taste or smell. In some people this experience is so intense that they touch, punch or prick themselves to try to feel 'normal' again.
People's experience of their surroundings can become odd or unusual - occasionally people complain of visual distortion involving the size of objects, their three-dimensionality, or the sharpness of colours.
Bodily changes, sleep patterns, numbness
Many feel as though bodily changes have taken place; their head may feel strange, for example large or numb, the body may feel weightless, hollow or lifeless and some may lose their sense of touch, taste or smell. In some people this experience is so intense that they touch, punch or prick themselves to try to feel 'normal' again.
People's experience of their surroundings can become odd or unusual - occasionally people complain of visual distortion involving the size of objects, their three-dimensionality, or the sharpness of colours.
19 August 2011 15:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
2) Cognitive
Thoughts, beliefs, meanings, images, attention and memory
It is common for 'sufferers' (again, how come for sure sufferers?) to
* spend excessive amounts of time
* worrying about abstract, existential, metaphysical or hypochondriacal issues,
such as the meanings of words, how other people experience the world, the meaning of life and concepts of space and time.
Some 'sufferers' may be quite introverted or preoccupied, as they spend a lot of time dwelling on their thoughts, and may appear wrapped up in their own world :)
Many 'sufferers' have difficulty with attention and memory; they may have problems remembering everyday things, struggle to take in new information and experience thoughts that are speeded up and confused.
Thoughts, beliefs, meanings, images, attention and memory
It is common for 'sufferers' (again, how come for sure sufferers?) to
* spend excessive amounts of time
* worrying about abstract, existential, metaphysical or hypochondriacal issues,
such as the meanings of words, how other people experience the world, the meaning of life and concepts of space and time.
Some 'sufferers' may be quite introverted or preoccupied, as they spend a lot of time dwelling on their thoughts, and may appear wrapped up in their own world :)
Many 'sufferers' have difficulty with attention and memory; they may have problems remembering everyday things, struggle to take in new information and experience thoughts that are speeded up and confused.
19 August 2011 15:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://www.overcoming.co.uk/single.htm?ipg=8745
1) Emotional
How you feel, your moods, numbness
People with DPAFU experience an alteration in their perception or experience of the self. 'Sufferers' often report that their actions feel 'robotic', and as if they are an outside observer of their own body and mental processes. Their voice may sound unfamiliar and their thoughts, speech and actions no longer feel spontaneous.
Another major factor 'sufferers' describe is an inability to feel emotion, even towards those close to them.
There can be an additional feeling of being cut off from the world, and even one's self; for example, some sufferers feel detached from their own reflection when looking in the mirror. This can lead to doubts and confusion about one's own identity.
Many sufferers also report significant levels of anxiety, which can manifest itself as panic attacks, a fear of going out alone, intense anxiety in social situations, or a tendency to worry too much.
1) Emotional
How you feel, your moods, numbness
People with DPAFU experience an alteration in their perception or experience of the self. 'Sufferers' often report that their actions feel 'robotic', and as if they are an outside observer of their own body and mental processes. Their voice may sound unfamiliar and their thoughts, speech and actions no longer feel spontaneous.
Another major factor 'sufferers' describe is an inability to feel emotion, even towards those close to them.
There can be an additional feeling of being cut off from the world, and even one's self; for example, some sufferers feel detached from their own reflection when looking in the mirror. This can lead to doubts and confusion about one's own identity.
Many sufferers also report significant levels of anxiety, which can manifest itself as panic attacks, a fear of going out alone, intense anxiety in social situations, or a tendency to worry too much.
http://www.overcoming.co.uk/single.htm?ipg=8745
19 August 2011 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Comments:
http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Suffer-From-Depersonalization-Disorder/1223123
"..I'm a little confused because many of the spiritual studies that I have been searching lately give this very description as a state one might attempt to achieve through meditation and it is considered highly desirable on a spiritual level. It is my understanding that when we are in this state of not having an emotional attachment to our thoughts, we are then able to connect with higher our intelligence -- once we get our own thoughts to step aside we can then see ourselves and our current situations objectively and as the small matters that they really are. Am I way off base? Can you enlighten me as to the difference?"
reply:
"When it happens as a result of thinking but it is unintentional, it is scary (imagine having an LSD flashback but never having taken LSD). It results from left brain activity (judgments, attack thoughts, negativity, low self-esteem, etc.) Some sources believe it is a form of epilepsy resulting from brain damage (chemical intoxication, trauma, illness). Imagine looking in the mirror and not believing that it is you staring back... Star Trek Next Generation had that on one of its episodes when Counselor Troi was "possessed". Most people would find that very idea extremly fearful.
When we detach deliberatly through meditation it is because we activated the right brain activity and it is a "Whew... I'm home! - feeling". The methodology of meditation takes us there gently and in a way that is consistent with Oneness.
One is an attack, an assault on our consciousness. The other is an expansion, and a peacefulness of our Consciousness. In one, we are less - in the other we are more. In one, we are in fear, and in the other we are in love. One is an obsession with self, the other is a recognition of Self.
Those looking to attain spiritual balance usually have the more turbulant lives and issues because they are closer to the next step of graduation. That's why its important not to judge those who struggle as Less Than; in many ways they are closer to One and taking on the harder tasks. Those whose lives have only average highs and lows are not further along the path, although the concept of balance is vital. Avoiding risk is not necessarily better, especially if the avoidance is due to fear, and we can't learn to make good decisions until we have learned which decisions are bad (neither "good" nor "bad" as judgments help much, though).
Managing our physical selves is vital to spiritual growth, so when it jumps on us such as in DPAFU, it does need to be overcome. In meditation, many techniques are used including the controlling of breathing, posture and sensation. These are ways to learn mastery over the physical body. The physical body provides the weight-lifting weight we need to develop our spiritual muscles.
This is all my opinion and cannot be proven at this time. I can be wrong about anything and everything. Just sayin'... "
:)
http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Suffer-From-Depersonalization-Disorder/1223123
"..I'm a little confused because many of the spiritual studies that I have been searching lately give this very description as a state one might attempt to achieve through meditation and it is considered highly desirable on a spiritual level. It is my understanding that when we are in this state of not having an emotional attachment to our thoughts, we are then able to connect with higher our intelligence -- once we get our own thoughts to step aside we can then see ourselves and our current situations objectively and as the small matters that they really are. Am I way off base? Can you enlighten me as to the difference?"
reply:
"When it happens as a result of thinking but it is unintentional, it is scary (imagine having an LSD flashback but never having taken LSD). It results from left brain activity (judgments, attack thoughts, negativity, low self-esteem, etc.) Some sources believe it is a form of epilepsy resulting from brain damage (chemical intoxication, trauma, illness). Imagine looking in the mirror and not believing that it is you staring back... Star Trek Next Generation had that on one of its episodes when Counselor Troi was "possessed". Most people would find that very idea extremly fearful.
When we detach deliberatly through meditation it is because we activated the right brain activity and it is a "Whew... I'm home! - feeling". The methodology of meditation takes us there gently and in a way that is consistent with Oneness.
One is an attack, an assault on our consciousness. The other is an expansion, and a peacefulness of our Consciousness. In one, we are less - in the other we are more. In one, we are in fear, and in the other we are in love. One is an obsession with self, the other is a recognition of Self.
Those looking to attain spiritual balance usually have the more turbulant lives and issues because they are closer to the next step of graduation. That's why its important not to judge those who struggle as Less Than; in many ways they are closer to One and taking on the harder tasks. Those whose lives have only average highs and lows are not further along the path, although the concept of balance is vital. Avoiding risk is not necessarily better, especially if the avoidance is due to fear, and we can't learn to make good decisions until we have learned which decisions are bad (neither "good" nor "bad" as judgments help much, though).
Managing our physical selves is vital to spiritual growth, so when it jumps on us such as in DPAFU, it does need to be overcome. In meditation, many techniques are used including the controlling of breathing, posture and sensation. These are ways to learn mastery over the physical body. The physical body provides the weight-lifting weight we need to develop our spiritual muscles.
This is all my opinion and cannot be proven at this time. I can be wrong about anything and everything. Just sayin'... "
:)
http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Suffer-From-Depersonalization-Disorder/1223123
19 August 2011 15:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The Depersonalisation Research Unit at the Institute of Psychiatry in London is a world leader in research in depersonalization disorder. Researchers there use the acronym DPAFU (Depersonalisation and Feelings of Unreality) as a shortened label for the disorder.
19 August 2011 15:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
A recently-completed study at Columbia University in New York City has shown positive effects from transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) to treat depersonalization disorder. Currently, however, the FDA has not approved TMS to treat DP
A recent Russian study showed that naloxone, a drug used to reverse the intoxicating effects of opioid drugs, can successfully treat depersonalization disorder. According to the study: "In three of 14 patients, depersonalization symptoms disappeared entirely and seven patients showed a marked improvement. The therapeutic effect of naloxone provides evidence for the role of the endogenous opioid system in the pathogenesis of depersonalization."
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMra072023
A critical appraisal of "chronic Lyme disease
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17914043
A recent Russian study showed that naloxone, a drug used to reverse the intoxicating effects of opioid drugs, can successfully treat depersonalization disorder. According to the study: "In three of 14 patients, depersonalization symptoms disappeared entirely and seven patients showed a marked improvement. The therapeutic effect of naloxone provides evidence for the role of the endogenous opioid system in the pathogenesis of depersonalization."
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMra072023
A critical appraisal of "chronic Lyme disease
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17914043
19 August 2011 15:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Lieutenant Colonel Dave Grossman, in his book On Killing, suggests that military training artificially creates depersonalization in soldiers, suppressing empathy and making it easier for them to kill other human beings.
A hypothesis, posited by writer David Zweig, called Fiction Depersonalization Syndrome, suggests that depersonalization may be triggered by being immersed in a highly mediated environment
A hypothesis, posited by writer David Zweig, called Fiction Depersonalization Syndrome, suggests that depersonalization may be triggered by being immersed in a highly mediated environment
19 August 2011 15:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Depersonalization is the third most common psychological symptom, after feelings of anxiety and feelings of depression.
Depersonalization may also be a desirable effect, such as in the case of recreational drugs. It is an effect of dissociatives and psychedelics, as well as possible side effect of caffeine, alcohol, cannabis, and minocycline. It is a classic withdrawal symptom from many drugs
Depersonalization may also be a desirable effect, such as in the case of recreational drugs. It is an effect of dissociatives and psychedelics, as well as possible side effect of caffeine, alcohol, cannabis, and minocycline. It is a classic withdrawal symptom from many drugs
19 August 2011 15:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Depersonalization (or depersonalisation) is an anomaly of the mechanism by which an individual has self-awareness. It is a feeling of watching oneself act, while having no control over a situation. 'Sufferers' feel they have changed, and the world has become less real, vague, dreamlike, or lacking in significance. It can be a disturbing experience, since many feel that, indeed, they are living in a " "dream" ". Chronic depersonalization refers to depersonalization disorder, which is classified by the DSM-IV as a dissociative disorder...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization
Are you in that a lot of medical texts are like black and white waterfall sketch description?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization
Are you in that a lot of medical texts are like black and white waterfall sketch description?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization
19 August 2011 14:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
These practitioners suggest a condition they call "chronic Lyme" (resembling chronic fatigue syndrome or fibromyalgia) exists in the absence of evidence for Borrelia infection. Their proposed treatment of patients with months or years of antibiotics is opposed by the wider medical community's scientific consensus, since these treatments are potentially dangerous, are not based on diagnoses with objective evidence, and have been shown in clinical trials to be ineffective even when evidence of infection is present.
19 August 2011 14:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You see, no all bad after All :)
19 August 2011 14:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Panic attack and anxiety can occur, also delusional behavior, including somatoform delusions, sometimes accompanied by a depersonalization or derealization syndrome, where the patients begin to feel detached from themselves or from reality
19 August 2011 14:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Chronic encephalomyelitis, which may be progressive, can involve cognitive impairment, weakness in the legs, awkward gait, facial palsy, bladder problems, vertigo, and back pain. In rare cases untreated Lyme disease may cause frank psychosis, which has been mis-diagnosed as schizophrenia or bipolar disorder.
19 August 2011 14:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
However, other problems, such as depression and fibromyalgia, are no more common in people who have been infected with Lyme than in the general population.
19 August 2011 14:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Some startup medical storyes & specualtions for ppl with intrest (seemed to be on topic with first look):
http://www.marijuanalibrary.org/JOPD_Immunity_Hollister_92.html
http://cannabis-science.com/legalization.html
http://www.ukcia.org/research/EffectsOfMarijuanaOnLungAndImmuneDefenses.php
But most of all, questions might arise how something that lovers imune system can make us helathier ( just by changing the way we operate with our brain, or rather - just let's new thoughts in that can benafit our health) . And as they say - 'it's all in ur head' - well, it's seems there is a lot in the head that we try to find/cure with enema
http://www.marijuanalibrary.org/JOPD_Immunity_Hollister_92.html
http://cannabis-science.com/legalization.html
http://www.ukcia.org/research/EffectsOfMarijuanaOnLungAndImmuneDefenses.php
But most of all, questions might arise how something that lovers imune system can make us helathier ( just by changing the way we operate with our brain, or rather - just let's new thoughts in that can benafit our health) . And as they say - 'it's all in ur head' - well, it's seems there is a lot in the head that we try to find/cure with enema
http://www.marijuanalibrary.org/JOPD_Immunity_Hollister_92.html
19 August 2011 14:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu ja ses suhtes ka õigus, kui inimene praegu juba ei vali mida endal suust sisse ajab, mida ostab, mis seal sees on ja kus täpselt tehtud on - siis miks peaksid nad suuremat tähelepanu ja hoolikust kõikidele ainetele ja nende eri versioonidele pöörama. Seega vaja hoolivust ja tähelepanelikust kõikides tasemetes, ning alustada tuleb just elementaarsest, täiesti õige Erik :)
19 August 2011 14:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidugi piima otsuse osas ma kiidan nad heaks, meil siiamaani tõsimeeli kujutatakse ette, et piima jook on sama mis piim ja müüakse südame rahuga sellise rasva % piima poes mida looduses saada ei ole võimalik.
19 August 2011 14:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
But to be honest, it's hard to find Fool proof solution. Willam pointed out few http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSw75zU9lcE#t=4m00 but these are not the only ones that we should be worried about (from minute 4). Or at least i am.
Would i vote yes for all of it? Well, one must think about it.
As Lama told today in estonia - setting some piddings free and pray will not be solution for wp
Would i vote yes for all of it? Well, one must think about it.
As Lama told today in estonia - setting some piddings free and pray will not be solution for wp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSw75zU9lcE
17 August 2011 22:57
Margus Meigo commented on Albert Pike's post.
Also behind the eye?
17 August 2011 12:16
Margus Meigo commented on Ellen Vaman's link.
I need these guys for my project : ))
Tahnk you for the post Ellen Love Vaman!
Tahnk you for the post Ellen Love Vaman!
17 August 2011 10:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i like the ones with weals, then one can drive one right in
17 August 2011 10:18
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Koitla's link.
Tegelikult Aivar, sa ei ole kellegi muu õpetaja kui ise enda. Su suhtlusringkonnas on inimesi keda enamus ühiskonnast kohe kuidagi ei suuda tolereerida, kui elu CV avalik ja arusaadav oleks - see näitab sallivust, loodan, et ma siin kohal ei eksi.
"...sest just kristlus on pannud ideoloogilise aluse tänasele Lääne tsivilisatsioonile..." - no siis vähemalt teame kuhu vaadata... :)
Kuid.. kas Sa Aivar usud et sa oled kristlikute Õpetustega seotud või tead seda? Ning kuidas?
Kas sa ei nõustu, et neid asju ei õpita vaid saadakse aru, tunnetatakse ja eelkõige elatakse nende põhimõtete järgi.
Seega palun ära maini kellegile, et "olen õppinud kristlust..."
Inimene võib ju kunstiajalugu õppida kuid ega see tema joonistamise oskusele kaasa ei aita kui joonistada ise ei julge. Muidugi siis veel on ütlemine, et ega selleks ei pea olema kana, et teada milline muna mäda on. Kuid ka see ole küsitav kas kana ise ikka teab mida ta muneb...
Rohkem armastust su ellu ja kõik läheb paremaks! :)
"...sest just kristlus on pannud ideoloogilise aluse tänasele Lääne tsivilisatsioonile..." - no siis vähemalt teame kuhu vaadata... :)
Kuid.. kas Sa Aivar usud et sa oled kristlikute Õpetustega seotud või tead seda? Ning kuidas?
Kas sa ei nõustu, et neid asju ei õpita vaid saadakse aru, tunnetatakse ja eelkõige elatakse nende põhimõtete järgi.
Seega palun ära maini kellegile, et "olen õppinud kristlust..."
Inimene võib ju kunstiajalugu õppida kuid ega see tema joonistamise oskusele kaasa ei aita kui joonistada ise ei julge. Muidugi siis veel on ütlemine, et ega selleks ei pea olema kana, et teada milline muna mäda on. Kuid ka see ole küsitav kas kana ise ikka teab mida ta muneb...
Rohkem armastust su ellu ja kõik läheb paremaks! :)
17 August 2011 10:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ning need keda kardetakse mitte oskavat, neid keelud ammugi ei aita kuidagi teadlikumaks saada kuidas ja mida tarbida või mitte.
Ühed lingid mis käepärast olid täna:
http://www.thc-ministry.net/untoldstory/index.html
http://www.mindofme.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=152&Itemid=327
"...Very few people realized that marijuana and hemp came from the same plant species; thus, virtually nobody knew that Marijuana Prohibition would destroy the hemp industry.
Bolstering the theory that marijuana was banned to destroy the hemp industry, two articles were written on the eve of Marijuana Prohibition that claim hemp was on the verge of becoming a super crop.."
"Why hemp? Because it is, by far, Earth's premier, renewable natural resource. The hemp plant can single-handedly reverse the Greenhouse Effect, purify our air, water, & soil, and clothe and shelter us in a sustainable fashion.
Hemp paper lasts 50 to 100 times longer than most preparations of papyrus and is a hundred times easier and cheaper to make. It also does not yellow with age like acidic paper made from tree pulp.."
Ühesõnaga me tilbendame siiani 30'ndatel usas enamalt korporatsioonide (puidu, alkoholi ja hiljem ka meditsiini, riiete, toidu ja sõjaväe sektor) ja usklikute rassistide tehtud seaduse taga mis ühed õnnelikuks ja teised rikkaks tegid. Ning me imestame veel?
Huvitavaid fakte on veelgi rohkem kui seal kirjas, kui edasi uurida.
http://www.alternet.org/drugs/148013/5_things_the_corporate_media_and_government_don't_want_you_to_know_about_marijuana/
1. Long-term marijuana use is associated with lower risks of certain cancers, including head and neck cancer.
2. Most Americans acknowledge that pot is safer than booze. (so you see, we here have something to learn..)
4. Marijuana may be helpful, not harmful, to people with schizophrenia
Muidugi on palju tõsisemaid fakte veel mida nad teada ei taha, kuid need vajavad veel natuke uurimist ja eksperimenteerimist :)
Alternet reader facts
:
Readers AGE
22% 18-34
31% 35-49
42% 50+
EDUCATION
48% College Degree
26% Graduate+
2.3M Unique Monthly Visitors
Ühed lingid mis käepärast olid täna:
http://www.thc-ministry.net/untoldstory/index.html
http://www.mindofme.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=152&Itemid=327
"...Very few people realized that marijuana and hemp came from the same plant species; thus, virtually nobody knew that Marijuana Prohibition would destroy the hemp industry.
Bolstering the theory that marijuana was banned to destroy the hemp industry, two articles were written on the eve of Marijuana Prohibition that claim hemp was on the verge of becoming a super crop.."
"Why hemp? Because it is, by far, Earth's premier, renewable natural resource. The hemp plant can single-handedly reverse the Greenhouse Effect, purify our air, water, & soil, and clothe and shelter us in a sustainable fashion.
Hemp paper lasts 50 to 100 times longer than most preparations of papyrus and is a hundred times easier and cheaper to make. It also does not yellow with age like acidic paper made from tree pulp.."
Ühesõnaga me tilbendame siiani 30'ndatel usas enamalt korporatsioonide (puidu, alkoholi ja hiljem ka meditsiini, riiete, toidu ja sõjaväe sektor) ja usklikute rassistide tehtud seaduse taga mis ühed õnnelikuks ja teised rikkaks tegid. Ning me imestame veel?
Huvitavaid fakte on veelgi rohkem kui seal kirjas, kui edasi uurida.
http://www.alternet.org/drugs/148013/5_things_the_corporate_media_and_government_don't_want_you_to_know_about_marijuana/
1. Long-term marijuana use is associated with lower risks of certain cancers, including head and neck cancer.
2. Most Americans acknowledge that pot is safer than booze. (so you see, we here have something to learn..)
4. Marijuana may be helpful, not harmful, to people with schizophrenia
Muidugi on palju tõsisemaid fakte veel mida nad teada ei taha, kuid need vajavad veel natuke uurimist ja eksperimenteerimist :)
Alternet reader facts
:
Readers AGE
22% 18-34
31% 35-49
42% 50+
EDUCATION
48% College Degree
26% Graduate+
2.3M Unique Monthly Visitors
http://www.thc-ministry.net/untoldstory/index.html
16 August 2011 23:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vabadused ka kõigile keda riivasin - lihtsalt pidin endast välja saama selle :)
16 August 2011 19:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See pole oluline kas sa suitsetad ise või mitte - idiotismile kaasa aitamine ei ole vabandatav.
Ärgake ülesse, ei ole raske punkte ühendada.
Ärgake ülesse, ei ole raske punkte ühendada.
16 August 2011 19:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Varsti hakkame nendega kes soovivad päevas ühe joini suitsetama jaoskonna ees, seni kuni see riigi & tervise vastane (lisaks muudele) allmaailma toetav lapselikel arusaamadel ja tabudel põhinev totter nõiajaht ära lõpetatakse.
Siiber ees juba ees idiokraatias elamisest. Kas eestis ei ole ühtegi ajude ja munade kooslusega poliitikut või inteligenti kes julgeks rääkima hakata mida need keelustamised Tegelikult kaasa toovad?
Mis on tegelikud põhjused ja keda me sellise tagurliku mõtlemisega toetame?
Naerame siin ameeriklaste ja ei tea kelle üle, ise ajame samat Põhi liini kus ei julgeta asjade sügavusest aru saada ja piirdutakse sellega mida keegi kuskil ütleb ilma asja uurimata.
Tule taevas appi
Siiber ees juba ees idiokraatias elamisest. Kas eestis ei ole ühtegi ajude ja munade kooslusega poliitikut või inteligenti kes julgeks rääkima hakata mida need keelustamised Tegelikult kaasa toovad?
Mis on tegelikud põhjused ja keda me sellise tagurliku mõtlemisega toetame?
Naerame siin ameeriklaste ja ei tea kelle üle, ise ajame samat Põhi liini kus ei julgeta asjade sügavusest aru saada ja piirdutakse sellega mida keegi kuskil ütleb ilma asja uurimata.
Tule taevas appi
16 August 2011 19:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Got Cannabis?
16 August 2011 19:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
But as always - there is more:)
12 August 2011 13:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Well by early Saturday morning a weapon was deployed in DefCon. Some characteristics of Hack Attack :
- full active MitM against CDMA and 4G connections from Rio to carriers.
- MitM positioning for remote exploitation to ring0 on Android and PC.
- fall back to userspace only or non-persistent methods when persistent root kit unattainable.
- many attack trees and weaponized exploits. escalation from easy owned up to specialized techniques and tactics until success is achieved.
- simultaneous attack across CDMA and 4G connections using full power in these Licensed bands.
- operated continuously from early Saturday until 8am Monday.
- designed with intent: mass exploitation, reconnaissance, exfiltration, eavesdropping.
Now How you can Judge that, You got Hacked in Defcon 19 Conference at Rao :
- did you accept an upgrade for Android, Java, or other applications?
- did you notice 3G/4G signal anomalies, including full signal yet poor bandwidth or no link?
- did you notice your Android at full charged plugged in, but dropping to <50% charge once unplugged?
- did you notice 4G download speeds at quarter of usual, yet uploads over twice as fast?
- did you notice Android services that immediately respawn when killed? (Voice Search?)
- does your Android no longer connect to USB debugging yet adbd is alive?
- does your PC have an sshd that cannot be kill -9'd?
- did your Android crash - a hard freeze, and then take a long time to reboot?
...many other indicators, but for now that's sufficient to express the point.
Coderman Claim that in fact Hackers probably didn't even notice as it pilfered bytes off your devices and monitored their conversations. At last he says "to those who got pwned, i would be interested in your experiences and binaries:
ID 9B65F087 , FP = 1029 E3E0 F22A C73D B2D6 468F 2798 76BB 9B65 F087
gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 9B65F087
gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 9B65F087
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 9B65F087".
- full active MitM against CDMA and 4G connections from Rio to carriers.
- MitM positioning for remote exploitation to ring0 on Android and PC.
- fall back to userspace only or non-persistent methods when persistent root kit unattainable.
- many attack trees and weaponized exploits. escalation from easy owned up to specialized techniques and tactics until success is achieved.
- simultaneous attack across CDMA and 4G connections using full power in these Licensed bands.
- operated continuously from early Saturday until 8am Monday.
- designed with intent: mass exploitation, reconnaissance, exfiltration, eavesdropping.
Now How you can Judge that, You got Hacked in Defcon 19 Conference at Rao :
- did you accept an upgrade for Android, Java, or other applications?
- did you notice 3G/4G signal anomalies, including full signal yet poor bandwidth or no link?
- did you notice your Android at full charged plugged in, but dropping to <50% charge once unplugged?
- did you notice 4G download speeds at quarter of usual, yet uploads over twice as fast?
- did you notice Android services that immediately respawn when killed? (Voice Search?)
- does your Android no longer connect to USB debugging yet adbd is alive?
- does your PC have an sshd that cannot be kill -9'd?
- did your Android crash - a hard freeze, and then take a long time to reboot?
...many other indicators, but for now that's sufficient to express the point.
Coderman Claim that in fact Hackers probably didn't even notice as it pilfered bytes off your devices and monitored their conversations. At last he says "to those who got pwned, i would be interested in your experiences and binaries:
ID 9B65F087 , FP = 1029 E3E0 F22A C73D B2D6 468F 2798 76BB 9B65 F087
gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 9B65F087
gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 9B65F087
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 9B65F087".
12 August 2011 13:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
There is many bombs ticking i guess
besides the ones debated about
besides the ones debated about
12 August 2011 02:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
People always quick to make assumptions and judge someone and they never really been in that situation themselves
I'm just a spectator looking in
But I can tell you how I think things should've been
And all the reasons why the world is where it is today
Please listen to my words, what I have to say
You see in gaza they fighting for land
You see they need this land cause it's a part of their plan, understand
The jews needed a place after hitler
But they got about three quarters of palestinian land
Palestinians then had to make refuges
In places like lebanon
In places where none of them had ever gone
Thousands were massacred, for not leaving
See I would do the same kill me I'd die believing
I understand the mind of a man who commit suicide
But don't agree with any innocent that has to die
And what's gonna happen after this, will they stop with the gaza strip?
I don't think so
I sat with you to learn
You told me you where not meant to go to israel until the profit return
I said is this true, you told me go and read the torah
Cause if it's true then there following another order
How can a nation that knows what it's like to be slaughtered, go and do the same to someone else
(Its a simple question that they gotta sit down and ask themselves)
I'm just a spectator looking in
But I can tell you how I think things should've been
Couple reasons why the world is where it is today
Please listen to my words, what I have to say
[ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/l/logic/spectator.html ]
I don't know everything and never will I claim to know
What our purposes and what we really need to grow
But I do know we're dying for a common cause
A global world that is well known, war
I've been to africa and seen a grown man on the floor
Disabled to the point I couldn't look anymore
A real begger, in a real state of poverty
But he prays everyday, so he knows that there's gotta be another life
Where he can live as a strong man
And the ownership of africa doesn't end up in the wrong hands, western palms
Buying and destroying people just to trade arms
Does someone tell me why africa is still surviving
The whole land was a resource plus they got diamonds
Used to be able to run your hand through the sand
And get a handfull of diamonds do you understand
How precious is the land if it's like that
You see it's wrong to say it was taken by the white man
It was taken by the power hungry
And the people that never saw the beauty of africa fam, they only saw the money
To them it was the land of opportunity
It's terrorism when it's done by even you and me
Treat these words like my eulogy
And remember that I die be exactly what I chose to be
Inshalah we all can see
That god is the goodness in you and me
No religion has ownership
See the qur'an and the bible and the torah were wrote with ink
See I think the masses are miss-educated
See most of the politicians were born racist
See it's obvious that somehow we are all related
Millions of years back before we seperated
I heard tony benn say it in a speech
How can you murder another brother cause he's weak
I'm just a spectator looking in
But I can tell you how I think things should've been
And all the reasons why the world is where it is today
Please listen to my words, what I have to say
You see in gaza they fighting for land
You see they need this land cause it's a part of their plan, understand
The jews needed a place after hitler
But they got about three quarters of palestinian land
Palestinians then had to make refuges
In places like lebanon
In places where none of them had ever gone
Thousands were massacred, for not leaving
See I would do the same kill me I'd die believing
I understand the mind of a man who commit suicide
But don't agree with any innocent that has to die
And what's gonna happen after this, will they stop with the gaza strip?
I don't think so
I sat with you to learn
You told me you where not meant to go to israel until the profit return
I said is this true, you told me go and read the torah
Cause if it's true then there following another order
How can a nation that knows what it's like to be slaughtered, go and do the same to someone else
(Its a simple question that they gotta sit down and ask themselves)
I'm just a spectator looking in
But I can tell you how I think things should've been
Couple reasons why the world is where it is today
Please listen to my words, what I have to say
[ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/l/logic/spectator.html ]
I don't know everything and never will I claim to know
What our purposes and what we really need to grow
But I do know we're dying for a common cause
A global world that is well known, war
I've been to africa and seen a grown man on the floor
Disabled to the point I couldn't look anymore
A real begger, in a real state of poverty
But he prays everyday, so he knows that there's gotta be another life
Where he can live as a strong man
And the ownership of africa doesn't end up in the wrong hands, western palms
Buying and destroying people just to trade arms
Does someone tell me why africa is still surviving
The whole land was a resource plus they got diamonds
Used to be able to run your hand through the sand
And get a handfull of diamonds do you understand
How precious is the land if it's like that
You see it's wrong to say it was taken by the white man
It was taken by the power hungry
And the people that never saw the beauty of africa fam, they only saw the money
To them it was the land of opportunity
It's terrorism when it's done by even you and me
Treat these words like my eulogy
And remember that I die be exactly what I chose to be
Inshalah we all can see
That god is the goodness in you and me
No religion has ownership
See the qur'an and the bible and the torah were wrote with ink
See I think the masses are miss-educated
See most of the politicians were born racist
See it's obvious that somehow we are all related
Millions of years back before we seperated
I heard tony benn say it in a speech
How can you murder another brother cause he's weak
12 August 2011 01:54
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Vahest need pulbrid just need kõige õigemad asjad ongi :)
10 August 2011 16:38
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Kõik algab meist endist :)
10 August 2011 14:38
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Inimesed,
ega te nüüd ometigi pärieslt ju ei usu, et päriselt nii ongi? Kuid teate keelel on võime teha need asjad reaalseks mida enne ei olnud, kui vaid sellest just sedasi rääkida, et nii on.
millele kõigele inimesed ise kaasa aitavad selle asemel, et reaalselt rääkida kuidas sednad nyyd hakkavad parandama, seda mida arvavad olevat valesti
ega te nüüd ometigi pärieslt ju ei usu, et päriselt nii ongi? Kuid teate keelel on võime teha need asjad reaalseks mida enne ei olnud, kui vaid sellest just sedasi rääkida, et nii on.
millele kõigele inimesed ise kaasa aitavad selle asemel, et reaalselt rääkida kuidas sednad nyyd hakkavad parandama, seda mida arvavad olevat valesti
10 August 2011 14:30
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Kuskil keegi kunagi ütles, et igas probleemis on nii meeletu hulk potensiaali, et probleem haistub selle kõrval
hmm, kes see oligi?
hmm, kes see oligi?
10 August 2011 12:37
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
karm :D
vahest tundub küll nii,
kuid seni kuni nii tundub, seni nii ka on, tundja jaoks :)
vahest tundub küll nii,
kuid seni kuni nii tundub, seni nii ka on, tundja jaoks :)
10 August 2011 12:36
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Tegelt ei peaks mitte ühtegi asja traagiliselt võtma. Huvitav kui selliseid sõnu poleks loodud kas me siis endiselt nii... traagiliselt käituksime?
10 August 2011 12:12
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Kas see mitte partneri arusaamade viga ei või olla kui vähemalt selliseid omadusi teises kahepeale leida ei suuda?
Muidugi see "häid naisi" osa natuke pani mõtlema, et millised need mitte head naised on ja millised hääd un, mis mõttes?
Muidugi see "häid naisi" osa natuke pani mõtlema, et millised need mitte head naised on ja millised hääd un, mis mõttes?
10 August 2011 11:03
Margus Meigo commented on Jeroen Droog's post.
From http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlGL0RsQvaw to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15QW2lTAZmA
Some Watts time talks, for the ones who are interested :)
Some Watts time talks, for the ones who are interested :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlGL0RsQvaw
10 August 2011 01:06
Margus Meigo commented on Jeroen Droog's post.
Did you know that the "(wait) a minute" differs greatly depending what side of bathroom door one is
10 August 2011 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on Jeroen Droog's post.
my favorite is 13:33
10 August 2011 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster,
if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
One more good review about the song - this is best one i can find as of today. Will play around with my own feelings about it later
http://www.shmoop.com/mgmt-kids/meaning.html
* Only sick music makes money today
(or does going after money makes music sick?)
* Without music, life would be a mistake
* It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!
* The advantage of a bad memory is that one enjoys several times the same good things for the first time.
* The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently
* One has to pay dearly for immortality; one has to die several times while one is still alive”
Friedrich Nietzsche
--------
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mark_twain.html
* Age is an issue of mind over matter. If you don't mind, it doesn't matter
* As an example to others, and not that I care for moderation myself, it has always been my rule never to smoke when asleep, and never to refrain from smoking when awake.
* All generalizations are false, including this one
* Apparently there is nothing that cannot happen today.
* Be careless in your dress if you will, but keep a tidy soul
Mark Twain
After 100 years of waiting:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/after-keeping-us-waiting-for-a-century-mark-twain-will-finally-reveal-all-1980695.html
if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
One more good review about the song - this is best one i can find as of today. Will play around with my own feelings about it later
http://www.shmoop.com/mgmt-kids/meaning.html
* Only sick music makes money today
(or does going after money makes music sick?)
* Without music, life would be a mistake
* It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!
* The advantage of a bad memory is that one enjoys several times the same good things for the first time.
* The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently
* One has to pay dearly for immortality; one has to die several times while one is still alive”
Friedrich Nietzsche
--------
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mark_twain.html
* Age is an issue of mind over matter. If you don't mind, it doesn't matter
* As an example to others, and not that I care for moderation myself, it has always been my rule never to smoke when asleep, and never to refrain from smoking when awake.
* All generalizations are false, including this one
* Apparently there is nothing that cannot happen today.
* Be careless in your dress if you will, but keep a tidy soul
Mark Twain
After 100 years of waiting:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/after-keeping-us-waiting-for-a-century-mark-twain-will-finally-reveal-all-1980695.html
http://www.shmoop.com/mgmt-kids/meaning.html
9 August 2011 19:01
Margus Meigo commented on Alfa van Buuren's link.
This is just really really sad.
9 August 2011 18:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Fantastic :)
9 August 2011 18:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
How would you draw picture of your home with words so i can see what you feel?
9 August 2011 03:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
home with ourself
9 August 2011 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
one more,
MGMT - Congratulations
Dead in the water
It's not a paid vacation
The sons and daughters of city officials
Attend demonstrations
It's hardly a sink or swim
When all is well if the ticket sells
Out with a wimper
It's not a blaze of glory
You look down from your temple
As people endeavor to make it a story
And chisel a marble word
But all is lost if it's never heard
But I've got someone to make reports
That tell me how my money's spent
To book my stays and draw my blinds
So I can't see what's really there
And all I need's a great big congratulations
I'll keep your dreams
You pay attention for me
As strange as it seems
I'd rather dissolve than have you ignore me
The ground may be moving fast
But I tied my boots to a broken mast
The difference is clear
You throw it in your cauldron
Rust and veneer, dusk and dawn
Steinways and Baldwins
You start with a simple stock of all the waste
And salt to taste
But damn my luck and damn these friends
That keep on combing back their smiles
I save my grace with half-assed guilt
And lay down the quilt upon the lawn
Spread my arms and soak up congratulations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB7IAXrCkO8
http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=19197
http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858787426/#comment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB7IAXrCkO8
MGMT - Congratulations
Dead in the water
It's not a paid vacation
The sons and daughters of city officials
Attend demonstrations
It's hardly a sink or swim
When all is well if the ticket sells
Out with a wimper
It's not a blaze of glory
You look down from your temple
As people endeavor to make it a story
And chisel a marble word
But all is lost if it's never heard
But I've got someone to make reports
That tell me how my money's spent
To book my stays and draw my blinds
So I can't see what's really there
And all I need's a great big congratulations
I'll keep your dreams
You pay attention for me
As strange as it seems
I'd rather dissolve than have you ignore me
The ground may be moving fast
But I tied my boots to a broken mast
The difference is clear
You throw it in your cauldron
Rust and veneer, dusk and dawn
Steinways and Baldwins
You start with a simple stock of all the waste
And salt to taste
But damn my luck and damn these friends
That keep on combing back their smiles
I save my grace with half-assed guilt
And lay down the quilt upon the lawn
Spread my arms and soak up congratulations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB7IAXrCkO8
http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=19197
http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858787426/#comment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB7IAXrCkO8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB7IAXrCkO8
9 August 2011 02:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Dont miss to much or you will waste your time (as one cant enjoy Paris fully when missing home), but it's naturally hard to let go of attacements. It's allright :)
9 August 2011 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
worked out good?
9 August 2011 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ha for real? :))
9 August 2011 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I'm feeling rough, I'm feeling raw, I'm in the prime of my life
Let's make some music, make some money, find some models for wives
I'll move to Paris, shoot some heroin and fuck with the stars
You man the island and the cocaine and the elegant cars
This is our decision to live fast and die young
We've got the vision, now let's have some fun!
Yeah it's overwhelming, but what else can we do?
Get jobs in offices and wake up for the morning commute?
Forget about our mothers and our friends
We were fated to pretend
I'll miss the playgrounds and the animals and digging up worms
I'll miss the comfort of my mother and the weight of the world
I'll miss my sister, miss my father, miss my dog and my home
Yeah, I'll miss the boredom and the freedom and the time spent alone
But there is really nothing, nothing we can do
Love must be forgotten, life can always start up anew
The models will have children, we'll get a divorce
We'll find some more models, everything must run its course
We'll choke on our vomit and that will be the end
We were fated to pretend
MGMT - Time To Pretend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9dSYgd5Elk
http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=10470
http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/m/mgmt/time_to_pretend.html
http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858575598/#comment
http://www.lyricinterpretations.com/MGMT/Time-To-Pretend
Let's make some music, make some money, find some models for wives
I'll move to Paris, shoot some heroin and fuck with the stars
You man the island and the cocaine and the elegant cars
This is our decision to live fast and die young
We've got the vision, now let's have some fun!
Yeah it's overwhelming, but what else can we do?
Get jobs in offices and wake up for the morning commute?
Forget about our mothers and our friends
We were fated to pretend
I'll miss the playgrounds and the animals and digging up worms
I'll miss the comfort of my mother and the weight of the world
I'll miss my sister, miss my father, miss my dog and my home
Yeah, I'll miss the boredom and the freedom and the time spent alone
But there is really nothing, nothing we can do
Love must be forgotten, life can always start up anew
The models will have children, we'll get a divorce
We'll find some more models, everything must run its course
We'll choke on our vomit and that will be the end
We were fated to pretend
MGMT - Time To Pretend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9dSYgd5Elk
http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=10470
http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/m/mgmt/time_to_pretend.html
http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858575598/#comment
http://www.lyricinterpretations.com/MGMT/Time-To-Pretend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9dSYgd5Elk
9 August 2011 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
It can be easily :)
9 August 2011 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Cant recall anything besides hot weather by now
9 August 2011 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
But what about that...
http://enenews.com/solar-storms-threaten-nuke-plants-power-outages-could-last-years-decades-risk-significantly-outweighs-major-earthquakes
Are we not working on mayor backup plan for this ? Some manual controls to shut it down properly, to kill it if needed? Some real studies that show there is really no need for backup plans in global scale?
This backup also is good for the mind
http://enenews.com/solar-storms-threaten-nuke-plants-power-outages-could-last-years-decades-risk-significantly-outweighs-major-earthquakes
Are we not working on mayor backup plan for this ? Some manual controls to shut it down properly, to kill it if needed? Some real studies that show there is really no need for backup plans in global scale?
This backup also is good for the mind
http://enenews.com/solar-storms-threaten-nuke-plants-power-outages-could-last-years-decades-risk-significantly-outweighs-major-earthquakes
8 August 2011 21:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
[...] Chikako Ogami, a spokeswoman at the energy agency of the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry (METI) [...] said the agency had set aside funds in the nation’s disaster reconstruction budget for a project to monitor inaccurate online information that may lead to harmful rumours against residents of Fukushima. [...]
The controversy was triggered when METI’s Agency for Natural Resources and Energy earlier this month opened a call for bids for its so-called Nuclear Power Safety Regulation Publicity Project. [...]
Asatsu DK, a major Japanese advertising company, won the contract for 70 million yen ($897,000) which expires at the end of March 2012.
More about METI’s job requirements:
“To monitor blogs on nuclear power and radiation issues as well as Twitter accounts around the clock.”
To “conduct research and analysis on incorrect and inappropriate information that would lead to false rumours and to report such Internet accounts to the agency.”
To “publish correct information in question-and-answer format on the agency’s website and Twitter account, after consulting with experts and engineers if necessary.”
http://enenews.com/japan-govt-agency-funding-project-monitor-online-info-about-fukushima-crisis-around-clock-monitoring-blogs-nuclear-power-twitter-accounts/comment-page-1
The controversy was triggered when METI’s Agency for Natural Resources and Energy earlier this month opened a call for bids for its so-called Nuclear Power Safety Regulation Publicity Project. [...]
Asatsu DK, a major Japanese advertising company, won the contract for 70 million yen ($897,000) which expires at the end of March 2012.
More about METI’s job requirements:
“To monitor blogs on nuclear power and radiation issues as well as Twitter accounts around the clock.”
To “conduct research and analysis on incorrect and inappropriate information that would lead to false rumours and to report such Internet accounts to the agency.”
To “publish correct information in question-and-answer format on the agency’s website and Twitter account, after consulting with experts and engineers if necessary.”
http://enenews.com/japan-govt-agency-funding-project-monitor-online-info-about-fukushima-crisis-around-clock-monitoring-blogs-nuclear-power-twitter-accounts/comment-page-1
http://enenews.com/japan-govt-agency-funding-project-monitor-online-info-about-fukushima-crisis-around-clock-monitoring-blogs-nuclear-power-twitter-accounts
8 August 2011 21:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Sergey Pulinets: A Multi-Parameter Approach to Earthquake Forecasting
Basement, Forecasting, Cosmic Rays, In-Depth
Prof. Sergey Pulinets, researching earthquake precursors at the Institute of Applied Geophysics and the Moscow Center for Ionosphere Monitoring was interviewed by BueSo organizer Daniel Grasenack-Tente at the 2011 European Geosciences Conference this past week. Pulinets discusses the necessity of a multi-parameter approach to earthquake forecasting--from crust-related precursors, to the atmosphere, and the ionosphere.
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/17944
for the ones who are interested to go from there
Basement, Forecasting, Cosmic Rays, In-Depth
Prof. Sergey Pulinets, researching earthquake precursors at the Institute of Applied Geophysics and the Moscow Center for Ionosphere Monitoring was interviewed by BueSo organizer Daniel Grasenack-Tente at the 2011 European Geosciences Conference this past week. Pulinets discusses the necessity of a multi-parameter approach to earthquake forecasting--from crust-related precursors, to the atmosphere, and the ionosphere.
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/17944
for the ones who are interested to go from there
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/17944
8 August 2011 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
From minute 5-6 "survivers have no time for suecide". Reminds me George Carlin quote a bit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FfiyWsHz6k
Here is the main link, why i posted. Take look at discussion - and i mean comments, from where to where comments evolve on on article, amazing:
http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26773/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FfiyWsHz6k
Here is the main link, why i posted. Take look at discussion - and i mean comments, from where to where comments evolve on on article, amazing:
http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26773/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FfiyWsHz6k
8 August 2011 21:30
Margus Meigo commented on Tobias Anand Schneider's post.
It's amazing :)
8 August 2011 19:43
Margus Meigo commented on Facebook Security's link.
Can one imagine how much good in the world people like that can make. If we help them
8 August 2011 17:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Yes, there is many people alive who have been in communication with many great philosophers.
The work is rising from many corners, from many great minds around the world
I will share mine also with larger group of people, it's time :)
The work is rising from many corners, from many great minds around the world
I will share mine also with larger group of people, it's time :)
8 August 2011 16:36
Margus Meigo commented on Heidi Hanso's post.
Suitseta üks hea kvaliteediga hashi piip ära ja sa näed kuidas su ümber nüüd on esile toodud hoopis positiivne :)
8 August 2011 13:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
In late 1999, Erik Davis conducted what would be the last interview of McKenna. During the interview McKenna also talked about the announcement of his death
He began to suffer from increasingly painful headaches. This culminated in three brain seizures in one night, which he claimed were the most powerful psychedelic experiences he had ever known. (who have not, take look at hes DMT talks to understand remotely what that statement means)
Terence was diagnosed with glioblastoma multiforme, a highly aggressive form of brain cancer. For the next several months he underwent various treatments, including experimental gamma knife radiation treatment. According to Wired magazine, McKenna was worried that his tumour was caused by his 35-years of smoking cannabis; though his doctors assured him there was no causal relation.
Terence died on April 3, 2000, at the age of 53
Fire
On February 7, 2007, McKenna's library of rare books and personal notes was destroyed in a fire which burned offices belonging to Big Sur's Esalen Institute storing the collection. An index maintained by his brother Dennis survives, though little else.
Actually things that might have bigger value have bigger chance to pull happenings to them then usual
Old times they call it a curse, a witch craft,
---
So in here i would like to mention - make backups of your notes, work,deep scan your papers, copy them, store them in many places that are not connected with each other, share them with us - as much as possible.
If no one knows, no one knows it's no more.
It's time to come out, all of you from what ever side you say you say you are.
He began to suffer from increasingly painful headaches. This culminated in three brain seizures in one night, which he claimed were the most powerful psychedelic experiences he had ever known. (who have not, take look at hes DMT talks to understand remotely what that statement means)
Terence was diagnosed with glioblastoma multiforme, a highly aggressive form of brain cancer. For the next several months he underwent various treatments, including experimental gamma knife radiation treatment. According to Wired magazine, McKenna was worried that his tumour was caused by his 35-years of smoking cannabis; though his doctors assured him there was no causal relation.
Terence died on April 3, 2000, at the age of 53
Fire
On February 7, 2007, McKenna's library of rare books and personal notes was destroyed in a fire which burned offices belonging to Big Sur's Esalen Institute storing the collection. An index maintained by his brother Dennis survives, though little else.
Actually things that might have bigger value have bigger chance to pull happenings to them then usual
Old times they call it a curse, a witch craft,
---
So in here i would like to mention - make backups of your notes, work,deep scan your papers, copy them, store them in many places that are not connected with each other, share them with us - as much as possible.
If no one knows, no one knows it's no more.
It's time to come out, all of you from what ever side you say you say you are.
8 August 2011 13:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Trialogue #22: Psychedelics & Mathematical Vision (Terence McKenna, R. Sheldrake, R. Abraham)
Logos, Extending the mind, mind-electro-interacting..:)
1hr long
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS0KNeWDmc0
(from http://alchemicalarchives.blogspot.com/ )
Logos, Extending the mind, mind-electro-interacting..:)
1hr long
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS0KNeWDmc0
(from http://alchemicalarchives.blogspot.com/ )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS0KNeWDmc0
8 August 2011 03:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The original version had to much marketing in, the re-drawed version actually works ok :)
This is actually has some deeper message in it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7AWnfFRc7g
Not sure, if they mentioned there, that our emphaty decreased most, after we stop using sertain comination of sertain kind of plants/mushrooms
This is actually has some deeper message in it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7AWnfFRc7g
Not sure, if they mentioned there, that our emphaty decreased most, after we stop using sertain comination of sertain kind of plants/mushrooms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7AWnfFRc7g
28 July 2011 16:00
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Andersen's link.
& you know me, i like it.
is that freaky to?
next related song yt offers is U2, "With you or without you"
---
Police song is one of the greatest but sometimes we need some warm-ups one can send to friend day by day to really feel The Police, i will post some:
Rockwell - Somebody's Watching Me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY
is that freaky to?
next related song yt offers is U2, "With you or without you"
---
Police song is one of the greatest but sometimes we need some warm-ups one can send to friend day by day to really feel The Police, i will post some:
Rockwell - Somebody's Watching Me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY
27 July 2011 16:21
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Andersen's link.
I know, it's freaky honey,
it's freaky
it's freaky
27 July 2011 15:23
Margus Meigo commented on Rein Raud's link.
Arthur, one might be able to hope for first 10s with the force of 10g's but then the blood will leave with hope from needed organs besides other fatal damages. Even air-force legend John Stapp would skip this ride i guess.
This euthanasia coaster will help to explain many of our actions, desires, life, in Earth.
Life coaster actually keeps the potential in, to the end (as optimist say) but many lose the understanding and feeling how & where to ride with first 15-20 seconds. It's seems
This euthanasia coaster will help to explain many of our actions, desires, life, in Earth.
Life coaster actually keeps the potential in, to the end (as optimist say) but many lose the understanding and feeling how & where to ride with first 15-20 seconds. It's seems
27 July 2011 15:14
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Koitla's link.
Motiividest pole õrna aimugi kuid ega see ei takista ju arvamust avaldamast ja seisukohti võtmast
Kas ongi mõtet enam siin edasi komenteerida
Kas ongi mõtet enam siin edasi komenteerida
26 July 2011 20:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
It WILL be awesame!
26 July 2011 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Take look at Four Lions movie and then think again about Utøya
24 July 2011 11:29
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
& siia "like" kui tundus, et sealt midagi arusaada eriti ei ole.
Tegelt ka, honstly:)
Tegelt ka, honstly:)
22 July 2011 15:27
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Ning kes mu üleeelmise teksti jõudis läbi lugeda, pange like siia, lihtsalt - uuringu jaoks tarvis :)
22 July 2011 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Jällegi, lihtsalt üks teooria.
Seni kuni karta, et on mingi energia mida keegi sult varastab või välja imeb - well, maybe it can become truth, then. Kuid sama tõenäoline on, et asjad vastupidi toimuvad. Siin, silmaga nähtavad tulemused vähemalt mulle sellise mulje jätnud.
Seni kuni karta, et on mingi energia mida keegi sult varastab või välja imeb - well, maybe it can become truth, then. Kuid sama tõenäoline on, et asjad vastupidi toimuvad. Siin, silmaga nähtavad tulemused vähemalt mulle sellise mulje jätnud.
22 July 2011 15:20
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Kuid kui isiklikust vaatepunktist vaadata, siis esiteks ma ei liigitaks meid a, b, c jne.
Mõistan, et me võima olla üks, siin. Minu silmis, minu universumis/reaalsuses. Momendil. Ning minu tööriist on minu enda mõistmine. Et saaks teoreetiliselt mõista teist.
Isegi kui me tegelt peaksime olema erinevad liigid mis halogrammide (eg matrix) või bioloogiliste experimentidena arenenuma (meie endi või 'võõra') tsivilisatsiooni poolt istutatud siia munale mingi ülesande, karistuse, võimaluse, energia kogumise, lõbustuse, vahepeatuse või mis iganes põhjusel siia 'istutatud' või ymber programeerimisele saadetud (eg skientoloogia). Seni kuni mu enda arusaam on piisavalt paindlik, et ühtida kõigega mis mu teele tuuakse lähevad asjad sujuvamalt.
Isegi kui peaks tulema arusaam, et ma olen kõige jubedam ja negatiivsem, halvim 'mateeria'/'energia' kogum mis siia veel jäänud on, ja peale minu lahkumist läheb kõik paremaks või - ei muutu midagi, vi sõltub sellest kõik. Või tuleb sama arusaam inimese kohta keda aitama peaksid või, et ta on vampiir kes su teadvuse kogumiku tühjaks imeb ja seal muudatused teeks, et sa ise valele teele ekslema jääksid. Leppida tuleks ka sellega ja alluda kui vaja. Mitte karta.
Peaksin arvestama, et ma võin ka olla lihtsalt odav TV seriaal(eg hijacker guide to galaxy), kellegi varuka või juuksekarva otsas olevas aatomi universumis tühine osake, mis piisava juhuste kokkulangemise puhul võib liikuda peanahale lähemale enne kui sind kandev pudulojus või kes iganes, juuksorisse läheb. Võid olla arvuti programm või eksinud hing kes on siin, et õppida.
Ning paljut muud arvestades, saab alles ehk päriselt sellele mõtlema hakata, kas ja kuidas teisel mis abi vaja läheb.
Oluline on mulle, et arusaada ja aksepteerida mida iganes tema reaalsus kanal ka ei tooks või mida iganes ma ise ei genereeriks. Aksepteerida. Mõtiskleda, kas üldse on olemas - illusioone. Who are we to say what is not real.
Korralikult õnnestunud reisid annavad otseseid tulemusi mida ma tõlgendan edasi minekuna, kuid eks ta ole ka kindlasti libe jää kui arvata, et kindlalt teine on see kellel viga või teisel arusaamadest puudust. Või on on või ei ole - teist.
Inimestele meeldivad kohesed käega katsutavad ja silmaga nähtavad tulemused mida nad hinges tunnevad, mis ei pane neid mõtlema mõtteid "ei oleks vahet kui mul seda ei oleks olnud" vms.
Keerulisi teoorjaid, filosoofiaid ja uskumusi on hexabaitide kaupa mida veel omavahel annab põimida päris paljudes varjantides - seega ei saa ma ka 'minu juurde tulnule' öelda, et tal on see või see viga. Kui ma just ei arva, et endaga räägin ning teen seda lõbustusest või enda analüüsiks.
Kuid see kõik ei kanna mingit rohkemat kui ilukirjandusliku väärtust enne reise. Ning ka peale seda, võib see kõik olla lihtsalt üks väike ebaoluline fail. Mille keskel ma olen, pidades seda enda universumiks millegiks oluliseks, millegiks ebaoluliseks.
Nagu ka esimest orgasmi on raske kirjeldada inimesele kes pole seksinud siis ei saa me ka kunagi kindlad olla, et meie kirjeldusest teistest võimalustest adekvaatselt kohale jõuavad ning kõik see jutt, on vb suht ajaraisk, kui võtta seisukoht.
Mõistan, et me võima olla üks, siin. Minu silmis, minu universumis/reaalsuses. Momendil. Ning minu tööriist on minu enda mõistmine. Et saaks teoreetiliselt mõista teist.
Isegi kui me tegelt peaksime olema erinevad liigid mis halogrammide (eg matrix) või bioloogiliste experimentidena arenenuma (meie endi või 'võõra') tsivilisatsiooni poolt istutatud siia munale mingi ülesande, karistuse, võimaluse, energia kogumise, lõbustuse, vahepeatuse või mis iganes põhjusel siia 'istutatud' või ymber programeerimisele saadetud (eg skientoloogia). Seni kuni mu enda arusaam on piisavalt paindlik, et ühtida kõigega mis mu teele tuuakse lähevad asjad sujuvamalt.
Isegi kui peaks tulema arusaam, et ma olen kõige jubedam ja negatiivsem, halvim 'mateeria'/'energia' kogum mis siia veel jäänud on, ja peale minu lahkumist läheb kõik paremaks või - ei muutu midagi, vi sõltub sellest kõik. Või tuleb sama arusaam inimese kohta keda aitama peaksid või, et ta on vampiir kes su teadvuse kogumiku tühjaks imeb ja seal muudatused teeks, et sa ise valele teele ekslema jääksid. Leppida tuleks ka sellega ja alluda kui vaja. Mitte karta.
Peaksin arvestama, et ma võin ka olla lihtsalt odav TV seriaal(eg hijacker guide to galaxy), kellegi varuka või juuksekarva otsas olevas aatomi universumis tühine osake, mis piisava juhuste kokkulangemise puhul võib liikuda peanahale lähemale enne kui sind kandev pudulojus või kes iganes, juuksorisse läheb. Võid olla arvuti programm või eksinud hing kes on siin, et õppida.
Ning paljut muud arvestades, saab alles ehk päriselt sellele mõtlema hakata, kas ja kuidas teisel mis abi vaja läheb.
Oluline on mulle, et arusaada ja aksepteerida mida iganes tema reaalsus kanal ka ei tooks või mida iganes ma ise ei genereeriks. Aksepteerida. Mõtiskleda, kas üldse on olemas - illusioone. Who are we to say what is not real.
Korralikult õnnestunud reisid annavad otseseid tulemusi mida ma tõlgendan edasi minekuna, kuid eks ta ole ka kindlasti libe jää kui arvata, et kindlalt teine on see kellel viga või teisel arusaamadest puudust. Või on on või ei ole - teist.
Inimestele meeldivad kohesed käega katsutavad ja silmaga nähtavad tulemused mida nad hinges tunnevad, mis ei pane neid mõtlema mõtteid "ei oleks vahet kui mul seda ei oleks olnud" vms.
Keerulisi teoorjaid, filosoofiaid ja uskumusi on hexabaitide kaupa mida veel omavahel annab põimida päris paljudes varjantides - seega ei saa ma ka 'minu juurde tulnule' öelda, et tal on see või see viga. Kui ma just ei arva, et endaga räägin ning teen seda lõbustusest või enda analüüsiks.
Kuid see kõik ei kanna mingit rohkemat kui ilukirjandusliku väärtust enne reise. Ning ka peale seda, võib see kõik olla lihtsalt üks väike ebaoluline fail. Mille keskel ma olen, pidades seda enda universumiks millegiks oluliseks, millegiks ebaoluliseks.
Nagu ka esimest orgasmi on raske kirjeldada inimesele kes pole seksinud siis ei saa me ka kunagi kindlad olla, et meie kirjeldusest teistest võimalustest adekvaatselt kohale jõuavad ning kõik see jutt, on vb suht ajaraisk, kui võtta seisukoht.
22 July 2011 15:16
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
KOluline on muidugi ka vaadata just seda, miks mina teda sellisena tõlgendan nagu need a,b,c varjandid siin ette toodud olid.
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Hiljem, Kui aga inimene juba palju kordi mu juurde tagasi tuleb illusioonis, et tal on mind vaja, siis peaks oma 'taktika' ümber mõtlema. Ümber mõtestama temast arusaamise oskuse ja enda akekvaatsuse selle inimese elu juhendamisel. Mitte alla andma ja mitte jätkama
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Hiljem, Kui aga inimene juba palju kordi mu juurde tagasi tuleb illusioonis, et tal on mind vaja, siis peaks oma 'taktika' ümber mõtlema. Ümber mõtestama temast arusaamise oskuse ja enda akekvaatsuse selle inimese elu juhendamisel. Mitte alla andma ja mitte jätkama
22 July 2011 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Teeksin psühedeelse reisi talle välja, alguses saades emotsioonid ja armastus kanalid mdma'ga või meskaliiniga lahti, et hirme reisile kaasa ei tooks.
Siis toimiks sealt edasi vastavalt reisile, kuulaks, õpiks.
Siis toimiks sealt edasi vastavalt reisile, kuulaks, õpiks.
22 July 2011 14:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
As with guns, many tools can also backfire
22 July 2011 04:12
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
If you are really not gay then remove the
".(by the way I'm not really gay) " from the end of the sentence
".(by the way I'm not really gay) " from the end of the sentence
22 July 2011 02:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Empathy - one of the greatest tools for For marketers, organizations.. etc :)
22 July 2011 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Knowing the word .. meaning can change sometimes the word meaning, or at least what one thinks when used
"Ability to imagine oneself in another's place and understand the other's feelings, desires, ideas, and actions."
"To predict people's behaviour by using faculty of empathy.
Among all means of understanding someone's psyche, empathic identification is one of the cheif tool."
Is this a great tool for so many things or what
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Empathic
http://www.answers.com/topic/empathy
Connecting the Dot's have i think no video about it jet.
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But really. This is so far one of the best videos.
Great drawing's and style as well.
"Ability to imagine oneself in another's place and understand the other's feelings, desires, ideas, and actions."
"To predict people's behaviour by using faculty of empathy.
Among all means of understanding someone's psyche, empathic identification is one of the cheif tool."
Is this a great tool for so many things or what
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Empathic
http://www.answers.com/topic/empathy
Connecting the Dot's have i think no video about it jet.
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But really. This is so far one of the best videos.
Great drawing's and style as well.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Empathic
22 July 2011 01:56
Margus Meigo commented on Lilitu Babalon's post.
out from where you ome to idea to look DieHard4 specially when you healing?
21 July 2011 16:05
Margus Meigo commented on Marika Tiru's photo.
This is the way to reshape the education, to make people think with in current time, many kids even have not seen a forest in these days :)
21 July 2011 15:15
Margus Meigo commented on Zaza Tsereteli's link.
This happens when Portugal drug tactics http://www.huffingtonpost.com/danna-harman/when-heroin-was-king-ten-_b_897474.html are understood poorly and implemented by people who have little idea what drugs are. How all of these subsample ended up under one label?
Most people who have opinion about the drugs even can not see the huge differences between opioid(s) & amphetamine(s) compared with psychedelics and their users.
Well, it's okey by me, let them be. But when people with poor understanding about the problem, solutions and issue will start to enforce law's that change other people lives -
Most people who have opinion about the drugs even can not see the huge differences between opioid(s) & amphetamine(s) compared with psychedelics and their users.
Well, it's okey by me, let them be. But when people with poor understanding about the problem, solutions and issue will start to enforce law's that change other people lives -
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/danna-harman/when-heroin-was-king-ten-_b_897474.html
21 July 2011 14:57
Margus Meigo commented on RSA's link.
We should inject some life in to the gatekeeper tools - right now is perfect, best time for it. From now we can predict what will happen if we do it one or other way - and we do not need for this any 'complicated' algorytm or Like button.
Once one sayd
"Only thing we have learn from history that we have not learned from history" - i would add here 'fast enought' and 'now we will try'
Once one sayd
"Only thing we have learn from history that we have not learned from history" - i would add here 'fast enought' and 'now we will try'
21 July 2011 14:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
... to understand (more) what new generation is talking about
21 July 2011 03:30
Margus Meigo commented on Laura Copenhagen's photo.
encounter
21 July 2011 03:15
Margus Meigo commented on Laura Copenhagen's photo.
So it's a conflict on the border of nature and human world
21 July 2011 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on Laura Copenhagen's photo.
Are they really attacking like that by now. How did we come so far, or was we to far to see it before?
21 July 2011 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
or "We are really just part of the material on which a well has begun to think" :)
21 July 2011 00:28
Margus Meigo commented on Jean-Pierre Bonnerot's link.
Some links on the page are dead thought :)
can fix it up if needed, let me know
can fix it up if needed, let me know
20 July 2011 16:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Will you be there?
20 July 2011 16:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
An important element of the project will be to implement the priorities fixed the Youth in Action: European citizenship, involving young people with fewer opportunities, cultural diversity. ”Nice Poland - Cool Estonia” is the brainchild of a group of young people who want to change from time to time his monotonous life. The project will participate 45 young people from Polish and
Estonian. :)
Estonian. :)
20 July 2011 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on Sergio Storchi's post.
Soojad tervitused ka Sulle Sergio !
20 July 2011 01:04
Margus Meigo commented on Peter Bjorn and John's link.
Makes me smile to see that bands with message like your's will make it to the chars,
if people keep rating bands that matter then soon we end up in times where we can turn MTV back on.
... and we will see - the sleep was Good,
if people keep rating bands that matter then soon we end up in times where we can turn MTV back on.
... and we will see - the sleep was Good,
19 July 2011 14:08
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
paar kiiret küsimust eelmise paari postituse peale Peeter
Kes on Sinu õpetaja? Ja mida nende põhjal võib õelda nende õpilaste kohta kellel nemad õpetajaks?
Kui ei ole otsest õpetajat siis kes/kuidas/kelle õpetused kõige enam aidanud/mõjutanud on?
Mida võiksid õelda selle õpilase "mina" kohta kes ütleb: "Minu õpetaja on Peeter Liiv"
Kes on Sinu õpetaja? Ja mida nende põhjal võib õelda nende õpilaste kohta kellel nemad õpetajaks?
Kui ei ole otsest õpetajat siis kes/kuidas/kelle õpetused kõige enam aidanud/mõjutanud on?
Mida võiksid õelda selle õpilase "mina" kohta kes ütleb: "Minu õpetaja on Peeter Liiv"
18 July 2011 15:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
One ticket more to share, üks pilet veel üle, liituge :)
16 July 2011 20:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"In retrospection Noé compared Irréversible to a bank robbery made in order to finance Enter the Void, while it also served as a helpful technical exercise."
There was a 100-page screenplay which detailed plot developments and many of the visual traits, but very little dialogue was scripted, so the actors were asked to improvise their lines
Since much of the film was set in neighbourhoods known for gambling and prostitution, it was necessary to make agreements with the Yakuza before filming some of the on-location scenes, although there was no involvement of criminal organisations in the actual production
Noé had tried various hallucinogens in his youth and used those experiences as inspiration for the visual style. One particular drug experience came later, when the director already was planning the film, and traveled to the Peruvian jungle to try Ayahuasca where it is legal.
The experience was very intense and Noé regarded it "almost like professional research"
There was a 100-page screenplay which detailed plot developments and many of the visual traits, but very little dialogue was scripted, so the actors were asked to improvise their lines
Since much of the film was set in neighbourhoods known for gambling and prostitution, it was necessary to make agreements with the Yakuza before filming some of the on-location scenes, although there was no involvement of criminal organisations in the actual production
Noé had tried various hallucinogens in his youth and used those experiences as inspiration for the visual style. One particular drug experience came later, when the director already was planning the film, and traveled to the Peruvian jungle to try Ayahuasca where it is legal.
The experience was very intense and Noé regarded it "almost like professional research"
16 July 2011 20:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
& don't get me wrong, it's not so over that nothing can be done.
It can and can not
It can and can not
16 July 2011 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on Erki Arusoo's post.
proovi mobiili reziim valida ikka järgmine kord või käsipesu :)
15 July 2011 18:58
Margus Meigo commented on Erki Arusoo's post.
Kas panid sentrifuugi liiga kõvaks või kasutasid valet pesupulbrit ?
15 July 2011 18:56
Margus Meigo commented on Erki Arusoo's post.
see on see pidupanemine
15 July 2011 18:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1341167/ "Four incompetent British jihadists set out to train for and commit an act of terror." & http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1191111/ psychedelic melodrama/thriller, read about it more from: http://www.ifcfilms.com/films/enter-the-void
It's not just a movie :)
It's not just a movie :)
15 July 2011 16:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(hoitke ennast ainult 10nda laulu eest playlistis. I have no idea how the 10th song in the YT playlist i posted can be "Deftones Engine No. 9" - things like that are to common in playlists that are online. Skip the last song unless u like defmetal )
14 July 2011 16:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Please put Chastity's books and magazines away
'Cause they don't move me no more
They don't move me no more
Put them all away
Forget photos and letters
All the people that matter
They don't move me no more
You don't move me no more
And you're no longer mine
It's suprising how rapidly
We were changing from you and me
No matter how you count, oh no
It will go to show
When history is done
And everything is over
Just to keep us warm
It's slowly getting colder
There's nothing to explain
It's hard to stay the same
History is done
And everything is gone
Early morning, and late night
Going over the same fight
Don't move me no more
You don't move me no more
And I don't even mind
All these things I keep
Without caring too deep
Gonna put it to sleep
I can run much faster
When nothing wears me down
He can change what it's been before
It's erased and you can't restore
Let the screen stay black, go go
I don't want it back
When history is done
And everything is over
Just to keep us warm
It's slowly getting colder
There's nothing to explain
It's hard to stay the same
History is done
And everything is gone
Everything is gone
Everything is gone
Everything is gone
Everything is gone
'Cause they don't move me no more
They don't move me no more
Put them all away
Forget photos and letters
All the people that matter
They don't move me no more
You don't move me no more
And you're no longer mine
It's suprising how rapidly
We were changing from you and me
No matter how you count, oh no
It will go to show
When history is done
And everything is over
Just to keep us warm
It's slowly getting colder
There's nothing to explain
It's hard to stay the same
History is done
And everything is gone
Early morning, and late night
Going over the same fight
Don't move me no more
You don't move me no more
And I don't even mind
All these things I keep
Without caring too deep
Gonna put it to sleep
I can run much faster
When nothing wears me down
He can change what it's been before
It's erased and you can't restore
Let the screen stay black, go go
I don't want it back
When history is done
And everything is over
Just to keep us warm
It's slowly getting colder
There's nothing to explain
It's hard to stay the same
History is done
And everything is gone
Everything is gone
Everything is gone
Everything is gone
Everything is gone
14 July 2011 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
So what do you see?
12 July 2011 11:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
the Margus & mushroom parts can be applied but are not needed :)
12 July 2011 11:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
This is good start
11 July 2011 16:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
What do you see?
11 July 2011 15:53
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Kas ohtu ei ole, et kui kõige olulisema ülesandena võetakse sihiks õpetaja piiride ja raamide tundmine, siis võib vahelt jupp puudu jääda?
Või see pigem induvidiaalne?
Või see pigem induvidiaalne?
7 July 2011 02:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqinthenews/2011/usc0004pbm/
http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/marine-threat-nz-after-7-6-quake-4289781
http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/marine-threat-nz-after-7-6-quake-4289781
7 July 2011 02:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
PS: About other upcoming youth exchanges and international or local courses email: seiklejate.vennaskond@gmail.com Heleri
7 July 2011 00:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Food & accommodation is paid for 100%, airline cost 70% as usually.
4 July 2011 17:08
Margus Meigo commented on Gary Ayan's post.
Group: HTHC (High Tech Hippie Crew)
Terviseks :)1 July 2011 00:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kas me mitte ei ole osa etendusest?
30 June 2011 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Vaat kui igav kui kogu näidendit ette teaks
30 June 2011 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
saa üle juba :P
30 June 2011 00:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuid pane minu ja Kadri poolt kaks kohta kindlat kirja.
30 June 2011 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tulen mina ja naine ja vb tuleb Oll ka, vaatab homme.
Sassis on meil aint peas asjad, tegelt on kõik korras :)
Sassis on meil aint peas asjad, tegelt on kõik korras :)
30 June 2011 00:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
jõuame*
30 June 2011 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ei viitsi midagi kanda, kannan sulerahas kui kohale jõuan :)
30 June 2011 00:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Arvan küll :)
30 June 2011 00:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
There is some good one's on this site, take a look, specially tec people :)
29 June 2011 19:41
Margus Meigo commented on Daya D'Sa's post.
Group: Insightful Knowledge
Is there online/video version also about this workshop available? :)28 June 2011 18:42
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
On, ei ole, & on ning ei ole
Võibolla tuleks kahelda selles, kas ainult on ei ole :)
Võibolla tuleks kahelda selles, kas ainult on ei ole :)
28 June 2011 10:57
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Mis juhtub kui kahelda selles mida pole?
28 June 2011 10:42
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Tarmo, millises endas? :)
28 June 2011 10:39
Margus Meigo commented on João Mirage's link.
if you remember, then let me know once you have eng subtitles in yt or somewhere
Thanks :)
Thanks :)
28 June 2011 10:26
Margus Meigo commented on João Mirage's link.
I usually block all the spammers, so let's no do it again. I have personal issues with spam :p
28 June 2011 10:07
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Kuid samas, mine tea - vb pole seda kõike Sul enam vaja, fb postitused on just.. enetertaiment või boredom :)
28 June 2011 10:04
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Tollele lisaks tuleb vb kasuks kui originaale lugeda või kuulata.. või siis neid kes originaale natukene selgemalt ja otsemalt tõlgendada oskavad omades laiemat silmaringi erinevate usundite ja filosoofiate osas. Alan Watts näiteks tundub üks parimaid valikud olema ing keeles (väga erinevatel teemadel) ja Anthony de Mello'l on ka paar päris head loengu sarja isegi yt's olemas.
:)
:)
28 June 2011 10:01
Margus Meigo commented on João Mirage's link.
First would be nice to ask before you post
For seccond - do you have eng subtitles for the video also?
For seccond - do you have eng subtitles for the video also?
27 June 2011 11:25
Margus Meigo commented on Tobias Anand Schneider's post.
Is network growing well?
24 June 2011 19:40
Margus Meigo commented on Tobias Anand Schneider's post.
It's getting more and more clear daily, my friend :)
24 June 2011 19:40
Margus Meigo commented on Tobias Anand Schneider's post.
Thank You Tobias ! :))
I just arrived from country side, from the fire.
I just arrived from country side, from the fire.
24 June 2011 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
WoMan*
Have you wondered also, how it ended up to be wo-man and man as a male?
And what ever happened with wimman and wifman?
language, genesis 2:22..
Have you wondered also, how it ended up to be wo-man and man as a male?
And what ever happened with wimman and wifman?
language, genesis 2:22..
23 June 2011 14:52
Margus Meigo commented on Maddox Rules's post.
I go for the napkin
23 June 2011 03:57
Margus Meigo commented on Maddox Rules's post.
arent we all at same time on ones eye at some point of time
23 June 2011 03:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
out of simple form, like one can carry their facebook with them, on USB.
Afer all, it's ones BOOK
that has ones face on it.
and life, sometimes it seems
Afer all, it's ones BOOK
that has ones face on it.
and life, sometimes it seems
23 June 2011 02:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
usefull feature, perhaps it supports in future restore of account also ?
23 June 2011 02:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Yeah i did it once before i think
23 June 2011 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Pink
23 June 2011 02:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i need one of these also in my language besides: irw
23 June 2011 01:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Why it seems, like i am a stamp?
Or is this just my picture, in every wall
Or is this just my picture, in every wall
23 June 2011 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See 'nice' oli cover sõna, et lause nunnu tunduks :)
23 June 2011 01:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Emm et ei ole raske
23 June 2011 01:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
It's night ower here, but it's no better then day :)
23 June 2011 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ei ole :D
23 June 2011 01:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Thank You Terri :)
How, You liked most?
How, You liked most?
23 June 2011 01:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You know, it's like many of these movies, where one just like ... just realises how nice everything is :)
23 June 2011 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
so do we need to creat or do we need just to help, to cre.. to make, something new?
23 June 2011 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
like this spelling, sometimes
xD
xD
23 June 2011 00:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Also the understanding about one's self, how one lives and interpets things if they are not understood
23 June 2011 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Was anyone else also first pretty pessimistic about twitter and later when one understood how it really worked, everything, almoust related to twitter changed?
23 June 2011 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on J-tin Hunks Aq's post.
Not excused! :)
22 June 2011 15:15
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
kas nad kõik mõtlevad iseendast või sellest kuidas iseennast teiste jaoks meeldivamaks muuta?
8 June 2011 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on Julian Walkowiak's post.
Group: Charlemagne Youth Prize Winners 2011
Singed the petition http://www.petitiononline.com/rfyr/petition.html :)
See You in Estonia!8 June 2011 09:07
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
kumb on ohtlikum, kas muretseda selle pärast, mida teised mõtlevad minust või see mida mina kõikidest teistest mõtlen?
8 June 2011 08:50
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
... kudi see protsess sinna peaks olema enamasti teadmata ja ilma sihtkohata. Sihtkoht ise on vähem olulisem kui protsess, sest viimane on kestev ja
8 June 2011 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Kui kellegi prototüübile valmistatakse üksikuid sobivaid exemplaare (kellel iganes selline hallutsionatsioon on) siis mulle tundub, et see kes ennast tunneb vähemuses olevat, peaks olulistele uuendustele või downgradedele mõtlema. Parimad tihti saavad exlusiivseks mitte ei ole exlusiivsed
8 June 2011 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on Sepp Hasslberger's link.
We need to work on our acceptance of telepathy skills
(at least this activity have some meditative properties if nothing more, cant hurt, helps also with paranoias)
(at least this activity have some meditative properties if nothing more, cant hurt, helps also with paranoias)
7 June 2011 23:53
Margus Meigo commented on Sepp Hasslberger's link.
This why microsoft acquired Skype as cells as now used, will be banned soon :P
joke joke but for real - i would not be surprised at least.
Maybe someday in far away now, there will be some new interesting talks going around in webs what for chellphones Really are made/used for...
besides ripping off people with SMS (world most expensive data transmission)
joke joke but for real - i would not be surprised at least.
Maybe someday in far away now, there will be some new interesting talks going around in webs what for chellphones Really are made/used for...
besides ripping off people with SMS (world most expensive data transmission)
7 June 2011 23:51
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
i mean what in a world these people write down there http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/post/6114881305/looking-at-a-beanie-hat ... like possibly? I would like to see this notebooks in the end of day.
7 June 2011 23:41
Margus Meigo commented on Teet Korsten's photo.
peaasi, et külma ei saa, teisel õlmad puha eest lahti..
7 June 2011 17:17
Margus Meigo commented on Eline Bötger's photo.
Is that France?
7 June 2011 12:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGzk_z7qEqg - pre meeting promo video : )
7 June 2011 11:04
Margus Meigo commented on Eline Bötger's photo.
, Sir ;-)
7 June 2011 10:59
Margus Meigo commented on Eline Bötger's photo.
You'r excused!
7 June 2011 10:24
Margus Meigo commented on Eline Bötger's photo.
(so there would be one public place where everyone related to project can show to the world how connected and thrilled about Karl the Big we are:)
7 June 2011 10:22
Margus Meigo commented on Eline Bötger's photo.
Where is your manners Sir! Sit quiet and dont ask, cant you see there is ceremony going on!
7 June 2011 10:20
Margus Meigo commented on Eline Bötger's photo.
I know it sounds totally un-human behaviour but some people i heard even do not have facebook accounts. I have not seen any proof of this phenomena but i also have not seen many other proofs - i just experience, as far i know
7 June 2011 09:04
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
Good find :)
7 June 2011 08:50
Margus Meigo commented on Evdokiya Razlozhka's post.
Group: Charlemagne Youth Prize Winners 2011
second to that - share all the picture album links in here :)6 June 2011 17:12
Margus Meigo commented on Sepp Hasslberger's link.
I got so sick in Germany few days ago - but luckily it was not e.coli +
all other visitors i asked from got hard headache with in same period of time. Mystic place this germany
all other visitors i asked from got hard headache with in same period of time. Mystic place this germany
6 June 2011 15:03
Margus Meigo commented on Adela Demetja's post.
Group: Charlemagne Youth Prize
Really good video editing, & artistic work besides all the other work :)6 June 2011 14:27
Margus Meigo commented on Adela Demetja's link.
Really good video editing, & artistic work besides all the other work :)
6 June 2011 14:27
Margus Meigo commented on Eline Bötger's photo.
Oh, i just now noticed - in the one who is on the stage
I must put something more colourful on next time, formal is so 20'th century u know :D
I must put something more colourful on next time, formal is so 20'th century u know :D
6 June 2011 13:00
Margus Meigo commented on Eline Bötger's album.
Greetings to all :))
6 June 2011 12:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
An there will be second part's of it - after
30 May 2011 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on J-tin Hunks Aq's post.
Did ya contact the people jet who's contact i send? If not, do it soon as you have time, they will give you some more exact instructions : )
29 May 2011 23:12
Margus Meigo commented on J-tin Hunks Aq's post.
world*
29 May 2011 10:31
Margus Meigo commented on J-tin Hunks Aq's post.
..with Word :)
29 May 2011 10:31
Margus Meigo commented on J-tin Hunks Aq's post.
You Can, just Let's Do it! :)
29 May 2011 10:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Location: http://www.kamp-alpe.com/en/Home
"The multilateral youth exchange “e-Nature” is a project within the Youth in Action program which promotes
healthy lifestyle and living in nature which is changing every day. Through the ecology we will try to connect past
with present and future as well and local and global aspects, which goes hand in hand with man and nature-friendly and healthy lifestyle. The main purpose is to spread awareness about environmental concerns while personally making an impact. Many of the items regular people use every day can be improved to be reusable and reduce waste."
"The nice summer weather will be used as an opportunity to bike short distances, rather than taking the car. Trips to the town and other surrounding places will be part of activities.
We will include many experts in the project, which will prepare workshops, lectures and tips to teach the next
generation about sustainability and green living.
By the end of project and after, participants will present their awareness on most innovative way they can provide.
Perhaps the best way to spread awareness is to take advantage of all the social networking sites which are so
prevalent today. Through mediums as simple as a Facebook status, hundreds of people can take note of what others are doing and be inspired to participate as well in future projects."
"The multilateral youth exchange “e-Nature” is a project within the Youth in Action program which promotes
healthy lifestyle and living in nature which is changing every day. Through the ecology we will try to connect past
with present and future as well and local and global aspects, which goes hand in hand with man and nature-friendly and healthy lifestyle. The main purpose is to spread awareness about environmental concerns while personally making an impact. Many of the items regular people use every day can be improved to be reusable and reduce waste."
"The nice summer weather will be used as an opportunity to bike short distances, rather than taking the car. Trips to the town and other surrounding places will be part of activities.
We will include many experts in the project, which will prepare workshops, lectures and tips to teach the next
generation about sustainability and green living.
By the end of project and after, participants will present their awareness on most innovative way they can provide.
Perhaps the best way to spread awareness is to take advantage of all the social networking sites which are so
prevalent today. Through mediums as simple as a Facebook status, hundreds of people can take note of what others are doing and be inspired to participate as well in future projects."
26 May 2011 06:43
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Koitla's link.
Ehk on küsimus pigem selles mida ja kuidas usutakase ja mis moodi kes aru saab sellest mida usutakse. Filosoofia filosoofiaks.
Siin ei ole vajadust midagi tõestada.
Üks võib kogu selle hetke uskuda ja arvata, et Teab mida usub kuid see on ainult inimese isiklik arvamus sellest mida ta usub, seni kuni ta ainult usub. Seda võib ka muidugi nimetada teadmiseks kuid kui palju teadmisi läheb ühel vaja, et kogeda seda mis tuleb peale teadmist?
Minule, Usu kõige tähtsam osa ei ole mitte uskumine vaid Kogemus & kuidas selles Kogemuses liigud Sina kallis Veiko ja mina koos kõikide teistega, kelle kõige suuremad erinevused mida me kardame avastame peagi meis endis, kui julgeme sügavamale vaadata ja mitte ainult ühe suunaliselt.
Seda kui paljud seda päriselt teha soovivad ma ei tea, äkki Sul teoloogia tunnis selle kohta mõni hea vastus tulnud ?
Siin ei ole vajadust midagi tõestada.
Üks võib kogu selle hetke uskuda ja arvata, et Teab mida usub kuid see on ainult inimese isiklik arvamus sellest mida ta usub, seni kuni ta ainult usub. Seda võib ka muidugi nimetada teadmiseks kuid kui palju teadmisi läheb ühel vaja, et kogeda seda mis tuleb peale teadmist?
Minule, Usu kõige tähtsam osa ei ole mitte uskumine vaid Kogemus & kuidas selles Kogemuses liigud Sina kallis Veiko ja mina koos kõikide teistega, kelle kõige suuremad erinevused mida me kardame avastame peagi meis endis, kui julgeme sügavamale vaadata ja mitte ainult ühe suunaliselt.
Seda kui paljud seda päriselt teha soovivad ma ei tea, äkki Sul teoloogia tunnis selle kohta mõni hea vastus tulnud ?
24 May 2011 19:55
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Koitla's link.
Kindlasti ei olnud asi ainult selles.
Huvitav milliseid Kristlike õpetusi osad kust saavad... Kas seal inspektsiooni ja kvaliteedi kontrolli ei tehtagi selles osas kui sügavalt päriselt sellest aru saadakse mida uskuja ennast teab uskuvat.
Uskumisest on vähe abi - teadma, aru saama peab milles enne seda lugu seisnes kui see looks sai.
Huvitav milliseid Kristlike õpetusi osad kust saavad... Kas seal inspektsiooni ja kvaliteedi kontrolli ei tehtagi selles osas kui sügavalt päriselt sellest aru saadakse mida uskuja ennast teab uskuvat.
Uskumisest on vähe abi - teadma, aru saama peab milles enne seda lugu seisnes kui see looks sai.
24 May 2011 16:54
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Koitla's link.
Homode värk on ka jah, täitsa nõustun - üle käte läinud kohe. Osad inimesed muud ei tee kui postitavad homo teemasi päevast päeva facebooki. Mõned eriti suured aktivistid veel mitukorda päevas olen kuulnud.
Sest ega keegi neid artikleid ju ei prindiks kui inimesed neid ei käiks lugemas ja neid massiliselt facebookis ei jagaks, et rohkem klikke tekitada ja anda neile vähestele kes tänavale läksid see mida saavutada prooviti - meedia kajastust läbi nende keda nad kõige enam häirivad.
Iga artikli küljes on ju statiskika jubin mis näitab kui palju huvi mingi artikel tekitas ja mida rohkem tekitas seda rohkem reklaami raha + nendele hoogu kellest artikle kirjutati. Tean ise ka mitut homot nii mees kui naissoost ja nendest keedi ei tunne kedagi kes tänavale ringi jooksma sildid käes tahaks minna - seega tekib lausa küsimus, kelle jaoks nad seal on.
Vist ei pea rohkem lahti seletama seda lihtsalt arusaadavat teemat seega suundume tagasi otsingutele - kes on nö tolerastide täieõiguslikud välimäärajad :)
Sest ega keegi neid artikleid ju ei prindiks kui inimesed neid ei käiks lugemas ja neid massiliselt facebookis ei jagaks, et rohkem klikke tekitada ja anda neile vähestele kes tänavale läksid see mida saavutada prooviti - meedia kajastust läbi nende keda nad kõige enam häirivad.
Iga artikli küljes on ju statiskika jubin mis näitab kui palju huvi mingi artikel tekitas ja mida rohkem tekitas seda rohkem reklaami raha + nendele hoogu kellest artikle kirjutati. Tean ise ka mitut homot nii mees kui naissoost ja nendest keedi ei tunne kedagi kes tänavale ringi jooksma sildid käes tahaks minna - seega tekib lausa küsimus, kelle jaoks nad seal on.
Vist ei pea rohkem lahti seletama seda lihtsalt arusaadavat teemat seega suundume tagasi otsingutele - kes on nö tolerastide täieõiguslikud välimäärajad :)
24 May 2011 13:02
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Koitla's link.
Samas vabandused kui ma täpselt aru ei saanud mida sa selle eelmise lause all mõtlesid Veiko - äkki selgitad natuke?
24 May 2011 12:41
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Koitla's link.
Tänud Veiko, kuid nüüd äkki keegi natukene midagi sisutihedamat oskab ka lisada mis ei sisalda (loodetavasti) teismeliste one-linereid mis lõppevad lausetega nagu "irw!
((kuna mind huvitab kellega räägin siis..) Kiire pilk su profiilil ilutseva 12le postitusele muidu andis päris hea ülevaata millised Sinu Personaalsed spetsiifilised huvid on, kuna neist seitse (7) näitasid ülesse väga suurt isiklikku huvi teatud asjade vastu. Kuid muidugi ma rohkem kaugemale ei uurinud - vb on selline raske perjood lihtsalt ja juhtusid ülekaalus olema ainult ühesuunalised mõtted.
ma päriselt ka siin kohal ei tee nalja ega ei iroonitse, lihtsalt proovin viisakalt abistavalt märku anda mida sa sedasi reklaamid.
Kuid eks iga mees on oma saatuse sepp ja oma õnne valaja. (tõlge: sul ei ole vaja mitte kedagi teist, et olla õnnelik, su õnn ei sõltu teistest vaid Sinust endast, see on alati nii olnud ja nii on. imho)
((kuna mind huvitab kellega räägin siis..) Kiire pilk su profiilil ilutseva 12le postitusele muidu andis päris hea ülevaata millised Sinu Personaalsed spetsiifilised huvid on, kuna neist seitse (7) näitasid ülesse väga suurt isiklikku huvi teatud asjade vastu. Kuid muidugi ma rohkem kaugemale ei uurinud - vb on selline raske perjood lihtsalt ja juhtusid ülekaalus olema ainult ühesuunalised mõtted.
ma päriselt ka siin kohal ei tee nalja ega ei iroonitse, lihtsalt proovin viisakalt abistavalt märku anda mida sa sedasi reklaamid.
Kuid eks iga mees on oma saatuse sepp ja oma õnne valaja. (tõlge: sul ei ole vaja mitte kedagi teist, et olla õnnelik, su õnn ei sõltu teistest vaid Sinust endast, see on alati nii olnud ja nii on. imho)
24 May 2011 12:39
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Koitla's link.
Tänud Aivar, jälle targem ühe termini "tolerastid" võrra. Sooviks ka oma silmaga mõnda kohata, päris põnev oleks, kirjeldus on intrigeeriv. Kui tead soovitada mõnda, siis ole meheks jaga kontakt või inimese nimi (saada kasvõi meil: margus@LetsDoitWorld.org), võtan ise ühendust.
Loodan, et need inimesed füüsilist ohtu endast ei kujuta, tegu ikkagi ju vist haigete inimestega nagu aru saan?
Kuid kohe tekkis ka siis uus paratmatu küsimus, kuidas neid nimetatakse kes teisi teavad 'tolerastid' olevat? Ega juhuslikult Sina ei juhtu üks neist olema või sa lihtsalt juhuslikult teatsid selle sõna tähendust?
See teadmine ju eeldaks (kirjelduse põhjal) neil siis olema sügavam arusaam selle kohta mis on Armastus, mis on Headus, Sallivus, Pervertsus kuid mitte ainult. Lisaks neil 'valgustatudel'(?) on ka kõrgem Teadmine ja arusaam inimkonna alusväärtustest ja arenguperspektiivist koos aeg-ruumi üldise ja laiema konteksti Mõistmisega.
Kusjuures kõikide nede suursuguste - õpiku vääriliste teadmiste juures (arvatvasti on neil ka palju valgustavaid raamatuid nende teemade kohta välja antud või muid väärilisi töid), elavad need inimesed väga tagasihoidliku elu.
Juhuks kui sa ise Seal veel ei ole, siis äkki tead-tunned selliseid inimesi isiklikult? Kas õppisid Neilt oma teadmised ja ammutasid arusaamad või tulid need nö pühast vaimust?
Väga põnev, räägi veel palun :)
Loodan, et need inimesed füüsilist ohtu endast ei kujuta, tegu ikkagi ju vist haigete inimestega nagu aru saan?
Kuid kohe tekkis ka siis uus paratmatu küsimus, kuidas neid nimetatakse kes teisi teavad 'tolerastid' olevat? Ega juhuslikult Sina ei juhtu üks neist olema või sa lihtsalt juhuslikult teatsid selle sõna tähendust?
See teadmine ju eeldaks (kirjelduse põhjal) neil siis olema sügavam arusaam selle kohta mis on Armastus, mis on Headus, Sallivus, Pervertsus kuid mitte ainult. Lisaks neil 'valgustatudel'(?) on ka kõrgem Teadmine ja arusaam inimkonna alusväärtustest ja arenguperspektiivist koos aeg-ruumi üldise ja laiema konteksti Mõistmisega.
Kusjuures kõikide nede suursuguste - õpiku vääriliste teadmiste juures (arvatvasti on neil ka palju valgustavaid raamatuid nende teemade kohta välja antud või muid väärilisi töid), elavad need inimesed väga tagasihoidliku elu.
Juhuks kui sa ise Seal veel ei ole, siis äkki tead-tunned selliseid inimesi isiklikult? Kas õppisid Neilt oma teadmised ja ammutasid arusaamad või tulid need nö pühast vaimust?
Väga põnev, räägi veel palun :)
24 May 2011 12:01
Margus Meigo commented on Kätlin Pirk's photo.
Vb on tegu Tegenariaga, see suht levinud maja ämblik mida mitut eri liiki: http://www.google.ee/search?um=1&hl=en&biw=1400&bih=940&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Tegenaria&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=
- kuid sõrmega torkida ei tasu, hammustus pidi suht valus olema osadel tegenaria/majaämblikute liikidel. Mul endal ka paar sellist suuremat chillisid kodus ringi kunagi. Päris asjalikud tundusid.
Kuid üldiselt kui teine elus siis vii kenast vaikselt teine kuskile maja müüri alla või pööningule, purgis ikka suht jama elada ju:)
Kui suurem huvi, siis nemad kindlasti teavad: http://www.zbi.ee/satikad/ammelgad/
- kuid sõrmega torkida ei tasu, hammustus pidi suht valus olema osadel tegenaria/majaämblikute liikidel. Mul endal ka paar sellist suuremat chillisid kodus ringi kunagi. Päris asjalikud tundusid.
Kuid üldiselt kui teine elus siis vii kenast vaikselt teine kuskile maja müüri alla või pööningule, purgis ikka suht jama elada ju:)
Kui suurem huvi, siis nemad kindlasti teavad: http://www.zbi.ee/satikad/ammelgad/
23 May 2011 15:46
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Koitla's link.
Kuid üks küsimus tekkis külll, mis hirmsad loomad need 'tolerastid' on ?
Kas keegi oskaks kirjeldada neid ja nende ohtu nii Eesti kui muudele riikidele, eriti kui selline kultus(?) veel suuremat hulka inimesi nakatama peaks. Mis ohud meid siis ees ootavad?
Keegi äkki oskab siin miskeid asjakohalusi kirjeldusi ja hoiatusi jagada.
Tänades Armastusega,
Margus
Kas keegi oskaks kirjeldada neid ja nende ohtu nii Eesti kui muudele riikidele, eriti kui selline kultus(?) veel suuremat hulka inimesi nakatama peaks. Mis ohud meid siis ees ootavad?
Keegi äkki oskab siin miskeid asjakohalusi kirjeldusi ja hoiatusi jagada.
Tänades Armastusega,
Margus
23 May 2011 14:01
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Koitla's link.
kas tõesti annab siia komentaaridesse lisamine midagi juurde?
Kas keegi muudab oma vaateid siit lugedes? Kui keegi loeb, et aeg on meie suhtes suhteline või, et vihkamine ja ego küljes kinni olemine on vabatahtlik manipulatsioonis osalemine mis probleemi ennast elus hoiab naabrite vahel ?
Ja me kõik oleme ju naabritega ühendatud kes on kõikide ülejäänud naabritega ühendatud - seega sellistel teemadel arutamine ei ole enam asjakohane (kes on "paha"), peaksime juba natuke vanemad ja targemad olema kuid endiselt oleks nagu tegu poisikestega kes keerutavad ülesse kasvatuseta või/ja kibestunud lapse arusaamu ja ihasi kättemaksust solvumiseni.
Vanale koerale uusi trikke ei õpetata öeldakse mõndade poolt kuid eks see ole näha kui palju peremees oma parimast sõbrast arukam on ja ise aru saab, et tal ise ennast kettis hoiab, vanast harjumusest või hirmust (enese&)teadmatuse eest? Vot ei seda tea...
Äratus
Kas keegi muudab oma vaateid siit lugedes? Kui keegi loeb, et aeg on meie suhtes suhteline või, et vihkamine ja ego küljes kinni olemine on vabatahtlik manipulatsioonis osalemine mis probleemi ennast elus hoiab naabrite vahel ?
Ja me kõik oleme ju naabritega ühendatud kes on kõikide ülejäänud naabritega ühendatud - seega sellistel teemadel arutamine ei ole enam asjakohane (kes on "paha"), peaksime juba natuke vanemad ja targemad olema kuid endiselt oleks nagu tegu poisikestega kes keerutavad ülesse kasvatuseta või/ja kibestunud lapse arusaamu ja ihasi kättemaksust solvumiseni.
Vanale koerale uusi trikke ei õpetata öeldakse mõndade poolt kuid eks see ole näha kui palju peremees oma parimast sõbrast arukam on ja ise aru saab, et tal ise ennast kettis hoiab, vanast harjumusest või hirmust (enese&)teadmatuse eest? Vot ei seda tea...
Äratus
23 May 2011 13:57
Margus Meigo commented on Sepp Hasslberger's post.
Besides, one of the largest privately hold gambling companies have everything that is needed in their history to spread the new's in to different channels around the world. Any news is good news they say.
But yes, with some hard work and slight hope that people who have a lot will see how much more they can be if they help us to help them to help everyone.
But yes, with some hard work and slight hope that people who have a lot will see how much more they can be if they help us to help them to help everyone.
23 May 2011 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on Sepp Hasslberger's post.
Maybe we can soon expect casino based global currency. Are they not, actually right now one of the few with realistic capabilities to make it global, fast + needed resources and trained people + security to keep the money safe also outside the Internet (you newer know when Nasa or conspirators might be right). They also have buildings around the world, media, Name that is trusted ...
One just needs to make one new network what connects using All casinos who want to be part of the new extra ... , some heavy talks of-course need to be made first by people who know people and who know in general :)
i am just thinking that we should not just start to build from 0 - everything. This would be waste of resources and energy and we are green (one or other way) so we do not waste good structures in place
One just needs to make one new network what connects using All casinos who want to be part of the new extra ... , some heavy talks of-course need to be made first by people who know people and who know in general :)
i am just thinking that we should not just start to build from 0 - everything. This would be waste of resources and energy and we are green (one or other way) so we do not waste good structures in place
23 May 2011 01:19
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Koitla's link.
(see viimase kommentaari kommentaar @ Aivar. - linki ennast ei ole praegu soovi lugeda, usun, et kirjeldus annab niigi sisust hea ülevaate)
23 May 2011 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on Aivar Koitla's link.
Aivar, väike parandus; Meie peaksime seisma Kõigi eest, kui me tahame seisma jääda.
Muidugi võib arvata ka, et me oleme erinevad liigid ja mõistlik ning võimalik on jätkata hõõrumist nagu oleks meie mingi ainuke kuld muna siin maapeal.
Muidugi võib arvata ka, et me oleme erinevad liigid ja mõistlik ning võimalik on jätkata hõõrumist nagu oleks meie mingi ainuke kuld muna siin maapeal.
23 May 2011 01:00
Margus Meigo commented on Financial Freedom's post.
Yes, this is what freedom means, that one is not slave to the money :)
Bdw, i found one more page you might be interested of, maybe team up with people there, mix some ideas: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Minu-%C3%A4ri/133199566728472
Will see you around! :)
Bdw, i found one more page you might be interested of, maybe team up with people there, mix some ideas: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Minu-%C3%A4ri/133199566728472
Will see you around! :)
22 May 2011 23:27
Margus Meigo commented on Sepp Hasslberger's post.
Have you also had a days when just reading words like "superior" and "fans" make you want to unblug the internet
22 May 2011 19:47
Margus Meigo commented on Financial Freedom's post.
Free from thought that one is restricted and can not do in life what one wants before the money arrives, if one does what one loves then money is secondary extra benefit that just often might come along, if one wants.
But again, this is just my view
But again, this is just my view
22 May 2011 16:15
Margus Meigo commented on Sepp Hasslberger's post.
Change in mind
I can demand my self for it
Or demand not
to Be
I can demand my self for it
Or demand not
to Be
22 May 2011 11:54
Margus Meigo commented on Financial Freedom's post.
What if one wants to be Free, not rich or cool?
22 May 2011 11:05
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
World would be better place if this' would generally mean 'cover'
not just "i am re-singing some song with modified sound" that often becomes knows as cover for some reason.
not just "i am re-singing some song with modified sound" that often becomes knows as cover for some reason.
21 May 2011 23:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tänud & my greetings to: Frederick & co, Kristel, Kai, Aiki, Toomas, Julia , Margit, Jansa, Serku, Kati , Anton, Merili, Ragnar, Kristjan
& Andrey, Dimitar , Piret, Maix, Helena-Eliise, Brothers & sisters & loved ones & everyone else from who i received uplifting personal greetings :)
Specially my Darling Kadri who cooked me most delicious cake i have eat in long time! jammmmY!
Do not forget - almoust everyday is everyones unbirthday - so there is always reason for good wishes, gifts & mood ! :)
Namaste
& Andrey, Dimitar , Piret, Maix, Helena-Eliise, Brothers & sisters & loved ones & everyone else from who i received uplifting personal greetings :)
Specially my Darling Kadri who cooked me most delicious cake i have eat in long time! jammmmY!
Do not forget - almoust everyday is everyones unbirthday - so there is always reason for good wishes, gifts & mood ! :)
Namaste
18 May 2011 12:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Muidu täna on hästi vaike alko vaba istumine minu pool, kui keegi juhtub lähedal olema .)
16 May 2011 19:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tänud Ilmar & Timo :))
16 May 2011 19:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I am all good as there is no reason not to be :)
16 May 2011 18:49
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's post.
& do not forget to map the waste same time ur traveling :P
http://www.worldcleanup2012.org/wastemap ;)
http://www.worldcleanup2012.org/wastemap ;)
16 May 2011 09:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Piret - ma mõtlesin, et midagi nagu oleks vibreerinud kuskil.. :)
Maix: kõike seda sama ka kõigile meile & teile :)
Maix: kõike seda sama ka kõigile meile & teile :)
16 May 2011 08:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuigi jah, viina võib vabalt ära anda kuna seda endal ei kulu muuks kui elektroonika puhastamiseks kuid mahla osas peab juba vaatama... päris värsketest marjadest seda pressida ei anna praegu veel
16 May 2011 08:44
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
When ur back ?
16 May 2011 08:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ma sama teksti mis eelmises postituses päris ümber tõlkima ei hakka, kuid kui teil on järgnevate päevade jooksul soov mu seinal jagada/postitada midagi mis on mulle mõeldud - tehke see postitus Siia komentaaridesse või saatke mulle otse postkasti, ärge tehke uut 'seina' postitust järgneva nädala jooksul :)
Samas uurin kas inimesed ka tähelepanu pööravad seintele kus nad endast teada annavad, kas neid huvitab.
Samas uurin kas inimesed ka tähelepanu pööravad seintele kus nad endast teada annavad, kas neid huvitab.
15 May 2011 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
With past years, i have noticed that few times per year people dent to flood each other's wall with one liners - many of them appear to be from app's/robots that do it automatically. Often many of us wonder - is particular greeting really warm/personal one or is it just something random that people post as duty.
Do people actually pay attention to the wall's where they post?
So - if your post is at any level personal or directed to me - post it here as reply or/and send it as personal message.
Do not make new wall post (here) with in next week.
Do people actually pay attention to the wall's where they post?
So - if your post is at any level personal or directed to me - post it here as reply or/and send it as personal message.
Do not make new wall post (here) with in next week.
15 May 2011 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on Todd Akira Morikawa's photo.
You live there? :)
15 May 2011 16:12
Margus Meigo commented on Todd Akira Morikawa's link.
It's kind of sad that we are still producing pictures with messages that "you should pay back, and as bloody and harsh as possible.. " - yeah, this is what is so needed for us in these times.
Is this really only angel of this kind of storeys we can produce?
Is this really only angel of this kind of storeys we can produce?
15 May 2011 16:10
Margus Meigo commented on Alar Sudak's link.
....Huvitav kui paljud noored elavad kaasa muusikutele kes päriselt midagi loovad mida ka kümneid aastaid hiljem kuulata kõlbab, või vähemalt midagi kus oleks originaalne meloodia või inimestele korda minev sõnum.
just wondering
just wondering
15 May 2011 15:54
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Oleneb kes mida sellega mõtleb Erik
14 May 2011 20:42
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Meie oma abielu tegime aga selliselt, et raha ei olnud selle registreerimisel seotud - vaid midagi olulisemat. Ning lisaks ka muud reeglid tegime nii nagu Meie soovime, mitte yhiskonna mõttelise normpiiri järgi mida keegi ette kujutab mingis asukohas mingil ajaperjoodil
12 May 2011 18:13
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Aga mis nendest saab kellel on raha enne... peavad sellest loobuma enne kui armastust otsima hakkavad? :P
12 May 2011 16:55
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
armastuse ja raha liit võiks olla abielu?
Hmm
Hmm
12 May 2011 16:33
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Okey, Peetriga suht samas suunas läks see asi :D
12 May 2011 16:25
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Senikaua kui see armastus raha vastu pole, sest siis kaob ka see armastus(e tunne) kui raha kaob
12 May 2011 16:25
Margus Meigo commented on Gea Otsa's post.
Group: Cleanupworld 2012 Eestisuunaline komm
Ka mulle tundub, et sobib :)12 May 2011 11:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(no) reason for panic?! HPE (Hominoid Puriform Encephalopathy) has infected large part of Europe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVUhSt6wFEY
CNN story about it -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9t6JulP7UU
http://www.evropa.gov.si/en/content/news/news/select/environment/news/thousands-join-campaign-to-clean-up-slovenia/274935a15d/ - in Slovenia, 2010 - 270 000 people joined in, it's about 12 to 13% of population
Estonia - Teeme Ära startup in 2008, 50 000 + people:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5GryIDl0qY
email for questions Margus@LetsDoitWorld.org or contact directly with your regional coordinator or with WorldCleanup2012 global partners
You can also join in there: http://www.causes.com/causes/550956
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVUhSt6wFEY
CNN story about it -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9t6JulP7UU
http://www.evropa.gov.si/en/content/news/news/select/environment/news/thousands-join-campaign-to-clean-up-slovenia/274935a15d/ - in Slovenia, 2010 - 270 000 people joined in, it's about 12 to 13% of population
Estonia - Teeme Ära startup in 2008, 50 000 + people:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5GryIDl0qY
email for questions Margus@LetsDoitWorld.org or contact directly with your regional coordinator or with WorldCleanup2012 global partners
You can also join in there: http://www.causes.com/causes/550956
11 May 2011 16:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In past over one million people have joined in with in last years (from India to Slovenia to African countries ..), but this is small warm-up for one of the biggest happening you will see next year, around the world :)
I urge not to oversleep this, whatever you believe in to - in the end these things are pretty much same for all of us. Look the Bigger picture what might happen then & after, when 300.. or why not even 600+.. million people will 'synchronize their channels'
for one aim
I urge not to oversleep this, whatever you believe in to - in the end these things are pretty much same for all of us. Look the Bigger picture what might happen then & after, when 300.. or why not even 600+.. million people will 'synchronize their channels'
for one aim
11 May 2011 15:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Jup ;)
9 May 2011 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
See kõik un vahva, kuid me ei peaks eesmärgiks mitte panema teise poole vakka vaid rääkima saamise, et saaksime kuulata kõigepealt.
6 May 2011 11:02
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Ando, it's ok - mehed tihti peale muretsevad liialt nii selle kui selle pikenduse pärast - ja siis ei olda kohtamistel enesekindlad selliste totrate asjade pärast.
Hiljem meestel muidugi raske tunnistada - et asjad ei läinud nii ei selle, ega selle pikenduse pärast, vaid pigem enesekindluse puudumise pärast mida teine kas siis teadlikult või alateadlikult tunnetas.
Mitmetel nö alfa-ülburid kes on 'loto võitnud' käituvatki või ongi väga enesekindlalt - kuid see just see ongi see mis tegelt naiste seas neile edu toob. Nende paari peamise asja pärast mille pärast mees muretseb - nede omamisel on mehel lihtsalt lisa enesekindlsust ja kvaliteete mida naised tunnetavad. Mehed aga ekslikult arvavad, et naised nede asjade järel jooksevad. Kõik oleneb kui sügavale keegi vaadata soovib.
Arvatvasti mitmed 'alfad' seda ise ka päris ei teadvusta, mis tegelt see oli mis naised ta juurde tõmbas. Küll märkab seda aga tähelepanelikum naine - kas mehe enesekindlus & eneseväärikus tugineb ainult lihtsate asjade taga või on seal sisu ka
Hiljem meestel muidugi raske tunnistada - et asjad ei läinud nii ei selle, ega selle pikenduse pärast, vaid pigem enesekindluse puudumise pärast mida teine kas siis teadlikult või alateadlikult tunnetas.
Mitmetel nö alfa-ülburid kes on 'loto võitnud' käituvatki või ongi väga enesekindlalt - kuid see just see ongi see mis tegelt naiste seas neile edu toob. Nende paari peamise asja pärast mille pärast mees muretseb - nede omamisel on mehel lihtsalt lisa enesekindlsust ja kvaliteete mida naised tunnetavad. Mehed aga ekslikult arvavad, et naised nede asjade järel jooksevad. Kõik oleneb kui sügavale keegi vaadata soovib.
Arvatvasti mitmed 'alfad' seda ise ka päris ei teadvusta, mis tegelt see oli mis naised ta juurde tõmbas. Küll märkab seda aga tähelepanelikum naine - kas mehe enesekindlus & eneseväärikus tugineb ainult lihtsate asjade taga või on seal sisu ka
6 May 2011 07:45
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Seda öeldi juba mitmelt poolt siis - kui hundist räägid... eks need vanad elu tarkused :)
5 May 2011 00:01
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
kui see kõik päris oli, siis just wondering... Kuhu see "ei armu iial" jäi mis just välja sai reklaamitud mõni aeg tagasi. Samas eks selline käitumine ongi väärikas kui suhtlusele ei vastata :)
5 May 2011 00:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Well, there is more - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzKp43RC9Dk :)
Osama.. Obama... aaah, who cares
Osama.. Obama... aaah, who cares
4 May 2011 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPrtA7e6pW4 - i wonder if they notice every time their mistakes so fast
4 May 2011 22:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Naine teeb oma mehele hommikusöögiks praemune. Mingil hetkel tormab kööki mees.
"Ettevaatust," ehmatab ta, "ETTEVAATUST! Pane võid juurde! Oh jumal! Sul on korraga liiga palju pannil. LIIGA PALJU! Pööra neid! PÖÖRA NEID RUTTU! Meil on vaja rohkem võid. Oh issand! KUST me saame VÕID JUURDE? Nad jäävad KINNI! Ettevaatust. ETTEVAATUST! Ma ütlesin VAATA ETTE! Sa ei kuula mind KUNAGI, kui sa küpsetad! Mitte kunagi! Pööra neid! Ruttu! Kas sa oled SEGANE? Kas sa oled HULL? Ära unusta soola panna. Sa unustad alati soola panna. Kasuta soola! KASUTA SOOLA! SOOLA!
Naine vahib meest ehmunult. "Mis sinul nüüd lahti on?? Arvad, et ma ei oska paari muna praadida?"
Mees rahulikult vastu, "Sama tunne on minul, kui ma autot juhin"
"Ettevaatust," ehmatab ta, "ETTEVAATUST! Pane võid juurde! Oh jumal! Sul on korraga liiga palju pannil. LIIGA PALJU! Pööra neid! PÖÖRA NEID RUTTU! Meil on vaja rohkem võid. Oh issand! KUST me saame VÕID JUURDE? Nad jäävad KINNI! Ettevaatust. ETTEVAATUST! Ma ütlesin VAATA ETTE! Sa ei kuula mind KUNAGI, kui sa küpsetad! Mitte kunagi! Pööra neid! Ruttu! Kas sa oled SEGANE? Kas sa oled HULL? Ära unusta soola panna. Sa unustad alati soola panna. Kasuta soola! KASUTA SOOLA! SOOLA!
Naine vahib meest ehmunult. "Mis sinul nüüd lahti on?? Arvad, et ma ei oska paari muna praadida?"
Mees rahulikult vastu, "Sama tunne on minul, kui ma autot juhin"
4 May 2011 21:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The Psychology of Revenge: Why We Should Stop Celebrating Osama Bin Laden's Death:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pamela-gerloff/the-psychology-of-revenge_b_856184.html
"Celebrating" the killing of any member of our species--for example, by chanting USA! USA! and singing The Star Spangled Banner outside the White House or jubilantly demonstrating in the streets--is a violation of human dignity. Regardless of the perceived degree of "good" or "evil" in any of us, we are all, each of us, human. To celebrate the killing of a life, any life, is a failure to honor life's inherent sanctity.
- Hopefully more messages like that will be in mayor outlets. This would speed up the 'evolution' a lot.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pamela-gerloff/the-psychology-of-revenge_b_856184.html
"Celebrating" the killing of any member of our species--for example, by chanting USA! USA! and singing The Star Spangled Banner outside the White House or jubilantly demonstrating in the streets--is a violation of human dignity. Regardless of the perceived degree of "good" or "evil" in any of us, we are all, each of us, human. To celebrate the killing of a life, any life, is a failure to honor life's inherent sanctity.
- Hopefully more messages like that will be in mayor outlets. This would speed up the 'evolution' a lot.
4 May 2011 15:38
Margus Meigo commented on Michel Bauwens's link.
I wonder what was on the "Comrade George Orwell" page?
4 May 2011 13:01
Margus Meigo commented on Michel Bauwens's link.
If i would be FB "big brother" and have to take down ONE page that someone with lot of power does not like - then i personally would take 49 other pages with it that for sure must be taken down (there is thousands of them).
It's good many ways
1) Most likely no one notices it as action against this page
2) Most likely no one notices this page in the list at all
3) Most people are really happy that this action was done
4) Most people will assume This page was also like this...
5) Most people forget it fast as the new wave will come
6) Most people not related to the page can not care
7) it can always be labelled as small error - most believe
etc
It's kind of flackback like the global child pornography filter that sometimes had some strange political or investigative pages in the watch list... no one noticed before Australian and Thailand secret website list was hacked and posted to net's ..
But of-course - i have not looked this list of pages, i just do not care or do not have time to care - as must people, as long my pages are not touched
It's good many ways
1) Most likely no one notices it as action against this page
2) Most likely no one notices this page in the list at all
3) Most people are really happy that this action was done
4) Most people will assume This page was also like this...
5) Most people forget it fast as the new wave will come
6) Most people not related to the page can not care
7) it can always be labelled as small error - most believe
etc
It's kind of flackback like the global child pornography filter that sometimes had some strange political or investigative pages in the watch list... no one noticed before Australian and Thailand secret website list was hacked and posted to net's ..
But of-course - i have not looked this list of pages, i just do not care or do not have time to care - as must people, as long my pages are not touched
4 May 2011 12:59
Margus Meigo commented on Mike Daws's link.
Not really - it is not 'one organization' - it's an network of ideals partly driven by emotion, partly by intelligent by different cell's around the world with often many different aims from each-other. There is many influential leaders in different sectors.
If you know names like Ayman al-Zawahiri & Abu Yahya al-Libi for starters, then you know what i am talking about :)
This action actually might have helped this network to become more real & renewed as now many of them can feel more secure as the big hyped up star is no more. So many of them waited for it for so long.
Do you remember in your news when Pakistan wanted to hand over BinLaden but to third party country but USA did not care for the offer?
If you know names like Ayman al-Zawahiri & Abu Yahya al-Libi for starters, then you know what i am talking about :)
This action actually might have helped this network to become more real & renewed as now many of them can feel more secure as the big hyped up star is no more. So many of them waited for it for so long.
Do you remember in your news when Pakistan wanted to hand over BinLaden but to third party country but USA did not care for the offer?
3 May 2011 23:02
Margus Meigo commented on Mike Daws's link.
Well, not sure how smart would be to kill the guy who has most information when we have all the tec needed to get people alive when needed, in almost any situation.
But at same time, the video material will be out as soon as it's ready to show the perfect kill :)
But at same time, the video material will be out as soon as it's ready to show the perfect kill :)
3 May 2011 22:28
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Veedler's link.
see nagu halb tseen mingist futuristlikust idiocrasy filmist mida loodetavasti ei tehta
3 May 2011 21:43
Margus Meigo commented on Kristjan Veedler's link.
... & siis imestatakse - igasuguste asjade üle
3 May 2011 21:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
& why would anyone in their right mind want to kill guy with most valuable info (for them) about "the base" ?
it's like in Zoolander movie when guy get's finally the computer with all the info that is needed & will destroy it
it's like in Zoolander movie when guy get's finally the computer with all the info that is needed & will destroy it
3 May 2011 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on Peter Paul Kantor's link.
It's strange - i thought i had similar idea and it was original - now i see there is people all around who can understand that :)
3 May 2011 19:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Some extra names that ended up on my fingertips - for people who are interested about people relating to the topic: http://www.psychedelic-experience.info/en/forum.html
3 May 2011 15:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
PS: Please do NOT confuse it with street pills, this is the Russian roulette thing one mentioned in the start of the documentary.
3 May 2011 11:13
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Hine's link.
After all, Bin laden's needs also rest :)
3 May 2011 01:24
Margus Meigo commented on Thea Kristal's post.
Võib olla väike võimalus, et meist mõned kuni lahkumiseni on sellel laine harjal ja ei saa siin seda häbi tunda sõnade pärast mida rääkinud oleme. Kuid kui läheb õnneks ja võtame vastu selle teadvuse saabumise varem siis peaksime ainult rahulikult tänulikud olema, et hakkasime nägema kauguse nägematust saades aru oma pimedusest mis valgust kiirteel varjas.
Nägemine lõppeb sealt kust algab mõte, et näeme paremini kui teised. Sedasi vahest võib isegi nägemata jääda see kuidas meid ennast läbi lähakse.
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Kas keegi seda lugu tead ühest meistrist kes õpetas inimesi tuld tegema kuid tema eemaldamisel jäi tast järgi vaid palju lugusi tuletegemisest ja pildimaterjali mida kummardada. Ei mingit tuld mis soojust või valgust annaks, vaid ainult lood ja pildid sellest kui soe ja ere see tuli oli. Kuuldavasti seda uhkemaks osad ennast pidavat mida sügavamalt selle loo endale pähe õpivad või usutavasti selgeks teevad. Tuld ennast muidugi ainuüksi loost ja teadmistest ei tule, selleks on vaja hakata Välekiks või nagu mõned teavad rääkida - tuleks endaks :)
Nägemine lõppeb sealt kust algab mõte, et näeme paremini kui teised. Sedasi vahest võib isegi nägemata jääda see kuidas meid ennast läbi lähakse.
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Kas keegi seda lugu tead ühest meistrist kes õpetas inimesi tuld tegema kuid tema eemaldamisel jäi tast järgi vaid palju lugusi tuletegemisest ja pildimaterjali mida kummardada. Ei mingit tuld mis soojust või valgust annaks, vaid ainult lood ja pildid sellest kui soe ja ere see tuli oli. Kuuldavasti seda uhkemaks osad ennast pidavat mida sügavamalt selle loo endale pähe õpivad või usutavasti selgeks teevad. Tuld ennast muidugi ainuüksi loost ja teadmistest ei tule, selleks on vaja hakata Välekiks või nagu mõned teavad rääkida - tuleks endaks :)
2 May 2011 23:45
Margus Meigo commented on Valentina VP's photo.
Yes Dirty Diana... we can call it newer! ;)
2 May 2011 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on Valentina VP's photo.
You paparazzis!
2 May 2011 23:01
Margus Meigo commented on Valentina VP's photo.
... & later Diana joined in and things went a bit kinky... ;)
2 May 2011 23:01
Margus Meigo commented on Valentina VP's photo.
Thank You guys! :D
Sarunas - your smile says a lot... do you want to share? :D
Judit - damn, you just look - perfect :)
Sarunas - your smile says a lot... do you want to share? :D
Judit - damn, you just look - perfect :)
2 May 2011 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Some might thing "There is many well qualified people from Mujahideen Shura Council to LIFG & in many other groups talked about in media (or not), some with good extra training from west" - why not anyone else?
Let's face it Abu Yahya al-Libi is cool! Right?
One has lot of influence among youth and already got some good PR around the world before making any serious attacks. Besides - he was also in to tec & in to internets´ long before many of you. Influential IT guy who writes romantic poems - surely many of you ladies felt interested by the end of this sentence. No?
As Jarret Brachman told (http://fora.tv/2010/01/11/Making_the_Next_Bin_Laden#chapter_02) "He’s a warrior. He’s a poet. He’s a scholar. He’s a pundit. He’s a military commander. And he’s a very charismatic, young, brash rising star within Al-Qaeda, and I think he has become the heir apparent to Osama bin Laden in terms of taking over the entire global jihadist movement." - Man knows what man is talking about.
Who would be your favourite Next ´BinLaden´? (you can appoint few - one for media Image for scaring us in west and one who is doing more then that)
Let's see what future brings, from IT to information to consciousness war...
But in the end... In the end, it's just war against ourselves
Let's face it Abu Yahya al-Libi is cool! Right?
One has lot of influence among youth and already got some good PR around the world before making any serious attacks. Besides - he was also in to tec & in to internets´ long before many of you. Influential IT guy who writes romantic poems - surely many of you ladies felt interested by the end of this sentence. No?
As Jarret Brachman told (http://fora.tv/2010/01/11/Making_the_Next_Bin_Laden#chapter_02) "He’s a warrior. He’s a poet. He’s a scholar. He’s a pundit. He’s a military commander. And he’s a very charismatic, young, brash rising star within Al-Qaeda, and I think he has become the heir apparent to Osama bin Laden in terms of taking over the entire global jihadist movement." - Man knows what man is talking about.
Who would be your favourite Next ´BinLaden´? (you can appoint few - one for media Image for scaring us in west and one who is doing more then that)
Let's see what future brings, from IT to information to consciousness war...
But in the end... In the end, it's just war against ourselves
2 May 2011 22:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
We need to make decision now - who we want to be afraid next, there is many names to choose, from respected Ayman al-Zawahiri to nice looking Adnan Gulshair el Shukrijumah to loved Abu Yahya al-Libi.
I would vote for al-Libi, specially as i also like poems - for todays democraic voting system i do not think i need to fill in more reasons but i will explain my self a little to clarify my choice.
Zawahiri anyway has a lot of work to do as a head' of al-qaeda and a last emir of EIJ. Shukrijumah USA background in the other hand, will give for one better understanding of local culture, peoples mindset and strategic locations. But let's face it, besides hes age he just does not have this needed terrorist look to scare crap out from you or to make you think he is leader for evil organization in deep caves.
Of-course for the ratings best option would be Khalid Sheikh Mohammed - we all know hes job's but so few know hes name, how come? Here is the guy with great CV and good look for the job. Unfortunately for some he has still not escaped from the custody so he is out from the picture for now (as European i hope he was joking about nukes they release if Osama is captured http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8471907/WikiLeaks-Guantanamo-Bay-terrorist-secrets-revealed.html - really, this would Not be cool! )
I would vote for al-Libi, specially as i also like poems - for todays democraic voting system i do not think i need to fill in more reasons but i will explain my self a little to clarify my choice.
Zawahiri anyway has a lot of work to do as a head' of al-qaeda and a last emir of EIJ. Shukrijumah USA background in the other hand, will give for one better understanding of local culture, peoples mindset and strategic locations. But let's face it, besides hes age he just does not have this needed terrorist look to scare crap out from you or to make you think he is leader for evil organization in deep caves.
Of-course for the ratings best option would be Khalid Sheikh Mohammed - we all know hes job's but so few know hes name, how come? Here is the guy with great CV and good look for the job. Unfortunately for some he has still not escaped from the custody so he is out from the picture for now (as European i hope he was joking about nukes they release if Osama is captured http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8471907/WikiLeaks-Guantanamo-Bay-terrorist-secrets-revealed.html - really, this would Not be cool! )
2 May 2011 21:21
Margus Meigo commented on Valentina VP's link.
(the W.I.Z. does videos for groups like Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, Marilin Manson, Oasis etc - and they usually have something important to say in the videos. There might be subliminal message in the video that i missed. It would be expected from W.I.Z. to inject something like that in to this ;)
Or at least, we can hope it is so and everyone is not selling themselves out for magically appearing papers/numbers they call Money :)
Or at least, we can hope it is so and everyone is not selling themselves out for magically appearing papers/numbers they call Money :)
2 May 2011 15:28
Margus Meigo commented on Valentina VP's link.
It was not my intention to criticize at all i was just admitting the facts more or less.
Actually the only russian thing in video is the old Lux car Volga. The video is done in Rumenia by UK producers.
The warning sing is nothing more then "Don't Look Back" - they just used Cyrillic letters
The video was saved probably by W.I.Z. who was producer for filming - but no idea why they would spend effort for this project with corny lyrics & pop outcome like that. They usually work for things that mean more.
Actually the only russian thing in video is the old Lux car Volga. The video is done in Rumenia by UK producers.
The warning sing is nothing more then "Don't Look Back" - they just used Cyrillic letters
The video was saved probably by W.I.Z. who was producer for filming - but no idea why they would spend effort for this project with corny lyrics & pop outcome like that. They usually work for things that mean more.
2 May 2011 15:08
Margus Meigo commented on Valentina VP's link.
Yes, Russia can also imitate cheap pop music messages in Hollywood style to get more people hyphenated to the empty emotions and messages in TV, it's not so hard to copy mass production so why to be surprised it's from Russia?
Main difference is i guess - If it would be done in USA then car would have also exploded :)
Nicely done video, specially violin part - one live item in the video played by robotic girls, nice idea
Main difference is i guess - If it would be done in USA then car would have also exploded :)
Nicely done video, specially violin part - one live item in the video played by robotic girls, nice idea
2 May 2011 11:20
Margus Meigo commented on Valentina VP's photo.
Why me? :D
aaa... u thought "Let's Change Life More Sweet (magusaks)" slogan i guess :P
aaa... u thought "Let's Change Life More Sweet (magusaks)" slogan i guess :P
2 May 2011 11:09
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's photo.
You look sexy :)
1 May 2011 00:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
For every thrill the downfall fallows - specially if one can not manage the landing.
It's the case often with one who looks cheap thrills in mass-production stuff & illusions
It's the case often with one who looks cheap thrills in mass-production stuff & illusions
29 April 2011 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Well, tell me more what you mean exactly, what points seem to harsh or socialistic? The idea that people in generally use to much stuff, they look happiness from the places it does not rely is to far left or the idea that all this generates a lot of hidden waste before and after that most consumers have no slightest idea about?
As with person in scientific background you might have come across some studies that show how a lot of stuff does not make us happy for a long run.
As with person in scientific background you might have come across some studies that show how a lot of stuff does not make us happy for a long run.
29 April 2011 16:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Why so? As She is pressing right issues - others just walk around and wondering about it, doing nothing :)
Look at her colbert interview to understand her more http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=151
Look at her colbert interview to understand her more http://www.storyofstuff.com/blog/?p=151
29 April 2011 16:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
So why in the heck we do not take an action ? What are we, utterly stupid ?
The HP and some others... should be charged for ecological terrorism i thought, after i noticed that they have like 50+ different adapters for laptops released with in few years. This is just simply retarded to go on like this.
But then again, the lighter side of me realized that maybe they just cant see what they do, so we should educate them and help them to figure out how much money they can save by doing it other way's (including fines they should pay otherwise). They are usually more motivated with different kind of green - i am sure there is win-win solutions
Thankfully EU at least ban separate cell phone chargers, i am sure laptops will fallow soon.
Everyone to work now!
The HP and some others... should be charged for ecological terrorism i thought, after i noticed that they have like 50+ different adapters for laptops released with in few years. This is just simply retarded to go on like this.
But then again, the lighter side of me realized that maybe they just cant see what they do, so we should educate them and help them to figure out how much money they can save by doing it other way's (including fines they should pay otherwise). They are usually more motivated with different kind of green - i am sure there is win-win solutions
Thankfully EU at least ban separate cell phone chargers, i am sure laptops will fallow soon.
Everyone to work now!
29 April 2011 15:44
Margus Meigo commented on Eestlased Facebookis's link.
Imelik kuidas potensiaalselt nii positiivne võimalus/muutus ühiskonnas läbi mõne ajakirjaniku kes tõlgendab mõne pessimistliku teadlase isiklikku arvamust olukorrale, nii dramaatilise kuue saada võib.
29 April 2011 14:36
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Estonia Valsberg's note.
Sellel lilleorul väga asjalik koduleht, kiiduväärt!
28 April 2011 15:16
Margus Meigo commented on Alari Leidsalu's link.
Nii dramaatiliselt mööda artiklit pole pikka aega lugenud. Selle asemel, et seda näha väga positiivse juhtumina (s.h. elektroonika hävinemist, mis meid potensiaalselt reaalsusele lähemalt viiks) spinnitakse seal ülesse draamat rohkem kui Holliwoodi filmis.
28 April 2011 14:51
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Estonia Valsberg's note.
& kogu see neti kampaania sai arvatvasti suurema hoo sisse 2006 sellest artiklist http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2006/10mar_stormwarning/ - googli ajatabelist vaadates siis hakati rohkem ja rohkem neid jutte aegajalt ringi keerutama
Igatahes, jõudu kõigile ja ärge Maailma Koristus 2012 prohekti unustage - eriti kui elekter peaks ära kaduma pikemaks ajaks on selline projekt rohkem kui vajalik, ning nagu enne ütlesin - mitte ainult prügi pärast :)
Igatahes, jõudu kõigile ja ärge Maailma Koristus 2012 prohekti unustage - eriti kui elekter peaks ära kaduma pikemaks ajaks on selline projekt rohkem kui vajalik, ning nagu enne ütlesin - mitte ainult prügi pärast :)
28 April 2011 14:38
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Estonia Valsberg's note.
& kes muidugi täpsemalt teada tahab siis soovitan võtta mõned nimed sealt http://www.ofcm.gov/swef/2010/SWEF_2010_Summary_Report_%28Final%29.pdf ja neile kirjutada ja küsida paremat infot kui kollase ajakirjanduse või neti foorumite tõlgendused. Kuid kes meist seda viitsiks teha... :)
28 April 2011 14:32
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Estonia Valsberg's note.
Kõik saab korda kohe kui aru saadakse, et midagi pole kunagi korrast ära olnutki peale selle mõtte, et asjad on korrast ära. See mõte uinutas meid rohkem ja rohkem sügavasse unne. Meid juba lapsena nakatati mitmete programmidega mis meie reaalsus kanali viis sinna kus ta tundub olevat.
Isesorti küsimus on, kas on vaja nüüd oodata mingit x päeva selleks, et Õnnelik olla. Kui suure tõenäosusega need kes ootavad mingit õnnist päeva leiavad sellest päevast seda mida otsisid? Kas see kui keegi ootab ja otsib mitte ei lähe soovide/ihade katekoorjasse mis omakorda ei peaks eriti suureks abiks olema sellel teel kuhu minna soovitakse.
Isesorti küsimus on, kas on vaja nüüd oodata mingit x päeva selleks, et Õnnelik olla. Kui suure tõenäosusega need kes ootavad mingit õnnist päeva leiavad sellest päevast seda mida otsisid? Kas see kui keegi ootab ja otsib mitte ei lähe soovide/ihade katekoorjasse mis omakorda ei peaks eriti suureks abiks olema sellel teel kuhu minna soovitakse.
28 April 2011 14:18
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Estonia Valsberg's note.
Õigust räägid :)
28 April 2011 14:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
There is one more thing to mention - it's Really hard to get it if you Want it, as Wanting is Desire. & Desire is...
But some might think: "i have illusion that good things do not come easy, so how hard would it be, to get It, as i really really want to get it just to see what it's all about?"
- As hard as for one to want something that one does not know. Gambling skills most likely will not be helpful here, half-metaphorically speaking, in coversations with my self
But some might think: "i have illusion that good things do not come easy, so how hard would it be, to get It, as i really really want to get it just to see what it's all about?"
- As hard as for one to want something that one does not know. Gambling skills most likely will not be helpful here, half-metaphorically speaking, in coversations with my self
28 April 2011 14:01
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Estonia Valsberg's note.
Kiesha muidu tore naine kuid kahju, et ta kuidagi läbi ei saa suure osa Native'st või Grandmother's ringiga.
28 April 2011 13:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Here is longer version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsQJyKhmqkQ recommend to look for people who have not jet. It gives much more insight what he is talking about, more personal :)
Does anyone knows the full-full link or it's all cut for Tolle tv?
Does anyone knows the full-full link or it's all cut for Tolle tv?
28 April 2011 12:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Actually the YT video is just connected with psychedelics for parallel thought (as uploaded Get It maybe with little help). But what he is talking about - one does not need at all any psychedelics for it, one will just need to stop the fear to understand. (i think Alan Watts put it best on he's Fear video)
But...
...Sometimes one needs a Little Help from the Friends
But...
...Sometimes one needs a Little Help from the Friends
28 April 2011 11:52
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Estonia Valsberg's note.
Ei lõhke - need on võimalik enne välja lülitada kui vajadust on ja vajalik info vajalike inimesteni viia :)
28 April 2011 10:51
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Estonia Valsberg's note.
Kui keegi arvab, et nüüd on peale 2012 hea lullata sest probleemid puuuduvad siis jah - selline võimalus on olemas, kuid mitte sellel juhul kui meie siia planeedile jääda tahame. Elu-Hariduse võrgustik tuleb luua kes täiesti elementaarseid asju inimestele seletama hakkavad - seda muidugi tehakse praegu üle maailma juba :)
28 April 2011 10:43
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Estonia Valsberg's note.
Nagu ka koristus projekt mille kriitilisest vajadusest on raske inimesi aru saama panna. Just selle vajadusest, et see ülemaailma nii tuntud ja tegus oleks kui võimalik. Kujutad sa ette mis toimuma hakkab ilma elektrita... või kui prügiautod enam ei sõida (kasvõi selle pärast, et palka ei maksta oletades, et masinad töötavad hästi) - need haigused ja ... well, kellel fantaasiat vähegi on võib ise edasi näha mis siis toimuma hakkab kui inimesed ei tutvu eelnevalt prügiga ning sellega kuidas seda koristada või selle tootmist vähendada. Mõnes euroopa linnas lühi ajalised prügi ära viimise protestid tekitasid juba kriisi oleku väga kiirelt.
Mida rohkem rämpsu seda tumedam teadvus inimestel kellel see niigi tume tundub - seega jah, ilus vaatepilt olema ei saa nii tegude kui olude poolest.
Mida rohkem rämpsu seda tumedam teadvus inimestel kellel see niigi tume tundub - seega jah, ilus vaatepilt olema ei saa nii tegude kui olude poolest.
28 April 2011 10:43
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Estonia Valsberg's note.
& metsaalune kuhu lähed kui maja maha põleb ;)
28 April 2011 10:29
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Estonia Valsberg's note.
Toa võid koristamata jätta kuid mine korista majatagune ära :)
28 April 2011 10:29
Margus Meigo commented on Tom Estonia Valsberg's note.
Ma ammu muiates arvanud, et see üks reaalseid asju võib olla mis juhtub mitmete asjade kokku langemisel mis 2012 tulema hakkab. Massiline teadvuse muutmine hakkab pihta õnneks :)
Muidugi me loodame siin eestis, et me Let's Do it - Clean Up the World 2012 programmi piisavalt üle maailma käima saame selleks ajaks ning 300 millionit inimest ikka puhastama läheb, enne seda kui juhe välja tõmmatakse.
http://www.letsdoitworld.org - antke teada kui teil on häid välismaa kontakte kes võiksid protsessi kiirendada või kui soovite ise kaasa lüüa - meil on väga suur hulk erinevaid tiime kus käe saate anda :)
Muidugi me loodame siin eestis, et me Let's Do it - Clean Up the World 2012 programmi piisavalt üle maailma käima saame selleks ajaks ning 300 millionit inimest ikka puhastama läheb, enne seda kui juhe välja tõmmatakse.
http://www.letsdoitworld.org - antke teada kui teil on häid välismaa kontakte kes võiksid protsessi kiirendada või kui soovite ise kaasa lüüa - meil on väga suur hulk erinevaid tiime kus käe saate anda :)
28 April 2011 10:27
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's link.
...või samas...
Kas see on tõesti nii raskesi arusaadav konsept kõigile või lihtsalt nendele keda emotsonaalselt sellised videod kõigutavad endiselt?
Kas see on tõesti nii raskesi arusaadav konsept kõigile või lihtsalt nendele keda emotsonaalselt sellised videod kõigutavad endiselt?
27 April 2011 13:18
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's link.
@ Indrek - nii palju näinud/lugenud mehena võiksid ometigi sina juba aru saada, et nii lapsikud arusaamad nagu "enne nad peavad kahetsema siis me andestame" on liivakasti programm millest Sina peaksid küll juba ammu välja kasvanud olema.
Mulle tundub, et suur hulk arvamuse avaldajaid käituvad nagu programeeritud pärdikud kes teevad täpselt sedasi (genereerivad selliseid emotsioone/tegusi) nagu laua taga programmis paika sai pandud arhidektide poolt.
Proovige seda nüüd mitte isiklikult võtta, sest see pole.
Mulle tundub, et suur hulk arvamuse avaldajaid käituvad nagu programeeritud pärdikud kes teevad täpselt sedasi (genereerivad selliseid emotsioone/tegusi) nagu laua taga programmis paika sai pandud arhidektide poolt.
Proovige seda nüüd mitte isiklikult võtta, sest see pole.
27 April 2011 13:18
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's link.
... & merry-go-round hakkab jälle keerlema andes lootust uute emotsioonide ülesse keeramisele tuues meid tagasi ja tagasi...
26 April 2011 14:20
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's link.
Seni kuni seda mäletatakse sellena mis ta oli, võib toda ju suht emotsiooni vabalt meeles pidada, endal. Kuid tegu ei ole muidugi millegi väga erilisega selle sündimise ja struktuuri osas.
See tundub eriline meile sest meie noorem generatsioon ei olnud siin maal midagi sellist kogenud ega ei viitsinud ennast ka muu maailma ja ajalooga kursis hoida (rääkimata lihtsamatest emotsioonidega manipuleerimise tehnikatest) arusaamaks selle vana tööriista kasutamist mille ohvriks paljud isegi kodus istudes langesid.
Näikeks Bulgaarias olles targemad kodanikud küll millegi üle ei imestanud kui 2007'st rääkisime nedega. Mitte ühegi detaili osas. Samas puudus neil kibestus ja viha sest nad juba said aru, et just seda neilt kõige enam soovitaksegi, nad ei allu provakatsioonidele. - Ehk nad ei allu, ´neile´.
seda mäletada mille mäletamist sult nõutakse, selliselt, (see ka üks basic osa selliste väiksete operatsioonide osas) nende poolt kellele sa ei peaks alluma - milleks neile´ alluda?
Kuid eks ta ole paras pähkel nii mõnelegi siin kaks otsa kokku viia
See tundub eriline meile sest meie noorem generatsioon ei olnud siin maal midagi sellist kogenud ega ei viitsinud ennast ka muu maailma ja ajalooga kursis hoida (rääkimata lihtsamatest emotsioonidega manipuleerimise tehnikatest) arusaamaks selle vana tööriista kasutamist mille ohvriks paljud isegi kodus istudes langesid.
Näikeks Bulgaarias olles targemad kodanikud küll millegi üle ei imestanud kui 2007'st rääkisime nedega. Mitte ühegi detaili osas. Samas puudus neil kibestus ja viha sest nad juba said aru, et just seda neilt kõige enam soovitaksegi, nad ei allu provakatsioonidele. - Ehk nad ei allu, ´neile´.
seda mäletada mille mäletamist sult nõutakse, selliselt, (see ka üks basic osa selliste väiksete operatsioonide osas) nende poolt kellele sa ei peaks alluma - milleks neile´ alluda?
Kuid eks ta ole paras pähkel nii mõnelegi siin kaks otsa kokku viia
26 April 2011 13:02
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's link.
@ need kes hirmus ringi käivad siiani veel, et "ei tea millal järgmine kord tuleb"
- ja kui teaksid, siis oleksid vähem häiritud ja saaksid rahulolevalt ja rõõmsalt tänaval liigeldud või parke nauditud?
- ja kui teaksid, siis oleksid vähem häiritud ja saaksid rahulolevalt ja rõõmsalt tänaval liigeldud või parke nauditud?
26 April 2011 12:36
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's link.
siia otsa võiks veel ümiseda trubetski laulu kus ka ühed meeldejäävad õhtud need, meelest iial ei ununenud
26 April 2011 12:24
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's link.
Tihti loetakse erinevatest tektidest just seda välja mida lugeja loodab sealt leida. Ma ise püüan küll sedasi kirjutada, et ei tekiks väga suuri vale arusaami, ehk turvalise üleminekuga mitte rohkem kui kahes kihis, et suurem hulk inimesi järgmise arusaamani jõuaks.
Kuid see eelnev tekst vist pigem tekitas segadust paljudes seega soovitan selle kahesilmavahele jätta momendil :)
Kuid see eelnev tekst vist pigem tekitas segadust paljudes seega soovitan selle kahesilmavahele jätta momendil :)
26 April 2011 12:20
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's link.
Kus oli üldistus ?
26 April 2011 12:16
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's link.
Andestamatus ise on aga üks kindlatest viisidest kuidas ennast ketiotsas edasi hoida ning enda ´peremehi´ muhedalt naeratama panna :)
26 April 2011 12:13
Margus Meigo commented on Tarmo Kruusimäe's link.
Mis siin andestusest rääkida, tänada tuleb!
Muidugi korraldajaid ise (kes iganes nad ka on, ei ole vaja hakata piltidega enda fantaasiaid toitma liialt) - neid aga kes videol, nendele õnnetutele ma tunnen õrnalt kaasa ja mõtlen siin juba mitu aastat efektiivsemaid varjante välja kuidas neid päriselt aidata. See ju igale pimedalegi selge, et neil on abi vaja väga mitmes osas.
Ning kes sin ei näe siin võimalusi tänamiseks, et me silmadeni probleem lõpuks ometi jõudis. Või hoopistükkis puudub arusaam abivajajatele kaasa tundmiseks siis soovitan silmad avada, natukene unest korraks välja tulla ja siis aru saada - see üks kiiremaid võimalusi (ka emotsioonsest vanglast/kontrollist enda vabastamiseks)
:)
Muidugi korraldajaid ise (kes iganes nad ka on, ei ole vaja hakata piltidega enda fantaasiaid toitma liialt) - neid aga kes videol, nendele õnnetutele ma tunnen õrnalt kaasa ja mõtlen siin juba mitu aastat efektiivsemaid varjante välja kuidas neid päriselt aidata. See ju igale pimedalegi selge, et neil on abi vaja väga mitmes osas.
Ning kes sin ei näe siin võimalusi tänamiseks, et me silmadeni probleem lõpuks ometi jõudis. Või hoopistükkis puudub arusaam abivajajatele kaasa tundmiseks siis soovitan silmad avada, natukene unest korraks välja tulla ja siis aru saada - see üks kiiremaid võimalusi (ka emotsioonsest vanglast/kontrollist enda vabastamiseks)
:)
26 April 2011 12:11
Margus Meigo commented on Valentina VP's post.
You know, there newer was a problem to worry about :)
Was your flight back good?
Was your flight back good?
23 April 2011 12:47
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Simon's post.
Ma 22'ni projectil ja päevajooksul kätte saadav ainult väga hetkeks kui üldse. Annan teada kui tagasi ja muud käsil ei ole :)
18 April 2011 09:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ei ole imestada, et sellised talendid läbi selliste teede sünnivad :)
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyZEl8g2I7E running up that hill koos davidiga on ka üks lemmikuid mul :)
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyZEl8g2I7E running up that hill koos davidiga on ka üks lemmikuid mul :)
11 April 2011 09:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
One of the most original, successful and fascinating solo female pop artist in past 30 years.
Rolling the ball, rolling the ball, rolling the ball to me.
Rolling the ball, rolling the ball, rolling the ball to me.
They arrived at an inconvenient time.
I was hiding in a room in my mind.
They made me look at myself. I saw it well.
I'd shut the people out of my life.
So now I take the opportunities:
Wonderful teachers ready to teach me.
I must work on my mind. For now I realise:
Everyone of us has a heaven inside.
Them heavy people hit me in a soft spot.
Them heavy people help me.
Them heavy people hit me in a soft spot.
Rolling the ball, rolling the ball, rolling the ball to me.
They open doorways that I thought were shut for good.
They read me Gurdjieff and Jesu.
They build up my body, break me emotionally.
It's nearly killing me, but what a lovely feeling!
I love the whirling of the dervishes.
I love the beauty of rare innocence.
You don't need no crystal ball,
Don't fall for a magic wand.
We humans got it all, we perform the miracles.
Them heavy people hit me in a soft spot.
Them heavy people help me.
Them heavy people hit me in a soft spot.
Rolling the ball, rolling the ball, rolling the ball to me.
Rolling the ball, rolling the ball, rolling the ball to me.
Rolling the ball, rolling the ball...
Kate Bush - Hounds Of Love [Full DVD in one video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1hgijoSi4o
Kate Bush - Under Review [Full DVD in one video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOdBTF4NXvU
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Bush
Rolling the ball, rolling the ball, rolling the ball to me.
Rolling the ball, rolling the ball, rolling the ball to me.
They arrived at an inconvenient time.
I was hiding in a room in my mind.
They made me look at myself. I saw it well.
I'd shut the people out of my life.
So now I take the opportunities:
Wonderful teachers ready to teach me.
I must work on my mind. For now I realise:
Everyone of us has a heaven inside.
Them heavy people hit me in a soft spot.
Them heavy people help me.
Them heavy people hit me in a soft spot.
Rolling the ball, rolling the ball, rolling the ball to me.
They open doorways that I thought were shut for good.
They read me Gurdjieff and Jesu.
They build up my body, break me emotionally.
It's nearly killing me, but what a lovely feeling!
I love the whirling of the dervishes.
I love the beauty of rare innocence.
You don't need no crystal ball,
Don't fall for a magic wand.
We humans got it all, we perform the miracles.
Them heavy people hit me in a soft spot.
Them heavy people help me.
Them heavy people hit me in a soft spot.
Rolling the ball, rolling the ball, rolling the ball to me.
Rolling the ball, rolling the ball, rolling the ball to me.
Rolling the ball, rolling the ball...
Kate Bush - Hounds Of Love [Full DVD in one video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1hgijoSi4o
Kate Bush - Under Review [Full DVD in one video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOdBTF4NXvU
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Bush
11 April 2011 00:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
There is artist who perform as record company's want and there is artist who perform how they want and nothing more.
Thank You Kate
Thank You Kate
11 April 2011 00:08
Margus Meigo commented on Eve Arm's post.
ma saatsin sms-i kuid pole kindel kas õigel numbril, tahtsin teada kus liigute ja mis teete - pold kindel kas pubis või baaris jne
Kuid pole hullu, järgmine kord :)
Kuid pole hullu, järgmine kord :)
10 April 2011 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(warning in the end)
Have you try to walk on streets, among people, in nature, in home and not to think - at all? Stop every thought that come your mind and just go, trust your feet, trust Life. Isn't that a bit different experience then ordinary one?
( If you happen to get slight headache first - just take it easy, it's ok )
Have you try to relate every thought for every person as they would be your brother (or someone you love)? You can start to feel the Energy' if you really do it (might not feel easy first), you will be refuelled way better then red-bull or amphetamines ever could, you even do not need to sleep so much, wake up with no alarm. Just do not turn it in to thrill or the Depression is on the way...
WARNING:
Specially Deep depression might be on the way for people who belong to beliefs that force one to be thrilled or smiley/(fake?)happy, specially when people are around - this is as bad as it can get as you fooling yourself and hurting others (in the end) and if You believe what you believe you will most likely get what you believe later on (whatever they say in your scripture about lies or doing bad).. unless you come off it and drop the act.
If should Not force yourself to be happy, it can not be done, you should just realize.
Many do it actually, if you are not - why? What law says you Must be unhappy?
You are in the end the Master who makes grass green, or if you are magus you can make entire new universe if you want to, but how would you make it to be? What thoughts you would use, would you, you would, would you?
---
This is Conversations with my self, so you should not feel upset any way, after all You know it all, I know, you can disagree ∴)
Have you try to walk on streets, among people, in nature, in home and not to think - at all? Stop every thought that come your mind and just go, trust your feet, trust Life. Isn't that a bit different experience then ordinary one?
( If you happen to get slight headache first - just take it easy, it's ok )
Have you try to relate every thought for every person as they would be your brother (or someone you love)? You can start to feel the Energy' if you really do it (might not feel easy first), you will be refuelled way better then red-bull or amphetamines ever could, you even do not need to sleep so much, wake up with no alarm. Just do not turn it in to thrill or the Depression is on the way...
WARNING:
Specially Deep depression might be on the way for people who belong to beliefs that force one to be thrilled or smiley/(fake?)happy, specially when people are around - this is as bad as it can get as you fooling yourself and hurting others (in the end) and if You believe what you believe you will most likely get what you believe later on (whatever they say in your scripture about lies or doing bad).. unless you come off it and drop the act.
If should Not force yourself to be happy, it can not be done, you should just realize.
Many do it actually, if you are not - why? What law says you Must be unhappy?
You are in the end the Master who makes grass green, or if you are magus you can make entire new universe if you want to, but how would you make it to be? What thoughts you would use, would you, you would, would you?
---
This is Conversations with my self, so you should not feel upset any way, after all You know it all, I know, you can disagree ∴)
9 April 2011 14:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Actually psychopath's are really interesting beings http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/001998.html - http://www.oregoncounseling.org/Handouts/PsychopathicPersonality.htm (no irony here actually).
I have few studies planned with them in future - already many years ago.
Surely results will benefit everyone, it will not become another witch-hunt if we are tired of leftist, nazis, terrorisers, hackers and drug users. First at all they run many of the important sectors you see around, some of the jobs - average people just cant handle them alone, let's be honest. Also one just cant just run some punch of academic tests on them. It would be as childish as the tests they did with LSD/psychedelics to see how one reacts externally. What are we, like really, really stupid?
but
Everyone can be connected and united - we must just find the way that Wolfs are eaten and same time ... - well, in this contest it's maybe not the best example, you see.. not thinking again... :P
I have few studies planned with them in future - already many years ago.
Surely results will benefit everyone, it will not become another witch-hunt if we are tired of leftist, nazis, terrorisers, hackers and drug users. First at all they run many of the important sectors you see around, some of the jobs - average people just cant handle them alone, let's be honest. Also one just cant just run some punch of academic tests on them. It would be as childish as the tests they did with LSD/psychedelics to see how one reacts externally. What are we, like really, really stupid?
but
Everyone can be connected and united - we must just find the way that Wolfs are eaten and same time ... - well, in this contest it's maybe not the best example, you see.. not thinking again... :P
9 April 2011 05:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
It's so strange... if one is not slave to programmed emotions then sooner or later comes someone who starts to call one a emotionless robots not considering, that they themselves in fact might be slaves of emotions. But as we know - emotions and thinking clearly do not work so well together.
Of-course if one has no emotions and no love/awareness then we have 'useless droid' (or psychopath) so be a bit careful here.
& yes, depression is strong emotion and also pessimism, i would say.
Unless you are an special kind of artist who needs it for creative work (or at least they say so) or for some kind of self sadomasochistic experiment i would not recommend depression, specially for long periods - it's no greater value then drug or alcohol addiction :)
Of-course if one has no emotions and no love/awareness then we have 'useless droid' (or psychopath) so be a bit careful here.
& yes, depression is strong emotion and also pessimism, i would say.
Unless you are an special kind of artist who needs it for creative work (or at least they say so) or for some kind of self sadomasochistic experiment i would not recommend depression, specially for long periods - it's no greater value then drug or alcohol addiction :)
9 April 2011 04:53
Margus Meigo commented on Eve Arm's post.
Polegi pikka aega näinud, vb hüppan läbi :))
8 April 2011 22:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Full link to better quality, full movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi0zYbubpq8 (15 min parts)
8 April 2011 12:21
Margus Meigo commented on Michel Bauwens's link.
There so many things, one calls evil, or censorship, control or reprogramming population to sift global consciousness in to needed direction - that can be done legally, so 'victims' them-selves help you with smiley faces or hard work - it's in a way scary.
But then again, as some spiritual entertainers & philosophers have told for long time "People do not want to wake up, they do not want truth, they do NOT want to be happy".
It's true, it's easy to test if one doubts.
We want desired things/people/job we think will bring us happiness - and continue sleeping.
One might argue - we are programmed/fooled to think this is happiness but how do you explain black white supremacist that one is in fact - black? One will think it's at best conspiracy against him or he has lost he's mind and will look help from asylum. It will not please one how ever you choose to break the news.
So yeah, in a way it's easy to blame facebook as then we do not need to look at ourself.
---
Does anyone have info how many hours people in total spend on TV & on facebook, in Internet?
Let's hope they spend some of it to http://www.letsdoitworld.org/lets-do-it/world-cleanup-2012
But then again, as some spiritual entertainers & philosophers have told for long time "People do not want to wake up, they do not want truth, they do NOT want to be happy".
It's true, it's easy to test if one doubts.
We want desired things/people/job we think will bring us happiness - and continue sleeping.
One might argue - we are programmed/fooled to think this is happiness but how do you explain black white supremacist that one is in fact - black? One will think it's at best conspiracy against him or he has lost he's mind and will look help from asylum. It will not please one how ever you choose to break the news.
So yeah, in a way it's easy to blame facebook as then we do not need to look at ourself.
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Does anyone have info how many hours people in total spend on TV & on facebook, in Internet?
Let's hope they spend some of it to http://www.letsdoitworld.org/lets-do-it/world-cleanup-2012
8 April 2011 12:15
Margus Meigo commented on Michel Bauwens's link.
Organized spam & troll squads is basic arsenal in information/cyber/consciousness war ages.
To bad i have not screetshoots with me any-more from 2007 when Estonia was under cyberwar-test, should have uploaded them.
Even the advertisement networks are basic part of it as one gets valuable info from there - statistical, psychological & intellectual. + some other algorithms that can be used by intelligence services so that ad-networks even do not understand how they are used. But ofcourse .. there is always option to buy needed companys or to get needed professionals work inside there:)
But all is not lost, far from it... :)
To bad i have not screetshoots with me any-more from 2007 when Estonia was under cyberwar-test, should have uploaded them.
Even the advertisement networks are basic part of it as one gets valuable info from there - statistical, psychological & intellectual. + some other algorithms that can be used by intelligence services so that ad-networks even do not understand how they are used. But ofcourse .. there is always option to buy needed companys or to get needed professionals work inside there:)
But all is not lost, far from it... :)
8 April 2011 11:29
Margus Meigo commented on Michel Bauwens's link.
first time i got banned was after i posted one terroriser picture up. Then i got a violation of term notice as they told "there is a weapon in the picture" (or maybe it was my comment that ticked them off "I had no idea that terrorisers like to play piano in the mountains" )
Soon as i got my account open i changed my profile picture to not be in violation any-more: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1015323620093&set=a.1538241892723.2077795.1135161043&theater
But it might have been coincidence and nothing to do with my, errors happen, after all - i am still here!
(Thank You who it my concern;)
Soon as i got my account open i changed my profile picture to not be in violation any-more: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1015323620093&set=a.1538241892723.2077795.1135161043&theater
But it might have been coincidence and nothing to do with my, errors happen, after all - i am still here!
(Thank You who it my concern;)
8 April 2011 10:52
Margus Meigo commented on Michel Bauwens's link.
strange happenings from facebook yes...
Few years back when i was politically more active, my account was closed 2 times (re-opened after few letters with facebook, thankfully). Up to this day i am banned from the FB advertising network. All the pages administrate my me, i get "violaton of terms" error. Needles to say i haven't run any ad campaigns here with my account - so i wonder what terms i have broken :)
My home country page i own, i am all together banned for posting despite the fact that i co-administrate it with former prime minister & one other member from parliament.
Few years back when i was politically more active, my account was closed 2 times (re-opened after few letters with facebook, thankfully). Up to this day i am banned from the FB advertising network. All the pages administrate my me, i get "violaton of terms" error. Needles to say i haven't run any ad campaigns here with my account - so i wonder what terms i have broken :)
My home country page i own, i am all together banned for posting despite the fact that i co-administrate it with former prime minister & one other member from parliament.
8 April 2011 10:50
Margus Meigo commented on Teve Floren-Kadak's photo.
Kuid jah.. sa vajaksid pikema-ajalist puhkust looduses & päikest, ilma, et ühegile kohustusele mõtleksid
8 April 2011 10:00
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
All good Prentice but one should be careful to not turn it in to desire. If one is going meditation to go after Nirvana just to experience it, - well, might as well just eat MDMA - or some other drugs that produce Nirvana like state . If that's all we want, if we do not want to wake up - just some comfort and fun, as so many of us do.
And well, there is nothing wrong with mdma or some other things if it will be stepping stone not just final goal to feel good, and even then, who are we to say
And well, there is nothing wrong with mdma or some other things if it will be stepping stone not just final goal to feel good, and even then, who are we to say
8 April 2011 00:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Enne kui ma sulle vastama hakkan Leili Rooden - kas sa vaatasid terve selle filmi (mitte selle lõigu) ära ja arvasid see tüüpiline olevat ?
7 April 2011 15:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
There is always well hidden intelligence as i am sure one has also heard saying "The one who knows does not say"
As you can see, me in my ignorance still facebooking actively :)
Mr. Crowley, what went down in your head
(Oh) Mr. Crowley, did you talk to the dead
Your lifestyle to me seems so tragic
With the thrill of it all
You fooled all the people with magic
(Yeah)You waited on Satan's call
Mr. Charming, did you think you were pure
Mr. Alarming, in nocturnal rapport
Uncovering things that were sacred, manifest on this earth
(Oh)Conceived in the eye of a secret
Yeah, they scattered the afterbirth
Solo
Mr. Crowley, won't you ride my white horse?
Mr. Crowley, it's symbolic of course
Approaching a time that is classic
I hear that maidens call
Approaching a time that is drastic
Standing with their backs to the wall
(Solo)
Was it polemically sent?
I wanna know what you meant
I wanna know
I wanna know what you meant, yeah!
Solo...
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Do, you ?
As you can see, me in my ignorance still facebooking actively :)
Mr. Crowley, what went down in your head
(Oh) Mr. Crowley, did you talk to the dead
Your lifestyle to me seems so tragic
With the thrill of it all
You fooled all the people with magic
(Yeah)You waited on Satan's call
Mr. Charming, did you think you were pure
Mr. Alarming, in nocturnal rapport
Uncovering things that were sacred, manifest on this earth
(Oh)Conceived in the eye of a secret
Yeah, they scattered the afterbirth
Solo
Mr. Crowley, won't you ride my white horse?
Mr. Crowley, it's symbolic of course
Approaching a time that is classic
I hear that maidens call
Approaching a time that is drastic
Standing with their backs to the wall
(Solo)
Was it polemically sent?
I wanna know what you meant
I wanna know
I wanna know what you meant, yeah!
Solo...
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Do, you ?
7 April 2011 13:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Did the one we are talking about went door to door trying to trick and force people to fallow ones ways? Was ones methods disguised as simple and delightful easy-going soft spiritual practices? Aren't in most cases people the ones who hurt themselves if they cant get what they want? Was this quote about ones flaws or accomplishments?
Is it really our business to walk back in illusionary history and start to judge complicated character person life path based on anecdotal information we interpret according to our own emotions and understanding or should we try to learn what we can and take our own road?
These are just few questions that are on my mind - maybe they benefit others also some ways.
Is it really our business to walk back in illusionary history and start to judge complicated character person life path based on anecdotal information we interpret according to our own emotions and understanding or should we try to learn what we can and take our own road?
These are just few questions that are on my mind - maybe they benefit others also some ways.
7 April 2011 13:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Here is full movie: My Dinner With Andre - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXZMwcNNvrQ
7 April 2011 02:29
Margus Meigo commented on Jan van der Bij's post.
Warm greetings from chilly Estonia Jan!
Good to see You here as well, will keep in touch ∴)
Good to see You here as well, will keep in touch ∴)
7 April 2011 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on Teve Floren-Kadak's photo.
yes, but not only :)
7 April 2011 00:27
Margus Meigo commented on Teve Floren-Kadak's photo.
Tell us about it :)
6 April 2011 22:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
And all this - is cute, nice side of freedom' :)
6 April 2011 22:38
Margus Meigo commented on Prentice Reid's photo.
It's so strange, that Alan Watt's explains Karma more clearly what it more likely is then Lama, this is really confusing for me. There is many interesting posts in your profile i havens thought before relating to Lama, maybe it's game in a higher level?
6 April 2011 22:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Of-course I want to Anna! :))
6 April 2011 22:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Exuses exuses exuses deal breaker
6 April 2011 21:40
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
When 2 people become an agreement in Estonian, we say "they found a same/commom tongue" (tongue is an language)
So this is perfect example how 2 skinheads finally understood why they hang around with a bold head dudes dressed in leather boots - Skinnid leidsid ühise keele :)
We will make story out of it with a friend, this picture is perfect, thank you! :*
So this is perfect example how 2 skinheads finally understood why they hang around with a bold head dudes dressed in leather boots - Skinnid leidsid ühise keele :)
We will make story out of it with a friend, this picture is perfect, thank you! :*
6 April 2011 21:36
Margus Meigo commented on Teve Floren-Kadak's photo.
Lady in Red :)
6 April 2011 13:51
Margus Meigo commented on Sepp Hasslberger's link.
It went a bit in to other reality channel but we can handle, everything is needed for something :)
6 April 2011 12:36
Margus Meigo commented on Sepp Hasslberger's link.
Makavele, Well, as Estonian i say - the game is not any-more about a-bombs - the game is in much more higher levels. Well, actually it has newer been about bombs as people with special rituals & skills have been part of departments with so high level secrecy that even the secrecy was/is an secret - from the people who work in the organization's. From the beginning.
Few country's was a kind of slow with understanding that power is not in the bombs. They rushed to invest in to technology that bankrupt them more then anything else. Some actually still invest in to physical war technology - i wish good luck to them. Some think they are clever and invest a lot in to smokescreens.
There is no reason to be paranoid, any-more (then before).
Few country's was a kind of slow with understanding that power is not in the bombs. They rushed to invest in to technology that bankrupt them more then anything else. Some actually still invest in to physical war technology - i wish good luck to them. Some think they are clever and invest a lot in to smokescreens.
There is no reason to be paranoid, any-more (then before).
6 April 2011 12:29
Margus Meigo commented on Erkki Kildvee's post.
How one assumes that I am awake, here? :)
6 April 2011 11:57
Margus Meigo commented on Sepp Hasslberger's link.
Today's world the photos they do with computer help are medically much more meaningful then the ones they used from 40's called aura/Kirlian photos. Now we can actually take it as science not something mystic. How we transfer this science to actual knowledge, how we understand, translate it - is other question.
6 April 2011 11:43
Margus Meigo commented on J-tin Hunks Aq's photo.
yes
6 April 2011 11:26
Margus Meigo commented on J-tin Hunks Aq's photo.
To Estonian money or to Euros?
6 April 2011 11:26
Margus Meigo commented on J-tin Hunks Aq's photo.
I am interested, thank man :)
6 April 2011 01:33
Margus Meigo commented on Rob Thomas's post.
Blessings like that makes winter warm :)
5 April 2011 14:56
Margus Meigo commented on Rob Thomas's album.
Amazing photos !
Thank You for sharing!
Thank You for sharing!
5 April 2011 14:43
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
sõna " on " tähendus, omab erinevat arusaamu erinevate inimeste jaoks seega ei tasu kellegile soovitada, et to loobuks mõtlemast kuidas asjad " on " enne seda kui ei tea kuidas need tema jaoks - on :)
Ning soovitus koos selgitusega on kaugus millest edasi ei soovitaks tormama
Ning soovitus koos selgitusega on kaugus millest edasi ei soovitaks tormama
4 April 2011 19:55
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Ma usun, et sündmusi tuleks võibolla vaadata rohkem selisena nagu nad on mitte selliselt nagu neid kirjeldatakse.
Kui me ei tea Mis on siis kuidas me teame milliseks see saada võib?
Kui me ei tea Mis on siis kuidas me teame milliseks see saada võib?
4 April 2011 19:45
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Kõigpealt oli sõna... siis hakati erinevate meelte poolt sõna lahti mõtestama läbi enda keele, tähenduse, emotsioonide, mälestuste, kogemuste, teadmiste.
Hiljem hakati vaidlema selle üle kes sõna tähendusest õigemini aru saab.
Võibolla see kes aru ei saa, et sõnast ei saa ühtselt aru saada veel päris aru ei saa ja jätkab arusaamatut vaidlust teemal kuidas teine valesti aru saab.
See on igapäevane lugu mida keelte ja meelte segaduses enda ümber näeme
kuni aru saame
Hiljem hakati vaidlema selle üle kes sõna tähendusest õigemini aru saab.
Võibolla see kes aru ei saa, et sõnast ei saa ühtselt aru saada veel päris aru ei saa ja jätkab arusaamatut vaidlust teemal kuidas teine valesti aru saab.
See on igapäevane lugu mida keelte ja meelte segaduses enda ümber näeme
kuni aru saame
4 April 2011 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
Sometimes to understand the meaning of "fuck" one must hear it how it's said - it's one of the most colourful words as you know :)
4 April 2011 09:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
yes, you should know, there is few appearances of me:)
bdw - i will see You in the beginning of May, i hope you will have permission this time to spend some free time in the woods before my birthday ;)
bdw - i will see You in the beginning of May, i hope you will have permission this time to spend some free time in the woods before my birthday ;)
4 April 2011 09:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Tänks:)
Kuid tee nendega tutvust - ei tule kahjuks, usu mind :)
Kuid tee nendega tutvust - ei tule kahjuks, usu mind :)
3 April 2011 09:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
nuh, need seenenäod ju ongi ka karvased:p
3 April 2011 09:46
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Simon's post.
kes see pühapäeval vabatahtlikutl nii vara ülesse tõusta viitsib :P
Mul muidu loengud ja paar asja käsil enamuse pühapäevast... kuid kaheksaks peaks välja pingutama kyll yhte teist :)
Mul muidu loengud ja paar asja käsil enamuse pühapäevast... kuid kaheksaks peaks välja pingutama kyll yhte teist :)
3 April 2011 01:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Tead küll mind, pidevalt midagi käsil kuid samas midagi näha ei ole :P
gtalk :)
gtalk :)
1 April 2011 10:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Seadused muutuvad ise kui aeg õige, neid ei pea muutma. Me (õnneks) ei tegele ise seadustega - selleks on inimesed kes sellega tegelevad, iga üks oma liistude juures.
Kuid skypemee: WaffaD, nagu ikka, võta rahulikult :)
Kuid skypemee: WaffaD, nagu ikka, võta rahulikult :)
30 March 2011 22:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Maybe back then there was no other mayor religion to devalue some might wonder? Well - yes - and what is wrong with that? I think it's alright to talk about religion as long you do not question anyones beliefs.
Yoga dates more then 5000 years back according to RigVeda (some say 5k+ BC http://content.iskcon.com/icj/6_1/6_1klostermaier.html - Questioning the Aryan Invasion Theory and Revising Ancient Indian History, but of-course it's a bit hard to go back more then 6k years for many..)
But it's just how i see it, on my current channel - it can all change, I/we just need some tuning, in
Yoga dates more then 5000 years back according to RigVeda (some say 5k+ BC http://content.iskcon.com/icj/6_1/6_1klostermaier.html - Questioning the Aryan Invasion Theory and Revising Ancient Indian History, but of-course it's a bit hard to go back more then 6k years for many..)
But it's just how i see it, on my current channel - it can all change, I/we just need some tuning, in
30 March 2011 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Sometimes it seems to me like some people miss that all important aspects in Abraham based religions that undoubtedly, directly, make ordinary person 'better', healthier, calmer, wiser, more lovable person who can cooperate better in harmony, are covered in various Yoga systems right on the top as basics (pure mind, clean body, respect, no stealing, no violence.. ) but without the stories to dislike/devalue others beliefs or morals. I know it's also about lessons what not to do - but do we need so many of them if we can see how to be?
30 March 2011 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on Kristi Kotkas's photo.
Ajad mul siin päevaplaani/pea sassi oma piltidega mis feedis jooksevad:D
30 March 2011 15:32
Margus Meigo commented on Divvya Hariharan's post.
Damn ! :D
30 March 2011 14:59
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
One big happy family! : )
30 March 2011 14:50
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's post.
Teadmine mida tegelikult tahad elus -lõplikult & selle saavutamine :)
30 March 2011 14:36
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
elu ei saa ainult plaani järgi elada, vahepeal tuleb niisama ka trippida muidu lähevad kuulid kokku... nagu Timothy Leary ytles: to stay in your mind you need to go out from the mind time to time... muidugi alko, suits või masendus - need käsikäes käivad. Masendus väga enest hävitav asi, eriti ku isee valede meelemürkidega segada. Niisama trippida masenduses on aga vist päris piin..
Ahjaa - selleks peab muidu jah tugev inimene olema, et abi vastu võtta kui pakutakse, nõrgematel tuleb ego vahele peaaegu, et alati :)
Anyway, pikk jutt ...jutt :P Seega kui olukord on hea - siis annan teada :)
Ahjaa - selleks peab muidu jah tugev inimene olema, et abi vastu võtta kui pakutakse, nõrgematel tuleb ego vahele peaaegu, et alati :)
Anyway, pikk jutt ...jutt :P Seega kui olukord on hea - siis annan teada :)
30 March 2011 13:04
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
Nu SELLISEID tutvusi mida sa siiani otsinud oled, on viimane asi mis sul vaja on, VAHETA KANALIT, mees :)
irw@allar :D
irw@allar :D
30 March 2011 12:13
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
See on reis, tripp, väljaminek - mitte kulul elamine, tagasi tulles saad raudselt palju uusi vahvaid mõtteid ja tutvusi ja sellega seoses vb ka töö tutvusi - lisa tutvused ei tule pahaks :)
30 March 2011 12:11
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
Ära selle pärast muretse, see pole kulul elamine vaid kaasa tulemine, kui kellegil meil nii hästi minema peaks et saab teisele käe anda - siis see ju normaalne, ise teeksid sama :)
30 March 2011 12:04
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
Kui meil hästi läheb, siis sa iseei peagi mõtlema, siis mõtleme su eest :)
Juhul KUI läheb hästi :)
Juhul KUI läheb hästi :)
30 March 2011 12:00
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
Kuula natuke Alan'i viimaseid videosi mu profiilil siis näed. Tegu on päriselt ühe omaala tipuga valgete seas - kes oma jutud linti lasknud on, seega tasub kuulata (mul vanade postituste seas veel teda, ja yt's muidugi). Kuid teda tuleb PÄRISELT kuulata mitte kuulda. Vahest võtab 10+ korda, et mõnest asjast aru saada mida ta tegelt mõtleb
:)
(PS: ega meil kellegil ei ole praegu mitte midagi, sõna otseses mõttes - kuid ega see ei takista rõõmus olemast. Muretsedes, mustades mõtetes olles on väiksem tõenäosus, et midagi hästi läheb või tuleb, pea püsti Vennas, muutused tulevad kui natukenegi järjekindlalt uskuda nii endasse kui maailma ! )
Võta halbu asju kui treeningut ja õppetunde elus ja eluks :)
:)
(PS: ega meil kellegil ei ole praegu mitte midagi, sõna otseses mõttes - kuid ega see ei takista rõõmus olemast. Muretsedes, mustades mõtetes olles on väiksem tõenäosus, et midagi hästi läheb või tuleb, pea püsti Vennas, muutused tulevad kui natukenegi järjekindlalt uskuda nii endasse kui maailma ! )
Võta halbu asju kui treeningut ja õppetunde elus ja eluks :)
30 March 2011 11:52
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
Eks ta jah, Teatult maalt edasi minnes on tarkus suhteline.
Muidu mingi võiks kokku saada, pole sada aastat näinud. Mais vb allariga Venemaale lähme ühele suurele metsa üritusele, tule ka kaasa kui võimalus tekib selleks ajaks :)
Muidu mingi võiks kokku saada, pole sada aastat näinud. Mais vb allariga Venemaale lähme ühele suurele metsa üritusele, tule ka kaasa kui võimalus tekib selleks ajaks :)
30 March 2011 11:14
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
Kas sa pole tarka naist kohanud, targemat kui sa ise? (oma vanust)
30 March 2011 02:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
No, but on the morning after the Depression a man came to work building a house and the foreman said to him "Sorry chum you can't work today, there ain't no inches." He said "What do you mean there ain't no inches?" "Yeah" he said, "Yeah, we got lumber, we got metal, we even got tape measures." The foreman said "The trouble with you is you don't understand business. There are no inches. We have been using too many of them and there's not enough to go around."
Because what happened in the Great Depression was a slump in money. Human beings are so unbelievably stupid, that they confused money with wealth. They don't realize that money is a measure of wealth, in exactly the same way that meters are a measure of length. They think it is something that is valuable in and of itself. And as a result of that get into unbelievable trouble, in exactly the same way time is nothing but an abstract measure of motion.
And we keep counting time. We have the sensation time is running out, and we bug ourselves with this as we sit and watch the clock. Supposing you are working, are you watching the clock? If you are, what are you waiting for? Time off? Five o'clock, we can go home and have fun? Yeah, fun. What are you going to do when you get home? Have fun? Or are you going to watch TV, which is an electronic reproduction of life which doesn't even smell of anything and eat a TV dinner which is a kind of a warmed over airline nastiness until you just get tired and have to go to sleep. You know, the great society.
This is our problem you see. We are not alive, we are not awake. We are not living in the present."
*This speech was slightly edited for clarification.
Full Speech: http://www.scribd.com/doc/5468658/FROM-TIME-TO-ETERNITY-By-Alan-Watts
Because what happened in the Great Depression was a slump in money. Human beings are so unbelievably stupid, that they confused money with wealth. They don't realize that money is a measure of wealth, in exactly the same way that meters are a measure of length. They think it is something that is valuable in and of itself. And as a result of that get into unbelievable trouble, in exactly the same way time is nothing but an abstract measure of motion.
And we keep counting time. We have the sensation time is running out, and we bug ourselves with this as we sit and watch the clock. Supposing you are working, are you watching the clock? If you are, what are you waiting for? Time off? Five o'clock, we can go home and have fun? Yeah, fun. What are you going to do when you get home? Have fun? Or are you going to watch TV, which is an electronic reproduction of life which doesn't even smell of anything and eat a TV dinner which is a kind of a warmed over airline nastiness until you just get tired and have to go to sleep. You know, the great society.
This is our problem you see. We are not alive, we are not awake. We are not living in the present."
*This speech was slightly edited for clarification.
Full Speech: http://www.scribd.com/doc/5468658/FROM-TIME-TO-ETERNITY-By-Alan-Watts
29 March 2011 19:34
Margus Meigo commented on Allar Kaljundi's link.
Timo - kui kas mehed on siis targemad kui kassid ? Või naised?
29 March 2011 19:25
Margus Meigo commented on Sepp Hasslberger's link.
This is great, i had something like that in mind also - and now, it's out there! Changes are coming fast! :))
28 March 2011 16:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Songs like that & others, will stay, is needed, as long as needed, for many, for some. There is many channels to explore - specially our own
The paranoia is in bloom
The P.R. transmissions will resume
They'll try to push drugs, keep us all dumbed down
And hope that we will never see the truth around
So come on
Another promise, another scene, another
Packaged lie to keep us trapped in greed with all the
Green belts wrapped around our minds and endless
Red tape to keep the truth confined, so come on
They will not force us
And they will stop degrading us
And they will not control us
We will be victorious, so come on
Interchanging mind control
Come let the revolution take its toll
If you could flick a switch and open your third eye
You'd see that we should never be afraid to die
So come on
Rise up and take the power back
It's time the fat cats had a heart attack
You know that their time is coming to an end
We have to unify and watch our flag ascend
So come on
They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious, so come on
Hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey, hey
They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious, so come on!
_-_-_-
You think we need more weapons for that? What kind, is the question
You think we need more money for that? More from what?
You think we need more tec for that?
... what you think - who is the tec? Who do we need?
Stop this illusion that You are not able to change the world, no but's, no excuses, no complicated history or economic stories - stop it all, understand, YES WE CAN
(Yes we can, have new meaning for the expressions - also)
And who is 'they' - Let's find them! Maybe they want to help US but do not know how to communicate? For that there is global mind translator...
The paranoia is in bloom
The P.R. transmissions will resume
They'll try to push drugs, keep us all dumbed down
And hope that we will never see the truth around
So come on
Another promise, another scene, another
Packaged lie to keep us trapped in greed with all the
Green belts wrapped around our minds and endless
Red tape to keep the truth confined, so come on
They will not force us
And they will stop degrading us
And they will not control us
We will be victorious, so come on
Interchanging mind control
Come let the revolution take its toll
If you could flick a switch and open your third eye
You'd see that we should never be afraid to die
So come on
Rise up and take the power back
It's time the fat cats had a heart attack
You know that their time is coming to an end
We have to unify and watch our flag ascend
So come on
They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious, so come on
Hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey, hey
They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious, so come on!
_-_-_-
You think we need more weapons for that? What kind, is the question
You think we need more money for that? More from what?
You think we need more tec for that?
... what you think - who is the tec? Who do we need?
Stop this illusion that You are not able to change the world, no but's, no excuses, no complicated history or economic stories - stop it all, understand, YES WE CAN
(Yes we can, have new meaning for the expressions - also)
And who is 'they' - Let's find them! Maybe they want to help US but do not know how to communicate? For that there is global mind translator...
28 March 2011 16:51
Margus Meigo commented on Alari Leidsalu's post.
Ma mai'ks ka sinna seal päris suur psy üritus :)
28 March 2011 16:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Someone decides that this is to much of an info and filed a complaint with Youtube, i will get new copy and upload it to more places.
28 March 2011 16:11
Margus Meigo commented on Kristi Kotkas's album.
Mitte päris, me lihtsalt tuletasime Sulle meelde Su hea tuju :)
28 March 2011 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on Kristi Kotkas's album.
Selle albumi nägemine sarnaneb meditatsioonile :)
28 March 2011 00:49
Margus Meigo commented on RAJA YOGA Facil's link.
või et.. 'really easy to learn'
Hmm
Hmm
27 March 2011 23:48
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Andersen's link.
We will be ! ! ! :))
27 March 2011 12:09
Margus Meigo commented on Janar Einula's post.
sure :D
25 March 2011 13:30
Margus Meigo commented on Tery McCade's photo.
Let's meet up some time in near future - there might be few concepts we can integrate to the uniting code, as i told you before - let me know (msg) :)
24 March 2011 21:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
xD tänks :P
Kuid yea, oli selline aeg kui 17 olin :)
Kuid yea, oli selline aeg kui 17 olin :)
24 March 2011 13:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Maiken, Maiken Tulev on (nüüd) nimi. Tal peaks suht hästi olema, elab tallinnas. Kohtusin ta vennaga ka alles mõned päevad tagasi :)
24 March 2011 12:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Is that a pot handbook on the counter?
24 March 2011 12:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
wtf, AOL ? Yes, everything is needed for something :)
24 March 2011 11:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Mariaanidel :)
24 March 2011 10:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Jup :)
23 March 2011 00:24
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
Mõlemad omadused peavad ühes olema v?
21 March 2011 16:55
Margus Meigo commented on Fahmi King King's note.
You, God, Love & how your Life is going - is all not so separate, we just sometimes make it so.
There is substances that are showing You Love and substances that will direct You to other ways, there are Ways that take you to Love and there is ways that will take you not - You are Master of self of what You will be for Yourself & for others
Peace, brother
There is substances that are showing You Love and substances that will direct You to other ways, there are Ways that take you to Love and there is ways that will take you not - You are Master of self of what You will be for Yourself & for others
Peace, brother
21 March 2011 16:55
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Nu ühed on sõbrad - teised on tuttavad ja kolmandad on kontaktid, kõike on vaja :)
21 March 2011 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on Classic Nkosi's post.
But is work & Life is good?
Do not forget to shape your multi-language skills - they will come handy, their is always wonderful paths open for different languages !
Do not forget to shape your multi-language skills - they will come handy, their is always wonderful paths open for different languages !
21 March 2011 14:25
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
Mis on TAO - autode orjenteerumine
Wau, valged inimesed ei väsi kunagi üllatamast oma originaalsuse ja sügavamõtteliste ümbermõtestamistega, deep & clear :D
Wau, valged inimesed ei väsi kunagi üllatamast oma originaalsuse ja sügavamõtteliste ümbermõtestamistega, deep & clear :D
20 March 2011 17:50
Margus Meigo commented on Classic Nkosi's post.
I am on the Way - Bongani, but Life by the nature is always on going :)
How have you been? Have been doing some more travelings or planing to take part some EU programs ?
How have you been? Have been doing some more travelings or planing to take part some EU programs ?
19 March 2011 14:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
It's said by that Alan was "godfater of Zen" for westerners after D. T. Suzuki (鈴木 大拙 貞太郎).
As a Westerner, Watts anticipates the stumbling blocks encountered with such concepts as emptiness and no-mind, then illustrates with flawlessly apt examples. Many popular books have been written on Zen since Watts' time, but few have been able to muster the rare combination of erudition and clarity that have kept The Way of Zen in readers' hands decade after decade. ( -Brian Bruya, Amazon)
As a Westerner, Watts anticipates the stumbling blocks encountered with such concepts as emptiness and no-mind, then illustrates with flawlessly apt examples. Many popular books have been written on Zen since Watts' time, but few have been able to muster the rare combination of erudition and clarity that have kept The Way of Zen in readers' hands decade after decade. ( -Brian Bruya, Amazon)
19 March 2011 14:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
On, on küll, Jumala tuttav :)
19 March 2011 11:15
Margus Meigo commented on Andy FJ C's photo.
Ma vaatasin mul yle 17 000 pildi albumis... ei oska otsida sealt vb :D
18 March 2011 18:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Rest will go to Kadris albums once she takes time to upload .)
18 March 2011 17:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Sasha, Thank You! You make be blush!
Same back to You and... I think everything is possible, we will meet if we put our mind on it :)
Same back to You and... I think everything is possible, we will meet if we put our mind on it :)
18 March 2011 17:48
Margus Meigo commented on Andy FJ C's photo.
Anneli - send it to me, pliis :P
18 March 2011 16:07
Margus Meigo commented on Katrina Helstein's post.
Supper, teatsin, et saad hakkama:))
18 March 2011 14:32
Margus Meigo commented on Katrina Helstein's post.
Vaata kas sul on ad-plock plus vms addon peal. Võid proovida ka firefoxi adon freelt käivtada startmenüüst (safe mode)
18 March 2011 13:47
Margus Meigo commented on Katrina Helstein's post.
See küll imelik - ma usun, et see vb browseri süü. Äkki sul reklaami plokkia plokeeris ära selle reklaami pähe? Proovi teist browserit korra (www.opera.com ) ja vaata kas seal on sama probleem. See install käib ühe likiga - väga lihtne
18 March 2011 13:38
Margus Meigo commented on Katrina Helstein's post.
Tervist Katrina.
kas mõtled, kuidas tagasi muuta oma profiili pilti eelmiseks facebooki profiili pildiks mis sul oli?
kas mõtled, kuidas tagasi muuta oma profiili pilti eelmiseks facebooki profiili pildiks mis sul oli?
18 March 2011 13:34
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's note.
Vahest on ka spetsialiste kes oma spetsiaalsetesse oskustes pidevalt sees, et on rohkem ja rohkem muid olulisi enam elus ei näe. Programeeriad kes näevad asju koodis, arstid kes näevad inimesi organitena, psüholooge kes näevad inimesi diagnoosidena, marketingi inimesed kes... well, jne
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few"
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few"
17 March 2011 23:42
Margus Meigo commented on Justin Wright's post.
i hope it's a irony at max
15 March 2011 08:51
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's photo.
Neuro-linguistic programming?
14 March 2011 20:52
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Okey, vabandasid välja :P
14 March 2011 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
Jup, rohkem kvaliteet saateid, ei jõua ära oodata
14 March 2011 20:05
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
Take look at hes personal webiste also, not bat at all :)
14 March 2011 17:27
Margus Meigo commented on Ralph Abraham's post.
Will try to make it. When the registration is ending? :)
14 March 2011 16:54
Margus Meigo commented on Ralph Metzner's post.
I have been working also on this idea, everything is possible :)
14 March 2011 16:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The London Symphony Orchestra : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Af372EQLck&playnext=1&list=PL21D50FEA27D62981 -
Can anyone find The Berlin Philharmonic version composed by Herbert Von Karajan online, not itunes?
Can anyone find The Berlin Philharmonic version composed by Herbert Von Karajan online, not itunes?
14 March 2011 16:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kes siis veel:D
14 March 2011 15:32
Margus Meigo commented on Students for Sensible Drug Policy's post.
Great to see this kind of increase!
We are also working on one global 'multi-dimensional educational project'/new-social network - let us know if it sounds something you would like to help with :)
We are also working on one global 'multi-dimensional educational project'/new-social network - let us know if it sounds something you would like to help with :)
14 March 2011 15:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Tahtmine on üksasi, mis on - on aga tihtipeale sellest sõltumata teine asi:)
14 March 2011 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ainukesed tõelised raskused nägemaks, et me kõik ühendatud oleme seisavad teadvuse taga mis otsib ainult lõputul hulgal põhierinevusi
14 March 2011 15:21
Margus Meigo commented on Magnus Taylor's post.
Group: Royal African Society
This will not be easy but also not as impossible as it seems for many - changes are coming, also changes in the international community mind set, hopefully fast enough14 March 2011 15:00
Margus Meigo commented on Magnus Taylor's link.
This will not be easy but also not as impossible as it seems for many - changes are coming, also changes in the international community mind set, hopefully fast enough
14 March 2011 15:00
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Hendrik Ilves's link.
Veel pole jõudnud
14 March 2011 14:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
eip, kuigi see ka päris huvitav lisa on - tänks :)
14 March 2011 14:26
Margus Meigo commented on Birgit Kermes's post.
see liiga hea, nii need anekdoodid sünnivad :D
14 March 2011 14:05
Margus Meigo commented on Toomas Hendrik Ilves's link.
Väärt töö, väärt tunnustus!
Õnne ja edu kõigile tegijatele!
Õnne ja edu kõigile tegijatele!
14 March 2011 14:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
it was interesting to see some older yt comments that instead enjoying the beauty of the music was commenting about their personal complexes and insecurities - why would anyone want to spend their time to 'this kind' of negativity?
Are there no personal help lines/centers for anyone struggling from homophobia to xenophobia ? Are they so hard to find or are all the workers/lines busy so people need to come in on-line communities like YouTube & forums to express their fears?
Todays thought besides thinking out some basic concepts in new system that might be able (if it's adopted) at least partly replace the Nastaq (and cocaine usage that comes with systems like that) was how to handle with these few sad people struggling in a fears (or negative past) in a way everyone is pleased.
It does not matter if one wants to be in one or other side of light - one should face their fears and Fear to see what is on the other side .
of rainbow;)
---
& so - proof: everything IS/was needed, including all the hateful (fearful) & ignorant comments in Internet.
Thank You!
Are there no personal help lines/centers for anyone struggling from homophobia to xenophobia ? Are they so hard to find or are all the workers/lines busy so people need to come in on-line communities like YouTube & forums to express their fears?
Todays thought besides thinking out some basic concepts in new system that might be able (if it's adopted) at least partly replace the Nastaq (and cocaine usage that comes with systems like that) was how to handle with these few sad people struggling in a fears (or negative past) in a way everyone is pleased.
It does not matter if one wants to be in one or other side of light - one should face their fears and Fear to see what is on the other side .
of rainbow;)
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& so - proof: everything IS/was needed, including all the hateful (fearful) & ignorant comments in Internet.
Thank You!
14 March 2011 13:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kusjuures välja mõtlesin farmwille kasulikuse, mul vaja developerite käest ainult saada teatud statistilist infot ning see uute systeemi kanda:)
Tõestus - midagi pole kasutut:)
Tõestus - midagi pole kasutut:)
14 March 2011 13:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
hahha :D
14 March 2011 01:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(more from DEPAPEPE http://www.youtube.com/user/depapepe0 & from their cover band TOTAPEPE : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG0betEKEzc&playnext=1&list=PLBFEE5B853DDC79EF )
14 March 2011 01:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
farmwille & mafiawars - ning kasulikus suures plaanis mis ületab kahjulikuse
14 March 2011 01:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Also do not forget: http://www.facebook.com/Erowid.Org
13 March 2011 23:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
@Anne-Mari Anderson jup - need on need tehislikud asjad mis veel juurde mõeldakse elu keerulisemaks tegemiseks :)
13 March 2011 22:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ikka :)
13 March 2011 12:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
uksed avatud :)
13 March 2011 12:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
st mitte teist vaid ainult yhte õiget külge
13 March 2011 12:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See ka päris hea, lihtsalt vb mu enda keeleline bias mulle tundub see ing keeles ikka natukene teist külge peegeldavalt sellel filosoofial kui see mis mul mõtetes.
sõnad "benefit" "good for" tunduvad nagu ise kõla poolest kuidagi selle tava materiaalsest maailmast kaugemad ja paremini sobivamad olevat. See peaks sobima nii mateeria, tunnete kui juhtumiste kohta. keep it up .P
sõnad "benefit" "good for" tunduvad nagu ise kõla poolest kuidagi selle tava materiaalsest maailmast kaugemad ja paremini sobivamad olevat. See peaks sobima nii mateeria, tunnete kui juhtumiste kohta. keep it up .P
13 March 2011 12:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
See suund peaks olema just, et mitte me peaksime kõike kasutama - suunaline, kuid et me pole aru saanud milleks osad asjad on (juba kasutuses, või tulevikus kasutatakse - mateeriast kuni galbade ideeni välja, milleks miski asi hea on) ning arvame, et nad on kasutud. Kas ing keeles see "haven't found a use for" annab sama välja ing keeles?
13 March 2011 12:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ei ole kasutuid asju, on asju mille kasutusest me ei ole veel aru saanud
13 March 2011 12:07
Margus Meigo commented on Horace Zontal's link.
You have been founded!
11 March 2011 13:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
He is so cute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HA4lSUhlbw :)
11 March 2011 13:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
In the world of marketing - it needs to be promoted - A LOT. As Windows is build on "first market, then release, then sale, then update, then market, then fix, then market" - in this world, we can not stand-by and wait people to be enlightened with Kernel over night out from nothing.
As most people are not concerned (should they be?) how the picture ends up on their TV screen - they just want to see what they want to see with occasionally hope of surprise and laugh (greetings to my dog, the kewlest cat in the block, Microsoft Bob, okey... maybe i should leave ebonics for the professionals - i mean it, really we should. ).
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& As long we keep thinking this is only way to change channels aren't the changes coming.. a bit slow ?
But embarrassment is one state where we usually learn fastest, most important lessons, for life.
It is all one big progress, no reasons for cry - everything was good for something, do we want to invest the time to find all the proofs for this basic Life Truth or move on?
As most people are not concerned (should they be?) how the picture ends up on their TV screen - they just want to see what they want to see with occasionally hope of surprise and laugh (greetings to my dog, the kewlest cat in the block, Microsoft Bob, okey... maybe i should leave ebonics for the professionals - i mean it, really we should. ).
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& As long we keep thinking this is only way to change channels aren't the changes coming.. a bit slow ?
But embarrassment is one state where we usually learn fastest, most important lessons, for life.
It is all one big progress, no reasons for cry - everything was good for something, do we want to invest the time to find all the proofs for this basic Life Truth or move on?
11 March 2011 13:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
It is! :)
11 March 2011 12:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Horace ૐ Zontal Time will fix the funds & mistakes With a Little Help from Our Friends http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmOtWyjs8iU
Positive thinking, ya know! ;)
Positive thinking, ya know! ;)
11 March 2011 12:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Rain - just to be a little fair on Windows users - its not entirely their fault and to be hones - Windows Users just Want to have Fun - Also. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIb6AZdTr-A Will it be blissful everyday ignorance or high level, daily strategical government mission - Users all just want in the end system to be easy & working. IT people need to do just that and not bite their feeding had. We are the ones to blame if they cant find way to us.
11 March 2011 12:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Rain, i know - articles like that http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/06/linux_vs_windows_viruses/ just should make most people to think... but where is The Most People?
// thinking out loud... //
They might have got lost somewhere between buying the computer, shiny labels, choices presented and bad IT recommendations from salesman. We should find them. All
// thinking out loud... //
They might have got lost somewhere between buying the computer, shiny labels, choices presented and bad IT recommendations from salesman. We should find them. All
11 March 2011 12:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Horace, I think fb will be 'alternative' not to far away in future, evolution needs to go forward :)
11 March 2011 11:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I had fun in last 10+ years - trying to find easy and safe solutions for (specially) Windows end users while everyone told it was - impossible, unless users start to pay attention in this world, what they do and who does them.
It IS actually possible - but is it worth the energy and effort? Imho, we should spend our life on other things.
It IS actually possible - but is it worth the energy and effort? Imho, we should spend our life on other things.
11 March 2011 11:21
Margus Meigo commented on Selene Gnadenteich's post.
Sander :)
lahe oli temaga, filosofeerisime elust jne. Üle poole ajast vähemalt chillisin temaga vist :)
lahe oli temaga, filosofeerisime elust jne. Üle poole ajast vähemalt chillisin temaga vist :)
10 March 2011 19:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
oota aga seal vist mingi asi, et ei saa ühendusi näha teiste puudega kui ei maksa vms?
10 March 2011 19:03
Margus Meigo commented on Selene Gnadenteich's post.
jahe nagu Eestigi kuid laeva peal olevad inimesed oli põhiline :))
10 March 2011 10:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kuidas muidu elu läinud teil seal on?
9 March 2011 16:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Someone was wondering, why would i announce thing like that on my public wall ? Well, if i would do it in secrecy then later it would be a "conspiracy" and besides it would be against my beliefs - to be afraid at "them" :)
I also want everyone to know that if you are in my contact list, then there is a reason for that - it's your choice what you can make out of it.
& if someone was wondering, then no - it would not be just another social networking site like you have seen before.
I also want everyone to know that if you are in my contact list, then there is a reason for that - it's your choice what you can make out of it.
& if someone was wondering, then no - it would not be just another social networking site like you have seen before.
9 March 2011 14:50
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
ma pean veel paari asja oma graafikus uurima enne ja paika panema natuke, siis saan öelda kas saan teie meeldiva seltskonnaga kindlalt liituda :)
9 March 2011 14:43
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
I am pretty much in :)
9 March 2011 14:37
Margus Meigo commented on Sepp Hasslberger's post.
Well, now you do :)
i will keep in touch with you!
i will keep in touch with you!
9 March 2011 00:22
Margus Meigo commented on Moira Paulse's post.
Durban is pretty big? How far it is from home, seems like long ride?
8 March 2011 23:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sama ka Eestlastele :)
8 March 2011 22:49
Margus Meigo commented on Moira Paulse's post.
Greetings Moira!
I have been doing great - life has so much to offer, sometimes it's hard to choose. How is family ?
I have been doing great - life has so much to offer, sometimes it's hard to choose. How is family ?
7 March 2011 13:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Väga hea on tõesti! :)
3 March 2011 21:06
Margus Meigo commented on Sandra Kari's link.
Sul on täiesti õigus endast väljas olla kuid ära unusta - KEELATA ei tohiks me midagi siin ilmas, kohe kindlasti peale mingit vanuse ületamist. Harima peame lapsi, sõpru, tuttavaid ja mitte toetama neid ' jõude ' kes tegelevad ebameeldivustega - siis nad peagi kaovad jäljetult. Ma kunagi ka vihkasin meediat kuid nüüd aru saanud, et ta suures osas lihtsalt peegeldab seda mida mingi grupp näha soovib - ning sellega kaasa minnes (ehk ikka neid jaamu, lehti ja programme tarbides) me ütleme: JAH, PALUN VEEL! Ning muidugi siis neile kellel ei ole välja kujunenud arusaam mis on sobiv ja mis mitte me anname sõnumi: SEE ONGI ÕIGE, NII TEHAKSE, NII PEAB. Ka siis kui me proovime muu sõnumiga seda halba näidata - pea ükski meediakajastus (sh. sotsiaalmeedia) ei ole halb selle jaoks kes proovib iga hinna eest kajastatud saada .
Seega lõpuks saame ainult ennast süüdistada kui me harimise suunas tõisemaid samme ei võta ning ei hakka protesteerima asjade vastu mis meid veel tuimemateks ja julmemateks robotiteks programeerivad
Ärge unustage: Keelamine enamasti ei ole parim lahendus
Seega lõpuks saame ainult ennast süüdistada kui me harimise suunas tõisemaid samme ei võta ning ei hakka protesteerima asjade vastu mis meid veel tuimemateks ja julmemateks robotiteks programeerivad
Ärge unustage: Keelamine enamasti ei ole parim lahendus
3 March 2011 16:29
Margus Meigo commented on Sandra Kari's link.
Tegelt on suht kurb mõelda mis nende inimeste peas toimub kes selliseid videosi teevad ja promovad. Eriti jube on vaadata veel neid videosi kus nad vahest piina ja tapatalge lavastanud on, et eriti graafiline oleks (nö "varjatud kaameratega"). Üks selline kampaania oli koertega seotud kus veel tagatipuks nad hunniku raha teiste südamepinadelt kokku ajasid endale. Kuid eks nad õpivad parimatelt (war on terror, war on drugs...) - muidugi viimased on piisavalt kavalad, et rohkem valedele, hirmule ning võlts progressile rõhku panna.
Kuid mis teha, eks lõppude lõpuks saab igaüks ise oma moraalide suhtes lõppotsuse teha milline käitumine on õigem. Kui keegi arvab, et psüholoogiline terror, õudus ja himutamine (miinus tegelik kasulik informatsoon tervise kohta) on kõige parem moodus siis mul jääb üle ainult mitte nõustuda.
Kuid mis teha, eks lõppude lõpuks saab igaüks ise oma moraalide suhtes lõppotsuse teha milline käitumine on õigem. Kui keegi arvab, et psüholoogiline terror, õudus ja himutamine (miinus tegelik kasulik informatsoon tervise kohta) on kõige parem moodus siis mul jääb üle ainult mitte nõustuda.
3 March 2011 13:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Quiz is working well, re-tested again :)
lol @ Ola :P
lol @ Ola :P
3 March 2011 12:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Full link: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Estonia/13485602046?sk=app_179703598738197
2 March 2011 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's link.
Eestlased eelistavad vist Nimeta Baari ja Holliwoodi rohkem endiselt, tundub :(
1 March 2011 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's link.
ArtCafee on kinni, õues on kylm & valimis hullus täies hoos. Kuid meeled head ja lootust täis :)
1 March 2011 15:22
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's link.
Jup, See päris ammu oli olemas kui to ikka ja alati väärt jagamist. Kuidas eluke läheb teil seal?
1 March 2011 14:43
Margus Meigo commented on Kadri Andersen's link.
Indiid, ma selle aeglasema/pikema versooni ka ylesse lükkan hiljem
25 February 2011 12:44
Margus Meigo commented on Davivid Rose's post.
Thank You! Great work you have done directed me to you i guess :)
24 February 2011 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Can You imagine, faster then computer? But we all have brain, don't we? We do not need to calculate Pi to this extent but there is 'tools' to tune ur brain..
_ in Estonian:
Wikist: Ta suudab peast neljandat juurt arvutada kiiremini kui kalkulaator.
Peale selle on tal anne ka keelte peale. Ta valdab inglise, prantsuse, soome, sa...ksa, hispaania, leedu, islandi, esperanto ja eesti keelt. Daniel on võimeline uut keelt omandama suhtlustasandil nädala ajaga. Talle meeldib väga eesti keel oma vokaalirohkuse pärast.
Oma päris perekonnanime hoiab ta saladuses, nime Tammet võttis ta eesti keelest, sest nimi kõlab hästi.
Daniel Tammet koostab uut keelt mänti, millel on ühisjooni soome ja eesti keelega. Näiteks mänti keeles on sõnad nagu "päike" (päike), "ema" (ema), "päive" (päev), "ela" (elu).
Eesti keeles on ilmunud Daniel Tammeti memuaarid: "Sündinud sinisel päeval"
_ in Estonian:
Wikist: Ta suudab peast neljandat juurt arvutada kiiremini kui kalkulaator.
Peale selle on tal anne ka keelte peale. Ta valdab inglise, prantsuse, soome, sa...ksa, hispaania, leedu, islandi, esperanto ja eesti keelt. Daniel on võimeline uut keelt omandama suhtlustasandil nädala ajaga. Talle meeldib väga eesti keel oma vokaalirohkuse pärast.
Oma päris perekonnanime hoiab ta saladuses, nime Tammet võttis ta eesti keelest, sest nimi kõlab hästi.
Daniel Tammet koostab uut keelt mänti, millel on ühisjooni soome ja eesti keelega. Näiteks mänti keeles on sõnad nagu "päike" (päike), "ema" (ema), "päive" (päev), "ela" (elu).
Eesti keeles on ilmunud Daniel Tammeti memuaarid: "Sündinud sinisel päeval"
23 February 2011 04:51
Margus Meigo commented on Mihail Iordache's photo.
I wonder what is cooking? :)
23 February 2011 04:19
Margus Meigo commented on Konstantinos Spatiotis's photo.
Is that wicked cool pic or what :)
23 February 2011 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
He was actually born with another surname, which he prefers to keep private, but decided to change it by deed poll. It didn't fit with the way he saw himself. "I first saw 'Tammet' online. It means oak tree in Estonian, and I liked that association. Besides, I've always had a love of Estonian. Such a vowel rich language."
23 February 2011 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on Getter Salus's link.
See sõbralik väga õnnelik maavärin. Inimesed peaksid rõõmsad olema, et nende jaoks see tavline protsess mis maakeral alati olnud nii hästi läks
22 February 2011 17:47
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Killo's photo.
WOU! :)
22 February 2011 17:04
Margus Meigo commented on Mihail Iordache's post.
Heey Mihai!
I got message from Chantel that You meet, wonderful!
(did you meet the Moira & Freddy family also?)
Huggs from me!
I got message from Chantel that You meet, wonderful!
(did you meet the Moira & Freddy family also?)
Huggs from me!
18 February 2011 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Hine's link.
Cracked newer get's old :)
14 February 2011 19:36
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
Pole paha :D
14 February 2011 18:53
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: What the BLEEP do we know?
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Decriminalize All Psychedelics. Now!
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: ~Free Your Mind~
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Drop acid, not bombs.
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies Fans
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Paranormal, Spirituality & Metaphysics
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Occult Knowledge
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: POSITIVE PEOPLE
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Humanity & Earth Shift
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: 2012 - Earth Changes
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)
14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: POSITIVE PEOPLE
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies Fans
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: What the BLEEP do we know?
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: ~Free Your Mind~
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Drop acid, not bombs.
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Decriminalize All Psychedelics. Now!
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Humanity & Earth Shift
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Occult Knowledge
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: 2012 - Earth Changes
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Everything and All happen in right moment. Thank You :)
14 February 2011 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Martin: See on alles algus, tuleb aega pikendada kui tundub viimast napib ;)
9 February 2011 05:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I wonder what was the spell on 6:02 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCE4ogftFAk :)
9 February 2011 04:11
Margus Meigo commented on Marika Kunks Moor's post.
Things like that should be written personally to a person not cut & paste as useless spam that have actually no real emotional value compared to the original one. If it takes "to much time" then this person is not even worth a 1 minute of your - take it like that.
The initial would make more sense if it would be more like: "re-post it magical x number because it's magical voo-doo thing i believe in so i want you to do it also so i feel better about my self"
& then IMPORTANT part: "now write here something personal/original about this person who's wall you spam with this activism"
& then can have some more "if you do this then believe you will get X or if you do not do it then i honestly believe that X will happen. Now i want you to be superstitious and think about this all your fallowing days and try to find a reason to to this joke that some lonely person started few years ago"
Ära isiklikult võta, väljendan lihtsalt oma emotsjoone kui vabatahtlikku spämmi näen (K)
The initial would make more sense if it would be more like: "re-post it magical x number because it's magical voo-doo thing i believe in so i want you to do it also so i feel better about my self"
& then IMPORTANT part: "now write here something personal/original about this person who's wall you spam with this activism"
& then can have some more "if you do this then believe you will get X or if you do not do it then i honestly believe that X will happen. Now i want you to be superstitious and think about this all your fallowing days and try to find a reason to to this joke that some lonely person started few years ago"
Ära isiklikult võta, väljendan lihtsalt oma emotsjoone kui vabatahtlikku spämmi näen (K)
9 February 2011 01:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Arvustus postimehes:
http://www.postimees.ee/?id=380394
http://www.postimees.ee/?id=380394
8 February 2011 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
It's anti facebook village - some of them had Rate.ee before but after bad experience with it they decided to go and unplug all the fiber cables from the.
They still have WifFi to update the situation in Twitter with iPhones
They still have WifFi to update the situation in Twitter with iPhones
8 February 2011 01:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
It's, Estonia down-town
8 February 2011 00:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
One more interesting torrent You can take a look: http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/120242357/ - This is huge occult & wisdom torrent - some names inside torrent are dangerous for beginners so use with caution, others are safe - like Robert Anton Wilson & many other philosophers. :)
7 February 2011 23:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Laura Lee Radio - DMT, Dr. Rick Strassman, Stephen Mehler, Chris Dunn, John Cadman, John Major Jenkins, Tom Rutlin, Richard Thompson, The Yugas and Vedic Chronology, Sacred Geometry, Flower of Life, Drunvelo Melchizedek, Secret Gnostic Teachings, Peter Gandy, Timothy Freke, Val Valerian
Psychedelic Salon - Alex Grey, David Icke, Daniel Pinchbeck, Burning Man, Dr. Gary Fisher, Christian Raetsch, Palenque Ruins,Earth & Firem, Drug Geeks, Shulgin Sasha - Natural vs Synthetic, Shulgin Ann - Shadow
John Trudell, KLOS, Joseph Matheny, Al Franke, Hunter Thompson, Charles Goyette, Iraq War summary, Jack Herer, Jan Irvin, Hemp, Shamanism and the Occult, Mike Hagen, KPFK, James Collier, Lawrence Lessig, Napster 9th Circle Oral Argument, Orders to Kill MLK, William F Pepper, RBN Investigative Journal, Greg Szymanski, John Peeler, Micheal Talbot, The Mystery Babylon, Bill Cooper, Walter Bowart , Way Of The Warrior - Cliff Benton
and more
Use uTorrent program to download - it's free, safe & clean. 300+ hours and more to listen in one collected pack :)
Psychedelic Salon - Alex Grey, David Icke, Daniel Pinchbeck, Burning Man, Dr. Gary Fisher, Christian Raetsch, Palenque Ruins,Earth & Firem, Drug Geeks, Shulgin Sasha - Natural vs Synthetic, Shulgin Ann - Shadow
John Trudell, KLOS, Joseph Matheny, Al Franke, Hunter Thompson, Charles Goyette, Iraq War summary, Jack Herer, Jan Irvin, Hemp, Shamanism and the Occult, Mike Hagen, KPFK, James Collier, Lawrence Lessig, Napster 9th Circle Oral Argument, Orders to Kill MLK, William F Pepper, RBN Investigative Journal, Greg Szymanski, John Peeler, Micheal Talbot, The Mystery Babylon, Bill Cooper, Walter Bowart , Way Of The Warrior - Cliff Benton
and more
Use uTorrent program to download - it's free, safe & clean. 300+ hours and more to listen in one collected pack :)
7 February 2011 23:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Alan Watts, Carl Jung, Bill Hicks, Bruce Lipton, Colonal L. Fletcher Prouty, Daniel Sheehan, Dave Emory, Graham Hancock, Jack Herer & James Arthur, John Taylor Gatto, Jon Rappoport, John Steele, Jordan Maxwell, Manly P Hall, Michael Parenti, Richard C Hoagland, Art Bell - Robert Morning Sky, Stanislov Grof, Stephen Mehler, Dennis McKenna, Terence Mckenna
Best of Radio Shows:
Bill Hicks - Tribute with Alex Jones and Kevin Booth, Alex Jones Show, Allan Watt,
Coast To Coast - Al Bielik, Chris Conrad on Art Bell, Deepak Chopra, Dr Albert Taylor, Dr. Michio Kaku, John Hutchinson, John Perkins , Mark DeMucha, David Sereda, Remote Viewing and Perception Studies - Ingo Swann,
Guns and Butter - JFK, Indira Singh, Jim Hoffman, Webster G Tarpley, Michel Chossudovsky. Jeff Rense Show - Charlotte Iserbyt, Jon De Pew, Dr. Udo Uramus, Eric John Phelps, Jeff Rense, John Hogue, Leland Lehrman, Crime And Politics.
Best of Radio Shows:
Bill Hicks - Tribute with Alex Jones and Kevin Booth, Alex Jones Show, Allan Watt,
Coast To Coast - Al Bielik, Chris Conrad on Art Bell, Deepak Chopra, Dr Albert Taylor, Dr. Michio Kaku, John Hutchinson, John Perkins , Mark DeMucha, David Sereda, Remote Viewing and Perception Studies - Ingo Swann,
Guns and Butter - JFK, Indira Singh, Jim Hoffman, Webster G Tarpley, Michel Chossudovsky. Jeff Rense Show - Charlotte Iserbyt, Jon De Pew, Dr. Udo Uramus, Eric John Phelps, Jeff Rense, John Hogue, Leland Lehrman, Crime And Politics.
7 February 2011 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfocK7bYkes
Film ise visuaalselt ja audio poolest suht hästi ülesse ehitatud selliselt, et inimese endal süü mõte ülesse tuleks eriti kui seda mitte analüütiliselt vaadata. Autorid teavad, et kõik kes selle ekraani taga lõpetavad on süüdi. Ükski vaataja pole erand. See elementaarne teadmine kuid paljud meist valivad "wau" efekti. Teema on muidugi ka liiga venitatud kuid mõned inimesed kellele seal filmis vähe sõna antakse annavad see eest mõne lausega päris palju olulist edasi.
Minu arust veider, et yhe nii vana ja elementaarse põhitõe peale panna silt ja CopyRight külge. http://www.vidoevo.com/yvideo.php?debbie-ford-signing-the-shadow-effect-contract=&i=YUl0T3N3cWuRpak9acVE
- rikkuse ja Rikkusega kaasneb ka mingi moraali tunnetus mida müüd edasi teed ( isegi kui rikkaks või Rikkaks saadi mitte moraalsel teel - nagu see enamasti on )
Kui kuulata mõned täis pikkuses Alan Wattsi & R.A. Wiltsoni loenguid (mida on kümneid netis tasuta) saad lugematul hulgal rohkem wisdomit. Aja möödudes, uuesti kuulates avastad rohkem ja rohkem...
Life is Play
Film ise visuaalselt ja audio poolest suht hästi ülesse ehitatud selliselt, et inimese endal süü mõte ülesse tuleks eriti kui seda mitte analüütiliselt vaadata. Autorid teavad, et kõik kes selle ekraani taga lõpetavad on süüdi. Ükski vaataja pole erand. See elementaarne teadmine kuid paljud meist valivad "wau" efekti. Teema on muidugi ka liiga venitatud kuid mõned inimesed kellele seal filmis vähe sõna antakse annavad see eest mõne lausega päris palju olulist edasi.
Minu arust veider, et yhe nii vana ja elementaarse põhitõe peale panna silt ja CopyRight külge. http://www.vidoevo.com/yvideo.php?debbie-ford-signing-the-shadow-effect-contract=&i=YUl0T3N3cWuRpak9acVE
- rikkuse ja Rikkusega kaasneb ka mingi moraali tunnetus mida müüd edasi teed ( isegi kui rikkaks või Rikkaks saadi mitte moraalsel teel - nagu see enamasti on )
Kui kuulata mõned täis pikkuses Alan Wattsi & R.A. Wiltsoni loenguid (mida on kümneid netis tasuta) saad lugematul hulgal rohkem wisdomit. Aja möödudes, uuesti kuulates avastad rohkem ja rohkem...
Life is Play
7 February 2011 15:57
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
jõhker :D
6 February 2011 16:39
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Mcrom's video.
Thank You :)
Looks promising :)
Looks promising :)
6 February 2011 16:37
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
mis kiirusel see oli muidu?
6 February 2011 14:30
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Liiv's post.
Kui soovite siis antke mulle teada - annan teile nii ta filmi Varjuefekt tasuta kui ka Tema täis 12 tunnilise kursuse (mis ka paar tonni maksab - see "Debbie Ford Shadow Online Course") koos raamatuga.
Lisaks võin juba ette ära öelda, et olge natuke ettevaatlik selle suhtes mida sealt saate, ei pruugi päris see olla mida loodate.
Mõelge ise, kui tõelist armastust müüakse raha eest ja millised tegelased teevad seda tavaliselt? Kui inimene NII valgustatud päriselt on selle valguse poolt mis vaja siis ta annab kõik sulle tasuta (eriti kui ta miljonär on) - tänapäeval on võimalik isegi tasuta jagades pisavalt raha teha... kuid muidugi siis SEE skeem ei töötaks... :)
Lisaks võin juba ette ära öelda, et olge natuke ettevaatlik selle suhtes mida sealt saate, ei pruugi päris see olla mida loodate.
Mõelge ise, kui tõelist armastust müüakse raha eest ja millised tegelased teevad seda tavaliselt? Kui inimene NII valgustatud päriselt on selle valguse poolt mis vaja siis ta annab kõik sulle tasuta (eriti kui ta miljonär on) - tänapäeval on võimalik isegi tasuta jagades pisavalt raha teha... kuid muidugi siis SEE skeem ei töötaks... :)
6 February 2011 05:38
Margus Meigo commented on Ka Re Na's post.
It's ok Karen :)
5 February 2011 21:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Karen, there is so much Love in You, You are so much Greater. Why spoil it with words/emotions like this - in here.
Of-course You desrve it and so much more, it's nothing to do with the situation! Know it's not personal - just boor time management, staying to much in my mind and some more.
There is not jet uploaded any pictures of my brothers & sisters, parents, many friends and loved ones. Most of the pictures are tagged by other people or are from the projects as you can see. Don't get me wrong - All this does not make it all alright now from your view point. But i do hope it gives a small beam of light in to your perception.
It might sound strange but after i saw you returned to facebook few days ago i almost asked about the pictures...
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Thank You! - For giving me energy to start to work on pictures organizing as i have forwared it forever.
Of-course You desrve it and so much more, it's nothing to do with the situation! Know it's not personal - just boor time management, staying to much in my mind and some more.
There is not jet uploaded any pictures of my brothers & sisters, parents, many friends and loved ones. Most of the pictures are tagged by other people or are from the projects as you can see. Don't get me wrong - All this does not make it all alright now from your view point. But i do hope it gives a small beam of light in to your perception.
It might sound strange but after i saw you returned to facebook few days ago i almost asked about the pictures...
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Thank You! - For giving me energy to start to work on pictures organizing as i have forwared it forever.
5 February 2011 18:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Muide ma just avastasin, et see vist esimene poliittooniline promo mille oma lehele postitanud olen (isegi kui see täielikult polnud sedasi algselt planeeritud). Kuid kasuage siis "share" nuppu ja jagage edasi. Nagu ütlesin, pipar tundub päris heas vahekorras olevat.
Jäi kõrvu veel selline ütelus "... mis teha, ma suhkrut ei jaga!" :)
Jäi kõrvu veel selline ütelus "... mis teha, ma suhkrut ei jaga!" :)
4 February 2011 14:22
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
Yeah, it's not healthy to deny your other self
3 February 2011 17:00
Margus Meigo commented on Bobby Bel's post.
Group: The Brotherhood Of Eternal Love
"He believes he made about 140 million hits of acid over the course of his drug-making career" - more heroes like that are needed, but after 2001 it does not look so promising.
Now when with Internet, people would be so ready, all over the world - the production of high quality is at minimum.3 February 2011 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on Bobby Bel's link.
"He believes he made about 140 million hits of acid over the course of his drug-making career" - more heroes like that are needed, but after 2001 it does not look so promising.
Now when with Internet, people would be so ready, all over the world - the production of high quality is at minimum.
Now when with Internet, people would be so ready, all over the world - the production of high quality is at minimum.
3 February 2011 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on Dāju King's post.
Group: Psychedelic Research
Would love to gome, will do my best to be there :)3 February 2011 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on Dāju King's link.
Would love to gome, will do my best to be there :)
3 February 2011 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on Joy James's post.
Group: Hackers.
I am sure it's good for newbie's... to learn how to hack other people fb accounts and fucks someone & girfriend accounts up instead learning something useful :)3 February 2011 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on Divvya Hariharan's photo.
Tallinna Püha Vaimu kirik - something 1300+ and rebuild in 15 century. Not to sure.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heiliggeistkirche_(Tallinn) / http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallinna_P%C3%BCha_Vaimu_kirik
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heiliggeistkirche_(Tallinn) / http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallinna_P%C3%BCha_Vaimu_kirik
3 February 2011 00:56
Margus Meigo commented on Divvya Hariharan's photo.
Tallinna Niguliste Kirik - y 1230. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Nicholas'_Church,_Tallinn / http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallinna_Niguliste_kirik :)
3 February 2011 00:47
Margus Meigo commented on Divvya Hariharan's photo.
yes, always blame the flash.. :P
3 February 2011 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on Divvya Hariharan's photo.
These cherry-threes are part of 200 threes that Japanese gift for us and they are planted here as symbol for our friendship. We hope that with these threes also grows Japanese-Estonian circle of friendship.
Japanese-Estonia Friends fellowship :)
Japanese-Estonia Friends fellowship :)
3 February 2011 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on Divvya Hariharan's photo.
They sharing there sweet-spicy almounds (curry powder, cardamom, ginger, peppers, cinnamon, clove, nutmeg, cayenne - and many more depends if they make salty or sweet ones. http://www.mandel.ee/en/salty-almonds.html )
You liked these? Was you able to go to Olde Hansa ? Their foods are one of the best in Old Town :)
You liked these? Was you able to go to Olde Hansa ? Their foods are one of the best in Old Town :)
3 February 2011 00:20
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Ree's link.
Sa olid vist lisaks muule veel ka köögis päris osav kui õigesti mäletan :)
2 February 2011 23:42
Margus Meigo commented on Valdo Tamm's post.
Miks küll sellist spämmi teiste inimeste lehtedele lasta? Inimsed võiksid ikka kontrollida ka mis spämmi nende profiil välja saadab
2 February 2011 23:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Kui juba reklaamiks läks siis mainin ka tema raamatu „Aserbaidžaani kirjad” http://www.herkel.net/?menu_id=179&mainmenu_id=0 ära mis tal kaasas oli. Päris hea mulje jättis.
Kui lugenud ei ole, siis kindlasti leiad üht-tesit millega oma arvamusi ja arusaamu veel täiendada :)
Kui lugenud ei ole, siis kindlasti leiad üht-tesit millega oma arvamusi ja arusaamu veel täiendada :)
2 February 2011 23:10
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIgzeSlOIwc see, suht kurb kuid hea lugu :)
2 February 2011 22:18
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
eip, kuid ammu polnud kuulnud seda. Kunagi seoses Klouni lauluga leitsin :)
2 February 2011 22:17
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
awww..:)
2 February 2011 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on Wikileaks's post.
Well, maybe it go's same way as it went with Time magazine
2 February 2011 21:25
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
lol, okey I belive You then :P
2 February 2011 20:56
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
It's yours? :)
2 February 2011 20:51
Margus Meigo commented on Janar Einula's link.
Väga satiiriline ning samas visuaalselt tugev pilt. Vahest tuleb paar kallast meelega ülesse künda, et sõnumit edasi anda. Kunst nõuab ohvreid.
See, et nissan juba mudasena tuli, oli ka loodetavasti osa skriptist mitte nurjunud filmivõtete süü
See, et nissan juba mudasena tuli, oli ka loodetavasti osa skriptist mitte nurjunud filmivõtete süü
2 February 2011 16:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I am glad you like :)
1 February 2011 11:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
& http://www.amazon.com/When-Drummers-Were-Women-Spiritual/dp/0609801287 When the Drummers Were Women: A Spiritual History of Rhythm (Layne Redmond)
From Library Journal
A drummer herself who has taught and performed on the frame drum for many years, Redmond has written an engaging work on the history and meaning of female drumming in ancient spiritual traditions. She bases her work on her travels to ancient sites and other research, tracing the role of sacred drumming from as far back as the Paleolithic era (in the worship of the "Great Mother" or "Great Goddess") and in ancient civilizations in the Near East, India, Greece, and Rome. Along the way, she unearths the first representation of a framed drum at Catal Huyuk (in present-day Turkey), ca. 5600 B.C.E. Redmond even takes us through the rise of Christianity, which silenced both women and drumming in worship, then concludes with the reappearance of drumming in the modern age and its importance as a medium for transformation. Well documented, with an excellent bibliography, this multifaceted study will have great appeal for all readers and especially for music and women's studies collections
From Booklist
Women's spirituality circles have taken to drumming in a big way. Redmond has been a leader in reintroducing the frame drum, which, she persuasively argues, has been an instrument of spiritual transformation for millennia. Her marvelous book brings together mythology, history and prehistory, personal experience, musical lore, and scientific information on the healthful effects of drumming. Scores of illustrations show stately goddesses holding frame drums, wild maenads tossing their heads as they pound, and priestesses sanctifying space with the rhythms they beat. Redmond's own story of learning drumming in a society in which women are still actively discouraged from taking up the drums is a paradigm of female experience. Wise and passionate, Redmond's book will find a ready audience, made up not only of those who have attended her popular workshops but also of other women drawn to the ecstatic pulse of the drum. Patricia Monaghan
From Library Journal
A drummer herself who has taught and performed on the frame drum for many years, Redmond has written an engaging work on the history and meaning of female drumming in ancient spiritual traditions. She bases her work on her travels to ancient sites and other research, tracing the role of sacred drumming from as far back as the Paleolithic era (in the worship of the "Great Mother" or "Great Goddess") and in ancient civilizations in the Near East, India, Greece, and Rome. Along the way, she unearths the first representation of a framed drum at Catal Huyuk (in present-day Turkey), ca. 5600 B.C.E. Redmond even takes us through the rise of Christianity, which silenced both women and drumming in worship, then concludes with the reappearance of drumming in the modern age and its importance as a medium for transformation. Well documented, with an excellent bibliography, this multifaceted study will have great appeal for all readers and especially for music and women's studies collections
From Booklist
Women's spirituality circles have taken to drumming in a big way. Redmond has been a leader in reintroducing the frame drum, which, she persuasively argues, has been an instrument of spiritual transformation for millennia. Her marvelous book brings together mythology, history and prehistory, personal experience, musical lore, and scientific information on the healthful effects of drumming. Scores of illustrations show stately goddesses holding frame drums, wild maenads tossing their heads as they pound, and priestesses sanctifying space with the rhythms they beat. Redmond's own story of learning drumming in a society in which women are still actively discouraged from taking up the drums is a paradigm of female experience. Wise and passionate, Redmond's book will find a ready audience, made up not only of those who have attended her popular workshops but also of other women drawn to the ecstatic pulse of the drum. Patricia Monaghan
1 February 2011 02:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
More reading: http://www.amazon.com/Dawn-Behind-Search-Earthly-Paradise/dp/080501070X Geoffrey Ashe
In recent years, there has been considerable reexamination of prehistoric artifacts in terms of a feminist or woman-centered perspective arguing that pre-patriarchal societies were peaceful, matrifocal societies. This book continues the debate. Ashe examines a variety of themes: the belief in a golden age where harmony and peace flouirished; the belief that there was an Ancient Wisdom that has been lost, discarded, or degraded; the power of shamanism, treated in a particularly interesting chapter; and the cross-cultural regard for numbers. This well-researched book draws on the writings of mainstream archaelogy as well as those of modern goddess worshippers. Appropriate for large libraries where there is interest in prehistory, archaelogy, and goddess worship.
From Kirkus Reviews
A lively, scholarly detective story in which Ashe (The Discovery of King Arthur, 1985, etc.) turns his inquisitive eye on the possible truth of a prehistoric Golden Age. The conviction that a paradise existed in ages past is such a tenacious one in many religious traditions (as well as in legend and folklore) that Ashe suggests there may indeed be a ``missing link'' from our current accounts of the origins of civilization and culture. Tentatively refuting the traditional assumption that the cultures of the Middle East and Mycenae filtered northward into ``barbaric'' Europe and North Asia, Ashe instead suggests that at least one major seedbed may have existed in the northern Altai mountain range near the intersection of Mongolia, the USSR, and China. What began as a collection of Stone Age hunters and gatherers may have developed (according to scant evidence dating back to as far as 24,000 B.C.) into a society of horse herders who maintained a rough state of intersexual balance; worshipped nature via shamans likely to be female; sifted the Siberian sands for gold for sacred objects; and formed a center of artistic and religious diffusion that would eventually drift southward to influence the Greek and Israelite cultures and perhaps even Native American religious customs. As Ashe points out, this ancient society may have inspired such concepts as, among others, the idea of a ``sacred mountain to the north,'' the ``magic'' properties of the number seven, the sacred symbolism of the bear, and the Altaic Goddess herself, who may have been the model for the Greeks' Artemis. ``This discussion is not a conclusion,'' Ashe says, ``it is a challenge.'' Nevertheless, he makes an intriguing case for an Altaic paradise. (Sixteen illustrations--not seen.)
In recent years, there has been considerable reexamination of prehistoric artifacts in terms of a feminist or woman-centered perspective arguing that pre-patriarchal societies were peaceful, matrifocal societies. This book continues the debate. Ashe examines a variety of themes: the belief in a golden age where harmony and peace flouirished; the belief that there was an Ancient Wisdom that has been lost, discarded, or degraded; the power of shamanism, treated in a particularly interesting chapter; and the cross-cultural regard for numbers. This well-researched book draws on the writings of mainstream archaelogy as well as those of modern goddess worshippers. Appropriate for large libraries where there is interest in prehistory, archaelogy, and goddess worship.
From Kirkus Reviews
A lively, scholarly detective story in which Ashe (The Discovery of King Arthur, 1985, etc.) turns his inquisitive eye on the possible truth of a prehistoric Golden Age. The conviction that a paradise existed in ages past is such a tenacious one in many religious traditions (as well as in legend and folklore) that Ashe suggests there may indeed be a ``missing link'' from our current accounts of the origins of civilization and culture. Tentatively refuting the traditional assumption that the cultures of the Middle East and Mycenae filtered northward into ``barbaric'' Europe and North Asia, Ashe instead suggests that at least one major seedbed may have existed in the northern Altai mountain range near the intersection of Mongolia, the USSR, and China. What began as a collection of Stone Age hunters and gatherers may have developed (according to scant evidence dating back to as far as 24,000 B.C.) into a society of horse herders who maintained a rough state of intersexual balance; worshipped nature via shamans likely to be female; sifted the Siberian sands for gold for sacred objects; and formed a center of artistic and religious diffusion that would eventually drift southward to influence the Greek and Israelite cultures and perhaps even Native American religious customs. As Ashe points out, this ancient society may have inspired such concepts as, among others, the idea of a ``sacred mountain to the north,'' the ``magic'' properties of the number seven, the sacred symbolism of the bear, and the Altaic Goddess herself, who may have been the model for the Greeks' Artemis. ``This discussion is not a conclusion,'' Ashe says, ``it is a challenge.'' Nevertheless, he makes an intriguing case for an Altaic paradise. (Sixteen illustrations--not seen.)
1 February 2011 00:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
In fact, women have been at the forefront of this field worldwide, and in some cultures, they predominate. This was true in ancient China and Japan, as it still is in modern Korea and Okinawa, as well as among many South African peoples and northern Californians such as the Karok and Yurok. There are countless other examples, including the machi of the Mapuche in southern Chile and the babaylan and catalonan of the Philippines.
Images, oral traditions, and historical descriptions show women as invokers, healers, herbalists, oracles and diviners, ecstatic dancers, shapeshifters, shamanic journeyers, and priestesses of the ancestors. The Chinese Wu were ecstatic priestesses who danced to the music of drums and flutes until they reached trance, receiving shen (spirits) into their bodies, healing and prophesying under their inspiration, speaking in tongues, swallowing swords and spitting fire. The power of the shen gathered around the whirling dancers was said to cause objects to rise into the air, to prevent wounds from forming when the dancers slashed themselves with knives.
... read more. http://www.suppressedhistories.net/articles/womanshaman.html
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http://taoism.about.com/od/history/a/shamanic.htm
". Millet was most likely their first grain cultivated; rice and corn and wheat coming later. Evidence exists that they were also potters and musicians, and that they produced the world’s first wine.
The Wu – Shamans of Ancient China
Their relationship to the cosmos was a shamanic one. At least some among them were able to communicate directly with plants, minerals, and animals; to journey deep into the earth, or visit distant galaxies. They were able to invoke, through dance and ritual, elemental and supernatural powers, and enter into ecstatic union with them. The class of people most adept at such techniques became known as the wu – the shamans of ancient China."
Images, oral traditions, and historical descriptions show women as invokers, healers, herbalists, oracles and diviners, ecstatic dancers, shapeshifters, shamanic journeyers, and priestesses of the ancestors. The Chinese Wu were ecstatic priestesses who danced to the music of drums and flutes until they reached trance, receiving shen (spirits) into their bodies, healing and prophesying under their inspiration, speaking in tongues, swallowing swords and spitting fire. The power of the shen gathered around the whirling dancers was said to cause objects to rise into the air, to prevent wounds from forming when the dancers slashed themselves with knives.
... read more. http://www.suppressedhistories.net/articles/womanshaman.html
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http://taoism.about.com/od/history/a/shamanic.htm
". Millet was most likely their first grain cultivated; rice and corn and wheat coming later. Evidence exists that they were also potters and musicians, and that they produced the world’s first wine.
The Wu – Shamans of Ancient China
Their relationship to the cosmos was a shamanic one. At least some among them were able to communicate directly with plants, minerals, and animals; to journey deep into the earth, or visit distant galaxies. They were able to invoke, through dance and ritual, elemental and supernatural powers, and enter into ecstatic union with them. The class of people most adept at such techniques became known as the wu – the shamans of ancient China."
1 February 2011 00:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Shamanism is probabaly more then 30 thousand years old (animism is about 50 000 - 70 000 at least). The oldest records (here) point to Siberia and few other locations like current Turkey aria and Africa. But i am not so sure what happened in Americas 30+ thousand years ago.
http://www.apollon.uio.no/vis/art/2006_4/Artikler/python_english - archaeological find in Botswana shows that our ancestors in Africa engaged in ritual practice 70,000 years ago
http://www.apollon.uio.no/vis/art/2006_4/Artikler/python_english - archaeological find in Botswana shows that our ancestors in Africa engaged in ritual practice 70,000 years ago
1 February 2011 00:45
Margus Meigo commented on Kaupo Noor's photo.
ahah, see siis suht ok vist eks? Ma autodest eriti midagi ei tea, kuid need vitriinil olevad nokamütsid on päris normaalsed
31 January 2011 21:55
Margus Meigo commented on Kaupo Noor's photo.
Kui pole kollane, siis ei paistakski välja, et head pidurid un
(oot mis riistapuu see täpsemalt ongi?)
(oot mis riistapuu see täpsemalt ongi?)
31 January 2011 17:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Müts väikemehe käes, seljataga :)
31 January 2011 13:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5TBIfY3bEw - part 2
part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UtXtrrpFwA
part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UtXtrrpFwA
31 January 2011 03:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I will try to get part 3 also soon
31 January 2011 02:58
Margus Meigo commented on Psychedelic Apocalypse's link.
Thank You for this video!
30 January 2011 20:35
Margus Meigo commented on Jamie Janover's post.
Group: The Resonance Project
"Dr. Carter stressed that there is no way of knowing when the star may go supernova. U.S. astronomer Phil Plait added, "Betelgeuse might go up tonight, or it might not be for 100,000 years. We're just not sure."
But yeah i wondered also, if it happens now (as we know its impossible to say with our current knowledge) how long should it take so it can be seen from the Earth? And for sure i cant imagine it to look like "second ordinary sun"
So lets move on27 January 2011 13:44
Margus Meigo commented on Jamie Janover's link.
"Dr. Carter stressed that there is no way of knowing when the star may go supernova. U.S. astronomer Phil Plait added, "Betelgeuse might go up tonight, or it might not be for 100,000 years. We're just not sure."
But yeah i wondered also, if it happens now (as we know its impossible to say with our current knowledge) how long should it take so it can be seen from the Earth? And for sure i cant imagine it to look like "second ordinary sun"
So lets move on
But yeah i wondered also, if it happens now (as we know its impossible to say with our current knowledge) how long should it take so it can be seen from the Earth? And for sure i cant imagine it to look like "second ordinary sun"
So lets move on
27 January 2011 13:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Stan: yes, natural wood (Y)
Today again.. damn freezing, damn global warming
Today again.. damn freezing, damn global warming
26 January 2011 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Greetings Moira! :)
Hope You & family is doing good! I am pretty good over here also but cant allow my self another African tripp - as of now jet. Will be there again one way or another -sooner or later :)
Hope You & family is doing good! I am pretty good over here also but cant allow my self another African tripp - as of now jet. Will be there again one way or another -sooner or later :)
26 January 2011 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
My best one just broke some time ago after serving well 3 years.. grievous times in the kitchen floor... All this kind of reminds me Sekretagentbob series http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CupN28y-K24 - not so much the story but the condition was same when i looked the cartoon first time ... to think of it..newer actually learned this word properly up to today, thanks :)
(i know, totally on topic)
(i know, totally on topic)
21 January 2011 02:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
- first article that i saw from lifeHacker after long time i have been away and i like it!
Not that i would agree it applies to all of us. Of-course It does not apply to me as i truly am, the greatest Being walking along Earthlings - at least in last few thousand years or so) but i think it is many ways pretty close to most of us, to you, no?
Hopefully thought provoking-happy-mood-article for many :)
( i even like my own comment just in case you are to slow and forget to "Like It", how great is that! No really, i really like it, you can see )
Not that i would agree it applies to all of us. Of-course It does not apply to me as i truly am, the greatest Being walking along Earthlings - at least in last few thousand years or so) but i think it is many ways pretty close to most of us, to you, no?
Hopefully thought provoking-happy-mood-article for many :)
( i even like my own comment just in case you are to slow and forget to "Like It", how great is that! No really, i really like it, you can see )
21 January 2011 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I kind of do not like the start so much as it will put off many people who want to see some serious scientific documentary...
There is much more interesting commentaries to start it off for people who have had no psychedelic/alternative experience
There is much more interesting commentaries to start it off for people who have had no psychedelic/alternative experience
21 January 2011 01:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(the 3 other full 60 minute links are in my previous comment, take time to look them all).
21 January 2011 01:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
...If you think you do, you probably don't know enough about this person to be sure or you're suffering from some form of depression. I realize this is a big assumption to make, but when our brains are working properly they take measures to assure that, in the end, we believe we're making the best choices, doing the right things, and—in our specific life—nobody else could do it better. Let's take a look at why this is the case.
Back in December we looked at how synthesized happiness is just as good as real happiness, (http://lifehacker.com/5719077/avoid-added-stress-by-just-deciding-and-moving-forward) ....read more.
You're More Than Yourself
We've also looked at how your brain is like a smartphone (http://lifehacker.com/5737847/why-your-brain-is-like-a-smartphone) ...read more
So...Now What?
Much of what all this amounts to is that we're all very capable of becoming assholes (here are a few of your own reasons for making the transformation http://lifehacker.com/5735412/whats-capable-of-making-you-an-asshole ) and we all still think we're pretty great. Should you change? Only if your behavior is causing you and others grief. This is really just a part of being human, however, and the best thing we can do is accept our limitations—and the same limitations in others—to make living together a much more pleasant experience.
Read the full post from Adam Dachis: http://lifehacker.com/5737441/why-youre-an-asshole-and-thats-just-fine
So what are you and where you go today?
Back in December we looked at how synthesized happiness is just as good as real happiness, (http://lifehacker.com/5719077/avoid-added-stress-by-just-deciding-and-moving-forward) ....read more.
You're More Than Yourself
We've also looked at how your brain is like a smartphone (http://lifehacker.com/5737847/why-your-brain-is-like-a-smartphone) ...read more
So...Now What?
Much of what all this amounts to is that we're all very capable of becoming assholes (here are a few of your own reasons for making the transformation http://lifehacker.com/5735412/whats-capable-of-making-you-an-asshole ) and we all still think we're pretty great. Should you change? Only if your behavior is causing you and others grief. This is really just a part of being human, however, and the best thing we can do is accept our limitations—and the same limitations in others—to make living together a much more pleasant experience.
Read the full post from Adam Dachis: http://lifehacker.com/5737441/why-youre-an-asshole-and-thats-just-fine
So what are you and where you go today?
21 January 2011 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Other good one for watchers is http://topdocumentaryfilms.com and related pages:)
21 January 2011 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://fuii-aboutthisblog.blogspot.com/
"This blog is an independent & private project and has no contact, Relationship or cooperation with any ideological, political, or commercial linked groups, Homepages or blogs. There are no financial interests or any other benefits involved in this act of mine. Our today’s worldwide problems are mostly made by people like us, with lack of proper cultural background, and adequate knowledge. Helping people having easier access to culture, knowledge and science is the only cause for existence of this blog. If we want to change this condition, we have to educate ourselves better. With publishing this blog, I just try to take a small step forwards on this long and uneasy way!
There are some similar looking & similar sounding homepages and blogs with even similar design and Motto in Internet (I found at least two such Ideological/political Propaganda sites with similar names). Unfortunately, there are always some people who try to profit from others good idea, work & reputation. Please do not be confused by such unfair tries and keep visiting your own Campus in Internet under only this adress."
RSS feed: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=kam200&num=99&so=1&start=0&filter=0&output=rss
"This blog is an independent & private project and has no contact, Relationship or cooperation with any ideological, political, or commercial linked groups, Homepages or blogs. There are no financial interests or any other benefits involved in this act of mine. Our today’s worldwide problems are mostly made by people like us, with lack of proper cultural background, and adequate knowledge. Helping people having easier access to culture, knowledge and science is the only cause for existence of this blog. If we want to change this condition, we have to educate ourselves better. With publishing this blog, I just try to take a small step forwards on this long and uneasy way!
There are some similar looking & similar sounding homepages and blogs with even similar design and Motto in Internet (I found at least two such Ideological/political Propaganda sites with similar names). Unfortunately, there are always some people who try to profit from others good idea, work & reputation. Please do not be confused by such unfair tries and keep visiting your own Campus in Internet under only this adress."
RSS feed: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=kam200&num=99&so=1&start=0&filter=0&output=rss
19 January 2011 23:10
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
It's all in our minds :)
14 January 2011 14:31
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
& yes, as mentioned before.. have some nice trip's also! ;)
14 January 2011 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Edu ja kallid :)
14 January 2011 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Hine's link.
I try to share it but it does not work (first it copys http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/fb_share/thelegendaryrtandsredni_copy_to_clipboard <- the last part is not needed ) and when i remove the last part it does still not enamble it when i copy paste link to my wall manually. Maybe you can notify ReverbNation crew as an artist, they will fix it sooner. (using firefox 4)
13 January 2011 13:39
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Hine's link.
This music app is so cool, first time i see it. These programmers now how to please lisseners.
Keep up the blues
Keep up the blues
13 January 2011 13:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Something more positive to top last 2 videos. Will keep it up next days, promiss :)
(but really, take time to lissten the Freud doc - gives you some hilights of some basics, simple to understand format. Nothing new for the people who know this name well but for others..it's a must:)
(but really, take time to lissten the Freud doc - gives you some hilights of some basics, simple to understand format. Nothing new for the people who know this name well but for others..it's a must:)
13 January 2011 04:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized." - Edward Bernays
The Century of the self 2 of 4 (60 minutes)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-678466363224520614
The Century of the self 3 of 4
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6111922724894802811
The Century of the self 4 of 4
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1122532358497501036
If people are manipulated by fear and terror for SURE they are manipulated by hope, caring and false love (no need to mention power & money). Just remeber it.
I just wanted to post these 2 doc here as if time go's by - metaphorically speaking, then we need to remeber it when the new gurus come out.
Also be aware of ALL gurus who spread their knowladge only for excange for great money. Be aware, for starters.
The Century of the self 2 of 4 (60 minutes)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-678466363224520614
The Century of the self 3 of 4
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6111922724894802811
The Century of the self 4 of 4
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1122532358497501036
If people are manipulated by fear and terror for SURE they are manipulated by hope, caring and false love (no need to mention power & money). Just remeber it.
I just wanted to post these 2 doc here as if time go's by - metaphorically speaking, then we need to remeber it when the new gurus come out.
Also be aware of ALL gurus who spread their knowladge only for excange for great money. Be aware, for starters.
13 January 2011 03:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(this is full 2 hour movie link bdw)
10 January 2011 17:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Take also look to the http://www.facebook.com/PsychedelicAdventure and http://www.youtube.com/user/MysteriousBroadcast also if you *have time*
10 January 2011 11:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The fact that i am still spending time here writing about it should prove to the reader how far behind we still are.We still need internet and this huge anmount of junk technolagy - this how far we are. I am even not starting to mention the bombs ignorant people still build. Why people work so hard to stop the 'evolution'?
10 January 2011 11:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Anne: Are You sure about that? What gave me away? The smile?
7 January 2011 16:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Greetings Valentin :))
Doing good over here and it will be even better when our wonderful winder is over (as i need to heat my own apartment). There have been a lot of interesting developments but most of this has happened in places not really describable in here with so few words that lie in my English vocabulary. And you ?
Doing good over here and it will be even better when our wonderful winder is over (as i need to heat my own apartment). There have been a lot of interesting developments but most of this has happened in places not really describable in here with so few words that lie in my English vocabulary. And you ?
7 January 2011 16:35
Margus Meigo commented on Incognitogen Gabriel's post.
Thank You, Best vibes to Romania also! :)
30 December 2010 00:51
Margus Meigo commented on Dave Hunt's photo.
Not maybe so much for Dave, as even if i might or might not agree with some of your views then fallowing link is more for some comenters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrw7bE_a4NY (Should we desire God or not)
But what You think?
But what You think?
29 December 2010 12:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
... “in a state of deep bliss" on park benches in Russell Square, Central London, "watching the world go by.” He stayed with friends, in a Buddhist monastery, or otherwise slept rough on Hampstead Heath. His family thought him “irresponsible, even insane"
In 1977, at the age of 29, after having suffered from long periods of suicidal depression, Tolle says he experienced an "inner transformation". He woke up in the middle of the night, suffering from feelings of depression that were "almost unbearable". Tolle says of the experience,
I couldn’t live with myself any longer. And in this a question arose without an answer: who is the ‘I’ that cannot live with the self? What is the self? I felt drawn into a void. I didn’t know at the time that what really happened was the mind-made self, with its heaviness, its problems, that lives between the unsatisfying past and the fearful future, collapsed. It dissolved. The next morning I woke up and everything was so peaceful. The peace was there because there was no self. Just a sense of presence or “beingness”, just observing and watching.
Eckhart Tolle (62) is a German-born writer, public speaker, and spiritual teacher. He is the author of the bestsellers, The Power of Now and A New Earth. In 2008, an article in the New York Times referred to him as "the most popular spiritual author in the nation".
Tolle changed his name from Ulrich to Eckhart, reportedly in reference to the German philosopher and mystic, Meister Eckhart
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eckhart_Tolle
Kuigi ta ei ole olnud ühegi vaimse liikumise järgija, on talle lähedased olnud Bo Yin Ra, Jiddu Krishnamurti ja Ramana Maharshi teosed.
Oma loengutes ja kirjutistes rõhutab ta väge, mis tuleneb käesolevale hetkele tähelepanu pööramisest ning seda, kui väeti on muretseda möödaniku pärast või karta tulevikku. Praegune on kõik, mis meil tegelikult on ning teadlikult siinses kohalolek on parim viis tuleviku potentsiaali realiseerida. Praeguses olek viib ka teadvuse mõistusest kaugemale. Selline teadlikkus võimaldab vabaneda "valukehast," mis on tekkinud teadvuse identifitseerumisel mõistuse, keha ja egoga.
In 1977, at the age of 29, after having suffered from long periods of suicidal depression, Tolle says he experienced an "inner transformation". He woke up in the middle of the night, suffering from feelings of depression that were "almost unbearable". Tolle says of the experience,
I couldn’t live with myself any longer. And in this a question arose without an answer: who is the ‘I’ that cannot live with the self? What is the self? I felt drawn into a void. I didn’t know at the time that what really happened was the mind-made self, with its heaviness, its problems, that lives between the unsatisfying past and the fearful future, collapsed. It dissolved. The next morning I woke up and everything was so peaceful. The peace was there because there was no self. Just a sense of presence or “beingness”, just observing and watching.
Eckhart Tolle (62) is a German-born writer, public speaker, and spiritual teacher. He is the author of the bestsellers, The Power of Now and A New Earth. In 2008, an article in the New York Times referred to him as "the most popular spiritual author in the nation".
Tolle changed his name from Ulrich to Eckhart, reportedly in reference to the German philosopher and mystic, Meister Eckhart
http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eckhart_Tolle
Kuigi ta ei ole olnud ühegi vaimse liikumise järgija, on talle lähedased olnud Bo Yin Ra, Jiddu Krishnamurti ja Ramana Maharshi teosed.
Oma loengutes ja kirjutistes rõhutab ta väge, mis tuleneb käesolevale hetkele tähelepanu pööramisest ning seda, kui väeti on muretseda möödaniku pärast või karta tulevikku. Praegune on kõik, mis meil tegelikult on ning teadlikult siinses kohalolek on parim viis tuleviku potentsiaali realiseerida. Praeguses olek viib ka teadvuse mõistusest kaugemale. Selline teadlikkus võimaldab vabaneda "valukehast," mis on tekkinud teadvuse identifitseerumisel mõistuse, keha ja egoga.
29 December 2010 11:55
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Kuid miks alles nüüd?
29 December 2010 00:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
To understand reality is not the same as to know about outward events. It is to perceive the essential nature of things. The best-informed man is not necessarily the wisest. Indeed there is a danger that precisely in the multiplicity of his knowledge he will lose sight of what is essential. But on the other hand, knowledge of an apparently trivial detail quite often makes it possible to see into the depth of things. And so the wise man will seek to acquire the best possible knowledge about events, but always without becoming dependent upon this knowledge. To recognize the significant in the factual is wisdom.
- Dietrich Bonhoeffer
And as i told before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4p8qxGbpOk
Want to contribute to this? Please! Happy imaginary end of 2010!
- Dietrich Bonhoeffer
And as i told before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4p8qxGbpOk
Want to contribute to this? Please! Happy imaginary end of 2010!
28 December 2010 17:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
..or maybe you need to re-read also places like http://thesecretlie.blogspot.com - but really, do you? In the end, all answers & resources you ever need have been front of you: Love
Be aware of cults - you have no need for them, you do not need to spend them money to buy tens of books that in best case tell you same thing as some Beatles songs (and they do it way better i would say) - but one ONLY gets the message anyway if one gets it. So in the end these books/videos are most of the time useless.
Love yourself so you can love others. Trust yourself and people around for starters. From there you can start to see that there is no direction from where love shines, no need to look for it - you just need to open your eyes. Now, no looking back or analyzing.
Once someone told: Greatest things in here are simple but all simple things are not greatest
Be aware of cults - you have no need for them, you do not need to spend them money to buy tens of books that in best case tell you same thing as some Beatles songs (and they do it way better i would say) - but one ONLY gets the message anyway if one gets it. So in the end these books/videos are most of the time useless.
Love yourself so you can love others. Trust yourself and people around for starters. From there you can start to see that there is no direction from where love shines, no need to look for it - you just need to open your eyes. Now, no looking back or analyzing.
Once someone told: Greatest things in here are simple but all simple things are not greatest
28 December 2010 17:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_of_Life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_geometry
“Love is 'like' energy. It can never be created nor destroyed...it is just always there. You just have to realize that fact and you have to learn that as soon as you stopped loving him in the way you did that love left to somewhere else. Now all you have to do is find out where that love went. That love went to whoever the next person in your life will be. That next person could be one of your friends or someone you might dislike, you just have to find that out.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_geometry
“Love is 'like' energy. It can never be created nor destroyed...it is just always there. You just have to realize that fact and you have to learn that as soon as you stopped loving him in the way you did that love left to somewhere else. Now all you have to do is find out where that love went. That love went to whoever the next person in your life will be. That next person could be one of your friends or someone you might dislike, you just have to find that out.”
28 December 2010 17:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"Before you've practiced, the theory is useless. After you've practiced, the theory is obvious"
"You cannot do yoga. Yoga is your natural state. What you can do are yoga exercises, which may reveal to you where you are resisting your natural state"
- from my favorite yoga quote collection
"You cannot do yoga. Yoga is your natural state. What you can do are yoga exercises, which may reveal to you where you are resisting your natural state"
- from my favorite yoga quote collection
21 December 2010 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
So the show is on Dave Hunt’s book, Yoga and the Body of Christ: What Position Should Christians Hold?
I included many links where you can see some of theirs interpretation of Kundalini, shamanism, "what is yoga" (for some) & well... It's not new info for old players but.. let's start:
This week we focus on the question, “Is Yoga Demonic?” Along with Dave Hunt, here’s T. A. McMahon.
http://www.thebereancall.org/node/6125
http://www.amazon.com/Yoga-Body-Christ-Position-Christians/dp/1928660487
Promising to bring peace, healing, and wholeness (even prosperity!) to its practitioners, readers will be shocked to discover that yoga is, in fact, based on the worship of unholy spirits that manifest in extraordinary and dangerous ways. The author-an avid promoter of biblically based physical, mental, and spiritual wholeness-distinguishes pure truth from popular belief in this revealing expose. Every Christian should be informed of the true origins and effects of the practice of yoga and its ungodly roots in Kundalini energy-which, literally defined, means an awakening of the "Serpent Power." Dave Hunt is a best-selling author and internationally esteemed researcher, lecturer, and scholar, whose works have been translated into more than 40 languages. Over 4 million copies of his books have been sold. Dave's impeccable research and recognized scholarship make him a sought-after speaker at conferences. Along with cohost T.A. McMahon, Dave also challenges listeners on the weekly radio program "Search the Scriptures Daily" heard on over 350 stations nationwide.
Is Yoga demonic or an invitation to demons?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/pda/thread.php?topic_id=2795
http://www.nccg.org/occult/Occult031-Yoga.html (again, amazing what is )
To understand Yoga, it is first necessary to understand its overall aim. The aim of Yoga is LIBERATION from the normal human condition. This is thought to be achieved by mutilating the normal human state of consciousness and by replacing it with an abnormal state of consciousness in which the yogin [the one practicing Yoga] sees himself as essentially "divine" or "god" The physical type of Yoga most commonly taught in the West is known to yogins as Hatha Yoga. The aim of all types of Yoga, including Hathayoga, is the same. Indeed, the classical Hathayoga texts all describe Hathayoga as a "ladder" to Raja Yoga. Rajayoga (Royal Yoga) involves the deliberate
cultivation of advanced trance-states.
Your assumption that Hathayoga is no more than physical exercise is false. Each exercise in Hathayoga is designed with the aim of speeding up the yogin's progress to "liberation" or "enlightenment". This can be seen easily from the classical Hathayoga texts & it go's on
WHAT IS YOGA?
http://www.met.org.za/traktate/yoga.htm (longer list of different reasons why yoga is not good in
Church eye)
"The term YOGA literally means "yoke" and refers to the union that yoga brings about with Brahman, the Hindu god. "Yoga incorporates numerous methods..."
16. Health shops where so-called health food are sold, are usually "Eastern embassies" where interest in Eastern ideas, yoga and vegetarian diets are propagated. These shops are often the tools that involve people in yoga by their free supply of literature
17. Conclusion Bob Larson urgently warns "Under no circumstances should a Christian engage in any form of yoga, no matter how harmless the exercise postures may seem". Yoga`s promises of health, peace, everlasting life, are lies from the devil. Once again we see that demons mislead people into believing they are god and are religious
Yoga: Kundalini Yoga By Dr. John Ankerberg and Dr. John Weldon
http://www.jashow.org/Articles/_PDFArchives/new-age/NA3W0402.pdf
http://www.pastornet.net.au/response/articles/103.htm
"
Perhaps the dominant characteristic in kundalini arousal and other yoga practice is an experience of energy infusion, or possession. Gopi Krishna describes the following experiences of most yogic, meditative, and mystical practices. “During the ecstasy or trance,consciousness is transformed and the yogi, sufi, or mystic finds himself in direct rapport with an overwhelming Presence. This warm, living, conscious Presence spreads everywhere and occupies the whole mind and thought of the devotee.…” Furthermore, this energy “is invariably experienced by all mediators and yogis as some kind of supernatural or divine energy.” Not surprisingly, we have yet to read a kundalini or yoga theorist who defines this energy infusion, or possession, as actual demon possession; however, there is often recognition of a possessing god or entity, and sometimes references to the demonic.
The Taoist Master Chao Pi Ch’en observed that “as time passes, demonic states will occur to the practiser [sic].…”
Significantly, yogic energy manifestations and possession are sometimes initially sensed by the experiencer as the work of an evil spirit. But this primary impression is “corrected” in accordance with Hindu theory, classifying the phenomena as a “divine process"
The Secret of Qigong And Yoga
(again, we can see how the activists have spreaded one and same article arond the internet, just changing some wordings so it will come out in google as seperate article if one uses right keywords, good SEO). You raraly can comment to these posts.
http://www.artipot.com/articles/740550/the-reality-of-qigong-and-yoga.htm
http://www.martialarts.cz2az.com/the-reality-of-qigong-and-yoga.html
http://www.boiseselfdefenseco.com/blog/martial-arts-taekwondo/the-reality-of-qigong-and-yoga/
Basically, the spiritual background of qigong or yoga is evil spirits. It is characterized by sorceries and idol worships. Qigong claims to help a person gain healing or supernatural power from "Qi" by doing certain posture or state of mind.
This "qi" and the supernatural power are actually from evil spirits in the spiritual realm. Qigong is one kind of sorceries described in the Bible. Jesus prophesied that in the end time, there will be people doing wonders by the power of evil spirits.
The core idea of all different kinds of qigong or yoga exercises is to try to get around one self's conscious mind. Jesus said unless the strong man is bound, no one could go into his house and rob him. The devil knows this, too. So it designed a way to deceive people to willingly surrender their will so that they become easy target for demons to control. When the conscious mind is surrendered, the sub consciousness left is very vulnerable to evil spirit influences.
Activism? :
Dahn Yoga Exposed
http://www.wholyfit.org/live-player/?p=484
Thanks to one of our instructors, we have been made aware that Dahn Yoga has been exposed as a satanic cult. If you have been affected by Dahn Yoga (now called “Yoga Works”) there is a need for cleansing…yes even if you are a Christian. We are in a battle. We must put on the full armor of God. If you are a Christian, and especially if you are a Christian leader it is important that you completely disassociate yourself from the Yoga community, practices and philosophies in these Last Days. We don’t need anything Yoga has to offer. '''
Well & this is just small portion of links as you can imagine.
Imaginary Award for the one who takes time to read some, analyze & give some wise feedback.
Thank You!
I included many links where you can see some of theirs interpretation of Kundalini, shamanism, "what is yoga" (for some) & well... It's not new info for old players but.. let's start:
This week we focus on the question, “Is Yoga Demonic?” Along with Dave Hunt, here’s T. A. McMahon.
http://www.thebereancall.org/node/6125
http://www.amazon.com/Yoga-Body-Christ-Position-Christians/dp/1928660487
Promising to bring peace, healing, and wholeness (even prosperity!) to its practitioners, readers will be shocked to discover that yoga is, in fact, based on the worship of unholy spirits that manifest in extraordinary and dangerous ways. The author-an avid promoter of biblically based physical, mental, and spiritual wholeness-distinguishes pure truth from popular belief in this revealing expose. Every Christian should be informed of the true origins and effects of the practice of yoga and its ungodly roots in Kundalini energy-which, literally defined, means an awakening of the "Serpent Power." Dave Hunt is a best-selling author and internationally esteemed researcher, lecturer, and scholar, whose works have been translated into more than 40 languages. Over 4 million copies of his books have been sold. Dave's impeccable research and recognized scholarship make him a sought-after speaker at conferences. Along with cohost T.A. McMahon, Dave also challenges listeners on the weekly radio program "Search the Scriptures Daily" heard on over 350 stations nationwide.
Is Yoga demonic or an invitation to demons?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/pda/thread.php?topic_id=2795
http://www.nccg.org/occult/Occult031-Yoga.html (again, amazing what is )
To understand Yoga, it is first necessary to understand its overall aim. The aim of Yoga is LIBERATION from the normal human condition. This is thought to be achieved by mutilating the normal human state of consciousness and by replacing it with an abnormal state of consciousness in which the yogin [the one practicing Yoga] sees himself as essentially "divine" or "god" The physical type of Yoga most commonly taught in the West is known to yogins as Hatha Yoga. The aim of all types of Yoga, including Hathayoga, is the same. Indeed, the classical Hathayoga texts all describe Hathayoga as a "ladder" to Raja Yoga. Rajayoga (Royal Yoga) involves the deliberate
cultivation of advanced trance-states.
Your assumption that Hathayoga is no more than physical exercise is false. Each exercise in Hathayoga is designed with the aim of speeding up the yogin's progress to "liberation" or "enlightenment". This can be seen easily from the classical Hathayoga texts & it go's on
WHAT IS YOGA?
http://www.met.org.za/traktate/yoga.htm (longer list of different reasons why yoga is not good in
Church eye)
"The term YOGA literally means "yoke" and refers to the union that yoga brings about with Brahman, the Hindu god. "Yoga incorporates numerous methods..."
16. Health shops where so-called health food are sold, are usually "Eastern embassies" where interest in Eastern ideas, yoga and vegetarian diets are propagated. These shops are often the tools that involve people in yoga by their free supply of literature
17. Conclusion Bob Larson urgently warns "Under no circumstances should a Christian engage in any form of yoga, no matter how harmless the exercise postures may seem". Yoga`s promises of health, peace, everlasting life, are lies from the devil. Once again we see that demons mislead people into believing they are god and are religious
Yoga: Kundalini Yoga By Dr. John Ankerberg and Dr. John Weldon
http://www.jashow.org/Articles/_PDFArchives/new-age/NA3W0402.pdf
http://www.pastornet.net.au/response/articles/103.htm
"
Perhaps the dominant characteristic in kundalini arousal and other yoga practice is an experience of energy infusion, or possession. Gopi Krishna describes the following experiences of most yogic, meditative, and mystical practices. “During the ecstasy or trance,consciousness is transformed and the yogi, sufi, or mystic finds himself in direct rapport with an overwhelming Presence. This warm, living, conscious Presence spreads everywhere and occupies the whole mind and thought of the devotee.…” Furthermore, this energy “is invariably experienced by all mediators and yogis as some kind of supernatural or divine energy.” Not surprisingly, we have yet to read a kundalini or yoga theorist who defines this energy infusion, or possession, as actual demon possession; however, there is often recognition of a possessing god or entity, and sometimes references to the demonic.
The Taoist Master Chao Pi Ch’en observed that “as time passes, demonic states will occur to the practiser [sic].…”
Significantly, yogic energy manifestations and possession are sometimes initially sensed by the experiencer as the work of an evil spirit. But this primary impression is “corrected” in accordance with Hindu theory, classifying the phenomena as a “divine process"
The Secret of Qigong And Yoga
(again, we can see how the activists have spreaded one and same article arond the internet, just changing some wordings so it will come out in google as seperate article if one uses right keywords, good SEO). You raraly can comment to these posts.
http://www.artipot.com/articles/740550/the-reality-of-qigong-and-yoga.htm
http://www.martialarts.cz2az.com/the-reality-of-qigong-and-yoga.html
http://www.boiseselfdefenseco.com/blog/martial-arts-taekwondo/the-reality-of-qigong-and-yoga/
Basically, the spiritual background of qigong or yoga is evil spirits. It is characterized by sorceries and idol worships. Qigong claims to help a person gain healing or supernatural power from "Qi" by doing certain posture or state of mind.
This "qi" and the supernatural power are actually from evil spirits in the spiritual realm. Qigong is one kind of sorceries described in the Bible. Jesus prophesied that in the end time, there will be people doing wonders by the power of evil spirits.
The core idea of all different kinds of qigong or yoga exercises is to try to get around one self's conscious mind. Jesus said unless the strong man is bound, no one could go into his house and rob him. The devil knows this, too. So it designed a way to deceive people to willingly surrender their will so that they become easy target for demons to control. When the conscious mind is surrendered, the sub consciousness left is very vulnerable to evil spirit influences.
Activism? :
Dahn Yoga Exposed
http://www.wholyfit.org/live-player/?p=484
Thanks to one of our instructors, we have been made aware that Dahn Yoga has been exposed as a satanic cult. If you have been affected by Dahn Yoga (now called “Yoga Works”) there is a need for cleansing…yes even if you are a Christian. We are in a battle. We must put on the full armor of God. If you are a Christian, and especially if you are a Christian leader it is important that you completely disassociate yourself from the Yoga community, practices and philosophies in these Last Days. We don’t need anything Yoga has to offer. '''
Well & this is just small portion of links as you can imagine.
Imaginary Award for the one who takes time to read some, analyze & give some wise feedback.
Thank You!
18 December 2010 01:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
So first, who is this Dave Hunt? Here is some video & doc links that might be interesting for some. I share this as i got some thoughtful feedback on mail for the Veylanswami video.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Hunt_(Christian_apologist)
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dave-Hunt/191024180174?v=info
From wiki we can read: Hunt is a strict Biblical Creationist.Theologically, Hunt is evangelical, dispensational, and associated with the Plymouth Brethren Movement. Although he is not a Calvinist, he does hold to Eternal Security.
He believes occult or pagan influences are pervasive in modern culture - this includes evolution, as well as all forms of psychology, some forms of entertainment, all forms of science-fiction or fantasy - especially Harry Potter - yoga, some forms of medicine, environmental concern or conservation and much of public education. His book Occult Invasion is dedicated to this area, while several other books mention it in part.
The Seduction of Christianity (co-written with Tom McMahon), which categorized Word of Faith teachings, meditation, and psychology-based counseling as New Age heresies, generated much debate in the 1980s.
But wait, this is not all, If you want to read more clorified outlook of hes accomplisments read the facebook page link i give. He is a name no doubt. Othervise i would just ignore all the fallowing redicules looking links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Brethren
The Plymouth Brethren is a conservative, Evangelical Christian movement. They are, generally, dispensational, pre-tribulational, premillennial and cessational in their theology and have much in common with other conservative evangelical Christian groups. They believe in the "Eternal Security" of the true Bible-believing Christian with each believer being subject to "grace" and not "law"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_security
Perseverance of the saints, as well as the corollary—though distinct—doctrine known as "Once Saved, Always Saved", is a Christian teaching that once a person is truly saved they can never lose their salvation.
& some random selection of links:
Dave Hunt Refutes Calvinism. Calvinists Refute Dave Hunt.
http://procinwarn.com/DHCal.htm
His next book is titled: What Love is This?
Many interesting comments there:
http://www.amazon.com/What-Love-This-Calvinisms-Misrepresentation/dp/1928660126/
Calvinism's misrepresentation of God, full video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-OESTsWsEA
Dave Hunt - Silva Mind Control Part 1/6 & Shamanism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMIqsEdix4E
A Woman Rides the Beast - Dave Hunt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Ke7Tn3uOU (documentary?)
Dave Hunt - A Woman Rides The Beast - The Catholic Church And The Last Days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlvdyHNloYM
The Occult Influence in Freemasonry
http://www.ankerberg.com/Articles/_PDFArchives/new-age/NA2W0203.pdf
"
According to its own documents, Masonry involves occultism. Its influence permeates both the world and the church. Although many professing Christians are Masons, Masonry is an anti-Christian religious cult rooted in paganism. Masonry contains much of the mysticism of Hinduism and Buddhism, and is Luciferian. Yet Peale declared, “I have never seen the slightest word or expression [in Masonic rituals] that is anything a Christian could not endorse"
Mystery Babylon Identified
http://www.endtimeschristianity.com/cgi-bin/webbbs_files/webbbs_config.pl?noframes;read=143
"...As only one example, in 1986, Pope John Paul II gathered in Assisi, Italy the leaders of the world's major religions to pray for peace. There were snake worshipers, fire worshipers, spiritists, animists, Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, North American Indian witchdoctors. I watched in astonishment as they walked to the microphone to pray. The Pope said they were all praying to the same "God" and that their prayers were creating a spiritual energy that was bringing about a new climate for peace. On that occasion John Paul II allowed his good friend the Dalai Lama to put the Buddha on the altar in St. Peter's church in Assisi and with his monks to have a Buddhist worship ceremony there, while Shintoists chanted and rang their bells outside. The prophesied world religion is in the process of being formed before our eyes and the Vatican is the headquarters of the movement. Is this not spiritual fornication such as no other city either has or could commit?"
& well, as you can see from this guy resume there is a lot more but let's stop here with him & let's get in to some links i mentioned before - on next comment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Hunt_(Christian_apologist)
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dave-Hunt/191024180174?v=info
From wiki we can read: Hunt is a strict Biblical Creationist.Theologically, Hunt is evangelical, dispensational, and associated with the Plymouth Brethren Movement. Although he is not a Calvinist, he does hold to Eternal Security.
He believes occult or pagan influences are pervasive in modern culture - this includes evolution, as well as all forms of psychology, some forms of entertainment, all forms of science-fiction or fantasy - especially Harry Potter - yoga, some forms of medicine, environmental concern or conservation and much of public education. His book Occult Invasion is dedicated to this area, while several other books mention it in part.
The Seduction of Christianity (co-written with Tom McMahon), which categorized Word of Faith teachings, meditation, and psychology-based counseling as New Age heresies, generated much debate in the 1980s.
But wait, this is not all, If you want to read more clorified outlook of hes accomplisments read the facebook page link i give. He is a name no doubt. Othervise i would just ignore all the fallowing redicules looking links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Brethren
The Plymouth Brethren is a conservative, Evangelical Christian movement. They are, generally, dispensational, pre-tribulational, premillennial and cessational in their theology and have much in common with other conservative evangelical Christian groups. They believe in the "Eternal Security" of the true Bible-believing Christian with each believer being subject to "grace" and not "law"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_security
Perseverance of the saints, as well as the corollary—though distinct—doctrine known as "Once Saved, Always Saved", is a Christian teaching that once a person is truly saved they can never lose their salvation.
& some random selection of links:
Dave Hunt Refutes Calvinism. Calvinists Refute Dave Hunt.
http://procinwarn.com/DHCal.htm
His next book is titled: What Love is This?
Many interesting comments there:
http://www.amazon.com/What-Love-This-Calvinisms-Misrepresentation/dp/1928660126/
Calvinism's misrepresentation of God, full video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-OESTsWsEA
Dave Hunt - Silva Mind Control Part 1/6 & Shamanism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMIqsEdix4E
A Woman Rides the Beast - Dave Hunt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5Ke7Tn3uOU (documentary?)
Dave Hunt - A Woman Rides The Beast - The Catholic Church And The Last Days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlvdyHNloYM
The Occult Influence in Freemasonry
http://www.ankerberg.com/Articles/_PDFArchives/new-age/NA2W0203.pdf
"
According to its own documents, Masonry involves occultism. Its influence permeates both the world and the church. Although many professing Christians are Masons, Masonry is an anti-Christian religious cult rooted in paganism. Masonry contains much of the mysticism of Hinduism and Buddhism, and is Luciferian. Yet Peale declared, “I have never seen the slightest word or expression [in Masonic rituals] that is anything a Christian could not endorse"
Mystery Babylon Identified
http://www.endtimeschristianity.com/cgi-bin/webbbs_files/webbbs_config.pl?noframes;read=143
"...As only one example, in 1986, Pope John Paul II gathered in Assisi, Italy the leaders of the world's major religions to pray for peace. There were snake worshipers, fire worshipers, spiritists, animists, Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, North American Indian witchdoctors. I watched in astonishment as they walked to the microphone to pray. The Pope said they were all praying to the same "God" and that their prayers were creating a spiritual energy that was bringing about a new climate for peace. On that occasion John Paul II allowed his good friend the Dalai Lama to put the Buddha on the altar in St. Peter's church in Assisi and with his monks to have a Buddhist worship ceremony there, while Shintoists chanted and rang their bells outside. The prophesied world religion is in the process of being formed before our eyes and the Vatican is the headquarters of the movement. Is this not spiritual fornication such as no other city either has or could commit?"
& well, as you can see from this guy resume there is a lot more but let's stop here with him & let's get in to some links i mentioned before - on next comment.
18 December 2010 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
& if one adds some mind aletring plants & practises to the 'googeling' who knows what comes out. Do not forget It matters what we are searching for - what we want to find & how open we are for the things we find & re-find... skills for google hacks are not in first place, midset is. Do we all need to go out of our mind now becouse for some the End Times are coming and for some the gateway is open for other dimensions and beings etc? No, it's not a first version of 'matrix', take it easy, relax, Love & explore the consciousness if you have questions, leave the depression. Take time off from work, take care of loved ones and see things as they actually are: Beautiful!
Here is the links & more:
Can Everyone Benefit from Yoga?
http://www.hinduismtoday.com/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=5065
We Are All Hindus Now
http://www.newsweek.com/2009/08/14/we-are-all-hindus-now.html#
"They learn in Sunday school that their religion is true, and others are false. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the father except through me."
Americans are no longer buying it. According to a 2008 Pew Forum survey, 65 percent of us believe that.."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1363402/Is-yoga-the-new-religion.html
Mr Newstead temporarily lost the sense of inner peace for which yoga practitioners are famed. From his canal boat on the River Brook, he said: "What they have done is tunnel-visioned and I am staggered. Would Christ refuse me entrance to his house if I am teaching people how to eat properly, keep fit and free of disease?"
Mr Newstead, who used to be an alcoholic and a drug addict, said yoga had transformed his life: "If it wasn't for yoga I would probably not even be here." He intends to return to the church, to press his case for use of the hall.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Christian_reflection_on_the_New_Age
http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_yoga-leads-to-possession-by-devils_1166562
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2722743.stm
The Roman Catholic Church has warned Christians against resorting to New Age therapies to satisfy their spiritual needs.
Publishing the results of a six-year study of practices such as yoga, feng shui and shamanism, the Vatican said that whatever the individual merits of such therapies, none provided a true answer to the human thirst for happiness.
The BBC's Rome correspondent David Willey says the report contrasts New Age "truths" are about good vibrations, cosmic correspondences, harmony and ecstasy with what it calls the "eternal truths" of Christian teaching.
Written in response to bishops' requests for Christian guidance on New Age phenomena such as yoga, meditation and healing by crystals.
It provides a glossary of New Age terms as "channelling", "rebirthing", "positive thinking", "karma" and "reincarnation" and goes into the history of New Age trends, examining them one by one:
... look the link
Article: Vatican warns on Zen, yoga `cult of body'
http://www.skepticfiles.org/rumor/vaticanz.htm
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-3975351.html
" (1989) VATICAN CITY The Vatican told Catholics on Thursday that some aspects of yoga, Zen and other forms of Oriental meditation can "degenerate into a cult of the body" and are not a substitute for Christian prayer.A document issued by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Roman Catholic Church's guardian of orthodoxy, said genuine Christian mysticism is not a question of technique and warned Catholics not to confuse the pleasure derived from some forms of meditation with a relationship with God.
The 23-page document, signed by the West German congregation head Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, was believed the first time the Vatican sought to respond to the pull of Eastern religious practices.
By Eastern methods, the document said, it was referring to practices inspired by Hinduism and Buddhism such as Zen, Transcendental Meditation and yoga, which [may] involve prescribed postures and controlled breathing.
The document, approved by Pope John Paul II and addressed to bishops, said attempts to combine Christian meditation with Eastern techniques were fraught with danger although they can have positive uses.
& from the source:
JESUS CHRIST AND THE PEOPLES OF OCEANIA: WALKING HIS WAY,TELLING HIS TRUTH,LIVING HIS LIFE
LINEAMENTA, VATICAN CITY,1997
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/synod/documents/rc_synod_doc_26091997_oce-lineam_en.html
Particular Points
24. Not all the sects and new religious movements in Oceania have Christian roots. Among the more popular are forms of self-improvement that go back to Eastern traditions, such as yoga or Buddhist meditation. Ashrams and centres of Zen or Buddhist meditation can be found as welcomed refuges from the frenetic rush of life in the big city. In their acceptable forms, these often offer help to people in need. However, they may also be the cause of Catholics moving away from their faith for various reasons.
A widely diffused form of contemporary spirituality is New Age. Linked to the process of secularisation, this movement draws elements from the Jewish and Christian traditions as well as from Gnosticism and Oriental religions. Its followers believe that a new consciousness has dawned on the planet which will make all religion and philosophy out-dated. This would seem to be a radical reaction to the lack of values which has come to characterise an industrialised, technological culture of mass consumption and mass communication.
- so from Vatican website it seems they are not so conserned about yoga... and well, origially - they should not be, as Jesus told (take it literally or not, it's your coiche) "My yoga is simple".
Here is the links & more:
Can Everyone Benefit from Yoga?
http://www.hinduismtoday.com/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=5065
We Are All Hindus Now
http://www.newsweek.com/2009/08/14/we-are-all-hindus-now.html#
"They learn in Sunday school that their religion is true, and others are false. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the father except through me."
Americans are no longer buying it. According to a 2008 Pew Forum survey, 65 percent of us believe that.."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1363402/Is-yoga-the-new-religion.html
Mr Newstead temporarily lost the sense of inner peace for which yoga practitioners are famed. From his canal boat on the River Brook, he said: "What they have done is tunnel-visioned and I am staggered. Would Christ refuse me entrance to his house if I am teaching people how to eat properly, keep fit and free of disease?"
Mr Newstead, who used to be an alcoholic and a drug addict, said yoga had transformed his life: "If it wasn't for yoga I would probably not even be here." He intends to return to the church, to press his case for use of the hall.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Christian_reflection_on_the_New_Age
http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_yoga-leads-to-possession-by-devils_1166562
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2722743.stm
The Roman Catholic Church has warned Christians against resorting to New Age therapies to satisfy their spiritual needs.
Publishing the results of a six-year study of practices such as yoga, feng shui and shamanism, the Vatican said that whatever the individual merits of such therapies, none provided a true answer to the human thirst for happiness.
The BBC's Rome correspondent David Willey says the report contrasts New Age "truths" are about good vibrations, cosmic correspondences, harmony and ecstasy with what it calls the "eternal truths" of Christian teaching.
Written in response to bishops' requests for Christian guidance on New Age phenomena such as yoga, meditation and healing by crystals.
It provides a glossary of New Age terms as "channelling", "rebirthing", "positive thinking", "karma" and "reincarnation" and goes into the history of New Age trends, examining them one by one:
... look the link
Article: Vatican warns on Zen, yoga `cult of body'
http://www.skepticfiles.org/rumor/vaticanz.htm
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-3975351.html
" (1989) VATICAN CITY The Vatican told Catholics on Thursday that some aspects of yoga, Zen and other forms of Oriental meditation can "degenerate into a cult of the body" and are not a substitute for Christian prayer.A document issued by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Roman Catholic Church's guardian of orthodoxy, said genuine Christian mysticism is not a question of technique and warned Catholics not to confuse the pleasure derived from some forms of meditation with a relationship with God.
The 23-page document, signed by the West German congregation head Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, was believed the first time the Vatican sought to respond to the pull of Eastern religious practices.
By Eastern methods, the document said, it was referring to practices inspired by Hinduism and Buddhism such as Zen, Transcendental Meditation and yoga, which [may] involve prescribed postures and controlled breathing.
The document, approved by Pope John Paul II and addressed to bishops, said attempts to combine Christian meditation with Eastern techniques were fraught with danger although they can have positive uses.
& from the source:
JESUS CHRIST AND THE PEOPLES OF OCEANIA: WALKING HIS WAY,TELLING HIS TRUTH,LIVING HIS LIFE
LINEAMENTA, VATICAN CITY,1997
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/synod/documents/rc_synod_doc_26091997_oce-lineam_en.html
Particular Points
24. Not all the sects and new religious movements in Oceania have Christian roots. Among the more popular are forms of self-improvement that go back to Eastern traditions, such as yoga or Buddhist meditation. Ashrams and centres of Zen or Buddhist meditation can be found as welcomed refuges from the frenetic rush of life in the big city. In their acceptable forms, these often offer help to people in need. However, they may also be the cause of Catholics moving away from their faith for various reasons.
A widely diffused form of contemporary spirituality is New Age. Linked to the process of secularisation, this movement draws elements from the Jewish and Christian traditions as well as from Gnosticism and Oriental religions. Its followers believe that a new consciousness has dawned on the planet which will make all religion and philosophy out-dated. This would seem to be a radical reaction to the lack of values which has come to characterise an industrialised, technological culture of mass consumption and mass communication.
- so from Vatican website it seems they are not so conserned about yoga... and well, origially - they should not be, as Jesus told (take it literally or not, it's your coiche) "My yoga is simple".
16 December 2010 22:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I do not see yogis running around in paranoia and telling that if you are born in Muslim or Christian community you will be possessed by bad spirits and you should ONLY do yoga or you will be doomed. They like have no secrets, lies, fear & hate... Makes one think uh?
16 December 2010 17:34
Margus Meigo commented on Maiken Tulev's post.
Internet ongi selleks, et saaksime piisavalt teadmisi ning julgust, et tehnoloogiast vabaks murda, aru saamiseks suurtematest asjadest ... selle pärast ka suured kogused midaginases siia laetakse ülesse :)
14 December 2010 18:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Me tõlgendame kõike esmajärjekorras sellisel nagu ise oleme, momendil, mitte nagu arvame teised olevat.
14 December 2010 12:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
v.a. Fiat
12 December 2010 17:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
kiired ja vhased
12 December 2010 17:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Aeglane oled :)
... but i like it slow also
... but i like it slow also
10 December 2010 18:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Niih, voodi on müslist puhastatud.
10 December 2010 17:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ma mõtlesin müsli sees olevaid pähkleid, mitte nii pidi... sa ikka nii vallatu mõtlemisega Piret ;)
10 December 2010 17:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kuigi ma ise suure osa ajast müsli peal nüüd.
kuigi kama peal meeldis rohkem olla, sest on on ikka pehmem. Sees olevad pähklid on eriti ebamugavad
kuigi kama peal meeldis rohkem olla, sest on on ikka pehmem. Sees olevad pähklid on eriti ebamugavad
10 December 2010 17:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
see on tervislik
10 December 2010 17:13
Margus Meigo commented on Evelin Ilves's link.
Väga konarlik jutt tuli kiiruga postitades, kuid mõte tuli loodetavasti läbi :)
7 December 2010 14:11
Margus Meigo commented on Evelin Ilves's link.
Loodetavasti jõuavad tulevikus sellistel kohtadel inimesed ka nii enesekindlale kohale selles ühiskonnas, et julgevad ka oma otsest arvamust öelda ilma hirmuta millena seda keegi tõlgendab kuskil.
Alkoholile tulebki teiste ainete arvelt vastukampaaniat teha kui muidu ei saa. On väga palju keelatud aineid mis on tervislikumad, ning omavad nikotiini ja alkoholiga võrreldes nii väikest sõltuvus potensiaali, et kui aine tegelikust (mitte otsesest - algset silmaga nähtavast) toimest aru ei saaks siis oleks suht mõistatamatu miks kirik, valitsus & mited suuremad farmad & korporatsioonid/meedia nende vastu on :)
Alkohol ja ka suitsud PEAKSID olema eraldi poodides, mitte samas poes toiduainetega. Ma ei saa lihtsalt aru kuidas see võimalik on, et nad toiduainetega koos. Suitsud on veel eriti silme alla torgatud inimestele kui maksma hakab, et oleks võimatu sõltuvusest võõrdujall neid mitte näha.
Siis kui nad eraldi poodides oleks, siis tunneks osa inimesi ka ehk natuke häbi kui läheb alkoholi poodi või suitsu poodi eraldi. Lisaks oleks palju töökohti juures. Alko ja suitsu firmadel oleks need uued poed tagataskust maksta - kuid milleks peaksid nad seda praegu tegema, kui meie toiduketid ja valitsus lausa aitab neid rahavale peale suruda kõik võimalikul moel alates imikust saati? Alla 18 aastased siis näekski alkoholi riiulit (iga päevaselt kohe kindlasti mitte) sest sellistesse poodidesse oleks sisenemine ID kaardi alusel. Kui inimene reguleeritud sõltuvust tekitavat ja kahjuliku ainet tahab osta nagu alkohol siis loomulik oleks, et ainult dokumendi alusel saaks ta sinna siseneda. Lisaks saaksid sõltlased osad ennast ka ise sõltuvus listi vabatahtlikult panna nagu kasiinodega (mis enamvähem isegi toimib nüüd)
Kuid seni kui meil ei ole julget valitsust ja poliitikuid kes julgeksid alkoholi ja tubaka firmade vastu astuda, või õigemini mitte vastu vaid lihtsalt lõpetaks nende otsese toetamise kõikvõimalikul moel - seni on igasugune teavitus kampaania üksinda jms raha ja aja raiskamine täis nali enamuse rahava jaoks.
Alkoholile tulebki teiste ainete arvelt vastukampaaniat teha kui muidu ei saa. On väga palju keelatud aineid mis on tervislikumad, ning omavad nikotiini ja alkoholiga võrreldes nii väikest sõltuvus potensiaali, et kui aine tegelikust (mitte otsesest - algset silmaga nähtavast) toimest aru ei saaks siis oleks suht mõistatamatu miks kirik, valitsus & mited suuremad farmad & korporatsioonid/meedia nende vastu on :)
Alkohol ja ka suitsud PEAKSID olema eraldi poodides, mitte samas poes toiduainetega. Ma ei saa lihtsalt aru kuidas see võimalik on, et nad toiduainetega koos. Suitsud on veel eriti silme alla torgatud inimestele kui maksma hakab, et oleks võimatu sõltuvusest võõrdujall neid mitte näha.
Siis kui nad eraldi poodides oleks, siis tunneks osa inimesi ka ehk natuke häbi kui läheb alkoholi poodi või suitsu poodi eraldi. Lisaks oleks palju töökohti juures. Alko ja suitsu firmadel oleks need uued poed tagataskust maksta - kuid milleks peaksid nad seda praegu tegema, kui meie toiduketid ja valitsus lausa aitab neid rahavale peale suruda kõik võimalikul moel alates imikust saati? Alla 18 aastased siis näekski alkoholi riiulit (iga päevaselt kohe kindlasti mitte) sest sellistesse poodidesse oleks sisenemine ID kaardi alusel. Kui inimene reguleeritud sõltuvust tekitavat ja kahjuliku ainet tahab osta nagu alkohol siis loomulik oleks, et ainult dokumendi alusel saaks ta sinna siseneda. Lisaks saaksid sõltlased osad ennast ka ise sõltuvus listi vabatahtlikult panna nagu kasiinodega (mis enamvähem isegi toimib nüüd)
Kuid seni kui meil ei ole julget valitsust ja poliitikuid kes julgeksid alkoholi ja tubaka firmade vastu astuda, või õigemini mitte vastu vaid lihtsalt lõpetaks nende otsese toetamise kõikvõimalikul moel - seni on igasugune teavitus kampaania üksinda jms raha ja aja raiskamine täis nali enamuse rahava jaoks.
7 December 2010 13:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(Lugege täis artiklit & soovitan kõigile ka Jaanus Harro : Uimastite Maailm'a lugeda)
Ehk kunagi need inimesed saavad ka piisavalt julgeks, et ei karda enam öelda enda otsest arvamust mis oleks reaalselt parem. Kuid praegu värisetakse selle ees mida meedia mõne su lausega teha võib ja siis jäätaksegi vakka... ning mass jääb selliseks nagu ta on..
Ehk kunagi need inimesed saavad ka piisavalt julgeks, et ei karda enam öelda enda otsest arvamust mis oleks reaalselt parem. Kuid praegu värisetakse selle ees mida meedia mõne su lausega teha võib ja siis jäätaksegi vakka... ning mass jääb selliseks nagu ta on..
7 December 2010 12:53
Margus Meigo commented on Voldemar Kolga's link.
Mõtteid võib võtta kui viiruseid, see suht elementaarne. Samamoodi nagu erinevad ideoloogiad, arusaamad/'tarkus' ja uskumused on vaksiinid nende vastu. Ei ole raske mõista - kui mingi aine/idee takistab teatud viiruse või idee levikut, siis see ei tähenda, et to just see õige on. Ainuüksi selle pärast see lihtsamalt ja loogilisemalt seletatav teatud teadvuses olevatele inimestele eelneva info põhjal mis neil reaalsuse kohta on.
6 December 2010 15:53
Margus Meigo commented on Voldemar Kolga's link.
Mäletan kui kunagi ta tunnise vestluse Austin Fletcher'iga lõpuni vaatasin, vahepeal küll tundus, et ta mitte ei ole rahulik - vaid proovib olla :)
Kuid mulle rohkem ja rohkem tundub, et Dennett usub' teadvus'/reaalsus olevat ainult ajus või siis äärmisel juhul natuke ka kehas kuid ei midagi enamat. Ta toob küll huvitavaid humoorikaid jutte trikkidest ja lihtsast loogikast mis seletab inimestele kui kergesti neid ja nende aju saab uskuma panna asju mida pole olemas,et inimesed otsivad midagi keerulist mis on lihtne, tahetakse midagi mis on seletamatu mitte arusaadav kuid.. Kas see pole natuke piirav kui seal lõpetame, et ainult see mida silmaga näeme ja mida meie tehtud instrumentidega mõõta saame - see ongi kõik ?
Kui inimesed ei tegele alternatiivsete teadvus seisunditega siis tõepoolest - reaalsus kui selline võib suht kuiv tunduda imho ning ka depresiivsem ning enesekesksem.
Kuid mulle rohkem ja rohkem tundub, et Dennett usub' teadvus'/reaalsus olevat ainult ajus või siis äärmisel juhul natuke ka kehas kuid ei midagi enamat. Ta toob küll huvitavaid humoorikaid jutte trikkidest ja lihtsast loogikast mis seletab inimestele kui kergesti neid ja nende aju saab uskuma panna asju mida pole olemas,et inimesed otsivad midagi keerulist mis on lihtne, tahetakse midagi mis on seletamatu mitte arusaadav kuid.. Kas see pole natuke piirav kui seal lõpetame, et ainult see mida silmaga näeme ja mida meie tehtud instrumentidega mõõta saame - see ongi kõik ?
Kui inimesed ei tegele alternatiivsete teadvus seisunditega siis tõepoolest - reaalsus kui selline võib suht kuiv tunduda imho ning ka depresiivsem ning enesekesksem.
6 December 2010 15:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
ha-ha :D
Kusjuures naljakas ongi, et paljud inimesed päriselt arvavad, et tegu on vandenõuTEOORIAGA. Või pigem, nad ei arva - rohkem nagu emotsiooni levelil tegeletakse asjadega siin munal enamasti kahjuks :)
Kusjuures naljakas ongi, et paljud inimesed päriselt arvavad, et tegu on vandenõuTEOORIAGA. Või pigem, nad ei arva - rohkem nagu emotsiooni levelil tegeletakse asjadega siin munal enamasti kahjuks :)
6 December 2010 12:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.robohara.com/?p=2750
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMA8rNmBlek Inside the Fortified, Nuke-Proof Bunker that's Now Hosting Wikileaks )
Oh, and one other thing. WikiLeaks has, available for download, something called an “insurance file”. It’s encrypted with AES 256-bit encryption. It’s also 1.4 gigs in size, which is a lot of … something — documents, presumedly. No one publicly has the password needed to decrypt the file, but you can rest assured that should something happen to WikiLeaks and/or Julian Assange, that (A) that password will be released and (B) all hell will break loose.
Wikileaks 101 — What You Should Know
The story of WikiLeaks, specifically regarding the developments over the past week, is (I think) one of the biggest news stories of my lifetime … and yet, the majority of the people I talk to either don’t know or don’t care about what’s going on. Perhaps it’s because the conversations quickly turn technical, or maybe it’s because people don’t fully understand what’s going on right now.
A “wiki” is an online application designed to let multiple people share, edit, and read multiple documents. They can be broad in range like the well-known Wikipeida (a wiki-based encyclopedia), medium-sized (like the Dungeons and Dragons Wiki) or very specific in nature (the Lostpedia is dedicated to the television show Lost).
WikiLeaks is a wiki of leaked document. It launched in 2006, it is non-profit, and it’s public — meaning, anyone who wishes to contribute documents to the site can. And while many people who work on or contribute to Wikileaks prefer to remain anonymous, one who does not is its director, the very public (and now infamous) Julian Assange.
There is good reason that most of the people working on WikiLeaks wish to remain anonymous. For example, after publishing the Australian Communications and Media Authority censorship blacklist in March of 2009, German police raided the home of Theodor Reppe, registrant of the German WikiLeaks domain name. Earlier this year, Jacob Appelbaum represented and spoke on behalf of WikiLeaks at the annual HOPE (Hackers On Planet Earth) conference. According to Wikipedia, “[u]pon returning to the U.S. from the Netherlands, Appelbaum was detained for three hours at the airport by U.S. agents, according to anonymous sources. The sources told Cnet that Appelbaum’s bag was searched, receipts from his bag were photocopied, his laptop was inspected, although in what manner was unclear. Appelbaum reportedly refused to answer questions without a lawyer present, and was not allowed to make a phone call. His three mobile phones were reportedly taken and not returned. On 31 July, he spoke at a Defcon conference and mentioned his phone being “seized”. After speaking, he was approached by two FBI agents and questioned.”
The debate as to whether or not what WikiLeaks is doing is even illegal is a hot topic. Members of the US Government says it is, and that the release of classified government documents amounts to treason. WikiLeaks, for its part, says they’re not the ones who leaked the documents in the first place — they just made them available.
Last week, war was declared on WikiLeaks in cyberspace. First, an enormous distributed denial of service (DDoS) attack was waged against WikiLeaks’ servers, knocking them offline. WikiLeaks then migrated to Amazon, but after the attacks continued, Amazon gave them the boot, citing a violation of their terms of service. That’s a pretty common excuse companies use when they want (or are forced) to terminate your business agreement. In fact, yesterday, PayPal closed WikiLeaks’ PayPal account for — guess what — a violation of their terms of service. In the midst of these attacks, hackers attacked WikiLeaks’ DNS host, to the point where service for over half a million websites (including WikiLeaks) was being affected. WikiLeaks moved their data to servers in France, but that server has since been taken offline now as well. Currently, the WikiLeaks website is being hosted in an old nuclear bunker, one hundred feet underground. And while the data is now physically safe, there’s still a battle as to how to get to it — WikiLeaks.org no longer works. WikiLeaks.fr now forwards to WikiLeaks.ch, which will get you to the site.
The attacks against WikiLeaks and specifically Julian Assange haven’t been limited to cyberspace. For starters, InterPol has issued a warrant for the arrest of Mr. Assange for (get ready for it) “having consensual sex with a woman without using a condom in Sweden.” At least InterPol is being civil about it. Washington Times columnist Jeffrey T. Kuhner put it a bit more bluntly: “News reports say the WikiLeaks founder is hiding out in England. If that’s true, we should treat Mr. Assange the same way as other high-value terrorist targets: Kill him.”
Pissing off individuals or even corporations is one thing; pissing off entire governments (plural) is something else. It seems unlikely that Assange will be able to hide forever — or for all that long, really. Assange is said to be hiding out in England at the moment, but with the US, Australia, and Sweden actively looking for him, he’s going to have to lie low for perhaps years — or, you know, get one of those Hollywood masks. (click orig link to see urls)
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMA8rNmBlek Inside the Fortified, Nuke-Proof Bunker that's Now Hosting Wikileaks )
Oh, and one other thing. WikiLeaks has, available for download, something called an “insurance file”. It’s encrypted with AES 256-bit encryption. It’s also 1.4 gigs in size, which is a lot of … something — documents, presumedly. No one publicly has the password needed to decrypt the file, but you can rest assured that should something happen to WikiLeaks and/or Julian Assange, that (A) that password will be released and (B) all hell will break loose.
Wikileaks 101 — What You Should Know
The story of WikiLeaks, specifically regarding the developments over the past week, is (I think) one of the biggest news stories of my lifetime … and yet, the majority of the people I talk to either don’t know or don’t care about what’s going on. Perhaps it’s because the conversations quickly turn technical, or maybe it’s because people don’t fully understand what’s going on right now.
A “wiki” is an online application designed to let multiple people share, edit, and read multiple documents. They can be broad in range like the well-known Wikipeida (a wiki-based encyclopedia), medium-sized (like the Dungeons and Dragons Wiki) or very specific in nature (the Lostpedia is dedicated to the television show Lost).
WikiLeaks is a wiki of leaked document. It launched in 2006, it is non-profit, and it’s public — meaning, anyone who wishes to contribute documents to the site can. And while many people who work on or contribute to Wikileaks prefer to remain anonymous, one who does not is its director, the very public (and now infamous) Julian Assange.
There is good reason that most of the people working on WikiLeaks wish to remain anonymous. For example, after publishing the Australian Communications and Media Authority censorship blacklist in March of 2009, German police raided the home of Theodor Reppe, registrant of the German WikiLeaks domain name. Earlier this year, Jacob Appelbaum represented and spoke on behalf of WikiLeaks at the annual HOPE (Hackers On Planet Earth) conference. According to Wikipedia, “[u]pon returning to the U.S. from the Netherlands, Appelbaum was detained for three hours at the airport by U.S. agents, according to anonymous sources. The sources told Cnet that Appelbaum’s bag was searched, receipts from his bag were photocopied, his laptop was inspected, although in what manner was unclear. Appelbaum reportedly refused to answer questions without a lawyer present, and was not allowed to make a phone call. His three mobile phones were reportedly taken and not returned. On 31 July, he spoke at a Defcon conference and mentioned his phone being “seized”. After speaking, he was approached by two FBI agents and questioned.”
The debate as to whether or not what WikiLeaks is doing is even illegal is a hot topic. Members of the US Government says it is, and that the release of classified government documents amounts to treason. WikiLeaks, for its part, says they’re not the ones who leaked the documents in the first place — they just made them available.
Last week, war was declared on WikiLeaks in cyberspace. First, an enormous distributed denial of service (DDoS) attack was waged against WikiLeaks’ servers, knocking them offline. WikiLeaks then migrated to Amazon, but after the attacks continued, Amazon gave them the boot, citing a violation of their terms of service. That’s a pretty common excuse companies use when they want (or are forced) to terminate your business agreement. In fact, yesterday, PayPal closed WikiLeaks’ PayPal account for — guess what — a violation of their terms of service. In the midst of these attacks, hackers attacked WikiLeaks’ DNS host, to the point where service for over half a million websites (including WikiLeaks) was being affected. WikiLeaks moved their data to servers in France, but that server has since been taken offline now as well. Currently, the WikiLeaks website is being hosted in an old nuclear bunker, one hundred feet underground. And while the data is now physically safe, there’s still a battle as to how to get to it — WikiLeaks.org no longer works. WikiLeaks.fr now forwards to WikiLeaks.ch, which will get you to the site.
The attacks against WikiLeaks and specifically Julian Assange haven’t been limited to cyberspace. For starters, InterPol has issued a warrant for the arrest of Mr. Assange for (get ready for it) “having consensual sex with a woman without using a condom in Sweden.” At least InterPol is being civil about it. Washington Times columnist Jeffrey T. Kuhner put it a bit more bluntly: “News reports say the WikiLeaks founder is hiding out in England. If that’s true, we should treat Mr. Assange the same way as other high-value terrorist targets: Kill him.”
Pissing off individuals or even corporations is one thing; pissing off entire governments (plural) is something else. It seems unlikely that Assange will be able to hide forever — or for all that long, really. Assange is said to be hiding out in England at the moment, but with the US, Australia, and Sweden actively looking for him, he’s going to have to lie low for perhaps years — or, you know, get one of those Hollywood masks. (click orig link to see urls)
6 December 2010 03:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Three Lessons from WikiLeaks: How the Internet is Changing Information Warfare
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/media/three-lessons-from-wikileaks-how-the-internet-is-changing-infor/19746697/
1) Independent groups can successfully compete with governments in the cyber realm:
2) It's easier for independent players to gain mainstream-media attention than ever before:
3) It will be increasingly difficult to undermine financial support for these types of independent players:
Julian Assange Conneced to DARPA Hacker
http://spitfirelist.com/news/julian-assange-conneced-to-darpa-hacker/
Assange is part of a hacker milieu that includes one Peiter Zatko, aka “Mudge”, a celebrated hacker currently employed by Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency to strengthen cybersecurity. This is a connection that raises more questions than it answers.
Palin criticizes the Obama administration's handling of the 'WikiLeaks Fiasco' and asks why Julian Assange is not treated like an Al Qaeda or Taliban leader.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2010/1130/WikiLeaks-Julian-Assange-Does-Sarah-Palin-think-CIA-should-neutralize-him
The release of US diplomatic cables by WikiLeaks contains some serious stuff: US diplomats have been trying to steal the credit card numbers of top UN officials, Saudi Arabia is putting pressure on the US to attack Iran, Iran has obtained advanced long-range missiles from North Korea. Other cables are not so earth-shaking, but they nonetheless reveal personalities and events that are comical, surprising, or just plain weird. Here's our top five:
Cablegate: Washington Times Columnist Calls For Assange's Assassination
http://www.neontommy.com/news/2010/12/cablegate-washington-times-columnist-calls-assanges-assassination
As Assange's arrest looms, WikiLeaks has struggled to keep its website accessible after such service providers as Amazon dropped contracts. On Friday, a U.S.-based domain name provider shut down WikiLeaks (though it later re-emerged on both Swiss and German domains.) And on Saturday, the online payment service provider PayPal cut off its account used to collect donations, saying the website was engaged in illegal activity. (Wikileaks.ee also works!)
WikiLeaks: Google attacks ordered by Li Changchun
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/05/the-us-embassy-cables-china
Li Changchun, China's fifth most powerful man, was named by US diplomats as the alleged orchestrator of hacker attacks on Google's email systems
Google then came under pressure to drop the link to Google.com, culminating in the hacker attack last winter, part of which was aimed at the Gmail accounts of Chinese human rights activists.
Charge ex-Harper aide for 'assassinate Julian Assange' comment: lawyer
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Charge+Harper+aide+assassinate+Julian+Assange+comment+lawyer/3931327/story.html
A B.C. lawyer has filed a complaint with the Vancouver police, urging them to investigate whether Tom Flanagan, a former campaign manager for Prime Minister Stephen Harper, broke the law when he said WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange should be assassinated.
Wikileaks and the Limits of Law and Patience
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2010/12/05/wikileaks-and-the-limits-of-law-and-patience/
None of this is to say that Assange should go scot free. He shouldn’t. Neither should the Wikileaks advisory board or any of its 1,200 alleged volunteers.
Assange and Wikileaks has crossed a Rubicon which cannot be tolerated. If one goes back in history we find that groups like Wikileaks have been open to attack by the international community. Piracy, for instance, was stamped out by declaring pirates and their support networks hostis humani generis or ‘enemies of mankind.’
?
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/120210-sarah-palin-target-wikileaks-assange.html?hpg1=bn
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_711534.html
Peiter Zatko, who is known in the hacker world as Mudge, is in charge of the Cyber Insider Threat program at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, or DARPA, which was created in 1958 as a response to the Soviet Union's Sputnik satellite launch.
"I've played both offense and defense," said Zatko, who began hacking as a teenager in the 1980s, but then switched sides to help the government protect systems in the '90s. "I've been the person tasked with breaking into systems and I've also been tasked with defending them. I look at what I would do to impede myself."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/05/administration-fed-workers-dont-read-wikileaks/
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/11/29/1545319/how-stuff-works-how-wikileaks.html
http://www.silobreaker.com/world-reacts-to-wikileaks-release-5_2263897652229832704
& a lot more: http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=Julian-Assange+OR+wikileaks
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/media/three-lessons-from-wikileaks-how-the-internet-is-changing-infor/19746697/
1) Independent groups can successfully compete with governments in the cyber realm:
2) It's easier for independent players to gain mainstream-media attention than ever before:
3) It will be increasingly difficult to undermine financial support for these types of independent players:
Julian Assange Conneced to DARPA Hacker
http://spitfirelist.com/news/julian-assange-conneced-to-darpa-hacker/
Assange is part of a hacker milieu that includes one Peiter Zatko, aka “Mudge”, a celebrated hacker currently employed by Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency to strengthen cybersecurity. This is a connection that raises more questions than it answers.
Palin criticizes the Obama administration's handling of the 'WikiLeaks Fiasco' and asks why Julian Assange is not treated like an Al Qaeda or Taliban leader.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2010/1130/WikiLeaks-Julian-Assange-Does-Sarah-Palin-think-CIA-should-neutralize-him
The release of US diplomatic cables by WikiLeaks contains some serious stuff: US diplomats have been trying to steal the credit card numbers of top UN officials, Saudi Arabia is putting pressure on the US to attack Iran, Iran has obtained advanced long-range missiles from North Korea. Other cables are not so earth-shaking, but they nonetheless reveal personalities and events that are comical, surprising, or just plain weird. Here's our top five:
Cablegate: Washington Times Columnist Calls For Assange's Assassination
http://www.neontommy.com/news/2010/12/cablegate-washington-times-columnist-calls-assanges-assassination
As Assange's arrest looms, WikiLeaks has struggled to keep its website accessible after such service providers as Amazon dropped contracts. On Friday, a U.S.-based domain name provider shut down WikiLeaks (though it later re-emerged on both Swiss and German domains.) And on Saturday, the online payment service provider PayPal cut off its account used to collect donations, saying the website was engaged in illegal activity. (Wikileaks.ee also works!)
WikiLeaks: Google attacks ordered by Li Changchun
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/05/the-us-embassy-cables-china
Li Changchun, China's fifth most powerful man, was named by US diplomats as the alleged orchestrator of hacker attacks on Google's email systems
Google then came under pressure to drop the link to Google.com, culminating in the hacker attack last winter, part of which was aimed at the Gmail accounts of Chinese human rights activists.
Charge ex-Harper aide for 'assassinate Julian Assange' comment: lawyer
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Charge+Harper+aide+assassinate+Julian+Assange+comment+lawyer/3931327/story.html
A B.C. lawyer has filed a complaint with the Vancouver police, urging them to investigate whether Tom Flanagan, a former campaign manager for Prime Minister Stephen Harper, broke the law when he said WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange should be assassinated.
Wikileaks and the Limits of Law and Patience
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2010/12/05/wikileaks-and-the-limits-of-law-and-patience/
None of this is to say that Assange should go scot free. He shouldn’t. Neither should the Wikileaks advisory board or any of its 1,200 alleged volunteers.
Assange and Wikileaks has crossed a Rubicon which cannot be tolerated. If one goes back in history we find that groups like Wikileaks have been open to attack by the international community. Piracy, for instance, was stamped out by declaring pirates and their support networks hostis humani generis or ‘enemies of mankind.’
?
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/120210-sarah-palin-target-wikileaks-assange.html?hpg1=bn
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_711534.html
Peiter Zatko, who is known in the hacker world as Mudge, is in charge of the Cyber Insider Threat program at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, or DARPA, which was created in 1958 as a response to the Soviet Union's Sputnik satellite launch.
"I've played both offense and defense," said Zatko, who began hacking as a teenager in the 1980s, but then switched sides to help the government protect systems in the '90s. "I've been the person tasked with breaking into systems and I've also been tasked with defending them. I look at what I would do to impede myself."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/05/administration-fed-workers-dont-read-wikileaks/
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/11/29/1545319/how-stuff-works-how-wikileaks.html
http://www.silobreaker.com/world-reacts-to-wikileaks-release-5_2263897652229832704
& a lot more: http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=Julian-Assange+OR+wikileaks
6 December 2010 02:55
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's post.
See kõige geym asi mis mulle meeldinud vaadata on, x factorist :D:D
Dude got some balls... okey, maybe wrong time to use this expression :D
Dude got some balls... okey, maybe wrong time to use this expression :D
5 December 2010 21:32
Margus Meigo commented on Dmitry Groz's post.
fk the TV! :P
3 December 2010 10:26
Margus Meigo commented on Seene Nõid's post.
Pürgin sinna poole, looks promising - we are not there before we are there.. and when we are there - do we know we are there? :)
Üks nimi keda ülesse vaadata on Robert Moss
http://www.dreamprophesy.com/fascinating-q-a-with-dream-expert-and-author-robert-moss/ to Leiden universtist ka juhib neid õpinguid
http://research.leiden.edu/news/sleepless-in-leiden.html - (see see universty mis on Bilderberg grupi nö peamaja ning kus maailma juhtivad inimesed käivad õppimas kuidas meid paremini juhtida - just ka selle pärast see nimi huvitav, Inception mäletad eks ? ;) Kuula, loe but be awere..
Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche (The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep) kindlasti nimi keda ülesse vaadata ja Stephen LaBerge ka siit valgete poolt teaduslikult poolt peaks ka teadma nii mõndagi. Siis veel vist Robert Waggoner ja Marc Vandekeere - kuigi ma ei saa olla 100% veendunud, kas nad on "päris" või nagu enamus neist võltsidest kes internetis Astral projectidest räägivad ja teiste lugusi kokku vorbivad. Tunduvad esmapilgul ok.
Rinpoche aga peaks suht kindel panus olema :)
See ala, unenäod, alternatiiv reaalsused, energia, psi jne - see kõik on see mille peale mitte ainult USA vaid ka Venemaa valitsus tormi jookseb ja nüüd nad on hakanud rohkem avalikult ka sellest rääkima, kuna nad saavutanud teatud enesekindlust. Kuid mis enesekindlust? Mis levelil ? Miks ?
Meil ka tööriistad nagu seened ja LSD jpms mille läbi õigeid meele seisundeid ja austust kasutades, olles pidevalt "õppija" rollis - me saame ... well & we do not give it a name :)
Kuid yeah, kõige suurem expert oled sa lõpuks ainult ise, Sina ise :)
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I teach nothing new that you do not know, i am just a reflection of yourself - some may say... Do we generate knowledge and wisdom or we filter it out ?
Üks nimi keda ülesse vaadata on Robert Moss
http://www.dreamprophesy.com/fascinating-q-a-with-dream-expert-and-author-robert-moss/ to Leiden universtist ka juhib neid õpinguid
http://research.leiden.edu/news/sleepless-in-leiden.html - (see see universty mis on Bilderberg grupi nö peamaja ning kus maailma juhtivad inimesed käivad õppimas kuidas meid paremini juhtida - just ka selle pärast see nimi huvitav, Inception mäletad eks ? ;) Kuula, loe but be awere..
Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche (The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep) kindlasti nimi keda ülesse vaadata ja Stephen LaBerge ka siit valgete poolt teaduslikult poolt peaks ka teadma nii mõndagi. Siis veel vist Robert Waggoner ja Marc Vandekeere - kuigi ma ei saa olla 100% veendunud, kas nad on "päris" või nagu enamus neist võltsidest kes internetis Astral projectidest räägivad ja teiste lugusi kokku vorbivad. Tunduvad esmapilgul ok.
Rinpoche aga peaks suht kindel panus olema :)
See ala, unenäod, alternatiiv reaalsused, energia, psi jne - see kõik on see mille peale mitte ainult USA vaid ka Venemaa valitsus tormi jookseb ja nüüd nad on hakanud rohkem avalikult ka sellest rääkima, kuna nad saavutanud teatud enesekindlust. Kuid mis enesekindlust? Mis levelil ? Miks ?
Meil ka tööriistad nagu seened ja LSD jpms mille läbi õigeid meele seisundeid ja austust kasutades, olles pidevalt "õppija" rollis - me saame ... well & we do not give it a name :)
Kuid yeah, kõige suurem expert oled sa lõpuks ainult ise, Sina ise :)
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I teach nothing new that you do not know, i am just a reflection of yourself - some may say... Do we generate knowledge and wisdom or we filter it out ?
2 December 2010 15:37
Margus Meigo commented on Seene Nõid's post.
Nu kui sa NY elaksid mõnes nurgalisemas kohas siis see võibki reaalne olla :)
Kuid yeah, unenäod on huvitavad fenomenid - teadlased siiani uurivad. Kui tahad aste kõrgemale minna ja enda muid maailmu uuele tasemele viia, siis järgmine kord unenäos proovi vaadata oma peopesi teadlikult, järjepidevalt harjuta seda kuni selle seisundi saavutad, see püüdlus on rohkem kui väärt, you will see.. :)
Kuid yeah, unenäod on huvitavad fenomenid - teadlased siiani uurivad. Kui tahad aste kõrgemale minna ja enda muid maailmu uuele tasemele viia, siis järgmine kord unenäos proovi vaadata oma peopesi teadlikult, järjepidevalt harjuta seda kuni selle seisundi saavutad, see püüdlus on rohkem kui väärt, you will see.. :)
2 December 2010 12:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The Genome Wager
The wager arose from Rupert's debate with Lewis Wolpert, The Nature of Life - a Scientific Debate at the Cambridge Science Festival, March 20th 2009.
The papers presented by both participants and details of the wager...
What can DNA tell us?
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/genomewager.html
Richard Dawkins
The crusading atheist visited Rupert in 2007 to interview him for his TV series Enemies of Reason:
Rupert's article...
Richard Dawkins Comes to Call:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/Dawkins.html
Skepticism
by Rupert Sheldrake
Healthy skepticism plays an important part in science, and stimulates research and critical thinking. Healthy skeptics are open-minded and interested in evidence. By contrast, dogmatic skeptics are committed to the belief that "paranormal" phenomena are impossible
Skepticism:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/Sheldrake_skepticism.html
The Perrott-Warrick Public Debate - Does Telepathy Happen?
Rupert debates with Prof Chris French, Prof Simon Blackburn in the chair
Live Audio Recording (1hr 52min). from Trinity Hall Cambridge, 29th November 2006
http://www.sheldrake.org/B&R/realaudio/Sheldrak&French281106.mp3
Rupert at the BA Festival of Science UEA Norwich Sept 2-9th 2006
Rupert's paper on Telephone Telepathy was widely reported in the media and gave rise to a major controversy. Full details, including press comments, audio interviews and discussions, and articles...
BA Science Festival 2006:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/BA06.html
Sheldrake and his Critics: The sense of being glared at.
A special edition of the Journal of Consciousness Studies (JCS Vol 12 No. 6, 2005)
In this special edition of JCS Rupert summarises his case for the 'non-visual detection of staring'. His claims are scrutinised by fourteen critics, to whom Rupert then responds.
The Sense of being Stared At Special JCS eidtion:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/JCS_intro.html
The Telepathy Debate
Professor Lewis Wolpert, FRS took part with Rupert in a debate on telepathy at the Royal Society of Arts in January 2004, which was reported in Nature and can be heard online here.
The RSA Debate:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/JCS_intro.html
Michael Shermer
Is the publisher of Skeptic magazine, the Director of the Skeptic Society, the host of the Skeptics' Lecture Series at the California Institute of Technology, and the author of a regular column in Scientific American called "Skeptic".
Shermer's attacks on Rupert's work:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/Shermer_intro.html
James Randi
Conjurer and the former Principal Investigator of CSICOP, the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal. He was named "Skeptic of the Century" in the January 2000 issue of The Skeptical Inquirer. For more on Randi's attempts to debunk Rupert's conclusions...
Randi's debunking:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/randi.html
Rupert comments on the disappointing interview with James Randi by Chris French
Skeptic letters:
http://www.skeptic.org.uk/component/content/article/541
Dr Richard Wiseman
Conjurer and professional Skeptic based at the University of Hertfordshire in England, a Consultant Editor of The Skeptical Inquirer , and a Research Fellow of CSICOP. He attempted to debunk Rupert's work on dogs.
Wiseman's attempted debunking:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/wiseman.html
However, he admitted in his recent Skeptiko interview, that his data does correspond with Sheldrake's.
Skeptic demonstrates psi:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/Wiseman_psi.html
In a recent debate with Rupert, there was wide disagreement over parapsychology experiments (8th March 2010).
Sheldrake and Wiseman on Skeptiko:
http://www.skeptiko.com/rupert-sheldrake-and-richard-wiseman-clash/
JSPR has published a penetrating critique by Chris Carter of Richard Wiseman's latest attack on parapsychology - his 'Heads I win, tails you lose' paper published in Skeptical Inquirer.
Chris Carter's reply...
A Response to Wiseman’s (2010) Critique of Parapsychology:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/Carter_Wiseman.pdf
Dr David Marks
CSICOP Fellow and professor at City University, London.
He is the author of The Psychology of the Psychic (2000), in which he rejects a wide range of "paranormal" phenomena, including Rupert's research on the sense of being stared at. He attacked this research in 2000 in the Skeptical Inquirer in an article co-authored with John Colwell.
Rupert's reply in the Skeptical Inquirer:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/marks.html
He attacked this research again in 2003 in The Skeptic, and also tried to explain away Rupert's work on return-anticipating dogs.
Rupert's reply in The Skeptic:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/marks_sheldrake_2003.html
The late Sir John Maddox, Emeritus Editor of the scientific journal Nature.
Rupert's oldest critic, he was the author of the infamous "candidate for burning" editorial in Nature in 1981 about Rupert's first book, A New Science of Life
For more on the controversy between Rupert and Sir John Maddox
The Maddox controversy:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/maddox.html
Maddox repeated his 'heresy' charge on You Tube 'A Book for Burning' video clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRjQmZLT8bI
Dr Robert A. Baker
Retired psychology professor at the University of Kentucky, and a CSICOP Fellow.
In the Skeptical Inquirer he dismissed the sense of being stared at as false.
Baker's demonstrations:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/baker.html
Robert Todd Carroll produces "The Skeptic's Dictionary" on the internet. According to his Wikipedia entry, he is a "longtime advocate of atheism and scientific skepticism". His Ph.D. is on a seventeeth century bishop, and he teaches philosophy at Sacramento City College. He made some misleading comments on morphic resonance and on research I conducted with Aimee Morgana on her parrot N'kisi, to which I reply here.
Rupert's replies to Carroll:
On the N'kisi research
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/carroll.html#nkisi
On the theory of Morphic Resonance
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/carroll.html#morphic
P.Z. Myers: Rupert in psi controversy
"Expelling Sheldrake"
Daily Grail interview
http://dailygrail.com/news/expelling-sheldrake
The European Skeptics Congress 2005
Rupert was invited to speak at the 12th European Skeptics Congress in Brussels in October 2005 where there was a debate on telepathy with Dr. Jan Willem Nienhuys of the Dutch skeptic organisation.
The European Skeptics Congress 2005 Debate
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/Euroskep_2005.html
Rupert's complaint against National Geographic
Rupert refered the National Geographic TV Channel to Ofcom over their programme "Is It Real? Psychic Animals" first broadcast in August 2005
Ofcom Adjudication in Rupert's favour
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/Ofcom_background.html
Controversy in British Columbia
Website skeptic Shannon Rupp objecting to Rupert's lecture at the University of British Columbia on 20th July 2006 inquired "Why is UBC promoting New Age pseudoscience?"
Rupp's article - full text Pitching Woo-Woo:
http://thetyee.ca/Views/2006/07/20/Sheldrake/
Rupert's reply to Shannon Rupp:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/BCcontrov_reply.html
The wager arose from Rupert's debate with Lewis Wolpert, The Nature of Life - a Scientific Debate at the Cambridge Science Festival, March 20th 2009.
The papers presented by both participants and details of the wager...
What can DNA tell us?
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/genomewager.html
Richard Dawkins
The crusading atheist visited Rupert in 2007 to interview him for his TV series Enemies of Reason:
Rupert's article...
Richard Dawkins Comes to Call:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/Dawkins.html
Skepticism
by Rupert Sheldrake
Healthy skepticism plays an important part in science, and stimulates research and critical thinking. Healthy skeptics are open-minded and interested in evidence. By contrast, dogmatic skeptics are committed to the belief that "paranormal" phenomena are impossible
Skepticism:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/Sheldrake_skepticism.html
The Perrott-Warrick Public Debate - Does Telepathy Happen?
Rupert debates with Prof Chris French, Prof Simon Blackburn in the chair
Live Audio Recording (1hr 52min). from Trinity Hall Cambridge, 29th November 2006
http://www.sheldrake.org/B&R/realaudio/Sheldrak&French281106.mp3
Rupert at the BA Festival of Science UEA Norwich Sept 2-9th 2006
Rupert's paper on Telephone Telepathy was widely reported in the media and gave rise to a major controversy. Full details, including press comments, audio interviews and discussions, and articles...
BA Science Festival 2006:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/BA06.html
Sheldrake and his Critics: The sense of being glared at.
A special edition of the Journal of Consciousness Studies (JCS Vol 12 No. 6, 2005)
In this special edition of JCS Rupert summarises his case for the 'non-visual detection of staring'. His claims are scrutinised by fourteen critics, to whom Rupert then responds.
The Sense of being Stared At Special JCS eidtion:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/JCS_intro.html
The Telepathy Debate
Professor Lewis Wolpert, FRS took part with Rupert in a debate on telepathy at the Royal Society of Arts in January 2004, which was reported in Nature and can be heard online here.
The RSA Debate:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/JCS_intro.html
Michael Shermer
Is the publisher of Skeptic magazine, the Director of the Skeptic Society, the host of the Skeptics' Lecture Series at the California Institute of Technology, and the author of a regular column in Scientific American called "Skeptic".
Shermer's attacks on Rupert's work:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/Shermer_intro.html
James Randi
Conjurer and the former Principal Investigator of CSICOP, the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal. He was named "Skeptic of the Century" in the January 2000 issue of The Skeptical Inquirer. For more on Randi's attempts to debunk Rupert's conclusions...
Randi's debunking:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/randi.html
Rupert comments on the disappointing interview with James Randi by Chris French
Skeptic letters:
http://www.skeptic.org.uk/component/content/article/541
Dr Richard Wiseman
Conjurer and professional Skeptic based at the University of Hertfordshire in England, a Consultant Editor of The Skeptical Inquirer , and a Research Fellow of CSICOP. He attempted to debunk Rupert's work on dogs.
Wiseman's attempted debunking:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/wiseman.html
However, he admitted in his recent Skeptiko interview, that his data does correspond with Sheldrake's.
Skeptic demonstrates psi:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/Wiseman_psi.html
In a recent debate with Rupert, there was wide disagreement over parapsychology experiments (8th March 2010).
Sheldrake and Wiseman on Skeptiko:
http://www.skeptiko.com/rupert-sheldrake-and-richard-wiseman-clash/
JSPR has published a penetrating critique by Chris Carter of Richard Wiseman's latest attack on parapsychology - his 'Heads I win, tails you lose' paper published in Skeptical Inquirer.
Chris Carter's reply...
A Response to Wiseman’s (2010) Critique of Parapsychology:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/Carter_Wiseman.pdf
Dr David Marks
CSICOP Fellow and professor at City University, London.
He is the author of The Psychology of the Psychic (2000), in which he rejects a wide range of "paranormal" phenomena, including Rupert's research on the sense of being stared at. He attacked this research in 2000 in the Skeptical Inquirer in an article co-authored with John Colwell.
Rupert's reply in the Skeptical Inquirer:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/marks.html
He attacked this research again in 2003 in The Skeptic, and also tried to explain away Rupert's work on return-anticipating dogs.
Rupert's reply in The Skeptic:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/marks_sheldrake_2003.html
The late Sir John Maddox, Emeritus Editor of the scientific journal Nature.
Rupert's oldest critic, he was the author of the infamous "candidate for burning" editorial in Nature in 1981 about Rupert's first book, A New Science of Life
For more on the controversy between Rupert and Sir John Maddox
The Maddox controversy:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/maddox.html
Maddox repeated his 'heresy' charge on You Tube 'A Book for Burning' video clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRjQmZLT8bI
Dr Robert A. Baker
Retired psychology professor at the University of Kentucky, and a CSICOP Fellow.
In the Skeptical Inquirer he dismissed the sense of being stared at as false.
Baker's demonstrations:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/baker.html
Robert Todd Carroll produces "The Skeptic's Dictionary" on the internet. According to his Wikipedia entry, he is a "longtime advocate of atheism and scientific skepticism". His Ph.D. is on a seventeeth century bishop, and he teaches philosophy at Sacramento City College. He made some misleading comments on morphic resonance and on research I conducted with Aimee Morgana on her parrot N'kisi, to which I reply here.
Rupert's replies to Carroll:
On the N'kisi research
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/carroll.html#nkisi
On the theory of Morphic Resonance
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/carroll.html#morphic
P.Z. Myers: Rupert in psi controversy
"Expelling Sheldrake"
Daily Grail interview
http://dailygrail.com/news/expelling-sheldrake
The European Skeptics Congress 2005
Rupert was invited to speak at the 12th European Skeptics Congress in Brussels in October 2005 where there was a debate on telepathy with Dr. Jan Willem Nienhuys of the Dutch skeptic organisation.
The European Skeptics Congress 2005 Debate
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/Euroskep_2005.html
Rupert's complaint against National Geographic
Rupert refered the National Geographic TV Channel to Ofcom over their programme "Is It Real? Psychic Animals" first broadcast in August 2005
Ofcom Adjudication in Rupert's favour
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/Ofcom_background.html
Controversy in British Columbia
Website skeptic Shannon Rupp objecting to Rupert's lecture at the University of British Columbia on 20th July 2006 inquired "Why is UBC promoting New Age pseudoscience?"
Rupp's article - full text Pitching Woo-Woo:
http://thetyee.ca/Views/2006/07/20/Sheldrake/
Rupert's reply to Shannon Rupp:
http://www.sheldrake.org/D&C/controversies/BCcontrov_reply.html
30 November 2010 02:21
Margus Meigo commented on Arthur Hine's link.
Well, my view is more close to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5H7Z5sbh-c on this subject. Like NOW people worry about, like after they let them-self to be ripped from all the rights etc... THIS is now the one that is "big one" ? wtf i would say. I would not be surprised if its designed a way so people would start to fight against it and then they "win" and then they feel they have now won so much freedom and privacy, weeee we are free again! ... For me - well, dont care SO much for this airport scanners compared to all the other bigger things they do - as long it speeds up things.
... but yes, it is psychological terror one way or another... not sure witch option is best one.
bdw - many times the dogs are also just used for fear/psychological terror - and not that they can find so much. Specially many drug dogs in "drug" related parties. It has been personally confirmed few times.
... and after all - there is MANY long, good, WAY- far away trips one can take in ways that one does not need to enter to airplane and limit the flight with 10 miles high.. :)
... but yes, it is psychological terror one way or another... not sure witch option is best one.
bdw - many times the dogs are also just used for fear/psychological terror - and not that they can find so much. Specially many drug dogs in "drug" related parties. It has been personally confirmed few times.
... and after all - there is MANY long, good, WAY- far away trips one can take in ways that one does not need to enter to airplane and limit the flight with 10 miles high.. :)
29 November 2010 23:30
Margus Meigo commented on Kari Maripuu's post.
Group: M-Meedia
Aww :))
Mul on ühke tunne, et olin ka kollektiivi liige :)26 November 2010 23:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
eehe... yes, olen :)
Kuid yea.. ma vasti peterburgi selle aasta sees ja siis vb veel yhte teist.. kuid peaks aega leidma küll, peale kolmapäeva tuleb rohkem selgust kus ja millal :)
Kuid yea.. ma vasti peterburgi selle aasta sees ja siis vb veel yhte teist.. kuid peaks aega leidma küll, peale kolmapäeva tuleb rohkem selgust kus ja millal :)
26 November 2010 23:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Thanks Martin :)
Kuidas kulgenud on ?
Kuidas kulgenud on ?
25 November 2010 03:41
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Ree's post.
mul vanas korteris talvel köögis oli 5-6 kraadi tavaline :D
ahjaa... ja yxkord kylmus veetoru ära kraanikausi all:P
ahjaa... ja yxkord kylmus veetoru ära kraanikausi all:P
24 November 2010 23:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Also, take a look this guy related material:
The skeptical celebrity for The League of Scientists is Joe Nickell.
http://www.dbskeptic.com/2010/03/28/the-league-of-scientists-officially-knows-a-famous-person/
“Joe Nickell, Ph.D., is Senior Research Fellow of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry (CSI) – an international scientific organization – and an investigative columnist for Skeptical Inquirer magazine. He was formerly a professional stage magician and private investigator for a world-famous detective agency. Presently, he appears to be the world’s only full-time, salaried professional paranormal investigator.
Utilizing his varied background, Nickell has become widely known as an investigator of myths and mysteries, frauds, forgeries, and hoaxes. He has been called ‘the modern Sherlock Holmes’, ‘the original ghost buster’, and ‘the real-life Scully’ (from ‘The X-Files’ ). He has investigated scores of haunted-house cases, including the Amityville Horror and the Mackenzie House in Toronto, Canada.
Nickell is the author (co-author or editor) of more than twenty books.
That’s just a small sampling from a very large data set. The man is smart, he knows his stuff, and he has helped change the world for the better.
And yes – the reason for this article – he did read and review “The League of Scientists and the Ghost in the Water”. Here’s a portion of what he wrote:
“This adventure of The League of Scientists is… a wonderful introduction to scientific detective work and critical thinking skills – all wrapped up in a delicious mystery! Although the exploits are shared with young readers, this seasoned detective looks forward to the League’s next adventure.”
Joe Nickell
Forensic, Historical, and Paranormal Investigator
The skeptical celebrity for The League of Scientists is Joe Nickell.
http://www.dbskeptic.com/2010/03/28/the-league-of-scientists-officially-knows-a-famous-person/
“Joe Nickell, Ph.D., is Senior Research Fellow of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry (CSI) – an international scientific organization – and an investigative columnist for Skeptical Inquirer magazine. He was formerly a professional stage magician and private investigator for a world-famous detective agency. Presently, he appears to be the world’s only full-time, salaried professional paranormal investigator.
Utilizing his varied background, Nickell has become widely known as an investigator of myths and mysteries, frauds, forgeries, and hoaxes. He has been called ‘the modern Sherlock Holmes’, ‘the original ghost buster’, and ‘the real-life Scully’ (from ‘The X-Files’ ). He has investigated scores of haunted-house cases, including the Amityville Horror and the Mackenzie House in Toronto, Canada.
Nickell is the author (co-author or editor) of more than twenty books.
That’s just a small sampling from a very large data set. The man is smart, he knows his stuff, and he has helped change the world for the better.
And yes – the reason for this article – he did read and review “The League of Scientists and the Ghost in the Water”. Here’s a portion of what he wrote:
“This adventure of The League of Scientists is… a wonderful introduction to scientific detective work and critical thinking skills – all wrapped up in a delicious mystery! Although the exploits are shared with young readers, this seasoned detective looks forward to the League’s next adventure.”
Joe Nickell
Forensic, Historical, and Paranormal Investigator
24 November 2010 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Entangled Minds
http://www.deanradin.com/NewWeb/EMindex.html
Japanese and Portuguese editions are now available. Russian, Spanish and Romanian translations are in progress.
The Conscious Universe
http://www.deanradin.com/NewWeb/TCUindex.html
French, Korean and Turkish translations are available. In Great Britain this book is entitled The Noetic Universe.
What if Dean Radin is right?
by Robert Todd Carroll
http://www.skepdic.com/essays/radin.html
http://www.deanradin.com/NewWeb/EMindex.html
Japanese and Portuguese editions are now available. Russian, Spanish and Romanian translations are in progress.
The Conscious Universe
http://www.deanradin.com/NewWeb/TCUindex.html
French, Korean and Turkish translations are available. In Great Britain this book is entitled The Noetic Universe.
What if Dean Radin is right?
by Robert Todd Carroll
http://www.skepdic.com/essays/radin.html
24 November 2010 18:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Rachmaninoff
Was one of the finest pianists of his day and, as a composer, perhaps the last great representative of Romanticism in classical music. Early influences of Tchaikovsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, and other Russian composers gave way to a thoroughly personal idiom that included a pronounced lyricism, expressive breadth, structural ingenuity, and a tonal palette of rich, distinctive orchestral colors
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Horowitz's performing style frequently involved vast dynamic contrasts, with overwhelming double-fortissimos followed by sudden delicate pianissimos. He was able to produce an extraordinary volume of sound from the piano, without producing a harsh tone. He could elicit an exceptionally wide range of tonal color from the piano, and his taut, precise, and exciting attack was noticeable even in his renditions of technically undemanding pieces such as the Chopin Mazurkas. He is also famous for his octave technique; he could play precise passages in octaves extraordinarily fast. When asked by the pianist Tedd Joselson how he practiced octaves, Horowitz gave a demonstration and Joselson reported, "He practiced them exactly as we were all taught to do."Music critic and biographer Harvey Sachs submitted that Horowitz may have been "the beneficiary - and perhaps also the victim - of an extraordinary central nervous system and an equally great sensitivity to tone color." Oscar Levant, in his book, "The Memoirs of an Amnesiac," wrote that Horowitz's octaves were "brilliant, accurate and etched out like bullets." He asked Horowitz, "whether he shipped them ahead or carried them with him on tour."
Just as the Rachmaninoff household in the United States strove to reclaim the lost world of the pre-revolutionary Russia of his youth, Rachmaninoff also sought out the friendship and company of some great Russian musical luminaries. In addition to befriending the operatic bass Chaliapin, he was to meet the pianist Vladimir Horowitz in 1928.
The story has become legendary. Arranged by Steinway artist representative Alexander Greiner, the meeting took place at the basement of Steinway Hall on 57th Street, on 8 January 1928, just four days prior to Horowitz’s debut at Carnegie Hall playing the Tchaikovsky First Piano Concerto. Referring to his own Third Piano Concerto, Rachmaninoff said to Greiner he heard that “Mr. Horowitz plays my Concerto very well. I would like to accompany him.”[23]
For Horowitz, it was a dream come true to meet Rachmaninoff, to whom he referred as “the musical God of my youth ... To think that this great man should accompany me in his own Third Concerto ... This was the most unforgettable impression of my life! This was my real debut!” For Rachmaninoff their Steinway basement meeting was equally unforgettable. Speaking of Horowitz’s interpretation to Abram Chasins, he said “He swallowed it whole ... he had the courage, the intensity, the daring.”[23]
The meeting between composer and interpreter would mark the beginning of a friendship that continued until Rachmaninoff's death.
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In early January 1900, Rachmaninoff and Chaliapin were invited to Yasnaya Polyana, the home of Leo Tolstoy, whom Rachmaninoff had greatly respected. That evening, Rachmaninoff played one of his compositions, then accompanied Chaliapin in his song "Fate", one of the pieces Rachmaninoff had written after his First Symphony. After they had finished, Tolstoy took the composer aside and started, "Tell me, is such music needed by anyone? I must tell you how I dislike it all. Beethoven is nonsense, Pushkin and Lermontov also." (The song "Fate" is based on the two opening measures of Beethoven's Fifth Symphony.) And when they were leaving, Tolstoy said, "Forgive me if I've hurt you by my comments," and Rachmaninoff replied, "How could I be hurt on my own account, if I was not hurt on Beethoven's?"
During this whole time, the Russian Orthodox Church maintained its objection to Rachmaninoff marrying his cousin, Natalia Satina, which only deepened his depression.
As a pianist, Rachmaninoff ranked among the finest pianists of his time, along with Leopold Godowsky, Ignaz Friedman, Moriz Rosenthal and Josef Hofmann, and perhaps one of the greatest pianists in the history of classical music. He was famed for possessing a flawless, clean and inhuman virtuoso piano technique. His playing was marked by precision, rhythmic drive, an exceptionally accurate staccato and the ability to maintain complete clarity when playing works with complex textures. He applied these qualities to excellent effect in music by Chopin, especially the B flat minor Piano Sonata. Rachmaninoff's repertoire, excepting his own works, consisted mainly of standard 19th Century virtuoso works plus music by Bach, Beethoven, Borodin, Debussy, Grieg, Liszt, Mendelssohn, Mozart, Schubert, Schumann and Tchaikovsky.
Rhythmically, Rachmaninoff was one of the best Romantic performers
Was one of the finest pianists of his day and, as a composer, perhaps the last great representative of Romanticism in classical music. Early influences of Tchaikovsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, and other Russian composers gave way to a thoroughly personal idiom that included a pronounced lyricism, expressive breadth, structural ingenuity, and a tonal palette of rich, distinctive orchestral colors
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Horowitz's performing style frequently involved vast dynamic contrasts, with overwhelming double-fortissimos followed by sudden delicate pianissimos. He was able to produce an extraordinary volume of sound from the piano, without producing a harsh tone. He could elicit an exceptionally wide range of tonal color from the piano, and his taut, precise, and exciting attack was noticeable even in his renditions of technically undemanding pieces such as the Chopin Mazurkas. He is also famous for his octave technique; he could play precise passages in octaves extraordinarily fast. When asked by the pianist Tedd Joselson how he practiced octaves, Horowitz gave a demonstration and Joselson reported, "He practiced them exactly as we were all taught to do."Music critic and biographer Harvey Sachs submitted that Horowitz may have been "the beneficiary - and perhaps also the victim - of an extraordinary central nervous system and an equally great sensitivity to tone color." Oscar Levant, in his book, "The Memoirs of an Amnesiac," wrote that Horowitz's octaves were "brilliant, accurate and etched out like bullets." He asked Horowitz, "whether he shipped them ahead or carried them with him on tour."
Just as the Rachmaninoff household in the United States strove to reclaim the lost world of the pre-revolutionary Russia of his youth, Rachmaninoff also sought out the friendship and company of some great Russian musical luminaries. In addition to befriending the operatic bass Chaliapin, he was to meet the pianist Vladimir Horowitz in 1928.
The story has become legendary. Arranged by Steinway artist representative Alexander Greiner, the meeting took place at the basement of Steinway Hall on 57th Street, on 8 January 1928, just four days prior to Horowitz’s debut at Carnegie Hall playing the Tchaikovsky First Piano Concerto. Referring to his own Third Piano Concerto, Rachmaninoff said to Greiner he heard that “Mr. Horowitz plays my Concerto very well. I would like to accompany him.”[23]
For Horowitz, it was a dream come true to meet Rachmaninoff, to whom he referred as “the musical God of my youth ... To think that this great man should accompany me in his own Third Concerto ... This was the most unforgettable impression of my life! This was my real debut!” For Rachmaninoff their Steinway basement meeting was equally unforgettable. Speaking of Horowitz’s interpretation to Abram Chasins, he said “He swallowed it whole ... he had the courage, the intensity, the daring.”[23]
The meeting between composer and interpreter would mark the beginning of a friendship that continued until Rachmaninoff's death.
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In early January 1900, Rachmaninoff and Chaliapin were invited to Yasnaya Polyana, the home of Leo Tolstoy, whom Rachmaninoff had greatly respected. That evening, Rachmaninoff played one of his compositions, then accompanied Chaliapin in his song "Fate", one of the pieces Rachmaninoff had written after his First Symphony. After they had finished, Tolstoy took the composer aside and started, "Tell me, is such music needed by anyone? I must tell you how I dislike it all. Beethoven is nonsense, Pushkin and Lermontov also." (The song "Fate" is based on the two opening measures of Beethoven's Fifth Symphony.) And when they were leaving, Tolstoy said, "Forgive me if I've hurt you by my comments," and Rachmaninoff replied, "How could I be hurt on my own account, if I was not hurt on Beethoven's?"
During this whole time, the Russian Orthodox Church maintained its objection to Rachmaninoff marrying his cousin, Natalia Satina, which only deepened his depression.
As a pianist, Rachmaninoff ranked among the finest pianists of his time, along with Leopold Godowsky, Ignaz Friedman, Moriz Rosenthal and Josef Hofmann, and perhaps one of the greatest pianists in the history of classical music. He was famed for possessing a flawless, clean and inhuman virtuoso piano technique. His playing was marked by precision, rhythmic drive, an exceptionally accurate staccato and the ability to maintain complete clarity when playing works with complex textures. He applied these qualities to excellent effect in music by Chopin, especially the B flat minor Piano Sonata. Rachmaninoff's repertoire, excepting his own works, consisted mainly of standard 19th Century virtuoso works plus music by Bach, Beethoven, Borodin, Debussy, Grieg, Liszt, Mendelssohn, Mozart, Schubert, Schumann and Tchaikovsky.
Rhythmically, Rachmaninoff was one of the best Romantic performers
24 November 2010 07:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
In addition to his concert tours, Paderewski was a popular speaker who was renowned for his wit, and was often quoted. He was once introduced to a polo player with the words: "You are both leaders in your spheres, though the spheres are very different." "Not so very different," Paderewski replied. "You are a dear soul who plays polo, and I am a poor Pole who plays solo."
Fryderyk Franciszek Chopin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chopin
Polish composer, virtuoso pianist, and music teacher, of French-Polish parentage. He was one of the great masters of Romantic music
In February 1832 Chopin gave a concert that garnered universal admiration. The influential musicologist and critic François-Joseph Fétis wrote in Revue musicale: "Here is a young man who, taking nothing as a model, has found, if not a complete renewal of piano music, then in any case part of what has long been sought in vain, namely, an extravagance of original ideas that are unexampled anywhere..." Only three months earlier, in December 1831, Robert Schumann, reviewing Chopin's Variations on "La ci darem la mano", Op. 2 (variations on a theme from Mozart's opera Don Giovanni), had written: "Hats off, gentlemen! A genius.
Adam Bernard Mickiewicz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickiewicz
Is one of Poland's Three Bards – a national poet of Poland and one of the greatest Slavic language poets alongside Alexander Pushkin. He has also been described as a transformation poet and Slavonic bard. He was the most prominent creator of Romantic drama in Poland, compared both at home and in Western Europe to Byron and Goethe.
Together with Tomasz Zan and other friends, he created a secret organization, the Philomaths / Philomath Society, Greek philomathes, "lovers of knowledge". Its structure was a cross between freemason organization and a learned society. It was divided into two chapters - scientific-mathematic and literary. The members of the latter discussed literary works, and the organization aims were self-educational and didactic
Actually it's not clear if Ballade No. 3, dedicated to Pauline de Noailles was inspired by Mickiewicz poem Undine or Świtezianka, according to http://www.ourchopin.com/analysis/ballade.html more likelly the first one.
But all this is just some small pieces of these great man's - look them up yourself!
http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Paderewski,_Ignacy_Jan
Fryderyk Franciszek Chopin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chopin
Polish composer, virtuoso pianist, and music teacher, of French-Polish parentage. He was one of the great masters of Romantic music
In February 1832 Chopin gave a concert that garnered universal admiration. The influential musicologist and critic François-Joseph Fétis wrote in Revue musicale: "Here is a young man who, taking nothing as a model, has found, if not a complete renewal of piano music, then in any case part of what has long been sought in vain, namely, an extravagance of original ideas that are unexampled anywhere..." Only three months earlier, in December 1831, Robert Schumann, reviewing Chopin's Variations on "La ci darem la mano", Op. 2 (variations on a theme from Mozart's opera Don Giovanni), had written: "Hats off, gentlemen! A genius.
Adam Bernard Mickiewicz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickiewicz
Is one of Poland's Three Bards – a national poet of Poland and one of the greatest Slavic language poets alongside Alexander Pushkin. He has also been described as a transformation poet and Slavonic bard. He was the most prominent creator of Romantic drama in Poland, compared both at home and in Western Europe to Byron and Goethe.
Together with Tomasz Zan and other friends, he created a secret organization, the Philomaths / Philomath Society, Greek philomathes, "lovers of knowledge". Its structure was a cross between freemason organization and a learned society. It was divided into two chapters - scientific-mathematic and literary. The members of the latter discussed literary works, and the organization aims were self-educational and didactic
Actually it's not clear if Ballade No. 3, dedicated to Pauline de Noailles was inspired by Mickiewicz poem Undine or Świtezianka, according to http://www.ourchopin.com/analysis/ballade.html more likelly the first one.
But all this is just some small pieces of these great man's - look them up yourself!
http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Paderewski,_Ignacy_Jan
24 November 2010 07:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Well said, Stefan!
Same with drug prohibition / consciousness suppression, 'alternative' science, philosophy, culture & medicine...it's long list.
Thankfully it can not continue like this to long :)
Same with drug prohibition / consciousness suppression, 'alternative' science, philosophy, culture & medicine...it's long list.
Thankfully it can not continue like this to long :)
24 November 2010 04:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
I will :)
22 November 2010 17:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
It was first phrase that come to my mind after night long effective LSD trip after i started to write down some key points of 42 & reality :)
22 November 2010 17:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
This is no ground breaking news TODAY, as news was released 19'th... but what is surprising is that things like that are voted for even after one understands what that means.
But if you think we can now celebrate the freedom in Internet and go back to sleep - DREAM ON :)
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http://wikileaks.org/ - keep up the support!
But if you think we can now celebrate the freedom in Internet and go back to sleep - DREAM ON :)
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http://wikileaks.org/ - keep up the support!
22 November 2010 10:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101118/10291211924/the-19-senators-who-voted-to-censor-the-internet.shtml
This is hardly a surprise but, this morning (as previously announced), the lame duck Senate Judiciary Committee unanimously voted to move forward with censoring the internet via the COICA bill -- despite a bunch of law professors explaining to them how this law is a clear violation of the First Amendment. What's really amazing is that many of the same Senators have been speaking out against internet censorship in other countries, yet they happily vote to approve it here because it's seen as a way to make many of their largest campaign contributors happy. There's very little chance that the bill will actually get passed by the end of the term but, in the meantime, we figured it might be useful to highlight the 19 Senators who voted to censor the internet this morning:
Patrick J. Leahy -- Vermont
Herb Kohl -- Wisconsin
Jeff Sessions -- Alabama
Dianne Feinstein -- California
Orrin G. Hatch -- Utah
Russ Feingold -- Wisconsin
Chuck Grassley -- Iowa
Arlen Specter -- Pennsylvania
Jon Kyl -- Arizona
Chuck Schumer -- New York
Lindsey Graham -- South Carolina
Dick Durbin -- Illinois
John Cornyn -- Texas
Benjamin L. Cardin -- Maryland
Tom Coburn -- Oklahoma
Sheldon Whitehouse -- Rhode Island
Amy Klobuchar -- Minnesota
Al Franken -- Minnesota
Chris Coons -- Delaware
This should be a list of shame. You would think that our own elected officials would understand the First Amendment but, apparently, they have no problem turning the US into one of the small list of authoritarian countries that censors internet content it does not like (in this case, content some of its largest campaign contributors do not like). We already have laws in place to deal with infringing content, so don't buy the excuse that this law is about stopping infringement. This law takes down entire websites based on the government's say-so. First Amendment protections make clear that if you are going to stop any specific speech, it has to be extremely specific speech. This law has no such restrictions. It's really quite unfortunate that these 19 US Senators are the first American politicians to publicly vote in favor of censoring speech in America.
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This is hardly a surprise but, this morning (as previously announced), the lame duck Senate Judiciary Committee unanimously voted to move forward with censoring the internet via the COICA bill -- despite a bunch of law professors explaining to them how this law is a clear violation of the First Amendment. What's really amazing is that many of the same Senators have been speaking out against internet censorship in other countries, yet they happily vote to approve it here because it's seen as a way to make many of their largest campaign contributors happy. There's very little chance that the bill will actually get passed by the end of the term but, in the meantime, we figured it might be useful to highlight the 19 Senators who voted to censor the internet this morning:
Patrick J. Leahy -- Vermont
Herb Kohl -- Wisconsin
Jeff Sessions -- Alabama
Dianne Feinstein -- California
Orrin G. Hatch -- Utah
Russ Feingold -- Wisconsin
Chuck Grassley -- Iowa
Arlen Specter -- Pennsylvania
Jon Kyl -- Arizona
Chuck Schumer -- New York
Lindsey Graham -- South Carolina
Dick Durbin -- Illinois
John Cornyn -- Texas
Benjamin L. Cardin -- Maryland
Tom Coburn -- Oklahoma
Sheldon Whitehouse -- Rhode Island
Amy Klobuchar -- Minnesota
Al Franken -- Minnesota
Chris Coons -- Delaware
This should be a list of shame. You would think that our own elected officials would understand the First Amendment but, apparently, they have no problem turning the US into one of the small list of authoritarian countries that censors internet content it does not like (in this case, content some of its largest campaign contributors do not like). We already have laws in place to deal with infringing content, so don't buy the excuse that this law is about stopping infringement. This law takes down entire websites based on the government's say-so. First Amendment protections make clear that if you are going to stop any specific speech, it has to be extremely specific speech. This law has no such restrictions. It's really quite unfortunate that these 19 US Senators are the first American politicians to publicly vote in favor of censoring speech in America.
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22 November 2010 10:55
Margus Meigo commented on Karin Miido's post.
öömaja ikka saab - pole probleemi.
Kuigi meil midagi luxi ei ole sest enamus on alles remondi järgus, kuid ahi peaks soojas olema :P
Kuigi meil midagi luxi ei ole sest enamus on alles remondi järgus, kuid ahi peaks soojas olema :P
19 November 2010 13:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Are you working with Volunteer Mzansi Afrika only now or with Vol.center also?
19 November 2010 10:32
Margus Meigo commented on Nur Natasya's post.
Well, smoke free society starts from peoples mind to understand that they are victims of addiction & slavery not just sifting the law... but then again, newer know the people... this might be only way many of us understand that something is not good for them... sad imho:P
Actually i am more comfortable also with Waffa then Margus often. So yes.. changes in here? Well, there is many and then -nothing at all worth mentioning.. it's all one big on-going happening and what happened seems to be irrelevant to what is now. :)
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so you got crappy boyfriend now lol?
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So you got better job? Good, so you can come to visit me in Estonia soon? ;)
Actually i am more comfortable also with Waffa then Margus often. So yes.. changes in here? Well, there is many and then -nothing at all worth mentioning.. it's all one big on-going happening and what happened seems to be irrelevant to what is now. :)
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so you got crappy boyfriend now lol?
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So you got better job? Good, so you can come to visit me in Estonia soon? ;)
19 November 2010 09:26
Margus Meigo commented on Tiki Mad's photo.
Great vibes & hopefully they are still with everyone :)
19 November 2010 08:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"If any teacher offers you instant enlightenment - run! True teacher will newer charge you"
If you cant hear for now all of it now, listen the end of this talk, starting from 1:14:00.. to end :)
If you cant hear for now all of it now, listen the end of this talk, starting from 1:14:00.. to end :)
18 November 2010 17:06
Margus Meigo commented on Andrej Podbevšek's photo.
sweet :D
18 November 2010 01:31
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
I think the scandal is not jet public, its under investigation
17 November 2010 22:51
Margus Meigo commented on Ralph Abraham's post.
few times and he though also it's a good idea but maybe it slipped hes mind
17 November 2010 10:28
Margus Meigo commented on Ralph Abraham's post.
Hmm.. i wonder is the estonian/russian/latvian/polish/finnish.. subtitles also included? As i was told that once the DVD transcript is ready i can send them a translation in few languages so more people can actually buy it in their local languages (opposed to other alternative: downloading it from piratepay & adding subtitles from the net ).
But i do not have the original jet so maybe they are included :)
But i do not have the original jet so maybe they are included :)
17 November 2010 01:50
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Yes, it's your only destiny, no need for personal life :)
16 November 2010 16:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ahjaa, kui vaatad sealt http://r2.err.ee/saated?saade=285&sub=292 ülesse: "Hallo, Kosmos! Carlos - 22. august Saates külas Argentiinast pärit neošamaan CARLOS" - see see shamaan kelle juures Kadri käis:)
Osa infot ammu teada arvatavasti sulle, kuid osa infi võib uuema vaatega ka olla :)
Osa infot ammu teada arvatavasti sulle, kuid osa infi võib uuema vaatega ka olla :)
15 November 2010 23:44
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
lol.. my darling, do you really want me to answer that one ? :)
12 November 2010 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"That what keeps family together today: fuck it!" "Not I love you, it's just Fuck it!"
12 November 2010 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mmmm ;)
11 November 2010 13:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
oo kui vanat postitust liketi :P
... kuid yea... vahepeal pole unes näinud kerlit.. ei tea mis teema on
... kuid yea... vahepeal pole unes näinud kerlit.. ei tea mis teema on
11 November 2010 13:03
Margus Meigo commented on Vali Stanciu's photo.
Just wondering how joint that is smoked (mostly) for enjoyment or for some more higher reasons is more bad then cigarettes that is smoked for nicotine addiction ...
no really, there is people like that out there :P
no really, there is people like that out there :P
10 November 2010 22:45
Margus Meigo commented on Vali Stanciu's photo.
Thank You all! :)
1 November 2010 12:39
Margus Meigo commented on Lyserg Kiszh's photo.
Interesting :)
29 October 2010 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on Mihail Iordache's post.
Enjoy the sea :)
28 October 2010 15:09
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Deeem... Knight Rider .... vanad head ajad :)
26 October 2010 02:56
Margus Meigo commented on Nur Natasya's post.
Aww... old good times :)
It's cool you take contact with me again! But yes, Singapore is still strongly in my mind. You still have the jawing cum law lol? You know, because of you i have like 50+ people in my contacts from Singapore as i had the email address book accident :P
But yes... 21. ..means full independence in most corners of the world, Las Vegas i open to you, ehehe.
So what are the biggest things that have happened in your life mean time ?
It's cool you take contact with me again! But yes, Singapore is still strongly in my mind. You still have the jawing cum law lol? You know, because of you i have like 50+ people in my contacts from Singapore as i had the email address book accident :P
But yes... 21. ..means full independence in most corners of the world, Las Vegas i open to you, ehehe.
So what are the biggest things that have happened in your life mean time ?
25 October 2010 15:57
Margus Meigo commented on Nur Natasya's post.
Ofcourse i do Natascha - i just do not use MSN anymore, more like Skype & FB :)
I have been good, buzi, fun... well, mostly bzi :P
And you? Any plans to come to EU ? :)
I have been good, buzi, fun... well, mostly bzi :P
And you? Any plans to come to EU ? :)
25 October 2010 15:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Thing u asked :)
24 October 2010 12:14
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's link.
Good :D
Also their channel.. and other things they do.
Thanks! (K)
Also their channel.. and other things they do.
Thanks! (K)
21 October 2010 00:21
Margus Meigo commented on Teve Floren-Kadak's photo.
Wee, näeme homme :)
20 October 2010 19:50
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Kle see lihtne ju, mul iga päev tuleb meile inimestelt kes arvavad, et need olulised, ma labeldan nad gmailis "oluliseks" ja siis vastvalt reitingule panen vastava tähtsusega tärni (gmaili lisa) ... ja siis , well, lasen neil olla seal oluliste listis.
praegu vaatasin, et seal 170+ meili :P
Valikuid teed siis vastvalt tujule, värvile ja mis silma jääb mingil hetkel. Enda jaoks väga olulised võid veel floating taskidena panna otse meili menyyst kui vaja - siis tolkneb silme all seni kuni valmis.
Chill :)
praegu vaatasin, et seal 170+ meili :P
Valikuid teed siis vastvalt tujule, värvile ja mis silma jääb mingil hetkel. Enda jaoks väga olulised võid veel floating taskidena panna otse meili menyyst kui vaja - siis tolkneb silme all seni kuni valmis.
Chill :)
18 October 2010 18:14
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Mul ainult õiged arvamused ongi õnneks, hea lihtne!
:P
:P
18 October 2010 14:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
bdw ... the thing we did not have in last day - i am pretty sure i have it now, so let me know when u come ower ;)
18 October 2010 14:52
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Kui juukse karva lõhki ajada siis "one aims" oli mu mentioned ja sloogani seletuslik point kuid sa panid vist selle keeleliselt kokku lõpuks :)
like it maters :D
Kuid yea, ma uurin seda värki :)
like it maters :D
Kuid yea, ma uurin seda värki :)
12 October 2010 16:08
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
My version is better :P ...but seriously, it all depends - for what.
()uut projecti teed?
()uut projecti teed?
12 October 2010 15:44
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
mhmh
12 October 2010 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
praegu sinna: http://www.salto-youth.net/tools/training/find-a-training/1890.html
Greetings Ziva!
Greetings Ziva!
12 October 2010 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
aa ja järgmisel kuul veel yx salto asi hollandis, kuid sinna ei tea kas saab või ei :)
12 October 2010 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Nuh, ma ike teid esindama, keda siis veel :P
12 October 2010 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
ma 21-28 yhel Salto asjal, seega nagu ei jõuaks vist :)
11 October 2010 22:09
Margus Meigo commented on Teve Floren-Kadak's post.
Nuh, ma palkan selleks ajaks kellegi teise kui kriitiliseks kisub - kuidagi ikka välja tuleb, ega rikkus rahas seisne lihtsalt ei taha kliente alt vedada kui neil kriis :)
So lets do it :)
So lets do it :)
11 October 2010 00:54
Margus Meigo commented on Teve Floren-Kadak's post.
Kuid samas, tundub väga vahva project olema:)
Kas seal võimalus internetile on kuidagi ?
Muidu mingi mobiilse neti saaks ka sebida... siis saaks oma klientidel ja projectidel silma peal & kätt hoida kuidagi mõned tunnid päevas/öösel
i think i might be in :)
Kas seal võimalus internetile on kuidagi ?
Muidu mingi mobiilse neti saaks ka sebida... siis saaks oma klientidel ja projectidel silma peal & kätt hoida kuidagi mõned tunnid päevas/öösel
i think i might be in :)
11 October 2010 00:40
Margus Meigo commented on Teve Floren-Kadak's post.
Proovin leida inimesi, mul endal vist kiire see aeg.
:)
:)
10 October 2010 22:45
Margus Meigo commented on Mirko Salus's link.
... aga äkki filmid? Mõned head lehed nagu maksaks päris hästi...
vb saak Getteri ka kampa, siis eriti hot värk, läheb kohe kaubaks
vb saak Getteri ka kampa, siis eriti hot värk, läheb kohe kaubaks
10 October 2010 19:09
Margus Meigo commented on Mirko Salus's link.
@ Mirko, U perv ...
10 October 2010 19:06
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Weee.. finally we managed to will also something :)
but personaly i liked this news more "new European Union IT agency will be located in Estonia" :)
but personaly i liked this news more "new European Union IT agency will be located in Estonia" :)
9 October 2010 14:57
Margus Meigo commented on Fahmi King King's post.
...and important thing is - think about it, and fallow your thoughts, only then changes come :)
9 October 2010 06:31
Margus Meigo commented on Steve Noki Traverse's photo.
Thank You for this Nokaoi, greetings! :)
9 October 2010 06:28
Margus Meigo commented on Dmitry Groz's post.
Sir, Yes Sir, Yes!
8 October 2010 20:04
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
I sometimes prefer it not in bed at all :)
8 October 2010 19:20
Margus Meigo commented on Dmitry Groz's post.
I'l do my best .)
8 October 2010 15:50
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
hui tulevad, raudselt o mingi pettus
8 October 2010 12:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Anytime :)
I am glad you liked it!
I am glad you liked it!
8 October 2010 12:14
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Parem alati varakult ootama hakata kui liiga hilja :)
8 October 2010 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Keda? :)
8 October 2010 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
WAY to good! :D::D
6 October 2010 22:09
Margus Meigo commented on Uku Légal's post.
Group: All is One & One is All
bob & seene cändyflippiga pole eriti kerge sellese vestlusesse tagasi astuda.. :D
...but... aaaar we like SERIOUSLY talking about Venus project?
Sama reaalseid ideid veel mul, nagu nteks Charleys Chocolate Factory'x muuta kogu maailm - ei teagi kumb nendest ideedest fantaasia rikkamad ja realiseeritavamad on. Sellel planeedil, nende inimestega:)
... kuid ma ledan nyyd, homme tagasi :P6 October 2010 21:49
Margus Meigo commented on Uku Légal's link.
bob & seene cändyflippiga pole eriti kerge sellese vestlusesse tagasi astuda.. :D
...but... aaaar we like SERIOUSLY talking about Venus project?
Sama reaalseid ideid veel mul, nagu nteks Charleys Chocolate Factory'x muuta kogu maailm - ei teagi kumb nendest ideedest fantaasia rikkamad ja realiseeritavamad on. Sellel planeedil, nende inimestega:)
... kuid ma ledan nyyd, homme tagasi :P
...but... aaaar we like SERIOUSLY talking about Venus project?
Sama reaalseid ideid veel mul, nagu nteks Charleys Chocolate Factory'x muuta kogu maailm - ei teagi kumb nendest ideedest fantaasia rikkamad ja realiseeritavamad on. Sellel planeedil, nende inimestega:)
... kuid ma ledan nyyd, homme tagasi :P
6 October 2010 21:49
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Jup, let's make circle now :)
6 October 2010 20:28
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
self motivation & inner dialogue at its best
6 October 2010 05:04
Margus Meigo commented on Uku Légal's post.
Group: All is One & One is All
My end point is : We must be reality careful if THEY seem to promote something that WE like.. look behind the curtains5 October 2010 17:29
Margus Meigo commented on Uku Légal's link.
My end point is : We must be reality careful if THEY seem to promote something that WE like.. look behind the curtains
5 October 2010 17:29
Margus Meigo commented on Uku Légal's post.
Group: All is One & One is All
Well, this is 100% correct prediction whatever we do: "something will happen" and not sure if we die out will be the worst case scenario. Just another failed mutation/project in a way...
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Well...to this naive video now. I hope most people understand what they promote in this video even before starting to watch it (and when u listen it well... it confirms it).
& yes.. there is lot of good messages there - the obvious ones, but the point of podcast is not this. It's all one big machine & your personal interest & 'freedoms' are not in it.
For starters It's 100% russia gov controlled & funded PR/propaganda machine 'news' channel - everyone knows it. What they do... well, let's not go in to this, you can take intelligent guess & ask your parents about KGB propaganda machine. Important to understand is, to-what-reality-channel-what-message-works-how. (Realty Channels from the R.A.W. theory ). Its fine art in a way what they do... - makes me smile, i like skills, does not matter what the skills are - as long they are fine tuned.
If you REALLY pay attention to the key words from who to who... then you might understand what they do there (or how they use this old guy, i a way, unless he is in the game also...).
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& i would also wanna see people who have seen Zeitgeist, like it AND understand it (has researched the issue outside the zeing network some weeks to get at least SOME kind of tiny picture of what they are talking about and how they do it...).
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Some might think Netherlands Queen Beatrix is pretty modest and when Putin visited her 2005 she was delighted... now if one takes look who is she really... who was her father... Leiden universty.. well you will get the picture a bit differently.
"Hippie like" people have been LONG used by USA & Russia governments (& by "them") for their own good - we just need to open our eyes a bit and understand that they are ALL in a club(s) & we are no in it. .
Newer will be
...unless
--5 October 2010 17:29
Margus Meigo commented on Uku Légal's link.
Well, this is 100% correct prediction whatever we do: "something will happen" and not sure if we die out will be the worst case scenario. Just another failed mutation/project in a way...
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Well...to this naive video now. I hope most people understand what they promote in this video even before starting to watch it (and when u listen it well... it confirms it).
& yes.. there is lot of good messages there - the obvious ones, but the point of podcast is not this. It's all one big machine & your personal interest & 'freedoms' are not in it.
For starters It's 100% russia gov controlled & funded PR/propaganda machine 'news' channel - everyone knows it. What they do... well, let's not go in to this, you can take intelligent guess & ask your parents about KGB propaganda machine. Important to understand is, to-what-reality-channel-what-message-works-how. (Realty Channels from the R.A.W. theory ). Its fine art in a way what they do... - makes me smile, i like skills, does not matter what the skills are - as long they are fine tuned.
If you REALLY pay attention to the key words from who to who... then you might understand what they do there (or how they use this old guy, i a way, unless he is in the game also...).
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& i would also wanna see people who have seen Zeitgeist, like it AND understand it (has researched the issue outside the zeing network some weeks to get at least SOME kind of tiny picture of what they are talking about and how they do it...).
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Some might think Netherlands Queen Beatrix is pretty modest and when Putin visited her 2005 she was delighted... now if one takes look who is she really... who was her father... Leiden universty.. well you will get the picture a bit differently.
"Hippie like" people have been LONG used by USA & Russia governments (& by "them") for their own good - we just need to open our eyes a bit and understand that they are ALL in a club(s) & we are no in it. .
Newer will be
...unless
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Well...to this naive video now. I hope most people understand what they promote in this video even before starting to watch it (and when u listen it well... it confirms it).
& yes.. there is lot of good messages there - the obvious ones, but the point of podcast is not this. It's all one big machine & your personal interest & 'freedoms' are not in it.
For starters It's 100% russia gov controlled & funded PR/propaganda machine 'news' channel - everyone knows it. What they do... well, let's not go in to this, you can take intelligent guess & ask your parents about KGB propaganda machine. Important to understand is, to-what-reality-channel-what-message-works-how. (Realty Channels from the R.A.W. theory ). Its fine art in a way what they do... - makes me smile, i like skills, does not matter what the skills are - as long they are fine tuned.
If you REALLY pay attention to the key words from who to who... then you might understand what they do there (or how they use this old guy, i a way, unless he is in the game also...).
---
& i would also wanna see people who have seen Zeitgeist, like it AND understand it (has researched the issue outside the zeing network some weeks to get at least SOME kind of tiny picture of what they are talking about and how they do it...).
---
Some might think Netherlands Queen Beatrix is pretty modest and when Putin visited her 2005 she was delighted... now if one takes look who is she really... who was her father... Leiden universty.. well you will get the picture a bit differently.
"Hippie like" people have been LONG used by USA & Russia governments (& by "them") for their own good - we just need to open our eyes a bit and understand that they are ALL in a club(s) & we are no in it. .
Newer will be
...unless
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5 October 2010 17:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
a wall?
3 October 2010 00:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
besides u
3 October 2010 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
who else??
3 October 2010 00:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
they are after me...
3 October 2010 00:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
u would like it, dont ya :D
3 October 2010 00:43
Margus Meigo commented on Chantel Daniels's post.
How are you? :)
3 October 2010 00:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
fuck, must try harder
3 October 2010 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
but did you also know that i know that you know that i know ?
2 October 2010 20:36
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
i totally like my last comment
2 October 2010 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
nooo, telnet s and m room
i know !
i know !
2 October 2010 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
This is way cool. I think they are probabaly having some dirty chat in Telnet ... respec!
1 October 2010 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
or even more - a change :)
1 October 2010 18:04
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
entire vacation from work with colleagues, what a fun:D
1 October 2010 18:02
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
bdw.. if i remember correctly then you told me long time ago that ur masters should give you some vacation around soon now...
? :)
? :)
1 October 2010 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
so... if ya wanna have time then - just take time off, it's illusin that it's not posible :)
1 October 2010 00:22
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Only reason they have time, is becouse they do not do shit :)
1 October 2010 00:22
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
Yes you are :)
1 October 2010 00:08
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
We will see, if you are not chickening out :))
30 September 2010 23:09
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
Does not help, it does not change the reallty :P
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But in the other hand... you would need some for sure... if you can handle your inner you & all new world ;)
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But in the other hand... you would need some for sure... if you can handle your inner you & all new world ;)
30 September 2010 22:54
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
Worldis ours, why we would wanna destory it :P
30 September 2010 22:51
Margus Meigo commented on Eesti Ekspress's album.
Väga asjalik reklaamkampaania, mulle meeldib kui innovatiivsed ollakse. Kuigi ideed varem kasutatud on mujal siis Eestis see peaks esimene kord olema promo sedasi teha? Loodame, et kaasas olev lugu kah loetav un:)
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Mitte, et see oluline oleks kuidagi kuid omamoodi oleks ju päris lahe selle innovatiivse kampaania üks 200st olla, ostaks lehe kohe:P
(pilti ise muutma ei hakka, peate ise valima ?view=photos seest:)
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Mitte, et see oluline oleks kuidagi kuid omamoodi oleks ju päris lahe selle innovatiivse kampaania üks 200st olla, ostaks lehe kohe:P
(pilti ise muutma ei hakka, peate ise valima ?view=photos seest:)
30 September 2010 09:23
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
I guess so :)
Be awere of metsavennad :P
Be awere of metsavennad :P
29 September 2010 23:39
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Geiger-Howiler's video.
Any thinking person should own more then one reallty :)
Thanks for video :)
Thanks for video :)
29 September 2010 23:37
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Geiger-Howiler's video.
Well, sounds inspiring and powerful... but well, let's please not go there to say that zeineist movie is helping to expand peoples mind.
To be honest i know a lot of people outside facebook/google and most people have not seen it, and from who have half like it but from them... only few understand it & take time to research about movies like that and flaws they have. Most who like it just like and trust it... newer take time to investigate ALL the new information from ALTERNATIVE sources they just received. No one who likes to consider them-self a thinker should believe anything after looking a movie (or series from like minded people). ...and if some of this people would be so open minded then they would not censor their forums from certain kind of information about their organization.
& what people think before, where money come from? Haven't they read ANY history books at all what happens in war & crisis times?
Please people, go more deep. & yes, keep sharing the videos, informing people but also take time to INVESTIGATE bullshit in every level, even in your back yard. Only then can we make from this wold something we like if we are not afraid to confront our own beliefs & agenda. with open mind. to all directions.
but other then that... internet is the tool to enlighten but it can also be tool to slave, scam & con you by people who learned a bit higher level psychology & mind control techniques then most of us - so be careful :)
To be honest i know a lot of people outside facebook/google and most people have not seen it, and from who have half like it but from them... only few understand it & take time to research about movies like that and flaws they have. Most who like it just like and trust it... newer take time to investigate ALL the new information from ALTERNATIVE sources they just received. No one who likes to consider them-self a thinker should believe anything after looking a movie (or series from like minded people). ...and if some of this people would be so open minded then they would not censor their forums from certain kind of information about their organization.
& what people think before, where money come from? Haven't they read ANY history books at all what happens in war & crisis times?
Please people, go more deep. & yes, keep sharing the videos, informing people but also take time to INVESTIGATE bullshit in every level, even in your back yard. Only then can we make from this wold something we like if we are not afraid to confront our own beliefs & agenda. with open mind. to all directions.
but other then that... internet is the tool to enlighten but it can also be tool to slave, scam & con you by people who learned a bit higher level psychology & mind control techniques then most of us - so be careful :)
29 September 2010 23:33
Margus Meigo commented on Uku Légal's photo.
huvitav oleks tavapärase esimese korruse levika külastaja käest muusikalist arvamust kysida 4 aeg - kui to veel rääkimis võimeline un.
29 September 2010 23:16
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's photo.
Not bad at all :)
29 September 2010 23:13
Margus Meigo commented on Nikita Gruvman's post.
I might come to russia this year again.. i will let you guys know :))
29 September 2010 21:00
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
not for me :P
29 September 2010 20:11
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
you see, not so hard:P
29 September 2010 20:03
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
the last sarcasm got kind of lost
come again?
come again?
29 September 2010 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
Okok, but it's not like a real word then right, i mean u do not use it daily probabaly :D ?
Well, we also have like
Paabulinnusabakattesulesilmamunasinisevärviline - this is the blue color that peacock feather "eye" has :P
But if one gos to ...buy fabric & asks that color then the damn russian salesmans do not understand at all what the fuck we want. Why in the fuck they just cant learn the language damnt!
Well, we also have like
Paabulinnusabakattesulesilmamunasinisevärviline - this is the blue color that peacock feather "eye" has :P
But if one gos to ...buy fabric & asks that color then the damn russian salesmans do not understand at all what the fuck we want. Why in the fuck they just cant learn the language damnt!
29 September 2010 19:35
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
lol, no i am not making :P
Hey i would not say konstantynopolitańczykowianeczka is a word i would easily learn as well... but i mean u really have special word for unmarryed girls from Constantinopole? How would you call if it would be from Tallinn ? :P
Hey i would not say konstantynopolitańczykowianeczka is a word i would easily learn as well... but i mean u really have special word for unmarryed girls from Constantinopole? How would you call if it would be from Tallinn ? :P
29 September 2010 19:17
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
We have a lot of nice simple words you can practise besides besides põllumajandusministeerium, like:
mobiiltelefonitootja - mobile phone manufacturer
digitaalkartograafiline - digital cartography like
võidusõidumootorratas - racing motorcycle...
miinimumvarustatusega - minimum equitment
kuulilennuteetunneliluuk - palindroom
õigekeelsussõnaraamat - correct spelling dictionary
politseijaoskondadesse - to police stations
ristkoordinaatsüsteemid - cross corination systems
sotsiaalmaksukohuslased - social taxable
maailmameistrivõistlused - World Cup
seitsmepenikoormasaapad - boots with a load of seven Pen (google translation:D)
ristsõnalahendamisvõistlus - crossword competition
immigratsiooniministeerium - Ministry of Immigration
väikeautolammutustöökoda - small car demolition workshop
süsteemipaigalduskomplekti - System Installation Kit
tualettpaberirulliseinakunst - toilet paper wall art. no shit: (literally) http://tiny.cc/toiletart
ofcourse, unless you have ...
HIPOPOTOMONSTROSESKVIPEDALIOFOOBIA :P
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But is all pretty simple compared with full chemical name of the protein named Titin, peace of cacke i would say :)
mobiiltelefonitootja - mobile phone manufacturer
digitaalkartograafiline - digital cartography like
võidusõidumootorratas - racing motorcycle...
miinimumvarustatusega - minimum equitment
kuulilennuteetunneliluuk - palindroom
õigekeelsussõnaraamat - correct spelling dictionary
politseijaoskondadesse - to police stations
ristkoordinaatsüsteemid - cross corination systems
sotsiaalmaksukohuslased - social taxable
maailmameistrivõistlused - World Cup
seitsmepenikoormasaapad - boots with a load of seven Pen (google translation:D)
ristsõnalahendamisvõistlus - crossword competition
immigratsiooniministeerium - Ministry of Immigration
väikeautolammutustöökoda - small car demolition workshop
süsteemipaigalduskomplekti - System Installation Kit
tualettpaberirulliseinakunst - toilet paper wall art. no shit: (literally) http://tiny.cc/toiletart
ofcourse, unless you have ...
HIPOPOTOMONSTROSESKVIPEDALIOFOOBIA :P
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But is all pretty simple compared with full chemical name of the protein named Titin, peace of cacke i would say :)
29 September 2010 19:10
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
bdw Kadri's child draw that picture in a night out @ pancacke bar, fan night it was :))
... hey and what about you coming here... ? Havent seen ya this side of border yet
... hey and what about you coming here... ? Havent seen ya this side of border yet
29 September 2010 14:32
Margus Meigo commented on Nikita Gruvman's post.
Well, have been extremely buzy...and chill same time - u know how it go's :)
How is ... i forget her name? damn me.D
How is ... i forget her name? damn me.D
28 September 2010 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
Everything is possible, keeping my options open ...anyway i will let you know if it hapens for sure :))
28 September 2010 00:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Metastöll & RAM - Raua Needmine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiEIpGmYYZU - again one of the conserts i attented, liked it a lot, hope you also :)
RAM alone: Lahinguväljal näeme, raisk!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYGiJPob-mg :)
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(forget to post one link about topic on this post: http://www.folklore.ee/rl/pubte/ee/cf/cf/8.html )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiEIpGmYYZU - again one of the conserts i attented, liked it a lot, hope you also :)
RAM alone: Lahinguväljal näeme, raisk!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYGiJPob-mg :)
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(forget to post one link about topic on this post: http://www.folklore.ee/rl/pubte/ee/cf/cf/8.html )
27 September 2010 23:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
First song was Greation of The Wolf
This is Wolfs rage: Metsatöll - Hundiraev (english croatian hrvatski) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th-xWWcL9HA - more great folc metal. (Yes, i was on that consert also, was great ;)
This is Wolfs rage: Metsatöll - Hundiraev (english croatian hrvatski) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th-xWWcL9HA - more great folc metal. (Yes, i was on that consert also, was great ;)
27 September 2010 23:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
This is way i told "If science is.."
I will get back to you with this reply soon - have been to busy with last days :)
But .. you might agree that science is not as free and scientists are not as free to think about (known) ideas that are not supported my mainstream?
Is scientific approach not self serving sometimes when it comes to arguments if something is real or not because "science shows that..", maybe?
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Is the science explained here a way we might agree https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=12P0tiN30INNUWss-aH0Zz_Y5yoncN331ivxOs9hlNNl_LNOc9mHEM_OV-a5z&sort=name&layout=list&num=50 more/less ?
I will get back to you with this reply soon - have been to busy with last days :)
But .. you might agree that science is not as free and scientists are not as free to think about (known) ideas that are not supported my mainstream?
Is scientific approach not self serving sometimes when it comes to arguments if something is real or not because "science shows that..", maybe?
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Is the science explained here a way we might agree https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=12P0tiN30INNUWss-aH0Zz_Y5yoncN331ivxOs9hlNNl_LNOc9mHEM_OV-a5z&sort=name&layout=list&num=50 more/less ?
27 September 2010 17:28
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
For first i was wondering, what kind of "Oh. Yeah." it is :)
24 September 2010 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's album.
Add pictures from here also: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir?uname=andres.lepp&target=ALBUM&id=5517569333545828833&authkey=Gv1sRgCMzquvWyx6W4kAE&feat=email
23 September 2010 12:53
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's album.
Add pictures from here also: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir?uname=andres.lepp&target=ALBUM&id=5517569333545828833&authkey=Gv1sRgCMzquvWyx6W4kAE&feat=email
23 September 2010 12:53
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's album.
"western russia"
xD
xD
23 September 2010 12:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kuidas sul endal läheb ?
23 September 2010 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Geiger-Howiler's video.
Thank you Mari! Havent seen this one before! :))
22 September 2010 17:48
Margus Meigo commented on Marco Ciancio's video.
Thanks man :))
22 September 2010 17:45
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
(K)
22 September 2010 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
If u copy paste " http://lsd.ee/books/history/Mein_Kampf.-.Adolf_Hitler.525.pages.version._.[Volume.1.-.A.Retrospect.and.Volume.2.-.The.National.Social.Movement.pdf " it works perfect : )
21 September 2010 19:32
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
She is the BEST! :)
21 September 2010 19:29
Margus Meigo commented on Kim Venetvirta's post.
ehehe, u comedian :P
But hello to You also :)
But hello to You also :)
21 September 2010 00:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I see : )
I go to meet one cool polich girl today... she will come to psy party i võru also 17-19. U will be there also ?
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we also looking some chill time :)
I go to meet one cool polich girl today... she will come to psy party i võru also 17-19. U will be there also ?
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we also looking some chill time :)
15 September 2010 22:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
How as the party :)) ?
15 September 2010 21:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Just for historical purpose :)
(copy paste the full link as for link as active one did not work)
(copy paste the full link as for link as active one did not work)
15 September 2010 04:12
Margus Meigo commented on Maarja Külm's photo.
Karina... Ola tuleb mulle täna külla - saaks ka kokku?
Me reedest pyhapäevani oleme yhel psy peol muidu võrust edasi :)
Me reedest pyhapäevani oleme yhel psy peol muidu võrust edasi :)
15 September 2010 02:04
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's photo.
"I have nothing to do whit this..." :P
14 September 2010 20:42
Margus Meigo commented on Anna-Maria Galojan's photo.
lol... i cant keep wondering why people like football so much (or any other ball game they get so excited about).
Some people make it sound like these kind of games would matter so much - but they always fail to explain why. Can you help me whit that?
Some people make it sound like these kind of games would matter so much - but they always fail to explain why. Can you help me whit that?
13 September 2010 14:52
Margus Meigo commented on Brian Laanmets's photo.
: )))
Jõudu weel mu poolt teile reisiks :))
Jõudu weel mu poolt teile reisiks :))
12 September 2010 13:46
Margus Meigo commented on Erik Miido's link.
Mõned lõigud olid päris mõtekad kuigi neil "probleemi" endaga midagi sellisel levelil pistmist ei olnud nagu autor USKuda proovib.
Enamuse atikli osas aga võib öelda: Ülikool idiooti ei riku, kirik võib seda hälvet aga vaid ainult süvendad...a.
Miks ei või avalikult deibaitida, sellise teema üle kas usuFanaatikutele tuleks sund või vabatahliku ravi pakkuda perearsti või kooli psühiaatri poolt?
Nad on meie nö demokraatiale iga terve inimese arvutuste järgi ikka kordades ohtlikumad vastased kui keegi Vello kellele meeldib millegi pärast Antsu panna. (okey, viimane väide noorte slängis küll muutis sisu kuid point jäi suht samaks). Eesti uks vähem usklikemaid maid maailmas - siin kahjuks ei nähta läbi nede haigeid arusaamu ja mida nad kõik teeks kui vaid rohkem võimu saaks. Eriti need 3 suuremat gruppi kellel Abrahami peale kõvaks läheb
Kindlasti ei ole olnud need 'peded' kes meie arengut pidurdada on proovinud erinevate tabude ja teaduse demoniseerimisega läbi ajaloo. Ok, st, kui need poiste trukkijatest preestrid välja arvata...
Enamuse atikli osas aga võib öelda: Ülikool idiooti ei riku, kirik võib seda hälvet aga vaid ainult süvendad...a.
Miks ei või avalikult deibaitida, sellise teema üle kas usuFanaatikutele tuleks sund või vabatahliku ravi pakkuda perearsti või kooli psühiaatri poolt?
Nad on meie nö demokraatiale iga terve inimese arvutuste järgi ikka kordades ohtlikumad vastased kui keegi Vello kellele meeldib millegi pärast Antsu panna. (okey, viimane väide noorte slängis küll muutis sisu kuid point jäi suht samaks). Eesti uks vähem usklikemaid maid maailmas - siin kahjuks ei nähta läbi nede haigeid arusaamu ja mida nad kõik teeks kui vaid rohkem võimu saaks. Eriti need 3 suuremat gruppi kellel Abrahami peale kõvaks läheb
Kindlasti ei ole olnud need 'peded' kes meie arengut pidurdada on proovinud erinevate tabude ja teaduse demoniseerimisega läbi ajaloo. Ok, st, kui need poiste trukkijatest preestrid välja arvata...
11 September 2010 19:29
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
Si
11 September 2010 02:02
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
damn, i was just hopping to come and comfort you
11 September 2010 01:42
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
would that not be an overkill?
11 September 2010 01:37
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
i would not say deadly but at least half deadly for sore
11 September 2010 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
yeah :D:D
funnyest part is, that last one was actually even not a joke :D
funnyest part is, that last one was actually even not a joke :D
11 September 2010 01:30
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
no, we just helping USA as otherwise the terrorizers will attack our (i mean, your) freedoms you know
what would they do white out us....
what would they do white out us....
11 September 2010 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
its strategical point, Center is about 120 meters from my house.
really!
really!
11 September 2010 01:21
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's photo.
well you see, this is where the center is located - all other land is where we allow people to live in "democracy"
... for now
... for now
11 September 2010 01:03
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's post.
they will
11 September 2010 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's post.
i wait apology letter from Sarkozy about it on my table before noon!
11 September 2010 00:58
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's post.
damn french !!!!
11 September 2010 00:56
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's post.
1.1 ? I think u over estimated a bit
11 September 2010 00:55
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's post.
do not underestimate master Estonian race. Only reason we keep our population under 900 thousand is that otherwise we would dominate the world.
It's a fact. i can write wikipedia page about it
It's a fact. i can write wikipedia page about it
11 September 2010 00:52
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's post.
only thing good about french is french kiss, 69, some vines, language sounds kind of sexy if someone speaks it you do not expect to speak & ... emm name some more?
11 September 2010 00:49
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's post.
i prefer Wolof
11 September 2010 00:45
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's post.
fuck French
11 September 2010 00:44
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's post.
hahaha, this one is also good, must remember this one also, give some more detail's (Y)
but still, wikipedia info is also not bad about okey :)
but still, wikipedia info is also not bad about okey :)
11 September 2010 00:39
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's post.
u mean the thing back then when was O.K. to sell negros?
I know now :)
oxford says it might also come from African language used between black slaves - this theory is also OK whit me :)
I know now :)
oxford says it might also come from African language used between black slaves - this theory is also OK whit me :)
11 September 2010 00:26
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's post.
okey, he is kind of OK i guess
11 September 2010 00:15
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's post.
what is minus anyway?
11 September 2010 00:13
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's post.
disagree
11 September 2010 00:13
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's post.
Garfield rulz :)
11 September 2010 00:12
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's post.
I remember when some of my friends was looking good paper for a joint and they found a bible. We heard later that some people took this act as a bit insensitive and even kind of disrespectful for some more fanatic people.
Strange world we live in, eh?
Strange world we live in, eh?
10 September 2010 19:50
Margus Meigo commented on Ola Fasola's video.
Si Ola Ścisły, si :)
10 September 2010 19:43
Margus Meigo commented on Andrei Smolievski's photo.
talk whit my hand :D
10 September 2010 10:06
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's post.
Yeah, talk about burning the Qur'an ... as then you might get some actual terror acts going on again if some jackass will think he does patriotic act and burns the book in youtube.
It's kind of hard to provoke (up to 8 million) Muslims in USA but i see the Truth ACT does hard work on that. Who knows, maybe we we can see something similar happening like Japanese-American internment on 1942 but whit Muslims, that would be a lot of fun, or what?
Keep up the good work "Gabriel", as there is not enough violence in world, if we all work together then we can make life so much more exacting for more people.
It's kind of hard to provoke (up to 8 million) Muslims in USA but i see the Truth ACT does hard work on that. Who knows, maybe we we can see something similar happening like Japanese-American internment on 1942 but whit Muslims, that would be a lot of fun, or what?
Keep up the good work "Gabriel", as there is not enough violence in world, if we all work together then we can make life so much more exacting for more people.
9 September 2010 21:02
Margus Meigo commented on Marko Karin's link.
"Pesuloputusvahendi kasutamine on mittesoovitav. Loputusvahendit kasutavad ainult naised ja seda selleks, et oma suguõdedele saata signaal "see mees siin on juba võetud ja sina hoia näpud eemale"."
hahaha :D
hahaha :D
9 September 2010 15:35
Margus Meigo commented on Alfio Mavica's link.
They know how to do it! :)
Love it!
Love it!
9 September 2010 14:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
hahahahahaa
yes, ofcourse, they loving it!
yes, ofcourse, they loving it!
3 September 2010 09:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ei kui aus olla:D
3 September 2010 02:56
Margus Meigo commented on Marco Ciancio's post.
ehehehe :P
Yep.. + i know some places some people do not know ;)
Yep.. + i know some places some people do not know ;)
1 September 2010 00:27
Margus Meigo commented on Marco Ciancio's post.
Thank you man, i apprishiate this! You are not bad at your self also... not bad at all :))
I think i'l see ya around :)
I'l send your group soon some cool videos also!
...(did ya manage to get in to any nice clubs in Tallinn?)
I think i'l see ya around :)
I'l send your group soon some cool videos also!
...(did ya manage to get in to any nice clubs in Tallinn?)
1 September 2010 00:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
That's good! :)
Ehehehe.. thermometer... i was wondering where i forget it... but No need to send it back, it will be gift :))
Ehehehe.. thermometer... i was wondering where i forget it... but No need to send it back, it will be gift :))
31 August 2010 12:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
:D
31 August 2010 01:46
Margus Meigo commented on Gunita Kulikovsky's post.
This makes trip to Latvia worth as you have no mountains or islands to look there anyway - as you know we have them all ;)
30 August 2010 22:04
Margus Meigo commented on Gunita Kulikovsky's post.
Thanks :))
Bdw, did i forget to ask before... from where you got these sexy dance moves you have? Daaaamn girl... pleasant surprise :)
Bdw, did i forget to ask before... from where you got these sexy dance moves you have? Daaaamn girl... pleasant surprise :)
30 August 2010 21:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
LOL, i meant Christos - white out glasses :P
30 August 2010 15:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I know i have some great videos, i will see how/if i distribute them all :P
30 August 2010 11:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
( i DO forget easily a lot of people)
But, it's hard to forget so cute girl : )
How i have been? Well... busy all the time, life is interesting :)
But, it's hard to forget so cute girl : )
How i have been? Well... busy all the time, life is interesting :)
29 August 2010 18:45
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Kuid näeb siis :)
Pealgi oske perre üks korralik terane backup ketas nagu kunagi ütlesin - need kuni 1500 eeku maksvad ja mitmet pidi kasulikud. Arvutit mõtetu koormata fili kogumiteg ja suht ohtlik pere pilte hoida yhes kohas
Pealgi oske perre üks korralik terane backup ketas nagu kunagi ütlesin - need kuni 1500 eeku maksvad ja mitmet pidi kasulikud. Arvutit mõtetu koormata fili kogumiteg ja suht ohtlik pere pilte hoida yhes kohas
29 August 2010 13:58
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
ma september 1 kuni sep 10 olen ära. Kassinnani ka kannatab oodata? :)
29 August 2010 13:48
Margus Meigo commented on Gunita Kulikovsky's post.
it's latvia, they are used to be seccond :P
26 August 2010 23:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
IMHO, Important thing is to understand that there is some things "they" just cant get and it's all up to you, do you hand it over whit a silver platter or worst jet, forget about it and pretend it does not exist. How you think and where you go. All up to you. ..yes, exceptions that prove the rule - we all like to be the exception, self important exception to find easy excuse for our fears and confusions "it's not my fault, they are all bad, life is hard, i am unlucky, i did not ask for it, it's meant to be, i want someone to save me, ...even conformable (new) lie, i want easy way out". So take it, take the easy way out, what are you waiting for? What are your doubts? Why do you need to whip yourself and whit your depression others around? Realize
There is people with way darker roads in life so its harder to see where to go and what to do .... - but we, half a billion people in facebook or in youtube for starters, i am sore most of us can in the end only blame -ME- if we are still unhappy in the end of the day. If you are able to access the internet then most likely you are able to access all the road signs you ever need & i suspect these sings are not hidden in Farm Wille game. No, you are not exception if you are able to think you are.
One only needs to open up, feel it, search it a bit if needed, but most of all - feel it, be it. There is no need to be depressed or afraid as there is no reason, to be, afraid.
There is people with way darker roads in life so its harder to see where to go and what to do .... - but we, half a billion people in facebook or in youtube for starters, i am sore most of us can in the end only blame -ME- if we are still unhappy in the end of the day. If you are able to access the internet then most likely you are able to access all the road signs you ever need & i suspect these sings are not hidden in Farm Wille game. No, you are not exception if you are able to think you are.
One only needs to open up, feel it, search it a bit if needed, but most of all - feel it, be it. There is no need to be depressed or afraid as there is no reason, to be, afraid.
17 August 2010 17:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx458aEnmI8
17 August 2010 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Be awere... for some reason uploader has cut out a part from there.
17 August 2010 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on Alx Andra's post.
Always :))
17 August 2010 15:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Herb: unfortunatelly the ones behind it will most likely ever newer we punished. If, then only some middle mans or someone who is backstabbed by other mates.
Behind the scenes happens just to much and many people are (truly) above the law, they are the law, they are the news, and the standard how you should think and what you should do and protest about.. but yeah, let's not go there now :)
Behind the scenes happens just to much and many people are (truly) above the law, they are the law, they are the news, and the standard how you should think and what you should do and protest about.. but yeah, let's not go there now :)
16 August 2010 15:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I cant belive videos like that have 3,216 views whit in 3 YEARS (the part 4) but bubble gum top 5 songs have ower 10 million views whit less then a year.
Sad.
Sad.
15 August 2010 20:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Iraq Veterans Against the War Speak Out (REALLY worth to take time to listen)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABx4fG1ZJL4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYhuzhCq0 (part 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-S6KWlwXTM (part 3)
http://www.youtube....com/watch?v=iYx5gAcEjwM (part 4)
...
Great to hear American soldiers who speak / see, other side of issue also.
Really worth to listen before you come and label all soldiers as mindless killers or just stupid robotic war hungry tools.
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Iraq Veterans Against the War Washington, DC Chapter president, Geoffrey Millard holds forth on veterans issues, his own experiences while serving in Iraq, and pays tribute to the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, for their having laid the foundation upon which IVAW was built. Geoff was one of 50 Iraq veterans interviewed in the July 30, 2007 issue of The Nation
http://www.thenation.com/issue/july-30-2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABx4fG1ZJL4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYhuzhCq0 (part 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-S6KWlwXTM (part 3)
http://www.youtube....com/watch?v=iYx5gAcEjwM (part 4)
...
Great to hear American soldiers who speak / see, other side of issue also.
Really worth to listen before you come and label all soldiers as mindless killers or just stupid robotic war hungry tools.
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Iraq Veterans Against the War Washington, DC Chapter president, Geoffrey Millard holds forth on veterans issues, his own experiences while serving in Iraq, and pays tribute to the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, for their having laid the foundation upon which IVAW was built. Geoff was one of 50 Iraq veterans interviewed in the July 30, 2007 issue of The Nation
http://www.thenation.com/issue/july-30-2007
15 August 2010 20:36
Margus Meigo commented on Phil Alt's post.
Look the bright side! :))
...yea i know
but i am sore there is one :D
...yea i know
but i am sore there is one :D
15 August 2010 18:33
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Izat's post.
;)
(Y)
(Y)
15 August 2010 18:30
Margus Meigo commented on Dave Wilkinson's link.
This is great read, i will share it with EroWid page soon and help to spread this book, i read a bit more first :))
15 August 2010 17:53
Margus Meigo commented on David Scott Maas's post.
besides other exacting things we announce in future i plan to do a lot of world wide traveling and enjoy this wonderful life :)
15 August 2010 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on L.J. Queen's post.
You are more then wellcomed :)
15 August 2010 15:15
Margus Meigo commented on David Scott Maas's post.
Thank you! Your own activities, profession and interest are also pretty interesting - as this was the reason for contacting first at all :)
---
Well, to be honest almost every day i discover more and more how little i know - it's exacting. Currently we have one EU sponsored non formal global awareness/education program (http://seiklejad.org) going on but as my personal project i am working on one "think outside of the box" online community and video/document archive (psychedelics, philosophy, higher spirituality, history changing technology..). We do our best that it would not end up to be "just another community of..")
Our portal will also (besides many other things) start to host original nterviews with many interesting people from different walks of life. ... well & so much more :)
As of now i have no real financial/programming support to continue in full speed but i am sore i get there, however long it will take :)
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Well, to be honest almost every day i discover more and more how little i know - it's exacting. Currently we have one EU sponsored non formal global awareness/education program (http://seiklejad.org) going on but as my personal project i am working on one "think outside of the box" online community and video/document archive (psychedelics, philosophy, higher spirituality, history changing technology..). We do our best that it would not end up to be "just another community of..")
Our portal will also (besides many other things) start to host original nterviews with many interesting people from different walks of life. ... well & so much more :)
As of now i have no real financial/programming support to continue in full speed but i am sore i get there, however long it will take :)
15 August 2010 15:15
Margus Meigo commented on Mirko Salus's post.
:)
15 August 2010 02:28
Margus Meigo commented on Philipp Lausberg's post.
Well, it's all crazy from head to toe :P
But yeah.. just some trips to Amsterdam, Bulgaria and Russia.. last one was one of the coolest in this year :))
But yeah.. just some trips to Amsterdam, Bulgaria and Russia.. last one was one of the coolest in this year :))
14 August 2010 15:38
Margus Meigo commented on Fahmi King King's post.
hahha, thats true:P
14 August 2010 15:36
Margus Meigo commented on Seene Nõid's post.
Jup. Ning eks selles ongi resto ja resto vahe :)
13 August 2010 00:07
Margus Meigo commented on Seene Nõid's post.
Neeeh.. sorry ei usu endiselt, et enamustes normaalsetes restodes toite uunis valmistatakse sest normaalsetes restodes esiteks ei soendata kastmeid - neid valmistatakse ning kindlasti on suht raske leida makarone sealt menüüdest imho (heausklik nagu ma olen) :)
Laeval aga täitsa usun, et sellist jama tehakse. Maikrahv .. hmm vaatasin nede menüüd .. vb suppe tehakse nii üli kiirel päeval? Kuigi isegi see oleks natuke kahtlane (kuid yeah.. ei vaidle vastu kui ise oma silmaga näinud oled, et seal toidud mis menüüs , on vanad toidud mis võetakse külmast ja siis soendatakse mikrouunis.. kuigi..hmm..)
Kindel, et tegu ei ole kuuma grilli või siis UV, infrapuna "uunidega", infrapuna on ka enamustes resto tava ahjudes sees kuna see aitab naturaalsemalt ja paremini asjadel küpseda.
Kuid yeah...toitu tellides oleks vist suht imeli krestos kysida "kle ega te seda uunis ei tee" ... kuid vist peaks .P
Laeval aga täitsa usun, et sellist jama tehakse. Maikrahv .. hmm vaatasin nede menüüd .. vb suppe tehakse nii üli kiirel päeval? Kuigi isegi see oleks natuke kahtlane (kuid yeah.. ei vaidle vastu kui ise oma silmaga näinud oled, et seal toidud mis menüüs , on vanad toidud mis võetakse külmast ja siis soendatakse mikrouunis.. kuigi..hmm..)
Kindel, et tegu ei ole kuuma grilli või siis UV, infrapuna "uunidega", infrapuna on ka enamustes resto tava ahjudes sees kuna see aitab naturaalsemalt ja paremini asjadel küpseda.
Kuid yeah...toitu tellides oleks vist suht imeli krestos kysida "kle ega te seda uunis ei tee" ... kuid vist peaks .P
12 August 2010 15:57
Margus Meigo commented on Seene Nõid's post.
nu see ei tähenda, et kõiki toite uuniga tehakse, korralikudes restodes see ikka suht harv värk kui nii tehakse, sest omanikud ei riskiks millegi sellisega ja peakokad lahkuksid töölt :)
Millistes restodes sa uuni näinud oled muidu ? Huvitav oleks nende menyyd sirvida siis ja välja mõelda mida nad uuniga teevad seal.
Millistes restodes sa uuni näinud oled muidu ? Huvitav oleks nende menyyd sirvida siis ja välja mõelda mida nad uuniga teevad seal.
12 August 2010 02:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Ei ole probleemi, peaasi, et programm alles jääb :))
11 August 2010 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on Seene Nõid's post.
Mari - nii hull see asi nüüd ka ei ole... but not that people would care kus mis tehtud un :)
11 August 2010 09:56
Margus Meigo commented on Oomas Alt's photo.
Awww : )))
10 August 2010 13:13
Margus Meigo commented on Fahmi King King's post.
Busy - hundred and one things need to be done :)
10 August 2010 10:01
Margus Meigo commented on Seene Nõid's post.
Nu kui päris purgerit süüa, sellist korraliku kus pole solki sees siis täitsa mõistan seda soovi sellest unistada. Kuid seda siin vist ainult paaris kohas müüakse kus käinud olen.
Päris/normaalse juustu/hamBurgeri basic omadused:
1) seal on PÄRIS juust mitte see odav imitatsioon mida juustu pähe müüakse (u know, need kandilised jurad, kile sees)
2) burgeri vahel on PÄRIS sisu värskest haklihast, jms mis värske või kohapeal küpsetatud, just su tellimuse jaoks.
3) sai, ei ole nagu ketsitald ja on hiljuti või kohapeal küpsetatud burgeri jaoks - kindlasti ei tohi tegu olla poes müüdava maitsetu burgerisaia kontsudega, kui just kodus ei tee purxi
4) by defoult serveeritakse korralik burger lisanditega taldrikul ning kindlasti mitte odava tilkuma hakkava paberi vahel
5) kaste ei ole mitte mingil juhul odav segu odavatest majoneesidest ja ketsupitest
6) toitu EI valmistata mikrouunis!
7) see kes burgeri toob oskab sulle detailselt seletada mis seal burgeri sees on ja kuidas see on küpsetatud. Ning see peaks rohkem aega võtma kui 6 sekundit millega saab pea kõik siin tänaval müüdud burgerid kirjeldatud.
- no sel juhul juba räägime maitsvast burgerist millele mõeldes tasub natuke aega raisata imho.
Eesti siiani kõige jubedamad burgerid on vist vabaka Söögi Platsil kus nad ise ka ei osanud öelda mis selle kotleti moodi asja sees on, ning kas seal peale purustatud kondijahu, loomajäätmete, sojaubade ja kemikalide muud ka on mida nad mikrouunis soojaks ajavad
.
Kuskil tänaval müüdi solgita kebaabi burgereid ka varem - kuid enam pole need silma jäänud. Keegi teab?
Pole viitsinud burgeri koha nii palju kirjutatadi varem :D
Päris/normaalse juustu/hamBurgeri basic omadused:
1) seal on PÄRIS juust mitte see odav imitatsioon mida juustu pähe müüakse (u know, need kandilised jurad, kile sees)
2) burgeri vahel on PÄRIS sisu värskest haklihast, jms mis värske või kohapeal küpsetatud, just su tellimuse jaoks.
3) sai, ei ole nagu ketsitald ja on hiljuti või kohapeal küpsetatud burgeri jaoks - kindlasti ei tohi tegu olla poes müüdava maitsetu burgerisaia kontsudega, kui just kodus ei tee purxi
4) by defoult serveeritakse korralik burger lisanditega taldrikul ning kindlasti mitte odava tilkuma hakkava paberi vahel
5) kaste ei ole mitte mingil juhul odav segu odavatest majoneesidest ja ketsupitest
6) toitu EI valmistata mikrouunis!
7) see kes burgeri toob oskab sulle detailselt seletada mis seal burgeri sees on ja kuidas see on küpsetatud. Ning see peaks rohkem aega võtma kui 6 sekundit millega saab pea kõik siin tänaval müüdud burgerid kirjeldatud.
- no sel juhul juba räägime maitsvast burgerist millele mõeldes tasub natuke aega raisata imho.
Eesti siiani kõige jubedamad burgerid on vist vabaka Söögi Platsil kus nad ise ka ei osanud öelda mis selle kotleti moodi asja sees on, ning kas seal peale purustatud kondijahu, loomajäätmete, sojaubade ja kemikalide muud ka on mida nad mikrouunis soojaks ajavad
.
Kuskil tänaval müüdi solgita kebaabi burgereid ka varem - kuid enam pole need silma jäänud. Keegi teab?
Pole viitsinud burgeri koha nii palju kirjutatadi varem :D
10 August 2010 09:48
Margus Meigo commented on Seene Nõid's post.
juustupurx teeb ärksaks uuesti?
9 August 2010 23:34
Margus Meigo commented on Raul Kübarsepp's link.
Tabel on võimas ja hea, kuid kohe kuidagi ei saa klikkida "i like this".
FB peaks olema veel valik "it's damn sad" lisaks "like"le
FB peaks olema veel valik "it's damn sad" lisaks "like"le
9 August 2010 23:12
Margus Meigo commented on Raul Kübarsepp's link.
Billi sõnad tulevad meelde "I had a vision of a way we could have no enemies ever again, if you're interested in this. Anybody interested in hearing this?
It's kind of an interesting theory, and all we have to do is make one decisive act and we can rid the world of all our enemies at once.
Here's what we do. You know all that money we spend on nuclear weapons and defense every year? Trillions of dollars.
Instead, if we spent that money feeding and clothing the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over,
not one human being excluded ... not one ... we could as one race explore inner and outer space together in peace, forever."
Kuid yeah, seda ei juhtu kui just keegi ylem rass siinsetele piitsa ei anna või siis global psy trip samal ajal... kuid need varjandid on vist veel vähem tõenäolisemad kui Tom Cruise'le järgi tulevale kosmoselaevale saada.
It's kind of an interesting theory, and all we have to do is make one decisive act and we can rid the world of all our enemies at once.
Here's what we do. You know all that money we spend on nuclear weapons and defense every year? Trillions of dollars.
Instead, if we spent that money feeding and clothing the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over,
not one human being excluded ... not one ... we could as one race explore inner and outer space together in peace, forever."
Kuid yeah, seda ei juhtu kui just keegi ylem rass siinsetele piitsa ei anna või siis global psy trip samal ajal... kuid need varjandid on vist veel vähem tõenäolisemad kui Tom Cruise'le järgi tulevale kosmoselaevale saada.
9 August 2010 23:11
Margus Meigo commented on Seene Nõid's link.
irw: http://robotaanikapark.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/0000344.jpg
6 August 2010 00:30
Margus Meigo commented on Getter Salus's post.
they :D
4 August 2010 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on Getter Salus's post.
Mitte ainult sinu... veel mitme inimese kullakene :)
4 August 2010 22:51
Margus Meigo commented on Katrin Toe's photo.
jup, King is newer naked also... :D
4 August 2010 00:57
Margus Meigo commented on Katrin Toe's photo.
Ummmmmm.... :)
4 August 2010 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on Katrin Toe's photo.
HA-Ha, yes I was the one who had trouble with walking xD
4 August 2010 00:47
Margus Meigo commented on Bojan Tezak's photo.
Upload some to our page also :)
You have really nice pictures bdw!
You have really nice pictures bdw!
26 July 2010 04:06
Margus Meigo commented on Uku Légal's post.
Thanks for the party! :))
bdw - kõrvaklapid leitsid õige omaniku ike lõpuks?
bdw - kõrvaklapid leitsid õige omaniku ike lõpuks?
26 July 2010 01:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
NB!: "MANATARGAQ " IS FINALY GOING TO TAKE PLACE IN VÕSU, VIHULA PARISH, LÄÄNE-VIRUMAA STATE !!!
22 July 2010 22:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
SURYA - MAIN SAIKODELIC LIVE:
* Puoskari (6 Dimension Soundz) FI
* Bechamel Boys (POTB) FI
* Lemon Slide (Freakdance Records) Fi
* Nebula Meltdown (SunTrip Records) FI
* Alektronick (Embliom Records / Speakeasy Productions) PT
* Tom Wanks FI
* Gaiana (Blue Hour Sound Records) NL/LT
* Portal Protection (Arkona Creation Records) EE
* Chaotic Synthetics EE
Dj`s:
* Bluestorm (Blue Hour Sound Records) NL
* Admiral Appo (Pekkanikkarinen/ Bechamel Boys) FI
* Polly and Miazu (Exogenic Records/POTB) FI
http://www.myspace.com/miazu
http://www.myspace.com/polly_potb
* Kolibriscope fi
* Tim Duster (Elixiria) Fi
* Unitone (SunStation Records) EE
* Tapecut & Txotx (ArtCafe) ee
* Shatki (Arkona Creation Records/Chillum tribe) ee
* Agni (Arkona Creation Records/Chillum tribe) ee
* Jugar (Chillum Tribe) ee
* Hawaiik (Chillum Tribe) ee
* Pruzinkin (Cosmogen Music) ee
* Psyfreak (Sounds of Aliens) ee
* Psyhest (Sounds of Aliens) ee
* Voodoo (Planetarium Group) ee
* Cycb (Planetarium Group)
* Andy (Radiotrance) ee
* Cervezafa ee
* Rost (Transgress) ee
VJ`s:
Wickiss(Klusadaba) LV
Spectromatic visual culture EE
PintaMimic EE
Visuals from VIDEAL
* Puoskari (6 Dimension Soundz) FI
* Bechamel Boys (POTB) FI
* Lemon Slide (Freakdance Records) Fi
* Nebula Meltdown (SunTrip Records) FI
* Alektronick (Embliom Records / Speakeasy Productions) PT
* Tom Wanks FI
* Gaiana (Blue Hour Sound Records) NL/LT
* Portal Protection (Arkona Creation Records) EE
* Chaotic Synthetics EE
Dj`s:
* Bluestorm (Blue Hour Sound Records) NL
* Admiral Appo (Pekkanikkarinen/ Bechamel Boys) FI
* Polly and Miazu (Exogenic Records/POTB) FI
http://www.myspace.com/miazu
http://www.myspace.com/polly_potb
* Kolibriscope fi
* Tim Duster (Elixiria) Fi
* Unitone (SunStation Records) EE
* Tapecut & Txotx (ArtCafe) ee
* Shatki (Arkona Creation Records/Chillum tribe) ee
* Agni (Arkona Creation Records/Chillum tribe) ee
* Jugar (Chillum Tribe) ee
* Hawaiik (Chillum Tribe) ee
* Pruzinkin (Cosmogen Music) ee
* Psyfreak (Sounds of Aliens) ee
* Psyhest (Sounds of Aliens) ee
* Voodoo (Planetarium Group) ee
* Cycb (Planetarium Group)
* Andy (Radiotrance) ee
* Cervezafa ee
* Rost (Transgress) ee
VJ`s:
Wickiss(Klusadaba) LV
Spectromatic visual culture EE
PintaMimic EE
Visuals from VIDEAL
21 July 2010 10:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
VAYU - ALTERNATIVE & LIVE ARENA
* DUBYSA lt
* WRUPK UREI
* PHLOX
* MULTIPHONIC RODENT
* YAGA
* PHONIX (Triophonix)
* JUNK RIOT
* METRO ALTAIR
* IO (Paul In & Paul Out)
* SCIENCEFROMSAIGON
* HRR
* ILIJA & MOSTBAND
* SYS TEAM
* DUBYSA lt
* WRUPK UREI
* PHLOX
* MULTIPHONIC RODENT
* YAGA
* PHONIX (Triophonix)
* JUNK RIOT
* METRO ALTAIR
* IO (Paul In & Paul Out)
* SCIENCEFROMSAIGON
* HRR
* ILIJA & MOSTBAND
* SYS TEAM
21 July 2010 10:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
VARUNA
VARUNA-Yoga, different seminars, Krishna`s organization, children`s playground.
-Anamda Vardhana Das will make lecture "Ayrveda - Law of Happy Life"
-Aleksandr Nevmerzhitskiy lecture.
- The Ritual Theatre Wyrd
The ritual theatre Wyrd has brought to the stage the play "The Creation Continues" (in Estonian: Loomine kestab)
This play has been brought to life to revivify the primal wisdom and sanative attitude towards life of the native Indians as well as the ability to read the signs of the Spirit.
The ritual theatre Wyrd has sprung up from the shaman chamber Vaimukanuu (The Spirit Canoe)
The substance of the first play of this theatre derives from the times of the Medicine Men of American native nations as well as of modern wisdom. Through the play this wisdom has been sprouted into nowaday´s soil where it will fructify.
http://sites.google.com/site/rituaalteaterwyrd/Home
VARUNA-Yoga, different seminars, Krishna`s organization, children`s playground.
-Anamda Vardhana Das will make lecture "Ayrveda - Law of Happy Life"
-Aleksandr Nevmerzhitskiy lecture.
- The Ritual Theatre Wyrd
The ritual theatre Wyrd has brought to the stage the play "The Creation Continues" (in Estonian: Loomine kestab)
This play has been brought to life to revivify the primal wisdom and sanative attitude towards life of the native Indians as well as the ability to read the signs of the Spirit.
The ritual theatre Wyrd has sprung up from the shaman chamber Vaimukanuu (The Spirit Canoe)
The substance of the first play of this theatre derives from the times of the Medicine Men of American native nations as well as of modern wisdom. Through the play this wisdom has been sprouted into nowaday´s soil where it will fructify.
http://sites.google.com/site/rituaalteaterwyrd/Home
21 July 2010 10:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
If you like something shorter then take look at this: From Neurons to Nirvana - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut25vuxP564
21 July 2010 10:26
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Ree's post.
Group: "One World - Our World!" YE in Saaremaa, Estonia
In reasonable ways ;)20 July 2010 01:04
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Jup. Vaatab, kuigi mul siin paar asja ees momendil ja eriti alkot suurelt lahendada kuna to pole minu aine (suurtemates kogustes) ja homme vaja trixis traxis kah olla projekti asjus. Natuke vb hängida võib kyll - vaatab õhta poole kuidas ajaga on :)
- ega pralle koht pole paika pandud?
Ma reedest kuni pühapäevani APV meeting mu saarema projecti osas, seega nädalavahetusel i am out :)
- ega pralle koht pole paika pandud?
Ma reedest kuni pühapäevani APV meeting mu saarema projecti osas, seega nädalavahetusel i am out :)
15 July 2010 16:12
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
aight :)
15 July 2010 16:10
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Kant on sama kus after pralle toimub?
15 July 2010 16:01
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Jup. Vaatab, kuigi mul siin paar asja ees momendil ja eriti alkot suurelt lahendada kuna to pole minu aine (suurtemates kogustes) ja homme vaja trixis traxis kah olla projekti asjus. Natuke vb hängida võib kyll - vaatab õhta poole kuidas ajaga on :)
15 July 2010 16:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
PS: also "fallow" the blog :)
15 July 2010 15:18
Margus Meigo commented on Baycho Georgiev's post.
Group: "One World - Our World!" YE in Saaremaa, Estonia
Great, we added it to http://www.facebook.com/Seiklejad.Org favorites. Does other organizations have also FB pages/groups ? 15 July 2010 14:45
Margus Meigo commented on Baycho Georgiev's link.
Great, we added it to http://www.facebook.com/Seiklejad.Org favorites. Does other organizations have also FB pages/groups ?
15 July 2010 14:45
Margus Meigo commented on Seene Nõid's post.
Nii tore kui noortel varakult juba eluvisioon olemas ja teavad mida tahavad :)
15 July 2010 11:32
Margus Meigo commented on Disinformation's link.
Next they can make research that natural tomatoes ( in Chernobyl ) might be much unhealthier then the ones they grow with chemicals.
12 July 2010 20:17
Margus Meigo commented on Disinformation's link.
Planet does not need saving - people do.
Planet is fine and will be fine after we are gone - compared to earth time it should be "soon"
Planet is fine and will be fine after we are gone - compared to earth time it should be "soon"
12 July 2010 20:14
Margus Meigo commented on Disinformation's link.
This is one way to get important history highlights to wider audience , really liked it :)
12 July 2010 19:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.facebook.com/CopsSayLegalizeDrugs
11 July 2010 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.facebook.com/CopsSayLegalizeDrugs
11 July 2010 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
One other note: the price of most harmful drugs, most addictive drugs is down and they are more available - the drugs that are not so addictive (or not at all), not medically harmful - mostly psychedelics, situation whit them is opposite.
Price of these from 70's is much higher, the availability is.. well ... go and try to ask some good, real LSD from people and you understand what i mean. So i guess "war on drugs" did their job really well. As its kind of impossible that so many smart people did not know this outcome when they started it.
Price of these from 70's is much higher, the availability is.. well ... go and try to ask some good, real LSD from people and you understand what i mean. So i guess "war on drugs" did their job really well. As its kind of impossible that so many smart people did not know this outcome when they started it.
11 July 2010 01:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Thanks Maiken... :)
Wou... someone actually read entire post, cool :)
Wou... someone actually read entire post, cool :)
10 July 2010 01:01
Margus Meigo commented on Rene Rumberg's post.
Ega siin Eestis on olukord ikka kordades kordades hullem kui ameerikas nede asjadega. Mine kohalikele Psy pidudele ja hippi komuunidesse, usas saad vabalt koju ka seeni tellida ja neid kasvama panna, peyotte peaks kättesaadav olema jpms.
Mul väga palju tuttavaid kes sellises maailmas elavad kui kellegil peaaegu kunagi ei ole midagi sellist (ainult amfetamiine, korgijooke, komme ja muud kahjulikku rämpsu on võimalik kergelt leida millel HOOPIS muu toime). See on eduka "War On Drugs" tagajärg kus propakandaga ja inimeste teadvuse tymitamisega on sinnani jõutud, et rahavas kaanib ainult alkoholi, suitsetab, närib anti depresante või midagi veel jubedamat.
Kanaadas peaks asjad veel rohkem liikvel olema. Kus linnas täpselt oled?
Eestis paar normimat pid tuleb ka nyyd kuu lõpus ja järgmise alguses. Kuigi ega see ei tähenda, et sealt midagi leiab sedasi lampi. Vähemalt leiad uusi sõpru kes kogemusi saab jagada jne.
Kõige kindlam on sul endal usast seene blottereid kaasa osta ja ise kasvama panna ning nede eest kogu hindega hoolt kanda, see paneb taime rohkem austama ka kui ise vaeva näed :)
Mul väga palju tuttavaid kes sellises maailmas elavad kui kellegil peaaegu kunagi ei ole midagi sellist (ainult amfetamiine, korgijooke, komme ja muud kahjulikku rämpsu on võimalik kergelt leida millel HOOPIS muu toime). See on eduka "War On Drugs" tagajärg kus propakandaga ja inimeste teadvuse tymitamisega on sinnani jõutud, et rahavas kaanib ainult alkoholi, suitsetab, närib anti depresante või midagi veel jubedamat.
Kanaadas peaks asjad veel rohkem liikvel olema. Kus linnas täpselt oled?
Eestis paar normimat pid tuleb ka nyyd kuu lõpus ja järgmise alguses. Kuigi ega see ei tähenda, et sealt midagi leiab sedasi lampi. Vähemalt leiad uusi sõpru kes kogemusi saab jagada jne.
Kõige kindlam on sul endal usast seene blottereid kaasa osta ja ise kasvama panna ning nede eest kogu hindega hoolt kanda, see paneb taime rohkem austama ka kui ise vaeva näed :)
9 July 2010 19:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yhesõnaga mitte minu profriilil, vaid PAGEL, LINKS, ...mitte see psy experience link :)
9 July 2010 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's link.
Will be there :))
8 July 2010 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on Rene Rumberg's post.
Hommikust!
Kirelt,Kiirelt :)
Endal?
Kirelt,Kiirelt :)
Endal?
8 July 2010 20:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQE7IuPmECk
6 July 2010 22:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
One more: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=28903
So, my girlfriend was the one who actually told me about acid and how relatively safe it is. so one cool and cloudy afternoon i decided to take a tab. since it was my firt time i did only take one. Now supposedly i am one of those rare ones that can't see any color. Completely colorblind. I can't see any of those numbers in the tests at the optometrists, so i guess i can't see color (bullshit in my opinion). Anywho, it seemed to take a long time to kick in, roughly 45 min to an hour. When i did start tripping, i noticed a slight change. The colors i see and yes i do believe i see color, were slightly more vivid. and as it progressed they softened and sharpened at what seemed to be random intervals. The sky was green for a while and there were pink trails in it. they were all so pretty. I can't imagine what being able to see color and tripping on acid would be like. I had an amazing time and will do it again soon.
So, my girlfriend was the one who actually told me about acid and how relatively safe it is. so one cool and cloudy afternoon i decided to take a tab. since it was my firt time i did only take one. Now supposedly i am one of those rare ones that can't see any color. Completely colorblind. I can't see any of those numbers in the tests at the optometrists, so i guess i can't see color (bullshit in my opinion). Anywho, it seemed to take a long time to kick in, roughly 45 min to an hour. When i did start tripping, i noticed a slight change. The colors i see and yes i do believe i see color, were slightly more vivid. and as it progressed they softened and sharpened at what seemed to be random intervals. The sky was green for a while and there were pink trails in it. they were all so pretty. I can't imagine what being able to see color and tripping on acid would be like. I had an amazing time and will do it again soon.
6 July 2010 22:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
One more colorblind people report:
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=28394
I am at the extreme end of the colour blindness scale, not quite monochrome, but close enough for me to misinterpret all but the most vivid of colours. Yet under the influence of LSD, my colour perceptions began to heighten. At first, I put this down to mere visual hallucinations, but steadily I began to notice, for the first time a difference in appearance between the leaves of a tree and its bark. Attempting to study this difference was at first difficult, due to the fact that the leaves were consistently changing into birds, faces, cakes, kites, etc... Once I had become accustomed to the intensely visual nature of the drug, I started to explore my surroundings in more depth.
Until this point, I had always relied upon the shade of an object to determine its colour; placing it into a 'grouping', such as red/green/brown, blue/purple/pink, orange/yellow/light-green and so on. During my LSD experience, it began to determine between what I can only describe as the 'hues' of colour. My inability to be any clearer is not due to lack of observation, but due to lack of reference point. Indeed, during one moment of intense elation, I remember giggling wildly, weeping at nature's real beauty and talking directly to the colours saying, 'I can see you, but I don't know what to call you...!'
I then began to slip into a period of contentment and after a couple of hours of manic laughter, playing with the grass, the trees, the sky and my friends' face, I decided to calm down a little and begin a serious study of the effects upon my colour perception. Therefore, I initiated my friend into my experiments and we began testing with whatever was available. The most bizarre element to these experiments was the need to spend an hour learning all of the colours from scratch. One I had a visual reference point, he tested me with various items, such as coloured pencils, leaves and magazines. We even attempted an online Ishihara Test for Colour Blindness, once we had retired indoors, but this was not successful due to the fact that the dots continually morphed into one another.
After several hours, my friend, who has unimpaired colour vision, determined that I could indeed see colour.
However, due to the horrific and terrifying self-examination of the inner workings of my mind and the dark passages within, that occurred in the final six hours of my experience, I have decided that should I indulge again, I shall be a little more reserved with regards to my dosage.
I have also come to the conclusion that I do not like the colour brown...!
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=28394
I am at the extreme end of the colour blindness scale, not quite monochrome, but close enough for me to misinterpret all but the most vivid of colours. Yet under the influence of LSD, my colour perceptions began to heighten. At first, I put this down to mere visual hallucinations, but steadily I began to notice, for the first time a difference in appearance between the leaves of a tree and its bark. Attempting to study this difference was at first difficult, due to the fact that the leaves were consistently changing into birds, faces, cakes, kites, etc... Once I had become accustomed to the intensely visual nature of the drug, I started to explore my surroundings in more depth.
Until this point, I had always relied upon the shade of an object to determine its colour; placing it into a 'grouping', such as red/green/brown, blue/purple/pink, orange/yellow/light-green and so on. During my LSD experience, it began to determine between what I can only describe as the 'hues' of colour. My inability to be any clearer is not due to lack of observation, but due to lack of reference point. Indeed, during one moment of intense elation, I remember giggling wildly, weeping at nature's real beauty and talking directly to the colours saying, 'I can see you, but I don't know what to call you...!'
I then began to slip into a period of contentment and after a couple of hours of manic laughter, playing with the grass, the trees, the sky and my friends' face, I decided to calm down a little and begin a serious study of the effects upon my colour perception. Therefore, I initiated my friend into my experiments and we began testing with whatever was available. The most bizarre element to these experiments was the need to spend an hour learning all of the colours from scratch. One I had a visual reference point, he tested me with various items, such as coloured pencils, leaves and magazines. We even attempted an online Ishihara Test for Colour Blindness, once we had retired indoors, but this was not successful due to the fact that the dots continually morphed into one another.
After several hours, my friend, who has unimpaired colour vision, determined that I could indeed see colour.
However, due to the horrific and terrifying self-examination of the inner workings of my mind and the dark passages within, that occurred in the final six hours of my experience, I have decided that should I indulge again, I shall be a little more reserved with regards to my dosage.
I have also come to the conclusion that I do not like the colour brown...!
6 July 2010 22:23
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Drop acid, not bombs.
I always like this guy! :))30 June 2010 12:47
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Paranormal, Spirituality & Metaphysics
I always like this guy! :))30 June 2010 12:47
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Decriminalize All Psychedelics. Now!
I always like this guy! :))30 June 2010 12:47
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies Fans
I always like this guy! :))30 June 2010 12:47
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
I always like this guy! :))
30 June 2010 12:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own note.
And lets not forget: http://maps.org/
http://www.maps.org/interestingpapers.html
http://www.maps.org/avarchive/
And do not forget to "like" our facebook EroWid fan page: http://www.facebook.com/Erowid.Org ;)
http://www.maps.org/interestingpapers.html
http://www.maps.org/avarchive/
And do not forget to "like" our facebook EroWid fan page: http://www.facebook.com/Erowid.Org ;)
30 June 2010 03:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(some of this guy "findings" are pretty funny)
30 June 2010 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
The Men Who Stare at Goats 2.0 ? :P
30 June 2010 02:36
Margus Meigo commented on Zeitgeist's link.
Some good reading.. if one really is interested about what facts are facts http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4196 :)
28 June 2010 16:26
Margus Meigo commented on Zeitgeist's link.
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4196 some good reading :)
28 June 2010 16:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
To bad so few people have seen it (or understood)
26 June 2010 23:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Thanks man :)
Are you from SA?
Are you from SA?
25 June 2010 16:12
Margus Meigo commented on Seene Nõid's post.
Depression is one of the greatest illusions even if they can measure it these days... our mind is POWERFUL thingy... free it :)
25 June 2010 12:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Paraeguseks meil on ainult 35 Eestlasest liiget Erowid facebooki lehel - tule liitu sina ka. Erowidi kylastab yle 55 000 inimese IGA PÄEV! :)
See on leht kus leiad kasulikku infot mitte ainult endale (alkoholist kuni suitsu ja kohvini) vaid ka muud informatsiooni mis mõnele su tuttavale võib elupäästvaks osutuda. Üle 50ne tuhande lehel oleva dokumendi seast leiad kindlasti lihtsa otsinguga endale vajalikud materjalid koolitööks või eluks.
Ning kui aega saad siis lugege ka päevaseid reporte või sisestage endi omi: "Those who Speak Don't Know: In Defense of Psy" http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=76922 (üks näide päevastest reportidest)
"Becoming Another: Ego-Loss & Self Realization
LSD & Cannabis" (kellaajastatud report)
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=76926
Search more:
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp_search.cgi
See on leht kus leiad kasulikku infot mitte ainult endale (alkoholist kuni suitsu ja kohvini) vaid ka muud informatsiooni mis mõnele su tuttavale võib elupäästvaks osutuda. Üle 50ne tuhande lehel oleva dokumendi seast leiad kindlasti lihtsa otsinguga endale vajalikud materjalid koolitööks või eluks.
Ning kui aega saad siis lugege ka päevaseid reporte või sisestage endi omi: "Those who Speak Don't Know: In Defense of Psy" http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=76922 (üks näide päevastest reportidest)
"Becoming Another: Ego-Loss & Self Realization
LSD & Cannabis" (kellaajastatud report)
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=76926
Search more:
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp_search.cgi
24 June 2010 16:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mul yhe inimese number oli kes seda tegi kuid see suht exootiline siin. Inimesed teevad ise - need vähesed kes viitsivad või oskavad.
Materjal ise on 20 eurot g - seega ega yeah... alko lembeline eesti kes tahab kohe pudeli lahti teha ja juba tunni pärast juuatäis olla selliste asjadega tegeleda eriti ei viitsi - ning nõudlust ka ei ole..
Materjal ise on 20 eurot g - seega ega yeah... alko lembeline eesti kes tahab kohe pudeli lahti teha ja juba tunni pärast juuatäis olla selliste asjadega tegeleda eriti ei viitsi - ning nõudlust ka ei ole..
23 June 2010 19:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Väga nice oli. Muidugi mitte nii kena reis kui seentega kuid ega need ei olegi loodud üheks ja samaks reisiks :)
prantsusmaal pidi suht lihtne toormaterali leidmine olema ju.. ma kuulsin.
prantsusmaal pidi suht lihtne toormaterali leidmine olema ju.. ma kuulsin.
23 June 2010 13:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
there will be robotanika park http://www.robopark.eu/2010/ in august 6-8 and also www.psyrise.co.uk PsyRice on august 28-29 :)
But there is only pre-sale tickets.
But there is only pre-sale tickets.
22 June 2010 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on Benjy Davenport's post.
But yeah i personally do not care so much about average club music and a lot of drinking noise anymore.
Also there is BIG holiday coming in next days... there will be HUGE parties out side of Tallinn whit BIG fires.,, make sore to check out the best ones. do NOT stay in tallinn, it would be waste of time.
I can look for you some places where party is biggest (or the fire) ...i my self have not yet made plans also where to go.
ya can sms/call me up +372 566 25551 tomorrow or anytime u need any help/get lost. I live in city center walking distance from Viru Center (2 stop with tram to Kadrioru direction or Gonsori)
Also there is BIG holiday coming in next days... there will be HUGE parties out side of Tallinn whit BIG fires.,, make sore to check out the best ones. do NOT stay in tallinn, it would be waste of time.
I can look for you some places where party is biggest (or the fire) ...i my self have not yet made plans also where to go.
ya can sms/call me up +372 566 25551 tomorrow or anytime u need any help/get lost. I live in city center walking distance from Viru Center (2 stop with tram to Kadrioru direction or Gonsori)
22 June 2010 00:03
Margus Meigo commented on Benjy Davenport's post.
I personally do not like most places anymore in old town... im more in to the underground places now :)
If you want to get a taste of fresh beer try Beer House - they have own factory middle of old town, really big place. Might even have band today.
Many tourists like Bub whit no Name (nimeta baar) & other side of street the Tonic (old bub Whit Name) also as there is many drunken girls and lot of noise :D Bought sides of of Tonic have striptise. Near by is gay clubäs Angel & something else with good music. large aas club Hollywood (people like it but i do ot think to much of it)
i personally like places like Art Cafee (Pärnu mnt. 18, near to freedom square) where they play some soft electro, psychedelic, alternative etc. Depends the day. Depeche Mode club also have some great music sometimes in old town. One more hard core alternative place is Levist Väljas ("Out of Service").. well once u get there u understand why they name it like this :D
There is more places where you can smoke pipe
There is also more niser places (a way) like Amigo, 360°, Bonnie & Clyde, Cathouse, Club Von Überblingen , Parlament, Panoram, Privee, Spider, Venus., Von Krahl ... some times some of them have really good nights and also there is nicer people (on some of them). Many of them ask to much money for the drinks & girls know what they ask from tourists.. :P ..i do recommend to check out some of them. OMellis bad karaoke with drunks is definitely not Estonia standard :P
places where they play rock music like Tapper (live bands often), Rock Cafee (not the original one) and of course Woodstock near to freedom sqre (go floor down there).
webistes kuhuminna.ee and mistoimub.ee will also help you out..event datbases.
If you want to get a taste of fresh beer try Beer House - they have own factory middle of old town, really big place. Might even have band today.
Many tourists like Bub whit no Name (nimeta baar) & other side of street the Tonic (old bub Whit Name) also as there is many drunken girls and lot of noise :D Bought sides of of Tonic have striptise. Near by is gay clubäs Angel & something else with good music. large aas club Hollywood (people like it but i do ot think to much of it)
i personally like places like Art Cafee (Pärnu mnt. 18, near to freedom square) where they play some soft electro, psychedelic, alternative etc. Depends the day. Depeche Mode club also have some great music sometimes in old town. One more hard core alternative place is Levist Väljas ("Out of Service").. well once u get there u understand why they name it like this :D
There is more places where you can smoke pipe
There is also more niser places (a way) like Amigo, 360°, Bonnie & Clyde, Cathouse, Club Von Überblingen , Parlament, Panoram, Privee, Spider, Venus., Von Krahl ... some times some of them have really good nights and also there is nicer people (on some of them). Many of them ask to much money for the drinks & girls know what they ask from tourists.. :P ..i do recommend to check out some of them. OMellis bad karaoke with drunks is definitely not Estonia standard :P
places where they play rock music like Tapper (live bands often), Rock Cafee (not the original one) and of course Woodstock near to freedom sqre (go floor down there).
webistes kuhuminna.ee and mistoimub.ee will also help you out..event datbases.
21 June 2010 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on Benjy Davenport's post.
Up to what day ur here? :) What is your planes? What kind of bubs or chillout places you like ?
21 June 2010 20:57
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's post.
Auts! Toida naha igast õlide jms.. kyll paraneb ja ära ranna hooaega (kõik ned 3 päeva) selle pärast kyll vahele jäta!
21 June 2010 16:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Jup, can you imagine if it would work out well... it must.
I have always wanted that Estonia would have something similar as it would be really good point geographically and politically (and we do have one of the most free medias in world). If politicians would only have a balls... :)
Hey are you guys planning to come to Estonia also any time? On 23-25th on july we have nice festival (also in august) :))
I have always wanted that Estonia would have something similar as it would be really good point geographically and politically (and we do have one of the most free medias in world). If politicians would only have a balls... :)
Hey are you guys planning to come to Estonia also any time? On 23-25th on july we have nice festival (also in august) :))
21 June 2010 12:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I remember once outside Estonia one was using whit hes girlfriend 5 grams REALLY strong hassh mixed with opium in a cake for 2.. well this was event that one would not want to recall ever :D
In a way it was fun experiment after 3th day when everything turned back to normal.
In a way it was fun experiment after 3th day when everything turned back to normal.
21 June 2010 03:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Well the chemicals usually are not much more chemicals then the ones they feed you from market whit tomatoes and other ordinary food but yeah... i understand what you mean.
The most harmful method to use plants is by burning them so whatever chemicals was first there is miniature (i think almost always) compared with the chemicals if one burns (any) plant.
Anyway, the 1/6th of ounce is like 4.6 grams right ? I think your cake was WAY stronger ;)
Well, amount for us was about 0.2 grams per person (dried, stronger one). Same plant for smoking 0.14 grams per person (aprox) was more then enough before. as most of the needed material burns away when you torch it directly i was thinking this was good enough amount to test... as by eating it can be about 3-5 times stronger (we thought).
Our needed components was boiled over half an hour in fat/water before, to really extract needed components and later the fat was used.
So yes... not to strong one but still stronger then most of the tasty cakes i have eaten in Holland (its kind of strange, i have tested 5 different places but none of them impressed me at ALL... so makes me wonder how big rip-offs most of these cakes with 10 euros price tag are). Old times, 6-7 + years ago i remember good cakes.. but now... its just about selling some crap to tourists i think.
But yes.. in here its all to expensive as you can imagine the real price tag for your cake would have been over 100 dollars and if you compare income it would be for us like 3-4 hundred dollars PER person :D
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No wonder most people here uses harmful chemicals (amphetamines, heroin, GHB, Solvents, glue, paint...arrh) or/and drinks alcohol in large amounts as there is no REAL drug education and these harmful, addictive drugs are SO much cheaper then the ones that can, and often ARE useful. Besides being pretty safe same time.
I guess "War on Drugs" has done hes job here as all the substances that make you realize how you get fked every day - are really hard to find and expensive for most people but all the addictive crap is easily reachable ...
The most harmful method to use plants is by burning them so whatever chemicals was first there is miniature (i think almost always) compared with the chemicals if one burns (any) plant.
Anyway, the 1/6th of ounce is like 4.6 grams right ? I think your cake was WAY stronger ;)
Well, amount for us was about 0.2 grams per person (dried, stronger one). Same plant for smoking 0.14 grams per person (aprox) was more then enough before. as most of the needed material burns away when you torch it directly i was thinking this was good enough amount to test... as by eating it can be about 3-5 times stronger (we thought).
Our needed components was boiled over half an hour in fat/water before, to really extract needed components and later the fat was used.
So yes... not to strong one but still stronger then most of the tasty cakes i have eaten in Holland (its kind of strange, i have tested 5 different places but none of them impressed me at ALL... so makes me wonder how big rip-offs most of these cakes with 10 euros price tag are). Old times, 6-7 + years ago i remember good cakes.. but now... its just about selling some crap to tourists i think.
But yes.. in here its all to expensive as you can imagine the real price tag for your cake would have been over 100 dollars and if you compare income it would be for us like 3-4 hundred dollars PER person :D
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No wonder most people here uses harmful chemicals (amphetamines, heroin, GHB, Solvents, glue, paint...arrh) or/and drinks alcohol in large amounts as there is no REAL drug education and these harmful, addictive drugs are SO much cheaper then the ones that can, and often ARE useful. Besides being pretty safe same time.
I guess "War on Drugs" has done hes job here as all the substances that make you realize how you get fked every day - are really hard to find and expensive for most people but all the addictive crap is easily reachable ...
21 June 2010 03:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Space cakes feedback was great from everyone.
Well, the taste is one that needs to be worked on but the outcome was more then good, more then 12h of joy for some of us.
It was really energetic and great overall well being experience. Lot of great laughs over different philosophical and life related ideas, many things was more clear. We looked many great movies, eat all the food from home and just bonded all day.
No visuals or anything like that for me & my gf but this is not for what we going for anyway with cakes :)
actually the other 2 people who was first timers, they report back that they had/have crazy fun and its best of the best this plant related experience for them.
So - eating IS better(besides healthier) then smoking for many :)
Well, the taste is one that needs to be worked on but the outcome was more then good, more then 12h of joy for some of us.
It was really energetic and great overall well being experience. Lot of great laughs over different philosophical and life related ideas, many things was more clear. We looked many great movies, eat all the food from home and just bonded all day.
No visuals or anything like that for me & my gf but this is not for what we going for anyway with cakes :)
actually the other 2 people who was first timers, they report back that they had/have crazy fun and its best of the best this plant related experience for them.
So - eating IS better(besides healthier) then smoking for many :)
21 June 2010 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"UK may try to stop Iceland joining EU over bank collapse refund http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jun/17/uk-threat-block-iceland-eu"
Well... lets hope these 2 news are not connected any way.
Well... lets hope these 2 news are not connected any way.
21 June 2010 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Stanford Open Office Hours: Bill Gates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq86Ti46IB0
Most important is to get population growth down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq86Ti46IB0
Most important is to get population growth down
20 June 2010 20:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.theonion.com/video/scientists-successfully-teach-gorilla-it-will-die,17165/ .. hard to mis the background message, love the onion :)
20 June 2010 17:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
If one buys right things in Estonia (main ingredient is 20 euros per gram, really expensive and hard to find good one) then one can make himself... i have my own recipe ;)
2 of my friends who eat yesterday - according to them its still working :)
Will be back tomorrow to combine 5 different reports :)
2 of my friends who eat yesterday - according to them its still working :)
Will be back tomorrow to combine 5 different reports :)
19 June 2010 14:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
I will give my report tomorrow :D
18 June 2010 20:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
What the space cake high is like
If you’ve been high by smoking weed or hash, this is very similar, but still noticeably different. The effect usually takes around an hour before you are sure it’s hitting you, and usually about another hour before you are at the peak stage. The high will last around 5 hours total before you can’t really feel much of it anymore, so it’s very important to plan this trip well rather than just eating one impulsively. The peak itself will last for 3 to 4 hours, so you’ve got quite a span of time to deal with.
When you smoke weed or hash the high tends to come on in only a few minutes, and then you only really feel it in your brain, although it does slow down physical functioning and reflexes a bit as well. With spaces cakes the high is still felt in the mind, but also throughout the body in a way that the vast majority of people find to be very pleasant. You could run fast if you wanted to, but you won’t want to. Many people will feel at one with whatever comfortable sofa or chair they happen to be sprawled in when it kicks in, but walking around is also easy and very pleasurable.
If you’ve never been high from smoking, it’s a bit hard to describe, but here are some things most people can expect:
* A general sense of wellbeing and relaxation
* Music will sound much better than it ever has before
* Good food will taste amazing, leading you to want more of it (this is commonly known as “the munchies” and it really doesn’t make you hungry as much as it makes food more desirable because it’s never tasted this good before)
* You’ll have conversations with friends about aspects of subjects you’ve never really thought about before (and that probably won’t make sense again later)
* You’ll struggle to keep time in perspective. For example, if you go walking from one place to another, it will seem like the trip is taking an eternity, and then when you finally arrive you’ll barely remember this, so it will feel like you arrived almost instantly (This is even more fun than it sounds).
* You’ll be in the middle of a speech on a very thoughtful subject, and your mind will go blank to the point you’ll need to ask your friends to remind you what you were talking about, and then you’ll all laugh (every time).
If you’ve been high by smoking weed or hash, this is very similar, but still noticeably different. The effect usually takes around an hour before you are sure it’s hitting you, and usually about another hour before you are at the peak stage. The high will last around 5 hours total before you can’t really feel much of it anymore, so it’s very important to plan this trip well rather than just eating one impulsively. The peak itself will last for 3 to 4 hours, so you’ve got quite a span of time to deal with.
When you smoke weed or hash the high tends to come on in only a few minutes, and then you only really feel it in your brain, although it does slow down physical functioning and reflexes a bit as well. With spaces cakes the high is still felt in the mind, but also throughout the body in a way that the vast majority of people find to be very pleasant. You could run fast if you wanted to, but you won’t want to. Many people will feel at one with whatever comfortable sofa or chair they happen to be sprawled in when it kicks in, but walking around is also easy and very pleasurable.
If you’ve never been high from smoking, it’s a bit hard to describe, but here are some things most people can expect:
* A general sense of wellbeing and relaxation
* Music will sound much better than it ever has before
* Good food will taste amazing, leading you to want more of it (this is commonly known as “the munchies” and it really doesn’t make you hungry as much as it makes food more desirable because it’s never tasted this good before)
* You’ll have conversations with friends about aspects of subjects you’ve never really thought about before (and that probably won’t make sense again later)
* You’ll struggle to keep time in perspective. For example, if you go walking from one place to another, it will seem like the trip is taking an eternity, and then when you finally arrive you’ll barely remember this, so it will feel like you arrived almost instantly (This is even more fun than it sounds).
* You’ll be in the middle of a speech on a very thoughtful subject, and your mind will go blank to the point you’ll need to ask your friends to remind you what you were talking about, and then you’ll all laugh (every time).
18 June 2010 20:28
Margus Meigo commented on Lauri Leino's link.
See oli päris hea jep :)
18 June 2010 17:44
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's post.
Lol.. just noticed ower long time that the site http://www.infowars.com/israel-warns-lebanese-iranian-activists-against-sending-ships-to-gaza/ who as on hes management many Zionists ... well the comments for this kind of page are pretty cool. I guess they even do not bother to censor it all as they was before.
anyway... take a look at comments and go add your ideas there ;)
anyway... take a look at comments and go add your ideas there ;)
18 June 2010 12:59
Margus Meigo commented on Ben Chavez's note.
Well, the fact is it fiction or not is less important then having enough open mind to consider the possibility that it might be true
17 June 2010 00:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.theonion.com/video/dea-official-announces-successful-drug-bust-on-son,17224/ - this is even funnier & a way so true :P
&
http://www.theonion.com/video/congress-struggles-to-come-up-with-cool-name-for-a,14249/
&
http://www.theonion.com/video/congress-struggles-to-come-up-with-cool-name-for-a,14249/
16 June 2010 22:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Here is some other links one might be interested:
http://www.psychonautdocs.com/ - lot of nice docs, videos, links... one of my top picks.
Ayahuasca and Creativity - Benny Shanon
http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v10n3/10318sha.html
http://psychedelic-information-theory.com/
Psychedelic Information Theory: Shamanism in the Age of Reason is an examination of the nonlinear dynamics of hallucination and altered states of consciousness. By deconstructing the systems of human perception and memory Psychedelic Information Theory quantifies the limits of psychedelic perception and describes the methods by which psychedelics alter consciousness, create new information, and affect human culture. By presenting these methods in physical terms Psychedelic Information Theory offers a rational and objective model for shamanic transformation and psychedelic therapy in modern clinical practice. Written by James L. Kent.
Download eBook: Release May 2010
The Case Against DMT Elves
James Kent attempts to tie a knot in the meme of autonomous elves and other DMT entities.
http://www.tripzine.com/listing.php?id=dmt_pickover
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http://www.psychonautdocs.com/ - lot of nice docs, videos, links... one of my top picks.
Ayahuasca and Creativity - Benny Shanon
http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v10n3/10318sha.html
http://psychedelic-information-theory.com/
Psychedelic Information Theory: Shamanism in the Age of Reason is an examination of the nonlinear dynamics of hallucination and altered states of consciousness. By deconstructing the systems of human perception and memory Psychedelic Information Theory quantifies the limits of psychedelic perception and describes the methods by which psychedelics alter consciousness, create new information, and affect human culture. By presenting these methods in physical terms Psychedelic Information Theory offers a rational and objective model for shamanic transformation and psychedelic therapy in modern clinical practice. Written by James L. Kent.
Download eBook: Release May 2010
The Case Against DMT Elves
James Kent attempts to tie a knot in the meme of autonomous elves and other DMT entities.
http://www.tripzine.com/listing.php?id=dmt_pickover
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16 June 2010 22:02
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Geiger-Howiler's photo.
You would do what then @ William?
16 June 2010 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Awww :)) I take it you like to book? ...i was starting to look up PDF but decided to get paper original instead, soon.
But yeah... i guess most parts these posts i make have no point as people who are interested about world from this corner know about these things and people who like to live their heads under the sand or have totally other interests that do not involve understanding `reality`, nature, consciousness, psychology, psychedelics.. etc - they will not care for these posts anyway and will not start to read ever, newer mater how revolutionary one book/film/study/post is.
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I think couple of hundred years more evolving then hopefully general public will start to care (more)about understanding these subjects. Optimist as i am:P
I just bought Jim DeKorne "Psychedelic Shamanism: The Cultivation, Preparation and Shamanic Use of Psychotropic Plants" -its a bit dated at times but nice and fun read in most parts.
Will get my order together soon and make soon serious purchase from amazon :)
But yeah... i guess most parts these posts i make have no point as people who are interested about world from this corner know about these things and people who like to live their heads under the sand or have totally other interests that do not involve understanding `reality`, nature, consciousness, psychology, psychedelics.. etc - they will not care for these posts anyway and will not start to read ever, newer mater how revolutionary one book/film/study/post is.
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I think couple of hundred years more evolving then hopefully general public will start to care (more)about understanding these subjects. Optimist as i am:P
I just bought Jim DeKorne "Psychedelic Shamanism: The Cultivation, Preparation and Shamanic Use of Psychotropic Plants" -its a bit dated at times but nice and fun read in most parts.
Will get my order together soon and make soon serious purchase from amazon :)
16 June 2010 21:24
Margus Meigo commented on Ben Chavez's note.
Great post! (originally from http://www.physicstheory.net/ on 2001 i think?)
Also kind of a little reminded me a movie i recently looked: K-Pax (also year 2001...), have you seen it?
To be honest, if i look back then many interesting things have happened in 2001, great year imho.
Thanks for the post & tag :)
Also kind of a little reminded me a movie i recently looked: K-Pax (also year 2001...), have you seen it?
To be honest, if i look back then many interesting things have happened in 2001, great year imho.
Thanks for the post & tag :)
16 June 2010 19:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7deORa4DQJU Benny Shanon PhD about Moses ( http://thespiritmolecule.com )
TSM-DMT:
THE SPIRIT MOLECULE weaves an account of Dr. Rick Strassman's groundbreaking DMT research through a multifaceted approach to this intriguing hallucinogen found in the human brain and hundreds of plants, including the sacred Amazonian brew, ayahuasca. Utilizing interviews with a variety of experts to explain their thoughts and experiences with DMT, and ayahuasca, within their respective fields, and discussions with Strassman’s research volunteers, brings to life the awesome effects of this compound, and introduces us to far-reaching theories regarding its role in human consciousness.
http://www.youtube.com/user/dmttsm
www.rickstrassman.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayahuasca
& People, please do not forget, if you are not educated enough to understand this and think it is some hippiDippy-tree-hugging-voodo-witchcraft-nonsense or something boring that you have nothing to do with .. then arrh... can you pull your head out from your arse please?
TSM-DMT:
THE SPIRIT MOLECULE weaves an account of Dr. Rick Strassman's groundbreaking DMT research through a multifaceted approach to this intriguing hallucinogen found in the human brain and hundreds of plants, including the sacred Amazonian brew, ayahuasca. Utilizing interviews with a variety of experts to explain their thoughts and experiences with DMT, and ayahuasca, within their respective fields, and discussions with Strassman’s research volunteers, brings to life the awesome effects of this compound, and introduces us to far-reaching theories regarding its role in human consciousness.
http://www.youtube.com/user/dmttsm
www.rickstrassman.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayahuasca
& People, please do not forget, if you are not educated enough to understand this and think it is some hippiDippy-tree-hugging-voodo-witchcraft-nonsense or something boring that you have nothing to do with .. then arrh... can you pull your head out from your arse please?
16 June 2010 19:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Benny Shanon's Hebrew University faculty page
http://pluto.huji.ac.il/~bshanon/ (awards etc)
Benny SHANON, distinguished members of INREES
http://www.inrees.com/en/membres.php?page=14
Shanon is fundamentally skeptic with respect to paranormality and does not believe in the parapsychological as such. Instead, he maintains that the phenomenology of mental is exceedingly rich and wondrous, and that it defies much of our common conceptualizations.
Professor of cognitive psychology and ex-chairman of the Department of Psychology of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem (Israel). After studying philosophy and linguistics in Israel, he completed his doctorate in experimental psychology at Stanford University in 1974. His areas of research include cognitive psychology, psycholinguistics, neuropsychology, the semantics and pragmatics of natural language and the philosophy of psychology. Nowadays, his work concerns primarily the phenomenology of human consciousness, dealing with both ordinary and non-ordinary states of mind. In particular, he has been investigating the special state of mind induced by psychoactive brew ayahuasca, conducting the most comprehensive investigation of its effects from a cognitive psychological perspective. This research is based both on extensive firsthand experiences with ayahuasca and on the interviewing of a large number of individuals from different locales and socio-cultural contexts. Monographs he has published are "The Representational and the Presentational" (Harvester-Wheatsheaf, 1993), a critique of the representational-computational paradigm in contemporary cognitive science, and "The Antipodes of the Mind" (Oxford University Press, 2002), which summarizes his work with ayahuasca. The latter received the Polonsky prize for originality and creativity in 2006. Currently, he is working on book devoted to a new psychological theory of human consciousness.
Benny Shanon is known for his controversial theory that the patriarch Moses was under the influence of hallucinogens when he received the law. Specifically, he believes that a psychedelic cocktail similar to ayahuasca may explain Moses's vision of the burning bush: "In advanced forms of ayahuasca inebriation, the seeing of light is accompanied by profound religious and spiritual feelings."
http://pluto.huji.ac.il/~bshanon/ (awards etc)
Benny SHANON, distinguished members of INREES
http://www.inrees.com/en/membres.php?page=14
Shanon is fundamentally skeptic with respect to paranormality and does not believe in the parapsychological as such. Instead, he maintains that the phenomenology of mental is exceedingly rich and wondrous, and that it defies much of our common conceptualizations.
Professor of cognitive psychology and ex-chairman of the Department of Psychology of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem (Israel). After studying philosophy and linguistics in Israel, he completed his doctorate in experimental psychology at Stanford University in 1974. His areas of research include cognitive psychology, psycholinguistics, neuropsychology, the semantics and pragmatics of natural language and the philosophy of psychology. Nowadays, his work concerns primarily the phenomenology of human consciousness, dealing with both ordinary and non-ordinary states of mind. In particular, he has been investigating the special state of mind induced by psychoactive brew ayahuasca, conducting the most comprehensive investigation of its effects from a cognitive psychological perspective. This research is based both on extensive firsthand experiences with ayahuasca and on the interviewing of a large number of individuals from different locales and socio-cultural contexts. Monographs he has published are "The Representational and the Presentational" (Harvester-Wheatsheaf, 1993), a critique of the representational-computational paradigm in contemporary cognitive science, and "The Antipodes of the Mind" (Oxford University Press, 2002), which summarizes his work with ayahuasca. The latter received the Polonsky prize for originality and creativity in 2006. Currently, he is working on book devoted to a new psychological theory of human consciousness.
Benny Shanon is known for his controversial theory that the patriarch Moses was under the influence of hallucinogens when he received the law. Specifically, he believes that a psychedelic cocktail similar to ayahuasca may explain Moses's vision of the burning bush: "In advanced forms of ayahuasca inebriation, the seeing of light is accompanied by profound religious and spiritual feelings."
16 June 2010 19:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Many readers of this journal will be especially interested in the two chapters on consciousness. “Consciousness I” sketches this task:
The great potential contribution of the study of non-ordinary states of consciousness to the scientific understanding of the mind lies precisely in their rendering the parameters of the cognitive system apparent and in their revealing the various possible values that these parameters may take. (page 196)
Shanon identifies 11 structural parameters of consciousness and some of the unusual values they can take: (pages 198 – 98)
-->Agenthood — experiencing thoughts as not being one’s own
-->Personal identity — personal identification with whatever one is looking at, a sense of unity with the other
-->Unity — being oneself at the same time being someone or something else
-->Boundaries — erasing the boundary between inner and outer reality
-->Individuation — self transcendence but with consciousness still maintained
-->Calibration—change in perceptions of one’s size, weight, posture, etc.
-->Locus of consciousness —consciousness located outside one’s physical body
-->Time—variations in time, including its speed or even feelings of eternity
-->Self-consciousness —a “residue” of the normal self after other facets of consciousness are completely altered
-->Intentionality — no object to which thought is being directed and no content entertained by the mind, often leading to a sense of “the Void” or “pure consciousness.”
-->Connectedness, Knowledge, and the Conferral of Reality — a noetic feeling that one is privy to true knowledge.
Just as William James’s and Ralph Hood’s descriptors of mystical experience advanced studies of those states, Shanon’s parameters offer parallel advances for studying other non-ordinary states. Impressively, this typology is just one of Antipodes’ descriptive categorizations of non-ordinary states. Antipodes illustrates a paradigmatic blueprint that future consciousness researchers might follow whatever their favorite mindbody psychotechnologies. This book is as much about methods for future consciousness research as it is about its ayahuasca-specific findings. I can well imagine a graduate seminar using Antipodes first as a text then as a model for students to follow in their own cognitive-consciousness research projects.
In “Consciousness II,” his second chapter on this topic, Shanon considers independent issues that relate to consciousness: paranormal experiences, spiritual and mystical experiences, sanity and madness, and awareness and reality judgments. These lead him to wonder about the comprehensiveness of our usual Western scientific approach.
I hope scholars of cognitive studies will follow Shanon’s pioneering work and take the opportunity for expanding their specialties into the underdeveloped state-of-consciousness lands across the cognitive-consciousness bridge. As Shanon challenges in Antipodes’ last sentence: “Yet, from a cognitive-psychological point the moral of the story is clear: The Antipodes of the mind reveal a geography that is much more amazing, much more wondrous than most, if not all, contemporary cognitive scientists seem to surmise.” (page 402)
Similarly, I hope anthropologists of consciousness will increase their attention to the cognitive aspects of their investigations. Shanon’s Antipodes of the Mind enriches the anthropology of consciousness by reminding anthropologists to ask questions from cognitive studies: How does cognition vary from state to state? How do perception, learning, intelligence, and development vary from state to state? What thinking processes lie across the cognitive-consciousness bridge in the far — and not so far — antipodes of the mind?
Originally Published In : Anthropology of Consciousness
http://www.erowid.org/library/review/review.php?p=259
The great potential contribution of the study of non-ordinary states of consciousness to the scientific understanding of the mind lies precisely in their rendering the parameters of the cognitive system apparent and in their revealing the various possible values that these parameters may take. (page 196)
Shanon identifies 11 structural parameters of consciousness and some of the unusual values they can take: (pages 198 – 98)
-->Agenthood — experiencing thoughts as not being one’s own
-->Personal identity — personal identification with whatever one is looking at, a sense of unity with the other
-->Unity — being oneself at the same time being someone or something else
-->Boundaries — erasing the boundary between inner and outer reality
-->Individuation — self transcendence but with consciousness still maintained
-->Calibration—change in perceptions of one’s size, weight, posture, etc.
-->Locus of consciousness —consciousness located outside one’s physical body
-->Time—variations in time, including its speed or even feelings of eternity
-->Self-consciousness —a “residue” of the normal self after other facets of consciousness are completely altered
-->Intentionality — no object to which thought is being directed and no content entertained by the mind, often leading to a sense of “the Void” or “pure consciousness.”
-->Connectedness, Knowledge, and the Conferral of Reality — a noetic feeling that one is privy to true knowledge.
Just as William James’s and Ralph Hood’s descriptors of mystical experience advanced studies of those states, Shanon’s parameters offer parallel advances for studying other non-ordinary states. Impressively, this typology is just one of Antipodes’ descriptive categorizations of non-ordinary states. Antipodes illustrates a paradigmatic blueprint that future consciousness researchers might follow whatever their favorite mindbody psychotechnologies. This book is as much about methods for future consciousness research as it is about its ayahuasca-specific findings. I can well imagine a graduate seminar using Antipodes first as a text then as a model for students to follow in their own cognitive-consciousness research projects.
In “Consciousness II,” his second chapter on this topic, Shanon considers independent issues that relate to consciousness: paranormal experiences, spiritual and mystical experiences, sanity and madness, and awareness and reality judgments. These lead him to wonder about the comprehensiveness of our usual Western scientific approach.
I hope scholars of cognitive studies will follow Shanon’s pioneering work and take the opportunity for expanding their specialties into the underdeveloped state-of-consciousness lands across the cognitive-consciousness bridge. As Shanon challenges in Antipodes’ last sentence: “Yet, from a cognitive-psychological point the moral of the story is clear: The Antipodes of the mind reveal a geography that is much more amazing, much more wondrous than most, if not all, contemporary cognitive scientists seem to surmise.” (page 402)
Similarly, I hope anthropologists of consciousness will increase their attention to the cognitive aspects of their investigations. Shanon’s Antipodes of the Mind enriches the anthropology of consciousness by reminding anthropologists to ask questions from cognitive studies: How does cognition vary from state to state? How do perception, learning, intelligence, and development vary from state to state? What thinking processes lie across the cognitive-consciousness bridge in the far — and not so far — antipodes of the mind?
Originally Published In : Anthropology of Consciousness
http://www.erowid.org/library/review/review.php?p=259
16 June 2010 19:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Thomas B. Roberts:
Someone casually glancing at Antipodes’ subtitle — Charting the Phenomenology of the Ayahuasca Experience — might mistakenly suppose this is yet another collection of the I-drank-ayahuasca-and-saw-jaguars ilk. Few things could be further from the truth. This is the first professional study of ayahuasca from the perspective of cognitive psychology, and so far as I know, it is the most academically sophisticated example of how the cognitive sciences might approach other diverse mindbody states too. In data collection, detailed interpretation, and theoretical grounding, Antipodes sets a standard that future cognitive psychologists will strive to live up to.
As Shanon points out, his intent is to “present the case for the cognitive-psychological study of Ayahuasca,” (page 13) and at the same time “…the visions and other non-ordinary experiential phenomena that Ayahuasca induces present a new, uncharted natural cognitive domain. Since the number of natural domains is very small, this makes the Ayahuasca experience of paramount interest for the student of the mind.” (pages 34 – 35) Thus, he is constructing a two-way bridge between cognitive studies and consciousness research. Each, he claims, can inform the other for their mutual growth.
Does Shanon hold the professional credentials to design this intellectual architecture? A Stanford Ph.D. and professor of psychology at Hebrew University in Jerusalem since 1976, Shanon has held visiting professorships in France, England, the US, Poland, Italy, Brazil, and the Netherlands. He served as an associate editor of New Ideas in Psychology, and Pragmatics and Cognition. He has reviewed articles for over two dozen journals; those most immediately germane to Antipodes are Consciousness and Cognition and the Journal of Consciousness Studies. Along the way he has written over 100 professional articles and presented papers at half again as many meetings.
Recently there as been a swarm of books about people’s experiences with ayahuasca, most of them based on a few sessions. Many are fun to read in the nature of a tourist’s impressionistic travelogue, but most lack the intellectual depth that comes with repeated experience and carefully considered analysis.
One of Antipodes’ strong points is the number of ayahuasca experiences in Shanon’s sample. Over a period of 10 years he “actively participated” in more than 130 sessions, including some in the Amazonian regions of Brazil, Peru, Ecuador, and Columbia as well as in some private settings outside South America. Added to this, in both structured and unstructured interviews, Shanon questioned 178 people: 16 indigenous or of mixed race, 106 residents of urban South America, and 56 people residing outside of South America, totaling approximately 2,500 sessions. This is likely to be the largest number of ayahuasca-experiences ever studied scientifically and may even top the total of all previous scientific reports together.
In the first 3 chapters, Shanon describes the general background of this study, its theoretical foundations, and methodology. Chapters 4 – 17 present his phenomenological observations and typologies. And in 5 concluding chapters on theoretical issues, he reflects on some implications of consciousness studies for cognitive studies and for broader philosophical issues. Detailing his data, informants, main findings, and codification schemes, the appendix, “Quantitative Data,” sets a high empirical standard for subsequent consciousness researchers to meet.
Given Shanon’s goals, his professional qualifications, and the breadth of his data, what does he foresee from hybridizing cognitive studies (psychology in this case) with consciousness studies (ayahuasca-induced in this case)? Organized descriptive typologies are one goal. After dividing visualizations into eyes-opened vs. eyes-closed, he proposes a systematic typology of their structural types, noting 7 major categories with several subcategories: Visualizations without Semantic Content, Primitive Figurative Elements, Images, Scenes, Virtual Reality, Visions of Light, and Visual Style (pages 86 – 98).
Someone casually glancing at Antipodes’ subtitle — Charting the Phenomenology of the Ayahuasca Experience — might mistakenly suppose this is yet another collection of the I-drank-ayahuasca-and-saw-jaguars ilk. Few things could be further from the truth. This is the first professional study of ayahuasca from the perspective of cognitive psychology, and so far as I know, it is the most academically sophisticated example of how the cognitive sciences might approach other diverse mindbody states too. In data collection, detailed interpretation, and theoretical grounding, Antipodes sets a standard that future cognitive psychologists will strive to live up to.
As Shanon points out, his intent is to “present the case for the cognitive-psychological study of Ayahuasca,” (page 13) and at the same time “…the visions and other non-ordinary experiential phenomena that Ayahuasca induces present a new, uncharted natural cognitive domain. Since the number of natural domains is very small, this makes the Ayahuasca experience of paramount interest for the student of the mind.” (pages 34 – 35) Thus, he is constructing a two-way bridge between cognitive studies and consciousness research. Each, he claims, can inform the other for their mutual growth.
Does Shanon hold the professional credentials to design this intellectual architecture? A Stanford Ph.D. and professor of psychology at Hebrew University in Jerusalem since 1976, Shanon has held visiting professorships in France, England, the US, Poland, Italy, Brazil, and the Netherlands. He served as an associate editor of New Ideas in Psychology, and Pragmatics and Cognition. He has reviewed articles for over two dozen journals; those most immediately germane to Antipodes are Consciousness and Cognition and the Journal of Consciousness Studies. Along the way he has written over 100 professional articles and presented papers at half again as many meetings.
Recently there as been a swarm of books about people’s experiences with ayahuasca, most of them based on a few sessions. Many are fun to read in the nature of a tourist’s impressionistic travelogue, but most lack the intellectual depth that comes with repeated experience and carefully considered analysis.
One of Antipodes’ strong points is the number of ayahuasca experiences in Shanon’s sample. Over a period of 10 years he “actively participated” in more than 130 sessions, including some in the Amazonian regions of Brazil, Peru, Ecuador, and Columbia as well as in some private settings outside South America. Added to this, in both structured and unstructured interviews, Shanon questioned 178 people: 16 indigenous or of mixed race, 106 residents of urban South America, and 56 people residing outside of South America, totaling approximately 2,500 sessions. This is likely to be the largest number of ayahuasca-experiences ever studied scientifically and may even top the total of all previous scientific reports together.
In the first 3 chapters, Shanon describes the general background of this study, its theoretical foundations, and methodology. Chapters 4 – 17 present his phenomenological observations and typologies. And in 5 concluding chapters on theoretical issues, he reflects on some implications of consciousness studies for cognitive studies and for broader philosophical issues. Detailing his data, informants, main findings, and codification schemes, the appendix, “Quantitative Data,” sets a high empirical standard for subsequent consciousness researchers to meet.
Given Shanon’s goals, his professional qualifications, and the breadth of his data, what does he foresee from hybridizing cognitive studies (psychology in this case) with consciousness studies (ayahuasca-induced in this case)? Organized descriptive typologies are one goal. After dividing visualizations into eyes-opened vs. eyes-closed, he proposes a systematic typology of their structural types, noting 7 major categories with several subcategories: Visualizations without Semantic Content, Primitive Figurative Elements, Images, Scenes, Virtual Reality, Visions of Light, and Visual Style (pages 86 – 98).
16 June 2010 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Benny Shanon:
Benny Shanon's The Antipodes of the Mind: Charting the Phenomenology of the Ayahuasca Experience is one of the most compelling books on altered states I've read, up there with James's Varieties of Religious Experience, Huxley's Doors of Perception (to which Shanon's title alludes) and PIHKAL and TIHKAL by Ann and Alexander Shulgin. Unlike, say, the psychedelic performance artist Terence McKenna (whose writings I enjoy), Shanon's authorial persona is earnest, serious, straightforward, absolutely trustworthy. He is a true scientist, dedicated to precise reporting and careful analysis rather than to entertainment.
Not that his book is dull. Far from it. Antipodes is suffused with a sense of genuine adventure, of a kind that has virtually vanished from modern science. Plunging into the depths of his own ayahuasca-intoxicated mind, Shanon resembles one of the great Victorian explorers trekking into uncharted wilds, maintaining his equilibrium and wits even in the face of the most fantastical sights. Like Darwin on the voyage of the Beagle, Shanon is concerned primarily with collecting and categorizing data rather than theorizing. At the end of his book, however, he ponders his and others' experiences and draws some tentative conclusions. Ayahuasca, he asserts, can be both truth-revealing and "the worst of liars." Shanon remains skeptical of the occult claims often made for the drug that it puts us in touch with spirits, makes us clairvoyant, lets us leave our bodies and travel astrally. He suggests that ayahuasca visions are products of the imagination rather than glimpses of a supernatural realm existing in parallel to our own. This proposal will sound reductionistic to some, but it is actually quite provocative, and raises many questions requiring further consideration. Why does the imagination, when stimulated by ayahuasca, yield visions so much stranger and more powerful than those we encounter in, say, ordinary dreams? Why do ayahuasca-drinkers from widely disparate cultures so often hallucinate similar phenomena, such as jaguars and snakes, or palaces and royalty? Why are the visions of even an atheist like Shanon so often laden with religious significance?
Antipodes will no doubt be eagerly seized upon by the psychedelic intelligentsia. But it deserves to be read by anyone interested in religion, mysticism, and consciousness--and who is not? It should be required reading for psychologists, psychiatrists, and neuroscientists, because it shows how absurdly simplistic are the biochemical, Darwinian, and genetic models now dominating mind-science. Inner space, Shanon reminds us, truly is the last great frontier of science, and its reaches are vast and wild and strange.
Originally Published In : MAPS Bulletin
http://www.erowid.org/library/review/review.php?p=161
Benny Shanon's The Antipodes of the Mind: Charting the Phenomenology of the Ayahuasca Experience is one of the most compelling books on altered states I've read, up there with James's Varieties of Religious Experience, Huxley's Doors of Perception (to which Shanon's title alludes) and PIHKAL and TIHKAL by Ann and Alexander Shulgin. Unlike, say, the psychedelic performance artist Terence McKenna (whose writings I enjoy), Shanon's authorial persona is earnest, serious, straightforward, absolutely trustworthy. He is a true scientist, dedicated to precise reporting and careful analysis rather than to entertainment.
Not that his book is dull. Far from it. Antipodes is suffused with a sense of genuine adventure, of a kind that has virtually vanished from modern science. Plunging into the depths of his own ayahuasca-intoxicated mind, Shanon resembles one of the great Victorian explorers trekking into uncharted wilds, maintaining his equilibrium and wits even in the face of the most fantastical sights. Like Darwin on the voyage of the Beagle, Shanon is concerned primarily with collecting and categorizing data rather than theorizing. At the end of his book, however, he ponders his and others' experiences and draws some tentative conclusions. Ayahuasca, he asserts, can be both truth-revealing and "the worst of liars." Shanon remains skeptical of the occult claims often made for the drug that it puts us in touch with spirits, makes us clairvoyant, lets us leave our bodies and travel astrally. He suggests that ayahuasca visions are products of the imagination rather than glimpses of a supernatural realm existing in parallel to our own. This proposal will sound reductionistic to some, but it is actually quite provocative, and raises many questions requiring further consideration. Why does the imagination, when stimulated by ayahuasca, yield visions so much stranger and more powerful than those we encounter in, say, ordinary dreams? Why do ayahuasca-drinkers from widely disparate cultures so often hallucinate similar phenomena, such as jaguars and snakes, or palaces and royalty? Why are the visions of even an atheist like Shanon so often laden with religious significance?
Antipodes will no doubt be eagerly seized upon by the psychedelic intelligentsia. But it deserves to be read by anyone interested in religion, mysticism, and consciousness--and who is not? It should be required reading for psychologists, psychiatrists, and neuroscientists, because it shows how absurdly simplistic are the biochemical, Darwinian, and genetic models now dominating mind-science. Inner space, Shanon reminds us, truly is the last great frontier of science, and its reaches are vast and wild and strange.
Originally Published In : MAPS Bulletin
http://www.erowid.org/library/review/review.php?p=161
16 June 2010 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on Joachim Kistenich's post.
i mean IN the Centre for the people :P
16 June 2010 13:49
Margus Meigo commented on Kaisa Holsting's post.
Cool, sa ka siin :))
15 June 2010 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
I mean.. these days, in this world in wider spectrium.
But flat...Not good enough flat jet.. but i always have room for You darling ;)
But flat...Not good enough flat jet.. but i always have room for You darling ;)
15 June 2010 20:35
Margus Meigo commented on Joachim Kistenich's post.
Nope, i was the one from Estonia but the time was same when the Canadian thing was going on, i remeber sending the SA people to canada .
I was with EVS program & HIV prevention program, i was alone & was working for the Centre :)
I was with EVS program & HIV prevention program, i was alone & was working for the Centre :)
15 June 2010 11:56
Margus Meigo commented on Joachim Kistenich's post.
i think you was one of the german guys in South Africa & Chantel was our mentor, no ?
15 June 2010 10:40
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
Haha, it needs to be something between alien adoption and nuclear war to get me excited in this world on these days :P
15 June 2010 09:42
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
Hanibaal Hanna, if you are so childish and ignorant that you do even not understand the basics how USA has been sponsoring basically all "terrorist" countrys so they would have the weapons, how USA has been suporting openly or secretly BOUGHT sides so that conflict WOULD be possible, then i will even not have point to have conversation whit you.
One of the biggest examples is WW2 times when use freezed first other EU country assets so Hitler would not get it (with this holding these EU country's by balls) then same time USA financed Nazi Germany AND communist Russia ...
SAME thing is happening up to THIS day. even in Iran where USA has trying SO hard to implement poppet government and it has been working at same periods of time.. but not as planned (imho).
I cant believe people are so childish and still do not understand the fiction that most of these crisis are made by bigger boys with reasons, most of the terror groups are fiction / most of the wars are financed by this people who go to "save them". This documentation is all public, open. Even in google.
take look a bit taliban & cia when usa needed them to fight against soviet...
and "FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, who was fired from the CIA for disclosing sensitive information, claims that the U.S. was on intimate terms with the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, using them to further U.S. goals in Central Asia."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Whistleblowers_Coalition
WikiLeaks.com ...
well its just a start, if one really would care one would at least go to these pages... click on links.... read.. .research... investigate & see that things are fked up
this is no conspiracy "theory" . as there is 10 thousand of them anyway.
to be honest actually USA is only country in world that NO ONE would REALLY attack as USA millitary power is superior... but it only can survive if it has wars where to use it... (for starters)if weapon manufactures (who make more money then oil companies in usa) want to keep their business alive.. what should they do?
One of the biggest examples is WW2 times when use freezed first other EU country assets so Hitler would not get it (with this holding these EU country's by balls) then same time USA financed Nazi Germany AND communist Russia ...
SAME thing is happening up to THIS day. even in Iran where USA has trying SO hard to implement poppet government and it has been working at same periods of time.. but not as planned (imho).
I cant believe people are so childish and still do not understand the fiction that most of these crisis are made by bigger boys with reasons, most of the terror groups are fiction / most of the wars are financed by this people who go to "save them". This documentation is all public, open. Even in google.
take look a bit taliban & cia when usa needed them to fight against soviet...
and "FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, who was fired from the CIA for disclosing sensitive information, claims that the U.S. was on intimate terms with the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, using them to further U.S. goals in Central Asia."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Whistleblowers_Coalition
WikiLeaks.com ...
well its just a start, if one really would care one would at least go to these pages... click on links.... read.. .research... investigate & see that things are fked up
this is no conspiracy "theory" . as there is 10 thousand of them anyway.
to be honest actually USA is only country in world that NO ONE would REALLY attack as USA millitary power is superior... but it only can survive if it has wars where to use it... (for starters)if weapon manufactures (who make more money then oil companies in usa) want to keep their business alive.. what should they do?
15 June 2010 02:17
Margus Meigo commented on Katerina Sibiryova's photo.
that seems nice place to have morning cofe :)
15 June 2010 01:36
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
okey, what about me! :P
me wanna know!:)
me wanna know!:)
15 June 2010 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on Sounds of Aliens's album.
Järgmine kord ma arvan et võiks ültse psy yritusele ka minematta jätta, las keegi ostab pileti 75 eeguga, võtab linti ja siis saadab mp3 medena yle neti sõradele kellel raha pole. Palju odavam ju teistele ja suht sama muusika ju, mis seal ike vahet on. Muidu krdi DJ'd seal võtavad liigkasu oma kallite vinyyli keerutamis masinatega. Netis terveaeg kuulan tasuta ju muusikat!
Jubedad kapitalistid ma ytlen krt!
Jubedad kapitalistid ma ytlen krt!
10 June 2010 22:47
Margus Meigo commented on Seene Nõid's post.
bdw meil väike spirituaalne teraapiline sügav nature rännak plaanis ühe grupiga, if u think it may help.. let me know :)
10 June 2010 16:24
Margus Meigo commented on Seene Nõid's post.
Eks inimesed ole erinevad kuid ma arvan, et kõigil on vaja aga ka endaga olla ja tööst ja kiirest tempost eemal olla. Samas kui pidevalt tamp taga olnud ja siis vaba perjood tuleb ja saad aru, et kogu see rabelemine on tegelikult ju mõtetu olnud sest see püramiit on olematu kuhu pürgitakse... et mille jaoks rabeleda vabsjee, mida kõike muud oleks võinud teha ja näha...
Üldiselt suhteliselt stressi vabalt viimased paar aastat elanud ise kuna otsest tööd pole peaaegu ültse teinud, ainut vahest harva, et üüri & söögiga hakkama saada kuid mitte rohkem kui vaja. Nädalas mõned tunnid ehk päris tööd - kuid tunnistan, et peaks ike natuke rohkem tegema sest krediitkaart elab ikka veel seljas. Nii umbes päeva jagu nädalas oleks juba hea saavutus :P
Kuid yea.. vähemalt 90% ajast tegtelen asjadega millega ise tahan ja millal tahan ning seda kõike on nii palju, see kõik on nii huvitav ja lummab, et kuidagi ei jää aega masenduseks vms.
Varem kui alakoholi tihedamini tarbitud sai ja regulaarne töö oli.. siis ike oli neid masenduse hoogi kah rohkem.. praegused masenduse sarnased hood tulenevad pigem sellest,et ei mõista miks maailm normaalselt elada ei või, kuidas saab see uni niiii sygav neil olla. Suures osas ike suht karbis mõtlemisega barbaarne sivilisatsioon imho.
Üldiselt suhteliselt stressi vabalt viimased paar aastat elanud ise kuna otsest tööd pole peaaegu ültse teinud, ainut vahest harva, et üüri & söögiga hakkama saada kuid mitte rohkem kui vaja. Nädalas mõned tunnid ehk päris tööd - kuid tunnistan, et peaks ike natuke rohkem tegema sest krediitkaart elab ikka veel seljas. Nii umbes päeva jagu nädalas oleks juba hea saavutus :P
Kuid yea.. vähemalt 90% ajast tegtelen asjadega millega ise tahan ja millal tahan ning seda kõike on nii palju, see kõik on nii huvitav ja lummab, et kuidagi ei jää aega masenduseks vms.
Varem kui alakoholi tihedamini tarbitud sai ja regulaarne töö oli.. siis ike oli neid masenduse hoogi kah rohkem.. praegused masenduse sarnased hood tulenevad pigem sellest,et ei mõista miks maailm normaalselt elada ei või, kuidas saab see uni niiii sygav neil olla. Suures osas ike suht karbis mõtlemisega barbaarne sivilisatsioon imho.
10 June 2010 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on Seene Nõid's post.
krt oleks endal ka aega selles maailmas stressimiseks ja masetsemiseks.. kust inimesed kyll aja ja pysivuse võtavad selleks. Mis on su edu saladus ?
10 June 2010 13:09
Margus Meigo commented on Robotaanika Park's link.
Will be theer!
10 June 2010 13:05
Margus Meigo commented on Ghislain Sobarzo's link.
Rodolfo - as much i have read that body builders can also be vegetarians and they do not need to eat read meat etc to get there like Bill Pearl , Roy Hilligen etc
one guy made even page for himself: http://www.vegetarianbodybuilder.com/index2.html & he has great lik resourse & forum: http://www.vegetarianbodybuilder.ipbhost.com/
+ there is one page that is full of all kind of ad's and links... but they also have big forum: http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/phpBB2/
I gess u get better help from the dedicated forums :)
one guy made even page for himself: http://www.vegetarianbodybuilder.com/index2.html & he has great lik resourse & forum: http://www.vegetarianbodybuilder.ipbhost.com/
+ there is one page that is full of all kind of ad's and links... but they also have big forum: http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/phpBB2/
I gess u get better help from the dedicated forums :)
10 June 2010 13:01
Margus Meigo commented on Ghislain Sobarzo's link.
& when i tell people, that class 1 "narcoticum" magic mushrooms are globally much healthier for adult people then milk then they call my grazy :D
10 June 2010 01:10
Margus Meigo commented on Sounds of Aliens's album.
Kohe kui mul rikkamad ajad tulevad siis tellin ka yhe :)
9 June 2010 23:44
Margus Meigo commented on Sounds of Aliens's album.
Kohe kui mul rikkamad ajad tulevad siis tellin ka yhe :)
9 June 2010 23:44
Margus Meigo commented on Anton Shoom's album.
Many events would miss so much with out your deco :)
9 June 2010 16:23
Margus Meigo commented on Anton Shoom's album.
Many events would miss so much with out your deco :)
9 June 2010 16:23
Margus Meigo commented on Sounds of Aliens's album.
kuid yeah, üüratult kallis see särgi kohta ei ole sest ma venemaal käisin ja seal psy peol myydi mass toodangut, t särke mis maksid eesti rahas kuni 700 eeku. Utoopilised hinnad muidugi imho sest see oli isegi kallikm samade särkide eest kui amsterdamis turul kus samasi särke myydi 25-30+ euroga.
"turult saan poole odavamalt!" pole päris norm mentaliteet.
umbes nagu lähed restosse ja virised, et macdonalsis on söök palju odavam :D
Samal ajal eestis enamus inimesed ei nuta kui 300 eeku "millegi" eest maksavad mis mujal maailmas maksab 50-100 eeku...
"turult saan poole odavamalt!" pole päris norm mentaliteet.
umbes nagu lähed restosse ja virised, et macdonalsis on söök palju odavam :D
Samal ajal eestis enamus inimesed ei nuta kui 300 eeku "millegi" eest maksavad mis mujal maailmas maksab 50-100 eeku...
9 June 2010 16:04
Margus Meigo commented on Sounds of Aliens's album.
blacklight mõtlesin, lol
9 June 2010 15:13
Margus Meigo commented on Sounds of Aliens's album.
blacklight mõtlesin, lol
9 June 2010 15:13
Margus Meigo commented on Sounds of Aliens's album.
need bluelight ?
9 June 2010 14:59
Margus Meigo commented on Ghislain Sobarzo's link.
lets hope iran will not make mistake to declare war to USA as this is waht they are waiting... yes, hitler had no options... but iran has. well, not many.. but still.
as we all know what would happen if this things blows...
and what we will read from history books 40 years later? No question who was the good and who was the axis again..
as we all know what would happen if this things blows...
and what we will read from history books 40 years later? No question who was the good and who was the axis again..
9 June 2010 03:59
Margus Meigo commented on Ghislain Sobarzo's video.
this guy have some interesting videos on hes cannel in youtube with good translation
well.. at least peace by peace the ww2 lies start to come out.. interesting times... unless new war will not hit before.
i am kind of surprised usa is openy talking about eugenics in usa & WHO supports it openly... and if one googles gates nanotechnology ... well.. some chilling information :)
well.. at least peace by peace the ww2 lies start to come out.. interesting times... unless new war will not hit before.
i am kind of surprised usa is openy talking about eugenics in usa & WHO supports it openly... and if one googles gates nanotechnology ... well.. some chilling information :)
9 June 2010 03:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
ehehe... this dude gets right to the point also soon middle of video... and repeats it many many times in the end :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyseLQVpJEI
" We MUST reduce population, its ONLY option we have!!! ..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyseLQVpJEI
" We MUST reduce population, its ONLY option we have!!! ..."
8 June 2010 20:45
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Ju seal oli põhjus miks isa 'röövis' lapsed ja miks nad eriti rõõmsad ei olnud ema uuesti nähes.
Ning kui 95'ndal aastal ta 3me ja 8 aastane laps rööviti siis on nad praeguseks ju 18-19 ja 23-24 aastased ?? Mis "teismeliste laste"... mis krdi teismeline see 24 aastane nyyd on kelle hooldamisõiguse nimel peab tolle ise vangi saatma ?
15 aastat ei suutnud ylesse leida PÄRIS nimega last ?? Hmm.. ju ikka ei otsinud hästi sest to pidi ju koolis ka sama nimega olema liskas muudes kohtades...
Njeah, ega siis eestis olukord parem pole enamasti olnud, olgu ema kes iganes. Kui viimane just videole pole jäänud, et systis lapsele heroiini sisse ja peksis seejärel ahjuroobiga ketis olevat näljutatud last - ega siis suurt võimalust pole, et kohtus lapse kasvatmise õigused isale määraks kuigi viimasel kõik võimlaused võivad paremad olla ning ei hooli alimentidest.
Ning kui 95'ndal aastal ta 3me ja 8 aastane laps rööviti siis on nad praeguseks ju 18-19 ja 23-24 aastased ?? Mis "teismeliste laste"... mis krdi teismeline see 24 aastane nyyd on kelle hooldamisõiguse nimel peab tolle ise vangi saatma ?
15 aastat ei suutnud ylesse leida PÄRIS nimega last ?? Hmm.. ju ikka ei otsinud hästi sest to pidi ju koolis ka sama nimega olema liskas muudes kohtades...
Njeah, ega siis eestis olukord parem pole enamasti olnud, olgu ema kes iganes. Kui viimane just videole pole jäänud, et systis lapsele heroiini sisse ja peksis seejärel ahjuroobiga ketis olevat näljutatud last - ega siis suurt võimalust pole, et kohtus lapse kasvatmise õigused isale määraks kuigi viimasel kõik võimlaused võivad paremad olla ning ei hooli alimentidest.
7 June 2010 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on Eve Arm's post.
Sounds nice :)
I told long time ago to people: to much planning in ur life & you will miss out the life. Life is flow :)
I told long time ago to people: to much planning in ur life & you will miss out the life. Life is flow :)
7 June 2010 16:00
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Nu enamus inimesi nii suure uudishimuga või suhtlemis vajadusega, et ei suuda vastu panna ja helistavad tagasi - ja tegu ju ainult positiivse tulemusega.
1. mobiili firma teenib raha seega nad rõõmsad
2. inimene õpib oma uudishimu talitsema (hiljem)
3. inimene saab teada, et ei olnutki midagi olulist ja siis saab meelerahu
4. inimene õpib maailma kohta ühte teist ja saab targemaks peale telefoni arve saamist
jne
Vb tuleks lausa kohustuslikus korras selliseid kõnesi korra paar aasta jooksul tegema inimestele. Siis saadakse sellest mobiili haigusest kah natuke yle vb
1. mobiili firma teenib raha seega nad rõõmsad
2. inimene õpib oma uudishimu talitsema (hiljem)
3. inimene saab teada, et ei olnutki midagi olulist ja siis saab meelerahu
4. inimene õpib maailma kohta ühte teist ja saab targemaks peale telefoni arve saamist
jne
Vb tuleks lausa kohustuslikus korras selliseid kõnesi korra paar aasta jooksul tegema inimestele. Siis saadakse sellest mobiili haigusest kah natuke yle vb
7 June 2010 14:41
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Kulbok's album.
ma mõnes mõttes imetlen seda jultumust ja julgust... see hetk kui poes särki vahetasin, st särki yle pea tõmbasin see hetk pandi pihta mööda minnes. Et see suht uus tase juba sellise asja varguseks, eesti ike areneb :P
Kuid yeah, ju kellegi siis seda nii vaja oli oma õnne jaoks, et sellisel moodusel selle omandama pidi, seega mul hea meel kui üks inimene jälle õnnelikum .)
Kuid yeah, ju kellegi siis seda nii vaja oli oma õnne jaoks, et sellisel moodusel selle omandama pidi, seega mul hea meel kui üks inimene jälle õnnelikum .)
7 June 2010 14:35
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Kulbok's album.
ma mõnes mõttes imetlen seda jultumust ja julgust... see hetk kui poes särki vahetasin, st särki yle pea tõmbasin see hetk pandi pihta mööda minnes. Et see suht uus tase juba sellise asja varguseks, eesti ike areneb :P
Kuid yeah, ju kellegi siis seda nii vaja oli oma õnne jaoks, et sellisel moodusel selle omandama pidi, seega mul hea meel kui üks inimene jälle õnnelikum .)
Kuid yeah, ju kellegi siis seda nii vaja oli oma õnne jaoks, et sellisel moodusel selle omandama pidi, seega mul hea meel kui üks inimene jälle õnnelikum .)
7 June 2010 14:35
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
LOL, so Brigette thinks Bin Laden was not working for CIA back when he was active?
That USA was not selling weapons to Sadam?
That Taliban was not build up by USA (originally to fight with soviets.. .Well, ower half a million is dead there after last "help" and 7.5 million is dieing in starvation but hey.. no one asked these fking terrorist to live in our Earth right?)?
& if we go back... and we KNOW that Taliban was build up by USA (it's also in your history books) .. and that BinLaden first war was against Soviets in Afganistan whit USA help.. you do the thinking :)
& yes, i am no way saying there is not radical islamist terrorists at all... but this is not the big picture. Before blindly start telling "i am wrong" go and google: taliban cia soviet
then if you out ofrom this 6 million pages that most of tell same thing you do not find any credible souses (inq wikipedia and your own news networks).. then come and say i am wrong. CIA is not stupid.. they know what they do imho .)
That USA was not selling weapons to Sadam?
That Taliban was not build up by USA (originally to fight with soviets.. .Well, ower half a million is dead there after last "help" and 7.5 million is dieing in starvation but hey.. no one asked these fking terrorist to live in our Earth right?)?
& if we go back... and we KNOW that Taliban was build up by USA (it's also in your history books) .. and that BinLaden first war was against Soviets in Afganistan whit USA help.. you do the thinking :)
& yes, i am no way saying there is not radical islamist terrorists at all... but this is not the big picture. Before blindly start telling "i am wrong" go and google: taliban cia soviet
then if you out ofrom this 6 million pages that most of tell same thing you do not find any credible souses (inq wikipedia and your own news networks).. then come and say i am wrong. CIA is not stupid.. they know what they do imho .)
7 June 2010 09:16
Margus Meigo commented on Fadlinnisa Nasution's post.
Bastante bien :)
& U?
& U?
7 June 2010 08:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
: ))))
Supper! Kahju et ma ise tulla ei saanud... kuid next time!
Supper! Kahju et ma ise tulla ei saanud... kuid next time!
7 June 2010 08:24
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Kulbok's album.
:D
See kaabu panti pihta :(
See kaabu panti pihta :(
7 June 2010 08:22
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Kulbok's album.
:D
See kaabu panti pihta :(
See kaabu panti pihta :(
7 June 2010 08:22
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
So these jews mentioned on my links are "false" jews & they do not matter?
Just wonder
Just wonder
4 June 2010 12:26
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
IF THEY are masters of media manipulation then WHY is ISRAEL confiscated ALL the media material, all video, audio, security tapes etc etc. They have only released tiny amount of selected material and have manipulated a lot of material for their own propaganda.
If there is nothing to be afraid.. .RELEASE THE ORIGINALS AND GIVE IT BACK TO THE OWNERS
That's all i am saying, be honest :)
lol some pices on this article (with pic to amuze you) have pretty cool information: http://palestinethinktank.com/2010/06/03/an-italian-fascist-founded-the-unit-which-attacked-the-freedom-flotilla/ .. not maybe so important for all, but for some, for sore who can understand what the most important point is in this article..:)
& still.. i love this video, always: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=115244928491331 - just to funny. :D
it's funny as they have been arrested for this, for real.
funny that it's not allowed to talk about nazi & jew's cooperation & that many nazis are jews... or are many jews nazis? Who knows.. but connections between nazi partys and jews are ALL ower the place..just sad. Nothing against jews but this is just .. arrh
If there is nothing to be afraid.. .RELEASE THE ORIGINALS AND GIVE IT BACK TO THE OWNERS
That's all i am saying, be honest :)
lol some pices on this article (with pic to amuze you) have pretty cool information: http://palestinethinktank.com/2010/06/03/an-italian-fascist-founded-the-unit-which-attacked-the-freedom-flotilla/ .. not maybe so important for all, but for some, for sore who can understand what the most important point is in this article..:)
& still.. i love this video, always: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=115244928491331 - just to funny. :D
it's funny as they have been arrested for this, for real.
funny that it's not allowed to talk about nazi & jew's cooperation & that many nazis are jews... or are many jews nazis? Who knows.. but connections between nazi partys and jews are ALL ower the place..just sad. Nothing against jews but this is just .. arrh
4 June 2010 11:15
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
If isreal is so hones why they confiscated ALL the press material (videos,pictures, security camera videos, audio) from all the journalists and will not release originals or give it back to the owners? Why they edit the videos & use it for their own propaganda? Is this rightful thing to do?
as i sayd...if there is nothing to afraid, then release the originals... (you know like WikiLeaks released the USA jornalist murder videos and other material that USA gov told they had lost..)
Anyway, So still, you use this same tactic as always and keep ignoring ALL of my questions as you know there is no good answer for your guys sins. & about WHAT hate you talk about that i supposedly spread?! I am not the one who is spreading hate & you know it. I even copy pasted the Gariel questions where he is spreading extreme hatred whit words that even was to hard for Hitler to use.
I think you also know that Isreal bombed 2001 only working port in Gaza that Amsterdam & Franch started to build with their & EU money. & as they only allow limited products for thse who needed the help would newer have reach the gaza anyway in this amount. - so there is no option to take help to the ones who needed as THEY have occupied the land, 100% water & electricity & airspace is owned also by Isreal. They control how much they give, who they allow in and out - and they do not give a lot, just enough so they can barley survive. There is other side of issue also but i do not care about it (right)now as you even have not bothered to answer one question or give me one line reason. You just copy paste me some propaganda it seems and fail to acknowledge the problems in 2 sides.
I am even not Lebonese, terrorist or remotely Moslem or anything - so i guess you failed miserably to try to label me ;)
If you ask me then world would be so much better & safer place if there would be no Abraham religions... or any religions at all that promote hatred like these 3. & then we need to get rid of the other sick belief systems also like communism & fascism.. etc.. anyway i wonder how bored the people would be then if they h´ave no reason to kill others anymore? Maybe not bored.. maybe they would invest more time to enlightening & spiritual progress & wider education? Who knows..
as i sayd...if there is nothing to afraid, then release the originals... (you know like WikiLeaks released the USA jornalist murder videos and other material that USA gov told they had lost..)
Anyway, So still, you use this same tactic as always and keep ignoring ALL of my questions as you know there is no good answer for your guys sins. & about WHAT hate you talk about that i supposedly spread?! I am not the one who is spreading hate & you know it. I even copy pasted the Gariel questions where he is spreading extreme hatred whit words that even was to hard for Hitler to use.
I think you also know that Isreal bombed 2001 only working port in Gaza that Amsterdam & Franch started to build with their & EU money. & as they only allow limited products for thse who needed the help would newer have reach the gaza anyway in this amount. - so there is no option to take help to the ones who needed as THEY have occupied the land, 100% water & electricity & airspace is owned also by Isreal. They control how much they give, who they allow in and out - and they do not give a lot, just enough so they can barley survive. There is other side of issue also but i do not care about it (right)now as you even have not bothered to answer one question or give me one line reason. You just copy paste me some propaganda it seems and fail to acknowledge the problems in 2 sides.
I am even not Lebonese, terrorist or remotely Moslem or anything - so i guess you failed miserably to try to label me ;)
If you ask me then world would be so much better & safer place if there would be no Abraham religions... or any religions at all that promote hatred like these 3. & then we need to get rid of the other sick belief systems also like communism & fascism.. etc.. anyway i wonder how bored the people would be then if they h´ave no reason to kill others anymore? Maybe not bored.. maybe they would invest more time to enlightening & spiritual progress & wider education? Who knows..
4 June 2010 10:58
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's link.
Tubli :)
(ise ka ei osta neid vinkusi, kuid mitte taime toitluse pärast:P)
(ise ka ei osta neid vinkusi, kuid mitte taime toitluse pärast:P)
3 June 2010 16:53
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's link.
(& bdw ma Petra täitsa sain aru su vaadetest aru juba enne seda kui mulle selgitama neid uuesti hakkasid , mu sõnumid video all polnud nii palju sulle kui teistele kes seda vaatavad mõeldud. Tegu polnud mingit pidi rynnakuga sinu vaid nede sicode vastu seal & et keegi siin kriisi ajal neile raha ei hakkaks eestist välja saatma :)
3 June 2010 16:43
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's link.
Ära vääna mu sõnu nagu sa ütlesid - ma pole kordagi öelnud, et seal KÕIK lavastatud on. Ytlesin, et olukord niigi kohutav ja siis nad ise lavastavad veel graafilisi lõike juurde. Piisab kui nad YHE lõigu lavastasid, et kogu see leht minu silmis samasse patta panna kõikide teiste saatanatega, sest nad tegelevad nõrga sydamega inimeste mass lollitamise ja petmisega vähemal või rohkemal määral.
Ma ei oska maci burgeri kohta öelda miskit kuna ei söö mass toodangu solki mis on 10x kallima hinnaga kui ta tegelt väärt on :D Samal põhjusel ka ei tarvita jänu kustutajana cocakoolat vms. (coca myrki aint rummi seguna olen joonud viimati, ning ka hammaste loputamiseks paar korda hommikul peale suuremat pidu kui muud käepärast polnud). Eesti limonaadid muidugi paremad - mynte puhastavad paremini vähemalt :P
NIng selline "nali" ei lõppe IIAL ära, seda saab ainult vähendada (karmuselt) ja lihvida ja teha seaduse muudatusi (muidugi see läheb kõik hinnale juurde) et vähendada tapa eelset stressi ja sundida neid kasvatama neid paremates oludes. Kuid loomulikult see ei muuda kogu seda pointi, et elus olendeid kasvatatakse söögiks - jah, kasvatatakse. Ning ammugi see ei muuda pointi, et inimesed ei jaga matsu mida nad söövad ja kuidas see nende lauale tuli. 90% inimesi see ei hakka kunagi kottima. Seda nimetatakse planeet maaks ja neid olendeid inimesteks. Kuigi suurema osaga neist ennast ei tahaks samasse potti panna... kuid mis teha. Let's stay real ning proovime seal muudatusi teha kus neid saaks ja mis otseselt muudaks midagi :)
(bdw Bill gatesel päris hiruäratavad geenidega projectid käsil... mul lehel see vaksiinide lugu on üx asi kuid lisaks ta yx suremaid geneetiliselt muundatud taimede ja loomade toetaja.. ytles, et nad "loodavad" et see lõppeb hästi, we just play with nature... nothing important.....)
Ma ei oska maci burgeri kohta öelda miskit kuna ei söö mass toodangu solki mis on 10x kallima hinnaga kui ta tegelt väärt on :D Samal põhjusel ka ei tarvita jänu kustutajana cocakoolat vms. (coca myrki aint rummi seguna olen joonud viimati, ning ka hammaste loputamiseks paar korda hommikul peale suuremat pidu kui muud käepärast polnud). Eesti limonaadid muidugi paremad - mynte puhastavad paremini vähemalt :P
NIng selline "nali" ei lõppe IIAL ära, seda saab ainult vähendada (karmuselt) ja lihvida ja teha seaduse muudatusi (muidugi see läheb kõik hinnale juurde) et vähendada tapa eelset stressi ja sundida neid kasvatama neid paremates oludes. Kuid loomulikult see ei muuda kogu seda pointi, et elus olendeid kasvatatakse söögiks - jah, kasvatatakse. Ning ammugi see ei muuda pointi, et inimesed ei jaga matsu mida nad söövad ja kuidas see nende lauale tuli. 90% inimesi see ei hakka kunagi kottima. Seda nimetatakse planeet maaks ja neid olendeid inimesteks. Kuigi suurema osaga neist ennast ei tahaks samasse potti panna... kuid mis teha. Let's stay real ning proovime seal muudatusi teha kus neid saaks ja mis otseselt muudaks midagi :)
(bdw Bill gatesel päris hiruäratavad geenidega projectid käsil... mul lehel see vaksiinide lugu on üx asi kuid lisaks ta yx suremaid geneetiliselt muundatud taimede ja loomade toetaja.. ytles, et nad "loodavad" et see lõppeb hästi, we just play with nature... nothing important.....)
3 June 2010 16:39
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's link.
Nu mul endal ammu teoorja tulnud peale erineva teaduse lugemist (mitte "spiritualistide kräppi" nagu mõned seda kutsuvad), et täitsa võimalus olemas, et need vähid jms jamad mis inimestel on... nendel kindlasti ka seos sellega mida nad söövad (ja ma ei mõtle nagu kemikaalide osa... vaid seda kuidas see loom suri ja mis tast lihasse sisse jäi...).
Hing ja spirituaalne energja on yx asi kuid täitsa teaduse levelil ja kvantmehaanika levelil annaks seda uurida usun.
Paljudel inimestel arusaam, et teadus ja spirituaalne maailm on teineteise vasandid - ma nii ei arva. Lihtsalt samasi asju defineeeritakse erinevate nimede/tähendustega...
Sõnad ja keel on nagunii nii limiteeritud, et kui sellel levelil ainult mõtlema jääme siis meil arenguga ike pikalt aega läheb... loodus on kera - iga sunaline, laused, sõnad, keel on aga nagu joon - sellega enamasti ei saa edualt kirjeldada kõike mida vaja. Seega vahepeal on vaja väike psy reis teha :P
Kuid yeah, inimesed on erinevad - suure osa täiskasvanute inimeste jaoks on piim mürgine, teistel liha vastu otsene tõsine alergia. jne.
Osade inimeste keha töötab yhte moodi ja vajab rohkem teatud aineid.. teiste keha põletab edukamalt teisi aineid energjaks. See mis MULLE hea (või halb) on, ei pea selle pärast ka kõikidele teistele hea olema.
Kuid see muidugi pole mingi vabandus nendele inimestele kes neid videosi filmisid (ja lavastasid) seal. ...kuigi rohkem süügi oleksid ikka need aktivistid kes lavastavad selliseid videosi shokiks vs need kes ongi nii lameda mõistusega, et elavatki nii. Sest viimased lihtsalt liiga lollid, et aru saada - arvavad, et nii ongi normaalne. Esimesed aga teavad, et see EI ole normaalne... ja saavad aru sellest valust mida nod tunnevad (kui nad muidugi PUHTALT ainult raha peal väljas ei olnud)
Petra: miks arvad, et taimed elu energjat ei sisalda ning, et rohu niitmine või põletamine ei ole nteks taime mõrvamine? Seenestik ja mitmed teised taimed on tõestaud intelligentsiga ntex. (seentega seoses tuli see mees meelde http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/paul_stamets_on_6_ways_mushrooms_can_save_the_world.html - otse ei lähe teemasse, kuid natuke ike )
Hing ja spirituaalne energja on yx asi kuid täitsa teaduse levelil ja kvantmehaanika levelil annaks seda uurida usun.
Paljudel inimestel arusaam, et teadus ja spirituaalne maailm on teineteise vasandid - ma nii ei arva. Lihtsalt samasi asju defineeeritakse erinevate nimede/tähendustega...
Sõnad ja keel on nagunii nii limiteeritud, et kui sellel levelil ainult mõtlema jääme siis meil arenguga ike pikalt aega läheb... loodus on kera - iga sunaline, laused, sõnad, keel on aga nagu joon - sellega enamasti ei saa edualt kirjeldada kõike mida vaja. Seega vahepeal on vaja väike psy reis teha :P
Kuid yeah, inimesed on erinevad - suure osa täiskasvanute inimeste jaoks on piim mürgine, teistel liha vastu otsene tõsine alergia. jne.
Osade inimeste keha töötab yhte moodi ja vajab rohkem teatud aineid.. teiste keha põletab edukamalt teisi aineid energjaks. See mis MULLE hea (või halb) on, ei pea selle pärast ka kõikidele teistele hea olema.
Kuid see muidugi pole mingi vabandus nendele inimestele kes neid videosi filmisid (ja lavastasid) seal. ...kuigi rohkem süügi oleksid ikka need aktivistid kes lavastavad selliseid videosi shokiks vs need kes ongi nii lameda mõistusega, et elavatki nii. Sest viimased lihtsalt liiga lollid, et aru saada - arvavad, et nii ongi normaalne. Esimesed aga teavad, et see EI ole normaalne... ja saavad aru sellest valust mida nod tunnevad (kui nad muidugi PUHTALT ainult raha peal väljas ei olnud)
Petra: miks arvad, et taimed elu energjat ei sisalda ning, et rohu niitmine või põletamine ei ole nteks taime mõrvamine? Seenestik ja mitmed teised taimed on tõestaud intelligentsiga ntex. (seentega seoses tuli see mees meelde http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/paul_stamets_on_6_ways_mushrooms_can_save_the_world.html - otse ei lähe teemasse, kuid natuke ike )
3 June 2010 16:13
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's link.
Mhmh
Kuid me peame ettevaatlikud olema, sest kui vaba/mahe kasvatuse stressivaba inimliha nõudma hakatakse...
..., siis teadagi kelle poole stressis töölisklass & äri inimesed esimesena näljased silmad pööraks...
umbes selline tagaajamine hakkaks pihta avalikes parkides ja metsanurkades: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wSr7h_pjxs (ainuke vahe oleks "I wan'tu eat eati hippi" + muud lyyrikad annaks ka asjakohaseks seada...)
Kuid me peame ettevaatlikud olema, sest kui vaba/mahe kasvatuse stressivaba inimliha nõudma hakatakse...
..., siis teadagi kelle poole stressis töölisklass & äri inimesed esimesena näljased silmad pööraks...
umbes selline tagaajamine hakkaks pihta avalikes parkides ja metsanurkades: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wSr7h_pjxs (ainuke vahe oleks "I wan'tu eat eati hippi" + muud lyyrikad annaks ka asjakohaseks seada...)
3 June 2010 15:54
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's link.
Vaadates praeguste inimeste kasulikust sellele planeedile või võimekust outside the box (või muidu kasulikult) mõelda ma täitsa kaalun seda ideed. Loomade suhtes oleks palju ausam. Maitse pidi iseenesest ju parem olema kui looma lihal ning seda ei räägitud ainult sõja ajal.
Kindlasti annab tänapäeva teadusega kasvatada inimesi ylesse kellel teadvus täielikult puudub ja selle äratamiseks polekski mingeid võimalusi, oleksid kasvavad elavlihad lihtsalt siis.
Kas tead kedagi kes aitaks selle idee levitamisega tegeleda? :)
Kindlasti annab tänapäeva teadusega kasvatada inimesi ylesse kellel teadvus täielikult puudub ja selle äratamiseks polekski mingeid võimalusi, oleksid kasvavad elavlihad lihtsalt siis.
Kas tead kedagi kes aitaks selle idee levitamisega tegeleda? :)
3 June 2010 15:44
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's post.
Krt.. nii afatlev. Kahjuks lubasin ennast naise eksi 30'nda juubeliks ära Kullamaale .. arrh.
Kuid selle lehe peab feivoritesse kyll panema, tnx!!! :))
Kuid selle lehe peab feivoritesse kyll panema, tnx!!! :))
3 June 2010 15:25
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's link.
Päris uudistega kursis hoida liha ja sigade jne osas siis siin yks leht: http://www.pigprogress.net/ - pole suurt propagandat, reaalsed uudised (viimane oli 500st surnud seast).
http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/livestock/swine/facts/info_qs_stress.htm
Increased competition for agriculture commodities such as pork products seems to be a reality in today’s international trade arena. Providing high quality pork products into such markets is no longer an option but a fundamental requirement for sustainability. The Canadian Pork Industry depends heavily on export dollars for survival. Thus, international competition based on quality and the realities of our geography and market infrastructure should make us vigilant with respect to finding new ways of continually improving. In order to provide high quality pork products factors such as animal procurement and pre slaughter management are extremely important.
- ühesõnaga, KUI hoolite loomadest siis tegelege selliste asjadega, mitte konvertimisega mis ei aita loomi kuidagi, vaid inimese enesetunnet & ego. Raha on neile oluline ja kui seletada, et surma eelse stressi (ja ka kasvamis tingimuste stressi vähendamine) toob neile rohkem raha sisse, siis nad ka nii toimivad.
Osades tapamajades mängitakse klassikalist muuusikat enne kui kõik yli kõrge elektri shokiga korraga surmatakse. Kuid mooduseid teisigi, sest loomad pole lollid ja tunnetavad ikkagi seda ette tihti..
:)
http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/livestock/swine/facts/info_qs_stress.htm
Increased competition for agriculture commodities such as pork products seems to be a reality in today’s international trade arena. Providing high quality pork products into such markets is no longer an option but a fundamental requirement for sustainability. The Canadian Pork Industry depends heavily on export dollars for survival. Thus, international competition based on quality and the realities of our geography and market infrastructure should make us vigilant with respect to finding new ways of continually improving. In order to provide high quality pork products factors such as animal procurement and pre slaughter management are extremely important.
- ühesõnaga, KUI hoolite loomadest siis tegelege selliste asjadega, mitte konvertimisega mis ei aita loomi kuidagi, vaid inimese enesetunnet & ego. Raha on neile oluline ja kui seletada, et surma eelse stressi (ja ka kasvamis tingimuste stressi vähendamine) toob neile rohkem raha sisse, siis nad ka nii toimivad.
Osades tapamajades mängitakse klassikalist muuusikat enne kui kõik yli kõrge elektri shokiga korraga surmatakse. Kuid mooduseid teisigi, sest loomad pole lollid ja tunnetavad ikkagi seda ette tihti..
:)
3 June 2010 15:18
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's link.
Suht selge on, et mitmed tseenid on nede enda poolt lavastatud "for the greater good", et shoki efekti edasi anda. Ega muidu ju donation nupule ei kliki heameelega tavaline inimene.
Miks peaks looma extreem aktivistid, kes on valmis inimesi tapma KAITSMA neid inimesi kes seal videos oli (filmima sedasi, et nägusi pole näha karmimate tseenide puhul või siis plurrima seda..). Nad oleks võinud ju teise sala kaameraga kasvõi nägusi filmida (juhul kui neil kokkulepe nede sadistidega oli) - kaameraid nööbi suuruseid on.
EU's on isegi keelatud ju ümmargused akvaariumid mitmel pool, sest need kala nägemisele halvasti mõjuvad - kindlasti saaks midagi sellistega ette võtta, kasvõi omakohut.
Kindlasti kui otsib siis leiab ka kliki aegseid tapamajasi jne jne..
Olen mitmes tapamajas/farmis käinud ja selline muidugi see olukord ei ole. Ning mingit rutiinset piinamist või peksmist võib ette tulla väiksemates hillibillidega tapamajas. Sellisteks idiootsusteks päris tapamajad kes raha peale töötavad pole aega lihtsalt.
Samamoodi on ka väiksemates (ja vahest ka suurtemates) lastekodudes ja koolides VAHEST sadiste või idioote tööl - kas peaksime siis keelama need asutused?
Lisaks on ammu selgeks tehtud teadlaste ja ka farmerite poolt, et surma eelne stress rikub liha maitse ja mõjub halvasti säilimis ajale -seega on vaja nii kiirelt ja stressi vabalt seda korda ajada kui võimalik. (muidugi propakanda lehed ytlevad, et seda stressi/adrenaliini aetakse lihale sisse meelega maitse parandamiseks... see on BS, isegi kui on lolle kes seda siiamaani veel usuvad vanast ajast mõnes kylas siis kokad & farmerid teavad teisiti).
Googledage "Pre-slaughter stress" - ning näete, et see on avalik info. Kui hooliksite loomadest siis oleks kasulikum õpikodasi erinevatele farmeritele ja tapamajadele teha kuidas vähendada Pre-slaughter stressi loomadel ning kuidas läbi selle nende toodang paraneks ja nad rohkem raha teeniksid. Sest tõsiseid lihasööjaid ei koti need videod ()sedasi, et nad ei sööks liha ja isegi kui kotiks siis see ei mõjutaks KUIDAGI liha tööstust, sest nõudlust on alati ja uued inimesed kasvavad peale.
Kalade osas muidugi midagi suurt muud moodi teha ei saa praeguse nõudluse ja teadvuse juures kahjuks...
Kala mida enamasti ise söön on ka sõprade või tydruku vendade poolt püütud - lasen alati hea maitsta ning ei karda miskeid hagusi saada.
Videod tuletasid meelde neid haigeid võlts videosi "ärme lase korealastel koeri syya" - muidugi seal oli neil veel haledamalt asi kokku miksitud.
Need on väga isekad ja naiivsed inimesed kes sinna raha annavad ja arvavad, et nad sellega midagi head teinud nüüd on kindlalt.
MINE ise kohale sellistesse kohtadesse, OLE ise aktivist, VAATA ise kuidas mida saad paremaks teha (lihasööjatele)... aga ei.. enamus saadab video hunnikule sõpradele, nutab natuke, viskab natuke raha ja siis arvab, et jubedalt midagi head maailma ja loomade heaks teinud.
Sellised metall puurid kanadele nagu seal videos näidatakse on juba AMMU euroopa liidus keelatud (lisaks nad toodangule mõjusid halvasti)
Oh, bdw - mul isa hobi korras müüb "Õnnelike kanade mune" - kus kanad on vabas looduses ja korralikus personaliseeritud või muidu mugavas magamiskohas, ning toit neil on ka parim mida kanad soovida võiksid imho - ise eelistan IGA kell neid mune poe munadele. Ning nõudlus on tal alati kordades suurem kui toodang mida toodab kuigi poe munadest tal kallimad munad - ma ei tea miks kriisi ajal teised sellega ei tegele :)
tean, et mited rohelised nyyd hirm tigedad mu peale, kuid ma ... ma lihtsalt ei salli kellegi poolset vale propakandat ükskõik mis eesmärkidel. Olukord on niigi jube - pole vaja seda juurde lavastada ja selle käigus loomi piinata.
Suur hulk rohelisi on samasugused VALELIKUD raha ahned pätid nagu need kes teisel pool joont on.
See on äri lollide pealt nende jaoks. Lollid toetavad mida iganes, kasvõi VEE keelamist planeedil MAA (enamus hipid andsid allkirja selle jaoks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw
siin yhed teised veel tegid sama testi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmLOTqKsANw
Kuid see vaid yx näide mitmetest,
OLGE FAKTIN KRIITILISEMAD!!!
& vaielge vastu palun, kui ei ole nõus - vaikides nõustumine pole ka teab mis suur progress..
Miks peaks looma extreem aktivistid, kes on valmis inimesi tapma KAITSMA neid inimesi kes seal videos oli (filmima sedasi, et nägusi pole näha karmimate tseenide puhul või siis plurrima seda..). Nad oleks võinud ju teise sala kaameraga kasvõi nägusi filmida (juhul kui neil kokkulepe nede sadistidega oli) - kaameraid nööbi suuruseid on.
EU's on isegi keelatud ju ümmargused akvaariumid mitmel pool, sest need kala nägemisele halvasti mõjuvad - kindlasti saaks midagi sellistega ette võtta, kasvõi omakohut.
Kindlasti kui otsib siis leiab ka kliki aegseid tapamajasi jne jne..
Olen mitmes tapamajas/farmis käinud ja selline muidugi see olukord ei ole. Ning mingit rutiinset piinamist või peksmist võib ette tulla väiksemates hillibillidega tapamajas. Sellisteks idiootsusteks päris tapamajad kes raha peale töötavad pole aega lihtsalt.
Samamoodi on ka väiksemates (ja vahest ka suurtemates) lastekodudes ja koolides VAHEST sadiste või idioote tööl - kas peaksime siis keelama need asutused?
Lisaks on ammu selgeks tehtud teadlaste ja ka farmerite poolt, et surma eelne stress rikub liha maitse ja mõjub halvasti säilimis ajale -seega on vaja nii kiirelt ja stressi vabalt seda korda ajada kui võimalik. (muidugi propakanda lehed ytlevad, et seda stressi/adrenaliini aetakse lihale sisse meelega maitse parandamiseks... see on BS, isegi kui on lolle kes seda siiamaani veel usuvad vanast ajast mõnes kylas siis kokad & farmerid teavad teisiti).
Googledage "Pre-slaughter stress" - ning näete, et see on avalik info. Kui hooliksite loomadest siis oleks kasulikum õpikodasi erinevatele farmeritele ja tapamajadele teha kuidas vähendada Pre-slaughter stressi loomadel ning kuidas läbi selle nende toodang paraneks ja nad rohkem raha teeniksid. Sest tõsiseid lihasööjaid ei koti need videod ()sedasi, et nad ei sööks liha ja isegi kui kotiks siis see ei mõjutaks KUIDAGI liha tööstust, sest nõudlust on alati ja uued inimesed kasvavad peale.
Kalade osas muidugi midagi suurt muud moodi teha ei saa praeguse nõudluse ja teadvuse juures kahjuks...
Kala mida enamasti ise söön on ka sõprade või tydruku vendade poolt püütud - lasen alati hea maitsta ning ei karda miskeid hagusi saada.
Videod tuletasid meelde neid haigeid võlts videosi "ärme lase korealastel koeri syya" - muidugi seal oli neil veel haledamalt asi kokku miksitud.
Need on väga isekad ja naiivsed inimesed kes sinna raha annavad ja arvavad, et nad sellega midagi head teinud nüüd on kindlalt.
MINE ise kohale sellistesse kohtadesse, OLE ise aktivist, VAATA ise kuidas mida saad paremaks teha (lihasööjatele)... aga ei.. enamus saadab video hunnikule sõpradele, nutab natuke, viskab natuke raha ja siis arvab, et jubedalt midagi head maailma ja loomade heaks teinud.
Sellised metall puurid kanadele nagu seal videos näidatakse on juba AMMU euroopa liidus keelatud (lisaks nad toodangule mõjusid halvasti)
Oh, bdw - mul isa hobi korras müüb "Õnnelike kanade mune" - kus kanad on vabas looduses ja korralikus personaliseeritud või muidu mugavas magamiskohas, ning toit neil on ka parim mida kanad soovida võiksid imho - ise eelistan IGA kell neid mune poe munadele. Ning nõudlus on tal alati kordades suurem kui toodang mida toodab kuigi poe munadest tal kallimad munad - ma ei tea miks kriisi ajal teised sellega ei tegele :)
tean, et mited rohelised nyyd hirm tigedad mu peale, kuid ma ... ma lihtsalt ei salli kellegi poolset vale propakandat ükskõik mis eesmärkidel. Olukord on niigi jube - pole vaja seda juurde lavastada ja selle käigus loomi piinata.
Suur hulk rohelisi on samasugused VALELIKUD raha ahned pätid nagu need kes teisel pool joont on.
See on äri lollide pealt nende jaoks. Lollid toetavad mida iganes, kasvõi VEE keelamist planeedil MAA (enamus hipid andsid allkirja selle jaoks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw
siin yhed teised veel tegid sama testi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmLOTqKsANw
Kuid see vaid yx näide mitmetest,
OLGE FAKTIN KRIITILISEMAD!!!
& vaielge vastu palun, kui ei ole nõus - vaikides nõustumine pole ka teab mis suur progress..
3 June 2010 15:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
You know the thing that most Christians love to say "God is Love" - like love (god) is something distance from us...? Well we all know how hypocritical many of them are anyway for the pursuit of love & god but anyway, some extra wisdom from Angelus Silesius i think would be appropriate to add here so one would understand more:
"The essence of God, for instance, he held to be love; God, he said, can love nothing inferior to himself; but he cannot be an object of love to himself without going out, so to speak, of himself, without manifesting his infinity in a finite form; in other words, by becoming man. God and man are therefore essentially one."
"The essence of God, for instance, he held to be love; God, he said, can love nothing inferior to himself; but he cannot be an object of love to himself without going out, so to speak, of himself, without manifesting his infinity in a finite form; in other words, by becoming man. God and man are therefore essentially one."
2 June 2010 17:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Alexandrines of Angelus Silesius, XVII Century
The far most gleaming light of this world can be seen
Best from the darkest place where thou hast ever been.
Who would believe this true? From darkness light is wrought,
Life out of death, and Something out of Nought.
The sun sets all in motion, makes even the planets dance.
You are not part of all unless you too advance.
Truly, who all this world would accurately see
Must now Democritus, now Heraclitus be.
Man, all that you desire within you lies concealed;
You simply have not wrought until it be revealed.
As sternly as thou wilt, bind me by thousand chains;
The true self that is I unfettered still remains.
That man is well entitled to bear the rank of kings
Who under own dominion his strength and senses brings.
The present point in time, to him who seeketh bliss
Seemeth much more prolonged than all the future is.
There's nought to spur thee on; thou art the turning wheel
That spins of its own force, nor any rest may steal.
To be alone is good. Be not gregarious
And thou wilt everywhere walk in a wilderness.
The unencompassed man, like immortality,
Uninfluenced remains by all externity.
The world contains thee not; a universe thou art,
That with thee, in thyself so firmly holds thee barred.
The devil in his way is just as good as we.
The qualities he lacks? Will and serenity.
We are so well imbued with immortality,
Whether we will or not, immortal we must be.
The wise man, when he dies, no cry for heaven makes.
He has but come from there before his spirit breaks.
I say that nothing dies; rather, another life
By dying is bestowed, though it be lived in strife.
The world's a battleplace, the wreathlet and the crown
Not his who fears to fight, nor glory nor renown.
Death will I not acknowledge, although I died each hour,
Each time would only place new life within my power.
Oh folly! Man will strive for time unto his death
Yet for eternity will never waste a breath!
The silkworm works and spins until it learns to fly.
For shame, that as thou art upon the earth dost lie!
In your desires I marvel day plays so great a role
Since I have never known a sunset in my soul.
(Thank for the original EroWid DMT report from where i noticed this poem)
More:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/sil/alex/alex.htm
The far most gleaming light of this world can be seen
Best from the darkest place where thou hast ever been.
Who would believe this true? From darkness light is wrought,
Life out of death, and Something out of Nought.
The sun sets all in motion, makes even the planets dance.
You are not part of all unless you too advance.
Truly, who all this world would accurately see
Must now Democritus, now Heraclitus be.
Man, all that you desire within you lies concealed;
You simply have not wrought until it be revealed.
As sternly as thou wilt, bind me by thousand chains;
The true self that is I unfettered still remains.
That man is well entitled to bear the rank of kings
Who under own dominion his strength and senses brings.
The present point in time, to him who seeketh bliss
Seemeth much more prolonged than all the future is.
There's nought to spur thee on; thou art the turning wheel
That spins of its own force, nor any rest may steal.
To be alone is good. Be not gregarious
And thou wilt everywhere walk in a wilderness.
The unencompassed man, like immortality,
Uninfluenced remains by all externity.
The world contains thee not; a universe thou art,
That with thee, in thyself so firmly holds thee barred.
The devil in his way is just as good as we.
The qualities he lacks? Will and serenity.
We are so well imbued with immortality,
Whether we will or not, immortal we must be.
The wise man, when he dies, no cry for heaven makes.
He has but come from there before his spirit breaks.
I say that nothing dies; rather, another life
By dying is bestowed, though it be lived in strife.
The world's a battleplace, the wreathlet and the crown
Not his who fears to fight, nor glory nor renown.
Death will I not acknowledge, although I died each hour,
Each time would only place new life within my power.
Oh folly! Man will strive for time unto his death
Yet for eternity will never waste a breath!
The silkworm works and spins until it learns to fly.
For shame, that as thou art upon the earth dost lie!
In your desires I marvel day plays so great a role
Since I have never known a sunset in my soul.
(Thank for the original EroWid DMT report from where i noticed this poem)
More:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/sil/alex/alex.htm
2 June 2010 15:36
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Kulbok's album.
Väga kenad :))
2 June 2010 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on Neeme Kulbok's album.
Väga kenad :))
2 June 2010 02:46
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
Hanibaal Hanna, Well and you still, after you read my posts do not think that Isreal side has (at least) also non stop lied, used terror, murders, etc ? What part of the text i posted from public sources, from wikipedia etc is LIE in your opinion and what part is true? Please post all the parts and give your comments. Then go to the sources and fix them with facts - because if this what you are telling is truth not just propaganda full of lies, it's easy to do.
Do not just talk, act.
& when we are talking here... the flotilla thing happened. I guess here is also 100% truth on Israel side right? I have been traveled a side of there and my friends have. All other country's accept strangers nicely, everything what is under Israel felt like police state and they was really negative and unfriendly. Ready to shoot attitude if one does something wrong.
In same time i meet some of the so called terrorists and they was chilled out mostly, respected, friendly - also in airports (even tho i am white - so they should have been reason to suspect i was from USA or at least spy or something)
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& i no way ever newer support radical islam for religious reasons but please do not come to tell me that Jews or Israelites are some how more holy people or more better then others. We are all same, it's what we make out of ourself matters, not what religion, color or country one has. There is also some exceptions but not let's go in to this now... i talk about the basic & basic reality
& i am not a Baha'i you know, i just know it. I hope you know it also someday.
So You, will you like Gabriel call all the others, specially Arabs/Moslims "soleless savages who are all pure evil and out here to murder us all"? if not , then why you disagree with Gabriel?
Do you think Jews/isrealites or Christians or Americans are some how better then many others? Honestly, please answer. Who of them? Or do you belive someone is more bad becouse of their religion or color or country?
do not reply with your useless "she is good, they are bad, isreal tryes to save people" - READ & ANSWER, please!
Do not just talk, act.
& when we are talking here... the flotilla thing happened. I guess here is also 100% truth on Israel side right? I have been traveled a side of there and my friends have. All other country's accept strangers nicely, everything what is under Israel felt like police state and they was really negative and unfriendly. Ready to shoot attitude if one does something wrong.
In same time i meet some of the so called terrorists and they was chilled out mostly, respected, friendly - also in airports (even tho i am white - so they should have been reason to suspect i was from USA or at least spy or something)
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& i no way ever newer support radical islam for religious reasons but please do not come to tell me that Jews or Israelites are some how more holy people or more better then others. We are all same, it's what we make out of ourself matters, not what religion, color or country one has. There is also some exceptions but not let's go in to this now... i talk about the basic & basic reality
& i am not a Baha'i you know, i just know it. I hope you know it also someday.
So You, will you like Gabriel call all the others, specially Arabs/Moslims "soleless savages who are all pure evil and out here to murder us all"? if not , then why you disagree with Gabriel?
Do you think Jews/isrealites or Christians or Americans are some how better then many others? Honestly, please answer. Who of them? Or do you belive someone is more bad becouse of their religion or color or country?
do not reply with your useless "she is good, they are bad, isreal tryes to save people" - READ & ANSWER, please!
2 June 2010 02:38
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
Hanibaal Hanna - did you EVEN read all the things on my posts? These are thing what rest of civilized world is telling. Western world. From EU to America.
After i saw your "The United Phoenician Party" i understand totally why you need to spread messages like that.
I even printed out the stats of how much real Lebanese was getting killed because Israel occupation. You can keep up the lies & fantasy but truth is always stronger :))
After i saw your "The United Phoenician Party" i understand totally why you need to spread messages like that.
I even printed out the stats of how much real Lebanese was getting killed because Israel occupation. You can keep up the lies & fantasy but truth is always stronger :))
1 June 2010 21:45
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Teile ka :)
1 June 2010 20:50
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
One of the reasons for the invasion, according to Sheldon L. Richman was "the discrediting and destruction of the PLO, which, by June 1982, had observed its cease-fire with Israel for about a year and had been pursuing a diplomatic strategy."
Although the PLO had observed the ceasefire, Israel continued looking for the "internationally recognized provocation" that Secretary of State Alexander Haig said would be necessary to obtain American support for an Israeli invasion of Lebanon. Letter Dated 3 April 1982 From The Charge D 'Affaires (Aryeh Levin) A.I. of the Permanent Mission of Israel to The United Nations Addressed to the President of the Security Council. On 3 June 1982 an anti-Arafat splinter group which was not a part of the PLO and was headed by Abu Nidal paralyzed Israeli diplomat Shlomo Argov in an assassination attempt in London.
Prime Minister Menachem Begin had been informed by Israeli intelligence that the PLO was NOT involved in the attack on Argov, but withheld this information from his Cabinet.
Sami Moubayed would write in 2008 that Rafael Eitan, who was then the Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces, responded to the aforementioned information by saying: "Abu Nidal, Abu Shmidal. I don't know, we need to SCREW the PLO."
In late 1981, Begin told high-ranking Israeli general at the Waldorf-Astoria, "I want to see Arafat in his Bunker!".
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So yeah. But i guess most of you newer take time to read it. As less then 3% of you read thing according to some surveys.
Although the PLO had observed the ceasefire, Israel continued looking for the "internationally recognized provocation" that Secretary of State Alexander Haig said would be necessary to obtain American support for an Israeli invasion of Lebanon. Letter Dated 3 April 1982 From The Charge D 'Affaires (Aryeh Levin) A.I. of the Permanent Mission of Israel to The United Nations Addressed to the President of the Security Council. On 3 June 1982 an anti-Arafat splinter group which was not a part of the PLO and was headed by Abu Nidal paralyzed Israeli diplomat Shlomo Argov in an assassination attempt in London.
Prime Minister Menachem Begin had been informed by Israeli intelligence that the PLO was NOT involved in the attack on Argov, but withheld this information from his Cabinet.
Sami Moubayed would write in 2008 that Rafael Eitan, who was then the Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces, responded to the aforementioned information by saying: "Abu Nidal, Abu Shmidal. I don't know, we need to SCREW the PLO."
In late 1981, Begin told high-ranking Israeli general at the Waldorf-Astoria, "I want to see Arafat in his Bunker!".
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So yeah. But i guess most of you newer take time to read it. As less then 3% of you read thing according to some surveys.
1 June 2010 15:20
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
Dedorah - you REALLY want to belive that right?
PLEASE take time to read my 2 fallowing posts & i do hope to get word from Gabriel also.
You also know that by USA definition basically everyone who is not obeying their domination & political power is terrorist group right?
& bdw the name is Hezbollah :)
She told that 1975-1982 they terrorised & bombed her family (but her neigbhors around her house was interviewed & they told they can remember that on this period they was only couple of time on basement, other times they lived normal life... ),
But anyway,Hezbollah formed actually (earliest estimate) as DIRECT result AFTER Israeli bloody INVASION and OCCUPATION on 1982.
& back then Hezbollah was not powerful at all when they formed. Now they are mayor agricultural, educational & social services provider there.
Before invasion & invasion time the PLO was one of the mayor force (leader was Yasser Arafat as you know ) next to Syria forces & Hezbollah copied later many of their effective tactics to fight back to Isreal terror and way more superior military equipment (again for isrealites it was not terror but "Operation Peace for Galilee").
The Israel military was 5 times bigger then PLO & Isreal had 600+ aircrafts they used to bomb hell out of every Civilian on that eria.
If you do not belive look the numbers (exact esitmates are available, if you want ask links):
Syrian & Palestinian (PLO) combatants killed 10 000 + killed Lebanese 17 000 = about 27 000
& the invaders, boor Isreal, Cristyan forces loses: something a bit ower 650 (lets not forget THEY attacked, reasons why are also listed later in my post)
- it's OVER 41 TIMES more. Can you see now that you might not have been told full story?
& if you care to read how Isreal found excuses for invasion then it's NO secret, it's ALL open and documented & public. Have you bothered to read it?
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Here is some copy paste about these aful terrorists & their inspiration (info that is world wide accepted) :
Hezbollah is political and paramilitary organisation based in Lebanon. Hezbollah is now also a major provider of social services, which operate schools, hospitals, and agricultural services for thousands of Lebanese Shiites, and plays a significant force in Lebanese politics. It is regarded as a resistance movement throughout much of the Arab and Muslim world.
Several western countries, including the United States, regard it in whole or in part as a terrorist organization
Hezbollah first emerged as a militia in response to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, also known as Operation Peace for Galilee, in 1982, set on resisting the Israeli occupation of Lebanon during the Lebanese civil war.
Scholars differ as to when Hezbollah came to be a distinct entity. Some organizations list the official formation of the group AS EARLY as 1982, in response to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. Diaz and Newman maintain however, that Hezbollah remained an amalgamation of various violent Shi’a activists until as late as 1985.
Another source states that it was formed by supporters of Sheikh Ragheb Harb (holy spiritual Iman), a leader of the southern Shiite resistance, who was killed by Israelis in 1984
Hezbollah, which started with only a small militia, has grown to an organization with seats in the Lebanese government, a radio and a satellite television-station, and programs for social development.
It's accepted that Hezbollah leaders were inspired by world famous Ayatollah Khomeini
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Who is this Khomeini you my ask?
In the Muslim world abroad he was described as the "virtual face in Western popular culture of Islam," & also described as "the Imam, an ascetic spiritual leader whose teachings are unquestioned."
Khomeini studied Greek Philosophy and was influenced by both the philosophy of Aristotle, whom he regarded as the founder of logic, and Plato, whose views "in the field of divinity" he regarded as "grave and solid". Apart from philosophy, Khomeini was also interested in literature and poetry. Khomeini was a prolific writer - ower 200 of his books are online
PLEASE take time to read my 2 fallowing posts & i do hope to get word from Gabriel also.
You also know that by USA definition basically everyone who is not obeying their domination & political power is terrorist group right?
& bdw the name is Hezbollah :)
She told that 1975-1982 they terrorised & bombed her family (but her neigbhors around her house was interviewed & they told they can remember that on this period they was only couple of time on basement, other times they lived normal life... ),
But anyway,Hezbollah formed actually (earliest estimate) as DIRECT result AFTER Israeli bloody INVASION and OCCUPATION on 1982.
& back then Hezbollah was not powerful at all when they formed. Now they are mayor agricultural, educational & social services provider there.
Before invasion & invasion time the PLO was one of the mayor force (leader was Yasser Arafat as you know ) next to Syria forces & Hezbollah copied later many of their effective tactics to fight back to Isreal terror and way more superior military equipment (again for isrealites it was not terror but "Operation Peace for Galilee").
The Israel military was 5 times bigger then PLO & Isreal had 600+ aircrafts they used to bomb hell out of every Civilian on that eria.
If you do not belive look the numbers (exact esitmates are available, if you want ask links):
Syrian & Palestinian (PLO) combatants killed 10 000 + killed Lebanese 17 000 = about 27 000
& the invaders, boor Isreal, Cristyan forces loses: something a bit ower 650 (lets not forget THEY attacked, reasons why are also listed later in my post)
- it's OVER 41 TIMES more. Can you see now that you might not have been told full story?
& if you care to read how Isreal found excuses for invasion then it's NO secret, it's ALL open and documented & public. Have you bothered to read it?
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Here is some copy paste about these aful terrorists & their inspiration (info that is world wide accepted) :
Hezbollah is political and paramilitary organisation based in Lebanon. Hezbollah is now also a major provider of social services, which operate schools, hospitals, and agricultural services for thousands of Lebanese Shiites, and plays a significant force in Lebanese politics. It is regarded as a resistance movement throughout much of the Arab and Muslim world.
Several western countries, including the United States, regard it in whole or in part as a terrorist organization
Hezbollah first emerged as a militia in response to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, also known as Operation Peace for Galilee, in 1982, set on resisting the Israeli occupation of Lebanon during the Lebanese civil war.
Scholars differ as to when Hezbollah came to be a distinct entity. Some organizations list the official formation of the group AS EARLY as 1982, in response to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. Diaz and Newman maintain however, that Hezbollah remained an amalgamation of various violent Shi’a activists until as late as 1985.
Another source states that it was formed by supporters of Sheikh Ragheb Harb (holy spiritual Iman), a leader of the southern Shiite resistance, who was killed by Israelis in 1984
Hezbollah, which started with only a small militia, has grown to an organization with seats in the Lebanese government, a radio and a satellite television-station, and programs for social development.
It's accepted that Hezbollah leaders were inspired by world famous Ayatollah Khomeini
--
Who is this Khomeini you my ask?
In the Muslim world abroad he was described as the "virtual face in Western popular culture of Islam," & also described as "the Imam, an ascetic spiritual leader whose teachings are unquestioned."
Khomeini studied Greek Philosophy and was influenced by both the philosophy of Aristotle, whom he regarded as the founder of logic, and Plato, whose views "in the field of divinity" he regarded as "grave and solid". Apart from philosophy, Khomeini was also interested in literature and poetry. Khomeini was a prolific writer - ower 200 of his books are online
1 June 2010 15:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I am here not to bully.. i just wanted to get answers from Brigitte, thats all :)
1 June 2010 02:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
& as i saw Prisonpalnet (site i really do not like) pages links posted by Brigitte i was wondering what prisonplanet himself thinks about her... here is quote:
"FOX News regularly books rabid Christian end-of-the-worlders under the title of "Middle East expert" (Mike Evans, Brigitte Gabriel, Walid Shoebat. Mike Hitchcock, et al) and allows them to push their crackpo religious beliefs as if they were "mainstream" commentators. These people consistently push for either the United States for Israel to bomb Iran, leaving FOX viewers with the impression that there is a lot of support among the community of experts when, in fact, the exact opposite is the truth. "
"FOX News regularly books rabid Christian end-of-the-worlders under the title of "Middle East expert" (Mike Evans, Brigitte Gabriel, Walid Shoebat. Mike Hitchcock, et al) and allows them to push their crackpo religious beliefs as if they were "mainstream" commentators. These people consistently push for either the United States for Israel to bomb Iran, leaving FOX viewers with the impression that there is a lot of support among the community of experts when, in fact, the exact opposite is the truth. "
1 June 2010 02:33
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
LoL, it's good for you if you do know her well and you are not ashamed - so you do know also about her made up history thankfully and i do not need to remind this to you? Like Hizbullah who supposedly terrorised her long long years before they excised etc...
i can see, that these quotations can come from really enlightened and smart person:
"The difference, my friends, between Israel and the Arab world is the difference between civilization and barbarism"
"It's the difference between good and evil. They have no SOUL"
"Americans should "acknowledge that our Western culture is.. better than others."
- well, actually you know yourself Stephan, that there can be basically 2 main options:
if she is ignorant or semi retarded then we can forgive these quotes (and many others) lies but if she knows what she is doing & is smart women who knows for who she works & for what reasons she is spreading these messages (this is what it seems to me, but as you told what i know...) ... well.. can this say something about her as a person? Does not seem like "Gabriel" to me or any other rational person whit any common sense.
I do wait rational response from insider like you :)
Thanks!
i can see, that these quotations can come from really enlightened and smart person:
"The difference, my friends, between Israel and the Arab world is the difference between civilization and barbarism"
"It's the difference between good and evil. They have no SOUL"
"Americans should "acknowledge that our Western culture is.. better than others."
- well, actually you know yourself Stephan, that there can be basically 2 main options:
if she is ignorant or semi retarded then we can forgive these quotes (and many others) lies but if she knows what she is doing & is smart women who knows for who she works & for what reasons she is spreading these messages (this is what it seems to me, but as you told what i know...) ... well.. can this say something about her as a person? Does not seem like "Gabriel" to me or any other rational person whit any common sense.
I do wait rational response from insider like you :)
Thanks!
1 June 2010 02:21
Margus Meigo commented on Kas see kurk saab rohkem fänne kui Edgar Savisaar?'s link.
Kui nii edasi läheb, siis on teil mitte ainult rohkem liikmeid kui keskerakonnal vaid ka rohkem liikmeid kui vyrst Putin Vladimir Vladimirovich'i lehel (tal 52 tuhat praegu) :P
1 June 2010 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on Brigitte Gabriel's link.
Some might say: "Sad if people are so narrow minded that lissten fake Zionist" ... some might say nice theater & enertaiment...
Boor souls :)
(if anyone really cares about her please make some research about her "history & strugle" )
Boor souls :)
(if anyone really cares about her please make some research about her "history & strugle" )
31 May 2010 20:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
* James Hansen of NASA wanted trials for climate skeptics, accusing them of ‘high crimes against humanity‘
* Robert Kennedy Jr. called climate skeptics ‘traitors’... See More
* Yvo de Boer of the UN called climate skepticism ‘criminally irresponsible’
* David Suzuki called for politicians who ignore climate ’science’ to be jailed
* DeSmogBlog’s James Hoggan wants skeptics treated as war criminals (video)
* Grist called for ‘Nuremberg trials’ for skeptics
* Emo-Joe Romm wanted skeptics strangled in their beds
* A blogger at TPM pondered when it would be acceptable to execute climate ‘deniers’
The Guardian also has glossed over the inconvenient truth that warmists first tried to silence debate:
* Al Gore, ‘the debate is over’:
* David Suzuki, Gore’s poodle, echoes the Godfather of AGW and parrots ‘the debate is over‘
* Fred Pearce calls for Australia to ‘silence skeptics’
* Heidi Cullen of The Weather Channel called for skeptical forecasters to be decertified
* Bernie Sanders compared climate skeptics to Nazi appeasers.
* Grist has a how-to-talk-to-a-climate-skeptic guidebook
* A complicit media heralded the debate is over mantra
http://www.climatechangefraud.com/enviro-extremists/6519-when-skeptics-attack
( & do not take my remarks on "i do not give a f about population controll" to directly aaight, but the issue is wider... & when people who throw harmful toxins to nature or to africa.. have secret meetings where they talk about value of human life & how to controll the population - it makes me a bit skeptical their aims are honest & good :)
-- more qtes from other pages:
Quite how an improvement in health care and vaccines that supposedly save lives would lead to a lowering in global population is an oxymoron, unless Gates is referring to vaccines that sterilize people, which is precisely the same method advocated in White House science advisor John P. Holdren’s 1977 textbook Ecoscience, which calls for a dictatorial “planetary regime” to enforce draconian measures of population reduction via all manner of oppressive techniques, including sterilization.
“I’m not sure what the nothing-to-see-here explanation is for Bill Gates’ theory that “new vaccines” can help lower the population of the world,” points out the Cryptogon blog, “But I thought about the incidents from the 1990s where the World Health Organization was providing a “tetanus vaccine” to poor girls and women (and just poor girls and women) that contained human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG). For those who don’t want to delve into that, in short, it was a World Health Organization experiment; a test of a vaccine against pregnancy.”
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Dr. Wakefield has inspired a growing political movement against vaccines on both sides of the Atlantic. Some of it comes from well-meaning “wellness” advocates, but whatever the source it has created an epidemic of fear that is raising the spectre of polio and measles in this country, even as Gates tries to eradicate it in Africa.
In this money is not the issue, power is. Gates is going to be drawn into this inevitably, the man with the target on his back, as the anti-vaccination forces follow him into the developing world and try to put him on the defensive on his home ground.
The opposition is not just the cranks surrounding Wakefield http://www.thoughtfulhouse.org/ and the holistic health nuts. It comes from famous people like Jenny McCarthy and Robert Kennedy Jr., who call rotavirus vaccine pioneer Paul Offit a profiteer, and have grabbed the URLs using his name to spout their hatred of him. http://www.pauloffit.com/
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Bill Gates funds covert vaccine nanotechnology
http://www.naturalnews.com/028887_vaccines_Bill_Gates.html
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is gaining a reputation for funding technologies designed to roll out mass sterilization and vaccination programs around the world. One of the programs recently funded by the foundation is a sterilization program that would use sharp blasts of ultrasound directed against a man's scrotum to render him infertile for six months
Now, the foundation has funded a new "sweat-triggered vaccine delivery" program based on nanoparticles penetrating human skin. The technology is describes as a way to "...develop nanoparticles that penetrate the skin through hair follicles and burst upon contact with human sweat to release vaccines."
breakthroughs like mass sterilization and nanoparticle vaccines that could be covertly administered even without your knowledge, it turns out. These nanoparticles could be used in a spray mist that's sprayed on to every person who walks through an airport security checkpoint, for example. Or it could be unleashed through the ventilation systems of corporate office buildings or public schools to vaccinate the masses. You wouldn't even know you were being vaccinated.
This technology is potentially very dangerous to your health freedom. Using it, governments or drug companies (which are all the same thing these days) could create a vaccine skin cream that's handed out and described as "sunscreen." But when you put it on, you're actually vaccinating yourself as the nanoparticles burrow underneath your skin and burst, releasing foreign DNA inside your body.
A history of covert mass medication
But why would the government medicate people without their knowledge or consent, you ask? They already do it with water fluoridation... (that now has prooven to have no positive effect for most people... it only makes people to question less authorty..)
--
(google also Tetanus hCG )
Billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation
America's richest people meet to discuss ways of tackling a 'disastrous' environmental, social and industrial threat
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6350303.ece
- & i am not sayng all rich & powerful people are all extremely bad. But shouldn't we look in to their nanotechnology & other things that can in the end easily change ALL the people in earth a way someone wants? Should we a bit think for these who can not think themself? Is it a less of a crime to just do nothing?
* Robert Kennedy Jr. called climate skeptics ‘traitors’... See More
* Yvo de Boer of the UN called climate skepticism ‘criminally irresponsible’
* David Suzuki called for politicians who ignore climate ’science’ to be jailed
* DeSmogBlog’s James Hoggan wants skeptics treated as war criminals (video)
* Grist called for ‘Nuremberg trials’ for skeptics
* Emo-Joe Romm wanted skeptics strangled in their beds
* A blogger at TPM pondered when it would be acceptable to execute climate ‘deniers’
The Guardian also has glossed over the inconvenient truth that warmists first tried to silence debate:
* Al Gore, ‘the debate is over’:
* David Suzuki, Gore’s poodle, echoes the Godfather of AGW and parrots ‘the debate is over‘
* Fred Pearce calls for Australia to ‘silence skeptics’
* Heidi Cullen of The Weather Channel called for skeptical forecasters to be decertified
* Bernie Sanders compared climate skeptics to Nazi appeasers.
* Grist has a how-to-talk-to-a-climate-skeptic guidebook
* A complicit media heralded the debate is over mantra
http://www.climatechangefraud.com/enviro-extremists/6519-when-skeptics-attack
( & do not take my remarks on "i do not give a f about population controll" to directly aaight, but the issue is wider... & when people who throw harmful toxins to nature or to africa.. have secret meetings where they talk about value of human life & how to controll the population - it makes me a bit skeptical their aims are honest & good :)
-- more qtes from other pages:
Quite how an improvement in health care and vaccines that supposedly save lives would lead to a lowering in global population is an oxymoron, unless Gates is referring to vaccines that sterilize people, which is precisely the same method advocated in White House science advisor John P. Holdren’s 1977 textbook Ecoscience, which calls for a dictatorial “planetary regime” to enforce draconian measures of population reduction via all manner of oppressive techniques, including sterilization.
“I’m not sure what the nothing-to-see-here explanation is for Bill Gates’ theory that “new vaccines” can help lower the population of the world,” points out the Cryptogon blog, “But I thought about the incidents from the 1990s where the World Health Organization was providing a “tetanus vaccine” to poor girls and women (and just poor girls and women) that contained human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG). For those who don’t want to delve into that, in short, it was a World Health Organization experiment; a test of a vaccine against pregnancy.”
-
Dr. Wakefield has inspired a growing political movement against vaccines on both sides of the Atlantic. Some of it comes from well-meaning “wellness” advocates, but whatever the source it has created an epidemic of fear that is raising the spectre of polio and measles in this country, even as Gates tries to eradicate it in Africa.
In this money is not the issue, power is. Gates is going to be drawn into this inevitably, the man with the target on his back, as the anti-vaccination forces follow him into the developing world and try to put him on the defensive on his home ground.
The opposition is not just the cranks surrounding Wakefield http://www.thoughtfulhouse.org/ and the holistic health nuts. It comes from famous people like Jenny McCarthy and Robert Kennedy Jr., who call rotavirus vaccine pioneer Paul Offit a profiteer, and have grabbed the URLs using his name to spout their hatred of him. http://www.pauloffit.com/
--
Bill Gates funds covert vaccine nanotechnology
http://www.naturalnews.com/028887_vaccines_Bill_Gates.html
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is gaining a reputation for funding technologies designed to roll out mass sterilization and vaccination programs around the world. One of the programs recently funded by the foundation is a sterilization program that would use sharp blasts of ultrasound directed against a man's scrotum to render him infertile for six months
Now, the foundation has funded a new "sweat-triggered vaccine delivery" program based on nanoparticles penetrating human skin. The technology is describes as a way to "...develop nanoparticles that penetrate the skin through hair follicles and burst upon contact with human sweat to release vaccines."
breakthroughs like mass sterilization and nanoparticle vaccines that could be covertly administered even without your knowledge, it turns out. These nanoparticles could be used in a spray mist that's sprayed on to every person who walks through an airport security checkpoint, for example. Or it could be unleashed through the ventilation systems of corporate office buildings or public schools to vaccinate the masses. You wouldn't even know you were being vaccinated.
This technology is potentially very dangerous to your health freedom. Using it, governments or drug companies (which are all the same thing these days) could create a vaccine skin cream that's handed out and described as "sunscreen." But when you put it on, you're actually vaccinating yourself as the nanoparticles burrow underneath your skin and burst, releasing foreign DNA inside your body.
A history of covert mass medication
But why would the government medicate people without their knowledge or consent, you ask? They already do it with water fluoridation... (that now has prooven to have no positive effect for most people... it only makes people to question less authorty..)
--
(google also Tetanus hCG )
Billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation
America's richest people meet to discuss ways of tackling a 'disastrous' environmental, social and industrial threat
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6350303.ece
- & i am not sayng all rich & powerful people are all extremely bad. But shouldn't we look in to their nanotechnology & other things that can in the end easily change ALL the people in earth a way someone wants? Should we a bit think for these who can not think themself? Is it a less of a crime to just do nothing?
31 May 2010 16:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
In addition, Julian H. Robertson, Jr., hedge-fund billionaire who worked with Soros attacking the currencies of Thailand, Indonesia, South Korea and the Asian Tigen economies, precipitating the 1997-98 Asia Crisis. Also present at the first session of the Good Club was Patty Stonesifer, former chief executive of the Gates foundation, and John Morgridge of Cisco Systems. The group represented a combined fortune of more than $125 billion.17
(17 John Harlow, Billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation, London, The Sunday Times May 24, 2009. Accessed here http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6350303.ece )
According to reports apparently leaked by one of the attendees, the meeting was held in response to the global economic downturn and the numerous health and environmental crises that are plaguing the globe.
But the central theme and purpose of the secret Good Club meeting of the plutocrats was the priority concern posed by Bill Gates, namely, how to advance more effectively their agenda of birth control and global population reduction. In the talks a consensus reportedly emerged that they would “back a strategy in which population growth would be tackled as a potentially disastrous environmental, social and industrial threat.” (ibid)
Global Eugenics agenda
Gates and Buffett are major funders of global population reduction programs, as is Turner, whose UN Foundation was created to funnel $1 billion of his tax-free stock option earnings in AOL-Time-Warner into various birth reduction programs in the developing world.19 (United Nations Foundation, Women and Population Program, accessed here http://www.unfoundation.org/about-unf/experts/ )The programs in Africa and elsewhere are masked as philanthropy and providing health services for poor Africans. In reality they involve involuntary population sterilization via vaccination and other medicines that make women of child-bearing age infertile. The Gates Foundation, where Buffett deposited the bulk of his wealth two years ago, is also backing introduction of GMO seeds into Africa under the cloak of the Kofi Annan-led ‘Second Green Revolution’ in Africa. The introduction of GMO patented seeds in Africa to date has met with enormous indigenous resistance.
Health experts point out that were the intent of Gates really to improve the health and well-being of black Africans, the same hundreds of millions of dollars the Gates Foundation has invested in untested and unsafe vaccines could be used in providing minimal sanitary water and sewage systems. Vaccinating a child who then goes to drink feces-polluted river water is hardly healthy in any respect. But of course cleaning up the water and sewage systems of Africa would revolutionize the health conditions of the Continent.
Gates’ TED2010 comments about having new vaccines to reduce global population were obviously no off-the-cuff remark. For those who doubt, the presentation Gates made at the TED2009 annual gathering said almost exactly the same thing about reducing population to cut global warming. For the mighty and powerful of the Good Club, human beings seem to be a form of pollution equal to CO2.
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http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/Swine_Flu/Gates_Vaccines/gates_vaccines.html
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Have nive day! :)
Waffa M
(17 John Harlow, Billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation, London, The Sunday Times May 24, 2009. Accessed here http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6350303.ece )
According to reports apparently leaked by one of the attendees, the meeting was held in response to the global economic downturn and the numerous health and environmental crises that are plaguing the globe.
But the central theme and purpose of the secret Good Club meeting of the plutocrats was the priority concern posed by Bill Gates, namely, how to advance more effectively their agenda of birth control and global population reduction. In the talks a consensus reportedly emerged that they would “back a strategy in which population growth would be tackled as a potentially disastrous environmental, social and industrial threat.” (ibid)
Global Eugenics agenda
Gates and Buffett are major funders of global population reduction programs, as is Turner, whose UN Foundation was created to funnel $1 billion of his tax-free stock option earnings in AOL-Time-Warner into various birth reduction programs in the developing world.19 (United Nations Foundation, Women and Population Program, accessed here http://www.unfoundation.org/about-unf/experts/ )The programs in Africa and elsewhere are masked as philanthropy and providing health services for poor Africans. In reality they involve involuntary population sterilization via vaccination and other medicines that make women of child-bearing age infertile. The Gates Foundation, where Buffett deposited the bulk of his wealth two years ago, is also backing introduction of GMO seeds into Africa under the cloak of the Kofi Annan-led ‘Second Green Revolution’ in Africa. The introduction of GMO patented seeds in Africa to date has met with enormous indigenous resistance.
Health experts point out that were the intent of Gates really to improve the health and well-being of black Africans, the same hundreds of millions of dollars the Gates Foundation has invested in untested and unsafe vaccines could be used in providing minimal sanitary water and sewage systems. Vaccinating a child who then goes to drink feces-polluted river water is hardly healthy in any respect. But of course cleaning up the water and sewage systems of Africa would revolutionize the health conditions of the Continent.
Gates’ TED2010 comments about having new vaccines to reduce global population were obviously no off-the-cuff remark. For those who doubt, the presentation Gates made at the TED2009 annual gathering said almost exactly the same thing about reducing population to cut global warming. For the mighty and powerful of the Good Club, human beings seem to be a form of pollution equal to CO2.
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http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/Swine_Flu/Gates_Vaccines/gates_vaccines.html
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Have nive day! :)
Waffa M
31 May 2010 16:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Gates "Gene Revolution in Africa"
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, along with David Rockefeller’s Rockefeller Foundation, the creators of the GMO biotechnology, are also financing a project called The Alliance for a Green Revolution in Africa (AGRA) headed by former UN chief, Kofi Annan. Accepting the role as AGRA head in June 2007 Annan expressed his “gratitude to the Rockefeller Foundation, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and all others who support our African campaign.” The AGRA board is dominated by people from both the Gates’ and Rockefeller foundations.10
(10 Cited in F. William Engdahl, "Doomsday Seed Vault" in the Arctic: Bill Gates, Rockefeller and the GMO giants know something we don’t, Global Research, December 4, 2007, accessed here http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7529 )
Monsanto, DuPont, Dow, Syngenta and other major GMO agribusiness giants are reported at the heart of AGRA, using it as a back-door to spread their patented GMO seeds across Africa under the deceptive label, ‘bio-technology,’ a euphemism for genetically engineered patented seeds. The person from the Gates Foundation responsible for its work with AGRA is Dr. Robert Horsch, a 25-year Monsanto GMO veteran who was on the team that developed Monsanto’s RoundUp Ready GMO technologies. His job is reportedly to use Gates’ money to introduce GMO into Africa.11
(11 Mariam Mayet, Africa’s Green Revolution rolls out the Gene Revolution, African Centre for Biosafety, ACB Briefing Paper No. 6/2009, Melville, South Africa, April 2009.)
To date South Africa is the only African country permitting legal planting of GMO crops. In 2003 Burkina Faso authorized GMO trials. In 2005 Kofi Annan’s Ghana drafted bio-safety legislation and key officials expressed their intentions to pursue research into GMO crops. AGRA is being used to create networks of “agro-dealers” across Africa, at first with no mention of GMO seeds or herbicides, in order to have the infrastructure in place to massively introduce GMO.(Ibid)
GMO, glyphosate and population reduction
GMO crops have never been proven safe for human or animal consumption. Moreover, they are inherently genetically ‘unstable’ as they are an unnatural product of introducing a foreign bacteria such as Bacillus Thuringiensis (Bt) or other material into the DNA of a given seed to change its traits. Perhaps equally dangerous are the ‘paired’ chemical herbicides sold as a mandatory part of a GMO contract, such as Monsanto’s Roundup, the most widely used such herbicide in the world. It contains highly toxic glyphosate compounds that have been independently tested and proven to exist in toxic concentrations in GMO applications far above that safe for humans or animals. Tests show that tiny amounts of glyphosate compounds would do damage to a human umbilical, embryonic and placental cells in a pregnant woman drinking the ground water near a GMO field.13
(Nora Benachour and Gilles-Eric Seralini, Glyphosate Formulations Induce Apoptosis and Necrosis in Human Umbilical Embryonic, and Placental Cells, Chemical Research in Toxicology Journal, American Chemical Society, , (1), pp 97–105.)
One long-standing project of the US Government has been to perfect a genetically-modified variety of corn, the diet staple in Mexico and many other Latin American countries. The corn has been field tested in tests financed by the US Department of Agriculture along with a small California bio-tech company named Epicyte. Announcing his success at a 2001 press conference, the president of Epicyte, Mitch Hein, pointing to his GMO corn plants, announced, “We have a hothouse filled with corn plants that make anti-sperm antibodies.”14
(Robin McKie, GMO Corn Set to Stop Man Spreading His Seed, London, The Observer, 9 September 2001.)
Hein explained that they had taken antibodies from women with a rare condition known as immune infertility, isolated the genes that regulated the manufacture of those infertility antibodies, and, using genetic engineering techniques, had inserted the genes into ordinary corn seeds used to produce corn plants. In this manner, in reality they produced a concealed contraceptive embedded in corn meant for human consumption. “Essentially, the antibodies are attracted to surface receptors on the sperm,” said Hein. “They latch on and make each sperm so heavy it cannot move forward. It just shakes about as if it was doing the lambada.”15 Hein claimed it was a possible solution to world “over-population.” The moral and ethical issues of feeding it to humans in Third World poor countries without their knowing it countries he left out of his remarks.
(15 Ibid. McKie writes, “The pregnancy prevention plants are the handiwork of the San Diego biotechnology company Epicyte, where researchers have discovered a rare class of human antibodies that attack sperm…the company has created tiny horticultural factories that make contraceptives…Essentially, the antibodies are attracted to surface receptors on the sperm,” said Hein. “They latch on and make each sperm so heavy it cannot move forward. It just shakes about as if it was doing the lambada.”)
Spermicides hidden in GMO corn provided to starving Third World populations through the generosity of the Gates’ foundation, Rockefeller Foundation and Kofi Annan’s AGRA or vaccines that contain undisclosed sterilization agents are just two documented cases of using vaccines or GMO seeds to “reduce population.”
And the ‘Good Club’
Gates’ TED2010 speech on zero emissions and population reduction is consistent with a report that appeared in New York City’s ethnic media, Irish.Central.com in May 2009. According to the report, a secret meeting took place on May 5, 2009 at the home of Sir Paul Nurse, President of Rockefeller University, among some of the wealthiest people in America. Investment guru Warren Buffett who in 2006 decided to pool his $30 billion Buffett Foundation into the Gates foundation to create the world’s largest private foundation with some $60 billions of tax-free dollars was present. Banker David Rockefeller was the host.
The exclusive letter of invitation was signed by Gates, Rockefeller and Buffett. They decided to call themselves the “Good Club.” Also present was media czar Ted Turner, billionaire founder of CNN who stated in a 1996 interview for the Audubon nature magazine, where he said that a 95% reduction of world population to between 225-300 million would be “ideal.” In a 2008 interview at Philadelphia’s Temple University, Turner fine-tuned the number to 2 billion, a cut of more than 70% from today’s population. Even less elegantly than Gates, Turner stated, “we have too many people. That’s why we have global warming. We need less people using less stuff (sic).”16
(Ted Turner, cited along with youTube video of Turner in Aaron Dykes, Ted Turner: World Needs a 'Voluntary' One-Child Policy for the Next Hundred Years, Jones Report.com, April 29, 2008.
Accessed here http://www.jonesreport.com/article/04_08/28turner_911.html)
Others attending this first meeting of the Good Club reportedly were: Eli Broad real estate billionaire, New York’s billionaire Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Wall Street billionaire and Council on Foreign Relations former head, Peter G. Peterson.
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, along with David Rockefeller’s Rockefeller Foundation, the creators of the GMO biotechnology, are also financing a project called The Alliance for a Green Revolution in Africa (AGRA) headed by former UN chief, Kofi Annan. Accepting the role as AGRA head in June 2007 Annan expressed his “gratitude to the Rockefeller Foundation, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and all others who support our African campaign.” The AGRA board is dominated by people from both the Gates’ and Rockefeller foundations.10
(10 Cited in F. William Engdahl, "Doomsday Seed Vault" in the Arctic: Bill Gates, Rockefeller and the GMO giants know something we don’t, Global Research, December 4, 2007, accessed here http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7529 )
Monsanto, DuPont, Dow, Syngenta and other major GMO agribusiness giants are reported at the heart of AGRA, using it as a back-door to spread their patented GMO seeds across Africa under the deceptive label, ‘bio-technology,’ a euphemism for genetically engineered patented seeds. The person from the Gates Foundation responsible for its work with AGRA is Dr. Robert Horsch, a 25-year Monsanto GMO veteran who was on the team that developed Monsanto’s RoundUp Ready GMO technologies. His job is reportedly to use Gates’ money to introduce GMO into Africa.11
(11 Mariam Mayet, Africa’s Green Revolution rolls out the Gene Revolution, African Centre for Biosafety, ACB Briefing Paper No. 6/2009, Melville, South Africa, April 2009.)
To date South Africa is the only African country permitting legal planting of GMO crops. In 2003 Burkina Faso authorized GMO trials. In 2005 Kofi Annan’s Ghana drafted bio-safety legislation and key officials expressed their intentions to pursue research into GMO crops. AGRA is being used to create networks of “agro-dealers” across Africa, at first with no mention of GMO seeds or herbicides, in order to have the infrastructure in place to massively introduce GMO.(Ibid)
GMO, glyphosate and population reduction
GMO crops have never been proven safe for human or animal consumption. Moreover, they are inherently genetically ‘unstable’ as they are an unnatural product of introducing a foreign bacteria such as Bacillus Thuringiensis (Bt) or other material into the DNA of a given seed to change its traits. Perhaps equally dangerous are the ‘paired’ chemical herbicides sold as a mandatory part of a GMO contract, such as Monsanto’s Roundup, the most widely used such herbicide in the world. It contains highly toxic glyphosate compounds that have been independently tested and proven to exist in toxic concentrations in GMO applications far above that safe for humans or animals. Tests show that tiny amounts of glyphosate compounds would do damage to a human umbilical, embryonic and placental cells in a pregnant woman drinking the ground water near a GMO field.13
(Nora Benachour and Gilles-Eric Seralini, Glyphosate Formulations Induce Apoptosis and Necrosis in Human Umbilical Embryonic, and Placental Cells, Chemical Research in Toxicology Journal, American Chemical Society, , (1), pp 97–105.)
One long-standing project of the US Government has been to perfect a genetically-modified variety of corn, the diet staple in Mexico and many other Latin American countries. The corn has been field tested in tests financed by the US Department of Agriculture along with a small California bio-tech company named Epicyte. Announcing his success at a 2001 press conference, the president of Epicyte, Mitch Hein, pointing to his GMO corn plants, announced, “We have a hothouse filled with corn plants that make anti-sperm antibodies.”14
(Robin McKie, GMO Corn Set to Stop Man Spreading His Seed, London, The Observer, 9 September 2001.)
Hein explained that they had taken antibodies from women with a rare condition known as immune infertility, isolated the genes that regulated the manufacture of those infertility antibodies, and, using genetic engineering techniques, had inserted the genes into ordinary corn seeds used to produce corn plants. In this manner, in reality they produced a concealed contraceptive embedded in corn meant for human consumption. “Essentially, the antibodies are attracted to surface receptors on the sperm,” said Hein. “They latch on and make each sperm so heavy it cannot move forward. It just shakes about as if it was doing the lambada.”15 Hein claimed it was a possible solution to world “over-population.” The moral and ethical issues of feeding it to humans in Third World poor countries without their knowing it countries he left out of his remarks.
(15 Ibid. McKie writes, “The pregnancy prevention plants are the handiwork of the San Diego biotechnology company Epicyte, where researchers have discovered a rare class of human antibodies that attack sperm…the company has created tiny horticultural factories that make contraceptives…Essentially, the antibodies are attracted to surface receptors on the sperm,” said Hein. “They latch on and make each sperm so heavy it cannot move forward. It just shakes about as if it was doing the lambada.”)
Spermicides hidden in GMO corn provided to starving Third World populations through the generosity of the Gates’ foundation, Rockefeller Foundation and Kofi Annan’s AGRA or vaccines that contain undisclosed sterilization agents are just two documented cases of using vaccines or GMO seeds to “reduce population.”
And the ‘Good Club’
Gates’ TED2010 speech on zero emissions and population reduction is consistent with a report that appeared in New York City’s ethnic media, Irish.Central.com in May 2009. According to the report, a secret meeting took place on May 5, 2009 at the home of Sir Paul Nurse, President of Rockefeller University, among some of the wealthiest people in America. Investment guru Warren Buffett who in 2006 decided to pool his $30 billion Buffett Foundation into the Gates foundation to create the world’s largest private foundation with some $60 billions of tax-free dollars was present. Banker David Rockefeller was the host.
The exclusive letter of invitation was signed by Gates, Rockefeller and Buffett. They decided to call themselves the “Good Club.” Also present was media czar Ted Turner, billionaire founder of CNN who stated in a 1996 interview for the Audubon nature magazine, where he said that a 95% reduction of world population to between 225-300 million would be “ideal.” In a 2008 interview at Philadelphia’s Temple University, Turner fine-tuned the number to 2 billion, a cut of more than 70% from today’s population. Even less elegantly than Gates, Turner stated, “we have too many people. That’s why we have global warming. We need less people using less stuff (sic).”16
(Ted Turner, cited along with youTube video of Turner in Aaron Dykes, Ted Turner: World Needs a 'Voluntary' One-Child Policy for the Next Hundred Years, Jones Report.com, April 29, 2008.
Accessed here http://www.jonesreport.com/article/04_08/28turner_911.html)
Others attending this first meeting of the Good Club reportedly were: Eli Broad real estate billionaire, New York’s billionaire Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Wall Street billionaire and Council on Foreign Relations former head, Peter G. Peterson.
31 May 2010 16:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Long but interesting talk for some,i am sore :)
By F. William Engdahl, 4 March 2010
Microsoft founder and one of the world’s wealthiest men, Bill Gates, projects an image of a benign philanthropist using his billions via his (tax exempt) Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, to tackle diseases, solve food shortages in Africa and alleviate poverty. In a recent conference in California, Gates reveals a less public agenda of his philanthropy―population reduction, otherwise known as eugenics.
Gates made his remarks to the invitation-only Long Beach, California TED2010 Conference, in a speech titled, “Innovating to Zero!.” Along with the scientifically absurd proposition of reducing manmade CO2 emissions worldwide to zero by 2050, approximately four and a half minutes into the talk, Gates declares, "First we got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent."1 (author’s emphasis).
In plain English, one of the most powerful men in the world states clearly that he expects vaccines to be used to reduce population growth. When Bill Gates speaks about vaccines, he speaks with authority. In January 2010 at the elite Davos World Economic Forum, Gates announced his foundation would give $10 billion (circa €7.5 billion) over the next decade to develop and deliver new vaccines to children in the developing world.
The primary focus of his multi-billion dollar Gates Foundation is vaccinations, especially in Africa and other underdeveloped countries. Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a founding member of the GAVI Alliance (Global Alliance for Vaccinations and Immunization) in partnership with the World Bank, WHO and the vaccine industry. The goal of GAVI is to vaccinate every newborn child in the developing world.2
(Telegraph.co.uk, Bill Gates makes $10 billion vaccine pledge, London Telegraph, January 29, 2010, accessed here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/davos/7106626/Bill-Gates-makes-10-billion-vaccine-pledge.html )
Now that sounds like noble philanthropic work. The problem is that the vaccine industry has been repeatedly caught dumping dangerous―meaning unsafe because untested or proven harmful―vaccines onto unwitting Third World populations when they cannot get rid of the vaccines in the West.3 (3 Louise Voller, Kristian Villesen, WHO Donates Millions of Doses of Surplus Medical Supplies to Developing countries, Danish Information, 22 December 2009, http://www.theflucase.com/ ) Some organizations have suggested that the true aim of the vaccinations is to make people sicker and even more susceptible to disease and premature death.
( One is the Population Research Institute in Washington http://pop.org/ )
Dumping toxins on the Third World
In the aftermath of the most recent unnecessary Pandemic declaration of a global H1N1 swine flu emergency, industrial countries were left sitting on hundreds of millions of doses of untested vaccines. They decided to get rid of the embarrassing leftover drugs by handing them over to the WHO which in turn plans to dump them for free on select poor countries. France has given 91 million of the 94 million doses the Sarkozy government bought from the pharma giants; Britain gave 55 million of its 60 million doses. The story for Germany and Norway is similar.( Louise Voller et al, op. cit. )
As Dr. Thomas Jefferson, an epidemiologist with the Cochrane Research Center in Rome noted, “Why do they give the vaccines to the developing countries at all? The pandemic has been called off in most parts of the world. The greatest threat in poor countries right now is heart and circulatory diseases while the virus figures at the bottom of the list. What is the medical reason for donating 180 million doses?” (Ibid) As well, flu is a minor problem in countries with abundant sunshine, and it turned out that the feared H1N1 Pandemic “new great plague” was the mildest flu on record.
The pharmaceutical vaccine makers do not speak about the enormous health damage from infant vaccination including autism and numerous neuro-muscular deformities that have been traced back to the toxic adjuvants and preservatives used in most vaccines. Many vaccines, especially multi-dose vaccines that are made more cheaply for sale to the Third World, contain something called Thimerosal (Thiomersol in the EU), a compound (sodium ethylmercurithiosalicylate), containing some 50% mercury, used as a preservative.
In July 1999 the US’ National Vaccine Information Center declared in a press release that, "The cumulative effects of ingesting mercury can cause brain damage." The same month, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) alerted the public about the possible health effects associated with thimerosal-containing vaccines. They strongly recommended that thimerosal be removed from vaccines as soon as possible. Under the directive of the FDA Modernization Act of 1997, the Food and Drug Administration also determined that infants who received several thimerosal-containing vaccines may be receiving mercury exposure over and above the recommended federal guidelines.7
( 7 Noted in Vaccinations and Autism, accessed here http://www.mercurypoisoningnews.com/vacautism.html )
A new form of eugenics?
Gates’ interest in inducing population reduction among black and other minority populations is not new unfortunately. As I document in my book, Seeds of Destruction8,(8 F. William Engdahl, Seeds of Destruction: The Hidden Agenda http://www.globalresearch.ca/ ) since the 1920’s the Rockefeller Foundation had funded the eugenics research in Germany through the Kaiser-Wilhelm Institutes in Berlin and Munich, including well into the Third Reich. They praised the forced sterilization of people by Hirtler Germany, and the Nazi ideas on race “purity.” It was John D. Rockefeller III, a life-long advocate of eugenics, who used his “tax free” foundation money to initiate the population reduction neo-Malthusian movement through his private Population Council in New York beginning in the 1950’s.
and his Rockefeller Foundation were involved as early as 1972 in a major project together with WHO and others to perfect another “new vaccine.”
The results of the WHO-Rockefeller project were put into mass application on human guinea pigs in the early 1990's. The WHO oversaw massive vaccination campaigns against tetanus in Nicaragua, Mexico and the Philippines. Comite Pro Vida de Mexico, a Roman Catholic lay organization, became suspicious of the motives behind the WHO program and decided to test numerous vials of the vaccine and found them to contain human Chorionic Gonadotrophin, or hCG. That was a curious component for a vaccine designed to protect people against lock-jaw arising from infection with rusty nail wounds or other contact with certain bacteria found in soil. The tetanus disease was indeed, also rather rare. It was also curious because hCG was a natural hormone needed to maintain a pregnancy. However, when combined with a tetanus toxoid carrier, it stimulated formation of antibodies against hCG, rendering a woman incapable of maintaining a pregnancy, a form of concealed abortion. Similar reports of vaccines laced with hCG hormones came from the Philippines and Nicaragua.9
( 9 James A. Miller, Are New Vaccines Laced With Birth-Control Drugs?, HLI Reports, Human Life International, Gaithersburg, Maryland; June-July 1995.
By F. William Engdahl, 4 March 2010
Microsoft founder and one of the world’s wealthiest men, Bill Gates, projects an image of a benign philanthropist using his billions via his (tax exempt) Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, to tackle diseases, solve food shortages in Africa and alleviate poverty. In a recent conference in California, Gates reveals a less public agenda of his philanthropy―population reduction, otherwise known as eugenics.
Gates made his remarks to the invitation-only Long Beach, California TED2010 Conference, in a speech titled, “Innovating to Zero!.” Along with the scientifically absurd proposition of reducing manmade CO2 emissions worldwide to zero by 2050, approximately four and a half minutes into the talk, Gates declares, "First we got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent."1 (author’s emphasis).
In plain English, one of the most powerful men in the world states clearly that he expects vaccines to be used to reduce population growth. When Bill Gates speaks about vaccines, he speaks with authority. In January 2010 at the elite Davos World Economic Forum, Gates announced his foundation would give $10 billion (circa €7.5 billion) over the next decade to develop and deliver new vaccines to children in the developing world.
The primary focus of his multi-billion dollar Gates Foundation is vaccinations, especially in Africa and other underdeveloped countries. Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a founding member of the GAVI Alliance (Global Alliance for Vaccinations and Immunization) in partnership with the World Bank, WHO and the vaccine industry. The goal of GAVI is to vaccinate every newborn child in the developing world.2
(Telegraph.co.uk, Bill Gates makes $10 billion vaccine pledge, London Telegraph, January 29, 2010, accessed here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/davos/7106626/Bill-Gates-makes-10-billion-vaccine-pledge.html )
Now that sounds like noble philanthropic work. The problem is that the vaccine industry has been repeatedly caught dumping dangerous―meaning unsafe because untested or proven harmful―vaccines onto unwitting Third World populations when they cannot get rid of the vaccines in the West.3 (3 Louise Voller, Kristian Villesen, WHO Donates Millions of Doses of Surplus Medical Supplies to Developing countries, Danish Information, 22 December 2009, http://www.theflucase.com/ ) Some organizations have suggested that the true aim of the vaccinations is to make people sicker and even more susceptible to disease and premature death.
( One is the Population Research Institute in Washington http://pop.org/ )
Dumping toxins on the Third World
In the aftermath of the most recent unnecessary Pandemic declaration of a global H1N1 swine flu emergency, industrial countries were left sitting on hundreds of millions of doses of untested vaccines. They decided to get rid of the embarrassing leftover drugs by handing them over to the WHO which in turn plans to dump them for free on select poor countries. France has given 91 million of the 94 million doses the Sarkozy government bought from the pharma giants; Britain gave 55 million of its 60 million doses. The story for Germany and Norway is similar.( Louise Voller et al, op. cit. )
As Dr. Thomas Jefferson, an epidemiologist with the Cochrane Research Center in Rome noted, “Why do they give the vaccines to the developing countries at all? The pandemic has been called off in most parts of the world. The greatest threat in poor countries right now is heart and circulatory diseases while the virus figures at the bottom of the list. What is the medical reason for donating 180 million doses?” (Ibid) As well, flu is a minor problem in countries with abundant sunshine, and it turned out that the feared H1N1 Pandemic “new great plague” was the mildest flu on record.
The pharmaceutical vaccine makers do not speak about the enormous health damage from infant vaccination including autism and numerous neuro-muscular deformities that have been traced back to the toxic adjuvants and preservatives used in most vaccines. Many vaccines, especially multi-dose vaccines that are made more cheaply for sale to the Third World, contain something called Thimerosal (Thiomersol in the EU), a compound (sodium ethylmercurithiosalicylate), containing some 50% mercury, used as a preservative.
In July 1999 the US’ National Vaccine Information Center declared in a press release that, "The cumulative effects of ingesting mercury can cause brain damage." The same month, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) alerted the public about the possible health effects associated with thimerosal-containing vaccines. They strongly recommended that thimerosal be removed from vaccines as soon as possible. Under the directive of the FDA Modernization Act of 1997, the Food and Drug Administration also determined that infants who received several thimerosal-containing vaccines may be receiving mercury exposure over and above the recommended federal guidelines.7
( 7 Noted in Vaccinations and Autism, accessed here http://www.mercurypoisoningnews.com/vacautism.html )
A new form of eugenics?
Gates’ interest in inducing population reduction among black and other minority populations is not new unfortunately. As I document in my book, Seeds of Destruction8,(8 F. William Engdahl, Seeds of Destruction: The Hidden Agenda http://www.globalresearch.ca/ ) since the 1920’s the Rockefeller Foundation had funded the eugenics research in Germany through the Kaiser-Wilhelm Institutes in Berlin and Munich, including well into the Third Reich. They praised the forced sterilization of people by Hirtler Germany, and the Nazi ideas on race “purity.” It was John D. Rockefeller III, a life-long advocate of eugenics, who used his “tax free” foundation money to initiate the population reduction neo-Malthusian movement through his private Population Council in New York beginning in the 1950’s.
and his Rockefeller Foundation were involved as early as 1972 in a major project together with WHO and others to perfect another “new vaccine.”
The results of the WHO-Rockefeller project were put into mass application on human guinea pigs in the early 1990's. The WHO oversaw massive vaccination campaigns against tetanus in Nicaragua, Mexico and the Philippines. Comite Pro Vida de Mexico, a Roman Catholic lay organization, became suspicious of the motives behind the WHO program and decided to test numerous vials of the vaccine and found them to contain human Chorionic Gonadotrophin, or hCG. That was a curious component for a vaccine designed to protect people against lock-jaw arising from infection with rusty nail wounds or other contact with certain bacteria found in soil. The tetanus disease was indeed, also rather rare. It was also curious because hCG was a natural hormone needed to maintain a pregnancy. However, when combined with a tetanus toxoid carrier, it stimulated formation of antibodies against hCG, rendering a woman incapable of maintaining a pregnancy, a form of concealed abortion. Similar reports of vaccines laced with hCG hormones came from the Philippines and Nicaragua.9
( 9 James A. Miller, Are New Vaccines Laced With Birth-Control Drugs?, HLI Reports, Human Life International, Gaithersburg, Maryland; June-July 1995.
31 May 2010 16:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
The qestion was irony ;)
Love the song, always good to bring it up again! :)
Love the song, always good to bring it up again! :)
30 May 2010 22:43
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's post.
naish
30 May 2010 22:10
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's post.
Kahevahel .. tulin ju just holladist ja venemaalt Systolt.. venemaal veel suured kahjud ka sain sisse :(
...seega yeah.. vist ei aja raha kokku nii palju enam kuna kliendid ikka koonerdavad veel vanade arvetega, üürist tuleb puudu muidu :D
Homme otsustan.
Sealt sadamast kui palju edasi tagasi maksab peokohta?
...seega yeah.. vist ei aja raha kokku nii palju enam kuna kliendid ikka koonerdavad veel vanade arvetega, üürist tuleb puudu muidu :D
Homme otsustan.
Sealt sadamast kui palju edasi tagasi maksab peokohta?
30 May 2010 21:43
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Wonderful! :))
Thanks Romik
Thanks Romik
30 May 2010 14:36
Margus Meigo commented on Raiko Aeaero's photo.
Pigem on probleem kui naine iga nädal kaalu vahib ja yritab üleliigsetest kilodest lahti saada sest muidu on "rõve"
... olles ise 55 kilo
... olles ise 55 kilo
28 May 2010 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on Raiko Aeaero's photo.
Kellegil pole midagi treenitud keha vastu :)
28 May 2010 19:29
Margus Meigo commented on Raiko Aeaero's photo.
Nuh, krt sedasi võib päris ära ehmatada kui riided seljast ära võtab. Salakaval värk
28 May 2010 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on Raiko Aeaero's photo.
Not bad at all... at all .)
Okey, sellele tagumisele tegelt kuluks paar head kõhutäit ära :P
Okey, sellele tagumisele tegelt kuluks paar head kõhutäit ära :P
28 May 2010 03:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(reported,fixed some typos)
& for God shake, lets say that the farry tale is true, that gov does not abuse their power & will not put down them who questions their corruption or other deals (biz whit the terrorisers example, as if they do not do their work then people are not scared & in line, if people are not scared then world largest money maker - weapon manufactor can not make money.. - for starters. & ofcourse.. with the help of media & black ops you do not even need real terroraizers but they do come really handy sometimes, saves a lot of work & money for goverments. bdw - i got banned once from facebook for posting black ops fake cia terrorist pictures up here... (look under my screen pic))
Mostly gov needs to keep peoples mind busy so they will not start to think for their self or discover that all this is actually illusion anyways...
But anyway, lets say Gov does it so they can protect YOU for bad terrorisers (who you know attack your country ALL the time, specially these million muslims who live in USA).
bdw You do know that every kid can make a bomb out of freely available home cleaning cemicals, if they want to right?
but anyway, are you not concerned, that every 13 years old smart hacker can access many of the databases & systems? & sale it to anyone he wants? Do you trust all your private life to these punks & criminals? Because i know personally people who can access many of these systems & they do not work for government. Turning on your phone microphone to listen when you have sex is not anything special & its really old tecnolagy but there is a lot more interesting things that gov can do - & so can many many hackers, private compaies & organisations & politcal partyes. Communist & far right people. Money talks
This also means you can not use your email or phone to make private business appointments .. or share business secrets.. as all this information can be stolen easily. Posibilities are limitless. Its enough if there is only small % of corrupted police or gov workers so that almost any so called terrorist or criminal can access virtually and system (that is not infected already with spyware from china, or is not using outdated windows os) or database that can really mess up your life - if they want. The problem is, that things like that do not go to news. There is also special laws form Sam that prevent these things to be public as its bad image for military supperpower.
Subject is actually complicated and so large, it would be impossible to enlighten anyone here like this - so that's why so many cartoonish & simplistic examples. The reality is much more complicated, worst & sounds so much more like fiction. But i do not own language capability to go in to this + it would be a bit time waster as these who want they understand, others are happy with American/European dream (as you need to be in sleep to belive in it).
But do not get my wrong, i sleep peasefully in every night & talk openly - but for other reasons... ;)
& for God shake, lets say that the farry tale is true, that gov does not abuse their power & will not put down them who questions their corruption or other deals (biz whit the terrorisers example, as if they do not do their work then people are not scared & in line, if people are not scared then world largest money maker - weapon manufactor can not make money.. - for starters. & ofcourse.. with the help of media & black ops you do not even need real terroraizers but they do come really handy sometimes, saves a lot of work & money for goverments. bdw - i got banned once from facebook for posting black ops fake cia terrorist pictures up here... (look under my screen pic))
Mostly gov needs to keep peoples mind busy so they will not start to think for their self or discover that all this is actually illusion anyways...
But anyway, lets say Gov does it so they can protect YOU for bad terrorisers (who you know attack your country ALL the time, specially these million muslims who live in USA).
bdw You do know that every kid can make a bomb out of freely available home cleaning cemicals, if they want to right?
but anyway, are you not concerned, that every 13 years old smart hacker can access many of the databases & systems? & sale it to anyone he wants? Do you trust all your private life to these punks & criminals? Because i know personally people who can access many of these systems & they do not work for government. Turning on your phone microphone to listen when you have sex is not anything special & its really old tecnolagy but there is a lot more interesting things that gov can do - & so can many many hackers, private compaies & organisations & politcal partyes. Communist & far right people. Money talks
This also means you can not use your email or phone to make private business appointments .. or share business secrets.. as all this information can be stolen easily. Posibilities are limitless. Its enough if there is only small % of corrupted police or gov workers so that almost any so called terrorist or criminal can access virtually and system (that is not infected already with spyware from china, or is not using outdated windows os) or database that can really mess up your life - if they want. The problem is, that things like that do not go to news. There is also special laws form Sam that prevent these things to be public as its bad image for military supperpower.
Subject is actually complicated and so large, it would be impossible to enlighten anyone here like this - so that's why so many cartoonish & simplistic examples. The reality is much more complicated, worst & sounds so much more like fiction. But i do not own language capability to go in to this + it would be a bit time waster as these who want they understand, others are happy with American/European dream (as you need to be in sleep to belive in it).
But do not get my wrong, i sleep peasefully in every night & talk openly - but for other reasons... ;)
27 May 2010 12:12
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
Well, as i told "influence " not converting :D
bdw, the wall is working again :))
bdw, the wall is working again :))
27 May 2010 03:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
once more the links:
Sir Ken Robinson: Do schools kill creativity?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG9CE55wbtY
Sir Ken Robinson on Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWJdCzgtFTo
Riz Khan - Ken Robinson - 3 March 09
Part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cod5az5EcX0
Part2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV-QxCPJe1A
Sir Ken Robinson - Changing Paradigms RSA (55 min)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCbdS4hSa0s
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3940706220655777519
Ken Robinson - The Element (39 min)
Robinson returns to the RSA to share new thinking on 'The Element' - the point at which natural talent meets personal passion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TAqSBMZDY8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCdmLV_xY9Y
Sir Ken Robinson, Hammer Lectures (1h. 23min)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJAL21IE9fY
Sir Ken Robinson: A New View of Human Capacity ( 1h. 28min)
http://fora.tv/2009/01/29/Sir_Ken_Robinson_A_New_View_of_Human_Capacity
Sir Ken Robinson and "Born to Run" author Christopher McDougall on The Kathleen Show (1h. 25 min)
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/4798942
Creativity expert Ken Robinson talks to the ABC's Kerry O'Brien on the current system of education
Ken Robinson - part 1
http://vimeo.com/8299035
Ken Robinson - part 2
http://vimeo.com/8298192
Ken Robinson reprise at Creative Company Conference
http://vimeo.com/4883376
Sir Ken Robinson at Creative Company Conference in Amsterdam
http://vimeo.com/4863000
Sir Ken Robinson - Collaboration in the 21st Century
http://vimeo.com/10782711
'
Armchair Interview Sir Ken Robinson (22min)
http://vimeo.com/6253453
CM001 Sir Ken Robinson | Creative Momentum
http://vimeo.com/3553704
CM23 Sir Ken Robinson talks about the diversity of Intelligence
http://vimeo.com/5986720
Sir Ken Robinson
http://vimeo.com/10220880
Sir Ken Robinson Welcome Video
http://vimeo.com/9074751
Sir Ken Robinson: Do schools kill creativity?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG9CE55wbtY
Sir Ken Robinson on Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWJdCzgtFTo
Riz Khan - Ken Robinson - 3 March 09
Part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cod5az5EcX0
Part2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV-QxCPJe1A
Sir Ken Robinson - Changing Paradigms RSA (55 min)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCbdS4hSa0s
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3940706220655777519
Ken Robinson - The Element (39 min)
Robinson returns to the RSA to share new thinking on 'The Element' - the point at which natural talent meets personal passion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TAqSBMZDY8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCdmLV_xY9Y
Sir Ken Robinson, Hammer Lectures (1h. 23min)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJAL21IE9fY
Sir Ken Robinson: A New View of Human Capacity ( 1h. 28min)
http://fora.tv/2009/01/29/Sir_Ken_Robinson_A_New_View_of_Human_Capacity
Sir Ken Robinson and "Born to Run" author Christopher McDougall on The Kathleen Show (1h. 25 min)
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/4798942
Creativity expert Ken Robinson talks to the ABC's Kerry O'Brien on the current system of education
Ken Robinson - part 1
http://vimeo.com/8299035
Ken Robinson - part 2
http://vimeo.com/8298192
Ken Robinson reprise at Creative Company Conference
http://vimeo.com/4883376
Sir Ken Robinson at Creative Company Conference in Amsterdam
http://vimeo.com/4863000
Sir Ken Robinson - Collaboration in the 21st Century
http://vimeo.com/10782711
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Armchair Interview Sir Ken Robinson (22min)
http://vimeo.com/6253453
CM001 Sir Ken Robinson | Creative Momentum
http://vimeo.com/3553704
CM23 Sir Ken Robinson talks about the diversity of Intelligence
http://vimeo.com/5986720
Sir Ken Robinson
http://vimeo.com/10220880
Sir Ken Robinson Welcome Video
http://vimeo.com/9074751
27 May 2010 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Teresa - this is what the documents say - they just in case wiretrap a LOT of people (many coptris most) as harddrive space is pretty much limitless. If you read UK thing then you see that they want to just in case monitor almost everything. NSA alone has ower 2 TRILLION phone calls in database. you think these are between terrorists? You do not need people to work with these things, computers have intelligent algorithm for selecting words out from your phone calls or emails and send them thru filters. It's not so limited as in was in old Germany or soviet union times. & we know computers make errors, but new law's say that once you have labeled as "terrorist" then you have NO rights, and they can hide you for however long they want - no one needs to be notified. It's actual law but it go's more deep.
The thing is, it's easy to say "if you are not terrorist, what you care, just obey the law and do everything your country tells you, just be a sheep white out voice and everything gos well".
its extremely selfish and careless to say anything like that (to say it nicely). As you know people are different and like different things but most gov make it crime to be a different. Everyone knows storeys from the history when people was burned or beated for committing a crime of having different ideas & now we think of them as great minds - back then they was considered as terrorists and public enemy. & no one manages to bring parallels.
ONLY thing people have learned from history is that they haven't learned from history. Whatever period you go back - still same story. what golden age the 21st century is that it has been stoped? Gov mind & population control capabilities are SO much more advanced now.
The trick is to keep people think they are free as its easy to work with people who believe they have freedoms. They don't. ALL of them can removed whit in second if Sam needs it. It's a law.. Go ask from japanese who was living in america when harbor was attacked. How much they felt blessed with these illusive freedoms? (jes jes, i know damn axis of evil japanese, all of them work directly for satan himself). But back then the laws was really soft comparing the ones they have now. The package is just much nicer.
Other trick is to take rights away with really complicated legislation's and piece by piece. Now it seems they even do not care about that as most of population is more interested about Paris hilton or how well war on terror go's ( in intelligent level most of the time not to much a different issues if one cares to look how much people know about for what their country fights for).
i will not start to remind you old "if you exchange your freedom for security then.." as you know it yourself.
The thing is, it's easy to say "if you are not terrorist, what you care, just obey the law and do everything your country tells you, just be a sheep white out voice and everything gos well".
its extremely selfish and careless to say anything like that (to say it nicely). As you know people are different and like different things but most gov make it crime to be a different. Everyone knows storeys from the history when people was burned or beated for committing a crime of having different ideas & now we think of them as great minds - back then they was considered as terrorists and public enemy. & no one manages to bring parallels.
ONLY thing people have learned from history is that they haven't learned from history. Whatever period you go back - still same story. what golden age the 21st century is that it has been stoped? Gov mind & population control capabilities are SO much more advanced now.
The trick is to keep people think they are free as its easy to work with people who believe they have freedoms. They don't. ALL of them can removed whit in second if Sam needs it. It's a law.. Go ask from japanese who was living in america when harbor was attacked. How much they felt blessed with these illusive freedoms? (jes jes, i know damn axis of evil japanese, all of them work directly for satan himself). But back then the laws was really soft comparing the ones they have now. The package is just much nicer.
Other trick is to take rights away with really complicated legislation's and piece by piece. Now it seems they even do not care about that as most of population is more interested about Paris hilton or how well war on terror go's ( in intelligent level most of the time not to much a different issues if one cares to look how much people know about for what their country fights for).
i will not start to remind you old "if you exchange your freedom for security then.." as you know it yourself.
27 May 2010 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(arrh, typos, i post it 3th time :D)
No, i do not prefer anarchy as it will not work with earth people (i think).
But IF i have option between total police state that has power to control every my action & thought. Who will prison one for exploring hes mind or not accepting the illusions that others accept.. & between anarchy .. well. Then yeah, for ME personally anarchy would work better but not for most other things, it would probably end up to be destructive as most people are fucked up species imho.. or at least their consciousness is messed up..
I would be actually okey with many police state technology if their after control would be totally dynamic & random. Not by elected people who have managed to get special access as they sold their soul :P
I am not afraid the terroraizers as for me there is not difference between religious nut who will blow my up if i draw Mohamed or fanatic militarist (among others). Most of the War on terrorizers & war on drugs is illusion for other reasons anywayz so.. so yeah.
:)
& i am almost okey for now... i just share the news & try to wake up as many as long i can :)
No, i do not prefer anarchy as it will not work with earth people (i think).
But IF i have option between total police state that has power to control every my action & thought. Who will prison one for exploring hes mind or not accepting the illusions that others accept.. & between anarchy .. well. Then yeah, for ME personally anarchy would work better but not for most other things, it would probably end up to be destructive as most people are fucked up species imho.. or at least their consciousness is messed up..
I would be actually okey with many police state technology if their after control would be totally dynamic & random. Not by elected people who have managed to get special access as they sold their soul :P
I am not afraid the terroraizers as for me there is not difference between religious nut who will blow my up if i draw Mohamed or fanatic militarist (among others). Most of the War on terrorizers & war on drugs is illusion for other reasons anywayz so.. so yeah.
:)
& i am almost okey for now... i just share the news & try to wake up as many as long i can :)
27 May 2010 00:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://static.rnw.nl/migratie/www.radionetherlands.nl/features/amsterdamforum/060910af-redirected
The panellists:
Rick van Amersfoort - from the Dutch research institute Jansen & Janssen
Simon Hania - the Technical Director of the Dutch public Internet provider XS4ALL
The programme also features comments from Sybrand van Haarsma Buma - a Member of Parliament for the governing coalition party, the CDA.
The panellists:
Rick van Amersfoort - from the Dutch research institute Jansen & Janssen
Simon Hania - the Technical Director of the Dutch public Internet provider XS4ALL
The programme also features comments from Sybrand van Haarsma Buma - a Member of Parliament for the governing coalition party, the CDA.
26 May 2010 23:50
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Simon's photo.
Üli äge! :))
26 May 2010 23:36
Margus Meigo commented on Hugh T Alkemi's post.
Thank you! Let's keep connected :)
24 May 2010 13:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I have basically all Allan recordings (many many days worth of material) - so if one is interested, let me know :)
http://matrixmasters.net/archive/Various/ - here is more other various mp3's
http://matrixmasters.net/archive/Various/ - here is more other various mp3's
24 May 2010 03:41
Margus Meigo commented on Sounds of Aliens's post.
Njeah, nahaalid un nahaalid.
See päris kena @ Riri. Kui ma 7k venemaal poleks petta saanud eelmine nädal siis mul oleks ka olnud plaan osta kaunistusi kodu ja väljalaenamise jaoks... kuid yeah, will let u know kui ma endale miskit muretsen peale väikest taastumis perjoodi :)
See päris kena @ Riri. Kui ma 7k venemaal poleks petta saanud eelmine nädal siis mul oleks ka olnud plaan osta kaunistusi kodu ja väljalaenamise jaoks... kuid yeah, will let u know kui ma endale miskit muretsen peale väikest taastumis perjoodi :)
23 May 2010 21:54
Margus Meigo commented on Sounds of Aliens's post.
Ei ole võimalik... arrh!
Kuidas nii suuri asju kellegil oli võimalik ültse pihta panna seinalt? anyway... loodame, et on kuskil, suht sick mõelda, et sellised inimesed sellistel pidudel selleks käivad et seal selliseid tegusi korda saata :(
Loodame, et imbub välja kuskilt
Kuidas nii suuri asju kellegil oli võimalik ültse pihta panna seinalt? anyway... loodame, et on kuskil, suht sick mõelda, et sellised inimesed sellistel pidudel selleks käivad et seal selliseid tegusi korda saata :(
Loodame, et imbub välja kuskilt
23 May 2010 17:59
Margus Meigo commented on Fahmi King King's post.
. Hey Hey fighter, i'm good. How you doing?
Good luck with competitions :))
Good luck with competitions :))
23 May 2010 17:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ram Dass On Attachment And Addiction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3ixRqOauq4
About "Death" with Ram Dass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k2K9rJ2kBU
Ram Dass on Change
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caFYnhaHJrc
Ram Dass "God's Perception"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJnQVxIfvbc
Ram Dass on Suffering and Karma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV9cXKHkX34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3ixRqOauq4
About "Death" with Ram Dass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k2K9rJ2kBU
Ram Dass on Change
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caFYnhaHJrc
Ram Dass "God's Perception"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJnQVxIfvbc
Ram Dass on Suffering and Karma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV9cXKHkX34
23 May 2010 13:28
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
No problems, dont worry :)
23 May 2010 00:43
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
No darling...
23 May 2010 00:43
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
No i dont :)
22 May 2010 11:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
You are fng kidding me right??
http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/267114
"WE APOLOGIZE THAT SOUTH PARK STUDIOS CANNOT STREAM THIS EPISODE"
http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/267116
"WE APOLOGIZE THAT SHOUT PARK STUDIOS CANNOT STREAM EPISODE 201 AT THIS TIME. AFTER WE DELIVERED THE SHOW, AND PRIOR TO BROADCAST, COMEDY CENTRAL PLACED NUMEROUS ADDITIONAL AUDIO BLEEPS THROUGHT THE EPISODE. WE DO NOT HAVE NETWORK APROVAL TO STREAM OUR ORIGINAL VERSION OF THE SHOW"
this is our freedom of speech & expression ? You balles corporate biches @ TV network & sponsors. Not blaiming the South Park studio - they cant do much alone...
Okey... you ask for it
http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/267114
"WE APOLOGIZE THAT SOUTH PARK STUDIOS CANNOT STREAM THIS EPISODE"
http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/267116
"WE APOLOGIZE THAT SHOUT PARK STUDIOS CANNOT STREAM EPISODE 201 AT THIS TIME. AFTER WE DELIVERED THE SHOW, AND PRIOR TO BROADCAST, COMEDY CENTRAL PLACED NUMEROUS ADDITIONAL AUDIO BLEEPS THROUGHT THE EPISODE. WE DO NOT HAVE NETWORK APROVAL TO STREAM OUR ORIGINAL VERSION OF THE SHOW"
this is our freedom of speech & expression ? You balles corporate biches @ TV network & sponsors. Not blaiming the South Park studio - they cant do much alone...
Okey... you ask for it
21 May 2010 14:43
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
i manually delete almoust all the references to my writings after every post or end of the day
bt you can limit your wall access only to friends, or only to special list & then add people to this list (or you can make list where is people that you do not want access )
bt you can limit your wall access only to friends, or only to special list & then add people to this list (or you can make list where is people that you do not want access )
21 May 2010 11:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"WikiLeaks works to expose government secrets, but Web site's sources are a mystery"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/19/AR2010051905333.html
"about 30 times a day, someone submits a sensitive document to this cyber-whistleblower to be posted online for all to see. Politicians' private e-mails, secret CIA reports, corporate memos, surveillance video -- all have been fair game. "
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/19/AR2010051905333.html
"about 30 times a day, someone submits a sensitive document to this cyber-whistleblower to be posted online for all to see. Politicians' private e-mails, secret CIA reports, corporate memos, surveillance video -- all have been fair game. "
20 May 2010 20:49
Margus Meigo commented on Wikileaks's link.
Keep up the work :))
20 May 2010 20:01
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
I reccomend to set up special friend lists - the "limited lists" or the "access to most" lists (name them how you want) & then set the privacy settings to these lists.
I personally try to keep it as open as possible but i do have also limited lists + ignore list for people who spend time only with fishwille & whit other useless crap. I have about 35+ diferent lists to be exact :P
I personally try to keep it as open as possible but i do have also limited lists + ignore list for people who spend time only with fishwille & whit other useless crap. I have about 35+ diferent lists to be exact :P
20 May 2010 01:22
Margus Meigo commented on Eva Booyaka's post.
& why did you not enjoy it before?
20 May 2010 01:15
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
... but to influence someone's life is not wrong thing necessarily ... as most people have no idea where and for what they live. ... actually i think it's a MUST
but it's just my philosophy
but it's just my philosophy
19 May 2010 23:23
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
(K)
Thats good :)
Greetings & huggs to Liza also :)
Thats good :)
Greetings & huggs to Liza also :)
19 May 2010 23:20
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
(i hope people still are okey with irony..)
19 May 2010 18:33
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Really?! We had no idea...
19 May 2010 18:28
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Brendan: you say it as it is :)
19 May 2010 16:09
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
LoL, i usually choose to run forward to the direction of problems - it's more fun / interesting like this. I call it investigative life style, some calls it insanity - truth might be somewhere between :)
& hey.. i do not think even kids run away from the problems more often then most adults. Even worst, most adults make a fake face that there is ... See Moreno problem, fooling themselves & others around them. Mostly themself.
Yes mental grow is important but.. well who makes the standard for what kind of mental education is the good one? & good for what? Good for who ? Who picks all the golden apples? Usually not the average educated obedient society worker who does all the work - may it then be mental or physical work.
Hmm... & are we really talking abou me here or we talking about globally? As i noticed many "you"s there so i start to feel a bit wierd.... even thought i cant directly relate. Explain/clarify your statments please :P
& hey.. i do not think even kids run away from the problems more often then most adults. Even worst, most adults make a fake face that there is ... See Moreno problem, fooling themselves & others around them. Mostly themself.
Yes mental grow is important but.. well who makes the standard for what kind of mental education is the good one? & good for what? Good for who ? Who picks all the golden apples? Usually not the average educated obedient society worker who does all the work - may it then be mental or physical work.
Hmm... & are we really talking abou me here or we talking about globally? As i noticed many "you"s there so i start to feel a bit wierd.... even thought i cant directly relate. Explain/clarify your statments please :P
19 May 2010 12:17
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
Nope, not anymore...
.. i was just curious :)
.. i was just curious :)
19 May 2010 12:11
Margus Meigo commented on Zach Leary's link.
Nice tool :)
18 May 2010 19:52
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
( oh, lol , sorry, i was thinking you was talking about Methadone not Mephedrone, speed reading mistakes :P )
This sucker is jep.. dangerous replasement for many newbies.
This sucker is jep.. dangerous replasement for many newbies.
18 May 2010 17:38
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Well, agree again with last part.
But looking these millions of depressed and mindless people i seriously can not agree, that if they would administrate psychedelics safely couple of times they would be worst off.
OF COURSE there is some people who should keep off from these things, or use it only carefully monitored safe spiritual/medical settings in small amounts.. but in the end, these drugs are here to help man kind imho. Most of the drugs are really beneficial one or other way - even the ones i deeply hate. If you belie in intelligent design then you as intelligent person should make up the mind - why they are here? We are even managed to turn one of the deadliest doxins to extremely helpful medicines...
If mushrooms would be legal & labeled then people would be able to choose mushrooms that really really safe, the "joke mushrooms" they cal it, not for tripping or visuals. I just cant imagine how anyone possible would be able to loose mind on these. ... there only could be bad reaction if anyone is so stupid and uses medicine/antidepressants etc + psychedelics... this can have really bad results for many.
bdw, Thank you to endure my bad grammar as i have newer learned properly any English, but i should as i can see, to keep up the debates & conversations :)
But looking these millions of depressed and mindless people i seriously can not agree, that if they would administrate psychedelics safely couple of times they would be worst off.
OF COURSE there is some people who should keep off from these things, or use it only carefully monitored safe spiritual/medical settings in small amounts.. but in the end, these drugs are here to help man kind imho. Most of the drugs are really beneficial one or other way - even the ones i deeply hate. If you belie in intelligent design then you as intelligent person should make up the mind - why they are here? We are even managed to turn one of the deadliest doxins to extremely helpful medicines...
If mushrooms would be legal & labeled then people would be able to choose mushrooms that really really safe, the "joke mushrooms" they cal it, not for tripping or visuals. I just cant imagine how anyone possible would be able to loose mind on these. ... there only could be bad reaction if anyone is so stupid and uses medicine/antidepressants etc + psychedelics... this can have really bad results for many.
bdw, Thank you to endure my bad grammar as i have newer learned properly any English, but i should as i can see, to keep up the debates & conversations :)
18 May 2010 17:28
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Now you are talking like intelligent person, keep it up :))
18 May 2010 17:12
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
I have administrated first timers many different drugs from cannabis to mushrooms & ALL of their lives are now WAY better, none of them are addicted to anything (except some to sigarettes) & they are thanksful for me.
So maybe there is some really bad blood running around around you if people go insane after using mariuana or mushrooms
So maybe there is some really bad blood running around around you if people go insane after using mariuana or mushrooms
18 May 2010 17:08
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
So how can you compare heroing and & psycedellics? You do know the fundamental diferences right?
& you comapre methadone to MDMA??!! are you serious or was this a lame joke? Maybe next you copare casoline with mushrooms.
The friend who took mushrooms... was he prepared right first time? Did he take first small dose? Was there sober friends or other experienced people around to help first timers?
Sorry, but i NEWER ever belive that situation is so dramatic even if you dismiss half of the saftey. & if it was true these people would have found their kill anyway from any other substance. Thousands of people go mad and kill themself every year white out any drugs... im holland, 4 million+ doeses every year, 10 years was taken - really really microscopic % was afected badly. & all was ended thanks for one EMO kid & religion & lunatic goverment... now criminals are back @ selling drugs white out any saftey instructions.
& you comapre methadone to MDMA??!! are you serious or was this a lame joke? Maybe next you copare casoline with mushrooms.
The friend who took mushrooms... was he prepared right first time? Did he take first small dose? Was there sober friends or other experienced people around to help first timers?
Sorry, but i NEWER ever belive that situation is so dramatic even if you dismiss half of the saftey. & if it was true these people would have found their kill anyway from any other substance. Thousands of people go mad and kill themself every year white out any drugs... im holland, 4 million+ doeses every year, 10 years was taken - really really microscopic % was afected badly. & all was ended thanks for one EMO kid & religion & lunatic goverment... now criminals are back @ selling drugs white out any saftey instructions.
18 May 2010 17:06
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Biggest danger about drugs are that our goverment made them illegal, give the business to criminals (so they are not pure) & is not educating us how to use what drugs, do you agree or not?
18 May 2010 16:56
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
it's like the "my friend friend told me that hes friend jump of the window on LSD" story, everyone has heard it but its SUPPER hard to find people who actually got killed becouse of LSD ... if there WOULD be 10 people per year who kill themself becouse of LSD then it would be still one of the safest drugs (i am not sayng it is, as human own mind is dangerous, specially if it's in the box and the lid is open first time)...
18 May 2010 16:54
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
(for reply to one of your firsts posts) & i am not sayng that you lie for "greater good" but i also have seen so many propagandists who tell about theyr imaginary friends who suffer from all the drugs and that they have "tryed it all & it was first fun and then so bad" ... but when one starts to look more deeply comes out that most of the time it's just lie for "greater good" to suck people in to religion or off drugs. Some of them actually really belive they make good like this... some know better that they benefit from this...
as i told, IMHO - means, in my humble oppinion so you are free to belive whatever reallty you want. Oppinion is like ass - everyone has one and everyone thinks the other one is stinking.
- the last comnet is no way meant to be as attack :)
as i told, IMHO - means, in my humble oppinion so you are free to belive whatever reallty you want. Oppinion is like ass - everyone has one and everyone thinks the other one is stinking.
- the last comnet is no way meant to be as attack :)
18 May 2010 16:51
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
so you do agree that alcohol is legal and is whorst right? & in some time you are against psycdellics? Do you knwo that most people who use psycdellic start to drink WAY less or stop drinking & most other hard drugs all togheter?
There is sucessful drug threatment centres that fix people up with psycedellic.
So you, as one who cares about people SHOULD reccomend people to use psycedellics - or at least to ALL these who use alcohol... :)
There is sucessful drug threatment centres that fix people up with psycedellic.
So you, as one who cares about people SHOULD reccomend people to use psycedellics - or at least to ALL these who use alcohol... :)
18 May 2010 16:51
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
The drug situation would be so much better, if goverment would stp dealing with criminals and would start to regulate the drugs. Its for drug dealers intrest to keep drugs illegal so they can have no relulation and all the proffit.
Nothing wrong whit most drugs, they are perficly fine - people are fucked up
Nothing wrong whit most drugs, they are perficly fine - people are fucked up
18 May 2010 16:44
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Religion IS so corrupted and criminal its hard to corrupt it more my friend, and you know it :)
18 May 2010 16:41
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
James, Well whatever you believe - imho biblical god has not so much connection to reality on this level as you deeply believe.
God might be love but biblical god has not much love, its more based on fear and punishment if you do not love him.
& i also think most bible readers have NO respect for God whatsoever. They think god is so minimalistic, ignorant and narrow minded that he cares what kind of haircut one has (why jesus can have long hair but we cant?wtf), if one masturbates or does wrong things on wrong day. God does not care if you go to church or not and compare your clothing every Sunday. God does not care if you read bible or if you are thinking nonsense like Jesus is coming back.
It same go's for Koran readers - start respect the God & if you have balls then please stop this criminal activity in Vatican, protecting child rapests - i do not think it was in God master plan for human race in this rock.
God might be love but biblical god has not much love, its more based on fear and punishment if you do not love him.
& i also think most bible readers have NO respect for God whatsoever. They think god is so minimalistic, ignorant and narrow minded that he cares what kind of haircut one has (why jesus can have long hair but we cant?wtf), if one masturbates or does wrong things on wrong day. God does not care if you go to church or not and compare your clothing every Sunday. God does not care if you read bible or if you are thinking nonsense like Jesus is coming back.
It same go's for Koran readers - start respect the God & if you have balls then please stop this criminal activity in Vatican, protecting child rapests - i do not think it was in God master plan for human race in this rock.
18 May 2010 16:35
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Well, you should take time to explain your views and start with this: are you religious? Yes you are i guess.
You have been told by religious teachers that this will open up you for all evil? Yes you have probably. As this SAME fear that you have i have heard from so many other religious people.
But anyway... do not just tell us that you think he is out of the mind.. tell us step by step what & why u disagree, like intelligent person.
First question to you: would God want us to be intelligent & why curch (not so much avarage religious or deepli spiritual/religious person who is not connected to curch power structure) afraids psycedellics most?
You have been told by religious teachers that this will open up you for all evil? Yes you have probably. As this SAME fear that you have i have heard from so many other religious people.
But anyway... do not just tell us that you think he is out of the mind.. tell us step by step what & why u disagree, like intelligent person.
First question to you: would God want us to be intelligent & why curch (not so much avarage religious or deepli spiritual/religious person who is not connected to curch power structure) afraids psycedellics most?
18 May 2010 16:22
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
There is many things one can say against Larry but most things he says in this video are so strong, true and absolutelly critical for our intelligent evolution that one must live in really strong box to not understand it
18 May 2010 12:30
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
I demand access to your wall :P
(just kidding)
(just kidding)
18 May 2010 12:06
Margus Meigo commented on Karin Kiplok's post.
Tänud :))
Jup, ma varzti lykkan ylesse ... kuigih mah yber laizc & vabsjee ei viidzi. (vähemalth) Eelmizeh pooledeiseh aastah pilduskad koik täitsah ylesse lükkamatah ... päriz pornosi (koike korragah) kah eip taha ylesse lykata ju :P
Jup, ma varzti lykkan ylesse ... kuigih mah yber laizc & vabsjee ei viidzi. (vähemalth) Eelmizeh pooledeiseh aastah pilduskad koik täitsah ylesse lükkamatah ... päriz pornosi (koike korragah) kah eip taha ylesse lykata ju :P
18 May 2010 10:08
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
LOL, me, grown up? Ha! Newer! :D
No really, word "grown up" is (IMHO) mostly for people who try to find excuses to not have any/some(kind) of fun in life or limit them self or others one or other way. Mostly because theyre own life sucks so they feel a need to make it as shitty for others as possible. Not intentionally ofcourse.. not most of the time..
"uuh... i should NOT do that because I'm grown up" ...
"now i MUST do that, because i am grown up" ...
"i should not have pure limitless fun as i am grown up... " ... "now is time to get job, even if it's creativity killing boring job that depresses hell out from one, as this what adults do, u now - to keep going oooon "
& of course the classic one "now is time to go to military & start learn how to kill other people because you are not a kid anymore, you become a man, this what man do ... the terrorizes will come any minute:P!"
fuck ALL that! :))
people minds are shaped like lines & boxes... most things around us is damn lines & boxes ... & then we make up imaginary ones: here is a line you should cross... little bit more... a bit more.. yes & you are almost there... YESS! you crossed it, NOW you are not a kid anymore! you are.. adult?! Congratulations!
Wtf is that, this is stupid.
- this is my today's morning emotion. :))
Now i think i paint my face & go run naked outside with swim rubber duck a little to scare hell out of everyday working class heroes :D
No really, word "grown up" is (IMHO) mostly for people who try to find excuses to not have any/some(kind) of fun in life or limit them self or others one or other way. Mostly because theyre own life sucks so they feel a need to make it as shitty for others as possible. Not intentionally ofcourse.. not most of the time..
"uuh... i should NOT do that because I'm grown up" ...
"now i MUST do that, because i am grown up" ...
"i should not have pure limitless fun as i am grown up... " ... "now is time to get job, even if it's creativity killing boring job that depresses hell out from one, as this what adults do, u now - to keep going oooon "
& of course the classic one "now is time to go to military & start learn how to kill other people because you are not a kid anymore, you become a man, this what man do ... the terrorizes will come any minute:P!"
fuck ALL that! :))
people minds are shaped like lines & boxes... most things around us is damn lines & boxes ... & then we make up imaginary ones: here is a line you should cross... little bit more... a bit more.. yes & you are almost there... YESS! you crossed it, NOW you are not a kid anymore! you are.. adult?! Congratulations!
Wtf is that, this is stupid.
- this is my today's morning emotion. :))
Now i think i paint my face & go run naked outside with swim rubber duck a little to scare hell out of everyday working class heroes :D
18 May 2010 09:59
Margus Meigo commented on Silvi Kõiv's post.
Tänud :))
17 May 2010 20:18
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
I still havent managed to go there... i will put it to my priorty list :)
17 May 2010 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Simon's post.
damn.. i will see what i can do
17 May 2010 14:42
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Simon's post.
Vaatab... mul väikest patt materjali offmanni laborist peax käepärast olema mingi aeg.. it will be nice :)
Millal lahkud?
Millal lahkud?
17 May 2010 14:36
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
Well, i was holding my self back a lot for dif. reasons... but i think next time .. well, let's see ;)
then again.. sometimes i feel i start loosing my inner child... that sucks as we (me & my innerchild) had some grazy times :D
then again.. sometimes i feel i start loosing my inner child... that sucks as we (me & my innerchild) had some grazy times :D
17 May 2010 14:34
Margus Meigo commented on Carlos Jorge Ferreira's post.
:P
17 May 2010 12:52
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Simon's post.
damn
17 May 2010 12:52
Margus Meigo commented on Andres Kalev Rebane's post.
Hei, tnx Kalev :)
Kuida kulgeb?
Kuida kulgeb?
17 May 2010 12:51
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's post.
Tänud:)
Ilm oli kyll väga kaunis :P
Ilm oli kyll väga kaunis :P
17 May 2010 12:51
Margus Meigo commented on Melissa Mayot's post.
Thank you Melissa :)
17 May 2010 12:50
Margus Meigo commented on Mairi Peetersoo's post.
Tänks Mairi :)
17 May 2010 12:50
Margus Meigo commented on Maiu Püüa's post.
Tarvis, tänud!
17 May 2010 12:50
Margus Meigo commented on Anna-Maria Galojan's post.
Tänud Anna :))
Kenad read :))
Kenad read :))
17 May 2010 00:03
Margus Meigo commented on Hedy Kalvet's post.
Seda vaja Hedy, tnx :))
17 May 2010 00:01
Margus Meigo commented on Kristina Vabamäe's post.
Kuhjaga tarvis, tänx :))
17 May 2010 00:01
Margus Meigo commented on Tanya Kudeva's post.
Tänx Tanya :))
17 May 2010 00:00
Margus Meigo commented on Marie Ustav's post.
Seda tarvis :P
16 May 2010 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on Erki Arusoo's post.
Tänud Erik :))
Pidu tuleb ka mingi aeg ehk :P
Pidu tuleb ka mingi aeg ehk :P
16 May 2010 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on Liivika Raudsepp's post.
Tänud :))
16 May 2010 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on Thomas Tibert's post.
Thanks Thomas :))
16 May 2010 23:58
Margus Meigo commented on Gülin Esin's post.
Sağol Gulin :)
16 May 2010 23:58
Margus Meigo commented on Valdik Kask's post.
Kuhjaga vaja Valdik :P
16 May 2010 23:56
Margus Meigo commented on Mariann Raudmets's post.
Tänud Marian :)
16 May 2010 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on Andrea Albertoni's post.
Thank you Andrea :))
16 May 2010 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on Merju Künnapuu's post.
äitäh :))
16 May 2010 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on Zwetelina Steinbach's post.
Thank you so much for kind words and greetings Zwetelina :))
I will not have plan to come Bulgaria in near future but Germany and some other cuntrys are on my mind... i will let you know :)
I will not have plan to come Bulgaria in near future but Germany and some other cuntrys are on my mind... i will let you know :)
16 May 2010 23:54
Margus Meigo commented on Katrin Toe's post.
Tänud Katrin :))
16 May 2010 23:51
Margus Meigo commented on Carlos Jorge Ferreira's post.
Thanks Carlos, i will try :))
16 May 2010 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on Mai-Liis Kullama's post.
Tänud :))
16 May 2010 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Simon's post.
yoyo, tnx :)
Suvel teen peo ka vist :P
Suvel teen peo ka vist :P
16 May 2010 23:49
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Liisa Sarapik's post.
Äitäh :))
16 May 2010 23:48
Margus Meigo commented on Piret FireFairy Meinberg's link.
Muahhh 2 u 2, 2x :))
16 May 2010 16:25
Margus Meigo commented on Helena Pant's post.
Tarvis, tänud :))
16 May 2010 16:24
Margus Meigo commented on Liina Rechlin's post.
Äitäh :))
16 May 2010 16:24
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Praks's post.
:D
Aasta tuleb kena ja uus! Tänud :))
Aasta tuleb kena ja uus! Tänud :))
16 May 2010 16:24
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Suure - suured tänud :))
16 May 2010 16:23
Margus Meigo commented on Minni Semu's post.
Äitäh :))
16 May 2010 16:22
Margus Meigo commented on Karmen Adel's post.
Tänud :))
16 May 2010 16:22
Margus Meigo commented on Piret FireFairy Meinberg's link.
hahahahahahaa, thäänks :D
16 May 2010 12:19
Margus Meigo commented on Katrin Laur's post.
:))
Tnx :)
Tnx :)
16 May 2010 12:16
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Kupits's post.
Ikke, tänud :))
16 May 2010 12:16
Margus Meigo commented on Eva Booyaka's post.
Tänud :))
16 May 2010 12:07
Margus Meigo commented on Mila Mendoza Lacasse's post.
Thank you! :)
16 May 2010 12:07
Margus Meigo commented on Peeter Koppel's post.
Õnne ikke vaja, tänud :))
16 May 2010 12:07
Margus Meigo commented on Airi Soomaa's post.
Thank ya :))
16 May 2010 12:07
Margus Meigo commented on Evelin Vo's post.
Äitäh :))
16 May 2010 12:06
Margus Meigo commented on Martin Markii's post.
Tänud :))
16 May 2010 12:06
Margus Meigo commented on Sander Saarm's post.
Äitäh :))
16 May 2010 12:05
Margus Meigo commented on Lauri Leino's post.
Äitäh :))
16 May 2010 12:04
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's link.
bdw - i was just thinking to make my "unBirthday" in middle of summer :))
16 May 2010 12:03
Margus Meigo commented on Ott Kitt's post.
:P
Tänud :))
Tänud :))
16 May 2010 12:03
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's link.
Hahhaa, thank you Romik, it's one of my favorites :))
16 May 2010 12:02
Margus Meigo commented on Reyhan Durmaz's post.
Thank you! :))
16 May 2010 11:26
Margus Meigo commented on Janar Einula's post.
Kuida elad?
16 May 2010 11:26
Margus Meigo commented on Liina Wrublewski's post.
Täänud kallis Liina :)
16 May 2010 11:25
Margus Meigo commented on Janar Einula's post.
Yoo, täname!
16 May 2010 11:25
Margus Meigo commented on Classic Nkosi's post.
Õnne on vaja ;)
( "a lot of luck" - "the luck is needed" )
( "a lot of luck" - "the luck is needed" )
16 May 2010 11:25
Margus Meigo commented on Classic Nkosi's post.
Thanks man! I will try to have ... but for reallty i only have cyber bd this year, next year will make great one (or some months from now)!
16 May 2010 11:23
Margus Meigo commented on Anton Lignell's post.
Thanks dude! :))
16 May 2010 11:19
Margus Meigo commented on Mari-Ann Meigo Fonseca's post.
Äitähh :))
16 May 2010 11:19
Margus Meigo commented on Katrin Ahven's post.
Äitäh :))
16 May 2010 02:08
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
Thank you darling :)
No selebration here unfortunatelly, i had all the fun in russia :))
No selebration here unfortunatelly, i had all the fun in russia :))
16 May 2010 02:07
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Tänud Jaak!
16 May 2010 00:54
Margus Meigo commented on Mark Kychma's post.
Thank you Mark, this is cool personal touch :)))
16 May 2010 00:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Notice about my bd party that was planned in ArtCafee - it will not happen on this week - but i will let you know if i should make it in future. Currently there is just to much to handle ... but yes -there might coming something up in future.
Sorry :))
Sorry :))
15 May 2010 21:58
Margus Meigo commented on Jan Mamis's post.
Thank You, i will do my best! :)
15 May 2010 21:50
Margus Meigo commented on Nur Natasya's post.
Thank You :)
15 May 2010 21:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
PS: i will not be at ArtCafee as i decided to not make any bd party right now - will let you know later when party is coming if it's coming :)
15 May 2010 21:50
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yeeeees, it was Supper :)
12 May 2010 09:31
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Ei kobise, ma siin proovisin tunnetada ja mõista olukorra reaalset tõsisust. Väga karm teema ikka ju kui reaalne töö puhta luhta läheb sedasi, päevast terve hea osa raiskus - mõelda vaid mida selle asemel kõike teha oleks saanud.. mmm :)
Muide ma tagasi Amsterdamist, suundun venemaale homme :P
Muide ma tagasi Amsterdamist, suundun venemaale homme :P
5 May 2010 23:55
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Suht problemaatiline olukord ikka :D
5 May 2010 19:51
Margus Meigo commented on Karin Kiplok's post.
Nu jah.. juba tagasi jep. Ning venemaale kah jah vaja minna... kuigi tõbine praegu veel
5 May 2010 19:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nuh, seal puhastusfirma on ju valitsuse vastusel streigil juba pikemat aega, isegi inimesed imestasid, et peale queensdaid tänavad suht korras olid :P
5 May 2010 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on Mairi Peetersoo's post.
Ehehhee... U know... it's ALL around you :))
Mul endal ka töö osas suht buzy -kuigi kui aus olla siis eriti ei viitsi / jõua tegeleda kah. Kui hästi lääb siis jõuan esimese koolituse ülesande ette võtta veel aint
Kuid yeah... anna teada kui reisi himu peal, nirvaanasse või mis iganes see sihtkoht ka oleks :P
Mul endal ka töö osas suht buzy -kuigi kui aus olla siis eriti ei viitsi / jõua tegeleda kah. Kui hästi lääb siis jõuan esimese koolituse ülesande ette võtta veel aint
Kuid yeah... anna teada kui reisi himu peal, nirvaanasse või mis iganes see sihtkoht ka oleks :P
5 May 2010 08:39
Margus Meigo commented on Karin Kiplok's post.
krt, minematta jäi sinna kluppi. tegelt kuskil ei jõudnud olla kus plaan oli ja midagi ei saanud selliselt teha mida plaanis oli algselt kuid see eest kohtusin Allaniga ja ta emaga ja see oli supper lahe :))
5 May 2010 00:45
Margus Meigo commented on Mairi Peetersoo's post.
Heeey Heeey :))
Kuida kulgeb?
Kuida kulgeb?
5 May 2010 00:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Liima & Anton - thanks :))
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Piret - emm... mul oli "Netherlands - Heeeer iiii coooome! :)))"
ka messendseris.. xD xD
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Leili - kahjuks ei astunud :(
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Anyway back i am & nyyd siis Vene poole :))
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Piret - emm... mul oli "Netherlands - Heeeer iiii coooome! :)))"
ka messendseris.. xD xD
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Leili - kahjuks ei astunud :(
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Anyway back i am & nyyd siis Vene poole :))
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4 May 2010 23:13
Margus Meigo commented on Iona Miller's link.
exactly Trebha, Most people do not understand, that they are not free, they have this illusion of democracy ... people mind are so perversed that they think if they have freedom to " wear mini skirt or jeans, look porn & eat hamburger" then they are free... what a pitty creatures.
Lets see how many countries will let them be free if they want to eat some mushrooms what grow behind ones house (4 example).
Lets see how many countries will let them be free if they want to eat some mushrooms what grow behind ones house (4 example).
27 April 2010 11:56
Margus Meigo commented on Janar Janar's post.
lol @Jarmo (Y)
to bad they do not publish the statistics .. would be fun to see
to bad they do not publish the statistics .. would be fun to see
27 April 2010 11:02
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Mõelda vaid, et Lennon kirjutas selle laulu peale seda kui naine teda närvi ajas... ning nyyd on see laul tänu NASA'le kosmoses ning "tulnukad" saavad ümiseda "jai guru deva om" ... world works in mysterious ways... :)
Muide keegi filmi ka vaadanud un sama nimelist? Üks väheseid muusikale mida mul ikka ja jälle vaadata meeldib vahest.
Muide keegi filmi ka vaadanud un sama nimelist? Üks väheseid muusikale mida mul ikka ja jälle vaadata meeldib vahest.
27 April 2010 10:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Õige valik @ Rene [ahjaa.. saq mõtlesid öelda "psyhedeeli" pigem, sest psyhotroopsed ained on kõik ravimitest kuni viinani välja] :)
Ning kuna kaua lugenud oled siis ei ole vaja õnneks ka tavapärast loengut newbie loengut lugeda - aimad umbes ka ise millega tegu :)
DMT'd Eestis ja enamustes maades ei müüda - see suht eksootiline ning liigub teatud ringkondades ringi aint. Diilerid selliste asjade myygist ei ole huvitatud kuna see ei tekita sõltuvust ega tahtmist seda tihti proovida - kuid eelkõige ei ole mingit nõudlust, isegi LSD järgi on imeväike nõudlus igast kolli juttude pärast mis fantaasiatel põhinevad. Venemaal liigub natuke - kuid üldiselt annab seda ise teha koduste vahenditega kui aega ja viitsimist on ning basic teadmised keemiast. Ka eesti taimed sisaldavad seda kuid otsest infot kuskil ei ole millised ja kui palju - selle asja uurimise kallale asun vb 5+ aasta pärast. Kuid puu/taimed vabalt legaalselt myygis kust seda extractida saab suurtemates kogustes. Mitmid õpetusi ka net täis kuidas valmistada DMT'd (suitsetatav vorm) või Ayahuascat ( "DMT jook" ). Kui ise mõlema kohta loed siis saad isegi olulisest erinevusest aru.
Seeni vabalt saada kuid mitmed sourced jagavad miskedi kahtlasi seeni. Soovitan Eesti psy commuunides liikuda - sealt ike leiab inimesi kes teavad kust mida vahest leida võib. Samas võib ka ise luurata koplites õigel ajal õiges kohas.
Mulle isiklikult Eesti seened nii ei meeldi kui mitmed teiste maade omad ja kombinatsioonid mõndadest teiste maade seentest.
Ning kuna kaua lugenud oled siis ei ole vaja õnneks ka tavapärast loengut newbie loengut lugeda - aimad umbes ka ise millega tegu :)
DMT'd Eestis ja enamustes maades ei müüda - see suht eksootiline ning liigub teatud ringkondades ringi aint. Diilerid selliste asjade myygist ei ole huvitatud kuna see ei tekita sõltuvust ega tahtmist seda tihti proovida - kuid eelkõige ei ole mingit nõudlust, isegi LSD järgi on imeväike nõudlus igast kolli juttude pärast mis fantaasiatel põhinevad. Venemaal liigub natuke - kuid üldiselt annab seda ise teha koduste vahenditega kui aega ja viitsimist on ning basic teadmised keemiast. Ka eesti taimed sisaldavad seda kuid otsest infot kuskil ei ole millised ja kui palju - selle asja uurimise kallale asun vb 5+ aasta pärast. Kuid puu/taimed vabalt legaalselt myygis kust seda extractida saab suurtemates kogustes. Mitmid õpetusi ka net täis kuidas valmistada DMT'd (suitsetatav vorm) või Ayahuascat ( "DMT jook" ). Kui ise mõlema kohta loed siis saad isegi olulisest erinevusest aru.
Seeni vabalt saada kuid mitmed sourced jagavad miskedi kahtlasi seeni. Soovitan Eesti psy commuunides liikuda - sealt ike leiab inimesi kes teavad kust mida vahest leida võib. Samas võib ka ise luurata koplites õigel ajal õiges kohas.
Mulle isiklikult Eesti seened nii ei meeldi kui mitmed teiste maade omad ja kombinatsioonid mõndadest teiste maade seentest.
27 April 2010 10:37
Margus Meigo commented on Iona Miller's link.
Jeffrey - our military openly bombs child hospitals & poisons with radioactive waste "terrorisers" drinking water sources "by accident" ... in most of the world you are still not allowed to do whit your consciousness/brain what you want and you wondering about dark ages.. :)
27 April 2010 10:28
Margus Meigo commented on Iona Miller's link.
Sad world we live in... but yeah - this is not far the worst unfortunatelly..
27 April 2010 04:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Well, no one has asked that from me before, but as you probably know, if you want someone to explain to you or give other personal information about DMT then one can use forums like https://www.dmt-nexus.com/ might have a answer or Ricks phone consulting: http://www.rickstrassman.com/?q=node/17 ( 100 dollars for 30 minutes) - but i am not really sore this is the answer you was looking for right ?
27 April 2010 03:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Since that study, which was published in 2008 [ http://jop.sagepub.com/cgi/content/short/0269881108094300v1 ], Dr. Griffiths and his colleagues have gone on to give psilocybin to people dealing with cancer and depression, like Dr. Martin, the retired psychologist from Vancouver. Dr. Martin’s experience is fairly typical, Dr. Griffiths said: an improved outlook on life after an experience in which the boundaries between the self and others disappear.
In interviews, Dr. Martin and other subjects described their egos and bodies vanishing as they felt part of some larger state of consciousness in which their personal worries and insecurities vanished. They found themselves reviewing past relationships with lovers and relatives with a new sense of empathy.
“It was a whole personality shift for me,” Dr. Martin said. “I wasn’t any longer attached to my performance and trying to control things. I could see that the really good things in life will happen if you just show up and share your natural enthusiasms with people. You have a feeling of attunement with other people.”
The subjects’ reports mirrored so closely the accounts of religious mystical experiences, Dr. Griffiths said, that it seems likely the human brain is wired to undergo these “unitive” experiences, perhaps because of some evolutionary advantage.
“This feeling that we’re all in it together may have benefited communities by encouraging reciprocal generosity,” Dr. Griffiths said. “On the other hand, universal love isn’t always adaptive, either.”
Although federal regulators have resumed granting approval for controlled experiments with psychedelics, there has been little public money granted for the research, which is being conducted at Hopkins, the University of Arizona [ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17196053 ] ; Harvard [ http://www.maps.org/w3pb/new/2006/2006_Sewell_22779_1.pdf ]; New York University[ http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00957359 ]; the University of California [ http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00302744?term=NCT00302744 ], Los Angeles; and other places.
The work has been supported by nonprofit groups like the Heffter Research Institute [ http://www.heffter.org/index.html ] and MAPS [ http://www.maps.org/ ] , the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies.
“There’s this coming together of science and spirituality,” said Rick Doblin, the executive director of MAPS. “We’re hoping that the mainstream and the psychedelic community can meet in the middle and avoid another culture war. Thanks to changes over the last 40 years in the social acceptance of the hospice [ http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/health/diseasesconditionsandhealthtopics/hospice_care/index.html] movement and yoga and meditation, our culture is much more receptive now, and we’re showing that these drugs can provide benefits that current treatments can’t.”
Researchers are reporting preliminary success in using psilocybin to ease the anxiety of patients with terminal illnesses. Dr. Charles S. Grob [ http://dgsom.healthsciences.ucla.edu/research/institution/personnel?personnel_id=46791 ], a psychiatrist who is involved in an experiment at U.C.L.A. [ http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/organizations/u/university_of_california/index.html?inline=nyt-org ], describes it as “existential medicine” that helps dying people overcome fear, panic and depression.
“Under the influences of hallucinogens,” Dr. Grob writes, “individuals transcend their primary identification with their bodies and experience ego-free states before the time of their actual physical demise, and return with a new perspective and profound acceptance of the life constant: change.”
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In interviews, Dr. Martin and other subjects described their egos and bodies vanishing as they felt part of some larger state of consciousness in which their personal worries and insecurities vanished. They found themselves reviewing past relationships with lovers and relatives with a new sense of empathy.
“It was a whole personality shift for me,” Dr. Martin said. “I wasn’t any longer attached to my performance and trying to control things. I could see that the really good things in life will happen if you just show up and share your natural enthusiasms with people. You have a feeling of attunement with other people.”
The subjects’ reports mirrored so closely the accounts of religious mystical experiences, Dr. Griffiths said, that it seems likely the human brain is wired to undergo these “unitive” experiences, perhaps because of some evolutionary advantage.
“This feeling that we’re all in it together may have benefited communities by encouraging reciprocal generosity,” Dr. Griffiths said. “On the other hand, universal love isn’t always adaptive, either.”
Although federal regulators have resumed granting approval for controlled experiments with psychedelics, there has been little public money granted for the research, which is being conducted at Hopkins, the University of Arizona [ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17196053 ] ; Harvard [ http://www.maps.org/w3pb/new/2006/2006_Sewell_22779_1.pdf ]; New York University[ http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00957359 ]; the University of California [ http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00302744?term=NCT00302744 ], Los Angeles; and other places.
The work has been supported by nonprofit groups like the Heffter Research Institute [ http://www.heffter.org/index.html ] and MAPS [ http://www.maps.org/ ] , the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies.
“There’s this coming together of science and spirituality,” said Rick Doblin, the executive director of MAPS. “We’re hoping that the mainstream and the psychedelic community can meet in the middle and avoid another culture war. Thanks to changes over the last 40 years in the social acceptance of the hospice [ http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/health/diseasesconditionsandhealthtopics/hospice_care/index.html] movement and yoga and meditation, our culture is much more receptive now, and we’re showing that these drugs can provide benefits that current treatments can’t.”
Researchers are reporting preliminary success in using psilocybin to ease the anxiety of patients with terminal illnesses. Dr. Charles S. Grob [ http://dgsom.healthsciences.ucla.edu/research/institution/personnel?personnel_id=46791 ], a psychiatrist who is involved in an experiment at U.C.L.A. [ http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/organizations/u/university_of_california/index.html?inline=nyt-org ], describes it as “existential medicine” that helps dying people overcome fear, panic and depression.
“Under the influences of hallucinogens,” Dr. Grob writes, “individuals transcend their primary identification with their bodies and experience ego-free states before the time of their actual physical demise, and return with a new perspective and profound acceptance of the life constant: change.”
Extra:
Dr. Ecstasy
By DRAKE BENNETT
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/30/magazine/30ECSTASY.html
Thank you for reading!
- Waffa -
27 April 2010 02:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Because reactions to hallucinogens can vary so much depending on the setting, experimenters and review boards have developed guidelines to set up a comfortable environment with expert monitors in the room to deal with adverse reactions. They have established standard protocols so that the drugs’ effects can be gauged more accurately, and they have also directly observed the drugs’ effects by scanning the brains of people under the influence of hallucinogens.
Scientists are especially intrigued by the similarities between hallucinogenic experiences and the life-changing revelations reported throughout history by religious mystics and those who meditate. These similarities have been identified in neural imaging studies [ http://www.heffter.org/pages/fxv.html ] conducted by Swiss researchers and in experiments led by Roland Griffiths [ http://neuroscience.jhu.edu/RolandGriffiths.php ], a professor of behavioral biology at Johns Hopkins.
In one of Dr. Griffiths’s first studies, involving 36 people with no serious physical or emotional problems, he and colleagues found that psilocybin could induce what the experimental subjects described as a profound spiritual experience with lasting positive effects for most of them. None had had any previous experience with hallucinogens, and none were even sure what drug was being administered.
To make the experiment double-blind, neither the subjects nor the two experts monitoring them knew whether the subjects were receiving a placebo, psilocybin or another drug like Ritalin, nicotine, caffeine or an amphetamine. Although veterans of the ’60s psychedelic culture may have a hard time believing it, Dr. Griffiths said that even the monitors sometimes could not tell from the reactions whether the person had taken psilocybin or Ritalin.
The monitors sometimes had to console people through periods of anxiety, Dr. Griffiths said, but these were generally short-lived, and none of the people reported any serious negative effects. In a survey conducted two months later, the people who received psilocybin reported significantly more improvements in their general feelings and behavior than did the members of the control group.
The findings were repeated in another follow-up survey, taken 14 months after the experiment. At that point most of the psilocybin subjects once again expressed more satisfaction with their lives and rated the experience as one of the five most meaningful events of their lives.
Scientists are especially intrigued by the similarities between hallucinogenic experiences and the life-changing revelations reported throughout history by religious mystics and those who meditate. These similarities have been identified in neural imaging studies [ http://www.heffter.org/pages/fxv.html ] conducted by Swiss researchers and in experiments led by Roland Griffiths [ http://neuroscience.jhu.edu/RolandGriffiths.php ], a professor of behavioral biology at Johns Hopkins.
In one of Dr. Griffiths’s first studies, involving 36 people with no serious physical or emotional problems, he and colleagues found that psilocybin could induce what the experimental subjects described as a profound spiritual experience with lasting positive effects for most of them. None had had any previous experience with hallucinogens, and none were even sure what drug was being administered.
To make the experiment double-blind, neither the subjects nor the two experts monitoring them knew whether the subjects were receiving a placebo, psilocybin or another drug like Ritalin, nicotine, caffeine or an amphetamine. Although veterans of the ’60s psychedelic culture may have a hard time believing it, Dr. Griffiths said that even the monitors sometimes could not tell from the reactions whether the person had taken psilocybin or Ritalin.
The monitors sometimes had to console people through periods of anxiety, Dr. Griffiths said, but these were generally short-lived, and none of the people reported any serious negative effects. In a survey conducted two months later, the people who received psilocybin reported significantly more improvements in their general feelings and behavior than did the members of the control group.
The findings were repeated in another follow-up survey, taken 14 months after the experiment. At that point most of the psilocybin subjects once again expressed more satisfaction with their lives and rated the experience as one of the five most meaningful events of their lives.
27 April 2010 02:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/12/science/12psychedelics.html?hpw
"Hallucinogens Have Doctors Tuning In Again"
April 11, 2010
As a retired clinical psychologist, Clark Martin was well acquainted with traditional treatments for depression , but his own case seemed untreatable as he struggled through chemotherapy [ http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/news/health/diseasesconditionsandhealthtopics/chemotherapy/index.html ] and other grueling regimens for kidney cancer . Counseling seemed futile to him. So did the antidepressant pills he tried.
Nothing had any lasting effect until, at the age of 65, he had his first psychedelic experience. He left his home in Vancouver, Wash., to take part in an experiment at Johns Hopkins medical school [ http://www.bpru.org/cancer-studies/ ] involving psilocybin, the psychoactive ingredient found in certain mushrooms.
Scientists are taking a new look at hallucinogens, which became taboo among regulators after enthusiasts like Timothy Leary promoted them in the 1960s with the slogan “Turn on, tune in, drop out.” Now, using rigorous protocols and safeguards, scientists have won permission to study once again the drugs’ potential for treating mental problems and illuminating the nature of consciousness.
After taking the hallucinogen, Dr. Martin put on an eye mask and headphones, and lay on a couch listening to classical music as he contemplated the universe.
“All of a sudden, everything familiar started evaporating,” he recalled. “Imagine you fall off a boat out in the open ocean, and you turn around, and the boat is gone. And then the water’s gone. And then you’re gone.”
Today, more than a year later, Dr. Martin credits that six-hour experience with helping him overcome his depression and profoundly transforming his relationships with his daughter and friends. He ranks it among the most meaningful events of his life, which makes him a fairly typical member of a growing club of experimental subjects.
Researchers from around the world are gathering this week in San Jose, Calif., for the largest conference on psychedelic science held in the United States in four decades. They plan to discuss studies of psilocybin and other psychedelics for treating depression in cancer patients, obsessive-compulsive disorder, end-of-life anxiety, post-traumatic stress disorder and addiction to drugs or alcohol.
The results so far are encouraging but also preliminary, and researchers caution against reading too much into these small-scale studies. They do not want to repeat the mistakes of the 1960s, when some scientists-turned-evangelists exaggerated their understanding of the drugs’ risks and benefits.
"Hallucinogens Have Doctors Tuning In Again"
April 11, 2010
As a retired clinical psychologist, Clark Martin was well acquainted with traditional treatments for depression , but his own case seemed untreatable as he struggled through chemotherapy [ http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/news/health/diseasesconditionsandhealthtopics/chemotherapy/index.html ] and other grueling regimens for kidney cancer . Counseling seemed futile to him. So did the antidepressant pills he tried.
Nothing had any lasting effect until, at the age of 65, he had his first psychedelic experience. He left his home in Vancouver, Wash., to take part in an experiment at Johns Hopkins medical school [ http://www.bpru.org/cancer-studies/ ] involving psilocybin, the psychoactive ingredient found in certain mushrooms.
Scientists are taking a new look at hallucinogens, which became taboo among regulators after enthusiasts like Timothy Leary promoted them in the 1960s with the slogan “Turn on, tune in, drop out.” Now, using rigorous protocols and safeguards, scientists have won permission to study once again the drugs’ potential for treating mental problems and illuminating the nature of consciousness.
After taking the hallucinogen, Dr. Martin put on an eye mask and headphones, and lay on a couch listening to classical music as he contemplated the universe.
“All of a sudden, everything familiar started evaporating,” he recalled. “Imagine you fall off a boat out in the open ocean, and you turn around, and the boat is gone. And then the water’s gone. And then you’re gone.”
Today, more than a year later, Dr. Martin credits that six-hour experience with helping him overcome his depression and profoundly transforming his relationships with his daughter and friends. He ranks it among the most meaningful events of his life, which makes him a fairly typical member of a growing club of experimental subjects.
Researchers from around the world are gathering this week in San Jose, Calif., for the largest conference on psychedelic science held in the United States in four decades. They plan to discuss studies of psilocybin and other psychedelics for treating depression in cancer patients, obsessive-compulsive disorder, end-of-life anxiety, post-traumatic stress disorder and addiction to drugs or alcohol.
The results so far are encouraging but also preliminary, and researchers caution against reading too much into these small-scale studies. They do not want to repeat the mistakes of the 1960s, when some scientists-turned-evangelists exaggerated their understanding of the drugs’ risks and benefits.
27 April 2010 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Some news & documentaryes - & remember, this stuffis mostly not allowed/accepted in news as it's undermining the "War on Drugs" ( it would be like telling in news that "War on Terrorism is BS" )
Magic mushrooms on CNN - Long lasting postive effects ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7yKpvBQhTw
CNN: Psychedelic Drugs Medical Treatments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C6zcT5STBI
BBC documentary: Psychedelic Science - DMT, LSD, Ibogaine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d74ZwkOzXB4
The Beyond Within A BBC documentary on LSD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzq_sBsjbAU
Hofmann's Potion: Documentary about LSD and its father Albert Hofmann
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFfblVjCwOU
Magic mushrooms on CNN - Long lasting postive effects ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7yKpvBQhTw
CNN: Psychedelic Drugs Medical Treatments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C6zcT5STBI
BBC documentary: Psychedelic Science - DMT, LSD, Ibogaine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d74ZwkOzXB4
The Beyond Within A BBC documentary on LSD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzq_sBsjbAU
Hofmann's Potion: Documentary about LSD and its father Albert Hofmann
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFfblVjCwOU
27 April 2010 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
DMT is also the primary active ingredient of ayahuasca, a tea that Amazonian tribes brew from two plants and drink as a sacred medicine. After hearing about ayahuasca from the legendary Harvard botanist Richard Shultes, the beat writer William Burroughs traveled to South America and swilled the stuff in 1953. In a letter to the poet Allen Ginsberg [ http://www.amazon.com/Yage-Letters-William-S-Burroughs/dp/0872860043/ ], Burroughs said that during his first ayahuasca trip he thought he had been poisoned, and he felt himself turning into half-man-half-woman. Burroughs nonetheless drank the tea again and praised its ability to facilitate “space time travel.” (William Burroughs (1915-1997) is widely reconized as one of the most innovative writers of the twentieth century)
By the mid-20th century, ayahuasca had also been adopted as a sacrament by several urban sects in Brazil. The largest of these is the Uniao Do Vegetal, which combines elements of Christianity with indigenous Indian beliefs. Researchers led by the UCLA psychiatrist Charles Grob (who is mentioned in Tierney’s story) have reported that Brazilian UDV members are on average healthier physiologically and psychologically than a control group. UDV members also claimed that ayahuasca had helped them overcome alcoholism, drug addiction and other self-destructive behaviors. A decade ago, a branch of the UDV based in New Mexico sued for the right to consume ayahuasca legally in the U.S. In 2006 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of the group [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzales_v._O_Centro_Espirita_Beneficente_Uniao_do_Vegetal ].
In The Antipodes of the Mind: "Charting the Phenomenology of the Ayahuasca Experience" [ http://www.amazon.com/Antipodes-Mind-Phenomenology-Ayahuasca-Experience/dp/0199252939 ], the Israeli psychologist Benny Shanon, who has consumed ayahuasca more than 100 times, provides a gripping account of his own and others’ visions. Shanon says the tea transformed him from a “devout atheist” into a spiritual believer awestruck by the mysteries of nature and the human mind. Yet Shanon, like Strassman, acknowledges that these hallucinogenic experiences pose risks. Quoting one ayahuasca shaman, Shanon warns that ayahuasca can also be “the worst of liars,” leaving some users gripped by delusions.
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About the book:
"This is a pioneering cognitive psychological study of Ayahuasca, a plant-based Amazonian psychotropic brew. The author presents a comprehensive charting of the various facets of the special state of mind induced by Ayahuasca, and analyzes them from a cognitive psychological perspective. In addition to its being the most thorough study of the Ayahuasca experience to date, this book lays the theoretical foundations for the psychological study of non-ordinary states of consciousness in general. "
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I drank ayahuasca a decade ago while researching my book Rational Mysticism: "Spirituality Meets Science in the Search for Enlightenment" . It tastes like stale beer dregs flavored with cigarette butts. After I threw up, I had a cosmic panic attack, in which I was menaced by malevolent, dayglo-hued polyhedra. I have no desire to repeat this experience.
I applaud the psychedelic renaissance, with this caveat: Spiritual texts often emphasize the dangers of mystical experiences, whether generated by drugs, fasting, meditation or other means. That is the theme of an old Talmudic tale in which four rabbis are brought into the presence of God. One becomes a heretic, one goes crazy, one drops dead and one returns home with his faith affirmed.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
John Horgan, a former Scientific American staff writer, directs the Center for Science Writings at Stevens Institute of Technology
By the mid-20th century, ayahuasca had also been adopted as a sacrament by several urban sects in Brazil. The largest of these is the Uniao Do Vegetal, which combines elements of Christianity with indigenous Indian beliefs. Researchers led by the UCLA psychiatrist Charles Grob (who is mentioned in Tierney’s story) have reported that Brazilian UDV members are on average healthier physiologically and psychologically than a control group. UDV members also claimed that ayahuasca had helped them overcome alcoholism, drug addiction and other self-destructive behaviors. A decade ago, a branch of the UDV based in New Mexico sued for the right to consume ayahuasca legally in the U.S. In 2006 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of the group [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzales_v._O_Centro_Espirita_Beneficente_Uniao_do_Vegetal ].
In The Antipodes of the Mind: "Charting the Phenomenology of the Ayahuasca Experience" [ http://www.amazon.com/Antipodes-Mind-Phenomenology-Ayahuasca-Experience/dp/0199252939 ], the Israeli psychologist Benny Shanon, who has consumed ayahuasca more than 100 times, provides a gripping account of his own and others’ visions. Shanon says the tea transformed him from a “devout atheist” into a spiritual believer awestruck by the mysteries of nature and the human mind. Yet Shanon, like Strassman, acknowledges that these hallucinogenic experiences pose risks. Quoting one ayahuasca shaman, Shanon warns that ayahuasca can also be “the worst of liars,” leaving some users gripped by delusions.
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About the book:
"This is a pioneering cognitive psychological study of Ayahuasca, a plant-based Amazonian psychotropic brew. The author presents a comprehensive charting of the various facets of the special state of mind induced by Ayahuasca, and analyzes them from a cognitive psychological perspective. In addition to its being the most thorough study of the Ayahuasca experience to date, this book lays the theoretical foundations for the psychological study of non-ordinary states of consciousness in general. "
---
I drank ayahuasca a decade ago while researching my book Rational Mysticism: "Spirituality Meets Science in the Search for Enlightenment" . It tastes like stale beer dregs flavored with cigarette butts. After I threw up, I had a cosmic panic attack, in which I was menaced by malevolent, dayglo-hued polyhedra. I have no desire to repeat this experience.
I applaud the psychedelic renaissance, with this caveat: Spiritual texts often emphasize the dangers of mystical experiences, whether generated by drugs, fasting, meditation or other means. That is the theme of an old Talmudic tale in which four rabbis are brought into the presence of God. One becomes a heretic, one goes crazy, one drops dead and one returns home with his faith affirmed.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
John Horgan, a former Scientific American staff writer, directs the Center for Science Writings at Stevens Institute of Technology
27 April 2010 02:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
You know that psychedelics are making a comeback when the New York Times says so on page 1. In “Hallucinogens Have Doctors Tuning In,” [ http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/12/science/12psychedelics.html?hpw ] John Tierney reports on how doctors at schools like Harvard, Johns Hopkins, UCLA and NYU are testing the potential of psilocybin and other hallucinogens for treating depression, obsessive-compulsive disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder, alcoholism—and for inducing spiritual experiences.
Tierney’s brisk overview neglects to mention the most mind-bending of all psychedelics: dimethyltryptamine, or DMT. It was first synthesized by a British chemist in the 1930s, and its psychotropic properties were discovered some 20 years later by the Hungarian-born chemist Stephen Szara, who later became a researcher for the National Institute on Drug Abuse.
Why is DMT so fascinating? For starters, DMT is the only psychedelic known to occur naturally in the human body. In 1972, the Nobel laureate Julius Axelrod of the National Institutes of Health discovered DMT in human brain tissue, leading to speculation that the compound plays a role in psychosis. Research into that possibility—and into psychedelics in general--was abandoned because of the growing backlash against these compounds.
In 1990, however, Rick Strassman, a psychiatrist at the University of New Mexico, obtained permission from federal authorities to inject DMT into human volunteers. Strassman, a Buddhist, suspected that endogenous DMT might contribute to mystical experiences. From 1990 to 1995, he supervised more than 400 DMT sessions involving 60 subjects at the University of New Mexico. Many subjects reported that they dissolved blissfully into a radiant light or sensed the presence of a powerful, god-like being.
On the other hand, 25 subjects underwent what Strassman called “adverse effects,” including terrifying hallucinations of “aliens” that took the shape of robots, insects or reptiles. Some subjects remained convinced that these aliens were real in spite of Strassman’s efforts to convince them otherwise. In part out of concern about these adverse effects, Strassman discontinued his research, which he describes in his 2000 book DMT: The Spirit Molecule: "A Doctor's Revolutionary Research into the Biology of Near-Death and Mystical Experience". [ http://www.amazon.com/DMT-Molecule-Revolutionary-Near-Death-Experiences/dp/0892819278 ]
Tierney’s brisk overview neglects to mention the most mind-bending of all psychedelics: dimethyltryptamine, or DMT. It was first synthesized by a British chemist in the 1930s, and its psychotropic properties were discovered some 20 years later by the Hungarian-born chemist Stephen Szara, who later became a researcher for the National Institute on Drug Abuse.
Why is DMT so fascinating? For starters, DMT is the only psychedelic known to occur naturally in the human body. In 1972, the Nobel laureate Julius Axelrod of the National Institutes of Health discovered DMT in human brain tissue, leading to speculation that the compound plays a role in psychosis. Research into that possibility—and into psychedelics in general--was abandoned because of the growing backlash against these compounds.
In 1990, however, Rick Strassman, a psychiatrist at the University of New Mexico, obtained permission from federal authorities to inject DMT into human volunteers. Strassman, a Buddhist, suspected that endogenous DMT might contribute to mystical experiences. From 1990 to 1995, he supervised more than 400 DMT sessions involving 60 subjects at the University of New Mexico. Many subjects reported that they dissolved blissfully into a radiant light or sensed the presence of a powerful, god-like being.
On the other hand, 25 subjects underwent what Strassman called “adverse effects,” including terrifying hallucinations of “aliens” that took the shape of robots, insects or reptiles. Some subjects remained convinced that these aliens were real in spite of Strassman’s efforts to convince them otherwise. In part out of concern about these adverse effects, Strassman discontinued his research, which he describes in his 2000 book DMT: The Spirit Molecule: "A Doctor's Revolutionary Research into the Biology of Near-Death and Mystical Experience". [ http://www.amazon.com/DMT-Molecule-Revolutionary-Near-Death-Experiences/dp/0892819278 ]
27 April 2010 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Do i believe Jesus was a mushroom? Well, i do not think it's right kind of question.. i am pretty sore there might have been guy named Jesus among many other messajas on these times. He was not only "son of god"
But if you would ask: do i believe that different hallucinogens have played important role in many religions & cults then i must say: i am almost sore they have :)
Is this one of the reason why specially religious groups are against/afraid that psychedelic knowladge might become general knowladge? Might people then understand that god is everywhere and in us & they do not need to be afraid anymore?
Well, i will not answer this but i ask: should they be afraid?
But if you would ask: do i believe that different hallucinogens have played important role in many religions & cults then i must say: i am almost sore they have :)
Is this one of the reason why specially religious groups are against/afraid that psychedelic knowladge might become general knowladge? Might people then understand that god is everywhere and in us & they do not need to be afraid anymore?
Well, i will not answer this but i ask: should they be afraid?
26 April 2010 12:46
Margus Meigo commented on Karin Kiplok's post.
kewl, thanks!
26 April 2010 12:00
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
:)
What part ya mean outdated? This guy uses these methods right now.
What part ya mean outdated? This guy uses these methods right now.
23 April 2010 21:06
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
this sicko (the one who gov gives license for lsd ) inject huuuuge amount of LSD to mice (compared to their body weight) .. then tortures/keeps them on traps and discovers that they go insane... :D
(look full doc)
(look full doc)
23 April 2010 19:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ofcourse look up critisism also - no theory or idea is worth anything with out skilful critics and there is a lot if you dig otherside of Allegro debate. Google.
Eesti keeles vist kõige põhjalikum kriitika John M. Allegro idee kohta on kirja pandud Tallinna Ülikooli ajaloo instituudi etnoloogia osakonna juhataja Aivar Jürgenson'i poolt.
Kuigi tema kõne stiilist on natukene näha, et ta vb ei pruugi täis avatud arusaama olla "narkootikumide" suhtes on ta sellegi poolest väga haritud ja palju lugenud/kirjutanud inimene. Kuna ta sügavalt on abordi idee vastu ning ka mitmete usuga seotud teemaga tihti tegeleb tekkis mul algul kahtlus, et tegu on ka uskliku inimesega kuid see selleks.
"Etnomükoloogiast ja psühhotroopsetest seentest industriaalühiskonnas"
http://www.folklore.ee/tagused/nr27/seened.htm
Vaadake ka raamatut "Seened kultuuriloos"
Eesti keeles vist kõige põhjalikum kriitika John M. Allegro idee kohta on kirja pandud Tallinna Ülikooli ajaloo instituudi etnoloogia osakonna juhataja Aivar Jürgenson'i poolt.
Kuigi tema kõne stiilist on natukene näha, et ta vb ei pruugi täis avatud arusaama olla "narkootikumide" suhtes on ta sellegi poolest väga haritud ja palju lugenud/kirjutanud inimene. Kuna ta sügavalt on abordi idee vastu ning ka mitmete usuga seotud teemaga tihti tegeleb tekkis mul algul kahtlus, et tegu on ka uskliku inimesega kuid see selleks.
"Etnomükoloogiast ja psühhotroopsetest seentest industriaalühiskonnas"
http://www.folklore.ee/tagused/nr27/seened.htm
Vaadake ka raamatut "Seened kultuuriloos"
23 April 2010 16:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
& did i forget to add the main guy link? Yes i did!
Here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M._Allegro
John Marco Allegro (17 February 1923 London - 17 February 1988, his 65th birthday) was a scholar who challenged orthodox views of the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Bible and the history of religion, with books that attracted popular attention and scholarly derision.
Allegro believed that Essenism was the matrix of Christianity. He suggested that there were so many correspondences between the scroll texts and the New Testament — words and phrases, beliefs and practices, Messianic leadership, a teacher who was persecuted and possibly crucified — that he thought the derivation obvious. This brought him into conflict with the Catholic priests on the editing team, and with most church spokesmen, who maintained the orthodox assumption that the arrival of Jesus was the unique, historical, God-given event described in the Gospels. Allegro also started to look in more depth at the way the New Testament appeared to weave together a mix of folklore, myth, incantation and history.
As a philologist, Allegro analysed the derivations of language. He traced biblical words and phrases back to their roots in Sumerian, and showed how Sumerian phonemes recur in varying but related contexts in many Semitic, classical and other Indo-European languages. Although meanings changed to some extent, Allegro found some basic religious ideas passing on through the genealogy of words. His book The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross relates the development of language on Eurasia to the development of myths, religions and cultic practices in many cultures. Allegro believed he could prove through etymology that the roots of Christianity, as of many other religions, lay in fertility cults; and that cultic practices, such as ingesting hallucinogenic drugs to perceive the mind of god, persisted into Christian times.
Allegro believed the Dead Sea Scrolls raised issues that concerned everyone. It wasn't just a matter of dusty manuscripts and disputed translations. Rather, the story of the scrolls raised questions about freedom of access to evidence, freedom of speech, and freedom to challenge orthodox religious views.
"... with the unhappy record of the church for destroying documents and whole libraries of which it disapproved, as well as its predeliction for controlling the reading habits and opportunities of the faithful, one can only continue to be apprehensive about the church's attitude when religiously sensitive information comes into its hands,..." [10]
Allegro believed that through understanding the origins of religion people could be freed from its bonds to think for themselves and take responsibility for their own judgments.
Allegro's thirteen books include The Dead Sea Scrolls (1956), The Treasure of the Copper Scroll (1960), The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross (1970) and The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian Myth (1979) as well as Discoveries in the Judaean Desert of Jordan vol. V (1968) and articles in academic journals such as the Journal of Biblical Literature, Palestine Exploration Quarterly and Journal of Semitic Studies , and in the popular press.
(look it up from Amazon)
http://www.johnallegro.org/main/
http://www.skepticfiles.org/cultinfo/allegro.htm
http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/information/biography/abcde/allegro_john.html
http://virtualreligion.net/iho/allegro.html
+ google more :)
Here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M._Allegro
John Marco Allegro (17 February 1923 London - 17 February 1988, his 65th birthday) was a scholar who challenged orthodox views of the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Bible and the history of religion, with books that attracted popular attention and scholarly derision.
Allegro believed that Essenism was the matrix of Christianity. He suggested that there were so many correspondences between the scroll texts and the New Testament — words and phrases, beliefs and practices, Messianic leadership, a teacher who was persecuted and possibly crucified — that he thought the derivation obvious. This brought him into conflict with the Catholic priests on the editing team, and with most church spokesmen, who maintained the orthodox assumption that the arrival of Jesus was the unique, historical, God-given event described in the Gospels. Allegro also started to look in more depth at the way the New Testament appeared to weave together a mix of folklore, myth, incantation and history.
As a philologist, Allegro analysed the derivations of language. He traced biblical words and phrases back to their roots in Sumerian, and showed how Sumerian phonemes recur in varying but related contexts in many Semitic, classical and other Indo-European languages. Although meanings changed to some extent, Allegro found some basic religious ideas passing on through the genealogy of words. His book The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross relates the development of language on Eurasia to the development of myths, religions and cultic practices in many cultures. Allegro believed he could prove through etymology that the roots of Christianity, as of many other religions, lay in fertility cults; and that cultic practices, such as ingesting hallucinogenic drugs to perceive the mind of god, persisted into Christian times.
Allegro believed the Dead Sea Scrolls raised issues that concerned everyone. It wasn't just a matter of dusty manuscripts and disputed translations. Rather, the story of the scrolls raised questions about freedom of access to evidence, freedom of speech, and freedom to challenge orthodox religious views.
"... with the unhappy record of the church for destroying documents and whole libraries of which it disapproved, as well as its predeliction for controlling the reading habits and opportunities of the faithful, one can only continue to be apprehensive about the church's attitude when religiously sensitive information comes into its hands,..." [10]
Allegro believed that through understanding the origins of religion people could be freed from its bonds to think for themselves and take responsibility for their own judgments.
Allegro's thirteen books include The Dead Sea Scrolls (1956), The Treasure of the Copper Scroll (1960), The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross (1970) and The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian Myth (1979) as well as Discoveries in the Judaean Desert of Jordan vol. V (1968) and articles in academic journals such as the Journal of Biblical Literature, Palestine Exploration Quarterly and Journal of Semitic Studies , and in the popular press.
(look it up from Amazon)
http://www.johnallegro.org/main/
http://www.skepticfiles.org/cultinfo/allegro.htm
http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/information/biography/abcde/allegro_john.html
http://virtualreligion.net/iho/allegro.html
+ google more :)
23 April 2010 15:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
& why not add:
Freedom is a Constant Struggle television show from Dec. 4, 2009 The 40th anniversary of the assassination of Fred Hampton. (also about the bombing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H3nk9TJWic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K902wTNToY (part 2)
Humboldt Redwood Company / Civil Disobedience Heroes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Fe6d99gis
Darryl Cherney SoHum 350.org Action in Richardson Grove State Park
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGKbo-mQYrU
Freedom is a Constant Struggle television show from Dec. 4, 2009 The 40th anniversary of the assassination of Fred Hampton. (also about the bombing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H3nk9TJWic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K902wTNToY (part 2)
Humboldt Redwood Company / Civil Disobedience Heroes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Fe6d99gis
Darryl Cherney SoHum 350.org Action in Richardson Grove State Park
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGKbo-mQYrU
23 April 2010 13:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Jesus Was a Mushroom
There was a scholar from England
He got a call from the Pope
He said "Come on down to the Vatican
To analyze the Dead Sea Scrolls"
For twenty years he labored
All alone in a little room
And when he came out he promptly pronounced
That Jesus was a mushroom
Chorus:
Jesus was a mushroom, uh huh
Jesus was a mushroom, uh huh
He was a fungus among us
Born in a manger's dung
Jesus was a mushroom, uh, huh
Now as you can imagine
This did not please the pope
Who said "John M. Allegro
You've been smoking too much dope"
But John, he said "Your holiness
You and I are both adults
And the etymology clearly shows
The apostles were a mushroom cult"
Chorus
So how do you think that he walked on the water
How do you think that he raised the dead
It was just folks hallucinating
On the mushrooms they was fed
Why do you think that the Roman's feared him
Why do you think he was crucified
But you can not kill our savior
You just hang him up to dry
More:
http://www.darrylcherney.com/whitetriballyrics.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_First!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darryl_Cherney
PS: i found this song thanks to Ardavan - so gredits to him & to hes full lenght video in youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/3kamhabsss?feature=mhw5
There was a scholar from England
He got a call from the Pope
He said "Come on down to the Vatican
To analyze the Dead Sea Scrolls"
For twenty years he labored
All alone in a little room
And when he came out he promptly pronounced
That Jesus was a mushroom
Chorus:
Jesus was a mushroom, uh huh
Jesus was a mushroom, uh huh
He was a fungus among us
Born in a manger's dung
Jesus was a mushroom, uh, huh
Now as you can imagine
This did not please the pope
Who said "John M. Allegro
You've been smoking too much dope"
But John, he said "Your holiness
You and I are both adults
And the etymology clearly shows
The apostles were a mushroom cult"
Chorus
So how do you think that he walked on the water
How do you think that he raised the dead
It was just folks hallucinating
On the mushrooms they was fed
Why do you think that the Roman's feared him
Why do you think he was crucified
But you can not kill our savior
You just hang him up to dry
More:
http://www.darrylcherney.com/whitetriballyrics.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_First!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darryl_Cherney
PS: i found this song thanks to Ardavan - so gredits to him & to hes full lenght video in youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/3kamhabsss?feature=mhw5
23 April 2010 13:44
Margus Meigo commented on Kas see kurk saab rohkem fänne kui Edgar Savisaar?'s post.
Tahaks ka talonge lahedale üritusele :D
23 April 2010 13:10
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Nice to see this from CNN :)
22 April 2010 19:13
Margus Meigo commented on Andy FJ C's photo.
Edastatud :)
21 April 2010 01:18
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Uus's post.
Nuuh, varem või hiljem teeme tagant järele, pole hullu :)
20 April 2010 17:04
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Uus's post.
Ma küll kuskile vb kohale ei jõua kuna see päev suht kinni (+ isa synna) kuid igaks juhuks kysin ikkagi... KAS PIDU TULEB @ Erik? :D
20 April 2010 15:56
Margus Meigo commented on Andy FJ C's photo.
PS: Kata saadab tervisi :))
19 April 2010 23:53
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's post.
Huggz!
19 April 2010 14:53
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's post.
:)
19 April 2010 14:53
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's link.
njaa..sealt esimesed revi sammud saigi õpitud kunagi... :)
19 April 2010 07:39
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
I know what you feeling...
( we was smoking up to 4 & wake up 7 AM ... )
( we was smoking up to 4 & wake up 7 AM ... )
19 April 2010 07:38
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Yea, oldgood bicycle ride :))
19 April 2010 07:36
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's post.
:))
19 April 2010 07:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I cant belive i actually spend time for this ... well, maybe back then it seemed fun :)
17 April 2010 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Really... :)
17 April 2010 19:32
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
As original picture about fake terrorist was banned (and my account closed temporally) after my comment - i posted this logo, it seems to be okey... but do you know from where it is? :)
17 April 2010 19:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Version 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Auyj2VZOT2Q
Version 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0CCum130Tg (sacred spirit version)
Version 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0CCum130Tg (sacred spirit version)
17 April 2010 19:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Video in youtube (myspace bought imeem):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHiU36GDaEA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHiU36GDaEA
17 April 2010 19:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
twitter.com/piraadipartei
http://piraadipartei.ee/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Eesti-Piraadipartei/116456088552
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98706922220
http://piraadipartei.ee/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Eesti-Piraadipartei/116456088552
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98706922220
17 April 2010 19:23
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
For the reference - remixes:
Original Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtLgZ4oEtm4
Speadfreak Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpsV9F--X5k
smoke two joints remix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-kdWw5kZ9
Ilsa Gold Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yyu1xjTatQ
Dano no sweat Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRYm1J8ArZg
Dj Stone Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLm5bDQ-MP0
Flamman & Abraxas Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTut4_mTS0U
Original Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtLgZ4oEtm4
Speadfreak Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpsV9F--X5k
smoke two joints remix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-kdWw5kZ9
Ilsa Gold Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yyu1xjTatQ
Dano no sweat Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRYm1J8ArZg
Dj Stone Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLm5bDQ-MP0
Flamman & Abraxas Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTut4_mTS0U
17 April 2010 19:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Artist list also posted in: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=57961033013
Event address: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=335912464003 - ask more detailed questions there!
Event address: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=335912464003 - ask more detailed questions there!
17 April 2010 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Best artist & performers will be from Karjala, Ukraine, Finland, Lithuania, Denmark, Sweden etc... & all around Russia!
There will also be:
Forest Sauna...
Cinema...
Info-Centre...
First Aid .....
Café & Restaurants .....
Tea Rooms & Chai & Coffee Shop ......
Fluoro Bazar ......
Car Parking .....
Lecture Place ...
Healing Area ......
& so much more, take a look!
This is magical 4 days u should not miss!
Give me reply or sms @ +372 566 25552 later on if you happen to go!
There will also be:
Forest Sauna...
Cinema...
Info-Centre...
First Aid .....
Café & Restaurants .....
Tea Rooms & Chai & Coffee Shop ......
Fluoro Bazar ......
Car Parking .....
Lecture Place ...
Healing Area ......
& so much more, take a look!
This is magical 4 days u should not miss!
Give me reply or sms @ +372 566 25552 later on if you happen to go!
17 April 2010 18:00
Margus Meigo commented on Ühtne Eesti Suurkogu's album.
Mulle kuidagi jäi meelde, et viimane kord oli keskerakonnal need lipud sedasi põskede peal :P
Kuid yeah, see selleks.
Miks mis kommid ära kustutati?
Kuid yeah, see selleks.
Miks mis kommid ära kustutati?
17 April 2010 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on Ühtne Eesti Suurkogu's album.
Mulle kuidagi jäi meelde, et viimane kord oli keskerakonnal need lipud sedasi põskede peal :P
Kuid yeah, see selleks.
Miks mis kommid ära kustutati?
Kuid yeah, see selleks.
Miks mis kommid ära kustutati?
17 April 2010 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
ära ennast selle "olen ise takistus" pärast sitasti tunne - you are just like almost everyone else :P
Kuid yea... me siin veedame oma õhtut edasi, täna on väääääga roheline õhtu meil :)
Kuid yea... me siin veedame oma õhtut edasi, täna on väääääga roheline õhtu meil :)
17 April 2010 00:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Ühtegi asja ei ole mis sind takistab elevandiga sõitmisest PEALE su enda mõtete, väärtuste, ego ja paika pandud piiravate reeglite.
Ning reeglid (ning vähemal ja rohkemal määral ka ego kui selline) on omakorda enamustel inimestel ehitatud uskumuste, hirmude ja mitmete mõtetute ühiskonna reeglite najale.
Ei tegelt ka, kui sa tahad siis sa saad seda - peale sinu ei ole ühtegi takistust su teel :)
bdw sa muide kuulasid seda Sir Ken Robinson'i v? :)
et lisa sinna lõppu mõned head tunnid erinevaid Allan Watts'i loenguid ka ning sa oled vähemalt poolel teel elevandi seljas, trust me :P
Ning reeglid (ning vähemal ja rohkemal määral ka ego kui selline) on omakorda enamustel inimestel ehitatud uskumuste, hirmude ja mitmete mõtetute ühiskonna reeglite najale.
Ei tegelt ka, kui sa tahad siis sa saad seda - peale sinu ei ole ühtegi takistust su teel :)
bdw sa muide kuulasid seda Sir Ken Robinson'i v? :)
et lisa sinna lõppu mõned head tunnid erinevaid Allan Watts'i loenguid ka ning sa oled vähemalt poolel teel elevandi seljas, trust me :P
16 April 2010 13:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Elevandiga un parem, trust me :))
16 April 2010 12:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Sama siin :)
See selline lugu, et läheks ja teeks revulutsiooni kohe, sellise poweri annab sisse :D
Mis inglise vs USA protestist arvate? :P
Ma ise arvan, et usas oleks sellise protesti käigus vist päris paljud kuuli saanud või teadmatta kadunud :D
See selline lugu, et läheks ja teeks revulutsiooni kohe, sellise poweri annab sisse :D
Mis inglise vs USA protestist arvate? :P
Ma ise arvan, et usas oleks sellise protesti käigus vist päris paljud kuuli saanud või teadmatta kadunud :D
16 April 2010 11:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
yeah :D
16 April 2010 11:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Lyrics:
The paranoia is in bloom,
The PR transmissions will resume,
They'll try to push drugs to keep us all dumbed down,
And hope that we will never see the truth around,
SO COME ON!
Another promise, another seed,
Another packaged lie to keep us trapped in greed,
With all the green belts wrapped around our minds,
And endless red tape to keep the truth confined,
SO COME ON!
They will not force us,
They will stop degrading us,
They will not control us,
And we will be victorious!
SO COME ON!
Interchanging mind-control,
Come, let the revolution take its toll,
If you could flick a switch and open your third eye,
You'd see that we should never be afraid to die,
SO COME ON!
Rise up and take the power back,
It's time that the fat cats had a heart attack,
You know that their time's coming to an end,
We have to unify and watch our flag ascend!
SO COME ON!
+ one other good video from muse, i specially love first 4 lines:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_sBOsh-vyI
Come ride with me through the veins of history
I'll show you a God who falls asleep on the job
How can we win when fools can be kings?
Don't waste your time or time will waste you
"No one's going to take me alive
The time has come to make things right
You and I must fight for our rights
You and I must fight to survive"
---
If you feel that you do not understand something (lyrics point etc) but you are interested - then PM me, no problem i will try to walk you trough the basics :)
The paranoia is in bloom,
The PR transmissions will resume,
They'll try to push drugs to keep us all dumbed down,
And hope that we will never see the truth around,
SO COME ON!
Another promise, another seed,
Another packaged lie to keep us trapped in greed,
With all the green belts wrapped around our minds,
And endless red tape to keep the truth confined,
SO COME ON!
They will not force us,
They will stop degrading us,
They will not control us,
And we will be victorious!
SO COME ON!
Interchanging mind-control,
Come, let the revolution take its toll,
If you could flick a switch and open your third eye,
You'd see that we should never be afraid to die,
SO COME ON!
Rise up and take the power back,
It's time that the fat cats had a heart attack,
You know that their time's coming to an end,
We have to unify and watch our flag ascend!
SO COME ON!
+ one other good video from muse, i specially love first 4 lines:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_sBOsh-vyI
Come ride with me through the veins of history
I'll show you a God who falls asleep on the job
How can we win when fools can be kings?
Don't waste your time or time will waste you
"No one's going to take me alive
The time has come to make things right
You and I must fight for our rights
You and I must fight to survive"
---
If you feel that you do not understand something (lyrics point etc) but you are interested - then PM me, no problem i will try to walk you trough the basics :)
16 April 2010 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
First i need to mention that i do NOT support Anarchism. I really do NOT believe that with people like THIS (greedy, angry, violent, stupid, egoistic, sadistic, easily manipulated, people with no commonsense, compassion or logic & people who are to passive,has no respect for nature etc) anarchism would bring us ANY good. It would be destruction and most of you "let's take down the government" would be crying for police soon yourself (well i think situation would be more worst then in Animal Farm).
There might be a ways to implement anarchism but (my) methods to make it work would would be to extreme for most i believe:)
I just wanted to point it out that IMHO these people breaking windows & loathing there are are damn idiots. if you want to make protest - make intelligent one that would matter & not make others look like criminals who are looking some fun (kind of reminds me Tallinn riot on 2007 a bit...).
But these facts aside... if you now look USA video the table has been turned and picture is a bit different.
bla bla bla jada jda jaa, anyway, let's go to the videos now!
Violence erupts at G20 protests in London
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5n3JlAUS4M
vs.
G20 Protest Assult and Arrest footage of WeAreChange - USA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmwUUddjQ8k
Long Range Acoustic Device (LRAD) G20 Pittsburgh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSMyY3_dmrM
G20 2009: Police Attack Students at University of Pittsburgh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZGfflHFPHw
+ take look my other Muse video on my second comment!
There might be a ways to implement anarchism but (my) methods to make it work would would be to extreme for most i believe:)
I just wanted to point it out that IMHO these people breaking windows & loathing there are are damn idiots. if you want to make protest - make intelligent one that would matter & not make others look like criminals who are looking some fun (kind of reminds me Tallinn riot on 2007 a bit...).
But these facts aside... if you now look USA video the table has been turned and picture is a bit different.
bla bla bla jada jda jaa, anyway, let's go to the videos now!
Violence erupts at G20 protests in London
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5n3JlAUS4M
vs.
G20 Protest Assult and Arrest footage of WeAreChange - USA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmwUUddjQ8k
Long Range Acoustic Device (LRAD) G20 Pittsburgh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSMyY3_dmrM
G20 2009: Police Attack Students at University of Pittsburgh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZGfflHFPHw
+ take look my other Muse video on my second comment!
16 April 2010 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Irjas-Kopli's post.
Naish :)
13 April 2010 13:11
Margus Meigo commented on Helena Pant's post.
Tere ise ka :))
13 April 2010 11:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
This is not only about Prison experiment like the last video.
Here you see also one of the greatest studies before this (relating to subject), on 1963. Mention about this study is also in MIT video after 30th minute.
& you will see how even human eye vision can go better if someone tells you you need it. Yes - it's real:)
Here you see also one of the greatest studies before this (relating to subject), on 1963. Mention about this study is also in MIT video after 30th minute.
& you will see how even human eye vision can go better if someone tells you you need it. Yes - it's real:)
13 April 2010 02:43
Margus Meigo commented on Seene Nõid's post.
Njeah mul köha juba 4 nädalat, suht haige.
Kui kylma pärast köha on siis odavad Ambroxol Sandroz tablad aitavad kenasti kuid tundub, et miskit muud kuna päris ära pyhitud pole see köha nagu peaks.
See on see pool paljalt trippimine :D
Kui kylma pärast köha on siis odavad Ambroxol Sandroz tablad aitavad kenasti kuid tundub, et miskit muud kuna päris ära pyhitud pole see köha nagu peaks.
See on see pool paljalt trippimine :D
12 April 2010 21:12
Margus Meigo commented on Seene Nõid's post.
mul keelati kooli raadio ligidale minna peale seda kui haridus ministeeriumi tervituseks ma Cool D "Tytar Üksi Kodus", "Viimane Lumi" jms mängima panin "kaotades" raadio ruumi võtme ära.. nii, et see mängis kuni varuvõti leiti u 20 minti xD
12 April 2010 16:28
Margus Meigo commented on Seene Nõid's post.
aaaight! thädz da way to put 'cool' back to school day!
(Y)
(Y)
12 April 2010 16:20
Margus Meigo commented on Seene Nõid's post.
need alati awesame olnud :D
12 April 2010 16:15
Margus Meigo commented on Yoel Infotehnoloog's link.
öeldakse ju - loll un see kes vabandust ei leia :D
10 April 2010 18:17
Margus Meigo commented on Uku Légal's link.
bdw see Uku link un yks mu lemmikuid klippe mis TV kunagi tootnud on :)
9 April 2010 18:52
Margus Meigo commented on Uku Légal's link.
lol
jup, Uku - see on suht uus tase millest ongi raske aru saada, et nagu mitte ainult ei panda laps teleka ette, et ta sealt "kombeid" õpiks vaid lausa kutsutakse televisioon koju lapsi kasvatama. haiglane.
Kuid yeah... ma hakkan mõtlema, et see Carlini osa : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrBVabH6Xl4&feature=related (alates minut 9 ) enesetapu TV kohta hakkab rohkem ja rohkem reaalseks muutuma. Ning kui aus olla siis ma vaataks ka seda vist suurema "huviga" (esimese nädala või nii) kui praeguseid sisse ostetud jurasi. Kuid yeah... kui mida kõike inimesed ei tee, et telekas olla.
Muidugi on ka see hea klip:
George Carlin Over parenting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCAdb7JdygA&feature=related
Ning parim mida vanemad teha saavad lapse jaoks (lisaks neile toidu andmisele ja sexuaalselt mitte ahistamisele) un:
Teach your children to question
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izE4_Jd2dOw&feature=related
jup, Uku - see on suht uus tase millest ongi raske aru saada, et nagu mitte ainult ei panda laps teleka ette, et ta sealt "kombeid" õpiks vaid lausa kutsutakse televisioon koju lapsi kasvatama. haiglane.
Kuid yeah... ma hakkan mõtlema, et see Carlini osa : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrBVabH6Xl4&feature=related (alates minut 9 ) enesetapu TV kohta hakkab rohkem ja rohkem reaalseks muutuma. Ning kui aus olla siis ma vaataks ka seda vist suurema "huviga" (esimese nädala või nii) kui praeguseid sisse ostetud jurasi. Kuid yeah... kui mida kõike inimesed ei tee, et telekas olla.
Muidugi on ka see hea klip:
George Carlin Over parenting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCAdb7JdygA&feature=related
Ning parim mida vanemad teha saavad lapse jaoks (lisaks neile toidu andmisele ja sexuaalselt mitte ahistamisele) un:
Teach your children to question
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izE4_Jd2dOw&feature=related
9 April 2010 18:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
:D
Ääge :P
Kuid synna õllesi ka millalgil tegema tuled? Ma pole veel kindlaks pannud kas reedel , laupäeval või pyhapäeval korraldada :)
Ääge :P
Kuid synna õllesi ka millalgil tegema tuled? Ma pole veel kindlaks pannud kas reedel , laupäeval või pyhapäeval korraldada :)
9 April 2010 13:21
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Irjas-Kopli's post.
Deem :D
nagu for real?? Oot kas see oli see mis uudistes oli v?
nagu for real?? Oot kas see oli see mis uudistes oli v?
9 April 2010 13:10
Margus Meigo commented on Yoel Infotehnoloog's link.
irw, pigem nedest kes seda asja siin tõesti nii eluna võtavad ja igast farmwillesi jms jaburat mängivad või kes ei oska omale privaatsus seadeid seda. Kuid yeah... tõsi ta on - kustutada profiili ei saa :))
muide chatrulettes tõsi ta on - umbes 30% inimestest onavad seal ning u 60% ootab et sa onama hakkaksid (kui naine oled), uskumatu :D
Kuid yeah, fb on minu jaoks töörist selleks millega ma tegelen või tegeleda tahan, midagi rohkemat ma siin teinud eriti ei ole kui esimesel päeval lootsin, et teha saan :)
muide chatrulettes tõsi ta on - umbes 30% inimestest onavad seal ning u 60% ootab et sa onama hakkaksid (kui naine oled), uskumatu :D
Kuid yeah, fb on minu jaoks töörist selleks millega ma tegelen või tegeleda tahan, midagi rohkemat ma siin teinud eriti ei ole kui esimesel päeval lootsin, et teha saan :)
9 April 2010 02:53
Margus Meigo commented on Yoel Infotehnoloog's link.
good one :D
9 April 2010 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on Kadi Viik's link.
Kõlab sexikalt :)
9 April 2010 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Või traktori vargad hoopis :D
9 April 2010 01:39
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Koomik :D
Jätame ikka oma privaatsed fantaasiad omale :P
Jätame ikka oma privaatsed fantaasiad omale :P
9 April 2010 01:14
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Ma olen voodis praegu, koos naisega :P
9 April 2010 01:02
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Ma arvasin ka alguses, et must on raskem kauem facebookis olla ja siin tegutseda kuid näe... Jaak paneb vahest 3-4ni hommikul välja :P
9 April 2010 00:56
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
For these who had hard time to understand this song point i will give you a small hint: replace "dancer" with "puppet"
Song is about are you a free thinker or are you a puppet. Do you let others think for you, plan your life & moove you where they want or can you take your life to your own hands. Cut the string and make desisions yourself...
I hope this was helpful hint for you! :)
Song is about are you a free thinker or are you a puppet. Do you let others think for you, plan your life & moove you where they want or can you take your life to your own hands. Cut the string and make desisions yourself...
I hope this was helpful hint for you! :)
9 April 2010 00:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Here is The Killers - Human song in original:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIZdjT1472Y
Here is the lyrics:
I did my best to notice
When the call came down the line
Up to the platform of surrender
I was brought but I was kind
And sometimes I get nervous
When I see an open door
Close your eyes
Clear your heart...
Cut the cord
Are we human?
Or are we dancer?
My sign is vital
My hands are cold
And I'm on my knees
Looking for the answer
Are we human?
Or are we dancer?
Pay my respects to grace and virtue
Send my condolences to good
Give my regards to soul and romance,
They always did the best they could
And so long to devotion
You taught me everything I know
Wave goodbye
Wish me well..
You've gotta let me go
Are we human?
Or are we dancer?
My sign is vital
My hands are cold
And I'm on my knees
Looking for the answer
Are we human?
Or are we dancer?
Will your system be alright
When you dream of home tonight?
There is no message we're receiving
Let me know is your heart still beating
Are we human?
Or are we dancer?
My sign is vital
My hands are cold
And I'm on my knees
Looking for the answer
You've gotta let me know
Are we human?
Or are we dancer?
My sign is vital
My hands are cold
And I'm on my knees
Looking for the answer
Are we human
Or are we dancer?
Are we human?
Or are we dancer?
Are we human
Or are we dancer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIZdjT1472Y
Here is the lyrics:
I did my best to notice
When the call came down the line
Up to the platform of surrender
I was brought but I was kind
And sometimes I get nervous
When I see an open door
Close your eyes
Clear your heart...
Cut the cord
Are we human?
Or are we dancer?
My sign is vital
My hands are cold
And I'm on my knees
Looking for the answer
Are we human?
Or are we dancer?
Pay my respects to grace and virtue
Send my condolences to good
Give my regards to soul and romance,
They always did the best they could
And so long to devotion
You taught me everything I know
Wave goodbye
Wish me well..
You've gotta let me go
Are we human?
Or are we dancer?
My sign is vital
My hands are cold
And I'm on my knees
Looking for the answer
Are we human?
Or are we dancer?
Will your system be alright
When you dream of home tonight?
There is no message we're receiving
Let me know is your heart still beating
Are we human?
Or are we dancer?
My sign is vital
My hands are cold
And I'm on my knees
Looking for the answer
You've gotta let me know
Are we human?
Or are we dancer?
My sign is vital
My hands are cold
And I'm on my knees
Looking for the answer
Are we human
Or are we dancer?
Are we human?
Or are we dancer?
Are we human
Or are we dancer?
9 April 2010 00:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I almost went to last TEDx Tartu but unfortunately i have missed all of them :(
9 April 2010 00:32
Margus Meigo commented on Marek Prits's link.
Ma ka suht jagan George Carlini mitmeid vaateid mixitult Alan Watts'i omagega mis omakorda suht ühtivad Mareki omadega :P
ehk siis - planeedile teeks see aint head kui me siit kaoksime. Kuid õnneks või kahjuks see nii naljalt ei juhtu, sest võimalusi on ikka väga mitmeid loodud kuidas just need kõige hullemad võimalikult pikaks ajaks ellu jääksid isegi kui nad kõik teiste jaoks persse keeravad. Kuigi alati jääb lootus, et mingi peteoriit pühib platsi puhtaks vms.
See selleks, kuid usun meil OLEKS suht kõva potensiaal teha siin väga suuri ja tegusaid asju kui me ainult kõik korraga oma egodest üle saaksime ning asuksime isetult elama. Saades aru, et see planeet pole meie omand ....- see kõik on muidugi täielik utoopia, et meiesugustega midagi sarnast kunagi juhtuks globaalselt kuid teoorjas võiksime me päris palju vahvaid asju korda saata...
Kuid yeah... momendil enamuste inimeste elu mõtet ma küll ei suuda kuidagi positiivses noodis vaadata ning kuhu me selle affi karjaga jõuda kavatseme... kuid optimistina ma proovin uskuda vahest, et me 100% doomed ei ole, someting to keep me going :)
Kas mõttel ongi alati mõtet vaja?
ehk siis - planeedile teeks see aint head kui me siit kaoksime. Kuid õnneks või kahjuks see nii naljalt ei juhtu, sest võimalusi on ikka väga mitmeid loodud kuidas just need kõige hullemad võimalikult pikaks ajaks ellu jääksid isegi kui nad kõik teiste jaoks persse keeravad. Kuigi alati jääb lootus, et mingi peteoriit pühib platsi puhtaks vms.
See selleks, kuid usun meil OLEKS suht kõva potensiaal teha siin väga suuri ja tegusaid asju kui me ainult kõik korraga oma egodest üle saaksime ning asuksime isetult elama. Saades aru, et see planeet pole meie omand ....- see kõik on muidugi täielik utoopia, et meiesugustega midagi sarnast kunagi juhtuks globaalselt kuid teoorjas võiksime me päris palju vahvaid asju korda saata...
Kuid yeah... momendil enamuste inimeste elu mõtet ma küll ei suuda kuidagi positiivses noodis vaadata ning kuhu me selle affi karjaga jõuda kavatseme... kuid optimistina ma proovin uskuda vahest, et me 100% doomed ei ole, someting to keep me going :)
Kas mõttel ongi alati mõtet vaja?
9 April 2010 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on Joosep Männimets's post.
eks iga staar teab paremini kuidas neil täpselt lumi sulab või millal maas on, inimesed on erinevad :D
8 April 2010 22:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Realli interesting show, take a look:
Penn & Teller - Bullshit - Vatican 1 to 3 part :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e3XXB9LmrI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NTqU6-OUlw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYhVMkXcoEI
Penn & Teller - Bullshit - Vatican 1 to 3 part :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e3XXB9LmrI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NTqU6-OUlw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYhVMkXcoEI
8 April 2010 19:01
Margus Meigo commented on Joosep Männimets's post.
Njea... see esimese lume sõnad on kuldsed :)
8 April 2010 18:27
Margus Meigo commented on Marek Prits's link.
Vahest võtab suht kurvaks kui mõelda kui suur hulk lambaid ilmas. Kui juba nii lihtsale lehele (mis ma esimese mõttena arvasin, et peab iroonia leht olema kuna keegi nii loll ikka ei oleks) nii palju fänne tekkis lühikese ajaga ...
Mõelda vaid mille "heaks" sellised veel hääle annaks. Tuletab natuke meelde http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONd-Yk48R8E ( alates minut 7:40 ) - kus inimesed lihtsalt annavad hääle mille iganes jaoks :D
Eriti naljaks oli, et osad ei häbeneud isegi kurta, et ei saanud oma mäkki kätte :D
Mõelda vaid mille "heaks" sellised veel hääle annaks. Tuletab natuke meelde http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONd-Yk48R8E ( alates minut 7:40 ) - kus inimesed lihtsalt annavad hääle mille iganes jaoks :D
Eriti naljaks oli, et osad ei häbeneud isegi kurta, et ei saanud oma mäkki kätte :D
8 April 2010 18:22
Margus Meigo commented on Uku Légal's link.
Marek: see väga hea video, lapsed peaksitki sellised olema!
Nagu selle asemel, et normaalseid kompromisse leida ja lapsega aus olla ning lasta tal peekonit süüa - milles pole midagi valesti (kui eemaldada muu crapp ja lisades veel kasulike toitaineid) hakkab mingi lambi tsik seal kodus majandama neil TV show ja teatri heaks. Suht jälestan selliseid showsi kuid see päris hea klipp oli. Vaatan hiljem kohe täis osa onlainis ära :P
Suure tõenäosusega pannakse see laps nüüd hiljem mingi isiksus häirete vms ravimite alla mis viimase jupini ta personaalsuse ja isiksuse eemaldab ning ta ühiskonna zombiks muudab.
Kuid muidugi äärmiselt kurb kui nii idiootsed vanemad lastel on... selliseid peaks trahhvima riigi poolt nagu siis kui sul ei ole piisavaid teadmisi, et autoga sõita kuid ikkagi üritad vms. Täitsa imelik, et last võivad igasugused idioodid kasvatada kes ei oska oma lapsele isegi tervislikke toitaineid provaidida rääkimata muust kuid muude lihtsamate asjade jaoks on vaja litsentsi või treeningut.
/me läheb praeb nyyd endale paar suitsu peekonit, mmmmm
Nagu selle asemel, et normaalseid kompromisse leida ja lapsega aus olla ning lasta tal peekonit süüa - milles pole midagi valesti (kui eemaldada muu crapp ja lisades veel kasulike toitaineid) hakkab mingi lambi tsik seal kodus majandama neil TV show ja teatri heaks. Suht jälestan selliseid showsi kuid see päris hea klipp oli. Vaatan hiljem kohe täis osa onlainis ära :P
Suure tõenäosusega pannakse see laps nüüd hiljem mingi isiksus häirete vms ravimite alla mis viimase jupini ta personaalsuse ja isiksuse eemaldab ning ta ühiskonna zombiks muudab.
Kuid muidugi äärmiselt kurb kui nii idiootsed vanemad lastel on... selliseid peaks trahhvima riigi poolt nagu siis kui sul ei ole piisavaid teadmisi, et autoga sõita kuid ikkagi üritad vms. Täitsa imelik, et last võivad igasugused idioodid kasvatada kes ei oska oma lapsele isegi tervislikke toitaineid provaidida rääkimata muust kuid muude lihtsamate asjade jaoks on vaja litsentsi või treeningut.
/me läheb praeb nyyd endale paar suitsu peekonit, mmmmm
8 April 2010 18:09
Margus Meigo commented on Uku Légal's link.
Kuid tegelt on enamuste inimeste aju nii lihtsasti manipuleeritav (eriti veel massina) ja mõjutatav selle poolt mida nad näevad/kuulevad rohkem või tugevamalt, et miskeid suuri x skeeme ja tehnikat/teadust selleks vaja pole kahjuks.
Suurem osa meist on testide põhjal võimeline 'kurjuseks' mida me endale kinnitame, et me kunagi ei tee kuna me oleme need 'head õunad'. Reaalsuses piisab vaid halba korvi neid häid õunu panna ja enamus neist muutub ilma, et nad seda mõistaksid - seda on mitmed testid ja ajalugu ikka ja jälle näidanud ja tõestanud. Ning skeem töötab nagu kellavärk enamuste peal.
Eeltöö, et enamus inimesed ei satuks teedele kus nad võiksid kogematta liialt mõtlema hakata on juba tehtud ning sellese investeeritakse pidevalt. Kuid jah.. see väike protsent on neil alati pinnuks silmas sest see on nagu Linux arvutimaailmas - ta ei domineer veel niipea (kas kunagigi...) kuid välja kohe ka ei sure .. pigem vaikselt ja vaikselt läheb tugevamaks ning imbub sisse kohtadest ning teid pidi kus seda ei saa ega pole arukas enam takistada. Samas ega nad ei tahagi kunagi seda pindu täielikult ka eemaldada - nad vajavad seda teatud piirini omadeks põhjusteks.
Kuid yeah, eks näis how the battle gos with next 50 years, it's gonna be interesting :)
Suurem osa meist on testide põhjal võimeline 'kurjuseks' mida me endale kinnitame, et me kunagi ei tee kuna me oleme need 'head õunad'. Reaalsuses piisab vaid halba korvi neid häid õunu panna ja enamus neist muutub ilma, et nad seda mõistaksid - seda on mitmed testid ja ajalugu ikka ja jälle näidanud ja tõestanud. Ning skeem töötab nagu kellavärk enamuste peal.
Eeltöö, et enamus inimesed ei satuks teedele kus nad võiksid kogematta liialt mõtlema hakata on juba tehtud ning sellese investeeritakse pidevalt. Kuid jah.. see väike protsent on neil alati pinnuks silmas sest see on nagu Linux arvutimaailmas - ta ei domineer veel niipea (kas kunagigi...) kuid välja kohe ka ei sure .. pigem vaikselt ja vaikselt läheb tugevamaks ning imbub sisse kohtadest ning teid pidi kus seda ei saa ega pole arukas enam takistada. Samas ega nad ei tahagi kunagi seda pindu täielikult ka eemaldada - nad vajavad seda teatud piirini omadeks põhjusteks.
Kuid yeah, eks näis how the battle gos with next 50 years, it's gonna be interesting :)
8 April 2010 16:38
Margus Meigo commented on Uku Légal's link.
Irw, they keep trying :P
8 April 2010 15:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://blip.tv/file/3450164
"Well, it's their fault bringing their kids to a battle."
Those words, spoken by a faceless soldier, echo from a classified US military video released by the site Wikileaks.org. The release comes on the heels of the revelation of a cover-up in Afghanistan—and the anniversary of the death of Dr. Martin Luther King, as well as the anniversary of his “Beyond Vietnam” speech.
King spoke to the Clergy and Laity Concerned about Vietnam, saying “It should be incandescently clear that no one who has any concern for the integrity and life of America today can ignore the present war. If America's soul becomes totally poisoned, part of the autopsy must read Vietnam."
Hearing allegations that special forces troops in Afghanistan may have dug the bullets out of their pregnant victims bodies to hide evidence, hearing airmen on the Wikileaks tape begging “Come on, let us shoot!”
"Well, it's their fault bringing their kids to a battle."
Those words, spoken by a faceless soldier, echo from a classified US military video released by the site Wikileaks.org. The release comes on the heels of the revelation of a cover-up in Afghanistan—and the anniversary of the death of Dr. Martin Luther King, as well as the anniversary of his “Beyond Vietnam” speech.
King spoke to the Clergy and Laity Concerned about Vietnam, saying “It should be incandescently clear that no one who has any concern for the integrity and life of America today can ignore the present war. If America's soul becomes totally poisoned, part of the autopsy must read Vietnam."
Hearing allegations that special forces troops in Afghanistan may have dug the bullets out of their pregnant victims bodies to hide evidence, hearing airmen on the Wikileaks tape begging “Come on, let us shoot!”
8 April 2010 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
If anyone would like to comment this video on CNN webiste them go ahead: http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/04/06/iraq.journalists.killed/index.html?dsq=43855175
As much i have heard the coverage of the video has been as minimal as possible (even less then average pop artist related news). So you make your efforts to spread the video and stop the trolls who have hired to comment "this video is fake / they did good thing, saving democrasy!" - thank you!
As much i have heard the coverage of the video has been as minimal as possible (even less then average pop artist related news). So you make your efforts to spread the video and stop the trolls who have hired to comment "this video is fake / they did good thing, saving democrasy!" - thank you!
8 April 2010 15:05
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
`Küll see uni on ikke kerglaste elukommetega - alles üks öö magas mu pool ...
8 April 2010 14:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
This mushroom guy was great, thank you! :)
8 April 2010 01:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I will take look at that, seems interesting.
have u come across Rick Strassman's The Spirit Molecule & related material ? What your idea is about that?
Or your ideas about ayuasca ?
have u come across Rick Strassman's The Spirit Molecule & related material ? What your idea is about that?
Or your ideas about ayuasca ?
8 April 2010 00:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Not really - take a look at the MIT full video, it's pretty much real :)
8 April 2010 00:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Not blaming you at all:)
7 April 2010 23:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
:))
7 April 2010 23:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Well, world do not need saving - people consciousness need. World is OK - people are fucked up.
I will take look at that - sounds familiar :)
I will take look at that - sounds familiar :)
7 April 2010 23:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"natukene" :P
7 April 2010 23:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
ma ei komenteeri parem seda :)
7 April 2010 22:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
If you want more then take look at all other videos (i specially like MIT one)
7 April 2010 22:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Nu aga nedel nais õpilastel oli sama reaktsioon - kuid lihtsalt inimese aju töötab sedasi, sorry kuid sa ei saa kindel olla kuidagi, et sa ei oleks seda lööki andnud talle. Soovitan ikka vaadata - kutsikat elektrit saamas seal ei näidata kuna seda uuringut ei lubatud kunagi täielikult väljastada osalt nii dramaatiliste tulemuste pärast + looma õiguslased jne :)
(ahjaa.. ja kui valida kas sinu enda armas kutsikas või hea tuttav kellele surmava elektri löögi annaksid.. kes siis oleks? Juhul kui mitte valimise korral saavad mõlemad löögi )
(ahjaa.. ja kui valida kas sinu enda armas kutsikas või hea tuttav kellele surmava elektri löögi annaksid.. kes siis oleks? Juhul kui mitte valimise korral saavad mõlemad löögi )
7 April 2010 22:47
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Njeah... Strandberg, Strandberg... :P
7 April 2010 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
In MIT video: What do you think, how big % of usual kind students would give deadly electric shock to this kind small puppy ? % of man are 50%, but how many % of women would do it?
Kind nurturing loving women students? How many of them would go to the end? Find out from this video (starting minute 40).
Kind nurturing loving women students? How many of them would go to the end? Find out from this video (starting minute 40).
7 April 2010 16:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Seda "mälu testi" õpingut nägid ka koos selle vangla testiga eks? (sellest seal MIT videos minutist 30 ka räägitakse)
Ning alates minutist 40 on eriti hirmutav fakt, kus klassi ruum tavalisi õpilasi kutsikale surmava elektri löögi annavad. Mis arvad kui suur % mehi ja kui suur % naisi seda teeks?
Ning alates minutist 40 on eriti hirmutav fakt, kus klassi ruum tavalisi õpilasi kutsikale surmava elektri löögi annavad. Mis arvad kui suur % mehi ja kui suur % naisi seda teeks?
7 April 2010 15:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
About Prison Experiment video:
"For this study, a small group of college students volunteered to be subjects and were carefully tested for sound psychological and physical health. Half of the students were randomly selected to act as prisoners, the other half to act as guards. The study took place in a simulated jail facility in the Stanford University Psychology Department.
Once the study subjects entered the simulated jail, uniforms, rules, and other details distinguished the two groups from each other, and blurred the line between the reality of the study and life in prison. The students spent much of the day cramped in tiny cells, undergoing physical trials, and enduring the overall claustrophobic atmosphere of a small jail 24 hours a day. The guards, however, were allowed to return to their homes and normal surroundings after their shifts.
What happened during the study, originally planned to last two weeks, was more dramatic than anyone had anticipated, even the researchers themselves."
"For this study, a small group of college students volunteered to be subjects and were carefully tested for sound psychological and physical health. Half of the students were randomly selected to act as prisoners, the other half to act as guards. The study took place in a simulated jail facility in the Stanford University Psychology Department.
Once the study subjects entered the simulated jail, uniforms, rules, and other details distinguished the two groups from each other, and blurred the line between the reality of the study and life in prison. The students spent much of the day cramped in tiny cells, undergoing physical trials, and enduring the overall claustrophobic atmosphere of a small jail 24 hours a day. The guards, however, were allowed to return to their homes and normal surroundings after their shifts.
What happened during the study, originally planned to last two weeks, was more dramatic than anyone had anticipated, even the researchers themselves."
7 April 2010 15:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kui tõsisemat versiooni sellest näha tahad siis vaata seda MIT videot :)
7 April 2010 15:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
If you want to get to the pictures directly then put this video on 20th minute directly: http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/459
- and people who you see smiling there are usual good resposible family mothers & faters.
- and people who you see smiling there are usual good resposible family mothers & faters.
7 April 2010 15:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I say: Ignorance is source of ALL Evil. - if there is thing called "evil".
If you was disturbed by these video pictures i posted - then you probably haven't stop and think that we here in Europe.. just some time ago burned live people, rip them part etc... and to go and see this was considered family activity - like going to movies with children. Or like looking TV today. ...wait a minute, aren't many 'good' people today look murder and killing from TV ? Yes, it's not "real" ... but it does satisfy our passion right? If "good" guy kills some really really "bad" guy in the end of movie... aren't you feeling good (or better) in the end of movie (consider if it would be reversed now..)? If you feel OK after you see 'bad' guy get killed then you DO enjoy killing for sore. If you look these videos then you understand how easily these situations can be transfered to real life and real killings & torture.
& do i hate world or people because i have realized that most of the world is filled with ignorant or psychopathic (sometimes even intelligent) people who can be turned to murderers or 'evil ' with easy psycological tricks?
Should i?
If you was disturbed by these video pictures i posted - then you probably haven't stop and think that we here in Europe.. just some time ago burned live people, rip them part etc... and to go and see this was considered family activity - like going to movies with children. Or like looking TV today. ...wait a minute, aren't many 'good' people today look murder and killing from TV ? Yes, it's not "real" ... but it does satisfy our passion right? If "good" guy kills some really really "bad" guy in the end of movie... aren't you feeling good (or better) in the end of movie (consider if it would be reversed now..)? If you feel OK after you see 'bad' guy get killed then you DO enjoy killing for sore. If you look these videos then you understand how easily these situations can be transfered to real life and real killings & torture.
& do i hate world or people because i have realized that most of the world is filled with ignorant or psychopathic (sometimes even intelligent) people who can be turned to murderers or 'evil ' with easy psycological tricks?
Should i?
7 April 2010 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
And even better & longer one: (2 hour) MIT video:
The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil
http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/459
Perhaps no one comprehends the roots of depravity and cruelty better than Philip Zimbardo. He is renowned for such research as the Stanford Prison Experiment, which demonstrated how, in the right circumstances, ordinary people can swiftly become amoral monsters. Evil is not so much inherent in individuals, Zimbardo showed, but emerges dependably when a sequence of dehumanizing and stressful circumstances unfolds. It is no wonder then, that Zimbardo has lent both his expertise and moral outrage to the case of U.S. reservists who perpetrated the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison.
Zimbardo’s latest book, The Lucifer Effect, attempts to understand “how good people do evil deeds.” His talk outlines his involvement as expert witness for the defense team of one of the military police officers responsible at Abu Ghraib, and also provides a rich history of psychological research into the kind of behavior transformations evident in Iraq. First, Zimbardo presents a slideshow of Abu Ghraib abominations, including some digital photos that were not widely distributed by the media. Then he digs deep into the archives for a horrifically illustrated tour of experiments that make a persuasive case that certain, predictable situations corrupt people into wielding power in a destructive way.
He describes Stanley Milgram’s 1963 Yale-based research demonstrating that people will behave sadistically when confronted by “an authority in a lab coat.” A vast majority of the subjects delivered what they were told were dangerous electric shocks to a learner in another room, to the point of apparently killing the other person. Researchers skeptical of his results replicated them. This time, professors demanded that students shock real puppies standing on electrified grills. Zimbardo’s own prison experiment turned an ordinary group of young men into power-hungry “guards,” humiliating equally ordinary “prisoners” in the basement of Stanford’s psychology building. The descent into barbarity was so rapid that Zimbardo had to cancel the experiment after a few days.
The recipe for behavior change isn’t complicated. “All evil begins with a big lie,” says Zimbardo, whether it’s a claim to be following the word of God, or the need to stamp out political opposition. A seemingly insignificant step follows, with successive small actions, presented as essential by an apparently just authority figure. The situation presents others complying with the same rules, perhaps protesting, but following along all the same. If the victims are anonymous or dehumanized somehow, all the better. And exiting the situation is extremely difficult.
Abu Ghraib fit this type of situation to a T, says Zimbardo. The guards, never trained for their work helping military interrogators, worked 12-hour shifts, 40 days without a break, in chaotic, filthy conditions, facing 1,000 foreign prisoners, and hostile fire from the neighborhood. They operated in extreme stress, under orders to impose fear on their prisoners. Zimbardo believes the outcome was perfectly predictable, and while never absolving these soldiers of personal responsibility, believes justice won’t be done until “the people who created the situation go on trial as well: George Tenet, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and George Bush.”
The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil
http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/459
Perhaps no one comprehends the roots of depravity and cruelty better than Philip Zimbardo. He is renowned for such research as the Stanford Prison Experiment, which demonstrated how, in the right circumstances, ordinary people can swiftly become amoral monsters. Evil is not so much inherent in individuals, Zimbardo showed, but emerges dependably when a sequence of dehumanizing and stressful circumstances unfolds. It is no wonder then, that Zimbardo has lent both his expertise and moral outrage to the case of U.S. reservists who perpetrated the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison.
Zimbardo’s latest book, The Lucifer Effect, attempts to understand “how good people do evil deeds.” His talk outlines his involvement as expert witness for the defense team of one of the military police officers responsible at Abu Ghraib, and also provides a rich history of psychological research into the kind of behavior transformations evident in Iraq. First, Zimbardo presents a slideshow of Abu Ghraib abominations, including some digital photos that were not widely distributed by the media. Then he digs deep into the archives for a horrifically illustrated tour of experiments that make a persuasive case that certain, predictable situations corrupt people into wielding power in a destructive way.
He describes Stanley Milgram’s 1963 Yale-based research demonstrating that people will behave sadistically when confronted by “an authority in a lab coat.” A vast majority of the subjects delivered what they were told were dangerous electric shocks to a learner in another room, to the point of apparently killing the other person. Researchers skeptical of his results replicated them. This time, professors demanded that students shock real puppies standing on electrified grills. Zimbardo’s own prison experiment turned an ordinary group of young men into power-hungry “guards,” humiliating equally ordinary “prisoners” in the basement of Stanford’s psychology building. The descent into barbarity was so rapid that Zimbardo had to cancel the experiment after a few days.
The recipe for behavior change isn’t complicated. “All evil begins with a big lie,” says Zimbardo, whether it’s a claim to be following the word of God, or the need to stamp out political opposition. A seemingly insignificant step follows, with successive small actions, presented as essential by an apparently just authority figure. The situation presents others complying with the same rules, perhaps protesting, but following along all the same. If the victims are anonymous or dehumanized somehow, all the better. And exiting the situation is extremely difficult.
Abu Ghraib fit this type of situation to a T, says Zimbardo. The guards, never trained for their work helping military interrogators, worked 12-hour shifts, 40 days without a break, in chaotic, filthy conditions, facing 1,000 foreign prisoners, and hostile fire from the neighborhood. They operated in extreme stress, under orders to impose fear on their prisoners. Zimbardo believes the outcome was perfectly predictable, and while never absolving these soldiers of personal responsibility, believes justice won’t be done until “the people who created the situation go on trial as well: George Tenet, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and George Bush.”
7 April 2010 14:56
Margus Meigo commented on Kas see kurk saab rohkem fänne kui Edgar Savisaar?'s post.
Marek- tasuta mäacbooke kui liitud? Mida sa suitsetasid? Anna mulle ka seda kraami :D
7 April 2010 14:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Uukey :))
7 April 2010 14:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Full lenght 46 minute:
Art, Truth & Politics
Harold Pinter's Nobel Lecture was pre-recorded, and shown on video on 7 December 2005, in Börssalen at the Swedish Academy in Stockholm.
http://nobelprize.org/mediaplayer/index.php?id=620
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY2Z27Y-HJE
Art, Truth & Politics
Harold Pinter's Nobel Lecture was pre-recorded, and shown on video on 7 December 2005, in Börssalen at the Swedish Academy in Stockholm.
http://nobelprize.org/mediaplayer/index.php?id=620
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY2Z27Y-HJE
7 April 2010 04:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Head ööd Kalli-Kalli :))
7 April 2010 04:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Mulle! :D
Muide kas 10'ndal ArtCafeese tuled? (vaata psytrance foorumist evente)
Muide kas 10'ndal ArtCafeese tuled? (vaata psytrance foorumist evente)
7 April 2010 04:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
36?!?! See mingi pettus! Elu24's rääkis et 40 fotot ja üks mobiili video pidi olema!!! Ma uurin seda asja veel, kahtlane tundub, we have been lied to!!!
:D
:D
7 April 2010 04:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Nu eks selliseid uudiseid proovitakse niii minimalistlikult main strami uudistesse lasta kui võimalik - olulisem on ju inimestel teada kes võitis tantsud tähtedega, kelle mingi staar maha jättis või muud sarnast eluks vajalikku.
Ma selle pärast olengi ammu loobunud vaatamast uudistest mida mulle antakse ning tegelenud ise uudiste otsimisega :)
Ma selle pärast olengi ammu loobunud vaatamast uudistest mida mulle antakse ning tegelenud ise uudiste otsimisega :)
7 April 2010 03:58
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Jup :)
7 April 2010 03:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Vut, siis ju suht common knowledge :)
yeah... karm.
Kuid see wiki leaks video on ikka väga kõva sest valitsus jõudis nii palju paska selle kohta ajada varem kuna oli kindel, et see välja ei tule. Ning see ei ole enam, et keegi jackaas tegi midagi millest kõrgematel polnud õrna aimugi enne fotode välja ilmumist... see otsene 100% video tõestus niiii paljust..
yeah... karm.
Kuid see wiki leaks video on ikka väga kõva sest valitsus jõudis nii palju paska selle kohta ajada varem kuna oli kindel, et see välja ei tule. Ning see ei ole enam, et keegi jackaas tegi midagi millest kõrgematel polnud õrna aimugi enne fotode välja ilmumist... see otsene 100% video tõestus niiii paljust..
7 April 2010 03:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Zimbardo
7 April 2010 03:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
"Stanford prison experiment"
Explains scary facts about us. Next time you have 20 people in the room, then u can calculate how many people from there (friends, family) are able to commit these horrors..
http://www.prisonexp.org/
http://www.experiment-resources.com/stanford-prison-experiment.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
http://news.stanford.edu/pr/97/970108prisonexp.html
(postitan video linke ka juurde, loe enne)
Explains scary facts about us. Next time you have 20 people in the room, then u can calculate how many people from there (friends, family) are able to commit these horrors..
http://www.prisonexp.org/
http://www.experiment-resources.com/stanford-prison-experiment.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
http://news.stanford.edu/pr/97/970108prisonexp.html
(postitan video linke ka juurde, loe enne)
7 April 2010 03:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Mul endal mingit üllatus momenti või ehamtust ei olnud, kuid jagasin kuna minu suuremaks üllatuseks suurem osa inimesi usub, et sellised juhtumised on harvad. See kindlasti ääretult tagasihoidlik video võrreldes sellega millega meie armsad inimesed hakkama saavad...
...ning sellisteks (ja hullemateks) asjadeks on ENAMUS inimesi võimalised kui neile ainult võimalus, motiiv ja privaatsus antakse, see teaduslikult tõestatud ...
Võin visata lingi kui huvitab :)
...ning sellisteks (ja hullemateks) asjadeks on ENAMUS inimesi võimalised kui neile ainult võimalus, motiiv ja privaatsus antakse, see teaduslikult tõestatud ...
Võin visata lingi kui huvitab :)
7 April 2010 03:13
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Nuh, kui puude kallistamine energjat toodaks mida annaks DC'x konvertida siis tuleks see kallistamine lausa kohustuslikuks teha - kuid ega see kallistamine paha ei tee kui just fanaatiliseks ei minda ja "rohelist" olemist religiooniks või sektiks ei pöörata - selle teemalised videod ka lõpus :)
Alati on lihtne rääkida mis on halb kuid midagi reaalset asemele pakuvad vähesed mis oleks täielik alatine kindel lahendus.
Meil ON juba nn järgmise põlvkonna tuumajaamad, neljanda järgu omad on ehk tulekul järgneva 20-30'ne aasta jooksul. Kuid juba praegused on väga kiiduväärt.
Momendil 3. generatsiooni jaamad http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf08.html / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_III_reactor (esimene neist läks tööse 14 aastat tagasi) oleks rohkem kui turvalised ning selleks ajaks kui nede aeg ümber saab (u 60 aastat) on juba väga suure tõenäosusega uued tehnoloogiad olemas. Kui ei ole siis saab selle generaatori iga veel 60 aasta võrra pikendada. Või natuke vähem, oleneb mis jaam ja mis tehnoloogiaga. Kuid nagu ma ütlesin - sellest tuule generaatoritest on kindlasti paremaid lahendusi (peale tuumajaama). Ning erinevaid lahendusi on testitud ja tõestatud, et töötavad väga mitmete teadlaste poolt - kuid investorid ei anna sadu millioneid kellegile kelle tehnoloogiat ei lubata patendeerida (nagu ma ennist ütlesin). Seni kuni maailm nii kvipea on - ma toetan tuuma energjat täie sydamega.
Ise, (oma moodi) spirituaalse inimesena arvan, et väga suur hulk "rohelisi" on hunnik pettureid kes tegelikult lihtsalt kasseerivad oma projectidega raha sisse (ning enamus ülejäänud naiivitarid). Õnneks see utoopiline kliima soojenemise pettus tuli välja millest jahutud on pikalt ja pikalt nende poolt ning mille läbi igast jaburdusi peale suruti (muidugi ka lisaks kasulikele ja vajalikele asjadele). Kuid see pettus ka lõplikult alles peale seda arusaadavaks enamuste jaoks sai kui häkkerid emaili baasi sisse murtsid ja info WikiLeaksi abil avalikuks tegid.
Seal Al Gori organisatsioonil (ning muudel "rohelistel") on usas lausa pangakonto ja weebileht mille kaudu sai neile iga päev raha maksta oma loodus reostamise eest - nagu indulgentse said endale lausa ette osta.
Siin teemakohased videod kah kui huvi un - sest just sellist sarnast taktikat kasutavad ka mitmed Eesti kuulsad rohelised :P
Penn & Teller: Global Warming
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONd-Yk48R8E (vee bännimine, green peace - kes ka suuresti tuulikute taga on mitmel pool)
Bullshit Being Green
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhnFT_as1eU (part1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaBKN4NuLug&NR=1 (alates 5-6 minut,indulgents )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWVJSiaXwxo&NR=1 (alates minut, Al Gore bullshit 3)
Alati on lihtne rääkida mis on halb kuid midagi reaalset asemele pakuvad vähesed mis oleks täielik alatine kindel lahendus.
Meil ON juba nn järgmise põlvkonna tuumajaamad, neljanda järgu omad on ehk tulekul järgneva 20-30'ne aasta jooksul. Kuid juba praegused on väga kiiduväärt.
Momendil 3. generatsiooni jaamad http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf08.html / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_III_reactor (esimene neist läks tööse 14 aastat tagasi) oleks rohkem kui turvalised ning selleks ajaks kui nede aeg ümber saab (u 60 aastat) on juba väga suure tõenäosusega uued tehnoloogiad olemas. Kui ei ole siis saab selle generaatori iga veel 60 aasta võrra pikendada. Või natuke vähem, oleneb mis jaam ja mis tehnoloogiaga. Kuid nagu ma ütlesin - sellest tuule generaatoritest on kindlasti paremaid lahendusi (peale tuumajaama). Ning erinevaid lahendusi on testitud ja tõestatud, et töötavad väga mitmete teadlaste poolt - kuid investorid ei anna sadu millioneid kellegile kelle tehnoloogiat ei lubata patendeerida (nagu ma ennist ütlesin). Seni kuni maailm nii kvipea on - ma toetan tuuma energjat täie sydamega.
Ise, (oma moodi) spirituaalse inimesena arvan, et väga suur hulk "rohelisi" on hunnik pettureid kes tegelikult lihtsalt kasseerivad oma projectidega raha sisse (ning enamus ülejäänud naiivitarid). Õnneks see utoopiline kliima soojenemise pettus tuli välja millest jahutud on pikalt ja pikalt nende poolt ning mille läbi igast jaburdusi peale suruti (muidugi ka lisaks kasulikele ja vajalikele asjadele). Kuid see pettus ka lõplikult alles peale seda arusaadavaks enamuste jaoks sai kui häkkerid emaili baasi sisse murtsid ja info WikiLeaksi abil avalikuks tegid.
Seal Al Gori organisatsioonil (ning muudel "rohelistel") on usas lausa pangakonto ja weebileht mille kaudu sai neile iga päev raha maksta oma loodus reostamise eest - nagu indulgentse said endale lausa ette osta.
Siin teemakohased videod kah kui huvi un - sest just sellist sarnast taktikat kasutavad ka mitmed Eesti kuulsad rohelised :P
Penn & Teller: Global Warming
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONd-Yk48R8E (vee bännimine, green peace - kes ka suuresti tuulikute taga on mitmel pool)
Bullshit Being Green
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhnFT_as1eU (part1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaBKN4NuLug&NR=1 (alates 5-6 minut,indulgents )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWVJSiaXwxo&NR=1 (alates minut, Al Gore bullshit 3)
7 April 2010 03:09
Margus Meigo commented on Erik Epistoletto's link.
Irw, minu arust kõik kes on nii lollid, et selliste asjade õnge lähevad - neilt tulebki raha ära võtta, maailm pole midagi sellega kaotanud, pigem võitnud :D
7 April 2010 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on Lauri Leino's link.
Liiga hea :D
7 April 2010 00:45
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Stranbergi usaldusega ma nii palju ei tegeleks kuna mul kogemusi, et ta on rääkinud suuremeelselt asjadest toonil nagu ta teaks millest räägib kuid tegelt ei ole õrga aimugi. Tookord küll ei olnud tegu energeetikat puudutava teemaga kuid see juba vähendab tublisti usalduvust inimese vastu ja paneb tugevalt ka muus kahtlema mida ta väidab teadvalt.
Samas meil on VÄGA suur oht olemas ja suht katastroofiline - praegused kaevandused ( esiteks ). Tuumajaamad on ühed turvalisemad elektri jaamad ning see mida plaaniti Eestisse teha oli kolmanda generatsioooni oma - väike, efektiivne ja turvaline. See saaste mis tuuma jäägist tuleks Eestis oleks nii minimalistlik võreldes muu maailmaga, et see lausa naeruväärselt väike. Terrori ohuga vms utoopilisega seda siduda on jabur kuna ükski terrorist ega "terrorist" ei oleks nii aju puudulik, et isegi mõtleks siit plutooniumi hankimisele.
Seni kuni Zero Energy asju ei lubata tootma hakata (kuna ei anta patente) ja ei arendata neid - seni on uued 3'nda ja 4'nda järgu tuuma jaamad üks kõige rohelisem energia millest me unistada võime.
Samas meil on VÄGA suur oht olemas ja suht katastroofiline - praegused kaevandused ( esiteks ). Tuumajaamad on ühed turvalisemad elektri jaamad ning see mida plaaniti Eestisse teha oli kolmanda generatsioooni oma - väike, efektiivne ja turvaline. See saaste mis tuuma jäägist tuleks Eestis oleks nii minimalistlik võreldes muu maailmaga, et see lausa naeruväärselt väike. Terrori ohuga vms utoopilisega seda siduda on jabur kuna ükski terrorist ega "terrorist" ei oleks nii aju puudulik, et isegi mõtleks siit plutooniumi hankimisele.
Seni kuni Zero Energy asju ei lubata tootma hakata (kuna ei anta patente) ja ei arendata neid - seni on uued 3'nda ja 4'nda järgu tuuma jaamad üks kõige rohelisem energia millest me unistada võime.
7 April 2010 00:36
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's note.
So who are these scientists and where this discovery's has been printed in other places then sect like spiritual webistes? Most of the pages show 2009 but one show "printed 2004" .. i just wondering about this well written essay...
If anyone has any more credible sources?
I would like to get links in russian and russia literature as there should be a LOT of info about it, with names etc.
If anyone has any more credible sources?
I would like to get links in russian and russia literature as there should be a LOT of info about it, with names etc.
6 April 2010 13:38
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Geiger-Howiler's video.
I think i have most Allan Watt's videos and lectures in other computer. I reccomend also take look and google videos - it can find some good sites :)
6 April 2010 13:19
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
:D
6 April 2010 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
More links: http://www.collateralmurder.com/
2 facebok pages (might not be offical but posts are real):
http://www.facebook.com/pages/WikiLeaks/10150101415735657
http://www.facebook.com/pages/wikileaks/257241943278
Latest leaks: http://twitter.com/wikileaks
2 facebok pages (might not be offical but posts are real):
http://www.facebook.com/pages/WikiLeaks/10150101415735657
http://www.facebook.com/pages/wikileaks/257241943278
Latest leaks: http://twitter.com/wikileaks
6 April 2010 02:45
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
LAUL NÕUKOGUDE AATOMIST
(I. Orro / S. Mihhalkov)
Proovisime hiljaaegu katsetega oma jõudu.
Aina rõõmustama peab, tagajärjed olid head.
Katse kordaläinud on - seal, kus vaja, lõhkes pomm.
Kellestki ei jää me maha, meie aatom pole paha.
Kuulsid sellest kõmu tehes välismaised ajalehed.
Tõstsid kisa, kära, hüüd: "Lõpp me saladusel nüüd!"
Venelastel - nüüd ka neil on, mis oli ainult meil.
Kuidas julgesid küll nemad? Truman ka ei aimand seda!
Kinnitas meil Stalin ise - meie pommi proovisime,
mitmed suured katsed veel on me teadusmeestel ees.
Pomme on! Ja pomme saab! Seda kindlalt arvesta!
Kuid me iialgi ei taha võõraid riike vallutada.
Ära keelata meil tahe surmav jõud see, hirmus pahe,
tahame, et aatomtuum ainult õnne tooks, ei muud.
Aga teil on kaval nõu teistel keelata see jõud,
et siis aatom üksnes teeniks Ühendriigi röövleid peeni
(I. Orro / S. Mihhalkov)
Proovisime hiljaaegu katsetega oma jõudu.
Aina rõõmustama peab, tagajärjed olid head.
Katse kordaläinud on - seal, kus vaja, lõhkes pomm.
Kellestki ei jää me maha, meie aatom pole paha.
Kuulsid sellest kõmu tehes välismaised ajalehed.
Tõstsid kisa, kära, hüüd: "Lõpp me saladusel nüüd!"
Venelastel - nüüd ka neil on, mis oli ainult meil.
Kuidas julgesid küll nemad? Truman ka ei aimand seda!
Kinnitas meil Stalin ise - meie pommi proovisime,
mitmed suured katsed veel on me teadusmeestel ees.
Pomme on! Ja pomme saab! Seda kindlalt arvesta!
Kuid me iialgi ei taha võõraid riike vallutada.
Ära keelata meil tahe surmav jõud see, hirmus pahe,
tahame, et aatomtuum ainult õnne tooks, ei muud.
Aga teil on kaval nõu teistel keelata see jõud,
et siis aatom üksnes teeniks Ühendriigi röövleid peeni
6 April 2010 02:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
& then we call them terrorists if theyr friends or family members manage sometimes hit back a little by straping a bomb belt around them... yes, i am sore at least half of "terror acts" might be real. Gov's like that (we only have few of them who act like that) do not need to make fake terrorist attacks all the time if theyr millitary work like that.
If i can still make it up to next year then my next desination in my travel routes are Iraq, Iran, Afganistan, Chechnya etc - i will let you guys know next year :)
If i can still make it up to next year then my next desination in my travel routes are Iraq, Iran, Afganistan, Chechnya etc - i will let you guys know next year :)
6 April 2010 02:23
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Õige! :D
6 April 2010 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2010/04/20104520036138869.html - video & video comments from wikileaks. shourt some minutes.
17 minute shooting video with small notes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0
Full 39 minute video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is9sxRfU-ik
17 minute shooting video with small notes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0
Full 39 minute video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is9sxRfU-ik
6 April 2010 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Nuh, eks omakorda paljud neist vähestest kes suvatsevad küsida "mis elu mõte on" omakorda raiskavad selle aja mõtte otsimisele selle asemel, et elada ning (elu)lainega kaasa minna ... ja nautida seda kõike mida see maailm pakub seni kuni siin veel oleme :)
Eks mul omad teoorjad ka elu mõtte osas kuid ma ei raska liialt aega sellele, et selle üle pidevalt mõelda miks me siin oleme ja kas sel on mõtet.
Selleks veel vaja palju rännakuid teha ja palju asju kogeda.
Arvan, et seni kuni me ennast liiga tähtsaks ei pea, elame maailmale mitte ainult endale ning mõtleme ise mitte ei lase endale öelda mida mõelda... seni peaks kõik suhteliselt korras meiega olema ning ei saa väga kõrvale sellest mõttest minna isegi kui ei tea mis see "mõte" täpsemalt on.
Vb see küsimus nagu "mis on armastus", kas selles seisundis on lihtsam olla või seda kirjeldada kolmandale isikule nii, et ta täpselt sind mõistaks ilma, et ta seda varem tundnud oleks
Eks mul omad teoorjad ka elu mõtte osas kuid ma ei raska liialt aega sellele, et selle üle pidevalt mõelda miks me siin oleme ja kas sel on mõtet.
Selleks veel vaja palju rännakuid teha ja palju asju kogeda.
Arvan, et seni kuni me ennast liiga tähtsaks ei pea, elame maailmale mitte ainult endale ning mõtleme ise mitte ei lase endale öelda mida mõelda... seni peaks kõik suhteliselt korras meiega olema ning ei saa väga kõrvale sellest mõttest minna isegi kui ei tea mis see "mõte" täpsemalt on.
Vb see küsimus nagu "mis on armastus", kas selles seisundis on lihtsam olla või seda kirjeldada kolmandale isikule nii, et ta täpselt sind mõistaks ilma, et ta seda varem tundnud oleks
6 April 2010 00:50
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Vaadates kuidas seadusi kasutatakse jääb kyll selline mulje.
6 April 2010 00:18
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Leiab kuid ma lihtsalt olen loobunud sellest, et mulle uudiseid ette söödetakse ja otsin ise uudiseid - vb selle pärast ei panegi tähele, et tast nii palju räägitud on.
Kuid midagi miks ja kuidas see facebook tegelt hea on - sellest seal juttu pole. Tehniline pool, marketing, psüholoogia, innovatiivsed rahategemis võimalused, kasulikus kasutajale, turvalisus, väga head privaatsus settingud (mida enamus kyll ei kasuta) jne - kõik nad vajaksid suurt seletamist, et natukenegi võõras aru saaks mis ja miks on facebook. Kui rääkida ainult ühest küljest siis see ei ole kindlasti see mis FB edasi viib.
Lisaks on facebookil oma lobi ja PR inimesed palgatud igal maal kelle töö on teha igast asjast uudist - ka see on üks põhjus miks nad nii popid on lisaks muudele (muidugi viimane pole otseselt offcial public info...).
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Inimesed peaksid pigem rääkima lehtedest nagu Wikileaks ja muud sarnased organisatsioonid... kuid millegi pärast ainult erameedia räägib neist minimaalselt.
Muidugi viimase nipiga selle video suhtes mis nad täna avalikustasid said nad ka nii mõnesegi main strami uudistesse... kuid enamuste jaoks on see uudis järgmiseks nädalaks unustatud.
Kuid midagi miks ja kuidas see facebook tegelt hea on - sellest seal juttu pole. Tehniline pool, marketing, psüholoogia, innovatiivsed rahategemis võimalused, kasulikus kasutajale, turvalisus, väga head privaatsus settingud (mida enamus kyll ei kasuta) jne - kõik nad vajaksid suurt seletamist, et natukenegi võõras aru saaks mis ja miks on facebook. Kui rääkida ainult ühest küljest siis see ei ole kindlasti see mis FB edasi viib.
Lisaks on facebookil oma lobi ja PR inimesed palgatud igal maal kelle töö on teha igast asjast uudist - ka see on üks põhjus miks nad nii popid on lisaks muudele (muidugi viimane pole otseselt offcial public info...).
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Inimesed peaksid pigem rääkima lehtedest nagu Wikileaks ja muud sarnased organisatsioonid... kuid millegi pärast ainult erameedia räägib neist minimaalselt.
Muidugi viimase nipiga selle video suhtes mis nad täna avalikustasid said nad ka nii mõnesegi main strami uudistesse... kuid enamuste jaoks on see uudis järgmiseks nädalaks unustatud.
6 April 2010 00:08
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Eks see paragraafi märk olegi selle pärast kõverikuke :P
6 April 2010 00:00
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Eks see paragraafi märk olegi selle pärast kõverike :P
5 April 2010 23:59
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Maxi - ükski terve ning avatud mõistusega intelligentne inimene ei ole lihtsalt parem või vasak poolne kõikides asjades. Olla tuleb ISIKSUS mitte mingi asi ja poliitliline leibel ilma sisu ning originaalse mõttevõimeta. Kindlasti ei tohiks puududa ka kriitikameel oma maailmavaate ja erakonna suhtes ( juhul kui just tegu päris lambaga ei ole - siis see liiast nõutud muidugi).
Parem ja vasak äärmuslastel ei ole suurt vahet ning mõlemad on normaalset arengut pidurdavad maailmavaated. Mitte, et meil eriti palju poliitikas parem äärmuslikust oleks kuid igast haiget põhimõtetest enesehävitusliku kinni hoidmist on näha kül vahestl.
Ning kas mitte just keskerakonna stiil ei ole teistele siltide kaela määrimine ilma igasuguse loogika ja tõestuseta - ma ei arva, et mina olen see kes siin sellega tegeleb... kuid muidugi ma pole vb nii sügavalt kursis nende poliitikaga ja ei pruugi teada milles nad meistrid on.
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Oled sa muidu vaevunud lugema Reformi ja IRL'i põhikirja või analüüsima nende lubadusi? Ausalt? Ei ytleks, et väga suuri paraleele nii mõneskis osas keskikutega tõmmata ei saaks. Samas jälle, eks lammastele tuleb ka midagi lubada seni kuni elatakse nii ebademokraatlikus korras kus igal idioodil ja lollil on õigus hääletada ilma hääletus litsensita isegi kui tal õrna aimu ei ole kelle poolt ta hääletab või miks. Autoga sõitmiseks ja mitmeks muud asjaks küsitakse vähemalt minimaalsete teadmiste ja põhitõdede tundmist kuid riigi juhtimiseks võib iga loll keda iganes hääletada, täiesti arusaamatu ning ebaõiglane kõigi suhtes. Pealegi mida lollim on inimene seda kergemini ta on manipuleeritav - seega see topelt ohtlik, et igaüks hääletada võib.
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Ahjaa,
lisaks soovitan sul minna ja uurida mis on iroonia, metafoori, sarkasmi ja demagoogia jms vahe. Tunneksid ennast kindlasti palju paremini :)
Parem ja vasak äärmuslastel ei ole suurt vahet ning mõlemad on normaalset arengut pidurdavad maailmavaated. Mitte, et meil eriti palju poliitikas parem äärmuslikust oleks kuid igast haiget põhimõtetest enesehävitusliku kinni hoidmist on näha kül vahestl.
Ning kas mitte just keskerakonna stiil ei ole teistele siltide kaela määrimine ilma igasuguse loogika ja tõestuseta - ma ei arva, et mina olen see kes siin sellega tegeleb... kuid muidugi ma pole vb nii sügavalt kursis nende poliitikaga ja ei pruugi teada milles nad meistrid on.
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Oled sa muidu vaevunud lugema Reformi ja IRL'i põhikirja või analüüsima nende lubadusi? Ausalt? Ei ytleks, et väga suuri paraleele nii mõneskis osas keskikutega tõmmata ei saaks. Samas jälle, eks lammastele tuleb ka midagi lubada seni kuni elatakse nii ebademokraatlikus korras kus igal idioodil ja lollil on õigus hääletada ilma hääletus litsensita isegi kui tal õrna aimu ei ole kelle poolt ta hääletab või miks. Autoga sõitmiseks ja mitmeks muud asjaks küsitakse vähemalt minimaalsete teadmiste ja põhitõdede tundmist kuid riigi juhtimiseks võib iga loll keda iganes hääletada, täiesti arusaamatu ning ebaõiglane kõigi suhtes. Pealegi mida lollim on inimene seda kergemini ta on manipuleeritav - seega see topelt ohtlik, et igaüks hääletada võib.
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Ahjaa,
lisaks soovitan sul minna ja uurida mis on iroonia, metafoori, sarkasmi ja demagoogia jms vahe. Tunneksid ennast kindlasti palju paremini :)
5 April 2010 23:57
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's link.
See oleks suht wau : ))
Lisaks oleks sellel võimalikud kaudsed suured kasud (ka otseselt majanduslikud lisaks muule) Eestile.
Wellcome to Estonia projecti ja muude ebaõnnestunud sarnaste asjade asemel peaks/võiks riik midagi sellist rahastada hoopis
Lisaks oleks sellel võimalikud kaudsed suured kasud (ka otseselt majanduslikud lisaks muule) Eestile.
Wellcome to Estonia projecti ja muude ebaõnnestunud sarnaste asjade asemel peaks/võiks riik midagi sellist rahastada hoopis
5 April 2010 20:26
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Oota mida sa siis küsisitki ? :)
5 April 2010 18:24
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Täiesti info tyhi postitus sekretar.ee poolt.
5 April 2010 18:21
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Olen lugenud, et kui pidevalt/pikalt ühte punkti vahtida siis see võib mõjuda natukene...
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5 April 2010 17:54
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Vb oled väga ebakindel enda vaadetes kui foobiat või alandust lausa tunned milleskist nii lihtsat :)
5 April 2010 17:48
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Lisan veel, et seda tsari pommi pole olemas - seda ainult üks koopia oli sellises suuruses (to oli umbes 1400 korda tugevam kui nakasaki ja hiroshima kokku). See oli lihtsalt ärplemiseks kokku pandud kommunistidel, et näidata kui suure paugu nad teha saavad. Algselt 100 mega tonnnise võimsusega planeeritud - muudeti see 50 megatonniseks (kuigi isegi see oli piisavalt võimas, et rootsis olid aknad purunenud. Seene pilv oli üle 40ne kilomeetri kõrge :)
Kuid reaalsuses oleks seda pommi võimatu olnud kohale toimetada kuskile edualt kuna to nii kohmakas oli, et see kordades enne alla oleks lastud.
Võrdluseks võiks veel tuua, et see oli siis umbes 50 megatonni võimsune kuid usa samal ajal tegi üle 500 25 mega tonnist pommi mis reaalselt oli mõeldud sõjaks ning ei olnud demod. Muidugi tehti ka tuhandeid teisi "väikseid" pomme mis kõik olid kümnetes kordades võimsamad kui nakasaki ja hiroshima kokku.
Wiki põhjal saab ise kokku lüüa kui palju (avalikke) kasutuses olevaid aatom pomme kellegil on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons
Muidugi Iisreali fanaatikutel on ka 150-200 aatom pommi kuid keegi ei muretse selle pärast...
Kuid nagu ma ytlesin eelmises postis - enam ei panta aatomile rõhku.. :)
Kuid reaalsuses oleks seda pommi võimatu olnud kohale toimetada kuskile edualt kuna to nii kohmakas oli, et see kordades enne alla oleks lastud.
Võrdluseks võiks veel tuua, et see oli siis umbes 50 megatonni võimsune kuid usa samal ajal tegi üle 500 25 mega tonnist pommi mis reaalselt oli mõeldud sõjaks ning ei olnud demod. Muidugi tehti ka tuhandeid teisi "väikseid" pomme mis kõik olid kümnetes kordades võimsamad kui nakasaki ja hiroshima kokku.
Wiki põhjal saab ise kokku lüüa kui palju (avalikke) kasutuses olevaid aatom pomme kellegil on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons
Muidugi Iisreali fanaatikutel on ka 150-200 aatom pommi kuid keegi ei muretse selle pärast...
Kuid nagu ma ytlesin eelmises postis - enam ei panta aatomile rõhku.. :)
5 April 2010 15:41
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Mis pommi puutub siis see onjah, üks tore pommike: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_of_all_bombs - pidi 3-4 korda kõvem olema kui USA "Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb" .
Iseasi kui kaugele see vene oma lennata suudab või lastakse ehk juba startides puruks (lootus alati jääb). Vene suht tihti viimasel ajal USA piiri alaskal testinud jms.
Kuid olulisem on teada ,et kuna see ei ole aatom pomm siis seda võib kasutada ilma, et suuri aatom pommi vastaseid seadusi rikuks - juriidiliselt on kõik korrektne..
Iseasi kui kaugele see vene oma lennata suudab või lastakse ehk juba startides puruks (lootus alati jääb). Vene suht tihti viimasel ajal USA piiri alaskal testinud jms.
Kuid olulisem on teada ,et kuna see ei ole aatom pomm siis seda võib kasutada ilma, et suuri aatom pommi vastaseid seadusi rikuks - juriidiliselt on kõik korrektne..
5 April 2010 15:05
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Kuid jah, seni kuni me Tesla ja muude sarnaste inimeste leitud energja source kasutama ei hakka (kuna 0 point enery jpms on saatanast ja seda ei saa patendi alla panna, et sellest investorid huvitatud oleks) peaksime me kindlasti tuuma energia peal töötama kombineeritult väiksemas osas rohelise energiaga - sest praegune lahendus on ikka ääretult masendav ja Eestit hävitav.
5 April 2010 14:54
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Argo - ega need asjad kõik maailmas nii mustvalgelt ka õnneks või kahjuks ei tööta. Naiivne oleks ju mõelda ja rääkida, et USA ise tegi ühe häälse hääletuse kongressil, et "laseme tornid õhku" - tegu on nii keerulise ja mitme kihilise, nii mitme offical ja mitte offical sala organisatsioonide (ja ma ei räägi siin ainult sala kultustest vaid ka ametimärkidega inimestest), gruppide, huvide ja vaadetega riigiga, et mõttetu on rääkida kui ühtsest USA valitsuse huvist midagi õhku lasta. Ning kõik kes saavad aru kui võimatult keeruline see on saavad aru ka kui lihtne seal midagi suurt korda saata on (või kaasa aidata) nii kuidas vaja just neile.
Me siin ei suuda silma peal hoida oma tillukeses 'suhteliselt' hästi organiseeritud e-riigiski asjadel, et nod ilma suurema korruptsiooni ja jamata jookseks päevast päeva - monsrumi keerukusest nagu USA ei saa me ammugi täit pilti ette (veel vähem globaalsetest võimudest). Isegi sealsed juhid ei saa kui tahaksid, see üle inimvõimete lihtsalt ning ühegil grupil ei ole piisavalt võimu, et üksinda midagi täielikult valitseda ilma teiste abi ja toeta ning loata. Muidugi on olnud ka inimesi kellel on suur mõju olnud kuid nad enamasti kuul peas lõpetanud ning need kuulid kindlasti ei tule ühest ja samast püssist alati.
Pole mõtet muretseda 33'nda kraadi Vabamüürlaste või Bilderbergide pärast (nagu need ainukesed oleks) kui täpselt ei saada siiani aru süsteemi keerukusest. Mitmed konspiraatorid ja lehed on avastatud, et on nede endiga või mõne muu sala organisatsiooniga seotud ning ühesõnaga käib teineteise võidu suur FNORD'i ajamine.
Kas tõesti inimesed siiani arvavad, et selliste rahade, ressursside ja ajudega inimesed (või vahest ka psühhopaadid) ei suuda tavalistest inimestest paar sammu ees olla ning ka internetis liigutada vestlusi täpselt selles suunas kuhu mingil grupil parasjagu vaja on? Ega nad ometigi ju ei finanseeriks mõnda tuntud consiracy lehte (või inimest), et sealsel infol kontrolli peal hoida ning näha mis välja tulnud juba nagunii on ning mida kuidas manipuleerida saaks, et mingil teisel võistleval huvigrupil sitem oleks? Meil endalgi ju vana KGB siin aktiivselt vene vastastes organisatsioonides osalenud/osaleb umbes samadel põhimõtetel.
On tore kui sellistele asjadele viitsitakse mõelda (et miks mis pomm kuskil lõhkes jne), kuid eelkõige on oluline kuidas me enda vaimsusega hakkama saame elades seejuures õnnelike elusi mis iganes me teele ka ei satuks. Suremine on üks kõige normaalseimaid (ja üks põnevamaid) osasi elust siin ja selle ees hirmu tunda on arulage (nagu ka oma egost kinni hoida). Siis saame ka ehk edukamalt rohkem inimesi "karbist välja" mõtlemisele suunata kui ise mõistame, et see on üks suur etendus mida me ise enda jaoks alati muuta saame. Usun, et see ongi meie üks missjoonidest (lisaks "Kas see kurk saab rohkem fänne kui Edgar Savisaar?" lehega liitumisele).
Suurt kasu ei ole külvata hirmu ja lootusetust, et miski suur kuri One World Order nüüd kõike valitseb ja ei ole midagi mida sa teha saaks (välja arvatud selle üle kurtmine või siis mõttetute DVD'ide ja raamatute ostmine mis "lahti seletavad" ja "paljastavad" kuidas asjad töötavad, nagu Alex Jones vms seletab kelle enda TV programmide sateliitide eest maksab nii Fox Network kui ka need samad keda ta "paljastab"). Kasu ka ei ole miskit naiivset lootust uskuda, nagu sa aitad selle "kurja" vastu võitlemisel ning varsti kohe kukub kõik see paha kokku ja siis oleme õnnelikud ja rõõmsad kuni igaviku lõpuni. Enjoy your damn life ...and if u have shitty life then be happy that ur not to much longer here anymore! :)
Lõpetuseks,
Hiljutised Moskva asjad võivad vabalt olla nende poolt korraldatud keda süüdistatakse ning ma ei näe selles midagi nii kura ega terroristliku isiklikult. Suht normaalne asjade kulg ning arusaamatu miks nii harva midagi sellist juhtub (vb FSB tõesti nii tublit tööd teeb). Nad ei pea ise midagi suurt organiseerima ega korraldama selleks, eeltöö on ju kõva tehtud ning suure tõenäosusega juba kõned ka varem valmis trükitud kus vaja aint asukoht ja nimed ära muuta. Ma ise ka nüüd varsti sinna reisin ja kuulan maad lähedamalt mida kohalilkud arvavad:)
srry, hoogu sattusin jälle :P
Me siin ei suuda silma peal hoida oma tillukeses 'suhteliselt' hästi organiseeritud e-riigiski asjadel, et nod ilma suurema korruptsiooni ja jamata jookseks päevast päeva - monsrumi keerukusest nagu USA ei saa me ammugi täit pilti ette (veel vähem globaalsetest võimudest). Isegi sealsed juhid ei saa kui tahaksid, see üle inimvõimete lihtsalt ning ühegil grupil ei ole piisavalt võimu, et üksinda midagi täielikult valitseda ilma teiste abi ja toeta ning loata. Muidugi on olnud ka inimesi kellel on suur mõju olnud kuid nad enamasti kuul peas lõpetanud ning need kuulid kindlasti ei tule ühest ja samast püssist alati.
Pole mõtet muretseda 33'nda kraadi Vabamüürlaste või Bilderbergide pärast (nagu need ainukesed oleks) kui täpselt ei saada siiani aru süsteemi keerukusest. Mitmed konspiraatorid ja lehed on avastatud, et on nede endiga või mõne muu sala organisatsiooniga seotud ning ühesõnaga käib teineteise võidu suur FNORD'i ajamine.
Kas tõesti inimesed siiani arvavad, et selliste rahade, ressursside ja ajudega inimesed (või vahest ka psühhopaadid) ei suuda tavalistest inimestest paar sammu ees olla ning ka internetis liigutada vestlusi täpselt selles suunas kuhu mingil grupil parasjagu vaja on? Ega nad ometigi ju ei finanseeriks mõnda tuntud consiracy lehte (või inimest), et sealsel infol kontrolli peal hoida ning näha mis välja tulnud juba nagunii on ning mida kuidas manipuleerida saaks, et mingil teisel võistleval huvigrupil sitem oleks? Meil endalgi ju vana KGB siin aktiivselt vene vastastes organisatsioonides osalenud/osaleb umbes samadel põhimõtetel.
On tore kui sellistele asjadele viitsitakse mõelda (et miks mis pomm kuskil lõhkes jne), kuid eelkõige on oluline kuidas me enda vaimsusega hakkama saame elades seejuures õnnelike elusi mis iganes me teele ka ei satuks. Suremine on üks kõige normaalseimaid (ja üks põnevamaid) osasi elust siin ja selle ees hirmu tunda on arulage (nagu ka oma egost kinni hoida). Siis saame ka ehk edukamalt rohkem inimesi "karbist välja" mõtlemisele suunata kui ise mõistame, et see on üks suur etendus mida me ise enda jaoks alati muuta saame. Usun, et see ongi meie üks missjoonidest (lisaks "Kas see kurk saab rohkem fänne kui Edgar Savisaar?" lehega liitumisele).
Suurt kasu ei ole külvata hirmu ja lootusetust, et miski suur kuri One World Order nüüd kõike valitseb ja ei ole midagi mida sa teha saaks (välja arvatud selle üle kurtmine või siis mõttetute DVD'ide ja raamatute ostmine mis "lahti seletavad" ja "paljastavad" kuidas asjad töötavad, nagu Alex Jones vms seletab kelle enda TV programmide sateliitide eest maksab nii Fox Network kui ka need samad keda ta "paljastab"). Kasu ka ei ole miskit naiivset lootust uskuda, nagu sa aitad selle "kurja" vastu võitlemisel ning varsti kohe kukub kõik see paha kokku ja siis oleme õnnelikud ja rõõmsad kuni igaviku lõpuni. Enjoy your damn life ...and if u have shitty life then be happy that ur not to much longer here anymore! :)
Lõpetuseks,
Hiljutised Moskva asjad võivad vabalt olla nende poolt korraldatud keda süüdistatakse ning ma ei näe selles midagi nii kura ega terroristliku isiklikult. Suht normaalne asjade kulg ning arusaamatu miks nii harva midagi sellist juhtub (vb FSB tõesti nii tublit tööd teeb). Nad ei pea ise midagi suurt organiseerima ega korraldama selleks, eeltöö on ju kõva tehtud ning suure tõenäosusega juba kõned ka varem valmis trükitud kus vaja aint asukoht ja nimed ära muuta. Ma ise ka nüüd varsti sinna reisin ja kuulan maad lähedamalt mida kohalilkud arvavad:)
srry, hoogu sattusin jälle :P
5 April 2010 14:49
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
"fän" tähendab facebookis, et oled mingil lehel ennast sellisesse staatusesse ajutiselt pannud, et saaksid seal lehel kirjutada/kysimuse esitada.
Vaevalt, et Jaak rohelise T särgi ja K õhupallidega ringi jookseb - see peaks ju iseenesest mõistetav olema kui kõik kruvide ja poltidega korras on :)
Vaevalt, et Jaak rohelise T särgi ja K õhupallidega ringi jookseb - see peaks ju iseenesest mõistetav olema kui kõik kruvide ja poltidega korras on :)
5 April 2010 13:30
Margus Meigo commented on Kas see kurk saab rohkem fänne kui Edgar Savisaar?'s photo.
Nice, VÄHEMALT 66 vene päritolu inimest on ka oma hääle andnud :))
5 April 2010 02:13
Margus Meigo commented on Kas see kurk saab rohkem fänne kui Edgar Savisaar?'s post.
Kes see suurim siis un?
5 April 2010 02:11
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Paekülas :)
5 April 2010 01:54
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's link.
Me like it :))
5 April 2010 01:53
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Minu postituse kustutasid nad ka oma lehelt ära, nagu ka küsimused nede weebi lehe kommentaaridest millele kunagi lolli peaga lootsin vastuseid saada.
Kuid yeah, huvitav on vaadata, et Kurgi lehel on 30 tuhat liiget ja Edgaril on umbes 30 .. populaarne mees :)
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"Kui politsei Edgari kinni peab, siis vahest pääseb politsei ainult hoiatusega" :)
Kuid yeah, huvitav on vaadata, et Kurgi lehel on 30 tuhat liiget ja Edgaril on umbes 30 .. populaarne mees :)
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"Kui politsei Edgari kinni peab, siis vahest pääseb politsei ainult hoiatusega" :)
5 April 2010 01:49
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's post.
Õnnitlused! :))
...kahju, et enam seal kandis ei ela! :(
...kahju, et enam seal kandis ei ela! :(
5 April 2010 01:38
Margus Meigo commented on Sounds of Aliens's post.
Tänud piltide eest Eevi & Petra (Y)
Kuid yea, väga supper oli :)
Kuid yea, väga supper oli :)
3 April 2010 14:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Video gredits: Mihhail Nikiforov, thanks!
3 April 2010 01:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sounds of aliens 6 :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5cI5xZpUks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5cI5xZpUks
3 April 2010 01:12
Margus Meigo commented on Pire Sova's post.
kõlab sexikalt, yhistranspordi lõbud :D
2 April 2010 23:53
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Flight to remember :))
2 April 2010 22:05
Margus Meigo commented on Eva Booyaka's post.
See pidu oli selle aasta parim kus olnud olen :)))
Supper!
Supper!
2 April 2010 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on Janar Janar's post.
VÄGA hea üritus oli! : ))
Tnx tnx tx : ))))
Tnx tnx tx : ))))
2 April 2010 21:04
Margus Meigo commented on Uku Légal's post.
This was GREAT!!! : ))))
Thanks Uku!
Thanks Uku!
2 April 2010 12:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
1st Ship launches tonight 10pm
after that, in a sequence, every hour or hour and a half =)
TIMETABLE:... See More
1st Stage:
22:00-23:00 Goaguru
23:00-00:00 Psyhest
00:00-01:00 Psyfreak
01:00-02:30 Nebula Meltdown LIVE
02:30-03:30 Kelmi LIVE
03:30-05:00 Kolibriscope
05:00-Till end Voodoo
2nd Stage:
22:00-23:30 Shroom Feverish
23:30-01:00 Tarkmeenia
01:00-02:30 Heli Robo
02:30-04:00 Jugar
04:00- Till end Kinnu
See you on a board!!!
We wish you an amazing flight !!!
Event: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=390149326006&ref=ts
Be there EKKM!
after that, in a sequence, every hour or hour and a half =)
TIMETABLE:... See More
1st Stage:
22:00-23:00 Goaguru
23:00-00:00 Psyhest
00:00-01:00 Psyfreak
01:00-02:30 Nebula Meltdown LIVE
02:30-03:30 Kelmi LIVE
03:30-05:00 Kolibriscope
05:00-Till end Voodoo
2nd Stage:
22:00-23:30 Shroom Feverish
23:30-01:00 Tarkmeenia
01:00-02:30 Heli Robo
02:30-04:00 Jugar
04:00- Till end Kinnu
See you on a board!!!
We wish you an amazing flight !!!
Event: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=390149326006&ref=ts
Be there EKKM!
1 April 2010 14:57
Margus Meigo commented on Uku Légal's post.
: ))
Will see ya there, it's gonna be great! :)))
Will see ya there, it's gonna be great! :)))
1 April 2010 14:51
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Paranormal, Spirituality & Metaphysics
Jep, liked this doc when i saw it first long time ago :)
Thanks!1 April 2010 01:16
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies Fans
Jep, liked this doc when i saw it first long time ago :)
Thanks!1 April 2010 01:16
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Humanity & Earth Shift
Jep, liked this doc when i saw it first long time ago :)
Thanks!1 April 2010 01:16
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Jep, liked this doc when i saw it first long time ago :)
Thanks!
Thanks!
1 April 2010 01:16
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I understand you are really busy with your important things like: MafiaWars, PetWille, FriendsForSale, HowSexiIamTest & HowMuchYouKnowMyDeadCat Quiz - but please take time for this:)
This is just a test how many people out of 918 see (first at all) & care
Everyone who cares a little (or even have heard of Wikileaks) PLEASE press "Likes"
My estimate: 5-15 people (optimist as i am)
This is just a test how many people out of 918 see (first at all) & care
Everyone who cares a little (or even have heard of Wikileaks) PLEASE press "Likes"
My estimate: 5-15 people (optimist as i am)
31 March 2010 13:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
U.S. Intelligence planned to destroy WikiLeaks
WikiLeaks release: March 15, 2010
http://file.wikileaks.org/file/us-intel-wikileaks.pdf
WikiLeaks release: March 15, 2010
http://file.wikileaks.org/file/us-intel-wikileaks.pdf
31 March 2010 11:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
* WikiLeaks to reveal Pentagon murder-coverup at US National Press Club, Apr 5, 9am; contact press-club@sunshinepress.org
* WikiLeaks is currently under an aggressive US and Icelandic surveillance operation. Following/photographing/filming/detaining
* If anything happens to us, you know why: it is our Apr 5 film. And you know who is responsible.
* Two under State Dep diplomatic cover followed our editor from Iceland to http://skup.no on Thursday.
* One related person was detained for 22 hours. Computer’s seized.That’s http://www.skup.no
* We know our possession of the decrypted airstrike video is now being discussed at the highest levels of US command.
* We have been shown secret photos of our production meetings and been asked specific questions during detention related to the airstrike.
From Wikileaks: http://twitter.com/wikileaks
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More: http://hubpages.com/hub/WikiLeaks-Journalism ( WikiLeaks Saves Journalism, But Who Will Save WikiLeaks?
)
* WikiLeaks is currently under an aggressive US and Icelandic surveillance operation. Following/photographing/filming/detaining
* If anything happens to us, you know why: it is our Apr 5 film. And you know who is responsible.
* Two under State Dep diplomatic cover followed our editor from Iceland to http://skup.no on Thursday.
* One related person was detained for 22 hours. Computer’s seized.That’s http://www.skup.no
* We know our possession of the decrypted airstrike video is now being discussed at the highest levels of US command.
* We have been shown secret photos of our production meetings and been asked specific questions during detention related to the airstrike.
From Wikileaks: http://twitter.com/wikileaks
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More: http://hubpages.com/hub/WikiLeaks-Journalism ( WikiLeaks Saves Journalism, But Who Will Save WikiLeaks?
)
31 March 2010 11:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
fun, fun, fun :)
29 March 2010 19:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Well, work, fun & travel mostly :)
Going to Amsterdam for Queens day & after that to Russia
Going to Amsterdam for Queens day & after that to Russia
29 March 2010 18:25
Margus Meigo commented on Kas see kurk saab rohkem fänne kui Edgar Savisaar?'s photo.
Nii kiirelt kasvavat eesti gruppi/lehte vist ei olegi olemas :)
29 March 2010 15:58
Margus Meigo commented on Kas see kurk saab rohkem fänne kui Edgar Savisaar?'s photo.
Irw, tallinaga hea irooniline arvuti rike tulnud seal:D
Mul ka vahest top city ylevalt kadunud oma lehtedel muidu
Mul ka vahest top city ylevalt kadunud oma lehtedel muidu
29 March 2010 15:09
Margus Meigo commented on Classic Nkosi's post.
Well, life is fast... fast fast. But luckilly at least it's getting warmer now :)
29 March 2010 12:07
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Kuid nagu siit loeme - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/5852319/EU-farm-subsidies-paid-to-big-business.html siis ega väga palju infot sellele weebilehele ei anta EU poolt. Jube oleks ju kui need vaesed põllumehed tegelikult teada saaks kuhu nede raha mille eest nad piketeerisid tegelikult läheb :)
29 March 2010 11:00
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Põllumajandus maffia on see kes väiketalumeestest üle sõidab mitte "pahad poliitikud" - need on lihtsalt enamasti hypiknukud ja prostituudid keda kasutatakse selleks milleks nad loodud on imho - lisaks annavad nad inimestele hea illusiooni, et neil on niipalju vabadust valida mida ja keda iganes tahavad, et nad kontrollivad muutusi valides (kõigest) neid - ehk illusioon nimega demokraatia (või noh, vb see ongi selle sõna tähendus..) :)
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Need nö põllumajandus toetused on peaaegu pool kogu EU eelarvest ning enamust sellest läheb teps mite väike talunikele (ja see ei hakka ka kunagi minema sinna). Inglise kuninganna ise sai ju juba 700 000 eurot toetust, et ta ikka toime tuleks. Liskaks kindlasti vajavad toetust veel maailma suurimad toitlustus korporatsioonid nagu Nestlé ( ainuüksi http://www.farmsubsidy.org/ st vaadates on umbes 100 millionit euot ). Neil kasum üle 10 miljardi euro iga aasta + lisaks omavad 25% maailma suurimast kosmeetika firmast & palju muud - eks neil ole hädasti vaja jah toimetulekut.
Seal lehel muidu mitmed Eesti firmad ka kirjas - soovitak kõigil seal kaasa lüüa kellel infot on:)
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Need nö põllumajandus toetused on peaaegu pool kogu EU eelarvest ning enamust sellest läheb teps mite väike talunikele (ja see ei hakka ka kunagi minema sinna). Inglise kuninganna ise sai ju juba 700 000 eurot toetust, et ta ikka toime tuleks. Liskaks kindlasti vajavad toetust veel maailma suurimad toitlustus korporatsioonid nagu Nestlé ( ainuüksi http://www.farmsubsidy.org/ st vaadates on umbes 100 millionit euot ). Neil kasum üle 10 miljardi euro iga aasta + lisaks omavad 25% maailma suurimast kosmeetika firmast & palju muud - eks neil ole hädasti vaja jah toimetulekut.
Seal lehel muidu mitmed Eesti firmad ka kirjas - soovitak kõigil seal kaasa lüüa kellel infot on:)
29 March 2010 10:55
Margus Meigo commented on Janar Janar's link.
This "Earth Hour" is just a joke imho. Why not have "earth year" instead this useless earth hour some may ask? I always wonder about projects like that. To swifts off all the energy in one time and turn it back on hour later will actually damage more then it makes good because all the complications its cousing for electric stations to keep voltage in normal levels.But no problem - they will add it to our bill if something gets messed up by this.
Besides that this one hour does nothing good besides make someone look good & make money off projects like that ( so they can get future financing from other green organizations). It's not as retarded as "lets not eat dogs in Korea" we see going around in internet but it is pretty stupid.
We have last 30+ years so MANY working "free energy" devices that is shame to use current electricity & gasoline anyway. People should stand up and start to push on that not play around whit current energy & feed their ego by thinking they make something good if they do not use electricity in one hour per year. Or even one day per year & they have done theyr deed when they drive to work after that with their SUV. If gov would only allow to patent some of these devices that even Tesla was working on ... then we would have completely different kind of world as of now .
I know many people who are connected to this project do it in good intentions but we should look more far away and stop playng around. There is real changes to be made and this one hour does not change anything in good direction.
We should make "THINK one hour per day" (we can start up by just THINK a Day... and give out some essential topics if needed) - this would be something really different for this world & even might make some changes.
I refuse to make this "earth hour" - i try to live every day as well & environment friendly as possible but hour per year :)
Besides that this one hour does nothing good besides make someone look good & make money off projects like that ( so they can get future financing from other green organizations). It's not as retarded as "lets not eat dogs in Korea" we see going around in internet but it is pretty stupid.
We have last 30+ years so MANY working "free energy" devices that is shame to use current electricity & gasoline anyway. People should stand up and start to push on that not play around whit current energy & feed their ego by thinking they make something good if they do not use electricity in one hour per year. Or even one day per year & they have done theyr deed when they drive to work after that with their SUV. If gov would only allow to patent some of these devices that even Tesla was working on ... then we would have completely different kind of world as of now .
I know many people who are connected to this project do it in good intentions but we should look more far away and stop playng around. There is real changes to be made and this one hour does not change anything in good direction.
We should make "THINK one hour per day" (we can start up by just THINK a Day... and give out some essential topics if needed) - this would be something really different for this world & even might make some changes.
I refuse to make this "earth hour" - i try to live every day as well & environment friendly as possible but hour per year :)
28 March 2010 01:41
Margus Meigo commented on Kati Saviir's post.
Jeerum, petwilled ja fishwilled, mafiawarsid, glanni ja muud jurad... :D
Kuidas see aeg ja huvi leitakse nende vastu :D
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Kle me mõtlesime kataga teile kylla tulla mingi aeg, mingi spets aeg oleks eriti hää? :)
Kuidas see aeg ja huvi leitakse nende vastu :D
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Kle me mõtlesime kataga teile kylla tulla mingi aeg, mingi spets aeg oleks eriti hää? :)
28 March 2010 01:17
Margus Meigo commented on Mari Geiger-Howiler's photo.
:))
28 March 2010 00:41
Margus Meigo commented on Glenn Zealous's album.
Old school warDrive ;)
28 March 2010 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on Glenn Zealous's album.
Old school warDrive ;)
28 March 2010 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on Glenn Zealous's post.
I am not proffessional but this seems to be not best envorement for laptop unless its millitary series :D
27 March 2010 22:40
Margus Meigo commented on Kas see kurk saab rohkem fänne kui Edgar Savisaar?'s post.
I will do my best to plant the seed - you newer know, maybe it will take a root one day ;)
27 March 2010 04:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
So really.. can you imagine world 20-30 years from now whit NO gasoline? (it will not end up but it would be to expensive to use). We might stand even 60 years if we advance technology to get it out from deeper & cheaper (what is 3 times longer time frame then many people who know what they talking about predict) but .. .what then?
I mean some still do not get HOW huge this change will be :)
I mean some still do not get HOW huge this change will be :)
27 March 2010 01:52
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's link.
hahahahaha xD
Good one :D
Good one :D
27 March 2010 01:35
Margus Meigo commented on Kas see kurk saab rohkem fänne kui Edgar Savisaar?'s post.
Eva Alasi - kui oleks võimalik, siis ehk võtaksid kuuma kahvli ja torkaksid selle silma koopa alla endale, suruksid sygavamale ja siis hakkaksid seda vaikselt keerama, umbes 6 tiiru yhele poole ja sama palju tagasi - korda seda protseduuri ka teise silmaga. See garanteerib, et meil tulevikus on vähem rämps postitusi ja saasta facebookis. Kui 10 000 sinu sugust sedasi ontlikult käituksid siis sellega säästaksite ka energjat, puid, maad, kütust jne - ühesõnaga oleksite täiesti kasulikud ühiskonna liikmed erinevalt praegusest olukorrast kus te evolutsiooni ja arengut tugevasti pidurdate (alustades) resursi raiskamisega.
Kui võimalik tehke sellest ka hariduslik video ja laadige orkish.tv'se ülesse - see kindlasti aitaks mitmeid inimesi ning säästaks tulevikus kahvleid, sest olgem ausad - nad ei ole ju milleski süüdi.
Kui võimalik tehke sellest ka hariduslik video ja laadige orkish.tv'se ülesse - see kindlasti aitaks mitmeid inimesi ning säästaks tulevikus kahvleid, sest olgem ausad - nad ei ole ju milleski süüdi.
27 March 2010 01:29
Margus Meigo commented on Classic Nkosi's photo.
cool pic man!
27 March 2010 01:25
Margus Meigo commented on Joosep Männimets's post.
Ojaa.... & printse ning rullnokkasi Heraklesteks & Rambodeks :)
(vähemalt nende endi & kärnkonnade arvates....)
(vähemalt nende endi & kärnkonnade arvates....)
26 March 2010 20:53
Margus Meigo commented on Eva Booyaka's post.
Normaalseid mahe tooteid ja nõiatantsu saatel kasvatatud juurvilju on müügil küll - tuleb viitsida otsida aint ja kaubandus keskusest eemale vaadata (+rohkem raha kulutada).
:)
:)
26 March 2010 20:50
Margus Meigo commented on Eva Booyaka's post.
See GMO toodete üle virisemine on nagu uus ming popp teema vist. Meil on sulaselgeid myrke, solki ja rämpsu myydud poodides juba aegade algusest saati - kuid keegi ei tee sellest järjepidevalt paanikat. Enamus vorstid sisaldavad nitrite ja paljud väga suures koguses - kuid keegi ei kurda, et neid ei märgistata ega lisata sinna % peale kui palju seal seda sees on. Maiustustest ma ei hakka rääkimagi.
Muidugi Selveris jagatakse mingi projecti teel tehtud voldikuid kus saame lugeda E'de kohta ja mis tähis mida tähendab - kuid mitte mingisugust infot ei ole MIDA mis E teeb ja kui palju võib/ei või seda korraga syya. Seega täiesti kasutu võlts teavitus kampaanisa ju mille printimise tarbeks lõigati hunnik puid maha
Eesti mass "looduslikud tooted" mida me nii väga poodidesse tahame on kemikalide ja väga vänge väetise peal kasvatatud. Neil ei ole suurt midagi tegemist selle tomati või kurgiga mida sul ema maal kasvatab, kuid kui "eesti toode" kleeps peal on siis enamus kohe arvavad, et jube hea, kasulik ja kvaliteetne. Peaegu ükski eesti mass juurvilju, liha, mune vms tootev firma ei jääk ellu kui selliselt oma tooteid kasvataks kui inimesed ette kujutavad (ehk siis tervislikult ilma kahjulike mürkideta).
Isegi mitmed talumehed kes turule müüvad oma kaupu kasutavad nii vängeid myrke ja odavamaid (kahjulikumaid) väetiseid kui võimalik. Miks nad ei peaks? neid kontrollitakse palju vähem kui suur põlde euroopas ning nad pääsevad mitmete regulatsioonide eest.
- See info on enamuses pärinenud mite ainult inimestelt kelle töö on seda kontrollida vaid ka mitmelt talumehelt ja töösturilt endalt keda tunnen.
niih, sain välja elada ennast :D
Kuid yeah, jaapan on näiteks GMO'd ära keelanud peaaegu täielikult, niipalju kui aru saanud olen. Kuigi ma suht kindel (momendil veel), et nende GMO'de söömine ikka kordades kasulikum kui mitmete teiste mürkide mida suurem osa meist päevast päeva sisse ajab. + muud kahjulikud eluharjumused.
Ühe osas on 100% tõestatud, et on VÄGA kahjulik ja teise osas siiani arutatakse ja ei teata mida jubedat see tuua võib või kuidas või kas.
Kuid ega ta hea ei ole imho siin jumalat mängida (tehes uusi taime ja looma liike) arvestades kui hale natukene me maailmast ja sellest kuidas-mis toimib teame.
Muidugi Selveris jagatakse mingi projecti teel tehtud voldikuid kus saame lugeda E'de kohta ja mis tähis mida tähendab - kuid mitte mingisugust infot ei ole MIDA mis E teeb ja kui palju võib/ei või seda korraga syya. Seega täiesti kasutu võlts teavitus kampaanisa ju mille printimise tarbeks lõigati hunnik puid maha
Eesti mass "looduslikud tooted" mida me nii väga poodidesse tahame on kemikalide ja väga vänge väetise peal kasvatatud. Neil ei ole suurt midagi tegemist selle tomati või kurgiga mida sul ema maal kasvatab, kuid kui "eesti toode" kleeps peal on siis enamus kohe arvavad, et jube hea, kasulik ja kvaliteetne. Peaegu ükski eesti mass juurvilju, liha, mune vms tootev firma ei jääk ellu kui selliselt oma tooteid kasvataks kui inimesed ette kujutavad (ehk siis tervislikult ilma kahjulike mürkideta).
Isegi mitmed talumehed kes turule müüvad oma kaupu kasutavad nii vängeid myrke ja odavamaid (kahjulikumaid) väetiseid kui võimalik. Miks nad ei peaks? neid kontrollitakse palju vähem kui suur põlde euroopas ning nad pääsevad mitmete regulatsioonide eest.
- See info on enamuses pärinenud mite ainult inimestelt kelle töö on seda kontrollida vaid ka mitmelt talumehelt ja töösturilt endalt keda tunnen.
niih, sain välja elada ennast :D
Kuid yeah, jaapan on näiteks GMO'd ära keelanud peaaegu täielikult, niipalju kui aru saanud olen. Kuigi ma suht kindel (momendil veel), et nende GMO'de söömine ikka kordades kasulikum kui mitmete teiste mürkide mida suurem osa meist päevast päeva sisse ajab. + muud kahjulikud eluharjumused.
Ühe osas on 100% tõestatud, et on VÄGA kahjulik ja teise osas siiani arutatakse ja ei teata mida jubedat see tuua võib või kuidas või kas.
Kuid ega ta hea ei ole imho siin jumalat mängida (tehes uusi taime ja looma liike) arvestades kui hale natukene me maailmast ja sellest kuidas-mis toimib teame.
26 March 2010 20:46
Margus Meigo commented on Classic Nkosi's photo.
The legend of Bongz :))
25 March 2010 16:41
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Tere jälle Joel :)
Muidugi päris nii ei ole, et filosoofiad lähevad ja tulevad ning nad on ebaolulised võrreldes Kristlike maailma vaatega (mis on muidu enamasti levinud edukalt teadagi kuidas ja tänu millele...). Kuid need filosoofiad mis midagi väärt on enamasti ka jäävad - võtame kasvõi näiteks Yin ja Yang. On ta kuskile minemas viimase 1000 aasta jooksul?
Üks asi mis on ka jääv on inimese loomus mis tihtipeale just ei ole kõige kenam ning selle "ohjas hoidmiseks ja õigele teele" suunamisega ei ole kindlasti hakkama saanud hilised kristlased või Moslemid kõige paremini - pigem on seda suht koht järjepidevalt teinud suht edukalt endiselt pigem dharmalikud religioonid. Ning kui juba mõista andsid, et see mis on vana ja jääv - seal on suure tõenäosusega ka tõde siis võiks hoopis ju sinna poole vaadata kuna dharmalikude religioonide juured ulatuvad ikka kordades kaugemale kui ühegi tänapäeva fanaatilistest religioonidest. Muide ainuüksi Budiste & Hindusi kokku on pea 2.5 miljardit
Ning tõepoolest - ma ei filosofeerigi sinu vastu, sest ega Sina pole süüdi selle religiooni sünnis (või sellega õnnistatud - oleneb kust poolt toru vaadata). Ning nagu suurem osa religioone on ka Kristlus teind palju head, kuid ma olen lihtsalt selle prinsiibi vastu mis põhimõtetel Kristlased head teevad või ei tee - see tundub väga egositlik minule.
Kuidagi väga enda kasu püüdlik kogu see värk mis omakorda nende kümne käsuga ju vastuolus on - mitte, et see nüüd üks suurimaid vastuolusi oleks kui tegelikud tegeleda Kristluse õppimise ja arusaamisega lisaks piibli lugemisele. (lihtsustatult: ma ei tee halba sest siis saan karistada/seda pole lubatud, ma teen head sest siis saan tasu/taevasse - see väga eba moraalne minu arust kui inimene ei tee halba sest kardab, et keegi teda jälgib ja võib karistada saada. Ning miks mitte lihtsalt heast sydamest head teha, ilma, et MIDAGI vastu ei loodaks sydames?)
Ning kui öelda, et armasta ligiinimest nagu ennast - see ei tooda midagi head nagu näha, sest enamus inimestest tundub, et ei armasta ennast piisavalt (küll aga hoolitsetakse oma ego eest mida tegelt ei olegi olemas kui natukene kaugemale vaadata). Lähiinimese armastamisega on meil teadagi kuidas.
Lõpetuseks võiksin õelda, et kui Kristluse jumal ei luba inimesi kes on elanud paremini kui enamus kristlasi oma väravatest sisse ainuüksi selle pärast, et nad pimesi ei uskunud raamatut mis lugude põhjal kokku kirjutatud mis mitusada aastat suust suhu liikusid siis ma ei soovi sellistest väravatest sisse kõndida. Tegu peab ikka väga ebaõiglase, egositliku ning nö saatanliku jumalaga olema kui ta miljardeid häid inimesi saadab igavestele piinadele kui nad nii ei tee nagu tema käseb või soovib, ütle asualt - kas sa ei arva nii?
Ning ära jumala eest võta seda postitust nagu mingisugust rünnakut Kristluse vastu või soovi Su uskumusi muuta - kindlasti see pole nii.
(muide Tiigrikutsu on lapsest saati ikka üks mu lemmik laule mis sydame rõõmsaks teeb:))
Muidugi päris nii ei ole, et filosoofiad lähevad ja tulevad ning nad on ebaolulised võrreldes Kristlike maailma vaatega (mis on muidu enamasti levinud edukalt teadagi kuidas ja tänu millele...). Kuid need filosoofiad mis midagi väärt on enamasti ka jäävad - võtame kasvõi näiteks Yin ja Yang. On ta kuskile minemas viimase 1000 aasta jooksul?
Üks asi mis on ka jääv on inimese loomus mis tihtipeale just ei ole kõige kenam ning selle "ohjas hoidmiseks ja õigele teele" suunamisega ei ole kindlasti hakkama saanud hilised kristlased või Moslemid kõige paremini - pigem on seda suht koht järjepidevalt teinud suht edukalt endiselt pigem dharmalikud religioonid. Ning kui juba mõista andsid, et see mis on vana ja jääv - seal on suure tõenäosusega ka tõde siis võiks hoopis ju sinna poole vaadata kuna dharmalikude religioonide juured ulatuvad ikka kordades kaugemale kui ühegi tänapäeva fanaatilistest religioonidest. Muide ainuüksi Budiste & Hindusi kokku on pea 2.5 miljardit
Ning tõepoolest - ma ei filosofeerigi sinu vastu, sest ega Sina pole süüdi selle religiooni sünnis (või sellega õnnistatud - oleneb kust poolt toru vaadata). Ning nagu suurem osa religioone on ka Kristlus teind palju head, kuid ma olen lihtsalt selle prinsiibi vastu mis põhimõtetel Kristlased head teevad või ei tee - see tundub väga egositlik minule.
Kuidagi väga enda kasu püüdlik kogu see värk mis omakorda nende kümne käsuga ju vastuolus on - mitte, et see nüüd üks suurimaid vastuolusi oleks kui tegelikud tegeleda Kristluse õppimise ja arusaamisega lisaks piibli lugemisele. (lihtsustatult: ma ei tee halba sest siis saan karistada/seda pole lubatud, ma teen head sest siis saan tasu/taevasse - see väga eba moraalne minu arust kui inimene ei tee halba sest kardab, et keegi teda jälgib ja võib karistada saada. Ning miks mitte lihtsalt heast sydamest head teha, ilma, et MIDAGI vastu ei loodaks sydames?)
Ning kui öelda, et armasta ligiinimest nagu ennast - see ei tooda midagi head nagu näha, sest enamus inimestest tundub, et ei armasta ennast piisavalt (küll aga hoolitsetakse oma ego eest mida tegelt ei olegi olemas kui natukene kaugemale vaadata). Lähiinimese armastamisega on meil teadagi kuidas.
Lõpetuseks võiksin õelda, et kui Kristluse jumal ei luba inimesi kes on elanud paremini kui enamus kristlasi oma väravatest sisse ainuüksi selle pärast, et nad pimesi ei uskunud raamatut mis lugude põhjal kokku kirjutatud mis mitusada aastat suust suhu liikusid siis ma ei soovi sellistest väravatest sisse kõndida. Tegu peab ikka väga ebaõiglase, egositliku ning nö saatanliku jumalaga olema kui ta miljardeid häid inimesi saadab igavestele piinadele kui nad nii ei tee nagu tema käseb või soovib, ütle asualt - kas sa ei arva nii?
Ning ära jumala eest võta seda postitust nagu mingisugust rünnakut Kristluse vastu või soovi Su uskumusi muuta - kindlasti see pole nii.
(muide Tiigrikutsu on lapsest saati ikka üks mu lemmik laule mis sydame rõõmsaks teeb:))
19 March 2010 12:01
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Aamen! :)
19 March 2010 08:16
Margus Meigo commented on Kas see kurk saab rohkem fänne kui Edgar Savisaar?'s post.
Mõtlesin ,et mis need kaks esikohal lehte on millel yle 13 tuh fänni on?
18 March 2010 23:01
Margus Meigo commented on Marelle Nõmm's post.
Nu muidugi aplikatsioon ytleb sulle "saada neile kellele meeldib" :D
Kuid tänks .))
Kuid tänks .))
18 March 2010 22:24
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Üks asi on sõnasi seada, teine asi on ka nende järgi ise käituda või neise uskuda. Vasturääkivus on üks mis mitmete arvates näitab seda kui tugevalt tgelikult inimene ise aru saab oma uskumustest või kui palju neid järgib.
Siin võiks muuuseas kasvõi selle ühe väikse näite tuua vastusest kus sa proovisid mitte midagi vastata:
Su tugev väide ühes postituses:
"paljud ütlevad, et on kristlased, aga enamus neist seda ei ole"
siis järgmine:
"Ei ole keegi volitanud mind tegema mingit statistikat, määratlema õigeid ja valesid kristlasi "
- keegi pole volitanud, kuid tundub, et sa ikkagi määratled neid ju vaatamata sellele? Võisin ka valesti aru saada muidugi.
Ma lihtsalt flosofeerisin siin, et kuna Kristlasi on Eestlaste seas vähem kui ühegi teise rahava seas erinevate andmete põhjal, ning kui neist enamus ei ole ka päris Kristlased.. päris kurb mõelda kui üksikud Eestlastest siis midagi väärt on kui selliselt olukorda vaadata. (mulle ei jäänud kuskilt piiblist meelde, et need midagi väärt on kes põrgu lähevad).
Kui su uskumustes on lubatud mõelda, siis ehk mõtlesid ka ise välja mu vastusest midagi - ning õnnistatud ma olen, ole isegi :)
Siin võiks muuuseas kasvõi selle ühe väikse näite tuua vastusest kus sa proovisid mitte midagi vastata:
Su tugev väide ühes postituses:
"paljud ütlevad, et on kristlased, aga enamus neist seda ei ole"
siis järgmine:
"Ei ole keegi volitanud mind tegema mingit statistikat, määratlema õigeid ja valesid kristlasi "
- keegi pole volitanud, kuid tundub, et sa ikkagi määratled neid ju vaatamata sellele? Võisin ka valesti aru saada muidugi.
Ma lihtsalt flosofeerisin siin, et kuna Kristlasi on Eestlaste seas vähem kui ühegi teise rahava seas erinevate andmete põhjal, ning kui neist enamus ei ole ka päris Kristlased.. päris kurb mõelda kui üksikud Eestlastest siis midagi väärt on kui selliselt olukorda vaadata. (mulle ei jäänud kuskilt piiblist meelde, et need midagi väärt on kes põrgu lähevad).
Kui su uskumustes on lubatud mõelda, siis ehk mõtlesid ka ise välja mu vastusest midagi - ning õnnistatud ma olen, ole isegi :)
18 March 2010 22:20
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Eks tõde ole ka see, et alati vastata küsimustele millele vastamine nõuab julgust või oma uskumuste üle tõsisemat mõtlemist (mis teatud uskude puhul on keelatud) stiilis "Üks loll jõuab rohkem küsida kui 10 tarka vastata"... Muidugi selline vastamine tihti juba eeldab, et to ennast alustuseks targaks peab - muidu ei saa ju nii vastata.
Kuid nagu üks guru ütles teatud asju puudutavate küsimuste kohta "See kes teab - ei tea". (sellele lihtsale lausele järgneb mitme saja leheküljeline seletus neile kes ei tea mida teadja väidab end teadvat - kuid usun, et seda pole vaja lahkama hakata)
Lisaks kui õppida ja kuulda ainult sellistelt inimestelt kes on õppinud ja kuulnud ainult teatud maailma vaatega inimesi siis tihti enam ei oma nii suurt tähtsust ka see mida inimene näeb, sest ta näed seda mida ta usud ning ta usud seda mida enamasti õpetatakse (ehk lõputu ring, mida võiks pikalt veel edasi ketrata). Kuid lõppude lõppuks ma usun, et sedasi ei tule välja mitte individuaalsete, vabade meelte, vaadete ja uskumustega inimene kes ise nö valgustuseni on jõudnud. Pigem on ta sinna jõudnud umbes samal moodusel kui mass tööstuse liini produkt ning tihti ka ei oma rohkem isukupära või originaalsust.
Eks piibelgi ju räägib, et sa ei pea kõiki valesi läbi lugema ja tundma õppima (või arutama), et aru saada neist valedest - piisab kui õigeid ja kindlaid asju õpid ja järgid mis on teada, et on tõde (ehk siis piibel ja sellega seotud ainult, ignoreeerida tuleb tugevalt kõike muud). Selline suhtumine aga viib teadagi kuhu. Lisa paraleeliks võiks tuua - Kui sulle antakse valida millioni asja vahel mis on tegelt kõik suht-koht koopiad siis pole vahet mida sa valid - sest tegelikult oli sul valikuid ainult üks.
Kuid nagu üks guru ütles teatud asju puudutavate küsimuste kohta "See kes teab - ei tea". (sellele lihtsale lausele järgneb mitme saja leheküljeline seletus neile kes ei tea mida teadja väidab end teadvat - kuid usun, et seda pole vaja lahkama hakata)
Lisaks kui õppida ja kuulda ainult sellistelt inimestelt kes on õppinud ja kuulnud ainult teatud maailma vaatega inimesi siis tihti enam ei oma nii suurt tähtsust ka see mida inimene näeb, sest ta näed seda mida ta usud ning ta usud seda mida enamasti õpetatakse (ehk lõputu ring, mida võiks pikalt veel edasi ketrata). Kuid lõppude lõppuks ma usun, et sedasi ei tule välja mitte individuaalsete, vabade meelte, vaadete ja uskumustega inimene kes ise nö valgustuseni on jõudnud. Pigem on ta sinna jõudnud umbes samal moodusel kui mass tööstuse liini produkt ning tihti ka ei oma rohkem isukupära või originaalsust.
Eks piibelgi ju räägib, et sa ei pea kõiki valesi läbi lugema ja tundma õppima (või arutama), et aru saada neist valedest - piisab kui õigeid ja kindlaid asju õpid ja järgid mis on teada, et on tõde (ehk siis piibel ja sellega seotud ainult, ignoreeerida tuleb tugevalt kõike muud). Selline suhtumine aga viib teadagi kuhu. Lisa paraleeliks võiks tuua - Kui sulle antakse valida millioni asja vahel mis on tegelt kõik suht-koht koopiad siis pole vahet mida sa valid - sest tegelikult oli sul valikuid ainult üks.
18 March 2010 22:18
Margus Meigo commented on Marelle Nõmm's post.
mul lausa eemaldatud see asi oli, arvasin, et selleks peaks piisama. Ja ta ikka saadab neid kutseid nendele KELLE Sa valid :) Ma umbes 100+ appi ära bänninud kuid krt alati leidub mingi uus :D
18 March 2010 20:07
Margus Meigo commented on Jaak Vackermann's link.
Joel Friedrich Steinfeldt:
Ning kas sa oled nii valgustamata, et pimesi räägid kes/mis on Looja ja mida ta oma kõrvale sallib või ei? (see küsimus, mitte süüdistus)
Ning millised need "õiged kristlased" on? Mis nad õigemaks teeb ja mis kõikide teistega juhtub kes õige pole, lähevad hukatusele?
Selline umbaudne küsimus, et kui suur % kristlastest (sinu arvutuste järgi) on kindlalt need õiged kes pääsevad sinna kuhu pürgitakse? Kindlasti mingi umbkaudne %peaks olema silmeees teil.
Ning kas sa oled nii valgustamata, et pimesi räägid kes/mis on Looja ja mida ta oma kõrvale sallib või ei? (see küsimus, mitte süüdistus)
Ning millised need "õiged kristlased" on? Mis nad õigemaks teeb ja mis kõikide teistega juhtub kes õige pole, lähevad hukatusele?
Selline umbaudne küsimus, et kui suur % kristlastest (sinu arvutuste järgi) on kindlalt need õiged kes pääsevad sinna kuhu pürgitakse? Kindlasti mingi umbkaudne %peaks olema silmeees teil.
18 March 2010 19:59
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's link.
I liked it. This was well made.
Thanks for the author!
Thanks for the author!
17 March 2010 01:45
Margus Meigo commented on Tõnis Hiiesalu's post.
Mis telefon see selline un? :P
15 March 2010 19:44
Margus Meigo commented on Glenn Zealous's post.
Well you should stop going in places that produce same thing over and over again - for me facebook is interesting because here is SO much different information that even whit 10 hours per day i do not have time to fairly take a look at many interesting topic, videos, science & ideas.
So i think it's a user fault if one do not know how to use facebook or how to make it useful for yourself :)
So i think it's a user fault if one do not know how to use facebook or how to make it useful for yourself :)
15 March 2010 17:12
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Drop acid, not bombs.
Seems like interesting trailer for..15 March 2010 17:01
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: ~Free Your Mind~
Seems like interesting trailer for..15 March 2010 17:01
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Decriminalize All Psychedelics. Now!
Seems like interesting trailer for..15 March 2010 17:01
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies Fans
Seems like interesting trailer for..15 March 2010 17:01
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Paranormal, Spirituality & Metaphysics
Seems like interesting trailer for..15 March 2010 17:01
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Humanity & Earth Shift
Seems like interesting trailer for..15 March 2010 17:01
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Seems like interesting trailer for..
15 March 2010 17:01
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's note.
Great reading :))
15 March 2010 03:31
Margus Meigo commented on Ciaran Hollander's post.
Group: Genetic psychopaths are destroying our world AKA Political Ponerology
Well he will only die - you just cant remove people like that from power :)15 March 2010 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on Joosep Männimets's post.
xD
14 March 2010 16:40
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's link.
Yess finally it's ready!!! : )))
12 March 2010 16:02
Margus Meigo commented on Joosep Männimets's post.
Vedas veel et valgeks. Mõnes kohas kus ruumid tumedad olid oli see keelatud kuna "igaüks võib ju siis sinise sinna ise juurde mõelda" :D
12 March 2010 16:00
Margus Meigo commented on Sounds of Aliens's photo.
Fricedellic Alien :))
11 March 2010 15:43
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's post.
mmmm sounds goooood :))
9 March 2010 23:02
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's post.
Cool! :))
Jaga uudiseid! :)
Jaga uudiseid! :)
9 March 2010 22:28
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
Awww :))
9 March 2010 22:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Palun, tänud teile ka, et meeldis :)))
( Tänane öö läks jep selle peale kuna pole photoshopis kõige kobedam käsi :P )
( Tänane öö läks jep selle peale kuna pole photoshopis kõige kobedam käsi :P )
8 March 2010 16:51
Margus Meigo commented on Moira Paulse's post.
Hello Moira! :))
I am happy you like it!
As for this year i can not come back yet but one is sore - i will work on it to be back there some day. Place is so wonderful but jet i was unable to see most of the places that make SA so great. But i did see one of the most important thing that makes SA special - the people! & because for this i always have warm place for SA in my heart, forever:)
There is many places in Africa i want to visit more - but for sore i would like to be back in SA, anytime it's possible:)
Lov'ya guy's & greetings to you all!
I am happy you like it!
As for this year i can not come back yet but one is sore - i will work on it to be back there some day. Place is so wonderful but jet i was unable to see most of the places that make SA so great. But i did see one of the most important thing that makes SA special - the people! & because for this i always have warm place for SA in my heart, forever:)
There is many places in Africa i want to visit more - but for sore i would like to be back in SA, anytime it's possible:)
Lov'ya guy's & greetings to you all!
8 March 2010 11:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
& 3 special ones i like :)
The most common way people give up their power
is by thinking they don't have any.
- Alice Walker
If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun
- Katharine Hepburn
Well-behaved women rarely make history.
-Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
Once more - Huggs! :))
The most common way people give up their power
is by thinking they don't have any.
- Alice Walker
If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun
- Katharine Hepburn
Well-behaved women rarely make history.
-Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
Once more - Huggs! :))
8 March 2010 05:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
& some random quotes i picked up or have seen in the Internetz:
Whether you think you can or think you can't - you are right.
- Henry Ford
When we speak we are afraid our words will not be heard or welcomed.
But when we are silent, we are still afraid.
So it is better to speak.
- Audre Lorde
Woman must not accept; she must challenge.
She must not be awed by that which has been built up around her;
she must reverence that woman in her which struggles for expression.
- Margaret Sanger
If you look at what you have in life, you'll always have more.
If you look at what you don't have in life, you'll never have enough.
- Oprah Winfrey
You see a lot of smart guys with dumb women, but you hardly ever see a smart woman with a dumb guy
- Erica Jong
It is the woman who chooses the man who will choose her
"Never run after a bus or a man. There will always be another one." - Old Irish Expression
It's better to be unhappy alone than unhappy with someone
& more: http://hubpages.com/hub/Quotes_on_Women
Whether you think you can or think you can't - you are right.
- Henry Ford
When we speak we are afraid our words will not be heard or welcomed.
But when we are silent, we are still afraid.
So it is better to speak.
- Audre Lorde
Woman must not accept; she must challenge.
She must not be awed by that which has been built up around her;
she must reverence that woman in her which struggles for expression.
- Margaret Sanger
If you look at what you have in life, you'll always have more.
If you look at what you don't have in life, you'll never have enough.
- Oprah Winfrey
You see a lot of smart guys with dumb women, but you hardly ever see a smart woman with a dumb guy
- Erica Jong
It is the woman who chooses the man who will choose her
"Never run after a bus or a man. There will always be another one." - Old Irish Expression
It's better to be unhappy alone than unhappy with someone
& more: http://hubpages.com/hub/Quotes_on_Women
8 March 2010 05:39
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's link.
I love specially the end :P
4 March 2010 14:33
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: ~Free Your Mind~
makes some people scared to think how much fewer criminals we would have if we would threat all the criminals spiritually instead training them to be more thought criminals .
As USA prisons are often private business or corporations then this is last thing the want to see. 4 March 2010 14:24
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Karma Experiment - Pay it Forward
makes some people scared to think how much fewer criminals we would have if we would threat all the criminals spiritually instead training them to be more thought criminals .
As USA prisons are often private business or corporations then this is last thing the want to see. 4 March 2010 14:24
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: THE ZEITGEIST MOVEMENT
makes some people scared to think how much fewer criminals we would have if we would threat all the criminals spiritually instead training them to be more thought criminals .
As USA prisons are often private business or corporations then this is last thing the want to see. 4 March 2010 14:24
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
makes some people scared to think how much fewer criminals we would have if we would threat all the criminals spiritually instead training them to be more thought criminals .
As USA prisons are often private business or corporations then this is last thing the want to see.
As USA prisons are often private business or corporations then this is last thing the want to see.
4 March 2010 14:24
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies Fans
Good stuff :))
Thanks!3 March 2010 10:01
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: What the BLEEP do we know?
Good stuff :))
Thanks!3 March 2010 10:01
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Drop acid, not bombs.
Good stuff :))
Thanks!3 March 2010 10:01
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Paranormal, Spirituality & Metaphysics
Good stuff :))
Thanks!3 March 2010 10:01
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Decriminalize All Psychedelics. Now!
Good stuff :))
Thanks!3 March 2010 10:01
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Humanity & Earth Shift
Good stuff :))
Thanks!3 March 2010 10:01
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Good stuff :))
Thanks!
Thanks!
3 March 2010 10:01
Margus Meigo commented on Robotaanika Park's link.
reallly naaaish :)
2 March 2010 02:51
Margus Meigo commented on Gustavo Arias's photo.
Hello Gustavo :))
facebook truly does connect :)
facebook truly does connect :)
26 February 2010 18:30
Margus Meigo commented on Joosep Männimets's post.
Un jup. Kuid masu on palju häid õnnistusi toonud :))
(ahjaa, seal lehel soovitan võtta kogu kuu millal soovid reisida ja siis ta näitab graafikut millisel päeval keskeltläbi kõige odavam lend on yhendatud või mitte yhendatud lendudega (linnuke vaja juurde panna). Alguspunkid siis riia/tallinn/soome tasub vaadata, siis suht häid asju hangib välja - juhul kui sul alergjat odavlendude vastu pole muidugi :))
Alati imestanud inimesi kes ostavad 5 euroga lennu pileti ja siis virisevad, et sööki ei saanud või lennuk oli jama. imho tra hea, et istegi on :D
(ahjaa, seal lehel soovitan võtta kogu kuu millal soovid reisida ja siis ta näitab graafikut millisel päeval keskeltläbi kõige odavam lend on yhendatud või mitte yhendatud lendudega (linnuke vaja juurde panna). Alguspunkid siis riia/tallinn/soome tasub vaadata, siis suht häid asju hangib välja - juhul kui sul alergjat odavlendude vastu pole muidugi :))
Alati imestanud inimesi kes ostavad 5 euroga lennu pileti ja siis virisevad, et sööki ei saanud või lennuk oli jama. imho tra hea, et istegi on :D
26 February 2010 15:35
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's post.
i totally agree!
26 February 2010 13:42
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's post.
pokapoka:p
26 February 2010 13:32
Margus Meigo commented on Joosep Männimets's post.
ma just amsterdami piletid võtsin sealt kevadeks, odavamalt kui lennufirma lehelt otse :)
26 February 2010 13:31
Margus Meigo commented on Joosep Männimets's post.
lennu firmad harva suudavad neid soodustusi leida (eestis vähemalt) mida skyscanner pakub, tsek that out :P
26 February 2010 13:29
Margus Meigo commented on University of Tartu's photo.
I must be there : ))
25 February 2010 18:13
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's link.
Hey, postita see Eesti lehele ka palun : ))
25 February 2010 16:37
Margus Meigo commented on Joosep Männimets's post.
kuhu täpsemalt lendama hakkad ja mis ajal ?
25 February 2010 14:54
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: ~Free Your Mind~
Keep it up Romik :))
Bill has always been one of my long time favorites on comedy/truth scene along with George Carlin (whose ALL dvd's i have & audio books). Upload some George clips also - many of them are priceless :)24 February 2010 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Karma Experiment - Pay it Forward
Keep it up Romik :))
Bill has always been one of my long time favorites on comedy/truth scene along with George Carlin (whose ALL dvd's i have & audio books). Upload some George clips also - many of them are priceless :)24 February 2010 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: THE ZEITGEIST MOVEMENT
Keep it up Romik :))
Bill has always been one of my long time favorites on comedy/truth scene along with George Carlin (whose ALL dvd's i have & audio books). Upload some George clips also - many of them are priceless :)24 February 2010 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Keep it up Romik :))
Bill has always been one of my long time favorites on comedy/truth scene along with George Carlin (whose ALL dvd's i have & audio books). Upload some George clips also - many of them are priceless :)
Bill has always been one of my long time favorites on comedy/truth scene along with George Carlin (whose ALL dvd's i have & audio books). Upload some George clips also - many of them are priceless :)
24 February 2010 16:45
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
I wonder how many of the troops was looking war same way as before after this.. No wonder it's one of the MOST not allowed drug to if u want to enter to work some government or military position
21 February 2010 20:42
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mõtlesin psyle minna
/chat
/chat
19 February 2010 22:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
:D:D
Vaatame kas siis ka seda arvad kui sul 700 tuttavat siin on ja neist 100 kõikvõimalikke idiootseid aplikatsioone ja jama sulle saatma hakkavad päevast päeva:D
(ps aplikatsioonid saab plokkida, inimesed kes räpsu saadavad ignoorida, ning privaatsus setinguid timmida kes mida kuidas näed ja mida teha saab su profiiilil)
Vaatame kas siis ka seda arvad kui sul 700 tuttavat siin on ja neist 100 kõikvõimalikke idiootseid aplikatsioone ja jama sulle saatma hakkavad päevast päeva:D
(ps aplikatsioonid saab plokkida, inimesed kes räpsu saadavad ignoorida, ning privaatsus setinguid timmida kes mida kuidas näed ja mida teha saab su profiiilil)
19 February 2010 22:44
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
lol, Estonia is innocent as Virgin Mary, it's a fact - we all know that. Specially buds like Savisaar & others wonderful people around him xD
But back to realty now: Muaauahh to you also my cutest :))
Well, can you let me know ahead time (about 1 - 1.5 months time) when ur (more) free and plan to visit ur family- i would love to join you. & maybe even have some drinks later with other agents, over here they are to picky and just working most of the time :P
As of before june i cant for sore as i have 1-2 trips planned before that (just fixed my final hosting in upcoming Amsterdam trip ) + birthday in may so i will be occupied up to then for sore.
Some other new friends in St. Peterburg call me over also so i think i should take at least 2 weeks in Russia. But do not worry.. when i come u will know, as you i want to meet most :)) If i am able to visit then I plan to do it in summer as i do not want to end up like ppl who took Barbarossa tourism package back then xD
But back to realty now: Muaauahh to you also my cutest :))
Well, can you let me know ahead time (about 1 - 1.5 months time) when ur (more) free and plan to visit ur family- i would love to join you. & maybe even have some drinks later with other agents, over here they are to picky and just working most of the time :P
As of before june i cant for sore as i have 1-2 trips planned before that (just fixed my final hosting in upcoming Amsterdam trip ) + birthday in may so i will be occupied up to then for sore.
Some other new friends in St. Peterburg call me over also so i think i should take at least 2 weeks in Russia. But do not worry.. when i come u will know, as you i want to meet most :)) If i am able to visit then I plan to do it in summer as i do not want to end up like ppl who took Barbarossa tourism package back then xD
19 February 2010 01:43
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
So lesson to intelligent services - just give person some (other) things to do what he/she is interested of and he/she will not bother you anymore :D
but anyways, how ya doing ? Anything new in Russia? (i have been keeping away my self from news in last moths)
I will be in Amsterdam in April for vacation (from my "hard work" u know:P), can u take time off also around this time or still contributing all your beauty and free time to hard work and learning?
Only work & no play makes all the work useless u know... we should not work all the time so we can play a little bit - this is just waste of our beautiful life :))
My work is play so i basically really work :)
but anyways, how ya doing ? Anything new in Russia? (i have been keeping away my self from news in last moths)
I will be in Amsterdam in April for vacation (from my "hard work" u know:P), can u take time off also around this time or still contributing all your beauty and free time to hard work and learning?
Only work & no play makes all the work useless u know... we should not work all the time so we can play a little bit - this is just waste of our beautiful life :))
My work is play so i basically really work :)
17 February 2010 20:37
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
hahaha :D
Like they say if u cant beat them them join them!;)
Well, but to be honest i just have had other projects on my hand. Some business with Arabic's & same time researching psychedelic & consciousness in a larger scale takes off all the time and makes many of the old tasks kind of unnecessary and less important at the moment.. :)
Like they say if u cant beat them them join them!;)
Well, but to be honest i just have had other projects on my hand. Some business with Arabic's & same time researching psychedelic & consciousness in a larger scale takes off all the time and makes many of the old tasks kind of unnecessary and less important at the moment.. :)
17 February 2010 20:29
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Thänk you Tessa :))
Tänud Martin, Sulle hyva veebruari:p
Tänud Martin, Sulle hyva veebruari:p
15 February 2010 13:25
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
... + 6 more deleted.
15 February 2010 02:25
Margus Meigo commented on elavtoit.com's link.
Mis iganes teed - ära seda lehte maha jäta kunagi isegi kui see sisse ei peaks tooma. Usun, et nüüd suvel/sügisel saab see päris hea hoo sisse, keep marketinging :)
14 February 2010 15:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
or...It will get deleted as you're connection from my list :)
14 February 2010 14:59
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: What the BLEEP do we know?
It's strange.. i try to re-post it on wall's but all i get is "Oops.. something went wrong we try to fix it" - well, facebook find's good times to be dysfunctional 5 February 2010 16:30
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
It's strange.. i try to re-post it on wall's but all i get is "Oops.. something went wrong we try to fix it" - well, facebook find's good times to be dysfunctional
5 February 2010 16:30
Margus Meigo commented on Drew Christenson's post.
Group: Erowid
Well i am not chemist but i do understand why user might have been confused... as not chemist major i am also am confused a bit.
As i see 4-methoxymethcathinone is Methophedrinum (530-54-1), 4'-Methoxy-2-methylaminopropiophenone - form: C11H15NO2
according to one chemical site
But Mephedrone is 4-methylmethcathinone (4-MMC), 4-methylephedrone, meow meow or MMCAT - form: C11H15NO
according to other sources.
Others say methedrone, mephdrone, methedrone, bk-PMMA, methophedrinum etc are all same
But there is plenty of info in Erowid if you use dif. combination for googeling/search:
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_4Methylmethcathinone.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/4_methylmethcathinone/4_methylmethcathinone.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Methcathinone.shtml
Just if you are not good at chemistry it might be a bit hard sometimes to understand what is what as some chemicals have many synonyms
But still, i think you are talking about same chemical as was mentioned on the wiki link before
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/show_image.php?i=4_methylmethcathinone/4_methylmethcathinone_powder__i2009e0924_disp.jpg4 February 2010 02:26
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
This pilot Phase 2 study will examine the safety and efficacy of MDMA-assisted psychotherapy in sixteen veterans with war-related PTSD, and will seek to enroll roughly equal numbers of men and women. Since many veterans with PTSD have not been offered and/or have declined medication or psychotherapy for their PTSD, this study will include veterans with chronic PTSD of at least six months duration. To ensure maximal scientific objectivity, this protocol is randomized, triple-blind and placebo-controlled. According to European Medicines Agency (EMEA) Guidelines for the development of medicines for PTSD, it is important to conduct clinical trials in homogenous populations. The findings of this study in veterans with war-related trauma will be compared to the findings from our first MDMA/PTSD pilot study, which consisted primarily of women survivors of sexual abuse and assault. Previous studies suggest that war-related PTSD may be more prevalent and harder to cure than PTSD caused by other types of trauma, and out study may help to compare the effect of trauma etiology on treatment efficacy. (see references)
Letter: http://www.maps.org/mdma/mp8_docs/mp8_63384_may_proceed_ltr_12_1_10.pdf
Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies
Attention: Rick Doblin, Ph.D.... See More
3 Francis Street
Belmont, MA 02478-2238
Dear Dr. Doblin:
Please refer to your Investigational New Drug Application (IND) submitted under section 505(i) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act for 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA).
We have completed our 30-day, safety review of your application and have concluded that you may proceed with your proposed clinical investigation, “A Randomized, Triple-Blind, Phase 2 Pilot Study Comparing 3 Different Doses of MDMA in Conjunction with Manualized Psythotherapy in 16 Veterans with Chronic Posttraumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)”. As sponsor of this IND, you are responsible for compliance with applicable portions of the Public Health Service Act, the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, and the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR). These responsibilities include (1) reporting any unexpected fatal or lifethreatening adverse experience associated with use of the drug by telephone or fax no later than 7 calendar days after initial receipt of the information [21 CFR 312.32(c)(2)]; (2) reporting any adverse experience associated with use of the drug that is both serious and unexpected in writing no later than 15 calendar days after initial receipt of the information [21 CFR 312.32(c)(1)]; and (3) submitting annual progress reports (21 CFR 312.33).
More: http://www.maps.org/mdma/
Comments: http://www.facebook.com/Erowid.Org / Wall4 February 2010 01:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: MAPS psychotherapy research
PS; greetings from http://www.facebook.org/Erowid.Org page ! :)
Please, if you can - do not forget to donate: http://store.maps.org/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=Maps&Category_Code=Donation
http://www.maps.org/avarchive/maps_mp1-mithoefer_on_cnn-nov2008.mov... See More
MDMA/PTSD in U.S. War Veterans Protocol submitted to the FDA on December 23, 2009.... See More
Part 1 http://www.maps.org/mdma/mp8_docs/mp8_protocol_12-17-09_final.pdf,
Part 2 http://www.maps.org/mdma/mp8_docs/mp8_protocol_12-17-09_final.2.pdf, ... See More
Part 3 http://www.maps.org/mdma/mp8_docs/mp8_protocol_12-17-09_final.3.pdf
Other documents related to study look @ "MDMA/PTSD U.S. Study (Veterans of War)" from http://www.maps.org/mdma/4 February 2010 00:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: MAPS psychotherapy research
MedicinesAgency (EMEA) Guidelines for the development of medicines for PTSD, itis important to conduct clinical trials in homogenous populations. Thefindings of this study in veterans with war-related trauma will becompared to the findings from our first MDMA/PTSD pilot study, whichconsisted primarily of women survivors of sexual abuse and assault.Previous studies suggest that war-related PTSD may be more prevalentand harder to cure than PTSD caused by other types of trauma, and outstudy may help to compare the effect of trauma etiology on treatmentefficacy. (see references) Letter: http://www.maps.org/mdma/mp8_docs/mp8_63384_may_proceed_ltr_12_1_10.pdfMultidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic StudiesAttention: Rick Doblin, Ph.D.... See More3 Francis StreetBelmont, MA 02478-2238Dear Dr. Doblin:Pleaserefer to your Investigational New Drug Application (IND) submittedunder section 505(i) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act for3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA).Wehave completed our 30-day, safety review of your application and haveconcluded that you may proceed with your proposed clinicalinvestigation, “A Randomized, Triple-Blind, Phase 2 Pilot StudyComparing 3 Different Doses of MDMA in Conjunction with ManualizedPsythotherapy in 16 Veterans with Chronic Posttraumatic Stress Disorder(PTSD)”. As sponsor of this IND, you are responsible for compliancewith applicable portions of the Public Health Service Act, the FederalFood, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, and the Code of Federal Regulations(CFR). These responsibilities include (1) reporting any unexpectedfatal or lifethreatening adverse experience associated with use of thedrug by telephone or fax no later than 7 calendar days after initialreceipt of the information [21 CFR 312.32(c)(2)]; (2) reporting anyadverse experience associated with use of the drug that is both seriousand unexpected in writing no later than 15 calendar days after initialreceipt of the information [21 CFR 312.32(c)(1)]; and (3) submittingannual progress reports (21 CFR 312.33).
More: http://www.maps.org/mdma/4 February 2010 00:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies Fans
PS; greetings from http://www.facebook.org/Erowid.Org page ! :)
Please, if you can - do not forget to donate: http://store.maps.org/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=Maps&Category_Code=Donation
http://www.maps.org/avarchive/maps_mp1-mithoefer_on_cnn-nov2008.mov... See More
MDMA/PTSD in U.S. War Veterans Protocol submitted to the FDA on December 23, 2009.... See More
Part 1 http://www.maps.org/mdma/mp8_docs/mp8_protocol_12-17-09_final.pdf,
Part 2 http://www.maps.org/mdma/mp8_docs/mp8_protocol_12-17-09_final.2.pdf, ... See More
Part 3 http://www.maps.org/mdma/mp8_docs/mp8_protocol_12-17-09_final.3.pdf
Other documents related to study look @ "MDMA/PTSD U.S. Study (Veterans of War)" from http://www.maps.org/mdma/4 February 2010 00:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
PS; greetings from http://www.facebook.org/Erowid.Org page ! :)
Please, if you can - do not forget to donate: http://store.maps.org/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=Maps&Category_Code=Donation
http://www.maps.org/avarchive/maps_mp1-mithoefer_on_cnn-nov2008.mov... See More
MDMA/PTSD in U.S. War Veterans Protocol submitted to the FDA on December 23, 2009.... See More
Part 1 http://www.maps.org/mdma/mp8_docs/mp8_protocol_12-17-09_final.pdf,
Part 2 http://www.maps.org/mdma/mp8_docs/mp8_protocol_12-17-09_final.2.pdf, ... See More
Part 3 http://www.maps.org/mdma/mp8_docs/mp8_protocol_12-17-09_final.3.pdf
Other documents related to study look @ "MDMA/PTSD U.S. Study (Veterans of War)" from http://www.maps.org/mdma/
Please, if you can - do not forget to donate: http://store.maps.org/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=Maps&Category_Code=Donation
http://www.maps.org/avarchive/maps_mp1-mithoefer_on_cnn-nov2008.mov... See More
MDMA/PTSD in U.S. War Veterans Protocol submitted to the FDA on December 23, 2009.... See More
Part 1 http://www.maps.org/mdma/mp8_docs/mp8_protocol_12-17-09_final.pdf,
Part 2 http://www.maps.org/mdma/mp8_docs/mp8_protocol_12-17-09_final.2.pdf, ... See More
Part 3 http://www.maps.org/mdma/mp8_docs/mp8_protocol_12-17-09_final.3.pdf
Other documents related to study look @ "MDMA/PTSD U.S. Study (Veterans of War)" from http://www.maps.org/mdma/
4 February 2010 00:00
Margus Meigo commented on Andy FJ C's photo.
Awww.... :)
Äääitääh :))
Äääitääh :))
3 February 2010 23:35
Margus Meigo commented on Jason Oliver's post.
:))
You are more then welcomed !
You are more then welcomed !
3 February 2010 23:34
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: POSITIVE PEOPLE
Well.. God in a Pill..
Thing is, once tripping religious people understand what God is then there is no need for organized religion and church as it is right now (so it would be kind of like Jesus wanted originally...).. so I'm sore the Vatican & others will not give their approval for this lol3 February 2010 14:03
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: What the BLEEP do we know?
Well.. God in a Pill..
Thing is, once tripping religious people understand what God is then there is no need for organized religion and church as it is right now (so it would be kind of like Jesus wanted originally...).. so I'm sore the Vatican & others will not give their approval for this lol3 February 2010 14:03
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Decriminalize All Psychedelics. Now!
Well.. God in a Pill..
Thing is, once tripping religious people understand what God is then there is no need for organized religion and church as it is right now (so it would be kind of like Jesus wanted originally...).. so I'm sore the Vatican & others will not give their approval for this lol3 February 2010 14:03
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies Fans
Well.. God in a Pill..
Thing is, once tripping religious people understand what God is then there is no need for organized religion and church as it is right now (so it would be kind of like Jesus wanted originally...).. so I'm sore the Vatican & others will not give their approval for this lol3 February 2010 14:03
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Drop acid, not bombs.
Well.. God in a Pill..
Thing is, once tripping religious people understand what God is then there is no need for organized religion and church as it is right now (so it would be kind of like Jesus wanted originally...).. so I'm sore the Vatican & others will not give their approval for this lol3 February 2010 14:03
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Occult Knowledge
Well.. God in a Pill..
Thing is, once tripping religious people understand what God is then there is no need for organized religion and church as it is right now (so it would be kind of like Jesus wanted originally...).. so I'm sore the Vatican & others will not give their approval for this lol3 February 2010 14:03
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Humanity & Earth Shift
Well.. God in a Pill..
Thing is, once tripping religious people understand what God is then there is no need for organized religion and church as it is right now (so it would be kind of like Jesus wanted originally...).. so I'm sore the Vatican & others will not give their approval for this lol3 February 2010 14:03
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: 2012 - Earth Changes
Well.. God in a Pill..
Thing is, once tripping religious people understand what God is then there is no need for organized religion and church as it is right now (so it would be kind of like Jesus wanted originally...).. so I'm sore the Vatican & others will not give their approval for this lol3 February 2010 14:03
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Well.. God in a Pill..
Thing is, once tripping religious people understand what God is then there is no need for organized religion and church as it is right now (so it would be kind of like Jesus wanted originally...).. so I'm sore the Vatican & others will not give their approval for this lol
Thing is, once tripping religious people understand what God is then there is no need for organized religion and church as it is right now (so it would be kind of like Jesus wanted originally...).. so I'm sore the Vatican & others will not give their approval for this lol
3 February 2010 14:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: psychedelic
Yes i know we can hack rapidshare and steal free premium accounts... BUT WHY WOULD we need to do this crap if there is way better services available? 3 February 2010 13:46
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
So how would you comment Susan Blumenthal(8:24) & James Kent (the first guy) statement and how it fits together ?
3 February 2010 12:31
Margus Meigo commented on Ciaran Hollander's post.
Group: Genetic psychopaths are destroying our world AKA Political Ponerology
Well, i agree on most levels for what they are BUT acts like that is evil and will not succeed.
1. st THEY are way smarter by average then rest of us, they ARE if not one then many of these things often: stronger, better looking, more intelligent, in better positions, more clever, have more power and money... + add all the psychopathic elements and you will see this "labeling" would newer succeed and would be war that is long before lost ... remember, many of them ARE politicians.
But yes, it would be great if there would be possible by 100% identify them (if they are public figures or work in position that would need empathy) and make this test mandatory before people get power...but it can be labeled as medical condition and then the privacy act will come in
But in same time what then stops them to start campaign to identify all the HIV infected, Drug addicts, Gay's or any of the other groups that someone is concerned about? People who have cancer or other illness? They can be proven by some nuts to be more dangerous. So let's not turn to be Hitler or Scientology nuts (who have more extreme views then Hitler) here ok :)
I think even also scary is that many of the people in power are extreme religious (some call it just delusional or mental illness also) - this is can be even more dangerous as they have only one thing in mind from start to end... and we all know from history how much pity they had for other people who did not agree with them1 February 2010 12:15
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
They are way the cutest : ))
1 February 2010 01:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
:P
31 January 2010 21:16
Margus Meigo commented on Marian Võsumets's post.
/me lippab kinnu praegu, taxu ees
31 January 2010 16:15
Margus Meigo commented on Marian Võsumets's post.
Natukene jahedana jõudsime... vedu, et ike see takso juhi ülelaskmise nali varukas oli mul :P
Ning pildid un tulekul - kohe kui need kaamerast kätte saan ..
Kuidas ise? :)
Ning pildid un tulekul - kohe kui need kaamerast kätte saan ..
Kuidas ise? :)
31 January 2010 16:14
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Ree's post.
heleri tuleb täna-homme vist nede asjade järgi juba, seega lenna lenna : )
30 January 2010 12:18
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Ree's post.
Kuid nüüd armas inimene toimeta need part 3 välja prinditult ja muu stuff mu kätte ilusti :)
29 January 2010 13:56
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Ree's post.
Ha ha :D
Küsimus ise oli ka suht brainer ju :P
Küsimus ise oli ka suht brainer ju :P
28 January 2010 18:12
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Ree's post.
Muud ei ole midagi teha kui emailida neile ja küsida kas nad ikka saatsid ja kuhu nad saatsid
28 January 2010 18:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Erowid
Update: New's filter (that scans news from internet + special sources based on keywords) has been updated a bit!
Under Social RSS you can see Ajax links to: Psy | Mari | Hard | Alco | Forum |
- all of them will display 10 latest news items that matches the criteria ( we would say it's about 80% accuracy at least)
The Poll system will be added next month, share your thoughts what you want to find from EroWid Fan Page http://www.facebook.com/Erowid.Org :)28 January 2010 18:02
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Ree's post.
nu kui nad aadressi valesti kirjutasid siis läks valesse kohta.. sest mu aadressile ei ole midagi tulnud igatahes (hellasin järgi postkontorist)
28 January 2010 17:37
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Ree's post.
Slovenia oma on minuni jõudnud ainult, uurin järgi kus ülejäänud jäänud on
28 January 2010 16:46
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Ree's post.
ahjaa... "see, et sa paranoiline ei ole ei tähenda, et nad Sind ei jälgiks" xD
28 January 2010 12:50
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Ree's post.
Järgmine kord kui tundub, et keegi jällitab sind siis mine ja loo otse kontakt sellega kes arvad ennast jällitavat. See aitab paranoiast üle saada ning kui ka päriselt jällitas siis jätab ta selle tegevuse järgi :)
28 January 2010 12:49
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Ree's post.
Nu mu arust oli ikka hulk etem kui enamus vampiiri filme mis tehtud on ( päris top 5'te ei mahu kuid 10'nesse mahub kindlasti, vampiiri filmide seast siis ). Vähemalt polnud madala taseme märuliga yle külvatud või muidu väga odavate effektidega nagu suurem osa sellistest filmidest.
Ning ma usun, et see film suuresti on hitt ikka teismeliste seas eelkõige ning nod lähevad pöördesse :)
Ning ma usun, et see film suuresti on hitt ikka teismeliste seas eelkõige ning nod lähevad pöördesse :)
28 January 2010 12:47
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Ree's post.
Ma krisiineni muidu isegi reisiks välja kui väga vaja, sa kuskile sinna ei saaks tulla?
28 January 2010 12:38
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's post.
Heeey, enamvähem hästi läheb, kylm on aint selline, et võtab nina peast ära :p
Miss ya 2 xoxo
Miss ya 2 xoxo
28 January 2010 12:16
Margus Meigo commented on Triin Ree's post.
Eip liigu kahjuks, ma natuke tõbisena kodus :(
28 January 2010 12:14
Margus Meigo commented on Dawn Montefusco's link.
killer funny:D
27 January 2010 12:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: JPMorgan Chase Employees
More updates: http://chaseboycott.com/media/ 26 January 2010 20:50
Margus Meigo commented on StoptheDrugWar.org (DRCNet)'s link.
I think most world drug laws will start from USA / UN.
Global education and sites like EroWid ( http://www.facebook.com/Erowid.Org ) & NORML will help a lot imho
Global education and sites like EroWid ( http://www.facebook.com/Erowid.Org ) & NORML will help a lot imho
22 January 2010 22:51
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: What the BLEEP do we know?
Great video once again :))19 January 2010 04:30
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Great video once again :))
19 January 2010 04:30
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's link.
i first got 43 but i made some simple calculation mistakes
16 January 2010 17:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Shamanism
Yes it is :)14 January 2010 07:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Yes it is :)
14 January 2010 07:39
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Thank you Romik, good video clips as always :)
I always wonder, that if we are all made from one thing (well, even in simple science level it's true) then how can some people be so ignorant to say that we are only one's with a soul.
Keep enlightening Romik!
I always wonder, that if we are all made from one thing (well, even in simple science level it's true) then how can some people be so ignorant to say that we are only one's with a soul.
Keep enlightening Romik!
13 January 2010 23:35
Margus Meigo commented on The Teafaerie's link.
handy phone indeed in some situations :)
8 January 2010 11:51
Margus Meigo commented on Roman Perfilyev's photo.
Is these only kind of mushrooms that crow in Russia or is there also some other species ?
About metro system, i was always kind of interested about Metro 2 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Metro_2 ) - do you think it's actually operational still on this day ?
About metro system, i was always kind of interested about Metro 2 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Metro_2 ) - do you think it's actually operational still on this day ?
7 January 2010 20:53
Margus Meigo commented on Roman Perfilyev's photo.
Nice :))
7 January 2010 20:48
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sama siin :))
Kuid lume kogus on küll päris tubli mis maha kukkunud on, ehmatasin ära sandaalidega prygi välja viies täna :D
Kuid lume kogus on küll päris tubli mis maha kukkunud on, ehmatasin ära sandaalidega prygi välja viies täna :D
31 December 2009 01:50
Margus Meigo commented on Petra Wallnoefer's post.
Group: EVS Youth Plus Awarenes
Well, i am not so sore i did complete everything i needed to get the pass, i think some forms was not finished... i will try to dig this up soon and take second look for that. I just have been crazy busy whit so many different things ( working on new online community about drug education and global awareness. I will try to widen the portal later to point out the sex business & corruption problems etc) .
Latest project was in Bulgaria, it was nice :)
I am still getting ready to upload all the videos.. i think it would be interesting to take look at these times we had in Germany. Just newer getting around this u know.. :)
...now trying to get ready for Estonian project we make in Saaremaa. How have u been ?29 December 2009 19:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Damn i love all these ppl on this pic : )))
Cheers to everyone and see-ya again hopefully on some upcoming projects! :)))
Cheers to everyone and see-ya again hopefully on some upcoming projects! :)))
29 December 2009 19:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EVS Youth Plus Awarenes
Damn i love all these ppl on this pic : )))
Cheers to everyone and see-ya again hopefully on some upcoming projects! :)))29 December 2009 19:36
Margus Meigo commented on Roman Perfilyev's photo.
Yammmmmy!
29 December 2009 00:09
Margus Meigo commented on Julieann Laosantos Tumale's post.
awww :) How ya doing girl?
27 December 2009 22:53
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Liisa Sarapik's photo.
Häid pühi! :)))))
27 December 2009 22:39
Margus Meigo commented on Vít Pokorný's photo.
All the best also from Estonia! :))
26 December 2009 20:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
(yhe teise uuringu kohaselt oli aint u 220 millionit valget järgi, seega see 350 ei ole mingi utoopia).
Seega pigem tasuks mõelda kellel on mis konspiratsioon siin käimas.. :)
- ahjaa, ja kui oleks nagu effektiivne võimalus kuidas seda lamba karja siin vähendada, siis ma heameelega aitaks kaasa. Mingi viirus mis inimesed suguvõimetuks teevad vms näiteks. Iga üle 500 aasta võiks üks suurem laine olla sellise viirusega mis natukene siin asju korda seaks. AIDS ei ole eriti effektiine nagu näha kuna see päris kalliks läinud. Kuid kahjuks me ei ela ideaalses maailmas ja me jätkame sigimist kohtades kus seda pole vaja ja ei sigi seal kus seda oleks vaja.
laseme immigrante sisse sinna kuhu ei ole vaja, ei saada neid välja sealt kus on vaja ja piirame kaubandust ja nussime teisi seal kus seda pole vaja, seega yeah.. päris huvitav oleks näha kuhu see kompott välja areneb siin.
Teine grup idioote on minuarust need extreem rohelised kes arvavad, et maakera tuleb ära päästa.... WTF, meie äbarikud päästame siin... MAAKERA? natuke suurelt ei mõtle endast v. Me ei oska teineteise eestki hoolt kanda nagu enamus loomad ja me siin päästame maakera.
Kui emake maal meist väga villanud saab sis ta saab meist lahti nagu tüütudest kirpudest, see kera on siin olnud miljardeid aastaid olnud ja me oleme viimasest 200 000 st aastastainult viimased 200 aktiivsed olnud ja juba kujutavad osad ette, et suudame maakera tuksi keerata. Samas kui maakera on yle elanud jääaegasi, meteoriite, hiigel tulekahjusi ja üleujutusi, ning muud millest mitmed häppeningid inimesed lühikese ajaga viimase hingeni maakeralt pühiksid.
Kujutad ette, mis siis toimuks kui need sajad miljardid mis usa oma viimaste sõdade peale kulutanud on pidevalt... kuid selle raha oleksid nad kasutanud näteks mass haridusele ja õpetamisele "Kuidas elada" ?
Ahjaa.. ja kui tahad päris reaalseid inimesi tudma õppida, kes reaalselt soovivad inimeste arvu vähendada ja kogu maakeral systeemi sisse viia mis Hitleri ja Stalini koos häbisse jätaks "väikselt mõtlemise" pärast... siis uuri Kirik Saiontoloogiat :)
.. just seda kus ex siontoloogid räägivad mis nede visioon oli ja ... ja isegi wikipedia on hea resource sest wikil ja neil oli suur sõda sest wiki pani ebasobilikku informatsiooni nede kohta netti :P
- ning need suured staarid keda telekas näed, need on mitmed andunud S. kiriku vännid... :)
Seega pigem tasuks mõelda kellel on mis konspiratsioon siin käimas.. :)
- ahjaa, ja kui oleks nagu effektiivne võimalus kuidas seda lamba karja siin vähendada, siis ma heameelega aitaks kaasa. Mingi viirus mis inimesed suguvõimetuks teevad vms näiteks. Iga üle 500 aasta võiks üks suurem laine olla sellise viirusega mis natukene siin asju korda seaks. AIDS ei ole eriti effektiine nagu näha kuna see päris kalliks läinud. Kuid kahjuks me ei ela ideaalses maailmas ja me jätkame sigimist kohtades kus seda pole vaja ja ei sigi seal kus seda oleks vaja.
laseme immigrante sisse sinna kuhu ei ole vaja, ei saada neid välja sealt kus on vaja ja piirame kaubandust ja nussime teisi seal kus seda pole vaja, seega yeah.. päris huvitav oleks näha kuhu see kompott välja areneb siin.
Teine grup idioote on minuarust need extreem rohelised kes arvavad, et maakera tuleb ära päästa.... WTF, meie äbarikud päästame siin... MAAKERA? natuke suurelt ei mõtle endast v. Me ei oska teineteise eestki hoolt kanda nagu enamus loomad ja me siin päästame maakera.
Kui emake maal meist väga villanud saab sis ta saab meist lahti nagu tüütudest kirpudest, see kera on siin olnud miljardeid aastaid olnud ja me oleme viimasest 200 000 st aastastainult viimased 200 aktiivsed olnud ja juba kujutavad osad ette, et suudame maakera tuksi keerata. Samas kui maakera on yle elanud jääaegasi, meteoriite, hiigel tulekahjusi ja üleujutusi, ning muud millest mitmed häppeningid inimesed lühikese ajaga viimase hingeni maakeralt pühiksid.
Kujutad ette, mis siis toimuks kui need sajad miljardid mis usa oma viimaste sõdade peale kulutanud on pidevalt... kuid selle raha oleksid nad kasutanud näteks mass haridusele ja õpetamisele "Kuidas elada" ?
Ahjaa.. ja kui tahad päris reaalseid inimesi tudma õppida, kes reaalselt soovivad inimeste arvu vähendada ja kogu maakeral systeemi sisse viia mis Hitleri ja Stalini koos häbisse jätaks "väikselt mõtlemise" pärast... siis uuri Kirik Saiontoloogiat :)
.. just seda kus ex siontoloogid räägivad mis nede visioon oli ja ... ja isegi wikipedia on hea resource sest wikil ja neil oli suur sõda sest wiki pani ebasobilikku informatsiooni nede kohta netti :P
- ning need suured staarid keda telekas näed, need on mitmed andunud S. kiriku vännid... :)
22 December 2009 19:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
NU nagu ma ytlesid see täielik fantastika ja illusioon, et rahva arvu tahetakse vähendada - kontrollida lambaid pole mitte mingi probleem, selleks on välja mõeldud meedia ja kaabel televisioon, "meelelahutus" ning isegi facebook hoiab inimesed päris tegevuses igasuguste idiootsustega kui vaadata millega enamus siin tegelevad
Rahava arv on üle 8-9 miljardi enamuste arvutuste kohaselt aastaks 2050 ning seal hulgas valgete arv on 300-350 millionit ainult samade arvutuste kohaselt. Seega nagu näed suunatakse massid igasuguste kuulujuttudega hoopis vales suunas. Ning 10 miljardit on nalja kusta maakera jaoks - see pole mingi piir. Kunagi arvutati, et mõnisada millionit... siis, et paar miljardit inimest ja siis on maailma lõpp kuna resursse ei ole ja inimesed nälgiksid, tekiksid haigused ja sureksime kõik maha jne. Siis tehnoloogia arenes, meditsiin arenes ja tootmine arenes - ja jälle oldi rõõmsad kuni järgmine tark mingi arvutuste ja maailmalõpu teoorjatega välja tuli
Raha neil ei ole kunagi sitaks sest alati on kellegil rohkem - nad ei ole kõik yks suur võimas võim kes jagavad yhte ja sama rahapada. Ku keegi arvab, et hiinlased, venelased, juudid, araablased, ameeriklased ja neegrid kõik yhes koos rõõmsalt ühise eesmärgi nimel töötavad sõbralikult usaldades teineteist ja ilma teineteisele taha keermata siis on nad küll vaga naiivsed. Aasia riigid on need kelle käes suurem osa võimust on iga päevaga rohkem ja rohkem. USA'l siiamaani on ainult sõjaline suppervõim kuna nad baasid üle maailma endale loonud ja tehnoloogia selles vallas suht tipus. Kuid see ei tähenda, et nad iga maa saaksid ette võtta, hiinaga nad vaevalt nussima hakkavad kuna neile juba praegu väga mitu trillionit ( T ga ) nad omavad, et neid seniseid sõdasi pidada kuidagi moodi.
Raha väärtus kaob ära kui seda pidevalt lampi juurde trykkida, vaja on ikka suurt lamba karja, mida rohkem lambaid kelle jaoks see üks dollar palju maxab seda rohkem on su raha väärt. Kui ainult rikkad järgi jäävad kellel kõigil millionid kontol siis kaob kogu point ära ju.
Rahava arv on üle 8-9 miljardi enamuste arvutuste kohaselt aastaks 2050 ning seal hulgas valgete arv on 300-350 millionit ainult samade arvutuste kohaselt. Seega nagu näed suunatakse massid igasuguste kuulujuttudega hoopis vales suunas. Ning 10 miljardit on nalja kusta maakera jaoks - see pole mingi piir. Kunagi arvutati, et mõnisada millionit... siis, et paar miljardit inimest ja siis on maailma lõpp kuna resursse ei ole ja inimesed nälgiksid, tekiksid haigused ja sureksime kõik maha jne. Siis tehnoloogia arenes, meditsiin arenes ja tootmine arenes - ja jälle oldi rõõmsad kuni järgmine tark mingi arvutuste ja maailmalõpu teoorjatega välja tuli
Raha neil ei ole kunagi sitaks sest alati on kellegil rohkem - nad ei ole kõik yks suur võimas võim kes jagavad yhte ja sama rahapada. Ku keegi arvab, et hiinlased, venelased, juudid, araablased, ameeriklased ja neegrid kõik yhes koos rõõmsalt ühise eesmärgi nimel töötavad sõbralikult usaldades teineteist ja ilma teineteisele taha keermata siis on nad küll vaga naiivsed. Aasia riigid on need kelle käes suurem osa võimust on iga päevaga rohkem ja rohkem. USA'l siiamaani on ainult sõjaline suppervõim kuna nad baasid üle maailma endale loonud ja tehnoloogia selles vallas suht tipus. Kuid see ei tähenda, et nad iga maa saaksid ette võtta, hiinaga nad vaevalt nussima hakkavad kuna neile juba praegu väga mitu trillionit ( T ga ) nad omavad, et neid seniseid sõdasi pidada kuidagi moodi.
Raha väärtus kaob ära kui seda pidevalt lampi juurde trykkida, vaja on ikka suurt lamba karja, mida rohkem lambaid kelle jaoks see üks dollar palju maxab seda rohkem on su raha väärt. Kui ainult rikkad järgi jäävad kellel kõigil millionid kontol siis kaob kogu point ära ju.
22 December 2009 19:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yeees, just 5'50 for a boner bonus, order now or stay limp all your life!
22 December 2009 18:52
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
nu evil on esiteks suhteline termin :P
teiseks on suur osa lihtsalt normaalne kokkusattumus, ma usun, et ma leian seda 444 ja või 777't ka päris paljudest kohtadest.
Kolmandaks on väljas väga palju FNORD'i - ehk siis päris infot suure jamaga segatult mis naeruvääristab seda päris infot enamuste mõtlevate inimeste silmis. seega ei saa keegi seda "päris infot" enam puudutada kuna see nareuvääristatud.
kolmandaks nagu mille kuradi pärast peaksid need kõikvõimsad tahtma inimeste arvu maakeral vähendada kui nad teenivad seda rohkem mida rohkem lambaid inimesi maailmas on ju :D See on halenaljakas illusioon, et resursid otsa saavad alates veest ja lõpetades toiduga - ei saa. Inimene üks vähestest tegelastest kes ise suudab omale toitu tekitada edukalt ja syya mida iganes. Ega see pole vaesuse suur põhjus, et resursse pole, neid on kuhjaga. Lihtsalt raha ei teenita piisavalt selle pealt ning kellegile on kasulik see vaesus ka korruptsioon (on ka väikeseid erandeid kuid see selleks)
jne jne
Samas see on ka ilmselge, et need organisatsioonid on olemas yhel või teisel moe või nimega.. kuid mida nad tegelt represendivad või mida kõike teevad - seda tevad nad ise rääkida - oh, unustasin - seda pole lubatud ju:P
Enamus neist on lihtsalt pigem veidrike klubi kes on tegelt suht ohtutud (klubi mõttes) kensakad rikkurid kes oma rituaale ja mänge teevad, teiste omasugustega. Kuid inimestele meeldib draama ja mystika... ning siis vaja juurde leitudada kurat teab mida. Tihti need leidurid muuseas oma raamatuid ja muud nänni myyvad, et sind "valgustada"
vaevalt, et nende põhi jututeemaks on pidevalt kuidas maailma hävitada. Kuidas aga rohkem võimu ja raha kokku ajada? Kuidas inimeste peadega keppida? Milliseid poliitikuid või ärisi taskusse ajada? Seda kindlasti. Kindlasti mitmed ka õilsamaid ideesi mõtlevad... kuid noh, kirik on ka õilsate ideedega ju ja muust ei räägi kui armastusest..:P
teiseks on suur osa lihtsalt normaalne kokkusattumus, ma usun, et ma leian seda 444 ja või 777't ka päris paljudest kohtadest.
Kolmandaks on väljas väga palju FNORD'i - ehk siis päris infot suure jamaga segatult mis naeruvääristab seda päris infot enamuste mõtlevate inimeste silmis. seega ei saa keegi seda "päris infot" enam puudutada kuna see nareuvääristatud.
kolmandaks nagu mille kuradi pärast peaksid need kõikvõimsad tahtma inimeste arvu maakeral vähendada kui nad teenivad seda rohkem mida rohkem lambaid inimesi maailmas on ju :D See on halenaljakas illusioon, et resursid otsa saavad alates veest ja lõpetades toiduga - ei saa. Inimene üks vähestest tegelastest kes ise suudab omale toitu tekitada edukalt ja syya mida iganes. Ega see pole vaesuse suur põhjus, et resursse pole, neid on kuhjaga. Lihtsalt raha ei teenita piisavalt selle pealt ning kellegile on kasulik see vaesus ka korruptsioon (on ka väikeseid erandeid kuid see selleks)
jne jne
Samas see on ka ilmselge, et need organisatsioonid on olemas yhel või teisel moe või nimega.. kuid mida nad tegelt represendivad või mida kõike teevad - seda tevad nad ise rääkida - oh, unustasin - seda pole lubatud ju:P
Enamus neist on lihtsalt pigem veidrike klubi kes on tegelt suht ohtutud (klubi mõttes) kensakad rikkurid kes oma rituaale ja mänge teevad, teiste omasugustega. Kuid inimestele meeldib draama ja mystika... ning siis vaja juurde leitudada kurat teab mida. Tihti need leidurid muuseas oma raamatuid ja muud nänni myyvad, et sind "valgustada"
vaevalt, et nende põhi jututeemaks on pidevalt kuidas maailma hävitada. Kuidas aga rohkem võimu ja raha kokku ajada? Kuidas inimeste peadega keppida? Milliseid poliitikuid või ärisi taskusse ajada? Seda kindlasti. Kindlasti mitmed ka õilsamaid ideesi mõtlevad... kuid noh, kirik on ka õilsate ideedega ju ja muust ei räägi kui armastusest..:P
22 December 2009 17:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
luckily there is good filter & privacy system in fb, now i add all my retarded friends who does not spam my wall directly to the list that limits their feeds.
But yes Rein - i think even better would be to make sun spin around the earth and moon spin around the sun but i think we might need to get 15000000 or 20000000 people for that.. :( ... ... So lets now start all emails "send this message to every one OR your cat get hit by school bus and you will not get erection at least 7 years" "send this email to all your friends now, and we will add extra boner for your, totally free, offer ends soon, so act NOW!!!"
But yes Rein - i think even better would be to make sun spin around the earth and moon spin around the sun but i think we might need to get 15000000 or 20000000 people for that.. :( ... ... So lets now start all emails "send this message to every one OR your cat get hit by school bus and you will not get erection at least 7 years" "send this email to all your friends now, and we will add extra boner for your, totally free, offer ends soon, so act NOW!!!"
22 December 2009 17:42
Margus Meigo commented on The Illuminati, Hollywood & The Mainstream Media's link.
bdw - Matrix is awesome in so many ways ;)
22 December 2009 03:09
Margus Meigo commented on The Illuminati, Hollywood & The Mainstream Media's link.
One thing i do not like is when people get banned for expressing their views... shutting people down is kind of thing what "they" should do, no?
22 December 2009 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on The Illuminati, Hollywood & The Mainstream Media's post.
All the Jodorowsky fils are kind of must see for everyone who want to see... more. El Topo is also no doubt the classic.
I like the saying "You do not need drugs to enjoy these fils - it has been done for you"
In the new film King Shot, Marilin Manson is also present
I like the saying "You do not need drugs to enjoy these fils - it has been done for you"
In the new film King Shot, Marilin Manson is also present
22 December 2009 03:06
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
LOL, i also got some good spotlight when i joined Illuminati haters group and i was... the 666'th member there LOL
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30821520&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=186597018485&aid=-1&id=1135161043#/photo.php?pid=30821520&op=1&o=all&view=all&subj=186597018485&aid=-1&oid=186597018485&id=1135161043
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30821520&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=186597018485&aid=-1&id=1135161043#/photo.php?pid=30821520&op=1&o=all&view=all&subj=186597018485&aid=-1&oid=186597018485&id=1135161043
22 December 2009 02:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
lol & i have 666 friends :D:D:D
22 December 2009 02:55
Margus Meigo commented on Ornella Jõgi's post.
Totan täitsa Ornella ideed, see mafiawars on owerrated ja ei anna midagi :D
21 December 2009 23:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
yes it is, well said :P
21 December 2009 14:54
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
:))
21 December 2009 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
:))
Kuidas tartus jõulud lähenevad,lund kõvasti ?
Kuidas tartus jõulud lähenevad,lund kõvasti ?
21 December 2009 14:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
We also added you to out favorites :)
21 December 2009 02:57
Margus Meigo commented on Kaidi Soonberg's post.
Millist meelelahutust? :)
21 December 2009 00:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Baltic States belong to Northern Europe, not Eastern!!!
Everyone can have their small dream :P20 December 2009 20:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Everyone can have their small dream :P
20 December 2009 20:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: Shamanism
uhh.. link got a bit wrong :(18 December 2009 21:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
uhh.. link got a bit wrong :(
18 December 2009 21:41
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Murdoch's post.
Group: End Marijuana Prohibition
lol.. i just told my parents (one is conservative republican other is kind of conservative red.. not married anymore:D ) that they need to try it to understand how stupid it is to ban it.. so they tried it :)18 December 2009 21:28
Margus Meigo commented on Ghagne Ousseni's photo.
Cool picture!
18 December 2009 19:36
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Like in here : )
18 December 2009 19:35
Margus Meigo commented on Kaidi Soonberg's post.
IT, EU projectid, psyhhotroopsete ainte osas inimeste harimine, poliitikat natuke, maailma päästmine jne :P
Ise?
Ise?
18 December 2009 18:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Nu loodame et ike midagi jõuab, muidu suht porno oleks :D
17 December 2009 21:43
Margus Meigo commented on Kaidi Soonberg's post.
Tegelt asi nii hull ei ole kui paistab, umbes ainult 250 on päris elu tuttavaid, siis umbes 150-200 on kuidagi nede läbi või yle interneti vesteldes sattunud ja siis u 200 on sellised juhu tuttavad või päris lambikad - neile eraldi list "lambikad" lausa tehtud eri piirangutega :D
Kogematta suur hulk singapurist inimesi ntex mu listi sattus enne kui emaili kontakte importisin, varsti vajagi suurpuhastus puhastus ette võtta :)
Niisama muidu ringi surfates kedagi ise ei lisa, muidu läheks elu eriti hulluks :P
Kogematta suur hulk singapurist inimesi ntex mu listi sattus enne kui emaili kontakte importisin, varsti vajagi suurpuhastus puhastus ette võtta :)
Niisama muidu ringi surfates kedagi ise ei lisa, muidu läheks elu eriti hulluks :P
17 December 2009 21:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Updatesin just EroWidi lehe statti ja nyyd proovin päris tööda õhtut jätkata. Seega suhteliselt kiirelt kulgeb. Endal?
17 December 2009 21:03
Margus Meigo commented on Kaidi Soonberg's post.
täitsa võimalik, et tulevane uus tuttav. Kuigi sa mu aadressi raamatus olid - pole päris kindel kuidas sinna sattusid - sain siin facebookis kontakte just uuendatud ja mitu uut-võõrast tuttavat on tekkinud :)
17 December 2009 21:03
Margus Meigo commented on Kaidi Soonberg's post.
Päris normaalselt... tegusalt :)
Endal? :)
Endal? :)
17 December 2009 20:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Sorry, my bad. Actually the Canada was 1'st and Serbia 2'nd but soon i think Serbia might be first - really great numbers anyways considering English is not your native language! :)
17 December 2009 20:41
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
Awww... you are wonderful as always my darling : ))
Kisses
Kisses
17 December 2009 14:12
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
Well i think i will take trip to Russia soon but i might wait the summer - if Estonia is cold i think Russia is killing cold - i cant handle so much vodka to survive lol:P
But you keep it warm and do not get cold, ok? :)
But you keep it warm and do not get cold, ok? :)
16 December 2009 13:09
Margus Meigo commented on Eeva-Liisa Mustkivi's post.
Paljuga samal ajal : )
14 December 2009 19:19
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's post.
Alcohol industry would be devastated whit no time if people who say it would mean it
kuid ää muretse, see tunne läheb kiirelt mööda .)
kuid ää muretse, see tunne läheb kiirelt mööda .)
14 December 2009 18:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
here is one other interesting video about hiphop& NWO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSP4w_q1g0g
2 December 2009 11:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
i'm good also. but just überBusy in last moth.
Lol, well even most Estonains i believe is not eating kama so much so its okey :P ...but yeah talking about Kama i will go and fix for myself one now :P
Lol, well even most Estonains i believe is not eating kama so much so its okey :P ...but yeah talking about Kama i will go and fix for myself one now :P
23 November 2009 03:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
yamm! !
20 November 2009 05:35
Margus Meigo commented on Jack Leung's link.
I hope you guys will be back, there is much more to see! : )))
18 November 2009 00:17
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
No one can. We would have no look at all left if we would start to change our look according to every feeling we have :)
any CS meeting planned soon?
any CS meeting planned soon?
11 November 2009 18:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
That's right Rein :)
bdw when did u get the new hair cut? This is so... new! :D
great quote Mathijs :)
bdw when did u get the new hair cut? This is so... new! :D
great quote Mathijs :)
11 November 2009 17:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
& im not telling you to belive every "anti gov" video in internetz (or all the information in all videos) - but just think for a change and research for the truth!
You have the time if you waste it in here!
You have the time if you waste it in here!
9 November 2009 03:45
Margus Meigo commented on Grete Utso's post.
Mul võttis lisaks kätele-jalgadele ka pea:P
2 November 2009 21:48
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Tantaroba's post.
Sorry i have been a bit occupied... i will try to upload them tonight-tomorrow :)
1 November 2009 13:22
Margus Meigo commented on Angelica Tantaroba's photo.
Hahaha... well this picture looks cool :D:D
26 October 2009 02:47
Margus Meigo commented on Maija Briška's photo.
arrrh, that's sexy! ;)
24 October 2009 23:58
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's link.
jup, suht sama jutt ka yhe interneti "isade" kohta käib ja Apple looja kohta... ning siis veel mitmed muud tegelased kes ise otse öelnud on.. "jah, nii oli & it helped me" : )
kuid samas, kindlasti on terve hulk lambaid kes oma viimase päevani kahetsevad, et (enamasti valesti) proovisid. Ning keda ka hea kasutada on propakandas..
Muide sveitsis MAPP taotleb LSD uuringute jaoks luba nagu aru sain.. ning läbi kivide kändude suht positiivses suunas asjad liiguvad.
Mul seal EroWid Fan Page'l need RSS uudised liiguvad.. (psy all vist) seal mitmed korrad juba see uudis läbi käinud. Well.. let's hope for the best : )
kuid samas, kindlasti on terve hulk lambaid kes oma viimase päevani kahetsevad, et (enamasti valesti) proovisid. Ning keda ka hea kasutada on propakandas..
Muide sveitsis MAPP taotleb LSD uuringute jaoks luba nagu aru sain.. ning läbi kivide kändude suht positiivses suunas asjad liiguvad.
Mul seal EroWid Fan Page'l need RSS uudised liiguvad.. (psy all vist) seal mitmed korrad juba see uudis läbi käinud. Well.. let's hope for the best : )
19 October 2009 15:19
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's link.
ehehe.. yep... nu yeah kasutanud nad kõik ju on seda (vaevalt, et ainult korra) kuid jah.. eks ta effektiivsem ole kui Obama & Bill Gatesi jms samale joonele stoneritega panna.
Muide viimane olevat ka LSD'd kasutanud :p
Muide viimane olevat ka LSD'd kasutanud :p
19 October 2009 14:10
Margus Meigo commented on Phaedra Sinatra's link.
Yep, i have been looking MPP-TV videos before, some are pretty educative for general public. Some might be a bit misleading but just because they are so short so it's impossible to put all the needed info in.
19 October 2009 14:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Natuke lisalugemist ka eesti keeles: http://www.roheline.ee/content/view/280/7/lang,et/
18 September 2009 16:37
Margus Meigo commented on Gerard McGovern's post.
yes, city is usually a lot decorated but li do not know what will happen this year ( u know, crisis and everything)
9 September 2009 13:21
Margus Meigo commented on Fernando Paternostro's link.
Lol i just saw this news actually on facebook.com/EroWid.Org page rss feed but readit when i saw it second time here
8 September 2009 23:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
more from www.facebook.com/pages/Waffa-Margus-Meigo-life-traveling-humor-comedy-sex-jokes-video-music-/14202806093 :P
8 September 2009 23:04
Margus Meigo commented on Fernando Paternostro's link.
what next, they go and start to destroy sun flowers ?
8 September 2009 23:03
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
My dear, sounds like a plan! :)
I think it's really easy to get visa to Estonia - much more easy then to get visa to russia as we know - but yeah... narva is not much to see after war - for most part it's lot of communist system project houses (before it was one of the nicest places in europe, older,a lot bigger and nicer then Old Town in Tallinn) it is good place to see the "other Side of estonia" but it has currently nothing to do whit Estonia(ns) (well, some say it's still better then Sillamäe). This does not mean there is nothing to see of-course.
So yeah what i want to say is that u should visit also Tallinn and maybe some country places to get a bit more full picture of life here. & no need to worry about hotels - staying is free here 4 u :)
I still dream to visit some more known arias in Russia whit in next 2 years - i hope ya will be my guide then.
To bad ur not coming when weather is warmer ... i HATE cold (well this means vodga is on you if u want to get me out :D )
I think it's really easy to get visa to Estonia - much more easy then to get visa to russia as we know - but yeah... narva is not much to see after war - for most part it's lot of communist system project houses (before it was one of the nicest places in europe, older,a lot bigger and nicer then Old Town in Tallinn) it is good place to see the "other Side of estonia" but it has currently nothing to do whit Estonia(ns) (well, some say it's still better then Sillamäe). This does not mean there is nothing to see of-course.
So yeah what i want to say is that u should visit also Tallinn and maybe some country places to get a bit more full picture of life here. & no need to worry about hotels - staying is free here 4 u :)
I still dream to visit some more known arias in Russia whit in next 2 years - i hope ya will be my guide then.
To bad ur not coming when weather is warmer ... i HATE cold (well this means vodga is on you if u want to get me out :D )
8 September 2009 17:22
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
We do well darling just some political struggle in here before elections.. how's Mother Russia?: )
Try to find a time and visit us, ok? ;)
Try to find a time and visit us, ok? ;)
8 September 2009 12:46
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Jep, väga helge ning ega see info oligi mõeldud rohkem audiencile u know :P
Spirit molekule muidu läbi loetud?
Ma selle fili tegijaga muidu enne tihedas meili suhtluses olin.. pidi mulle transkripti saatma, et DVDile saaksime eestikeele tõlke ka teha jne kuid juba üle poole aasta venib asi... peaksingi uurima mis seal toimub neil :)
Spirit molekule muidu läbi loetud?
Ma selle fili tegijaga muidu enne tihedas meili suhtluses olin.. pidi mulle transkripti saatma, et DVDile saaksime eestikeele tõlke ka teha jne kuid juba üle poole aasta venib asi... peaksingi uurima mis seal toimub neil :)
5 September 2009 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
I cant imagine what Bill would say about todays world if he would still be alive...
4 September 2009 14:25
Margus Meigo commented on Jon Lajoie's link.
this is exactly the kind of songs we need on these times.
the corporate bitches part remind me a Bill Hicks : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J10w3FuCwfQ
the corporate bitches part remind me a Bill Hicks : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J10w3FuCwfQ
4 September 2009 14:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Yep kris, well said!
But maybe good time would be 2012 ;) - if we look how fast things go is number sounds more and more attractive (even if it is just a number for many). I personally would want population to learn years before something like that will go to masses - right now people are sorely not ready imho.
But who will throw the first rock (back)?
But maybe good time would be 2012 ;) - if we look how fast things go is number sounds more and more attractive (even if it is just a number for many). I personally would want population to learn years before something like that will go to masses - right now people are sorely not ready imho.
But who will throw the first rock (back)?
4 September 2009 12:39
Margus Meigo commented on Gerard McGovern's post.
Thank you man!
But yeah we are really much Nordic if you are in right places.. try to visit places like Kohtla Järve, Sillamäe and Narva and you see a bit different picture..:P
I think in Latvia and Lithuania also have really modern and nice places and also some bad places like we all have :)
Anyway i send u some info to mailbox. Let me also know when you have time to meet up :)
But yeah we are really much Nordic if you are in right places.. try to visit places like Kohtla Järve, Sillamäe and Narva and you see a bit different picture..:P
I think in Latvia and Lithuania also have really modern and nice places and also some bad places like we all have :)
Anyway i send u some info to mailbox. Let me also know when you have time to meet up :)
3 September 2009 19:51
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kuid yeah, mul endal ka nii selle alased vanad klassikad plaanis läbi lugeda (sirvimise asemel). Sest tänu uuringutele mida siin ja seal tegema hakatakse nüüd varsti hakkab uut kirjandust nii palju peale tulema kohe kui laborid julgemaks lähevad, et suht raske oleks ennast kursis hoida kõige uuega (baced on kuhu suunas asjad liikuma on hakanud - mehikos lisaks muule LSD eest väikeses koguses ei karistata enam (ega vist ei lasta isegi maha enam) rootsis valitsus ise maksis MDMA pro uurigute eest, MAPS jne..
Mul päris mitmed vajalikud raamatud PDF'idena arvutisse kogutud on (uuel lehel jagamiseks) kuid peaks ikka päris raamatuna Amazonist tellima, siis mugavam lugeda ning ehk mõni sent ka autori fondi läheb - need suht soodsad ning seda väärt usun :)
Mul päris mitmed vajalikud raamatud PDF'idena arvutisse kogutud on (uuel lehel jagamiseks) kuid peaks ikka päris raamatuna Amazonist tellima, siis mugavam lugeda ning ehk mõni sent ka autori fondi läheb - need suht soodsad ning seda väärt usun :)
3 September 2009 19:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Ise ma usun, et väga väike protsent on neid kes teatsid mida kuidas teha, teatsid mida teha kui halb reis tuleb ning kes SIIS kogemuse sai mida kogu elu kahetseb või koguni pöördumatu kahjustuse sai tänu L'ile. Enamuste õnnetuste suurimaks teguriks oli enamasti algajad kes enamasti halbade teadmistega sellest kus kuidas kellega mida teha jne IMHO & selle põhjal mida lugenud olen. Ühesõnaga selle kohane haridus/haritus on kõige alus - ilma selleta pole massidel midagi head loota kui legaliseerimiseni (õigemini reguleerimiseni) asjad peaksid jõudma ning oleksin ka ise selle suuna suhtes skeptiline asjade sellise käigu puhul...
Kogenud kasutajate "halvad reisid" on pigem (väga)õpetlikud kui halvad enamasti IMHO. Mitte, et ma ise nüüd suur Shaman oleksin või spetsialist vms :P
Kogenud kasutajate "halvad reisid" on pigem (väga)õpetlikud kui halvad enamasti IMHO. Mitte, et ma ise nüüd suur Shaman oleksin või spetsialist vms :P
3 September 2009 19:38
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Nu vanasti kasutati teda päris palju psühholoogias (õigemini lühikese perjoodi jooksul katsetati palju erinevaid asju, väga huvitavate ja tihti positiivsete tulemustega... Kui just ei olnud vaja negatiivseid tulemusi nagu viimases suuremas valitsuse testis kus katse alused kinni seoti suuure koguse L'i all...) . Tänapäeval jep kasutatakse seda vahest/väga harva sest peaaegu ülemaailmselt on mitte ainult selle kasutamine keelatud vaid on ka keelatud selle uurimine sõna otseses mõttes. Osades kohtades on uurimine lubatud KUI loa saad aga luba kunagi ei anta ... MAPS vist ühed vähesed kes sellel alal midagi suuremat teha on saanud ning ka miskeid lubasi taodelnud läbi higi ja vaeva. Kuigi väga suured positiivsed suunad on näha viimaste aastate jooksul õnneks.. nagu nad ütlesid kui nad L'iga hakkama saavad (10 a jooksul) siis kõik muu on äärmiselt lihtne ja loogiline.
3 September 2009 19:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
but as many things it can be dangerous for some people. Like cow milk can kill some people if they drink it can acid in rare cases 'messup' some people if not properly used. But there is even more safer alternative - psilocybin ...
1 September 2009 23:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
well it has been proven to be extremely useful for treatment for drug addiction, alcohol addiction, resolving personal problems and so much more. In same time it has been used illegally about 50 years ( + used by masses on 60ths) so all the long term effects should be known.
it is also not toxic - dangerous dose is 1000 times stronger then needed one (can i bring parallel to alcohol or other things that just 5-10 times of needed 'dose' will kill you). But people will need strong education first... newer underestimate stupidity of people (like for starters the ones who drink & drive currently... or the ones who think alcohol is safe for every one - just walking on local bars you can see many people who shall keep away from alcohol but they still use it... same things will probably happen whit LSD when it hits mainstream again - and it will sooner or later). Yoga used to be als ofor carzy people before
it is also not toxic - dangerous dose is 1000 times stronger then needed one (can i bring parallel to alcohol or other things that just 5-10 times of needed 'dose' will kill you). But people will need strong education first... newer underestimate stupidity of people (like for starters the ones who drink & drive currently... or the ones who think alcohol is safe for every one - just walking on local bars you can see many people who shall keep away from alcohol but they still use it... same things will probably happen whit LSD when it hits mainstream again - and it will sooner or later). Yoga used to be als ofor carzy people before
1 September 2009 23:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
From http://www.facebook.com/Erowid.Org page :)
1 September 2009 18:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
It WAS WONDERFUL! : )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
25 August 2009 13:04
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's post.
Sinule ka kallis Liina : ))))
Ma täna Vabaka avamisele, suht võimsat showd lubati!
Ma täna Vabaka avamisele, suht võimsat showd lubati!
20 August 2009 12:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
yep, i think this going to be really nice :)
20 August 2009 12:55
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Trantanella's post.
Group: Estonia
Just wanted to ask this same for you Gerard :))
[me from http://www.facebook.com/Eestimaa page]20 August 2009 03:49
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
(Bush he mentions is Bush the First)
MSG or comment your opinion about this video. :)
MSG or comment your opinion about this video. :)
11 August 2009 12:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Michael Parenti is an internationally known author and lecturer. He is one of the nation's leading progressive political analysts
11 August 2009 12:37
Margus Meigo commented on Stephanie Samyn's post.
Yes i did but i feel i will die now :P
See you guys soon in Amsterdam :))
See you guys soon in Amsterdam :))
10 August 2009 20:58
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Sepp's post.
Nu endiselt pole pidu old ? Kuhu mu kutse jäi ?? :P
2 August 2009 23:19
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Mingi DejaVoo vist, mu arust sa juba ammu facebooki liige olid ju?
1 August 2009 13:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Kuidagi jama, et te kontakti unustasin võtta :P
30 July 2009 12:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
This was AWESOME!!!!
29 July 2009 04:01
Margus Meigo commented on Ai Does's post.
Group: The Globe
i had all the things 3D before i come to your tent lol :P28 July 2009 18:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
R.I.P. Michael :)
22 July 2009 16:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Yes, i am pretty sore its really nice one. Try to come next year!
22 July 2009 15:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
See laul on pühendusega kallile Krista Peedile :D
22 July 2009 01:04
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's photo.
oeh pilt natuke vara tuli, ma väikemehe näo ees :(
21 July 2009 19:19
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's photo.
awwww.... :)
(K)
(K)
21 July 2009 03:10
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's photo.
Nice : ))
21 July 2009 03:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own album.
thank you :)
17 July 2009 02:34
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's album.
you have seen more Estonia then most estonians who live here :))
16 July 2009 19:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
anyone who did not get it: then for starters, i posted before CIA agent picture who was masked as a "terrorist"... i mean for YOU originally was this newspaper picture meant to be AS terrorist.. anyway ... facebook disabled this picture because "you can not have guns on facebook pictures" ... so this picture is from CIA website... whit a little makeup (look the orig pic from cia website) ....
"DCI Counterterrorist Center "Terrorist Buster" Logo"
this is the logo what makes us allll safe... don't you think so
"DCI Counterterrorist Center "Terrorist Buster" Logo"
this is the logo what makes us allll safe... don't you think so
12 July 2009 16:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
& anyone who do not understand the song & the point ... and thinks it's offensive: get a brain & go find a soul!
12 July 2009 15:27
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
ahjaa, reedel olen õlle summeril ja laupäev-pühapäev olen Nõidade laagris väga kenas kohas http://www.aigarsade.com/noidadesuvelaager.html :)
Millal te lahkustegi?
Millal te lahkustegi?
10 July 2009 02:19
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's post.
loodan, et sa paraned kiiresti : )))
10 July 2009 01:26
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's photo.
Te ikka NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIii armsad, eriti nedes riietes : )))
10 July 2009 01:20
Margus Meigo commented on Liisa Raudkepp's photo.
yeah.. the crowd was like over 110 000 people - this was fantastic!
7 July 2009 04:06
Margus Meigo commented on Iskander Ahmet's post.
kle mul eile enne minekut kadus tuju ära, et minna... seega yeah, jäi nagu minematta.
3 July 2009 12:53
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's photo.
Come in Come in !
29 June 2009 19:05
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Sepp's post.
kasiinosi peaksime rohkem nagu turistidele reklaamima mite kohalikele. Loomulikult maksavad nad meeletult makse (õnneks) kuid kasiino saarena ja muude hyvedega lendaksid inimesed siia pummeldama samas saaksime paremini kontrollida, et kasiino s... Loe edasiõltlased sinna ei pääseks kelle kasiinodest eemale hoidmiseks kasiinod eriti tööd ei tee nagu näha on olnud. Muidugi tuleks veel odav lennud siia korraldada ja palju ymber teha kuid võimalik oleks kyll siia ex-soviet Amsterdam-Lasvegas aint teha mis oleks edukam... :))
Vaadates kasumeid mida kasiinod teenivad (suuremad) nad väga nuriseda ei saa, eriti kui 16 eeku renti mõni maksab :D
Vaadates kasumeid mida kasiinod teenivad (suuremad) nad väga nuriseda ei saa, eriti kui 16 eeku renti mõni maksab :D
27 June 2009 22:49
Margus Meigo commented on David Clancy's link.
colorful/interesting stuff:))
27 June 2009 16:59
Margus Meigo commented on Kristiina Kupits's post.
yep they are :))
27 June 2009 16:55
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's photo.
ma võtan järgminekord teibi kaasa kui getteriga kuskile yritusele lähen :D:D
27 June 2009 04:13
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Liisa Sarapik's album.
Õnne tagant järele veelkord ka Eesti poolt, õnne pole kunagi liiast! Kenad pildid :)
27 June 2009 04:02
Margus Meigo commented on Anne Liisa Sarapik's album.
Õnne tagant järele veelkord ka Eesti poolt, õnne pole kunagi liiast! Kenad pildid :)
27 June 2009 04:02
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Sepp's post.
lugemisega raskusi Marek?
nu yx on kohe kui vanalinna sisse minna lastemaailma poolt. Ning kas seal vanalinna tornis mitte ka yx kasiino ei olnud ? vb osad nyyd viimases kriisis juba ajutiselt kinni vms .. Kasiino Classic peaks veel olema... Viru tänav 18 maksab järgmised 40 aastat veel 16 KROONI renti kuus - seal oli vist Casino Grand Prix kui ei eksi... well näiteid palju kuid ega ma neid siin eriti peast ei tea, linna valitsus saab selle arvepidamise välja printida sulle kui vaja usun :)
Kuid neid pole üldse vaja hunnikuse üle linna igale poole, ka neid teisi - need tuleks enamuses mingi saare peale ära viia :D
Mingeid klubisi ka seal tegelt mõned kus hunnikus kohalikke juuatäis peaga töllerdavad lällavad, seal võiks ka kord majas olla.
nu yx on kohe kui vanalinna sisse minna lastemaailma poolt. Ning kas seal vanalinna tornis mitte ka yx kasiino ei olnud ? vb osad nyyd viimases kriisis juba ajutiselt kinni vms .. Kasiino Classic peaks veel olema... Viru tänav 18 maksab järgmised 40 aastat veel 16 KROONI renti kuus - seal oli vist Casino Grand Prix kui ei eksi... well näiteid palju kuid ega ma neid siin eriti peast ei tea, linna valitsus saab selle arvepidamise välja printida sulle kui vaja usun :)
Kuid neid pole üldse vaja hunnikuse üle linna igale poole, ka neid teisi - need tuleks enamuses mingi saare peale ära viia :D
Mingeid klubisi ka seal tegelt mõned kus hunnikus kohalikke juuatäis peaga töllerdavad lällavad, seal võiks ka kord majas olla.
27 June 2009 00:25
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Sepp's post.
Kuid yah... palju saab teha - vanalinna ma teeks ka rohkem VANA linnaks pekstes välja sealt kõik ebasobiliku eesotsas kasiinodega (linnavalitusel vist ka see plaan oli, loodame, et täitab ära). Ning sadama osa ümber ehitamine küll läheks miljardeid maksma, et sinna midagi uut ja atraktiivset teha turistidele (lõbustusasutused, kohvikud jne).. kuid eks loodame selleks kunagi ka rahad tulevad... praeguse kava järgi oli vist plaan üle 3 me miljardi kulutada turistide siia meelitamiseks - loodame, et see ära tasub.
Kuid ma olen ENAM kui veendunud, et Eestist saaks turistide kulla augu kui siia kasiino saar teha ning seega kohalike kasiino sõltlaste silme alt saaks enamus kasiinosi ära koristada. Lisaks kergemad mõnuained ära reguleerida (mitte legaliseerida!) nagu seda mitmes targemas maas tegema hakatakse kus religioonist pimestatud enam nii palju ei olda. Samas me ei lõika mingit kasu kui me seda teiste järgi sörkides teeme hiljem kui UN lubab.
Kuid ma olen ENAM kui veendunud, et Eestist saaks turistide kulla augu kui siia kasiino saar teha ning seega kohalike kasiino sõltlaste silme alt saaks enamus kasiinosi ära koristada. Lisaks kergemad mõnuained ära reguleerida (mitte legaliseerida!) nagu seda mitmes targemas maas tegema hakatakse kus religioonist pimestatud enam nii palju ei olda. Samas me ei lõika mingit kasu kui me seda teiste järgi sörkides teeme hiljem kui UN lubab.
26 June 2009 18:59
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Sepp's post.
Meil käib umbes 3.5 millionit turisti aastas mis on umbes 10 000 turisti IGA päeva peale - ma ei ütleks, et see väga nadi tulemus on. Tallinnat peaaegu alati on kiidetud rohkem mitmes osas eri turismi foorumites kui baltimaade linnu võrreldakse.
Kui % järgi võtta siis USA's (kus nö olemas kõik) peaks käima umbes miljard ehk 1/6 kogu maailma inimestest, et samasugust turistide protsenti saavutada.
Meie lennujaam ei suudagi ka koos juurde ehitusega normaalselt üle 2.5 millioni reisja vastu võtta.
Kuid yeah, Riia lennu jaam ON väga tasemel võrreldes Tallinna omaga - pole kahtlust. Kuid see ei tee nüüd küll Riiat paremaks või ei õigusta Tallinna mahategemist
:)
Kui % järgi võtta siis USA's (kus nö olemas kõik) peaks käima umbes miljard ehk 1/6 kogu maailma inimestest, et samasugust turistide protsenti saavutada.
Meie lennujaam ei suudagi ka koos juurde ehitusega normaalselt üle 2.5 millioni reisja vastu võtta.
Kuid yeah, Riia lennu jaam ON väga tasemel võrreldes Tallinna omaga - pole kahtlust. Kuid see ei tee nüüd küll Riiat paremaks või ei õigusta Tallinna mahategemist
:)
26 June 2009 18:45
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Sepp's post.
Muidugi sa saad aru kallis Evelin, et suur osa neist reisjatest ei sõida lennukiga Riiat külastama ja KUI neil samas hoos tõuseb resjate arv (kes riia lennujaamast läbi sõidavad), siis on neil ISEGI 2 millionit latti kasumit võimalus saada.
Me oleksime muidugi AMMU pidanud Easy Jeti, Ryan Airi ja Baltic Airlinesi siia meelitama - need on need mille kaudu enamus reisjaid neil tuleb arvatvasti.
Samahästi võiksid Lätlased meie sadama pärast nutta - ainuüksi umbes 300 kruiisi tuleb meil aastas külla millest mõni mahutab üle 3000 reisja. Meil on põhja euroopa üks tegusamaid sadamaid.
Me oleksime muidugi AMMU pidanud Easy Jeti, Ryan Airi ja Baltic Airlinesi siia meelitama - need on need mille kaudu enamus reisjaid neil tuleb arvatvasti.
Samahästi võiksid Lätlased meie sadama pärast nutta - ainuüksi umbes 300 kruiisi tuleb meil aastas külla millest mõni mahutab üle 3000 reisja. Meil on põhja euroopa üks tegusamaid sadamaid.
26 June 2009 18:43
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
arvatvasti kuskile kus ka veekogu on, vaatan kaarti ja mõtlen alles kuhu täpsemalt:P
25 June 2009 17:03
Margus Meigo commented on Helvi M. Sarapik's post.
anyway kui kuidagi aidata saan siis anna teada :)
25 June 2009 17:00
Margus Meigo commented on Helvi M. Sarapik's post.
Oi.. juba kodu palavik peal...
Kodus jõuab alati olla, siin võta mis võtta annab (lisaks õlle summeritele igasuguseid muid teistsuguseid vahvaid üritusi ju..)
Mul on probleem, et ei jõua pooligi asju teha mis plaanis on isegi mõni öö magamise vahelt ära jättes.
Kodus jõuab alati olla, siin võta mis võtta annab (lisaks õlle summeritele igasuguseid muid teistsuguseid vahvaid üritusi ju..)
Mul on probleem, et ei jõua pooligi asju teha mis plaanis on isegi mõni öö magamise vahelt ära jättes.
25 June 2009 17:00
Margus Meigo commented on Janar Einula's post.
võiks kyll, sa õlle summerdama ka lähed?
25 June 2009 12:08
Margus Meigo commented on Nicholas Kristof's post.
lol, good one "it's a bug"
25 June 2009 06:04
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
Väga hea pilt (ma ise olen muidugi nagu hiinlane seal vms :D) :))
24 June 2009 16:44
Margus Meigo commented on Madli Kilumets's post.
ei ole olemas mingit "kõigeparemat" läpparit muidugi kahjuks :P
Kuid saaks ehk vaadata midagi mingisuguse kindla kasutamise jaoks (kodutöö, kontoritöö, multimedia, gaming, kui oluline on aku kestvus, kui suur ekraan jne) mingis kindlas hinnaklassis arvutit : )
Kuid saaks ehk vaadata midagi mingisuguse kindla kasutamise jaoks (kodutöö, kontoritöö, multimedia, gaming, kui oluline on aku kestvus, kui suur ekraan jne) mingis kindlas hinnaklassis arvutit : )
21 June 2009 02:15
Margus Meigo commented on Classic Nkosi's post.
That's correct :))
17 June 2009 20:30
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's post.
Mul erilisi plaane reisida ei ole (veel) : )
17 June 2009 00:40
Margus Meigo commented on Zieta Kruger Khan's post.
Hello Zieta :))
I am doing fine, how girls are doing? Send them greetings... and this little cool kid (boy) who was in my computer class, say him and hes mother also special greetings!
is the american girl still there?
I am doing fine, how girls are doing? Send them greetings... and this little cool kid (boy) who was in my computer class, say him and hes mother also special greetings!
is the american girl still there?
16 June 2009 22:12
Margus Meigo commented on Aili Vahtla's post.
jep : )))
kuidas tartu oli? Mis lähi ajal plaanis on?
Mul endal suht kiire, kuid vb mõtleb välja miskit :)
kuidas tartu oli? Mis lähi ajal plaanis on?
Mul endal suht kiire, kuid vb mõtleb välja miskit :)
16 June 2009 22:11
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Brian Flanagan, associate director of the Hauenstein Center and a member of the Michigan Abraham Lincoln Bicentennial Committee, gave a talk at the Hauenstein Center's Lincoln Bicentennial Lecture Series. The Center's series was part of the annual conference of the Michigan Council for the Social Studies.
"Three Heroic Journeys: Abraham Lincoln and the Power of Myth"
Abraham Lincoln’s rise from depression and poverty to battle the slave power parallels the path of mythic heroes, from ancient and medieval literature through modern science fiction. Flanagan explores this phenomenon, its roots, and its implications.
"Three Heroic Journeys: Abraham Lincoln and the Power of Myth"
Abraham Lincoln’s rise from depression and poverty to battle the slave power parallels the path of mythic heroes, from ancient and medieval literature through modern science fiction. Flanagan explores this phenomenon, its roots, and its implications.
8 June 2009 10:41
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Paranormal, Spirituality & Metaphysics
Kind of hard to think where we would be whit out hippies & creative thinking that came out from their communities8 June 2009 09:22
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies Fans
Kind of hard to think where we would be whit out hippies & creative thinking that came out from their communities8 June 2009 09:22
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Humanity & Earth Shift
Kind of hard to think where we would be whit out hippies & creative thinking that came out from their communities8 June 2009 09:22
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Kind of hard to think where we would be whit out hippies & creative thinking that came out from their communities
8 June 2009 09:22
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Paranormal, Spirituality & Metaphysics
Romik Kimor: i also posted it on my http://www.facebook.com/pages/Erowidorg-The-Vaults-of-Erowid/65132480108 page
- in future u are also wellcome'd to post or upload similar videos to there:)6 June 2009 15:50
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies Fans
Romik Kimor: i also posted it on my http://www.facebook.com/pages/Erowidorg-The-Vaults-of-Erowid/65132480108 page
- in future u are also wellcome'd to post or upload similar videos to there:)6 June 2009 15:50
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Humanity & Earth Shift
Romik Kimor: i also posted it on my http://www.facebook.com/pages/Erowidorg-The-Vaults-of-Erowid/65132480108 page
- in future u are also wellcome'd to post or upload similar videos to there:)6 June 2009 15:50
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Romik Kimor: i also posted it on my http://www.facebook.com/pages/Erowidorg-The-Vaults-of-Erowid/65132480108 page
- in future u are also wellcome'd to post or upload similar videos to there:)
- in future u are also wellcome'd to post or upload similar videos to there:)
6 June 2009 15:50
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Paranormal, Spirituality & Metaphysics
I made based on gov OWN info list of drugs and how harmful what is what http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75200#17 (look the third list whit kill % )6 June 2009 15:45
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies Fans
I made based on gov OWN info list of drugs and how harmful what is what http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75200#17 (look the third list whit kill % )6 June 2009 15:45
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
I made based on gov OWN info list of drugs and how harmful what is what http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75200#17 (look the third list whit kill % )
6 June 2009 15:45
Margus Meigo commented on Alex Trantanella's post.
Group: Estonia
I lived in USA pacific aria before, now back to in Estonia, but i have many cousins living in USA :)
U can also post this message if u want under this page:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tallinn-Estonia/Estonia/134856020465 June 2009 15:12
Margus Meigo commented on Jonas Tarm's link.
Be kind and add Estonia page link to your invitation page or else this post might be labeled as spam :)
5 June 2009 12:05
Margus Meigo commented on Maria Belovas's post.
Good page :)
4 June 2009 19:41
Margus Meigo commented on Ornella Jõgi's post.
pole paha :)
4 June 2009 13:35
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
thatsin öelda, et e-valimiste viimane päev :)
4 June 2009 00:59
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Sepp's post.
astmeline tulumaks on täiesti ebanormaalne, sorry - it is :)
2 June 2009 15:48
Margus Meigo commented on Monika Eklund's post.
Internet ühendab :)
1 June 2009 00:44
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Sepp's post.
Kuid tihtipeale ju vingutakse alati ka teisepoole õigete valikute kallal ilma, ise paremat valikut välja pakkumatta - kuid see on poliitika ning täiesti arusaadav :)
1 June 2009 00:43
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Sepp's post.
Endiselt on täiesti loogiline sellel raskel ajal kõvasti millioneid säästa ujulate arvelt. See ei maksa midagi ekstra koolile kas võimlas istutakse või mängitakse korvpalli (ja neid spordialasi pea alati aint mängitakse mitte ei õpetata, ma 4 korda kooli vahetanud ja tean omast käest) ujulatega aga kulutused väga suured. Iga normaalne lapse vanem saab ise oma elus leida need 24 tundi oma lapse ujuma õpetamiseks - muidugi OLEKS vahva kui seda ka riik teeks kuid see peaks olema vabatahtlik ja sel ajal kui raha on selleks riigil.
See pealkiri "las lapsed upuvad" on nii väär kui olla saab, ENAMUS uppumissurmad eestis on täiskasvanute poolt või inimeste poolt kes kukkusid läbi jää - sellel pole midagi pistmist sellega kas nad koolis said ujumis tunnid või mitte. - kuid te juba teate vist seda isegi :)
(ärge seda isiklikult võtke)
See pealkiri "las lapsed upuvad" on nii väär kui olla saab, ENAMUS uppumissurmad eestis on täiskasvanute poolt või inimeste poolt kes kukkusid läbi jää - sellel pole midagi pistmist sellega kas nad koolis said ujumis tunnid või mitte. - kuid te juba teate vist seda isegi :)
(ärge seda isiklikult võtke)
1 June 2009 00:37
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Sepp's photo.
wau, hämmastav :)
31 May 2009 23:41
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Sepp's post.
Ma mõtlen täpselt seda sama, et poliitikud ei maksa oma vigade eest kui kõiki neid korruptsiooni & kriminaalsete elementidega lugusi loen mis seotud tihedamini mõne kindla erakonnaga. Või noh - samas need tegelt pole ju vead vaid teadlikud sammud, vigasi tehakse siis kui julgetakse/riskitakse samm astuda millegi parandamiseks ainult populistlike slooganite asemel. Alati lihtsalt ei kuku välja... :)
31 May 2009 14:25
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Sepp's post.
See füüsika näide oli sul loomulikult iroonia kuid samas ma kujutan ette, et enamuste nede ujulate töös hoidmine maksab ikka päris korraliku kopika. See pole lihtsalt, et mingi suur kauss kus vesi sisse lastakse ja las sulberdavad seal. Ujulad on ikkagi koolide lukksus - samas kui iseseisev ujula nagunii olemas kuskil on, siis võiks seal muidugi õpilastega käia - kindlasti ujula annab ka soodustust tervele klassile kuid ainult kooli pärast tervet ujulat töös hoida siin rasketel aegadel on laristamine - enamustes koolides ju ei ole ujulaid.
Muide füüsika tunni jaoks ei lähe vaja ka eraldi maja ning meeletuid kulutusi, füüsikat õpetatakse IGAS koolis, ujumist ainult nedes kellel see privileeg on - seega kindlasti ei saa sellist näidet tuua.
Kas pealegi vanemate ülesanne poleks õpetada (või korraldada keegi kes õpetab) last potil käima, jalgrattaga sõitma & ujuma?
Muide füüsika tunni jaoks ei lähe vaja ka eraldi maja ning meeletuid kulutusi, füüsikat õpetatakse IGAS koolis, ujumist ainult nedes kellel see privileeg on - seega kindlasti ei saa sellist näidet tuua.
Kas pealegi vanemate ülesanne poleks õpetada (või korraldada keegi kes õpetab) last potil käima, jalgrattaga sõitma & ujuma?
31 May 2009 14:18
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Sepp's post.
- ahjaa, ma pole ära ka uppunud seni veel:)
31 May 2009 14:01
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Sepp's post.
Ma pole siimaani ujuma õppinud kuna keegi meie koolides seda ei õpetanud :p
31 May 2009 14:00
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Sepp's photo.
kui kaua aega tagasi see pilt tehtud on? :)
31 May 2009 13:54
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's post.
Tänud :))
Ma usun ka, et näeme :))
Ma usun ka, et näeme :))
25 May 2009 20:03
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
yep i just noticed that you do it well :)
25 May 2009 19:46
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
Thank you :)))
17 May 2009 02:23
Margus Meigo commented on Yoanna Sayili's post.
Thank u :))
How u guys doing?
How u guys doing?
17 May 2009 02:19
Margus Meigo commented on Carlos Jorge Ferreira's post.
thank you :)
17 May 2009 02:19
Margus Meigo commented on Ana Groudeva's post.
thank you :)
17 May 2009 02:19
Margus Meigo commented on Muhaimin Sohud's post.
thank you!
17 May 2009 02:19
Margus Meigo commented on Daya D'Sa's post.
Thank You!
17 May 2009 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on Evelyn Sepp's post.
Äitäh :)
17 May 2009 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on Anna Devyatykh's post.
Thank u so much Anna :)
17 May 2009 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on Daya D'Sa's note.
thank you : )
15 May 2009 03:29
Margus Meigo commented on Anneli Peterson's post.
nu sa pole ju märkinud ennast kuskilt otsast seal kutse peal:p
14 May 2009 12:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Sore there might be as grazy people in Estonia but no one knows them, they are not recognized as great thinkers. They are not given access to secret government archives and for sore they are not greeted, recognized and respected by higher class and by important government and military personnel.
He himself was not only one who told that putin finally started to full fill the key points of hes teaching what he talked about in hes books (one main one i mentioned before is over 900 pages long - not meant to be for ordinary folks). He is well connected, really intelligent and knows what hes talking about in most part - so i would not just call him some freak, he IS important :)
Just google hes gooks and himself, u will see - the facts are everywhere, some smaller some bigger ones :)
He himself was not only one who told that putin finally started to full fill the key points of hes teaching what he talked about in hes books (one main one i mentioned before is over 900 pages long - not meant to be for ordinary folks). He is well connected, really intelligent and knows what hes talking about in most part - so i would not just call him some freak, he IS important :)
Just google hes gooks and himself, u will see - the facts are everywhere, some smaller some bigger ones :)
14 May 2009 02:41
Margus Meigo commented on Julia Devyatykh's post.
Ouds... i was thinking u guy's are sister or something :P
13 May 2009 19:56
Margus Meigo commented on Julia Devyatykh's post.
I only liked hockey when i was child,specially the russian one. i remember there was a lot of fights all the time and i was so disappointed to find out its not about fight.. xD
13 May 2009 12:20
Margus Meigo commented on George Jikia's link.
What was this heidi document u try to post here? :)
13 May 2009 01:42
Margus Meigo commented on Hanna Mursula's photo.
Is your ride still in service? :)
damn nice one i must say!
damn nice one i must say!
12 May 2009 17:07
Margus Meigo commented on Hanna Mursula's post.
Good to hear you're doing fine (well, fine is not "great" but still pretty good on these times).
I myself driving many different rides but in the end i reach the destination hopefully (one or other way) so to early to say right now how i am doing :)
I might be also working for Mmeedia/Bait from middle of jun to july when Edgar takes vacation so i might visit your workplace also.
I myself driving many different rides but in the end i reach the destination hopefully (one or other way) so to early to say right now how i am doing :)
I might be also working for Mmeedia/Bait from middle of jun to july when Edgar takes vacation so i might visit your workplace also.
12 May 2009 16:56
Margus Meigo commented on Phil Alt's post.
i will, say hello to everyone over there : ))
11 May 2009 04:08
Margus Meigo commented on Phil Alt's post.
well, who is still using outdated Altavista translator? It's all about translate.google.com now, it's the only working translation engine these days and it gos better by every day because its integrated inside world biggest search motor - google and everyone can make it better day by day . Estonia is new there (just 4-5 moths) so estonia translation is not the best one (actually it can be really bad sometimes because estonia language structure is one of the hardest). But it will blow out all of the other translation engines when it comes to common language. I noticed that the plain text translation actually can be more bad sometimes then web translation - so it seems they are not 1:1 sync'd - but they have intelligent engine so soon i am fluent in any language (in internet :P...).
My invitation have to much slang and sarcasm for translation so it comes out not so good in english lol :D
(its about my birthday party, i was to lazy to pick & choose people so i send it to everyone)
My invitation have to much slang and sarcasm for translation so it comes out not so good in english lol :D
(its about my birthday party, i was to lazy to pick & choose people so i send it to everyone)
11 May 2009 02:11
Margus Meigo commented on Anni Oja's post.
Facebooki tõlge suhteliselt kahtlaselt kõlab: "Anni Oja staatus sai ka temalt endalt kommentaari"
10 May 2009 16:56
Margus Meigo commented on Alto San's post.
that's what we living for :)
10 May 2009 12:03
Margus Meigo commented on Fahmi King King's post.
well, just trying to keep up whit new friends that facebook recommended :D
10 May 2009 12:01
Margus Meigo commented on Anni Oja's post.
Mida soome tegema lähed, et nii suurte kottidega reisid (nagu pildil)?
Ma tavaliselt võtan ID & panga kaardi kaasa ainult. ööbimiseks kasutan CS'i ;)
Ma tavaliselt võtan ID & panga kaardi kaasa ainult. ööbimiseks kasutan CS'i ;)
10 May 2009 11:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
have a bug free dreams :P
10 May 2009 03:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
well debugging java is something that needs some powers i do not posses :P
Take one beer and relax & then start fresh :)
Take one beer and relax & then start fresh :)
10 May 2009 03:01
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
in shout Africa :)
5 May 2009 23:58
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Misiganes fantaasia Sind rahuldab Annake :P
Tule tee paberi peal, isiklikult mulle sama test - mis iganes kohas ja ajal ning vaata mis tulemus tuleb :)
Ma alati avalikustan testides AINULT oma esimese tulemuse ning mitu korda teen ma testi hobi korras ainult siis kui tunnen, et test väga metsas on - kui nendel testidel ei tundunud midagi viga olevat...
Tule tee paberi peal, isiklikult mulle sama test - mis iganes kohas ja ajal ning vaata mis tulemus tuleb :)
Ma alati avalikustan testides AINULT oma esimese tulemuse ning mitu korda teen ma testi hobi korras ainult siis kui tunnen, et test väga metsas on - kui nendel testidel ei tundunud midagi viga olevat...
4 May 2009 17:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
mhmh,esimest korda testi tehes juba tõestasite kui hästi te teate, muhahaha :P:P
30 April 2009 21:34
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Anna, see kui sa arvad, et ma selle yle valetaks juba näitab sinu teadmisi mu suhtes & sinu suhtes Krista olen lihtsalt pettunud : )
30 April 2009 21:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Kamoon Anna, Sina nüüd oled eriti spetsjalist seda teadma :D:D
30 April 2009 21:28
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
IRL'is :P
30 April 2009 21:14
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Sul on reaalsusega probleeme kullake :P
30 April 2009 21:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nu jällegi tõestus ju kui mööda panid, sest mina tegin enda järgi mehe testi, hahahha owned! :D
30 April 2009 21:10
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
aga diil oli ju, et pidid tunnistama, khmm....
.... "Mehe skoon 0% & naise skoor 50%" :D khmmm..
.... "Mehe skoon 0% & naise skoor 50%" :D khmmm..
30 April 2009 21:08
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
looda sa, lihtsalt tunnista! :D
30 April 2009 21:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
yeah, i know :D
well actually it's letting junkies know that its not allowed to piss outside (restroom costs 1-2 EEK) but still, it just looks so uncivilized and stupid :D
well actually it's letting junkies know that its not allowed to piss outside (restroom costs 1-2 EEK) but still, it just looks so uncivilized and stupid :D
27 April 2009 20:13
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
väimalik, ma alles 8 st hommikul lähen magama ka enamasti :D
26 March 2009 17:42
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Decriminalize All Psychedelics. Now!
Andriy Svichkar, true but it's not considered now way to be as knowledgeable as the other ones, also folklore talks more about fly for many reasons.
In America long before it was invaded by Americans they used almost only the "magic mushroom" and in africa they did and do still the drinks what can be sayd out whit 3 letters : DMT.
fly-agaric must be prepared right way and SO many types of fly-agaric are not the same and is way more poisones then useful.
Also most buddist are against using any kind of psychotropic substance (it should be one of the req to be buddist) - if they are masters their mind and body can produce most of the chemicals they need (also dmt etc). I still believe some do use, bit its NO way comparable to Hindu
I would also want to add about Hindu, yes they use fly but fly-agaric is not growing top of gow shit but psilocybin does... gow is holy for then u know..
"holy shit" would say some xD14 March 2009 09:23
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Paranormal, Spirituality & Metaphysics
Andriy Svichkar, true but it's not considered now way to be as knowledgeable as the other ones, also folklore talks more about fly for many reasons.
In America long before it was invaded by Americans they used almost only the "magic mushroom" and in africa they did and do still the drinks what can be sayd out whit 3 letters : DMT.
fly-agaric must be prepared right way and SO many types of fly-agaric are not the same and is way more poisones then useful.
Also most buddist are against using any kind of psychotropic substance (it should be one of the req to be buddist) - if they are masters their mind and body can produce most of the chemicals they need (also dmt etc). I still believe some do use, bit its NO way comparable to Hindu
I would also want to add about Hindu, yes they use fly but fly-agaric is not growing top of gow shit but psilocybin does... gow is holy for then u know..
"holy shit" would say some xD14 March 2009 09:23
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies Fans
Andriy Svichkar, true but it's not considered now way to be as knowledgeable as the other ones, also folklore talks more about fly for many reasons.
In America long before it was invaded by Americans they used almost only the "magic mushroom" and in africa they did and do still the drinks what can be sayd out whit 3 letters : DMT.
fly-agaric must be prepared right way and SO many types of fly-agaric are not the same and is way more poisones then useful.
Also most buddist are against using any kind of psychotropic substance (it should be one of the req to be buddist) - if they are masters their mind and body can produce most of the chemicals they need (also dmt etc). I still believe some do use, bit its NO way comparable to Hindu
I would also want to add about Hindu, yes they use fly but fly-agaric is not growing top of gow shit but psilocybin does... gow is holy for then u know..
"holy shit" would say some xD14 March 2009 09:23
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Humanity & Earth Shift
Andriy Svichkar, true but it's not considered now way to be as knowledgeable as the other ones, also folklore talks more about fly for many reasons.
In America long before it was invaded by Americans they used almost only the "magic mushroom" and in africa they did and do still the drinks what can be sayd out whit 3 letters : DMT.
fly-agaric must be prepared right way and SO many types of fly-agaric are not the same and is way more poisones then useful.
Also most buddist are against using any kind of psychotropic substance (it should be one of the req to be buddist) - if they are masters their mind and body can produce most of the chemicals they need (also dmt etc). I still believe some do use, bit its NO way comparable to Hindu
I would also want to add about Hindu, yes they use fly but fly-agaric is not growing top of gow shit but psilocybin does... gow is holy for then u know..
"holy shit" would say some xD14 March 2009 09:23
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
Andriy Svichkar, true but it's not considered now way to be as knowledgeable as the other ones, also folklore talks more about fly for many reasons.
In America long before it was invaded by Americans they used almost only the "magic mushroom" and in africa they did and do still the drinks what can be sayd out whit 3 letters : DMT.
fly-agaric must be prepared right way and SO many types of fly-agaric are not the same and is way more poisones then useful.
Also most buddist are against using any kind of psychotropic substance (it should be one of the req to be buddist) - if they are masters their mind and body can produce most of the chemicals they need (also dmt etc). I still believe some do use, bit its NO way comparable to Hindu
I would also want to add about Hindu, yes they use fly but fly-agaric is not growing top of gow shit but psilocybin does... gow is holy for then u know..
"holy shit" would say some xD
In America long before it was invaded by Americans they used almost only the "magic mushroom" and in africa they did and do still the drinks what can be sayd out whit 3 letters : DMT.
fly-agaric must be prepared right way and SO many types of fly-agaric are not the same and is way more poisones then useful.
Also most buddist are against using any kind of psychotropic substance (it should be one of the req to be buddist) - if they are masters their mind and body can produce most of the chemicals they need (also dmt etc). I still believe some do use, bit its NO way comparable to Hindu
I would also want to add about Hindu, yes they use fly but fly-agaric is not growing top of gow shit but psilocybin does... gow is holy for then u know..
"holy shit" would say some xD
14 March 2009 09:23
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Decriminalize All Psychedelics. Now!
I hope people do not confuse this mushroom whit the real knowledge mushrooms..
The fly-agaric (Amanita muscaria) contains the active principle muscimol, which is both chemically and symptomatically unrelated to psilocybin and psilocin.13 March 2009 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Paranormal, Spirituality & Metaphysics
I hope people do not confuse this mushroom whit the real knowledge mushrooms..
The fly-agaric (Amanita muscaria) contains the active principle muscimol, which is both chemically and symptomatically unrelated to psilocybin and psilocin.13 March 2009 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Humanity & Earth Shift
I hope people do not confuse this mushroom whit the real knowledge mushrooms..
The fly-agaric (Amanita muscaria) contains the active principle muscimol, which is both chemically and symptomatically unrelated to psilocybin and psilocin.13 March 2009 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies Fans
I hope people do not confuse this mushroom whit the real knowledge mushrooms..
The fly-agaric (Amanita muscaria) contains the active principle muscimol, which is both chemically and symptomatically unrelated to psilocybin and psilocin.13 March 2009 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
I hope people do not confuse this mushroom whit the real knowledge mushrooms..
The fly-agaric (Amanita muscaria) contains the active principle muscimol, which is both chemically and symptomatically unrelated to psilocybin and psilocin.
The fly-agaric (Amanita muscaria) contains the active principle muscimol, which is both chemically and symptomatically unrelated to psilocybin and psilocin.
13 March 2009 19:33
Margus Meigo commented on Miku Udora's post.
Group: Estonian Videos and Music
sad but WAY more sad(scary) is the alternative - these who say they should be there instead putin - most of them hate putin because putin is not enough "stalin" & is "to soft". It's their spokesman words "Russia needs someone like Stalin"
it's sad... but it's true and for some reason people do not talk about this. 25 February 2009 19:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
yep, this is true - but i thinksadly, it's to much to understand for most people, so better if they go whit "petting" first ...and lets hope the mind will fallow... :)
btw: do you have had any bad ones? :) I had one, first one... like 8 years ago :P
btw: do you have had any bad ones? :) I had one, first one... like 8 years ago :P
27 December 2008 18:33
Margus Meigo commented on Fernando Paternostro's link.
You can also take look at these links:
http://about.ask.com/en/docs/iq/iq.shtml
http://buzz.yahoo.com/
http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/searchspy/
http://50.lycos.com/
http://google.com/trends
http://about.ask.com/en/docs/iq/iq.shtml
http://buzz.yahoo.com/
http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/searchspy/
http://50.lycos.com/
http://google.com/trends
26 December 2008 07:03
Margus Meigo commented on Fernando Paternostro's link.
"Blackwater is one of five companies picked by the Department of Defense Counter-Narcotics Technology Program Office in a five-year contract for equipment, material and services in support of counter-narcotics activities. The contract is worth up to $15 billion."
nice...
nice...
26 December 2008 06:48
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's link.
I would love to live in country side if you know what i mean ... :)
26 December 2008 01:16
Margus Meigo commented on Psychedelic Adventure's video.
really good! :)
25 December 2008 15:38
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Paranormal, Spirituality & Metaphysics
thank you so much for adding this video, i was looking for this :)25 December 2008 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies Fans
thank you so much for adding this video, i was looking for this :)25 December 2008 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's post.
Group: Humanity & Earth Shift
thank you so much for adding this video, i was looking for this :)25 December 2008 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on Romik Kimor's video.
thank you so much for adding this video, i was looking for this :)
25 December 2008 15:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
well said man :)
23 December 2008 06:22
Margus Meigo commented on Classic Nkosi's post.
yeah, scared of what? :))
18 December 2008 17:02
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
really fucked :( just makes me angry & mad same time thinking about how stupid can people be
1 December 2008 22:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nyyd peaaegu sirge juba:P
17 November 2008 01:24
Margus Meigo commented on Classic Nkosi's photo.
heey man!
cool pic :P
cool pic :P
13 November 2008 13:57
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
All this was for one Tard who complained about weed usage and that we should shoot anyone who uses cannabis.
You know who you are, U Tard :)
You know who you are, U Tard :)
23 September 2008 03:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
" 20 million Americans have smoked marijuana in the past year, and 80 - 100 million have smoked it at some point in their lives. For the gateway theory to be true we would see most of these people moving onto harder drugs, but there isn't a SINGLE piece of evidence to support this theory.In fact, studies have shown that most people start using alcohol and tobacco before using any other drug"
"A new technology in the form of "vaporizers" is enabling people to consume the resin containing THC through heating it short of burning the plant matter to eliminate harms that come with smoking material..."
"Unlike alcohol intoxication, people who feel the effect of cannabis are aware of that fact and tend to moderate their behavior accordingly...not driving etc..."
http://pr.cannazine.co.uk/content/view/647/27/
(note: reading SMS while driving is over 3 TIMES more dangerous then cannabis high)
http://cannazine.co.uk/cannabis-news/united-kingdom/cannabis-alcohol-uk-needs-to-face-facts.html
"A new technology in the form of "vaporizers" is enabling people to consume the resin containing THC through heating it short of burning the plant matter to eliminate harms that come with smoking material..."
"Unlike alcohol intoxication, people who feel the effect of cannabis are aware of that fact and tend to moderate their behavior accordingly...not driving etc..."
http://pr.cannazine.co.uk/content/view/647/27/
(note: reading SMS while driving is over 3 TIMES more dangerous then cannabis high)
http://cannazine.co.uk/cannabis-news/united-kingdom/cannabis-alcohol-uk-needs-to-face-facts.html
23 September 2008 03:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Some extra reading: http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/06/04/05/12-dangerous-food-additives-the-dirty-dozen-food-additives-you-really-need-to-be-aware-of.htm
Annual Causes of Death in the United States
Tobacco 435,0001
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,0001
Alcohol 85,000
Microbial Agents 75,000
Toxic Agents 55,000
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
Suicide 30,622
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000
Homicide 20,308
Sexual Behaviors 20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,0001,
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600
Marijuana 0
(Aver. 1982-1998): According to Canadian researchers, approx. 32,000 hospitalized patients (and up to 106,000) in the USA die each year because of adverse reactions to their prescribed medications
Animal testing has found that in order to ingest a lethal amount of marijuana you would need to consume 5,000 to 40,000 times the amount needed to "get you high"
Annual Causes of Death in the United States
Tobacco 435,0001
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,0001
Alcohol 85,000
Microbial Agents 75,000
Toxic Agents 55,000
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
Suicide 30,622
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000
Homicide 20,308
Sexual Behaviors 20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,0001,
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600
Marijuana 0
(Aver. 1982-1998): According to Canadian researchers, approx. 32,000 hospitalized patients (and up to 106,000) in the USA die each year because of adverse reactions to their prescribed medications
Animal testing has found that in order to ingest a lethal amount of marijuana you would need to consume 5,000 to 40,000 times the amount needed to "get you high"
23 September 2008 02:33
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
Just by one example HOW stupid this gov plan to protect people is...
- eating around one hotdog per day (or other processed meat product whit sodium nitrite - like almost all processed meats: breakfast sausage,hot dogs,jerkies,bacon,lunch meat,meats in canned soup products etc) is increasing risk of brain cancer by 300% ("just" 60-70% increase of risk pancreatic cancer if you eat any of this crap regularly & leukemia gos up to 700%).
& this are just 2 couses of many - Have you hear gov banning hotdogs & other crap? Or just banning to usage of nitrite?
I do not think so
Okey, they try to do it on 70's in USA but then no need to guess what industry close down this action..
There are so many other toxins in our drinks and foods what DIRECTLY are related to osteoporosis, cancer, depression, diabetes, heart disease, Alzheimer's disease, and even behavioral disorders... but no lets ban the weed because it's source of all evil and biggest killer...
- eating around one hotdog per day (or other processed meat product whit sodium nitrite - like almost all processed meats: breakfast sausage,hot dogs,jerkies,bacon,lunch meat,meats in canned soup products etc) is increasing risk of brain cancer by 300% ("just" 60-70% increase of risk pancreatic cancer if you eat any of this crap regularly & leukemia gos up to 700%).
& this are just 2 couses of many - Have you hear gov banning hotdogs & other crap? Or just banning to usage of nitrite?
I do not think so
Okey, they try to do it on 70's in USA but then no need to guess what industry close down this action..
There are so many other toxins in our drinks and foods what DIRECTLY are related to osteoporosis, cancer, depression, diabetes, heart disease, Alzheimer's disease, and even behavioral disorders... but no lets ban the weed because it's source of all evil and biggest killer...
23 September 2008 02:22
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
(K)
22 September 2008 00:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
... :P
21 September 2008 21:14
Margus Meigo commented on Marcus Kolga's link.
Tublim on raske olla :)
14 September 2008 18:37
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ei sa eip rikkunud midagi, sel pole midagi Sinuga pistmist, ära muretse : )
tnx, et tulid - et lihtsalt tagasi sõita tallinasse, huggs
tnx, et tulid - et lihtsalt tagasi sõita tallinasse, huggs
31 August 2008 12:04
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
ning reiv oli ka täielik pask võrreldes sellega mis ta olema peax, power raadio otse ülekanne piletite reklaamiks, ei miskit rohkemat
31 August 2008 09:55
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
nu ju ma ple lihtsalt keegi kes olema peaks :)
31 August 2008 09:47
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
well ja lisax kõigele ei kohtu ma sellega kellega koos ravel olin ka enam, just gos better every day....
31 August 2008 01:05
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
its ok, dont worry :*
27 August 2008 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
well... still..
27 August 2008 02:18
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EVS Youth Plus Awarenes
& let's tag everyone here also :))
& if some of them are not in facebook - let's tag & invite :P26 August 2008 03:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
& let's tag everyone here also :))
& if some of them are not in facebook - let's tag & invite :P
& if some of them are not in facebook - let's tag & invite :P
26 August 2008 03:09
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: EVS Youth Plus Awarenes
Let's tag everyone here :))26 August 2008 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Let's tag everyone here :))
26 August 2008 03:07
Margus Meigo commented on Liisi Vanaselja's photo.
no its ok, im also thinking lately a lot about
myself
myself
17 August 2008 07:04
Margus Meigo commented on Liisi Vanaselja's photo.
im really on ur mind all the time Liina hahah :D
17 August 2008 06:40
Margus Meigo commented on Иван Дубянский's post.
Group: Stop fighting in Georgia
http://uudised.err.ee/external/iframeplayer/uudised_iframe.php?playmode=startvideo&lng=2&vid=15669 something neutral from 2 sides, 17 August 2008 06:00
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: STOP the Russian aggression against Georgia, Ukraine and its neighbours!
& just for these who like to say that "these americans do not know anything" take look at their bio:
Speaker biographies
Leon Aron is a resident scholar and director of Russian studies at AEI. Mr. Aron was born in Moscow and came to the United States as a refugee from the Soviet Union in June 1978. He has taught at Georgetown University and has contributed numerous articles on Russian affairs to newspapers and magazines, including the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and The New Republic. Mr. Aron also writes Russian Outlook, AEI’s quarterly essay on economic, political, social, and cultural aspects of Russia’s post-Soviet transition. He is a frequent guest of television and radio talk shows and has been interviewed on Sixty Minutes, The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, and NPR’s All Things Considered and Talk of the Nation, among others. Mr. Aron is the author of the first full-length scholarly biography of Boris Yeltsin, Yeltsin: A Revolutionary Life (St. Martin’s Press, 2000), and Russia’s Revolution: Essays 1989–2006 (AEI Press, 2007). He is at work on a book about the ideas and ideals that inspired and shaped the latest Russian revolution (1987–91), to be published by Yale University Press.
Thomas Donnelly is a resident fellow in defense and security policy studies at AEI. He is the author, with Frederick W. Kagan, of Ground Truth: The Future of U.S. Land Power (AEI Press, May 2008); the coeditor, with Gary J. Schmitt, of Of Men and Materiel: The Crisis in Military Resources (AEI Press, 2007); and the author of The Military We Need (AEI Press, 2005), Operation Iraqi Freedom: A Strategic Assessment (AEI Press, 2004), and several other books. From 1995 to 1999, he was policy group director and a professional staff member for the House Armed Services Committee. Mr. Donnelly also served as a member of the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission. He is a former editor of Armed Forces Journal, Army Times, and Defense News.
Frederick W. Kagan is a resident scholar in defense and security policy studies at AEI. His most recent book is Ground Truth: The Future of U.S. Land Power (AEI Press, May 2008), coauthored with Thomas Donnelly. Previously an associate professor of military history at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, he is the author of Finding the Target: The Transformation of American Military Policy (Encounter, 2006) and The End of the Old Order: Napoleon and Europe, 1801–1805 (Da Capo, 2006) and coauthor of While America Sleeps: Self-Delusion, Military Weakness, and the Threat to Peace Today (St. Martin’s Press, 2000). A contributing editor at The Weekly Standard, Mr. Kagan has also written numerous articles on defense and foreign policy issues for Foreign Affairs, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, Policy Review, Commentary, Parameters, and other periodicals.
Lt. Col. Ralph Peters (U.S. Army, retired) is a writer, strategist, and commentator. He is the author of 23 books and more than six hundred columns, articles, and essays. He served in the U.S. Army for twenty-two years, first as an enlisted man, then as an officer, retiring shortly after his promotion to lieutenant colonel in order to write with greater freedom. As a soldier, Lt. Col. Peters served in infantry and military intelligence units before becoming a foreign area officer specializing in Russia and its surrounding states. Special assignments took him to Southeast and Central Asia, the Caucasus, the Kremlin, the Andean Ridge, and the southwest border of the United States. In addition to active-duty assignments in the Pentagon and the Executive Office of the President, Lt. Col. Peters served and lived in Europe for a total of ten years. He has published a number of books on strategy and military affairs, including Wars Of Blood And Faith (Stackpole, 2007), Never Quit The Fight (Stackpole, 2006), New Glory: Expanding America’s Global Supremacy (Sentinel, 2005), Beyond Terror (Stackpole, 2004), Beyond Baghdad (Stackpole, 2003), and Fighting for the Future (Stackpole, 2002). Lt. Col. Peters’s latest book, Looking For Trouble (Stackpole, 2008), is a memoir.
What a lot of people actually do not notice, is russian extreme right wing support - and also other fascist support from USA (Preston Wiginton for starters) to UK to other EU countries - and u read it right, support for Russia.
Russian website stopgeorgia.ru (in germany) who's mirror site had nameserver from russian hosting company nkvd.su ( everyone knows what for NKVD stands for and SU domain right?) what was set up for recruiting new skript kiddies & hackers againstGeorgia for powers like RBN (russian business network - everyone knows this network right?). Lets not forget ofcourse Nashi, DPNI (whs website was before in VKPB server - oh.. and u can wikipedia about this also :P)... well - all of them work together against Georgia.. how messed up is that (i do not start to mention fsb or FAPSI here). But almoust all of them have relationship to nazis & other fashist groups & ru gov - i hope you are not surprised.
I will upload one nice page about it to my server later :)15 August 2008 00:30
Margus Meigo commented on his own post.
Group: STOP the Russian aggression against Georgia, Ukraine and its neighbours!
Great article with some great points.
Strutting Russia is heading for a fall
Richard Beeston ( foreign editor of The Times )
Opinion is hardening against the Kremlin. For all its bluster, it is weak and vulnerable
Richard Beeston
Rarely have Russians had such cause to celebrate their hero. One minute Vladimir Putin was in Beijing mixing with Russian athletes on the opening day of the Olympics. Moments later he reappeared in the Caucasus, sleeves rolled up and directing a victorious counter-attack against his arch-rival Mikhail Saakashvili, the Georgian President. Fleeing refugees and wounded civilians were comforted. Generals saluted smartly as they were sent off to battle. No one was left in any doubt that Mr Putin, rather than the absent President Medvedev, was still firmly in charge of the country.
In the space of only five days the Russian Prime Minister succeeded not only in smashing the Georgian Army but also teaching all those in the “near abroad”, as Russia refers to its neighbours in the former Soviet empire, a painful lesson about challenging Moscow in its own backyard.
The decisive action was in sharp contrast to the response in the West. The war in Georgia exposed deep divisions in the transatlantic alliance and revealed the impotence of the Bush Administration in protecting its closest friend in the region.
Respect is something Mr Putin and many of his countrymen believe they lost when the Soviet Union broke apart 17 years ago. They may now feel that over the past few days some of that loss has been restored.
For Russians sunning themselves on the Mediterranean or enjoying the long summer evenings at their dachas in the countryside, this is the plausible narrative faithfully repeated by the state-controlled media.
"Russia may have smashed its tiny neighbour but victory will come at a heavy price. The war will reduce rather than increase Russia's stature abroad, where the Kremlin faces growing isolation."
Unfortunately, the conclusions they draw are completely wrong. Russia may have smashed its tiny neighbour but victory will come at a heavy price. The war will reduce rather than increase Russia's stature abroad, where the Kremlin faces growing isolation.
Since the emergence of the modern Russian state during the Yeltsin years in the 1990s, the country has been regarded as chaotic and corrupt but broadly peaceful and certainly no serious threat. Back in 2003 Condoleezza Rice, the Russophile US Secretary of State, famously advised President Bush to “forgive” Russia for its stand against the Iraq war, while France was punished and Germany ignored.
To judge by the language of both US presidential candidates responding to the Georgian war, forgiveness is no longer an option. Democrat or Republican will take a much harder line towards Russia over its aggressive foreign posture, its increasingly autocratic Government and the inescapable conclusion that Mr Putin is determined to remain in power indefinitely.
"The events in the Caucasus will only serve to harden opinion against Russia at Nato and in the EU."
The Europeans may seem divided, but behind the bland statements calling on both sides to stop the recent fighting something significant has happened. Six European leaders, five of them from the former Soviet bloc, chose to stand side by side with Mr Saakashvili yesterday as he struggled to remain in power. The events in the Caucasus will only serve to harden opinion against Russia at Nato and in the EU.
The mini-war in Georgia may have surprised some Europeans, but it was expected weeks ago by British Intelligence. Thanks to the murder of Alexander Litvinenko, the ex-KGB officer who was poisoned in London by suspected Russian agents nearly two years ago, Britain has completely reassessed its relationship with Moscow. MI5, which reports that Russian agents in Britain are now back at Cold War levels, regards Russia as the third most serious threat to British security after terrorism and nuclear proliferation. Attempts to rehabilitate relations have faltered and the recent treatment of BP by its partners and the Russian authorities has only reinforced the view that Russia cannot be trusted.
Flush with billions from the sale of oil and gas, the Kremlin may calculate that it does not need allies in the West and would rather be respected and feared than befriended.
Anyone who has seen the Russian Army operating in the Caucasus knows that the military will need a generation to modernise.
That too would be a serious mistake. For all its big-power bluster, Russia is weak and vulnerable. Russian tanks and aircraft may have smashed the fledgeling Georgian Army with ease, but most of the weaponry was Cold War-era and many of the troops conscripts. Anyone who has seen the Russian Army operating in the Caucasus knows that the military will need a generation to modernise. Meanwhile America, and its main Nato allies, are decades ahead in military technology and combat experience.
Russia is also facing a severe demographic crisis. Its population is shrinking by 700,000 people a year. The UN estimates the population will fall below 100 million by 2050, down from around 146 million today.
As for the economy, it is booming thanks to natural resources that account for 70 per cent of the country's wealth. But the oil price is in a state of flux. Russia has failed to diversify. Should energy prices fall sharply, the economy could collapse, as it did a decade ago.
Mr Putin once described the collapse of the Soviet Union as the greatest tragedy of the 20th century. Trying to resurrect it could be the greatest folly of the 21st.15 August 2008 00:12
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
;)
1 August 2008 17:03
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
( i might be in usa trip around December starting point from Hawaii, if i make it to DC i will visit this one there for sore :P)
29 July 2008 02:24
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
nice :)
29 July 2008 02:03
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
me to :D
28 July 2008 00:31
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
yep, u 2 Angel ;)
21 July 2008 02:54
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
lol :D
1 July 2008 14:20
Margus Meigo commented on his own link.
LOL yeah Amir, G. bless Stalin & hes goodness :D :D
19 June 2008 15:24
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
U CAN NOT mention Hitler any way but commies bar & big commies advertisment is TOTALLY ok... history is a strange thing, uh?
30 May 2008 10:44
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
Swing Festival :D:D:D
30 May 2008 10:41
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
does this look gay a bit :D ?
30 May 2008 10:40
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
See vene turva läks väga närvi seal... :P
30 May 2008 10:39
Margus Meigo commented on his own photo.
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19 May 2008 23:04
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's photo.
this pic one of the best :)
9 May 2008 02:30
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's photo.
hahahahahahahaaa:D
8 May 2008 00:00
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's photo.
yeah babe! :D
6 May 2008 18:19
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's photo.
tag amir there also :P
6 May 2008 10:10
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
omg :D
13 April 2008 01:07
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
yeah, that's cute... nooot! :D
8 April 2008 18:17
Margus Meigo commented on Heleri Alles's photo.
looks like LanParty :D
4 April 2008 02:43
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
nice one :D
28 March 2008 23:07
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
great face Waffa, great! ;D;D
28 March 2008 23:04
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
lol @Adam face :D
27 March 2008 00:14
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
see saarema vodka un asjakohane seal
jiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! :D
jiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! :D
26 March 2008 15:43
Margus Meigo commented on Liina M. Sarapik's photo.
LMAO :D
26 March 2008 11:38
Margus Meigo commented on Kahoosier Hoosier's photo.
is that who i think it is?
10 March 2008 21:22